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The only trouble with the conspiracy theory that hundreds of prominent and powerful people wanted Jeffrey Epstein dead is that Jeffrey Epstein might have wanted Jeffrey Epstein dead even more than they did. But that’s mere conjecture. His mind is beyond being read. Of course, the evidence of his alleged crimes didn’t die — the “meticulous” records he kept live on, along with the names of Mr. Epstein’s patrons, clients, marks, however you might classify the celebs drawn into the pulsating estrogenic bubble of his life, humming that old tune “Thank Heaven for Little Girls….”
I’m a little surprised that Attorney General William Barr didn’t have a heart attack upon learning the news. With Mr. Barr already fully engaged cleaning up the mighty mess in the Department of Justice, the FBI, and elsewhere — considerably aggravated by Robert Mueller’s bungled operations — another stink bomb leaves federal law enforcement beskunked, bothered, and bewildered. And now the FBI is being sent into investigate? That’s rich. America’s Deep State looks like a re-make of that marvelous 2018 movie The Death of Stalin, a fabulous burlesque of people in high places acting like dishonorable idiots.
The Federal Bureau of Prisons has some ‘splainin’ to do, and they didn’t bother doing much of that on Sunday after the news came out. They failed entirely at every critical point of responsibility for keeping the DOJ’s number one criminal suspect alive: took him off suicide watch a week after he tried to off himself (if that‘s what it was); failed to keep him on observation; failed to provide a cell-mate who might have alerted the guards; and failed to deploy viable video cameras to record the doings in his cell.
That’s a pretty sensational fail. You really can’t blame the public for feeling a little paranoid about the rot at the center of government. The death of Mr. Epstein may be a turning point in the public’s willingness to swallow any more official bullshit. A great many Americans — those who don’t rely on Rachel Maddow and The New York Times to do their reality testing for them — already must be impatient with the (so far) utter lack of accountability among officials implicated in that other Keystone Kops episode, the RussiaGate fiasco.
Like the sordid case of Jeffrey Epstein, RussiaGate was an affair with the tentacles of Hillary Clinton entangled through it. It was an astounding feat of legerdemain that Mr. Mueller managed to spend two years investigating the matter, and then put out 400-plus pages of a report, without ever noticing that Mrs. Clinton’s chief campaign oppo ops contractor, Glenn Simpson, was the originator of the whole thing. It may have been a too-fine point for the moiling multitudes in Flyover-land, but surely some of the spellbound Muellerites among the coastal thinking class were taken aback when the Great Man fumbled it so abysmally in his recent performance before the House Intelligence Committee.
Jeffrey Epstein is the first character in this multi-thread melodrama to turn up dead suspiciously — if you don’t count the unresolved murder of DNC employee Seth Rich, the possible conduit of those now-legendary DNC emails to Wikileaks. Rich was found on a Washington DC sidewalk with two bullets in his back and his wallet and cell phone both still on his person at the murder scene. The allegations connecting Seth Rich to the DNC email “leak” are supposedly “debunked,” only with no evidence, really, one way or the other, just the say-so of interested parties. It is often averred that Julian Assange could answer that riddle definitively, but Mr. Assange has not played that card (and Mr. Mueller never interviewed him).
In any case, Mr. Epstein’s supposed suicide has rocked the establishment again. The shock was palpable across the news-scape yesterday in the dearth of information the media managed to scare up in the first twenty-four hours about the most obvious questions. As I write, there’s still no “definitive” cause-of-death from the New York City medical examiner. What might they be looking for? Signs of a struggle, suggesting that Mr. E’s suicide was assisted, shall we say? Chemical analysis of his blood? Who knows what’s holding back the info? And even if foul play can’t be demonstrated, the fishy incident spreads ever more odium across US officialdom.
Meanwhile, any number of disgraced federal officials, whose misdeeds are richly documented in the public record, remain on the loose. Andrew McCabe, Bruce, Ohr, Peter Strzok, James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper, and many more — once the cream of the upper echelons of federal authority! The Epstein debacle puts more pressure on William Barr, John Durham, and Michael Horowitz to get on with their jobs. All these unresolved mysteries give Americans a reason to want to arm themselves against a recklessly rogue and sinister government.
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The reactions to the Epstein “suicide” are almost as telling as the event itself. It shows nothing less than a complete loss of faith in existing institutions, which is a classic symptom of civilization decline. See https://darkageprep.com/2019/08/11/too-dangerous-to-live/ for more on this topic.
Jeff lives [in Israel?]
Mossad?
What about his accomplice, with the funny name?
What about his accomplice, with the funny name? – Malthuss
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I assume you mean Ghislaine Maxwell? Yeah, it’s a first name you don’t hear every day. Coincidentally it’s the name of my wife’s best bud. She’s a mulatto. Daughter of a French woman and a black man (American).
“The reactions to the Epstein “suicide” are almost as telling as the event itself. ”
True. So many have a sense of the unraveling, just waiting to see what comes next. The current situation is so bizarre that there is not so much a feeling of fear for what’s next as a “get on with it” kind of feeling.
It’s right out of the Godfather. Follow the money and bank accounts of the guards, and wait for someone to live large. Then, unravel the yarn.
Of course there might be a few more suicides and mysterious car fires along the way.
My God, everything is so corrupted by money in the US (ain’t capitalism grand)? This could go Hong Kong, at any time. All someone has to do is take out a few Mountain Dew bottling plants after shooting up some Walmarts. Trumptards will react and here we go, Martial Law and Emergency Decrees, say around 2020? (Just to keep someone out of jail).
Any guards involved will be dead in 90 days. Probably shot at a deserted intersection like before. No way Bill and Hillary would chance being exposed!
No one hates the Clintons more than i do. But I suspect this hit was ordered at a much higher level.
Hundreds of elitists were at risk of exposure. And we may stil have Epstein’s journal entries. Sure that helps, But without live witness testimony, it’s just a bunch of names written in a book – not legal proof of anything.
Your narrative is a gross mischaracterization of reality.
Tell me are Antifa Trump supporters?
Are the Neo-Nazi white power types Trump supporters?
The answer to both is a firm hell no.
Just who routinely engages in violence as a way to over throw the establishment?
At least in this country it appears to be anarchists and leftist in the form or Socialist and Communists.
You must be new to conspiracy theories. The guards will simply end up dead in a short time.
Oh yeah, and as for the Trumptards comment, GFY, moron.
Don’t go for the ad hominem, simply destroy his Shareblue narrative with facts.
Like the fact that Virginia G’s recently released testimony from the initial Epstein trial contains multiple passages that she never heard of or saw Trump with any of Epstein’s girls, nor was he ever at the island or any of Eppy’s compounds. Then point out Trump banned Epstein from his properties after an alleged assault by Epstein. Then point out that Trump’s DOJ has been quietly pursuing child trafficking cases in a rate previously unheard of.
Then proceed to ask the goblin about Bill Clinton, Tony Podesta, and co.
@nightowl
Pretty sure the NPC calling itself Paulo is a piss poor rendition of AI driven detritus.
Notice it drives by splatters fecal matter in the form of nonsense and anti-trumpster dumpster dredging’s and moves on.
“My God, everything is so corrupted by money in the US (ain’t capitalism grand)?”
This isn’t capitalism. This is fascism.
Find that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet which the US violated the Geneva Conventions to start a war over?
Figure out what brought down WTC build number SEVEN yet?
*Shrug* – I think we’ve hit the breaking point where even the average joe is going to realize that their government is about as truthful as the USSR was back in 1985. We’ve been in 20 MISERABLE years of this.
Hi, John. I read your entry and, while I don’t have anything to say about Epstein’s death except “good riddance,” I do about another point your brought up: “They no longer believe that the political process is fair and honest – vote fraud, gerrymandering, foreign interference, courts overruling voters, etc.” That list doesn’t even include the ability of bad actors to use big data derived from social media, particularly Facebook, to manipulate voters. That’s the subject of at least two documentaries, “The Facebook Dilemma” on “Frontline,” which has been nominated for two News and Documentary Emmy Awards, and the Netflix documentary “The Great Hack,” which explores how online data affects public opinion focusing on the Cambridge Analytica scandal. Who needs Russian interference when a British company will do the job?
Nothing to say about the death of a billion butterflies being more important than the death of one man? I’m not a Utilitarian, that is a shallow self serving philosophy; but perhaps I’ll make an exception. Epstein’s life was not worth a billion times the life of a Monarch Butterfly.
A serious question. But if you want a good laugh, re-read this line:
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The death of Mr. Epstein may be a turning point in the public’s willingness to swallow any more official bullshit.
That made me laugh so hard I had to pee.
Did you find a fire hydrant? LOL.
Just in time.
Well isn’t it a bit silly to believe that people are going to care about the deaths of a billion monarch butterflies if they don’t care about what did or did not happen to Epstein?
People care. The thought of this choad living large in seclusion in a faraway place is driving people to distraction.
He paid one of the guards to bring in a rope. That’s an expensive piece of rope!
Neonicotinoid Toxicity will be discovered as the ultimate cause. Neonicotinoid pesticides are killing ‘pollinators’ across the land in record numbers. Epstein must not have been aware of the danger enough to Beeware of the danger. As a pollinator he was highly susceptible.
The handshake!
I’m sure it will be one of the ultimate causes. I live in a rural area with no use of neonicotinoid pesticides as far as I can tell. If it is still occurring, it is declining. Nonetheless, when our village received its first 4G cellular antenna a couple of years ago, the pollinators in my yard disappeared, but we still had them in our main field not too far away. This year they were gone. The smart meter rollout hit our area, and now there are seven smart meters facing our field at short distances.
In one corner of the field, I still see cabbage butterflies and bees busy working over a catnip bush. That bush is the furthest from the smart meters and has its view of the nearest one blocked by at least 5 meters of thick foliage from hydrangea bushes. A catnip plant within view of the meter will get visited occasionally by a butterfly. The broccoli near our greenhouse, which is heavily affected by the meters remains completely untouched by the cabbage butterflies.
We had a very poor yield of blueberries near one of the smart meters.
The other day, my husband put out pieces of a rotting watermelon near two of the smart meters (10 meters away). In years past in August, this would have attracted various butterflies, several hornet species and giant beetles. This year, nothing at all! Except a small variety of fly, there are no insects attracted to that watermelon. Not even ants.
In March/April of this year the crows and kites that had been residing adjacent to our field all left. I hear the familiar call of one of the crows in the distance from time to time, but day after day I monitor that field. One day a month ago, one kite came back, and then an hour or so later left again. For a while we still had wagtails around the greenhouse, then they left too. Now we still have barn swallows. They have a major nesting site out of range of the nearest smart meters. Sparrows and starlings used to nest around the houses near our field, but no longer do. They show up in hungry mobs and raid our field from time to time. All the farmers have had trouble with them.
In Japan, this technological rollout is resulting in a major loss of habitat for birds accustomed to being around humans. I go into the city and see not a single bird. A temple with very loud cicadas in past years had no cicadas.
There is good news and bad news to this. The bad news is according to the technofabulists, the Internet is forever and ever, hallelujah, amen. Ssergorp the Unstoppable demands living sacrifices. The good news is they’re wrong: Peak Resources will come to the rescue, and unlike with chemicals that can persists for ages, once these things do get turned off, the damage will cease, and then pockets of these creatures that have somehow been spared this scourge can start repopulating the landscape once more. Our idiotic use of destructive chemicals will probably cease at roughly the same time.
But until then, we may lose quite a few important species, possibly even our own.
Hint, hint?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg
I heard they found him dead from suicide, with two bullets in the back of his head.
After having read histories of previous empires which collapsed what a strange experience to be a citizen of just such an empire in the present day. To witness some of the tell-tale signs which before seemed just a fascinating read now occurs to a man as a visceral nightmare. May God help us all.
I’ve wondered for years what a resident of Rome, about the year 400, must have been thinking, before the sack (which wasn’t that bad, actually) of the city in 410, when the rulers of the Empire, then in Ravenna or Milan, decided to sacrifice the interests of Roman Citizens to preserve their privileges. It’s grim to contemplate but also freeing: they don’t care about us, so why obey them? Their power becomes increasingly thin.
Life in the Western Empire actually improved from about the year 400 to about the year 650: with Christianization, you had increasing populations and increasing commerce. All that ended when trade with the East was cut off by the Rise of Mohammed; details, for the curious, in the book Mohammed and Charlemagne.
So to would our civilization flourish without a parasitic class of Elites who destroy the Nation for the idols of Power and Profits.
Are you being rhetorical or facetious?
rhetorical
I should add that England really did enter a dark age with the collapse of Rome, whichhad destroyed the native economy and governance.
Life flourished with Christianization. Exactly. The alternative is indeed grim to contemplate Dr Tom.
To use Pitirim Sorokin’s words, a sensate age yielded to a ideate age. Roman Civilization ran out of rich neighbors it could conquer, and its underlying religious viewpoint was unable to sustain it. The future belongs to those who show up for it, and Rome had declining birth rates.
We’ve been a sensate civilization since about 1500, and It has worked wonders in material plenty. The fact is that no Westernized population is replacing itself: it’s future isn’t showing up. Mormons, Trad Catholics, Orthodox Jews, Amish might well own the future, as they’re the groups showing up for it.
Them, and millions of immigrants to the USA.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=XJ&most_recent_year_desc=true
Countries like Argentina are still around 2.3 births per woman, while US is around 1.7
It’s interesting to see the decline for pretty much all countries since 1960
Interesting also, in terms of the widespread paranoia on the matter, that Muslim birthrates are falling too, except where women are oppressed and uneducated:
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/11/muslim-overpopulation-myth/545318/
For exactly the same reasons that they plummet elsewhere – the negative correlation between birth rates and (a) prosperity and (b) number of years of education.
If you want to increase the birth rate among your own people, go Taliban and take your daughters out of school.
It’s amazing how few know about the influence of Christianity on Western Civilization. Why do I have the feeling that its influence in the next dark age would not be nearly so beneficial? However, there will have to be something to unify and it won’t be either the Democrat or Republican parties.
Race and Culture.
I wonder is the barbarian migrations consisted of people who did the jobs “Romans didn’t want to do”. Like soldiering,perhaps?
RIB, maybe that’s why the left is for unfettered immigration, to fight the civil war for them.
In the later Roman Empire, many of the legions consisted of non-Roman soldiers
“The adoption by the 4th-century army of barbarian (especially Germanic) dress, customs and culture, suggesting enhanced barbarian influence. For example, Roman army units adopted mock barbarian names e.g. Cornuti = “horned ones”, a reference to the German custom of attaching horns to their helmets, and the barritus, a German warcry. Long hair became fashionable, especially in the palatini regiments, where barbarian-born recruits were numerous.[195]”
from Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Roman_army#Recruitment
How about Ghengis Kahn, when did he show up?
His cavalry, millions strong and armed with those deadly short bows, must’ve been a wet blanket thrown over any european festivities.
I know he only got as far as Hungary, but still …
Brh
It was reported on this AM that guards had not been doing the mandated 30 minute safety checks on Epstein the days just prior and during the day he was found dead.
I’ve worked in similar environments, and staff not performing safety checks is highly irregular. At the minimum, it’s negligent behavior which you would have been disciplined for– and what makes everyday negligent behavior implausible in this case was the high profile of the dead man.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-checked-for-hours-apparent-suicide
correction there.. safety checks had not been performed for “hours before death”.. which is still negligent behavior. Furthermore, his cell mate had been removed Friday.
If Epstein was suicidal, he was given the opportunity with these actions by the prison. So, it’d be interesting to find out what the FBI interviews of the staff would reveal, if anything.
Interesting perspective. I found the removal of the cell mate to be the most interesting part of the story. Hear no evil, see no evil. These irregularities only serve to feed the out of control rumor mills. Is this perhaps the desired outcome?
Ann Coulter believed the arrest of Epstein in New York was not a serious attempt at prosecution, but to see whether it could be tied (in some of the public’s minds) to Donald Trump, through his pick of Labor Secretary.
They couldn’t make any stronger connection, although they tried.
Right now it’s being spread around the internet that Donald Trump had Epstein killed, so you can see that the death benefitted more than a few people.
Yes and I believe you will see an amazing amount of energy expended by the media, the late night comedy shows, and any Hollywood celebrity willing to make it to the cameras to pin anything and everything surrounding this case to DJT. Russiagate didn’t work so maybe an Epsteingate will? Typically nothing sticks to Teflon Don though so we will see. I think since there are already so many very mainstream doubts about the official narrative that it will be difficult to isolate all of the blame to him but I guess we will see.
I’m pro-Trump. But even I am wondering: if Trump and Barr wanted Epstein to live, why were they so negligent and lackadaisical about his safety? They are not stupid and naive.men.
Of course, I could start a conspiracy theory. Epstein did not die, but Trump & company want everyone to think that he did. At a later date they will pull him out of hiding to testify. This is a more satisfying variant on the ‘living happily ever after in Israel theory’. We want him to testify, not enjoy a long carefree retirement.
When Acosta was being vetted for the Labor Secretary job he was asked if his decision on the Epstein matter would be a problem and Acosta said, “I was told not to be concerned about Epstein because he belonged to Intelligence.”
When Acosta was asked recently to elucidate on that he said, “No comment.”
I can’t help but wonder if anyone in Congress investigating Epstein’s untimely death (cough) will ask about what exactly Intelligence was up to with Epstein. Because we know for sure no one in the FBI will go there.
Arkancide
Never before have we seen a piece of official ‘news’ so instantly and widely disbelieved, as the alleged ‘suicide’ of Jeffrey Epstein in USA federal custody … ZeroHedge even ballyhooing how fake and impossible it is
The connections of US Attorney General William Barr and his father to Epstein are remarkable … Barr and his father both having been CIA-intel agency officers too
Bill Barr’s father Donald Barr, was born Jewish & converted to Roman Catholicisim. Don Barr worked for the CIA predecessor OSS during WW2, then became a school headmaster … who hired Jeffrey Epstein for his first job, to teach teen boys & girls at the posh NYC Dalton School, 1973-75
Donald Barr, it turns out, was fascinated by sexual enslavement as much as Jeffrey Epstein, and at the same time Barr hired Epstein, he published a fantasy novel about such eros slavery, ‘Space Relations’, still available on the web
Also during that same time, Don Barr’s son, young William Barr, was a CIA officer, 1973-77, the CIA supporting Bill Barr whilst he went to night law school, Barr working under George H W Bush toward the end of that time
When not in government helping out the CIA – including when Bill Barr became Attorney General for his CIA boss, George HW Bush during 1991-93, Bill Barr worked for the Kirland & Ellis law firm … one of the clients of which, was Jeffrey Epstein
Gordon Duff of Veterans Today, says flat-out that, with the Epstein blackmail files in the hands of Ghislaine Maxwell, the daughter of ‘Israeli super-spy Robert Maxwell’, that the “massive blackmail files … more than 2000 names … [including] on Trump, led Attorney General William Barr, working with his lifelong partners at the CIA and Israeli intelligence, to get Epstein to safety” ,,, Jeffrey landing in Tel Aviv, the Epstein ‘suicide’ having been cover for a ‘Mossad jailbreak’ run by the intel boys
The distinguished anti-Semites of the Kunstler blog just got a reinforcement.
No reinforcement, he seems to have just laid out some facts, and trusts each to come to their own conclusions? Am I wrong?
The key “fact” in his timeline is false. Donald Barr was not even at the school when Epstein came on board. The entire post is based off of talking points from the “Daily Beast.” And we all know the “Daily Beast” would never lie to us.
Even if Don Barr had left the school, it shows that both Epstein and the Barr family were neck deep in the same exclusive, elitist club. They were brothers in arms against all us unwashed deplorable useless eaters.
To implicate a government in actions that serve their interests, is in no way anti-Semitic.
By using that term in your comment, shows the weakness of your argument.
Had Brabantian said all those F*(king J&*s in Israel are responsible and must held accountable for this, I would agree with your comment.
IMHO, the leadership of Israel is not, and has never acted in the best interest of the “Jewish” Semitic people. The leadership of Israel, is not moral, just or deserving of any respect.
Criticizing them is NOT anti Semitic.
The ideological kitchen of Hillary Clinton is working overtime generating all sorts of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories regarding Epstein’s “suicide”, influencing all kinds of people as a red rag waved in front of a bull’s nose.
No wander, Hillary is an old “mortal friend” of Israel, since the Oslo agreements.
Would that be the same anti-Semitic Hillary who married off her only child to a Jew?
I hope you all know that the “birther” conspiracy against President Obama was cooked up in the same Hillary’s kitchen and forced on Donald Trump to spread under the threat of hurting his real estate business in New York.
Sorry though. He was a Kenyan. That is how he saw himself whether it was official or not. Home is where the Heart is.
Link?
DrTS,
Here’s a starter:
https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Obama-file-with-exhibits-watermark.pdf
Make of it what you will.
Really? I thought it was one of Roger Ailes’ nasty little plots.
“The Loudest Voice”
Actually Mr. Fincaln is correct. during the Dem Primaries in 2008 the Hillary campaign was the first to bring up Obama’s eligibility to be President due to questions over where he was born. They didn’t push it too hard and let it go pretty quickly. McCain was encouraged by some to use it in the general election against Obama, but he declined.
Just like criticizing blacks is not racist? Try to get away with that one
A very appropriate and important point! They create “untouchables” to punish us, and many of us fall for it. But not anymore!
Nice. Thanks for the sitrep. Appreciated.
RA
Interesting info! I found it incomprehensible how AG Barr could be so incompetent in protecting and surveiling the jailed Epstein. Let’s see how quickly they cremate “the body”.
Jews are rarely cremated and he should have been buried by sunset yesterday or today at the latest.
Not sure if his body will be released to his brother Mark for burial?
Now that Baden is in on the caper with the autopsy (hired by Epstein’s lawyers) plus considering toxicology results take four to six weeks to come back, the quick report the MSM need may be slow coming.
If he was given “a noose on a bun” for his meals it might have caused a cumulative and lethal level of poison to cause renal failure etc.
At any rate, if he IS dead, it looks like they might want to keep him under wraps until all the tests are conclusive.
I’m not sure Epstein and family are very observant of Orthodox Jewish burial practices.
…Jeffrey landing in Tel Aviv…
Completely possible.
…Jeffrey landing in the City of London is even more plausible…
Name me Israeli politicians implicated in the pedofhile sect.
Former Israeli PM Ehud Barack. Though he says he never met any girls. Did he meet boys?
Israeli Politician Ehud Barak Often Crashed at Epstein Apartment Building, Neighbors Say Residents of a building owned by Jeffrey Epstein’s brother say the former Israeli prime minister was a frequent guest when he was in New York.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-israeli-politician-ehud-barak-often-crashed-at-his-manhattan-apartment-neighbors-say
Israel’s Ehud Barak: I Visited Epstein’s Island But Never Met Any Girls
https://www.thedailybeast.com/israels-ehud-barak-i-visited-epsteins-island-but-never-…
I clicked on the Daily Beast article and it is already gone!!!!!
And they revile us as “conspiracy theorists” just because we notice the cover-ups, the lies, the censorship, and all the MSM bull shit!
If they were better at this then we wouldn’t have any “conspiracies” to discuss. I only wonder though if they actually want all of the conspiracies flying around? After all, it helps them since there is no truth that will be known. It’s just as bad as having no information at all really.
SSL, I think the globalist elite are the authors of some conspiracy theories. They love to sew confusion, dissension, and watch us chasing our tails around like crazed canines! (No offense K-Dog.)
The challenge is separating the wheat from the chaff.
I think you’re probably right about that. While we are all busy looking for clues they are busy executing their schemes. They are getting very bold though and once they take our guns away they will be able to do everything right out in the open and not be challenged.
Maybe that link is faulty…here it is:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-israeli-politician-ehud-barak-often-crashed-at-his-manhattan-apartment-neighbors-say
..and the second one failed too:
try https://www.thedailybeast.com/israels-ehud-barak-i-visited-epsteins-island-but-never-met-any-girls
None taken.
Yet.
One of my favorite Dershowitz story’s from the blonde sex slave Guiffre was when she was 14 and was ordered to give Dershowitz a BJ in the back of the limo while Epstein and Ghislaine watched. This took place on the way to Dershowtz’house in Massachusetts. To the home where presumably his wife was waiting to have “great sex” as Dershowitz claims they do. A lot!
Bravo. He walked right into that one. The arrogance of underestimating one’s opponent.
Very interesting post. At the end of it all these people are all connected by family relationships, schools and social circles. There is no way to get around it. Therefore the self interests cannot be discounted and neither can the lengths they would go to, to keep bad publicity and exposure at bay. The sad reality is that we will really never know what happened and 50 years from now some people will believe that Epstein lived out the rest of his years lounging on a beach outside the InterContinental David Tel Aviv.
You really didn’t need to open your mouth for us to know what you were going to say.
Oh is that the case??!! I didn’t say it was true or real. I suggested that we would never really know the truth so people will fill in the gaps for themselves.
Neither do you, Fin. Leave SSL alone you big bully. You want a second opinion? OK you’re crazy, too!
hehe tank you!!!
SSL is right in stating that we can never know the truth, which is a damned shame. I do believe she realizes that the absolute ultimate danger that Mr. Epstein posed once incarcerated made killing him off the only logical way for them to go. Much too dangerous to bail him out and hide him somewhere, dead is safest.
Yes I think its abundantly clear that Epstein needed to disappear for the sakes of many big and important people. There was no way he was going to live to tell the tale. Now that could be figurative or literal at this point but who could know that other than those directly involved?
We’ll probably never know, but it’s possible. High level agents must have absolute loyalty. And at that level, that means being loyal to them as well. Some have said that a body double may have been used for the corpse. Jeff may already being enjoying the famed brothels of Tel Aviv, plush with girls trafficked from Russia and Eastern Europe.
In any case, believing in Conspiracies is eminently rational since that is the way the world works. The Founding Fathers were Conspirators after all. Conspiracy Theories are variable, some good and many bad. The Bad flourish since there is now way to prove or disprove except the test of commonsense and internal consistency. Dismissing all Conspiracy Theory and thus Conspiracy itself is just plain silly.
Hillary called rumours about her failing health “conspiracy theories”, right before she collapsed in public.
I love how they try to make people feel guilty or just idiotic by labeling every little question or dismissal of official narratives as a conspiracy. They would like to make the label Conspiracy Theorist as scary and life altering as Racist. They are very expert at manipulating language and communication for their benefit.
Things are much easier for them now since Obama legalized domestic propaganda right before he left office.
This act paved the way for “accountability journalism,” also known as lying.
Did he now? I was unaware! Was that a law that was passed or some sort of new regulation?
Look up Obama and the Smith-Mundt Act. One of his last actions in office was to legalize domestic propaganda.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/planting-stories-in-the-press-lifting-of-us-propaganda-ban-gives-new-meaning-to-old-song/237493/
Anyone who dismisses conspiracy theories is hopefully naive. Of course there are conspiracies.
ZeroHedge even ballyhooing how fake and impossible it is
Is Zerohedge mainstream? Why would you expect otherwise from them?
Anyone who believes Epstein committed suicide would probably believe John F Kennedy blew his own brains out.
You have all the answers? Awesome! Was the first alleged suicide also a bona fide suicide? Or was that all faked?
Well it does seem a bit outrageous no? There are so many strange things surrounding it all I don’t blame anyone for conjecture.
It’s both outrageous and suspicious. But it seems more likely that someone helped him commit suicide. Assisted suicide.
For it to be murder (against his will), one would have to explain what that first attempt was all about. It never happened? It was a botched murder attempt? He wanted to die the first time but not the second?
Correct me if I’m wrong. But the first attempt was never fully explained to the public. Many questions were left unanswered
I suspect this Epstein death story will very quickly fade away; and we’ll never have some very pertinent questions answered. The MSM, the yapping lapdogs of the deep state, will never speak of this again.
No wander – Finc
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I guess I shouldn’t say hahaha since English isn’t Finc’s first language.
But the first attempt was never fully explained to the public. Many questions were left unanswered – hmuller
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What needs explanation? There were marks on his neck. He tried to strangle himself. Duh!
Rumor has it that Epstein told people that in the first incident he was attacked by someone and called a pedo, a not unlikely occurrence.
“Someone” ? Couldn’t the jail authorities narrow that down a little more?
My favorite part is that the cameras also happened to malfunction.
That could be the case. Unfortunately we have to gossip because there isn’t anything else to go on. Maybe it was assisted suicide?
Yes that first alleged suicide is my “reasonable doubt” that the second was murder.
It’s hard to choke oneself to death with one’s bare hands. Because once you are unconscious the chocking stops and one will probably recover. See the problem?
I’m still waiting for them to tell us about the Las Vegas shooter. If he had been a White Nationalist they would have told us, right? So that can be ruled out. They never denied ISIS taking responsibility either. There were also rumors that his Filipino girlfriend had Federal connections. His choice of target was very interesting – Red State Americans.
The whole thing wasn’t gracefully dropped down the memory hold but rather thrown like a fast ball.
And wasn’t Saudi ruling Prince Mohammed bin Salman in Las Vegas at the time? Odd coincidence?
Wait a minute. I thought the girlfriend was cleared by the FBI before the spoke with her.
A lot of luggage to get up into a hotel room with nobody noticing.
I thought hotel workers gossiped about the guests’ doings, especially someone showing up with a conspicuous amount of stuff.
And of course one of the more widely circulated rumors about that case is that it does tie back to ISIS and thus the very reason that no additional information has really been released about the incident. We wouldn’t want to generate any more anti-Muslim sentiment in this already hopelessly racist society now would we? Islam is definitely a religion of peace and all.
He had two suicides?
Yes if we believe the official narrative, there was a failed suicide attempt, followed by a successful one. The first one casts doubt on the second one being murder.
You believe the first time he tried to choke himself to death?
Nope! I’m saying that IF we believe it was a suicide attempt, THEN it creates doubt that the second attempt was murder.
My turn. If the first attempt was a murder attempt and not a suicide attempt, then why would Epstein remain silent about it? He talked with prison officials, psychiatrists, his legal team, etc. Why not mention, “OMG! Someone tried to kill me!”? Are you suggesting everyone is in on this? His lawyer? The chief psychologist? Everyone?
Excsot,
I’m just trying to find the answers in a world where I’m not so sure the media always tells us the truth. Here is what Fox news is saying in a story published today
Link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-timeline-death
“JULY 23 — FIRST POSSIBLE SUICIDE ATTEMPT
Epstein is found nearly unconscious in his jail cell with injuries to his neck, law enforcement sources told the New York Post at the time. It was unclear whether the injuries were self-inflicted, either as the result of a legitimate suicide attempt or a cry for help, or if Epstein had been assaulted by another inmate. Though officials reportedly believed the incident to be a suicide attempt, they could not rule out a potential attack.
Epstein is not transferred to a hospital and remains at the correctional center, Politico reported at the time.”
Somebody explain to me why it’s unclear if the injuries are self inflicted or the result of an inmate assault. Did they let the inmates wander unsupervised and unobserved in and out of Epstein’s cell, so that anybody could attack Epstein at any time? No guards around to see anything. This makes no sense to me.
Admittedly, all I know about prison I learned by watching “Orange is the New Black”. And perhaps a women’s minimum security facility is very different. Mostly, I watched it in hopes of a soapy shower fight scene. But I digress.
Continuing on. Maybe the Fox story is implying that Epstein’s cellmate, the muscle bound bad cop Tartaglione tried to choke him to death. My question – why couldn’t the jail authorities determine whether or not that was the case?
Tartaglione’s lawyer of course paints him as the hero who saved Epstein from committing suicide. Yeah well, consider the source.
I have no idea what Epstein said to his lawyers or the prison psychiatrist or the prison staff or anyone else. If you know, please share.
>>> I have no idea what Epstein said to his lawyers or the prison psychiatrist or the prison staff or anyone else. If you know, please share.
No one knows! And that’s what’s fueling conspiracy theories. What was Epstein’s explanation for what happened? Seriously, can we stop the Trump bashing and whites… bad! long enough to get some straightforward answers to some very basic questions? We promise you can return to your Russian conspiracy impeach Trump white supremacist viral epidemic plague whatever just as soon as you do your damn jobs and give us some answers. Damn the media sucks.
Watch and see what happens to Epstein’s accomplices, like Sarah Kellen and Ghislaine Maxwell, amongst others. They all must be in real fear for their lives at this point.
What kind of mysterious fate awaits them? hmmm
On a certain level you kinda want them to be for what they allegedly did right? But will they truly pay a price for what they did? Not likely at the hands of those they abused but I could be very wrong. More likely as you sort of imply here, they will be disappeared by those who just want to cover up what they have done.
If I transfer $1,000,000 to your account will you bring me a few pieces of nylon?
Money … no way…How about,
A stranger some how ends up in Epstein’s block.
Walks over to guard and says to the guard, “Hey there, look at my phone, I see you have a few children.”
Shows him live video of his kids sleeping.
“You want to see them again? Leave me with Jeff alone for 15.”
“Thanks”
Very plausible, taking loved ones hostages is a time-honored tradition of the Black Project Hillary is heading.
Prison officials were not unaware that the world was watching and that they’d better get this one right. Yet – everyone went out for a beer at the same time? Oh yeah – and we discovered that some janitor left the lens cover on the observation camera that night.
The Deep State’s narrative management strategy: Day 1: “Apparent suicide.” (no details) Day 2: “Suicide” (no explanation) Day 3: “Any other narrative is a conspiracy theory.”
As Sherlock Holmes observed, “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” Former inmates who know that cell better than any journalist have made it clear that Epstein could not possibly have committed suicide in there.
With that possibility eliminated, the only explanation that does not insult our intelligence is assassination. Epstein was in a position to demolish the lives of a significant number of the world’s most powerful men. Any one of them is in a position to bring immense money and political clout to bear upon this problem and has agents whose job is to manage such things.
The official narrative is as half-assed and insulting as the 911 story. Let them begin by explaining in complete detail, the means by which Epstein managed to kill himself. If it was poison, we may never know whether he bribed people to bring it in or if it was Mossad or some other agent, but at least the story won’t blow up our bullshit detectors.
The official narrative is as half-assed and insulting as the 911 story
You are mistaken, my friend. It is hundreds of times more half-assed and insulting.
Something really went wrong.
“Something really went wrong.”
Kameraden Finc!
Sooo…Russia’s new wonder weapons are battle ready? Putin seems to be rattling sabers just as did Messrs. Hitler and Co. regarding new weapons that would turn the tide of history.
Consider the unfortunate test results of the “petrel”, or as NATO calls it “Skyfall”, or as we have described it “flying Chernobyl”. Atomic rocket engines…a failure of the new Post-Soviet-Man, perhaps?
Or, as Russians are fond of believing, wreckers and sabotage?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49319160
At the beginning of the Epstein’s “suicide” panic in mass-Media, the pro-Clinton media let slip that 7 years ago, Epstein was blacklisted in all Trump casinos and stopped being allowed to go there after he attacked an underage girl in one of the casinos.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/10/trump-retweets-epstein-conspiracy-theories-1456305
And they indirectly confirmed the reports of anti-Clinton bloggers that the first case of Epstein, as a result of which the latter became a registered pedophile, having served 13 months in prison, was initiated by Trump precisely after this incident, and Trump made quite significant efforts and contributed no less significant funds.
And I will add to this the artistic truth, based on stylistic analysis and very, very indirect signs that this youngster, who was attacked by Epstein, was a relative of Trump and this incident occurred after Trump refused to participate in the outrages ala Eyes Wide Shut
Norway mosque attack suspect ‘inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings’
Online posts by Philip Manshaus praising other white extremist attacks emerge
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/11/norway-mosque-attack-suspect-may-have-been-inspired-by-christchurch-and-el-paso-shootings
“The suspected gunman in an attack on a mosque in Norway on Saturday was inspired by recent white extremist attacks in New Zealand and the US, online posts suggest.
“Police in Norway have so far only said the attack in Baerum, a town 20km from Oslo, the capital, will be investigated as a possible act of terrorism.
“In messages posted on the day of the attack, Philip Manshaus, a 21-year-old man who has been named by local media as the main suspect, described himself as ‘chosen’ by ‘Saint [Brenton] Tarrant’, the gunman who killed 51 people at mosques in New Zealand in March.
“‘My time is up, I was chosen by Saint Tarrant after all … We can’t let this continue, you gotta bump the race war threat in real life … it’s been fun,’ one post reads.
“In a meme also posted by Manshaus, three rightwing extremists suspected of being responsible for other attacks this year are depicted and praised as heroes of the white nationalist movement.
“Tarrant is described as having ‘addressed the Muslim problem’ while Patrick Crusius, who has been charged with the attack in El Paso, Texas, in which 22 people died, is praised for ‘fighting to reclaim his country’.
“A third attacker suspected of killing a woman during a Passover celebration at a synagogue in California in April is also praised, alongside antisemitic abuse.
“The evidence of posts supporting the actions of the three suspects will fuel fears that a ‘cascade’ of rightwing extremist attacks is gathering supporters around the world.”
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There are other currents taking place in the ongoing deterioration, not just the Airborne Toxic Event that is (was) Jeffrey Epstein. It’s increasingly clear that the propaganda of the deed has taken hold on the far right, and keeps racking up scores. We can thank our lucky stars that this particular übermensch only managed to injure one person, a fearsome 75-year-old man at worship, but killed no one. But he sure cited all the obvious precedents for his act of terror.
When will you acknowledge all the crimes, rapes, and murders perpetrated by the recent Mid-Eastern and African refugees flooding into Scandinavia?
I’m certainly not excusing any crimes. But you make it sound like all this happened out of the blue and unprovoked. Those parasitic people are destroying European culture and the standard of living, without so much as a “thank you for all the welfare”. No, they show their gratitude by harassing women, raping little boys,vandalizing cars, etc
Crime morphs seamlessly into War, does it not? Be it in Mexico or now in Europe. Or soon perhaps into the United States. Maybe it’s time to review your Theory of Just War? Unless you are a pacifist and don’t have one.
Surely the Tree is thirsty for the Blood of Tyrants and Patriots, don’t you think? The Left has never taken an oath of Pacifism, has it? You’d never know that from Elrond’s superior attitude of course.
I have a friend living in Norway. He has to attend classes with immigrants.
He says the immigrants hate the Norwegians, and the Norwegians hate them right back.
He also says Oslo has a housing shortage.
So why keep importing more and more people?
Cheap labor to care for aging native population? Because their socialism isn’t really solvent? And they can’t afford to pay fair market value for “shit jobs”?
>>> Cheap labor to care for aging native population? Because their socialism isn’t really solvent? And they can’t afford to pay fair market value for “shit jobs”?
Probably not. Actually, Norway compares very FAVORABLY to the USA, as I think you’ll agree. JDH
“When it comes to quality of life, there are few countries that can supersede America in terms of luxury, comfort and overall well-being. Not even Canada or Britain exceeds the United States in quality of life. However, Norway, an oil-rich country situated in the Scandinavian Peninsula, undeniably outstrips the American standard of living.
The United States has a lower per capita GDP than Norway with a GDP of 51,749 compared to 99,558, respectively, and is also home to one of the most pressing income distribution gaps in any industrialized nation, surpassed in income inequality by only Russia and Mexico.
Due to America’s cavernous income inequality, the poorest 38% of Norwegians are better off than the poorest 38% of Americans despite an overall lower average per capita GDP. According to Syracuse University professor Timothy Smeeding, the United States relies heavily on the markets to an extent that social safety nets are neglected, unlike Norway, which focuses more resources on providing aid to the poor.
This is not to say that America completely disregards its poor. To clarify, the United States has initiated its portion of socially-oriented acts, such as its attempt to reform the welfare system during the past two decades.
However, while the number of individuals on welfare was reduced from 5 million to slightly over 2 million, the welfare poor were downgraded into the working poor. Although welfare reform was rooted in good intentions, the lack of government safety nets defeated the purpose of the entire act.
Although the discovery of oil on the land in 1969 had transformed Norway, more than just an abundance of the valued natural resource buttresses Norway’s economy. Norway’s success has been attributed to what many call the “Norwegian Model”– a model of running a welfare state in which resources are carefully monitored, preserved and kept up-to-date.
While the United States ranks among one of the wealthiest nations in the world, it has stayed remiss in establishing social safety nets, particularly for the less economically-advantaged subsection of the population. Due to the lack of social safety nets, America hosts one of the largest global income inequality gaps, and is ultimately surpassed by the tiny welfare state of Norway in terms of quality of life.”
“It’s money that matters in the USA!”
>>> Due to the lack of social safety nets, America hosts one of the largest global income inequality gaps,
You’re conflating two very different concepts. America has myriad social safety nets, from Social Security and Medicare to Medicaid, SNAP and HUD. Not to mention a progressive tax.
So to claim that “the lack of social safety nets” leads to “income inequality” just doesn’t compute. Frankly, it wouldn’t even make sense if we didn’t have social safety nets.
Income equality arises from the fact that labor markets don’t value all jobs as being equal in worth. It’s not something that requires “solving”—anymore than gaps in intelligence, beauty, or athleticism requires solving. Embrace the diversity. That includes diverse incomes.
As for Norway’s success, I’d attribute it less to socialism, and more to Norway’s racial and cultural homogeneity. It is surely easier to govern when there’s a shared culture, and race issues don’t consume all available bandwidth.
They want to replace White People. Period. Making everything into Economics is simply idiotic. And wrong since the immigrants are net takers not producers.
LOL I see you are still struggling mightily with your inner White Nationalist. You even view those you have disdain for as ubermensch! With everything going on in the world and this is what you post? Stop it already! It is time to embrace that which you love and obsess over. Stop fighting it.
I wish they could gather up all those refugees in Scandinavia and send them to live in Elrond’s hometown. Poetic justice.
“It was them! The refugees made me do it! The migrants made me do it! The n-words made me do it! The Jews made me do it!”
Motive for the crime, baby.
So you aren’t saying we can’t bring them to your house I notice….
Me: *does a sarcasm*
SoftStarLight: *whoosh*
Wow I just never thought you would use the language of the wicked that’s all.
Good concept or meme. A very useful approach.
Last I checked, the copycat effect is not limited to the “far right”.
Meanwhile, let’s look at some other “patterned” crimes that happened in the same time frame…
Car Bomb Kills 3 U.N. Staff Members Outside a Benghazi Mall
Student found stabbed to death in West Bank terror attack; manhunt launched
Germany: Iraqi migrant arrested for attempted rape of a 13-year-old girl at swimming pool
To paraphrase Elrond, it’s increasingly clear that the propaganda of previous deeds by Muslims and migrants keeps racking up scores as well.
Exscotticus, even though you linked to the Wikipedia article, you seem unclear on the concept of ‘copycat’.
Regarding the current string of right-wing terror attacks, there’s a clear and well-documented trail of evidence whereby each of these pieces of shit posts online, citing their predecessors by name, praising their actions, and vowing to emulate them, which they then proceed to do.
– The article I posted above lists the predecessors that the alleged Norway mosque shooter wanted to emulate.
– 27 minutes before the El Paso terror attack, the alleged shooter posted a message on 8chan expressing support for and inspiration by the Christchurch mosque massacre.
– When the Poway/San Diego synagogue terror attack occurred (remember that one? Amazing how they all blur together), once again the shooter preceded the attack with an online posting which specifically cited both the infamous Christchurch massacre and a previous shooting at a synagogue in Pittsburgh.
Need I go on? This is the very definition of ‘copycat crime’ and the pattern is happening now, in real time. Do you have the honesty to admit that? Or have you already stopped reading this post, because you lack the guts to face how wrong you are?
Each of the crimes you linked to is quite heinous. But without even reading past the headlines, I will bet you real money there is no such link between them. Guilt by association (the alleged perpetrators all being Muslim) is not evidence. Demonstrate that each one modelled their behaviour on the one previous, as the right-wing terrorists have done, or slink away.
Yes, you are not here to debate and review evidence. You are here to be RIGHT.
I 2nd that.
Bravo. On a roll!
High fives :-)!!!!
Elrond, what is your point? That right wing white people are violent and dangerous?
If I gathered last week’s 100 most egregious crimes by people of color against white people, would it change you view of the world.
Not a bit, I’m sure.
So why do you bombard us with these news clips? Are we supposed to feel guilty about crimes by someone who happens to be white? Or are you signalling your moral superiority as a white person, wracked with guilt and shame?
You are beginning to resemble a Green Alba copycat. Proving the correctness of a worldview and life philosophy via a few news clips.
Guess what. There are news clips to support every philosophy and prove every point.
Oh come on, Green makes salient points on a fairly regular basis, while Elrond is our in-house NPC. There is no comparison.
The following story took place in Germany in late July when an Eritrean guest of the German people shoved an 8 year old boy to his death in front of a train.
And you know what, Elrond? I don’t give a pig’s anus whether the man acted in a “copycat manner” or was the greatest example of “original Muslim thinking”.
“A child has died after a man pushed him and his mother in front on an incoming high-speed train at Frankfurt’s main station, police said.
Witnesses reportedly saw a man dressed in dark clothes shove the pair onto the tracks as an InterCity Express train pulled into the station in the German city on Monday morning.
The mother, 40, was able to pull herself away from the train but her eight-year-old son was hit and suffered fatal injuries, police spokeswoman Isabell Neumann said.
The 40-year-old suspect, who is Eritrean, then apparently tried unsuccessfully to push another person onto the track.
He fled the scene with passers-by in pursuit and was arrested near the station.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-child-pushed-train-killed-dies-platform-frankfurt-station-a9025271.html
Nightowl, you are correct and I expect to get a terrible Scotish flogging later for my hasty and ill-considered comparison. But she has in the past battered me with news clippings (as if that’s ever going to change my mind, LOL).
No, you come on Night Towel. She is Grundy, a School Marm. But yes, it seems more natural because it is a feminine role. Elrond is a male school marm. How horrible is that?
They both cherry pick stats and info to sustain the same grotesque narrative. These two could finish each other’s sentences. It’s a matter of style as I said above. He grates more….
Tell it to someone who cares, Oberfeldwebel.
Whooo, Elrond, dude, you are WIDE AWOKE!!!
>>> But without even reading past the headlines, I will bet you real money there is no such link between them.
I didn’t claim these three crimes are linked to each other. I didn’t claim that they’re “copycat crimes”. I claimed—and it’s right there in black and white—that these are other examples of “patterned” crimes. This is broader category that subsumes copycat crimes.
But your claim that Islamic terrorst attacks don’t qualify as copycat crimes seems to be at odds with the term’s usage. For example…
Isis celebration over the London attack is a dance of defeat
It is possible Khalid Masood, the 52-year-old who killed four in London last week, was responding directly to Adnani’s call, perhaps relayed through social media. It is equally likely he was inspired by the example of earlier attacks. The “copycat effect” in terrorism is powerful.
You see, Elrond, when Muslims reads about other Muslims who are praised as heroes of Islam for blowing shit up, it encourages more of the same. Or did you think the common Islamoterrorist cry of “Alluhu Akbar!” was just some strange coincidence?
I agree, ExScot. But since the MSM does not label Muslim crimes as “copy cat”, Elrond will claim they are not until hell freezes over. Sure, hundreds of Muslims all got the idea independently to strap on explosives and become suicide bombers – no copy catting there.
Just as by definition there can never be a hate crime by people of color against whites. The MSM will never label it that way, hence the Elronds of the world will deny the existence of such crimes. They are no more possible than ‘dry water’..
With the ability to destroy the elite here and abroad (even Wokesters have yet to add a P for Pedophile to their LGBTQ alphabet soup), Jeffrey Epstein was the most dangerous man on earth. Now he’s dead under highly unusual circumstances. Draw your own conclusions.
My high octane speculation is that it was “arranged” for the prison to be “incompetent”. This is all just too convenient.
So no one really had to murder him and make it look like a suicide. Just arrange to give him the means to actually do it himself. The prison will take the heat, but the pre-arranged agreement was to insure no one at the prison gets reprimanded too heavily. More of a “tsk tsk, that was really bad guys. Shame on you!” Then maybe firing one or two people and having the prison operate with “great extra regulatory oversight” until this all blows over.
Pass him something that puts him into a deep sleep. Lean on the Prison Doctor to declare him dead. Exchange bodies at the morgue or en route. Get Jeff on the plane. Have his slippers and robe ready as well as nubiles. Jeff may not be able to wait until landing in Tel Aviv. It’s been a week or two after all.
It’s bad for us but good for them. Keeps up morale. Our Credit is their Debit. The Goyim duped again!
Busy schedule of cosmetic surgeries for Epstein in the coming months. The ‘corpse’ we saw on the gurney was in all likelihood a meticulously reproduced dummy. But they forgot the pallor that a dead body would presumably have.
Update:
Latest photos show the pallor of death. FIF?
Soooooo….someone comes up to you on your way home, a total stranger. Sez, “how’s the family Joe”. “Who the hell are you?” “Joe, I need your help.” “Get outta my face dude”. “Joe, Joe, you can help me or maybe something happens to a family member. Say an accident in the subway.”
Guess where Joe works? Any rewards are cash only. Joe is owned. But, no one cares about the Jew pedophile. No one really cares about the girls. Leonard Cohen got it right with EVERYBODY KNOWS. Why give a damn?
The list of potential owners is vast.
What would you do?
Americans accept the corruption. As long as they get their share of the loot they are ok with whatever it takes to get it to them. If you think I am wrong, ask yourself the question, “Where is the outrage?” There you go, there is the proof – no outrage, only acceptance. It is the NIMBY principle, Not In My Backyard, which includes the mantra of “I only care about myself, everybody else can go to hell”. The programming is now complete, all we have to do is be patient and wait.
Or people still have to make ends meet and so their focus is on that rather than people they know are always committing crimes and getting away with murder. Sometimes you have to fight battles worth fighting for. Many have already been lost.
Outrage is way overused today. We are supposed to be outraged about any event depending on personal taste. I figure late term abortion ought to be an outrage item and popular. Nope. I think our society is too numb to really get too worked up.
Best to remember the “golden rule”. It is why Soros has so much clout.
Care and Concern are limited. Scare Resources. We only have so much. If you are driven to care about Minorities and Ilegals, you will have none left for your own People.
The Ruling Class knows this. Ordinary People don’t. They understand human nature. We don’t. And yeah, add to this the stress of making a living in a very competitive Capitalist society, and the numbness is explained. Endless crime, both actual and entertainment, complete the picture.
Yeah, the Ruling Class has been doing this for a very long time and they are well aware of human instincts and behavior. These are the same instincts and behaviors that ordinary people are taught to ignore completely, or even worse, that such instincts and behaviors are evil and must be deprogrammed.
I say, I say…..I’m plumb outraged that ‘outrage’ is way overused today!
“And you don’t believe we’re on the eve of destruction.”
“Starting all over again is gonna be rough…
We lost what we had, that’s what hurt us so bad
It set us back a thousand years”
And a symphony of destruction it will be….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfpgpf6QVnI
I’m only surprised that anyone’s surprised at how this turned out. Epstein’s death was assured the moment he was arrested. A story of malfeasance and incompetence will be trotted out and people of a suitably low rank will be scapegoated, fired/retired, and bought off and/or murdered later to remain quiet, but no one should doubt for a second what went on here. An agent of the deep state fell into the cross hairs of opposing deep state interests, who then did what deep state interests always do under such circumstances: eliminate the problem permanently.
Although I could easily be persuaded by the Mossad / plane to Israel arguments above, as well. But I think it’s more likely he’s dead, his usefulness now expired with all this publicity. One thing’s for sure, this was no routine suicide.
Excellent source of Epstein documents here, including downloadable flight logs and other stuff. This site is a treasure trove of background information in general on many topics:
https://www.coreysdigs.com/the-file-drawer/
Thank you for sharing the link Ol’ Scratch. You know, I can’t tell you how many people said something like, “He’ll be dead in no time” when Epstein went behind bars to start off with.
Whoever had August 10 in the betting pool must have cleaned up.
No doubt, right!!! I wish just once, just once, that I would have the winning numbers, or date, in this particular case :-).
Although I could easily be persuaded by the Mossad / plane to Israel arguments
Nobody doubted your persuasiveness in that department.
Nor your pro-Zionist denials, I’m sure.
Isn’t Epstein Barr a disease of some kind?
Their reach is far and wide.
I find the timing odd. Who exactly orchestrated his arrest and why?
That seems to be question of questions here. Rest assured this was no routine sting operation.
“and/or murdered later to remain quiet”
Nick O Demus,
…I am waiting for the other shoe to drop….
Yes. There will be more bodies, although I doubt we’ll hear about most of them.
Epstein possibly was a triple agent, working for the USA, Israel and Saudi Arabia (he held a Saudi passport)
He also put in humint intel work for France, Switzerland and the UK
Such people are useful, and valuable
The man got around
Im wondering where his $550 million came from tho, considering nobody ever saw him work at any job.
Brh
They are beta testing new ideas every day. Once they hit on something mildly acceptable the story will disappear outside of talk of online “conspiracy theorists.”
8/10/2019 “…the day the music died.” – Don McClean
But wait! The levee isn’t dry yet!
I always thought Seth was killed not for what he had already leaked, but because after the wikileaks came out, and Seth was pinpointed as the likely source, someone knew exactly what he could still put out there.
The “authorities” had so much trouble calling this a homicide.
When there has been no robbery, as in nothing was taken, there is never a justification for calling it such.
Mr. Barr was shocked, shocked I tell you, upon learning of Epstein’s demise.
Why was he so shocked?
Noted psychic Ann Coulter had already issued an alert:
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1154256310457786368
You remember Ann, she’s the one they wouldn’t allow to speak at UC Berkeley, because of “safety”. But who was the head of that university system, and what was her job before that?
Anyway, they couldn’t guarantee that a college professor might take umbrage and start hitting attendees with a bicycle lock, so Annie was cancelled.
JN?
Several people responding to the tweet actually called it exactly as it happened too. A surveillance malfunction/mishap would occur, etc.,
Yes that pattern being that the seemingly impossible occurs and there is, naturally, no way for anyone to verify the ridiculous story Fake News puts out.
People are saying that Epstein’s death makes no difference to the prosecution of these crimes.
Even with tapes, the case needs the cooperation of the young women involved.
I believe there is a thing called “best evidence”, but I’m no lawyer.
This crime is especially heinous because the victims were not your mere “underage” victims, but very young children, really.
If you have an old tape with a thirteen year old in it, and that person is in her twenties now, you really need her testimony that yes, that’s her.
After that disingenuous, to say the least, statement from the US Attorney, in which he neglected to even say he was sorry they didn’t protect the subject so he could be brought to justice, or reassure the women that even though the entirety of the system had deliberately allowed this to occur, he was somehow going to keep them safe, I don’t see how this is going anywhere.
Epstein’s “suicide” protects the big names associated with this crime, and they are still very much out there, walking around.
They live. We sleep.
That’s ridiculous. Very young children? These were adolescents, past menarche, with secondary sexual characteristics fully developed. Physically, they were sexually mature. Technically, children are persons who haven’t sprouted body hair or grown breasts. Since these were lower class girls, as little as 50 to 60 years ago a lot of them would have already been married and mothers by the age these girls got involved with Epstein. My daughter went to high school with a married woman who was pregnant with her third child at eighteen. One of my best friends was married in our senior year. Don’t believe for a second that they didn’t see benefits accruing to them from cooperation. I’m not hearing any of them claiming forcible rape.
Pederasty, chasing teens for sex.
Where were their parents and what did they know?
I believe pederasty refers to a relationship between an adult male and an adolescent boy, which was considered natural and encouraged in ancient Greece, by the way—a sort of mentor relationship with benefits. I’m not sure what it’s called in the case of an adult male and an adolescent girl. I don’t believe there is a name for it, because it was not considered remarkable until quite recently. Women in their teens are at their most fertile. We evolved that way, so men are hard-wired to prefer them young. By the time most women these days in Western Civilization are thinking of starting a family, their fertility has dropped by a marked amount.
u r rite
“Women in their teens are at their most fertile. We evolved that way, so men are hard-wired to prefer them young. By the time most women these days”
Women reach maximum fertility, on average, around 21:
https://institutomarques.com/en/news/news-2017/the-5-stages-of-womens-fertile-life/
The most fertile period is 21-28, with fertility starting to decline around 30/32.
And childbirth itself isn’t ideal for teenagers, from a physiological point of view, just because they’re capable of becoming pregnant.
So we’ll have to find another reason than evolutionary advantage for men fancying 15-year-old girls.
Green Alba, there wasn’t even an abstract. That’s not a scientific study, and I know the difference. That link led to an institution geared to assist women with reproductive issues. I’d want to see the hard data rather than some comforting blah, blah, blah geared to sooth anxious and not very knowledgeable women.
draupnir
I don’t imagine Wikipedia has any vested interest, and they say female fertility peaks in the early and mid-20s. Most of the information available online generally concentrates on the other end of the spectrum, for obvious reasons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_and_female_fertility
But it’s not worth getting into a deep debate about.
It was an experienced district nurse (and neighbour/friend) who told me, when I was having my first at age 28 (and had just been in a waiting room at the hospital with an 18-year-old!) that teenagers have more problems giving birth because their bodies aren’t physiologically ready to the extent they would be in their 20s.
This UN info. confirms that ‘Complications from pregnancy and childbirth are the leading cause of death among adolescent girls.
https://www.unfpa.org/adolescent-pregnancy
Further:
Adolescent pregnancy is generally not the result of a deliberate choice – these girls often have little say over decisions affecting their lives. Rather, early pregnancy is a consequence of little or no access to school, information or health care.
Just because people used to do things a particular way when girls had little real choice doesn’t mean it was the best way to do things, even from the point of view of their bodies.
draupnir, you wrote:
” I’m not sure what it’s called in the case of an adult male and an adolescent girl. I don’t believe there is a name for it,”
Where I live they call it “Statutory Rape”.
By the way, the prophet Mohammed married his wife Aisha when she was 6, but waited until she was 9 to consummate the marriage. (What a Prince!). Criticize that behavior in some places and you’ll provoke a riot.
SSl –I don’t know why you would think these girls had any sort of stable home life.
SSL
You have to wonder where the fathers of some of these girls were, and why weren’t they looking out for their daughters?
I can imagine if anybody tried to bull any Epstien bullh#t with my own sisters back in the day they would’ve been filled full of holes, my father and uncles being the protective sort.
Brh
Yes, I realize that there are many broken homes and situations and its just sad. Their are so many parents not really engaged in their kids lives for all sorts of reasons, not always directly intentional either. But the effects are just the same. And I do understand your sentiments Brh. I would never have gotten away with being away from home long enough to get into real trouble. My parents were pretty strict in that way and my dad was very protective. Of course you know how it goes. At times I really hated it and was so embarassed and this and that. But now I look back and am very thankful, appreciative and grateful. The world can be a very cruel and mean place.
Where, oh where, are the women of Hollywood?
I seem to remember, Candice Bergin, speaking in serious tones about believing “these women”, to some asshole from the MSM, regarding the Kavanaugh allegations.
Well two of those women were proven certifiably looney liars right off the bat, and the “two front doors” one had many, many holes in that tale.
Where is Candice’s outrage that these women will not get justice?
Where is the #MeToo brigade?
Bunch of Front Holes. Trump promised to sue his tormentors but of course never did. It would have looked very bad indeed. He knew he’s never win in the Court of Public Opinion, whatever the facts of the case.
The Women of Sodom live again.
#MeToo is not real. That was never about anything but political and social blackmail. When accusations are not made up completely out of thin air of course. And some accusations even when proven real don’t matter if you are one of those women that don’t really matter (i.e. don’t think right) or if the man is indispensable to the Elite.
Yes, as with the handsome Bill Clinton, the “Big Dog”. Or the oh so urbane pedophile, Roman Polanski. Or the murderous Ted Kennedy. What about Mary Jo, “Ladies”?
#metoo
Was really about getting orange man bad and if it took down some of the favorite sons it was worth it.
As you can see when it failed to get O.M.B it fizzled out.
To be fair, it started with Rose McGowan and Weinstein. The “movement” was used out of convenience to attack Trump as well, but RM always struck me as the honest sort.
The whole thing became somewhat of a joke, ofc, but it wasn’t at the start. And Weinstein was exposed, which certainly woke up a lot of the low-IQ set.
bergEn
I understand. For me its like a cabinet door that is just randomly left ajar.
“For What It’s Worth”
There’s something happening here
But what it is ain’t exactly clear
There’s a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it’s time we stop
Children, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?
There’s battle lines being drawn
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong
Young people speaking’ their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
It’s time we stop
Hey, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?
What a field day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly saying, “hooray for our side”
It’s time we stop
Hey, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away
Stills – 1967
Arkancided during the Sabbath ?
Who knows if he is really dead. Remember Enron founder Ken Lay. You can pay off anybody.
I doubt that people, like me, ordinary everyday schmucks, will EVER know the truth about what happened here …
Jefferey Epstein was the most important Federal material witness in my living memory. Any “explanation” at this point will sound like bullshit to me.
https://soundcloud.com/daniel-sullivan-505714723/little-saigon-report-144-epstein-is-dead
I think most of us feel like you do Dr. Freckles. I think I might be ready for a prescription if you have happy pills because I am tired of knowing that there are people who can do whatever they want and I am freakin afraid just to post my opinions online.
“…eliminate the problem permanently.“ —Ol Scratch
How did that work out for the Romans? Kill him and the problem goes away? People will forget?
That is the mistake of materialists who believe in violence … who think killing the body is a solution that makes the “problem” go away.
Comparing Jeffrey Epstein to Jesus Christ is a bit of a stretch. LOL
Killing a noble idea is different than killing a star witness; the former may be difficult; the latter often works. At least, it has for the mob.
“That is the mistake of materialists who believe in violence … who think killing the body is a solution that makes the “problem” go away.”
PK,
…Yeah….tell that to Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby…any serious problem revolving around Kennedy’s death soon went away…unless you think idle patter represents a problem… Life without parole is a problem…death penalty is a problem.
Continued talk of a conspiracy 60+ years after the fact is no problem….
“Having the body” is important in legal cases, both in terms of being a witness or in terms of being the body (dead). Forget the Latin. No doubt you will inform me.
Cospiracy theory or theorist, an old CIA term used to discredit and marginalize bona fide critics of the Warren Commission, sure has gone mainstream with its prolific use today. Kind of like the common usage of the Deep State.
One of the first known American conspiracy theorists was Honest Abe Lincoln, who didn’t buy Zachary Taylor’s account of an unprovoked attacked by Mexicans in Brownsville during his excursion into Mexico. President james Polk used this false flag as an excus to go to war with Mexico in 1848. Mexico’s crime: banning slavery in 1821. Well it got us California and all that gold in 1849. Can you America without Surfin USA?
One last sidenote: The man, who gave Jeffry Epsein his first job as a physics and math teacher at Dalton School, a private prep in New York City, was none other than Donald Barr, father of USAG William Barr. BTW, Jeffry did not have a college degree or teaching credentials.
Oh what a tangled web….
Good stuff!
I found it a little shocking that former senator George Mitchell has been named by the plaintiff as one of the sexual abusing buddies of Epstein. He appears to be the epitome of the squeaky clean guy.
Hey, he likes them young, what can you say?
“He appears to be the epitome of the squeaky clean guy.”
Most of them do, until they don’t viz Mark Sanford.
Our host seems certain that all those involved in the Mueller-Clinton conspiracy will face justice, but it seems to me equally likely, especially in the wake of Epstein’s convenient death, that one way or another there will be no prosecution.
That’s what it said to me too – loud and clear.
It will be either a prosecution of the Clinton with her Flying Monkeys or a nuclear war, there is simply no other alternative.
With this latest information, that AG Barr and father are closely affiliated with the tribe / CIA, I find it increasingly UNLIKELY that anyone in the Clinton’s orbit will face anything at all like justice, deserved or not..
It is unusual that AG Barr and pere are both CIA and quasi-tribe. That J. Epstein, also of the tribe, with no college diploma, worked for Don Barr at the prestigious Dalton school as a mathematics instructor. That Barr came out of nowhere to be AG AGAIN, after publically auditioning for the role. That AG Barr is head of the DOJ and the BOP while all this goes down and makes a point of articulating how “pissed-off” he is.
I know “they” say, in a scam, “you cannot layer on the BS too thickly,” but this may be too cute by half, but I may be wrong.
Private schools are not required to have degreed teachers, are they?
maybe JE opffered special ed classes for the employees.
Apparently Epstein was a talented musician and had a genius level IQ. Malth, you don’t amass a $550 million fortune by being stupid. It looks like he let his sexual proclivities get the best of him.
Brh
BRH, That seems absolutely correct. No doubt, he was brilliant in mathematics and finance.
According to EO Young, the national president of the Council of Prison Locals C-33, said that Epstein’s case highlighted a grim reality for the MCC’s prison guards.
“We can’t ever stop anyone who is persistent on killing themselves,” Young said. “The only thing the bureau can do is delay that.”
That grim reality is a byproduct of the fact that the Trump Administration had implemented a hiring freeze for the federal bureau of prisons.
“All this was caused by the administration,” Young said.
So it’s Trump’s fault that the prison guards either let Epstein kill himself or let someone kill Epstein. Got it. Trump’s fault, just like the hurricanes and mass shootings.
New York Rumors
What happens in connection with Epstein’s “suicide” simply doesn’t pass through any gates. For my 30 years in the USA I have not seen an information campaign of such force.
Even if Epstein’s suicide is recognized as murder, and not just murder, but murder according to the hashtag “#ClintonBodyCount” that the US president has re-twitted, this still cannot explain the intensity of the information that in one way or another related to Epstein’s “suicide”.
Half of the article in the Yahoo News feed is devoted to this topic, with the second half discussing topics such as missile technology tests by North Korea, three mass shootings of Americans and the related attempt to cancel the Second Amendment to the US Constitution and take away from the Americans their favorite AK-47.
Moreover, the last phrase is the key in this post, in which I have to voice the rumors so idiotic that under normal circumstances I would have thrown them into the trash, not really bothering with their reliability.
But according to one of these rumors, the House of Representatives is preparing to vote on the law in the very near future, which will deprive Americans not only of the right to buy weapons, but also allow the government to take away the weapons that they already have, including what they received from their parents as an inheritance.
In my opinion, this is so impossible that I did not even discuss it, but yesterday I return home, turn on the video recorder and in one of Sunday’s political programs I see the adviser to President Conway and I hear how she rejects just such a version of the bill precisely because it lies on the president’s desk as the most likely.
And complete with this idiocy, which is a guaranteed way to transfer the US civil war from a cold stage to a hot, there was a response of one of the Clintonoids to a story about a relative of Trump who was attacked by Jeffrey Epstein ten years ago.
After exchanging glances with his like-minded bodies, he told me that then the casino guards thoroughly beat Epstein up and he sued Trump for a lot of billions of dollars.
And the Democrats are demanding Trump’s tax return because taking into account Epstein’s lawsuit for a busted kidney, Trump is bankrupt!
And that is precisely why he ordered Epstein to be killed, which will lead him to impeachment, which the US Senate will confirm!!!
Is there any evidence Epstein ever filed such a lawsuit against Trump, much less won a settlement? I’ve never heard anything about it before. And civil lawsuits like that are a matter of public record, not some state secret.
I am bringing that story up as an example of another idiotic “conspiracy theory”.
See my post below:
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/he-did-what/#comment-435324
Another opinion from a guy with pretty good credentials:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3zrc-8_Bsk
Thanks for posting the link to the video Ol’ Scratch. Notice the “glitch” at 1:10?
Quite a provocative video, but it aligns nicely with what we know about these kind of CIA honeypot operations and how they’re typically resolved. Epstein was no doubt a just front man and a stooge, notable mostly for his charm and grace with these elite pols and celebrities. Hard to say whether he’s still alive or not, but the arrest and suicide story is no doubt a ruse to fuel rampant public speculation, no doubt fueled by further CIA disinformation tactics in the aftermath to further fan the flames. At this point in the game they’re actively encouraging conspiracy theories, as they know the explanations for the now rampant and ubiquitous false flag operations we’re seeing everyday don’t hold water. But they also know that’s a huge advantage, as the goal now is to simply sow confusion and dissension among the populace.
There is speculation that Epstein is now in the witness protection program and singing like a canary. I find this interesting because of the picture that accompanied one story where, body on a stretcher, but with the face uncovered as if it was so people could be sure he was dead.
The political & financial elite of the USA & Israel most assuredly wanted him silenced forever. The ‘suicide’ claptrap is just that, it’s claptrap. More aptly he was suicided/murdered/offed/dirt napped/snuffed out/exterminated with extreme prejudice.
Kind of like Apocalypse Now where the intel guy tells the Captain to get rid of the guy in the woods that thinks they are grocery boys running errands for the political masters in drag.
J. Edgar Hoover was the first to master the end game play for the playbook.
RW
Earlier, a commenter pointed out the suspicious connections between William Barr, his father Donald Barr, and Jeffery Epstein. I have checked these assertions via Wickepedia and they appear to be true. I will list them here with sources.
William Barr worked in the CIA as a China analyst from 1973 to 1977.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barr
His father Donald Barr, Served in the OSS during World War 2. He was headmaster of the Dalton School from 1964 to 1974, during which time he hired Jeffery Epstein as a math teacher, despite Epstein being a 20 year old college dropout.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Barr
Donald Barr wrote a a science fiction novel, “Space Relations” which largely deals with sex slavery.
https://medium.com/@cshechtwriter/donald-barr-wrote-a-book-3023a94a0edc
https://www.amazon.com/Space-relations-slightly-gothic-interplanetary/dp/0860000249
Make of this what you will. These do seem like rather odd coincidences however.
People do seem to forget, Mr. K included, that AG Barr is about as deep in the deep state as one can get. I expect nothing substantively hopeful or good to come from him.
There is an Op-Ed piece in today’s NYT titled Banning Assault Weapons Works written (allegedly) by Joe Biden. I doubt it. I think Joe was invited to write something but had a staffer do it and then had another trusted confidant read it to see if it would pass muster with Joe. The reader told Joe, “Yeah, I think it’s OK to go out under your name.” And so it did.
Who’s got time to write essays? There’s hands to shake and babies to kiss.
And little girls to nuzzle. Oh Joe!
And freshly orphaned babies to hold.
Well Joe does have a tendency to plagiarize ya know.
Just in from the New York AP office 4:40 PM — New York Medical Examiner responsible for the Jeffry Epstein autopsy report, is killed in a botched convenience store robbery. 4:40 PM 8/13/2019
4:40 PM 8/13/2019 – stelmo
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OK, you had me there for a minute. That last time and date, being tomorrow, means your post is a joke, sort of.
Well Q, feel free to post possible outcomes about how this thing will finally shake out…If it ever does. I would not hold my breath! Especially at your age.! ;0)
You joke, but it would not surprise me if people close to this case started dropping dead from various causes. We must live in a universe filled with remarkable coincidences since conspiracies are all debunked.
its not 4 – 1 today.
fooled ya.
Maybe Epstein figured out the game was up, wanted to commit suicide, and found a way to do it. For him, The Big Sleep was preferable to 15 or 20 years in Colorado Supermax.
Rip, you must have responded to many suicides in yor career.
Brh
Yes I have, the successful ones are pretty easy calls . Dead, no transport. The idiots that blotch it are the problem. We had an old timer that tried the shotgun in the mouth trick. Well he survived but with about 2/3rds of his face left. Pain in the ass call but was good for a fucked-up story.
Idiot probably used #7 1/2 birdshot, shoulda used #4 turkey load.
Now there’s a case of “too soon old, too late smart”.
That #4 turkey load is a good all around shell for many purposes.
Ma Barker preferred that load for her Browning A5 semi auto. Now that was a sweet shotgun, John Browning’s masterpiece.
Brh
I’ll never forget Shelly Winters as Ma Barker in that movie she did. Citing Ma Barker’s favorite caliber bullets is telling in that I would bet petro-dollars to donuts that you are a long gun owner.
RW
Shelly Winters playing Ma Barker – excellent casting. LOL
“Browning A5 semi auto.”
BRH,
I know a guy who owns half a dozen of the things. Why, I myself, for years, used an A5 “Sweet 16” for crow hunting …had many triples.
I am becoming increasingly annoyed by nearly everything I read. The problem is a failure to define terms. For example: no one ever defines the difference between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. The terms are used interchangeably from one sentence to the next.* But are they as fungible as pennies from the penny stamping machine at the mint? I don’t think so.
*See today’s NYT Op-Ed article titled “What Changed in Charlottesville.”
The mother of all terms in need of precise definition is/are:
.race
.racism
.racist
I have a theory (which I can’t prove) that if you went back to the first dictionary definitions of these words you would find that they did not carry a pejorative sense.
1 casualty in Charlottesville,
Phew!!!
What a massacre!!!
Brh
I see it as a business opportunity, selling “Quik Clot” to convenience and liquor stores.
NEW YORK TIMES. 8-11 FRONT PAGE
NYT bemoans the White nationalism in Sweden–aka sewer den.
You know that failure to define is intentional I assume? It works because most people don’t understand the concept of defining your terms. As if the same words mean the same thing to different people. Without knowing or consenting, you have imbibed some of my Teaching.
With you a white nationalist has zero to do with racism!
I would like to comment a little outside of this particular case and point a few things out.
Our government lied us into a war in Iraq. We know this because of the Downing Street Memos and Scott Ritter, and that there was a complete lack of evidence and nobody was held accountable for “accidentally” starting a war in Iraq over a non existent weapons of mass destruction program. In fact, people were fired from both the news and the intelligence agencies when they (foolishly) pointed out that the Bush administration was “likely” incorrect .
Our government lied to us about why it was bombing Libya. Remember that? Supposedly it was to “prevent a humanitarian crisis” – well it was left in civil war, with slavery markets operating.
Our government lied us into Syria. What would Assad’s motivation be to use chemical weapons against the civilian population there? What would be his strategy doing that? He was setup, those were false flags. The ONE WEAPON that would give the US an excuse to bomb Syria was used, maybe.
How’s that Venezuelan coup going? Juan Guaido have a lot of popular support? That was another lie.
Our government is lying every now and then about Iran. When Iran was supposedly blowing up a Japanese tanker ship, that was HEADED to Iran, Shinzo Abe, the Japanese PM, was in Iran meeting the PM there. That was another lie.
Afghanistan is filled with lies. Do you know that back in 2001, Afghanistan produced about 5% of the world’s supply of opium, and now produces over 80% of the world’s supply – and this was done ALL UNDER US military occupation. Oh, and the US just happens to have an opioid epidemic..
Then we had 2 1/2 years of “Russia hacked our election!!!” and “Trump is a Russian Stooge!!”. 30 months of that.
Finally, what appears to be a pedophile who very well may have worked for an intelligence agency to get politicians and business leaders in compromising position with child RAPE victims gets arrested, and appears to have been done away with in prison.
And now, FINALLY people are starting not to believe the official bullshit. I wonder if any of you know what it’s like to be in an insane world for 18 years, before the rest of the people you’re surrounded with, FINALLY notice it? It’s been extremely lonely here, 18 years.
I wonder how you will react when the full scale of criminality of your government is finally exposed to you? Once you see what is actually going on, you don’t go back to your lala land of denial and gullibility. You never will.
You are absolutely correct about the corrupt, lying scum of a government that America has and has had for a very long time now. I know that I cannot change it, but I denounce the lies and the corruption and I fight the only way that I can, at the small. local level. If judgment is leveled upon this once great nation and the crap that hits the fan falls on everyone, including me, I will be able to say that I denounced the evil and fought in the only way that I knew how to fight it. I hope it works, wish me luck.
RWicks, you forgot to mention 9/11.
I’ve been with you since requesting a discharge from the USAF during the Vietnam War for political reasons and getting it, under honorable conditions.
I see this schtick about WMD and Iraq all the time.
Yet just a little bit of actual research reveals there was WMD found in Iraq and the means to make hundreds of tons of WMD.
With the chemicals found a gas used in wwI could have been made.
There was also 500 tons of Yellow cake shipped off to Canada,
Further some old war heads were found to contain wmd as well.
So none means zero and that is not the truth some where found.
I know it’s a favorite talking point from the arm chair warriors but at the time only a hand full of people were saying don’t do it don’t go in and now people still talking about it use it for political virtue signaling.
As far as Afghanistan it also has huge amounts of natural gas, oil and rare earth minerals as well as a major pipeline running through it.
benr
“I know it’s a favorite talking point from the arm chair warriors but at the time only a hand full of people were saying don’t do it don’t go in and now people still talking about it use it for political virtue signaling.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2765041.stm
“Hundreds of thousands of people have taken to the streets of London to voice their opposition to military action against Iraq.
Police said it was the UK’s biggest ever demonstration with at least 750,000 taking part, although organisers put the figure closer to two million.
“There were also anti-war gatherings in Glasgow and Belfast – all part of a worldwide weekend of protest with hundreds of rallies and marches in up to 60 countries.
I’d say that was a bit more than a handful of people, benr.
The expression ‘virtue signalling’ does mean something, but it is somewhat overused as an knee-jerk insult.
Let me rephrase that then people that are in positions of power that mattered at the time.
Better?
Better, but I think you’re still limiting yourself in terms of other countries than your own. The EU countries almost all were against it, and France was labelled a country of ‘cheese-eating surrender monkeys’ for its pains.
Besides the UK, Poland was the only EU country supporting the US position.
And around the world, there was a massive amount of opposition from national governments:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governmental_positions_on_the_Iraq_War_prior_to_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq
The Johnson government is about to get us into a similar position again, with Trump able to reap the benefit of
the UK being prised away from the influence of the EU and sucked more closely into the sphere of the US. Seeing John Bolton visiting hasn’t reassured me.
Our post-Brexit future won’t be and never was just about trade. This is about geopolitical alignments and I fear we may pay dearly for the decision in ways that those who voted for it had no clue or intention.
And yes the term virtue signaling is an insult to everyone’s intelligence and is meant as an insult.
It’s insulting that people feel the need to show everyone how superior they are because they must show what they believe on their sleeve!
This is a perfect example of the stupidity of which I post.
https://www.amazon.com/SignsOfJustice-We-Believe-Yard-Sign/dp/B06XQDXG63/ref=asc_df_B06XQDXG63/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=216741068566&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8373058146212295956&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1014218&hvtargid=pla-350953389328&psc=1
I was referring to the knee-jerk use of the term to discredit opponents, in a context like the Iraq war. Those of us who opposed it fiercely at the time are not and were not virtue signallers and neither were those who had the courage to oppose it in Parliament either.
These signs are all over my neighborhood. It makes me kind of nauseous.
@ga
I can’t speak to other countries nor do I really care what other countries think about the actions of the US.
What is good for you may not be what is good for we the people.
The Iraq war was bad inmost contexts but eliminating Saddam and more important his two insane sons was not all bad.
What was bad is it takes a real bastard to keep Iraq under control and used as a foil against Iran.
benr
It’s unfortunate that you don’t care what people think of your actions. Sometimes it’s worth listening to what other people have to say.
You could have dealt entirely differently with Iraq – deposed Saddam and taken a more mature and educated view of the situation, but that wasn’t Bush’s way. A minute fraction of what you spent killing hundreds of thousands of people would have paid salaries to the Iraqi security forces, fed their families and got them on your side, and kept the water and the electricity running (which would have got pretty much all the population on your side.
But there was more money to be made by Halliburton and co. by killing people.
And this whole ‘for/to/of we the people’ thing is irritating, if I may mention it. You don’t hear people saying ‘ do that for we‘, do you? It’s ‘to <us the flippin’ people’. If you’re going to be exceptionalists, let’s see some basic grammar.
*for* us… in this case.
@ga
I don’t expect you to understand why I phrased it the way I did as I don’t know the wording in England’s founding documents,
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
benr:
“…promote the general Welfare…”
It’s been a Yyyyyuge fail on THAT score, huh.
So, benr, seeing one of these signs makes you feel INFERIOR, huh? Does the 1st Amendment bite the dust for you?
I know why you wrote it that way, benr.
But ‘We the people’ in that sentence is the subject of the sentence. If you use ‘we the people’ as the object of the sentence, it just makes you, the people, sound illiterate.
The AG’s after-the-fact outrage rings hollow to me. Given the clear danger that Epstein could be murdered or commit suicide, and given the horrible reputation of the correctional center for corruption, couldn’t Barr have demanded a special, 24/7 detail to guard his cell, answerable directly to him? The “overworked and understaffed” claim is an insulting red herring.
Barr is playing a role for the PTBs. He’s doing his best acting job. Probably will not be Oscar worthy when all said and done. But, it’ll probably do enough to TCB, then retire with that golden deep state parachute.
Yes. He initially recused himself, only to reverse the decision the next day. Was that after ‘further instruction’?
Thanks for the thumbs up, Brh. Since it was such a late post, I thought I would put it up again. Yes, my own creation on the Dinocars theme.
CRUDE AWAKENING
The Dinocars are still gulping from the Black Lagoons
Drinking them down ’till the last teaspoon
Tasting dead life that was there for the taking
The Dinocars came alive with the great Crude Awakening
On today’s topic, I can only ask, was it self erasure or a rash rubout?
Yeah TS, Dutch Schultz, Legs Diamond, Frankie Yale, Mayor Jimmy Walker (Beau James), hard core Damon Runyon New Yorkers who knew what a real rubout was and participated personally in more than a few, would laugh at this penny ante bullsh#t. No smokin tommy guns, no ckalk lines on the pavement, no spent brass tinkling onto the pavement, no hot lead slamming into Ford super 8 sedans … forgetaboutit, you call that a hit?
Brh
BRH,
Why no mention of Frank Nitti? You got something against Italians?
Nah, I’ve got nothing against anybody.
I’m just interested more in prohibition era gangsters, which pre dated by a few years the Italian mafias domination of organized crime in NYC. Italians were around then, but Irish and Jewish gangsters were big players too.
E, during your days as a police officer in the Bay Area, did you ever come across a Tommy Gun, or take one off the street?
Brh
“did you ever come across a Tommy Gun,”
BRH,
During the infamous ambush at 103’d and Eades, several Black Panthers used Automatic weapons to shoot up a police unit and one of the officers (name of Bouchard, as I recall). Weapons used? Stolen M-16 military Auto rifle, and an M-3 “Grease gun”, also stolen and fully auto…it was recovered after a looong chase of 103 blocks on the Nimitz, almost the full length Oakland. The Panthers also had hand grenades, and were throwing them at the pursuit vehicles.
“Tommy Guns” were somewhat unwieldy, cumbersome and heavy…I have owned 6 of them over the years…an interesting curio, but not my first choice in a sporty situation.
A couple of the alternative media reporters interviewed different blokes who had either worked or who had done time in the Manhattan prison where Epstein died. Both emphatically said: “There’s no Fuck’n way Epstein committed suicide in that place.”
We have a criminal government run by a bunch of peadophiles.
Jimmy Dore on Epstein….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SoFIzKyMmZQ
Former MCC Inmate Says Epstein Suicide Was ‘Impossible’
A former inmate at lower Manhattan’s Metropolitan Correctional Center who spent several months in the prison’s notorious 9 South special housing unit for high-profile prisoners told the New York Post that it would have been ‘impossible’ for millionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein to have killed himself.
“There’s no way that man could have killed himself. I’ve done too much time in those units. It’s an impossibility,” said the former inmate, adding “Between the floor and the ceiling is like eight or nine feet. There’s no way for you to connect to anything.”
“You have sheets, but they’re paper level, not strong enough. He was 200 pounds — it would never happen.”
“They don’t give you enough in there that could successfully create an instrument of death. You want to write a letter, they give you rubber pens and maybe once a week a piece of paper,” and that there’s nothing hard or metal provided.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-11/former-mcc-inmate-says-its-impossible-epstein-have-killed-himself
red scarf suicides.
bourdain
kate spade
chester bennington
chris cornell
etc
okie dokie. No red scarf involved with Epstein. Nor pink, blue, yellow, etc….
Thanks for the reminder though. (BTW….I’ve always had suspicions about Bourdain’s suicide. But can’t prove it. And I didn’t care about the guy anyway. Was never a fan).
Travis,
Somewhere I saw this;
I was surprised at Epstein’s suicide…though not as surprised as Epstein, I imagine….
I read about Epstein and his pedophilia and I am disgusted.
I think of all the Elites and others who profit from activities like his pedophilia. I also think of all the other activities that are occurring in the US under the leadership of many other folks who are making huge profits from drugs and trafficking. This country is sick.
The coverup with the assassination is sickening. The idiots on MSNBC are already trying to tie Trump to the assassination. They prove again they are insane. We are going to see a massive campaign by the media to protect the Left elites that are running away from the Epstein situation as fast as possible.
How the heck did this country get s-o-o biased to the Left that they are so confident of vindication, not just from Epstein’s death, but from the activities he represented. It is almost at the point that the Deep State is The Democratic Party.
Trump threw Epstein out of his circle years ago. Why? Be cause he assaulted a young woman on Trump property. So they cannot get Trump directly as an associate of Epstein. So instead Idiot Joe tries to blame the suicide on Barr and Trump. It is bullshit!
The corruption in this government is under attack now. The public will soon find out if justice will be done against the scum that have allowed these activities to go on over the years, no decades.
Want someone to blame? Try the Playboy advisor and Hefner’s influence in the fifties and on, That is how long ago this started. And all he did was expose the feelings that were here in the first place.
It is irreversible. The next leaders of the immorality set are moving into place now to replace Epstein and El Chapo.
He was not a pedophile, as far as I can tell.
No he wasn’t a pedophile. He seemed to like older teens, but I’m sure he did a few younger and mid teens as well over the years. Basically had Bill Clinton’s same tastes.
If he had clients who preferred children I’m sure he hooked them up. But mostly he trafficked teens.
JohnAZ, if the deep state got to Epstein, it indicates negligence at the very least by Barr and Trump. They should have put him into some safe place they controlled. The more I learn about the long time deep state loyal payer AG Barr – the less I trust him.
What did the Godfather say? “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” Trump has surrounded himself with traitors and enemies; maybe not such a good idea after all.
Zero Hedge reports Epstein’s lawyers got him off suicide watch.
Let me get this straight, just so I’m not operating under incorrect premises:
A man who has “intimate” (har har) knowledge of the sordid behaviors of our supposed “better” leaders, was incarcerated and obligated to testify under oath, had a recent history of suicidal behavior, and who’s court records have just been unsealed, and who’s testimony could implicate all sorts of “important and influential people” is found dead of “suicide” in a Federal prison under NYC jurisdiction?
And this is a coincidence?
I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but Jesus H, Christ.
No, I also don’t post here often but sometimes I just have to contribute.
I would only suggest to revise the statement that you made as to Mr. Epstein’s “history of suicidal behavior”, to state instead that he had been previously “alleged” to have attempted suicide while incarcerated, though never proven. It is my experience both personal and anecdotal, that the extremely wealthy and the overly narcissistic not only NEVER take their own lives, but they in fact will do absolutely anything possible to extend their questionable existences even one more minute. One reason that this is usually the case is that once they are dead they will give up the good times forever, but another, and more important IMHO, is that they are seriously concerned that eternal judgment is not a myth.
Good points, Walter. Thanks!
Even my wife is calling horse manure on the narrative.
So if she is calling BS then a majority of the country probably is as well.
Oh, I’d also like clarification on another topic that I can’t seem to get elsewhere. Correct me if I’m wrong:
If I don’t feel guilty for being white, then I’m a white supremacist and therefore racist.
If I prefer to associate with those who share my (white?) values then I’m not “woke” and thereby a racist, correct?
If I don’t recognize my “white privilege*” then I am automatically “not woke” and also thereby racist?
And If I don’t acknowledge my “white privilege” in a dominant white, quasi-European culture, then I also tacitly approve of anything and everything my “race” has done and am therefore proud of my race which makes me both a white supremacist and a racist and I’m back to square one.
Like I said, I’m getting confused.
-Bob
*Nevermind that in a culture like say, Japan, I wouldn’t have “white privilege” and would immediately be pegged as gaijin and appropriately marked as “outsider”.
Bob, please refer to AOC’s tweets for the latest in your racial medical condition.
Wow…those tweets. What a shrill, sanctimonious harpy.
I bet she’s a hoot at parties.
Hmm. That’s what you consider ‘shrill’? The fact is that you’re so one-eyed about virtually everything, that anything anyone y that disagrees with your perspective will be shouted down.
Bob you haven’t made it there just yet. If you are White then you are inherently racist. You need say no more. Its in the DNA so you can’t redeem yourself. You will always be wicked. In order to begin the path to absolution you will need to be cleansed of your supremacy and privilege. And this means we need all your stuff for reparation purposes plus we reserve the right to deprive you of your rights as we see fit at any given time. Any questions?
All you need to know is that anyone spewing forth the nonsense you have just typed about is just crazy.
Who cares what they think!
Reprint of my post of November 27, 2018, which I think adequately describes the current multiple theories of Epstein’s “suicide”
Conspirology: Russia, USA, Israel. Religious factor
First of all, the question arises of how pygmy Israel got into this company of the great powers, Israel, which even on the map of the Middle East can hardly be seen?
To answer this question, let me start by clarifying the concept of conspiracy:
For the last 300 years, the powers that be have experienced the bitter lessons of the “color” revolutions, which did not go as they planned, convinced them that after inventing printing press, it is impossible to control the spread of information and controlled chaos is constantly transforming into ordinary chaos, the only way out of which is traditional society.
And, having refused direct control, they had to invent other methods of political control (soft power?) And conspiracy theories occupied an honorable place in it. Their essence is that if the manipulation becomes obvious, then in advance, 3000 theories are instantly invented and published, exposing these manipulations in the most distorted, delusional manner, and publishing the truth by association instantly turns up on the bookshelf under the name “Delirium of a gray gelding”.
Full text at https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/murphys-law-to-the-rescue/#comment-383025
A lot of people believe the TV story that Epstein committed suicide.
The Society is going sadomasochistic dominant submissive tot..Ali..tarian. People believe unbelievable shit because that is what the TV says. And they don’t really believe it. They’re being dishonest. I’d try to get out of there. That’s Mao/ Stalin/ Na…zi level crazy. There could be a blood bath.
Wait. So you are saying lots of people believe Epstein committed suicide, but not really? It actually seems like the majority of people believe he was killed or that he is still alive. But I could be living in a bubble.
They’re just pretending.
“Good news! It’s not a “conspiracy theory” anymore. The media finally understand that government policies affect demographics and that demography matters.”
[In his latest analysis, columnist Gregory Hood at American Renaissance breaks down for us the hypocrisy of the far left mouthpieces at the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Atlantic magazine, Bloomberg News, the AP, the BBC, & Vox.
The human rights group American Renaissance has made the same argument about the United States for decades contra radical levellers like pkrugman/deetrump & Elrond Huppert, who aren’t even Americans.]
“The Indian-controlled portion of Kashmir, known as Jammu and Kashmir (J&K), is the only majority-Muslim state in Hindu India. When India became independent in 1947, Article 370 of its constitution granted special rights to J&K so that it could maintain a Muslim majority.”
“On August 5, India revoked Article 370, to the dismay of most American media. Hindus, they warned, might take over!
Vox’s Alex Ward, for example, noted that Article 375 barred people outside the state from buying property, and was written to ‘prevent India’s majority-Hindu population from moving into Jammu and Kashmir and displacing the Muslims who live there.’ Mr. Ward warned there could be ‘ethnic cleansing.’ In another piece, Mr. Ward wrote that some believe ‘Hindus will flock to the region to push out the Muslims once and for all.’”
“Suggesting that loss of local population control could lead to ‘ethnic cleansing’ sounds like an unhinged conspiracy theory. Mr. Ward himself, in a piece praising Pete Buttigieg’s plan to combat ‘white extremism,’ said the idea ‘that white people are being replaced’ is a ‘white nationalist’ idea promoted by murderers such as the Christchurch shooter.”
“What’s wrong with revoking Article 370? Shouldn’t all Indians be able to buy property in their own country? Preventing ‘outsiders’ from buying property sounds like restrictive covenants to me.
Mr. Ward or some ‘extremism expert’ should tell the Muslim Kashmiris that there is no ‘us’ or ‘them,’ and that diversity will soon be their greatest strength.”
more at…
https://www.amren.com/commentary/2019/08/kashmir-suddenly-the-left-understands-the-great-replacement/
Oh really? Hmmm ok, so suddenly just overnight apparently Ethnocentrism is good and possibly something to fight for. Do they think their biases will go unnoticed I wonder or do they really care if they are noticed or not? I’m thinking that they have lost all restraint and don’t care about anything else but the agenda now.
Pathologist and Fox News Contributor Michael Baden Hired by Jeffrey Epstein’s Team to Observe Autopsy
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/pathologist-fox-news-contributor-michael-161356228.html
From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Baden
Baden was the chief medical examiner of the City of New York from 1978 to 1979. He was chairman of the House Select Committee on Assassinations’ Forensic Pathology Panel that investigated the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
Baden maintains a private forensic pathology consulting practice. He has been a consulting or lead pathologist and an expert witness on a number of other high-profile cases and investigations. He testified at the trial of O. J. Simpson, at Sergeant Evan Vela’s court martial, and at Phil Spector’s murder trial. He has been hired to conduct private autopsies in a number of cases, including the shooting of Michael Brown and the deaths of New England Patriots football player Aaron Hernandez and civil rights lawyer and politician Chokwe Lumumba.
The people are so brain dead and dishonest that they choose what to believe on the basis of emotion and what is convenient. It could go very crazy…mass grave crazy…. I’d try to get out of there.
“I believe that this bloke deserved to be shot in the back of the head beside the roadside because it’s cold, and I needed his warm coat.”
People are Fuck’n Nuts….
Nightcrawler
Get out of where?
The United States….
There is speculation that Epstein is now in the witness protection program and singing like a canary == The Freeholder
Highly likely?
If we throw away all idiotic conspiracy theories, what remains is a competition between the Clinton team, who wanted to eliminate an absolutely crucial witness and the Trump team who desperately needed to make Epstein cooperate with the prosecution – we are talking National Security of the highest order, since it was definitely the sect of the pedophiles who arranged the fire on Losharik and unsuccessful attempt on the live of President Putin.
First move was made by the Clinton team, which almost cost Epstein his life, and made him more susceptible to the prosecution’s offer, which probably included some more mild accommodations for the rest of his life than federal maximum security prison.
After he agreed to cooperate with the prosecution and supplied first batch of evidence, the Trump team transferred Epstein to special witness protection program after staging a second assassination attempt, and now has an upper hand in the game, including opportunity to mercilessly troll Clintons with #ClintonBodyCount.
I hope you are right on that.
He Did What?
http://chasingthesquirrel.com/pics/maga_epstein.png
There have been enumerable disparaging names/terms for dark skinned people who originated from Africa. At first they were referred to as Negroes but that quickly morphed into niggers… probably the most politically incorrect term in any language on earth. I can’t imagine that the term Paki among the Brits has nearly the negative sense to it.
There are probably dozens of disparaging terms that have come and gone (jigaboo, brillohead, spear chucker, spade, etc.) since nigger was essentially outlawed. There was a constant search for a term that could be used in public to identify these people (dare I say these people?) without upsetting them. ‘Blacks’ was the most logical but somehow ‘African American’ became the somewhat officially correct term of the media. Yet ‘blacks’ and ‘African Americans’ is being used about 50-50, almost interchangeably. But still the people who these terms are meant to identify remained on edge and unsatisfied.
There’s another term that’s been around awhile but it never seemed to catch on until very recently when the four female politicians calling themselves “the Squad” emerged with great fanfare. I refer, of course, to “people of color.”
I would love to get a count on how many times ‘people of color’ has been used in all publications vs blacks, African Americans and Negroes just since these four women invented themselves as the Squad. The term is ubiquitous and, to me, sooooooo annoying.
One of the forbidden terms from yesteryear was “colored people.” Theoretically this term would apply to any person with skin color ranging from light tan to black as the ace of spades. Anyone except “white” Caucasians, very few of whom are literally white. But, no, the term was only used in reference to people of African descent. I imagine a South Korean manicurist, much less a dentist, would be appalled to be called a ‘colored person.’ At any rate the term ‘colored people,’ or worse yet, ‘colored folks‘ fell by the wayside or, more accurately, was thrown under the bus.
I have written about this ‘colored people’ vs ‘people of color’ issue before. I STILL don’t get it. How can ‘people of color’ be totally politically correct while ‘colored people’ is totally offensive.
I would like someone with a flair for linguistics, perhaps Green Alba, to explain this to me. And for a second opinion I would turn to Asoka Krugman.
Colorful People?
I know you did not ask me but I don’t give a rats ass. The answer is obvious.
‘people of color’
Note people comes first. People (the group you are in) is INCLUDING people who have color.
‘colored people’
The word colored comes first this time. The emphasis is reversed. Color is used to EXCLUDE people this time. Color is more important than people here.
Linguistically brains are hardwired to generate the right grammar depending on a situation being inclusive or exclusive. Differences between people are just differences, and both statements are factually correct and consistent. But culture defines systems based on arbitrary value assignments between people to create groups. Groups to express power relationships. Engineered to maintain existing power relationships and social order, different grammatical forms are available to be applied to the native language of a speaker.
Just because a word comes first, that doesn’t mean it’s more important in a sentence. English is structured so that modifiers generally come before the nouns they modify. ‘People of Color’ don’t have a Labeling problem; they have a Being problem. Being black in America means being opposed to America.
They see themselves in terms of opposition to their White environment. That’s what “White Privilege” is in their minds, the fact that they are not easily assimilated into White society, even after 65 years of establishment effort, & they feel (perhaps justifiably) resentful about it. In order for White Privilege to vanish, every single White in America must be brainwashed into believing without question things which are very doubtful. How likely is that?
I’m tired of the term “white people”. We should insist on being called “people of pinkish tint”. And I want a whole new set of pronouns just for us. When I think of some, I’ll get back to you.
Don’t forget “people with freckles” as a minority in their own right.
Oh yes, the much maligned “unwanted, red-headed step-children” of history.
But many Big Dem Pols speak of their own ‘White Privilige’. What gives? Are they simply virtue signalling, trolling for votes? Why bother? They already have the black and hispanic vote sewed up. Why grovel and publicly debase yourself when, politically, it is not necessary?
Brh
why not? ever see the term, ‘virtue signalling?’.
I AM MORE VIRTUOUS THAT THOSE OTHER RICH WHITES.
it is pretty fucking likely. To support white privilege America has been brainwashed into believing without question a Santa bag of things that are fucking bat shit crazy. How likely is that to happen, to believe crazy shit? Look around. It has already happened a million times over so likely-hood is 100%.
To be embedded in culture, any culture, a certain insanity is needed to survive. The oppressed must learn to oppress themselves since daily hard repression is energy intensive and not needed. Oppressors want compliance with as little maintenance as possible. They have better things to do. Like fuck teenagers.
I see, so you’re saying what we believe is a mass delusion, & our rock-bottom beliefs can be manipulated any way TPTB want them to be for a “just & more verdant world” to use a phrase I hear often on PBS. That they are making a mighty effort is in no doubt. That they will succeed can be summarized with,
dream on, mad dog.
Rock bottom beliefs are hard to find.
“If you want servants, perhaps you can perceive it in your best interests to terrorize others into serving you. This is as true for terrorizing women as it is for children as it is for the poor as it is for nonwhites as it is for nonhumans as it is for any others to be enslaved.”
A woman I have heard only needs a beating a year to keep her in line. Do you know if this is true Tate?
Quotes without attribution? Are you just quoting yourself? I see, legend-in-his-own-mind sort of thing.
“Are you just quoting yourself?”
Took me five seconds to confirm that the answer is no. Try it.
No. Their color is their self identity. They’ve made that abundantly obvious. And P of C broadens it into being a coalition against Whites. It’s much broader than “CP” which just meant Blacks.
Kdog falls here, babbling in PC jargon while I in contrast get to the pith, the kernel of things.
The bee makes a lot of noise outside the flower but once inside she becomes quiet as she gorges on the nectar. Kdog never enters in, “content” to buzz outside….
Tate is right: they’ll never be Americans nor do they wish to be. Thus they are only legal or nominal Americans or Americans in name only. The spirit saves but the letter killeth (St Paul). And when the Law serves the latter instead of the former, the Nation or Culture is doomed.
Thus they are only legal or nominal Americans or Americans in name only.
Your mental refinement shows. American through and through. My random jargon could never hope to tower to such intellectual heights. You show an ability to manipulate the abstract that I can only dream of.
No doubt you will agree that since men do not get pregnant maternity leave is totally unfair.
There it is. P of C broadens it into a coalition against Whites. That’s the sum & substance of the term.
The answer is obvious. – Dog
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Frankly Dog, your explanation has shed little light for me. Would you favor saying Harvard is loaded with ‘people of smarts?’
That the blind cannot see is my problem why?
Only because I must share their world but I don’t have to share your false values. I feel good enough about myself I don’t have to pretend to believe a foolishness that economically selected groups selects for intelligence at the same time when daily evidence supports the exact opposite conclusion. To think Harvard is loaded with people of smarts any more than a Cow-Polly is something that is not true and could not possibly be true.
You disagree, prove it. Intelligence is a secondary consideration to economic background. Simple logic suggests the process then must select for well connected stupidity but simple logic won’t get you by. To get buy you choose to believe nonsense and support by acquiescence, the injustice that lie was erected to support.
Writing ‘your explanation has shed little light for me’ is a clever trick. It got you two more paragraphs. 🙂
To think Harvard is loaded with people of smarts any more than a Cow-Polly is something that is not true and could not possibly be true. – Dog
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^This^ sentence tells me you have completely missed my point. My point has to do with your apparent preference for placing adjectives AFTER the nouns they modify. It has nothing to do with Harvard’s reputation (whether deserved or undeserved) for containing lots of smart people or people of smarts.
That the blind cannot see is my problem why? – Dog
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What is the purpose of ^this^ convoluted sentence structure? “Why is it my problem that the blind cannot see?” would be so much simpler.
BTW, despite the smiley face at the end it is fairly obvious that my long comment about the term ‘people of color’ has angered you and I don’t understand why.
I thought Noo Yawk Jews talk like that. Maybe it comes from Yiddish grammatical structure adapted to English.
Intelligence is highly correlated to economic success.
Ah, in other words you are setting the table. Got it!
All dogs eat.
It’s psychological. The salient principle is that Whites must be kept of balance. Always wrong in other words. So once Whites bow down to one politically correct term it must be changed so they’re wrong again.
Q,
I should not be telling stories on myself…but;
One day my partner and I rolled up to a Safeway Grocery store located close to the Berkley border in upper West Oakland. The armed store security (this was in 1970…armed…security…) had made a citizen’s arrest on a shoplifter. It was my partner’s turn to do the paperwork, and as he was doing so, he was repeatedly interrupted by the security guard, who was obviously Polynesian, or Hawaiian. The security guard was making a pest of himself, trying to tell my partner, (almost 20 years on the force) how to write the paper.
When the prisoner was secured by another unit and removed to the jail, my partner got into the car and was laughing. I asked him why, and he told me that on the paperwork, he listed the security guard, the lead witness and arresting citizen, as…”colored”…it seemed hilarious at the time….
Why hasn’t anyone mentioned it yet? Is it a secret? Is the topic taboo? The confabulations are underway and conspiracy theories abound, from the outlandish to the outrageous.
Was it the Clintons? Was the pope so outraged that he colluded with some cardinal, or some bishop in the New York archdiocese? Was it an angry, jealous janitor who never got enough sex? Oh, wait a minute, maybe it was Trump together with Barr. You know, that Barr is no bar magnet for chicks. And Trump nailed a lot of nymphs.
Okay, okay, enough beating around the bush. Hmmm, maybe I shouldn’t use that expression. The ultimate cause of all of this, what got Epstein erased eventually, is the Power of Pussy. Nay, nay, hold your tongue and give thought to the Source.
Think about it. You’re rich, powerful, driven, and you want what many men crave but will never have. Pussy galore. No, not the band or that Bond girl.
And you’re such a high achiever that you hanker for the hymen, that hallowed prize that comes before the honey pot. You can never get enough around your insatiable shaft. You would die for it and you, Epstein, did. So, in that way, he killed himself, even if by other hand.
You say he was weak? Yes, weak before the Power.
They must have both. Scylla And Charybdis. Many have fallen beneath the Power. First with mighty thrust and spear, then prostrate and limp with fear.
How far from the Lover, these men, dreaming of Priapus!
The first ever hymn to the hymen. Long over due. No doubt do overs are possible now with modern surgery. Might be important in some parts of the world.
That’s good, hymn to the hymen.
‘Hey meester, you want my seester, she’s a virgin again, uh, I mean she’s a virgin. You can have meester, good young koochie.’
You’ve heard of the asbestos related disease “Mesothelioma”.
When I was in Korea the ladies had a disease called “Me so horny”
Me so hawney.
And…the link;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BlpecFVIq8
The prosecutorial teams were mustered, now robbed of their prize.
“Glib jocks quiz nymph to vex dwarf.” A pangram.
Does anyone have the link to the Epstein court documents? Thank you
https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/U-S-v-Jeffrey-Epstein-Indictment.pdf
https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/U-S-v-Jeffrey-Epstein-Indictment.pdf
https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Giuffre-unseal.pdf
Depositions wouldn’t load for me, but you can try it:
https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/epstein_depositions.pdf
thanks bud
https://nypost.com/2019/08/13/why-was-jeffrey-epsteins-death-on-4chan-before-it-became-public/
Uh oh
Police captain shot in New Haven after engaging suspect in a fierce gun battle outside Yale University. He is alive.
Suspect is on the lam, described as having a goatee and Rastafarian dreadlocks. Apparently there is a related fatality as well, suspect, police captain and DOA all being community members.
What a downer. Spirits were soaring on Sunday when 200,000 Puerto Ricans showed up for the Puerto Rican Day parade. “Pride was on display” according to the local news.
Ok then, as long as its not ‘white pride’ it is perfectly acceptable, encouraged even.
And just yesterday, at city hall, aldermen and immigration ‘advocates’ announced plans for New Haven to declare itself a sanctuary city for peoples from the whole world. Everybody is welcome! Its already a sanctuary city but this is something new, a wide open city like Amsterdam in the 17th century.
Brh
Let me know how much violence occurs at parade.
Knife fights?
” Rastafarian”
BRH,
Do you know what “Rastafarian” means”
Haile Selassie (once the demi-god ruler of Ethiopia)… actual given name at birth was…”Ras Tafari” (or some derivation)
So a Rastafarian is a follower of….
The only problem is, state resources are limited.
There isn’t much money available to support hordes of people coming in “from the whole 3rd world”.
The numbers just don’t add up. Whitey is stretched to the limit supporting the people who are already here “from the whole 3rd world.”
Brh
The argument goes that the more people we have the more brains there will be figuring out how to do more with less. The end result will be a world with lots of people but more stuff to go around and more space for everybody being the end result. Mars and stars my bitches. Don’t let a little starvation get in your way.
It is called magic, so have faith! Remember there are systems of math where 2 + 2 is not 4 so if anybody really gets into your shit tell them you learned your stuff doing Ayahuasca in the Jungles of South America and that you are a disciple of Terence McKenna. Then watch them blink and then say something else to them quick.
This is America, you don’t have to put up with sanity. It is your right. Learn to befuddle and confuse like everyone else.
So then you are definitely against unlimited immigration?
https://youtu.be/fFnOfpIJL0M
‘Somewhere, somehow, somebody
Must have kicked you around some
Who knows, maybe you were kidnapped
Tied up, taken away, and held for ransom
‘Homo Corporatus’ is the dominate species on this planet. Being the dominate species means you are not constrained to adapt, and thus, in Darwinian justice, exist in frail vulnerability to change. And change is the one constant engine driving events. We were never intended to inhabit an eternal ‘locus parenti’ on this planet. The key to survival is sharing…sharing this intended Eden’s creatures with the gift of life. Sharing habitat. Sharing with compassion. Do not be a victim of yourself.
So are you saying that humans need to intentionally remove themselves from the top of the food chain?
No, it’s YOU who’s saying that.
Op-Ed: Why I resigned as an immigration judge
By Ilyce Shugall
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-08-03/immigration-court-judge-asylum-trump-policies
“I have been an immigration lawyer dedicated to fairness and due process for immigrants my entire career. In 2015, convinced that my 18 years of experience as an advocate would make me a good immigration judge, I applied for the job.
“Most immigration judges are former attorneys from the chief counsel’s office of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, former assistant U.S. attorneys or former attorneys from other federal government agencies. Former advocates are appointed less frequently, but I believed in the importance of having judges from varied backgrounds on the bench and therefore applied.
“I made it through the application and vetting process and was appointed to the bench in September 2017. I resigned this March because I could no longer in good conscience work as an immigration judge in the Trump administration.
“… [N]othing prepared me for the unprecedented, unfair and unworkable policies the Trump administration imposed on the courts and the immigration process. … In 2018, Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions and the director of the Executive Office for Immigration Review, which oversees the immigration courts, began imposing quotas and performance metrics that affected the day-to-day function and independence of the judges. We were notified that all judges were expected to complete 700 cases a year to receive a satisfactory performance review. EOIR also published performance metrics for the judges that established specific timelines for adjudication of cases and motions. …
“My colleagues and I felt the impact of the case quotas on our ability to render correct and well-reasoned decisions. My calendar was fully booked with cases through 2021. The judges in San Francisco, where I served, were told we could not schedule any cases in 2022 until our calendars showed that three cases were scheduled every day through the end of 2021. …
“This meant that the judges were forced to schedule at least two cases in one time slot (there being two slots a day) — regardless of whether it was possible to hear two cases in such a short time frame or whether this would allow a judge to consider fully the merits of each case, which often involved determining life or death issues. …
“Shortly after we were told to hear three cases a day, we were also told we could not schedule interpreters for two different languages in each of the morning or afternoon sessions. We were told we needed to match languages or pair English-language cases with other languages, though we had no tools to assist us in coordinating languages.
“The impact of these administrative policies, while bad on judges’ morale and workloads, was worse for the immigrants appearing at court. The pressure to complete cases made me less patient and less able to uphold the constitutional protections required to properly adjudicate cases.”
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Emphasis added. That last sentence should chill every American. The rule of law is not something that’s nice to have; it’s the critical difference between freedom and tyranny. The Fourth Amendment is already a dead letter, especially within the jurisdiction of Customs and Border Patrol — 100 miles inward from the border, which covers nearly 2 out of 3 people in the USA.
If you value your freedom, you should be calling for your government to fund and hire judges, and ensure they have the resources to adjudicate immigrant cases properly. Problems like this may start at the periphery, but they spread to the core in time. When taking shortcuts with the rule of law becomes the norm, sooner or later someone you care about (or you yourself) are going to get cut as well.
Elrond reminds me of my tenth grade French teacher. I didn’t like him much and he didn’t like me either lol. I felt like he specifically tried to create problems and issues. First he made me move from the back of the room to the front of the room right in front of his desk which made me so mad I made sure to roll my eyes at him every day which I know was rude and bad but I just couldn’t get over it. Then he would call me out in class and correct me for every little thing and he was just always trying to embarrass me is how I took it. Then it all went to the next level when he accused me of abusing hall pass privileges. It was kinda true though. I always needed to get out of there and would ask for the hall pass. Then one day I guess I may have been gone for a little too long and stupid me was down the hall from the class room leaving a little note on a bulletin board for someone ;-). And that is when he stepped out into the hallway and saw me and told me to get back to class. Next stop was the principal’s office where he accused me of lying, a bad attitude, and “behavioral problems” and do you know he was able to get me suspended in house for three days. Yeah, in house suspension was sitting in basically what seemed like a broom closet and completing assignments all day on an old computer. One of my friends was so sweet she would sneak in and give me pixie sticks to cheer me up. I kinda liked not having to go to his class and even joked like gee maybe I should get suspended more. And then soon enough, I was right back in that class again.
🙂 Why does NONE of that story surprise me, SSL?
Interesting Elrond, but unfortunately, from my experience, theoretical wonderfulness is not something that can ever be had in a “legal system”. I have spent most of my adult life working with lawyers and judges and have even appointed our municipal judge in my day. It is all political and the judges are all political and some of them work for the left and some for the right, but they all report to a “higher authority” than the people of “the law”.
Recently I met a new friend’s wife who is an immigration lawyer in Newark, NJ. Most of her clients, she told me, were illegals who were caught in criminal activities. Her role, which she is very good and successful at, is working with federal agencies like the FBI to place these people in employment positions just like the movie, “Catch Me If You Can”, where they can work, pay taxes, make a lot of money, and do a better job than some green college kid can do.
There will be no correction, no coming back, no New and Fair systems of government anywhere, they are all too old and too corrupt. Only fools like me continue to fight it all at the small local level and we are not even sure why we do it sometimes. Perhaps because selling out or dreaming just does not cut it for us.
You understand something the vast majority don’t understand yet, Walter: “There will be no correction, no coming back, no New and Fair systems of government anywhere, they are all too old and too corrupt.”
And further, we’re not voting our way out of this. The demographics paint a depressing picture, but folks, closing your eyes won’t change a thing.
Not, I’ll not, carrion comfort, Despair, not feast on thee;
Not untwist — slack they may be — these last strands of man
In me ór, most weary, cry I can no more. I can;
Can something, hope, wish day come, not choose not to be.
— Gerard Manley Hopkins
It’s a true and living prophet of despair you are, Tate. Carrion comfort indeed. In fairness, JHK’s blog sure is the place for you.
That’s a wonderful poem, one of those college anthology poems.
Many of us have paradoxically grown somehow ‘younger’ as we’ve aged physically, giving up the old delusions that we learned in college.
“Ah, but I was so much older then,
I’m younger than that now.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGEIMCWob3U
Or simply a prophet of Truth. You deny the truth it seems Elrond. After all the facts are simple and real. You can hope all you want and yes hope is a good thing, a great things sometimes. But see, blind hope is sort of like blind faith. You know how bad blind faith is now don’t you? I think you may have mentioned how bad it is before? But anyway, what is your hope? Maybe you have more hope in the systems that exist because they tend to favor and validate your viewpoints? Either way it is very true that demographics are destiny and all the current ways of doing things are ultimately unsustainable economically, culturally, politically, etc.
Have you seen this series by the Anatomically Correct Banana about the destruction of Portland, Maine by Catholic Charities and their Tribal allies?
The picture in part 3 is priceless: A Somali holding a sign threatening to leave, “Don’t make us seek refuge elsewhere”.
https://theanatomicallycorrectbanana.com/home/2019/8/10/the-way-life-should-be-vol-iii-with-palms-outstretched
I’ve been following that. The Anatomically Correct Banana is a very good, nay great source of insight into what ails this people.
Walter
What a clear headed post that was.
From somebody based in reality, in the trenches trying to make things work for people on a practical level. No platitudes or BS.
Not a dilettante (like myself, for example)
BRH
>>> This meant that the judges were forced to schedule at least two cases in one time slot (there being two slots a day)
So basically this guy is whining because they wanted him to adjudicate four cases per day?! This isn’t the OJ trial; these are migrants who must show compelling evidence of a “well-founded fear of persecution”. For example, is this person a journalist who wrote articles critical of the regime and received multiple death threats? Were family members executed in cold blood? Stuff like that. Not, “I like to be in America! OK by me in America! Everything free in America!” That doesn’t count, Elrond.
Exscotticus, not sure if you’re lazy or lacking in reading comprehension, but it clearly says three cases per day, not four. I even bolded it. The judges have to double up one out of every two time slots.
And you also reinforce my point, and Judge Shugall’s point, of how dangerous it is to make due process optional. Because of how worked up you get about immigration, you spend your energy criticizing me while cutting your government the very slack that it’ll be tying around your own neck later. Tell me I’m wrong.
>>> Exscotticus, not sure if you’re lazy or lacking in reading comprehension
Right back at you. It says…
>>> This meant that the judges were forced to schedule at least two cases in one time slot (there being two slots a day)
2 x 2 = what Elrond?
I never said make due process optional; I said due process doesn’t require a months-long OJ trial for every migrant. Four per day should be easy. That’s two hours per not counting breaks.
Ever go to traffic court? And sit there all day and watch all the cases? I have. Most are over before they even begin. Here’s how it works: your word versus cop’s word—you lose. That accounts for nearly all the cases.
And from what I’ve read, most migrants present no compelling evidence of a qualifying “well-founded fear of persecution”.
Exscotticus, the effort it costs to get this simple idea across exceeds any likely benefit, but nonetheless I feel compelled.
Per the article, the immigration judges have two time slots per day for hearing cases. The former attorney general, Mr. Sessions, required of the judges that they schedule three cases per day, and fit them into two time slots. 2 x 2 is irrelevant, because it’s not math — the number three was handed down by the attorney general’s office. I know this because I read the article, and understood it.
If someone aspires to have their opinions taken seriously, it behooves them to master such simple facts before making public proclamations. At this point it’s not about the number, it’s about whether you still want to save face. The way to do that is to just take the point, in silence. If you go on complaining about it, you simply make yourself look more the fool.
Finally, my point about due process stands. Erosion of due process is a step on the path to dispensing with due process altogether. Insisting on due process in all circumstances is the best way of taking your own freedom seriously.
>>> Per the article, the immigration judges have two time slots per day for hearing cases.
Elrond, the article says, “three cases were scheduled every day through the end of 2021”. It doesn’t say that Sessions demanded judges take one time slot and divide it in half. The judges could have dispensed with this arbitrary “two time slots per day” and just declared that there will now be “three time slots per day”. If we reasonably assume that each time slot is of equal length, then each case would have consumed 33.3% of the day. But that’s not what happened. Instead, these judges decided to take one of their time slots and divide it in half. So, in the course of a day, one lucky trial would get 50%, and the other two would get 25% each. That’s on the judges—not the AG.
These judges created an artificial crisis by arbitrarily choosing to apportion time the way they did. Moreover, they’ve proven that they can fit two cases into one slot, which means they can do it for the other slot as well.
>>> Insisting on due process in all circumstances is the best way of taking your own freedom seriously.
Show us where there’s a guaranteed 50%-of-the-day time slot for a traffic offense. Do you think traffic court handles just two cases per judge per day?! Obviously some cases merit 5 minutes, while other cases might merit 5 days. It all rather depends on the merits of the case, yes?
Here’s what we do know: Most asylum cases don’t qualify, and over one-third of migrants released while awaiting trial never return. So while you’ve shown amble concern for migrants that are allegedly not getting their due process rights, you’ve shown no concern whatsoever over migrants abusing this process to achieve entry into the country. It’s an incredible injustice that so many migrants are scamming the system and literally changing the demographics of the nation. Sorry but until that’s resolved, due process rights must be adjusted accordingly.
And you find it not at all weird that we have to worry about due process for someone that doesn’t even belong here? Treat someone humanely and decently absolutely. Due process rights? Please! That is for citizens. If you don’t belong here I can’t see any other option but to get you right to that border and put you on the other side. If you operated your personal household the way you expect us too (clearly you never post much about Canada) you would be flat broke and would probably have random Central Americans and Muslims all over your house and no idea who was or was not there. Oh and yes I did make the comparison though I already know that you will say such a comparison is completely out of hand and untenable.
“Due process rights? Please! That is for citizens. If you don’t belong here I can’t see any other option but to get you right to that border and put you on the other side. “
I think you can possibly take that view once you’ve relieved yourself of your obligations under international law, by withdrawing from international refugee protocols by which you are currently bound (and I realise you would be happily do that, but you can’t pre-empt it, so that’s what you should be pushing for if that’s what you want).
It works both ways, of course. And none of us knows what the future will bring for our children.
And you don’t need to ask me if I oppose unlimited immigration and open borders because I’ve told you that a dozen times.
*would happily*
That’s good advice Alba. Next question for all candidates. Do you support the withdrawal of the US from all international refugee and migration pacts/treaties? Yes, the tables could easily turn on us since nothing is a guarantee you are right. Who do you believe would take us in? Mexico wouldn’t. Canada won’t. I bet borders would become super important and protected to the death if millions of White Americans or maybe White Scots were suddenly searching for a new home.
GreenAlba, I’m perfectly happy with the USA meeting its International treaty obligations and providing these migrants with their due process rights.
All five minutes of it.
” I bet borders would become super important and protected to the death if millions of White Americans or maybe White Scots were suddenly searching for a new home.”
Borders are already super important, as far as I’m concerned. I see no conflict whatever between secure borders and a humane asylum policy.
‘White Scots’?! I don’t think you’ll find Scotland withdrawing itself from its international obligations. You must do as you choose, but it will have repercussions beyond asylum, I imagine.
What do you mean exactly regarding repercussions beyond asylum? Surely its possible to pick and choose what international treaties we want to follow? Or are you saying that if the US doesn’t live up to its commitments regarding refugee resettlement then other countries may become less cooperative with the US on other issues in response?
I’m simply saying it will change who you are as a nation and how you are perceived among other civilised nations. I don’t have a crystal ball, so I don’t know how that would pan out and in what ways.
We all have an opinion of China based on the way it behaves, which we mostly don’t admire. Nobody much trusts them. Just as an example (not a direct comparison because the issues are different).
Like I said, I see no conflict between having strong borders and a humane asylum system. The bit in between is mostly administration.
Exscotticus thinks the admin should be limited to five minutes per person because he puts more emphasis on ‘process’ than on ‘due’, but it’s still an administrative problem. And if it’s proving costly, because so many people see you as their saviour, then perhaps we should direct some UN charity in your direction, in the way that might happen in a country hit by a standard tsunami. If migration is a global problem, then the solutions, or at least responsibilities, should at least partly be global, perhaps.
Although I know you hate the word ‘global’, obviously.
If only we could get the CO2 emissions from your consumption to stay within your borders and only affect your country, then a lot of people would be happy. Perhaps you could arrange that, in the interests of nationalism? But I suspect you are quite happy for those borders to be entirely open.
>>> Exscotticus thinks the admin should be limited to five minutes per person because he puts more emphasis on ‘process’ than on ‘due’
No, GreenAlba, I think it should be limited because, statistically speaking, the majority have no case, and claim asylum as if entering a free raffle or lottery. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain by lying. Many are released into the USA while their “case” is adjudicated, at which time they ignore the summons to return and join the ranks of illegals.
Of the 2,498,375 aliens the United States permitted to remain free pending trial over the last 20 years, 37.3 percent of this number — 918,098 — never came to court.
It’s an insane process that’s leading to cultural genocide.
“Of the 2,498,375 aliens the United States permitted to remain free pending trial over the last 20 years, 37.3 percent of this number — 918,098 — never came to court.”
Maybe they met your ilk and decided to head home after all.
People of color my ass. I’m a proud Guinea-Wop-Dago American of Italian ancestry . At the end of the summer after being outside most every day I’m darker than Lena Horne ever was. Am I a person of color?
Are you more proud of being an American or of being of Italian descent or are both qualities equal in your mind?
He reject the concept of race. Thinks it’s just skin color. So with his suntan he’s just as Hispanic as a Hispanic or as Black as a light skinned Mulatto.
Goofy stuff from an otherwise smart guy.
Ah ok I see. For a moment I was thinking he was trying to get special rights (people of color rights) for being Italian. It is strange to me that with all that we have learned about DNA that indicates that the most slightest of variations can create real differences between people and then of course species, etc., that people would believe that race as we understand it is unimportant. It’s critically important based on what we have learned it seems to me. Notice too how the same people will emphasize the sameness of DNA. Like, oh well we are 98% genetically related to chimpanzees so look how similar we are to them. Well yes, this is true in one way. But that 2% makes all the difference in the world so shouldn’t that be considered important?
Yes, it’s as if one was charting a course in a Starship and then planning to hibernate for the hundred years it takes to get there. If one was a fraction of a millimeter off in the setting (if done that way) or one/thousandth off in one’s calculations, you would end up millions of miles or even light years away from one’s proposed destination.
It’s the same with the genetic code or genotype. A small change at that level leads to a big change in the phenotype or the level of expression.
Given the nature of the Bell Curve which describes the range of IQ: a small change in the mean (the top of the Bell) leads to far fewer people of great ability, with IQs in the 130’s and above. This will be exactly the result of mixing with even light skinned Hispanics. In other words, the no big deal is actually a very big deal since any Civilization depends on people like that, ultimately for its very existence and prosperity.
Wow that’s a very interesting analogy and sums up a complex topic with ease. After you put it like that I can really see how its as serious as life and death.
Vlad, where the fuck did I ever say I rejected the concept of race? I’m white Caucasian I suppose. Grandparents from the Alps in the north of Italy whatever that tells ya. Sometimes I really can’t figure where you are coming from.
A little story. Around 1980, during the States push for affirmative employment some state arsehole came poking around the firehouse asking to see how many Hispanics we had on the payroll. Well we had two, A Garcia and a Rodriguez. Thing was they were white as snowflakes 1st generation Spaniards. He met them and they talked his ear off in Spanish. Real Spanish not that PR shit talk. State inspector was satisfied and signed off on the city. Question for you. Were Garcia and Rodriguez White or Hispanic?
I remember you saying as much. That you don’t see race, boasting of your non-White friends. This kind of vacillating is very common btw. At least you’re not a committed Non-Racist or Anti-White White. Glad to have you aboard – at least for today!
Didn’t know that. It’s the American Creed, which is very powerful, thus excusable. My last sifu told us that he was told to go to the back of the bus, growing up in the South — he was Sicilian. He thought it was funny. His politics were right of Attila the Hun. Those who are secure in their heritage belong to us in the end.
I’m an American, born and raised an American. I just stated that my ancestry is Italian. That really has nothing to do with my nationality.
Gotchya, it makes sense that you are proud of your heritage as you should be. But in the greater scheme of things that is what is wrong with our “melting pot”. I am not saying that about you or your beliefs particularly, but there are so many people with dual loyalties that it is undermining the social fabric of our country. I noticed when I had to go to Baton Rouge the other day that all of the newly arrived Hispanic illegals (sorry but I just assume they are because so many really are) fly their countries flags on the rearview mirrors. In the stores I hear them happily speaking Spanish. Why should I be made to feel like a stranger in the country I was born in and that my family has lived in for centuries?
“Why should I be made to feel like a stranger in the country I was born in and that my family has lived in for centuries?”
Is that what the native Indians said, as they died?
Yes, we conquered them. Woe to the Vanquished!
“Yes, we conquered them. Woe to the Vanquished!”
Is that from the Sermon on the Mount or the Ten Commandments? I forget.
SSL
You nailed it! I do not understand people here calling them selves hyphenated names. We are Americans, tied to the flag, the anthem and the liberty given to us by our Founding Fathers.
If someone wants to be a Black, go where the Blacks are, Africa. I will guarantee you won’t like it. If you want to be a Mexican, go home to Mexico.
This is America. Act like it. Those two athletes need to have their medals stripped and thrown off the team. Someone needs to tell them what being an American is all about.
The worst are Progressive wealthy white elitists that populate the Democratic Party. They need to go to hell!
Thank you John. In a true nation there is no hyphenation. A Nation is actually a family, but the modern idea of the nation-state is of course very far off from that reality. And yes, in a nation that adheres rigidly to Civic Nationalist policies there can be no hyphens or multiple loyalties. Of course as you know, it would be best to align Nation with Race. But one step at a time and a time for everything. In our current predicament I do view most White Elites, among others, as being dangerous to our collective survival as you do.
Italy? Sorry dude that’s Europe. Europe is white. White is bad.
Like Rosanna Arquette, you must publicly denounce your whiteness. Something along the lines of. “I’m sorry I was born white and privileged. It disgusts me. And I feel so much shame.”
Like actress Eva Longoria, so proud of her mestizo heritage. DNA 25% non White.
” Am I a person of color?”
Saint,
Permit me…I cannot help myself…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R9Qiej-Tqo
I’m reading a book called Hitler’s Secret Army, an account of traitors, spies and saboteurs in the UK during WW2.
You won’t be surprised to know that a fair number of the British aristocracy were out and out traitors, fully on board with the Nazi agenda, actively conspiring and working against the Allied war effort.
Neither will you be surprised to find out that there were two tiers of justice and penalties for such behavior. People low down on the societal totem pole were interned, imprisoned and hanged for such stuff, their aristocratic betters brought in for tea and a gentlemanly discussion, their school ties and prestige and title and social position getting them off.
That this stuff isn’t cricket old boy shouldn’t have required a lot of elaboration, that it was delusional besides should have been obvious. Counter-factual history of course is as the name suggests, but there’s good ole common sense to consider, the idea of the Nazis having a lot of time for the toffs, the lords and ladies keeping their positions and privileges in a National Socialist regime downright laughable given the number of loyal Germans needing rewards for risking their lives. Those estates and country houses would have been irresistible, those bank accounts equally so, just begging to be divvied up.
What’s this got to do with anything? Just this, history may not repeat but it sure does rhyme.
They’re already setting the template for the all the multitudinous Russiagate frauds and malfeasances by letting Comey off the hook, declining to prosecute for his revealing memos with classified information. That they should have been so solicitous with Flynn but that’s neither here nor there.
The British aristocrats were societal and ruling class insiders and as such got special dispensation. So it will be with many if not all American Deep State ruling class insiders who did their patriotic duty, putting themselves at risk of prosecution by bending and breaking laws to get that charlatan Trump off the podium. It was selflessness and self-sacrifice, ya see, not anything sinister nor, heaven forfend, criminal behind all this. That’s what the narrative will be.
If necessary, legal justifications and reasoning and worm-holes will be conjured. They’ll say things like “insufficient evidence”, they’ll say there was “no criminal intent”, or they’ll say there was honest belief that Putin had tilted election results and that Trump himself was bent. Purity of mind and motive in other words. See, if you really try you can come up with all sorts of stuff.
As to Epstein, sometimes things are exactly what they look like, so tell me, what does this look like? Does this look like a rub-out? This was an exceedingly convenient death given the number of wealthy and connected people the deceased partied with.
The American ruling class may let one another off the hook but it showed its debility by conducting a years long sham investigation into sloppily and laughably concocted allegations of Russian collusion and after all that time and money coming up goose-eggs, the target of their malice walking off unharmed.
The American msm did likewise spending who knows how much energy trying to whip up fervor for Trump’s resignation. Didn’t work, didn’t happen, Trump is still stinkin’ up the joint.
Powerful foreign rivals take the measure of the United States peerage, but so do people at home in the lower rungs of American society. This is a social order that wobbles, the American aristocracy showing daily its its weakness, its delusion, it’s incapacity for decision-making.
They tried mightily, or maybe not so mightily. Trump is still there. They may not prosecute the malefactors, those being people like themselves, of the same class. But, in the end, the malefactors failed. That is where it’s at. Trump still rules.
Of course not. Do you blame them for trying to save England from the Globalists? Far sighted people on both sides of the Channel and the Atlantic saw what was coming even back then. You (plural) have all but destroyed us, but you will share our fate. That’s the part you don’t get.
Of course you conflate their patriotic Elite with our Globalist Elite – as if rebellion is the main thing – and not what one is rebelling against. You’re all for Patriotism now – now that you are in control. Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman would understand perfectly of course.
Pulling the old switcheroo, adepts abound in this comment section. Was Hitler in fact the reincarnation of Haman, of Amalek, of Esau? Facts have nothing to do with it. Yes, he was, heh-heh.
Hitler was a mentally ill, short Austrian artists that learned in WW1 to hate the Allies that humiliated his homeland. He was a drug addicted narcissist that acquired power by pulling off early successes inside Germany and the early parts of the war. He scared off the cowards of 1938 with his brazen behavior. He totally believed in himself and would not listen to folks more knowledgeable than he was. That is what eventually destroyed him.
He almost got into a artist’s school after the war, but he could not draw the human form, so he was rejected. Could be part of the problem.
Well you know there is that whole issue of great thinkers being close to almost crazy by nature. It’s something to do with creativity and intellectual capacity that can make one seem insane to those around them. From everything I have read he seemed to be very intelligent with great foresight and he was able to persuade and convince obviously. Brazen? Not sure about you but I like that. Sure there is a time and a place and people make mistakes but I just don’t see him as the evil wicked man that he has been made out to be. They say that history is written by the conquerors. So yeah of course the Allies were totally awesome and correct. And then after we defeated Germany new enemies popped up just like that and the reasons for war continued. By the way, Stalin killed like over a hundred million people but it is always Hitler Hitler Hitler. Why?
Easy SSL
Because he lost. Stalin was a bigger SOB than Hitler was.
Mein Kampf included his plan for the eradication of large parts of European people for the purpose of resettlement by the chosen Germanic peoples.
Sidebar
During the Middle Ages, Christians were not supposed to practice usury, ie the charging of interest with money changing. The Jewish folks had no prohibition against it and became the bankers of Europe. I would imagine Hitler did not appreciate so much fiscal power in that group and did something about it, in his mind. It is what happens when a society becomes too secular and forgets about its morality. Kinda like the US today.
usury, ie the charging of interest with money changing. – JAZ
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John, your definition of usury is off a touch. Usury is the practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.
Lending money without interest is charity, which is fine in charitable circumstances. I lent my daughter a chunk of money to help pay off her mortgage faster and she paid it back to me without interest. Because she’s family I took the hit in terms of the opportunity cost.
Why would anyone do that for a non-charitable cause?
Muslims have to have special mortgages because they get their knickers in a twist about the perfectly normal fact of opportunity cost as well. Someone’s got to absorb it, in the absence of entirely charitable lending.
I’m not an economist, clearly, but some things are just common sense.
“I’m not an economist, clearly, but some things are just common sense.”
Alba,
I believe that charging interest on a loan is contraindicated by the Islamic religion.
…it does not have to conform with common sense;
In fact, being based on religious edict, it doesn’t have to make sense at all….
I don’t think we’re disagreeing on that, are we, EF? I was pretty much saying their view defies common sense.
One of the few occasions I agree with Green Alba. Nobody’s going to lend money at zero interest… well, at least not in a sane world. It appears money is being lent out now at not only zero interest rates but at negative interest rates. Sum ting wong.
SSL on Hitler:
“… people make mistakes but I just don’t see him as the evil wicked man that he has been made out to be.”
Wow. You’ve really been scoffing Janos’ Kool-AId, huh.
“One of the few occasions I agree with Green Alba. ”
Gawd, Tate, I hope a puppy didn’t die somewhere. 🙂
Was he mentally ill? That’s ‘problematic.’ “Hitler” is whoever you want him to be. “Hitler” is a projection of the zeitgeist. What scares the Tribe is that “Hitler” could be your next-door neighbor. Hitler is just the expression of what’s “bad for the Jews.”
JohnAZ,
Yes Christians were above money grubbing so they left this dirty practice to the low level Jews. It was a low status job meant for the peasants. Money was dirty, so let the dirty Jews handle it. Dirty money, dirty Jews. All in the same.
This ended up backfiring as over time, Jews became really good with money.
Yes, exactly. Whoever controls the banks controls everything. Our problem is that we participate in the dirty system and thus allow ourselves to be controlled in this way. Germany tried to get out from under the thumb of the international bankers and abracadabra WWII. Removing the international bankers from power and dismantling the international financial system is necessary to regaining our freedom as a distinct people. As it is their agenda is dependent upon our defeat.
“Money was dirty, so let the dirty Jews handle it. ”
Some would say typical Christian hypocrisy.
And the Jews were barred from other occupations, by those same hypocritical Christians, so they had fewer options.
And the biggest hypocrisy of all (unless they were just completely devoid of brain cells) was that the reason they hated the Jews was because the Jews, according to the myth, killed Christ. And yet if Christ hadn’t been killed there wouldn’t be such a thing as Christianity. No cross, no sacrifice, no redemption.
Stupidity or hypocrisy? Maybe both.
“Money was dirty, so let the dirty Jews handle it. ”
So in a society where they just used conch shells as a medium of exchange, were conch shells dirty?
Humans are strange creatures.
“Of course not. Do you blame them for trying to save England from the Globalists? Far sighted people on both sides of the Channel and the Atlantic saw what was coming even back then. “
Utter nonsense, Janos. The reason the aristos welcomed the fascists was because old money was beginning to be replaced by new and they felt threatened. They were interested in keeping their status – they didn’t give a flying f**k about ‘saving England’, except for the kind of England (and Empire) that benefited them. Not that there weren’t aspiring fascists up and down society.
Viscount Rothermere was cheering them on in the Daily Mail:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-exqe4yL4CrU/We4QYJWjiZI/AAAAAAAABwQ/0Vswn19zZ9orUxTOUDE9iS8hyiKLr6uUwCLcBGAs/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Rothermere%2B-%2BHurrah%2Bfor%2Bthe%2BBlackshirts%2521.jpg
GA
Just a question.
The Royals are from German ancestry from way back. In WW1&2, any feeling of conflict of interests?
JAZ
Well, Edward VIII and his American missus were major fans of Hitler, weren’t they? But he was sent off to the Bahamas when his Nazi sympathies were suspected, where he could do no harm.
We have to remember that ‘German’ and ‘Nazi’ weren’t synonymous, of course, so just having German ancestry didn’t make anyone necessarily pro-Nazi. Hitler wasn’t to everyone’s taste in the German aristocracy either – or indeed in the armed forces.
But I think it was difficult for some of Queen Victoria’s descendants to find themselves on opposing sides, especially for the first war. But they were in different countries and remained loyal to those, as far as I know.
And the Windsors had chosen to be Windsors, rather than the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, specifically because their German ancestry irked people during WWI.
Why nonsense? Old money has always been threatened by new money. Was it any different before WWII? Throughout the 19th century? The answer is no, they saw something different.
I have read that after WWI the old money lost so many of its heirs that there was actually a power shift because of lack of those to continue the lines. I shall have to revisit that and see if there is more of interest there.
The British aristocracy was threatened by the process of collapse of a rigid class system beginning after the first world war and saw fascism as a way of reinstating and/or maintaining that class system. The class system in the UK was in no real danger before that time.
Weren’t they already being ruined by property taxes as per the show Downton Abbey?
You turned against your own best people! Of course they sided with those who admired them. And no man admired the British Aristocracy more than Hitler. Churchill despised his own Class and Nation – eager to create a place in the New Order. Smart? Sure. Admirable? You have to ask?
“You turned against your own best people! ”
You mean the inbreds that Volodya talks about? Mostly you’re talking about the descendants of the Norman robber barons.
Utter nonsense, Janos. The reason the aristos welcomed the fascists was because old money was beginning to be replaced by new and they felt threatened. == GreenAlba
You nailed it, GreenAlba!
British, opposite to Americans, very well knew what Hitler was, but after the war they made a deal with the devil, being threatened by mighty American businesses that have not experienced the difficulties of the war on their territory.
They allowed the Nazi Bormann money to be legalized in their transnational corporations, which eventually lead to the erosion of the British society.
Taxes!
Bernie and Liz are going to tax the hell out of the rich and are going to give that capital to all of us middle class folks in the form of forgiven loans and free healthcare.
People, you are not that stupid.
The Elite are going to hire lawyers and get out of the taxes, or they are going to be ex patriots. You, the middle class, are going to pay those taxes or the deficit will just be added to the Debt.
These Democratic jerks are bullshitting all of us to get into power period. Do not be a sucker.
Is anybody so naïve, so stupid JohnAZ that they really think that those who rule ever pay even close to their “fair share” or even any share at all? Does any one believe that anything could ever force them to pay for the system that they already and totally own and control? Sure they have to divert some of the take to pay for those that keep the serfs in line and prevent uprisings, but certainly they have the power and the control to take all that they want and more.
Even in times where uprising can be manufactured to take down small groups of the uber-wealthy elite, power is always returned to where it gravitates to and that is the greedy bastards at the top.
Many call Faith a dream, a lie, or a great manipulation, but I assure you all that there can be no peace and no true value or gain playing in the system that those who here rule set up for us. Work the system while you can, do not fall for the carrot on the stick and find true peace and value where it really and where it always was.
And
Never ever vote for a Liberal that is trying to take away even more from all of us.
Tax the rich my butt!
>>> People, you are not that stupid.
Do you how they first sold income tax? Yep—we’ll tax the rich! And they did. And then they taxed everyone…
Sadly, people are that stupid.
JohnAZ
The key impost tat is being proposed if 1/10th of a penny on every dollar of speculative financial transactions – i.e. Wall Street. That’s an exquisitely tiny amount on any transaction and is significantly less than the brokerage (commission for being the ‘bag man’) the transactor is charged. This is not uncommon – in 2011 there were 40 countries that made use of FTT, together raising $38 billion. If these ‘elites’ want to participate in the market, then even being an ex-pat won’t allow them to escape such a tax. Of course, given historical experience in the US, they would lobby hard for favorable ‘exemptions’ and given the blatant corruption in Washington DC, they’d possibly succeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_transaction_tax
Capital gains are already taxed. It’s 15% for most, and 20% for the big dogs. The brokers who live off the transaction fees pay income tax at even higher rates. Everyone is already being taxed, and at a greater rate than the traditional “tithe” of yore.
What you want is yet another tax on top of existing taxes. You basically want to plunder wealth. All this does is encourage investors to go elsewhere.
Exactly where would they (you & me?) go?
Also, you don’t understand how the FTT system works. In other jurisdictions, there’s a quid pro quo with an offsetting in personal income tax on the lower 50% (or so) of withholding tax payers (probably you), which would surely be welcomed?
Much of the ‘Capital gains’ in the US is A DISGUISE for what most other places would call income, through the ‘carried interest’ rort.
I’ve suggested it before, but go read any of David Cat Johnston’s trilogy:
‘Perfectly Legal’
‘Free Lunch’ and
‘The Fine Print’ if you want to understand just how colander-like the US Tax Code is for those earning over $250,000. It’s an embarrassing joke, especially when you get to the ACTUALLY WEALTHY.
>>> Much of the ‘Capital gains’ in the US is A DISGUISE for what most other places would call income
No doubt the wealthy can live entirely off capital gains. So what? They’re still investing their excess wealth and taking risk. It’s nothing like a steady paycheck.
You either understand the value of such capital or not. You either want to encourage people to invest or not. You don’t encourage it by plundering it for your social welfare agenda.
Based on your defense of the wealthy & their ability to disguise actual income as ‘capital gains’ (& pay half the proper rate of tax on it), I’m guessing you’re in the 99% percentile (top1%) end of the income spectrum, right?
Now, that’s a household income of $421,000 (outside of Connecticut, where it rises to $700,000).
At the $421,000, you’d be paying approx. $137,000, an average of 32.5%.
in the 2012 election, Mitt Romney’s (very limited) tax information relief showed he paid 14.3%. Aren’t you aggrieved that you don’t have the same opportunities to screw the system over, or do you APPLAUD a multi-billionaire who minimizes taxes as ‘smart’? Even though he made an obscene fortune off the GM bailaout in 2008/09 AND shipped thousands of jobs offshore once he’d (Bain Capital) collected his ‘bounty’?
I just don’t get why you people vote so stunningly against your own best interests!
>>> Based on your defense of the wealthy & their ability to disguise actual income as ‘capital gains’
There’s no “disguise” or anything sinister or illegal. Our tax laws are designed to encourage investment. Do you not see the social benefits of getting those with wealth to willingly invest it and not hoard it or use black markets? How do you think people get loans for cars and homes and to start their own businesses? How do you think corporations get loans to innovate and grow? Has no one ever explained this to you at school? So sad. So sad you were taught nothing but eat-the-rich and hate-whitey…
Tens of millions of average Americans invest their wealth. They will live off that when they retire. Sinister?
>>> in the 2012 election, Mitt Romney’s (very limited) tax information relief showed he paid 14.3%. Aren’t you aggrieved
No—assuming it’s legit. If Romney invested his wealth and incurred losses, then he would likely pay less than the expected 15% for capital gains.
Romney is a job creator. How many jobs have you created? All you know how to do is raid and plunder wealth. You have no idea how to create it.
>>> I just don’t get why you people vote so stunningly against your own best interests!
How is it in our best interests to have Lefties take our wealth by force for their favored groups and pet projects? Here’s what happens when idiots and not markets call the shots…
Obama clean energy loans leave taxpayers in $2.2 billion hole
Thanks, Obama!
I said nothing against investment, only that the appropriate level of tax is often avoided by these ‘job-creators’ (that’s a laugh, too).
“Bain’s management of Cambridge Industries was chronicled in a June story in The New York Times, which noted that Bain reaped over $10 million from the plastic manufacturer even as it went through bankruptcy, wiping out some of the other investors. According to a 2008 Detroit Free Press story, which is only available for purchase, Cambridge’s bankruptcy meant more than 1,000 workers lost their jobs.”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gm-bailed-out-bain-capital-romney-profits_n_2069034
Off topic but I find this graphic of interest
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranking-the-top-100-websites-in-the-world/
Oh Canada’s contribution? No 8. PORNHUB which I think if the site was not blocked in China would be No. 1 above the whole bunch of them. Everyone knows Al Gore invented the internet. The internet was invented for PORN. I saw it on the news.
Russian footprint in Epstein’s “suicide”
The scandal surrounding Epstein continues to gain momentum and now its size is beginning to conform to my hypothesis that Epstein’s arrest is a rein that Trump threw over the US intelligence community after it organized a series of sabotages in Russia, including the fire on Losharik, which was an assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin.
The most interesting thing is that the dead Epstein caused a greater panic in the camp of the Democrats than the living. In any case, the nonsense that the democratic media carry today, trying to link Trump to Epstein, is more delusional than the nonsense of yesterday.
Moreover, this nonsense is chaotic in nature, as if Hillary hadn’t sent regular directives to the media today, and every TV presenter, following yesterday’s directives, corrects them in connection with the newly discovered circumstances to the best of his wits.
With one exception, yesterday’s Joe Scarborough tweeted that the Russians were behind Epstein’s death.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/joe-scarborough-epsteins-suicide-is-russian
It seems that this tweet was not another provocation on the topic “Russians are always to blame for everything,” and that Joe accidentally heard something not intended for the ears of propagandists and let slip, and now the propaganda machine is carefully erasing the consequences of his slip.
Joe Scarborough never hid the fact that by virtue of his marriage to the daughter of Zbigniew Brzezinski, he was admitted to narrower circles than the rest of his ilk, but in this case he was clearly frightened and was trying in every possible way to belittle the significance of this circumstance.
https://twitter.com/TPMLiveWire/status/1160930815037124609
And all this makes me assume that reports that Epstein is alive and well, but that he was transferred to a witness protection program, after staging his suicide, is the most likely explanation for objective reality, including the dead Epstein’s ability to cause more panic among democrats, than Epstein alive.
But then the videos that I initially took humorously began to disappear from YouTube, including the video about the aforementioned tweet of Joe Scarborough.
And yesterday, weighed down by thoughts about the reasons for the disappearance of several videos that I listened to the day before yesterday, including the video that Joe Scarborough’s wife, Mika Brzezinski, at the suggestion of her mother, the granddaughter of the Czechoslovak President Benes, became a member of one of the ritual satanic masses, I turn on the TV and stumble upon Andrei Malakhov (37:25), who, in connection with the July 27 killing of a Russian girl who apparently participated in Epstein’s events, announces the performance of a famous Russian pimp, whose name was mentioned not only quite officially in the case of Mikhail Prokhorov’s arrest related to the provision of pimp services to high-ranking pedophiles in Courchevel, but also in the disappeared video, where it was described as a supplier of live goods for Epstein, and, as I understand it, girls from Russia in these masses were going through tests much worse than Mika Brzezinski, and it was the video of these tests that were found on the computer of Huma Abedin by FBI agents, after being presented to the FBI Director Comey, that forced the latter to resume the Hillary Clinton case ten days before the 2016 election, which actually determined their result, according to the aforementioned Bastinda, great and terrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEhhenaIwm8
Brzezinski,- that monster.
I’m still waiting for AOC to blame Epstein’s death on climate change.
She did: Trump + Russians = Climate Change in World Politics.
Name something ‘climate change’ isn’t responsible for.
REPATHA THE HEART MED
I saw a TV or you tube commercial for Repatha, a useless and ineffective drug for treating high cholesterol.
The ad shows a fat-bellied dad, a land whale,[with a padded shirt?]
at a wedding, bellying up to the buffet table to increase his girth,
telling us about how he takes Repatha.
the wedding of his mudshark daughter.
I know the commercial you mean. I was so nonplussed by the coal burning that I didn’t notice what the drug was.
It’s real function is to turn men into fat cucks who give their daughters to Negroes.
fat cucks who give their daughters to Negroes – Janos
============
Google Negro. It will tell you the term is Dated and Offensive.
Like I said yesterday, for the next little while we are stuck with People of Color.
Repatha opens the heart. Helps you to say POC and not the other offensive terms I like to say. I need Repatha!
If only I could be Alba and Elrond’s agent! I’d have them in a commercial with Alba doing the talking and Elrond just doing that special smile that pc males do. The scene would be at their daughter’s wedding to a Black. She’d say how Elrond had trouble accepting it until he started on Repatha. If Elrond isn’t fat enough he can wear a fat suit. We could make so much money together but they rebuff me at every turn!
Some dipstick came to our front door back in the 60s and, in the course of pushing whatever he was pushing, said to my mother, ‘but would you want your daughter to marry a black man?’.
My mother was a simple soul, a dyed-in-the-wool conservative and the antithesis of ‘wokeness’, but she simply answered that there were a whole lot of white men she wouldn’t want her daughter to marry.
Seems as sensible an answer now as it was then.
Your mother knew not to stir up controversy. Also, not to get drawn in by a flim-flam man selling encyclopedia sets. Britannica? Thus, she put up a stiff resistance to the cheeky whelp. Also, she probably secretly feared that you might indeed marry a black man, hence her avoidance of a direct answer.
Tate
You persist in being led by your ideological nose.
The guy wasn’t selling anything other than political ideology. Racism, that is.
And I wasn’t there – my mother told me afterwards.
Also there was no controversy to avoid. There wasn’t anyone else there except her Christian conscience, which didn’t include racism as its bedrock.
You have no idea what my mother ‘probably’ thought because she was the antithesis of everything you stand for.
Phew! The situation is heating up in Hong Kong.
I think a crackdown will be coming soon.
The trick for Xi is to turn the screws on Hong Kong without any iconic, embarrasing photos like a lone protester standing in front of a tank from leaking out, which would be bad for Brand China. Expect the PLA to be more discreet this time, and to better control the flow of information, if that’s possible in this age of smartphones.
Brh
And now, kids, is time for your homework!
I want you all tonight rent a movie “Eyes Wide Shut” and watch that probably best piece of cinematography in the last 30 years.
Tomorrow, you’ll have to take a test on your comprehending of current events based on that movie, specifically answer the question:
What was the profession in “real life” of the leader of the lodge presented in Stanley Kubrick’s masterpiece?
One of the Clintons?
So its come out now that that there was ‘screaming and shrieking’ coming from Epstein’s cell the morning of his death:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-death-shrieking-heard-jail-cell-morning-he-died-metropolitan-correctional-center/
..and also there were 2 people responsible for Epstein that AM. One correctional officer who was filling in for another, and a “non-correctional officer”
?? WTF
you can not simply for a federal facility without an enormous amount of vetting, particularly any secured federal base/prison, etc. No way. So who is the 2nd person, a hitman??
*you can not simply work for* .. correction there
Metropolitan is federal?
yep, its overseen by the Bureau of Prisons.
Thanks! Somebody got some ‘splainin’ to do
NEW HAMPSHIRE
Bernie Sanders: 21%
Joe Biden: 15%
Elizabeth Warren: 12%
Pete Buttigieg: 8%
Kamala Harris: 7%
Little Jane
Breadline Bernie’s got the ‘Keeper of the Crypt’ contest sewed up,
The one qualification is you have to be born in the 1930s.
The 1930s for krissake!
Old Sleepy Joe doesn’t make the cut.
Brh
Sleepy Joe will be in “a place for dad” before the election rolls around!
Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who beats Trump by 8 points in a one on one general election race. That is well outside the margin of error. Trump, having started a trade war which has hit us consumers hard with the Trump tax. China is determined to win this trade war and we will be the ones to pay the Trump trade tax.
It will probably be another interesting election.
I am not hit hard by anything from China. I don’t believe or hear from anybody from my neighbors, or even my state that China is hitting anybody hard.
? maybe. We’ll see.
What about those farmers? Know where the $15 Billion bailout came from? Hint: it wasn’t China paying, just like Mexico never paid a prso for the wall that never got built. We have Obama’s fence.
Iowa Farmers Stick With Trump Despite Trade War
In any case, I don’t think Iowa farmers are calling the shots as far as Trump is concerned. He’s not going to lose his primary, and they’re not going to vote for someone who supports taxpayer-funded healthcare for illegals. Double-dealing flip-flopper Sanders is desperately trying to claim he’s against open borders, yet he promises open borders in all but name.
Not yet, anyway. even Trump accidentally admitted, yesterday, that the tariffs DO affect American consumers.
Sure they will. Eventually. As a nation we’re addicted to cheap imports, all made possible by cheap labor and unequal labor laws.
Since when is breaking an addiction painless?
As someone who constantly professes to be a world citizen helping the plight of the unfortunate and so on, I’m amazed you want to perpetuate a system that encourages child labor, slave labor, unsafe working conditions, etc.
CFNers, you need to quit posting about you know who! I’ve polished off nearly a pint of Wild Turkey, shot after shot; I’m under the table typing this … send help!
Brh
“I’ve polished off nearly a pint of Wild Turkey”
lightweight 🙂
That’s what I thought. A pint? shit what is it noon time?
This is 108 proof, top shelf,
Not the 80 proof, which is for wusses.
I’ve heard that Hitler was a crack shot with a Mosin-Nagant until he was a runner and got wounded.
Rip you have no mercy.
The warden, Lamine N’ Diaye, and two guards are being removed.
Somalian? Senegalese? WTF!
Bechufuckinanaland?
maybe he was the second “non-correctional officer” at the time of Epstein’s death.
I wouldn’t be shocked by that, LOL
Teenage girls go to remote part of Moroccan Mountains (much like where the two female hikers were raped and murdered) to build a ROAD – the dream of all teenage girls. They’re just as tough as any man after all. Like any teenage girls might in the summer, they began to build the ROAD dressed in shorts.
https://www.rt.com/news/466230-belgian-girls-morocco-beheading-threats/
One government official, without overtly sympathizing with the Threats, said, Since when do European Construction Workers work in shorts? What utter foolishness on all levels. Apparently most of the girls are still there. What kind of parents would approve something like this?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1475855/off-grid-parents-whose-child-weed-live-on-this-morning-beg-strangers-for-100k-to-fund-their-hippy-lifestyle/
those type of ppl
Pete
Reminds me of Paul Theroux’s book ‘Mosquito Coast’
Another (fictional) family who traveled to C America in search of utopia. It never ends up good, in the case of the family you site most likely Gringos chopped up by natives and fed to the crocs.
Brh
You got to feel sorry for those little ones tho.
They’ve never been vaccinated, and the parents want to bring them to live in a disease infested jungle.
Brh
yep
watched a related vid there about another family of “free range” kids.. the mom is completely disinterested about her unschooled kids learning anything whatsoever.. algebra.. who needs it? all the history of the world.. for what? … Fitzgerald, Hemingway.. why wouldya wanna read that?
LOL
Here’s a reasonably long ‘town hall’ style interview with Marianne Williamson. Say what you like and poo-poo her crappy poll numbers, she has some seriously good things to say, for those who will bother hearing her.
Okay, all you sad, angry, twisted right-wing haters…have at it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz767MmCKqc
Angry, twisted left wingers have it in for her too.
She’s making other Dem candidates look bad, and that can’t stand.
Bth
They do not need any help at all looking bad.
Majella
I think your Right wingers you are addressing are all united in one objective, to block the oncoming rush of neo liberal takeover that is happening in the country being supported by international forces, and the decline of moral compass that the country is experiencing. If Williamson would renounce the Liberal nuts that have almost taken over, she would be listened to. I believe from listening to her in the debates she does not like the underhanded Progressives any more than we, the Right side, do. This should be interesting this next year.
JohnAZ
First, apologies for ‘Okay, all you sad, angry, twisted right-wing haters…have at it!’ which was intended to be tongue-in-cheek but came across as plain wankerish.
As to this perceived onslaught against all you et al hold dear, in my view, you’re worried about a paper tiger. There’s a vociferous but ultimately tiny group making a lot of noise, but the electorate won’t fall for the extremists.
There really are common-sense, not-deluded people in the Centre and left of centre who support an agenda that is NOT ‘radical’ but would bring the US into a fairer place. M4A, low cost (if not costless) tertiary education and a tax system that doesn’t soak the poorer 95% of the population while enabling the richest to get every more obscenely wealthy – these are really NOT radical policies and poll after poll shows these policies have become mainstream. 2020 will tell the tale.
Majella
Here is the problem in a nutshell.
There is no money for all the projects. This country is built on a house of cards of phony finances. I think our financial sector I’d currently over 40% of the GDP. That is insane. The Dems are buying votes. None of the big ideas are going to happen. Obama got O care through, and it has been weeping dollars ever since. So take all the promises both sides are talking about and put them on the shelf. There is no money to pay for anything new.
The debt is the big problem. The Boomers are retiring. SS is going to be strapped for awhile. Pensions are underfunded. These are two huge repositories of the National Debt, otherwise known as the bond market. Look at the bond yields. The Fed cannot keep the yields up. Bonds cost more as a consequence. Pretty soon, Boomers are going to start cashing in bonds, pensions are going to cash in bonds, SS is going to start cashing in bonds, etc. The creditor nation is going to erupt.
And there is no wealth to back anything up, as we have been generating phony baloney money without wealth backup for three generations now.
So whatever is being promised by the Left or Right, it is phony. If you want to buy their BS, have at it. I am counting on no help.
JAZ,
>>> Here is the problem in a nutshell. There is no money for all the projects.
All the more reason to stop corporate welfare and tax giveaways to the wealthy, no? Maybe it’s time for some serious trimming of the MICC military budget, as I don’t see much good that it does. Maybe we could funnel that money into M4A and shoring-up SS? It is certainly better than sending it down the rat hole, it’s current destination.
Maybe it’s time to stop private profits and socialized losses? I am ALL for private profits…. it’s the socialized loses I have a problem with. And no, it was not Obama, who gave $700 Billion to bail out Wall $t, that was GW Bush, he, who also gave us the endless wars on terrorism along with help from the Dems, no doubt.
The conservative track record indicates that their policies are not a panacea for us anymore than the lefts. Also, it is really hard to argue for a “moral compass” with a popular right-wing leader like GGG, is it not? He never was a choirboy, you’ll have to agree, and he has been a divisive SOB, no?
Look at this and tell me in what ways he’s wrong:
https://youtu.be/q0dQAUb22WA
Does she believe in healthcare for undocumented immigrants, also called illegals? Like the rest of the nuts? if so she’s a nut just like them and just like you.
If so, that would be in addition to the 500 billion in reparations she wants Whites to give Blacks. As if that would be the end of it and they wouldn’t be back for more in no time.
Ah – there you go, you nasty little fascist. GFY!
No it is a valid point. She does want reparations for Blacks which whether you agree with that or not will be a very costly endeavor. Therefore it is very pertinent to wonder if she will also provide free healthcare for illegals because that is another bank breaking proposition.
Janos – Who gives a shit? She has no chance of getting elected. I suggested the video because she actually makes a lot of sense. She’s not a corporate shill like Biden & Harris or Trump, is all.
Janos,
I suppose it’s better to let the illegals get sick as dogs as they wash our dishes, cook our food, watch our kids, clean our houses and work in our nursing homes? Is that what you prefer? How about all the money the illegals pour into social security (upwards of $13 Billion per year) with ZERO benefits and sales taxes. What about all the “stuff” they buy from American companies.
If the republicans core constituency, the wealthy and corporate America, wanted illegal immigration stopped, it would have been stopped decades ago. Face it, the Right is simply playing the “base” for fools. They have been talking this “immigration is bad” hog wash for decades now, but SOMEHOW, they can’t seem to get it done, even when they control all the levers of government as in GGG’s first two years.
I might also note, as an aside, that they sing the same tune about the federal debt, since Reagan’s time, and… well you know the scam there. We hate the debt, but, BUT somehow when the Repubs are in power, it only grows astronomically. I know, strange, but true…
We really, REALLY want to stop illegal immigration AND reduce the debt, but funny how it only gets worse. Go figure? No. don’t figure! Stop being such complete suckers, as you’ve been had! Besides, the immigration and debt horses left the barn a long time ago. Stop all of the immigration, legal or otherwise, and it is still not going to be a majority white country in a few short years, nor is the debt EVER going to be repaid. GET OVER IT, for your own and try to wise up.
So it’s too late? Ok, tell me this: When it wasn’t too late, where you in favor of trying to save Traditional America? Or did you deny there was even was an immigration problem (both legal and illegal)? Or did you secretly know, but pretended you didn’t – because you hated America? Which is it Hynes?
Many went from denying there was a problem straight to “It’s too late” – without ever having a stage in the middle. Needless to say, such people are fools or worse.
Janos,
Actually, 25 – 35 years ago, I didn’t think much about immigration either way. I was busy trying to make as much money as I could. It didn’t seem germane at the time, but I was probably remiss. For the record, I wish only the best for America and her citizens.
Tell me something if they are illegal they do not have a Social security number ergo they are not paying taxes nor are the putting into the SS system and if they do and are they have stolen someone SS number and are causing that person huge issues.
How do semi intelligent people continue to pander these lies much less believe them?
Further we are to believe the amount if ILLEGAL aliens has not grown from the 10-20 million number in the last thirty years?
Hog wash we have at least 40 million ILLEGALs running all over the land!
They use power, water, streets, food, housing and all the other assorted things that it takes to live in America what if those 40 million were not here?
How would that affect the price of EVERYTHING they are no longer using and straining.
Don’t you claim these ‘illegals’ vote (multi-vote, even) in droves?
How can they register to vote without being citizens?
I suspect that the US governance model in which the media and the US electorate are responsible for holding the “Leadership” accountable may have gone terribly awry when they reinvented themselves not as watchdogs over authority, but rather as advocates for various Social Justice Warrior causes, so that now they are not guardians of truth and honest governance, but rather cheerleaders and advocates of often underhanded, dishonest Saul Alinsky “Any Means Neceassary” tactics, such that governance now consists of rackets and is generally a cesspool. Once the society starts trying to purge mainstream “White” Western Civilization and starts advocating for LGBTQ Hedonism and pedophilia, it’s probably game over?
Why is it that Bill Clinton flew 26 times on Epstein’s Lolita Express and was a frequenter of Epstein’s bizarre pedophile sex Temple and that this is not a problem for the media or for people generally? Something is very, very wrong with this society. At least, Hy Tyler had won the Iron Cross twice for bravery. What about our “Leaders”? Look at these people! Something is very wrong.
you sad, angry, twisted right-wing haters…have at it! == Majella
Low-rating CNN Chris “Fredo” Cuomo goes ballistic:
Fredo! Fredo!! Fredo!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hnRtV5PJnY
‘Fredo-Gate’ Blows Up In Social Media After CNN Chris Cuomo’s Rant Over Heckler’s Comment
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/08/13/fredo-cnn-chris-cuomo-rant/
Cuomo acts very thin skinned and insecure
I think that Hy Tyler was awarded the Iron Cross (Second Class) twice as a stretcher bearer carrying wounded men off the battlefield under heavy enemy fire during WWI. I wonder if Bill Clinton or any of our “Leaders” would do that? Pete Buttigieg got sent to Afghanistan for 6 months and appears to have been interrogating prisoners at a black site at Bahgram Airbase. Pete speaks Farsi. Pete seems to have gotten-the-Hell outta there as soon as possible to return stateside and promptly changed his enlistment status so that that wouldn’t happen again. Pete says that the biggest lesson that he learned in Afghanistan is the importance of trusting your life in the hands of an LGBTQ Transgender soldier. They’re all insane….
Whoopi Goldberg wants to kill all of the White People. Why do they call her “Whoopi”? Would you name your kid “Whoopi”? Doesn’t “Whoopi” refer to the act of “Making Whoopi”? They’re all insane….
“Whoopi Cushion”?
She did what? She stopped campaigning for two weeks. Tulsi Gabbard has just one qualifying poll. She needs three more polls and the commander in chief has her doing military exercises for two weeks? Is this a conspiracy against Tulsi?
Ridpatha: the Cure for White Nationalism. Rid the pathology. Since White are the problem, the solution is – obvious!
This is stronger than Repatha. This is a final solution. But one gets you ready for the other. You learn to smile a lot and rub your belly.
bah,
don’t be so craven, Janos
the “whites” or “Caucasians” or “white Caucasians” or whatever..
won’t be distinguished as a race
ha ha
won’t be extinguished as a race
Freudian slip there maybe
ha ha
You’re not exercising your beast enough.
maybe not! lol
The worst example of the Media acting as a Cheerleader for Authority and showing their True Colors is when they turned their backs on fellow journalist Julian Assange. They blamed Assange for sinking Hillary when Assange published emails that amongst others showed Hillary admitting that she has a public persona to fool the voters and a private persona for the corporate donors. They got mad at Assange because Hillary was better for the LGBTQ weirdo’s. It’s almost painful to see the candidates knowingly and willfully promising healthcare, etc. that they have no hope and no intention of delivering.
J. Assange, a journalist? A “publisher” of sorts, perhaps, but certainly not a journalist and hardly a neutral observer at any rate. Journalists, as all writers, are required to write, not simply disseminate. More of a gadfly or muckraker I would say. Some of his early “work” was probably useful, in that it showed evil and dirty deeds committed by the MICC, which can always use some sunlight.
The last several years he seems to have been co-opted by his Russian friends and was decidedly one-sided. Also, his feces smearing at the Ecuadorian embassy didn’t seem like a very nice way to treat one’s hosts, but maybe it simply indicated his mental decline, I don’t know.
The doctor stuck his finger up my butthole yesterday to check my prostate. Holy Jesus! That Gay Thang is definitely not my cup of tea. I don’t know how Pete and Chaz Buttigieg can get off on that? I think that if you were a cabin boy on a Royal Navy ship and some drunken British sailors came at you, you’d probably want to grab their nuts in your hands and crush them to defend yourself? I think that Indian women recommend carrying a small bag of chili powder to rub on their nuts if they’re attacked by Indian or Paki rapists. I guess that you could carry the chili powder in a small plastic bag and then break the bag with your finger nail?
“That Gay Thang is definitely not my cup of tea. I don’t know how Pete and Chaz Buttigieg can get off on that? “
Well if you want the simple anatomical answer to your musings, Pucker, it’s not rocket science. The ano-rectal area is full of sensitive nerve endings. I speak not from personal experience but from medical science.
But it does lead me on to the point I’ve mentioned before, which is that anal sex is extensively practised in the heterosexual community, led by its phenomenal popularity on heterosexual porn sites (again, I am quoting from the literature…). Popularity with men, that is, principally, but in a ‘more blessed to give than to receive’ kinda way).
Now, given that you don’t find it any fun, let’s just surmise that those gals taking it up the jacksie on the interwebz don’t necessarily find it any more fun than you would – in fact let’s consider that (a) they have smaller rectums, (b) they have to deal with larger than normal male members and (c) that I actually heard one such ex-practitioner – or rather ‘recipient’ testify that she had to take incredibly strong painkillers in order to pretend for the cameras that she was enjoying it. (Said painkillers weren’t quite enough for the several anal fissures that she also suffered and had to have mended, of course, all in the cause of satisfactory heterosexual male masturbation).
And finally, it seems that about 30% of homosexual men don’t even like anal sex.
Let’s just settle for the conclusion that it’s not really a ‘Gay Thang’ any more. And that MEN are rather fond of anal sex. Because new thangs (and tighter thangs) get the fellas turned on
I hope that doesn’t make any snowflakes melt. If so, medical publishing wouldn’t be for you.
That’s so gross Alba. Can’t some comments just be left alone without a huge essay about the gory details. And I am sorry but I don’t feel sorry for someone who says something like, “let me go ahead and take some pain pills so I can take all of this in without crying or screaming in pain but I definitely want to get on camera and get paid and all so poor me I suffer so much.”
And somewhere in Louisiana, a snowflake melts.
As it would.
Just as well you didn’t decide to be a doctor or a nurse,SSL. They’d have had to pick you up of the floor. But generally I find that knowledge is better than ignorance and if it stopped people talking nonsense it might be helpful.
I did feel sorry for the girl. She went into ahem…modelling, at 18 and by 19 was a porn actress. The TV programme involved taking three British male porn aficionados to Los Angeles to see what went on behind the scenes. By the end of the programme they’d all decided to eschew further porn use. Which they probably did for about a week.
But this is what I mean about taking advantage of young women (even ones technically of age) before they really know what they’re doing or what the consequences will be. At 27 she just wanted to be like everyone else and have a husband and family. But none of those men who were happy to use her as a prop were interested in having her as a partner. Men can be like that. So, yes, I felt sorry for her. Not everyone in the profession is like her, but she elicited my sympathy. Many of the hard-nosed ones don’t.
You probably shouldn’t read the ‘Illusion of Love’ chapter in Chris Hedges’ ‘Empire of Illusion’. Enough snow has melted in Louisiana.
It’s interesting though, how different people’s moral universes operate.
Some can’t cope with a bit of prosaic human biology but they’re happy to send millions of people of another tribe ‘back’ to a continent they’ve never even been to and know nothing about, with no compunction whatever.
A good Key opens many locks. But a good Lock only opens to one key. A Man wants a blank page to write on – virgin parchment you might say, parchment that has been in locked drawer.
That’s not say other locks or parchment don’t have their uses of course.
You need to download my thoughts and take a long walk around Loch Lomond. Make it a mini-break. You may come back a changed woman.
“A good Key opens many locks. But a good Lock only opens to one key.”
D’you know, if I have to read that bit of revolting hypocrisy from you one more time I might just throw up.
” A Man wants a blank page to write on – virgin parchment you might say, parchment that has been in locked drawer.”
Then he can take his hyper-hypocrisy and f**k right off. Why would I give a flying one what male hypocrisy ‘wants’?
That’s not say other locks or parchment don’t have their uses of course.
Like I said. See above.
“You need to download my thoughts and take a long walk around Loch Lomond. Make it a mini-break. You may come back a changed woman.”
Your thoughts need to be downloaded into a waste-disposal unit where they belong.
Alba,
A bit of a doctor joke to tell your husband;
A guy is getting his yearly physical. The doctor finishes the other tests and then tells the guy to drop his pants and bend over the examining table, as he will now check the patient’s prostate. The doctor tells the patient, ” Don’t worry…getting an erection is not abnormal during this procedure.” The guy thinks a minute and tells the doctor that he’s not getting an erection, and the doctor replies, “yes, but I am”….
Alba,
The doctor joke not appreciated? How about a lawyer (barrister) joke? I will even Anglicize the language for your convenience.
A bloke walks into the local pub, sits himself down at the counter and loudly exclaims “All barristers are arseholes!
The counterman says “OY! Do not use such language in this establishment.”
The bloke replies “Why Not? What are you, a barrister?
“No” the counterman replies “I’m an Arsehole!”
That one is slightly better, EF!
Re the previous one, I recall my husband recounting what was possibly an apocryphal tale that allegedly happened back in the days when young medics could amuse themselves without being struck off as they would today.
A doctor was examining a patient’s prostate, while resting his spare hand on the patient’s shoulder. Then a second medic comes surreptitiously in and places his own hand on the other shoulder…
Doctor humour. Don’t believe it myself 🙂
Too much information.
My comment was intended for Pucker’s personal medical procedure descriptions and analysis.
Thank you Green Alba for the medical perspective. It does appear, that buggering, may not be a gay thang ‘t all, but more of a male, dingly dangly, thang.
It would seem that the principle deciding factor, as far as “enjoyment” goes, would be, who is pitching and who is catching, but I may be wrong, not having had any experience on defense or offense in this particular, peculiar sport.
I think it works both ways to at least some extent, JDH, but I think I’d rather think about something else now. 🙂
Agreed, GA! ?
What do you think about Climate Change?
This bloke says that it’s basically game over in ten years because climate change will result in severe disruption to agricultural.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9MQGRI8N48
“because climate change will result in severe disruption to agricultural.”
And in severe disruption to normal sentence construction, it would seem. 🙂
Aryanism reflects in a modern way the ethos of Paganism. It is a movement and view of the world that is fundamentally anti-materialistic and timeless. It challenges the unnatural and distorted values present in our times. It is a practical alchemy of human matter, of masses and will. National Socialism reached to the Shadow of the European soul that had been repressed over the course of a century of Materialism, Liberalism, Rationalism and Cosmopolitanism. It sought to bring balance back to a world that had been made lop-sided with the inversion of Nature, and of instinct. Here it restores that healthy vitality – that physical exuberance and acceptance of our physical nature – which Christianity suppressed and distorted, to the detriment of the Aryan psyche. Through the manifestation of Aryanism, the race and German culture was given a new path, something which they had hidden inside themselves all the time. They only needed someone to show them this path and to lead them through.
Occultism, as Carl G. Jung understood, strives to represent our suppressed ‘Dark’ side, our instinctive unconscious. Jung tried to understand National Socialism as a modern re-birth of this suppressed ‘Dark’ or instinctive side: a re-birth, in Jung’s words, of Wotanism or Odinism. The truth, however, is that National Socialism represents the wholeness itself – it does not represent just what has become described as the ‘Dark’, ‘Shadow’, instinctive, or unconscious aspect of our Aryan nature simply because this aspect does not, or rather should not, exist by itself. Real Aryanism is the path towards Wholeness. It is both the Light and the Dark, it reflects instinctive nature, both unconscious, and consciousness. It is rational and irrational similarly, both collective and individual. Any attempts to describe Aryanism as an opposite, as one sided, is simply wrong. As such it arose from the depth of the collective racial soul, as it is the answer to the search of that which is perfection.
‘We cannot possibly get beyond our present level of culture unless we receive a powerful impetus from our primitive roots. But we shall receive it only if we go back beyond our cultural level, thus giving the suppressed primitive man in ourselves a chance to develop. … We need some new foundations. We must dig down to the primitive in us, for only out of the conflict between civilised man and the Germanic barbarian will there come what we need: a new experience of god.’
– Carl G. Jung
from blog of the Black Order, Blood, symbol of the Soul
JS: What can I say? They are correct. Christianity alone cannot save us now. Too cut off from nature. Too individualistic. It doesn’t value us in, as, and of Ourselves. It doesn’t value The Blood. The Vampire legends are just this suppressed and demonized Truth: Esta la Vida. It is the Life!
Finca – I’ve been waiting for your take on the nuclear cock-up yesterday in the White Sea (?).
As I understand it, it was most likely a new nuclear propulsion system that went haywire…?
Right now 2 nuclear reactors are on a barge and being towed 4000 miles across the Arctic Ocean. Once on station they will be used to power up oil and natgas mining operations Russia is conducting at the bottom of the sea.
I hope there are no icebergs floating about.
Brh
Yes, I read about that a few weeks back. I’m just curious about the missile test cock-up that resulted in the nuclear accident near Severodvinsk.
There’s been so very little in the ‘news’ about it, so I’m expecting Finca will have more ‘information’ and can relate it back to some medieval-era Machiavellian subterfuge of the Red/White/Black protagonists…
Perhaps it’s where the Glowing Orange protagonists make their entrance in Series Five. 🙂
“It doesn’t value us in, as, and of Ourselves”
What does ‘It doesn’t value us of ourselves’ mean?
If Christianity can’t help you, maybe this could:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oxford-Guide-Plain-English-Martin/dp/0199558507
That Aryan mystic stuff can get mighty wordy.
I understand what you mean when you say that we need something that is from us, about us and for us. Christianity provides a framework but doesn’t address our needs as a people since the principles therein apply to humanity as a whole. We do need something that brings us together again as a real people that doesn’t discount our identity and our history.
Are you happy Alba? Your prophecy has been fulfilled. I did give in.
“I understand what you mean when you say that we need something that is from us, about us and for us. “
Not quite what Monsieur said, but we could write his posts ourselves really, so it doesn’t matter too much at this stage that he has a taste for flowery – and occasionally inappropriate – multi-prepositions that serve no purpose other than literary self-aggrandisement.
I’m not sure why you’d think that your choice would make me happy. If I had to choose between a person of your tender years going with Christianity or obsessive tribalism, I’d go for the Christianity, whether the metaphysical or the non-metaphysical variety.
Seen from the inside or the outside, it seems to me that the aim of metaphysical Christianity is to save your ‘immortal soul’, not to prolong the existence – or superiority – of your particular tribe (which may well be – and clearly is for you – an important aim, but it has no connection with the imperatives of Christianity, as you both seem to be figuring out).
But I suppose it’s something at least that the two of you have finally worked your way to the obvious point that I could have told you years ago – that the two things are largely incompatible – or at the very least largely unrelated.
And I don’t mean that you should remotely feel any shame for being white – I certainly don’t – just that the whole tribal obsession thing doesn’t sit well with your proclaimed religious beliefs. You’re going to have some soul-searching to do as your life proceeds, to figure out which imperative will be manipulated to serve the other, but then soul searching is par for the course for those of us who don’t settle for Cheetos and TV. Good luck.
I think this largely confirms what becomes obvious from a lifetime’s observation – that the kind of Christianity an individual embraces mostly reflects the person they are or were going to be without the Christianity. Kind, gentle Christians would be kind and gentle even if they were not Christians. Harsh, authoritarian Christians would be harsh authoritarians even if they’d never heard of Christianity.
An observation not limited to me.
I still don’t per se see these two perspectives as irreconcilable though. Christianity does provide a good framework but just that there needs to be something else that addresses our tribe directly. I know you don’t support tribalism, but the people who are in power do. They rely on people like you and me not accessing our instincts in this area. That way we remain largely compliant to the devastating policies that they are implementing that will do us all in except for them.
GA & SSL
Have you heard of the TV series on Netflix called “The Family”?
It explores the corrupt use of the ‘Jesus’ thing to influence politics over the last 6 years, mostly American but also in a wide range of other political systems around the world?
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/14/netflixs-the-family-documentary-series-is-leaving-viewers-stunned-and-fd-up-10571762/
I’ve been surprised that Janos hasn’t been blowing its horn here, because it’d be right up his alley – it models its agenda on high-loyalty systems such as Hitler & the NAZIs & other right-wing dictators.
erratum:
‘..over the last 60 years…’ (obviously)
Thanks, Majella – that definitely sounds worth a look.
I don’t have Netflix – maybe there will be another way of accessing it, even if it’s only a DVD in the fullness of time!
Or maybe I should give in and get Netflix. 🙂
I have heard about it but haven’t seen it. I find it hard to believe that we live in a Christian theocracy though. I wonder if Netflix would be bold enough to create a series about Muslim theocrats and Shariah practitioners whose influence in Western society and politics is growing. I also wonder if Netflix would do a series on La Raza and other Hispanic Supremacists political organizations that actually receive taxpayer funding through HUD to openly promote the overthrow of the American government in the southwest states in order to rejoin Mexico. Oh and Alba, La Raza wants to deport American Whites back to Europe. Anyway, from what I’ve gathered the evil “Family” are ultimately Zionist servants.
Ha, yes. The Jews hide behind people like that. So much so that now they are slandering them as the Culprits for what is wrong with America. As if we actually live in a Christian Theocracy!
SSL & Janos
It doesn’t describe a Christian Theocracy…there’s nothing ‘Christian’ about it, in fact. It’s lip-service, with a corrupted Jesus cult at its heart. It plays on celibate orders much like monestaries to provide a group of young brainwashed men who work in many roles, eventually as aides to politicians.
GA – yes, give in to Netflix. You can always switch your account off & on as you choose, when Rees something worth watching. The family is a 6 parter, so can provide food for thought for a week or so.
SSL – what the actual? Once again, you take a thought and then extrapolate into some sort of fugue-like rant which inevitably lands on your ingrained, twisted narrative of Muslimophobia. But now I see you’ve expanded your paranoia to actually include, outright, Latino. Congratulations! You’re not far from becoming Janos’ greatest piece of work, a truly “persuadable” unit, a la Cambridge Analytica.
“It doesn’t describe a Christian Theocracy…there’s nothing ‘Christian’ about it, in fact. It’s lip-service, with a corrupted Jesus cult at its heart. It plays on celibate orders much like monestaries to provide a group of young brainwashed men who work in many roles, eventually as aides to politicians.”
For some reason that reminded me of an essay of Joe Bageant’s about the madder side of evangelical Christianity in his neck of the woods (including the apparently phenomenally popular ‘Left Behind’ novels) in the US. He pointed out that one shouldn’t underestimate the number of ‘Jesus College’ graduates who are funnelled straight into government.
So not a theocracy, but they do try.
“You’re not far from becoming Janos’ greatest piece of work, a truly “persuadable” unit”
As I said elsewhere, it’s been like observing a textbook case study of grooming.
Beto’s latest Social Media stunt was to post a photo of himself changing a flat tire like he’s just some blue collar average joe….
Unfortunately, Modern Liberalism has redefined “Freedom” to mean Hedonism ( “Anything goes and Nothing Matters.”)
Beto
Aug 13
To the protestors risking their lives for democracy in Hong Kong, I want you to know: We are with you. We believe in you. And no matter who our president is, America will always be on the side of freedom.
Beto: “America will always be in the side of Anything Goes and Nothing Matters.”
Yes I saw that on YouTube and it was very amusing. If someone has to post photos and videos of how average they are then a snow job is probably occurring.
Well said, snowflake. When you can snatch the pebbles from my hand, it will be time for you to leave.
Janos
You NEVER make sense, and then sometimes, you’re just incoherent.
Sometimes you make me chuckle Majella. A Master speaks. Maybe one day you will understand.
I don’t know if SSL got the reference or not ( the old Kung Fu show), but she really know how to talk to me even when she doesn’t.
Finca – I’ve been waiting for your take on the nuclear cock-up yesterday in the White Sea == Majella
The 9M730 Burevestnik (Russian: “Petrel”, NATO reporting name: SSC-X-9 Skyfall) is a Russian nuclear-powered, nuclear-armed cruise missile under development for the Russian Armed Forces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M730_Burevestnik
But what I think it was one in the series of sabotages launched by the US “Intelligence Community” without the sanction of US Commander in Chief and most notorious of which was the mine exploded on Deep Water Losharik on July 1 with President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin on board.
The recent mass protests in Moscow, Yekaterinburg, fires in Siberia are all arias from the same opera.
The leaders of American Intelligence community, who belong to the notorious sect of pedophiles, continue to expose American sleeper cells in the Russian Federation.
What do you think of Grigori Rasputin? Was Rasputin like Jeffrey Epstein?
Is Jeffrey Epstein to the Clinton’s what Rasputin was to the Romanov’s?
“What do you think of Grigori Rasputin?”
Puck,
Rasputin was NOTHING like Epstein…however, he did get laid more than Frank Sinatra….
“…… there is unity of voice from the media that Trump is a White Supremacist who inspires Terrorism.”
This unity of voice is suspicious as there are many different possible explanations of the El Paso shooting. The unity of voice is so uniform—in some cases identical phrasing—and so repetitive that it certainly looks like an orchestration against Trump and raises suspicions that the shooting itself was an orchestration.
The question naturally arises, to achieve such an uniformity of response from the Western world, who organized it? How was the explanation that blames Trump ready at hand all over the US, UK, Europe, Canada and Australia, the minute the shooting occurred? Does it remind you of the BBC announcing the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 a half hour before it occurred?
Anytime an explanation is ready at hand the minute an event occurs, the natural question is who had advance information? If there is advance information, where did it come from? Why did not authorities with their advanced information prevent the attack?Why after “Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction,” “Iranian nukes,” “Russian invasions,” “Assad’s use of chemical weapons,” etc., do media organizations continue to provide unexamined explanations? Why did the media suppress the shooter’s manifesto? Because it did not support the story line and attack on Trump?
As the presstitutes speak with one voice, little wonder that some of the few and diminishing number of Americans still capable of thought conclude that the El Paso shooting was an orchestrated event designed to discredit Trump and to abolish the 2nd Amendment. We have long known about CIA mind control programs. Many experts believe that Sirhan Sirhan, the alleged assassin of Robert Kennedy, was a product of the CIA’s mind control program…..”
—PCR
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/08/10/the-survival-of-the-fittest/
Part of me feels like all of these mass shootings are fabrications meant to further weaken an already weakened people (Western Whites) to succumb completely to accepting their genocide. Once we have no ability to protect ourselves from the government they will definitely come in and control every aspect of our lives. This has been the plan all along. And it is very out in the open that the plan includes physically eliminating many Whites. These college courses regarding the abolition of Whiteness, etc., do not occur in a vacuum. Universities, like all of our other institutions are filled with “assets” that work for other people and agendas. If we were serious and intelligent we would identify them for the parasites and termites they are and react accordingly. But mostly we are asleep at the wheel.
This El Paso shooting is a classic PsyOp, as well as an IntelliOp. No doubt about it. The multiple people who were there who’ve gone on record saying they say 3 men in black with covered faces doing the shooting. Some of these witnesses speak English. Others Spanish. But they all have similar testimonials and I believe are very genuine people. Oh, not one of them described the guy they “caught” who was wearing a black t-shirt, shooting range ear muff protectors, and shooter glasses, and khaki pants. In the surveillance photo he has on khaki cargo pants. In the arrest picture outside the pants are still khaki but you can’t see the side pockets that you could in the surveillance picture.
Unlike Dayton the FBI swooped in and took over in El Paso. Of course they have custody of the WalMart surveillance footage and you can bet your bottom dollar that we will never see that. Just like they never let the public see that alleged passenger jet that struck the Pentagon in 2001. National Security reasons you see.
Oh, and I don’t believe the FBI should be allowed to hijack the investigation in El Paso anyway. It doesn’t have jurisdiction unless the “shooter” crossed state lines, or at least “purchased” the gun in another state. “He” didn’t’. The “story” is that he bought it in Texas. And he is a Texan.
Oh well, silly me. I’m so old fashioned to not believe in the all powerful federal government that can just usurp local and state power. I must be one of them hateful Confederates.
Now here’s a real kicker……”they” can’t even get a picture of the “shooter” right…..
https://www.intellihub.com/suspected-el-paso-walmart-shooters-appearance-gets-darker-in-mainstream-media-posts-same-individual-psyop/
Wow it is very clear that the photos are of two distinct individuals. Possibly both of them were involved in the shooting since like you, I have consistently been hearing about multiple shooters when reading the eye witness testimonies. Yes, no doubt if you don’t believe in the all seeing eye on top of that pyramid then you must be a White Supremacist Confederate lol.
Albert Pike was both a Confederate General and one of the Greatest Masons of his time. His “Morals and Dogma” is required reading in the Southern Scottish Rite – revealing the worship of Lucifer as the core doctrine.
Alas even if the Confederacy had survived, it would have been riven between people like this and the Christian populace. Yet he seemed to be sincere in his beliefs that the South was being persecuted and their Cause was just. Later he was bitter about Negro Equality and he feared it would even be imposed on Masonry. I fear even this learned and in some ways great Man was ultimately a tool for Those whom he did not know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pike
The Masonic ideals not only work against Christianity, but against any kind of Republic, equality, or democratic process. Masons get special treatment – including in the Courts. Justice is thus not blind. Your brother and even more so, your Superior, come before all others. They are right about the existence of Hierarchy – but wrong to conflate it with rights above those of others less evolved or those who may be evolved but not in Masonry. All in all, something very alien to
American Life, but something that suited the Elite just fine. Just one more force that poisoned America from within.
Yes Janos you are right about Albert Pike. And right about Masonry. And right that the Confederacy probably would’ve ended up being riven between people like Pike and the Christian populace.
Mainly I strongly believe in the 10th Amendment, which is pretty much null and void. Lincoln saw to that without having to call for a Constitutional Convention to get rid of it. He chose a mega blood letting instead to make DC, Inc. supreme. Those Imperial DC guys seem to have a penchant for blood ritual don’t they?
Compare this with Patrick Pearse. The Easter Rebellion had been betrayed to the British and the IRA faced long years of reorganizing. But Pearse said no, we go forward. We need a blood sacrifice. Much of downtown Dublin was destroyed and the People were cursing them as fools But when the British executed one guy strapped to his wheel chair, the mood changed and Ireland was born.
But it doomed from the start since the inner core of Sinn Fein was Marxist and thus inimical to Health, Beauty, or the very existence of the Nation of Ireland or the Irish People.
Hmmm I hadn’t heard that before but am not too surprised just because I have read about how widespread the Freemasons are and how they predominate in higher level political and social circles. It would seem that these secret societies would be the object of the government’s inquisitive eyes and ears if they were truly concerned about democracy and a repesentative government. But you never hear about 3 AM raids on Freemason compounds. Overall, our open society allows for factions to solidy around their self interests and organize accordingly. And to make matters worse diversity is encouraged. So it’s a recipe for disaster.
SSL
You’re lack of basic nuts’n’bolts common knowledge astounds me!
The Masons RUN governments, all round the world. Why would ‘the governent’ Investigate them?
They’re not known for violent public action,
Lastly diversity is not a high-agenda issue among the Masons. They’ve only recently let women and Papists in, though I’m not sure many Catholics have availed themselves of the golden opportunity.
I hope JimInFlorida read that post…love to hear his response.
Why only part? You need to listen to that part, it’s right.
All kinds of rumors multiply like crocodiles from the Bulgakov’s novel “The Fatal Eggs” and by their maliciousness they are not inferior to the main characters of this novel.
For example, the British (Theresa May’s) attack on Russia seems extremely doubios, since if in Russia in the event of a nuclear war a lot of people have good chances to survive due to the size of its territory, then British citizens have no chance whatsoever.
And I have to remind that we have already gone through this, and there are more than enough textbooks on this subject.
For example, the movie “The Last Encounter,” gives an extremely convincing picture of how the Soviet counterintelligence was frightened by the Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative and multiple warhead missile programs, and missed Operation Gorbachev, as a result of which the USSR ceased to exist.
And Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative turned out to be a common disinformation campaign designed to distract attention or if you want trolling.
All this arms race has always been designed to support the main strategic weapon of the West – the donkey loaded with gold, which, according to Alexander the Great, cannot be resisted by any fortress.
In particular, all color revolutions, both past and future, are built on the penetration of this donkey into the corresponding KGB, FSB, Ministry of Internal Affairs and so on, which are legally obliged to machine gun any peaceful protest with hot led if it has a chance of success similar to Ukrainian.
And since we are talking about this, I cannot help but say that from my point of view in recent days there has indeed been an attempt at a “palace” coup, but it has failed.
But the assertion that it was committed by the Russian “siloviki” simply does not pass through any gates, since the euphemism “siloviki” means the non-comprador elite in Russia, and the patriot-conspirator in this situation is either an oxymoron or a clinical idiot.
But the liberal bloc, who could just as well be called comprador, in this situation, simply ran into accusation of treason, and I would be very surprised if they did not twitch in this situation.
The best evidence for this hypothesis is NATO’s behavior, which until recently had its tail held high like a pistol and getting more impudent by the minute, like a German in a Munich beer hall.
And for the last few months, Russia has stepped up its activity and switched to offensive tactics, while NATO, on the contrary, hid its tail between the legs, and this tail is clearly wet, in the complete absence of rain.
This can easily be explained by conspiracy theory, since it is more than natural that NATO, counting on a coup, kept its tail high and getting more impudent before our eyes and NATO subsided also demonstratively, learning about the failure of the coup, at the same time pissing on its own tail.
By the way, this analysis confirms the good health of Vladimir Putin, as the NATO idiots really convinced themselves that everything rests on one person, and if something bad happened to the Putin, then the joy and arrogance of NATO would have no bounds, even if the failure of all other covert operations except this one.
“…the British (Theresa May’s) attack on Russia”…huh? When was that? What did I miss?
The Scripal’s case, for example.
Finca, really, I can’t believe you still give credence to those two dipsticks who went to Salisbury to ‘see the famous cathedral spire’. Were you really born yesterday? They’ve been outed. One guy’s granny told everyone in her village who he was. You’re too funny.
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/it-is-a-really-good-cathedral-says-trump-20180913177285
I was thinking last night that Epstein is probably a CIA asset after all. His entire operation may have served as an initiation of the world’s most powerful people into a secret web of societies serving a sinister agenda or agendas. I am also beginning to think the charges against him, the arrest, the death (escape?) are all pre-planned and orchestrated press releases. Epstein is simply a face. An intentional point of reference and blame that the public can latch on to. But clearly he acted not alone but within a web. This information was intentionally put out in the public domain so there is something else going on that the powers that be are distracting us from. Probably many things actually. And I say the CIA because it is already known that the CIA does not work for the American government. Does anyone actually know who they work for?
Well you know that quite a few members of the Senate and Congress have dual citizenship. As well as other powerful people in finance, the courts, mega corporations, Intelligence, etc… And some of the powerful just have a strong allegiance to this other country while not having dual citizenship.
This other country begins with the letter “I”, but it’s not India. Or Iran. Or Indonesia. I think you get my drift.
The CIA at the highest level could really be called the ZIA. The agency for the “Red Shield”.
wink, wink….nudge, nudge
I do understand and I totally agree. In fact I think our entire government has dual loyalty to some degree or another.
Yep, and we know where the highest allegiance lies, don’t we? I like ZIA. It fits.
Yes, ZIA it shall be! As it has been and will be.
The CIA at the highest level could really be called the ZIA
Another delirium of a grey gelding in a moonless night.
Yes but even when the Moon is not with us the Stars are always present.
Somehow it doesn’t make the delirium any less delusional.
SSL
Epstein is almost certainly an agent for the DGSE (French Intel), Mossad, CIA, and Saudi Intelligence. Also some sidework for Switzerland and UK. A quadruple agent, a very valuable asset, which is perhaps where his fortune came from.
Epstein had a genius IQ and was a talented musician. Sometimes in history you read about people who are a little depraved (most everybody) but because of great wealth or influence take depravity to the limit. Hiram Maxim inventor of the machine gun was one of those people. Harry Thaw, steel magnate scion with a $100,000 per month bequest in 1900, Liz Nesbits husband, was another. Epstein seems to have been a modern day Cagliguala who would accept no limits.
Brh
He also won the Powerball! And if he is what you say, he is automatically one of your heroes, a brother in arms.
Remember that Jewish kid who make all those fake bomb threats to Synagogues? Then skipped off to Israel? If Israel was really our ally, they would extradite him. They don’t extradite, you say. I know, but why not? Don’t we have a “special relationship”? Or is that only one way?
You need to take a long walk around Loch Lomond. Perhaps with Alba. By all means take your Wild Turkey. But also take my thoughts as well. Who knows? Maybe you’ll find the High Road….
Sometimes you try to be too clever, Janos.
In other words, you have no response. Sad!
“Who knows? Maybe you’ll find the High Road….”
Janos,
Well, you know I have the Low Road covered….
A one way relationship omg no!!!! Let’s call Marianne Williamson for advice so we can defeat this darkness with love. Oh wait, she’s ok with one way relationships too.
“The mass shooting events that have rocked America over the past two days follow the pattern of “FBI terror plots” documented by the New York Times and the Kansas City Star (see sources, below) as being created and carried out by FBI agents. These two shootings were initiated in the hours following the bombshell revelation that the FBI conspired with Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration to destroy Clinton’s email hard drives as a means to eliminate any evidence of Hillary Clinton’s prosecutable crimes.
Former FBI director James Comey is now known to have run multiple criminal schemes to illegally frame Trump administration officials while clearing Obama-era officials as part of a treasonous deep state plot to overthrow the United States of America, defeat President Trump and frame Trump supporters as domestic terrorists.
It now appears abundantly obvious that the FBI is the most prolific terrorist organization in America, and this fact has been confirmed by the New York Times. Under the treasonous command of Barack Obama and James Comey, the FBI was radicalized and weaponized into a treasonous crime syndicate that routinely plotted and carried out acts of terrorism against the United States of America, all while covering up the damning evidence of criminality and treason that should have sent Hillary Clinton to prison……”
https://www.intellihub.com/bombshell-mass-shooting-events-follow-pattern-of-fbi-terror-plots-documented-by-the-new-york-times-agents-recruit-social-media-extremists-to-frame-as-scapegoats-for-enginee/
Sort of like the day before 9/11 it was announced by Donald Rumsfeld that the Pentagon had “lost” over two trillion dollars. These criminal acts are likely cover-ups for even deeper criminal activity. And on top of that they motivate the public to give away more and more freedom with every event.
I don’t want to step on toes but from FOE:
Xi JinPing holds a doctorate in chemistry. Trump holds a faint lead over pursuing law enforcement.By contrast,
I find (can I possibly be right?) in the 535 members of Congress one PhD in math, and one in physics. This is actually a good thing as it shows that our government is truly democratic and Of The People, which is to say technically illiterate, not very bright and and undistracted by, you know, like equations and atoms and all that stuff. Remember the prescient warning of George Wallace against have pointy-headed intellectuals.
Degrees mean you can finish what you start and have the ability to learn but should not be used as a gauge for intelligence.
Some of the dumbest people I know have PHD’s and some of the smartest people I have ever seen barely finished High school.
A friend from South Africa did not finish High school but the guy can fix anything has multiple patents for all sorts of crazy applications for boats and under water drones. Fabricated go fast boats for the US Navy and God only knows what else an Elon Musk type.
You got that right B, I am not a college nerd. I always told my kids I could fix anything but a broken egg! Obviously not true, but after I learned how to read I did not have much use for school. I like machinery. They ain’t nottin’ wors then sum kno-it-all edjumacated arsehole!
Yes, IQ has nothing to do with the X factor, creativity. Of course if you want to be creative in some things, it might help to study at a University, say physics. But inventing things like that? Probably not.
IQ also has nothing to do with Judgement or how you use, value, or interpret knowledge. Alas. It is far more rare than high IQ. Many know much but remain utter fools, unable to use what they know. If anything, it just gets in the way of what little commonsense they do have. Most Liberals know enough to stay away from Blacks, despite their grotesque pro-Black rhetoric. Their hypocrisy saves them but damns America.
IQ has nothing to do with the X factor, creativity.
Nonsense, IQ < 80 are not creative.
Who created IQ test? SAT test?
Well Ok. I was just pointing out that the two aren’t the same. That very smart people might be bereft of creativity. Obviously dumb people can be too. I don’t know if they can be creative or if they could, what that would look like. Maybe.
About Stanley Kubrick and his brilliant film “Eyes Wide Shut”
Kubrick was generally a very strange person. For example, he allegedly was afraid to fly on airplanes, although he had a commercial pilot license, and this fear did not allow him to fly to the USA, but did not prevent him from being an instructor at an airfield in New Jersey.
And for the shooting of the movie “Eyes Wide Shut”, he created a New York pavilion in England that experienced New Yorkers, who know not only 5th Avenue and tourist Greenwich Village, but also the underground slums of New York, detailed in this movie.
And all this was built so that Kubrick would not have to fly to New York, since he was panicky afraid of airplanes, which he somehow learned to fly.
Moreover, with a brilliant insight, he reproduced in “Eyes Wide Shut” not just a Masonic bordello, but a very specific atmosphere of New York in the 90s – the city that brought Hillary Clinton to power, and her election campaign was led by the son of the most famous Orthodox bishop of New York, and I first saw her live and even touched her hand in a church on 21 Street and 6 Avenue, which was desacralized and turned into a club for sexually theatrical performances such as what is shown in this movie.
There are many such clubs in desacralized churches in New York.
I know at least three. For one of them, a real temple of the 8th century (or maybe the 8th century BC) was even dismantled in Gascony and completely brought to New York together with the altar, on which similar procedures were already taking place one and a half thousand years ago.
By the way, has anyone remembered what was the “civilian” profession of a high priest, to whom, according to this film, bankers and presidents are unquestioningly subordinate?
The one that spared the main character, who accidentally found himself at this gathering and looks a lot like Kubrick himself?
And by the way, the leading actor is a member of a very interesting sect, which has already been banned on the territory of the Russian Federation, but he starred in this film, thinking that it will tell about the sexual fantasies of the New York doctor and his wife, and not about the ISIS sect, which is ready to put the world on the brink of total destruction if it gets to the red button, which Hillary Clinton very prudently called “overload”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n-ojOnrfYk
Ok, I’ll have a mercy on you.
The all-powerful head of the sect practicing ritual sex in the movie is a fashion designer
Not a fan of her myself, but you’ve really got a thing for HRC, don’t ya, old boy? Are you perhaps autistic as well? That would explain a lot.
That is because I did touch her hand and I had the “Dead Zone” experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj9M34DzAKo
you touched Hillary’s hand? sheesh man.. I hope you washed good after that
I think Fincaln and HRC should just get a room already!
Really Ivan? So let me get this straight. Eyes Wide Shut is basically an ISIS love story?
https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/08/14/google-machine-learning-fairness-whistleblower-goes-public-says-burden-lifted-off-of-my-soul/
Google not playing fair? No surprise here, but the mask has been ripped off, if nothing else. Crap like this is of no help to a deeply troubled political process.
Cheers
I find it interesting that they are silencing both alleged far right and far left sites.
Attitude check
What does everyone think of the situation in HongKong? Do we have any responsibility to “rescue” the protestors at their airport? Is Trump going to get dumped on re: Hong Kong no matter what he does. Of course.
We have a city that is diametrically opposed to the main stream of the US. It has its own protesters that are just as violent as Hong Kong’s. Portland, Oregon is a separatist city. Wharf would happen if they decided to withdraw from the US? What would you want Trump to do? Then, what do you think Xi should do with Hong Kong?
China has always been authoritarian in nature, always. Hong Kong is European in nature. Do you think China is going to change its politics to accommodate Hong Kong. No more than the US will accommodate Portland.
Good point. China isn’t going to change for us. If we wanted something more like us, why did we support Mao and shit on Chiang Kai Shek (sp?)? We’ll be lucky if they don’t take Taiwan someday soon too. Such utter foolishness on the part of our Elite.
” Do we have any responsibility to “rescue” the protestors ”
John,
Rescue them from what?
I suppose it’s better to let the illegals get sick as dogs
as they wash our dishes,
[who is ‘they’?]
cook our food, [oh please]
watch our kids,[are you really that stupid?]
clean our houses and work in our nursing homes?
Janos has mentioned the horror of the non Whites ‘nursing’ old people.
Malth,
The Puerto Rican festival in New Haven seemed to have come off rather peacefully. No knife fights. One idiot made an online threat against the event and he was promptly arrested. A little kid got hit by a car — that could happen anywhere, anytime — and in another part of town a community member made news by getting shot in the shoulder and walking to the hospital. The big story here is the police captain who got shot on the street. He was off duty and responded to an incident in his own neighborhood, rather heroically I might add. The assailant is still at large.
I’ve pretty much accepted that the stuff I mention on this board, the mayhem, violence, squalor, disorder, the stolen cars leading to massive wrecks, the failed schools, boarded up storefronts, unemployment, massive debt, colossal state and city governments that suck the life out of the body politic, blame everything on whitey identity politics, is just the way it is and how it will be into the near and far future, only worse. What makes the situation particularly poignant is that within living memory these were prosperous, tidy little cities, cradle of the industrial revolution. It all gone.
Brh
thanks..LOVE U or yr posts.
Your contrasting White USA history with our decline.
‘Home of Emerson?’ ‘Gun factory gone’
‘Mansions that are sec 8 slums now with muds and their APB terriers, idling on streets.’
Zimbabwe did SO well after getting rid of the whites, as did Uganda after they deported all their Asians
It all gone. – BRH
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You’re starting to talk like a member of the community.
I know you like to bust my balls Q — just like Janos does — but it was just a typo.
Brh
Official yield curve inversion now.
Time is getting close.
They may need to postpone the run to 30K…till 2030+
then what? after the collapse?
Nobody knows but when they lose control the problems will almost certainly be bigger than 2008/9.
My concern is that the whole world is getting a little nastier by the day. If the China/ USA mutual appreciation society (they send us cheap stuff and we send them technology and IOU’s) breaks down there are a lot of unsettled issues in the East. China might decide to start settling up (think Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, Korea, etc).
Then we might get our first shooting war between nuclear armed foes. Then all bets are off. Some think that China will clean up the US quickly, others think it will go opposite. The reality is that the US will control the sky and sea but China will dominate the land mass including the continental skies.
The part that is scary is that both military’s have toys that are unknown and as yet unused in the world. If half of what is talked about in whispers is true then we will all be negatively affected by such a conflict. It is highly likely that nuclear exchanges are the least of our worries.
The wheels of justice grind exceeding slow depending of course on who’s turning the crank and who they have in their sights. If the issue at hand is an act performed in aid of preserving an existing hierarchy of money and power and prerogative, then the wheels may slow, may stop, may loosen such that the individual may find a way through the gears and mechanisms.
But the mechanism in question isn’t nearly in the nature of interlocking wheels and gears, machined to fine tolerances and tightly fitted and screwed, let’s say even like a run-of-the-mill internal combustion engine or a mechanical watch.
What we’re talking about are human organizations, aggregations of misfiring, misperceiving, misconceiving, misjudging messes of meat and bone and brain and that’s on a good day. At the peak of a civilization, let’s say the Mediterranean Basin circa 100 AD, when the people resident in it are possessed of an idea of themselves, and have the energy and belief to maintain and defend this notion, then such organizations may themselves be possessed of the vim and vigor to work and strive and perform and actually accomplish something.
I only mention this because of what we saw with poor ole Robert Mueller in his unfortunate performance in front of congressional committees. He did no better than the organization he headed up, fitted out with political partisans, purportedly the best of the best, dedicated to one purpose, the righting of a historic wrong by the removal of a sitting, duly elected president.
But there’s some facts to consider, the fact of who was elected as chief executive in the first place, the fact that this individual was actually nominated by a long-established national party, the fact of who the rival party nominated as his opponent, the fact of a poorly conceived and executed intrigue to remove him using a plot-line that would scarcely convince a reasonably astute twelve year old.
These facts point to nowhere good. If Mueller looked senile, then so did the organization he led, unable to come anywhere close to their objective even given the target rich environment. They were trying to dig up shit, any shit at all, and they couldn’t do it with Trump? Gimme a fuckin’ break. And if the Republicans looked in the last stages of dementia during the whole 2016 electoral process, the Democrats looked immeasurably worse, losing a contest that by any reasonable estimation was impossible to lose given the opponent.
There’s a ton of other examples, and there aren’t enough hours in a day to go over them all, an elite fore-square behind economic arrangements that have no hope in hell, a national government in a morass of debt, banks with trillions in derivatives contracts clotting up their balance sheets, and in some places, negative interest rates. All this senility points to a civilization that’s lost its motive force, its reason for being, like someone in old age, tottering, forgetting, drooling, in more lucid moments just wishing the Good Lord will take them.
You hope the end will be quick and painless like a sick old man expiring in his sleep. But generally it ends ugly. The question is how ugly.
Three Men in a Boat not Counting Donald Trump. Inspired by Jerome K. Jerome
To look at Donald Trump you would imagine that he was an angel sent upon the earth, for some reason withheld from mankind, in the shape of a fairly large real-estate developer. There is a sort of Oh-what-a-wicked- world-this-is-and-how-I-wish-I-could-do-something-to-make-it-better-and- nobler expression about Donald Trump that has been known to bring the tears into the eyes of pious old ladies and gentlemen.
When first he came to live at my expense, I never thought I should be able to get him to stop long. I used to sit down and look at him, as he sat on the rug and looked up at me, and think: “Oh, that man will never live. He will be snatched up to the bright skies in a chariot, that is what will happen to him.”
But, when I had paid for about a dozen chickens that he had killed; and had dragged him, growling and kicking, by the scruff of his neck, out of a hundred and fourteen street fights; and had had a dead cat brought round for my inspection by an irate female, who called me a murderer; and had been summoned by the man next door but one for having a ferocious dog at large, that had kept him pinned up in his own tool-shed, afraid to venture his nose outside the door for over two hours on a cold night; and had learned that the gardener, unknown to myself, had won thirty shillings by backing him to kill rats against time, then I began to think that maybe they’d let him remain on earth for a bit longer, after all.
V
There is no use trying to explain what is going on today using the old political paradigm. GOP vs. Dem is not important.
Today, we have a group of anarchists whose goal is to destroy the USA as we know it. In every way possible. Destroy the peace and order, destroy the common culture, destroy the rule of law, destroy the Constitution. Their goal is a Communistic style single party system controlling our lives very similar to the USSR.
This is the goal of the Progressive group in our country. They use the Democratic Party to forward their plans, but as the debates have shown, they will cut the moderates throats as fast as Trump’s. Their goal is to destroy Not just Trump, but all the Deplorables. Estulin’s book shows why, the US is being drained by the international neo-Liberals and used to finance the global finance web. The capital base utilized is drugs, human trafficking, prostitution, gambling. These businesses are producing the liquidity that is keeping the globalists in business. It is a battle between the USA and the Soros crowd. To the death.
If you want to offset the J. Epstein’s et al of the world, do not support, contribute to, and especially vote for a Progressive candidate. You might as well be giving the money to Epstein, Soros, etc.
Add guns to the list.
Very nice, JAZ!
They use the Democratic Party to forward their plans, but as the debates have shown, they will cut the moderates throats as fast as Trump’s.
Apologies if I repeat myself.
The action with the progs reminds me of the way the Bolsheviks destroyed the Mensheviks in order to be the sole authority within the communist party.
Any moderate Dems remaining will realize that too late to stop the progs.
Cheers
Montsegur, as they say, history doesn’t repeat, but it sure does rhyme. And don’t apologize. Sometimes you need to repeat yourself until people get it.
And another example: no doubt you read or heard about the Night of the Long Knives aka Operation Hummingbird circa June 30 1934.
For those that haven’t, this was the purge by Hitler using his boys in the SS and the Gestapo to get rid of Ernst Rohm and others. Dozens of killings in total and a diminution of the role of the Nazi paramilitary called the SA – commonly called Storm Troopers. After this it was the SS (Schuztstaffel) – another major Nazi paramilitary – that was preeminent, especially when the Waffen SS was formed as a full-out combat organization.
People don’t learn from history. While Americans aren’t Russians and the USA isn’t the USSR and the 21st Century isn’t the 20th, it’s truly amazing how much the 21st century looks like the 20th in its general contours. Germany is still too big for Europe but too small for the world, the issues which underlay two massive wars are still percolating beneath the surface, otherwise why are we talking about the difficulty of finding a modus vivendi in western Eurasia?
Americans would do well to look over yonder and back in time. For one thing, being generally ignorant of history, Americans forget that America’s origins are in the mother continent, especially Britain, with its language being English, its law rooted in common law, its governing institutions uncannily resembling those from the UK.
But it’s not like there aren’t lessons to be learned in other places, Russia being one, especially in the upheaval around WW1 and the demise of the Romanov dynasty.
The parallels aren’t exact with 1917 but there are some with 2016 being a momentous year. For example, a lot of Americans stopped listening to neo-liberal cant. Lest we forget, neo-liberalism started in large part as a European project, the EU taking shape around neo-liberal ideas, designed to take economic power away from the town square and law-making bodies and putting it in the corporate boardroom.
The Democrats look disoriented, losing an unloseable presidential election, needing actual votes to win power, but needing also to do the bidding of their oligarch paymasters. So the question is how to best accomplish that. And so a power struggle is underway between different Democratic Party factions. As you say, look to the Menshevik-Bolshevik conflict and how that came out. History may rhyme a lot here too.
They were trying to dig up shit, any shit at all,
Shit trying to dig itself up. Lack of success unsurprising.
Cheers
Good way to put it. The lack of success is unsurprising given the profusion of maggots infesting Washington. No doubt Trump has his fair share in his own corporate woodwork but the danger in digging these out is accidentally finding those of Democratic Party insiders. Example is John and Tony Podesta and their involvement with Russian political and business interests. And Hunter Biden’s business interests in China. Don’t dig too much or you dig up things you don’t want to see.
“In any case, I don’t think Iowa farmers are calling the shots as far as Trump is concerned.“ —Exscotticus
The farmers in Iowa ARE calling the shots on Trump. In Iowa Trump is now underwater. Iowa will go Democratic. The Iowa farmers will call the shots on Trump and his tariff taxes in 2020.
>>> In Iowa Trump is now underwater.
Janet you are so funny. Didn’t you swear Trump would be impeached by now? Where’s the impeachment, little Jane?
Link to the Republican that will beat Trump for the 2020 Iowa Republican caucuses.
Apparently you didn’t read the article. Not only do Iowa farmers understand and accept Trump’s trade war strategy, but it wouldn’t even matter if they didn’t, because…
“The mistake that people make in this is to equate farmers and rural voters,” he said. “There are a lot more rural voters who are not farmers, than farmers.”
Pete Buttplug and and his husband Chasten
They’re down with the farmers and the whole rural way of life.
They like watching tractor pulls at the state fair and pie eating contests.
Is that about right, Little Jane?
Brh
Has she rebranded herself again?
Exscotticus
Sure -he’ll win the GOP primary if Weld even shows ip, but he’ll be wiped out in the General. It could even be a mirror result to Reagan’s landslide.
Right—just like his impeachment was a foregone conclusion?
Polls taken in August of 2015 did not tell you who would win in 2016. Heck, polls in the final weeks of the election didn’t tell you who would win. But go ahead and believe your fake news polls if it makes you happy.
And there you go….
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/08/12/the-epstein-mystery/
PCR really nails the overall Epstein situation. And he does it by not claiming to know exactly what happened. He just lays out how the PTBs operate when they need someone dead.
Here’s the crux of the matter in his article IMO:
“…..James Jesus Angleton, head of CIA counter-intelligence, once told me that when the CIA pulls off something, it muddies the waters by placing different and conflicting stories in the media. The result, he said, is that there is too much to investigate, and people end up arguing with one another over which story is correct, and the facts of the event are never investigated. Today with the Internet all sorts of stories can be put into play in order to cover an event in confusion.
When you hear someone trying to discredit a view by calling it a “conspiracy theory,” be suspicious. The CIA invented “conspiracy theory” in order to control the explanation of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination by discrediting skeptics of the official explanation.”
The only thing PCR left out is that now they often blame Russia for the internet confusion. Another way to take the attention off of themselves. But that one is losing its impact now, even though MSNBC is trying like hell to keep it going. More like MS(CIA)NBC.
PCR’s always on top of shit.
A short synopsis of JHK’s interview with Richard Vague is basically as follows: The US Empire is so large in dollar terms that notwithstanding the pervasive snowballing of unresolved problems by a feckless government and rising angst in the society, the “Slow Burn” and composting of the American middle class will probably go on for at least another 10 years or longer like in Japan. Is this correct?
Could be, but American society is not as homogenous, docile, and even servile as the Japanese. Plus, we’re armed to the teeth. And the population and environmental pressures have grown exponentially in the 30 years since Japanese stagflation. You readily can see now that it’s coming apart already.
At the Battle of the Somme in WWI, the British soldiers (the “Tommies”) literally walked slowly in rigid lines, shoulder-to-shoulder (carrying heavy loads of barbed wire on their shoulders) into German machine fire. The Germans literally mowed the British down and calmly reloaded. Eventually, the Germans couldn’t bear it anymore and stopped shooting out of empathy for the pathetic British soldiers being massacred. When the British later went to retrieve their dead, the Germans emerged from their trenches to help the British. Unbelievable….
This is the way that people are. At least, in an earlier separate battle, when the French ordered their African colonial troops to march into the German chlorine gas, the Africans had enough sense to balk and run away.
WWI may have been a big culling of the population to quash nascent rumblings of Communist Revolution in the society?
White Privilege
The current Epstein story is that Epstein, in a largely transparent jail cell visible to the guards and other inmates got a bed sheet, tied it into a noose around the bed post, placed the noose over his head, and then bent his knees and leaned forward to choke himself to death. Never mind that the jail sheets have the tinsel strength of paper, and Epstein weighs 200 pounds. This is the story that they’re trying to sell. It’s a joke…. I mean: You gotta be Fuck’n Shit’n Me?!
If I was the investigator looking into Epstein’s suicide and some bloke told me this story, I’d literally start laughing.
I’d literally start laughing. – Puck
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I literally started laughing over tinsel strength.
Wasn’t there a case of a dubious suicide of a bloke who was investigating the Clinton’s in which the coroner determined that it was a suicide notwithstanding that the forensics showed that the gun used to inflict the self-inflicted gunshot wound was fired at least 3 feet from the victim’s head? How does that work exactly?
Iris Chang, who wrote the book, “The Rape of Nanking” allegedly died of a suicide. They found her body parked in a car alongside a highway in California with a typewritten suicide note on the front seat. Yeah, she obviously typed up the suicide note on an old typewriter and then got into her car, parked it alongside a busy California highway and then blew her brains out with a .357 magnum after leaving the unsigned typewritten note on the front seat. This is what the Japanese Intelligence services think of the US criminal justice system.
the gun used to inflict the self-inflicted gunshot wound was fired at least 3 feet from the victim’s head? How does that work exactly? – Puck
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Long arms?
World War of the Roses by Bird Eye View
As I have repeatedly noted, a characteristic feature of the War of the Roses is that now, as well as in the 15th century, the crypto-religious nature of these wars, when the secular causes of the war mask the religious reasons.
In particular, in the 15th century, the dynastic struggle between York and Lancaster masked the war between the followers of the oldest Church on the planet of England, founded in Cornwall by Joseph of Arimathea, which, due to certain circumstances, evaded the mission to bring the Good News (Gospel) to all nations, and the Church founded by St. Patrick, which became the main Christianizer of Western Europe, since at that time Rome and the Roman Church were part of Eastern Europe.
And the need to hide the religious reasons for this war arose after its end in connection with the results of this war, when the Black World Project changed its shoes in flight and from the defender of the Catholic Church became a Protestant, that is, the deadly enemy of the Catholic Church and any talk about Christ became the same way of destabilizing society as talk of democracy became a way to destabilize the USSR and then Russia.
Moreover, the Protestants protested not against the obvious debauchery that reigned in the Catholic Church then, but against its attempts to return to Orthodoxy at least purely theologically.
In this sense, of particular interest are the comments of Sir Isaac Newton on the book of Daniel and on the role in the history of Christianity of Athanasius of Alexandria (“Paradoxical Questions Concerning the Morals and Actions of Athanasius and His Followers”).
I read the last work in my third year at the Physics and Technology and it struck me with apparent Newton’s hatred of Athanasius of Alexandria.
I was not a Christian then, but knew who Athanasius of Alexandria was, and my favorite books were “Ivanhoe”, “Quentin Durward”, and especially Stevenson’s “The Black Arrow: A Tale of the Two Roses”.
Maybe that’s why I figured out this issue more thoroughly and more impartially, finding out that Newton attacks Athanasius of Alexandria because he considers him the founder of the Catholic Church – the “Synagogue of Satan” in the opinion of not only Newton, but of the entire Anglo-Saxon civilization, which formed as a result of the War of the Roses.
And subsequently, returning to this question, I realized that Newton calls Catholic Church the Black World project of the West, with which he was very familiar. But he does not know anything about the existence of Orthodoxy in 1674, but the witchcraft that he ascribes to Athanasius of Alexandria is a self-evident evil for him, which must be fought every day not because it is superstition, but because the results it brings.
I must say that lately there have been many simply wonderful articles in the Russian Wikipedia on the topic, but I’m afraid to refer to them, because I noticed that after this the bandits of Chkhartashvili come and erase these articles, replacing them with the politically correct nonsense of the Black World Project, and for them it pays a decent money by Western standards, and Russian scholars write those articles sitting on indecent Russian pensions.
But finding these articles is still fairly easy using Google, and the Isaac Newton articles, in particular the fact that in 1672, when Newton began to be interested in theology, the main patron of Spinoza, the former Stadtholder Johan de Witt was killed in Holland, fried at the stake and eaten.
Moreover, they ate him publicly and quite ritually, in order to intimidate the supporters of de Witt, who described this procedure in detail in their memoirs, and these descriptions are strikingly consistent with the memoirs of the Byzantine Orthodox citizens who survived the capture of the city by the crusaders who raped, roasted and ate children in the altar of the Orthodox churches.
Moreover, among the crusaders there were a lot of natives of Benelux (Flemish, Holland) and there were practically no natives of Languedoc, who a few years later became the victims of the first genocide in Western Europe, organized by the same participants in the Fourth Crusade from the same Benelux.
These rituals are very reminiscent of those rituals on Epstein Island in which Hillary Clinton and children from Russia participated, the adoption of which by US citizens was forbidden after Magnitsky’s Act.
And the video in which Hillary Clinton participates, found on the computer of Huma Abedin by the FBI in October 2016, they used to convince the FBI director Comey 10 days before the election to resume the investigation of the crimes of US presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Moreover, a Russian sonofabitch, who recently proposed killing the children of the police officers, used for this an expression that the aforementioned FBI officers used to describe the aforementioned video of Hillary Clinton and which I had never heard before.
And Isaac Newton in 1696 became the manager of the Royal Mint, and leaving Cambridge took communion in the Church of England, which he also considered the Synagogue of Satan 20 years prior, and he made notes according to which the great scholar understood that in the Tower where the Mint was located, he will have to come to grips with the sect of Satanists and sorcerers, who quite consciously created the conditions for the collapse of the English financial system, because they then were consciously ruining the English economy in the same way that globalists are ruining the economy of the United States now.
This post deliberately describes only well-known and easily verifiable facts. My role was reduced to that I brought them together and presented you, my dear readers, and in the next post I will present their interpretation, including the completely obvious one, which you already understood after reading this post.
But there will be not only obvious, but very unexpected interpretations!
To be continued…
Definitely on the spectrum…
LOL!
I see by the news that stock market is showing signs of a possible recession, and it causes me to wonder how the spin will go. Will Trump take the blame, or will they blame Hillary or Obama? I’ve got no dog in this fight, because I hate ’em all, but if we go into recession, somebody will have to get the blame, and it will be entertaining to to watch both sides spin the news. In my understanding of things, when administrations change, it takes some time for the new administration to effect their new economic programs, and so in some cases, sometimes for a couple of years, things are still tied to the previous administration.
Trump has been in office now for a couple of years, and it seems fair enough to me that he should get the credit, or blame, for what ever happens economically. He’s been crowing about job growth and other things, so it seems like he’s assuming the stewardship of the country’s economy. I don’t know if we’re headed for trouble or not, if we are, let’s see who gets blamed. If things perk up, I expect Trump to get the credit, and by now, deservedly so.
My own personal opinion is that if things are headed south, The Republican reaction should be another round of tax cuts, along with further deregulation of industries. This has been touted as the remedy needed to get the economy back into the swing, so let’s go for it, like they say, put your money where your mouth is. It’s my opinion, and I hope I’m off the mark. Time will tell, and in this rapidly changing world, I don’t think it’ll take long.
No particular fan of Trump, but stock market news is always spun to the advantage of whatever administration’s in charge at the moment. Why people continue to focus on it as indicative of anything is beyond me.
There are two distinctly separate economies in the world today. The market economy you hear trumpeted on the news everyday, which is little more than a global casino economy for the rich fucks; and the everyday productive (or lack thereof) economy in which most of us actually live. The former will continue to boom, as it’s the only game left in town for the rich; while the latter will continue to die on the vine, as the rich no longer have any interest in supporting it.
As long as people continue to look to Federal institutions, world governments, and corporate capitalist institutions for solutions the problem will persist. The Great Bottleneck is on top of us now and many in the first world are now finding out what those in the third world already know: they’re in the crosshairs for elimination.
Why is the stock market performance conflated with the health of the economy, when the reality, especially these last 10 years, when its a reflection of the ‘easy money’ zeitgeist & particularly the low-interest rate environment, which was intended to drive capital to risk in search of yield.
“Never mind that the jail sheets have the tinsel strength of paper” —Pucker
Why did he have a bedsheet that could be fashioned into a noose? They should have given him a thin foil-backed space blanket, you know … the kind they give kidnapped babies forced to sleep on concrete floors after their parents are arrested by ICE and deported.
The foil blankets are given to those covered in lice, scabies, etc. Very typical situation for people of any age from third world locales.
You started working at your local illegals processing centre. SSL? Bet you’d love the uniform, the taserand the legal right to push ‘browns’ around. You’d probably do it for free.
Trump’s tariffs against China may be just forcing US companies to move production to Vietnam and Mexico rather than returning jobs to the US? I wonder why the corporate media doesn’t call him out on this instead of pushing the race war?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-14/trump-2020-rust-belt-pitch-threatened-by-manufacturing-recession
Insightful short, just under 7 min, video by a very wise beyond his years Millennial who’s YT channel is called ‘Economic Invincibility’. This vid is called ‘Liberal Words Matter’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NUJnZxj5lI&t=329s
I’ll just make this a 2fer. Here’s a vid he made recently about Edward Windsor. Of coarse that’s the Royal Edward Windsor who abdicated just before WW2. I actually learned some details about this in which I was unaware. Very interesting for those who, well, may be interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zytCkXrOqh4
“My own personal opinion is that if things are headed south…” —CS
After today’s DOW plunge of 800 points my personal opinion is that things are going south, maybe to a DOW of 4,000.
Trump is wrecking the economy. He is putting on a Santa hat because he knows consumers are going to be hammered hard due to Trump tariff taxes increasing the price of everything by 25% but it is too late now.
Trump started the trade war. China, Russia, and Iran will finish it. The the 4 C’s (Constitution, Courts, Congress, and Citizens in No. 2020) Their combined resilience and patriotism will take care of Trump with 3 hots and a cot. No conjugal visits.
This economy was going to wreck no matter who ended up being President right now. The problems are systemic and go waaaaaaay back.
After getting my prostate checked by the doctor the other day, I don’t think that I’ll become a Homosexual anytime soon. I literally groaned like the character Bobby in the movie “Deliverance” when the doctor stuck his finger up there.
I don’t know how Pete and Chaz Buttigieg get off on that?
At least the Chinese doctor was well-educated and had a bit of class, not like the Hillbilly who did Bobby.
Does homosexual just mean butt fucking to you? You do realize it is possible for a homosexual couple to have a loving, emotionally intimate relationship without involving the prostate? Same as for heterosexuals and gender-fluid couples. Are you obsessed with butt fucking? Are you an incel?
What?
Does homosexual just mean butt fucking to you? – krugperson
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Not at all. I’m sure there are lots and lots of blow jobs too.
So not that much different from heteros then, as I keep pointing out. If it weren’t that I’d been led to believe so many of the people on this site are pretty much the same age as me – and a good few even older – I could be forgiven for concluding that there are a lot of 14-year-olds on here.
Lol! Perfect.
What about the “Front Hole”?
” literally groaned like the character Bobby in the movie “Deliverance”
Puck,
Silly goose…he did not groan, but rather squealed like a pig….
If I remember correctly, Bobby was squealing and then the Hillbilly penetrated Bobby’s anus which prompted Bobby to groan in agony. That’s basically what happened to me when the ethic Chinese doctor checked my prostate. I mean: that’s what happened except for the squealing. No squealing….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WqNMjZpSbnU
Pete and Chaz….
There’s a series of 18 prostate exam jokes, designed to be deployed on the golf course – one for each green and tossed into the conversation just as your opponent is putting…
EG ” Hey, Doc, let me know when you’ve found my dignity…”
and my favorite
Doctor: “How many fingers am I holding up?”
To be more specific. Wednesday the yield on ten-year Treasury bonds fell below the yield on two-year bonds. That is what is known as an “inversion.” That means we are headed toward a recession. That is why Trump put on the Santa hat. It is data-driven, not just my personal opinion. This recession definitely belongs to Trump. How many will lose their cars, their houses, their lives in this Republican recession?
That means we are headed toward a recession. – krugperson (aka Asoka)
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Not necessarily. As I pointed out a couple of weeks ago, every recession has been preceded by an inverted yield curve but not every inverted yield curve has been followed by a recession. Another way to look at it is that there have been more inverted yield curves than recessions.
Despite this hopeful factoid I feel we are a bit overdue for a recession.
Let the good times roll! Sheet. Let’s rock like it’s 2019!!! Everything is GO GO GO On the North Shore of MA and Southern ME coast the pepes are lookin’ rich in these parts.
He did what? Trump blinked and backed down.
In confirming the postponement of the new tariffs until December 15th, Trump said, “We’re doing this for the Christmas season, just in case some of the tariffs would have an impact on the U.S. consumers.” So tariffs aren’t costless to consumers, after all. Nor to the markets nor to the broader economy.
A 1,000 point fall since August 1 was a clue, but Trump is inept and clueless and his cluelessness is the cause of market volatility.
Don’t hire a businessman with a string of bankruptcies and bailouts from daddy and fake bonespurs to be commander in chief.
>>> A 1,000 point fall since August 1 was a clue
LOL. Talk about cherry-picked data! Even Trump-hating CNN reports that stocks are up 29% since Trump took office.
Of course Trump can never win with TDS Dems. If he does exactly what Wall Street wants (like Obama did) then he’s a stooge. If he fights for Main Street, then TDS Dems like Janet here complain that the Dow is falling! Gosh, Janet, I didn’t realize you care so much about Wall Street. I mean just a few posts above you’re arguing that they should be taxed some more. So much flip-floppy! Can you make up your mind?
Beto has declared Trump a “White Supremacist”, and Trump supporters “White Supremacists”, which is dehumanizing language tantamount to calling a group of people “cockroaches” or “Vermin”. It’s going Off-the-Deep-End.
That’s nothing! AOC said ALL WHITES harbor the “disease” of white supremacy “from birth”! Doesn’t matter if you’re a Trump supporter or not.
Ex
Sounds like the original sin theory.
I don’t need to tell you, with this ceaseless villification of whitey in the MSM, by the Dem pres candidates, and on campus — people are beginning to take note. Even whites who are not necessarily political or lean a little left are getting nervous, even more so if they have young sons and daughters.
The US is not like SA or Zimbabwe where whites make up a small portion of the total population and are easily victimized. No, we are 200 million strong! When push comes to shove we will not be going down easy, IMHO.
Brh
>>> Sounds like the original sin theory.
Yes—she even used the term (and mixed her metaphors in the process).
AOC sounds more and more like a Deep State operative.
Why? I mean they teach exactly this in College now, certainly at her alma mater, leftist Boston University. Thus she is naturally in accordance with the Deep State without any overt or special allegiances being in place.
In terms of William James’ Philosophy of Pragmatism, the idea that Whites are uniquely evil is one of great “Cash Value” (his vulgar terminology) – for Non-Whites that is. Our Credit is their Debit.
only because the term WS has been demonized.
No its not off the deep end at all. Did you ever suspect that White race traitors or Brownies would think any differently? Shame on you if so but I doubt you were ever totally fooled. It’s really easy. They love their people and their cause. It’s time Whites do the same.
GreenAlba, I dunno but seems like a waste of taxpayer dollars to me…
The Home Office has come under fire after launching an anti-knife crime campaign focused on fried chicken shops.
How about they not print those boxes and citizens get a tax break instead?
It seems a waste of money to all sane people, Exscotticus.
But who’s at the head of the Home Office? Oh, that would be Priti Patel* (aka Priti Vacant) who’s as thick as mince. Appointed by Alexander Boris de Pfeffel J., of whom no more for now, except that he hasn’t chosen his cabinet members exactly for their prowess at government.
But one could thing could come out of the publicity (but probably won’t). Americans on this site and elsewhere are fond of blaming the failure to reduce knife crime (which has been quietly decimated in Scotland by saner, more holistic means) on the Mayor of London, for reasons that shouldn’t be too difficult to work out.
Perhaps it will penetrate their heads that crime doesn’t come under the remit of the Mayor but of the Home Office (also responsible for immigration). Possibly they would lose interest in blaming the wrong person once that person wasn’t brown coloured and Muslim flavoured, but a shiny white Tory – what do you think?
*Also, Priti Vacant, who is now In charge of the nation’s security, was sacked as international development secretary for lying about conducting her own unofficial foreign policy by arranging secret meetings with Israeli officials while on holiday.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/priti-patel-accused-of-breaching-ministerial-code-for-second-time
And now she’s looking dodgy again. Boris really does pick ’em.
That’s not a bad salary, though, is it – £1000/hour? One could see it would be tempting if the day job’s salary isn’t stratospheric enough for such an er… achiever.
one *good* thing, even…
Sounds like a great campaign slogan.
PP for PM!
But don’t despair GreenAlba. You just need a spot of courage … Courage Best Bitter, that is.
Cheers
Slàinte mhath, montsegur – but I’ll stick with a G&T, thanks. 🙂
Seen on Twitter…
“Trump, Putin & Boris Johnson walk into a bar…no, WAIT! That isn’t a joke anymore!”
And the little people think it was all about them. As Pete S wrote, ‘When will they every learn?”
“ Even Trump-hating CNN reports that stocks are up 29% since Trump took office” —ex
LOL. Take away their Trump-Hater cards! Unless they mentioned that in the same first 645 days Obama had stocks up 46% … and performance despite NOT being born in Kenya.
After 1959 Hawaii was a state of the United States of America with a long-form birth certificate. Trump had to admit his “birtherism” was a lie that he pushed for five years.
Trump was wrong about that, about white supremacy, and about so many other things like the Trump tariffs tax increase on consumers.
Plays more golf than Obama, too.
>>> Obama had stocks up 46%
Is that so? Gosh you Dems should have taxed the shit out of Wall Street when you had the chance. Oh well!
Couldn’t do that, no could they? They’d have pissed off their core constituency.
6 of those 8 years of Obama were GOP run house & senate. The first 2, when Obama had some clout, were in the depths of the GFC. You accuse others of cherry-picking?
What a two-faced wanker you are.
(Ex, not Ol’ Scratch, of course)
Maybe Mr. Krugman has seen a HI birth certificate with the elusive foot print? But who cares, Mission Accomplished: Merkel has done what Martell delayed, thanks to BO red line shenanigans….
Maybe this far down the thread is a good place to corner the smart money and again suggest all due haste replication of the circa 1970’s US agriculture rail branch network, famine hedge in case EMP does unpredictable things to motor transport food distribution?
Certainly there are several dozen Billionaire club members with suspicions regarding False Flag EMP and kinetic attack on the grid are probable to a degree warranting enhancement of the branch railway matrix.
Rail savvy persons of wealth are not common, most such people having learned the details of the parallel bar profession via researching and acquiring expensive collectible models…There is an Industrial Engineering firm in San Francisco, Christopher Swan Suntrain Corporation, with business plan for renewable wind & Solar railway operations suited to agricultural food distribution via steel wheel on rail. The webmaster has contact info.
You’re assuming the Billionaire Boys Club gives a shit about food distribution to the hoi polloi. An EMP attack on the grid would be the perfect tactic to cull the herd. Why waste the opportunity?
Stock prices are indicative of nothing, other than the availability of Fed issued funny money to drive them up. That money could have been used to drive real economy productivity, but that’s not deemed productive enough anymore when there are gambling returns available on Wall Street.
Right on the button, Ol’ Scratch.
Vlad,
” Many know much but remain utter fools, unable to use what they know.” ?
Is that you or a quote?. It is good.
Thanks. I think it’s just an observation by me, but no doubt many have said it over the centuries, probably better than I did or could. Of course I’ve read so much that sometimes the line between what’s mine and what isn’t get blurred or forgotten.
The narrative is almost complete. If you think so, and wish so, it will be so.
Great story, we had a nice run. Still could be great, for a few dollars more.
Somewhere along the path the money took control, and we got sold out.
I saw it all happen in real time. Little by little America turned into Walmart parking lots.
That is a hell of a way to go out.
Yes, Walt Whitman went from being the Cosmic Cheerleader for America in his Leaves of Grass to being a bitter pessimist about us near the end of his short life. Did things really change so much in a decade or two? Or did he just learn to see deeper?
The incredible energy he so admired was always driven largely by greed. Almost by definition, a “pioneer” is imbalanced. “Strike it rich” and become one of the good people has ever been our ethos. As our Walt said, we have no ethic here of the righteous poor whatsoever.
Walt Whitman……………….. near the end of his short life. – Janos
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Where do you get this crap? He lived 72 years.
I accept your correction. For some reason, I though he had died much younger. That was a good lifespan for that time, certainly.
Bent – you stated you’d been to my Turangawaewae (Aotearoa New Zealand) and would come back (despite the evil socialists turning it into a quasi-Venezuela).
Was that when you were US Navy? What ship was it and when?
This stud ain’t no dud, and I guess you can’t call him blue balls.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/blueface-now-claims-hes-slept-180859114.html
And here’s this move by the NFL and Goodell forming an “entertainment and”, are you ready, “social justice partnership” with Jay-Z and Roc Nation.
https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/14/jay-z-colin-kaepernick-nfl-partnership/
The playing field must not become a battle field. The players must be pacified, the fans placated, and the dollars kept at a peak.
Of course the Arena was never totally Pure, but man, it’s tough to put up with all this shit.
TS
Wouldn’t it be funny if it turns out Blue Face has AIDS or some other nasty STD? Which is almost certain he does.
Brh
Apparently, new Sanctuary City municipal laws in New Haven state that illegals cannot be arrested by local police under any circumstances. This is causing not a little confusion. Citizens can and are arrested in New Haven for J walking and having an open container of beer on the Green. But illegals — tens of thousands of them who have made their way here from crapholes across all points of the 3rd world — are somehow immune from laws — felonies even.
Brh
Murder? wtf?
from UNZ
Chicongo: Interesting and feel-good story from the frontlines. Six black “teens” from the south-side of Chicago decided to conduct a crime spree 50 miles away in the wealthy northwest suburbs of Lake County on August 13th. They decided to steal a car from the driveway of a 75-year old white man who lived in Old Mill Creek, IL. This man heard something suspicious at 1am, called 911 and confronted a black savage in a hoodie (it was 90 degrees out that night btw) attempting to break into his car. At which point 5 more black teens (1 of them a she-boon) jumped out of a Lexus (stolen 2 days earlier) to intimidate and attack the homeowner armed with a knife and tire iron. The old man pulls out his revolver, lights them up and strikes a 14-year old thug. The whole group hastily retreats and before pulling onto the expressway dumps their now dead 14-year old accomplice and his cousin onto the street before racing back to Chicago (wait…the story gets better). The Lake County Sherriff and Illinois State Police engage in a 120 mph chase which ends up back in the city where the stolen Lexus SUV runs out of gas (that whole future time orientation thing again) in front of news cameras! They bail out but K-9 units and the CPD track down the remaining 4 hiding in dumpsters in a nearby alley. The thug in the black hoodie upon peeking out of the dumpster to see several officers pointing carbines and a hungry K-9 at him actually pissed and crapped himself (he was taken to a hospital to clean up before lockup).
Now if this happened in Cook County the 5 would have most likely been charged with misdemeanors and traffic offenses…but Lake County ain’t Cook County. Instead they were all charged with Felony Murder and the Lake County Sheriff’s Department issued a statement stating that their residents are armed and they will back their citizens who defend themselves and their property. How refreshing is that?
The CPD kept their fingers crossed that the old man wouldn’t be charged by a left-wing prosecutor or harassed by the media and made into the next George Zimmerman. (Street cops especially know full well how racial socialism can turn on police or citizens defending themselves nowadays). So far that hasn’t been the case but I’m hearing war drums in the distance coming from the radical left.
A legally armed white man (probably {gasp} a Republican) successfully defending himself against young violent black predators is not a story BRA wants to get out. And Black Dindus from Chicago spreading out like a cancer and terrorizing rural areas in Illinois and Indiana is definitely not a story this city wants to get out. I’m hearing some law school and journalism graduates from Northwestern and University of Chicago are investigating the old man and his wife and BLM are desperate to target him on social media. I’ll keep you posted if BRA turns on him and he needs legal and financial assistance.
Wow! What a story. Good for Grandpa! I know what BLM is, but what is BRA?
Paul Kersey has a thing that USA is run by rich but for Benefit of afros.
Black Run for benefits America.
The kid killed was named Jaquan Swopes, age 14.
“He was a good boy, minding his own business, dreaming of going to Harvard, when he was killed an an old racist white man for no reason”.
Brh
” actually pissed and crapped himself”
Malthuss,
Suspects piss themselves on a regular basis when they are cautioned with enthusiasm….
No mention, however, of the usual “wood shampoo”….
Good story, Malth.
Its nice to see Whitey fighting back, and winning.
‘Community Members’ were in this neighborhood in Dec, stealing cars. They were in my own driveway … raiding the suburbs must be a nationwide phenonema … the words gone out apparently, get whitey where he lives. They went to my neighbors house, he is an officer of the court, which brought the state police and AGs office here as well as the local PD. Not having any luck they went up to what we call Mafia Hill — Paul Manaforts old neighborhood — and did steal 2 cars up there, nice ones too. The very next morning community members in one of the stolen cars got unto a shootout with Hartford Police in front of the state capitol. Such is life in our little lefty paradise.
The state legislature — worried that too many ‘community members’ are in prison — have responded by decriminalizing many aspects of car theft, reducing it to a misdemeanor, raising the age of culpability etc. Now the action seems to have moved to eastern Ct, with raiders operating out of New London, formerly a Whaling Port, now a welfare colony.
Brh
wilding
CNN’s Anderson Cooper says the demographic decline of American Whites is exciting. Anderson Cooper worked for the CIA at one time and some suggest he is still a CIA operative. Is the CIA one of the orchestrators of the Great Replacement? Because they are on the cusp of victory it seems like they simply can’t hold in the excitement anymore.
https://summit.news/2019/08/14/cnns-anderson-cooper-says-demographic-decline-of-white-americans-is-exciting/
Pooper Scooper. Yet another tiresome infotainer working for the Weapons of Mass Distraction. Baghdad Bob, USA style.
Cheers
Lol yes there is that whole aspect too.
His homosexuality, SSL? How is that actually relevant?
The real question is why? What is making these white “traitors” want to encourage the decline of Whiteness in the US. What is in it for a white, rich homosexual to betray his own “race”? Why the reverse racism? How can you call what the pseudo whites doing racism in the first place? In our competitive country, I can understand ethnocentrism between Blacks and Whites, or Latinos and Whites, but White on white mystifies me. And do not make me laugh by saying they are just being nice.
Janos, I feel myself being drawn kicking and screaming into your camp, but not by the Browns but by the White traitors who are causing the political unrest in the first place. Why don’t we send all the White apologists over to South Africa where they will be welcome.
The White race traitors are positioning themselves for what they believe will be positions of authority in the new order once the majority White population is overthrown. I am sure that is what they are being told even now as they are receiving full support from the organizations leading this charge. But the reality is that in due time, once Whites are dispossessed of any real political power, these White race traitors will also be sacrificed. Those who believe themselves to be the true Elites are in the shadows and unseen at this time. Even though we do know who they are.
I am certain Janos would rather you come to our camp willingly and of your own accord. I think you will be convinced of the importance of this in and of its own merit rather than simply coming to us because there is no where else to turn.
White women and male White leftists to the back of the PUSH Coalition.
Maybe should be called the CARAMEL & COFFEE Coalition?
I don’t believe you. Your Christianity doesn’t allow it. The Soul is everything to you, and thus Race must be nothing. Thus any differences are always chalked up to culture alone. And thus the Blacks and Browns will continue to be adopted by you people to show us haters that race is nothing. It is by no means just a Leftist thing. Or to put it another way, your churches and culture have gone over to the Left. Just because the “Left” is further Left now doesn’t change the fact of what has happened.
I agree, the entire culture and narrative has been shifting more and more “leftward” for a long time now.
Some factoids about Anderson Cooper:
“Cooper attended Yale, of course, which also happens to be a huge recruiting ground for the CIA. WITH NO SURPRISE, Cooper became a member of a SECRET SOCIETY called the Manuscript Society. He might as well have joined the Skull & Bones! Just remember what JFK had to say about secret societies!
According to his own biography, during college, Cooper spent two summers as an intern at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). This means that he is very likely to be what is commonly referred to as an “agent,” an “operative,” or a “plant.” For me, this internship automatically send his credibility into the sub-zero region. And of course, after he left the CIA, Cooper immediately entered Myanmar on his own, under no news outlet, with a forged press pass and met with students fighting the Burmese government. Hmmm… that doesn’t sound AT ALL like being an “agent,” now does it? Cooper’s actions have “Operation Mockingbird” written all over them. As many already know, the CIA has repeatedly used secret agents to forment revolutions in foreign countries around the world in order to overthrow leaders that are unfriendly to corporate interests, and install puppet regimes that can be controlled.
In the article, “Anderson Cooper’s Private War” by Po Bronson; Men’s Journal, March 2007, Cooper discusses his coverage of the Rwandan Genocide, and reveals his ” macabre fascination” with death, as he “whipped out his disposable camera” to take a picture of the hand of a woman’s corpse, because her skin “was peeling off like a glove.” Apparently, someone took a picture of him doing it, and showed it to him, and he was allegedly impacted enough to switch jobs, but only temporarily, of course. Hmmm… This says a lot about Cooper’s level of detachment from humanity… Having everything you need in life, materially, while being completely self-insulated from society, must be TERRIBLY BORING.
Finally, Cooper was, of course, an actual ACTOR, at one point. Between 2001-2002, he starred as the host of the ABC network reality series, “The Mole” (oh, the irony of that title, considering his work with the CIA! Talk about “hidden in plain sight”!). He stayed on board the show for its first two seasons!”
http://acidrayn.com/2011/02/02/anderson-cooper-rich-elitist-cia-operative-professional-actor/
Very very interesting. Thank you for sharing this!
You bet.
I left out the part where he is the son of the recently deceased Gloria Vanderbilt because I figured that most here know that already. But just in case there are some who don’t I’m mentioning it now.
So through his mother he is a descendant of the 19th century tycoon Cornelius Vanderbilt.
Ah! A direct link to the robber barons!
Knowing all that stuff about Anderson Cooper and his missions performed for the CIA,I guess that means he wasn’t a very secret agent.
foment
Where’s the part that says he pounds butts (with alacrity!)?
Oh that’s just understood.
Fascinating!
There are studies from 2016 that show that the source of the difference between liberals and conservatives may partially be genetic. A dopamine receptor gene is different between Liberals and conservatives. Liberals seem to relish novelty and change and conservatives, not so much. Like any other trait, environment can effect the genetics. Not even close to a 100% correlation but statistically significant.
Googled dopamine politics
Lil Jane bot can blame it on her parents, or her programmer.
Yes, a bit more verification that culture springs forth from the DNA itself. This is what we have been preaching and we don’t even need thousands of scientific studies. If you like to people watch you will understand. Anecdotes for sure, but evidence no less.
Excuse me, I didn’t mean to stumble into the sand box this week, but here I am.
I just wanted to offer my opinion on the purported genetic differences between liberals and conservatives.
BULLSHIT!
The terms cannot even be defined with any significant degree of agreement. How does anyone ascribe differences, let alone the source of the differences, to two supposed entities that cannot be definitively described?
Did I mention? BULLSHIT!
~toktomi~
Conservatives tell you they’re going to fuck you in plain English before they fuck you, with no apologies or explanations afterward whatsoever. They’re bloodthirsty lions, out for the kill.
Liberals lie and tell you they’re going to do something to “improve your life” before they fuck you the same as or even more severely than a conservative would, then laugh at you for being so stupid to believe them in the first place. They’re snakes, lying in wait.
But either way, they’re both going to fuck you. Pick your poison.
Yes you did mean to stumble in don’t be bashful lol. So these differences are simply based on experience and environment? Do you think that people are predisposed to differing dispositions based on their genetic makeup though?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7353967/Did-Jeffrey-Epstein-portrait-Bill-Clinton-blue-dress-red-heels-NYC-mansion.html?fbclid=IwAR3ke8-GSdwwK8mQT1XOxdNSRwn_hWQFigzQZq1m5jw9IiBuHP5NRYUqKos
“Parsing Bill” is what the painting is called..
can this Epstein story get any weirder??
I think it will get weirder and darker. What we’ve seen so far is just the top crust of a rancid pie.
Cheers
yeah I think you’re right. I wonder if the FBI found any video recordings on Pedo Island of Dershowitz, Richardson, etc.. getting nasty with some 14 year old girl or other. Or maybe worse? I don’t think only sex went down on the island. I don’t think the bones of some unfortunates is out of the question.
Ewww that is yucky. You know I actually do feel sorry for Monica. I bet she loved him at one time even, I mean she did tell him she had a major crush on him. It makes sense that he would deny it all but the way he and Hillary have smeared her, I can see how it would be a major trauma. No wonder she lost so much self esteem and got fat. She was made fun of so much just for making a mistake of falling for a very powerful man who made her feel like she was special. I feel that this picture is his way of saying I enjoyed you, and I ruined you.
oh no doubt. Easily can see how a young, impressionable, attractive (although on the plain side, imho) woman like M.L. would hookup with the most powerful guy in the world.. a guy like Bill probably gave her a false promise or two about her future at the White House, and a sob story about being married to a reptile like HRC to make Monica feel OK about being with him.
LOL reptile :-).
https://tenor.com/view/kfkfkfjfjf-reptillian-gif-4910417
that turn U on, SSL ??
heh heh
I think that will cause me to have a nightmare lol. At what speech was he moving his tongue like that I wonder. Maybe he was feeling uncomfortable in his skin suit at the time?
She loved the idea of him. Most love stories are just fantasies. That’s why they come and go so quickly, as reality all too soon reveals the fantasy to be just that.
I can’t and I won’t accept this, but I understand what you are getting at.
Yes, you’re still a hopeless romantic. But deep down you know it’s true.
Hmmm!
Epstein’s hyoid bone ( front of neck) was broken. Dr. Seigel on Fox says that suicide could cause that but it makes him more suspicious of homicide. He also wonders why the condition of the body has not been made public yet, especially bruising or other injury.
Good questions!
I feel comforted, the FBI are on scene. In a pig’s eye.
Pretty soon we’ll find out his neck got broken on a grassy knoll.
I wonder if Jimmy Sancticomeyous has been recalled to duty to be an investigator for this case. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
Cheers
Not to mention the pathologist who performed the Epstein autopsy was also the guy who did the same for … get this … both MLK and JFK. Must be as old as the hills by now.
Are the jesters of the universe mocking us, or what?
Cheers
JFK???
56 years ago?
Holy Sh#t that puts him in Breadline Bernie territory!
????
Ya not clear.
Meant that if this guy performed autopsies in 1963 he must be at least 85 now (and still doing autopsies)
Brh
It doesn’t even seem realistic.
It is -not- realistic; it is surreal. Read on. (I guess he only observed the Epstein autopsy, but nonetheless … )
NEW YORK — He testified for O.J. Simpson’s defense, helped investigate the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr., hosted an HBO show and brought his pathology expertise to bear on celebrity deaths and police killings.
Now Dr. Michael Baden is enmeshed in another high-stakes case, as the private pathologist who observed Jeffrey Epstein’s autopsy on his lawyers’ behalf.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/epstein-death-puts-renowned-pathologist-back-in-spotlight/2019/08/12/99419e1c-bd44-11e9-a8b0-7ed8a0d5dc5d_story.html
Baden is 85 years old, btw.
Cheers
Noticed that too. Is it even possible?
Yeah those almost paper thin bed sheets in the MCC can certainly break the hyoid bone of a 200 lb dude. I’m convinced! No more speculation is warranted. So hush up all you conspiracy theorists!
If the body that was actually shown is real after all. I don’t even know if I believe that anymore.
The expression ‘chimp out’ has come to mean a certain type of behavior by a certain kind of human. But I swear, last night watching a vid of the disrespect shown by that certain segment to the cops in Philly made me reappraise my privilege. smh.
We knew it wasn’t a white guy early on just from the distinct lack of reporting on the perp or his race. Story will be purged by tomorrow. No media dwelling on this one for weeks—doesn’t fit the narrative.
In lieu of the usual race angle, they went for the guns… bad! motif. But that’s falling flat as well. The guy was a career criminal; what gun laws would have stopped this? Moreover, the number of rounds expended detracts from their claims that ten rounds is all anyone ever needs. Tell that to the police.
I’ve been content to hang out in the bleachers and read. SSL is getting so good that I am content to read her comments and not add anything.
Little by little, most of you are nibbling around the edges of my trademarked, and guaranteed to work, solution to the problem. A few of you already know about it.
Furthermore, how long can our Benevolent Host continue to describe the symptoms of “Sepsis of the Body Politic(TM)” and not call for the strongest antibiotic treatment? Treatments currently farbotn to mention, at least in the CFN comment section.
As an influential host, I’m sure that JHK knows his vast readership gives his voice a natural force multiplier and that he must be careful. That means he has to semiotically assemble controversial ideas in our heads, LEGO blocks style. The Tribe has no problem shutting up one of their own, as we’ve all seen.
Thank you Jim. I very much appreciate that Mr. K allows us to post here. He is generous to say the least given the current atmosphere of draconian censorship, shadow banning and de-platforming. Some things are best left unsaid at this point unfortunately. I know we are supposed to be a free country (wink wink) and all but..
“Some things are best left unsaid at this point unfortunately. ”
Why so coy? Florid Jim was quite open on the previous thread, where he was advocating that the ‘martyrs’ take out ‘high-value targets’.
Listening ears and watching eyes on here have already filled in the blanks anyway, I’d imagine. Maybe, following their observations, they’ve got you in a training presentation as an interesting case of grooming.
That’s if they’ve stopped laughing at ‘farbotn’.
JimInFlorida:
“SSL is getting so good that I am content to read her comments and not add anything.”
Really? What medication does one abuse to gain insight into her fluffy, contradictory, unfocussed ravings?
You’re just going to have to get used to the fact that some people appreciate me whether you do or don’t. Though it won’t be too much longer that you’ll be seeing things our way anyway. You’re going to have to try to be more open-minded and less abstract.
Huh? So, you believe YOU’RE open-minded and CONCRETE in your thinking?
You also believe that your soft-minded ravings & Janos’ pathetic quasi-intellectual rants will ‘persuade’ me?
Hahaha…you make me chuckle too, SSL.
..not quasi intellectual – that implies some basis in reality. I meant to say ‘pseudo intellectual rants’
The insanity of the Jeffrey Epstein extravaganza is not about who did what to whom and when.
The insanity is that it is being thrust into the public media and that the details are being discussed by otherwise, [ostensibly] perfectly sane people.
This episode and the entire cast of bat shit crazy events that have invaded, captured, and dominate the public consciousness and eventscape are no more worthy of the discussion of their particulars than are the aromatic pleasures of bull shit.
Their pertinence exists only in the question that they beg; what objective is being met by splashing all of the insanity across the public landscape and what the fuck does it portend for the life expectancy of industrial human society?
And there, kids, is where the only real discussion begins. The rest is nothing more that pissing yourselves in your little sandbox and playing in your own shit. Time is running short and you may want to consider growing up.
Naturally, I could be wrong, but that doesn’t really matter to anything or anybody.
~toktomi~
You might be right for the most part, but still a bit patronizing, perhaps?
I also wonder what we are being distracted from. But then again, I am sure that if the powers that be want something hidden, then it will not be found. So how do you propose we assess what the net effect of all of this will be on industrial human society? What can be trusted and what can’t? That seems to be the dilemma of our time. In so many ways it seems like the end of the world is around the corner. But that notion itself is as old as the hills too.
Trump appearing in New Hampshire tonite; they’re already lining up, a full house expected, about 11000 enthusiastic fans.
thanks for the heads up.. I’ll have to see if its on youtube
I think the man probably is dead. They like to cast out a lot of wild hair conspiracy theories just to confuse the public, get them squabbling over nothing. The important point is that it stinks & they’ve become so brazen that they don’t even care what the public thinks anymore. They’re above the law & they laugh at the punks who think nobody should be above the law. That’s so 20th century.
It sends a message, that’s what this means. Seth Rich wasn’t clear enough.
Ok well that perspective makes sense too. Whatever happened to Epstein either way, your point about them being above the law and brazen about it, yeah they couldn’t have made it any clearer. The lines in the sand have been drawn.
As Hitler said, they are harder than most modern Whites – willing to do what is necessary. As one Black poster on Amren said, they sure don’t make Whites like they used to.
To will the End is to will the Means. We have forgotten this. They have not. We have so much to learn from them. This is different than becoming a fan boy of them. That is despicable idolatry. In any case, until we remember: They live. We sleep.
I am ready to remember.
Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.”
– David Burge
“…within an established totalitarian regime the purpose of propaganda is not to persuade, much less to inform, but rather to humiliate. From this point of view, propaganda should not approximate to the truth as closely as possible: on the contrary, it should do as much violence to it as possible. For by endlessly asserting what is patently untrue, by making such untruth ubiquitous and unavoidable, and finally by insisting that everyone publicly acquiesce in it, the regime displays its power and reduces individuals to nullities.”
“Apart from the massacres, deaths and famines for which communism was responsible, the worst thing about the system was the official lying: that is to say the lying in which everyone was forced to take part, by repetition, assent or failure to contradict. I came to the conclusion that the purpose of propaganda in communist countries was not to persuade, much less to inform, but to humiliate and emasculate.”
“If you are held responsible for what I do and I held responsible for what you do, does that make us not friends but mutual spies? Normal human bounds are dissolved by collective responsibility, to be repealed by distrust, fear, dissembling and withdrawal”
“It is countries with no dissent, which live in the quiet of the grave, that are vulnerable and fragile.”
– Anthony Daniels, The Wilder Shores Of Marx: Journeys In A Vanishing World
I’m not sure if American workers are benefiting from the trade war with China? US Companies may be just relocating to Vietnam, Mexico, etc.? It may be just a Deep State attack on China? No Wall; No Repatriated Jobs; No Lock Her Up; No End of the Wars; No Rebuilt Infrastructure. Trump may deserve to lose?
The American people are too stupid to notice.
How about getting rid of the Resistance, Pucker? You think Trump enjoys having his requests slammed down over and over.
Could well lose.
On top of everything else we’ll have Pres Warren giving Commissar Putin an earnest schoolmarm lecture on racism, and VP Buttplug will be engaging Xi on LBGTQ rights for the million Muslims locked down in labor camps in western China.
Maybe one of the Libs here can explain what’s going to happen when the borders are opened up and ICE is abolished, as promised.
Brh
BRH
Open the dialogue a little.
What will the US be like if you extrapolate what the Liberals are espousing right now?
Gun rights? What gun rights? Amendment 2 was written to prevent the take over of the people by the government. A socialistic takeover can never tolerate guns.
Taxes. Tax those rich folks. Until they either run away or run out of money, then those nasty little taxes pass to the middle class, you and me. It is always the middle class that pays the taxes. Tax the middle class into servitude to the government.
Welfare. Increase the people on welfare then rename it UBI. Increase public dependence on the government. Decrease personal responsibility until everyone thinks that dependence is normal. Convince each new generation that dependence is the normal condition and independence is an anathema.
Free press. Get rid of this one now. The Press is left and is owned by the Left. This battle may be lost already.
Free speech. Try to tell the truth into the maelstrom of the Deep State, and see what you get. The Left slate. Lie, lie again, leak the lie to the press, lie again, tell the public that the free press says it so, so it is the truth. Then if someone says something different, launch Antifa onto them.
Get rid of that pesky Electoral College so that a very few counties in the US where the Left is concentrated can run the show. Look at California, Colorado et al to see how a large area is controlled by a small concentrated group. Definitely anti big government!
Rewrite the Constitution to socialize the government, get rid of the balance of powers and form a government centered on the executive branch. Dictatorship soon follows.
Healthcare. You have the right to healthcare. Oh, yeah, healthcare as dictated by the government. Long lead times, heavy taxes, controlled access should keep us really dependent on DC.
Add on to the list. Just listen to the Most of the Dem candidates. You are witnessing an orchestrated coup d’etat of our government and the institution of Communistic, single party totalitarian Stalinist government in the US.
And people, you are the ones that are encouraging it with your votes. Remember after you have voted the SOBs in and you lose your freedom, you will not be able to get it back. Vote with your heads, protect yourselves from the power freaks.
Definitely pro big government!
… and abolish the 1st amendment in order to shut down CFNation.
I forgot the stupidification of America. The Founding Fathers knew that is individual responsibility was going to be the keystone of the US, an educated public would be necessary. Uneducated sheeple can be led easily by big government. Public education is paramount. How to de-educate and propagandize a population. Degrade K-12, and then give free access to the greatest propaganda tool since Goebbels, tertiary education. If Watters World is even close, we are creating the most stupid group of “university” educated kids in history. Ad on the introduction of foreign immigrants who are under educated in the first place and the Average intelligence of A resident in the US is falling like a rock. Especially when the illegals get here and find themselves smarter than the “university” educated youth already here.
The Powers that Be are moving forward rapidly on their program to destroy the US.
One more
Drugs, Let’s open the border and legalize drugs, even the libertarians want his one. Let’s see what will happen. What do the socialists want? Let’s anesthetize away the pain they have caused by the removal of hope and ambition from the public. Ambition is a no-no, I wonder where the New Democratic government is going to inter ambitious folks and re-educate them into the glories of Liberal mediocrity. The new Siberia.
I can’t even figure out where to START with this weird set of self-supporting falsehoods. So fuck it. You just stay deluded.
‘What is truth?’
On Monday, President Donald Trump’s administration issued a new rule that would allow officials to deny green cards to migrants if officials believe they would require public assistance, or those at risk of becoming a “public charge.” The rule would go into effect on October 15.
Appearing on NPR’s “Morning Edition,” Cuccinelli was asked by host Rachel Martin if the sonnet, which reads “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,” would still be part of the “American ethos” under the new rule.
“They certainly are,” Cuccinelli replied, before offering a revised version of the sonnet:
“Give me your tired, your poor who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge,” he told Martin. “That plaque was put on the Statue of Liberty at almost the first time the first public charge law was passed.”
JS: Better, Ken, most definitely. But better yet – just get rid of the damned plaque. It’s a plague. We don’t need any more immigrants, legal or illegal, even if they can stand on their own two feet.
Give the plaque to Canada.
Send the Freemasonic he/she tranny looking goddess idol back to France.
Even better.
Now now, you wouldn’t want to give a plague ridden plaque to Canada or France would you? That Satanic sonnet represents everything that is wrong with Western Civilization…immigration.
‘Satanic Sonnet’??? How twisted you’ve become in your thinking, cybering with Janos (in public no less).
I pity you, fool. You’re going to be so unprepared when reality bites your arse.
The Left thinks that the people supported Trump because they’re “White Supremacists”, and not because they want jobs, infrastructure, regulated immigration, and an end to the stupid wars.
It’s so Sad. I rather respect the blokes on the Left (like Jimmy Dore from Chicago) and on the Right (the “Preppers”) who are “Off the Reservation”. At least, they can “Smell the Coffee” and know that the Government is not going to do anything positive for them. Don’t waste your time. It’s just a prostate exam, and the Doctor’s not checking your prostate. And that ain’t the Doc’s finger….
“Yo! Doc… What’s with the Hillbilly LOOK?!”
“Squeal?! Don’t you mean Cough?!”
Jimmy Dore is good folk. He never bought in to the Russia, Russia hysteria. And he’s anti-Clinton and DNC. He’s also not afraid to give Bernie Sanders some tough criticism when it is due. (And it is often due). Plus he left The Young Turks. Of course he just didn’t fit in there anymore. They’re into the Russia, Russia nonsense, and that shrieking ‘Rachel Maddow in training’ Ana never forgave him for not endorsing and not voting for Hillary.
I see now CNN has another ‘winner’ employee– Don “Weiner Sniffer” Lemon, getting sued for sexually harassing a bar patron.
LOL 🙂
I’d love to go out on a night on the town with him & Fredo.. I bet its a real hoot 🙂
Well, Fredo is married, with a daughter.
Lemon won’t be getting married, to a woman anyway.
The kind of bars Don Lemon frequents I don’t think you’d feel comfortable in, Pete.
Brh
meh
maybe I’d get a few drinks out of the deal
ha ha
Fredo has anger management issues and a serious ego. Needless to say he’s ready to rumble at a moments notice and he doesn’t like feeling slighted. I dunno, I don’t think he’s as bad as their making it out to be. But it is funny.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TNhnp-vxE
I notice than Epstein is starting to show up less and less on the news. Surprise. I wonder how many rotten newspaper people are involved with the network.
I wonder how many of the divorces at high levels are Epstein inspired?
Two weeks from now it will be forgotten about?
Just a little FYI: A week ago Windows had one of their big ass comprehensive updates. I reluctantly went ahead and did it even though I always figure Windows is up to something no good. Probably more NSA and CIA back door spy shit. It took around two hours so it was indeed huge. Then a few days later there was another update, but much smaller. A more routine update.
I noticed after the update, the big one, that my Opera browser was slower and more unstable than usual. And especially here on Kunstler’s blog. Hmmmmm….. Most of the time I would get a “not responding” message while trying to post, or even trying to scroll up or down to read posts. And it made it very tedious and time consuming to do both.
So awhile ago today I uninstalled all that bullshit and it seems to have worked. Opera is working better and I’m not getting the “not responding” messages on this blog.
Again, hmmmmmmm…..
Never mind. I spoke too soon. Still having the same problems with Opera. I guess something is going on with it. Don’t have the issues with my two other installed browsers.
Have you switched it off and on again? (chortle)
Yeah, and cleaned the cache and cookies. It just is what it is.
According to investigative journalist, Wayne Madsen, Epstein looks like Mossad, and he was running a blackmail Operation. Even so, what’s with the weird sex Temple on Little St. James Island? What religion is that? It’s not Je….wish….
It seems that the autopsy shows several broken bones in Epstein’s neck, which points to strangulation rather than suicide. While in rare cases it is possible for a bloke who hangs himself to have those same particular bones broken, I think that what they mean is a bloke who really hangs himself properly with a rope, not a bloke who squats and leans into a bed sheet noose to suffocate himself.
The media will invite Beto to show up on TV and say something really outrageous like “Trump supporters are White Supremacists” or do some crazy stunt to try to get media attention and to boost their ratings. The media knows that Beto will do anything and that Beto is a social media whore.
I want to see him do some of his rad skateboard tricks.
Beto is like the character “Lou Bloom” in the movie “Nightcrawler”.
“Troll” News out of NYC:
Perfect…:) rename part of 5th Ave as Obama Ave, specifically the stretch on which GG’s phallic tower stands…
https://www.amny.com/news/rename-5th-avenue-obama-trump-tower-1.35022891
Lol girl you are too funny. You know, it isn’t healthy to just let him swim laps inside your head all day like that. Even an airhead and snowflake like me knows better than that ;-).
A tidbit for JHK re: bad debt.
‘GE’s true debt to equity ratio is 17:1, not 3:1, which will undermine its credit status,’ Markopolos said in the report, which was commissioned by an undisclosed hedge fund that has taken short positions on GE stock.
The report says GE is insolvent and asserts that its industrial businesses have a working capital deficit of $20 billion.
The plunge in share prices wiped more than $10 billion off of GE’s market capitalization in a matter of hours. GE shares closed down 11% for the day at $8 on Thursday.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7361157/GE-shares-plunge-15-Madoff-whistleblower-claims-company-fraud.html
Cheers
GE makes more from its consumer finance subsidiary than from actually DOING/MAKING stuff…
Majella
That was the situation at Sears before the company was liquidated: the only profit center for the company was the interest it garnered from its Sears issued credit cards. The rest of the company operated at a loss.
This doesn’t bode well for GE. On the other hand, like Sears, GE has had a good run, at least 125 years. Maybe its time something else replaces it.
Brh