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Western Civ’s most infamous encounter with pandemic disease, so far, was the big first wave of the Black Death that had a marathon run from 1346 to 1353. That bug was the real deal. It killed folks left and right, every age group, every social station, and it killed them ugly. Few who caught it survived. Up to half the population of Europe perished, along with a lot of their social and economic ways.

The cause of the Black Death was subject to every possible explanation except the actual one, Yersina pestis, a bacterium associated with rats and their insect parasites, fleas and lice, who also enjoyed an association with humans living in the generally squalid conditions of the day ­— the ancient Roman habit of bathing long forgotten. At the top of their list of causes was an angry God, and his wicked erstwhile subordinate, Satan. The “experts” of that time tended to cluster in the church hierarchy, with its drear obsessions and compulsions. The squishy boundary between the supernatural and reality loosed all manner of derangement. The Jews came in for much vilification, leading to massacres in Strasbourg, Mainz, and Cologne. On the whole, the episode represented a terrific humbling of humanity. The allegory of the Dance Macabre summed it up in mankind’s universal antic journey to the Palookaville of death.

On the plus side, as modern interpolators might say, the bubonic plague winnowed down Europe’s population to a scale more congenial with its resource base. After that big first wave of the disease, land was cheaper and human labor better rewarded. Eventually, more food got around. Incidentally, the plague provoked nostalgia for the classical antiquity of Greece and Rome, especially among the scholars of Florence, launching the extravaganzas of the Renaissance, the Enlightenment, and eventually our own pageant of techno-supremacist Modernity.

Covid-19 seems rather a punk-ass illness compared to the Black Death. Its victims by far are people already on a fast track to the last roundup. We know exactly what causes it, if not so exactly its origin, and yet the response among our experts has been far more ambiguous than those long-ago bishops of Christendom to the Great Plague. The various scientists, physicians, public health officers, and politicians seem, to the casual observer, about equally divided between those who consider the corona virus a grave threat and those who insist it’s hardly worse than any annual flu. What is one to believe? Or do?

Which brings us to the verge of the Great Opening-up. The current nostalgia for pre-Covid-19 business-as-usual is understandably intense. Gone especially from daily life are all the ceremonies of human togetherness, from gatherings of friends to the casual shoulder-rubbings of urban life to the crowded venues of the lively arts to the great moiling orgies of pro sports. The life of the perpetual jigsaw puzzle, YouTube, and Netflix has proved inadequate to human aspiration. Gone, too, are livelihoods, revenue streams, and rewarding roles in everyday existence. The itch to get out and do, get out and make, get out and be, is overwhelming.

Behind those plain yearnings, though, looms the specter of a system that appeared to be already foundering before Covid-19 entered the scene. There is, at least, considerable agreement that the disease catalyzed the disorders of finance and economy and accelerated the damage ­— just not among the people most responsible for engineering the fragilities that actually crashed things

Jerome Powell, Pope of the Church of the Federal Reserve, went on the 60-Minutes show last night to reassure the nation that things will eventually get back to normal. “I think you’ll see the economy recover steadily through the second half of this year.”

Yessir, if you say so. Were his fingers crossed? You couldn’t tell because the camera had him framed in a head-shot. Personally, I think the Fed Chairman was blowing smoke up the nation’s wazoo. Spooky as it’s been, the Covid-19 virus has also been a great cover-story for the natural collapse of a severely unbalanced, ecologically unsound, and dishonestly represented set of arrangements that are now unspooling at horrifying speed. The car industry is dying. The airline industry is laying out its fleet of big birds in desert graveyards. The college racketeering operation went off a cliff, along with medical profiteering. Agribusiness no longer has a business model. Hundreds of kinds of services no longer have customers who can afford their offerings from acupuncture to zymurgy. None of that will be fixed by injections of miracle money borrowed from ourselves in quantities that would turn every US citizen into a millionaire — if it wasn’t just pounded down the rat-holes of the stock and bond markets.

The big question about the Great Opening-up is when the recognition of all that turns to raw emotion. Covid-19 may still be with us then, but it will be the least of our problems. The masks will come off. The dance will commence.


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  1. malthuss May 18, 2020 at 10:22 am #

    Back Row Heckler, at Brietbart, I saw this,
    I gather your Nutmeg state is Nuts,

    Lamont is a total embarrassment to Connecticut. In the midst of this difficult time, he has decided to hire a “consultant” on reopening to the tune of 2 million dollars for a few months of work! I truly think he has low intelligence and is a bumbler. When will the voters in this state wake up and realize that democrats do not have the answers to intelligent governing? They don’t even understand the question! They also gave the state workers a raise recently!
    The State of Connecticut – once the state with the highest per capita income in the country, Insurance Capital of the World, and home to tech giants United Technologies and General Electric- is now one of the worst states in the country after 40 or so years of Democrat rule:
    One of the highest total tax burdens in the nation.
    One of the top 3 in the nation for energy costs.
    Cities like Bridgeport, Hartford, Willimantic, Enfield predominantly poor.
    Built a baseball stadium in the poorest section of Hartford which has yet to make money, even with the State promising to help out.
    Nearly all capital projects in the state are bonded.
    Highest per capita unfunded liability in the country.
    Middle class leaving the state in droves.
    Last state to recover from the Great Obama Recession (and, didn’t recover fully).

    Young graduates (ie: future tax revenues) not staying after graduation.

    Lost over 10,000 well-paying, high tech jobs when United Technologies and GE moved manufacturing out, replacing them with low paying casino / hotel jobs.
    And, Governor Ned Lamont wants to spend more money to prevent out-of-state business from spending money in Connecticut?

    The logic of the Liberals in that state is astonishing!

    .

    • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 10:50 am #

      My daughter in law was one of the insurance underwriters on that baseball stadium project.

      To quote her: “Everything that could be stolen, has been stolen”.

      Brh

    • bluedog May 18, 2020 at 10:54 am #

      You didn’t just described Conn. you described America,GE has been moving out of the N.E states for years, Vermont is a good example of that,when globalization marched into town, and most other states regardless of who or which party claims to run them are little to no better off and you ain’t see nothing yet.!!!

      • Daddyotis May 18, 2020 at 4:41 pm #

        As a Vermonter, I can fully corroborate your statement. Democrat rule has mortally wounded a once proud, individualistic, and thrifty state. The best idea that Montpelier politicians can come up with is to literally offer to pay people $10,000 to relocate here. The politicians STILL don’t get the message (hmmmm, maybe by design?).

        When the thieving politicians aren’t actively working toward bankrupting the state, they keep themselves busy trying to chip away at our gun rights because……”common sense”.

    • JohnAZ May 18, 2020 at 10:56 am #

      Government at all levels is broke.

      The idiocy in Conn. will be repeated everywhere.

      The culprit, the Federal government. When the decision was made to have Free Trade, ie, let the corporations go off shore, then Obama backed it up with high corporate taxes which drove even more manufacturing off shore, the dearth of manufacturing and the replacement by service sector jobs, both a desired result with Obama climate changers, made the tax base shrink. So Conn et al resorted to magic to try to raise revenue and create jobs. It has failed miserably.

      The service sector will not ever be as profitable as manufacturing. When you vote, do not ever favor a candidate at any level that believes that the service sector is supreme.

    • akmofo May 18, 2020 at 11:02 am #

      No one owes you a job, and you don’t owe anyone a sale. I think that every company that has its manufacturing abroad should be on the list of DON’T BUY for Americans. Furthermore, any item found in a big-box store or a mall should be on that list as well. Same for any company publicly listed on an exchange. Stop patronizing businesses that are nothing more than economic pirates and predators.

      • JohnAZ May 18, 2020 at 11:23 am #

        Right!

        Americans allowed the ascent of Walmart, the greatest job destroyer in US history. All to save a few cents.

        Americans are too dumb to appeal to rationally. If rationality and logic were the sources of decision making, there would be no Democratic Party.

        Unfortunately, there is a need for punitive action, such as tariffs, to try to offset the lunacy of “free traders” who would rape this country to make a profit for the 1%. This is the entire Deep State, both parties.

        You would think that the PTB were under the influence of the Chinese. I wonder why?

        • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 11:43 am #

          Now notice the full circle you and Akmo just danced. Akmo said no one has the right to tell anyone what to do – and you shouted, “Right” as in Amen. Then you explained how dumb people are. How does that fit in with what Akmo (and you I assume) said about no one getting to interfere in people’s decision making?

          You can’t have it both ways. You are correct of course in your second statement. And the first right of the People is to be guided by those better than themselves.

          • malthuss May 18, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

            Akmo said no one has the right to tell anyone what to do

            how do you get that from,

            No one owes you a job, and you don’t owe anyone a sale. I think that every company that has its manufacturing abroad should be on the list of DON’T BUY for Americans. Furthermore, any item found in a big-box store or a mall should be on that list as well. Same for any company publicly listed on an exchange. Stop patronizing businesses that are nothing more than economic pirates and predators.

        • ThorsHammer May 18, 2020 at 12:01 pm #

          John in Arizona
          “Americans are too dumb to appeal to rationally” Otherwise there would not be any “Democratic Party” or “Republican Party” because they would realize there is only one political party in the USA. It’s called the War Party, and both factions universally support it’s mission of maintaining the dominance of the Empire and its ability to extract tribute from the world by owning the World Reserve Currency.

          Politics in the USA is a game played by a few Oligarchs for sport and spoils, benefiting only those who game it for their benefit. Endless electoral “contests” serve the same function as NFL football or the lions vs gladiators in ancient Rome.

          But all of that is in the past now that the Oligarchs have discovered how to use Pandemic Panic to exert total control and confusion in the minds of the rabble. Once universal chip implants are fully installed, there will be no need to use crude tools like the mass media to maintain control and induce the worthless eaters from the ex-middle class and ex-working class to load up their shopping carts and march passively over the cliff of the future.

        • akmofo May 18, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

          JAZ, Jan,

          It’s pointless to appeal to politicians. Their allegiance is to their financial backers, and that’s not you or I. Same for writing complaints to MSM for their FAKE NEWS propaganda hacks. Best to accept the situation as unchangeable and short-circuit their viability. Don’t watch TV and don’t buy any product that’s advertised there. Know that they will not change, and the only thing that can affect change to boycott them out of existence.

          And this is exactly what will happen. I’m always a little ahead of the curve, but what I see eventually all see as well.

        • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 3:34 pm #

          Most of the super rich in the USA are Democrats and support lefty causes.

          • crazyhorsegarden@gmail.com May 20, 2020 at 12:07 am #

            Dear BRH,
            You are correct about wealthy people being supportive of the Democrats and I don’t understand why.
            Inheritance taxes promoted by Democrats are detrimental to family farms, family wealth and businesses forcing children to sell in order to pay IRS inheritance taxes. Why would a wealthy
            person promote any politics that would hurt her or his decendents? I have a neighbor who inherited his considerable wealth: land, stocks and more, yet he is a flaming liberal, hates the GOP, loves socialism and traditional ( New Orleans) jazz.
            He is a wonderful neighbor but I think misguided.

          • Pat Ormsby May 24, 2020 at 10:41 pm #

            @Crazyhorse
            I think it’s that they learned which emotional buttons they could push to get what they wanted from the left, by simply dressing in politically correct sheep’s clothing.

  2. fugeguy May 18, 2020 at 10:23 am #

    One more comeback in us.

    Might be the next one that gets us. And it won’t be 10 years out this time More like 2 or 3.

  3. Walter B May 18, 2020 at 10:24 am #

    So Jerry Jackass actually promised immediate gratification just around the bend? Wow, these assholes have absolutely NO respect for us anymore do they. The only question this raises is whether no respect is really what the American public deserves or not. Thanks for watching that crap Jim because I gave up on it years ago. My bowels could not take the constant pounding of their bullshit.

    Find me one person that said a year ago that this is where America would be today – there isn’t one. When we ask anyone what will America will be like in the Summer of 2021 nobody has a clue. The opinions range from filling sandbags to not good and all of the possibilities on the table are valid. There will be no “new normal” there will only be a new abnormal and the only question will be how bad that will actually be.

    • bluedog May 18, 2020 at 10:59 am #

      Watch animal farm where some animals are better then others.it will give you your first clue.And yes there have been others who stated just where we would be if we didn’t change direction,George Ure over on his site has been laying it out forever of just where we were going and just how we would get there!!!

      • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 3:23 pm #

        I first read Animal Farm when I was 10. To this day, I would say it had a more profound effect on my life and thinking than almost anything I have read since.

        • Majella May 22, 2020 at 8:33 am #

          But…

          Who’s the WH Doctor, HigIQwl?.

  4. Lawfish May 18, 2020 at 10:26 am #

    As I was watching 60 Minutes last night, with that insufferable douche-bag, Scott Pelley interviewing the Fed chair, all I could think about was, I bet Jim’s watching this and getting as enraged as I was. He spoke about the “tools” available to the Fed as though it’s anything other than pure creation of money out of thin air. What I found even more amusing was his reassurance that we could somehow pay off all those trillions when good times resumed. The opportunity to pay off all that borrowed garbage was during the last ten years. If we didn’t do it then, we’ll never do it, end of story.

    • Walter B May 18, 2020 at 10:35 am #

      The only tool in the Fed’s toolbox is Jerry Jackass himself, or the idiot that preceded him and the idiot that will follow him, if there IS an America after he is done with us.

      I think that it is high time that we stopped calling these printing festivals loans or debts, for as you say, loans and debts have to be paid back. What they are doing is simply handing out scraps of worthless paper, and in reality not even that, just making up numbers on computer screens Hopefully for them it will keep the plebes believing that there is a reason to keep on doing the hard for for the easy people. We must continue to hope that the dopes never wake up and realize how badly they are being played.

      • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 11:48 am #

        ” What they are doing is simply handing out scraps of worthless paper, ”

        Walter,
        That may be, but you might have noticed that I mentioned being recently STIMIULATED. I took my worthless paper and bought a 1996 Dodge, Cummins diesel, one ton dually, with a hydraulic dump bed with mine. I thank the Great Father in the East for the wherewithal to make the purchase. Drove it down from the Portland area yesterday.

        • Walter B May 18, 2020 at 3:16 pm #

          As long as the general public can be tricked into thinking that the worthless paper has value, turning your into a hard asset was exactly what we should all be doing right now – convert to hard assets. Prepare for a World Made By Hand.

          • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 4:04 pm #

            Yes, a World Made By Hand, hauled by a screaming Dodge Cummins Diesel .

        • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 5:31 pm #

          E. Congrats on your new purchase.

          Big ass Ram dually rolling down the highway powered up a Cummins diesel, manual transmission (6 forward speeds?) Now that’s heaven.

          • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 11:02 pm #

            BRH

            5 Speed, with a model 28 banging around in the glove box.

            Oh mother!

      • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 11:50 am #

        Pharaoh and Joseph could have told the People about Joseph’s dream and told them to store up grain for the bad years to come. But knowing human nature, they knew how few would believe and/or do it. So they taxed the abundant harvest heavily, and stored the people’s grain for them. Then when the famine came, they made them buy their own grain back – an extraordinary bait and switch. The tax was supposed to be for the people’s own good – a mere holding of the grain for them. But possession is nine tenths of the law and it was Pharaoh’s now. So the Egyptians sold everything they had just to eat – in the end, even themselves.

        What an unspeakably evil pair of vultures those two were.

        • akmofo May 18, 2020 at 1:03 pm #

          There was no tax on the grain. Pharaoh financed the purchase of the grain the storage facilities and the diversion of the Nile at his expense. The tax was on people that had sold themselves to slavery to work on Pharaoh’s lands for food, and that tax was 20% of what they produced from the land. Compare that to what people EVERYWHERE are taxed today. We are treated far worse by the Vatican gov mafia than the slaves of Pharaoh. It’s a complete disgrace.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 2:10 pm #

            Exactly. It was their grain. He was supposed to just be holding it for them for when they needed – a Sacred Trust which he betrayed by charging them for it.

          • akmofo May 18, 2020 at 4:43 pm #

            If Pharaoh purchased the grain, its his grain. There are many things to fault Pharaoh with, charging market price for grain he purchased earlier at his his expense is not one of them. Your malice blinds you. You’re reading things that are not there.

          • Daddyotis May 18, 2020 at 4:52 pm #

            Kinda like owning real estate in current times. There is no more “owning” a property or a home. Due to property taxes (you know, for the “children” for their public education ie: indoctrination), you’re only renting your property from the government.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 6:29 pm #

            This story presses all of your buttons. Again, he didn’t purchase it – he took or “taxed” it from them so it could be held for the Nation against the seven bad years to come. This was the result of a Dream that he took to be from God as per Joseph’s interpretation. Any attempt to profit of off it was a sin of the highest magnitude.

          • akmofo May 18, 2020 at 7:59 pm #

            The Torah is very specific in its language. Joseph gathered the excess grain from Egypt and her surroundings. You don’t gather that which is not yours. It implies Pharaoh purchased the grain of Egypt as well as the grain of Canaan and of others.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 2:10 am #

            Yes, the Bible is very clear. The King is Father to his People. Just as a Father keeps things for his children, so does the King for his people – for when they are needed. When Pharaoh betrayed that trust, he betrayed himself and God as well. For what? He already had everything. Did Joseph corrupt him somehow?

            The people had no money – there was a famine on, remember? The excess grain had of the good years had been taken by Pharaoh to seem them thru the terrible years.

  5. PeteAtomic May 18, 2020 at 10:26 am #

    Thanks, Jim.

    “The big question about the Great Opening-up is when the recognition of all that turns to raw emotion. Covid-19 may still be with us then, but it will be the least of our problems. The masks will come off. The dance will commence.”

    Yes, I agree! The graveyard of what has become the strip malls full of bars & nail salons, i.e. the “economy” will not return when the workers, shambling out of their hovels like hungover zombies gorged off their extra $600 a week in unemployment, straggle into employers who can give them part-time at $10 an hour, at best.

  6. michics May 18, 2020 at 10:28 am #

    “The car industry is dying.” And with thousands of new vehicle sitting everywhere the so call big three are opening plants starting assembly again. Who the h**l do they think will buy them?

    • Walter B May 18, 2020 at 10:36 am #

      Who even needs them anymore now that we are all staying home?

      • michics May 18, 2020 at 10:39 am #

        One of the problems the auto industry has is having to pay it’s union workers 95% of their wage while on layoff. So the industry has to spend the money and might as well produce something it doesn’t need. Broken system.

        • bluedog May 18, 2020 at 11:03 am #

          Oh my my hearts bleeds for them after their involvement in the derivative scam and running to the taxpayers for billions in bailouts,while their CEO’S rake in millions upon millions of dollars for runing them into the ground,!!

      • Matt Holbert May 18, 2020 at 1:12 pm #

        Not everyone is staying home. Yesterday the neighbors had a B-day party for one of their kin. The street was lined with cars. 10-12 or so. This is in addition to the 7 vehicles and 4 motorcycles that the 5 occupants of the home possess.

        • Matt Holbert May 18, 2020 at 1:32 pm #

          And you guessed it… Not a single person at the shindig was wearing a mask.

    • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 11:51 am #

      ” Who the h**l do they think will buy them?

      M,
      The majority of new age purchasers, I assume, look at the monthly payment, not the overall package. This is how $35,000 Chevys are sold. “I can put you into this Malibu for only $195 per month….”

      • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

        $195 per month … for the rest of your natural life, and beyond.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 3:03 pm #

        Eddie has died. He was LAPD – did you know him?

        https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ken-osmond-leave-beaver-star-175448947.html

        • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 3:52 pm #

          Janos,
          I looked so much like him when in High School that people around me would call me “Eddie”.

          I shit you not….

          • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 6:26 pm #

            I remember you saying that – that’s why I wanted to let you know, especially when I saw that he had entered law enforcement.

          • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 11:04 pm #

            Janos,
            Thanks for the heads up…probably would have escaped my notice otherwise.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 11:52 am #

      The car is life. Who can get to work without one? And if all fails, it is both a home and a weapon. Watch Carradine’s “Death Race 2000”. Build them and the people will come to buy them. Selling themselves into debt slavery to get one.

      • Walter B May 18, 2020 at 9:14 pm #

        I agree and America’s “love affair” with the automobile was one of the first norms I rejected as I came of age. It was transportation above all to me and is what led to my lifetime of year-round motorcycling to get where I was going to do what I cared to do.

        • Q. Shtik May 18, 2020 at 9:55 pm #

          It was transportation above all to me and is what led to my lifetime of year-round motorcycling – Walter B

          ==========

          Even in 18 inches of snow?

          • Iananna May 21, 2020 at 11:37 pm #

            Pretty common in Skandiwegia, with bolt on ski outriders – like training wheels – and no problem.
            Of course, no silly speed is advisable – though not impossible – but as transport a winner, actually even better with a trailer.

      • SpeedyBB May 19, 2020 at 9:33 am #

        Perhaps because it is the only way for them [mostly men] to feel a little bit empowered?

        Look, here comes Timothy Trustifarian in his $379,000 Lambo. It will do 215 mph but Timmy spends most of his time in 30 ~ 45 mph zones.

        Unfortunately Timmy’s Italian supercar is also a cop magnet. So much for his empowerment.

        • elysianfield May 20, 2020 at 12:57 am #

          ” So much for his empowerment”

          Speedy,
          But I bet it does great for his sex life….

    • DrGonzo May 18, 2020 at 8:19 pm #

      The people who are now too terrified to take public transit or live in high-density communities.

  7. benr May 18, 2020 at 10:28 am #

    New study shows cloth masks worse than not wearing one for a vector for infection.

    • benr May 18, 2020 at 10:29 am #

      One of many many sites now saying the current protocols may be harming more than helping.

      https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/mask-respirators/cloth-masks-are-useless-against-covid-19

    • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 10:34 am #

      But they are “for the safety of others,” Benr. That is why, even when you are not sick, the Virtue Signalers will tell you to wear one.

      Then you too can get sick from the mask and (likely mis) diagnosed with COVID.

      Win-win!

      • Majella May 22, 2020 at 8:35 am #

        I’m confused by some information you’ve posted and hope you can clear it up for me…

        Who’s the WH Doctor, HigIQwl?.

    • michics May 18, 2020 at 10:35 am #

      The mask thing is only to help contain droplets when you sneeze or cough. Serve no protection to yourself. The N95’s are the only mask that will protect you from inhaling the Corona bug. And of course the average citizen cannot find any to buy.

      • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 10:45 am #

        They block 95% of fine particles, but only if properly fit tested and worn. They must also be disinfected after each use or disposed of, which practically no one does.

        Pointless other than for medical professionals, and certainly not something you would wear for anything involving even moderate physical activity.

        • Mountain gal May 18, 2020 at 1:26 pm #

          I have some(N95’s) but had been wearing the same 2 over and over, using them in stores and on-the-job where I’m doing dirty sweaty work. I found that I was getting sick with a sore throat etc after wearing one for hours and hours a day and only being able to rotate between the 2 I had “in service”. I’m not sure whether wearing one was better for me or worse. I’ve now decided to wear a homemade cloth one on the job outdoors if I’m working closely with people who expect me to wear one and to reserve an N95 for my rare runs to a large retail store. I’ll use the cloth mask to go into small stores(some stores require a mask to be worn here). I’ll wash the cloth mask and alternate with another one. Life has become “complicated”.

        • Majella May 22, 2020 at 8:36 am #

          Would Dr. Ronny agree with you?

          Who’s the WH Doctor, HigIQwl?.

      • benr May 18, 2020 at 10:46 am #

        blah blah blah Heard this shit over and over.

        It’s virtue signaling de jour nothing more.
        To say it is ANYTHING else is shelf delusion after endless weeks of people huddling in fear we have learned most of what we are being told is simply not reality.

        • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 11:54 am #

          “most of what we are being told is simply not reality”

          Benr,
          Yes, a wise man once wrote;

          “We don’t know shit about the virus…”

        • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 11:58 am #

          Yes, a sign of submission to the New World Order. Good Muslim women wear the hijab. And Islam means “submission”. At least they are submitting to something higher so they are superior in their intent at least.

          • malthuss May 18, 2020 at 3:04 pm #

            Yoga translates as Yoke / Union.
            Karma translates as work.

        • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 11:58 am #

          If someone offered you 100K to talk face to face with someone for five minutes infected with covid without either of you wearing masks, or a trifling 50K if you both wear masks.

          What would you do? And don’t bother typing you answer. If you go for the 100K nobody will believe you.

          • benr May 18, 2020 at 1:35 pm #

            100k all the way.
            I flew across country in an airplane where most people had a mask with them but was not wearing it.
            Charlotte North Carolinas airport it was a 50/50 mix of people.

            Believe what you want to believe but know this life is risk.
            To much risk and you lose life and to little risk you have none anyways.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 11:56 am #

        No the corona virus is .125 microns in diameter while the mask only stops things .300 microns or bigger. It might stop them initially in the droplets, but as your breath dries them out, you will either blow them away or suck them in.

        • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 2:50 pm #

          “It might stop them initially in the droplets”

          Which is what matters initially in terms of how many people you’re going to get with one cough or sneeze.

    • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 11:53 am #

      Do you have a fucking brain. Get real if you know how. Are you going to tell us that sperm can go through latex condoms next? Better yet in clear concise and irrefutable logic explain how a cloth mask can increase risk.

      Logic I won’t rip to shreds in thirty seconds. I don’t think you can do it.

      Oh K-Dog, you are so rude, I’m just joking and putting this out there for a few hundred people to read. It can’t possibly cause a dumbfuck somewhere to not wear a mask and kill someone else. That could never happen.

      The mask prevents spread. It interferes with droplet emission. The only naysayers of masks are people who don’t care about other people. Comparison between the R0 numbers of Asian countries and the Western petri-dish countries clearly shows masks work at preventing the spread.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

        You admit I trust that the corona virus is too small for the mask to stop, right?

        Only the droplets can be stopped. But what then? What then!?
        Where is the Lovecraft who could tell us….

      • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

        Everyone is going to get it, Kdog. It’s your duty to tell people this hard truth. We can’t curl up and die every flu season. There are always new varieties of flu. This one was brand new. So what? Now there will be endless varieties of this one too. You want to change our whole way of life and give up our freedoms just for this?

        Thank you for wearing a mask and not masking you you are.

        • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 2:10 pm #

          If you want to think that life is a shit sandwich and then we die go ahead. You might be right. But don’t ask me to pass the mustard and katsup and you can get your own salt and pepper.

        • Steeleje May 18, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

          Except this isn’t the flu – it is far more contagious and attacks bodily systems that the seasonal flu does not.

          What freedoms have you lost??? What essential to life activities have you been denied from participating in??? You were able to go and purchase food, go to the pharmacy, obtain medical care, and walk your dog. So what freedom during a public health crisis have you lost?

          When did people become so inflexible that in the midst of a Pandemic you can’t stay the fuck in your house for a few weeks until the dust settles and to help the I.C.U. wards not be overrun?

          Do you really need a drink at the bar so badly that you can’t abstain from social-booze-ups until the curve is flattened? Are those dollar bills burning such a hole in your pocket that if you can’t get down to your local strip joint and start shoving cash into the g-strings of scantily-clad ‘dancers’ you might be driven to the edge of insanity???

          Freedom, Freedom, Freedom my ass – You remind me of the brain-trusts running around waving their peashooters in State Capitals screaming about their Freedom draped in Confederate Flags and sportin’ Swastikas. How about this time the greater good Trumps your theoretical Freedom.

          • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 5:35 pm #

            What’s your stake in it?

          • benr May 18, 2020 at 5:39 pm #

            Spoken like a true progressive slave.
            So much for rugged individualism!
            They closed down the local trails!
            No hiking they had guards posted all over!
            No beaches even if all you want to do is go for a swim or a surf.
            They arrested a guy for surfing Malibu by himself!

            Fines for trying to open your business all the while Huge stores are wide open. Why are the huge stores wide open who’s palms did they grease??

            We are Americans not Chinese that will meekly sit there and allow the government to weld us into our homes if you don’t like it then move on out to China where I am sure you will be far happier.

            As far as your douchebag points no one is whining about bars and strip clubs its normal life stuff that is at issue.

            Steeleje You are an idiot.

          • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 5:50 pm #

            Hey Ben, how about that surfer who got ate by a shark? I think it was north of you. All the more reason for Newsom to ban surfing, as it is his mission ‘to keep everybody safe’ for all time, in all circumstances.

          • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 7:01 pm #

            So? I’ve seen Hamner & Sickle flags at lefty rallies. What’s the diff?

          • Q. Shtik May 18, 2020 at 10:43 pm #

            Do you really need a drink at the bar so badly that you can’t abstain from social-booze-ups – Steeleje

            =========

            No, I don’t but my b-i-l, Peter does. Has high blood pressure and has a VERY bad heart. Had quintuple bypass surgery 20 years ago. Has had stents put in twice and 2 weeks ago had a defibrillator implanted. Among the instructions upon release from the hospital were:

            1. don’t drive for 6 weeks
            2. don’t drink alcohol

            Yesterday Peter called his sister (my wife) and told her he drove to his Elks club and had a few Stellas. He says the doctors always give worse case instructions to protect their own asses, insurance-wise.

            Everything Peter does is the wrong thing. He moved from Jersey to Estero, Florida in February of last year to avoid bill collectors. It was only recently we found out his actual address.

          • benr May 19, 2020 at 12:57 pm #

            Yea he was hit at Manresa a known sharky spot right smack dab in the southerner end of the red triangle.
            I used to surf there, moss landing, davenport landing, scotts creek, greyhound rock steamer lane, three mile, four mile, and wadell creek.
            I was in the water an hour before at Davenport when someone was attacked I noticed a fisherman steaming buy cutting up fish and tossing the heads and guts in the water so I got out.

            A couple of months later another guy got hit at a place called water falls a mile or so up the road from scotts creek while I was in the water. A cop bull horned me to get out. The weird part is it went from crowded to empty and I failed to notice. my spidey sense was not as attuned to things as some of the locals.

            As I said a life without chances taken is no life.

          • benr May 19, 2020 at 1:04 pm #

            The two attacks happened really close to each other July and October of 91.

            http://www.sharkattackdata.com/place/united_states_of_america/california

            Surfing is far safer than crossing the street or driving.

    • Mountain gal May 18, 2020 at 1:21 pm #

      I’m wearing a mask in stores or when close to people on the job but I think they are producing a false sensation of safety. Went into a store the other day and when I was standing at the register the cashier, wearing one of those paper masks, started coughing. She didn’t make the slightest attempt to shield her cough with her arm or turn away; just coughed into her mask as if this was somehow ok. I called the store the next day and spoke to the manager who insisted that the mask “protected me” from any germs she would have produced with her cough. Yeah right. She finally promised to review “hygiene standards” such as using an arm to shield a cough, with her staff and asked if “that was enough for me”. Not really but whatever. I’ll just avoid that store as the workers tend to be rather bottom-of-the-barrel anyway.

    • WayfaringStranger May 18, 2020 at 7:59 pm #

      Who gives a flying fuck.

      If people want to wear one, stay outta their mask-covered face about it.

      If a business wants their customers to wear masks and it pisses you off then shop elsewhere.

    • DrGonzo May 18, 2020 at 8:21 pm #

      Right. Reference, please?

    • Q. Shtik May 18, 2020 at 10:07 pm #

      New study shows cloth masks worse than not wearing one for a vector for infection. – benr

      ======

      My wife and I wear colorful cloth masks made by my wife and her sewing club chums. They have yet to be run through the washing machine. We are more or less indifferent as to their effectiveness. Like today, we wore them to Lowe’s because they won’t let you in without one.

      • benr May 19, 2020 at 9:28 am #

        I have been watching people freak out when they come across someone without a mask.
        Totally different mood when I flew across country to Virginia.

        In just one week the feel being about has shifted 100%

        Took my dog to Ocean beach San Diego and next to no one is wearing them.
        Dogs running and playing people talking and having a good walk.
        Was nice.
        People are sick of this nonsense.
        With that said many of the stores here won’t let you in without one as well.

        • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

          “I have been watching people freak out when they come across someone without a mask.
          Totally different mood when I flew across country to Virginia.”

          Totally different here too – people just aren’t the freaking-out type here. But they (even the young ones) are considerate in moving out the way or crossing the road when they see you coming. Entirely without freak. It seems much harder to catch outdoors anyway – it’s the people going to work every day in crowded buses and subways that are most at risk.

          People will worry less anyway, whether they’re pro-lockdown or anti-lockdown (I certainly think it’s time to call a halt to it here). You can only worry about something for so long, then your mind just gets tired of worrying, whether that’s justified or not. And my personal experience is obviously that life and death are marching on even outside of Covid and won’t be ignored.

  8. JustSaying May 18, 2020 at 10:42 am #

    …Personally, I think the Fed Chairman was blowing smoke up the nation’s wazoo. Spooky as it’s been, the Covid-19 virus has also been a great cover-story for the natural collapse of a severally unbalanced, ecologically unsound, and dishonestly represented set of arrangements that are now unspooling at horrifying speed…

    Obviously it was orchestrated to transfer wealth to the 1% once again. Never saw such ignorance and gross stupidity in my life. Corruption and greed are understandable, but the level of incompetence at the federal, state, and county level is mind-boggling. The biggest government failure was sending recovering patients to nursing homes! And the OBVIOUS over-counting of corona virus deaths. And let’s not forget that the tests are only 60% accurate. But let’s contact trace and let’s line up for the vaccine.

    Some interesting data points:

    https://medium.com/@antonymueller/coronavirus-crisis-management-what-really-happened-and-why-it-failed-844b4c927942

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/why-covid-19-model-inspired-uks-lockdown-may-be-most-devastating-software-mistake-all

    l

    • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 11:57 am #

      “Obviously it was orchestrated to transfer wealth to the 1% once again”

      JS,
      At what point does it become obvious that, if the great unwashed are denied scraps from the table, societal issues will arise?

      Even the dullest of the 1% understands this?

      • ThorsHammer May 18, 2020 at 12:24 pm #

        Once upon a time there was a very exclusive membership club located on 12,000 acres on a remote mountainside. In order to be considered for membership in the Yellowstone Club you had to be vetted by the security system managed by ex Presidential Secret Service personnel. And tender a $365,000 deposit for the first year’s membership fee before examining the property.

        Since membership was capped at 350, the powder skiing at the private ski area was superb. In order to prevent cross-insemination between classes, all ski instructors and patrolmen were required to submit to voluntary castration. Anybody who is a skier knows that powder skiing trumps sex, so there were hundreds of applications for the few jobs.

        The Golden Rule
        “He Who Has The Gold Rules”

        • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 4:01 pm #

          Thor,
          I could do that kind of work…I assume the “castration” thing is a metaphor?

          • ThorsHammer May 19, 2020 at 9:49 am #

            elysianfield

            Ya think?

      • WayfaringStranger May 18, 2020 at 8:00 pm #

        Yes, they do.

    • malthuss May 18, 2020 at 3:05 pm #

      yes

    • WayfaringStranger May 18, 2020 at 8:19 pm #

      Why not go read the countless articles and reports re: the wealthiest people on the planet becoming infinitely wealthier either as a side benefit of the Covid-monster OR as a direct result of it?
      How each of them, or the group in general have gained that wealth will amuse you further as you read in depth.

      You won’t.

      But other people might, and I encourage them to do so. here in the United States it’s often referred to as the disconnect between “Wall Street and Main Street”. The piece will then outline some way in which the so-called 1% have profited concurrent with unprecedented job loss, particularly for those earning under 40k/year. Things of that nature.

      But you won’t bother. So by all means, do enjoy casting specious aspersions on your fellow human and wallowing in jasmine-scented ignorance.

  9. Kevvia Knack May 18, 2020 at 10:43 am #

    The wheels are going to come off in the fall. In November. During and after the election. There will be a spike in infections beginning in October. Quarantining measures will be reinstated. The election result will be disputed no matter who wins, because of absentee ballot screwups and the perception of voter suppression due to polling places being closed in particular areas. There will be chaos. The National Guard will be patrolling major U.S. cities.

    • tlauria May 18, 2020 at 10:56 am #

      Agreed.
      November 3, 2020 will be the rough equivalent of April 12, 1861,

    • bluedog May 18, 2020 at 11:07 am #

      Couldn’t agree more but at least it will keep them out of the countryside as they huddle down in the city,setting up check point charlie so they can moniter who is coming into the cities.!!!

    • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

      Trump won’t let things close down until after the election I assume. If people object – and they will – he’d be smart to finally declare martial law and take care of business.

    • benr May 18, 2020 at 5:41 pm #

      and you engage in it daily big government stool Pidgeon!

    • Kevvia Knack May 18, 2020 at 7:50 pm #

      I’m not fear mongering. I didn’t say I was scared. I am looking forward to the chaos in the fall. I cannot wait, quite honestly. I think it will be exciting as hell

      • benr May 20, 2020 at 9:09 am #

        @kevvia knack

        I know it looks like it but my comment was not to you.
        Sorry for the confusion.

    • DrGonzo May 18, 2020 at 8:27 pm #

      Is there anyone on the planet who seriously doubts that if Trump loses the election in November, he will immediately dismiss it as “rigged”?

      That bet is as sure as the sun rising tomorrow morning. The only real question is: will he then urge his cult followers to grab their AR-15’s and rise up against the “Deep State”? And, like the mindless sheep they tend to be, will they do so?

    • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 11:15 pm #

      KK,
      We live in the most interesting of times. Within the next three or four months, life as we know it will change, and I would expect not for the better. The changes will be organic…systemic. The center may or may not hold. There may be elections, there may not. The upcoming summer may be sporty beyond our usual expectations. Civil authority, rule of law, Constitutional protection…all things we take for granted, will most likely change.

      The social contract is about to be (I believe) broached. The infrastructure will be tested. Our worst fears of collapse will be proved or otherwise.

      All in the next three months.

      We will not suffer boredom.

  10. BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 10:43 am #

    Well, the winnowing out of the ‘Zymurgy’ industry was long overdue. With a craft brewery in every abandoned warehouse and machine shop from Stonington to Canaan, each one with a more eclectic name than the next, just how many $20 sixpacks can we afford, and how much trendy beer can we drink. When this is over we might be back to Shmidts Big Mouths, $4 per case, like in about 1970.

    Brh

    • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 10:52 am #

      God help me, I despise the US craft movement. Hipster wankery at its finest.

      Here in Europe, you can get 6 Belgian Trappist beers or something from a fabled brewery like Ayinger, etc., for about 8 euros. Or you can slum it with a high quality Czech Pilsner — or even a pristinely filtered glass of Kölsch pisswater, if desperate.

      Most craft beer is so poorly made you are guaranteed to get a headache from toxins not properly filtered out. I have yet to find one that doesn’t make me feel like I drank Natty Ice the morning after.

      Craft beer is modern moonshine.

      • Steeleje May 18, 2020 at 2:45 pm #

        Now you’re just being nasty to moonshine. Nothing like a fruit jar of ‘shine and some barbecue, nothing like it anywhere in the world!

        • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 4:50 pm #

          Probably, Steeleje. I am still open to it. 🙂

      • Rulo Deschamps May 18, 2020 at 7:16 pm #

        Natty Ice! Truly the worst. Have some friends that drink it, and the arguments are never ending. I’m not a beer snob. I’ll go for a plain lager after a hot day’s work, no craft nonsense for me – Miller High Life, the Champagne of Beers, a humble choice for a humble farmer. Which is about the same as a Budweiser, PBR, Stella, Yuengling, all decent refreshments for the discerning working man. Also, respect to moonshine. An older farmer friend used to distill his ‘shine, and it was nothing to sneeze at, esp as someone noted with a bite to go w it, smoked hog, homemade pickles, smoked mullet.

      • Majella May 22, 2020 at 8:37 am #

        I’m sure Dr. Ronny has equally high standards in beer…

        Who’s the WH Doctor, HigIQwl?.

    • Lawfish May 18, 2020 at 11:39 am #

      Gotta agree with you there, BRH. All these craft brewers do is make quadruple IPA’s that taste like pure hops or some God-awful fruit beer that’s colored purple or something else. That’s why for the last 5 years, I have drunk only beer that I brewed. I can produce 5 gallons of excellent REAL beer for about $11.00.

      • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

        ” I can produce 5 gallons of excellent REAL beer for about $11.00.”

        Lawfish,
        Under $6.00 for me, but I grow my own hops.

        • Lawfish May 18, 2020 at 2:27 pm #

          Dang, elysianfield, you’ve got me beat. My biggest cost is shipping. For a 50 lb bag of malted barley I pay $36, but the shipping is $38, so my barley is $1.48 per pound. I pay about $1.00 for yeast and $1.00 for hops, so my total cost is actually $13.84, not $11.00. But it’s still cheap as dirt.

          • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 3:58 pm #

            Law,
            I bought 25 lb bags of adjuncts cheap back in the 80’s…crystal malt and patent…as well as several hundred pounds of malted barley from a micro brewer that I knew…15 cents a pound. Bought several hundred pounds, sealed into carboys.

            Been a straight gra[n brewer since…1986. Don’t do much now, but the goods are still in the basement.

    • Q. Shtik May 18, 2020 at 9:21 pm #

      Shmidts Big Mouths, $4 per case, – BRH

      ============

      Per CASE no less…Hahaha ha ha

      When I was young there was something brewed in Camden, NJ called Camden Beer. I was too young to have an opinion about it’s quality but you can just imagine.

  11. BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 10:46 am #

    And my wife just informed me Schmidt’s would be the go to beer for making Beer Bread. So there is that too.

  12. Nik Charles May 18, 2020 at 10:46 am #

    “1346 to. 1953” ?

    Unfortunate and obvious typo.
    Thanks — JHK Admin

    • Patriot May 18, 2020 at 10:50 am #

      You beat me, Nik

      • Nik Charles May 18, 2020 at 10:58 am #

        I used to bring typos to Jim’s attention. Years ago, in emails. My thinking was – we’re trying to maintain an educated and civilized existence here – Jim’s a journalist – I’d want someone to bring these typos to my attention – Jim can handle it.
        He’d thank me and adjust things. Until – he didn’t thank me and didn’t adjust things.

        • Lawfish May 18, 2020 at 11:40 am #

          If we’re bringing up typos, I think when he said, “severally,” he meant “severely.”

          • Rulo Deschamps May 18, 2020 at 7:24 pm #

            Yes, I noticed that too. Still, excellent writing as usual. May I recommend Barbara Tuchman’s “A distant mirror” for a very good chronicle of the disastrous 14th century. The current virus is a lightweight compared to the Black Death.

          • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 8:11 pm #

            I read that RD. A distant mirror. It was an eye opener. One thing I remember is that Tuchman explained the common cruelty of the day by describing how badly parents mistreated their children, if they paid attention to them at all. Childhood hardly even existed in the 14th century.

            Brh

      • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 11:02 am #

        I believe Jim meant 1353.

        Altho I did note in the last thread that incidents of The Plague reoccur all the way into the 19th century, and it wasn’t until about 1897 that scientists discovered what caused it. Even now there are cases of bubonic plague in the American SW, specially in the sprawling Indian Reservations.

        Brh

        • JohnAZ May 18, 2020 at 11:07 am #

          Yep, not rats though, prairie dogs. They are also a source of hantavirus, another killer waiting in the wings.

          We have got to learn to kill viruses.

          • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

            “We have got to learn to kill viruses.”

            I guarantee that drinking chlorine will result in the virus dying.

            …eventually.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 12:09 pm #

          A well developed mind just naturally corrects typos without even noticing. But of course you have to be in the ballpark of knowledge. If you’re not, it is confusing.

    • zenfugue May 18, 2020 at 12:31 pm #

      and while you’re at it … ‘severally’ unbalanced? (severely?)

  13. capt spaulding May 18, 2020 at 10:50 am #

    Ha ha, just read an opinion piece from the Wash. Post from a couple days ago. It was titled: ” IF TRUMP HAD BEEN IN CHARGE DURING WWII, THIS COLUMN WOULD BE IN GERMAN”. It’s a good read by conservative commentator Max Boot. Not to be confused with “Das Boot”.

    • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 10:54 am #

      Max Boot is a Neocon hack and propagandist from the Bush era.

      But low-IQ progs love Bush now. LOL.

      • JohnAZ May 18, 2020 at 10:58 am #

        The difference between Bush and Obama?

        Obama has slightly darker skin.

        • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 11:03 am #

          Yes, I was saying that since the start of Barack’s second term.

          The love affair modern progs have with Neocons like Bloody Bill Kristol, Max Boot, Condoleeza I-have-an-oil-tanker-named-after-me Rice, is truly incredible to watch.

          These sorts of individuals are not only vile, but progs wanted their heads on pikes during Shrub’s reign of terror. And rightly so, several of them are actual war criminals.

          The absolute state of the prog movement today is beyond parody.

          • benr May 18, 2020 at 11:21 am #

            That’s because the progressive movement is about total take over and power one party style rule like China nothing more.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 12:12 pm #

            I hadn’t realized it had gotten than overt. But it makes sense since they have no integral being or integrity. Neo-Liberalism is Neo-Conservatism and vice versa.

            There’s a great meme of the Joker saying, Things aren’t getting worse, they’re getting clearer.

          • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 4:59 pm #

            “I hadn’t realized it had gotten than overt.”

            They were parading Shrub around on daytime Beast talkshows about a year ago, yucking it up and complementing him on his shitty art.

            The modern prog movement is a joke.

        • draupnir May 18, 2020 at 11:46 am #

          Obama was Bush in black face. Hillary would have been Bush in drag. Biden would be Bush in decrepitude.

        • Rulo Deschamps May 18, 2020 at 7:28 pm #

          John AZ is right. I would add Clinton, Trump. No major difference in the policies of the last 4 admins. Pepsi & Coke. But folks start foaming at the mouth if you mention it, so I don’t. I just don’t think I’ll vote anymore.

      • benr May 18, 2020 at 11:07 am #

        Indeed they hated poppa Bush and then when he croaked the celebrated him like he was the second coming of Jesus.

        Same will be with GWBush ask yourself why?

        Because when he was attacked he presented his posterior for the reaming with nary a blink.

        Do you remember when he had a shoe thrown at him and he reflexively dodged it?
        That shoe thrower was jailed and tortured and then later kidnapped and had the absolute shit beat out of him.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RFH7C3vkK4

        • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 11:11 am #

          Yes, that shoe thrower was a hero to many of us who actually have a moral compass. It took some brass balls to do that.

          I did not hear about his fate, but it does not surprise me in the least.

          • sophia May 18, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

            Very sorry to hear that. I was cheering for him as well.

          • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

            I have a brother! George talked about people not gesturing with all five fingers but he was not being quite straight about it, no surprise there.

            I was about a quarter mile from Bill Gates’s house when Bush was running for re-election. I was at a gathering of people waiting in a nearby park. We were waiting to show George how we felt about his stupid murderous war. We had signs and shit. George was coming into town to meet some big timber poo-bah named Simpson I think at a 20K a plate dinner. Time was dragging by. It looked like George was not going to show. I decided to leave.

            Our car was behind the police line because we had got to the park before yellow tape had been set up. Mrs Dog was with me. The police line made a problem for us getting out but I knew we could leave easy by the back way and drive up Lake WA blvd to SR 520.

            George it turned out was only a bit late and he was sneaking in around the protest using the back way! George was coming down Lake WA blvd from the other direction. He had taken SR520 in from Seattle instead of coming in the easy way, up I-405. I saw a line of cars on the empty road coming fast at us with their headlights on. They were far away but I knew it was no funeral. But with as many guns as were about to be pointed at me it could have been mine.

            I told Mrs.Dog to pull over.

            I jumped out and got in front of our car and lifted my arm with middle finger extended. The lead motorcycle escort, four men, all turned white as a sheet when they saw me lift my arm. People really do turn white. I did not throw my shoe. I would have been ventilated and George was well protected behind his limo window. I could see it was thick.

            Standing by our license plate while I was doing this meant I was not hard to find. To this day Mrs. Dog accuses me of giving her ‘Phone Troubles‘ with the ‘agents‘ I brought into her life.

            So George was not being quite straight in his video clip. There was only one woman with a young son hardly old enough to hold a NO WDM sign who could have seen me flip[ the bird besides the people in the 100 car long motorcade from Sea-Tac. The protest was 3 blocks away and behind me.

            George was not being straight because I did not do it for attention. An obvious conclusion because hardly anybody could see me. I did it because George is an evil son of a bitch.

            And ‘Phone Troubles‘. Mrs. Dog is getting even. The day before yesterday she sent a tweet to Don Jr. asking if he was as dumb as his father. Don Jr. blocked her. I don’t know what he said to set Mrs. Dog off but I actually understands Dons’ position on this matter. If he told me I was as dumb as my father I’d kick his fucking ass or die trying, but women often say things men could never get by with.

          • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 12:51 pm #

            to hold a NO WMD sign who could have seen me flip the bird

    • JohnAZ May 18, 2020 at 11:04 am #

      No, Trump would not have played politics, would have promoted George Patton to supreme commander, and the war would have been over in 1944. The power people look at war as a way to extend their power.

      A line from a movie, I do not remember the name, had a CEO saying,

      What good is all this power, if I cannot order someone killed?

      Well stated.

      BTW, I hope you do not get all your BS from the Washington Rag.

      • capt spaulding May 18, 2020 at 11:11 am #

        No JAZ, it comes from a variety of sources: books, newspapers, and magazines. I even listen to Rush Limbaugh during my lunchtime. Admittedly a half hour is about all I can handle anyway.

        • JohnAZ May 18, 2020 at 11:29 am #

          My point was, however, that their statement was unadulterated BS. Trump fights problems, brings up issues, makes things happen. That is why the Deep State wants him gone. He fights back against the folks that are trying to tear down the country. That is a trait that neither of the Bushes had, much to the loss of America.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

            In all probability, he’s going to make us get vaccinated with a substance of unknown ingredients and qualities. Why isn’t he fighting that? He could but he isn’t.

            His Wall is an obscene joke.

          • Majella May 18, 2020 at 9:30 pm #

            JohnAZ – I’ll fix that for you

            Trump ignores problems, denies issues, lets things happen.”

          • HapMan May 18, 2020 at 10:41 pm #

            “Trump fights problems, brings up issues, makes things happen.”

            A vague and frivolous statement. You might just as well have said, “Trump does stuff!”

            What has he accomplished, specifically – besides signing the same McConnell/Ryan tax cut and appointing the same judges that Jeb or Rubio would have?

            Have you noticed that he has appointed a bunch of donor billionaires and bankers (DeVos, Ross, Mnuchin) and lobbyists (wtf are their names anyway?) to his cabinet, to run the federal government? McConnell’s wife, for Chrissakes?

            Are trillion dollar deficits what you meant by “making things happen”? Because you couldn’t possibly have meant effectively fighting the pandemic.

            Hasn’t he just run his mouth for three-plus years?

            And how’s all of this working out for you, JohnAZ?

  14. 100th Avatar May 18, 2020 at 11:06 am #

    Assuredly it will commence, but not before the prol class digests and spreads the real virus, the Newspeak.

    #thenewnormal

    How often has has one heard this phrase?
    How many times repeated? Mindlessly repeated.

    You will accept the abnormal. Most people are born unquestioning followers. They accept the programming readily.

    Encumbrances on freedom and movement, the shuttering of small businesses, the implosion of the public school system, new police powers, new state powers, the accelerated transfer of wealth, end of political conventions, mail-in voting, the closing of civil spaces, the necessity of virtual communication, virtual existence.

    You accept this all as you accept the meme

    The new normal

    Once known as abnormal

    • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 11:19 am #

      The Purple Beast appears to have a plan. I edited 3 articles for external dissemination on this rubbish today.

      Soon I am going to feel like Winston in 1984.

      • Majella May 20, 2020 at 6:45 am #

        Surely not! Are you compromising your principles? I’m shattered.

        • Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 4:15 pm #

          Not much. I use the Beast as it uses me. Then I take those proceeds to build a strong family and support friends in fighting the beast.

          The difference between you and I is that I can identify the Beast.

          • Majella May 21, 2020 at 6:52 am #

            But what was Winston’s fate?

          • Nightowl May 21, 2020 at 4:35 pm #

            Winston does not exist, Jello.

          • Majella May 22, 2020 at 8:08 am #

            Soon I am going to feel like Winston in 1984

            You really are an utterly humourless piece of work, and too afraid of Winston’s fate to address it.

            “Winton lost his individuality to the Ministry of Love, all the unique characteristics that made Winton be himself and comprised his personality disappeared.”

            In your case, many would find it a blessing.

          • Majella May 22, 2020 at 8:38 am #

            And also, I really need to know

            Who’s the WH Doctor, HigIQwl?.

    • sophia May 18, 2020 at 12:48 pm #

      100

      Repetition is one of the tools of mind control (brainwashing).

      • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 7:51 am #

        I know. Some people keep repeating memes like ‘31,000 scientists’ (out of 10 million and not even bothering with the ones outside the US) and thinking if they say ‘but 31,000 scientists’ often enough, the dimmer bulbs will eventually fall for it.

      • benr May 19, 2020 at 9:41 am #

        Also of learning so there is that.

    • Majella May 20, 2020 at 6:43 am #

      ‘New Normal’…

      First time I heard it was right after 9/11…then again after the GFC Takedown…it seems a perfectly normal response to fundamental shifts in how we perceive the world after a shock.

      But you go ahead and turn it into a left-wing conspiracy, because then you can get & stay angry.

      • benr May 20, 2020 at 10:15 am #

        Or it really is a bunch of malarkey and people not stuck in the imperial conditioning of Socialism see it for what it really is an erosion of freedom.

        • Majella May 20, 2020 at 11:52 am #

          What isn’t, in your nightmare world?

  15. venuspluto67 May 18, 2020 at 11:17 am #

    The parallel between the two plagues that I find the most telling is the need to turn the event into a blame-game, when the Occam’s Razor explanation is that these pandemics are just something that happens when swelling human population numbers put a rapidly-increasing strain on the resource-base that supports it. Living out of balance at the expense of the natural world provokes the natural world into a forced re-balancing, and the longer a necessary re-balancing is put off, the more unpleasant it will be for humans when it is finally forced in some way.

    • tlauria May 18, 2020 at 11:46 am #

      So, you don’t think there was any engineering behind the Covid-19?
      You think it was just Mother Nature being a bitchy re-balancer?

      • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 5:07 pm #

        I think Occam’s Razor was engineered by the cat over at Snopes to stop thinking before it starts.

        • Majella May 20, 2020 at 3:18 am #

          Maybe it was Shroedinger’s cat?

    • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

      Well get used to it. Gates has plenty more where that one came from. Of course I guess you could call him the servant of Gaia. I see him as a criminal who needs to be brought to justice.

      Mediate on his word, “Pandemic 1”. One doesn’t call something 1 unless there is more than 1, right? Or unless one is planning more than 1….

      • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 1:09 pm #

        He can still do math in his head way better than you can. Problem is, he thinks that is important.

        Occam’s razor is used as a device when cause is unknown. It does not apply here. This is a well understood phenomena without any mystery. That is, unless you have a need to cultivate mystery in your own noggin as most people are wired to do. Having alternate realities keeps bad thoughts away. That is why we do it.

        Bill had a set of LP records that taught him how to do the math. A fact left out of Bill’s reality except as a passing mention.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 1:20 pm #

          They did a run thru six weeks before the outbreak, called Event 201. Coincidence? Prove it. Occam’s razor favors me not you.

        • Q. Shtik May 19, 2020 at 12:21 am #

          phenomenon

    • Q. Shtik May 19, 2020 at 12:15 am #

      the Occam’s Razor explanation is that these pandemics are just something that happens when swelling human population numbers put a rapidly-increasing strain on the resource-base that supports it. – venus

      ===========

      This is essentially my view too. Namely, that most of man’s problems come down to extremely excessive population of the planet. We need to get down to 500 million people or perhaps one billion and stay there for a long time, perhaps permanently to allow the planet to recover from all the damage we’ve done. The question is, HOW to accomplish this drastic reduction in headcount.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 2:15 am #

        I don’t disagree – wish I could but I can’t. Christianity doesn’t have any answers here, not good ones. Breed and subdue the Earth is not what we need to hear. We’re ready for new instructions as we have fulfilled the earlier ones.

        • Q. Shtik May 19, 2020 at 1:23 pm #

          We’re ready for new instructions as we have fulfilled the earlier ones. – Janos

          =========

          That’s the thing Janos, no voice came out of the clouds and told us to do this (go forth and populate the earth). It’s all in our heads. It’s a myth that, given the available open space a few thousand years ago, seemed quite logical. With current information we can see how foolish this ‘directive from on high’ was. Don’t expect the Pope to tell you a big mistake was made.

          • benr May 20, 2020 at 10:22 am #

            How would you actually know that?
            There is zero scientific evidence God does not exist how ever empirical evidence is all around you that something sure did or does.
            Intelligent design is written all over the universe, planets, oceans, continents on down to the tiniest ant.
            They are still searching for the God particle or Higgs boson if you will.
            Even Einstein refused to say there was no God.

            Einstein only ever spoke of God idiomatically, meaning nothing more by his frequent references to the divine. Our star witness here is Einstein himself. A global celebrity and known for his willingness to talk God as much as physics, he was frequently asked, in private and public, to pronounce on his beliefs. In as far as these can be summed up, they appear to be deistic. “I’m not an atheist and I don’t think I can call myself a pantheist,” he once said when asked to define God. “I believe in Spinoza’s God,” he told Rabbi Herbert Goldstein of the Institutional Synagogues of New York, “who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists.” All the finer speculations in the realm of science “spring from a deep religious feeling,” he remarked in 1930. In the order, beauty and intelligibility of creation, he found signs of the ‘God’ he also heard throughout his life in music.

          • Majella May 20, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

            I’ll do the attribution for you benr. I always get suspicious if you present a coherent (grammatically) sentence, let alone a whole paragraph. But plagiarism is what it is:

            https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/philosophy/did-albert-einstein-believe-in-god

  16. JohnAZ May 18, 2020 at 11:36 am #

    Well!

    Biden has all the appeal of a wet dish rag. So, DNC, what to do?

    Let’s bring Obama, finally, out to attack Trump over the pandemic. The “leader” of the party that really caused the reaction delay in January. The fact that Americans even listen to the balderdash this man is spouting off shows the success of the stupidification effort by the Dems.

    BTW, I notice that Obama attacks Trump, has nothing good to say about Biden, and has absolutely no answers or alternatives to what the CDC and NIH did to counter the virus.

    Just political noise.

    • capt spaulding May 18, 2020 at 11:46 am #

      I have nothing good to say about Biden either, but if it comes down to him or Trump, I’ll hold my nose and vote for Biden. I hate it when my choices come down to being shot or stabbed.

      • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

        That’s if Biden is still with us. Last time I saw him he was looking kind of wobbly, and the election is still 5 1/2 months away.

      • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 4:57 pm #

        Vote for Max Boot or Bill Kristol. I doubt you know the difference.

        • Majella May 20, 2020 at 6:48 am #

          Are they standing? Either of them?

          No.

          I like this though -Bill Kristol on Twitter;

          ‘ We’ve seen Susan Rice’s memo. We’ve seen the list of requested unmaskings by Obama officials.
          Now could we see the transcripts of all the Kislyak-Flynn calls?’

          #releasetheFlynnKislyaktranscripts!

          • Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 8:36 am #

            Yes, release them as Flynn’s defense has requested.

            Maj scores another own goal.

          • Majella May 22, 2020 at 8:40 am #

            Who’s the WH Doctor, HigIQwl?.

  17. sophia May 18, 2020 at 11:39 am #

    China – 1.4 billion people, 4600 deaths, 16 day lockdown, economy not destroyed.

    USA – 330 million people – approx 80,000 deaths, lockdown two months.

    Who is lying?

    Is China using hydrochloroquine (a cure) and IV vitamin C?

    • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 12:22 pm #

      Why the binary? Both are lying, one deflating out of national pride and one inflating out of globalist hubris and desire for chaos.

      Believe it or not, China is the more righteous in their motivation.

      • sophia May 18, 2020 at 12:50 pm #

        If you say they are both lying, that is an acceptable answer. What I don’t accept is those numbers.

    • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 8:08 am #

      “Is China using hydrochloroquine (a cure) ”

      Hydroxychloroquine is not, at this stage, known to be ‘a cure’. Hydroxychloroquine, which people seem happy to push when they don’t even know how to spell it, is a risky drug used experimentally in this context. My husband, who knows rather more than you do, called it ‘bloody dangerous stuff’.

      The results in the US vets study showed the following death rates, according to treatment:

      (1) Hydroxychloraquine only: 27.8%

      (2) Hydroxychloraquine and azithromycin in combination: 22.1%

      (3) No hydroxychloraquine: 11.4%

      The conclusions of the researchers were:

      In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19. An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.

      Will this stop people lauding hydroxychloraquine to the skies, without those randomised, controlled studies? You tell me.

      Some more info, for CT fans:

      https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-faked-veterans-study/false-claim-study-on-treatment-of-us-veterans-with-hydroxychloroquine-was-faked-fauci-fabricated-results-idUSKCN2291YU

      https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-brazilian-chloroquine-study/true-claimbrazilian-chloroquine-studyon-covid-19-patients-washalted-after11deaths-idUSKBN21Z395

      • benr May 19, 2020 at 9:43 am #

        Z-max is fricking dangerous stuff I know people who have had kidney issues after taking that crap.

      • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 10:28 am #

        Perhaps your husband should get in touch with Ronny Jackson. I am sure he will get Trump off that stuff immediately.

        The arrogance. FFS.

        • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 10:55 am #

          It’s not about my husband.

          https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v2

          The arrogance, FFS.

          The childishness, FFS.

          • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 11:30 am #

            Quick, tell Trump and Ronny.

            Send them the link you found on the Interwebz.

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 12:28 pm #

            Stop being a wanker, Needy. It’s a research study carried out in a Vets’ hospital in the US. It’s a site that both Yale and the BMJ are happy with.

            You’re showing yourself up, you muppet.

          • benr May 19, 2020 at 1:25 pm #

            @ga

            So you are an anti-vaccer?

            Have you ever read the inserts for even just the flu vaccine?
            Common:
            A Feeling Of General Discomfort Called Malaise
            A Fibrous Thickening Of The Skin Called Induration
            Bruising
            Chills
            Erythema Or Skin Redness
            Headache
            Itching
            Low Energy
            Muscle Pain
            Reactions At The Site Of The Injection

            INFREQUENT side effects

            If experienced, these tend to have a Less Severe expression
            Changes In Appetite
            Cough
            Diarrhea
            Fever
            Joint Pain
            Nausea
            Throat Irritation
            Vomiting

            Rare but still do happen:.
            A Disorder Of The Brachial Plexus, A Bundle Of Nerves In The Shoulder
            A Hypersensitivity Reaction To A Drug
            A Serum Sickness Reaction
            A Significant Type Of Allergic Reaction Called Anaphylaxis
            A Skin Disorder With Blistering And Peeling Skin Called Stevens-Johnson Syndrome
            A Type Of Allergic Reaction Called Angioedema
            A Type Of Brain Function Problem Called Encephalopathy
            Bell’s Palsy Paralysis Of One Side Of The Face
            Cellulitis
            Decreased Blood Platelets
            Guillain-Barre Syndrome
            Inflammation Of The Blood Vessels
            Inflammation Of The Spinal Cord
            Sudden Blindness And Pain Upon Moving The Eye
            Trouble Breathing

            It’s a shit show of horrible possible reactions.
            By comparison to ANY vaccine hydroxychloroquine is very mild and low numbers to be assumed as safe.
            Meanwhile the vaccine makers have been given blanket immunity to all the above and can’t be sued.

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 3:08 pm #

            “By comparison to ANY vaccine hydroxychloroquine is very mild and low numbers to be assumed as safe.”

            You just said that without offering the slightest evidence, benr.

            “Meanwhile the vaccine makers have been given blanket immunity to all the above and can’t be sued.”

            And you just made that up. You just gave me the list of possible side effects of the flu vaccine, so any other vaccine has to produce the same list of possible side effects.

          • benr May 19, 2020 at 6:02 pm #

            @ga

            Do you not know how to use google or duckduckgo?

            https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-22

            https://www.policymed.com/2011/03/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-protecting-vaccine-makers-from-state-lawsuits.html

            I’m sure the EU has the same nonsense.

          • Majella May 19, 2020 at 7:45 pm #

            Quick! Tell Trump and Ronny!”

            As I understand it, since the embarrassing demise of ‘Ronny’, the WH Doctor is currently one Sean Conley.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Conley

            Accuracy, FFS.

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 7:47 pm #

            “Do you not know how to use google or duckduckgo?”

            See below.

            “I’m sure the EU has the same nonsense.”

            It’s better to be informed than to be ‘sure’, benr.

            https://law.emory.edu/elj/content/volume-67/issue-3/articles/liability-vaccine-injury-united-european-world.html

            Not that the UK is in the EU, which I seem nevertheless to have to keep reminding people.

            From your previous comment:

            “By comparison to ANY vaccine hydroxychloroquine is very mild and low numbers to be assumed as safe.”

            In addition to providing no actual data, you have forgotten that the issue is not the use of HC for the conditions for which it has been tested and approved, but its use in the treatment of Covid19. At the present time, there is no adequate evidence to support its use (there may be at some point but there isn’t now) and you still need to explain why all those Vets given HC died in greater numbers than those who were given other treatments. Way greater numbers (28% against 11%).

          • benr May 20, 2020 at 10:29 am #

            @ga

            The point being if they peddle out a vaccine with possible horrible side effects you will roll up your sleeve and say gimme?

            I having been in the military was used as a guinea pig over and over for less than credible vaccines the worst being Anthrax.

            I will never again accept some vaccine just because.

          • GreenAlba May 20, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

            benr

            ” I will never again accept some vaccine just because.”

            Neither will I. I will consider a vaccine where the evidence demonstrates that it is safe. And I have never advocated anything else.

            MMR is safe. The evidence has demonstrated that repeatedly. But a crowd of anti-science anti-vaxxers have caused the deaths of a whole lot of extra children around the world in recent years with their stupidity and arrogance.

            I saw one young Mexican woman who’d lost both her children to measles – a toddler and a four-year-old – and could only regret desperately that she’d been taken in by those irresponsible propagandists.

        • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 11:00 am #

          Leaving aside the ‘milder’ side effects of hydroxychloroquine, the more serious (albeit obviously rarer) side effects include:

          – blurred vision, which may be permanent in some cases

          – heart disease, including heart failure and issues with heart
          rhythm (which can be fatal)

          – mental health effects, including suicidal thoughts.

          That list is not exclusive.

          Only the woefully ignorant use expressions like ‘entirely safe’ in such a context.

          • benr May 19, 2020 at 1:28 pm #

            Pale face women speak with forked tongue.
            If memory serves me right you ignore the horrible side effects of any and all vaccines yet you are worried about the super low reactions to hydroxychloroquine with 100’s of millions of doses given out in the last forty years?

          • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 4:25 pm #

            She is already backpedaling. Note the last sentence.

            As I said, send your findings to the team of physicians assisting the President of the United States.

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 6:03 pm #

            “She is already backpedaling. Note the last sentence.

            As I said, send your findings to the team of physicians assisting the President of the United States.”

            Name dropping, Needy. It’s not the same as evidence.

            And I haven’t backpedalled. YOU said on a previous thread that it was ‘entirely safe’. It isn’t entirely safe. No need to backpedal on that.

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 6:08 pm #

            benr

            Your memory doesn’t serve you right. But if you want to help you can point me to the particular vaccines you think I’ve championed, along with their scientifically confirmed ‘horrible effects’.

            I can recall MMR and polio, but please add to the list (and they don’t have ‘horrible effects’).

            And I’ll be perfectly fine with hydroxycholoroquine just as soon as there’s evidence to confirm (a) it’s entirely safe (for Needy, since that’s his claim) and (b) it is effective against Covid19.

            Neither you nor Needy has commented on the research based on the 368 US Vets and the fact that more than twice as many (percentage-wise) treated with HC died than those not given HC. And yet this point is waiting for you to respond.

          • Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 7:47 am #

            Mentioning that the President takes the drug and is advised by a group of accomplished physicians is “name dropping.”

            Emotions getting the best of you again.

            LOL.

          • GreenAlba May 20, 2020 at 10:34 am #

            “Mentioning that the President takes the drug and is advised by a group of accomplished physicians is “name dropping.”

            Yes. In the absence of evidence. You didn’t ‘mention’ that the president takes the drug – you used that fact to assert the supposed value of the drug. You bleat constantly about concrete evidence, so now you look a tit. Or an arse. Whatever.

            “Emotions getting the best of you again.”

            I’m afraid your emotions have indeed got the better of you. You can’t let go. Quit when you’re behind, poor needy muppet.

            Lots and lots of LOLZ.

          • GreenAlba May 20, 2020 at 10:41 am #

            And if you’re not an insecure, over-emotional, over-needy muppet, who repeatedly intervenes in comments for no other purpose than hoping to show off his High IQ and insult other people, you’ll have no trouble apologising to capt spaulding for confusing him with someone else. I mean, it wouldn’t hurt so much, would it?

            C’mon, you can do it. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.

          • Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 4:06 pm #

            Ah, yes. The President takes it, and the President is advised by a group of highly talented physicians.

            The President needs the blessing of this highly respected group, or else he cannot take the drug, as this group is responsible for the health of one of the most powerful men in the world.

            Clearly this is all a sham, because you know better.

            LOL.

            I have injured the narcissist.

          • GreenAlba May 20, 2020 at 6:35 pm #

            Kermit

            You’re the saddest, most emotionally driven, overly needy, narcisstic wanker on this board. I feel truly sorry for your little boy. When he gets a little older he’ll find out how cringe-making it is to have a father who carries on like you.

            Let it go, muppet. You’re embarrassing.

            And look up Evidence-Based Medicine. It replaced the old system where a consultant just told the new students what he thought was best because he never looked beyond his own wards.

            But maybe after you’ve explained how 28% of the patients in the Vets study died while being treated with HCQ, while only 11% of the ones on other treatments did.

            Muppet. You couldn’t injure a paper bag.

          • Nightowl May 21, 2020 at 6:36 am #

            “I am right! The President’s medical team is wrong!”

            LOL.

          • Majella May 21, 2020 at 6:58 am #

            GA, it’s pointless.

            He’s a little shitty playground bully, who knows EXACTLY how accurately you’ve sized him up and is screaming inside.

            However, he can’t show any sort of injury what with his lonesome sidekick, benr, looking on.

            So he yanks your figurative ponytail, calls you a name, and runs away. Exactly as you & I remember this type from primary school.

          • Majella May 21, 2020 at 6:59 am #

            HigIQwl – are you still asserting that Ronny Johnson is the White House Doctor, or are you, as usual, just ignoring and deflecting from your egregious error?

          • GreenAlba May 21, 2020 at 12:28 pm #

            ““I am right! The President’s medical team is wrong!”

            LOL.”

            Kermit, for fuck’s sake get a life and maybe take some valium. If you need some validation of your high-IQ, go and speak to your little boy, The gradient might still be valid for a month or two more.

            You’ve painted yourself into a corner and you just don’t understand.

            You’ve just shown, yet again, that you haven’t the slightest comprehension of what evidence-based medicine is, which is absolutely nothing to do with anyone being right or wrong.

            And you are making a complete muppet of yourself. Did you fret all night because you hadn’t had the last word, like some emotionally whizzing Dervish?

            You should maybe get a job in STM publishing – possibly you’ve just spent too many years editing fog.

            BTW, an ‘experienced editor’ with a High IQ shouldn’t be getting commenters mixed up.

            Maybe don’t include that one one your CeeVee when you apply for a job as Guardian of the Presdential Sphincter (a job with a pedigree going back to the Pharoahs). I’m more than happy to give you references as to your suitability for the job, though, Kermit.

            LOLZ 🙂

          • GreenAlba May 21, 2020 at 12:34 pm #

            Do you know what’s sad, Kermit?

            It’s that when you first came on here you were an OK commenter. Your arguments were fine. Then you got carried away with yourself and everyone you didn’t agree with had to have a low IQ.

            That and the feckin’ LOLZ after every post, and moronic stuff like ‘rekt’, as if you were in a chat room for 12-year-olds.

            You didn’t have to become a muppet. You chose to all by yourself. Maybe things aren’t good at home. Sorry.

          • Nightowl May 21, 2020 at 4:31 pm #

            You are a full on narc., Green. It is enjoyable to razz you because you fly off the handle every time anyone even mildly challenges you. And you make it so easy.

            Pause for a moment and think about what you suggested here — That you know more than a team of elite professionals responsbile for the life of the President of the United States.

            And you really believe it.

            It is beyond parody.

          • GreenAlba May 21, 2020 at 5:02 pm #

            Go back to editing your fog, Kermit.

            Hope you feel better, soon.

            Love and fishes, Auntie Alba xx

            PS hope you sleep better tonight. 🙂

            LOLZ

          • GreenAlba May 21, 2020 at 5:03 pm #

            “responsbile”

            Hahahahaha. That’s a brilliant one. Response bile.

            Editor of the year.

            LOLZ

          • GreenAlba May 21, 2020 at 5:08 pm #

            “Pause for a moment and think about what you suggested here — That you know more than a team of elite professionals responsbile for the life of the President of the United States.”

            That you still think that’s what I said is what’s beyond parody. How the actual f*ck did you ever get a job as an editor?

            LOL

            LOL again.

          • GreenAlba May 21, 2020 at 5:39 pm #

            And I even know what you’re going to say next, Kermit. 🙂

          • Nightowl May 22, 2020 at 3:58 am #

            “I know more than the President’s staff of physicians”

            LOL.

            Narcissistic injury is a glorious thing.

          • GreenAlba May 22, 2020 at 5:25 am #

            Morning, Kermit

            “Narcissistic injury is a glorious thing.”

            It surely is. And Trump has injured the narcissist. Hope you had a better night nevertheless. They say mindfulness helps with emotional turmoil.

            Two Pro Tips, as you like to say:

            (1) Repeating the same misunderstanding is pretty much the same as repeating the same action and expecting a different result. I don’t need to tell you the rest.

            (2) Thinking of that CeeVee, ‘office’ and ‘family’ have the same number of letters. Writing ‘office and fam.’ saves you two keystrokes. And makes you look like a pretentious twerp, unless, talking of strokes (oo-er, missus), your wrist suddenly became overly tired.

            Yours ever
            Auntie Alba xx

          • GreenAlba May 22, 2020 at 5:26 am #

            And thanks for all the fun. I’ve enjoyed it immensely. xx

          • GreenAlba May 22, 2020 at 5:54 am #

            A belated thought. You being in da media an’ all, you could try for the film rights for ‘All the President’s Physicians’. With all those illustrious contacts you have, finance might be a piece of piss. Sorry, was that rude? You being a family man an’ all.

            You’ve got your part already. I’ll be generous and give it 65% in advance on Rotten Tomatoes. All the best.

          • Majella May 22, 2020 at 8:16 am #

            Hey, HigIQwl

            Face it, buddy. GA just nailed you on every point.

            Schadenfreude.

          • Majella May 22, 2020 at 8:41 am #

            and…

            Who’s the WH Doctor, HigIQwl?.

          • GreenAlba May 22, 2020 at 9:40 am #

            Don’t confuse the poor man, Majella. He’s still trying to distinguish captain spalding from Robert White. Then he’s going to apologise to both of them in perfectly edited copy.

            And all the while trying to reconcile himself to the POTUS wearing a low-IQ, high-submission mask in what was, for the POTUS, a quite unshowy and sensible volte face. OK, the ‘it looked very nice, very nice’ was ‘old Trump’, but I even supported him when someone gloatingly asked why he didn’t still have it on and he said because it wasn’t necessary now and he didn’t want the press to see it and do their thing (I paraphrase). Respect. And credit where credit’s due. Compromise can be painful for some people. Kermit would just have said ‘I have injured the narcissist’, like the unwinding Stepford Wife he seems to be channelling via his five-year-old.

            I have high hopes for an imminent improvement, though. No-one can stay five forever.

            https://www.scrapbook.com/poems/doc/13273.html

          • Majella May 22, 2020 at 7:53 pm #

            GA…that was an exquisite exchange and thanks for reminding me of how wonderful being six …is?was? Do we ever lose that early sense of self? I trust not.

  18. jim e May 18, 2020 at 11:40 am #

    “Sun went down in honey.
    Moon came up in wine.
    Stars were spinnin’ dizzy,
    Lord, the band kept us so busy
    We forgot about the time.”

    Everybody’s dancing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQyci8_54gU

  19. Pucker May 18, 2020 at 11:53 am #

    Chasten Buttigieg
    @Chasten
    ·
    May 13
    You matter.

    You are enough.

    No, no. I mean it.
    Stop scrolling.
    Take a deep breath.
    Say it to yourself.

    “I matter.”

    “I am enough.”

    “I deserve a snack!”

    Wait, how did that last one get in here?

  20. Pucker May 18, 2020 at 11:56 am #

    It doesn’t look like the people are going to rebel despite the high unemployment?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qpsrY0PhgRo

  21. Pucker May 18, 2020 at 12:16 pm #

    It seems that the high school kids in the prestigious US prep schools now have to “volunteer” to undertake “Community Service” for their university applications. They’ve basically institutionalized Virtue Signaling and made it compulsory, which is weird because everyone can see how superficial and bogus it is.

    The problem with Virtue Signaling is that it basically requires a very simplistic Black-and-White view of the world whereas Reality is very complicated and nuanced. Thus, in order to be able to Virtue Signal, they have to throw Reality overboard? During the Cultural Revolution, Chairman Mao was the Moral Paradigm ( the father figure, Demi-god). So anything done on behalf of Chairman Mao or Mao‘a Thought was Virtuous and anything but blind dogmatic very passionate violent displays was heresy. In order for this to work, they had to throw Reality to the dogs.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 12:31 pm #

      Yes, the reign of the feminine mindset and value system. The only way to feel like a man in such a milieu is to kick heads in. The State graciously provides such victims – like people who refuse to wear the hijab and keep spewing their water droplets talking about the Bill of Rights.

      • sophia May 18, 2020 at 1:07 pm #

        The mayor of Los Angeles, not a hot spot but lightly impacted, has extended the lockdown for 3 more months and allows some exercise at the beach – provided you do not stay on the dry sand but only on the wet sand?
        Crazy?

        People want to recall him as mayor and I think it should be easy to do – but to gather the signatures when you’re not allowed outside?

        • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

          Why the wet sand? So people don’t lie down close to each other to cook? Pretty crazy. Like Governor Whitless of Michigan roping off the garden section and outdoor tool section in Walmart. Why?

          I can’t sunbathe except in the winter time. I’m an extreme northern type. The sun is too hot at this latitude between Mid-April to the second week in October. And then it’s too cold to take off my shirt so i just take off my hat and face the Sun, the Lord of the Dance in this system.

          • sophia May 18, 2020 at 3:07 pm #

            I don’t know why the wet sand. I can only guess either he has some strange aspects of his psyche, or that he has heard the virus likes dry and not wet. I doubt that translates to sand on a sunny beach. I bet the chance of catching the virus from sand is about 10 billion to one. The nitpicky bullying is unbelievable.

            Are you a redhead? Freckles?

          • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 6:23 pm #

            Yes, in my youth, many. Now a general flush seems to have superseded them.

          • Majella May 19, 2020 at 7:50 pm #

            Yes, in my youth, many. Now a general flush seems to have superseded them.”

            A ‘general flush’ of freckles? You may well be quite ‘brown’ then?

        • SW May 18, 2020 at 4:01 pm #

          The rules are arbitrary to see if you’ll obey them and if the people ordered to enforce them, will. There’s no reason whatsoever for the lockdown to continue or to wear a facemark unless you are chronically ill and nervous. Handwashing and staying home if you’re sick are common sense precautions all the time.

          If you’ve ever seen Waiting for Superman (funded by the Gates Foundation) you might want to consider the conspiracy theory that this will fundamentally destroy the public school system. It was an infomercial for charter schools and Gates is a big booster of them. Think of the money saved if most “education” was from home — one teacher for hundreds of students, and you could fire all those pesky union teachers, no benefits, no salary, no retirement to pay. Commandant Fauci was on TV last week floating the idea that school may not open in the fall. And Gavin (aka The Spaniel) Newson has cancelled public university classes already.

          • sophia May 18, 2020 at 11:29 pm #

            The universities are committing suicide. People are already rethinking spending all that money on a degree, now a lot of people are poorer, and they sent the students home in a rush in March. So they are sitting at home with their laptops and paying the full tuition? How long before the parents decide maybe they didn’t need to go to college in person after all? How long will they pay that tuition? If they don’t open in the fall, if not summer, I think their gooses may be cooked. I know the institutions are liberal, but can they possibly be that stupid?

          • Q. Shtik May 19, 2020 at 1:10 am #

            The universities are committing suicide. People are already rethinking spending all that money on a degree – sophia

            ========

            And well they should. I will be glad if half the universities in the country shut down. It is absurd to think that everybody and his brother should go to college. Many people simply are not college material. Take my b-i-l, Peter (please). He attended college in West Virginia for 3 semesters until they threw him out. One semester his GPA was 1.25 and the other two were only slightly better. And most of his classes were bullshit fluff courses. If the subject ever comes up he tells people he has “an Associates in Marketing” which is freaking laughable.

            And the cost of college and the associated government backed loan system is a crime…… but everybody knows that.

          • Majella May 19, 2020 at 7:55 pm #

            I remember, as a child in NZ (maybe aged 11 or 12), learning that ‘In America, you can get a degree in Carpark Management’.

            It seemed absurd at the time, and maybe it was a joke. Nowadays, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a pre-requisite.

          • SW May 21, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

            @ sophia, shitk, majella — Universities have metastized into ATM machines for the administrators and coaches and what the students get in return for their “investment in their future” is a ticket to debt peonage and an exit in four years not much smarter than when they entered. I’ve read too many articles by professors who confirm how common grade inflation, kneeling to political correctness, and lack of preparedness by incoming freshmen is to doubt the truth of their statements.

            If the virus is used as an excuse to shut down the public schools, grades 1 thru 12, and it all goes to online b.s. classes, America is finished. About 30 years ago I remember a senator (don’t remember his name) said — if you think education is expensive just wait till you try ignorance.

      • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 1:14 pm #

        As many times as you have mentioned hijab in this blog it is rather obvious what you like to dress up as when you are alone and feel the need. I bet it makes you hot and sweaty. It would have to!

        • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 1:18 pm #

          You’re going to get it, Kdog. So why wear it except to virtue signal? Or do you enjoy wearing it?

          • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 2:06 pm #

            What you say I am going to get I don’t want.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 2:15 pm #

            Buddha said that’s one of the reasons life is suffering: not getting what we want and getting what we don’t want.

          • sophia May 18, 2020 at 3:09 pm #

            A muzzle would be about right.

          • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 11:24 pm #

            “Buddha said that’s one of the reasons life is suffering: not getting what we want and getting what we don’t want.”

            Janos,
            It also applies to getting what we do want.

    • malthuss May 18, 2020 at 3:10 pm #

      And to get an AA or BA at some skools, ‘global citizenship’ courses.

    • SpeedyBB May 19, 2020 at 10:38 am #

      When I visited China for around a month, in 2017, I associated mostly with people whose parents were likely yelling and running around and waving The Little Red Book. I was visiting a friend in a hospital located in a second-tier city (the best kind to tune in to local culture), and so I was associating mostly with doctors and hospital personnel. I found them energetic, optimistic, moderately materialistic but deeply cynical. Smart enough not to start spouting off about what shitheads are running the country / province / city, but the karma of the Cultural Revolution has been to create a class of profound unbelievers. While there were huge billboards all over the city exhorting citizens to do that or that and avoid doing that there over yonder, one smiling piggy-face was conspicuous by its absence. Notably so. The only place you commonly saw the murderous emperor / poet was on the paper currency.

      Smiling.

  22. RB May 18, 2020 at 1:00 pm #

    Some help here please.

    I need a wheelbarrow to carry money to buy a loaf of bread anticipating some small financial changes.

    I’m old so would I do better with a single wheel or a double wheel? I use a cane so that will make things more difficult.

    Suggestions?

    • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 1:11 pm #

      One missionary in Africa had to go away for a few days. During that time the wheelbarrows arrived. When he got back, he was greeted with panic. The foreman said the new tools are causing tremendous problems, many are being injured and quitting. He went to see what was going on: the Africans were using the wheelbarrows as they previously used the baskets, carrying them on their heads.

      They never had the wheel and they never invented writing.

      Don’t carry it on your head and you should be fine. I’d say the single wheel would be easier to maneuver with one hand.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 2:15 pm #

        Have you checked out the Zambian Space Program yet?

      • Q. Shtik May 19, 2020 at 1:31 am #

        During that time the wheelbarrows arrived. – Janos

        ===========

        As you know, I am a stickler (or as some might say, ‘a pain in the ass’) about words, spelling, pronunciation, etc. even with my wife. I don’t know how she tolerates it. Just today she was doing some gardening out back, re-potting plants, and such and she says to me “We have a wheelbarrel don’t we? And I answer, “barrow.”

        • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 2:17 am #

          But it is a barrel on wheels, isn’t it? What’s a barrow?

          • Q. Shtik May 19, 2020 at 1:02 pm #

            But it is a barrel on wheels, isn’t it? What’s a barrow? – Janos

            ==========

            No connection at all between barrel and barrow. Look it up. And, BTW, do you know how to look up word definitions and pronunciations almost instantaneously?

          • GreenAlba May 20, 2020 at 6:10 am #

            “What’s a barrow?”

            In addition to the above…

            A Neolithic burial mound (tumulus).

            Or sometimes just a hill.

            Also apparently a castrated male swine.

      • elysianfield May 19, 2020 at 11:08 am #

        Janos,
        Then there is the story of the man observed bringing money across the border in a wheelbarrow. Every Day. This went on for weeks until competent authority stopped him.

        He was smuggling wheelbarrows….

    • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

      Yes

      In 2016 Zimbabwe printed a Trillion Dollar note.

      Value was about 43 US cents.

      RB, get yourself one of those.

      Brh

    • DurangoKid May 18, 2020 at 1:26 pm #

      Use a credit card.

  23. Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 1:06 pm #

    Leftists: Believe the doctors.
    Rand Paul: I’m a doctor and a survivor of Covid19.
    Leftists: We meant the Swedish child.

    Greta has been put on a Covid19 task force or something. She’s been mooning around for months, not knowing what to do with herself and wilting away with the lack of attention. She has no qualifications? As if she had any as per Global Warming?

    She’s going to be with us for the rest of our lives. It’s either that or she gets depressed again and stops eating. As she would say, YOU are killing her!

    Is it time to reopen our Nietzsche? Didn’t he say something about the weak lording it over the strong?

    • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

      You brought it on yourself you horse beater. It was you!!

    • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 3:35 pm #

      Janos’s comedic talent is on display again. That back and forth is good stuff.

      • Majella May 22, 2020 at 8:45 am #

        Who’s the WH Doctor, HigIQwl?.

  24. Pucker May 18, 2020 at 1:13 pm #

    What do you think of successful black people with a good sense-of-humor?

    Tomorrow is Malcolm X’s (and Ho Chi Minh’s) birthday.

    Free Bill Cosby!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_YTzO9Kh2kY

    • Pucker May 18, 2020 at 1:55 pm #

      It seems that Bill Cosby only associated with men on his social level? He didn’t seem too particular about race, but he didn’t seem to associate with women? He probably had a fucked up relationship with his mom?

      • Pucker May 18, 2020 at 2:09 pm #

        Bill Cosby was destroyed by the mob feverishly Virtue Signaling in response to the #MeToo Movement similar to the Red Guards responding to Chairman Mao?

      • benr May 19, 2020 at 9:45 am #

        Or he had such bad thoughts he had to use some self control.

  25. K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 1:33 pm #

    Dance Macabre

    I’ve had my fun in the comment section but now I’ve reached the end. This was a great article.

    Covid is not the Black Death this is true. Very true unless it happens to you.

    Yet.

    MERCUTIO
    Yes, yes. It’s a scratch, just a scratch. But it’s enough. Where is my page? Go, boy. Get me a doctor.

    ROMEO
    Have courage, man. The wound can’t be that bad.

    MERCUTIO
    No, it’s not as deep as a well, or as wide as a church door, but it’s enough. It’ll do the job. Ask for me tomorrow, and you’ll find me in a grave. I’m done for in this world, I believe. May a plague strike both your houses. Goddammit! I can’t believe that dog, that rat, that mouse, that cat could scratch me to death! That braggart, punk villain who fights like he learned swordsmanship from a manual! Why the hell did you come in between us? He struck me from under your arm.

    .
    .
    .

    It’s a scratch, just a scratch. But it’s enough.

    The name MERCUTIO is an attempt to anagramize the phrase ‘AMERICAN ECONOMY’. I wonder how did the eternal bard knew what was coming? ‘UT’ being Old English for ‘Y’ and they switched up ‘M’ and ‘N’ back then too.

  26. K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

    May a plague strike both your houses. KDFP

    • SoftStarLight May 18, 2020 at 1:47 pm #

      That doesn’t sound very nice K-dog.

      • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

        It is not meant to be nice. The Democratic and Republican Parties have ruined the nation. That is why I offer an alternative.

        • SoftStarLight May 18, 2020 at 2:11 pm #

          I agree with you that both parties have ruined the country.

          • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 2:24 pm #

            If I did not have genuine disgust for what the elite political class has done to our nation KDFP would be without panache. I truly offer a better way.

  27. SoftStarLight May 18, 2020 at 1:42 pm #

    So now that we already know that they are planning a second wave Gavin Newsom has now mentioned a third wave. I suppose the waves are associated with a phased approach to the complete takeover. I assume the second wave will be intentionally more deadly so as to scare people into giving up more freedoms and pushing them to accept another and longer lockdown. By any third wave it would appear that they would have total control given the way things are going now. But why the phased approach? It seems like they realize the ease with which they were able to pull this off so why wait? Is it possible that they simply enjoy the pain and suffering and want to extend it as much as possible. Oh well. It’s just an idea. I’m sure I can think a bunch more up today lol. 😉

    • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 1:57 pm #

      If it follows the Spanish Flu graph the second wave is the strongest and the third is stronger than the first.

      I don’t know who you think ‘they’ are. Lizard People? It is true that the Sumerian Lizard People are fully bred into our elite class and will be transforming the planet into a place more in line with their cold blooded needs soon enough. But Covid-19 interferes with their plans and the seed ships from their home planet are going to have to wait a bit longer for Earth to warm up now. The Earth renaming ceremony is postponed. This means that the Sumerian ‘they’ is not behind this; not ‘them’ so what ‘they’ do you mean?

      • SoftStarLight May 18, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

        The flesh and blood they who want to be Sumerian Lizard People. And believe themselves to be so at this point. If they can just download their consciousnesses into the machines they can rule forever. In their minds at least and all. I have to admit that is an interesting idea that the Lizard People are heating up the Earth to suit their purposes. I hadn’t thought about it like that but it does make sense. I guess it’s a good thing the Sun is essentially asleep for now.

        • Laundromat Blues May 18, 2020 at 6:11 pm #

          It was a serpent in the Garden of Eden.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

        Oh so there is no Global Elite? Or rather you don’t like to talk about them because it deflects attention from your beloved obsession with American Politics.

        We know who these people are, Kdog, at least for the most part.

        • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 2:32 pm #

          Earth to Janos. Pay attention I am openly talking about the elite. After the Bosphorus was breached and the great estates were flooded. ‘They’ knew they had to breed into the common class for their own self-preservation. Hence they walk among us.

          Being ten feet tall made no friends. George Bush for instance was a very successful spawn of their intentional cross-breeding program. He seemed almost human. Trump, not so much. And Obama, not so much at all. You could almost see the tongue flicks with him. You would have, had they been any slower.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

            Obama is just their human front man. Wake up, “man”.

          • SoftStarLight May 18, 2020 at 3:07 pm #

            Yes, demons are real and can inhabit people who then do their bidding. One doesn’t have to necessarily have the Nephilim blood in them.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 3:15 pm #

            And what is a demon but a reptilian alien who has gotten caught in Earth’s lower dimensions? Thus do they dine poorly at the McDonald’s of the Cosmos, with humans as the whoppers and McChicken nuggets.

          • benr May 20, 2020 at 10:32 am #

            @janos

            The whopper is Burger King not McDonalds who serves up 1/4 pounders and “Big Macs” which compared to the 80’s is a joke.
            Neither being a good burger I might add.
            In N Out smoked em both or even Wendy’s.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 2:21 pm #

      That’s the problem with always being on Defense. The Enemy can meticulously exercise their plans, fine tuning them better and better each time. If Trump attacked, it could change everything. But alas, he won’t. I think he’s official resistance, part of the Plan…

      • SoftStarLight May 18, 2020 at 3:13 pm #

        That could be very true that Trump is a part of the resistance. It makes no sense to me that he would use the military for distributing the vaccine and begin funding WHO again. And continue letting foreign workers in when 30 million people are unemployed.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 3:19 pm #

          I think he reversed himself again yesterday about WHO. Hadn’t heard about the foreign workers – figures though.

      • sophia May 18, 2020 at 3:23 pm #

        Been thinking about that. Seems to be biding his time. If he went on the attack, would it backfire? I’m ready to find out!

        He is openly naming Obama in spygate.
        Unfortunately, Obama legalized propaganda. I’d like to see someone go after the fake news. We can talk about the bad deeds of all the various bigwigs, but maybe we could cut off the head of the snake by going after the media.

        They are running out of time. Need to strike soon.

        • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 5:19 pm #

          They are keeping things quiet. Nothing about Durham has leaked. No one even knew about Jensen until last week.

          #Obamagate

          #Treason

          • Laundromat Blues May 18, 2020 at 6:01 pm #

            Trump Care. Like the 3,000,000 voters that cost him the popular vote, it’s all in his mind.

          • benr May 19, 2020 at 9:47 am #

            Oh you must mean the 5 million and counting fake voter registrations and voter fraud?
            Yea that meme has been debunked and soundly.

  28. K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 2:15 pm #

    Yessir, if you say so. Were his fingers crossed? You couldn’t tell because the camera had him framed in a head-shot. Personally, I think the Fed Chairman was blowing smoke up the nation’s wazoo.

    If he wasn’t blowing smoke he would not have the job. The smoke is so far up our wazoo it is getting in our eyes.

  29. Majella May 18, 2020 at 2:15 pm #

    With an EFT-POS card, you only need a single pocket!

  30. Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 2:25 pm #

    Papillon watched the waves at Devil’s island. The seventh wave was always the big one. That’s when they would jump in on their inflated sacks stiched together and let it take them out.

    They reached the mainland but the shore was all quicksand. They had to wait until the high tide took them inland. His friend couldn’t take the sun and tried to get off the beach. The sand took him!

    • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 2:44 pm #

      It was the seventh wave but Papillon made it in the movie. Louis Dega chose to stay behind and tend his garden. Why do you do this? If you want your own story change the names. Tarantino pisses me off for the same reason.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 2:49 pm #

        I read the book – again and again and again as a boy. Did you even read it once? Damn you, Dog!

        I said he made it but his friend didn’t – in the book at least. Papi was a man just like our own Papi, Papidopolous.

  31. BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

    Schmidt’s Big Mouth bottles made to look like little beer barrels. No twist off, you need a bottle opener for these puppies.

    12 oz. of golden Schmidt’s beer, under $4 for a case (in the early 70s) Brewed in Minneapolis?

    Big mouth bottles made for quaffing, just inhaling those suds in one sudden gulp. Those were the days.

    Serve ice cold.

    Brh

  32. Rodster May 18, 2020 at 2:27 pm #

    “Covid-19 seems rather a punk-ass illness compared to the Black Death.”

    I’m glad Jim called out the hysteria of Covid 19. On other forums I too have made the comparison that many especially the MSM and Politicians are treating Covid 19 as if was the Black Plague II.

    It’s not and there was NO need to blow up the economy unless some entities decided Covid 19 was a good excuse as any to do it and blame it on the virus.

    • tucsonspur May 18, 2020 at 2:52 pm #

      Punk ass ’till it gets ya.

      • Rodster May 18, 2020 at 6:15 pm #

        Let me pass on to you one of life’s little nuggets. Are you ready?

        If it’s not Covid 19, it’s the Common Flu, if not it’s some form of Cancer, if that doesn’t do it maybe some other disease will do the trick, if that doesn’t get you maybe an organ failure. If that missed you too maybe you’ll get hit by a car or truck.

        If somehow you managed to make it out alive, old age and death awaits. You see the Grim Reaper is always 2 steps behind you and everyone else.

        I don’t give two shits about the Coronavirus and I don’t live in fear which is what the MSM and Politicians want you to do. It’s been overhyped beyond belief.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 6:19 pm #

          Yes, “the people” cower in fear. Sheep!

        • tucsonspur May 18, 2020 at 6:36 pm #

          Thanks for reminding me that I’m mortal. I was starting to wonder.

          I know. Life’s a bitch, then you die. How wise. Go early if you want.

          I also know that coyote waits.

          Coyote always waits. I try to avoid him. It’s called the survival instinct.

        • Rulo Deschamps May 18, 2020 at 7:54 pm #

          Hear, hear! I’ll second that.

  33. tucsonspur May 18, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

    Trump wants higher oil prices (understandable) and negative interest rates. How do the suckers, otherwise known as savers, feel about that?

    What’s the mindset of the public regarding this repeated trillion dollar money printing, going on for more than a decade now, negative rates, and endless bailouts?

    Is the Fed really ‘controlling’ the supply and the price of money any longer? Is Powell now more concerned with public perception and behavioral psychology?

    Remember Bernanke? “The impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime markets seems likely to be contained.”

  34. sophia May 18, 2020 at 2:31 pm #

    Maybe China didn’t force nursing homes to accept people sick with covid, as the US and UK did, deliberately maximizing the kill.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 2:46 pm #

      They shut down one province. What was the death rate in the rest of China? Did they succeed in containing it more or less in Wuhan or whatever the name of the province is?

      In which case, their negligence in relation to the world is all the more damning.

      • sophia May 18, 2020 at 4:42 pm #

        Yes, it was mostly contained in that province. But I am having a hard time knowing how such a thing was possible. With the lockdown, we don’t have all that much travel anywhere. The death rate elsewhere in China was low, and they have almost no new cases now.

        I’m not on board the blame China train because I think that there are money trails from the US to the Wuhan lab. But it is interesting that from a Chinese point of view, they came out on top. Their economy was not destroyed, and the west has happily suicided theirs. But is China to blame or that? It seems more like a pact or something. “They” are definitely doing all they can to perform a scorched earth upon the west.

        • Laundromat Blues May 18, 2020 at 6:08 pm #

          Oh please. Scorched earth? Really. Maybe pouring gasoline on ourselves and light a match. America, the richest, most powerful nation on earth and 1 out of every 3 Covid 19 deaths is American. That, THAT is a disgrace.

        • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 7:46 am #

          “But it is interesting that from a Chinese point of view, they came out on top. ”

          I would take ANY statistics emanating from Beijing with an almighty pinch of monosodium glutamate. But still…

          They all have to use an app that tells them in red or green whether they’re allowed to go out the house. So there’s that. And you don’t want that (nor would I). And look at what South Korea is able to do, in terms of invading your privacy to help keep the thing under control and avoid a lockdown.

          Some people don’t want any kind of lockdown, don’t want contact tracing, don’t want masks, don’t want a vaccine, don’t want social distancing – yet bizarrely pretend they care about people in care homes, as if you could let it rip and at the same time have a cohort of poorly paid, peripatetic care workers, taking public transport to work, and not infecting their charges.

          Adults find compromises. Children (and adults with agendas) just bleat.

  35. Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 2:45 pm #

    https://www.amren.com/news/2020/05/woman-whose-brother-and-father-have-been-charged-with-murder-of-ahmaud-arbery-insists-they-are-not-racist-because-they-loved-her-non-white-boyfriends/

    Oh brother. The plot thins. In Ancient Greece, a lawyer got his client off (accused of killing her husband) by tearing off her “blouse” and exclaiming, Would you destroy such beauty? Will the lawyer this time have daughter dearest have sex with her Black of the month in court to prove that any man associated with Her cannot be a bad racist?

    • cbeard May 19, 2020 at 5:04 pm #

      She didn’t help their case with her admission.

  36. tucsonspur May 18, 2020 at 3:08 pm #

    Better believe it. It’s just us.

    ‘However, Barr did not completely reject the White House and Trump campaign’s current “Obamagate” obsession — he simply cautioned that those expecting prosecutions of high-level political figures are likely to be disappointed. “Not every abuse of power, no matter how outrageous, is necessarily a federal crime,” he said.’

    ‘Wray stood by silently during Barr’s comments. The FBI chief has contended he moved quickly to institute reforms after learning of problems with the bureau’s surveillance programs. He has also said that most of the senior FBI leaders involved in the Russia probe have either left the agency or were fired.’

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/barr-throws-cold-water-trumps-174024902.html

  37. Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 3:09 pm #

    Barr’s investigation is just going to scratch the surface. No Obama or Biden stuff. Tomorrow we shall be a grave man…..

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/g-barr-says-does-not-172546513.html

    • SoftStarLight May 18, 2020 at 3:25 pm #

      If Trump doesn’t fire Barr then I don’t know how I’m not going to start believing that he is part of it too.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

        You are too good for this world. That’s why you’re going to have to live under a bridge with me.

      • sophia May 18, 2020 at 4:53 pm #

        I thought Barr was good. And I thought these crimes were serious.

        • Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 5:25 pm #

          Government cannot continue without prosecutions, including folks at the top. Barr has made this clear in the past.

          Barack is the head of the snake. The President has openly spoken of treason, and the few remaining sharp minds in progland know what’s up, too.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB26jj0jrjc

          • Laundromat Blues May 18, 2020 at 5:59 pm #

            What serious, who serious. Trump serious. Trump makes terrible decisions. The worst. If he goes after Obama, guess what happens when he leaves office. He lets his little head tell his big head what to do, and in this case his little head is much littler than the prior occupant of the Oval Office.

          • Majella May 18, 2020 at 8:12 pm #

            “Government cannot continue without prosecutions, including folks at the top. Barr has made this clear in the past.”

            Fizz turns to fizzle:

            Government cannot continue without prosecutions, including folks at the top. Barr has made this clear in the past.

          • Majella May 18, 2020 at 8:13 pm #

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YubTYrurKZA

          • HapMan May 18, 2020 at 11:25 pm #

            “Government cannot continue without prosecutions…”

            “Barack is the head of the snake…”

            Stop. Just stop already.

          • sophia May 18, 2020 at 11:36 pm #

            Nightowl,

            Obama might be the head of the spygate snake, but he’s a relative newcomer. Although I guess he goes way back what with his mother having worked for the CIA and all. No, I suspect he is not the real head.

          • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 9:23 am #

            True, Sophia. It could go higher, but the evidence is what it is right now.

            #Obamagate
            #Treason

          • benr May 19, 2020 at 9:49 am #

            @hapman

            Follow your own advice.

            #obamadeservesatrial
            #obamaforjail2021

          • HapMan May 19, 2020 at 10:32 am #

            Benr and friends,

            Post the crime. Post the evidence.

            Until then, spare us the hashtaggery.

            Meanwhile, what is Trump doing to quell the pandemic today? Let’s see – cutting off the World Health Organization, and popping malaria pills.

            Yup, that sounds about right.

          • benr May 19, 2020 at 1:32 pm #

            @hapman

            List of crimes coming soon to an a lot rigfht news source of your choice but the in the tank leftwing media will ignore it as long as they can.
            Since this is all you pay attention to of course you plead ignorance.

            Yet we have a sitting President impeached on a fake dossier for a fake crime and a bullshit investigation and that was just fine with you?

            Your type of insanity is what is wrong with this country.

          • HapMan May 19, 2020 at 2:14 pm #

            “List of crimes coming soon…”

            Except it isn’t. Barr said so yesterday.

            But let’s still pay no attention to the rolling pandemic disaster and the mess in the Oval Office, because Obamagate.

            Benr you seem like you state your views in good faith. Unlike some of the internet trolls hanging around here. But Trump is a world class con artist, and you’re letting yourself get conned.

      • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 5:39 pm #

        What’s Biden relying on? Hoping by Nov he’s not being spoon fed by his attendant, and the attendant doesn’t forget about the diaper change.

  38. Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 3:37 pm #

    Romeo
    Draw, Benvolio, beat down their weapons.
    Gentlemen, for shame, forbear this outrage!
    Tybalt, Mercutio, the prince expressly hath
    Forbidden bandying in Verona streets.
    Hold, Tybalt! Good Mercutio!
    [Tybalt under Romeo’s arm stabs Mercutio, and flies with his followers]
    Mercutio
    I am hurt.
    A plague o’ both your houses! I am sped.
    Is he gone, and hath nothing?
    Benvolio
    What, art thou hurt?
    Mercutio
    Ay, ay, a scratch, a scratch; marry, ’tis enough.
    Where is my page? Go, villain, fetch a surgeon.
    [Exit Page]
    Romeo
    Courage, man; the hurt cannot be much.
    Mercutio
    No, ’tis not so deep as a well, nor so wide as a church
    door; but ’tis enough,’twill serve. Ask for me tomorrow,
    and you shall find me a grave man. I am peppered,

    I warrant, for this world. A plague o’ both your houses!
    ‘Zounds, a dog, a rat, a mouse, a cat, to scratch a man

    to death. A braggart, a rogue, a villain, that fights by
    the book of arithmetic! Why the devil came you between
    us? I was hurt under your arm.
    Romeo
    I thought all for the best.

    JS: I’m seeing a strong West Side Story influence here, with Mercutio as Riff and Romeo as Tony. I identify mostly with Tybalt, Prince of Cats.

    Anybodys will the real beauty in West Side Story – not Maria or Anita or Velma or any of the other Jet or Shark molls. I admit the Puerto Rican group dancing was better, but nothing could beat the joyous athleticism of Riff. As for as individual dancers, I though Ice was the most graceful of them all.

    There are many fine Black Shakespearean actors.

    • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 6:31 am #

      “JS: I’m seeing a strong West Side Story influence here”

      Did you really say that?

      You do know that West Side Story was inspired by Romeo and Juliet? Tell me you do and you were suddenly afflicted with some European-type irony.

      Don’t know whether to laugh or cry. So I’ll just take the dog for a walk.

      • Q. Shtik May 19, 2020 at 2:13 pm #

        Don’t know whether to laugh or cry. So I’ll just take the dog for a walk. – GreenAlba

        ============

        Reminds me of the old line “He didn’t know whether to shit or go blind so he closed one eye and farted.”

        • GreenAlba May 20, 2020 at 2:12 pm #

          I certainly haven’t heard that one before. 🙂

  39. wm5135 May 18, 2020 at 3:55 pm #

    Invictus

    Out of the night that covers me,
    Black as the pit from pole to pole,
    I thank whatever gods may be
    For my unconquerable soul.

    In the fell clutch of circumstance
    I have not winced nor cried aloud.
    Under the bludgeonings of chance
    My head is bloody, but unbowed.

    Beyond this place of wrath and tears
    Looms but the Horror of the shade,
    And yet the menace of the years
    Finds and shall find me unafraid.

    It matters not how strait the gate,
    How charged with punishments the scroll,
    I am the master of my fate,
    I am the captain of my soul. William Ernest Henley-1875

  40. Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 4:23 pm #

    He also went to meet his Black Mistress some say.

    from the Wiki, Dark Lady

    Speculation about the Dark Lady
    The question of who the Dark Lady is an unsolved, controversial issue because of the insufficiency of background detail. Some believe that she might be of Mediterranean descent with dark hair and dark eyes of Greece, Spain, Italy and Southern France. Other scholars have suggested, given Shakespeare’s description of her dark, dun-colored skin and black wiry hair, that the Dark Lady might have been a woman of African descent.

    Emilia Lanier
    In 1973 A. L. Rowse claimed to have solved the identity of the Dark Lady in his book Shakespeare’s Sonnets—the Problem Solved, based upon his study of astrologer Simon Forman’s journal entries describing his meetings with Emilia Lanier.[3][4] It was later shown that Rowse had based his identification on a misreading of Forman’s text: Forman had described Lanier as “brave in youth”, not “brown in youth”, but Rowse, while later correcting his misreading, continued to assert his contention.[5][6] In the diaries, Emilia is described as the mistress of Lord Hunsdon, the Queen’s Lord Chamberlain. She seemed to have similar qualities to ones of the Dark Lady. For example, Emilia was so attractive to men that during the years of being Hunsdon’s mistress, she may have been viewed as a prostitute. In addition, she might have been a musician because it was found by further research that she was a member of the Bassano family which was famous for providing the music to entertain the Courts of Elizabeth I and James I. They were also Italians and Emilia may have been of Mediterranean descent.[2]

    However there are academics, such as David Bevington of the University of Chicago, who dismiss the theory that Lanier was the Dark Lady not only due to the lack of any direct proof but also because the claimed association with Shakespeare tends to overshadow her own literary achievements: she published her celebrated collection of poems Salve Deus Rex Judæorum in 1611.[7][8]

    Wow Bill, nothing like that “dark, wiry hair.” Janos here again, folks. “Brave in youth or Brown in youth” – on that question our Civilization hangs in the balance.

  41. Nightowl May 18, 2020 at 5:27 pm #

    A wise choice if on the front line. My old employer The National Academies also recommended it in a mass mailing they sent to current employees and Alumni.

    Ask David if he is taking it.

    • Majella May 22, 2020 at 8:48 am #

      Dr. Ronny would recommend it, but I think he’s out of a job – or at least his last job.

      Who’s the WH Doctor, HigIQwl?.

  42. Laundromat Blues May 18, 2020 at 5:51 pm #

    The two party system is the flaw. That is why the Republicans should have banned Trump and he would have formed his own party. Then we would have a more balanced 3 party system. Trump was polling at 42 or 43 % in the Republican primiaries. That means nearly 60% would have gone for Bush or Kasich. The key demographic was the hate both candidates which broke for Trump by nearly 20%. This time around they’re breaking the other way. By the time the election rolls around, Trump will lose in a landslide. They’ll be a second wave, and it will decimate the population. My beloved Skyline Chili is opening its doors this Friday, 1/3 capacity.

    • BackRowHeckler May 18, 2020 at 6:55 pm #

      Dude we need you here to rearrange our political system, put us on the right path.

    • tucsonspur May 18, 2020 at 7:18 pm #

      If you had a homogeneous distribution of say three, or even four parties throughout the population, the likelihood of gerrymandering would fade. Ditto two parties, I guess. A need for more cooperation would result, but good luck with that.

      Two party system is entrenched here, and so is the attraction of ‘winner take all.’ Simpler and more direct, if less democratic. As long as the people believe they have a ‘choice’.

      • JohnAZ May 19, 2020 at 1:08 am #

        George Washington said in his farewell speech to not allow party politics to occur in the US. He felt that allegiance to party would subvert the allegiance to country. His, and most of the FF wanted a government comprised of individual public servants, not a bunch of party hacks. Here we are fulfilling his fear.

  43. Laundromat Blues May 18, 2020 at 5:54 pm #

    Of course, he isn’t. Only in his mind. He would have to admit he was wrong or he could lie and say he’s taking it. Guess which one Trump chooses. Always.

    • Majella May 18, 2020 at 7:29 pm #

      “Moving Lips” is the giveaway…

  44. malthuss May 18, 2020 at 6:43 pm #

    PSYCHOLOGY TODAY

    Saul Levine M.D., is a professor emeritus at the University of California at San Diego.

    This type of denial is akin to Stephen Colbert’s “truthiness” in that these deniers adamantly refuse to accept verified scientific facts because they get in the way of their own rigid ideas.
    Here are just a few examples of their beliefs:
    1. There is no such thing as manmade global warming.
    2. There is nothing that we can do to improve our climate.
    3. Most immigrants are a drain on social services, schools, hospitals, and other public resources.
    4. Many immigrants are criminals, rapists, dealers or terrorists.
    5. The availability of guns has nothing to do with the uniquely American epidemic of shootings.
    6. Gun death rates have not dropped in countries with gun control legislation.
    7. Vaccines are dangerous, cause autism and other disorders.
    8. Muslims are out to destroy us and our way of life.
    9. Latinos are lazy, Jews are greedy, African-Americans are violent, etc.
    10. Marriage is sacrosanct only between a man and a woman.
    11. Planned Parenthood sells fetal parts.
    12. LGBT people are either “sick” or “bad.”
    13. The USA is the first/greatest in the world in health, education, nutrition, generosity, cleanliness, happiness, and safety. (It is indeed first in weaponry, shootings, military spending, prisoners, drug trade, and other indices of “greatness.”)
    In psychiatry, the word “delusion” means a firm belief in some idea which is known to be false, and it can be a symptom of paranoia or psychosis.

    [Guess that I am in denial]

    • Majella May 18, 2020 at 7:06 pm #

      Guessing, “10”.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 8:52 pm #

      Latinos are not lazy, just sloppy. Other than that…..

      Maj got a perfect score no doubt.

      • Majella May 18, 2020 at 9:23 pm #

        “Latinos”? Relevance?

        • Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 9:39 pm #

          It mentions Latinos. Did you even read his list, you lazy Lucy?

        • Majella May 19, 2020 at 1:00 am #

          Oh. No, I did miss it.

          • benr May 19, 2020 at 9:51 am #

            omg hahahahaha

          • Majella May 19, 2020 at 8:05 pm #

            Yeah, funny as all get out. I notice when YOU are left dangling, you just carry on, responseless. Ignore it, I guess, and do you blushing in private. Good move, benr! So when I admit an error, YOU (of all people) LOL it up?

    • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 10:01 am #

      It is incredibly ironic that the guy who introduced “truthiness” into the modern lexicon (ok, likely an underpaid writer) is now the poster boy for “truthiness.”

      I’ve also noticedhe looks genuinely crazy lately in public appearances. He just has this look like he is about to have a nervous breakdown.

      I wonder how many skeletons are in Steve’s closet.

      • Majella May 19, 2020 at 8:06 pm #

        Trying to kick off another troll-based meme, HigIQwl?

        “But I was only asking the question!”

  45. stelmosfire May 18, 2020 at 6:46 pm #

    I’me be a talking dog. i get 600 bucks a week. Yippee. Money for nuthin and shits for free. i think I be buying sum cool stuff.Guns ans stuff.maybe ammo Wow this is cool.

  46. Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 7:03 pm #

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2020/05/14/stacey-abrams-political-power/?arc404=true

    Bizarre. This obese Black woman who hates White people is made out to be a run away supermodel. Will Joe resist touching her? How can he? How can anyone!

    • tucsonspur May 18, 2020 at 7:46 pm #

      Breaking news! A runway has collapsed in Atlanta, Georgia, fatally crushing six people. At first it was thought to be only three, until they turned over the groggy and shaken Stacy Abrams.

  47. Pucker May 18, 2020 at 7:31 pm #

    The female interviewer still seems to think that Cosby was convicted for drugging and raping women. That’s not what Cosby was charged with and convicted for. Cosby was convicted under a very bad new Pennsylvania law passed as a result of the #MeToo Movement that vitiates consent if the bloke had sex with a woman after she’s had a beer, Weed, Benadryl (in Cosby’s case), a glass of wine, or any other type of drug. Half of all the blokes in Pennsylvania could be convicted under that Statute. Cosby will die in prison for giving a crazy white woman a Benadryl and then fingering her pussy.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_YTzO9Kh2kY

    • tucsonspur May 18, 2020 at 8:02 pm #

      As long as they nailed the pervert, I’m happy. Some want him freed so they can whack his ass. How you say, put a cap in it?

      • Pucker May 18, 2020 at 8:08 pm #

        Many black people hate Dr. Cosby because he exhorted young black males to pull up their trousers and to speak proper English. That’s why they pulled Dr. Cosby down….

        • Majella May 18, 2020 at 8:36 pm #

          “Dr. Cosby”? Don’t you mean “Dr. Huxtable”?

          • JohnAZ May 19, 2020 at 1:26 am #

            Dr. Cosby was a PhD in education, I believe.

          • Majella May 19, 2020 at 8:27 pm #

            Ah, right. Thanks, JohnAZ.

            1977: Earned a PhD in Education from UMass Amherst. His dissertation used his character Fat Albert.

        • benr May 19, 2020 at 9:53 am #

          I loved that speech.

  48. akmofo May 18, 2020 at 8:08 pm #

    Remember This Starving Polar Bear?
    https://youtu.be/_gkhjA75pp8

    Unfortunately our commie friends are not the most trustworthy of people. Ideology always comes first before truth.

    • SpeedyBB May 21, 2020 at 10:32 am #

      Well they certain are not deficient in the Irony Department:

      “Pravda” means “Truth”.

  49. Pucker May 18, 2020 at 8:20 pm #

    I wonder if there will be an American Che Guevara who will emerge in the US to become the leader of the Gringo Working Class?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xELHGR_ur0Q

  50. Majella May 18, 2020 at 8:21 pm #

    Whadda ya mean, you’re investigating my team of hack cronies??? You’re fired!”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFbz9jtH-P4

  51. Pucker May 18, 2020 at 8:44 pm #

    Should we thank the politicians for their service like we thank American soldiers?

  52. Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 8:55 pm #

    Now that Trump declared he drinks out of aquariums, all of Middle America is doing it. The Emergency Rooms are already full. How do we flatten this curve?

  53. Pucker May 18, 2020 at 8:59 pm #

    The CBS News blokes refer to Che Guevara as an economist. I thought that Che was a physician? What kind of a medical doctor smokes cigars?

    I wonder if there will be an American Che Guevara who will emerge in the US to become the leader of the Gringo Working Class?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xELHGR_ur0Q

    • tucsonspur May 18, 2020 at 9:57 pm #

      “A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.”
      Che probably liked women, like Bill Clinton. But ol’ Bill sure liked his cigars too.

  54. Janos Skorenzy May 18, 2020 at 9:43 pm #

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-world-food-programme-warns-at-least-30-million-people-could-die-of/

    This is twenty million ahead of schedule. Who am I kidding? I think they are right about the world being over-populated. What, are we supposed to die so that the 3rd World can live? No, they go under not us. Keep those border closed! Whites aren’t the problem – we’ve already been sterilized by Liberalism, Careerism, and Feminism. We’re barely at replacement here in the US and below in most of White Europe.

  55. thwack May 18, 2020 at 9:55 pm #

    “Covid-19 seems rather a punk-ass illness compared to the Black Death.” — JHK

    **************
    “Covid-19 seems rather a punk-ass BITCH MADE illness compared to the Black Death.”

    Free upgrade for for ya Jim

    • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 11:06 pm #

      Not as deep as a well, or as wide as a church door, but it’s enough. It’ll do the job.

      • thwack May 18, 2020 at 11:24 pm #

        You think you are qualified to critique my comments?

        Get back in the closet fag.

    • elysianfield May 18, 2020 at 11:36 pm #

      “Free upgrade for for ya Jim

      …Some might consider that statement…”uppity”….

      Just sayin’

  56. Majella May 18, 2020 at 11:06 pm #

    …and these guys are awesome representations of the Base…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFc7wiI8X2E

    • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 11:15 pm #

      It is a triangle. at one point on the triangle we have Trump. On another point of the triangle we have the perennial malcontents and idiots. They are always with us. Rebels who need no cause. The final point provides the balance to our centroid of despair. A nation that lost touch with its citizens. This toxic trio is the geometry of our doom.

      • K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 11:40 pm #

        This is better,

        It is a triangle. At one point on the triangle we have Trump. On another point of the triangle we have our perennial malcontents and idiots. They are always with us. Rebels who need no cause. People who spend an inordinate amount on hair products even when they have no hair. The final point provides the balance to our centroid of despair. A nation that lost touch with its citizens. This toxic trio is the geometry of our doom.

        • tucsonspur May 19, 2020 at 2:40 am #

          But you can have many triangles. For example, one could replace the Trump vertex with Obama or Hillary, keeping the other two vertices essentially the same.

          How about one with 15 million illegals and counting, with open borders at one vertex, sanctuary and crime ridden cities at another, and stifling political correctness and attacks on so called white privilege and ‘whiteness’ in general at the third.

          And remember, “There is no royal road to geometry.” Euclid

          TS: Nor is there only one.

          • K-Dog May 19, 2020 at 9:52 am #

            It has to make sense. You can’t just point the triangle anyway you wish. I admit I was lazy and did not fully explain.

            Idiots and Malcontents are always with us but they are ignored in good times. When government betrays the people that point of the triangle supports the point where the crazies stand. Without dysfunction crazies are ignored.

            The crazies in turn support the authority figure Trump who pretends to love the crazies. Crazy people can’t think for themselves and they panic without a leader. Crazies are used but they in general having the mental activity of a willow tree whipping in the wind, don’t know they are used.

            The Trump sociopath pretending to be a real person on his point in turn enables the betrayal of the American people which in turn supports the American crazies which support him.

            It all has to work out. Hillary would not be supported by crazies. Milk toast church puppies was more descriptive of her supporters. Hillary could not be dropped onto the same triangle as Trump. She needs here own points on her own triangle.

            Not having a point, (my turn is not a point) she lost.

            Given that we are in the United States of Amnesia we should forget about Hillary altogether.

            It is said that Archimedes invented the screw but on reflection his mother must have know about it.

          • Q. Shtik May 19, 2020 at 1:55 pm #

            Crazy people can’t think for themselves – K-Dog

            ==========

            Is it your point, then, that democracy is a flawed system and, accordingly, that you agree with Janos?

  57. K-Dog May 18, 2020 at 11:57 pm #

    The dangerous case of Donald Trump.

    https://youtu.be/6nhoGIvOKJU

    Oct 5, 2017 a 10 minute video. Documents real mental health problems in the psyche of the Orange scourge.

    He is emotionally driven, not intellectually driven. You don’t want to use that word with regard to Trump. I absolutely believe that any decision Trump makes is going to be primarily made by the intensity of the emotion he feels about it.

    John O. Brennan: President Donald Trump Is ‘Dangerous To Our Nation’

    https://youtu.be/81kawAPCJrM

    Aug 14, 2018 a 8 minute video. Documents outrageous clown like behavior.

    Fueling hatred and animosity among Americans.

    ….

    And this is before the mofo started killing people.

    K-Dog For President.

  58. malthuss May 19, 2020 at 12:24 am #

    Is this true?

    In 2014, Kenya’s Catholic Doctors Association accused the WHO of chemically sterilizing millions of unwilling Kenyan women with a phony “tetanus” vaccine campaign. Independent labs found the sterility formula in every vaccine tested.

    After denying the charges, WHO finally admitted it had been developing the sterility vaccines for over a decade. Similar accusations came from Tanzania, Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines.

    • SoftStarLight May 19, 2020 at 2:25 am #

      The first paragraph is true and most of the second one too. Though I’m not sure that WHO admitted anything. From what I read it seemed like they were trying to say that the hormone somehow made it into the vaccines by accident, faulty manufacuring, etc. RFK Jr posted about this on Instagram. He has an anti-Bill Gates operation there.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 2:28 am #

      Anglin:

      Sweden’s “No Lockdown” Strategy Worked, Says Heroic Epidemiologist Behind It

      Anders Tegnell, the hero who saved Sweden from the lockdown madness, is so beloved by the people that men are getting his face tattooed on their skin.

      The man who went against what the rest of the world is doing is now defending his strategy and announcing that it has worked.

      RT:

      Sweden, which chose a famously hands-off opt-in way to fight the coronavirus epidemic, may have over four times the deaths per capita compared to its Nordic neighbors, but the approach ultimately worked, the man behind it insists.

      While most nations in the world relied on strict lockdown procedures to slow the spread of Covid-19, Sweden put only a few obligatory restrictions in place. That won high approval ratings for the government, but also resulted in a significantly higher death toll than in other Nordic countries, with elder-care homes affected particularly badly.

      Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s chief epidemiologist, whose role in creating the ‘Swedish model’ elevated him to a celebrity in the country and spiked interest internationally, insists his approach was right.

      “So far, I think, even taking into account the excess deaths, it has worked,” the scientist told Italy’s ANSA news agency on Sunday. Closing down Sweden “would not have made that much of a difference, including in nursing-home infections.”

      “Each death is an immense tragedy – it is terrible to see so many people die. But there are many other aspects to consider when evaluating a unique approach – for example, the damage that is caused socially in the long term,” he added.

      Thinking about what the long-term effects of doing the whole lockdown thing may be before putting it in place sounds like the common sense thing to do, but most countries went straight into full lockdown mode and forced everyone to live like prisoners in their own homes in an attempt to prevent very old people from dying.

      Western governments claim to have not thought of and not cared about the fallout from these decisions, saying the only thing that mattered to them was saving the elderly. We already knew, from Chinese and Italian data, that most deaths were very old people who were already quite sick, yet governments chose to ignore the data and proceeded to force people into some weird “house arrest with supermarket visits” thing.

      This obsessive focus on the short-term, on counting daily deaths, and having weekly death tolls, is preventing many from seeing that anyone who can die of coronavirus is going to die from coronavirus or something else (like the flu of previous years) anyway. What this means is that the currently lower death toll of Sweden’s Nordic neighbors is going to increase once people start moving around normally.

      Just like everywhere that did the lockdown, hospitals in Sweden were never overwhelmed, and everyone who needed treatment got treatment.

      (We should however mention that because hospitals were not closed to all non-corona, non-emergency patients, the staffs of hospitals in Sweden did not have time to record choreographed TikTok videos, which some will no doubt look at as a failure of the Swedish system.)

      Sweden did not produce an army of TikTok nurses, leaving many to believe they failed their nation.
      When hospitals are not overwhelmed, and everyone gets treatment, what determines if people die from coronavirus or not are things such as age and underlying health conditions. There’s nothing magical about spending weeks or months locked inside your house that’s going to protect you from the virus because eventually, once you leave your home, you’ll be exposed to the virus.

      But it seems that governments outside Sweden don’t want people to know that. For some reason, they keep pushing the Doom Virus hysteria, and they keep talking about everyone needing to stay home until they can vaccinate the entire planet. One has to ask though, what happens after that? Even if they vaccinated people against coronavirus, new viruses could continue to appear out of nowhere, just like coronavirus, and they’d have already set the precedent that viruses are enough reason to take away everyone’s rights.

      JS: To repeat for Kdog, Alba, and Maj – OF COURSE there’s going to be a spike as we open up. As Anglin says, everyone who can get it is going to get it. So the bad numbers of Sweden compared to her neighbors will even out quite a bit. The difference is he saved their economy and their dignity – that’s why men are getting his face tatooed on their arms. They will come out Way Ahead in the end – at least in the minds of the people who count.

      Get a look at him – he even seems like a normal guy which is very rare now in the white collar professions. Seriously, if he has this kind of clarity, resilience against criticism, and will power, he should run for President and save Sweden from Feminism and Islam.

      Anders, Anglin, Elon, Janos, Akmo, and Thwack: All Apes together, strong.

      • Majella May 19, 2020 at 5:45 am #

        Do you have Mr. Musk’s permission for inclusion in the Nut Job Squad?

      • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 7:14 am #

        “To repeat for Kdog, Alba, and Maj – OF COURSE there’s going to be a spike as we open up. ”

        Why are you telling me this as if I didn’t know it was highly likely?
        Not absolutely predictable because nothing is in this context, but highly likely?

        I am quite agnostic on the lockdown – or rather the various lockdowns. I said a couple of blogs ago that I was sympathetic to Dr Giesecke’s position, but of course you won’t have read that, or you’ll have read it with your blinkers on.

        I also mentioned that Sweden never remained entirely ‘open’. Universities and upper schools closed, and many parents with younger children have kept them off school anyway. And, at the point when I made my point, Sweden had suffered a loss in GDP similar to that of the UK. They have the same problems as anywhere else, because they’re having to space out tables in restaurants and cafés, added to which lots of people are forgoing the pleasure of mixing socially, lockdown or no lockdown.

        The reason I remain agnostic is because I don’t consider ‘one solution for all’ to be necessarily wise. Rio is currently cracking under the strain. Lombardy had to send critically sick patients by helicopter to other regions of Italy, then eventually to Germany, because they were acutely over capacity.

        I’m aware not all countries have identical healthcare systems, and what might work in a system that has lots of extra capacity in normal times might not work in one that operates a much tighter ship. And it’s not just about physical beds. The UK, for example, was short of 40,000 nurses before this even started (Brexit naturally didn’t help), so there was no spare capacity.

        If you move a theatre nurse to a critical care unit, you haven’t acquired an extra nurse (I know maths isn’t your strong point) – you’ve just made it harder to do surgical operations, which is also a major risk if you’re in a Covid-rich hospital in the first place.

        • malthuss May 19, 2020 at 11:03 am #

          Some note, Sweden 4000 dead, Finland 200-500.

          I am note sure what to make of this.
          I found this and consider it thought provoking,

          Their bio lab’s release of this Covid plague may have just been gross negligence, but when they sealed off Wuhan from the rest of Red China but kept the Wuhan international flights flying, that was an intentional act….just as their attempt to gobble up the entire world’s stock of Protective Equipment was intentional.
          They’ve clearly dealt a deadly blow to the US and the World….inflicting sickness, death and near financial ruin around the globe. And, now, they have the gall to threaten us with nukes?
          Joe, who is indebted to Red China because of the more than a Billion Dollars they invested through his son, Hunter! With them making Nuclear threats against us, the last thing we need is Kow Tow Joe.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

          Yet kids do better than anyone with this. Oh well, a few cracks in an otherwise stellar program.

          Yes, different countries have different strengths. Denmark caught it very early and was able to isolate the actual vectors. There was never a chance of us doing that given how we are the capital of the world and thus Open for all business, fair and foul.

          Our medical system here was never overwhelmed – except by an unrelenting media campaign of hype. You didn’t get this a few weeks ago at least when you said the empty Field Hospital in Seattle was dismantled to go elsewhere. It didn’t go anywhere. It and others like it were simply not needed. And the exhausted nurses weeping on camera could have shared their shifts with some of the many nurses who were laid off in the non-Covid hospitals, strictly ignored by the media.

          Now this kind of isolation makes sense in terms of keeping the disease away from other kinds of patients. But the media used his humble fact to create a towering pile of rubbish; to help nourish their narrative of Panic and Disaster; and secondarily, to help create the new Cult of Nurses, prefigured in the opening ritual of 2012 Olympics in London.

          The Hospital Ship, the Comfort, based off of New York, did help but it never reached capacity. And again, many hospitals were laying off nurses there. They could also have made a few more hospitals into “Covid Hospitals”. That would have been another way of dealing with it – but of course that wouldn’t have helped the narrative of Crisis, right?

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 1:03 pm #

            “And the exhausted nurses weeping on camera could have shared their shifts with some of the many nurses who were laid off in the non-Covid hospitals, strictly ignored by the media.”

            I didn’t see any weeping nurses here – apart from the one exasperated early on by the fact that when she came off an exhausting 12-hour shift there was no food in the supermarket because of the selfish hoarders.

            However, sharing the shifts is exactly what happened here. Theatre nurses were rapidly retrained and moved to critical care. You can do that kind of thing when everyone’s working for the same regional NHS Trust. Some NHS hospitals even bought the whole of the capacity of a nearby private hospital for the duration, so that they could carry out surgical operations and other interventions in a safer, hopefully Covid-free environment. Needless to say, that meant giving the ’empty wards’ brigade more to whinge about because they didn’t know the surgical patients were being cared for elsewhere.

      • Iananna May 19, 2020 at 11:22 pm #

        Here’s something for you & Marjella – a superior species laughing at human stupidity.

        https://twitter.com/i/status/1261924934453850112

    • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 2:34 am #

      Italian parliament member, Sara Cunial said in session, Gates should be arrested for crimes against humanity.

      https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/05/16/bomb-dropped-in-italian-parliament/

      Video and transcript of at least part of it is here.

      • Majella May 19, 2020 at 5:46 am #

        News – “Nut Job Says Something Ridiculous in Public” (yawn)

      • K-Dog May 19, 2020 at 9:33 am #

        Thank You, Janos this is a very amusing find.

        The real goal of all of this is total control. Absolute domination of human beings, transformed into guinea pigs and slaves, violating sovereignty and free will.

        That about sums it up. Of course she be crazy but like a football stadium filled with typing chihuahuas; given enough time, great truths will be hammered out.

        Bill Gates out for absolute domination, that is funny. Cracks me up. The next thing you will probably tell us is that Elon Musk wants to go to Mars. That would be funny too.

        • K-Dog May 19, 2020 at 10:02 am #

          chihuahuas. Given enough time, great truths will be hammered out.

          Forgive me David Foster Wallace for I have sinned.

  59. BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 4:23 am #

    And here is more Swedish news

    Outside Stockholm, pretty 17 yo blondy Wilma Anderson ‘lost her head’ over esteemed Iraqi refugee Tishko Ahmed Shabazz. No, literally, she lost her head, as he decapitated her and wrapped her head in aluminum foil.

    Its comical reading Swedish news reports on this case, twisting themselves up like pretzels, describing Shabazz as a young man, Wilmas boyfriend, a jilted lover etc, never mentioning his name, religion, or refugee status.

    Sweden is feminized and PC, and young Swedes, boys and girls, are paying the price with their blood.

    Brh

    • tucsonspur May 19, 2020 at 4:45 am #

      Some shit, Brh. And there’s more.

      Look at what these stupid Swedes are doing to themselves. Trust them on their approach to covid as they chip away at themselves?
      Not a chance.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/id-wallet-keys-all-in-your-hand-sweden-moves-into-the-future-with-microchipping-71200837625

      Chip, chip, hooray! Chip, chip, hooray!

      The End is near. Nearer than you think.

      • BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 5:01 am #

        Something tells me in Sweden, Elsa and Sven will be lined up around the block, eager to be chipped, however …

        … when it comes to implanting chips in the hands of Shabazz and Mustafa, in Muslim majority Malmo, and in Muslim ‘No Go’ zones in Gothenburg and Stockholm, it will be a different story, and Sweden’s feminized PC police will be greeted with Kalashnikovs, Molotov Cocktails and fragmentation grenades ( which they seem to have plenty of)

        Brh

        • malthuss May 19, 2020 at 11:06 am #

          One theory is that as Sweden is lost, the virus is welcome.
          The old are most resistant to Islamic Sweden and
          the virus helps end the pension crisis, they died.
          2 birds, one stone.

    • BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 5:03 am #

      I’m an early riser.

    • malthuss May 19, 2020 at 11:00 am #

      gosh–you posts seem more like Janos every week.

  60. Laundromat Blues May 19, 2020 at 6:34 am #

    Coming up on 100,000 dead Americans in the Trrump Pandemic. I’m sure Trump will start Trump Care to help all the Americans he has sickened. I’m sure all the elderly in the nursing homes are feeling quite confient with his leadership. I’m sure that in his mind, America loves him. I’m sure.

    • benr May 19, 2020 at 9:55 am #

      Yes he has personally made at least 100k Americans mentally ill why even you.

      • K-Dog May 19, 2020 at 10:06 am #

        Confusing death with mental illness. That is a very interesting confusion. Kind of a head-scratcher. I think I will make myself very sleepy if I think about the irony of this too much.

        • benr May 19, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

          Try as you might you can’t quite read the Post I responded to.

          Read it several times so you can wrap you mind around why I posted as I did.
          Trust me it will sink in eventually.

          • Majella May 19, 2020 at 8:36 pm #

            All you needed was a little punctuation, benr (as I’ve said before if memory serves):

            Yes he has personally made at least 100k Americans mentally ill why even you.

            Yes, [and] he has personally made at least 100k Americans mentally ill. Why, even you.

          • benr May 20, 2020 at 10:43 am #

            @majella

            Thanks but as Janos suggested a healthy mind is capable of filling in the blanks punctuation grammar spelling missing or extra letters the mind over comes.
            If it can’t then someone has become to rigid and set in their ways.

            You are going to have a hell of time with the next several text heavy generations who abbreviate words use no punctuation at all and don’t care about spelling.

          • Majella May 20, 2020 at 12:22 pm #

            Words convey meaning. Punctuation mediates that meaning.

            Can you tell the difference in meaning, as mediated by a comma:

            “Hey, let’s eat Grandma!”

            “Hey, let’s eat, Grandma!”

          • K-Dog May 20, 2020 at 1:31 pm #

            Try as you might you can’t quite read the Post I responded to.

            Do you want everyone to know you are keylogging me? Be more careful.

          • K-Dog May 20, 2020 at 1:31 pm #

            I already knew about it.

          • Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 3:32 pm #

            I love the Jello has been reduced to trying to correct punctuation on a blog.

          • Majella May 21, 2020 at 3:01 am #

            HigIQwl:

            I love the Jello has been reduced to trying to correct punctuation on a blog.

            What I find most amusing is just how often HigIQwl cannot resist any opportunity to throw a “bully swagger” at me.

            How needy. How sad. What a wanker.

  61. Pucker May 19, 2020 at 7:47 am #

    Many Latin women get really horny when they think of Che Guevara.

    I read “The Bolivian Diary of Che Guevara”. Strange book. In the book, Che Guevara didn’t seem to spend a lot of time in the Andean villages politicizing and organizing the peasants. A lot of time was spent surviving and evading the Bolivian Army. Che talks a lot about trying to build the mystique and “Legend” of the gorilla army. The C..IA eventually hunted him down and killed him in Bolivia.

    The CBS News blokes refer to Che Guevara as an economist. I thought that Che was a physician? What kind of a medical doctor smokes cigars?
    I wonder if there will be an American Che Guevara who will emerge in the US to become the leader of the Gringo Working Class?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xELHGR_ur0Q

    • K-Dog May 19, 2020 at 9:12 am #

      You know about Tania if you know about the diary. Che did not want to believe she had been killed.

    • SoftStarLight May 19, 2020 at 10:02 am #

      It’s funny because Che seems like the only nice one in that bunch with that smile and his casual demeanor. He seems like he has a sense of humor and personality and comes across as relatable.

      • K-Dog May 19, 2020 at 10:22 am #

        John Lee Anderson’s biography of Che is one of the best books I ever read. I know I got the spelling right because I just looked at my bookshelf.

        You are right. Che had a sense of humor and was relatable. He was totally dedicated to his cause. Sartre called Che the most complete man he had ever met. Che wanted to make things happen in this world and he made things happen. Che in that sense was complete and deserves respect.

        Sartres’ comment is often watered down to mean that they aligned in political philosophy. That being Marxism. That is disingenuous. Sartre was commenting on the quality of the man which was 100%.

        Marxism brings up Uncle Karl so things will probably go sideways now. A variation of Godwin’s law.

        Che would go from casual to intense as the situation dictated.

        • BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

          Didn’t Che’ personally execute 19 Cuban soldiers with his Makorov TT semi auto pistol?

          Che was a doosh.

          • K-Dog May 20, 2020 at 1:27 pm #

            Unlikely, Che presided over about 500 hundred trials to make sure evidence was permitted and a defense if any was properly documented.

            Batista had a bad habit of dumping the bodies of young men who disagreed with him in village squares after his police tortured them to death. There were many who were complicit in this and evidence was ubiquitous.

            That evidence was properly presented and then the bastards were properly executed. Che was the judge making sure judgement was distributed with justice. There was nothing random about the executions. If there was not overwhelming evidence about you being a murdering bastard you were safe. If you were a serial rapist who used government connections to consume little girls goodbye to you.

            Che was the judge and would not have sullied himself with the execution of a dirtbag so BRH you can take a flying fuck at the moon. Your story is impossible. In battle Che was fearless and many of his men owed him their lives. Literally.

            I do recall he did executed one or two of his own men who were found to be traitors but that would have been while the revolution was going on. Yes!! — Writing that last sentence jogged my memory.

            There was someone who’s job it was to get supplies or who was more loosely connected to the Sierra Maestra rebels. I am not remembering that part so clearly but this person had for sure been giving info about rebel movements and plans to the Cuban Army. A trial was held by the rebel leadership when this was discovered and a death sentence was passed.

            Then nobody had the balls to shoot the bastard and Mr authentic man, our hero said ‘what the fuck is up with this’.

            Pulling his gun from his belt he walked up to the man and shot him in the forehead.

            Then did he turn around and say to everybody. Get back to work? I doubt it. Nobody can be that authentic. I would have been very pissed and I think Che was very pissed too.

            Surrounded by pussies who talked the talk but did not walk the walk Che had to be pissed. Why should he have to always be the one to do all the dirty work. It had to piss him off but Che knew this ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no fooling around. He was a leader and leaders led.

            Something modern America knows nothing about.

            KDFP

        • benr May 19, 2020 at 2:22 pm #

          He was also a mass murderer and a psychopath so yea if you respect such then I guess you have nothing but glowing compliments for every tin pot dictator ever.

    • malthuss May 19, 2020 at 11:10 am #

      Did you know that Fidel had been a movie extra in Hollywood?
      Che killed many in Cubas gulags. Even killed a small boy for taking food.
      Ches real name is Ernesto Lynch [his Irish heritage]..doesnt sound so special..not much of a ring to it..Ernie Lynch.

  62. Pucker May 19, 2020 at 7:51 am #

    Today is the birthday of Malcolm X and Ho Chi Minh. Happy Birthday Malcolm! Happy Birthday Uncle Ho!

    Have you ever noticed that Malcolm X looks like Ho Chi Minh?

    • SoftStarLight May 19, 2020 at 9:53 am #

      Lol I just googled their pictures and they do not look alike lol :-).

      • Pucker May 19, 2020 at 9:57 am #

        Are you kidding me?!

        • SoftStarLight May 19, 2020 at 10:04 am #

          I was trying to find a picture where they were side by side. Oh well I can’t find one right now.

  63. Pucker May 19, 2020 at 9:58 am #

    I went out twice during the lockdown wearing a mask and avoiding contact with people. From what I observed, almost no one was wearing a mask or observing Social Distancing. The weekend traffic was about half of “normal”. I don’t think that the Americans ever really “Locked Down”? Strange society….

    “ The United States has not crushed its case load in the way the Koreans, Taiwanese, Singaporeans, Chinese, Irish, Australians or Germans have. There are two reasons for this.

    First, the American lockdown was not nearly as stringent as most other countries. Most other countries prevented infected individuals from returning home where they might infect their family members. Such family-to-family transmissions in China were responsible for 80% of infections.

    Second, the United States entered the epidemic later than other countries, so it enacted lockdowns later and so saw its case loads drop later. Belgium and Italy and France and Spain – the four hardest-hit European states – all entered the epidemic earlier than the United States, and yet the United States is loosening its lockdown earlier than the Europeans.

    That means America’s “second wave” of infections will be nothing of the sort, because the “first wave” was never crushed down. The “first wave” will simply have been a step up in caseloads. America’s lockdown only reduced active cases by about one-quarter instead of the 85%+ necessary to truly crush the virus, and so the “second wave” will now begin from an already-elevated case load.

    This removes the United States from the list of countries including China and Korea and Germany which have largely removed the virus from their populations, and instead shifts it to a list of countries including Brazil and India and Nigeria where coronavirus is now endemic.

    And that changes the path of the pandemic and its impacts on a global scale.”

    • SoftStarLight May 19, 2020 at 10:10 am #

      I’m not sure what about this virus I believe anymore. For all we know it may not even be real. Anyhow, in the modern way of looking at the world aren’t we supposed to be happy to be like Brown and Black countries rather than like White or Asian countries? We are supposed to wish we could be half as awesome as Nigeria, India, or Brazil. Right? Being like Korea would be too close to being White and we absolutely can’t go there now can we.

      • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 10:22 am #

        “For all we know it may not even be real. ”

        Indeed. The over 120 British health workers who’ve died while treating ‘Covid’ patients just had a bad cold. Happens all the time with doctors covered in gowns, masks, visors and two pairs of gloves. You get a cold, sneeze in their general direction and they drop like flies. Dead. Even after decades of working with sick people.

      • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 10:24 am #

        Well, I think it is a real virus, but not something all that mysterious. The timing is most curious given that it arrived when lots of people get flus/corona viruses and many even keel over from it. I mentioned earlier that my old employer encouraged employees and alumni to get hydroxychoroquine and keep it on hand (The National Academies in DC).

        The really interesting part is to ponder what can be done when mainstream media marches in lockstep, printing verifiable bullshit about any number of issues. What could one do with a extensive army of media slaves who lie without conscience?

        The scary part is, they could manufacture just about any story and get a decent segment of the population to believe it simply by repetition over thousands of hours and channels.

        As you imply on some level, they would not even need an actual virus.

        • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 10:47 am #

          “I mentioned earlier that my old employer encouraged employees and alumni to get hydroxychoroquine and keep it on hand ”

          You didn’t just ‘mention’ it – you stated unequivocally that it was ‘entirely safe’, which my husband can assure you from his 40-odd years of medical practice is absolute rubbish.

          Likewise the families of the Vets who were the basis of the American research, who will probably have read the results I gave you above, that 28% of their Covid cohort given hydroxychloroquine died, as did 22% of those given hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin (the holy grail according to the Marseille chap), as against only 11% of those who weren’t given either.

          But carry on ignoring it.

          • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 10:51 am #

            Yes, I will ignore it.

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 10:52 am #

            Thank you for admitting your low IQ.

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 10:52 am #

            And for doing it so publicly.

          • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 11:28 am #

            If it is good enough for The National Academies of Sciences and Ronny Jackson, I am not too concerened.

          • K-Dog May 19, 2020 at 11:30 am #

            hydroxychoroquine

            Sometimes reality is eerie. We all know I hate Trump. But in a very calm way I’ll add. so don’t get your undies in a bunch anybody.

            The funny thing is one of my first teen-age obsessions was tropical fish. I knew that a variety of hydroxychoroquine was used in fish tanks for bacterial and fungus control, stuff like that. I knew about fifty years ago that most medicines did not work on viruses at all and natural immunity was our only defense.

            I am pretty sure the hydroxychoroquine packages said so they did not treat viruses. This is not idle speculation. My first job was in a pet shop. The medicine package was specific on what the medicine was used for. I had to know stuff. People did not like getting bad advice and have their animals die. I had to listen to specific symptoms and match up the right medicines.

            If you want to stock up on some tetracycline for the end times this comment gives you info about where to get it.

            Getting back to Trump. The absurdity of the whole hydroxychoroquine brouhaha is ten times more impactful on me. As a pimply faced teen-ager I knew volumes more about basic medicine and biology than Trump does now or ever did and this does not mean I am smart. It means Trump is an idiot. And it makes me feel a bit ill.

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 11:36 am #

            Brilliant. An ‘appeal to authority’ from the smart guy in the room who doesn’t like appeals to authority. And doesn’t like evidence.

            Research result: way more people died after being treated with hydroxychloroquine than without hydroxychloroquine.

            Conclusion: randomised controlled trials absolutely need to be completed before prescribing this drug widely for Covid19.

            Needy Nightowl: (sticks fingers in ears) la la la la la…

            Note that the researchers (being higher-IQ than some on here) didn’t say it’s invalid – they said their research showed no advantage to treatment with HC and that randomised trials absolutely had to be completed before it could be recommended to treat Covid19, especially in view of the much higher death rates in patients treated with HC.

            Sometimes I think you’ve been stuck in one of those films where the child and the father swap places. It’s not even your agenda – it’s the fact that you pick on individuals and will talk any amount of shite in order to make an attention-seeking comment contradicting evidence they put forward, just because it’s them.

            It’s beyond pathetic. What a sad individual.

            LOL.

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 11:46 am #

            “If it is good enough for The National Academies of Sciences and Ronny Jackson, I am not too concerened.”

            https://www.phc.ox.ac.uk/news/use-of-hydroxychloroquine-and-chloroquine-to-treat-covid-19-based-on-poor-evidence

            “Both drugs have been incorporated into some national guidelines to treat COVID-19 in certain situations, despite the lack of rigorous clinical trial data.

            Even funnier when you consider all the Institutes of Science worldwide who back AGW, yet bizarrely their authority suddenly means nothing at all against your massive IQ.

            LOL.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

            Did the packet say it was a malaria drug used on humans for generations? Or are you, Kdog, being about as silly as the dummy who drank some and died?

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

            K-Dog

            One you might be interested in.

            https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04365309

            Could be a daily dispersible ‘baby aspirin’ (with food, natch, especially if you’re female) till this thing’s over could help save you from the worst in case you’re unknowingly pre-symptomatic at some point.

            Anticoagulant, anti-inflammatory AND appears to inhibit virus replication. And costs pennies…

            I’m recalling the post-Covid guy I saw in the chemist and how he had experienced blood clots in his lungs, spleen and other organs I don’t recall.

            Consult your GP first etc. etc. Or just make up your own mind. 🙂 Interesting, anyway.

          • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 3:14 pm #

            Send your wall of text to Ronny and my old colleagues.

            Might also be time for a hobby.

          • GreenAlba May 19, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

            You’re getting sadder, Needy.

            Evidence, dear boy, evidence.

            It’s a thing. And much better than name dropping, Needy.

          • Majella May 19, 2020 at 7:18 pm #

            Appealing to Dr Ronny Jackson? You mean the self-prescribing W H doctor with on-the-job drinking issues? THAT Ronny Jackson?

            https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evqw3w/ronny-jackson-prescribed-himself-drugs-and-had-a-drinking-problem-democrat-says

            Oh, and now a ‘high-profile’ Obamagate hysteria disseminator:

            https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/14/politics/ronny-jackson-obama-tweets/index.html

            You need to be a little more selective in your ‘authorities’.

          • Majella May 19, 2020 at 9:14 pm #

            “Brilliant. An ‘appeal to authority’ from the smart guy in the room who doesn’t like appeals to authority. And doesn’t like evidence”

            GA, HigIQwl only likes ‘evidence’ that he can demand while being fully aware that the person from whom it is demanded is not in the position of an investigative journalist or prosecutor.

            Interestingly, some recent posts from HigIQwl imply that he is, in fact, BOTH of these things. Yet when asked for evidence on anything (be it ‘Obamagate’ or Hydroxychloroquine) he has nothing to offer…tattered Twitter posts & bedraggled #hashtags.

            Incidentally, with his being an editor extraordinaire, it’s refreshing to see the odd typo get past his steely gaze. (‘concerened’)

        • K-Dog May 19, 2020 at 11:06 am #

          The scary part is, they could manufacture just about any story and get a decent segment of the population to believe it simply by repetition over thousands of hours and channels.

          And people really are that dumb. Sad but true.

          “More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette.” lasted 6 years.

          The un-examined life is not worth living and these days even an examined life is having serious issues. But once you get the hang of what is going on with the endless repetition it starts to piss you off. That is not immunity but it at least warns if you pay attention and notice.

          Pay attention to the stories that are being pushed at you. They are not pushed at you to inform or teach. In American media that intent is rare. Stories are pushed to persuade manipulate and control.

          Saying people really are that dumb is a bit cruel of me and in defense of humanity we hunger for stories because that is how we make sense of the world. That we make mistakes and at times are as dumb as a board about it is only because we crave explanations with a raw hunger and the hunger can get the better of us. We are naturally trusting and that simple fact of our nature is easily exploited by those among us who dedicate themselves to deception.

          When the lizard people arrived they knew they had found a good thing and they prospered.

      • K-Dog May 19, 2020 at 10:46 am #

        I’m not sure what about this virus I believe anymore. For all we know it may not even be real.

        Do you really want to put that out there?

        I could be adversarial and appeal to those strange things called facts but why bother. In the face of fact inflation facts are ignored.

        A few minutes ago I wrote to you about Che.

        I am not sure what about _______ I believe anymore is not being a complete person. Sartre does not approve.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

          Reality is complicated and every changing, like the viruses than themselves. They are protean, like the God, Proteus. We must become more protean to deal with them and those, like Gates, who trade in them.

          Stop thinking of him as just a scumbag IT mogul. Disease has been his main business for over a decade now.

        • SoftStarLight May 19, 2020 at 2:47 pm #

          Well I guess I should have said “for all I know”. Because I’m not really sure. I’m not a doctor or a virologist and I don’t know anyone who has had it personally so to accept the reality of it I have to believe what I am being told one way or the other. And since it isn’t around me it doesn’t seem real. But life is not static so that could change too and then what’s real would seem different too.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

        Greg Johnson said there were more than thirty different versions of the disease. Dr Miskovits said, It wasn’t created, but it was played with. Now bring these two thoughts streams together.

        So just maybe: the disease started spreading in China. With this as cover, they released the enhanced version. Also factor in the natural capacity viruses have to mutate. Add in the Global Agenda of getting it all spread all over the globe via the Chinese diaspora.

        As far as the damage done: factor in the age of the various national populations. Italy is the oldest country in the world. Maybe they got a bad version of the virus too, but the first factor alone might account for their death rate. And they have a lot of Chinese people in the north which was hardest hit.

        All by accident? With the Global Elite first to respond, eager to not waste a long awaited disease crisis? Maybe – but I can’t get past Event 201 six weeks before the main festivities began. Maybe the natural disease was already around the Globe but then they released the big guns and declared a crisis.

        • SoftStarLight May 19, 2020 at 2:49 pm #

          That’s good. We should not get past Event 201. I think they always count on us getting past things and going back to sleep.

    • K-Dog May 19, 2020 at 10:40 am #

      That means America’s “second wave” of infections will be nothing of the sort, because the “first wave” was never crushed down.

      I suggest surge is the more appropriate word.

      Pucker,

      And that changes the path of the pandemic and its impacts on a global scale.

      That is ominous. If the germ pool of Americans matches the global south but not the rest of the first and formerly first world nations. Western civilization splits in a sense.

      This could be like back in 393. In 393 two years before his death, Emperor Flavius Theodosius divided the Roman Empire into two parts.

      Same thing could be happening now and it looks like we will be stuck in the bad half. The half that does not last long.

      Appropriate corrective action needs to be taken.

      • elysianfield May 19, 2020 at 11:23 am #

        “Same thing could be happening now and it looks like we will be stuck in the bad half. ”

        Well, maybe. But I will be stuck in the bad half with a goddamned Dodge Cummins diesel.

        • K-Dog May 19, 2020 at 11:36 am #

          With grass for gas.

          • CancelMyCard May 19, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

            “With grass for gas.”

            Yep, just like my uncle’s draft horses.

          • elysianfield May 19, 2020 at 1:57 pm #

            Dog,
            Country boys will survive…Diesel stores well…15+ years.

        • BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 4:32 pm #

          “Grass, Gas or Ass. Nobody rides for free”

          Bumper sticker seen on back of a truck parked at Poppa Wheeliez.

          If you go, don’t order a Manhattan, or a Cosmopolitan.

          Brh

          • Q. Shtik May 19, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

            And definitely not a Howdy Doody.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 12:49 pm #

        Well our Southern Border is typically wide open. And we are getting their many diseases now as well. Why wouldn’t we? And no one seems to care since only the lowest of the low believes in borders and nations now, certainly when it comes to Whites!

  64. stelmosfire May 19, 2020 at 11:08 am #

    I always liked this guy. Eddie Haskell. won’t be down for breakfast. Left the Beaver to be on “Petticoat Junction” with Sleepy Uncle Joe Movin kinda slow.

    Shot 5 times on the job.at 1:30 minutes in.

    Osmond joined the Los Angeles Police Department in 1970 and grew a mustache to be less recognizable. In 1980, Osmond was shot in a chase with a suspected car thief, though he was saved by his bulletproof vest. He was put on disability and retired from the force in 1988.

    • stelmosfire May 19, 2020 at 11:12 am #

      I’ve never been shot while wearing a vest but I have seen the bruises. I imagine it feels like someone hitting you in the sternum with a three lb. Stanley ball peen hammer.

    • malthuss May 19, 2020 at 11:14 am #

      really? I didnt notice him on PJ. [a really dumb show].

      • stelmosfire May 19, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

        Malthuss,Come on ‘Man the chicks are sweet 40 seconds on the tube. You gotta love those southern chicks. Especially Texas girls.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 12:56 pm #

        Looks to be a surgical strike. Is it joy I feel? It was fun fighting with him but there was no give and take, as there is with a regular person as opposed to a hardened partisan. It was just showing his absurdity to other people since he would never acknowledge being wrong or even respond to actual arguments.

        First amendment issues? Do infiltrators have individual rights? Or the Corporations who fund them?

        • benr May 19, 2020 at 2:24 pm #

          He was here to troll not exchange ideas or even have a fair discussion,
          I suspect Jim concluded the guy was a plant.
          No worries if he was he will be back in anew form as that is how Legion works.

      • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 3:11 pm #

        YouTube and Facebook’s anti-truth filters were reverse engineered, optimized for Newspeak and applied to the blog. As a result, his posts have disappeared.

    • elysianfield May 19, 2020 at 11:28 am #

      “I imagine it feels like someone hitting you in the sternum with a three lb. Stanley ball peen hammer.”

      Saint,
      Yes, enormous, ugly bruises…sometimes broken bones.

      Vests did not exist when I was on the OPD.

      • stelmosfire May 19, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

        OUCH! my man, A plate but who wants to wear one when it is 90 degrees F. I knew medics that worked part time in the ghetto that wore them with the kevlar. but it totally sucks. Especially since the gansters can’t shoot straight and are bound to hit ya’ in the head anyway.

        • BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 12:22 pm #

          Well they hold their stolen 9mm semi autos sideways, making it hard to aim.

        • stelmosfire May 19, 2020 at 12:32 pm #

          IT behooves me, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, What the flying fuck? I thought we had a pandemic going on? C’mon man.. Get with the program. We are all going to die for Christ Sakes!

        • benr May 19, 2020 at 2:27 pm #

          Had a 22 round ricochet when I was 12 and it hit me in the leg.
          Got to say it stung like a red hot needle.
          It did not penetrate to far so I was able to remove it with tweezers.
          Made me more careful to ensure what I was shooting at had no rocks behind it.

          • BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 3:59 pm #

            That happened to Hemingway, same thing, ricochet .22 to the leg.

          • BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 4:08 pm #

            Colt Woodsman. How about you, Ben?

            Benr did you seem my post above about the surfer who got ate by the shark? Is that something you worry about? Or so rare not to mention?

          • benr May 19, 2020 at 4:58 pm #

            I responded and no I don’t worry about them at all until I see them, I then calmy paddle in and get out of their way without appearing to be prey.
            I have surfed all over the globe and in some of the sharkiest areas.
            Been very close to large Tiger sharks in hawaii one at Sandy Beach the locals named and was 15-18′ they just put their feet up when he glides by.
            I got out of the water when I saw him,/her.

            Surfed all over the bay area saw huge elephant seals with enormous bite radiuses out of them still bleeding out and twitching as I exited the water just before dark and thought whoops stayed out to long.

            Had many encounters with various sharks in Florida and Panama up to and including being bumped.
            Was bumped by a very large something outside of Mission beach jetty on my SUP. Hard enough it launched me a couple feet in the air and when I hat the water I guess I scared it and it took off.
            To be honest I am more afraid of sting rays as they have stung me five times in my life four of them in the last year.

            Grabbed these buried posts from above.

            Yea he was hit at Manresa a known sharky spot right smack dab in the southerner end of the red triangle.
            I used to surf there, moss landing, davenport landing, scotts creek, greyhound rock steamer lane, three mile, four mile, and wadell creek.
            I was in the water an hour before at Davenport when someone was attacked I noticed a fisherman steaming buy cutting up fish and tossing the heads and guts in the water so I got out.

            A couple of months later another guy got hit at a place called water falls a mile or so up the road from scotts creek while I was in the water. A cop bull horned me to get out. The weird part is it went from crowded to empty and I failed to notice. my spidey sense was not as attuned to things as some of the locals.

            As I said a life without chances taken is no life.

            benr
            May 19, 2020 at 1:04 pm #
            The two attacks happened really close to each other July and October of 91.

            http://www.sharkattackdata.com/place/united_states_of_america/california

            Surfing is far safer than crossing the street or driving.

          • benr May 19, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

            I wound up slowly collecting various .22’s over they years.
            The one that bit me was my uncles and I have no clue what it was. i just knew I wanted to shoot it and did thankfully he never found out I “borrowed” it.

            I have a colt woodsman .22

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Woodsman

            A ruger 10/22 long rifle.
            https://ruger.com/products/1022/overview.html

            Remington target master 510-x super accurate bolt action run 10’s opf thousadns of rounds through.

            https://simpsonltd.com/remington-targetmaster-model-510x/

            Browning Buckmark

            https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/pistols/buck-mark-pistols.html

            Stevens model 125 this one I had not realized was so old till now.

            https://www.gunvaluesboard.com/stevens-model-125-22-caliber-bolt-action-single-shot-rifle-12440438.html

            And my pride and joy the worst hand gun produced,

            Rohm RG-10 in .22

            https://www.gunsamerica.com/920408966/Rohm-22-Short-model-RG10-Revolver-2-7-8-inch-6-Shot-German-made-1968-Side-Loader-Rod-Missing-1968-Manufacture-C-R-Status-on-1-1-2018.htm

            I won’t even load this turd and I filed the firing pin down so no one could ever shoot it.

          • BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 6:20 pm #

            Phew! Nice detailed posts my friend.

            I thought I pretty much knew most of the brands, models and manufacturers of .22 hand guns, but the Rohm escaped me. Nice novelty piece tho.

  65. Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 1:13 pm #

    Washington Examiner, Spencer Neale

    A top lawyer who defended President Trump during his Senate impeachment trial believes the Constitution grants the government “power” to vaccinate citizens against their will.

    Speaking with Crowdsource the Truth host Jason Goodman over the weekend, Harvard professor Alan Dershowitz said the public’s safety outweighs any private liberty concerns of U.S. citizens who do not wish to be vaccinated for the coronavirus.

    “Let me put it very clearly, you have no constitutional right to endanger the public and spread disease, even if you disagree,” he said. “You have no right not to be vaccinated, you have no right not to wear a mask, you have no right to open up your business.”

    Goodman interjected to clarify whether Dershowitz was saying the federal government has the ability to mandate vaccinations for all citizens.

    “Absolutely,” Dershowitz replied. “And if you refuse to be vaccinated, the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor’s office and plunge a needle into your arm.”

    The lawyer said that U.S. residents don’t have a right to infect others and that if they wish to opt-out of vaccination, they could be given an alternative in which people rejecting the state mandate could remain in their homes permanently so as not to risk infecting others.

    “That’s what a democracy is about,” he said. “If the majority of the people agree and support that, for public health measures, you have to be vaccinated, you have to be vaccinated. They should give you an alternative. The alternative is to live in your home, don’t get vaccinated, but never ever leave your home or live in a bubble. But if you want to interact with other people, you cannot become Typhoid Mary. The Constitution doesn’t give you the right to spread your illness to other people.”

    Dershowitz argued that healthcare workers and officials forcibly vaccinating the public through a legislative and judicial process that comes to a consensus on widespread vaccination is the best defense against the spread of disease.

    On Friday, President Trump announced “Operation Warp Speed,” which, in part, created a vaccination initiative with a stated “goal” of producing 300 million coronavirus vaccines by January 2021.

    JS: Dershowitz protocols! Thank God we live in a Republic not a Democracy – or we were supposed to at least. But do we? Because Democracy is just two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.

    The Constitution doesn’t say anything about it per se. But it does focus on individual rights and restricting the Government. And traditionally, forced vaccination has not been popular.

    • SoftStarLight May 19, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

      Who are these people? I thought at one point Alan Dershowitz was reasonable but he sounds more like a monster. And supposedly he has a connection to Epstein. I don’t respect his opinions anymore.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 2:45 pm #

        Trump is going to need the Army for this. Now he will he declare Martial Law – for this and for Them? When he wouldn’t do it before, for Us?

        • SoftStarLight May 19, 2020 at 2:54 pm #

          It’s unfathomable but I’m not feeling good about it. Some people say he is doing these things to bring the real fanatics out into the open and get them exposed. I suppose that could be happening to some degree but again I just have so little faith now in that sort of thing. And if he is doing that will people listen and respond in kind in November to make sure such people can’t hold office?

        • K-Dog May 20, 2020 at 12:49 pm #

          Who cares why he does it. It will be fun. Your kind of thing for sure.

    • benr May 19, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

      the No agenda guys talked at length about this.
      Say what you the conspiracy guys make more and more sense and the big government lovers who pontificate at length about tin foil hat wearers look more and more foolish and unbelievable by the day.

      Oh my:
      The “Political” use of the phrase “Never let a good crisis go to waste” is based upon the points made in Saul Alinsky’s rules for radicals,

      Using for ones advantage any crisis real or created is a common tool used by those waging Political warfare.
      When used in this way, crisis and its amplification as “thinking and acting as a group”, is no longer a tactic of protest but instead a tactic of subversion, used to bring about totalitarian government control, Socialism or Communism.

      • Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 3:19 pm #

        That is a good point, Benr — particularly as everything is now politicized.

    • beantownbill. May 19, 2020 at 2:55 pm #

      Once, a long time ago I was at a party that Dershowitz was attending as well. He was after this pretty girl who I could tell didn’t want any attention from him. As she walked away, I protected her by hanging out with her for a long time. Dershowitz kept walking by us to see if I was about to leave her, so he could step in. I didn’t and he eventually left the party.

      Bill 1, Dersh 0.

      Question: What if a new, highly contagious pandemic arises that kills 80% of those who get it. As hundreds of thousands, even millions of people die from the disease, the government mandates that anyone going outside must wear a mask. Would you support this rule or not? Not a trick question, no right or wrong, just wondering about your thoughts on the matter.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 4:11 pm #

        Masks that stop the disease or hijabs, tokens of submission to the Global State?

        In Heinlein’s Time Line, people were given the option of signing the Covenant. Those who didn’t had to go off World or onto the Reservation. The best people didn’t sign.

        In one story, the philosophical young criminal lets the Court have it, calling them hypocrites, wimps, and degenerates. The Judge responded well, Asking will you hear me? The young man reluctantly assented. “There is danger in the Mountains of the Moon and adventure out among the mines of the asteroids. If you want those things, go there – but do not force your violent ways on us!

        The young man was sentenced to the Reservation. He had a travel machine and all kinds of goodies for homesteading. He was optimistic about meeting people of like mind. A half mile in he was robbed of most of his stuff by “tax collectors”! Later he met a military agent who was undercover on the Reservation: they were planning an attack against the outside United States. He told him that of course the best and smartest people never signed – and some of the most dangerous of them were on the reservation, working on a high tech weapon of mass destruction. The Revolt was put down and the young man taken under the wing of the Agent, probably joining the Off World Forces.

    • Patriot May 19, 2020 at 3:00 pm #

      “Re: Forced Vaccinations: “My body, my choice” Sound familiar or is there an echo in this room?

      • Janos Skorenzy May 19, 2020 at 4:18 pm #

        If my mask doesn’t protect me from you then it doesn’t protect you from me either. If a does not equal b then b does not equal a.

        Grey area? Ok, it might catch the water droplets coming out. But as soon as I assert my First Amendment rights to speech, my wind will dry the droplets sending the freed viruses out as so many missiles towards the mouths of the enemy. Or will gravity immediately down them? How heavy are they per cubic nanometer? What is their specific weight?

  66. benr May 19, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

    So here comes the excuses like diarrhea splattering the news feeds.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/why-the-cdcs-coronavirus-data-is-so-bad/ar-BB14iPcF?ocid=spartanntp

  67. tucsonspur May 19, 2020 at 2:43 pm #

    A belated thank you to GA for the interesting link to Transition Town Kinsale.

  68. BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 2:50 pm #

    Yeah I was wondering if anybody is still dying from the regular flu? Or are all deaths now caused by Covid-19. High strangeness on the homefront, my place here was part of a 600 acre farm that was in the same family 1736-1956. I have the high ground that was the apple orchard, and indeed, there are a few apple trees extant. The main farmhouse, an old colonial, still exists and it was bought by a heart surgeon about 10 years ago, who did a nice job restoring the place. We hardly ever saw him, he was in such demand he was always off in Hartford, NY or Boston playing his trade. But since April 1 it seems like he’s home every day. We asked him what’s up and he told us no more heart surgeries except in the most dire emergencies. Apparently there aren’t that many emergencies because he’s home right now. At any rate on Saturday a semi pulled up and dropped off a pretty big boat, almost like a yacht, in the field by his house. We walked down to check it out. He said he got a good deal on it but had to have it dropped off at his house because the marina is closed on the Sound, he’ll have it towed down there when things open up. It’s like towing a f#kkn Destroyer. Meanwhile its sitting in the middle of a field, still on a trailer. That’s quarantine, baby!

    Brh

    • beantownbill. May 19, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

      I know of a few cruise ships he could buy at rock-bottom prices. Or maybe get a good deal on an oil tanker.

      • BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 3:33 pm #

        Hey Bill pretty good Boston story.

        Still you have to admit Dershowitz is a pretty interesting character. Maybe not a ladies man tho LoL.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 20, 2020 at 1:14 am #

          I love the way you focus on the important issues. Not only today but when I was talking about degree of race mixing, you related how you got to see Charles Bronson’s tomb. How do you sum things up so succinctly?

      • malthuss May 19, 2020 at 7:24 pm #

        And out by Palm Springs, there are 1000s of nice cars, all available.
        Hertz is going belly up.

    • Q. Shtik May 19, 2020 at 5:24 pm #

      plying

  69. Robert White May 19, 2020 at 2:59 pm #

    Americans should tax the rich like they were all born again Communistic Fidel Castros plural, and also demonopolize the monopolies like the telecoms & Amazon et al.

    The SARS-2-nCov-19 deadly pathogen will not genocide enough people to make the macroeconomy flowing again. American trade wars have sealed the fate of American commerce going forward as there are now few sovereign nations willing to go along with USA deep state jockeying for USD supremacy once again. Hegemony will either go to China or the USA will be eliminated entirely via unilateralism via trade with China.

    The USA is NOT a global manufacturer anymore and most world nations need a strong manufacturing economy to facilitate trade flows globally.

    President Trump came on the scene with grandiose delusions of grandeur with his MAGA rhetoric that quickly turned to aggressive war planning & posturing otherwise known as the cold war returned.

    The world does not want American leadership running world affairs anymore IMHO. What is certain to manifest is kinetic war likely in the South China Sea.

    Baltic regions are not fortified enough to take on Russian Federation so that China only has to wait out the USA positioning for another round at global governance & hegemonic leadership.

    In this light Trump destroyed America & global business of state.

    Vote Democrat to turf the incompetent Republican Party planners that can’t plan a smoothly running popcorn stand in the greatest venue on Earth.

    Throw the bums out this electoral round, Jim.

    And move over to the Democrats too, eh.

    RW

  70. Patriot May 19, 2020 at 3:24 pm #

    The Earth’s response to COVID-19 has set back any alien attempts to communicate with us 10,000 years

    • beantownbill. May 19, 2020 at 3:44 pm #

      There’s plenty of aliens crossing over our borders every day.

    • K-Dog May 20, 2020 at 12:44 pm #

      If we did not have ubiquitous communications and if their universal translator was not so good they would be wondering why dynamics on the ground have changed so much. All their eyes in the sky have noted our economic slowdowns and the men who have nothing better to do than complain and stand on stone steps at state capitals.

      And aliens have taken samples of the virus. Count on it. The final wave really might come from a lab. Theirs.

      It is a goddamn good thing for us they have uncontrolled responses to human porn. When greys watch human porn their giant black eyes turn blue and they start to smell funny. They can’t stop watching it. They might break away once or twice but uncontrolled urges make them return to their video screens every time. After one or two break-aways they are finished and don’t have the energy or will to animate themselves away from their infinite jest. They watch their screens until they wither away and die from starvation.

      The schism in their politics keeps us save. Some of them want to build a virtual robot wall around our solar system. Robot vaporization of any eye in the sky that shows up to park and peek. Others want to take over. As long as they fight among themselves we are safe.

  71. Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 4:02 pm #

    Biden and Kerry shaking down Poroshenko, making threats RE: Shokin, covering his tracks, etc.

    Stuff we already knew to some extent, but the tapes are always handy.

    https://twitter.com/DilleyShow/status/1262817602595774464

    Massive corruption.

    • Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 7:41 am #

      After listening to these tapes, one of the most fascinating aspects is that what Biden did here is exactly what they were trying to accuse Trump of.

      Classic projection.

      Beyond parody. With the tapes to prove it.

      • benr May 20, 2020 at 10:48 am #

        Yep.
        Democrats always accuse others of what they are engaging in.

  72. benr May 19, 2020 at 5:22 pm #

    How about a post that is just cool?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/animals/a-superpod-with-over-one-thousand-dolphins-was-spotted-off-the-coast-of-california/vi-BB14jHgz?ocid=spartandhp

    Not everything has to be politics or doom and gloom?

    • Iananna May 19, 2020 at 11:09 pm #

      Here’s something just as uplifting – Magpies laughing at humans, probably for being so stupid.

      https://twitter.com/i/status/1261924934453850112

      • Majella May 20, 2020 at 5:57 am #

        Here’s a beautiful poem, post WW1, when a young couple was assisted on to new land to break in, as part of the compensation for his four years at war for Old Mother Blighty. Magpies have managed to establish themselves in New Zealand since C1820.

        The magpies have a distinctive call, which you’ll have heard in that video (among the least raucous of ‘Strine birds). The poet, Denis Glover, renders it as exquisitely “Quardle-oodle-ardle-wardle-doodle…”

        “The Magpies

        When Tom and Elizabeth took the farm
        The bracken made their bed
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies said

        Tom’s hand was strong to the plough
        and Elizabeth’s lips were red
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies said

        Year in year out they worked
        while the pines grew overhead
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies said

        But all the beautiful crops soon went
        to the mortgage man instead
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies said

        Elizabeth is dead now (it’s long ago)
        Old Tom’s gone light in the head
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies said

        The farm’s still there. Mortgage corporations
        couldn’t give it away
        and Quardle oodle ardle wardle doodle
        The magpies say.

        • K-Dog May 20, 2020 at 12:26 pm #

          I though Tom sold the farm to a China-man and took the money to Vegas? Or was that his neighbor?

          • Q. Shtik May 20, 2020 at 1:05 pm #

            thought

          • Majella May 21, 2020 at 3:05 am #

            Nah…

            Tom was too committed to the indentured servitude of a mortgage…and anyway, all the Chinamen around then had made their money in the goldfields (sieving through the tailings of the lazy-arsed whites) and had bought heaps of commercial property in the city! Fuck farming!

        • Iananna May 21, 2020 at 11:57 pm #

          Aotearoa is so lucky to have had the British introduce Magpies & Possums. I wonder whether Macropods were included?
          There are so many wallabies gone feral on the Isle of Man that they are now a traffic hazard.
          And they are endemic on the Wiltshire moorlands, possibly escaped from the Longleat, the mad Marquess’ safari park.

    • Majella May 20, 2020 at 6:01 am #

      No, but the 30 second commercial for a slots site was excruciating, and as long as the piece re: dolphins.

  73. benr May 19, 2020 at 5:54 pm #

    Yep the wheels are falling off the mask narrative even in progressive San Fransicko.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/san-francisco-wine-bar-admonished-by-sfpd-for-unmasked-crowds-drinking-on-sidewalk/ar-BB14jTY4?ocid=spartandhp

  74. capt spaulding May 19, 2020 at 8:20 pm #

    President Trump revealed on Monday that he has been taking Hydroxychloroquine for about two weeks now. He announced today that he will continue taking it, but in a slightly different manner.

    After further consultation with the White House Physician, President Trump will begin taking the medication in suppository form for improved distribution throughout the body.

    To aid fellow citizens who might wish to emulate the President’s action, directions in application are as follows: Bending over at the waist, place the medication in the proper orifice. Push in with index finger to proper depth. A rule of thumb, so to speak, is about two inches. Allow about two minutes to soak, and then clench buttocks tightly, crushing the capsule and allowing the medication to be absorbed.

    • BackRowHeckler May 19, 2020 at 9:07 pm #

      What’s Biden taking to keep him alive? Is he still alive?

      • capt spaulding May 19, 2020 at 9:16 pm #

        Bribes.

      • capt spaulding May 19, 2020 at 10:28 pm #

        Upon further reflection, BRH, I have noticed that Trump cultists have lost their sense of humor, as well as the cognitive parts of their brains. I made a stupid joke about about Trump because I think that him taking that pill is silly.

        Your first response is to immediately post and attack Biden, assuming that since I’m mocking Trump, that I’m a Biden supporter. The fact is, I dislike him about as much as I dislike Trump. I think he’s just as much a crook as Donny. Like I said: With cultists, the first thing to go is their sense of humor. If you don’t believe it, tell a Scientologist a joke about L Ron Hubbard sometime.

        • Majella May 20, 2020 at 1:06 am #

          Hear, hear.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 20, 2020 at 1:10 am #

          You overrate humor. Humor isn’t knowledge or wisdom. It is commonly used to deflect real questions, and if deflector can make others laugh, he thinks he has won the debate. A vulgar attitude.

          Some say Jay Leno was forced off Late Night TV because he was waking up, getting more political but in an incorrect, Conservative way.

          • Majella May 20, 2020 at 6:21 am #

            ….or he was just over the hours and just went home to his hundreds of millions of dollars.

          • Q. Shtik May 20, 2020 at 1:26 pm #

            Some say – Janos

            ========

            Try to be more specific than ‘some say.’

          • Majella May 21, 2020 at 3:08 am #

            Try to be more specific than ‘some say.’

            Q – what are you expecting? It’s a classic ‘appeal to authority’ i.e. Prez of Us! Even NigIQwl has fallen to it.

            “If its’ good enough for xxxx, it’s good enough for me.”

        • Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 2:39 am #

          Never forget, the captain has remote viewed The Pee Tapes.

          Getting at ths sort of evidence of Drumpf’s criminality takes incalculable brain power.

          He is above the fray, except for that part.

          • Majella May 20, 2020 at 5:42 am #

            The ‘Pee-Pee Tapes’ don’t evidence ‘criminality’, HigIQwl, and no-one has ever said they did/do. Get your memes right FFS.

            If they were ever to be actually found (not that it matters – they ‘exist’ in the Zeitgeist anyway, along with the Wall & the invoice to Mexico stamped “Paid in Full”), they would be but one more moment of ‘why am I not surprised?’ to those who wouldn’t buy a $1.50 Made-in-China red hat for $35 (though the colouring-in book for $20 might be a keeper).

            Among those who WOULD do as described above, here would be divided views:

            Cohort A – “it’s all faked and very disrespectful!”
            Cohort B – ” yeah, he sure stuck it that uppity Obama-lizard-guy”
            Cohort C – “huh?”

          • Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 8:06 am #

            The Pee Pee Tapes exist in the “Zeitgeist,” kids.

            Emotional thinking at its finest.

            LOL.

          • fugeguy May 20, 2020 at 8:24 am #

            remote viewing.

            and brain power in the same conversation.

            All you need to know about the poster.

          • fugeguy May 20, 2020 at 8:26 am #

            or maybe just a poke. if so my apologies

          • Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 8:45 am #

            Fuge,

            It was a poke based on claims made last week about The Pee Pee Tapes being real and the incident having been “remote viewed” by our mysterious in-house government spymaster.

            The CFN McResistance knows everything.

            Fronald Drumpf is finished.

          • GreenAlba May 20, 2020 at 9:44 am #

            “Never forget, the captain has remote viewed The Pee Tapes.”

            Oops. High-IQ picks the wrong commenter. Is High-IQ man enough to apologise? Are high-IQ and serviceable memory related? Is having a fragile yet overweening ego the same as being an Alpha male? Would an Alpha male be man enough to apologise? Is concrete evidence as valuable as … ‘look at the clever people I used to work with’?

            These and other riveting brain teasers have us all on edge…

          • Robert White May 20, 2020 at 10:08 am #

            I never said I was a ‘spymaster’. I’m above ‘spymaster’ level, frankly.

            RW

          • benr May 20, 2020 at 10:56 am #

            “Robert White
            May 20, 2020 at 10:08 am #
            I never said I was a ‘spymaster’. I’m above ‘spymaster’ level, frankly.

            RW”

            The legend of legion another one with way to high of an opinion of his own opinions.
            Sheesh RW come back down from the heavens already I can’t believe you deign to mix with us common folk.

            Try a good read hear.

            https://summation.net/2019/10/10/over-rating-intelligence-insulting-stupidity-intellectual-bigotry-and-why-the-ivory-tower-insults-successful-people/

          • Robert White May 20, 2020 at 1:00 pm #

            That’s ‘too’ instead of ‘to’ for ‘too high of an opinion’ part. And you used the adjective ‘hear’ when you meant the noun ‘here’ instead, bner.

            I’m not descending from the ‘heavens’ to inform you of this error in terms of spelling. I’m a CANUCK.

            We take the king’s English seriously over here, bner.

            Intel too, eh.

            RW

          • Majella May 21, 2020 at 7:06 am #

            The Pee Pee Tapes exist in the “Zeitgeist,” kids.

            Emotional thinking at its finest.”

            The “Pee Tapes” MUST be in the Zeitgeist – YOU keep bringing them up…

            Is “LOL” an emotional response? I think so. Ipso facto…virtually every post you make is an emotional response. What a wanker.

        • sophia May 20, 2020 at 10:41 am #

          Capt

          Why is it silly? Works as a preventive.

          • Majella May 21, 2020 at 3:09 am #

            Huh? What works a ‘preventative’? Which study proves this claim?

  75. sophia May 19, 2020 at 11:48 pm #

    NY Mayor De Blasio says people can go to the beach and walk or sunbathe, but no swimming!

    Say what? What possible rationale could there be for that?

    Los Angeles mayor says you can go to the beach, but stay off the dry sand! (Of course, you have to traverse on dry sand to get to the wet sand.)

    Has anyone told them the virus dies in fresh air and sunshine?

    I have never been particularly patriotic, but I do hate it when America embarrasses itself like this.

    • Majella May 20, 2020 at 5:48 am #

      Re: no swimming – There’s a desire NOT to put Search & Rescue/Lifeguard people at unnecessary risk of close contact. Sensible. Wait a couple of weeks.

      • GreenAlba May 20, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

        Perhaps there’s a solution, Majella. They could put up huge signs. Americans like huge signs. They could say no kids allowed on the beach without a responsible adult. Responsible adult would mean if you or your kids get into trouble in the water, you’re responsible. As in we’re not providing you with potential mouth-to-mouth or even other close contact in a pandemic, because this is entirely your personal choice and not your work. And one of the lifeguards might have a five-year-old with Type 1 diabetes and a compromised immune system.

        That would surely warm the hearts of all those who despise the nanny state and insist on the exercise of personal responsibility and self-reliance.

        Could end up a bit Darwin Award-y in a few cases, but, as benr pointed out, life without risk isn’t real life. So if you or your kids get in trouble in the water, suck it up. And spit it out. Nobody cares, which is exactly the way you wanted it. I mean nobody who is too virtue-signally to wear a flippin’ mask in a shop would have the nerve to demand someone else give their kid mouth-to-mouth during a pandemic, surely?

        Seems an equitable solution to me. 🙂

        • Majella May 20, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

          The sign should also inform the reader that they waive all rights to sue! That might give them pause. As we all know, Americans are really big on ‘Personal Responsibility’ and will go to the ends of the Earth to find someone else to be personally responsible for their own Cock-ups.

    • Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 9:24 am #

      No one goes to the beach for the sand. Trying to keep people home as long as possible. Delay tactics.

      • sophia May 20, 2020 at 10:43 am #

        Well, lots of people do go to the beach to sunbathe. Hopefully, they live in NY, as in LA that’s a no-no.
        But if they like to swim, better to live in LA.

        • sophia May 20, 2020 at 10:44 am #

          Wait, I think I got that backwards…trying to make sense of the idiotic.

    • benr May 20, 2020 at 10:59 am #

      There is a belief that the virus is expelled in fecal matter and some worries that the water conditioning is not going to kill the virus or someone infected will go in the water and it will live long enough to get in someone elses body via sinus flush.

      • benr May 20, 2020 at 11:01 am #

        Water conditioning or sewage treatment most of which gets expelled into an ocean or water way when possible.

        • Majella May 21, 2020 at 3:10 am #

          Ah… SoCal is a “shithole country”?

          • benr May 21, 2020 at 9:16 am #

            Progressives believe in toilet to tap so yea they are turning SoCal into a real shithole.