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Contact with Russians.” Grown men and women, doubling and re-doubling down on a political fantasy, repeat this prayer hour after hour on the cable channels and Web waves as if trying to exorcise a nation possessed by the unholy hosts of Hell. But such vicars of the news as Wolf Blitzer, Rachel Maddow, Chuck Todd, and Dean Baquet (of The New York Times) only shove the country closer to a cliff of constitutional crisis.

To a certain class of people — a class that includes a lot of Intellectuals-Yet-Idiots, as Nassim Taleb has dubbed them — President Donald Trump is a figure of supernatural malignity who must be ousted at all costs. I did not vote for Donald Trump and I do not admire him; but I rather resent the dishonesty that is being marshaled against him, especially the mis-use of judicial procedure and the mendacious propagandizing of the nation in service to that end.

This is what it comes down to: General Mike Flynn, designated National Security Advisor, conferred with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak after the 2016 election about two pressing matters: a vote in the UN orchestrated against Israel, and sanctions imposed against Russia by outgoing President Obama on December 28, two weeks before the inauguration. Both these matters could be viewed as bits of mischief designed deliberately to create foreign policy problems for the incoming administration.

Flynn’s discussions with Ambassador Kislyak amounted to what are called “back channel talks.” These informal, probing communications occur all the time and everywhere in American foreign policy, especially the transitional months every four or eight years when a new president comes in. They are necessarily secret because they concern issues of high sensitivity. Every incoming presidential staff in my lifetime (going back to Dwight Eisenhower) has conducted back-channel talks with foreign diplomats in order to directly assess where things stand, minus public posturing and bloviating.

And so that is what Mike Flynn did, as incoming National Security Advisor, after an eight-year run of worsening relations with Russia under Obama that Trump publicly pledged to improve. And now he’s been charged with lying to the FBI about it. Which raises some enormous and troubling questions well beyond the simple charge, questions that suggest a US government at war against itself.

For instance, why exactly might Mike Flynn lie about his discussions with Kislyak? That ought to be self-evident as per what I said above: back channel talks are necessarily secret. But why not let Vice-president Pence or the FBI in on it? As for Pence, not all government officials are in-the-loop for back channel talks for the excellent reason that the fewer people involved the less chance of the talks becoming un-secret.

And the FBI? Why, in December of 2016, might Trump and his aides consider the FBI to be an unreliable agency? Because they knew that officials in the FBI under Director James Comey had politicized the agency in favor of his opponent in the election; that the agency had misbehaved in the Clinton e-mail investigation, the meeting at the Phoenix airport between Bill Clinton and Attorney General Loretta Lynch, and the Christopher Steele Russian intel file affair. We don’t know whether, at that point, Trump and his staff knew about the FBI’s conduct in the Uranium One deal. But there was plenty of evidence that the permanent bureaucracy of Washington wanted to use a politicized FBI against Trump in any way that it could to get rid of him.

And over the weekend, news comes out that Peter Strzok, the top FBI official assigned to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe of collusion between Russia and Trump officials, had been removed from the probe after exchanging anti-Trump and pro-Hillary Clinton text messages with his mistress, who was an FBI lawyer working for Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. This information was concealed from the congressional oversight committee that had formally subpoenaed emails from the FBI all year long, only to be stonewalled by the agency. So, now the committee is threatening contempt citations against the current FBI Director, Christopher Fry and Rod Rosenstein, his deputy

Why should President Trump not fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller now? Mueller was James Comey’s mentor at the FBI when Mueller was director. Is there not a train of association and dishonesty that implicates criminal activity by the FBI itself. And if and when Trump does this, and pardons Mike Flynn for the non-crime of back channel negotiation, should a new special prosecutor be appointed by the Attorney General to investigate the activities of the FBI through 2016 and 2017? And after all that, will the Deep State find some other way to go apeshit?

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  1. Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 9:33 am #

    Looks like we’ve got the political agenda for all of 2018 now. This will drag out through the midterms and beyond, which is more than likely its primary purpose in the first place. You’d think both the D’s and the R’s would be more wary about where all of this HRC orchestrated nonsense will lead, but they’re evidently just not that savvy anymore. Pass the popcorn! Should be great entertainment!

    • CancelMyCard December 4, 2017 at 10:24 am #

      There will be no 2nd American revolution.

      A revolution requires strong, capable leadership to pull the masses behind them.

      Leadership like that has not been seen in the US for decades.

      • Htruth December 4, 2017 at 10:40 am #

        It also requires a circumspect citizenry which is nowhere to be found: youtu.be/BufGd7PQk9w

        • K-Dog December 4, 2017 at 11:04 am #

          It also requires communication that does not rely on electronic devices. Perhaps half the population can understand the need to place everyone’s cell-phone in a car trunk before discussing strategy but enough will think it is unnecessarily paranoid to do so. These idiots will make joining up for the next American revolution suicide. Even placing your cell phone in a car trunk won’t really help, locations will already be known. These idiots, having never experienced Janos randomly repeating your sentences from personal phone conversations verbatim are unaware of the vast and active American surveillance network officially intended to detect terrorism but which is really there to keep everyone from revolting when the threshold into misery is crossed as collapse quickens.

          Typically, the IYI (Intellectuals-Yet-Idiots) get the first order logic right, but not second-order (or higher) effects making him totally incompetent in complex domains. In the comfort of his suburban home with 2-car garage, he advocated the “removal” of Gadhafi because he was “a dictator”, not realizing that removals have consequences (recall that he has no skin in the game and doesn’t pay for results).” – Nassim Taleb

          You can revolt without me. I’d be one of the first picked up if I was involved. I’m already on the radar.

          • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 11:43 am #

            Great post Dog! I have a feeling we’re all “on the radar.”

            As for any prospective revolution, it will definitely be televised (if only for the drone operators and security monitors), and it will be suppressed, no doubt violently. All that we’ve seen so far is just a preview of coming attractions.

          • Robert White December 4, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

            Being on National & International Intelligence radar ain’t no BIG deal if you are like me and are actually infinitely more intelligent than the God-damned Intelligence agencies & their functionaries. In brief, I have been on the radar for years now, and the ‘White Hats’ have even offered me full time employment which was promptly turned down after I explained that white hats & black hats mix like oil & water. Bottom line is that the International Intelligence community is decades behind the learning curve, and they are now fully dependent upon our nonconformity & creativity.

            Note: If you see my name on a blog you can be assured that the Intelligence community is right here too. Never assume that they are not monitoring all the discourses.

            RW

          • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 2:46 pm #

            WTF? I’m reminded of Von Danniken’s “Chariots of the Gods” and Piazza Smythe’s Pyramid Prophecies. Every detail of Pyramid aligns with something! Yes Kdog, you see everything is in relation to everything else at all times. The point is to see special relationships that imply meaning. The Pyramid seems to be aligned with the North Star or where it used to be. Everything else may be coincidental and conjecture there from.

            You insist on seeing my image as an Alien in a Space Craft when it’s really just a Pharaoh in his chariot going for a spin. I post a lot and you talk a lot – about similar subjects. There are bound to be coincidences. Sheesh.

            You’re gas lighting yourself.

          • elysianfield December 4, 2017 at 6:24 pm #

            “Note: If you see my name on a blog you can be assured that the Intelligence community is right here too. Never assume that they are not monitoring all the discourses.”

            Yes, those intelligence guys are a great bunch of people! I’d like to buy them all a beer. Thank you for your service….

          • trolleybill December 5, 2017 at 11:57 pm #

            Well thought out and explained which brings out that newsman inside you out…..This should go virile and I for one will post it on FB…..

        • outsider December 4, 2017 at 11:14 am #

          K-Dog,
          Which is why subversives should go back to the old technology of throw away flip phones without chips. The more high tech your phone is, the more the NSA controls you.

          • K-Dog December 4, 2017 at 11:51 am #

            In that case cell tower triangulation will come into play and once you are identified the identity of every phone near you will be determined by surveillance software.

            Start the revolution without me. Homeland Security reaps the benefit of surveillance technology developed at the CIA and FBI with billion dollar budgets. Switching to a throw-away phone is not going to compete with their technical capacity at all.

            When did you last try and buy a throw-away flip phone. Now all of these phones require ‘registration’ before they can work. No more just buy it turn it on and use it. The hole you thought was there has been plugged.

          • Ishabaka December 4, 2017 at 4:15 pm #

            Contrary to popular belief, human life can exist on planet Earth without a cell phone handy.

        • lostinspace December 4, 2017 at 11:53 am #

          Long time no see htruth, You have one fan that listens when he can. This black hole of money printing needs to be exposed. It is probably to late to do any good but we would sure feel better watching bankers, business men and politicians go to jail. Anyway I’d like to see you team with james as man on the street or basement as it were.

        • Calico December 4, 2017 at 1:51 pm #

          But mostly it requires money… The first revolution would not have succeeded with the financial support of the French.

          • Calico December 4, 2017 at 1:51 pm #

            without

      • PeteAtomic December 4, 2017 at 1:09 pm #

        You are probably right. I’m hoping that the federal gov’t disappears like the brats from the Wonka factory in Charlie & the Chocolate Factory. They all over reach annoyingly & get sent away one department at a time.

      • rhys12 December 4, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

        There will be no second American Revolution because the majority of the people are dependent on the Federal government in one way or another, as are most businesses. We are no longer a nation of independent, self-reliant farmers and craftsmen as we were in 1776. Most of the people today live in cities, and are dependent in every way on reliable electricity, water, food, transportation, and communications. Most of them simply could not survive a civil war, even if they were desirable of starting one, which they are not.

        My biggest fear is that we will descend into a pit of guerilla warfare and terrorism that will condemn millions to death, go on forever, effectively end both freedom and the Republic, and accomplish nothing at all worthwhile.

      • SteveO December 4, 2017 at 3:04 pm #

        It also requires a citizenry that are fed up enough with the status quo to lay down their lives to change it.

        So long as the lights are on and there is cheap beer in the fridge and Cheese Doodles on the shelf and 200 channels of sports and soft porn on the 70″ flat screen, the will be no revolution or uprising.

      • aibohphobia December 4, 2017 at 4:03 pm #

        CMC et al,
        No need to worry about real leadership. It tends to pop up when most needed.

        US politics is like a stagnant pond. When the water is quiet, the scum rises to the top and keeps everything else hidden. That is our natural state in times of peace (or business-as-usual).

        Stir up the waters with war or unrest, and the scum hides at the bottom. Real leaders rise to the top, sometimes with the advent of a new political party as happened in the Civil War.

        Do remember though that strong, capable leadership does not always lead to a beneficial result. Robert E Lee was the best General of the Civil War, but this did not bring a happy ending to the side he represented.

      • Piper Michael December 4, 2017 at 6:00 pm #

        Methinks thou aren’t paying attention… Alabama will decide…
        On the upside James, I think, I see an honest man…

        What if, windows start getting broken in media offices all over the country… do ya think the Media(American Opposition party) will get a clue that they, are Target #1 ?There are ‘revolutions’, and there are ‘uprisings’, with games within games…

        Hunger Games V anyone?

    • ..Captain America.. December 4, 2017 at 3:05 pm #

      **********************************************************
      As 2018 is to 1968.
      youtube.com/watch?v=BGLGzRXY5Bw

      Sent from the New Republic.
      dropbox.com/s/nv8sko6hpqm6tir/New%20Republic%20rev123.pdf?dl=0

      C
      A
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  2. My Point of View December 4, 2017 at 9:39 am #

    Everything about Trump, his family, his great-white-hunter sons Uday and Qusay his White House staff of grifters and paid liars, and his entire cabinet is execrable. This shit show has gone on for 13 months since the election and the sooner this circus folds its tent and leaves town the better the nation will be. We’ll clean up the elephant dung and move on as we always have to do after a GOP administration departs. The GOP that I voted for since Nixon has become a vulgar cartoon.

    As soon as Trump signs the tax bill into law he grifts himself a billion dollar cut to his estate so he can pay back his Russian bank loans before they break his wobbly knees. Once he gets his tax cut his work for Trump, Inc will be complete, he’ll call it day, resign before Mueller clobbers him, and leave us in the hands of the brain-dead evangelical midget Pence who will pardon the whole sordid bunch of neanderthals.

    Russia and China are existential threats to us, they’ve hacked into just about everything we own, and downplaying that thread is to play with fire….or as a man once said in the 1930s….Peace In Our Times. No sale.

    Will voters be repulsed enough to flip the House and Senate in 2018?

    • FincaInTheMountains December 4, 2017 at 9:50 am #

      Will voters be repulsed enough to flip the House and Senate in 2018

      Absolutely!

      But not your way

      • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 10:34 am #

        Agreed. This is all likely to backfire on the Dems. All of this is transparently partisan and pro-Hillary.

    • daveed December 4, 2017 at 10:04 am #

      Well said, My Point of View. But, careful…any harsh words against the
      Punk in Chief will automatically brand you as a hand-wringing Hillary collaborator or Obama-bot.

    • windward December 4, 2017 at 11:09 am #

      You are making far more sense, and most powerfully, than JHK did today,

      He says the Russia accusations are political fantasy, then he fantasizes: “Because they knew that officials in the FBI under Director James Comey had politicized the agency in favor of his opponent in the election.”

      This is astonishing. It was Comey’s re-opening of the Clinton email question eleven days before the election, and his second letter absolving her days later but still before the election, that threw the election to Trump. Just google it, “Comey threw the election to Trump”. For instance:

      politico.com/story/2016/11/clinton-campaign-email-comey-letters-threw-the-election-to-trump-231244

      I can see the outraged denials coming. I don’t expect them to rely on facts, but smoke ’em if you got ’em.

      A constitutional crisis may be developing, but it is not the fault of the FBI. It seems that JHK is bound to defend his first impression, expressed months ago, that the Russia story is bunk. No one except the guilty, if there are any, could have known that then. Any evidence that contradicts his first impression must be hosed to the gutter with high-pressure garbage from the right-wing nut jobs, some of which he gets by reading and some of which he generates, even though he is not that far gone yet.

      At least I hope not. His column on Keillor made a lot of sense to me. But that kind of argument is becoming scarce here.

      Both Clinton and Trump should be in prison. How did we get two of the most vile, repulsive characters in the country for candidates? I know the answer, but this is long enough.

      • Petro December 4, 2017 at 4:19 pm #

        Yes, “My Point Of View”, “Daveed”, and “Windward”—JHK will someday be embarrassed by his writings on this particular topic. I was puzzled by this, but I think it must be because his view comports with his investment in “Deep State” conspiracy theories.

        While I was initially skeptical about the Russian meddling story, it just keeps growing, and there is obviously much more than what is known so far—which is why it is, in fact, TRUMP who is constantly going “APE SHIT” over the investigation, raving tweets, trying to obstruct justice, and getting his people to tell lie after lie.

        • shotho December 4, 2017 at 5:16 pm #

          Could you be a tad more specific about the “Russian meddling story”. For instance, a little evidence that Mr. Trump colluded with any agent of the Russian government to interfere with our election would be a good place to start.

        • daveed December 4, 2017 at 6:21 pm #

          I don’t know what to believe about the Russian meddling/ Trump collusion story. Sometimes I wish the Mueller team would shut up, stop leaking tidbits, and finish the investigation, whatever their conclusions (even though I’d love to see Trump go down). But this constant trickle of (possibly relevant/ possibly not)…stuff…..is terrible. In a way, I’m in agreement with JHK, that the media are really piling on Trump.

          However…..the web of connections between Trump, his associates, cabinet appointees, family……and Russian oligarchs (including our man Vlad)….is astonishing and, seems to me, unprecedented. More than just “…contact with Russians”.

      • REMONSTER December 4, 2017 at 6:13 pm #

        Most concise and cogent post here. How can I vote you into some office?

      • DrGonzo December 5, 2017 at 10:00 pm #

        JHK hasn’t articulated a sensible worldview for at least 10 years. My personal favorite (after his perennial predictions of Dow 4500) is his recent assertion that none of the oil companies are making any money. LOL. That must explain why the bankrupt Koch Brothers are on their way to the poorhouse. I wish.

    • draupnir December 4, 2017 at 11:59 am #

      So sorry, I’ve been a Democrat all of my life from a long line of Democrats. I have voted their ticket since the Jimmy Carter election. I was a Bernie supporter, but in view of their absolute betrayal of their base during the previous administration, their conduct leading up to the Clinton nomination and their current behavior I feel I have no choice but to continue to vote with my feet – and I didn’t cast a protest vote for Jill Stein. Though I’m not a fan of Trump he got my vote and I will protest vociferously any serious attempt to remove him. I am simply so repulsed I don’t believe I will ever vote for another Democrat, and I will continue to lob my ballot grenades at them and do my little part to sow hate and discontent. I am inordinately pleased with the current disorder. I suspect I’m not alone in this.

      • Linda December 4, 2017 at 8:46 pm #

        I agree draupnir. I used to head a liberal PAC and have worked on dozens of Democratic candidate’s and issues campaigns. I am now an Independent and will NEVER vote for a Democrat again.

    • ladybuggun December 4, 2017 at 12:12 pm #

      You are exactly right. I cried when Trump was elected because he is a cheat, a moron, and only thinks of himself. I cannot believe people actually like him. I’m not sure our country will recover from him or the party who puts up with him. I will campaign against the GOP, I will vote, I will run for a community office. I will do anything I can to help.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 3:07 pm #

        Ladybug, get off my roses. Trump is the very image of Joseph Campbell’s Hero with a Thousand Faces, the sworn enemy of Communist Darkness, be it foreign or domestic.

        • outsider December 4, 2017 at 3:41 pm #

          Janos,
          For good or ill, Trump is the last of his kind. He is a throwback to the days of Andy Jackson, who killed the First Central Bank. That’s why they hate him so much. That’s why he received zero cooperation with his pro-Russia agenda. As long as he doesn’t go off half-cocked and start a nuclear war, he should go down as one of the great presidents. Who else could have shaken things up and scared the crap out of TPTB like the Trumpster? And it’s been a blast watching him do it. For that, we owe him a debt of gratitude.

      • hmuller December 4, 2017 at 6:33 pm #

        Oh Ladybug, now tell us how much you love the saintly and virtuous Hillary. We could all use a good laugh.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 3:04 pm #

      You are the problem. Hatred has made you irrational, willing to believe anything bad about Trump, no matter how ridiculous – like the made up piss dossier.

    • benr December 4, 2017 at 8:36 pm #

      Comparing Trump and family to Saddam and his sons is patently dishonest! In fact its down right disgusting.

  3. Elrond Hubbard December 4, 2017 at 9:53 am #

    U.S. vastly overstates oil output forecasts, MIT study suggests
    MIT researchers say the source of the miscalculation is the United States government’s faulty premise about better technology.

    “Turns out, America’s decade-long shale boom might just end up being a little too good to be true.

    “There’s no denying that fracking has turned the U.S. into a force in the global oil and gas markets, which has more than a few people abuzz about the prospect of energy independence.

    “But now, researchers at MIT have uncovered one potentially game-changing detail: a flaw in the Energy Department’s official forecast, which may vastly overstate oil and gas production in the years to come.

    “The culprit, they say, lies in the Energy Information Administration’s premise that better technology has been behind nearly all the recent output gains, and will continue to boost production for the foreseeable future. That’s not quite right. Instead, the research suggests increases have been largely due to something more mundane: low energy prices, which led drillers to focus on sweet spots where oil and gas are easiest to extract.

    “‘The EIA is assuming that productivity of individual wells will continue to rise as a result of improvements in technology,’ said Justin B. Montgomery, a researcher at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and one of the study’s authors. ‘This compounds year after year, like interest, so the further out in the future the wells are drilled, the more that they are being overestimated.’

    “Extrapolating from field studies Montgomery and his colleague Francis O’Sullivan conducted in North Dakota’s Bakken shale deposit, the research suggests that total U.S. oil and natural-gas production from new wells could undershoot the EIA estimate by more than 10 per cent in 2020. Things would get progressively worse each year after that as wells in various sweet spots are exhausted and technology fails to close the gap.

    “‘The same forecasting methods are used in other plays in the U.S., and the same dynamic is likely to be present,’ Montgomery added.”

    Not Trump-related, but news about depleting fossil fuels is always on-topic for this site. Have a great morning, everyone.

    • Bro Jobe December 4, 2017 at 10:26 am #

      Of much more interest and of far longer consequence than one potentially crooked US election between two candidates I did not like at all.

    • BC_EE December 4, 2017 at 10:40 am #

      Or they could simply have read David Hughes report. Academic weenies.

      postcarbon.org/publications/drillingdeeper/

      But the temple high priests of the god MIT have said it is so, and so it shall be.

      A bit of shade thrown MIT’s way – yup. I’ve worked all over the world with engineers from various countries and can safely say MIT ain’t all that (except Noam of course), just better PR.

      Anyway, David’s report is good reading and then the deductions can be made why Trans Canada abandoned the conversion of the Energy East gas pipeline to an oil/bitumen pipeline.

      The U.S. is in for some oil heartburn post 2020 should they continue on their fracking fantasy.

    • windward December 4, 2017 at 11:53 am #

      Thanks for that, and I would say it is related to Trump. America can’t be great if we are running low on energy, so in his mind [!] the energy must be there. It is just fake news if the EIA says otherwise.

      But what is the use of this: “…Instead, the research suggests increases have been largely due to something more mundane: low energy prices, which led drillers to focus on sweet spots where oil and gas are easiest to extract…”

      Won’t drillers will always go for the sweet spots first, if they can find them, regardless of the price? That is the only way to make the most money, or what they must always consider in that risky business, lose the least The statement explains nothing to me, but the authors think it is a revelation. Maybe their conclusion is correct, but I don’t see how they can use this “finding” for evidence.

  4. newworld December 4, 2017 at 10:03 am #

    Basically the day to day ops of the D party and Prog. Inc. has been put into the hands of twenty something white girls or people who patronize that demographic, the party of Barbara Stanwick and Linda Evans.

    Every week a new outrage against our lovely daughter, only to be saved by strong womyn or men who place themselves at the disposal of said strong womyn.

    It has become a joke, at least the producers of “Big Valley” intended it to be a joke, but the total lack of self awareness of our supposed elite is beyond comprehension.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

      The Valley of the Dolls? Or that of the Ultra-Vixens?

      The lower Elite or Mandarins. The higher ones are brilliant and use these fools. As Stalin said, fools are the mainstay of Communism.

    • daveed December 4, 2017 at 5:39 pm #

      Your “Big Valley”/ Barbara Stanwick etc. metaphor is pretty esoteric, brother. I suspect that anyone under 60 may not get it. In fact, you’ll have to ‘splain it to me.

  5. outsider December 4, 2017 at 10:13 am #

    Admirable analysis by our host, Mr. Kunstler, whom, I believe, still calls himself a reluctant Democrat. Honest liberal Democrat commenters like Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley have offered similar analyses. When will this unholy Russia-hating Deep State orchestrated façade come tumbling down? I wish that Trump had, as a first order of business, ordered a Special Prosecutor to look into Hillary and the Clinton Foundation’s criminal enterprise. Might still happen. Lock her up!

    • outsider December 4, 2017 at 10:26 am #

      And beware of our Russiaphobic VP Pence. Perhaps he was left out of the loop for good reason. He was looking for a way to get rid of Flynn, why else bother asking the general what he was doing talking to the Russian ambassador. Then he blabbed to Trump when he could have kept what Flynn told him under his hat. Pence is not to be trusted.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 3:12 pm #

      Exactly. He needed to go on the offensive. But instead they got the momentum. There can be no accord with the Deep State and its Swamp.

  6. pequiste December 4, 2017 at 10:14 am #

    Obviously, either Gen Flynn did not do so well in his S.E.R.E. training module or he is going to take this one for the Gipper.

    The more I look at the ongoing situation: Washington in full Commedia dell’ arte mode (among other things like Wall Street shenanigans, Yzlamik invasion of Europe, Bitcoin etc.) – I have a suspicion that the reality behind all this terrestrial hypertrophy and chaos, that in some buried deep underground military base, a DARPA Artificial Super Intelligence (A.S.I.) monster is actually running the shit-show.

    • draupnir December 4, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

      Has it occurred to you that various factions of our unelected government are at present engaged in internecine warfare?

  7. Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 10:16 am #

    I am about to retire and am seeking a new career. After some thought I have decided to become a professional troll. Can anyone here help me out? Where does one apply? Is there a particular school I should attend? What skills should I acquire or develop?

    Maybe I could intern under someone here.

    It’s pretty exciting. My future so bright…

    • CancelMyCard December 4, 2017 at 10:46 am #

      Janos will gladly mentor you . . .

      provided you are the correct race, color, nationality, and have a decided Nazi, misogynist, homophobic, and bigoted worldview.

      His masters have him setup in a ponzi pyramid scheme whereby the more trolls he recruits, the greater his rewards.

      • Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 10:50 am #

        I do look good in Hugo Boss!

      • K-Dog December 4, 2017 at 11:36 am #

        That is only one of the honey-trap personalities. Honey traps want you to share your ‘isms’ with them. If you are racist Janos wants to talk to you. Once he engages you then you can be identified and added to a list. We have been told right here in these comments that there are many many lists, however as the years go by less is revealed as trolls get more ‘professional’.

        You could also be a social justice troll or advocate for animals. Environmental radicals are also considered terrorist. These trolls in contrary will pretend to hate racism.

        You don’t have top be a troll lamenting the lack of white pride. You have options.

        • K-Dog December 4, 2017 at 11:37 am #

          ‘to be a troll lamenting’

        • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 3:17 pm #

          So anyone who is proud of his race – or just not ashamed – is a troll? Do you apply this across the board to all races, or just Whites? Be honest – if you still have the capacity for self knowledge.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 3:15 pm #

        So you actually think the Establishment is Nazi? With our immigration policy? Despite the fact the White population is down from 90% to 60% in two generations? Utter delusion.

        • outsider December 4, 2017 at 4:11 pm #

          Why, Janos, has Trump not called for the repeal of the Immigration Act of 1965? Should have been his first order of business. Anything promoted by the deceased “Lion of the Senate” has got to be inimical to the best interests of the country. Oh, and his Justice Dept. should be looking into birthright citizenship. Some constitutional scholars think it has been misinterpreted all this time. What’s that they say: The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

          • benr December 4, 2017 at 8:39 pm #

            That is easy and it explains why the Democrats hate Trump so much.
            Trump was a life long Democrat and when he switched sides he became a traitor to the DNC.
            dO THE MATH.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 11:07 pm #

            Probably because he’s not a White Nationalist, though he doesn’t hate us as much as he “should”. I assume he believes in some kind of Civil Nationalism, though with a deep admiration for strong men. Bannon is the big disappointment: we really hoped for more. But the Left was just slandering by calling him pro-White. Good people hate their own people dontcha know!

    • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 10:50 am #

      I recommend that you seek out the one known as janet on this site. We’re still trying to pin down exactly what she is (real or simulated, paid or unpaid, etc.), but she exhibits all the characteristics you’re looking for. Don’t know that a formal apprenticeship or schooling is required for most. A period of OJT with some minimal level of supervision/mentoring might suffice, but again, she’s the one to ask about that.

      As for skills, Blatty summed it up nicely when he quoted me a few years back. “We must not listen to the demon! He will lie to us to deceive us and mix truth with lies to confuse us.”

      To that, add the Nazis’ observation (since perfected by the Bush-Cheney gang, and subsequently by Barry O’Bomber), “If you’re going to (when you) lie, go REALLY, REALLY BIG, or simply stay at home.” And then keep repeating that lie over and over again, no matter how much evidence to the contrary emerges. It’s a proven winner!

      So there ya go! Take that advice and go have some fun trolling out there!

      • Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 10:58 am #

        Apparently Asoka, now in his 80’s, has come out as a tranny troll and now identifies with his feminine side. That sounds pretty advanced. Something to shoot for, though.

        Thanks for the encouraging words. I am already an excellent liar. I rarely practice it, but like karate or a nice 9, it’s something to keep in the pocket just in case.

        • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 11:10 am #

          Thanks for the news on Asoka. We’re pretty sure he’s been lurking around here under various guises from time to time. It’s just impossible to be shocked by anything anymore!

        • malthuss December 4, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

          Funny.

          Against Me!’s lead singer, Laura Jane Grace, announced plans to transition her gender from male to female in 2012, fans were surprised. In the years since, the punk rock frontwoman has been open and honest about the struggles she’s faced since coming to terms with her identity.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 3:24 pm #

            Check out sexchangeregret.com for the real lowdown downlow. These people have a mental illness.

    • K-Dog December 4, 2017 at 11:26 am #

      Listen to mainstream talk radio. Every once in a while there is a government ad to try and recruit some youngins for careers in IT for the FBI. Get that phone number, call and explain your situation.

      Skills are needed to be competent but the profile you generate from taking the screening questionnaire will determine if you have the right stuff or not. If you project correct conservative attitudes and there is a space available then you might be hired. Most likely you will be employed at one of the many federal fusion centers or in the DC area.

      As a troll you will only have ‘super powers’ when someone detects your presence and then intends to reveal the national troll program to the general public. Then all stops come out to intimidate any potential whistle-blower into silence.

      This is not too hard since ALL news agencies are required to get an email from anyone who wants to report any news. Emails from identified dissidents who want to reveal the federal troll program are sliced and diced and returned to the a sender scrambled without reaching their original destinations. This is intimidating and makes you feel powerless. This has happened to me on three separate occasions.

      • Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 12:40 pm #

        So I would be a Federal employee? With bennies?

        • K-Dog December 4, 2017 at 3:51 pm #

          If you are a full time employee yes. If you are a contractor like the Blackwater ops currently beating special taxes out of Saudi Arabian princes in Riyadh then you are responsible for your own benifits. Adjust your hourly rate as appropriate. Having never worked for Blackwater I don’t know if they provide benifits or not.

    • ozone December 4, 2017 at 12:17 pm #

      Quick Joey,
      Here’s an article on how it’s done. Scroll down a bit to the personal story:

      wakeup-world.com/2012/10/03/pay-for-comments-confessions-of-a-paid-disinformation-internet-shill/

      As for “applying”? I would guess it’s like everything else; it’s who you know and just asking around might get ‘er done if you know anyone in the internet “services” bid’nez or gov’t. LEO’s (or maybe even fans of ELO).

      It would probably be helpful to your case if you can check these boxes.
      1. I like to write
      2. I’m a fairly fast typist
      3. I’m a sadist
      4. I’m a sociopath
      5. I can keep regular hours in order to intercept and deflect the conversation in specified blogs.

      There you go! Good luck and happy trolling! 🙂

      • ozone December 4, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

        Ps. Attribution: Thanks for the kewl windup, Ol’ Scratch!

      • Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 12:45 pm #

        3 out of 5. Ma Ma Ma Belle.

      • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 1:13 pm #

        Nice link ‘Zone!

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 3:26 pm #

        Yet in the past you have used my irregular hours as proof. Right? Remember?

        • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 3:39 pm #

          What are you on about Janos?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 11:10 pm #

            That was for Ozone about one of his conspiracy facts about me. They can’t deal with my objections to their race blind Liberalism so this is how they answer.

        • K-Dog December 4, 2017 at 4:04 pm #

          I remember when Asoka and I were going at each other hot and heavy after I experienced the accidental ‘REVEAL’ like we were on a damn TV reality show or on an old time quiz show.

          He was on for 48 hours straight with no more than an hour between comments screwing with me. That tells me that replacements keep harassment going ful time as needs demand. Round the clock activity is also a good way to let you know what you are up against without having to say a thing. Only you the victim will know what is going on.

          • Asoka December 6, 2017 at 2:23 am #

            I don’t remember any such thing.

      • K-Dog December 4, 2017 at 4:18 pm #

        Good job zone! Great article.

        Essay length posts which proport that everything is fine, that all is well, and that there is no need to worry at all. When these comments don’t get posted they get resubmitted word for word by another avitar.

      • K-Dog December 4, 2017 at 4:50 pm #

        The particular operation revealed in the article was not tightly tied to a three letter agency. I suspect the three letter agency big boys take over the game from the contractors when security is threatened.

      • daveed December 4, 2017 at 6:31 pm #

        Fans of ELO will always be preferred (haha)!

    • Robert White December 4, 2017 at 1:16 pm #

      If you want to be a professional troll you will need to figure out how to get paid for it. George Soros has networks of trolls, and so does
      the USARMY Information Operations sector of PSYOPS. The CIA & NSA probably hire trolls on a daily basis so all one needs to do is formally apply to work in the Intelligence community on a full time basis. Trolling randomly on Internet is not going to net you income so you are best off looking for professional paid positions within the Deep State or known Intelligence networks.

      RW

      • Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

        I thought maybe if you irritated enough people they would take up a collection and buy you off. I kinda like the idea of working for myself.

        • Robert White December 4, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

          Working for yourself is risky due to pitfalls of legislation hindering your efforts. It’s better to go the coopting route so that you have all the bases covered just in case the law decides they don’t like what you are doing.

          Keep friends close, but keep enemies closer, eh. 😉

          RW

  8. beantownbill. December 4, 2017 at 10:17 am #

    James, thanks for a precise description for what’s going on in our sad political arena. Your essay matches my own opinions, but says so in a much more cogent manner than I ever would have stated.

    What is most important to me is your point that we are headed for a constitutional crisis. What would happen if Trump gets impeached?Probably civil unrest, which would result in a collapse of our shaky economy and end up tearing our country apart.

    I’m pretty much an optimist, but I’ve had it with the relentless attempts to remove our constitutionally-elected president (I don’t like the guy, either, but we lawfully chose him).

    I’m going to follow your advice. I now have a death-grip on my hat.

    • oilie December 4, 2017 at 11:21 am #

      For anything short of very plausible allegations of serious wrongdoing by Trump, the Republicans will not impeach him. I think it more likely that Mueller might try going beyond them with a grand jury indictment of a sitting president; something that would first muddy the waters enough to turns the House against Trump. Failing that, they will try to slide him out with a 25th amendment spectacle.

      • beantownbill. December 4, 2017 at 12:33 pm #

        Isn’t it fun to speculate on what might happen?

        FWIW my opinion is that there’ll be no Grand Jury indicting a sitting president – can’t be done. They can go after Kushner and Trump’s son, however.

        I also believe they won’t go after Trump on the 25th amendment. That would seriously weaken the office of the presidency because anytime congress disagreed with a sitting president they could invoke the amendment and upset the balance of power.

        • malthuss December 4, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

          Isn’t it fun to speculate on what might happen?

          Not when I know what will happen.

          • beantownbill. December 4, 2017 at 3:11 pm #

            Then it’s not speculation.

        • outsider December 4, 2017 at 4:33 pm #

          From what I’ve read, the majority of scholars think that a sitting president cannot be indicted. Earlier today on “Fox and Friends,” liberal Democrat Alan Dershowitz said that “You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his Constitutional power to fire Comey and his constitutional authority to tell the Justice Dept. who to investigate, who not to investigate.” He’s said at other times that Trump could pardon Flynn and legally fire Mueller. Both excellent ideas, IMO.

  9. Bro Jobe December 4, 2017 at 10:24 am #

    It’s the same idée fixe by JHK on this, just as Dow 4,000 was for several years.

    I’m not convinced; back-door deals have been how Trump has always done business. I see no reason to end this investigation. It appears that Flynn was told to initiate contact with Russia by someone higher up, so let the process play itself out. If Trump gets exonerated, so be it.

    If Trump were a normally functioning human and did not undermine his own position with Twitter storms, many of us might not suspect him. He’d still be a sociopath, but that’s never been much of an impediment to “Supreme Executive Power,” as a peasant put it once to King Arthur somewhere.

    For the good of the nation, let the man’s innocence be proven.

    • beantownbill. December 4, 2017 at 10:48 am #

      Such a shit show would hurt the country, not help it. Danger, Will Robinson!

      • windward December 4, 2017 at 12:06 pm #

        Trump is helping us? We need some hurt. That is the only way we can avoid being destroyed by the right-wing nut jobs and billionaire sociopathic criminals who are taking over the place

        • beantownbill. December 4, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

          We are not in political agreement. I believe both sides, left and right, are composed of psychopaths. In fact, one would have to be to want to run for most government positions.

      • Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 2:02 pm #

        Was Dr Smith the first pedophile in space or what?

        • Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 2:05 pm #

          Had a creepy scoutmaster. When we saw him coming, one of the guys would holler “Danger Will Robinson!”

          • Bro Jobe December 4, 2017 at 3:45 pm #

            I think Zeno, the galactic gunslinger who looked like Smith, had the hots for Judy. Good pick. Danger, Major West!

    • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 3:29 pm #

      No, our system is supposed to prove someone’s guilt, not their innocence.

      People like you need to start over with Civics 101.

      • outsider December 4, 2017 at 7:52 pm #

        Janos,
        Truer words were never spoken. For Trump to be required to prove his innocence, with a special prosecutor breathing down his throat, is like a woman being burned at the stake told to prove she is not a witch with the fire already lit.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2017 at 4:50 am #

          Dunking was good too: if the Witch could live without breathing, then she Was a Witch and needed to be burned. If she drowned, then she was innocent.

  10. zekesdad December 4, 2017 at 10:24 am #

    Appoint another special prosecutor? That would really turn this country upside down and us at each other’s throats more than we are already. I do agree that at least some of the FBI has been politicized by Obama and Hillary. I imagine there’s an ongoing civil war inside the agency. The current director needs to clean house. If he can’t, Trump should replace him.

    • outsider December 4, 2017 at 10:35 am #

      Zeke,
      The same can be said for our milquetoast AG Jeff Sessions. Why did he recuse himself from this ridiculous Russia witch hunt when he claimed he did nothing wrong by talking to a few Russian diplomats? (He was a sitting Senator at the time, for gawd’s sake). I don’t blame Trump for Tweeting that, if he had known that Sessions would recuse himself, he would never have nominated him for AG in the first place.

  11. Dumbedup December 4, 2017 at 10:38 am #

    It is not uncommon for an incoming administration to have back channel communications with foreign governments. Reagan is the most famous for having done so with the Iranians. But Trump is incompetent and authoritarian and clearly not trustworthy. After the indictment of Flynn he tweeted that he fired Flynn for lying to the FBI and to VP Pence. How did he know he lied to the FBI last February? It gives new meaning to the meeting with Comey during which he asked him to back off. Now you have a potential obstruction charge against the President.

    I agree that the “deep state” is in deep doo doo and they want Trump out, but Trump has mishandled all of this from the start and it now appears he was the one who was trying to mislead.

    Trump’s popularity is waning except among his staunchest (less educated) followers and is between 34-38% That is the lowest of modern Presidents during their first year in office. You can make the argument that this is the result of an anti-Trump deep state and media fueled frenzy, and that is undoubtedly part of the reason. But most people think he is a narcissistic authoritarian and incompetent to be President.

    But the Republicans are in the middle of a mad grab for anything they can sink their teeth into because they know their days are numbered. That’s why they passed a 500 page tax bill that no one has read. Their donors were almost in revolt over the lack of any meaningful legislation. So they will hang onto Trump (and he them) until the very last moment. He might make it through the entire term.

    • beantownbill. December 4, 2017 at 10:56 am #

      Right. Trump was dumb enough to make that tweet. Melania should take away his smartphone (in Trump’s case, an oxymoron).

      • elysianfield December 4, 2017 at 11:51 am #

        “Right. Trump was dumb enough to make that tweet.”

        Bill,
        Dumb enough? He identified the media as unalterably antagonistic, so the tweets are an end-run…he is manipulating the media now as he did before the election. He is still getting his message heard, and without Media filters, but rather through the constant howls and rending of garments of our MSM betters.

        I do not follow his “tweets”, but rather the dynamic between Trump and the MSM…the methodology is interesting…someone should write a book.

        I am not necessarily a fan of Trump.

        • beantownbill. December 4, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

          EF, don’t you think it’s stupid to publicly admit you committed obstruction of justice? Yeah, he probably was trying to do some kind of end-around, but opening himself up to such charges is too high a price to pay. Not smart.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 4:11 pm #

            The President cannot obstruct justice as he is the foremost justice agent in the Land. Alan Dershowitz concurs.

          • Dumbedup December 5, 2017 at 9:22 am #

            So now we have an example of neo-papalism and “divine right of kings” all in one dumbass who backed into the Presidency.

          • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 10:48 am #

            More like divine right of thieves. Albeit at least term limited.

    • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 11:21 am #

      I said when it happened that firing Flynn was Trump’s first major mistake and signaled that his administration wasn’t completely on the up and up. That and the fact that he he immediately reneged on his campaign pledge (just as Obama immediately began reneging on all his) to have Hillary fully investigated and almost certainly charged with multiple counts of treason and obstruction of justice. It all makes me wonder if he isn’t being paid off and is in on the whole thing too. But he’s such an erratic dolt that it’s damn near impossible to figure out what he’s up to. That could well be the plan for his entire four year term. Chaos and smoke and mirrors the whole way through as a distraction from the many other shady dealings going on behind the scenes. Welcome to the new normal in US politics.

      • outsider December 4, 2017 at 4:42 pm #

        Rather than fire Flynn, Trump should have fired Pence for turning him in. No one likes a tattle tale.. Unfortunately, Trump cannot just fire his VP, no matter how much his VP is undermining him.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 11:14 pm #

        It was proof that “the well oiled machine” was full chinks and hiccups and rusty radiators like Pudzner (sp?), not to mention Obama appointees.

    • windward December 4, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

      H. L. Mencken’s prediction for our country has come to pass: “As democracy is perfected, the office of the president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron.”

    • daveed December 4, 2017 at 6:40 pm #

      “It is not uncommon for an incoming administration to have back channel communications with foreign governments. Reagan is the most famous for having done so with the Iranians.”

      Who could forget the October Surprise of 1980. Was that with the cake and the Bible…..or did that come later?

  12. sprawlcapital December 4, 2017 at 10:43 am #

    Trump may not be an Abe Lincoln, but Hillary needs to be held accountable for numerous misdeeds.

    Thanks, JHK, for this clear, concise summary of recent problems at the FBI. Some of your best writing!

    • outsider December 4, 2017 at 11:21 am #

      I’ll say it one last time – LOCK HER UP!

    • My Point of View December 4, 2017 at 4:36 pm #

      As much as the GOP hates anything and everything Clinton then we can be sure that Hillary would’ve been locked up long ago if she’d done something truly illegal.

      All the GOP does is blow smoke up our ass and shout “Lock Her Up” like kids at a football game; there’s no there there. All talk of Hillary’s “crimes” is just another fat ugly GOP nothing burger, red meat for the snarling mob on the right to keep them riled up like a lynch mob.

      I never liked Trump since 25 years ago when I found out that I wasted my money buying The Art of The Deal; I wanted business insights and all I got was junk. I’ve been reading business publications for 50 years and Art of the Deal was just plain CRAP, just like Trump “University.”

      I voted for Clinton only because Trump is so very execrable and totally unfit. But he followed the GOP SOP of pandering to the racists and that lump of voters was enough to give him a plurality when among a clown car of 17 other weenies.

      Bernie was the guy with the right ideas but he got hosed out of the nomination. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazile will go down in history as the worst of the worst at running a major political party and Hillary Clinton will go down in history as snatching defeat from the jaws of victory with a sorry assed campaign.

      The party of fiscal responsibility is about to suffer a massive case of amnesia and pass a tax “reform” bill that violates every fiscal responsibility gene in their conservative souls as they claimed they stood for when Obama was POTUS. Can’t make this shit up.

  13. Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 10:44 am #

    Like our host, I am an old democrat who has been abandoned by his party, an event I date to the triangulating Clinton’s time in the White House. I first voted for a president in 1976, when I voted for grinnin’ Jimmy. Haven’t picked a winner since.

    I voted for Jill. I never want her to be president, but I believe a stronger Green Party can split off votes from the Dems and weaken them.

    I don’t like Trump, at all. I don’t mind the Twitter stuff. I don’t care that he doesn’t “act Presidential.” He’s a lifetime rich fucker so I don’t trust him. I will never go fishing with him. I will give him his due, however. He knows how to play the press, the rubes, and his adversaries. He makes everything personal, which gets folks all spun up. Good fun.

    I don’t like the impeachment nonsense. There will be another election soon enough. Ballots, not bullshit.

    • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 10:47 am #

      I doubt it will ever get that far, but DC will revel in the drama in the meantime. Impeachment trials are inherently dangerous to both parties, and if there’s one thing both parties can agree on, it’s live and let live when it comes to official corruption. There’s more than enough slop to go around at the ol’ feeding trough when they all act like good little piggies and practice at least minimal cooperation.

  14. Walter B December 4, 2017 at 10:52 am #

    FBI, or F’ing Brainless Idiots as we prefer to call them have a long history of being law “enforcement” hacks, gutless cowards and paid off political underlings. Their very first director J. Edgar, was a pathetic portent of what the agency was to “grow” into as it refused to acknowledge the existence of organized crime and not doing the job that a single Treasury agent was able to accomplish. J. Edgar’s misdeeds with both Kennedy brothers was a not so shining example of how corrupt the agency was, and these latest jokes they pull are simply what they do, bullshit that’s what

    The problem that President Trump has always faced may be beyond the ability of the civilian population to comprehend or understand, but even here, in small town American political arenas all over the country, it is clear. There is no one, absolutely NO single person much less many that are decent, honest and hardworking that care to get involved in the business of running government in an elected position of any kind. Alright, maybe there are some, but there are nowhere near enough to overcome the massive amounts of corruption and political hackery that makes up the systems. We are stuck with two things that will doom this nation at every level, not enough honest people inside, and a general public that is too stupid, too distracted, too uncaring, or all of the above to do anything about it. The power to change anything always starts with those who make the laws. Enforcers will always enforce pretty much every law regardless of moral decrepitude. Workers will wok with pretty much any framework of any laws. But making laws of change is where change must start. And remember, the lawmakers are all installed by a corrupt, worthless political process that allows for garbage in to stay in pretty much for life. As far as appointments go, every US president has to appoint many positions of authority once the president takes office. Choosing corrupt sellout political scum is easy, there are an endless amount of candidates to pick from. Choosing decent, honest caring people instead? Seriously, do you still believe in the Tooth Fairy too?

    • beantownbill. December 4, 2017 at 11:05 am #

      Good comment, Walter. Speaking of laws, I’d start with the SCOTUS. Getting rid of Citizens United and eliminating or controlling political contributions would go a long way to minimize corruption. Oh, and initiating term limits, too.

    • Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 11:41 am #

      Decent, honest, caring people enter the system and are repelled by it precisely because they are decent, honest, and caring. The experience generally leaves them sadder, wiser, and as far away as they can get. Honorable exceptions exist. I reckon they have strong stomachs.

      • Walter B December 4, 2017 at 3:06 pm #

        Stronger stomachs perhaps, but certainly a much stiffer neck and a severe aversion to being screwed by scum bags and snake oil salesmen. I may be an idiot in doing what I do against insurmountable odds, but I would rather be beaten down than submit without a fight. To me it is their is a huge difference between having sex and getting fucked..

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 4:25 pm #

        Monarchy may be the best option in view of its stability. And of course backed by a religion that inculcates virtue in the People – of all classes. The Church was right to condemn Henry the 8th. What he did in private was one thing – but marriage is a social contract and thus an example to the People.

    • outsider December 4, 2017 at 3:03 pm #

      Walter B,

      Your comment brings to mind my favorite poem. Here are three lines from “The Second Coming” by WB Yeats:

      “Things fall apart: the centre cannot hold” …

      “The best lack all conviction, while the worst
      Are full of passionate intensity.”

      Written in 1919, in the aftermath of The Great War, but more relevant today than ever.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 4:27 pm #

        We are a fallen species. The times always tend to be bad. Opening up the vote for all was utter foolishness, insuring control by a corrupt Elite who can easily move the mob. Only a good Elite, an Aristocracy of merit, ability, and virtue, have any chance of keeping them in check.

        • beantownbill. December 4, 2017 at 6:58 pm #

          Dammit, I hate it when I agree with you (about the vote, not the monarchy)!

          • Walter B December 5, 2017 at 10:30 am #

            Fact is that far too many people that I talk to do not even know who they voted for because they simply hit the line buttons for “D” or “R”. Getting “elected” to public office is one of the very few jobs a person can get without have ANY of the qualifications that are required to do the job. It is also one of the few jobs you can apply for where lying your ass off will actually get you in and not keep you out! This experiment has failed miserably.

          • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 10:38 am #

            You’re on fire today Walter! Good work!

        • outsider December 5, 2017 at 11:07 am #

          I haven’t read the book, but love the title: “Democracy – The God That Failed,” by Hans-Herman Hoppe. The world we live in shows this truth all to plainly.

    • Robert White December 4, 2017 at 8:10 pm #

      Corporations like the United States of America are not about ‘change’ or ‘caring’. Corporations are only interested in the bottom line. Corporations have never been interested in anything but the bottom line. Trump’s sole purpose in being POTUS is to feather his own nest and make monetary profits for his business ventures going forward. Trump et al. will sell you whatever they can in order to keep selling you shit. In brief, the United States of America has no vision other than tax cuts for the rich, and bread & circuses for the masses. Furthermore, engineering the shortest possible path to profits is made easier if ‘decent’, and ‘honest’ Chief Executive Officers turn the other cheek, and look the other way, eh.

      America, and Americans, have been bullshitting themselves, and the entire world, for centuries. From P.T. Barnum to the Cheeto-head-in-chief it’s all just the same old whine in a new bottle with a different label.

      Best to go for a whole reset so that we can rebuild on a more suitable substrate and not shifting sands of time.

      RW

      • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 10:42 am #

        Kind of reminds me of the old saw about Eve and the Serpent. Corporations are just being corporations, which is all they can ever be. Expecting them to act contrary to their nature is simply beyond foolish.

  15. FincaInTheMountains December 4, 2017 at 11:01 am #

    Why should President Trump not fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller now?

    The only good reason I could see is to let him loose on Uranium One deal to kill two birds in one shot: bring down the liberal Medvedev’s government in Russia and bring down the Deep State in US – and, of course, keep the uranium mines, especially in Kazakhstan which were Russians to begin with and were lost to Canadian company during some illegal privatization op.

  16. volodya December 4, 2017 at 11:02 am #

    Elrond, depleting fossil fuels may well have a connection to Trump but one that’s tied by events stretching over decades.

    For example, you can’t have failed to notice the economic-societal-political turmoil caused by so-called “globalization” of which the chief characteristic is the shutting down of industrial capacity in the West and its movement to Third World sweat-shops.

    I think JHK said this and others too, that this “globalization” came due to declining profit margins which were the consequence of escalating energy costs.

    And so, as offshoring took root in the past few decades, you had the unavoidable consequence of a great mass of people in the formerly wealthy, but now debt-ridden West, falling into destitution.

    It was to the destitute and to people sympathizing with their situation that Trump spoke. Trump said he would fight for their interests. In contrast, what did his opponent do? She called those same people “deplorable”.

    You can say that Hillary pretty much handed Trump the keys to the White House because of those few epically stupid words. IOW it didn’t have to be this way. If JHK and others are right, the connection of the fossil fuel problem to Trump’s election victory may be indirect but the economic degradation of such a large cohort of the populace in the US practically invites politicians like him.

    What I find surprising is that it took this long and that the result (Donald’s election) is, in view of other possibilities, so benign. If people think that Trump is bad, I would suggest they don’t know from “bad”.

    Regardless, if you’re trying to suck oil out of shale, you’re scraping the barrel. As far as current $50-$60 oil prices go, some people think that this is the result of Saudi wahabist regime opening the spigots to undercut their Persian Shia adversaries. It’s ancient tribal animosity at the root of it.

    It’s like JHK said, the oil industry can’t function with oil less than 70 bucks, but the economy can’t function with oil over 70 bucks. If you don’t like the 70 dollar number pick another one because either way all you’re doing is nudging the curve.

    Those Middle East oil fields won’t last forever. The faster Middle Eastern antagonists pump, the faster those fields run down. When they shut down, given the economic and political turmoil that’s bound to follow, I suspect that American leaders will make The Donald look like an exemplar of moderation and good sense.

    • Walter B December 4, 2017 at 11:15 am #

      I think that you will find that those people that think that President Trump is bad also believed and still do, that Barry Obama was good. Even when I point out to these kinds of people that Obama ran for office the first time with the pledges of eliminating the Patriot Act and ending the War in Afghanistan and that he increased BOTH of these issues instead of what he promised to do. The response I always get to this is the, yes he lied, but politicians ALWAYS lie, that is what they do. Far too many Americans are not only ok with being lied to, they WANT to be lied to. Bright and shining Lies. They NEED these because their own pathetic realities cannot be dealt with.

      I also run into far too many people that not only think that there is more than enough oil to be had for THEIR lifetimes (some actually state outright that this is all they care about) but those that state that we can always take it from places that have it like the ME. Some are somehow convinced that oil is replicating itself endlessly underground even as we speak and will always be around in plenty. I am serious, I get a lot of this. People have been programmed to consume without thought by a system for profit that will use them up to the last day of their value and leave them high and dry without care. It is so sad but it is very sadly true my friend.

      • Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 11:30 am #

        It’s ok. They will think of something. Maybe it will be advertised during Super Bowl halftime.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 8:43 pm #

        Yes! And in the next second they’re raving about the lies of Republicans and/or Trump. So it also matter WHO it is that is lying to them. Weird, sad, disordered minds and people. A Cult writ large.

    • Ludwig Beck December 5, 2017 at 8:31 pm #

      “It’s like JHK said, the oil industry can’t function with oil less than 70 bucks, but the economy can’t function with oil over 70 bucks. If you don’t like the 70 dollar number pick another one because either way all you’re doing is nudging the curve.

      Those Middle East oil fields won’t last forever. The faster Middle Eastern antagonists pump, the faster those fields run down. When they shut down, given the economic and political turmoil that’s bound to follow, I suspect that American leaders will make The Donald look like an exemplar of moderation and good sense.”

      They will last for YOUR lifetime, though.

      The first paragraph is COMPLETELY wrong. It has proved wrong in the last decade and it is being proved wrong now.

      Are you old enough to remember a website, now shut down, called “The Oil Drum”?

      This is the kind of gibberish and speculation that was happening on that blog and on Clusterfuck Nation starting well over a decade ago.

      The phenomenon of Peak Oil is not playing out in any of the ways speculated by the doom-mongers because you don’t understand how supply and demand work.

      Peak Oil HAPPENED already – probably around 1999 or 2000. The cheap oil is rapidly depleting. But it will take a long, long time for the effects of gradually more expensive oil to play out.

      And we (especially you) have no ability to forecast the million other factors that will contribute to that future.

  17. VictoriusTitus December 4, 2017 at 11:02 am #

    You’ve lost it Jim. That weird thing that happens in America caused by removal from population centers during which you have too much time on your hands that you start to believe outlandish things.

    The hysteria around Trump is equal on both the right and the left. For his base they love the circus. On the left, they have created a new circus around the Russia angle. But four of his campaign people are now under arrest, that’s the real world that you talk about all the time.

    As soon as anyone mentions Bengazi they show themselves to be conspiracy nut-cases. If you invoke Bengazi then why can’t we talk about Niger. And as far as I can tell, Hillary Clinton holds no position of any kind, i.e. she is not accountable to the public.

    Jim, please find a nice small city, the kind you talk about all the time where these thoughts of conspiracy don’t have enough time to percolate. It should be enough for any “thinking person,” intellectual idiot or not, to realize that this current situation is a total embarrassment.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 4, 2017 at 11:16 am #

      Hillary Clinton holds no position of any kind

      She does – she is a Witch in Chief of the West, The Great and Terrible Bastinda, the Lady of the Flying Monkeys

      • Walter B December 4, 2017 at 11:29 am #

        What Titus is asserting is that once you get into office you can ignore any and all laws (they only apply to the Little People) and start amassing as much cash as you can however you can. You are permitted to use all of the power you can muster to avoid consequences of your misdeeds. Once you are out of office – Bingo, you are free and clear and nothing can ever be done to you. I do not understand how anyone except a political insider can hold such opinion, but many do you know.

        • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 11:33 am #

          True political insiders like Hillary are never truly “out of office.” In fact, they might actually wield more power once out of office than while they were in, since they’re no longer constrained by official regulatory hurdles and can operate more freely.

          • Walter B December 4, 2017 at 11:50 am #

            That is a real good point, well made!

          • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 12:02 pm #

            Thanks Walter! The famous “revolving door” has many extra benefits!

        • windward December 4, 2017 at 12:18 pm #

          For a minute there I thought you were talking about Trump.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 8:46 pm #

          Another plus for Trump since he didn’t need the money. He has lost huge amount of money in contracts so it’s just the opposite of the Clinton Grift Machine.

          • malthuss December 4, 2017 at 11:16 pm #

            graft or grift?

      • PeteAtomic December 4, 2017 at 1:01 pm #

        “the Lady of the Flying Monkeys”

        LOL ha ha ha

      • City_of_76 December 4, 2017 at 6:46 pm #

        All honorary positions, so maybe they don’t really count?

    • announcerguy1 December 4, 2017 at 4:17 pm #

      Agreed.

      One of the biggest heists in history happened Saturday morning at 2 A.M., on the floor of the senate….a gift to already obscenely rich individuals and cash-rich corporations, with an expiring carrot handed to the hoi polloi, and crushing debt handed to our children…and Jim is obsessing over the Russia investigation.

      Talk about missing the forest for the trees. Incredibly short-sighted.

      • outsider December 4, 2017 at 5:00 pm #

        Before this tax change horror is fully implemented, the Dems, after the mid-terms, could well be in control of both Houses. If they get enough support, they could repeal it in its cradle.

        This “we are at war with Russia” hysteria, however, is NOW. Why not let our host choose his own topics, anyway?

        • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 10:37 am #

          Relax. Being in control is the last thing the double-dealing Dems ever want to be. Then their con game gets exposed for what it is: a poorly executed bait and switch. They want the same things the GOP wants, but they also want to foster the illusion that they don’t. Nothing more than shady amateurish pick pocket artists.

          • outsider December 5, 2017 at 11:18 am #

            So you think the democrats WANT to stay in the minority? That is an opinion I’ve never heard before. Politics is all about winning, then taking care of your donors first (think AIPAC), then your friends. Pelosi and her ilk cannot wait to impeach Trump, but it can’t happen as long as they are in the minority.

          • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 1:05 pm #

            They’re conflicted. They want to be the majority party, but every time they are, they get exposed for the double crossers that they are. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. They’re truly living a lie, and 2016 fully exposed that fact. I doubt even Trump’s many epic failings will be able to resuscitate their dying brand. Sanders is their one truly legitimate candidate, but I doubt they have the good sense to nominate him again.

    • messianicdruid December 4, 2017 at 5:06 pm #

      “That weird thing that happens in America caused by removal from population centers during which you have too much time on your hands that you start to believe outlandish things.”

      “Jim, please find a nice small city, the kind you talk about all the time where these thoughts of conspiracy don’t have enough time to percolate.”

      If you are fed you have many problems. If you are hungry you have one problem.

  18. VCS December 4, 2017 at 11:13 am #

    Kunstler minimizes Putin’s hatred of democracy and his intensive efforts to destroy it here and elsewhere. “Bits of mischief” my ass. How’s that for an understatement by a guy who overstates so much else?

    • VCS December 4, 2017 at 11:21 am #

      And yeah, the US has done similar things. That doesn’t make Russia any less dangerous or Trump any less malignant.

    • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 11:29 am #

      More Cold War propaganda. Give it up already! The US should wish it will someday get a truth telling leader like Putin. But as the old movie line goes: “We can’t handle the truth!”

      • VCS December 4, 2017 at 11:34 am #

        “Truth telling leader like Putin” — ?? — Wow!

        • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 11:49 am #

          Blows your mind, doesn’t it? You need to stop listening to the US propaganda mill. It’s all bullshit all of the time.

          • outsider December 4, 2017 at 3:14 pm #

            I’m with you on this one 100%, Ol’ Scratch.

          • 100th Avatar December 4, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

            Yo también diablito

            If democracy means having the majority anoint an uninhibited criminal syndicate don like HRC as president (because she allegedly has a vagina and is married to the first “black” president) just give me a dictator without the window dressing.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 8:50 pm #

            Me too, Crotch. You see VCS, being President means being a President of some specific place and being responsible to a particular people, a Nation in other words. You seem to think they’re supposed to be President of the World like Obama wanted to be. No. Putin serves the Russian People – exactly as is right.

          • ..Captain America.. December 4, 2017 at 9:49 pm #

            GOT TRUTH??
            got-truth.com/

            C
            A

      • Ludwig Beck December 5, 2017 at 6:48 pm #

        There’s a lot of room between having a worldview based on the “US propaganda mill” and having one based on actual knowledge of Russian and Soviet history up through the last 18 uninterrupted years of Putin’s increasingly authoritarian rule.

        There have been more than a few books written on the use of political murder and Kremlin-backed propaganda to cement Putin’s grasp on power.

        You don’t need to believe the Russians actually hacked our election or be a Russophobe or John McCain to be a little skeptical about claims that Putin is a truth-telling, strategic genius. And skepticism of the long-term potential strength of the current Russian version of “capitalist democracy” doesn’t make one a neocon or a Russophobe.

  19. venuspluto67 December 4, 2017 at 11:22 am #

    I did not vote for Donald Trump and I do not admire him; but I rather resent the dishonesty that is being marshaled against him, especially the mis-use of judicial procedure and the mendacious propagandizing of the nation in service to that end.

    This is my position in a nutshell. I’m no fan of Trump, Russia, or Putin (and as a political-compass left-libertarian and somewhat militant homosexual, I certainly have no reason to be). But the disingenuous propaganda campaign against the Trump Administration feels way too much like the equally disingenuous red-baiting deployed against those of us who opposed President Reagan’s reactionary terrorist-war against leftist national liberation forces in Central America back in the eighties.

    • malthuss December 4, 2017 at 12:43 pm #

      leftist national liberation forces in Central America back in the eighties.

      –Surely you jest. Castro was a billionaire.
      Sandinistas? Please.

      • venuspluto67 December 4, 2017 at 1:24 pm #

        {/pumps fist in the air and marches around in a circle}

        “Si, si, Sandinista, no, no, CIA! Si, si, Sandinista, no, no, CIA!”

  20. erik December 4, 2017 at 11:33 am #

    What I don’t get is why anyone in that position wouldn’t simply refuse to talk with the FBI as they could when questioned by any cop?

    In a long life, I have had several interactions with law enforcement where I felt I was being probed with bad intent and in each instance I just told them straight up that I simply refused to cooperate beyond identifying myself and details about myself that are neutral such as where do I live and work and do I favor the Jets or the Cowboys, but once it got to “where were you on the night of the harvest moon?”, I’d just say can’t talk about that.

    They get all verklempt when you do that in a polite and matter of fact manner, but they can’t force you unless you are in a judicial proceeding.

  21. capt spaulding December 4, 2017 at 11:36 am #

    I remember when “W”, and his buddies passed all of those bills deregulating everything & giving massive tax breaks to corporations & the wealthy (sound familiar anybody?). Look at that happened. Somebody said that those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat their mistakes, to which I would add: ” Those who DO remember the past are forced to watch while these idiots do the same thing again.” It’s like going backing in time, and booking passage on the Titanic, & saying it’ll be different this time. All you true believers are in for another shock when this Republican fiasco leads us right back to the same consequences as last time, and I hate to say it, but we’ll deserve it.

    • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

      You’re exactly right Cap’n, but the even better observation is that the exact same shit happens when “that other party” is in control, as they were from 2008-2016. Truth is, the two US political parties support exactly the same policies and represent exactly the same people, albeit with entirely different marketing strategies to sell their pathetic “brands.” But yes, the American people for the most part are indeed too stupid to appreciate any of this, and therefore do indeed deserve exactly what they get. In that light, W might well have been the most honest of the bunch for the past 25 years, as he was pretty straight forward and unapologetic in representing himself and the shady shit that he, Cheney, and Rumsfeld were up to. Go figure.

      • Walter B December 4, 2017 at 6:10 pm #

        Was W really ever president? I though DICK Cheney was president during that time period?

        • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 9:22 am #

          Effectively, yes. Good point. W was just the on-air personality using his family name to sell the whole gambit. He did it well too.

      • outsider December 5, 2017 at 11:31 am #

        I reject the notion that the American people “do indeed deserve exactly what they get.” As we (in the US anyway) are all prisoners in Bernays giant Panopticon, we have about as much ability to overthrow the system as Winston Smith had in “1984.”

        • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 4:48 pm #

          That’s kind of splitting hairs. Deserving or not, it will take a truly epic societal and cultural paradigm shift to change things for the better now. That’s why I continue to believe that only a complete collapse of an organic nature (a systemic failure not contrived by existing elements within the current system, although they could possibly play a part in precipitating it) can save us. Gradual, incremental change of the current system is just not going to get it done anymore.

    • My Point of View December 4, 2017 at 5:02 pm #

      Cap’n, it’s deja vu all over again. Time to BOHICA (Bend Over Here It Comes Again).

      Trickle down didn’t work for Herbert Hoover, Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush and won’t work this time.

      There is ZERO ‘reform’ in the Senate’s tax bill. None. It’s a huge giveaway to those who need it the least.

      Warren Buffett was on the Sunday Morning show yesterday and told the truth; tax rates are not too high, corporations are flush with money if they wanted to invest in new facilities, if they need to borrow they can do so easily and at very low interest rates, and we should be very concerned as income inequality has significantly worsened the past 30+ years. These simple truths don’t play well with the GOP base of know nothings who’ve been brainwashed to believe that our big problems are gay rights, abortion, guns, bathrooms and religious freedom bills.

      The billionaires club funding the GOP wants more until they have it all.

      It looks like were truly screwed this time, the lunatics are running the GOP and running the country into the ground again.

      • ozone December 4, 2017 at 9:00 pm #

        My Point of View,
        Tangential to what youse guys are batting around with the billionaires club buying, owning and trading politicians (for fun and profit), I’d like to suggest that the Law Enforcing agencies in this country have not been *politicized*, rather they’ve been *corporatized* by the same club, using the same revolving door tactics.

        Comey is actually a perfect example… and we could throw in his mentor, Mueller as well. Cesar Paz asks the questions (rhetorically, of course) that no congressional critter committee has dared ask:

        youtube.com/watch?v=Kag97tNXJTk&feature=youtu.be

        Lockheed Martin? What’s that? HSBC? Never hear’d tell o’ that. Clintons? Don’t know ’em.

      • Dave Taylor December 5, 2017 at 9:59 am #

        Please don’t use Warren Buffett as someone who really gives a shit about income equality as he has surely contributed to the problem. In 1998 he purchased Dexter Shoe Company in Dexter, Maine. By 2002 he closed the shoe factory there, putting 1500 people out of work in a town of 5000. You want to see income inequality, go visit the town. I own a summer place on the lake there and can testify to the economic devastation the residents have suffered. I have been told by many there that the factory was profitable, just not profitable enough for Mr. Buffett. Thus, he moved it overseas.

        Warren Buffett is no hero or genius, nor is he really concerned about income inequality. If he was, he would have figured out a way to keep that factory open and employing American citizens.

        As it is, he has run a once proud company producing an excellent product right into the ground.

  22. volodya December 4, 2017 at 12:12 pm #

    Dumbedup, I wouldn’t disparage the “less educated”. From what I’ve seen, a fair number these non-college educated have got the clearer take on things.

    Do you remember that scene in the Godfather where Santino asked Michael if he went to college to get stupid? The more distance I put between me and my university years, the more I think the script-writer was onto something.

    Seems that in many fields of study the straight-forward and common-place gets over-laid with incomprehensible and meaningless jargon and gets twisted into mazes and warrens of nonsense. Kids go in with the ability to think in rational and reasonable ways and get it beaten out of them.

    A quarter million bucks of “education” and the Intellectual-Yet-Idiot is the result. Too bad really because it has real-life consequences and not just for the mis-educated. It’s been said many times, that there’s no idea so full of shit that an intellectual can’t be convinced of its truth.

    I think that if we want to make a start, it would be to concentrate on K-12, making sure that kids come out literate and numerate and with knowledge of geography and history and science. You can pack a lot into thirteen years. And do what we used to do, industrial arts and home ec. Remember those? Not everyone is cut out to be an app developer.

    As for those mind-destroying bastions of idiocy and un-reason, tear down the ivy-covered buildings and toss them brick-by-brick into the nearest lake.

    In too many instances that college degree that people wave around confers no special knowledge or ability, it’s a signifier of social class, nothing more.

    • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 12:53 pm #

      As a 40+ year old who finally attained a college degree, albeit at an extremely humble public university,I can personally attest that it conferred absolutely no special knowledge whatsoever. In fact, it actually made me lazier and took me out of the workforce for too long, atrophying the good working habits I’d developed earlier. The most interesting tidbit I picked along the way was the fact that economists – the new high priests of academia – have long considered academic degrees to be little more than signaling devices, indicating that the recipient has both the virtue of intelligence to recognize their legitimacy, and the virtue of character to put up with the financial and personal hardships (aka, bullshit) required to attain them. Personally, I though it was all bullshit, but it was easy enough to coast through without even trying, so what the hell.

      • capt spaulding December 4, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

        People’s responsibility to educate themselves does not end after graduation, but should continue throughout their lives. I remember hearing two guys arguing about something in a cafe, and one of them said “where did you read that?” The other guy said “I didn’t read it anywhere, I don’t have to read anymore, I graduated from high school.” Thus the old saying: In a Democracy, you get the kind of government you deserve.

        • volodya December 4, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

          Totally agree. Books are free for the asking at the public library. And nowadays we have got the internet even if there’s so much that’s crap floating in it.

        • 100th Avatar December 4, 2017 at 5:51 pm #

          Not necessarily what you deserve Capt. Steubing 😉 as you will fall victim to the 90% dimwit population that surrounds you no matter how informed, educated, and enlightened you may be.

          The social contract in this country is long gone.
          It’s more important for this country to have a consumer class than an educated one.

          • daveed December 4, 2017 at 6:54 pm #

            “Hooray for Captain Spaulding…!”

        • elysianfield December 4, 2017 at 6:42 pm #

          “People’s responsibility to educate themselves does not end after graduation, but should continue throughout their lives”

          Well said, Captain.

          I always felt that the college experience was the beginning of my education….

          • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 10:31 am #

            I always felt like it was the end; as in, if I wasn’t discouraged about learning before I attended, I certainly was after I finished.

      • malthuss December 4, 2017 at 11:21 pm #

        There is a book, from the pre PC revolution,

        The Case Against College, by Byrd.

        • malthuss December 4, 2017 at 11:28 pm #

          The book mentions te drawbacks, or some of them.

          Nowadays, a thin textbook can cost $200.
          Plus the brainwashing that ‘teachers’ can do.

          • malthuss December 4, 2017 at 11:29 pm #

            the

          • outsider December 5, 2017 at 11:45 am #

            And if they buy the textbook chances are they’ll never use it. My wife and I fully paid for our daughters college costs (no financial aid), and I can attest that, after plunking down the $200, the books were hardy opened. Then, if they sell them back, they are lucky to get $20. Quite a profitable scam they have going there. The profs must be getting a kick-back.

    • bibliomaniac December 4, 2017 at 2:25 pm #

      Oh Really? Should we get rid of the medical schools too? Maybe somebody off the street can perform your surgery? Or somebody off the street can teach your kids? Where is this argument going?

      • Ludwig Beck December 5, 2017 at 6:58 pm #

        Did you hear about that guy that got caught trying to smuggle books from Kentucky into Tennessee last month? He wasn’t found guilty. The jury couldn’t prove they were books.

        That’s where this is going.

        • bibliomaniac December 6, 2017 at 7:23 pm #

          Ludwig–HAH! Love it!

    • outsider December 4, 2017 at 5:21 pm #

      If you really want to change K-12 for the better, go back to same sex schools so boys will not be so distracted by the fairer sex. With their testosterone in high gear once puberty kicks in, boys are at a distinct disadvantage sitting at a desk throughout interminable boring days, when all they can think of is the pretty girl in the next aisle. No doubt that is a main reason why girls are doing so much better in school.

      • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 10:28 am #

        Agreed. I remember living in mortal fear of being called to the blackboard all through Jr. High. Had to watch the clock closely and think clean thoughts before the bell rang too. Those were the days!

    • Jigplate December 4, 2017 at 6:43 pm #

      As for the K12, you can forget it. This is 32 years in the trenches talking. Most public school kids in America resemble the ones that I’m faced with. You have to want to think, and your culture needs to value it. Nope on both counts.

      • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 10:30 am #

        The whole school format is screwed up too. Feels too much like the corporate life that it’s preparing the kids for. The truly smart ones rebel, as they can see where it’s all heading.

        • outsider December 5, 2017 at 11:56 am #

          Then if they rebel (the vast majority are boys) they’ll be referred to shrinks who will fill them up with dangerous anti-depressants so they can sit still in school all day and make life easier for the teacher. As a bonus, the AD’s take away their boners. Then some will become serial killers. I’m so glad I’m an old man and not a boy today.

          • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 4:39 pm #

            You and me both!

        • GreenAlba December 5, 2017 at 7:32 pm #

          Am I the only one old enough to remember this by Pete Seeger?

          …And the people in the houses all go to the university
          And they all get put in boxes, little boxes all the same
          And there’s doctors and there’s lawyers
          And business executives
          And they’re all made out of ticky tacky and they all look just the
          same
          And they all play on the golf course and drink their martini dry
          And they all have pretty children and the children go to school
          And the children go to summer camp
          And then to the university
          And they all get put in boxes, and they all come out the same…

          That’s my ear-worm for the night. Good night…

          • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 8:32 pm #

            Sounds like the theme song for Weeds borrowed directly from this. Like all great artists, Ol’ Pete will be long remembered but little appreciated. Thanks GreenA!

  23. Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 12:20 pm #

    Two wings on the same bird, the one shitting on your head.

    Marketing. It is the foundation of our culture. With tools like TV and the hypnotically addictive media of our digital age, we are inundated with nearly irresistible stimuli to reinforce or discourage the targeted behaviors. Bernays with 5G. Goebbels with a freakin’ laser on his head.

    It takes an exceptional person to be normal, now.

    • malthuss December 4, 2017 at 12:41 pm #

      It takes an exceptional person to be normal, now.

      Not if one avoids Movies, Netflix [Soros funded], TV, Video Games and
      Apple products.

      • Quick Joey Small December 4, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

        Most people don’t avoid ” Movies, Netflix [Soros funded], TV, Video Games and Apple products.” Maybe they can’t.

        People would be better off should they follow your suggestion. This would disconnect them from the incessant programming. It would also disconnect them from popular culture and from many of the people and institutions that support them. (A traumatic separation that I personally am trying to negotiate, while posting on an internet forum.)

        Every culture needs a guiding Myth. Ours is a sales pitch.

        • 100th Avatar December 4, 2017 at 5:39 pm #

          What did Grassley (been in Congress since 1975, but that’s totally legit-old school corruption) just say?

          Booze, women and movies?

          That’s what he says the hoi polloi waste their money on instead of gambling, uh, er… investing.

          Really in touch with his constituents though.

      • elysianfield December 4, 2017 at 6:44 pm #

        “It takes an exceptional person to be normal, now.”

        Normal?…Begs for a definition.

        • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 7:05 am #

          Being redefined almost daily now.

    • 100th Avatar December 4, 2017 at 5:45 pm #

      Well said.
      It’s all marketing.
      Everything. Everywhere. All the time.
      If one has the discipline to question after every interaction “how are they ultimately trying to get into my wallet?” they can perhaps shield themselves.

      But keeping them out of your mind?
      Buenos suerte.

      It’s past being brainwashed (i.e., convinced) to consume and spend.
      It’s programming.
      To vote
      To accept
      To regard
      To understand
      To think
      To believe

      How they want you

  24. PeteAtomic December 4, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

    The Deep State is in full court press vs. Trump right now if you take this information in the article there & the “impeachment train” that the Sunday morning bobble heads were all juiced up on.

    Opensecrets.org is a good site to see who paid out to which candidate in elections. I’m a believer in following the money, so you have to ask yourself why Comcast (owns NBC among others) would give HRC close to 490,000 for her campaign. What do they get?

    I think the bureaucracy/power elite desperately wants an executive who will continue on the track that Clinton/Bush/Obama had been on for decades– this globalist agenda that stresses corporate power over national sovereignty & a pro-military neo-conservatist stance in relations to US power in the world.

    In other words– the Deep State desperately wants the status quo. It isn’t interested in any types of reforms or changes that may challenge this. It has been many decades in the making post-WWII.

    Trump is too much of a wild card for the executive.

    • My Point of View December 4, 2017 at 5:05 pm #

      The Koch bros and their circle of obscenely wealthy types put up 890,000,000 for the GOP in the 2016 election cycle. What do they get?

      • PeteAtomic December 4, 2017 at 6:38 pm #

        Oh sure. Great question. Neither party is exempt from corruption.
        What the Koch brothers get (or Soros for the demos)– it’d be interesting to be the fly on the wall in the rooms where these big power types are telling their lobbyists what they want from the Swamp.

      • daveed December 4, 2017 at 6:58 pm #

        Sadly, it looks like the Kochs are going to get a piece of Time Inc.

  25. volodya December 4, 2017 at 12:40 pm #

    WalterB, it’s astounding the level of delusion that people will live with especially when they’re fully aware of their own craziness.

    It’s like a shared, waking dream-world where rules of cause and effect no longer apply, where rational, survival oriented reality-testing is suspended. As you say they bloody KNOW they’re being lied to.

    And, in the case of Obama, they’re fully aware that the speaker comes to the podium with nothing except a hat-full of weak-ass platitudes (Hope and Change, Yes We Can). And yet it turns into a hysterical panty-throw. Madness of the crowds as they say.

    In the end, as one commenter sez, it was just a continuation of Dubya. But, no matter, people still live the delusion.

  26. amb December 4, 2017 at 12:45 pm #

    I’m so tired of these political soap operas and the damage they do to us and our country. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if all of this deception, devious and evil machinations, manipulation and propaganda via PR, graft, childish mentalities, adversarial postures, etc. disappeared from government and politics?

    The idea of a government run by adults who possess high levels of integrity and morality, and an education based on facts and history, united in the mission of improving conditions for its citizens and, with a vision for the future, working towards creating a country of strength, opportunity, participation, prosperity, personal freedom, good will, etc. that would set an example for other countries… warms the cockles of my heart.

    Our government is corrupt, bloated and obsolete. I look upon Congress, the Supreme Court and our judicial system, and our “national security” branches as enemies of the state. Our system no longer works. It has been infiltrated and perverted.

    We need to rise up out of the mud and open our eyes, ascend from our base awareness and methods, unless we want to just keep repeating the tape loop of empires rising and falling.

    • PeteAtomic December 4, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

      thank you, exactly.

      Don’t look to the 2 major parties for any solutions.

      • daveed December 4, 2017 at 7:01 pm #

        That’s right. Stop playing the “Dems vs Republicans” game. Somehow.

        • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 7:04 am #

          Sure to require a total dismantling, as neither will go away quietly.

    • beantownbill. December 4, 2017 at 1:15 pm #

      Your second paragraph is an excellent description of how politicians should be.

      • 100th Avatar December 4, 2017 at 5:24 pm #

        The third paragraph being the best.

        • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 5:45 pm #

          Yep. We’re essentially under hostile rule. Have been since Kennedy, at least.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 9:10 pm #

      Ok, now subject your idealism to the acid test of human nature. Can it survive? Yes, if you eliminate most voters via testing. No, if you allow everyone with a heartbeat to vote.

      • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 7:03 am #

        Have to agree with you there, Janos. Quite a conundrum, isn’t it? How do you reasonably limit the vote and still ensure all the wolves don’t take even further license with the sheep? That’s why benign monarchies have historically had an advantage, although making sure they remain benign is troublesome as well.

      • outsider December 5, 2017 at 12:14 pm #

        Janos,
        I don’t like the idea of testing. Too much Big Brother, and liberals/leftists will write the test anyway since they control the universities. Ideally limit the vote to property owners as our Founding Fathers did, as property owners all have skin in the game. No one too poor to pay taxes should have the right to vote, as they’ll just vote for one thing – MORE.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2017 at 2:17 pm #

          That might insure the triumph of selfishness of a different order. Voting, at least past the local level, has to be guided by knowledge – and I’d say a record of service, military in the case of men. Corporations have lots of “skin in the game” but I hate most of what they do. Of course I would say that: As a National Socialist I’d drive them out if they didn’t play ball with the nation. I simply don’t have a purely economic philosophy of life. There are more important things and a Nation must be founded on those Principles not just “Profit”.

  27. Bruce E December 4, 2017 at 1:38 pm #

    The Flynn lying to the FBI charge is a red herring. It is not the point. It is a gift to Flynn — a lesser charge he is fine with pleading guilty too because he’ll serve little or no jail time and pay a token fine as long as Mueller gets what he wants.

    The link between Flynn’s crime an collusion with Russia is not the point. Save for, “why did Flynn have this Kislyak on speed-dial already in December?” the crime itself is not the connection. The crime, and his plea deal, is leverage for Mueller to get what he really wants.

    What I’m wondering, however, is if Mueller will let an easy-win tempt him into taking the bait for the spin I see coming. Consider a scenario where Manafort and his Russian contacts played puppet-master for an in-over-their-heads pair of idiots in Kushner and Trump Jr, and all of the collusion was funneled through the evil genius Manafort (who was in debt to his Russian masters and they knew where the money-laundering bodies were buried, etc., and had that kind of leverage over him to get him to do their dirty work). If Mueller can get Flynn to sing this tune, there are a TON on the left that will be ready to swallow that narrative, and Trump/Pence are both spared, and Kushner/Junior are pardoned/sentences-commuted, and even Manafort serves a few years in a white collar prison/resort and comes out a rich man when his book deal for “The Puppet Master” pays a handsome advance.

    Everybody gets what they want. HRC gets her excuse on why she lost what should have been an un-lose-able election. Trump can just go on being Trump and say, “See? All that and nobody touched me. Therefore NO COLLUSION just like I said,” because the facts of the matter and the meaning of the word, “collusion,” long ago left on the A-train to Whateversville, Indiana.

    • Ol' Scratch December 4, 2017 at 3:33 pm #

      Sounds entirely plausible.

  28. Ludwig Beck December 4, 2017 at 1:55 pm #

    “I did not vote for Donald Trump and I do not admire him…”

    Why does Jim have to explain himself with these caveats every week?

    I believe the first part. Not so sure about the second.

    Jim has been doing a great job Monday-morning-defending the President after Trump has already cheated the hangman for well over a year now. Jim, however, has completely bought into the conspiracy theory of Deep State removing the President in a soft coup. He has been predicting this. I bet he doesn’t see it as a conspiracy-theory, though – because, well, he’s not a conspiracy-theory nut. Remind me again what this “Deep State” is exactly. Is it headed by a Martian or Elon Musk?

    We know Jim doesn’t like the current state of the nation and believes we have been in decline for some time. Yet, so far, Trump hasn’t done anything that wasn’t expected…except survive.

    Without any substantive, specific policy-type issues to attack the President on – Jim just looks like an another angry hater with nothing but the man’s hair to poke at.

    It is not in Jim’s nature to support the President but I might consider doing so if I were him. It would show he has faith in something besides his failed predictions.

    There’s a good chance Trump will finish his term and America will be no worse for it. There’s a good chance the price of oil won’t make it past $70 for the next three years. There’s a good chance the next three years will look more like the last 10 than Jim’s visions of doom.

    • James Howard Kunstler December 4, 2017 at 4:12 pm #

      The Deep State is composed of the large permanent federal bureaucracy and its taskmasters in banking and corporate business. The core of the Deep State is the state security apparatus, which has agendas of its own and great means for carrying them out — including universal surveillance of internet communications, black box crypto-military assets, and potent propaganda ability with a compliant news media.
      I explain frequently that I am not a Trump partisan because of my aversion to being misunderstood. However, I consider his opponents (my former Democratic party allies) to be more disgracefully dishonest even than Trump and his coterie.

    • Robert White December 4, 2017 at 5:42 pm #

      With $21 trillion deficit, $300 trillion unsecured liabilities, $1.5 quadrillion USD Dark Pool Derivatives, unrecorded mass unemployment of millions upon millions of disaffected & disenfranchised poverty stricken homeless, a divided and polarized populous, and a wealth extraction Giant Vampire Squid Whore House administration, it is highly likely that a scenario of fiscal doom is the specter that awaits us whilst the can is perpetually kicked down the road of degradation to Thermonuclear ‘Hot’ World War Three.

      P.S. The Cheeto-head-in-chief is going to get you killed outright, Ludwig. Wake up before you lose your life to that false dream where Trump is normalized enough to fit the delusion. WAKE UP, Ludwig.

      RW

      • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 6:57 am #

        Yes, discrimination exists….especially against the ill-tempered, ill-mannered, and overtly ignorant.

        Indeed. The rich.

      • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 6:58 am #

        Trump is a symptom, not the disease itself. It goes far deeper than him and his.

  29. BuckP December 4, 2017 at 2:34 pm #

    “Back channel talks” between RFK and Soviet Ambassador Dobrynan during the Cuban missile crisis spared the world from a nuclear conflict. JFK was surrounded by radical hawks on the JCS, namely, Lemnitzer and Lemay, who pushed for an nvasion of Cuba and yjought the US would win a first strike nuclear war. Khrushchev was also surrounded by radicals, who gave permission to their officers in Cuba to launch nuclear missiles If they felt threatened. Thank God cooler heads prevailed. “Back channel talks” aren’t always bad. Flynn talked to the Russian Ambassador after the election. Where is the proof of collusion with Russia by the Trump campaign? Trump Jr. tried to get dirt on Hillary from Asange and the DNC tried to buy the ex MI6 agent Steele’s dossier on Trump. That is just dirty politics which is the norm every four years. Both parties have zero concern for the average, working American and are bought and paid for by the oligarchy to whom they owe their allegiance. They lie every two or fours to us by telling us they feel our pain, throw a few crumbs and then back to business as usual.

  30. FincaInTheMountains December 4, 2017 at 2:53 pm #

    Summary of the past week

    The past week was so full of important events that it is impossible to sum up the results without ranking those events by importance.

    Therefore, in this post, only those events that I personally consider to be not only important but important because they explain the fact that last Friday there was an attempted coup d’état in the US that was supposed to lead to the arrest and most likely to the assassination of President Trump, but at the first stage was suppressed by his supporters.

    The tip of the iceberg of this coup is that on Friday the deal was announced between General Flynn – the first National Security Adviser to President Trump – with the special prosecutor Mueller, who is investigating Trump’s relations with Russia, and that as a result of this transaction, the investigation obtained evidence of Trump’s guilt and he will be arrested in the coming days.

    A few hours later, apparently after the coup was suppressed, it turned out that this message was a little exaggerated, but during this time the markets collapsed by 350 points and a couple of trillion dollars have changed hands, and the organizers of the coup made the appropriate bets in advance and pocketed several hundred billion dollars.

    As a scapegoat was chosen ABC journalist Brian Ross, who “made” this news, but President Trump called on investors who lost money as a result of this incident, to look closer at the news agencies.

    nytimes.com/2017/12/02/us/brian-ross-suspended-abc.html?_r=0

    In retrospect, some details of these events suggest that Trump was preparing for an attempt to overthrow him in this way since January 2017, when he was forced to fire General Flynn. And if he foresaw that the organizers of the coup would try to make money on it by making the appropriate bets on the stock exchange and prepared well for this, then Clinton media will soon go bankrupt, and I will be able to find a job, which is undoubtedly the main result of this whole adventure.

    In addition, these events remind that last week began with rumors that, on the orders of General Dunford, several US Marine Corps detachments raided the CIA headquarters in Langley, arrested the employees of the “Mockingbird” department, who was engaged in manipulating the media, seized computers of this department, where the “erased” correspondence of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was discovered, and her costume was nicely amended with an ankle bracelet.

    And the end of the week again confirmed the rumors, suggesting that the attempted coup d’état was an attack by a rat driven into a corner.

    But the most important event of the past week is North Korea’s agreement to negotiate with the US if Russia is the third party at the negotiating table, as it clearly showed that demonstrating by North Korea its ability to strike a thermonuclear blow at any point in the US was a signal to the organizers of the coup that their plans are known and the success of this adventure will be regarded as the capture by Hillary Clinton of the American red button, despite the loss in the election, with all the ensuing consequences.

    yahoo.com/entertainment/rank-amateurs-washington-face-united-113000318.html

  31. ohhnoo-latepayment December 4, 2017 at 3:22 pm #

    “I did not vote for Donald Trump and I do not admire him…”

    Thanks for letting us know. How’s your admiration for the deep state holding up? You imply you did vote, and that should be a source of laughter but that’s another issue.

    Trump is a decoy, the most suitable decoy. The sustained stage show presents our Trump as a twitter wielding opposing force, but it’s all simulated: ‘DC and Wall Street hate him as does the press. They’re out to get him, they’re faking Russia’

    They’re faking most things. This is the biggest pile of horseshit some of us have ever seen.

    • akmofo December 4, 2017 at 5:54 pm #

      Imagine what the Russian people have to deal with. There isn’t even really a fake show for them to be entertained by, just state sponsored slutty old hags playing dominatrix to really shitty music.

      • FincaInTheMountains December 4, 2017 at 6:12 pm #

        With the partners like you, who needs shitty TV shows?

        • akmofo December 4, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

          C’mon, stop holding hands with these criminals. Gov mafia is gov mafia. I make no distinction between their nationality. Nor do they. As George Carlin aptly said, it’s their club and you and I are not in it.

          • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 6:55 am #

            Thing is, we don’t know anything about the Russian “government mafia,” as all that we think we know is little more than US government sponsored propaganda being filtered through our lying MSM. And it’s not really any of our business anyway. Russians can take care of themselves (and they’re pretty damn good at it too!), while Americans surely have more on their plates than they can handle for the foreseeable future.

            And a final sobering thought: Russia has already been through their cold-war induced social/economic/political collapse, and after finally defeating the western sponsored financial oligarchs, come out on the other side doing just fine, in spite of nearly constant underhanded US efforts to subvert it at every turn. The United States is only now beginning the same process and is clearly showing signs that it might not emerge intact whatsoever. And the longer it fights a delaying action by being in denial of that fact, the worse the inevitable collapse will certainly be.

          • akmofo December 5, 2017 at 9:13 am #

            We know everything about the Russian gov mafia. Who do you think Putin and the rest of his thieving gang is? They’re KGB! The KGB and CIA were birthed by the Vatican. The KGB and CIA are Siamese twins joined at the hip. The USA-USSR gov mafia is a Vatican tag-team. Too same!

            The same Vatican that insists on Jerusalem being an “international city” via its UN resolution 188. We forget that Arafat, the PLO, and its whole palistanian propaganda narrative was completely spawned and sponsored by the KGB, and that it was then enthusiastically promulgated internationally by the CIA and the Jesuit media. A Vatican tag-team in the fake Vatican contrived and scripted Hegelian dialectic.

            EU to Trump: Serious repercussions if US recognizes Jerusalem ch7.io/c7uQ$Fw?

          • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 9:25 am #

            You might have something there ak. I’ve never extrapolated it all that far before, but I’d be open to the argument. Got any book links to support it?

          • akmofo December 5, 2017 at 10:23 am #

            Consult the book of knowledge.

            You have to ask how did the KGB learn its spycraft? Where did all that knowledge come from? How did the nazis learn their spycraft? How did the CIA?

            How were millions of Nazis smuggled abroad? Why? Who provided the documents? Who provided the ratlines? Why? Why are world leaders constantly conferring with the Vatican? Why is this never on the news?

            It’s amazing what you can do when you’ve made yourself invisible.

          • Ol' Scratch December 6, 2017 at 1:14 pm #

            akmofo,

            Here’s the investigative research that goes beyond supporting your claims. Pretty much torpedoes Christianity altogether:

            amazon.com/CHRISTS-VENTRILOQUISTS-Event-Created-Christianity-ebook/dp/B007Q1H4EG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pro…

            And it’s FREE on Kindle!

          • Ol' Scratch December 6, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

            Oops, make that 5 bucks unless you’re an unlimited member.

          • akmofo December 7, 2017 at 6:04 am #

            Google: Joseph Atwill

            He’s got several books out on Christianity. There are also plenty of YouTube videos with him ‘splaining what exactly is Christianity, why it was created, and by whom.

          • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2017 at 6:24 am #

            Interesting. Mirrors Eric Zeusse’s contention that Christianity was first and foremost a political instrument to neutralize Jewish and generalized discontent of the time – “opiate of the masses” and all that – and to bring it under state control. I think that part’s fairly uncontroversial and well-substantiated.

            Zeusse further contends that Paul/Saul of Tarsus was the mastermind behind all this for whatever reasons. Haven’t read the book yet, but bought it yesterday. Amazon Reviews praise the author’s exhaustive research methodology, but say the writing is pedantic and repetitive. I’ll let you know after I read it.

      • outsider December 5, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

        Akmofo,
        Your imagination astounds me! I sure didn’t know that the Pope, head of a dying RC church, wielded power over Putin and Trump, basically controlling the world. Who coulda’ guessed it?

        • akmofo December 5, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

          It’s not imagination, it’s an instinct for propaganda bullshit and a taste for rudimentary knowledge of history. History that they don’t teach you in your Jesuit run public schools and media.

          As for your braindead nonsense, a dying Church doesn’t maintain thousands of churches and cathedrals in pristine condition, it sells them to feed and maintain its staff. A dying Church doesn’t comfortably run thousands of schools and universities throughout the world, it sells them to feed and maintain its staff. A dying church doesn’t merit the constant attention and respect of government agencies and top political leaders. These are in your face hints that even Inspector Clouseau would clue in to.

  32. akmofo December 4, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

    Your bitterness and depression stems from psychological ignorance and naivete. Politicians are not there to serve you, they are there to serve their friends and sponsors, that is, to serve themselves.

  33. beantownbill. December 4, 2017 at 3:27 pm #

    Does anyone here notice that we have gained several left-leaning trolls today?

    • fineline December 4, 2017 at 5:28 pm #

      To notice at all reveals a bias.

      • malthuss December 4, 2017 at 11:14 pm #

        new names are appearing, today.

        • LagingRunatic December 5, 2017 at 1:05 pm #

          I appeared a few weeks ago. I am left-leaning (because my right leg is longer than my left). I am not a troll, though I do regularly play a gnome in D&D.

    • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 6:43 am #

      I’ll bet janet, aka Lil Snack Pack, and/or her crew have spawned some new identities.

  34. fineline December 4, 2017 at 5:26 pm #

    iT IS ONE THING TO HAVE ‘BACKCHANNEL ” COMMUNICATIONS AND IT IS QUITE ANOTHER TO LIE ABOUT IT.

    It is quite another to have the VP to go on Meet the Press and lie to the American people about it.

    “Falsus in uno , falsus in omnium” Aside from the obious, what else are they lying about?

    If all of their conduct was so benign, what are they so busy covering up?

    • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 6:41 am #

      The bitch is aspiring to be the John McCain of her generation. A royal pain in the ass!

      • outsider December 5, 2017 at 12:54 pm #

        Scratch,
        Let us not speak ill of a deranged old man with terminal brain cancer, whose days left on this miserable planet are quickly running out. How will we go on without him?

        • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 8:24 pm #

          He’s pitiful, really. Still trying to live up to some deranged imagined familial public service legacy that his father and father’s father saddled him with. Losing to Bush the way he did in 2000 definitely changed him, not that he was ever all that courageous or morally upright in the first place. The 2008 humiliation should have and would have been the final straw for any normal person, but the old bastard simply didn’t have anything else to fall back on. So he decided to share his misery with the rest of the world for the rest of his days. For our sake, if not his, let’s hope that they’re mercifully short.

  35. 100th Avatar December 4, 2017 at 5:32 pm #

    Flynn is playing-ball with Torquemueller to keep his rather cocky meathead son, Michael G. Flynn of Pizzagate tweets. out of the clink (The Clink).

    The senior Flynn had disparaged Clinton when he said if he had done 1/10th of what HRC did…

    She’ll have the last cackle.

    She promised to.

  36. fineline December 4, 2017 at 5:58 pm #

    I suppose Summer Zervos is a lying , too

    • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 4:33 pm #

      Ask yourself, if all these women had such airtight cases, why didn’t they go straight to a formal lawsuit (group or class action if necessary) instead of choosing to try these things in the court of opinion? Because the standard of proof is much lower (hell, completely non-existent!) and they were hoping to extort money and fame with little or no personal costs involved? Or maybe, just maybe, because someone rich and powerful (a dozen parties removed, of course) whispered in their ear and offered them something – cash and prizes (once again, untraceable) – for doing their dirty work? Smear campaigns are just too easy and too effective to employ, which is why the deep state has long relied on them so much; murders and the ritual breaking of knee caps having long since fallen out of favor as far too messy and gauche for the modern day criminal set.

      And another thing, why are all these women (and gays) coming out now against so many men from so many different areas of life all at once? Doesn’t that smack of an organized event (yes, a CONSPIRACY) in the least, to discredit powerful rich white men in general, as a way of further shaping public opinion against Trump in particular? Do you simply not comprehend these things or do you view them as just too far fetched to be believed? I’ve got news for you, there’s a whole library of serious books out there that document the tactics of the US “deep state,” which has been doing things like these and SO MUCH MORE for well over a hundred years now at least, and since the end of WWII especially in earnest. Frankly, all of this is simply child’s play to these people, so I imagine they’re really enjoying themselves with the utter gullibility of the American public for swallowing it all so willingly.

  37. wm5135 December 4, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

    Anyone remember this gem?

    “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out.”

    The operative part of the statement for me is “we’ll act again, creating other new realities”.

    Make it shiny, make it cheap and make sure they believe they deserve it. Reference every commodity to sexual vigor place a taboo on intimacy and watch the sales of symbols rise. And then…..”we’ll act again, creating other new realities”.

    We are our own existential threat, do you think they do not have popcorn in Russia and China?

    Thank you Mr. Kunstler for your thoughts and access to your blog.

    • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 6:39 am #

      That Karl Rove was a real poet. We thought it was just hubris at the time. Little did we know…

      • outsider December 5, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

        Whatever happened to Rove? Is he ever on Fox anymore? It appears that Trump wisely wanted no part of “Bush’s brain.”

      • Elrond Hubbard December 5, 2017 at 1:44 pm #

        Technically we don’t know that it was Karl Rove who said that (although, duh, of course he did). Ron Suskind attributed the quote to a “senior advisor” to G. W. Bush. Personally I’m always irresistibly reminded of O’Brien from 1984:

        “You believe that reality is something objective, external, existing in its own right. You also believe that the nature of reality is self-evident. When you delude yourself into thinking that you see something, you assume that everyone else sees the same thing as you. But I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have got to relearn, Winston. It needs an act of self- destruction, an effort of the will. You must humble yourself before you can become sane.”

        • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 4:12 pm #

          Great quote! I imagine that’s exactly what Rove was referring too as well.

          I think Rove probably made his last stand with Bushy. It’d be damn hard for him to ever top that, and I’m sure he’s already embezzled all the money he’ll ever need.

  38. FincaInTheMountains December 4, 2017 at 6:06 pm #

    Finca April 14, 2017:

    After China will fail to negotiate a settlement between US and N. Korea, Russia will be able to persuade Kim Jong-un to slow down his ballistic nuclear missile program.

    kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/7396/#comment-301065

    Yahoo December 3, 2017:

    ‘Rank Amateurs in Washington’ Face United Russia, North Korea

    yahoo.com/entertainment/rank-amateurs-washington-face-united-113000318.html

    US was trolled by N.Korea and the owner of the trolling is not China at all.

  39. BackRowHeckler December 4, 2017 at 7:25 pm #

    So basically Mike Flynn is being prosecuted for doing his job. What puzzles me is Flynn met with Russian officials after Trump won the election. I thought the investigation was about colluding with Russia before the election took place. Its very confusing.

    Big news here is CVS Pharmacy bought Aetna insurance for a cool $67 billion. I had an idea Aetna was in trouble a few years ago when I was called to Hartford for a tax audit. I decided to take the bus into town and make a day of it. Big mistake. In the first place the city busses are full of poor people who smell bad and are clearly mentally ill. In the second place I spent the morning walking past empty storefronts and boarded up buildings. The place seemed ominous, like something terrible had happened. Anyway, after the audit I started walking west on Farmington Ave toward the Mark Twain and Harriet Beecher Stowe houses. People were loitering on the streets, hundreds of them, few of whom spoke English. I decided to get on the next bus home and get out of there, and waited at the bus stop in front of the Aetna Building, a unique structure built in 1930, the largest colonial style building in the world, the pride of New England. I noticed the neighborhood was no longer bucolic and witnessed open drug deals in front of the convenience store (with bars on the windows) across the street. Then there was Aetna itself, grass uncut, trees not pruned, sidewalks crumbling, bricks missing from walls … it was clear the place was not being kept up, was being let go, as if nobody cared any longer, and the business itself was getting ready to clear out.

    brh

    • Janos Skorenzy December 4, 2017 at 9:14 pm #

      Thus did the Old Ones let Innsmouth go to seed. It wasn’t their civilization after all and they didn’t care about it. They only cared about it using it for their own purposes whatever those were or are. No doubt they involve dragging the Earth off to some nameless place for some nameless purpose.

      • BackRowHeckler December 4, 2017 at 9:46 pm #

        Three hundred years of Anglo-American wealth piled up in these New England cities

        it took only about 4 decades to be devoured like locusts going thru biblical wheat

        the only thing left is the husks

        brh

        • malthuss December 4, 2017 at 11:15 pm #

          1965 to today is 52 years.

          Population has doubled?

          Welfare state.

        • outsider December 5, 2017 at 1:07 pm #

          BRH,
          You get the same feeling the minute you leave the Boardwalk in Atlantic City. I walked one block in, looking for a drug store, couldn’t find what I was looking for, and couldn’t wait to get out of there. So much for the casinos promise to share the wealth a little. Trump only has one left as the other one went bankrupt.

          • malthuss December 5, 2017 at 8:42 pm #

            Rumor is the ONLY coastal area -in USA-sinking is in NJ and thats because of non Whites.

    • stelmosfire December 4, 2017 at 9:37 pm #

      Hi BRH, my wife worked in that beautiful old building in the early 80’s. Have you seen what their new diggs in NYC will look like? It could easily make it into JHK’s “Eyesore of the Month”. The new building is pictured at the end of this article from the Courant.
      courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-biz-aetna-timeline-hartford-20171203-story.html

      • stelmosfire December 4, 2017 at 9:42 pm #

        I forgot to mention that while she was there the boss was fond of playing grab ass with all the young girls in the office. Do you think it is to late to file a complaint? The girls just told him he was an asshole and that was about it. No life long mental scars to carry around.

        • BackRowHeckler December 4, 2017 at 9:49 pm #

          I think I know that guy.

          He was an asshole but hes old now and its probably too late to kick the sh-t out of him.

          Good to hear from you again Stelmose.

          Well time to get back to work.

          brh

          • BackRowHeckler December 4, 2017 at 9:50 pm #

            The Day of the Hyena is truly here.

    • Robert White December 4, 2017 at 9:40 pm #

      Whenever you think things cannot possibly get worse they always do. The USA is completely bankrupt if this is even remotely true.
      Moreover, it’s a Mafia state and not a police state. Lastly, never forget that Markopolous could not get officialdom to act on the control fraud he exposed with Madoff until the 08 crash forced their hand. The same applies to the $21trillion that Skidmore just uncovered. As he stated the GAO removed the links that exposed the data. Clearly, they will bury the story until they are forced to reveal the missing money.

      RW

      • pequiste December 5, 2017 at 12:46 am #

        21 TRILLION SMACKERS!

        That, comrade CFNers, is some continent-sized shitpile of money.
        And it all disappeared down the abysmal gaping maw of the Deep State.
        Cost overruns for the F-35 or Osprey? Navy navigation systems? Aid to our “allies” in Shitholistan? Conventions? PLaques? Boondoggles?

        They could have easily bought an entire medium GDP country, lock, stock, and barrel, for that kind of cabbage.

        The Mafia stands reverently in awe of Unkle S(c)am’s bizness acumen and use of muscle.

        “… they will bury the story…” RW.

        ” They” will bury Professor Skidmore with this sort of accusation; he placed himself in gravest jeopardy with the release of this research.

        I read somewhere there is an opening for an associate professor of Economics at Irkutsk State University.

    • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 6:35 am #

      I’m only surprised that anyone could be surprised by any of this. Once you fully realize that the 9-11 (and OKC, and Kennedy, and King…) crime was an inside job, you also realize that literally anything is on the table for these people.

  40. messianicdruid December 4, 2017 at 9:12 pm #

    A lawyer would call this precedent:

    “But what about CANDIDATE Obama interfering in President Bush’s policy toward Russia in the fall of 2008, BEFORE the election?
    Geohistory.today has an article, dated October 27, 2008, a few days before Obama won the presidential election for the first time, titled, “US Elections Come to Moscow,” by Anna Wiesfieler:

    “Last week [before the 2008 presidential election] saw the release of Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope, in Russian translation to Russian markets. One of his foreign policy advisors, Mike McFaul, also made a trip to Moscow to meet with various Russian officials and interest groups, speaking off the record and answering questions.”

    “McFaul addressed how US relations with Ukraine and Georgia might affect US-Russia relations in the future [!]. Speaking at the Peking Hotel in Moscow at an event organized by Democrats Abroad Russia for Americans living in Russia, McFaul established that this is potentially a major campaign issue for Senator Obama. There are a large number of swing voters (several million) whose heritage comes from Eastern Europe or the Caucasus region. For these voters, US-Russia relations and relations with states in those regions has become a vital issue that could potentially swing votes to one candidate or the other.”

    “The day before, at the Carnegie Endowment Center in Moscow, McFaul also fielded questions ranging from explanations of the primary and general election process to the August crisis in Georgia and Russia’s concerns about Ukraine and Georgia receiving NATO membership action plans.”

    “Pointing to a number of Senator Obama’s statements, including one from April 2008 (before the crisis) where Senator Obama was concerned that violence may erupt in the southern part of the Republic of Georgia, McFaul conveyed concern about the situation in the Caucasus. Speaking to NATO enlargement, he noted, as have many others, that both US candidates for president support NATO expansion. However, Senator Obama has consistently referred to NATO rules whereby the people of a candidate state must support entry into NATO and that NATO rules state that not only must territorial disputes be resolved before entry into the Alliance, but that a member state cannot use violence against its own people.”

    Talk about sticking fingers in the foreign policy of the US—and BEFORE Obama was elected!“

    • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 6:28 am #

      Nobody ever accused the Dems of being consistent. Good thing, since they’re basically the GOP wrapped up in a transparently thin veneer of faux social consciousness.

      • outsider December 5, 2017 at 1:13 pm #

        Don’t ya know, the only country that is officially permitted to interfere in US faux elections is Israel.

        • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 5:26 pm #

          Ain’t that the truth!

          • S M Tenneshaw December 6, 2017 at 3:29 pm #

            No.

  41. lbs December 4, 2017 at 9:13 pm #

    This is what I love about Kunstler. Like myself he has grown up in a society governed by fundamentalist progressivism. But he feels no need to acquiesce to their insane beliefs in order to “get along”. He’s more interested in seeking the truth, and if it happens to offend the apologists for the Deep State and the self righteous progressivists, he does not give a flying f***.

    • 100th Avatar December 4, 2017 at 10:00 pm #

      The deep state is shielded.
      A ballistic weave with the progressive left.
      Bulletproof

      Gender issues, abortion, dreamers?
      Are you serious?
      Take it
      All
      You can have it.

      Just leave us high finance, energy and most importantly defense and statecraft

      • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 6:26 am #

        I’m not a poetry guy, so forgive me for asking 100th, but is there a particular poetic form your adopting for your posts now, or is it simply eclectic? It’s an interesting look. Might get you to 101 if you keep it up.

        • 100th Avatar December 5, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

          Yes, thank you for noticing.
          Its the TriSmeter.
          TriA meaning 3S
          As in the iPhone 3S I fat-finger to death while posting.

          • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 4:53 pm #

            LOL! Those damn phones will kill you!

          • SpeedyBB December 7, 2017 at 10:18 pm #

            Just a helpful note:

            I have recently invested in a couple of mini-Bluetooth keyboards, each around the size of a pack of pencils (remember them? no?) that I use to type messages on the smartphone / tablet. On-screen keyboards drive me crazy, maybe you too.

            The Bluetooth is not perfect (I’m being nice about this) but once it goes linky then you can type like hell-for-leather, and not make as many mistakes.

            Good investment – about $30. for one. Sometimes it’s hard to get them hitched up though.

    • ..Captain America.. December 4, 2017 at 10:56 pm #

      GOT LOVE??
      youtube.com/watch?v=th_LUmwjVMQ&list=PLl55Zh3U2VW7YD-JKHT0vYIk1ZCrK7c4-

      C
      A

    • Pucker December 5, 2017 at 5:25 am #

      JHK is the Buddhist Monk with the squeaky shoes.

  42. FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2017 at 2:50 am #

    Einstein and Duchamp turned out to be right again

    As you know, there is no such silliness that humanity would not have put on a pedestal, if this silliness helps making money or subordinate other people to its power.

    In this sense, the famous Fountain by Marcel Duchamp, which was created in 1917 to argue with Man Ray, that the Open Society of Independent Artists will refuse to take it to the exhibition is noteworthy.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)

    Then this used urinal was thrown out, but in the 40s and 50s Duchamp again argued for this urinal that he would make it a great work of art and sell for a million bucks just to prove that the main quality of any work of art in America is a price tag.

    Together with his friends from Yale University, he developed a whole theory about a special artistic space, getting into which the urinal turns into a work of art, and won a bet by selling several urinals immersed in the artistic space for humongous amounts of money.

    But the funny thing is that this theory has become stronger, has taken roots, has spawned other trends in art that develop or refute this theory, and now telling serious art historians that it was originally a joke is useless – what kind of joke can be if a person sold an ordinary used urinal for a shit load of dollars?!

    But an even more ridiculous situation, very similar to Duchamp’s used urinal, has developed in modern science and is now rapidly seizing industry, getting ready to become a powerful economic factor.

    In 1935, Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen formulated the EPR paradox, which was supposed to show the absurdity of quantum mechanics. Their article “Can the quantum-mechanical description of physical reality be considered complete?” Was published in No. 47 of the journal Physical Review, and it described an undeniable thought experiment in which the Heisenberg uncertainty principle is violated.

    But in the same year a big joker Schrödinger came up with a kind of “entanglement” state with which he “unraveled” the paradox by entangling quantum mechanics so much that Richard Feynman had no choice but to interpret it using the shut up and calculate method.

    This method was so successful that a few months ago physicists managed to build a quantum time machine and now if they manage to entangle the atoms of the body of grandson with the atoms of his grandmother’s body; the grandson can finally return to the past and whack his grandmother before she gives birth to his parents.

    But the most interesting is that the result of this experiment is being anxiously awaited by the entire computer industry and the world community, because it is on the effect of entanglement is the main idea of the so-called quantum computers rests. The power of these computers is so great that soon the total amount of grants awarded for the discovery of the Higgs boson will be finally tallied up, the Navier-Stokes equations for the F-35 fighter jet attacking North Korea will be solved numerically, and the citizens of Russia will finally enjoy pornography so realistic that real sex will no longer interest them, Putin’s fertility program will fail miserably, he will lose the election and Hillary Clinton will finally be able to overthrow Trump, who’d lose his main if not the only support in the person of President Putin.

    You understand that after such results no one will remember what the EPR paradox was formulated for, just as nobody now remembers why Duchamp started making his urinals.

    • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 6:31 am #

      You remain as inscrutable as ever Finca. Whatever it is you’re smoking down there, I WANT SOME TOO!

      • K-Dog December 5, 2017 at 11:32 am #

        Yup, that last part about computers took a lot of THC to generate. It must be a new strain of cannabis called ‘mental mania’ or ‘grandiose grape’ or something. I’ll have to venture into a weed store after I print out the comment and say.

        ‘I want some of this.’

        One could make the argument that I am definitely involved in the computer industry. But ‘anxiously awaited by the entire computer industry” I doubt since I’ve never heard of any of this and I should know. A fantasy built with no whole cloth at all. That being so, the trip to the weed store with the comment is definitely in my plans. Not working near any schools there will be six stores withing a mile of me today. I have choices.

  43. malthuss December 5, 2017 at 10:29 am #

    venezuelan-president-announces-petro-oil-backed-cryptocurrency/

    coindesk.com/venezuelan-president-announces-petro-oil-backed-cryptocurrency/

  44. pequiste December 5, 2017 at 11:08 am #

    What now? Todays Celebrity Perv hot news from Baghdad on the Potomac!

    Michigan’s Democrat political fossil, John ” Booty Pirate” Conyers, still has not a scruple of sense or honor even though he quit today over his sexual misconduct scandal.

    He said he wants his son John Conyers III to take his seat.

    freep.com/story/news/columnists/rochelle-riley/2017/12/05/conyers-saga-nancy-pelosi-weak-leadership/…

    You know the son will get it.

    Democrats and Republicans (also Communists, Socialists, Pan-Arabists,….indeed power mongers of every persuasion) agree: Politics is a great family business!

    • outsider December 5, 2017 at 1:24 pm #

      Hey, ya gotta keep it in the family. In my Congressional district, Republican Bud Shuster held the seat for 28 years until he retired in 2001, then was replaced by his son Bill, who has been there ever since. No one of any merit ever runs against him.

  45. K-Dog December 5, 2017 at 11:18 am #

    Horrible thing.

    I woke up in the middle of the night and found I had abused myself. Now I have to go to work and RESIGN! I’ve joined the ranks of the gropers.

    Too bad Trump won’t do the same thing. He has the aura of someone who spends a lot of time groping himself.

    • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 12:47 pm #

      Might have to cut off your… err… paws! Or tongue, as the case may be.

    • volodya December 5, 2017 at 12:51 pm #

      Repent. Apologize.

      • outsider December 5, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

        Sounds like a case of spermatorrhea.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2017 at 2:29 pm #

      Someone saw that the King had donkey ears and he had to tell someone even though he was sworn to secrecy. He dug a hole and told it to the hole. In the morning, a tall plant had grown and it was swaying and shouting, “The King has donkey ears.”.

  46. volodya December 5, 2017 at 11:20 am #

    But there was plenty of evidence that the permanent bureaucracy of Washington wanted to use a politicized FBI against Trump in any way that it could to get rid of him.- JHK

    That’s the whole point. This is a coup d’état disguised by a sloppy veneer of due process.

    The Great and Powerful cannot abide Trump, they don’t trust him and never will no matter how many enrich-the-rich tax bills he signs. Trump could deliver the moon, and it wouldn’t be enough.

    There are certain people that the Ruling Class and its Deep State appendage will not accept as one of their own. For a long time Bill Clinton wasn’t accepted as his travails while in office showed. It didn’t matter that Bill de-regulated Wall Street banks, that he shepherded NAFTA, neither did it matter that he brought China into the WTO.

    But Bill eventually got his membership card by gorging on corporate money after his presidency. Bill’s feeding at the trough (and Hillary too) showed that the Clintons could be trusted. And membership paid off for the Clintons with Hillary getting away with the most astounding offenses.

    The Kennedys are now widely seen as America’s glamorous royal family. But it wasn’t always such and it had lethal consequences for them. A few generations ago, the contempt of the Ruling Class for these presumptuous Irish Catholics was matched in wide segments of the public. When the first one was gunned down, a public school teacher led her class in a rousing chorus of “Dixie” in celebration. Why did the Ruling Class get away with such heinous crimes and laughable “investigations”? It was because public support for this political decapitation was wide and deep.

    But Trump will never be a card-carrying club member. No matter what, unlike with Bill, unlike with the Kennedys, this is a problem that isn’t fixable. Time won’t fix it, nothing will.

    • K-Dog December 5, 2017 at 11:35 am #

      ‘But Trump will never be a card-carrying club member. ‘

      Don’t forget. The victorious write history, losers don’t, and I don’t like it any more than you do.

      • volodya December 5, 2017 at 12:53 pm #

        Yeah, they may write history but they don’t change the facts of history and facts are stubborn things.

  47. San Jose December 5, 2017 at 12:20 pm #

    In Left Coast news today (SFGate), over the weekend they held a drag ball for kids in San Francisco. Some kids got to have a make-over done by a genuine drag queen. A social for “gender-expansive” kids.

    Appalled in San Jose

    • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 12:46 pm #

      LOL! What will those crazy queers (is that still a PC allowable term?) think up next?

      • San Jose December 5, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

        Queer is politically correct. I know this from recent experience. Over the weekend, my church chose a new pastor–a woman who identifies as queer!!!!

        I didn’t vote for her, but the good news is that she is super smart (an undergraduate degree in physics before attending Princeton Theological Seminary). Also good news is that she isn’t an eyesore like most lesbians. She wears high heels and has lovely long hair.

        • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

          I always thought the term queer had a sort of simple elegance. And it covers a lot of ground, instead of having to try to pinpoint guess what sort of particular perversion any one of them has. “Oh, you’re queer? Well alright then, let’s get on to other business now.”

        • outsider December 5, 2017 at 1:38 pm #

          Oh, then she’s one of those “lipstick lesbians.” Maybe she’s ‘bi.’ So nice that Christianity has become so inclusive. So glad I don’t participate.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2017 at 2:26 pm #

            Studies show “lesbians” have been with more men than most women. Oh wait, does that invalidate my stance as in they know too much about men? As Herbert Spencer said, nothing is uglier than an inconvenient fact sticking up out of a perfect system.

            I had a lesbian friend once. She said maturity was getting treated like shit by other women. A point for my side to balance things out. She’d never been with a man. My friend wanted to initiate her in the mysteries of Heterosexuality but she got uncomfortable. Evidently she had never recovered from seeing her hippy mom and boyfriend get it on. Her words. She admitted existential bisexuality but couldn’t actualize it and thus didn’t want to either.

          • San Jose December 5, 2017 at 4:28 pm #

            I’m not sure how the older men in my church feel about her, except to say that during the discussion prior to voting the new pastor in, men were the folks planning to vote no. Fortunately, we have some outstanding retired male pastors in the congregation that will step up to the plate if needed to help.

            Our associate pastor is an Asian female who is dumb as rocks. (Yes, there are stupid Asians in the world.)

            The thing that really bugs me is that the PNC (pastoral nominating committee) decided–and this is a quote from a highly reliable source–“That it was OK to have a lesbian pastor, but NOT a republican pastor.”

            Jen in San Jose
            (Who has sprained her eye rolling muscle today!)

        • pequiste December 5, 2017 at 2:32 pm #

          There shall be all sorts of permutations at the altar now that one-who-plays-for-the-other-team is officiating I reckon. Unless your denomination is already providing the marriage service for LBgt…..

          A closet man-hater perhaps? Might make some of the men in the congregation uncomfortable about having any sort of theological or otherwise discussion with the new clergyperson.

          I wonder what non-inclusive, judgemental, hateful, and otherwise damning passages have been redacted from the Bible y’all use?

    • volodya December 5, 2017 at 12:48 pm #

      The people that advocate for this nonsense draw themselves up to a great height and tell everyone that they’re the most enlightened.

      No they’re not. There’s a multitude of fires burning so what do these people obsess about? Gender fluidity. Absurd.

      • San Jose December 5, 2017 at 12:51 pm #

        I’m very grateful that when my son was four, he wanted to be Batman!

        Jen in San Jose

        • volodya December 5, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

          Common sense-non-delusional maternal guidance probably helped.

        • capt spaulding December 5, 2017 at 2:16 pm #

          You should be pleased that he didn’t want to be Wonder Woman.

    • volodya December 5, 2017 at 2:35 pm #

      Progressives try to claim this is progress. What a joke.

    • K-Dog December 5, 2017 at 4:15 pm #

      Appalled with you. I have always tolerated gay people as long as they keep their aggression to themselves but the truth for most is that it is an abberation they wish to foist on others. Hence gay pride. Gay pride actually being an avocation to the one true sexual identity, in their mind, theirs. Many gay people claim they have been that way all their lives and their sexual orientation has nothing to do with the fact that they had a dick shoved up their ass when they were 9 years old. Some, a smaller minority who are authenticicly gay seem to have been born that way yes.

      Children before puberty are not that sexual. There should be no reason any identity should be forced on them and being made up by a drag queen could confuse children. What happened in SF is abusive.

      A lot of what passes as different sexual identities is actually the effect of arrested sexual development. Frozen in immaturity by trauma.

      Currently the hysteria about being groped in the workplace is all about men abusing power. Yes they are abusing power but these men are in no way normal yet nobody pays any attention to that fact. They are considered normal and making bad choices or choosing to be an asshole deliberately. The idea that they might be twisted is ignored because they are rich. The ones making the news are anyway.

      Yes they are assholes but nobody seems to be apprehending the situation right. Because of this misapprehension solutions will not be found.

      • GreenAlba December 5, 2017 at 5:20 pm #

        @K-Dog

        I hope you don’t mind me making one comment, in good faith, mostly because I’m impressed that you are taking a more gracious view than many on this topic.

        I have had several gay colleagues – quiet, unassuming and very nice professional men, half of whom I hadn’t even picked up on as gay for a considerable time until I discovered through conversation that they had a long-term partner.

        More recently, I have a nephew of 21 or 22 who is gay. He’s a delightful young man and you possibly wouldn’t even guess because he doesn’t talk about it – but isn’t ashamed of what nature made him either. He comes from a loving family, has two sisters and a very macho older brother! I don’t see them often as they’re far away, but when he was about 16 I had a flash of insight just with the relaxed way he was affectionate with his mother and his gentle demeanor. It may be a cliché but gay men are often very close to their mums.

        At that moment – and without thinking about it again – I thought ‘you know, I wouldn’t be surprised…’. Anyway, many years later my brother phoned, to kind of tell me in a roundabout way what the situation was. Basically they’d been talking about it among themselves (he was at university at this point) and they were surmising. No-one had ever asked him – like I said they’re just a loving, accepting family (and nothing traumatic, as you describe, has ever happened to him).

        Anyway, one of his sisters said ‘this is ridiculous – I’m going to ask him’. So she sent him a text and the reply came back ‘I just assumed everyone knew’.

        So that’s it. No drama, no demonstrations, just a lovely young man not born to be the same as the rest of his family.

        I don’t have an agenda, K-Dog, I’m just putting it out there as our reality. We’re kind of glad that our mother isn’t still here, because she was very religious and wouldn’t have taken it well. And yet, I expect, given time, that she’d have come round, as people do when they love their family.

        If this gets a load of unpleasant replies about pervs or whatever, so be it.

        On the abusing of power I totally agree with you. I have no experience, even vicarious, of this, because I maintain that very few men behave like this. Power corrupts – we know this – and it takes a strong character to be powerful and not abuse that privilege. I also had an attractive female colleague who admitted that in her younger days she’d slept with several of the husbands of her own female friends, just because it was easy for her. That’s about power corrupting too, in my view.

        • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 5:28 pm #

          There’s the Green One. Welcome back!

          • GreenAlba December 5, 2017 at 5:34 pm #

            Hello Scratch. Just dropping by very briefly between bouts of watching Newsnight with the ol’ fella. Well, I’ve been following the comments out of interest, but keeping out the fray 🙂

            Good wishes.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2017 at 11:15 pm #

          For a boy to identify with his mother – what a tragic miscarriage of natural law leading directly to greater sins and corruptions! But of course you think it’s fine if not “great”….

          In other new:

          amren.com/news/2017/12/sweden-data-breach-82-per-cent-people-sent-prison-gang-rape-foreign-born/

          All real news now is based on stolen data. Now you know the truth and you’ll have to change your worldview – or curdle and twist yourself even more out of shape.

          • GreenAlba December 6, 2017 at 7:06 am #

            @Janos

            How did I ever guess it would be you?

            From what I said you conclude my nephew ‘identifies with his mother’ despite that being nothing to do with what I said. He’s just as close to his dad. Sorry you aren’t familiar with how loving families function. Maybe that’s the origin of your obsessions.

            You read what you want to into things. Your insults have no interest for me. I have work to do. Have a good day.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 3:21 pm #

            Are Men and Muslims synonymous? So why the vast increase in rape since the Muslim invasion?

        • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 1:29 am #

          How can I mind a comment when you are impressed with my gracious view.

          I work with some unassuming gays and am friendly with them. It took a while until I discovered through conversations like you did that they had long-term partners or had had them in the past. The significant thing is that their gayness is kept in bounds and has never been inflicted on me. These are not men who I’d expect to be hanging out at public bathrooms trying to make a hookup and bothering straight people. These are men I can actually trust. Respectful men.

          The flip side of what for this comment I’ll call normal gayness, is a gayness which in contrast does not live and lets live. It is a bad gayness that does not respect boundaries. It is a gayness born in maladjustment and pain. It is a gayness that calls straight people ‘breeders’ in an expression of disgust.

          I do not think that gays should stay in the closet but they need to live in their own house and respect differences. The fact is gays are not discriminated against in contemporary America and I suspect gays actually have a higher percentage of employment than the general population. Gays can live and work anywhere and I have not been aware of any significant discrimination against them for a long time. The interesting thing is that when they do get into positions of power they actually discriminate and hire their friends over a more qualified straight applicant. I have seen this happen several times.

          I don’t know what is inside someone’s head so I can’t tell others how they should live but I can give and I can demand respect.

          I’m recalling an incident that happened years ago that expresses what I am trying to get across. This incident involved a lesbian and lesbians in general are not as hostile as some gay men are. Yet lesbians who are hostile are are right out with it since they don’t have to fear a beat-down for being rude and aggressive.

          The situation is simple. It was a warm early evening in summer and I was riding in a car with Mrs. Dog. We stopped at an intersection where a short-haired butch lesbian was waiting for the light to change. I was looking in the direction of this butch but I was looking at the new buildings behind her and not looking at her at all. This butch seeing me in the car looking out the window in her direction however thought I was looking at her and screamed out at me.

          What the fuck you looking at asshole!

          Besides being pissed I had a moment of fear. Mrs. Dog has been known to hit me up on the side of the head when she has thought I was checking out another woman and I have learned to keep my eyes to myself whenever I am with her. I turned to look at her and she looked at me and said:

          What the fuck is her problem, you were not even looking at her.

          With that the light turned from red to green and I relaxed. As we drove away I pondered the thought that these are my eyes and I have a right to look at whatever I want to.

          • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 1:40 am #

            I really did not notice the butch until she screamed at me and she was not much to look at. Had she been a hot lipstick lesbian the side of my head might not have been so fortunate.

          • GreenAlba December 6, 2017 at 7:25 am #

            Haha! Yes, people like that are an annoyance. Although ‘wot-choo-lookin-at?’ where I come from can also be a preliminary to a young lad or lads minding their own business but being set upon by other young lads (all heterosexual) just out for some GBH (‘grievous bodily harm’ in our legal system).

            But again, thanks for the gracious comment. And good for Mrs Dog (on all counts!).

  48. Pucker December 5, 2017 at 6:20 pm #

    How come people don’t have quick-draw gun fights anymore like in the “Wild West”?

    • elysianfield December 5, 2017 at 6:49 pm #

      How come…really?

      Who says they ever did?

      • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2017 at 11:15 pm #

        Didn’t they?

        • elysianfield December 6, 2017 at 12:01 pm #

          Janos,
          Mostly shot with rifles or shotguns and often in the back. Honorable contests, especially in matters existential, are the stuff of Hollywood and comic books…I mean graphic novels.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 3:03 pm #

            Yes, no doubt since the Old West was a peasant/pirate culture. Only Gentleman duel. Also their way of life, often involving incredible isolation and certainly a lack of women and family, lead to great imbalance and mental illness – and those to violence when the codgers finally got into town to blow their wages.

    • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 1:43 am #

      Because you can’t learn to fast-draw in a You-Tube video.

  49. FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2017 at 8:00 pm #

    You and I should change places== Ol’ Scratch

    You have a nice house and attractive spouse?

    • Ol' Scratch December 5, 2017 at 8:10 pm #

      No, sorry. Just a j-o-b at a place you might like with lots of opportunity for a theoretical type. Eggheads everywhere! But I’ll let you keep the attractive spouse if you have one and just take the nice house. Don’t really care for the Caribbean, but I think I could adapt.

      • akmofo December 6, 2017 at 12:04 pm #

        They’re not only attractive, but Russian girls can cook! As can Jamaican girls, btw. So not all is lost.

        • Ol' Scratch December 6, 2017 at 8:05 pm #

          Sounds great! Sign me up!

          • akmofo December 7, 2017 at 6:20 am #

            Simple.
            Head over to the local Iberostar at Rose Hall, Montego Bay. There you can luxuriously sample the local food, local drinks, local girls, and smoke the local sacred plant. Yah mahn!

    • akmofo December 6, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

      Mountain Finc, is that you?

      youtu.be/nCLWqR-RrSs

      World’s largest sailing yacht visits Haifa!

  50. FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2017 at 8:26 pm #

    Why conspiracy theories?

    For the past 300 years, the powerful of this world, on the bitter experience of the “color” revolutions, which did not go the way they wanted, were convinced that after the invention of printing, the information distribution can not be controlled and controlled chaos constantly turns into just chaos, the usual way out of which is only one – the traditional society.

    And, refusing direct control, they had to invent other ways of political control.

    And conspiracy theories took an honorable place in it. Their essence lies in the fact that if manipulation becomes obvious, then 3000 theories are instantly invented and published in anticipation, exposing these manipulations in the most distorted, delusional version, and the publication of the truth by association instantly turns out on the bookshelf under the title “Total fucking nonsense” .

    • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 3:31 am #

      When people refuse to talk about the obvious you can know that the obvious is the important thing.

      • akmofo December 6, 2017 at 12:25 pm #

        Yeah, but who provides a talking points? Why is this not obvious?

        Why is the media’s hair on fire about Trump’s recent Jerusalem recognition, but not the earlier Vatican recognition of “Palestine”? Why is it when I point out such things, it is as though they don’t exist. Like a tree falling in the forest with no one there to hear and see the event, it never happened.

        That’s the power of making yourself and your machinations invisible. Which is exactly what the Vatican did with the help of the Jesuits.

        • beantownbill. December 6, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

          Obviously there’s a to-do about the recognition because the MSM knows that Israeli’s are murderers, land-stealers, and treat the poor Palestinians very badly., and Jerusalem belongs to them, not the Israelis. And they are Jews, the worst of their many sins.

          What a bunch of shit the world is.

          • akmofo December 6, 2017 at 5:09 pm #

            It’s ok, Bill, we learnt to tune them off. It’s easy:

            youtu.be/WCWi2L3qS6o

            Regards from Haifa 🙂

  51. Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2017 at 11:53 pm #

    Prof. Duchesne makes three criticisms of Prof. Kymlicka’s position. First, it completely ignores the ethnic British identity of the Canadian majority. Prof. Kymlicka has nothing positive to say about the British who founded Canada. Unlike racial and religious minorities, in his system, they are not meant to enjoy any ethnic identity, but only a thinner, civic type of identity.

    The English societal culture is portrayed as a deracinated, neutralized sphere consisting of modern conveniences—economic, educational, and social institutions—intended “in principle” to serve anyone regardless of cultural background. Anglo-Canadians are mere possessors of individual rights, whereas every other ethnic group enjoys both individual and group rights.

    Of course, Prof. Kymlicka is aware that some Euro-Canadians are still attached to their ethnic identity and not satisfied with a merely civic identity. He refers to such people as “racists” and “xenophobes,” and recommends combining the cultural accommodation of racial minorities with punishment for such whites. Prof. Kymlicka never tries to defend this double standard; he presents it as natural and uncontroversial.

    Prof. Duchesne also criticizes Prof. Kymlicka for assuming that majority ethno-cultural rights inherently contradict liberal principles. He points out that the European nation states that developed the strongest liberal traits—including Britain, France, Scandinavia, the Low Countries, and Italy—were relatively homogeneous, while multinational empires such as Austria-Hungary remained “enraptured by illiberal forms of ethnic nationalism and intense rivalries over identities and political boundaries.” The multicultural experiment is not a consequence of liberalism, but a serious threat to it.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2017 at 11:56 pm #

      The complete expose of Elrond’s nightmare

      amren.com/features/2017/12/canada-abolishes-itself/

      • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 3:57 am #

        Actually Duchesne deserves no respect and is only a crafty racist who substitutes the term ‘western culture’ for ‘white’. He is stuck on himself and glorifies western civilization ignoring the contributions and even the existence of other civilizations. Asserting that whites built Canada and thus have a right to it ignores the fact it was previously owned. Which it was.

        Narcissism masquerading as white pride yet again.

        The idea of Western Civilization being superior is a piss in the wind. Western Civilization has destroyed the world and has left it with no future. Western civilization has been the poorest steward of the earth the world has ever seen.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 4:28 am #

          We have made the World the World. You need to emigrate to Africa like Anglin, though for different reasons. You don’t like your own Culture, Nation, and People, so why stay? Canada is White or it is just another 3rd World shithole. People are streaming in to get the gibs Whites have created. They aren’t conflicted and confused like you.

          • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 9:59 am #

            What? Now you claim to be the deity now. “We have made the World the World.” Did you do it is seven days?

            Or are you just admitting that those who you worship have made the world the world it is with no resources for future generations. That it is whites who have made the world into a ‘shithole’ from which there is no return. A world with no second chances for anybody.

            Don’t tell me what I like or dislike.You don’t know what I like or dislike, you don’t know me. That you can’t reign you ignorance in is not my problem hater. This is the problem with trolls. They get a surveillance report and think they know everything.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 4:38 am #

          In other words, Whites have no collective rights – unlike everyone else. They only are grudgingly to be granted individual rights, for now at least. I doubt that will last when the minorities actually take overt though. Imagine the process of breaking down and the building up that went in to implanting a racial death wish into so many folks like Kdog.

          • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 10:08 am #

            Whites have the same rights as everyone else. A typical racist ploy. Make circular self-defining statements which sound like they carry weight but actually mean nothing at all. A lie is always embedded in such statements to make that part which they wish to have an air of respectability seem true.

            Whites have no collective rights – unlike everyone else. <— THIS IS FALSE.

            A false premise from which no truth can be extracted.

          • elysianfield December 6, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

            ” They only are grudgingly to be granted individual rights, for now at least. I doubt that will last when the minorities actually take over ”

            Janos,
            Your premise is recoculous…history is replete with examples that absolutely parallel our upcoming situation and can now, be studied in real time…Rhodesia, South Africa…Zimbabwe.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 3:05 pm #

            No Cum Licker explicitly says that Whites don’t have collective rights since that is “raciss”. Other peoples can have collective rights because they’re not racists.

            This is what passes for thinking among your set.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 6, 2017 at 3:56 pm #

            Such lovely rhetoric, Janos. Mind if I submit that to Reader’s Digest?

            It’s always tempting to try to debate Janos, but you’ll end up with a tire fire every time. I’m not normally a troll, honestly I’m not, but he brings it out in me. On the one hand you have my respect for free speech, including Janos’ free speech (a principle that fascists abuse with vicious glee). On the other you have his world view.

            I’m only human. My fathomless contempt for his every word and deed needs an outlet. And to give him his due, he earns it day after day after day.

          • 100th Avatar December 6, 2017 at 4:59 pm #

            Crude. If someone was annoyed with your other posts but rather passive-aggressively edited this one, well, I couldn’t be counted amongst the surprised.

          • elysianfield December 6, 2017 at 6:54 pm #

            Janos,
            Do not my examples support your argument? The examples I mentioned evidence little respect for the collective rights of whites, or of any other racial group, for that matter.

            Regards the “cum licking”…I was young and needed the money, and they guy said he loved me….

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 7:08 pm #

            So I was right, Elrond, he is your idol. And I’m also right that Duchesne eviscerates him. What could you say? You have a hateful double standard against the White Race. No doubt it’s profitable for you in all kinds of ways, eh? Pecuniary not excluded….

        • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 4:30 pm #

          Western Culture does mean White. What’s wrong with that? It’s ok to be White, kdog.

  52. FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2017 at 1:30 am #

    EU to Trump: Serious repercussions if US recognizes Jerusalem == akmofo

    Let the battle for Jerusalem begin!

    Will United States join Russia in recognizing Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel? (Russia has recognized Jerusalem in April of this year unconditionally

    The underlying theme of this war is confrontation between the Abrahamic religions – Christianity (Orthodoxy + Church of England and its American Clones), Judaism and Islam against the gnosticism of the Fourth Reich – Catholicism and its European Protestant clones + Wahhabism of Saudi Arabia.

    • akmofo December 6, 2017 at 5:49 am #

      I don’t see it in terms of the lines you describe. It’s not about religion, Israel provides full SOVEREIGNTY to all religious sites, including Russian sites. Something few, if any, countries in the world do.

      And from what I hear, Saudia is basically on board with Trump’s latest move. They hold the KGB/CIA palistani creation in complete contempt, interestingly calling the lavishly sponsored “Palistanis” the sour cream people. But we shall soon see.

      Really, it’s simply about false Vatican propaganda machinations finally giving way to now half a century old reality on the ground.

  53. Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 4:34 am #

    Liberal mental illness on display by Cat Lady mayor at a town council meeting.

    westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/problem-and-solution/

    People who talk about “White Privilege” are crazy and dangerous. It simply has no real or legitimate meaning. As if those who scream it wouldn’t accept money they inherited or accept the winnings from a lottery ticket they had bought, or pick up a twenty on the street, etc. They want You to feel guilty so they can give away your tax money, rights, and heritage to aliens.

    Studies show Conservatives give far more in charity than Liberals do. The latter are simply pickpockets. Now I said charity, not campaign contributions, right? They may well “give” just as much or more on that score.

    • Ol' Scratch December 6, 2017 at 6:40 am #

      As usual, there’s at least a grain of truth in what you have to say. That’s why government redistribution efforts – likely the only means to save the current system – won’t work either.

      If the only question to be settled is who gets the spoils of US global hegemony – as it pretty much has already – then it inevitably just settles into a food fight between between various groups over who gets the biggest piece of the pie with quite predictable results.

      What very few notice while all that is going is, however, is that the pie itself is already shrinking precipitously, as a polity divided against itself in that manner ceases to be a coherent polity at all, but rather, just a roiling sea of special interests picking over the bones of the formerly great country that provided those spoils in the first place.

      That’s where the US is right now: a formerly proud, now pitiful, helpless giant being consumed from within by selfish special interest groups who, at some level, know that the ship is going down and that this is their last chance at grabbing some of the ill-gotten booty before it vanishes between the waves of history forever.

      In that light, blaming any one special interest group more than the others is ultimately pointless, although it should be noted at least, that the rich and powerful as a group exercise by far the most control over this system and are the only ones that truly have the power to change it from within.

      As you have presciently noted, though, this of course, they will never do, as they have the most to lose of all, and they’re certainly not stupid. And so it goes…

      • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 10:13 am #

        “blaming any one special interest group more than the others is ultimately pointless”

        It is not keeping your eye on the ball and making a fool of yourself. It betrays a weak mind that is easily swayed. In a land of fools however this is no big deal.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 3:19 pm #

        No, because everyone belongs to a “special interest group” by birth. Are you trying to forget race again? Whites are often willing to do this (in favor of their ideological tribe like Kdog does), but other races? Never. You still have much to learn since you are still projecting your own psyche onto races who are radically different.

        • Ol' Scratch December 6, 2017 at 8:00 pm #

          No, because everyone belongs to a “special interest group” by birth.

          Well, thanks for that revealing comment Janos. Very illuminating of how you really think, although silly me, I should have figured that out by now. So your basic world view is that the US at one time was and should in your opinion still be an apartheid nation? Very interesting in a puritanical sort of way. Obviously that’s never going to happen, as I’m sure you know, so I guess its primary appeal to you as a confessed frustrated idealist (possibly a current, former, or rejected member of the clergy?) is purely theoretical and possibly limited to the blogosphere?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 9:36 pm #

            Yes, how could you have forgotten race? Just because you don’t want any part of it doesn’t mean it doesn’t want a part of you. And of course America was built by and for Whites. Who else? Blacks were slaves. We could and should have done it without them. Now the arrogant fools think they did it, thanks to people like you puffing them up.

            A homogenous Nation can’t exist? Of course it can: it only makes them stronger. This guy thinks Japan is going to be the premier East Asian nation, not China. Too much diversity and income inequality in the latter. Don’t know if he’s right but it’s an interesting perspective. He says the Japanese have quietly build up one of the world’s strongest navies while still officially committed to non-aggression.

            youtube.com/watch?v=bxFSFWZmtZs

  54. wm5135 December 6, 2017 at 7:00 am #

    K-Dog, you seem to be comfortable standing close to the truth of reality, your comments of 12-5-17 are another indication of that part of your nature. I would ask everyone here to reflect for a moment, from the perspective of an adult human: did I have any physical sexual education before the age of ten years? My view is that upon a deep introspection a third of the populace will answer in the affirmative.

    There is more in the closet in Western culture than gay people. Even if a person is able to navigate into adulthood and has mitigated the effects of having a certain knowledge too early, there remains an influence in their life. When an society has at least a third of the population walkiing around with a secret that has colored their ability to be open and intimate there will be behavior that is not easily understood. A society that does not view the well being of children as sacred is eating the seed corn. (I do not mean the current regimen of caving into every whim of a child.)

    I differ in my view of repect. I can demand self respect of myself and armed with self-respect I am able to extend respect to those who have waged the same battle within themselves. When a human has developed a keen sense of respect for themselves and the creation they will be afforded respect. I care little for accolades from anyone who does not exhibit self-respect.
    Respectfully,
    wm

    • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 10:43 am #

      Thank You,

      I’m not sure about us differing in ideas of respect. Before you can have respect for others or demand respect from others you have to respect yourself. A man who does not respect himself does not spread happiness and instead spreads pain because they want to share what is ugly about themselves with the world.

      An interesting case is Janos. This ‘character’ has no self respect at all but were you to point that out to him he would be enraged. His whole identity is built on a false sense of self importance and he will defend this scaffolding of ignorance to his last breath. Only then in a rest of death can he have any peace. This has to be so for in his heart of hearts surly he must know the phoniness and emptiness that he clings to so desperately. Even Janos can’t be that stupid. Janos knows deep inside that his only true value is to show us what evil is. That must truly feel terrible so I can certainly understand not having the strength to face the truth when someone is as far gone as Janos is.

      In a different time and place a tortured mind such as Janoses would be ripe for a religious conversion and the peace that comes with it. Unfortunately Nietzsche took that possibility away from us. Unfortunate here because for Janos this would be an improvement. Such a conversion would give peace. A conversion gives strong purpose and people need purpose. A purpose far more palatable than spreading hate. A purpose so much more palatable than spreading hate that some people will die to cling to:

      “The peace which passes all understanding.”

      • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 3:12 pm #

        Not so. Part of being a healthy individual is belong to a group, family, clan, tribe, nation, etc. You and your Ideological Tribe are attacking my People and are seeking to outlaw our identity. How can we meet people of other races with our heads held high if our group is criminal? At least admit you all aren’t doing to other groups what you are doing to Whites. Can you have that much self knowledge, and honesty both to yourself and to us?

        Is Black self love hatred? Brown? Yellow? So why is White self love hatred? Your confusion is born of hatred against your biological tribe in favor of your demented ideological tribe. Unless and until you can overcome this, you are essentially an Antifa since that is their essence as well.

        • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 3:32 pm #

          You have no people. You are a legend in your own mind. We disown you.

        • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 3:32 pm #

          You have no people. You are a legend in your own mind. We disown you.

          • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 4:28 pm #

            Wierd. My comment got double posted and then I was locked out. I closed and opened my browser and was still locked out. I had to switch computers to post this.

            Have I disturbed the force? If so it won’t be the first time.

            Claiming he is part of a tribe shoots himself in the foot. Janos is part of a tribe the same way felons are. They have something in common but that’s all that gives them a common identity. Going with the idea of majority rule the majority of all tribes in particular the white tribe have chosen the way of tolerance. Janos not subscribing to tolerance as he does goes against the common grain. Janos has no business claiming he stands with any majority. Janos is a member of a group of misfits who being unsuccessful in life seek to blame others for their own bad choices. Hate hate hate, for years that is all Janos has given us and never in all that time has he ever intimated any personal success or accomplishment. I can only conclude he is not proud of anything and that he embraces racism because that is the only identity he has.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 4:34 pm #

            Do you think I made you double post it too? The rest of your spiel is classic Antifa blathering to the effect that Whites are uniquely evil and need to be destroyed or at least blended out of existence. But you people never make similar condemnations of other races, nor calls for their genocide. You need to stop projecting and look at the monster in the mirror.

          • 100th Avatar December 6, 2017 at 4:54 pm #

            Uh, so, you’re like telling a white dude to, like look into a mirror… to see a monster? Uh, does that like, support his, uh, like point and stuff?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 7:06 pm #

            Like, Uh, No, Duh. Where did I ever say individual Whites couldn’t be monsters? That’s very different than tarring all of us as people like Kdog and Elrond do.

          • 100th Avatar December 6, 2017 at 8:34 pm #

            Oh, uh, ‘k… cool… so, does that like mean you’ll stop projecting your like perceptions of behavior of a few blacks, browns, jews, and women on like all of them? Or, uh, are you like gonna still complain about likes, what is it like.. 80% of the global like population? When you’re hammered, and like, you want to nail the world and stuff, like right?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 9:29 pm #

            So you “think” all groups are the same? Is that the big idea? And all individuals within a group too as per your last post? And you think you understand Darwin too, right?

            Can you observe yourself at all? It’s an art. Watch yourself pick tomatoes in the store, carefully noting their complexion, shape and size, and probing them for ripeness. When you can pay as much attention to tomatoes as you can to people, we’ll talk again.

          • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 10:53 pm #

            You are not ‘people’. You are a lone lying sack of shit.

            “Tarring all of us as people like Kdog and Elrond do.”

            Only you Janos only you, and your condescending dimwit friends at ‘amren’.

            A fringe minority is not “all of us”. I’ve noticed you have difficulty conceptualizing quantities several times before this. Perhaps you have inferior genes.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2017 at 9:12 pm #

            As surely as the sun rises in the east, Liberals always get nasty when they lose arguments.

  55. wm5135 December 6, 2017 at 7:01 am #

    “walkiing” – walking

  56. FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2017 at 8:48 am #

    IOC Nails Russian Athletes

    ic.pics.livejournal.com/sasha_portland/16992771/46570/46570_600.jpg

    • Ol' Scratch December 6, 2017 at 9:36 am #

      LOL! Listening to Dan Patrick rail about it now. Likely all US sponsored propaganda.

      • FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2017 at 9:45 am #

        No, that’s the City – the HQ of East India company.

        • Ol' Scratch December 6, 2017 at 10:58 am #

          Probably right. DC, NY, London, and Tel Aviv/Jerusalem. They’re all the same entity. One blob with many different heads and faces. Patrick sounded like he was doing an infomercial he was so into it. No doubt plenty of green in it for him.

  57. ..Captain America.. December 6, 2017 at 10:17 am #

    *************************
    …..so you think you’re an aristocrat??
    crap.
    That’s crap.
    …same as it ever was.
    As 2018 is to 1968.
    youtube.com/watch?v=0jxd3rfSXcs

    C
    A
    *************************

  58. pequiste December 6, 2017 at 10:42 am #

    Just when I thought the situation could not be more hysterical and hysteria-inducing, in the Cesspool on the Potomac; with a tax plan sure to warm the cockles of all Plutocrats and Corporations; resignation of disgraced dinosaur Democrat Conyers; Mueller hot on the heels of bagging another Trump administration operative; The Donald pulls a super stunt.

    He is scheduled to announce the official move of the U.S.A. embassy to Israel to Jerusalem with near global condemnation and warnings of the danger of violence and war that such a move could engender.

    dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5150649/Amid-warnings-Trump-forges-ahead-Jerusalem-capital.html

    That’s legerdemain of the highest order. Like a magician, he can instantaneously move the attention of the Earth from American domestic slapstick to International high drama.

    What a showman!

    • ..Captain America.. December 6, 2017 at 11:08 am #

      Oh yeah!!
      ….Nearly as entertaining as watching the old guard Hollywood elite properties burn in real time!!!
      Pass the popcorn.
      I see your hair is burning…..

      C
      A

      • pequiste December 6, 2017 at 12:29 pm #

        Have to admit the D.C. burlesque can be most enjoyable and satisfying to watch:

        startribune.com/

        Al Franken will get to step down in disgrace whether he likes it or not with now seven, count ’em seven, Democrat female senators calling for his resignation. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving putz.

        • 100th Avatar December 6, 2017 at 4:52 pm #

          I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and doggone it senators grope me

      • pequiste December 6, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

        Did you see the story about the Lesbian rape by a member of the TeeVee show “The Voice?”

        newsweek.com/melanie-martinez-timothy-heller-rape-735686

        Hollywood is almost self-immolating in its quest to best Washington D.C. and Wall Street as the most corrupt, slimiest, scuzziest place in the U.S.S.A.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 3:15 pm #

          It’s not enough that they rape underage boys, now they are raping other women! It’s time for White Shariah, friends. Just for Muslims. No frends, study early Greece and Rome. Cato the Elder has just reincarnated and will lead us to victory in 2050.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2017 at 12:07 pm #

      I am sure it is a sign of gratitude for the role that Israeli intelligence played in suppressing the Black Project coup last Friday.

      Israelis have their intelligence agents penetrated the Black Project since early 1950s when they were actively hunted for Nazi criminals.

  59. Ol' Scratch December 6, 2017 at 11:14 am #

    The single best synopsis of our immediate economic problem I’ve ever read:

    Monetary Mental Illness

    It is literally painful to watch our political leaders’ efforts to rethink and restructure how we are going levy taxes on ourselves as a collective society. It is like watching a family member struggling with mental illness: the demons being wrestled with are imaginary—yet they have the palpable force somehow of a granite wall. And as the struggle with this palpable monolith unfolds, even we—the clear observers of reality—forget that it is imaginary; when we do remember, the pain becomes excruciating for the simple reason that we know it is completely unnecessary.

    Why does our political system choose to believe and struggle with the imaginary constraint that taxes must pay for sovereign spending? How can we explain to ourselves, in the face of this rock-solid demon, that the simple logic of fiat money demonstrates that sovereign spending must occur first, with taxes collected after? How can we reassure our terrified and confused representatives in congress that if our sovereign government collects back fewer dollars than it issues and spends, the difference is not our collective “debt”—it is, in fact, our collective savings? But the demon will not allow us these explanations.

    As is the case with every mental illness, the cruelest aspect to observe is how vulnerable our delusion is to being manipulated and taken advantage of by those who are self-serving and greedy. We actually believe the rich fat-cat when he tells us that if we choose to make him richer we, the poor strugglers, will be better off! How, we are told, can the rich fat-cat give us a new job if he is not made richer and fatter? We cannot, after all, give ourselves jobs—can we? Our sovereign government—which we cannot seem to understand represents our collective selves—can (and must) issue and spend fiat-currency. True! But that currency (our demons are whispering) cannot be spent by our collective selves to pay our individual selves wages to accomplish useful things for our families and local communities. The currency, instead (whisper, whisper) must be spent to fatten the fat-cat so that he can pay us wages to accomplish useful things for him. The pain of this logic makes you numb.

    Finally, our prognosis is greatly diminished by the fact that there are influential people—leaders—who know very well that we are delusional, that taxes do not pay for federal spending, that our fiat-money deficit is not a “debt” that we owe to anyone, that fattening the profits of global corporations neither creates meaningful jobs or causes anything useful to be accomplished for our local communities. They know all these things, yet they are required (by what?) to remain silent or, at the very least, dissembling in their objections. They cannot come straight out and say, “Look here, this tax and deficit calculation is sheer nonsense. It is delusional gobbledygook! The sovereign government has to issue and spend its fiat money before it can collect it back in taxes. And that issuing and spending of fiat money is precisely how the sovereign government can pay us to accomplish everything we agree needs to be collectively accomplished.” The fat-cat needs to be put in his place. He just gets one vote, like all the rest of us. He doesn’t get to run the whole show. Unless we let him. Which we surely will as long as we suffer our monetary mental illness.

    nakedcapitalism.com/2017/12/monetary-mental-illness.html

  60. FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2017 at 11:58 am #

    Recalling the 1980 Olympics and the 2014 Olympics, I personally came to the conclusion that the Olympic Games are some kind of a sacred ritual for the Western Black Project, and any attempt by Orthodox Russia to host the Olympic Games on its territory is perceived by its adherents as blasphemy.

    Therefore, Russia certainly can continue its attempts to hold the Olympic Games, but every time after making this decision, it must begin preparing for war. These are the unwritten rules of the Olympic Games and I think that the apology that Russia brought to the IOC after the exemplary flogging is connected with this, and do not have anything to do with doping.

    And I think that Vladimir Putin has reached a similar conclusion. That is why the response to the decision of the IOC was his decision to run for a fourth term, after the true meaning of the proposal to become the president of the IOC became clear yesterday.

    All the current Olympic rituals and ceremonies were staged in the 30s of the 20th century in the Third Reich.

    The modern Olympic Games are the brainchild of Pierre de Coubertin personally, a descendant of an ancient noble family.

    From the chronicles it is known that the ancestor of Coubertin, the knight Mervil took part in the Anti-Christian Fourth Crusade. After returning, the Mervil erected a magnificent castle in Normandy and acquired estates in France and Italy – in the nineteenth century, it was with money from the sale of this properties that a new Olympic movement has surfaced.

    After his resignation as president of the International Olympic Committee, Coubertin was appointed his lifelong honorary president and did his best to ensure that the 1936 Olympics, despite numerous protests and attempts to transfer it to another country or boycott, was held in Nazi Germany under the Goebbels scenario under personal leadership of Hitler.

    • akmofo December 6, 2017 at 12:47 pm #

      I noticed a definite pattern of economic destruction shortly following for those countries hosting the Olympic games or winning large quantities of medals in these games.

      Mountain Finc, as you correctly elucidated these games are a harbinger of evil.

  61. capt spaulding December 6, 2017 at 2:40 pm #

    Just got back from McDonalds. They have a new burger, called a Big McMoore. It’s 30 year old meat between 14 year old buns. Order it Alabama style.

    • PeteAtomic December 6, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

      ha ha
      that’s a good one

  62. volodya December 6, 2017 at 3:18 pm #

    What now? Trump just announced the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capitol city.

    What else? Nothing really. While the malarial swamp on the Potomac and their media allies are busy with nonsense about Russian interference, nobody asks about Chinese owned companies in the US putting money into American politics ie Chinese interference. Nor do they bother about Israeli influence. It couldn’t be intentional could it?

    • beantownbill. December 6, 2017 at 4:20 pm #

      Influence doesn’t necessarily equal interference.

      • Ol' Scratch December 6, 2017 at 7:44 pm #

        Correct. It’s more influential.

  63. volodya December 6, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

    Can’t remember who said this: Mohammed Bin Salman, aka MBS = Mabus?

    Wouldn’t that be something?

    • 100th Avatar December 6, 2017 at 4:45 pm #

      I did.

      He is MaBuS

      in waiting

  64. 100th Avatar December 6, 2017 at 4:44 pm #

    foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/06/john-stossel-why-hate-new-york-times.html

    Then he closes with this inanity:

    “I’ll keep reading it, hoping to separate the good from the bad.”

    Until the readers abandon it, they won’t reform, or go away.

    • pequiste December 7, 2017 at 12:21 am #

      John Stossel hates it, but as a media elite living in NYC he is compelled to read it to understand his neighbors?

      That would be exactly the excuse of a doosh-bag.

      The Grey Lady is never to be reformed – she is a flagship presstitute platform of the Evil Fuckers.

      I would not expose my parakeet to it for use as cage target practice.

  65. Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 4:47 pm #

    Former Congresswoman of the great state of Flarda just sentenced to five years in prison for setting up a fake charity for children. Here’s a good sample of her trying to speak English, complete with subtitles. Call it Kdog equality. This is the mercy of a rude stream that enters into the mighty rives Janos. True charity submits to truth, be it howsoever rough. Only then can you attain the Shining Sea and the Peace that passeth understanding. In contrast, the river Kdog diminishes and ends in a fetid swamp.

    barnhardt.biz/2017/12/04/lata-go-gata/

    • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 11:18 pm #

      Your link goes nowhere and Corrine Brown has nothing to do with me.

  66. rapier December 6, 2017 at 5:02 pm #

    I got into this alt economics game, and essentially, mostly, a racket, with some very hard truths attached, a long time ago. Say 2001. The one and true rule in the alt economics game is that in the end 80%, at least, of those who make a living from the Alt Economics Racket are of the right and when push comes to shove will align with the fascists.

    So here you are.

    • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2017 at 6:08 am #

      alt economics?

      • rapier December 7, 2017 at 7:59 am #

        Standard economics proceeds on the assumption that growth of the GDP kind is inevitable, because markets, or something like that. As opposed to JHK’s alt economics themes of energy and environmental limits and the limits of debt.

        These are important ideas but they don’t pay. Nobody who is anybody wants to hear them. Yes even liberals and in fact especially ‘liberals’ now. So JHK had done what most of those who plow this field of skepticism of modern centralized industrial society do. They stoke resentment against liberals, because that pays.

  67. Pucker December 6, 2017 at 5:36 pm #

    Happy Pearl Harbor Day!

  68. Pucker December 6, 2017 at 5:50 pm #

    Was the book “Jonathan Livingston Seagull” a Feminist book tempting young American girls to explore their sexuality? I read that book as a young kid in the early 1970’s at the prompting of a girl in the “Unitarian Church”. She may have wanted me to fuck her?

    • elysianfield December 6, 2017 at 7:08 pm #

      Puck,
      Remind me not to offer you any reading lists….

    • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 7:16 pm #

      They made a movie of it apparently. The woman was throwing the gull playing Jonathan into the air again and again trying to get the scene right. Finally she killed it by accident. She said she felt its spirit enter into her….

      I never saw the movie but read the book. That is a bond between us.

      • Ol' Scratch December 6, 2017 at 8:28 pm #

        Lol!

        She felt something “enter her” alright, although it was a little bit more substantial than just “spirit.” Shortly thereafter, her head spun 360′ on her neck and she projectile vomited pea soup while maturbating with a crucifix and screaming at her mother to “Lick me.” The producers were so impressed by that part that they cut it out of the original movie and spun it off into one of its own, which as luck would have it, made the young actress famous and able to fuck Rick Springfield, another flash in the pan soap opera actor/pop music star of the time, until they inevitably got tired of each other and spiraled into drug and alcohol abuse before hitting rock bottom years later, going to celebrity rehab on somebody else’s dime, writing a tell all book, and selling the movie/TV rights to begin the cycle all over again!

        And now…

        you know…

        the rest…

        of the…

        STORY!

        • Pucker December 6, 2017 at 9:05 pm #

          The mother of the young girl at church who gave me the book was probably a Big Feminist who succeeded in ruining her own Life and her daughter’s Life?

          • Pucker December 7, 2017 at 2:01 am #

            She wanted to spread her wings, spread eagle? I was only 10 years old. Her mother must have given her that book?

          • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2017 at 6:07 am #

            I was just fuckin’ around. That’ was just a riff on The Exorcist’s script.

  69. FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2017 at 7:46 pm #

    Russia will have to reconsider their friends list in the United States.

    Not just democrats, but so called “people of good will” considered to be “friends” by the Soviet Union, black activists and jazz musicians are supporting Putin haters and Hillary’s warmongers now.

    • 100th Avatar December 6, 2017 at 8:37 pm #

      there are still black jazz musicians? cool #jazzed

  70. Kawika December 6, 2017 at 10:05 pm #

    I agree with everything JHK says in the article, but I wonder if it isn’t for the best in the long run that things play out as they are (notwithstanding the chance of nuclear war with Russia that a deep state coup entails).
    Thinking in terms of JHK’s Long Emergency, the inevitable result of any political development in the US will be the breakup of the nation into at least 50, likely many more component parts. This would be the best possible outcome for those people who call themselves Americans, and more importantly for the people in the world (over 95% at last count) who do not. The bottom line is that the hypercomplex petrochemical society most of us live in is not sustainable, even in the short run, and that is what is ultimately causing these symptoms of political instability in the US and abroad. Fighting this is like pissing in the wind. Time to embrace instability…

    • K-Dog December 6, 2017 at 11:06 pm #

      The nation will not break up because it can’t break up into anything. The shattered pieces would be no more viable than the Union was as a whole and actually quite a bit less. Think about the retirement of leaders in future places like ‘New Cascadia’. An apt description is instantaneous. As in instantaneous death. Nobody would be able to lead the splintered chaos and survive were hard times to cause the nation to dissolve.

      Trolls frequently bring up succession. Succession will get you on a deep state list faster than anything else will.

      ‘Time to embrace instability… ‘

      what does that mean?

      • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 11:32 pm #

        Of the 58 reps who voted to impeach Trump, 65% were Non-White. It’s inevitable Dog. The real question is where Liberal Whites will go. We don’t want you. And the “minority majorities” in your cities won’t let you live in peace either. Hilariously enough, you trained them assiduously to hate you!

        How does the old saying go? A Conservative is a Liberal who has been mugged. Experience is a dear school, but a fool will have no other. Watch the old movie “The Village” about Liberals who learned from dear experience.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2017 at 11:32 pm #

          Link

          westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2017/12/06/warm-up-exercise/

          • K-Dog December 7, 2017 at 10:06 am #

            What do you care what color the reps are as long as due process is followed. Trump is not good for anything. If he is removed by legal means we are all better off.

            All Trump is good for is giving rich people more money. Trump was as shocked as everyone else when he won. Had he not been running against the bitch who murdered Qaddafi and who is also only good for giving rich people more money he would have lost.

            Janos has a large bag of groceries in front of his face and is not watching where he is going. He rounds a corner at something between a walk and a run and bumps into a black man. His groceries are spilled all over the sidewalk. Janos begins to pick up his groceries and the black man starts to help.

            Janos screams at him. Don’t help me you’re black!

          • GreenAlba December 7, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

            @KDog

            Totally on board with every word in your post about both Trump and Hillary. However, I’d worry that if Trump is impeached he and his base will spend the next 10 years trying to get revenge for having their hopes (however deluded) frustrated. And he’ll write books about What I Would Have Achieved If All The Crooked People Hadn’t Stopped Me and make more money on the lecture circuit than he has from building towers bereft of any smidgeon of taste.

            A large part of me things he has to be judged on what he actually achieves in a full term, to avoid endless repercussions.

            My caveat would be his ability to destabilise the world and lead us anywhere up to and including a third world war, if left to his own devices any longer.

          • GreenAlba December 7, 2017 at 1:01 pm #

            *thinks*, even…

          • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2017 at 9:14 pm #

            More likely the Black bumps into me intentionally and then steals groceries.

      • Kawika December 7, 2017 at 3:30 am #

        ‘Time to embrace instability… ‘

        I suppose I was subconsciously channeling JMG’s constant refrain:
        ‘Collapse now, and avoid the rush!’ For what that means, I would have to defer to the Archdruid himself.

        You have a good point about the US not being able to break up into anything. But that doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Reminds me of the apocryphal budget airline whose motto was ‘Don’t worry…we couldn’t possibly afford to crash!’

        • K-Dog December 7, 2017 at 10:13 am #

          His simplistic advice is amusing but it really does not help anybody.

          But that doesn’t mean it won’t happen.

          Yes you are absolutely right so I’ll be having nothing to do with the leadership of Cascadia upon succession. As things stand now I still think staying alive is the way to go.

          Thats right F.B.I., I’m no LaVoy Finicum so you can just leave me the fuck alone.

  71. ..Captain America.. December 6, 2017 at 10:12 pm #

    WHAT’S NEXT??

    …..why, that’s elementary, my dear Watson….

    What is that sound??
    …..the drumbeat of war and the ringing of cash registers.
    reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-statement/north-korea-says-u-s-threats-make-war-unavoidab…

    Should be great for stocks for those fortunate enough to invest AND reside outside the fire, blast, and fallout zones!
    However, tourism revenue and exports from South Korea may suffer a bit.

    C
    A

  72. Pucker December 7, 2017 at 12:57 am #

    “History tells us, that from the moment when the moral forces on which a civilisation rested have lost their strength, its final dissolution is brought about by those unconscious and brutal crowds known, justifiably enough, as barbarians. Civilisations as yet have only been created and directed by a small intellectual aristocracy, never by crowds. Crowds are only powerful for destruction. Their rule is always tantamount to a barbarian phase.”

    “The Crowd”, Gustave Le Bon

    • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2017 at 1:46 am #

      Shamefully betrayed from within and fiercely assailed from without. The enemy within is always the worst, controlling the mob and opening the gates to the barbarians without.

  73. Pucker December 7, 2017 at 1:45 am #

    Psychological Crowds are hives of moral sentiment. For example, race, identity politics, nationalism, The Mob.

    There is a Natural hierarchy in intelligence and culture, but not in matters of politics, race, religion, nationality, etc.

    “In the case of everything that belongs to the realm of sentiment—religion, politics, morality, the affections and antipathies, &c.—the most eminent men seldom surpass the standard of the most ordinary individuals. From the intellectual point of view an abyss may exist between a great mathematician and his boot maker, but from the point of view of character the difference difference is most often slight or non-existent. It is precisely these general qualities of character, governed by forces of which we are unconscious, and possessed by the majority of the normal individuals of a race in much the same degree—it is precisely these qualities, I say, that in crowds become common property. In the collective mind the intellectual aptitudes of the individuals, and in consequence their individuality, are weakened. The heterogeneous is swamped by the homogeneous, and the unconscious qualities obtain the upper hand. This very fact that crowds possess in common ordinary qualities explains why they can never accomplish acts demanding a high degree of intelligence.”

    “The Crowd”, Gustave Le Bon

    • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2017 at 6:01 am #

      Nice! When rationality and reason leave the room, as we’re seeing today, it’s survival of the fittest by whatever despicable means necessary once again.

  74. FincaInTheMountains December 7, 2017 at 2:47 am #

    The “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” contains a description of the worldwide Jewish-Masonic conspiracy, that began to spread in France in 1894 in connection with the Dreyfus affair, which somehow symbolized the beginning of the collapse of the secular, cultural assimilation of European Jews proclaimed by the Great French Revolution and Napoleon, not only in France, but also in Germany and throughout Europe, including Russia.

    The essence of this theory was that Jews, irrespective of their religious affiliation, do not assimilate, but become hidden enemies of any European state because of their genetic belonging to the aforementioned worldwide conspiracy. The primary source of this theory was the French military counterintelligence officer Major Jean Sandherr.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Sandherr

    But given the fact that the source of the Dreyfus charges was a handwritten note found in the garbage basket of the German Embassy in Paris, which strongly resembles Schellenberg’s fake against Marshal Tukhachevsky, and also that Dreyfus was charged with the crimes that were actually committed by Major Sandherr co-serviceman and part-time German spy Major Ferdinand Esterhazy, suggests that in this case the anti-Semitic card in French politics was deliberately played by the German intelligence.

    Especially piquant to these events is the fact that Ferdinand Esterhazy was the son of a general of the French army, commanding a division in the Crimean War and a descendant of an ancient Austro-Hungarian family, leading his ancestry from Attila himself.

    And this family, in the person of Nicholas Esterhazy, quite farsightedly rejected the Hungarian crown offered by Napoleon, preferring Talleyrand ‘s mediation to it, in preparation of which he allegedly took the most active part and which destroyed the monarchical system of Europe to a much greater extent than all the Zion Elders put together.

    The Jews, who at first enthusiastically accepted the program of cultural assimilation, were forced to realize the collapse of their plans and responded by proclaiming the program for building a secular Jewish state and the Napoleonic program of “Nation building” applied to the Jewish people, similar to the programs for the construction of the French and German nation in which they took an active part before the Dreyfus affair.

    Religious Jewish leaders reacted negatively to the program of cultural assimilation and to the program for the construction of secular Israel, which received the name “Zionism”, because in the first it meant the withdrawal of Jewish communities from under their authority, and secondly questioned the concept of Moshiach, which according to Judaism only can restore the state of Israel, and thirdly rejected the very concept of the expulsion of Jews from Israel by God.

    The supporters of Western European Jewish liberalism and socialism such as Theodor Herzl and Chaim Weizmann, and the nationalist Russian Jews such as Vladimir Zhabotinsky, initially took an active part in the Zionist movement, the latter fought, including with arms in hands, not for the creation of the state of Israel, but for the equality of Russian Jews in the Russian Empire.

    The Jewish religious figures still can not comprehend the fact that Israel was recreated, since this fact forces them to admit that either the expulsion of Jews from Israel ended and secular Jews, unlike the religious Jews, who in every possible way prevented it, felt it and, therefore, were blessed for the restoration of Israel by the Lord God, or that Israel is built against the will of God and therefore must be destroyed.

    It must be said that from the very fact of the existence of Israel, the brains melt not only among representatives of Judaism, but also among many Christians, since they put forward the same arguments against the existence of Israel as the orthodox Jews, as if they do not recognize that the Messiah has already come, and that from this point of view, there are no obstacles to the existence of Israel.

    It seems that they recognized “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” as inspired by God, proclaiming the Antichrist as the Jewish Moshiach.

    But this, if only because of the systematic religious education, seems to have been well understood by Joseph Stalin, who played a decisive role in the creation of the state of Israel.

    • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2017 at 5:56 am #

      So much talk of Gods and Messiahs! Judaism and Islam both the product of primitive sand people’s fevered imaginations, with Christianity merely being a state-sponsored late-blooming offshoot of the insanity, and all three of them used blatantly to justify rabid political agendas of various stripes the world over. And yet millions across the world still subscribe to all this malarkey “religiously,” albeit most of them hypocritically! And they say man is the most intelligent monkey? I think not Ol’ Finca, I think not!

      By the way, I’ve read the Protocols from cover to cover a time or two now, and whatever its source and whatever its agendas, hidden or otherwise, it pretty much exactly accounts for all the events of the 20th century and thus far in the 21st. That’s why it sets so many people’s hair on fire. It’s a virtual offensive playbook for the team/tribe that’s executing the Zionist strategy/protocols. Zionism is truly a ‘biblical plague” wherever it spreads, and it’s infested the US and all of the western nations now completely.

      • GreenAlba December 7, 2017 at 7:25 am #

        “Judaism and Islam both the product of primitive sand people’s fevered imaginations, with Christianity merely being a state-sponsored late-blooming offshoot of the insanity, and all three of them used blatantly to justify rabid political agendas of various stripes the world over.”

        Quite. And re the hypocrisy, it always amazes me that some people can take a religion whose ‘star’ (I won’t say ‘founder’, since it was really Paul that made Christianity what it became) specifically said ‘it is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle’ and ‘lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth’ and turn that into a rip-off motivational course called ‘God wants you to be rich’. It’s not just cherry-picking, it’s picking the cherry and turning it into a gooseberry.

        And with my fondness for some vintage American folk songs, I think I’ll suggest Tom Paxton’s ‘Forest Lawn’ in this context!

        • GreenAlba December 7, 2017 at 7:26 am #

          youtube.com/watch?v=lscVhf1w6Fo

          • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2017 at 11:19 am #

            Hey Greeny! See my link above to Eric Zeusse’s book. He lays out an exhaustive case that Paul pretty much fabricated the whole damn thing 50 years after the fact. Haven’t read the book yet, but it seems to align with a lot of similar theories put out there by a wide range of skeptics, many of them former or current biblical scholars. Totally agree with your points above.

          • GreenAlba December 7, 2017 at 1:28 pm #

            Thanks, Scratch – I’ll look into that.

            Some years ago (on my long and winding path to unbelieverdom) I read A.N. Wilson’s book, Jesus – His Life’:

            ‘https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jesus-His-Life-N-Wilson/dp/0393326330/ref=sr_1_15?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1512670632&sr=1-15&keywords=a+n+wilson

            …immediately followed by his sequel, ‘Paul – the Mind of the Apostle:

            amazon.co.uk/Paul-Mind-Apostle-N-Wilson/dp/071266663X/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&…

            That was some session, I can tell you, but it was actually fascinating. I’d read them both again.

            The key sentence in the blurb on the Amazon page is:

            “Jesus was no Christian, and his friends made no effort to break away from Jesus’s religion, Judaism. What we call Christianity began with a Jew from Eastern Turkey known to the world as Paul of Tarsus.”

            A.N. Wilson is an English author who used to be in the Anglican Church (or ‘the Tory Party at prayer’, as it is sometimes called!). He did his research and became an atheist. Then more recently he has ‘found God’ again and has written a smug book on Darwin that has annoyed a lot of people. But the Jesus and Paul books are an excellent read.

          • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2017 at 3:50 pm #

            Thanks! I will look into those too. This week has opened up a treasure trove of new topics to explore, especially with the holidays and some free time coming up!

        • K-Dog December 7, 2017 at 10:29 am #

          While I basically agree with the negative sentiments I have to ask the question. Even though the Christian rising from the dead, virgin birth malarkey is hard to take, it does keep weak minds in line. There are people who would have no moral rules if you took their religion away. Not everyone accepts the responsibility to determine a secular basis for a replacement morality and people too upset with true believers believing what they believe may actually not be far from being a true believer themselves.

          It is between a rock and a hard place. If all throwing away Christianity leads to is a scenario where anything goes and nothing matters, we are better off with the hocus-pocus.

          • ozone December 7, 2017 at 10:47 am #

            K-dog,
            I say to believers: Believe what you want to believe*, but by the same token, you’ll have to allow me to base my perception of your judgement upon your most closely held beliefs.

            *Caveat: As long as it doesn’t hurt me and mine; because then there will be real-world repercussions.

          • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2017 at 11:23 am #

            Even though the Christian rising from the dead, virgin birth malarkey is hard to take, it does keep weak minds in line. There are people who would have no moral rules if you took their religion away.

            That’s the rationale anyway. But I think we’re at the point now that belief probably does at least as much harm as good, so I – personally – find it increasingly hard to give such people a pass based on a silly and destructive primitive superstition. But I do appreciate that if you were to take it away suddenly, the resulting vacuum would need to be accounted and planned for proactively. Another subject for another day, that.

          • K-Dog December 7, 2017 at 11:43 am #

            You could be right scratch. We could have reached a point where drawbacks outweigh benefits.

            You could also be making the mistake of thinking that the general population is as smart as people who drop in here are. They are not though they are smarter than our trolls.

            I do not make this statement as a pompous ass and claim we are better. The reason for the difference is simple, we write, and a lot of people don’t. This makes us think, like it or not.

            We bifurcated.

          • GreenAlba December 7, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

            @K-Dog

            I’m very tolerant of Christianity in general, in its benign forms. I was brought up in it, stayed with it well into adulthood, and retain a lot of nostalgia for its beautiful parts, which I maintain it has. I just take those as being an attempt by humans to make sense of life and encourage the best in themselves/discourage the worst. Compared to earlier attempts, such as those involving ritualistic human sacrifice, just as an example, it wasn’t a bad attempt, based as it was, unusually, on the idea of love and putting others first. It forms the basis for our law, morality, and culture. Shakespeare wouldn’t be Shakespeare without the bible as a cultural reference.

            Those parts of it are ingrained parts of me, like attempting to be honest and not taking advantage of people. I have totally internalised the moral dimensions (those that I agree with, if you like) to the point where I’d be as viscerally ashamed of telling a deliberate lie now as when I thought God was watching me. I’m fine with that. And one of my daughters who has also left it behind says she’s glad she was sent to Sunday School nevertheless because of what it taught her, morally speaking.

            The less beautiful part, for me, was an underlying fear – and although neither my family nor my fairly enlightened church was into fire and brimstone, the idea of a scary place your misdeeds (in my case a divorce after an unhappy marriage) might send you never really went away.

            A year or two ago I read one of the late Joe Bageant’s books, where he devoted a chapter to the fear brought about by living in a family imbued with ideas of ‘the rapture’. He describes being utterly terrified one day by finding himself alone in the house and thinking his whole family had been spirited away and only he was left to deal with the horror of what was coming. That’s tantamount to child abuse, in my mind. And he says those brought up in that way, even when they leave the religion behind, as he did, can still summon up that dark chilling terror that other people don’t really understand. I get that too.

            But I totally take your point about the ‘anything goes’ possibility (although the massive crimes committed by those within the faith – or pretending to be within the faith – makes that less of an argument). The cathedrals of Europe were often built by kings who thought their efforts would appease the deity with reference to their murderous activities in the world outside the cathedral. And let’s not go near the Inquisition…

            The argument that the ‘little people’ need religion to keep them in line isn’t a new one, but I know you don’t mean it in the cynical way that it has been used by those with power (and little in the way of a conscience, secular or otherwise!).

            I am not nearly well read enough to be able to genuinely compare how people fare morally in countries where there is no history of a personalised religion, or very little, and those where there is none. But I totally believe in people’s rights to their beliefs, as long as they harm no-one else, even psychologically. And because I was brought up in it and still remember the ‘me’ who not that many years ago would have been the one feeling attacked by an aggressive atheism, I empathise more than most with those who believe what I no longer can.

            As for the empirical bit, the US is pretty much the most religious country there is in the modern West. The UK is, to quite a large extent, post religious (apart from the robustness of the communities that Janos would rail about and growth in the more happy clappy versions of Christianity, which you always get in uncertain times), despite having an established church, albeit with quite woolly theology. Considering just the ex-Christian agnostics and atheists, rather than the formerly religious of other persuasions, I really couldn’t say which of our countries fares better morally!

            Sorry, that’s a bit more of an answer than you probably wanted!

          • GreenAlba December 7, 2017 at 12:13 pm #

            *those where there is ‘one’, not ‘none*

          • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2017 at 2:17 pm #

            Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom. Just so in secular life, the stick or the fear of it, is often more effective than the carrot. Our own George Washington weighed in: Only highly educated people, strangely formed, can be good without religion.

            Our own educated and witty Scratch has already said the White Race should be genocided. I have no doubt he would feel the same about Christians as they tried to do in Communist Russia and China.

            You should know who you are keeping company with. Read the Black Book of Communist for a list of its appalling crimes.

          • GreenAlba December 7, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

            @Janos

            You must be the least Christian Christian-apologist on the planet. Obviously, if you want me to choose between a neo*-nazi/white supremacist and Francis of Assisi – or Dietrich Bonhoeffer, for balance – then my choice is self-evidently the properly Christian Francis and Dietrich, always and forever.

            *I have given you the benefit of the doubt allowing you the ‘neo-‘. But I remember you saying, disgracefully and shamelessly, that your country had fought on the wrong side in the war, so I realise you really don’t even deserve that ‘neo-‘.

            The Christian God you invoke would disown you.

            “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”

            You can safely extrapolate from that for internal consistency in the faith you shamelessly claim. I was brought up in the Christian faith. Even after moving beyond it, I will defend it from your opportunistic appropriation.

            But we are always here to welcome you back from the dark side. No-one is ever beyond redemption.

            “There’s a crack, a crack, in everything
            That’s how the light gets in…”

            Presumably even in the 7th circle of Hades where you have chosen to ‘live’.

          • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2017 at 3:47 pm #

            You are a master at debate O’Greeny! Well done indeed!

          • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2017 at 6:49 pm #

            There’s neither male nor female? So Christianity is in favor of the Tranny movement? Or did you assume “in Christ Jesus” means in this physical world? Or are you so blithely oblivious in your Ideological Supremacism that you never even noticed the contradiction?

          • K-Dog December 8, 2017 at 3:30 am #

            @GreenAlba

            “I’m very tolerant of Christianity in general, in its benign forms. I was brought up in it, stayed with it well into adulthood, and retain a lot of nostalgia for its beautiful parts, which I maintain it has. I just take those as being an attempt by humans to make sense of life and encourage the best in themselves/discourage the worst.”

            Matches me exactly. My father was the son of a minister and I have seen the good, the bad and the ugly myself. I personally rebelled against the fire and brimstone social programming when I was 12 years old because I knew that all of that was in contradiction to the message of a merciful god which I was also being beaten about the head with. It did not make any sense and I was also tested that year and found to have a greater scientific aptitude and knowledge than a high school graduate. That did not please my father. The demands of faith often demanded ignorance.

            Christianity was adopted by the Roman Empire because it preached monogamy. At the time it was adopted overpopulation was so bad across the Empire that unmarried teenagers caught having sex were stoned to death. Christianity was definitely an improvement.

            The most enlightened interpretations preach that our sole purpose in life is to love each other always seeking to bring happiness to others. That is what an imaginary old man in the sky would like to see. It is a nice story. Think about it. If he were up there nothing would make him happier. Watching us kill each other can only piss him off if you think about the investment he has put into this rock.

            Can’t get better than that.

          • GreenAlba December 8, 2017 at 12:22 pm #