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Hostage Racket

     Not to put too fine a point on it, but didn’t that cunning rogue Chief Justice John Roberts pour a jug of Karo syrup into the gas tank of America’s twelve trillion cylinder engine? Or, put another way (forgive the metaphor juke), didn’t he just give President Obama enough rope to hang himself? Out to dry, that is. Roberts must know exactly what he is doing: prompting x-million young and/or poor voters to an election year tea party tax revolt. The Obama health care reform will henceforth be defined as a tax against people too economically strapped to buy health insurance – in other words, a gross injustice, courtesy of Obama.
     Or call it a poison pill. Obama gets to brag that the heart of his 2700-page reform package stands – at the expense of the very people it was designed to protect. Forget about the niceties regarding the interstate commerce clause and other chatter points. This was all about Chief Justice Roberts interfering in a presidential election in a most mischievous way. He might as well have just heated up a branding iron that spelled out T-A-X and applied it to Mr. Obama’s forehead.
    Of course, with or without the so-called reform, the American health care system remains a hostage racket. When you are sick, you will do anything to get better, and the system knows it. You will sign onto any agreement to keep yourself alive, even if the health care system ends up taking your house and your children’s educations. It is a well-established fact that the chief cause of personal bankruptcy in the USA is unpayable medical bills on the part of people who have health insurance. It is considered bad manners to inquire of a surgeon what his fee might be for a life-saving operation. Anyway, you don’t want to know because it will be a figure with no anchor in the reality of hours spent or services rendered. Ditto the folks who run the hospital, where there is no reality-based relationship between things dispensed and prices charged. It’s simple racketeering and true health care reform would be the vigorous application of Department of Justice attorneys on the doctors, pharma companies, insurers, hospitals, and HMOs who are engaged in routine, systematic swindling. But the truth is, we don’t want to remove the swindle and the grift, we just want to find some way to get the American public to pay for their own shakedown.
     Before you get too exercised over the multiple idiocies and injustices of the current American medical situation just reflect for a moment that the whole creaking system cannot possibly survive no matter what the Supreme Court might have ruled or whatever Obama sought to accomplish. The US economic system is about to blow up. The banking sector has been kept technically alive on the life-support of accounting fraud since 2008, but that artful racket is coming to an end because sooner or later the abstraction called “money” must make truthful representations of itself in relation to reality, or else people cease to accept its claims of value. Without a functioning banking system none of the rackets organized into US health care can continue.
     The eventual destination of health care, like everything else in society categorically, is a much smaller, more modest, more local scale of operation. We’ll be lucky if the people with medical expertise can reorganize the wreckage of the system into something resembling small local clinics with all the costly and pernicious racketeering bureaucracy peeled off it. The insurance companies will be in the elephants’ graveyard of failed institutions. Let’s hope the doctors and their support staff remember to wash their hands.
     A couple of side notes:
     Anyone seeking to understand the deplorable physical condition of the general public need only stroll through the supermarket aisles and see the endless stacks of manufactured sugary shit that pretends to be food in this culture. That whole matrix is coming to and end, too, by the way, but probably not soon enough to save the multitudes programmed into metabolic disorder. They will just have a shorter life-span, aggravated by loss of income in a cratering economy and everything that comes with being impoverished. The doctors themselves by and large know almost nothing about nutrition, and make no organized effort to militate against the homicidal processed food industry – which brings me to the second side note. 
     Namely, that the diminishing returns of extreme bureaucratization and turbo-specialization in medicine has only made the doctors generally stupider and more inept. My own situation is a case in point. For two years I suffered an array of peculiar symptoms ranging from numb hands to supernatural fatigue. My ex-GP showed no interest in investigating the cause. Even my request for a toxicology workup was essentially shrugged off.  I had to become my own doctor. For a while I suspected Lyme disease, which is raging in my corner of the country. I went to see a Lyme specialist who didn’t accept insurance (because the insurance companies did not recognize his aggressive treatment protocols as falling within the current “standards of practice” – and this because the medical establishment doesn’t know its ass from a hole in the ground about Lyme disease).
     Anyway, I asked the Lyme specialist to include a test for cobalt levels in my bloodwork because I thought there was an outside chance I had cobalt poisoning. The reason I thought this was because Google searches of my symptoms kept pointing to metal-on-metal hip replacement failure. I had gotten just such a metal-on-metal hip replacement in 2003. The hardware was developed because the orthopedists wanted to give younger patients a longer-lasting implant. That’s when the diminishing returns of technology stepped in and kicked everybody’s ass, including mine. 
     My cobalt blood test came back off-the-charts high. (My many Lyme tests all came back negative.) Wouldn’t you know, though, that the Lyme specialist wanted to treat me for Lyme anyway. He ignored the cobalt numbers and wrote out a prescription for $400 worth of antibiotics. He was the proverbial guy with a hammer to whom everything looked like a nail. I declined that course of treatment and instead went to my new GP for a first appointment and asked for an additional cobalt test, along with one for chromium. (My hip implant is an alloy of titanium, cobalt, and chromium.) They both came back way over the toxic level.  Apparently, the rotation of the metal joint has been shedding metal ions into my system for nine years.
     Next I went to the orthopedic surgeon who put the implant in. He ordered an MRI and xrays and appeared rather concerned. Eventually I was routed to yet another orthopedic surgeon who specializes in “revising” hip implant failures – in particular ones of the type I have, which have been failing at such a staggering rate that the lawyers have assembled one of the greatest litigation feeding frenzies in history. They are going after the manufacturers of these devices.
     I have health insurance but I am quite sure that I will be soaked for many thousands of dollars beyond the coverage to resolve this problem, which will involve at least the changing out of the terminal bearings of my implant – if I am lucky. In the meantime, I have to become exactly the kind of pain-in-the-ass patient who asks too many questions so I don’t end up crippled, or dead, or taken for ride like a purloined human ATM machine. I suppose I am also lucky that this happened to me soon enough to even have this kind of remedial surgery. Another year or two and I would have just steadily turned purple and croaked like some poor 19th century foundry worker.
     There’s an excellent chance that I will be on the operating table at the same moment that another financial
crisis erupts, one that will be orders of magnitude worse than the 2008 Lehman collapse. Won’t that be something? I hope that the surgeon and the anesthesiologist, and whoever else happens to be on hand, don’t all run out of the room at once to call their investment managers while I’m lying there inert, like a boned-out Thanksgiving turkey. Pray for my ass. I’m a hostage in the system.
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592 Responses to “Hostage Racket”

  1. Leibowitz Society July 2, 2012 at 8:53 am #

    Both political sides want a solution to solve health care, but the problem is that modern medicine is a product of excess material wealth and is going to vanish as we enter into collapse mode. Keep yourself healthy, don’t overeat and depend on medicine to save you, and understand that lifespans are going to become more realistic again as we enter the new Dark Age.
    Visit the Leibowitz Society at http://leibowitzsociety.blogspot.com/2012/07/downshifting.html for more information and discussion related to our ongoing collapse and new Dark Age.

  2. Cabra1080 July 2, 2012 at 8:55 am #


  3. Moondog July 2, 2012 at 9:06 am #

    Pray? Did you say pray for your ass? You claim to eschew such magic and wishful thinking with a vengeance, so I will not take you literally on this. Let the Great Unraveling proceed with careful planning, rational solutions, and reality-based actions. Breathe, think, do.

  4. ozone July 2, 2012 at 9:08 am #

    Mr. James,
    I’ve always wondered through what channels the “honorable” Judge Roberts receives his orders. If you should find out from anonymous but credible sources (and can avoid getting “kettled” after a speaking engagement), please give us a peek inside the machinery!
    -The guy with no excuse (Ignorance of “da laww” and all that…)

  5. xport July 2, 2012 at 9:10 am #

    Too funny! But it is no joke. Any time you visit a doctor or dentist, they don’t ask you how you are feeling, they ask you how you will pay. No insurance, go home and die.

  6. Cabra1080 July 2, 2012 at 9:11 am #

    Eat like your ancestors did, fresh veggies, meats, nuts, etc. and avoid the “center aisles” of the supermarket – those containing all the processed junk.
    Exercise daily, meditate, live within means, be thankful, drink water, provide selfless service to others and spend time with family.
    Take health care into your own hands by, well, caring for your health…

  7. scarlet runner July 2, 2012 at 9:15 am #

    Dear God, please restore to health, any way you see fit, the heavy metal ravaged, semi-biblical prophet and crank JHK. Amen!

  8. sprezzatura July 2, 2012 at 9:16 am #

    I’m Canadian, and thank my lucky stars for our health care system. I like to joke that the difference between American and Canadian health care systems is that in the U.S., health care costs can make you go broke. In Canada, the taxes to support out health care system make us go broke.
    I’m almost through reading my advance copy of “Too Much Magic”. I recommend it – Kunstler is as eloquent and perceptive as ever. I was intrigued by “Demand Destruction” – how oil prices may fall because of a permanent decline in demand, below the level for Tar Sands break-even – the worst of both worlds.

  9. TrE July 2, 2012 at 9:16 am #

    It’s great to hear you figured out what’s going on, but I don’t think you mentioned here whether you’ve achieved any relief from the fatigue and numbness. Hope you have—or, at least, that finally figuring out the cause provides some relief. Through your writing you’ve come to seem like a friend to many of us. Know that we’re out here pulling for you, even though we’ll probably never meet.
    Too Much Magic was great, especially the first and last chapters, and we now look forward to the third & fourth World Made By Hand novels. It has actually occurred to me (and this isn’t an exaggeration) that I hope they become available before publishing as we know it disappears altogether. Others (mom, best friend) have said the same thing.
    Side note: I recently learned your podcast is ending, and hope the existing episodes get archived for us to enjoy again and share with others. Also look forward to you sharing new places your curiosity takes you; architecture and the economy may only be your first and second acts.

  10. Moondog July 2, 2012 at 9:17 am #

    My duo was playing at a local restaurant as the praying and preaching went on outside, harassing patrons until the police came along and sent them away for using the profane word, “hell” (not for telling everyone they were going to hell, which was the offense here). Poor ten-year old kid preaching had really drunk all of the kool-aid (what child wouldn’t?). We took our acoustic guitars out and tried to drive away these forces of hate and darkness, with our renditions of “Imagine” and “Losing My Religion.” The local gendarmes took care of the rest. They did not post video of our singing, but got their “Jesus spewing us out like vomit” message out thee. Praise the puke, sinners!

  11. rhbrandon July 2, 2012 at 9:17 am #

    (1) It does appear that Chief Justice Roberts opted for the poison pill approach rather than the third-world authoritarian super-veto crony approach preferred by Justice Scalia et al.
    (2) Glad your medical tests came back negative on Lyme. That disease is a bear. Sorry about the likely joint replacement, though. My dad just had cataract surgery on his eye, and, even though he has Medicare, he’s still getting dunned for the surgery. Think it’s sorted out now, but it was bothering him. What a bunch of leeches: hope your experience won’t be as troublesome.

  12. Bob Wise July 2, 2012 at 9:21 am #

    Glad to hear you’re making progress, or at least getting more information, on your symptoms! Congratulations on your new GP; I’d ask for a referral if I didn’t live a thousand miles away. Stuff happens: my wife had to have knee surgery redone, after being sold on a “half-knee” replacement by an over-enthusiastic orttho surgeon.

  13. drywitt July 2, 2012 at 9:28 am #

    Thought I had food poisoning just before a 1,000 mile return trip (through Nevada), so went to an emergency room to get checked for e. coli. Was given an anti-nausea pill (from a sample pack…eventually billed at $375), many tests (including an MRI!) and decided to get the hell out of there. Over the course of my eight hour stay, I realized I was one of the few patients not sporting handcuffs, lied about feeling much better (I wasn’t), and eventually escorted from the ER to the parking lot by the admitting physician (who was a dead ringer for Rod Steiger’s Mister Joyboy character from “The Loved One”). It took me three days to complete the drive home.
    A month later, I received a bill for $13,000. After many adjustments, insurance paid $1,200 and I coughed up about $1,400. Never get sick in Indio, CA.

  14. Belisarius July 2, 2012 at 9:32 am #

    Good luck in your “combat” with the doctors. Just as likely to kill as real combat and you pay for the privilege.
    As for “da judge”, he has just legalized government financial tyranny. Yes we had some before; but now, following his logic, government can order you to do anything it wants, and tax you to death for noncompliance. Welcome to “Everything not forbidden is mandatory!” part one.

  15. Pete July 2, 2012 at 9:33 am #

    James, you may want to look into chelation therapy or find a doctor who knows about it. There are many ways to pull heavy and toxic metals out of your body. Since I am not a doctor I will not name specifics here.
    Best of luck. Get and stay healthy so you can keep up your valuable commentaries!

  16. budizwiser July 2, 2012 at 9:33 am #

    I am so sorry to hear about your hip and poisoning issues. I know some one who has a hip of the same vintage and they had told me it is a “titanium” hip.
    I wonder – if what has happened is true and as factual as you have reported – then surely there must be a “class action” suit festering some where involving seven-figure payouts for several law partners.
    Can you supply the AMA device codes as well as manufacturer’s model part serial numbers?
    Yeah – OK , well anyway – I hope the new screed does well. I’ve been in discussions with some notables about just how and why the few mature people of a civilization never have much chance of leading it.
    I guess greed and hedonism – along with stupidity and complacency pretty much continue until they don’t.

  17. Phutatorius July 2, 2012 at 9:35 am #

    Aren’t all of our asses hostages in the system? It’s just that facing such an impending procedure brings it home in such a palpable way. We’ll “hold you in the light,” as the Quakers like to say.

  18. lsjogren July 2, 2012 at 9:35 am #

    Interesting stuff. The failure of the practitioners to identify the Cobalt problem reminds me of the time my landlady had a medical crisis, went in, and it took them hours to figure out she had appendicitis, and apparently they only figured out because some practitioner who wasn’t even working her case suggested, hey, maybe she has appendicitis.
    She indicated she would likely have died if they had gone much longer without figuring it out.
    As to the political ramifications of Roberts’ ruliing- well it strikes me as a bit farfetched but certainly not the most absurd take on the ruling which I would have to award to George Will.
    A right wing revolt by youth- who knows, I guess it’s possible. The gofer at Enterprise rent a car who gave me my ride home one time told me he was into the Occupy movement and also his politician of choice was Ron Paul. It is a little hard for me to see how you can simultaneously embrace a movement devoted to radical expansion of government and then like a politician who is committed to the radical shrinkage of government. Although, there are a few points of common ground in terms of marijuana legalization, opposition to bank bailouts, and military nonintervention.

  19. Neon Vincent July 2, 2012 at 9:37 am #

    Wow, Jim, you’ve outdone yourself this week, connecting the Supreme Court’s ruling on the Affordable Care Act to the flawed health care system, the critically ill (and possibly terminal) financial system, and your own health. You need to remember one thing–health insurance is part of the financial system. There are reasons why that sector of the economy is called “FIRE”–Finance, Insurance, and Real Estate. Add in real estate, and all of your major concerns are tied together. Isn’t that convenient?
    Also, I’m subscribed to the Aspen Institute’s YouTube channel and they’ve been posting videos from their recent conference that you blogged about last week over the past few days. I’ve been checking to see if you appear, but so far no luck–only two clips of you from 2008. Should I keep hoping to see a video of you on stage?
    I did blog about the Supreme Court deliberating on the Affordable Care Act, but both of those were before the decision, not after. I have some quotes from three people at SUNY Buffalo and SUNY Upstate Medical Center in Syracuse to include in a post. How interesting that, added to you, all of them are from Upstate New York. I guess I know what I’m blogging about today.
    In addition to writing about health care policy, I’ve been following the upcoming primary here in Michigan. The Detroit Regional Chamber (of Commerce) endorsed their candidates last week. They actually have a clue, as they want people who will create a regional transportation network that includes light rail and commuter rail. No surprise, most of the candidates they endorsed were not corn pone fascists who think that sustainable development is a UN plot to take away people’s commutes and McMansions. Speaking of corn pone fascists, the local branch of the other corn pone fascist party, the Constitution Party, announced their candidates last week, and I wrote up a nice post for them (keep your friends close and your enemies closer). I also blogged about the record heat, the corn pone fascist war on higher education in general and the social sciences in particular, a humorous take on Michigan’s corn pone fascists silencing Lisa Brown for uttering “vagina,” and the Detroit fireworks show, which along with the parade will survive because of America’s love of entertainment. I also wished my neighbors on the other side of the Detroit River a Happy Canada Day.
    Speaking of patriotic holidays, the most viewed post on my blog this week hasn’t been any of the above. It’s been last year’s “Happy 4th of July from James Howard Kunstler’s Tea Party” in which I comment on your “My Tea Party” post from 2010. It’s finally found an audience. For that, I say thank you for inspiring me and here’s to you getting better from your botched hip replacement.
    Happy Motoring–for now–from Detroit!

  20. newworld July 2, 2012 at 9:40 am #

    So much for the veggie to meat diet then, now its metals poisoning, good lord when a lawyer hears about this.
    As a documented right wing extremistI thank you President Obama for beginning the end of our medical travesty. The lady of my life has diverticulitis and a recent emergency room visit included a $6000 MRI, this is pure cost shifting.

  21. mow July 2, 2012 at 9:42 am #

    cant wait for the life insurance tax .
    have to keep those funeral homes solvent.

  22. Dirk July 2, 2012 at 9:45 am #

    Jim, your hip replacment plight reminds me of the mercury amalgam dental filling problem we baby boomers with less than perfect teeth face . At one time, I had a mouth full of the little toxic buggars in there just leaching away; worse if you happen to have more acidic saliva than someone else. Of course, most have been replaced over the years but who knows what effects that bioaccumulation of mercury from my youth will have. Oh well we have to die of something I guess.
    I wish you well, Jim, and do indeed pray for your recovery. And just in time to watch this technoaddicted greedy world shit the bed. Are we having fun yet?

  23. Elrond Hubbard July 2, 2012 at 9:45 am #

    Pray? Did you say pray for your ass? You claim to eschew such magic and wishful thinking with a vengeance, so I will not take you literally on this. Let the Great Unraveling proceed with careful planning, rational solutions, and reality-based actions. Breathe, think, do.

    Speaking as an unapologetic atheist, I will cheerfully pray for Mr. Kunstler’s health and well-being if he wants me to. The very worst it can possibly do is absolutely no harm. And on the remote possibility that there is a god of infinite compassion and mercy out there, he won’t begrudge throwing a little of that JHK’s way if I ask politely. If he insists that I worship him first, well, fuck him anyway.
    Also, “Too Much Magic”? Purchased, waiting to be read after I get through Jeff Rubin’s “The End of Growth” (not to be confused with Richard Heinberg’s “The End of Growth” — gets confusing, doesn’t it?).
    Cheers and best wishes, Jim!

  24. Stilba July 2, 2012 at 9:47 am #

    My wife is orginally from Russia and finds the American health system to be quite barbaric. Whenever she’s gone to get checked out for anything, she’s ended up arguing with the docs through their pre-concieved notions about what is wrong with her (and what pills to purchase and ingest for it). A stubborn type, doctors. Jim, I’m sure you can relate.
    As she’s a dual citizen, however, whenever she returns to the old country she heads to the doctors over there. Apparantly they spend a lot more time running tests of all kinds, checking out the entire human animal that is you before deciding anything …and it’s basically cost-free for the patient. Treatments aren’t guesstimated at fantastic costs to you. Nobody’s in a hurry. Though Russia hasn’t yet discovered customer service, their health system sure seems like something we could learn from.

  25. lsjogren July 2, 2012 at 9:47 am #

    Drywitt said:
    “A month later, I received a bill for $13,000. After many adjustments, insurance paid $1,200 and I coughed up about $1,400. Never get sick in Indio, CA.”
    One thing I have learned about our system, I discussed this with my sister once and she had reached the same conclusion, one reason it is important to have health insurance if you can afford it is that insurance companies are allowed to stiff the hospitals, but as an individual you are not.
    I had an ER visit a few years ago with a bill of about $5k which the insurance paid about 500 and then forced the hospital to suck it up on the other 4500. If I hadn’t had insurance I would have been on the hook for the full 5k.
    My mom had an ER visit recently and they originally billed her for the whole amount because she was on a new Medicare advantage plan and didn’t have her insurance info. Eventually she got the info and they rebilled through her insurance. She wound up with a amount due from her for 290 for deductibles or whatever, the insurnace paid something like 500 and there was some sort of “unreimbursed” portion of over 1k which looked familiar- it was the “suck it up” portion of the charges similar to what happened on my ER visit.

  26. BeingThere July 2, 2012 at 9:50 am #

    It’s all part of the same fabric, from finance to all other monopolies that are strangling this country like the soviet system of the former Soviet Union. It has nowhere to go, but down and it will fail–when you get the bill there is no more argument about private-public.–
    no more red and blue!
    I’m so amazed that there isn’t a fund set-up by now for a design malfunction with your hip and I suspect you will have to sue to get some financial remedy.
    Hoping the best for you–
    ps ordered your book yesterday!

  27. Steve July 2, 2012 at 9:51 am #

    Jim, it’s July, get with the program. Where is the new Architectural Eyesore of the month?

  28. kulturcritic* July 2, 2012 at 9:55 am #

    Enjoy, James.

  29. lsjogren July 2, 2012 at 9:55 am #

    Neon Vincent:
    There are certainly right wingers who are closed-minded about alternative transportation.
    There are also left wingers who mindlessly think that light and high speed rail are the answer to everything. For them rail is a hammer and every transportation issue is a nail.
    From your comments I have a hard time believing that you are not suffering from some degree of the same dogmatism that you observe in people on the political right.

  30. ozone July 2, 2012 at 9:56 am #

    You write:
    “I wonder – if what has happened is true and as factual as you have reported – then surely there must be a “class action” suit festering some where involving seven-figure payouts for several law partners.”
    JHK writes:
    “Eventually I was routed to yet another orthopedic surgeon who specializes in “revising” hip implant failures – in particular ones of the type I have, which have been failing at such a staggering rate that the lawyers have assembled one of the greatest litigation feeding frenzies in history. They are going after the manufacturers of these devices.”

  31. Newfie July 2, 2012 at 9:57 am #

    Meanwhile… millions of people are without power in the mid-Atlantic.
    Richard Duncan’s Olduvai theory predicts the fall of civilization will begin in 2012, ending in 2030, with permanent blackouts worldwide, starting with brownouts and temporary blackouts, and then finally the electric power networks themselves will expire.
    Pleasant dreams!

  32. Headless July 2, 2012 at 9:58 am #

    Just wanted to let you know that your new book (which I preordered and received by…uh…June 22, I think) is fantastic–up to the point that I read. You see, your book is SO good, that I had spend the entire morning in Starbucks reading it. I had gotten to the last chapter and I decided to take a bathroom break. And this is how good your new book is: Some asshole stole it while I was in the bathroom. Can I buy just the last chapter;)

  33. noel bodie July 2, 2012 at 10:03 am #

    Am giving a talk on local food later in week, may open with your “sugary shit” quote…. With generous and due attribution, of course. The question I always ask of single payer,national health care naysayers is: if it is so bad why are not the people of Canada, england, France, Germany etc.,etc. All out in the streets demanding it be overturned? Why no politicians campaigning on “elect me, I will take away the hated health care”. Could it be that they people actually like it?

  34. HeartandPen July 2, 2012 at 10:03 am #

    I will pray for your ass AND buy the book. Now, as for being a hostage of the system, use it and sue the MFers.
    Peter Crowell (Marlboro College)

  35. ozone July 2, 2012 at 10:07 am #

    Yep, all of a piece, and all chasing the golden kernel at the center: money and control.
    Even the system of “justice” can no longer be trusted to be just.
    In this particular piece, JHK runs a gauntlet of tax law, all the way to the equally arcane twistings and turnings of malpractice and manufactory law. The very definitions of “public hazard” are being reforged before our bewildered eyes, and what’s the reason for it? Could it be money and control?
    Here’s hoping that some kind of dietary/herbal mitigation can leach these toxins from Mr. Kunstler’s body as at least a stop-gap measure!
    Sheesh, the trials of the prophets, eh what?!?

  36. William Hunter Duncan July 2, 2012 at 10:07 am #

    I recently wrote a piece on Lyme, which I’ve had. I hope the best for you, Jim. You’ve been a kind of guidepost, and again, are confirming for me exactly what I need to get clear about, on my own path. Goddess bless,

  37. lsjogren July 2, 2012 at 10:11 am #

    One thing that puzzles me about the health care act.
    Why did they decide to structure it to treat the uninsured by beating them with a stick instead of offering them a carrot.
    Those of us who pay for our own health insurance have to pay it with after tax dollars whereas employer-paid health insurance is paid for with pretax dollars.
    This is a major discrimination against those who have to pay for their own insurance.
    So why didn’t they encourage those who have to pay for their own insurance by offering the same tax advantage that those who get their health care paid for do? That would be a big incentive for the uninsured to buy health insurance.
    Instead of a carrot they offer us a stick. They will continue to egregiously discriminate against those who have to pay for their own insurance in the tax treatment of it, and now they will add insult to injury by slapping us with an IRS penalty if we don’t purchase it.
    It is one reason for my seething disgust for the Democrats.
    I should point out I’m not a hack- I don’t like the Republicans either.

  38. sheppard1961 July 2, 2012 at 10:11 am #

    Left of center or right of center, it matters not! Both sides hate this Affordable Health Care Act! You folks have to step back and just take an impartial look at it and not just “see” Republican or Democratic insidious plots….Allan from the socialist health care country of Canada.

  39. tstreet July 2, 2012 at 10:20 am #

    So. Do you now conclude that your problems had nothing to do with your diet?

  40. orphanboy July 2, 2012 at 10:24 am #

    Mr Kunstler,
    I pray for you, being a quadruple bypass/aortic valve replavement hostage-to-the-System.
    Thanks for the great books, especially the originals, guiding and clarifying our thinking on these issues.
    You’ll be fine; those Doc’s all want your money. Too much paperwork and bad PR if you don’t have a successful outcome on your “case”, as they say these days!

  41. Fissile July 2, 2012 at 10:27 am #

    “It is a well-established fact that the chief cause of personal bankruptcy in the USA is unpayable medical bills on the part of people who have health insurance.”
    I know people who have paid into health insurance for 40 years, got sick, AND LOST EVERYTHING THEY HAD. LOST EVERYTHING DESPITE HAVING PAID INTO “THE BEST-IN-THE-WEST” MEDICAL SYSTEM FOR DECADES.
    This is the dirty little secret of American health care that most people don’t find out until it is too late. I can’t think of another “civilized” country on the planet where this is the case.
    As for you Rush Limbaugh/Ayn Rand fans who go on about “Surrender Monkeys” and “socialized medicine”, choke on a dick already.

  42. ChicagoRob July 2, 2012 at 10:27 am #

    Jim, nowhere in your analysis of Obamacare do I see this simple fact:
    The insurance companies are now required to spend 85 cents out of every dollar they take in on actual reimbursement for your health care – not on profit or “administrative costs” (some companies have been taking over a 30% cut; Medicare’s total percentage of their budget for administrative costs: 2%).
    Please let that play out in your mind about what it means for the general future of the health INSURANCE industry, as opposed to health CARE.

  43. JulettaofOhio July 2, 2012 at 10:29 am #

    Best of luck to you, Mr. Kunstler. You’ll need it of course. If you’d like for us to pray for you, we will place your name on the local cornpone nazi “Prayer Tree” list, although I’ve not found that to be particularly efficacious. It’s become very similar to “Have a nice day”. If you told someone that your dog was killed by a speeding fire truck which was on its way to fighting the fire which eventually burned down your house, while ensuring that your entire family was killed by a falling tree that had its roots loosened by water, they would grasp your forearm meaningfully and say “I’ll pray for you.” Maybe it’s all they can think of to say which costs them no effort and is socially acceptable. Anyway, best of luck to you.
    My husband had his knee replaced and while it seems to work (sort of) better than many, it crippled us financially. The very young surgeon put him on seven days of Tylenol 3 which did very little to cut the pain of amputation and made his recovery much slower, I think. I can’t imagine how the Civil War soldiers lived through any of that horrible time and can see why so many of them turned to the older, but powerful, drugs that were available.
    I have a close friend whose mother was a FRENCH war bride, and she always thought U.S. health care was barbaric and sadistic, particularly when it came to women’s diseases. Our slogan should be “We’re better than Bosnia” which shouldn’t put anyone out and will still keep the money flowing. This same woman had chelation therapy and while it didn’t alleve her original complaint, she had much improved eyesight. (????) I don’t know what causes Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, but if fear and loathing of the status quo and terror of the future contribute to it, you have every right to be overwhelmingly exhausted. Again, best of luck and please keep us posted on your progress or lack of. Many people care what happens to you. None of us are willing to pay for it. Humans suck, as does the system!

  44. malthus July 2, 2012 at 10:34 am #

    Very good writing today James. One thing you have left out of equation. The constant chronic stress everyone is bullshitted into thinking is the best way of life. The constant bombardment of noise, the constant buy at a .01 saving, the constant mantra of how wonderful the global economy is going to make everything, the keeping up with wall streets idea of a wonderful life and the constant mantra of the rat race. on and on and on.

  45. cbwim July 2, 2012 at 10:40 am #

    You might look into chelation, supervised by a competent naturopath. I’ve heard that it can remove such toxics out of the body.
    Good call on the Lyme Disease. Based on my own personal and near fatal experiences with a Lyme doctor (a naturopath who worked in one of the more controversial Lyme clinics back east once), many of these are operating on belief systems instead of science, trusting their clinical diagnoses more than the results of hard tests. Like you, wanting to proceed with treatment despite negative tests. And the amount of pills they want you to take – its all hearsay, not based in science. One feels like they are taking as many pills as a HIV patient in the early days!
    Interesting thing about Obamacare today. See
    Apparently, health insurance providers will now be required to spend 80% of premiums received on actual services, instead of overhead.

  46. jerry July 2, 2012 at 10:40 am #

    James, best wishes on your surgery! I tend to agree with you on the racketeering surrounding the medical world, as well as the ineptness of many doctors. One does have to become their own advocate, and that can be a helpful thing.
    I disagree with you regarding the reelection of Obama. The Supreme Court ruling on Obamacare will reelect him, in my opinion.
    Obamacare will not force people who cannot afford the insurance into buying it. The bill clearly states waivers can be gotten, and even with government subsides, if one cannot afford it, well, the government will let it go.
    If you cannot afford the coverage because of your income level, you will not be forced to buy it.

  47. dale July 2, 2012 at 10:41 am #

    As I understand it, (I’m taking it with good results) S-acteyl Glutathione is excellent for detoxing the liver of heavy metal poisoning. You might want to look into it. Source below.

  48. xport July 2, 2012 at 10:48 am #

    What’s up with the Supreme Court?
    These unelected judiciary should be tarred and feathered and run out on a rail.
    They elected G.Bush, made corporations people, and the show goes on.
    On the funny side of life, there is a pun in your medical complaint. An aging Hippy.

  49. dale July 2, 2012 at 10:51 am #

    Seriously Asoka??
    I think you’ve confused your “enlightenment” with confusion. Anyone who tells you, — ‘Oh, don’t pay attention to my behavior, I’m just driving away those obsessed with appropriate actions’ — is definitely not a teacher of dharma or anything else, he’s a con man. I think you need to get yourself deprogrammed.

  50. dale July 2, 2012 at 10:58 am #

    Being married to a doctor I get a birds-eye view of our medical care system, and it isn’t pretty. Everything said here is absolute true about the cost shifting and blatant profiteering that is so much a part of this corrupt and degenerate system. It’s really symbolic of our whole society as this stage.
    One strong suggestion I have for all of you, your chances of getting good caring treatment from a woman doctor is far better than from a man, who seem mostly concerned with becoming as rich as possible off of you.
    What really amazes me is how the Republicans can manage to convince so many people that this is the best we can do. I guess with enough ad money you can convince most people chicken shit is chicken salad after all.

  51. budizwiser July 2, 2012 at 10:59 am #

    yeah – color me – stupid – thanks ozone

  52. ccm989 July 2, 2012 at 11:06 am #

    Wow, what can I say about today’s post — when you are right, Mr. Kunstler, you are right but when you are wrong, you are so Very Wrong. Sorry to hear about your bad medical care experiences but here’s the thing – your medical care is only as good as your doctor. I too was misdiagnosed by my doctor. I got bitten on my palm and a huge, weird itchy donut erupted but I was too busy to go immediately to the doctor because my mother was dying, my daughter was graduating, my business was in its peak season, so I waited until I could spare the time. By the time I got to the doctor, weeks had gone by and the pain in my hand had shot up my arm to the base of my skull. I was in agony.
    The doctor (who is an RA specialist) decided I had rheumatoid arthritis. I told him I thought that was impossible because it was only on one side and it had started with a unidentified bug bite. He gave me steroids which made the swelling go down but once off the steroids, my hand, etc. swelled right back up. I live in a heavily infested deer area. I had to beg to get a Lyme Disease test. It came back positive and the doctor was absolutely stunned. I got some anti-biotics and the pain/swelling/etc. quickly went away. The following year when I was yet again bitten and saw the weird donut swelling on my ankle, I called the doctor’s office and he instantly prescribed the anti-biotics. The lesson here is go to the doctor right away – don’t hesitate or postpone the visit. Being treated quickly and accurately is the most effective way of getting better.
    Obamacare is a good thing. Why people are so obsessed with taxes is beyond me. 80% of Americans are covered by their own insurance. Its only a tiny increase that will do a world of good for millions of Americans — elderly Medicaid patients, foolish young people who never think they will die, good for people with pre-existing conditions like breast cancer, diabetes, AIDS, etc., because now they can’t be booted off or denied insurance coverage and good for college aged kids who can stay on their parents’ plan until they’re 26. Small businesses will be given a tax credit for doing the right thing.
    But if you are waiting for a perfect solution to anything, you will wait forever. I chose to live in the here and now. Enjoy what you have and stop worrying about the impossible.

  53. Ogier de Beauseant July 2, 2012 at 11:14 am #

    This is rich. Jim rails against the techno world on his weekly rant…and he has had a hip replacement!
    Hypocrisy anyone?

  54. hugho July 2, 2012 at 11:15 am #

    Thanks Jim for a sad but true column. As you know me from emails, I am one of those Operating room doctors who know very well how hopelessly corrupt the medical establishment is. I can add nothing to your rant. I as a doctor do my damndest to avoid any personal interaction with the system by living healthy and eating healthy. I try my level best to help the poor victims. When you have systemic collapse you realize that there is no way to fix the system when the individual components which are so tightly interconnected. Good luck.

  55. anti soak July 2, 2012 at 11:22 am #

    Did you read TLE?
    One of Jims predictions is more problems with the grid. And more and more problems in general!

  56. RJGrones July 2, 2012 at 11:33 am #

    re: all-politics-all-the-time tea party reptile brain stem psyche; It’s interesting.. We sailed over here and committed genocide on the natives and stole this amazing huge sprawling country with this rich abundance of natural resources the world has never seen, built an economy on the backs of African slaves and expanded westward with an assurance of manifest destiny, invented the telegraph, the record player, motion pictures, the airplane (arguably), the light bulb, the birth control pill, jazz music, baseball, we went to the Moon and back, etc… and so much more..
    And now it’s like the descendants of all that have become this reeking blob of psychological sickness of the mind and spirit.. Image the level of a mind that is hellbent on denying other people healthcare..
    “May you live in interesting times” – Chinese proverb and curse..

  57. Puzzler July 2, 2012 at 11:40 am #

    Too Much Magic indeed. I sure, Mr. Kunstler, that it hasn’t escaped your attention that it is meta-irony that this essay arrives on the day your book is published.

  58. jackieblue2u July 2, 2012 at 11:49 am #

    Thank You for sharing your personal story.
    I am sending good thoughts your way (praying).
    I sympathize. You are your own best advocate when it comes to health care.
    I have been thru Same type of situation with doctors. A Nightmare on every level.
    Now I won’t go on and on and on…
    Alot of excellent info for me in this post.
    I ‘totally’ ha ! relate.

  59. rayz July 2, 2012 at 11:50 am #

    I wouldn’t be surprised if JHK has been listening to “my doctors”….Dr. Joel Wallach (Dead Doctors Don’t Lie) and Dr. Peter Glidden (Fire Your MD Now). Their websites and radio shows can restore your health and save your life.

  60. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 12:15 pm #

    For someone adverse to Conspiracy Theories, Mr Kunstler doesn’t seem to have any problem with the Judge Roberts as Republican Agent one. I suppose it’s possible – a few on the Right believe it. But most feel that Roberts succumbed to liberal pressure and/or his own idealism about the Court being above politics.
    There wont be any healing of America – our divisions are real and just too deep. Laws are based on values and the Left and the Right have completely different value systems. One must triumph over the other. For the record, the Right is the right one, the values of the Founders. The tragedy is that neither party stands for these – though the Republicans pretend to.

  61. jackieblue2u July 2, 2012 at 12:20 pm #

    Thanks for being a physician who Cares.
    There are a few of them around.
    Yes it it Best to do Everything we can so as not to have to go into the System for help.
    What a nightmare it is becoming.
    I was born with tumors in my chest.
    Well they had no choice but to operate, I was definitely a goner at 6 months old without,
    so they went and found and removed to large tumors that were making my breathing more and more difficult. I was cut damn near in half, across my chest around my back.
    I lived. the odds of surviving were slim as I was so young.
    Total cost $2150.00. 1956. Overnight nurse $13.00 a shift.
    I shouldn’t have lived. And should be more thankful maybe.
    What a strange life. Way too much corruption.
    All about money now.
    Thanks again for being one of the good guys !

  62. xport July 2, 2012 at 12:20 pm #

    You are finely tuned into the medical scene.
    In The Witch of Hebron, the young protagonist poisons the horse, then flees his evil deed, only to become a surgeon and save the life of his nemesis. What a brilliant mind you have and a rich and rewarding gift of sharing your imagination with all of us. Thank you. I look forward to reading your current opus.

  63. jackieblue2u July 2, 2012 at 12:22 pm #

    So True about getting better care from a woman doctor.
    I speak from Experience here.

  64. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 12:24 pm #

    Who ever said a Nation is supposed to be multicultural and thus multi-valued? There is then no center and it cannot stand. In any case, the idea that the Court “should be above politics” doesn’t make any sense in such a divided Nation. This statement would only make sense in a Nation that was United with a single value system. Then if someone voted with a party agenda it would be obvious and odious. As it stands now, anyone who votes their values is condemned for playing politics by those with the other value system.
    Of course the Founding Fathers were against Parties as well…

  65. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    Were the surgeons who saved your life as a baby women?
    Try to be balanced. A woman doctor might be better for a woman but not for a man. Typically women have more sympathy for other women. I admit that might be exceptions to this too.

  66. xport July 2, 2012 at 12:30 pm #

    Sorry folks, hope I did not give away the plot.
    You need to find out about the witch.
    I love the witch and hope she has a few sisters like her. This is a very rich book and deserves a second reading.

  67. vjcberzyk July 2, 2012 at 12:34 pm #

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  68. San Jose Mom 51 July 2, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    I will pray for the skill and discernment of the surgeon so he can fix your hip problem, and I hope that your recovery is quick with minimal pain.

  69. xport July 2, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    Put your hands in the dirt. Grow your own crops.
    Feel what is like to plant your parents when they pass on. This is our earth, this is our planet, this is our life. Take control of your own destiny.

  70. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 12:39 pm #

    Yes, Medicine is supposed to be a Sacred Occupation – not a way to enrich oneself. Only the Military and a few in the Priesthood and Ministry even understand the concept anymore.
    Some things (many, actually) can’t be reduced to making money if the society is going to flourish -or ultimately even function.
    Politics is supposed to be a sacred occupation as well. And even business – making a profit should be only one of the goals in a healthy culture. There would also be the pride of providing a valuable service, pride in fine workmanship, satisfaction in providing employment, etc.
    People who refuse to make profit their one and only would enjoy the gratitude of the people as a recompense. Today we have people who make money selfishly or provide shoddy and/or unnecessary products. To assuage their guilt, they send money to Africa or give it to minorities here in America. For their own People – nothing.

  71. jackieblue2u July 2, 2012 at 12:39 pm #

    Over the course of 6 weeks, I wound up in the ER
    here, approx 8k per visit. Never diagnosed.
    no diagnsis 3x.
    4th time I laid on the floor at a friends’ house, dying, and waiting for The Other Healthcare outfit to open up Urgent care at 9am. (at night is when you end up in ER too often.)
    I made it, and showed up, (by then I had diagnosedmyself and the doctor said ” we have a patient who Correctly diagnosed herself, where is the surgeon on call?” anyway Gall bladder pain was off the charts. 2 years out now and no pain, and no gb.
    I do have insurance, luckily right now, anyway…
    We are all living on borrowed time it seems.
    well I am.
    I would rather die than go to that fucking place again. they treat people in pain like shit also.
    sorry I enjoy a good swear word once in a while.

  72. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 12:44 pm #

    Democrats are criticizing “free riders” – the ultimate irony since they’re whole modus operandi is to addict people to social services.

  73. Jack July 2, 2012 at 12:44 pm #

    This is medicine in America: The doctors make more money if you stay sick. The hospitals make more money if you stay sick. The pharma companies make more money if you stay sick. The health insurance companies make more money if you stay afraid of getting sick, and if you do get sick they want you to drop dead immediately. This all is going nowhere warm, friendly or fun. The remedy: Live hard, play hard, die young. Use your health, use it up. Do not out live yourself.

  74. cheesemoose July 2, 2012 at 12:57 pm #

    Here’s the flaw in your thinking, Jim.
    You say, “sooner or later the abstraction called ‘money’ must make truthful representations of itself in relation to reality, or else people cease to accept its claims of value.”
    No. What happens when the aristocracy, or the ruling class, or the 1%, or whatever you want to call the people running the current con, run it off a cliff…they declare war.
    We are in the decadent phase of the current ruling class. Their con has been revealed. True, it cannot be sustained much longer, as is. But that’s what war is for – a safety valve for exactly these moments.
    War is how society’s cash registers are re-set. You turn the anger and fear outward. If you win, you’ve got a lot of new resources to make you rich again. If you lose – well, the jig was up anyway, people would have tarred and feathered you and you would have been out on your ass in any case.
    So, if I were in the predicting game, like you are, I’d say put my money on war, sometime before the end of Obama’s 2nd term.
    That’s how the game works. You set up a system of control. You milk it til it doesn’t work anymore. Then you find a foreign enemy to blame when it blows up in your face. Wash, rinse and repeat.
    This is a phenomenon known as history.
    But money never makes a “truthful representation of itself in relation to reality.” It just adapts itself to the whims of whoever won the last war.

  75. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 1:16 pm #

    You’re just figuring this out now? Kind of slow on the uptake – just like you just realized that we have an immigration problem – after tens of millions have poured in over the last 50 years.

  76. SNAFU July 2, 2012 at 1:19 pm #

    Dale, Concur with your comment: “your chances of getting good caring treatment from a woman doctor is far better than from a man”, wholeheartedly. I lived 30 miles north of Baltimore for about 15 years and as my highly vaunted federal blue cross/shield did not cover dental (who needs teeth?) I prostituted my mouth as a training device for the dental students at the UM dental school in downtown Baltimore. The best care was provided by the female students the worst from the frat boy males.
    Subsequent to moving back to my roots in New York’s North Country I broke a tooth and searched for a female dentist locally. To my great luck I located one about 20 miles away in my ancestral home town of Potsdam and contacted her on a Monday morning via voice mail. She returned my call and apologized that she could not see me that afternoon but could fit me in the next day. She x-rayed my mouth, repaired the fractured tooth, replaced a couple of other suspect fillings (I inherited shit teeth) and cleaned my teeth all in the same appointment at a total cost a bit south of $200 in the Summer of 2006. Two years ago I cracked another tooth shell, filled with USAF installed silver and mercury, which she replaced with a gold crown for a total cost of $500. She does not accept insurance payments; but, if you have such she will submit the paperwork so that you might be refunded some portion of the costs.
    Caring reasonable medical professionals are out there; unfortunately, locating them appears to be just luck of the draw.

  77. observer July 2, 2012 at 1:34 pm #

    James, here is more grist for the mill:
    Dear Congresswoman Woolsey:
    I am a seventy-year-old woman who recently learned that I have increased my bone mineral density more than 25% in five years using inexpensive over-the-counter supplements.
    Just yesterday, I learned of an online tool designed for doctors to give their patients with osteoporosis. The tool can be seen here: http://effectivehealthcare.ahrq.gov/ehc/decisionaids/osteoporosis/?PC=EHCIT5
    This tool was apparently developed and designed by the United States Department of Health and Human Services at taxpayers’ expense. However, it fails to provide any information whatsoever about Vitamin K2, which is essential for strong bones. Vitamin K2 has been used in Japan for osteoporosis and heart disease since 1995.
    And this taxpayer-subsidized tool neglects to mention all the minerals needed for strong bones in addition to calcium—namely magnesium, manganese, zinc, boron, selenium, and iodine. Nor does it mention strontium citrate, an inexpensive mineral used in medicine for at least 100 years, and studied for osteoporosis at the Mayo Clinic in 1959, more than fifty years ago. This is the mineral primarily responsible for my own increase in bone density.
    It says nothing about the level of Vitamin D needed for strong bones—60-80 ng/mL– or the likely daily dosage of Vitamin D needed to achieve that level.
    The “Healthy Bones” tool offers patients with osteoporosis only one drug or another. It is sophisticated propaganda for Big Pharma, and leaves out half the story–the half about safe, natural supplements that work.
    For the past seven months, I have been participating in an online forum sponsored by the National Osteoporosis Foundation at http://www.inspire.com. Through that website I have met many other women who have reversed osteoporosis and “osteopenia” using only supplements, as well as many other women who have suffered life-threatening and disabling side effects from pharmaceutical drugs prescribed for osteoporosis.
    Two participants in the discussion lost their parents–one a father, one a mother—soon after the parents were infused with the osteoporosis drug Reclast. One of them and another Reclast-damaged participant testified before the FDA last summer about the horrific aftereffects of Reclast infusions. Their testimony, along with that of other bone drug victims, can be found here: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMeetingMaterials/Drugs/ReproductiveHealthDrugsAdvisoryCommittee/UCM275810.pdf
    Nearly every day, there is a new story about the damage done by bone drugs.
    The following was written by Lara Pizzorno, author of the excellent book “Your Bones, How You Can Prevent Osteoporosis and Have Strong Bones for Life—Naturally”:
    “First they said bisphosphonates do not cause fracture, then they said, well, maybe they do but it’s very rare, now I am seeing numerous medical journal articles laying out the characteristics of these fractures for radiologists — also warning that if a person experiences a fracture in one femur, pre-emptive surgery on the other leg is probably indicated. Even patients on these drugs with NO symptoms, may have”incomplete atypical femoral fractures.” In May 2012, researchers at the Department of Radiology, Hospital for Joint Diseases-New York University School of Medicine, published the results of a study in which they examined 200 femur x-rays in 100 patients who had been on bisphosphonates for 3 or more years (93 women and 7 men, ranging in age from 47-94 years). They discovered that two of these asymptomatic patients, who were only 50 and 57 years old, actually had “incomplete” atypical femur fractures. One of the women had “incomplete atypical femur fractures” in both her legs. The researchers note that two out of 100 patients is a much higher incidence rate than has yet been reported in the medical literature. What does this mean? If you are taking a bisphosphonate, even if you have no symptoms, your femurs may actually still be partially broken already, and obviously, on their way to a complete break. Here is the PubMed citation for this paper:
    La Rocca Vieira R, Rosenberg ZS, Allison MB, et al. Frequency of incomplete atypical femoral fractures in asymptomatic patients on long-term bisphosphonate therapy. AJR Am J Roentgenol. 2012 May;198(5):1144-51. PMID: 22528906.”
    I would appreciate it if you could investigate this “Healthy Bones” online tool. I believe it to be a serious misuse of tax dollars to boost pharmaceutical company profits, and to make frightened women think there is no alternative to these dangerous drugs.
    Your constituent,

  78. Jam47 July 2, 2012 at 1:49 pm #

    You won’t thank your lucky stars, Sprezzatura, if you were to come down with Lyme disease or to develop heavy metal poisoning. The methods used by Canadian physicians for diagnosing and treating Lyme disease are almost identical to those used by physicians in America. These methods are useless. Same with metal poisoning.
    If you live in Toronto, as I do, or anywhere else in Ontario, finding a physician who is willing to treat you for these two conditions is the very devil. And then comes the problem of separating those who claim to know how to treat you from those who actually do know how to treat you.
    My fiancee has just told me that what I’ve just written is not important. She says that next to nobody has Lyme disease or metal poisoning. She’s dead wrong.

  79. JulettaofOhio July 2, 2012 at 1:52 pm #

    Oh, give it a fucking rest! WE (as in most living civilized humans) didn’t kill any Indians and my ancestors would be hugely pissed that you think their farm was built by slaves. They about wore themselves out and relied on the labor of themselves and their children. (It was all organic, too. No choice back then.) I did have three, 3x great-uncles who died in Andersonville. One directly and two later due to tuberculosis incurred from malnutrition. Is that good enough for you? No ancestor on either side ever killed an Indian, directly or indirectly. Maybe your family lives or lived off the labor of others, taxpayers or otherwise, but mine did not. Read a history book written before 1965. The west and mid-west were not actually settled by teen-aged girls and blacks.

  80. birdmanifesto July 2, 2012 at 1:54 pm #

    TAI CHI… it’s free. it will extend your life. RAW FOOD… contains the enzymes that helped us evolve. LET FOOD BE YOUR MEDICINE… Hippocrates said it. The doctors are drug dealers who only want to perform surgery on your wallet. I have not been to a doctor in 25 years. What is “health insurance”? read the above. Doctors cannot see the big picture. The pathology of the medical establishment is obvious. Industrial diet.

  81. jackieblue2u July 2, 2012 at 1:55 pm #

    if only more saw Life as Sacred…

  82. Tali48 July 2, 2012 at 1:55 pm #

    Please don’t paint Naturopathic Doctors with the same brush as Medical Doctors. Most of us would have looked at your symptoms and been suspicious of heavy metal poisoning. In fact, when you first mentioned your symptoms, I wrote and suggested it as a possibility.

  83. treuburger July 2, 2012 at 1:55 pm #

    All the best in your journey to recovery, James. You’ve got my prayers and awesomely good vibrations sent your way. Your comments about heavy metal toxicity caused by the implants are an eye opener as I have someone in my family with symptoms strikingly similar to what you describe.

  84. JulettaofOhio July 2, 2012 at 1:56 pm #

    There are left-wingers who are closed-minded about everything not to their liking, as well. As far as high-speed rail goes, I had some moron question whether I actually live in this benighted state because Obammy was going to pay for high-speed rail between the three Cs, Columbus, Cincinnati and Cleveland. Apparently he doesn’t realize there is a LOT of Ohio on either side of that particular corridor, and we live in rural Ohio. Also, Obammy isn’t going to pay for it out of his book deals. The taxpayer will be hit up for it and Ohio is already heavily taxed. No thanks….

  85. jackieblue2u July 2, 2012 at 1:58 pm #


  86. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 1:59 pm #

    As Serpaphim of Sarov said when asked why he walked around with a heavy load of bricks: “I trouble him who troubles me”.

  87. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 2:06 pm #

    The first step is ending abortion. But instead we are going the wrong way – now making it free and forcing the Church to fund it.
    I mean if women can’t relate to their own bodies in a sacred way as the Carriers of Life – then all is lost. That’s basic basic. Instead they worship convenience and we enable them in this. It’s easier! So we think. And we’re not going to have ANY of the other things I mentioned and not have THIS. This comes first.
    We should tremble in fear at the slaughter of 40 million innocents over the last 50 years – maybe more. The Karmic Comeback for that is likely to be utter Destruction. As a prelude, He has twisted and darkened our minds so we can’t overcome our problems.

  88. Consultant July 2, 2012 at 2:09 pm #

    Stuff is bad, but it will get infinitely worse with Romney and the Tea Party in charge.
    There is “trying to manage bad events” and then there is “what the hell, let’s all just get buck wild”. The former is Obama, the latter is Romney & his crew.
    Don’t forget, the Republicans are the ones who broke the glass and just went crazy with stuff.
    We’re on a 32 year run in America where our leadership class has collapsed across the board. The 1%/99% is an accurate depiction of where we are. And it’s mostly the Republicans who brought us to this crazy point.
    Peak Oil is here and the Republicans (and some Democrats) could care less.

  89. Consultant July 2, 2012 at 2:17 pm #

    The health care field has been taken over by outside interests who are in it to make money, not to cure people.
    The field is now side tracked and we, the patients, pay the price.
    We need a one single payer insurance organization that is a nonprofit whose sole purpose is to pay the insurance bills. That’s it.
    Let nonprofit hospitals, doctors and patients determine what kind and amount of care you need. Period.
    Make it illegal to have for profit hospitals.
    Make for profit pharmaceutical companies pay for research that comes out of govt. or university labs. Otherwise, let them do what they do in terms of drug research. Drug patents should run 15 years.
    Make it illegal to advertise prescription drugs on tv.
    There. Healthcare problem solved.

  90. Prelapsarian Press July 2, 2012 at 2:22 pm #

    I had a metal on metal hip implant about a year after Jim got his, but mine was a resurfacing rather than a total hip replacement. I could have had a THR covered by my insurance at the time, but I went to Belgium and spent 11,000 euro out-of-pocket to have the guy I consider the world’s best hip surgeon do it. So far I haven’t had a moment’s problem with the hip, and haven’t had any of Jim’s symptoms — knock on wood.
    Choice of surgeon is extremely important in hip surgery, because if they don’t get that thing in there right, problems like those Jim is reporting are on their way. I’d like to think it’s not entirely a fundamental flaw with the metal-on-metal technology, which does allow you to be much more active and should last longer, and more of a surgeon problem. Don’t ever get a hip resurfacing from an American orthopedist. They fought it tooth and nail, and when it became inevitable that they would have to do it, didn’t put in the necessary effort to master a more challenging procedure. Hence all the problems out there.
    Anyway, best of luck getting through this crisis, Jim.

  91. Buck Stud July 2, 2012 at 2:31 pm #

    Well said Vlad Krandz. One of your best posts – ever.

  92. anti soak July 2, 2012 at 2:54 pm #

    A friend went to an MD ‘to have 2 small moles removed’, it took a few minutes for him to spray the liquid nitrogen on and remove them.
    Price, 1000$ [or was it 1500?].
    An Acupuncturist I know needed a workmans comp
    [or some sort] of evaluation of his neck.
    MD had him turn his neck, wrote an evaluation in
    a minute or less, fee 1000$.
    Someone else I knew worked for a series of ‘Orthopedic Clinics’, they gross 100 MILLION a year.

  93. xport July 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm #

    vlad, glad that you made this post. There is a lot to talk about here.
    All work is sacred. We need to find a way to get everyone to work. There was a recent trial in Phila. Pa. and a member of the Catholic Church was convicted of negligence by sheltering the pedophile priests in his district.
    About time. We need to clean out all of the crap in our society. Give everyone a decent education and a productive job. Stop raping the environment and get on with using solar energy to fuel our needs. No more wars, we live on a small ball that is spinning around our sun. Time to grow up and face reality.

  94. CynicalOne July 2, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    I don’t understand bankruptcy from medical bills.
    Are affordable payment plans not an option?
    I know of numerous professionals who will set up a payment plan if you cannot pay the entire balance at once.
    A woman I know made monthly payments for several years on various medical bills she could not pay for as they came due. She may still be paying for all I know.
    She has not gone bankrupt nor lost her home.

  95. Jam47 July 2, 2012 at 3:21 pm #

    Thing is, Dirk, mercury poisoning will very probably be one of the causes of your death. And mine. As well as tens of millions of others. Anyone who has had mercury amalgams placed in their mouths can consider themselves poisoned. And, except for those who chelate the mercury out, permanently poisoned.

  96. San Jose Mom 51 July 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm #

    My acupuncturist is also an M.D. (board certified) and charges $120 a visit. He also teaches Qi Gong classes to his patients at a cost of $20 for a 90 minute class.

  97. Liquid Lennny July 2, 2012 at 3:28 pm #

    I’d like to second that motion!
    All in favor say aye…

  98. myrtlemay July 2, 2012 at 3:29 pm #

    A friend of mine recently had a fall and had hip surgery. I have no idea what the cost is or will be (she’s 92 and on Medicare). Her family was trying to find someone to care for her now that she’s out of the hospital. They were looking at something like $500-$800/week for a caregiver full time. Luckily through a mutual friend they found a woman who is in a very unhappy break-up with her husband. This woman stays with my friend all week, with maybe one or two days off, and only requires about $100/week plus room and board. More proof that we all need to take care of each other as TLE unfolds.
    This same friend’s husband died of lung cancer about 10 years ago after a lengthy hospital stay (think he was in his 80s and a long term cigarette smoker, oxygen tank, the works). Hospital bill came to something over $100K! Final bill my friend was responsible for was a little over $5K.
    I hope you get treated and mend, JHK. Your musings are something to look forward to each Monday!

  99. AbandonAffluence July 2, 2012 at 3:32 pm #

    Might it, in hindsight, have been churlish and premature of you to point the finger of blame for your symptoms on your vegan diet? Come back into the fold, dear James.

  100. Jam47 July 2, 2012 at 3:37 pm #

    I hope you’re not implying that James Kunstler has Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Lots of things can make you feel chronically fatigued: anemia, B12 insufficiency, hypothyroidism, heart disease, and on and on. To be chronically fatigued is not to necessarily have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, which is a specific disease with a generally recognized set of causes.

  101. Jimmy Drinkwater July 2, 2012 at 3:48 pm #

    I’m not sure what to make of you vlad. Some of what you write is insightful, some is the gibberish of an ideologue, eg:

    One must triumph over the other. For the record, the Right is the right one, the values of the Founders.

    Interesting to see you take the bait.
    The oh so sacred ‘flounders’ were the enemy of the common man. The federalists won out, overturned the Articles of Confederation and the sovereignty of the states. Hamilton and Madison led the charge to protect the banks and secure centralized control of the nation along with the exclusive right to the use of martial force.
    Read up on who Daniel Shays was and what the Whiskey Rebellion meant.

  102. xport July 2, 2012 at 3:49 pm #

    In all truth this is the ultimate blog post.
    We need a remedy to cure our ills.
    Please Doctor, help us, we are dying.
    And we were born to die, but can’t we have a good time in the process? There is a joke about Marty the puss sucker. The punch line is “lady, do you have to make my job disgusting?”
    I was walking down the road yesterday and met Doctor Robert, we stared a conversation. He is a tea party guy, and works with the system, gets paid well and so forth. He hates Obama. So what is the alternative? Romney? He will outsource all of America. We will be working for the Chinese.

  103. messianicdruid July 2, 2012 at 3:50 pm #

    “All work is sacred. We need to find a way to get everyone to work.”
    “The Puritans turned work into a virtue, evidently forgetting that God invented it as a punishment.”
    Do these two “work”s share the same definition, or are you talking about “busy”?

  104. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm #

    I think you need to get yourself deprogrammed.

    Seriously, dale, are you not aware Osho is the master deprogrammer?
    “My work is exactly deprograming. I simply deprogram you. Whether you are Hindu or Mohammedan or Christian or Jesus freaks or Witnesses of Jehovah or Hare Krishna people or Moonies — whatever your kind and whatever your trademark, it doesn’t matter — I simply deprogram you. And I am not giving you any program in its place. I am leaving you alone, to yourself
    I don’t give you any doctrine that replaces hell, that replaces heaven, that replaces God — no.
    I take away everything that you are programmed with and leave you to yourself to seek and search. Who am I to reprogram you?
    So the first thing is: regain the rebellious spirit you were born with — which is not a program, which is your very being.
    The second thing: become an individual.
    The society tries to make you a person, never an individual. A person is one who has a personality, and a personality is a mask. Society teaches you how to sit, how to stand, how to behave, how to act in certain situations. In every possible way the society is preparing you so that you can fit with the status quo.”

  105. Liquid Lennny July 2, 2012 at 4:04 pm #

    Once again Jim you pretty much called it right on.
    Like optimistic guy I am I was hoping the Supreme Court would have been a last bastion of common sense and strike the law down. But I was (am, is) obviously delusional. They haven’t demonstrated any real sanity in quite some time. If an incomprehensible “healthcare” bill is considered a signature accomplish because it throws millions more into a disfunctional system then we really don’t need any more proof that we’re all truly f#&ked. Oh yea, I’ll give that guy 4 more years, yea right! And our second choise is a “vulture capitalist”. More and more it looks like “none of the above” gets my vote.
    To those who didn’t see it here’s a link to a good animated explaination of our sickcare system;
    On a more positive note, I just found out Jim’s latest cuniform just arrived and am looking forward to the new read!
    As a suggestion for some additional summertime reading besides “Too Much Magic” I’ve got the following recommendations;
    “The Trap” by James (Jimmy) Goldsmith
    “When Money Dies” by Adam Fergusson
    There are many more but space is limited…
    If you want to get an idea of where we’re headed the description of 1923 Germany is becoming increasingly more relevent as will the more unpleasant aftermath. It begs the question who will play the role of America’s homegrown A.H.? Curious Cf’d Nation’s minds will want to know…
    Later all!

  106. dale July 2, 2012 at 4:27 pm #

    regain the rebellious spirit you were born with — which is not a program, which is your very being.
    If I were any more rebellious I would have spent most of my life in jail.

  107. ront July 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm #

    Pray? Did you say pray for your ass? You claim to eschew such magic and wishful thinking with a vengeance, so I will not take you literally on this.”
    Moondog, I would say the JHK was speaking from his heart, not his mind. The reasoning mind is too limited to grasp what the heart can know.
    “There are no atheists in foxholes” is an aphorism used to argue that in times of extreme stress or fear, such as when participating in warfare, all people will believe in or hope for a higher power.
    Entering a hospital and then to have someone cut you open is likely more dangerous than the modern day “foxhole.”
    When do you go in for surgery, James? I will put your name into my personal “advocate’s prayer” in which I request God’s attention be upon those going through healing processes, difficult ordeals and difficult transitions. The intention is that God’s attention will provide the peace, patience, courage, strength, and resources required.
    This week’s article is spot on.
    “Forgive them for they know not what will happen.”

  108. turkle July 2, 2012 at 4:50 pm #

    That’s pretty arrogant and presumptuous to think that there is some immortal, divine being up there listening to your requests. Anyways, I’m going to go wish that Santa Claus brings me a new BMW this Christmas. I’m sure he’s listening.

  109. turkle July 2, 2012 at 4:52 pm #

    Aren’t you on unemployment benefits, Vlad? There’s nothing wrong with that but you’re constantly harping on the evils of socialism and social services. So go live free in a shed in the woods or something and put your money where your mouth is.

  110. PRD July 2, 2012 at 4:55 pm #

    You might also get better care if your doctor wasn’t trained in the U.S.
    We have seen two cardiologists (married) that were both trained in England. They are respectful (don’t assume the right to use your first name, but say “Mr. or Mrs. —“), patient (take a good deal of time explaining things and answering questions), and are responsive to a true patient-doctor dialogue. They said that in their training it was stressed that it is a privilege to have someone come to you for help.
    Here, it seems, doctor & PA training is about exhausting the students physically and psychologically, harassing & embarrassing them, and turning out egomaniacal assholes.

  111. myrmecia July 2, 2012 at 4:56 pm #

    Like so many above, I spent the weekend reading Too Much Magic. Well done! One comment: you predict the end of the internet sometime in the sot so distant future, based on its prodigious requirement for very reliable electricity in a time where very reliable energy just won’t exist.
    But my own experience points to a different point of collapse for the internet. By way of coincidence the press here in the UK reported today that a million workers go to work with traces of drugs in their systems:
    I have found that this is specially the case with IT contractors. Some are professional, cool and highly intelligent. Others are intelligent but their personal lives are a mess. It will take just one more thing to lead these psychological wrecks to stay away from work, curled up under the blankets or wrapped around a bottle of Glenfiddich. They will have left behind inadequate system documentation. The redundancy and fail-safe precautions built into systems will be of no account when there is no one who knows what to do when the red warning light comes on.

  112. turkle July 2, 2012 at 4:59 pm #

    Have you tried turning it off and on again?

  113. Nastarana July 2, 2012 at 4:59 pm #

    I agree that the fix was in in the recent Supreme Court ruling. There is, I would suggest, no need to make the Chief Justice out to be smarter than he is.
    This court was never going to take the insurance industry’s brand new private tax away from them. The Cheif Justice gave his conservative colleagues cover, so they can keep on pocketing those large speaking fees, not to mention the travel and free meals, from RW organizations, while still not offending an important segment of our governing coalition, the FIRE enterprises.
    Large and influential segments of the Democratic coalition also wanted the individual mandate, which they weren’t planning on paying for themselves. They either have jobs which include health care benefits or are too poor to be required to pay it.

  114. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 5:09 pm #

    You may have something there. It certainly has gone too far. I mean the word Union implies something voluntary and therefore the South should have had the right to leave the Union – otherwise it’s no Union but a Tyranny.
    Washington and Company were extraordinary men but the Anglo Saxon Culture was already too commercial and they inherited that. Many were disappointed after the War at the compromises. But there was still lots of open land and opportunity providing room to grown – the ultmate safety valve.
    Many also knew that slavery was a horrible way to start off a new country but the South was ready to even think about changing it. Virginia and the Carolinas were far too powerful to cross so the North backed down. As Sartre said, life is a bourgeios compromise. But one can only compromise so much about important things….
    As far as America being founded on Racism – all Nations are. If you don’t value your own above all others, you have nothing and will soon be homelesss. That’s wha Zinn and Co never got – they were stuck at the adolescent stage of criticizing and feeling superior. As Orwell put it – the endless puerile carping of people without power and who will never have it. If they got it, they would be brutal beyond imagining. As someone said, when innocence acts, it murders.

  115. turkle July 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm #

    Abortion prevents crime, according to Freakonomics, by eliminating from the population a group of likely criminals. So if you’re against crime and abortion, how to decide?

  116. Tark July 2, 2012 at 5:13 pm #

    I think I would just as soon throw you out right along with the thumpers.

  117. Tark July 2, 2012 at 5:21 pm #

    I love this article.
    I will admit that I’ve had to take a slew of anti-depressants in the past, and the same arrogant, callous, sniffing-‘clients’-for-money attitude exists in all sorts of medical and associated professionals. I believe they love the feeling of lording it over vulnerable people in need and being paid for it.
    Obama and company just want to control us on the most intimate, personal level. People who believe they know what’s best for everyone; believe they have the duty to force you into certain modes of behavior, and the authority to back it up, are the scariest people alive.

  118. jackieblue2u July 2, 2012 at 5:26 pm #

    Yes MM, people helping people
    we have turned into a victim blaming society.
    i wonder if that is related to this topic.
    anyway that’s the Real World to me.
    A CRIME.
    Who the F*** can afford that.
    On the other hand I have been a caregiver for others with big $$$ and they would say ‘oh we are property poor’. (they owned houses in oceanfront, and hilltop places). we can’t afford to pay the going rate Or even close to it.
    so for 5 years I stupidly took care of their mother, then she dies, and they make a ton of $$$ on her house, (and stocks btw it turned out), and even tho they promised to ‘make it right’ in the end.
    THEY DIDN’T. shock shock.
    shoulda listened to my friend and got it in writing. I was too young to knowbetter, they took unfair advantage of me.
    worlds’ full of people like that.
    really sad situation.

  119. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm #

    Yes and why? I mean being able to work continuously for 48 hours without sleep is a valuable gift – but lacking it does not mean you couldn’t be an excellent doctor. So we treat med students this way for decades as if they are going out for the special forces or as if their are too many doctors and we are trying to discourage them from going further – and then we import doctors in from the 3rd World by the tens of thousands. Maybe some of our would have been willing to work for less too? Did we ever ask?
    Being able to work without sleep and with minimal rest might be necessary for a military field doctor of course.

  120. Mike Moskos July 2, 2012 at 5:31 pm #

    One of my family members has been telling me for years that as health “insurance” gets more expensive, more people will drop it and the insurance companies will eventually go out of business. Well, our politicians/supremes took care of that little problem for them, didn’t they? Some less liberal than I now say we can now turn our attention to reducing costs (things like allowing Medicare to take competitive bids for drugs, etc.). Fat chance of that happening now.
    The most rapidly growing part of the medical system are doctors who take no insurance, no Medicare/caid, etc. Typically they work alone or with one assistant. By cutting out the hordes of paper pushers in most medical offices, their costs are lower. The beauty of this system is that because the patient is paying immediately and for each service, the doc is under tremendous to provide the most value for the least dollars spent. If someone else is paying, you always want the chauffeur-driven Bentley, when the Ford Focus will do. In a system where people demand the best, the system will orient itself towards providing the most high tech, expensive, interventionist medicine possible.
    An MD (Merchant of Death) is good for only a few things: emergencies, antibiotics, and surgery. Asking them to perform other services, is a recipe for failure. Too bad our government and insurance companies who follow their lead don’t pay for access to other practitioners, who might actually be able to improve health. Realistically, if you think the stuff in grocery stores is food, expect degenerative diseases. Food comes directly from a farmer. What’s in the grocery stores may look like food, but it is too old to have much nutritional value.
    If you’re interesting in protecting your health, I’d recommend the Weston A. Price Foundation. westonaprice.org. By focusing on what kept our ancestors healthy (the most nutrient-dense foods and proper preparation), they seem to be far ahead of all the other health groups.

  121. Majella July 2, 2012 at 5:33 pm #

    Isogren – the apparent cognitive dissonance of the young man identifying with the Occupy movement while also holding Ron Paul as a preferred politician: I don’t have the same problem with that as you do.
    I suspect (and I’m sure I’m not alone)that this young man, in expressing support for both movements, is enduring a yearning (and likely hopeless) desire for a little old-fashioned HONESTY in public & civil life.
    OWS shines a light on hypocrisy, RP shines a light on hypocrisy. OWS has no solutions, but RP does offer ANSWERS (be they impractical or impossible to carry out).

  122. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm #

    As Wage would say, sterilize the low lifes. Bribe them with 40’s and cartons of cigarettes.
    Thank you for supporting Eugenics. But let’s not commit sin while we do it, eh? I know it’s hard to see the truth of your opponent, but as Blake said, “Opposition is True Friendship”. The Green Lion and Red Dragon desire each other despite their superfical hatred – and because of it.
    Why not just sterilize everyone like you would like to do, aborting fetuses for lunch? People have rights Turk, even losers and low lifes. And let’s face it – we could be wrong in any given case. And more to the point, the Goverment cannot be trusted with such power. No the slow way is best. This includes positive Eugenics too – subsidizing high IQ couples to have MANY children. Haters like Wage hated this part. The Death she liked though!
    I’m not on any Federal Aid. Sorry.

  123. Smokyjoe July 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm #

    I am surprised that JHK did not write about the “life in the dog’s mouth” in the Mid-Atlantic states now. Some folks are going without power for a second week.
    It’s a peek at the Long Emergency, and it is not pretty. Everything seems fragile and jury-rigged, working only until the next big storm cells roar through.
    We’ll never keep this system running in a real emergency.

  124. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 5:46 pm #

    He also teaches Qi Gong classes to his patients
    From infallible Wiki:
    Qigong, chi kung, or chi gung (simplified Chinese): literally “Life Energy Cultivation”) is a practice of aligning breath, movement, and awareness for exercise, healing, and meditation sold to the gullible who have already tried yoga, buddhistic meditation and zumba all of which pull in an average of $20 a pop for the teacher, usually as a sideline to some legitimate health related vocation ;o)

  125. Boris July 2, 2012 at 5:51 pm #

    Countries and states that have decriminalized cannabis sativa/indica have the best health care systems.

  126. dale July 2, 2012 at 5:55 pm #

    One of my family members has been telling me for years that as health “insurance” gets more expensive, more people will drop it and the insurance companies will eventually go out of business.
    Insurance companies go out of business….BAHAHAHAHA!!

  127. dale July 2, 2012 at 6:00 pm #

    Dr Doom’s at it again, he was right once……

  128. dale July 2, 2012 at 6:04 pm #

    I’m not on any Federal Aid. Sorry.
    Didn’t you advocate the government giving everyone $10K a year earlier this week? I guess your only a capitalist when the socialism is out of reach.
    BTW — I’ve been dreaming of a “Pacifica” for years, California, Oregon and Washington as a country unto itself. I’d move back in a heartbeat. The south shouldn’t be “allowed” to succeed, they should be pushed.

  129. Tark July 2, 2012 at 6:11 pm #

    O god, another one of the ‘hate the South for everything’ Enlightened Ones.

  130. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 6:16 pm #

    OWS has no solutions…
    I disagree. OWS has solutions in a ten point contract to rebuild America:
    10 Critical Steps to Get Our Economy Back on Track
    I. Invest in America’s Infrastructure
    II. Create 21st Century Energy Jobs
    III. Invest in Public Education
    IV. Offer Medicare for All
    V. Make Work Pay
    VI. Secure Social Security
    VII. Return to Fairer Tax Rates
    VIII. End the Wars and Invest at Home
    IX. Tax Wall Street Speculation
    X. Strengthen Democracy

  131. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 6:16 pm #

    The remedy: Live hard, play hard, die young.
    The quality of life would be much improved if our life expectancy in America were lower. Instead of complaining that we are 38th on the list of countries at about 78 years we could be happier at the world average of 67. Ask all those ancients in Japan what they think of long life. Everyday at breakfast my poor 90 year old mother-in-law repeats endlessly “it’s no good to get old, “it’s no good to get old.” Alzheimer’s would be a shadow of its terrible current self.

  132. BeantownBill July 2, 2012 at 6:21 pm #

    I have mixed feelings about the health care industry. I’ve heard numerous horror stories and many good stories, so who’s to really know?
    Personally, I’ve had mostly good experiences, and the bad ones weren’t really very bad at all. Last year I had gall bladder surgery – out damned bladder! Like Jackie said in her post, it was agonizing. Unfortunately for me, I had to go the macho route, so I endured it for 12-14 hours before my wife forced me to go see the doctor at our HMO. The doctor there said it might be my gall bladder, so she sent me to the hospital.
    She was very caring about it. She sent me over by ambulance because that way I would be looked at right away in the ER, rather than wait 2 or more hours had I driven there by car.
    The ER doctor took a sonagram and came back within a few minutes, saying every square inch of my gall bladder was filled with stones, and it had to come out asap.
    I was given pain meds and I had surgery laproscopically. The post-op ICU nurses were fabulous. I felt I got top-notch care. I stayed in the ICU overnight and was moved to a regular floor for a day before being released. The nurses there were not so hot, though. I went home and I immediately was able to carry on my normal activities – albeit rather gingerly. I didn’t have much energy, but I felt good, and I had no complications. I only have 2 tiny scars that most people don’t see unless they look carefully.
    Overall, I’d rate my whole experience an 8.5/10 only because of the floor nurses, otherwise I’d rate my care a 10. I had Medicare and supplemental insurance; the whole thing cost me several hundred dollars out of a total bill of around 10K. Even though I’m getting on in years, that was my first operation, so as far as anything major is concerned, this was my only medical experience.

  133. xport July 2, 2012 at 6:26 pm #

    Here is video to think about.
    I do not agree. The world would be a less place without the likes of Mozart, Beethoven, Einstein and millions of other great people. The reason that life is great is because of life itself.

  134. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 6:26 pm #

    The last thirty years of your life (65 to 95) can be the best years of your life. This video explains how to maximize your potential in those golden years.
    Note for the Jane Fonda haters: hatred only hurts you, not Jane Fonda.

  135. dale July 2, 2012 at 6:26 pm #

    O god, another one of the ‘hate the South for everything’ Enlightened Ones.
    Don’t hate em, just rather live in a different country from them. I think we’d all be better off.

  136. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 6:29 pm #

    Peak Oil is here and the Republicans (and some Democrats) could care less.

  137. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm #

    Make it illegal to have for profit hospitals.
    OMG, another “not for profit” nutcase.

  138. messianicdruid July 2, 2012 at 6:35 pm #

    “That’s pretty arrogant and presumptuous to think that there is some immortal, divine being up there listening to your requests.”
    You’re doing it again.

  139. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 6:38 pm #

    Had the same procedure: not as good an experience. Woke up from surgery only to find the surgeon nicked a blood vessel and I was under for a long time. They did blood transfusions to try to keep me alive while I was under.
    When I finally woke up I heard these words: “We almost lost you.” Took six weeks to get back to “normal.”
    Overall, I’d rate my whole experience an 4.5/10 only because I almost died due to surgeon incompetence. But back then we were young and bounced back rapidly from iatrogenic disease and soldiered on. After that experience I have tried to stay away from hospitals and doctors. So, overall, it was good motivation to eat my vegetables.
    TEDxIowaCity – Dr. Terry Wahls – Minding Your Mitochondria

  140. messianicdruid July 2, 2012 at 6:40 pm #

    “Here, it seems, doctor & PA training is about exhausting the students physically and psychologically, harassing & embarrassing them, and turning out egomaniacal assholes.”
    That’s how we train air traffic controllers too. Maybe its endemic.

  141. scott July 2, 2012 at 6:42 pm #

    Don’t go back to the same poisoned well for more surgery. Just find some fine assed blonde with big titties physical therapist to make it all better.
    Non-invasive is the way to go.

  142. BeantownBill July 2, 2012 at 6:45 pm #

    I saw Kirk Douglas on Bill Maher’s show a week ago last Friday. He had a stroke about 15 years ago and cannot speak clearly. But other than that, he was vivacious, walked unaided onto the set, has just written a new book and has a good sense of humor. He’s 95 and is leading a good life (yeah, he has the money). I’d say he wouldn’t have wanted to go by age 67. Q, you feeling old and want to croak – you’re older than 67? I hope not. I’d like to think I can still contribute to the world around me.

  143. Tark July 2, 2012 at 6:46 pm #

    Well, gosh, it seems to me that even California and ‘Pacifica’ would welcome, and be much better off, absent some chunks of it’s own area. Starting with Berkeley and maybe as much as half of San Francisco, all of Hollywood, The Oregon coast entirely, some of Seattle, etc, etc.
    Also,get rid of the Northeast from Boston to D.C. and the South wouldn’t really have a reason to s-e-c-e-d-e.

  144. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 6:47 pm #

    Maybe its endemic.
    MD, endemic would mean localized, or only affecting a certain type of occupation. I think the word you want is epidemic, i.e., prevalent among many occupations at the same time.
    Q., you have to respond more rapidly when an epidemic grammatical disaster strikes. We have little time. Grammatical errors seem to be endemic on CFN.

  145. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 6:49 pm #

    We need to clean out all of the crap in our society. Give everyone a decent education and a productive job. Stop raping the environment and get on with using solar energy to fuel our needs. No more wars, we live on a small ball that is spinning around our sun. Time to grow up and face reality.
    What a circle jerk of wishful thinking from you and Vlad today…imprinted with Buck Stud’s imprimatur.

  146. BeantownBill July 2, 2012 at 6:52 pm #

    Scott, I don’t know who you’re responding to, but believe me, after I was writhing in excruciating pain for 12 hours, a 10 years younger Pamela Anderson could have stood before me naked and I wouldn’t even have noticed (or cared).

  147. messianicdruid July 2, 2012 at 7:02 pm #

    “The south shouldn’t be “allowed” to succeed, they should be pushed.”
    Draw a line around it. Do they get to keep their stuff?

  148. scott July 2, 2012 at 7:04 pm #

    My back(load bearing discs) and hips are fucked up as a soup sandwich and I can tell you that physical therapy works — especially if some hot woman is smelling around and dragging her breasts over you when showing you how to move your hips.
    I walked in, could barely walk and my body was shaped like a question mark. Walked out standing tall and feeling pretty good.

  149. messianicdruid July 2, 2012 at 7:04 pm #

    “MD, endemic would mean localized…”
    The context was the US as opposed to the UK.

  150. xport July 2, 2012 at 7:07 pm #

    Very interesting rant here.
    Check it out.
    More stuff on youtube from him.

  151. scott July 2, 2012 at 7:09 pm #

    There is not a non-invasive doctor out there that will not send you to a surgeon if you need it but you should definitely hold out for non-invasive treatment for as long as possible.

  152. turkle July 2, 2012 at 7:10 pm #

    Doing what again?

  153. Cosmictraveler July 2, 2012 at 7:14 pm #

    Does the government “care” about your health?
    No the government “cares” about command and control. Big pharma “cares” about getting you jacked up on “their” product. Big Agra “cares” about feeding you GMO. Multi-National Corps. “cares” about you consuming aspertame and high fructose corn syrup. It comes full circle the US leads the world in cancer, heart disease, and diabetes. Now that you are sick your wealth can be sucked from you by these interconnected corporations. Weak in body in mind and Agenda 21 gets pushed down your childrens throat.

  154. turkle July 2, 2012 at 7:15 pm #

    Oh, I forgot. I agreed not to launch any more intellectual barbs at the imaginary sky god contigent. It hurts their feelings and damages their fragile egos.
    Yeah, well, that was last week. Mwuhahahahahahaha!

  155. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm #

    OK, let’s hope it doesn’t become pandemic!

  156. turkle July 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm #

    Um replied to wrong comment. Yoops.

  157. Tark July 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm #

    Don’t really care about her as an actress, or person for that matter, but she has aged really well*. Last time I looked…
    *Unless she had help with her looks.
    She may actually be a GILF. There, I said it.

  158. Cosmictraveler July 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm #

    Kyooshtik – start with yourself and be an example as a productive educated self sufficient model. Ain’t nobody listening, but they do copy what they see in action….

  159. anti soak July 2, 2012 at 7:31 pm #

    Dale, the exposes about Osho are wonderful in unmasking him!
    He was so Vain!!! He decided he looked bad bald, so after that day, NEVER went in public w/o a head covering!
    In one video he had socks that didnt match the rest of his outfit, so was unhappy, maybe scuttled the video.

  160. anti soak July 2, 2012 at 7:33 pm #

    Great article about Slavery, and its history at Taki.

  161. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 7:35 pm #

    Thanks for bringing up Agenda 21, which focuses on sustainable development, social equity, and economic prosperity. I did not know it was being “pushed down childrens’ throats” … it would be great if that is true.
    More than 178 nations adopted Agenda 21 as official policy during a signing ceremony at the Earth Summit. US president George H.W. Bush signed the document for the US. In signing, each nation pledges to adopt the goals of Agenda 21.
    In 1995, President Bill Clinton, in compliance with Agenda 21, signed Executive Order #12858 to create the President’s Council on Sustainable Development in order to “harmonize” US environmental policy with UN directives as outlined in Agenda 21.
    The EO directed all agencies of the Federal Government to work with state and local community governments in a joint effort “reinvent” government using the guidelines outlined in Agenda 21.
    So, I see it is being implemented among adults, in local governments, but childrens’ throats do not seem to be involved.

  162. anti soak July 2, 2012 at 7:37 pm #

    ‘The quality of life would be much improved if our life…..ETC’
    Uh, that doesnt include those who get killed off!
    The quality of life would be much improved FOR THOSE UNDER 65 TO THAT AGE, IF THERE ARE NONE PAST THAT AGE.

  163. Cosmictraveler July 2, 2012 at 7:38 pm #

    Asoka – you will love being a “good slave”
    The “authorities” have your back and your utopia will soon be here….

  164. BeantownBill July 2, 2012 at 7:39 pm #

    Believe it or not, my lower disk (L5) and my hips/pelvic area are not great either. I did go to physical therapy and it worked; plus they gave me exercises different from the ones I had always done, and I’ve been much better since. Unfortunately, that was when I could have used a naked Pamela Anderson, but instead I got a guy PT (dressed). Dang!

  165. messianicdruid July 2, 2012 at 7:39 pm #

    “Doing what again?”
    I was thinking you swore off of starting arguments about “religion” because all the rest of us were ignorant #u@%$, and it was such a waste ofr effort.

  166. anti soak July 2, 2012 at 7:39 pm #

    You are a victim of a logical fallacy.
    Just because there are some who couldnt care less, there are some who could care less.

  167. Cosmictraveler July 2, 2012 at 7:43 pm #

    Are you killing all people over 66 Kyooshtik?

  168. Cosmictraveler July 2, 2012 at 7:44 pm #

    Sorry Kyooshitick. That was Anti-Soak… Oh my…

  169. xport July 2, 2012 at 7:50 pm #

    Predictions for the next election:
    Obama wins in a landslide.
    He is at least 50 times more eloquent than Romney.
    Not that the general public cares about that.
    He has done a serviceable job in his current term.
    In a man to man debate he will make mincemeat out of Romney. No contest. Obama wins hands down.
    And let us stand behind him and help him to promote America. He is a phony Nobel Prize winner, but he may grow into the role. If you do not like it, then make it a point to solve the problem.

  170. xport July 2, 2012 at 8:04 pm #

    Very wishful thinking. Csn you suggest another kind of thinking? If so tell us your thoughts.

  171. Cosmictraveler July 2, 2012 at 8:06 pm #

    xport – Obama and Romney are puppets…..
    Central Banks, Multi-National Corps. and Arms Makers currently run plantation Earth….

  172. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 8:09 pm #

    Q, you feeling old and want to croak – you’re older than 67?
    Not at all. Don’t forget, 67 is an average. Kirk Douglas would be way out on the far right side of the bell curve.

  173. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 8:17 pm #

    Csn you suggest another kind of thinking?
    Yes, I csn.
    Face life as you find it and make do as best you can. Do not exhaust yourself playing Don Quixote.

  174. helen highwater July 2, 2012 at 8:24 pm #

    Wherever did you get the idea that the Occupy movement is into the radical expansion of government? That is not my take on it at all.

  175. xport July 2, 2012 at 8:28 pm #

    Hey Beantown,
    You are lucky to live in a great and wonderful city.
    Boston is one of the best places in the world.
    So you found some health care and now you are doing ok. I happen to be good friends with my doc. But my son got HIV and ran up over a million dollar medical bill and died in the hospital. I watched his beautiful hair fall out and his gorgeous body crumble. He loved the band the Who, and would play the song “My Generation” so I guess he got his wish and died before he got old.
    Well, you know it and I know it too. We are all just passing thru.
    I could say something inane, like “have a nice day” or days or life. If we examine the history of the world we find that there were not so many nice days.
    So it goes.

  176. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 8:33 pm #

    Kyooshtik – start with yourself and be an example
    As I reminded Bean, 67 is an average, not an outer limit.
    I’m 71.5 years old and in fairly good health. I have told my wife and kids to take no extraordinary means to extend my life. Make a reasonable judgement call on “pulling the plug.”

  177. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 8:41 pm #

    Now you’re talking. Let’s keep the Northwest for Whites.
    The 10,000 a year idea has been put forward by Charles Murray, co-author of The Bell Curve. But he’s not the first. It only makes sense and it would save so much – not least of all human dignty and creativity. And ambition would still be there. By definition, the stipend would be a bare minimum so most people would still want to work – and women would still select for achievment from men.

  178. Drew Keeling July 2, 2012 at 8:43 pm #

    Good news re the medical diagnosis. Hope the treatment goes smoothly and you can get back to bike-riding soon afterwards. Looking forward to reading the ‘Magic’ book.
    Could you maybe lure Duncan back for an occasional “reunion” Kunstlerkast talk (perhaps something like once every several months, instead of weekly)? Maybe tempt him with cheese doodles? The combination of the two of you together is also a kind of “magic” which we’ve haven’t had “too much” of.

  179. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 8:51 pm #

    Really hardhitting exposé, anti soak! Imagine! Mismatched socks! Why that invalidates Osho’s very existence on planet earth!

  180. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 8:54 pm #

    your utopia will soon be here….
    Soon be here?
    No, I am living it right now with every in-breath and every out-breath, going beyond enlightenment.

  181. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 8:55 pm #

    MD, endemic would mean localized, or only affecting a certain type of occupation.
    That’s right Asoka. Endemic was used correctly. Messi only spoke of two occupations, the training of doctors and air traffic controllers.

  182. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 8:58 pm #

    there are some who could care less
    This is a very valid criticism, anti soak.
    Republicans could care less, but when approached by members on the other side of the aisle they just said, “hell, no!”

  183. xport July 2, 2012 at 9:03 pm #

    Things maybe as you say, but we do not have any alternatives at this point in time. Making the best of a bad situation? What do you suggest?
    At least Obama has a command of the language, and can complete a coherent sentence; in fact he is the most dynamic and eloquent statesmen of recent history, HE GIVES A VERY POWERFUL SPEECH. We are all a bit unsatisfied with him, but being a puppet, as you say, he has to follow his instructions. So how about asking the puppet masters to give us a break?

  184. BeantownBill July 2, 2012 at 9:04 pm #

    I can’t begin to express how sorry I am for your loss. I have one child, and if something happened to her – well, I don’t know how I could cope.
    I am lucky to be living in the Boston area. We have an absolutely outstanding medical community here.
    I guess the best way to get by is to be philosophical about life, and to live each day one at a time. I’ve said for a long time now that if I wake up in the morning and can get out of bed, I’m already ahead of the game.
    Life is a blazing star sandwiched between two infinities of darkness.

  185. Paraquat July 2, 2012 at 9:05 pm #

    Quite seriously, consider “medical tourism” if you need to get that whole hip replaced again. I had very major surgery at Bumrungrad Hospital in Bangkok in 2005, and can’t recommend it enough. Cost a fraction of what similar care would have been in the USA, and it was better quality. I also understand that India is a good place for this sort of thing (you do need to choose the right hospital though) – there are places that cater to foreigners, offering world-class service.

  186. Ozymandius July 2, 2012 at 9:07 pm #

    Rub in the snake oil! Roflmao – not!
    And pay > $5000 up front?You got to be kidding!

  187. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 9:08 pm #

    No, Q., the context was medical residents and air traffic controllers. He indicated that the overwork and abuse was becoming “endemic” when he should have said it was becoming an “epidemic.”
    When called on it, he introduced a geographic element which had not been previously mentioned (USA vs. UK) to cover his ass.
    If he was talking about spreading around the world, to UK, etc., then the proper word would be “pandemic.”

  188. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 9:11 pm #

    A note to tightwads like me:
    I notice quite a few people here have bought Jim’s new book. I’ve read 3 of his books, TLE, World Made by Hand and The Witch of Hebron, all borrowed from my local library. Today I was at the library returning a couple of books and I stopped by the reference librarians desk and asked her “what is the procedure for recommending a book for acquisition by the library?” She handed me a little form to be filled out and then she said “hold on, maybe we already have it.” Turns out it is already on order and they should have it in a week. I’m first on the list to be notified when it comes in.

  189. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 9:12 pm #

    Life is a blazing star sandwiched between two infinities of darkness.
    That darkness is what we experience during a gall bladder surgery. That darkness is what we experience each and every night we go to bed and die into sleep.
    It’s really not so bad, that darkness. It has no positive existential characteristic. It’s just the absence of light.

  190. ozone July 2, 2012 at 9:12 pm #

    “Also,get rid of the Northeast from Boston to D.C. and the South wouldn’t really have a reason to s-e-c-e-d-e.” -T
    I get it now. It all depends on whose ox is getting gored at which particular time. I’ll keep it in mind for purposes of my own offhanded generalizations in future.
    Yeah, I guess the NE is just loaded with folks who are totally dependent on their suppliers, financial custodians and care-givers who reside in the southern states. Fuggin’ no-count slackers.

  191. anti soak July 2, 2012 at 9:13 pm #

    No, but but that post made it seem like Kyooshtik might be!

  192. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 9:14 pm #

    librarian’s desk

  193. popcine July 2, 2012 at 9:17 pm #

    Congratulations, JHK! You found it, Cobalt!
    Now you can be cured. You’ll feel a lot better. You probably do already.
    And let’s have no talk of your demise, we need you here, there is too much left to say.
    It’s your privilege to witness how things turn out: how far from the mark some predictions were, and how true the rest will be.

  194. xport July 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm #

    you did not miss much.

  195. BeantownBill July 2, 2012 at 9:23 pm #

    It seems to me that when I’m asleep, I still have a semblance of awareness. The darkness doesn’t bother me either, but I find it fascinating that my sense of time is totally gone. It makes me wonder if the philosophers are correct – that time is really an artiface of consciousness.

  196. dale July 2, 2012 at 9:25 pm #

    Well, gosh, it seems to me that even California and ‘Pacifica’ would welcome, and be much better off, absent some chunks of it’s own area. Starting with Berkeley and maybe as much as half of San Francisco, all of Hollywood,
    I beg to differ, healthy creative, progressive people would be the bedrock of Pacifica, much as it was in California until Reagan came along. Best university system, best water management, all the progressive government initiatives fueled the growth and productivity. California always pays far more in Fed taxes than it gets back, with that money, the issues with budgets would be over.
    Don’t feel bad, we’ll maintain a collective defense with other parts of the country. We’ll be the brains…..let’s see now, what does that leave for the southerners?

  197. dale July 2, 2012 at 9:27 pm #

    It makes me wonder if the philosophers are correct – that time is really an artiface of consciousness.
    Who cares what the philosophers think, they haven’t agreed on anything in 2,000 years? What matters is the Physicists are saying it now.

  198. BeantownBill July 2, 2012 at 9:27 pm #

    Yeah, but as a man, although I’d much prefer the real thing, experiencing the total Pam effect from an aesthetic POV doesn’t seem too bad to me.

  199. BeantownBill July 2, 2012 at 9:34 pm #

    True, but it sounded a little more poetic to say it that way.
    A lot of philosophy is bullshit, but not all. In fact, some of the most brilliant philosophers have said some pretty profound things. I will admit I’m no expert in this field, though.

  200. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 9:39 pm #

    He indicated that the overwork and abuse was becoming “endemic”
    I disagree. What he said was “That’s how we train air traffic controllers too. Maybe its endemic.”
    He didn’t say “becoming.” He speculated that that’s how it is in those two occupations.
    I agree that he erred in mentioning the UK.
    Again, stop being contrary for contrary’s sake. It’s among your most unpleasant personality traits. And please don’t try to counter attack with something about my OCD condition.

  201. messianicdruid July 2, 2012 at 9:43 pm #

    Make a reasonable judgement call on “pulling the plug.”
    A man and his wife were sitting in the living room and he said to her, “Just so you know, I never want to live in a vegetative state, dependent on some machine and fluids from a bottle. If that ever happens, just pull the plug!”
    His wife got up, unplugged the TV and threw out all the beer.

  202. xport July 2, 2012 at 9:44 pm #

    At this point in time explanation offered by physics to describe the universe has come together with metaphysics.

  203. messianicdruid July 2, 2012 at 9:52 pm #

    “When called on it, he introduced a geographic element which had not been previously mentioned (USA vs. UK) to cover his ass.”
    USA is the “locality”. The discussion was comparing the training of american doctors with doctors trained in another place. American ATCs are trained in the USA also, thus the use of the word “endemic”.

  204. Ozymandius July 2, 2012 at 10:00 pm #

    Medicine is both an art and a science. The art was developed to its fullest extent before the advent of modern medical technology. That is, before the entry of technologies such as nuclear medicine, ultrasound, CT scanning, MRI scanning and PET scanning. I learnt the essentials of my craft before the advent of any of these technologies; when all we had was the X-ray, a few antibiotics and Oslerian medicine. Taking a detailed medical history was the key back then; coupled with comprehensive physical examination. And that was only 40 years ago! Yet back then we lost a lot of customers because we could not look into their gubbins electronically. The tools we have today mean that many conditions that made it undiagnosed to the autopsy room in the past are now diagnosable pre-mortem. This is a Good Thing usually, provided that there is suitable treatment available. And many of the medications and surgical procedures that we have today are either life-extending or life saving. No doubt about that in my mind. But taking a proper history and performing a thorough clinic examination are still essential components of good clinical medicine. High tech tools are fine when utilised appropriately, but even today many good clinical diagnoses can be made without them. My feeling is that we older medical doctors are letting the side down if we don’t ensure that mastery of Oslerian medicine is ground into the psyche of the current generation of young doctors, and that they don’t rely solely on technology to give them all the answers.

  205. sevenmmm July 2, 2012 at 10:03 pm #

    Right on.
    I wish you luck.

  206. asoka.. July 2, 2012 at 10:05 pm #

    “That’s how we train air traffic controllers too. Maybe its endemic.”
    He didn’t say “becoming.” He speculated that that’s how it is in those two occupations.
    MD has now clarified that he wasn’t talking about abuse being endemic to those two occupations. He was talking about the training being endemic to the USA. In which case, he should have said: “Maybe its endemic to the USA.” That would eliminate any confusion about the meaning of the pronoun antecedent “we” and would clarify he was talking about America and not just talking about two occupations. sheesh.

  207. Buck Stud July 2, 2012 at 10:05 pm #

    You’re trying to be funny – I presume the alleged Wiki reference is a spoof – but the funniest comedians know their subject matter. Unfortunately, you (or the Wiki reference?) are completely ignorant on the subject: Zumba bears no similarity whatsoever with QiGong. One trains a high degree of mind/body integration while the other is mindless, albeit fun, calisthenics performed to music.
    Perhaps you will find the below link educational:

  208. Ozymandius July 2, 2012 at 10:10 pm #

    Amen, brother.

  209. Buck Stud July 2, 2012 at 10:10 pm #

    Well, the alleged “Wiki” reference is wrong: Zumba and Qi Gong are worlds apart(nice try at being funny though).
    Perhaps you might find the below link educational( and notice the juxtaposition between mindless calisthenics and Tai Chi):

  210. xport July 2, 2012 at 10:14 pm #

    You sound like a real doctor, someone who can help heal a wound. You call your clients a patient, and we must be, because you guys are still just practicing, like I practice my guitar playing.
    My friend’s father learned his practice in Iran.
    He told me a story about delivering a still born child in a barn, by hand.
    Both the mother and child perished.
    How do you live with that? He did, and has help thousands of mothers deliver life.
    Medicine is a miracle. Witch doctors, voodoo, it is all good. Take 2 aspirins and call me in the morning.

  211. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 10:15 pm #

    The discussion was comparing the training of american doctors with doctors trained in another place.
    Now that I’ve traced this thread back to the original comment by PRD I must agree with Messi…it began with a comparison of training in England vs “here.”
    “Endemic” was the right word to use and mention of the UK by Messi was appropriate and not a case of “cover your ass.”

  212. Kyooshtik July 2, 2012 at 10:32 pm #

    You’re trying to be funny – I presume the alleged Wiki reference is a spoof – but the funniest comedians know their subject matter.
    Yes, it was a lame attempt at being funny. I knew that zumba was not of the same ilk as the other activities but I wanted to toss in everything that my wife does. God forbid she discovers there is something called Qi Gong. As she heads out the front door I’d be saying “where’re you going? to your Long Dong class?”

  213. xport July 2, 2012 at 10:53 pm #

    This is a classic poem:
    by Percy Bysshe Shelley
    I met a traveler from an antique land Who said: “Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert… Near them, on the sand, Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed; And on the pedestal these words appear: My name is Ozymandius, King of Kings, Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair! Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
    Here is one of my favorites:
    met the Bishop on the road
    And much said he and I.
    ‘Those breasts are flat and fallen now,
    Those veins must soon be dry;
    Live in a heavenly mansion,
    Not in some foul sty.’
    ‘Fair and foul are near of kin,
    And fair needs foul,’ I cried.
    ‘My friends are gone, but that’s a truth
    Nor grave nor bed denied,
    Learned in bodily lowliness
    And in the heart’s pride.
    ‘A woman can be proud and stiff
    When on love intent;
    But Love has pitched his mansion in
    The place of excrement;
    For nothing can be sole or whole
    That has not been rent.’
    William Butler Yeats
    And this one from Yeats:
    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.
    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

  214. Vlad Krandz July 2, 2012 at 11:36 pm #

    Nah too many Mestizos and Blacks. Start at Redding and screen and deport those who don’t fit. No Libtards or Patriotards.

  215. Godozo July 2, 2012 at 11:42 pm #

    Thank God I’m not the only one who smells a rat in Robert’s “switch.” Robert’s switching of the mandate cost from a “fee” to a “tax” has ensured that a lot of people who could use the insurance will vote for its destruction…as well as some other things wrecked as well. Also, Robert’s allowing the states to refuse the extra money to cover the people just on the “good” side of the poverty line probably set up the precedent to allow the same states to cut off the rest of Medicaid in the future (and since the coverage for people under the poverty line is less than what’s promised for those above the poverty line, don’t be surprised if suddenly a lot of states balance their budgets on the backs of the poor when the dumping of Medicaid is allowed).
    I’m praying for you anyway, whatever you think of magic. Although a thought has cropped up – how many times has “the latest technology” turned around to bite its users in the butt? I’ll take my supplements no matter the risks implicit in trusting the suppliers, thank you very much.

  216. Bazz July 2, 2012 at 11:45 pm #

    The whole US seems to have gone stark raving mad over your medical system.
    What we have here in Aus is a medicare system where everyone can get basic GP services for free or with a small gap fee between the standard rate and the medicare refund. Most doctors charge the standard fee so no charge to the patient.
    Public hospital can be free, except for pharnacuticals and no choice of doctor.
    Medical Insurance is available to cover hospital with your choice of doctor and private rooms.
    Some years back I had two events in hospital with a stent fitted in my heart and with medical insurance the bill for a week came to $1500.
    Other patients there had the same doctor as I did and as public patients they paid nothing.
    Each tax year if you have income over I think, $50,000 you get a medicare levy. Not sure how much but reasonable I think.
    The employers are not involved at all.
    If you want the insurance you pay for it yourself.
    Mine costs about $3000 and includes dental and glasses as well as podietry etc.
    Medial car is not cheap, but it is affordable.
    If we can do it why can’t you ?

  217. Kyooshtik July 3, 2012 at 12:00 am #

    If we can do it why can’t you ?
    Because we’re fucked up.

  218. Pucker July 3, 2012 at 12:21 am #

    Can anyone explain the apparent ongoing debate between (a) those Peak Oilers who argue that everything’s screwed when it takes more energy to recover oil than the amount contained in the oil extracted versus (b) those who argue that the “net energy” argument is irrelevant because they will continue to extract oil regardless of whether it takes more energy to extract the oil than is contained in the oil as long as the price obtained from selling the oil is greater than the extraction price? Thanks.
    WASHINGTON. D.C. – As part of the Obama Administration’s commitment to deploying every available source of American energy and reducing our reliance on imported oil, U.S. Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus, Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack and Secretary of Energy Steven Chu announced new funding available to pursue new innovations in biofuels technologies, increase production of U.S. biofuels, and strengthen American energy security. The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), Navy and Department of Energy are announcing $30 million in federal funding to match private investments in commercial-scale advanced drop-in biofuels. The Energy Department is also announcing a total of $32 million in new investments for earlier stage research that will continue to drive technological breakthroughs and additional cost reductions in the industry.
    Advancing Commercial-Scale Drop-In Biofuel Substitutes for Diesel and Jet Fuel
    In his Blueprint for a Secure Energy Future released in March 2011, President Obama set a goal of reducing oil imports by one-third by 2025 and laid out an all-of-the-above energy plan to achieve that goal by developing domestic oil and gas energy resources, increasing energy efficiency, and speeding development of biofuels and other alternatives. Domestic oil and gas production has increased each year the President has been in office. At the same time we continue to take additional steps to reduce our reliance on foreign oil. As part of that effort, the Blueprint directed the Navy, USDA and DOE to collaborate to support commercialization of “drop-in” biofuel substitutes for diesel and jet fuel. Competitively-priced drop-in biofuels will help improve America’s energy security, meeting the fuel needs of U.S. armed forces, as well as the commercial aviation and shipping sectors. Today’s announcement of an available $30 million in funding builds on that commitment, helping to speed the development of biofuels for military and commercial transportation that will reduce the need for foreign oil and strengthen rural America.

  219. Shakazulu July 3, 2012 at 12:23 am #

    Oh Lord. We pray for JHK. We pray he may turn to the Lord and find the answers to all his questions. May Your Spirit reveal the truth to his soul. Then heal this sickness called doubt and fear, and prepare us all for the coming of Your Kingdom, now and forever amen.

  220. Kyooshtik July 3, 2012 at 12:27 am #

    His wife got up, unplugged the TV and threw out all the beer.
    Good one.

  221. xport July 3, 2012 at 12:30 am #

    Hey Bill,
    Thanks for your heartfelt comments. We will all get thru this together. Times are a bit tight, but you learn as you go. We make do. Get loud and get local. Say hello to your neighbor once and a while.
    I taught high school in the ghetto of Philly.
    Really hard core gang banger types. Some could not even tell time by looking at a clock. But they had street smarts. Never underestimate a human being.
    I learned a lot from that experience.

  222. Shakazulu July 3, 2012 at 12:34 am #

    “Roberts must know exactly what he is doing:”
    Ever since he walked away with that law degree, he’s been doing what he was trained to do–make money the easiest way possible. To believe that these people do anything because of their “conscience” is beyond naive.

  223. Kyooshtik July 3, 2012 at 12:53 am #

    Say hello to your neighbor once and a while.
    The expression is “once in a while.”
    I learned a lot from that experience.
    Namely, do NOT go into the ‘hood’ during two time periods: 8PM thru 6AM and 6:00.01AM thru 7:59.59PM

  224. Jimmy Drinkwater July 3, 2012 at 1:26 am #

    Love the blind and wounded as you would yourself and the businessmen in cells collecting pennies,
    Judge their wealth by coins that they give away
    And not the ones that they keep for themselves for spending.

  225. azgog July 3, 2012 at 1:42 am #

    Hostage racket: Every single thing in this country is now a racket, from health care to education to the food system. The highest purpose in life is considered to be making as much profit as possible, so everything is run by insiders who work to keep the peasants uninformed, sick and poor.
    If MDs had an ounce of honesty they would be calling out the fat/sweet food purveyors and the tobacco/alcohol producers but instead they just collect handsome fees sweeping up the human debris.
    Yesterday I rode Amtrak on a fine summer afternoon thru notably scenic beauty. Most people were looking at a screen, watching movies and playing card & video games (including one guy playing train simulator while ignoring the train he was on). You could walk the entire train to the last coach and gaze out the rear door window at the slightly hypnotic receding trackage and spectacular scenery. Not one person did.
    We have become a lazy, obese, stupid, avaricious and distracted people who are not present in their own lives and we are well on the way to getting what will result from this.

  226. birdmanifesto July 3, 2012 at 2:22 am #

    Doctors in China used to be paid when the patient got well, and they were not paid when the patient remained ill. Same as a car mechanic gets paid here in the “enlightened” west. Maybe we should pay the doctors a salary, as they do in France. And give them their education free, so they are don’t become drug dealers for big Pharma.

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  228. Widespreadpanic7 July 3, 2012 at 7:02 am #

    Jim, rub some gunpowder into that wound.
    Then douse it with whiskey.
    Above all, avoid hospitals, where nobody seems to speak English, and Mercedes Benz’s, Bentley’s and BMW Alpines ring the parking lot.

  229. ozone July 3, 2012 at 8:41 am #

    “We have become a lazy, obese, stupid, avaricious and distracted people who are not present in their own lives and we are well on the way to getting what will result from this.” -Azgog
    This is what I’m observing as well. What we’ll be “getting” as a result is certainly open to differing speculations, but chances are good that it won’t be a time for happy frolicking in verdant meadows. When people lose the comforts and conveniences they’ve habituated themselves to, they tend to get right nasty. (A friend who works in a local food pantry can attest to this, firsthand. Those of formerly middle and upper-middle class status are indignant that they’ve been reduced to needing donated food and take it out on those who work there. Guess that’s what happens when money and stuff are the only indices of “value”. The cumulative result of this supreme shallowness will be expressed in a despairing and suicidal barbarism, I believe. That’s how a concentrated and toxic blame-game usually goes.)

  230. ozone July 3, 2012 at 8:55 am #

    That’s a medical procedure that memories are made of! (And you get a nice blue scar to go with!) ;o)
    [Way off-topic: Did you get any hail from that band of fierce pop-up storms that came through on Sunday? Wow; we’re used to storms, but that flare-up nearly sent us to the cellar. Howling gusts that sent grape-sized hail pelting sideways and half of an inch of rain in a half-hour. That would be tornado weather, friends and neighbors, and it’s thundering through more and more often.]

  231. Hammering Truth July 3, 2012 at 10:06 am #

    The Supreme Court has ruled that Obamacare is (not) a tax: http://youtu.be/PjkkBhsjYXc

  232. Goat1080 July 3, 2012 at 10:31 am #

    New Threat: Derecho!!!
    We are entering the era of the Derecho – where, due to the extreme heating of human-induced climate change, massive storms with straight-line winds are wiping out whole sections of cities, towns and rural homes and structures. They are taking down the infrastructure – especially power lines – in much the way tornadoes do but they are not tornadoes, just ordinary thunder storms super-charged on the “steroid” of super-heated air. They are happening more frequently and with greater force.
    I have personally witnessed a couple of these Derechoes where the sky suddenly blackens and the rain is coming across the yard totally sideways and the trees are bending down as in a hurricane. Then there goes the privacy fences, limbs, basket ball goals and shed roofs flying and off goes the power. This is a new trend I suppose and a new threat as these things get only stronger in the future.
    This may drive society to a subterranean lifestyle where everyone either lives in “basement homes” or else play Russian roulette with the weather in their above ground homes. I mean the weather is beginning to get really wicked. The super high temperatures and super droughts – they worry me. No rain and sizzling temperatures for weeks on end and when it does rain it takes out half the town!
    Peak oil, crazy weather and crazy politics – three horsemen or what?

  233. Anne July 3, 2012 at 11:32 am #

    As an atheist, I can’t pray for you (to which god or saint would you recommend praying anyhow? Maybe Elvis?) but I do wish you well. Hip surgery can be scary. My mother died of complications after her last one…the third or fourth…but she was older, and had unresolved blood clotting issues of unknown origin. For some reason, that concerned me more than the doctors. But when you’re in a lot of pain, you’ll try anything I suppose.
    If doctors was their hands in the future, that might be an improvement, as I’ve been in plenty of examining rooms where they did not do so before the exam. Anyway, it seems probable you’ll have to be your own doctor for the most part. To which end I have stockpiled a few medical books and supplies, and started a medicinal herb garden. I guess most people who are paying attention have probably done the same.

  234. anti soak July 3, 2012 at 11:40 am #

    Does Race play into the ‘obesity racket’?
    Military recruits far more likely to be ‘in shape’
    when they are white?
    Just wondering.

  235. BeantownBill July 3, 2012 at 12:19 pm #

    O3, what azgog said about Americans is true; what you said will be the end result is probably true, as well. Why is this happening? Because of rapid technological advance.
    This is the end game of improper use of technology. But this begs the question of why we’re using it improperly – technology isn’t bad in and of itself, it’s just a tool. Try using a Phillips-head screwdriver on a flat-head screw. What happens? The same with technology.
    Technology is being used improperly because almost all of those we elect to make decisions for us are technologically and scientifically ignorant. When science comes face-to-face with greed, science always loses. Consequences of improper use are ignored.
    When a developer builds a shoddy house by using cheap or improper materials and poor construction nothing may occur at first, but sometime in the future the current homeowner will pay the price.
    Blame those who make decisions, not the public. You don’t blame the homeowner when his house starts to fall apart ten years later, you blame the developer.
    The only blame to lay on the masses is for naivete in being too trusting that others will not put their own self-interest first.

  236. Vlad Krandz July 3, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

    I’m so far ahead of the pack that it looks like I’m behind.
    I’ve been driven half mad by this secular culture. I was “built” to live in Dvarpa Yuga at the very least.

  237. Rhino July 3, 2012 at 1:11 pm #

    Why does a dog lick its balls? Because it can. Why can’t Americans fix their medical care system? Because they can’t.
    I know what you’re going to say. I’ll leave the creative wordsmithing to Kunstler. But I think this is as good an explanation as any.

  238. Barfy Barf July 3, 2012 at 1:15 pm #

    Maybe a solar flare will burn out all the electronic gadgets around the world. When people have to farm with horses and plows we won’t have strawberries from Costco that are 5 times the normal size. There won’t be shows with idiots eating 5000 calorie burgers and wearing rings in every part of their head and tattoos in their ear canals. A good plague will streamline the population. Moral people with good immune systems will survive, while Anderson Crapper and the gays can go drop into the Pacific Ocean after getting “married.” A good reboot will let us throw out the millions of pages of “laws” that have destroyed our country. No wonder when I go to a gun show there are thousands of white people, a couple of blacks and asians. Whites are gearing up for the next installment of Mad Max.

  239. Vlad Krandz July 3, 2012 at 1:15 pm #

    Your cynicism is too extreme. Imagine this: You are driving home late at night in a rural area. You come across a car that had jumped the embankment and crashed. You stop and investigate and fine a wealthy Hindu woman unconscious – with a diamond in her nose. Do you take the diamond and run or do you call for help?
    You’d help, right? Some wouldn’t. Now just as you are morally superior to them, there are some morally superior to you.
    From another angle: do you really think America was always this bad? Could we have gotten this far if so? I was amazed at Boston Big Dig: not only years late and massively over budget but they ended up doing a shoddy job. They acutally used bad concrete in some part. It leaks and wont last as long. It was a race to the bottom biddin wise. And those who were supposed to be watching didn’t want to know. Now could we have built the Coulee Dam like this? Technically we could do as good or better today. But would we? Could we – morally speaking?
    I get Man’s Fallen Nature, but Culture mediates it by allowing, exacerbating, or checking. We used to do alot of the last.

  240. Rhino July 3, 2012 at 1:23 pm #

    Poverty defined as prolonged deprivation of basic necessities surely concentrates the mind. The economic turmoil of the era of the Great Depression was a really shitty time but it did do some things for the survivors. It instilled certain habits and ways of thinking that laid the foundations for a stronger economic system ie habits of thrift, hard work, diligence, perseverence. That generation appreciated things that we take utterly for granted. Things like wearing shoes and eating your fill.
    I think that in the intervening decades we’ve forgotten the many lessons that the Depression era taught us, that prosperity is built on work and saving rather than debt, wild speculation and profligate consumption.

  241. Vlad Krandz July 3, 2012 at 1:25 pm #

    Fuckin A Barf. We know what’s coming. We see how the Feds have empowered minorities over Whites and look the other way – even now as Blacks are increasingly running rampant. Imagine what they will do when the checks stop, when the lights go out, when the police flee as they did during Katrina (except for the White Officers). The White Officers acted herocially and then ruined it by going around trying to collect guns from citizens. That’s what has to change.

  242. Vlad Krandz July 3, 2012 at 1:30 pm #

    Would you lick your balls if you could?
    But you are right: we are too divided. And nothing can heal the Divide. Separation is the answer – peaceful if possible, otherwise if not.
    Let my People go. I mean if they think we’re monsters and racists to being with as Dale does, they should be happy to let us leave.

  243. Widespreadpanic7 July 3, 2012 at 1:33 pm #

    No hail down this was, Oz, just some light rain. But I did see those storm clouds gathering on the northwest horizon and figured you might be in for it.
    I’ve been doing some trout fishing sort of up your way, that stretch of the Farmington River a little south of Riverton. The water is cold and fast running, the air is cool and fragrant, and the trout are pretty active. I remember when this place was crowded; today I’m the only one around; I have the whole river practically to myself. Maybe gas is too expensive, maybe everybody is at the casino, maybe everybody is at home, in dark rooms playing video games. I don’t know. I like it better this way.

  244. Vlad Krandz July 3, 2012 at 1:34 pm #

    I’ll check it out. Btw, when you tried to do the Microcosmic Meditation, did you remember to touch your tongue to your palate? That completes the circuit, literally the on switch.

  245. Vlad Krandz July 3, 2012 at 1:35 pm #

    The Earth belongs those who can appreciate Her.

  246. Widespreadpanic7 July 3, 2012 at 1:37 pm #

    Oh yea, Oz, the Fireplace is completely gutted, 80 years (1932-2012)of drinking history in a pile of rubble on Center Street.

  247. Widespreadpanic7 July 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    AntiSoak, this ones for you. Last spring at local State U a lesbian coed caused a big commotion when she went to campus police with a sheath of threatening and obscene letters she claimed had been slipped under her door over a period of time in the middle of the night. It was a big story in Connecticut and around New England. Pro Gay rallies were held on campuses throughout the state. The Governor weighed in. Campus police, which are really State Police, vowed to spare no expense in apprehending the culprit. After all, this was a ‘hate crime’ the worst sort of crime there is. At the rallies, heavily covered by local TV stations, there was a lot of hyperbole and fiery rhetoric. Everything eventually died down, but yesterday police made an arrest: the Lesbian Coed herself. They planted a secret camera in her dorm and filmed her planting the letters. Now she’s facing 25 counts of falsely reporting and incident and a host of other crimes.

  248. Jimmy Drinkwater July 3, 2012 at 2:42 pm #

    I judge a culture by the degree of personal honor exhibited. Think how much personal honor is in play in a society like say Mexico, or Columbia, or Yemen or Afghanistan or Angola?
    There used to an ancient code and it was called chivalry. The British officers code was a vestige of that and something I still aspire to. It meant if I was thinking about buggering your wife, I’d give fair warning so you could take a shot at me.

  249. anti soak July 3, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    I am way ahead of you……………….
    Lesbian couple FAKED hate crime by painting their OWN home with …
    May 18, 2012 – Caught: The Douglas County Sheriff’s Office in Colorado has issued a warrant … A lesbian couple that claimed their neighbors spray painted ‘Kill the Gay’ … the words that were spray painted on the garage and the placement of the … News in Denver, Colorado: Lesbian couple accused of faking hate crime …
    ‘FAKIN A HATE CRIME’ ?????

  250. anti soak July 3, 2012 at 2:59 pm #

    For the most part Taoism did not work for me…
    esp the Chi Gung.
    Marlin, I was talking to a pleasant old Black Man who runs a club at our local JC [smc.edu, home of the ‘ombudsperson’].
    He was saying he took classes there 17 years ago, there were about 30 ‘supervisors’, now there are 120?. He noted ‘thats 10 million that could be going to teachers’!

  251. anti soak July 3, 2012 at 3:04 pm #

    Remember the ‘Duke Lacrosse vs. Ms Magnum’ mess?
    Do you know what happened to the ‘group of 88’ [or whatever they called themselves]?
    Promotions, money, fame.

  252. sotolvision July 3, 2012 at 3:12 pm #

    enjoyed your posting today, Jim, comme d’habitude. too much fun. thanx.

  253. asoka.. July 3, 2012 at 3:45 pm #

    Portrait of a third-world USA:
    A nation in hock clock.
    Electrons, nada más.
    Debt of $16 trillion?

  254. Tark July 3, 2012 at 3:56 pm #

    This weather doesn’t faze me. I’ve experienced worse in the South. Others are just now getting a taste of more dramatic weather and you already can’t handle it, ha.
    The storms I saw in my .immediate. area were not severe enough to knock the power off for days. They were very strong, but come on… This is only human incompetence and indifference in doing their jobs that’s involved. That attitude is rampant in MD.
    I don’t respect silly hysteria and chicken littles.

  255. Tark July 3, 2012 at 4:00 pm #

    “The South”
    Dale, you aren’t some incredible writer with amazing insight. The stuff you’re repeating is the same stale shit that I’ve heard for years. Come up with something new and interesting and I’ll get upset and excited, I guess.

  256. asoka.. July 3, 2012 at 4:05 pm #

    Marlin, I have been reading Connecticut newspapers and have not seen this story in Middleton, Hartford, Fairfield County, Bloomfield, Stamford or Bristol newspapers.
    Could you tell me where you saw the news of this arrest?

  257. asoka.. July 3, 2012 at 4:18 pm #

    Already halfway through 2012 and no Apocalypse.
    The forces of evil appear to be lazy and incompetent. They have less than six months left if they intend to break the back of the Judeo-Christian West by taking out Rome, Jerusaleum, and New York City by Dec. 21.

  258. asoka.. July 3, 2012 at 4:22 pm #

    Think how much personal honor is in play in a society like say Mexico, or Columbia, or Yemen or Afghanistan or Angola?
    The spellin is Colombia, not Columbia.

  259. asoka.. July 3, 2012 at 4:24 pm #

    The proper spelling is Colombia, not Columbia.
    Columbia is a university. Columbia is a clothing brand.
    The country in South America is Colombia.

  260. Goat1080 July 3, 2012 at 4:24 pm #

    I am in the deep South and have experienced several bouts of extreme weather recently, including tornadoes that killed two of my colleagues and wiped out a lot of towns. On top of that, these straight-line winds are picking up steam.
    This phenomenon is becoming so severe the Weather Service has coined a name for it – Derecho – a Spanish term meaning straight wind.
    I can handle the weather OK, so far, however, I have serious doubts many of the structures built around here can.

  261. asoka.. July 3, 2012 at 4:43 pm #

    I have serious doubts many of the structures built around here can.
    I agree. Many stick-built structures are vulnerable.
    Adobe structures can withstand the winds. Properly built adobe walls are vermin-proof, dust-free, fire-proof, flood-proof, insect-proof, bullet-proof, (yes, this has been tested), rust-proof, water-proof, and since adobe is non-toxic, the walls are non-allergenic. Did I miss anything?
    Evidence shows that earth construction has been in constant use for over 10,000 years. Today earth building is the most widely used building method in the world, with over 40% of the world’s population living in earthen homes, with the majority of these being adobe brick.
    The world’s largest adobe brick structure in Arg-e-bam, Iran. The origins can be traced back to the Achaemenid Period (6th to 4th centuries B.C.)
    If the USA attacks Iran, the USA military will rue the day … and woe be unto them.

  262. Vlad Krandz July 3, 2012 at 6:01 pm #

    Jews and Blacks have been caught doing similar. Rabbis painting swakstikas on their own Temple for example.
    We have to accept our own Greatness and stop tempting minorities to try and make us hate ourselves. All their charges about us are nonsense since they are here and not in jail.

  263. anti soak July 3, 2012 at 6:12 pm #

    And women crying ‘Rape’ who werent, etcetcetc.

  264. turkle July 3, 2012 at 6:17 pm #

    The North-South relationship is far more complicated and integral than “let them secede.” A high percentage of the Founding Fathers were Southerners, as were many of the first ten or fifteen presidents and a large number of the early Secretaries of State and other important government positions. Over the past 15 to 20 years, the South has done better economically than most of the big blue states like New York, California, and Illinois. Of course, now they have been hit really hard by the housing and financial crises, but that goes for most places in the US. The South was once an economic backwater, but this picture is not accurate either. Most southern big cities are probably doing better than your average rust belt ghetto town like Buffalo or Rochester.
    Also, the South has seen a massive influx of people from elsewhere, like the Midwest and East Coast. So the idea that it is just poor white trash down there is not accurate. From what I’ve experienced, racially the South is more progressive than many parts of the country that purport to be the most tolerant and integrated. Chicago, for instance, is the most segreated city in the country, I believe. From what I could see, there was a solid middle class black element in the South that was quite noticeable while this is not usually the case in the big northern cities. I know this sounds petty, but people down there, black and white, were so damn polite in day-to-day interactions. It was refreshing compared to what I’m used to.
    Anyways, things are always more complicated than we can represent in words, so please don’t intentionally dumb it down even further with this childish harping on the South (for what exactly?).

  265. turkle July 3, 2012 at 6:18 pm #

    I can’t even imagine what it must be like trying to intellectually negotiate the fetid passageways of your rotten brain on a daily basis. My condolences.

  266. dale July 3, 2012 at 6:59 pm #

    The stuff you’re repeating is the same stale shit that I’ve heard for years.
    Oh, you mean you’ve been hearing about how people would love it if the south did succeed, not surprised. I’d just like to be living in a modern country, we’d have one without a few of those states and their representatives.

  267. dale July 3, 2012 at 7:03 pm #

    South has done better economically than most of the big blue states like New York, California, and Illinois.
    Of course, in all their wisdom our elected leaders have allowed the states to enter into a competitive race to the bottom, on wages, benefits and working conditions, a race the south usually wins.
    All in all, I’m not interested in getting in a fight with the south, I just think we’d have a lot better country without them….that’s all.

  268. dale July 3, 2012 at 7:07 pm #

    I agree. Many stick-built structures are vulnerable.
    Adobe structures can withstand the winds. Properly built adobe walls are vermin-proof, dust-free, fire-proof, flood-proof, insect-proof, bullet-proof, (yes, this has been tested), rust-proof, water-proof, and since adobe is non-toxic, the walls are non-allergenic. Did I miss anything?
    Yeah, knowledge…..why do you think countries with those adobe structures have so many fatalities during earth quakes? What you refer to as stick built structures are structurally the safest residential buildings you can build. If you want to live in a mud hut or a cob house (what ever that is) go for it, I couldn’t care less, but facts are facts.

  269. asoka.. July 3, 2012 at 7:15 pm #

    I pledge allegiance to the Earth,
    And all the life which it supports,
    One Planet, in our care, irreplaceable,
    with sustenance, and respect for all.

  270. asoka.. July 3, 2012 at 7:27 pm #

    “fact are facts”
    Do you know of any 6,000 year-old stick built houses? Did you click on the link to the thousands of years old adobe structure in Iran? Yes, traditional adobe structures have been damaged by earthquakes, but new structures are a different story.
    FACT: adobe structures can be built seismic-resistant.
    FACT: due to its low cost, adobe construction will continue to be used in high-risk seismic areas of the world.
    FACT: based on the state-of-the-art research studies and field applications, the key factors for the improved seismic performance of adobe construction are:
    1. Adobe block composition and quality of construction.
    2. Robust layout.
    3. Improved building technologies including seismic reinforcement.
    Here is a link to a tutorial from the Earthquake Engineering Research Institute Mitigation Center:
    A lot of the work on this is being done in Peru.

  271. asoka.. July 3, 2012 at 7:38 pm #

    Yeah, knowledge…..why do you think countries with those adobe structures have so many fatalities during earth quakes? What you refer to as stick built structures are structurally the safest residential buildings you can build.
    OK, dale, I’ll give you some knowledge on stick-built houses, based on personal experience from living in them as a child.
    dale, the next time you’re in a stick frame house, really stop to think about what the house itself is made of. It’s actually just a thin shell of wood sticks covered with sheetrock (chalk and paper) on the inside, and often fiberboard (sawdust and toxic glue) on the outside. The materials in these stick frame houses are like a ticking time bomb. You know they’re going to fail before too long and cause untold problems.
    The wood will crack, bow, bend, split and attract all sorts of pests like termites. And stick built houses burn like crazy. Engineered wood products (OSB, etc.) off-gas toxic chemicals in fires that actually kill more people than the flames.
    You can hear and feel the wind blowing through the walls of a stick frame house on a cold, windy day. Sit for a few minutes by a window or put your hand in front of an electrical outlet to feel the breeze coming through. That’s why heating and cooling bills are astronomical.
    Try not to breathe while you’re in one of these conventionally built houses. A typical home has hundreds of volatile chemicals and because of this the number of people suffering from sick building syndrome is on the rise. Almost every product in these new homes off-gas chemicals that endanger one’s health.
    Also, mold is an ever-present danger in stick frame houses, especially in humid climates, basements, bathrooms and kitchens. Particle board cabinets, heating ducts, paper facing on sheetrock, and other materials all foster the growth of mold.
    And, frighteningly, stick frame houses are a death trap in hurricanes and tornadoes. Just ask residents of Greenburg, Kansas whose houses were wiped off the map, or those from New Orleans.
    Stick frame is no match for nature’s fury, whose storms are increasing in size and intensity almost yearly.
    Adobe brick construction is a completely different story

  272. ozone July 3, 2012 at 8:28 pm #

    We must be just as much hostage to the racket that constantly rattles the inside of our craniums as anything else. Need proof? (I didn’t think so.)

  273. asoka.. July 3, 2012 at 8:42 pm #

    Very astute observation, ozone. That is why meditation (state of no-mind) is important, and provides health benefits as well, as documented in the medical literature.
    In July 2012 a study was published (Explore (NY). 2012 Jul;8(4):237-42.) comparing individual preferences for four meditation techniques: zen, vipassana (mindfulness), mantra, and qigong (which we have discussed on CFN this week).
    The research was done at the Institute for Holistic Health Studies, Department of Health Education, San Francisco State University.
    A significant number of studies have been published examining the mind-body effects of meditation and its clinical efficacy. There are very few studies, however, which directly compare different meditation methods with each other to explore potentially distinct mechanisms and effects, and no studies comparing individual preferences for different methods. As preference is seen as an important factor in consumer healthcare decision making, greater understanding of this aspect is needed as meditation becomes a more widely used therapeutic modality.
    Participants learned two open observing meditation techniques — Vipassana (Mindfulness) and Zen, and two focused attention techniques — Mantra and Qigong Visualization and the research revealed that significantly more participants chose Vipassana or Mantra meditation as their preferred techniques compared with Qigong Visualization and Zen.
    However you do it, we can free ourselves from the racket that constantly rattles the inside of our craniums.
    Great comment, ozone! Thank you!

  274. turkle July 3, 2012 at 8:46 pm #

    “I just think we’d have a lot better country without them”
    Haha. Okay bud. Fair enough.

  275. Jam47 July 3, 2012 at 8:50 pm #

    When I was growing up (sixties), everyone said “Couldn’t care less.” Nowadays, all I hear and read is “Could care less.” Why the change? When someone is about to use the second version, the current version, how come it doesn’t occur to them that the meaning they desire to convey isn’t going to be logically conveyed at all?
    Many nations have suffered tyranny, and the causes of tyranny are of course several. But, as per Orwell, the imprecise use of the national language is surely among them.

  276. Iona Laundramat July 3, 2012 at 9:08 pm #

    However you do it, we can free ourselves from the racket that constantly rattles the inside of our craniums.
    How ironic that the ‘racket that constantly rattles the inside of your cranium’ is constantly rattling on this blog.
    Let me suggest a corollary to your meditation practice: Don’t post anything for one day. Only one day, soak! Can you do it? Quiet the mind!
    Judging by how often you post here my guess is you like to talk the talk of meditation, but in no way can you walk the walk of it. Perhaps it makes you feel ‘erudite’ to go on about it here. If you actually practiced meditation with any facility you wouldn’t post here as often.
    One day, soak! I challenge you.

  277. turkle July 3, 2012 at 9:15 pm #

    “If you actually practiced meditation with any facility you wouldn’t post here as often.”
    Some people practice meditation from 15-30 minutes a day, which is fine, leaving plenty of time for posting to CFN. Or were you making a more philosophical point rather than one about time management?

  278. asoka.. July 3, 2012 at 9:32 pm #

    One day, soak! I challenge you.
    Iona Laundramat, I accept your challenge. I will not post for minimum post-free period of 24 hours, starting now, on the condition that your follow-up post not be: “Two days, soak! I challenge you” etc.
    I will use the next 24 hours enjoy the blissful state of no-mind meditation.
    Thank you!

  279. Iona Laundramat July 3, 2012 at 9:35 pm #

    The soak obviously had a lot of time on his hands. My point was that if soak has actually experienced any benefits from meditation he would post less and, when in the process of posting here might actually have more to say.

  280. Iona Laundramat July 3, 2012 at 9:38 pm #

    I won’t be the only one enjoying the break, soak.
    Thank you!

  281. progress4spam July 3, 2012 at 9:59 pm #

    “I won’t be the only one enjoying the break, soak.
    Thank you!”
    – iona dry cleaners-
    Thank you, Iona.
    Asoak’s all-seeing and all-knowing blather is the primary reason I’ve been avoiding this blog of late.
    That, plus the fact that JHK’s webmaster or software keeps banning my logon names.
    So, it was nice to see your post.
    Weoweyou, iona!
    That said, thanks to JHK for this week’s work.
    Very thought provoking, as usual.
    Good luck with your health issues! And yeah, I’ll be happy to pray for you, if only to annoy the resident CFN Atheists. (one can’t really annoy a real (small “a”) “atheist,” in my opinion)
    Once you’ve had the hip replacement you are more locked into modern medicine than you otherwise would be. So, good luck with the good fight, man. As many other posters have mentioned, the world needs you and your voice, JHK.
    Some other voices, the world could do without.
    The poster formerly known as progress2conserve

  282. progress4spam July 3, 2012 at 10:31 pm #

    One more thing, to you South-Bashers, who keep making the snide points about how much better the US would be if the South would NOW secede.
    First of all, screw off.
    Secondly, we tried to secede, and were emphatically blocked.
    In the swirling mists of history there is the possibility that a rational person should argue that secession – leading to a smaller, less powerful, and less “united” United States – would have been a better outcome for genuine human freedom and peace on planet Earth.
    But that genie won’t go back in that bottle.
    And now you’ve all got to live with us.
    Serves you right, I reckon.

  283. jiuzhaigou July 3, 2012 at 11:25 pm #

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  284. Kyooshtik July 3, 2012 at 11:51 pm #

    I will use the next 24 hours [to] enjoy the blissful state of no-mind meditation.
    Asoka would have you believe he sits in a lotus position, legs crossed, backs of hands on knees, index fingers and thumbs forming little circles, eyes closed with a thought cloud over his head with nothing in it. But let me tell you what’s in his thought cloud:
    “Ummm, let’s see…a quart of milk, a jar of Skippy, bag of cough drops, pick up shirts from cleaners….AARRRGGH! my fuckin knees are killing me.”
    THAT is your typical meditation thought cloud.

  285. charliefoxtrot July 4, 2012 at 12:03 am #

    prog, with all due respect, you said it wrong: oughta go something like, ‘all of y all FUCK off’; i ve been a few places out there, and fuck buffalo…you goddamn yankees with your two month growing season would never have made it without us…you, for the most part at least, can t fin drive to save your lives; you haven t the slightest idea of what constitutes good manners- ever try to hold a door open for some stuck up her own twat dkny- wearing transplant? well you ignorant twit, it isn t because i think you can t open a door- even if that s what it looks like- it s because you shouldn t have to…the reason dale and others look down at us as a people is because you can t say ‘nigger’ or ‘spic’ or ‘kike’ or any of the other recognized slurs; but you can still say ‘redneck’ & ‘hillbilly’- and apparently humans have to have a scapegoat in order to feel less insignificant in the face of the night sky, or something….take a look at yourself, dale, and try to reconcile the evil that you just spewed forth into the world with your own self-concept…can t do it if you re honest…i would suggest that you do some research into the history of ‘the south’ and just who comprised most of the population…now, just because i live here and like most of the people i meet, does not mean i am racist or agree with the institution of slavery…how about you? ever hear of the shirtwaist fire? slavery in a factory or steel mill is slavery if they were children, whether or not they were paid a pittance…so i would submit that nobody had a monopoly on being the monsters; we just got blamed for doing the same thing with our agrarian economy as y all were doing with industry: whatever available means to increase profit…and further, since we ve become the last people it is somehow socially acceptable to denigrate out of hand and sight unseen, it is my considered opinion that it is up to you and your ignorant ilk to back the fuck off, make some apology, and embrace the healing process of MOVING FORWARD…maybe 150 years of respect will allow us to forge together as a nation again…til then, i kindly and graciously beg you to consider my words, then shut the fuck up

  286. charliefoxtrot July 4, 2012 at 12:08 am #

    …can t resist…i was under the impression that asoka’s presence here WAS his “no-mind” meditation…!

  287. anti soak July 4, 2012 at 1:09 am #

    2012 CHICAGO – Today Mayor Emanuel announced the Office of New Americans (ONA) Advisory Committee – a committee of advisors to generate recommendations, develop strategies, and present an overall vision to promote the City’s economic vitality and ensure global competiveness [sic], by becoming the most immigrant friendly city in the world……………………………..

  288. Vlad Krandz July 4, 2012 at 2:02 am #

    No it’s time to try again. Experiments don’t always work the first time – often don’t in fact. Same with Revolutions.

  289. Vlad Krandz July 4, 2012 at 2:09 am #

    The South lost the war but won the Peace. People all over America hate Northerners because of it. But it’s all in the subconscious – like you, most of them embrace the “Blacks are great/Whites suck ideology.
    So don’t point the finger too much. You have alot of inner work to do as well. Start loving your Race and stop wildly exaggerating the importance, virutes, and IQ of Negroes.

  290. charliefoxtrot July 4, 2012 at 3:20 am #

    dipshit, We, The People lost that war just like every other war that has been drummed up
    and i ll ask you again, wtftstf are you talking about? when have i indicated that i think ‘blacks good; whites bad’…? for your information, again, jackass, i recognize no difference in the percieved superiority or inferiority of the lifeforms on this planet: DNA is DNA is DNA; we are all family- you, for example, are my DISTANT, idiot cousin…maybe a thousand times removed, thankyouverymuch!

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    P2C, Turkle,
    I’ve read parts of the south didn’t celebrate 4th of July for a long time because it was on the July 4, 1863 that Vicksurg fell. Lots of soldiers from around here (Connecticut) are buried in cemeteries around Vicksburg, Mississippi.
    One thing that really come thru in Jim’s new book ‘Too Much Magic’, is that he does not like the South, not at all, blaming many of our current troubles on that section of the country.
    Happy July 4, CFNers. ‘Old Glory’, long may she wave, long may she wave.

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  296. progress4spam July 4, 2012 at 8:39 am #

    Yeah, Marlin, I hope you have a great 4th, too.
    JHK’s South-bashing is a fairly common theme, one that is so common and so politically correct that most of us (north or south) accept it without question and without much offense.
    It’s just a literary device and mental shorthand, in other words. JHK blames “the South” for the world’s problems in the same way that Vlad blames “the Jews.”
    And the world spins forward thru space and time, with little regard to what any one of us humans thinks – about anything.
    I think I’m finding myself closing the circle on this blog, on blogging in general – maybe.
    But I’ll close with a reprint of one of my very first posts, ever on CFN, from two years ago – in response to JHK’s “My TEA Party.” It’s in the CFN archives.
    progressorconserve | July 5, 2010 10:03 AM | Reply
    Great article, Jim.
    I was at fireworks last night on the drill field at the local college.
    Stretched out on blankets with my sons, the grandson, the daughter in law, the girlfriend in law,…and some friends of theirs that I had not even met, yet.
    And I’m looking around by the glare of the explosions; looking all the way into the heart of Georgia.
    And I’m thinking whether by long slow slide or exciting collapse…..that there is no place on Earth that will be better for me to face the future of America.
    So I’m ready for the future you propose, JHK.
    And now I would like to devote my efforts on this blog to slowing down or stopping the future you propose.
    Because until it happens….there is hope!
    Thank you, Jim.
    Have a great week, CFN.
    God bless America!
    “Oil is cheap because we steal it from the future without regard to the cost.

  297. BeingThere July 4, 2012 at 8:39 am #

    Your Country Dead around the 4th of July
    Well not quite, but it is important to note here that the US is not a nation state anymore and we believe we live in a country run by three branches of government, with a constitution et al.
    A trade agreement is being forged outside the preview of congress that will render the law of the land useless in lieu of the TPP. That is Trans Pacific Partnership.
    [from Paul Craig Roberts: Information has been leaked about the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP), which is being negotiated in secret by US Trade Representative Ron Kirk. Six hundred corporate “advisors” are in on the know, but not Congress or the media. Ron Wyden, chairman of the Senate trade subcommittee that has jurisdiction over the TPP, has not been permitted to see the text or to know the content…….
    Corporations gain an unimaginable freedom while citizens lose all freedom and the rights that define their freedom.]
    The congress has been bypassed by this New World Order One percenter power tool abolishing accountability of foreign corporations to the government of countries to which they trade.
    In other words, there’s no way JHK can sue a company who manufactured his hip replacement if the issue was made in another country and he could in fact have legal issues since he would in effect be limiting their ability to make money.
    We (govt) would in fact also be liable to pay the costs of complying with regulations to those corporations.
    Currently, it is being negotiated between the US, Australia, Brunei, New Zealand, Singapore, Vietnam, Chile, and Peru.
    Roberts makes a point that he thinks the US corporations see an advantage for themselves over other governments and see US hegemony as a fait accompli, but it is in the long-run a free trade nightmare that makes the corporations far more powerful than the people and the governments that are supposed to serve the people.
    Say goodbye to your country and your rights.
    Why are we celebrating the 4th of July? The constitution is becoming null and void in favor of globalism the beast that just won’t quit.

  298. ozone July 4, 2012 at 9:12 am #

    “Why are we celebrating the 4th of July? The constitution is becoming null and void in favor of globalism, the beast that just won’t quit.” -BT
    All of a piece, and the various rackets that JHK alludes to are simply tentacles of this same leviathan.
    We should consider who Hillary and Timmy are really working for as they crisscross the world, cobbling together deals that haven’t the sanction of us “little people”. We’re simply subjected to the outcomes of their immoral machinations. This is the REAL sedition and treason, make no mistake.
    Wealth purchases the government; the government protects wealth.
    Is it time to declare independence yet?
    One if by land, two if by sea, three if by drone, four if by cop…
    Don’t let the mealy-mouthed sons-a-bitches in Washingtoon speak for you (especially today).
    Everyone have a safe, family and community oriented Fourth, whether you be from Norf, Souf, Eess or Wess!

  299. charliefoxtrot July 4, 2012 at 9:32 am #

    um, a slightly sarcastic ‘thanks; i needed another time sink right before i have to go work my ass on, while the constitution is used as tinder to light the fires blinding americans to the loss of our freedom…i ve read pcr over at info.info; hadn t searched for his blog til this am…prful stuff indeed…only the “right” (ha ha) people aren t reading his essays, i m afraid…but (really, this time) thanks for the heads up; fodder for the day, so-to-speak…have a goodun this year; grill somethin’, love somebody, and for fuck’s sake, stay cool as you can! see y all this evening

  300. ozone July 4, 2012 at 10:12 am #

    The wife and I were just talking about “people who need to see ______ ” (thus and so).
    We sure hear you loud and clear; the ‘net seems to be strictly entertainment for the vast majority, and any information gleaned is mostly by accident.
    That’s another “misallocation of [mental] resources”, IMHO. But, as applies to us all, ya sees what ya wants to see and ya believes what ya wants to believe. (I know, I know, some things are beyond disputation and Don Rumsfeld the Unknower.)
    I’m certain that those into serious research are using the potential of the www to its’ fullest, so I can’t beat on that meme too much.

  301. BeingThere July 4, 2012 at 10:51 am #

    Yep, O And C
    It appears that the agenda keeps moving forward while your average citizen is living in the alternative universe where they thing guns are going to help them.
    They keep yapping about LIBERTY and FREEDOM having no idea these concepts are being eroded with each passing day and no matter who gets voted in, it doesn’t change the outcome.
    For those of us who are watching the process, they don’t seem to care what we notice–it’s inconsequential.
    We tell eachother what we witness anyway…
    Have a good grilling day–we’re having ribs tonight!–and watch fireworks from the terrace.

  302. ozone July 4, 2012 at 10:52 am #

    One last note on the knock-on effects of the “Hostage Racket” (the perfect vision of our med.care ‘industry’, btw), then I gots to git.
    Here’s a mortally pointed comment on events of yesterday from some wag in our midst (The Prodded Awake contingent):
    “GlaxoSmithKline is adjudged guilty of crimes. So when will Glaxo show up at the maximum security prison to do hard time, now that corporations are people too?”
    I have no answer, but it sure is a puzzlement how that all washes out.
    Good night Nurse; don’t blow yer fingers off.

  303. dale July 4, 2012 at 11:02 am #

    Asoka, you just hate everything you grew up with, and everything you didn’t grow up with is better, right?
    Listen, I don’t know or particularly care about alternative building methods at this point, I’ve lost interest. I can tell you that for about five years I was asked to evaluate just about every odd ball building method that could be devised by anyone who was politically connected and wanted funding for same in the state of Oregon. I saw it all, believe me. Without fail they didn’t live up to the hype, not always because of their actual qualities, sometimes because of the cost associated with building things that weren’t conventional. Unconventional is spelled “expensive” in the building industry.
    The simple truth is all of these other methods work, in the right locals for the right reasons. You find mud huts in the Sudan, for obvious reasons. We do stick built here for obvious reasons too, we have trees. Stick built has obvious cost benefits for ease of construction, that is if you want “luxuries” like in-house plumbing, insulation, electrical etc. In earthquake related areas it’s hard to beat stick built, ask the Japanese who started adopting it, and US building codes, in the 80s, after thousands of deaths. Maybe you can make adobe structurally safe in earthquake areas, but there are tens of thousands of fatalities in the last 100 years from versions that weren’t. (probably a thousand times the fatalities from stick built)
    Most of your complaints about stick built, (windy, sick building syndrome etc.) have either been remedied or are easier to remedy I’ll wager, than building a structurally sound mud house. If you or guys like Tripp want to live in an unconventional home, fine. I’m thinking that’s a lot easier to do when you are young, and if you have some other reason for doing it, other than practical considerations. Either way I don’t give shaktipat. Carry on.

  304. dale July 4, 2012 at 11:10 am #

    BTW — You stand inside of my house in a 60 mph wind and I’ll wager you’ll find it’s a lot quieter and less drafty than any mud hut you ever experienced. Tyvek, cellulose insulation, wood windows, caulk, metal flashing etc. all good stuff when used in the right way, and hard to duplicate in a mud hut.

  305. Hugh Culliton July 4, 2012 at 11:48 am #

    Jim: that’s horrifying. Although no system constructed by humans is perfect, it would be nice if your doctors would actually engage in professional discussion with each other. I remain confused by the whole US medical system. The more I learn, the more it begins to sound like at Jude Law film “Repo Men”. Now don’t get me wrong, up here in Canada, our health care system has problems too. But, unlike the fear mongering the GOP spews, we do get excellent care in good time. Case in point: I was presumed to have a heart condition. My testing and treatment began immediately. Of the million-dollar’s worth of diagnostics and drugs I recieved, I paid nothing. My wife developed hip displasia and needed surgery. From the time she was diagnosed untill she recovered from surgery performed by the top hip surgeon in Canada was 8 weeks. The cost to us: zero. Finally, when my mom died from cancer, all her treatment and the excellent palliative care she recieved also cost us nothing. By spreading the cost around to the entire population through a medical tax, the individual cost is much lighter. This also means that low income people can see a doctor on a regular basis which is more likely to catch serious problems early which is much cheaper than having to deal with illnesses discovered later. The shit vomited up by the COP/Baggers on health care is so wrong that one has to wonder if they’re all on the take or just profoundly stupid.

  306. SNAFU July 4, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

    Howdy Progressor, Been a while since we last tilted; therefore, on the offhand chance that you are serious, or semi, with reference to your comment clip: “I think I’m finding myself closing the circle on this blog, on blogging in general – maybe”, I submit the following two articles from AlterNet for you perusal/comment.

  307. Vlad Krandz July 4, 2012 at 12:48 pm #

    So the Jews have nothing to do with the state of America and thus the world? At less than 3% of the population, how many are on the Supreme Court? How many Senators? How many billionaires?
    Thank you. Just a bit of thought is all it takes. Mental Laziness of blaming Vlad and not thinking about what he says is your enemy – not me.

  308. Vlad Krandz July 4, 2012 at 12:56 pm #

    Yes, a Plutocracy. Please don’t say Fascism – that’s wrong and just insulting. If you want another “bad” word – Totalitarianism is also correct.
    Why insulting? Because we are the ones who knew first, the ones who tried to warn yo – and got mocked and laughed to scorn. Did I mention ruined and imprisoned as well like Ezra Pound? Sorry, many of the great literary figures were not liberals and it is simply revisionism to say they were. Read a biography of T.S Elliot or Yeats.

  309. Vlad Krandz July 4, 2012 at 1:09 pm #

    So all war is bad, chuckles? Even the Revolutionary War that created lead to the formation of America? Enjoy the fireworks, dimwit.
    We’re all related? Yes, chimps are over 97% the same as People. Wolves are basically identical to dogs, but what a difference in behavior! You see, a very small difference in the genotype leads to a big difference at the level of the phenotype, or expression. In the case of dogs and wolves, the hormonal levels are different.
    As for Blacks and Whites – the differences may even be greater. Not only are the hormones different, the size and shape of the brain. Some have said that we’re more differen than Chimps and Bonobos are – in which case we could be considered a different species.
    Races are families, chuck. If you had a baby with a Black woman, the baby wouldn’t look like you or act like you since White genes are recessive relative to Black ones. You would be far closer to me genetically than to your own son or daughter. A hard truth? Yes, quite hard for those who fall into this without thinking about it first. Watching TV and going to programming (school) is not thinking btw.
    Interesting fact: cross a White and a Autralian Aboriginee and the person will be far more like a White than a mulatto is. Although the Abos look just as alien as Blacks, in fact they are far closer to us genetically – and not close to Blacks at all. All peoples who left Africa are far more related than those who never left. Get a genetic diagram – Blacks are way out by themselves.
    So much for your “ideas” – nothing but media and “school” vomit.

  310. Kyooshtik July 4, 2012 at 1:36 pm #

    Nora Ephron, Nora Ephron, Nora Ephron… everywhere you turn it’s Nora Ephron. Who gave shaktipat about Nora Ephron till she died. And what if YOU die and the world doesn’t even yawn. Consider that.

  311. Kyooshtik July 4, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    I’m rooting for Andy Murray at Wimbledon. The Brits have suffered long enough.

  312. messianicdruid July 4, 2012 at 1:46 pm #

    Officials at CERN will finally be revealing their latest results in the search for the Higgs boson during a talk starting at midnight PT (3 a.m. ET) on July 4.
    Physicists have been eagerly waiting for this announcement, with hopes running high that the new data will pin down Higgs boson with enough precision to consider it discovered. Previously, LHC results have strongly signaled the existence of a Higgs with a mass of 125 gigaelectronvolts (GeV), or roughly 125 times more massive than the proton. More recently, rumors have been flying that suggest this talk will be the definitive announcement of the long-sought boson’s discovery.
    Every physicist in the world — and likely thousands of interested laypeople — will be watching to see what CERN scientists announce. On his blog, physicist Tommaso Dorigo, who works with one of the main Higg-hunting experiments at the LHC, described the scene in the lecture hall the day before the talk:
    “Analyzers are feverishly giving the last touches to the most important graphs, unfortunately exactly the ones that took the most time to put together. Conveners are busy producing text for the press conferences and interviews, and translating them to all known languages on Earth. Spokespersons are overburdened with the task of producing well-balanced talks which will be broadcasted worldwide and which will probably make history.”
    Much of the talk will be presented in dense jargon, accessible only to particle physicists. If you need help unpacking it all, check out the physicists liveblogging the event, including Aidan Randle-Conde from Southern Methodist University and Sean Carroll from Caltech. Randle-Conde will also be giving a post-talk wrap-up with physicist Stephen Sekula.
    Here is a link to the LHC webcam:

  313. Kyooshtik July 4, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

    Am I off topic, well then I’m off topic, I am large…

  314. BeingThere July 4, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    I have consistently referred to this global corporate neoliberalism as Inverted Communism and not fascism.
    Fascism is nationalistic in nature. It describes a system within the nation-state, that is the collusion of government with corporations with no rights to the people. However it embraces a strong nation.
    This is internationalism to the detriment of the nation-state, including our own. Our leadership may be seeking global military and economic hegemony, but It is the opposite of creating a strong nation–this is the pathway to dismantle it. Eventually NATO may be running the military aspect of this entity.
    I have often said these theorists read Trotsky and turned him inside-out for the desired outcome.
    All the world’s wealth in the hands of a few.
    I’m not sure why you put inaccurate words in my mouth, but although I don’t embrace fascism in any way, it is the opposite of my major complaint.
    Gotta go now.

  315. imapiscesfish July 4, 2012 at 1:58 pm #

    Whenever they have a bunch of cilantro at the farmer’s market I buy it and make up a big batch of pesto. I freeze what I won’t eat soon. I eat it regularly on salad or with chips. Cilantro is the best for chelating metals from the body. Be well.

  316. San Jose Mom 51 July 4, 2012 at 2:30 pm #

    Yeah stick-built houses in California!!
    Bravo houses bolted to the foundations with metal!
    Yeah water heaters strapped and bolted to wood in the garage!
    Thumbs up to my husband who screwed giant eye bolts into the wall and discretely secured my china cupboard– thus protecting the antique Rosenthal china inside.
    Hurrah to building codes and those who enforce them!

  317. ozone July 4, 2012 at 2:33 pm #

    And what if YOU die and the world doesn’t even yawn. Consider that. -kQ
    What’s to consider? When you’re dead, you’re done.
    Why? Does it frighten you?

  318. messianicdruid July 4, 2012 at 2:48 pm #

    Getting old is what its all about:

  319. Rhino July 4, 2012 at 2:50 pm #

    They should be pushed? Really? And who’s going to do that? Are you volunteering? And how do you intend to do it?
    I’d be a little bit careful with this line of talk. If you so revile southerners ie your fellow countrymen – you might be better off emigrating.
    The US had one go-round with a national breakup. Even if the north had been amenable to a divorce what about borders, what about other national assets, what about who gets ownership of the west? Do you think it would have been all roses with these issues being resolved with kindliness, fairness and goodwill? These things tend to get worked out in the shittiest way possible with a whole lot of people getting killed. We’ve seen a bunch of national splits. Nasty things they were.

  320. Tark July 4, 2012 at 3:48 pm #

    “What’s to consider? When you’re dead, you’re done.”
    Speak for yourself.
    Just as fundamentalist Christians, etc, need to learn to speak for themselves, so do atheists.
    Hopefully, when the time comes you’ll lie still, but I won’t be even close to done yet. 😉
    One life is not nearly sufficient. Particularly not such a limited life as this reality is usually.

  321. Tark July 4, 2012 at 4:06 pm #

    The wood-frame houses in the .present. day are flimsy. They were still sturdy and well-built as recently as the 80s. I know for certain they were strong and could weather a lot in the 70s; because my parents had our house built then, and they were still using three quarter-inch plywood and various other methods for making a house ‘tougher’.

  322. dale July 4, 2012 at 4:22 pm #

    I get a little tired of pushing back on this nonsense….and btw, it only comes from people who aren’t familiar with the industry.
    There is a reason why we don’t build houses the way they use to….they won’t let us! In particular the era of the 1970’s was one of the worst for housing construction and design, sort of like with cars.
    You are right about some of the materials in the old days being better, at least in terms of resistance to water, but that’s about it. Manufactured lumber is often stronger and better resists warping.
    Houses built in the last decade are usually 2×6 construction, have better windows, are better insulated, better mechanical systems, deeper and stronger foundations, than anything built in the 1970s.
    By the square foot they are cheaper to own, maintain, and more comfortable to live in.
    The only down side has to do with some of the composite materials requiring a close eye to prevent water intrusion, that is the only possible reason to prefer a home built in the 1970s, and that isn’t enough to make anyone knowledgable person choose the latter.
    There are exceptions of course, home built poorly, for example. The only difference is the badly built homes from the 70s aren’t here any longer.

  323. dale July 4, 2012 at 4:27 pm #

    I am large…
    you mean “huge” or “contain multitudes”, large is poor usage.

  324. dale July 4, 2012 at 4:33 pm #

    They should be pushed? Really? And who’s going to do that? Are you volunteering? And how do you intend to do it?
    I’d be a little bit careful with this line of talk. If you so revile southerners ie your fellow countrymen – you might be better off emigrating.
    initially my comment was in reply to the idea that we were somehow keeping the south in the union against their will. I’m all for ya’ll leaving if you want. I sure as hell am not keeping you here. Southern states are a drag on the rest of the country, check which states gets the most tax money back versus what they pay in. Southern congressmen certainly don’t have anything against welfare when it comes to their states.
    Believe me, if I were in my 20s again, I’d live the US behind me without a backward glance.

  325. Tark July 4, 2012 at 4:53 pm #

    I don’t really care to be familiar with the industry. I know what my surroundings were like and how comfortable and safe that house was.
    Maybe preference in design is in the eye of the beholder. Houses then, and until a point in the 90s, didn’t look like McHouse. If you want to talk purely architectural design, every house these days may as well be a clone of the other. They are mostly prefab houses in a sense. That wasn’t so in the not so distant past.
    Try driving thru a neighborhood and see if you can make your way by the style of house alone. You’ll never be able to single one house out.

  326. Tark July 4, 2012 at 4:56 pm #

    Why do you think that some southern states can be a drag on the economy. Think about it, Ms. Highpockets.
    Are you honest enough?

  327. San Jose Mom 51 July 4, 2012 at 6:20 pm #

    My house was built in 1984. Our prior house was built in 1929, a so-called “Willow Glen Charmer.”
    When the 1989 earthquake hit, we lost the brick chimney and we ended up having to inject a special, really expensive goo into the cracks of the foundation (at $2K per crack). Thus ended my romance with old houses.

  328. dale July 4, 2012 at 6:40 pm #

    Are you honest enough?
    An agrarian economy for centuries, followed by a lack of emphasis and interest in education across the board. Add to that, a commitment to evangelical christianity which is determined to remain as backward as possible, and you have a prescription for long term malaise. That honest enough for you?
    If it hadn’t been for the Civil Rights Movement, it would be much worse, as no modern corporation would think of having its production facilities in the Jim Crow south.

  329. BeantownBill July 4, 2012 at 7:38 pm #

    My condo was built in the late ’80’s. Imported Mexican laborers, who apparently didn’t know construction actually did the physical work. The developer used sheetrock as external sheathing under grade D clapboards. Over the years, building issues gradually lessened as re-construction replaced many of the poor materials and workmanship, but it was costly and time-consuming. Actually, our buildings are now much better constructed than the average in my area.
    It’s been my experience that quality of construction and materials began worsening in the mid to late 1960’s until the recent past. In the Greater Boston area land is very expensive, and union salaries are very high, thus making it too expensive for quality materials, and necessary for construction to be completed in a rush.
    In some areas, condominium unit owners have been hit with special assessments exceeding $100,000 each for repairs. In one newer condominium, the whole facade of the building loosened and began detaching itself from the main structure.
    Yes, some good construction materials have come into existence recently, but the results are mixed because of poor application resulting from shoddy building practices.

  330. BeantownBill July 4, 2012 at 7:41 pm #

    If you were in your 20’s today, you probably wouldn’t be worldly enough to know you should leave. Hell, you wouldn’t even know where Canada is on a map.

  331. Vlad Krandz July 4, 2012 at 8:53 pm #

    Dale, I want to be the first to congratulate you: the Higgs Boson “God” particle has been discovered. At last you have something to worship. Why not go on a pilgramage to Genevea – to the accelarator where it was discovered? Who needs Buddha and his no god now? Physics has disproven him!

  332. Vlad Krandz July 4, 2012 at 9:03 pm #

    My apologies. I inverted what you said. But you are wrong to say that the people in Fascist Nation have no rights – look at Japan, outwardly a democratic republic but inwardly something quite different. Of course there are bad Fascist States just like there are bad democracies… Actually all democracies are bad. Whu? Because they are invariably a lie. To the extent they are good, they are Republics.
    America is in the process of transforming from a Republic to a pure Democracy – that is to say, a Tyranny. What kind? A Plutocracy to be exact. Read Plato for further clarification.

  333. Vlad Krandz July 4, 2012 at 9:09 pm #

    Wrong Dale. It’s the Black Belt that holds them back the most. What’s wrong with Agriculture? Everyplace can’t be Southern California. Industry should be spread around more evenly.
    The Japanese opened up factories in place like West Virginia – far away from Black areas. Smart people.

  334. Pucker July 4, 2012 at 10:15 pm #

    If you think about it, cannibalism could have very real, practical advantages. I mean, why bother with all the hassle of gardening and raising your own food when you can just kill and eat the bloke next door? In fact, unless you need the bloke’s labor or need him to buy your stuff, then who needs him anyway? He’s just a competitor. You might be better off just cooking him in a big pot and eating him? In many ways, it seems that society is becoming cannibalistic anyway. For example, the financial system is obviously cannibalistic. And the health care system appears cannibalistic. And in America we definately eat our young. So….?
    “All of this province of New Spain and of those other provinces eat human flesh, which they have in greater esteem than any other food, so much so that many times they go to war and place themselves in peril only to kill some one to eat. They are commonly sodomites as I have said, and drink without moderation.”
    “Narrative of Some Things of New Spain and of the Great City of Temestitan Mexico”, pp. 79-80.

  335. Widespreadpanic7 July 4, 2012 at 11:46 pm #

    We’ve got a few houses in town built around 1640-1660, still standing and lived in, made from local lumber, hand made nails, and flagstone foundations. Many, many more from the 1700’s. The house I grew up in c.1831, sturdy as hell. These ‘stick’ houses lasted pretty good, and are handsome as hell.
    Some of these old places have been torn down in recent years, one to make way for a CVS Pharmacy, another to build a Package Store.

  336. BeantownBill July 5, 2012 at 1:14 am #

    You’re making me hungry, Pucker. How about coming over to my place tonight for supper?
    Some cable channel had a July 4th Twilight Zone marathon, and one of the shows was the “To Serve Man” episode.

  337. Widespreadpanic7 July 5, 2012 at 1:30 am #

    Yea Pucker, Soylent Green is people.
    Recently watched ‘The Road’ based on Cormac McCarthy’s novel by the same name. I don’t know, cannibalism, one of the main themes thruout the film, didn’t seem to appealing. Maybe its just me.
    BTBill, that was one of the best episodes.

  338. dale July 5, 2012 at 2:12 am #

    Yes, some good construction materials have come into existence recently, but the results are mixed because of poor application resulting from shoddy building practices.
    I will not deny that is often true, often true throughout the last 200 years as well.

  339. dale July 5, 2012 at 2:14 am #

    If you were in your 20’s today, you probably wouldn’t be worldly enough to know you should leave. Hell, you wouldn’t even know where Canada is on a map.
    Ha Ha. I was too concerned about getting laid in my 20’s to be worldly, but I sure as hell knew where canada was.

  340. dale July 5, 2012 at 2:15 am #

    Dale, I want to be the first to congratulate you: the Higgs Boson “God” particle has been discovered. At last you have something to worship.
    Ha! Vlad, unlike you I don’t need anything to “worship”.

  341. dale July 5, 2012 at 2:18 am #

    If you think about it, cannibalism could have very real, practical advantages.
    Welcome Pucker, you’re on my list for “goon from the moon” for July!

  342. Pucker July 5, 2012 at 4:21 am #

    “To serve the people…”
    With Mint Sauce…and a nice bottle of Chianti….

  343. Eleuthero July 5, 2012 at 4:43 am #

    Leibowitz Society said:
    Both political sides want a solution to solve health care, but the problem is that modern medicine is a product of excess material wealth and is going to vanish as we enter into collapse mode. Keep yourself healthy, don’t overeat and depend on medicine to save you, and understand that lifespans are going to become more realistic again as we enter the new Dark Age.
    I think I’m the only other poster, except for you, who uses the term “Dark Age” to describe what’s going to happen in upcoming years. I think language is important and it IS a “Dark Age” because ours in an age with self-congratulatory stupefaction and Roman excess all at once.
    You’re also absolutely correct about health care. It didn’t exist in my youth. It was a byproduct of our opulence starting in the mid to late 1960s. In my youth, doctors and hospitals had to adjust their prices to the level that their patients could afford. Now, because we have become accustomed to employer-supplied insurance, the care providers and drug companies just figure that fat corporations, which now must be increasingly lean due to the bankruptcy of consumers, can still be gouged as if it’s 1999.
    For the average person in America right now, I think personal wellness practices must become a very high priority item. That includes leaving the table before you’re stuffed, eating un- or minimally-processed foods, doing something with your free time besides TV watching and Internet surfing, and engaging in daily brisk walks or other sufficient but non-jarring exercise.
    This creaking monster cannot go on much longer. It cannot be ALLOWED to go on. This idea that two aspirin in hospital should be $45 or that a doctor merely looking at your post-surgical chart while you’re unconscious should allowed to assess a $300 fee MUST be prosecuted by the Justice Department.
    The medical establishment knows it’s a MONOPOLY and should be prosecuted as such. When you’re very sick, what’re you going to do … have an ambulance shop you around at the front door of two or three emergency clinics? It’s a freaking MONOPOLY. Time for the Justice Department to actually mete out what their name says they mete out.

  344. Eleuthero July 5, 2012 at 4:52 am #

    It’s too early to say that CERN found a Higgs Boson. Yes, it’s within the mass range expected of a Higgs but mass is merely one aspect of a particle. The good articles on the recent discovery of a mysterious heavy particle are careful to state that we’re still many experiments away from proving that it’s a Higgs Boson.
    For example, I didn’t see any statement about the SPIN of the massive particle. Remember that the particle, if it is a Higgs Boson, must have ZERO SPIN as this Boson is the only gauge boson hypothesized to be spinless unlike the other gauge bosons such as the W and Z particles.

  345. j0nx July 5, 2012 at 7:16 am #

    Unless you’re an illegal and then they say, “bienvenidos amigo! Sanitaria gratuita para usted!”. If you’re an American they tell you to fuck off. We continue to allow this shit with these illegals so we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

  346. ozone July 5, 2012 at 8:38 am #

    Dark Age it shall be.
    Ever read “A Canticle for Liebowitz”?
    Before the Great Crumbling, Devolution and true onset of the new Dark Age, one can dig this:
    Just why was health care access tied to working for corporations and industries to begin with? A not-so-subtle form of indentured servitude if we think on it.
    Lastly, why all the concern about corporeal health for those who claim their consciousness lives on forever and ever, amen?
    One would think they’d be nonchalant about shuffling off the mortal coil, as they’d get to getting their “reward” faster. Health of the flesh? Bah, who needs it when heb’ben awaits!
    (By extension, Xtian so’jers should be the most dangerous/foolish in world, due to having no fear of death whatsoever.)

  347. ozone July 5, 2012 at 8:40 am #

    In some locales, it’s also a team sport.

  348. ozone July 5, 2012 at 8:51 am #

    There’s a real touchstone of value for you.
    Raze a extant piece of colonial history to make way for shoddily built boxes that dispense drugs and booze.
    Perfect indicator of a cultural devolution. (Now, if we didn’t have all those brown people hanging about, this never would’ve happened! Where did I put my jug of Gatorade?)

  349. charliefoxtrot July 5, 2012 at 9:29 am #

    fitting that i m here this am bc i m sick- coughing, nose-faucet, puking, fever & chills…hope that s all…!!! i thought i would stick to this week’s theme, and offer an anecdotal “natural” cure: several years ago, my mother’s cat got mauled by a dog, and had a nasty gash on his head…she was fussing about it at work, and someone told her to pack plain old white sugar into the wound…ok, and with a few daily applications, it healed very fast (looked a couple of weeks old after just 4 or 5 days)…further, last year i had an ear infection that was literally killing me- high fever, super painful, and i could literally feel life ebbing…even tried ear candles, with little relief well, i remembered that damn cat, and in desperate inspiration, mixed some sugar with a little warmed almond oil (burt’s bees) and packed it into my ear & went to sleep- when i woke up, my ear had stopped hurting almost entirely, and i was back up and healing the day after…the sugar and oil had crystallized and expanded almost like one of those firework snakes, and turned brown and yellow from absorbing the infection…total cost at an emergency room would have been enormous; my version cost maybe four cents worth of common household supplies…works like a charm, lemme tellya!

  350. ozone July 5, 2012 at 9:31 am #

    The DruidGuy checks Kunstler’s new tome!:
    (There is some understandable/expected “quibbling” over the specific term “magic”, but that doesn’t blunt the message, or denigrate the messenger.)

  351. ozone July 5, 2012 at 9:41 am #

    Hope it ain’t the plague… Check for buboes!
    (Seriously, get mo’ better ASAP.)
    Great tip on ear infections. (Know lots of people that suffer from that, and incorrectly throw mountains of antibiotics at it creating more resistant bugs as a result.) Thanks.

  352. Kyooshtik July 5, 2012 at 12:28 pm #

    It’s too early to say that CERN found a Higgs Boson.
    Not sure why but sources such as the NY Times and Wikipedia (quoting from other authoritative sources) do not capitalize the b in boson. They also do not give possession of the boson to Higgs by writing Higgs’ or Higgs’s.
    I’m open for explanations.

  353. Vlad Krandz July 5, 2012 at 12:38 pm #

    Ramana as usual said it best: to the extent you are not experiencing non duality you MUSt worhip. So are you in non duality all the time “Dale”?
    This is what happens when ultimate teachings get popularized – the Dales get ahold of them and use them to defend and aggrandize their own egos. There was a good reason the Upanishads were once kept secret.
    Imagine if the utltimate reality of the Universe was a Dale particle; that Dale was everywhere – coexistent with time and space like Yog Sothoth.

  354. Vlad Krandz July 5, 2012 at 12:40 pm #

    Where are you going to pawn that diamond? Or are you going to launder it somehow? Well I’ve got Jews for you.

  355. Vlad Krandz July 5, 2012 at 12:44 pm #

    I identify with William Shatner in the Gremlin episode. No one will believe me and instead they think I’m crazy. But I must kill the Gremlin to save us all.

  356. Vlad Krandz July 5, 2012 at 12:52 pm #

    They do not capitalize boson because it is not a proper noun. Proton is not capitalized either or iether. Also there are many types of bosons. It would not be incorrect to capitalize boson as in Higgs Boson since it is then is a proper noun of a kind.
    No possesive since no man can own a boson as opposed to say, a diamond.

  357. Rhino July 5, 2012 at 1:01 pm #

    Peter Higgs is the scientist that predicted the existence of such a particle. It’s a Higgs boson the same way that a boson can also be a W or Z boson. Or a red boson or a green boson assuming they have colors.

  358. Vlad Krandz July 5, 2012 at 1:51 pm #

    Imagine if you had used blackstrap molasses as Paul Brag taught – you’d be able to hear what was being said in the White House.

  359. San Jose Mom 51 July 5, 2012 at 2:01 pm #

    War is God’s way of teaching Americans geography.

  360. dale July 5, 2012 at 2:18 pm #

    Ramana as usual said it best: to the extent you are not experiencing non duality you MUSt worhip. So are you in non duality all the time “Dale”?
    Ramana doesn’t surf, and he sure as hell isn’t a Buddhist.

  361. dale July 5, 2012 at 2:19 pm #

    I identify with William Shatner in the Gremlin episode. No one will believe me and instead they think I’m crazy. But I must kill the Gremlin to save us all.
    Other people DO see the gremlins Vlad, they’re just on medication.

  362. messianicdruid July 5, 2012 at 2:20 pm #

    For a good read {and heed} of the LIBOR {lie-more} situation:

  363. Kyooshtik July 5, 2012 at 2:41 pm #

    It’s a Higgs boson the same way that a boson can also be a W or Z boson.
    So what you are saying then is that Higgs is an adjective.

  364. Rhino July 5, 2012 at 2:48 pm #


  365. Kyooshtik July 5, 2012 at 2:56 pm #

    No possesive since no man can own a boson as opposed to say, a diamond.
    What about Einstein’s Theory of Relativity?
    They do not capitalize boson because it is not a proper noun.
    I am almost sorry I brought this up. If you google “proper noun” and read the first entry (from Wikipedia) you learn that “rules” concerning proper nouns are very complex and not totally carved in stone.

  366. messianicdruid July 5, 2012 at 4:39 pm #

    The Socialization Of America Is Economically Impossible
    “I understand the dream of the common socialist. I was, after all, once a Democrat. I understand the disparity created in our society by corporatism (not capitalism, though some foolish socialists see them as exactly the same). I understand the drive and the desire to help other human beings, especially those in dire need, and the tendency to see government as the ultimate solution to all our problems. That said, let’s be honest; government is in the end just a tool used by one group or another to implement a particular methodology or set of principles. Unfortunately, what most socialists today don’t seem to understand is that no matter what strategies they devise, they will NEVER have control. And, those they wish to help will be led to suffer, because the establishment does not care about them, or you. The establishment does not think of what it can give, it thinks about what it can take. Socialism, in the minds of the elites, is a con-game which allows them to quarry the favor of the serfs, and nothing more.
    There are other powers at work in this world; powers that have the ability to play both sides of the political spectrum. The money elite have been wielding the false left/right paradigm for centuries, and to great effect. Whether socialism or corporatism prevails, they are the final victors, and the game continues onward…
    Knowing this fact, I find that my reactions to the entire Obamacare debate rather muddled. Really, I see the whole event as a kind of circus, a mirage, a distraction. Perhaps it is because I am first and foremost an economic analyst, and when looking at Obamacare and socialization in general, I see no tangibility. I see no threat beyond what we as Americans already face. Let me explain…”

  367. Tark July 5, 2012 at 5:13 pm #

    “If it hadn’t been for the Civil Rights Movement, it would be much worse, as no modern corporation would think of having its production facilities in the Jim Crow south.”
    Modern Corps. would get down and kiss the ass, or anything else, of a redneck or the worst Klansman alive if it made them enough money. But, they knew they could make more cash by pretending to care as much as the professional grievance crusade cared about segregation.
    Besides, the South was doing fine economically during that era. They weren’t wealthy by any means but they also also weren’t a drain. Birmingham alone contributed untold tons of iron ore, steel, coal, plus employment; it rivaled Pittsburgh in production. Atlanta was also at the forefront of the ‘noble’ cause and had a very large major corp. in Coca-Cola, even before they bent over. I bet they regret doing that now.
    None of this fits your version of contributing to society because the South at one time actually made and produced real things and could stand on their own at that time; if they hadn’t had a enormous burden of blacks that suck welfare only because they were born black, they would never have been made a scapegoat twice in only one centuries worth of time. Having the living shit beaten out of you in total warfare also doesn’t help anybody to accrue wealth. Imagine, ordinary farmers, and small businesses, who may have never owned a slave in their lives victimized because they lived in the wrong place, wrong time.
    Trust me, the South can grow most of it’s own food, usually has better natural resources than the other regions of the country, that don’t contain much more than hot-air, useless talking heads, and Ivory Tower queers, not to mention empty-headed kneejerk humps. California is the only state in ‘Pacifica’ that could feed it’s own population with what it grows right there. But, due to all the progressive policies of the brilliant people that lead and live there; Cali. is flat broke and will be one of the first, or few, whole states to become really just a third-world bastion. It also wasn’t long ago that NY was an enormous drain and burden on the federal government, until Ford, I think, told them to eat take their own debt and eat it.
    So, what it comes down to is that the policies and self-righteousness of people just like you have had a negative impact on the South. Despite being the only territory in the U.S. ever to have been occupied, we have managed to grow and hold our own in a often hostile environment. You are only in the way. We don’t need you, but we should be the ones to claim this nation because OUR core values follow the real spirit of the founding of this nation. No reason to secede and recede into the background.

  368. ozone July 5, 2012 at 5:35 pm #

    “California is the only state in ‘Pacifica’ that could feed it’s own population with what it grows right there.” -T of Ark
    Uh, without WATER pumped in from ELSEWHWERE feeding Kali-for-nia’s teeming swarm would be a S.O.L. proposition. (You might want to take a tip as Da Proud and Noble Sout’ gets hotter and drier. So should we all.)
    As to the rest of your screed… comments are currently unavailable.

  369. ozone July 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm #

    …What’s an ‘elsewhwere’ anyhow?? I’ve developed a typing stutter!

  370. dale July 5, 2012 at 5:55 pm #

    Yeah….you appear to be a pretty typical specimen.

  371. ozone July 5, 2012 at 6:00 pm #

    One small thing:
    Go ahead; “you all” claim the nation. I can hardly wait to see how that turns out. Sure don’t see why there would be any resistance to it. (I know Gott mit Uns is already engraved on your beltbuckles, so it should be a piece of cake, right?)

  372. Tark July 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm #

    “As to the rest of your screed… comments are currently unavailable.”
    Please keep it that way.
    Don’t venture too far outside of your little enclave: virtually, physically, emotionally. There’s only strength in great numbers-huddled together-with people like you and Dale.
    Hell, if either of you have a serious way to get the attention of someone who can actually help with a secession movement on the west coast,in Vermont, etc, I’ll sign a petition, make phone calls, do plenty to help the cause.
    The only thing that’s too bad is that Vermont is a beautiful place and so are the Redwoods in California. Most of the residents don’t deserve them.

  373. Tark July 5, 2012 at 6:06 pm #

    As much as you appear to be the typical cunt that marries a doctor-daddy and then pretends to have a career.

  374. Kyooshtik July 5, 2012 at 6:41 pm #

    which allows them to quarry the favor
    But, as to your main thrust, I mostly agree.
    Where the writer you quoted sees deliberate conspiracy to fleece the non-elite I see their motivations as honorable but incredibly naive.

  375. Buck Stud July 5, 2012 at 6:59 pm #

    This is interesting:
    And the first comment is also interesting:
    “I have a nagging feeling that 5-10 years after it’s completion and the tenants moving in, it will be stripped of most, if not all built-in vegetation.
    Trees grow up AND out. Trees in a city require maintenance.
    Forgetting the leaves for the moment, trimming the branches of these trees is gonna be a bitch for the branches growing on the inside of the structure, and nearly impossible for those on the outside.
    Baring chainsaw-equipped gardeners rappelling down the walls.
    And it would still mean that branches would be falling down into the street. What is Italian for “TIMBER!”?”

  376. Buck Stud July 5, 2012 at 7:03 pm #

    Maybe F Scott Fitzgerald had it right:
    ” Begin with an individual, and before you know it you find that you have created a type; begin with a type, and you find that you have created — nothing.”

  377. progress4spam July 5, 2012 at 7:31 pm #

    “Yeah….you appear to be a pretty typical specimen.”
    -dale, labeling and stereotyping tark-
    Wow, Dale.
    This little comment to Tark sets records for unenlightenment!
    Something about your love of South-bashing is making you forget all of your Buddhist learnin’.
    Buck and F. Scott are right. You are trying to fit and individual (tark, me, whomever) to type.
    You are also desperately fitting a whole REGION to type.
    Most disappointing.

  378. Jam47 July 5, 2012 at 7:45 pm #

    Your comment about cilantro is both misleading and dangerous. Cilantro is indeed a chelator. But the only metal it is able to chelate is mercury. Now, nowhere in Kunstler’s post is there any mention of mercury. Kunstler plainly says that if he is in fact a victim of metal poisoning, the metals responsible are cobalt and/or chromium. Cilantro is not going to help him.
    Moreover, if he were to take your carelessly given advice and dose himself with cilantro, not only would he leave his body-burden of cobalt/chromium undiminished, he might well end up scything away neuron nuclei and synaptic connections by the billion. This is a fancy way of saying that cilantro (under the right conditions) is highly adept at brain cell destruction.
    What are the right conditions? The rightest one of all is to have mercury amalgams in your mouth. How do I know Kunstler has such? I don’t. But you don’t know that he doesn’t.
    Misleading and dangerous.

  379. xport July 5, 2012 at 7:47 pm #

    Hi Gang,
    Yesterday was even better than Cinco de Mayo around here. It was an all out celebration of the great spirit of the Revolution that separated America from those tyrant British capitalists. Or was it?
    Seem like mixing nationalist pride, alcohol, hotdogs, hamburgers and parades, then some gunpowder aerial explosions will solve all the problems.
    And this was the 4th day of an epic heat wave to sweep the nation, with another 3 or 4 even more brutally hot and humid days to come, and then what happens: there is a meteorological collision with a cold front that causes massive discharges of precipitation and static electricity in the form of lightning, and powerful damaging winds.
    But at least we got to eat some crap and hear about stars and stripes and bombs bursting in air and how we will kick the crap out of anyone who stands in our way. Hurray! Let’s go home and eat and drink some more.
    What bullshit. Same with the medical system and the new health care bill. On a recent visit to the doctor, now you need to fill out new forms, describing the same old forms that you already filled out a hundred times, and sign and initial each one. Be careful what you say, everything will be held against you by the insurance company.
    Then the doc sees you after an hour wait, and he shows up with his laptop computer, which is directly linked into an insurance company database, and proceeds to diagnose via a menu, and prescribe meds from the approved list. This is not bullshit, we both laughed about it.
    I fell much better now.
    Thanks for the inspiration, and note a very good review of Jim’s new book on the Archdruids blog.
    I have a copy on order and look forward to a good session with a great book.

  380. Pucker July 5, 2012 at 7:55 pm #

    Can someone use Food Stamps to buy a giant bucket of greasy fried chicken and a sugary 42 oz. jug of soda pop and eat it on the sofa in front of the TV with curlers in their hair watching “Desperate Housewives” while the baby is crying with a wet diaper? Thanks.

  381. Pucker July 5, 2012 at 8:06 pm #

    Many years ago at a supermarket in poor black neighborhood in St. Louis, I saw an obese couple buy a 20 pound plastic bag full of pork ribs and a gallon jug of BBQ sauce (nothing else) with Food Stamps on the 4th of July.

  382. Pucker July 5, 2012 at 8:08 pm #

    In that same black neighborhood in St. Louis, I once saw a black kid try to bite into an orange like it was an apple. He didn’t seem to know that one has to peel an orange.

  383. xport July 5, 2012 at 8:24 pm #

    Since I am still logged on I will reply to this.
    When I was first married I had a child, and my wife stayed at home to raise him. I worked hard, we had no health insurance to pay for the ob/gyn and maternity care in the hospital stay. The system had some mercy on us and we were allowed to make payments over a few years to pay off our costs of birthing a child without insurance. It was tough back then, the first oil embargo and recession was actually tougher than these times.
    I remember standing in a supermarket line to buy baby formula, having scraped together our last $5.00
    (formula was cheaper back then). The person in front of me at the check out had a massive order that included junk food of every kind. I noticed that they were using food stamps, and felt betrayed by the system, and was very pissed off about that. It would have been nice to bring home a treat, a bag of chips and some ice cream to my long suffering and hard working stay at home wife. But I did not hate the person, just the system, which is not so just.

  384. Pucker July 5, 2012 at 8:39 pm #

    I know this young guy (handsome to women) who just received his LSAT scores. He did very, very well on the LSAT law school exam. But he is conflicted. He says that he’s got a huge penis and has received a very lucrative offer to perform in some exotic movies in Los Angeles. He says that his career goal is to go to law school, and then go into politics and run for political office. But he doesn’t want to give up the chance to make some big, quick money in the exotic movie business. Any advice for this young man? Thanks.

  385. anti soak July 5, 2012 at 8:39 pm #

    Some years back I was leaving my art studio near the industrial part of town.
    I was hemmed in by cars, a wall and a lil homeless guy with a spanish accent. I assume he was drunk or crazy or both.
    He went on and on with one statement:
    I was his captive audience.
    Far as Trees in the City goes, this city may have to spend millions to replace the Ficus trees, that above ground and below have gone crazy.
    As a neighbor said ‘you cant kill a Ficus’.

  386. Pucker July 5, 2012 at 8:47 pm #

    The Black political leadership in the U.S. is corrupt. The so-called “progressive” whites don’t seem to understand that when they support corrupt black politicians that they’re hurting blacks.

  387. anti soak July 5, 2012 at 8:50 pm #

    See threads at Modelmayhem.com about ‘porn scams’ and especially ‘vivid video scams’ etc.
    Theyll promise females anything to get em onto the turnip truck and to el-lay.
    The contracts are said to be full of ‘if you are 5 minutes late’ etc.
    That he, as a guy [with smarts?] thinks hes gonna make big bux in porn is a hoot. A fu## hoot.
    However who knows, anything is possible.
    I know a few young folks that went the adult route, most regret it,as, ‘a porno is forever’.

  388. anti soak July 5, 2012 at 8:53 pm #

    Yes, its true.
    Back in the 1950s what did a baby’s delivery cost? 100$?
    A friend who ‘studies scams’ says now there’s an EBT card for non food, non emergency items. I dunno.

  389. anti soak July 5, 2012 at 8:54 pm #

    Obamas for open borders.
    What could hurt Blacks more than that?

  390. Pucker July 5, 2012 at 9:02 pm #

    [New movie called “Castaway II”.
    Act I, Scene One: Brother and sister are lost on an island in the South Pacific. It’s been over a year since their plane crashed into the sea. The girl is pregnant.]

  391. ozone July 5, 2012 at 9:19 pm #

    “Hell, if either of you have a serious way to get the attention of someone who can actually help with a secession movement on the west coast,in Vermont, etc, I’ll sign a petition, make phone calls, do plenty to help the cause.” -Tark
    That’s how you think “serious” people go about such things?
    How such changes come about is not discussed on BLOGS, or in front of cheaply-bought operatives! Jeeeeeezis! I’m not sure you’re a “serious” person.

  392. Mike Hunt July 5, 2012 at 9:23 pm #

    There are EBT food cards and EBT cash cards. The cash cards are for people on welfare. No more checks; it’s all done electronically now.

  393. ozone July 5, 2012 at 9:33 pm #

    Thanks Mike!
    Now what about that [supposed] gum’mint health thingie, written by the insurance companies? Do we need to get a bar-code tattoo or just an implanted chip to get with the program? Will “nonpersons” be allowed participation?
    (Dr. P., jump in here at any appropriate [or otherwise] moment.)

  394. Pucker July 5, 2012 at 9:44 pm #

    “Will “nonpersons” be allowed participation?”
    [Scene from the new movie “Castaway III”.
    Three young persons are lost on an island in the South Pacific. Two “natural persons” who are brother and sister, and a non-natural person, a BVI corporation whose shareholder is anonymous. It’s been over a year since their plane went down. The girl has been knocked up by the BVI corporation.]

  395. Mike Hunt July 5, 2012 at 9:49 pm #

    I’m intending to stay as far away as I can from Obamacare. Haven’t seen a doctor in over 30 years anyway…

  396. ozone July 5, 2012 at 9:51 pm #

    Thank you, Dr. P!
    Now we gots somethin’ sale-able. A Kunstlerian premise with a Clusterfuckian twist; I see dolllllar signs bay-beeeee; big ones! And who cares about your health when you got the dough-re-mi?

  397. dale July 5, 2012 at 10:03 pm #

    You are trying to fit and individual (tark, me, whomever) to type.
    He typed himself, I just pointed it out.

  398. progress4spam July 5, 2012 at 10:04 pm #

    Hey SNAFU –
    Yeah, as regards stopping my blogging habit –
    Somebody posted something last week about “blogging bots?” and how they will soon track issues and develop their own personalities – and CFN may already have a couple of those things in training. So the whole thing begins to seem pointless.
    In two years, I have learned a lot from CFN. A lot of what I have learned has not been good – not for my original worldview, and not for the survival of the US, and perhaps of humanity. And I am still shaken by Beantown Bill’s unretracted “to the death” defense of the violent threats of an admitted racist – because they claim to share a Religion, even though both are “atheists.”
    But I digress. Atheism is on my mind because I read your atheism link. That link doesn’t plow a whole lot of new unplowed ground for me or you, IMO, SNAFU. I have no quarrel with “atheists,” whatsoever. I have a quarrel with “Atheists,” and I have explained the difference in those two “a” vs “A” terms many times.
    Ozone is an “atheist.” I think he and I would get along just fine, if the need arose.
    You and Turkle are “Atheists.” I think (know?) you two really want to convert me to your version of proselytizing Atheism. This might make getting along problematic, were we to need to have dealings in the real world.
    As regards your link written in the glorious praise of “South-Bashing,” – – –
    I’m out of time right now.

  399. rocco July 5, 2012 at 10:49 pm #

    James, sorry to hear about your hip. The reporting system on implanted devices is not real organized, and everytime a serious doctor or hospital tries the lobby arm of the device maker and medical insurance go at it. For profit medicine not does work. BUT be careful of quick cures from the right and left wing. Quackwatch.com does help you guide through the claims and it is an independent group that is attacked by corporate, left, and right wing groups trying to score a quick buck on medical issues. Also walking up to ten miles a day to get ready for our decompression of our society and noticed that the cheap made in china sneakers from discount box stores do not hold up, nit even socks. Be prepared think of your feet care in the future.

  400. San Jose Mom 51 July 5, 2012 at 10:50 pm #

    My mom saved the bill when I was born in 1958. The hospital bill totalled $105., which included her staying five days.
    I just received my “Too Much Magic” book from Amazon!

  401. progress4spam July 5, 2012 at 11:13 pm #

    Some of you will like this:
    “Mother Nature is real. Consciousness is real. Seeds are real. But much of what humanity has so far created is paper-thin and temporary. It can all cease to exist in the blink of a cosmic eye. There is nothing humanity has yet done that contributes anything notable to the universe. We are but specks of irrelevant dust against a backdrop of a beautifully woven tapestry of life, energy and consciousness. If the universe is keeping score of lasting achievement, human civilization has still not risen above zero.”

  402. Vlad Krandz July 5, 2012 at 11:31 pm #

    Einstein cam up with that theory. No one came up with a boson per se. I know the complexity, but I didn’t know if you did.
    And then there is British English – which is what foreigners want to learn. Different again in spelling and custom.
    Obama hates dictionaries. To him, they are unreal. Reality to him is being able to have words mean whatever you want them to mean.

  403. Vlad Krandz July 5, 2012 at 11:32 pm #

    The Bible says that without the Mark of the Beast you will not be allowed to buy or sell.

  404. Tark July 5, 2012 at 11:59 pm #

    Oh how I just do not care any longer if I live down to a stereotype or up to one. I’ll say what I think and in the way I feel it. If you want to me to accept the redneck characterization, I’ll gladly do so.
    I do have a degree of Redneck in my personality. I can accept it and even like it these days.

  405. Pucker July 6, 2012 at 12:38 am #

    On one of those job websites, I posted an ad seeking someone to do a commercial website. Some bloke in India replied that he’d do it for US$100. Can you believe it?!
    He must be living on the street or something?
    Man those Indians sure are cheap! Much cheaper than the Chinese!
    A bloke could have his website done in India and still have enough money left over for 5 or 6 blow jobs!

  406. anti soak July 6, 2012 at 1:15 am #

    Y’r ‘news’ is 8? years old.

  407. anti soak July 6, 2012 at 1:16 am #

    Is it Morgan Stanley or Goldman that makes 1/2 billion a year on?
    Or is it more $ than that?

  408. anti soak July 6, 2012 at 1:18 am #

    20$ a day in a Hospital! Free delivery..
    yet peeps say there were no ‘GOOD OLD DAYS’.

  409. Ixnei July 6, 2012 at 1:57 am #

    FB June 30th, 2012:
    “It’s quite insulting actually, when that ‘man’ has no need or desire for the “symptom
    treatment” methods of the knife/needle butchers and their toxic witches brew concoctions, and
    also when that ‘man’ can afford to pay his way if ever an emergency warranted…
    I always laugh when they talk about the taxpayer (corporate) costs associated with
    non-insured folks getting “free” care from emergency rooms – that is total and utter fallacy.
    Those folks are ALWAYS billed, often at 3-5x the going rate, and then the collection agency
    hounds are sent after them for non-payment. Sure, the street people/homeless are never going
    to pay – but a mandate sure ain’t gunna fix that!!!”
    TAX or PENALTY? Haha, wake the F* up, you worthless mouth spammers. Keep us busy, MSM – you
    show how fucking stupid you all are, with your continuous inane arguments (it’s a *tax* AND a *penalty*).
    LOL @ soaker and his 24 hour *DIATRIBE* (because he is still *POASTING* under all his various
    Poor Zoner, *LOOZIN’ IT~!* 2 years ’til solar *MAX*!!!
    Next week, 100’F *C2C*!!! Hahaha, 110/120/130’F in a *LOT* of “places”… Hope that *AC*
    still “werkz.” WTF are they calling those *HORIZONTAL/VERTICAL TORNADOES*, “again”?!?
    Oh yeah, I *membaz* – “Straight down the ‘drain’…”

  410. Ixnei July 6, 2012 at 1:58 am #

    Thx format *ASSFUKZ*

  411. Ixnei July 6, 2012 at 2:12 am #

    Left out *atmospheric thinning* – Ooops!!!

  412. Eleuthero July 6, 2012 at 4:19 am #

    Indentured servitude is correct. Lull people to sleep about their health care which gives a subtle incentive to engage in very unhealthful living habits and then, just when people are at their weakest financially and physically, yank the rug out from under them.
    I think the end result of Obamacare will be similar to what you now see with people with very weak (cheap) health plans i.e., 90% of the total pool of doctors (maybe 100% in some locales) will refuse to treat people with the plan. The mere possession of insurance does not mean all doctors, clinics, and hospitals accept that insurer.
    Ironically, health care in the USA was MUCH better when we didn’t have any insurance at all. Doctors made HOUSE CALLS for God’s sake!!! Prices were at MARKET levels. People who got catastrophic illnesses (e.g. cancer) gave surgery or radiation one shot and if it failed they checked out. Now, the medical establishment preys on people who want to give it FOUR tries and use up 2 or 3 million bucks to live maybe an extra six months in a devastated condition.
    The healthcare system now might be characterized as fake sympathy and fake humanity.

  413. ghyhljsr July 6, 2012 at 5:21 am #


  414. ozone July 6, 2012 at 7:46 am #

    That’s a nice sharp pin to the balloon of human hubris. Good perspective for me to keep in mind, thanks.
    I see evidence of this every day as nature inexorably reclaims its’ territory that I thought I had wrested from it. It really doesn’t take long either!

  415. ozone July 6, 2012 at 7:48 am #

    Ps. But you knew that already; living with the woods as we do.

  416. ozone July 6, 2012 at 7:55 am #

    Overheard something to this effect (insurance “acceptability”) that I wasn’t supposed to hear from two doctors conferring together. It’s such a fight for them to get paid at all from some insurers that they’d rather not have patients with certain “coverage”. Pretty well clusterfucked and probably why health providers are known as health deniers.

  417. ozone July 6, 2012 at 8:06 am #

    “Poor Zoner, *LOOZIN’ IT~!* 2 years ’til solar *MAX*!!!” -Ix
    What? What? Wha’di’say?
    Oh yeah… well if The Nature in all its’ uncaring majesty should swat me like a gnat, ain’t much I can do about it! ;o)
    Can’t lose it too much about that, so I’m looking toward this coming winter with great “interest”. (I’m much more trepedatious about persons than anything else.)

  418. ozone July 6, 2012 at 9:40 am #

    Chris Hedges speaks of betrayal and resistance. Does this also point to the Wizard-of-Oz-like healthcare promise? Why sure it does.
    As Being There points out time and time again, it’s all about wealth and power/control concentrated in the hands of the very few. One way or another, there’s going to be a reckoning for the world-shattering path we’ve so easily been led down.
    This jaunty little number could be prophetic:

  419. insufferable July 6, 2012 at 9:55 am #

    As we age and have to deal with THE SYSTEM through our elderly parents or our own health, one comes to realize that the mess we have here is self created. It started with insurance companies. In the early 60’s the doctors came to our homes for $25 and was able to see the entire family at one time. There was NO insurance. No I am not living in the twilight zone. I lived in Brooklyn NY at that time when I was a child. However, with the advent of insurance (the first I remember is Car Insurance), then health insurance chimed in. Sure, they saw BIG MONEY milking the BABY BOOMERS. Great ride. Its still going on. We were too young to do know how this would turn out. But since Greed and selfishness has now taken over, we are all doomed. the answer: STAY HEALTHY AS LONG AS POSSIBLE AND THEN JUST DROP DEAD. Only go into a hospital to fix somethng you KNOW about ie. broken bone, diseased organ etc. Tests will kill you if they can’t find the answer quickly. The Government and medical establishment is getting ready for the death of this baby boom geneation with great anticipation of mega bucks being made at our expense of course. After we are all dead, most probably the small generations taking over will change things back to normal. But we are going to be F##KED right up to our mortal ends.

  420. Rhino July 6, 2012 at 11:45 am #

    That big pecker he’s got is probably inside his skull fucking his brain. That is if he’s seriously considering this movie offer. For the rest of his life he’s going to be like Don Draper in MadMen trying to run away from his little secret.

  421. Rhino July 6, 2012 at 11:58 am #

    What could hurt blacks more than that? Offshoring jobs by the millions at the same time.

  422. Vlad Krandz July 6, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

    Hear about the guy who loved chimps and was almost killed by them two weeks ago? People used to think that the Great Apes were murderous brutes. Then Jane Goodall told us they were gentle giants, noble and full of love. Now we have come full circle and even Jane knows that the earlier point of view was closer to the Truth.
    Likewise with the Blacks. We used to think they were primitive brutes, incapable of being civilized for the most part. Then we went crazy and glorified them – giving them the love and status that should have been kept for ourselves. Now we’re begining to come full circle and see that the older point of view was much closer to the Truth. Sure there a few Blacks who can think and achieve. But rather than being just another yuppie, they should stay in their own Communities, States, Nations, and Continent – and be the Leaders there.

  423. Vlad Krandz July 6, 2012 at 1:13 pm #

    The average person (like Dale) is a mixture of love and hate. So when they stop hating the outsider and loving their own, where does the hatred go? It goes towards their own people – or as with Dale and Ozone – towards those “other” Whites, those bad ones.
    Xenophillia is a disease. Xenophobia is normal if not exteme – and it tends only to become extreme when people are threatened by outsiders. If there are no Blacks aroud, people wont hate Blacks. If there are no Gypsies, no hatred of Gypsies, etc.
    Studies show the least racist Whites in America are those in the Whitest states. They are told by the TV how great Blacks are and they Believe. It’s only when they experience Blacks do they begin to hate them. So in this case, prejudice is positive and is destroyed by negative experience -the opposite of what the lying media teaches.

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  425. Mike Hunt July 6, 2012 at 1:42 pm #

    Born in 1958, myself as well – here’s to the Year of the Dog, Jen!
    Your fellow dog, Mike.

  426. driften July 6, 2012 at 3:09 pm #

    I just had to prove to my HR department that I’m a US citizen, on a form from the Dept of Homeland Security. WTF? I wonder how many terrorists they catch with this sweep. I feel so much safer now…
    Oh yeah, I love the moron who comments pretending to know the mind of “the OWS movement”. Assclown.

  427. driften July 6, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

    Money is the mark of the beast, and I know you have it on yourself right this minute, hellbound one.

  428. Vlad Krandz July 6, 2012 at 4:51 pm #

    They came back for watermemlon later. You mist it.

  429. anti soak July 6, 2012 at 5:08 pm #

    offtopic Bub….
    didya read about non talent Chris Rocks ‘White Peoples Day’ tweet?
    I watched the Oscars once, at a friends, once was enough. Chris was the MC, the singer was Josh Groban, once was enough!

  430. anti soak July 6, 2012 at 5:12 pm #

    ‘prejudice is positive and is destroyed by negative experience’.
    You meant wariness/ P word / dislike of ‘other’ is INCREASED by negative experiences with ‘out group’, not decreased.
    There is a reason stereotypes exist, why is that?

  431. dale July 6, 2012 at 5:52 pm #

    If there are no Blacks aroud, people wont hate Blacks. If there are no Gypsies, no hatred of Gypsies, etc.
    Vlad, I think studies actually show that, the more you hate the more it grows. It’s not surprising that many people tend to feel more comfortable with people more like them. (based on any number of factors). But….the more you hate….the more you hate.

  432. dale July 6, 2012 at 5:57 pm #

    By “any number of factors” I mean things like, education, background, sense of humor, political ideals etc. Any one of those is more important to me than race in breeding familiarity. We had an East Indian man and wife over for the 4th, I felt much more in common with him than I do with most so-called “whites”. He had a great sense of humor, and could talk about something more than his possessions.

  433. San Jose Mom 51 July 6, 2012 at 6:25 pm #

    I don’t know what’s in the air today, but I’m about to blow a fuse. I went to the gym and gave my heart and real workout thinking that would cure my problem, but it didn’t help at all.
    My son attended orientation at San Jose State University. (Last year he went to school in Boulder, Colorado, ugh.) He’s all excited and he listening to all the advice to succeed–plus, he is paying for half of his tuition. They tell the incoming students, “Don’t think that getting a degree means that you’ll able to get a job.”
    I really feel that the situation is going to get worse at a quicker pace.
    PS Christine Lagard announced that the gloom will get gloomier. Whenever I see her face, I want to lecture her on the benefits of sunscreen and wearing hats outside.

  434. Vlad Krandz July 6, 2012 at 7:23 pm #

    No, pre-judice or pre-judgement or judgement before experience can be either positive or negatve. Blacks are lauded by the media to the skies. Because of this, every year European tourists traipse right into the ghetto like lambs to the slaughter. The lucky ones merely get mocked or robbed.
    Whites from all White states are often prejudced in favor of Blacks also – since they lack all real experience with them.

  435. Vlad Krandz July 6, 2012 at 7:28 pm #

    Have you told him? Are you paying for this? If so, stop. Give him some garden tools and tell him to dig for his dinner.
    One Theravadan Master remarked that a man deprived of everything but a loin cloth and an axe could still make his way in the world back to prosperity.

  436. Vlad Krandz July 6, 2012 at 7:33 pm #

    Yes, yuppie bureacrats like you feel more for their opposite numbers in other countries than you do for your own People. You are a Traitor.
    And btw, show me anywhere in the Dharma where such abberant attitudes are endorsed.
    And furthermore, are you by any chance assuming that the Indian was in the same “head space” as you? You do, don’t you? What’s your proof? That he was smiling? Dale he may have liked you, he might even be willing to be your friend, but he’s not going to betray his people for you just because you are. He’s normal.

  437. Vlad Krandz July 6, 2012 at 7:36 pm #

    You have alot of hatred. But as a Xenophiliac, you turn it towards your own People – and then you consider it a virtue! Everything you consider culture is tainted by this and also your every interaction with other people.

  438. Vlad Krandz July 6, 2012 at 7:44 pm #

    No I mist it. He can be funny and he is willing to make jokes about Blacks. But he is still a racist and attacked a journalist a few weeks ago.

  439. scarlet runner July 6, 2012 at 7:51 pm #

    De heat and sun makes de watermelon sweet this summer! Love dat watermelon. I be growing it, too.

  440. Vlad Krandz July 6, 2012 at 7:52 pm #

    Money is the mark of the beast? And I have it on me? Like in my wallet you mean?
    Stick to the comic books, kid. The Scriptures are out of your league.

  441. San Jose Mom 51 July 6, 2012 at 7:54 pm #

    He has a couple of jobs already. When he delivers pizza he can make around $16/hour, minus the cost of the gas he buys. He also works for Subway, waving a sign for two hours every day.
    I feel it’s important to get an education even if it doesn’t lead to a job. But God knows I’ve spent my life making sure my kids are exposed to the arts and nature.

  442. Vlad Krandz July 6, 2012 at 7:55 pm #

    Yowza! But don’t eat it with anything else. Eat it alone or leave it alone, nigga.
    All Whites have a desire to make fun of Blacks. We must bring back the blackface of the minstrel show and vaudeville. It’s only fair: Blacks make fun or us constantly. And if they want to do Whiteface, bring it on.

  443. anti soak July 6, 2012 at 8:40 pm #

    Has anything changed?
    I got a degree in 1978, in a science, from a University.In the 70s its seemed ‘everyone’ wanted to be an MD, as a steady job and lotsa $.
    The 00s-10s are the 60s-70s. History repeating, BUT MUCH WORSE.
    What is yr son studying? And why?
    Do you know his IQ? SATs?
    What was UC/Boulder like?

  444. anti soak July 6, 2012 at 9:56 pm #

    Maybe Yuri can hire him…
    I read once, long ago, in a Biz Mag, that Subway
    sandwich was the worst of 400 franchises they studied [for a franchisee]. The founder is a cheap billionaire who has/had an ordinary condo in Fla..
    Unlike Yuri:
    Nestled among 17 hilltop acres in Los Altos Hills, Calif., the French chateau-style mansion encompasses 25,545 square feet of living space including 14 bathrooms, two dining rooms, a ballroom, a library and staff quarters. Outrageous amenities include a home theater, a wine cellar, a gym, an indoor pool, and a sauna. There’s also a 4,600-square foot guest house and two three-car garages, even a private car wash. The chateau traded hands in “turn-key” condition, meaning move-in-ready. Rumor has it that Milner, whose primary residence is located in Moscow, hasn’t even occupied it yet………..
    gee after paying 100,000,000 for it!

  445. Iona Laundramat July 6, 2012 at 10:28 pm #

    What was wrong with school in Boulder, Colorado?
    Was he getting into drugs there?
    Asoka has been gone for a few days now, no doubt blissed out on no-mind meditation, or so he would have us all believe.
    What hath Iona wrought?

  446. Iona Laundramat July 6, 2012 at 10:38 pm #

    This is a great interview with Gerald Celente. Enjoy!

  447. Pucker July 6, 2012 at 10:45 pm #

    Why is it that when aliens from outerspace visit Earth that they never wear any clothes?
    Is Earth some kind of sex tourist destination for them?
    Maybe this would explain all those stories about people getting abducted and probed by aliens?

  448. messianicdruid July 6, 2012 at 10:52 pm #

    “One Theravadan Master remarked that a man deprived of everything but a loin cloth and an axe could still make his way in the world back to prosperity.”
    A druid could do it with just an axe-head.

  449. Pucker July 6, 2012 at 10:53 pm #

    [Act 1; Scene One: Two guys meet at a real estate agents conference in California. Both blokes discover that their wives are both named “Page”]
    One bloke says to the other: “I don’t think that we’re on the same Page.”

  450. San Jose Mom 51 July 7, 2012 at 12:08 am #

    Iona you’ve done this blog a favor! If Asoka could limit himself a bit and not post 20 times a day, he’d generate a lot more goodwill.
    As for the my son’s trials and tribulations in Boulder: The main reason it was a fiasco was because he has always had anxiety issues, and it was foolishness to send him 1,700 miles away.
    Yes, he self-medicated with pot, and got caught once–a slap on the wrist and a $100 fine. But that wasn’t the main issue. He was at Naropa University, which is adjacent to CU. He’d always been fascinated with Chogyam Trungpa and Naropa has a good psychology program that interested him. (Plus I had taken some excellent graduate level courses (online) and found the teaching to have a lot of depth.
    The main issue was that one of his roomates at the Naropa dorm (which was more like apartments–you had to cook your own food) ended up finding a heroin dealer–who ended up living in their apartment. My son would come home from classes and find his roomate barely breathing and refusing help–this made his anxiety levels rocket. Also, the living quarters had all the charm of a crack house, with blood residue and icky spots of heroin by the bathroom sink. Under stress, my son’s anxiety morphs into OCD, so you can imagine his fear of germs in that place. Also, the heroin dealer was eating all his food. Mind you, he could only buy a limited amount of food because his skateboard was the only means of transportation.
    Sadly, he started having full-blown panic attacks. So I flew to Boulder and moved him into a lovely, furnished, immaculate studio apartment in Boulder’s historical district. He kept up his grades, but his anxiety issues had spiraled out of control.
    Thus on my birthday last year, I ended up flying out to Colorado, renting a car and driving the 1,700 miles back to San Jose with him and all his stuff. He was able to file a medical withdrawal and we got a pro-rated part of his tuition back($13,000 a semester, yikes).
    Too much information, I know. But it hasn’t been an good year for me.

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  452. Vlad Krandz July 7, 2012 at 1:14 am #

    A great victory in Minnesota: the University has pulled out of the write on White People’s Faces campaign. Apparently some Alumni are objecting…
    The Enemy went to far and countless Whites have been awakened to the hatred against them. Another defeat for Tim Wise. Hopefully we can get this creep exposed for what he is.

  453. Vlad Krandz July 7, 2012 at 1:20 am #

    Get him some rational emotive therapy where they ask “What is the worst that can happen” and then accept it. Also the engineering aspect: teach him to work with the breath. Have him breathe into his heart and NOT into the solar plexus chakra which where fear is manifested. A bit of rapid breathing under His control could help in the midst of the crisis.
    All that being said, it sounds like he tried to do too much too soon. Someplace closer would be better.

  454. Eleuthero July 7, 2012 at 2:12 am #

    SJM said:
    Iona you’ve done this blog a favor! If Asoka could limit himself a bit and not post 20 times a day, he’d generate a lot more goodwill.
    Gee, I’ve only said this about ten times to the chagrin of the BeantownBills on the site and their sympathizers. Asoka feels that he has to weigh in on every opinion about everything, all day, every day. In the language of the very Buddhism he professes to know and love, he has the delusions of the ASURA REALM i.e., in some sense he feels that he is an “axis” that the CFN “universe” rotates around.
    Most of us herein have opinions about lots of things but most of us don’t have the hubris to believe that other people should have to wade through thousands of lines of our b.s. to get to the sage words of quieter, more circumspect, less bloviating souls.
    Sometimes, I actually AGREE with some of Asoka’s content like the idea that Jill Stein, warts and all, might be the only candidate that’s not just part of our fake two-party machine. However, every damned time I log in here, it seems as though I’m either scrolling past Asoka’s posts or the replies to his posts to find small morsels from wonderful folks like you or Being There.
    Thanks for chiming in, SJM, and thanks also to Iona for calling attention to this phenomenon which has gone a long way toward making this a dull place. Peace.

  455. Buck Stud July 7, 2012 at 2:17 am #

    I don’t know what’s in the air today, but I’m about to blow a fuse…They tell the incoming students, “Don’t think that getting a degree means that you’ll able to get a job.”

    I suppose there’s worse things besides telling kids the truth of the matter.

  456. Buck Stud July 7, 2012 at 2:28 am #

    Your son is lucky to have such a caring and devoted mother.

  457. anti soak July 7, 2012 at 2:44 am #

    Nonsense, it should have stayed!
    To serve as a warning to all of ‘the 1984’ ahead of us.
    As far as yr ‘War with Dale’ goes, I dont think Dale will or can identify with Euro Culture or whites, which is fine.
    Once in Utne Reader, someone wrote that they hated
    Ithaca [Cornell] where whites would
    ‘Walk past a crack house to go to a Tibet Benefit’!!

  458. anti soak July 7, 2012 at 2:46 am #

    Another reason for ‘Unfair’ staying is for the sake of ‘free speech’. Not that Billboards are ‘free’.

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    With accomplishments like these and results across the Administration to innovate advanced fuels, it’s no surprise that we’re importing less oil today. In fact, in 2011 America imported about 45 percent of our oil from foreign countries – down from about 60 percent in 2005.

  460. xhalor July 7, 2012 at 3:51 am #

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    It would appear that even in the realm of STEALIN’ Mofos, competition is reaching a dangerous, if not DEADLY new reality. Fact is, we’re runnin’ out of shit to steal. Me and The Crew need to step up. I can’t believe I have to think about this shit. Tequila!

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  462. BeingThere July 7, 2012 at 8:08 am #

    A year ago I discussed receiving a phone call from an Indian business who asked me for my extra work in retouching. Even if I have too much on my plate, I don’t give my work away and/or as I told him I know other American retouchers who would appreciate the work.
    Yes–they can do what I do cheaply and indeed, many of the places I work for send bulk images to have paths made–something I would have done happily as part of my job (takes time too).
    Last week I joined a retouching group blog and told this story and people are still weighing in on it. The discussion group looks more like this blog!!
    Many more retouchers in the US would be working busily if it weren’t for the penny pinchers who used to pay to do business.
    Employers used to respect that the outside contractor pays for their own health insurance, but now the premiums keep going up and our hourlies keep going down.
    As one retoucher said this used to be a great way to make a living….This is why every time a job in my field is posted hundreds respond. We’re all good, so weighing through the resumes is a nightmare!
    I’m happy to be working onsite somewhere for several weeks…. (that’s what we all say)

  463. BeingThere July 7, 2012 at 8:36 am #

    Might I add the usual issue here which is that free trade with no regulation puts the disadvantage on the former Industrialized nations whose infrastructure and standard of living is too high to compete with those nations who those monthly costs.
    Without barriers to entry we don’t stand a chance. But our CEO’s wouldn’t have this any other way. They even make money on the currency exchanges and the great tax breaks.
    Take a good look at TPP Trans-Pacific Partnership. You won’t believe this trade deal. Craig Paul Roberts has an excellent essay on it.

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  465. ozone July 7, 2012 at 9:00 am #

    Good idea! Swap that food for fuel in a time of drought; makes sense to me.
    Food or fuel? Hmmm, I’d rather drive than eat.
    (With ads from Chevron and Dow alongside, what’s not to trust? ;o)

  466. ozone July 7, 2012 at 9:18 am #

    2012 was going to be a record year for corn yield and meteorologists were predicting “normal” weather.
    Wishful thinking cannot turn desert to meadow, sorry.
    But we stashed plenty of food to tide us all over in case of such an occurrence like the LDS crowd has, right? [crickets] Ummm, right?
    Is this the beginning of the end of all we’ve known?
    Attention must be paid, but don’t worry, stocks are up….

  467. ozone July 7, 2012 at 9:25 am #

    Excellent article on TPP, and Dr. Roberts has slipped his chain in the July 4th hot-air-speechifying screed! Yikes, no punches pulled there.
    (Tell us how you REALLY feel, PCR.)

  468. ozone July 7, 2012 at 9:31 am #

    I do hope he appreciates you and finds an effective way to cope that doesn’t involve too much chemical intervention. (Sure, it can be a good transitional tool, but long term, I’m not too sure of its efficacy [or future availability, for that matter].)
    Best of luck.

  469. BeingThere July 7, 2012 at 10:11 am #

    Yup O.
    That was a great article but read the one underneath!

  470. ozone July 7, 2012 at 10:52 am #

    Done and done! :o)

  471. Widespreadpanic7 July 7, 2012 at 11:48 am #

    Chogyam Trungpa? Naropa Institute? SJ Mom, no disrespect intended, you sound like a lovely woman, but $13,000 per semester to study that Bullshit? I’d assert your boy might be better off at a local vocational community college learning how to weld pipe, turn a lathe or smith a muzzleloader. It would be a lot cheaper, and at least he’d know how to do something practical and useful when he got out of there.
    With the dual distractions this summer of the Olympics in London and the Presidential Campaigns here, don’t expect to hear much from the media about the issues we discuss on this site.


  472. Rhino July 7, 2012 at 12:20 pm #

    Yeah, gloom.
    Getting the European Central Bank to take on bank supervision won’t be an easy thing given that there are about 17 countries that have to agree on how this beast is going to be set up, which banks it supervises etc.
    They say that smaller banks will remain under the control of national regulators. So what do they mean by “smaller” given that it was “smaller” financial institutions that caused so much trouble in Spain.
    And how effective are these national regulators given that in the mix are monumentally corrupt countries like Italy where black is white, white is black, nothing is on the level, where the mafia and their mainland counterparts infest and subvert everything.
    And how happy will the people in these 17 countries be to hand off authority to far off Frankfurt? It may not be far off in geographic terms but in cultural terms it may as well be on the other side of the moon to the folks in Seville and Palermo.
    This will be a huge task that realistically will take years rather than months or weeks to accomplish. And they don’t have years to mess around. They have their asses in frying pans right now.

  473. Rhino July 7, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    Somehow the French seem to have a respectable average lifespans given that they smoke like chimneys, drink like fish, eat huge amounts of fatty foods. At least the ones that I know. Probably the alcohol acts as a preservative/disinfectant. Maybe we should all drink more wine.

  474. Rhino July 7, 2012 at 12:32 pm #

    correction : “lifespans” should be “lifespan”

  475. anti soak July 7, 2012 at 12:36 pm #

    Marlin, when I spoke to a Trungpa devotee about Ts misdeeds, it was brushed off as ‘Muck-racking’.
    26,000$ a year for ‘school’ + living expenses.
    You could buy a farmette or raw land for that much $.
    If he wants to study Buddhism, send him to Asia.
    trungpas ‘deeds’ are all over the internet.

  476. anti soak July 7, 2012 at 12:40 pm #

    This is from the link:
    ‘If anything, the TPP reduces the scope of global government by exempting corporations from government control.’
    HUH???? Corporations = Global Government.

  477. Widespreadpanic7 July 7, 2012 at 1:48 pm #

    ASoak, what is it about West Coasters, sucked in to those bullshit Eastern Religion cults all the time? Can’t they spot a scam when they see one?

  478. San Jose Mom 51 July 7, 2012 at 2:09 pm #

    My son’s spiritual aspirations have been put on the back burner. He said to me that Naropa teaches undergrads NOT to care about money. Now that he has worked at minimum wage+tips since November, he knows that if he buys a $60 ticket to a concert that equals almost 8 hours of work. Good lesson.
    He’s thinking of majoring in biology at SJSU–he always enjoyed his HS science classes.

  479. Widespreadpanic7 July 7, 2012 at 2:34 pm #

    Anti Soak, Poet Gary Snyder actually lived with the Japs in the 50’s to become a Buddhist. Snyder was the real deal.
    God Speed to your son, SJMom.
    All those Hindu and Buddhist cult f—ers tell you dont care about money; at the same time they’re shaking down the clueless and gullible for every dime they can get.

  480. dale July 7, 2012 at 3:39 pm #

    Yes, yuppie bureacrats like you feel more for their opposite numbers in other countries than you do for your own People.
    Thanks anyway Vlad, think I’ll determine for myself who my “own people” are.

  481. dale July 7, 2012 at 3:43 pm #

    And btw, show me anywhere in the Dharma where such abberant attitudes are endorsed.
    ideally, the concept of bodhichitta, is to feel compassion, and loving kindness for all, with equanimity. By that definition, I guess yours would be the “aberrant attitude”, since your “ideal” is to only feel that closeness to those whom you think are “your people”….don’t you think?

  482. dale July 7, 2012 at 3:46 pm #

    Once in Utne Reader, someone wrote that they hated
    Ithaca [Cornell] where whites would
    ‘Walk past a crack house to go to a Tibet Benefit’!!
    You would have them stop and buy some crack on the way?

  483. dale July 7, 2012 at 3:52 pm #

    I’d assert your boy might be better off at a local vocational community college learning how to weld pipe, turn a lathe or smith a muzzleloader.
    I’m not sure who would make a worse therapist, you or Vlad. Just what a guy with emotional problems needs, time alone with a muzzleloader. “Goon from the Moon” material here.

  484. dale July 7, 2012 at 3:59 pm #

    All those Hindu and Buddhist cult f—ers tell you dont care about money; at the same time they’re shaking down the clueless and gullible for every dime they can get.
    Just like all those Money Cult Fuckers, constantly worried about someone shaking them down for the little money they usually have.

  485. BeantownBill July 7, 2012 at 5:54 pm #

    An anxiety problem is a bear; it can rule (or ruin) your life. The problem can be caused by either a chemical imbalance or a psychological disorder, as you probably know. Just as you know that while anti-anxiety medication can resolve the symptoms, they can’t cure the issue. There are many psychologists/psychiatrists that deal with this disorder, which is curable. Anxiety disorders are nothing to be ashamed of. Nobody should have to go through life with this condition.
    Concerning college, let me tell you a little story. Years ago my daughter, who was always told she had to go to college, was enrolled in a 2-year junior college where she would get an associates degree, then attend a regular 4 year college for her 3rd and 4th years and get a bachelor’s degree.
    Six weeks before graduation from the junior college, she told me wanted to drop out and get a job (in those days getting a job was no big deal). I could have hit the roof, but I decided to play it cool. I told her that she didn’t have to go for a four year degree, I was ok with it and give her my blessings, but only on the condition that since she had already finished 3.5 out of 4 semesters, that she finish up and get her A.A. Degree, and then she could go out and get a job. As a kicker, I told her I’d deal with her mother about this, because she was terrified about what her mother was going to say.
    End result, she graduated, got a job, and soon found out she wouldn’t get anywhere with a 2-year business degree. Almost a year later, she came to us saying she was quitting her job and getting her B.A. She later got her M.B.A. and has been doing very well helping run my business.
    Not forcing her to continue college was the smartest thing I ever did. While getting a college degree is nice, it definitely isn’t mandatory in this world. Marlin was correct, learning a practical skill is very important, IMO.

  486. anti soak July 7, 2012 at 6:07 pm #

    ‘He said to me that Naropa teaches undergrads NOT to care about money’
    Oh Yes! Such Crazy Wisdom!!!
    CHARGE THEM 26,000 $ A YEAR FOR CLASSES AND TELL THEM ‘NOT TO CARE ABOUT MONEY, UNLIKE MAHA SIDDA DRUNKEN TRUNGPA, who cared about wealth, money, power and dumb white chicks a great deal
    A long time Nygma Buddhist woman went so far as to say that ‘Trungpa married a 16 year old, at some point she was ‘shut up’ by buying her a horse ranch [in Canada?] and she was exiled.
    Remember they didnt care about money [cough].

  487. anti soak July 7, 2012 at 6:08 pm #

    well, who are they?

  488. anti soak July 7, 2012 at 6:11 pm #

    I read that they had low cancer rates, until they started Pasteurizing zee Milk.
    I do not know how much truth is in that study.
    Often they stay lean, eat homecooked meals [an increasing rarity here] and manage stress.
    And JHK might say ‘they walk because they live in walkable cities and towns’.

  489. San Jose Mom 51 July 7, 2012 at 6:16 pm #

    Thanks for your wisdom on this matter. Since he’s been home, he’s been working with a psychologist on a weekly basis, so hopefully this will be helpful. Initially he was on an SSRI, but he’s been tapering off since May.
    One of the reasons I was grumbling yesterday was because of his psychiatrist. He went in for a 15-minute appointment for a med-check (cost=$150)and gave the doctor a 2-page document to file paperwork with SJSU about his anxiety diagnosis–just in case something goes terribly wrong during the school year. The doctor told him he didn’t have time to fill out paperwork and if he wanted the paperwork completed, he’d have to make another appointment to get it done. He made another appointment.
    This situation really got me going. What’s that saying about moms….”You’re only as happy as your most miserable child.”

  490. San Jose Mom 51 July 7, 2012 at 6:37 pm #

    Not caring about money. Yeah right!
    Here’s a “crazy wisdom” anecdote. When my son got caught with pot, he was in the apartment next door at a party hosted by X, the daughter of the CEO and president of Fannie Mae. They were passing a bong around and my son was inhaling just as Alexio, the big cheese of the dorm, walked in. (Mind you, I think it’s good that he got caught.) After Alexio left, Miss X was in a snit because her bong and pot were confiscated. In a huff, she said to my son (as he was in a panic), “I’m calling my dad right now and I promise that this will be resolved by morning!”
    Yeah, right. Subsequently, Miss X got cited again for throwing an empty vodka bottle out of her second-story window onto the concrete patio below. Then “Mr. Fannie Mae” paid Naropa University a personal visit (in his own Lear Jet, no doubt).

  491. Tark July 7, 2012 at 7:07 pm #

    I think that I taught myself something similar to that, minus the Chakras.

  492. Buck Stud July 7, 2012 at 9:02 pm #

    teach him to work with the breath. Have him breathe into his heart and NOT into the solar plexus chakra which where fear is manifested. A bit of rapid breathing under His control could help in the midst of the crisis.

    You might be right and you might be wrong. Who knows. But the advice you’re giving – breath into a specific anatomical region which is in close proximity to the area ‘he should avoid’- is pretty specific and would require not a small amount of breath control.
    Refreshingly, and unlike WSP, you don’t deride time honored traditions with terms like “bullshit” based upon the most intellectually lazy stereotyping.
    At any rate, I read your advice not so much as avoiding the solar plexus per se, but more as working from the top down- which is good advice.
    Ultimately, if the energy/breath could drop into the tan tien in an unimpeded and non-forced way, while simultaneously breathing from the ming men point(toward the back at the level of the tan tien) the kidneys energy be beneficially strengthed. Or at least according to Chinese Taoist thought which believes that fear and anxiety weakens the kidney energy and that a weakened kidney energy gives rise to anxiety and fear.

  493. Buck Stud July 7, 2012 at 9:08 pm #

    And just in case anyone might interested this book (along with The Great Stillness) is the definitive source on the water method of Taoist meditation. And some of the reviews are worth reading:

  494. Iona Laundramat July 7, 2012 at 9:20 pm #

    My sympathy goes out to you and I hope your son does better in San Jose.
    My nephew was in rehab for a few months to the tune of over 30 grand. He does a lot of self medicating for considerable depression issues and is using again after all that time and money. I don’t envy anyone who is coming of age at this time.

  495. Kyooshtik July 7, 2012 at 9:34 pm #

    Chinese Taoist thought which believes that fear and anxiety weakens the kidney energy and that a weakened kidney energy gives rise to anxiety and fear.
    Sounds like your common vicious cycle.

  496. Iona Laundramat July 7, 2012 at 9:55 pm #

    Chinese thought is circular rather than linear. So the solution here is if you tonify the kidney adequately the fear and anxiety will subside. Keep the kidney strong and the emotions will stay in balance.
    By the way the herb ganoderma (a mushroom) is excellent for tonifying the Kidney yin, to put it in traditional Chinese medical terms. These are available in pill form at any store that has herbal products. And it sure beats using valium or prozac or whatever Big Pharma is cooking up these days which only masks the symptoms without getting at the source of the problem.
    OK. I’ve said my bit.

  497. Pucker July 7, 2012 at 10:00 pm #

    SJM 51: I hope that your son recovers soon.
    I’m wondering if there’s a way to strengthen a person’s Will so that he/she can have the strength to flush the drugs/booze down the toilet?
    Maybe enroll him in a boat building class? Give him a skill so that he can feel proud of himself?

  498. Iona Laundramat July 7, 2012 at 10:03 pm #

    Jen –
    I have a couple of good friends in San Jose who would be more than happy to deal with this psychiatrist. Their names are Cheech and Vinnie…

  499. Pucker July 7, 2012 at 10:12 pm #

    Mainland Chinese people don’t have any individual self-Will, which makes them susceptible to external influences and suggestions. So, under the influence of Capitalistic consumerism, the whole society quickly becomes corrupt and goes down the toilet.

  500. anti soak July 7, 2012 at 10:29 pm #

    Yes, you had told us this story before!
    Id like the names, please!

  501. anti soak July 7, 2012 at 10:31 pm #

    Yes, I know him well.

  502. Pucker July 7, 2012 at 10:40 pm #

    What’s the name of that boat building course run by that bloke named “Noah”?
    Or, is the bloke’s name “Orlov”?

  503. Vlad Krandz July 7, 2012 at 10:43 pm #

    Well you don’t have to be a great Yogi to know that fear is often experienced in the stomach. So I’d have him get away from that at first. But at a higher level, the “stomach” is an excellent place to put energy. Once while suffering from a hernia, I was hobbling to work in alot of pain. Suddenly my energy shifted into some kind of center down there and I lit up like the Sun. I skimmed over the ground as I walked and my everyone gave me a big happy greeting when I got to work – as if the Engery had preceded me.
    Don’t know if it was the tan tien or the manipura chakra – which is usually placed a bit higher. It felt more “global” than the manipura and a bit lower so I think it was some kind of extreme tan tien experience. Grace – since I wasn’t and am not enough of a Yogi to have attained that. And I made no effort – it just happened.

  504. Vlad Krandz July 7, 2012 at 10:59 pm #

    Start here Dale:
    This book will help you explore the roots of your dis-ease.
    Also as one of commentators points out via Ayn Rand, giving or “altruism” is no moral code since it is thoughtless. Give to whom? How much? Is the trillion given to Africa over the last few decades really a good idea? So many clothes have been given that the native tailor have been put out of business. It’s a complicated subject to say the least.
    In any case, charity should start at home. And here is where you and your’s fall down completely. Giving to Americans, especially Whites, is boring and doesn’t give any points. The more exotic the better. Love your neighbor as yourself? But Whites don’t love themselves as a group so it doesn’t work. As the Dalai Lama has said, he is amazed at the level of mental illness in the West. Pathological Altruism is just one more symptom of this.
    And as Ayn said, charity must be free. You don’t owe the bum anything. If you think you do, you’e going to get nickeled and dimed to death literally and metaphorically – and not just by bums but by parasites of all kinds. And of course, Blacks are among the worst: they think we own them everything. They take zero responsibility for anything. But you wouldn’t know since you’ve never lived among them.

  505. Pucker July 7, 2012 at 11:26 pm #

    I recently told a girl that she is “HOT”..but that turning on the air conditioner probably won’t help….
    PHILADELPHIA – Americans dipped into the water, went to the movies and rode the subway just to be in air conditioning Saturday for relief from unrelenting heat that has killed at least 30 people across half the country.
    The heat sent temperatures soaring over 100 degrees Fahrenheit (38 degrees Celsius) in several cities, including a record 105 F (40.5 C) in Washington, St. Louis (106 F, 41 C), and Indianapolis (104 F, 40 C), buckled highways and derailed a Washington-area train even as another round of summer storms threatened.

  506. Vlad Krandz July 7, 2012 at 11:47 pm #

    Get out while you still can. You tried to lure me in but I forgive you. You didn’t know.

  507. Vlad Krandz July 8, 2012 at 1:10 am #

    This is what Ozone is trying to say if he could bring himself to use real English and was a few time more eloquent.

  508. Pucker July 8, 2012 at 2:29 am #

    BOSTON (Reuters) – Democratic Representative Barney Frank wed his longtime partner, James Ready, on Saturday, becoming the first sitting congressman to enter into a same-sex marriage.

  509. Pucker July 8, 2012 at 2:36 am #

    BOSTON (Reuters) – Democratic Representative Barney Frank wed his longtime partner, James Ready, on Saturday, becoming the first sitting congressman to enter into a same-sex marriage.
    I Am Woman
    -Artist: Helen Reddy from “Helen Reddy’s Greatest Hits”: EMI ST 11467
    -peak Billboard position # 1 for 1 week in 1972
    -Words and Music by Helen Reddy and Ray Burton
    I am woman, hear me roar
    In numbers too big to ignore
    And I know too much to go back an’ pretend
    ’cause I’ve heard it all before
    And I’ve been down there on the floor
    No one’s ever gonna keep me down again
    Oh yes I am wise
    But it’s wisdom born of pain
    Yes, I’ve paid the price
    But look how much I gained
    If I have to, I can do anything
    I am strong (strong)
    I am invincible (invincible)
    I am woman
    You can bend but never break me
    ’cause it only serves to make me
    More determined to achieve my final goal
    And I come back even stronger
    Not a novice any longer
    ’cause you’ve deepened the conviction in my soul
    I am woman watch me grow
    See me standing toe to toe
    As I spread my lovin’ arms across the land
    But I’m still an embryo
    With a long long way to go
    Until I make my brother understand
    Oh yes I am wise
    But it’s wisdom born of pain
    Yes, I’ve paid the price
    But look how much I gained
    If I have to I can face anything
    I am strong (strong)
    I am invincible (invincible)
    I am woman
    Oh, I am woman
    I am invincible
    I am strong
    I am woman
    I am invincible
    I am strong
    I am woman

  510. Buck Stud July 8, 2012 at 2:55 am #

    I believe you about your experience. Recently, I also had some type of experience – I think. For a number of months my lower back had been giving me problems, such as stiffness in the morning. So I started doing more Tai Chi and meditation; a lot more in fact. One morning while laying in bed and more or less sleeping, I suddenly had a severe jolt in my sacrum area. When I awoke I thought I had been dreaming but the sensation was far too real. I then became concerned that I had injured my back because the jolt was so violent; in fact, it felt as if “something” foreign had literally grabbed my my tailbone and induced a sudden whiplash in my lower back. It almost felt electric, but distinctly different from any chiropractic adjustment that I have ever received.
    Well, I wasn’t injured; in fact, all lower back pain has completely vanished, even when I try and elicit some of the previous pain with activities and movements that formerly aggravated my lower back pain.
    It was truly a strange experience; so strange that I still question whether it actually occurred. And yet the pain is gone.
    Of course, now that I have mentioned it, my back pain will probably return

  511. BeingThere July 8, 2012 at 8:52 am #

    Interesting…I’ve had problems with yoga and have been a chronic back sufferer for 29 years.
    I battle this out in a swimming pool doing a mile’s worth of laps and it’s really been a great help to me.
    I haven’t gotten any acute back problems in years but when I get some seizing, I get out of it fairly quickly.
    Stretching and exercising has not totally eradicated my pain, but I can ignore it most of the time.–Icing on the cake? I’ve managed to keep my weight the same for decades.

  512. BeingThere July 8, 2012 at 8:54 am #

    Chris Hayes has Bill McKibben on—really good show. Sunday 8:00-10:00 am MSNBC.
    Saturday’s show was excellent as well.

  513. Kyooshtik July 8, 2012 at 11:58 am #

    Giving to Americans, especially Whites, is boring and doesn’t give any points.
    or perhaps

  514. Vlad Krandz July 8, 2012 at 12:16 pm #

    Well chi follows attention and pain certainly brings alot of attention – so perhaps there’s a natural healing mechanism? Of course, if actual structural damadge has been done it might take more – like surgery in my case.
    It was the psychic aspects of my experience that seem like Grace. From a more yogic or “engineering” point of view: the pain put my attention down near the tan tien and then I just blundered into the Center.

  515. Kyooshtik July 8, 2012 at 12:23 pm #

    It felt more “global” than the manipura and a bit lower so I think it was some kind of extreme tan tien experience.
    Roughly translated from the Hindi:
    tan = hash mark inducing
    tien = fart

  516. Vlad Krandz July 8, 2012 at 12:32 pm #

    Yes they are a very inspiring cupple. Imagine a tape of their nuptials – it would make millions in both the gay and horror genres. Move over Paris, Barney’s in the house!

  517. Vlad Krandz July 8, 2012 at 12:36 pm #

    What you talkin’ bout Rufus? We talkin’ Chini here.
    Do you miss Gary Coleman as much as I do? He was a true little soldier on the set from all accounts. He would have made a fine president – no worse than Obama and probably alot better.
    I know you’re still angry at me about the moral question. You hate all that shit – you like the lowest common denominator because it can be charted on your balance sheets. But society can’t run that way – as you also know underneath that. We are at the end of of all these dead ends and now we have to retrace our steps to where we went wrong.

  518. Kyooshtik July 8, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    I still question whether it actually occurred. And yet the pain is gone.
    Oh yes, it happened. And the credit probably goes to the placebo effect of the meditation.

  519. Vlad Krandz July 8, 2012 at 12:40 pm #

    Dale’s best friend is his Mexican Gardener. The poor guy has to listen to Dale talk about his life and then hug him at the end.

  520. Vlad Krandz July 8, 2012 at 12:46 pm #

    And trippers actually claim that colors get brighter – but can they prove that they see brighter colors!?
    Behaviorism or science applied to the human psyche as if it was inert matter is a dead end. It can’t even all the potentials of rats – nor predict with complete accuracy what they will do in any situation.
    Maybe your mind is just a placebo or simalacrum of something else. Maybe aliens looking down would conclude that you are a slave of your cats.

  521. Kyooshtik July 8, 2012 at 12:51 pm #

    I know you’re still angry at me about the moral question.
    Nah, just havin’ fun while watching the Wimbledon Men’s final. The dreams of a nation of people with screwed up teeth rest on Andy Murray’s shoulders.
    Go Andy!!

  522. Kyooshtik July 8, 2012 at 1:01 pm #

    Maybe aliens looking down would conclude that you are a slave of your cats.
    They would be right.

  523. myrtlemay July 8, 2012 at 1:11 pm #

    SJ Mom info. (name) on pot raid. CEO of Fannie Mae, the girl’s dad, is Michael Williams, graduate of Drexel U. with both B.S. and MBA. According to Forbes, he draws a salary of about 2.5 million per year and recently received a bonus for a similar amount. Unrelated, Williams resigned his position in June and a replacement is now in his position. He worked for Fannie Mae for about 2 1/2 years.
    Sounds like his little girl was LOADED, not just on pot and vodka.

  524. anti soak July 8, 2012 at 1:57 pm #

    I started having Back Problems around the age of 35.
    Endured it and Chiropractors for about 10 years, with no ‘cure’.
    I spoke to a PT, who accurately diagnosed the problem. the problem was I like to sleep on a firm mattress and my lower back muscles were fibrotic from doing so. I got a softer, more expensive mattress [no not a 3000$ one they tried to sell me, Scandinavia sleep system, etc].
    VOILA, No Chiropractors and no back problems.
    Not one DC did a good diagnosis, and I went to maybe a half dozen.

  525. anti soak July 8, 2012 at 2:00 pm #

    Kyooshtik , you wiley ole Rascal. Thise words are Chinese, they talk Chink WOOWOO.
    But if you stick yr tantien up Bucks Hot Chakra,
    you will be a real stud, and maybe he will return the favor!!!

  526. anti soak July 8, 2012 at 2:03 pm #

    Once I wrote here of going to a ballroom to hear ‘Mafu’ [as channeled by Penney Torres].
    I see whats out there as more New Age or things stolen from eastern religions and packaged, the most [in] famous being Scientology.
    Its got some Buddhism and whatever else ol ScamRon could scavenge.

  527. anti soak July 8, 2012 at 2:05 pm #

    Cool! Another Robber Barons son was in these parts, causing problems, but I wont name him.

  528. BeingThere July 8, 2012 at 2:14 pm #

    Know what you mean by how important mattresses are.
    I was hit by a car when I was 18, so I knew I’d have problems later on.
    Sure enough after many bouts with acute problems, I had one unbelievable bout that lasted a solid year. —
    Truly the worst year of my life and very hard to cope through with lots of PT etc.
    I took up swimming, in the end the relief was always in my hands. A pillow under my knees when I slept helped. Lots of stretching also really helpful.
    I’ll always have this, but I can ignore it 90% of the time. The pain is just like white noise to me, now.

  529. anti soak July 8, 2012 at 2:14 pm #

    How about this, You go Rumba with his Zumba, and no longer be worlds apart.Make some beautiful music together.
    [“Wiki” reference is wrong: Zumba and Qi Gong are worlds apart.]

  530. Buck Stud July 8, 2012 at 2:54 pm #

    The only way ‘Q’s tantien goes up Buck’s hot chakra’ is if Buck feels generous enough to buy Q a testosterone patch.
    But I’m even cheaper than Q so no such activity will ever occur.

  531. Buck Stud July 8, 2012 at 3:03 pm #

    I’ve been thinking about an appropriate theme song for CFN and somehow this song seems fitting:

  532. Vlad Krandz July 8, 2012 at 3:34 pm #

    get – yiddish for the profit

  533. Vlad Krandz July 8, 2012 at 3:39 pm #

    Yes, we come from the water and must go back to it. The Ancient Greeks said that dolphins were once men and had cities and all the rest. Perhaps we will have to follow them back home.

  534. anti soak July 8, 2012 at 4:03 pm #

    Whether or not it was a coincidence or I got a heating pad from Ceragem, around the time things cleared up. Cost me a few hundred dollars for the heating pad.
    I did not buy the ‘massager’ [1000 $ +].
    CERAGEM International
    Ceragem International’s offical website……..

  535. BeingThere July 8, 2012 at 4:50 pm #

    It’s amazing how much money we’ll spend when we’re in pain. I remember tat year I went to one doctor after another and tried everything from nerve conduction tests to cat scans….
    I’m glad this worked for you and I checked it out. Sounds interesting.
    Vlad—Liked the dolphin reference–put a smile on my face. Once in a while you say something poetic.
    In the TV series Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Universe, a superhighway was about to go through the earth by aliens who thought we were just an inconvenience. The dolphins as they escaped the planet said “Goodbye, and thanks for the Fish”.

  536. shecky July 8, 2012 at 5:02 pm #

    Active Isolated Stretching- The Mattes Method. The movements are subtle and complex, but well worth the effort to learn properly. I do the hip/back protocol daily, the shoulder protocol 2-3 times a week. As a bonus, the activation of the core muscles works a lot like Pilates.
    At 57, with a very physical job and a pension that will not kick in for another 12 years, AIS has saved my ass.
    (Probably won’t save my pension; my employer was recently purchased by vulture capitalists, and guess what they want. Glad I have a strong union. It’s been a brawl.)
    A good mattress is important too.
    Shecky got yer back!

  537. dale July 8, 2012 at 5:24 pm #

    In any case, charity should start at home. And here is where you and your’s fall down completely. Giving to Americans, especially Whites, is boring and doesn’t give any points.
    BAHAHA! rest assured Vlad, if I don’t respond to this sort of drivel, it isn’t because I’m dumbstruck with the brilliance of your insight.

  538. dale July 8, 2012 at 6:52 pm #

    SJ Mom,
    I’ve been puzzling over your description of your son’s experience at Naropa for a couple days. While I don’t doubt the facts as you have presented them, there are a couple curious points, from my POV.
    Bear in mind, I see no reason to attend an institution such as Naropa unless you do so in much the same way you might take a class in painting at night school, it’s extra credit for life, not a career path….obviously. Even from a Buddhist POV, if what you want is serious attainment, it is possible, but there are better ways to do it, IMO.
    Specifically, I was struck by your suggestion that there was a long of pot smoking at the place, that doesn’t make much sense. If you want to goof off for a few years, why not take “film” at Northridge State or “fashion design” at Louisiana Tech, I’m sure “Bong Mechanics” is a four-credit course in those type programs. Why go to a Buddhist institution where you are practically guaranteed to be an outcast and kill any chance you have of really getting anything out it by being loaded all the time. Just “doppy” in so many, many ways.
    The other thing that struck me is the apparent lack of guidance, perhaps from both the school and elsewhere. What were his intentions, and what did he do to show his interest in Buddhism before he decided to attend Naropa, did he attend a lot of retreats, spend time daily in meditation, or did he just decide it sounded like fun? What was he doing there with emotional problems such as his? again…..makes no sense.
    I’m no authority on child rearing, and I’m not criticizing your efforts in that regard, but there just seems to be a lot of unknown parts of the story somewhere between the lines. In an case, best of luck to you both.

  539. San Jose Mom 51 July 8, 2012 at 8:32 pm #

    He’d been on a buddhist retreat (Theravada) at Spirit Rock Meditation Center in Marin County. Also went to Adyashanti’s Satsangs (Advaita/Zen) for some years, he also did a retreat at Esalen. He’s always been a deep thinker/what is the meaning of life, kind of kid.
    Part of the rational for going to Boulder was the fact that Naropa is very small with class size around 22. We felt that it would provide a supportive environment. Naropa has the largest grad school in psychology M.S. & PhD in Colorado. He’d received college credit for a high school AP psychology class and he liked the subject. They approach psychology from both Eastern and Western models, so that seemed interesting to him.
    Prior to going to Boulder, his anxiety issues were something he could handle…he’d undergone years of cognitive/behavioral therapy at Stanford.

  540. SDGreg July 8, 2012 at 10:00 pm #

    There’s at least one class action lawsuit related to those hip replacement devices:
    I don’t know if it’s the same type you have, but the health impacts appear similar. Very nasty.

  541. dale July 8, 2012 at 11:31 pm #

    Thanks for the reply, yes Buddhism has produced some positive results in terms of physiological counseling, wasn’t aware that Naropa was focused in that area, so now I understand the rational for extended study there. Obviously, nothing works for everyone. Again, best of luck to you both.

  542. dale July 8, 2012 at 11:38 pm #

    If he retains his interest in Buddhism, wherever he goes from here, and he is interested in a non-mystical, very practical level of instruction, in an environment which blends both western and eastern thinking, you might have him check out Alan Wallance. When he taught at UCSB, his classes would have about 80 students in front, and about 200 “auditing” from the rear. Very inspirational guy, in a lot of ways.
    Mind you, I’m not interested in proselytizing, your karma takes you where it takes you. Cheers!

  543. Buck Stud July 9, 2012 at 12:11 am #

    Thanks for posting the above link; I found a very interesting article in the research section of that site concerning the benefits of meditation:

  544. Buck Stud July 9, 2012 at 12:29 am #

    A very interesting couple of paragraphs by way of Dale’s posted link above:

    SCIENTISTS AGREE THAT MUCH OF THE ILLNESS plaguing people in the developed world—conditions like heart disease, cancer, hypertension, diabetes, and many autoimmune disorders—is exacerbated by chronic stress. When we perceive threats, the body’s “fight or flight” system is activated, releasing bursts of cortisol and adrenaline that speed up the heart and breathing, constrict blood vessels and trigger a cascade of other reactions. If this stress response stays stuck in the “on” position, this can lead to heightened inflammation and potentially damage tissues throughout the body.
    Elissa Epel lists some of the common mental habits that keep stress alive in the brain and the body in a state of high alert. One is anticipatory anxiety—worry about future events. Another is rumination, obsessively reliving the past. In both instances, people release extra doses of cortisol. “Our survival response is no longer tied to our physical survival threats of not getting enough food or water but rather our social self,” Epel says. “If we are humiliated or embarrassed or threatened, then we have a huge cortisol response.”

    “Anticipatory anxiety—worry about future events” – that is what really caught my eye. And isn’t that what we do here on CFN week after week, month after month, year after year?
    Perhaps the ‘Don’t Worry, Be Happy’ crowd aren’t such ostriches after all. In fact, maybe they’re the ironic survivalists.