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Is there a more preposterous notion warbled across this troubled nation than the campaign mantra that “Joe Biden,” and the claque concealed behind him, are defending our democracy? What could be more self-evidently untrue?
Is censorship and abridging the First Amendment democratic? They haven’t been trying to finesse their ongoing assault on free speech. They abhor diversity of opinion, especially when it conflicts with their obvious efforts to wreck the country. Is siccing the dogs of the FBI and jailing their opponents outside due process of law democratic? Is ballot fraud democratic? Forced “vaccination”? I could go on (and often do), but you know exactly what they are doing: lying incessantly about everything, shoving lunatic narratives down your throat, turning reality inside-out and upside-down, and blowing up what’s left of American culture and economic life.
If what they’re doing is obvious, why they’re doing it isn’t. I have only two theories: Either 1) the Party of Chaos is acting in the interests of sinister forces outside our polity; or 2) They’re so far gone ethically and so deep in criminality carried out by so many persons and agencies in their service, that everything you see them do now is some attempt to cover-up their crimes or distract from their discovery.
The correct answer is probably both. One way or another, Davos money and influence worms its way through US institutions and works its wicked will, chewing up the structural supports of daily life. One obvious agent is George Soros, whose many NGOs operate at the fine-grained local level to elect district attorneys who won’t enforce the criminal statutes and state secretaries of state who won’t enforce election laws. Mr. Soros is also deeply implicated, through his Atlantic Council org, in the years-long program to destabilize Ukraine and light the fire for a completely avoidable world war. At least part of the time, George Soros lives in the US. Why his activities are not under investigation by the US Department of Justice probably answers your questions about his hidden influence at the higher levels of government.
Bill Gates, the Microsoft tycoon, circulates at the center of the evil nexus where US public health shakes hands with the drug companies. His money appears to be entangled in the biolab projects around the world engaged in weaponizing disease and then profiting from alleged “vaccines” to defeat it. The Covid-19 project went badly awry, especially the “vaccine” part. He’s been vocal about reducing the world’s population and now appears to have succeeded in helping to prompt a weird medical genocide.
Other supporting outside players range from the barely plausible Klaus Schwab and his World Economic Forum, which has implanted leaders and managers all over Western Civ inculcated in his Great Reset effort to wreck what’s left of industrial society and its cultural armature; to shadowy figures in European banking chattered about but never identified; to the CCP, which has gotten huge benefits from its relatively penny-ante investments in the Biden Family.
On the domestic scene, where covering-up skeins of manifold crimes sets the political tone, Christopher Wray of the FBI must lead the pack of paper-hangers. Under his leadership, beginning in 2017, the agency carried out most of its RussiaGate crimes against a sitting president and did absolutely nothing to investigate the blatant ballot fraud of 2020 that sealed the deal. Even under the shelter of “Joe Biden,” who Mr. Wray helped elect, and the stooge AG, Merrick Garland, damning information about FBI crimes continues to leak out of the woodwork via whistleblowers, while the agency behaves more and more like an American Gestapo.
All that desperation probably signals the chilling fear that a new Congress will start seriously asking questions about all this misconduct that could eventually lead to the right people going to jail. Special Counsel John Durham failed to gain convictions in this year’s trials of small-timers Sussmann and Danchenko, but he did manage to make public many salient original sins of the RussiaGate op in the process and, though 99.9 percent of observers think he’s done, I’d be willing to bet that more will be heard from Mr. Durham after the election, and not just some jive “report.”
Similarly in US public health, where the central figure in the Covid disaster, Dr. Anthony Fauci, seems to think that retirement will erect an invisible shield from prosecution around him — if he lives long enough. Dr. Fauci’s agile avoidance of giving testimony under oath may be at an end as Federal Judge Terry Doughty has compelled him to be deposed in the joint Missouri-Louisiana lawsuit alleging collusion between the government and tech companies in censoring free speech related to Covid and the “vaccines.”
Rochelle Walensky of the CDC has gone-to-ground for more than a week before the election while reports pile up of soaring all-causes deaths implicating the mRNA shots. Former NIH director Francis Collins lays low, Dr. Ralph Baric is bunkered-in and silent at the University of North Carolina, and scores of other high-up employees present-and-former at CDC, FDA, and other public health agencies must be nervous, if Congress flips, about having to account for what they did to their country. If it does flip….
And so, the midterm election plods to a climax on elephant feet. The shift in sentiment is palpable. Under normal circumstances, the prodigious, naked dishonesty of the Democratic Party of Chaos, and its many gratuitous insults to the voting public — such as the past year’s barrage of drag queen story hours — would lead to an extinction event for the Dems. Their desperation must be such that they will try anything now to stave off an election disaster, including any-and-all forms of ballot fraud. Look to the usual places: Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona.
This time, of course, many observers are watching and they’ll know what to look for. The result could easily be an election the outcome of which won’t be accepted by either party, sparking an invitation to broad civil disorder. I’m not much of a praying man, but tomorrow I’ll get down on my knees for a few words with The Manager.
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I DEMAND an end to DERIVATIVE Securities, and a return to a sane metric of one dollar of equity equals one dollar of capital.
“Davos money and influence worms its way through US institutions and works its wicked will, chewing up the structural supports of daily life. One obvious agent is George Soros”
When individuals became more wealthy than nations, nations became vulnerable to their personal, criminal endeavors. DERIVATIVE securities are money for nothing and checks for free.
They facilitate the creation of wealth via thin air, and their use has been weaponized since the seventies to take the wealth of sovereign countries, leaving them as vassals to the empire.
End DERIVATIVES, level the playing field.
VOTE TOMORROW. Make it hard for them to cheat.
#FJB
Yes, we have to continue to vote regardless of whether the winners are dialed in by them or not. But more importantly, we must demand peace and negotiation as a primary solution to world problems, and NOT kill ’em all and let God sort ’em out for profit. It should terrify every American to see that both parties clamor for more war and death just so that a bunch of richer-than-shit assholes can afford the deviant lifestyles that they so love.
In the old days parents used to care about not seeing their sons and daughters sent off to kill political enemies in other countries for MIC profit, but today they don’t seem to give a shit as long as they don’t have to do the fighting themselves. At the rate we are going, everyone is going to wind up fighting, and for their own lives. Can’t wait to see how that turns out.
Give ’em a fair trial, then hang ‘em…
God, we really need Van Helsings to work our hosts list. screw the show trials and lets get it on !
Hanging is too quick and easy for these treasonous bastards.
Garroting, anyone?
Make em live with Hillary for a year.
What I don’t understand is when they tell us that Biden is insisting that Ukraine fight to the last Ukrainian because it gets Americans to vote for his party.
Say what? Are Americans that evil and blood-thirsty? Gross!
Or is that just the cover story? I know the real reason they want to empty Ukraine of Ukrainians – it’s easier for Monsanto, Cargill and AG to steal the land when the people are gone.
Maybe the story that Americans are blood-thirsty ghouls is just the excuse, the way they make up reasons why the stock market goes up and down.
“Stocks fall on news that buses were running late in Pittsburgh today”.
Ukraine is the poster child for mob run corruption.
The country runs on drugs, selling their daughters into prostitution, black market weapons sales and the Bidens are up their eyeballs in it all.
Grifters got to grift and use taxpayer money and military might to protect it.
Yeah, I know that is a part of it. Ukraine shows what happens when a country is run by criminals and there isn’t enough money flowing to keep ordinary people fed. Everybody turns to crime.
But the part I was objecting to is when they tell us that Americans vote for war.
Your comment, benr, also makes perfect sense if you sub in “America” for “Ukraine.” Every effing thing is but another effing racket in America.
Just sayin’.
In operant conditioning, two variables are associated, such that the prior conditioning for a can then be transferred to b.
Why waste time and money making war movies about Russians when they can be made into Nazis in the popular mind by a bit of sleigh of hand as it were?
A subject can also be reduced to absolute helplessness, like say a dog who has given up even trying to avoid getting shocked because nothing it does works. That’s where we are now with people actually rooting for the faux Nazis of Ukraine as “our boys”.
I believe that part of the plan Paula, is to show the rest of the world how outright evil and demonic Americ is so that they all turn against us and applaud the CCP take-over. Even if a majority of Americans are not in agreement with the demonic agenda, the media and our leadership control the outward appearance and enforce the idea that we are demonic as a nation.
And, of course, you have to admit that we’re not really putting up much of a stick about it, are we? Yes, us here, but not out there.
Well, yeah, our rulers are making the case for them and have been for decades.
The body count is in the millions, and then there are the assassinations, the coups, the bombings, the destroyed countries, the lootings…..it’s easy to make the case. And it does look like there are more and more countries willing to stand up and tell the US to fuck off.
Part of the process is that the open criminality we were talking about now extends to looting other governments. The US has openly stolen Venezuela, Afghanistan and now Russia’s sovereign funds. What rational country would still think it is safe to invest their sovereign funds in US banks? (I think technically that it is Germany who is stealing Russia’s $350 billion, but Germany is completely under the thumb of US criminals. They aren’t even complaining about the blown-up pipelines! That is craven.)
FYI, it’s actually the CPC, not the CCP. The name is the Communist Party of China.
You are correct on the first part. The overuse of sanctions and war has destroyed all creditability of the US, but who is going to back a CCP take over? Bankers?
Paula wants a Russian Communist takeover. Alas, they aren’t in power anymore, Putin is.
No one wants to take over this country. It’s worse than Ukraine.
Who wants a bankrupt country filled with drug-addled overweight dumbasses with a huge sense of entitlement?
I don’t believe that either China or Russia wants anything to do with us.
Their plan is to back away slowly and hope our insane overlords don’t blow up the world on their way down.
I have a friend who carries on and on about all these lazy union workers wanting too much, and BLM and Antifa being awful people. He of course would rather die than vote for any Republican because “the Democrats are the friends of the people, not selfish assholes trying to screw over everyone like all you goddamn Republicans.” Biden, Obama and the Clinton’s are good, Trump is worse than Hitler, and Trump voters are merely members of America’s sturmabteilung who need to be stripped of their rights and their freedom. At least he, unlike a grad school prof I endured, doesn’t want all Republicans to be sent off to Auschwitz-style death camps. But this non-thinking “deep thinking” is what confronts everyone who wants America to thrive and become a great place to live again.
“Educated fools from uneducated schools.”-Curtis Mayfield
“richer-than-shit assholes can afford the deviant lifestyles”
Walter,
…A good job, if you can get it. It has been suggested, by some church leaders, that you have to know sin to fight sin. Sooo…if I win the lottery, I’m gonna get schooled.
You don’t seem like the type to drink baby’s blood though.
“to drink baby’s blood”
Paula,
Is that a thing? I would drink single malt scotch,, and $200+ bottles of Chianti, but…Where does it say in the bible that drinking baby blood is a sin?
Parents sometimes eat placenta*.
You might look this up.
*I eat raw oysters, but that is where I draw the line….
I’m no biblical scholar, but I’m pretty sure the Bible doesn’t forbid alcohol.
Heck, one of the main characters turned water into wine.
Drinking blood was enumerated as a sin in Leviticus and Deuteronomy; thus Dracula’s actions are more heinous than an average deflowerer of virgins.
@ elysianfield:
The Bible does specifically forbid consuming blood–i.e., eating meat with the blood still in it:
Leviticus 17:13-14 King James Version 13 And whatsoever man there be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust.
Also, The Jerusalem Council, formed by the apostles under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, decreed that gentiles should “abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality” (Acts 15:29).”
Josephus, speaking as a Jew of the 1st century A.D., recorded that “blood of any description he [Moses] has forbidden to be used for food, regarding it as the soul and spirit” (Antiquities iii. 11. 2 [260]; Loeb ed., vol. 4, p. 443).
Meat with blood was also prohibited by the Eastern Christian Church: “If any bishop, or presbyter, or deacon, or indeed any one of the sacerdotal catalogue, eats flesh with the blood of its life, or that which is torn by beast, or which died of itself, let him be deprived; for this the law has forbidden. But if he be one of the laity, let him be suspended” (Apostolic Canon 63; ANF, vol. 7, p. 504).
I have omitted several other examples from this link, which it appears I can’t post.
I hate to be cynical, but it also helps that the life insurance is up to probably $300,000 now. It was $250,000 when I was in.
Yes indeed, voting is especially important in State races where we can actually get things done…In AZ, where Kari Lake has advocated closing the border, and is far ahead in the polls, there will be a particularly intense attempt at vote fraud, particularly in Maricopa county, home of the McCain machine…
Sadly here in Georgia, again we have a choice between bad and worse, with Bryan Kemp and Stacy Abrams. Neither one is acceptable. Herschel Walker for the senate was the deal breaker for me. Voting is pointless.
So, how come Kemp defeated Perdue “in a landslide” in the primaries? I don’t understand it. Trump endorsed Perdue: was that the reason? Do Arizona Republicans dislike Trump? Goodness.
Perdue was never a Maga man though I will admit to voting for him. I think it comes down to whether you hated Kemp because of his election shenanigans or loved him because of his handling of covid. Most older folks voted for Perdue I think.
Better Walker than Warnock, who’s devoted to the WEF shit.
There was a lot of gloating on CNN this morning, which leads one to think that there were a lot of irregularities in the voting process. The Gatekeepers breathed a collective sigh of relief, even though ballots are still being counted, Was the election was already “in the bag” before the first ballots were counted? Will the Republicans pick up one extra seat in the senate and initiate the impeachment hearings in January, Thier has been a lot of talk on this side of the border of dark money influencing the results of Canada’s 2021 election and a promise by the Conservative party to get to the bottom of it. Could dark money be behind the better than anticipated results of Democrat candidates last night?
As a former resident of Arizona, I can attest to your being correct. The dominant newspaper, The Arizona Republic, is so far to the left that they compete with Pravda in their lies, as well as support actual fraud in on behalf of the Demoncraps. During the 2020 election cycle, signs for China Joe were virtually non-existent, while those for President Trump were everywhere, and he had a huge lead when we all went to bed late election night. Quite a shock when we were advised that China Joe had won, which was a virtual impossibility based on ongoing interview and reports. Does anyone but me remember Biden saying that they were going to, or had done so, pull of the biggest fraud of all time. Seems to be a deleted quote.
A retired newsman friend said he saw thousands of votes disappear from Trump’s rallies in several states; one state’s counts changed in the time it took the crawl to make it across the bottom of the screen. The same thing happened during the Georgia Senate runoffs. I have no reason to doubt what he told me. And remember, there allegedly was a shouting match between John Roberts on one side, and Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas on the other, over whether the Supreme Court should hear arguments from Trump’s lawyers. Robert’s allegedly argued that the Justices couldn’t hear the arguments because, judging by the Antifa and BLM riots, all their lives would be put in jeopardy. Robert’s won. Nothing like nutless wonders in high office.
Keep voting for those elected representatives!
Yes, I remember that. I saw the video. They tried to say that the remark was taken out of context, but it wasn’t. It was a stand-alone comment. He said he thought they had put together the most comprehensive or extensive voter fraud system in the United States. And I don’t think it was a case of misspeaking.
Agree: Derivatives. But Republicans have gotten just as rich off them as the Democrats, so I don’t see what good voting will do.
Excellent comment though. Individuals most certainly should not be more wealthy than nations, for obvious reasons.
Didn’t Soros crash the British pound, back in the day?
Is he allowed in the UK? I would think not.
He is not allowed in Russia or Thailand either.
Not sure why one of these other nations has not spirited the evil little prick back to their respective country to stand trial for crimes against the country.
I believe Indonesia has a “kill on sight” order against Herr Schwartz, er Soros.
He’s just the tip of the spear for the Rothschilds – so of course he is allowed in the UK which is run by them.
The City of London within London is all that matters.
Soros is a piker, he cant print money out of thin air. All that free money in derivatives being made has to come from somewhere. Where? Two thousand trillion dollars worth of bets on an 80 trillion worldwide GDP. LOL, LMAO !!! Who owns the central banks, and there is who you need to go after. Or, better yet, we bring back sound money…
Logic is great stuff. His job is to be the monster, taking all the attention away from those who fund him.
Humans are so mentally weak, so easily manipulated…..
Spot on. The real sociopaths are wealthy beyond imagination, powerful, and most importantly, anonymous even to many, even most, of their high-ranking stooges.whose primary purpose is to draw fire.It’s obvious to those who actually use logic in their thinking. Take Soros, for example. How exactly was he able to amass a fortune given his background? Oh, I know, lots of chutzpah and lots of smarts. And lots of help too. From whom?
In youth, the German National Socialist Workers’ Party.
I wonder if he still favors earth tones, especially shades of brown?
neurotypical humans are indeed
“Two thousand trillion dollars worth of bets on an 80 trillion worldwide….”
What happens when that shit unwinds? Could be that concern about that is one of his motives.
It doesn’t matter if DC flips to the right. The GOP is just as deep into this shit as the dims. They will do nothing of consequence. Get ready.
They have been pushing the pendulum to the left about as far as it will go. Now it will be pushed right.
How else to get people clamouring for the antichrist [ in-place-of-christ ] ? “We need a saviour”.
The last time I watched MSNBC was election night 2016. Maybe saw bits and pieces of the skullduggery on election night 2020.
Tomorrow I will check out MSNBC just to watch their heads explode as (hopefully) the Red Wave overwhelms all of them.
long as the pipe doesnt break at midnight
“I’m not much of a praying man, but tomorrow I’ll get down on my knees for a few words with The Manager.”
That’s golden. I’ll have to remember that one!
Tomorrow will be interesting, for sure.
Tractorguy
The Manager is the babe in the manger. Will you slay him as Herod tried to do?
NPR just broadcast an abortion live on air. The talking skull commented that the way the nurse was talking the patient through it sounded just a like a child birth.
Actually, he is the owner. The managers are still in training.
Your covert denial of the Trinity is noted. You are spiritual Semite. Allahu Akbar!
You and your orthodox shit.
NPR JUST BROADCAST AN ABORTION LIVE ON AIR
I caught the intro to that the other night.
These people are utterly vile.
These people are filth.
Mary is in favor of abortion.
In the end, it all comes down to Good against Evil and as long as far too many Americans replace God with money, they will continue to degrade, be owned, and eventually be enslaved by those that can create the controlling mechanism out of thin air.
You agree to hold up your commitments. They write commitments in language that easily allows them to change the terms. The dollar will be replaced by a digital dollar that loses value if not spent.
Local currencies might help. Instead, we will get the conundrum of recent times: more and more people with seemingly no method of support in the official economy.
I once saw a TV show where a hypnotist went into a shop and talked the proprietor into a receptive state of mind. He then paid for his purchase with white pieces of paper cut to the size of currency. The proprietor in his mind saw legally tender currency.
Of course, it went unstated that the big joke is on the audience. We see pieces of paper and imagine them valuable.
My dad worked in the company store of a coal camp when he was a teenager.
When the coal miners ran out of money they would write an IOU on a piece of paper.
It blew my dad’s mind that scrip would buy as much as government issued money.
He developed a lifelong interest in money creation from that experience.
All money is created by debt in this country. If you cancelled the debt you would cancel the money supply, as Jackson found out, and the entire economy would collapse.
You can’t have a market economy without circulating cash, but you can’t keep a debt-based system going forever, because eventually you can’t issue enough money to pay the interest AND keep the goods and services flowing.
And that is where we are now. They have been pumping in money to keep the food and energy flowing, so that people can eat and stay warm, but they seem to be getting ready to pull the plug.
None of us have ever been through the kind of crash that our ancestors suffered through regularly, so most people can’t picture it.
They keep insisting that we don’t need money to keep the goods flowing, we can just barter or something.
Yeah….no.
at its founding, jefferson wanted the country’s money supply tied to the the land area, with a fixed relationship between the two.
the story of his battle with hamilton and his coterie is the stuff of legends.
i had no idea, when i first read that in my late 30’s, what the hell jefferson had in mind.
that most people do not to this day means that jefferson’s notion was meritless, that it was poorly explained, or that the opposition managed to and continues to own the field.
all this is simple enough that i have explained it to a class of 8th graders.
henry ford also said if the people of this country understood money and banking as it is practiced, there would be a revolution before morning.
they both must be spinning in their graves.
He was right. The land in an arable condo my is production. You keep the amount of dollars equivalent to production, inflation will not occur.
I amazes me that the current administration has forgotten this and just rolls the presses and sends production over seas. Double jeopardy.
You can’t keep the dollar supply limited in a debt-base system, John, that is the point.
The dollar supply has to continually inflate in order to pay off the interest.
pd – which results in wealth being concentrated in the hands of debt issuers.
“Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits.” – Sir Josiah Stamp, President of the Bank of England in the 1920’s, the second richest man in Britain
Indeed, justanotherguy, just like the game of Monopoly teaches us.
Too bad no one seems to learn.
pole dancing their staked hearts
“The Bankers own the Earth.”
No. The Creator owns the earth. Anything else is pretending.
“The land is to be divided and never sold”. Until we get this right nothing will change [ all wealth comes from the land ].
@ messianicdruid:
Henry George made this case very well, back in the 1800s. (Suggested reading for those who are interested in fundamental economics: “Progress and Poverty.”)
One of the things that Nock pointed out is that land ownership in the US (and almost everywhere else) confers two distinct monopolies: use value and rent value. Use value is the wealth produced by the land through labor (labor-made property). Rent value is the power to profit from land ownership through means other than labor (law-made property). One of these is to charge rent for the use of it. Another is by means of the speculative increase in the value of the land; e.g., to sell it for a profit. The increase in the value of land is not produced by the labor of the owner, but by its proximity to industrious and flourishing communities. Thus, the owner is profiting from the labor of others.
One system for preventing land monopoly was the Old Testament method. Land could not be permanently sold. At the end of 50 years, at the time of the jubilee, all land reverted to its original owners. This prevented permanent alienation from the land.
Henry George’s idea was that rent values should be confiscated through taxation, thus preventing landowners from profiting from ownership by any other means than their labor products. Obviously, this presupposes that you have an honest government, so I don’t see how it could work in practice.
@Anthea – thank you for not capitalizing and making two words out of my handle.
Also for the book suggestion.
There is so much land controlled by DC it is obscene.
godskingdom.org/blog/2018/08/gods-labor-laws-part-6
“Progress and Poverty” is considered a classic on fundamental economics. The quality of the writing is ne plus ultra–sumptuous, exquisite–just a delight. Nock writings are the same way. Besides “Our Enemy, the State,” I would suggest “Memoirs of a Superfluous Man” and his many essays.
Nock was a bit of a misogynist, though he never spoke of whatever it was that set him off. (He was married, divorced, and had a son.) His detractors like to say that he was antisemitic, but that’s because of one or two mildly unflattering comments about Jews. If I remember right, he said something about them being an Oriental people who didn’t fit in well in the US–or something kind of like that. The main reason that he has detractors sifting through his writings looking for some faint semblance of antisemitism is because he was an old-school conservative. HATED Roosevelt. Much more internally consistent in his views than Ayn Rand (who, IMHO, was all over the place). Also extremely witty.
I especialy like the line in “Memoirs” where he mentions being aided by “an unscrupulous Providence.”
Oh, and you’d like one of the poems (from India) quoted by Henry George:
“White parasols
And elephants mad with pride
Are the flowers
Of a grant of land.”
Thanks Anthea – lots of good insight. I’ve read some Nock but George is new to me. Anything from that time period should be untouched by subterfuge.
Money etc. is a difficult subject [ on purpose ] especially when words are misused:
“Lawful wealth is created by labor; usury gives the wealthy an unfair advantage over the poor. Usury does not create wealth; usury simply takes a portion of the wealth that others are creating through their labor. In other words, while labor itself increases the total amount of wealth in the world, usury simply shifts existing wealth from the laborer to the non-laborer. Hence, over time the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.”
Confusing Interest with Usury is a tool.
The only difference is ink.
Faith in the value of the dollar is what separates good times from Depressions.
But faith in a fraud is no way to live.
As is faith in gold and silver. What if you lose a war and all your reserves are stolen as the vicious Allies did to the Germans after WW1?
But the Germans found faith in a Man and the system he and his men built. And thus? Thus the economic miracle of Nazi Germany. Workers had it better than ever before, with even manual laborers being encouraged to take vacations.
This shit had to be stopped. It was – by the people Americans support to this day.
“… the Germans found faith in a Man and the system he and his men built. And thus?”
Misplaced faith, despite economic success.
Their economic miracle didn’t allow them to build tanks as fast as the US. unfortunately for them. They had a government bureaucrat controlling every factory.
People go to hear the loved music stars of their youths. A time machine! They don’t hear the actual show and how the singer can’t hit the notes anymore.
When Trump announced his presidential run, I reacted like everyone else: “What an idiot! How is this Studio 54 buffoon going to get elected and run the country?”
I happened to watch an interview that was longer than one of the 30 second out-of-context sound bites going around and I realized that the guy was pretty canny and could address many of the concerns I had for the future of our country-mainly draining the Swamp.
I REALIZED I HAD BEEN SUBCONSCIOUSLY PROGRAMMED BY THE MEDIA OVER THE COURSE OF 20+ YEARS TO NOT TAKE TRUMP SERIOUSLY!
This is mass hypnosis in its highest form!
I see the same programming in smart people I know, who assure me that Trump is the lowliest scumbag that ever existed, that he is crooked as s dog’s hind leg, he never paid anyone that worked for him, he bribed every building official in NY, he is a racist who hates black people and that I must be stupid or brain-damaged not to see it.
I’ve been trying to stay even-handed about all this. I am aware of the possibility that I might l be in my own “echo chamber” and under the spell of the Alternative Conspiracy Theorists etc. My lawyer is concerned and cautions me that I am being duped by right wing disinformation and lectures me on the echo chamber effect. Apparently he has not applied the concept to his own programming.
So it is with much relief that I read this column every week and can assure myself that either:
Jim is as deluded as I am or we’re not crazy at all…
The “You’re Fired” show gave a lot of the American public more than enough reason to hate him, for after all, how many people enjoy being fired? He should have called the show, “You’re Hired” IMHO.
All in all, he certainly made enough verbal blunders to add to that bad rap, but clearly, he was one of the most competent presidents we have had in a long while.
Too bad the American public has turned elections into popularity contests rather than job interviews.
wb – with respect, the american public, outside of its constant bernays therapy, would have little idea what to believe.
but its not the american public that did it to themselves. take a look at any webster blue reader from the 19th century. the notion of a well educated individual looked very different then.
I never knew anything about Trump except that he was rich and had a reality TV show where he fired people.
Those two facts would ordinarily be enough to make me dislike him.
But the full-court campaign against him in 2016 make me think “He must be OK or they wouldn’t hate him so much”.
And there was nothing he did as president that made me change my mind, except the murder of Solemaini and the others at the airport.
And I don’t think he actually OK’d that. I think that was Bolton’s doing.
His flaw is that he thinks he can bring people like Bolton around.
Yes, your likes and dislikes are disordered.
It’s good you realized that, even if only in regards to Trump and not in regards to everything.
Solemaini had a very noble face. I don’t know anymore about him, but I know that.
Biden said the other day that we’re going to free Iran soon. Karine Joh Pierre. said we will support the Iranian People freeing themselves. Another color revolution on the menu?
There is already another color revolution in full swing.
It’s all about the women, doncha know?
The US is SO concerned about the women in Iran that they are supporting rioting in the streets.
Not a peep about the women in Saudi Arabia though.
Yet.
But Saudi Arabia turning away from the petrodollar is sure to bring on sudden and deep concern about the well-being of women and gays there.
And once the Mighty Wurlitzer starts to play its song, watch as Americans dance obediently to its tune.
Not a peep about the women being beat up at speaker’s corners around the US.
this country now exists under 2 mutually exclusive world views, each complete and satisfying to its adherents.
the major distinction, besides neither being completely free of manipulation by shadowy powers, is that one is reality based, with a notion of fixed morals and consistent human nature.
the other is aspirational, believing that with no fixed morals, humanity is free to re-design itself, that every one is a blank slate, and that the highest calling is to participate in the ‘governance’ of all of humanity to its over-studied version of utopia.
if the utopians succeed, we will either have never ending violence against the individual by the state, or a downward slope of disorder and hopeless poverty. the end result: morlocks vs. eloi
if reality based worldview succeeds, it promises all of us nothing but a continued (forever) battle of vigilance for freedom, with individuals remembering when necessary how to come together in common interest, and that its worth the effort so as to not see our children in chains.
One
Now a few million more.
Speaking of crazy, that Kanye West/Harley Pasternak story has become so bizarre and unbelievable, it has to be true.
You can’t make this stuff up.
https://twitter.com/restoreorderusa/status/1588556212102082560?s=20&t=Ac_DeZHtz0lwW08_TpuyRg
As a retired trial attorney, I would advise you to ignore your lawyer’s advice, as most lawyers are now firmly in the leftist camp, and the reasons are simple. First, the Demoncraps give the bar everything they want in legal rights to make more and more money, and the bar responds with campaign donations almost solely to the Demoncraps. Secondly, law schools, in case you have not noticed, have swung left as more and more professors, like the undergrad schools, are confirmed leftists, if not marxists. The American Bar Association and the Attorneys for Justice, formerly the American Trial Lawyers Assn., are as woke as the majority of our college campuses. No, you are not crazy, but the machinations of the Demoncraps/marxists are truly designed to make you crazy or destroy you as a free-thinking citizen.
attorn – intransitive verb [ root of attorney ]
1. To recognize or bring about a transfer, especially of property.
2. To transfer (something) to another.
3.To turn, or transfer homage and service, from one lord to another. This is the act of feudatories, vassals, or tenants, upon the alienation of the estate.
They are Officers of the Court
Yeah, at first, I thought the same thing, but then I thought, you know, isn’t that what the presidency is all about, someone from “the people” who wants a shot at addressing the problems that plague us as a nation. So give him a shot. And you know what? He got gas prices down to $2 or less a gallon, he got Kim Jong Un to stand down, he got us out of the Paris climate accords and the Kyoto protocol, he forced other nations to pay “their fair share” in NATO, he addressed our southern border insecurity. They hated him because he cost them 4 years. Because judgment is at an appointed time, and just because they lost 4 years under Trump doesn’t mean they get 4 years added to the timetable. It means they’re 4 years closer to judgment and 4 years behind their timetable. So it doesn’t surprise me that they’re going at warp speed implementing their plans.
Alfred,
Ending mortgages too?
Aren’t mortgages collateralized loans?
The Dems should drill down on Oil, and stop drilling down on lies. But they won’t, unless they start getting shellacked.
want do you mean? drill for more oil?
It’s Magical Thinking.
Exactly Paula – fantastical thinking, born of fantasy.
Yes. We should drill for more oil.
The rot is at every level local, state and federal.
The foundation is full of progressive termites and worms eating away at the fabric of our Representative Republic.
A simple election won’t fix what is ailing this great nation.
The repair requires doing to the progressives what they have done to our society.
Starting when the children are very young and educating them on life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness with a healthy dose of respect for others and moral values.
The value systems must be installed early and reinforced with a system of just laws and actual news delivered with zero bias.
An actual proper civics class with a heaping helping Government, Constitution and bill of rights.
I have some faith this can be done because when I started reading this blog, I read it to read a sane person with many opposing views.
While we still might have some opposing views.
I have not read anything here from you in several years that I did not already believe or come to agree with.
Yes benr, the stench of corruption even exists at the small, local levels as well. Trust me, I know and fight it still.
You’re a good man Walter keep up the fight.
The reason we find it so hard to fight progressives is that they do have something we don’t have: the deep seated desire to impose their will on others and pull them into their fantasy world. It’s what drives them at every moment of their lives, and what gives them the patience to keep pushing at every boundary, at every moment, no matter where they are or what they are doing. They find a way to push their agenda any and everywhere, all the time. It’s what they are, and all they are, and they bring it to everything they do.
The rest of us have more than one facet. We just want to have and live our lives, and find this ideological obsessiveness an annoyance right up to the point where it completely overwhelms us. We dedicate our lives to many and varied interests and concerns – family, friends, hobbies, work, reading, making things, growing things. On the other hand, a person who is ideologically possessed has nothing else and is nothing else.
If you’ve ever had the misfortune to encounter a true fan, of something like Star Trek, you encounter this same pathetic and maddening phenomenon. It isn’t possible to talk to them because they have only a single lens through which to see the world. They bring every attempt at conversation back to what Kirk or Picard would do, or some other absurd irrelevancy. They dress up and pretend to be characters in a fantasy, they have no actual lives. It’s pitiful but also dangerous. Before the internet, these emotional dwarves could gather together a few times a year at best. Most of them still had to work. Social media has made it possible for them to band together in a way they never could before, and to act as a single unit, infesting entities of all kinds – churches, companies, schools – until they reach critical mass and can take over. The rest of us have actual lives, and resist dealing with them until we’re forced to.
progressive belief has become as all encompassing for them as wonder and faith in a universe built on higher consciousness has for many of us.
my own belief suffuses my every moment, and leads me to gratitude, reverence, joy and beauty.
if that were taken away, the hollow fear at one’s core would demand to be filled.
the progressives are at the ready, with their ever-changing manure pile of the latest thing, and a shove.
The Trekkies have some real competition in delusional behavior with the Hollywood types, people like Rob Reiner, Bill Maher and Michael Beschloss who went on TV and stated:
“MAGA Republicans” were threatening democracy — warning that if so-called GOP “election deniers” were successful in next week’s midterms “our children will be arrested and conceivably killed.” and then:
“We could be six days away from losing our rule of law and losing a situation where we have elections that we all can rely on. You know, those are the foundation stones of a democracy,” concurred Beschloss, the author of nine books on the American presidency. ”
Maher’s New Rules on Friday echoed the same pathetic, paranoid nonsense that democracy will be over if Republican on the ballot who question the 2020 election results are elected.
And these are the smart people. And what’s even more amazing is they all act like Biden is a fully functioning man who’s actually making decisions.
Reiner is an imbecile who might believe anything, but the other two are lying and they know it. These are cowardly, despicable human beings.
I think Reiner is actually nuts and no one has noticed.
Ordinary progressives have bought these notions and speak of violent fascist MAGA believers. It’s virtually a religion with them.
I love the idea of fighting fire with fire and educating children into support for liberty.
Every time Maher seems to be getting better, he reverts. Not uncommon.
On Maher:
It has to be remembered he was a constant visitor at Hefner’s parties. Good times and free pussy with no strings attached. He never married and has no children. His ‘spiritual’ belief system is strictly based on unbridled hedonism and narcissism.
At the same time, he’s smart enough to realize many of the hypocrisies of our times, hence his erratic alignments with the right, or against his version of the Deep State, on specific issues (Islam, stupid obese people, corporate kleptocracy, etc).
When push comes to shove, Maher reverts to bashing Christians (and therefore Republicans), since under their rule, Maher’s terrified the right, in power, will take away his freeform sex life and cult of the cool.
SF, spot on regarding Maher.
I also think he is a pedophile. He has made comments about love not being restricted by age, and, IIRC, his production company was called Kid Love Productions.
Democrats = popular vote – A Democracy
Republicans = electoral college – A Republic
The implementation of our polity is elegant and allows nuance to participate. Mob rule is a blunt force instrument.
Yes, but remember: They’ve made a whole culture with this as the backdrop. Protests aren’t some dreary time taken out of their lives – it’s a Party, it’s where you meet your future wife or husband.
If we could muster the social energy of any of these cults, we could free ourselves. Oh and btw and perhaps significantly, all of these scifi and fantasy cults and conventions? They are controlled by the Democratic mindset. You better keep any conservative ideas to yourself. It is the Master program and they are just sub-programs, so Rowdy’s idea is correct.
Us? My local Stop the Steal protest garnered a few hundred people most weeks. Perhaps once approaching a thousand. Why not tens of thousands?
We just don’t have what they have. Their religion is of this world. We want to go the game or some shit on our day off.
RP;
That was the most concise, truthful, and thoughtful description of progressives that I’ve heard in a long time. Kudos!
Deer dawson, in essence, the Progressives = the Borg.
Sorry, it had to be said.
Your description of Trekkies is apt, for a reason I’ll mention in a moment. FWIW, I preferred the original show to TNG and the other derivatives of Gene Roddenberry’s progressive utopian vision.
Gah! Damn autocorrect!
And I’ve already forgotten the first two words of my reply, so it’s about as muddled as the local news. /sigh
@uncle bob
First world problems are a real pita huh?
@ Walter B:
“the stench of corruption even exists at the small, local levels as well.”
Hoo, boy, does it!
Corruption at the city and county level was off the charts around here during the real estate boom leading up to 2008. The mayor, city council, and landowners’ association, and all their relatives and cronies were neck-deep in schemes to cheat people out of their property.
To give you an idea of the sheer nerve of some of these schemes: There was a young guy who was recently divorced and in need of a place to live, so his parents bought him a single-wide trailer on about an acre of land at the tax auction for about $2,000. It was a pretty decent place, quite liveable, which I knew because I went inside and looked around a couple of times.
Anyway, as soon as the young guy moved in, the town mayor went out to the trailer and tacked a condemnation notice on it. There had been no court proceeding. The mayor just printed a condemnation notice off of the city’s computer printer. Then the mayor sent the city cop over to arrest the young guy for living in a condemned property.
Unfortunately for the city, they tangled with the wrong guy. Turns out that his father was a lawyer for a labor union. When the city cop came around to arrest him, he noted that there had been no judicial proceeding to condemn the property and told the cop, “Go ahead and arrest me, if you’d like your ass in a sling.” The cop was well aware that the condemnation was…ahem…”extrajudicial,” so he backed off. The city cop came by my house about a week later to tell me his side of the story. He claimed that when the mayor ordered him to arrest the guy, he had inquired, “Isn’t there supposed to be a judge’s signature or something on here?” The mayor replied, “No, no. Just go arrest him.”
Afterwards, city officials and their cronies set about spying on the guy while he was fixing the place up, in hopes of giving him a ticket for a codes violation. So the guy contacted the county cops, who went down to city hall and told the city officials that they would be arrested for stalking, if they didn’t cease and desist on that shit.
The young guy lived there for a number of years after that, with no further trouble.
I could tell MANY more stories (some too complex to conciselly relate) of city government frauds, and, at the county level, bribery among lawyers and judges–which remains endemic, though the crooked real estate schemes came to a halt after 2008, and we got an honest city government.
Ha! The children are taken away from parents by TV and the cinema and the tablet they bought for them because their friends in school had some. It is becoming a question of how many people are normal and how many digital organization of influence they have setup as big as the NRA.
(organizations)
The outright hypocrisy on display all over!
msn.com/en-us/news/us/southwest-pilot-reportedly-used-anti-biden-phrase-over-pa-system/vi-AA13NZDF?ocid=windirect&cvid=b10daa4efe9440bc80345be697d89865&category=foryou
How many people were told to remove Trump clothing or were refused service?
How many times have we had to endure some wild eyed crazy progressive spew anti-Trump screeds?
At the height of anti-trumpism I was flying southwest, and I overheard many employees discussing Trump in a negative light.
Counseling chit which should be removed in six months end of problem.
Dumping on Trump is the default. But we’re not allowed to dump on Biden. 100% spot on, the hypocrisy is appalling.
Likewise, the hypocrisy among some CFNers who denigrated me for saying that I hoped JHK would remove certain abusers from his blog, as being “anti-free speech,” are now praising Elon Musk for kicking “the wrong kind of” people off Twitter.
There’s enough hypocrisy to go around, that is for sure.
MaryQ, I think there’s a distinction to be made between comments on a blog and on a social media platform like Twitter. I don’t think it would be hypocritical for our host to remove whomever he wishes. This is a sort of extension of his living room, and he can tell a guest to get lost if he wishes.
As far as kicking the wrong kind of people off Twitter, I think it’s within the bounds of reason and free speech to remove those people who threaten to do physical harm to others or who engage in fraud (such as pretending to be someone else). Other than that, I’d let it rip.
That being said, if “the wrong kind of people” fit the definition I just gave, then I wouldn’t say it’s hypocritical to be pleased at their removal. In general, I find vastly more hypocrisy on the left than on the right as presently constituted. It’s one of the primary things that drove me out of the party of chaos.
Yes, the owner of a website can do what he/she wants. A social media platform can’t arbitrarily ban people in the same way. Social Media can’t reflect bias in a free country, or our country is not free.
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For anybody who thinks free speech is an obligation here, I suggest you get your own website. When you pay your, bill you will think about who should be in charge of your website a bit more deeply.
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This is JHK’s free speech platform, not yours.
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What gets me is the 40 billion Musk paid for his website. Web space on a server costs no more than an old school magazine subscription. Code to run it is not hard to write once you learn how so a dozen software engineers is all you would need to run something as big as Twitter. Compared to 40 billion all those wages would be a drop in a bucket and in truth hardly that.
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The thing is, all people have bias. Not to have bias would mean you have the brains of a jellyfish.
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More important is do you tolerate dissent and are you honest. Are you Quasi-literate or are you literate. That is the question.
Rowdy, I agree with you completely. I’ve also said I am behind JHK’s decision to ban certain people 100%.
When I said that, I got attacked by several people up here. Mainly, SSL, Jarek and OG, among others.
But now they are cheering on Elon Musk for whacking the libtards off of Twitter.
So, I see them as hypocrites. BTW, they were not cheering Elon for kicking off Griffiths, they were praising him for taking over and cleaning house. Which means, doing the same thing the old boss at Twitter was doing. Just targeting a different group.
Trump’s bleeding and severed head, Kathy held in her arms (in her twitter post).
That could be characterized as bad taste; or, more reasonably, as the threat of violence against a particular person, the sitting president no less, and as such not protected by free speech.
The other bans that Elon is making, have a similar reason, perhaps. The libs of twitter are well known to be casual and callous in their threats of violence against political opponents. They have gotten away with it for a long time.
No, I’m not in favor of him kicking anyone off twitter.
Show me where I said that, asshole.
Isn’t it interesting how violent Jarek gets when someone puts words in HIS mouth he claims he hasn’t said?
Now, perhaps, you understand how annoyed most up here are with you for misquoting us.
If that was a misquote – I’m pretty sure you’ve been rah rah rah Elon all the way.
kawwwweeeennn’s idea of an abuser that should be removed:
anyone that hates feminism. because ideas (or opposition thereof) is violence.
astounding hypocricy.
@ justanotherguy:
Meh. I’d draw the line at truly abusive comments, regardless of whom they were directed at. We have a couple of people here who contribute nothing other than name-calling and derisive comments. In cases where this was consistently their MO, I’d boot them. I also wouldn’t tolerate false statements–though I’d give them a warning or two on that.
jaog has only one speed: MARYQ FEMINIST BAD! DERPY DERPY DOOO!!!
He’s boring.
again,
DGAF about kaweeeennnnnne – not interesting or significant enough in this world to bother calling good, bad or anything. just a sock puppet on a public blog.
feminism is the problem. its not about you.
Praising Elon Musk for kicking the wrong kind of people off Twitter? That doesn’t make much sense. Unless you can rephrase or explain that, it’s just nonsense you’re making up.
It’s really early in the new world of a Musk-Owned-Twitter to know how it’s going to go. Did any of you read that several twits have tweeted about being extorted for $15,000 to have an already denied blue check mark by their name magically approved? Musk replied to one of these tweeters with a “YUP”. So Musk apparently knows about it. The storyline is just getting weirder and weirder.
And I think Musk has a thrown a few people off Twitter, like Kathy Griffin, who lost her mind some time around the 2016 election.
Let’s just wait and see. Musk is always full of surprises. I don’t like him per se, but I am cheering on some of the things he does. He really has a world view that is uniquely his own.
Might want to check your buddy SF’s comment below.
MaryQ,
Read my response to you on this issue very late last thread.
Musk is 100% correct, legally so. Libel is a serious felony. What Musk outlines qualifies as libel. Character assassination buttressed by lies under the guise of sarcastic impersonation is a clear cut case of libel. if you were famous, and the frequent twitter pile-ons from envious idiots went after you, you’d have full recourse (and the upper hand) in suing them — and winning.
Libel, slander, and incitement to violence — the three exceptions to free speech.
But your mind is simplistic. It runs on a a binaristic parallel track. You simply can’t fathom or negotiate your way through even the mildest case of nuanced situational thinking.
I agree RE: Musk.
And generally the jury remains out on the guy for me.
Some of what he preaches is inevitable, but the larger question is how the powerful technologies that have arisen over the past decade or two will actually be used down the road.
Stuff like this does not just disappear. The Panora’s Box conundrum.
“Pandora”
Yes, I’m under so illusion that Musk is going to be some saviour of the so-called alt-right or the unjabbed deplorables. At this stage, it’s too early to make any sensible conclusions. Strictly case-by-case.
“under no illusion”
He just MIGHT, SF!
The transhumanist billionaire who, instead of helping out humanity some other way with 44 billion dollars, bought a social media platform, so he could hijack one stupid political party message over the other just in time for elections.
You’re a complete moron who falls for every psyops that comes down the pike.
I can’t wait to shove your face in this one later on.
It isn’t as if anyone can’t look up all the stuff Elon is for, such as transhumanism, needless animal torture and experimentation, and being a card-carrying member of the same people who are running the entire global fiasco.
But then, I actually do my homework before I type.
LOL.
Imagine, thinking it’s “libel” for a comedian to use your name on Twitter, when it’s obvious to everyone what she’s doing.
I can’t stand Cathy Griffith, but that’s just fucking ridiculous.
Oooooh did I hit a chord or WHAT!
LOL.
The Emmanuel Goldstein of our times.
#FJB
Here’s why I seek proof of the all-cause mortality….in the link to ISRAELNATIONALNEWS, we find this statement:
“According to the report, which was released by the US Food and Drug Administration to provide background information on its August 2021 decision to grant full approval for the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine after offering limited emergency authorization of use in last December, six months after the vaccine’s clinical trial began, the total number of deaths reported in the vaccinated group was nearly one-quarter higher than the number of deaths in the placebo group.”
The FDA report is linked and a superficial reading of that report indicates that the article’s claim that the vaxxed deaths were nearly one-quarter higher that the placebo group is based on THIS:
(From the FDA report)….
From Dose 1 through the March 13, 2021 data cutoff date, there were a total of 38 deaths, 21 in the COMIRNATY group and 17 in the placebo group. None of the deaths were considered related to vaccination.
Now, it’s been almost 50 years since I got a “C” in statistics but a difference of four in the vaxxed and placebo groups for such a small sample size makes me question the motives of the reporter.
IF THERE IS EXCESS ALL CAUSE MORTALITY, PEOPLE SHOULD HANG….but let’s not rush to judgement.
Someone please show me the proof.
What??? No takers? No proof?
In the end, the best advice is follow the money….so, if there is excess death, where are the ambulance chasers? Regardless of the product liability waiver, if an attorney can show negligence and MALICE, he’s going to sue. The class action suits should be coming out our ears.
I wrote the following in the Deep State Oracle section of my journal which you can access by clicking on “Hardrock” above.
When companies and government agencies started mandating the shots, my first thought was, ok, you’re making me take a shot that is unapproved and that I don’t want. If I suffer an adverse reaction, how likely is it that my health insurer will refuse coverage because the FDA has not approved the shot? In that case, will the government/my employer agree to cover all my medical expenses and lost wages? How many people asked about any of this when forced to get a vax? If I had been in this position, I would have written up my own such agreement and asked for signatures before even THINKING about the shot.
Thank you Mr. Kunstler for reminding us of the moment we are in, where prayer and humility are our only sure solace.
It is going to take all the courage we can muster to win through this attack on our morals, our culture, and our politics, not to mention our economy.
Who do we trust. And even if we trust them, we have to be willing to advise them of error and mistake.
All those sheer villains you mention, we need to pick them up by the scruff of their necks and boot them out.
And many others.
I have been puzzling over how Civil War 2.0 might play out. I finally came to the conclusion that this could be like Northern Ireland in the 1980s.
In other words, as Orlov has written, “Lots of holes in things.”
Sadly.
That won’t happen as long as the water flows, there is food on the shelves and the lights turn on.
Compared to many places we still have it to good and life is still essentially easy.
I thought so too, picked up
“Say Nothing”
Patrick Radden Keefe
Just getting started
#FJB
The security/surveillance state has assured that nothing like that can ever happen again. There is no way to organize any resistance that is not immediately captured and defused by the deep state. The security/surveillance state would have to be smashed and dismantled before anything like that could occur. Even then, look at the prospects. During TWBTS, the South was the most unified any section of this nation has ever been. Far more unified than the North and even more so than the colonists. And they still lost.
I beg to differ. The population of the Confederate States in 1860 (according to the 1860 census) stood at 9,103,332. Of that number, 3,521,110 were enslaved African-Americans.
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I think your definition of unity came from a drag queen story hour. Do you think slaves were rooting for the stars and bars?
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The security/surveillance state has assured that nothing like the TWBTS can ever happen again, I totally agree with you.
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Predatory capitalism is king and the security/surveillance state will keep it that way come hell or high water.
@ K-Chien: In any language this mutt is still K-Dog
The manufacturing base was solely in the North, with basically all agriculture supporting the South. The North also had a much larger population than the South, which showed on the battlefields. Still, it took 4 bloody years to subdue the South. The U.S. has an estimated 60 million hunters, with the majority likely opposed to the gun-grabbing Demoncraps/marxists. How many of the woke military, thanks to China Joe, Milley, and Austin, would remain and fight against American citizens for their woke ideology? What percentage of our special forces have they converted to the woke ideology who would fight against Americans? Frankly, you had best look at the 4-5 million mostly military age illegal men as being designed to fight against American citizens, if you want an explanation for the inexplicable allowance of the ongoing invasion on our Southern border. Is China Joe and the Demoncrap Party that corrupt and evil? You betcha!
‘Northern Ireland in the 1980s.’ certainly some similarities. The timeline for this particular period in Irish history goes back to the 1960’s. Bloody Sunday was 30 January 1972.
The underlying issues go back centuries.
Internment without trial as practiced by the Brit military during “the Troubles” has many similarities regarding those imprisoned since 6 January 2021.
“Drag queen horror hours”
It would make a good short story in the Stephen King style. The day some clueless drag queens accepted a gig to read to The Children of the Corn.
Great idea for a short story, hmuller, but it would have to be written by someone other than Stephen King. If written by his present incarnation, the drag queens would triumph and we’d all be sorry we didn’t affirm them.
I think that accident left him worse off than we knew.
There really is something creepy and deeply disturbing about the way people you know personally or knew as public figures have been replaced by malignant, narrative spewing pod people. I’m not speaking metaphorically. Unless you genuinely believe that we are walking sacks of meat, it’s impossible not to notice and keep noticing the spiritual aspect of this thing. I’ve used the words “demonic” and “evil” almost daily in the last few years – words I’ve used almost never before in my entire life. I know of no other way to describe what I see, so I fully understand our host’s inclination to get down on his knees.
His work has always been very popular among lower middle class Whites – whom he hates with a passion. I bet he always did secretly. Very, very common among the creative and chattering classes.
Rowdypiglet,
I don’t see the people of my acquaintance the same way as I did prior to 2016. Not one. It started with Trump Derangement Syndrome, which if it’s not in the medical journals, it should be. Most people I know have become pod people, meat bots, whatever you want to call them. They are programmed to do certain things. Some are filled with rage; everything is either Trump’s fault or because of climate change or racism. Some have become so submissive and credulous that the idea that our government or the “media” would lie to them is akin to aliens landing and inviting us all back to their place. A very small number of the people that I know have stood up and been counted. I hope they consider me to be one of them.
It has shaken my faith in humanity.
@Rowdypiglet
I see the same world, and I honestly feel like I’m living in the body snatchers movie.
I’ve been a devout aetheist all my life, but I’m starting to think that maybe there is an evil force that has taken over these pod people, because so many of the issues they’re pushing are so clearly demonic.
There is nothing new under sun with regards to the evil of this world. Most of us here, who were born after WW2 grew up and lived most of our adulthood in relative peace and prosperity. (Unless of course you served in Vietnam, but that was ‘over there’. Most didn’t suffer anything in the US). Most of human history has been chaotic and filled with wars, despotic tyrannies, pestilences, etc…. We’re at the beginning of a cycle in which all these things are going to be new again. (Everything old is new again). But this time, this time, despotic tyrants have some new toys. High tech and everything that that gives them. The CCP is perfecting it right now. It will come here. But, not without a fight. Oh……I almost forgot my point…..The god of this world is the Devil(s). Most, even here, forget this.
Must have been a republican driver. He hates Trump.
Drag Queen grooming hours….
The worst aspect of the degradation of the Democratic Party is that, in a shallow, uneducated nation, the (equally-vile) Republicans become the by-default, “answer” to the present mess. America has a one-party system (2 “flavors”, no alternative programs), run by the same bosses. Every time one end of the party screws up too much we futilely scream “throw the bums out”… overlooking the inconvenient reality that that means voting BACK IN the same morons you voted out 4 years ago! Rinse & repeat. A 2 party system REQUIRES a second party.
THANK YOU.
You’ve just stated why I don’t vote. Despite what good people like Walter do, I still believe it’s a waste of time to vote in a one-party system. The rot and corruption run deep, and the only way to change that is to act in ways that terrify the establishment, and to change the system as it now stands. Otherwise, if the Dems are kicked out tomorrow, the public, much to their chagrin, will eventually find that the new power-brokers are just the same as the old ones.
I’m not playing that game.
The only people who questioned policies enacted during covid were Republicans. I’m hoping if they win the Senate, Rand Paul will carry through with his promise to hold hearings and Fauci can be put under oath and be forced to answer some very pointed questions.
And the consequences of these draconian covid measures should not be swept under the rug by people who just want to “move on and forgive.” The ones who unquestionably followed orders should be able to see that they were lied to and manipulated. Or else it could easily happen again.
OK, then what?
I’d like to think there’d be punishment for the bastards. More than likely, the corporate media would twist the story, as usual, and Fauci et al would be hailed as heroes yet again.
Not playing the game?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
IOW participation in a system of psychopathy has been called charachteropathy.
no thanks
I respect that viewpoint, and I almost didn’t vote this time for the same reason. But I decided that there are some local issues I wanted to weigh in on, such as stopping the building of more “Taj Mahal” schools which will raise property taxes. I also voted against the proposition to “build housing for the homeless”. Sounds good, but when government, even local governments, undertake “solving the homeless problem” they just make it worse. Plus, there is a lot of graft in “building homes for the homeless”. Or “un-housed”, as the Orwellian libs like to say now. (They hate the concept of ‘home’). On all the candidate races I voted Libertarian. Where there wasn’t a Libertarian I just left it alone. So, essentially my whole ballot said “No” to the status quo. I’m sure it will help! Bwahahahaha…..
‘but when government, even local governments, undertake “solving…’
Seems you’re echoing the ‘government doesn’t solve much’ thought and ‘the bigger the government, the bigger the problems it creates’ is the logical extension.
There needs to be some organization of society as it emerges from
the ‘state of nature’. ** The problem enters when the organization grows and people start manipulating it for personal gain instead of leaving it alone.
It keeps coming back for a repeat performance.
The variations on ‘that government governs best which governs least’, attributed to various individuals, puts the issue into a small, neat package. I’d like to keep it there. History, such as history of Western Civ, shows it to be an as of yet unsolved problem (or maybe an unresolved issue?)
**Could try staying in ‘state of nature’ as an option.
rudyspeaks, My resistance to leaving the Democratic party was the necessity of either giving up entirely or moving to the Republican party. Eventually, my resistance was sufficiently eroded because, as bad as they are, there are not too many Republicans promoting drag queen story hour or surgical mutilation of children. But we need to do much better than two parties that are only marginally different from each other.
And Republicans and conservatives do not “swat” their opposition in efforts to get them killed by the police. Seems to be happening fairly often, and always by the leftist loons like antifa, blm, and other useful idiot leftists.
Hah! You are having a joke with me, senor! The “right” doesn’t try to kill their opposition? Um, MLK, BOTH Kennedys, Fred Hampton for starters. They’re trying to kill Julian Assange right now (both parties…again!) Trouble is, shallow Americans think the media is “liberal”, so your whole frame of reference is skewed. Red Pill: 5 groups of Billionaires own 97% of everything you hear, read or see… they are 4 right wing families (Murdochs [36% of all media], Luces, Disneys, Redstones) and Comcast. Such Bolsheviks, huh? Supported every Lie-fueled war in the last 70 years. Again, Dem or Repub, no effing difference.
Yes.
I have to reckon, however, that MOST PEOPLE are in the center. If there is to be a true reform of our polity, it will come from the center.
I think some savvy politicos are picking up on that. Of course, we’ve been running from the left side to the right side of the boat for so long, the next roll may capsize us.
Could all be bullshit, IDK.
#FJB
‘The center’, something like homeostasis. When the extremes occur, things get out of hand. The human body, such a marvelous creation, is always striving for balance.
The outcome of tomorrow’s ‘election’ may not matter much. Reports (NOT from the corporate legacy media) are coming in of diesel fuel not being available in large swaths of North Carolina, Tennessee, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania. Tennessee has put on draconian limits of amounts of diesel one can purchase, including truckers. I saw clear evidence of that yesterday on a road trip. World Made by Hand is likely closer that it has ever been since JHK wrote the first book in the series several years ago. No diesel = no gasoline, no food, no medical supplies, no nothing!!! Those who have not prepped heavily will starve and freeze, if not put out of their misery by looters.
Not sure most of that can be prepped for adequately in any case.
in the east usa probably not,too many damn people–out west if your connected (not by coruption,just who you know) you can get anything or somebody you know can,no problem–my family has cattle ranches,trucks,know how–we will support our small community–hopefully we won’t get overrun–one hiway in or out,large mountain ranges would make it tough for the mad max crowd
James Wesley Rawles, a former spec ops guy in the Bosnia war, wrote a series of apocalyptic books that often feature the idea of a ‘golden horde’ coming from california into the western states and devastating the latter’s resources (e.g. feasting on cattle at will, similar to what’s happened in South Africa). Hope that doesn’t happen to you and yours.
Neurodoc,
I had to stop reading JWR’s blog. Every once in awhile he would go after his readers. If you don’t live on the edge of a national forest in the willie wags of Idaho, you are so stupid. I got tired of it. That little man needs to realize PRIDE
Neurodoc,
I had to stop reading JWR’s blog. Every once in awhile he would go after his readers. If you don’t live on the edge of a national forest in the willie wags of Idaho, you are so stupid. I got tired of it. That little man needs to realize PRIDE is one of the seven deadly sins.
Also known as the FSA or Free Shit Army.
theyve been in Ashland for decades already
None of it can be.
Trucks stop rolling?
That’s the nightmare scenario.
#FJB
It seems to me that no matter which political party is in power, the country continues to tank, which is one of the reasons I don’t bother voting.
I have watched for 30 years people saying the same stupid things over and over “vote them in and then hold their feet to the fire.” Hahahahaha look where that’s gotten us.
See my post above – we’re of the same mind.
Nice post. Yep, same: Why play their game? Why jump when they say jump?
Nope.
Not when things get progressively worse no matter what we do.
Indeed. Just take your experiemental shots, and tell those railing against them and warning of the coming digital tyranny that they should no longer speak on the subject.
As families are locked out of supermarkets, the Beantown Shill tells you to pipe down with your crazy conspiracies.
A truly honorable man.
What a sack of shit.
Mary agrees with him though. The pain you must be feeling is unimaginable. Like the Old Central Americans during an eclipse.
Yeah, great idea.
“Don’t play their game.”
I agree!
I’m gonna take my toys and go home!!
Whaaaa!
What a crock.
Get off your effin’ high horse tantrum and get out and vote for SOMEONE.
Better not to light a single candle. Then you can curse the darkness. Being Right is what matters after all, not change. Purity, much like what Anthea talks about in regards to women. The Puritan disease.
No, Islander, I’m not voting.
You stay on your hamster wheel, though. Don’t forget to get your little sticker and show it off like the 5-year olds after getting their stickers at Trader’s Joe.
LOL!!
Oh wow even Jarek buys into the voting scheme.
That’s hilarious! I still wonder why anyone at CFN thinks Jarek is intelligent.
Jarek, I doubt that Night Owl has his emotions all wrapped up in what other CFNers post.
I think that’s your gig.
No, I don’t really care. I just hope the Beantown Shills of this world drop off sooner than later.
Remember, this is what the Shill told you to shut up about:
https://twitter.com/riseupandresist/status/1589862618562727936?cxt=HHwWgMDU0ZnoqZAsAAAA
And not long ago (a few weeks?), he doubled down again on his responses.
These days, however, the Beantown Shill had no idea what you are talking about.
He is a regular freedom fighter, you see.
I’ve always voted. I’m not voting for my sitting MP any more (the one I’ve been in pointless correspondence with). I would so love to see him lose his seat and become Joe Public again with no strings to pull to avoid digital slavery like the rest of us.
I think his main rivals are the Lib Dems, rather than the SNP, who don’t do well in Edinburgh. But the Lib Dems are also in bed with the globalists, as are the Greens and the SNP, so there’s no-one, basically.
I don’t like the idea of not registering my vote, even if I don’t vote for any of them, as a low turnout allows them to claim apathy. So I think it’s best to turn up and spoil my ballot paper, as they have to count the number of spoiled papers. When the number is much greater than usual, it sends a message. I think ‘no anti-WEF candidates here, so I’ll pass’ would do as the spoiler, even if only one person sees it.
But we’ll have to see how long Digital-Rishi lasts first.
I think someone posted Sunak on the last thread, in a very short clip from Russell Brand’s show.
Here’s full Rishi on the CBDCs, if anyone is interested. He’s unspeakable.
youtube.com/watch?v=vTOYJ4QCPnI
Actually, beantownbill stood up for me when men up here were attacking me solely for being a feminist, and not even addressing my comments but simply showing what utter assholes & misogynists they are.
So, I’m able to support comments and appreciate those who support mine. Probably moreso, if we align on some other topics, such as the trans agenda scourge and the utter uselessness of voting.
I don’t consider it some sort of emotional thing as Jarek does. I just like interacting with some people and some I don’t.
MQ:
Nasty!
” Don’t forget to get your little sticker and show it off l”
You are way off the track here. I too find the stickers dumb and childish. They go into the trash as I leave the voting place.
But I do find it interesting that you find stickers a reason not to vote.
As for your imputation in one of your other childish hit-outs that I am one who cried over the Hillary vote, you are totally off the rails. How do you even get there? Have you ever actuallyread a single post of mine here?
Looking for trashy, insulting comments.
FWIW I voted for Trump in 2016, to blunt was expected “Hillary mandate.”
It is too bad that you resort to such knee-jerk childish BS rants when challenged.
I have rarely voted, though I did vote for Trump twice. Prior to that, I voted in the midterm election that immediately followed the start of the Iraq War. (I can’t remember the year.)
That particular midterm election had a HUGE turnout–similar to the current one–because so many people opposed the war. (There was also tremendous pressure to keep your mouth shut about opposition to the war. Every store had a “Support Our Troops” sign, and ever church took time to “pray for our troops.”) So…. Because of this, the Democrats were voted in. This had zero effect, as far as ending the war.
So, yeah. Voting in the other party doesn’t accomplish much, if anything.
How do you even know what it “accomplished.”
It certainly did change a FEW things that a few people actually did turn out to vote and Trump got elected.
People have been saying the same childish, “show me” thing forever.
“I’ll show them!
I just won’t vote!!!
That’ll show them”.
Effin’ childish ego trip.
“I refuse to cast a vote unless it can be proved to me that my voting “makes a difference.” ”
.Funny how those people do seem to want to “make a difference” with their self-satisfied announcements of their civic fecklessness. A fleeting ego pleasure.
Yeah, I know the country isn’t good enough for you and you are dissatisfied with the service—of course the rest of us are just boobs who have drunk some Kool-Aid.
Except we aren’t.
And we certainly don’t need to stroke our little egos by boasting that we are too cool to participate in the election.
“I refuse to play their game” is one of the dumber statements, IMO>
No, the people who get out and vote are not dumber than you. They know the score as well as or better than you. But they vote anyway. Yes, they play the “game” because it is currently—specifically, tomorrow—the only game.
So get your asses out there and vote.
LMAO, keep barking like a trained seal in the circus, Islander.
I’m sure one of these years it’ll make a BIG difference.
@ Islander:
Meh.
There are a # of binding ballot initiatives here.
It is as direct as it gets on the state level and takes effort to get the initiatives on the ballot.
It’s not about a candidate, it’s legislating ( or overturning legislation ) directly via individual vote.
Keeping the voting from massive corruption is the challenge.
@Anthea, I dealt with this for MONTHS after the 2016 election. Libtards everywhere EXCORIATING those who didn’t vote or WORSE, voted 3d party.
“You are why HILLARY wasn’t elected!” Boo hoo.
Such utter insanity.
I would have to agree with you there. It may seem pointless but “the forms must be obeyed.”
I have a nagging feeling that NOT VOTING plays into the enemies hands.
Amman:
Re that “nagging feeling”— spot on.
And, I guess these proud nonvoters have never heard of a ballot initiative, or a local race, or a local ordinance that also appears on the ballot.
They are fixated at, in a sense, the least important part of a typical ballot.
But since they don’t vote they have probably never even seen a real ballot.
foot fungi medium well please
Your message should be read by Benr above. He is in San Diego, a “softer” place to live than 90% of the country
The diesel problem IS just the beginning and an acknowledgement that Peak Oil might be a reality in the future. Fracking was brought out as a denial of Peak Oil, but as usual the “experts” only get part of the picture. Fracked oil is light grade, very light grade. No Diesel, the oil companies know this, that is why no refineries being converted to diesel.
The Deep State knows it too. The first test for the GOP majority will be the turning back on of the FF industry in the US. Finish the pipeline, stop the subsidies for the oil companies and give them tax credits for oil exploration instead. Quit the stupid conflict wit Russia and restart the Arctic explorations surrounding the Arctic Ocean. Give the banks incentives to invest in FF. Give research money into improving coal and oil cleanliness. Encourage Joe Manchin and his total energy production agenda. Is he the only Deep Stater that understands what the Biden agenda could do to this country? He certainly let Biden’s mob have it this AM.
The choice is clear right now and the symptoms are approaching, quickly now. The Dems have spent two years playing chicken with economic disaster due to Energy shortage. Europe should be hanging Biden and his mob in effigy this winter for what he has caused both with oil and gas and with a Biden corrupted Ukraine.
BTW, the conference in Egypt on climate change started out with an admission that things on the Paris Accord are getting worse and that nobody is doing the things they promised. Holy Cow! Surprise! No s&*t!
Like the Colorado River accord, all things proposed are going to hurt someone or a lot of people. The four downstream states cannot settle the amounts of water they will lose. In all four, cities will be hit, but not nearly as much as agriculture. The entire US and some overseas folks are about to find out what hard food shortages are all about as the breadbasket plus the San Joaquin areas dry up. You folks on the East Coast are going to get hammered by oil, gas and fuel shortages, not in 2050, but next year. JHK has always said that the oil shortages are going to hit home hard as the century moves along. I think he is an optimist.
Not just the Southwest either, the Mississippi is drying up. Upstream will be hit hard with low water capability, the drought may hit the Midwest.
Is God pointing his spear at this very perverted, evil country?
AZ:
Answer: YES!!!
God and some geoengineering wizards. Search on “weather modification”.
God hires all kinds of “wizards” to chastise His people. Repent or Perish. No new thing under the sun.
Hear, hear.
thanks..more reports are on you tube.
so what will the last few weeks of 2022 be like?
Ndoc,
A view of the future.
https://ggwash.org/view/63914/this-is-what-it-looks-like-when-100-people-ride-dirt-bikes-through-your-neighborhood
Only thing missing is the assless chaps.
Target practice, with moving target that may or may not shoot back.
🙂
Doc,
If you are using a bolt action rifle with good optics…probably not.
A lot of people are getting powerful electric bikes. At least they’re quiet. Though if there’s a lot of them, that will add to the number of accidents I suppose.
20 years ago, someone shopping for a house said, “I want to live where everyone looks like me.”
I thought he was a racist POS.
Today, I understand and live someplace where almost everyone looks like me.
“Man looks on the outward appearance, God looks on the heart.”
It is a little better than not looking at all.
Mohammad said, Beware of the eye of the believer. God has left outer signs that you might know the heart: the Countenance; the mien or set of the face.
Perhaps you can’t read it. Just so, people who know books can often tell a good book by the cover.
Jarek worships movie stars and Silicon Valley billionaires.
I don’t think his God is going to be very happy with him when he gets to the Pearly Gates.
That’s a problem in New Haven & Hartford too.
Local media calls them ‘Motorcycle Gangs’, as if The Wild Ones — Marlin Brando & Lee Marvin — have been resurrected. However, these Motorcycle Gangs are Ghetto Rats on stolen bikes and ATVs terrorizing nearby white neighborhoods. They have run down old ladies carrying groceries to their car, that’s how GANGSTA they are.
That’s so infuriating. I can’t wait for “gangs” of youngblood Whites, to figure out how to take back the streets. Once they do find their ballsacks, I think we’ll see good results right quick.
Those black gangs of youths, are why we can’t live together (black and White), w/o stringent conditions. Like blacks have to stay on their side of town, and more generally, know their place.
It gives me no pleasure to conclude that, but it’s a fact of nature (is my conclusion) that conflict between race groups of people, when they share the same living space, is inevitable, to the extent that the races exist. One of them has to be on top, if they are sharing the same living space. Human nature requires hierarchies, and these hierarchies of necessity include race groups, and if they do not, said race groups cease to exist.
Where I usually gas up is totally out of mid-grade and premium. I think it’s starting. I think that this is a sign of refineries not being able to produce enough regular gas, so they’re cutting back on the two higher grades.
This is what the collapse of dying illegitimate empires look like. Lucky us. We’ve got front row seats to it all.
Yes, agree with KK above. Civil War 2.0 will look nothing like the inaugural version, but entirely like what we’re seeing now in Ukraine. China and Russia will both have major stakes in the outcome, so I’d expect a lot of very active foreign support for whichever factions they favor. I’m just glad I don’t live in the NE power corridor, as the DC command and control centers and NYC financial centers are almost certainly doomed. Good riddance to both!
I agree with both of your hypotheses except that I think that they are not trying to cover up their crimes, they have found out that their crimes go unpunished, so they are running wild.
Like the teenagers in the cities run by Soros-elected district attorneys, the lack of law enforcement encourages more and more blatant crimes.
They are openly looting the public treasury, openly trashing the Bill of Rights, openly stealing elections and then threatening to use the “justice” system as well as censorship to stifle those who protest, by threatening lawsuits and prison time.
We should be able to use the justice system for a redress of grievances, such as election theft. Instead, craven judges refuse to allow the suits and then the propaganda machine uses their cowardice as “proof” that there is nothing to see here.
I don’t pray, so I have no idea what to do about this. Voting doesn’t work when the elections are rigged.
Don’t forget the fourth rail willing to lie about it all.
The media has all but destroyed this country by refusing to report the truth.
I think she covered that by saying the propaganda machine…
Yes!
A lot of the local media has no clue when it comes to the truth. They see what the networks put forth and, maybe because becoming a network reporter or a writer on the national level is making it big in their eyes, they don’t think for themselves and question anything.
I don’t know if the link to this image will post, but this right here is the problem.
If you ask a tv or newspaper reporter in your town what they think of this, their POV will be the exact opposite of the truth, and they just will not believe you.
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1667785050865010.jpg
‘A lot of the local media has no clue when it comes to the truth.’ Well….. I’d like to toss a bunch of truth and reality deniers into the mix, the clued in and the clueless.
Thinking for themselves is a career-death experience.
Advertising $, it points the way, follow the $$. The issue becomes how much $$ for media story ‘A’, how much for ‘B’ on and on…..
My opinion, not a tv watcher, is the talking heads are calculating the pad percentage of their bank account and investment portfolios. The ‘networks’ are merely operating on a larger platform.
BTW: Nice link!
As for your last line, I asked the question last Friday’s post: What if its a fair election, you still lose, and the winner hates your guts? More oppression, injustice, and destructive policies. It seems it won’t end until the Chaos party finally burns itself out but not before many other things are destroyed, perhaps permanently.
You’re doing plenty enough. Just putting out alternative viewpoints and ideas helps people make the right decision and do the right thing. Imagine if there was no alternative commentary on the web which questioned the official line on say the vaccine issue…
“Like the teenagers in the cities run by Soros-elected district attorneys, the lack of law enforcement encourages more and more blatant crimes.”
Paula,
What it eventually encourages is vigilantism.
Re-think the emergence of the KKK in the 1860’s
“One obvious agent is George Soros, whose many NGOs operate at the fine-grained local level to elect district attorneys who won’t enforce the criminal statutes and state secretaries of state who won’t enforce election laws. ” That’s not all. They are also pouring lots of very dark money into other very local elections. When have ever seen tv ads for school board elections? In Wake county NC, there are hit ads against a school board candidate who’s publicly criticized CRT , and there are no party affilations listed on the ballot!
Wow! That is very telling.
There is clearly big money behind the agenda, and I doubt it’s just Soros.
Paula-
There is some thorough and disturbing material around about the trillions behind the trans stuff.
Right. These things do not just happen.
They tell us that the trans agenda has been put into place because a bunch of spunky men in dresses fought hard for their ”rights”.
So the government, the media, the schools and universities, the libraries, the medical-industrial complex, especially Big Pharma, the military, the police, courts and prisons, the corporations, social media and NGOs all responded to their righteous cause.
And that is why purple-haired freaks get to demand that you use their special pronoun words or be fired.
Sure…….
Yes indeed.
Written in 2018, Jennifer Bilek already knew the score:
https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/
And, the double-masectomies and hysterectomies on teen-age girls had not even begun back then. Another windfall for the medical industrial complex.
I grew up near wake county, NC; it has turned into a cesspool of liberal bullshit, approaching that of big northern cities.
I know people from New York who moved down there because it wasn’t wrecked like the places in New York they came from, and once they got there they decided the places would be improved if they became more like New York.
The Clintons front something called the Arabella Foundation or some such and that is, I heard tell teh biggest source of dark money in the USA.
Sorry can’t recall exactly where I saw this; it was recent; will try to remember.
Here is some info from, surprise, Wikipedia.
So this Arabella Advisors thing is probably a whole lot worse than what Wiki allows.
But, yes, Soros is one of the big donors. It is probably one of the ways that money is channeled into local elections.
It certainly seems to “mimic” in a way the WEF MO, which is to infiltrate basically political operatives into the polity on every level, from top to town.
Did you ever vote for a Clinton? I’m guessing “yes”.
I disliked Bill intensely but compared to what we have now rotting in the Whitehouse I would take him.
Joe Biden reminds me of the zombies in the walking dead.
Yes, I voted for Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996.
What a childish question, Ms. Inquisitor.
Is this the best you got?
Go home and suck your thumb.
Thanks for today’s excellent article, James. Again, I wish I could be as hopeful as you are, and I strive to do just that, but things sure are looking grim.
As Paula D says, the rule of law seems to have been broken. That being said, I AM seeing that there are still lawsuits being filed against the powerful that haven’t yet been thrown out. We’ll see where they go.
Meanwhile, we have to do a lot of work on ourselves. For one, we desperately need to stop expecting hero(s) or heroine(s) to come save us. What can we do? For one, stop falling for the psyops. They throw them at us every day. If the media wants you to talk about something, you can bet there is a reason. It’s usually to distract from something else that is way more important.
Such as diesel fuel running out, our remaining rights disappearing, the propping up of criminals and rampant crime, the housing situation, the attacks on our children, etc.
Test 123.
Paul Pelosi and his exploits got quiet. Even someone at NBC got sick of the lies, evidently.
They KNOW that no one at all is dumb enough to believe the is a good reason for not showing the body cam footage that would put all the rumors to rest.
Any other woman trying to persuade the world that an intruder at her home was there to kidnap her, and not for some bizarre underwear fight with her spouse, would demand that the tape would be released.
Oh, it’s working now. Everything depends on the American people – their plans, their condition, their preparations and their actions before and during the election. It sounds obvious but is worth saying.
I hope the Congress veers to the right, becomes Anti Pharma/vax, seriously pro-Justice and protects families. That’s an early and real X-mas gift.
Governments caused the RSV ‘crisis’ in children by locking them away indoors.
Scott Gottlieb on behalf of Pfizer is telling lies about this because they are trying to get approval for an RSV “vaxx”.
The industry said early on they wanted to move to a “subscription model”, those of us who could read have known this since at least 2020.
The idea is you get these injections starting at birth, and are dependent on Pfizer for the rest of your life, as you don’t develop your own immune system.
They were allowed to experiment on basically the whole planet, the infernal concoctions don’t even work, and they proceed apace is if the last two years never happened.
None of the ploiticians are talking about a tribunal.
Pediatricians warned about the uptick in childhood diseases because children were isolated during the pandemic and their developing immune systems didn’t get challenged enough.
Your immune system deals with bacteria, viruses, protozoa, dust, pollen, worms and myriad other things.
You don’t have to be exposed to RSV to have an immune system, just like I’ve never been exposed to dengue fever yet my immune system still works.
I think this “the 4 month lockdown 2 years ago is the cause of all of the ills of today” is bullshit put out to make us ignore the fact that they are still releasing deadly pathogens into the population to sell their vaccines.
It also serves to explain away the increased death rate of the last 2 years. “Oh that? That’s because of the lockdown 2 1/2 years ago”.
I call bullshit.
In a paper that appeared in the journal Perspectives in Public Health in 2016, Prof. Sally F. Bloomfield and colleagues examine Dr. Strachan’s original paper.
They write: “The immune system is a learning device, and at birth it resembles a computer with hardware and software but few data. Additional data must be supplied during the first year of life, through contact with microorganisms from other humans and the natural environment.”
They continue:
“If these inputs are inadequate or inappropriate, the regulatory mechanisms of the immune system can fail. As a result, the system attacks not only harmful organisms [that] cause infections but also innocuous targets such as pollen, house dust, and food allergens resulting in allergic diseases.”
“We want to see children playing on the floor, getting dirty, and being exposed to lots of people in lots of environments,” he says. “The outcome of this is usually a strong immune system, linked to a healthy population of gut bacteria, called the microbiome.”
With this in mind, should parents of infants or young children be concerned about the effects of physical distancing and lockdowns on their immune systems?
The authors point to the post-hygiene hypothesis theory known as the old friends (OF) mechanismTrusted Source.
Introduced in 2003, it suggests that the important exposures to microbes in early life are not actually colds, measles, or other childhood ailments, but rather those microbes that were already around during the hunter-gatherer period, when the immune system was evolving.
These microbes include species that live in both indoor and outdoor environments, and they come from the skin, gut, and respiratory tracts of other people.
“OF exposures are vital,” say the researchers, “because they interact with the regulatory systems that keep the immune system in balance and prevent overreaction, which is an underlying cause of allergies. Diversity of microbial exposure is key.”
They note that the most important times in life for OF exposure are during pregnancy, delivery, and the first months of infancy. They also add that continuing exposure from the mother and siblings is vital.
And one more:
The “immunity debt” phenomenon occurs because measures like lockdowns, hand-washing, social distancing and masks are not only effective at controlling Covid-19. They also suppress the spread of other illnesses that transmit in a similar way, including the flu, common cold, and lesser-known respiratory illnesses like RSA. In New Zealand, lockdowns last winter led to a 99.9% reduction in flu cases and a 98% reduction in RSV – and near-eliminated the spike of excess deaths New Zealand usually experiences during winter.
“This positive collateral effect in the short term is welcome, as it prevents additional overload of the healthcare system,” a collective of French doctors wrote in a May 2021 study of immunity debt. But in the long term, it can create problems of its own: if bacterial and viral infections aren’t circulating among children, they don’t develop immunity, which leads to larger outbreaks down the line.
“The lack of immune stimulation… induced an “immunity debt” which could have negative consequences when the pandemic is under control and [public health intervientions] are lifted,” the doctors wrote. “The longer these periods of ‘viral or bacterial low-exposure’ are, the greater the likelihood of future epidemics.”
Yes, I know that the immune system should be stimulated in early life, but not because it is a computer that doesn’t work without programing.
Children who grow up with dogs are less likely to have asthma, for instance, which is an immune reactive problem.
But I have to disagree that the only way to be exposed to pathogens is through day care centers in early life.
Babies and toddlers playing in the dirt with their dogs or being carried in a front pack by a parent or eating pieces of food off the floor are stimulated plenty.
Not one of my children had a respiratory virus in their first year of life. And yet they all have immune systems! Wow.
I call bullshit also on “most important times in life for OF exposure are during pregnancy”. The developing fetus is protected from pathogens by the placental barrier. And it is beyond ridiculous to suggest that a fetus can be exposed to respiratory viruses in utero. They aren’t breathing in utero.
And although the passage through the birth canal does expose the newborn to its mother’s microbes almost 50% of infants in US hospitals are pulled out through her abdomen and never get exposed to her birth canal microbes. And yet they still have immune systems.
Also, they repeat the covid bs line that drove me crazy for the first two months of propaganda… that respiratory viruses spread through the hands and can be stopped by slathering antibacterial substances on the hands.
Yeah, no.
I do agree that keeping children away from other people for those four months probably meant that any viruses they didn’t contract then probably hit them later, but so what?
Like I said, I protected my kids from human diseases their first year (but not dogs and dirt) and yeah, they did get sick later, but I felt it was better to have them get sick when they were older and better able to handle it. None of them have allergies.
Infants are obligate nose breathers, for one thing, and a mucus plugged nose is quite distressing to them.
Why deliberately expose them? When they are older they will be able to compensate better.
“asthma, for instance, which is an immune reactive problem.”
Asthma is a problem of overbreathing.
“Infants are obligate nose breathers, for one thing, and a mucus plugged nose is quite distressing to them.”
Infants haven’t yet learned to breathe incorrectly. As you say, they breathe through their nose, and (the key) almost imperceptibly. A mucus-plugged nose can be easily alleviated through several breath holds. Safe even for small children who are old enough to follow instructions.
The point the studies are trying to make is what is known, is that children who are exposed to routine interactions (trips to the grocery store with Mom, neighbors stopping by etc.) challenge their immune systems on a regular basis and their immune systems are more resilent and incur no immunity debt. I image there’s a lot more work to be done to see how quickly it recovers when these natural stimulants are not in place.
“asthma is a problem of overbreathing”
hahahahahahaha
“I think this “the 4 month lockdown 2 years ago is the cause of all of the ills of today” is bullshit ”
I disagree. There might be a bullshit aspect, but the fact is, as I understand it, that developing a healthy immune system requires constant expose to challenges.
Like a workout.
If children don’t run around and exercise, they don’t develop muscles. If their immune systems are not exposed to ongoing challenges, their innate immune system doesn’t develop robust defenses.
httpXX://microbiologyinfo.com/difference-between-innate-and-adaptive-immunity/
There are plenty of challenges for your immune system.
During the lockdown my husband and I were working on the garden, which included digging in the dirt and hauling dried chicken and goat shit out in a wagon, dumping it in a cloud of dust, meanwhile getting our blood sucked by ticks and mosquitoes carrying who knows what viruses and protozoas.
We were sneezing and coughing and I told him “Do you know that there are people who believe that if you aren’t exposed to human resp viruses your immune system has nothing to do?”
And then we laughed and laughed. (Laughter is good for your immune system.)
I recall one of the doctors I like saying that having pet dogs and even sleeping with them in your bed is great for your immune system.
Must be why I never get sick. 😀
Getting your blood sucked out by tics is taking it a step too far. No one wants that, no matter much a beneficial workout it might be for your system performance.
My impression–which I think is backed up by science–is that viral diseases will spread, regardless of any and all precautions. E.g., Spanish Flu turned up even on very remote islands.
You cannot go to the grocery store (or any other store) or to a gas station without being exposed to whatever is going around. Everything you touch at Walmart has been touched by countless other people, many of whom used the public restroom and didn’t wash their hands. And even if they did wash their hands, they probably touched the restroom’s exit door on the way out. When toilets (especially the industrial type) are flushed, the contents of the toilet bowl are aerosolized. This means you have aerosolized shit all over your clothing, skin, and hair. When you check out at the store, you touch a keypad that has been touched by everyone in town. Likewise when you pump gas, and when you take canned goods off the shelf at the store to put in your shopping cart. Fresh produce, as we all know, is sure to have microbes of some kind, picked up anywhere from the growing field and the store, and all points in between.
Seems to me that there should be no difficulty about getting ones immune system challenged.
Are you under the impression that that link supports your theory?
It actually supports what I said. You have an innate immune system that handles everything that hits you as long as it isn’t too big a dose of too virulent a pathogen. The adaptive one is for specific diseases to which you have been exposed.
There are hundreds of pathogens that attack humans. You don’t have to be exposed to them all to have an immune system. You are born with one, except for a few people who are not and they die off pretty quickly.
If you really think you need to constantly challenge your immune system be sure to go to NY City and spend some up close time with the immigrants with TB.
Take a trip to Haiti and drink some cholera-laden water.
Or just leave your leftovers out for a week and challenge your immune system with a nice dose of salmonella.
Personally I prefer to avoid as many pathogens as possible and leave the rest up to my immune system without deliberately “challenging” it.
the egregious badness of all this is a pendulum that has nearly reached the end of its swing, pushed just a little bit more.
this is the kind of pendulum that opens eyes and changes worldviews upon its reversal.
its coming. bet on it.
Life on the subscription plan was the goal all along.
The medical profession boards, and many doctors, CDC, NIH, and FDA are basically owned by the pharmaceutical industry, since they pay most of the budget at the CDC, NIH, and FDA, while contributing vast amounts in campaign donations (bribes) to especially well placed politicians. Many doctors get royalties and perks like honorariums and speaking fees for symposiums put on by the drug industry. Until fairly recently, it was unlawful for drug companies to advertise on TV, but congress opened that door for them. Now, I just saw an article that stated there are around 365 drug commercials daily on TV, and they are also on radio. That should explain the harsh trearment of any doctor or medical personnel who questioned the mRNA scam, which has killed and crippled millions across the globe. Hospitals were given large payments for Covid deaths, and their use of deadly treatments is the subject of a coming class-action lawsuit. Immunity does not survive fraud or placing a deadly product into commerce.
Another part of the agenda to get all kids vaxxed with MRNA is it is transitioning their bodies to be conducive for the transhumanist agenda. Basically making their biology a platform. All the talk of “Bill Gates’ chip” in the vaxxes was cointelpro so that it could be laughed off and forgotten. It’s not a chip, but there is nanotechnology in it that is going to make people more susceptible to being, lets just say affected by electromagnetic energy or transmissions. (5G….and then the following Gs to come). In more and more teens and young adults this nano garbage is causing the heart attacks, strokes, myocarditis, and cardiac arrest. These are the ones whose bodies couldn’t adapt to this shit. But, the deaths will keep happening. Probably not even at the peak yet.
Young people don’t know what democracy means, because they quit teaching civics in school some time ago.
Very true! And no sign it has a pulse so there’ll be no reviving it.
democracy never had any potential. proponents of minimal but effective government have long recognized democracy for what it is:
a setup for a society wide grift. outcome now as expected.
Yes, it’s just mob rule unless voters are carefully screened for competence. And mob rule means rule by those who control the mob.
Mob rule through ballot drop boxes
Or more commonly and forever, the stupidity of ordinary man reading alien controlled newspapers.
The NY Times – the good grey Lady? She was totally for the Russian Revolution lead by the same people who owned the Times.
It’s over-rated anyway. What matters is the demos and how they treat each other.
My son-in-law got a COVID booster on Friday. His father is a transplant patient and he feels he can’t see him unless he gets the shot. He spent the weekend with a fever and throwing up even water. They were concerned he would need to go to the hospital for an IV.
I have a primary immune deficiency. I got the the monoclonal antibodies. A shot in each butt cheek and an hour sit in the hospital recliner. I don’t know which will kill me first, the shots or the chronic disease.
People for the most part have wised up and are forgoing the boosters, even though many of them still will not admit we anti-vaxxers were right.
Fauci was just on TV bellyaching about people not getting the boosters.
That to me shows criminal intent, because anyone who made honest mistakes about the efficacy and safety of the shots would be discouraging their use, like Dr. Malhotra is doing.
My theory as to why people habitually complain and constantly feel disappointed is from failing to understand very basic and elementary life cycle dynamics.
Like living beings, organizations, associations and governments are born, mature, age and die. Jefferson, Franklin and so many others have either forewarned, advised or concluded the same exact sentiment over the ages.
The USA began to die the moment the ink was dry. As a legally recognized construct able to impose law, negotiate on behalf of citizens and incur incumbered debt, the gamesters got to work.
Rght out of the box, Hamiltons crew bribed/negotiated representstives to have the newly formed nation redeem the worthless continental scrip his group had cornered, a classic insiders move prefacing Biden et al 250 years later.
Being upset about the core facts of life is typically judged as juvenile and immature. The triumvirate of party, police and media running and controlling an immensely profitable racket was easily predictable and developed just as expected.
If you understand this process you can score a two-fer: don’t waste either time or mental energy, but rather just watch, observe and score. It’s actually quite trivial; all it takes is a final divorce from belief and a firm embrace of reality.
fact – hamilton’s assumption of debt was the original crime that got us under the thumb of the london bankers for keeps.
“a national debt is a blessing”
if only they could have seen the outcome of hamilton’s intentional, evil folly.
Sure, in time nations ‘die’ but their existence lives on as an influence beyond their stint on earth. That is the point you did not mentioning. Also, that the influence can be positive one with an upward arc or its contrary.
(Sorry, mention)
My ex-girlfriend explaining why she wouldn’t water the plants: They going to die anyway. I need the time and attention for myself.
I’m sure you can dig this attitude, Mitch.
@ Jarek:
“The” plants? Why not just come out and say you asked her why she didn’t water YOUR plants?
Obviously, a person who is indifferent to watering plants did not purchase them in the first place. Hence it is safe to assume that they were your plants and not her plants.
Did you also ask her why she didn’t clean up the dog shit that your dog deposited on the carpet? Or why she didn’t clean up the mess from when your dog tore up the trash? Or why she didn’t clean your cat’s litter box?
I also have the impression that you should be dating people your own age.
Notice the one GF he might have had (if this isn’t fiction like so much of what he says), was also completely uninterested him or listened to his orders.
Read the Secret Life of Plants, Anthea.
Mary, get a life.
I have a great life, Jarek.
It would appear you have none. Sorry you preferred your plants to the needs of your girlfriend. Maybe you’d still have both if you weren’t so wrapped up in your self-righteous bloviating bullshit.
I’m just curious as to whether ‘I need the time and attention for myself’ is actually what she said or a mansplaining extrapolation for the benefit of readers.
I just can’t imagine anyone saying that, unless their house is an actual jungle and it takes hours to water everything.
@ MaryQueen:
I think the problem is that Jarek assumes that the presence of a girlfriend in his life relieves him of all responsibility; he now has a mommy to water his plants, and doubtless provide free maid service by doing countless other chores. I wonder if Jarek also employed that other age-old male favorite ploy of oversleeping, being late for work, and blaming his girlfriend for not waking him.
It’s the ‘why keep a dog and bark yourself?’ philosophy.
Prince Charles, as was, famously used to talk to his plants.
It’s a wonder they didn’t curl up and die.
One who is trustworthy in little things may be found to be trustworthy in greater things. One who is not, isn’t worthy of anything, certainly not further attention, much less greater responsibility.
Alba: “mansplaining”. Shame on you. This is hate speech. You’re being dragged down by the feminists.
I feel terribly shamed and don’t know how I’ll get through my dinner (duck, since you ask – yum, maybe I’ll manage).
Hate speech. Good one (and a nice deflection). Had no idea you were one of those woke snowflakes. But we live and learn. Unless you assure me the lady in question used those actual words, my point stands. If you fib, you will be called to account, but not by me. I will have moved on.
@ Jarek:
While I can’t claim to be a botanist, I am pretty confident that I have forgotten more about plants than you are ever likely to know.
However your original post that your girlfriend said she didn’t water the plants because, “They are going to die anyway,” is interesting. Why did she say that? Sounds to me like she knows from experience that all your plants always die.
Could it be that, because it was your expectation that these plants would also die, you wanted to shift the blame for this onto her by making her responsible for them? Of course, if she had turned out to be another Luther Burbank, you would have taken the credit for the success–while inwardly resenting her for being more competent than you.
If you want to grow a plant that you virtually can’t kill, I would suggest the Aspidistra, which thrives on neglect, needs little light, and doesn’t care if you never water it. Then you can sing this song:
The Biggest Aspidistra in the World
For years we had an aspidistra in a flower pot
On the whatnot, near the ‘atstand in the ‘all
It didn’t seem to grow ’til one day our brother Joe
Had a notion that he’d make it strong and tall
So he’s crossed it with an acorn from an oak tree
And he’s planted it against the garden wall
It shot up like a rocket, ’til it’s nearly reached the sky
It’s the biggest aspidistra in the world
We couldn’t see the top of it, it got so bloomin’ high
It’s the biggest aspidistra in the world
When father’s had a snoot full at his pub, ‘The Bunch of Grapes’
He doesn’t go all fighting mad and getting into scrapes
No, you’ll find him in his bear-skin playing Tarzan of the apes
Off the biggest aspidistra in the world
We have to get it watered by the local fire brigade
So they put the water rates up half a crown
The roots stuff up the drains, grow along the country lanes
And they came up half a mile outside the town
Once we hired an auditorium for a hot house
But a jealous rival went and burnt it down
The tom cats and their sweethearts love to spend their evenings out
Up the biggest aspidistra in the world
They all begin meowing when the buds begin to sprout
From the biggest aspidistra in the world
The dogs all come around for miles, a lovely sight to see
They sniff around for hours and hours and wag their tails with glee
So I’ve had to put a notice up to say it’s not a tree
It’s the biggest aspidistra in the world.
Oh wow, Jarek went the “hate speech” route.
One wonders if he believes in thought crime, as well.
They’re pretty much the same thing so I’ll guess “yes.”
Janos busy making online friends, again?
🙂
haha
Alba: It’s a hateful way to talk, Alba. Look up the male MP who chastised a female MP who used that on him.
Pete: Yes, she refused to water my cyber plants.
What’s a hateful way to talk?
So, did the lady in question use those actual words or didn’t she? All I’m seeing is deflection.
Hamilton was a real SOB who never really quit being British. Of course he’s the “founder” that is most revered these days. Or promoted through that stupid play with the black Hamilton.
They sure pushed that one, didn’t they?
Almost as if there was a reason for playing up Hamilton as the best founding father ever.
Well, ladies and germs;
The Lottery is this PM. What would you do with the largess?
I would take the 30 year payout. Before taxes, it would equate to approximately five million dollars a month. I would then proceed to give the majority of it away.
Veterans hospitals,
Animal Shelters.
2nd Amendment organizations.
Food banks.
I figure, that I could give 2 million dollars a month away to legitimate entities that would limit my tax burden to almost nothing.
The remaining would be spent on hookers and blow.
I would take the 30 year payout. – elysian
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I’m glad you brought up this topic. i.e. if you won the big jackpot would you take the lump sum up front or take the annuity? No doubt you’ve noticed that almost nobody takes the 30 year payout. And why is that? I say, because people are virtually certain the payout will be defaulted upon.
i.e. reneged
Q,
Powerball reneging? Probably not. Casinos rarely cheat, because to be exposed would be costly for what is essentially a sure thing, a guaranteed income if managed properly.
No reneggers at this level.
What’s with 75-85 year-olds’ obsession and fantasy of what they’d do with a billion dollars? I see this all the time.
Newsflash: you’re not gonna live long enough to enjoy it, or even see the fruits of your philanthropy.
Old age (I’m recently retired) should be a time of downsizing even more, and caring even less about scrambling for, and dreaming about, money. What a waste of one’s few remaining years.
In other cultures, the old often went on spiritual quests, either in their own rooms or on pilgrimages.
The lottery is often called a tax on the poor by do-gooders. It’s actually a tax on the idiotic. Just on principal alone, you’re giving at least half your outlay directly to the various levels of gov’t. The U.S. is one of the only countries in the world where it’s illegal to purchase lottery tix outside the country from within the country. They want the sin tax all to themselves.
Of course, the sour joke in all this is that your truckloads of winning dollars will (sooner rather than later) barely pay for the proverbial loaf of bread anyway.
what they’d do with a billion dollars? – Soul For
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If it was only a billion dollars I wouldn’t bother but now it’s 1.9 billion dollars.
Of course, the sour joke in all this is that your truckloads of winning dollars will (sooner rather than later) barely pay for the proverbial loaf of bread anyway. – Soul For
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That’s the challenge Soul, staying ahead of or even with inflation.
“Newsflash: you’re not gonna live long enough to enjoy it, or even see the fruits of your philanthropy.”
Soul,
I am not looking for the fruit of philanthropy…nor any enjoyment it might bring.
Perhaps a thread of altruism?
I think old people daydreaming about improving their lives enrages SF even more than seeing the happy family in the diner that time.
We know he hates females who stand up for themselves.
What other class of humans does SF despise, I wonder?
elysian,
I suppose I’m more selfish than you. I’d definitely want to know that my choice of charity was able or willing to carry out the wished-for benefits, whether for people or the Earth or oceans.
When New York State switched to the lump sum or over time options for its Lotta game, they started asking when you purchased your ticket, which option you’d prefer.
A man ahead of me in line in the convenience store declared he’d take the payments- the lump sum would be “too much drugs and alcohol’.
Oh and btw Q – damn you – to explain is not to justify. If she can’t go to another woman’s house without bringing a gift of some kind, she should have arranged that on her own time, not sacrifice her boyfriend’s birthday evening to do so.
@ Jarek:
It is customary to bring a hostess gift when being entertained in someone else’s home. (You didn’t know that, did you?)
So…. Tell us how much advance notice of this gathering you gave your girlfriend? Enough, I assume to allow her time to shop for a gift? Like several days?
Ant: I’m talking about a case I found online. The little gathering was over at his parents house and they were already late. She refused to stop looking for a cake – which his mother had already procured.
She was ignoring him and then started talking about going to another store. She had no right to ruin HIS night. He’s a person too you see – you hateful creature.
I don’t know how much warning she had. I assume it was just an informal event in any case, just them and the parents. Certainly no need to buy a second birthday cake of all things! The real faux pas was the way she was acting with her boyfriend – oh yeah, him again.
He raised his voice to her. She still didn’t snap out of it. He then just said simply, I’m boing. Bye. She submitted and followed meekly. He handled it well, but she revealed some true colors, real bad ones. Something for him to think about.
This isn’t something a mature adult whines about.
Q,
I’d take the 30 year option. If you took the lump sum, where would you feel safe “investing” it? Powerball will probably remain well funded long after I am gone. I would give it away while alive, and have annuities drawn up for my favorite causes to be paid after my death.
Oh, and the “hookers and blow”? It is a metaphor for HOOKERS AND BLOW….
where would you feel safe “investing” it? – ely
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land, short term govt bonds, gold and silver.
Q,
You gonna spend 700 million on the short term? You’re older than I am. Govt. bonds and notes? Yeah, on this I agree. Land, gold? How you gonna protect either?
“…Q gots 1000 lbs of gold up at his place…let’s go visit him….”
If you win the lottery, you would do well to be both mo-bile and hos-tile.
I’d find some land to buy in a temperate climate & build a community of separate dwellings and invite all my friends who are interested to move there. We would aim for self-sufficiency, raise our own food, etc.
Blue, purple, and pink haired ladies. Diversity!
I don’t know any ladies with pink blue or purple hair. Apparently, you do? Being in the trans cult/MRA movement as you are.
You admitted many of your associates “tint”. Remember?
One day on the bus I saw a poor tom clark type schmoe utterly smitten by a silver haired lady with a blue tint. He couldn’t resist complimenting her. She ignored the schmoe completely although they were obviously of the same NPR listening tribe.
You really do like to expose your stalker tendencies, don’t you? Might want to be more careful on the interwebs.
“One day on the bus I…”
Jarek,
You use public transportation?
You have my sympathy.
A Florida retirement town with farming. A much better use for golf courses I agree.
Those places are elderly crime ridden ghettoes. A Black will be quietly reading a book on a park bench and a pack of elderly goons in souped up, motorized wheel chairs will assault him and take the book away.
Q got Peter out of there before he was forced to join a gang.
I think the American Flags on the wheel chairs double as whips.
No, they are attached to scythes. See the movie, Spartacus.
Communism? Benign Dictatorship? Ancient Greek- style Democracy? How would this Utopian Lottery Village operate?
How do other neighborhoods operate?
The bizarre responses to my ‘plan’ just shows how deranged some of the commenters here are.
How could anyone possibly be offended by this plan?
And yet…
@ MaryQueen:
I used to dream of starting a community along those lines. My idea was that each family would own 5-10 acres. If I had all that money, I would also provide a modest house. It wouldn’t have to be friends of mine, necessariy–just families who could use (and wanted) the kind of leg-up that owning a home provides–and also the benefit of being able to grow a lot of your own food.
Now I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be wiser to organize a community more along Amish lines, with everyone owning enough acreage for a real farm, and, preferably, shared religious beliefs. I think it would be wise to take roughly the same attitude that the Amish do to many modern conveniences. So I’d have to provide every family with horses and a buggy–and horse-drawn farm equipment.
For the community to be viable, I’d have to have some kind of system for helping people start businesses–and enough money in reserve to bankroll that.
I suspect I’d get few takers of such an offer, except for scammers, and the whole scheme would be a bitch to administer.
My community would be small and it would consist of people who know each other, so that would probably cut down on problems and there wouldn’t be scammers or spongers. I don’t have any friends who are con artists.
Damn I folded after buying two tickets, I thought for sure someone would’ve won on Saturday.
Now I gotta go buy another.
Nothing for your race? That’s simply criminal
Janos,
Everything for the culture. Veterans, in general, are the best of the best.
Especially when they fight against other White nations – calling them “huns”.
Jarek,
The culture of the veteran is nationalistic in nature. Rarely will you see a shot-caller at a veteran’s hospital…they do as their leaders direct.
You are nationalistic, as am I.
Ein Volk,
Ein Reich
Yes, the people are lost without real leaders. Real warriors don’t simply take orders of course. Alas, soldiers are mostly just unthinking joe blow types. This is the Kali Yuga.
animal shelters? people breed to many ‘pets’.
Maybe so. All the more need for the shelters.
You are awesome for wanting to help animals in shelters. 🙂
Backyard breeders are especially evil. Then if no one buys their puppies they dump them at the shelter.
That explains why my sister had to travel so far to get a dog, Mary.
The shelter in San Jose only had pit bulls and chihuahuas and she didn’t want either. I assumed it was because the kind of people who want those breeds of dogs are too irresponsible to neuter them, but maybe they are from backyard breeders.
Yeah Jim Republicans are sure going to go after big Pharma !
Ooopps
Republican Sens. James Lankford (Okla.), Mike Lee (Utah), Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.) and Marco Rubio (Fla.) introduced the “Protecting Drug Innovation Act” on Friday Oct 7th, saying they wanted to pull back government authority over the prices of drugs covered by Medicare.
Mo Profits
Skunks.
Disband the FDA Act?
This is what I mean about both parties absolutely sucking.
“And so, the midterm election plods to a climax on elephant feet.”
Last week, Joe Biden announced that the election results would need to be delayed in order to achieve the desired outcome. The current Pennsylvania vote-counting delay strategy is a blueprint for what will be used in many other states.
It remains to be seen if stalling the vote count will allow the Democrats to successfully rig an election that is supposed to end less than 24 hours after Tuesday’s blood moon.
Tom Luongo has a theory that a bunch of election results will be delayed, the country will be in political chaos/limbo, and during this “interregnum” the russkies will make a move in Ukraine.
A problem I see with this scenario is that it looks like the ground in Ukraine is going to take about a month to freeze.
Doesn’t mean that the election results will not be held up, or held hostage, for some other reason. Like, finding or fixing a few more ballots. . . .
The delay of the election results will cause a lot of stress that might boil over into some mostly peaceful disturbances. It remains to be seen if there will be a Russian reaction to the election stalemate.
And tomorrow night is the full moon. That should help things!
And a full moon with the Sun in Scorpio and the Moon in Taurus, at that!
I’m not well versed in astrology, but I guess that means we’re gonna get stung and gored?
Heh heh
JHK leading by [ excellent ] example – pray then vote.
If you won’t vote, at least pray.
I still voted Republican in the 2nd bluest state in the country, an exercise equal to yelling at the wind.
Or a cliff at the seashore bearing the waves for ages.
Which state is that?
IMO it is not “yelling at the wind.”
It is adding a drop of purple.
In fact, what is the point of voting blue in a blue state? None at all. The whole point is to add a drop of purple. If that is the result you want to see.
Many states are going purple.
It is very selfish to refuse to vote and do one’s part. It is a sign of pathological individualism.
Overestimate of one’s own importance. Desire to be important. All of the talk about “doesn’t change anything” is a facade narrative for this “I want to be more important than I am” syndrome.
Selfish not to vote?
Hahahahahahahahaha!
Vote if you want, stop telling others what to do.
People who vote are the ones putting stickers on themselves bragging that “I voted!” oooh goody for you! How self-important is that? Then there is you being all self-important about voting, yet can’t refute – at all – what I said, that we are offered two piles of billionaire funded mouthpieces to vote for. Isn’t it SOOOO empowering to pick one of those piles of shit?
Go on ahead, Islander: Feel all special about your special ‘vote,’ and allow others to make their own choices.
Hey, Trump was a def. Outsider in DC – billionaire or not – and he rocked their world. If the Republicans had had a pair, things would have progressed differently, yes?
Islander disgraced herself Sunday, but it is more than making up for Monday.
For once I agree with you.
She has crushed you. Your alliance lies in tatters, especially after you stabbed Night Owl in the back by supporting Bill.
Nah. We cannot agree on everything, Jarek.
If Mary wants to think Bill would not have seen her off in a cattle car, that is fine.
It matters not that he was calling many of her sentiments (also expressed by me) nutjob conspiracy theory.
Bill never meant any of that, you see. He agreed with us the entire time — except when reminded that he not only knelt when told to, but actively participated in some of the worst evil in moder history.
Give him a hand!
Actually no, I don’t get emotionally involved with people up here and I don’t try to create alliances.
But that statement sure reveals a helluva lot about you.
No one believes that, Mary.
Night Owl: You’re right. He’s a nice person but nice people behave in terrible ways all the time.
Illinois where incumbent Democrats pick their own opponents.
I’ve been wondering lately whether these midterms will be more “theater” in the sense that since the narrative regarding the 2020 election was “there’s no evidence of election fraud,” and many people believed that, that the 2022 election, which has been predicted to be a Red Wave for months now, will end up w/ Dems winning after all, which will then be the last straw for many and will convince people that elections are (and have been) fraudulent, and perhaps precipitate the civil way that is much desired by the Elites that run things. I guess we’ll see pretty soon…
When you break it down, does it matter all that much if one shitty party cheats the other shitty party? Either way, we get to choose between 2 absolutely crappy and useless parties.
I think Zeldin will win in NY, because Hochul is so absolutely horrible ahe is making the Democrats look as awful as they are. She’s blowing their cover.
Anybody find it strange that Chuckie is up for reelection and nobody’s talking about defeating him?
Right on cue with the nihilism!
More like realism.
On these elections, Armstrong is the Go To guy. I think he is saying the elections don’t matter because no one will accept the results anyway… it’s almost SURREAL.
If Schwab is barely plausible, what about Harari? The madman is ranting openly that the world has far too many useless human beings.
Ehrlich, who’s still around (90), warned us 54 years ago in ‘The Population Bomb’. Numbers were left to more than double including, sadly, the birth of crazies like Prof. Harari. Richard Heinberg 20 yrs ago suggested a voluntary 1.5-child policy … well, it could get us down to a billion or two by 2100.
Fauci looks OK for his age unlike Gates. If it’s true he takes a high vit.D supplement, and he eats healthy food, he’ll probably be around to charge and sentence to life imprisonment for another 20-25 years.
Just think of the long lives of other ultra-rich people … Queen Elizabeth II 96, her husband 99, David Rockefeller 102, Henry Kissinger 99 not out …
What the hell is a 1.5 child policy?
I agree that the earth is overpopulated and birth control should be encouraged, but what is 1.5 children?
It’s a statistical thing, Paula. Not really something you’d be interested in. It’s not a child and a half in other words.
Now does the above post make me take Paula more or less seriously when she talks about all of these viruses not only being seen but mapped out?
How would it work?
Two couples agree that one has two kids and one has one?
That seems cumbersome and unworkable.
Therefore it is not a viable program to suggest to a population.
No, when considering hundreds of millions of people, if some couples have less than two, the number will come out to one and a fraction. Similarly, if some have more than two, it comes out to 2.1 or so – the number that maintains the population as it is. Why? Because many women don’t marry and/or can’t have children or couples choose not to do so. So? So some have to have more than two to make up for it.
A good object lesson in numbers. What makes sense at the personal or sensorial level of existence, simply doesn’t cut it at the level of trying to govern a large nation.
Thus people who try to argue from themselves or the people they know (friends, neighbors, family) to the aggregate are always going to get things wrong. Chick philosophy though of course many men do this too.
Of course your point stands too: the greater truth doesn’t make sense at the personal level either.
Different kinds of thinking for different numbers of things? As in “scaling”? Who would have thought?
Also different kinds of thinking are needed for different kinds of things. Don’t expect the precision of mathematics in engineering – what to speak of the humanities. So the humanities are bunk, right? That’s what we’re up against. Different kinds of people have no understanding or respect for other kinds.
And this is all in a monocultural and racial society. Think adding different races and religions helps? Especially ones who never attained any heights of intellectual culture? How about ones who have been abused by the culture they are entering? Helpful?
I know how it works, Jarek. I’m simply saying that it is not a good proposal to present to the population because it doesn’t work on a family level.
Telling people that they should have 1.5 children is a non-starter of an idea.
I think that the two child family idea they pushed for a while is better. As you say, there are enough people who don’t want any children to make it work out.
Actually it did work out. If our ruling overlords hadn’t opened up the borders the US would have a stable population about what it was in 1970,
Obviously it suits them to stuff more people into this country, no matter what the sensible people say.
Oh ok. Yes, people need to be given simple advice not statistics meant for large scale planning. Many did follow the two child plan and then were betrayed when America opened the Southern border. We could have easily stated at 220 million, and 90% White.
It could be organized as a lottery system for a second child.
It is just statistics, Paula.
For heaven’s sake.
I’m sure Harari doesn’t include himself in the list of people who should be wiped from the planet. He’s on my list, though!
Just think of the long lives of other ultra-rich people … Queen Elizabeth II 96, her husband 99, David Rockefeller 102, Henry Kissinger 99 not out …
you didnt mention
buffett
munger
soros
but thats 7 out of 8 billion.
My cigar chain smoking Judo coach lived to be 101.
We called him Mori, but I believe that was short for Fujimori.
Speaking of short the man was 5’2″ and had hands like steel vices once he got ahold of you, he would hip toss you to the center of the earth.
Miss that guy he was a real character.
I keep hearing that we shouldn’t worry about diesel fuel shortages—-that supplies will be replenished in time to avoid disaster. I’m not sure what to believe, quite frankly.
I was talking to the cashier in my local supermarket, briefly, about how bad the prices are getting, and she said she thought they were using the covid as an excuse for what was going on.
People paid to think don’t catch on as fast as people paid to do things.
At some point, one of these days, shortages will be directly supply related, and it seems plenty likely diesel could be the first to run into actual supply (out of the ground, not processing) issues.
I am wondering what happens when the diesel rubber hits the road with our ferry system.
“Threat to ‘our democracy?’ The effrontery!”
You cannot have a threat against something that does not exist. The Indispensable Nation does not HAVE a democracy… therefore there is no threat against it.
The Indispensables are Subjects ruled over by a tiny hidden few. What is actually being threatened is the health and welfare and future of the Subjects. The Hidden Ones always do fine.
“Is censorship and abridging the First Amendment democratic?”
This is evidence of Frank Zappa’s famous quote: “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery…”
Everywhere we look these days, They are taking down the scenery. And They want to take us down with it.
“They’re so far gone ethically and so deep in criminality carried out by so many persons and agencies in their service, that everything you see them do now is some attempt to cover-up their crimes…”
When one is surrounded by evil-like deeds, thoughts, and actions… pretty soon these become normalized to the ones drowning in such garbage. It becomes One Great Big Bad Cult. Uniformity of thought. Following orders. Not ever going outside the lines. And these deluded souls re-enforce the pathology to each other and forbid anyone to leave the Cult. In other words… doing evil becomes just another day at the office and has no particular impact on the thoughts of these people. Evil is fully normalized and becomes Their default setting for Life.
“… Dr. Anthony Fauci, seems to think that retirement will erect an invisible shield from prosecution around him — if he lives long enough.”
No one will ever touch the Fraudster. He is the poster boy for the entire Plandemic and Big Pharma Toxic Injection saga. They worked tirelessly to erect the false narratives around this Public health atrocity and They will never give that narrative up. The Big Pharma Medical Industrial Complex Cabal still owns the United States Incorporated government officials in total and will decide what gets said about this and what doesn’t.
“… lead to an extinction event for the Dems. Their desperation must be such that they will try anything now to stave off an election disaster, including any-and-all forms of ballot fraud.”
You don’t need ballot fraud if the vote-tally software is in some black box that can be controlled by forces off-shore (or on-shore). Who the hell really knows what’s in that dark software and how it can be manipulated. They don’t have to worry about ‘votes’ when they can just plug totals into the black box as they please.
Asking Democrats to “Save Democracy” is like Doctor ‘The Science!’ begging to call a National press conference and fully confess his sins and spill his guts about what he and others have done to the health and welfare of Americans and our businesses and mental stability and the future of our children. Makes for a pleasant fantasy to warm one’s thoughts as the Winter cold of weather and National bankruptcy descends upon our Nation.
“I’m not much of a praying man, but…”
This is what Jimmy Stewart said in It’s A Wonderful Life… just before he got socked in the nose and laid out on the floor.
I thought of Frank Zappa’s prediction as I read today’s essay, also.
America’s not a Democracy, was never intended to be, and that’s a good thing given human nature.
We were intended to be a Constitutional Republic. You think that they’re the same or something? Well they’re not. People can’t just vote out the Bill of Rights. They would if they could you know – if it was phrased right.
Jarek: “People can’t just vote out the Bill of Rights. They would if they could you know – if it was phrased right.”
People can’t vote out the Bill of Rights at the ballot box. But millions of WokeAmericans have already voted out The Bill with their thoughts, deeds, and actions. What is on paper somewhere and that which represents a line of thinking and a philosophy can just be ignored. And that is what’s happening today with millions of Great American Wokesters.
They hate ‘rights’ of any kind except for the ‘right’ to follow Their crowd, divorce yourself from Reality, and work to fully deny others of their God-given Rights of which the Bill is a mere shadow.
They do believe in the Right to ‘Follow Orders!’ and turn off one’s brain and sense of ethics.
Ok then! So you admit Democracy is crap.
Jarek: “So you admit Democracy is crap.”
Thousands of years of Earth history has conclusively proven that a good form of government has still not been invented. And given human nature — likely will never be.
“Thousands of years of Earth history has conclusively proven that a good form of government has still not been invented. And given human nature — likely will never be.”
That’s a cop-out, no answer at all.
People have to be governed. Anarchy will quickly descend into Mad Max. And despite the utopian experiments (all of which have ultimately failed, even in their simplest, most small-scale operations), all forms of gov’t are vertical.
When TSHTF in earnest, vertical govt’s will form willy-nilly. So it’s a question of: what is the best form in an array of imperfect options? Abstaining from an opinion doesn’t mean you’re not involved in the outcome.
Unbridled authoritarianism doesn’t work. Neither does its putative opposite, democracy.
We need a form of aristocracy. Some argue for monarchism, others for nationalism, others for theocracy, others for a mix of trusted spiritual and intellectual leaders.
Ideally, it will be organic. Whites, naturally, will have a better chance in making a go of it.
Because of your cosmic names, sometimes I conflated you two in my mind. But how different you are! The palm goes to Soul. The Shaman has been defeated most ingnomiously.
Soul Forensics: “That’s a cop-out, no answer at all. People have to be governed. Anarchy will quickly descend into Mad Max.”
That’s what the problem has always been. People just assuming that they ‘have’ to be governed from ‘outside’. Maybe that’s what School Earth is all about. Learning to government YOURSELF properly. Not really on the cop-out that we ‘have’ to be governed by someone else who does not have our interests at heart. While we do act like animals – yes we need Keepers. But that assumes we never grow up and we stay animals. The easy way out… staying babies that need Nannies.
Do truly evolved persons in History need to be ‘governed’. Hell no. They have learned to be the best governors for themselves.
“… what is the best form in an array of imperfect options? Abstaining from an opinion doesn’t mean you’re not involved in the outcome.”
I advocate for growing beyond the Animal Nature and becoming Young Adults in the Cosmic pecking order. Not just handing over our God-given gifts of Life to outsiders. That’s not Anarchy. That is growing up to be a responsible Leader of your own accord.
That may not be a popular opinion… but then I’ve never had great use for Popular Opinion.
“Do truly evolved persons in History need to be ‘governed’. Hell no. They have learned to be the best governors for themselves.” — Roundball Shaman
To use your own argument against you, given the long track record regarding human nature, the vast majority of people will never be even adequate governors of themselves.
Soul Forensics: “… given the long track record regarding human nature, the vast majority of people will never be even adequate governors of themselves.”
‘Never’ is a really, really long time in Cosmic terms. Hard to make long-term judgments about that. Does the task seem massive? Of course it looks that way to many. But that’s why we live in School Earth.
If humans can ‘never’ transcend animal nature then there truly is no hope for our species. And one day… we will destroy ourselves. I prefer to think that we can evolve beyond our base nature and make something of ourselves. Some people in history have done this… so this proves it can be done. But people have to want this before they can embark on this quest.
If we don’t… the Planet gets a flush and reset and we all sit around in some post-Earth realm talking about how we should have tried much harder.
Learn to self-govern [ if we would judge ourselves we would not be judged ]
“Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”
Is “so you admit” your favorite crybully tactic? You use it often enough.
LOL.
And yet he took the bait and a fine discussion ensued between two other posters.
Wrong again, kweeeen!
Will you admit that you use “so you admit” all the time? And that it’s a tactic? Come on, Jarek. You can do it.
“Will you admit that you use “so you admit” all the time? And that it’s a tactic?” — MaryQ
Will you admit that you use “LOL!” all the time, as if it’s an actual argument clincher, and even though you’re not laughing at all?
What? You don’t think I am laughing at you guys?
Well, first of all, saying “So you admit” to someone when they did nothing of the kind is untruthful.
“So you admit” is a challenge to debate since it is debating language.
The Ladies, being enamoured of argument but ignorant of debate, don’t have a clue about this.
They are good at showing their ignorance!
Well, I just looked it up, and it’s a phrase highly favored by narcissists.
Yet another red flag.
Vaccinated people could be releasing spike proteins by air. This is called shedding and documented in pfizer’s released files. I talked with people and read stories online that some unvaccinated people are experiencing headaches, stomachaches, itching sensation in throat, need to cough, smelling weird parfume like smells whenever they are near vaccinated people. I personally started to experience headache when I go in crowded areas. Graphene hydroxide in their body are amplifying wireless signals to terahertz level. Literally every vaccinated person becomes like walking antennas. This and spike proteins could be causing us to experience these symptoms. We need to take care of ourselves with much causion because threat is real. You can get ivermectin to detox your body by visiting getmeivm.com
I have been told similar things.
I went to a med tech talk last week.
I forget the name of the sponsor [star burst?].
The asian female MD spoke of working w Gates etc to create a vaccine that self boosts. no need for boosters.
The impenetrably entrenched tech-worshippers might be the real enemies over anyone else. The energy optimists, messianic nuclearists, transhumanists, maximalists, space-miners, green revolutionists, economic growthists, complex civilizationists, pro-industrialists, prosperity pushers… all part of one great darkness poisoning everything now. So many more are a part of this group than realize it.
Imagine the water supply, etc.
I’ve gotten very bad headaches a coupole of times after I knew I had been around people who are vaxxed. My next-door neighbor had to stop attending his (heavily vaxxed) church because he always got a raging headache immediately after services–they would set in on the drive home. A friend of mine got a raging headache from going to his vaxxed barber, plus on side of his head swelled up. I almost never get headaches–and never severe headaches.
I will say that other unvaxxed people in the family haven’t gotten headaches or other symptoms from being around their vaxxed relatives or in-laws. It seems to hit some people and not others. But it’s very real.
I haven’t spoken to my brother-in-law in Dublin for many months. He was raging because I cc’d him into an email to my husband and his sister in response to a stupid email my husband sent me (cc’d to his sister) which was some nonsense excusing jab effects (trying to demonstrate they weren’t jab effects). I provided some informative links, within my narrative.
Since I found out he was mad at me, I have avoided picking up the phone when I’ve seen his name. I just leave my husband to answer or leave him to call back when hubby is in. We used to have great chats – he’s very funny.
Anyway, this morning I answered the phone, since it was just a number, but it was him, phoning from a Dublin hospital where he is being treated for a pulmonary embolism.. He’s 52. Another one that won’t be reported. I hardly need say he made no connection.
The rate of unreported injury has never gone down, for a year and a half now, I think.
I seem to only get headaches while around very liberal people.
It’s almost like they open their mouths and the barometric pressure increase or decreases depending on how empty headed they are.
Careful they don’t ‘shed’ their lunacy on you by aerosol or skin contact, benr. 🙂
But the spikes don’t seem to be able to enter the system at a deep level and begin reproducing. That’s a very good thing or else the world would be over. Including the Elite unless they were prepared to isolate until everyone was dead.
Re: US government acting like psychopathic evil monsters and not realizing that normal people are appalled…
Alex Christoforou reports that the “Biden” White House has told the Zelensky regime to announce publicly that they are open to negotiations. The report hastens to add that Zelensky was told not to actually negotiate, just to announce willingness.
The stated reason was that the White House is hearing from non-psychopathic leaders that they are over Ukraine and want peace. Therefore the plan is to lie in order to get them back in line.
They don’t seem to realize that normal people are appalled by lying, deception and treachery.
And Jake Sullivan is reported to be warning Russia not to “escalate”.
This from a country which is openly soliciting weapons from myriad sources to send to Ukraine in order to kill Ukrainians and Russians, a country which just announced $400 million more in weapons on top of the $75 billion sent this year, which brags about providing logistical and tactical support to the Ukies, and which also brags about the Himarrs ”game changing” missiles, which the Ukies are using to target civilians in Donetsk and other cities.
This country is telling the Russians not to escalate.
The absolute brazen hypocrisy involved in such reports is mind boggling.
I don’t think they realize anymore how normal people think, because they have gotten away with murder (and torture and looting) for so long that they don’t have to bother.
Or- they don’t think they have to.
I’ll see if this link goes through.
ww.youtube.com/watch?v=nl_Tb8Rt7ks
More proof that whatever they are accusing others of, they are themselves either doing or planning on doing.
Yes
Good post, Paula
Voting ought to be like going to the dentist to get a cavity filled. What is a cavity anyhow? It’s a hole that has formed in a tooth by decay from eating unwholesome food. How do you treat a cavity? Not by just filling in the hole, but by first drilling down into it and removing the rot that caused the tooth to decay, then filling the hole with amalgam or a more healthful material.
This is what a political solution must do. Not just fill in the hole with the other party, but first remove the rot and corruption, then replace them with people who care about an honest, open and caring political structure.
Nice analogy, Bill. Needless to say, we’re doing just the opposite of that, substituting one big money crook for another.
Good analogy, Bill, kinda like rearranging deck chairs on the Titantic. Good luck to the Republicans tomorrow. Can’t wait for them to spend the next two years complaining about why they can’t get anything done because of what the Dems did the previous 2 years. Both parties suck.
A Fourth Turning is in order.
You think the decline is due to a) sinister hidden forces and/or b) desperate criminals.
I don’t really think a kabbalah of co-conspiratorshas a lot of blame for our current predicament.
There are several ideological tendencies, all harmful to the ordinary white member of the western world, and they all have converged into an unlikely alliance. You have 1) what I’ll call the free-trading no-border economic right, that has decided to take advantage of the very uneven economic development state of the countries of the world to enrich themselves madly by arbitraging labour and others on a planetary scale; 2) the no-border woke left that has replaced the proletariat with the non-(straight white male) as the oppressed of history; and 3) curiously, the neo-cons who just want the US to bomb the world to make it safe for the turbo-capitalist elite.
These 3 groups are more or less open in their objectives, they’re not obeying a ruler or central committee, nothing more sinister is needed than occasional local surrounding adjustements, and yet their crowd-sourced, distributed synchronized swimming is tighter than that of a school of fish. There is no peace movement whatsoever in the moment, no one marching for “no war” even though talking heads are glibly discussing WWIII or nuclear war simply shrugging, so what, let’s shovel 60 billion more in weapons to Ukraine? The great corporations create nicely paid Diversity VPs and EDI departments and subsidize floats at Pride parades so the “left” clams up about offshoring another plant. The woke left clamors for Infinity Migrants, and the corporations get the cheap labour they want.
Their crowd-sourced, distributed synchronized swimming is tighter than that of a school of fish you say.
True, exploitation is how the world works many Americans think. Your three groups evolved from Americas legacy of colonialism and the totemic beliefs of a slave overseer.
There is no peace movement whatsoever in the moment you say. True and horrible it is.
How could there be? War is celebrated in the childhood of American boys and god is dead. Movies have brainwashed Americans for 100 years about the glories of war. It is what it is.
Lots of talk about Power-ball here. While riches are nice to have, being rich consists more of wanting less than of having more.
More for the Deep Staters and the lottery dreamers:
“The love of money grows as the money itself grows.”
— Juvenal
Contentment comes not so much from great wealth as from few wants. — Epictetus
Wealth is the slave of a wise man. The master of a fool. — Seneca
Spot on.
GO STOICS, Ryan Holiday would be proud.
CAPTAINS BLOG: PLANET HOLLYWOOD
The beings on this planet practice Jihad for something called ‘Trans-Benders bill of rights.’
My science officers Uhu and Yabu find it fascinating.
The COP 27 shindig kicked off in Cairo — right off the bat you notice the lack of young white coeds in the streets holding signs, raising hell, and blocking traffic — activity acceptable, even encouraged, last year at COP 26 in Scotland, probably deemed not such a good idea in 3rd world Cairo lol. India & China didn’t show up, nor did Greta. What’s on the agenda? It seems to be an enormous shakedown of the Wealthy White West, with a demand of $100 billion per year (for eternity) for the ‘Global South’, reparations due for Climate Damage caused by Industrial Civilization. Problem is, the West isn’t so wealthy anymore. No mention was made of the energy squeeze in Europe & NAmerica. Indeed, more cuts need to be made, more sacrifices endured, if we are to get to NET 0 by 2030. Representatives from the US & Great Britain — John Kerry especially –appear eager to fork over the schwag to the delight of the nodding 3rd World grifters in the international audience.
Promises promises. Telling the global south to go fuck themselves is not an effective way to keep the flow of resources to the mother county flowing.
People at COP 27 are making climate change into a career. Expect nothing of them.
Western powers also need to present a nice face while the people of Eastern Ukraine get it in the ass now don’t you know. Cognitive dissonance is the goal. What better than crocodile lies at a COP.
The murder of the global south is a planned activity.
Got it K-Dog
I saw a utube ad for some prop..dont vote for it.
the pro is from lyft-uber and wont solve climate change. newsom opposes the prop.
I got an email from the Woodwell Climate Center (used to be Woods Hole Research Center, focusing on study of world’s forests):
Subject line: Woodwell arrives in Sharm-El-Shiek
“Mark your calendars—Woodwell’s official COP27 side event Intertwined Fates: How the Arctic, Amazon, and Africa are connected and shape our climate future is this Wednesday at 8 am ET. Our scientists will be joining ***women youth activists from Global Choices’ Arctic Angels*** to bear witness to climate impacts in the Arctic and tropics, explore the global connectedness of our climate system, and discuss the choices we face to secure our climate future.”
I emailed back to them:
Re “Our scientists will be joining women youth activists from Global Choices’ Arctic Angels to bear witness to climate impacts ”
‘Why don’t you meet with *actual scientists* who dispute what you are alleging about ice formation in Greenland and the Arctic?
Plus, what you do have against men youth activists?
This sounds ridiculous.
+++++++++++
Just so they know that some people on their mailing list think this sounds ridiculous.
This Research institute used to be a wonderful institution but now totally captured by climate ideologues, as far as I can see.
No mention of the carbon footprint of flying to Egypt and of the sojourn there.
I emailed back to them: – Islander
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I got a hundred bucks says you’ll get no response to your email… but good on ya anyway.
Who said I expected a response?
Hoewever, it just so happens that I know this organization and I know who “info@” actually is.
So I know which staff member will see my email.
Wow, BRH.
There was an ‘interfaith’ ritual announced (since now the new religion is globalism). I posted it below.
And so the complaining just keeps keeping on. Global south, the new proletariat, colonial legacy …
Let me guess, when you go to the sea shore, you rail against the birds, seals, fish and all the other denizens of the deep minding their own business while hunting for their next meal.
It’s called life, it’s called competition over scarce resources, and no, just because we’re self aware (along every other species), nope, we’re special and unique, and expect our institutions to reflect our fantasy expectations of altruistic love and cooperation.
If you’re constantly unhappy and upset, maybe it’s you. Maybe it’s your unrealistic expectations, maybe it’s the fiends that programmed these false beliefs of imaginary beneficence into your young mind.
What would a commoner from any era up to 150 years ago – dating back to proto human troops – say in response to this behaviour?
Ixnay on the omplainingcay oolfay.
Today’s elites are not purely “social-darwinist” winners or classic predators.
They are partially that, but are also, moreso, colossal idiots. Their pride has overcome them. Pride in technological accomplishment and human “dominance” on Earth. They are, unwittingly (because of blindness) endangering the planet and the entire species. And, the main problem in the world now is that most people on Earth do NOT fundamentally oppose the industrialist elites. They bitch, moan, but most of all, demand the store shelves remain stocked with shiny, tasty things. That’s the story.
There are (practically) NO predator-winners operating right now, Sir Mitch; only stronger, luckier, elite idiots and weaker, poorer, dependent idiots.
To call contemporary elites classic predators is an insult to true predators everywhere.
True predators know better than to shit where they sleep and call it sculpture, or a pillow, or whatever
I have a hard time believing that except for your condescending comments here, you go through life smelling roses and oohing and aahing at butterflies and birdies.
lol, that gave me a vision of mc skipping through the tulips like Julie Andrews.
These are a few of my favorite things!
Hahahahaha!
“Nuth’n gunna happen to ANY of the “D[e]C[eit] Turd-Pond Sludgers of consequence” w/o a “[not-so] ‘civil’ v2.0 blood-letting”. “Bring it” and “return me [my] Home” (GFR – “Closer to Home”). Chi-com PLA UN blue-helmeted “clean-up” troops be damed! No FEAR/HATE when, “… where two or three [are] GATHER[ed] together …”, What/Who “abides”? “JC always before me/we” cuz … there are no atheists in foxholes or within defensive perimeters surrounded by gov Fast-&-Furious-armed roving gangs and/or desperate, displaced, UNrepenting/UNprepared “citYzens/coasters/urbies”. MAGA – “Make America Gracious/Grateful Again/Always” or toss it on the same ash-heap of all other failed empires. Ooo-rah. Psst, IRresponsible parents remaining in DemonRAT-controlled “schiff-holes” – guilty of child endangerment?
say what?
My sentiments exactly, Woodchuck. What makes a person want to write so incomprehensively?
@ Q. Shtik:
Aha! I don’t think “incomprehensively” is the word you are looking for, since it means “not comprehensive.”
Roasted by his own petard, I see..
I disagree. To me “incomprehensively” is the right word.
Hoisted, even, gustafson 😉
In the mother tongue, it is *hoist* by his own petard. 🙂
Q, you meant “incomprehensibly” I fear.
My research tells me this:
This word (incomprehensive) is listed in some online dictionaries, but not all. It is used rarely and should be considered with caution. As with many fringe words, people may see it as an error.
Incomprehensible is much more common. It is an adjective that means difficult or impossible to understand, or comprehend. A good synonym is unintelligible.
So I will concede “incomprehensibly” would have been correct.
I agree. ‘Comprehensive’ (as in insurance) means including everything necessary or appropriate, so its opposite would mean the opposite of that, if it were used at all.
The “leader” of our nation proves once again he is not fit for the job and has not been for years.
President Joe Biden Nearly STUMBLES Off Stage During Chaotic Rally In New York
Joe Biden gave a chaotic rally in New York over the weekend where he nearly fell off the event’s stage and also sparred back and forth with a heckler in the audience, RadarOnline.com has learned.
The sensational incident took place on Sunday as Biden made an appearance in Yonkers, New York to help endorse gubernational candidate and current NY Governor Kathy Hochul.
Hochul, who was named governor of New York following the resignation of disgraced former NY Governor Andrew Cuomo in August 2020, is running for her first full term against GOP rival and House Rep. Lee Zeldin on Tuesday.
But Sunday’s event started off poorly, and only grew worse as it went on, because President Biden almost fell off the stage just moments after walking up to speak.
“Oops, stepping on a – hmm – it’s black,” the 79-year-old president, who turns 80 later this month, said after regaining his balance. “Anyway…”
Then, shortly thereafter, President Biden was heckled by a protestor in the crowd at the event at Sarah Lawrence College.
“I know I don’t look it, but I’ve been around for a little while,” the president quipped before the heckler started yelling up at him.
Good grief Joe you look like a hundred year old man with massive amounts of plastic surgery.
Biden really looks quite ghoulish.
Even for a guy his age!
I know people over 80 who look and move a lot better than Biden.
Biden’s face is a horrible empty mask.
His eyes are both squinty and vacant.
I really would not want to run into him on a dark street.
Not a good look for Sleepy Joe. Soon he is off for Cairo himself, teaming up with Captain Planet, John Kerry, to sell out the United States.
He also is addicted to the old ‘grampaw’ jokes and he repeats them over and over and that makes him look like an even bigger fool.
I fear that he won’t make it to the coming spring, or early summer. I can’t believe I’m cheering on Joe to live. It’s only because Kamala will be much worse. She’s not yet 60 and sounds just as stupid, and sometimes more stupid than Joe. A few weeks ago she sounded so foolish I found myself disbelieving that she legitimately ever got a law degree. Much less passed the Bar.
Plus, she’s quite, quite nasty as a person. Gives Hillary a run for her money.
Sunak was hustled out of COP27 just before his scheduled address under mysterious circumstances.
Algeria formally applied for admission to BRICS+, thus putting a major dent in the collective West’s plans for North Africa.
The US has very little influence there, so I wouldn’t expect any sort of color revolution. They may try to prompt the Moroccans to engage in some type of border conflict.
Aren’t they already doing that?
I think they’re supporting terrorists in Morocco, but maybe I’m mixed up about that.
Tough turning 80, but congrats on at least getting that far. “Life is difficult. This is a great truth, one of the greatest truths. It is a great truth, because once we truly see this truth, we transcend it. Once we truly know that life is difficult and accept it, then life is no longer difficult. Because once it is accepted, the fact that life is difficult no longer matters.” M. Scott Peck, The Road Less Traveled, 1978.
Very true. I think you could go further and say that suffering is our dignity and our glory.
Politico appears to be releasing their very own Kraken and before the election no less.
Or at least Kraken like language.
It’s all very confusing when the progressive pundits on this very site have accused us all over tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theories.
politico.com/news/2022/10/14/wireless-modems-could-endanger-midterms-00061769
Odd with the threat of Democrats getting a complete and utter drubbing this is suddenly on the radar?
What happened to most fair, free, and secure election?
Folks this is actually being discussed.
Could it just be that Dems are just horrible?
Will they dare to pull another 2020 and will the American people tolerate yet another big steal or even the appearance of one?
Modems . . . which is why, paper ballots and hand counting by precinct.
Remember?
This modem angst looks like pre-programming.
In addition to the fact that of course all of the elctronic vote counting IS hackable.
So, why raise the alarm at this late date?
Why not after the previous election cycle . . .
Questions, questions . . .
If you tried opening BOTH eyes at once, you might get a better view of reality…
Oh, look it’s one of our online pals who warned us about questioning anything and doing so was tin hat tom foolery.
Could it be you need to open even just one eye?
A transhumanist is going to SAVE US! He bought TWITTER! He made Kathy Griffith shut up!
We are SAVED!!
Hallelujah!
Bwahahahahaha…..
Hah well you know what, it’s his company and he can do what he wants with it so there. It’s already so much better than before with people being able to speak more freely. I personally don’t make a habit of complaining about every little thing.
Worship those billionaires, SSL.
They have your best interests at heart, and never stop wondering what they can do for you.
Not a cult at all – wow:
https://fore.yale.edu/event/%E2%80%9CReturning-to-Mt.-Sinai%E2%80%9D-%E2%80%94-A-Prophetic-Call-for-Climate-Justice-and-Ceremony-of-Repentance
Mr Kunstler wites so well, creates sentences inspiring and real. If I could buy one of hids paintings it would be >Burton road in the fall.
Mr Kunstler wites so well, – paul s
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Yeah, he’s a great “witer.”
Didn’t JHK warn you about this particular brand of assholery?
Not if it’s incomprehensive.
Yes, James has warned him repeatedly.
It’s obvious the guy missed a letter whilst typing most people’s brains can fill in the missing letter in fact remove all the vowels and most people can still read that with little effort.
No, JHK said knock it off about correcting people. Obviously “wite” is a typo.
So – assholery on Q’s part (again).
And if he’s gonna correct people, maybe he shouldn’t make so many mistakes himself.
omg LOL
Life in the Anthropocene is difficult.
I liked it better when humans weren’t the center of the universe.
I agree.
However God has His own plans.
I don’t remember the Anthropocene very well. What was it like?
I was going to add, was it fun hunting, gathering, and being stalked by grizzlies or stomped on by mammoths?
I miss cuddling with wooly mammoths.
These calumnies the US continues to experience will last as long as the neo imperialists, security state & its war machine are allowed to possess the body and soul of our nation.
We are enslaved by a satanic elite which lives on greed and death. There is no God to people like the Clinton’s, Obama, Biden, Bill Gates, or Soros. There is only the Self, and the power they abuse to deny others their liberties, and lives.
Yes, vote tomorrow. It seems like a small thing, in a way. How can my little voice make any difference?
However big things often start with small beginnings.
No voting here.
I don’t dance when they clap.
That’s MY small beginning.
Resist just like I did the jab, the mask, and all their other demands.
I didn’t vote either for a long time.
Wow, yeah I really can’t agree more. What more can we do? Perhaps make calls or knock on doors for candidates we love. We’ll never reclaim anything by dropping out and becoming little atoms just floating out there. We are part of a body, of a society. Or a dance troupe if you wish to conceptualize it that way.
Well said
PA…that’s the Minnesotan in you comin’ thru, regardless of what happens here! Thanks for the upbeat message in spite of all the gloom and doom that seems to have taken over the world. By all means vote (if you haven’t already). It’s your right. Folks lamenting the loss of democracy won’t know what they’re missing ’til it’s gone. Let other mere humans like yourself fuss and fret over what should count and what shouldn’t and let the chips fall where they may.
Yes, Tom.
Our home, the snow globe that is about to be shook once again by God’s toadies– puts me in a very philosophical mood this time of year.
I voted this morning. It was here in my neighborhood in the rubble-filled city of Duluth, a chilly rain sweeping in over the town.
“If you go when the snowflakes storm
When the rivers freeze and summer ends
Please, see if she has a coat so warm
To keep her from the howlin’ winds…”
Here we go again. The Powerball Drawing is delayed due to “technical difficulties.” Whuts up with this bullshit?
The last time there were “technical difficulties” they never explained what those difficulties were.
I agree, so odd! I am working a long over night shift meeting the fine humans of my city as they beat, kill, and drug each other, so I took my dinner break at 2300 hours just to watch the Powerball draw. Many of our fellow health care workers want to leave, retire, and sadly the lottery is the way. It seems so odd, but as JHK describes its the current way of American life. Homer Simpson has come to our level of existence. Election day tomorrow, but as an old liberal ( not progressive) I don’t vote, I was once involved and both parties are the same, George Carlin said it best, if election matters the owners would not let you do it. Lunar eclipse, the illness at my job are real, respiratory viruses and we are over filled every night, patients in hallways, census average now 110%. But not to worry I think the old Gods led by Odin are returning, ok back to the Powerball draw!
Here is the lame explanation for the delay that I picked up on the internet:
According to the California Lottery, the delay is due to “a participating lottery needing extra time to complete the required security protocols. Powerball has strict security requirements that must be met by all 48 lotteries before a drawing can occur.”
If I don’t win this thing I’ll know the fix was in… same as if the dems don’t lose the House and Senate.
Once when I was teaching in a neighborhood with a lot of Mafia families, one of the kids mentioned that arrangements had been made for his family to win the lottery.
Odd that you mention that Anthea. I can’t conceive any way the lottery can be handicapped, however, how is it that Gambino Crime Family Captain Sammy “The Bull” Gravano hit the NY State Lottery for $2 million, & Whitey Bulger, of the Winter Hill Gang, won $8 million in the Mass. State Lottery? Locally, a mobster in the Patriarcha crime family, a few weeks after doing a 5 year stint in state prison, hit the Ct state lottery for $2 million. Maybe it’s just sh#t luck, I don’t know.
It’s fixed, like McDonald’s Monopoly.
Psy op. Getting us ready for election delays.
Q: Post the number when it come thru, why don’t you.
I thought Powerball was some sort of laundy liquid.
Q, what did you learn with Stop the Steal? I’m afraid very little. Once you hear there is some kinda delay that is it. It is time to carpet bomb them with lawyers, investigators and numbers. And if you can’t do that. Well then you won’t win the lottery. That is the very steep price you pay to live in a cheap banana republic!
Conditioning you to accept technical difficulties in the upcoming election.
Just as when the primed the herd here in Europe with “toilet paper shortages” right before “Covid” came along and we had “mask shortages.”
Gotta get the herd primed to react with fear, and seed “plausible” explanations in advance.
“The lottery in Babylon” by Jorge Luis Borges comes to mind:
The story describes a mythical Babylon in which all activities are dictated by an all-encompassing lottery, a metaphor for the role of chance in one’s life. Initially, the lottery was run as a lottery would be, with tickets purchased and the winner receiving a monetary reward. Later, punishments and larger monetary rewards were introduced. Further, participation became mandatory for all but the elite. Finally, it simultaneously became so all-encompassing and so secret some whispered “the Company has never existed, and never will,” and some even posited that the question of the existence of the Company was irrelevant, as Babylon “is nothing but an infinite game of chance.”
Rulo,
Shirley Jackson’s classic short story, “The Lottery”, is particularly relevant to what may happen in the future. A bit low-tech, I admit, but maybe TPTB won’t have the energy resources to snuff us out quickly via AI by then.
Soul,
I just pulled the story and will read it. Thanks.
“TPTB won’t have the energy resources to snuff us out” is also my hope.
I always pictured death by stoning as being a person chased by a rock bearing mob because of that story.
But then I watched a Pakistani woman being stoned to death on YouTube. I couldn’t watch it long because it freaked me out, but they put her in a hole and then piled rocks on her.
It was very low tech, for sure, but the juxtaposition of the low tech brutality and the mob all wielding smart phones to record it was incredibly jarring.
Dig hole. Stitch person to be stoned into a blanket where their head is showing. Hands and feet tied together and bury them up to their shoulders. Pile stones around so everyone can have a go at them. Brutal, bloody and painful.
benr,
That’s basically what happened to a character in Jerzy Kosinski’s classic novel The Painted Bird.
That was after the crows pecked his eyes out.
Didn’t George Carlin also say, “Why can’t we just all get along?”
I wouldn’t bother myself w/ powerball. Money corrupts and big money corrupts absolutely. Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars and unto God the things that are Gods.
G’nite, y’all. Yea…no more political ads!
Gosh tom, sometimes you are so friggin profound it is like off the charts. Aren’t there just some people you don-t want to get along with? Like, I don’t have to like you lol. That’ll throw em off. Ugghh, I know i’m so weary of this election season too! But times get tough when you’re contending with satanic entities. Nitey nite and don’t let the beddy bugs bite
So, I guess you believe in tithing?
Oh, dear God, let me be corrupted by the Powerball Lottery this week! LOL!
In all seriousness, I personally believe that I would do one hell of a lot more “good” with that jackpot than the average Joe or Jane with their tie dyed hair, sleeves of tattoos, endless body piercings, and various drug addictions.
I’d certainly like to test that theory, anyway….
@WOTS
I would like to throw my hat in the ring.
I have made endless plans on how I would help the people around me and in my life all it takes is effort and MONEY.
The problem with “rendering unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s” is that nothing much is rightfully Caesar’s. It was all stolen.
“UK – The Climate crisis means “girlfriends & mothers will be raped on your kitchen table & your eyes will be poked out with sticks”
These are the words of Rodger Hallam, leader of Extinction Rebellion & Just Stop Oil.
Cult extremism to radicalise you!”
https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1589877207773552640?cxt=HHwWgICp3bO5sJAsAAAA
It’s for Gaia. She is reaching her “carrying capacity” and running out of “fossil fuels.”
This is what we must accept, comrades.
As if carrying capacity and fossil supply limits had any direct connection to climate change or even each other. Just conflate all these issues like a slob. Laziness, lazy thinking, that’s what the world needs more of.
gustafson, today’s WSJ: “Tension is building in Maine over efforts to save a shrinking whale species that scientists say is threatened by the ropes lobstermen use to haul traps from the ocean floor.
The complex battle involves a federal agency that has a mandate to protect endangered North Atlantic right whales, a lobster industry that disagrees its fishing gear poses a risk, and environmental groups that say the federal government’s whale-protection efforts have fallen short.”
This, a thousand times, for every resource, every day, increasing.
It seems like an obvious prediction: “growth” dictates that, one by one, all protections will fold. The sarcasm of NO, an otherwise sage observer of today’s reality, betrays a deep seated assumption that there’s plenty of everything, really, the planet is fine, if only they’d let economic forces free to extract to full capacity. I believe he’s wrong.
One way we’re being set up for Gaia suffering harsher punishments in the years ahead is by associating “treehuggers” and energy scarcity, inflation, recession.
Thus, as a right-wing reaction replaces the climate cult with a growth cult, anyone defending Nature is ostracized.
In any case, both “left” and “right” understand that they need to keep the hellish rhythms of extraction to please their bases. The Amazon burned with both Lula and Bolsonaro.
The rest is kabuki theater. Drag queen hours and such. The real news is how fast we’re running out of planet.
Rulo,
You have a finger on the pulse of Brazil far more than me. What do you think of the recent election there? Is Lula an actual criminal, or was he set up somehow (when he did time in the slammer)?
Of course, both of their biggest crimes is destroying the Earth’s biggest rainforest. Evil pricks, the both of them. Long history of political corruption. Interesting to read about the airport riots in Sao Paulo.
Soul,
Brasil, as they spell it, is not that easy to decipher for an Argie. Very different countries in many ways. And I haven’t traveled there much, unlike say Mexico or Chile.
Lula certainly is a criminal. In the sense that most politicians are in Latin America – or worldwide, I’m now starting to think. Proven corruption, free on a technicality.
Here’s my angle: both him and the supposedly political antipodes, Bolsonaro, are for Brasil’s “growth” – both (rightly) believe what Brasil does or doesn’t do w the Amazon is their own business. That to put the Amazon above millions (B is a big country) of very poor people and their chances at a “better life” is criminal. Every country has their own Amazons. Some in the developed world are now rich enough to be very protective of their “terroir” and environment, natural beauties, pristine resources, or as pristine as they emerged from long habitation and reshaping the landscape. So they embrace the virtue signaling á la carbon credits and “non GMO not animal tested organic sustainable” arugula salads, keep Europe beautiful and outsource the damage to countries like B (cheap leather for bmws comes from a burnt and slashed Amazon, as the bulk or GMO soybeans for animal feeds worldwide, IKEA stuff from Indonesia, etc)
In a word – the rich will keep consuming. The poor will want to be rich. The planet is finite, not infinite. Growth cannot prevail without destruction.
Glenn Greenwald, who lives there, hates Bolsonaro. However, he said that Bolsonaro might be the lesser of the two evils. This was over a year ago, though. I should go see what he’s saying about this election.
Have you found hard evidence for your claim that earth’s carrying capacity has nearly been reached?
No?
LOL.
Carrying capacity of what, NO?
Do you really think that only humans have a right to live on this planet?
No whales, no dolphins, no tigers, no forests, no plankton….nothing but wall-to-wall humans.
Good straw man. A common tactic here.
You call the ongoing mass extinction event a ”straw man”?
That is not the definition of a straw man.
The straw man is the following statement:
Do you really think that only humans have a right to live on this planet?
If you knew the definition, you would not have asked the question in your most recent post.
Rather embarassing.
NO, lol?
I have no doubt that the Earth can carry the 8-billion, if most revert to subsistence agriculture and home based industries with technologies no more advanced than those of the early 1800’s.
The lives of India’s peasants, minus plastics, cellphones, mopeds.
The carrying capacity for our current lifestyles has definitely been reached. This explains much of what we see now, from the covid psyops to Ukraine.
Why lol?
I disagree, as do many others.
You must provide hard evidence for such broad-based and (IMO) rather outrageous claims.
I agree, Rulo.
It’s all nice that every person on the planet can fit shoulder to shoulder in Texas. But 1 person uses up a shitload of resources, we don’t stand shoulder to shoulder and not move.
So that’s one ridiculous argument on behalf of people who claim we are not overpopulated.
More likely those horrors will happen to the people predicting them. Deviant trash tend to hang with other deviant trash and ultimately end up being victimized by their own kind.
Normal people read about their misfortunes in the news feeds on our iPads the next day because we AVOID those types of people and situations.
Being normal, I worry not one little bit about such prognostications by these characters.
Night is approaching another kind of mysticism, where the Earth is alive and oil is her blood. Nothing “fossil” (his quotation marks) about it! And just as your body can produce more oil, so can hers.
When “conspiracy theory” becomes just the tails-side of the “mainstream narrative” coin. Same lazy shortsightedly-self-serving servitude driving the attraction to an idea. Not thought. Not bravery. Not originality. Not accuracy. A lazy slob files into Lane B instead of Lane A, both of which lead to the same place, to passivity, service to masters, abdication of and negation of self, to death. But the conspiracy theorist has a special, precious pride, because after all, he’s in Lane B, the road less traveled… NOT A.
Style without substance.
All you have to do is present hard evidence for your claim.
As always, I remain open to cogent arguments based on fact.
1.3 acres of arable land per human alive today wasn’t cogent enough for you. 96% of Earth’s biomass being either human (36%) or human domesticates (60%), leaving 4% wild wasn’t cogent enough for you. The subject of depleted fisheries left you silent. The simple logic of finite oil (and it’s calling highly leveraged contemporary agriculture’s longevity into question) is questionable to you. So, I’m working on getting God to carve you some stone tablets, to save you the trouble of any actual mental labor, but he keeps saying it’s not really worth lifting the divine finger since the intended recipient already “struts around actin like he know already; what he need my answer for?” Which made me laugh.
Numbers and computer models are fallible and do not convince anyone with more than a few brain cells to rub together.
Provide an argument that is not based on theory and guesswork.
Don’t be a slob now.
It’s actually not that hard to know which published numbers are bs and which have legitimacy. Covid infection and death numbers are cooked to shit for instance. The surface area of various terrains on the Earth, and the general human population estimate are pretty reliable numbers though. See how it goes? I’m pretty confident you can do this .
No. If I need food, I don’t need to live in the Shire. We have technology for that. Even outdated farming tech. provides food for populations that far exceed what could fit in a particular land mass — as the Dutch have shown.
In terms of actual land mass, we are nowhere near carrying capacity.
Anything else?
“Numbers and computer models are fallible” – always? You want hard evidence without numbers?
Bad faith on display by Night Foul.
Jarek going ad hom now.
I am over the target.
Open bomb-bay doors.
Night going anti-ad hom (I admit it!) to avoid dealing with criticism.
Bomb bay doors opening? Dude you’ve been shot down so you don’t want to do that.
Just post the evidence, Jarek.
Have you ever got the urge to look at something odd on the internet and come to conclusion after doing it?
My log in web page has a picture of places all over the world and todays was some scene from Norway so I got the idea to look at a few webcams.
webcamsinnorway.com
I noticed several things the country looks rather dreary and yet they have wonderful looking roads unlike just about anywhere in San Diego County.
The roads are so bad here I have seen people blowing tires in the potholes.
I know I can hear you now why not drive around them you say?
There are some areas like Balboa Blvd between ca163 heading West to I-5 that there is no way to avoid some of them as the entire road is crumbling into dust.
Hundreds of webcams to click on.
I’m considering a trip there just to see the sights up close.
Should have said the weather not the country.
Another day another random thought.
Was waiting for hot water to show up to wash out my old coffee mug and filled several pots full of cold to luke warm water to use on my house plants and wondered just how much water goes down the drain waiting for the water to be hot enough to use.
Then I started thinking about our water heater the kind that heats an entire tank of water all the time for use and thought what a waste of two resources.
If the environmental whackos had any common sense they would force everyone to go to instant heated tankless water heaters.
Hear that Gavin Newsom mandate tankless water heaters for all!
Think of the millions of gallons of water that would not just go down the sink for nothing and the millions of gallons of natural gas used to heat unused 99% of the time tank water heaters.
benr – I remember reading an article many years ago about water stress in southern Spain. Because of the importance of tourism, preference was being given to golf courses and hotels, while some farmers were seriously short of water.
Anyway, they mentioned that kids were being taught in school to do exactly what you did – to keep the cold water that came out before the hot water they were waiting for. I got a new combi-boiler recently, to replace an ancient conventional boiler (with tank). I lived in France in the 70s and tankless systems like that were pretty standard (Chaffoteaux et Maury springs to mind – they were everywhere),
Although I knew, even when the gas combi-boiler went in that they are planning to phase them out, to replace them with electric boilers that will cost and arm and a leg to run.
Proving no idea is really new.
Right now, natural gas is still cheap and plentiful electricity is becoming a real problem.
I keep hearing Joe reverse course on oil drilling and “renewables”.
Is he being a politician or forgetting what he said?
Even with tankless you’ll dump water waiting for the hat water to come to your tap. Or you could put in a small point of use electric heater under your kitchen sink. A friend builds McMansions. Often in a large one he’ll put in to tank jobs. One at each end of the house or put in a circulator so the hot water is right by the tap at all times. Real energy hogs.
My shower bathtub combo can take three to four minutes before the water is hot.
Kitchen sink one to three minutes neither is more than forty feet from the water heater.
It defies reality how long it takes to clear out the pipes and get the hot water flowing.
My CH/water boiler is next to the kitchen sink, so much better than when we had the tank, which is still there, although disconnected, because it’s in the weirdest place, behind the kitchen wall on the other side of the kitchen, so can’t be removed without breaking the wall (just plasterboard at that point but still). The new boiler is only a few feet from the bathroom shower as well, since we’re all on one level, so it only takes seconds now for hot water to reach the shower.
Ben, most things you come up against tend to ‘defy reality’…
How do you like your combi boiler, GA? I’ve got one in my new place and it’s great for one person, highly economical. The only thing I dislike is that it’s not practical to give one’s hands a quick swill in warm water, what with all the faff of the boiler firing and time taken for the hot water to reach the tap, I just run it cold.
I’m finding it fine, Slugoon. I did it because we were doing a bathroom refurb (tenement bathroom, the size of an elongated postage stamp, so converted it to a shower room). We had an electric shower above the bath that was dire, so now we have a lovely shower working from the combi. My only reservation is that (a) an electric shower is handy if the gas boiler isn’t working for some reason and (b) it’s handy having an immersion heater for the same reason – you’ve got electric back-up for hot water. Now we’re 100% dependent on the boiler. It’s got a 10-year guarantee so it will see me out, as long as normal money is stlil here and heating technicians likewise.
It’s almost impossible to compare costs, though, since gas prices went up not long after we got the boiler and I pay monthly anyway.
That’s funny, I’ve been thinking the same thing recently, because it takes a few minutes for the water in my bath and in my sinks to get the hot water. I live in one level. I priced out a tankless water heater and the cost was $1,700 dollars! I just ordered a new mouthguard because I grind my teeth at night. I was charged $1,650. It’s getting very expensive to live. I don’t know how the average person does it. I guess that’s a major reason why it seems many people have become angry over the past few years, have maxed out credit cards and have almost no savings.
@ beantownbill:
Tooth grinding is likely an indication of magnesium deficiency. It’s a common symptom. Other common symptoms are foot and leg cramps, especially at night. (That one is probably the most common.) Another symptom is having your back “go out,” which is extremely painful–but it’s just a muscle cramp.
Basically, calcium and magnesium must be balanced. If you have to much calcium relative to magnesium, you will get muscle cramps (and tooth grinding). There is a kind of “switch” at the cellular level that tells the muscles when to contract and when to relax. Calcium tells muscles to contract; magnesium tells them to relax. If you don’t have enough magnesium, muscles CAN’T relax, which causes them to cramp.
The reason I am going into this is because you may have other symptoms.
Anyway, your tooth grinding can probably be relieved by an inexpensive bottle of magnesium supplement pills from Walmart. The bottle I keep on hand is 250 mg. I take two tablets if I notice muscle cramps. For tooth grinding, I think I’d take two tablets a day for couple of days and then go to one tablet a day. Once the tooth grinding stops, you could just take magnesium intermittently. Or you could keep taking it every day. It’s harmless.
If you are worried about taking too much, the intication of too much magnesium is loose stools.
Forgot to mention: DO NOT buy a combination calcium/magnesium supplement. You have too much calcium relative to magnesium, so the last thing you want to do is take more calcium.
I have a tankless water heater and it takes a while for the warm water to get through the pipes.
I’m from California so I am also in the habit of collecting the cold water for watering the plants.
My sister has some sort of device that makes the water instantly hot, but you have to remember to turn it on before you take a shower.
She doesn’t leave it on all the time because it wastes energy.
Neighbors just got a tankless installed and I’m waiting on my estimate to finalize. An idea whose time has come.
An electric water heater uses more electricity than anything else in your house, except maybe for the AC in the summertime. I once didn’t have a working water heater for a few months. It cut my electric bill in half.
Some people suggest saving on electricity by turning off the water heater until you plan to use hot water. In most households it could be turned off all day and only turned on in the evening for showers and washing dishes. (I now have a tankless water heater, but at my former house, it only took the water heater about 20 minutes to heat a full tank of water.)
The main trouble with that idea is that breakers are not intended to be turned off and on frequently, so the breaker would fail before long. You’d have to wire in a switch.
Electric hot water is easy to put on a timer. They also have setback thermostats for gas hot water. Similar to a set back thermostat for your boiler/furnace. The problem with tankless is no electricity= no hot water. Also very complex and moving parts= expensive to repair if repairable at all. I installed a couple in two rentals. One froze in the winter and split the coil. The heaters heater did not come on. Yes the gas heater has an electric heater inside. Sub zero air will backflow into the unit from outside if you have a chimney pulling air out of your basement and the unit is vented through the foundation. The other fried a circuit board and a new board was more than I paid for the unit.Try to get a new circuit board these days. You know chip shortage and all. I went back to tanks. Super simple, no electricity needed, way cheaper to repair/replace and marginally more expensive to run but not by much.
My tankless is old and has no electricity or circuit board. It runs on gas.
When our electricity went out in 2009 for 3 days I still had hot water.
And I still had a phone. Sometimes the old ways work out better than this new high tech dependent world.
Which makes me wonder how they plan on keeping us all surveilled and corralled with their high tech.
I see a flaw in their plans.
Elmos fire, there’s camping models in the $150 range that light the propane with a battery powered spark.
That’s what I use for my hot shower. I may add one for washing dishes with hot water in the kitchen.
But you’re right, without water pressure in the pipes, they won’t work.
The tankless water heater in this house has never given any trouble at all in ten years, except for one repair a few years ago.
If the environmental whackos had any common sense, or used their immense power effectively, we wouldn’t have disposable plastic everywhere, we wouldn’t be using plastic bags at the stores, we wouldn’t have ‘planned obsolescence,’ RoundUp would be illegal… just for starters.
Plastics are probably more damaging to human and animal health than just about any other mild contaminant. The buildup of microplastics in the lungs and other organs is no joke.
MQ, indeed. But it will go on. Unless humanity walks away from profit and convenience. On the other side of the Wastelands there may be such an awakening. But not on this side. We’ll go through the wringer.
Totally agree, which makes me very sad.
Same here
Here in Germany “Untertischgeräte” and wall-mounted electric point heaters are quite common.
The modern ones are pretty good and only turn on when the hot water tap is opened. Hot water flows in about 5-10 seconds depending on the length of the line and power of the unit.
It is now Tuesday, NOVEMBER 8th.
LONG have I waited for this day.
I am heading to the polls to do my duty as a citizen.
My guiding principle is this:
VICTORY OVER COMMUNISM
Good luck with all that.
Here is to hope all the hype of defeated Democrats comes true.
My real issue with all of this has been Republicans gain control and do NOTHING, ZERO AND NADA.
I hear through the grapevine old Joe has a zillion executive orders all lined up waiting to be signed.
Defeatism and black pilling never won the day on any battlefield. We have no other choice but to persist in the fight. The alternative is slavery to these vermin.
So agree. But I will say that Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy need to go. I think this is what Ben is getting to. There are minority elements within the Republicans who have a lot of power and clout who work to stifle the larger movement on behalf of the current power structure.
Are you voting in China?
Bizarro world. Harry Belafonte inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame. Yea, Ol’ Harry was quite the Rock and Roll animal back in the day.
…Bring the belt, you’re much to impudent….
…Too
This is rich Joe Biden the biggest mooch and grifter in American politics is calling others a mooch.
Joe Biden’s bizarre closing argument: ‘Shut up, moocher’
On the eve of the midterm elections, in which voters will hand President Biden his report card, the White House has settled on a message: Shut up and take whatever we give you.
It’s perverse on a few levels.
First is the fascistic tone of the president telling his political opponents what sort of dissent they “get to” make against his policies. If Trump had spoken that way, the news media (including me) would call it un-American.
Second, the pandemic loans were not typical government aid. They were essentially restitution for the government shutting down the economy.
Third, when a political party uses its power to expand government aid to all corners of the population, into every industry, and for all sorts of reasons, this argument is particularly evil. Get everyone on the dole, and then you’ve bought everyone’s right to criticize any of your policies! This is literally an effort to force the population into servility.
While galling and stupid, this isn’t a new attack from the Biden White House. In the summer, Biden’s social media team spent the day attacking every critic of his illegal giveaway who had taken pandemic relief money.
It’s clear then, that Biden’s “you don’t get to…” tweet on Election Eve is part of a deliberate political strategy. That requires some of our attention.
What sort of politician or operative thinks that this is a good place to plant his party’s flag?
What does it convey? Disdain. Condescension. Intolerance of disagreement. And that’s what Biden showed in his infamous Red Light Speech that kicked off the fall election season. He considers his opponents illegitimate, dangerous, and worthy of scorn. (Biden claimed he was calling only some of his opponents evil, but that was transparently false, evidenced by his inclusion of all pro-lifers in the category of extremist/MAGA Republicans.)
Disdain has also been central to the gubernatorial campaign of Democrat Charlie Crist.
Kathy Hochul in New York told her Republican opponent Lee Zeldin that he and those who agree with him should “just jump on a bus and head down to Florida where you belong, OK? Get out of town. Because you do not represent our values. You are not New Yorkers.” So calling people who take government aid “moochers” is a consistent theme from some corners of the Democratic Party.
Why would disdain, mockery, and intolerance be considered a good political message? Presumably it will have some benefit in motivating a progressive base that is only half-satisfied with Biden’s first two years. Perhaps it is simply venting from a frustrated party losing its grip on power.
After the election, some Democrats will likely explore the wisdom of this strategy. But for the next 24 hours, we get to see how well the Democrats can perform on the platform of disdain for their
Benr what a crock of shit you just wrote. Your beloved Trump is the biggest divider, anybody that disagrees or doesn’t like him is the enemy, unbelievable. Right wingers always argue that people don’t like Trump because he tweets mean things….yet when they think Biden is doing that, they become a bunch of snowflakes. You’re dumber than I originally thought. And I’m not a fan of Biden either, but you are being a hypocrite.
Well spotted, KDog.
Wee ben, please attribute your cut & paste contributions. No way you wrote that diatribe of diarrhea…
A bird is not the same thing as a dog.
buwahahaha
The fake local at point Dume graces us with his lackluster whit.
Hey, have you managed to get a real board or are you still playing with your wavestorm?
Biden has been a racist douche for forty years.
Oh Benr…wooh that was a doozy, that’s all you got? Cause you can’t defend your hypocrisy you’re going to try, and let me repeat, TRY to offend me with your Wavestorm comments…Try Better little Ben..
Offend you?
Just pointing out fact.
You once said something nasty to me about localism and then pretended to be one at point dume which is hardly a bastion of nasty localism or even a wave 330 days a year.
Everything you said after that I know to be a fabrication.
Speaking about hypocrisy that one takes the cake from a DNC supporter.
Trump is a pauper compared to Bidens lifetime of grifting and being nasty to people.
As far as your comment about not liking Biden you don’t fool anyone.
You are all in on Democrat games, name calling and assorted nastiness and are probably carghouls seventieth sock.
Democrats after all wrote the book on nasty political and then they all studied it.
Oh Ben, I know this was a tough morning for you all, being you all expected a Red Wave. But cheer up, you’ve probably won the house, and who knows, maybe even the Senate…And we all know you’re the bully, and bullies are insecure at heart, so whatever “Nasty” thing I said to you at some point, really got to you and you can’t let it go. I don’t give a shit what you think of Point Dume, as long as it keeps creeps like you out of here. I couldn’t stop laughing at your comment about Biden and who I like, lol, I never come on here and defend him, not once. He’s too damn old, as are many of our leaders. There really should be an age limit, it’s embarrassing. The difference with me and the majority of the Extremists on this site is I don’t see the other side as the enemy, YOU do. Anyone who is not a Far right, you see as the enemy. I can disagree with my own party, I can agree with Republicans on certain things, I even thought your tankless water heater idea was a good one. But someone like you, you would rather cut off your right arm then agree with anyone who isn’t of your same party. You tried again to offend me, and once again it didn’t work. Cheer up lil Ben.
It never amazes me to see how depraved some of these individuals are.
That old saying “How does he/she sleep at night” has never been more apt.
How does one become such an utter ghoul?
Well said, benr. You clearly see right through their agenda. It is appalling. I can’t believe people fall for it. What the hell is wrong with our society?
Biden – our mentally deficient Robespierre. Instigator of tyrannical terror in our society.
Well….history tells us what became of old Robespierre when the people got enough of his bullshit.
More bad news it would seem about the covid jabs.
Endocrinologist Forecasts More Hormone-Related Diseases as Spike Proteins Found to Deplete Endocrine ‘Reserves’
Dr. Flavio Cadegiani, a Brazilian endocrinologist, suspects that the worst has yet to come for spike protein-induced diseases in the endocrine system.
The endocrine system, colloquially known as the hormone system, is critical for our health. It regulates growth and development, mood, metabolism, reproduction, immunity, and functions of other organs through the secretion of hormones.
Hormones are one of the three biggest messengers in the body. Compared to the two other messengers—neurotransmitters and cytokines—hormones are slower in responding, and have systemic functions across the body rather than localized actions.
While cells can usually respond to neurotransmitters in milliseconds and cytokines in minutes to hours, cells that respond to hormones can take hours or even weeks.
Since hormones can have slow and systemic actions, a dysfunctional or damaged endocrine system will generally be slow in its symptom onset and recovery.
Studies have shown that spike proteins from COVID-19 infection and the vaccines can damage endocrine glands, including pituitary, thyroid, and adrenal glands, as well as reproductive organs, and many more.
Cadegiani raised a concern that the slower onset of endocrine pathologies may pose difficulties in diagnosis and treatment.
Depletion of Hormonal Reserves
Endocrine pathologies can take longer to become apparent because endocrine glands have “reserves,” according to Cadegiani.
“What we’re going to see in the future [for endocrine diseases] is a little bit different from the other fields, because glands have reserves and the decrease of the reserve will not be clinically seen right now, but it may be in the future,” said Cadegiani at a Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) conference in Kissimmee, Florida.
Therefore, affected individuals may show no symptoms until their reserves have been depleted.
Cadegiani said that most of his concerns for the future are speculative and based his own clinical observations. But since the pandemic and the administration of COVID-19 vaccines began, there have been increasing reports that implicate endocrine pathologies.
Hormonal Axis and Systemic Dysfunction
Hormones regulate the entire body, so once the reserved are depleted and underlying endocrine pathologies are unmasked, there may be cases of systemic dysregulations.
Endocrine glands control the function of many organs across the body, and each endocrine organ is also connected through a feedback loop, also known as a hormonal axis.
At the top of this chain is the hypothalamus, which is a diamond structure in the brain and acts as a master switchboard. It sends messages to the pituitary glands, a small, oval structure tucked behind the nose.
The pituitary gland is colloquially known as the master gland; it regulates other endocrine organs, together with the hypothalamus forming hormonal axes.
The pituitary gland is part of the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPG) axis which regulates the reproductive organs including the ovaries and the testes. In females, it is responsible for regulating the release of ovarian hormones as part of the menstrual cycle, and in males the axis regulates spermatogenesis.
The hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis is a neuroendocrine axis that mediates the adrenal glands, an organ that produce hormones that trigger the fight or flight response. The fight or flight process is a stress response that occurs in response to harmful threats, and can reduce metabolism, suppress immune, as well as activate the sympathetic nervous system.
Another major axis is the hypothalamic-pituitary-thyroid (HPT) axis. This regulates the thyroids and the hormones it secretes. Thyroid hormones are essential for biological functions of growth, regulation of the cardiovascular system, bone replacement, liver function, and metabolism.
How Spike Proteins Target the Endocrine System
The spike protein is the most toxic part of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Studies on people with long COVID and post-vaccine symptoms often detected spike protein presence months or even a year after the exposure.
Spike protein particularly favors tissues and organs that express ACE2 and CD147 receptors. Many endocrine glands display ACE2 receptors, including the pancreas, thyroid, testes, ovaries, adrenal glands, and the pituitary gland, making the endocrine system particularly vulnerable to SARS-CoV-2.
The key driver behind spike protein-induced disease is inflammation.
Upon entering cells, spike protein can activate pro-inflammatory pathways by inducing DNA damage, inhibiting DNA repair, causing stress to the cell’s mitochondria, which is critical for cell energy production, and many more. All of this lead to cellular stress, injury, and possible cell death.
When many cells are affected, it can cause problems in tissues and organs, affecting individual endocrine glands and the system.
Spike proteins also inhibit autophagy, the cellular “recycling system,” thereby preventing the cells from clearing the toxic protein out, leading to prolonged damage.
Spike proteins may also contribute to autoimmunity. Since it shares many similarities with common human tissues and proteins—known as “molecular mimicry”—it has the potential to cause immune cells to mount an attack against its own cells and organs, leading to endocrine damage.
Several studies have reported on endocrine pathologies following COVID-19, though data on the exact damage is still emerging.
Pituitary Glands
As the master gland of the endocrine system, the pituitary gland secretes many hormones, including ones that regulate other endocrine glands:
Adrenocorticotrophic hormone (ACTH) targets the adrenal glands and is responsible for producing cortisol, which stimulates the stress response
Thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) regulates the thyroid
Growth hormone (GH) is responsible for growth and metabolism
Melanocyte-stimulating hormone (MSH) boosts the production of melanin when exposed to UV rays and increases appetite
Anti-diuretic hormone (ADH) is responsible for retaining water and producing less urine
Luteinizing hormone (LH) follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), prolactin (PRL) are important for reproduction
Oxytocin plays a role in childbirth, metabolism, and happiness
Studies in cell culture have shown that the spike protein is able to suppress the production of LH and FSH in pituitary cells, with unknown long term consequences in humans.
ACTH deficiencies have been observed following mRNA vaccination in Japan, with the person affected found to have a shrunken pituitary gland.
Cadegiani said that pathologies in the pituitary are difficult to diagnose; they are often masked by other conditions, therefore there is little literature on pituitary pathology presentation after COVID-19 vaccinations.
Adrenal Glands
There is published literature with data that may be used as evidence to suggest spike protein injury at the adrenal glands.
The adrenal glands, located above the kidneys, produce hormones responsible for the stress response. This includes adrenaline, cortisol, and aldosterone. The release of these three hormones are critical for maintaining energy and other needs during stressful situations.
Studies on COVID-19 have shown that the adrenal glands are major sites of SARS-CoV-2 mRNA accumulation and spike protein production.
The glands are also likely to be involved in post-vaccine myocarditis events that are often seen in young males. Cadegiani reasons that this type of myocarditis may be a sign of adrenal dysfunction.
Cadegiani authored a peer-reviewed study on post-vaccine myocarditis and concluded catecholamines are a main trigger for these events. Catecholamines are a group of neurohormones and includes dopamine, noradrenaline, and adrenaline.
While dopamine mostly acts within the nervous system, both adrenaline and noradrenaline play important roles in stress responses.
Adrenaline activates the fight or flight stress response and the noradrenaline supports the response by increasing heart rate, breaking down fats, and increasing blood sugar levels.
Intense and prolonged exercise trigger the fight or flight response, which is why catecholamines are usually elevated in athletes. Males in particular tend to have higher levels of catecholamine. Testosterone is also suspected to play a role in the higher incidence of myocarditis following vaccination.
Stress responses increase blood pressure, stronger heart contraction, and when chronic, can increase the risk of cardiac events.
Cadegiani linked catecholamines with myocarditis by analyzing autopsy reports in two teenage boys who died three to four days after mRNA vaccination from myocarditis events. Their heart damage was different from normal myocarditis pathology, with clear similarities with stress-induced cardiomyopathy; Cadegiani observed clear characteristics of catecholamine-induced myocarditis.
He hypothesized that vaccines triggered a hyper-catecholaminergic state by elevating levels of adrenaline, causing hyperactivation of adrenaline.
Studies on mRNA vaccinated athletes also found that after exercise, those who were vaccinated had higher heart rates and noradrenaline levels than those who were not vaccinated.
Dysfunctions in the adrenal glands are likely to lead to adrenal insufficiency.
Cadegiani hypothesized adrenal insufficiency–a condition that the adrenal glands become unable to produce enough hormones–to be a possible consequence of spike protein injury.
There is already a report of adrenal insufficiency following infection; in the case of long COVID where there are spike protein remnants, it is likely that the damage will be prolonged, possibly leading to chronic damage.
In the case of vaccines, a report evaluating spike protein production after COVID-19 mRNA vaccination found that the adrenal glands were one of the highest spike protein-producing tissues, and the spike protein production in these glands increased with time.
Current research has also shown that complications from thrombocytopenia as a post-vaccine symptom have led to adrenal hemorrhage and adrenal insufficiency.
Thyroid
The thyroid is a butterfly-shaped gland located over the throat. It has a lot of functions, primarily regulating growth and metabolism.
It makes two hormones, thyroxine and triiodothyronine. Deficiencies in triiodothyronine results in hypothyroidism, characterized by a large thyroid; over secretion of it can cause hyperthyroidism.
The thyroid also plays roles in regulating the immune system. COVID-19 infection is often a sign of underlying thyroid problems, and damage from infection can exacerbate thyroid problems, creating a negative cycle.
An autopsy study on 15 people deceased from COVID-19 found that 13 of them had viral RNA and proteins in their thyroid tissues. ACE2 receptors, previously thought to be not presented on the thyroid, were also detected, indicating a possible route for SARS-CoV-2 infection.
Though the research shows that thyroids can be implicated in infection, thyroiditis, which is inflammation of the thyroids, have currently only been reported in relation with the COVID-19 vaccine.
A study from Turkey stated that the COVID-19 vaccine can induce thyroiditis. The study evaluated 15 patients who developed thyroiditis following vaccination.
Four of the patients also developed Grave’s disease, which is an autoimmune disease and a complication of hyperthyroidism. Hashimoto’s disease, another thyroid autoimmune condition, has also been reported following vaccinations.
It is possible that spike proteins produced from vaccinations may attack the thyroid cells by binding to ACE2 receptors. However, looking at the high reports of autoimmune diseases, Cadegiani suspects that the pathogenesis of thyroid dysfunction is likely autoimmune. The spike protein has also demonstrated its autoimmune capacity due to high incidences of “molecular mimicry.”
Pancreas
The pancreas produces glucagon and insulin, two important hormones that regulate our blood sugar levels. Dysregulation of blood sugar levels are an indication of pancreatic dysfunction and may lead to complications such as diabetes.
Spike protein both from the vaccine and the virus have shown a potential to disturb glucose metabolism.
There have been reports of a sudden onset of type 1 diabetes, which is a form of autoimmune disease where the body attacks its own pancreatic beta cells.
A study evaluating EudraVigilance safety surveillance reports have also found reports of dysregulation of blood glucose with transient worsening of hyperglycemia reported after vaccinations.
Chronic hyperglycemia, meaning high blood sugar, is usually a sign of dysfunction in the pancreatic beta cells.
Therefore Cadegiani proposed that there could be a loss or malfunction of pancreatic beta cells as studies have shown that the spike protein is able to directly affect and damage these beta cells, likely resulting in their death.
Reproductive Organs
The harms of COVID-19 on male reproductive organs are well established.
A study from Thailand showed that in 153 sexually active men, around 64.7 percent experienced erectile dysfunction during COVID-19 infection, with 50 percent persisting in these symptoms three months after recovery.
Erectile dysfunction has been established in research to be due to dysfunctions of the endothelial cells, and the spike protein impairs endothelial cells.
Studies linking COVID-19 and erectile dysfunction have largely blamed it on the virus’s interaction with ACE2 receptors displayed on the surface of endothelial cells. Endothelial cells are abundant in ACE2 receptors, making it one of the most targeted in COVID-19 infections.
A study evaluating adenovirus DNA vaccines showed that cells exposed to the vaccines also produced spike proteins that could interact and bind with ACE2 receptors, suggestive of equal endothelial damage.
Since the vaccine rolled out in 2021, the CDC data reported 193 cases of erectile dysfunction following COVID-19 vaccination.
An Israeli study on sperm donations have also noticed a reduction by 15 percent in sperm concentration and 22 percent in motile sperm count following COVID-19 mRNA vaccination.
The authors confirmed in a later response (pdf) that the people tested had no underlying health conditions, and therefore the reduction could not be due to any underlying health conditions that were existent prior to the vaccination.
Though sperm count gradually made a recovery after 145 days, sperm concentration and motility did not return to pre-vaccination levels, with unknown long-term effects.
Concerns of reproductive problems have also been reported in women, most particularly after vaccinations rather than after infection.
Studies showed that men are generally at a higher risk of severe outcomes and deaths from COVID-19 infections; however, women seem to be at a higher risk of vaccine injury.
VAERS data showed that over 60 percent of adverse event reports came from women, indicating that women are more vulnerable to post-vaccine symptoms.
Dr. Paul Marik, critical care expert, also observed that women were at a greater risk of presenting with post-vaccines symptoms in the clinic.
During the pandemic, many women reported menstrual abnormalities following vaccination. A study on Middle Eastern women found almost 70 percent of them reporting menstrual irregularities after vaccination.
A study funded by the National Institute of Health found a “temporary increase in menstrual cycle length” linked to the COVID-19 vaccination.
A study published on the website titled My Cycle Story reported over 290 women who have experienced decidual cast shedding after the COVID vaccines rolled out, even though less than 40 such cases have been documented over the past 109 years. This also indicated that many of the reproductive symptoms women were suffering from may be vaccine related, rather than related to COVID infections.
Cadegiani predicted greater adverse events in pregnancies for the coming future.
He cited a study that concluded “no association” between COVID-19 vaccines and fertility. The data however showed that unvaccinated women had a higher rate of pregnancy than the vaccinated, both for clinical and biochemical pregnancy.
The authors of the paper reviewed 10 studies and found that unvaccinated women have a clinical and biochemical pregnancy rate of 47 and 60 percent respectively, while the COVID vaccinated had a rate of 45 and 51 percent.
Cadegiani predicts more cases of endocrinopathologies as a result of spike injuries in the future.
“Endocrine diseases progress slowly and then only clinically appears in the severe states,” said Cadegiani. “So it’s not possible to tell this [anytime] beforehand.” -Miriana Zhang epoch times
TLDR
Do you not have the acumen to do so?
You most certainly have the time well maybe not at 80 you could really go at any time.
It takes less than five minutes to read that material.
Q do you suffer from adhd?
Thanks ben. That is scary. Here is some more info taken from a facebook post, so the words are altered because of rampant censorship.
Excerpt from James A. Thorp, MD, Board-Certified Obstetrician Gynecologist and Maternal Fetal Medicine Physician with over 43 years of obstetrical experience, November 7, 2022:
“This IS the greatest medical disaster in the history of obstetrics and all of medicine. I testify that this unwarranted experimental g3ne therapy was NEVER indicated in pregnancy and was perpetrated unlawfully and with falsified data. …
“It was known by Schadlich et al as early as 2012 that the lipid nanoparticles (LNP) concentrate in the ovaries of mice and Wistar rats. The FOIA request of the Japanese Pf#z3r biodistribution studies absolutely confirmed: within 48 hours the ‘v@ckc#n3 was immediately absorbed into the blood stream and concentrated in the ovaries 118-fold by 48 hours and the trajectory of the concentration would have risen even higher had the animals not been sacrificed at 48 hours. This experimental therapy may have permanent damaging effects on the human genome for multiple generations and makes diethystilbestrol pale in comparison.
“A preborn baby by near term has only one million ova (gametes or germ cells) for her entire lifetime … Not only do the biodistribution studies document the disastrous concentration of the LNP in the ovaries adjacent to the precious and limited ova of our future generations, but these products also concentrate in the thymus gland in fetal life potentially rendering permanent harm to the ‘seed of the imm#n3 function for life.’ …
“As argued in 2020 it was NEVER necessary in pregnancy because there were ample data suggesting that alternate therapies were available, but these were suppressed, buried, and villanized by the medical industrial complex for the sole purpose of paving the way for a lucrative experimental gene therapy masqueraded as a v*ckc#n3. …
“Pf#z3r 5.3.6 post marketing research documented unparalleled deaths after the ‘v@ckc#n3 in 1,223 patients (page 7) in less than 90 days and by all other historical standards should have been immediately removed from the market in December 2020. Pf#z3r attempted to block this release for 75 years but failed.
“The Sw#n3 Fl# v@ckc#n3 was immediately removed from the market in 1976 for only 26 deaths and a few cases of Guillain Barre Syndrome. If the above Pf#z3r 5.3.6 data are not disturbing enough, go to page 12 where the pregnancy loss, miscarriage, fetal death and neonatal deaths are documented in pregnant women given the v@ckc#n3: of the 270 pregnant women given the v*, 124/270 had complications after administration (page 12). There is extensive documentation of potential fraud, collusion and RICO violations documented by numerous experts. There were 1,366 peer reviewed publications in just 15 months documenting severe complications and death after the v*. …
“The most accurate medical database in the world, the military DMED database showed disastrous effects of the ‘v@ckc#n3 in pregnancy as reviewed by Senator Ron Johns0n. …
“There are now two recently published articles documenting intact pseudo-uridinated mRN@ (pumRN@) from the ‘v@ckc#n3’ in human breast milk that has extraordinarily concerning implications, Jia Ming Low et al, and Alisa Kachikis et al.
Yes it was long, but I did read. Thanks.
Front page headline in the St. Paul Pioneer Press:
Plea for climate: ‘Cooperate or perish’
I feel for anyone who reads that and actually takes that condescending, fear-mongering trash to heart.
Fuck you, hedge fund-owner paper.
Sad thing is once the elections are over, this will again be the number one topic each day (minus electric cars being the only way forward…which is quickly becoming clear as a way to price out the majority of us from even owning a car, as the grid can barely handle what we’re already hitting it with.)
I voted against all incumbents today. Which in MN means voting against all crats and the unopposed. My little local city council has three seats up for re-election…all running unopposed. Sigh. A write-in for Deez Nuts probably won’t sway the results in this case.
Jim,
Just a note:
My son asked me, “Dad, what is a claque?”
I said, son, “It is half of that toy sold in the 70’s. It was called clik claque.There were many head injuries caused by attributed to the use of the toy by small children who now have live in “homes.”
And if you follow the Google double-click for claque, you get these words that my son is wondering about:
claque
sycophantic
obsequious
servile
Spelling and grammar–and patience! All things I don’t have time for.
You may not have time for them Howard, but you really need to make time for them. People are just in such a hurry nowadays it is super frustrating
You only made two real errors (if the lack of caps in the list is counted as one).
You are already light years ahead of Q, and most of the board.
Party on!
The Fast-Spreading New COVID-19 Subvariant XBB Is Part of a ‘New Class’ of Omicron
How many is that now, just sons of Omicron?
msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/the-fast-spreading-new-covid-19-subvariant-xbb-is-part-of-a-new-class-of-omicron/ar-AA133Y9C
TLDR: tranmissive as heck; get the mouse jab; won’t stop you getting it but you’re used to that now, right?
see above>
Endocrinologist Forecasts More Hormone-Related Diseases as Spike Proteins Found to Deplete Endocrine ‘Reserves’
Dr. Flavio Cadegiani, a Brazilian endocrinologist, suspects that the worst has yet to come for spike protein-induced diseases in the endocrine system.
I see people wearing masks. 3 years in.
Hmmm, I also translate TLDR as wow this is a whole lot of information on this jab thing. I’m simply not getting it because it’s so complicated. That and I figure the people pushing it are essentially ghouls anyway because I knew before covid that pharma used subliminal messaging in their ads
I think it’s safe to assume that no body system is unaffected by the clot shots, SSL. It’s almost easier to look for things it doesn’t do. Pfizer themselves listed 1291 ‘conditions of special interest’ that doctors should be looking out for and eliminating the vaxx from their enquiries before assuming any other cause.
Unfortunately they didn’t give the list to the doctors and it had to be dragged out of them by a federal judge, when the horse had already bolted.
I wonder what the Rednut would say about this?
Why would Pfizer not provide medical practitioners with such information of their own accord?
I’m actually amazed they drew up the list in the first place. The whole process is so anomalous.
Redneck is probably still busy figuring out an alternative explanation for what the Aussie GP, Dr Foster (?), photographed in the vial samples.
I was looking for the Aussie Spectator article again just now and came across this brilliant ‘fact check’ from AAP about an earlier claim from another Australian doctor (who was suspended for his pains); This is the level of their ‘fact checking’.
“AAP FactCheck contacted Pfizer about Dr Shelton’s claim and was referred to the data sheet published by Medsafe. There are no electronic components listed among the ingredients.”
aap.com.au/factcheck/vaccine-nanotech-claim-needs-a-check-up/
This is the level of crap that convinces Redneck.
(1) Some ‘experts’ said the claim is fanciful.
(2) Nanotech isn’t listed in the ingredients.
(3) Dr X made some anti-vaxx statements already so we should discount everything he says.
“Electronic components”
There is the deception. Playing with words as usual.
Omicronsson. Son of Omicron.
Science.
We might be about to get a break from the Omicron dynasty. They’re looking forward to Pi.
It’s ‘on every scientist’s lips’, don’tcha know.
msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/why-pi-is-the-next-covid-variant-on-every-scientist-s-lips/ar-AA13XKsK
Do you have a “Plan B” if you don’t win the lottery?
I got mine;
https://www.amren.com/news/2022/11/city-to-announce-guaranteed-income-to-squeegee-kids-if-they-stay-off-corners/
I don’t make plans, i just go with the flow
That our future overlords use environmental collapse as one of the justifications for their coming new order doesn’t negate the fact that the planet is, in fact, collapsing. Can’t heal and replenish itself fast enough, not by a long shot. Thus, the current reality is unsustainable.
I’m not thinking climate change. The climate changes. All life adapts or perishes. Always been the case.
If anyone has a theory about how, once conservative populists replace the current senile, deranged liberals in power, the US and the world will be able to provide their populations with living standards considered normal today, I’d like to hear it.
In particular, I’d like to know what’s the political plan, both sides, to manage the terminal crises and disappearance of
Fossil energy
Biodiversity (extinctions)
Fisheries
Good quality water
Rare minerals and ores
Topsoils
Forests
And what both political sides plan to do to address problems like
Plastic pollution, incl micro plastics that enter food chains
Bioengineered foods with even less testing than the c19 vaxxes increasingly approved for human consumption
What to do with the million-year afterlife of nuclear waste
What to do with massive glyphosate, pesticide and chemical fertilizer impacts on human, and planet’s, health.
How to feed 8 billion and counting without relying on those inputs, plus deforestation, slash and burn, poaching, and everything else to put food on so many tables.
Both lists are much longer, but you get the point. I’m open to criticism, but please, not about the propaganda vehicle “AGW” – that’s not even in my top 20 priorities.
We have Brahms, but seen from space in time lapse camera spanning a few millenia, we’re no different than cancer.
You are right. There is no way to continue our current overconsumption so it will stop, and all the foot stomping and breath holding demands for it to continue will not produce more oil, topsoil or water.
The last 80 years were an incredible assault on the ecosystem that sustains all life on the planet, and it really ramped up after 1980.
Taking chemical weapons designed to kill people and using them after the war on food in order to destroy insects seemed like a good idea at the time, I guess, but it hasn’t really worked out well, although it ballooned the human population to obscene levels.
Using fossil fuels to raze forests, vacuum oceans and strip mine topsoil was also a bad idea.
I don’t think it can be fixed, but even if it could, there is no will to do so.
“Using fossil fuels to raze forests, vacuum oceans and strip mine topsoil was also a bad idea.”
But a good idea at the time don’t forget.
‘There is no will to do so.’. That is an understatement.
There is a strong will to continue business as usual despite Climate Destruction now being common knowledge.
Fluffy ignorance has morphed into premeditated murder as CO2 is pumped into the atmosphere faster than ever.
With grandpa Joe blowing up Nordstream watching Germany this winter will give a taste of our own fate.
I have lots of firewood here in Germany. As I burn copious amounts this December and Jan., I will pump silly amounts of CO2 into the air, pushing my carbon footprint into the stratosphere as an individual.
The plants and trees in my garden and immediate surroundings will rejoice thanks to me! Gobs of CO2 for the Felsenbirne, the Laerchen, and the whole plant gang!
I feel good!
Rulo says: ” I’m open to criticism, but please, not about the propaganda vehicle “AGW” – that’s not even in my top 20 priorities.””
NO responds: “I will pump silly amounts of CO2 into the air, pushing my carbon footprint into the stratosphere as an individual.”
It’s almost as if he didn’t read the OP.
I was responding to an item in Kdog’s post.
Are you going to cry because I don’t agree with you about the earth’s “carrying capacity.”
Cry away.
Owl,
in a previous thread, gustafson took the time to quote a few statistics and measurements to you, in answer to your request to prove hard evidence that the planet is in trouble.
The numbers are solid, published and reviewed by peers. But your thoughts are:
“Numbers and computer models are fallible and do not convince anyone with more than a few brain cells to rub together. Provide an argument that is not based on theory and guesswork.
Don’t be a slob now.”
So your request for evidence is not real. Because you want to believe you’re right. And anyone who doesn’t agree has no more than a few brain cells, or is a slob. OK.
Look, that Beemer of yours, cruising the autobahns, probably has leather in it. The leather came from the new, northward expanding cattle ranges of Brazil, which replaces millions of acres of the last remnants of the world’s major rainforest via slash and burn, after death squads deal with pesky journalists, tribal elders and foreign activists. That’s the only way to mass produce cheap leather. The tanning destroys wetland wildlife for miles downriver. That’s it. That’s how it’s done. You want hard evidence, look under your ass: your car seat. Or the IKEA chair made of Indonesian rainforest.
Here’s the evidence: the planet is finite. Not infinite. Our greed and hunger for “more, faster, cheaper”, however, is in fact infinite.
You’ll just believe what you want to believe. I have plenty of firewood stacked up, too. Because I didn’t chop down the woods in my land, and harvest firewood every summer. Giving the woods enough breathing room that, if done right, I’ll sustainable chop and burn my own wood for energy for as long as I live.
That is the kind of thinking missing in how environmental reality in a toxic post-capitalism, short term greed zeitgeist is managed: cut all the trees down, sell the wood, then buy a BMW with the $, and start looking for another woods to chop down. Gotta have the jetski, too.
Do some research on the carbon cycle, Clever Monkey. Your burnt wood does not add to systemic CO2 – it is not a fossil fuel.
Yes, it does Rednut. And it is consumed.
Life wins.
Rulo — post your hard evidence that the planet is at or near carrying capacity.
So many words, so little said.
Do some research on the carbon cycle, Clever Monkey. Your burnt wood does not add to systemic CO2 – it is not a fossil fuel. -rednut lunatic
Do you know what a carbon sink is?
Well, it’s obvious you are ignorant so here is this tid bit for you.
As trees grow, they take in carbon from the air and store it in wood, plant matter, and in the soil, making them what scientists call “carbon sinks.” In this way, forests play an important role in the global carbon cycle by soaking up lots of carbon dioxide that would otherwise live in the atmosphere.
Science!
@ Night Owl:
In my area at least, almost all the environmental damage could be reversed simply by getting rid of Big Ag. Large-scale government-subsidized corporate agriculture is what is destroying topsoils and poisoning the land. I suspect that Big Ag could be broken up simply by ending government subsidies, thus making the land available (at much reduced prices) to small farmers, as well as to many people who just want a small acreage of 5-20 acres.
This would dramatically change the whole landscape. We’d have thousands of people living on family farms and small acreages. These smaller holdings would be beekeepers, market gardeners, artisan cheesemakers, orchards, small poultry operations, producers of high-quality hay and high-quality beef, pork, mutton, goat, and chicken meats. The smallholder takes care of his land and animals and doesn’t poison the soil with pesticides and herbicides.
Perhaps like Germany, Missouri has ample firewood, and it’s fairly cheap. Depending on the weather, $400 worth of firewood may get me through the winter, though I am expecting to have to spend another $300-$400. (My house is small.) Firewood is my main source of heat.
My point is that there are ways to address environmental degradation that would create a far better world. Most proposals for addressing environmental degradation seem to aimed at creating a distopian nightmare world.
Ergo, I think it is safe to assume that the actual intent of the “green agenda” is to create a distopian nightmare world.
As with the various covid measures, one of the main things that tips you off that you’re dealing with a psyop is that all suggested remedies require you to embrace tyrannical state power and sacrifice all individual rights.
Agree Anthea.
Environmental poisoning and Big Agra is a different issue than this “carrying capacity” nonsense.
Much of what we consume at our house comes from local farm-to-table outfits, certified local producers of bio/organic products, or our garden.
@ Rulo Deschamps:
I think what you’re overlooking is that slash-and-burn cattle ranges for raising cattle and producing Brazilian leather for car seats for Beemers, while a bad idea, is not, in itself, a proof, or even an indication that the planet is overpopulated.
It is an indication that humans do stupid shit for stupid reasons. This does not necessarily mean that there are too many of us and we should stop reproducing; it means that we should stop doing stupid shit.
It just seems to me that all the resource depletion and other problems that are presumed to result from population pressures actually have other causes–which require other solutions than (necessarily) population reduction.
Much of the reason for resource depletion is that raw materials and manufactured goods are shipped halfway around the world–and back, in some cases. The obvious solution would be just to not allow it–which would (hopefully) be predicated upon the existence of local production of raw materials and manufactured goods. So you could probably fix this problem with tariffs. That’s what tariffs are supposed to be for, right? The protection of local production?
@ K-Hund. There is no evidence that CO2 in the atmosphere has caused any dangerous overheating in past geological eras when CO2 existed in the atmosphere at levels up to 20 times higher than what we have today. Scientists have been able to measure and graph those levels on a natural history timeline. A look at that graph reveals that only three times in the last 600 million years have CO2 levels been as low as ours. Dangerously low. If our current levels of CO2 had continued declining as they were on the graph before the industrial revolution – then life itself on the entire planet was going to disappear in some 20 million years – just a blip on the timeline of life here in general. We were at 280ppm CO2, and at around 140ppm CO2 photosynthesis stops and all life ends. During the carboniferous period when the globe was more tropical and covered with swamps and fern forests, CO2ppm was around ten times what it is right now, and this place was teeming with life – and lions, tigers, and dinosaurs – oh my!
We need more CO2, not less. All that carboniferous material that was once alive is now being lifted out of its burial places deep underground is once again back into the ecosystem. Plants LOVE and NEED CO2. The more of it they have, the faster they grow. Plants are the ultimate solar energy producers that transform water, CO2, and sunlight into sugar, starch, cellulose, etc.
Changing subject slightly. There is a limited amount of fossil fuel resources in the ground, and after all the wars are over and people everywhere (including all us CFN’rs) are living third world lifestyles, we’ll still be using fossil fuels, and sparingly. We’ll still be using gasoline in chainsaws, small generators, mopeds and motorbikes, garden rototillers, etc. Most of us still think that we’ll continue “happy motoring” into the future. We will not. Third world people live like folks in poor Asian countries. We won’t have a Dollywood, a Disneyworld, a restaurant everywhere culture, cars in driveways etc. All that will be scrapped or sold to other countries. In the new USA and Europe there will be no more family cars. Instead, it will be family bicycles and motorbikes, it’s all we’ll be able to afford. Tough shit but that’s the way its gonna be.
CO2 is the enemy of the Climate Death Cult.
For the rest of us, it is life.
Plant more “carbon sinks” [ trees ].
@messianic druid
Yes, I have been saying this off and on for years on this very blog.
If you must attribute a natural phenomenon onto mankind, at least make it plausible one.
How many trees have been hacked down and burned and never replaced?
Plant billions of them and watch things get better and let’s face it who does not like trees?
Who knows what the plans will be but you’ll never even have an opportunity to have the conversation at all if the neoliberal/neocons stay in power as their whole modis operandi is to commoditize and monetize all biolife on Earth for processing and consumption. They don’t care about the bio ecosystems because they plan on becoming immortal technoborgs made of metals and electrical currents.
Neoliberal and neocons only differ in approach. The goal of owning everything with everyone else owning nothing is their goal. Both neoliberals and neoconservatives are branches of predatory capitalism, and both worship at the church of it is all about me.
No, they worship at the church of power. The same power that sold you a fraudulent vaccine, starved families in 2020 and 2021, and ousted a president with a bad fake tan using fake news that would make the Onion blush.
You can’t pick and choose when it comes to who they are and what they did and continue to do.
Well said, Rulo.
Well, well, well.
Voting machines down all over the place today in key states.
Talk of the voting taking days to weeks.
They are going to try and steal it again, kids.
LOL.
How do the Russians manage to mess with our voting machines AND engage in a Special Military Operation at the same time?
lol…
They can pat their heads with one hand and rub their tummies with the other too. Russians have talent.
Putins cook, Russian oligarch and Kremlin ally Yevgeny Prigozhin said Monday he interfered in US elections in the past — and intends to keep it up.
Yeah, and sometime before 2:00 a.m. on October 28th it was closing time. David Depape met up in a bar with Paul Pelosi.
But,
The point of manipulation is to alter behavior with people being manipulated knowing they are manipulated. Since Russians are talented and Putin is Russian, perhaps Putin controls me without me knowing it? It seems logical.
After all. they can pat their tummies and rub their heads at the same time.
Gee, I was just making a joke.
So is Yevgeny Prigozhin making a joke.
Who is too busy with his restaurants to hypnotize you.
* for all those who don’t know that Mick and I joke.
Where I live voting was stolen when vote by mail became the ONLY option. I am bemused the red hat wearing crowd is upset about voter suppression.
For years it was the make America great, my country right, and you can get the fuck out of here crowd who suppressed voting. With the party of chaos trying to get dogs and cats the vote all the while.
Dogs yes, cats no.
Sadomasochistic devotion to the orange man turned the tables.
Why are the machines down?
I realize that staying on topic is hard, Cargill.
Ah, excuse me. This is the real Kdog, not Cargill’s troll acct.
The answer to the question. You have all the time in the world.
Pointing out that Republicans have a history of voter suppression stays on topic.
There is no real difference between the Republican and Democratic parties now, neither respect voting. Chaos is embraced.
True on both counts.
But you are a tick biased in the first paragraph. Voter suppression is not limited to one party, and it never has been.
Nothing I wrote says voter suppression is the purview of only one party. As a culture we reached nothing matters and anything goes a long time ago. This attitude infects any party an American now joins about as fast a spike protein on a cell membrane can jump its way in.
about as fast as a spike protein…
Weren’t there rabid howls for ‘count by hand’? You got your wish.
The post is more nuanced, Rednut.
Your IQ is what it is.
Of course it is…you’s such a smartarse…
Yes it is. Who are these people? How were they vetted?
I had to repeat it because you have the IQ of a slice of charred Melba toast.
@no
That insults burned melba toast everywhere.
“Nothing’s working”
A Dem and Rep are going to sit down together later on in the evening and tally the vote. Who are these people? What are the criteria for vetting them?
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1590023178755407872
Hahahahahahaha! Comedy levels of fraud again?
Bring back the cardboard!
C BLOG PLANET H.
Actress to read Synopsis of feature film ‘UTELAND’ set in… UTAH.
Her character name: Kim Harmon. Her allegorical function an Expositor of the fundamentals of a New Cinema.
Apologies – the above was intended as a stand-alone..
Reposting the Spectator article I tried and failed with yesterday, this time ‘in disguise’:
www dot spectator dot com dot au/2022/11/wots-in-the-shots/
The Spectator has the same (reclusive, tax exile) owners as the UK’s Daily Telegraph but doesn’t get money from billionaire eugenicists.
Yes, I posted that on Sunday, John001, having already posted it from a Maria Zeee interview. I was more than surprised to find it in a mainstream news mag.
It would be good to see the UK Spectator pick it up, but I think that is unlikely. They go so far – e.g. by criticising affronts to liberty – but never far enough, though I’m sure they know perfectly well what’s going on. One of the editors is married to the economist whose name I’ve forgotten who was involved in ‘Partygate’, so she – and therefore her husband – must have known there was no risk from partying.
Mango…you still readin’ the local cat box liner? Shame on you…stick w/ The Onion.
I mainly peruse it for Soucheray, tc.
Mango,
appreciate your comment. I try to contribute when I can, which is not often. Glad to see you around. Bummer of an election! Politics kaputt, I think.
Alex Berenson, on the vote (his perspective may be different from yours, but the message is still relevant: the fewer people vote, the narrower the margins, the greater the chance of fraud).
“In the lack of enthusiasm in Democratic precincts. Where I live, a bluish purple area of New York’s Hudson Valley, the lines to vote stretched almost an hour in 2020 as voters turned out against Trump. Today my daughter and I walked in and out.
Yet outside of Democratic districts, turnout is running high – a huge positive for Republicans, who tend to vote in person on Election Day.
Look, anything’s possible until the polls close and the votes are counted, but At this point it will be a major surprise if the Democrats don’t lose both the House and the Senate.
But I think the Democrats should be hoping they get crushed.
Why?
Tactically, they need a loss so big that Uncle Joe has no choice but to announce very quickly that he will not be running in 2024. They need a wide open primary that will help them find the next generation of CENTRIST Democrats. What they do not need, under any circumstances, is for Biden to limp along until late fall 2023 and then bow to reality, creating a giant mess that will only help those Democrats with super-high name recognition.
And strategically, they need to understand just how badly listening to the wokesters on Twitter has served them. They are so stunningly out-of-step with most Americans that even demolishing Roe v Wade could not save them this year. Even putting aside Covid and vaccine mandates, they need to move far from their leftist base on crime, immigration, energy security, and inflationary government spending.
A close loss will not force that reckoning. But a bad one will (I hope). And a saner Democratic Party will be good for everyone.
Plus the Republicans will HAVE to stop talking about election fraud if they win big. Okay, they won’t, the bad-faith nonsense from Trump will continue, but it will be easier and easier to tune out. We should have picked up 60 House seats instead of 50 is a pretty tough case to make.
Polls start closing in less than three hours on the East Coast. If you haven’t already, get out there and vote.
Is that The Rains of Castamere I hear?”
He doesn’t believe in the Steal? And neither do you to be quoting him?
Sad!
Kdog smiles, his red tongue lolling over his big teeth. He’s for fair elections of course! So why is he suddenly so happy?
This is why he is so deeply hated.
Yes, the Rains of Castamere – played at the Red Wedding.
Jarek, just speak for yourself, please. For myself, I’ve always liked K-Dog and still do. I don’t get that he is deeply hated.
It’s Tuesday, Nov 8th, and here in Florida we await Hurricane Nicole’s assault on an already weary and battle-stressed population. I too am down on my knees… praying.
As of 12 noon EST You Tube disabled all comments during the election. (weather-related I’m sure..)
Yes, I’ve been securing my greenhouses and tools today. Big system, but hopefully nothing like Ian. Aimed at my neck of FL last I checked.
Hope you will both be OK and not lose anything.
Thanks, Mary. Life is loss, though, in so many ways. But I appreciate the good wishes.
🙂
From the Horse’s Mouth: Mueller was correct. Go figure.
“Today, Yevgeny Prigozhin, a Russian oligarch and the leader of the private military company the Wagner Group, who is close to Russian president Vladimir Putin, boasted that Russians had interfered in U.S. elections and continue to do so. “We have interfered, we are interfering and we will continue to interfere. Carefully, accurately, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do.” He added: “During our pinpoint operations, we will remove both kidneys and the liver at once.”
Prigozhin is apparently behind the Russia-based “troll farms” that try to affect U.S. elections. Steven Lee Myers of the New York Times writes that Russians have indeed targeted the 2022 elections to make right-wing voters angry and undermine trust in U.S. elections. Their hope is to erode support for Ukraine’s struggle to repel Russian invasion by electing Republicans who side with Putin.”
Well, that last plan has worked extraordinarily well, you’d have to say, going by the amount of Putin Arse-kissing we can see around here.
Prigozhin remarks did not admit anything and were pure sarcasm. Like Paul Pelosi and DePape together in a gay bar.
How do you figure that, Kdog?
Perhaps he said so.
There are no words.
No, but there IS plenty of laughter.
🙂
Good. For once…
I have to let others get a few socks in.
Fun for all.
RL,
where’s that quote from? Source?
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/november-7-2022
RL,
OK, I read the piece. Mary says the US has meddled with elections too. Originally from Latin America, I know this for fact. Many US sponsored juntas and death squads, too. Every major power attempts to bend other countries’ politics in their favor.
Paula thinks it’s a spoof, and it sounds like one, but I dunno.
Here in the US, what I do know is that a massive witch hunt regarding this supposed Russian influence came up with zero evidence.
Rulo
It’s not a case of (yet again) “whaddaboutism”, though is it? MaryQAnon says it’s a parody, Night-Howler-Monkey says it’s a parody (both of whom NEVER believe anything off the bat but will await a take-down, spurious or not, it doesn’t matter to them), and KDog does as well. He has some credibility, but he is a tad cynical. I have no idea, but all I provided was a quote from a historian who has verified the position (her letters have full foot notes if you look right through the Nov 7 letter).
Fake Trae: See Paula’s MOA link and comment on it, below. Also see: My post about Time Magazine bragging about the US interfering in Russian elections in 1996.
You lose, again.
Scurry along.
“Whataboutism”
A man-child does his best to argue with the adults.
Yes, whataboutism has long been a feminine favorite here. They don’t like debate so they mock it.
See above where they mock my, “So you admit” – a classic challenge to a theory or intellectual position. “What about” is another. If the case of the latter, if the theory can’t account for what is brought up, it is incomplete or as least stated too broadly.
LOL.
The US admitted and bragged about interfering with Russian Elections on the cover of Time, circa 1996.
What say you about this, rednut?
https://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html
The US regularly interferes in internal Russian politics.
The CIA via the State Department under H. Clinton supported anti-Putin “protests” in Moscow, while she was Secretary.
The Democrat outrage is based on their claim that the Russians stole information from the DNC and gave it to Wikileaks.
They say that once voters were informed of the facts they voted wrong.
Their solution is to make sure that voters remain uninformed, as we saw during the 2020 election when the FBI sat on Hunter’s computer and the media told us it was Russian disinformation.
In 2016 the FBI sat on Seth Rich’s computer and they are still sitting. They announced last week that they will release it in 66 years.
Then the Democrats ran a 2 year disinformation campaign about Russiagate, in which they hired a fixer named Robert Mueller to “investigate” it.
Robert Mueller spent 2 years and millions of dollars ”investigating” the leak without ever interviewing Craig Murray, who said he took the jump drive to England, or Julian Assange, who published the proof that the DNC stole the primary from Bernie Sanders.
How is it that the Democrats who voted for Sanders were convinced to hate Russia instead of the DNC?
They stupid.
What’s more, they have been convinced to hate Julian Assange because he gave them information their betters did not want them to have, and they support his persecution and torturous imprisonment.
Why do they want to be uninformed? They stupid.
The Prigozhin spoof was written as a joke and it was not written by him, but by Russian pranksters. Why do Democrats believe it?
They stupid.
MoA covered it today.
ww.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/putins-chef-ridicules-us-news-outlets-adds-election-interference-comedy-sketch.html#more
Rednut believes anything from the MSM and parody sites too it would seem. Thanks for the link.
Concerning Earth carrying capacity questions
Example, the Netherlands
Night Owl wrote:
“No. If I need food, I don’t need to live in the Shire. We have technology for that. Even outdated farming tech. provides food for populations that far exceed what could fit in a particular land mass — as the Dutch have shown.
In terms of actual land mass, we are nowhere near carrying capacity.
Anything else?”
…
Let’s look at Netherlands’ statistics. Most Dutch land is flat and potentially farmable, about 7M acres out of 9M. This includes all current urban and agricultural areas.
In 1850, with something like maximum non-oil-based agricultural technology, the Dutch population was about 3.5M. At that time, the Netherlands were pretty agriculturally efficient, and land was devoted to agriculture in a pretty equivalent percentage to the present day. They were farming with animal power. If any country was close to carrying capacity at that time, in the context of mid-19th century ag tech, it was probably the Netherlands.
Their population per farmable acre was 1 person to 2 acres.
From 1850 to the present, during the oil era, the Netherlands’ population has increased from 3.5M to 18M. It’s pretty difficult not to attribute most of this increased carrying capacity to the inputs of petroleum energy during this period.
With petroleum-based agricultural technology, the Dutch population per farmable acre is 1 person to 0.4 acres, which should be a relative, approximate carrying-capacity ratio of persons per farmable acre for the Earth if petroleum-based agricultural tech is available. (All their farmable land is farmed, and to state-of-art efficiency).
Now, the energy question. How much energy is sustainably available to humans? Fossil fuels are not sustainably available. Nuclear is at best available for a few thousand years at current energy-use levels, then the fuel runs out. Neither fossils nor nuclear is a sustainable source of energy for humans on Earth. For a sustainable energy maximum carrying capacity calculation, you have to go back to 1850 (at least). You have to go back, essentially to the Netherlands’ 1 person per 2 farmable acres ratio.
Well, we are currently, globally at something much closer to 1 person per 1.3 farmable acres. (And, I did this 1.3 calculation myself. it includes ALL the land on Earth that is not desert, mountainous or prohibitively cold. It’s a very generous figure, completely analagous to the Netherlands’ figures.)
This means that the only way we are not overpopulated in terms of sustainable carrying capacity right now is if either 1) every single acre of farmable land on Earth were farmed in a way similar to the Netherlands in 1850, and we’d still come up a little bit short, most likely…
OR… there is some SUSTAINABLE source of additional energy input that 1) has not been discovered yet, and 2) would have to not cause further ecological damage on a planet farmed from end to end with field after field like the Netherlands was by 1850.
And…an energy source fitting these criteria won’t be found because it does not exist in this universe.
The Dutch feed half of Europe, and this despite half of its land being a flood plane.
This is why there is such an uproar here about your WEF friends seizing farms, culling cattle, and implementing restrictions on cow farts.
Were the Dutch model expanded, we could feed considerabily more people who would potentially populate large swathes of livable but possibly non-arable land.
And this is without considering the most modern of farming techniques.
The question of space at the global level of course is not even worth discussing. As humans do not even occupy 50% of the land mass on earth, and of course much of the land that is occupied is utilized extremely inefficiently, like my 1000qm house tract, which your friends in Davos would use for approximately 3.5 houses vs. my single-family home.
“Plain” and qm is square meter translated.
Talking points almost completely and disjointedly unrelated to mine and much less supported.
The question of exports is legitimate only in a limited sense. Netherlands imports plenty. And you completely ignored every aspect of energy input questions, because if there is a great crop surplus in the Netherlands, much of it is attributable to fossil inputs. Return to 1850 if you want to start getting real.
You should just admit you’re impervious to actual discussion on certain subjects… or don’t, and maintain your proud, empty pretence and poor reflection generally on your limited ideas.
The world you describe, with the “Netherlands agricultural model” applied everywhere and many more humans inhabiting highrises in the deserts serviced by rail lines, etc… it sounds a whole lot like… hmm, what’s that sound like? It sounds a lot like the world as Davos and Klaus envision it… lmao.
See, my perspective’s an infinitely better opposition to the Davos outlook than simpistic folks like you can ever muster. You will end up arm in arm with Davos… the signs are already there, loud and clear.
gustafson,
yes, we do think along the same lines. I also commented about Owl’s strange alignment with Davos’ official position… before seeing your answer. Very strange. What else is he in agreement with Gates about?
Speaking of Gates, he’s bought a whole lot of ag land in my region.
Hi tech farming is only possible with unlimited access to cheap energy. Absent cheap energy, as it seems certain within a few years, guarantees plummeting food production, the way ag works right now.
Yes. Owl’s confused, forgets the (huge) tech-optimist utopian side of Davos entirely and likes to say they fear-monger with (fake) coming shortages simply to acquire power.
It’s a huge number of rightist people out there lumping limits to fossil supplies right along with the most strained and hyper climate messaging, as all bunk. How can fossil supply limits be irrelevant? There’s no logic beyond “early peak oil predictions were untrue” and “all fear-mongering is leftist bunk.”
Nuclear scares me the most, because there’s real potential there possibly, for a while, as fossil supplies shrink slowly to keep the show running somehow. Owl and Klaus are both on team “keep this show running.” That’s the real line in the sand. Most who want this show running at almost any cost, and the few who are ready to disavow contemporary civilization’s show and trajectory, and dismantle.
But then for Owl and lots of simplistic rightists, Davos is the dismantling force, and the status quo is just fine, no dismantling required. In a complex world, simplicity’s intoxicating, I guess.
I think NO is just like a whole lot of folks in the US…comfortable.
Doesn’t mean he can’t complain about the establishment and discern bullshit where it lies…but in the end we are all in this for ourselves, as much as we try to care for those close to us. If we as individuals aren’t winning, we’re losing
Your post made no sense.
Which is why you do not point out specifics.
You are a hack, like Gus.
What?
If you’re referring to Rulo, I would point out that he has been a consistent source of strong thinking here, with some nice surprises. If you’re referring to me, I would point out that I said nothing inflammatory – only being realistic and complimentary.
Not you, Mango.
I would be surprised if you believed the earth was at “carrying capacity,” but who knows.
If you did, I would assume you would make a more interesting case than the soft-serve provided to date.
Gotcha. I have no idea what the carrying capacity of the earth is, but it seems to work just fine as long as people try to pitch in to meet that goal. The question is what will the number be when the Gates’ of the world say “it’s enough already, we need our steak to not be eaten up by the lumpen masses, because we deserve it more, cuz bank account.”
Night Owl’s world of endless growth could be possible for awhile through centralized global control.
But they have said overtly they have no intention of allowing for any such thing.
Thus his position is simply untenable for political reasons, and not just in terms of resources.
As Mango says, the idea of limits make him uncomfortable. Heave forbit that he is uncomfortable! Like a sign on a road saying to slow down. What if you like to drive fast? Limits? Fuck ’em.
What happens when we reach the limit and we don’t even know it because all such talk was rendered taboo? Everyone dies at that point. Back to the stone age for the tiny remnant.
I do not believe in endless growth, Jarek.
All these straw men and claims of what I supposedly believe floating around, muddying the waters. Interesting.
Meanwhile, we wait for your proof that the earth is at “carrying capacity.”
Great! So when do we stop? What’s YOUR idea of the Earth’s carrying capacity?
Answers: Not now.
Second answer: Don’t know, don’t want to know. Not during my lifetime in any case.
You are arm in arm with Davos. You want what they want: depopulation.
You are unable to engage, and quite angry.
M—hmm. Okay.
What do you want that they do not want?
Go into detail.
Owl,
yes, with massive energy inputs. Energy being one of the things becoming scarce. Mr K’s entire body of work deals with Peak Oil.
I don’t believe the vertical farms, automated, “carbon free”, hi-tech hyped by the WEF will be feasible in an energy-scarcity world. Do you?
And knowing what you know about the vaxxes, how can you parrot Davos’ hi-tech hype? How can you believe anything they say, unless I’m not understanding your point. Open any issue of the NYT or the Atlantic and you’ll see celebrations of the “new ag”, sure to come soon, along the flying car and the metaverse.
Bull. The shelves WILL be bare for most people.
Davis hype? Dutch farming has nothing to do with Davos.
Try reading the post again. Or is this what you do when you cannot provide what I have requested?
@ Night Owl:
Vast areas of the earth are not used at all by humans. South Africa, prior to European settlement, was scarcely liveable. After European settlement it became an agricultural powerhouse. This is likewise true of Rhodesia. During WWII, Switzerland, even with its very limited resources of arable land, was able to become food self-sufficient. Land that is not arable can be used for grazing. Many suburban properties are large enough to produce an abundance of food. Much work is being done–by small farmers, and not by Big Ag–with land restoration. This is an interesting subject that I have not really looked into. Some of the people who are doing this kind of work claim that even deserts can be restored.
We have resource-depletion problems mainly because of a top-down economic organization has been forced on us. This type of organization is, by its very nature, extractive.
“Vast areas of the earth are not used at all by humans”
Correct. One reason why the idea that we are near “carrying capacity” is absurd — and never backed by any hard evidence from the Malthusian Climate Death Cult.
Drive through Nevada. It’s mostly a vast wasteland. There are lots of place like that. People who don’t factor such acreage into their calculations are simply humoring you in your madness.
Some places like that can be turned green, like the the deserts of Eastern Washington and Oregon. But there is often water nearby (the Columbia and Snake rivers). No such water in most of Nevada.
Get it from other places? Already being done elsewhere. There isn’t enough water in the West for the places that have already been so developed.
People are humoring me; that’s nice. So, do you have evidence that the earth is at “carrying capacity?” Also, can you tell us what the hard number is for “carrying capacity?”
A bold claim (or claims now?) requires bold evidence.
gustafson,
thank you for having this conversation. I can’t know for sure what’s on your mind, but I suspect we think along the same lines. Since I farm organically, I know how hard it is for an acre to produce any amount of food without the energy used for everything from the rototiller to fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides, not to mention long distribution lines.
You mention energy usage and tech of the 1850’s, and I take the liberty to paste a few paragraphs here that deal with exactly that issue. It’s an article I published in one of the small regional papers where I’m at. The article was titled “Future to the Past”
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There are changes ahead – not necessarily a bad thing. Consuming less can be healthy and rewarding. It’s important to be aware of realistic potential scenarios, especially when it comes to the food we eat. It’s easy to give up Disney trips and jet-skis, but eating is non-negotiable. To be blunt, the food shortages and inflation we’ve experienced recently are likely to get worse. That’s the bad news. The good news is that history teaches us that it’s entirely possible to feed large numbers of people using old farming techniques. Let’s take a look at the agriculture that once was, what we have now, and what we’re likely to have as resource depletion picks up speed. Spoiler: the agriculture of the future looks like that of the past, but nothing like the energy hungry agro-industry we have now.
Agriculture can be intensive, or extensive. Extensive agriculture means the cultivation of large tracts of land. Intensive is growing food on much smaller areas. Historically, America was able to produce impressive amounts of food on large fields without using fossil fuels or chemical fertilizers, which require large amounts of fossil fuels to produce. Primitive technologies, from plows pulled by oxen to the massive horse powered combines still in use a hundred years ago, combined with time-tested practices such as fallowing and cover-cropping to maintain soil fertility, made possible the production of enough grains and dry legumes to keep the US fed, along with enough surplus for export. Staples like wheat, dry beans and dry peas keep well without refrigeration, and could be transported by carriage to the nearest waterway or railroad station.
Intensive agriculture was required for produce, eggs, and many small livestock, as shipping fresh food long distance was not an option. Besides knowledge and work, a few garden tools were all that was required. Most homes had kitchen gardens. Large cities were surrounded by market gardens, so the stores would have food other than staples for sale.
The “green revolution” of the 1960’s eliminated this division. It became possible to grow almost any crop extensively, not just dry staples. Some of the tools that made this possible include genetically modified seeds, advances in shipping, cool storage, chemical fertilizers and pesticides, automation and economies of scale. Food production became more abundant all over the world. Populations exploded. Prices fell and smaller players could not compete. Hundreds of acres could be put into production with minimal human labor, as long as expensive equipment, cheap energy and lots of fertilizers and pesticides were available. Salads didn’t need to be grown locally: they could be trucked from one coast to the other of the continental US. Fresh grapes could be flown in from Chile when out of season, and so on: cheap, abundant fossil fuels made it possible.
This is the model that’s collapsing. For example, rock phosphate, a key ingredient in fertilizer, is rapidly depleting. Ask any farmer about the cost of fertilizer, or diesel, or cold storage come the spring planting season: it will be much higher than last spring. Translation? Food prices will be higher and shortages more acute. But I’m optimistic! Farmers are smart and always find a way. To be clear, Big Ag is not the problem. Many large growers increasingly incorporate sustainable practices, such as crop rotation and cover crops. We need all agriculture, big and small. This article is a “what if.” What if energy and chemicals become scarce? Do we have a plan B? Florida, and America, produced lots of food a hundred years ago, without the technology we now take for granted. Could we do it again?
We could if we go forward to the past and bring human and animal muscle, low tech and traditional methods back to the fields. The TV dream of robots and artificial intelligence growing all our food in high rises will not come to pass. Instead, we’ll see lots of people tilling fields, with help from the occasional biodiesel tractor. The jobs of the future are not Instagram influencer or Bitcoin trader; they are agricultural laborer, farrier, mule breeder. Old timers who remember how things used to be done in bygone days will be valuable resources.
Small Ag will be every bit as important as Big Ag to make sure nobody goes hungry. Millions of folks are attending backyard gardening seminars, raising chickens and rabbits, learning seed-saving, composting and the many other skills necessary for year-round small scale food production. Join them! Even if someone somewhere comes up with a new source of cheap energy (maybe unicorn dust), you have nothing to lose by ripping up the lawn and planting potatoes. You’ll exercise, be healthier, and be an asset to the community, adding to your area’s sustainability and food security. You’ll depend less on increasingly fragile supply lines.
Arriving in 1955, Marty and his mad scientist friend, “Doc” Brown, realize there’s no plutonium to power the time-traveling DeLorean back to the future. Eventually they come up with a scheme to harvest a lightning bolt’s energy and come back to their own era: everybody loves a happy ending! But only children believe “happily ever after” is always the outcome in real life. Adults know happy endings are possible only through hard work, ingenuity, intelligence, teamwork, and a bit of luck. Hoping for the best is fine, but not planning for the worst is a mistake. It’s time to turn the TV off and mobilize every ounce of strength, every skill you’ve got, and every neighbor, friend and relative towards one goal: independence from long supply chains by growing as much food as possible in your own backyard, neighborhood and region. Godspeed!
Forward to the Past, rather. I can’t even remember the title of what I write. In reference to the 1985 great movie, Back to the Future.
The way you laid it out. ‘Back To The Future’ looks to be going back to slavery and serfdom.
K,
yes, probably. I hope not. What do you think?
@ K-Chien:
Not necessarily. It could mean going back to small family farms.
I am always puzzled by people who think that working for Twitter represents freedom, and producing food (on your own farm) is slavery–presumably because the latter involves getting up out of your chair and engaging in physical activity, which is likely to take place–the horror!–outdoors. So instead of sitting in your warm cubicle on the graveyard shift, you might be out in the barn on a frigid February night during lambing season. At other times of the year, you might even have to walk around some.
Great optimistic article, Rulo.
Apparently NO thinks that all you need to grow plants is carbon dioxide.
But it takes topsoil, water and sunlight as well. American farmers blew through 6 feet of topsoil in the midwest in less than 200 years.
And a lot of food in the US is produced on the plains using aquifer water. When that is gone so are the staple crops grown there.
I looked up what the Netherlands exports. Seems to be tulips and tomatoes, and then animal products like cheese and butter.
Humans need the dense calorie foods like grains and legumes to survive and you can’t grown those for 8 billion people in hothouses and vertical towers.
We can live without tomatoes but we can’t live without enough calories. That would be why there were regular famines up to the mid part of the 20th century, when fossil fuels became part of most farming practices, and wheat, corn and rice started being produced in mass quantities.
All of us on this blog were born since then and no one has any idea what it is like to go hungry, although that was a regular part of my parents’ childhood. It seems that some people can’t even picture it or understand that it will happen when 8 billion people need to be fed without oil. It is literally beyond their ken.
I think that NO doesn’t understand that we are running out of accessible oil and that means that the 9 calories of oil we use for every calorie of food we produce will no longer be available.
We should have learned from the biggest environmental disaster of the 20th century, the Dust Bowl.
But we didn’t. Now half the US is in drought. Check out drought maps. It’s mind-blowing.
We can’t just use up arable soil and not replace it, as you say. Those things take time.
But let’s put repubs in charge.
Is that your solution? Stomp or grunt once for “yes.”
One point that is rarely mentioned as an advantage to producing food locally is the avoidance not only of fuel for transport but also of all the packaging that is needed—plastic, wood for pallets, cardboard boxes of small retail-size packaged food.
All one-use; all hugely wasteful of precious resources.
@ Islander:
It is astonishing to me that the price of store-bought produce is usually cheaper than the price of locally grown produce at the farmers’ market. There are, I suspect, two reasons for this: 1)
store-bought produce is often of a grossly inferior quality (due to chemical fertilizers, highly mechanized farming, and long-distance shipping), and 2) Big Ag gets a lot of government subsidies.
I strongly suspect that if we did away with government subsidies for agriculture, almost all Big Ag companies would go bankrupt.
Here in Europe quite a lot of beef comes from the Netherlands as well.
I personally garden organically, so I know a bit about it.
Most fertilizers are illegal here.
I look forward to another post about what you think I know.
Then more tears.
NO’s made it clear he will defend the ignorances, simplicities, scapegoating and exaggerations of his particular WEF-conspiricist-tribe dogma from any challenge from reality… and defend much less with any reasoning than with pure entrenchment like a kind of David Miscavige for that church.
So quickly done with the Netherlands export question other than “we get beef from there” (lol) as a central point weakens under him, and the cold refusal to discuss the main issue, energy, in this context continues. Dogma or death.
You have made it clear that you have no hard evidence for you point.
I have made it clear that one tiny country on a massive flood plain supplies the food for a large chunk of Europe, and are thus being targeted by your WEF friends.
As always, I remain open for convicing (hard) evidence, but we both know you have none.
You’ve made nothing clear but the lack of depth behind your positions and unwillingness to handle certain issues on the plane of reason.
You still cannot argue your basic supposition. You have only models and guesswork.
Hard evidence is tough to come by, when none exists.
You are not intelligent enough to understand the core reason you fail.
You want hard evidence? Then when someone gives you some you say mathematical models are always flawed.
Always? Ridiculous you are.
A predictive model is not hard evidence. It is someone’s best guess.
Al Gore tried this a long time ago. So did Fauci just recently.
Most impressive.
Ok then. If it hasn’t happened yet, it’s predictive and thus invalid. Thus until the human race dies off, we’re wrong.
What a genius!
I garden organically, and have been very blessed and lucky by having a nearly inexhaustible supply of composted leaves nearby. I mix in all the wood ashes from my wood heater into my garden soil. It’s so rich and black that I don’t benefit from any chemical fertilizers. I do add crushed limestone and dolomite to keep the ph from getting too acid. One thing I’ve experienced is that I no longer need to use pesticides in any significant way. I used to have my potatoes attacked by potato beetles, flea beetles, etc. Not any more. The few plants that seem to get attacked the worst by insects are the weak looking and spindly ones, and I only spray them to keep the beetles from maybe spreading from there. Last year I sprayed nothing on my taters and I got a great crop. I do think it seems to be true that insects are more inclined to feed on weak plants than on strong and healthy ones.
During WWII some 40% of the USA’s food supply came via “Victory Gardens”. When we go back to our old ways of producing food locally with little chemical inputs, very likely our collective health will improve dramatically. Not only do people need the exercise involved in growing their own, they’ll benefit by having much better quality food. Getting the public to go back to the way we used to be might be extremely difficult and involve a lot of trauma, starvation, and chaos before we get it all figured out. You cannot live a self sufficient lifestyle and have time to watch tv, play golf, or go on vacations. At the moment, most everyone is delusional about where their food comes from.
@ Woodchuck:
We also grown a large garden organically. Since my daughter and her husband raise chickens and goats, the garden is almost entirely fertilized with animal manures–which are very adequate for most crops.
The past year, we applied purchased organic fertilizer to a 50′ row of tomatoes and left another 25′ row unfertilized. The difference between the health and productivity of the two rows was staggering–although my daughter tells me that the 25′ row is in a part of the garden that has never done very well. (Probably because it’s farthest from the goat shed and doesn’t get manured.)
The 50′ row of tomatoes also got some other amendments: Epsom Salts, Tums, and aspirin. We did not make any additional applications of either fertilizer or other amendsments during the growing season–though you’re supposed to make additional applications of fertilizer and Epsom Salts as the season progresses.
Of course we had the usual disappointments with some crops. Not everything does well every year. Some years you have a lot of varmints or bugs, or the weather is uncooperative. It’s like any other business: You win some, you lose some. The good year for tomatoes may be a bad year for green beans. Next year it will be the other way around.
We use no herbicides or pesticides at all, and I’d say productivity was very good–especially considering that my daughter started working full-time in early summer, so that most of the garden work and the canning and freezing fell to one old woman (me).
Next year I hope to apply organic fertilizer to everything. I have already purchased the fertilizer. But even without purchased fertilizer, our collards had leaves the size of an elephant’s ear.
It’s pretty amazing what can be done with minimal inputs and no herbicides or pesticides. I calculate that we have canned or frozen about 300 pounds of produce, with tomatoes being about 100 pounds of that.
My son-in-law is not too interested in growing vegetabes–I think mainly because my daughter and I are quite skilled at that, and he would have a steep learning curve to catch up (plus he has little time for that)–but he is interested in growing wheat–and also in hunting some venison this fall.
Could we be food self-sufficient? I think so–but on a more austere diet, for sure. And if my daughter were able to work the farm full-time, I’m pretty sure we could be food self-sufficient on a rather luxurious diet.
I’ve an arrangement with the small city I live in that they dump as many truckloads of leaves at my place as I have room for. It benefits them to dump at my place because I’m close by to the operations center where they park their leaf trucks and giant vacuum machines that in fall suck all the leaf piles up off the roadsides. They save time and fuel by dumping leaves at my place instead of hauling loads miles out into the county. I don’t have any animals as a source of natural fertilizer.
What I do with fresh and un-composted leaves.is spread them all over my garden plot in between the rows before the plants get too big to drive a small garden tractor over them, with the tires running in between the rows. I’m pulling a trailer loaded with leaves and I use a pitchfork to spread a foot thick layer of leaves everywhere on the entire plot. This is very labor intensive for a few weeks or so with me doing nothing but spreading leaves all day long. Retired people like myself can find time to spend days and weeks doing this. But then I’m done for the entire crop. The thick layer of leaves prevents weeds from growing and prevents water from evaporating out of the soil under it. After getting the leaves all spread my garden work is done until harvest time. Then the really boring and unpleasant part (for me at least) begins. I’m a slave in a hot kitchen for days on end freezing and canning it all.
The only way to survive the canning boredom is via audiobooks and podcasts. I plant calorie intensive crops like corn, pole beans, and potatoes. Right now, I’m processing pole lima beans that I grow on old fencing. I let them grow for the entire season, with most of them drying naturally on the vine. I harvest them when the shells are dry, thin as paper, and just crumble apart. That way avoids the extra hassle of shelling the hard green ones. . I just place the dried beans in vacuum seal freezer bags and that’s it. Spending hours shelling limas by hand is beyond boring.
Still, without diesel for my small tractor, and gas for my small engine powered garden equipment – well – I couldn’t do what I’m doing right now. Still, I use far less fossil fuels this way than if I was buying food shipped halfway across the country. Food loaded with roundup residues and lacking in nutrients. I do share and sell my extra produce. I’ve friends and relatives that love fresh garden food, but they are all too busy with their high tech lives and lifestyles, and consider my activities to be a hobby, which I don’t. I got this way from reading peak oil doom porn a few decades ago. I tell everyone that someday there will be a time of little to no food available at the grocery stores. They scoff at discussion of peak oil and change the subject when I talk about famine in the future. So for much of my ranting and raving, I need to come to CFN to get it out of my system.
@ Woodchuck:
My market-gardener friend, who gardens organically, recently mentioned on Facebook that leaves can provide something like 75% of the nutrients needed by garden vegetables and are an excellent substitute for commercial organic fertilizers. Because of their deep root systems, trees are able to pull up micronutrients from deep in the subsoil, so fertilizing with the leaves is excellent for both plant nutrition and human nutrition.
In former times, farmers used to collect leaves fromt he forests, but this led to degradation of woodlands over time. In your case, where you’re getting the leaves from suburban lawns, this should be a great option. Farmers also used to haul greensand from the seashore to feltilize gardens.
@ Woodchuck:
About the only thing that is mechanized in our garden is the tiller, which gets used once in spring. This year we put down weed barrier between the rows. (We don’t have access to the volume of leaves that you do.) At my previous house, I used to lay cardboard between the rows and pile leaves on top of it, but it can be hard to scrounge up enough cardboard.
We’ve never gotten serious about potatoes or dry beans. I’m a diabetic, so I shouldn’t eat potatoes at all, and even beans are pushing it–though I LOVE beans and legumes of all kinds.
I also love canning, and don’t even mind freezing too much. Before my daughter went back to work full time, we used to do this together, and it was fun. A day of canning is pretty much a day of processing the vegetables to go into jars and then into the pressure cooker. After that, I can play on the internet till the canner beeps, set the presure valve to airtight, and play on the computer till the canner beeps again. I’ve never picked so much produce at one time that I needed to do this twice in one day.
Now shelling peas probably is boring. Up there with shelling nuts–or crocheting. I once crocheted a bedspread for a daughter’s wedding, and I was only able to do this because I was in poor health and couldn’t do much besides sit on the sofa, and because I watched Breaking Bad twice all the way through.
Nobody around here scoffs at the idea of being food self-sufficient.
I put a bunch of collards in the freezer yesterday (actually only 3 pounds), but I set aside some for dinner, to go with the pork chops.
Lawdy! They were good! (Hat tip to Montreal Steak Seasoning on the pork chops.) Collards cooked in the drippings with onion and garlic powder and malt vinegar and soy sauce is divine.
When my daughter makes kale this way, she calls it Kale Crack.
About shelling peas. In spring, the first seeds I plant are sugar snap peas. Mine get very tall and I grow them on a six food fence. No shelling involved with sugar snaps. Just cut the ends and strings off (if any), blanch ’em a few minutes, and then pack into vacuum seal freezer bags. Very simple and you eat them in the shells. Great for salads, stir frying etc. and taste better than regular peas. I had a poor crop last year due to frost damage. If you don’t plant them early enough you’ll have a poor crop because they don’t tolerate heat very well.
Populations exploded. That has been since white mans juju…meds and sanitation.
cheap food accelerated this.
Rulo, the pre-industrial, family farm world you describe is the world that we should be transitioning to, could easily be transitioning to, bringing with us some useful high tech while it still works, and probably would naturally be transitioning to if we as a people were left alone to pursue our best interests.
Unfortunately, I don’t think that we will be allowed to rebuild our world by hand – because we too are commodities, to be stamped, tracked, traded, used and discarded – I think it is the direction we should be taking.
Our food shouldn’t travel more than we do.
Lake Winnipeg: lots of whitefish. Whitefish: lots of bones. Canadians want lots of money to remove those bones. Result: no commercial whitefish fishery on Lake Winnipeg.
Financial genius realizes that flying the fish to China and paying Chinese laborers to remove the bones, then flying the fish back to Canada – or the US, or wherever – is cheaper than paying Canadian laborers. Result: commercial whitefish fishery on Lake Winnipeg.
I don’t want to support a system like that.
Me neither, Bird. But many think it’s the best possible system. So we detach, find a spot, and plant ourselves in it. Won’t be stamped, tracked, discarded. Will live our lives according to what our soul, or stubbornness, dictates.
Our offspring will have it harder.
Theirs, worse, and so on.
But some will always resist. Until the Earth dies, some will keep working with her, not against.
Be well, my friend. If only we could get back to that remote, blissful, simpler time of hours building a Me262 or a Sherman. Shrouds have no pockets except for the memory of good things and good times.
Humans are in population overshoot. And denial of it.
generalization. some know.
Be part of the solution then.
Don’t breed, stop eating, live in a cave, and most of all dirty carbon emitter stop breathing.
ben,
I hope I’m part of the solution, not by doing all the things you mention, but by consuming very little, generating little trash, growing good organic food working with Nature and not against it. Above all, embracing voluntary poverty, although I do have land, the only true wealth.
Assuming there is a solution. Not in the short term, anyway.
I think as we age most of us go “fuck it, I’ll have the Chilean Sea Bass and who cares about extinction, I worked at GE for 43 years, I deserve it, and apres moi le deluge”
Some of us don’t. Maybe because we are parents and grandparents, or maybe because it’s a damn shame that rivers, oceans, forests and everything else have to be sacrificed to our sense of entitlement.
How are you part of the (unlikely) solution, then?
Sometimes I have the heart of a dog.
Have you ever read Mikhail Bulgakov’s novel of the same name?
It’s very good.
Good Catch, I read it last month. That is why I wrote what I did, the reference fits as you know.
It was a good thing for Bulgakov that Stalin was a fan. Bulgakov stayed alive.
We can only do what we can do.
No, Ben. Others need to do this. Those who point it out get to live.
Very WEFish. And about as grounded in reality as a virus sweeping the earth.
😉
You might be right there, Dog.
Or maybe not. I don’t know.
If the majority were living in the standards of let us say, 15th Century Italy, would it be “more sustainable”?
We might very well be sliding back towards that time.
I suppose then disease, and the disappearance of modern medicine would limit the human population.
I don’t see any evidence at all that a very comfortable and utterly safe lifestyle made possible by massive fossil fuel use and technology has been a good thing. Instead, this lifestyle has lead everyone into mental illness, delusional behavior, and slavery to a substance (fossil fuel energy). If you are totally dependent on a fossil fuel machine to feed you then you are in the same living state experienced by a farm animal in complete dependency on the farmer. Whoever controls your food controls you, its just a fact of life.
A sane human race would have realized the need to conserve and save fossil fuel resources for future generations to enjoy and make us of. How about our great grand children? They might not want or need very much, just enough to take the edge off things and be able to use a rototiller instead of a hoe. Maybe get to ride a motorbike instead of a bicycle. But no, OUR generation must pig everything up as fast as we can possibly gobble it. Our lifestyles and appearances are soooo important! It seems we don’t care about future generations. Nor do we mind at all the idea of leaving the people of the future the unpleasant task to monitor for thousands of years all the radioactive feces our nuke plants have left behind.
Judging by our behavior, it doesn’t seem that we expect the human race to be around much longer in the first place. Eat drink and be merry etc. cause we’re all gonna die tomorrow. Strange apocalyptic thinking and behavior here, as if we want this civilization to end because we’ve grown tired of it. We don’t care about the future to start with. We’re addicted to fossil fuels and we’ll rob our own children’s future to avoid having to detox and sober up.
Yes
good points
@ Woodstock:
You make a point that, IMHO, can’t be stressed enough: Material abundance does not lead to human happiness, mental or physical health, good personal relationships, or a good society. It seems to lead to the exact reverse.
I don’t think peace and plenty is in itself a bad thing. Maybe the real problem is the lack of meaningful, self-directed work–and the basic non-productiveness and valuelessness and slave-like conditions of most modern work. What I see, and what I have experienced myself, is that people LOVE to work, when they are self-employed and working for themselves, producing a product or performing a service that they enjoy and take pride in–and where they have complete control of production or of the service. What people hate is working for someone else.
I think it was Tolstoy who observed that the Russian serf tended to be a lazy no-account who was resistant to innovation. But if that same Russian peasant owned his own farm he became diligent, highly productive, and innovative.
Woodchuck, yes, thank you.
Gus, it’s been a very long time, but I do recall reading somewhere that Nicola Tesla was hellbent on locating and appropriating on the surface of the Earth just such a “near-infinite” source of free energy.
In terms of what is steadily being discovered about the laws of time and space, not to mention physical reality, I’d say it’s a bit rash to state unequivocally that an energy source that would fulfill all demands “…does not exist in this universe”.
I think it is plenty soon, after a century and a half of deep, extensive exploration into these matters, to call it quits on fusion, intensive space mining, and all other similar perpetual energy schemes and dreams.
Nuclear fission has capabilities, but the timeframe is also limited.
It becomes a case not of proving beyond all doubt no undescovered energy horizon is out there but of weighing probabilities and making rational decisionl00. Also, of weighing the ecological costs of surplus energy usage, even should some Tesla-like pipe dream actually land like manna from heaven..
Often the Starship Enterprise went to planets where the people lived very simply and organically – yet revealed that it was by choice and that they understood and use high tech in some areas.
This is the true Vision. Night Owl and Gus must be combined to create the True Man of the future. Obviously He will be a higher type than we are right now.
If things keep going the way they are, in the future, I will be living on a remote tract of land in a hut of wood and mud.
I am not designed for a world of scientific fraud used to corral a herd into a digital pen.
You can merge Gus and Harari.
In your refusal to engage with the data you’re no better than the Ghoul at this point.
The Netherlands 1850 is a questionable benchmark, or index, since at least 700 sq. miles of land have been created since then.
Jim your next blog entry should be titled
Very, Very, Very Probably
DeSantis winning Miami-Dade 56-42 with 60% in. This is major bad news for Dems. In my neck of the woods, rural north FL, my county reports 80-20 for DeSantis.
Respect the governor’s firm stand against mandatory lockdowns and big Pharma mandates. Let’s hope for more good news nationwide.
I hope DeSantis stands firm on those things – anti-lockdown and anti-indoctrination by Drag Queens etc.
I probably would have got my butt to a voting booth for DeSantis, not that he’s anything that special, but maybe enough to get me to vote, if my county looked close or something.
Especially let’s hope for concrete assistance and “good news” from those smart set dudes and dudettes who have proclaimed their superiority as manifested by their not “playing the [election] game.”
/s/.
Oh so you’re gonna play the liberals’ IDIOTIC game of accusing non-voters of losing the elections you wanted to win?
So beyond stupid.
You don’t know which way an non-voters would have voted.
“Oh so you’re gonna play the liberals’ IDIOTIC game of accusing non-voters of losing the elections you wanted to win? ”
Huh?
You are off the rails, MQ.
Fevered.
It will be interesting to see what margin of vote returns Hochul to Albany.
I’m off the rails?
Your campaign to shame non-voters is ridiculous.
More MQ patented label-flinging.
Was that mostly Cubanos? Or other Hispanic groups too?
Cubans are known for their Conservatism, but at the same time, Miami Dade has long been a Democratic stronghold.
Yuli Gurriel and Yordan Alvarez are Cuban. YEAH, Astros man!
Congratulations.
Today my Moscow friend (the financial analyst) wrote the following:
“Congratulation for your voting and for your choice! I am sure that very many people in the deep-Blue state will make the same choice. It makes sense anyway.
You are right that Klaus Schwab is a weirdo, and I would add: a half-crazy weirdo. Unfortunately, Soros, Gates and others are powerful weirdos, who know what they want and who are able to spoil life for millions or even billions of people.
“Dmitry Orlov’s article [[[at the Saker blog]] is very well written and makes the very essential points.
“He is right that the key goal of the extremist group that took power is the drastic world population reduction.
“Their other key goal is to take power over the world. This is a powerful sect of neocons-Straussians (former Trotskyists), whose members infiltrated into all branches of power in the US since the 1980s.
“Creation of managed chaos, which they call “creative destruction”, is their strategy and the US is their main instrument, in a sense, similar to the Ukraine.”
++++++++++++
He sent two links, both excellent stories that which elaborate on the agenda and identities of Dark/Deep State actors.
httpXX://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/11/who_has_really_been_running_our_country.html
This from James Corbett:
httpXX://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/globalists-have-engineered-a-financial-collapse-to-pave-the-way-for-a-new-economic-world-order/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa
+++++++++++++++++++
The following is a great overview of the travesty that is the Oster plea bargain, and has three excellent embedded videos, including a quietly furious takedown by Del Bigtree:
httpX://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/11/08/covid-tyranny-amnesty.aspx?
C’mon Islander…American Thinker, which is an oxymoron and a ridiculous website that looks to be designed by maybe a middle schooler. The article you cite blames…..drumroll please…..Soros! GMAFB.
Verses what?
Not every website needs to be glammed up and slow loading.
I bet its run on a linux server and serves up the web page quick.
Meanwhile you throw shade on a site but never reveal where you get your stellar news and views from.
Typical all mouth and nothing else.
Sorry seeing the truth runs contrary to what you are used to being served up, but it shows in every response you give here.
@Islander Thanks for posting. Clear articles that inform are what is needed.
There doesn’t appear to be any red wave. Probably a big part of the reason is, it doesn’t really matter who votes, when anyone can change the results like you’d change a spreadsheet in Excel.
So – as Stalin so famously said: “It doesn’t matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes.”
And the conservatives had 2 years to figure out how the last one was stolen and not repeat it but it doesn’t appear they did it, maybe they didn’t really want to.
This is why many of us claim it’s one big uniparty, with a big circus clown show for the masses.
I personally know that most of my once-liberal, Dem or Green Party friends all voted Republican, so there should have been a major switch. It’s not just my friends, but people I’ve run across in all sorts of different venues for the past 2 years. None of them will vote Dem.
So if the Dems win again, well, we just know something was probably up. Sadly, now they’ve managed to make voting so complicated it’s quite easy to fix the results.
Depression before acceptance? Look, I’ll try once more: government is by its very definition force projection. labels dont matter; rather it’s the physical manifestation itself
Until quite recently it was a universally acknowledged truth that the strongest, most cunning warriors ruled. If you weren’t in the club, you lived out your life serving at the pleasure of others
For whatever reasons (energy conservation?), democracy emerged as an alternative technique as it was thought to be more effective than brute force
But an important element of this form was early stage brainwashing to craft the necessary acceptance and obedience that is for all intents and purposes identical to religious faith
Now, regardless of the particular form of ‘force projection’ (government), players in the game must contend with threats from both domestic and foreign rivals
In addition there are the classic external factors such as resource wealth, natural disasters, famine, disease, refugee flows. etc that pose potentional risks to continued power
What I keep saying is that you can monitor and evaluate these respective challenges from an objective POV without yourself becoming unnecessarily engaged, involved or otherwise encumbered
It’s actually quite easy – trivial really – to consistently and accurately predict outcomes if you would just shed deeply programmed beliefs; in essence, just walk away.
Hmmmm. Since I don’t vote, and I have stated many times I don’t like either party, I wonder what you are referring to, re: depression?
I don’t really care who wins. The system is collapsing regardless.
I thought you voted R up and down the ticket? You’re an odd one.
I have mentioned many times that I don’t vote. Your reading comprehension is poor, at best.
@mq
Neither does sewerat he is after all not an AMERICAN instead he is an interloper on America politics and conversations about such.
His context is whatever shitty media spokeshole tells him for the day.
If they say Biden is great that is what he repeats ad nauseum.
Orangeman baAAAaaaad well then, I guess by golly Trump is bad.
Since all he really knows is Socialism then Americans who don’t want to be owned by the state must be ignorant rubes.
I mean the government is loving and only wants the best for you! They after all know better and so does carghoul, kbird and of course the ever-loving rednut lunatic.
How dare they want their ancient Constitution, guns, bibles, low energy prices and God forbid evil steaks!
Perish the thought own nothing, eat bugs, and vote DEMOCRAT FOR MOTHER EARTH!!!
Be sure to let them turn your children into whatever they see fit. As a parent you don’t even have the right to have a say in what your kids are taught in school and if you show up to demand a voice, they send the FBI to your door for daring to speak up.
It after all takes a village to raise a child from a possibly function man into a bizarre hopeless creature eating hormone pills and being surgically altered for the rest of their short miserable lives.
Love is love you know no better phrase has been coined for the perverts of the world to have their way with our children and grandchildren.
So, vote for sniffy the clown he loves pawing at little girls and sniffing their hair.
Listen to lil Billy now that they made #metoo sit down and shut up.
Listen to the likes of Obama and Hillary they care about you just listen to those soothing voices go back to sleep.
IOW, I’m observing & reporting. As per usual.
“Until quite recently it was a universally acknowledged truth that the strongest, most cunning warriors ruled. If you weren’t in the club, you lived out your life serving at the pleasure of others.”
If you are a bunch of guys, all painted up and ready for adventure on the warpath, you looked for a leader among you. You were getting ready to invade the territory of another tribe/nation, And maybe attack them and steal their stuff. And they figure you are up to no good and they wanna kill you. What you are looking for in your group, and hoped you had – is a good warlord. Yeah, the great warriors like Charlemagne or Frederick Barbarossa ruled, they were asked to and their men followed them willingly.
“For whatever reasons (energy conservation?), democracy emerged as an alternative technique as it was thought to be more effective than brute force.”
The concept of democracy (or republics) reared its ugly head for sure in Europe after the Jacobins overthrew the French aristocrats and spread the fever of revolution and the overthrow of the established order everywhere. And these new so-called democracies or republics used force to establish themselves and brute force to keep themselves going. We call ourselves a democracy in the USA, but after our great civil war we became a union held together by military force. We are together not because we like each other but because the last time a bunch of states tried secession they were all forced back in at gunpoint and great loss of life. One big happy union eh? So what could we expect to happen to any state daring to secede? Sanctions to start with! Some democracy we have here, what a success! Not.
“But an important element of this form was early stage brainwashing to craft the necessary acceptance and obedience that is for all intents and purposes identical to religious faith”
Let’s talk about brainwashing. In elementary school I had no choice but to stand each morning at my assigned desk and say the Pledge Allegiance to the flag. I was told over and over that we had “liberty and justice for all”. I hated school with a passion because I’d already tasted freedom and I knew for damn sure it didn’t consist of being confined to the same room five days for what seemed an eternity until weekend rolled around. My life was ruled by some crabby and boring old biddys who were often in a foul mood. They ruined my evenings by requiring useless homework. They could also hit you when they felt like it. I was told over and over we were free and that there was justice here. Yet I was incarcerated in schools year after year against my will and if I didn’t go – well – then men with guns would arrive at my parents door and force me to go and maybe put them in jail.
Well, fuck that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is NOT freedom. Stop lying to and gaslighting our children everybody! Ahhh. Feels good to rant about this subject! School’s out foreverrrrrr!
Take your meds and go to bed.
Follow your own advice soon to be banned again and for what the fifth sixth or seventh time?
Yes, well the Nazis were counter-revolutionaries who overthrew the Jacobin, Weimer.
Not Christian of course, but are there really only two sides, Christian or Communist Satanist? Sometimes you talk like that, but you really don’t believe it, what with your Hippy hedonism and all. Or your “the Pilgrims came here to become Indians” nonsense.
what was the name of that collage?
Wrong. No election was stolen.
Sure, toots.
Remind us, what was discovered in AZ??
Your ass?
Depends on the time of year.
If a tree falls over in the woods and no one see it or hears does that mean it did not fall over?
If a person is not convicted of a crime because they were not caught does that mean they did not do it?
You appear to be a really simple person and way to invested in Democrat talking points for someone on the other side of the planet.
Give it a rest already.
Voting is complicated? Have you heard of the ISL theory(bullshit)?
Maryqanon,
This comment of yours has got to be one of the dumbest ones of all time, I can’t stop laughing. The United States has a population of over 330 MILLION PEOPLE, but, Marys friends who “were once liberal, dem or green party all voted Republican, so there should have been a major switch” “So if the Dems win again, well, we just know something was probably up, etc, blah blah blah”
I mean, If all of Mary’s friends voted Republican, and the Dems win, by golly it must be rigged!! Cause Mary knows f-ing everyone LOL. What an ignorant comment…wow, just wow
It’s called an indication.
I also saw it reflected across social media and even locally on NextDoor.
But think as you will, shitbird.
My observation has been similar.
Among my acquaintances, the shift has been only rightwards; Democrats registering as Republicans, liberals realizing that they are actually more conservative than they thought.
No changes in the other direction, although some on the far left have slid a little further left and started gobbling down – and vomiting up – the BLM LGTBQ hysteria that had not previously been a topic of interest to them.
Increasing polarization. Increased separation between the awake and the woke.
Ha, I didn’t realize “awake” was a thing. For a while now I have been answering “I’m awake” whenever someone asked any version of “how” things were going because I’m just glad to wake up in the morning. Its ambiguous enough to start a conversation with almost anyone except someone that is actually in a hurry.
I have seen the same. Many former liberals turning in disgust from Work politics and cancel culture, but no movement the other way.
It would be hard to picture a conservative deciding to give up their long held beliefs so that they can vote to mutilate children.
Ha, ha, not “work’ politics. What a typo!
Woke politics.
Imagine how badit would have been if al your & MaryQuaint’s friends hadn’t all flipped to MAGAtry?
Oh…sorry. Of course. Mary & you have just here and right now presentedprima facie evidence of yet another rigged election, right? This is possibly even better evidence than even Guiliani had imagineered up…
It’s an ‘indication’ all right….lol
say claim near 400 million.
If you were born pre 1970, USA was united and had 170 million?
and blacks were 13 million.
Supposedly it’s because Milennials and Zoomers turned out to vote for Demicrats in the belief doing so will enable them to slaughter their unborn children, just as the Roe decision let Granny and Mommy kill off whatever kids were inconvenient. Not sure I buy the argument, but whatever. America as we knew it is dead, and it will never come back. And Trump is running around avoiding responsibility for any electoral reverses the Republicans suffer while threatening DeSantis. Some tough guy, that Trump. Asshole.
I said so after the Supreme Court abortion ruling this past spring/summer that total abortion ban states would spur Democratic voter turnout and it did. Do the national level compromise of 1st 15-week legal abortion or 2024 will be worse. You people will never prove whatever half valid voter fraud conspiracies that will be floating around in the coming weeks. Exactly where are Evangelicals and Catholics going to go in 2024 with a compromise abortion plan. Republicans can always run against leftist crazies and crime and keep their core base.
Can they the crime keeps getting worse and so does the economy?
While the shrill screams of kill FF echo through the air with no actual viable replacement anywhere on the horizon.
It really is about the economy stupid not sure what fools can’t see everywhere Democrats gain all the levers of power it only gets worse.
There does appear to be a few glimmers of intelligent life amongst these comments but ya know, it quickly goes off the rails.
There is some delicious irony in JHK’s desperate posts over the last few years. If you’ve followed him long enough, you know he likes to criticize our built environment and labels America as a place ‘not worth caring about.’ As a planner myself, I completely agree. And yet, JHK wants to put in power a party so insane that they would make America even worse…a place even more cruel and ugly with unqualified clowns at the helm of a sinking ship. It would be like idiocracy on steroids.
And I love how he manages to sneak in one more John Durham reference.
Yawn.
“There does appear to be a few glimmers of intelligent life amongst these comments but ya know, it quickly goes off the rails.”
Without getting into theories about why that is so, I don’t know of another website where comments turn into conversations the way they do here. I can’t get upset about things going off the rails the way I used to. The internet has turned into an intellectual ghost town. At least this place is quasi-sentient. Some people here have some bent opinions and beliefs (not the same as mine,) but at least they have opinions and beliefs Thank dog spelled backwards for that. Some even with a few opinions of their own.
Most of the internet is flyover country. Opinions seems to be rare. Original opinions even more so. That, or people are too chickenshit to take a stand.
Life is too short to be chickenshit.
And yet, JHK wants to put in power a party so insane that they would make America even worse…a place even more cruel and ugly with unqualified clowns at the helm of a sinking ship.
As an outside observer, this succinctly describes the incumbents. I’m slowly coming to the realisation that neither side of the political spectrum is going to save anyone. They don’t have the answers.
Sorry man one side is not right in the head and lacks common sense.
Republicans are bad but the Democrats appear not even human at times.
They are utterly alien in beliefs and habits.
Well, I am on your side, and agree, but roughly 50% of the population isn’t. It’s a similar quandary in the UK.
Television says it, rr believes it, and that settles it! Nothing more to discuss here.
@ riverrunner:
I suppose nowadays (from the “woke” point of view) you’d have to be crazy to easily discern men from women, deny that men can get pregnant, look upon an astronomical national debt with disfavor, prefer sound money, oppose senseless wars, oppose killing babies, oppose the flood of illegal immigrants, oppose drug cartels bringing fuckloads of fentanyl into our country, oppose urban crime and violence and looting, oppose tens of thousands of homeless mentally ill and drug addicted people living in our cities and shitting on the streets and sidewalks, oppose our failed educational system, oppose the sexual mutilation of children, oppose lockdowns and forced deadly vaccinations, and oppose drag queens reading to our kids and teachers presenting explicitly sexual material to children and encouraging them to think they can decide whether to be a boy or a girl–or a bunny rabbit.
Quite a ‘list of songs’, Anthea. How about a list of fixes? What? Vote Trumplican? Don’t make me laugh…
As to your list of songs, specifically, I notice that you ”oppose” everything. That’s quite a load of pent-up anger you’re carrying around. I suggest you look at the world and create a new list for yourself – of all the things you LIKE or support…just for balance.
To my pal Redneck Liberal,
I have a much better idea why not discuss her list and tell us which one of her don’t supports you do support.
How about a little honesty from you for once.
Also give us some insights into your towering intellect as to why you would support something that on its face value appears to be so damaging and or destructive to sane healthy people and countries.
Come on buddy give us a blow by blow list.
No nothing crickets?
My what a surprise.
Your cowardice is very much on display.
@ Redneck Liberal:
So opposition to murder, mutilation of children, the destruction of health, addiction to opiods, homelessness, mental illness, street shitting, etc., is somehow a negative, in your mind?
One favors (duh) NOT killing people, NOT mutilating children, NOT
@ Redneck Liberal:
(I touched some combination of keys that caused the above to post before I was done.)
Long story short, when we are against murder and all the other things that are destructive of human life and health and well-being, this pretty much infers that we are in favor of the reverse: life and health and human well-being.
Liberalism, in view of the policies and conditions they favor, is a death cult, it’s every policy intended to inflict harm: death, debility, mutilation, addiction, mental illness, tyranny, street shitting, poverty, and homelessness.
Conservatives favor life and health, individual freedom, freedom from fear of crime and violence, an honest economic and monetary system favorable to ordinary people and one that does not deprive them of an honest and decent and dignified life and livelihood.
It is difficult for conservatives to understand how anyone could favor the ruin of their fellow man. The malignancy of this is incomprehensible to us.
@ Redneck Liberal:
I think you owe us an explanation for your decision to embrace this ruin and for the malignancy of your heart and mind.
One more time, slowly, so that redneck can understand.
Anthea’s list of horrors that the ruling class has inflicted on this country are all new developments.
Many people are opposed to these atrocities.
That is why so many former Dems and liberals have turned away in disgust from the Democrat party that pushes and supports these atrocities.
That is why it only goes one way. No normal person would be attracted to such developments.
That is why we all know people who have left the Democrats, which you reject and call anecdotal, so Anthea explained to you and you profess an inability to understand.
That is why you still support the Democrats. You are unable to understand English, you are unable to see what is happening to this country, you are unable to change your views when circumstances change.
We are on a steep slope downwards and the rest of us want to put on the brakes, but you are insisting that everything is fine and you don’t see any hill.
Riverrunner and MQ goin’ at it…gotta love it.
Meanwhile, Ron DUHSantis (or as Donnie would say, Ron Desanctimonius) apparently doin ok in FL). Should be interesting when the mentor and mentee battle it out for the presidential endorsement in 2024.
Deathsantis says my brother in Florida.
@ K-Chien:
Sorry to hear about your brother–but there are suitable placements for such people. Perhaps he could join you in the group home.
Ouch.
I have to admit I spit my coffee out.
GOP leaders won’t let the Grim Reaper deter their endless culture war to rally their radicalized base and take back political power in 2022.
Don’t insult me by thinking I am a member of the blue team.
Or think I am woke if I choose to describe my politics as non-binary.
It does not matter which of the two American brain dead money worshiping parties presides over the collapse of America. Collapse is collapse.
I’m with you there.
Anthea, If I wind up in a group home I will do what one of my ancestors did when he checked himself into a home a hundred years ago.
He got bored and escaped to made three million dollars in business. He had made seven million before he had gone into the home in the first place and had given his first fortune away. After his escape he lived to be 103.
Once ‘Grandpa Eastman’ owned all the chicken farms in New Hampshire. As a child I visited the last farm that was still in the family name. There I rode in the back of a pickup truck and helped dump a stream of corn off the tailgate. The memory of a cloud of chickens running in from the side of the road will always be with me. If I wind up in a home the memory will inspire me to get out.
Grandpa Eastman paid my Grandmothers college tuition in the 1920’s. Women with college degrees were not so common then.
@ K-Chien:
So you’re saying that you’re still at large?
Reporting from Puerto Vallarta
Observations
The US electorate does not change by more than one or two percent. That makes a wide swing in Florida. Hide bound public domains have remained the same.
Please bury Stacey and Beto!
Balkanization is closer now than ever. The Red Wave was needed to close the philosophical gap between Red and Blue, it did not happen. The cities and Black women went Blue, men, whites women and rural areas went Red. That in itself says a lot. How can this split coexist?
The lack of a Red Wave means that nothing will change. The hope of this blog has fallen flat. It is a head scratcher how to a large degree the creators of the economic disaster coming in 2023 have maintained their power base.
I hate this. Trump must retire from the scene. His denigration by the press and gullible followers of the press probably stalled the Red wave. He has met his match with the media and the gullible people that follow it. Elon, hurry up! Trump has a role to play as advisor.
Demographics are separating the country. Arizona is a good example. Red and Blue split the state with MaricopaCounty, Phoenix the decider. The split, you guessed it, the Latinos of the South the Blue part. With all the coverage of the border problems and what it is doing to the Latinos already here, you would think? A big concentration of Red is the Redoubt states, Idaho, Montana, East Oregon, East Washington State, Wyoming, Utah and newbies, the Dakotas. I would expect the Deep State to make moves to break up an emerging Red coilition. This does look serious.
Well Texas looks about the same, other than destroying what was left of Beto. He is such a poster boy for the hide bound Left. Like Arizona, Texas is split, with Blue along the border. Much more moderate though.
Between the lines, the Reds made major inroads into Blue power. Blacks and Latinos went more for Reds, suburban women also. A great mystery here is why after so many bogus elections and being ignored by the Dems, Black women continue to vote heavily Blue. Is it abortion? Do they not realize that Planned Parenthood has made them subjects of eugenics for decades? Do they not realize that they are the key to pulling the Black morass out of the gutter? They must stop relying on the federal government to make things better for them, which it never will.
My own state has shocked me overnight.
Maricopa County has gone heavily Blue, by 10% across the board on all offices. If the rural areas cannot cancel out Maricopa County, watch out! Arizona turns hard Blue and one of the biggest Trumpers bites the dust.
Last, my former state, Colorado. Disgusting! Looks like magic mushrooms may befuddle more of the Rocky Mountain High folks. Colorado is Blue, all the way. It shows what happens when the young, college educated, Latino, drug addled, crowd congregates. There it is all by itself. I wonder if all that brown cloud in Denver is no longer from FF, but from marijuana.
The segregation of America continues.
It does seem very odd that every place the voting machines had issues went blue and at times heavily blue.
I am actually really glad one race went to the Democrats.
I salute Fetterman for being a truly repulsive candidate and magically pulling the win from an equally disturbing OZ but for very different reasons.
Mr. OZ please do not ever run for public office as a Republican again.
I think the general blue zombie wave has plenty more behind it than voting irregularities. It’s hard enough trying to fend off red-leaning zombies. It’s an unstoppable zombification of everything, not just election tinkering.
Oz is the reason they lost it. Guy could not look like more of a grifter if he tried.
Florida is looking good though. Although I don’t entirely trust him, if one looks only at actions and not words, DeSantis looks like he could potentially be the real deal.
Not sure what is to be gained with Trump at this point. He did well to wake the cud-chewers to media corruption, and he was successful on the international stage, but not convinced he would accomplish much of anything — unless he is somehow willing to take it to the Trilateral/OSF/deep state combine in a way no other politician has.
Yeah, the grifter vs the drifter. The drifter wins. Ho-hum… This will be great for comedy though. Another Bozo joins the Clown Car Collective, rearing his ugly (literally) head above the swamp waters to snort & wallow in mock outrage against the MAGAites. This will pay dividends to comedic expression for years to come so basically a win for the sober-minded.
Indeed!
Kari Lake is portrayed by pro Republican press as the future of the party, but she turns out to support total ban abortion and will likely lose AZ governor’s job playing up to the traditionally clueless pro-life fanatics. Whether real or perceived, you don’t take a political RIGHT away in politics in most cases and survive an election. The Republicans are lost.
Wow, stupid of Lake if that is indeed her position.
I thought she was smart . . .
I think it has been pretty well established that there is broad support for the right to abortion in the USA.
It should have been ensured by an amendment to the Constitution and not left to hang by the not very strong thread of a SCOTUS decision.
Thanks JohnAZ for the rundown.
it would be too bad if newly blue counties take down Kari Lake.
Supports my contention that the “I don’t play their game” nonsense is, actually, playing exactly “their game,” which is to control the game board. NOT realilty-based but just childish.
Obvoiusly, each of us is one atom in the gigantic molecule that is the American electorate.
But, Brownian motion!! Or something. For one reason or another these trends do emerge whereby blue gradually goes purple and vice versa.
And I bet the stastiticians and consultants go over electoral patterns with a microscope down to the precinct level. Did their darling win by 100 votes before and just 50 now? That is a signal.
Even given the general “sameness” of the two parties, the greater the lead one has, the greater the wiggle room to start to change course—possibly even tack—on some issues. Maybe only the biggest issues, like continuing to fund the Ukr war. Or start investigations. Something is better than nothing.
I think the “voting doesn’t matter” argument is actually demolished by the reality that we have seen our two main parties basically change places in terms of their belief systems, and the far-reaching effects that has had in the states where, say, blue power has been unchallenged.
Yet the Republicans have yet to articulate a clear response to this sea change and use it as a basis to attract voters AWAY from the blue swamp. Before a state can become a swing state, there has to be a lot of flipping down-ticket that affect the state’s primary color.
Hmmm,
Re “Yet the Republicans have yet to articulate a clear response to this sea change and use it as a basis to attract voters AWAY from the blue swamp”
That is basically the take of Jacob Dreizin, although he expresses it far more colorfully!
httpXX://thedreizinreport.com/2022/11/09/why-gop-lost/
The eugenics thing is blacker than night dark. You pose a very valid question. They really and truly don’t know. And the witches should have all been burnt. It is fucking beyond ridiculous to think a butttap warrants a soul crushing eugenics. They racist bitch gave me that, not the ignorant and inexperienced. But the glorious misnomer of a pyramid will burn once to never been seen again and Jesus will say to them I did not know you.
Montana was shown on the map as purple last I looked. Huge number of Democrat invaders I assume and a small population to begin with. So sad.
The current update for AZ Governorship makes interesting reading – exit poll:
cbsnews.com/midterms/2022/arizona/governor/exit-poll/
Funny, though…there don’t seem to be many black voters in AZ?
Anyway, it’s amusing to watch as Mz. Lake struggles on, while the reprehensible Mark Finchem looks to be about to drown. Good job, too.
“Trump must retire from the scene. His denigration by the press and gullible followers of the press probably stalled the Red wave. He has met his match with the media and the gullible people that follow it. Elon, hurry up! Trump has a role to play as advisor.‘
JohnAZ – that’s so extremely contradictory, can you not see?
In any case, if Elon is actually looking to crash & burn Twitter, he couldn’t do any better than taking on Trump as ‘an adviser’, and didn’t you just express the opposite sentiment…”he has met his match with the media…”?
Trump is blaming his wife for his endorsing Oz in the primary. I dont know about Mrs. Trump, but my wife would very openly tell everyone that I’m full of shit were I to try that. Again, what a strong man, hiding behind his wife. He served a purpose and was entertaining for awhile, but is a UUUUUUUGGEE problem now and going forward. Sadly, millions of Americans are so enamored of his tough guy schtick that they won’t consider any candidate neither named nor endorsed by Donald Trump, while tens of millions hear his name or his voice and run balls-out to stop him and his picked candidates.
Thanks for the post, John.
I’m a bit more positive about yesterday.
Maloney in NY is gone. New York state generally voted more republican, which has been an aberration.
Vance won big in Ohio, which I’d argue was an upset.
Both O’Rourke and Abrams lost.
Lake has a very good chance of still winning the Governorship. I’m not sure about Masters. Possibly.
The Hispanic vote has been a big shocker. Both areas in Florida and Texas like Miami, shifted towards the Right. At the least, the democratic grip on the Hispanic population has greatly slipped.
Well, everyone I voted for lost, or will lose, par for the general course here in the northern midwest.
MN city-dwellers (Mpls/St. Paul/Duluth) be like, “Well, that guy sure has sucked for the last four…but I’m doing just fine, so I guess I should vote for him again so my neighbors still like me, and, well, it’s the MN nice thing to do to give him another chance.” Everyone else in the rest of the state said, “Screw those guys.” Doesn’t matter.
Always seems to be about 0.5%. Just enough to claim it was close, but not close enough to re-tally.
And re-tallying would mean nothing anyway, as the voting machines used are essentially Xerox machines that only show you the number of votes go up by 1 when you feed your ballot into the ether.
Used to at least get a paper receipt from the machines that showed your actual votes. No more. Just ticks on the screen from 384 to 385 and you say, “Erright then. I suppose my votes will count.”
People are stupid. We have destroyed the simplest of important systems, which was of course always susceptible to fraud in creative ways…but at least we had local Ruth, Mabel and Rose to triple-count and certify the vote count with their names signed on the dotted line. Now we have a freaking Hewlett Packard scanner with the 10 dollar programming feat of changing a count number on a screen. We’ve allowed it to become as fake as it can be.
I can only presume all of the races of any consequence were decided weeks or months ago…the numbers are just for show.
Anyway, fuck Keith Ellison. (not decided officially yet, 0.5% and all that, but you know he’ll win, cuz MN)
Mornin’, folks!
Yep!
Went and voted yesterday and was surprised by how many people were choosing to vote in person.
One lady spoke zero English and it was her first time to vote at least in the United States as she had just registered.
The translator congratulated her on voting for the first time.
She had to be in her later thirties was the process at work or being worked?
More power to her, but I’m going to go ahead and guess that she didn’t do much research (how could she? But hey, she deserves a vote!). But it must’ve been gratifying to slide that ballot into the gaping maw of the mystery machine and put a sticker on her vest for the rest of the day.
She deserves a vote?
Say what?
She spoke no English, she could not pass a citizenship test, she was not a US citizen.
Right? California? Yes, hi Benr, did she have documents from a document mill in LA?
AND how many millions are right behind her?
I suspect it was a Moter voter id and nothing more.
Great post, Mango
Well, I hope everyone enjoyed the full display of party, state and media power. Pre “democracy”, it would have been nobility, state and church. Note the state is constant, as Jesus himself referenced in giving Caesar his due.
But the thing is, even though the structure remains fundamentally unchanged (Marx labeled it ‘class’, but it’s really just predator & prey), governments, societies, cultures and people are in a constant state of flux as they come and go.
Now why is that? Simple, just as the lion & zebra relationship is as old as time itself, we are not free from the influence of environmental factors far outside our control. In fact, like all life forms we are absolutely slaves to resource constraints and other natural limits, changes and events.
So once more I appeal to jim: just walk away. The real game is the one plainly influencing the entire global narrative. Why appeal to the mob in the cheap seats with crappy political points when a more intelligent, insightful and deterministic conversation is right there for the offing?
Why are you attempting to steer the man on what he writes about?
Are you pretending to be his muse?
I believe Mr. Kunstler is a free spirit and will write about what makes his creative juices flow in spite of your direction.
Mitch doesn’t like people talking about his globalist friends and drawing attention to their actions.
Much better is to focus blog chatter on topics of little to no impact on the state of the world.
Owl, I wanted to ask about the stock of firewood you mentioned upstream. It it hard to get in Germany? Do you order it by the cord? Go out and cut it yourself? I understood that forests & woodlands, and even trees on your own property, is highly protected in Germany. Also, what about air pollution regulations and all that?
Unfortunately one cannot gather wood on public land. I did cut down a few trees in the garden last year, but that would not have lasted long.
I got the big haul from a neighbor who heads up the greenskeeping unit at a golf course. They had a lot of downed trees this year due to storms.
Paid about EUR 250 for 5 cubic meters, saving some EUR 2,500 vs. the open market.
It pays to have good relationships with neighbors in more ways than one.
Thanks Owl. That answered my question.
FYI, right now I’m drinking a Teisnacher 1543 MDXLIIII Festmarzen Traditionelle Brauknust. That’s what the can sez antway.
“Paid about EUR 250 for 5 cubic meters,”
Man. that’s about $180 a cord. Even around here in NE with hardwood, (oak and maple) coming out of our ears we’re paying $250-$300 a cord. That’s the delivered price.
And what is this conversation exactly?
cliche sink 🙂
I like the idea of a nice vacation though 🙂
B’oh
Did you realize that one day last week was national cliche day? Really.
No. I didn’t. But somebody did. So technically I’m in. It’s our crux of dialectics, if I may be so told. Where to begin. Where to end. (gotta go see Bragman)
**bold
The Deep State’s really got this covered, from “fact checkers” to warning people not to believe other sources when it comes to election outcomes.
And people wonder why I don’t vote.
https://twitter.com/i/events/1568025201828192256
They’ve got an impressive election stealing system set up and peoples’ votes don’t mean squat.
Yes. Just like in 2020 they covered it up when Joe’s little ‘Freudian slip’ went viral.
Inbred overpopulation-pushing, climate- and Covid-hoaxing WEF stooge “King” Charles is pelted with eggs in public.
https://t.me/VanessaBeeley/10552
You love to see it.
The people will choose life.
I got to hand it to Charles he was very cool as to what was going on or so clueless, he did not understand it.
It would have been a shame to run a nice suit like that with nasty egg.
Looks like the eggs were just coming from one person. A kid. (Okay a teen or a very young adult. A kid to me)
And this kid’s life is now off on the wrong foot. It is a serious offense in Britain to assault a Royal, much less the seated Monarch. Last month the cops were hauling off people who just had signs that said, “Not My King”.
Hope the kid had fun. Because he ain’t having fun now. And wont for a long, long time.
Hey redneck hold your breath so you too can be a carbon sink!
You probably don’t realize that holding your breath (occasionally) is good for you, increasing CO2 in your tissues and cells, and making you healthier.
I’d rather encourage RL to keep breathing through his mouth.
Sometimes we just need to take a moment and look at the scenery.
instagram.com/p/ChsGO4eL2EN/
Here is to the wish I was there.
Add the h.t.t.p.s to the front.
Yes, this is so true. What a beautiful place!
Hey, where did that guy find all of that empty space? And he made a fire!
Chinese-made drone no doubt documenting the offense and reporting it to the cult.
Is that carbon sink in the fire actually an Ent of old?
🙂
China is welding people into their homes again.
They have the aerosol machines spraying something and people running around in Tyvek suits again.
Folks bad shit is coming….again.
msn.com/en-us/news/world/daughter-welded-into-home-ignored-as-mom-jumps-to-her-death-in-china/ss-AA13Taun?ocid=anaheim-ntp-feeds&cvid=dca79590c9f248dab19d5226b4363c8d#image=2
I can trust nothing out of China.
The question on my mind this morning. Is Fetterman mentally impaired enough to be the Democrats’ next candidate for President?
Or will they nominate someone in a bona fide coma?
I’ll guess Fetterman, then coma.
Then a dead man. Actually, the voters already did that in Missouri some years back.
Also I want to see all the “woke pundits” revile and denounce Pennsylvania voters for rejecting a Muslim American candidate. Those extremist racists, how dare they!
Risk of a second stroke within a year is high.
Obviously “wite” is a typo. – MQ
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Of course “wite” is a typo. My point is: why don’t commenters proof read their shit before they submit it? And Jarek is one of the worst offenders. He simply does not give a shit.
YOU screw up plenty yourself. That was my other point, which you seem to have conveniently ignored.
Plus, JHK – the host – told you to knock it off.
Mary, the frustrated bureaucratic drone on an impotent power trip. She would’ve been a perfect Gulag guard.
Have you filed your report to The Leader yet?
Shut up, drunk. 🙂
I care deeply. I long for an edit button. I simply can’t slow down when posting.
Q Shtick, I love your grammar knuckle-raps, never stop…
also, the word the other day was “incomprehensibly,” not “incomprehensively”..
It’s hard for me to proofread before posting, but I’m getting a little better here; still sloppy other places.
Any lingering hope I may have had that the US can forge a more reasonable path into the future has been dashed. As usual, JHK is correct, and so is Mary. The results validate my opinion that voting is a waste of time.
My only other comment is a word to the wise: Prep your ass off.
OK, I’ll bite; when was the US on a more “reasonable path”?
During manifest destiny, the mexican, Civil and/or spanish wars, or how about post ww1 when butler outed the corporate protection racket?
Or, how about viet nam, gulf wars 1& 2, kosovo, mena, et al, or the continued pursuit of the wolfowitz doctrine that has led to ukraine?
Now, please don’t assume I’m complaining. There are plenty of anti war, socialist do-gooder sites seething with longings for revenge.
No, what I’m suggesting is take that vacation youve always wanted, buy the expensive off shore yacht/RV youve been lusting after, move to a nicer location, etc
basically enjoy yourself by simply by using you iq, knowledge and experience to game play the system. It follows an incredibly basic rote process that only requires a realistic appraisal of human nature.
For anyone with resources, a much wiser purchase would be productive local farmland. Before long your yacht/rv will be parked due to lack of fuel to operate it. Another purchase might be a sailboat you can live on and use mostly wind power to run it. There’s not going to be any system in our future to “play” as you put it. Your move to another location will be determined by how much food you can grow there or how much land you can lease out to run a small local farm. That will be our future. Those rv’s and yachts, along with a lot of America’s suburbia – are all heading for the scrapyard or sold overseas after the banks repossess all that stuff and can’t find any buyers here.
Your spiel sounds very much to me like an Amway promoter. Promising riches for all if we just go out and show the plan!
Woodchuck,
Far be it for me to appear to support mitch’s ideas, such as he lays them out in a rather bizarre “vision”. I don’t. But you’re misunderstanding him.
His is an extreme version of carpe diem. Acquire wealth by any means (legal, shady, or illegal if you can get away with it), live the rest of your life in a wished-for hedonistic glee (unworkable on many levels such as that is), and fuck the next generations(s).
mitch strikes me as an old man with some acquired, disposable wealth who’s excited, vicariously, by sensational destruction. Hatred of the human race. Hobnobbing with other elites who’ve been lucky enough to afford gated communities. (We already know he aspires to be a slum lord.)
When you only have 5-10 years to live, it’s an understandable (though despicable) dream.
Well then, could Mitch be here because he’s attracted to doom porn in some way? Does Mitch get excited and happy at the idea of all the other poor losers out there suffering because they didn’t possess his wisdom and knowledge as to how to game the system?
Mitch speaks of “using you iq, knowledge and experience to game play the system.” Mmm…. There are a few ways a person could get lucky through gaming the system. One way is to happen to be in a line of work that benefits from government subsidies. E.g., some people got very rich installing government-subsidized solar panels. Many people have gotten rich through real estate investments, but the payoff on these is cyclical, and you can easily lose your ass. Another way is to have insider knowledge to play the stock market or cryptocurrencies (which is illegal). So I’d say that the ability to game the system is almost entirely a matter of luck or a willingness to risk breaking the law.
I suspect that Mitch got lucky and now thinks he’s a genius.
Or it could be that Mitch is just a guy who likes to spin yarns. Sometimes these people live in a fantasy world in which they are the last of the Romanovs. I had a friend like that once. She could tell the most amazing tales. Her daughter was not really black–and not really her daughter–but a cousin’s daughter whom she had adopted. People thought she was black, but she was really her cousin’s daughter by a Middle Eastern potentate. Her Middle Eastern grandfather was constantly using his influence with the State Department to cause my friend trouble, in hopes of repatriating his granddaughter and making her live as a princess. And that’s why my friend was in trouble with Medicaid.
BTW, I’m ok with the election results. Disappointed maybe, but I’ll carry on. I think it was Rulo who said above, that life is loss. He took the words right out of my mouth – I’ve always said the same thing.
hey bill, that’s the reality for all of us. Acceptance with, if not joy, at least chin up, carry on.
Be well, man.
I often wonder if there’s a celestial accountant who balances the books of gains and losses. One question is, are gains and losses supposed to equal out? If we end up with more losses than gains, do we get another life where the pluses are greater than the minuses, and vice-versa? Now that sounds kind of like a Western version of karma.
Sometimes your loss is replaced with something better; sometimes it’s not. Life is a bit of a roller-coaster. When you get near the end of it, you begin to appreciate it just for having been one hell of a ride.
It sure has been (and still is) one hell of a ride. And yeah, life is the biggest and baddest roller-coaster of them all.
@ beantownbill:
I once rode the roller-coaster at Coney Island with some friends. I had never been on a roller-coaster before, and my sense of self-preservation is strong.
Holy shit! I was TERRIFIED! As soon as it stopped, I jumped off, exclaiming, “I’m outa here!” while my friends were all excited about going around again. (The one gay man in our group kept saying, “I wish I had some poppers!”)
I got a few steps and turned around and got back on.
Yesterday I spent some time on this blog talking about sustainable agriculture with others. Then I cruised over to YouTube, which suggested this video.
AI at work? I never watched a video about Azerbaijan before.
.youtube.com/watch?v=t89VUnSNvl0
with collapse, sustainable farms will have lead and dogs.
My you tube algorithm even uses the content of my phone conversations to discover my interests.
Just like homeland security does.
Might the newly-minted Senator Fetterneck now have presidential aspirations? One can only hope. The man is a Force of Nature. Good night, everyone!
I’m looking forward to his great speeches on the Senate floor, rivaling no doubt Daniel Webster, the Great Orator.
Nice reference. Daniel is in my family tree.
What about Deputy Dog? A distant cousin perhaps?
@ stelmosfire:
Shh! Daniel Webster lives in the same group home. Play along.
It would not surprise me if Fetterman’s stroke was caused by the third clot booster. He may not be around two years from now if he gets this fourth clot booster.
May not even need the fourth.
“The result could easily be an election the outcome of which won’t be accepted by either party, sparking an invitation to broad civil disorder.”
This sentence is an accurate assessment of how current events will play out. Give up the wish fulfillment of anyone or any party “saving” the country or bringing justice.
Did the Dems lose the House? If so, does it mean the end of the stupid Jan. 6 hearings?
It looks very much like the Republicans are still taking the House and Senate, but everything is going so slow. So tired and will be glad when this election cycle is over.
How is Kari Lake doing?
She is really well and in very good spirits. The results are great for her and i am thinking this is why they are stonewalling essentially on rolling out the election day vote tallies in Maricopa county and others. It is part of their narrative building apparatus and voter demoralization and suppression.
What a horrible and disappointing night that was. I’m glad to see so many of you here. My state is still counting for all the marbles.
The American electorate absolutely befuddles me. Do people hate Trump so much that they’ll just vote D, straight ticket? Or now that abortion is a state’s issue, are they trying to liberalize their state so it swings pro choice? Or are they all just knuckleheads?
Lots of low information zombies. We are living within a zombie apocalypse. If you are not careful, they will devour you whole.
Yes, people vote straight Dem if they have TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome). They don’t care what that Dem’s platform is, or if they are a degenerate, etc.
Yes, yes and yes.
This election proves my thesis that it the change of our demographics that has caused the permanence of the results. Socialists flooding the border, and stupid college educated children with little purpose.
America is literally turning into a Latin socialist country. Ten years from now, cross the southern border, you will not be able to tell the difference.
THAT is what the Biden Mob wants.
Tribalism. Give up on your race and nation, and have no interest in sports (the disease of traditional White men), then the default is to having a political identity a la a party.
As I’ve said before, the number one thing that nearly all liberals have in common is that they are government employees/retirees, or work in a heavily government-subsidized field. In my experience, most very poor people on welfare or disability are conservatives. (Well, unless they are black.)
As of a couple of years ago, about 20% of the working population was directly employed by some level of government. Who knows how many more are employed by government contractors. Then you have all the people whose jobs only exist because of government: lawyers, most accountants, tax preparers, etc.
If you could count them all up, my guess would be that around 50% of all employed people get their incomes either directly or indirectly from the government.
CFN’rs
Well only one ray of sunshine in what is becoming the dark winter promised;
The Oregon elections have gone…”not necessarily to our advantage”. My outrage at not winning the Powerball is slowly abating. Jarek still impugns me as a serial blasphemer. However;
https://newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/jay-maxson/2022/11/09/horrors-soviet-era-russian-gulag-becoming-griners-reality
Miz Greiner is going to the Gulag. Russians are gonna get Solschenizyn on her ass.
Small comfort, but I will take it where I can get it.
Why do you hate Griner?
She’s a psy-op meant to demonize Russia and increase public support in the US for widening the war.
She’s also a celebrity – our gods – used to having her way, and being able to break the laws of lesser countries with impunity. If you or I were arrested for the same offense, would the media be rushing to our defense?
I think laws against cannabis are ridiculous – and largely the result of years of US pressure. I think Griner’s sentence – 9 years! for less than a gram of hash oil – is ridiculous squared. But, don’t be a tool if you aren’t ready to pay the price.
It seems to me she’s paying a stiff sentence for the tiny crime of having CBD oil. I guess I don’t understand the outright hate. Did she know she was being used for public support to widening the war? Is she really “famous”? How many people watch women’s basketball?
I mean if this were a big asshole like Gates or HRC I’d be laughing my ass off.
Seems this person is just another low-level dupe who got used by the deep state.
How did she get used by the deep state if she was caught carrying a substance over the Russian border that they do not allow?
I might have been better for her to try to get some cbd oil within Russia than to actually carry it over a border. That becomes smuggling or something. Probably a different law and punishment applies to bringing contraband goods into the country than for just getting some within the country.
Ask Blackbird, that’s his claim.
You said he/she was used by the Deep State.
Mary,
She is the personification of everything I loathe in today’s broken culture.
A person enjoying high privilege that remains a victim in her own shallow mind. A person who lobbied for the National Anthem to not be played in WNBA. A person who would flaunt the laws of other countries, relying on the passport she denigrates…in effect, a person who is not a good citizen of this country, enjoying mind numbing benefits while criticizing that and those which provide her with those benefits. Her being sent to the Gulag by a foreign country is the essence of poetic justice.
She is the face of the Woke culture. I hope she die.
I hope her momma die.
…But, I say this with love….you know…a metaphor.
Jarek could further explain.
Mary,
And please do not think this racist or misogynist. Include Colin Kaepernick, and Chuck Schumer to the list.
I hope they die,
I hope they Lawyer die.
Well said both of you. The penalty is very high, but she’s not a sympathetic figure for normal people. And indeed, there may be more to the story. Did she know she was going to become a political puppet. Did she realize the risk?
Ely is a Fascist who cannot evolve to the next level, that of National Socialism.
Jarek,
Fascist. FASCIST? i don’t want to be a fascist…they are swarthy and smell of garlic.
How can I get an upgrade?
A person who lobbied for the National Anthem to not be played in WNBA.
man? he woman?
No, I don’t think it’s racist, but it seems strange to single this particular person out for such vitriol.
That is all.
@ elysianfield:
“Flout,” not “flaunt.”
Well, hers was an ostentatious display…I’ll stick with flaunt.
Breaking News:
GA Senate race headed for a Dec 6th runoff.
Out of control inflation alone should have produced a red wave. Throw in crime, economy, groomers, illegal immigration, woke, CRT and disaster aft disaster for 2 straight years and it should have been a red tsunami. Not to mention latest polls mention 75% of the population believes the country is moving in the wrong direction. Yet people still vote Dem in massive numbers????
Voting no longer matters but who counts the votes. A state by state, city by city accounting of the election would reveal massive corruption without a doubt. The radical left will cheat and steal without hesitation to maintain power. Until elections are cleaned up, democracy is now officially dead in the US. RIP, 2022.
RIP 2022? I’d say the deceased has been amoldering in its grave since at least the 2000 selection. After being shot in the head in 1861. After being targeted for extinction in 1789.
Yes, this is nothing new. Just more obvious.
No, elections are dead because the US is two completely different countries trying to live as one. Think 1860 except instead of slavery and state’s rights it is Climate change, abortion and state’s rights. The end of the UNITED States is coming soon now that the power of the electorate cannot seal the wound. Mary, you may live at the center of the start.
ELections are dead because they are fixed by the uni-party putting on a big show for you.
Notice this keeps us at each other’s throats instead of understanding that they are the ones we should be fighting.
Another aspect of our shitty election system is the boatloads of money wasted on them:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/here-s-how-many-millions-democrats-spent-failing-to-get-stacey-abrams-and-beto-o-rourke-elected/ar-AA13UYdo
Of course, even if you lose, you get $$$$.
I have to admit it is very satisfying to know that the Democrats spent massive outlays on these midterm races and drained billions out of their coffers to lose the majority even at a razors edge. Even if they keep Congress by the thinnest of margins the sound of the gurgling drain is sweet. The Lord takes away, but the Lord also gives, not all is lost
It seems pretty obvious to me that elections are just YET another way of money-laundering. Even if they lose, they win.
Sort of like the art world… and the presidency.
Beto runs for a living. Insane that anyone contributes to him.
It really is. He appears to have this in common with Stacey Abrams. Did you hear the rumor that she conceded to Brian Kemp last Friday before the election?
Hard to believe. I assume she thinks she is already the governor and a high end model in her spare time.
Why not? She appeared on the Black Star Trek as the President of Earth I believe.
Food is energy. To obtain x bushels of calories used to require x number of man and beast hours of labor. Man figured out the uses of accumulated fossil energy that had laid underground almost untapped. Then, over 200 yrs burned through most of it, especially the part that requires less energy to get, aka “low hanging fruit”. There are still large deposits of oil, gas, and coal, but harder to get technically, as well as politically, as nations and corporations draw their lines in the sand about who gets the last of the fossil bonanza. While renewables exist and are useful at a certain scale, they don’t produce enough energy in their lifetimes to offset the energy used to manufacture and distribute them. Atomic energy will no doubt be responsible for keeping some of modern technical civilization working, but not all. Not enough nuclear plants. Many aging. Most nations don’t even have one. More can be built, but each requires years and vast amounts of energy and rare mining commodities to build. The potential for massive environmental damage is high. Not just Fukushima, which means Pacific seafood has added radioactive toxicity to the already present mercury and microplastics. It’s still overfished to the point of extinction, to the tune of rich Japanese bidding seven figures for the last of the great oceanic tuna before the catch arrives at the Tokyo fish market. But anyway, not just that: there’s the slight problem of spent fuel rods that will kill any lifeform that gets close for a very long time, geological eras. How nuclear is categorized as “green” beats me. Also, coal should prob be used to soften the blow, as it’s the least scarce of the remaining fuels, I think. Wisely this time. Priorities.
So, food is energy. No energy, no food. Used to be muscle, plus manure. A gallon of diesel, x btu’s of gas, replaces them. It is the equivalent of x serfs for x days on the field. The serfs have largely been replaced by the gallons. But the gallons are getting scarcer, dearer, as they approach depletion. Ergo, we have to go back to serfs, or ideally to independent organic farms worked by free citizens. The model of high tech ag, be it intensive – towers, hydroponics, robots, sensors, actuators, cooling, computer systems, heating, pumps – or extensive – lifeless soils dependent on chem fertilizers every season, harvesters, center point pivots, Monsanto seed, glyphosate, antibiotics, 3 workers per thousand acres working in tractors w AC without ever touching the soil – requires endless cheap energy. It is the model that emerged at the top of the 200 yrs of just that. But the cheap energy’s gone, most of it. Those of us who started reading our host 20 or 30 yrs ago would summarize the core of his material in these two paragraphs, I think.
If we understand carrying capacity as “the maximum population size of a biological species that can be sustained by a specific environment, given the food, habitat, water, and other resources available” and we understand the “environment” named in the definition as “Planet Earth” then I believe we have reached Peak Population, in a delayed reaction to Peak Oil some decades ago. We’re staring at the right side of the curve, the downslope, as “the food, habitat, water, and other resources available” are ALL under intense pressure. Haitians come to Florida and harpoon dolphins because that’s how they wiped them out in their old country, and are used to eat them. Nestle plops a factory on top of a spring that churns out a billion plastic bottles w water a year, and wells go dry down the aquifer. Aeroplanes spray chemicals a couple miles down the road and my bees die. Millions of new McMansions all over my state need constant AC year round. There’s a million examples.
We’re all alive on Earth, right now, all 8 billion. So evidently the Earth can carry us as of today. Tomorrow? Hell no. Because we consume too fast, and don’t give the Earth time replenish herself. To equivocate about this is to be deliberately obtuse.
Owl, “CO2 is the enemy of the Climate Death Cult” you keep repeating. But you should listen w more attention if you’re to engage in conversation. Neither myself, nor gustafson, Anthea or others were talking about climate, as far as I know. My conversation is about resource depletion, pollution, and facing decline in a rational manner. What’s yours? It’s not rational to proclaim that throwing more technology at problems created by technology will fix them. Also please remember, tech does not equal energy. You think I’m a climate cultist (I’m not), yet you’re a tech-surveillance-finance-AI cultist, agreeing with the WEF in that. From their website:
“In precision agriculture, real-time weather forecasting helps farmers with day-to-day decisions on when and how much to irrigate, fertilize and apply pesticides to their crops. Controlled-environment agriculture promises to further reduce the impact. Some smart greenhouses are completely automated, run by algorithms that ensure optimal conditions for plant growth by adjusting inputs like roof ventilation, artificial lighting and heating.
The success of any agricultural technology ultimately rests on the rate of adoption among farmers, in particular, smallholder growers. Five of every six farms in the world are smaller than two hectares (the size of about three soccer fields) and collectively they produce a third of the world’s food. In the case of China, smallholder farmers account for as high as 80% of food production.
As a primary sector that employs millions of people directly and throughout the supply chain, agriculture has lagged behind many other sectors in digitalization and application of digital technology. Luckily, however, it is not too late to catch up, but the sector needs more investment, more new ideas and greater participation.”
There’s your hydroponic tower Dutch model. I’ll translate for you. Automation. Artificial everything. Algorithms. Small farmers, listen up: better toe the line. You’re “lagging”. Luckily, we’ll put you in touch with finance to digitalize you. So the knowledge, the ancestral, biblical human knowledge to extract bread from the soil with our sweat will be lost. We’ll hold the patents, the power, see it all on screens, ultimately decide who eats and who doesn’t.
Same as that other “conspiracy theory”, c19, right. Surely environmental collapse and “carrying capacity” are a conspiracy theory, right. Because Dutch towers. Because technology.
Give me a break, Owl. Gustafson, me, and others tried to have a conversation, but you have an attitude or I dunno what. Ultimately, I don’t care. I come here to think and share with others, to learn. I always read, sometimes chip in, all in good cheer, admit mistakes or not, but respectfully. You think you know everything and are full of lols and insults. Chill, I say.
“Your disposition will be suitable to that which you most frequently think on; for the soul is, as it were, tinged with the color and complexion of its own thoughts.” Marcus Aurelius
“If it keeps raining, the levee’s gonna break” Bob Dylan
Have a nice day y’all!
Is this a comment section, or a novel section.
TL;MCDNR
Mick,
a comment section. You’ll notice I didn’t write fiction, but a comment. If it’s too long for you, don’t read it.
I don’t think Mick read it. Thoughtful comment as always, Rulo. It’s good to see you back.
Thanks Slugoon. Good to see you. How’s the piloting? Be well!
I didn’t read it.
TL;MCDNR means….Too long, most certainly did not read.
ETA: What I meant by ‘novel section’ is in regards to the length. Fiction has nothing to do with length. Plenty of short comments are fictional.
It is a tactic for avoiding the issue. Pretty common around here.
However the comment itself was in answer to your demand for proof.
Ball’s in your court now.
So where is the proof?
Do you have it?
Define “proof” and “hard evidence”. Your own definitions that is. I think that will tell the sad tale.
You came here because you were a different man. What have you become to have these alien thoughts?
You have no proof to your claims, Night Owl. One wonders why you believe different standards apply to you than everyone else.
It’s all good, Mick. The comment is too long, I know. I was consumed by the need to say my piece. I didn’t know what the letters meant. And you’re right, comments could be fiction, just short fiction. We’ve had a couple fellas here who used to wax poetic.
We’re all a bit stressed out, no doubt. Times are strange.
Well now I’m feeling the itch to read it. But, then I’d have to also scroll up and get caught up-to-date on the ongoing debate you’re having with NO. I may not have the time for that.
Anyway, as the kiddos say these days, “It’s all good!”
Rulo, one way to make long comments more readable is to break them up into paragraphs. With topic sentences.
I read your post, but it is a slog, and your main points get buried.
I am a huge reader, but especially the larger a block of text, the harder it is to read. Actually, same goes for t hose who start a new graf with each sentence and do not group their sentences to present main ideas.
This is exacerbated (for me) when reading on-screen.
It is practically what the Germans call a Zumutung to expect readers to plow huge blocks of text with no breaks and no signposts along the way (namely, topic sentences).
My 2 c/ worth.
2¢ accepted, Islander. Yes, it’s too long but couldn’t say it less lines. Haiku is not my thing.
Why is no one bitching equally about all the entire articles C&P’d above?
At least Rulo’s comment is all his own commentary.
Riposte to Islander: Your “rule” applies to the “easy-to-read” content in news blips, magazine articles, advertisements and other such pop stuff.
Serious writing can be dense and challenging. If you believe, or even suspect, that the reward is worth the challenge then you will plow through.
I mention this in the context of my current heavy slog: Oswald Spengler’s THE DECLINE OF THE WEST, in translation. I only get through a few pages before my mental mechanism jams up.
Comments on a blog? No Chicago Style Book rules exist. If content is rich, fresh and appealing enough I say go for it.
Given all this, in my copywriting / editing / proofreading work, I do go to great lengths to expedite readability, as the text I am writing and editing is often intended for or read by non-native squeakers. I feel compassion for them. Also, I do not wish to lose them.
I thought it was an excellent comment and I thank you for sharing it. I agree with you about resource depletion and the massive die-off of so many species being a bad thing, not to be shrugged off as necessary so that 8 billion people can reproduce more.
I don’t know what the letters Mick posted mean. I know that TLDR means that a person is announcing that their attention span is so short they can’t manage to read more than a few sentences.
They probably appreciate riverrat’s drive-by insults and non sequiturs, being as they rarely use more than a few words.
I will admit that the internet has shortened my attention span also. I used to read books, but now I don’t.
I’m not bragging about it though.
Same, Paula.
I didn’t know what TLDR was, had to look it up. I tend to read most of the long comments unless they are just copies of entire articles, and then I may or may not. If they are from Jarek, I tend to skip them.
I also agree with your comment. It’s resource depletion which is doing us in, and that’s because 8 billion people can’t be sustained on limited fossil fuel, which we are about to find out.
I watch little videos from India now and again and the state that most live in there is appalling. I suppose that’s our future if we keep reproducing without being able to supply the necessary resources for people to live in relative comfort.
Mary, as usual, has done a complete 180.
A few months ago, I supported the Peak Oil narrative in a series of posts, along with Woodchuck and robert gustafson, and she called us out on it. She was also uncharacteristically silent when I let her know that our host’s entire raison d’etre for starting this blog on the heels of TLE was the reality of Peak Oil.
Now, however, she’s flipped her script, based on her insecure self-image as to who to align with to join the “winning team”.
No encompassing, surpassing vision. Just a shifting, temporal issue combatant, no different from a politician’s MO. It’s all about power alliances with her.
Keep your weathervanes clear, MQ!
Delightfully entertaining, and predictable.
She’s against everything we say because we’re not on Team Women No Matter What. Owl is and thus she remains silent when she disagrees with him.
Her core viewpoint is Women are life and Men are death. In what sense is she an American or member of Western Culture? In no real sense beyond being born here.
Go find any comment I made that said that I didn’t think overpopulation or overuse of resources is a problem.
This ought to be interesting.
You & Jarek like like rugs.
I wrote an essay in 1995 about why I wouldn’t bring children into the world.
The reason was overpopulation.
You fucking moron. LOL.
You did the right thing Mary.
I try to live lightly on the Earth, but then I went and reproduced, negating my other efforts.
And worse, one of my offspring reproduced.
If I hadn’t reproduced I could sit back now and watch the teeming masses fuck themselves into overshoot and starvation without the horrible knowledge that my own children will also starve, and I wouldn’t have this inner feeling of sadness and futility.
I’m not saying that that is your attitude, I’m saying it would be mine.
You did good.
Death cult mentality. Why not join the Extinction Rebellion?
Paula, our attention spans are under attack. Here, no tv ever, and most days self imposed no internet. Those days I really go into books, like in old times. But I agree it gets harder.
This instant information thingie has been both wonderful but damaging.
Let’s not give up books, ever!
I started making an effort to return to reading books last year, and I need to get back to it. For awhile there, I was back into it, finished a few novels and really enjoyed it. Like old times. So much better than staring at screens.
Want to read a Synopsis for a movie I wrote? I’d like your critique on it.
“[…] yet you’re a tech-surveillance-finance-AI cultist, agreeing with the WEF in that”
The mask really drops here. This is so far removed from reality (which you well know) that I applaud you pushing out such an absurd lie. In fact, it is perfect inversion.
Which leads back to what I said earlier: This level of tantrum shows that I am over target. Open the bomb-bay doors.
You cannot defend your absurd idea that we are at “carrying capacity” with any hard evidence, and it is hilarious.
What target is it that you are over?
See the final sentence. You are free to prove the claim.
I see evidence everywhere, kinda hard to avoid it.
Show us your proof.
It looks like we are at carrying capacity for our current BAU scenario.
But we have not made any serious effort to conceive of a way of life, of a “modern” economy, that doesn’t involve a huge amount of waste—of energy, of resources of all different kinds.
Also, it is never specified exactly who “we” is.
Good, Mary. We are now on the same team, Team Truth. Night Owl is on Team Darkness.
No, I’m not on your ‘team,’ Jarek.
I’m not on any teams.
No, Owl,
the thing is, you put your faith not just in survival, but survival of the current paradigm of consumerism, via the Moloch of hi tech.
It will mostly fail, the tech. Because of lack of cheap abundant energy. But a “Blade Runner” version of “protein farms” may well exist, for the compliant. And a tiny bit of steaks and Champagne for the rulers.
Tech fail bc of lack of energy is the only hope against digital money and the vax pass.
Less tech. Those alive stay alive. Marshall plan for mass conversion to small farming and home based industry in tools and bicycles. Monetary stimulus used well for once: pay people not to have many children. All voluntary. 40 acres and a mule.
Not the Dutch towers. Back to the land for most.
It won’t happen – It will start, maybe, after Nature’s way: war, famine, plague. In much worse condition. Real danger of going into techno-feudalism for our children or their children.
It’s not hilarious, friend. Focus. I’m not your enemy. Reality is.
Rulo says “…Tech fail bc of lack of energy is the only hope against digital money and the vax pass…”
This reminds me of the appalling “cashless society” campaign being drummed into 260 million Indonesians, a great number of whom live on one of the 12,000+ islands of this scattered archipelago.
Sure, we have sturdy satellites to handle business communications. There are also a couple of hundred thousand BTS sprinkled across the islands (which amazes visiting Australians, who perpetually belly-ache about poor internet or cell phone access, not to mention exorbitant fees, back home). It began in earnest in the late 1960s, when the military, which had assumed power in a counter-revolution, narrowly snatching the nation from the Partai Komunis Indonesia, third-largest Communist party in the world. The foreign advisors were whining and complaining about this country using up its scarce foreign exchange to put up satellites. But is was a successful control-and-command technique for the military dictatorship: while the nature of an archipelago favors rebels and break-away minorities, an effective media presence (both military communications and mass media) have succeeded in sealing a sense of national unity.
That worked great for 50+ years. Now, however, banks, businesses and the authorities all want to extend this to full digitalization of the economy, and we know quite well what that will lead to, when it works.
When it stops working, because countries exporting hardware and spare parts are themselves collapsing, then the “cashless society” becomes a digital nightmare. But no one here is looking in that direction or taking the themes we discuss here into account.
Very delicate and quite perilous.
Are you daft Night Owl or is magical thinking your thing?
Eight billion people is a lot of people, and far to many people for this earth to feed without fossil fuels. Modern farming depends on fossil fuels for fertilizer, pesticides, and the muscle diesel engines give. There is no replacement.
Fossil fuel base farming produces four times the crop yield animal based farming does. An Amish farmer might dispute that figure but Amish you are not.
There is not enough land to feed eight billion people using old school farming techniques that don’t use fossil fuels. Do the math on that. Or is math something else you don’t believe in?
Fossil fuels are going away, and when they do everybody you know starves to death. End of story. Climate change is accelerating the process so now we all get front row seats.
I’m sorry to be such a dickweed about this Night Owl but your statement,
“You cannot defend your absurd idea that we are at “carrying capacity” with any hard evidence, and it is hilarious.You cannot defend your absurd idea that we are at “carrying capacity” with any hard evidence, and it is hilarious.”
is indefensible. Like I said, do the math.
Thought Experiment — Imagine that there was no such thing as climate change and oil was infinite. Our present moment as some imagine things to be. Not our actual future, only the present moment with our future disregarded.
Could this imagined world of infinite resources support 32 billion people? Of course not.
This is another way to imagine what I described above when artificially supported crop yields crash as oil and gas go. From a practical view the world is four times smaller without fossil fuels.
Each person gets the same mount of food in each reality. The real one, and the one I made up that is pollution free and without limits.
Perro K,
well said. In the end, we’re History, and Nature’s, pawns, not their masters.
We’re just mammals that live around 80 yrs, eating, digesting, excreting, copulating. We’re not demigods entitled to a life of extravagant luxury compared with all recorded human history except for kings and such… and each one of us animals with a soul will live his life according to his beliefs. His soul. We cannot change them, everyone has to see the world anew, and even as we age we see the world anew with every decade, and adjust our beliefs accordingly. I get on the soapbox to say buy less, grow more, respect Nature. In 2022 America, right after an election. I’m a dumbass.
Maybe the evidence Buho stomps his foot and demands is not in anything I, or you, can say. It’s in him. Same with those who think like him. They’re not my enemy. They are entitled to live their life as they see fit. Let’s go back to Reagan! No, let’s go back to Clinton! They long for those times that won’t come back. Only made possible by then abundant cheap energy.
Show me where’s the abundant cheap energy.
“We’re not demigods entitled to a life of extravagant luxury compared with all recorded human history except for kings and such.” — Rulo
We’re actually much luckier than this.
Social historians have drawn fascinating parallels that show that, except for the small minority in the West who are mentally deranged and homeless, we live much better than do the Kings of even five centuries ago.
Yeah, they had meat, wine, and enough calories, but they lacked all the many conveniences we don’t even think twice about (let alone being grateful for). Then there’s the high tech medical and engineering advances since then, only possible via oil discovery and production. Of course, the green revolution is impossible w/o oil. (Little population increase otherwise.)
I said fifteen years ago that the wars of the 21st century would strictly be resource wars. The WEF, central bankers, and other Deep State actors, I believe, know all about Peak Oil, but they don’t care. For them, it’s grab the remaining black goo and party till you puke.
Apres moi le deluge!
Thanks for this in-depth comment, Rulo. I concur with everything you’ve said.
I don’t usually say much about population up here because it’s obvious (to me) that we’re screwed. I’ve read about overpopulation trends since the 1990s. That was a huge reason I decided not to have kids, actually.
While I’ve enjoyed Night Owl’s spirited debates with others here, and have even agreed with some of his comments in regard to this, when he got to the “there is no overpopulation” statements, he lost me.
I also don’t buy the climate change/CO2 from cow farts will kill us bullshit. Which doesn’t mean that we aren’t overpopulated. Like you, I don’t think they are the same argument.
Owl keeps demanding that you & others prove that the earth is overpopulated but it’s obvious that it is. Perhaps it should be up to Owl to prove that it isn’t, which is just as difficult to do.
I honestly don’t know how anyone can watch the depletion of species, especially insects, bee colony collapse, the plastic in the ocean, Fukushima, massive die-offs and coral reef bleaching, rainforest destruction, factory farming fiasco, horrible air pollution, depletion of top soil, etc. and maintain there are not too many people.
“Perhaps it should be up to Owl to prove that it isn’t”
This breaks the cardinal rule in debate: The burden of truth lies on the claimant.
To see you stooping to this level is most interesting.
I’m not “stooping” to anything. You, on the other hand, are attacking people with ad homs if they don’t agree with you.
I’ve done my homework and having been a naturalist for years, which includes working with people doing nature documentaries, etc. Plus living in CA and seeing first hand what humans have done to the state, there is absolutely not one shred of doubt in my mind that the mass devastation of so many areas of the planet are human-caused. And of course CA is the tip of the iceberg, big as it is. Overfishing, poisoning of air, water and food, disappearance of arable soil, etc. all are from human activity. Not sure why that doesn’t connect with you.
And, I do believe people have brought some great arguments and sent proof your way, but you just ridicule it, without being able to refute any of it.
I am asking them to prove a point that they seemingly cannot prove, and laughing each time they cannot.
Can you prove that the earth is at its carrying capacity and that the only way out is depopulation as our resident Malthusian endorsed?
A new champion steps up? Well, let’s see your proof.
I don’t know how the problem gets fixed. I wasn’t aware you were demanding that people know how to fix the problem. I was under the impression that you deny the problem exists (that the earth is not overpopulated).
Mary, it’s terrible and we’re all on edge, not just because Gaia dies before our eyes but also the endless barrage of black swans and realization that we’re getting dumber, poorer, more confused with each new attack.
And we’re not even at war yet. Well, we are. Of course we are. But you know what I mean. Decline is slow, takes hundreds of years, but lately it seems to have accelerated.
I don’t know what Owl’s target is. He doesn’t say much about all this talking about undeniable ecocide.
On the other hand, he’s very opinionated about the c19, and in fact I’ve come to see a good deal of sense in his ruminations. He’s not the only one, others refused the narrative too. But his personality somehow propelled him to wish, literally, death on the vaccinated. People are strange, I say nothing new here.
I am free to deny any claim I like.
You have not convinced me. If you have proof that we are at “carrying capacity,” show it.
This must be the 20th request.
Can you do it?
It’s up to you to prove that it can sustain 8 billion people. You are the one making that claim.
I have said my opinion is that 8 billion people is too much for available resources. That’s my opinion, I’m under no obligation to ‘prove’ an opinion. The opinion is based upon knowledge I’ve acquired and reading and studying I’ve done for over 30 years. I’ve also given myriad examples of why I believe my opinion to be true, or about as true as it can get.
If you don’t like my conclusions, that’s fine with me, I don’t really care.
“It’s up to you to prove that it can sustain 8 billion people. You are the one making that claim.”
Inventing things now, are we?
This discussion has been most illuminating.
Oh, you have not made that claim? OK then.
You made the claim that the Earth is not overpopulated, NO, so it’s up to you to prove it.
But your only argument seems to be “Well, there are 8 billion people alive now so it must be fine, and we can add a few billion more.”
When people point out that things are not actually fine, you ignore, deflect or announce that they are in cahoots with the WEF.
The original claim is that it is overpopulated.
I said I do not agree.
You must show that it is.
Well, Paula, what is the limit? How many people are too many? Are we past it yet? How long before the geometric increase gets to the number.
Also, think. What happens when Peak Oil hits?
Night Owl too.
Look at the vast areas where there are not only no people but no one living anywhere around there either.
Drive across the United States there are areas where no one lives and you don’t see anyone for hours.
Look at South America huge areas no one lives.
However if you think the earth is overpopulated with humans take yourself on out of the equation.
Funny how most people talk talk but don’t act.
100% Paula.
Your questions are also my questions, John.
Some claim to have the answers, but are rather hesitant to provide them.
Careful though; they are on to me. I am in actuality a WEF agent, and my critiques of the WEF death cult are really being made in order to carry out my agenda via reverse psychology.
Or something.
“Look at the vast areas where there are not only no people but no one living anywhere around there either.”
Why is no one living there?
Places that are livable have populations.
Places that aren’t, don’t.
This doesn’t negate the fact that the rainforest that keeps us breathing is being decimated. That has long-ranging effects. And that’s only one huge example of non-renewable resources.
I’m not sure why people are in denial of the level of resources it takes for just one human to live from birth to death.
No one wanted to live on the Dutch flood plains either, until they figured out how to hold the water back.
And now they feed half of Europe to boot.
Human ingenuity sure is amazing.
Human ingenuity when given the requisite materials and funding sure is an amazing thing, sometimes. Sometimes it falls flat on its face and causes misery at an obscene level (the Dust Bowl being one example, failed dams that drowned hundreds, etc.).
Human ingenuity is a separate thing than being able to rehabilitate some part of the earth for usefulness. Mother Nature bats last. Lots of places are starting to have serious problems after years of stability because they forced an unnatural state on a particular region, or a natural disaster hit (see: Miami with its sinking problem; regions of CA with mudslides and forest fires, how ’bout that big flood in Germany last year?).
Also, for that new breadbasket to work, how much fossil fuel is required (forgive me if you’ve mentioned it above and I missed it)? Because that’s finite, and won’t be available forever.
“What happens when Peak Oil hits?”
It’s already happened.
JHK and others were right on the mark. The rear view mirror delay is now over. We reached world Peak in May 2005.
The flooding of the Ahr is a regular occurence.
Hence the systems in place to prevent it.
The uproar was because it appeared the “Green” government let the system fail on purpose.
Nobody is stooping, Owl, except by belittling everyone from a high horse. Mary has very valid points. Many of us, alas not enough, have very valid points. You mention acreage, but you cannot put everybody standing up in a corner and raze the rest to factory grow trash – replacing our beautiful, long suffering Gaia, yes I said it, with fucking trash, orders of magnitude worse than what we have now.
Eternal progress (to the mall) is not inevitable.
Time will tell.
Just provide proof for your claim. It is easy.
The flood of emotion that this request brings out is telling.
Apparently (as you claim) I am now a WEF technocrat for even asking you to prove what the WEFers also claim.
Owl, of course you’re not an agent of WEF. You just seem to agree on a part of their agenda.
I cannot prove anything other than in the visceral awareness of the visible decline, in many parts of the world, for my 51 years, of the environment, due to human greed. I also read Kunstler and am aware of Peak Oil.
benr, large predatory mammals like tigers need hundreds of square km per family. You cannot put a million tigers in that range. There’s plenty of space. And humans are not the problem, per se. Humans consuming too much too fast, fueled by an endless supply of central banks $ in the developed world is the problem. To you too, Owl. Acreage is not the issue. I said in one of the comments that the 8 billion alive now would be sustainable in an 1850 standard of living.
Yes, Rulo, the acreage argument reminds me of people who claim because we have a drought in one area of the US it proves climate change exists.
“I said in one of the comments that the 8 billion alive now would be sustainable in an 1850 standard of living.”
Rulo,
Maybe. Think of the congestion of Calcutta…
In Baltimore.
Night Owl chopping down the last tree on Easter Island. Stop, don’t do it.
Night: Prove that it’s the last one.
Can you at least stop chopping and go look?
Night: Nope. You nave to to prove to me that there are no more.
You can’t prove a negative. But you can experience it…..
Lol.
Things have descended into crybully territory once again.
Any verifiable proof for being at “carrying capacity”?
Any proof on what “carrying capacity” is?
My door is always open.
I don;t know about a cardinal rule in debate, but I do know that in an “official” debate, such as in an actual debating club,
each pair of participants is charged with either defending or attacking a proposition.
So, each debater has a “case” to prove or a position to defend, but they are opposite to each other.
That said, a comment thread is not a debating club. So just because one commenter states a proposition of some kind does not oblige anyone else to engage in any way. A commenter can just say, That’s BS. Now I am having my dinner.
The cardinal rule is that when one makes a claim, one is required to back it.
I questioned the claim made, and have made no claim. I do not believe the earth is at “carrying capacity,” nor do I believe that any of the rather emotional hangers on can (or the original poster) can provide a number for carrying capacity, because such a thing cannot be provided.
Let it be noted that thus far, such a thing has also not been provided.
The parallels with the Covid Hoax should be noted. Many claims, some models and theories, but no proof of anything.
One thing that is ever present however is fear, and the desire to dictate.
By denying a claim one claims the negative of the claim, at least in some cases. Certainly in this one.
You seem to imply that there are no limits to population growth or that we don’t know the limit. You certainly claim the 8 billion is not the limit. So prove it.
I have never stated there are no limits, nor implied it.
Another straw man.
I have asked you to prove that we are at “carrying capacity” — a claim no human being can prove at present.
Or can you?
Grate! So what do you think the limit or carrying capacity is?
Now, prove it.
Anybody consider that the apex orders of Dinos 65 million years ago overpopulated and ran out of their food chain before that meteor hit. Scientists do believe that they were dying out before the cataclysm.
Humans that believe we can just keep increasing population are in denial. The Dinos had plenty of brawn and no brains, we have brains but not much brawn. It may make no difference.
Remember that over population stops when Joe Everyman is convinced that dying is more fun than f*& king.
The Die-Centennial is fast approaching.
Spur,
this discussion is ultimately irrelevant. Que será, será. History with a capital H bosses everybody around. Each has his own mental revolution and starts seeing the world in a different light, or doesn’t.
I’m as stressed out as all of us after the long chain of never-ending black swans, I’m probably being a keyboard warrior but that wasn’t the idea. I scream from a soapbox about 40 acres and a mule, and not buying much. In America. Thinking it will make a difference
I’ll just believe what I believe and do what I do, with as much cheer and happiness as I can muster.
Pretty sure that they had a cataclysmic event (such as a supervolcano) that caused the climate to get too cold for them to live in.
Look at the cyanobacteria. They reproduced into oblivion, polluting the Earth with oxygen that ultimately killed most of them. But then the oxygen breathing species evolved.
Maybe when humans reproduce into oblivion a new species will arise that feeds on plastic and nuclear waste.
The Great Circle Of Life.
John AZ,
From all my reading over the decades I have come to feel that the tipping of the Eros vs. Thanatos balance toward the latter is not accorded enough attention, at least in today’s go-go fun-obsessed civilization.
The urge to extinction is always there, just under the surface. James H.P. Wilkie, a Scots psychic I knew in Vancouver in the 1970s, proposed that the death wish and knowledge of its pleasure and release are so pleasant that we have to have the interlock of a natural inhibition against it. Otherwise, there would be no appeal to keep going and we would simply drift away into non-existence. GAME OVER.
Mr. Wilkie should know whether he was on the money as he has transmigrated into the afterworld.
Rulo,
Impassioned post.
Allow me one nitpick. The quote you list as belonging to Bob Dylan was actually penned by Memphis Minnie in 1927, though it probably goes further back than that. Charley Patton and others. Dylan purloined from a lot of blues artists without attribution.
Soul, thanks. Nitpick allowed. I knew there was a previous reference, I read it somewhere shortly after Katrina. But you obviously speak from the authority of loving the stuff and knowing the venerable names. It just happened that my computer was playing one of Dylan’s newer albums, Thunder on the Mountain I think is the opening song, and it seemed fit to the subject being discussed.
One day we’ll have to talk about crypto again. I think I understand your position better now. You’re hedging your bets.
Rulo,
Yes, the world is much too unpredictable to cheerlead. Bitcoin (not crypto in general, which I think is a scam) will only work if the internet or some other digital communication system stays on line. Certainly a big “if”. Also, it bypasses central gov’t control, but it’s still a system of haves and have nots. (And chewing on digital dollars isn’t very nourishing if no one in your community is growing corn.)
BTW, very off topic, but I’m still pestering you to read Juan Filloy. I’ll expect a book review on one of his novels at some point!
Typical. “Dylan” is just another magpie, begging, buying, borrowing or stealing whatever is appealing.
Real insightful, rather comprehensive post there, Rulo
I’m a big nuclear energy proponent. Yes you are correct, many expenses needed to build them. However compared to wind and solar farms and the energy input vs energy output, I’d argue that nuclear is a vastly wiser investment.
Here’s the rub, what is causing the hatred and the party divide. My opinion.
One side wants the “Old” Constitutional America back, the 20th century, rah rah, Reaganesque patriotic America.
The other side wants America destroyed, the Constitution scrapped with a new socialistic order substituted. The WEF feeds this side to put the US into decline.
Those two groups cannot co-exist. This election shows that no one is changing their minds either.
How do we separate?
There is only one way, all others are filled with self-delusion and self-deceit, leading only to a prolonged self-defeat.
The Red Road is slippery and savage, but what great hope bubbles up from the nearly dry springs of discussion then only to evaporate into continuing calamity?
I don’t think it is that black and white. I and others I know don’t fit in either camp.
The system is going to destroy itself. This level of corruption cannot be sustained.
We have front row seats.
I don’t see it like that.
46% and probably more now are not in the Dem camp or Repub camp. That’s where you are short-sighted I think.
A parallel society will be built – is being built – by people who know that the other options lead to complete technofeudal slavery.
46% of Americans…. not speaking globally, although the same is happening around the world (parallel societies being planned).
JohnAZ:
“How do we separate?”
How can you say this having just stated that the WEF wants to see the USA destroyed.
I am as fed up with my fellow citizens as the next person, but I also can comprehend that there are forces that have wanted to break up the USA for a long time. Currently represented by their latest iteraiton, the WEF.
Many would and do say that actually the last bastion of resistance to the trans-humanist, CBDC, total control/surveillance, ID2020UN2030 etc. agenda IS THE USA.
Articles and books sluch as “It’s time for Civil War 2.0 in the USA” and “The USA Center Cannot Hold” etc. which I have been seeing is VERY LIKELY preprogramming that a lot of smart people are falling for.
Any kind of balkanization increases weakness and the potential to gain control.
Britain would have loved to see the breakup of the Union in the Civil War.
Why do you think it is just Russia that the world’s greediest want to break up? A lot of those who are creaming at the idea of Russia breaking up into controllable regions are actually also playing right into the hands of oligarchs and powerful weirdos who would really like to do the same to the USA, and for pretty much the same reasons.
That is Biden’s true crime: he is a pawn of those who are trying to break apart the USA, bring it down, and open its smaller parts up to iron control..
Germany became a power to reckon with after the Unification of German states in 1871.
I came fairly recently to this view of the ubiquitous talk now heard of secession; the country breaking up being a good thing. I am not totally convinced of the validitiy of this viewpoint, but there is actually quite a lot of evidence to support it.
spot on, Islander
We will agree to disagree. My point is that the two sides will be unable to coexist politically. The areas in the northern tier are watching what is happening with the Californication of Arizona, New Mexico, West Texas, Colorado. States are being turned into Liberal regions quickly now.
Ask Mary about Idaho. They want nothing to do with the Liberals of California. I even noticed that East California is sending GOP Reps to DC. Areas are firming up with conservative folks as majorities. Pretty soon, these folks are going to tell DC bye bye.
By the way, a lot of this area controls the FF of much of the country.
It is a matter of two very different groups not wanting to be together any more. Rationality will have no bearing. The conservatives will smell the oncoming WEF invasion and tell the Mob sayanara. They will not go down easily to the Left Mob on the East Coast. I will guarantee you Newsom wants no part of the WEF.
Yes, it may water down international power, but think, Biden is already doing that with help from WEF.
Just a thought, Alberta, British Columbia and Saskatchewan are rumored, as oil producers and conservatives to want to tell Ontario to take a hike. Could a new nation cross the Canadian border? The new countries could be divided east and west instead of north and south.
California will partner with the Sunbelt maybe. California and East Coast Libs are different.
Three countries?
You are referring to Wexit, which was the idea of western Canadian secession.
“My point is that the two sides will be unable to coexist politically. ”
I got your point.
Actually, a string of truisms, or obvious observations.
But did you get mine?
I don’t think so.
It would better for the whole world if they learned to disagree politically yet stay together as one sovereign nation.
My father would agree with you.
One time I asked him why the US fought such a vicious civil war.
If the South wanted to go why couldn’t they just go?
Why is the US like a roach motel, you can join but never leave?
And he said, like you, that the only reason the US was so powerful was that it was united. And if the south had left there probably would have been never ending border skirmishes and hostility.
OK, maybe the rest of the world would have been better off if the US was a small regional power instead of the expansionist country it became, reaching the Pacific Ocean by 1900 and having 800+ imperial worldwide bases by 2000.
But we as Americans were probably better off united.
Will we save the world now? I have my doubts, but I get your point.
A country full of ornery obstinate people used to going their own way is harder to subdue than most of the world.
Pashtuns excepted.
Idaho wants nothing to do with Liberals – yet they have allowed their state to be innundated by them. The Liberals have taken the capital city and are filling up the Valley. And they are bolstering their numbers by bringing in vast numbers of Muslims, Hispanics, and Black Africans who will largely vote as they do – or at least the non-Hispanics will.
Thus political separation is a must. And Islander’s idea is a bust.
Britain did love the civil war breakup, they supported the South. They wanted their cotton.
Is it a good thing? Right now, nobody cares how good it is, self interests prevail. Remember that what Biden wants is counter to most of the country.
You still are not getting my point.
You appear to be advocating for a breakup of the country with your tales of woe.
I don’t see any breakup of the USA happening until after the dollar is dead and of no use in international trade. At this point we’ll be unable to purchase foreign oil for dollars, and the nation will be required to live on what it has, not on what other nations send here. And it’s not just oil we rely on to keep our “lifestyle” going. Remove all the container ships coming from Asia and we’ll basically go back to an 1800’s way of life. We’ll have no shoes, no clothing, no car parts, no plastic shit sold at walmart, very little fuel etc. etc. We’ll have no imports until we have something other nations wish to trade for. They won’t be trading for worthless dollars.
The dollar is the only “glue” left holding the country together. When it’s gone the people living in the country will get zero benefit from having a central government that is so incompetent that it completely wrecked the country. Once the people living in Texas and other gulf coast states understand they are all about to die unless their refineries have access to petroleum – and that the central government is preventing that – then the choice before everyone will be to either secede or die. Which choice will it be? It may very well be that everybody really wants to die and get this shit over with. They just won’t tell you that to your face.
and when is that? if you answer, put in tomorrows thread.
Thanks
LOW DOWN ON THE MOW DOWN
(Here in Arizona anyway)
I treasure my vote like a fabulous pearl
Strutted into the place
Like the damn Duke of Earl
Woke just smirked at my confident style
Knew that I’d lose by more than a mile
But I slipped my ballot
Into the futility slot
Watched it disappear
Into a country of rot
January 6th, the Trump or MAGA temper tantrum, the gift that kept on giving, and giving, and giving.
Running candidates who are on the record as being against Medicare and Social Security.
Climbing into the womb and then into the tomb.
Leave it to the Republicans
Tucson,
Nice effort….
As you know, I’m always trying!
Tuscon, you forgot to mention the still warm dead horse i can’t stop obsessing about which are the state activated total abortion bans initiated by local Republican state legislators all over the country that did not help team red on Tuesday. That, and having to balance the Federal budget every election cycle on the backs of Social Security and Medicare which is just stupid reruns of 80’s talking points which didn’t help Republicans even with popular Reagan in charge. CONSERVATISM, INC as it is called by James Kirkpatrick who authored a book by the same title explains why this brand will continue to lose elections.
China being told to prepare for war.
msn.com/en-us/news/world/xi-jinping-reportedly-asks-china-army-to-concentrate-all-energy-on-fighting-a-war-amid-uncertain-unstable-times
Yep its coming.
This is an actual near-future threat.
Check out the aerial shots of just some of the prison camps they have built in the name of Covid, BTW.
https://twitter.com/GermsofCCP/status/1589858096947793921
China is ofc the model for the digital tyranny the ruling class wants to bring to the West.
Consider the resources invested here. That video should horrify just about anyone. Total control.
Another in another province. The scale is off the charts.
https://twitter.com/sephcadiz/status/1588865082712375303
Is this what JohnAZ wants?
Just adopting the Jarek tone for an instant! (:-))
There’s nothing wrong with that question. You still have the liberal idea of thinking discourse can always be nice. And when someone isn’t you try to get them booted off the site like a typical liberal.
How does that square with your idea above about staying together and trying to get along?
Not at all!
How do you know these are not newly built prison facilities?
Most are newly built. The construction has been tracked with satellite imaging.
How do you know they are covid prisons, have you vetted it?
Yes. Videos all over showing the individuals in them, including some aerials of people trying to get out and getting caught.
Okay, Benr. Are all regions of the US going to go to war with China to support the Deep State Mob?
I doubt it!
“The world has lost a third of its arable land due to erosion or pollution in the past 40 years, with potentially disastrous consequences as global demand for food soars, scientists have warned.The world has lost a third of its arable land due to erosion or pollution in the past 40 years, with potentially disastrous consequences as global demand for food soars, scientists have warned.”
That comes from the Guardian, an old article now more than six years old.
The scientists:
The University of Sheffield’s Grantham Centre for Sustainable Futures, which undertook the study by analysing various pieces of research published over the past decade, said the loss was “catastrophic” and the trend close to being irretrievable without major changes to agricultural practices.The University of Sheffield’s Grantham Centre for Sustainable Futures, which undertook the study by analysing various pieces of research published over the past decade, said the loss was “catastrophic” and the trend close to being irretrievable without major changes to agricultural practices.
Update that info with current climate conditions, added population and new political realities and we have a wheat crisis. Now.
Tres bien, K-Chien! I bet you have some new tricks?
Tricks? Without dog biscuits what is the point.
Dog Biscuits:
Preheat oven to 300°F. Lightly grease baking sheets.
Mix together FLOUR, oats, parsley, dried milk, and salt.
Add eggs, peanut butter, and bacon bits. Mix until the mixture is crumbly.
Add water to bring dough together.
Bake for 45 minutes to an hour.
Got wheat?
Seems wheat carryover is only 10 weeks. Not sure about that since good info stopped being put out a few months ago. I’m worried.
Something to do with manufacture of consent I think but I am guessing.
This looks like pretty good dog food!
When I was a kid we had up to 10 dogs running around our farm. Outside. They were not allowed in the house.
Don Corleone Dog was very prolific.
So, no dog bones for our dogs. Then we had a guest who loved to give them dog bones. And I had never had one.
And I loved them!
I made the guests give me dog bones to eat.
No harm done and maybe some good.
And, my gnawing on a dog bone certainly was good for laughs, but I didn’t see what was funny . . .
Islander, I hear you. Dogs are hunters and scavengers. Have been since they evolved? We spend millions on fancy dog food and treats.
Answer, not dogs, children!
while i’m very glad to see signs of life here at CFN, the general online gloom of all the websites i read, and my own appalled gasp at yesterday’s lies and confusions, makes me think maybe the neo-cons have the answer.
right now, starting wars with russia and china has a sort of 5d chess appeal. because if we hit them hard and often enough, surely they will do us the courtesy of taking out NYC, Wash.DC., maryland, Denver, L.A. Portland, Seattle, and wherever witchmer happens to be sleeping. yesterday proved that for sure, the red-wave americans can’t get this done. we are going to need help.
and voting should no longer be considered a tactic.
it looks like the constitution has found its logical life cycle ending.
you know, when the choice was between hubert humphrey and richard nixon, i voted for eldridge cleaver.
right now, the blacks and BLM, are looking smarter than the red wave.
yeah, yeah, WEF/DeepState commies are just waiting for us to start something.
so good, let’s start something. at the worst end, the military comes in to break up the combatants. and that would be a better deal than the one we have now.
do you really think they are going to stop? and get some fairness.
they spit on fairness.
What you forget is that they may not be kind to our population in the process. I don’t see how that ‘wins’ anything.
Mary, if it comes to that, no one will care. There will be no rationality. You fight for your beliefs, remember the CW1 split families.
Not sure what your point is.
there may well have been a red wave, but if we can’t get voting to work, then it is time to try something else. PCRoberts with whom i usually agree, makes the point that the voting tactic is over. it is broken. with the exception that this time the steal may wake up enough voters to realize it’s time for action.
or we can go gently into that good night.
paulcraigroberts.
org/2022/11/09/another-stolen-election/ ;
our voting stopped working long ago, even the russian analysts are commenting on this political fact:
whatdoesitmean
.com/index4088.htm ;
see sorcha’s translated quote at mid-page of Petr Akalov from “Russia Will Emerge Victorious From The American Elections”
our elections are a global joke.
at the best, our elections are a political slow-kill
just like the vaxx is a slow-kill
The Democrats didn’t defeat a Red Wave by cheating as far as I can see. The Republicans lost any momentum by advocating for stupid and unpopular ideas like supporting total abortion bans and cutting Federal spending which can only mean cutting S.S. and Medicare and not pushing Immigration control hard enough. I could see this coming in my area of eastern Nebraska with the lame Don Bacon campaign ads. Total Bush/Romney Republican who could talk about nothing but Inflation and spending and tax cuts.
‘I’ll just believe what I believe and do what I do, with as much cheer and happiness as I can muster.’
Right on Rulo. Simple and wise. What else can one do in times like these?
Yes, ‘be bounded in a nutshell and count yourself king of infinite space’!
cheers, spur!
Trump got a “head wound” yesterday.
With regards to the ongoing debate about ‘Earth’s carrying capacity’, all I’ll say is that over the course of the next 8ish years there is going to be a massive death rate around the world that will be utterly shocking.
So for those who are concerned about ‘carrying capacity’, well, that problem is about to be “solved”.
And this will include the US and Western nations. Why? A plethora of causes. I think most can guess what at least some of them will be.
Oh…..How many do I think will die off worldwide? I don’t know exactly, but it will be in the multiple billions. In the US? Multiple tens of millions.
What is the “carrying capacity?”
What is the average airspeed of a swallow carrying a coconut?
I keep thinking of that Deagle report that many of us discovered over 2.5 years ago, that said the US population was going to tank in the next 5 years. Can’t remember down to what number, but again, shows how planned this all is.
The Deagle Report seemed about as real as Q-Anon.
No idea. It is a military outlet, and they changed the stats after it was noticed.
Bullshit.
1) It’s ‘Deagel.com’
2) it CLAIMED to be ‘a major military-industrial corporation’ but is in fact an obscure website (possibly run by NHM’s red-haired step-brother) which has plenty of snotty handkerchiefs of previous predictions being outright wrong – such as the 2012 prediction that the US population would fall to 245 million by 2020, when in fact it grew to 330 million.
3) The stats have not ‘been changed’. They’ve been archived…
Deagle was Undersecretary of the Air Force under President Bill Clinton. He later became Assistant to the Secretary of Defense and the Deputy Secretary of Defense under Clinton in 1994.
Edwin Deagle is also listed as an active member of the CFR.
Perhaps most telling of all is the interesting fact that Deagle is the Director for International Relations for the Rockefeller Foundation, one of the leading eugenic supporters in the world.
Make of that what you will.
Well, there’s that. The four horsemen. Horrible and sad. A smarter version of ourselves would have found another way.
Still, plant a tree. Drink a pint. Don’t despair. My 2¢.
When I moved here I had a pasture and made money for the mortgage by boarding horses.
Then the economic collapse in 2001 happened and I had no more income, but ended up with 3 abandoned horses.
Anyway, I don’t have a tractor so I used to hire farmers to bush hog my pasture every year, but the economic collapse put those small farmers out of business.
So now my pasture is completely overgrown with trees and brush.
I used to look at it with dismay but then my husband told me to look at it as a carbon sink.
Brilliant! It’s all in the framing.
So now I look at it fondly.
Wilder is better, and in the end, more valuable.
I am going to make an attempt to learn mushrooms and other wild foods.
The gardening thing is hard. I need to learn to eat weeds.
@ Paula D:
Not so hard. I don’t know how anyone lives without gardening. Of course you could just go with fruit trees, which pretty much take care of themselves: peaches, apples, pears, cherries. Hazelnuts are very productive and bear nuts the second year. (Might even be the first year; I can’t remember.) Pecans are nice to have, but the trees take a long time to bear.
For wild foods, I think my favorite is wild parsnips. They are all over the place around here. You have to dig them in the winter or early spring. Autumn olive berries are also very good. If you make a sauce with them, it tastes a lot like tomato sauce, but a little tannic. I like mulberries a lot. The only kind of wild greens I really like is poke salat. (The rest are okay.)
@ Paula D:
Sounds like you need goats.
I think a year before Covid, Amazon released a show starting John Cusack called Utopia (2020) a scientist who wants a humane way to deal with the large numbers of humanity. A good show I thought, but during Covid I thought oh my Trump.
Now Amazon has new show called The Peripheral, based on a book by William Gibson. A bleak future with tech infecting humans, but the 3 or 4 episode they explain what happened to the 7 billion humans in the future, and labeled it JACKPOT. I was oh my Trump, art reflects reality or a pure coincidence? Awesome shows but to real life for me, anyway my part of Western New York had all Democratic incumbent candidates winning again, and our Kathy won so at least the Buffalo Bills will get us working wage slaves to pay for their new stadium. JHK I did not win the Powerball!
Predictive programming is one of many things I’d never heard of until quite recently. 🙂
I heard in a lecture that (according to the lecturer) even HG Wells was part of it. It appears to go back a long way.
Good to hear from you again, rocco. You have been quiet.
I wonder if it would have been better if you had nothing to say at all… given those figures, of course.
@Night Owl wrote:
“What do you want that they do not want? Go into detail.”
He’s asking how, when the WEF cohort talks of approaching overpopulation issues, and someone like me talks overpopulation also, how our two overpopulationist positions are differentiated. I’ve also claimed that a “correct” overpopulation acknowledgement and response is the BEST OPPOSITION to the WEF. So, how does that work?
What I want that the WEF DOES NOT want is A REJECTION OF ALL HIGHLY ENERGY-CONSUMPTIVE TECHNOLOGY DEPENDENCE. The core of the WEF agenda is the preservation of high-tech above all else… in the face of REAL, approaching energy-constraints. If you don’t understand this, if you don’t understand the realistic energy picture, you can’t fully understand the WEF.
The WEF want to curb human population to a size that will permit (in their minds and hopes) a continued advance of high-tech human “progress.” Their desire and aim is to do whatever it takes to make industrial progress a permanent state of being for humans.
This is also what you want, I think, Night Owl (to make industrial progress a permanent state of being for humans). The only difference between them and you, really, is that they believe population-reduction is necessary to achieve this goal. Why do they believe this? Because they have a clearer insight into the accurate future energy-supply picture than you do. They know fossils will soon decline, replacements are not adequate replacements, and real ecological limits constrain increasing total energy-usage anyway.
They know that your option of continuing industrial progress without any adjustment for energy shortfall, and population and ecological pressures is impossible, not a real option. Otherwise they’d be fine with that. The current arrangements profit them more than anyone. Why risk a highly tricky and severe escalation of oppressive control over the populace unless the risk were absolutely necessary?
So, if WEFers ARE right about energy shortfall, and population and ecological pressure… why oppose them?
Because, they are WRONG (and so are you, NO) about continued industrial progress being the correct, or even a possible, path forward for humanity. The neo-feudalism it would take to even attempt to further industrio-technological projects will leave the populace completely unmotivated and unenamored with the entire state of affairs. People are spoiled by oil now. As the returns for the common man in the post-oil era continue to be miniscule, the new arrangements will be increasingly hated, and the elites can’t accomplish anything with no willing populace at all.
The WEF are just another faction of society wishing to hang on to industrial progress when that sphere of progress is already mined to the end of the seam. This is why they should and must be opposed. They will further wreck access to the true path of human progress, which is… an acceptance/re-acceptance of the persistent limits of our creaturehood. Doing this (accepting limits of creaturehood) will also require population reduction… not to feed freed resources into the technological machine, but to create space in the world again for humans living without the passing and unsustainable “luxury” resources of high technology and her impermanent and/or uncontrollably messy fuels.
If the populace does not accept the need and responsibility for depopulation (which is necessitated doubly by both the coming energy shortfall and current/worsening ecological strains), then they will be ineffective resistors to the WEF planners whose worldview will look increasingly accurate to a dumb public as events play out, giving the WEF increasing cache. If the populace does not take responsibility for balancing their own population ahead of time to a less and less fertile energy supply, the WEF will gain power through public’s ignorant desperation as energy supplies grow tighter, be more successful selling WEF aims, creating serfs of people, and fucking the planet up further with their stupid, doomed techtopian projects. (You think the Green Revolution is bad and a waste, wait till Klauss is directing the entire tech-progress slush-fund and all the minions he can muster.)
The Right is correct that renewables are garbage (and that climate change as an issue is dubious).
The Left is correct that ecological damage is critical (quite apart from climate change exaggerations/assumptions).
The WEF are correct that both fossil supplies being set to shrink and ecological problems reaching critical levels necessitate population reduction.
And none of these groups have accepted that the entire industrial/technological project is toast…
…..
“Drive across the United States there are areas where no one lives and you don’t see anyone for hours.”
These areas are called deserts (along with a few national parks where some of the 4% of mammal-mass that lives wild are, and a couple large, properly grazed dry-grassland ranches), benr.
…..
“Tech fail bc of lack of energy is the only hope against digital money and the vax pass.”
Rulo probably has it right.
……
“Ok then. If it hasn’t happened yet, it’s predictive and thus invalid. Thus until the human race dies off, we’re wrong.
What a genius!”
Jarek bodyslams NO, who has that condition where pain is not experienced by the brain, again.
Well said, robertg. Night Owl is operating on a logical fallacy that anyone who believes the earth is overpopulated is in agreement with the WEF, and Green New Deal.
I do NOT agree with you that the 1 child solution China mandated is a solution. I don’t see that as a better solution than jabbing kids to death with untested mRNA poison.
Night Owl also does not seem to understand that many of us can hold two conflicting thoughts at once: Yes, the earth is overpopulated, but no, I am not for genociding or torturing people into forcing population reduction. Mother Nature will take care of that, as she does all species who overpopulate. Not for me to make that decision (obvs, I’m nobody and without power).
Obviously, you and I have no say in that but yet there is this strange argument over it. What a bizarre debate among people who believe any of our say in this actually matters – THAT is hilarious.
I usually like Night Owl posts, but this “prove the world is overpopulated” series is strange, and I’m not really sure what his goal is.
The one-child policy thing is, I admit, a bit of an instigator’s tool for me. Not that I don’t believe there might not be a real role for it. But it would need majority popular support, need to be, at least for a significant majority, voluntary (to even be feasible, much less ethical).
But first, Night Owl has probably been making a very serious point. IF overpopulation is a central blockage to human progress and cause of current problems, and IF doing anything about it requires a majority-convinced public, then job number one is — prove it! Prove overpopulation is a problem to the masses (not just in a closeted debate).
I think this kind of popular proof will take two things. 1) Circumstances for the global public getting worse and worse. And, 2) people out there arguing that overpopulation is a problem publicly. People insistently putting the case for and logic of overpopulation out there in a strong voice with conviction, determination and good arguments, and coming from a genuine and caring place, an honest, informed and accurate concern for human future.
Putting the issue out there will give people (who are a lot of sheeps that need help, let’s face it) a new tool in their toolbox to explain contemporary problems as they increase. If overpopulation is not an option for people to choose, a publicly, passionately argued for option, most people will not find it, no matter how right it is. But if it’s out there, and circumstances demand answers, even sheep can sometimes pick the correct cause to their problems in the end, then maybe even do something about it.
Overpopulation has been ‘out there’ for as long as I’ve been an adult.
I’m 59.
I am doubting that people will suddenly ‘come together’ to form a solution.
Screws gotta turn harder, and messaging continue, then..
Or actual genocide and starvation come first.
The proof IS always in the pudding only, and nowhere else.
But I believe ideas matter.
Even to give people cleaner consciences in necessary wars..
The overpopulation issue has been around, sure, like a lame dog out back. Every other, lesser issue has been paraded out in avoidance of population (and energy shortfall, similar case, since they do go together).
Well, genocide has always gone on, and goes on today, 24/7.
It’s amazing to me that people think the only genocide that has ever occured was the Holocaust.
What about the genocide in The Congo between 1894-1910? It’s the basis for Conrad’s “Heart of Darkness.” Horrific stuff. Even more on that in the book “King Leopold’s Ghost.”
Of course in the Americas, the slaughter of indigenous peoples everywhere for ‘progress,’ etc.
Kinda wild, all that genocide and populations still blooming up skyward through all of them. So, the kind of genocide created from encounter with actual global limits to sustainability of the economy and current populations… would probably be quite a more notably spicy flavor of genocide than the usual, basic, run-of-the mill genocides, I think?
Perhaps what’s out there is really “Under-Population.”
I’ve seen too many Hoaxes since 911.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
The proof for your claim is has to be located.
So many emotions.
“has yet to”
I remain curious, ofc.
Amman, indeed. Quite possible.
For well over a decade the talk in Europe was that the birthrate was far too low (it still is quite low in Germany), and that Europe was dying out.
At one point the government here was claiming migrants could help boost the population.
But Gaia is at “carrying capacity,” so this must have been junk science.
We will be punished with more regularly occuring annual flooding in the Ahr valley.
@MQ If you keep making points like that, you’ll become a full balls-out leftie. Everything has a context including the fashionable genocide stories. It’s not my job to tell what that context is -. Not least because I don’t want the many infamous and male idiots on CFN to know.
You should figure it out yourself – determine the true context for everything that has happened in the past 200 years. For your own good, don’t promulgate a white nation Guilt complex.
My understanding is that the world population is declining almost everywhere but in Africa.
As I’ve said before, some parts of the world are overpopulated, but much of the world consists of vast areas where the population is quite manageable, and other vast areas with little or no human population.
Back in the 80s, it was often pointed out that you could put the entire population of the earth within the city limits of Jacksonville, Florida. Admittedly, Jacksonville has a large land area, and it would have been standing room only. The human population has increased since then, so maybe you would now need two areas the size of Jacksonville.
People have always countered this observation by saying that it takes many acres of usable to sustain the life–and lifestyle–of each person.
IMHO, while it’s true that we have resource depletion, I don’t think the proximate cause of it is “too many people.”
While it is impossible–at least for me–to make an estimate, most of the labor products of most of the working people of the world are siphoned off by the 0.01%. The average person actually enjoys little of the advantages accruing from fossil fuels, compared to elites. He has a car, a lawnmower, electricity, and a furnace. I suspect that about 90% of all labor productivity winds up (figuratively speaking) in the Hamptons.
Consider the lifestyles of the wealthy in 18th Century England. Recall the movie, “Pride and Prejudice,” and Mr. D’Arcy’s estate: a large acreage, a house the size of a city block, a reflecting pool the size of a football field, the Elgin Marbles (or similar) in the front parlor, etc. All this was afforded by the income from the rents paid by peasant farmers and shopkeepers in a single county–who also supported large numbers of lesser nobility in a pretty good style.
Today, the productivity of most workers is many, many times the productivity of an 18th Century English peasant farmer or shopkeeper. (Let’s say that labor productivity is maybe 100 times what it was then.) Almost all of this surplus productivity is siphoned off by the elites. Mr. D’Arcy can now afford to own about 17 estates the size of Pemberly, a fleet of fine Bentleys, a couple of private jets, some helicopters, a few airstrips (with staff), and so forth.
This is where the great bulk of fossil fuel usage is going.
Hence, I’d say much (or most) of the excess usage of resources has little to do with any supposed excesses of the common man, with his two cars and a lawnmower.
Generally speaking, the problem is not with the numbers of humans, per se, but is rather structural.
Some here have pointed out that, while there are endless acres of vacant land throughout the world, it is not arable or otherwise usable land. I don’t think that’s true. E.g., there are people living in the Peruvian Andes. They have lived there for centuries (maybe millennia, for all I know). The Andes are so (supposedly) inhospitable to human life that when the Incas first arrived there, the women were unable to bear children, due to the altitude. No children were born until the first girl children grew up, having made an almost lifelong adaptation to the altitude.
The Mormons settled Utah, back in the day. To me, Utah does not seem very hospitable to human life. But they made it work. During 18th Century, and much of the 19th Century, the Great Plains was called “The Great American Desert.”
Part of the reason that there are huge, unsettled regions in the world is that the people do not have access to the land. I forget what percentage of Western lands are owned by the federal government, but it’s quite a large percentage. In Missouri, enormous tracts of land are owned by either the state or the federal government. It isn’t that these vast empty spaces are not usable or are inhospitable to humans. It’s that humans are not allowed to settle there. Sure, not much of, say, the Missouri Ozarks could be farmed–though there are still large areas that could be. But land that cannot be farmed can be used for grazing. As I mentioned in a previous comment, that was what the Swiss did to become food self-sufficient during WWII: Mountain meadows were used for grazing–and hence the production of meat, milk, butter, and cheese–and every inch of arable land was used for vegetable and fruit production.
Some here might gripe that there is something wrong with humans making productive use of the earth’s resources–turning land into farms and grazing lands. But I think that we should view humans and their doings as just another part of nature. Humans are animals too. We do what animals do. We make homes for ourselves and use the resources that come to hand.
Good post, Anth. Food for thought, rather than concrete statements backed by next to nothing.
Cheers.
@Anthea
Not declining. Growth rate is slowing… slowly. Earliest projected stoppage of growth globally is in 100 years or so at around 10, 11B. Lots of factors in play over that span of time though.
A problem with “working class” agricultural life is that it’s both productive and boring. A hothouse recipe for excessive fertility, in other words.
The position that world is overpopulated now hinges on two things: energy outlook in coming centuries as fossils decline, and severity of present ecological pressures.
It shouldn’t be that hard to see that “birthrate is too low” talk is bald messaging from execs concerned simply with keeping the debt economy solvent.
Very sheeplike to buy in to it.
Anthea:
Sensible post.
Nitipick:
Re ” what the Swiss did to become food self-sufficient during WWII: Mountain meadows were used for grazing–and hence the production of meat, milk, butter, and cheese–and every inch of arable land was used for vegetable and fruit production. ”
The Swiss always used their alpine meadows for grazing and producing milk and butter. It is called, weirdly enough, transhumance.
httpX://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumance
The reliance on industrial agriculture has blunted or knowledge of how much food can be produced in a piecemeal fashion, locally.
Documentaries about famine in China in I believe the 1940s show how **every patch** of land was used to grow food. That also means, in cities. We have so much land in every single town, not to mention in the suburbs, that could actually be used to produce some food. Not to mention tree crops.
In the words of was it John Paul Jones?
” I have not yet begun to fight!” j
Only make that “We have not yet begun to really wrap our heads around ‘zero waste’ and ‘maximum efficiency.'”
This is not to say that ecosystems are not being seriously degraded–of course they are! Not something I am willing to waste breath arguing about.
But industrial agriculture might be the best place to start to look for environmental “savings.”
And, ecological restoration a la John D. Liu and Alan Savory.
“Documentaries about famine in China in I believe the 1940s show how **every patch** of land was used to grow food. That also means, in cities. We have so much land in every single town, not to mention in the suburbs, that could actually be used to produce some food. Not to mention tree crops.”
Indeed. I would suggest that industrial farming is not even needed in many places. Most parts of Germany could easily get by without it.
We get half of our eggs from our neighbors. There are several people on our typical upper-mid.-class street have a few chickens.
I have spent a lot of time in SE Asia, too. Most of what the people eat there is locally grown, butchered, etc. Most shop at farmer’s markets, unless they live near a big city.
@Anthea, great points and this is why this topic is so fascinating to discuss.
I still find it interesting that anyone can make a claim to know 100% whether the world is overpopulated or not.
You give examples of how humanity has managed to populate previously unpopulated areas – of course. The entire world was unpopulated at some point.
Look at what Inuits deal with – almost unimaginable to the rest of us.
The problem as I see it is economical. I sure wish we could all manage to live in a beautiful, less-crowded area. But to do so means less access to resources.
@Amman, I don’t care what label you put on me. My arguments and opinions are my own.
@Islander
Certainly there us much room for increased efficiency. However, efficiency without changes in growth habits (without attention to population growth) can, and often do, simply increase growth trends.
And as energy supplies falter, increased efficiency will do well to simply plug those gaps.
Basically, potential of increased efficiency can often seem more revolutionary than it is.
Efficiency or no, an overpopulation situation will remain an overpopulation situation until that problem is addressed in itself.
Not to mention that “efficiency” is the buzzword of industrialism. Blindered focus on efficiency alone as savior will create… an industrial, oppressive vibe. A quite “WEF” vibe, you might say.
As Thoreau said, In wilderness is preservation of the world. Night and Anthea want “efficiency” and to farm or ranch every last viable acre. It’s a violation of the Cosmic order, but of course that’s just moonshine to these two crazies.
Jacksonville? Bill once said that all of humanity could be housed in a cube one mile on the sides. Only a person who has lost (or never had) full humanity would ever think like this.
Sure, just stack ’em up like firewood Bill. At least they get to lie down. Anthea would keep them standing.
Interesting continued discussion.
One avenue — to me, the key one — is the moral aspect. People — even here — are hesitant to talk about it. It’s like someone farting in church. Better just ignore it until it goes away.
But it’s not going away. Even if we grant Night Owl his scepticism, honour it in some fashion, then what?
Do we “wait” till we have more info? What would that look like? We know, for example, that the Saudis, i.e., don’t fully disclose their total oil reserves at any one time. Could be higher than our best guesstimates. What’s the plan then? (Though we have a lot of info on the situation in Saudi Arabia and other countries — Mexico, e.g. — and it’s not good.) Keep plowing through our remaining reserves until …. the cars are parked and the fields run out of pesticides, etc? (Surely, N.O. and others at least agree that FF have had drastically declining EROEI ratios for a long time?)
Energy is money and vice versa. It’s getting incredibly expensive to produce oil, which is why most oil cos have either drastically slashed their exploratory adventures, or have given up on them altogether. That’s why they want to corner the wind-and-solar scam (with the help of Schwab et al.) People are buying it!
Ultimately, though, that fart in church is human greed. Even in a utopian scenario, most countries aren’t gonna be able to feed themselves at the scale they’re accustomed to, with local farming practices. Take away the abundance (affordability) of oil, and people don’t get fed. Even so-called low-tech practices depend on oil.
In the best case sci-fi fantasy, with abiotic oil bursting the seams of rock a million years old under the ground, and God waking up from a long nap thinking it’s the eighth day, descending to magically extract it for us, Jevons paradox still applies. We’d simply fuck, and populate this globe with an additional 8 billion people even faster than what it took us the past 160 years. So yes, in that scenario, we’re not overpopulated. Quality of life for us and remaining, depleted species, though? Can we even make it to reproductive age?
Nature will solve the problem the hard way.
Gus:
“Efficiency or no, an overpopulation situation will remain an overpopulation situation until that problem is addressed in itself.”
Wrong. That is, the logic are wrong.
Nuff said.
“Efficiency” is a buzzword of industralization, so therefore I should not use it?
Truly magical thinking.
Islander,
It’s the Jevon’s paradox Soul mentioned (the logic).
Seeking to solve energy/population issues primarily via efficiency… there is a sense in which you’re fighting fire with fire… trying to solve the wounds of industrialism with even more industrialism. Just a 2¢ food for thought there.
@MQueen Label…? Oh, No! Never again!
Brilliantly explained, robert.
Yes, realizing that the Earth is overpopulated does not lead logically to advocating genocide. That is a very weird leap.
I think that paying people to voluntarily sterilize themselves would be a very good way to incentivize population reduction.
But yeah, our ruling overlords don’t want the population reduced. They say stupid things like “Japan is on a population collapse”.
What does this mean? Japan had 80 million people in 1800, before fossil fuels. It now has 126 million people but is no longer rising.
Why is that bad?
I just googled to find out the numbers and was informed by all the results that Japan is losing workers for the labor force and that is Very Bad.
That is the attitude of our rulers, the more teeming masses willing to work for them the better.
That is the propaganda we are continually subjected to, even as the teeming masses produce more and more babies to be fed.
Yeah, the WEF members see it differently and they are bound and determined to reduce the population, but most of the owners on this planet prefer more slaves not fewer.
It’s a battle of the titans and we can only watch and argue among ourselves about what is going on.
Yes, exactly.
Japan was incredibly efficient in 1800.
Without fossil fuels, when the dust settles, they will be head over heels lucky to support anything close to 80 million again. The support structures (social, environmental, technological) that enabled that number in 1800 have only eroded over the last 225 years.
Or, they could be some cyborg, doomed, bug-eating nuclear dystopia at 100 mil, maybe.
Yes, it’s good if people like Paula opt out. But obviously we need more White people – of the right kind.
Gustaph is still refusing to add tribalism or who goes and who doesn’t into the equation. I’m not comfortable with genocide either, but if Liberals don’t want to reproduce, that’s a good beginning to be sure.
We could have had Fortress America. 220 million people, 90% White. Unlike many or most places, we had everything we needed. We could have just watched the world system collapse and die. But the Rothschilds already had secret control over America and that was never going to happen. So what I said above it on the technical level, not the level of political reality.
I want tribalism, but I’d like to give multiple groups chances to compete. My ideal would be, gradually reduce populations to a more manageable density while we still have current infrastructure, then kiss high technology goodbye and let the games begin.
What we’ll probably get is some more sudden breakdown, possibly so severe that much that’s valuable and could have been saved is lost.
What is the right kind of white people?
White skin isn’t enough? Intelligence isn’t enough? Healthy isn’t enough? Competence isn’t enough?
You have to be a white nationalist or you are worthless?
I don’t know why Jarek gets on your case.. But I appreciate Jarek’s insistence on tribalism and realism regarding race and racial culture, and also his admissions of recent White failures to act in self-interest. Appreciate his healthy desire for White tribalism without sacrificing objectivity regarding White shortcomings.
Gustafson hasn’t noticed that Jarek only likes females that suck up to him.
Which is pretty much only 1 person here.
Let’s give him a tribe and a good wife and see if he reforms.
Well, CFN’rs…this has been discussed as a possibility;
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2022/11/03/vaccine-targeting-both-flu-and-covid-starts-trials-as-scientists-test-new-ways-to-immunize-people-more-efficiently/?sh=1a8079e7b3fd
Our friends at Pfizer, are attempting to develop a flu vaccination dosage that combines both flu and Covid protection…I shit you not.
Never again will I submit to a needle.
Haha wow. It should read “scientists test new ways to increase market share and maximize profits”. The resistance is good news. If you look at the side effects of many pharma products you’ll see that death is one of them.
Their Greed has been stoked and is CORPulent.
The most interesting part of this entire fraud is that many people are likely to now question the entire concept of vaccination.
Groups claiming that (actual) vaccines caused a host of injury and disease are certainly getting lots of traction these days. Were these shots what we were told they were?
Think of how off-the-wall the very idea of this was just a few years ago.
@ Night Owl:
If you look into it, you’ll find that vaccines in general are not “safe and effective.” In many or even most cases, the likelihood of injury or death from the vaccine exceeds the likelihood of injury or death from the disease that it prevents. Several of these diseases are so absurdly innocuous that it makes no sense to take any risk whatsoever to vaccinate against them. Chickenpox is one example–plus its easily and quickly cured with Echiinacea.
I researched vaccinations back in the 80s, when my kids were little, and became an anti-vaxxer.
One thing about my reasearches back in the day that is interesting is that none of the many, many books I read about vaccinations made any mention of thimerosal (the mercury preservative). I never heard of it at all until around 2000. I have often wondered why all those people who wrote 600-page books on the dangers of vaccinations (apparently) did not know about thimerosal. Like, maybe the pharmaceutical companies have never been 100% transparent about what’s in them?
Yes, I don’t disagree. I have mentioned in the past that when I moved to Germany, it was the first time I ever had a doctor consult with myself and with both my wife and I concerning various vaccinations.
It would have been no issue to opt out of the entire schedule for our son, after he was born. We did not, but I sometimes wonder now if we have harmed him.
In our case, there is no way to really know, unfortunately.
I have a Bavarian ancestor born in the 1800’s who created a lot of turmoil and issues in his family due to his not believing in using organic chemistry the way most other Germans did. Germans were pioneers in the field and that’s why today most big pharma companies have German names like Merck or Pfizer. He scoffed at anything synthetic including synthetic foods like margarine. He took only herbal medicines. He never had a single vaccination and never used allopathic pills, antibiotics, or received any routine shots. He only used regular medicine for trauma, broken bones etc.
For everything else, he was a follower of a German priest named Sebastian Kniepp, commonly thought of as one of the founders of naturopathic medicine. Part of his routine was frequent cold showers and even immersion in ice water. Something I never had the balls to do on a regular basis. This system of health care that apparently worked extremely well for my great grandad. He died in his sleep at age 100, and had been so healthy all his life that in his 90’s he was still out walking, landscaping his yard, going swimming, etc. The rest of his family was both horrified at his refusal to use traditional medical services – and amazed that he was so healthy and strong all the way to the very end of his life. They kept predicting disaster for him and instead the very reverse happened. Because of this, a few other open minded relatives, including my mom, adopted the Kniepp view of medicine. This caused ongoing family controversy and fighting over medical issues and beliefs. If you don’t believe in “modern medicine” – a host of well meaning and very frightened people will wish to butt into your affairs and try to “save” you. It’s the same situation as having fundamentalist religious relatives who have a lot of personal problems and moral failures yet are on a continuing campaign to “save” *your* soul.
There is a huge amount of fraud and deception going on in our health care system. Yet people believe in it without any real evidence. If a university calls something “science” – then by gawd we simply must believe it and follow it, even if it makes no sense.
One Russian health fanatic recommended walking barefoot in the snow. I’ve tried it – very stimulating!
Don’t forget Bayer Aspirin, Woody.
Jarek,
I forget that Russian’s name, but yes, he started a movement in Russia. Very popular among the masses. Took away a lot of business from more high tech, gov’t approved doctors, and so the authorities jailed him numerous times. Apparently vigorous into his old age, even with all the deprivations while incarcerated.
It’s really just a more ancient version of grounding, combined with (paradoxically titled) heat shock science — extreme temps. same as Finns in a sauna then jumping into a nearby lake.
Good thing you don’t have a daughter who had a temperature, the “shakes” and nearly passed out in a fake emergency room…
You don’t cure chicken pox like herpes it’s for life.
Which is why some older people have flare ups called shingles later on in life.
@ benr:
I knew a woman who cured herself of shingles by taking Echinacea. She started out taking the recommended dose of a purchased tincture, which wasn’t doing much good. So she downed the whole bottle (probably a one-ounce bottle), which effected a cure.
Back in the 90s, my kids got chicken pox. I gave them Echinacea for it–just a decoction made from the roots–and they were cured virtually overnight. I had no idea whether it would work; it was just a shot in the dark. I didn’t believe it myself, at first. Then another one of my kids got chicken pox and I was slow to treat it, because I was out of Echinacea. So I saw several days of what untreated chicken pox looks like. I learned that kids don’t just get well in 24 hours. When the child of friends got chicken pox, I gave them some Echinacea and they said it also cured their daughter very quickly. All this happened about ten years before I met the woman who used Echinacea to cure her shingles.
If you get shingles, you might want to give it a try. The trick with Echinacea is this: Don’t skimp on the dose. Another thing you should know about Echinacea is that many of the capsules you buy at the store are very weak. Walmart’s are especially weak. In years past, if I was treating a toothache or a UTI with Echinacea, I would take six Walmart capsules every four hours. It worked. Now their capsules are even weaker than they were before, and I did not get good results from even that high of a dose. Capsules from the health food store are said (by my old-lady herbalist pals) to be better–about twice as strong. Tinctures come in one-ounce bottles. That won’t be enough for most problems. You’ll probably need several bottles.
The best thing to do is to make your own tincture. Buy dried echinacea root online. Put enough in a quart jar so that it’s about one-third full. Add vodka, enough to fill the quart jar. Normally you let a tincture sit for about a month before use. If you need it immediately–no problem. Just swallow about a teaspoon of the chopped roots as if they were pills. These can be chopped roots you fished out of your tincture.
A tincture made this way is good and strong. You will only need a dose of a tablespoon or two every four hours.
Echinacea tincture is an invaluable medicine to keep on hand. It will cure toothaches and UTIs, and is helpful for just about any infection. It is considered a specific for teeth, kidneys, and the urinary tract. You should have a quart or two of the tincture on hand at all times.
Echinacea is very easy to grow. (It’s a weed, okay?) Echinacea is the purple coneflower. It is a popular garden flower. All species are medicinal. It re-seeds, so you can wind up with quite a large patch in a few years.
You harvest the root in the second year, after the plant has flowered. Wash the fresh root, chop it up, and tincture it in vodka.
Nice.
Not cured simply in remission.
Anthea, Ben is correct on this one. You can’t cure chicken pox, once you’ve had it the virus sits in the base of your spine and lies dormant… Seniors, people with compromised immune systems, high stress, illnesses like cancer and going through chemo etc can trigger and reactivate it and that is shingles. I had it when I was going through Chemo and it can be quite dangerous for someone on chemo treatment. I’ve since had the shingles vaccine which I’m thankful for as I’ve had to go through Chemo multiple times and thankfully haven’t had shingles since.. Your echinacea treatment might have helped the chicken pox symptoms or shingles symptoms which is great, but it doesn’t get rid of it permanently.
NO:
Yeah, sort like how the sanctions against Russia boomeranged.
Funny, about the best laid plans of mice and men . . .
Yep. The plan is for all “vaxxes” to be on the MRNA platform. To get more nanotechnology in the bloodstream and biology of humans. It won’t be long before they’ll say that they have an MRNA shot that will help (cure?) cancer.
It’s all a part of the transhumanist agenda which I’ve mentioned before. A bio reset, if you will.
And, as I’ve mentioned above there’s a whole lotta mass death in the works too.
“Among those who now see Mr DeSantis as a stronger White House contender than Mr Trump was Mike Cernovich, a right-wing commentator who was once described by Politico as an “indefatigable Trump cheerleader”.
“Trump has zero shot at 2024 in general. After tonight, this isn’t up for debate,” Mr Cernovich tweeted on Tuesday night. “DeSantis in 2024 or accept total defeat”.
The prospect of facing Mr DeSantis in two years isn’t lost on Mr Trump, who warned that he “could hurt himself very badly” and that he would reveal “things about him that won’t be very flattering”.
Patrick Ruffini, a Republican pollster and strategist, described Mr Trump as a “wounded animal” to the BBC, when compared to Mr DeSantis’ very good election night.”
DeSantis: ‘Florida is where woke comes to die’.
If he runs, Trump will lose. Listen to him above. Hurt your opponent even if it hurts your country. Trump, the petulant child, riled and wild, the braying Bashibazouk more and more reviled.
I do like DeSantis’ “war on woke”. Overall, it appears his schtick is to utterly destroy and dismantle woke ideology everywhere it is found.
But
He gets support from the warmonger, anti-American, globalist, capitalist pig neoconservatives
So, color me skeptical
Yes, the Elite would rather just work with the Neo-Liberals and their Leftist attack dogs at this point – since they are trying to overtly take down nations now. But if they have to step back, they can and will work with the fake conservatives. At the top, the Neo-Conservatives know the score and are on board. But that “knowing” evaporates very quickly below their level and they have to pretend to be patriots for their underlings.
De Santis may be sincere. Those backing him are not.
Trump has said even negative press is of value.
I can’t think of much more negative press than this.
msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-breaks-silence-on-desantis-re-election-victory-in-florida-governor-race-i-got-more-votes/ar-AA13XpDn?ocid=windirect&cvid=7469701c6a5e447da121f1204812a4c4
I wish he would put his fragile ego away once in awhile.
Do we see the Democrat party attacking each other like this?
Well only during campaigning like when Kamala Harris called Biden a racist.
Was she wrong?
Nope that might have been one of the only things she got right.
It’s too bad that “laying Trump [as a political force] to rest” probably also means giving up on every getting to the bottom of Russiagate.
Given what Trump went through as his adversaries went to the dark side to destroy his presidency, I can empathize with the internal seething fury that may well be . . .well, seething. It is a huge injustice, and he was not able to rise the challenge and overcome his adversaries. Even so, that does not let the latter off the hook. They seriously harmed the whole country in addition to Trump’s presidency.
But now history has moved on, Trump is in the rear window, DeSantis is in the driver’s seat, and Trump’s ego may prevent him from being any use whatsoever to either his party or his country.
Whereas, if he had any “elder statesman” potential, his experiences in the cross-hairs could be valuable to those who come after..
The problem with DeSantis (among the Tea Party/MAGA wing) is that he is getting endorsements from the wrong people — Jeb Bush, and other Uniparty criminals.
Many do not trust him.
Jury is out for me, as he has done nearly everything right in the face of the Covid tyranny.
Trump still refusing to budge on the clot shot should cost him the nomination, IMO. There is no logic to it whatsoever. He claims he never would have mandated it, but the very concept of a health mandate that crosses the line in terms of bodily autonomy is tyranny itself.
Jeb actually thought he could win without working class Whites. Not only is he a class tyrant but an utter fool. An endorsement from him is an albatross indeed.
Who endorses you does not matter in the end, unless they actually control you in addition to “endorsing” you.
If an endorser is a tar baby (as perhaps Trump now is), then it is up to you to control your messaging. If you are not up to the task of shpoaing your own image in today’s media universe, get out of the game.
Where you get the money to play the game, and what you do once you are in power, is what counts.
Whoops, that is supposed to be “shaping.”
…the very concept of a health mandate that crosses the line in terms of bodily autonomy is tyranny itself.”
LIke Lindsey Graham’s National Abortion Ban grift?
Your lie by omission of facts is why so many take exception to your posts.
There is no law at present and the can has been kick to a states right issue.
Like your hero being nominated for a bottomless Pinocchio tis seems to apply to you as well.
The bodily autonomy in a ban on abortion concerns the child, which has a right to autonomy.
Careful careful careful lockdown Don!!
The nation does not like Donald Trump. He lost the popular vote in 2016, the nation never wanted him in the first place. He lost the popular vote by even more in 2020 after the nation got sick and tired of him. Unfortunately the Republican party has taken on his personality so they now turned off the voters. The Republicans who did well are the ones who acted like traditional Republicans focusing on truth not lies, reality not delusions, and facts not conspiracy theories and misinformation. The election deniers pretty much got their clocks cleaned. This is warning shot to the Republican party. The nation is saying, “We need you to balance out the Democrats but we can’t trust you with power until you give up the extremism and start acting like real American again who believe in our nation and democracy.”
Trump actually got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. It’s just that somehow Biden got 81 million, or so they tell us.
If you want to believe that Biden really got more votes than any other candidate in history that is on you.
Paula,
Please show me where I said Biden got more votes than any other candidate in history? I never said that, not remotely. What I said if you read it again, was Donald Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and 2020, That’s a fact. It’s the electoral college that matters most in winning elections.
What about Fetter “man” (sloth). Did the people actually elect this Oaf right out of fairy tales?
The real fairy tales are raw and full of terror. They don’t sugar coat the idiocy of Oafs or Oaves. Think Hodor from Game of Thrones. At least Hodor was honest. All he ever said was “Hodor”. Fetterman drools out all kinds of nonsense.
If you lived in Pa, you would have voted for the Oaf, right?
81 million votes is unprecedented. Even Obama never reached that total. You didn’t have to say it, it is a fact that they claim that he got 81 million votes. If you believe he won, then you believe he got that.
This for a man who couldn’t fill a community center, even with covid-spaced seats?
It defies logic.
Is it a fact? Given the state of the voting system, I find it fascinating that you could make such a statement.
Really Night Owl? You say that they don’t claim that Biden got 81 million votes? They most certainly do. Personally I don’t believe it but that is what they claim.
Google it.
Another one posting in ignorance.
Kbird do some research and get back to us when you get a clue.
I suspect swimming in all the sewage has afflicted you with some serious malfunctions in cognitive ability.
The post isn’t addressed to you, you blithering idiot.
C’mon kbird.
This country’s peoples have been ruined by forty years of Deep State manipulation. Personal responsibility is a thing of the past. 50+% of the folks are socialistic, wanting the government to take care of them. Obama even stated that his ideal was European socialism.
Trump walks in in 2016 and sees a weakness, the rust belt. It happens that that is where a lot of electoral votes are. He won.
You think the RINOs are the answer? Never are traitors the answer, to either side. Look at Manchin right now, he thought he made a great deal with Biden, the liar. Well, he may lose his spot after Biden knifed him in the back.
Just read an article talking about Pence’s book. He describes a knife in the back situation with the Lincoln Project, who set him up on Jan.6 with info about how he could stop the certification. Yeah, RINOs, traitors to the cause of the independent people and champions of the Deep State.
It is the American people who have changed, they have gotten a dose of Trumpian responsibility and they hate it. Trump cannot win in 2024. The people will stop him.
You are wrong about election deniers. Most of the US voting systems are incapable of resolving 1 or 2%. Arizona is unbelievable. The Secretary of State is responsible for the proper operation of the voting system. Oh yeah, she is also running for office, conflict of interest. So what happens, the machines do not work, people running around town trying to find ones that do. How many folks gave up? iMHO, the end of the republic is approaching with each election cycle meaning less and less.
“Arizona is unbelievable. The Secretary of State is responsible for the proper operation of the voting system. Oh yeah, she is also running for office, conflict of interest.”
Oh, like Kemp in the 2018 mids, when he acted as S0fS and ran for Gov?
Actually, judging from the Monday/Tuesday morning quarterbacking, it looks like many power players in the Republican party are dumping Trump, including his press secretary.
And he’s responding in a way that doesn’t make him look good.
What a surprise the type A personality is raging over betrayal and losing.
He is responding in the manner he always has like an attack dog.
I’ve never been a big fan of attack dogs.
I worked with attorneys for too long, perhaps.
I like thinkers.
@mq
I have seen thinkers so held back by the acts of thinking through things they do nothing.
There are applications where one or the other is needed.
Sitting back while the enemy attack you are not a good look either.
Like it or not Democrats for years have seen anyone not in lock step as the enemy and Trump saw that and responded in kind.
That was needed and is still needed but knowing when to ignore someone is also needed.
Wee ben, The Mayor of Mar-a-Lardo cannot ‘put his fragile ego away’. At least with this MAGAt Doofus, we can know exactly what he’s planning…because he tells everyone, right out in the open.
“Donald Trump last night warned Ron DeSantis not to run against him in 2024, suggesting he could reveal damaging secrets about the Florida governor.”
telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/11/08/donald-trump-claims-has-dirt-ron-desantis-warns-not-run-2024/
HAPPY BIRTHDAY USMC!
247 years young. And counting.
SemperFi
(Bursting out of cake) Haaaappy birthday Mister Prrrresidentt LOL 😉
It looks like nobody is talking about COP27. Well get ready shpeeps. Not only will you have no electric power or food! Nope, that is not enough you racist crackers. Trillions of your dollars are going to be redistributed to poor climate victim countries. Obviously, this is not enough to atone for your sins of racism, sexism, and ableism (among so many others) but if it makes you suffer more it is a great start!
I posted about the creepy religious ceremony they were holding there. Yikes.
Ah yes, the Climate Repentance ceremony. Did you find any video of it?
No, I didn’t look. I was kinda afraid of what I’d find.
Link it Link it !! !!
SSL, it’s not ’til November 13th! You can plan an entire hosue party around it! LOL.
https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/mount-sinai-egypt-chrislam-climate-repentence-revival-meeting-united-nations-cop27/
Look at that URL “Now the end begins” what absolute sick fuckers.
Chrislam. Merge all the religions. Why not? These people don’t believe in anything.
I did just now see a video of a bank guy there at COP27 talking about how they will monetize nature.
They tell you: “Central banks are starting to understand nature has real value… Carbon we already figured out. Carbon is moving very quickly into a system where it’s going to be very close to a currency’ …
Next, ‘We start thinking about putting prices on water, on trees, on biodiversity … How do we start tokenizing?” Michael Sheren, Former Bank of England Advisor COP27 fookedfinancialsystem
The ultimate money grab. They are absolutely wetting themselves with excitement over this.
I will try to find a link. It was on Telegram, without a link.
Oh and look at this, where Mr. Sheren is affiliated:
https://www.hkgreenfinance.org/forum-bio/michael-sheren-2020/
A friend found the link: https://sociable.co/technology/carbon-currency-tokenizing-nature-cop27/
These people are so insane. Imagine thinking this is any sort of progress.
Laughable. They can’t stop themselves, and nobady else does.
Yes, we discussed this at least two years ago.
You are the carbon that must be reduced.
The Malthusian Depopulation and Control Cult.
It’s still going on, and they are doubling down, therefore I’m still discussing it.
As I was well over 2 years ago.
@Anthea: overpopulation
While I agree with some aspects of your stance on overpopulation (BTW a thoughtful analysis), I think you have overlooked a major consideration – human nature.
Maybe I’m too cynical, but I think the general Western population would never do what it must to sustain its present day population, let alone a greater number in the future. There’ll always be those who fight to accumulate much more than they need. I don’t know, but have we ever had a long-term society where people fairly distributed their resources? We are primates. We act like them. Sure, maybe on a small local scale we can live fairly.
Think about a world consisting of small villages. At some point some members of another village would want some of what the first village has, and conflict would ensue. In a just world everyone everywhere would cooperate to live the best they can. But that’s never happened, at least in an advanced civilization. Conflict is baked in our nature.
What can we do about the waste our society produces? Have we solved our micro-plastic problem? Do we have an effective water usage solution for what’s happening out west? Physical resources our highly technological civilization needs are limited. JHK thinks what will result is a much smaller population.
I think all our civilizational issues can ultimately be resolved and our population could increase safely. But realistically, what is the probability that will happen, given our species’ nature?
Western populations are already shrinking and getting close to zero replacement or are at negative replacement levels. Africa is where the mass population growth is occurring.
I don’t think Western populations are decreasing. Net migration is more than making up for the difference.
Yes, that is a true factoid. Which also proves that the Western climate cultists are worse than hypocrites.
In a different world they would become wicker men
But in this age they are rewarded with material riches while they condemn resource consumption.
What is the matter, can’t rich white women find surrogates so they don’t have to mess up their bodies having children?
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Kardashians do it and nobody sees anything wrong with it because they have the more money than god. Wealth makes right.
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Perhaps forcing brown people to pop out the babies should be tax deductible?
Your first paragraph made me think of the people in CA who during water restrictions simply ignored it, while all of their neighbors adhered to it. The scofflaws would have lush green lawns and didn’t GAF if anyone else liked it. Same with washing their cars – some weekly or even ever few days – almost to shove it in their neighbors’ faces that they didn’t care ’bout no drought, and water is theirs to waste because freedumb.
Yes, human nature plays into it alright.
I remember walking around the block in San Jose with my dad during the drought of 2014.
Yep, you could tell who the assholes were. Most every yard had dead grass or natural landscaping but the assholes had lush green monoculture lawns, clearly not just watered but also herbicided.
They also had giant clean and shiny pickup trucks with 4 foot beds, parked there in suburbia.
I find plenty of agreement as to what we could do to resolve some of our problems, but the stickler is always human nature. All of these plans and schemes presuppose a level of cooperation and rational self interest that isn’t to be found among humans.
One of my fundamental beliefs is that any plan or form of government that assumes a change in human nature is doomed. So, even if your plan is a great one and would absolutely work, my first question is: How much and in what ways are you willing to punish those who don’t go along with it? Keeping in mind that even where punishments have been truly draconian, as in the Soviet Union, there were still plenty of people who, sooner than obey, would rather chance being sent to the Gulag.
Yes, unfortunately, when we start talking about cooperation and mass compliance, people start to get nervous, for legitimate reasons.
It’s quite the dichotomy.
Mary, there are those that say cooperation and compliance are human nature and that rampant individualism is a consequence of our particular social atmosphere.
Caitlin Johnston even wrote an article about it today.
‘Separation Is The Largest Religion In The World; see caitlinjohnstone dot com.
My attitude is not to get lost in what human nature is. As humans we can do the right thing or the wrong thing. Our choice.
That is human nature.
When people say ‘but that goes against human nature, they usually are only justifying a belief they can’t explain.
Not that I worry, I have the heart of a dog.
Agree that our natural state is to want to be part of a community, to be helpful and to feel useful.
All of the things that the postmodernist bollocks teaches against.
Unless by “community” you mean “cult,” that is…
That’s exactly what I’m talking about. I went back to CA in 2015. Some people had actually replaced their front lawns with astroturf.
…or paint your concrete yard green.
The amount of concrete in cities is also ridiculous.
I’ve been thinking about planting clover or micro clover in my front yard as ground cover to replace the grass. Unfortunately, I live in a condominium so I’m supposed to get permission, but you know me. I’m just going to do it, fuck them anyway. It makes no sense to have grass, which needs cutting every few weeks. The Board of Trustees has spent over $300,000 this year on landscaping for the entire complex, and a large part of this is weekly (!) lawnmowing. The grass turns brown in July and/or August, we spend money on replacing dead lawn, as well as for fertilizer. Clover is pretty and doesn’t have the same issues as grass. It attracts bees and therefore is good for pollination. And once planted, not very much maintenance. But of course people assume they must have a grass lawn. I could tell you stories about how dumb they are about landscaping.
Smart move, go for it!
Yeah lawns are just ridiculous to start with, especially in areas that are basically desert. Like here.
Bill, don’t let the former HS hall monitors from your ball busting HOA Committee get wind of your plans, Bill. There will be hell to pay.
I love the idea of 60+ going after the HOAs, this might be the new suburban warfare.
IT seems like a huge portion of available resources, or perhaps that should be “surpluses,” have been used by humans and proto-humans to wage war.
Seems like this war making is hugely wasteful, but if we are hard-wired for it, perhaps it is not “wasteful” but part of the plan. Feature, not bug. It is the most powerful in any society that decide this use of resources and deploy the resources and use them to advance their own plans to be the most powerful.
Supposedly the UN was going to put a stop to this silly war making once and for all.
That certainly has not worked out. It’s back to the same old same old. The most powerful, jockeying for position, control the UN.
It seems like the only solution is to arrange a “balance of power” of some kind.
As long as this war making goes on, with the concomitant “waste” of resources, talk of carrying capacity seems empty/moot.
War making is humanity’s obesity.
@ beantownbill:
What you say is true. My suggested solutions are unlikely to happen. It’s kind of like saying that all human problems would be solved if we’d all be very, very good.
On the other hand, I think almost all proposals for population-reduction are Bad Ideas–probably with many unintended consequences. E.g., China’s one-child policy worked, but is this what we want?
For the past 70 years or so, the US has promulgated the view that we have an overpopulation problem–though the US doesn’t, and certainly didn’t in the 50s and 60s. Back in the 70s I knew young married couples who decided not to have children because of overpopulation. My brother and his wife were one such couple.
So we see that you can convince people to have few or no children through propaganda campaigns. It also seems obvious that you can decrease birth rates and famiy formation by promoting and glamorizing gay, trans, and LGBT, and by depicting marriage, kids, and family life as a drab, humdrum, boring, unglamorous existence. E.g., even before the LGBT stuff, we had TV shows like “Married with Children,” and the “King of the Hill” cartoon show. Meanwhile, media glamorized the “swinging singles” lifestyle–as with “Sex in the City.”
This has been going on for a long time, and, as I said, it does work. But I think we can see that–for us, at any rate–it is undesirable. It has apparently not been tried in countries that genuinely do have overpopulation problems, and probably would not work in, say, Africa. Middle Eastern countries are not going there. It hard to see it working in India, either.
What I’m saying is, while my thoughts on this are unworkable, I see no other approach that is not either equally unworkable–or worse. I see the whole discussion as fanciful–unless you’re okay with the CCP approach.
Frankly, I think white people of European extraction should have more children. Lots of children. And–even more frankly–I view people who self-select for genetic extinction as idiots. To do so is perhaps an indication that such people genuinely deserve a Darwin award. The are unfit, for that reason alone. For the love of God, how could a person possibly demonstrate any more “unfitness” than by deciding to eradicate themselves?
Genetic extinction?
Reproducing now is the equivalent of a Taino woman giving birth in 1492, a Jewish woman in Warsaw giving birth in 1939, an Accokeek woman giving birth in 1700.
I see no reason to offer up your children for sacrifice. It is not eradicating yourself, it is giving your babies to the evil bastards who will massacre them for profit.
Why would anyone do that for some bullshit belief in genetic domination?
This might all seem perfectly logical, but the “fact” is that the universal symbol of hope and humanity is the cry of a new baby amidst the ruins.
No one knows the future. People have always struggled to survive, all throughout human history. People have always experienced tragedy. If you don’t want to live in a tragic world, and don’t want to experience trials and suffering, you don’t want to live.
If you have kids, you will almost certainly see them experience suffering, and it will break your heart. This is life. Any choice in favor of life and living life is a choice to struggle and endure. I don’t know anyone who hasn’t had it tough. Do they wish they’d never been born?
You can’t evade or avoid life’s troubles without relinquishing life’s joys. To try to do so seems to me to be weakness and cowardice.
We recently went to a field in the city where my granddaughter played in a soccer match. Watching along the sidelines, we noticed no grass there, just micro clover. It looked great and was comfortable to walk on. That got me thinking.
What did you think about Bill?
I thought I like Bill. I’m pretty likable most of the time – until I get mad, which isn’t very often.
Seriously, That got me thinking it’s time to take some landscaping action, that’s all.
The Board of Trustees (on which I served as Chairperson – until I couldn’t – wouldn’t, actually) got a notice from our insurance company saying that some tree branches were too close to our buildings. They should be no closer than 4 feet away to prevent pests from getting into the buildings. Well, ok. But the landscapers chopped off branches at their base where they came off the trunks and ruined many, many trees, even ones that were in our courtyards 50’ or more away from any structures.That caused a lot of screaming and yelling by the homeowners. My neighbor, who I’ve known for 30 years, and is into plants, got violent with one of the landscapers. I don’t blame her. There are more stupid stories.
I’ve realized for many years our little development is just a small version of larger government.
After being active in my complex, I’ve now detached myself emotionally from participating in its affairs, and don’t attend meetings or anything else. To be blunt, fuck them all. I don’t want the aggravation.
@ beantownbill:
It seems weird, even to me, to find myself reminiscing about the little lake community I move from about a year ago. I drive by my old house every time I go into town, and get to imagining what these new residents will experience in the way of community life there–where you have an array of “charcters” ranging from living legends to assholes. When my buddy Mike died, I used to say, “A glory has passed away from the earth. When my neighbor Laura died I used to say that if I knew where she was buried, I’d piss on her grave. When my neighbor John, died the neighbors gathered to speak ill of the dead for an hour or so.
The new residents will never know Mike and Lola and Helen and Frankie and Curtis. They will probably get to know Freddy–a good, good guy–and Ron, and maybe Kevin and Emily. (Nobody knows Nick. He won’t talk to anyone because he thinks everyone is after his wife.)
I had plenty of trouble from plenty of people at the old digs, but I now look back on the twenty years I lived there with great tenderness. The new residents are in for more fun than a barrel of monkeys. To me, they seem equal to the challenge.
LOL, well you do have a high likability score Bill!
Ugghh what a bureaucratic nightmare. I can totally understand your malaise in that environment. Micro clover does sound really neat. I feel like I am in a constant battle with st augustine grass in my yard. It grows all year and has runners that will creep across walkways and the driveway so fast.
Mutual aid and cooperation aren’t utopian. They are our last best chance. Let the dominant hierarchy drown in hypocrisy, fear, and greed.
We will use our energy and passion to create a new way to be.
Well said. I concur.
“The Flemish government is considering proposals to cancel its membership of the World Economic Forum due to the globalist organization’s anti-democratic views.”
https://newspunch.com/dutch-government-preparing-to-cancel-world-economic-forum-membership-we-are-a-sovereign-nation/
It begins. At long last.
Night Owl,
The article complains about how much the Flemish government pays to be at Davos, But exactly what is the complaint about that? The sum presented comes up to less than I’ll guess, your net worth. Mine for sure. I’m an average guy too. Talk of the money only exposes the authors bias. That bias may be the same as ours but ranting about rent money makes no point. The author would complain if the sum were a dollar. A personal problem.
Davos – The same people who bring us the shitshow will not be those who have a damn thing to say about solutions. In a perfect world anyway. Fuck Bono.
Nice spin.
My net worth is more than the fee. I am not surprised yours is not.
Deliberately misread or are you just fucking dumb, NHM?
“The sum presented comes up to less than I’ll guess, your net worth. Mine for sure.“
Wait ’til they actually do it…
Let’s see if they get attacked and suddenly ‘reconsider’.
Anyone calling out the WEF is to be congratulated. To worry about the fact that they mentioned the fee and that the fee is trivial is I think missing the point.
First of all, I actually didn’t know that entities or people or organizations pay a fee to be part of the WEF. Focusing on the fee paid does I think place clearly before the people that the WEF is not some kind of benevolent organization but it in fact—and not metaphorically—a club.
If i were Flemish, the obvious question would be Why the hell should our proviince pay a cent to belong to the WEF?
Why should my taxes go toward a transnational foreign organization that is attempting to infiltrate my own government? Who made this decision? Was it made openly, via a democratic vote?
The WEF likes the world to see it as some kind of benevolent circle of the elders, or some such. They are dangerous grifters. That’s it.
The Flemish seem to have called them out.
Just as Danielle Smith in Alberta has “surfaced” the WEF by openly telling the WEF to get out of Dodge and leave her province alone.
Also of interest IMO is the possibility that the Flemish action might open a few Dutch eyes in the NL itself.
Many politicians in NL know what is going on. There are several videos of parliamentarians calling out Rutte and a few others.
The farmer protests are still going on as well, and are quite large.
It is good to see cracks appearing. WEF should be the main target, as they are the public face of nearly all of the corruption exposed in the past 3 to 4 years.
Have you seen the ballot measures they passed in NYC on Tuesday?
No.
I asked Night Owl, but Ok.
Somebody upstream mentioned not much publicity surrounding this COP27 shindig in Cairo. I believe there are two reasons for that. One, not a lot of western protesters in the streets blocking traffic, holding up banners, dressed in oddball costumes while shouting slogans and making crazy demands. This sort of activity just would not go over very well in Cairo, a city barely out of the 3rd world. Heads would be cracked, coeds from London & NYC would raped in grimy, arcane back alleys, and people would disappear in the kasbar, never to be seen again. IOW, no free wheeling anything goes party atmosphere like last year in Scotland. A second reason is the nexus of the event, which is for White western nations to pay Climate Reparations to the 3rd world, $100 billion per year until the end of time. For some poor bloke in Maine or Nothern England who can’t afford to heat his house or put gas in his truck this winter that won’t set too well. Thus the decision by Western Elites & 3rd world grifters to keep everything on the down low.
The global south has to keep scraping by as best they can until lack of gas freezes the poor bloke in Maine or Northern England to death.
Sucks to be them. Sucks to be a poor bloke in Maine or Northern England too.
Maniacs are pretty tough. They’re used to the cold.
ahhhhh The norse berserker, thank you for reminding me.
Well, they have plenty of firewood up there.
I read in the state of NY woodstoves are becoming illegal. Could that possibly be true?
What about the thousands of Somali’s taking up residence in Maine. I’ll bet they rue the day they picked Maine on a bitter cold and blustery January day. Then again most probably don’t pay for heat so there is that. Crank up the heat, Ahmed.
With their exorbitant birthrates, the Somalis in Maine are clearing doing something else together (“wink, wink”) to keep warm during the winter months.
When they arrived in Lewiston they didn’t know how to wear trousers.
Somalis would attempt to burn wood inside gas stoves, causing explosions. You can’t blame them, a primitive people dumped in Polar Maine by the US State Department.
But what about summer, when You feel like you’re in some dark, African jungle?
The drums are probably loudest in summer, no?
I picked potatoes for fifty cents a barrel on a farm in Limestone, in 1952, as the B-36s from Loring (Limestone) AFB, where my dad was stationed, roared overhead. About ten percent of the taters were rotten, and did they smell. The farmer barely spoke English and looked like a model for those get-sewed-up-in-your-long johns-in-October-and-don’t-take-them-off-until-April icons.
A couple of years before it closed, Loring AFB was also the site of some exciting (scary) action, when UFOs were reported persistently loitering over the nuclear weapons bunkers. “You didn’t see anything, it never happened, say anything about this and you’ll be in Fort Leavenworth before sunrise.”
The one and only UFO I ever spotted was at Long Lake, in northern Maine. A fireball, moving almost horizontal. I was 11 and easily impressed.
That was me BRH. I mentioned it.
So I guess even lotteries like the Powerball are guilty of systemic racism now. When will the insanity end?
www (dot) msn (dot) com/en-us/news/us/lottery-accused-of-systemic-racism-after-massive-powerball-payout/ar-AA13WE8R
There isn’t much not guilty of Systemic Racism, CB81. Try to find something.
Why?
Did a white person win the Powerball?
That would seem to be statistically likely, since whites (still) make up the largest portion of the US population . . .
Poor bastard, whoever he might be. The curse of riches…
All that is required is a bit of self-control, Nut.
An uncommon trait in your world.
Very likely all this “insanity” y’all are talking about will end after half the country is dead from starvation and the the other half are beyond angry and are able to accept secession, the dissolution and collapse of the USA, and decide move on to build a sane society based on reality. It will be very poor one, but perhaps a functioning one.
The beauty of winning billions is you no longer have to care if anyone calls you a racist.
Joe says he is confused as to how or even why he would be impeached.
I listened to the Progressive radio station on XM today for about an hour and the talk show pundit went on and on about how evil the Republicans are going to be for making up an impeachable offense for Biden.
It is amazing how out of touch these people are as the inform everyone how misinformed we all are.
Even the Chinese know Bidens days a re numbered.
The Chinese Communist Party is expecting Joe Biden to get impeached as a result of these past midterm elections.
In its analysis on Wednesday, the official CCP newspaper Global Times said that a Republican majority in the House would launch several investigations into Biden which would likely lead to his impeachment.
The Global Times warns that Republicans will now do to Biden “what Nancy Pelosi” and the Democrats did to Trump.
The Chinese Communist Party says it expects more political chaos, instability and hostility toward China coming out of Washington.
Tian Wei, a columnist at China Global Television Network (CGTN) made a statement.
“The question to this part of the world seems to be whether the political parties are going to use China as a tool in their party vice,” Wei said. “Those within the party and between the parties, we see that already in the competition. Quote on quote, the four political glamour in the U.S. Parliament over the past few years.”
This comes as Republicans are projected to win back the House and possibly the Senate, as vote counting continued Wednesday afternoon.
Some very interesting info. about the machine manipulation coming out right now.
Just listened to an interview with Mike Lindell.
Referring to the midterms.
Oh, how the mighty haughty have fallen!
You’ve always INSISTED on ‘proof’ but you’ve been reduced to listening to Pillow Guy and you take him seriously. Hardy-fucking-har har.
LOL! What is he making now, fur lined jock straps?
Yes, I do insist on proof. Always.
Knowing the Republicans, even the House may not vote to impeach. Conviction in the Senate won’t happen.
What good does dragging Biden through the mud do? Payback?
If there even was a conviction, Harris becomes president.
Well, a final insult to the land of cutthroats and pirates….
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/woke-gender-britishairways/2022/11/10/id/1095835/
British Airways now allows their pilots, male ones, to dress as females, wearing skirts.
Alba might consider this a non-issue, considering men wearing them in her country of origin.
…Is it true what they say about not wearing underwear under a kilt?
Inquiring minds NEED to know….
People mostly only wear kilts at weddings or for regimental displays and whatnot. Although my English-born nephew who lives near Liverpool (England) wears his kilt when he comes up to Glasgow for a Rangers match, I’m told.
Strikes me it’s a bit windy here for risking a kilt without knickers, so I imagine it is just a longstanding urban myth. I can’t speak for what the clans wore before knickers were a thing. I’d imagine some sort of loincloth would be in order if you were clambering about in the bracken and thistles. I think they mostly wore trousers anyway.
The modern tartan kilt is an invention of Walter Scott, who put on a display of tartan kitch to welcome George IV to Edinburgh in 1822.
Kilts remind me of what they show the Roman soldiers wearing in all those movies.
I will have to defer to you, as I’ve never looked or asked. 🙂
And they were knickerless in Braveheart when they were mooning the English before the battle, so it must be true. History.
And now a ‘knock, knock’ joke from my childhood is pushing its way into my consciousess: Knock, knock. Who’s there? Nicholas …
That was meant to go below Speedy and Slugoon.
efield:
There is a notorious portrait of a squad of Scots soldiers posing for the camera. The front row is seated and next to a beaming Queen E. is one fellow with a slight manspread so you can get a panoramic view of his genitals.
Smile for the birdie.
I once took part in a ceilidh where I picked up my Scottish friend and span him around. I’ve never seen somebody’s hands move so quickly, in his case to hold his kilt down, so in this instance I think the myth was probably reality!
Just suppose. It’s Fetterman vs. Trump in 2024. Yeah, yeah, totally outrageous.
Who would win though?
Fetterman, hands down. Read the national ‘room’, consider the legions of woke, the brainwashed electorate, the baggage of Trump that would sink a giant container ship.
Fett would be another puppet for Obama, who’s shoving his radical transformation right down America’s throat and right up its ass!
Sad fact is, he won’t be stopped. Black power is waiting in the wings. We have no real fight, only a red ripple against a gigantic blue tsunami on the border, in our educational system, in our military and in our government.
Fetterman is not a candidate. He was not who was selected. First.
Elections in Pennsylvania are definitely rigged. But whether he won fair and square is not of any matter to your point so forgive me for the digression. Like the Brandon entity, Fetterman is too an entity. He is the face? of a cadre of hidden handlers. Maybe the same handlers that puppeteer Biden? And ultimately the corrosion you speak of will dissolve the remaining notion of the United States. Which, even at this time is ultimately a hoax too. Because a country has definable, actual, defended borders.
TS does not believe in rigged elections.
Joe Joe Magoo won fair and square, regardless of the evidence presented.
And the Coroneau shots are good for you. Get your bivalent booster, you racist Russian conspiracy theorist!
Lying, shameless putz, still licking his anus!
Is Trump president yet?
You’re a liar night gnat and deserve what you get.
I guess I could have said Daffy Duck. The poor showing by Republicans hit me right between the eyes, didn’t think it would be that bad. Too much of our electorate is dangerous and demented.
I thought that the border issue alone might carry the day, but no. Then there’s the economy along with energy policies.
I believe that too many people think that the Dems are more ‘down with the folks’ than Republicans.
It might just be that the abortion issue caused many more to think so.
Get ready for a great Thanksgiving, still a lot to be thankful for, that’s what I’m going to do.
Nope all they need do is wheel out the black jogger Fettermen ran after and held at gun point.
Racism for sure.
I knew a woman who cured herself of shingles by taking Echinacea. She started out taking the recommended dose of a purchased tincture, which wasn’t doing much good. So she downed the whole bottle (probably a one-ounce bottle), which effected a cure.
If it was a one ounce bottle like herb pharm offers, thats 70 eyedroppers full.
or 2000 drops I guess.
I once drank some vegetable juice and soon vomited. My stomach could not take it.
Ummmmmm ooookay
@ malthus:
I’d consider the right dose of echinacea tincture to be at least one tablespoonful, or maybe two. So roughly half an ounce. That will knock out a toothache, usually in a day or two. It will knock out a UTI in a couple of hours, but you have to take follow-up doses or it will come back.
I don’t think vegetable juice will help shingles. So, all that suffering for nothing.
He may have thought the vitamin C in the juice would help though. But he may have not even have had shingles and was just sharing an experience in addition to the other point.
Tucson …Fetterman reminds me a bit of Jesse Ventura in appearance, dress and swagger. It would be a hoot to watch him duke it out w/ Donny in 2024. Too bad Jesse never did have the desire or wherewithall to really make a go of it w/ the Independent party. He’s no dummy…made his point and got the hell outta dodge.
Ha, I can see the resemblance even with the stroke. It would be something, wouldn’t it? I’d probably be laughing more than crying.
Jesse vs. Trump, now that would have been a ‘donnybrook’!
Navy, underwater demolition, wrestler, governor. What a guy!
Not enough like him.
Jesse pushed quite a few “conspiracy theories,” IIRC.
Your bag now?
You are so busy acting that you are not even remotely consistent.
Well, hello everyone from Puerto Vallarta.
Boy, have I got a beef that a lot of you will enjoy. Two weeks ago, the wife and I got Quadravale to flu shots.
Ummmmmm whut
Good lord. We got quadravalent flu shots.
Then we flew down here, got off and spent 60 minutes standing in wrap around lines going through Mexican customs. Zero masks lots of face to face contact. Monday.
You have probably guessed it. Wednesday, walking downtown I felt an itch in my nose, slight nausea. By evening, full fledged flu, low grade fever, aches and pains everywhere, sneezing, runny nose, worse at night, smeller still works, today, better but violent sneezing, runny nose, low grade fever treated with advil.
Anyway, total failure of flu shot. Maybe because we are here not in Arizona. The wife is fine.
No, I did not guess any of that.
Johnaz,
Are you sure it’s not Covid? I just went through the same thing, thought it was the flu or a bad cold, but it ended up being covid. Tons of sneezing and runny nose, low grade fever…
How did you know it was “covid”? Since the tests are bullshit.
John AZ, why would take extra unnecessary shots of any kind? I doubt I’ll ever do another tetannus. I doubt I’ll ever enter a doctor’s office again.
Puerto Vallarta, wow i bet it is absolutely beautiful there and the weather is amazing. That sucks that you are feeling bad. Well it sounds like you are in good spirits. Maybe you should swim in the warm Pacific and the salt water will heal you.
Hiya, SSL. Actually the ocean is cold, unlike the Atlantic. Maybe the sun will do the job.
Wow, even that far south the water is cold?
I thought the water was warm in Southern California.
Is there a cold stream of some kind that affect water temp on the Mexican coast?
Cold?
The swimming season in this location lasts all year round. Average annual water temperature on the coast in Puerto Vallarta is 80°F, by the seasons: in winter 75°F, in spring 76°F, in summer 85°F, in autumn 84°F. Minimum water temperature (71°F) in Puerto Vallarta it happens in January, maximum (87°F) in July.
Damn near bathtub water all year roud.
Two weeks ago, the wife and I got Quadravale to flu shots.
Good Gawd, JAZ, you must have “I’m a dumbass, feel free to beat me” tattooed on your forehead.
By the way, the same shit is going around up here in NM, although if I had a low grade fever it was indeed low grade. Starts out with a slight sore throat that subsides in 24 hours or so, productive constant sneezing out the yinyang, which turns into an equally productive non-stop cough. Mine turned into bronchial pneumonia shortly after that. I’m on the third day of antibiotics now and I can finally sleep at night again. Worst chest cold by far I’ve had in years, but I have had a few that were it’s equal. Convid has just convinced us now that routine shit like this – bad as it is – is somehow much worse. That’s the true insidious nature of this Convid nonsense. Its turned us into a nation of hypochondriacs who go running to the drug companies for “miracle vaxxes,” at the first sign of trouble.
Well, hello everyone from Puerto Vallarta.
I take it you’ve got serious money. You sure do a lot of jetting around. You’re not gonna like what comes next at all.
JAZ…are we having fun yet?
Is everyone finished moving the midterm election deck chairs around on our sinking ship?
I think so. It is time for a new article. I published one a few minutes ago which you can get to by clicking on my name. Green names are links. Mine actually goes somewhere.
When I have Thursdays off work I can publish before JHK does if the moon and stars line up.
I read your article, K-Dog. I agree with you about tech worship, but the card is just a social credit system – from which I would benefit as I don’t have a car at all. Nor do I fly, but there was no mention of that or of the many domestic fuel uses.
I agree with you about tech worship, but the rest is pretty much what the WEF have in mind for us, starting ASAP, except that they have a flying start over your system, as they intend to remove 90% of us from the equation over the coming 7 or 8 years. Including you.
They also have the advantage, in that their system is more tightly controlled. You will roll up at the ‘gas’ station and, if you’re over your limit for the month, you will simply not get any ‘gas’. Or electricity, if your vehicle is electric. No personal decisions involved. You will not be required to trouble your pretty little head about anything – they will take the strain (along with everything you used to think you owned).
Apols for repetion of the ‘tech worship’ bit – my comment disappeared and came back half written and I missed that.
So Chien, what’s your position on Convid now that you’ve lived through it and realize (or should) that it was all a hoax? You were quite the hyper-ventilator as I recall when it first came out.
During the last year, I felt that the Dems never seemed to be too concerned about anything. The blog wanted them to be scared, Fox News wanted them to be scared, but nope, never happened. The GOP pundits told us that it was going to be a wipeout like all off year elections, nope!
The Dems know something. Either they are so entrenched at the bridge over between the local and Deep State that there is no way they can be dislodged
Or
The locals have a way of polluting the results so no one can beat them.
The last option is that the American people are so dependent now on the government for handouts that the big deal, inflation was not a table issue as much as thought.
Two flips in the Senate, maybe one more big whoop. Kevin McCarthy relishing taking the gavel from Pelosi is now sweating taking the Speakership, stabbed in the back by his own Freedom Caucus, AKA Lincoln boys. The GOP is not a United party and that maybe another reason.
DC is toxic, controlled by the Mob, and undermining the USA people.
Veterans Day.
Today is the day that all veterans bemoan what this country has turned into and the ones under the turf all roll over.
America is the worst thing we invested our time and efforts into.
No kidding this country has become a joke and freak show.