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Having disgraced themselves with full immersion in the barren RussiaGate “narrative,” the Resistance is now tripling down on RussiaGate’s successor gambit: obstruction of justice where there was no crime in the first place. What exactly was that bit of mischief Robert Mueller inserted in his final report, saying that “…while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him?”

It’s this simple: prosecutors are charged with finding crimes. If there is insufficient evidence to bring a case, then that is the end of the matter. Prosecutors, special or otherwise, are not authorized to offer hypothetical accounts where they can’t bring a criminal case. But Mr. Mueller produced a brief of arguments pro-and-con about obstruction for others to decide upon. In doing that, he was out of order, and maliciously so.

Of course, Attorney General Barr took up the offer and declared the case closed, as he properly should where the prosecutor could not conclude that a crime was committed. One hopes that the AG also instructed Mr. Mueller and his staff to shut the fuck up vis-à-vis further ex post facto “anonymous source” speculation in the news media. But, of course, the Mueller staff — which inexplicably included lawyers who worked for the Clinton Foundation and the Democratic National Committee — at once started insinuating to New York Times reporters that the full report would contain an arsenal of bombshells reigniting enough suspicion to fuel several congressional committee investigations.

The objective apparently is to keep Mr. Trump burdened, hobbled, and disabled for the remainder of his term, and especially in preparation for the 2020 election against whoever emerges from the crowd of lightweights and geriatric cases now roistering through the primary states. It also leaves the door open for the Resistance to prosecute an impeachment case, since that is a political matter, not a law enforcement action.

This blog is not associated with any court other than public opinion, and I am free to hypothesize on the meaning of Mr. Mueller’s curious gambit, so here goes: Mr. Barr, long before being considered for his current job, published his opinion that there was no case for obstruction of justice in the RussiaGate affair. By punting the decision to Mr. Barr, Mr. Mueller sets up the AG for being accused of prejudice in the matter — and, more to the point, has managed to generate a new brushfire in the press.

Mr. Barr could see this coming from a thousand miles away. I suspect he’s pissed off about being set up like this. I suspect further that he knows this brushfire is intended to produce a smokescreen to obscure the rash of grand jury referrals coming down in the weeks and months ahead against the many government employees who concocted the RussiaGate scandal. Personally, I think Mr. Mueller himself deserves to be in that roundup for destroying evidence (the Strzok / Page cell phones) and for malicious prosecution against General Flynn, among other things.

The reason Mr. Mueller did not bring an obstruction of justice charge against Mr. Trump is that the evidence didn’t support it. He didn’t have a case. In a trial — say, after Mr. Trump was impeached or left office — the discovery process could bring to light evidence that might embarrass and even incriminate Mr. Mueller and his staff, and cast further opprobrium on the federal justice agencies. For instance: why did Mr. Mueller drag out his inquiry for two years when he must have known by at least the summer of 2017 that the Steele dossier was a fraud perpetrated by the Clinton campaign?

Now the propaganda crusade has been initiated to defame Mr. Barr. The idiots running the budding new congressional inquiries are going to pile on him, with the help of the news media. Though he is said to be an “old friend” of Robert Mueller’s, I believe they have become adversaries, perhaps even enemies. Mr. Mueller is not in a position of strength in this battle. He has now officially exited the stage as his mandate expires, so he has no standing to oppose further consequences in the aftermath of RussiaGate. What remains is a dastardly and seditious hoax as yet unadjudicated and an evidence trail a mile wide, and no amount of jumping up and down crying “woo woo woo” by Jerrold Nadler, Maxine Waters, and Adam Schiff is going to derail that choo-choo train a’chuggin’ down the tracks.


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  1. Nightowl April 5, 2019 at 10:14 am #

    Great, concise summary. Train is definitely chuggin’ down the track.

    • OccamsBeard April 5, 2019 at 1:24 pm #

      ….chuggin’ down the track to a train wreck! What a mess!

      TraffickingInDivinity.com

    • gonetohell April 7, 2019 at 6:35 pm #

      Really? According to the brains behind this blog, geriatrics are not to be taken seriously. JHK is certainly in this category. So if you’re using him to compensate your inability to reason, you may want to reconsider.

  2. Ishabaka April 5, 2019 at 10:17 am #

    I was glad to see Elizabeth Warren wagging her angry finger at Joe Biden for hugging women too much.

    She of the affirmative action Harvard post for being 1:1,024th something-or-other is the perfect moral lodestone for the nation.

    • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:23 am #

      She probably would have made a bigger splash if she scalped him :-).

      • hmuller April 5, 2019 at 10:36 am #

        Hey, I just had a great idea. “Creepy Joe Biden” – the Broadway Musical. It will touch you in ways you’ve never been touched. I envision it sort of like “Hamilton” – only with more hair sniffing.

        • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:41 am #

          LOL I think it is a fantastic idea. And some nasty whispers in the ear to make chills rush down your spine!

          • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 11:53 am #

            It could be the sequel to “Pussy Grabber in Chief.”

          • Nightowl April 5, 2019 at 3:41 pm #

            Except the supposed pussy grabber isn’t on video doing said grabbing. In fact, the follow up quote to that was “they let you” which sounds like consent, if such a thing even happened.

            Back in the real world, Joe Biden is on video groping children.

            Tough luck, Welp.

          • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 8:52 pm #

            “They let you sounds like consent.” You must be a fucking rapist. She wanted it right?

        • hmuller April 5, 2019 at 10:46 am #

          OR better yet, we could make it about Joe Biden’s remote ancestor. Persecuted in England, he comes to America where he can freely touch and sniff Native Americans of the Scratchaho tribe. He meets Elizabeth Warren’s great-great grandmother, love blooms, and the seeds of a great stateswoman are planted.

          AOC to play the female lead.

          • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:53 am #

            That would be totally amazing!! And then just think about it. The lovebirds create a small state in the Northeast called Scratchnsniffaho which later gets incorporated into Rhode Island :-).

          • rackslope April 5, 2019 at 3:13 pm #

            LOL! you had me at “Scratchaho”!

      • montsegur April 6, 2019 at 2:21 am #

        LOL. America’s Wooden Indianette.

        Cheers

    • K-Dog April 5, 2019 at 10:36 am #

      You like angry fingers?

    • gonetohell April 7, 2019 at 6:41 pm #

      Although the rest of the buffoons that come here to stroke JHK’s PP, I get what you’re saying. You’re contention is that pussy grabbing Donald Trump should remain the moral lodestone for the nation.

  3. marcus1 April 5, 2019 at 10:20 am #

    Mr. Mueller stated he does not think a sitting President can be indicted. If this is correct than no charges would be brought by Mueller which would mean no indictment, regardless of the evidence.

    Therefore your statement “The reason Mr. Mueller did not bring an obstruction of justice charge against Mr. Trump is that the evidence didn’t support it. He didn’t have a case. ” isn’t relevant of any findings by Mueller.

    A “charge” by a prosecutor is an indictment. No indictment does not indicate that Mueller believed no crime was committed.

    • James Howard Kunstler April 5, 2019 at 10:25 am #

      It was not Mr. Mueller who argued that a sitting president can’t be indicted. I’m not aware that Mr. Mueller ever expressed an opinion on that matter, which remains controversial. He well might have ventured to charge Trump if he had the evidence… but he did not.

      • DEFCON1 April 5, 2019 at 10:29 am #

        Mueller is doing a fantastic Judge Crater imitation. I wish he would get out there and tell us all what this was all about for 2 years.

        • Nightowl April 5, 2019 at 10:46 am #

          He was the “insurance policy” for illegally removing a sitting president.

          His appointment was made possible by the fraudulent Steel Dossier and intelligence agency hacks who lied to you.

          • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 11:52 am #

            Looks like he was as good as the insurance the Republican Healthcare Plan will provide.

          • Farmer Joe April 5, 2019 at 11:56 am #

            Are you basing this statement in anything factual or is this just partisan hatred?

          • Nightowl April 5, 2019 at 4:44 pm #

            Obamacare was previously known as Romneycare.

            You are 0 for 2.

          • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 8:50 pm #

            And Romenycare was derived from Hillary’s attempt to bring universal healthcare to America. You’re 0 for 3.

          • Nightowl April 6, 2019 at 3:34 am #

            There is that real world stuff we talked about again.

            nbcnews.com/id/44854320/ns/politics-decision_2012/t/white-house-used-mitt-romney-health-care-law-blu…

            “Bloomberg Politics national political reporter Sahil Kapur, wrote that Clinton’s claim that “Hillarycare” was a precursor to Obamacare, is “an oversimplification,” explaining that “Obama’s plan more closely resembles the Massachusetts overhaul signed into law in 2006 by the state’s then-governor, Mitt Romney.”[3]”
            ballotpedia.org/%22Hillarycare%22_(The_proposed_Health_Security_Act_of_1993)

            You are 0 for 5 Welplet.

          • seawolf77 April 6, 2019 at 10:19 am #

            One man’s opinion is another man’s toilet paper, you should know that nightworm. You’re now 0 for worm. Stick your head up from the dirt and gesticulate.

          • Nightowl April 7, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

            One man’s opinion, indeed. No one believed the talking point but you.

            Heh.

      • marcus1 April 5, 2019 at 10:41 am #

        Jim, I stand corrected, Mueller never stated that a sitting President can’t be indicted. But the point of my argument still stands because of the policy of the Justice Department and Mueller’s probable allegiance to that policy. From heritage.org/crime-and-…ueller-indicting-trump-wont-happen-even-if-he

        “Mueller was appointed as a Special Counsel by Rod Rosenstein in May 2017 pursuant to Rosenstein’s authority as Acting Attorney General. In the appointment order, Rosenstein states that Mueller is subject to the regulations governing special counsels. One of those regulations, 28 CFR §600.7 (a), specifies that the special counsel must “comply with the rules, regulations, procedures, practices and policies of the Department of Justice.”

        Therefore, Mueller must comply with the policies of the Justice Department – and the policy of the department according to the opinions issued in 1973 and 2000 is that a sitting president cannot be criminally indicted or prosecuted.”

      • noel bodie April 5, 2019 at 12:15 pm #

        I await your call to provide the unredacted report to congress in order to spare us your continued speculations and aspersions. Surely that is the only course to follow to get to the bottom of this. It also has the virtue of following Constitutional provisions.

        • Majella April 7, 2019 at 6:11 pm #

          Agreed, noel bodie.

          Given JHK’s self-proclaimed ‘allergy’ to conspiracy theories, he’s making a fine fist of this one.

          I also await the actual FACTS of the matter, be it via the release of the report by an actually fair-minded AG (unlikely) or subpoenaed testimony by Mueller himself (though I suspect he’d be limited to answering that h cannot answer) or a genuine leak.

          Also, JHK – where’s is the debunking evidence regarding the Steele Dossier – and Devin Nunes spouting that Michael Cohen has ‘totally debunked’ it is not evidence by anybody who thinks.

    • Nightowl April 5, 2019 at 10:35 am #

      The obstruction of justice fantasists always forget that Rod Rosenstein advised the president to fire Comey, as it was fully within his right to do so.

      I am also curious what justice was being obstructed, given that the Russia Hoax is a creation of Robby Mook and John Podesta, and that the purposefully nebulous “collusion” is not a crime anyways.

      It would be funny were it no so sad – at every level.

      • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 8:48 pm #

        I’ve posted this before. I know you’re a little slow. So here goes again.
        “High” in the legal and common parlance of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries of “high crimes” signifies activity by or against those who have special duties acquired by taking an oath of office that are not shared with common persons. A high crime is one that can only be done by someone in a unique position of authority, which is political in character, who does things to circumvent justice. The phrase “high crimes and misdemeanors” when used together was a common phrase at the time the U.S. Constitution was written and did not mean any stringent or difficult criteria for determining guilt; it meant the opposite. The phrase was historically used to cover a very broad range of crimes.
        Trump committed a high crime when he fired Comey because he was investigating him. That is by definition a “high crime” and obstruction of justice. If he had nothing to hide, why not let the investigation run to its logical conclusion. Instead, he interfered. He did not have to. Whether there was a crime or not is irrelevant. He used his office to obstruct an ongoing investigation. THAT THAT THAT THAT is the crime.

        • Nightowl April 6, 2019 at 3:35 am #

          James Comey told Trumpi 3 separate times that he was not under investigation.

          0 for 6 now.

          Heh.

    • Exscotticus April 5, 2019 at 10:51 am #

      This is all just semantics. In the case of POTUS, you don’t “indict”; you “initiate articles of impeachment”. And only Congress can do that. The prosecutor’s role in this case is not to “prosecute” in the traditional sense, but to investigate potential criminal activity and gather evidence for Congress to evaluate. This actually makes Mueller more like a cop than a prosecutor. In non-POTUS-contexts, it is the police who gather criminal evidence—not the prosecutor. The police present evidence to the prosecutor, who then decides whether or not to indict. Sometimes a grand jury is part of the process as well. But the prosecutor has the final say.

      Our system provides immunity to POTUS from indictment. Otherwise, any federal prosecutor in the Republic could ask for an arrest warrant, and any federal judge could issue one—effectively nullifying a presidency.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 1:31 pm #

        Just? Nothing, outside of pure Mathematics, is more confusing for ordinary people. Once you take it to this level, you can do whatever you want. As Tom Jefferson said, if the Constitution and the Law based on it are to have any meaning, words must retain their simple and original meanings. The vast Priesthood of Lawyers mitigates this needless to say. As does the partisan press and public relations scoundrels.

    • HowardBeale April 5, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

      Hey Marcus,
      You really need to leave the assesssment of reality to those who have done their homework.

      “Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense. Our determination was made without regard to, and is not based on, the constitutional considerations that surround the indictment and criminal prosecution of a sitting president.

      Note: “without regard to”; they, specifically, did not rely on that fact.

      judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house.gov/files/documents/AG%20March%2024%202019%20Let…

  4. SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:21 am #

    It looks like the Deep State is as strong as ever. And from what I can tell they have basically neutered President Trump or he has decided to back away from his America First agenda on his own (probably under threat). His biggest mistake was to surround himself with the Deep State and Establishment at the outset of his administration when it was all supposed to be about disempowering the Elite. The witch hunt will not end until Trump is gone and the Deep State has a puppet on the throne. There dying to have Obama 2.0 in that role so I think Uncle Joe and Feel The Bern probably missed the boat.

    • K-Dog April 5, 2019 at 10:34 am #

      ‘They’ want a woman in. Don’t you?

      • Ol' Scratch April 5, 2019 at 10:39 am #

        Technically, that would be a “bitch” in Dawg terms. Just sayin’. Woof woof!

        • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:45 am #

          Well just think about it. If a lady president really went after the Deep State and the Elite they would probably call her a bitch and they would say it would be totally cool and politically correct to do so in her case. I think being called a bitch is a small price to pay to save the country. In fact, why not just be Super Bitch!!?

          • K-Dog April 5, 2019 at 10:54 am #

            A woman with the keys to the kingdom able to rain hell on any other bitches that gone and done her wrong.

            Think Dresden 1945. Firestorm.

          • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 11:34 am #

            Hey isn’t that misogyny? I would be a totally awesome president. I would make them all pay. And no one would ever talk about me behind my back that’s for sure! I would have my spies everywhere. Hope and pray I never get elected ;-).

          • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 11:49 am #

            A woman president might give Deep Throat to the Deep State.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

            Or pretend to and then bite. Remember Esther and Judith of Jewish legend?

      • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:39 am #

        If she would actually take out the Deep State then yes. But if she is part of the Deep State no. So yes and no.

      • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 11:49 am #

        No woman no cry.

    • abbybwood April 5, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

      Tucker Carlson made excellent points last night in his argument that it appears Trump is purposely trying to lose in 2020:

      theweek.com/speedreads/833479/fox-news-tucker-carlson-wonders-aloud-whether-trump-actually-wants-los…

      • CancelMyCard April 5, 2019 at 7:22 pm #

        Tucker Carlson has all the credibility

        of a bank robber caught

        inside the vault,

        videocams and all.

        He is bloody pathetic.

        • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 1:40 am #

          I think he is reasonable and thoughtful. Why do you think he lacks credibility?

          • Nightowl April 6, 2019 at 4:00 am #

            He is indeed. I didn’t think much of him in his Crossfire days, but that has changed.

            I wish I had taken the time to learn about his actual views before lumping him in with the Shrub neocon set.

      • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 1:42 am #

        It really makes a lot of sense given that Trump appears to have abandoned his core campaign promises.

  5. shabbaranks April 5, 2019 at 10:21 am #

    Great column. Russiagate was a hoax from go, perpetrated by deep state remnants like Clapper and Brennan, enabled by Comey with guile, and reported by the likes of insane Maddow, its doppelgänger Hayes and a host of other now-forever discredited organizations like the NYT & WashPo. And all to enable the feckless, lazy old grifter lady called Hillary to engage in a quixotic quest to become president. It’s her time (to lose!).

    If you want to see a crime in plain sight, take a look at the geographic boundaries of gigantic necked Rep. Jerrold Nadler’s 10th Congressional district in NYC. What a joke.

    • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:27 am #

      Ah but some people are immune from the law and accountability. Hillary is one of those who is above law and consequences. For now….

      • shabbaranks April 5, 2019 at 10:53 am #

        Different spanks for different ranks. Otherwise, tired old Hillary would be resting in a federal prison hospital somewhere in America.

    • So many liars April 5, 2019 at 10:56 am #

      Wow, that’s a congressional district? Would be interesting to hear somebody defend those boundaries.

    • Tate April 5, 2019 at 11:22 am #

      It was Jerrold-mandered for sure but the story behind that reconfiguration must be fascinating.

  6. Exscotticus April 5, 2019 at 10:24 am #

    We all got a taste of the Long Emergency when the comments section went down this week. Complex interdependent systems will be the first to go…

    • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:33 am #

      I know!!!! I literally was so sad and upset. I don’t know if I can handle the breakdown of communication. I gossiped alot more with my friends on the phone this week so that wasn’t a good coping mechanism :-).

      • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 11:47 am #

        Did you think he barred you?

        • capt spaulding April 5, 2019 at 2:35 pm #

          It was actually the deep state’s doing, trying to silence the criticism of Mueller.

          • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 1:44 am #

            Yeah I did think that was definitely a possibility.

        • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 1:49 am #

          Yep totally, I thought I was in trouble again ;-).

  7. K-Dog April 5, 2019 at 10:27 am #

    Maintenance problems sure took a long time. Typing in code by hand without making a mistake is hard to do. I know. Believing an upgrade could take so long, well, things do get complicated. But are we to believe that someone who continues to write against the resistance even after we all breath a collective sigh of relief (too soon obviously) that it is all over isn’t trying to keep this sick fable alive? There are other things under the sun. Some of which actually exist.

    The Does Marcellus Wallace throwing Tony out a four story window sound reasonable to you?

    • Farmer Joe April 5, 2019 at 10:35 am #

      I love that movie!

    • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:38 am #

      So who’s feet got massaged lol :-P.

      • K-Dog April 5, 2019 at 10:43 am #

        ‘Yours’ and I think you told Marcellus on Tony.

        • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:46 am #

          LOL well if he didn’t do a good job then I definitely told on him ;-).

    • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 1:36 pm #

      Indian IT workers? Or Cowboys? Unlike the Cowboys and the Farmers, they can’t be friends.

      • hmuller April 5, 2019 at 2:32 pm #

        Debbie Wasserman Schultz highly recommends the Awan brothers for all your IT work.

  8. DEFCON1 April 5, 2019 at 10:28 am #

    President Boot Edge-Edge.

    It has a certain ring to it.

    • shabbaranks April 5, 2019 at 10:47 am #

      Yes it does, like a “never gonna happen” ring. But the East Room parties would be fabulous and no doubt his interior designer would ditch the feeble grouping of gold leaf encrusted fitments and paraphernalia the Golden Golem has assembled to entertain Beltway sycophants and satrapy seekers, so it wouldn’t be all negative.

  9. teddyboy46 April 5, 2019 at 10:31 am #

    Trump is a Clever Old Fox he has given a warning that he will close the Border in one years if the wall is not built and immigration laws enforced. Next year at this time we will be in the middle of the primaries. He has given the RepCons an issue they can win on and Dem,Libs can lose on . i am getting the popcorn ready this will be political theater at it’s finest .

    • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:43 am #

      Yeah but we need the border closed now. National security is not a political game so I am very mad at him about that.

      • DEFCON1 April 5, 2019 at 10:47 am #

        Well, hell – if you are really interested in doing the right thing, let’s restore things back to before the cynical land-grab call the ‘Mexican-American War’ and give them back the land that was stolen from them.

        Then close the borders. Sound good?

        • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:54 am #

          Ok let’s begin negotiations!

        • Tate April 5, 2019 at 11:33 am #

          They couldn’t hold that land. The Mexican state is inherently weak. No navigable rivers into its interior as an example of why it’s a weak state. Geographically, it’s inconveniently divided by mountains, deserts, & jungles. The narco gangs seriously challenge the Federal District for a reason.

          The Mexicans are lucky their whole country wasn’t annexed by the U.S. at the time, which was also understood by most in the U.S., all but a few fanatics who wanted to expand the American slave empire into Latin America.

        • benr April 5, 2019 at 11:48 am #

          Do you mean the land the Spaniards stole from the local Indians?
          How far back do you want to go?
          Mexico’s claim to land was run on a campaign of murder, deceit, and breeding the locals into submission.
          In other words Mexico lost the land fair and square to bad so sad their claim to the land north of the border is no longer valid. and the land was so unsettled at that point it almost did not matter.

          They know this which is why they are now trying to take it back with the Reconquista movement by out breeding and moving large chunks of brainwashed MEXICANS NORTH.
          La Mecha and LA Raza = racist movments based on race.

          Want to see just how far some in Mexico were willing to go?
          Look up the plan of San Diego where they wanted to murder everyone over the age of 16 if they had this plan then what makes anyone think they won’t plan to go this far in the future or now?

          • hmuller April 5, 2019 at 2:38 pm #

            All the money Mexican workers (legal or illegal) have earned here and sent back to their families in Mexico is more than fair compensation for the annexation of 1848.

        • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:56 am #

          But that wall was to keep people from escaping. Our Wall is to keep people from entering.

          • K-Dog April 5, 2019 at 11:00 am #

            So one keeps people on the other side and one does not? Is that what you are saying?

          • DEFCON1 April 5, 2019 at 11:06 am #

            Those unmentionables South of ‘our’ Border are quite sensibly trying to take back what is rightfully theirs. That is something that pathetic barrel of monkey-spunk can never get through his thick top-knot.

          • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 11:07 am #

            Well per Trump he wanted our Wall to have a beautiful door. I don’t want the Wall to have a door but he intended it to be so. So yes, our Wall would have still allowed people in. But the Berlin Wall didn’t allow anyone out right?

          • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 11:13 am #

            No it is not rightfully theirs. But that is a nice try. If that is the case then Europe is rightfully for Europeans and all immigrants need to be immediately expelled. But I know you wouldn’t support that.

          • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 11:46 am #

            I’d like to know the oranges of the wall. I really would. What are thee oranges of the Wall?

          • benr April 5, 2019 at 11:54 am #

            @defcon

            Please explain how the desert southwest is theirs?
            Are you really this deficient in cognitive abilities?
            You might actually want to take a very deep breath possession is 9/10th of the law correct?
            Which is why this huge push for millions of illegal aliens is on.
            Take it back by Reconquista!
            There is no plan for well meaning progressives as you are not La Raza the race “all for the race and none for you.”
            A false narrative has been pushed for well over 100 years about why Mexico lost the desert South west.
            Consider Mexico can’t even manage the country they have now why in the name of God would anyone want to live in Mexico Norte Americano? Corrupt Narco state!

          • BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 1:26 pm #

            Mexico controlled the territory that is now Texas for about 16 years, 1820-1836.

            Hardly long enough to claim “they are taking back what is theirs.”

            On the other hand, let Mexico have Califorrnia. China just landed troops in Venezuela 2 days ago, and it wouldn’t be long, at Mexicos invitation, before they landed troops in Baja, California, and started fighting their way north, all the way to the Oregon border.

            Brh

          • hmuller April 5, 2019 at 4:31 pm #

            “So one keeps people on the other side and one does not? Is that what you are saying?”

            Oh, K-Dog, you’ve just hit the jackpot for specious sophistries. (Use your dictionary)

      • Exscotticus April 5, 2019 at 10:58 am #

        >>> Yeah but we need the border closed now.

        Actually we don’t. All we need to do is play the Left’s game. If they’re not going to properly fund the border, then Trump will continue to reallocate resources away from lawful crossings to deal with unlawful ones. That will effectively stop lawful crossings without any formal declaration as such.

        • K-Dog April 5, 2019 at 11:06 am #

          Under the letter of the law if they are seeking asylum they cross legally. If they don’t seek asylum in a reasonable time that is another thing.

          The Greatest Generation has to be spinning in their graves. Their grandchildren became Nazis and foist their own definition of illegal upon the land.

          Could genocide become only a hop skip and a jump away? That this becomes a fair question is very sad.

          • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 11:10 am #

            Ah but do you think this only goes one way? Surely you know that there are many who are actively working to dispossess the grandchildren of the Greatest Generation from their own country. Perhaps you are only concerned about the genocide of some but not others? After all, we do have our own biases. I say let’s negotiate now before any such problems arise.

          • K-Dog April 5, 2019 at 11:27 am #

            Taking their children away and sexually abusing them is fucked up.

          • Farmer Joe April 5, 2019 at 11:31 am #

            Some millennials recognize what is happening and are moving in the opposite direction.

          • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 11:31 am #

            Yep it sure is and is totally unacceptable. Think of how many were raped and molested on the trek here as well. Its wrong in all areas and needs to be totally shutdown.

          • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 11:36 am #

            Taking their children away and sexually abusing them is the Catholic way.

          • benr April 5, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

            @SEAWOLF77

            It also appears to be the Democrat way of doing thins.

          • BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 1:28 pm #

            Hey K dog there are about 3 billion people who would qualify for ‘asylum’ if only they could make there way here.

            How any can we take?

            Brh

          • Exscotticus April 5, 2019 at 3:00 pm #

            >>> Under the letter of the law if they are seeking asylum they cross legally.

            Is that so? Show us. Here’s the law. Note all the exceptions. Note all the powers granted to the AG.

            Do you really believe that uttering “Abracadabra Asylum!” gives everyone the right to cross over whenever, wherever however they want? So all border security is subordinate to asylum law? A foreign army can lawfully cross over—weapons in tow—so long as they’re all claiming asylum?

          • hmuller April 5, 2019 at 4:37 pm #

            So true Ex,

            K-Dog is just pulling laws, facts, whatever he needs – out of his ass. We see this all the time with left-wingers. They aren’t as smart or virtuous as they think they are – not by a long shot.

      • Majella April 7, 2019 at 7:15 pm #

        SSL, you’re as ill-informed as Clownstick von President.

        ‘National Security’ surely includes the maintenance of an orderly market in goods & services, without which millions would soon be out of work and businesses going broke.

        Besides, this Dipstick von Clownface of a President recently said:
        ” we’ll tariff them (Mexican goos, esp cars)”.

        What would that result in? Several outcomes, all of them unpalatable:
        1. tariffs are paid by the end consumer (in this case Americans);

        2. if it worked in reducing sales of Mexican cars, then you’ve just added to the hordes of Mexicans suffering so much economic insecurity that getting to the USA seems like a preferable idea, despite the dangers;

        3. these Mexican car companies are owned by US corporations, so who’s going to wear the loss in the end? Again, the US economy.

        Trump’s ideas on economics & trade are so far out of whack with reality it’s just mind-boggling.

        Why does he think that REDUCING or even FREEZING economic aid to the poorest central American countries – the very source of his dreaded caravans of disease & gangsters – will alleviate the desire of those poorest people to escape their misery?

    • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 1:41 pm #

      He’s never going to do that. It would lose too much business, plus we might run out of avocados – and that means no guacamole. Our Economy – which is the only thing the Elite value – is essentially One with Mexico, and by extension all of Central America. Soon South America will begin pouring in as well.

      Turmp or Blumpfh has made his priorities clear: he stand with the Economic Elite. Maybe at one point he fantasized that they were different from the Deep State or Swamp, but for all intents and purposes, they are not.

      Barring radical action, we are finished as the historical, White, Western American Nation.

      • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 2:04 am #

        Can you believe that avocados are actually a thing in this debate? That literally the availability of avocados is so sacred that national security must take a back seat. The fact that some people are even concerned about this is stunning to me.

  10. Farmer Joe April 5, 2019 at 10:34 am #

    “It also leaves the door open for the Resistance to prosecute an impeachment case, since that is a political matter, not a law enforcement action.”

    I can hear it now. “It doesn’t matter what the report says, Trump is an evil, misogynist, capitalist, liar. He needs to be destroyed with the patriarchy!”

    Facts don’t matter when you’re fighting the hysteria of a hate filled ideology.

  11. Ol' Scratch April 5, 2019 at 10:35 am #

    I predict this will all be fought out in the press and the court of public opinion over the next few months, then die a gradual death after it no longer generates sufficient hysteria, having served its primary purpose as smoke and mirrors to distract the population from all the things that DC didn’t get done in the meantime. Other than possibly starting a war or two and conducting a few more false flag shooting incidents, of course, but those things are always a given. Of course it will also provide fodder for the upcoming 2020 election Olympics (LIVE! On NBC), but that too is a given.

    Meanwhile, commenters here like the SeaWolfy and the Lil SnackPak will continue to weigh in gravely on the implications of this whole affair, asserting that it conclusively proves that GGG is the evilist Evil Fucker in the history of the universe and that only by conducting a do-over of the entire 2016 election and subsequent history – which the Finc will then boldly assert that he has done the calculations for, and yes, all of that (time travel) is indeed possible – can America once again return to being that “shining city on a hill” [Angelic chorus here] that our lord Saint Ronnie (hallowed be his name) proclaimed it to be. All while the long term collapse and dissolution of the fabled “American Empire” (TM) continues unabated; albeit slowly and barely noticed by those who live through it daily.

    • K-Dog April 5, 2019 at 10:42 am #

      All while the long term collapse and dissolution of the fabled “American Empire” (TM) continues unabated; albeit slowly and barely noticed by those who live through it daily.

      But we will all know how Mueller takes his coffee, like it or not.

      The barely noticed part is the point.

    • Walter B April 5, 2019 at 10:42 am #

      Not quite Ol Scratch, it is going to drag on until neither DJT or any other replacement that “they” do not like is removed from office. “They” shall piss, moan, and whine and hamstring any and every effort that is made to change the status quo. It is the classic sand in the face that the Charles Atlas bully kicked into the eyes of the 90 pound weakling to get the girl. Unfortunately for those that read the rags and watch the crap on what is called the “media” (should be renamed dementia), they have so much sand in their eyes that they can no longer even find their way into the proper restroom. Not that there is any rest in those anyway.

      Our government is completely impotent and totally inept. How can things ever do anything but degrade?

      • Ol' Scratch April 5, 2019 at 10:51 am #

        Correct Sir Walter. That is indeed the subtext. To belabor my turn of phrase, that too is a given.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 1:47 pm #

        And if he has that much sand in his eyes, he’s not going to be able to order or read Charlie’s book about weight lifting, and he’s never going to be able to get strong and get back the girl.

    • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 11:03 am #

      It’s still an intentional demolition but maybe more from inaction rather than action in some cases.

      • benr April 5, 2019 at 11:58 am #

        Some have been screaming about how the take over and failure will go.
        It happened to the Roman Empire why do we think it will go any different for us here in the future?
        We seem to be exactly where Weimar Germany was right after WWI.

        • Farmer Joe April 5, 2019 at 1:20 pm #

          Printing money because we lost the greatest war ever up to that point? I don’t see your point. Like when people compare Trump to Hitler.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

            We obviously lost WW2 on a deeper level. Who can live long and prosper after killing their brother? We became Cain – and our descent into depravity has been amazingly swift since then.

        • Walter B April 5, 2019 at 2:34 pm #

          Not exactly the same situation as Weimar benr because the Germans owed all of their massive debts to hostile, foreign nations. Those foreigner were more than happy to crash the German economy, move in and own it all. In America case today, the bulk of the debt is owned by the Federal Reserve who can only crash the American economy if there is some way that they can profit even more from a crash. I do not think there is, so I would think that a crash is not going to happen. What will take place instead I am not sure, but certainly it cannot be good.

          • hmuller April 5, 2019 at 4:47 pm #

            The Federal Reserve is owned by several large banks, which are in turn owned by certain people who prefer to remain in the shadows. When credit cycles crash and tangible assets are put on sale cheap – they buy what they want.

            Walter, I’m sure you know that Central Banks were not put on earth to help the ordinary people get richer.

          • benr April 5, 2019 at 5:39 pm #

            No are you sure?
            How much does China 1.12trillion, japan1.02 trillion you so sure they don’t want a fire sale at some point?

          • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 9:08 pm #

            The Federal Reserve is owned by the Catholic Church.

          • Walter B April 5, 2019 at 10:39 pm #

            Yes the Chinese hold what you say and others hold some as well, benr, but if the US is 21 trillion in debt, it would appear that the biggest holder of that debt is the Federal Reserve.

          • Walter B April 5, 2019 at 10:41 pm #

            Yes, hmuller, the Fed is what you say it is and no they were not established for us, but to enrich the few at the expense of the many, no doubt.

          • montsegur April 6, 2019 at 2:24 am #

            Now, now, Walter. The Fed is our friend. Or isn’t that what we were always told?

            Cheers

          • Walter B April 6, 2019 at 8:52 am #

            We have certainly been duped into thinking that now montsegur. But if the Beast From Jekyll Island was all that good for US(A), you wouldn’t think they would have had to been ushered in so covertly now would you?

  12. JustSaying April 5, 2019 at 10:47 am #

    Great post! But we all knew that the inquiry would just morph into something else.

    My real concern is how the FISA warrants were approved based on the dodgy Hillary dossier. That to me is the critical legal issue here.

    • Nightowl April 5, 2019 at 10:55 am #

      Corruption. It was planned. We have proof of corruption in the FBI, DOJ, the media, etc.

      Wait until it comes out that Obama was aware of and participated in the orchestration. He will be the last domino to fall and there is a redacted text message from Peter Strozck in which his name is the only plausible one to fill in the blank.

  13. volodya April 5, 2019 at 11:05 am #

    Civilizational collapse doesn’t generally come out of one, all consuming fubar like a societal fireball. IMO collapse is a day-by-day degradation like a collective senility where people eventually forget what came before, that the boarded up buildings used to employ two thousand men at bread-winner wages, that no-go zones used to have family owned grocery stores and a multitude of other activities that formerly comprised the country’s productive ecosystem.

    It’s the same with the infrastructure that JHK wrote about, like dams. And corroding bridges, hundred year old water mains, twitchy electrical grids.

    And the institutional infrastructure is just as decayed. You can’t swing a dead cat without hitting an example, but the farcical system of higher “education” is one. As is the just as laughable elementary system, whose main output is the opposite, ie semi-literate know-nothings.

    How a country managed to devise these two money-pits is a cause for wonderment, and especially colleges where students emerge after four years no more intellectually adept than when they went in.

    The degradation of the “justice” system is maybe even more alarming. What we’ve had with this years-long Russia collusion nonsense is various enforcement arms of the state doing their damndest to overturn an election, giving it a veneer of due process, but not fooling anyone anyone with normally functioning bullshit detectors.

    But this is how collapse is, and maybe before we go too deep with the over-arching abstractions, maybe it would be useful to look at the contents – or lack thereof – of our own skulls.

    Ask the guy beside you; how fucked up are you? Ask yourself the same thing.

    It seems to me that collapse comes as much from collective sloth and indifference, a sort of mental or behavioral entropy, as anywhere else.

    What to do, what to do. I dunno, maybe start small. And this is just a start: put down the fucking smart-phone. Better still, throw it in the lake. Then clean the house, rake the lawn, sit down with the morass of credit card balances and put some mental elbow-grease into figuring a way out of the mess.

    Bring your lunch to work. Stop fucking burning money at Starbucks and instead bring a thermos.

    Go to the library. Pick up Trollope, maybe something like The Way We Live Now. Or something by Dickens. If you really want to test your brain cells, get a translation of Dante’s Inferno. Or maybe get Paradise Lost. Lots to choose from. You’ll need the stamina of a canal horse to get through some of that old shit, but it’s worth the bother. And READ the fucking thing. READ. Don’t play fucking video games. Stay the fuck off you-tube and facebook. READ. READ what the old dead white guys wrote. They were smarter than we are. You can’t help but improve your mental function.

    If civilizational collapse comes from an accumulation of small acts of laziness and idiocy then maybe small acts of sharpness and alacrity will stave it off, maybe buy some time.

    Of course we carry the weight of a malevolent ruling class, a relative handful of self-dealing incompetents. What to do with those dick-heads?

    • Farmer Joe April 5, 2019 at 11:25 am #

      “If civilizational collapse comes from an accumulation of small acts of laziness and idiocy then maybe small acts of sharpness and alacrity will stave it off, maybe buy some time.”

      How much do you want to bet that ends up being the grand solution that so many are looking for? The answer not in government or God, but in our own hearts. Someone should make a movie about that.

      • So many liars April 5, 2019 at 11:54 am #

        Not sure why anyone would engage in “small acts of sharpness and alacrity” unless they have faith. Faith in God, government, or their fellow man.
        Perhaps the lack of such faith is at the heart of the laziness and idiocy – small acts and large acts.

        • Farmer Joe April 5, 2019 at 11:58 am #

          Faith in themselves…?

        • volodya April 5, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

          Perhaps the lack of such faith is at the heart of the laziness and idiocy – small acts and large acts.

          Yeah, maybe.

          But look at “small acts of sharpness and alacrity” also as a matter of self-interest, so as not to be a bumbling idiot daily shitting your own bed, ruining your family, destroying your kids’ prospects.

          But also to not be SEEN as a bumbling idiot, ie somebody who’s on top of things, who’s to be taken seriously, who’s not to be tested, who’s not to be messed with.

          What you do at home, in the confines of your own house, doesn’t necessarily stay there. If you make a mess of your marriage let’s say because you and your wife are dick-heads and cannot manage money and cannot add and subtract and multiply like any ten year old should be able to, it affects your kids. If you want to fuck your kids up good and proper, if you want to create stressed out disasters, start by screwing up your relationship with your wife over money matters, then subject your kids to daily rounds of marital combat, and then get divorced. I’ve seen it. When your kids become mental cases it imposes societal costs.

          As to “faith”, there’s no guarantees in life, by its nature this is an uncertain world. You take a deep breath and do what you have to and hope it turns out ok.

          • Farmer Joe April 5, 2019 at 1:23 pm #

            I like this. Our actions are like ripples in a pond.

          • abbybwood April 5, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

            Speaking of “faith”, I see where Rep. Tim Ryan of Ohio is running for President as a Democrat.

            He wrote interesting books about mindfulness and also about diet and the environment:

            “The Real Food Revolution” and “A Mindful Nation: How A Simple Practice Can Help Us Reduce Stress”.

            Right now he is flying way under the radar, but…..

          • volodya April 5, 2019 at 2:12 pm #

            abbybwood, haven’t read the book but i imagine it would have in it something like don’t eat processed crap, don’t eat junk-food, eat lotsa veggies, eat a mixture of foodstuffs, don’t eat too much and stay away from restaurants ie cook it yourself.

            Trump never flew under the radar but he wasn’t taken seriously. If Tim Ryan manages to address people’s legitimate material worries like decent paying, long-term jobs, reasonably priced drugs and medical care, schools that actually teach, I would imagine he’d stand head and shoulders above the crowd. It’s lie Mark Shields said after Trump won, the Democrats lost because of too much LGBTQ. I’ve said it before, more talk about breakfast, lunch and dinner and less about trannies, gays and migrants, and whoever can do that much has a shot at the Oval Office.

          • volodya April 5, 2019 at 2:14 pm #

            typo “it’s LIKE Mark Shields said…”

          • hmuller April 5, 2019 at 5:01 pm #

            The Democrats could be dangerous if they ever figured out that many Latinos, and almost all blacks don’t welcome a massive influx of immigrants – competing for their jobs and soaking up available welfare benefits.

    • Q. Shtik April 5, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

      Janos (and Volodya),

      A week or two ago the subject here was all about the imminent collapse of the ‘American Empire’ and Western Civilization in general. This naturally led to discussion of, or reference to, the most famous collapse of them all, the Roman Empire.

      I borrowed from my local library a 7 disc set of lectures titled the Decline and Fall of Rome by Thomas F. Madden. At the suggestion of a commenter here I also took out a book titled The Fall of the Roman Empire – A Reappraisal by Michael Grant.

      Both of these sources confirm what I have said for the past 10 years: that there is nothing new under the sun, nor WILL there be. Rome foretells America’s destiny. Nothing has changed except togas and sandals have become jeans and sneakers.

      Walter B, our own frustrated functionary of upper west central New Jersey will nod knowingly at the purple prose of ancient historians.

      I imagine you, Janos, running a full page ad:

      WANTED:
      NATIONAL SOCIALISM ZEALOTS
      To Make People Shape Up or Ship Out
      …OR ELSE!!!

      All for naught… ain’t gonna happen. The issues are ever the same: taxes, the manning and cost of fielding an effective Army, bureaucratic corruption, barbarians at the gates, and so on and so forth. (Something we haven’t had for awhile is a spate of political assassinations. To judge by Rome, we are long overdue.) Read, in particular the chapters about, The Poor, The Rich and The Middle Class Against the State. It goes back 1,800 years but is like reading today’s newspaper.

      • benr April 5, 2019 at 12:39 pm #

        Some could argue there have been some questionable deaths possibly rising to the term political inspired hits.
        Seth Rich
        Michael Hastings
        But of course as always there are explainable things it’s not like they died with polonium in their bodies.

      • Farmer Joe April 5, 2019 at 1:26 pm #

        “WANTED:
        NATIONAL SOCIALISM ZEALOTS
        To Make People Shape Up or Ship Out
        …OR ELSE!!!”

        I wonder how many Bernie supporters would show up.

      • volodya April 5, 2019 at 1:32 pm #

        Thanks for the Madden tip.

        Maybe we’re overdue for the political rub-outs, but as benr reminds us, we do have a couple stiffs to account for.

        And yeah, there’s parallels between today and way back then. History may not repeat but as Twain sez, it really does rhyme.

        What we may want is to have a look at is what came after Rome’s collapse. We may be able to buy some time, but nothing goes on forever. So, the question is what did people living in former territories of the empire do, let’s say in the late fifth century and sixth century.

        I read that the Roman senate continued to meet until early in the seventh century. I wonder what they talked about.

        There WAS a Roman emperor still on the throne in Constantinople and that part of the empire lived on for another thousand years. So it’s not like civilization suddenly switched off the lights.

      • malthuss April 5, 2019 at 3:52 pm #

        You read about Samantha, the nice Jewish woman from NJ, killed by the man with the huge nostrils?

        One person said some nostrils are so thick that bullets will bounce off of them.

      • Q. Shtik April 5, 2019 at 10:46 pm #

        a book titled The Fall of the Roman Empire – A Reappraisal by Michael Grant. – Q.

        ==========

        About this book, I thought you might enjoy this hilarious description of ‘the Huns’ by the historian Ammianus…….

        “The people of the Huns exceed every degree of savagery…. They all have compact, strong limbs and thick necks, and are monstrously ugly and misshapen. They eat roots of wild plants and the half raw flesh of any kind of animal whatever, which they put between their thighs and the backs of their horses, and thus warm it a little.

        Not even a hut thatched with reed can be found among them…. They dress in linen cloth or in the skins of field mice sewn together, and they wear the same clothing indoors and out until it has been reduced to rags and fallen from them bit by bit. They cover their heads with round caps and protect their hairy legs with goatskins.

        They are almost glued to their horses, which are hardy, it is true, but ugly, and sometimes they sit on them woman-fashion and relieve themselves in that position….”

        And there is an equally unflattering description of their leader, Attila, who, by the way, murdered his brother. See page 51.

        • volodya April 6, 2019 at 10:34 am #

          Qshtik; fun stuff about the Huns

          I read a while back that Attila spent a good deal of time living in the imperial Roman court as a young man as part of a hostage exchange between the Romans and the Huns. To guarantee peace for a time they exchanged young noblemen, Huns for Romans, so young Romans also went to live with the Huns.

          If this account is true, then Attila got to know Latin and got to know Roman ways and culture.

          There was another blurb I read that said that the name “Attila” is a Goth diminutive for father (Atta) ie daddy.

          I read somewhere also about that Hunnic habit of storing meat under the saddle so when they got hungry they’d just carve off a piece.

          What is surprising to me is that for all the mayhem they caused, nobody really knows where those people came from. Some speculate that they came from the steppes of Kazakhstan, some think that the Chinese writings about a people they called the Hsiung-Nu refers to the Huns. Some think that they came west as part of a huge throng because they couldn’t go east because the Chinese had built the Great Wall.

          I also read that the modern name “Hungary” comes from a tribe of Huns called the Onogur which means “Ten Arrows”.

          Also, some people speculate that Odoacer was the offspring of a Goth father and a Hunnic princess, some speculate he was full-bore Hun.

          • Q. Shtik April 6, 2019 at 11:12 am #

            I also read that the modern name “Hungary” comes from a tribe of Huns called the Onogur – volodya

            ============

            A few years ago I had a Hungarian immigrant guy fix my slate roof (he did nice work) and his name was Attila. It is not every day you run into someone named Attila.

      • Q. Shtik April 6, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

        The issues are ever the same: – Q.

        ============

        I forgot to include in my list the debasement of the currency (which in the case of Rome was coinage). They routinely diluted the precious metal content of their coins until they were virtually worthless.

        I haven’t looked at the statistics since I retired in ’06 but I believe the dollar at that time had lost 98% of its value since the inception of the Fed in 1913.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 1:54 pm #

      Most only read the Inferno – and that says everything about our character. The most educated are the worst – proud of their damnable cynicism and snark.

      Read Clive Barker’s “The Hell Bound Heart”. Joe is right about this. Man needs religion to tell him how horrible he is and suggest he take the other path, no matter how distasteful it may seem to be.

      • Farmer Joe April 5, 2019 at 2:44 pm #

        I never said, “Man needs religion.” Nor do I believe this, but I think it is helpful for some. My current views on religion can more or less be summed up by this video:

        youtu.be/aWx_uVDh4Cw

        • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 3:33 pm #

          I never said that you did say it. I’m saying it. My views can be summed up by the above post – same as George Washington’s: Only highly educated people, strangely formed, can be good without the belief in God.

        • TPTB-USA April 6, 2019 at 6:02 pm #

          Joe, it would be interesting to see that experiment performed with a set of kids in the 50s, and with kids of the Japanese culture.

          Perhaps I am just dumb, but I do not believe that I would have “gamed the system”.

    • TPTB-USA April 5, 2019 at 7:11 pm #

      vodolya, my 2 cents is that a civilizational collapse is the end of a flawed “System”, and that “collective sloth and indifference” is just a symptom/consequence..

      Look to human nature for an understanding of the problems/issues, and once they are understood, look to history for the solution.

      Living organisms come pre-programed to “game the system”. It is a subset of our survival instinct, and like any addiction, there is a constant appeal.

      The object of the current “System” is to win the game, where winner takes all; and as the “System” evolves, disparity goes to the extreme. Polarization is the human nature reaction/consequence of disparity at the extreme.

      Joe’s video clip shows kids “gaming the system” at a young age, and as Joe eluded, while it may curtail selfish behavior, religion does not solve the problem.

      Look to morality for the solution. Ultimately, just as the fairy in the chair will not solve the problem, you can’t legislate morality. Morality has to come from within each individual, and my thoughts are that conditioning provides the best set. High morality is where there is respect for all things. For high morality conditioning to take, there has to be exemplary examples to follow. The head/s of household need to set the examples for the kids. The community needs to set the example for the parents. The State needs to set the examples for the communities. And so on, and so forth.

      The current “System” is flawed in that it promotes “gaming the system” as long as you do it within the “rules”. The “System” is at a point where both sides are “right”. One side is technically/legally right, and the other side is morally right, and at this point the “System” has evolved to where it rewards and sides with those that are technically/legally right (to do otherwise would be hypocritical, and it would not be able to justify its existence). One side is saying I am starving to death, while the other side is saying that they have gamed the system according to the rules, and they deserve their just reward (and the other sides problem is not theirs).

      Current events are nothing more than symptoms of a failed “System”. Rather than trying to apply a Band-Aid to each event, our focus should be on devising a new “System”. In that regard, I believe that it may be too late, and that China will be the dominant player that gets to pick the next “System”, and make the rules. Then it will be our turn as a nation to play the game, or loose by default.

      • volodya April 6, 2019 at 11:35 am #

        You could argue that the people funding political parties are the ones who tell politicians how to make the rules. Of course he who pays the piper calls the tune. So, they make the rules and then game those same rules. Your bigger point is right, it’s the survival imperative at work.

        And, ironically, the rules as they are now, set up for the advantage of those few dozen billionaires who fund the Democrats and Republicans, are at the root of what ails the USA and much of the western world. Those rules are in effect the death warrant of the world economic order, but especially that of the USA and the rest of the formerly industrial west.

        Will those few billionaires survive the collapse? Some might, but in order to live through it with some of their fortune intact, they’d have to make an arrangement with the new hegemon, that probably being China. Outside the context of the nation state, those numbers on the balance sheets and income statements of the Davos class are meaningless, those assets nonexistent outside the legal environment inside of which they were forged, and their rights to ownership unenforceable.

        But who will be the nation state that does the enforcement? Having done their damndest to undermine the existence of that structure that protects them, they won’t be able to count on the spavined remains of the USA or the ruined remnants of its erstwhile allies. They’d have to rely on Chinese enforcement mechanisms. And what are the odds that the Chinese wouldn’t just carve it all up for themselves?

        As you say, morality is the solution, or at least a big piece of the puzzle. The other is to not ruin the productive ecosystem that sustains you, to not saw through the limb you’re sitting on.

    • montsegur April 6, 2019 at 1:22 am #

      volodya, that was a refreshing comment to read. Some comments:

      As is the just as laughable elementary system, whose main output is the opposite, ie semi-literate know-nothings.

      Perhaps it went wrong when the focus moved away from the “three R’s”. But more than that, I believe several influences fed off of each other, and in the process, distorted the elementary schooling beyond all recognition. Economic pressures meant both parents had to work, thus school became a place for the children to be when the parents were not at home — a notion that has nothing to do with learning. Compounding this was the desire of political factions to use schools as vehicles to instill “correct thinking” — again, nothing to do with learning. Finally, the government’s desire for control meant people HAD to send their children to the school system unless the parents could afford other means of education, and even today, means of education outside of the public system are a topic of bitter and partisan political debate. While there may have been some good intent in requiring children to be schooled, ultimately it turned into an exercise of power that had nothing to do with learning.

      And this is just a start: put down the fucking smart-phone.

      Amen. And back away from the internet. And turn off the TV. Shut down the constant distraction, allow the emotions to settle and the mind to gather.

      And yes, DO something. Make some headway, even if it is small at first. With repetition, the effectiveness of actions taken will increase, as will the efficiency with which one takes them.

      One addition to your suggested reading list, and it may at first seem surprising.

      Education of Wandering Man, by … Louis L’Amour.

      Not one of his iconic Western novels. It is his life story, and what a life it was. Yeah, I know, another old dead white guy, but in that volume is a wealth of wisdom and, as a plus, it is an enjoyable read.

      Cheers

      • montsegur April 6, 2019 at 2:32 am #

        Correction, the title should have been, Education of a Wandering Man.

        Cheers

      • volodya April 6, 2019 at 11:57 am #

        Mont, like you say, so much of the so-called education system geared to not learning but other things, and maybe also geared to safeguard the economic interests of edu-crat officialdom. Is this branch of the civil service there for the people it’s mandated to serve or is the bureaucracy there to serve itself? For instance, how hard is it to get rid of an incompetent teacher?

        Remember Michelle Rhee? How hard was it for her to get anything done in the D.C. school system? I remember one situation where she was hearing teachers screaming that they were unable to get the textbooks they needed only to find that the textbooks were already bought long ago and gathering dust in storage facilities. This simple thing, the moving of books from point A to point B, points to a lot of people up and down the chain not doing their jobs. Who were those people serving, the interests of the community in having educated, literate kids? Or themselves, ie doing as little work as humanly possible?

        Your point I think is right, that there’s a lot of stuff going on that’s got nothing to do with imparting useful knowledge. Maybe when parents start paying attention and start giving a damn about kids that can read, who know their times-tables, who can do long division like it’s second nature, that’s when things start to change. But what are the odds?

        I’ve never read L’Amour. I’ll have a go at that “Education” book you suggest. .

        • TPTB-USA April 6, 2019 at 7:59 pm #

          I am more inclined to think that the education problems you (sorry for misspelling your name) and montsegur cite are a combination of human nature and a flawed system that tries to compensate for its shortcomings, rather than by intentional misconduct.

          The electronic devices are no doubt addictive contributing factors, for the adults as well as the kids, but times are also changing, and it may be that how one has to function to “game the rat race” is different than we perceive (today’s lack of time being an additional detrimental factor)?

          The following videos might offer a perspective of the evolution of how people have to function in todays world.

          FRONTLINE (this is a 2008 production)
          Young & Restless in China
          pbs.org/video/frontline-young-restless-in-china/

          … and I assume that this one is fairly current:
          bbc.com/storyworks/culture/meet-the-makers/chinas-millennials-create-their-own-futures

          • volodya April 7, 2019 at 2:30 pm #

            TPTB

            Thanks for the links. No doubt there’s going to have to be a lot of improvisation as you get from an economic order that’s manifestly not workable, that relies on QE infusions to keep it vertical, to an arrangement that’s sustainable, that has a hope in hell. I hope your take on things w.r.t. the education system is the more accurate because for sure it’s the more hopeful one.

          • TPTB-USA April 8, 2019 at 1:47 am #

            volodya, to expand on this, and add a few more thoughts, consider the experiment that Farmer Joe referenced, and think in terms of a class of kids with various (dis) abilities.

            Working with a system where winner takes all, if the instructions are verbal, those that are deaf will likely loose.

            So, in an attempt to reconcile the situation, some administrator gets to impose their grand solution, which fails to consider all factors and consequences, and ultimately does not afford satisfaction for those that are deaf.

            Factor in all the combinations and permutations, and presto, we have the current lash-up.

            I would suggest that a more equitable and beneficial solution would be to change the object of the game form one where winner takes all, to one where the group benefits as a whole.

            The problem for any of this that all “systems” are subject to being gamed (both internally, and externally). In that regard, it would be beneficial if a nation was comprised of individuals with high moral values, and loyalty to each other.

            Perhaps I am out of date and idealistic, but I think like you and montsegur suggest, the focus of elementary school needs to be on teaching the basics. And for those with special abilities, help them comprehend their situation, and being unimpeded, hopefully, like everyone else, they will find their path in life.

            Dawoud Bey on photography as a ‘transformative experience’ Mar 15, 2019 6:35 PM EDT
            pbs.org/newshour/show/dawoud-bey-on-photography-as-a-transformative-experience

  14. K-Dog April 5, 2019 at 11:18 am #

    Sucker punched again.

    And aside from border controversies, Russiagate has pushed policy to the fringes of the screen, a favorable development for all parties involved.

    There will be no reckoning for anyone who dissimulated or deceived on behalf of the Democrats, the deep state, or their particular news channel. None whatsoever.

    from: Boulevard of Broken (Bourgeois) Dreams

    People lie more, the oil trains get longer, and the rock dries out.

    • Ol' Scratch April 5, 2019 at 11:55 am #

      THAT is brilliant analysis and writing!

      “Aside from the generational spectacle of something like Russiagate, the quotidian political pantomime now functions like clockwork. Here’s an example: As Democracy at Work’s Richard Wolff recently raged in one of his more animated videos, President Trump, going against his campaign promise not to touch Medicare, has recommended a new budget that slashes trillions from Medicaid and billions from Medicare, Social Security, food stamps, and other social programs. Predictably, he also asks for an extra $50 billion for the thoroughly unaccountable and wantonly extravagant Pentagon, which had remarkably only asked for an extra $30 billion above its record-setting budget of this year. Wolff spelled out precisely what will happen next: The Republicans propose something obscene, the Democrats respond with something less obscene but which still satisfies the bottomless greed of the defense industry, and the two parties come to an agreement that satisfies the Pentagon. The Republicans will be happy to have positioned themselves as warmongering berserkers who value nothing so much as profitable violence, while the Democrats will tell their delusional base that they have bravely battled the vulgar rightwing degenerates and negotiated back the horrifying largesse of the Military Industrial Complex (MIC), while still keeping us safe from the myriad phantoms of western Orientalism. Congress will hurl a giant piece of dripping flesh into the seething maw of the Cyclopean MIC. Philistines of both sides of the aisle will then parade with puffed chests before their sarcophagus of fake patriots and crisis junkies. And crucially, the press will report all this with a straight face.

      Meanwhile, the millions that sleep over grates and the tens of million that are poor without prospects, sick without care, angry without recourse, and shouting but unheard, will watch their meager selection of crumbs dwindle away. Those stale crusts from headier times will be briefly heralded by liberals as the triumph of incrementalism before they quickly shift gears into soaring platitudes about women and minorities deserving their rightful place behind the gears of the machinery of inequality.”

      • ozone April 5, 2019 at 12:25 pm #

        Great catch, youse guys!
        Horrific, but accurate.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 2:00 pm #

        Quite so. We are betrayed again. The Liar and Chief or Chief Liar is the Joker. One is reminded of Wilson and FDR, both of whom promised peace and delivered War. Both were gifted servants of the Hidden Power, the Global Slave Masters who have now come out into the open and demanded World Government.

      • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 2:15 am #

        I am so hurt and let down that he didn’t live up to his promises. And to think that really the entire political spectrum as presented stands for the same things. They just talk differently but their actions bring us to the same bad places.

        • Ol' Scratch April 6, 2019 at 8:09 am #

          In Trump’s defense and assuming he was ever what he said he was in the first place, the entrenched powers in DC were never going to let him carry out his own agenda in the first place. That’s both the blessing and the curse of our current system, and guarantees that we won’t be able to deal with game changing events such as AGW, peak oil, and overpopulation, to name just a few. The American ship of state is a huge oil tanker navigating in tiny pond, manned by a renegade lying crew with its own agenda, ponderously slow to change course, and easily run aground.

        • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 4:35 pm #

          I do understand what you mean. Our system was made to be inflexible as a safeguard. But that is also a weakness during times of rapid change. And it doesn’t seem like there is much we can do to change it now. Almost like a situation of letting the chips fall where they may. That is scary.

  15. Soloview April 5, 2019 at 11:20 am #

    Yes, these obstruction howls are a red herring. It’s the last hope for beef in a nothing-burger. Mueller must have known that he could not get anywhere with such a charge, given there was no crime the investigation of which Trump sought to thwart. As Andrew McCarthy said, the president was ticked at Russiagate as the work of a witches’ cabal. Saying that insufficient evidence did not exonerate Trump fully is an incredibly nasty thing to say for a prosecutor. Had he been on the level, Mueller would have allowed that Trump’s agonistic posturing to his investigation was fully due to the president’s firmly held belief that no collusion had taken place by his campaign. The result of Mueller’s probe fully justified the prez’ rhetoric, nasty as it may have been in its own right.

  16. SW April 5, 2019 at 11:37 am #

    Something to think about —

    “As many have noted during the past week, Robert Mueller and his legal sell-swords must have been aware for nigh onto two years, at least, that the accusation that Trump’s campaign colluded with the Russians had no evidentiary support. Nonetheless, per the attorney general’s summary letter to Congress, the investigation spent tens of millions of dollars, employed 19 lawyers and 40 other professional staff, issued 2,800 subpoenas, executed 500 search warrants, obtained more than 230 orders for communications records, authorized almost 50 pen registers, made 13 document requests to foreign governments, and interviewed 500 witnesses.”

    Read more: americanthinker.com/articles/2019/04/muellers_chevauche_burn_everyone_and_everything_trump_loves.htm…

    • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 1:58 pm #

      That’s right. Now let’s see the report.

  17. seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 11:44 am #

    First of all this notion that the Steele Dossier is what prompted the Mueller investigation is hogwash. Trump’s hiring of Manafort is the primary reason. Manafort is up to his eyeballs in Russians, money laundering, skulduggery in general. He had a pipeline to the Kremlin. Once the Republican platform changed on Ukraine, it was axiomatic that he be investigated. Only a buffoon was wonder otherwise. B, Trump obviously obstructed justice saying he fired Comey over the Russian thing. He admitted it. Mueller didn’t have to make the case. He didn’t need evidence. It’s on film. Trump said it. He cannot be impeached because 40% of the country are behind him. It is only the information in the Mueller Report that has a chance, albeit minuscule- we are talking about Trumptards here, that has a remote chance of changing people’e minds about Trump. That is what he has to defend at all costs. If his base see treason inhis action they might turn on him. 3, and monkees might fly out of my butt ha ha ha hahaha ha Trumpards fooled again.

  18. ozone April 5, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

    Jim,
    I believe you’ve encapsulated this whole exercise in mendacious collusion (the *actual* collusion) very well. Thanks.
    Anyone with a couple brain cells to rub together could see that the Steele Dossier was a laughable construct to build a FISA case on *from the get-go*. (Garbage in; garbage out.)

    As to this:
    “The objective apparently is to keep Mr. Trump burdened, hobbled, and disabled for the remainder of his term, and especially in preparation for the 2020 election against whoever emerges from the crowd of lightweights and geriatric cases now roistering through the primary states.”

    Ah, but there IS one who is neither lightweight nor geriatric, and her name ain’t Harris or Warren. She also brings a clear-eyed and pragmatic agenda with her, being both a soldier for the Empire and knowing the very real constraints of living on an island. This brings one to a serious practical bent; a quality not welcomed in The Land of Delusions. I think we can see why she is getting absolutely no press, even though she is on the dreaded “campaign trail”.

    Further, I’m liking volodya’s way of expressing some forward thinking on this topic:

    “What we’ve had with this years-long Russia collusion nonsense is various enforcement arms of the state doing their damndest to overturn an election, giving it a veneer of due process, but not fooling anyone anyone with normally functioning bullshit detectors.

    But this is how collapse is, and maybe before we go too deep with the over-arching abstractions, maybe it would be useful to look at the contents – or lack thereof – of our own skulls.”

    Too right! Thanks, V.

    • Q. Shtik April 5, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

      and her name ain’t Harris or Warren. – Oz

      ============

      I guess we’re just supposed to KNOW who the frig you’re talking about. Sorry, I haven’t a clue.

      • ozone April 5, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

        “I guess we’re just supposed to KNOW who the frig you’re talking about. Sorry, I haven’t a clue.”

        Q.,
        I would guess not having a clue would be the problem, eh?
        Why don’t you? I gave all the “clues” necessary. The fact you can’t put this together is telling. (Just as I thought it might be for the majority of Boobus Americanus).

        Oh, want another clue? It ain’t Klobuchar either. Now go perform your due diligence or refrain from voting for a presidential candidate, FF’s sake.

        **Apologies for being harsh, Q., I’m just tired of “easy answers” and their proponents.

        • Q. Shtik April 5, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

          Now go perform your due diligence or refrain from voting – Oz

          ===========

          Perhaps you have forgotten, I haven’t voted for decades…and I point this out every time an election comes around. I would explain my line of reasoning but I don’t want to bore people.

          • volodya April 5, 2019 at 1:57 pm #

            I’d be interested in hearing it.

        • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 2:05 pm #

          Ozone hates explaining himself for some reason. Thus he will never sit at the Right Hand of the Throne. He prefers to play riddles in the darkness, the Truth is a Black Cat in a dark room from his pov – but it IS there. You just don’t deserve it, you see….

          But I’ll play along with a Hint: She’s from an island. And btw, I agree with him on her being the best out there, at least among the Democrats.

          • Q. Shtik April 5, 2019 at 2:30 pm #

            OK, I’ll take a stab…………..Oprah 🙂

          • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 2:47 pm #

            Oprah’s not a candidate, not yet anyway. So wrong answer. I know but you don’t. Just like on so many things….

          • hmuller April 5, 2019 at 11:51 pm #

            Tulsi Gabbard will have a hard time getting the blessing of the Zionists. Even Trump had to bow and scrape before the elders.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 12:42 am #

            She has shamed herself by coming out in favor of gay marriage. Prabhupad must be rolling in his grave. Yet is she hadn’t, she wouldn’t have gotten even this far – so far gone is the West.

          • Q. Shtik April 6, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

            Prabhupad must be rolling in his grave. – Janos

            ============

            A Google search tells me the dude’s name ends with the letter ‘a’…….. but be that as it may, with all the Swamis, Gurus and spiritual teachers in India they can’t get the act of shitting to be less offensive. Why do you give these people your undivided attention?

        • montsegur April 6, 2019 at 2:38 am #

          (Just as I thought it might be for the majority of Boobus Americanus).

          ozone, allow me to reassure you that B. Americanus has much company, particularly among the closely related B. Europaeus.

          Inability to effectively reason is widespread.

          Cheers

  19. seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 12:19 pm #

    The fucking emails again. You are a one trick. Beat that nag. Over and over. I bet Trumptards wake up in the middle of the night screaming “Hillary’s emails, Hilary’s emails,” sweat pouring from their Trumptard furrowed brows. Not one sentence refuted the Manafort/Russia connection. Of all the people he could have picked he picks Comrade Manafort. That’s about as unwitting as Brutus standing over Caesar’s body saying “Yeah, me too.”

    • FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

      It’s not about emails, it is about top state secrets, including identities of US undercover agents, on the unsecured server outside of US government system.

      The actual fact of that kind of information being transferred to unsecured private server is a crime in itself covered by US Espionage Act.

    • benr April 5, 2019 at 12:52 pm #

      No not the illegal Hillary server the actual democrat party servers!
      Poor lil soggy dog I almost feel sorry for you and your errant belief system and absolute unbridled hate for our sitting President!

  20. seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 12:25 pm #

    You mean like Valerie Plame?

  21. Elrond Hubbard April 5, 2019 at 12:31 pm #

    Austerity Ecology & the Collapse-porn Addicts: A defence of growth, progress, industry and stuff
    Modernity is not the cause of our ecological woes. Only through a deepening of our modernity can we save the planet.

    zero-books.net/books/austerity-ecology-collapse-porn-addicts

    “Economic growth, progress, industry and, erm, stuff have all come in for a sharp kicking from the green left and beyond in recent years. Everyone from black-hoodied Starbucks window-smashers to farmers’ market heirloom-tomato-mongers to Prince Charles himself seem to be embracing ‘degrowth’ and anti-consumerism, which is nothing less than a form of ecological austerity. Meanwhile, the back-to-the-land ideology and aesthetic of locally-woven organic carrot-pants, pathogen-encrusted compost toilets and civilisational collapse is hegemonic.

    “Yet modernity is not the cause of climate change and the wider biocrisis. It is indeed capitalism that is the source of our environmental woes, but capitalism as a mode of production, not the fuzzy understanding of capitalism of Naomi Klein, Bill McKibben, Derrick Jensen, Paul Kingsnorth and their anarcho-liberal epigones as a sort of globalist corporate malfeasance.

    “In combative and puckish style, science journalist Leigh Phillips marshals evidence from climate science, ecology, paleoanthropology, agronomy, microbiology, psychology, history, the philosophy of mathematics, and heterodox economics to argue that progressives must rediscover their historic, Promethean ambitions and counter this reactionary neo-Malthusian ideology that not only retards human flourishing, but won’t save the planet anyway.

    “We want to take over the machine and run it rationally, not turn the machine off.”

    (My emphasis added.) Hmm, sounds like an interesting read. Certainly a welcome alternative to the austerian narrative — that there is no alternative to a slide back to the world before the French Revolution — which pretty much holds sway in these precincts.

    After giving one of his talks to a group of students, Mr. Kunstler once retorted, in answer to a question, that he is “not a hope dispenser”. Events will tell in any case, but it would be nice to think we have at least some prospect of holding on to a few things. For example: scientific (i.e. effective) medicine, vaccines and antibiotics; satellites and computers that enable earth monitoring and forecasting; decent hygiene and availability of clean water; drudgery-saving devices that lift regular people above subsistence level, and afford them time for leisure and development; and many of the other concrete material benefits of organized society with a meaningful supply of non-muscle-bound energy. All these things can’t be simply dismissed as “the ability to drive to Wal-mart”. Some of them are worth preserving in themselves, which means it’s worth preserving some level of social complexity that makes them possible.

    At any rate, I’ll be reading this book sooner than I expect to be finishing WMBH. I dropped that out of boredom midway, through book #3 — just where JHK was sharing some of his more interesting world-building, too.

    • Exscotticus April 5, 2019 at 6:49 pm #

      >>> Yet modernity is not the cause of climate change and the wider biocrisis. It is indeed capitalism that is the source of our environmental woes

      If you take away all STEM that was generated by capitalism, what sort of “modernity” would you have left?

      Capitalism is the source of our environmental woes? Not billions of humans and counting?

      • Ol' Scratch April 6, 2019 at 8:01 am #

        Yes, but capitalism and overpopulation are attached at the hip. You can’t have one without the other.

        • Exscotticus April 6, 2019 at 5:39 pm #

          So Mao Zedong’s overpopulated China was practicing capitalism? So overpopulated India is more capitalist than the USA? So the USA is more capitalist now than it was in the era of the Robber barons, as indicated by our greater population now as compared to then?

        • Walter B April 7, 2019 at 9:03 am #

          Well Scratch, capitalism certainly leads to consumerism, and population growth to a point. However, once affluence and greed become the rule of the day, populations stop growing and actually shrink because consumers soon realize that children are expensive to have and maintain. Yes, the kiddies get in the way of acquiring bigger McMansions, more luxury cars, and exotic vacations, don’t they, at least for the middle classes. Even the undocumented, ethnic replacements have been breeding less now that they realized this fact. This is one of the reasons that those whose who advocate open borders do so, for the poor starving masses like to fornicate and replicate and they need slaves and votes. For the poor huddled masses, fornication is a far cheaper form of entertainment and their birthrates prove this. Just ask China, India, Bangladesh, et al.

          • GreenAlba April 7, 2019 at 9:47 am #

            Walter, the rarely-used and rather archaic term ‘fornication’ refers to sexual intercourse particularly with someone to whom one is not married. It’s not a word intended to show disapproval of sex per se.

            All human populations have sex, apart from some celibate religious groups, and individuals who either don’t have the opportunity or are asexual. Humans are sexual beings. Reductions in population don’t result primarily from not having sex, but from using contraception – and/or from high mortality rates.

            My mother was one of eight children and my husband is one of seven (the Irish came late to the idea of smaller families). My husband’s father, who begat those seven children, was a graduate chemist. My mother’s working-class family were upstanding (church-going) members of their community, not impoverished huddled masses. But they clearly enjoyed the same form of perfectly natural ‘entertainment’ that everyone else did – it just wasn’t cheap because children are expensive to keep, although not so expensive back then as now.

            A lot of countries could do with more readily available contraception – and education. But they don’t need to be vilified because they have sex like everyone else.

          • GreenAlba April 7, 2019 at 10:07 am #

            And I’d include in ‘education’ for those problematic countries, some discussion of issues mentioned on this board (usually with a lot of contempt thrown in) about responsibilities at nation-state level, in terms of not encouraging people to have – in fact positively dissuading people from having – excess children and then trying to solve the ensuing problems by taking them en masse to other countries to solve their overpopulation problems.

            It’s hard to get people to extrapolate from their big loving family to a nation with too many people and not enough legitimate opportunities or resources generally. It’s not something even people in advanced countries want to do when they consider their own six children to be an entirely personal issue.

            None of which absolves western countries from responsibility for damage they do directly (wars; planting western-friendly dictators) or indirectly (financial chicanery) to poorer countries that make their situation worse. I know you agree with me on that point.

          • Walter B April 7, 2019 at 11:04 am #

            I choose to use the word fornication not as a derogatory word, but because I like it. It sounds so much more special than just “sex” and being blessed to be able to live under the 1st Amendment, well there you go. I was not inquiring as to your genealogy, but thank you for sharing it. I was referring to the poor, huddled masses that are wandering into America right now and was attempting to discern what purpose those that allow them in might have.

            As far as birth control goes, good luck with that. I would dearly love to see any evidence that it works in reducing population problems. Perhaps they should try it in your former colonies of India and Bangladesh where, if I am not mistaken, feeding and caring for the growing populations seems to be more than a little bit underfunded and unsuccessful. Some may see a potential solution in sending large quantities of them to America where eventually the cost of living solves the birthrate problem. Personally I am not thrilled with that idea, but I am just a lone voice, crying in the wilderness.

          • Elrond Hubbard April 7, 2019 at 4:00 pm #

            Walter B, you’re correct to observe that people in wealthier, more developed and modern societies tend to have fewer children than those in poorer and more traditional ones. But I’m dismayed by the misanthropic spin you put on it. Where you identify “affluence and greed” as making the difference, I would point to “sufficiency and a degree of security”.

            Malthus suggested that “we should facilitate, instead of foolishly and vainly endeavouring to impede, the operation of nature in producing mortality … Instead of recommending cleanliness to the poor, we should encourage contrary habits. In our towns we should make the streets narrower, crowd more people into the houses, and court the return of the plague. In the country we should build our villages near stagnant pools, and particularly encourage settlements in all marshy and unwholesome situations. But above all, we should reprobate specific remedies for ravaging diseases… If by these and similar means the annual mortality were increased … we might probably every one of us marry at the age of puberty and yet few be absolutely starved.” How glorious! And all for the greater good, of course, because after all, There Is No Alternative.

            Well, stuff that. We now know that Malthus was wrong, and that working to make people’s lives cleaner, healthier and better resourced actually works out pretty well. Having as many kids as possible is a rational strategy if you’re resigned to losing at least half of them to disease and early mortality. Take away the disease, filth, mortality and insecurity, and people actually change their behaviour — just as you observed, Walter. Let’s have more of that, please. For everyone.

          • Walter B April 7, 2019 at 5:39 pm #

            Elrond, I said that once affluence AND greed (as in the combination of the two) become the rule of the day that breeding slows and maybe even stops. I was not trying to insinuate that affluence = greed for one may exist without the presence of the other. I have been accused of writing too many words in my replies but I do believe that the problem lies when I do not write enough.

          • Exscotticus April 7, 2019 at 10:17 pm #

            >>> However, once affluence and greed become the rule of the day, populations stop growing and actually shrink because consumers soon realize that children are expensive to have and maintain.

            Check your facts. It’s not the wealthy that are siring vast broods. And the wealthy can certainly afford to.

            Every time we accept immigrants fleeing overpopulated breeder-culture nations, we’re subsidizing and encouraging more growth.

            Talk of contraception and education are all red herrings. Contraception is cheap and widely available. But having access to cheap contraception is not the same as actually using it. Breeder cultures have no interest in it. As for education, literacy rates are significantly higher now than 200 years ago, yet the world population increases unabated.

          • Walter B April 8, 2019 at 8:16 am #

            I was not suggesting that the wealthy were breeding without control Exscot. First of all there are not enough of them to have a significant impact on the big picture, and secondly because it is always the serfs that do the most birthing. In the early stages of a society the middle do pretty well too, however their birthrates in nations like ours drops off big time once choices have to be made between stuff and children. That was my point.

          • GreenAlba April 8, 2019 at 8:42 am #

            Walter

            ” I was not inquiring as to your genealogy, but thank you for sharing it.”

            You’re welcome, Walter. I don’t ask for your personal religious views but we’re treated to them unsolicited anyway on a very regular basis.

            But enough of the tit for tat 🙂 . I was mostly trying to get to the same place as you (making it less necessary for foreigners to continue coming en masse to your country), but by a slightly different route, but there we are.

            You said:

            for the poor starving masses like to fornicate and replicate…

            and

            For the poor huddled masses, fornication is a far cheaper form of entertainment and their birthrates prove this.

            So I think I was perfectly entitled to suggest that it is not only the poor starving masses that like to fornicate, and that perhaps it is not the rate of fornication that mostly determines the birth rate. In fact we know already that what mostly lowers birth rates is financial security, the education of women, and healthcare for their families.

            “Perhaps they should try it in your former colonies of India and Bangladesh…”

            They have indeed tried it very successfully in Kerala, starting with improved healthcare and education for women, with provision of contraception, as part of the healthcare package. It works.

            ” Some may see a potential solution in sending large quantities of them to America where eventually the cost of living solves the birthrate problem. Personally I am not thrilled with that idea, but I am just a lone voice, crying in the wilderness.

            I don’t know why you think you are a lone voice, Walter, when I made exactly that point in my post.

            But other issues have to be dealt with too. I came across an article quite accidentally in the National Geographic pointing out how climate change has destroyed crops in vulnerable upland areas of Guatemala, forcing families to flee because they cannot feed themselves any more. Fleeing to you, obviously, but the reason they’re leaving is another problem that apparently we as a species *can’t* resolve.

            And one very influential president claims is a hoax (except where his business is concerned and he has to have a sea defence built to protect his Irish golf course and claims ‘climate change’ on the planning application!).

          • Exscotticus April 8, 2019 at 10:25 am #

            Walter, sorry I missed that you were talking about the middle class. I don’t equate the middle class with “affluence and greed”, and the wealthy are also consumers.

            The middle class are constrained child-wise because—unlike the poor—they’re required to pay for it. And by “required” i mean both legally and culturally. I can assure you that it doesn’t cost an average of 10k USD to give birth in the third world. And those on welfare are not paying that, either.

  22. BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

    At any rate, Good News out of Chicago! Black lesbian elected Mayor!

    Its all about the numbers. If she can cap city pensions at $250,000 per year, and keep the murder stats below 500, I’ll consider her a success. She is a Democratic Socialist, and a few hard core socialists were elected to the council as well. In other words good times are ahead.

    The future is bright!

    Brh

    • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 2:17 pm #

      Yes, it’s a winning combo – a threefer: Minority, Female, and Gay. That she be competent is simply a boring non-factor. Of course she’ll be competent! She’s Minority, Female, and Gay! Only a White, Hetero, Male would doubt her….

      • BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 2:28 pm #

        And she has only 1 leg, so add handicapped in there too!

        Now if she would only convert to Islam she’d be 5 star, the absolute tops.

        Brh

        • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 2:46 pm #

          Damn. We’ve found the famed one eyed eskimo lesbian dwarf or should I say inuit…. Is her hair in snakes a la Medusa?

          • benr April 5, 2019 at 5:45 pm #

            I see you know calling them eskimos is fighting words!

          • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 6:05 pm #

            Eskimo means polar and thus though general, not inaccurate. They want to be called Inuit, it sound a lot like the Cockney question slang, innit. Oriental is another fine word, means Eastern and pertaining to OUR general immpressions of the East. Don’t let yourself be guilted out of your own mind and thoughts. Think they don’t have prejudices about us “Franks”? Or “Round Eyes”? Or “Dog Eyes”?

      • BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 2:46 pm #

        She was a prosecutor, but apparently her specialty was prosecuting the police.

        A Kim Fox like prosecutor, in other words.

        Just what Chicago needs (with its 700 or so murders per year)

        It begs the question, who would start or maintain a business in a place with people like this in charge, and why would whitey stay? Its a question that must have been asked in Detroit 25 years ago and the answer is plain to see.

        Brh

    • Q. Shtik April 5, 2019 at 4:02 pm #

      Good News out of Chicago! Black lesbian elected Mayor! – BRH

      ===========

      It could only be better if she was missing a limb.

      • Q. Shtik April 5, 2019 at 4:06 pm #

        OK, sorry. Didn’t realize BRH had worked this joke before me.

        • Exscotticus April 8, 2019 at 12:14 am #

          But you added the missing limb angle. Which ties into her being a “lightfoot”. So that’s something.

  23. MiddlePeninsula April 5, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

    I am still traumatized by Jim’s podcast with Jack Alpert (Kunstler Cast 303), so it’s hard for me to get worked up about all this political stuff. Then I had the misfortune to listen to John Hogue on Coast to Coast AM this week, which was another cheery journey into the future. If alcohol wasn’t a depressant, I’d take up drinking. Instead, I am going to retire next year and pet my dog.
    I may have 20 years left and I’m not sure this baby is going to last even that long. No one has the political will and ability to handle anything – even a basic national responsibility of controlling your borders. I can only conclude they want it all to go down. Presumably they think they will end up on top after it comes down, and then they will have a nation of serfs except for Elon Musk who will presumably be on Mars. Just count me as one of the many dissatisfied citizens of the banana republic.

    • ozone April 5, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

      “… Just count me as one of the many dissatisfied citizens of the banana republic.”

      MiddlePeninsula,
      Just to make your day complete: We’re no longer considered citizens, we are now simply customers. 😉

      • BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 1:33 pm #

        Oz, if you’re still looking in, what do you think of China landing troops in Venezuela a few days ago, and Russia landing troops last week?

        Also, reports last week of Cuban secret police running prison camps in the jungle where some good old fashion Marxist political dicipline is being administered?

        Brh

        • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 2:18 pm #

          In coordination with Russia?

    • BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 1:14 pm #

      Yes, its hard for some of us to understand why the borders cannot be controlled. It undermines everything, our soveriegnty as a nation, the rule of law, faith in our government, everything.

      Brh

      • volodya April 5, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

        Borders are the basis for nationhood. It’s like good ole Bernie said, there’s no USA without borders.

        • montsegur April 6, 2019 at 2:40 am #

          Indeed, they are the ultimate expression of a people’s sovereignty. Give up the borders, give up the society, the culture, and the country.

          Cheers

      • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

        Remember Paul Krugman said the that the Welfare State depends on Closed Borders – yet he is for open borders. The mind at the end of its tether? Or a secret Agenda for chaos a la Cloward-Piven or some variant thereof?

  24. Luhrenloup April 5, 2019 at 1:11 pm #

    The “Creepy Joe Biden” is emblematic of where we stand as a nation among nations. One watches the videos of the little girls squirming and shrinking from Biden’s gropes; this happening under the very eyes of parents, politicians themselves who say nothing. One sees it replicated on a daily basis; all are squirming and shrinking from America’s overreach.
    Touching and fondling a person that hasn’t invited it, especially a child, was, and is never ok. Biden did it openly, because he could. He flaunted his power — check the image of him nuzzling the girlfriend as 2 Hell’s Angels look on and fume impotently.
    We are in Louis Quatorze’s court at Versailles where the elites all vie for crumbs; the Maxine’s, the Lindsey Graham’s, the Muellers play off each other unaware and uninterested in the repercussions of their actions to the country.
    As for the king, he is similarly occupied in the court’s dynamics and is manipulated at will. We await our Louis 16th and his Antoinette who will bring an end to this sorry charade of power.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 2:30 pm #

      Little Lindsey is better since McCain died. Comey tweeted, So many questions – with an image of himself looking up in a grove of towering trees. Lindsey tweeted back, Us too. See you soon.

    • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 2:46 am #

      Yes I agree. The Elite we have now are users and abusers. Openly and agressively they work against the interest of us commoners. Imagine if we instead had an Elite that valued ethics, morality, and the survival of our culture and country.

  25. volodya April 5, 2019 at 1:11 pm #

    If it was necessary to set up an investigative apparatus that burned through tens of millions of dollars and occupied the country’s attention for two years all supposedly because of Manafort, then maybe it would behoove all to have another look at the Podesta bros business dealings with Russians. I mean, it’s not like good ole John was a nobody. And it was so unfortunate that the bros were ensnared in this mess, given that they weren’t even the target but rather just happened to get into the prosecutorial gun-sights. So, given that Trump was the intended quarry, how thorough-going was the Mueller investigation of the Podestas? Just wonderin’.

    It may also be beneficial to have another look at the Clinton’s dealings with Kremlin connected Russian businesses especially while Hillary was Secretary of State, business that supposedly paid Billy-Bob Horndog hundreds of thousands for – cough – speeches and paid the Clinton Foundation how much and for – um – what exactly? See, that’s the question, was there a quid pro quo? Maybe I’m out of the loop. Was that ever settled? .

    Maybe it’s just me but, to anyone who wasn’t born yesterday, given all the dough that changed hands, it’s stretches credulity, or at least raises suspicion, that maybe the richest, most ruthless oligarchs on the fucking PLANET weren’t forking over good money out of a spirit of doing good. So what WERE they paying for? Just wonderin’ about that too.

    While we’re at it, given that this whole fucking debacle was over the suspicion that Trump enlisted Russians to help him win, or accepted their help, maybe we ought to have a gander at a documented case of exactly that, millions being paid by Democrats for dirt on Trump from Russian sources, ie intelligence operatives. It’s all there in a report, in black and white, plus a money trail a small child couldn’t miss. You want collusion? There it is. Where’s the Special Prosecutor?

    • montsegur April 6, 2019 at 2:42 am #

      Where’s the Special Prosecutor?

      Because too many believe the moral arc of the universe doesn’t bend that way. A rather selective flexibility on the part of said arc, I say.

      Cheers

  26. JohnAZ April 5, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

    Seawolf

    You are on really on thin ice here. At the time of all the Clinton email business, and the consequent dossier and Russiagate start up, the Obama administration and thus the Dems were in total control of what was going on. Trump would not have had any access to governmental classified info at that time. Obama,Clinton, Kerry, led a foreign policy that was so bad, it blew up in their faces many times, Benghazi, Libya, Egypt, ISIS, Korea. Remember the Red line in Syria? We will never know if Clinton arrogance with information control led to Mark Stevens demise. Or what led up to his being in Bengazi in the first place. The Obama administration was adept at hiding what it was doing by control of information in the intelligence community, and the only reason we are finding out about it is the election of Trump and the ensuing Mueller investigation.

    There is a distinct possibility that in their zeal to crucify Trump, the Dems May have shot themselves in the face.

    Let us hope so.

    • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 1:56 pm #

      There was no zeal to crucify Trump. You see forest. It’s only a tree. There was evidence to suggest that Russians were seriously trying to influence our elections as they always do except this time there appeared to be cooperation from one of the candidates. This candidate had known business interests in Russia. The Ukraine platform change indicated a quid pro quo. They investigated it. They wrote a report. Let’s see it. It’s not difficult.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 2:32 pm #

        No zeal? Ridiculous. Read your own posts for God’s sake. Buy a mirror and spit at what you see.

        • Ol' Scratch April 6, 2019 at 7:58 am #

          Wolfy’s downright hysterical these days. Menopause?

  27. wm5135 April 5, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

    Charge Mueller with malicious prosecution and obstruction of justice, supoena the grand jury report indict the bastard and release the evidence into the public record.

    Then go after comrade Comey and see if “no intent’ will fly in his case.

    My view is if the executive branch does not buy new rope, repair all of the lamp posts in disrepair and fulfill the mandated duty to protect and exucute the constitution the election of Mr. Trumps was to no avail.

    The Supreme Court is packed for crying out loud, who says you can’t do that? The house of representatives? The executive and the judicial branches in concert and the legislative branch on it’s own. We have not had the opportunity for such great TV since Watergate.

    However – if wishes were fishes

    • Kafkaesque April 5, 2019 at 2:19 pm #

      Ah, a secular baptist, whose cry in the wilderness, aka, Umaircuh, I heartily join.

      Bumper sticker for Trump’s arses: DisBarr

    • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 2:33 pm #

      So saith Uriah Heep. Seconded by Charlie Sneed.

  28. BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

    How’d Mick Jagger’ surgery go?

    New concert dates coming up, he’s gotta be looking out over the audience thinking “whats the point?”

    It”d be like if Rudy Valley scheduled a concert in 1980 at Filmore West.

    Brh

    • BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 1:58 pm #

      Ron Wood does a lot of metal detecting and treasure hunting. He even designed his own detector and wrote a book about it.

      Brh

    • malthuss April 5, 2019 at 3:50 pm #

      VallEE

  29. wm5135 April 5, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

    a further note:

    JiminFlorida’s trademark solution is becoming more acceptable and utilitarian by the moment.

    I suspect the train could be stopped and new rail laid with a number as low as 535/10, rounding is up to you.

    and as Madame Secretary observed, the death of 500,000 children was well worth achieving the limited policy outcome.

  30. BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 1:56 pm #

    One of jim in floridas solutions was to kill all the billionaires. Is that the one you mean?

    Brh

    • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 2:51 am #

      Where is Jim in Florida I wonder?

      • JimInFlorida April 7, 2019 at 7:39 pm #

        I was banned TWICE. If this gets through, it’s because the ban apparently has a time limit.

        Also, let Janos know I am NOT slacking. I know my very presence will cause much angst and uproar among certain regulars here. Thus, I’ll stay in the background.

        And thank you to wm5135 for bringing up my trademarked solution. It IS guaranteed to work and for the reasons posted in the past.

  31. Kafkaesque April 5, 2019 at 2:16 pm #

    Two words: Dis Barr.

    In this land of the blind, the dumb and deaf are kings and queens of a hill of sheiss, and by that I mean today’s blog.

  32. FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 2:17 pm #

    China landing troops in Venezuela a few days ago, and Russia landing troops last week == brh

    Didn’t you read the news? It’a Red Dawn all over again:

    How Putin Built a Ragtag Empire of Tyrants and Failing States

    time.com/5564173/how-putin-built-russian-empire/

    The journalist – Simon Shuster – does not mention whether the destruction and catastrophe, to which led the military operations of the Americans and their allies around the world.

    The article, in particular, says nothing about whether the bombing of Syrian territory by the coalition led by the United States without UN sanction and calls for the violent overthrow of the legitimate leader Bashar al-Assad was interference.

    The situation in Venezuela, where opposition member Juan Guaido declared himself president with the support of the United States, according to the author of the article, is also an example of “Russian intervention” because Moscow refused to recognize the self-proclaimed “head of state”.

  33. fugeguy April 5, 2019 at 2:28 pm #

    Ahh the absurdity of the American condition is causing the need for new scales to be measured.

  34. Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

    Daily Mail

    President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner has been revealed as the White House Official whose security clearance was initially denied over foreign influence concerns.

    Kushner was the individual identified as ‘Senior White House Official 1’ in a House Oversight Committee memo on Monday summarizing the testimony of an executive branch whistle-blower, sources told the Washington Post.

    The whistle-blower, Tricia Newbold, said that her denial of Kushner’s clearance was overruled despite her concerns about ‘foreign influence, outside activities… and personal conduct,’ the memo stated.

    Though the memo didn’t specify the nature of her concerns, foreign officials from Israel, China, the United Arab Emirates, and Mexico all discussed ways to gain leverage on Kushner, the Post reported last year.

    According to the new report, Kushner was among 25 White House officials who were granted security clearances over Newbold’s objections.

    The allegations were detailed in a letter and memo released by Rep. Elijah Cummings, a Maryland Democrat and chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee.

    The documents, which are based on Newbold’s March 23 private committee interview, don’t identify the officials on the list but say they include “two current senior White House officials, as well as contractors and individuals” in different parts of the Executive Office of the President.

    “According to Ms. Newbold, these individuals had a wide range of serious disqualifying issues involving foreign influence, conflicts of interest, concerning personal conduct, financial problems, drug use and criminal conduct,” the memo says.

    JS: Ms Newbold has worked at this position for 18 years – a Dwarf, but a giant at the level of the Soul. This mitigates against the idea of Trump being an innocent abroad who intended to do good for America, does it not? I wonder what foreign influences Jared Kushner is involved in? Russian no doubt, right?

    • FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 3:25 pm #

      So, Herr Janos, are you implying that Jared Kushner is a Jewish Messiah and an Antichrist?

      President Trump’s son-in-law and the owner of building number 666 on Fifth Avenue in New York, Jared Kushner, is a Jewish Messiah and Antichrist.

      youtube.com/watch?v=w-YoZur5pro

      youtube.com/watch?v=4htMVr2uctQ

      Well, the cattle will obviously get stuck on the previous phrase and will not continue to read, and I would like to let everyone else know that they are spreading these vile rumors under the guidance of patented Clintonoids.

      The rest could read my post from November 1, 2018:

      Reflections at the main entrance at 666 Fifth Avenue

      kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-monster-mash/#comment-377489

      • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

        My post says nothing about all that – merely that he is not to be trusted. Yet there he sits at the right hand of the President – a Grima Wormtongue.

        Watch the old movie “The Omen” since you are interested in these deep matters. Cheers you old Devil, bested again by the Catholic/Hindu Saint in training.

        • malthuss April 5, 2019 at 7:45 pm #

          . Our Economy – which is the only thing the Elite value –
          Please consider another term, not ‘elites.’

          You and I know that they want many things, death to USA,
          de population, etc.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 5, 2019 at 9:01 pm #

            The Economic is the base of their power. Everything else is sacrificed to that or in order to keep that by destroying potential opposition – like White America. Beyond that, they may value things like preserving Nature, living forever, etc.

        • elysianfield April 6, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

          “Watch the old movie “The Omen” since you are interested in these deep matters”

          Janos,
          So…Is Comrade Finc our Bugenhagen?

          If so, then Poseidon and the Flying Chernobyl’s are merely metaphors for the 7 ancient daggers?

          Bugenhagen…whatever happened to that guy?

          • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

            Who is that? I really like Ernest Borgnine in the Poseidon Adventure, Marty, and of course, The Devil’s Rain.

            Seven ancient daggers? Again I am at a loss. Please explicate. Is this a metaphor for Seven Spanish Angels in the Valley of the Sun – or the Seven Spirits before the Throne of God?

          • elysianfield April 6, 2019 at 7:54 pm #

            “Who is that? ”

            Janos,
            Bugenhagen is a central figure in the movie “The Omen”… He is the one that fingered Damien as the Anti-Christ. The seven daggers were given to Gregory Peck’s character to be used to kill the Anti-Christ. Sort of like silver bullets for werewolves, or something like that. Why seven daggers? In case six of them broke, I would reckon….

      • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 3:00 am #

        How do we know for sure that Jared Kushner is not an anti-Christ? After all, it is a state of mind and spirit. I am not sure anyone actually believes he is the Anti-Christ.

        • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 12:47 pm #

          We don’t! I merely put the Fink off because he was trying to throw my post into the garbage with a tangent. But the tangent is well worth considering. As you know, the Elite have feel they have to reveal their plans ahead of time in pop culture. Then if we are stupid enough to miss it, they are not morally culpable. A weird attitude, but a number of movies predicted 9/11 apparently. I plan to go back and watch the Omen movies again….

          My point to Finc was simply that Kushner is not to be trusted. He is the servant of Non-American states, entities and/ or forces. And Trump is as well apparently.

          • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 4:42 pm #

            I think you are right about both of them. They aren’t thinking of us when they are making these important decisions. At least that is how I feel too. And I have heard too that the Elite “tell us” what they are doing and planning in various movie plots and its up to us to notice. See! Why not be more straightfoward since you are letting the cat out of the bag anyway? They are weird. And it seems like they love the secrecy and symbolism and deception.

          • benr April 10, 2019 at 8:10 pm #

            Many movies signal events to come.
            One comes to mind instantly.
            Just before the large oil blow out called deep horizon I saw an advertisement for a movie that had that very event in it.
            I just can’t remember the name of the movie or even what it was about I just remember how odd it was this movie had an event in it months before it actually happened.

  35. FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 3:33 pm #

    Germanophilia of Caucasoids or Germany über Alles

    I don’t know how many times I watched this Rammstein’s clip, but each time new meanings are revealed – it seems that in Germany a whole institute works for Rammstein, which comes to the same conclusions as me, but from opposite positions. What is that, Berlin Hegelians again? And it works the same! For 190 years works!

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Hegelians

    Well, about how it worked in 1835-1914, wrote Dostoevsky, what happened in Russia in 1914-1935, we know almost nothing, and after 1935 a lot was determined by the Woland’s Spring Full Moon Ball in Spaso House.

    rbth.com/arts/history/2017/07/04/6-secrets-of-us-ambassador-residence-in-moscow-that-sound-like-myth…

    The next reference point in the world of ideas is the abdication of Boris Yeltsin.

    And here is Rammstein’s clip, which can be interpreted as you please, but one thing is certain – those who wrote its script as well as I believe that Nazi Germany is not an aberration of history, but a natural embodiment of the Dark German Genius, about which wrote and sung Alexander Blok and Hegel and Rammstein.

    Nevertheless, in Russia, the followers of Granovsky, uniting in a touching unity with Dostoevsky’s “followers,” continue to assert that Germany, or Europe as an option, supports the freedom fighters of Ichkeria and Ukraine, dismantles Yugoslavia, gives guarantees to Yanukovych and imposes Sectoral Sanctions against Russia only because Angela Merkel and her predecessors signed the Chancellor Act.

    europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document//E-8-2017-003956_EN.html

    And now:

    Ukraine cannot afford to rely on inexperienced leadership in the conflict with Russia and in its difficult economic and social situation Chairman of the CDU/CSU faction Johann David Wadephul said in a statement.
    unian.info/politics/10501665-germany-s-cdu-comments-on-zelensky-s-win-in-first-round-of-ukraine-elec…

    But this is not a commanding shouts of the hegemon, it’s just bad manners or if you want rudeness!

    So, when the candidate who made the improvement of relations with Russia one of the main points of his election program won the elections in the USA, the same commanding shout came from Berlin, and no Chancellor Act prevented this!

  36. doggersize April 5, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

    I am not pessimistic enough to be a Presbyterian. But Christopher Hedges claims Russia is not even in the top ten of nations that interfere with U.S. policies and elections. Granted, it is more legitimate to simply pay lobbyists, fund PACs, and sponsor talk radio pundits.

    An indictment from Mueller would have had this negative effect. It would require a declaration of what this “interference” was and explaining why it was significant. This is dangerous if enough Americans are contemplative enough to compare this to every other influence of foreign nations and wealthy foreigners. It threatens to take away all of the professionals’ cookie jars.

    • BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 4:24 pm #

      Yeah, I could never figure out why Russia was targetted in this hoax and not NKorea or China, both of which have sophisticated cyber warfare capabilities. Why Russia, unless it was because of John Podestas work in Russia with Manafort.

      Brh

      • FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 4:36 pm #

        You think small, brh.

        Majority of DC is busy managing (interfering in) other countries affairs.

      • FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 4:40 pm #

        Actually, that is probably one of the reasons why Hillary Clinton is untouchable – she controls the biggest army of traitors inside Russia, after all she’s been doing it full time since 1993.

      • FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 4:47 pm #

        You are being sold total fucking bullshit by your media.

        • BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 5:09 pm #

          That’s one thing we agree on, Finca.

          Hey Finca, on a different subject, I recently read an article about teenagers in St Petersburg going out into the fields and woodlands outside the city and finding all this WW2 ordnance, Mausers, grenades, mortars, mortar rounds, crates of 8mm bullets, all kinds of stuff, some of it still operable.

          Brh

          • FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 5:35 pm #

            Are you in a market for some?

          • FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 6:23 pm #

            You made me recall an old sailor song of my youth:

            In the Port of Cape Town

            ….
            And Mr. Klauser
            Pull out his Mauser
            And giant Frenchman
            Went crushing down!

            youtube.com/watch?v=83VqrISkCYc

          • BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 7:50 pm #

            Nah, I just found it interesting that that stuff is still laying around out there after 75 years.

            brh

          • benr April 10, 2019 at 8:16 pm #

            Would love the 8mm bullets for plinking.

  37. FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 4:03 pm #

    NATO set to guarantee free passage of ships via Kerch Strait

    A package of measures will be approved during a two-day conference to begin in Washington on Wednesday.

    tass.com/defense/1051809

    That scandal that the US ambassador Kay Bailey Hutchison arranged in NATO, proposing that the NATO ships in the Kerch Strait accompany Ukrainian ships, is undoubtedly an attempt to use for other purposes the Hillary Clinton plan, which was thwarted by the death of George H. W. Bush and by recent closing of the holes in the Russian nuclear attack early warning system.

    When considering this plan, it is necessary to evaluate it, mentally imagining that Russia is sinking NATO ships in the Kerch Strait, while Vladimir Putin meets in Buenos Aires with Donald Trump, and there is a huge hole in the warning system of a nuclear attack, through which thousands of cruise missiles can penetrate the territory of Russia and the Russian leadership will learn about a nuclear attack only when they explode at the launch pads of the Russian missiles after a disarming strike by a defensive alliance NATO, including the command centers in major cities.

  38. seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 7:10 pm #

    The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact. Their newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity, every crack in the common front against fascism. Henry A. Wallace
    Read more at: brainyquote.com/quotes/henry_a_wallace_235379

    • Ol' Scratch April 6, 2019 at 7:53 am #

      And guess who’s the modern embodiment of that warning? And no, it’s not the GGG.

    • benr April 10, 2019 at 8:17 pm #

      Really odd how the left says the right lies and the right says the left lies and those of us sorta in the center can see the lies for what they are… lies.

  39. BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 7:37 pm #

    Henry Wallace, as a special guest of Comrade Stalin, spent 4 weeks at the Kolyma death camp in Siberia in the middle of WW2 where 3 million human beings were liquidated by the special services of the NKVD. Wallace saw what he wanted to see and proclaimed Kolyma a pretty good place. Of special note was the American lend lease heavy equipment and canned food used to run the camps and feed the Soviet guards.

    brh

  40. BackRowHeckler April 5, 2019 at 7:48 pm #

    Wallace later apologized for the fiasco at Kolyma, left politics, stusied agronomy, and became a billlionaire.

    It s funny how American Communists like Henry Wallace and the Browder family became billionaires.

    brh

    • malthuss April 6, 2019 at 10:19 am #

      Those who go to the Hammer Museum dont know the truth about
      (((Armand))).

      • GreenAlba April 8, 2019 at 8:52 am #

        “…the truth about (((Armand))).”

        Just guessing from your illustration… Has he metamorphosed into an insect and now calls himself Gregor?

  41. Pucker April 5, 2019 at 7:53 pm #

    The US Mainstream Media reminds me of those Erich Von Daniken “Ancient Astronaut” books that I used to buy at Kmart when I was 8 years old.

    “Look at this 10,000 year old cliff drawing in Arizona. Look at the size of the dick on that guy! It’s bigger than he is! No human being could have a cock that big. It must be ancient astronauts from outer space!”

    The MSM is raises questions to imply a predrawn conclusion rather than even bothering to try to investigate anything.

    Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks is at it too. His spin is that he never said that Trump colluded with the Russians during the election, but only after the election because of some dubious real estate deals involving Russian money before the election. That makes sense…. Cenk: “Trump colluded with the Russians before the election and after the election (while Trump was being butt-probed for collusion), but not during the election.” Unfortunately, Cenk doesn’t differentiate between pro-Putin Russians and anti-Putin Russians. A lot of the money that has poured into Manhattan real estate has been anti-Putin Russian mafia money. They’re not going to investigate “Our Russians”.

  42. capt spaulding April 5, 2019 at 8:32 pm #

    Someone speculated about what the reaction would have been if Ken Starr released his investigation of Clinton to Janet Reno, who read it privately, and then released a four page memo saying that her conclusion was that there had had been no crimes committed. Would there have been an uproar? It’s just an idle thought, pay no mind to it. All I can say about the situation is: I’d pay good money to have AOC read the transcript of the Mueller report to me.

    • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 3:15 am #

      She charges by the character for that type of a gig. Being that she is an actress she is a natural at cold reading and she’s done voiceovers too so you should definitely call her.

  43. Pucker April 5, 2019 at 8:35 pm #

    What if you ask the girl for permission, but she’s high on Quaaludes or other Party Drugs? Jenny was always stoned out of her mind around Forrest, including the only time that Gump poked her when she gave him the “Mercy Fuck” in Momma’s House….

    Free Bill Cosby!

    “At a speech to the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers’ conference in Washington, D.C., Biden opened his remarks by joking that he’d received permission to hug the group’s president, Lonnie Stephenson, whom Biden had embraced after being introduced by him.

    “I just want you to know, I had permission to hug Lonnie,” said Biden, who is said to be gearing up for a presidential run.

    The line drew applause and laughter from the crowd.”

    • Ol' Scratch April 6, 2019 at 7:51 am #

      At Bill’s age prison’s probably a blessing. Three squares and a cot and all that. I seriously doubt anyone’s interested in poking his old black ass at this point – they might just get a shitty surprise if they do! Old age is the great leveler. We all revert to infancy if we live long enough.

  44. Pucker April 5, 2019 at 8:36 pm #

    White women in the US used to be expected to be demure and chaste, while black women were generally considered to be “Fair Game”.

    Jenny right after she got fucked by her boyfriend in a car her dorm’s parking lot: “Have you ever been with a girl, Forrest?”

    “For Atilia, on the other hand, virginity was not an option—it was an expectation. Because females often married at the first signs of puberty, sometimes as young as twelve, it was taken for granted that they were untouched. Female virginity was a state-sanctioned virtue. The six Vestal Virgins who served as guardians of the Temple of Vesta and tended to its eternal hearth-flame represented the highest ideals of purity and chastity. If a Vestal Virgin broke her vow of chastity even once during her thirty-year term, she was buried alive and her lover was publicly whipped to death. It was the epitome of a sexual ethos that touched the life of every Roman woman. For all of the Republic’s sexual frankness and its fascination with boudoir antics, women were expected to practice sexual diffidence. To be too forward was to set the rumor mills grinding. And these expectations extended beyond the bedroom: Come across as too witty, too polished, too political, and you practically branded yourself a whore. To be dignified and demure was the feminine ideal. Women’s wits were for spinning, weaving, and, at the most, household management.“

    Rob Goodman
    Rome’s Last Citizen: The Life and Legacy of Cato, Mortal Enemy of Caesar

    • EvelynV April 6, 2019 at 11:34 pm #

      “Come across as too witty, too polished, too political, and you practically branded yourself a whore.”

      Take it from me, being branded as a whore for those reasons has been my greatest burden. Apart from the incessant throbbing lust that seems to follow me everywhere.

  45. JohnAZ April 5, 2019 at 8:43 pm #

    Trumptards are looking for an answer to the problems of today. At least they are not insane like the Left. Name calling is all they have.

    Sticks and stones——-

    Voting for a democrat is like voting for Vladamir Lenin.

    I am listening to Howard Schultz who has labeled the Progressives for the anti-American idiots that they are. Not even the Democrats agree with the Communist wing.

    Go Trumptards! Seawolf, call me that all you want, it is a badge of honor.

    • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 9:04 pm #

      Well, let’s hope they are not looking for the answers to yesterdays problems. Or tomorrows. Because if they were they might look at a bodacious bawler who made it cause of Daddy’s money. They might look to someone who thought owning 3 casinos in the same location was a good idea. Like owning 3 grocery stores on the same street. Sales are down. Must be the competition. Wait we’re the competition. It’s like those urinals that extend to the floor and when you piss urine gets all over your shoes. Someone just didn’t think that one through. They might look to someone who was a con man his whole life and now is running that con on conservatives because let’s face it, they’ll believe anything. But if they were really trying to solve today’s problems, well scan the political and business landscape and find … oh I don’t know… who could be our savior…Donald Trump!

    • EvelynV April 6, 2019 at 11:38 pm #

      JohnAZ I posted a video to explain why that is…the badge thing if you’re confused.

      You’ve confessed something that is the equivalent to admitting you play with your own poop. Watch the video twice and then you still won’t understand.

      • benr April 10, 2019 at 8:23 pm #

        Odd since I garden the old fashioned way.
        I don’t use chemical fertilizers so in essence yes I play with Cow POOP!
        Want to make an issue of it…if so I don’t care.
        Your loss because the fruits and vegetables taste far better.

  46. wm5135 April 5, 2019 at 8:45 pm #

    BackRowHeckler – That is the one. Or we could just book them a flight on a 737 Max, in first class of course.

  47. Pucker April 5, 2019 at 8:47 pm #

    Have you ever noticed how many Americans have seemingly lost the ability to think? This is a huge problem.

    The ancient Roman Educational System was based upon teaching rhetorical argumenting skills. Students were required to always argue both sides pro and con of any issue. Now, there’s no argument. One side just hurls nasty labels at the other side, which is a huge set up for totalitarianism. We probably need a massive educational reform in the US?

    • Ol' Scratch April 6, 2019 at 7:46 am #

      That’s a basic feature of modern plutocratic rule. The herd must be pacified and subdued, and the easiest way to do that is to keep them dumbed down from birth and just barely enough satisfied with their lot in life that they won’t risk rebelling.

      • JohnAZ April 6, 2019 at 9:20 am #

        The founding father’s followed John Locke in setting up our Constitution, putting the average Joe in charge of the political process. All the content of the Constitution waters down the power of the elite. The problem is that money and power have concentrated the power at the top and the bureaucracy has cemented the power upwards for a hundred years. We are worse off today than the monarchical nations of Europe.

        How did it happen. Easy!

        Money buys elections when stupid people do the voting. The stupidification of America has been discussed widely and so I will point my finger at only two things, illegal immigration and the education system. Our elite education system tells kids that the government is a fairer and more productive system than the private sector. The level of education of the immigrants and their backgrounds make them good little socialists.

        I rest my case.

        • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 12:31 pm #

          Yes, they weren’t strict enough about their criterion for who gets to vote. White, Male, Property owner – all good for starters. But one must be of prove character with a record of service. Plus one must show knowledge of the System and Issues. Perhaps there could be a graduated system, with fewer and fewer White Men being qualified to vote past the local level, with voting at the federal level for the very, very few – an Elite if you will.

          The only answer to Evil Elites is Good ones. To try and counter the Dark ones by letting the Mob vote as Jackson did is simply folly.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 12:39 pm #

            And obviously any such Good Elite is by definition not worrying about their portfolios and special or private interests when they vote. Capitalism cannot rise above its source of greed. Obviously there have to be a Few above the Game – the Umpires or Referees. Why can’t Az see this? What is wrong with him? Alas, a lifetime of Americana conditioning against Socialism – which he always equates with Marxism. He is a victim of the Media Masters who have enslaved his mind.

            Financial solvency must be one of the criterion obviously. Owning property need not be. Even back then many just bought property to be able to vote – thus its non efficacy as standard is revealed. Or one could be “property rich” and still not solvent – it just isn’t fundamental enough.

            Leisure as well – time to study the issues and personalities. Thus voting at the highest level will be mostly for men who are retired or near retirement. They need not be rich and indeed, shouldn’t all be. But solvent and secure, and eager to give back to the Nation they love.

          • Q. Shtik April 6, 2019 at 10:34 pm #

            Janos likes to use the word “obviously.” Beware that the opposite is more often the truth. Further he often signals an inaccurate or misleading conclusion by using the word “thus.” Note the bolded words in the following:

            And obviously any such Good Elite is by definition not worrying about their portfolios and special or private interests when they vote. Capitalism cannot rise above its source of greed. obviously there have to be a Few above the Game – the Umpires or Referees. Why can’t Az see this? What is wrong with him? Alas, a lifetime of Americana conditioning against Socialism – which he always equates with Marxism. He is a victim of the Media Masters who have enslaved his mind.

            Financial solvency must be one of the criterion obviously. Owning property need not be. Even back then many just bought property to be able to vote – thus its non efficacy as standard is revealed. Or one could be “property rich” and still not solvent – it just isn’t fundamental enough.

            Leisure as well – time to study the issues and personalities. Thus voting at the highest level will be mostly for men who are retired or near retirement. They need not be rich and indeed, shouldn’t all be. But solvent and secure, and eager to give back to the Nation they love.

          • GreenAlba April 8, 2019 at 8:57 am #

            Interesting, Q (rather like his use of ‘in other words’).

            But I’m surprised you let him away with ‘ one of the criterion’ 🙂 .

          • GreenAlba April 8, 2019 at 8:58 am #

            He won’t fool the voting elite into letting him join them by making plebeian mistakes like that!

          • Q. Shtik April 8, 2019 at 11:08 am #

            I’m surprised you let him away with ‘ one of the criterion’ – GA

            =============

            It didn’t go unnoticed, believe me but I’m always walking on egg shells with our host and try not to overdo it. I considered suggesting ‘one of the criterions” haha.

    • EvelynV April 6, 2019 at 11:46 pm #

      Pucker, “we need reform…”. What a bucket of warm spit your mind has produced. How about, “we need to cure cancer…”, or “We need to elect strong leaders…”, or “We need to make people happier…”, or “we need to educate Americans…”, or “we need to be best”.

      Banal proclamations of what we need to do but as always nothing to suggest you have any ideas of how to do it.

      If you haven’t realized by now the diminishing ability to think has a direct relationship to the ubiquitous smart phone and all the digital cancer surrounding it, they you should watch that video I posted all night or at least a couple of dozen times.

  48. wm5135 April 5, 2019 at 8:47 pm #

    BackRowHeckler – When you are being chased by a bear you only have to outrun the fellow next to you.

  49. Pucker April 5, 2019 at 9:02 pm #

    Would you vote for a candidate just because he is named “Spartacus”, and he is dressed like a Roman gladiator? The

  50. Pucker April 5, 2019 at 9:17 pm #

    What do you make of the seemingly schizophrenic preoccupation with sexual prudery in the context of the post-1960’s sexual liberation “Love Shack”?

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=9SOryJvTAGs

    “At a speech to the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers’ conference in Washington, D.C., Biden opened his remarks by joking that he’d received permission to hug the group’s president, Lonnie Stephenson, whom Biden had embraced after being introduced by him.
    “I just want you to know, I had permission to hug Lonnie,” said Biden, who is said to be gearing up for a presidential run.
    The line drew applause and laughter from the crowd.”

  51. DrGonzo April 5, 2019 at 10:16 pm #

    If Trump’s tax returns ever see the light of day, his brand is completely f*cked. We’ll get to peak behind his sparkly curtain and see him for the hot-aired, bone-spurred pipsqueak he is, rather than the mighty Oz.

    The sound of his crashing ego will be audible all the way to Japan.

    • Ol' Scratch April 6, 2019 at 7:43 am #

      Has any damning revelation about him yet stuck? Trump has thus far proven to be impervious to pretty much any slander thrown his way. There’s no doubt elements of psychopathy and/or sociopathy in that trait, but it’s probably a basic job requirement for any he or she who would be king these days.

      • JohnAZ April 6, 2019 at 9:06 am #

        It is because the claims being leveled at him are so crazy that they border on credibility.

        By the way, what is the big deal about tax returns? If he is under audit by the IRS constantly and anything was untoward, wouldn’t that be identified and resolved?

        If one believes everything about him that has be propagandized over the last two years, he would have to be the Devil incarnate. Political differences are the things for discussion and debate, not the level of hatred that now exists. These folks in Washington are just people, not members of the Justice League. As a matter of fact, they are weaker that most:

        Those who can, do

        Those who can’t, teach

        Those who cannot teach, administrate.

        • EvelynV April 7, 2019 at 12:01 am #

          Trump desperate to keep his schooling records hidden – probably troubled they would make normal people feel inadequate by comparison. Threatening his alma maters with lawsuits no more than his flavor of showing compassion for people lower than him.

          Ditto his tax returns, a compulsive need on his part to suppress information about himself that would induce envy, thus causing his worshippers pain he couldn’t bear to be the cause of.

          His lawyer had it all wrong. Trump is clearly not the kind of person who would ever cheat, not even his golf scores.

          • benr April 10, 2019 at 8:29 pm #

            Yet Obama did it and not a peep from your type.
            Who cares if he Trump got c’s or d’s.
            Obama had his sealed for a very different reason and we all know what it was___fraud.

    • Walter B April 6, 2019 at 9:01 am #

      I was chatting with my Township attorney this past Thursday evening about the Trump tax return issue. Neither one of us could figure out why so many people think that it is such a big deal since tax returns really do not show you shit about an individual’s financial reality. The only answer that we could come up with was that since 90% of Americans pay somebody else to do their own tax returns, they haven’t a clue as to what is on tax returns in the first place.

      Warren Buffet takes a $100K annual salary. Do you really think his tax returns tells us a dammed thing about how much he really makes? Seriously Doc, check out a 1040 for yourself.

      cnbc.com/2018/03/19/warren-buffetts-berkshire-hathaway-salary.html

    • JohnAZ April 6, 2019 at 9:08 am #

      Are you in the IRS, that you know this? I just hear wishful thinking!

  52. Pucker April 5, 2019 at 10:44 pm #

    Let’s try to argue the other side…

    Trump is a Russian agent because:

    A. He and some of his staff met with some Russian diplomats (pro-Putin) which is normal.

    B. Trump prior to the election had dodgey business dealings with anti-Putin Russians investing in Manhattan real estate.

    C. The Steele Dossier golden shower file which was paid for by Hillary and the DNC

    Doesn’t really “Fly”, does it?

  53. Pucker April 5, 2019 at 10:57 pm #

    What if, like Joe Biden, you ask a woman on the street for permission to hug in a Muslim country? Assuming that she consents, would it make any difference that you’ve got a big stiffy when you hug her?

    • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 3:36 am #

      In a strict Muslim country men and women are forbidden from even shaking hands let alone hug. You would probably both be arrested but you could simply blame the woman for your actions and in a court of law she would have no legal recourse because her word is worth half of yours. Then she would be flogged, stoned or burned to death depending on which Jihadis are in charge. Wahabis like whips. Muslim Brotherhood likes stoning and ISIS is old school and likes to throw women into fire.

  54. Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 12:38 am #

    You know women are corrupt when they like Homosexuals more than normal Men. Together they form an alliance against those to whom they owe everything.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 12:39 am #

      And obviously, the above applies to most women in the FUSA or former United States of America as well as the greater Western World. They love the corruption of men by the feminine principle – such is their envy and hatred.

      • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 4:09 am #

        I don’t think it’s an issue of liking gay men more than straight men. You’re dealing with two separate animals thats all :-). You can talk and joke more openly with a gay man about alot of things than you can with a straight man. With straight men there is always a tension. It’s only natural so the relationship dynamic is totally different. It doesn’t mean that you want to change anyone.

        • Cavepainter April 6, 2019 at 9:29 am #

          Soft, please; gay men aren’t, the sobriquet of the past, “queer”, is more apt because such non “cis-gendered” people are actually pathological in the sense that the innate conflict between the two sexual agenda (male and female) is perpetually roiling inside the psyche of to individual. Yes, women might feel more comfortable in the presence of a queer rather than a male, duh; but that explains why among native peoples each gender has fraternal orders and passage rites completely separate, and often secret one from the other.

          • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 10:06 am #

            ” the innate conflict between the two sexual agenda (male and female) is perpetually roiling inside the psyche of to individual.”

            That’s brilliant, that is…

            My gay nephew, who’s male and just talks and behaves like other males in most circumstances other than very personal ones to which I’ve never been a party, is Roiling on the Floor Laughing.

            He’s probably used to people who wouldn’t know an ordinary gay person from a cheese sandwich. Or maybe he isn’t, since most people are a bit more enlightened these days. But he has lots of female friends and suffers from no psychological roiling whatsoever, probably because he just always knew, once he was sexually aware at all. His family didn’t though – must have been the total lack of roiling and all those A+ grades he just soared through at school. A really nice lad, who doesn’t go through life judging people with far less insight than they really should have at their age.

          • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 11:23 am #

            It’s one of the last bastions where you have to be brave to come out, given a number of neanderthal supporters still haven’t got over making racist signs at black players, although they’ve stopped throwing bananas on to the field like total morons, thankfully.

            I bet those roiling-psyche-d gay soccer players get stalled in front of the goal, wondering shall I kick it into the back of the net or should I give the goalposts a quick polish first?

            Roil, roil, roil…

          • Cavepainter April 6, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

            Green, a clinical fact that queers are more conflicted identity wise than those who’ve navigated puberty without sexual identity doubts. No doubt too why queers have higher suicide rates. OK, alleging me to be bigoted for pointing that out is a nice grab on your part in getting virtue signal brownie points.

          • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 1:31 pm #

            Cavepainter

            Not that I know dozens, but I imagine I know more gay people than you – as in have known them as individuals for years or decades and actually know them.

            I can assure you the ordinary everyday ones are not all – or even mostly – conflicted. Obviously people are going to be conflicted if they live in a society that’s not mature enough to accept them as a normal part of human life. And especially if they’ve got parents who want to send them to be ‘de-programmed’ because they’re incapable of loving them as they are.

            ” a nice grab on your part in getting virtue signal brownie points.”

            The term ‘virtue signalling’ has become the most stupid, clichéd brownie-point chaser of all time. It’s a recognition that you don’t have an argument.

            WTF has it got to do with ‘virtue signalling’? I’ve got a nephew who’s not conflicted, perfectly stable, balanced, happy, clever, kind and a positive benefit to society. You’ve got a hangup. Tough. Can’t help you with it.

          • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 1:37 pm #

            I recall Alan Turing committed suicide after saving millions of Allied lives.

            He didn’t do it because he was ‘conflicted’. He did it because a benighted government caused him to accept chemical castration to stay out of jail just for being who he was.

            Utterly disgraceful. And a long-overdue posthumous pardon didn’t do him much good.

          • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

            And from what I hear, Cavepainter, half your country’s on anti-depressants and all you can think about is flippin’ gays.

            Forget about them – you’ll be the happier for it. I don’t give them a moment’s thought until someone starts getting in a tizzy about them. There are real problems out there.

          • EvelynV April 6, 2019 at 3:31 pm #

            GreenAlba

            You and a couple of others are too good to continue sloshing around with the pigs who hang out in this sh&t hole.

            You have to realize by now, reasoning does not make a dent.

            Force yourself to break the habit.

            In the words of the Sixth Patriarch,

            “To argue is to lose the meaning of the way”

          • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 3:40 pm #

            Well there are many gays and lesbians who are very ok with their biological sex and comfortable in their skin in that regard. It sounds like you are refering more to people who say they are gender fluid or something. And I am not suggesting that anyone embrace any lifestyle or orientation. I personally know gay people who are basically on the DL about who they are, hold steady jobs and one is intentionally celibate that I know of. So sure some have pathologies but I don’t think you can say all. I agree with you that there are specific roles for women and men in society. But there has always been gay people and transgender people too but they are and have always been a very small percentage of the population. There have also always been people who behave outside of traditional norms. Not saying its right but that it happens.

          • Cavepainter April 6, 2019 at 3:45 pm #

            You keep offering personal anecdote as argument against clinical data. Now please, acknowledging such data has nothing to do with whether or not an individual is to be accepted socially or otherwise as based on character, so stop tossing out ad hominem as argument.

          • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 6:30 pm #

            Then stop making ridiculous generalisations out of context, Cavepainter. Of course some individuals within a category of people who have to suffer various degrees of prejudice, even now, are going to have problems and will have a higher suicide rate. I refer you again to the brilliant but persecuted Alan Turing.

            You said ‘because such non “cis-gendered” people are actually pathological in the sense that the innate conflict between the two sexual agenda (male and female) is perpetually roiling inside the psyche of to individual. ”

            So their psyche is perpetually roiling. All of them.

            You didn’t even say ‘some of them’. Personally I don’t use daft terms like ‘cis-gendered’ anyway but that’s just me.

          • Q. Shtik April 6, 2019 at 10:47 pm #

            such non “cis-gendered” people

            ==============

            My sister is sis-gendered. I am bro-gendered.

        • seawolf77 April 6, 2019 at 10:20 am #

          That’s because you both like dicks.

        • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

          Yes, every young girl is supposed to adore Gays and have a Gay best friend who helps complete her corruption. To Gay boys behind her in the process of corruption, she then becomes a mother figure helping them to complete their process.

          The Church condemns all of this from a to z, from alpha to omega. As does every traditional Protestant sect. The World will hate you if you have the mind of the Church – and Christ promised nothing less. If you are not a Stranger to the World, then you are a Stranger to Christ.

          But a good answer at the lower or natural level. Not all women who love Gays hate Straight Men. They just make things worse in general for Us and Society.

          • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

            “Yes, every young girl is supposed to adore Gays and have a Gay best friend …”

            More straw-man nonsense along your ‘in other words’ theme. Don’t pretend I said that. I don’t have a gay best friend and never have done. Methinks the gent doth project too much. Insecurities, possibly.

            “The Church condemns all of this from a to z, from alpha to omega. As does every traditional Protestant sect. “

            So sue me. You’re not even a Christian. You’re an Aryan pagan mystic with an opportunistic Christianist veneer (TM), remember. You’re only Christian in the way of the kings who spent their lives murdering people then thought they could buy their way into heaven by building a cathedral. Don’t take that too literally. Superstitious nonsense.

            “”Not all women who love Gays hate Straight Men. “

            I don’t know any women who ‘love gays’. I know women who love a gay in their wider family, a really good friend, or their son. I don’t know a single woman who hates straight men and I’ve been around a long time. I know some exist but you really shouldn’t worry about them. They’re not going to be in that long queue of women beating a path to your door because they ‘owe you everything’.

            Why don’t you pin a list on your front door of 99 reasons all those women have to be grateful to you to speed things up.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 2:26 pm #

            I wasn’t talking to you obviously, but rather SSL. Your jealousy of our relationship isn’t funny. I wouldn’t bother bringing up Christianity with you since you don’t believe in it at all except as a collection of one liners to beat us over the head with.

            And yes, Christianity can’t protect the West or the White Race. It just doesn’t go there I’m afraid. We need some of the good old Pride and Paganism if we are going to last. And of course, since you think Pakis are Brits the second they step off the plane, you are against any resistance whatsoever. There’s no question of that. The real question is WHY? Freud talked about thanatos or the death urge. The White Race seems to have a collective death complex.

            Obviously the Church survived and thrived by letting hard men do what must needs be done. The vast majority of Christians deny this, but you see it clearly as do I. Similarly, you pretend that the New World Order isn’t and won’t be unbelievably brutal – like what was done to Emma West or Tommy Robinson. And they’re just getting warmed up, obviously.
            There is no Political Order that is non-violent. Can we agree on that? Order is established by force and kept by the threat of the same. Your chosen Order means the End of the West and the White Race – and that is simply unacceptable. Both sides will be brutal, yours in the defense of monstrous Evil and mine in the defense of Good.

          • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 3:54 pm #

            Well it is true that a girl having a gay boy bestie is sort of presented to us as a natural thing and really a stereotype. And yes I do know that this behavior and the acceptance of it is really outside of the bounds for someone who is trying to get closer to God. Its weird why some people seem to have been given over to that temptation in the first place if it is so bad. But I suppose that could be said of any temptation. Its not very easy at all to go against what is presented as normal and acceptable because then you start getting criticized and pushed aside. But you’re right. Christ did warn about it up to saying people would be martyred for going against the desires of the world. But I am not saying to embrace anything. But I have seen people mistreated too and it didn’t seem right to me so I have empathy for people who are at the edges.

          • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 6:21 pm #

            “Your jealousy of our relationship isn’t funny.”

            Your delusions are.

            “And yes, Christianity can’t protect the West or the White Race. It just doesn’t go there I’m afraid.”

            Well it wouldn’t, would it? Sorry, but you’re going to have to make a choice at some point. What would Jesus do? Him not being white an’ all.

            “And of course, since you think Pakis are Brits the second they step off the plane…

            DON’T tell me what I think.

            ‘Tommy Robinson’? He who is now being subsidised from all sides who wish to use him as a useful idiot and who now seems to be a millionaire? Poor thing. My heart bleeds.

            Your chosen Order … See above.

          • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 6:41 pm #

            “And yes I do know that this behavior and the acceptance of it is really outside of the bounds for someone who is trying to get closer to God.”

            In fairness, SSL, you believe this, you don’t know it.

            You have said before that you are open to reading about ideas that are alien to your own, so I would recommend again a pretty short book by Richard Holloway, former Episcopal Bishop of Edinburgh.

            He is a married family man and an incredibly thoughtful one. He is now ‘former’ Bishop because, over his lifetime, he found it harder and harder to reconcile himself to the official view of homosexuality within the church, and finally resigned his post. He also writes more generally in other books on the topics of morality and ethics, which you bizarrely seem to think are not a concern of non-religious people.

            amazon.co.uk/Looking-Distance-Human-Search-Meaning/dp/1841956031/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3B05X7SGRIFWA&…

            Looking into the distance: the human search for meaning

            I think he writes beautifully, but that’s just me.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 6:57 pm #

            SSL: A thoughtful and compassionate response. The Church is clear and uncompromising but I admit this is a hard one to implement if one lives in the modern world. Perhaps one can only be a true Christian in the fullest sense by becoming a hermit or in a small breakaway Church – or even a big one like the Amish or Mennonites.

          • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 7:47 pm #

            “The Church is clear and uncompromising…”

            Which doesn’t make it right.

          • SoftStarLight April 7, 2019 at 12:11 pm #

            Yes, that is actually true. In order to really follow Christ you have to basically renounce worldly desires and concerns. So it would likely be easier to achieve in isolation from the modern world. But for most people the best you can do is to remain as faithful as possible everyday in my opinion. God is forgiving too. Not to say that makes it ok to do whatever you want. You still have to stay on the narrow path. But He knows we are sinners living in a fallen world.

  55. Kiashu April 6, 2019 at 1:40 am #

    Perhaps you could write about something other than Trump et al. It’s a bit tedious.

    Climate, economy, resource depletion, city design, and fiction are among the things you have written about in an interesting, informative, and extraordinarily eloquent way. We get enough of Trump et al everywhere else.

  56. Pucker April 6, 2019 at 3:09 am #

    Should Trump now do to Hillary what Crassus did to Spartacus?

    “Along one hundred miles of Italy’s busiest thoroughfare, the Appian Way, Crassus built a monument to his victory, befitting his ruthlessness. Every forty yards, a traveler could glimpse one of the half-dead remnants of Spartacus’s army nailed to a cross, slowly suffocating and rotting in the sun. The crosses stood for months. By his own measure, Crassus had saved the Republic from a slave rebellion. His grisly billboards were designed to ensure that no one would forget.”

    Rob Goodman
    Rome’s Last Citizen: The Life and Legacy of Cato, Mortal Enemy of Caesar

  57. SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 3:22 am #

    The “resistance” is a broken record too.

  58. wm5135 April 6, 2019 at 10:49 am #

    Something I have wondered about for some time now.

    How many of the commentors here became politically aware when the Kenyan Usurper ascended to the world stage?

    How many based their entire world view on the information they received from ABC, CBS and NBC every evening about supper time?
    How many still do? Talking to you snack pack.

    How many were on a university campus during the late 60s and early 70s and had some experience of the Johnson and Nixon FBI on campus?

    How many remember this lyric – ” be the first one on your block to have your boy come home in a box”?

    How many believe it is OK to kill those who don’t look like you for a buck? How many believe it is OK to reduce those who do look like you to penury for a buck?

    How many believe that our foreign policy has been altruistic during their lifetime?

    How many believe there is a tinkers damn difference between either major political party? How many believe the Dulles boys were commie pinko lefties?

    How many believe that if we could just eliminate this, that or the other racial group the others who look like us would insure justice in the society.

    Rhetorical questions all – believe it or not I can read.

    and i know it is not your fault, nothing is your responsibility and anything goes and nothing matters only for you and the guy paying you to look the other way.

    • FincaInTheMountains April 6, 2019 at 11:06 am #

      The whole “Kenyan Usurper” story is an obvious vile rumor propagated by the patented Clintonoids.

      Unfortunately, Donald Trump at some point was forced to engage in spreading of these rumors, probably at the insistence of Bastinda, the Great and Terrible, just like she brought him into the GOP race as a spoiler for Bushes.

      Proves one more time, if you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 12:26 pm #

      Well you reveal the limitations of the 60’s mentality. Obviously there can be no racism if you just have one race in America – as the Founders so greatly desired. And obviously, Blacks are going to cause more trouble than any of the others in terms of crime and chaos. And obviously the East Asians are the biggest threat because they are so law abiding and loyal to EACH OTHER. Ditto the Tribe needless to say.

      Protest cannot be a way of life – not if you expect to keep your Nation. Combine that with other races as you people did, and voila, the Table of Tragedy is set.

      We learned nothing from the 400 hundred year saga of the Negro in America as we imported a whole new race of serfs in to do our dirty work on the cheap, namely the Hispanics. Now they rise in power and drive us out of whole States. And they do the same to the Negro. So much for the supposed love the Left has for the Black Man, eh?

      • Q. Shtik April 7, 2019 at 12:06 am #

        We learned nothing from the 400 hundred (sic) year saga of the Negro in America as we imported a whole new race of serfs in to do our dirty work on the cheap, namely the Hispanics. – Janos

        ===========

        So true, and again Rome (with their Germans, Visigoths, Burgundians, Huns, etc etc) is our guide. And to make it worse (or should I say, the same) they (Blacks and Hispanics) are largely immiscible.

        • Janos Skorenzy April 7, 2019 at 12:53 am #

          Why sic?

          • Q. Shtik April 7, 2019 at 9:50 am #

            400 hundred – JS

            =========

            The above = 40,000. You would make a lousy financial analyst.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 7, 2019 at 12:06 pm #

            What utter bullshit. This is why you get deep sixed on a regular basis, you pompous ass.

        • Q. Shtik April 7, 2019 at 10:04 am #

          as we imported a whole new race of serfs in to do our dirty work – Janos

          ==============

          Read this book I have been touting, especially the chapter titled Race against Race. You will feel greatly vindicated.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 7, 2019 at 4:45 pm #

            So why don’t you support YOUR Race since you know and shit?

  59. seawolf77 April 6, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

    When Nixon denied being a crook it was over a tax issue. Trump is not immune to what president’s before him had to go through. And Nixon was a choir boy compared to this guy.

  60. FincaInTheMountains April 6, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

    Bitter taste of victory

    I used to rejoice when my forecasts began to come true, since they were forecasts, not predictions, and I made them on the basis of a certain theory, or rather, a scientific worldview, and intuition was a hint to the area of scientific search.

    And to me, the fulfillment of my forecasts was important, because the practice is the criterion of truth.

    The fact of the matter is that my theory of world projects was supposed to replace Marxism as a scientific worldview, in the sense that the struggle of Color World Projects should replace the theory of Class Struggle as a scientific understanding of human history from a caveman to the flight of Yuri Gagarin, until the reanimation of religious consciousness advanced other factors of history and other plans of salvation.

    From this point of view, Marxism is primarily a compilation of various theories of capitalism of the time, moreover, capitalism not only as an economic system, but also as a philosophical category and cultural phenomenon of modern to Marx society.

    Another thing is that this compilation was a demonstration of such an important law of dialectics as the transition of quantity into quality – see “Three Sources, Three Components of Marxism” although it is Leninism, not Marxism.

    But I underestimated such a simple and rather obvious fact that the further I go in my conclusions from the point of view presented by the media, the more difficult it is for my readers to understand the conclusions I come to.

    For example, the scandal that the US ambassador Kay Bailey Hutchison arranged in NATO by proposing to accompany Ukrainian ships in the Kerch Strait with NATO ships is undoubtedly an attempt to use Hillary Clinton’s plan for other purposes, which I wrote about in December in real time or immediately after the death of George H.W. Bush and the launching of the radar that has closed the last holes in the early warning system of a nuclear attack on Russia.

    And we should look at this plan by imagining that Russia is sinking NATO ships in the Kerch Strait, while Vladimir Putin meets with Donald Trump, and there is a huge hole in Russian warning system of a nuclear attack, through which thousands of cruise missiles can penetrate the territory of Russia and the Russian leadership will learn about a nuclear attack only when they explode at the launch pads of the Russian missiles after a disarming strike by a “defensive” alliance NATO, including the command centers in major cities.

    And now this:

    Showdown of world powers in Venezuela enters dangerous, new phase
    The first major showdown of our new era of great power competition, unfolding with accelerating speed over the past ten weeks in Venezuela, has entered a dangerous new phase. That is true, most of all, for the Venezuelan people, but also for Latin American democracies and for vital US interests in the Western Hemisphere.

    How this drama turns out may mark the most significant test yet of the Trump administration’s credibility, following a highest-level chorus this week of President Donald Trump, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and National Security Advisor John Bolton, who all declared – in one way or another – that Russia had to get out of the country.

    cnbc.com/2019/04/05/showdown-of-world-powers-in-venezuela-enters-dangerous-new-phase.html

  61. JohnAZ April 6, 2019 at 2:10 pm #

    The USA Today reminds me of a home owned by a family. The family invites a group of people into the house as guests. At first, everything is fine. Then the guests start wanting things more and more their way. They start to complain, then push their weight around. In a house scenario, you just call them rude, then throw them out. In the national scene, once they are here, you cannot throw them out. So the key must be not to let them in in the first place.

    Does the European majority have the right to be the family and block the troublemakers from coming in or throwing them out when they become a pain in the neck.

    Did the Indians have the right to throw out the Europeans? Did the earlier settlers have the right to throw out the Indians?

    The group with the biggest clubs get to set the rules. It has always been that way.

    • malthuss April 6, 2019 at 2:17 pm #

      USA Today –with capital T I thought you meant the newspaper.

    • seawolf77 April 6, 2019 at 2:28 pm #

      What is this weight they are throwing around? How has your life been affected by latino immigrants? Why are you so vociferously anti-immigrant? Were you stung by a Mexican when you were young? How personally has immigration impacted you? Like I said before Indian immigration has affected me the most personally because Jack Welch started Tata in India and pretty soon GE was half Indian.

      • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 4:00 pm #

        And you should not have been affected by Indian immigration because it should not be allowed. That would have made things better for you. Why do we need more reasons to stop immigration? That right there was enough for me. And then we can avoid talking about all the crime brought on by illegal immigration altogether.

        • seawolf77 April 6, 2019 at 5:04 pm #

          Are you cukoo for cocoa puffs or what? Do you realize Silicon Valley is entirely composed of Indians? Do you realize how much wealth and how many jobs they create? I think your rabid anti-immigration stance is bordering on lunacy.

          • malthuss April 6, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

            I read the injuns are AA hires and lousy workers, crooks and smelly MDs, I know someone who had worked for ECFMG–the MD importing service.

  62. malthuss April 6, 2019 at 2:16 pm #

    You’re not even a Christian.

    You’re an Aryan pagan mystic with an opportunistic Christian-ist veneer (TM),

    remember. You’re only Christian in the way of the kings who spent their lives murdering people then thought they could buy their way into heaven by building a cathedral……

    [end quote]

    Honey, you really out did yourself on that riposte.
    Janos can quote Prabupad [George Harrison gave 20? million in 1970s dollars to his group]
    and Meher baba [whose books contradict ole srila prabupad].
    Then mention Krishnamurti…
    and on and on it goes. goulash.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 2:31 pm #

      Tragic. You can’t understand that the Truth is ONE but the paths to it many – like climbing Mt Everest on different trails. And yes, not all traditions go all the way to the top so you are partially right, but by denying the Truth, it just reinforces your great Error.

    • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 4:09 pm #

      There isn’t anything wrong with having a well rounded understanding of various spiritual traditions is there? I don’t understand why it matters to atheists anyway. Its not like they understand what a spiritual experience is like. So why the concern over the importance of beliefs in general?

      • malthuss April 6, 2019 at 5:39 pm #

        Janos makes them a goulash while insisting ‘diversity’ is the opposite..mix too many races or theories together and its a mess.

        • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 6:45 pm #

          I’m used to better from you, Malthus. But then again, most Baba Lovers have a deep background in the Traditions – unlike you. Does Baba ever say that only His teaching has worth and none of the rest do? Hardly. He explains them and put them in order, with His and Himself as the Capstone, yes – but nowhere does he denigrate any of the major Traditions or Paths. Now I don’t accept his claims, but I’ve benefited from his Teachings and accept them up to a point. Amazing, huh? One can pick and choose – Discrimination! Otherwise we’d be axing telephone poles out for dates….

          As for your implications? Classic Liberal garbage that is beneath you. As if because I like Chinese food, America had to open itself to tens of millions of Chinese people. That would be a “goulash” indeed, but you are against that, remember? I can like anyone and anything I want without desiring that My People, Church, Culture, or Tradition needs to die because of it. The Angels weep at this kind of mental, emotional failure. Your mind isn’t working because you resent me. Reread this later and you may be appalled at yourself. I hope so – for your sake.

          I admit most people are much simpler than me. This can be good or bad. Some are below me and some are above. This is how I am and cannot be otherwise. Kevin MacDonald studied the Jews and finds their individual psychology far more complex than most Whites. Again, good and bad. Brilliance and neurosis, great conversations and endless deception. I try to avoid the latter as much as I can, but some of it inevitable if one gets around as much as I do. I should have been a Jew perhaps, lol….

          • malthuss April 6, 2019 at 7:55 pm #

            I recall Ramakrishna, seeing a sadhu dancing ‘happily’ and saying ‘what a fake.’
            some are just wolves in sheeps clothing.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 8:16 pm #

            And he would have disagreed with Baba too. And vice versa.

            I too like to dance. But so did Ramakrishna. You are hopelessly confused about everything. There is no other choice but to become a Philosopher. Why? Because everyone is one, but almost invariably a poor one because they despised ever putting any effort into it.

      • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 6:10 pm #

        “There isn’t anything wrong with having a well rounded understanding of various spiritual traditions is there? I don’t understand why it matters to atheists anyway. Its not like they understand what a spiritual experience is like. So why the concern over the importance of beliefs in general?”

        I totally agree with your first sentence, SSL. Everyone should know more about different spiritual traditions, given how much influence they have, one way or another.

        And such an education is just as important to atheists and agnostics as to anyone else. Why would it not be? Children learn about different religious traditions at school – it doesn’t mean they’re going to turn into an aficionado of any particular one. Knowledge and understanding are important to everyone. It’s important to know why people believe the things they do and where those traditions came from, from a general educational point of view.

        And the other thing that elicits a response from non-believers, is people like Janos rapping their knuckles with comments like “The Church condemns all of this from a to z, from alpha to omega. when he might as well tell me Mohammed doesn’t like it. If you keep your personal religious beliefs out of the discussion, other people will too.

        And why would you think atheists wouldn’t have any idea what a spiritual experience is like? I’m 90% of the way through Barbara Ehrenreich’s Living With a Wild God: A Non-Believer’s Search for the Truth about Everything and I have to say, for an atheist, she’s had one heck of a lot of spiritual experiences.

        You shouldn’t be so narrow in your view of other people’s experiences.

        • malthuss April 6, 2019 at 7:57 pm #

          Barbara, I read her book ‘Nickel d and Dimed’.
          The poor thing is unable to connect poverty with leftist policies like immigration.
          Good writer, otherwise. In Newsweek? she wrote about going to a conference for unemployed people. It cost money.
          It was like a Landmark [tm] session.
          ‘you are yr own reality’ and all.

          • GreenAlba April 7, 2019 at 8:40 am #

            malthuss

            Regarding ‘you are your own reality’ and other self-improvement and ‘inspirational’ fashions, you might like this:

            thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/emergency-self-help-books-dropped-on-ethiopia-201107084051

            It particularly appealed to me because I had a colleague who used to spend a fortune going to Deepak Chopra sessions in the US and even got a bit of paper (at considerable cost) claiming she could now ‘teach’ Deepak-y things. She ended up with a credit card debt that took 5 years of austere living and no holidays to pay off. And Deepak was no help at all.

            Although he reached an elevated state of enlightenment himself early on when he had a spiritual experience showing him that you make a lot less money sticking to being an endocrinologist than you can selling new age snake oil to the gullible.

    • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 5:55 pm #

      There’s a difference between what a person knows and what they claim to believe, malthuss. Janos continues to rap people’s knuckles about things allegedly not liked by the Church Fathers or whoever, when he’s really not many people’s idea of a Christian, according to the views he holds.

      And I’ve asked you politely before not to call me Honey, in that patronising manner. You show yourself up.

      • malthuss April 7, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

        Thanks..not sure if you will see this so I will repost tomorrow.
        This site was malfunctioning for a few days.

  63. malthuss April 6, 2019 at 2:18 pm #

    Green Alba, I don’t know any women who ‘love gays’.

    –The Grand dame of CFN neve rmet a fag hag?

    • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 2:39 pm #

      They all are now for the most part. I was waiting in line to try on clothes at a Goodwill Store. The Gay guy in charge of the fitting rooms was glorying in being center stage, with the whole line his captive audience and all the ladies in line adoring him. Only I loathed him because he was so over the top and because I had had a bad experience the day before with a Gay and he was invoking it. I ignored him and restrained what I wanted to say and do.

      Now back to the ladies: Think they would have let a women get away with what he was doing? Would they have adored that kind of femininity without jealous and hatred? I think NOT!

      Being a fag hag is politically correct and women are very much into that. And the deeper reason is there too: Gays aren’t competition like other women are so they can just enjoy the “sisterhood” if the Gay is that kind of Gay of course. This one was just such a flamer.

      • seawolf77 April 6, 2019 at 3:51 pm #

        You are Ignatius O’Reilly:
        Mrs. Reilly saw again the horrible, coffee-stained lumber jacket that she had always secretly wanted to give to the Volunteers of America along with several other pieces of Ignatius’ favorite clothing.

        “You see, I was so overwhelmed by the complete grossness of that spurious ‘chairman’ that I ran from his office in the middle of one of his cretinous ramblings and rushed to the nearest bathroom, which turned out to be the one for ‘Faculty Men.’ At any rate, I was seated in one of the booths, having rested the lumber jacket on top of the door of the booth. Suddenly I saw the jacket being whisked over the door. I heard footsteps. Then the door of the restroom closed. At the moment, I was unable to pursue the shameless thief, so I began to scream. Someone entered the bathroom and knocked at the door of the booth. It turned out to be a member of the campus security force, or so he said. Through the door I explained what had just happened. He promised to find the jacket and went away. Actually, as I have mentioned to you before, I have always suspected that he and the ‘chairman’ were the same person. Their voices sounded somewhat similar.”

        “You sure can’t trust nobody nowadays, honey.”

        “As soon as I could, I fled from the bathroom, eager only to get away from that horrible place. Of course, I was almost frozen standing on that desolate campus trying to hail a taxi. I finally got one that agreed to take me to New Orleans for forty dollars, and the driver was selfless enough to lend me his jacket. By the time we arrived here, however, he was quite depressed about losing his license and had grown rather surly. He also appeared to be developing a bad cold, judging by the frequency of his sneezes. After all, we were on the highway for almost two hours.”

        “I think I could drink me another beer, Ignatius.”

        “Mother! In this forsaken place?”

        “Just one, baby. Come on, I want another.”

        “We’re probably catching something from these glasses. However, if you’re quite determined about the thing, get me a brandy, will you?”

        Mrs. Reilly signaled to the bartender, who came out of the shadows and asked, “Now what happened to you on that bus, bud? I didn’t get the end of the story.”

        “Will you kindly tend the bar properly?” Ignatius asked furiously. “It is your duty to silently serve when we call upon you. If we had wished to include you in our conversation, we would have indicated it by now. As a matter of fact, we are discussing rather urgent personal matters.”

        “The man’s just trying to be nice, Ignatius. Shame on you.”

        “That in itself is a contradiction in terms. No one could possibly be nice in a den like this.”

        “We want two more beers.”

        “One beer and one brandy,” Ignatius corrected.

        “No more clean glasses,” the bartender said.

        “Ain’t that a shame,” Mrs. Reilly said. “Well, we can use the ones we got.”

        The bartender shrugged and went off into the shadows.

        • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 6:54 pm #

          What can I say? I tolerated him despite my rage – which he didn’t deserve of course. I wanted him to chill out his flame to stop invoking my unjust rage, but of course I couldn’t tell him that.

          It was the other guy who deserved to be dealt with roughly as they did poor Quentin Crisp on occasion (a Saint in my book). I am not a Beast, but neither do I despise my Beast. He may come in handy some day. Thus he is to be exercised not exorcised as Anton LaVey (real name Levy) said.

          Quentin is hated by modern Gays because he knew that Homos are Queer and abnormal and will remain so.

      • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 5:50 pm #

        Janos

        “And the deeper reason is there too: Gays aren’t competition like other women are so they can just enjoy the “sisterhood” if the Gay is that kind of Gay of course. This one was just such a flamer.”

        I really really think you have some issues, given your obsession with this topic.

        And I’m assuming ‘fag hags’ must be ladies of a certain age, hence the name. Soooo, I have to inform you that one of the delights of getting (significantly) older is that nobody is competition, because you are not obliged to compete with anyone. Not that I was ever very competitive anyway, but I have to say it’s extremely nice to be able to chat with men of any age without there being the slightest suspicion that you might be ‘after’ them. Bliss. So I think SoftStarLight is right on this count. Her first post, that is, I haven’t gone back to see if there’s any follow up.

        • malthuss April 6, 2019 at 7:52 pm #

          A fag hag can be a pre teen, but always female.

          • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 8:14 pm #

            A pre-teen? As in a child? Sorry, but sometimes you guys are seriously weird.

    • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 5:42 pm #

      “–The Grand dame of CFN neve rmet a fag hag?”

      ‘Fraid not, malthuss, me ol’ chum. I have heard the expression but I know no-one who falls into that category. Where would you recommend to meet one? My life is not a sitcom.

      When I say I don’t know any women who ‘love gays’ I specifically pointed out that I know women who have a friend or friends, or a family member, who HAPPEN(S) to be gay. They don’t ‘love gays’ as a category like a person collects cats. Maybe we’re just more grown up and less inclined to sensationalism and exhibitionism, and can take normal human variation in our stride. Perhaps your FH category is more of a thing in more outlandish parts of the country. Who knows? Who cares? Seems to me you folks don’t have enough real things to worry about.

  64. wwg1wga April 6, 2019 at 2:49 pm #

    ****************************************************
    WE haven’t had that spirit here since 1969.
    got-truth.com/docs/We%20havent%20had%20that%20spirit%20here.pdf

    #oathkeepers

    Q.

  65. BackRowHeckler April 6, 2019 at 2:53 pm #

    Lot of words being written and energy expended over 2% of the population. Their influence suddenly seems all out of proportion to their actual numbers.

    Gays seem to be a subversive lot, undermining anything that is good and wholesome. They also are nasty. Having said that, I don’t pay much attention what organized queers say, what they do or don’t like, who they back politically and so on. There just aren’t enough of them to matter. Besides, I don’t believe pounding your buddies butt gives you special status or insight.

    On the other hand I’ve worked with various queers over the years and had no problem, and in college was on good terms with a few homosexuals who had the same major as me. Everything was cool.

    Brh

    • GreenAlba April 6, 2019 at 8:09 pm #

      “Their influence suddenly seems all out of proportion to their actual numbers.”

      The reaction to them seems all out of proportion to their actual numbers.

      TFTFY, brh

      “Gays seem to be a subversive lot, undermining anything that is good and wholesome. They also are nasty.”

      I would have considered introducing you to my delightful nephew, but you have just shown yourself to be unworthy of his company.

      “and in college was on good terms with a few homosexuals who had the same major as me. Everything was cool.”

      Why were you on good terms with them if they were nasty? I’d have had nothing to do with them.

      • BackRowHeckler April 6, 2019 at 8:28 pm #

        I thought I was being magnaninous.

        Looks like you don’t see it that way.

        Brh

        • GreenAlba April 7, 2019 at 7:46 am #

          You don’t need to be magnanimous, brh. If gay people or straight people are nasty, you can stay away from them. I don’t personally know any gay people who are nasty but I have no doubt there are many, just as there are many nasty straight people, so it would be odd if there weren’t nasty gay people.
          It’s just that we don’t look at ‘straight people’ as a category in the same way because they/we are the default.

          So if you come across a nasty gay person, you don’t just see a nasty person, as you would if they were straight, you see a nasty gay person and a bit of confirmation bias gets added on.

          I know one gay person who’s incredibly annoying (to me and my three old female student friends that I keep up with). And there is one periodic aspect of his lifestyle (that he has told me about) that I find completely objectionable and so would you. I find the heterosexual equivalent (which is enormously pervasive) equally objectionable. So I’ve spent a lot of effort avoiding him over the years – he has tried to ‘join in’ repeatedly with our…ahem…’golden gals’ group, but we have no interest in adopting him in the manner described above by Janos, even though we were more friendly with him when we were all students. We don’t wish him any ill but we’d rather have as little to do with him as possible. Preferably not at all. Not because he’s gay but because he’s him.

  66. San Jose April 6, 2019 at 3:17 pm #

    I sprained my blue eye rolling muscle reading this from today’s Wall Street Journal:

    This weekend, more than 14,000 academics will gather in Toronto to share their research for the American Education Research Association’s annual conference….Perhaps the most remarkable symposium analyses fanfiction about “Beckys.”

    “Becky” is a slur for “a stereotypical basic white girl; obsessed with Starbucks, Ugg boots, and trying to have a bigger butt.” The panel,titled “Critical Becky Studies: Critical Explorations of Gender, Race and the Pedagogies of Whiteness,” includes a paper called “Becky Book Club: White Racial Bonding in the Living Room,” which explores the “more indidious workings” of book clubs “laced with white supremacy and surveillance” Another essay, “Border Becky: Exploring White Woman’s Emotionality, Ignorance, Investment in Whiteness,” examines white women who find themselves “at the border between choosing to be a race traitor and repledging their allegiance to white supremacy.”

    Page A11 (Max Eden writing for City Journal)

    Jen in San Jose

    • SoftStarLight April 6, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

      How effing insulting but of no surprise at all. This is only the beginning of this type of propaganda IMO.

    • tucsonspur April 6, 2019 at 4:30 pm #

      Here’s another view, with Stacy:

      vox.com/2018/4/28/17290256/incel-chad-stacy-becky

    • BackRowHeckler April 6, 2019 at 4:33 pm #

      I saw that this morning in the WSJ, Jen, wasn’t really sure what to make of it. It was presented without comment and at first I thought it was a joke.

      Imagine attending that symposium with these serious ‘academics’, and trying not to laugh at them, and refrain from blurting out, “what a bunch of sanctimonious a__ holes”.

      Brh

    • malthuss April 6, 2019 at 7:54 pm #

      god save becky.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 8:13 pm #

      There is only White Nationalism for us now. The question is how long will it take for Whites to wake up to the new Reality of being a minority in a world that hates them.

  67. FincaInTheMountains April 6, 2019 at 3:49 pm #

    Epochal Evening with Solovyov: the Theory of World Projects on channel 1 of Russian TV

    This evening with Solovyov can mean not only a 180-degree turn in the information policy of Russia, but also in the policy of Russia as such.

    I do not believe that Solovyov decided on such a thing without a nod from the top. It seems that through Solovyov, the Blacks in Europe were shown a yellow card, and the Blacks in Russia were shown red.

    1:32 Koreiba begins to voice a simplified compilation of the Black World Project as outlined by Hillary Clinton in 2016. By the way, Koreiba is right about the Golden Horde and, generally speaking, Nikolay Trubetskoy writes this in Genghis Khan’s Heritage, it is called EurAsianism.

    1:40 Satanovsky justifies the inevitability of a nuclear war in Europe.

    1:45 Satanovsky voiced the link between the Back World Project and the nuclear war in Europe

    1:50 The Koreiba script crosses the red line, which gives Solovyov a reason or rather an excuse to expel Koreiba from the studio and show the above cards to Blacks in Poland both along the NATO chain of command and the West as a whole.

    By the way, Koreiba speaks the truth, he deserves a gratitude for having articulated so well the position of certain circles in the West. Yes, and in Russia, too, which is called the World Government, and so far the most consistent fighter against the World Government is Donald Trump. In particular, he voiced the program of struggle against them in his speech against globalism, which demonstrates the obvious influence of Orthodoxy, and not of Christianity in the Protestant sense.

    1:57 Solovyov talks about the anti-Nazism of George W. Bush, whose grandfather went on trial for cooperation with Nazi, in fact coming close to the “Big Bargain” between the Bushes and Trump.

    2:17 Solovyov begins to set out a theory of the World Projects, in particular, claiming that the economic power of the globalist West in general and the Fourth Reich of Angela Merkel in particular is based on the values plundered by Nazi Germany in the 1940s.

    And I would not be surprised if it turns out that this speech is a preparation for a similar speech by Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov in the very near future. The most interesting thing is that if this happens, in these circumstances such a performance will inevitably be the fulfillment of Russia’s allied commitments in accordance with the new Entente Cordiale of Putin’s Russia, Trump’s America and Netanyahu’s Israel, which in fact explains Solovyov’s use for the preliminary voicing of Russian position.

    youtube.com/watch?v=QjsngXmM0YY

    • FincaInTheMountains April 6, 2019 at 4:10 pm #

      My favorite quote from the discussion:

      Anti-Russian propaganda in the West is a normal method of dehumanizing an adversary before inflicting a nuclear attack on him.

  68. tucsonspur April 6, 2019 at 4:28 pm #

    Call it what you may, sucker punch or the muddling Mueller mule kick. They threw everything at him, rights and lefts, jabs, hooks and uppercuts. Even the uppercuts were low blow nasty. But they still couldn’t knock him out.

    They threw everything at him, sliders, curves, change ups, fastballs, spitballs even shitballs, but still, they couldn’t strike him out.

    They threw shysters, bimbos, and then the big bombs at him, the FBI and the DOJ, but he’s still ok.

    He’s the other Teflon Don. So far.

  69. EvelynV April 6, 2019 at 4:29 pm #

    A little something meant for observers of the MAGA hat wearers.

    MAGA hat wearers ought not bother because as it explains they won’t get it.

    youtu.be/wvVPdyYeaQU

    • tucsonspur April 6, 2019 at 4:53 pm #

      This is better:

      “If God did not intend for us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of meat?

      I find it rather easy to portray a businessman. Being bland, rather cruel and incompetent comes naturally to me.

      If life were fair, Dan Quayle would be making a living asking ‘Do you want fries with that?’

      You don’t have to be the Dalai Lama to tell people that life’s about change.”

    • Exscotticus April 6, 2019 at 5:44 pm #

      Fixed that for you.

    • BackRowHeckler April 6, 2019 at 6:05 pm #

      Evelyn’s here to rell us how stupid we are

      Not genius’s like people who watch MSNBC and go to Maxine Waters rallies

      Brh

  70. Pucker April 6, 2019 at 7:10 pm #

    The MSM has left the people in a state of generally Low information re: RussiaGate such that the People generally don’t realize that with the fake Steele Dossier bought and paid for by Hillary and the DNC that Hillary and the DNC tried to frame Trump and Russia, which is likely Treason. They are clamoring to “See the Report” not realizing that it may contain a big huge Turd? Not very clever…. They need to stop digging and to stop helping Trump….

  71. ozone April 6, 2019 at 7:37 pm #

    BRH,
    Since vladdie feels that it’s his business to answer questions that you personally address to me, I’ll just leave him to it. Since he seems to own this space, I hope that will suffice. (Feel free to consider the outlook of the DoD and myself as one and the same. 😉 )

    • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 8:20 pm #

      Oh, the bitterness! I jumped into the game since you wouldn’t give any more clues. He thinks you were the one who asked but it was Q. Or perhaps I don’t know what I’m talking about here. Then what’s her face ruined the game and gave away the answer.

    • BackRowHeckler April 6, 2019 at 8:22 pm #

      Oz Im assuming youre referring to my question about Venezuela?

      Yeah your approach to US interference overseas has a long tradition and was best expressed in the 20th century by eminent historian Charles Beard. (Look him up he was an interesting character)

      Actually I was wondering, considering the power vacuum in Venezuela, economic and social collapse, the fact that China and Russia have moved in, and Cuban secret police calling the shots, if you still think US involvement would be such a bad thing? Or should we stay out of it no matter what?

      Brh

      • BackRowHeckler April 6, 2019 at 8:32 pm #

        Oz, That whole exchange between you and Q, upstream, that Vlad is referring to, I had nothing to do with that.

        Brh

      • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 8:55 pm #

        What did I say about it? I don’t remember trying to “interfere” with you guys. I think you just ignored me. I’m sorry Ozzy took offense to my existence.

        • BackRowHeckler April 6, 2019 at 9:00 pm #

          This is convoluted. Im not sure what its all about.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 9:08 pm #

            That’s good. Rest abide in that Divine Ignorance. No one knows anything, ultimately. I’ve gone around the world only to settle back in Boston to eat baked beans and watch the Sun gleam off the dome of the State House. True humility is dearly bought for most of us, me included. You are more gifted in this regard perhaps.

          • FincaInTheMountains April 6, 2019 at 9:10 pm #

            It’s all about Russian hackers surfing the Universe…

            How romantic!

          • Q. Shtik April 7, 2019 at 12:30 am #

            Im not sure what its all about. – BRH

            ===============

            At its bottom it’s all about Oz’s penchant for opacity. Secondarily it’s about a female politician whose first name is a misspelling of a city in Oklahoma. (Apropos of nothing, I stayed in that city on New Year’s Eve, 12/31/62, while on my way to an AFB in Texas.)

          • Janos Skorenzy April 7, 2019 at 1:05 am #

            Tulsi is a plant sacred to Krishna. A member of the mint family. She was raised in a Hare Krishna break away group, half Samoan and half White I believe.

            Glad you see Oz’s opacity. He gets away with a lot here. That has to change. Drum beats in the Deep and along the Mohawk.

  72. Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 9:05 pm #

    As an INTP (now an INTJ), I am the rarest and the second rarest human type, sacrificing everything in order to understand. Now do other people value that? As if to say, Well I didn’t want to do it, thank God he did it so I don’t have to? Not a bit of it. They resent me and my efforts, ignoring the reality of my Sacrifice. Who does he think he is, is their attitude. Thus all are pun-is-shed and impoverished (including me financially) by their niggardly attitude.

    The attitude Malthus has taken has happened to me in “real” life many, many times. Ozone’s hatred is charitable by comparison and for more understandable, pedestrian reasons of style and content. He thinks I’m an asshole and like all Liberals, can’t stand the idea of Whites having any pride or anything of their own. Crazy? Yes, but these are his Tribal Taboos. But Malthus, oh Malthus – what excuse do you have?

    • SoftStarLight April 7, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

      Prophets are hated by their own people. And it is the same for a Mastermind. Most people won’t achieve that. And for many, the ego is too big to allow for the acceptance of one of greater intellect and vision. And then some will admit that they do feel like, “think God he did it so I don’t have to”. Being grateful in this instance is to be humble or humbled. And that is too much for many peoples’ egos.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 7, 2019 at 4:51 pm #

        I stand above them as a Mountain stands above a Plain. And since you are becoming Me, so do you. When you get the Altitude, you can have the Attitude. And you will be my Teacher too, revealing other parts of Myself, secondary or even alien to this personality.

  73. Janos Skorenzy April 6, 2019 at 9:11 pm #

    JS: Jewish Holocaust skeptic (he believes some of it) David Cole, Taki Mag

    For decades, leftist Jews have been the biggest boosters of flooding the West with Third World immigrants. “Hey, here’s a plan—let’s dump a hundred thousand Somalis in the whitest parts of the U.S. That’ll save us from Fargo Hitler!” Inundating the West with nonwhite immigrants is seen by Jews as an insurance policy against “white supremacy.” The idea is that these immigrants will act as a wedge, diluting “white power” while remaining small enough in numbers to be manageable.

    (Anglin)But then he goes into weird internal Jewish racial strategy ideas:

    In a perfect world, these rabbinical Rain Men would finally get the fuck over the Holocaust and end their war of hostility against the West. They’d see that whites are no longer the enemy, but indeed the opposite. They’d see that importing foreign mud to mold golem after golem in traditionally white regions of the U.S. is bad strategy.

    But the world isn’t perfect, and Jews are our dumbest geniuses. It’ll take a lot more than one or two Ilhan Omars to make them rethink their views. Hell, if the exodus of French Jews from a France now infested with immigrant golems hasn’t altered their thinking, nothing will.

    New generations of Jews will continue to read the golem story and learn nothing from it.

    We Jews are master storytellers. Trouble is, we prefer telling ’em to understanding ’em. And that’s both frustrating and tragic.

    JS: The simple Truth, gang green. Straight from the horses mouth.

    • FincaInTheMountains April 6, 2019 at 10:14 pm #

      Sometimes I regret that the Nazis did not make lamp shades from the skin of ancestors of today’s Holocaust skeptics.

    • FincaInTheMountains April 6, 2019 at 10:22 pm #

      Actually, I am sorry that I said that.

      As for the lampshades, this is just a very vivid symbol of the attitude of Nazism towards people.

      And it does not matter how widespread it was. Is making soap from people better? And use the burned ashes as fertilizer? And fattening the crayfish with corpses for Berlin’s pubs?

      Moreover, the nationality of the victims in these matters does not matter; the Holocaust lessons are completely different.

      Just by focusing on the Jews, they are trying to erase the memory of Nazism as such, to divide the hatred of Nazism in the national quarters.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 7, 2019 at 1:00 am #

        Even the Jews admit they made all that soap and lampshade stuff up now. Maybe you didn’t get the memo over there. Interesting, since apparently the whole scheme started in the Soviet Union. Obviously Churchill, Eisenhower, De Gaulle, etc never mention anything about it.

        See Finc beginning to take the focus off the Jews now they are beginning to lose the argument. By focusing on them as the Victims we are now victimizing them. See the switch? From Global Warming to Climate Change. It never ends we these folks. With Jews you lose.

        • GreenAlba April 7, 2019 at 6:19 am #

          Janos

          I’m not going anywhere near your cesspit of antisemitism on this occasion.

          But, while I hesitate to trivialise your antisemitic rant by comparison, I will limit myself to pointing out, yet again, your propensity for repeated, shameless lies. Because your lack of credibility matters in all spheres. A liar is a liar, and anything and everything he says should first be viewed through that filter.

          So…

          We have it again. ‘See the switch? From Global Warming to Climate Change.

          Now, I’ve explained here on multiple occasions that global warming and climate change are not the same thing. Just as going out without a coat in -40 degrees and suffering from hypothermia are not the same thing. One is going out without a coat – and the other is becoming hypothermic. There is even a helpful time lag in there to make it clearer for you.

          So, I’ll say it again, for the slow learners and the deliberately disingenuous (you know which category you fall into). Climate change is a result of global warming. Just as global warming is one of the results of an increase in CO2 in the atmosphere (the slow but critical acidification of the oceans is another).

          So, Janos, since this has been explained to you on more than one occasion already, yet you still use it to try to discredit people more honest than yourself, there are two possibilities:

          (1) You are stupid.
          (2) You are a shameless, self-serving and repetitive liar.

          Most of us on here know which you are.

          So, you may plead stupidity if you like – please, go ahead. We’re listening.

          Otherwise, please do not use this ‘argument’ again, unless you wish to compound your deserved reputation as a purveyor of repeated, self-serving lies.

          “It never ends we (sic) these folks.”

          Indeed it doesn’t. But it would be nice if it did. One lie less at a time.

          • GreenAlba April 7, 2019 at 6:50 am #

            And before the even more disingenuous pipe up, I’m talking about the current iteration of vastly speeded-up global warming, attributed by the vast bulk of scientific observers as being related to human activity.

            Climate has always changed. Sometimes it changed because of ‘global cooling’. Sometimes because of other periods of warming (but with much slower increases in temperature). We know this. I repeat – we know this. Don’t waste people’s time.

          • Q. Shtik April 7, 2019 at 10:33 am #

            That’s what I’d call a good Scottish beatdown.

          • elysianfield April 7, 2019 at 11:24 am #

            “Otherwise, please do not use this ‘argument’ again, unless you wish to compound your deserved reputation as a purveyor of repeated, self-serving lies.”

            Janos,
            Damn you for questioning “settled science”.

            …Let’s kill him….

          • Janos Skorenzy April 7, 2019 at 12:02 pm #

            Anti-Semitism – lol. You are perfectly willing, nay happy, to shackle you own mind. Because it is more than made up for the supreme pleasure (for you and your ilk) of shackling the minds of others. Thus C.S Lewis’ fears that the future belonged to small minded tyrannical bureaucrats, even in Education, have been vindicated.

            Would an Ice Age be Global Warming too – since it’s Climate Change?

          • GreenAlba April 7, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

            EF

            “Janos,
            Damn you for questioning “settled science”.

            …Let’s kill him….”

            OK, Elysianfield, now it’s you who’s being disingenuous – or the other thing. The argument is not about the science. It’s about Janos’ attempt to discredit honest people by claiming that they used to call Global Warming ‘Global Warming’, but now they refer to it as ‘Climate Change’. Because they’re devious – or something.

            But they don’t. Because Global Warming is what it says it is – an increase in global average atmospheric temperature – and Climate Change is an observable phenomenon that results from Global Warming. If the laws of physics took some time out, perhaps you could get AGW without the change in climate, but they seem to be workaholics, those laws, so we’re stuck with cause and effect. If you want to argue that AGW doesn’t cause climate change, then argue that, but that’s not the point Janos made.

            So you can question the settled science all you like, but you can’t accuse honest people of confusing the names of two separate but related phenomena when that’s not what they’re doing.

            FWIW I don’t care if Janos never understands the difference between the two phenomena – that’s only sad for him, because he’s otherwise quite intelligent. But I won’t let him get away with using his ignorance or disingenuousness on the matter to discredit people he doesn’t like.

          • GreenAlba April 7, 2019 at 1:20 pm #

            Janos

            ” Thus C.S Lewis’ fears that the future belonged to small minded tyrannical bureaucrats, even in Education, have been vindicated.”

            C.S. Lewis wrote that heaven will be full of little old ladies. Enjoy.

            “Would an Ice Age be Global Warming too – since it’s Climate Change?”

            Gawd, Janos, did you do no basic English comprehension or logic at school either?

          • GreenAlba April 7, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

            Sorry that wasn’t C.S. Lewis, it was G.K. Chesterton. But still 🙂

          • SoftStarLight April 7, 2019 at 1:32 pm #

            It’s ok to be wrong Alba. And likewise, it is ok for Janos to be right. Just because something is presented as truth doesn’t mean its true. And unaccountable bureaucracies are particularly subject to the pitfalls of human nature, like deception and distortion of the truth.

          • GreenAlba April 7, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

            I suppose I should spell it out, Janos, since we’ve come this far.

            An Ice Age would be climate change. Brought about by global cooling.

            The earth has been warmer than this before but it has never previously warmed this much this quickly, which is the problem. It’s not impossible that the current episode of global warming may at some point flip the world into a process of global cooling and bring on an ice age earlier than it was previously thought the next ice age might occur. This is conjecture, but it is being considered by scientists.

            But, whenever it happens it won’t be The Day After Tomorrow.

            As I said to EF, anyone is welcome to question the science if they can provide some robust evidence. That’s how science progresses. But it’s not OK to discredit people dishonestly because of something you don’t understand or pretend not to understand.

          • GreenAlba April 7, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

            SSL

            “It’s ok to be wrong Alba.”

            Of course it is. And it’s OK to correct yourself and add a ‘sorry’, as I did, as soon as I realised.

            “And likewise, it is ok for Janos to be right.

            Likewise, of course it is. But it’s not OK for him to try to discredit scientists by lying about their perfectly accurate use of terms.

            I think it’s been explained into the ground now, so hopefully he won’t use that particular ruse again. You are a witness 🙂 .

          • Exscotticus April 8, 2019 at 12:48 am #

            >>> An Ice Age would be climate change. Brought about by global cooling.

            Yes it would be. But if scientists can’t even tell us which of these two extremes the earth is heading toward, then I have to seriously question their understanding of the underlying forces that govern our climate.

            It’s rather like saying, “If you do that, it will either make you destitute… or fabulously wealthy!” Well, that rather covers all the bases, doesn’t it?

            And you can’t deny that today’s “climate change” was yesterday’s “global warming”. The latter is a prediction; the former is a hedge.

          • GreenAlba April 8, 2019 at 9:35 am #

            Exscotticus

            I’m sorry that you have misunderstood the point.

            We ARE currently experiencing global warming and a fair amount more is baked in, because of the CO2/AGW time lag.
            A fair amount more than that will probably follow because of our lack of action.

            Evidence extremely strongly points to the current iteration being primarily due to human activity.

            We WOULD HAVE eventually entered an ice age at some point anyway, but not within a time scale that has the slightest relevance to anyone with a meaningful relationship to people alive today.

            This current period of anthropogenic global warming is advancing faster than any previous period of global warming and HENCE it may flip us EARLIER THAN MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE CASE, into the next ice age.

            We’re still not talking about a time scale that will affect anyone you know.

            But none of that is evidence for your conclusion, which seems to be that scientists don’t know where we are or where we’re heading, which they do.

            “But if scientists can’t even tell us which of these two extremes the earth is heading toward, then I have to seriously question their understanding of the underlying forces that govern our climate.”

            There’s another version of that, which you can use another time. It goes ‘if scientists can’t even tell me if I can have a BBQ next Tuesday without it raining, I have to seriously question their understanding of what the climate will be like in 50 or 100 years’.

            Well, yeah, duh, man…

            Sorry about the caps – not meant to be shouty, just suffering from tag fatigue.

          • GreenAlba April 8, 2019 at 9:40 am #

            “And you can’t deny that today’s “climate change” was yesterday’s “global warming”. The latter is a prediction; the former is a hedge.”

            I can and I do. They are both based on basic science, scientific observation and modelling. And are both happening. Observably. One leading to the other.

            Sometimes it is easier to talk to the public mostly about ‘climate change’, because there are unfortunately a whole lot of people who don’t get that an increase in global average temperature doesn’t mean they won’t ever have cold winters again. It confuses them. You only need to look at some of the dafter comments on this site.

          • Exscotticus April 8, 2019 at 10:08 am #

            >>> Well, yeah, duh, man…

            Great—glad we agree that climate science has less predictive power than what a meteorologist can achieve a mere week from now.

            Yes it’s a science, but we’re not talking about Relativity or Quantum mechanics. Climate science is more like the science that tells us a glass of wine a day is good for your health (or is it bad?) and eggs are also good (or are they bad?). It’s shaky unsettled science that has too many unknowns to be useful.

            And so we certainly shouldn’t be making any major decisions based on it. Would you bet the world economy on what the weather will be like next Sunday? No? Neither would I.

          • GreenAlba April 8, 2019 at 11:06 am #

            Exscotticus

            “Great—glad we agree that climate science has less predictive power than what a meteorologist can achieve a mere week from now.”

            Dear God. My apologies, Exscotticus, for totally underestimating your lack of scientific understanding. I’ll know not to bother the next time.

          • GreenAlba April 8, 2019 at 11:16 am #

            skepticalscience.com/weather-forecasts-vs-climate-models-predictions.htm

            The sad thing with you guys is that you all say the same thing. And all of it more exquisitely predictable than the weather for next Tuesday’s BBQ.

            The reason I didn’t elaborate on the last bit of my post is because I really really didn’t think you were so lacking in understanding. But thanks for confirming.

          • Exscotticus April 8, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

            What I am GA, is skeptical of extraordinary claims that lack the extraordinary proof to match it.

            By that own link’s admission: “However, slight errors in initial conditions make a forecast beyond two weeks nearly impossible.”

            Well, what do you imagine “slight errors” in climate models do?

            How many climate change events have been predicted? That would be ZERO. Actually, less than zero! In the 1970s, the prediction was global warming. Now they’re hedging and saying that all that heat may cause an ice age. LOL!

            Sorry, but I can’t think of a single policy I would support based on this science. I certainly wouldn’t be getting hysterical over cow farts like AOC. There are many good environmental reasons to support green tech. Nothing to do with climate change.

    • BackRowHeckler April 6, 2019 at 10:52 pm #

      Vlad, it was the Lutheran Church that dumped 100,000 Somalis into Minnesota, not ‘the Jews’.

      Brh

      • BackRowHeckler April 6, 2019 at 10:56 pm #

        Also the State Dept. helped out bigly.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 7, 2019 at 1:02 am #

        That’s what David Cole said, not me. And of course, No Jews in the State Department, right?

        You do know they take credit for opening our borders though to begin with, right? Right?

        • BackRowHeckler April 7, 2019 at 7:15 am #

          Well, the State Dept. is still basically a WASP outfit, ostensibly my people. Let me assure you they’ll f_k us over quicker than anybody.

          Brh

        • FincaInTheMountains April 7, 2019 at 8:22 am #

          No Jews in the State Department, right?

          Senator McCarthy largely took care of that.

        • malthuss April 7, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

          BRH forgets that behind LBJs 1965 edict was Javits and Celler.
          and Hart.

          all 3 joos.

  74. FincaInTheMountains April 7, 2019 at 7:20 am #

    From the very first days of the invasion of the USSR, the Wehrmacht experienced SUCH terrible shocks from the Russian technologies based on titanium from the Urals and nickel from Norilsk that the high command in Berlin realized with horror that no one had limited the Soviet weapon designers from 1919 to 1941 .

    When the heavy titanic tank “Klim Voroshilov” with an armor equivalent of 200 and 300 millimeters just calmly drove over to the German convoy of gasoline trucks when petrol was being poured into trucks for motorized infantry, it fired a high-explosive shell into the half-empty tank, well, yes, for the effect of splashing the burning mixture on the German company of 7-10 trucks from a blown-up fuel tanker.

    rnns.ru/uploads/posts/2010-02/1266925974_0_19670_eb9329ca_xl.jpg

    In general, the Germans died there terrible death burned alive, and therefore the second fuel truck with its explosion from the Russian high-explosive projectile killed only half of a running away German company.

    A minute later, the driver, who was awakened by two explosions, and the Wehrmacht soldiers from 7-10 trucks, leaving the stretched gasoline hoses, managed to run away from the third truck.

    Here when the German 40-mm anti-aircraft guns of the Swiss construction and at times the Czech with the years of construction 1936-1938, that is, before the Munich Agreement, began to shoot at the Soviet heavy tank. However, two-thirds of the 40-mm anti-aircraft guns were made in Germany in 1938-1941, and they barked at the titanium Klim and could not kill it triple-thickness caterpillars with twice the strength of about 900 kilograms per square millimeter of manganese steel.

    When this horror in hundreds of cases was realized by the first days of August 1941, and this is in addition to the Soviet rocket shells with nitric acid and kerosene in a paraffin layer, the question arose about one thing – how long the Wehrmacht would be able to withstand the terrible power of the point effect of titanium tank raids and accurate rocket volleys from the sky on anti-aircraft guns of 75 mm, 88 mm and 105 mm calibers?

    The answer was disappointing and consisted of three words – a maximum of three months. Conventionally, Soviet rocket attacks from the sky on German anti-aircraft guns destroyed from 40 to 70 anti-aircraft guns per day with the death of trained crews almost entirely, and this is up to 500 professional artillerymen!!!

    Multiply this by 100 days, let’s say from August 16, 1941 to November 26, 1941 and you will get that the Wehrmacht would have lost at least 4000 anti-aircraft guns with calibers of 75 mm and above. Yes, an additional bonus to Moscow, from 30 thousand to 50 thousand professional German artillerymen would be torn apart.

    That is when Berlin ordered to kill sick Jewish men in front of their wives and older children, and to take the last two categories as a human shield into log ravines for what?

    That’s right, to place around the German anti-aircraft guns of 75 mm, 88 mm and 105 mm.

    It was only in this sour way that the Wehrmacht and the SS rescued their medium-caliber anti-aircraft artillery from Russian rocket shells with nitrogen and kerosene boosters.

    Understand, that a titanium cylinder with flamed kerosene in nitric acid accelerates a 50 – 100 kilogram shell to 400-500 meters per second at a ground launch.

    The air launch from under the wing of the IL-2 attack plane and PE-2 dive bomber added another 100-180 meters per second to the speed of the rocket bomb, and a total of up to 500-680 m/ and with a launch range of 2-3 kilometers from a height of 900 meters with a canopy dive.

    The living shield is named exactly this way, because after using it, LIVE is released into the place designated by the enemy to save the meat hook under the ribs of the whole of Germany.

    Well, the Germans themselves pulled the lines of the photo-telegraph from under each anti-aircraft flooring with the Jews and their older children, and only then did Moscow make sure that those anti-aircraft guns could not be turned into butcher-shops with human flesh from German anti-aircraft gunners.

    Alas, for the Jews of the present time, only the owners of quartz films with documentary footage of human shields with Jews with children from 1941-1944 are tired of hiding it in thick armored safes in Canada with the descendants of Russian emigrants.

    Some of these people knew about the human shields as the cover of front-line German anti-aircraft guns used exclusively on the Eastern Front.

  75. FincaInTheMountains April 7, 2019 at 7:49 am #

    Among other things, the SS killed all mentally ill Jews of any age and added to them Jewish degenerates with obvious signs of degeneration from the marriages of cousins.

    However, even with such bloody toll, Hitlerism had at least 7 million Jews, and not all of them were taken as a human shield, maintaining the oppressive atmosphere under the flooring with German anti-aircraft guns at the junction station from Tallinn to Odessa and from Kharkov to Zhytomyr.

    By the way, Jewish bankers, along with German industrialists, are also virtually suspended on a meat hook with evidence that their Jewish relatives covered German artillerymen from a fair, high-explosive rocket strikes from the wings with Red Stars.

    Truly, this is like the ball of Satan himself, who knows that a particular junction station was covered with German anti-aircraft guns of 88 mm, 105 mm and 128 mm, and under each concrete floor with Hitler’s guns in 1943-1944, Jews and their children sat.

    It is dreary to realize for the present elderly grandson of a long-dead Jewish banker, that he hangs virtually on a meat hook with evidence of a human shield that did not allow the Red Army to crush Hitler Germany at the latest by Christmas of 1943 when leaving for Northern France through Germany as a whole.

    Yes, the scale of the millions of direct hostages in their sad role of the human shield had precisely that strategic consequences and the deeper the meat virtual hooks dig into Jewish bankers and German industrialists…

    • elysianfield April 7, 2019 at 11:33 am #

      Kamaraden Finc!

      Pardon the brevity of this response, as I am having to type with one hand while reading the Soviet Great Patriotic War Porn….

      …Tell me again about the KV…what were the crews wearing….

      • FincaInTheMountains April 7, 2019 at 1:47 pm #

        And I am quite certain that you’re using the other hand for turning the pages – it is a page turner, isn’t it?

  76. FincaInTheMountains April 7, 2019 at 10:20 am #

    Another Dem contender self-destructs

    After a successful self-destruction committed y Joe Biden, now that:

    In Iowa, Bernie Sanders says states should allow felons to vote from behind bars

    In Iowa, of all places??!

    desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2019/04/06/bernie-sanders-says-states…

    I bet you my bottom dollars, all self-destruct button are being pushed from one place in Brighton Beach, NY.

  77. seawolf77 April 7, 2019 at 10:22 am #

    Barr is effectively covering up and interfering with the Mueller investigation. This is pure corruption.

    The Republican party is protecting a traitor, a deeply immoral man, and a criminal. Congrats on betraying the foundations of what the Republican party was supposed to be about. It looks and behaves more like criminal organization at this point.?

    • FincaInTheMountains April 7, 2019 at 11:21 am #

      Robert Mueller to Leave DOJ Soon, According to Department

      theroot.com/robert-mueller-to-leave-doj-soon-according-to-departme-1833860415

      Are you gonna miss him dearly?

    • JohnAZ April 7, 2019 at 11:23 am #

      Note that the GOP and the Dems are a matched set. Corruption abounds in DC. No kidding. The Deep State runs rampant and all of us are the victims, right?

      So why the hell do you think that giving them more power vis a vis socialism is the right answer?

      Two men stand out in the fight against the Deep State. One, Trump. Two, Howard Schultz who will do to the Democrats what Trump did to the GOP in 2016.

      Oh yeah, In Berlin today, Obama was very critical of the Progressive wing of the Dems. Looks like not all the Dems have lost their minds.

      • SoftStarLight April 7, 2019 at 1:54 pm #

        I think what you are referring to as socialism is really marxism. We already have well established socialism in the US. Although the socialism that is here now is only focused on wealth redistribution and the politically correct notion of social justice. It isn’t a socialism with the national interest at heart. Nor is it made to better the majority of America.

    • SoftStarLight April 7, 2019 at 1:42 pm #

      The Republicans and Democrats are both corrupt. You have to rise above seeing everything from just the left wing point of view. Just like I had to rise above seeing everything from just a right wing point of view. The political system that exists now has become a criminal enterprise so you are correct. But these people who appear to be fighting each other are really working together in many instances.

  78. FincaInTheMountains April 7, 2019 at 11:07 am #

    The United States announced the withdrawal of its military from Libya

    twitter.com/USAfricaCommand/status/1114803246152003585/photo/1

    The publication “The Libyan Address Journal” published a video that depicts the evacuation of American ships. At the same time, the publication noted that the US message about the withdrawal of its contingent from Libya was the first documentary confirmation of the very fact of the presence of the American military in this country.

    Earlier this week, the commander of the Libyan national army, Khalifa Haftar, announced the launch of an offensive against the capital, Tripoli.

    According to the local newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat, the troops under the command of Haftar have already established control over the international airport in Tripoli. Libyan Prime Minister Fayez Saraj accused Haftar of being a traitor and said that his army would meet with strong resistance.

    The Kremlin said on Friday it was not helping Libyan military forces loyal to eastern commander Khalifa Haftar push westward and that it supported a negotiated political settlement to Libya’s problems that ruled out any new bloodshed.

    Of course Kremlin is not involved; it’s just probably damned “Russian Mercenaries” again, right?

  79. malthuss April 7, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

    Janos

    Tulsi is a plant sacred to Krishna. A member of the mint family. She was raised in a Hare Krishna break away group, half Samoan and half White I believe.

    Glad you see Oz’s opacity. He gets away with a lot here. That has to change. Drum beats in the Deep and along the Mohawk.

    / Yr post is confusing, even to the elect.
    ‘She’–you could have posted ‘Ms gabbard’—and she is a ‘plant’ planted by the left.

    • SoftStarLight April 7, 2019 at 2:03 pm #

      If she is a plant of the Left why are they doing all within their power to discredit her and stigmatize her as a Russian agent?

    • Janos Skorenzy April 7, 2019 at 4:54 pm #

      You are desperately trying to vindicate your position with grammatical sniping. After the beating I gave you, I’m surprised you didn’t leave your body then and there.