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And so, America has a new manufactured crisis, ElectionGate, as if all the other troubles piling up like tropical depressions marching across the September seas were not enough. Let me remind you what else is going on. The Wuhan pandemic is still on the scene, the economy is collapsing, a domestic race-war is escalating, the whole west coast is burning, and US oil production is crashing. Oh… and slow-moving tropical storm Sally is forecast to come ashore as a hurricane on the Gulf Coast today, dumping up to two feet of rain.

America needs a constitutional crisis like a hole in the head, and that’s exactly what’s being engineered for the holiday season by the clever folks in the Democratic Party’s Lawfare auxiliary. Here’s how it works: the complicit newspapers and cable news channels publish polls showing Joe Biden leading in several swing states, even if it’s not true. Facebook and Twitter amplify expectations of a Biden victory. This sets the stage for a furor when it turns out that he loses on election night. On cue, Antifa and BLM commence to riot all around the country. Meanwhile, a mighty harvest of mail-in votes pours into election districts utterly unequipped to validate them.

Lawfare cadres agitate in the contested states’ legislatures to send rogue elector slates to the electoral college. The dispute ends up in congress, which awaits a seating of newly-elected representatives on January 4, hopefully for Lawfare, mostly Democrats. Whoops…!  Turns out the Dems lost their majority there too. Fighting in the streets ramps up and overwhelms hamstrung police forces in Democratic-run cities. January 20 — Inauguration Day — rolls around and the Dems ask the military to drag Trump out of the White House “with great dispatch!” as Mr. Biden himself put it so nicely back in the summer. The US military breaks into two factions. Voilà: Civil War Two.

You didn’t read that here first, of course. It’s been all over the web for weeks, since the Democratic Party-sponsored Transition Integrity Project (cough cough) ran their summer “war game,” intending to demonstrate that any Trump election victory would be evidence of treason and require correction by any means necessary, including sedition, which they’d already tried a few times in an organized way since 2016 (and botched). The Democrats are crazy enough now to want this. They have driven themselves crazy for years with the death-wish of eradicating western civ (and themselves with it). There are many exegeses of this phenomenon, mostly derived from Marxist theories of revolution, but my own explanation departs from that.

The orgy of political hysteria, insane thinking, and violence is a psychotic reaction to the collapsing techno-industrial economy — a feature of it, actually. When all familiar social and economic arrangements are threatened, people go nuts. Interestingly, the craziness actually started in the colleges and universities where ideas (the products of thinking) are supposed to be the stock-in-trade. The more pressing the practical matters of daily life became, the less intellectuals wanted to face them. So, they desperately generated a force-field of crazy counter-ideas to repel the threat, a curriculum of wishful thinking, childish utopian nostrums, and exercises in boundary-smashing. As all this moved out of the campuses (the graduation function), it infected every other corner of American endeavor, institutions, business, news media, sports, Hollywood, etc. The country is now out of its mind… echoes of France, 1793… a rhyme, not a reprise.

The US economy began a slow and insidious collapse because its petroleum energy base became unaffordable. The reality of that was obscured by paradoxical appearances: the shale oil miracle goosed up US oil production from under five million barrels-a-day in 2007 to thirteen million barrels-a-day in 2019. Pretty awesome. Seemed like we were awash in oil. The problem was the companies producing shale oil couldn’t make money at it, and the loans that went into staging the shale oil “miracle” went bad… and then the companies couldn’t get new loans… and went bankrupt. So, the crash of US oil production is a self-reinforcing feedback loop that is sure to continue and will make things worse. Now, less than a year after reaching that majestic 13 million barrels-a-day, production has fallen to around 10 million a day — quite an impressive drop. Further obscuring the actual dynamic in play, gasoline prices at the pump are quite low — under $2.50-a-gallon where I live, compared with $4-plus a couple of years ago — and most citizens consider the price of gasoline their sole index of how things are going in the oil industry.

The Covid-19 pandemic has aggravated and accelerated the damage from that by shutting down much of small business across America since March. The businesses and people who owned them have suffered terribly. That and the public lockdowns have greatly depressed the demand for oil products, driving the price-per-barrel down and reducing the cash flow of the oil companies. That also aggravated worsening relations with our principal trading partner, China, the net effect of which threatens the supply chain for all sorts of critical parts and products needed to keep our complex systems running.

Whether Mr. Trump or anybody can respond intelligently to this long emergency is a matter of considerable moment. As far as election politics are concerned, Mr. Trump is only marginally better positioned because he is not in favor of destroying the existing institutions of the republic as his opponents are. There’s less reason to believe he’s capable of coping with the nuts-and-bolts of the economic collapse that awaits after the election dramaturgy plays out. For Mr. Trump, much depends on the illusory performance of the implausible financial markets. This is the season for market crashes, as it is the season for Atlantic cyclones, and those markets have been acting as toppy as a moon-shot lately.

Meanwhile, the BLM mayhem continues overnight, this time in stodgy little old Lancaster, PA, where a knife-wielding Hispanic man was shot by the cops. Crazy how unjustified that seems. The incident and the reaction to it (riot… fires) followed the assassination attempt of two LA County sheriff’s deputies in their car Saturday night by what appears to have been a black child or a dwarf. Afterward, BLM “protesters” showed up at the hospital where the deputies were undergoing surgery, shouting “I hope they die.” I can’t wait to hear Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell try to explain that to their faithful fans on MSNBC.


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  1. Penelope Dreadful September 14, 2020 at 10:04 am #

    Good article. Thankfully, NFL fans booed all the BLM stuff. There is hope for America, but not much.

    • bluekayak September 14, 2020 at 10:10 am #

      The evaporation of the bloated pro-sports parasitical crime syndicates and their princely paid prima donnas will be at least one silver lining of the coming collapse.

      • oswegatchie September 14, 2020 at 12:48 pm #

        I would add the colleges and high schools to that list. At least the bloated football and basketball programs. Good riddance to all of it.

    • Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 10:45 am #

      Caught a short clip of that today between jobs. Some of The Oppre$$ed looked genuinely spooked.

      All that was missing were a few well-placed tomatoes. Can’t have it all I guess.

    • hortonz September 14, 2020 at 12:59 pm #

      Meanwhile, north of the 49th parallel the number of coronavirus cases is going up dramatically after the idiots in charge declared it safe for kids to go back to school as long as they stay in their government-mandated “bubble” or whatever that means. I guess all that shaudenfreude we Canucks have been expressing at the towards our southern neighbors was all in vain. Meanwhile the heavy-handed interventions of our federal leaders have produced a pandemic of addiction and misery as thousands of citizens have been cashing in their Emergency Relief Benefits for hard drugs instead of using it to pay off bills or feed their families. The damage is pretty bad and it’s not confined to the big cities like Montreal and Toronto as an army of homeless and drug addicted zombies roam the streets and fill up emergency departments of hospitals that are already over stressed due to the pandemic.

      • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 1:36 pm #

        Define “cases”. You can’t. Neither can they. It’s all nonsense. A disease so deadly that you have to be “tested” in order to know you have or have had it or something.

        Yet the sheep wait in long lines for this. Hopeless.

        • tahoe1780 September 15, 2020 at 11:09 am #

          Agreed. “Cases” are a good thing (herd immunity) as long as they are mild ones. It occurs to me that, not only does the U.S. monetize the cure (expensive drugs like remdesivir instead of cheap vitamin D, hydroxychloroquine, quercetin, zinc, ivermectin) but it also monetizes the infective agent (vaccines instead of mild cases)

          • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 5:48 pm #

            Not what I meant. Most of the cases are just bullshit.

      • Kim September 14, 2020 at 7:19 pm #

        The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

        H. L. Mencken

      • Paul September 17, 2020 at 12:45 pm #

        Hm . . . . No shaudenfreude here, mate. There is nothing in me but a generous measure of concern for the people and their loved ones in the United States who have become infected and lost their lives because of this pernicious pandemic.

        In Canada, governments at all levels are well aware of the need not only to manage the spread of the SARS-2 Corona Virus, but to do so without strangling economic activity all together.

        Similarly, governments know that unless they succeed, our hospitals will be completely overwhelmed with excess deaths being the result: not only deaths because of COVID-19, but other deaths from diseases such as heart disease, stroke, diabetes and other afflictions.

        I also take exception to your depiction of ‘ . . . federal leaders[‘] . . . [production having], produced a pandemic of addiction and misery as thousands of citizens have been cashing in there Emergency relief Benefits for hard drugs instead of using it to pay off bills or feed their families.’ Absolute crap! Let me remind you the epidemic of opioid addiction and death has existed long, long before COVID-19 arrived, with current deaths from both plagues running neck and neck. I don’t have the exact numbers to hand, but now that you have me riled, I goddamn will go and find them.

        I just got back from a road trip across Western Canada, the purpose of which was to visit a close relative who has been isolated from visits from family since April, when this relative fell and broke a hip. Not only was the Canadian Health Care system able to provide effective surgery and rehabilitation for this relative, they were able to do so in a hospital setting without this relative being infected with COVID-19 or any other all of these emergency treatments, from the Ambulance ride to the hospital, to the consultations with an array of specialists, X-ray techs, nurses, doctors, physiotherapists and others was delivered immediately, without my relative having to pay a dime for any of it. Note I did no say ‘for free’. Nothing is free, my friend, that’s why we pay our taxes.

        I hope you never lose a close relative neither to COVID-19 nor substance use, nor are afflicted with either of these yourself. I wish you a sweet and easy death, and when the time comes you find yourself well-cared for: that your underwear is as fresh and clean as your mind is serene.

        • ThorsHammer September 17, 2020 at 5:24 pm #

          Hi Paul
          I’m one of those Yanks who sneaked into your country courtesy of NAFTA, Soon after I settled into my new company the financial secretary called me into her office. “Have you received your Care Card yet?” Me— “I’m a f****** Yank—don’t I have to wait for a year for any pre-existing conditions to manifest themselves before applying? She– You are in a civilized country now— we don’t allow people to go without health care.

          I filled out a single-paragraph form and received my Care Card in the mail next week. Hard to believe that you Canucks manage without professional coding specialists to thumb through 2” thick manuals that tell them what procedures are covered and which ones qualify for a limited 600% markup instead of applying the Golden Rule—“Whatever the Market Will Bear.”

    • MontanaMan September 15, 2020 at 7:37 pm #

      The way I see it if you’re a constitutional loving patriot, then you really cannot watch any of these games. Because to watch them is to support them.

  2. scoubidou123 September 14, 2020 at 10:11 am #

    Is there anyone who thinks Trump will win?

    A couple of weeks ago I thought he still had a shot, but no longer. Unless all opinion polls are off by 5-8%. Yeah, I know, 2016, but even then they had Trump behind by just 1-2% (which is more or less how it turned out in the popular vote).

    Barring a major event, like Biden collapsing in the debates or something, the Trump presidency is coming to an end.

    The Trump era of institutional collapse, political street violence and Red Guard indoctrination will live on though,

    • shotho September 14, 2020 at 10:15 am #

      I agree with you. The Democrats will have to deal with the collapse, which has actually been unfolding ever since Nixon removed all vestiges of a gold standard. After four years of unspeakable dysfunction, Tom Cotton or someone like him will ride to the rescue; or, at least, restore some semblance of law and order.

    • Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 10:27 am #

      The only scenario in which Trump loses is if the mail-in fraud goes through and the Uniparty can delay the results for several weeks until they get the vote count they want.

      Regardless, as Jim mentioned, they have already signaled their intention to refuse to accept Trump’s win, regardless.

      This is much bigger than a political party. The Great Reset and the global plantation cannot commence unless Trump loses.

      • benr September 14, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

        The virtual reality you push defies actual reality.
        Again you stump for a group you claim you don’t support yet at every opportunity you never fail to rise to the challenge of making the DNC and its pathetic front runner look cogent.

        Wake up to your short coming of supporting everyone and everything that is anti-Trump as his is the best of the bad options for the survival of the country you “LIVE IN”

        • MontanaMan September 15, 2020 at 7:39 pm #

          I couldn’t agree more with every word you just posted.

          • gonetohell September 19, 2020 at 7:57 pm #

            That’s cuz your from Montana……man.

    • Zoltar September 14, 2020 at 10:30 am #

      Scoubidou: Yes, I do. There are many imponderables in today’s American Hall of Mirrors.

      One is the corporate press which, when motivated by orders from on high, can change the narrative over night.

      A second is the failing brain of Joe Biden. If he gets provoked by Trump into losing his shit during the upcoming debates, or simply implodes, and can no longer be marketed by the DNC as intellectually functional, things could change dramatically.

      • scoubidou123 September 14, 2020 at 11:53 am #

        I did write in the original post that a dramatic change is not impossible, and specifically that Biden is still somewhat wobbly. But at the moment democrats look unshakeably in the lead.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder September 14, 2020 at 10:45 am #

      “The Trump era of institutional collapse, political street violence and Red Guard indoctrination will live on though”

      Lol. Yes, it clearly has been Trump pushing these things. I know too many educated people who somehow twist the world around them to employ this same illogic.

      A family member couldn’t resist suggesting that he probably set the fires in Oregon distract from the Woodward book.

      Everything is, has been, and always shall be, the fault of this one pompous blowhard.

      • shox September 14, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

        “Lol. Yes, it clearly has been Trump pushing these things. I know too many educated people who somehow twist the world around them to employ this same illogic.”

        Just what I was thinking. We are living through the most amazing period of collective “psychological projection.” That is, where much of the population projects their own flaws and evils upon their perceived enemy. And it’s true, not even educated people are above this. Antifa and BLM are wreaking havoc on the streets, yet on leftist discussion boards I read about how Antifa isn’t real and that it’s the far right that’s doing this. In the last KunstlerCast (KunstlerCast 333 — Confab with Political Economist Dr. Jack Rasmus), Rasmus went on about how Trump’s right-wing militia groups were agitating on the streets and preparing to stage a coup. It was painful to listen to. This was an economics professor!!!!

        The left loves to accuse conservatives of reality-denial, for example climate denialism. Yet it is the left which asserts that there is no objective truth or reality. I get the feeling that they are enraged and jealous that their opponents have started to play the same game. Reality denial and the fabrication of alternative facts was supposed to be their own prerogative.

        • UN OUT OF USA September 14, 2020 at 4:34 pm #

          Agreed. I guess they forgot that Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” can be read, and practiced, by all. LOL. Kind of like when General Patton screamed at Rommel, “I read your damn book!” (on tank battle strategy).

      • scoubidou123 September 14, 2020 at 12:11 pm #

        Woh-la!

        In ‘Trump era’, ‘Trump’ is just the marker of the 2016-2020 period. I obviously never thought that Trump is pushing for any of what I listed, Just that they exploded under his presidency. I don’t think they were his, I said the opposite: that they will keep going when he’s gone

        It’s crazy to look back and think how saner things were back in 2016

        • benr September 14, 2020 at 4:27 pm #

          I noticed a dislocation from sanity under Bill Clinton and every resident in the White house has accelerated that dislocation from sanity since.
          Just imagine what the next two or three election cycles if there are any will look like?

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder September 14, 2020 at 4:33 pm #

          Apologies for misconstruing your point. Gotcha now.

      • oswegatchie September 14, 2020 at 12:51 pm #

        I am presently 20 miles south of Eugene and I think I saw something very orange in the distance. Could it have been Trump? Actually, after putting my glasses on, I realized it was just one of the many fires burning here in the Willamette Valley.

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder September 14, 2020 at 4:46 pm #

          I have friends in Portland. They would say it was Trump.

        • elysianfield September 17, 2020 at 7:26 pm #

          Os,
          I did not know that South of Eugene was in the Willamette Valley….

      • Ishabaka September 17, 2020 at 10:43 am #

        #OrangeManBad
        #DementiaManGood

        – all you need to know

        • gonetohell September 19, 2020 at 8:02 pm #

          You won’t get DementiaMan, you’ll get DementedWoman.

    • draupnir September 14, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

      I got a call from a pollster on my mother’s landline the other day. I told them I was undecided and hung up. My support for Trump is undiminished. Those polls are heavily weighted to the Democrat side, and many Trump supporters simply lie or won’t answer them at all, if they are called. This is not an unheard of phenomena. I refer you to 2016 and the surprising loss by the vile Clinton creature (has she ever actually conceded?). Biden won’t be able to debate at all, We will see that when pigs can fly. If the porcine species should develop wings and he does debate, I’m looking forward to him foaming at the mouth and calling Trump a “dog-faced pony soldier,” and worse, possibly foaming rabidly at the mouth. Meanwhile, his running mate is universally loathed, perhaps to the extent the Clinton creature is despised, and a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris. Why do they insist on trying to ram the unacceptable down our throats? The talent on CNN grows louder, more shrill, and hectic by the day.

      • kimmasad01 September 14, 2020 at 5:46 pm #

        They’re protecting the big secret in Washington DC. You know, the pedophile secret. Trump knows about the DC pedophile problem. That’s what it’s all about- oh and the problem goes all the way to the top. Every loathsome politician in DC is compromised.

        • gonetohell September 19, 2020 at 8:05 pm #

          If the pedophilia goes all the way the way to the top than I guess Trump is a pedophile? Not surprised.

    • amb September 14, 2020 at 12:44 pm #

      It’s not the opinion polls that are off 5-8%. It is your thinking that is off by 50-80%. Clueless. Trump will be your next President. The American people aren’t that crazy to succumb to Marxism and the Globalist Authoritarian Demons.

      • scoubidou123 September 14, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

        If there is one thing I can guarantee, it’s that Trump has never been and will never be my president.

        I am not american.

        • amb September 15, 2020 at 2:20 am #

          Irrelevant.

          • scoubidou123 September 15, 2020 at 6:03 pm #

            OK then.

            Yet people declare to opinion polls that they are ready to ‘succumb to Marxism and the Globalist Authoritarian Demons’.

            Will they a) change their mind or b) is polling off by the greatest amount in US polling history?

          • benr September 16, 2020 at 10:41 am #

            @scoobysnacks

            Polling is never accurate especially with people who support Trump but don’t want a crowd of idiots descending upon their house using intimidation tactics.
            blm/antifa are the new brown shirts of the Socialist communist take over attempt.
            People have become so ridiculous and childish that they can’t help themselves they see the other sides colors and they must attack.
            Damaging peoples property, stealing signs or even up to and including assault.

            America has lost its way.

      • kimmasad01 September 14, 2020 at 5:47 pm #

        Completely agree.

    • BackRowHeckler September 14, 2020 at 1:14 pm #

      I think Trump will win. Biden is certainly a weaker candidate than Gore, Kerry or Clinton … losers all.

      Brh

    • Iananna September 15, 2020 at 8:21 am #

      So you are not worried about his serving a third, and subsequent terms?

      • benr September 15, 2020 at 1:24 pm #

        Nope he won’t and even though I support him on his second term I would not support the third as that breaks the law.

        • Iananna September 15, 2020 at 11:21 pm #

          “break the Law”? Ha Ha Ha … or perhaps you are serious?

          • benr September 17, 2020 at 6:44 am #

            Deadly serious the Constitution is no laughing matter.
            Plenty of people feel the same.
            Our entire way of life and freedom to be who or what we want are in jeopardy.

      • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 3:05 pm #

        How is this comment even real?

  3. NickelthroweR September 14, 2020 at 10:11 am #

    Greetings,

    I fled my beachfront home in California at the end of February this year. I told everyone around me that 2020 and the election had a better than even chance of wrecking everything. I begged the people that I knew to leave and that I’d do anything possible to help them escape.

    Now they cant leave.

    It is very difficult to arrange for transportation out of California now. Someone wanting to move today would not be able to arrange for a moving truck anytime before the election regardless of what they were willing to pay. The people that didn’t listen to me are in a panic now and are trying to devise plans to weather the storm.

    My business partner, for example, did not listen to me and now he is in the final stages of building an off road type vehicle/shelter that he will use to flee into the desert to sit out the election. Others that I know (very liberal types) have now realized just how difficult it actually is to purchase a firearm in California as they have always been told that buying a gun is as easy as buying milk at the store. Some of these guys have been waiting 2 months for their weapons as they have to leap through all the hurdles and shortages.

    The United States came out on top of two world wars by sitting the first few years out and letting everyone tire themselves out. I did the same thing as the cities will go full genocidal once the trucks stop delivering lootable supplies. My plan will be to jump in once everyone is worn out.

    • DrTomSchmidt September 14, 2020 at 10:31 am #

      Good luck on the plan. Coastal California has SUCH a pleasant climate. Humans will always want to live there. If they sabotage the aqueducts, however, as the Barbarians did in Rome, it will return to the population density of Spanish Empire times.

      Of course, you don’t need to sabotage the aqueducts: just don’t maintain them. Oroville Dam was repaired at a MUCH higher cost than maintenance would have cost.

      That was then. The future is now.

      • NickelthroweR September 14, 2020 at 11:32 am #

        Coastal California has a problem obtaining fresh water. The system that brings fresh water to the coast requires constant attention or it shuts down instantly. When that happens, California will only be able to support 1/40th of its current population. Then what??

        The 20th Century was the wettest century for California in over 2000 years. Things are going back to the way that they were and that means desert.

        • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 5:19 pm #

          3/4 of Southern California has always been deep desert. Just the fifty to one hundred miles from the coast is Mediterranean climate. Now even it is drying out.

          The real change is in the north. Scant snow and winter rains are drying it out. Like the Sahara, maybe, constantly expanding. The Sahara was expanding a long time before fossil fuels came into play.

          • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 5:21 pm #

            Maybe climate change is being caused by the expansions of urban areas (hot) and the decline of rural areas (cool). California could be a poster child for that.

          • benr September 15, 2020 at 1:30 pm #

            We still have active springs running in San Diego long after they normally run dry.
            The boom and bust of rain is what causes worse than normal fire seasons.
            My father said he measured over 32″ of rain in Ojai California which is a solid 12″ over average rain fall.
            They had a terrible fire season last year.
            More rain in California means worse fire season due to more under brush.
            Making it worse is the Japanese beetle stressing pine trees all over.

            The was a interesting news piece several years ago about the Los Angeles water table being affected by over pumping and that it was less and less able to replenish as a result of settling.

          • benr September 16, 2020 at 10:43 am #

            Different news item same topic.

            https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060086059

      • elysianfield September 14, 2020 at 11:33 am #

        DrTom,
        Well said. Anyone that seeks to “prosper during the coming hard times” is, in my view, an incurable optimist.

        “My plan will be to jump in once everyone is worn out”

        I would suggest that the anarchy soon to be brought to a venue near you will last longer than you can remain safe and above it…any supposed wealth may not weather the issues.

        Read history.

        Watch, or rewatch the “Roadwarrior” for a cartoonish version of what happened in Africa with the Hutus and Tutsi….

        • shotho September 14, 2020 at 12:55 pm #

          I agree with you, Mr. field. There isn’t much that we think of as wealth now that will remain so; at least, for awhile. I even wonder if precious metals will fetch much on the market. The destruction of what we consider ‘wealth’ today is going to be a sight to behold.

        • NickelthroweR September 14, 2020 at 1:32 pm #

          I don’t need to “read history” as I both lived it and taught it to others. I walk around with 6000 years worth of written history in my head and I’ve prepared accordingly to include moving out of S. California. See, I know that cities end up being killing zones and that the partisans that take to the forests and mountains are a lot harder to capture and kill.

          Take the battle of Hürtgen Forest. It was the longest battle fought on German soil in WWII. The US army thought it could waltz through what was actually a tiny forest in 3 days. Instead, it took them 3 months even though the US Army faced mostly poorly equipped children.

          If you are in a city or its suburb then you are probably a dead man typing. You are already dead – you just don’t know it yet.

          • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

            Or the Russians who thought they could waltz thru Finland. As the Russian commander said, we gained just enough ground to bury our dead.

          • benr September 14, 2020 at 4:29 pm #

            Tech as it is makes it very difficult to hide.

          • elysianfield September 14, 2020 at 9:00 pm #

            Nickel,
            Moving out of Kali? I, too, was prepared to do so, and did so…in 1972. To Oregon…thence to Coos Bay, with neighbors on each side of me 3/4 of a mile distant each way…good neighbors, but still too close, by my estimation.

            Deep forest. River on the property. House 1/4 mile away from road.

            You are correct however, I am a dead man typing. Sporty times will spare few.

            I have no illusions of survival when those fine Mandingo warriors come a-callin’.

          • Iananna September 15, 2020 at 8:27 am #

            That is the Swiss model – not the hope of beating an invader but making it a Pyrrhic victory.

    • draupnir September 14, 2020 at 12:24 pm #

      Perhaps you could suggest running an ad on Craigslist for an over-the-road owner/operator of a semi and bypass the moving companies entirely.

  4. RaymondR September 14, 2020 at 10:12 am #

    It will take astute political skills and an abundance of common sense to prevent a second civil war in the USA. Unfortunately, both these qualities are in short supply. Stay away from the big cities this coming winter and spring.

    • DrTomSchmidt September 14, 2020 at 10:28 am #

      New York has already collapsed. It’s like Rome with magnificent monuments after all th Romans who built the place left.

      The sacking happened first in June but it will return. It will be horrible. Unless, that is, you’re interested in acquiring some of the art in the museums. There are more Vermeers in one mile of 5th Avenue than anywhere else on earth. Not for long.

      • elysianfield September 14, 2020 at 11:36 am #

        Vermeers?…Phhhht!

        I’d settle for a small sketch by DaVinci….

        • shotho September 14, 2020 at 12:57 pm #

          I doubt that a DaVinci will power your lights or put food on the table.

          • elysianfield September 17, 2020 at 1:17 am #

            Shotho,
            True, but neither will a can of Beenie-Weenies feed the soul….

      • abbybwood September 14, 2020 at 2:05 pm #

        Let’s not forget about the brutal northeast winters.

        That might make the rats scurry for a while.

        Unfortunately the weather in California will be nice, except for a little rain (if we’re lucky).

        If the MSM covers the criminal who shot the sheriffs in California showing BLM converging on the hospital where they are both in critical condition while screaming, “Die cops!!!”, I really do not think that will settle well with even average Independent voters in swing states.

        Situations like the above coupled with Biden AND Harris both failing in any debates or refusing to debate will spell certain doom for the Democrats.

        Woodward or no Woodward, stupid Tweets or no stupid Tweets, I will vote for Trump because of four solid positions: Ending war, being against abortion, especially late term abortion, wanting an end to illegal immigration and being against the BLM/Antifa insurrection currently trying to strangle this country.

        I believe a solid majority of Americans will agree and this from a Democrat most of my adult life.

        • DrTomSchmidt September 14, 2020 at 10:02 pm #

          Coastal NE winters really aren’t too bad. Western MA is climate zone4. Eastern is 7. The latter occasionally gets too much snow, but it is otherwise not too cold. It’s just horribly gray, and the sun sets at 4pm in December. Depressing.

          I’m glad Trump hasn’t killed foreigners at anywhere near the level of Bush or Obama. But I watched Woodward on 60 minutes. How the hell did anyone let Trump talk to someone so obviously opposed to him? Trump’s judgment is always questionable.

          • benr September 16, 2020 at 10:53 am #

            So you are saying he should avoid people who are obviously against his agenda?

            That is not how the world works and Trump is not a coward like Biden.

      • Kim September 14, 2020 at 7:26 pm #

        We saw what remained of New York at the end of Planet of the Apes.

        Man, wasn’t that prophetic!

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 10:28 am #

      RaymondR

      Oh, not just the big cities. These thugs are already heading for the suburbs, where the good pickings are. When the SHTF this Nov., better be prepared for the crime wave that is going to hit. The cities are looting out, they will move to the areas that still have “stuff”. This is already an organized war, bought and paid for.

    • draupnir September 14, 2020 at 12:29 pm #

      Rioting is going to be hard work in the more northerly cities come November. The climate becomes uncondusive to such activities and the dilettantes will be staying home.

      • BackRowHeckler September 14, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

        Come November in New England, citizens who otherwise would be in the streets looting, burning and stopping traffic on the freeway, are preoccupied with applying for ‘heating vouchers’, that is, free natgas and No. 2 home heating oil so they won’t freeze to death inside their rent subsidized apts during the brutal winter months Dec., Jan., Feb.and March. Being a seasonal activity, looting and burning most likely won’t begin till Memorial Day weekend 2021 at the earliest, round these parts anyway.

        Brh

        • draupnir September 14, 2020 at 4:06 pm #

          Here in Minnesota, winter is a brutal thing with week after dreary week of subzero temperatures, particularly in January and February. Sometimes, it is so cold frostbite will be nipping at your nose within five minutes. One goes out as little as possible, mostly scurrying between your warm house and warmed car. March is noted for blizzards, and we’ve even seen those things as early as Halloween and sometimes the season extends into April. One can only hope for a severe winter this year, to keep the BLM and Antifa subdued. I agree with your assessment.

        • Iananna September 15, 2020 at 8:33 am #

          In Afghanistan there are distinct “fighting seasons”, once crops are planted then again after they are harvested.
          Not sure what the equivalent would be in so deracinated a society as the Benighted States.
          Hands up anyone who helped bring in the farm produce in summer in their childhood?

  5. shotho September 14, 2020 at 10:12 am #

    I’m not convinced that the quantity and price of energy is the driving force behind our current financial difficulties, but it could be as true as any other theory. It certainly adds a dimension to the mix that has developed over the last 25-30 years which has led to the financialization of massive debt burdens and the attendant monetization of said debt. The collapse of bad debt began a year ago in the Repo markets, but greatly accelerated in March. Bad paper has been added on to the existing bad debt to create even more bad debt. When debt revulsion reaches the leveraged speculating crowd, there will be hell to pay and it will affect every corner of the global economy, including energy.

    • DrTomSchmidt September 14, 2020 at 10:19 am #

      Debt with interest represents an exponentially-growing burden on the economy. We were able to offset that growth with exponentially growing supplies of petroleum. We have long past the point where the amount of petroleum extract every year is a constant multiple of the amount we are true extracted the previous year. That means that we have reached the end of exponential graph in available energy from oil.

      We now have no exponentially growing source of wealth the size of oil to offset interest. For a long time we have tried to use exponentially growing transistors on a chip to offset exponentially growing interest on debt. It has not worked for the reason that that is a much smaller part of the economy.

      The debt has to go away: repudiated, or inflated (looks like the latter.)

      • shotho September 14, 2020 at 10:37 am #

        Debt can be defaulted or, as you say, repudiated. I think there is simply too much deflation in the global economy (especially in China) for inflation to really take off.

        • elysianfield September 14, 2020 at 11:37 am #

          Shoto,
          Deflation first, then inflation.

          • benr September 16, 2020 at 10:53 am #

            Or an unhealthy does of stagflation.

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 10:43 am #

      The separation of haves and have-nots is the first order effect, always has been, always will be.

      The pandemic just adds to it. Most of the big boom over the past three years has been in small and medium businesses. Things were humming last year. The pandemic has crushed that. Major, major added on the income gap. That is why Trump tried to beat down the impact. Mother Nature “trumped his ace of spades”.

      Oil, another gap widener, has dropped in supply, again because of the pandemic, economy down, oil demand down. Oil areas such as Texas, North Dakota, or Colorado are going to be clobbered by this. So far, the price point is unaffected, but continuing supply shortfalls are going to aggravate the income gap.

      This idiocy in the cities is an economic war, period. Two generations have watched their spending power erode along with the minorities. Continued educational indoctrination and too many immigrants have caused the gap to expand. The pandemic has fired off the war.

      By the way, what is responsible for putting the skids on fossil fuels, over emphasizing the pandemic, promoting generational rebellion and driving out the White middle class in favor of the Brown immigrants.

      You guessed it!!!

      • BackRowHeckler September 14, 2020 at 2:22 pm #

        JAZ I just filled my truck up with gas $2.11 per gallon.

        • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 5:27 pm #

          As I said, the price point is unaffected because the down slide in demand, Covid, matches the down slide in supply. So far!

          Arizona 2.35 /gallon

        • Iananna September 15, 2020 at 8:39 am #

          What range does a full tank allow with consumption @10-15 miles per gallon?
          Less than a 1,000 miles at best.

        • RocketDoc September 15, 2020 at 3:45 pm #

          It’s $1.85 in Alabama. I have a Roosevelt dime from 1964 worth $2.25. Why money is not worth more–I don’t know—-

    • feralandroid September 14, 2020 at 11:33 am #

      Art Berman had a great blog post last week about oil and the economy.

      https://www.artberman.com/2020/09/03/stop-expecting-oil-and-the-economy-to-recover/

      • DrTomSchmidt September 14, 2020 at 10:23 pm #

        Thanks for that link. Depressing, but best to know what’s coming.

        It’s not good.

    • tahoe1780 September 14, 2020 at 11:41 am #

      U.S. Oil production predicted to fall to 5 MBD from 13 by this time next year.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANR_Eu6yPtk&feature=youtu.be

      That would do it.

      • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 5:28 pm #

        If so, back to SA for our oil.

        • Kim September 14, 2020 at 7:42 pm #

          “If so, back to SA for our oil.”

          But how would the US pay for the oil? The dollar may not be so welcome once MMT prints it out to oblivion.

          And SA oil is not as cheap as shale oil. SA needs $85/barrel to maintain its current budget and reserves. Can the USA be prosperous on expensive oil?

  6. Pucker September 14, 2020 at 10:19 am #

    Bloomberg is going to spend $100 million bucks to defeat Trump in Florida.

    What a weird political system….

    I think that typically spending a lot of money on TV ads alone can bump a political candidate’s standing in the polls so Bloomberg could probably give Florida and the election to Biden? How can this be legal?

    Bloomberg used to send me ads during the Democratic primary asking me to give him $5 bucks. Bloomberg is a big billionaire with close ties to the Chinese Communist Party. Totally insane….

    • Rodster September 14, 2020 at 10:24 am #

      You do that want you are a corrupt Empire on its way out. It’s just a sign of the times and business as usual but in order to pull it off you have to make your populace/plebs dumb as fucks. Mission accomplished because that’s what we have today when people believe the Covid 19 bullshit as well as the BLM nonsense.

      Pit one group against another = divide and conquer.

      • Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 10:30 am #

        I still can’t get over the numbers. Latest numbers show approx. 10k and 2k dead in the US and UK, respectively — out of millions of “positive” tests. And, ofc, the creator of the test has informed us that the test was never designed to be used for COVID.

        This is a hoax for the ages.

        • Mostly Disagreeable September 14, 2020 at 10:44 am #

          Let’s call it Osama bin Covid.

        • thirdcoastlegend September 14, 2020 at 11:25 am #

          You can thank the useless US educational system that has rendered 95% of the past 2 or 3 generations scientifically and mathematically illiterate.

          • Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 11:38 am #

            TBH, I think the inability to critically think and understand how to parse the propaganda is far more significant.

            That Guardian piece I posted a few entries back is a great example of the sort of framing and layout-based trickery that professional propagandists employ to refocus attention onto the lie, or to shape a narrative.

            All the info. one would need to arrive at the approx. 2k death count was actually in the article, but the article was written in such a way as to get the reader to focus on total deaths including pre-existing conditions. The actual number for COVID alone was never even printed, and required the reader to do some math using the other figures they provided.

            That is why the CDC report was so damaging and had the McMedia hacks in an uproar. They printed the actual tally for COVID without pre-existing conditions. A big no-no!

          • Rodster September 14, 2020 at 12:11 pm #

            “TBH, I think the inability to critically think and understand how to parse the propaganda is far more significant.”

            The problem is the Plebs/Dumb Fucks are purposely being LIED to by the organizations they look to for honesty and truth. Most people just want to work, buy stuff, eat, watch sports and make babies. So they leave it to the Media to do the work for them. Instead they are lied to via misinformation, disinformation and propaganda.

            Okay, I just described and validated “dumb fucks”.

          • oswegatchie September 14, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

            Work, buy stuff, eat, watch sports, and make babies. You just listed to perfect recipe for a society not long for this planet.

          • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 1:47 pm #

            Yes Rodster, the average person cannot be deeply educated and is utterly dependent on the good will of the Elite and their mandarins. Such good will evaporated a long time ago.

            A mediation: Know how dumb the average guy is (IQ 100)? By definition, half of the population is even dumber. And that’s just among Whites. Other groups? Much worse.

          • Kim September 14, 2020 at 7:56 pm #

            People are smart enugh to know when they feel threatened:

            https://freebeacon.com/2020-election/swing-states-see-gun-sales-boon-activists-look-to-capitalize/

            Former mechanic Shawn Shriver bought a storefront about an hour outside Pittsburgh years ago. He created a 400-square-foot gun shop that he runs with his wife. They sell guns, ammo, and holsters to their neighbors. They normally carry about 150 pistols on a regular day. But there haven’t been many regular days since the onset of the coronavirus pandemic in March, as well as the public unrest that emerged in June.

            “I’ve got like three pistols in this store,” he said on Wednesday. “That’s it.”

            A similar story has played out in many gun stores across the country in recent months. Shriver’s experience may be more relevant to understanding the electoral implications of the recent riot-inspired gun-sales spike because of where it’s happening: a small town at the southwest tip of a swing state that could play a key role in electing the next president of the United States.

            “After COVID hit we sold out of ammo,” Shriver said. “And then they started with the protesting, and a lot more guns started going off the shelves.”

            Pennsylvania is not the only bellwether state where this is happening.

            A broader look at monthly sales data, as measured by FBI background checks, confirms swing state voters’ eagerness to arm themselves in 2020. The nine states at the epicenter of the presidential race between President Donald Trump and former vice president Joe Biden each saw historic seasonally adjusted gun sales in June—larger in all cases than the record-setting sales of March—a sign of surging demand for firearms in the wake of rioting and protests that have turned violent.

        • Rodster September 14, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

          “This is a hoax for the ages.”

          No shit. I’m just beside myself thinking of all the athletes around the world who have died after testing positive for Covid 19 and actually dying from and NOT with Covid 19. Let’s have a count on one hand please.

          Jim: If you’re reading this, thank you for not censoring our expression of speech. Kudos to you sir.

      • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 10:57 am #

        If folks, all folks, had just mitigated, from the beginning, the crud would be past tense. Workplaces and play places would be safe, HVAC systems would be updated, the economy would have had a short burp and already recovered.

        Both sides are at fault on this one. Trump for downplaying the crud and minimizing mitigation, the Dems for horribly playing up the effects to crush the economy to beat Trump. The Dems should be lined up and shot for this self-aggrandizing move. The combination of the two allowed the crud to blow out of proportion and shows the rest of the world that the two party balance of power model of the USA does not work very well after all.

        In the meantime, the lack of discipline by the American people, especially young ones and school boards, has destroyed the economy, and looks like another surge is coming.

        • Rodster September 14, 2020 at 12:03 pm #

          “the Dems for horribly playing up the effects to crush the economy to beat Trump.”

          That along with the BLM chaos is one for the ages. But again, that’s what happens when an Empire is dying. No one in charge gives a shit as long as they get what they want either by “hook or by crook”.

        • Kim September 14, 2020 at 7:52 pm #

          JohnAZ

          “If folks, all folks, had just mitigated, from the beginning, the crud would be past tense.”

          But John, “mitigate” what? It was a fraud, a hoax, a beat-up right from the start.

          Median age of death? 72 with serious co-morbidities. Why should people on the average make any kind of special arrangements for something so clearly not a threat to them?

        • sophia September 14, 2020 at 8:13 pm #

          John,

          You can’t hide from a virus nor make it go away with stricter isolation. It’s a mistake to think that if only we had done just a little different, all would be well. Not so. We have to live with this virus, and trying to run from it only increases the death toll by psychological and financial ruin. Sweden is doing very well.

      • Rodster September 14, 2020 at 5:52 pm #

        Que up Dire Straits: “I want My M-Vaccine”

        “US Trials For AstraZeneca COVID-19 Vaccine On Hold Amid Probe Into “Serious Side Effect””

        https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-trials-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-hold-amid-probe-serious-side-effect

        I bet Anthony Fauci, his wife or Bill Gates aren’t on the trial lists.

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 10:47 am #

      Florida goes for Trump because of Cuban ex-pats. They know what socialism is all about and want no part of it.

      Imagine what they feel when the Progs praise Castro because of the lovely health care system Cuba has. The most backward country in the Western Hemisphere is no prize to them.

  7. Pucker September 14, 2020 at 10:21 am #

    American Stupidity….

    Freak Show….

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/09/14/the-american-colosseum/

    • Rodster September 14, 2020 at 10:26 am #

      “When you’re born into this world, you’re given a ticket to the freak show. If you’re born in America you get a front row seat.”

      – George Carlin

      • oswegatchie September 14, 2020 at 1:12 pm #

        Classic! Wish he were here with us now. We need him more than ever to lead us!

  8. DrTomSchmidt September 14, 2020 at 10:24 am #

    I long assumed that the climate change urgency was lipstick on a pig: elites KNEW that life was going to get nastier, more brutish, and shorter for people who used cheap energy to keep them and their economy going. Rather than level with people about the fact that we would be cutting carbon emissions because we couldn’t afford the carbon sources, they tried to spin it as a positive sacrifice to save the planet. Not the worst of ideas, but they couldn’t stop flying private jets to Davos, showing that carbon wasn’t the problem but the price of it was.

    We never rebuilt the railroads, but we did save a lot of rights of way in rail trails. Thankfully. If we are going to be able to transport enough food around this continent, we are going to need those rights of way back again.

    • Rodster September 14, 2020 at 10:28 am #

      I could be mistaken and will accept to be corrupt but I am under the impression that the Military are the largest consumers of energy. If so, no wonder they get a $1T handout from the Govt each year.

  9. redrock September 14, 2020 at 10:25 am #

    I should have kept that bag of meth I found while mowing my yard and used it instead of flushing it down the toilet. It might have helped me understand the insanity of America in 2020.

  10. Ishabaka September 14, 2020 at 10:33 am #

    “Stop the hammering!” – Lawrence O’Donnell.

  11. malthuss September 14, 2020 at 10:43 am #

    Covid 19 aka Corona Virus is a fraud, CDC admits 6% fatality on the 150K + who died only had CV.

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 11:08 am #

      The six percent number is meaningless. Covid wiped out 150K of the population in the health conditions that exist today. Like saying the Plague only killed 5% of Europe by itself, not the one third that it did kill.

      Cherry picking at its best. The CDC data means nothing to the families that lost folks with co-morbidities. Today, if the third surge is coming, the same percentage of folks are going to die. I could care less that six percent do not have co-morbidities.

      • Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 11:28 am #

        Just pack it in already.

        How you are not ashamed to post such misleading nonsense is beyond comprehension.

      • Mostly Disagreeable September 14, 2020 at 11:29 am #

        No matter how scientifically derived certain observations are, they induce a gut check of personal values. The problem is this gut check does not scale well. Expect a lot of similar observations to affect how much harm can be tolerated if and when a vaccine is available.

      • JackStraw September 14, 2020 at 11:37 am #

        So now the CDC is anti-science to you.

        The data clearly shows the whole covid virus to be a hoax at the worst, and an unbelievable overreaction at the least.

        People die. Stop thinking like a kindergartner and grow up.

        • butter56 September 14, 2020 at 2:51 pm #

          I just had a friend die from it. That didnt seem like a hoax.

          • Q. Shtik September 14, 2020 at 3:33 pm #

            I just had a friend die from it. – butter

            =========

            Did he have any comorbidities? Heart bypass surgery, diabetes, etc.?

          • UN OUT OF USA September 14, 2020 at 4:52 pm #

            FROM it or WITH it? Huge difference.

          • benr September 14, 2020 at 7:55 pm #

            @UN OUT OF USA
            September 14, 2020 at 4:52 pm #
            FROM it or WITH it? Huge difference.

            See that is the problem the reporting mechanisms have been heavily invested in fraud.
            Funding was weighted towards everything getting a Covid inflated pay off.

          • Kim September 14, 2020 at 8:03 pm #

            @ butter65

            73 years old and a BMI of 30 perhaps?

            Close the kindergartens!

            Close the churches!

            Close the gyms!

            Everyone stand six feet apart!

            Really? We are now that stupid?

        • Q. Shtik September 15, 2020 at 1:43 am #

          People die. – JackStraw

          ======

          As I understand it, something like 40% of all the Covid deaths happen among old people in nursing homes. They have lived long lives and they are walking time bombs of co-morbidity. This is how it is when you get old. It’s not like they can’t wait to wake up the next morning to play canasta against table 6.

      • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 1:11 pm #

        Fauci has thrown off his mask and come out as a full fledged Globalist and devotee of the Great Reset. In Cell journal, he gives a vision of the future of mankind ruled by Medical Bureaucrat who attempt to placate the anger of the Earth by restricting humans. In other words, he sees himself and his conferees as High Priests in a Mystery Cult.

        Washington Times:

        Here’s an example of why to worry: “[I]n looking at the recent spate of deadly emergencies [avian influenza, MERS, COVID-19] … we must now ask whether human behaviors that perturb the human-microbial status quo have reached a tipping point that forecasts the inevitability of an acceleration of disease emergencies,” Fauci and Morens wrote.

        They go on to ponder the land-use and human activities that have perhaps contributed to these “disease emergencies” — like forestry burns, over-fishing, urban crowding, the gathering of fans at sporting events, and human relocations around the globe. Like, almost everything humans do.

        And then they conclude this: “Living in greater harmony with nature will require changes in human behavior as well as other radical changes that may take decades to achieve: rebuilding the infrastructures of human existence, from cities to homes to workplaces, to water and sewer systems, to recreational and gatherings venues.”

        SV: Trump has quietly kicked him to the curb. As always the question is, why did he wait so long? Trump seems to go thru long periods of bizarre inactivity punctuated by short periods of correct and intelligent action. It simply isn’t enough.

        • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 2:34 pm #

          Jesuit. That Fauci. He of the AZT scandal.

        • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 5:34 pm #

          I hear you, he seems to try to trust his enemies.

          ???? After four years you would think he would learn to trust no one in the Deep State.

        • sophia September 14, 2020 at 8:23 pm #

          Sredni,

          In other words, climate scare didn’t work, so now they have to pretend that the new world order that requires squelching human life is due to a cold virus.

      • sophia September 14, 2020 at 8:20 pm #

        John,

        The second wave is nonsense. If there is a 3rd (2nd) wave this winter it will be in the normal time for colds and flus, not summer. The 2nd wave will almost certainly be milder than the first, as that is the usual way of such things. And besides, we know how to treat it now.

    • elysianfield September 14, 2020 at 11:47 am #

      Malthuss,
      That “fraud” seemingly is perpetrated by almost every country on Earth…

      Whomsoever got the assembled nations of the world to buy into the fraud and destroy their respective economies and cultures should be running for office somewhere…a great leader, no doubt…I’d vote for him.

      • Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 1:22 pm #

        Put on your purple tie or pantsuit, and let’s get this party started.

      • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 1:54 pm #

        I’m still struggling to deal with this. I’m had no idea the Globalist Agenda had this kind of reach – even into Israel (2nd lockdown commenced), Russia, and India. I thought Men like Netanyahu, Putin, and Modi could and would defend their people against this. I was wrong.

        My brother was saying that Putin’s early vaccine may be a fire wall (a controlled fire against a big fire) against the Globalist Takeover. In any case, he didn’t feel able to just deny them straight up. Obviously Trump didn’t either even if he knows it’s just crap. Thank God that at least the CDC is now under a Trump guy. Why did he wait? Why did he wait? Why did he wait?

        • Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 2:02 pm #

          Good point about the CDC; I had not seen that.

          The transparency in the recent COVID report that had the McMedia frothing now makes quite a bit more sense.

        • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 2:35 pm #

          You mentioned even the hejiraj? to Mecca was cancelled.

          • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 2:48 pm #

            Limited to about 10,000 practicing social distancing as opposed to the usual millions.

            I’m also amazed by that. Bin Ladin was against the New World Order takeover of Sunni Islam. He knew the House of Saud was corrupted.

        • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 5:35 pm #

          ????

        • sophia September 14, 2020 at 8:26 pm #

          Sredni,

          I am also surprised and disappointed in Putin and Modi. India can’t afford this nonsense, and does it even have much of a covid problem? Hydroxy is widely available there.

          • Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 10:43 pm #

            Yes, one expects more from National Socialists.

      • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

        Sweden, Japan, are they suckers like Newsom expects many millions to be? While his winery is open,

        pssss..rumor is governors are being paid off.

  12. hmuller September 14, 2020 at 10:45 am #

    So many factors are tearing apart our country and our world – both man-made and increasingly natural disasters.

    Ready for a wild card to be thrown on the table? Religious Jews (some at least) stand ready to proclaim their Messiah’s arrival. This could be Sabbatai Zevi and the crisis of 1660 all over again.

    https://www.israeltoday.co.il/read/israeli-rabbi-says-hes-already-holding-meetings-with-messiah/

    Israeli Rabbi Says He’s Already Holding Meetings With Messiah

    “A recent interview on Israeli radio again featured prominent rabbis explaining that the Messiah is just about to reveal himself.

    Rabbi Yaakov Zisholtz on Sunday told religious broadcaster Radio 2000 that Rabbi Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky recently told him that he (Kanievsky) is already in direct contact with the Messiah.

    To understand why religious Jews are taking this seriously, it’s important to know that Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky is considered one of the two or three top rabbis of the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community in Israel….

    Decades ago, Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri, one of modern Israel’s most revered sages, as well as the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, both predicted that Benjamin Netanyahu would be the State of Israel’s last prime minister prior to the Messianic Age. A great many, if not most of the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel continue to believe that to be true.”

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 11:12 am #

      I remember that the re-establishment of the Jewish temple on Temple Mount is a precursor for the Rapture and the Final Days. Is this “messiah” the return of Jesus or the advent of the Anti-Christ?

      • hmuller September 14, 2020 at 12:32 pm #

        Yes, according to Christian doctrine, there needs to be a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem for the Anti-Christ to use.

        The timing of the rapture is debatable. Most American Christians hope for an early one so they don’t have to suffer much. But look at history and even the contemporary world. Have Christians been spared suffering, torture, and death at the hands of satanic driven rulers? No. Yet we expect the easy path almost as an American right.

        • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 1:14 pm #

          And that the Antichrist would sit in the Temple. Kaduri seemed to say that Christ had been the Messiah, which was wildly unpopular to say the least. But he said the Jews would get one more chance – and yes, this coming Christ will be the Antichrist. I

    • Mostly Disagreeable September 14, 2020 at 11:18 am #

      Was the red heifer born in Israel in 2018 declared “unblemished” and therefore a sign of the end times?

      • hmuller September 14, 2020 at 11:44 am #

        Below is a YouTube video from AUG 29,2020. The heifer turned 2 yrs old and is ready for slaughter and burning, if and when, the rabbi’s say it is unblemished. So the issue is unresolved.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP3TFSo6k-4

        • Mostly Disagreeable September 14, 2020 at 11:47 am #

          Maybe the US election is a red heifer too.

          • hmuller September 14, 2020 at 1:37 pm #

            To me the hair looks more light brown than red. But who am I to critique a lady’s hair. Unless it’s Nancy Pelosi sneaking around the illegal, seedy world of underground hair care.

          • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

            you mean herring?

      • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 1:17 pm #

        The Sioux report that the White Buffalo Calf was born some years ago. They are ahead it the Calf race.

        • hmuller September 14, 2020 at 1:31 pm #

          Is this what we’ve come to? Putting our faith in bovine redeemers. LOL.

          • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 1:57 pm #

            Well it’s said that the very Fire of Heaven used to come down and take the Sacrifices in the Temple (the big ones anyway). But if the Temple is rebuilt and the Sacrifices recommenced, it’s all going to be a huge dud. At least until the False Messiah sits himself down. Then there should be some real action….

          • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

            triple LOL

          • hmuller September 14, 2020 at 3:06 pm #

            How will the Anti-Christ handle all those PETA people demonstrating against animal sacrifice? The way Trump should have handled Antifa by now.

            By the way, some have speculated that the Anti-Christ is none other than – drum roll please – Jared Kushner. I know it’s like expecting Superman but getting that cheesy Green Arrow, who is one step up from a Las Vegas act.

            Despite picking out the address 666 5th Avenue for his family’s building, Kushner lacks gravitas. I’ll bet he can’t summon a demon worth a shit and can barely summon an Uber driver. https://kushner.com/project/666-fifth-avenue/

          • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 3:43 pm #

            Yes, we demand a better Anti-Christ than the geek. But again, he is a very intelligent fellow whose life makes sense. His religion and politics are working together for him and his people. And he uses his position to advance that agenda. Non-Jews lost that organic cultural integrity long ago.

            Not a fan of course. Tucker said his contempt for White Americans is overt, telling Trump that he already has the trailer parks and should focus on minorities. Does he even want Trump to win?

        • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

          circa 1996

    • elysianfield September 14, 2020 at 11:54 am #

      hmuller,
      We need Mofo to parse this issue…he should be given a dispensation by our Host to do so.

      “Rabbi Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky recently told him that he (Kanievsky) is already in direct contact with the Messiah.”

      But where is he? The Sun? On Venus? Uranus?

      We, many years ago, and one evangelical fraud or another, state that he spoke to the Deity and was threatened with death if he did not come up with several milliions of dollars.

      Absolutely no respect here.

      • hmuller September 14, 2020 at 12:12 pm #

        The talks are face to face, on earth, in Israel, between flesh and blood persons. So if you hear ominous rumblings from Uranus, it’s not the Messiah.

        As for Mofo, I missed the specific kerfuffle for which he was banned. But I won’t miss his vile and insulting persona.

        • BackRowHeckler September 14, 2020 at 2:58 pm #

          Much of that was just hyperbole, hmuller. In earlier iterations of Akfomo — Mika for one — there was very little of the ‘vile and insulting persona’ as you put it, evident.

          Not to speak for the man, but I think he was responding to the anti Israel posts that sometime appear in this comments section. Akfomo is a patriot. And if you looked past the anti Vatican rants, which I didn’t take seriously, he had a lot of interesting things to say. I’d like to see Akfomo back here. Surprisingly, he engaged Janos in conversations that featured intelligent and engaging comments from both parties.

          Brh

  13. Mostly Disagreeable September 14, 2020 at 10:58 am #

    The WaPo article on the Transition Integrity Project laid out the scenarios examined. The one scenario omitted was a decisive Trump win. It was unthinkable, taboo, because if the win is decisive they intend to behave as if it were not. The Project is a war plan and publicity for it is propaganda to soften the target: the lower orders of the ruling class with some shred of conscience left.

  14. tom clark September 14, 2020 at 11:09 am #

    In the midst of a confluence of crises, there’s always good folk music. Thank you, Doc Watson.

  15. getsome September 14, 2020 at 11:11 am #

    I’ve read in multiple articles of the coming civil war. Really? Does anyone know how difficult it is logistically to pursue any large type activity for anything but a short duration? How about training, planning when, where and how many will be needed to secure a target. A very small segment of society is acting out and this is extrapolated to civil war. The human ape is a SOCIAL creature and as such will endeavor to get along with other members of the tribe. Troublemakers will be dealt with in due time, probably in an escalation of violence as needed to deter any further antisocial behavior. Stay calm and THINK before acting. As always practice, practice and mentally walk thru bad juju scenarios. Did I mention practice?

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 11:15 am #

      Most civil wars are fought between small groups of the population. What it takes is leadership of the rebelling folks into a cause, then watch out.

      Funniest thing here, the least likely unifier and leader is Joe Biden. Who is the real number one person? Definitely not Harris.

      • sophia September 14, 2020 at 8:35 pm #

        John,

        I don’t know who but Obama is in high command.

    • thirdcoastlegend September 14, 2020 at 11:28 am #

      The DNC-CCP media organs are popping off about civil war because they are trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.

      Unfortunately, it appears that their efforts are meeting with some success.

      • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 1:19 pm #

        You all are forgetting about Obama’s call for an army. And about the Black Revolutionaries who called for War in the 60’s. Think they forgot all about that? Even if you all did?

        • benr September 14, 2020 at 3:03 pm #

          There was a very short Obama Youf movement but its exposure on Endgame from infowars killed it before it could really get beyond one obese platoon of morons.

  16. 100th Avatar September 14, 2020 at 11:43 am #

    “The orgy of political hysteria, insane thinking, and violence is a psychotic reaction to the collapsing techno-industrial economy — a feature of it, actually.”

    A failure of population control.
    When societies become too large, and when the wealth disparity between populations within that society become too broad, people become unmanageable and ungovernable.

    It is functionally impossible to police and oversee all the crime from the rampant financial chicanery and political corruption to the street violence and petty crimes of desperation. It also becomes impossible to divorce yourself from the former. The oligarchy, plutocracy, the FANGtocracy, corporatocracy will not disappear. It will continue to exert control over the state with its tendrils of bureaucrats/former employees, and bought politicians.

    Yet they admit the failure of the police, its inadequacies, and the need for a new system of policing and security. However, they do not show their cards, what is waiting too take over: authoritarian powers of the state that will force members of their society to live within the boundaries it sets. It won’t be from camps and round-ups and detentions. It will be by making your existence in their world an impossibility without compliance. And there will be no other world but theirs.

    These systems already exists in extreme form in China, to mild forms in Spain and Sweden and the UK and other EU states. Where life on the wrong side of the authoritarians is expensive, exhaustive, impossible, and futile.

    One can blame oil, energy, financial fraud, etc., but it all boils down unwieldy large populations and the insurmountable rapacity of the few. They will still get theirs, and you will get what you feel you deserve, after electing them in, good and hard

    • SpeedyBB September 17, 2020 at 9:03 am #

      Pretty insightful appraisal, alas.

      But the cogdis is strong. Not to mention the sunk cost fallacy. (My, the stuff you learn from the CFN comments section.)

      The PRC is taking a very measured, long look at underpopulated land masses to the south. Australia, New Zealand – even Indonesia, where the pop is bunched up pretty much on Java / Bali. Lebensraum through the debt trap. Originating, ironically enough, with Uncle’s “money”.

      It will be double-down ironic if recent predictions about pop-collapse around mid-century come to pass.

  17. xxzzy999 September 14, 2020 at 11:47 am #

    The Democrat Party has become the (Socialist Identity Party) and promise Progressive fantasies, (“The Carrot”), i.e. Bernie’s unsustainable Socialist programs to further their evolving Marxist/Maoist ideology (“The Stick”). Maoist methods (Cancel Culture) are used to erase America’s Customs, Culture, History, and Established Ideas in their strategy to destroy America’s current form of government based on the Founding Father’s Constitutional blueprint. Their ultimate goal is to install a Totalitarian atheistic government that starts out as a form of corrupt and unworkable Socialism.

    America endured 8 years of Obama’s criminal political assault and his failed coup called (RussiaGate) to overthrow President Trump. RussiaGate was a conspiracy to overthrow a sitting president carried out by a coordinated effort of high-ranking government employees across many agencies, who knew exactly what they were doing. Americans are starting to understand how the Obama administration weaponized the DOJ, FBI, CIA and IRS to go after his political opponents, and in doing so, he trampled the Constitution and fueled the violent overthrow of cultural norms. America, in her glorious history, has never experienced anything in politics as corrupt as Obama’s RussiaGate. Nixon’s WaterGate political crimes look like an overdue library book by comparison.

    Read “The Permanent Coup”, by: Lee Smith to fully understand the scope and depth of Obama’s RussiaGate crimes. Try the “Audible” version.

    • redrock September 14, 2020 at 12:51 pm #

      A firing squad is in order. I ponder how corrupt the entire political system is. Justice will be denied once again. The wheels of it have ground to a halt.

    • shox September 16, 2020 at 10:57 am #

      Agreed. And I would like to make an addition: Wherever the blues have entrenched themselves – California and New York being the most vivid examples – they have weaponized mass immigration to void the votes of the existing Americans in the state who are still steeped in American values. It’s much easier to import millions of near-illiterates who will become dependent on welfare and then vote for you than to make the effort to appeal to the sophisticated needs and expectations of traditional Americans. I gained much more clarity about this sinister, cynical and reprehensible tactic from reading Michael Anton’s recent book “The Stakes: America at the Point of No Return.” Anton was the author of the 2016 essay “The Flight 93 Election,” which argued that America was facing its United Flight 93 moment, where voters either rush the cockpit and overwhelm the hijackers (the Democrats and the vast mid-level bureaucracy which leans left) or else face certain death as this cult follows its delusions to the very end and altogether destroys America, its economy and its character and spirit.

      They are weaponizing demographics to overpower anyone who would dissent against them, and in so doing ensuring that their states vote for them in perpetuity. Hence the ceaseless cry for “diversity” ie fewer white people with fiercely individualistic Christian/European/American values and more people with opposing values who will cower to their will. The great flaw with this program is that it is extremely costly. It works in NY and CA because a lot of wealth is generated in those states by companies and organizations who won’t leave and have a vested interest in cheapening the labour pool by importing immigrants. But the program is a net sink of wealth. It is a giant pet-project which does not promote the generation of wealth and like a parasite will ultimately suck its host dry.

      Ultimately, their movement HAS to collapse for a whole host of reasons. I love the way Jordan Peterson puts it – there is a certain logic to Marxism/Leninism which unfolds over time and always concludes, without fail, at the destruction of society. Igor Shafarevic said the same thing in his book “The Socialist Phenomenon,” but attributes the movement’s behavior to a subconscious death wish – a desire to destroy civilization and humanity altogether.

    • HapMan September 18, 2020 at 12:13 am #

      “RussiaGate”

      One indictment, of a low-level FBI lawyer, by Barr’s DOJ.

  18. Sosodef September 14, 2020 at 12:11 pm #

    BLM is a total disgrace. They now terrorize cities with every police involved POC death based on rage-curated social media clips. As soon as the real evidence is available, as far as I can tell, every single use of force is necessary. An honest conversation about race would mean admitting that communities with a lot of criminals will inevitably have cops resorting to force and frankly the streets are safer when it happens. The cops are thanklessly risking their lives in a hostile environment to keep innocent people safe and if more good people don’t appreciate it, they’ll leave, and boy will they be missed. Every city in the US will be a no-go zone. BLM is the dumbest movement ever.

    • thirdcoastlegend September 14, 2020 at 12:30 pm #

      I watched the body cam footage from Lancaster.

      The shooting looked completely justified.

      The officer was lucky not to have been stabbed with the assailant’s large survival knife.

      • Sosodef September 14, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

        Exactly- Besides POTUS, why can’t 1 single person in government or media condemn BLM idiocy? Is it because Trump does so objectivity is irrelevant? Or because it involves blacks so it’s unassailable? Why can’t Brian Williams say in his weird sentence structure (3/4 headshot), “A steamier turd of a movement the world has never seen.”

    • redrock September 14, 2020 at 12:52 pm #

      The intelligence quotient of BLM is slightly below their shoe size.

  19. scoubidou123 September 14, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

    Regarding the riots about the hispanic man in Lancaster:

    Ricardo Munoz, who was shot & killed by a cop yesterday after charging at him with a knife, was arrested last year for stabbing four people

    https://www.pennlive.com/news/2019/03/man-stabbed-4-people-including-teen-after-fight-police.html

    • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 2:22 pm #

      THANKS SKOOBY

    • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 2:25 pm #

      He looks mulatto, not ‘mexican.’

  20. HappyMotorist September 14, 2020 at 12:27 pm #

    Marylin Manson forsees 2020 in 1998.

    https://youtu.be/5R682M3ZEyk

  21. venuspluto67 September 14, 2020 at 12:37 pm #

    Well, I suppose this scenario you outline could happen. We’re living in the Age Of Teh Crazee now ever since 2016, after all, so I don’t rule anything out. But you sound way too confident about what really comes across as some prognostication you read on some fringe websites on the Internet. Even if this does come to pass, I won’t be able help but laugh at the spectacle of Republicans roaring in butthurt over the whole mess when Republicans have been stealing elections ever since 2000, and they’ve been able to get away with it on account of being the party more favored by money-power.

    The problem this time, however, is that country’s elites are very divided over this Donald J. Trump character, and more than a few one-percenters would like to go back to having a Bill Clinton/ Barack Obama nice and polite smiley-face on the front of our dying capitalist empire. The problem is, they’ve chosen someone even further down the road of senile dementia than Trump to be that front-man. Yes, I suppose Kamala Harris will be doing the real nuts-and-bolts work of “presidenting”, but it’s still not a good look, and in politics, perception is 90% of the game.

    I suppose where the elites behind the Democratic Party machine might be in for an unpleasant surprise, is in all the people who are expected to vote Democratic who realize this and don’t really want to go along with the ridiculous game anymore. “We are totally and absolutely entitled to your vote no matter how much we suck” as a message is not a good strategy for winning elections.

    A case in point of this is the way the Democrats are using pitifully transparent political shenanigans to keep the Green Party off the ballot in Wisconsin and other states. Do those fucking morons really think that anybody smart enough to break the mind-control grip and vote Green will be bullied into voting for Biden and Harris with these games? Write-in voting is still a thing, I hope they know!

    I know this is running way too long already, but I want to wrap it up by saying that I do hold Donald Trump somewhat responsible for how woefully unprepared this country was for dealing with the pandemic. He did deliberately dismantle his predecessor’s pandemic preparedness plan for no especially good reason, after all.

    But the deeper reason Covid (not “the Wuhan Virus” or “the China Virus” as the Trumpster-fires have taken to calling it lately) caught us so flat-footed was very much on account of how economic neoliberalism hollowed out the country’s resilience and adaptability in the name of efficiency in generating very short short-term profits over everything else. I see Donald Trump as nothing but a very obnoxious culmination of this forty-year trend. The Trump Dementia crowd are just a bunch of yupsters and social-justice types who backed economic neo-liberalism either actively or passively and just don’t want to look in the mirror now that the proverbial chickens are coming home to roost. Bwuck-bwuck-bwuck, buh-bwuckit! 😀

    • Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 1:26 pm #

      The neoliberals (Obama and co.) and the closely affliated neoconservatives (Bloody Bill Kristol and co.) are the forces opposing Trump.

      You may return when you have finished your homework.

      • venuspluto67 September 14, 2020 at 1:49 pm #

        I stand by my contention that Trumpism is a culmination and consequence of neo-lib/ neo-con politics. His populism is 100% fake. Quite a few populist-conservatives say that Trump is being propped up by the establishment as a faux populist in order to discredit more genuine schools of populism.

        • Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 1:59 pm #

          Then make an argument here and now.

          He has done some incredible things, which I am happy to discuss with you.

          But we need an argument first.

        • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 2:03 pm #

          No, he didn’t star any wars – that’s in contradiction to the Neo-Conservatism/Liberalism. Many of his Zionist supporters are no doubt not please with him about this. No one can doubt his affection for Israel, but he didn’t just give in to them like the Bushes did.

          Where did the Peace Movement go to btw? Seems to have disappeared completely once the Democrats become Neo Warmongers. So how sincere was it ever? Obviously, not very.

          So you folks are the faux folks. Trump is a real populist for what it’s worth. Some good stuff. Some silly stuff. He didn’t deliver on a lot, but he did some things and tried on others.

          • BackRowHeckler September 14, 2020 at 2:34 pm #

            Code Pink is out there, calling Trump a ‘Warmonger’.

            To Code Pink anybody not named Gandhi is a warmonger.

          • Rupert September 14, 2020 at 4:58 pm #

            You’ve got the right of it.

            He’s venial and crass, he doesn’t understand the issues or conflicts we’re slated for nearly well enough, he doesn’t get much done…

            But he has the right enemies.

            Oh, Lord he has the right enemies. His existence has proved the ‘conspiracy theory’ tinfoil about the uniparty/permanent government in a way nobody has within my lifetime.

            It’s a shame he doesn’t have the power to so much as flick a lightswitch in the White House, but still. We now know how much ‘voting’ matters, at least, to our ‘betters’.

          • Kim September 14, 2020 at 8:23 pm #

            Atlantic readers are repulsed by Trump’s many similarities to Rodney Dangerfield.

            But most people liked Rodney Dangerfield.

          • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

            Atlantic readers watch their editor-in-chief get caught red-handed producing Fake Nooz, but continue to read The Atlantic.

            Dunces gonna dunce.

    • sophia September 14, 2020 at 8:47 pm #

      venuspluto,

      The complaint about politicians leaving their countries unprepared has been leveled in many countries in Europe as well. But do you have any details about this? What, specifically, were the items in the plan which would have changed the outcome?

  22. Wormies Bindabau September 14, 2020 at 12:40 pm #

    The West burns and the appalling ignoramus in chief thinks that raking the forest is the way to go.

    Just the latest attempt by this clown to deny the realities of climate change. Most countries that respect themselves enough to elect adults as their leaders are at least coming to terms with this.

    • redrock September 14, 2020 at 12:56 pm #

      You think a demented old man and a former prostitute are the answer?

      • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 2:25 pm #

        NO A 1000X NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

        • BackRowHeckler September 14, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

          Malthus where in LA were those deputies ambushed and shot? Near you? I know LA County is huge, as big as this State. What kind of neighborhood is it?

          Brh

    • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 1:23 pm #

      You people are burning down the forests as part of your campaign of terror.

      • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

        YOU TUBE— Ice Age Farmer.

    • BackRowHeckler September 14, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

      Yes it’s an Antifa/ISIS operation.

      • Kim September 14, 2020 at 8:32 pm #

        @ BRH

        The Antifa-ISIS accusation connection goes back at least to a book and a supposed FBI report from 2017.

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5018141/ISIS-connection-anarchists-revealed-Ed-Klein-book.htmlwas

        EXCLUSIVE: US left wing groups travelled to Germany for the G20 Summit last July to meet with Al qaeda and ISIS leaders and plot the destruction of President Trump, secret FBI investigation reveals.

        The part of this news report that I find hardest to believe is that the FBI had any interest in opposing these groups and their plans because they certainly are not interested in opposing Antifa and BLM terrorism today .

    • UN OUT OF USA September 14, 2020 at 5:13 pm #

      Actually, Worm, you’re the clown if you push the west coast fires on global warming/climate change nonsense. Why is this only occurring (every friggin year!) in CA? That ain’t global and what about all the people arrested for starting those fires??? The greenies in CA have been badmouthing clearing the forest floors of debris (FUEL) since the late 60’s when I was in college. Nice try, “next!”

    • sophia September 14, 2020 at 8:50 pm #

      Wormies,

      Several people have been caught in arson. We have to suppose that several were not caught. So did the climate drive them mad?

  23. RB September 14, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

    One of the best lines from a movie occurred in WORLD WAR Z. “Mother Nature is a serial killer.” In the west she is burning the place down killing untold numbers of animal life, destroying habitat for generations and demonstrating that in the 21st century, we cannot put out a damn fire and stop it from burning down an entire town. Take that humans! And, she rolls out an intriguing virus that in the span of weeks collapsed the largest economy in history. Ah, but we’ll defy scientific odds and produce an efficacious vaccine in record time. But, Mother will simply roll out another one and then another and there won’t be enough left to keep the machine running. The charade will go on though. Never worry. People will believe that things will be fixed. They better not discount how pissed Mother Nature really is.

    • cbeard September 15, 2020 at 4:12 pm #

      The Corona Virus didn’t destroy the economy. A bunch of idiots, fools, evil incarnate people, take your pick, destroyed the economy.

  24. amb September 14, 2020 at 12:57 pm #

    That isn’t the fundamental causality here. What it is, is the story of Earth… one person works hard to create something, another person comes along and destroys it. This is the pattern that we are locked into. Consider it a curse, only to be cured by the resolution of the human spirit and mind.

  25. gustafson.robert.22 September 14, 2020 at 12:59 pm #

    “Progressive” democrats, who should be town criers calling for real response to dangers jhk describes in The Long Emergency, are instead so far up Trump’s ass that he’ll probably win again. Epic failure of the left, story of 21st century so far.

  26. Robert White September 14, 2020 at 1:05 pm #

    Excellent piece of writing today, Jim. It’s longer than the weekly norm of a quick read of 3 minutes. Frankly, the length of this installment indicates much more investment in the end game for November.

    Some would argue that the lead is narrowing and people are getting antsy about probable outcome. I sincerely hope that you do not end up hating everyone on the ‘left’ when POTUS Trump gets trounced in the final analysis.

    P.S. You are an excellent tactician, Jim. It’s too bad you are not a committed Democratic Party voter IMHO.

    Cheers, Robert

    • amb September 14, 2020 at 1:39 pm #

      Ugh.

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 5:47 pm #

      Ha. Is there a single Liberal crier on this blog who doesn’t say that Trump is going to get beaten badly?. Anyone, no chances at all?

      Good. Keep thinking that way. The same as your predecessors did in 2016.

      • PeteAtomic September 14, 2020 at 6:23 pm #

        yep the exact same result has a good shot of happening.. It’s all about TV ratings for advert dollars.. so the MSM is saying whatever it takes to get viewers.

        If you are a democrat, you better take everything with a grain of salt. There is alot of time left, and we have some debates coming up soon that may just change the entire dynamic..

        • cbeard September 15, 2020 at 4:14 pm #

          The dynamics point to a landslide victory for Trump.

    • sophia September 14, 2020 at 8:55 pm #

      John,

      Parroting the nonsense that Trump might lose is actually part of their propaganda strategy, so that their base will think it is acceptable when they turn this nation into chaos and perhaps engage in an out and out coup after the election. They know good and well that they don’t stand any chance of winning at all. Zero. Not legitimately.

  27. Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 1:15 pm #

    Trump has challenged Biden to a 4-hour debate. Joe Rogan would potentially be the moderator.

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1305494491021836288

    Come on, Joe. You are fit as a fiddle, right?

    • thirdcoastlegend September 14, 2020 at 1:29 pm #

      That would be awesome, especially if Rogan smoked a bowl or took some massive bong hits right beforehand.

      What could be more 2020 than that?

      • Disaffected September 14, 2020 at 1:35 pm #

        Hell with Rogan. I’d like to see Biden lit up to see if it might make him coherent for a change. I think Trump would likely go manic paranoid under the influence.

      • PeteAtomic September 14, 2020 at 6:25 pm #

        Trump waxing philosophic about the Space Force while totally whacked on hard bud, would be the height of hilarity

    • PeteAtomic September 14, 2020 at 6:24 pm #

      you bet me to this post topic..

      It’d be totally awesome

  28. thirdcoastlegend September 14, 2020 at 1:31 pm #

    Don’t look now, but Western MSM has suddenly found a “refugee virologist” from Hong Kong that can explain exactly how CV19 is man-made and how it was created.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/rogue-chinese-virologist-joins-twitter-publishes-evidence-covid-19-created-lab

    I find the timing somewhat convenient, your mileage may vary.

    • Disaffected September 14, 2020 at 1:33 pm #

      Timing is always convenient. We’ll likely never know the truth of any of it.

  29. Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

    Meanwhile, The Climate appears to continue to set fires on the West Coast.

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1305484463422414848

    The Climate appears even angrier than before, moving on to molotov cocktails as its choice of ignition.

    • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 2:14 pm #

      We had a very learned. back to the Earth type poster named Tripp Ticket here some years ago. Permaculture Gardner, actually was trying to do it full time, etc. Yet even he fell into this “The Earth is angry” thing at times, despite his real scientific acumen. The Primitive is strong and with it, the sacrifice mentality. That is what Fauci and Co are attempting to invoke.

      In New Guinea, they would have a couple make love underneath a huge platform of logs. At the key moment, they would pull it down on them to crush them. Thus given to, the Earth would now give back. She thirsts, and only blood can satisfy her.

      Watch the movie, Harvest Home, based on the book of the same title.

      Solar Cults? Bigger sacrifices a la the Aztecs. High level paganism as in Europe and India left this stuff behind though. The Celts were still doing it but mostly for criminals when the Romans met them.

      • gustafson.robert.22 September 14, 2020 at 2:51 pm #

        suspicious of idea that “advanced” cultures progressed past this primitive angry earth superstition Srodny.

        Advanced cultures, industrial civilization itself, are instead extreme and imbalanced manifestations of the angry earth paradigm… The earth is hostile, an enemy. We must oppose it. In fact, it is worth sacrificing our entire ecosystem and future for a few years of dominance over this bloodthirsty enemy, our Earth.

        That’s an accurate picture of advanced cultures. The primitives were closer to a balanced, rational view of the planet.

        • Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 3:36 pm #

          Life is struggle and the attempt to dominate. The Strong triumph and the weak go under. We conquered other peoples but we never conquered our own nature – and thus succumbed to enemy propaganda from within our own nations.

          If primitives were so advanced, they would not have lusted after what we had to give them. Nor do they appreciate nature for the most part. One has to be separate (Above!) nature to appreciate nature. Thus minorities have no interest in sunsets, hiking, parks, etc for the most part.

          I disagree with your work but do agree with your conclusion to some extent. We need to live in balance with nature – and we can only do this by conquering our own inner nature first. I’ll admit some of the primitives may have had a vision of this. The American Indians may have had it – after they had hunted to extinction most of the large fauna of Ancient North America. They never laugh when an animal they have killed is dying. Instead they say a prayer for its spirit. Black Africans do laugh at dying animals though. Most Whites don’t laugh, but instead put their foot up on the carcass as great White Hunters for a photo. Some have taken to saying a prayer like the Indians do when they hunt for meat. This is good.

          Of course a “vision” is one thing, living up to it is a whole nother thing. The American Indians also lusted and lust after what the White Man produces. In this regard, only the Papuans of New Guinea are righteous. Instead of lusting and then spitting on us. They worship Americans as demigods and hope to get more “cargo” by so doing.

          • gustafson.robert.22 September 14, 2020 at 4:36 pm #

            agree that primitives were overall more unconscious than not of qualities in their cultures that “civilizations” have lacked/thrown out… and that this lack of (macro-environmental) consciousness is mostly a shared quality between primitive and “advanced” human cultural elements.

      • malthuss September 15, 2020 at 5:46 pm #

        TT also moved to Macon, with a female and 1-2 small children.
        His car was broken into a few times, saw a gal piss on the street, killed a wandering pit bull.
        I didnt see him post about his own foolishness in ‘trusting equality’
        and its consequences.

        –a lib mugged is then what?

        • Q. Shtik September 15, 2020 at 6:12 pm #

          saw a gal piss on the street, – malthuss

          ======

          As I recall Trip Ticket’s comment, he was out for a walk with his young daughter in a bad neighborhood (where they had bought a house for next to nothing) and a female ‘member of the community’ stepped just a foot or two off the sidewalk, lifted her dress, squatted a bit and took a dump. Trip said that was the moment he decided they had to move out.

    • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 2:27 pm #

      West, yes. West Canada, not so much.

  30. newworld September 14, 2020 at 2:07 pm #

    America goes out like Jonestown in a fury. The Covid has become evil farce, it’s all narrative now, go to any twitter thread full of comaniacs and you don’t know where ignorance and evil begin or end.

    I hope Biden goes full police state mask mandate, might as well light this candle.

    • thirdcoastlegend September 14, 2020 at 2:47 pm #

      Check out the lunacy happening in Victoria, Australia.

      That state appears to be the ground zero testbed for our exciting new NWO future.

      • Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 3:34 pm #

        Indeed. Everyone should watch what is coming out of Australia.

        • benr September 14, 2020 at 3:45 pm #

          Or the transplants from New Zealand.
          More proof the thinking like the tropical storms aka cyclones circulate in the wrong direction.

          • malthuss September 14, 2020 at 6:00 pm #

            transplants?

          • benr September 14, 2020 at 8:02 pm #

            @malthus

            Yes people that moved from one part of the world to another.
            Surfing term used for people who show up and start trying to take over stuff they have not worked towards.

  31. Pucker September 14, 2020 at 2:14 pm #

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  32. Pucker September 14, 2020 at 2:35 pm #

    What do you think about a new, Collapse, Long Emergency men’s cologne marketed under the brandname “Spock”?

    “Spock” – a new men’s fragrance for Desperate Times and Desperate Women.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Z8NU5ImK0

    • hmuller September 14, 2020 at 3:17 pm #

      You want to market a cologne named after a man who only got laid once every seven years?

      • Robert White September 14, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

        Spock also had to ask the Queen of Vulcan if he could get laid if I recall correctly. Remember he was supposed to be engaged to that
        two-timing tramp back on Vulcan, but she chose the the B actor instead, eh.

        Puck would know the episode where Spock had to dump his fiance in waiting on Vulcan and Tapow was referee for the annulment of plans.

        RW

  33. Pucker September 14, 2020 at 2:37 pm #

    Read Wolin’s “Democracy, Inc.”

    I suspect that the Constitution was hallowed out a long time ago.

    Join the NRA.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBNmecVtdU

  34. benr September 14, 2020 at 2:54 pm #

    Denial of reality 101.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-health-aide-alleges-broad-conspiracies-and-warns-of-armed-revolt/ar-BB191JIK?ocid=msedgntp

    Why do people think stuff will not happen here?
    Who would have suggested a bunch of nuts would burn down a bunch of cities with almost no response a decade ago and been not called a tin foil hatter?

  35. Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 3:25 pm #

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/13/school-under-fire-for-lesson-comparing-cops-to-kkk-slave-owners/

    First day back and this is what they’re given. School needs to be out forever.

    There were no KKK slave owners. The KKK arose after slavery in response to Black terror and the refusal of the Occupation Government to restore order.

  36. benr September 14, 2020 at 3:36 pm #

    Hurray for the UV lights our savior!
    Starting to see all sorts of UV light creators to clean up phones and other such things.

    https://www.phonesoap.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqfz6BRD8ARIsAIXQCf1jLUFKsPmhAOvbHsCsVOLC3cy1-ODGYr8TnCWYStcXk3NwDyD4pIsaAozMEALw_wcB

  37. benr September 14, 2020 at 3:37 pm #

    One gleaned from a local posting.

    Recently the Chula Vista Police Department ran an e-mail forum with the topic, “Community Policing.”

    One of the e-mail participants posed the following question:
    I would like to know how it is possible for police officers to continually harass people and get away with it.

    From the the law enforcement side, Sgt. Bennett, obviously a cop with a sense of humor replied:

    First of all, let me tell you this…it’s not easy. In Chula Vista, we average one cop for every 600 people. Only about 60% of those cops are on general duty (or what you might refer to as “patrol”) where we do most of our harassing. The rest are in non-harassing departments that do not allow them contact with the day-to-day innocents. At any given moment, only one-fifth of the 60% patrolers are on duty and available for harassing people while the rest are off duty. So roughly, one cop is responsible for harassing about 5,000 residents. When you toss in the commercial business and tourist locations that attract people from other areas, sometimes you have a situation where a single cop is responsible for harassing 10,000 or more people a day.

    Now, your average ten-hour shift runs 36,000 seconds long. This gives a cop one second to harass a person, and then only three-fourths of a second to eat a donut AND then find a new person to harass. This is not an easy task. To be honest, most cops are not up to this challenge day in and day out. It is just too tiring. What we do is utilize some tools to help us narrow down those people whom we can realistically harass.

    The tools available to us are as follows:

    PHONE: People will call us and point out things that cause us to focus on a person for special harassment. “My neighbor is beating his wife” is a code phrase used often. This means we’ll come out and give somebody some special harassment.

    Another popular one: “There’s a guy breaking into a house.” The harassment team is then put into action.

    CARS: We have special cops assigned to harass people who drive. They like to harass the drivers of fast cars, cars with no insurance or no driver’s licenses and the like. It’s lots of fun when you pick them out of traffic for nothing more obvious than running a red light. Sometimes you get to really heap on the harassment when you find they have drugs in the car, are drunk, or have an outstanding warrant on file.

    RUNNERS: Some people take off running just at the sight of a police officer. Nothing is quite as satisfying as running after them like a beagle on the scent of a bunny. When you catch them you can harass them for hours.

    STATUTES: When we don’t have PHONES or CARS and have nothing better to do, there are actually books that give us ideas for reasons to harass folks. They are called “Statutes”; Criminal Codes, Motor Vehicle Codes, etc. They all spell out all sorts of things for which you can really mess with people. After you read the statute, you can just drive around for a while until you find someone violating one of these listed offenses and harass them. Just last week I saw a guy trying to steal a car. Well, there’s this book we have that says that’s not allowed. That meant I got permission to harass this guy. It’s a really cool system that we’ve set up, and it works pretty well. We seem to have a never-ending supply of folks to harass. And we get away with it. Why? Because for the good citizens who pay the tab, we try to keep the streets safe for them, and they pay us to “harass” some people.

    Next time you are in my town, give me the old “single finger wave”. That’s another one of those codes. It means, “You can’t harass me.” It’s one of our favorites.

    • Q. Shtik September 14, 2020 at 3:59 pm #

      Bravo, Sgt. Bennett – benr

    • Majella September 14, 2020 at 5:56 pm #

      Brilliant. Good find.

    • 100th Avatar September 14, 2020 at 6:46 pm #

      AKA Cholo Vista

      AKA Chulajuana

  38. Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 3:57 pm #

    Unbiased COVID facts and figures.

    Get them while they are hot, kids:

    https://swprs.org/facts-about-covid-19/

    (link grabbed from the indominable CJ Hopkins/@Consent Factory on Twitter)

  39. Sredni Vashtar September 14, 2020 at 4:02 pm #

    https://news.yahoo.com/maitre-d-temperature-now-115655441.html

    Temperature checks outside of restarants. Temperature apps before you can get into work. Experts scoff, but miss the point: It’s getting people ready for the Re-Set and having to be scanned to get into any public building. No vaccine, no entrance. You will not be able to buy or sell without proof of vaccination, the Mark of the Beast.

    If you haven’t read Revelations – and I know many of you haven’t – it’s time to do so.

    • Night Owl September 14, 2020 at 4:13 pm #

      Pic is sweet. A woman of color holding something akin to a pistol at the head of The Oppressor.

      All totally normal.

    • cbeard September 15, 2020 at 4:46 pm #

      Sredni or Janos as the case may be. Hope it’s Janos, I usually enjoyed, agreed with your posts. Anytime someone tells me to reference scripture, I would suggest they read Thomas Paine, specifically “The Age Of Reason”. I may be in trouble as I don’t intend to be vaccinated. I had a temperature check before a haircut today. I don’t wear a mask unless I am absolutely forced to. Right now, I’m just waiting on the electoral finale and being prepared for the aftermath. Whatever the outcome.

  40. Shenandoah September 14, 2020 at 4:21 pm #

    America needs a constitutional crisis like a hole in the head, and that’s exactly what’s being engineered for the holiday season by the clever folks in the Democratic Party’s Lawfare auxiliary.

    This would be useful analysis, if it weren’t exactly the opposite to the actual reality.

    The potential “constitutional crisis” (clutches pearls …) has been deliberately and cynically fomented entirely by the Trump Republicans – they are entitled to all the credit:

    • Trump claimed he deserves more than two terms
    • Trump refuses to confirm he will leave if he loses
    • Trump claims mail-in voting is rigged against him
    • Trump demands that only votes counted 3 Nov must count
    • Trump says he will only lose if the election is rigged
    • Stone says a Republican win is the only legitimate result
    • Trump appoints a butcher to head the USPS
    • Measures taken by USPS to ensure mail ballot chaos
    • Trump rants unhinged every day about fraud
    • Voter suppression is widespread in the Covid context

    One could go on and on – but it’s clear that the terrified Trump and his Republican cabal are using every tactic possible to (a) disrupt and suppress the popular (Dem) vote pre 3 November, and (b) setting the framework for widespread cheating, litigation, and disruption after 3 November.

    I would say the Republicans have sophisticated polling showing precisely where they are losing, and it is a very scary scenario. They know their greatest liability is Trump – his first term is a disaster and his mouth is uncontrollable.

    Therefore they are planning and executing every legal, extra-legal, and downright criminal strategy they concoct to plainly steal the election in every way they can … from President down to dogcatcher … they are planning a right-wing coup, and they could pull it off.

    No wonder the Democrats are a bit antsy – they have the full force of the Trump incumbency – the deep state, the fascist state – lined up against them. But one can have some hope that the mass of people will say “enough is enough”, and throw out Trump, McConnell, and the rest of them.

    • benr September 14, 2020 at 4:36 pm #

      hahahahahah

      Your obtuse take on things is leaving out the reason any of the above was said but of course it was or you would only have the pointy hat in the corner for a point.
      Holy shit batman we found the joker!

      • Shenandoah September 14, 2020 at 4:41 pm #

        I stated it clearly and precisely – Republican polling is bad news – and they know that the more people who vote – especially by mail or pre-poll or drop-box – the worse the outlook gets. That is the reason they are screaming “fraud” and rigging the game – they can’t win it in a fair contest.

        • benr September 14, 2020 at 5:07 pm #

          What you stated was serious double speak.
          Mail in voting will be full of fraud and there has already been several cases of already filled out ballots with straight Democrat tickets punched all the way down the line.
          Serious voter fraud has already been contested in the 5 million people discharged from California rolls for a variety of reasons since the 2016 election.
          That shoots the Hillary won by popular vote narrative right in the ass.

          • sharonsj September 14, 2020 at 8:29 pm #

            You claim that mail-in voting is full of fraud and there are several cases of filled-out ballots. The word “several” means two or three. And you also cite no credible sources for your claim. Since I’ve read numerous investigative reports from the Brennan Law Center–and I just pulled up a 381 page report from the Heritage Center as well–there is only a handful of voter fraud cases each year–not enough to affect any voting total or election outcome.

            Los Angeles County–not the entire state–last year began removing inactive/dead names from the voter roles. There were 5 million of them but the news reports said that only 1.5 million would be removed. The removal was the result of a lawsuit brought by Judicial Watch, a CONSERVATIVE organization. Fraud was never mentioned.

            As usual, you dumb fucks do no research because you want to believe it’s all the Democrats’ fault. However, nearly all of the election fraud (not voter fraud) has been done by Republicans. I could give you the list, but nobody is paying me to waste my time to further explain facts to you.

            And don’t get me started on climate change, because I’ve read the scientific papers and you climate deniers are soon going to watch your homes burn or float away, thereby saving me time and trouble to explain that as well.

          • benr September 14, 2020 at 9:03 pm #

            Sharonsjw you should really take a deep breath and look just a little harder before accusing anyone of being a dumb fuck.
            Or really just look in the mirror you set the tone with your first hair on fire post. Good on ya.

            You point one finger and three get pointed back.
            Look just a little harder sharonsjw look a little harder.

            Its towering intellects such as yours that allow distractions like terms such as Climate deniers.
            Denying what that we have a climate on earth and that it changes?

            Thank God or I would be sitting on an ice cube a mile thick right now!

            I thought I had awarded the Dunce award today but well you get it lock stock and barrel go find your stool and the pointy hat in the corner.
            No stool as in chair not the kind monkeys like you fling when angry.

        • Kim September 14, 2020 at 8:57 pm #

          What do Democrats intend to do to about the plague of black-on-white murder and violence?

          I mean, apart from approving of it, excusing it, or encouraging it?

      • hmuller September 14, 2020 at 4:44 pm #

        The dude must be heavily medicated in some institution. For one thing he thinks Trump controls “the deep state”.

        • UN OUT OF USA September 14, 2020 at 5:23 pm #

          Because Rachel Madcow told him so.

      • Majella September 14, 2020 at 5:55 pm #

        Which of these points are untrue?

        Trump claimed he deserves more than two terms
        • Trump refuses to confirm he will leave if he loses
        • Trump claims mail-in voting is rigged against him
        • Trump demands that only votes counted 3 Nov must count
        • Trump says he will only lose if the election is rigged
        • Stone says a Republican win is the only legitimate result
        • Trump appoints a butcher to head the USPS
        • Measures taken by USPS to ensure mail ballot chaos
        • Trump rants unhinged every day about fraud

        • benr September 14, 2020 at 6:04 pm #

          The question still remains phrased as if these things were just said for no reason and he pulled them from the thin air.

          The better question is why did he respond to something else with the above.
          Heavily massaged reality missing the animus for this type of dialogue very typical of irrational leftist turd speak.

        • BackRowHeckler September 14, 2020 at 6:48 pm #

          All those points are moot.

          The main point is Joe Biden’s Stage 4 Dementia, and why is he running for president at 78 years old.

          Brh

        • sophia September 14, 2020 at 9:15 pm #

          None of them, except I had not heard about him claiming he deserves more than two terms. I don’t know the context nor is it an important statement. So what.

        • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 2:52 am #

          Back them all with concrete evidence for us.

          The floor is yours.

          BTW, what happened to most of your posts on the thread?

          • Kim September 15, 2020 at 3:33 am #

            What is the “butcher” comment about?

    • sophia September 14, 2020 at 9:12 pm #

      A butcher in charge of the USPS?

      • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 5:38 pm #

        It’s Trump’s Butcher of Lyon .. or … erm, uh, mail!

        Nazis everywhere!

  41. Roundball Shaman September 14, 2020 at 5:03 pm #

    (Democrats) “… have driven themselves crazy for years with the death-wish of eradicating western civ (and themselves with it).”
    .
    The D-Party took two major wrong turns… first, after November, 1963 and the direction they shifted into, and later, when they suffered the Arkansas Coup. They hated how R’s rode the law-and-order wave of 1968 into the Oval Office, how the R’s took personal possession of the American flag with the emergence of Right Wing Talk Radio, how the R’s put together a coherent message that began to resonate with Working Class Americans while the D’s couldn’t come up with one, and while the D’s were selling out millions of American workers and allowing factory towns to be gutted financially and leveled physically while kissing up to Wall Street Bankers.
    .
    “The US economy began a slow and insidious collapse because its petroleum energy base became unaffordable…”
    .
    The US economy began a slow and insidious collapse when businesses and corporations sold out American cities and towns and the American people beginning in the 1960s which cut the heart and soul out of the American industrial and production base. The USA didn’t make real things any more, so it began to sell moving digits around on computer screens and pretending that this kind of amusement was somehow real productive work. The USA had the greatest industrial engine and was the envy of the World. Now, the USA sells Narratives and Conflicts and Confusion and Fantasy-As-Reality. We used to go to old Carnivals to see strange sights and hear loud carnival barkers and see clowns and bizarre things going on. Now all we have to do is turn on cable TV at any hour of the day.

  42. BackRowHeckler September 14, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

    Phew! In Chi this weekend …

    53 shot, 14 dead.

    They’re not skipping a beat in old Chicago.

    Lot of sad stories but one of the worst is the young mother stabbed to death inside a Walgrens while working as a cashier by a community member who stabbed 4 people not long ago and was released from custody by DA Kim Foxx. No motive given, no motive necessary.

    BLACK LIVES MATTER!!!!

    • PeteAtomic September 14, 2020 at 5:47 pm #

      Criminals, scumbags & just poor ole junkies like Mr. Floyd there, all now have a movement & a budding lobbying group backing them up. It’s called BLM.

    • elysianfield September 14, 2020 at 8:33 pm #

      “Lot of sad stories but one of the worst is the young mother stabbed to death inside a Walgreens while working as a cashier by a community member who stabbed 4 people not long ago and was released from custody by DA Kim Foxx”

      BRH,
      Were I a member of the family of the young mother stabbed, I would take an interest in the well-being of DA Foxx.

      An active interest.

      • Kim September 14, 2020 at 9:00 pm #

        Put all of your assets into a situation (for your family) where they can’t be seized in a civil suit. Then take all of the interest you want.

        A lot of white men in the older age groups who should seriously consider this.

        • beantownbill. September 14, 2020 at 11:24 pm #

          Done already. I legally own nothing. Wise advice.

          • Kim September 15, 2020 at 3:24 am #

            @ beantownbill.

            Same here. Well, I own stuff, but good luck getting at it.

  43. Anon1970 September 14, 2020 at 5:25 pm #

    More looting in Chicago’s loop: https://cwbchicago.com/2020/09/more-yes-more-looting-videos-loop.html
    Chicago’s YTD homicide count through the end of yesterday was higher than in any year in more than a decade. Get the latest data at http://www.heyjackass.com

  44. benr September 14, 2020 at 5:46 pm #

    New news item circulating about Iran wanting to murder one of our ambassadors.

    Could this be a prelude to taking away The Donald’s no new war status as president and his Nobel peace prize?

    More chickenhawk status just where is this news item coming from?
    Iran and Norks have been very quiet as of late.

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 5:51 pm #

      You mean the same Iran that is the cheerleader for the Democrat party?

  45. PeteAtomic September 14, 2020 at 5:54 pm #

    Trump is on board to have Joe Rogan host a 4 hour debate between himself & Sleepy Joe…

    who else thinks this would be fucking awesome??

  46. benr September 14, 2020 at 6:00 pm #

    Further proof California is fawked?

    https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_ep1+shtml/205954.shtml?gm_track#contents

    • PeteAtomic September 14, 2020 at 7:04 pm #

      omg

      nice find! 🙂

  47. abcdef September 14, 2020 at 6:03 pm #

    Hi Mr. Kunstler,
    I enjoy reading your political crisis scenario. The only problem I have with it is that the Democrats control exactly 1/2 of 1 branch of government at the moment, and a minority of state legislatures and governorships. And the President controls the armed forces & the federal bureaucracy, while governors control state police, etc, etc, etc. So, how is this all supposed to go down again? That is going to require some mighty massive grassroots protesting!!! And conspiracy to make happen! “Rogue elector slates!” Whatever that means, even if not allowed by State law?

    Alternatively, we could disinfranchise 40% of people who can at the moment legally vote by mail to protect against significant fraud that no one has proved existed since mail in voting has been established in this country. Or make them vote in person against an institutional backdrop of making voting in person hard (especially in urban environments) in some pretty competitive swing states, during a pandemic? And that will save the Republic?

    You could be right, Mr. Kunstler. It could be as you say, but the problem is that you cannot bring yourself to view the other side of this at all. And I think that blindness to any information that does not accord with your world view is unhelpful.

    This is the same issue I have with all those complaining about the breakdown in law and order. Once Trump kicks President Joe Biden out, we will have order once again. It makes little sense. Like calling a disease situation the “Wuhan virus” when we–unlike many other industrialised nations–cannot get our shit together on how to combat it. 200,000 dead soon and way more to come. And ongoing super-spreader political rallies that are designed to wipe out your own base!

    As for oil–bankruptcies from firms who borrowed in 2015/16 to stay a float makes sense when the price of oil is off by a third from before the COVID pandemic began. You are not paying those loans back, and lower prices make sense when you see world demand falling as a consequence of COVID. So, it is driven by lower oil prices AND by the recognition the oil is a dying industry that needs to be allowed to–if not die–accept its decrepitude and wither to a shell of its former glory. Sane mass transport infrastructure married to sane city planning–reminds me of you from an earlier era! 🙂 The President wants to keep us hooked on carbon, Mr. Kunstler. There is no succour coming from him from the Long Emergency. He is accelerating it!

    • BackRowHeckler September 14, 2020 at 6:45 pm #

      Hey Cargill, how do you like events in Melbourne?

      Ahahahahahaha.

      Why are you worried about us?

      You don’t even like us.

      Brh

      • abcdef September 15, 2020 at 11:58 pm #

        Hi BackRowHeckler,
        I have no idea what you are talking about, but whatever floats your boat.

        Why am I worried about “us”? Because I live here and I watch this country botch its COVID response; and I see people I love in harm’s way. Heading to 200,000 dead and beyond. Awesome job, Brownie!

        Let me put it terms that you and others who whistle past the graveyard in a slightly different way–If this were a Democratic Party Administration controlling 2.5 out of 3 branches of government AND the majority of state legislatures and governorships you would be screaming against the sheer incompetence and depraved indifference of a government to its people in its response to COVID. You would look at that number of 200,000 dead and CONDEMN the government of the day. and with good reason. You would look at the evidence and say that the ruling party couldn’t keep us safe, by ignoring the science and by allowing the country to fall into chaos. I would condemn the ruling party as well, because I hate incompetency, sociopathic indifference, and graft–and this mob we have now in political control have all of those characteristics in spades. You might pin your hopes on the black box of Donald Trump, but I do not. I disliked Obama. He was incompetent in his first term. Donald Trump outshines him in those stakes, and he adds the other two as well…

  48. PeteAtomic September 14, 2020 at 6:30 pm #

    So a melanated community member went after a cop in PA there and got dusted..

    The US will need to figure out– and especially if ole slow Joe wins– how to address policing the melanated community going forward.

    I think DARPA will end up getting involved. Think about it. Who better to come up with a ‘non lethal’ munition to take down melanated community members (?)

    Maybe a combo between a taser, a chemical round, and a shot of narcan..

    🙂 ha..

  49. benr September 14, 2020 at 7:58 pm #

    More court ordered interference!

    Wisconsin court orders green party removed from ballot!

  50. benr September 14, 2020 at 8:00 pm #

    The ninth rules in favor of Trump on immigrations?

    Has hell froze over?
    Did I read this wrong?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/appeals-court-sides-with-trump-over-drawdown-of-immigrant-protections/ar-BB191UIi?ocid=msnews

    • Kim September 14, 2020 at 9:04 pm #

      Trump appointee. One of his great achievements.

  51. Pucker September 14, 2020 at 8:01 pm #

    What’s the difference between Throwing In The Sponge, and throwing in the towel?

  52. EnterpriseSpaceship September 14, 2020 at 8:35 pm #

    The problem was the companies producing shale oil couldn’t make money at it

    This is because they have burned much more oil, coal and n. gas in the process of producing shale oil than all the oil they’ve produced.

    Is this only applicable to shale oil, sand oil and shale gas?

    No, this is the case with all hydrocarbons since early coal in Britain – all along!

    Positive EROEI is a flying-carpet EROEI concept and cannot be true – ever.

    “Energy, like time, flows from past to future”.

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 11:12 pm #

      So why is it still being produced?

      Easy, because it is a requirement to run the world, we have no choice.

      The GND folks seem to conveniently forget this FACT.

      • EnterpriseSpaceship September 15, 2020 at 1:32 am #

        The problem is when no more stuff can be burned to produce less stuff.

        Choreographing a positive Economics – stops!

        • benr September 15, 2020 at 9:49 am #

          We have enough coal to power America for 100 years and by then we will have a better producing energy source.

          • EnterpriseSpaceship September 15, 2020 at 3:24 pm #

            Oil is what makes mass-mining and transportation of coal possible.

          • benr September 15, 2020 at 4:47 pm #

            @es

            And before oil and we still used coal?

            The use of coal predates oil by a good bit.

            Have you not seen the redneck gasifier system?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=522BaxM0Jnk

          • EnterpriseSpaceship September 15, 2020 at 6:55 pm #

            @ benr

            Hand-picking coal will last forever…

            The hey days of oil-assisted mass-coal production and distribution are gone…

  53. John1945 September 14, 2020 at 9:07 pm #

    This is absolutely wonderful.

    Oregon man, freed after using Molotov cocktail to start fire, set six more.

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/14/oregon-man-freed-after-starting-brush-fire-set-six-more-cops/

    Lets recall a deep Latin proverb:

    “Res nolunt diu male administrari”

    Then abolish all the DA offices.Shameless f..cks.They are not only worthless but outright dangerous.

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 11:13 pm #

      Financed by Soros, why don’t we get rid of him and his money.

      A real question for Trump and Barr.

      • benr September 15, 2020 at 9:51 am #

        I have asked that same question for years.
        A wood stake and a bunch of garlic would keep him from resurrecting again.

  54. Kim September 14, 2020 at 9:14 pm #

    https://thepostmillennial.com/cdc-to-conduct-crt-inspired-trainings-against-trumps-executive-order

    The allegiance of the CDC is of course to globalism. It is an organization dedicated to hating, demoralizing, splitting and destroying the United States and the West.

    All of its work is dedicated to that single purpose.

  55. stelmosfire September 14, 2020 at 9:48 pm #

    So I will conduct a simple experiment. I have already received two mail in ballot request forms. I have sent one back and am awaiting my official US Nov ballot with which I will vote. My second ballot request form I will save until the cut-off date. and then request another ballot and vote again. I will then go to my local polling place and attempt to vote again. I am curious as to how this will work out. Vote twice or three times? No concern as I have brain fog from the China Flu which is ravishing my community.

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 11:09 pm #

      Good experiment, I wonder how many times you could hypothetically vote.

      The Dems have given us educational indoctrination, illegal immigration, attempted coups of an elected president, lies about just about everything, a press that no longer reports unbiased news, absolutely no governance, riots in Blue zones from indifference, using the intelligence agencies to oust the same president, heck, using the entire Deep State to block everything the president promised his constituency.

      Why should we not be surprised they are trying to fix the election using whatever means, including the USPS.

      • beantownbill. September 14, 2020 at 11:33 pm #

        Wouldn’t it be a hoot if you vote twice and
        Biden loses by one vote?

        • malthuss September 15, 2020 at 5:49 pm #

          that would be sick and funny. that is when your vote counts. in a tie.

      • benr September 15, 2020 at 9:52 am #

        Yet here we are with people on this very board that not only support it all but think they are in the right to do so or flat out claim none of it is happening.

  56. stelmosfire September 14, 2020 at 10:00 pm #

    There are many posters on this site. How many posters have had the Covid 19? How many know someone close that has had it? I mean an actual close acquaintance? I know a bunch of guys from the firehouse, all recovered and back at work after 14 day quarantine. That was after a quick burn-through in this area back in MAR-APR-MAY 2020. In ’91-’92 something came through here and kicked ass. Worse than this stuff. Has anyone you know succumbed to the sickness. I knew an older guy they said died from Covid, but he was sick for years before the shit came around. I for one am sick of the face diapers when nobody is even sick around here. Seems like bullshit to me.

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2020 at 11:02 pm #

      Let’s see. You are sick of all the masks you see around you. No one is even sick around you. Uh, maybe one gives the other.

      Want a surge, take all your masks off like they did two months ago in Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas with surges following in each state.

      My grandson goes to NAU, lives off campus with three others. Two just got positive tests. No idea where it came from. Everyone quarantined.

      The vast majority of folks do not even get real sick from this crud. I just hope you do not end up in the bad category. The crud is really good at culling out co-morbidities.

      It takes a real man to face Covid, right? BS!!!

      • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 2:56 am #

        The virus passes through the mask.

        You simply repeat the same nonsense over and over.

        Go on, prove otherwise.

        • Shenandoah September 15, 2020 at 3:56 am #

          Mask-wearing has been proven as the very best low-level and common-sense, no-drama activity you can undertake (along with social distancing and avoiding crowds) – countries doing this are faring far better than the US.

          Anti-mask BS is nothing but ideological Trumpy folklore.

          • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 7:14 am #

            The virus passes through the mask.

            Your IQ, it is low.

          • GreenAlba September 15, 2020 at 11:17 am #

            https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-act-now

            Still waiting for you to tell us about the grateful feedback you got from the Royal Society and the Oxford team for putting them right. I’m sure you’d agree that you’d be failing in your duty as a citizen if you hadn’t put them right by now. I mean if you’ve got time to waste trolling on here about people’s IQs it’s the least you could do.

            Also still waiting for those flu death statistics that don’t include old people or anyone with poor health, so that we can update your previous statistical comparisons.

            In your own time.

          • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 6:40 pm #

            Royal Society. Sounds good. Let’s see.

            “First, our report covers a vast array of
            social and behavioural research vital to our understanding
            of face mask and covering wearing, which is by definition
            almost always observational studies, many of which are
            considered of very high quality within those disciplines.
            Second, a core criticism of the face mask literature, and in
            particular cloth or non-surgical face coverings has been the
            lack of RCTs. As mentioned in the report and eloquently
            argued elsewhere149, this is unrealistic for ethical but also
            practical reasons. This may be another reason that ‘weak’
            or ‘lack of evidence’ has been ascribed to face mask and
            coverings for the general public. ”

            Hmm.

            “In England face masks and coverings for the general public
            in public places have not been mandated beyond public
            transport and hospitals. Wearing a face mask or covering
            in the UK has had very low uptake (~25%, late April 2020).
            The lack of clear recommendations for the general public
            and low uptake of wearing face masks and coverings may
            be attributed to: (i) over-reliance on an evidence-based
            medicine approach and assertion that evidence was weak
            due to few conclusive RCT (randomised controlled trial)
            results in community settings, discounting high quality
            non-RCT evidence. ”

            Oh, boy. Evidence is so problematic.

            And the grande finale:

            “It is important to know that the evidence of the benefit of
            using a face covering to protect others is weak and the
            effect is likely to be small, therefore face coverings are
            not a replacement for the other ways of managing risk,
            including minimising time spent in contact, using fixed teams
            and partnering for close-up work, and increasing hand and
            surface washing. These other measures remain the best
            ways of managing risk in the workplace and government
            would therefore not expect to see employers relying on
            face coverings as risk management for the purpose of their
            health and safety assessments”

            I apologize for the Algae-like length of this post.

            Anyone with better things to do can watch the brief video of Dr. Faust informing us that cloth masks are indeed more or less useless.

            LOL.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 5:51 am #

            So, you have shown exactly what has been said before:

            – that masks do not prevent transmission, but, in combination with distancing, they slow it down. I can’t believe you don’t recall how many times this has been said.

            I must say I find it utterly hilarious that you want RCTs (pretty impossible in this context, so observational studies are what you are going to get), but you unthinkingly backed studies on HCQ that were observational and not RCTs, when the RCTs all showed no benefit.

            Them goal posts are a-jiving again.

            But the important thing to note is that you’re an ‘editor’. Precision in reading text is meant to be your stock-in-trade.

            And yet you haven’t answered EITHER of my actual questions.

            Happy to hear from you when your homework is done.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 5:54 am #

            You could add to that homework researching how trapping a proportion of the virus-laden droplets in a mask lowers the viral load which the transmitter passes on to the next person, and how the extent of the viral load affects how sick the person is likely to become or whether they’re likely to die.

            The relatives of the dead doctors and nurses might be able to help you with that one if you’re having problems.

          • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 8:35 am #

            So easy.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 8:51 am #

            So predictable. Like a bot.

          • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 8:56 am #

            “It is important to know that the evidence of the benefit of
            using a face covering to protect others is weak and the
            effect is likely to be small”

            https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/024/207/brainlettttt.jpg

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 9:13 am #

            That’s why it has to be combined with social distancing.

            The effect is variable, depending on the quality and configuration of fabric used (including number of layers). There are studies on this. And the effect is to lower the viral load, which helps get to that magic herd immunity (for however long it lasts), while killing fewer people and making those who get it less sick.

            I know it’s hard. Well, not really.

            And you still haven’t answered either question.

            Flu death stats coming soon?

            Did you think that daft cartoon was going to do anything other than make you look a bot?

          • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 9:17 am #

            Admit that you didn’t read the study.

            LOL.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 9:22 am #

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv9JQ0iPfgE

            Perhaps you’re one of those people who don’t use a hanky when you sneeze common cold virus on public transport either?

            I mean, why would you, when it wouldn’t be catching anything?

            Just spray it around the people sitting beside you. They’ll love you.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 9:23 am #

            I read the study. Sorry. And I’ve read many of them. Including a meta-study of tests of the filtration qualities of different fabrics and configurations of those fabrics. Have you?

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 9:42 am #

            I read the study.

            And all the other ones you didn’t read.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 9:43 am #

            Sorry, double post. That’ll get the bot recalibrating so fast its widgets will be spinning.

          • Opie September 17, 2020 at 9:51 am #

            I occasionally will copy something I read in comment sections on sites that actually allow it, IF it has the ring of truth to it. The following does for me,but you be the judge.

            “Chemist46
            I was trained as a chemist. A large part of my professional career was working in various parts of the filtration industry. I developed a line of mixed esters of cellulose membrane filters. Millipore type filters, that were used to sterilize flu vaccines for Merck Sharp and Dohme as well as other medical products companies. I developed respiratory protection products for Wilson Safety Products used in the mining industry. I worked for Baxter developing medical / IV filters. I have patents on three IV filters I invented. Baxter sold more than 5 million of one of those every year for most of a decade. I know a little bit about filters.
            Surgical masks were not designed as filters and were not intended to be used as filters. Surgical masks were designed to be used by surgeons standing face down over an operating table holding a patient with an open wound. The surgeon wearing the mask would be able to talk to others in the room without discharging spittle droplets into the patient’s wound. Spittle droplets are large and can cause infection.
            I witnessed a test of surgical masks. Small plaster particles were generated in a room. They were visible as a white dust in the air. A man was properly fitted with a surgical mask and spent a short time in the room. When he came out the mask was removed. A camera was focused on the man’s face. The entire area that had been covered by the mask was coated by the white dust. The camera showed that his nostrils and his mouth had been penetrated by the white dust. The dust particles were measured and found to be around 40 micrometers in diameter. The particles that penetrated the mask were the same diameter.
            Covid-19 virus molecules are about 0.1 micrometers in diameter. That is 400 times smaller than the plaster particles that penetrated the mask.
            Surgical masks will not prevent the wearer from inhaling or exhaling viruses or bacteria. They provide absolutely no protection for either the wearer or anyone nearby. They create a very dangerous false sense of security for everyone. They also force the wearer to rebreath carbon dioxide. Which will over time reduce the wearers blood oxygen level. That can become very dangerous especially for older people.
            This farce is being promoted by sleazy politicians who believe that if they can convince people that they are protecting them or creating a safe environment for them by pushing this mask farce those people will re-elect them.
            All politicians pushing this dangerous mask farce should be voted out of office as soon as possible.”

          • Night Owl September 17, 2020 at 10:46 am #

            Yes, Opie. This is why none of the literature from the authoritarian enablers can ever point to hard evidence for the mask theater.

            It is so easy to shoot them down that it is comical. But what is happening in our society is far from comical.

            Fight the good fight.

          • GreenAlba September 17, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

            “. They also force the wearer to rebreath carbon dioxide. Which will over time reduce the wearers blood oxygen level. ”

            https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/doctor-puts-on-six-face-masks-in-video-to-debunk-idea-that-they-lower-oxygen-levels-1.5025293

            “Covid-19 virus molecules are about 0.1 micrometers in diameter. ”

            Covid-19 virus molecules don’t go anywhere on their own. They travel in a medium. Otherwise they die. So the dimensions you need to give are for the droplet or aerosol particle on which the virus is riding.

          • GreenAlba September 17, 2020 at 1:06 pm #

            And what matters is that the mask catches SOME of the virus carried by SOME of the particles.

            That reduces the viral load heading for the recipient of the cough, sneeze or breath, which in turn gives them a chance of getting a less severe dose of the disease. This in turn means they are less likely to suffer long-term organ damage. Or die.

            Some of us continue to think that the (Type 1) diabetic lad of 15 still matters, as does the guy up the road who’s put on a few pounds. It’s not a capital offence.

            And you’re right that they can give a false sense of security. If you think you don’t need to distance because you’re wearing one.

            Anders Tegnell (Swedish version of Dr Fauci)

            ““Face masks can be a complement to other things when other things are safely in place,” he said. “But to start with having face masks and then think you can crowd your buses or your shopping malls — that’s definitely a mistake.”

            But the mask obsessives on here want you to crowd your buses and shopping malls as well as not wearing a mask.

          • Night Owl September 17, 2020 at 5:34 pm #

            Admit that you didn’t read the study.

            LOL.

          • GreenAlba September 18, 2020 at 6:23 am #

            I read the study, bot. Give your widgets a rest.

            Or read the studies on relative filtration qualities.

            And look up ‘viral load’.

          • GreenAlba September 18, 2020 at 6:24 am #

            Your MO is not to respond to facts with facts, but with trolling.

            You’re still at it.

        • JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 10:07 am #

          Virus passes through the mask, yes.

          Droplets do not however. Directed droplets or hanging droplets are stopped both outgoing and incoming. Masks stop that vector of transmission.

          The main component of transmission though is finally coming out now. Airborne transmission, viruses in brownian suspension in the air just waiting for a nose, mouth or eyes and maybe ears to show up.

          Masks do nothing here. Through the mask or around the mask.

          Six foot rules do nothing here. What does is limiting the number of folks in a confined space, which increases the concentration of viruses and ventilating the heck out of all indoor venues and hepa filtering the removed and incoming air.

          Not cheap to fix and probably responsible for the ongoing steady state of new cases across the board.

          Until the airborne problem solutions are in place, masks and social distancing for the droplet issue are about it in a defensive posture.

          Masks protect you from incoming droplets and protect others from your sneezing , coughing, talking and singing and maybe just breathing.

          And maybe consider that saving one person from going through the pain of a bout of any virus that transmits from you might be a good thing.

          Read up on the isolation procedures hospitals use to protect against tuberculosis, another airborne transmitter. The world may have to control indoor environments to this degree, or get everyone outside.

          • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 2:48 pm #

            The virus passes through the mask and it isn’t catching many droplets.

            Dr. Faust in his own words, on video.

            https://www.instagram.com/p/CADc5BlFjEp/?utm_source=ig_embed

            But we knew that anyways. The only masks that could slow transmission are the N95 or N99. But no one can breathe in an N95 or N99.

            But given that the virus is not dangerous to most of the population, the point is moot.

      • Kim September 15, 2020 at 3:12 am #

        @JohnAZ

        What a LARP. Unless you are 120 years old, I am guessing that your grandson is not more than 70 years old. He is probably in his 20s.

        Is he enormously fat? Does he have late stage leukemia or perhaps he has a weak heart or some other deadly disease?

        No? Then his chances of getting especially sick from this flu much less dying are very low, unless he dies while riding a motorcycle. Because in that case he is sure to have been done in by covid.

        • JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 10:50 am #

          Gee, maybe I am not as concerned about his mortality as I am about a two week or more interruption of his life and potential life long damage that this virus is capable of. Your cherry picking mortality stats only presents a small picture of the damage this virus is doing. Wake up and smell the roses.

          • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 5:09 pm #

            Cracks appear in the damn.

            LOL.

          • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 5:09 pm #

            Dam. Derp

      • Kim September 15, 2020 at 3:21 am #

        Very few people wear masks where I live. They have ignored the whole thing. I was at a wedding recently with maybe 200 people. Maybe five masks.

        I am yet to hear of a death from the flu.

        • benr September 15, 2020 at 9:58 am #

          For months I have taken my dog to dog beach san diego and no one has been wearing mask.
          San Diego has ignored this crap where we can.
          Most of the people running around with masks also have the stupid we believe in signs all over their yards.

          The rules are nothing short of ridiculous.

          Restaurants have mask rules in effect and give out sample size stuff.
          Yet the water bottles and pitchers as well as glasses are not.
          Neither are the plates and silverware.
          I see a cursory wipe down of stuff but the chairs in most places are still dirty or sticky.
          All of these measures are to make the sheep feel better.

          • JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 11:02 am #

            You are right on everyone creating what they think the rules should be and most missing the point totally, most being led by politically motivated “scientists”.

            It is simple really. Do whatever is necessary to avoid being in the zone of virus concentration, outdoors, indoors with proper ventilation, mitigation in tight places indoors and outdoors.

            The sanitation of surfaces you are referring to is for everything, any time. A lot more than Covid is spread by dirty surfaces.

          • Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 1:44 pm #

            It’s like that movie, “The Purge”. Those who believed in the New Constitution put little purple flowers on their doorstep so as to be left alone by the looters. Those who have the “In our America love wins” sign will be similarly be left alone. They hope…..

    • Kim September 15, 2020 at 3:18 am #

      I had a flu in Hong Kong in the early 2000s. Never been so sick for so long in my life. It lasted maybe four weeks. For about two weeks of that time I could only literally crawl in and out of bed. It would definitely have killed an older person.

      People are always getting bad flus in Hong Kong. So many people in such close proximity. And they are not great hand-washers.

      But flus that kill old people are not something new.

      • JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 9:49 am #

        Maybe the goal of all this should be the ability to kill viruses in vitro. One thing that mitigation has done is decrease colds and flus too.

        Funniest thing, trying to flatten the curve on Covid maybe reducing the impact of all viruses.

        Unless you like colds and the flu.

        • benr September 15, 2020 at 9:59 am #

          I was once told colds and flus clean you out.
          From the looks of it most people could do with a good clean out.

          • JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 10:51 am #

            If you had a choice, would you want to be “cleaned out”?

          • benr September 15, 2020 at 11:18 am #

            @JOHNAZ

            I actually don’t mind being sick with a cold or the flu for a week or two.
            Stay home watch tv drink hot tea or toddies and sleep a lot.
            The reality is I work even when sick so being sick sucks but it is part of life.

        • Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 1:47 pm #

          Good thinking, comrade. This is how they want you to think. Our whole Civilization focused on avoiding sickness in order to heal/placate the Earth.

          I will recommend you to the High Priest, Anthony Fauci, at the next coven meeting.

      • JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 10:56 am #

        Not just the flu. I do wonder why China seems to be a source for most of these weird viruses?

        If the mitigation techniques being used now could have saved you that misery then, would you have used them in Hong Kong?

        • GreenAlba September 15, 2020 at 11:24 am #

          JohnAZ

          “I do wonder why China seems to be a source for most of these weird viruses?”

          Dense population, high and increasing proximity of humans and their livestock to wild animals. Habitat destruction. Exotic tastes/exotic and entirely spurious ‘medicines’.

          https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02341-1

          This stuff has been known since long before Covid – it just becomes more pressing, but equally without a solution.

          Same thing with Lyme disease:

          https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/07/01/the-lyme-wars

          (Relevant bit starts around para. 16)

          • GreenAlba September 15, 2020 at 11:44 am #

            Note that the Nature article and others in the same vein are saying what the devilish Dr Fauci seems to have said, which caused such umbrage to Janos (sorry, Sredni) further up.

            We seem to be in an age where, if people don’t like the solution(s) to a problem – or indeed the fact that there are no politically acceptable solutions – they prefer to deny the problem and its actual causes. Seems to me that the truth is valuable, even if you can’t do anything about it.

            As someone said, ‘it’s only a problem if it has a solution – if it has no solution, it’s just a fact and has to be faced’.

            Still better to acknowledge the fact.

            As Reinhold Niebuhr knew. 🙂

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer

          • BackRowHeckler September 15, 2020 at 4:59 pm #

            GA, all that about China is correct, but India has a slightly larger population than China on a slightly smaller landmass, yet none of these infectious diseases appear to originate in India.

            Brh

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 5:41 am #

            brh

            True, but I don’t think they go in as much for the exotic stuff – eating exotic species of wild animals and using bits of them for so-called ‘medicinal’ purposes (including pangolin scales).

            They’re still keeping captured wild animals alongside ordinary livestock in wet markets. I think they closed them down at one point, or tried to. But there would be a black market, no matter what. It only takes one person for the transmission to humans, just like that farmer in Kansas.

            The Chinese are behind a lot of the illicit killing of rhinos and elephants for their horns and tusks in Africa too.

          • BackRowHeckler September 16, 2020 at 2:52 pm #

            GA, I don’t blame Covid on the Chinese, they live like they live. There are numerous reasons for its rapid worldwide spread, not the least of which is air travel.

            The Spanish flu got its start on a farm near Ft Riley, KS, spread when US soldiers shipped out to France. 1917-1918 saw people moving around the planet like never before in history.

            Brh

          • GreenAlba September 18, 2020 at 8:11 am #

            I agree about the Spanish flu dynamics, brh. Just meant it only takes one Patient Zero at the point where the virus goes inter-species. Before it transmits human to human, if it’s going to.

            Some things don’t cross, and others that cross don’t go on to transmit from human to human.

            Recalling the BSE crisis (prions in this case rather than viruses), sheep have been known to have scrapie since the 17th century, which is much the same prion as the one that causes BSE, but it’s never been known to cross the species barrier into humans.

            This stuff really is rocket science, but more so.

    • cbeard September 15, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

      One old friend and his girlfriend had the virus. She works in a nursing home and probably brought it home to him. They were both sick for about a week and are both back at work. About a dozen residents of the nursing home succumbed to the virus and several more became sick, but got through it just fine.

  57. Jo-G September 14, 2020 at 10:03 pm #

    ” Here’s how it works: the complicit newspapers and cable news channels publish polls ………

    …. The US military breaks into two factions. Voilà: Civil War Two.”

    Like all of us, Mr. Kunstler is usually wrong when he predicts the future.
    But right now it looks like this is where the U. S. is going. Mr. Kunstler has stopped predicting the rise of a “corn-pone Nazi”, so maybe now we’ll get one.

    When I’m around Americans here I don’t hear any political opinions, especially not from the soldiers. They seem professional and task oriented. I can’t picture any of them wanting to get involved in a contested election. How would that work? Some generals refusing to obey orders from the President? They would have to rank high enough to control the infrastructure and logistics.

  58. BackRowHeckler September 14, 2020 at 10:04 pm #

    CFNers, let us have a moment of silence for Ricardo Munoz, distinguished immigrant, age 27, gunned down by Lancaster, PA police on Sunday. Police were called to a home by Munoz sister, complaining Munoz was threatening the family with a knife. Video shows Munoz wielding a large knife, charging at police, when he was ventilated.

    I know of Lancaster as a center of skilled gunsmiths in the 18th century, most of them from Germany; its the town where the famous Pennsylvania Rifle’ was created. Demographics appear to have changed in Lancaster.

    Justified shooting or not, riots erupted in the city last night. I know it’s hard to believe, looting in a city the size of Lancaster, Penn. Keep ’em coming, every arson fire and store looted caught on video 100,000 votes for Trump.

    Brh

  59. tom clark September 14, 2020 at 11:29 pm #

    I may be naive, but I still think folk music will save us. Thank you, Doc Watson. And yes, I HAVE been to Lancaster, PA. Oldest farmer’s market in the US I believe. It’s kind of a pretty place as I recall, but then my standards are pretty low (by today’s standards!)

  60. Goodwalkspoiled September 14, 2020 at 11:43 pm #

    The mail-in voting blitz won’t occur until the last minute. The trick by individuals will be voting in person and dropping a ballot in the mailbox on the same day. That gets 2 votes counted no contest. Also lefties will flood mailboxes with a few million false Biden ballots at the deadline. The avalanche will throw statehouses into total chaos. Lefties will claim all votes must count even if not verifiable. Civil unrest erupts if the votes aren’t counted. Media orchestrates rebellion. Better hope for a bitter cold, or snowy December to reduce rioting.

    • Shenandoah September 15, 2020 at 2:24 am #

      Also lefties will flood mailboxes with a few million false Biden ballots at the deadline.

      Do you understand that all ballots are barcoded, identifiable, and (in most cases) cross-checked by signature of the voter? So where do these “millions” of fraudulent ballots come from – and how would they ever pass muster?

      If it were that easy to game the vote-by-mail system, I would expect the Republicans would do it in spades – probably far more than the Dems would.

      • Kim September 15, 2020 at 3:00 am #

        @ Shenandoah

        As you perfectly well know, there are lots of ways to game the vote-by-mail system and these methods have been used for years.

        – “ballot harvesting”

        California’s law allows anyone to drop off someone else’s mail-in ballot at a polling station. There is no process for vetting or verifying those who deliver the ballots. This is an invitation to massive fraud.

        – automatically mailing ballots to everyone whose name is listed in the voter registry, whether they request one or not and whether they are dead or alive.

        In this connection, Elizabeth Warren is demanding that all jurisdictions be prohibited from actually cleaning their voter rolls. Because the more dead and inactive voters, the more opportunity for fraud.

        – fraud or theft involving partisan mail deliverers

        The U.S. Election Assistance Commission and the Election Administration and Voting Surveys reveal that 16.4 million ballots mailed to registered voters went missing between the 2016 and 2018 elections. All told since 2012 a staggering total of 28.4 million ballots have gone missing. That’s 28.4 million opportunities to cheat.
        https://www.gopusa.com/why-democrats-love-voting-by-mail-its-easier-to-cheat/

        – mail voting has been accompanied by agitations to make voting less secure, i.e., inadequate verifications of identity or residence

        Nevada Democrats are demanding that the Secretary of State eliminate rules that invalidate ballots because of mismatched signatures. Because they want to make it easier to cheat.

        Elizabeth Warren is demanding that individuals be allowed to vote with nothing more than a “sworn statement of identity instead of a voter ID.” That is, an honor system.

        Should people have access to your bank account on that basis?

        References to numerous cases of actual fraud involving mail-in voting can be found at the links both above and below.

        https://nypost.com/2018/11/14/mail-in-voting-makes-cheating-all-too-easy/

        • Shenandoah September 15, 2020 at 4:12 am #

          I actually agree with you Kim on all the points you make where there is a distinct risk that mail-in votes are filled in by someone who should not have filled it in.. Who could not want such stuff to be exposed and barred?

          What I am concerned about is that these cases are such a tiny proportion of all those who legitimately vote-by-mail … but Trump and others are smearing the whole mail-vote process as fraudulent … that is what I object to.

          • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 7:35 am #

            They are claiming it is ripe for fraud, which, due to a lack of proper ID verification (unlike absentee voting), it is.

            Your objection is a straw man, Cargill.

          • benr September 15, 2020 at 10:01 am #

            Nor do you actually care and why should you as a citizen of socialist Australia.
            I most certainly don’t give a fig about what your country is doing.

          • JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 10:41 am #

            The problem is the the vote differences between the candidates is so small that these piddling issues are deciding races all over. The US voting system is corrupted, archaic, and is not capable of doing an honest job.

            Paper ballots, on voting day, being counted over a period of weeks if need be with ink dipped fingers to prove one vote per person. The fact that we are sitting here listening to people planning to find a way to vote more than once shows how lousy the system is.

            And compromising the goodness of elections so the SOBs of the MSM can have their race of calling the winners is insanity.

          • Shenandoah September 15, 2020 at 5:41 pm #

            Paper ballots, on voting day, being counted over a period of weeks if need be with ink dipped fingers to prove one vote per person.

            Sounds fine in theory – but during a pandemic, having alternatives to in-person voting on just the one day, with all the crowding that that would entail – seems a very reasonable idea.

            Lots of polling places, lots of drop-boxes, lots of days (and evenings) for early voting, simple absentee voting, and of course, mail-in voting, with a USPS going all-out to facilitate it.

            But Republicans block or hamper all this stuff – because they know democracy is against them – they can’t win a fair contest. Turnout is their enemy.

            All of the claims of increased fraud are a phony ruse – it is only about Trump Republican fears that an increased turn-out costs them victories. It is a voter-suppression campaign, pure and simple.

          • benr September 15, 2020 at 8:39 pm #

            @kakadu, cargill or what ever new troll name

            You opine as to why mail in voting is being railed against as voter suppression.

            I will just say in your opinion and that is ALL it is.
            The proof otherwise is all over the place.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 9:06 am #

            “Sounds fine in theory – but during a pandemic, having alternatives to in-person voting on just the one day, with all the crowding that that would entail – seems a very reasonable idea.”

            I offered a possible solution to that. Vote on five consecutive days (allocation according to surname initial, address or whatever). Less queuing. Or have five times as many polling stations. Same result. The latter would be more problematic, in terms of volunteers, I imagine.

            In 1939 we (the UK and the US, among others) turned our economies round on a sixpence, but in-person voting over a period of days (just as you’d have with a postal vote) can’t be instituted and organised in an unusual situation, in order to avoid civil breakdown?

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 9:56 am #

            Well, you guys didn’t turn yours round until a bit later, but you get my drift. 🙂

  61. tom clark September 15, 2020 at 12:09 am #

    Gonna be cold here in the upper midwest this winter…always is. No burn, loot murder fer sure. Anybody out there ever lived in this god forsaken place in the winter? It’s a stitch, especially as you age. But then that nasty hoax covid’ll get cha, just when you’re not paying attention. Covid-19 is a hoax and professional sports is dead…no more beautiful stadiums for billionaires paid for at taxpayers expense. Ah, but folk music will save us…thank you, Doc Watson.

  62. SoftStarLight September 15, 2020 at 2:16 am #

    There hasn’t been a sunspot in 24 days now. It was supposed to be the beginning of cycle 25 but with this new three week lull it appears now that cycle 24 isn’t quite finished (?) and thus has been the weakest solar cycle since the 1840’s. Science does know actually but it basically seems as if science isn’t interested in the truth because its just as much of a fraud as the organized religions it despises. The climate change you didn’t order shall surely be served to you. Or if you need to keep it simple, then yes, it’s gonna cool off.

  63. SoftStarLight September 15, 2020 at 2:41 am #

    I’m a little bit concerned that the world is flooded with fake ass environmentalists that need to be addressed as they jetset to their fake ass, choreographed events and protests and speeches and workshops. It’s truly a privilege that needs checking don’t you think? I mean, with all these “rumors” about forests being set on fire why am I not seeing demands to get to the truth and bring apparent perpetraitors to justice? Is not every tree that has potentially been maliciously burned not a victim of murder? What about helpless animals caught up in the fires? And I’m really serious in case you think its funny. If arsonists did burn the forests then they are mass murderers period. But has any of the usual suspects said anything outside of their stupid and useless global warming safe space derangement?

    • BackRowHeckler September 15, 2020 at 6:47 am #

      Looks like a tropical storm headed your way SSL. 10″ of rain possible.

      • SoftStarLight September 15, 2020 at 9:39 am #

        Have you been watching the coverage of the storm? What a strange hurricane huh? Just sitting there parked not real far off shore spinning and spinning. But I have always thought hurricanes are actually really strange. Fortunately we are well west of the track now so its actually a beautiful morning here with a slight breeze and a few fluffy clouds passing by pretty quickly.

        • JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 10:26 am #

          Remember Harvey, did the same thing. Almost like an intelligence is moving the storms to follow the path of max damage.

          • SoftStarLight September 15, 2020 at 12:10 pm #

            Omg yes! Harvey was actually really bad. We had over a foot of rain here from that storm and I am nowhere close to Houston at all. Yeah I know what you mean. It does seem like the storms have a mind of their own. But it seems like the earth is a living organism so I suppose its no wonder that the processes of the earth and climate seem intelligent and by design.

    • GreenAlba September 15, 2020 at 10:44 am #

      “I’m a little bit concerned that the world is flooded with fake ass environmentalists that need to be addressed as they jetset to their fake ass, choreographed events and protests and speeches and workshops. It’s truly a privilege that needs checking don’t you think? “

      You have my complete backing in that. Some of us just choose to walk the walk, without a loud hailer, by getting rid of our cars, pretty much giving up flying, and watching our consumption. But we are too few to make any difference.

      But here’s the thing … Those hypocritical attention seekers don’t have the slightest effect on the validity of climate science, any more than I’m sure you’d consider any of those greedy tee-vee gospel merchants, raking in money from the gullible to finance their fancy-car, fancy-women lifestyles have any effect on the validity of that gospel. In both cases the hypocrites are irrelevant. Damaging to their respective causes, but irrelevant. Same as the arsonists. Equally damaging, equally irrelevant to the validity of the science (not the headlines, the science).

      • SoftStarLight September 15, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

        I don’t see how you could be more wrong Alba but I am happy that we found a space for agreement. What I mean is basically the hypocritical global warming purveyors may not have an effect on the validity of the science, but as I said, they aren’t really worried about the science. Do you not admit that that global warming purveyors and preachers have a complete and tightening stranglehold on public policy everywhere? Unlike the gospel merchants who are more and more actively purged from public life for better and for worse. So no the two are not even equal in that regard and no the global warming purveyors have not damaged their cause as they essentially run the government everywhere. Plus, if people are silly enough to invest in a drunk and womanizing preacher that is their business. Nobody has a choice though when it comes to the dictates of the global warming liars because they are all official government agents basically.

        • GreenAlba September 15, 2020 at 12:35 pm #

          It seems you could not be more wrong either, SSL.

          I’ve just explained that the science behind AGW is not affected by the people you don’t like (I thought we were talking about the jetsetters going to conferences, but perhaps your scatter gun had a broader target).

          If a Minister for the Environment, duly elected and appointed, makes political and economic decisions that aim to limit his/her country’s contribution to AGW, then that person is not in any way dishonest, but is following the science which shows AGW to be valid.

          I know you don’t like it, but you never will. It doesn’t make it any less true. As I’ve pointed out elsewhere, we live in an age where people prefer to deny the truth than to live with the unpalatable consequences of that truth. Or rather with attempts to deal with that truth. The consequences of the truth you will be living with anyway. Nature bats last. Especially over your way.

          • GreenAlba September 15, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

            Although nature’s batting quite strongly here too. The flooding has given us the worst wheat harvest in years.

            As JHK has pointed out, this is where climate change will be felt most, and indeed is being felt already.

          • Rupert September 15, 2020 at 4:56 pm #

            AGW being real or not is immaterial to me, as my preferred solutions to mitigate risk from such things are ‘hateful bigotry full of hate’ and what have you, and I’ve no desire for the establishment solution- a combo of greater central control by people I despise and neoliberal market gimmicks (lol carbon credits).

            There ain’t no gettin off of this train we’re on. If we’re lucky, we run out of high bang for your buck EROI oil before too much damage can be done and party with the reaper and the four horsemen while demographics aren’t yet completely against us.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 10:05 am #

            Rupert

            “There ain’t no gettin off of this train we’re on.”

            Sadly, I tend to agree with you there.

            But I think that climate change will just make things harder once the train has derailed. It’s one thing rebuilding a city after it’s been devastated by a storm and flooding, while you still have the infrastructure (and insurance arrangements) to deal with it. It’s quite another to deal with worsening and more frequent storm and flood damage when you’re entirely on your own. And producing food will be more precarious in climates showing greater extremes of weather, just when there are no fossil fuel inputs to help.

            All this was dealt with years ago in the Stern report (well, not the lack of fossil fuel inputs), when Stern predicted that, if we did nothing about AGW, the world would eventually bankrupt itself.

            But I guess we’d probably agree it’s going to bankrupt itself anyway, so it’s all a matter of timing and variants.

      • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

        “Same as the arsonists.”

        Hey, look everyone. They exist now.

        Just another day in the world of our resident narcissist.

        LOL.

        • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 6:02 am #

          Narc-troll, I didn’t deny the existence of arsonists. I denied that their existence invalidates AGW science. Just like I didn’t deny there were gay men, just that they didn’t cause floods.

          We had the same discussion about Australia, when I pointed out that some of the arsonists were firefighters. NONE of it invalidates AGW science.

          You are a tragic troll, Narc.,

          • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 8:51 am #

            Here is my trick:

            Make suggestive (but true) statement.

            Watch the narc. rage, spit ad homs

            Post the proof.

            Profit.

            LOL.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 9:34 am #

            So, the narc who can’t just respond to people without calling them ‘low-IQ’ talks about ad-homs. Funny. And people can’t just be responded to – they have to be ‘rekt’ and ‘owned’ (‘brutally’).

            Does all that staring at your reflection in the pool not give you ANY self-awareness?

            You call yourself an editor, and you can’t even identify rage or the lack of it in the written word.

            Sad little troll.

            Let me try again:

            I didn’t deny the arsonists.
            I denied that their existence changes the science of AGW.

            I’m sorry you can’t get that, no matter how patiently and ragelessly it is explained to you, but that is your problem.

            Try to recall your ranting about HCQ and all the ‘FFS’s that entailed. All for Donny and Ronny. Rage? Don’t make me laugh.

            Waiting for the bot to recalibrate …

          • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 12:34 pm #

            The only people I refer to as low IQ are you and Jello.

            And your friend Cargill, but he was banned.

            Most people here are quite intelligent, several far more than myself.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

            “The only people I refer to as low IQ are you and Jello.

            And your friend Cargill, but he was banned.”

            Not true.

            And you remain a troll. Sorry.

  64. Kim September 15, 2020 at 3:31 am #

    Here is another good pro-American thing that Trump has done. (The list is so long, itis easy to miss sme things)

    Remember this? He stopped the Post Office subsidy of Chinese imports. What a great, pro-American president!

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/2018/10/18/china-postal-subsidies/38203951/

    The treaty, which sets fees that national postal services charge to deliver mail and small packages from other countries, gives poor and developing markets lower shipping rates than developed nations. The agreement – and another one building on it signed between the U.S. and China postal services in 2011 – has essentially given Chinese merchants a $170 million annual subsidy to ship products directly to American homes.

    “Chinese sellers on eBay and other platforms may disappear, or at the very least they will not find it so easy to sell to Americans anymore,” said Gary Huang, chairman of the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai’s supply chain committee. “This has been a big advantage for them for many years and how they’ve beat out the American seller on their own turf.”

    The loophole can be seen in shipping options that Chinese eBay sellers and other major e-commerce portals offer. On AliExpress, Internet giant Alibaba’s e-commerce portal for international buyers, shipping is free if a pair of $10.29 yoga pants are transported via ePacket, the name of the subsidized service by the U.S. Postal Service. The other shipping options, via private courier companies like FedEx Corp., United Parcel Service Inc. or DHL Worldwide Express, range from $40 to $60, essentially hiking the total cost of the pants.

    • Shenandoah September 15, 2020 at 3:53 am #

      Is it really pro-American if Americans now have to pay a lot more for stuff from CHina?

      • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 7:29 am #

        Yes, Cargill. Yes, it is.

      • Kim September 15, 2020 at 8:28 am #

        @ shenamdoah

        Huh? It was a subsidy from US taxpayers to retailers located in China.

        This is your idea of a path to economic success?

        Please, please stay out of government.

      • JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 10:24 am #

        If the goal is to bring industry and jobs back to the US, you better believe it. Trump won the presidency telling the job losers of the rust belt he would fight for American jobs. You have to pay 10% more, tough!

  65. SoftStarLight September 15, 2020 at 10:05 am #

    The corona narrative is falling apart. A federal judge has ruled that Pennsylvania governor Tom Wolf’s lockdown orders are unconstitutional. There are at least hundreds of other cases against the lockdowns working their way through the court systems too. And now isn’t it so hilariously amazing that all of those officials who told us life would never return to normal until a vaccine was available are now saying that a vaccine may not be the answer because the Trump administration is developing it lol. Trump says he will have a vaccine in a few weeks. But now the Dems are saying they won’t take it because it was rushed through and won’t be safe. China said they will have a vaccine by November. I wonder how many Dems will be clamoring for the China vaccine and talking about how much better and safer it is than the US vaccine?

    • JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 10:21 am #

      You are right.

      Politicians are insane. Probably the greatest threat against the American system is the unbelievable ignorance and stupidity of the people that are making decisions for the rest of us.

      Disease prevention is unconstitutional, that is insane.

      Okay, no masks, no separation, no indoor reductions of viral loads, just let everyone do nothing to limit the disease.

      Are you saying that nothing is going to happen, surge wise. If so, you are delusional.

      If you are saying, go back to normal and come what may. The very limited health care system in the country will be overwhelmed in two weeks with the result of more deaths and serious life long injury due to a lack of medical care. The science of this says that we are at about ten percent involvement now. If we just let it go, the Ro of Covid sets the herd immunity at 85%. So we surge up to 85%, and as New York showed, it will go up quickly.

      Young folks will not be affected much, but as the total number of all ages get the crud, co-morbidity and just the mortality rates will become societal issues. Try walking into an ICU and talking your “let it go” philosophy with the family of a Covid patient that is dying.

      Easy to say.

      • SoftStarLight September 15, 2020 at 12:26 pm #

        Or maybe you are delusional John. Have you considered that? The officials have lied so much about the virus who even knows what is real about it and what is not at this point. I haven’t worn a mask or been “separated” for a long time now and all is good. Life goes on. Our bodies were made to encounter and deal with bugs and germs were they not? You are letting their zombie narrative infest your mind. Don’t let them eat your brain ok!

        • Rupert September 15, 2020 at 4:52 pm #

          I stopped listening to our ‘medical experts’ when they decided that ‘racism’ was a bigger health concern than this virus.

          Also, apparently the virus is intelligent enough to detect if a gathering is ‘good’ (left leaning protests, looting, riots, arson) or ‘bad’ (church, weddings, funerals, daily community life). I’ve no reason to trust the priests-in-labcoats with their fake new religion.

          • SoftStarLight September 16, 2020 at 3:34 am #

            Yeah that is a good point! Apparently the virus has political sensitivities and moral imperatives. Who would have guessed!?

  66. JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 10:31 am #

    Kamala Harris is talking about the Harris Administration. Good choice, Biden. Hope you are watching your back.

    • benr September 16, 2020 at 11:04 am #

      Now even smoky joe bidet has called it the harris/biden ticket.

      Joe can’t get it right thrice the bridesmaid never the bride.

      What an absolute joke no way Harris has the gravitas to pull it off without massive voter fraud.

  67. stelmosfire September 15, 2020 at 10:46 am #

    We’ll never really know what the Covid death rate is until 2 years from now when the actual annual death rate and cause of death statistics come in for 2020. That is if the numbers are not fudged. Annually in a normal year the USA averages 2.8 million deaths. 7,700 per day. I suspect the numbers will go up for 2020 but not due to the Covid. Most likely delayed surgeries and diagnosis due to lockdowns. Not to mention murder and suicide rates will be up. I myself had a surgery scheduled for April, 2020 which was put off for 3 months. What’s a little extra pain? Take one for the team, Eh!

    • benr September 15, 2020 at 11:15 am #

      I know two people who died not from covid but from all the stupidity around Covid.
      One had emergency surgery and they sent her home to recover but she got a bad staph infection and died. Had she been in a hospital they would have known to treat it by the time her family figured out she had issues it was to late.

      The other is a friends uncle not sure of the exact heart issue but he died from lack of direct access to a doctor.
      They wanted to do video calls and did not catch what ever was going on with him.

      • JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 11:33 am #

        Exactly, if all restraints are taken off the virus, ie no mitigation, your stories will be common place. That is what flattening the curve is all about.

        • benr September 15, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

          No John just no they died as a direct result of everyone not wanting to deal with Covid.

          Both areas one was in La Mesa and the other in Huntington beach the er rooms are all but empty.
          They died as a direct result of mitigation efforts not due to covid itself BUT TO MUCH WORRY OVER IT.
          Its time to take a closer look at the realities of whether Covid is as bad as they tried to make it out.
          H1N1 and SARS-1 was bad and nothing was shut down as a result of those two infectious nasties.

          • GreenAlba September 15, 2020 at 12:26 pm #

            There was an advantage with SARS-Cov-1, in that it was not transmitted by asymptomatic carriers, only by the symptomatic. So, while it was more deadly, it was MUCH easier to contain.

            Janos, of course, insisted again quite recently that SARS-Cov-2 is not transmitted asymptomatically.

            That only leaves two options, if we are to consider it transmissible ONLY by the symptomatic:

            (1) Malign intent

            (2) Stupidity.

            On a global level. Everywhere.

            Not for me to say which it would be, obviously, in that scenario.

            But by saying that, I’m not supporting eternal lockdowns, in case any of the usual hard-of-thinking trolls are about. Just pointing out a difference in modes of transmission.

          • benr September 15, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

            @GA

            The biggest question not answered to date is why China closed down travel internally from wuhan but allowed external travel from wuhan to the world.

            China needs to be held accountable for all deaths as a direct result this really looks intentional and a direct biohazard attack upon the rest of the world.

          • GreenAlba September 15, 2020 at 12:45 pm #

            benr

            I have sympathy with your view of China’s guilt on various counts. Secretive societies rarely lead to healthy outcomes in any context.

            But, practically, I don’t know what you can do. I have no time at all for the government in Beijing or its cronies, but I have plenty of sympathy for the Chinese people. And from a practical POV, China is a potentially aggressive force whose aggression needs to be managed. Pyrrhic victories are of little use in the real world.

            But you are right that it could have been contained within China, if things had been done differently (well, probably, or maybe, since we have to acknowledge asymptomatic transmission).

            However, I find myself wondering, if it had started in Kansas instead, like the 1918 flu, would calling it a hoax for a couple of months have helped keep it in Kansas?

          • Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

            I said transmission was very rare. The reason I said it was because the WHO said it. Then of course the WHO bureaucrats got in and fixed that little unwelcome piece of data because it destroys the whole narrative.

            The Uncertainty! And people’s inability to deal with existential dread. That’s what they’re banking on. Look at what they’ve done to poor John. You don’t worry as much but as a “practical” person, you’ll follow whatever they tell you to stay safe. So you’re in the Camp of Unrighteous as well.

          • Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 2:13 pm #

            Here is an intelligent article by a young doctor, hiding her identity in order not to be fired. She addresses what no one else is willing to grapple with: the all important issue of water droplets. Towards the end she proposes an experiment that might settle the issue. But of course very few want it settled since health isn’t the issue.

            https://christinajones1.wixsite.com/website/post/what-s-behind-the-mask

            For her part, she believes that fitted N95’s probably would reduce transmission. But she doesn’t know if that’s a realistic thing to expect a population to do.

            Note: She doesn’t bring up what happens when the droplets dry on the exterior of the mask. I’m the only person I know about who has thought of this issue.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 5:20 am #

            “I said transmission was very rare. ”

            If asymptomatic transmission were rare, the thing would still have been closed down by now. That bit isn’t rocket science.

            I wouldn’t want you to worry over-long about being the only person who’s thought of drying particles, so here’s something to help you out:

            https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0012009

            “Likelihood of survival of coronavirus in a respiratory droplet deposited on a solid surface”

            It’s quite mathematical, which I realise isn’t your strong point, but maybe this bit will help:

            “The virus needs a medium to stay alive; therefore, once the droplet has evaporated, the virus is not expected to survive. “

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 5:22 am #

            And I have to say being called Unrighteous by a fascist is traumatic.

            Not.

            I’m going to carry on looking both ways before I cross the road too. Unrighteous? You don’t know the half of it.

            🙂

          • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 12:15 pm #

            Thank you Alba for finding an answer to my question (You didn’t think to ask it yourself and didn’t even think it was important, remember?). It needs a medium. The virus quickly dies as the droplet dries. But how quickly? Before it can get sucked in? Obviously this would be a matter of averages and it would need to be tested as my article stated.

            But good stuff. Point for Team Mask.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 2:09 pm #

            Sredni

            Thank you for your gracious post. If only Night Owl could manage such posts, this place would get nicer again.

            I have no interest in whether you wear a mask or not. Nor do I believe, from what I have read, that it will protect you much, unless you observe distancing too. If you were to stand over someone at work for 15 minutes it wouldn’t protect either of you much at all. But if you go to the supermarket among other people wearing masks, come out again and take it off (carefully), it might help you or someone else get a lower dose of the virus and become less sick. When I had to go down south by train, I took multiple masks. I presume, had there been any Covid transmitters on the train, that that would have helped slightly.

            Getting the virus but not getting too sick is a good thing, as far as I can see, since it helps achieve herd immunity (again with the proviso that we don’t know how long it would last), with fewer people getting really sick or dying. I’m not sure why that is an issue, but I certainly wish we could all stop talking about it.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 2:14 pm #

            I don’t mean that I wore multiple masks at once. 🙂

            Although this doctor did, to prove to the anxious that they would still get enough oxygen:

            https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/doctor-puts-on-six-face-masks-in-video-to-debunk-idea-that-they-lower-oxygen-levels-1.5025293

    • Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 1:53 pm #

      Yup. We’ll never know, both that reason and because they don’t want us to know.

  68. Q. Shtik September 15, 2020 at 1:52 pm #

    For a change I am stealing a page from BRH’s book:

    “2 killed, 6 seriously injured in New Brunswick shooting early Sunday morning.”

    It took some digging but I learned that one victim was a member of the community, a 28 year old ‘rising actor’.

    From the description of video cam footage it sounded like a very deliberate hit.

    For this theft of another commenter’s shtick, I grant BRH the right to identify and correct one spelling error or to point out the use of the word then that should have been than.

    • stelmosfire September 15, 2020 at 2:01 pm #

      Q, I thought Jersey had stiff gun laws. Don’t they work? How do people get these guns if it is illegal? What’s goin’ on there? Sleepy, Creepy, Uncle Joe wants more laws to restrict yer rights. Should I feel safer now?

      • Q. Shtik September 15, 2020 at 5:29 pm #

        Apparently the gun laws are only stiff for abiders. For criminals, not so much.

        In early 2018 I completed the rather rigorous process and had the documents in hand that would permit me to buy a gun and ammo but the nearest range where I could practice was 30 miles away so I didn’t follow thru. I realized I was not a gun kind of guy and didn’t buy one.

    • BackRowHeckler September 15, 2020 at 4:54 pm #

      Ok Q, I understand I’ve been granted a Single Use Ticket to Bust Balls, granted One Time Only permission for an exercise of nitpicking, soul crushing pedantry.

      I’ll be savoring this, husbanding it, waiting for the exact right moment to deploy this opportunity. And when you least expect there it will be, a pronoun corrected, a misplaced verb set right, a misspelled word spelled correctly.

      Brh

      • Q. Shtik September 15, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

        Oh, goody, I can hardly wait to see whose balls get crushed.

        • SoftStarLight September 16, 2020 at 3:29 am #

          You’ll be safe professor. I for one will always be well behaved in your class. I’ll try to watch my p’s and q’s as much as possible but you know me. Sometimes I’m just liable to do any ole thing. I can always stop by your office after hours if you think I could use a good grammar lesson lol

          • stelmosfire September 16, 2020 at 8:19 am #

            Ya’ll better watch it SSL. A stop by Q’s office means gittin’ bent over the desk for a spankin’ . If that is what it’s called these days. All the while being regaled with punctuation lessons.

        • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 4:35 am #

          You want a period after “goody,” not a comma.

          Have you ever worked in an editorial office, Q? Corrected the edits of three other copy editors in a fifth-round editing session? Found stuff that four people plus a proofreader missed right before the blueline?

          This petty stuff is the last refuge of a guy with either a massive inferiority complex or nothing to say — and I mean that in the nicest way possible. A wake-up call, perhaps.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 6:12 am #

            “Have you ever worked in an editorial office, Q? Corrected the edits of three other copy editors in a fifth-round editing session? Found stuff that four people plus a proofreader missed right before the blueline?”

            Oh. My. God. Too funny.

            And from someone who repeatedly can’t spell ‘millennial’ or ‘accelerate’. Repeatedly.

            And he means the other bit in ‘the nicest possible way’. I mean, it’s his actual trademark. Kimmy should be in here with a comment about passive aggression, but guess what …

            ROFL

          • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 8:41 am #

            I’ve been every where from a small magazine publisher, to WaPost, to the Nat. Academies, to my present employer.

            And one thing that doesn’t change: I get paid lots of money to edit documents.

            Dr. LARP just can’t win. And it seems to matter quite a lot to her.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 10:14 am #

            You didn’t even get what was funny.

            That’s what’s so funny, Narc.

            And you can’t let go, ever since HCQ. Just try. Balm for the soul.

            Every where. And any where.

            “I get paid lots of money to edit documents.”

            Wow. Don’t be telling the firefighters, or the coal miners, or the brain surgeons. They’ll feel diminished.

          • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 12:31 pm #

            Dr. LARP wanted to be an editor, it seems.

            LOL.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 1:55 pm #

            I had a rather different job in editorial. Not as well paid as yours, I’m sure, because margins are damned tight in medical book publishing. But more interesting to me than just being a copy editor. We used freelance copy editors, mostly from ex-employees of the firm. But dealing with copy editors was a production function and, as freelancers they didn’t earn as much as those managing the projects freelance, because they’re only a small part of the process.

            If you’re happy editing other people’s text all day, good luck to you. Not my cup of tea and beneath my pay grade both when I was working in the office and as a freelancer. But mostly tedious.

            But I’ve never come across anyone else on this site who feels the need to show off about his job the way you do. The narcissism is beyond belief. Or maybe it’s just insecurity. Who cares? You still can’t let go.

            Are you going to post your CV next? Go on, you know you want to. And your yearly appraisal reports?

            Jeez.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 2:24 pm #

            I actually wanted to be a farmer. Still wish I’d had the nerve.

            And my husband wishes he’d become a carpenter instead of a doctor.

            You don’t have much of a clue, do you? Maybe you spend too much time mixing with pretentious aspiring folks like yourself.

            Why don’t you just try quitting the insults and trying to be a nicer person? Much more important than your salary, I’d say.

    • malthuss September 15, 2020 at 5:39 pm #

      I read of a youth, a black ‘rising senior’ [high school].

      • Q. Shtik September 15, 2020 at 6:29 pm #

        No, he was 28 years old and finished HS in 2010 (at Franklin HS, the same school my wife attended 50 some years ago) and was a rising “actor.” The newspaper articles did not mention race but a slew of instagram photos made it clear he was Black.

        • malthuss September 15, 2020 at 8:07 pm #

          I meant to show how ‘rising’ is a new buzz word.

          wonder how the black-on-white murder project is coming along?

          https://www.koco.com/article/18-year-old-arrested-in-2016-death-of-82-year-old-oklahoma-city-woman-police-say/33982740#

          This is the second elderly white lady Antoine has killed. Burnt down her house too. He killed a previous one when he was 13.

          https://www.wptv.com/news/region-n-palm-beach-county/palm-beach-gardens/woman-killed-during-robbery-attempt-at-palm-beach-gardens-gas-station

          In this one – haven’t we read all of this before – 18-year-old Ezequiel Nunez killed wife and mother of two, Jacqueline Rae Barthelemy, 36, another evil white woman who made the terrible mistake of working in a gas station in an areas where blacks can be found.
          https://wpde.com/news/local/suspect-denied-bond-in-deadly-myrtle-beach-cook-out-shooting

          In this one Niko Juwan Williams, 23, is charged with murder of one (unarmed) man and injury of another (unarmed) man, attempted murder and possession of a weapon during a violent crime in connection to a deadly shooting in Myrtle Beach.
          Deceased is Albert “AJ” Soles (white) of Myrtle Beach.
          http://www.nnnforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=346881
          Charges upgraded against 2 suspects after man dies after bar fight
          Two suspects were charged with second-degree murder
          Updated: 4:12 PM CDT September 14, 2020
          WENTZVILLE, Mo. — A man has died, and two people have been charged after a fight at a bar in Wentzville.
          Charges against the two suspects were upgraded Monday, St. Charles County officials said.
          Devin Dodson, 24, was charged with second-degree murder and 30-year-old Deangelo Williams was charged with second-degree murder and armed criminal action.
          According to the Wentzville Police Department, a 27-year-old man was found in the middle of the street in front of a bar in the 100 block of South Linn Avenue at around 1:30 a.m. on Saturday.

          The man, later identified as Chaise Dunlap (white), was severely beaten and was suffering from a significant head wound.

  69. RocketDoc September 15, 2020 at 2:16 pm #

    I am comfortable with our voting method. We have 72 polling places for our 400,000+ community and use paper ballots with an optical reader. I recognize the Dem and Repub poll workers and they probably recognize most of the voters. I am in an upscale neighborhood and we will have 50%-75%(at most) vote. As you get closer to the source, the person who actually certifies the election results, there are more interested parties to ensure the results.

    I recall voting machines from the 60’s with their mechanical curtain and I always suspected that it was possible to program the machine to read x when I marked y. Computers would be no different with touchscreen voting.

    I am not sure where corruption would enter the picture in our system. Yes, ballots mailed randomly to the voter roles would be a problem. Absentee–not so much. There is a process– you sign. Could the non-voters be somehow “activated” by devious means? I think each of the 72 precincts are watchful in their own jurisdiction and at the County election board things surely are monitored. If not, for all these years, I have been entirely too trusting….

  70. Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

    It’s like that movie, “The Purge”. Those who believed in the New Constitution put little purple flowers on their doorstep so as to be left alone by the looters. Those who have the “In our America love wins” sign will be similarly be left alone. They hope…..

  71. Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 2:21 pm #

    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/09/09/todays-new-term-is-flock-workers-lung-the-disease-caused-by-inhaling-polypropylene-micro-fibers-from-you-guessed-it-masonic-magic-kleenex-burqas-of-dehumanizing-submission/

    Attn John Az and Alba. Wearing a mask is dangerous, just like not wearing a mask. Everything is dangerous. Avoid a nail find a pit. Jump the pit, get a zit. You are Dooomed!

  72. Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 2:28 pm #

    The Governor and his High Priests implored Trump to save his soul and America by joining the Global Warming Cult. He laughed at them! And said that, Just watch. It’s going to be getting cooler. They begged, “It’s science”! Trump replied, “I don’t think science knows actually.” Quote of the century.

    https://apnews.com/bd152cd786b58e45c61bebf2457f9930

  73. Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 2:41 pm #

    The Climate caught on film again …

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1305730178484592642

    • Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 3:03 pm #

      It’s like that movie, the Urge. They can’t help it. The fire inside themselves can only be quenched by setting fires outside themselves.

      Cooling teas like Roibos might help.

      • Night Owl September 15, 2020 at 6:12 pm #

        Must be deep fakes.

        LARP knows.

  74. wm5135 September 15, 2020 at 3:13 pm #

    The Smartest Man in the World

    One might assume that because the singular is used there would be one human that met the test. That of course would be typical of the results of assumption.

    I personally know several “The Smartest Man in the World”

    On a similar note cosmologists are convinced there is no “Center” to our physical universe.

    I know this is wrong because almost everyone I know finds themself to be the center of the universe.

    David Attenborough has a new film available for viewing. Don’t watch it! Just another librul attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of the righteous.

    American history began in 2009 amiright?

    Where do you guys get the raincoats that will keep you clean and untouched should the SHTF as you predict and seem to call for. I want one too.

    Camp of the Saints!! Morning in America!!

    Pudd’nHead Wilson on faith and social position, for the uninitiated.

  75. roccofire September 15, 2020 at 4:16 pm #

    Greetings JHK,

    Jared Diamond books and others point to environmental collapse, along with social, educational falling all lead to disorientation of a society and along with entropy., the party is over. You are right we need to readjust to the end of cheap energy. But, we wont, the thing that truly scares me is that science, evidence based investigations can lead us out of the cave to the stars, but right and left wings hate science because it destroys its narrative. ANYWAY GET A FLU SHOT. 40 years a front line hospital worker , still I am one. Microbes, and the whole assorted families are billions of years old, yes Earth is 4.6 billions years old, Happy Birthday. They the viruses do not care about your politics or religion.

    • Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 5:31 pm #

      Take the mercury, rat poison, and aborted baby cells out first and then I’ll think about it.

    • malthuss September 15, 2020 at 5:44 pm #

      Jared is a good propagandist but no scientist, kinda like Neil Degrass
      …Shot, no thanks. flu is not a major killer in USA.

      https://www.healthline.com/health/leading-causes-of-death#stroke

    • Kim September 15, 2020 at 8:07 pm #

      Jared Diamond does not believe that race is a factor in creating societies. Wrote a famous book about it.

      If the United States’ slaves had come from Japan rather than Africa – what happiness! – would the US be seeing the crime rates it has today?

      • benr September 15, 2020 at 8:47 pm #

        Is it culture or race?
        I believe culture is more cogent than race.

        • Kim September 15, 2020 at 9:33 pm #

          Culture is downstream from race. Obviously.

          Evidence: the world in front of your eyes.

        • BackRowHeckler September 15, 2020 at 10:15 pm #

          Good question Ben, but if you ever find yourself living in a city where the Mayor’s first name is ‘Lovey’, and the Police Chief’s first name is ‘La’Ron’, as is the situation in Rochester, NY, where PCP addict Daniel Prude met his untimely end, its time to make tracks toward the exit.

          Brh

          • benr September 16, 2020 at 11:26 am #

            Yes flawed culture.
            As we see the ghetto gangbanger culture is also corrupting people all over the world and has been for many years.

            In 1996 I did a Unitas with the US Navy and one of the locations we pulled into was in Chile some remote fishing town at the time.
            As we were wandering around sampling Beer and Chilean culture we had several different groups of young Chileans come up to us to tell us how Gangstar there were and yes they used the term Gangstar.

            Had the saggy pants oversized shirts and hoodies and basketball shoes.
            All I could think of was why me?
            I was as far as one could possibly get from that culture.
            Blonde hair blue eyes dressed in Surf culture attire.
            Worse they seemed to be looking for some sort of approval all they got was an eye roll and us moving on.

  76. Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 5:36 pm #

    The Party’s just getting started. We’ll build Fortress America and sit tight while the World burns, freezes, and dies. We’ll reemerge stronger than ever with an all but infinite amount of coal to burn. With the Corporations either dead or loyal, the forces that suppress science for profit will be gone as well. We’ll get fusion power in short order and begin building space ships. A small number of Blacks will rule themselves and eek/eak (don’t know which which is strange. It’s a great word) out a living in the deep South. The rest will have disappeared. Freedom is a tough thing. As many ex-slaves starving on the streets of the Old South exclaimed, God damn freedom.

    • Kim September 15, 2020 at 8:16 pm #

      @ Sredni

      “We’ll reemerge stronger than ever with an all but infinite amount of coal to burn.”

      Coal no longer lays around on the surface of the earth.

      There are some places in Kentucky I believe where men still go down the mine every day and dig out enough coal to sell for their basic needs (I watched a tv show about them – hard, hard work) but nobody will be building any kind of mighty society on the back of it.

      But it might be a good idea for people who prep and are in the country to get a few trucks of good quality coal dumped on their property while they still can. It is probably cheap.

      • BackRowHeckler September 15, 2020 at 10:08 pm #

        You know Kim, one of my neighbors has a coal burning stove, uses it for backup. Each fall he has bags of coal delivered to his house on a pallet. It’s a nice steady heat from that stove, keeps the whole house warm, and leaves him less dependent on No. 2 heating oil, which is main fuel around here for running furnaces.

        Brh

        • Kim September 16, 2020 at 1:42 am #

          Yes, I am serious about getting in a good sized hill of coal on your property if you have some spare space. Easier than gathering and chopping wood. It will burn wet and it may even be barterable.

          • stelmosfire September 16, 2020 at 9:03 am #

            Coal is very plentiful in the US. That rock hard anthracite from PA is High carbon . Burns clean with little ash. That shit from out west is dirty but we have centuries worth. Global warming. Blah, blah, blah. California and Australia burn. What else is new. Old news. Don’t build in desert woodlands. Predictions? I make predictions. California gets tons of rain this winter and the mudslides carry away the damn hillside houses. which should have never been there in the first place. Old stodgy inland New England. we get a blizzard or two but we seem to muck along just fine , thank you very much.

          • BackRowHeckler September 16, 2020 at 2:38 pm #

            That’s right Rip.

            Snow melts off in the spring no matter how grim the situation appears to be around Feb. 1.

            We’ve got houses on Main Street built in the 1650s, people still living in them.

            Brh

          • stelmosfire September 16, 2020 at 9:41 pm #

            And damn fine houses they be BRH. I love the architecture in Western CT. Old and will never go out of style.

  77. Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 7:11 pm #

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-rogan-suggests-kardashian-b-212753587.html

    kardashian bitches caused Jenner to transition. “If you live with crazy bitches long enough, they can fucking get into you.” Rogan, completely bald and thus no spokesman for Rogaine, is one of our greatest philosophers and orators.

    “We lost one of our greatest athletes”. Throughout the episode, Rogan kept calling Jenner by her “deadname” or the name she used to have when she was a he.

    Deadname. Wow. When did that fucking start? I got up today and the world was different. How do I ever know I’m in exactly the same reality or world I was in yesterday? It seems slightly different. They’re good, but nobody is that good. My hair is different too – fuller and less like Rogan.

    • SoftStarLight September 16, 2020 at 3:16 am #

      They are doing every thing they can to confuse you. The Mandela Effect, DARPA, etc. Deadname is a partcularly pernicious term isn’t it. To me it sounds angry. If you were happy that you shed your previous self wouldn’t you call it your Larvaname?

      • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 12:26 pm #

        I guess some of them really hate what they were before. Larvaname, lol. Remember how Buffalo Bill used to put a pupa in the throats of his victims?

        • SoftStarLight September 17, 2020 at 10:49 am #

          Yes I do but I can’t recall what the significance of it was right now other than the whole transformational symbology of it all. I remember they were pupa of death-head moths which are really sort of strange creatures in their own right.

  78. JohnAZ September 15, 2020 at 7:18 pm #

    Done arguing!

    Do what your mind tells you to do.

    Nothing you have said has changed my feeling of what is the right thing to do. If ALL people would just separate themselves from others by whatever means they want, the economy would be open NOW with little transmission.

    I hope you’all never have the misfortune of getting the crud, or especially giving it to someone else. I do get the feeling you don’t care anyway.

    I will wear and clean my mask as I have, and will stay away from large concentrated groups. Do what you will.

    • SoftStarLight September 16, 2020 at 3:04 am #

      John it seems like you are taking things a little too personally again. I don’t criticize whatever precautions you feel you need to take for your welfare and safety. If you want to wear a mask and social distance I think you should be free to do so. If others choose not to wear a mask and social distance that should be their right too. A lot of people are not that worried about the virus. My problem is coming in when these government tyrants and petty little callous dictators are enforcing terrible, devastating, and deadly policies based on semi and pseudo science. I still hope to see you investigating the deadly side effects of the shutdowns too.

      • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 4:24 am #

        John is a good guy, but midguided. And the misguided enable the tyrants.

  79. elysianfield September 15, 2020 at 7:24 pm #

    Well, assembled readers, lean close and harken to wisdom;

    I can say, with all modesty, that I have the solution to crime and racial strife in America. It is not difficult, not ultra-legal…as a matter of fact, the methods currently exist. The cost would be negligible, there would be no public outcry, few detractors*

    *This assumes, of course, that solutions are actively sought to solve these problems.

    A person can enter any embassy, probably any post office, and sign a form renouncing his US Citizenship.

    Consider a person convicted of a felony offense. On his first conviction, all resources of the State would exist to provide for his rehabilitation…education, etc.

    On the conviction of a second felony offense, the person would be given a lengthy jail sentence, warehousing in effect, with no further attempts at rehabilitation…no parole, no good time.

    On the conviction of the third felony offense, a person would be, by law, removed of his citizenship, given a stipend equal to the cost of one year’s incarceration, and a one way plane ticket (coach) to any country that would accept him/her. If a family chose to stay with their felonious member, they could also renounce their citizenship and be given drayage…a person convicted of the first or second felony could also opt for the disenfranchisement, rather than prison.

    There are many countries, either willingly, or under duress, that would accept these new citizens (and their stipend).

    Who is to say that their birthright might provide enough money to give them a fresh start in another country? Who is to say that the host countries would find their antics “troublesome”? Why would this not work? You can sell a kidney, why not a citizenship you do not value?

    Seriously.
    .

    • elysianfield September 15, 2020 at 7:26 pm #

      “Ultra-legal”…meant Extra-Legal.

    • Kim September 15, 2020 at 8:21 pm #

      @ elysianfield

      “There are many countries, either willingly, or under duress, that would accept these new citizens (and their stipend)”

      Okay, so China would accept the prisoner and the stipend, execute the prisoner and sell the organs for $100,000. Profit!

      But what would China then do with all of those Uighurs and Fa Leuhn Gong they have in storage?

      • elysianfield September 16, 2020 at 12:06 am #

        “But what would China then do with all of those Uighurs and Fa Leuhn Gong they have in storage?”

        Kim,
        Well, I hear pork is in short supply….

    • elysianfield September 16, 2020 at 11:45 am #

      Srendi,
      My seed falls on stony ground.

  80. beantownbill. September 15, 2020 at 7:33 pm #

    Here are some things I think about:

    1. Can you believe anything the MSM publishes?

    2. Not depending on what various media say, physics, particularly the relevant branch of it known as thermodynamics, states that energy produced by any source will cause a rise in the temperature of that system proportional to the extent that the system is closed. The Earth is a somewhat closed system because although our atmosphere let’s in radiation from the sun, it doesn’t allow all of it to bounce off the surface and re-radiate out; the oceans are also a heat sink (because they’re almost all liquid or frozen water) as they absorb sunshine and don’t readily re-radiate it.

    The above is not an opinion written by a media or political hack, it
    is a fact of classic physics that has allowed us to build or present-day civilization.

    Further, human activity burns energy as any conscious human knows, and therefore MUST increase temperature. How our planetary environment handles this extra energy, and how it affects the climate is what defines the issue (Oh, I almost forgot, the the interior of the Earth produces a lot of heat, mainly through energy produced by radioactive matter in the core, and which finds its way eventually to the surface. Otherwise we would be much, much colder).

    The answer can be guesstimated. Climate scientists know approximately the total water volume on the Earth’s surface and atmosphere, and the composition and total volume of both. By knowing this, scientists know how much heat these systems can hold. When the oceans start soaking up heat, the temperature

    • Kim September 15, 2020 at 8:23 pm #

      All of the water on the surface of the earth boiled off millions of years ago.

      • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 12:28 pm #

        Just like the coal. Or maybe the dinosaurs used coal and that’s how they got rid of the oceans.

    • beantownbill. September 15, 2020 at 8:32 pm #

      I seemed to have posted this first draft by mistake. Geez!

  81. beantownbill. September 15, 2020 at 8:27 pm #

    Here are some things I think about:

    1. Can you believe anything the MSM publishes?

    2. The bottom line of climate change is that probably the Earth is in fact getting warmer because of thermodynamics, but we don’t yet know
    exactly what stages the climate will go through. I’m pretty sure I know, and my inclination was to describe it, but the more I thought about it the more detailed and lengthy an explanation was necessary, so I’ve dropped it. The best comment I can make on this subject is anyone that just states we’re entering an ice age or an era of ever-suffocating temperatures is just blowing smoke (pun intended).

    3. I suppose everyone likes to throw in their opinion on the election. My take is simple: It makes no difference who wins, and no one knows what will happen. Anything else is just speculation.

    4. The statistics on the virus, as admitted by the MSM, is around 29.7 million cases and 930.3 thousand cases, per Fox News (I know I said not to trust the MSM, but I’m using their figures for the sake of argument.) for a death rate of around 3.1%. In the US, the percentages are the same. Some posters here are saying a few tenths of a percent. I’ll use the MSM figures. That means if everyone in the world catches the virus, then there’d be around 270,000,000 deaths. Given a total human population of 8.7 billion, that’s not an extinction event, although the loss was of life would be horrendous.

    I choose to wear a mask. Whether or not it’s necessary, is entirely my decision, based on my freedom of choice. So why do some posters here chastise those who do? Don’t you believe in freedom of choice? Ok, so by your opinion I’m being foolish. Big deal.

    • tucsonspur September 15, 2020 at 9:40 pm #

      Good for you, Bean. They chastise because they’re fools.

      Trump is most likely out. See here:

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientific-american-mag-endorsement-biden-trump-first-in-175-years-172808739.html

      • tucsonspur September 15, 2020 at 10:01 pm #

        Talk about quandaries. I don’t want Biden and I no longer want Trump.

        • Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 11:29 pm #

          Yeah cuz Biden said Trump is a “Climate Arsonist”!!!

          Or is because he laughed at the Newsome and his droogs? Said it was getting cooler? How cool is that? He will not serve!

          • tucsonspur September 16, 2020 at 5:13 am #

            Yes, he’s the Orange man with no juice, a cold clockwork with grinding gears and pulp between his ears!

        • SoftStarLight September 16, 2020 at 2:55 am #

          It sounds like you want billionaire technocrats and experts controlling every aspect of our lives. What is the significance of an endorsement from scientists? Scientists don’t have agendas?

          • tucsonspur September 16, 2020 at 5:03 am #

            What it sounds like to you and what I actually want are two completely different things. The agenda for dedicated, reputable scientists is to observe and study and to dispassionately explain their findings.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 6:52 am #

            Thank you for remaining sane on this point, TS. The agenda-driven (on whatever side) are a tedious pain in the butt.

            That’s a general point, SSL, not aimed particularly at you.

          • tucsonspur September 16, 2020 at 10:08 am #

            You’re most welcome, GA.

    • Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 11:48 pm #

      How perverse. We’re the ones being forced, not you. I have no problem with what you do with your face, but you people have a problem with what I do or don’t do with mine.

      • abcdef September 16, 2020 at 11:14 am #

        It is is not what you do with your face, Sredni Vashtar, that I am worried about. It is the stuff that can potentially come out of the bigger HOLES in your face that you could help spread, that I have a problem with…

        • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

          No, you have your mask on, remember? You’re protected – or do you not BELIEVE?

          Somehow you still seem more interested in my face than your own though….

          • abcdef September 16, 2020 at 5:28 pm #

            The issue, Sredni Vashtar is that it is to help you to not spread what comes out of the bigger holes in your face; it stays closer to you and helps it from coming in contact with the rest of the world. Those droplets that you spread are the problem, Sredni Vashtar. It is not foolproof–it just cuts down on spread. It is a small thing and it does impede on your freedom. Liberty is being mindful of the limits of one’s own and others’ rights when they conflict. In this instance, I think we work collectively for the greater good, irritating as it is.

            As I said, its not your face, it is what comes out of the larger holes in your face that interests me. Though, I am sure you have a lovely face :).

          • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 5:51 pm #

            Again the focus on my face. Why don’t you focus on your own? You have a mask – do you not believe in its efficacy? That’s heresy and you will be brought before the Inquistion to answer for it.

            I’m starting to think you folks hate us more than you love yourselves.

        • benr September 16, 2020 at 12:25 pm #

          The masks either work or they don’t.
          If you have yours on then don’t worry about me.

          Your more likely to pick up the virus from touching something anyway.
          Even more funny is the belief that spritzing something with alcohol and wiping it off deactivates the virus.
          It takes a literal bath in the stuff for over 30 seconds to deactivate it and even longer with soap and hot water.
          I say deactivate because it is not what we would call a living thing.

          • abcdef September 16, 2020 at 5:32 pm #

            Hi benr,
            “The masks either work or they don’t.” You get an A or you fail. Is that it? Hmm… I guess there is no room for a B or a D- either in your view of things…

            And I do not have to worry about you getting sick if you don’t wear a mask. That is on you. I worry that you spread the virus a lot because you are making ZERO efforts to contain the droplets that would harbour the virus and spread it, when it comes out of the larger holes in your face.

            I guess you don’t think that “viral loads” is a legitimate concept either?

        • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 12:31 pm #

          Instead of demanding we wear masks, they should just put an extra one on their face.

          One John understand the principle, he will be wearing a hundred masks.

          • abcdef September 16, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

            And I do as you suggest, Sredni Vashtar. I wear a cloth mask for others and a P100 for myself. But N95 and P100 masks are expensive and at times hard to come by. And nothing is foolproof here. It is a question of the amount of virus you pick up and the ability of one’s immune system to handle the virus quantity when it comes to us. My body is better able to repulse a small number of viral invaders than a big number, when they first appear. You just make it easier for the virus to win, Sredni Vashtar. Rain those droplets down upon us!!!! When you don’t wear a mask, you increase the odds that someone else will get ill, and perhaps die. Your freedom to not wear a mask in public around people does not outweigh others’ right to decrease their chances of catching the virus. Please stop supporting the virus!

          • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 5:53 pm #

            And when it comes time, we need to be dragged into clinics and injected against our will as per the Dershowitz Doctrine, right? That’s what this is really all about, isn’t it?

          • abcdef September 17, 2020 at 6:32 pm #

            That is as big a non sequiter as I am likely to see on this site today, Sredni Vashtar!

  82. Kim September 15, 2020 at 8:50 pm #

    https://www.rt.com/usa/500646-biden-videos-flagged-twitter/

    Videos of Biden touching young girls flagged as ‘child sexual exploitation’ by Twitter despite being official public footage

    Ha ha. Was this human intervention or was it another case of too much AI truthtelling?

    Reminds me of this one. The old truthtelling problem.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/12/google-racism-ban-gorilla-black-people

    Google’s solution to accidental algorithmic racism: ban gorillas

    Google’s ‘immediate action’ over AI labelling of black people as gorillas was simply to block the word, along with chimpanzee and monkey, reports suggest.

    Ha ha ha. I love science, as the leftists always like to insist.

    • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 4:22 am #

      Biden is a pedophile.

    • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 6:58 am #

      What the heck has that got to do with science?

      But interesting that it was the Graun that pointed out the ridiculous nature of the ‘incident’.

      How’s that apology coming on? Must be almost ready by now. Took me minutes to give you yours. Seconds, actually, once I’d seen my mistake. C’mon, you can be man enough if you put your mind to it. Just imagine you’re apologising to a man, if it helps. Or can’t you manage that either?

      It might give the Narc-troll courage to man up and apologise to capt spaulding for taunting him about remote viewing. That one’s been a long time coming too.

      • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 7:11 am #

        And don’t forget, Kimmy, that what I had to apologise for was reading a paragraph too quickly and confusing what you quoted for what you thought yourself.

        Imagine that. Horrendous, eh?

        But what you did was address a pile of egregious filth to me on the basis of your idiotic misunderstanding of the difference between making an abstract point and discussing personal experience or views.

        Maybe leftists are just better at apologising?

        ‘Narcissism means never having to say you’re sorry.’

        With apologies to Ali McG.

        • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 7:13 am #

          Not that I’m even a leftist – I have my own views on discrete matters, but I know what you folks are like with your need to categorise people who disagree with you about anything at all.

          • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 7:17 pm #

            Discrete. Like your support for abortion. Things you can’t defend but believe in.

          • GreenAlba September 17, 2020 at 12:16 pm #

            You know that’s not true, Janos.

            I am trying to see your good side today, so don’t make it any harder than it needs to be.

            And think you mean ‘discreet’. Offered only with generosity.

            I shouldn’t need to tell you this, because it’s personal. But I’m going to anyway, because I get fed up with people who think they know about you when they know nothing.

            When I had my first daughter I was 29 (by a week – she was due while I was still 28 but was late). During the pregnancy I was offered an amniocentesis to detect abnormalities. I turned down the offer because I knew that if I had an abnormal baby my husband would want the baby aborted, and I didn’t want the question to arise.

            With the second one, when I was 33, they offered the test to me again, but specifically asked (for reasons of cost) that I should only take the test if I were intending to abort the pregnancy in the case of an abnormality (otherwise there was no point). Again, I declined, specifically because I would have accepted the baby even if it were not normal. In the event my then-husband pretty much rejected his second child for almost two years because she wasn’t a boy. Imagine how he’d have felt about a disabled girl?

            I really wish you and others would not talk about things you know nothing about.

            The only thing my mind has changed about now is that I see no great problem with abortions in the very early stages when what is there is literally a small bunch of cells (I realise this is not the religious view, but there we are). Nor do I see any problem with the use of IUDs for contraceptive purposes, which amount, technically, to almost the same thing.

            Spontaneous abortions are incredibly common in the first three months of pregnancy (hence most people keeping the news to themselves until then). You can blame those ones on ‘God’ if you feel like it. Often they are imperfect embryos, which mother nature, or ‘God’ disposes of early since they likely won’t be able to live a normal life. Sometimes, when that is not the case, they just happen. I don’t see people giving them funerals, as if they were people, when that happens, even Catholics.

          • GreenAlba September 17, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

            Note that I don’t consider it my place to tell other pregnant women how to think, especially poor ones who are already struggling to feed the children they already have.

      • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 12:34 pm #

        Science (a method) is different than Science!. Science! is part of the Cult.

        Real Scientists don’t believe in absolute knowledge. Science! in contrast is nothing but absolutes.

        Of course there is a body of knowledge that can be used and depended and the result is technology. But it still only relative. At extreme velocities and minute sizes, Newton must give way to other theorists and theories.

        • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 1:37 pm #

          Janos

          Not sure what your post is meant to be relevant to, but thanks for the diatribe anyway. You seem to be the one giving ‘science’ a starting cap. without it asking for one.

      • benr September 16, 2020 at 12:34 pm #

        Twas Robert White who claimed to remote view and I suspect MR. White could not care less about what people think of his claims of remote viewing.

        • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 1:34 pm #

          I know it was, benr. But Night Owl got mixed up and baited capt spaulding about it. And couldn’t bring himself to apologise for the error the way most people do, that’s all.

        • Night Owl September 17, 2020 at 5:16 pm #

          It was in the context of a thread where both were involved and discussing their usual Manchurian Candidate conspiraces. I responded in a generalized manner, as all of their theories were the usual leftist Pootin nonsense.

          As so often with our resident narcissist, the recounting of the occurance is twisted to fit whatever it needs to fit, and is so petty and minor in nature as to be insignificant. See also HCQ.

          • GreenAlba September 18, 2020 at 6:17 am #

            HCQ, you’ll recall, was the issue that started your trolling of my posts. Energetically.

            Your position was that it was a cure for Covid because look at the clever people (that I used to work with!!). Mine was that we didn’t know enough, that all RCTs were showing no benefit, and that any claim that it was a cure needed to account for that.

            My position was vindicated by the information from the Pasteur Institute, passed on by one of the qualified medics on this board. You continued to troll me with your ‘low-IQ’ and ‘narcissist’ nonsense, even though you were wrong. And no post of mine could be left without a moronic ‘rekt’, or ‘owned’ or ‘so easy’, simply because your narcissism demands the last word, even when you have been proven so emphatically wrong. Even more so when you have been proven so emphatically wrong.

            The medic in question has advised you to take a stats course. He has also pointed out that you don’t know what you’re talking about on medical matters.

            Yet you talk to him as if it were you who had the relevant knowledge. And you still insist on your high IQ. One seriously couldn’t make it up. One of the things about a decent IQ is knowing that even if you know about politics (I had half a Joint Honours degree in Politics while you were still in nappies, but I don’t feel the need to advertise it as much as you) it doesn’t mean that you know about other things outwith your expertise, by some kind of personal halo effect.

            Dunning Kruger for Dummies.

          • GreenAlba September 18, 2020 at 6:21 am #

            And you’re a liar too.

            Evidence in this very thread.

            You only refer to ‘Jello’ and me as low-IQ, apparently, yet you said the same to Shenandoah right here, as you do to anyone you look down your arrogant, narcissistic nose at.

  83. canuckster10 September 15, 2020 at 8:57 pm #

    Well, I am well aware that the world is on the road to ruin. I’ve lost all hope, and with young kids, it hurts that much more. I’ve been saving up from my mundane occupation for years in order to take the family on ONE nice vacation to see nature at it’s best.

    We had planned on going July 2020, but obviously couldn’t. Then I thought we would have to just wait until July 2021, which wouldn’t have been too bad because I would have more money saved.

    Now, I can’t see us going July 2021. I had planned on going to the Southwest USA. I enjoy travelling in the USA. I can’t see the USA/Canada border being open for casual travel by then.

    This virus is doing a lot of damage to a lot of people in various ways.

    • beantownbill. September 15, 2020 at 11:27 pm #

      I spend 3 weeks or so every Feb. and March in Florida, to get a break from the winter. So far, looks like I won’t be going. I like to go to a casino and have fun. I won’t be going yet. I like to eat at my favorite breakfast restaurant, my favorite Mexican restaurant and my favorite Thai restaurant. I haven’t since February. Myself and another bunch of old geezers had a weekly poker game every Thursday at our clubhouse; no longer. Another friend who has Parkinson’s – haven’t been able to visit. There’s more, but I won’t go into that.

      I focus on what I do have: I got a great wife, tomorrow’s my daughter’s 52nd birthday, all of us are healthy, I have 2 lovely granddaughters. I’m not broke, saving more money because I can’t spend it as fast as I used to.

      Anyway, my point is enjoy what you got, not what you can’t do. Enjoy every day. If the world is ending, you can at least say you accomplished something, if you have a family, that’s infinitely more important than things.

      • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 7:24 am #

        Re your last sentence, beantownbill, there’s a lovely quote from Ray Bradbury’s Fahrenheit 451 that sometimes gets read at funerals. It was read at my nephew’s funeral a few months ago, because, while he’d been a troubled young man, due to mismanagement of an illness he did nothing to deserve, he’d left behind a beautiful little boy of three (who sadly lost his dad and his granddad in the space of less than a fortnight).

        “Everyone must leave something behind when he dies, my grandfather said. A child or a book or a painting or a house or a wall built or a pair of shoes made. Or a garden planted. Something your hand touched some way so your soul has somewhere to go when you die, and when people look at that tree or that flower you planted, you’re there.

        It doesn’t matter what you do, he said, so long as you change something from the way it was before you touched it into something that’s like you after you take your hands away.

        • beantownbill. September 16, 2020 at 11:31 am #

          That’s beautiful. I love to read stuff like that. A little off-subject, but did you know that Bradbury once appeared on Groucho Marx’s tv show ‘You Bet Your Life’ as a contestant back in the 1950’s? The program where if you spoke the magic word a duck would pop down and you’d win a cash prize. Bradbury wasn’t well-known at the time.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 12:23 pm #

            Haha – no, I didn’t know that!

          • stelmosfire September 17, 2020 at 8:06 am #

            I’ve touched a lot of people in the course of my career . I am always getting the “Hey you were at my house for my mother.” For me It was just another day. . For them it was a significant moment. I am sorry I don’t remember them all., but I tended to leave those thoughts at work .

          • GreenAlba September 17, 2020 at 1:21 pm #

            That’s good, StE. You live a little more if you live in other people’s minds too, in a good way.

        • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 12:37 pm #

          In other words, you no longer exist except as somone else’s memory. No spiritual person can be content with something so meager.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 1:31 pm #

            Nobody’s forcing you to be content with anything. Perhaps you could just not comment on things you don’t understand?

            I’d say living on in someone’s memory is better than fire and brimstone, but that’s just me. But I’m not interested in your religious finger pointing – any normal person would appreciate some beautiful words like that even if they were religious. The two ways of living on aren’t mutually exclusive.

      • malthuss September 16, 2020 at 11:39 am #

        Boca Raton calling?

  84. Kim September 15, 2020 at 9:30 pm #

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbcGVTOqS8c

    Chinese scientist interviewed on Tucker.

    Looks like we can go back to calling it “the China virus”

  85. tom clark September 15, 2020 at 10:14 pm #

    Let’s assume the political spectrum runs a scale of 1 to 100, with 100 an ultraliberal burn, loot murder gun owner and 1 an ultraconservative burn, loot murder gun owner. What if your “score” is 49 or 51, or maybe even 50? No place for us in today’s world. Sad. Folk music will save us. Thank you, Doc Watson. TC

    • Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 11:21 pm #

      We’re the Party of Love and Fun. Watch the Beverly Hills Trump rally turn into a Gay Dance Party courtesy of Ricky Rebel.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnzPEyTpByU

      C’mon hater, get down.

    • SoftStarLight September 16, 2020 at 2:50 am #

      Lukewarm is milquetoast. Eventually you will be forced to choose. At this very moment you at least have the opportunity to choose without being under duress.

      • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 6:46 am #

        “Eventually you will be forced to choose. ”

        Forcing you to choose is what *they* want you to do.

        IMHO.

        *They* being anyone who benefits or seeks to benefit from the pursuance of strife.

        • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 6:46 am #

          I think I’m kinda with sophia on that one. Amazingly.

          • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 8:42 am #

            “Must get Night Owl”

            LOL.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 9:41 am #

            Sorry, what?

            Is that your narcissism telling you everything is about YOU?

            Why am I not surprised?

            You seem to have forgotten that it is the Narc-troll that started all the ad-hom threads when presented with neutral evidence it didn’t like. And ALL the comments trolling about people’s IQs.

            Go back to October 2018, when you started making tentative and polite comments on this board. And check your progress.

            It’s educational.

          • benr September 16, 2020 at 11:32 am #

            @ga

            No it was not that has been going on here for a long time.

          • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 12:29 pm #

            You are a classic narcissist, which is why it is so easy to bait you.

            And it is hilarious.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 2:56 pm #

            You keep projecting and it fools no-one.

            Seriously, go back to your early posts. A different person.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2020 at 2:58 pm #

            And you don’t ‘bait me’. You just so desperately need to have the last word that you Can’t Give Up. And all since you talked about HCQ when you didn’t understand the issues.

            I feel sorry for you. You’re young enough to be my son and if you were I’d be embarrassed for you.

            *I’m an editor and they pay me lots of money.*

            Seriously, have some dignity.

  86. Sredni Vashtar September 15, 2020 at 11:45 pm #

    Ricky Rebel’s Walk Away video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1-6uGoXcF8

    Does he have a place in the Coming Empire? The Eternal Realm? Well,
    he’ll have to make some changes. But we’ll be there for him. We will not forget his support in the Days of the Empire. How about you? Why not get in on the ground floor?

    • SoftStarLight September 16, 2020 at 2:45 am #

      Lol, and just think, this was one of his tame hair days! I do think its wonderful to see people choosing to Walk Away rather than become Walkers. He is from that traditional liberal libertarian demographic so redemption is certainly a possibility but we’ll have to work diligently to refine that whole wanting more immigrants attitude. It’s such a common problem since its literally ingrained in the population as some sort of sacrosanct social good despite reality and facts. But that is just a little ole matter of deprogramming. We are fighting the most sinister powers and principalities of this world so we are happy to have allies.

      • Sredni Vashtar September 16, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

        Flaming Ricky only believes in two sexes. Things got so radical so fast that he would now be seen as a dangerous White Conservative.

        Poor J.K Rowling told the Mob (her young fans) that Dumbledore was gay. Completely gratuitious but still too little too late. They ate here alive (metaphorical, but many would actually do it if they could)
        for affirming that women exist.

    • Shenandoah September 16, 2020 at 4:03 am #

      You complete right-wing nut-jobs would love a Trump Dictatorship … but surely you could have found a better puppet?

      • Night Owl September 16, 2020 at 4:07 am #

        Cargill’s mask slips.

        Banned for a 5th time, perhaps?