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The staggering incoherence of the election campaign only mirrors the shocking incapacity of the American public, from top to bottom, to process the tendings of our time. The chief tending is permanent worldwide economic contraction. Having hit the resource wall, especially of affordable oil, the global techno-industrial economy has sucked a valve in its engine.

For sure there are ways for human beings to inhabit this planet, perhaps in a civilized mode, but not at the gigantic scale of the current economic regime. The fate of this order has nothing to do with our wishes or preferences. It’s going down whether we like it or not because it was such a violent anomaly in world history and the salient question is: how do we manage our journey to a new disposition of things. Neither Trump or Clinton show that they have a clue about the situation.

The quandary I describe is often labeled the end of growth. The semantic impact of this phrase tends to paralyze even well-educated minds, most particularly the eminent econ professors, the Yale lawyers-turned-politicos, the Wall Street Journal editors, the corporate poobahs of the “C-Suites,” the hedge fund maverick-geniuses, and the bureaucratic errand boys (and girls) of Washington. In the absence of this “growth,” as defined by the employment and productivity statistics extruded like poisoned bratwursts from the sausage grinders of government agencies, this elite can see only the yawning abyss. The poverty of imagination among our elites is really something to behold.

As is usually the case with troubled, over-ripe societies, these elites have begun to resort to magic to prop up failing living arrangements. This is why the Federal Reserve, once an obscure institution deep in the background of normal life, has come downstage front and center, holding the rest of us literally spellbound with its incantations against the intractable ravages of debt deflation. (For a brilliant gloss on this phenomenon, read Ben Hunt’s essay “Magical thinking” at the Epsilon Theory website.)

One way out of this quandary would be to substitute the word “activity” for “growth.” A society of human beings can choose different activities that would produce different effects than the techno-industrial model of behavior. They can organize ten-acre farms instead of cell phone game app companies. They can do physical labor instead of watching television. They can build compact walkable towns instead of suburban wastelands (probably even out of the salvaged detritus of those wastelands). They can put on plays, concerts, sing-alongs, and puppet shows instead of Super Bowl halftime shows and Internet porn videos. They can make things of quality by hand instead of stamping out a million things guaranteed to fall apart next week. None of these alt-activities would be classifiable as “growth” in the current mode. In fact, they are consistent with the reality of contraction. And they could produce a workable and satisfying living arrangement.

The rackets and swindles unleashed in our futile quest to keep up appearances have disabled the financial operating system that the regime depends on. It’s all an illusion sustained by accounting fraud to conceal promises that won’t be kept. All the mighty efforts of central bank authorities to borrow “wealth” from the future in the form of “money” — to “paper over” the absence of growth — will not conceal the impossibility of paying that borrowed money back. The future’s revenge for these empty promises will be the disclosure that the supposed wealth is not really there — especially as represented in currencies, stock shares, bonds, and other ephemeral “instruments” designed to be storage vehicles for wealth. The stocks are not worth what they pretend. The bonds will never be paid off. The currencies will not store value. How did this happen? Slowly, then all at once.

We’re on a collision course with these stark realities. They are coinciding with the sickening vectors of national politics in a great wave of latent consequences built up by the sheer inertia of the scale at which we have been doing things. Trump, convinced of his own brilliance, knows nothing, and wears his incoherence like a medal of honor. Clinton literally personifies the horror of these coiled consequences waiting to spring — and the pretense that everything will continue to be okay with her in the White House (not). When these two gargoyle combatants meet in the debate arena a week from now, you will hear nothing about the journey we’re on to a different way of life.

But there is a clear synergy between the mismanagement of our money and the mismanagement of our politics. They have the ability to amplify each other’s disorders. The awful vibe from this depraved election might be enough to bring down markets and banks. The markets and banks are unstable enough to affect the election.

In history, elites commonly fail spectacularly. Ask yourself: how could these two ancient institutions, the Democratic and Republican parties, cough up such human hairballs? And having done so, do they deserve to continue to exist? And if they go up in a vapor, along with the public’s incomes and savings, what happens next?

Enter the generals.

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  1. hmuller September 19, 2016 at 8:45 am #

    The bloated, dazed queen of pants suits is clearly more medicated than Hitler in the bunker, yet the MSM continues the charade “all is well”.

    • Cold N. Holefield September 19, 2016 at 9:07 am #

      Yep, that’s about the size of it JHK. So Many Dead Canaries, So Little Time.

      As Rome Burns

      • abbybwood September 19, 2016 at 11:14 am #

        Best line in today’s piece:

        “Ask yourself: how could these two ancient institutions, the Democratic and Republican parties, cough up such human hairballs?”

        • Greg Knepp September 19, 2016 at 12:24 pm #

          No question ’bout it!

        • HowardBeale September 19, 2016 at 4:17 pm #

          And the most prescient: “Enter the generals.”
          That’s my bet. And it I’ll bet it will happen according to Jim’s assessment:”Slowly, then all at once.” We’re doing slowly now. The generals are planning…

          • mTspaceEvolved October 16, 2016 at 3:38 pm #

            they’ve done the ‘slowly’ part over last 20yrs. NOW they’re gonna strike fast cuz we still have 2 options left to create growth spurts that will shake all the dumbs!!t. Since 90’s they’ve gained control over 80% of crop acreage. they’re growing seeds we’d have to buy, which corp. employees genetically modify (random dudes in labs) from the seeds the Earth gave me as a birthright. They could put something in wheat tomorrow that alters us however they want. They got pills to keep folks from laughin too much, they got bipolars polar opposite right?? They’ve taken away parental right to choose what is inserted into their children, they have caged people for storing rain water, they’ve used fear-based safety of the herd propoganda to keep knowledge from us long enough we think our riduclousness is funny. MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS ARE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE BETTER THAN THEY WANT US TO BE AND/OR MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION. If enuf folks become potheads in next 3 years we will last another generation before martial law and civil war happen in U.S.A.

    • Jigplate September 20, 2016 at 2:49 pm #

      Since reading JHK’s works and others on the subject, I have become convinced that the “great contraction” is just around the corner. Lately, I have been conjecturing how that contraction will transpire. The only national emergency that even approaches the coming fun and games in modern times is WWII. All things being equal, the US handled that national emergency with what seems now to be amazing efficiency. I believe that despite regional differences, The US at that time had a largely homogeneous, western European based culture. This is the key to what I see as the reason why our next national emergency will not go nearly as well. Massive 3rd world immigration- particularly from parts of the world that have little exposure to western values constitute what JHK has elsewhere labeled identity based oppositional cultures. This coupled with the incredible lunacy of our leaders will cause the next catastrophe to be random, painful and cathartic. As an example, Our current incarnation of savior, Obama, today at the UN said “, I believe that the acceleration of travel and technology and telecommunications — together with a global economy that depends on a global supply chain — makes it self-defeating ultimately for those who seek to reverse this progress.” Does he really not know that the global supply chain is going to go away?, or do they all know that the music is about to stop, and they are just afraid to tell us? Both possibilities are frightening.

      • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 3:13 pm #

        “cathartic”

        see, the future’s bright!

      • DrGonzo September 21, 2016 at 9:35 pm #

        For JHK, the Great Contraction has ALWAYS been “right around the corner” — for about the last 20 years (aka 80 quarters).

        One of these days he’ll be right, of course … in the same way that a broken clock is eventually spot-on. But in the meantime, he’s been laughably non-prescient. Just go back and look at his annual economic prognostications for the coming year, for the last ten years, and weep.

        If I’d taken his predictions seriously, I’d still be clinging to my gold bars and bags of lentils, rather than watching my investments increase in value threefold (at least) since 2001.

        I’m sorry for those who, out of fear, missed the 2008 thru 2016 run-up in equity values, which is unlikely to be repeated in the coming decade. But don’t blame glass-half-full realists like me; blame doomers like JHK for prematurely driving people underground.

  2. michael_on_clusterf September 19, 2016 at 8:52 am #

    The reason why we all cling to the notion of “growth” is what I call “The Big Lie”. The Big Lie is that we can all get rich. The moment we are told that growth is no longer possible then we all intrinsically know that the only way we are going to get better off ourselves is at the expense of someone else. And the rich know that they are only going to get poorer if the poor get richer. So we need The Big Lie in order to believe in a “better tomorrow” (as currently formulated by advertising agencies and the MSM). By the way, as a biologist, I think a better alternative to “growth” in discussing the future (than “activity”) is development. Development can occur in the absence of growth. We can develop in different ways without needing to increase our environmental footprint. The idea of “development” offers the hope of a future that is not bigger but could be different and more interesting, if not better.

    • seawolf77 September 19, 2016 at 9:52 am #

      It is a zero sum game.

      • Elrond Hubbard September 19, 2016 at 11:07 am #

        The reason why economic growth has been so popular for going on three centuries is because it feels like a positive-sum game where everyone can win. That proposition was always dubious, and we can all see for ourselves that late-stage capitalism is a winner-take-all charade. But growth was never solely a matter of what people produced through work and ingenuity — it largely came from appropriating the value that was already there, namely the natural world, and consuming it. There was cake; we ate the cake; now there’s no more cake, and so zero-sum rules are about to reassert themselves with a vengeance.

        • seawolf77 September 19, 2016 at 1:11 pm #

          Well without growth there’s no opportunity. You have to wait for people to die. To me it is sustainability. But in the central banking model it doesn’t work. Central banks need constant growth or it all falls apart.

          • mastman23 September 23, 2016 at 8:16 am #

            Like VAMPIRES the blood suckers need hosts who supply new blood

        • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 2:02 pm #

          Elrond wants people living in primitive but multi-racial (and thus not organic) villages, carefully monitored by a global police force, a Wellsian Wings Over World.

        • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 9:22 am #

          Elrond Hubbard,

          you musta’ figured by now

          …you are the cake

      • mTspaceEvolved October 16, 2016 at 3:59 pm #

        it would be the ONLY zero-sum interaction on Earth. Nature only grows better. Earthworms crap out better dirt than they take in. Humans are the ONLY negative sum interaction the Earth has. As for development/growth/activity, TIME GUARANTEES GROWTH AS A CONSTANT, pretty cool property to have in a dimension.

    • orbit7er September 19, 2016 at 10:05 am #

      This was a vintage Kunstler article which returned to sketching out our true options for maintaining a civilized existence in the age of Limits to Growth. And a key point which I heartily endorse is precisely this:
      “They can do physical labor instead of watching television. They can build compact walkable towns instead of suburban wastelands (probably even out of the salvaged detritus of those wastelands). They can put on plays, concerts, sing-alongs, and puppet shows instead of Super Bowl halftime shows and Internet porn videos. They can make things of quality by hand instead of stamping out a million things guaranteed to fall apart next week.”
      Last night I had a great time playing music with my biweekly jam. It was not a “zero sum” activity we all gained as we sounded so well playing together. Way more fun than just passively listening to iTunes or something as we joined together. Human beings crave sociability, conversation, joint song, dance and theater.
      Why do you suppose people dine out TOGETHER!
      We are a tribal species which gets the most pleasure out of community and sharing and that is the only way as Kunstler says we will survive…

      • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 10:51 am #

        went to a Taj Mahal concert. Small venue. The feeling of Pure Love.

      • abbybwood September 19, 2016 at 11:23 am #

        I was reminded of how we entertained ourselves as children in the early 1950’s in Ohio.

        Sure, there was a few minutes of “Howdy Doody” in the morning, but after that, one of our favorite activities was to put on plays for the neighborhood. (I was the writer/director, of course). 🙂

        Having each child go home and collect their mom’s and dad’s old shoes, jewelry, clothes etc. so we could “play grown-ups” was fun!!!

        Selling tickets to the play was fun! Going to get ice cream cones with our profits was fun!

        There were lots of “Little Rascals” running around the streets of America in the 1950’s prior to the age of the Internet.

        And I believe we boomers are now happier people for having lived childhoods creating, dreaming, communicating, learning and loving.

        I pity my grandchildren as they sit and “watch” anything on TV or their parents iPhones.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 2:04 pm #

        As long as the people in question have things in common, like race and culture. Don’t believe the TV imitation, where Whites and Blacks hang out together. That’s not real life, anymore than Hillary/Elrond “villages”.

        • orbit7er September 20, 2016 at 11:44 am #

          We get together all the time with a black family whose parents came from Haiti. Our next door neighbor gave the first theater lessons to our daughter. There are no such thing as races as Pete Seeger put it so well in his song “All Mixed Up”:
          “There were no redheaded irishmen before the Vikings landed in Ireland
          No Romans had dark curly hair before they brought slaves from Africa
          No race on earth is completely pure nor is anyone’s mind and that’s for sure
          Wind mixes the dust of every land
          And so does woman and man.”

          “nuff said!

          • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 7:55 pm #

            Get a picture of the Haitian/Dominican border. One a wasteland and one lush green. The difference? The Dominican Republican still has some White blood at the top.

            Ordinary people like you, stuck in their cook out mentality, just can’t get it.

          • orbit7er September 23, 2016 at 9:41 am #

            Finally!! A major embrace of the need to stop Auto Addiction in its tracks and seriously mobilize for Green Transit by Environmentalists supporting “The Climate Mobilization”.
            This goes beyond the electric self-driving car nonsense still being peddled in the Corporate media to what we REALLY have to do to survive in the age of Peak Oil and Climate Change.
            See the following for a synopsis:

            http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/22/if-theres-a-world-war-ii-style-climate-mobilization-it-has-to-go-all-the-way-and-then-some/

            And the “Victory Plan’ especially pages 50-64 on Green Transit:

            https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bze7GXvI3ywrSGxYWDVXM3hVUm8/view

            This is a major breakthrough for the Environmental Movement to get serious and beyond Auto Addicted tunnel vision!

      • EvelynV September 19, 2016 at 11:49 pm #

        “vintage Kunstler” aka boiler-plate

        Isn’t it a pipe dream to imagine we can simply cut over to the sort of laid back world where everyone works like a dog from sun up to sun down with pa hoeing hoeing the peas and butchering the pig while ma and sews, churns butter, and the kiddies doing their chores shirts.

        Phoenix rising from the ashes is the likely path of least resistance. About 95% of us won’t be around to witness it. Caches of unspent bullets and mounds of bones will puzzle future hunter/gatherers.

        • EvelynV September 19, 2016 at 11:50 pm #

          jezzzuss, this place needs an edit function,

    • J. Dean September 19, 2016 at 11:03 am #

      “Development can occur in the absence of growth.”

      Precisely, Michael. I’m an urban planner. I was lucky and had some good professors in planning school. One of the first things I recall being taught was the difference between economic growth and economic development. Quantitative vs. qualitative approaches to looking at the economy…

      • Elrond Hubbard September 19, 2016 at 11:19 am #

        Any development requires resources. As long as growth lasts, there is an economic surplus that can be used for development without any existing rice bowls being broken.

        Without growth, though, any development will entail either redistribution of existing resources (i.e. someone loses what they have for the good of others, or the common good) or no redistribution (i.e. an oligarchy of haves deploying their resources to suit themselves, otherwise known as feudalism). The third alternative is no development at all — decay. Any way you slice it, it’s fun times.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 2:07 pm #

          So you’re still a Marxist after all. Well glory be. Steady state is not decay. Simple living and high thinking. Try it!

          Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell, Elrond.

          • Elrond Hubbard September 19, 2016 at 3:40 pm #

            I understand that perfectly well. Steady state is what I had in mind with my first two options. A steady-state economy can’t happen without continual development — the second law of thermodynamics never sleeps. The distinction is between an authoritarian, oligarchical model where everyone answers to a few people who own everything, or something more equitable where people have the resources to do for themselves, on whatever scale.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number

            I only read the first few entries of Greer’s Retrotopia, but he seems to have something like the above question in mind. George W. Bush’s idea of an “ownership society” could work equally well for either model — it’s just a matter of how widely spread or how narrowly concentrated the ownership is. My preferred model would be something like Spain’s Mondragon, where every employee owns a share of the corporation. You have to buy in, but from then on you’re an owner rather than just a disposable human resource. Owning your work could be like owning your home — something anyone could aspire to.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 2:48 am #

            And if some villages, companies, or consortiums of these wished to exclude Blacks and form their own union based on race and culture, surely no one could object.

    • sooty September 19, 2016 at 12:42 pm #

      Good idea, but the problem is, the most common usage of “develop” in this so-called culture is that of building tacky structures on land–land that’s called “raw” or “undeveloped” even if it’s an ecosystem going full throttle. Case in point: Donald Trump is a “developer.” Too bad, b/c in all other uses I can think of, development means movement to further complexity: one develops an idea, a sonata develops a musical theme, a fertilized egg develops organ systems, etc. Only in land “development” is a more complex system simplified–banalized–into the likes of parking lots, mcmansions, and lawns. (Fwiw, I offer “conversion” as an alternative to land “development”; it’s value-neutral enough that “developers” might actually use it. And historically, conversion is usually forced down the throat of the converted, so that’s covered).

    • routersurfer September 19, 2016 at 5:15 pm #

      Good concept. Will it be planned development or random? We better get back to teaching science and real thinking skills before The Magic returns. Peace.

    • mastman23 September 23, 2016 at 8:29 am #

      New development sprawl should be taxed to hilt making it less desirable than renovation and redesign of existing areas already here.

      Some other issues that are never addressed:

      Coastal development continues to be underwritten by Governments disaster relief funds and flood insurance. This has to stop if you built once got paid say after katrina that should void out any future clams on that address not the person because titles can be moved to other family names quickly. Just look at the Super Storm Sandy looting of fed funds and they rebuilt on the same lots . Stupid or just fraudulent governments looking for votes?

      Corporate pollution:

      Last year we had the massive gas leak from a storage well in CA that over 30 years old went on for months. Remedial action for the industry NONE

      This week Florida Aquifers poisoned by radio active water leak to aquifer 250 million gallons. They first kept it secret from the public even the DER did not tell residence until news release. Their solution was to let this Global Fertilizer Conglomerate just hire a private consultant who issues a report in less than two weeks that water is safe. BULLSHIT

      Corruption will not allow change

  3. newworld September 19, 2016 at 8:59 am #

    Quibble point, Trump has mentioned the FED and its fairy dust, not that more than a few percent of his supporters know what it entails if the FED is brought to heel and the Obama Bubble is popped.

    Yeah the GOP is crazed revival evangelical shit show of half wits cucked into worshipping mammon but the Donkey party is the Jim Jones cult writ large kept from exploding into a frenzy of despair by tax loot and fairy dust rhetoric which Hillary cannot deliver.

    WAG Hillary cannot make the debates Ds elect to go with Michelle Obama because she is the only one out there who can spray the fairy dust over the D coalition.

    • SteveO September 19, 2016 at 11:00 am #

      While we’re into quibble points, it’s really the Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen bubble. The occupants of the white house just went along for the ride.

      I’ll bet none of the presidents during this period had the least understanding of the damage bubble economics would do or has done. They only understood that if things looked good they would get re-elected and the party could continue.

      • newworld September 19, 2016 at 5:42 pm #

        They get pressured but yeah same difference

      • Majella September 19, 2016 at 6:53 pm #

        You should add Rubin, Summers and Friedman to the list of culprits, let alone the various slime balls running the Wall St Scam banks.

    • abbybwood September 19, 2016 at 11:30 am #

      Too late for a “do-over”.

      The crooked DNC and the Superdelegates had a chance to correct their course of action even on the heels of a FBI criminal investigation into their chosen candidate.

      The Superdelegates could have put the guy over the top at the convention who had the youth vote and the energy behind him, plus he had a consistent double-digit lead against Trump in all polling.

      A deal was made with Hillary Clinton, I believe, in 2008 when she lost to Obama. She was promised to have the path in 2016 now here we are.

      Today’s LA Times/USC poll shows Trump beating Clinton by 7 points.

      And the next collapse and Wikileaks dump is still on the horizon.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 2:11 pm #

      Yes, the Democrats are a giant cannibal cult, eager to eat what’s left of the White Middle Class. They’re even inviting their cousins overseas to come and enjoy the feast.

    • mastman23 September 23, 2016 at 8:33 am #

      Nothing can help the Dems except a WAR and that is getting ready to start any day now in Syria

  4. Leftbanker September 19, 2016 at 9:03 am #

    Sorry, folks, but there is a difference between Hillary and Trump. Is Hillary my first choice? Of course, she isn’t. She will bring a competent staff along with her and she is a serious adult no matter what her failings.

    Gloom and doom is easy to dish out; solutions require a bit more intellect.

    • newworld September 19, 2016 at 9:40 am #

      Hillary is done, she won’t make the election, her decline has begun and its descent to death can only be arrested and slowed not reversed.

      She by her nature is a micro manager and the stress of the mental gymnastics required will drain her.

      Anyway in a couple of weeks you will be here telling us how Michelle Obama is the right choice with no mention of Hillary.

      • abbybwood September 19, 2016 at 11:32 am #

        I think it is Hillary’s constant lying that will be her demise.

        She is incapable of telling the truth.

        And now when she builds lies upon the lies it appears she is beginning to believe her own bullshit.

        • newworld September 19, 2016 at 5:44 pm #

          No Democratic anything cares about her lies, it’s all about the loot. The D voters I know even joke about it, they’re all in on it thinking they have no personal responsibility.

    • Piper Michael September 19, 2016 at 9:50 am #

      I think I just threw up a little in my mouth…
      Her shills and marxist trolls live everywhere nowadays…
      How much do you get paid to shovel her shit?

      • S M Tenneshaw September 19, 2016 at 10:35 pm #

        Speaking of shit, Trump is the kinda guy who would never ever take a bath or even brush his teeth. Even a still photo of him stinks like shit.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 2:49 am #

          You’re projecting your own ugliness onto another. Shame.

          • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 3:16 pm #

            stop being so ornery

          • S M Tenneshaw September 21, 2016 at 8:53 am #

            Oh noes! Shamed by an alt-rightist, haw haw haw.

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 10:00 am #

      “Gloom and doom is easy to dish out; solutions require a bit more intellect.” – Leftbanker

      must be new here

    • Zoltar September 19, 2016 at 10:24 am #

      Yes, Hillary’s people would be highly competent at implementing the catastrophic wishes of the Deep State.

      It is way too late for competent government. The best we can hope for at this point is crippled government, too hobbled to hasten our race toward the precipice.

      A vote for Trump is a vote for crippled government. Compared to Hillary, that sounds pretty optimistic.

      • EvelynV September 20, 2016 at 12:08 am #

        Great headline I saw –

        “Trump is the symptom, Hillary is the disease.”

    • Walter B September 19, 2016 at 10:59 am #

      There are occasions where intellect is of no value other than entertainment. Those of us who excelled at physics realize that the laws of our world govern all things and all actions and while they may from time to time be ignored, in the end the laws hold true. Look around you at the planet on which we live, there is a system that exists that is everywhere and rules all things. Entities start out as tiny little object like seeds and embryos and then grow. They continue to grow until are mature. They live or exist until they reach their maximum span then they fall over and die. This is why there are no three mile tall trees or no 200 year old men. Everything has its lifespan including all of the works of man and the systems and things he “creates”. The system of “endless growth” as our wise host always points out may have gone on for quite a long time and has even dragged it’s rotting carcass down the road for far longer than many of us have been able to believe, but in the end, well it will find it’s end and die. It is not gloom nor is it doom, it is just the way that physics works.

      In the olden days when men were men and led from the front, a change of course could have been made and the end would have been averted. Good men, wise men can make such choices and changes. Unfortunately those who lead us today are slackers and cowards who hide in the back or under the surface and direct their mindless minions in whatever direction it is that will buy them more time at the top. This inevitably leads to collapse, usually from without as well as from within. There is only one solution to the dilemma which America faces today and that is collapse. It is natural, it will be cathartic, and the longer things go on until it happens the more devastating it will be. What, do you want to live forever?

      • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 11:18 am #

        “They live or exist until they reach their maximum span then they fall over and die….. It is not gloom nor is it doom, it is just the way that physics works.”

        i wish i could help you to understand that Everything Continues.

        • Walter B September 19, 2016 at 11:31 am #

          Of course everything continues and everything is tied together as well, but current physical form is cast aside just as our current failed systems will be cast aside and replaced by a new paradigm.

          • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 11:50 am #

            you are very correct

      • sooty September 19, 2016 at 12:51 pm #

        What’s with all the” good men, wise men, manly men” crap? One critical thing this embattled planet can do without is continued dominant governance by the testosteroned half of the population. Just stop with the man thing.

        • Walter B September 19, 2016 at 6:47 pm #

          Well I suppose we will all have the opportunity to see how well we are led when Her Majesty Hillary Rodan Clinton ascends her throne. Should be a mix between Cleopatra, Marie Antoinette, and Medusa all mashed together into a fine puree I would think. Of course the British Queens did manage to do an exceptional; job of Globe Raping I must admit. We may very well see more of the same. I cannot wait!

        • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 10:57 pm #

          Women voted for the Muslim invasion. After the New Year’s Eve night of terror, they came out and endorsed the Muslim invaders again. They (you) simply do not deserve to vote. Feelings is all they have and it worse than nothing.

          • Walter B September 20, 2016 at 12:58 pm #

            Women were done a big disservice by the Gloria Steinem/women’s “liberation movement. Not only was one of the most noble, important and critical jobs that can be done in any society is that of a wife and a mother but this work has been revered by every civilization that has ever existed (except for ours now) and is critical to society itself. Women have never built societies, cities nor infrastructure throughout the course of human events, but then they have not destroyed them by war pillage murder and rape. Men hold both extremes while women have kept the middle and more important ground secure so I simply cannot see why we have gone the way we did. Oh, that’s right, by conniving the ladies into the work force, greedy executives were able to find half price help (a ceiling that still exists today), as well as keeping harems of concubine/secretaries close at hand to be abused and used as well. No, I am sorry but if the best leader a nation, an army, or a society has got is female, I would state that this is a sad and sorry statement for the caliber of the men available for the same service. After the ladies have their way of softer, kindler, gentler, more politically correct “leadership” our Islamic immigrants will easily take over and show us all the error in this approach, correct Ms. Merkel? When leadership stands up to no one, eventually they will bow down before all. This is where we are headed so prepare yourselves.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 7:59 pm #

            Yes, there is a wonderful speech where Hitler explains to women why he didn’t want them in the army; how he saw many men ruined for life by the stress alone, what to speak of crippling injuries. Women’s battle is child bearing and child rearing.

          • S M Tenneshaw September 21, 2016 at 8:57 am #

            Missed that whole Maggie Thatcher phenomenon, didja Walter?

          • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 11:35 am #

            “Yes, there is a wonderful speech where Hitler explains” – Janos

            watching speeches between porn films

            which arouses you more?

    • SteveO September 19, 2016 at 11:03 am #

      “solutions require a bit more intellect.”

      None of the contenders from the corporate or third parties have enough intellect to even see the real problem, let alone come up with a solution.

      My gawd, are we so screwed!

      • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 11:19 am #

        “corporate or third parties” do NOT run life

      • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

        Gary says weed is the answer. If everyone stayed high, we’d use less energy. Also hemp can be used as fuel, to make rope to hang traitors, as a food, etc.

        Weed and Coal – those are the answers. Guns too, mandatory for all citizens. Every man a King (Huey Long) and every man a soldier.

    • Lawfish September 19, 2016 at 1:45 pm #

      You really think Hillary has solutions? What a crock! In order to have solutions, one must acknowledge the problem. Neither Hillary nor Trump acknowledges the fact that the perpetual growth model of prosperity is and always has been doomed to fail. It’s an attempt to print wealth into existence by stealing the anticipated wealth of our progeny to spend on endless wars and give-aways for ourselves. When the cornucopian fools finally figure out what’s happening, it will be far too late for top-down solutions. I suggest you prepare yourself for a future with less. Less energy, less stuff, less complexity.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

      Serious adult or demented power crazed maniac beholden to the dark forces of Global finance? Read what Colin Powell said about her in the DNC leaks.

      It’s all about the leaks now. Try and keep up.

    • routersurfer September 19, 2016 at 5:18 pm #

      What solutions? Sorry most people on this site know we eat oil for every meal. Stir in overpopulation and a side order of nukes. Please, give me a solution.

  5. wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 9:03 am #

    Enter the generals? They reign over the most bloated wasteful bureaucratic inefficient federal government agency consuming half our discretionary budget. The generals do not win wars and fight among themselves.

    The generals have already entered… some lined up behind Hillary and others lined up behind Trump.

    Both candidates are miltarists. Both promise a “strong” military… as if it is not strong enough… as if a stronger military would do anything other than consume our remaining finite resources at an even faster rate. That way lies madness.

    • baird September 19, 2016 at 11:25 am #

      Take a look a E.F Schumacher- Small is Beautiful, and this was 40yrs ago. We may not have known for sure then but we strongly suspected that the existing state of affairs was not sustainable. We are slow learners for sure the sweat hogs of nature.

      • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 11:51 am #

        “this was 40yrs ago”

        i been preparing for a long time

        doesn’t shake me up

      • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 2:18 pm #

        A great man and strong advocate for clean coal. The Miner is the Man of the Future. We should be living underground anyway to save energy and to be ready for nuclear war.

    • abbybwood September 19, 2016 at 11:36 am #

      Go see Oliver Stone’s “Snowden” if you want a glimpse at how in charge the generals are.

    • routersurfer September 19, 2016 at 5:38 pm #

      Truth. We do live in mad times.

  6. ozone September 19, 2016 at 9:07 am #

    “The quandary I describe is often labeled the end of growth. The semantic impact of this phrase tends to paralyze even well-educated minds, most particularly the eminent econ professors, the Yale lawyers-turned-politicos, the Wall Street Journal editors, the corporate poobahs of the “C-Suites,” the hedge fund maverick-geniuses, and the bureaucratic errand boys (and girls) of Washington.” -JHK

    JHK,
    “The end of growth” is (to my ear) the very soul the predicament and doesn’t frighten me a bit. The poobahs of all stripes have shot their wad and have produced some very mutated offspring. I too wonder why another approach is not even *allowed*, much less contemplated. Where does one go to be brainwashed into such rigidity of thought and action? Even in the structured “hallowed halls” of this country’s universities, one would assume that flexible minds would find a niche in which to pursue some thoughts about something other than how to get fabulously wealthy. (Maybe it’s *because* I haven’t been through a diploma mill that new/different approaches always intrigue me… simply for their own sake; I dunno.)

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 10:02 am #

      “The end of growth”

      matial growth slows

      while Spiritual Growth grows

      It is The Way of Things

      • ozone September 19, 2016 at 10:29 am #

        DB,
        That is very tangential to my comment/question and I find it neither germane nor useful (in context).
        But, have at it…

        • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 10:55 am #

          my reply Completely Corrected your Comment, ozone.

          You comment that all this growth caused disaster and that the solution will not be allowed to be tried.

          I write that the solutions are underway as we speak.

          I am sorry that you won’t allow that too.

          • ozone September 19, 2016 at 11:41 am #

            Horseshit of the most blatant kind.
            This is what you wrote:

            ““The end of growth”

            mat[er]ial growth slows

            while Spiritual Growth grows

            It is The Way of Things”

            That’s nothing but new-agey pop-speak and had nothing to do with what TPTB will allow or disallow or rigidity of purpose caused by ossified training/thinking.

            You’re establishing a pattern of hollow contrariness and diversion/distraction. So, have at it, but I will consider your “responses” as useless and unnecessary provocations that need no reply. (Personal opinion *only* you understand; others may find you highly delightful and utilitarian.)

          • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 11:54 am #

            for the “others may find you highly delightful and utilitarian.”:

            “had nothing to do with what TPTB will allow or disallow or rigidity of purpose caused by ossified training/thinking.”

            WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING THE tptb to have say over your LIFE?

          • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 2:21 pm #

            Thich Nhat Hanh agrees with you, Danny. Neutral impression can be turned into positive ones thru attention. Is this not real growth?

          • baird September 19, 2016 at 3:49 pm #

            Janos,

            I should know better than to do this but you are a strange piece of work, from racism to Thich Nhat Hanh, huh?

          • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:27 pm #

            yes

            especially that “…agrees with you, Danny”!

          • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 11:02 pm #

            Baird, did you go to Bard college? Or is every college Bard college now? They have narrowed our consciousness with their false categories.

            Example: Burmese Buddhists are pushing the Muslims into the sea. Contradiction? No, Buddha didn’t teach non-violence for non-monks. That’s a conflation or confusion of categories. Why are they doing this? Because they want to survive. That’s simple enough, isn’t it? Does one need to justify it?

    • routersurfer September 19, 2016 at 5:43 pm #

      We go to entertainment. TV, Cable, radio the whores of the Corporate State. A bit of misdirecting by schools of all stripes also helps. Western Civ. 2016!

      • ozone September 19, 2016 at 6:06 pm #

        routersurfer,
        I hear you there. I was taught very early on not to trust the output and manipulative agendas blasted through the idiot box moving-picture/talking-heads show. As I grew, the wisdom of this mistrust became more and more obvious. I’m happy to say that I wasn’t steeped in constant tech bullshittery, as I can see how nicely designed it really is for manufacturing consent to massive evils. (Not to mention the intrusive eye of the Omni-state.)

        As Georgie the Lesser might intone: “We’re workin’ hard to keep you safe.”

        • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 11:04 pm #

          Taught by who? Your Da? Your Marxist Ma? Good on them then. Too bad they didn’t teach you about blood – esta la vida!

  7. Neon Vincent September 19, 2016 at 9:16 am #

    “Neither Trump or Clinton show that they have a clue about the situation.”

    Or, possibly in the case of Clinton, won’t show that they have a clue. After all, it’s hard to get a man (or woman) to understand something if his (or her) salary depends on his not understanding it, to paraphrase Upton Sinclair. Ever since Ronald Reagan beat Jimmy Carter, it has not paid American politicians to show that they understand resource depletion and have a plan other than getting more resources to deal with it. Even if they do, they’ll phrase it in ways that fit within the paradigm of growth, as both Obama and Clinton do about renewable energy. It’s about the effects of reducing waste and pollution and dependence on other countries who don’t like us very much more than reducing consumption.

    As for Trump, you once predicted that Americans would elect maniacs who would promise that they could keep the entitlements of suburbia. Trump has shown you to be right and wrong about that. Yes, they’ll elect maniacs to protect the entitlements of suburbia, but those entitlements turned out to be psychological and social, not physical. Trump’s support is more a response to threats to the social environment as it is to losing SUVs and McMansions, which with the price of oil being low right now, are not issues like they were in 2008 and 2012. Instead, it’s immigration, terrorism, and “law and order.”

    Instead of any of the deeper issues about sustainability being salient, it’s the Trump Foundation vs. the Clinton Foundation, which represents how trustworthy and transparent each candidate is. That would work in a business as usual environment. Too bad these are not business as usual times.

    I’ll finish by wishing you and your readers a happy Talk Like a Pirate Day. Rum cocktails for everyone. Drink up me hearties, yo ho!

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 10:25 am #

      “I’ll finish by wishing you and your readers a happy Talk Like a Pirate Day. Rum cocktails for everyone. Drink up me hearties, yo ho!”

      The MOST WELCOME COMMENT EVER ON CFN.

      it’s raining here like crazy here, so i’ll take your generous advice, Neon!

    • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 2:24 pm #

      Glad you are accepting the inevitable. Your boys clinched it over the weekend with their terrorist antics. It may go hard on them if they don’t change. You better start preaching tolerance in the streets of Dearborn. Of course you’ll probably get stoned for your trouble.

    • routersurfer September 19, 2016 at 6:02 pm #

      The Bush family understands. They have huge land and water holdings in South America. A crack security force also I would guess. They get it.

  8. malthuss September 19, 2016 at 9:32 am #

    This is for Janos,

    The size of babies’ heads at birth is strongly linked to their future success, with larger head circumferences and brain volume associated with higher intelligence, scientists have found.

    The finding is among the first to emerge from data gathered by UK Biobank, in which 500,000 Britons are being studied over the long term to discover the links between their genes, their physical and mental health and their path through life.

    A key target for the research is unraveling the complex links between brain function and DNA — one of neuroscience’s great challenges because so many genes are involved.

    and
    Cubans have a great deal of Castilian blood flowing through their vanes, while the Puerto Ricans are heavily Hutu. And PRs act like Blacks. IQs similar—85 = mentally retarded.
    .And PRs act like Blacks [violent, anti social, lazy].
    There is evidence of this across many communities in NY and elsewhere.
    Puerto Ricans from NYC, Philadelphia etc.have destroyed traditional White working class towns.

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 10:27 am #

      Janos is still trying to recover from:

      “They can put on plays, concerts, sing-alongs, and puppet shows instead of Super Bowl halftime shows and Internet porn videos.”

      • malthuss September 19, 2016 at 10:37 am #

        I think of you as ‘Danny Bore.’.

        • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 10:59 am #

          please stop thinking of me

          obsessions are creepy

          • seawolf77 September 19, 2016 at 1:27 pm #

            OCD- Obsessive Creepy Disorder

    • sooty September 19, 2016 at 1:07 pm #

      How are Puerto Ricans “heavily Hutu” when Hutus are from Rwanda, which is East African, landlocked, and which did not succumb to the slave trade? Do you mean Taino?

      And that’s only the tip of the ignorance iceberg in your statement about “violent, anti-social, lazy” blacks and Puerto Ricans and what they’ve got in their “vanes” [sic].

      BTW, I have a very large head. So you know I’m right.

      • malthuss September 19, 2016 at 2:23 pm #

        What hat size?
        And yr gender?

        I read that PRs are 20% African, on average.
        Thats what ‘hutus’ are.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 11:08 pm #

        Bring back my sooty day. Steampunk is the future.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 2:27 pm #

      Yes, small heads usually mean small brains which usually mean small intellects. The Cuban upper class must have a strong ethos of separation, otherwise they’d be gone by now. The boat people they sent us were the absolute dregs of Cuba.

      • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:28 pm #

        planning a cuba trip

        to see their best

        and beautiful

        (same as i always do)

  9. malthuss September 19, 2016 at 9:37 am #

    ‘We’re on a collision course with these stark realities. ‘
    Like Sharia?

    Over week end,
    NYC bombing
    NJ “
    Minnesota
    St Cloud riot
    4 Cops shot today 9/17/16.
    2 Ft.Worth, Texas, 2 in Philly.
    Texas cops.shot are Hispanic officers.

    Background of Perps unknown but the good news is they are DEAD!
    yeah ISIS has already come out and taken the responsibility for the attacks in NY and the Stabbing attacks in ST Cloud Minnesota.

    Its all over face book now, the reports. Imagine little ST Cloud Minnesota, surrounded by farm communities, it has to be sheer terror for those living there, which of course was the plan.
    Coming to a City or town near you, Obama gets his next wave of 100,000 mus-blacks next year.

    Are they all terrorists? Who knows, they cant be vetted. Its unlikely they are all terrorists, but what is this, America, we take the good with the bad now and hope for the best? What kind of message are people like Obama and Clinton and NY Mayor sending to the Country, by allowing any of these , no, enabling all of these so called refugees to come here?

    • newworld September 19, 2016 at 9:47 am #

      If we allow the white liberals to front lash the news cycle to tell us what “Real Islam” is like then the show can continue on for quite some time, we could have an Omar the gay slayer event per week and support for refugees could be increased. Never underestimate the power of the narrative if the narrative is all the masses hear.

      Is the media in a precarious position? Certainly but since the “opposition” has no ability to ask any pertinent questions of it the media slides by.

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 10:30 am #

      you know, malthuss, that there is a LONG HISTORY of outsiders coming into our idyllic town of nyc and bombing.

      even bombed JP Morgan Bank once,

      if you can imagine

    • SteveO September 19, 2016 at 11:10 am #

      And people wonder why the police are on edge and trigger happy.

      Go figure.

    • abbybwood September 19, 2016 at 11:47 am #

      And then there is this:

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-800-immigrants-mistakenly-granted-citizenship-130452164–politics.html

      And all from “suspect” countries.

    • seawolf77 September 19, 2016 at 1:31 pm #

      Compare that to 1,000,000 dead in Afghanistan and Iraq, all their infrastructure destroyed, and Jimmy Crack Corn and I don’t care.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 6:56 pm #

        So you want that to happen here to fulfill some idea of “justice”? In other words, America and Americans don’t matter to anymore than Afghanistan and Afghans. So why should you be allowed to be a citizen here?

    • InquiringMind September 20, 2016 at 5:01 am #

      Hello malthuss,

      I’m beginning to wonder if I’m prophetic or something.. SIGH……. . (I really just think it is intuition or common sense ) On August 2nd, at 3;22 a.m. on Kunstler’s blog article “Let the Games Begin” I mentioned the absolutely real foolishness of allowing into the USA the huge numbers of refugees our current political elite want to send in to our nation. I said that NO ONE is Teflon and sheltered from the fruits of STUPID political choices of leaders.

      I guess the good people of Chelsea NYC ,….and the folks in Minnesota (hopefully)…will wake up too like the rest of Americans have in other states and see that Hillery’s promise of prosperity is HOLLOW without the solid base of SECURITY underpinning it! Almost a year ago I began to voice my concerns about this topic on this blog. I guess the Jersey Shore has more concerns as well.now.

      This will probably not stop, I regret to say. TOO many carelessly vetted people have already entered now. But we still have a slim chance to assimilate the peaceful Muslims here already. But it will still threaten our safety when lone wolves or “cells” emerge from among these masses. For more generations …who knows how many…it will be “dicey” and we will feel like we are being ……….
      nibbled TO DEATH by frogs!!!!! I compared Hillery to Angela Merkel about a year ago!!! I would say PLEASE reconsider a vote for such a massive refugee transplant into America folks. I don’t know…..But maybe she and the current politicos are in league with BRUSSELS !!! They want us to all swallow their mistakes in foreign policy.

      the mayor of NYC acted disgracefully when he was politically cornered by this situation. Nothing he says now on T V will cover for me for how he wouldn’t speak up when we knew what it was inspired by. The Gov. of New York looked shocked and sheepish too…didn’t he? I am soooo very disgusted with this behavior. And these very CUCKISH politicians caught up in this HOT MESS probably will have the GALL to verbally threaten … Americans with what
      ever…

      if they express their angst even just verbally …

      and say….now oh no don’t anyone dare hurt the little refugees ..

      What the blankety blankety blank do they think of US? Do they really think WE are the violent ones that mean harm to anyone????!!! THAT IS JUST NOT SO!!! It is TOTAL BULLSHIT!

      THIS REVERSAL of FAVOR and PROTECTION to the REST of the darn WORLD amounts to a Treasonous attitude as far as I am concerned.

      And I said CUCKISH …Yes,In fact I said it!….Ms. Hillery sure knows how to KICK THE HORNET”S NEST I had never heard of the Alt-Right until she tried to demonize this movement so…like millions of others…. I looked it up ..and found out that it is young and OBSCURE……and I learned a NEW WORD. ….

      CUCK

      A perfect description for sell out politicians that sell out their people for favors from rich special interests.

      So…when good solid women of NYC and Jersey and Minnesota are holding their babies severed legs and hands in their hands when crazy extremists from the middle east decide to DO THIS crap again……………..

      I hope no one says to them….”But the poor refugees were running from war and terrorism .

      Hillery doesn’t have a plan. Her vision isn’t clear and simple enough. She is lost in the weeds. She is unredeemable in her spite towards Trump supporters while she shelters foreign hordes from HELL!

      Do watch how the C..ks will begin to “Cover their BUTTS” suddenly find wisdom and sound like Trump has sounded for months now.

      Does anyone really care about Birther Bullshit now?!!! It is insignificant compared to having to identify the body parts of your loved ones.

      • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 3:26 pm #

        “I guess the good people of Chelsea NYC ,….and the folks in Minnesota (hopefully)…will wake up too like the rest of Americans have in other states”

        funny how so many americanos like to respond for NYC.

        i especially liked it when every americano OUTSIDE of nyc knew how it felt and what to do.

        don’t you americanos have other things than nyc to think about?

        i’m succeeding.

        • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 4:43 pm #

          “i especially liked it when every americano OUTSIDE of nyc knew how it felt and what to do [after 9/11].

          my first mistake, j

      • Danny jr2 September 23, 2016 at 11:56 pm #

        The US is the primary source of weapons. We sell billions of dollars worth all over the world. Violence is how we keep the lights on at home, while brown people die all over the world . The snake is eating it’s tail.

  10. Sandero September 19, 2016 at 9:44 am #

    What we witness is the inevitable outcome of the ponzi scheme we know of as capitalism. There is no other outcome in a closed system. Call it limits to growth or whatever… the DNA of capitalism is not sustainability but exploitation. Sure it can hum along as long as there are resources, energy, labor and food and water to sustain the population which grows pretty much unchecked. All of this was known for a very long time. No one did much about it because it required a paradigm shift from selfishness to altruism. And that ain’t happen’. You get pockets of altruism but this is like dealing with a mosquito bite when you have end stage cancer or all the food has no nutrition, is laced with toxins and the water in not potable.

    Lots of people managed to make it to the grave and live a cushy life and enable their heirs to do the same… But as the whole ship is going down… the folks in the fancy staterooms are in for a dose of reality.. and survival and in this one very few are going to make it and it ain’t gonna be like the gook old days the republicans long for.

    • routersurfer September 19, 2016 at 6:07 pm #

      You are so correct Sandero! Nice post.

  11. Piper Michael September 19, 2016 at 9:45 am #

    Ah, The Religion of Progress… is what you speak of James…
    Here, in the nether regions of NC, I have now seen something I have not seen since the 1970’s…

    “OUT OF GAS” signs… gas lines… quickly rising prices…

    Grumbling, mumbling and cursing… oh my!

    “One silly pipeline causes all this?”

    (The Colonial pipeline)

    Progress… indeed.

  12. shotho September 19, 2016 at 9:46 am #

    It isn’t just the decline of the institutions of finance and politics that are failing. All major social institutions are failing; education, health care, transportation, military, community and, especially, the family.

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 10:31 am #

      shotho,

      I figure CFN readers to be all financiers and politicians

      crying in their beer

  13. wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 9:46 am #

    Ironically suburbia will elect Hillary Clinton. Among suburban white college educated Hillary is beating Trump. Obama lost those voters by 14 points. They will provide Hillary with states like Pennsylvania and Virginia giving her 270 electoral votes, thereby taking Bill Clinton, our first black president, out of Harlem and putting him back in the White House.

    When Hillary is inaugurated in January 2017, the generals, who have no fire in their bellies, will smile, salute, and do what they swore an oath to do: uphold the Constitution. The generals will do nothing that would endanger retiring comfortably with their military pensions.

    • seawolf77 September 19, 2016 at 9:54 am #

      Double Bush and now double Clinton. America ought to hang its head in shame.

      • SteveO September 19, 2016 at 11:13 am #

        It sucks living in an empire in decline. We’ve even gone to dynastic rulers. The founding fathers are spinning in their graves.

        • seawolf77 September 19, 2016 at 1:33 pm #

          Exactly. They learned their lesson with Bush, now they have to relearn the lesson over with Clinton. The first Bush wasn’t even very good. At least Bill was tolerable.

      • routersurfer September 19, 2016 at 6:09 pm #

        Tired of waiting for the end….. Trump It!!!!

    • abbybwood September 19, 2016 at 11:49 am #

      The electoral race will come down to Maine and New Hampshire.

      And I think it is Maine where the Electoral votes are counted by counties.

      November 8th could be a very long night.

      • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:30 pm #

        how does that electoral college work?

        seems confusing

        • routersurfer September 19, 2016 at 6:10 pm #

          It works against us and for Party Bosses. 1972 scared the Hell out of the DNC.

  14. drewkeeling September 19, 2016 at 9:57 am #

    In between failed presidents and “entering” generals, there are a number of other divided powers and potentialities, checked and balanced, bequeathed to America by the framers of its Constitution. Those intermediate resources have not been looking very robust or farsighted of late, to say the least, and they certainly cannot be taken for granted, but it would be imprudent to write them off wholesale as already extinct. An overabundance of viable alternatives is not a general current condition, and the inadequacy of whatever viable tools remain calls for more encouragement of them, not less. For instance, (contrary to impressions commonly conveyed by the mainstream communication media recently), the US presidency is only one of many thousands of important political offices being filled in this year’s general election. More attention to at least a few of those, while it might still have an impact, would certainly seem warranted.

  15. George September 19, 2016 at 10:00 am #

    Standing waves of incoherence

    There’s a phenomena that can be reproduced in a small body of water, a pond for instance, whereby standing waves can occur that are the resultant of converging forces. For example when a set of waves rolls into a confined area like a bay these waves will reflect off the shore and combine with the next set of waves to create standing waves at some distance from the shore.

    Something similar is happening with rhetoric and dogma these days. There are those that insist on delineating reality in accordance with outdated philosophy or dogma. And, as things fail to operate in accordance with what they think they should, the louder they proclaim their rhetoric and dogma. It would be somewhat simpler if there was but one brand of rhetoric and dogma but alas there are several all competing for center stage. And metaphorically each set of these produces its own set of waves. And all these waves converge we’re witness of standing waves of incoherence.

    • K-Dog September 19, 2016 at 10:29 am #

      As standing waves are always reflections of waves of the same frequency, your standing waves of incoherence are actually reflections of ignorance.

  16. seawolf77 September 19, 2016 at 10:00 am #

    Once the growth begins to slow and it becomes clear that it is permanent and that contraction is right around the corner, people will turn on one another and civilization will break down. When a national candidate for president from one of the major parties is this xenophobic, the end has to be near. The so called War on Terror is really a license to attack these people. I think we are at Peak Oil. I don’t think we will ever be this oil rich again.

  17. Zoltar September 19, 2016 at 10:06 am #

    The reason “this elite can see only the yawning abyss” is that they know, if only viscerally, that in the world that is coming they will not survive, because they will have nothing to contribute to a society which will have neither the means nor the inclination to carry their dead weight.

    With the help of people like you, Orlov, and Greer I understand what is coming and have attempted to prepare for it. I don’t have far to fall in a collapse, am not encumbered with debt, have useful skills, some of which don’t require electricity. For all of that, I still find the prospect of imminent collapse profoundly frightening, and am by no means confident of surviving.

    The creatures that have wrought the impending collapse are completely useless. Their ability to invent new derivatives or manipulate spreadsheets won’t earn them so much as a crust of bread, and they have grown too arrogant to know how to ask for one politely.

    After we haul their carcasses down from lampposts, we ought to bury them in our gardens so that, in the end, they will have contributed something to society.

    • Sandero September 19, 2016 at 10:41 am #

      No one survives 4 score and 20… and many don’t even make that.. and few will make it with resistant viruses and bacteria partying on the rot we leave… including our very own selves. Pity the children who will see their dreams and illusions complete shattered. The millennials are facing that reality… there is no future… and now ain’t all that great. Enter the religious nuts and their idiotic dreams of heaven on earth so on… Thank dog I won’t live to long to see this death spiral in full bloom. Dystopia r Us.

      Didn’t take all that long… once we figured out how things work a bit.

    • elysianfield September 19, 2016 at 11:22 am #

      “The creatures that have wrought the impending collapse are completely useless. Their ability to invent new derivatives or manipulate spreadsheets won’t earn them so much as a crust of bread, and they have grown too arrogant to know how to ask for one politely.”

      “After we haul their carcasses down from lampposts, we ought to bury them in our gardens so that, in the end, they will have contributed something to society.”

      Dannyboy,
      Stay your hand…I’m sure that the above comment was not directed at you entirely….

      • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 11:25 am #

        my hand is steady

        know why?

        i’m right

        and happy, too

    • Elrond Hubbard September 19, 2016 at 11:50 am #

      “Sane, sane, they’re all insane
      Fireman’s blind, the conductor is lame
      A Cincinnati jacket and a sad-luck dame
      Hanging out the window with a bottle full of rain
      Clap hands, clap hands
      Clap hands, clap hands

      “Said roar, roar, the thunder and the roar
      Son of a bitch is never coming back here no more
      The moon in the window and a bird on the pole
      We can always find a millionaire to shovel all the coal
      Clap hands, clap hands
      Clap hands, clap hands…”

      — Tom Waits

      • malthuss September 19, 2016 at 2:25 pm #

        His music went way downhill in the 1980s.
        He even allowed his wife to work on the songs with him and get co credit.

  18. K-Dog September 19, 2016 at 10:22 am #

    If contraction could be bent and hammered into any shape which benefits a small elite minority it will be considered growth. Of course we all can’t benefit from contraction in this way but that that some actually attempt to obtain patronage simply by being whining apostles of collapse shows the world to be mad. From this perspective enter the generals and exit the authors will oddly make better sense of the warped mess currently inflicted on all of us living on this rock.

    Considering the huge numbers of people who eek out livings producing absolutely nothing of value (authors are not alone in this) the end of growth will simply be the birth of consequences and oddly a bit of sanity if viewed from up high. On the ground it will resemble the chaos of an earthquake releasing years of the festering tensions of financial inequality.

    • Dumbedup September 19, 2016 at 11:06 pm #

      This “selfie” culture is destroying itself. Now we will all have to learn to get along face to face.

  19. davidreese2 September 19, 2016 at 10:26 am #

    We Americans do have other choices besides Hillary and Donald. We can vote for either Jill Stein of the Green Party, or Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party. Either is far better than the two major candidates.

    Indeed, if Black swans come home to roost, this may be the last time we have to elect a President.

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 10:33 am #

      vote for me

      you won’t be sorry

    • K-Dog September 19, 2016 at 10:33 am #

      “this may be the last time we have to elect a President.”

      Anybody who actually thinks we elect Presidents is deluded. Dead Presidents elect Presidents and choice is an illusion.

  20. AWAYOUT September 19, 2016 at 10:34 am #

    Hello everyone, I’m new to the site and have enjoyed reading JHK and the reactions to his blog. I can’t help but think that the human race has been in desperate trouble before and found a way out, here’s a possible solution to at least some of our problems that was literally shut down way back in 1960s:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6BXvw6mxtw

    • malthuss September 19, 2016 at 10:36 am #

      Energy is a double edge sword.

      • K-Dog September 19, 2016 at 10:40 am #

        Yes, abundant free energy will simply breed more yeast people.

        • malthuss September 19, 2016 at 2:28 pm #

          I meant more Mitsubishi’s.
          They create the equipment to clear cut the Rain Forest.

          More energy = more plastic.
          More ‘mile long fishing lines’ etc.

          100 years ago people recycled. Now its not just throw away,
          its throw away plastic and landfills that get compressed so germs dont decompose the food and paper waste.

    • Sandero September 19, 2016 at 10:46 am #

      energy is the only problem??????????????????

      • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 11:01 am #

        Man’s use of the environment is a reflection of his limited perspective.

        That can change

        • malthuss September 19, 2016 at 2:29 pm #

          what? the world will change?
          Or man will change?
          Or mans ‘perspective’ will change?

          Be more clear.

          • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:32 pm #

            man’s perspective

            that will change the world

            any more questions?

            i’m here to help

      • AWAYOUT September 19, 2016 at 11:21 am #

        Hi Sandero, no it isn’t, politicians like Nixon shutting down the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor program are a big part of the problem, thorium is extremely abundant and available all over the world so it can’t be controlled and rationed out for huge profits like oil. Products that are built to last and actually designed to be recycled would also be a step in the right direction.
        I think that technology (robots getting cheaper etc) is going to cause an ever widening gap between rich and poor if we are stuck with the current financial system, but certainly this isn’t inevitable, almost nothing is, we have more options available to us now than any generation that has ever lived!

        • thenuttyneutron September 19, 2016 at 10:50 pm #

          Awayout,

          Give up now. You will only get frustrated by trying to show a viable solution. There are laws not controlled by man. Thermodynamics if one of them and this is what our problem is all about. We have used up all the non-nuclear options for raising the entropy of the universe and extracting work out of it in the process.

          I studied nuclear technology for many years and have worked in the industry for 12 years. The current designs were a horrible mistake that many people are unwilling to abandon. The Molten Salt Reactor (MSR) is the stepping stone towards the commercial development of a Thorium cycle MSR.

          Just accept that the hopeless youth of this country must take the reins of power from the elders to get any hope in changing our current course. You need the mass suffering hopelessness of our youth to get the political capital to move it forward.

          Sadly I think our only hope is to get a rational adult into office. I think that the last adult to sit as POTUS was Dwight Eisenhower. All the rest after him were charlatans and grifters. Dwight warned us about the MIC and we did not listen. I still cling to the hope that a strong moral man like him comes along and leads the charge of change against the sociopaths that are currently in the wheel house.

          I think it is ironic that Eisenhower pushed the atoms for peace initiative that a MSR would be perfectly suited to filling the roll of peaceful use of nuclear technology.

          -TNN

    • Sandero September 19, 2016 at 10:43 am #

      We are fiddling while Humpty Dumpty falls. The soundtrack… available on spotify!

      • K-Dog September 19, 2016 at 10:46 am #

        And we get the soundtrack for free but paying for the shipping and handling is going to be a killer.

  21. SteveO September 19, 2016 at 10:51 am #

    “They can build compact walkable towns instead of suburban wastelands (probably even out of the salvaged detritus of those wastelands).”

    The concept of a walkable community has been fraudulized too. Here in southern New Hampshire, they are bulldozing a 100+ year-old former family owned apple orchard to create a “walkable community”. The town government has latched onto that buzz word and forced the developer to create what they really don’t understand since they have spent their career building sprawl.

    So the developer is going put over sized houses (McMansions) too close together and put sidewalks on the streets. The problem is that there is no where to walk to. There are no jobs nearby, other than a handful of slave wage retail positions, and no public transportation other than an express bus to Boston (40 mile one way trip).

    • Beryl of Oyl September 19, 2016 at 11:16 am #

      In an allegedly ‘walkable’ area here, I see sudden new development of the “sprawl” variety, where it formerly was not allowed by zoning. I think they believe the fact that there will still be sidewalk remaining makes it walkable, but in fact the presence of multiple curb cuts and driveways make it not only unpleasant, but dangerous for pedestrians, while in wintertime the snow will be plowed across the sidewalk, making the area impassable. I’m referring to Union Street in Niskayuna, just beyond the Schenectady border.
      All around me I see evidence of the government not taking the idea of community seriously, when it interferes with the automobile culture they claim to be working to end.
      Witness Fuller Road at Washington Avenue Extension in Albany. It was bad enough for anyone trying to negotiate that area on foot, but now, with that traffic circle, forget about it. Also, a laboratory or whatever it is, supposedly devoted to the study of climate change, is swallowing up what was a rather pleasant neighborhood, conveniently close to things. Not to mention it’s (or it was) a pine barrens.
      Speaking of retail positions, people in those jobs can’t join bowling leagues, community theater, or even plan on attending Thanksgiving dinner with their families. They don’t know when they will be working, often from one day to the next.

      • BackRowHeckler September 19, 2016 at 11:51 pm #

        Speaking of walkable cities, S Dallas has thousands of wild dogs roaming the streets … and attacking pedestrians. People are afraid to go out, and kids can’t wait for schoolbusses for fear of 10,000 feral canines.

        Sounds kind of 3rd world, doesn’t it?

        As they say in ‘Walking Dead’, “No more walking, it’s too dangerous. From now on we travel by automobile, or we don’t go at all.”

        brh

        • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 4:45 pm #

          “Speaking of walkable cities…”

          you gotta’ know what i’m thinkin’

    • J. Dean September 19, 2016 at 11:30 am #

      Accurate in my experience. The great majority of neo-traditional planned communities built in the last 20 or so years have been half-attempts or worse– complete failures (nothing more than a sprawl suburb with a “walkable community” billboard at the entrance).

      A tiny few have succeeded. And when they do, outsiders complain because the community’s property values are too high.

      • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:33 pm #

        “outsiders complain because the community’s property values are too high.”

        i hear a lot of that

  22. Gonga Din September 19, 2016 at 10:57 am #

    If lowering taxes on business indeed leads to increased employment, it would seem reasonable to make the relevant tax rate reductions contingent on the number of jobs created.

    • SteveO September 19, 2016 at 11:20 am #

      Not many major corporations actually pay taxes, but if they are going to lower corporate taxes farther, why not do it in a way that encourages hiring rather than economic speculation and off-shoring labor?

      • Dumbedup September 19, 2016 at 11:17 pm #

        Because Senators and Congressmen and women don’t actually write laws. Corporate legal departments write everything. They would never let anything pass that would not benefit them.

  23. lsjogren September 19, 2016 at 11:02 am #

    Having hit the resource wall, especially of affordable oil, the global techno-industrial economy has sucked a valve in its engine.

    Come on, Jim. Oil and natural gas are dirt cheap right now. That’s a key reason the economy has kept on chugging. (Also, the continuation of Defcon 5 economic policies ever since 2008)

    Yes we will hit the wall but that’s not where we are today and it may well be many decades until we do, with the temporary but huge glut of fossil fuel resources that have come from learning how to squeeze a bit more out of the ground.

  24. lsjogren September 19, 2016 at 11:04 am #

    Whoops, make that Defcon 1, my mastery of Cold War Studies is a bit iffy.

  25. goatgirl September 19, 2016 at 11:09 am #

    This is why I love JHK; It can’t be easy beating this drum. It’s gotta get monotonous, but he sure sticks to it. Points out what should be obvious to people who are guilty, mostly, of simply being human.
    They need to hear this. We need to hear this. Those just coming to it, as well as those who have known this for some time. He holds, and maintains such solid, steady, reliable perspective. No conspiracy theories, just good old reality. Like an open window on a winter day.

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 11:23 am #

      you might consider changing “Like an open window on a winter day.” to something like: “Like a warm hearth on a winter day”.

      Or, if you prefer to stick with what you got: “Like an open window on a Summer’s day.”

      see what i did?

      • seawolf77 September 19, 2016 at 1:35 pm #

        I think the boy who cried wolf is more apt here. I think at the end the boy gets eaten.

        • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:35 pm #

          “I think the boy who cried wolf is more apt here.’ – agree

          “I think at the end the boy gets eaten.” – it’s his gig. everyone’s entitles to their work. also, i’m a fan, so i’d help out

      • goatgirl September 19, 2016 at 4:16 pm #

        No, I meant open window, winter day. It’s freakin cold out there and we need a good blast of reality to wake us up. Too many cozy moments by the fireside won’t help your survival rating if there’s wood needs chopped.

        • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:38 pm #

          i sat by the fire during the rainstorm this morning.

          you know, you can buy split firewood.

          (you can buy somethings, but no The Most Important Things)

  26. lsjogren September 19, 2016 at 11:12 am #

    Enter the generals.

    That’s not necessarily bad. Egyptians elected an extremist government committed to intolerance and persecution toward minorities, and the generals wouldn’t stand for it, staging a coup to replace the extremists with a regime which advocates coexistence for all Egyptians. (and which appears to not carry the ugly baggage of the previous military-backed regime)

    And it’s not like our country is still a democracy. The Democrats have gone a long way in dismantling our system of separation of powers and due process and the Republicans are so stupid they just sit there like a bunch of beached whales. (apologies to the whale community)

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:39 pm #

      visited Egypt right before things blew up.

      figured something was up

  27. amb September 19, 2016 at 11:26 am #

    The viewpoints in articles such as this one are perennial. They actually fit any point in man’s history. Our societies and “civilizations” have always been chock full or ignorance, false data, corruption, etc.

    The human species continues to bungle through, walking upon a thin tight rope with the yawning abyss of disaster and extinction patiently waiting below.

    It’s man’s genius, creativity, compassion and will to survive (as infrequent as it is) that has kept us atop the rope.

    Same as it ever was.

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:39 pm #

      amb short for America’s Best?

    • Dumbedup September 19, 2016 at 11:19 pm #

      It’s worse now. The corporations own everything and manipulate information on a broader and more comprehensive scale than ever before.

  28. AWAYOUT September 19, 2016 at 11:33 am #

    I would agree with amb, we are led by the worst of us, but we have always managed to pull back from the brink of disaster, from a historical point of view it was far easier in the past to fool all of the people all of the time, now with the internet etc, that isn’t so easy, people are starting to wise up!

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:40 pm #

      there’s always AWAYOUT

      where there’s a will there’s a way

      really

      • routersurfer September 20, 2016 at 5:07 pm #

        Take a right at the next Black Hole and enjoy your trip over The Event Horizon. Just keep saying a way out, a way out……..

        • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 5:36 pm #

          yes

          time-space boundaries are so over

  29. Beryl of Oyl September 19, 2016 at 11:34 am #

    I disagree about Donald Trump. I see a man taking great pains to gather as much knowledge as he can from the best sources available.
    Jimmy Carter was mentioned above. I see a resurfacing of Jimmy’s old energy policy with a new label of Climate Change. It looks to me like an attempt to get the masses on board with rationing and conservation to stave off the looming I don’t know what to call it, crisis is used incorrectly these days.
    Hillary isn’t posed to spring. She can’t keep her feet and has to be hauled around like a duffel bag on a Greyhound bus.
    Our leader, out campaigning and ‘fundraising’ while we are under attack again, tells a black audience they need to vote for the candidate of his choice for president, because he’s black. Okay. He also makes some remarks about how people but not him of course are afraid of powerful women. I think he means strong not powerful as Hillary has no office at all at this point, and a woman who has to be hauled around physically doesn’t exactly qualify as strong, either. She’s the candidate the media has decided is the only acceptable one, however. Why? Could it be they need to keep the Rackets going to keep their privileged positions?

    • Lawfish September 19, 2016 at 3:27 pm #

      “I don’t know what to call it.” How about the long emergency?

  30. AWAYOUT September 19, 2016 at 11:51 am #

    I’m not from the USA, but from what I’ve seen Trump seems to change in front of an audience, when interviewed one to one he seems quite thoughtful at times, when he’s in front of an audience he sometimes sounds like a jackass…but its show business, the man knows how to put on a show, he’s been buying politicians for a long time hasn’t he? If so, he has a natural contempt for them, the rest of us can only guess what they are like behind closed doors, Trump knows them all too well…

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:42 pm #

      “I’m not from the USA…”

      we think bigger than national boundries here on cfn

      cosmic

      the world is my family

  31. Bro Jobe September 19, 2016 at 12:05 pm #

    “The poverty of imagination among our elites is really something to behold.”

    Amazingly succinct statement that speaks worlds. It need not be this way, but would anyone listen? JHK has given TED talks and published widely, so he’s part of the elite in some manner, but who is listening?

    Marcus Aurelius, that greatest of Roman leaders, appeared to fret about what we’d now call “Peak Empire,” but Romans didn’t get his drift.

    Then came what historians now call “The Crisis of the Third Century,” replete with the society dividing into thirds and going to war. Then followed military emperors. Rome never recovered but began a slow, inexorable, slide to oblivion.

    I’m feeling chilly right now.

  32. wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 12:06 pm #

    “Enter the generals. That’s not necessarily bad.” –lsjogren

    The generals are politicians. So you are saying politicians are not necessarily bad, which is true is a few cases (Bernie comes to mind) but in most cases they are drunk with their power and use it to satisfy their greed. Generals do the same, fighting for funding for their pet “defense” projects. The Pentagon has such projects going in every congressional district in the country. We have intelligence agencies with “black budgets” (nobody can know how much) who commit illegal acts like “extraordinary rendition” (aka kidnapping), “black sites” (extrajudicial prisons), “enhanced interrogation” (torture), etc.

    The generals spend money so fast they can’t even keep track of it. The Pentagon accountants cannot say where TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS have gone. Pentagon projects consume natural resources at an alarming rate and produce environmental pollution.

    The generals are bad news. They should stay under strict civilian control. The military itself should be downsized by 90% and the 800+ military bases around the world should be shut down.

    So much fossil fuel is wasted by the military jetting around the world, moving people here and there, producing nothing of value, just wasting taxpayer money.

    • seawolf77 September 19, 2016 at 1:40 pm #

      The military industrial complex is the natural extension of the central banking model, always has been since the days of Venice. Back then it was called the Venetian Arsenal, and its ships ruled the seas. This morphed into the British Empire after the Venetians were chased out of Europe after The War of the League of Cambrai. It has finally settled in New York City. That’s what Kubrick tried to tell us in “Eyes Wide Shut.”

      • seawolf77 September 19, 2016 at 1:42 pm #

        Oh I forgot Fedelio, the secret password in the movie, is both a opera by Beethoven and a modern day magazine that used to be put out by Lyndon LaRouche, who espouses these ideas too.

      • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:44 pm #

        “It has finally settled in New York City.”

        “All good things come to The City” – Al Pacino

      • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 7:06 pm #

        Yes, I’ll never forget the Chant in the Ritual: beautiful but of utter despair at the same time. Very strange. Do such things really happen? Probably.

        • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 7:37 pm #

          “Do such things really happen?”

          Everything happens

  33. Cold N. Holefield September 19, 2016 at 12:07 pm #

    November 8th could be a very long night.

    Not for me, it won’t be. I’ll be asleep by 10:30pm — GUARANTEED.

    Whichever one is APPOINTED, it will make no difference whatsoever for The Little People. The Egregore is its own entity now that we feed and it feeds us until it devours us entirely. It’s set a course for the Heart of the Sun, and there’s no turning back. Grow or Die — those are the only two choices IT will permit.

    To Serve Man

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:45 pm #

      “I’ll be asleep by 10:30pm — GUARANTEED.”

      me too

      early to be
      early to rise…

      • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 7:08 pm #

        Three men are awake in the dead of night: the bhogi, the rogi, and the yogi. The enjoyer, the sick man, and the meditator.

        • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 7:38 pm #

          i have Wakefullness in Sleep and Dreams

  34. capt spaulding September 19, 2016 at 12:14 pm #

    Just read a book called RISE OF THE ROBOTS by Martin Ford. Some of you may find it interesting.

  35. volodya September 19, 2016 at 12:27 pm #

    How do you trace the threads in this Bayeaux Tapestry of absurdities? You can’t. Just stand back and look at the big picture.

    The bi-coastal Intellectual-Yet-Idiot Elite (as Nicholoas Taleb calls them) lay bare their idiocy with each passing day. Hillary is their leader. Hillary, supported by her allies in the fight to entrench corruption and their own privilege, does an enormous service in showing contempt for the great mass of Americans by calling people in fly-over country “deplorables”. It wasn’t just Hillary, her allies come out in force telling everyone that Hillary is entirely correct. They say that the facts and the evidence prove it. They say they have the charts and the numbers.

    Well, we should thank Hillary and her allies for showing their true colors. Nothing like truth in advertising don’t you think? Now, why would Hillary tell people she hates them? It’s because Hillary and her allies think they’re invulnerable, that they have nothing to fear, that their position in the food-chain is guaranteed so they can fully reveal what they REALLY think about people they want to govern.

    Of course, in this, as in so much, Hillary and her allies are idiots. You can govern only with the consent of the governed. Especially if they’re heavily armed. Everybody ought to know this. First you insult people and then you expect their consent?

    Hillary and her elitist friends have no case. They built irreconcilable contradictions into their two projects of the past generation: globalism – its main feature the offshoring of economic mainstays of the US: and identity politics – its main feature the divide and conquer fostering multiple sub-national identities via policing of thought and speech.

    It’s not only the laughable contradictions that will be the undoing but also the the sperm and egg for the contradictions, the jaw-dropping IDIOCY and the blatant DISHONESTY.

    But, no matter Hillary’s temporary ditching of the TPP, the bi-coastal Intellectual Idiots that support Hillary tell us that Globalism, MUST continue, it MUST be defended from the dark forces of opposition.

    For example, they tell us that the nation state has to have open borders. Seriously? How can a polity survive the incoherence that results from uncontrolled borders? It can’t. We’ve seen examples all through history. Yet the same people that tout open borders tell us that what characterizes such enlightened people as themselves are the social programs delivered by that same nation state that they do their best to undermine.

    Same idea with dismantling the income and wealth of the American working class by moving industry to despotic regimes where people earn a dollar an hour. So, who’s to buy all the output? Dollar and hour slaves or unemployed American workers?

    None of it works. Globalism is a failure. You have a multitude of examples all over the world that show that a nation state doesn’t work with people nurturing antagonistic identities and grievances. ZIRP and NIRP are the dangerously low blood pressure of an economic system in extremis. Yet the perfumed elite tell us this is the way forward.

    It’s over. Summon the priest.

    • messianicdruid September 19, 2016 at 2:20 pm #

      We change diapers and politicians ( includes the 1% ) for the same reason.

      A basket of disposables.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 19, 2016 at 7:14 pm #

      Well said. An engine only works if it is enclosed, the explosion then creating pressure and work. No borders? The economy wont work as a coherent engine of production for the people, but only a tool of exploitation by and for the Oligarchs.

  36. JimInFlorida September 19, 2016 at 12:30 pm #

    I would argue that the Top 1% is the unsustainable class. We should be glaring at them before talking of austerity for the masses. The energy and materials stolen to make one super yacht could put a hundred low-income families to work on some useful New Deal-style works program.

    Before the burdens of adjusting to a World Made By Hand are imposed upon the masses, the Top 1% will have to be the first to take a haircut. Not a stylish trim but a bootcamp buzzcut! The survival of civilization must take precedence over their legalized rent collecting schemes. There is a lot of stolen material wealth that can be recovered and repurposed. It is stolen, regardless of whether it was legal or not at the time.

    As for the energy and resource end of things, the world’s manufacturing sector wastes more materials and energy producing things of little or no value i.e. novelties, sports products, junk food, and job-destroying technology.

    The shortage of energy and materials will require that production be concentrated on necessities i.e. basic food, utilities, clothing, building materials, and other items that might have been used by a middle class family of the 1920’s. There is more than enough to provide everybody with a good home, clothing, sanitation, and food. Just not at 2016 levels! Because of automation and robots, the actual cost of production is far lower than what we pay at the retail level. There’s a LOT of skimming, excess profit, and padding tagged onto the price of such products and THAT needs to be brought under control as well. Again, the Top 1% must be blocked from skimming rents and pocketing ill-gotten profits.

    Now… as to how such discipline can be imposed upon the Top 1% to succor the rest during the Great Readjustment…. it may take extraordinary measures…. IF we have the will to survive.

  37. wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 12:35 pm #

    “Grow or Die — those are the only two choices IT will permit.” –Cold

    Such binary thinking negates other options. Contraction can be done in an intelligent manner so as to attain sustainable survival at a lower level of consumption.

    A lower level of consumption does not mean “medieval” or “third world” … it just means a rational sacrifice of our unhealthy and unjust levels of consumption. Energy contraction leads to a healthier lifestyle and a new focus on “we” instead of “me.”

    I never made more than $33,000 per year working. I started my own economic contraction ten years ago by learning to live simply.

    After getting debt-free, finding an inexpensive place to live, learning skills, becoming part of a community of like-minded people (I support them, they support me… because we all think in terms of “we” not “me”), I now have my affairs in order …

    I am now enjoying the benefits of energy contraction, so I am speaking from personal experience. It can be done. It does not require “capital” to produce wealth. I now consider myself wealthy… with a total of $15,000 annual non-taxable income… That is why I do not agree with Cold that the only two choices are to “Grow or Die”

    I know how to live luxuriously within my means. Anyone can do it. Just takes some planning, an adventurous spirit, and self-discipline.

    • vegeholic September 19, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

      I believe a good target destination would be the world of Charles Dickens (~1850). World population was between 1 & 2 billion. People & goods moved about by horse drawn carriages, canals, and primitive railroads. Food seemed reasonably varied and abundant. Merchants sold oranges on the streets of London. Of course there was the whole upstairs/downstairs framework whereby the wealthy were sustained by the servant class. And society was then in the midst of of the industrial revolution. But I could see just stopping there and truncating the forward march of technology and its requisite energy consumption. Art, music, and science were never more dynamic and accessible to common people. It is a long descent from where we are today but a definite improvement over “medieval”.

      • routersurfer September 20, 2016 at 5:14 pm #

        That would be a nice goal. But t will take a bit before we will have anything as nice as an 1800’s life style. 250 to 400 million may be supported on this raped landscape. The bugs could win.

    • JimInFlorida September 19, 2016 at 4:16 pm #

      wpa, why, all of a sudden, are you sounding rational and thoughtful? This is not like you! I can completely relate to your self-adjustment towards a more organic and self-sustaining life.

  38. mdm1mdm1 September 19, 2016 at 12:46 pm #

    Cant Kunstler ever post anything other than the state of the economy and the fed? Its clear he is obsessed.

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:46 pm #

      mdm1mdm1

      you know it’s not Compulsory?

  39. Cold N. Holefield September 19, 2016 at 12:47 pm #

    wpa said: That is why I do not agree with Cold that the only two choices are to “Grow or Die”

    You’re disagreeing with a Strawman you erected in my stead. I said “the only two choices IT will permit.” If enough people followed your example, even if you are being truthful about your example which I don’t believe you are, IT would mitigate that threat to the Grow or Die ultimatum soon enough or usurp it to ITs own ends.

    • JimInFlorida September 20, 2016 at 12:51 pm #

      wpa always loads her replies with Strawmen. … I take that back, wpa will only use StrawPERSONS. We can’t even sexist now, can we???

  40. Cold N. Holefield September 19, 2016 at 12:50 pm #

    capt spaulding said: Just read a book called RISE OF THE ROBOTS by Martin Ford. Some of you may find it interesting.

    Thanks, Captain Oh My Captain. After I’m finished with The Internet Is Not The Answer I’ll read this latest suggestion.

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:56 pm #

      Cold

      I feel you. I haven’t opened my copy of The Internet Is Not The Answer, or any of the other dozen books I have waiting. Since embracing my duty here at cfn, i have put off so many things. I am normally a voracious reader, as you can discern from the breath of my knowledge and the eloquence of my pen.

      pen?

      • Cold N. Holefield September 19, 2016 at 6:23 pm #

        I’ve opened it and I’m half way through it. I absorb & assimilate the material slowly, allowing the ideas to percolate and ferment. It’s an excellent book with a wealth of information and an abundance of nutritious food for thought.

        • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 7:39 pm #

          nice

          when i read, i look to see where my ideas are in the book

          i skim the rest

  41. amb September 19, 2016 at 1:19 pm #

    wpa_ccc:

    We can’t escape The Generals and the military-industrial-congressional-complex that they are a component of. Domination, violence and warfare are in man’s DNA–man the animal, that is. History gives the full evidence of that.

    But the spirit, submerged and occluded behind man the animal, does not have these characteristics. The spirit has attributes such as: ethical, logical, tolerant, compassionate, cooperative, constructive, peaceful, etc. etc. etc. etc.

    Man as animal must have weaponry and warfare to dominate or protect himself from domination.

    A great American philosopher once said: “On the day when man can fully trust each other, there will be peace on earth.”

    Insanity, violence, domination, war, etc. are the activities of man the animal. They can’t be solved by government, politics, economics or any of the humanities.

    This is an issue of the spirit and the mind. Until man makes breakthroughs into these realms the above mentioned maladies of man and his “civilizations” will never be resolved.

    This is the real war. The spirit vs. man the animal.

    • wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 2:12 pm #

      “This is the real war. The spirit vs. man the animal.” –amb

      Yes. In Islam this is called “The Greater Jihad” which is a spiritual quest, as opposed to the “Lesser Jihad” which consists of blowing shit up.

      Anybody can destroy, as ill-educated jarheads from fly-over country have amply demonstrated… as low-life “jihadists” from war-torn countries have demonstrated. Both groups are wasting their lives and dying in vain.

      It takes more intelligence to create and build a peaceful, life-oriented, and sustainable society where the dollar is simply a means of exchange, not an almighty idol, not a way to keep score to know who is “winning.”

      But contraction is being done consciously by pockets of cooperative- oriented people all over the USA who do not worship the dollar.

      Tune in. Drop out. Go Local.

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:48 pm #

      “On the day when man can fully trust each other, there will be peace on earth.”

      that’s easy

      we are all One

      • JimInFlorida September 20, 2016 at 12:55 pm #

        Until such trust can be established, we must have guardians of some kind to keep the peace.

        The growing chaos we have been experiencing for the past 50+ years is precisely because those racist, sexist, homophobic, and xenophobic guardians were removed!

        • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 3:27 pm #

          We are our own guardians

          i think you know that

          • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 11:02 am #

            Tell that to the Christians after the Russian Revolution and Maoist China who lost their guardians! Tell that to the Armenians who were massacred by crypto-Jews in Turkey.

            “Guardians” are political entities that have access to State power and that power exists to protect the rightful inhabitants of a land. Those inhabitants being the founding peoples of the body-politic and who have been sanctioned by History to exist and have primacy within national borders.

            ZOG Amerika is an abandoned field; with the fences torn down. Weeds, varmints, and other pests prevail yet, we are forbidden to distinguish between them and the desirable produce of the land.

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 8:06 am #

            you know, JimHatesFlorida

            …i didn’t realize, until now, that JimHatesAmerica?

  42. FincaInTheMountains September 19, 2016 at 1:30 pm #

    Obama continues to campaign for Hillary by playing a village idiot

    Saturday, September 17 2016 undoubtedly will go down in history as the day of one of the greatest crises in US history, when US air raid on the position of the Syrian army in the area of Deir ez-Zor in eastern Syria, the results of which immediately was taken advantage of by the terrorists of the Islamic State (DAESH) as if they were warned about the inevitability of this “error”, finally openly presented US as an Islamist’s ally in Syria.

    The words of Hillary Clinton that the first step towards the destruction of the Islamic State should be the defeat of the Syrian government of Bashar al-Assad, have ceased to be just a bullshit, and became roaring words of Shaitan (Devil in Islam), who intended to destroy the humanity.

    And President Obama met this event, fulfilling his solemn duties of a clown-agitator for the election campaign of aforementioned Hillary Clinton, and this time he was carrying such nonsense, to which also joined his wife, that the other explanation of this drivel, in addition to deliberate sabotage the aforementioned election campaign, is impossible to come up with.

    In particular, he reacted to the recognition of the authenticity by Donald Trump of his birth certificate, stating to the Assembly of the Black Congressman, that this problem has overshadowed the possibility of a nuclear exchange with North Korea. He then compared this fact with news that the Earth is round.

    Further, Obama’s speech was devoted to the manipulation of the electoral process, a result of which millions of voters were not able to register and vote in the primaries, and here he turned on his oratorical abilities, obviously counting on the fact that the public does not remember exactly what party has achieved outstanding success in this field in 2016.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKbY9wONBeI

  43. PeteAtomic September 19, 2016 at 1:36 pm #

    As long as the new US bank stadium in Mpls survives so I can drive down and see my Vikes win ( or usually lose bad), then I don’t give a shit what happens, Mr.Jim.

    That place is totally amazing.

  44. wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 2:30 pm #

    I said “the only two choices IT will permit.” –Cold

    Yes. That is your paranoia. I do not believe in IT. So I went ahead and took charge of my life without asking permission and IT could not stop me. You appear to be stopped already by your belief in IT, since you believe IT will only permit “Grow or Die” … so sad.

    Slowly, then all at once, my way of cooperative community action does not depend on government handouts, or corporate charity, or urban planning visionaries, or on your hallucinatory “IT.”

    http://www.mkgandhi.org/articles/satyagraha_sarvodaya.html

    Will it scale? Try it and see.

    • JimInFlorida September 20, 2016 at 1:08 pm #

      The cooperative world of your article URL is all well and good BUT, who will guarantee its safety from social and political predators?

      The social order of Satyagraha and Sarvodaya can only exist until some external malevolent force decides to help itself to the fruits or destroy it for whatever reason it see fit. It can also be undermined from within by quislings and wolves in Vedic clothing.

      Either the Sheep choose how IT will rule over them or, they raise up rams, with big horns and courageous hearts, to fight back. And no, a Real Ram will NOT use non-violent protest or try to “love” the predators into leaving the flock alone!

  45. wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

    Slowly, then all at once, the economy is back. Home-builder confidence rose in September, equaling its highest reading in a decade. The National Association of Home Builders’ index jumped six points to 65 in September.

    • CancelMyCard September 19, 2016 at 5:33 pm #

      wpa_ccc:

      MillionDollarBonus?

      Is that you?

      Trolling up yet another site?

  46. Cold N. Holefield September 19, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

    wpa, you are IT. You’re here To Serve Man. From Dust to Dessert.

    • wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 4:39 pm #

      wpa, you are IT. –Cold

      Cold, I have never worked in IT. I have never worked for the federal government. They work for me. The rough men sleep in their beds and keep me safe. LOL! “They” have a thick file on me.

      Still, slowly, then all at once, I took charge… and then slowly, then all at once, independence from the matrix. Turned out there was escape, even without economic resources.

      Just join with your neighbors and embrace “we” instead of “me.” Community/ cooperation/ communism work. Unlike capitalism they don’t require an infusion of taxpayer money.

      Without a whole host of government rules, capitalism could not exist. Even regulations and social programs help sustain a market economy by fixing many of its serious social and economic problems.

      Government rules make markets and capitalism possible: limited liability laws, property rights, law and order (army and police), bankruptcy protection, a stable money supply, patents, copyrights, banking regulation, banking insurance, corporate charters, commercial transaction laws, etc. Nearly every proponent of capitalism supports some level of government influence in the economy.

      A market economy does not exist separate from government… it is very much a product of government rules and regulations.

      • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:49 pm #

        “A market economy does not exist separate from government… it is very much a product of government rules and regulations.”

        That There explains our entire situation.

        is cfn over and out?

  47. RocketDoc September 19, 2016 at 4:51 pm #

    Every church has its own choir. Looks like the same 50 people show up here every week. This is not a movement. I joined the doomer parade in 2007 and it is one lonely march. Everyone asks–“why are you so negative?”. I do not know– my family is fine and headed to glory without me. I cannot go ANYWHERE without being struck by how much money is coursing through the veins of the status quo. The only reason I want to be right is to prove I’m not crazy. That in itself is crazy….

    • dannyboy September 19, 2016 at 4:58 pm #

      “The only reason I want to be right is to prove I’m not crazy.”

      lots of company here (me excluded)

      also, can we broaden that “Church” metaphor?

  48. wholy1 September 19, 2016 at 4:58 pm #

    Slowly, then all at once – Is this about the male sexual experience, the “Quickening”, or something else?
    “They have the ability to amplify each other’s disorders.” – Ezra Pound would be impressed, I suspect.
    How about: “People” (tongue in cheek), without power, water, food for 3+ days have the ability to “amplify” each other’s DISorders.
    If ya’ll do NOT want to be a part of “that”, suggest your get rural, inland, grouped and gunned ASAP.

    • messianicdruid September 19, 2016 at 8:10 pm #

      What goes around comes around, picking up speed [ and then all at once ] .

  49. routersurfer September 19, 2016 at 5:08 pm #

    Dear Mr. Kunstler your last line chilled my blood. I fear you are right. Problem is the bright boys with Stars on each side are even more pro growth and Big Biz than the beast with two names; DCN/RNC.

    Should the DNC/RNC still breath? Well, it really died in 1972 and was replaced with a form of Industrial Feudalism. It will die with the end of growth.

    What comes next looks more like the slave block or nuclear winter. The Generals will not go softly into the night.

    Thanks for a great ride! Hope we can all live to see the fall of modern industrial corporatism.

    Peace.

  50. malthuss September 19, 2016 at 5:51 pm #

    CONGO DANDIES

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27PnUuXR_A

    • malthuss September 19, 2016 at 5:51 pm #

      That is for Janos.

    • JimInFlorida September 23, 2016 at 5:27 pm #

      I watched it. Fulfills the phrase, “N****r Rich.”

      Think of all the home improvements that could be done instead of wasting it on dandy’s clothing. One of those high priced outfits would have bought paint, carpet, furniture, and other niceties for the home.

      The one who inherited his Dad’s brick-making business could have made it bigger and better. But no, he blew it all on the best Parisian clothes.

      I guess that racist to think of practical matters, though.

  51. Cold N. Holefield September 19, 2016 at 6:20 pm #

    wpa said: Still, slowly, then all at once, I took charge… and then slowly, then all at once, independence from the matrix. Turned out there was escape, even without economic resources.

    Considering your posting frequency & pattern at this venue, you certainly did take charge. You have permanently tethered yourself to this comments section. Look at you — you don’t have a blog of your own to share your independent creativity with all the World. Instead, you have chosen JHK as your permanent ordained charity case for your bountiful & limitless Beneficence. It’s so sad you don’t have an Intellectual Home of your own.

    • wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 9:38 pm #

      Intellect? Don’t have time now, Cold. In Monday night football, Philadelphia is losing to Chicago (7-6) with two minutes until half time.

  52. beantownbill. September 19, 2016 at 8:04 pm #

    Stop commenting on race, religion, IQ, and political personalities, and start talking about real solutions for the crux of our problems – resource overshoot. Here are topics worthy of discussion:

    Production of more energy – thorium reactors, solar power satellites, more usage of coal, synthetic fossil fuels, a new generation of batteries for energy storage, nuclear fusion reactors. Maybe some of these aren’t practical at this moment, but if future energy needs are a problem, why not focus our energy, so to speak, on trying to resolve the issues with them? Is spending $5 trillion on unnecessary wars a better use of our physical, mental and financial power?

    • wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 9:49 pm #

      Beantown Bill, while I normally agree with you I have a quibble about your list for energy production. While the problem is resource overshoot, the solution is not to produce more energy, continue to procreate, continue to deplete minerals and other natural resources (because we would have the energy to do so), and end up living on top of one another.

      Besides, any further use of oil and gas and emission fossil fuels is only going to destroy our chances for survival. It is no coincidence that the worst climate disasters on record (Hurricane Katrina, Arctic melting, Louisiana floods, etc.) have happened this century.

      The solution to resource overshoot is addressing climate change through population reduction and energy contraction through the use of solely renewable sustainable zero emission fuel sources (i.e., LEAVE THE OIL AND GAS IN THE GROUND).

      • beantownbill. September 20, 2016 at 12:24 am #

        We can’t agree all the time. Anyway, as far as oil and gas are concerned, plenty of alternatives exist. Using these alternatives would stop CO-caused global warming, although because of thermodynamics we would ultimately need a heat-removal remedy. But we can resolve that issue, too. We just need the right focus.

        Personally, I don’t think we can stop humans from procreating without serious government interference into our lives. I don’t want government peeking into our bedrooms, but maybe that might end up being necessary. Otherwise, nature will take care of our excess population herself, and probably wouldn’t be too considerate doing it.

  53. BackRowHeckler September 19, 2016 at 9:20 pm #

    ‘Enter the Generals’ — JHK

    trouble is, Jim, the only Generals left are of the PC variety, you know, worried about Tranny latrines in the barracks, getting the ladies into Marine Infantry Regiments, and making sure nobody looks askance at the openly gay soldier boy in the rack next to yours.

    these Generals know which side their bread is buttered on.

    all the rest have been fired. In today’s armed forces Patton wouldn’t make corporal, and Curtis ‘Bombs Away’ Lemay would be doing KP back in the galley.

    brh

    • wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 9:56 pm #

      Curtis should have been tried and imprisoned for crimes against humanity, particularly for violating national sovereignty (borders are supposed to mean something to you) of Cambodia and Laos. The US never declared war formally against Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos. “Bombing them back to the Stone Age” is a war crime, not a military strategy.

      • BackRowHeckler September 19, 2016 at 10:04 pm #

        very few wars are ‘Declared Formally’.

        Most of them — the Barbary Wars, Indian Wars, Civil War, Banana Wars in C. America and the Carib., Philippine Insurrection, Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya … are initiated by executive action. Declarations of War are the exception, not the rule.

        brh

      • wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 10:19 pm #

        “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

        This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.”

        –President Dwight D. Eisenhower

  54. Pucker September 19, 2016 at 10:52 pm #

    The bo,,,,m..Bing suspect ran a fried chicken joint called “First American Fried Chicken”, which received rave reviews.

    “Aziz Rahami
    9 months ago
    great place to eat family owned and has the best service friendly people too it food is halal and delicious.”

    • wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 10:58 pm #

      As an Amer..,,ican cit,,,..i…zen, he has consti..,,tu.,.tional rights.

    • Pucker September 19, 2016 at 11:18 pm #

      I wonder if Aziz Rahami is related to Ahmad, apart from their mutual enjoyment of Finger-Lick’n-Good American fried chicken?

      “Prosecutors in Union County, N.J., say Ahmad Khan Rahami has been charged with five counts of attempted murder of a law enforcement officer, along with two weapons crimes. His bail has been set at $5.2 million. The charges relate to a shootout during his arrest.”

  55. wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 10:53 pm #

    Better hope you are never arrested as a “suspect” when Trump becomes president. You may never be heard from again. Trump doesn’t think “suspects” should have constitutional rights. Trump’s objection to granting Rahami, a U.S. citizen, his constitutional right to due process, which is guaranteed under the Fifth Amendment, is in keeping with other comments Trump has made about national security and individual rights.

    Still, it was chilling to hear Trump scoff at a fundamental American value. He seemed to be saying that criminal suspects should not receive emergency medical care or legal representation.

    Trump Complains That Bombing Suspect Will Get Medical Care, Due Process
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-bombing-suspect-medical-care_us_57e051fee4b08cb140977816

    • BackRowHeckler September 19, 2016 at 11:05 pm #

      Get medical care? Bradley Manning is getting a free sex change operation, the works!, courtesy of the US Bureau of Prisons

      Meanwhile, the VA is sucking wind, and vets can’t get sh-t.

      brh

  56. BackRowHeckler September 19, 2016 at 10:55 pm #

    Terror? What terror? Nothing to see here. Your job is to tune in NFL Monday Night Football, crack open a Bud Lite, and scarf up some Nachos. Look, there’s a multi millionaire quarterback taking a knee during the National Anthem, rubbing your nose in everything you believe in. No matter. Hey, shush up, the beer commercial is coming on, the funny one with talking dogs, the stupid clueless white guy, and the wise Latina (or wise Asian, or wise Black guy, you get the picture) Anyway, the main thing we have to watch out for now is backlash against Muslims by a bigoted American Majority. Remember, it is your patriotic duty to report to DHS any citizen you hear slandering the Prophet Muhammed, speaking against Islam, or looks sideways at the Burkha wearing women at the local mall.

    brh

    • wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 11:01 pm #

      Philadelphia wins… that is what is important. There is no long emergency. The only emergency we have is related to overpopulation and climate change, which The Donald tells us is a hoax.

      Climate change? What climate change? Nothing to see here… just bleeding heart liberals who always need to be whining about something.

    • Elrond Hubbard September 20, 2016 at 4:03 pm #

      Colin Kaepernick is making a much better use of his privileged position as an obscenely overpaid athlete than if he just sat back and collected his winnings.

      Don’t ask me, ask a former Navy SEAL:

      http://www.businessinsider.com/jesse-ventura-i-salute-colin-kaepernick-2016-9

  57. wpa_ccc September 19, 2016 at 11:13 pm #

    TRUMP IS THE LOSER

    2016 General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

    46% Hillary Clinton

    42% Donald Trump

    Currently tracking 284 polls from 38 pollsters, updated 1 hour ago.

  58. Pucker September 20, 2016 at 12:30 am #

    According to the book “Generation Me”, the Millennials have been brainwashed by a cult of Self-Esteem into believing that they are “Special”, and, therefore “Entitled” to live their dreams, which typically means entitlement to a high paying job, and lots of material “stuff”. Hard work is not necessary in the Cult of Self-Esteem. Surveys show that American blacks have the highest Self-Esteem; Asians have the lowest Self-Esteem.

    The Millennials are not mentally prepared for the End of Growth.

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 7:32 am #

      book got a self-esteem Quiz?

      i’d love that

  59. Pucker September 20, 2016 at 12:44 am #

    There seems to be in inverse relationship between Self-Esteem and conformity. Thus, society’s emphasis on the Cult of Self-Esteem may militate against a common culture?

    • messianicdruid September 20, 2016 at 9:14 am #

      Angels want to be men,
      men want to be angels,
      children want to be adults,
      adults want to be children,
      women want to be men,
      men want to be women,
      and they all want to be gods.

      g-o-d = one who makes rules = DECIDES right and wrong

      • wpa_ccc September 20, 2016 at 11:08 am #

        “g-o-d = one who makes rules = DECIDES right and wrong” –MD

        =====================

        I have a different version of g-o-d. It is a code word. I will decipher it for you:

        G = That

        O = Which

        D = Is

        =====================

        I AM…

        wpa-ccc
        Green Valley, AZ
        prepared for eternity

        • messianicdruid September 20, 2016 at 12:59 pm #

          “You shall have no other gods before Me.”

          Everyone deciding right and wrong for themselves, or for others if in a leadership position, is the reason for the chaos.

          This leads to war: to determine who’s rules shall prevail.

          The mirror god is not to be trusted.

  60. Pucker September 20, 2016 at 12:58 am #

    I read an article several months ago about Millennial girls in the UK who are tricking to pay their university tuition.

    Dumpster Diving is also becoming more commonplace for Millennials, but don’t pick up that discarded pre,,sure co,,oker with protruding wires in the bottom of the dumpster!

  61. Pucker September 20, 2016 at 1:00 am #

    I read that several of the bo,,,Mbs were inadvertently diffused by Dumpster Divers looking for food in trash cans who disconnected the wires. Is that true?

    • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 2:53 am #

      If so, those b,mS deserve medals.

      • malthuss September 20, 2016 at 10:37 am #

        did you look at ‘Congo Dandies?’

        • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

          Just the first minute. I hate these Poverty Pimps, and just want to him them with my danda. And all the Blacks cheering him on like he was some kind of hero – just the kind of people who would kick a cat for Christ.

    • Pucker September 20, 2016 at 3:53 am #

      A Wall Street banker’s kid may have been saved by a deranged homeless bloke looking for discarded food in a New York City garbage can?

      • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 7:33 am #

        our lives are all connected

        • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 3:55 pm #

          Until you find that piece of paper, we’re all going to suffer. Now it’s blowing towards a sewer grate. Pennywise is below, waiting to grab it. You better hurry up…

          • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 4:24 pm #

            get straight

            before it’s too late

  62. Pucker September 20, 2016 at 2:52 am #

    I wonder how Huma Abedin got a Security Clearance?

    “On May 15, 2013, Politico broke the story that longtime Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin spent her final months at the State Department working as a “special government employee” in a part-time consultancy, beginning during her pregnancy in the summer of 2012, while she worked a second job as a part-time consultant to Teneo. 30 The New York Post, in September 2013, reported Abedin was being paid $355,000 as a consultant to Teneo, while receiving $135,000 in government pay as a part-time consultant for Hillary. 31 The Washington Post revealed in August 2015, that Abedin actually held four different jobs simultaneously, being paid also by the Clinton Foundation, where she was a contractor preparing for Hillary’s eventual transition from the State Department to the charity.”

    “Abedin, who has worked since the 1990s as one of Hillary Clinton’s top aides, is the wife of disgraced former congressman Anthony Weiner, who was forced to leave the House of Representatives over his extramarital sex texting. Abedin also has connections to the Muslim Brotherhood, having served for a dozen years as an assistant editor for the Journal of Muslim Monthly Affairs for the Institute for Muslim Minority Affairs, founded by her late father and currently directed by her mother. The Institute for Muslim Minority Affairs is backed by the Muslim World League, an Islamic organization in the Saudi holy city of Mecca that was founded by Muslim Brotherhood leaders in the Middle East. 33”

    “Partners in Crime”, Jerome Corsi

  63. OfftheGrid September 20, 2016 at 3:09 am #

    I can live with growing your own food, living locally, barter and a lot of the other things you predict but the thought of having to endure amateur plays, concerts, sing-alongs, and puppet shows is too much Just kill me now, it would be kinder to simply end my misery.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 4:10 pm #

      One time at a bus stop, a fanatical young woman started loading on old pieces of wood and all kind of crap she had picked up. The Black Bus driver said that her cargo was “doubtful” The young woman said by way of explanation “It’s for puppets”. The Black Bus driver tried to object, but the young White woman had steam coming out of her ears and was rolling her eyes. I was impressed: usually Blacks win such conflicts, but not this time, with this young Puritan heir of Cromwell.

      Once her load was loaded, she started preaching to the downtrodden red stater passengers about the Puppets and the Permacultural Festival they were being built for. Needless to say, complete incomprehension except for me, who was planning to attend. I looked for her at the Festival but didn’t see her. Most of the local Puritans are wiser and just ignore the Red State natives even as the Puritan invaders did the Catholics of Northern Ireland long ago. But the more ardent have dreams of converting them: one broadsheet stated it was good they didn’t own their own homes and were therefore more mobile or some such crap. The locals are several major psychological stages below being interested in permaculture. Obviously they need to own their own land before they can garden. And garden before they can become interested in more advanced types of gardening, or have any real stake in their neighborhood to begin with.

  64. BackRowHeckler September 20, 2016 at 3:55 am #

    ‘Slowly, then all at once’

    That’s a Hemingway line, from ‘The Sun Also Rises’, I believe.

    (describing how one of his characters went broke)

    brh

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 7:34 am #

      Hemingway was not a money man

  65. Cold N. Holefield September 20, 2016 at 6:48 am #

    My only complaint is that The Lamestream Media doesn’t give enough attention to “Terrorist” Events. It’s too busy covering the growing disparity between the wealthy & the poor and environmental issues to devote proper focus & scrutiny to Terrorism. Can we start a petition to persuade The Lamestream Media to change its ways? WE WANT MORE TERRORISM COVERAGE AND PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CYCLES THAT NEVER END AND MORE COMMERCIALS FOR DRUGS TO AMELIORATE THE SYMPTOMS OF DISEASES WE DIDN”T EVEN KNOW EXISTED!!!!

    Your quiz question for the day is:

    Who was the First American?

    Yey Eagles!! Carson Wentz is the Real Deal.

    Yey Bama!! Jalen Hurts looks promising, but he has a long way too go.

    Spieth’s a Flop. His career won’t even be as successful as Mickelson’s even let alone Tiger’s, but he will be worth a lot more — than Mickelson, at least. Much like the “entrepreneurs” of Silicon Valley versus the tangibility of Carnegie, Rockefeller, Ford & Edison. Overvalued Fluff. Holograms of Hyped Potential ultimately Unrealized.

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 7:36 am #

      the Indigenous

      that’s all i got

    • FincaInTheMountains September 20, 2016 at 10:14 am #

      Terror comes to the aid of the media

      Lately, every time in the United States or the world a really major event takes place and the media do not know what to say, in the US there is an act of terrorism, and the media on Sunday discuss the attack, not an event that really needs to be discussed.

      http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/signs-of-desperation/#comment-279269

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 7:48 pm #

      “My only complaint is that The Lamestream Media doesn’t give enough attention to “Terrorist” Events. ” – Cold N. Holefield

      my fav coverage:

      “CHELSEA & HELL’S KITCHEN Crime & Mayhem
      Thieves Helped Crack Chelsea Bombing Case, Sources Say

      NY Thieves – just as and sometimes more efficient than the CIA, FBI, NYPD and TSA to thwart terrorist plots…who’d have thought?”

  66. FincaInTheMountains September 20, 2016 at 11:03 am #

    Clint Eastwood’s movie “Miracle on the Hudson” is on the Russian screens. Classic American cinema once again brought to the world Eastwood’s trademark realism: old body Eastwood protects and defends his own faith in people. And each time, he’s making high-quality evidence base.

    On a cold January day in 2009 US Airways plane took off from New York’s “La Guardia” airport to Charlotte, North Carolina. The ship had not even climb a thousand meters, where it cuts a flock of Canadian geese. Collision with birds hopelessly disables both engines. Inevitably, in the minds of each of us – and especially any American – there flashes a terrible nightmare: a plane crashes into a skyscraper.

    Just a few seconds to make a decision for Commander Sully (Tom Hanks) and the co-pilot Skiles (Aaron Eckhart). The two nearest airports are ready to accept a damaged airplane with 155 passengers on board. However, Sally takes an ambiguous – rather intuitive – and the only right decision: to land Airbus on the Hudson River. A little more than 400 seconds after take-off to an emergency landing on water – an eternity in which lies a salvation of a hundred passengers and raced with the speed of light the life of the pilot.

    Eastwood almost frame by frame restored events of seven years ago, the situation in the cockpit and cabin, in the flight control room, and then in the halls of the proceedings of a special commission of the Department of Transportation. And, in spite of the obviously well-known result, suspense firmly keeps the audience until the credits.

    Unvarnished shown even social ascension of Sully to a pedestal of a savior: ridiculous television shows, comic and sincere embrace of strangers, rude guys in a random bar, offering a new drink cocktail “Sully.”

    In contrast to people’s love behind the closed doors the national hero examines some kind of anti-human commission. Numerous tests on simulators, technical expertise of broken engines – evidence that the commander subjected the people to risk. If in the cabin sat a man-robot, he would quickly calculated the possible options in numbers and probabilities and instantly would’ve taken the only right decision. The decision, contrary to what Sully took.

    And thank God, that it was just an imperfect human being with the right to make a mistake at the controls of an airliner in New York. But at the same time with perfect exposure and knowledge of the aircraft technical nuances, professional flair and most importantly – the courage. With ability to act – that’s what separates man from machine and dry instructions.

    Acting outside the logic, numbers and accurate calculations

    • wpa_ccc September 20, 2016 at 11:12 am #

      “Just a few seconds to make a decision for Commander Sully…” –finca

      Sully is a member of the pilots union. The flight attendants are members of their union. Unions provided training to Sully and the flight attendants that made everything go smoothly. Workers’ unions should be strengthened and expanded.

      • JimInFlorida September 20, 2016 at 4:47 pm #

        Perhaps, every third or fourth episode of CFN, you actually say something I agree with. Labor Unions and prosperity have a strong connection.

        It’s interesting that you pay disingenuous lip service to Labor Unions but, also support the destruction of the domestic labor market by celebrating the invasion of unskilled persons from the 3rd World.

        Our Local has hard working and skilled Men (both White and Black) in it. Not one of us would accept your insane promotion of letting the 3rd World flush its toilet on our America. It was OURS before YOUR KIND so blithely opened the doors and invited these people in; over our objections.

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 1:32 pm #

      should have provided a “Spoiler Alert”

  67. RocketDoc September 20, 2016 at 11:21 am #

    Certainly. Broadly speaking a church is a community of believers. The commonality of belief in poor decisions by elites and leaders brings us together weekly to share in those beliefs but not necessarily to do anything. A common problem in churches. We listen to the sermon but don’t go out seeking to “love our enemies”….

    My lament is that in being “cautionary” about our current unsustainable activities, I am labelled negative which precludes a comfortable evangelism. Why turn down the thermostat when you can pay the bill? Why not buy the new car if you can make the payments? What to tell a senior in business school looking for a job or internship in ‘finance’? I smile and say Good luck–he doesn’t want to hear about organic gardening…. The young may lose their opportunities while us old folks will lose our savings. Kind of a Grimm tale. I wonder why I “like” it?

  68. wpa_ccc September 20, 2016 at 11:25 am #

    Another unarmed Black man, cooperating with police is shot dead by the police. Video shows that Crutcher had his hands in the air, contradicting Tulsa police’s earlier claim that Crutcher had refused to keep his hands up. He did not have a weapon on him at the time.

    The U.S. Department of Justice is investigating the shooting.

    “I will just make this promise to you: We will achieve justice in this case,” Tulsa police Chief Chuck Jordan said Monday. “I want to assure our community and I want to assure all of you and people across the nation who are going to be looking at this: We will achieve justice ? period.”

    The only justice possible would be a first degree murder conviction and a life sentence for the officers involved… for cold-blooded murder of an(other) innocent unarmed Black man. But there is no justice when it comes to whites murdering unarmed Blacks who are non-belligerent and are cooperating with the police.

    They had three ground cameras and a helicopter camera. None show the Black man doing anything except obey the officers’ commands. Then they shot him.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/terence-crutcher-shooting-tulsa-oklahoma_us_57e0411fe4b0071a6e08db5f

    • elysianfield September 20, 2016 at 6:42 pm #

      Wpac,
      Permit me to relate a “war story….”

      My partner and I were working the 7pm-3am shift (high crime rate hours), In deepest East Oakland, when a call came out regarding a group of armed robbers. A description of the van they were using was broadcast, and a unit had located the van, unoccupied, in a residential area. The unit “sat on the van”, until suspects were seen entering and driving away. The Unit followed at a distance and called for reinforcements. Further information was broadcast, possibly from an informer, that the occupants(three or more) in the van were armed, and had made comments that they would not be taken alive. We were in perfect position, and, on a deserted residential street, blocked the vans forward progress with our vehicle and bailed out, weapons drawn. My partner raced to the driver’s window and told the driver to raise his hands…the driver immediately dropped his hands below the window and out of view of my partner.

      What would Wpac do?

      • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 8:20 pm #

        But cops also shoot zombified and/or retarded people who are shuffling around with a knife. Maybe they try a taser from maximum distance. It doesn’t work so they kill people. Cops should have a shield and a long riot baton in every car. Such people can be subdued, one cop in front and one behind. Hit him with the batons until he drops the knife or is incapacitated.

        • elysianfield September 20, 2016 at 10:59 pm #

          Janos,
          A similar incident that you describe. Called to a “transient hotel”…cheap flop house. Man in his room was screaming incoherently, waving a large kitchen knife…The first officer in the room grabbed the single-wide mattress off the bed, and, using it as a shield, we rushed the poor bastard…subdued him, hooked him up, and sent him in for evaluation.

          Problem with a large, long baton is that you have to have it with you when needed, and this is not always predictable. If you cannot hang it on a gun belt, it will be left in the vehicle. Same thing with a shield…useless while in the trunk. These are practical considerations that people in the business would not see as evident. The standard 3′ riot baton is often carried, and a ring on the gun belt is there for that purpose.

          I really do not understand the mindset of law enforcement today…we would occasionally draw our weapons as a tool of intimidation, and if the suspect was not properly cowed, we would usually have to hit him with it (we are talking about felony arrests, and you have the goddamned thing in your hand…difficult to holster, etc) …on-duty shootings were very rare…most guys in Oakland never fired their weapons on duty, even over a 20 year career.

          I saw videos of the Tulsa shooting, and I have no fucking idea what was in the heads of those on the scene.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 21, 2016 at 12:28 am #

            I’m not trying to be difficult, but I just don’t see the problem. You get called because some weirdo is swinging a knife around. You have the shields and batons in the trunk. You get there and take them out or you take them out before you go.

            We had a case here a few days ago. They tried tasing him. Nothing. Maybe jackets get in the way? No bean bag guns – another option. Because? Because not all patrol cars are supplied with them. Well duh, why not?

            He wasn’t threatening people per se just asking to be killed while pointing the knife at his chest. He moved towards them and they complied. Obviously this case might have been more challenging if they wanted to keep him from killing himself. But as always, their safety is the top priority – that is how they are trained now. Which I just can’t agree with. They get paid good money to take some risk. That’s the job.

        • elysianfield September 21, 2016 at 4:45 pm #

          Janos,
          No problem. If the calls were that detailed, it would be simple to up-armor. However, most calls would be of a nature that “Someone is yelling in the next apartment”…a disturbance, or an on-view situation that starts innocently enough, but later turns acrimonious. Also, especially in the Ghetto, walking around with a shield and some sort of pike would draw the attention of the locals, usually to the detriment of the situation.

          Again, the rule is; if it isn’t part of the uniform, ifyou cannot wear it, you probably won’t have it with you.

  69. Cold N. Holefield September 20, 2016 at 11:53 am #

    It’s clear to me that many Police Officers these days are being trained improperly in the use of Deadly Force. I have yet to see a News Program covering this angle. Why? It’s at the Root of the Matter, and yet, it’s hardly recognized let alone discussed. Instead, seemingly errant Police Shootings are being used to stoke a Race War. I think Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon and all the rest including the Fox News Blond Bimbo Tarts need to be banished to The Island with all politicians past & present still living as well as all The Generals and The Colonels and every Alphabet Agency employee past & present still living. Then, and only then, can we start evolving.

    • Cold N. Holefield September 20, 2016 at 12:08 pm #

      If I had to guess from looking at the video & listening to how it all transpired, the “Big Bad Dude” may have been mentally ill and believed his vehicle was going to blow up if he and/or The Police didn’t prevent it. The Police, all wound up from the recent shootings of Police and the non-stop Terrorist Coverage by The Lamestream Media, are Trigger Nervous and ready to pull at a Moment’s Notice. That, coupled with improper training, makes for The Perfect Storm and provocateurs of every stripe swoop in to exploit it for their own nefarious political purposes. That’s sad, wpa, not my recognition of the IT that smiles upon all of it with a Cheshire Grin of Contentment.

      FYI, when I say improper training I don’t mean they weren’t trained. They more than likely have had plenty of training, but that training is obviously improper training. But hey, it’s The Gubmint and change doesn’t come easily or quickly, so I suspect there will be a lot more Police Shooting Coverage to come. Anderson & Don & Erin & Wolf call it Job Security.

      • Elrond Hubbard September 22, 2016 at 3:49 pm #

        It’s not improper training so much as it is training designed to protect the police against the public, when it’s the public that they should be protecting. Just last week, a cop in West Virginia got fired because he didn’t shoot someone:

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/09/12/west-virginia-cop-fired-for-not-killing-a-man-with-an-unloaded-gun/

        The fired cop, Stephen Mader, applied the training he received as a U.S. Marine in Afghanistan that told him to look at the “whole person”, but his bosses concluded that he had “failed to eliminate a threat”. In other words the police in Weirton, W.Va. think their city is more dangerous than an active war zone. That’s just bloody preposterous, on top of the fact that that way of thinking makes them an active menace to the populace. Whether it’s the way police are trained, an ingrained attitude of police culture or something behind door number three, it needs to change yesterday

  70. volodya September 20, 2016 at 12:11 pm #

    So, again the newspapers are reporting that Sidney Blumenthal, Hillary’s closest confidante and friend, was spreading doubt about Obama’s birthplace.

    If history is any guide, what will come out of the Clinton campaign office are stout denials, distortions and lies followed by declarations that Obama’s birthplace is a settled issue, the primary campaign of 2008 was a long time ago and the American people just want to move on. Well, ok, except that Hillary’s closest confidant was spreading shit about Obama’s birthplace.

    So what did Hillary know and when did she know it?

    Just a tetch hypocritical to be deploring Trump about birtherism when Hillary’s hatchetman was neck deep in the same swamp, don’t you think?

    • messianicdruid September 20, 2016 at 2:55 pm #

      Being born on United States soil is not a requirement to be the CEO of a corporation.

      • JimInFlorida September 20, 2016 at 4:56 pm #

        Because the, “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC.” is most certainly a Corporation, albeit, semi-private, it can and does treat the U.S. Constitution as a mere bylaw. A structural guideline that can be referred to but, not obeyed.

        The POTUS is functionally a CEO of a Corporation. It was the stolen election and rigged reelection of GW Bush that was the wake-up call to We Teh Sheep that our Federal Government ceased being our Government over a century ago. It now openly operates as an Occupation Force in the guise of a “Government.”

        Obama’s illegitimate “citizenship” set the stage to let us know that a foreigner could be installed over us. The fact that one or two more foreign-born POTUS candidates ran also confirmed the future agenda by TPTB.

  71. wpa_ccc September 20, 2016 at 12:15 pm #

    “It’s clear to me that many Police Officers these days are being trained improperly in the use of Deadly Force.” –Cold

    It’s clear to me that many Police Officers believe they have a license to kill unarmed Black people. The list is long and growing of dead Black people. The list is short of officers convicted of wrongdoing. As long as there is no punishment, as long as police get away with lying, the killings will continue.

    Are you wondering about the number of police officers who were convicted on murder or manslaughter charges last year for fatally shooting a civilian in the line of duty? In 2015, that number was zero.

    And that’s not unusual. No officers were convicted on such charges in 2014 either.

    Let’s hope in 2016, with our new Attorney General Loretta Lynch, police will be punished for their murderous behavior.

    • Elrond Hubbard September 22, 2016 at 3:57 pm #

      To generalize broadly, there are two kinds of police forces: those that protect the public, and those that protect against the public. Americans have become very, very fearful in recent decades and their police forces have led the charge — so much so that even white people are beginning to notice how much their police forces have come to resemble the second type.

      It’s the advent of ubiquitous camera phones that has finally pulled back the curtain on this ugliness that has been there all along. This comes as no surprise to African Americans, of course, who have long been classified as a suspect population that needs to be policed and have borne the main brunt of police brutality until very recently. (JHK, sadly, is liable to blame the victims for the resulting “oppositional” aspects of black culture.)

  72. barbisbest September 20, 2016 at 1:31 pm #

    ” They can organize ten-acre farms instead of cell phone game app companies. They can do physical labor instead of watching television. They can build compact walkable towns instead of suburban wastelands (probably even out of the salvaged detritus of those wastelands). They can put on plays, concerts, sing-alongs, and puppet shows instead of Super Bowl halftime shows and Internet porn videos.”

    It’s funny you should write that this week. Seen on a bumper sticker this weekend, “the hippies were right.” Probably so! More communal living has drawbacks, too. Ah, but you are a national treasure! wanted to be it’s prose, and so it is…. Powerful words. Appreciated. And may I ask, what gender frequents internet porn sites more? What you wrote above would entail people actually caring, about the trajectory. Do you believe mankind, or womankind for that matter, would get there from here. Questionable. So, we may, as Cousteau says, “hit the block wall.”

    “Clinton literally personifies the horror of these coiled consequences waiting to spring — and the pretense that everything will continue to be okay with her in the White House (not).” Precisely, it ALREADY doesn’t matter who wins the election this fall! But, we may be questioned soon about what does.

    Just an aside, talked to a couple from Montreal this past few days. Canadians, they say, do not like Trump. A couple from Great Britain, they do not like Trump. And, what’s a map?. (G. P. S.) I go there now to check where Montreal is.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

      The World is as we dream it? No, it is as God dreams it. There is darkness the Hippies never dreamed of. As Aragorn said, one day’s march from here (or just down the block now), there are enemies that would freeze your mind and heart.

      http://www.dailystormer.com/new-trend-black-bastards-kicking-cats-posting-videos-online/

      So unless you are God, you better open your eyes and see what He is creating or allowing to be created – yes we are co-creators to some extent, gods with a small g, or gods in the making if we would but become conscious. Seeing is the first step. That and admitting we aren’t in charge.

      Not only are they kicking cats, they are posting it online – proud of their horrible selves. Can you imagine that? And what are you going to do with it? Deny them moral agency and put it on White Men? If so, you are Evil too.

  73. Cold N. Holefield September 20, 2016 at 1:33 pm #

    So long as America still has the Death Penalty, it should be used against Hackers, regardless of whether the Hackers are Government Employees or not. Otherwise, Life in Prison, or banishment to The Island. I’m convinced they’re in my Operating System and as such, they deserve the Death Penalty if caught and convicted by an impartial, objective jury of people who have been hacked

    End Hacking Now by ending Hackers Now.

    The Government’s Hacking Powers Are About to Grow Exponentially

    • wpa_ccc September 20, 2016 at 1:40 pm #

      Does The Island offer vegan cuisine?

      • Cold N. Holefield September 20, 2016 at 1:49 pm #

        If you grow it. The Island is whatever you & your colleagues make it so long as it never threatens Society. The only stipulation is, you can never have contact with Society ever again and there will be no aid or comfort if things go awry. You’re on your own — never to haunt, exploit, corrupt, coerce and terrorize Mankind again.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 2:18 pm #

      Hackers are saving the Country right now – or trying to. What a strange time to get angry at them. Do you hate Lord Snowden too?

  74. Cold N. Holefield September 20, 2016 at 1:46 pm #

    dannyboy said: should have provided a “Spoiler Alert”

    I can’t wait for Eastwood’s rendition of Andreas Lubitz & Germanwings Flight 9525. Clint has gotten far too political & ideological in his dotage and it has revealed itself in his movies. They’re largely Propaganda Pieces anymore.

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 2:12 pm #

      i know how it ends

      but i won’t spoil it for anybody

      considerate

      • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 2:24 pm #

        From Tales of the Hasidim: Every man should have two pieces of paper, one in each of his front pockets. On his right hip, the piece of paper says, “This World was created for me. I am the Center of of It, the Lord of all I perceive. On his left hip, the piece of paper says, “I am no one going nowhere. Just dust in the wind.” Only by consulting regularly with both pieces of paper can a man navigate through this life properly.

        Danny lost one of his papers. Can you guess which one?

        • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 3:08 pm #

          Danny bond is with BOTH the Impersonal and Personal God

          how’re you doin’?

          • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 3:49 pm #

            Danny Bond? Now you’re James Bond’s brother? You need to find that piece of paper. It’s probably blowing around Times Square. You lost it when you went to the Peeps.

          • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 4:30 pm #

            you can’t even conceive of bonding with God

            what’s peeps?

  75. Doug September 20, 2016 at 1:56 pm #

    We have a problem of clueless and/or corrupt elites because “government” has gotten far too large. I have nothing against over-educated but idiot elitists, but they shouldn’t be in position to harm the country. If we had a small government like what existed before WWII, then there wouldn’t be all the incompetents, sycophants and parasites that we see now hurting the country.

    Just think what a bunch of fools exist at the Federal Reserve. These people wouldn’t survive outside of government or academia. Same goes for Obama. That idiot hasn’t learned anything in 40 years! He absolutely refuses to budge from his petrified thinking while the rest of the intelligent world rolls their eyes at his idiocy.

    Unfortunately, even Trump has not been calling for a reduced size of government and Hillary is the very embodiment of criminality, corruption. She’s evil, a liar and has no ideas and no abilities except self-aggrandizement. She is Christina De Kirchner and the US is Argentina for comparison.

    I suspect that Trump will indeed come to the right idea of reducing the govt bureaucracy.

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

      “These people wouldn’t survive outside of government or academia. Same goes for Obama.”

      i beg to differ

      he’s here helping the UN get going

  76. capt spaulding September 20, 2016 at 2:04 pm #

    I see that Sen. Elizabeth Warren told the Wells Fargo CEO, John Stumpf, that he should be “criminally indicted” for the scheme involving thousands of phony bank accounts registered in people’s names. She also forced him to admit that no senior executives have been held accountable in the scheme, whereas 5,300 junior employees have been fired. America, ya gotta love it. Oligarchs rule.

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

      Captain, My Captain

      you must know that NONE of the 5,300 junior employees are empowered to fire ANY of those “senior executives”

      that doesn’t even make sense

    • wpa_ccc September 20, 2016 at 2:25 pm #

      I would prefer Elizabeth Warren, or Tulsi Gabbard, as first woman president.

      • elysianfield September 21, 2016 at 4:50 pm #

        Wpac,
        I would vote for Warren.

        Why haven’t you answered my “quiz”? It was an actual event…how would you respond? You are quick to call for prosecution, yet the example I gave was real life, with real life consequences…I ask you again,how would you respond?

    • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 2:49 pm #

      http://www.wvwnews.net/content/index.php?/news_story/hillary_clinton_campaign_systematically_overcharging_poorest_donors.html

      The Clinton Campaign may be involved in this, either by accident or by design.

  77. barbisbest September 20, 2016 at 2:30 pm #

    “The World is as we dream it? No, it is as God dreams it. There is darkness the Hippies never dreamed of. As Aragorn said, one day’s march from here (or just down the block now), there are enemies that would freeze your mind and heart.”

    And what of that. Fear. No. Only two things.

    Lest you be left without one, if you think miracles don’t happen, see the film “The 33” about the Chilean miners who were trapped. Knowing the outcome, one of the best films I ever saw. Those people should not have gotten out of there. They should not have! Namaste.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 2:47 pm #

      We all need a death song. Two Irish workers working underground in London were trapped in a cave in. The author relates that towards the end as the air became short, his companion, a very simple uncomplicated man, began to sing a long song of lament: as he listened, he could actually see the inland country where the man came from, it’s barrenness, the grinding poverty and despair yet also the joy of the people’s resilience. The man was recounting his life with the song, a summation to offer to God as his breath failed.

      Then sound and light as the rescuers broke in – thus the tale. In explanation, the man, now ordinary again, said, It’s good to have a song like that just in case.

      The Irish were willing to die for their songs. That’s how they won their freedom. But since the inner Party was Marxist, the freedom has been squandered in the worst possible way. Now the country’s being given to Nigerians.

      • malthuss September 20, 2016 at 4:22 pm #

        ((( ))) runs their Immigration system?

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 3:10 pm #

      “see the film “The 33” about the Chilean miners who were trapped. Knowing the outcome, one of the best films I ever saw. Those people should not have gotten out of there. They should not have!”

      doesn’t ANYBODY believe is Spoiler Alerts?

  78. barbisbest September 20, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

    So, who knows, maybe JHK’s vision will come to pass.

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 3:10 pm #

      anything’s possible

      just highly unlikely

  79. Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 3:04 pm #

    http://www.dailystormer.com/huffpo-admits-defeat-hillary-will-lose/

    Joy to you, Men of Myalba, joy to you. Joy to US! It’s time to begin to practice the Munchkin songs.

    It’s our Time now. We need Benders, Breakers, and Finishers. Know yourself and come forward into the Light.

    Benders are those who bend the light. Breakers those who break illusion. Finishers those who put the illusion to bed.

  80. wpa_ccc September 20, 2016 at 3:06 pm #

    “The only stipulation is, you can never have contact with Society ever again” –Cold

    Sounds like a Trump “solution” … kick “them” out… and things will be fine.

    Except things were not fine before “they” arrived, because “they” are not the problem.

    • Cold N. Holefield September 20, 2016 at 3:46 pm #

      True, things weren’t fine before, they’re not fine now and they never will be. So, it’s a matter of what brand of “not fine” you prefer. I prefer a brand where people like you can live together in perfect harmony on your own Island — The Island. And the rest of us can evolve without you and your colleagues manipulation & oppression.

  81. wpa_ccc September 20, 2016 at 3:16 pm #

    Trump spreads lies the way terrorists plant bombs: one goes off, and when the first responders rush in, there’s a second, or even a third.

    The main collateral blast when he spoke about birtherism last Friday, at his new hotel in Washington, D.C., was that “Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy.” They did not, as my colleague John Cassidy and others documented over the weekend.

    Trump continued, “I finished it. I finished it—you know what I mean.” Many reports indicated that they did know what he meant, or was mendaciously referring to: “his public pressure campaign in 2011 that resulted in Obama releasing his long-form birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii,” as Politico put it—as if that act added information about anything but Trump’s ambitions. The Times noted that “Mr. Trump’s spokesman, Jason Miller, asserted—also falsely—that Mr. Trump had ‘obtained’ Mr. Obama’s birth certificate. The president actually released the long-form version in 2011.”

  82. wpa_ccc September 20, 2016 at 3:21 pm #

    Bondi said she never thought to return the donation, because “if I had returned it, you would have reported, ‘Bondi accepted bribe, got caught, and returned it.’”

    Trump’s financial support of Bondi did not stop with his improper $25,000 gift in 2013. The Huffington Post reported last week that Trump hosted a $3,000-per-person fundraiser for Bondi at his Palm Beach mansion, Mar-A-Lago, in March 2014. Trump and his daughter Ivanka also gave $500 each to Bondi’s campaign in fall 2013. And in 2014, the pair donated another $125,000 to the Florida Republican Party, which was Bondi’s single biggest source of campaign funds.

    Trump has openly bragged that he uses campaign contributions to get favors from politicians and has a long history of giving gifts to officials who make decisions that are helpful to him and his businesses. “I’ve got to give [campaign contributions] to them, because when I want something, I get it,” Trump said in January.

    But in this case, Trump says he donated money to support Bondi’s campaign simply because he likes her.

    Another, besides Ivanka, that racist rapist Trump would like to bang.

  83. Cold N. Holefield September 20, 2016 at 3:39 pm #

    The best movie I’ve ever seen about Miners is Matewan.

    You Have To Fight….For Your Right….To Die From Pneumoconiosis

    • Cold N. Holefield September 20, 2016 at 3:43 pm #

      I don’t really like melodramatic movies about Mining Disasters, though, so I’ll skip the suggestion to see the Masonic The 33.

  84. Cold N. Holefield September 20, 2016 at 3:40 pm #

    What’s a Bondi?

    • Janos Skorenzy September 20, 2016 at 4:11 pm #

      It might be Hitler’s German Shepherd or was that Blondi?

  85. InquiringMind September 20, 2016 at 4:17 pm #

    Well…..If anyone noticed…I made a comment on September 20th at 5:01 in the morning,…….I guess it would take some effort to “scroll up” to go back there, and read it.. People shouldn’t be too smug thinking white …college educated…women in suburbs… will go for Hillery. So much pales in significance……….the first woman president, the Birther issue, healthcare issues, childcare issues….

    …..when you are called to a morgue to identify the body parts of your baby.!!!!! When you are holding it’s little severed foot in your hands!!!!!

    Yep. They”re hereeeeeeeeeere!!!!!!

    This new paradigm sucks. Go back and read my comment in the August blog “Let the Games Begin” …..about halfway down the length of the blog……..then think about what happened this past weekend.

    yours truly,

    Inquiring Mind

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 4:36 pm #

      “Well…..If anyone noticed…I made a comment on September 20th at 5:01 in the morning,…….”

      that i replied to at 3:26 in the afternoon.

      Now, rather that having an “Inquiring Mind” which would compel you to reply, you write a second Comment to get attention. About not getting attention.

      No,I won’t reply this time.

      Once was more than you deserve.

  86. malthuss September 20, 2016 at 4:24 pm #

    News feed posts that Obama and his people refuse to go to refugee hearings.

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 4:38 pm #

      i already told you that our President is here, with me, in nyc

      we got big things going

  87. barbisbest September 20, 2016 at 5:28 pm #

    Huh I’m a national treasure too. Nothing derogatory meant with the question what gender views porn more. Smart ass. Appreciated the use in the post. No porn sites. How refreshing. Gotta have a little reprieve when I’m so screwedddd. J. H. K. May be h.g. wells reincarnate, himself a prolific author. No gifts are lost from one life to the next. H.g. wells wrote his epitaph which said.” dam n you all. I told you.” he passed away in 1946. Screwed.

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 5:45 pm #

      “Nothing derogatory meant with the question what gender views porn more. ” – barbisbest

      well, to explain.

      the movies all star women

      men like to pay attention to women

      so, of course, men watch

  88. tucsonspur September 20, 2016 at 6:01 pm #

    We just granted citizenship to 800+ immigrants scheduled to be deported! Must be a new procedure to help keep us safe. Yes, do that. Vote for Hillary and get sliced and diced, or get your ass blown to bits. But don’t worry, we can vet ’em.

    • malthuss September 20, 2016 at 6:02 pm #

      God help us, with the ‘leadership’ that we have.

  89. messianicdruid September 20, 2016 at 6:05 pm #

    What a list! Nine scapegoats to blame for Clinton losing the election [ since it could not be her fault ].

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-20/huffpo-admits-its-over-hillary-publishes-list-9-scapegoats-will-be-blamed-her-loss

  90. FincaInTheMountains September 20, 2016 at 6:06 pm #

    Today the UN General Assembly, on which Obama will deliver his last speech from this podium, which journalists have already dubbed the swan song of Obama, is due to take place.

    Although it would be more correct to call it the death rattle of the State Department, because this speech will be devoted to US foreign policy, or rather the State Department that he, or rather she conducted on his behalf.

    Otherwise it will be UN wheezing the death rattle, UN which charter prohibits war in principle as a way of resolving conflicts, and recognizing the massive bombing of the Syrian army in the city of Dar-el-Zor in eastern Syria a “mistake”, where there is a Christian enclave, many months defending themselves from ISIS, that brings death to Middle Eastern Christians, the United Nations could just wipe itself with its own charter.

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 6:58 pm #

      you might want to visit

      gives a whole different impression

  91. chuckyzfr1 September 20, 2016 at 6:26 pm #

    JHK’s vision of an end to the constant growth model and protracted contraction contains an implied reduction (possibly massive) in the current population. I’d like to think my wife and I will be around to enjoy the songs, plays, and puppet shows of this post-globalism technology-less world of which he speaks…

    • dannyboy September 20, 2016 at 7:00 pm #

      You are everything and everything is you
      Oh, oh you are everything and everything is you
      Oh, oh, you are everything and everything is you

      –The Stylistics–

  92. barbisbest September 20, 2016 at 8:14 pm #

    Danny boy. I just heard that song. You are everything and everything is you. Synchronicities. And u don’t hear that one very often. Do do do do. T. Z.

    • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 8:38 am #

      We are all connected for eternity

      you tuned in to that and called it “Synchronicities”

      but it’s more than intermittent.

  93. InquiringMind September 20, 2016 at 8:20 pm #

    dannyboy,

    Sorry I missed your response.!

    It is not just about NYC ….it has been multiple places since 9 11.

    • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 8:39 am #

      Thank you for your generous reply

      and kindness

  94. barbisbest September 20, 2016 at 8:39 pm #

    May lead to great quote by h.g.wells “our true nationality is mankind.” cruisin. On now. Were gonna find a way. Glad you’re going my way. I love it when were cruisin together… You’re a cock-eyed optimist Danny boy. No pun intended. Gotta love it.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 21, 2016 at 12:19 am #

      Yes, the Globalists are the Enemy. Wells himself said countless good people would die fighting against the installation of the Global State – which he supported. You almost got it right – just backwards.

      • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 8:41 am #

        barbisbest is expressing Her Love

        and you, j, not-so-much
        even God rejects that

  95. The Shadow Broker September 20, 2016 at 8:41 pm #

    I agree with most of what you are saying but being a millennial I have 0 desire to “make my own stuff by hand.”

    Also I don’t want to put on play’s and live performances, I want to play video games online with my friends.

    Don’t you DARE take away my internet porn!

    I don’t want to waste my life getting married and raising a family, I want to have fun and enjoy life.

    Otherwise, great article…can’t wait for the monetary system to implode. It will be GLORIOUS!

  96. Pucker September 20, 2016 at 11:29 pm #

    In the video, Hillary is attempting to appeal to Millennials. According to the book “Generation Me”, the Boomers have brainwashed Millennials in the Cult of Self Esteem into believing that they’re “Special” and “Entitled”. What this typically means is that because the Millennials are “Special”, they are therefore entitled to prestigious high-paying jobs that are also “Dream” jobs. Hard work is not inculcated in the Cult of Self-Esteem. American blacks rank highest for Self-Esteem (Special and entitled because of past slavery); Asians rank the lowest for Self-Esteem.

    • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 8:44 am #

      Pucker,

      please discuss this with The Shadow Broker. I don’t think he’s read the book yet.

  97. InquiringMind September 20, 2016 at 11:45 pm #

    Hey Fincaln,

    I keep thinking, Why doesn’t America just begin a new paradigm with Russia? We certainly have closer cultural and ancient religious ties with Russia. We should link up against the crazies from the south,… of that part of the world !!!

    We should defend Christians.

    If we joined Russia we could make an end to this mess in Syria quickly. …yes?.

    It is crazy to be stuck in the “cold war” when Russians aren’t causing American citizens misery…..

    The misery all seems to be coming from those areas of the planet SOUTH of EUROPE….SOUTH of RUSSIA… and they have needle the USA no end! Hell…let Russia sell us their oil.

    The problems are from the south of everyone…NOT the east (Russia) …..

    Big deal about the Crimea….I followed that story close and I know that the Crimea begged for Russia to annex them….they were frightened of the new Ukraine government and they were a part of Russia for centuries . And where do they get that Russia invaded Ukraine? Bullshit!

    Russia was sending aid to Russian speaking people there that were the target of some kind of ethnic cleansing I read!!!

    Our MSM feeds Americans so much bullshit…. and we can go other places now and read and get informed and we know better!!!

    Russians aren’t dumping their troublesome people in everyone else ‘s countries all over the world,,….the United States, …..and Europe…. to hurt, maim, and kill. I KNOW Putin tried to get together with Obama to work out .Ukraine BUT Obama woudln have it.

    I , as an American ,would not BLAME the French and Germans and Hungarians and Greeks etc.if they turned to Russia for help against these varmints from the south .

    • FincaInTheMountains September 24, 2016 at 9:06 am #

      Western elites fear and hate Russia ever since the Great Schism of 1054, no matter whether Russia is Tzarist’s Empire, Communist or Democratic and almost every century venture into Russia on some kind of military adventure, which always ends the same way – defeat and humiliation, but at the expense of great suffering of Russian people.

      I guess American elites (or a least some part of them) feel like it’s their turn now.

      • dannyboy September 24, 2016 at 8:13 pm #

        gotta go back to 1054 to have something to brag about?

  98. Pucker September 21, 2016 at 12:35 am #

    Parkinson’s Disease—Put On a Happy Face

  99. wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 12:40 am #

    “Boomers have brainwashed Millennials in the Cult of Self Esteem into believing that they’re “Special” and “Entitled”” –Pucker

    We are special and entitled. It is in our Declaration of Independence. We have been brainwashed by the generation of 1776.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — Second Continental Congress, July 4, 1776

    Not only are we entitled. Our rights are UNALIENABLE. And notice it refers to ALL, not just legal residents. EVERY person living here, with or without documents, has these same rights.

    No Un-American fascist tin pot dictator like Trump is going to deport eleven million people, or ban entrance of 1.6 Billion people, based on their ethnic heritage, their civil status, or their religious beliefs.

    We fought the Revolutionary War to establish a nation where people can thrive without being discriminated against because of their race or their religion. If you are here, you are an American. You should have citizenship granted with full voting rights. “Taxation without representation is tyranny.” The tin pot wannabe dictator Trump is a tyrant.

    • Pucker September 21, 2016 at 1:00 am #

      Yawn….Fart….

      • Pucker September 21, 2016 at 1:18 am #

        According to the book “Generation Me”, one common way for Millennials to enhance their Self-Esteem (sense of feeling “Special” and “Entitled”) is to get a tattoo and/or body piercings.

        Black Lives Matter = Cult of Self-Esteem + Racism.

        Constructive criticism, such as suggesting that black people may benefit from speaking proper English, is rejected because it detracts from Self-Esteem.

    • messianicdruid September 21, 2016 at 9:28 am #

      Did you ever read the 14th amendment?

    • Lawfish September 22, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

      “We fought the Revolutionary War to establish a nation where people can thrive without being discriminated against because of their race or their religion.”

      Religion, maybe, but race? Surely you jest. The “we” of which you speak where white men who owned black slaves. They had no intention of allowing blacks or even women to participate in governance.

  100. wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 12:46 am #

    Police in Charlotte, North Carolina, on Tuesday fatally shot a black man as they searched for someone else. Witnesses said the man who was killed, Keith Lamont Scott, was unarmed and had a disability.

    Another disabled, unarmed, innocent Black man murdered by police.

    Ms. Lynch, get the federal investigation going and start locking up these out-of-control murderous police officer thugs.

    • wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 1:30 am #

      With this death today, that is the sixth killing of a civilian by Charlotte-Mecklenburg police in the past year. Officers in uniform who commit murder need to be tried in court and sentenced for murder.

      • elysianfield September 21, 2016 at 5:00 pm #

        Wpac,
        With all respect, quit your goddamned whining and answer my question. What would you do?

  101. wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 12:57 am #

    WASHINGTON ? Washington Post reporter David Fahrenthold on Tuesday published yet another blockbuster piece on Donald Trump’s charitable foundation, detailing how the Republican presidential nominee used $258,000 from his charity to settle lawsuits concerning his other businesses. FRAUD AND THEFT.

    In one case, Trump used charity money to settle a dispute over the size of his flagpole in front of his Florida Mar-A-Lago estate. He later used $5,000 from his charity to spend on advertising for his hotels and another $10,000 to have his likeness rendered in a large painting (the second such time his foundation has paid for a self-portrait). FRAUD AND THEFT.

    IMPEACH TRUMP ON NOV. 8 !!!

  102. wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 1:06 am #

    MORE TRUMP LIES ON IMMIGRATION

    “The government has no idea,” tRump said last year. “We have lost control of our country. We have lost control of our borders. The government has no idea how many illegals are here.”

    That’s not true: The undocumented population has remained stable since 2009, according to a report released on Tuesday by the Pew Research Center. The report, based on government data, gives a more complete picture of the current state of unauthorized immigration ? and the people Trump hopes to drive out.

    Pew estimates that there were 11.1 million undocumented immigrants as of 2014, down from a peak of 12.2 million in 2007. The number of Mexican undocumented immigrants decreased to an estimated 5.8 million people in 2014.

    More Mexican nationals are leaving the United States than coming to the country, according to a previous Pew Research Center report.

    Most Mexican undocumented immigrants in the U.S. have deep roots here ? as of 2014, 78 percent of them had been in the country for 10 or more years, the new Pew Research Center paper reported. That’s also true for 66 percent of the undocumented population as a whole.

    We have “lost control of our country” as Trump maintains. IMMIGRANTS ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR COUNTRY.

    Legalize immediately… ALL the undocumented… with full citizenship and voting rights.

  103. wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 1:36 am #

    2016 General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

    46% Hillary Clinton

    42% Donald Trump

    Updated three hours ago, based on trend line from 285 polls from 38 pollsters.

    Only one conclusion when you look at all 285 polls. Hillary is winning. Trump is losing.

  104. chiscotty September 21, 2016 at 1:41 am #

    “Suburbia isn’t working. During the baby boom, the suburbs gave families safe places to raise their kids. But now we are in an era of an aging population, telecommuting workers and single-person households.

    The culture and geography of suburbia are failing to nurture webs of mutual dependence.

    We are animals who can’t flourish unless we can’t [sic] get along without one another. Yet one finds too many people thrust into lives of semi-independence.”

    Gobsmacked.

    David Brooks (!) channels JHK in Tuesday’s NYT column.

    • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 9:00 am #

      I hold Kunstler in way higher regard than David Brooks.

      For lots of reasons; including his originality

      but Brooks is often last with ideas

  105. Pucker September 21, 2016 at 3:27 am #

    Grandma’s got tattoos and body piercings and watches internet porn.

    • Pucker September 21, 2016 at 4:19 am #

      Cockeyed Hillary says: “I think that we all can agree that families are not like what they were just a few decades ago.”

  106. Pucker September 21, 2016 at 4:30 am #

    ““A Washington Post analysis found that more than a third of the foundation’s largest donors were based outside the United States,” the newspaper continued. “The foundation also accepted millions from seven foreign governments while Hillary Clinton served as secretary of state.” 51 With Hillary firmly in charge of the Clinton Foundation, the gears of the moneymaking machine Bill and Hillary had orchestrated to benefit personally, most recently from Hillary’s position as secretary of state, were well oiled as Hillary faced the need to raise a war chest for her 2016 presidential campaign. Chelsea had been given her chance to clean house and she failed. Now, Shalala’s job was to keep the lid on Clinton Foundation scams until Hillary was firmly ensconced in the White House. With Hillary as president and Bill as “First Spouse” the Clintons would be protected from criminal investigations of the Clinton Foundation, with their moneymaking game positioned to advance to a new and much higher level.”

    “Partners in Crime”, Jerome Corsi

  107. Pucker September 21, 2016 at 4:42 am #

    What’s the difference between “Fund Raising” and Partying?

    “In the process of consummating the big deal, Giustra set up the Clintons to understand how profitable a “friendship” with him might be. In 2006, he threw a “star-studded 60 th birthday bash” for Bill Clinton at the Fairmont Royal York Hotel in Toronto. According to the Toronto Star, actor Kevin Spacey emceed the event, which included appearances by Billy Crystal and Bon Jovi. 3 The Clintons’ take from the birthday ball? The Vancouver Sun reported the birthday party netted a $21 million “donation” for the Clinton Foundation. 4”.

    “Partners in Crime”, Jerome Corsi

  108. barbisbest September 21, 2016 at 6:48 am #

    Think there may be a better chance than very good on that h.g.wells thing. See above. Anyway.. Here is a thought jerking quote of h.g.wells. “the past is but the beginning of a beginning and all that is or was is but the twilight of the dawn.” woe. Great post. Agreed except the part about democrat and republican being ancient. Not so ancient in the scheme of things. This is the strangest I’ve ever lived. Not troubled. Gifted. Cursed may be a better word point.

  109. FincaInTheMountains September 21, 2016 at 9:47 am #

    The main theme today undoubtedly is a serious conflict along the line US – Europe. This is very pleasant and promising news for Russia and, of course, for our Chinese partners. On a practical level, this conflict is expressed in three specific subjects:

    The actual breakdown of negotiations on the Transatlantic Partnership. It did not work for Americans to break the non-tariff barriers to EU market and, most importantly, failed plan for submission of the European executive, judicial and legislative powers to private American corporate courts of the ISDS (Investor-State Dispute Settlement) mechanism.

    The European Union, especially Germany and France, were able to sustain a very serious pressure and retain the key mechanisms that may in the future be used for the restoration of full sovereignty. Here we should not expect too much sudden movements and armed rebellion, but hoot from the gallery is also not necessary. They are now in a position similar to the one Russia was in 17 years ago. Walk the path to full sovereignty is difficult, but possible, and they made the first and most difficult step on it.

    Europe arranged itself an analogue of the Russian Yukos affair. This is a tax claim against Apple for 13 billion euros. The analogy with Yukos is very appropriate in the sense that the Europeans are trying to prove in practice that they have the right to collect tribute (taxes) on its territory. If you express the idea quite straightforward, the Europeans are trying to find out “who is power,” and the US side does not like it very much.

    The American response followed immediately. American prosecutors have written up a moribund Deutsche Bank for a penalty of $14 billion for the “unjust behavior” in 2008. Europeans did not retreat, Deutsche Bank said it will not pay, and the European Commission has fined McDonald’s for $500 million for tax evasion. Just today, the European Commission raised the stakes higher and said that “this is only the beginning (!)”

    • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 10:30 am #

      you russians still trying to undermine us?

      and you’re so gleeful in your attempts

      gloating prematurely?

      • FincaInTheMountains September 21, 2016 at 11:05 am #

        Let the Game never stop! You’ve grown fat ‘n lazy. Time to shape up!

        • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 11:07 am #

          I am trim and productive

          you ruskies are always wrong

          • Cold N. Holefield September 21, 2016 at 11:45 am #

            There’s that pesky dangling Pound Sign again — much like a Chad.

          • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 5:17 pm #

            Cold,

            maybe you took my well-intentioned advice too well

            when i recommended that jack is your friend to help with your broken ribs,

            i meant in moderation (ok, excess, but not too excessive).

            THAT POUND SIGN IS ATTACHED TO EVERYONE’S COMMENT HEADER

            (i know you like caps)

  110. FincaInTheMountains September 21, 2016 at 11:15 am #

    you ruskies are always wrong

    Still dreaming of the 90s goldilocks? Dream on!

    http://uratex.com.ph/uratex-blog-2015/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Goldilocks.jpg

    • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 11:21 am #

      i won’t click you russian virus infected link

      …and not forgive you for calling me “You’ve grown fat ‘n lazy. Time to shape up!” until you apologise

      • Cold N. Holefield September 21, 2016 at 11:37 am #

        hmmmm….I’ve noted your use of the “s” versus the “z” in apologi(s)ze. That means you’re Canadian, Brit or Aussie or some variation thereof. Are you an Armchair Detective too who apologi(s)zes to Murderers?

        Englishman In New York?

        • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 12:20 pm #

          Cold,

          don’t become a detective

          the true reason for the s instead of the z, or the z instead of the s, or any of the other permutations of (26×26) is that i comment in less that 3 seconds (Life’s too Important) and spelling suffers

          but that’s no problem for me

          • Cold N. Holefield September 21, 2016 at 12:44 pm #

            Bullshit!!

          • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

            yes

            be a detective

            i can see it

  111. FincaInTheMountains September 21, 2016 at 11:33 am #

    Just do not think that the American hawks are really sick on their collective head, no – just only one hemisphere, visual. Another hemisphere painstakingly calculates competitor’s losses and if not own profit, than the salvation from the bankruptcy of their assets in Military Industrial Complex and dollar derivatives.

    No one in the United States is actually going to verify the actual readiness of its Raptors and Carrier battle groups against roughly equal in strength opponent.

    It’s the American formula, glorified in Hollywood movies – “They are the same numbers as us, so let’s run away! “. Anglo Saxons prefer fighting only against obviously weaker opponent, like a tiny Grenada, and in other cases – only with someone else’s hands and away from their islands.

    • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 11:40 am #

      same old tune

      Khrushchev banging his shoe at the UN madly shouting “We will bury you!”

      contrasted with President Obama’s beautiful tones at the UN

      • FincaInTheMountains September 21, 2016 at 11:47 am #

        Don’t you worry! We don’t like Khrushchev much either. I think he was a London’s stooge.

        • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 12:21 pm #

          don’t like ANYBODY?

          try making friends

          enjoy yourselves more

  112. wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 11:36 am #

    For those who still believe that money matters:

    WASHINGTON ? Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton continues to lead her Republican opponent Donald Trump in fundraising as the November election nears. Her campaign brought in $59.5 million in August, while his raised $41.7 million, reports filed with the Federal Election Commission show.

    The disparity in fundraising has allowed Clinton to create a massive television advertising gap between herself and Trump. Her campaign, in conjunction with the Democratic Party, has hired a massive staff spread across the various swing states. The same cannot be said for Trump’s campaign nor the Republican National Committee, which has suffered from its odd relationship with its own nominee.

    • Cold N. Holefield September 21, 2016 at 11:43 am #

      You’re such a hypocrite and a liar. You’re the one who said money doesn’t matter about six months ago when I indicated it was the pattern without exception that the candidate who raised the most money was POTUS. You took umbrage with my factual assertion and provided all manner of non-evidence to the contrary, and here you are arguing the opposite and taunting people with your waffling hypocrisy. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU AND WHAT IS YOUR PURPOSE?

      Perhaps this Election will break that pattern, but I doubt it. Admit you were wrong. Admit you are a liar. Admit you are a hypocrite, or else, retract your comment about the relevancy of who raises the most money. Punk.

  113. wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 11:38 am #

    Slowly, then all at once the tide turns toward Hillary. George H. W. Bush says he is voting for Hillary.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 21, 2016 at 11:43 am #

      Ain’t that strange? I can’t figure out the meaning of that. And some Kennedy (Obama?) is involved?

      Was I correct about splitting America in three clans: Bush-Obama-Kennedy, the Donald and Clintonites?

    • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 7:37 pm #

      HAHAHAHA…!!! GHW Bush was a COWARD! A gutless wimp who existed solely to be Reagan’s minder on behalf of the neocons. He caved in to neocons and Democrats, alike, and undid the few good things that Reagan did for the Middle Class.

      Every single Act he signed (and left for Slick Willy to finish) set the stage for the destruction that is all around us today.

  114. Cold N. Holefield September 21, 2016 at 11:44 am #

    The Clintons and The Bushes and BHO have always been as one Behind The Scenes. A bunch of Pigs and America is their Trough.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 21, 2016 at 11:51 am #

      At least Bushes were taken care of folks, supplying ’em with affordable cocaine from Latin America, not unlike the god-damned Dems killing masses with their Afghan Heroin ODs.

      • Cold N. Holefield September 21, 2016 at 12:06 pm #

        That’s an excellent point, not to mention but I will, you can be amazingly productive with a Cocaine Habit — not so with Heroin. The Clintons (and BHO), compared to The Bushes, have chosen the Lazy Man’s Drug to push on The Polity. If The Donald is the next POTUS, I wonder what Drug he’ll choose to push on The Little People?

        Remember when they were called Drug Pushers? Now they’re Dealers. More Politically Correct euphemism.

  115. Cold N. Holefield September 21, 2016 at 11:48 am #

    I wonder if David Brooks shops at Brooks Brothers? If not, he should. I wonder if he watches porn videos like the Lowly Millennials in between World of Warcraft sessions?

    • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 12:24 pm #

      I LOVE Brooks Brothers!

      got my first serious suit there ($62)

  116. The inner voice of Janos September 21, 2016 at 11:50 am #

    There must be a reason for my failure in life. It can’t be me. It must be because I am surrounded by people who actively undermine me. They are all inferior and they are dragging me down with them every Marxist or black or woman for those are the only categories of people I recognise apart from myself and my close relations. Everyone who looks like me thinks like me unless they hate themselves. Self loathing is the only possible explanation for deviant thoughts. People who hate others make more sense to me than people who hate themselves. I am living in a messed up world because two hundred years of Anglo Saxon domination hasn’t yet succeeded in fully subjugating brown people? I am living in a messed up world because two hundred of years of AngloSaxon domination is under threat by upstart women and lefties? Why am I living in a messed up world when it is the world created by two hundred years of white domination?

  117. Cold N. Holefield September 21, 2016 at 11:55 am #

    In fact, the pattern has been broken this year. This is a unique year in American Presidential Campaigning. Perhaps it’s a Game Changer — for better or for worse is for you to decide. I’d like to think I had something to do with that with my Go Jeb! blog post a year and half earlier. “Cold’s on to us, let’s shake things up a little — or a lot.” And here we are. No one, not even the Freaks who unleashed it, can make sense of any of it. It’s its own Beast at this point.

    Jeb raised the most money in the primaries of any candidate, Democrat or Republican, and he has nothing to show for it except his ass that The Donald handed to him. If that same Campaign Finance pattern holds for the General Election, the fact that Hillary has whored a sizable War Chest compared to The Donald may be a moot and/or irrelevant gesture.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 21, 2016 at 12:00 pm #

      The Mystical-Meteorological Factor got involved, Jeb could do nothing against that.

  118. Cold N. Holefield September 21, 2016 at 12:01 pm #

    I love Khrushchev. Any person who has the temerity to take his shoe off in front of all those crooked, pompous, stuffed-shirted, effete Foreign Dignitaries at the United Nations is truly A Man of the People. I can see The Donald doing the same thing. In fact, I would love to see The Donald take off his shoe and zing it at Hillary during one of the debates, or better yet, turn around, drop his pants and moon her.

    The Donald is America’s Khrushchev. How can you not like this guy? How can you not LOVE this guy? And, he has a pretty daughter and a gorgeous daughter-in-law. I’m sold — even though I don’t vote. I think The Donald as POTUS will be a BLAST!!! Bring It On!!!!!

    • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 12:28 pm #

      i’d reply, but afraid of

      …The “Admit you were wrong. Admit you are a liar. Admit you are a hypocrite, or else, retract your comment about the relevancy of who raises the most money. Punk.” Treatment

      or worse

    • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 5:41 pm #

      FincaInTheMountains may have something to say regarding Khrushchev and it’s not very encouraging.

      We had a brief discussion on Nikita and there is a big difference between his public image as the man who brought Russia into the Space Age, and the Khrushchev who clusterfucked the internal workings of the Soviet economy. Plus, he shortsightedly ceded Crimea to the Ukraine as an administrative convenience to Moscow.

      Putin simply took back what should not have been ceded in the first place. Only “We Teh Sheep” can buy into the ignorant rantings that Putin stole Crimea from Ukraine, or invaded against Crimea’s will, or some other Big Lie like that.

  119. volodya September 21, 2016 at 12:04 pm #

    The shocking incapacity of the public from top to bottom to process the tendings of our time is especially pronounced at the top.

    The top lives in a world of abstractions. For example, they talk about climate change, they give speeches, they show us the charts and numbers and they tell us that we have to do something.

    “We” doing something most assuredly means not them giving the speech. It means you and me or somebody else. But certainly not them.

    And what does it mean to have a borderless world? I mean, doesn’t it sound so high-minded and intellectual? Isn’t Obama the paragon of enlightenment at the U.N., dumping on people that insist that borders must be enforced because, in his words, “a nation ringed by walls only imprisons itself”.

    Really? Is THAT what it means to have border enforcement, to live in a dreary Stalinist prison? Of course it means no such thing, it’s a ludicrous mis-characterization. There’s no way to measure the full-of-shitness of such an utterance, this is Obama at his full-of-shit best catering to the Oligarch agenda.

    But, of course, Obama and his ilk at the top have no idea. They’re insulated, they live in gated and guarded compounds, but they insist that such things are only for them. The rest of us have to somehow make do and make way and figure out how to accommodate millions of newcomers when at the same time millions of jobs are being shipped overseas. We and our ilk suffer, Obama and his class of people, don’t. Obama doesn’t have to do anything, to him it’s just an abstraction, to Obama, there’s no reality to it.

    The most important “tending” IMO is the progressive, day-by-day disintegration of the nation-state. People like Obama, and those in the top 10 percent, celebrate such a development because after all they’re the authors of it.

    The “tending” they’re not seeing however is that their well-being, their continued existence on this planet is dependent on that same nation-state they’re working tirelessly to undermine. Their own wealth, well-being, physical security is bound up and dependent on that nation-state. The nation-state guards and nurtures and defends them. They make their living from it. They just don’t seem to realize, that without the nation-state, their lives are worth shit.

    Of course, something will take the place of the nation-state as we know it. And, of course, Obama, Hillary and the crony-capitalists that finance them, think they’ll not only land on their feet, but be in-charge of what-comes-next. The Establishment always wins, goes the saying. But isn’t it true?

    Um, no, it isn’t. The Establishment DOESN’T always win. Far from it. Dynasties have been overthrown all over Europe and Asia, some in exile, some head-less, some in front of firing squads, some deep in mine-shafts.

    So, if history is our guide, and it’s usually dependable, the present day self-congratulating elites will be ousted, likewise the inordinately expensive police and military that provide enforcement muscle and the legal system that defends the elite’s wealth. And likewise their wealth itself as denominated in forms and signs in legal documents and electronic databases.

    Bye-bye, so long. You up-end the nation-state, you up-end everything that depends on it, you set in motion an out-of-control train of unintended consequences. See the Middle-East and Africa, see America’s southern border and the countries further to the south. This is just the start.

  120. FincaInTheMountains September 21, 2016 at 12:06 pm #

    Trump is an agent of Mystic-Meteorological Factor, in the sense that his appearance on the stage is a miracle, or rather a series of miracles.

    He did not want it, did not expect, but when he heard a Voice commanding him to get up and go to Nineveh, got up and went, no questions asked.

    http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-awful-lull/#comment-266683

    Mystical meteorological factor of Russian winter

    In the Western world there is an idiomatic expression «Russian winter». This expression does not mean skiing or sledding, but an attempt to cover up mistakes in the planning of military incursions by Western armies into Russia and their subsequent failure. These systematic failures, of course, cannot be explained only by a weather factor, however simple list of cases of “Russian Winter” makes you wonder, especially that such “incompetent” generals had to cover their mistakes as Swedish king Karl XII, nicknamed Swedish Alexander the Great, Napoleon and Hitler.

    http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/enter-jeb-and-hil/#comment-240749

    • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 12:31 pm #

      don’t criticize Hitler,you’ll hurt Janos’ feelings

  121. The inner voice of Janos September 21, 2016 at 12:32 pm #

    Any change in society that causes deviation from the true paradise that existed in white suburbia in the nineteen fifties of America must be resisted. Revolutions except for the one that created the American race by legislative decree is the fruit of deviant ideology and definitely not the expression of genuine grievances. All that is not me or what looks like me or believes in the same myths as me is dangerous to me. Cosmopolitanism never did noone no good. Everything good derives from being united in ideas. You can’t be strong if you are constantly worried that the guy behind you doesn’t like NASCAR.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 21, 2016 at 2:49 pm #

      In terms of Berne’s Transactional Analysis’ Parent/Adult/Child – you are child entering adolescence. You think your parent’s White World is the problem. And all these cool, beautiful Blacks are being oppressed. So answer me this: why did Blacks from all over Africa desperately swarm into “evil” apartheid South Africa? Because they were prosperous, right? But why? What happened to the paradise of Black Afritopia?

      Face it, little Jan, it never existed. Whites have been the civilizing force in that dark continent of savagery. Of course the raw or mensch material is particularly poor in this case – and they can never maintain what they’ve been given or stolen.

      • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 4:17 pm #

        why can’t you or malthuss reply to the inner voice of Janos without Yiddish?

  122. wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 1:10 pm #

    ” I think The Donald as POTUS will be a BLAST!!! Bring It On!!!!!” –Cold

    Whoa! You have revealed a tremendous amount of personal information about yourself.

    Now I know you are not Muslim, you are not Black or Hispanic, you are not disabled, a woman, gay, transgender, etc.

    Like most of CFN you are a Republican (though you deny it), a WASP, and a bit nihilistic. Like JHK says, anything goes…

    Let’s try a Trump presidency, no skin off your nose, right? You’ll probably survive any Trump-provoked nuclear exchange, right?

    • Cold N. Holefield September 21, 2016 at 1:54 pm #

      You are CORRECT, Sir ( or is it Madame?)!!

      I have always claimed there is no me. There is only you and your perception/misperception.

  123. wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 1:15 pm #

    RENEWABLE GOES MAINSTREAM WITH ENTERPRISE

    Apple said it has joined RE100, a global initiative by influential businesses committed to using 100% renewable electricity. To date, RE100 has amassed membership from 77 corporations.

    Other RE100 members include Hewlett Packard Enterprise, VMware, Rackspace and Wells Fargo.

  124. Cold N. Holefield September 21, 2016 at 1:59 pm #

    What’s an example of a suit that’s not serious? I hate suits — always have. And Briefs. What kind of Freak wears Briefs? What kind of Freak invented Briefs? The same Freak no doubt who invented the Bullet Bra. Let’s button up all Sexual Organs & Genitalia and militarize it. Yeah, THAT”S THE TICKET!!

    The Bullet Bra — We Mean It When We Say Your Breasts Will Be To Die For!! Ammunition & Batteries Not Included.

    • dannyboy September 21, 2016 at 4:26 pm #

      “What’s an example of a suit that’s not serious?” – Cold N. Holefield

      to quote a Great Man, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU AND WHAT IS YOUR PURPOSE?

      that suit was selected by my girlfriend (had any?), who later became my wife. that was serious.

      less serious was the iridescent suit that i wore when dating two girls who were best friends back in jr. high school (the competition helped motive each to ‘put out’). i didn’t marry either, but the puerto rican girl loved the suit as did her mother. in retrospect i think it was the fact that her mother loved the suit that got her to put out.

  125. wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 5:52 pm #

    “there is no me” –Cold

  126. wpa_ccc September 21, 2016 at 6:46 pm #

    Donald Trump had trouble deciding which bathroom to use because he identifies as a smart businessman, but he was born an idiot.

  127. Janos Skorenzy September 21, 2016 at 8:04 pm #

    http://www.amren.com/news/2016/09/sociopath-alert-hillary-clinton/

    Great expose of Hillary. One poster said she had an affair with Yoko in the 70’s. That should disqualify her in and of itself.

    • malthuss September 21, 2016 at 11:33 pm #

      Pat Boyle notes,
      I have been systematically watching all of the Sapolsky lectures on YouTube.
      I recommend them, Sapolsky is a professor of neurobiology at Stanford.
      Sapolsky goes to Africa every summer and lives among a troop of baboons. He looks like he just came in from the bush where he had been chased by a leopard. I’ve read one or two of his books, which I also recommend.

      He is (I think) a liberal but he’s still worth listening to. He mentioned something in Lecture 18? that caught my attention.

      He mentioned a new interpretation of the human brain in which the prefrontal cortex is now considered part of the limbic system.
      This is an interpretation of neuroanatomy that I had never heard before.

      The significance is that Africans have a significantly smaller prefrontal cortex than whites or East Asians.

      The limbic system is a collective term for the sub-cortical structures that mediate sex, aggression and threat recognition functions.
      The pre-frontal cortex is the most recently evolved brain structure.
      Only real humans who have emerged recently have this structure. Earlier hominids and hominoids lacked it.

      Black people (Africans) have smaller prefrontal cortices which suggests that they are evolutionarily more primitive. It also, given Sapolsky’s insight, suggests that blacks should act more impulsively because they lack that part of the human brain which moderates impulses.
      For example a black man who sees a black man and feels threatened processes almost the entire encounter in his amygdala whereas a white man also enlists his prefrontal cortex. Sapolsky explains how this greater processing circuit leads to a more nuanced response.

      Most readers of this blog will find these findings obvious – they have long observed black behavior and are familiar with its stereotypical characteristics.
      All the black stupidity as well as the lack of future orientation that Paul writes about very week is an obvious consequence the connection between the prefrontal cortex and the limbic system.

      Those black ministers and their marching congregations are wasting their time. The black propensity for violence is not on the streets. It’s in their heads.

      • malthuss September 21, 2016 at 11:34 pm #

        The size of babies’ heads at birth is strongly linked to their future success, with larger head circumferences and brain volume associated with higher intelligence, scientists have found.

        The finding is among the first to emerge from data gathered by UK Biobank, in which 500,000 Britons are being studied over the long term to discover the links between their genes, their physical and mental health and their path through life.

        A key target for the research is unraveling the complex links between brain function and DNA — one of neuroscience’s great challenges because so many genes are involved.

        [so many Jeans, so little time]

        • malthuss September 21, 2016 at 11:37 pm #

          But women have smaller heads.
          In proportion to their body size or weight, how does this compute?

          • Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 3:38 am #

            Whales have bigger brains too, but they don’t seem to be as smart as people. So it’s proportion and of course convolutions. Blacks have small, light, and smooth brains. Untroubled like the primates who dwell in the Eden of Unconsciousness. Whites are a curse to Blacks because we wake them up to their imperfections without being able to help them overcome them.

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 8:09 am #

            how about dolphin brains.

            ever swim with dolphins?

      • Elrond Hubbard September 23, 2016 at 10:14 am #

        malthuss: I think it was you who brought up Sapolsky’s lectures before in this connection, and I have to thank you for that. Since I have now listened to them, I’d just like to point out that everything in your post starting at “The significance is that” doesn’t come from him. It’s you, visiting your racist preoccupations on the world.

        To be specific: Nowhere, and I mean nowhere in the lecture series does Sapolsky assert that “a black man who sees a black man and feels threatened processes almost the entire encounter in his amygdala whereas a white man also enlists his prefrontal cortex” or anything similar. You pulled that, fresh and steaming, out of your butt and decided to fling it at us. Stop it.

    • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 7:56 am #

      “One poster said she had an affair with Yoko in the 70’s. That should disqualify her in and of itself.”

      Janos’ delusion that a blog comment creates reality. wow

  128. Pucker September 21, 2016 at 11:26 pm #

    How did Hillary in an unelected capacity get a Security Clearance?

    ““A Washington Post analysis found that more than a third of the foundation’s largest donors were based outside the United States,” the newspaper continued. “The foundation also accepted millions from seven foreign governments while Hillary Clinton served as secretary of state.” 51 With Hillary firmly in charge of the Clinton Foundation, the gears of the moneymaking machine Bill and Hillary had orchestrated to benefit personally, most recently from Hillary’s position as secretary of state, were well oiled as Hillary faced the need to raise a war chest for her 2016 presidential campaign. Chelsea had been given her chance to clean house and she failed. Now, Shalala’s job was to keep the lid on Clinton Foundation scams until Hillary was firmly ensconced in the White House. With Hillary as president and Bill as “First Spouse” the Clintons would be protected from criminal investigations of the Clinton Foundation, with their moneymaking game positioned to advance to a new and much higher level.”

    “Partners in Crime”, Jerome Corsi

  129. wpa_ccc September 22, 2016 at 12:14 am #

    “How did Hillary in an unelected capacity get a Security Clearance?”

    Probably because she was Secretary of State and needed a security clearance. Besides, she is patriotic and trustworthy. Having security clearance is not a big deal.

  130. wpa_ccc September 22, 2016 at 12:19 am #

    “The black propensity for violence is not on the streets. It’s in their heads.”

    There is no “propensity for violence” … but there is, understandably, a bit of resentment after 450 years of mistreatment.

    Just look back on the 20th century. White-on-white violence caused millions of deaths in WW1 and WW2 and all the colonial occupations, genocide of native peoples, enslavement and lynching of Black people.

    Blacks cannot come close to matching white violence. Whites have proven themselves to be the violent ones.

  131. wpa_ccc September 22, 2016 at 1:16 am #

    “you russians still trying to undermine us? … and you’re so gleeful in your attempts … gloating prematurely?” –dannyboy

    Russia is a minor regional player. The US is a dominant global superpower. For example, Russia only has one aircraft carrier. In December 1991, she sailed from the Black Sea to join the Northern Fleet. It is sad. Now Russia has announced it is sending its only aircraft carrier to waters off Syria’s coast, leaving Russia without aircraft carrier defense.

    The USA has ten aircraft carriers in its fleet and three more being constructed. We waste half our discretionary federal budget on military crap. We have built and decommissioned 67 aircraft carriers, at a cost of hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money, a theft of food, housing, medical care, education, from the American people.

    “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

    This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.”

    –Dwight D. Eisenhower

    • wpa_ccc September 22, 2016 at 1:23 am #

      A theft for violence executed by white American generals and white American presidents, on a scale so large it dwarfs the “propensity for violence” of all the African-Americans combined.

      No one can match white violence against its own nation, and its thievery that has resulted in a crumbling infrastructure, failing medical system, failing educational system, etc. because national resources have built so much weaponry instead of investing in the well-being of the American people, as required by the Constitution.

      • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 7:59 am #

        thanks for replying to that earlier comment from wpa_ccc
        September 22, 2016 at 1:16 am #
        “you russians still trying to undermine us? … and you’re so gleeful in your attempts … gloating prematurely?” –dannyboy…

        i didn’t care to

  132. Pucker September 22, 2016 at 2:48 am #

    Neanderthals (the ‘th’ pronounced as ‘t’) are our closest extinct human relative. Some defining features of their skulls include the large middle part of the face, angled cheek bones, and a huge nose for humidifying and warming cold, dry air. Their bodies were shorter and stockier than ours, another adaptation to living in cold environments. But their brains were just as large as ours and often larger – proportional to their brawnier bodies.

    • Elrond Hubbard September 23, 2016 at 5:31 pm #

      I for one will go on pronouncing the ‘th’ in “Neanderthal” as the theta sound ‘th’, not the ‘t’ sound. Once English imports a word from another language, I don’t see why we would need to track the pronunciation of the original language forever.

      Also, I pronounce the aitch in ‘herb’ or ‘herbal’, a tic that I picked up from my father. And of course, the last letter of the alphabet is zed. Not only does that make it easier to distinguish from ‘c’, ‘d’, ‘e’, ‘t’ and so forth, but besides, it just is. Because I said so. Now you kids get off my lawn!

  133. Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 3:40 am #

    Anytime a Black tries to read a book, those jump out boys jump out and shoot him. Under Trump, Blacks will be forbidden to read!

    http://www.dailystormer.com/south-carolina-good-boy-killed-on-fox-10-livestream/

  134. Pucker September 22, 2016 at 4:20 am #

    Wikileaks….

    “”The same tactics were used to attack Schweizer’s 2015 book alleging the Clintons had traded political intervention for contributions. The problem is that bribery, the specific charge Schweizer alleged, requires proof of a quid pro quo. Law enforcement investigators would need access to e-mails that criminals typically hide or destroy in their effort to avoid establishing proof of wrongdoing.”

    “Partners in Crime”, Jerome Corsi

  135. BackRowHeckler September 22, 2016 at 7:13 am #

    The ceasefire in Syria isn’t going too good. In fact, you might say there really wasn’t a ceasefire at all.

    About the time President Obama was telling his audience at the UN how peaceful and stable the world has become since he was elected, an aid convoy rolling in NSyria was wiped out by a Syrian and possibly Russian sustained airstrike. A few days before that the US Air Force bombed Syrian positions around Aleppo.

    Does anyone know, whose side are we on in this war? There are many sides, as many as in the Spanish Civil War, 1936-1939. Meanwhile, the war itself is morphing into strange new shapes, and presents the possibility of drawing in major regional and international powers in a much larger way, perhaps kicking off WW3.

    So far this presidential election seems to be about who likes immigrants from the 3rd world, Muslims, and BLM activists the most, and who is or isn’t a racist. That’s it! Important issues like the one I mentioned above are hardly even mentioned. Is this a serious country, or what?

    brh

  136. BackRowHeckler September 22, 2016 at 7:30 am #

    Uh oh, NASCAR Hall of Fame looted in Charlotte, lotsa momentos and trophies carried away. Also, yesterday was shopping day, so to speak, and it wasn’t even the 1st day of the month: Walmart got looted.

    There was a special on flat screen TVs.

    brh

    • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 8:00 am #

      thrive on bad news?

      • BackRowHeckler September 22, 2016 at 8:04 am #

        I’m always on the lookout for good news, Dan.

        brh

        • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 8:53 am #

          1. Scanning software deciphers ancient biblical scroll
          21 September 2016 – The charred lump of a 2,000-year-old scroll sat in an Israeli archaeologist’s storeroom for decades, too brittle to open. Now, new imaging technology has revealed what was written inside.

          2.Syrian refugee musicians sell out shows in Germany
          21 September 2016 – At the neoclassical Concert House in Berlin’s Gendarmenmarkt, busts of German composers Beethoven, Bach, and Handel looked on as the 65 musicians took their seats for a sold-out weekend concert. The Syrian Expat Philharmonic Orchestra settling in to play represents a much more recent chapter in German history, consisting entirely of professional musicians who fled civil war in their homeland to seek refuge in Europe.

          3. U.N. ‘certain’ Paris climate deal will enter into force by end-2016
          19 September 2016 – U.N. officials have said they are confident the Paris climate change agreement will enter into force by the end of 2016.

          4. Ukraine hands back stolen paintings to Dutch museum
          19 September 2016 – Kiev authorities handed over to the Netherlands on Friday five masterpieces stolen from a Dutch museum in 2005 and recovered in Ukraine earlier this year.

          much more good news than bad in our dear world

          • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 11:29 am #

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            cc: BB @ HQ-INGSOC, Comrade Bhukov (MinRap).

          • BackRowHeckler September 22, 2016 at 1:01 pm #

            OK Dan, you got me.

            There is good news to be had; one just has to search for it.

            Too bad some of this good news doesn’t make the headlines, which is all I have time for sometime.

            Beside, CFN isn’t about good news, its about the hard work that lay ahead to build sustainable communities.

            brh

        • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 9:59 am #

          “Strangely enough, while others feel despair at the political chaos, I am experiencing the faint flutter of optimism. Not for the 2016 election and certainly not for Trump, but rather for long run. I know American history well enough to know the nation does not advance without a bruising battle against long, often torturous resistance.

          I am feeling hopeful because I read the chaos of 2016 as the start of something big, the first rumblings of people rising to break up the status quo and forging a new deal. This election won’t do that. Neither party is trustworthy. But I sense an opening.

          In my last book, Come Home, America, I compared the democratic power of ordinary citizens to an underground river that runs along unseen and ignored for many years until one day, for whatever reasons, their impulse for democracy surges up and breaks through the surface of political affairs and effectively changes everything.

          This is a wishful notion, I admit, but the chaos of 2016 tells me we may be at one of those rare moments when people figure out how to make themselves heard and then set out to change everything.”
          By William Greider

  137. dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 9:17 am #

    We are all One

    “In the journal Nature, three separate teams of geneticists survey DNA collected from cultures around the globe, many for the first time, and conclude that all non-Africans today trace their ancestry to a single population emerging from Africa between 50,000 and 80,000 years ago…

    “Early studies of bits of DNA also supported this idea. All non-Africans are closely related to one another, geneticists found, and they all branch from a family tree rooted in Africa.”

    source: SCIENCE

    How We Got Here: DNA Points to a Single Migration From Africa
    NYT SEPT. 21, 2016

    • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 11:13 am #

      Irrelevant. That’s like saying all plants are One because they all grow in dirt. Some plants feed people. Some are beautiful. Some are toxic. Some are invasive. Some are just there. They are different and for the same reason that races and ethnic groups are different.

      Human bodies-politic are NOT the same. The races and ethnic groups are distinguishable by the respective ideologies that each has evolved around. Those distinctions were easily visible before the Jewish race-mixing ideology got involved and polluted the world.

      • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 11:42 am #

        live it up

        jim-who-hates-to-be-in-Florida

        knock yourself out
        jim-who-hates

        • Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 2:19 pm #

          Danny “all facts are hate facts” Boy: When David Duke used to stand up and speak in college, Blacks would cut their fingers and then hold them up saying, “See? It’s red just like yours”. Duke would answer, “If you cut a rat, it would bleed red too.”

          • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 5:54 pm #

            lovely thoughts, janos

            i can’t imagine your hellish experience

      • wpa_ccc September 22, 2016 at 12:59 pm #

        “the Jewish race-mixing ideology got involved and polluted the world.” –Jim-who-hates

        So, it is becoming more difficult to tell white from non-white? And this is a problem how?

        You should do one of those Ancestry DNA test to discover your Black roots. You seem to be in denial about your African heritage.

        https://dna.ancestry.com

        Thank God for the Jews and their beautiful skin color.

        • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 1:33 pm #

          Anti-White RACIST.

          Your worst nightmares feature pure, blond-haired, blue-eyed, straight Nordic Men who have not lost their Viking energy OR their identity. The OUTRAGE that such Whites should still exist causes you to wake up with knots in your stomach.

          Then you go out mudsharking; which helps you get over it. You do enough coal-burning in the clubs to get the EPA’s attention!

          • wpa_ccc September 22, 2016 at 4:46 pm #

            “The OUTRAGE that such Whites should still exist…” –JIF

            Not outrage. Relief that “pure, blond-haired, blue-eyed, straight Nordic Men” do not exist. JiminFlorida, take the Ancestry DNA test and find out how much African heritage you have.

            There are no pure Asians, or pure whites. We are all mixtures with some Black blood.

            And what is the problem with that?

            Racial purity does not exist, is not achievable, and is not desirable. To achieve racial purity would require a strict inbreeding between very close relatives for over twenty generations. Ain’t happening, thank goodness.

          • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 5:25 pm #

            You know full well that “purity” is a relative term in its sociological context. The average Nordic Man very likely has some Anglo, or Norman, or Germanic, or Slavic. The standard of purity is that they are White.

            I don’t subscribe to the crackpot pseudo-science that asserts sub-Saharan Black African DNA is in all mankind. The average Chinaman would take issue with such a claim.

          • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 5:55 pm #

            no Science for Jimbo

            don’t confuse him

        • Elrond Hubbard September 23, 2016 at 5:50 pm #

          wpa, the temptation to take on the likes of JimInFlorida and Janos and win out on the merits is ever-present, but you need to accustom yourself to the fact that there’s no point. No one can reason somebody out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. The bigoted beliefs comes first, and then they construct rationalizations for them. We all do it; they’re just conspicuously shitty examples.

          • JimInFlorida September 24, 2016 at 10:23 am #

            Elrond revealing his own process of self-justification and projecting it onto me and Janos! We are ONE, don’t ya know!

          • dannyboy September 24, 2016 at 8:14 pm #

            that we are one excludes you and janos

  138. Cold N. Holefield September 22, 2016 at 12:16 pm #

    dannyboy said: We are all One

    You have to love it. I know Orwell does — so much so, he’s rolling in his grave — AGAIN.

    Selling Homogeneity under the guise of Diversity. Kind of like calling Healthcare Legislation, written by and for the Insurance Companies & Pharmaceutical Companies, that has resulted in more expensive healthcare The Affordable Care Act.

    • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 12:23 pm #

      cold

      • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 12:33 pm #

        ok Colden,

        i should truly to be more helpful to you (as you know, we are all One, just different):

        if it is the case that you believe that The Affordable Care Act is not yet perfect for you, then one thing, starting right away, is to stop being focused on bad news and negativity…

        …you know that affects your health.

    • wpa_ccc September 22, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

      Just got my Annual Notice of Changes for my medical insurance. Costs are going down drastically in 2017.

      My monthly premium for 2017 will be $0 per month (zero, nada, zilch).

      My primary doctor visits for 2017 will have a co-pay of $0 per visit (zero, nada, zilch).

      Other costs have been reduced as well. Nothing is more expensive. All changes for 2017 are REDUCTIONS in out-of-pocket costs and increases in the level of benefits provided.

      Obamacare is working for me!

    • wpa_ccc September 22, 2016 at 1:27 pm #

      E Pluribus Unum = Tat Tvam Asi

      Harmony in Diversity is not Homogeneity.

      • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 2:02 pm #

        “Tat Tvam Asi”

        Now you’re talkin’ my language!

      • Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 2:23 pm #

        Yes, as Israel Shamir, Jewish convert to Orthodox Christianity said, Of course the Jew and the Christian can get along together, just like the Lion and the Lamb. Just provide a new Lamb each morning.

        • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 8:14 am #

          you constantly quote the wisdom of Jewish people. Why now, suddenly a convert?

    • Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 2:26 pm #

      Maybe the Insurance Companies were forced just as Real Estate was forced to sell houses to unqualified minorities.

      I once asked you about the Auto Industry and you began to teach, then just stopped for no apparent reason. I never found out why Japan brings its car factories here while our companies go elsewhere.

      • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 7:23 pm #

        The domestic Big Three are bound by legacy labor contracts and labor rights. Noble things that Americans fought hard for during the 20th century and made the Middle Class life possible. Only by moving overseas did the corporations escape their social and moral obligations.

        True, corporations are not creatures of social or moral obligation but, POLITICAL power can MAKE them be mindful of such things. FDR’s New Deal made a decent effort at imposing some Social Contract upon them and the mid-20th century was our Golden Age because of that.

        Regarding Japanese automakers, they are here because none of those legacy labor laws apply to them. Thus, they can get relatively cheap labor and greatly reduce the cost of shipping the cars to markets in North America.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 7:33 pm #

          Thanks, that makes sense. Bet they’re smart enough to treat their workers pretty good anyway. After all, they’re smart enough to set up in overwhelmingly White areas.

          • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 8:09 pm #

            In these times, we have to take what we can get.

            Nissan has assembly plants in Tennessee and Mississippi. Hard core Right To Work States. Even so, a worker on the Nissan assembly line still makes better wages than from the vast majority of low-wage junk jobs locally available.

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 8:16 am #

            JimHatesFlorida,

            considering a move to Tennessee or Mississippi?

            …that’ll mean we’ll need to write JimHatesTennessee or JimHatesMississippi.

            which one is it?

          • JimInFlorida September 23, 2016 at 4:27 pm #

            Dan, at least I can brag that Flori-DUH isn’t at the bottom of the pile! Close to, but not at, the bottom!

          • dannyboy September 24, 2016 at 4:43 pm #

            JimInFlori-DUH

            so your aspiration is not to be on the bottom?

  139. Cold N. Holefield September 22, 2016 at 12:47 pm #

    dannyboy said: you know that affects your health.

    Yes, it surely does.

    As the wise Quintus Arrius said to Judah Ben Hur, “Hate Keeps a Man Alive — It Gives Him Strength!.”

    Another World Made By Hand

    • Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 2:28 pm #

      The Rabbis advise spending a lot of time in the bathroom as a way of getting in touch with the energies of life. Surely they are correct in this? It’s great having your own bathroom, a warm one.

      • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 6:18 pm #

        yes, the empty colon allows better flow of The Energies.

        • elysianfield September 23, 2016 at 10:29 am #

          “yes, the empty colon allows better flow of The Energies.”

          d,
          More wisdom of the Jewish People?

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 4:09 pm #

            endless wisdom

            on all aspects of life

  140. Cold N. Holefield September 22, 2016 at 12:56 pm #

    How many more years until they start using these for Crowd Control after they’ve thrown every last human off the land and into the Urban, and Suburban, Ghettos?

    NASCAR? Now they’ve gone too far. What’s next? The Smithsonian? Dollywood? The Creation Museum?

    Is nothing Sacred anymore?

    The Scoops

  141. Cold N. Holefield September 22, 2016 at 1:36 pm #

    wpa said: Obamacare is working for me!

    Well, good for YOU!! And Jim Crow was working for Janos’ Grandparents. Their motto was:

    Jim Crow is working for me!

  142. wpa_ccc September 22, 2016 at 1:58 pm #

    Obamacare was developed by a Republican think tank (Heritage), implemented by a Republican governor (Romney), passed into national law by Congress, signed by the President, ruled legal and constitutional by the Supreme Court (twice!), and gave free comprehensive healthcare to millions of Americans through Medicare expansion.

    Jim Crow was not legal or moral.

    • Cold N. Holefield September 22, 2016 at 2:11 pm #

      Neither is creating & passing criminal legislation that props up the failed business models of trollish healthcare insurance companies and the predatory business models of pharmaceutical companies while driving people further into poverty with rising premiums, copays & deductibles or IRS fines. To engage the IRS as an enforcement arm in this Racket to coerce poor people to forgo edible & nutritious food on the table so they can fork over their pittance for Insurance Executive Bonuses or else be fined is deplorable — beyond the pale. It is True Tyranny.

      Medicaid has always been a crap System. To offer Medicaid as an option shows just how morally bankrupt the Shitbirds in Washington really are. Doctors won’t accept it, and for good reason. It’s never funded properly, the reimbursement rates are atrocious and it doesn’t reimburse in a timely manner if it reimburses at all.

      You’re a Sicko, wpa. Million Dollar Bonus, indeed. For your Insurance Executive friends. Punk.

  143. Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 2:36 pm #

    White Woman volunteers are exploiting Muslim refugees in Calais by having sex with them. A male volunteer spilled the beans on the “abuse”. Women are outraged at being caught in the dirty deed, torn between lust and moral outrage at not having the moral high ground, while the hated White Man smirk and tsk tsk them.

    Obviously it’s not “abuse” but something far more primal – a desire to be used by men who don’t put them on a pedestal.

    http://www.dailystormer.com/white-women-volunteering-at-calais-having-sex-with-multiple-migrants-per-day/

    I’ll never forget the look of absolute triumph a young woman gave me when I saw her with her Black African paramour. She knew she deserved punishment and that I couldn’t give her what she needed. Thus she was free to indulge her worst self….

    • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 2:43 pm #

      was this a dream?

      • Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 3:36 pm #

        A dream to some, a nightmare to others. Laugh while you can, Dan, you will not laugh long. Our demise is yours as well.

        Good quote about women:

        If a person of repute is to tell her something, she will evaluate the thing based on the importance of the person who told her it rather than dissect the elements of what she was told. It is in this way that lesbianic upper class women duped the common woman into working; by playing on the innate victim complex characteristic of woman’s infantile narcissism, they were able to convince her that labour was a freedom women were denied rather than a burden from which they were saved. Womankind subsequently rationalised away her position of relative comfort unencumbered by the harshnesses of labour, and bought into the idea she was born into an oppressed class. As such it becomes quite clear, interpersonally she is cunning, but ideologically she is the very fool she manipulates relationally

        Does this not explain the horrible brittle quality of so many of our female posters? So childish and worshiping of new authorities even as she trashes the authorities that her TV Fam have been told to turn against. How does she choose? As the author state: Power. And how does that fit in with her idealistic vision of herself? Poorly!

        • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 6:28 pm #

          “Laugh while you can, Dan”

          ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha…

          Dan I Am

          That’s Mr Dan to you, j

          • Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 7:40 pm #

            Dan Cuck or Danny the Cuck? Which do you prefer?

          • elysianfield September 22, 2016 at 8:02 pm #

            “That’s Mr Dan to you, j”

            Dannyboy,
            “Mr” is offered as an indication of respect…you can’t demand it, you gotta earn it.

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 8:17 am #

            e

            i earned it plenty

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 9:32 am #

            Janos,

            Don’t use a familiar name with me. We have nothing in Common, including my humanity.

            So…I prefer dannyboy

        • AKlein September 23, 2016 at 8:03 am #

          In 1975 I can remember working for a small consulting firm. My boss, the owner of the company, was going to Las Vegas for an industry convention. The keynote speaker of the convention was none other than the highly lauded Peter Drucker. This piqued my interest, so when my boss returned from Las Vegas, I asked him what pearls of wisdom Drucker had presented. My boss enumerated the topics that Drucker had addressed. Drucker’s primary message centered on the role of women in the workplace. Drucker opined that women in America had a lot more to offer business. They needed to be liberated from wasting their talents on the raising of families but rather brought into the workplace where their talents could be put to much better use managing the minutiae of business. Drucker’s premise was that women in general, but especially women who were responsible for the management of family affairs, were clearly very capable of managing a plethora of disparate tasks and topical areas present in the running of a business; that capability could be put to much more profitable use in the service of business. Drucker made it clear that American business needed to get women out of the familial house where their talents were effectively wasted and into the office where their skills could be used to increase profits.
          It was at that point I realized that Peter Drucker was an odious creature in service to a Moloch. Those of you who participate in this blog should recognize to what end Drucker’s grand scheme has brought us. Drucker is the kind of vile character that has been lionized by certain elements in our society. I know those elements know who they are and what they are doing by the way.They are by no means innocent.

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 8:21 am #

            I attended Drucker’s talks in person (I hate relying on second-hand hearsay).

            Great thinker. I most remember his explaining how robotics could perform mindless and repetitive work, freeing those to think and invent.

            I guess he overestimated the ‘think and invent’ part.

          • Elrond Hubbard September 24, 2016 at 6:36 pm #

            AKlein: “Those of you who participate in this blog should recognize to what end Drucker’s grand scheme has brought us.”

            What end is that? Sorry, but what apparently is self-evident to you isn’t self-evident to everyone. Please spell it out.

      • beantownbill. September 22, 2016 at 3:36 pm #

        What’s all this racist, anti-Semitic shit got to do with resource overshoot and the long emergency?

        • wpa_ccc September 22, 2016 at 4:36 pm #

          “Take a look inside Detroit’s new QLINE streetcar” –Elrond Hubbard

          Nice way to address two issues at once: public transportation and resource overshoot. The streetcars will run off line and on battery power about 60% of the time. Thanks, Elrond.

          • malthuss September 22, 2016 at 5:19 pm #

            Or a chimp. Are apes blue blooded?

        • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 5:18 pm #

          Be sure to also ask wpa_ccc how her extremist views contribute to JHK’s commentary on resource overshoot and the Long Emergency.

        • malthuss September 22, 2016 at 5:20 pm #

          Israel is the most racist, anti semetic [semetic meaning of the Middle East] place, yes?

          • beantownbill. September 22, 2016 at 7:33 pm #

            Malthuss is the most racist, anti-Semitic person there is, yes?

            P.S. For a hater, not knowing how to spell Semitic is a big enough no-no to get thrown out of the nazi movement.

            P.P.S. Your writing style reminds me of an old poster who lived in California. Is that you, A?

        • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 6:26 pm #

          that’s all they got

          without that there’s nothing for them

          their long emergency is long over

          it didn’t end well

          • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 7:12 pm #

            No excuse. Israel’s anti-Christian bigotry, brutal treatment of the Palestinians, and malevolent misuse of America for whatever agenda they have, is morally worse than whatever the KKK was blamed for.

            The Klan arose to defend a beleaguered South from roving gangs of ex slaves and Jewish carpetbaggers. The Klan’s cause, during Reconstruction and up to WW1, was noble and should never be apologized for. They did what had to be done.

          • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 7:18 pm #

            Jim-hates,

            So you’re including your Reply in the “resource overshoot” category?

            (you replied to: “beantownbill.
            September 22, 2016 at 3:36 pm #
            What’s all this racist, anti-Semitic shit got to do with resource overshoot and the long emergency?”

          • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 7:57 pm #

            Dan, I simply asked beantown to make sure he looks both ways when making charges like he did.

            I never said I was restricting my comments to the forum author’s subject at hand. I’m just participating in the local conversation, wherever it’s going, and putting in my two cents.

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 8:35 am #

            one cent

        • Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 7:37 pm #

          Everything, Bill. Everything. You brought us down, you and your hyenas, I’ll give you that. But you think you can rule America without us? We are America. And as we go, it goes. And you goes too.

          Oh you think you can face the Hyenas and Orcs by yourselves? Dream on.

  144. messianicdruid September 22, 2016 at 5:00 pm #

    I found this article very interesting, because it is another indication how the term “Jubilee” is now becoming more mainstream than ever. This is an article from the Business Section of the UK’s The Telegraph.

    “The third leg of the world’s intractable depression is yet to come. If trade economists at the United Nations are right, the next traumatic episode may entail the greatest debt jubilee in history.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/21/un-fears-third-leg-of-the-global-financial-crisis-with-epic-debt/

    Let’s do it tomorrow!

    • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 6:32 pm #

      Let the Jubilee start with a repudiation of ALL claims by the billionaires!

      Whatever rent collecting schemes they have, or claims on wealth that demand performance from the victims, let those instruments be the first to be shredded.

      The best way to secure the social fabric through this Jubilee, is to issue Allodial Titles to all property owners with real estate values under $250K. To compensate for what the Super Rich stole via 35 years of Reaganomics, the poor and working class homeowners can claim what I’d call, “Equalization Bonds.”

      The Equalization Bonds will be claims on the assets of the Top 1%. Restoring the old 95% top tax rate will encourage them to liquidate those assets, which will be put into the Bond Fund. The size of the Bond each homeowner gets will be Means Tested and scaled along the lines of income and property. It won’t be a straight line since those at the bottom have little or no potential to contribute to the rebuilding of society with the money they receive. The curve will resemble what the Earned Income Tax Credit already allows for. Which means the Working Class and lower salaried classes will get the biggest boost.

      Of course, to prevent a massive run on the Bond Fund before it’s ready, the Bond will be made to accrue 3% annually if the holder delays in cashing it. It should be an absolute DECREE that those bonds are TAX EXEMPT, regardless of whether its cashed immediately or cashed later.

      There are details that can be hashed out but, this Jubilee will create unbelievable chaos, rather than liberation. Allodial Title and Equalization Bonds will provide a solid shield to the social fabric by GUARANTEEING the right to ones shelter or home over all claims whatsoever.

      • dannyboy September 22, 2016 at 7:20 pm #

        you want government support? Welfare?

        • beantownbill. September 22, 2016 at 7:37 pm #

          It ain’t called National SOCIALISM for nothing.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 22, 2016 at 7:42 pm #

            You were before it before – as long as it hurt us that is. Trump is going to make it serve real Americans and not third world boat people and wet backs.

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 8:41 am #

            Janos

            I understand you hopes and dreams (although I can never figure out why you never attempted to have a fulfilling life on your own steam), but need to help you by explaining Trump to you (your misconceptions about Trump are noteworthy).

            Trump will not give you something that he takes away from some “third world boat people and wet backs”. They got nothing to give.

            Trump will make you their replacement. Welcome to Trump America, wetback.

        • JimInFlorida September 22, 2016 at 7:46 pm #

          Of course, you reach into your bottomless bag of snarks and pop one onto CFN. Charging “Welfare” is a lame Straw Man but, I don’t expect much from you.

          I did explicitly say that there are details to be hashed out. My proposal would require a vast amount of verbiage to cover all aspects but, nobody would read such a bloated comment. So, I left a lot of things open.

          • messianicdruid September 22, 2016 at 8:52 pm #

            The land is to be divided and never sold.

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 9:28 am #

            ” I don’t expect much from you.” – JimHatesWherever

            it appears that you don’t get much out of my remarks, so the best advice i can offer is to skip over them.

          • JimInFlorida September 23, 2016 at 4:16 pm #

            I guess, “Allodial Title,” went over Dan’s head. Including WHY it would be awarded, to whom, and under what conditions.

            I actually brought up LEGITIMATE reparations, too, in the form of Equalization Bonds! My proposal isn’t just another Soak The Rich gimmick but, batten down the hatches and secure the social fabric before the Debt Jubilee is unleashed.

            All Dan and bean can do is belch up tired buzzwords.

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 5:07 pm #

            JimHatesEverythingButWantsFreeShit,

            You really believe that you can possibly discredit my sound comment by inferring that I wouldn’t know the meaning of a Financial Term?

            better that you skip reading my comments, as i suggested some time ago

  145. messianicdruid September 22, 2016 at 9:03 pm #

    “P.S. For a hater, not knowing how to spell Semitic is a big enough no-no to get thrown out of the nazi movement.”

    The correct spelling would include an “h” [ Shem ], but this had to be hidden because then it would apply to many more than it is made to pertain by the victim class.

    • malthuss September 23, 2016 at 12:34 am #

      Victim class.

      CLASSic.

      • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 9:30 am #

        Amazing use of the English language.

        more evidence of your superiority

        • malthuss September 23, 2016 at 10:09 am #

          Superior to what or whom?

          • dannyboy September 23, 2016 at 10:28 am #

            Your fellow Man:

            start with “Puerto Ricans are heavily Hutu. And PRs act like Blacks. IQs similar—85 = mentally retarded.
            .And PRs act like Blacks [violent, anti social, lazy].
            There is evidence of this across many communities in NY and elsewhere.
            Puerto Ricans from NYC, Philadelphia etc.have destroyed traditional White working class towns.” – malthuss

            you know, because i wrote it on this page, that i dated and had beautiful feelings for a young Puerto Rican woman. Could you be more insulting?

  146. barbisbest September 22, 2016 at 10:55 pm #

    A really good post in a myriad of ways. A sweetness. Innocence.. I think sir, to me, even now when it doesn’t matter who’s elected, it does matter!! Because you see, I’d rather go down with the democrats. As nasty as they are. Yes j h k s most loyal readers post here regularly. Quite an assortment of personalities and viewpoints. Fascinating. I like the part above where someone says j h k is part of the elite. May be so. Best as e’ er. Lovely fall………………………….ya. “Utopia would have many people on bicycle.” h.g. wells. What a dude. Sent from my stupid phone.

  147. Pucker September 22, 2016 at 11:22 pm #

    Why did black teenagers loot the NASCAR museum in Charlotte? That’d be the last place that I’d break into.

    • Pucker September 22, 2016 at 11:24 pm #