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How might we account for the strange melding of neuroticism and dishonesty that has gripped America’s thinking class since the ascent of Donald Trump as an epically reviled figurehead on our ship of state? It all seems to come down to shame and failure.
There is, for instance, the failure of America’s leading economic viziers to arrest the collapse of the middle class — and with it, the disintegration of families — that more than anything produced the 2016 election result. What is a bigger emergency: the destruction of all those towns, cities, and lives in flyover-land, or the S & P stock index going down twenty points?
The choice made by the “experts” the past ten years is obvious: pump the financial markets at all costs by using dishonest policy interventions which they are smart enough to know will eventually blow up the banking system. They did it to preserve their reputations long enough to retire out of their jobs. The trouble is that the damage is now so extreme that when the time comes for them to apologize it will not be enough. They will lose their freedom and perhaps their heads.
The neuroticism and dishonesty is exactly what turned two of this country’s most sacred and noble endeavors, higher education and medicine, into disgraceful rackets. Sunday night, CBS 60 Minutes covered both bases in their lead story about how the NYU medical school recently declared its program tuition-free. This great triumph was due to an enormous cash gift from one of the founders of the Home Depot company, billionaire Ken Langone. Nowhere in the broadcast did CBS raise the question as to how the cost of a degree became so outrageous in the first place. Or how Mr. Langone made his fortune by putting every local hardware store in America out of business, which enabled him to capture the annual incomes of ten thousand small business owners and their employees. NYU’s grand gesture is just a way to paper over the shame of the University executives’ role in the college loan racket that may destroy countless lives.
Neuroticism and shame is what drives identity politics with all its weird ritual persecutions and punishments. It was the thinking class that led the civil rights campaign of the 1960s. Here we are fifty years later with dozens of ruined cities, failed public school systems, and prisons stuffed with black men way out of proportion to their actual demographic in the general population (nationally 37 percent versus 13 percent). In California, it’s 29 percent while only 6 percent of the state’s male residents are African American. The favored narrative of the thinking class says that the high incarceration rate is due to unfair application of drug laws for relatively minor offenses, especially being caught holding weed.
Okay, marijuana has been legal in California for several years now. Has that altered the statistics? I guess we’ll find out soon. Is there another explanation? Perhaps disproportionate bad behavior of other kinds: assault, robbery, murder? Perhaps the result of government policies engineered by the thinking class to promote single-parent households with no fathers present for three generations now?
After all this time and all the evidence of how pernicious this condition is, why is there no debate about it? Why is the thinking class so dishonest about the most ruinous ingredient in everyday public schooling: bad behavior, violence, and constant classroom disruption. The thinking classes must be ashamed and appalled by all this, since it appears to contradict all the mighty efforts made to uplift the black underclass. And so what was the most notable response? The Obama Department of Education directed school districts to stop suspending and disciplining black kids who behaved badly because it looked bad, and that policy is still in place. How’s that working out?
The latest appeal among the thinking class to remedy these otherwise intractable and embarrassing problems is the panacea of reparations for the descendants of slaves. Of course, the money spent on social services the past half-century, if simply distributed as cash, would have made every African American a millionaire. Personally, I can’t imagine a worse way of ginning up racial animosity across America to the breaking point than these proposed reparations. We will surely hear more about this in the long slog to the 2020 elections, and it will only make the USA look more insane to the rest of the world.
The thinking class’s position on both legal and illegal immigration is possibly even more cynical — because they surely know how dishonest it is, even through the fog of self-deception. Last week California’s attorney general Xavier Becerra proposed that illegal immigration be decriminalized. Surprisingly, nobody laughed at this extraordinary exercise in casuistry. Meanwhile, the state slides into hopeless insolvency, squalor, and chaos — a reminder that people don’t necessary get what they expect, but rather what they deserve.
RussiaGate, of course, has been the most acute locus of neurotic dishonesty across this land the past two years. The primary information organs of the thinking class — The New York Times, The WashPo, CNN, MSNBC — have not only omitted to apologize for the dangerous hysteria they knowingly propagated, but they persist in supporting the matrix of fantasies at all costs in what must now be seen as a hopeless attempt to preserve their reputations and perhaps even their livelihoods. The repudiation of this nonsense by chief inquisitor Robert Mueller could not be more absolute, even if he was compelled by reality against his own wishes and instincts to do it. And now, what avenue will all this diseased animus of the thinking class go down in its destructive, shame-fueled frenzy to justify itself?
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“And now, what avenue will all this diseased animus of the thinking class go down in its destructive, shame-fueled frenzy to justify itself?”
I have a guess: print money to save the environment.
“Print money to save the environment” — LOL. On the one hand, if only it were that easy. On the other, don’t give the people in charge any ideas. That sounds like a suggestion they would like.
As for what you quoted from our host about “this diseased animus,” that reminds me that a lot of people were talking plague and ebola last week, including me. That inspired me to write more about disease this week, both about the 2018-2019 flu season and the measles outbreaks in the U.S. Not the illnesses our host is talking about today or what his readers where talking about last week, but diseases nonetheless.
Look up Candida Auris.
Scary, and being kept out of the news.
My wife already did yesterday and, wow, were the results scary! I then looked it up today and they were even worse! Talk about a pathogen that has become the hot newsworthy topic!
Yes, a really horrible fungus making its way around the world, and which antibiotics cannot destory.
Technical correction: antibiotics are not used for fungal infections. Antifungal agents are. Overuse of antibiotics jeads to resistance of bacteria, another problem completely. Fungal infections of significance in humans are rare, as they usually only affect someone who is very sick from something else and has a compromised immune system. Bacterial infections can occur in anyone, including healthy persons. Resistant bacteria are actually a much bigger threat to the general population, and their numbers are growing rapidly.
Thanks, NN, I just did. Crikey.
But rhys12, it hasn’t been kept out of the New York Times, so here you are:
nytimes.com/2019/04/06/health/drug-resistant-candida-auris.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&…
Among other points, admittedly extremely scary:
“Some scientists cite evidence that rampant use of fungicides on crops is contributing to the surge in drug-resistant fungi infecting humans.”
Homo sap does it again…
First they came for the antibiotics; then they came for the antifungals…
Time was, chicken was a treat for Sundays. Now it’s stuffed with gawd knows what so the poor little ****er can sometimes hardly walk on its little legs so we can have it any time we want. And for the price of a beer, if it’s really low end (chlorinated so you can raise it in sardine fashion and it ends up pecked bald, then play football with it during the factory break, spray it in Mr Muscle and no-one will ever know when it’s covered in shite and served in a cardboard bucket with chips. Sorry, fries.
Progress eh…
There used to be a sitcom here when I was a kid, set in a garment factory and called ‘Never mind the quality – feel the width’.
So apt so often.
The destruction of the US middle-class has not been an unintended
side effect of our ruling™ class, but a feature, from their POV.
Go long guillotines.
It is happening in Europe, too. Here in Germany (Nordrhein-Westfalen), a 120 sq. m. house in a decent neighborhood with infrastructure can’t be had for less than EUR 500,000 unless major work is needed.
In my middle-class/mc+ neighborhood, housing prices are set to jump by 22% by 2020. For a 120 sq. m. house, that will translate to about 100k in ONE year. In other parts of the country the jump is predicted to be as high as 28%.
Insanity.
Speak of the devil…
Man Arrested For Hunting Rats Along Interstate 90
Written by Jonah Spangenthal-Lee on April 8, 2019 1:41 pm
Seattle police arrested a man in a greenbelt near Interstate 90 on Sunday after he reportedly pointed a realistic-looking airsoft rifle into traffic while hunting for rats.
Around 12:45 PM, a motorist called 911 and reported seeing the man with the rifle in an encampment between I-90 and Judge Charles M. Stokes overlook.
Officers arrived and found the 41-year-old man in the encampment–which is regularly visited by the city’s Navigation Team–and took him into custody. The man told police he was using the airsoft rifle to “shoot rats” in the encampment.
Police booked the man into the King County Jail for the unlawful use of a weapon in a public place.
spdblotter.seattle.gov/2019/04/08/man-arrested-for-hunting-rats-along-interstate-90/
“And now, what avenue will all this diseased animus of the thinking class go down….?”
It will go down the same avenue as always, it will promise a better life to the lowest denominator in order to gain power.
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Thinking Class?
Off with their heads! *sarcasm*
I won’t be so Pollyannish to say we really ever had one but we pretended we had a meritocracy once. Now we don’t even pretend. The idea of having to earn your stuff is as dead as a dinosaur. As pernicious as that fact is the almost thinking class thought that was all they had to do, think. Some kind of mental telepathic unionization where having to act and follow through went on strike.
That’s an interesting thought Dog, that the thinking class only had to think in order to get paid. Was this nation not built by a working class that found that if it worked it could provide a value to the society as a whole and thereby be compensated for their labors? Seems that way to me. If you want other people to give things, like income to you, then you have to provide something of value to them to earn it, no? So now this thinking class has decided that what it has of value for the rest of us is to think for us? Are they so wise and we so stupid that we actually are now forced to pay for others to think for us? Well if we are then we deserve what we get and if we are not, then we all had better start doing some real serious thinking on our own, don’t you agree?
By and large, people hate to think and if you try and make them they will hate you with a passion. The damnable aspect is that this often applies to people with high IQ’s who simply refuse to use their gift outside of their profession or hobby – like the inane and obsessive type analysis done by football and baseball fanatics.
Democracy is a joke – and it proponents are dangerous fools or cynical usurpers. Why do you think the Founding Fathers hated it so much?
Every person I run into on the campaign trail who doesn’t know who they voted for last because they hit the R or the D line vote button, or that they voted for who their friend, neighbor, or spouse told them to vote for drives the fact home that your statement is correct. And there are A LOT of these people trust me.
It boggles my mind that so many people vote for whomever their parents did (political party) or whomever they did when they were younger without recognizing that stuff changes and they need to be flexible and change with it. I think a lot of Democratic voters vote this way as they refuse to recognize the direction the Democrats have been heading in for a long time. Thus we have people voting for the likes of Rep Omar who really hates them(such as all the Jews who voted for her). Crazy……..
Mt Gal,
I’ve seen that same thing in my family. My mom was raised by her mom who remembered FDR and the new deal fondly. My mom is a baby boomer and came of age during the Vietnam war era. I get why she became a democrat. What I don’t get is why she refuses to acknowledge the reality that the party has shifted and no longer is the party of the people that may have once been.
“It boggles my mind that so many people vote for whomever their parents did…”
We were saved from that because, throughout their entire married life, my mother voted Tory and my father voted Labour, so they went out together at each election, cancelled out each other’s vote, and went home again to put the kettle on for a nice cup of tea – the solution to everything over here!
>>> Why do you think the Founding Fathers hated it so much?
They hardly hated it, since they explicitly included democratic elements in the Constitution. What they hated was tyranny. Of kings, majorities, minorities, etc.
Elements, yes. But not Democracy itself per se. A Republic is not a Democracy even if it has democratic elements.
You’re using the term “democracy” here in a very narrow and specific way, perhaps to denote an Athenian-style democracy?
Of course the Founders didn’t want that; Athenian democracy failed spectacularly.
What would be a true democracy? That everything is voted upon at all times? If the police want to arrest me, I can demand a vote instead?
Democracy is an essential ingredient of all free nations, as it’s the only component that adds legitimacy to political rule. Much like seasoning, however, you can’t add too much. The trick is getting the right balance.
Do you realize that in parliamentary democracies, the people don’t even directly vote for their leaders? They vote for reps who in turn form coalitions that in turn elect a leader. From my perspective, there’s not enough democracy in that arrangement. But it seems to work for them.
Exscotticus
Not jumping on this for an argument – you make some interesting and valid points. No system is perfect.
And, given the (thankfully small) number of commenters on here who’d like to regress to a situation where half the population can’t vote based on their lack of dangly bits, even when they pay taxes, it’s interesting that the Athenian system, which practised just that, still failed.
Moving on… I think the choice of parliamentary against presidential systems is pretty much a matter of taste. You don’t like parliamentary; I don’t like presidential – tomahto, tomayto…
The parliamentary system doesn’t lend itself to demagoguery as the presidential system does – I’d stick with it just on that basis. Imagine a president who says he’ll accept the vote – but only if he wins. Well, you don’t have to imagine it, in fact.
But yes, the parliamentary system relies on having good leaders, but it stands and falls by a number of other things too, depending on the system. And while your system is stymied (or given safety mechanisms, depending on your view) by having presidents of one party working with/against a House dominated by another, we have the first-past-the-post-system which denies a chunk of the electorate any real representation (in Scotland we have PR for the Scottish Parliament, which has its own advantages and disadvantages, although we vote for Westminster MPs by FPTP)).
As for ‘what would be a true democracy?’, then I think the Brexit fiasco is an excellent illustration of what happens when you take a representative democracy and go for the plebiscite approach just when it suits you. Chaos. Unlimited.
“They vote for reps who in turn form coalitions that in turn elect a leader. “
That tends to happen more in systems with PR, rather than FPTP electoral systems. Again, it has advantages and disadvantages. Less ‘strong’ government but more negotiation and compromise. Again, a matter of taste.
I know that if I vote for my local sitting MP (Scottish Labour and and currently part of a small island of SLP MPs in an ocean of Scots Nats), I’m also voting potentially for Jeremy Corbyn, in whom I have no confidence whatsoever. Dilemma.
But I think your second last para states the situation perfectly and is to both our tastes.
Re the Athenian system, I added the bit about taxes in retrospect and didn’t change the structure of the sentence, so it doesn’t apply to the Athenian ladies!
To be fair, your system isn’t immune to demagoguery. Churchhill, for example, was well-known for playing the public off against his political rivals. And any leader is capable of buffoonery—no matter how they were installed.
One advantage to your system is that there’s less political paralysis, as coalitions are normal and necessary. Opponents work together and compromise. Third party alternatives thrive. That means more choice for voters.
Whereas we lack party choice, I’d say we have more choice overall. We get to directly elect House and Senate reps, for example. You don’t directly elect reps for your House of Lords.
This makes for interesting dynamics, as we can (and do!) elect reps that have opposing policy. This seemingly schizophrenic behavior only makes sense when you understand that our system is built upon a profound mistrust of government. And I simply can’t resist: We have you to thank for that.
I would like to add that having an explicit right to free speech (1A) and an explicit right to meaningful self-defense (2A) seems better than the “common law” approach taken by parliamentary-style democracies. Our individual freedom-from-government-intrusion rights have held up better over time.
I’m particularly distressed by hate speech laws that are increasingly making it unlawful to offend state-favored minorities. Consider this article and this one.
“One advantage to your system is that there’s less political paralysis, as coalitions are normal and necessary. Opponents work together and compromise. Third party alternatives thrive. That means more choice for voters.”
I think you may be thinking more of Germany or Scandinavia (some or all) who have PR-based systems and are used to coalitions as standard practice. They rarely happen here. In recent times (a few decades ago) there was the Lib-Lab pact and more recently the Tory-Lib coalition. The jury is still out.
(We have the same issue with the two main parties. The smaller parties lose out enormously because of the ‘wasted vote’ theory. Hence a long fight by some for PR, which the two main parties naturally won’t countenance.)
The current situation is different. May threw away her parliamentary majority by calling an unnecessary election in order to get moral advantage for a hard Brexit and having it entirely backfire on her, because most people didn’t remotely want that.
However, while that left the Tories with a minority government, they still formed the government. All they have is a ‘Confidence and Supply’ arrangement with the DUP, whereby we (UK taxpayers) gave them £1 billion and they were to back the government in parliamentary votes. Hmmm… didn’t really work out in the one that mattered. Don’t know if we’ll get any of our money back. But it’s not a formal coalition and they got no ministerial posts. Thank god.
“And I simply can’t resist: We have you to thank for that.”
You’re very welcome.
Honestly, what confuses Americans most about your system is the royal aspects. We understand that there are very good reasons for keeping things as is, but is it fair to say that the only real political powers left to the monarchy (that’s actually routinely used) is the power to be informed of goings-on, and the power to pardon?
It’s ironic that the less political they are, the more popular they are, which ensures their political status.
“Honestly, what confuses Americans most about your system is the royal aspects. ”
Consider me equally confused. The monarchy is an anachronism that only survived because it turned itself some considerable time ago into some kind of figurehead aristocratic Waltons (didn’t work out well in the end, that bit, given their divorce rate) patronisingly inspiring the nation, to avoid going the way of the Romanovs.
I don’t wish them any harm personally, but I wish they’d just fade away. They bring in a few tourist pounds but they cost a whole lot too. And they keep an aristocratic ethos going in people’s heads that they should have long ago grown out of.
I’m afraid the people who most loudly support them – and who will not let them go – are the flagwaving Brexiters. Queen and Country.
What can I say? I’m just glad I’m so far north. It’s embarrassing.
I didn’t mean to shame. Trump’s far from perfect, but I won’t apologize for him. Nor do I feel embarrased as an American. After all, he wasn’t elected for his diplomatic skills, or to be a moral compass for the universe. I’m more embarrased over our recent misadventures with legalized torture.
Anyway, all nations have their cultural peccadillos. Makes things more interesting.
Greetings Walter —
I would opine that in the past (of the USA) the “thinking class” actually used to turn out mental product that was anchored in reality and which could be used as blueprints for economic endeavor, political renewal, basic research, etc.
The crew that pretends to be our “thinking class” today are mostly a pack of brainwashed wannabe operators who prefer shortcuts to getting the job done correctly. That ain’t worth paying for!
Cheers
Agree? It really isn’t a matter of agreement when the evidence is front and center in JHKs screed today.
Something about some banksters losing their heads? Cosmic accountability for payments due exceeding accounts made up from thin air! Consider all the software flashing screens everywhere.
How much of it is doing work and how much is only the masterbation of thought? The common belief is no longer that rivers flow to the sea. The common belief is they now flow uphill!
” the masterbation of thought…”
That spelling only works as the pun in Psycho, K-Dog 🙂
What meritocracy there was began to rapidly dissolve during the tech bubble of the 1990’s, accompanied by the expansion of stock-marketers like Charles Schwab who advertised stock trading to schlepp in the country, not real investors. Everyone heard stories of someone buying Dell at $1.00 and selling it at $100. The idea of money for nothing replaced the concept of earning money. Ditto Real Estate. Ditto the expansion of personal injury attorneys who could get you millions if only you had some minor misfortune you could blame on someone else. Everyone wants to find any gimmick that will be the equivalent of winning the Powerball, and acquiring a lot of money with absolutely no effort. I’m afraid short of SHTF, there is no going backwards from the multiple critical dysfunctions in US society.
We think. They sweat.
Very good article!
I agree, but the last section needs to wait until the Report is released. Plus, it might be more than interesting to see the tax returns. Plus, you forget Trump is a NYC crooked RE scam artist who has no business being president. Sure, the drum pounding Deep State narrative feels good, but the din covers up the absolute crime of orange doofus as leader. Yes, the Country needs to feel shame for electing such a monster. There will be a lot of abologizing to do. For decades. If, we survive it.
Speaking of education and crooked institutions, what about Trumps grades and assorted school records including Fred donations?
I think the only hope left is an economic collapse in the next 18 months. The longer this farce continues the worse the ending.
Horns of a dilemma!
Why should he release his tax returns for public view? No law exists that says he has to. I understand he’s been audited every year since 1985, if anything criminal had been found he would have been prosecuted a long time ago.
‘Russia Collusion’ proved to be a hoax, and this whole ‘tax return’ grift is an attempt to cook up another hoax. Why should the President participate in it? No, he’s clearly saying F-you to the trolls and midgets trying to get at his tax records.
Brh
When a group has no answers or ideas, it resorts to hoaxes. Period!
Obama came out and told the Progressives that they are creating a circular firing squad and ensuring a Trump victory.
The leader of the firing squad will be Howard Schultz. He is the one Democrat that can beat Trump. Why? Because he is like Trump, Street smart, self made, anti Deep State.
>>> “Why should he release his tax returns for public view?”
Uh, to prove he isn’t a crook like all the presidents since Eisenhower have done and that he promised he would? Promises don’t mean much to the alternative fact crowd, do they? Mexico will pay for the wall. What freaking rubes!
Did your parents never ask you a simple question?
If all your friends jump off a bridge to their deaths why should you?
Donald is no lemming and not realizing his tax returns is another huge troll bonus for him.
He won’t release them just to drive people like you more nuts.
The Donald better at trolling the trolls than you.
Correct. He is no doubt a crook, but far less dangerous than the Satanic Scum who want to take him down.
Both sides are destroying America. And actually, both sides agree about open borders. The Left is just honest about this, while the so called conservatives are not.
>>> Uh, to prove he isn’t a crook
In the USA, the prosecution has the burden of proof—not the defendant. There’s no legal basis for releasing tax returns to the public. Not even for the deceased.
Beyond legality, Trump has nothing to gain by releasing his tax records; his supporters don’t care, and his detractors are clearly just looking for dirt.
>>> Promises don’t mean much to the alternative fact crowd, do they?
Please link to your post complaining that Obama didn’t keep his promise to close Gitmo year after year for eight years. Yeah—thought so. Now go take your TDS pills…
Ex,
Precisely. That is why the law allows certain individuals to access ANYONE’s tax return including his Orangeness. For once, we agree, imagine that.
EX,
>>> “Please link to your post complaining that Obama didn’t keep his promise to close Gitmo year after year for eight years. Yeah—thought so. Now go take your TDS pills…”
Nice try. No TDS pills needed. It’s tough to close a prison when a Republican controlled senate/congress won’t give you the authority to move the prisoners into US Federal custody, isn’t it.
“Barack Obama’s efforts to fulfil his promise of closing the Guantánamo Bay detention centre before he leaves office were dealt a significant blow on Tuesday as the Senate passed legislation preventing the administration from relocating prisoners to the United States.
The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which has the primary purpose of setting the US Defense Department budget, passed the Senate by an overwhelming majority of 91-3 in a faster-than-usual passage through Congress, designed in part to frustrate White House plans to announce a new Guantánamo closure strategy.”
Did you see it was 91 to 3? A bit difficult with obstinate senators. LOL.
>>> It’s tough to close a prison when a Republican controlled senate/congress won’t give you the authority to move the prisoners into US Federal custody, isn’t it.
Oh is that right? Just like it’s hard to build a wall when a Democratically controlled House won’t pay for it?
Gitmo is a military base. Obama was the undisputed Commander and Chief of the military. Yes—he could have closed Gitmo. And as head of the Executive, he doesn’t need authority to move prisoners into US Federal custody. He could have challenged any law saying otherwise as usurping the Executive branch. He could have fought it in court—just as Trump is fighting (and largely winning) in court for his rights.
The NDAA? LOL—Obama signed that bill into law. The NDAA wouldn’t exist WITHOUT Obama.
Also, the idea that these prisoners had to be transfered to stand trial is false. Obama could have ordered the JAGs to try them all on the base right then and there. See that empty tent? Now it’s a courtroom. Done.
>>> “Did your parents never ask you a simple question?
If all your friends jump off a bridge to their deaths why should you?”
No, they did not ever suggest my friends might or were planning to jump off bridges, why would they do that???
>>> “Donald is no lemming and not realizing [sic] his tax returns is another huge troll bonus for him.”
True enough ben, he’s not a lemming… he’s a run of the mill TAX CHEAT and has already paid many fines because of his misrepresentations on paying his taxes. His sister just resigned her federal judgeship to avoid ethics issues with her role in the family tax fraud.
Nice leader, and role model you’ve chosen to hitch your wagon to, as it were. A tax cheat and a RACIST. Nice!
Because he has accepted Russian financial aid in the past. He is now president. He appears to be very interested in siding with Russia. In Helsinki he believed the Russian leader over his own intelligence agencies and admitted it on the world stage. We need to know if Putin has some hold over him and that will be in his financial records and tax returns. For example, if a Russian bank gave him a 2% loan on $400 million when most banks would charge 6 or 8 % on the same loan. That’s the difference between $8 million and $32 million to service that loan annually. And since we know Trump keeps goats on his golf courses to take the farm animal tax deduction, we know he would do anything to avoid paying taxes. Thus he would claim that $8 million as a business expense and he would be CAUGHT!!!!!!!!
Why shouldn’t I believe Putin over an admitted Communist like Brennan, Obama’s CIA head. The deep state intelligence aristocracy is all New World Order, Globalist, evil, lying, Satanic filth! In my opinion.
That sounds like rambling nonsense; it certainly proves nothing.
My goodness the desperation is showing.
Have you not figured it out even now?
Donald is two steps ahead of all you deranged dirty masses and the idiocracy you follow and listen to.
“And since we know Trump keeps goats on his golf courses to take the farm animal tax deduction, we know he would do anything to avoid paying taxes. Thus he would claim that $8 million as a business expense and he would be CAUGHT!!!!!!!!”
Wolfie,
We ought to have the Bastard audited…oh, wait….
Trump apologists are the lowest form of fungi.
I’m a fun guy!
And what does that make you since you appear to be a apologist and supporter of the Democrat party?
A party that easily is the most corrupt self serving party to ever attempt to destroy our great country.
Trump is bad but still better than any serving current Democrat and most of the republicans as well.
Our current two party system is a puss oozing sore and blight upon the American people.
Seriously time for a third party adventure catering in common sense tried and true governance minus the egos, race baiting and pc nonsense.
Maddow had one return and broke down on air when there was nothing noteworthy to report other than the confirmation that Trump made some 150 million that year (despite McResister insistence that he is broke).
More interesting though would be if Paulo could supply us with concrete evidence of all of the criminal activity that Trump is supposedly involved in.
You are nuts. Read your own venom.
In your desire to “get Trump”, you have advocated destroying the economic lives of millions of Americans.
Trump will win. He will win on the theme:
Are you better off than you were four years ago?
YES
Apparently Al Sharpton — the new Dem ‘Kingmaker’ — whose ass all the Dem pres candidates were sucking last weekend — is in arrears in his income tax about $5 million.
Lets see his tax records first.
Brh
Let’s see Obamas school records and real B/C if they can even find it.
The one they showed the world was so fake the cold case posse ripped it apart and of course the TDS media refused to look at it instead resorted to screaming tin foil hat crowd.
Now look dip forward eight years and the tin foil hat crowd is engaged in huge fraud, conspiracy and nonsense.
My my what a shame.
BRH,
I have been following Al Sharpton’s trajectory since he first surfaced with the Tawana Brawley farce. His ignorance is breathtaking…makes Maxine Waters seem a Mensa candidate by comparison.
Yes, after all this, does the idea that Obama isn’t really an American Citizen really so hard to believe? That’s small compared to the frauds they’ve already gotten away with.
“Apparently Al Sharpton — the new Dem ‘Kingmaker’ — whose ass all the Dem pres candidates were sucking last weekend — is in arrears in his income tax about $5 million.”
Many years ago as a young teacher, I met a woman who was “rev Al’s” Social studies teacher. She told me that he was just as much as a race hustler in high school as he was in later life.
No, we’re pretty much the same.
“rev Al’s” Social studies teacher. She told me that he was just as much as a race hustler in high school as he was in later life. – Jig
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Well, at least he’s been able to keep the weight off.
Very interesting indeed. The country needs to feel shame for electing such a monster. Yet I do not see anything in your comment to indicate what the Elite should feel shame for. Your focus on Trump is not surprising but nevertheless strange. You are begging for the economic collapse so that it will presumably unseat Trump? Do you think about him immediately upon waking up and right before drifting off to sleep?
Paulo,
I’d like to know what crime the “orange doofus leader” has had covered up. And frankly, the one percent and Congress and the Democrats are the ones who need to feel ashamed for what they’re doing to their citizenry and their nation. And they are the ones who should be apologizing. The MSM certainly needs to apologize to the nation.
As I recall Obama’s school records, papers, travels he made, were all sealed. I don’t recall any Democrat screaming to see them.
I’m perfectly sick and tired of the Democrats’ sour grapes attitude. Allow Trump to be the President and quit fighting him on every little thing he wants to do. The crisis at the border is a great example of what the Democrats are doing as they allow more and more illegals to flood our country at a time when resources are becoming scarce. I used to be a Democrat. Worked on dozens and dozens campaigns. I left the Party. I don’t even recognize it anymore. A bunch of sore losers who use actions which could be considered sedition and treason to try to get rid of a duly elected president. Bah.
You nailed it both parties are bad but right now the Democrats are just rotten to the core.
Linda,
You have imbibed deeply of the hogwash flavored kool-aid. Listen to yourself. A nice honorable loyal, leader you’ve hooked up with. No problem with pu$$y grabbing, eh? Bah, indeed.
Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan issued a report in the 1980’s which predicted what would happen to the black family if we continued in the policy of creating dependency on the federal government through entitlement programs; namely, that the mother would no longer need a man around to get in her way and provide a masculine guidance for their children. And, that is exactly what happened, taking along a lot of white families as well. In my opinion, Moynihan would have made a great president, perhaps the greatest. The Clinton machine killed him off in short order.
Masculine guidance has been redefined as poisonous. Please don’t shoot the messenger or kick the dog.
Yet the lack of masculine guidance is acknowledge as the main cause of the problems in the Black community.
Okey, JHK thinkers, make up your minds.
I can see it directly in my own circle of friends.
This with two parents in the houses have children that have done better and seem more stable, adjusted and on a defined direction in life.
Those households in every case but one where It was just one working parent have kids in the mid twenties and twisting in the wind drinking, drugs, partying, work minimum wage jobs if at all and generally not doing well.
There is no way around it one working parent raising kids is just to damn difficult now a days it takes two.
I believe that Moynihan issued his well known paper in 1965. At the time the black illegitimacy rate was “only” 25% but he warned of where this was heading.
Yes, they could have done better, but remember, the Black American IQ would still be an average of 85. And their testosterone rate would still be the highest of any race. In other words, they would still be producing the classic criminal type in numbers out of all proportion to their actual population.
I doubt that the negroid race is any more stupid or sexualized than others, but let’s assume it’s true. That does not necessarily mean that they will become countercultural or anti-social. When I was growing up in the South, lo those many years ago, black families were very intact and their children were very well behaved.
Whites and Blacks are so different that they cannot find common cause with us for the most part. Even the talented tenth who can function very well in White Society almost invariably side with their dysfunctional brethren.
From another angle: They have not and will not forgive us for what we did. Imagine you cheated on your spouse, got caught, and begged forgiveness. They say Yes, but only verbally. They never really forgive you. Blacks haven’t even said, “Yes”. They’re not going to forgive us, shotho. Divorce is the only viable option – unless you want to choose the misery of ethnomasochism.
It doesn’t take a high IQ to form a stable and loving family unit. Obviously, in order to successfully parent one needs a certain level of intelligence. We shouldn’t be facilitating the bearing of children by those unable to adequately work to support and parent them; we do this by our endless aid payments in which we encourage single motherhood and .men producing offspring they will never be around to parent or support.
“…marijuana has been legal in California for several years now.”
Actually, just since January 1 of 2018.
Aren’t there more people than jobs for them to do? Isn’t that one of the the big issues going forward?
Getting a medical card was no big deal. Been that way for years.
Are you kidding? In Canada it takes 9 years post secondary and a brutal residency. Plus, there are a limited number of university spaces open. I wouldn’t want to do it.
I might be mistaken, but I think that K-Dog was referring to a California medical card to purchase marijuana…
Yes
Right, and the forces of AI and toxic capitalism are exacerbating the situation.
So what do we do?
Bring in a million new non-skilled workers a year to aggravate the situation in another way.
Toxic Capitalism is when the motivation of profit overwhelms the motivation of people. This is a mental illness infecting the business community of the country and getting worse.
The source?
Higher education and the give away MBA programs
No, no! We re-elect his Orangeness and he’ll rescue us all!!! Simpletons.
If I referred to Obama as “his Brown-ness” or “his Mulatto-hood”, would that be racist, jdhines? Well, clean up your own anti-ginger racism!
According to the rules of political correctness, one is not permitted to racially deride one’s own group, lest that encourage a free-for-all. For example, once the “N” word is out of the bag, everyone feels free to join in the fun (and before you know it) you’ve hurt Donna Brazile’s feelings.
And what’s more; has anyone ever caught the GGG with an empty can of spray tan? Once again, it’s character assassination by speculation.
Yes, it would, because it refers to his race. His Orangeness, on the other hand, is not racist, because it refers to something your GGG does to his-self, namely colorings of all manner applied to skin and hair. Let’s keep our terms straight, shall we?
I am impressed with your evolution re Capitalism. Motivation for profit has resulted in innovation and improvement. But the unfettered motivation for profit also has a destructive side that must be regulated by a government that has the national interest at heart.
Has anyone looked into just how terrible those jobs being offered at the dispensaries pay?
URBNLeaf is advertising on indeed for positions that are just at minimum wage while having stacks of cash even their IT position tops out at 70k and they want a full fledged sysadmin with all the certs and skills.
That’s the whole purpose of machines: to replace people. There have been more people than jobs for over a century. That’s the way the Big Boys like it. Keeps the wages low. Now that they can get rid of people entirely, think they won’t do it? Amazon workers need to go the bathroom. Robots don’t. A McDonald’s manager (Black female) strangled her pregnant White employee who kept needing to go the bathroom. Needless to this wouldn’t happen if you had robots working. The two workers can go die out on the street for all Management cares.
depopulation.
Are you poor? You mentioned shopping at a thrift store.
Do you see the chemtrails? Look up, its not a bird, its not a plane, its not a contrail.
There have been more people than jobs for over a century.
Nelson Rockefeller wanted women to go to work. So why the–
There have been more people than jobs for over a century?
Ummm….just to set the record straight – a McDonalds’s manager was attacked by a customer over ketchup…it was a Taco Bell manager choked a pregnant employee.
Duh duh duh duh duuuhh… I’m lovin’ it.
Or how Mr. Langone made his fortune by putting every local hardware store in America out of business, which enabled him to capture the annual incomes of ten thousand small business owners and their employees…
I remember that pre-BigBox era as if in a dream! It seems so remote now and I question if it ever really existed at all, like something out of a William Faulkner novel.
The same has happened to mom & pop pharmacies, office supply stores, travel agencies, local 5 & 10 stores, haberdasher’s, etc. etc. But that’s good old fashioned Right Wing capitalism for you. Offshore those jobs to make sure CEOs live like Nero and the military gets full funding.
Right wing capitalism?
Those businesses you mention, what happens to them in nations that adapt left wing socialism? Do they thrive? Are small main street businesses thriving in Venezuela right now? In Cuba? In SAfrica?
Brh
Yes, they thrive.
Norway, Sweden, Denmark are all doing pretty well compared to us. Have you been to socialist Germany lately? They actually have an infrastructure and public health system that isn’t of the third world! They also have good, union factory jobs making all manner of domestic and export products and plenty of trade schools to boot. It beats digging coal, pumping earl, flipping burgers, working in telemarketing and, it even beats getting whacked on Oxycontin or Horse too.
You should try getting off the Oxy, brh, it might really help.
I love it when dems mention Sweden. Last I checked their version of the neo Nazi party had gained power over the country after open border policies and a strong social welfare system led to an influx of Islamic refugees. The outcome? Lots of crime by Muslims against whites. I’m not saying all of this to defend a racist world view. I say it only to observe factually that the road to hell is indeed paved with good intentions.
Very rarely do I agree with Jdhines, but here I do.
One of the symptoms of toxic capitalism is the breakdown on Main Street. People have pride in their place in a community and the community shows it. MainStreet is the middle class of the country, and its breakdown is causing the income inequality that is tearing the country apart.
Problem solving should be aimed at eliminating the negative aspects of capitalism and maintaining its entrepreneurial spirit.
And the last thing that should be done is giving the parasites in DC any more economic power by encouraging socialism.
JohnAZ,
I am glad that we have found some common ground. There is probably more common ground than either of us know. Thanks for being honest.
Comparing tiny, dense countries where the population all live within a few hours of driving to each other, with the US, with it’s exceptionally large land mass, is simply not valid when speaking of infrastructure.
Also, those nations are clearly on a suicidal path, as they have allowed mass immigration of people who are doing everything they can to not assimilate, and eventually take over their hosts. Those who look to these countries as something to emulate need to have their head checked.
Oxy? Dude, I can hear the bong bubbling away as you type.
The Scandinavian countries are on a path to extinction due to unchecked immigration. Great economic systems, national infrastructure, and social programs cannot survive disunity and the loss of trust. Immigration results in disunity and the loss of trust.
Making any comparison to Germans or Germany does not really work out fairly jd, because the Germans and their mentality and work ethics are very different from any I am aware of,. I know firsthand fom my Father and Grandfathers before me. Generalizing of course, the German people like to work and look at their work afterwards. Give them a place to live, some forests and open spaces to peruse from time to time, and a few beers a day and they are happy. If you have not read the Arms of Krupp you should for it gives a great insight into the people from as far back as the Roman emperors. Yes if you piss them off, watch out and they are far too stringent about following orders, but they are workers and savers and those qualities will always build very sound social structures.
Jack,
>>> “Comparing tiny, dense countries where the population all live within a few hours of driving to each other, with the US, with it’s exceptionally large land mass, is simply not valid when speaking of infrastructure.”
That’s a fair point and I agree with it. That’s why I think this sucker has to be busted-up into more manageable parts.
Let the Hard Right have their religious white nation state with no taxes, no abortions and guns for everyone. Why not? They can farm, go wild pig hunting, look for ginseng (aka “sang”) in the hills, farm, make moonshine, ride scooters, go muddin, whatever-the-hell they wanna do, just stay the f@$k out of the blue states.
“Let the Hard Right have their religious white nation state with no taxes, no abortions and guns for everyone. Why not? They can farm, go wild pig hunting, look for ginseng (aka “sang”) in the hills, farm, make moonshine, ride scooters, go muddin, whatever-the-hell they wanna do, just stay the f@$k out of the blue states.”
Speaking as someone who just “got the f@$k out of a blue state”, I am continually astounded at the number of people from the Northeast who have moved here. We constantly meet people from NY, NJ, CT , and the theme is always the same – ” We left because the taxes are too high”
I live in Germany. We have a mixed economy, quite similar to the US. The major differences for us plebes are more humane state mandated employer regulations on vacation time, Elternzeit, Mutterschutz, etc, as well as a healthcare option for those who don’t meet the income level for private insurance.
Otherwise, life here is nearly identical. You need a good job if you want any of the “perks” of a middle class + lifestyle. Otherwise you live off Hartz IV and live in a 65 qm apartment in a highrise that looks like it belongs behind the Iron Curtain.
You talk big, but are clueless.
“I am glad that we have found some common ground. There is probably more common ground than either of us know. Thanks for being honest.”
JD, if you shut your yap and listened for a change you’d find out that there is lots to agree on.
He got you BRH. It’s sad that you let someone like hines do that to you, but he’s right on this and you’re wrong. Culture means going against the stream of lower human desire. Of course, Big Business wants everything their own way. The damnable question is, Why do people like you let them off the hook?
I mean if you can’t understand what I say about the the Apex of the Triangle and the high Middle of Fascism, then at the very least you have to understand the necessity of the low middle, or Socialistic midpoint between Capitalism and Socialism. You’re simply off in neverland with Jacko if you can’t do that much. Look, watch some of your Westerns – the ones about Big Ranchers driving little guys out of business. Or the Railroad doing the same. You’re the righteous gunfighter who wanders into town. Which side do you shoot for?
Which side do you shoot for? – JS
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Um, the Big Ranchers and the Railroad? 😉
All kidding aside Janos, your Luddite answer to this problem (and Walmart, Home Depot, etc) just doesn’t cut it.
And your status quo is no longer viable. So the very human thing is to double down on what is not working anymore as Jared Diamond points out. That’s what your’e doing here. Human, all too human….
Until thing have to change it’s necessary that they do not. No stiches in time allowed. The logic of tragedy from the pop mind of Q das, servant of the servants of the golems of the Masters.
The one with the biggest tits.
I suspect it has less to do with your hate for Das CAPITOL and more to do with the rise of online services.
Most of them mom and pop stores couldn’t figure out or afford how to make the switch from just brick and mortar to servicing peoples needs on the internet.
Face facts an full fledged IT shop running servers and staffed is fricking expensive, time consuming AND well beyond most mom and pop stores to stand up.
Walter,
>>> “Making any comparison to Germans or Germany does not really work out fairly jd, because the Germans and their mentality and work ethics are very different from any I am aware of.”
You are no doubt correct about our German forebears Walt, they were/are a special people, but also capable of some pretty nasty business, but I must confess my admiration and fondness for those great ancestors (mainly Prussian in my case).
So in other words, they have to be replaced and/or bred out of existence by nice Browns and Blacks who never do anything wrong, right?
What comes after will be so different, so much lower than what came before that it won’t deserve to be called German, European, or Western.
Ah Janos, but at least those who rule will be able to rest peacefully knowing that the masses shall never bother them again.
Janos,
Now you know I don’t want anything bad to happen to our noble, white brethren. As I have previously stated, they have many positive, endearing characteristics. I think the phrase, “To whom much is given much is required” applies here.
In other words, they must fairly and firmly help ALL peoples raise themselves up. Isn’t that what Christianity requires? I am not all that religious, but I think many of the spiritual teaching are very worthwhile to society in general.
No, they should not be replaced or bred out of existence. Moreover, I don’t think it’s even possible given the numbers. I think you might misunderstand me Janos, but I may be wrong.
You are correct in your assertion that those to whom much is given, much is expected jd, and no, we have not done the best job of sharing and caring at least IMHO. Giving does not mean cash hand outs however for giving can take many forms and many that are more worthwhile than money which can be siphoned off by those at the top (HRC). A question that I have never seen sufficiently answered myself is what to do and how to handle those who just take, who give nothing even when they can do something, and why our society refuses to address the problem. The Romans had no difficulty dealing with them, why can’t we come up with a solution that is a lot less violent and a lot more functional?
One gives out of one’s surplus and not at the expense of one’s own. Giving our daughters and our nations is a bridge far too far as a Black Cardinal recently said. Whites have every right to their own nations.
Here’s a good one for you JD. Maybe consider it the next time you are bashing people for not agreeing with you.
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”
And another
“So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.”
Janos
“So in other words, they have to be replaced and/or bred out of existence by nice Browns and Blacks who never do anything wrong, right?”
You use so many straw men in your responses, you’re a serious fire hazard.
In other words…
>>> “Whites have every right to their own nations.”
Then have them, who’s stopping you? You could buy a little island somewhere, or, I don’t know, several thousand acres in South America, something like that….
That is Bezos and Zuck for you.
Both leftist, globalist, anti White monsters.
Reparations should have been made immediately after the Civil War. I suspect that was one of the many reasons Lincoln was murdered. It could have been done quite easily at the time because the West was still wide open. You could have gotten them out of the south, settled them out west, gave them some money to get started, checked on them a few years later. Perhaps started a trade school where they could have went and learned carpentry or blacksmithing or running a shop or grocery. Functional citizenry is the key. To think we have made a business out of incarcerating them is sickening after what we did to them. That is what should be done now too. Trade schools and universities where blacks can go free and learn how to make a living. When they complete their studies given them a grubstake. Sure you’ll have poor whites up in arms. So we should have a similar program for them. Go to school free. when you finish a degree in engineering or law or business you get a grubstake too. Keep in mind when you raise the poor into consumers your market gets bigger. A lot bigger. So it’s not charity so much as an investment into growing the consumer base.
Send cash!
This is a good idea that should have been implemented with emancipation. It is far too late now. Black culture has embraced the welfare state completely. Concepts like work ethic, land ownership, and personal responsibility have been denigrated as too white, undesirable, and entirely unnecessary. Fixing this would require a commitment our country is no longer capable of.
I wonder if seawolf and jdhines, our resident liberal utopians, have ever dealt with the lower one third of the black population?
Many blacks have entered the American middle class through their hard work. But there is a certain portion of blacks (and whites,too) who cannot achieve great heights. Let’s face it. They are handicapped by low IQ’s, poor work ethic, poor communication skills, near illiteracy, bad ethical and moral values, inability to postpone gratification, inability to practice sane money management, even inability to control emotional behavior. The list goes on.
They are the same person.
You promised to keep that our “little secret,” 100th A! Come on now, play fair.
First off, you have to motivate the young Black folks to want to do the higher economic activities you suggest. Black success comes from good nuclear families. Gangs and the current urban environment destroy the family. Good families, good visions and good education are the keys to stop the “Black syndrome”.
All three of these needs are currently unaddressed by a government that really wants to keep Bllacks in their place.
The first step of the Black community to solve their social issues will be to repudiate the Democratic Party and their socialist goals.
And then compete.
It is already started.
“First off, you have to motivate the young Black folks”
…Hunger is a great motivator….
I like the idea of reparations seawolf, and I think I have a way to fund it that won’t cost us a cent. If all of us that descended from central Europeans sue Rome for reparations of our own we could get more than enough to share with the descendants of former American slaves. The Holy Roman Empire, which still exists today in the form of the Vatican, has more than enough cash and a hu8ge burden of debt on its back for enslaving all of our ancient ancestors, doesn’t it?
My grandpappy wuz a slave too!
And what of someone who lost a relative who fought for the North
during USAs civil war? Do they deserve repps from the South?
Well the modern system, at least after WWII, has been that only the winners pay. Perhaps that is because the defeated are so thoroughly looted that they no longer have anything left to give, but since the South is now recovered, why not? In fact I think that the Fed should just print up a few million for all of us and hand it out on the street corners. It worked for the big banks, didn’t’ it?
What a thorough deception and shame on you for touting it. Yet within your arguments are kernels of truth. Blacks and Whites will ultimately be unable to live within the same country and society. Interestingly enough, Blacks will press the issue to the forefront before Whites. Blacks should be given their own separate country. Seed money to help with setup may not be unreasonable too. I doubt that any Black country will prosper but give them what they want and be done with it. Then we can start building a White country. A country which will naturally become as close to paradise as you can get on planet Earth.
You are the Plato to my Socrates; the Darth Vader to my Obi Wan Kenobi. The Time is coming, nay it has come, when you will no longer orbit Me but rather become a Sun in your own right – like great Jupiter may some day do. Then we will orbit it each other and the planets will have to realign themselves to suit Us if they know what’s good for them.
I was Pilgrim in an earlier life. Obi called me Unificer after Lorenzo climbed the mountain. We Patriots knew Comey wore a ballcap.
Context is everything, 17 explained it weeks later, statements made are general, no prohibition on opinion.
How beautiful your words are. And once I fully realize my potential I will be a Star rather than the soft glow of one. That one that is in me that you can see. Thank you.
The glow will still be enjoyed by those far away. Those near to you will have to deal with the Light. As the Theological Germanica says, The same Light that warms the Elect burns the Damned. It’s their resistance that causes it to be felt as heat….
I thought that was the idea behind Liberia.
They say that President Lincoln was going to repatriate all of the Blacks in the US to Liberia but his assassination changed everything politically and thus the full repatriation never happened. If he really loved the Union and wanted the country completely bound together then I think he would have wanted to finish what was started in Liberia.
NO period end of story none of my family had any slaves nor engaged in it in anyway.
You want reparations the DNC should pay for it after all it was the Democrat party that fought against freeing slaves!
While we are at it I can trace one side of my family to the land bridge since my Grandmother was Cherokee so where is my reparations for the murder , land theft and enslavement of my people!
The trail of tears still echo’s through time as a horrible misdeed and the almost destruction of an entire people!
Instead of cash I just want anyone who is a democrat to return to where their ancestors came from and leave the rest of us alone with their mind numbing addled ridiculous brain washed nonsense!
Seawolf you have 30 days to remove yourself sell all your junk and leave the country!
Do you see how ridiculous all this is just how far will the dunce patrol take this before we the people push back and demand a return to sanity?
$10 trillion in welfare swag since 1965.
Reparations: Paid in Full.
Brh
Are there any other nations out there that hand out Welfare, food stamps, Medicaid and cellphones for free? I don’t think so, but I may be wrong.
A grubstake. Sure, like they want to go digging in the soil to find grubs to eat. What a racist. They prefer to eat at McDonald’s. What next? Telling them to go back to Africa and eat dirt – like they actually do over there and even in the Deep South some say?
“Trade schools and universities where blacks can go free and learn how to make a living.”
Sorry, SW, I just spent the last 32 years as an Inner city Vocational HS teacher in the largest school district in America, and it’s not going to happen. You can throw as much money as you want at it- They’re not interested.
You can throw as much money as you want at it- They’re not interested. – Jig
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This is a true story…no hyperbole.
I know a shop teacher (Paul) at New Brunswick HS (population 79% Hispanic, 20% Black, 0% White, 1% Other). When a school year begins in Sept about 50% of his “students” know how to use a ruler. His goal is to have all of them know how to use a ruler by June. He counts the year a success if 98% learn how.
I seem to recall that freed slaves wee given forty acres and a mule.
Actually they welched on that deal but then again not to many treaties were actually complied with by our government of old.
I stand corrected. Thanks benr.
GREEN ALBA,
It particularly appealed to me because i had a colleague who used to spend a fortune going to deepak chopra sessions in the us and even got a bit of paper (at considerable cost) claiming she could now ‘teach’ deepak-y things
Depak, or Deep Pockets as he is called, is in the nicest part of So Cal, Del Mar, if I recall.
I read how he met Maharishi and maybe had an insight, into power and money.
–BOOKS SENT TO AFRICA– WERNER, HE did similar via EST in the 1970s with his ‘Hunger Project’.
EST-Landmark, WERNER HANS ERHARD (BORN JOHN PAUL (((ROSENBERG))).
HECKLER, JANOS, SOFT STARLITE,
amazon.com/Outrageous-Betrayal-Story-Werner-Erhard/dp/0312092962
Malth, I always knew these BS eastern religions and movements, scamming mostly clueless upper middleclass whites who had their heads up their ass, with their Swamis, Messiahs and promises of redemption, were a f-kkin grift.
I thank God I grew up like I did, from extremely humble beginnings, in a small town, me and my brothers spending our young years wandering the surrounding woodlands with our .22 rifles, fishing in the local rivers and streams. I think it innurred me to all that bullshit that was around even then.
Brh
But BRH, its now they are into charity scams.
Before Jack-Werner started in LGAT [group awareness trainings]
he was a door to door salesman, if I recall.
The book I linked to is a great read.
cultnews.com/2004/04/the-hunger-project-attempts-to-purge-criticism-and-history-from-the-internet/
I thank God I grew up like I did, from extremely humble beginnings, in a small town, me and my brothers spending our young years wandering the surrounding woodlands with our .22 rifles, fishing in the local rivers and streams. I think it innurred me to all that bullshit that was around even then. – BRH
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Ditto for me…….. minus the .22 rifles.
” wandering the surrounding woodlands with our .22 rifles, fishing in the local rivers and streams”
Funny way to catch a fish, but each to their own 🙂
Does anyone ring fish where you live? Old Texas boys used to do that after the wars.
Cheers
I’m trying to find out what that means, montsegur, google-wise, but I’m getting fish rings (jewellery!) and nonsense, so I remain unenlightened. I don’t know anything much about fishing. My ex (French) used to fish for brown trout in the late evening, once it was dark, with Vache qui rit processed cheese as bait. Weird but it worked. Everyone in the village used it for trout.
The nearest I found is this:
angusmacleodarchive.org.uk/view/index.php?path=%2F8.+The+Fishing+Industry+in+Lewis+and+Scotland%2F5.…
But it’s ring-net fishing. Is that the same thing?
I’m assuming you don’t just mean a big net on the end of a pole!
I’m a prole, not a ‘paysanne’, alas 🙂 .
Sorry GreenAlba, I knew you would be at a disadvantage trying to understand what I was on about.
After the Second World War (and other wars), there were a fair amount of tactical telephones to be had at surplus stores.
These took two D-cell batteries and connected to each other with twisted-pair wire.
In Texas (and other locales no doubt), the old boys would place the wire in the water, and crank the telephone to generate a ringing signal — “ringing the fish”.
The current from such stunned the fish and they would float on the water and be easily scooped into nets.
I expect more than a few poor families had fish on the table regularly as a result. The practice was, of course, illegal, and wildlife officers kept a watch for it.
Cheers
BTW, I liked that bit about baiting the hooks with The Laughing Cow. ‘Course, maybe that only works with French fish!
Cheers
Ah, right, thanks Montsegur. I’ve heard of that – illegal here too of course in its variations!
As is ‘tickling trout’, something else people did to get supper without attracting the notice of gamekeepers or authorities. Seems to have been popular during the depression.
Ya never heard the term, shooting fish in a barrel?
Whats the title of the book that you wanted someone to read?
Nothing is more holy than killing animals and eating them. As Thoreau said, our distant descendants will view us as we view of cannibalistic ancestors.
Some of the best Americans, people like Emerson and Thoreau, revered the East.You are “batting” 0.00 today.
New book out about ‘Thoreau and Emerson’. Apparently they were on friendly terms. Book getting good reviews.
Brh
I heard they were sometimes joined by Alexander Graham Bell. The 3 amigos used to enjoy electrocuting fish in Walden Pond with Bell’s invention. And oh boy, were they surprised one day to discover you could also talk across long distances with it.
Unfortunately these type of opportunists are everywhere. They are like branches of a great tree. They seem to be in so many places and yet they all go back to the same source. Greed. And what is worse than misguiding people spiritually for profit? Christ said, “It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin.” (Luke 17:2)
malthuss
I like this sentence from Charlatan Chopra’s Rational-Wiki entry:
“Deepak Chopra comes from a long line of (pseudo)-Hindu spiritualists making money off of gullible Americans, but he is one of the first to successfully merge Eastern ayurvedic woo with Western quantum woo and sell it to a mainstream US audience.
SInce I applaud their appraisal, I reluctantly forgive them for ‘off of’.
Without wishing to be mean, I found it rather ironic that the co-founder of the Chopra Centre succumbed to cancer. But evidence isn’t really a thing in such circles.
Separately, malthuss, I feel I should ignore future posts of yours that lower the tone on here with (((that)) childish and unpleasant nonsense. I know it’s clubby and everything and feels really ‘edgy’ and whatnot, but you could be your own man and rise above it.
I seem to have chopped one of Gregor’s legs off. Oops. Hope he’s not crawling in circles. (That may be too cryptic if you missed my response on the last thread.)
Check out the fake charity–The Hunger Project.
Jack – Werner made out like a mega bandit and fled to Switzerland.
The book about him is, shall I say, interesting.
and on a separate note, I am so use to bad English I didnt even notice the gaff [off of] until you pointed that out.
I am so use to bad English – Malth
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No Malth, you are so used to bad English. I hope that doesn’t set our host off on me.
When you aren’t around, Malth tries to be the grammar police in your stead, believe it or not.
I reluctantly forgive them for ‘off of’. – GA quoting somebody
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I hate that expression too. Similarly I hate when someone without a proper home is said to be living out of their car. I would think there would be much greater protection from the elements if they lived in their car.
The one that drives me up the wall is ‘for free’, which unfortunately came to us from over your way.
People actually used to be capable of saying ‘you can get one free at the desk’.
Free of charge.
For free? Really?
But, as they say, language evolves. And sometimes it evolves into mush 🙂 .
Worse things happen at sea… And a heart of gold is more valuable than a silver tongue.
Just occurred to me that no-one says BOGOFF, just BOGOF (or maybe that’s just here) So there’s hope!
Although it does make a more robust acronym.
We just say BOGO: but one get one
There will never be a more ridiculous evolution than the Webster’s folks deciding to include “ginormous.”
Ah, thanks Farmer Joe.
BOGOF has a certain vulgar ring to in in the UK, since ‘bog off’ is also slang for ‘piss off’ etc. As you’d probably worked out!
My user name is a Dr. Strangelove reference, my initials being one of the 17576 three letter permutations that would not call off Doomsday. I try to live as if my actions will have an effect on the macro scale, but in all probability they won’t. I can’t save the world, only myself. People look at preppers and say there was no disaster, your efforts are foolish. A smart person will realize that our current incarnation of civilization is terminally ill. If we’re wrong on how many more months it has to live, it isn’t proof that it’s death isn’t inevitable. The longer it keeps chugging, the more time we have to brace for when it does finally fail.
More horns of a dilemma!
“My user name is a Dr. Strangelove reference”
MDL,
Obscure, but nice….
JHK: “It was the thinking class that led the civil rights campaign of the 1960s.”
This is clearly false. The civil rights campaign of the 1960s was conceived and driven by African Americans themselves. It was met with resistance on both ends of the political spectrum. The reactionary right met it with active, violent resistance (the Bull Connnors of the world). Resistance from the Kennedy administration’s “best and brightest” and the progressive left was more passive, but nonetheless real.
Soon after being arrested in Birmingham, Alabama, Martin Luther King Jr. was visited by eight white members of the clergy who admonished him for his supposedly “unwise and untimely” support for racial equality. This prompted King to respond angrily: “I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice.”
Kunstler goes on to comment about mass incarceration, the drug war, and the black underclass. There’s too much else in there to unpack quickly, but this at least is a basic mistake of fact that Kunstler can’t really be excused for getting wrong.
Equality before the Law is all anyone is owed. Any other kind is a coercive agenda. Letting people off because they are “different” exposes it.
The role of churches can’t be ignored or what what MLK’s profession?
Seriously there were such things once, churches, and when MLK was shot churches from the Atlantic to the Pacific put millions of people on marches in big cities and little towns hardly so big to be noticed when flying over them.
Every Main Street in America had white faces marching in support of MLK. It was impressive shit and it calmed everyone’s asses down. Because of it violence did not grip the land. It was not an impulsive reaction at all. It was the result of deep commitment.
Sometimes this earth is a very good place.
I have a dream becomes we have a nightmare on main street.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6894071/Two-men-wield-giant-machetes-square-shoppers-Newcastle-city-cen…
Holy Shit!
What a dystopic 3rd world crapole GB is turning into.
Yes, guns are banned, but what about machetes, and vats of acid that are thrown into people’s faces on the streets of Londontown?
Consider that, CFNers, vats of skin eating acid, in London, a practice brought in from C Asia.
Is the West dead?
Brh
brh
Could you post a photo of one of these ‘vats’ of which you speak? So that I can ‘consider’ it?
Vat or pint, does that matter, if one has ones face seared?
Green Alba is nailing me on semantics.
A Scottish edition of Q?
Brh
Only because you said it already on a previous thread, brh, and I said nothing. A vat, though!
The fad (which it unfortunately is, in the way that copycat crimes are a thing these days) is hideous. It seems to be mostly done by young men stealing mopeds from vulnerable delivery workers – disabling the moped driver to make a quick getaway with the moped.
However, I did explain to you some time ago that while the acid-throwing thing is more common in e.g. India, where it’s often used to ‘punish’, for example, a woman who doesn’t want to marry you or who just doesn’t want to go out with you any more, it existed in the underbelly of Victorian London, among the entirely white, principally because it was cheap and easy to obtain.
You have already responded in ‘oh quelle horreur, what kind of country is that you live in?’ fashion on this point, brh, so you don’t need to do that bit again about the Victorians. I imagine the numbers of people involved were extremely tiny. And we didn’t hang people from trees so much, as they did in er…some other countries, so you know…swings and roundabouts.
“What a dystopic 3rd world crapole GB is turning into.”
You really should visit, brh. If you can cope with the Muslim-infested horrors of continental Europe, as you will later this year, you really could manage it. I do hope you get home unscathed, though!
The UK is a lot less scary than Hartford, CT, from what I hear 🙂 . Quiet as the grave outside my window tonight (and every other night, bar some occasional partying students letting some music leak from their windows into the street) and I’m only a stone’s throw from the city centre. Yep, I’ll stick with GB, thanks.
Which asian infiltrator saw fit to buy 100kgs of the stuff off Alibaba not realizing 100g would do the job?
“Which asian infiltrator saw fit to buy 100kgs of the stuff off Alibaba not realizing 100g would do the job?”
Don’t know, Snacks. Asians make up 6% of the perpetrators of acid attacks, so it’s probably not the most relevant issue.
Six percent of the acid attacks in the UK (or London), that is.
An honest mistake, Lil Debbie. They meant to purchase one of these:
amazon.com/Passion-Lubes-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant/dp/B005MR3IVO?th=1
I mean, who among us hasn’t?
Brits like to call Americans violent, but out of all the Western countries I have visited or lived in, the UK is just as bad, if not worse.
London remains the only city I have visited where on a Saturday night at just 7 p.m., there must have been 15 different bloodied up locals laying in a heap outside of 7-8 various pubs we passed.
Scotland wasn’t much better. Still remember some drunken pub urchin trying to start a fight as I merely walked by carrying my 2-year old son.
swings and roundabouts. – Greenie
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When children play at the park, their time on the swings for unexpected reasons may be curtailed so they are allowed extra time on the roundabouts. So what they lost on the swings they gained on the roundabouts.
English English is such a rich language!
Nightowl
“London remains the only city I have visited where on a Saturday night at just 7 p.m., there must have been 15 different bloodied up locals laying in a heap outside of 7-8 various pubs we passed.”
If you were in the UK they were ‘lying’, not ‘laying’. Hens lay in the UK 🙂 .
But perhaps I’m misunderstanding and they were doing a bit of communal incubating!
nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime
Murder rates generally four times the number in the UK.
But yes, drunken louts outside pubs are a pain. Never had to witness any in person in my entire life, thankfully – only seen them on telly.
Green,
Thanks for pointing out my typo. I’d mention your inability to use a comma correctly, but that might be perceived as petty and in no way related to the fact that the UK is a violent surveillance state built on hustling. 🙂
Nightowl
“Thanks for pointing out my typo.”
It never occurred to me that it was a typo. It seems to be standard US usage – I see it often on here. Bob Dylan seemed partial to its use as well, when addressing the odd lady friend in song. Or perhaps he was addressing a pet hen and anxious for eggs for breakfast 🙂 .
I’m happy with my comma in that sentence. I could have added another, but I try not to overdo it. English isn’t as pedantic as German in the matter. I used to be proficient in German comma use, but have lost the habit, along with the vocabulary. I even use the Oxford comma now, which I didn’t like in the past but now find to be useful. Although I still don’t use a comma routinely before the last item in a list, as American English does.
‘… the fact that the UK is a violent surveillance state built on hustling. ?”
I guess (acquired Americanism) if you say it’s a fact, then it’s a fact…
That superfluous question mark is entirely clumsy finger syndrome.
And I wouldn’t have picked you up on a typo. I try not to do that unless there is some humour involved. I was just having some tomahto/tomayto fun.
After all, I let Janos away all the time with writing ‘lead’ when he means ‘led’.
See what I did there? 🙂
Young fools of whom some know better now. If Black had revolted, they would have been crushed. It might have been the best. Let the boil be lanced. It’s bigger now, much bigger, including the Brown masses. And the People behind the last go where never really punished. Bill Ayers still stalks the Halls of Power, does he not?
youtube.com/watch?v=RbRqSasivMk
I suspect Bill Ayers works for the same people now that he served back then. Their agenda is patient, long-term, and adjustable.
The problem is still the same as always. You State MLK was upset by the lack of motivation of the White middle class. Again we hear a Black leader wanting someone to hand stuff to the Blacks. Gimme culture stems from such rhetoric and the leaders just give license to it.
Blacks need to go get what they want, not wait for some bureaucrat to hand It to them.
The number one and two enemies of the rise of Blacks in this country are Democrat gimme artists and the illegal immigration they are promoting. Both are aimed at Black jugulars..
Waiting to hear Elrond “unpack” the rest of it. Calling Ta-nehisi Coates.
If you’ve read Ta-nehisi Coates, Tate, then you don’t need me. Maybe you should try reading again?
During the course of my entire life Blacks have been favored via what is called “Affirmative Action”. And the fact that all traditional media favors and promotes Black culture and music as sacrosanct and inevitable. So – I could care less about Black civil rights. They do not have civil rights. They have special rights and preference in all areas of American life. What other group of people gets away with not having to be accountable for anything in life?
Well said. They already got their reparations. Where’s ours? Vote Yang.
Andrew “Print Money” Yang? Lol you crack me up, Janos
The Federal Reserve prints money all day long. Why should Wall Street and corporations get bailouts while ordinary people drown?
They shouldn’t. This won’t end well the way things are going.I know that. I’m just not pro-coup de grace.
youtube.com/watch?v=RbRqSasivMk
Wow poor thing. And how racist! Clearly, from the before and after photos one can only assume she “became” a Black woman so that she could gain lots of weight and not feel guilty about it.
SSL : “What other group of people gets away with not having to be accountable for anything in life?”
The rich of course. Mostly white, and mostly male.
Like Jussie Smollett?
Jussie Smollett appears to be a malign moron and deserves censure, but he’s not in the ‘mostly’ sub-category of the rich, which remains white and male, is he? Like the Masters of the Universe, none of whom have yet gone to jail. Well, the Barings Bank guy did over here, but that was for what he did to Barings, not for anything he did to the country or the financial system.
Alex Jones might be (he of the convenient psychosis) but I don’t know how rich he is.
I hate to break this to you, but the largest beneficiary of affirmative action has been white women. Fact.
@Elrond, so it’s your contention that the “thinking class” doesn’t include blacks? Because that’s what your logic requires for JHK to be wrong.
The Communists (lead by the Tribe) organized and funded the Black revolt against America – even as they did in fallen South Africa.
They can’t help themselves. It’s like asking a Ferengi to ignore the free Federation credits conjured from the holodeck.
That is an incredibly, astonishingly accurate definition of Federal Reserves Notes. +17
Bolsheviks started Communism. Its a collectivist mentality.
Thanks for the post about the woman killed at McDs..I hope the family of hers got mega millions.
Interesting that you know South Africa is controlled by the communist ANC most Americans can’t or won’t make that connection.
The South African bush wars were a lost cause when Hollywood helped over throw the white minority in favor of the communist majority.
Flash forward thirty years and SA has now codified into law the right to evict under pain of death white farmers who fail to comply.
Ah they did not learn from Rhodesia!
Mean while the whites in SA are being rounded up much like Nazi Germany for the easy culling.
The ANC in South Africa are the elite of the Xhosa tribe. Could a coalition of Whites and Zulus overthrow them – if a powerful propaganda campaign shamed the Global Elite to stay out of it?
@Janos
I think a better idea is for western countries to give refuge status to SA that are willing to get out and return to Europe or North America.
“SA has now codified into law the right to evict under pain of death white farmers who fail to comply.”
Could you link to that actual article of law, please, benr. I’m interested, especially in the ‘pain of death’ bit. Thanks.
I’ve tried to find it, but all I got was something about euthanasia in SA.
benr: “SA has now codified into law the right to evict under pain of death white farmers who fail to comply” and
“Mean while the whites in SA are being rounded up much like Nazi Germany for the easy culling.
Utter bullshit.
It’s OK, Majella. Benr is going to provide a genuine link to the article of law from an official government source.
Soon.
Really soon.
@majella Prove me wrong miss utter bullshit oh you can’t and you know why you can’t because I know people from South Africa that have fled the violence and reverse racism!
Julias Malema wants to murder anyone that fights back and since his chilling speech people have been murdered and their wives and children raped and murdered.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5443599/White-South-African-farmers-removed-land.html
telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/03/jacob-zuma-calls-confiscation-white-land-without-compensation/
Or of reading the truth is to difficult for you there is a nice podcast for you.
play.acast.com/s/americanconservativeuniversitypodcast/show-2072-white-farmers-slaughtered-in-south-…
Of course the google brigade has attempted to scrub the data you know to keep people from learning the truth but it is happening and the vote was a landslide and the Constitution is amended!
Just like leftist turds are de-platforming people with views and politics on the right. Just because you don’t know its happening does not mean its not true. How does that affect your world view now?
People in South Africa are being herded into ghettos and we ALL know what eventually happens after that!
politico.eu/article/donald-trump-south-africa-trust-me-white-are-doing-fine/
“White supremacists think farmers here are getting slaughtered. The truth is, life in this country isn’t much different than it was under apartheid.”
“My neighbors said the notion was bonkers. But when I suggested there was a role for white South Africans to speak up and challenge Trump’s notion that whites were being persecuted in South Africa, they demurred. “Why should I even counter something so crazy?” one of them wrote. Crazy is as crazy does, and when countering a lie requires you to speak sentences such as “No, we are not yet being made to wear identifying garments, like the Jews wore in 1938,” you just don’t even go there.”
bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-45336840
“[Katie Hopkins’] comments reflect the growing influence of South Africa’s conservative Afrikaner groups who are conducting global lobbying campaigns to support their message that white farmers are being targeted and killed, that the government is seizing their land, they are being discriminated against by affirmative action programmes and that their language is being sidelined.”
“Between April 2016 and March 2017, 74 people – of all races – were murdered on farms in South Africa, according to police figures, compared to more than 19,000 murders nationwide in the same period.
The BBC has found that there is no reliable data to suggest farmers are at greater risk of being murdered than the average South African.
“On the land question, the government has not yet seized any farms but says it will change the constitution to allow it to expropriate land without compensation, hence the intense lobbying by those linked to farmers.
“The government says this is needed to reverse the forced eviction of black farmers under white minority rule.
Now, I don’t think the forced evictions are a good idea. I’d rather they just left them be to carry on farming and found other ways of improving matters. And I don’t think it will end well for the country as a whole.
But it’s not really my business because I’m not a descendant of any of the black farmers who were forcibly evicted by the white colonialists. Without compensation and with much more likelihood of that ‘on pain of death’ thing happening in all sorts of circumstances.
Your issue has an interesting parallel with a point Janos has made on many occasions, benr, so I’d be interested to hear what you think.
Janos thinks that if an illegal immigrant establishes themselves in the US and their children end up having legal status, that that’s not right and they shouldn’t get to retain any benefit gained by their parents’ illegal entry.
What do you think, benr, with regard to the white colonialists not exactly entering the country and taking over by invitation? How should both sets of children be treated – the same? Differently?
Me, I’m for peace and reconciliation in most circumstances, when that’s possible. But I wouldn’t presume to tell you the children of your illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay, whatever I think about the matter personally. What do you reckon, benr? Compensation? No compensation? Especially if they’ve started up a successful business, for example.
@greenalba
To be frank most people don’t understand that three hundred+ years ago there was no one really living in that part of Africa. The Boers moved in and developed the region then fought the british empire to a stand still.
With their prosperity came the people from North to south.
Much harder to build up and maintain something then it is to come in strip the wealth and let it go to ruin again.
Zimbabwe aka Rhodesia anyone?
“Much harder to build up and maintain something then it is to come in strip the wealth and let it go to ruin again.”
I quite agree. Like I said, I’d rather they left them be to farm. But I don’t think crying wolf with dishonest propaganda is the way to go.
youtube.com/watch?v=51BaJpFdpfY
youtube.com/watch?v=TcNtdHOPfMM
Lauren Southern did interviews with white farmers in South Africa. Here are two links where you can hear the heart-wrenching stories for yourself.
Hope Jim lets the links through.
@greenalba
I did not post the propaganda you did.
BBC is not even close to honest when it comes to what is happening in SA.
Not by a country mile and it is sad that you don’t understand this and actually think you are correct in this discussion.
As I have said I know people who lived it and escaped.
I know people who still have people “living it” trying to escape.
SA has become hell on earth for everyone involved and far worse if you lack melatonin.
It’s not just the BBC, though, is it, benr?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_farm_attacks
Seems the Transvaal Agricultural Union (TAU) and AgriSA confirm the figures, which suggest the number of farm murders has consistently declined. And that, while there are more white farmers, black farm labourers are more likely to be killed.
None of which means SA isn’t a horrendously violent country. But the narrative that white farmers are being disproportionately killed because they’re white does not seem to be upheld by verifiable facts. If the farming organisations themselves don’t agree it’s happening, I’ll go with that – for now.
And the UK has lots of white South Africans, mostly in London, I believe – they don’t tend to be farmers, though, but rather young people and business people who’ve come for all sorts of reasons. But any who feel threatened *because they’re white* are welcome as far as I’m concerned. They would go through the same asylum process as I presume you’d approve for any other asylum seeker.
Shame & failure may be behind it all but what explains the current moonbat behavior of the so-called “thinking class” (or what Eric Hoffer called the non-creative element among the Men of Words) is Power plain & simple. Everyone has this sense of doom that this sucker is going down hard. & thus everyone wants to be in his or her own sweet spot where they will survive the upheaval & subsequent collapse. Naked power without regard to morality or the common good is the only way to get there at this point.
Ironic it is. Mortality has sparked the contemplation of morality in many a man. No Nietzsche about that fact. That fact even gets this dog going and it is a fact not reserved for the thinking stratosphere.
But you claim society in our coming death throes won’t rhyme in a collective way! Where do you get your info?
Let me just say it explains the craziness of our politics & leave it at that. Dishonesty has to accompany the power politics because most people — probably 95% — are non-thinking automatons, at least about the larger issues. They can only respond to the most superficial of messages. So if you can eliminate honest debate, you’ve pretty much won the game.
Preschool education and better schooling for all. This is the best we can do in a racist society to help remedy the damage of slavery now.
Pay for it by cutting the Pentagon budget by 10% and free drug possession incarcerates. That should free up about $100 billion per year.
What society/country is not racist? Name one please.
Preschool where they teach the kids about Transgenderism? Have Trannies come in and read “Heather Has Two Mommies”? Better school where Blacks are automatically passed and their bad behavior winked at?
More of the same in other words, the only change being in the downward direction.
The Last Official Act of Government: Loot the Nation.
Yes, the Elites are very busy on this mission.
Can a Government Corporation own all other corporations?
Yes. Not necessarily literally. But if the corporations act in ways that undermine the country then the government should stop them IMO.
I don’t disagree. The problem I see is the question of who justifies what is and what is not in the country’s best interest. Talk about opening the door to insanity.
Jim,
>>> “The repudiation of this nonsense by chief inquisitor Robert Mueller could not be more absolute, even if he was compelled by reality against his own wishes and instincts to do it. And now, what avenue will all this diseased animus of the thinking class go down in its destructive, shame-fueled frenzy to justify itself?”
It could easily be much more absolute! Release the full report with appendices!
Repudiation of this nonsense? Your pronouncement is premature, seeing as no one has yet seen this almost 400 page report. You are putting a lot of faith in the edict of an openly political and opportunistic partisan hack, to wit AG Barr. You also neglected to mention that some on RM’s team are now voicing opposition to the AG’s “summation” or “non-summation.”
If the report and its conclusions are such nonsense, then why is Trump et al fighting its release tooth, claw and nail? Same question applies to GGG’s tax returns.
We can safely say, that ANY investigation that results in “criminal charges against 37 defendants – including six Trump associates” is not nonsense. You’re a fine wordsmith, but spinning is spinning, no matter how eloquent the printed words.
I cannot fathom your participation and reason for perpetuating this GGG folk hero narrative. You never struck me as a Far Right kind of dude, but I have clearly missed something. I have always picked-up on your annomiosity of ghetto culture and latino immigration, which to a certain extent, I can agree with. However, your total acceptance of the Right Wing culture of the overweight, under educated, blue-collar, tattooed, clown clothes wearing, gun owning, pickem-up truck driving or Harley riding, flag waving, set is baffling. After all, they are not exactly friendly to those of the Jewish faith.
Would you care to enlighten us Jim? As a former member of the thinking class, we’d all be interested why you decided to throw in with the RW GGG sycophants after all these years as a full fledged member of the intelligentsia.
You haven’t gotten yourself tattooed have you? Taken to wearing baseball jerseys and flat brimmed baseball caps, along with oversized “clamdigger” pants? No tooling around in a pickem-up truck replete with gun rack? Tell us it ain’t so Jim! Please.
“You never struck me as a Far Right kind of dude, but I have clearly missed something.”
A confession or an understatement?
A confession that I have clearly missed something non-trivial concerning our host, JHK.
jdhines, you are living proof that JHK uses the term “the thinking class” facetiously.
“It could easily be much more absolute! Release the full report with appendices!
Repudiation of this nonsense? Your pronouncement is premature, seeing as no one has yet seen this almost 400 page report. You are putting a lot of faith in the edict of an openly political and opportunistic partisan hack, to wit AG Barr. You also neglected to mention that some on RM’s team are now voicing opposition to the AG’s “summation” or “non-summation.””
Wow, the farce is strong with this one.
JD, I’m sure it will be released in time, after anything that might be compromising from a legal our intelligence perspective is dealt with.
“However, your total acceptance of the Right Wing culture of the overweight, under educated, blue-collar, tattooed, clown clothes wearing, gun owning, pickem-up truck driving or Harley riding, flag waving, set is baffling. After all, they are not exactly friendly to those of the Jewish faith.”
Please tell me what EXACTLY is so wrong with being blue collar, responsible gun ownership, driving a pick up, and being patriotic? Your xenophobia is astounding, JD.
Hey, I can certainly understand that sentiment, JD. It irks me to no end when highly educated, well intentioned, easily led rubes tell me that electing a crooked liar will better all of our lots in life as well. I’m sick of paying their taxes and I’m sick of every year having my business undermined by a socialist system which only serves to empower the rich. You want progress? Edumacate yourself.
Farmer,
Well, pray tell, how do you like them tariffs? Maybe not you personally, but a lot of your farmer brethren are beating on the debtors prison doors and will be let in soon. Five and six generations of farms will be lost because of your hero, GGG.
How do ya like them apples? But y’all love your GGG and his wall that Old Mexico will pay for, don’t ya? This stuff can be made up… and y’all actually buy it hook line and sinker. Talk about hogwash loving rubes, jeez o’ pete!
“Five and six generations of farms will be lost because of your hero, GGG. ”
It would be helpful to us out here in Central Standard Tribe if you would provide a connection to he who presides in the office of another to the corps that have or are buying up all the farmland.
What is killing me and everyone I talk to about it is taxes, jd.
TAXES
Get that through your thick skull.
Farmer,
So you saved big-time with GGG’s corporate, wealthy 1% tax break with the few crumbs going to working stiffs and small business? Come on Farmer Joe, you are getting hornswoggled by GGG and the rich Republicans. You just like the anti-immigrant hogwash he and his ilk pedal.
Who works in your fields by the way? It wouldn’t be latinos would it? Be honest Joe, at least do that. Sorry that my skull is rather thick.
JD, I don’t pay an income tax because I pay so much in state and local taxes that it all gets written off.
Who works in my fields? Me. Occasionally I will hire a licenced contractor to do work that is being my skill level. And sometimes I hire neighborhood kids to help me with menial projects. All of them get paid well.
The only people hornswoggling me are democrats, jd. I live in a one party state.
JD, do you think I’m too stupid to know what problems I am facing in life?
>>> Five and six generations of farms will be lost because of your hero, GGG.
Um, you’re about five or six generations too late. Family farms have been vanishing for decades for a variety of reasons—none of which have anything to do with Trump.
Corporations took over farming a long time ago. Family farms simply can’t compete—just like Mom&Pop stores can’t compete with Walmart.
The other issue with family farms is the obvious problem of keeping the business in the family when the children aren’t interested.
Ex, you’re right there has been a corporate take over in the agricultural sector in the USA. It happened under Nixon.
>>> “Um, you’re about five or six generations too late. Family farms have been vanishing for decades for a variety of reasons—none of which have anything to do with Trump.”
Wrong yet again, Ex. Trump has a lot to do with tariffs and why don’t you ask the soybean farmers how they like them “beans?”
Also, ask the farmers that are facing bankruptcy due to depressed Trump tariff prices, how they like the family business going under. Yeah, I thought so, LOL.
You are very much like political hack AG Barr… you’ll do and say anything to protect your precious Orange GGG. Nice nutcase leader you’ve got there… maybe your kids will grow up to be just like him… wouldn’t that nice!
JD, you’re not engaging with reality. You need to see a doctor.
Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. Clearly, you will never change course, no matter how much truth is thrown at your thick skull.
Keep watching Rachel. She’ll keep your hatred on course.
Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. – JackStraw
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Jack, you left out two very important words from your quote of Ralph Waldo Emerson. The line begins A foolish consistency…
The more things change, eh? The Spiral goes over that which it has gone over before. Hopefully on higher ground, or is this merely a Two Dimensional one? The Yellow Brick Road to Ozone’s house, to meet the little Man behind the curtain who has no real Gold just the Greenbacks you worship.
You totally lost me with ^this^ one…….
But while we’re chatting, let’s clear up a loose end from yesterday. I simply wrote “sic.” You wrote “why sic?” Well, I thought it couldn’t be plainer……… but apparently not. 400 hundred is not the same as 400.
I was referring to the Asoka Olympics relative to that phrase. You two used to go on and on about it. As Krishna said to Arjuna, We have lived many lives. I remember them all. You do not.
After I blasted you, I realized what you were talking about. Yes, a redundancy on my part. And I did ask, so you weren’t being your usual pain in the ass by offering correction unasked, so my apologies.
Now it’s your turn to admit my role in your Awakening to Racial Consciousness, howsoever dim it may be.
I was referring to the Asoka Olympics relative to that phrase – Janos
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I don’t think so. I think you were talking (in round numbers) how long blacks had/have been in this country.
Thank you for the correction. I wrote it a little too quickly.
Two years of liberal hogwash, 500 people interviewed, thousands of interviews by a group comprised of Democratic lackeys, grand jury involvement and the combination could not find one thing that the Trump group did to collude with Russia.
However, side B of the record is about to play as the Democratic collusion with Russia is about to emerge. The next two years should be fun.
It’s time to move past Trump and your hatred for the right side of the political spectrum. You need a growth spurt. You need to be pushed above and beyond left/right. There are glimmers of light in there and I know it is totally possible. Just remember, the boogey man doesn’t care about politics really. He just uses politics to get what he wants.
Central Standard Tribe [tm] will own the middle three hundred miles between south chihuahua to northern sasquatch haven. a new mountain range in which we will own the passes. Don’t be particulate.
>>> You never struck me as a Far Right kind of dude, but I have clearly missed something.
You have. Or do you believe that JHK’s GGG moniker is something the far right uses to describe Trump?
You’re so rabidly partisan and anti-Trump that you can’t see beyond it to a discussion of poor policy irrespective of ideology.
>>> “Or do you believe that JHK’s GGG moniker is something the far right uses to describe Trump?”
As of late, our host has taken to referring to his Orangeness as Mr. Trump, if you can imagine. Jim always claims he is no fan of GGG, just trying to set straight the wrongs committed against this honest, gentle soul (said with sincerity).
Please excuse me for puking, but I know and you know, because EVERYBODY knows, the DJT is a shit, pure and simple. He is a cheater, a liar, a narcissist and all the rest, but you all are well aware of that. You just choose to look the other way and defend the crazy, sick, pussy grabbing creep.
You know, it says a lot more about who you people are than it says about Trump. He’s a shit and he knows he is. You people cover for a shit and become shit, but you know better. Well, enjoy the nutcase while you can, as his type never lasts long in office.
Small, little, shitty men never prosper in the end, but you know that. Enjoy your little bit of time in the sun, as soon it’s back to the shadows where you belong with the whole lot of you.
Did you see how Mussolini’s granddaughter was so outraged at the treatment of her grandfather by artist Jim Carrey? Not many people came to his defense, did they? It’ll be the same with his Orangeness going down as the loonest, chaotic, misguided, unhinged president in history. Keep tuned into your BS Fox Noise and keep lapping the drivel up. You deserve it.
Whoa! Now that’s the kind of rant one expects from the unhinged Left. Points for staying true to form!
Trump wasn’t elected for his virtuousity; he was elected for his leadership—his policies.
Where is this mythical virtuous philosopher poet-President you seem to feel is the norm? Pussy grabbing? You mean like when the Left’s hero—JFK—was pussy grabbing before, during, and after Jackie’s pregnancies? Or do you mean Clinton’s sexscapades in the Oval Office? Please link to where you expressed moral outrage over these leaders. No link? Thought so.
Keep drinking the hogwash flavored kool-aid EX as you love it. Trump a leader now that is funny! He is pathetic and his sycophants are more pathetic. Terribly misguided. Enjoy your loser, nutcase while you can. LOL!
Do you have an argument that isn’t just name calling?
No, what I mean is unwelcome, intrusive advances by a rich, uncouth and vulgar creep. JFK never had any problem attracting hotties. As for Clinton, I don’t believe he was reaching up unwilling ladies skirts or grouping them as has been alleged by GGG. He himself said, but then he lies, as you know…
“I’m automatically attracted to beautiful women — I just start kissing them, it’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything,” he said in the 2005 conversation. “Grab ’em by the pussy.”
I suppose since it’s the great Orange GGG you wouldn’t mind if he “felt up your wife or daughter, eh?” I would mind bigly, no matter who did it. No passes because your a white, rich, famous, right wing arsehole, unlike the “passes” you guys hand out.
Farmer, Are GGG own words enough of an argument for you or is that still name calling. He’s your pervert, enjoy him while you can and keep your wives and daughters away from those wandering, tiny, little hands of his. He can’t help himself, remember…
Jesus, what a mess you rubes have wrought. Can you understand why folks don’t want dipshits voting?
I know you hate reading and research, JD. Your mind’s made up and facts don’t matter. Consider this:
“Bill Clinton, not unlike other president who preceded him, was a reputed philanderer before and during his stay at the White House. The person remarkably absent from Trump’s pre-debate press conference and debate performance was Monica Lewinsky. She became sexually involved with Clinton in 1995 as a 22-year-old White House intern; in 1996, while working at the Pentagon, she revealed her sordid tale to a co-worker, Linda Tripp, who secretly recorded the conversations and gave the tapes to Kenneth Starr, the Independent Counsel investigating Clinton regarding unrelated matters. Pressed on his relation with Lewinsky, Clinton infamously claimed, “It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.”
One of Clinton’s earliest reported incidents of sexual abuse involved Juanita Broaddrick who claimed that, in 1978 while manager of an Arkansas nursing home, he raped her in a hotel room. However, she later signed a sworn affidavit that read in part:
During the 1992 Presidential campaign there were unfounded rumors and stories circulated that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies. Newspaper and tabloid reporters hounded me and my family, seeking corroboration of these tales. I repeatedly denied the allegations and requested that my family’s privacy be respected. These allegations are untrue and I had hoped that they would no longer haunt me, or cause further disruption to my family.
In 1992, as Clinton was running for president, Jennifer Flowers, an Arkansas state employee and cabaret singer, publicly stated that she had had a 12-year relationship with him. Bill and Hillary Clinton appeared on 60 Minutes following the Super Bowl to rebut Flowers’ claims only to be undercut by Flowers who played a secretly-recorded tapes of incriminating phone calls she had with Clinton. According to The Washington Post, Clinton “reportedly acknowledged” the affair with Flowers in a 1998 deposition regarding a sexual harassment lawsuit brought by Paula Jones.
In 1994, Jones, an Arkansas state worker, accused Clinton of making an unwanted sexual advance. Clinton ultimately made an out-of-court payment of $850,000 to settle with Jones without admitting guilt.
In 1998, Kathleen Willey appeared on 60 Minutes and said that in 1993 she was a Clinton supporter and a volunteer at the White House. She claimed that when she met the president to ask for a paid position, he made unwanted sexual advances on her, including kissing her, groping her breast and placing her hand on his genitals; Clinton denied her allegations in a deposition relating to the Jones case.
Three other and — less know — incidents of Clinton’s reputed misogynistic encounters with women have come to light. Eileen Wellstone, a 19-year old Oxford student, filed a sexual assault complaint against Clinton in 1969; in 1991, Connie Hamzy claimed that Clinton, the then-Arkansas governor, had propositioned her in 1984; and Cristy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton’s campaign plane during his 1992 presidential run, claims that he groped her on the jet.
Sadly, the claims long raised regarding Bill Clinton’s sexual conduct seem not so dissimilar to the charges by women coming out almost daily about Trump’s sexual mistreatment.”
counterpunch.org/2016/10/20/was-bill-clinton-the-most-sexist-president/
Here’s another Jesus quote for your education in Christianity:
“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
The brain has a right and left too. Perhaps you’re ignoring half of reality there, big guy?
The right, fixed, rigid, authoritarian, scary, intolerant side? Let me see….. uh, no, I don’t think so at all, but thanks for the guidance.
Loud, obnoxious, arrogant…jdhines you fit the stereotype of ‘Ugly American.’
Relax Farmer joe JD is simply trolling you.
No one is really as patently stupid as that one appears to be.
Well maybe one of them is.
Ben,
Not trolling at all. Just trying to help a poor lost rube come out of the ether and stop being made a fool of by the Republican Far Right. I am merely trying to be of service.
Allow me to let you in on a little secret. While the Dems are not your friends, the Repubs sure as hell aren’t your friends either. Maybe y’all should wise and layoff the Kool Aid.
The Dems and Repubs are part of the same “Uniparty” and neither has your best interests at heart. They both want power and bigger government. The Ds favor social programs and the Rs favor the military and the wealthy, so unless you are worth $25 mil and above, the Rs are not your safest bet (ceteris paribus).
At least with the Ds, the stock market does better and the wealth is spread around a bit and the wealthy pay more of the fair share in taxes. The Ds are far from ideal, but compared to the GOP, they are golden. Please wake up.
Please I live in Southern California and know full well the Socialist crap your peddling!
I also am keenly aware that neither party is entirely friendly but from my vantage point the Dems are conducting a fire sale and have been for thirty years.
We get rapid insolvency and crime from them in short order.
In California the roads are falling apart illegal aliens running amok never held to the same laws as we the blood blags those of us to be squeezed when more money is needed for some insane social program. I have traveled all over South America, Europe and Africa and seen what they are living with and want none of it.
In short the DEMOCRATS are doing to us what has been to Argentina and now Venezuela…No thanks life is tough enough.
I see through what you are peddling and wonder what sock puppet you work for!
I also wonder if jd is a sock puppet.
Here in Washington state we have the most regressive tax policies in the nation. I know regressive is too big of a word for you to understand, and you don’t like books so won’t look it up. Regressive means the poor pay a high percentage of their income in taxes and the rich pay a small percentage. Sure you can argue that it’s all going to social spending. Unfortunately that money is used flagrantly (unwisely, big words, I know). Then they insist on more tax revenue from those who can not afford to pay. Where is the social justice in that, JD? Tell me how that makes sense and why I should be in support of it, PLEASE!!!
No Ben, I know that you prefer, Right Wing Crap don’t you? Well, belly up to the trough as they are serving up plenty of hogwash for ya. Enjoy it while it’s flowing, eat your fill…..
Once again his feeble mind, incapable of formatting a reasonable, fact based response, resorted to expelling drivel.
For G_d’s Sake Farmer Joe, you make me sound like GGG. That is a too harsh, don’t ya think? Nobody is that arrogant, loud and obnoxious, except of course, His Orangeness. Really, that is too much, yeah.
You’re the pot calling the kettle black.
My mom, the family therapist with a master’s degree in psychology, is fond of saying,
“We hate in others the things we hate about ourselves that we don’t want to acknowledge.”
I sincerely hope that helps you, JD.
Thanks, but it doesn’t help me… I’ll be helped with the arsehole you rubes saddled this country with is out of office. That will help me cupcake.
JD, I’m not just saying this to be a jerk. I seriously think you have a psychological disorder. Narcissism, maybe. You should talk to a specialist.
I didn’t vote for him. Stop calling me names,
>>> “JD, I’m not just saying this to be a jerk. I seriously think you have a psychological disorder. Narcissism, maybe. You should talk to a specialist.”
Thanks, I’ll take that under advisement.
>>> “I didn’t vote for him. Stop calling me names”
You are a GGG supporter, that is bad enough and thus deserving of names, rube. Besides your hero, Orange one is really good with name calling… I thought y’all liked the name game, no?
See a doctor.
So as another poster noted, Daniel Patrick Moynihan created quite a stir back in 1965 when he issued his famous treatise on the worrisome state of the black family in the US. From what I’ve learned, the US government then made all the wrong moves in response to this.
The illegitimacy rate in blacks is now somewhere around 80% in the US which is just staggering. Most black kids are growing up without dads in their lives. The results of this are pretty clear. It’s not cool to say this of course but kids need their moms and their dads and do best in 2 parent families.
The US government, by creating AFDC and al the other benefit programs did their level best to ensure that black families were headed by women and no men were present.
Really dishonest people who use statistics in order to mislead like to say that more white kids than black kids live in single parent family homes except that blacks are only 13% of the US population. The same thing applies to receiving other government benefits.
So now for generations we’ve been busing black kids to white schools and using affirmative action to get them into colleges but to what result?
In NYC theyr’e going nuts as the top exam schools such as Stuyvesant are now heavily Asian and only a handful of blacks get accepted. Exams are racial bias free but they all “know” this is racist. The mayor’s idea is to “fix” this by accepting the top students from different Junior High Schools which would mean that even if students didn’t have the grades or preparation to attend and do well they would still get accepted. This would then make everyone(except for all the now rejected high scoring Asian kids) feel better as the schools will have the “correct” percentage of blacks and Hispanics. How they will do if they lack the ability or know-how to actually do the work required of them at a school like Stuyvesant isn’t clear but I’m pretty sure it won’t end well.
So what’s the answer? I’m pretty sure it’s not more handouts, in the form of “reparations” as Beto suggests(can we say pandering to get the black vote anyone?). I don’t think the answer is more affirmative action or lowering standards for blacks. I guess I must be a racist or something but I do believe that personal responsibility, providing a stable family structure, getting married before having babies and being able to support the babies one has is a must. Raising kids to care about education, use proper English and stay away from crime and drugs is another biggie in my book. But I’m hopelessly old-fashioned.
I think that as liberals clearly have lower levels of expectations for blacks which is why they always want to “help them” and lower the standards for them, they are the real racists.
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Exams are racial bias free but they all “know” this is racist.
CLASSIC SPIN BY THE ‘DOCTORS.’
The country is too hopelessly divided and controlled by deceptive narratives to have the outcomes that you wish to see unfold as such. A multicultural nation cannot and will not survive.
Correct. There is no answer. IQ is largely genetic and Blacks just don’t have it. Just as East Asians seldom have the size and muscle for pro-sports. Whites are in the middle, but closer to the East Asians, thank God. Primitive White Women are attracted to macho Black Men. Thus they make their choice and they and their offspring are Other who will be utterly othered when Our time comes.
Just as East Asians just don’t have the size and muscle for pro-sports–even with steroids..but chemistry is advancing.
I read the tale of a guy at the Os..he wondered what women were doing poolside for a women’s swim tournament.
As he got closer, he saw they were women, on pills. East Germans..one gal said she had been growing a mustache
so she stopped what her coach called ‘vitamins.’
But Janos. Jews test out as having the highest IQ’s of any group. You still obviously hate Jews. What’s the deal?
There’s more to life than IQ. Just as you folks don’t automatically like Whites who have high IQ – not if they don’t support your Agenda and Israel.
“There’s more to life than IQ.”
And yet, so often there doesn’t seem to be when you weaponise it yourself. Endlessly.
Sometimes, in order to solve the most complex problem, one has to pull the simplest (in the sense of not too entangled) thread.
The critical problem here is the crisis of the scientific method, and the simplest thread is English 101 course in American colleges, or rather, that the American intelligentsia really supported Hillary Clinton, and the Russian intelligentsia has so far resisted and a pro-Clinton station Echo of Moscow has very few listeners.
This was the result of the fact that in Russia we got what the trick was back in 1982 and despite the geopolitical catastrophe, which entered its final stage around this time, the immune system of the society still managed to activate.
The Multiple-Choice test system is part of the brainwashing system, which leads to the political crisis of Hillary-Adolf.
But in Russia, it still did not work because of the fact that it operated in the USA since 1947, and no one noticed anything until it gave a full effect in 2015.
By the way, something sobering is starting to happen in America, and one of the political commentators (by the way, the radical anti-Trump commentator) said that the reason for the victory of Donald Trump is that under the wise leadership of Hillary Clinton the Democratic Party lost its social base and turned into a party of Beyonce and Barbara Streisand.
To the point that one of the most popular Democratic leaders Bernie Sanders is not even a member of the Democratic Party.
Did you notice how Hillary all the time says that Trump is supported by dark, uneducated people? And there is a certain truth in this, despite the fact that Trump is supported by almost all Nobel America, except for Nobel Prize in literature.
The fact is that university students from the mid-80s in the first year, when their thinking has not yet been formed, are exposed to a powerful ideological influence on English 101 lessons.
The main lure of this influence (or if you prefer this hook) is the introduction of yesterday’s schoolchildren from the American heartland to a complete ideological poison about their belonging to a special caste, first as Americans, then as educated Americans, then as members of all kinds of student fraternities, and then …
Well, then the claw principle begins to work – one claw stuck, the whole bird perish.
Ok, the whole bird is gone, and by the end of the college they will turn into a kind of zombie, unable to resist the Clinton propaganda, forcing people to vote for a frank criminal, compared to which even Catherine de Medici looks like a “white queen”.
“The problems change, but fundamentally the qualities needed to face them in the average citizen are the same. Our…highly complex…civilization has produced problems. We need to face these problems and…exercise all our ingenuity in trying to devise some effective solution, but the only way in which that solution can be applied is the old way of bringing honesty, courage, and commonsense to bear upon it.”….Theodore Roosevelt, October 25, 1905.
There is nothing new under the Sun.
Elrond you’re over generalizing again. Something all Canadians do. (Yes, that was irony). Some “white moderates” may not have supported King, but a lot of white liberals did.
I was born in 1955 and my political awareness began around election night 1960 when the bastards pre-empted my evening cartoons. I also remember wondering how my parents could belong to a church led by a loud, scary, black man. We were Lutherans and I thought Martin Luther King was our founder.
Look in newspapers, history books, etc There were a lot of the kind of people some disdainfully called “New York Jews’ at his side.
If you have not already done so, click on EH’s name and visit whatever it is that it takes you to. It will answer many questions and give a greater understanding on what it is we are dealing with here.
I’m a few years younger than you are, hmuller, so my experience came when Ronald Reagan was shot. News coverage pre-empted the broadcast of It’s the Easter Bunny, Charlie Brown or some such, and I was very disappointed. The struggle is real.
Anyway, my point was not to generalize but to point out specifically how JHK misattributes the agency behind the civil rights movement. It was not something cooked up by the “thinking classes”, but very much a case of African Americans stepping up and demanding their full birthright as American citizens. Many who supported them were squishy in their support, while a few were more serious, but it was a broad-based popular movement where African-Americans themselves were in the driver’s seat.
The “thinking classes” don’t come into the story until quite a bit later, namely post-Reagan when the Democratic party consciously decided to abandon its traditional support of working people. That’s when the Dems took up identity politics and appropriated the imagery, but not the substance, of the civil rights movement. They did this to cover the fact that they were no longer in the business of looking after the interests of ordinary Americans more generally.
The 2016 election was when that strategy totally ran out of gas. It remains to be seen whether the Dems will return to their roots, led by the obvious candidate Bernie Sanders, or if they’re so determined to double down on failure that they hand Trump a second term.
What I cannot seem to understand is that having read through your own blog, it would seem to me that you cannot stand our host, his writings, or any of us that stand by him. Ok, you are entitled. Why you have been coming here for so long and bashing it all is beyond me. I understand that just because when I find a place distasteful I avoid it and leave quietly it does not mean that everyone has to do the same. But I always question the agenda of individuals that seem to get their jollies from demeaning others. To me at least, it indicates a dark unsettled pathos. But that’s just me.
Elrond is a preacher of sorts with moral causes to support and purvey. Like all of us really. He therefore has no reason to stay in spaces of believers. It is his duty to minister to unbelievers.
As in Elrond’s Witnesses?
Exactly! Coming to a blog near you :-).
Were there not many urban and trend-setting Whites and Jews that seeded and supported the Black Civil Rights movement? It has become a special rights movement by the way.
>>> It remains to be seen whether the Dems will return to their roots
Does it remain to be seen? Do you see any evidence that Dems are pivoting away from identity politics?
Bernie Sanders is the Original Socialist™ (before the likes of AOC). But the Dems of yore were not socialists. Nor were they progressives. They were classical liberals. They were not attempting to create equality-of-outcome irrespective of circumstance or merit. And when they fought for rights, it was always EQUAL rights. Not INSERT-YOUR-IDENTITY rights, which are really privileges that go beyond equal rights.
Dems will return to their roots, led by the obvious candidate Bernie Sanders, – Elrond
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Haha, yes, by all means, the Dems should run Bernie. He turns 79 two months before the election and will be set up perfectly to have a stroke on Monday before election Tuesday.
Martin Luther King is worshiped as a God by White America. But still it not enough for Elrond! The only way we can satisfy his kind and the Black radicals is to Disappear and Die.
The Western Palestinians?
“The choice made by the “experts” the past ten years is obvious: pump the financial markets at all costs by using dishonest policy interventions which they are smart enough to know will eventually blow up the banking system.”
Not just ten years. The ante was the New Deal, the big raise was The Great Society, and when Nixon closed the gold window we were all in. Anything since then has been like spinning the helm on the Titanic after the collision with the iceberg was inevitable.
“They did it to preserve their reputations long enough to retire out of their jobs.”
Exactly.
“The trouble is that the damage is now so extreme that when the time comes for them to apologize it will not be enough. They will lose their freedom and perhaps their heads.”
It’s called holding the bag, but most of them deserve it – if they get it.
Whether its the “thinking class” or the “working class”… they both suck.
I fear the oligarchs, and I fear the proles.
America is one big rotten orchard, with a few good apples scattered around across the different socioeconomic strata.
Wise you are.
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As we used to say when we were 10.
“The primary information organs of the thinking class — The New York Times, The WashPo, CNN, MSNBC ”
If this is true Jim, and we have replaced our own primary information organ (our own mental abilities) then we are doomed. One of your primary messages here has always been to cast off these worthless rags and think for ourselves and I applaud you for that wisdom. Americans had better start thinking again or be forever lost.
The neuroticism and dishonesty of our “higher education and medicine systems” and their decay into the disgraceful rackets that they have become says it all so well, at least for those of us that have been around long enough to have witnessed it first hand. I do not know what it was like in other places but here in the late 1970’s, there were more insurance salesmen and security guards with teaching degrees than you could shake a stick at. The disconnect between our “educational” process and the needs of the workplace was big then, but has only gotten bigger today and at such a cost, oi!
Of course the medical folks had an even bigger motivator using the fear of death to enrich themselves, but they have added so many tools through technology to their bag of tricks that bilking the general public out of their paychecks now child’s play.
The bad news is that in the end it is all Trump’s fault, apparently. The good news is that whoever or whatever replaces him shall bring hope and change, right? Yeah, that’s the ticket, hope and change, oh boy.
The USA needs to embrace the “nationalist” trend and disunite into smaller and more manageable states, and dare I say, nations.
Not nationalism per se, but decentralized governance. The federal government has become a menace by its ineffectual mediation alone. A popularity contest out on the margin issue tightropes and out of touch with the many and varied needs of a very un-united populace.
One class of supposed high-priests all ordained in the same echo chambers of universities, cities, and socioeconomic class (at least culturally if not monetarily) cannot dictate let alone speak for everyone.
Some of us want borders, want religion, want guns, want trans-bathrooms, want sanctuary states, want an elite ruling class, want localism, want grassroots, want authenticity, want environmentalism, want less capitalism, want less war, want, want, want.. many different things.
The only thing uniting this sh*thole is acrimony.
Interestingly, that “Regionalism” where every community gets Delphi Tactic-ed into voting for Agenda 2030, is what our Owners want too. Sustainably.
Quite right. I think it will have to come to that. Divide the place up and let people live the way they want. Way too much acrimony and I don’t see it getting any better. We should have let the South go when they wanted to back in the 1800’s.
The Union was preserved, but look at the cost. At a minimum, we need a Blue America and a Red ‘Merca and never the twain shall meet, ‘cept for a little trading maybe.
THANK YOU! You should have let us go. But no, that was not enough for you that you destroyed us. You had to occupy and take over as well. Where are my reparations?
Now, if you would like to trade we can talk.
Don’t you love the line-drawing-game?
You also commented a few threads back that you were more impressed by a nation that was made up of people related by blood. Is this the case? Because I know at one point you said you did not believe that race was any issue that needed to be considered. You seem to be settled that separate countries are better when it comes to social issues/politics. Do you feel the same way about race?
Quite possibly SSL, I’d have to think about that a bit more. But is it possible, practical? I don’t really know.
Well the question was directed at Avatar but I am glad you noticed it and took it to heart. You should search your soul on this question. It is very possible. It is our duty to make it practical. Consider it and meditate on it. Don’t think of it as zero-sum. We like diversity. But we also believe all things have a place in the web of life, and in the world.
For G_d’s Sake Farmer Joe, you make me sound like GGG. That is a too harsh, don’t ya think? Nobody is that arrogant, loud and obnoxious, except of course, His Orangeness. Really, that is too much, yeah.
SSL, Sorry for responding for our friend Avatar, but I’ll take your second comment under advisement.
PS I don’t know how Farmer Joe’s response ended up below. We’ll have to take it up with JHK’s IT department I suppose.
Sufficient unto the day is the *bs* thereof.
My favorite Jesus line, lol. Love the amendment.
Regarding unity in the country, I saw where Motel 6 is forced to pay 16 million to the state of Washington for giving ICE information about motel guests that led to them being arrested for being here illegally.
Whoa! Don’t federal laws overtake state laws? Why isn’t Trump’s Attorney General reading the riot act to Washington state. It seems like a caffe latte Fort Sumter here in true NW style, and if unchallenged, this will show a further, gradual unraveling of national unity and control.
As it is, there is only a third of Americans who relate to the old state in any way…those whites and a smattering of minorities who people the small towns, join the military, do the sports thing.
It’s obvious the deep state wants to destroy patriotism and the concept of citizenship. As someone said, to them, patriotism is a pathology.
Same with all those little local shops and stores now gone or nearly extinct. They are the enemy, as JHK showed in Home From Nowhere.
As for JDHines comments on how great socialism is in Europe, he has a point, but remember so much of the social peace there is kept by paying off segments of the population to go along with leftist programs. The real problem will be when, say the hordes of muslims and other invaders start to strain the social budgets, and eventually, you can’t keep bribing people. When they demand more then their share of the pie, things will become extreme, unless Europe does the Jean Respail route and just die.
Elrond Hubbard remarks how the Civil Rights movement was formed by blacks, but remember, the head of the NAACP for almost most of its inception was a Jew. This only came to an end recently. Not to bang an antisemitic drum here, but that is the fact. A coalition of types got black civil rights going, and the tension in the liberal community is that blacks want everybody out except them, and they, as well as the Democrats and progressives, are openly anti-white. Whether you like it or not, a race war is simmering…more a microwave then an open fire.
To recall what George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi Party said, ‘a National Socialist cares about his race. A conservative cares about his money.’
So much of the ‘conservative’ leadership cares about their own little mansion and nothing else, and JHK noted this mentality in the creation of the mansion class and these estates and exclusive suburbs, remarking how much of American social thought has been on escaping citizenship and instead opting for an isolated existence.
Norman Podhoretz recalled how, as a Jew, he was expected to support blacks and see them as equals, but as a child, they always brutalized him in school, stole, were rude, and yet nothing was done about their behavior. And with so much of the progressive worldview now official policy (of the deep state), nonwhites understand they have a fool’s license to do as they please.
It’s interesting how Trump is very pro-Israel, yet many Jews detest him, and I wonder how that will end.
And Trump, for all his faults (which I’m more then willing to overlook), is more acceptable then a snake like Romney or Jeb Bush.
When I was involved with the left, I noted a strange affinity leftist radicals and extremely wealthy corporate types had with each other, and how both despise the bourgeoise.
meargen, you raise many intriguing ideas.
Meargen, You reminded me of a disturbing one hour documentary I saw on YouTube entitled “Seattle is Dying”. It shows how homeless people (drug addled and mentally ill) are allowed to camp out wherever they want by a “liberal” city government. This is making life very unpleasant for those who pay the taxes and do the work which makes a civilization function. youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw
USA in 1970–how many hobos?
Now USA has homeless, in the millions.
Great post. Well yes, someone funded the Communists. I mean propaganda aside, peasants with pitchforks and workers with hammers get nowhere against Secret Police backed by the Army. Thus the special relationship. Ditto the French Revolution, funded from England via the Masonic brotherhoods.
The Jews are disunited about Trump but largely united about Israel and their ongoing special status anywhere and everywhere. It will continue until non-Jews refuse to countenance it anymore.
I wish you would learn to differentiate between Israelites and Judahites. Saxons need not be Benjamites.
A fascination theological theory, but it doesn’t square with much of secular knowledge. Whites were in Europe long before any such migration of Israelites. But I admit many of the old Worthies believes some variant of this, since it was taught by the early Monk Scholars.
But you don’t seem to think we have many rights because of it. Rather that we should just be servants of those dark races. I make a big distinction between serving from a position of Strength and being a fucking mule used and beaten by savages.
We didn’t get the distinction when we were Masters of the World and we still don’t get it now. And I don’t think you get it either. We were always reacting against Whites who were comfortable being exploiters and we still are.
But those who worry too much about others will lose the battle for Life. I mean if we cared all that much, we could have never taken North and South America from the Indians. This “little” fact doesn’t interest you – so I don’t trust you because it’s the distinction between Life and Death.
@ meargen
It’s very interesting(and scary) to observe how many US Jews demonize Trump who has been the most supportive US President in a while now of Israel. Remains to be seen how it will continue to play out but so far so good. US liberal Jews fall all over themselves to support Democrats and Progressives who are really antisemitic. So many Jews voted for and continue to support Rep Omar; insane.
And US Jews continue to support blacks who have turned on them in recent decades.The NYT doesn’t like to focus on this but much of the violence being directed against Jews in NYC is by blacks. This is not even debatable as they have been caught on video, seen by many eyewitnesses etc.Young black guys brutally beating up innocent Orthodox Jews just walking down the street. But they prefer to cast Trump supporters and MAGA hat wearers as the anti-Semites and the stupid Jewish liberals go along with this farce.
meargen: “Not to bang an antisemitic drum here…”
… Pah-rump-a-pum-pum…
Where art thou ‘Ol Scratch? We need you to weigh in on these weight matters!
JDH
“…America’s thinking class …” Surely you jest! Perhaps the Camouflage Class?
America’s Chattering Classes chatter as they’re told. The real thinking class remain lurking anonymously behind the scenes for the last century and like vandals looking for a really nice house to trash, thinks up schemes like this:
//youtu.be/1FRZ3Igh7jU?t=1331
At 22:11 they start to get to the control grid the real thinking class is planning. People will be issued currency at the beginning of the month. If you ran out, tough. If you had extra, currency expired. No savings or investment possible. If you complain or object to your rulers, they cancel your currency at best … and don’t mention the camps or furnaces at worst. The ChiCom Social Credit Beta Testing is well under way, having been almost 50 years in the making.
As much as I admire Mr. Kunstler, he’s drinking the Media Owners’ KoolAid. He’s confusing Chatterers for Thinkers, while discreetly ignoring the real thinkers behind the curtain pulling the levers of the Great and Powerful Oz. Those “Technocratic” Pretend Pscientific Phrauds trying to demolish the existing order and replace it with their Utopia – a Truly New Evil Empire that – if they were really “thinking” – they know cannot possibly be worth living in. So horrific that even the Yello Journo Hearst had to disavow it in the 30’s.
The middle class and flyover destruction? That’s a feature, not a bug. Like literally EVERY other so called “side effect” he wrote about. Things are going exactly as planned. Central Rothschild Banking can only profit by strip mining a country to exhaustion, discarding the husk, moving on to the next, and calling it “Sustainable.” A quarter billion murdered by their own “Men Pretending To Be A Government”s in the Twentieth Century of Death? “Here. Hold my beer.” Technocracy can do 10x as much good in the 21st Century! Sustainably.
And they probably think they can still use their cell phones and drive their Tesla’s in the wreckage. Where’s my ROFLMAO smiley? Camouflage.
IMO one of Mr. Kunstler’s best essays ever.
I won’t comment further on the post, except to call out CBS’ atrocious Scott Pelley on his ruining over the inauguration day coverage, where he even had the audacity to cut away from what the viewer’s tuned in to see, and do an interview between himself and some alleged Russia expert.
Really. Based on nothing at all, but a Trumped-up investigation, the origin of which any real newsman could have discovered were hinky inside of 15 minutes.
Or maybe I should have said 60 Minutes.
It’s good to see that Lara Logan is finally acknowledging what her own network did to her.
The same network that let Les Moonves steal away into the night pretty quietly.
They were seeing Boris and Natasha under every bed, but they couldn’t see the rot from the top down in their own bailiwick?
Once she was assaulted in Egypt, the media seemed to have no use for her anymore. A shame for she was pretty good at what she did.
Anderson Cooper was wandering around that day like it was Woodstock. He’s lucky he didn’t get raped too – merely wacked in the head. An absolutely ridiculous person at best. At worst, he gloated about how his ancestor was killed by his slave. Gays are outside all traditions of family and Nation for the most part. Honorable exceptions exist of course.
He conveniently “outed” himself when the reports came out that he was going to be sacked on account of dismal ratings, and likability (natch)
On a happier note, Don Lemon’s getting married.
Dude popped the question last weekend and Don said yes, without reservation.
Its gonna be a fab wedding, the theme colors lavender and pink.
Brh
test . the Digger blog sent me here?
The Diggers were an interesting and under reported part of the 60’s.
The Kali Flower commune in San Fran.
The question is . . .
Why does the human species so despise its own?
because they have the mental capability to judge
I believe you’ve hit the nail on the head, Avatar. The whole business of judging others, an attitude that came into fashion with the formulation of Mosaic Law. One was guilty even for what one thought; evil, bad.
Before that it was a simple matter, Hammurabi decreed that if someone’s action caused you to lose an eye then you were free to poke out one of his . . . but not more. Let’s not be greedy, now.
One expected and took measures to allow for human stupidity. It was no big deal. You certainly were not going to waste your life hating folks for their proclivities. You just made them pay for it.
Ah, religion! They who taught us self-hate.
Because people naturally gravitate to those more like themselves and keep away from those who are most unlike themselves.
Reparations for slavery would have been easier done when the country was solvent. But should not the lineup first include that harm done to indentured servants and their seven year sentences to all kinds of hell. They were soon followed by native Americans whose history with us is awash in tears. Slaves were a valuable asset and thus protected while ‘Injuns’ were savages bothering us on ‘our rightful lands’. Which the Supremes ruled in 1832 they had no title to because the weren’t Christians. So the survivors of the Indian Wars were off to the concentration camps called Reservations where they languish to this day.
Good point. If we go down this road and want to be honest there will be no end to who could potentially deserve reparations. And we are just one country!
I don’t know Robert, doing it now might help to bring on the only solution possible – collapse!
So why are you still here on stolen ground? Do you really regret our Conquest? If so, you are a liar or a hypocrite. We won and we owe everything we have – including our very existence – to the Conquest and the godly and godlike Conquerors. Praise them and offer oblations to them. And then if you are praying man, pray for their souls.
See what I mean? You’re about as Christian as Genghis Khan.
And you are not Christian at all. You should pluck the log from your eye before you attempt to pull splinters from others’ eyes.
No logic there at all, SSL, but then you’re not obliged to show any in your line of belief 🙂 .
I’m not pretending to be Christian, that would be Janos. He’s the one who needs to show evidence. I think you call it ‘witnessing’ on the evangelical wing.
But in my daily life I’m willing to bet I’m way more ‘Christian’ than he is.
That is a common notion that I hear from agnostics and atheists. The idea that just because you hold religious beliefs you are not obliged to logic and rationality. For me this is somewhat true because logic and rationality are not always supreme in my own opinion. However, faith is logical and rational as well. In fact, if you were to follow what Janos teaches you would see that after all it is very logical and rational. Janos believes in taking care of his People and Tribe before other peoples and tribes. This is very biblical. This includes preserving lands that have come into their possession and honoring those who have sacrificed so much for us. Just a spattering of some relevant verses on the whole matter.
Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name
Deuteronomy 1:21 See, the LORD your God has placed the land before you; go up, take possession, as the LORD, the God of your fathers, has spoken to you. Do not fear or be dismayed.
Psalm 149:6-9 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, And a two-edged sword in their hand, To execute vengeance on the nations And punishment on the peoples, To bind their kings with chains And their nobles with fetters of iron. To execute on them the judgment written; This is an honor for all His godly ones. Praise the LORD!
Someone knows their Bible – and someone else doesn’t. Someone else: Did I ever say the New Testament could stand alone? Or which mainstream Church ever said that? That they merely use it to now to worship the Jews is a sad testament to their degradation. They used it identify AS Israel. Big difference, eh?
I guess I was too busy listening to the good Samaritan.
Regarding your bloodthirsty, self-serving quotes – repulsive.
I’ll stick with reason, humanity and humility, thanks.
Thanks you for your faux humility in admitting you don’t know what you’re talking about anent Christianity.
I’ve read plenty of the bible in my time, Janos, and attended church for decades longer than SSL has even been alive.
You both seem to forget the bloodthirsty, self-serving stuff in the Old Testament was written by human tribes for human tribes. It’s not a complicated concept. Projection. God is made in the image of man, and hence does not embody only man’s best features.
don’t know what you’re talking about anent Christianity. – Janos
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How could I have forgotten anent. It goes into the compendium without need of further discussion or approval.
SSL, you did a great job of quoting the old testament, I’m not picking on you for that, but I do have to side with Alba in this discussion. There was a time when I wanted to be a youth pastor and I spent a lot of time taking college level courses on the bible. My understanding is that Jesus came to undo a lot of the abuses of religion that the Jews were engaging in. How many times did he call the religious leaders of his time hypocrites? What did he say to the rich young ruler, go hoard your stuff and defend it? No! He said sell your possessions and give the money to the poor and follow me. The reason Jesus was betrayed is because he, in the eyes of the Jews, sought to undo them. So when Alba says that Janos is as Christian as Genghis Khan, I have to agree on some level. At the very least it’s fair to say that his beliefs are based on the old testament and not on the new one.
Farmer Joe, for your consideration…
Matthew 5:17-19 (Jesus said)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
My own opinion is that the Old and New Testaments must be taken together as an unfolding revelation. You are correct in saying that Jesus’ message was the undoing of the Pharisees. And yes he did address the importance of charity and the renunciation of materialism. But this in no way abrogates the principals of national defense and preservation that were revealed in the Old Testament.
That’s fair, and a good point about not undoing the law, but fulfilling it. I don’t have a retort.
“…the money spent on social services the past half-century, if simply distributed as cash, would have made every African American a millionaire. ”
Its almost as if Mr. Kunstler is coming around to acknowledge the economic logic of UBI…
A dollar ultimately represents a unit of labor.
After UBI, what will it represent?
Brh
A payoff to not revolt?
The same done by the machines for our benefit. A social credit. If it is NOT paid, then what Walter said.
The “you didn’t build that all by yourself” line of thought is absolutely correct and extremely fruitful. Folks like you who disparage it, do so at the cost of your own ultimate ruin. And folks like Rush and Hannity who encourage you to do so, are False Prophets in this.
And No, this is not an argument for absolute equality or communism. That would not be Justice – but neither is letting the masses die in the cold on the streets you see. Midpoints, BRH, if you can’t see the Apex, you have to see the Midpoint. And if you can’t see it of your own accord, we’ll make you bow to it nonetheless. Both Capitalism and Communism are the War of All against All. Isn’t this a better way?
A carbon credit
Much of this true of his followers as well.
“He is rapidly declining,” Lee, the group’s president, said of Trump in an interview. “His rallies have been increasingly less coherent, with greater signs of paranoid responses, increasing attraction to violence, increasing espousal of conspiracy theories. A few weeks ago, there was the ‘Tim Apple’ episode, and the other day he referred to Venezuela as a company, while recently he confused his father’s birthplace with his grandfather’s.
“His mistakes are growing more and more bizarre,” Lee said. “If we match the pattern of his deterioration against pathology, what disease states look like, we can say he is not well.
“Continually we have been seeing that his erratic thoughts and behavior are more consistent with mental pathology than strategy. Now we are seeing a pattern of cognitive decline.”
Whos Lee?
And whats he president of?
Brh
They seem to be upping whatever they put in his diet Coke.
Psshh, Clinton was the come back kid… Trump is the bounce back guy
How do account for the neuroticism and dishonesty that gripped America’s – cough – thinking classes?
Firstly, they’re above all convinced of their superior intellect. But, if they’re so damn smart, how is it possible that Trump won the election?
Well, yes, that’s obvious, Hillary didn’t lose. And, if she did lose then Trump cheated; the Russians put Trump over the top.
See, there was a conspiracy between the Russians and the Trump camp to um, do something, somehow. Fake news from Russian media outlets they say. And Russian hacking that exposed the truth of how the Democratic Party apparatus actively worked for Hillary and against Bernie.
But there was no conspiracy sayeth the patron saint of prosecutorial probity. And Facebook sez that the Russians spent paltry amounts on facebook ads. And twitter similarly testified as to the insignificant smattering of tweets from Russian sources compared to the daily deluge.
And at least four guys, William Binnney among them, said that there was no hack of DNC servers, rather the download of emails was an inside job, done by means of a handheld device. Oh, and the FBI never got their mitts on said DNC servers to do a proper investigation.
Given all this stuff – losing an unloseable election, justifying the loss via accusations of criminality and treason that, as it turned out after a two year investigation, had no basis in fact – if you were one of the – cough – thinking class, you’d be neurotic too. You’d be exhibiting signs of hysteria, phobia, OCD, depression…
It’s what happens when collective self-image – in this case of competence, moral superiority, social superiority, intellectual superiority, being forever the cool kid – runs aground on the shoals of reality which suddenly reveal they’re not so smart, so cool, so superior.
Volodya, check, people with high opinions of themselves don’t like being made to look like fools … especially by those they despise as being beneath them.
Cheers
It’s always 1968 for these folks you see. Doin’ the Time Warp. And heroes like Woodward and Bernstein are in the end revealed to be nothing but smarmy punks. As are all Leftist Boomer riff raff.
It’s always 1968 for these folks you see. – Janos
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This is another of those little phrases you like to use. You used it exactly 20 mins earlier at 3:16. It’s very preachy and highly annoying. It’s right up there with obviously, thus, for the most part and of course. I think I’m going to start a compendium and ask that others provide suggestions on what should be included.
I know you envision yourself at a pulpit or a lectern.
Or a throne. The Priest told us yesterday that Jewish Elders would sit when they gave a Teaching. He then went on to pervert the story of Christ and the woman caught in adultery. The Rabbis helped his professor to understand it, you see. Who is the voyeur who saw her? Who is the accuser? Where is the lover? Ungrounded accusations bring the penalty being sought (death) on those who falsely accuse. Thus Christ was writing something to this effect in the sand on the ground. Frightened, the elders left.
Christianity says she WAS guilty. And He wrote the sins of the Elders in the sand. Ashamed, they dropped their stone and left. Then Christ said, You are forgiven. Go your way and Sin No More. The priest ignored that part. The moral is that Divine Compassion can trump the Law, at least at times. And that we should show this, at least in some things such as this.
The whole principle of exegesis here is wrong. The Old Testament is to be explained by the New (Christ’s coming), not the New by the Old. Do we seek to understand Christianity by listening to those who say Christ was a liar, blasphemer, a sorcerer, and a deciever – namely the Rabbis? Instead of believing the Church Fathers? Father Dumb forgot that Christ said, Beware the Leaven (teachings) of the Pharisees.
The legal points they brought up are interesting and valid of course. But that doesn’t give people the right to change the focus or the Word of Christ.
to understand it, you see
are interesting and valid of course. – Janos
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Not to be cowed by the likes of me, Janos doubles down.
That is a great idea! The court should include someone recording all of the words of the King. You should start this compendium immediately as you take note of all of his words. Pay attention and listen to all of the beautiful words, poems, sermons and lectures. Perhaps the light in you will grow brighter :-).
ok if there’s annoying words or phrases, here’s some that are synonymous with those causing offense, maybe just for the sake of variety
of course: naturally, clearly
obviously: evidently, plainly
thus: consequently, accordingly
for the most part: mainly, generally
I read that Steven King detests adverbs and, I believe, has written entire novels free of adverbs.
Why does King hate adverbs?
Why does King hate adverbs? – Vol
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Google the question and many articles will appear however even when I read them I still don’t understand.
Hello James,
Well Spring finally crept-in on cats paws over the weekend down here at the confluence of the Anacostia & Potomac. Now we can watch the FARM Industrial Complex implode from the tsunami of ice/hail/snow/rain liberated by warmer weather.
Meanwhile, your shots at the father-murdering social policies of the demonic-marxist-feminist-gulag are music to my ears. I was warning these bitchez in the ‘soviet of washington’ 30 years ago that their family genocide would end badly – and it is at an accelerating rate that compels ‘real-thinking’ folks to evacuate to the fly-over states to avoid the collapse and potential blood-bath.
When I first visited LA in 1977 a friend took me on a drive through the fruit & nut tree groves in the NW San Fernando Valley. On one corner we stopped for a snack at the gas station and noted a large government-style complex in construction across the street. Several of the blue-collar crew were in the store and when we asked about the huge, quite outta place monolith they said it was a police station.
Out here in the sticks we asked – yeah they responded – the “CA Dept. of Social & Health Services” will build apartment blocks out here for welfare moms, so they have to be ready.
Never forgot that exchange and here we are +40 years later . . .
Carry on til you are carrion.
PFO
The gal downstairs had her baby [or fist baby] at age 14.
Her man boy worked in an eatery.
They were scum [I have to be honest].
40 years ago is 2.5 generations to these people.
And the NYT is running an article on egg-freezing for women in their mid-30’s and up who just haven’t gotten around to having kids yet. These are well-educated career focused women who have the ability to fork out the insane amounts of money for this process which may or may not ever result in their being able to have their own genetic children. At the same time low IQ sorts are popping out babies right and left and we, the taxpayer, are supporting them. What does this bode for our collective IQ when they are the ones having the babies?
>>> Now we are seeing a pattern of cognitive decline.
Who could have imagined that all this deterioration, decline, erraticism, and pathology could result in so much good policy and success?!
Shortly after Trump took office, Lee edited a book called, “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump”.
So he was pitching this two years ago—yet another lefty unhappy with the 2016 election result, and trying to justify a coup using 25A.
You want to talk about deterioration, decline, erraticism, and pathology? Go watch shaking palsied Pelosi. Notice he didn’t write a book about her…
Your question kind of proves the point made earlier doesn’t it?
The cognitive deficiencies of his followers (to put it mildly) a feature that accompanies him.
The cognitive deficiencies of Trump’s detractors are such that they don’t realize that my question was rhetorical and facetious.
You dodged so I will ask again: Where’s Lee’s concern regarding stumbling, mumbling, shaking, incoherent, addled, palsied Pelosi? She’s Speaker and #3 in line. Where’s the concern? Oh—right—she’s a lefty liberal so no cause for concern.
Don’t even try to make this medical when we all know it’s political.
You dumbass right armpitters. Always avoid what hits you in the block head by trying to frame the question around some other irrelevant matter. Next you’ll shift the question to queen Elizabeth or some other female who isn’t president of the United States and if all else fails you’ll bring up some other irrelevant matter.
Simple fact is the one person with a finger of the red button requires someone close at all times to keep the drool off his tie.
>>> Simple fact is the one person with a finger of the red button
Dude, 2016 is calling and they want their failed scare tactic back.
Two years later and I’m still not seeing the predicted mushroom clouds.
What I am seeing is Pelosi speaking affectionately about MS-13 gang members and demanding open borders. It’s pretty clear who needs the psych eval…
NYU’s grand gesture is just a way to paper over the shame of the University executives’ role in the college loan racket that may destroy countless lives. –JHK
Jim,
Have to wonder if that won’t be overtaken by the emergence of TLE.
Can’t help but think the speed with which TLE fully manifests will be increased by the increasing disconnection from reality evident in our society.
Cheers
when is TLE? when?
If I’m not mistaken, TLE already started.
Energy consumption continues to rise. Production is rolling over.
I think we’re past the peak. Case in point, see the cover of the New York Times: carbon capture pilot plants… Occidental will use the co2 to force more oil & gas out of spent wells.
“I think we’re past the peak. Case in point, see the cover of the New York Times: carbon capture pilot plants… Occidental will use the co2 to force more oil & gas out of spent wells.”
SnakPak,
I’ve also read of a plant in Canada that captures the CO2 and stores it in a sawdust-like state…it can be used to make liquid fuel for Jet Aircraft, vehicles, etc. The article further stated that they now have the cost of recovery down to a bit under $100 per ton.
Let’s consider that the mass of humans on this planet expel 2.2 BILLIONS of tons of CO2 per day through respiration. Why, that would allow us to be carbon neutral in our breathing for a modest 220 Billion dollars a day…or a Trillion dollars a week with generous rounding…or approximately the GDP of the whole earth every year, considering a 7 day week….
Correction;
Humans actually expel over 15 Billion pounds of CO2 per day through respiration…
Thank God….this makes the problem much more manageable.
I do think we are over the TLE event horizon, in that, we can no longer avoid some degree of crash.
However, I do believe that momentum, will continue its maintenance of the appearance of a status quo for a period of time that will astound many.
Then some event or another will “trigger” a reckoning where denial is no longer possible.
There are many candidates for said event:
– A strong hurricane devastates a part of the South and there is nothing besides lip service for relief and recovery
– Same type of event but flooding in the upper Midwest
– Same for a large quake on the West coast
– China just takes the Philippines or even Hawaii and the US cannot even mount a defense
– Total collapse of the global financial markets
– Collapse of a major second or third world government- too many candidates to list
All likely to be cap stoned by a limited nuclear exchange and followed by widespread chaos as the former global powers are forced to retreat into a smaller world.
And most importantly to us as humans- lot’s and lot’s or tyranny with a large chance for ethnic purges and scapegoating.
My guess is that we are still a decade or two at most out from such dramatic events but the time will pass quickly and barring something major like an alien arrival nothing can help us now. Probably already too late even for the deployment of a radical new energy source. High EROEI is not useful, if the current systems are too exhausted for deployment.
Till then enjoy the bread and circus- no real reason to point fingers and worry about blame now. Other worries will occupy us all soon enough.
The United States can do plenty to help itself and help other nations.
I think there is some confusion of my contention; The Long Emergency is here- Peak Oil production may or may not be- and may or may not be an insurmountable problem.
But one thing is for sure, it doesn’t seem likely that people will be able to simply waste as much energy as they waste every day driving their cars.
In any case its difficult to see the United States moving forward and facing the challenge with leadership at all levels denying and/or pretending CO2 is not a problem, and by extension, our lifestyle, hence, the requirement to seek other arrangements for daily life at any rate.
“The United States can do plenty to help itself and help other nations.”
What do you think the odds of that happening are?
It really depends on how the winning candidate in 2020 frames the mission of the United States.
If the mission is framed with a purpose toward saving the world through vigorous and innovative foreign policy, then there is a good chance. If the mission and mandate slides toward establishment status quo, then we just kick the can to 2024, where a similar contest will occur except with more dire and compelling stakes…
I disagree.
We can make fuel oil out of algae using salt water from the ocean and sewage as fertilizer in large tanks all around the desert southwest.
Nothing more is needed beyond large pressing machines to squish out the bio-diesel gold and good old sunshine. Dump what remains back in the vat and start over this is about once a week in full summer and two or so week cycle in the winter.
Add in switch grass NOT CORN for ethanol and more silicon wafers to collect the suns rays.
Much can be accomplished if only we are willing to work towards it.
Luckily, our leaders realize that could happen are doing everything possible to prevent it. Shareholders need protection.
So I was at another one of those ‘Easter Ham Shoots’ at a gun club in rural Ct on Sunday, good group of members and locals attending, mostly blue collar guys (most of whom were apparently doing pretty well because there were some expensive shotguns extant, as well as nice trucks in the parking lot) A group of firemen from a nearby city showed up; I got talking to this fireman, a big dude, about 6 ft 300 lbs, wearing a MAGA hat. I mentioned to him he was risking assault wearing that hat and a few days ago an elderly Jewish man in San Francisco was attacked on the street for wearing one. He looked at me and pulled back his coat, revealing one of those Colt model 1911s, the Colt .45, in a leather holster, saying “let ’em try”. It occurred to me, this is how it might start, lefties indulging in what they consider bullying street theater, but bullying the wrong guy, one not well versed in intersectional PC platitudes and the game that’s being played, but takes the threat seriously.
Brh
Gawd, your good old boys.
Hows crime in the nutty state [or nut meg state]?
In the urban areas its getting worse. Out here not bad until members of the ‘community’ come out to steal cars and break into houses.
Brh
fire PERSONS are not suppose to be obese.
A mere technicality, my friend.
Yeah, he pulled off his MAGA hat to reveal a Yamulke – classic Schmaltz which America eats up. Is that why the Leftist got her comeuppance in this case? I mean if she had just assaulted a regular old White guy wearing one…..
Thus the case is ruined in terms of general applicability. The “eaters of Schmaltz” never get points like this. They’ll happily go off the East Africa to fight for the Gay Disco if somehow you can get the Blue and White flag involved somehow along with the Masonic Red, White, and Blue.
Vlad, some of your posts seem like theyre lifted from Code Pink, or the BDS site. Strange company you keep.
Brh
Yup, you flunk. You think his Yamulke is a sign of incredible holiness even beyond his MAGA hat. You miss the point and that is the point.
She knocked the MAGA hat off his head because she hated the hat and she thought she could get away with because he was just an old White guy, Whites being a despised race, men being the despised gender, and old as in not able to defend himself perhaps. She could not see the Yarmulke. That has nothing to do with what she did. It should not have been brought up as it has no relevance – but ever do they thrust themselves into the Center. And ever do you accept it.
Dude I didn’t even know he was wearing a Yarmaluke. It was relevant because she was berating the old guy as a racist. Every subject you seem to have to weave in your miserable anti semitism, which calls into question everything you say.
brh
You didn’t know? Very well, I will regrade you once you answer the question up thread: If you are Shane, which side do you shoot fer?
Just saw a great “new” (few years old now) Western called, Bone Tomahawk.
‘Bone Tomahawk’, looks good, gotta get it.
‘Cowboys and Aliens’, with Harrison Ford was another film with mixes genres, western and sci fi.
there’s a 60s film — I can’t remember the name of it — a western set in Mexico where suddenly dinosaurs appear.
the weather here is so consistently miserable (like today, sky looks like it been dredged up fro the bottom of the North Atlantic) not much to do but stay inside and watch movies.
brh
he pulled off his MAGA hat to reveal a Yamulke – Janos
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You spelled it wrong but close enough. There are several different spellings but your’s is not one of them. In any case these beanies are no big deal where I live. Every other male is wearing one here, especially on Saturdays.
Q: You spelled it wrong but close enough. There are several different spellings but your’s [sic] is not one of them.
“Your’s”? Is that a contraction for “your is”? It is not correct English usage. “Yours” is already a possessive pronoun and does not require an apostrophe.
“Yours” is already a possessive pronoun and does not require an apostrophe. – krugperson
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OK, so it’s like its. Possessive but no apostrophe. Thanks for pointing that out.
BTW, did you read Krugman’s op-ed in today’s NYT? He really trashed Herman Cain. I’m sure I know more about the operations of the Fed than Cain and I don’t know shit.
This got people upset because he was an OLD guy just sitting in Starbucks minding his own business when this freak with a mohawk went crazy on him. She then started trying to recruit people via social media to cause him harm. It has zilch to do with his wearing a kippah. Not exactly sure why you have to view everything through the lens of Jew-hate.
I’m asking why the media made a big deal about it, genius.
Because of how outrageous she was doing this to some old dude just sitting there minding his own business in Starbucks. It had nothing to do with his being Jewish; she woudn’t have known that. It had to do with her targeting him for wearing a MAGA hat and her self-righteous belief that of course she was correct doing so and of course everyone would join her in vilifying this guy. She could/would have done the same thing to anyone she didn’t figure was packing and would just shoot her.
@ Janos
And thanks for recognizing I’m a “genius”. I’m one of them high IQ Jew sorts you love so much! 😉
Yes, if you all would only use your IQ for the good of all, then we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Or are you going to vote for Bernie, “Whites don’t know what it means to be poor” Sanders? What a bigot.
And btw, that’s an average. There’s no reason to believe your smart people are any smarter than our smart people. Test question as in check your own heart: If Whites really got into improving themselves a la eugenics, would you be all for that or incredibly and insanely against it as Jews were before?
So again, why did the JEWISH OWNED media make it into a thing? I think you know….
Firemen can be 300 lbs?
Not in the past, when they applied. Physical fitness tests
had to be passed.
…and, surely, regularly thereafter…like in the rest of the
Western world?
Hey, it was only a guess by BRH – if the guy was 6’3″ & 280 lbs, he’d have a BMI of 35, which is only mildly obese (especially by American standards).
Even ‘The Donald’ is only marginally obese at 31, if 6’3″ & 249 lbs is to be believed. What else has he said that’s accurate or even has a glancing relationship with the truth? Nothing, so I’m guessing this is BS too.
I think it’s high time that everyone get over the quaint and thoroughly nostalgic notion of walking into town (can’t) down Main Street (doesn’t exist) and into the 5 and dime, ye olde book shop, ACE Hardware franchise, or RadioShack (inefficient).
It’s quite frankly cheaper, more efficient, and less time constraining to shop from a centralized source via a “smart device”. The idea of wasting TIME to go shopping is anathema to me, walking, riding a bike, or driving a car is plain wasteful.
The reality is that we have to drive to Walmartians or Target or Petcorp to get our junk. We don’t have villages and we are to busy to spend our free time going on a shopping stroll in the “village” only to lament that we should have used Amazon as that the 3 places we visited don’t have what we want. It’s simply not my duty to keep antiquated small businesses in business.
You’re being sarcastic. But plenty of the “thinking classes” on the talk shows say essentially the same thing with a straight face.
No, I’m not.
The idea of consuming more time to consume, to buy stuff, is bizarre.
In days of yore, people went into the village, then the shopping mall, then the strip-mall, and finally the parking lot campus stuffed with big-box retailers and a Charbucks.
Stupid.
Give me a phone, with a few apps, I have the 2 day delivery patience (now, threes same day, 2-hour, and 1 hour), and I can get exactly what I want at a better price and with a lot less time devoted to looking for it.
Besides, the trend in small business has been restaurants and brewpubs and other social consumption establishments.
People, rightly, would rather dine and drink than shop in a social setting.
Because, let’s face it, the revered “civic space” is in all reality the consumption space.
People leave home to consume:
-entertainment (plays, concerts, sports)
-food
-coffee
-drinks, nightlife
and less and less to go to:
-Hallmark
-Woolworth’s
-Sweater Barn
-Hobbytown
“Give me a phone, with a few apps, I have the 2 day delivery patience (now, threes same day, 2-hour, and 1 hour), and I can get exactly what I want at a better price and with a lot less time devoted to looking for it.”
What you describe is a civilization completely dependent on the system continuing to function as it has for the last 50 years.
Good luck.
What are you going to do when electricity is gone?
When the air is toxic?
When the land boils?
When the next plague arrives?
Let me tell you what.
You’re going to try and continue on, and that’s what we do everyday in the place where we exist, I call it “this moment”.
If it isn’t a world worth living in then don’t.
Nobody is holding a gun to your head, but you always can.
But if you turn it around & look at the millions of lost jobs because of your insistence on convenience, then it becomes a bit of a problem in its own right, more than a little inconvenient for those unemployed & underemployed wage earners.
It’s called progress.
Just as I don’t care about the travails of loggers and coal miners.
Move. Get skills. Learn to code.
Or the warehouse order-pickers… or the milkman or the meter-reader or the fishmonger or the chimneysweep oe he lamplighter.
Seriously.
Again, as always, too many people shouldn’t be an excuse to live in the past.
Move on.
“Move on.”
It’s not about moving on, it’s about where we are going. At 72 yo I don’t worry about it, but younger people had better be concerned and making plans because we are headed 90 mph down a dead-end hill and the chain on the bicycle’s broke.
That’s all well & good, but we’re dealing with serious issues in the here & now, not some abstract econometric model. Not everybody can learn to code. And of those who can, what about their jobs? From what I hear, they’re seriously at risk as well now that Drumpf wants even more low-wage H-1Bs approvals, a complete turnabout from what he campaigned on.
Our current economic models are not going to endure. Neither is our current political system. I’ve become convinced that conventional electoral politics isn’t going to solve anything. What did JFK say about peaceful change vs. violent change? But if you feel you’re positioned to take advantage of the current stasis, go for it, I won’t criticize you for it. You have to look out for yourself, especially in the current environment. In fact, there are almost no other options. Just realize, it’s not going to last.
I was responding to Avatar’s ‘move on’ comment.
I’m afraid people of your mindset have simply lost the plot.
Once upon a time there was a really convenient land-bridge, flocks of passenger pigeons, bountiful cod, slave labor, and no real borders.
You adjust when you come to that missing land-bridge.
I will adjust when there isn’t an app for that, or if I need to recalibrate my time and $ savings.
It is not my insistence on convenience.
Not at all.
It’s on my measure of a commodity: time.
Market forces.
I highly prize my time, more so than having to employ a shopkeep and a quaint mode of trade.
No thanks. I reward the business that gives me value for my time and for my $.
You may yearn for days of tilling the back 40 and trading turnips for dental caps, but I don’t.
You say it’s coming, but that’s a deceit, a hope.
I live in the here and now, because that’s where I am at, and here and now a nice Mercedes Amazon van is streetside and a nice gentleman is walking to my door with birdseed, dishwasher pods, a new USB charging cable, and a pair of sandals.
I just saved hours traipsing around town, burning gallons of gas, and about $18.
Amazon started in a small house selling books and I’m rewarding that small business.
So you’re a consumer. So am I, but I don’t glory in it or identify as one. That would be ridiculous. It would appear ridiculous & it would merit scorn by anyone not communicating through anonymous means but face-to-face. You don’t think ‘social capital’ is being or has been destroyed by the growing isolation? What you approve of on an individual level is completely rational. On a group level, destructive. John Calhoun would have tagged you as one of the ‘beautiful ones.’
Yet in places like Portland and Cambridge, Leftists sometimes create wonderful Main Streets, albeit a bit high end and hoity toity. Still their commitment to small scale Capitalism cannot be doubted even if a bit narrow.
Oh, is that where you get your Lulu’s Lemon leggings after a salad at Wholepaycheck?
Because, they are the only people with discretionary income, what stroll-in shopping (small business owners LOL) lives on: impulse buying
Terrific post today, Jim!
“Let’s be absolutelyclear, America is an oil company with an army.”
—GeorgeCarlin
What George failed to mention is that America has a really BIG army with an $800 billion/year budget, spread all over the world with 800+ bases in 100+ countries that we know of. They are on high alert and on-the-ready to slap the dung out of any country that decides to trade oil or any other commodity in a medium of exchange other than the fiat dollar.
Beware Venezula, the “thinking class” wants your crude and they will use their lying Wurlitzer (the MSM) to get the ball rolling, just like they used that Kuwaiti’s diplomats teenage daughter’s lies (great actress BTW) about Iraqi soldiers removing babies from incubators and using bayonets to get public opinion supportive of Operation Desert Storm. In 2003, the thinking class Wurltzer convinced us, the gullible American public, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Today, the Wurlitzer is spreading the lie that the Iranian military is a terrorist organization. That’s kind of like the pot calling the kettle black, isn’t it?
Truth tellers, like Dick Gregory, Bill Hicks,Lenny Bruce and George Carlin are really missed. Why are (uncomprimised) comedians usually the only ones who tell the truth in our society? Whenever the “thinking Class” decides to tell us the truth, it will be the first time!
On the contrary, the US Arny is small, fewer than 500,000 active duty soldiers.
Compare that to China’s 3 million, or NKorea’s 5 million.
The US army today is about the same size as it was in 1865.
Brh
I believe George meant the sum total of all military forces. Adding in the Navy, with all the high-tech ships and Trident subs with their MIRV’s and the Air Force with their hypersonic jet fighters, spy satellites and drones along with the Marines, results in no shortage of firepower. With the increased use of private military contractors and covert intelligence operations the US is still a formidable destructive force and very capable of throwing their weight around.
And yet, despite all that, we’ve punted in Venezuela, on our own doorstep, and in the past few weeks elements of the Chinese PLA have showed up, as well as the Russian army.
Is that a better outcome?
Brh
You lose, Zio. No White American blood is going to get spilled in this one.
$. trillions. Nukes. etc.
Yes but,
343,000 Army Reserve
107,000 Air force Reserve
Also a printing press for those Hessian mercenaries
>>> What George failed to mention is that America has a really BIG army with an $800 billion/year budget, spread all over the world with 800+ bases in 100+ countries that we know of. They are on high alert and on-the-ready to slap the dung out of any country
And yet we can’t even stop illiterate destitute immigrants from invading. Don’t think that our enemies haven’t noticed…
… and haven’t been on the winning side of an armed conflict since ’45.
War-mongerers and really poor at it.
Don’t be silly.
We have not been at war. If we had been willing to wage war with the ruthlessness that we did in WWII we would have laid waste to the planet and stood over it like Collossus.
The population does not now have the stomach for it (nor do I). I had an uncle who was a navigator in a B-24 over Europe. On return he spoke with tears about how the plane would descend “on the deck” coming back from Germany, and the gunners would shoot at any living thing.
War is Hell. If we ever wage it again, it will be Hell again.