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We are looking more and more like France on the eve of its revolution in 1789. Our classes are distributed differently, but the inequity is just as sharp. America’s “aristocracy,” once based strictly on bank accounts, acts increasingly hereditary as the vapid offspring and relations of “stars” (in politics, showbiz, business, and the arts) assert their prerogatives to fame, power, and riches — think the voters didn’t grok the sinister import of Hillary’s “it’s my turn” message?

What’s especially striking in similarity to the court of the Bourbons is the utter cluelessness of America’s entitled power elite to the agony of the moiling masses below them and mainly away from the coastal cities. Just about everything meaningful has been taken away from them, even though many of the material trappings of existence remain: a roof, stuff that resembles food, cars, and screens of various sizes.

But the places they are supposed to call home are either wrecked — the original small towns and cities of America — or replaced by new “developments” so devoid of artistry, history, thought, care, and charm that they don’t add up to communities, and are so obviously unworthy of affection, that the very idea of “home” becomes a cruel joke.

These places were bad enough in the 1960s and 70s, when the people who lived in them at least were able to report to paying jobs assembling products and managing their distribution. Now those people don’t have that to give a little meaning to their existence, or cover the costs of it. Public space was never designed into the automobile suburbs, and the sad remnants of it were replaced by ersatz substitutes, like the now-dying malls. Everything else of a public and human associational nature has been shoved into some kind of computerized box with a screen on it.

The floundering non-elite masses have not learned the harsh lesson of our time that the virtual is not an adequate substitute for the authentic, while the elites who create all this vicious crap spend millions to consort face-to-face in the Hamptons and Martha’s Vineyard telling each other how wonderful they are for providing all the artificial social programming and glitzy hardware for their paying customers.

The effect of this dynamic relationship so far has been powerfully soporific. You can deprive people of a true home for a while, and give them virtual friends on TV to project their emotions onto, and arrange to give them cars via some financing scam or other to keep them moving mindlessly around an utterly desecrated landscape under the false impression that they’re going somewhere — but we’re now at the point where ordinary people can’t even carry the costs of keeping themselves hostage to these degrading conditions.

The next big entertainment for them will be the financial implosion of the elites themselves as the governing forces of physics finally overcome all the ruses and stratagems of the elites who have been playing games with money. Professional observers never tire of saying that the government can’t run out of money (because they can always print more of it) but they can certainly destroy the value of that money and shred the consensual confidence that allows it to operate as money.

That’s exactly what is about to commence at the end of the summer when the government runs out of cash-on-hand and congress finds itself utterly paralyzed by party animus to patch the debt ceiling problem that disables new borrowing. The elites may be home from the Hamptons and the Vineyard by then, but summers may never be the same for them again.

The Deep State may win its war against the pathetic President Trump, but it won’t win any war against the imperatives of the universe and the way that expresses itself in the true valuation of things. And when the moment of clarification arrives — the instant of cosmic price discovery — the clueless elites will have to really and truly worry about the value of their heads.


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  1. pequiste July 24, 2017 at 6:19 am #

    .
    “Qu’ils mangent de la brioche!” overheard poolside at a patio party somewhere near Shinnecock Hills Golf Club.

    • CancelMyCard July 24, 2017 at 6:33 am #

      “Professional observers never tires of saying that the government can’t run out of money (because they can always print more of it) but they can certainly destroy the value of that money and shred the consensual confidence that allows it to operate as money.”

      Any and all “money” ceases to have value in instant that the populace loses confidence in it.

      “Professional observers never tires of saying that the government can’t run out of money (because they can always print more of it) but . . . as long as the sheeple continue to believe it is worth something, as long as the government can maintain the Big Lie, it will go on operating as money to infinity.”

      • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 8:47 am #

        It will until something becomes scarce. Most pundits say that substance will be oil. Some say silver. Others say fresh clean drinking water. The other big unknown is how big will climate change be? Will it kick our collective asses or will it be yawn?

        • daytrip July 24, 2017 at 10:40 am #

          Oilfield jobs are back in Colorado. Hip hip hooray.

        • JimInFlorida July 26, 2017 at 11:25 am #

          Agitation and Social Friction are the ultimate asset classes. There is no limit as to how much can be generated, thus creating artificial demand for the currency.

      • zekesdad July 24, 2017 at 11:20 am #

        All of that money the government keeps printing is issued as debt. What happens when interest rates get back up to historic levels instead of near zero where they have been since the start of the sub-prime crisis? There will be very little money for anything besides interest payments. This I believe is one reason the Fed has kept rates so low. And what happens when there are no more takers for government paper? Our country could no longer borrow and would have to (Gasp!) live with a balanced budget. Then we’d have real draconian spending cuts.

        • thwack July 24, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

          Can’t we just add mexicans to soak up the additional debt?

        • ejhr July 25, 2017 at 8:13 am #

          No “all that money ” is issued TO PAY DOWN DEBT. No debt = no money. The government buys its debts from thin air, but we punters have to pay back the banks whom we so willingly went to asset inflate our housing. This asset inflation is why we are too strapped to spend into the economy, so the economy suffers.

          There will ALWAYS be takers for government paper. It is in reality investor assets stored at the Fed, and getting interest. The government never spends the money. It is useless to it, and the fed never needs to borrow or save money it created in the first place. The government cooks the books to make it seem as if they are borrowing, but they wouldn’t need to borrow their own money anyway when with a few keystrokes they can credit any customer account.

          The “Balanced Budget” is another asinine idea. and along with the Debt Ceiling, positively stupid.

      • lsjogren July 24, 2017 at 11:39 am #

        As to “what is the basis for the value of the dollar?”, my response:

        The dollar has value because it is backed by the full faith and credit of the United States Armed Forces.

      • Anon1970 July 25, 2017 at 9:30 am #

        How one German family’s savings were wiped out in 1923:

        pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/minitext/ess_germanhyperinflation.html

  2. robert magill July 24, 2017 at 7:03 am #

    I’ve lived in America all of my eighty five years and my family has lived here much longer. Back in the day we did all the early American stuff. Kept slaves, killed Indians, Red Coats, Moslems, Mexicans, Yanks and/or Rebs, Spaniards; you know the list. We wrote the history books so it all seemed to make good sense; somehow. It’s just what one did, hereabouts, back in the day.
    Closer to my time we started to raise the ante a bit. That business with Spain gave a taste of what we could be if we were to expand the franchise a tad; maybe more than a tad. Those pretty, and lucrative, little Spanish islands we took over were tempting us to have more; ever more. Why be stay-at-homes; forget G. Washington! There’s a big world out there. The entire century, the 20th, was an American strategic effort with mostly poor results. Insularity exerting itself unbidden; George’s revenge ? Perhaps.
    Enter the coming of age century. The big 21st! Can we handle it? Grow up at last? Fat chance. A few guys blow up our stuff. Oh my, tantrum time. Ongoing, ever ongoing. Wet work all over the place. Mideast in shambles. Overspending big time. Domestic pain. DC resembling the Pol Pot on steroids. Half the GDP now in dead or zombie money locked up in midasville until doomsday. Tomorrow?
    Then, a national election i.e. the rug being pulled from under a sand castle mounted on lemon jello. Oops! Didn’t know it might all fall apart. Should have known about the odds. We were told of only 17 years of peace in the 241 years since 1776 and hoped maybe 2017 would be the lucky number 18, but no. In my time I’ve run the gamut of red, white and blue emotions. Old fashioned patriotism, worry, hope, despair, doubt and pride of country. Now my most solemn emotion seems to reflect the national scene as it doubtless appears in the eyes of the world …embarrassment.

    • DA July 24, 2017 at 8:11 am #

      Enter the coming of age century. The big 21st! Can we handle it? Grow up at last? Fat chance. A few guys blow up our stuff. Oh my, tantrum time. Ongoing, ever ongoing.

      You’re almost there Robert. Connect the dots. Means, motive, and opportunity. A few disaffected Saudi radicals? Laughable.

      • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 8:44 am #

        It’s been nearly 2100 years since they stabbed Julius Caesar on the marble floors of Pompey’s Theater and we still haven’t gotten past it and we may never will. Saint Malachy’s prediction of the Popes says this will be the last one. Maybe we can finally let the Roman Empire die. How this religion survived till today is one of the great untold stories of the modern age.

        • lsjogren July 24, 2017 at 11:44 am #

          Christianity is mostly today just a quaint custom people adhere to out of tradition, it has nearly zero impact on modern life, the economy, etc.

          The problem with Islam is that a lot of people believe in it, and in a reactionary version of it no less. It is not just a weekly social event like Christianity has evolved into.

          • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

            I believe the Vatican is 100 times more politically active than the average John Q Public would believe. It has survived because it is powerful, it kills to achieve its ends, and its ends are ultimately nefarious. The perception that it is a weekly social event works in their favor. There were something like 150 heads of state at the funeral of the last pope. They weren’t there socially. The Vatican as a state has tremendous power.

          • thwack July 24, 2017 at 1:00 pm #

            especially over mexicans.

            Just sayin

          • SteveO July 24, 2017 at 1:47 pm #

            “Christianity is mostly today just a quaint custom people adhere to out of tradition, it has nearly zero impact on modern life, the economy, etc.”

            I beg to disagree. So long as “conservatives” chose to give weight to prose written mostly in 1611 (King James bible) over scientific method it will detrimentally affect our economy. So long as they use the Christian faith as an excuse to not manage our population (be fruitful and multiply) that “quaint custom” will keep us on the road to collapse.

          • 100th Avatar July 24, 2017 at 5:02 pm #

            And social events they are! The cardinals’ Rent-boy parties at Castle Gandolfo are like legendary!

          • wolfbay July 25, 2017 at 2:34 pm #

            I’ll admit my bias up front. To me religion is just another excuse for humans to get tribal and do terrible things. However with Islam it seems that separation of religion and state is even more difficult than with other religions.Even the Turks are moving away from a secular state.

    • shotho July 24, 2017 at 9:16 am #

      The last election was certainly eye-catching. It’s looking more and more like “they” will be able to get rid of the “embarrassment”, but doubtful that “they” will be able to put the genie back in the bottle.

      • lsjogren July 24, 2017 at 11:46 am #

        Not sure what “genie” needs to go back in the bottle. The Deep State holds a pretty good grip on power and as you say will probably soon wipe out the one little mosquito on its arm.

        Who’s going to challenge the Deep State? The people who fancy themselves “The Resistance” are in fact simply useful idiots to the Deep State regime.

        • shotho July 24, 2017 at 1:10 pm #

          Well, I’m not sure what I meant by genie in the bottle either. But, I’m also not sure about the meaning of “deep state”. C. Wright Mills talked about the Power Elite in the 1950’s and coined the phrase, conflict theory, to denote the process whereby power is always fluid between the groups competing for it. There is no permanent power grouping because it would defy the natural law of greed and fear; i.e., the gang members falling out with each other as the resources contract. As the American pie shrinks conflict theory will become conflict practice and no power center will be sacrosanct.

    • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

      I agree with you on the Spanish American War as the beginning of the American Empire. Great false flag attack. I think the Founding Fathers had it right. Stay at home. No fun and games.

      • 100th Avatar July 24, 2017 at 5:05 pm #

        Actually,it was the let’s-take-Canada campaign of 1812. Failure. Should have learned.

    • BackRowHeckler July 24, 2017 at 10:34 pm #

      85 years! Holy sh*t!

      My hat’s off to you, sir!

      brh

  3. HowardBeale July 24, 2017 at 7:19 am #

    Jim,
    That we are nearing the point of sudden decent into chaos is no more plainly demonstrated than by the yearly returns of the CalSTRS pension system in California (goo.gl/q1RYaS): Though having a 13.4% return in 2016-17, the longer term averages are either just–or not quite–making the 7% long-term-average goal–and that with a stock market that has QUADRUPLED, and real estate that has gone exponential again; real estate now being a market which has been inconceivably and effectively cornered by Wall Street.

    Back-of-the-envelope math runs out of zeros when attempting to plot stock and real estate values required to continue those trends so as to keep pensions just underperforming. Of course, there’s the Catch 22: no way out, forward or back…

    It’s summer. Back to the beach!

  4. janet July 24, 2017 at 7:33 am #

    “That we are nearing the point of sudden decent into chaos is no more plainly demonstrated than by the yearly returns of the CalSTRS pension system in California (goo.gl/q1RYaS): Though having a 13.4% return in 2016-17…” –HowardBeale

    13.4% return = “sudden descent into chaos”

    Thank you for describing irrational paranoia so succintly.

    • HowardBeale July 24, 2017 at 9:23 am #

      Janetworld: A place where mathematical analysis = irrational paranoia…

    • hmuller July 24, 2017 at 10:05 am #

      Janet, look at other pension funds. Most are severely underfunded. Maybe California’s return is based on heavy investment in the stock market (fixed income investments certainly don’t pay 13.4%) The stock market, you may have heard, can also go down.

      • zekesdad July 24, 2017 at 11:14 am #

        Most large pension funds (and endowments, foundations, etc.) invest in more than stocks and bonds. They also invest in things like real estate, oil and gas, timberland, venture capital, etc. The person who successfully pioneered that strategy has been David Swenson who runs the Yale University endowment fund. He has been spectacularly successful, and has been copied by many others with varying degrees of success. The Dallas Police and Fireman’s pension fund tried it, and had to be bailed out by the state of Texas because of billion dollar shortfalls.

  5. DA July 24, 2017 at 8:25 am #

    Trump has too much value as a useful fool to let go of now. We’ll get four years of reality TV circus to keep us distracted from the unfolding shit show and to keep his red neck base placated while the kleptocracy continues its wholesale theft of everything of value remaining. We may or may not get a war with Russia as part of the bargain, although I suspect the real action is taking place behind the scenes within Putin’s extended inner circle. He’s been a tough nut to crack so far, but when the payoff gets large enough someone will be persuaded to betray him. The global elite will not be denied!

    • ozone July 24, 2017 at 8:59 am #

      DA,
      Interesting thought, but I would suspect (‘suspect’ only, mind you) that Pootie is a sharp enough cookie to put a few deadly fail-safes in place to ensure the sovereignty of his nation. After all, he witnessed what happened in the treasonous Yeltsin years of oligarchical overreach. I’m considering his background in the ‘quiet’ services as well.

      **And from NPR, as I type, harsh sanctions against Russia by our clueless congress are detailed in smiling tones. The stupidity and cupidity are faintly amazing (‘faintly’, cause we’re used to it now). The fact that these morons have no idea where we are, and why we’re here, is what brings the anger…

      • DA July 24, 2017 at 10:16 am #

        ‘Zone,

        Let’s hope so. Vlad’s likely the only thing standing between us and the globalists’ final solution.

  6. seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 8:40 am #

    When I look back on the decades, I have to say the 50’s look the best in the rear view mirror. The decade of Conservatism aged the best. I hate to say it because I am not a big conservative. The 60’s are just gross. The 70’s tacky. The 80’s garish. The 90’s are probably the closest to the 1950’s. Everyone doing well. Sense of well being. Imagine that decade without Ken Starr and you realize we never had to go through any of that. And then 9/11/2001 changed everything. At least W slammed the door on any future Bushes. Stick a fork in that family they’re done. I never got Obama, although I admit he is a lot more talented than I gave him credit for. I think he may be our last true president. Ultimately Trump will go down in Russian flames. Definitely feel like Watergate.

    • ozone July 24, 2017 at 9:37 am #

      ” I never got Obama, although I admit he is a lot more talented than I gave him credit for.”

      seawolf,
      His donor list gave us all a huge clue as to who he ‘worked for’ pre-election time. (Not that the public was given an actual choice about the matter, as per usual.)
      But, yes, he did have a fine talent for papering over the continuation of the Great Looting, which includes the ongoing wars, by means of skillful distractions and confident mouthings.

      • HowardBeale July 24, 2017 at 4:26 pm #

        “…and confident mouthings”–and an 8-year-long indentured servitude to the criminal cabal he should have, were he at all interested in justice for American Citizens, pasted a Most-Wanted picture of in place of the “presidential” seal in the podium…

  7. RobH July 24, 2017 at 8:51 am #

    Can never quite tell with Jim if he is reporting where we are, and sad or perhaps bitter at how we got here – the politics of history – or really if he would just really enjoy seeing some kind of revolt. He certainly reads as though a civil war would make his day especially if it involved the elite

  8. Jeremy July 24, 2017 at 8:53 am #

    Sp. – “.:: never tire…”

  9. newworld July 24, 2017 at 8:58 am #

    You old white liberals made one mistake (don’t listen to me) you patronized your daughters and created a monster.

    I lamented at one time Bill Clinton’s lip biting and feeling the pain of all those put upon white suburbanite Tiny Tims with boobs, but now that act is such a joke the worm has turned.

    In literal sense, 200lb 19 year old college sophmores with pink hair thinking they’re sexy are your’s and mine moral superiors.

    Right.

    • shotho July 24, 2017 at 9:23 am #

      Right, and they are pathetic creatures.

  10. janet July 24, 2017 at 9:24 am #

    “The 1950s look the best” –seawolf

    In the 1950’s we had a strong labor movement that guaranteed a living wage to raise a family. Back then there was a 95% marginal tax rate on the rich. Under Clinton we had a balanced budget. Republicans have cut taxes of the 1%, increased the national debt, destroyed unions, and now they want to throw millions off health insurance.

    • wolfbay July 24, 2017 at 9:57 am #

      There were many tax loopholes and many of the rich paid little tax let alone 95%. We dominated industrial production and there was limited international competition, no wage arbitrage, and had abundant cheap oil. Private industry could afford generous salaries and pensions.Maybe these two parties have much less control over the economy than people stuck in this dichotomy believe.

    • hmuller July 24, 2017 at 10:11 am #

      Janet, you forgot to mention Jim Crow laws, also rampant in the 1950’s. Maybe you can credit them with prosperity. Or the cold war missile race, or hoolihoops, or I Love Lucy, or the Senate Committee on Un-American Activities.

      Point being, synchronicity in time does not prove a cause and effect relationship.

      • hmuller July 24, 2017 at 10:21 am #

        Additionally, there was no Obama care in the 1950’s. Workers were not compelled by threat of imprisonment to spend a huge amount of their wages on that insurance company boondoggle (which you love so much).
        If you Janet were truly a friend of the working class, you wouldn’t put a gun to their heads with compulsory health care premiums they can’t afford. But oh yes, you’re a Marxist, a hater of mankind, an iron boot wannabe stomping on the face of humanity forever.

        • Bruce E July 24, 2017 at 12:32 pm #

          Only in crazyland is a small tax surcharge equated to “compelled by threat of imprisonment.”

          I even agree that federalized Romneycare (aka Obamacare) is a boondoggle to the insurance industry to benefit them and not really solve the base problem of who pays for healthcare, which is patients who face the choice between death and bankruptcy and somehow the “free market” is set up to play such a game fairly. But you tip your hand when you pretend that the individual mandate is tantamount to a threat of imprisonment…

          Yeesh, people.

          • benr July 24, 2017 at 2:06 pm #

            Oh really hey how about YOU refuse to pay your taxes.
            You will lose everything and POSSIBLY GO TO JAIL!

          • hmuller July 24, 2017 at 2:29 pm #

            “A small tax surcharge” First of all, Obamacare was permitted by the Supreme Court because they called it a tax; meanwhile Obama swore up and down it was not a tax. So what was it?

            Secondly, health insurance premiums are not small when your income is also small. Try paying $700 a month with a job at McDonalds.

            Congratulations Bruce, for being so wealthy that health insurance is a tiny insignificant expense to you.

            And as benr points out, refuse to pay any tax, no matter how small it may seem to you, and you will jailed.

          • Bruce E July 24, 2017 at 2:46 pm #

            Of course it’s a tax.

            And nobody is jailed because they can’t afford to pay the tax. Also, if you can’t afford to pay the premium, Medicaid was expanded to help you out — except in states where the GOP cut that path off.

            And I get my insurance through my employer, just like 85% of the people who are not on Medicare, Medicaid, or some other form of government health insurance. The ACA and the individual mandate only applies to the other 15% of people who don’t get their insurance in that way.

            And no — people are not jailed because of not paying $325 in taxes. It just doesn’t happen, even though on paper it could in theory.

      • SvrzoH July 25, 2017 at 4:16 am #

        To me, Lucy was always no more than face pimpled 6th grader “Christmas Elvis” who goes into over-the-top “performance” encouraged by the chuckles from the audience.

      • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 11:01 am #

        “Janet, you forgot to mention Jim Crow laws, also rampant in the 1950’s. Maybe you can credit them with prosperity. Or the cold war missile race, or hoolihoops, or I Love Lucy, or the Senate Committee on Un-American Activities.

        Herr Muller,

        Probably the most salient feature that causes us to see the ’50’s as a golden age is/was…our (then) youth and relative ignorance.

        “I wish I didn’t know now what I didn’t know then….”

    • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 10:57 am #

      I think it was more an indication of the times. The Baby Boomers came back and by 1950 they had kids nearing school age, and then the entire 1950’s was really idyllic. I was born in 1959, so I reached school age at the end of the 1950’s, 11/22/63. God almighty when you look back on the optical change going from JFK to LBJ and Jackie to Ladybird, it’s like the United States was turned from a pumpkin into the carriage of horror. I cannot look at a picture of LBJ and not get depressed, and it’s a direct result of the post JFK effect. The physics of the nation just headed down, and I don’t think ever recovered.

    • cbeard July 24, 2017 at 12:04 pm #

      We do need a union comeback. Bill Clinton’s balanced budget was all smoke and mirrors. To janet 9:24 post

    • Anon1970 July 24, 2017 at 12:07 pm #

      91% was the top Federal rate in 1956. I looked it up. Wolfbay is right about the tax loopholes. Oil depletion allowances were even mentioned in the movie “Giant”.

      The 1950’s were terrible for gays who were confined in the closet and afraid to come out lest they lose their jobs or get kicked out of the house by macho fathers.

      Dearborn, MI was off limits to blacks in the 1950’s, de facto, if not de jure (and were still off limits when I lived there over 40 years ago). Jim Crow laws were enforced throughout the Old South.

      Upper class clubs from New York to California still barred Jewish members and Jewish communities still felt the need to maintain their own hospitals.

      Even in the 1950’s, a lot of white Americans did not live like Beaver Cleaver.

      Republicans, starting with the Reagan years, cut taxes for virtually all taxpayers, although the high income folks came out better. I could even afford to take early retirement. But millions of voters made a big mistake by voting their religious beliefs instead of their economic self interest and now they are paying the price.

      As the US approaches its own version of 1789, I approach my three score and ten with no debts, money in the bank and a solid financial base for many more years of retirement. Of course, I know it can all change in very short order, but at my age, I am not going to let the gloom and doomers worry me.

      • benr July 24, 2017 at 2:09 pm #

        Have you looked at the price for a gallon of milk, gas, cheesy doodles or even a burger as of late?
        Inflation is here and under reported.
        Thanks Obama and gwbush!

        • Anon1970 July 24, 2017 at 3:59 pm #

          You forgot LBJ. But the inflation related to the Vietnam war came with a delay of several years.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 3:42 pm #

        Wait – you still think diversity is a good thing? That it actually works? Pure delusion. But hatred of Whites trumps everything, right?

        • Anon1970 July 24, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

          Well, perhaps if Republicans had concentrated on nation building at home instead waging wars abroad, the country would be in better shape than it is now.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 4:44 pm #

            The Republicans? You’re decades behind the ball now. Neo-Liberalism IS Neo-Conservatism. In different parts of the country, the same Pro-Wrestlers would be the good guys or the bad guys. But no matter, it was just a role. And they all were friends in the locker room.

          • daytrip July 24, 2017 at 6:12 pm #

            reply to Janos:
            That’s what Robert Redford said after making “All the President’s Men”. He thought he had made a film that would “change everything”. Anyway, Redford observed that when the politicians would meet for a drink after arguing all day at work, they were thick as thieves, patting each other on the back and buying each other drinks. Great analogy of the wrestlers. It’s beyond all recognition fucked up.

        • toktomi July 25, 2017 at 2:50 am #

          Nobody believes in that old fairy tale of diversity and heterogeneity anymore. Everyone knows that the Universe thrives on homogeneity and mono-cultures.

          ~toktomi~

    • JMR July 24, 2017 at 12:11 pm #

      Here we go with the “balanced budget under Clinton” myth again. Tell me, if the budget was balanced, or we were running a surplus as many claim, why then did the budget during the Clinton years add to the national debt every single year?

      • Anon1970 July 24, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

        The National Debt actually went down slightly in 2000 and would have contiunued to go down in the absence of the Middle East wars and the Bush tax cuts. For a very short time, economists were concerned that the Fed would not be able to conduct monetary policy if all of the government’s debt were paid off in a decade or so. They needn’t have worried.

      • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

        First line of attack was Newt Gingrich’s Congress did it. Now it looks like they’ve given up on that and are on the myth nut.

  11. Elrond Hubbard July 24, 2017 at 9:37 am #

    Live-tweeting the #Detroit67 riots, 50 years ago today

    freep.com/story/news/detroitriot/2017/07/19/detroit-riots-live-tweet-facebook-free-press/103830618/

    “This July marks the 50th anniversary of the civil disturbance and unrest that erupted in Detroit and we’re live-tweeting the events of historic July 1967.

    “When areas of the city turned violent on July 23, 1967, journalists braved dangers to cover the ensuing days and document the impact on people, neighborhoods, businesses, law enforcement, the political establishment and the city at large. The Free Press was recognized for its efforts with a Pulitzer Prize.

    “But it’s important to remember that Detroit in 1967 was a city of deep divisions that permeated every level of public life.

    “The city’s segregation and prejudices led to omissions in coverage and perspectives. Detroit’s African American community was under-represented in news stories and often delegitimized. The absence of blogs and social media accounts meant many voices and frustrations, from the city and suburbs alike, went unheard.

    “As we planned our coverage, we wondered: what would it have been like to witness the summer of ’67 with the tools and technologies of today?”

  12. Dumbedup July 24, 2017 at 9:41 am #

    Now we see why the 1% fought so hard to repeal the estate tax. we are on the verge of neo-feudalism. Instead of a government we will be ruled by “House Harkonnen” and “House Atreides.”

    It is damn near Biblical.

    • wolfbay July 24, 2017 at 10:05 am #

      Excuse me for believing those old white guys the”founding fathers” had valuable ideas we should still follow today. They were for the estate tax so we could avoid creating a new aristocracy.

      • Dumbedup July 24, 2017 at 11:17 am #

        Never apologize for being right.

        They were afraid of aristocracy. The knew the evils of inherited position and wealth.

        • Yuri Sowryteski July 24, 2017 at 12:49 pm #

          Dumdedup – True,and they were also afraid of corporate charters, although a better phrase might be, “they knew how the aristocracy worked historically”, and “they knew how corporate charters worked historically”.

          The connecting link between the aristocracy and the corporations who were chartered by the monarchs of their time, were lawyers – and they understood how they worked as well.

          Ted Nace wrote an interesting book on the subject:
          gangsofamerica.com/read.html

          Considering that the amendments to the constitution were all intended to protect Citizens from monarchs and their corporations, it’s understandable that our aristocracy now is effectively taking them away. They can afford to buy a new government and a new media, whenever they need to. Chump change to them.

          They have it sewed up tight, WCPGW? Well, everything could go wrong, and will go wrong, because they are in a bubble.

          We the lower class will suffer the most, but then that’s our function: endure. We, the lower class may or may not succeed.

          • Dumbedup July 24, 2017 at 4:26 pm #

            Interesting. Up until the latter part of the 19th century corporate charters had to be issued and renewed by the legislature annually. That became unwieldy (and unnecessarily political) but it provided a check on the power of corporations. Now charters are issued by Secretaries of State in perpetuity.

            it is also fascinating how many changes took place in the 1920s. The Federal Reserve Act, The IRS (income taxes) and the 17th Amendment. Just today I read that there is a movement to repeal the 17th Amendment and return the selection of Senators to State Legislatures. That actually might not be a bad idea in theory; except that some state legislatures are (especially mine) are more corrupted by money than Washington.

        • wolfbay July 24, 2017 at 5:29 pm #

          They also wanted to curb the power of government. Obama murdered American citizens with drones without due process and spied on millions of American citizens without probable cause.He continued and expanded the endless wars without a declaration of war from congress.Evidently the constitution and the bill of rights mean little to many Americans and especially to our most famous “constitutional scholar ” Obama.

        • Anon1970 July 25, 2017 at 9:42 am #

          The estate tax was not introduced until 1916. In the early years of the republic, the major sources of federal revenue were import duties (tariffs) and taxes on whiskey.

  13. Petro July 24, 2017 at 9:42 am #

    Whatever happened to Neon Vincent? He used to be one of the first to comment every week.

    • malthuss July 24, 2017 at 10:14 am #

      And Qstik?

      • janet July 24, 2017 at 11:21 am #

        Q’s dead, Zed.

        • beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 11:40 am #

          He got off the bus, Gus.

          • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 11:04 am #

            Confirmation?

    • K-Dog July 24, 2017 at 10:14 am #

      Apparently he is still vertical. He also goes by Pinku Sensi and he has this website.

      crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/

      There is an entry with today’s date there.

    • HowardBeale July 24, 2017 at 4:37 pm #

      I would guess his use of Jim’s blog for free advertising finally either paid off or it didn’t…

  14. sprawlcapital July 24, 2017 at 9:50 am #

    The elites may be home from the Hamptons and the Vineyard by then, but summers may never be the same for them again.
    ===============================================
    We can indeed hope that autumn brings this fate upon the elites.

    I see no other source of hope for anything like a decent future. People are simply too much under the influence of groupthink and laziness to devise living arrangements that make sense on a finite planet. Living arrangements that do not involve converting Iowa’s precious farmland to “development” and driving to WalMart forever.

    • beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 10:56 am #

      Walmart disgusts me to the point I never go there. But it does provide a service. It allows those shoppers to believe they are living a decent life, even though they are purchasing low quality, cheaply made, unhealthy foreign goods. If things get bad enough, the revolt will start when the public can no longer purchase these items, and the illusions they provide fade away, leaving only harsh reality.

      As I remember them, the 1950’s had a great underlying tension and a significant undercurrent of desperation. Recall the Stones’ “Mother’s Little Helper”. It’s funny how the passage of time warps our sense of history.

      • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 1:22 pm #

        Without question it had an underlying desperation. Unhappy things (life) happening in Paradise. It’s the very definition of cognitive dissonance.

      • Dumbedup July 24, 2017 at 4:46 pm #

        Taken alone, I don’t think the events of today are worse than the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s which were marked by integration, civil rights marches, lynchings, riots, war protests, Cuban missile crisis, the Berlin Wall, women’s liberation, assassinations, school busing, Vietnam, oil embargo and inflation/stagflation. At the time I didn’t think we would make it to the year 2000 much less 2017. But the confluence of events with the economics of the times make these especially dangerous times.

      • benr July 25, 2017 at 10:18 am #

        Walmart while not being a good place to shop because of fellow shoppers is far cheaper than other places and you can buy American made goods there as well.
        I just bought a bottle of Canadian owned Seagrams 7 and American made Jack Daniels just the other day!!!
        Not to shabby!
        Cheapest bullets in town as well.
        Walmart has a function and a purpose you just need to go when the walmartians are at a lower amount.

    • Henry July 24, 2017 at 11:04 am #

      I thought about this a lot and what I believe is true is that All of us, even the elites to a point, are victims of “it”.

      “It” being the enormous techno-industrial-capitalist-corporate-yada-yada complex-machine which practically speaking, does have a life of its own apart from decisions of individual persons.

      • daytrip July 24, 2017 at 3:00 pm #

        It’s like the last few years of the Grateful Dead writ large. Some of the band didn’t want to be touring as much as they did. At least it was argued that Jerry should have taken time off. But, the tour was a big thing. It took many people to run that show and their livelihoods depended on it. It’s the same with what you’re saying, the momentum is mind boggling! How we step back in order to save the planet, and ourselves, is the question in my opinion.
        I think most of our problems are way oversimplified. Like fracking in Colorado…well, if you drive a semi truck, jobs are now a little easier to get. The more you drive and pollute, the more money you make.
        Fracking. Dangerous, but I like to drive my car. As long as it’s NIMBY, I guess I can deal with it. Nobody asked me, anyway. Is it the religious right that is for greater population, or the fact that we’re in debt up to our eyebrows and gotta keep workin’! Expand, expand! The morality of the cancer cell. Back to the great Al Bartlett, “the biggest problem of the human race is the inability to comprehend simple math, the exponential function in regards to population growth. But everyone wants a job, right? How to you reconcile that?

        • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 3:47 pm #

          Universal Income as discussed last week in Silicon Valley by the moguls. Who knows better than they who design the machines that are replacing humans in the workplace?

          • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 3:48 pm #

            The more people, the smaller the slices of pie per capita. Most people, at least not those crazed by Leftist idealism and virtue display, understand that basic math, one tied to self interest.

          • daytrip July 24, 2017 at 5:55 pm #

            I’ve seen that video someone posted here about the silicon valley preppers. Som bitch! The guy in the video was pretty convinced of AI taking over millions upon millions of jobs. Possibly worse than nafta (nod to Ross-giant sucking sound- Perot) So, how do we get to a sustainable world population and who decides what that is? And who will benefit from that arrangement other than life on eaarth (Bill McKibben?).

          • benr July 25, 2017 at 10:21 am #

            Economy scales just so long as it is allowed to!
            We don’t need to kill granny so someone else can have a chance.
            All that is bull crap.
            Universal wage is about human resource CONTROL.

          • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 1:45 pm #

            9 out of 10 manufacturing jobs are now lost to robotics and automation.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 25, 2017 at 2:28 pm #

            benr: I heard one Libertarian schmoe say, So what if a few people own everything? As long as they got it fairly.

            Well fair is one of those funny words. What’s fair to you might not be fair in my book. And if you woke up in a world where you were a slave or where a few people owned everything (same thing), it would be your duty to overthrow them. That’s fair in my book.

    • Anon1970 July 24, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

      The times have a feel of the summer of 1939, as re-created in the movies “Hope and Glory” and “Mrs. Miniver”. Unfortunately, if financial chaos descends on the elites, it will also hurt everyone else. Imagine trying to withdraw funds from your bank account and getting a “Closed” message at the ATM. The FDIC has only very tiny amount of reserves to cover failing banks (about 2% of insured deposits). Be careful what you wish for.

      • Yuri Sowryteski July 24, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

        ” Imagine trying to withdraw funds from your bank account and getting a “Closed” message at the ATM”

        I’ve been living without much money of and on since 1980. Winter is when I spend the most money. Summer is easy.

        • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 11:08 am #

          “Summer is easy.”

          Fish are jumpin’, and the cotton is high….

      • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 3:51 pm #

        Thank God Trump is in office if that happens when Mr Kunstler said. He can declare martial law and then have the means to drain the swamp.

        • Elrond Hubbard July 24, 2017 at 4:13 pm #

          Hmm, JHK said just the opposite shortly before the election:

          “[T]he winner … is sure to be the biggest loser because the global economy is in the process of tanking, Long Emergency style, and the global finance system is going down with it. Whoever presides over this fiasco from the White House is going to be a bigger bag-holder than old Herbert Hoover in 1929.”

          kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/sizing-up-the-endgame/

          That’s the thing about painting yourself as the Big Boss: everything is your fault. Regardless of the facts, to whoever happens to be in office when things go kerplooey will go the discredit. Whether things go as you say depends greatly on whether the American people share your bottomless taste for being dominated at all costs. I don’t think they do.

          • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

            Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy! I can’t wait!

        • Dumbedup July 24, 2017 at 4:49 pm #

          If he is still President when that happens he won’t survive the military coup which will follow.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 5:49 pm #

            The rank and file are overwhelmingly behind him. Military bases are Trump towns.

          • Dumbedup July 24, 2017 at 7:19 pm #

            The truth is very few people are behind Trump save the stupid and illiterate. He has the lowest approval rating of any President in history – after only 6 months – according to a Gallup Poll. (38.8) But even if he has some support from the rank and file members of the military (doubtful) coups are carried out by generals.

          • benr July 25, 2017 at 10:28 am #

            Dumbedup you are clueless.
            The polls you cite are so wrong it’s pathetic.
            You must live on one of the coasts in a big city full of dumbed down over educated brain washed leftists who yell into the echo chamber about how right they are. Or you are a sock puppet.

            Trump has far more support at this point then the main stream hyper partisan media is a willing to admit.
            I see it daily and it sickens me I just wish Obama would have been treated half as badly by the same media that now bashes Trump.

            I don’t really like the guy much but the other choice was just to entitled and corrupt and as the media attacks him more and more I find myself half defending some of his decisions.

          • Dumbedup July 25, 2017 at 11:19 am #

            benr – what evidence do you have that those polls are wrong?

            There is no doubt that Trump has enemies in the press. After all, he did say the “press” was the enemy. But he has also created his own problems. He refuses to appear in news conferences before the WH Press Corp, and instead he communicates by wild late night rants on Twitter. Now he wants to fire Jeff Sessions and replace him with Giuliani. The man shoots himself in the foot more often than Moe, Larry and Curly.

            I didn’t like either choice, but I didn’t vote for Trump. My feeling was (and still is) that Clinton may have gotten us deeper into foreign conflicts, but that the election of Trump would bring the conflict home. Turns out that Trump is going to get us deeper into foreign conflicts AND start the ones you will be witnessing outside your living room window.

            When the next recession/depression/collapse comes his buffoonery will be on full display.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 25, 2017 at 2:31 pm #

            Dumb still can’t decide if the Muslim rape epidemic is real. He thinks it might be right wing propaganda. I asked him if he had changed him mind, but he ignored me, miffed that I had asked some hard questions about his mode of perception.

  15. trypillian July 24, 2017 at 10:05 am #

    The animal kingdom savours the flavour of the brains as an important source of protein of their fresh kills. They value the grey matter highly. Humans would also enjoy the symbolic value in their consumption of the head as the above mentioned delicacy exits the body. Personally, I would like to feast on the knackers as the symbolic holy grail.

    • cbeard July 25, 2017 at 11:58 am #

      To Dumbedup, The evidence for the errors in polling bring to mind the election itself. They all showed Clinton winning by landslide. Also I believe there is a silent majority that abhors the way things have transpired in recent decades and are ready to defend a more homogenous, nationalistic society.

      • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 1:48 pm #

        Do pollsters ask “Are you going to vote?” That is what happened. People didn’t vote. Clinton got 7,000,000 fewer votes than Obama 8 years earlier.

  16. AKlein July 24, 2017 at 10:08 am #

    “… the clueless elites will have to really and truly worry about the value of their heads.”
    This is quite a profound declaration coming from our host JHK. Regarding violence, I do not believe JHK is given to hyperbole, thus, it would seem that he is asserting this is actually possible. It’s certainly an outcome worth pondering – including all the attendant consequences.

    • K-Dog July 24, 2017 at 10:56 am #

      I read what everybody wrote so far before I decided to add my two cents worth.

      “… the clueless elites will have to really and truly worry about the value of their heads.”

      This is called the Just World Fallacy.

      The number of people who had a problem with establishing ‘my turn’ Hillary as part of an ongoing Clinton aristocracy are few and far between. Most people just hated her. All the things the American aristocracy has done to the common prole they have gotten by with. The further you get from the coasts, useless eaters from sea to shining sea blame their problems on anything but the elite.

      Blacks, Mexicans, transexuals, liberals, commies, anything but the real culprits are blamed. Anything the Fox News tells them to hate they do. American elites are artists at misdirection and they have successfully harnessed the rage of the dim. They do not fear it but rather effectively channel omnipresent ignorant rage into votes.

      No better proof that the clueless will remain clueless is there than the election of Trump himself and the Russian weirdness. The thought goes through my mind that the Trump team invented the phony Russian brouhaha themselves as a means to distract from the Republican pilfering that now defines government. It is only a thought however since rabid neo-liberal members of the blue team lead this current incantation of the Charge of the Light Brigade.

      The French Revolution had the Women’s March on Versailles and Russian Revolution had a Bloody Sunday. Both these historical events were needed to turn their people against their aristocracy and Russia would have a czar to this day had it not been for WWI. Prior to the troubles Tsarina Alexandra observed that all it took to make the public love them was to smile and wave at the peasants from time to time.

      America will not have an equivalent historical event. A march on the government in America will be diverted to vacant lots and there will be no media coverage. There will be no whimper of revolution and high fructose corn syrup suppresses outrage.

      In America everyone loves their elites and lives under the fantasy they can become one themselves. Everybody thinks they are just one lotto ticket away from being aristocracy themselves. There may be more to actually becoming an aristocrat, but the hope of being like them means our elites will not be losing their heads.

      • Bruce E July 24, 2017 at 11:26 am #

        You are spot-on, K-Dog: “In America everyone loves their elites and lives under the fantasy they can become one themselves. Everybody thinks they are just one lotto ticket away from being aristocracy themselves. There may be more to actually becoming an aristocrat, but the hope of being like them means our elites will not be losing their heads.”

        Not only do they love their elites, and wish to be a part of the aristocracy, they blame themselves for not already becoming one (if I worked harder, longer hours, was a bit more clever, was a bit luckier, if I could have increased my 3-point percentage a little higher during my high school basketball days, etc.). They don’t really blame the aristocracy for gaming the system unjustly to protect themselves and keep the riffraff out.

        To admit the aristocracy is unjustly benefiting from the way things are is to admit we live in an unjust world. That’s too much for people to take. They would rather blame themselves than admit the world could be unjust…

        • beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 11:33 am #

          In my experience,there is a moiety of people. One group blames everyone and everything else for bad things happening, and the other blames themselves. Don’t generalize.

          • Bruce E July 24, 2017 at 11:37 am #

            Haha, because splitting people into two groups instead of one is not generalizing…

      • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 3:56 pm #

        Yeah Dog, I have to say your wrong. Most people sure, but there are many in the hinterlands who know who are the real culprits. Why do you think Infowars and Drudge are so huge? Of course that doesn’t mean we’re ok with the Muslims and Minorities – the flying monkey soldiers of the Elite.

      • HowardBeale July 24, 2017 at 4:50 pm #

        K-Dog,
        I think you nailed the governing paradigm of our age: “…high fructose corn syrup suppresses outrage.”

        The one who can time the end of high-fructose corn syrup will be thereafter hailed as the greatest prophet ever…

        • sophia July 24, 2017 at 11:02 pm #

          When the crops fail.

        • benr July 25, 2017 at 10:32 am #

          Not corn syrup as much as SSRI meds in the water as well as Fluoride.

  17. beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 10:17 am #

    Jim, comparing us to 1789 France. – well done. I’ve heard many people state that the public is suffering so much from anomie that they are incapable of rebelling. We’ll see, but you’ve written an excellent piece here, IMHO.

  18. Henry July 24, 2017 at 10:36 am #

    I from not only Boston, but one of its richest suburbs called Lexington Massachusetts.

    Me and my family were at the bottom of the income ladder there and my mom moved there for the “good schools”. But honestly, I hate that place. You should’ve seen the number of Hilary “I’m with her” bumper stickers and lawn signs around town. Truly a haven of the technocratic elite.

    McMansions are the terrain and miserable school students full of anxiety/depression are drugged up on the fanciest psychiatric drugs to slavishly walk to school at 6:30Am past plastic fake smiles from parents. Looking at the parents faces while they are driving (when they think no one is watching) and cutting off people in their Mercedes SUV you can see frightening faces full of anger, arrogance and misery.

    Then, every one here in public situations talks about “no place for hate”, “coexist” and “progress” and “innovation”. I guess everyone need to feel like they are decent good folk.

    There has been several student suicides the last few years and when the principle said we need to address it, by cutting back on school work a little bit, she was the target of ridicule from 60% of the professionals that live in town.

    But I still prefer living around those people as opposes to Ex-blue collars on drugs and teen pregnancies and Jerrey springer.

    • malthuss July 24, 2017 at 10:47 am #

      The place doesnt sound so bad.
      However when the ‘Dollar Dies’, look out.

      • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 1:42 pm #

        I can’t remember if I cried when I read about his widowed bride
        But something touched me deep inside, the day, the dollar died

        So Bye bye Miss American Pie
        Drove my Chevy to the levy but the levy was dry
        Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
        Singin this’ll be the day that I die
        This’ll be the day that I die

    • beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 11:23 am #

      Henry, my wife’s niece and her family live in Lexington. They did move there for the school system. My brother-in-law tells me that Asians make up a significant portion of the students, which goes along with Asians’ emphasis on a good education.

      Me, I come from a blue collar suburb of Boston, so I wouldn’t fit in such a high-falutin’ area.

      • Henry July 24, 2017 at 12:13 pm #

        That “good education” destroys people. But it does get some of them to ivy leagues.

        Still, I don’t remember anything of what they supposedly “taught” me there. Oh well, It gets you to good schools so that in the future you can buy a Mcmansion and destroy your young in a similar school system; get that bigger piece of the suburb consumption pie. The entire way of life in that town is organized for that end! Sad! Lack of vision! Fueled by greed and fear.

        Yup, I guess I can say I’m angry and I have many reasons which I’ll spare you from elaborating on.

        Now, Many of the asian immigrants there, come with a completely totalitarian cultural attitude, even by their home country standards. For them, everything is about school and they send their kids to do math summer camp all summer and do five APs ect. ect.

        Those parents in that town are fanatical about doing well in the school system, they force their kids to do it even if it mean using cocktails of psychiatric drugs; As persons and families they are almost non-existent. In that regard it makes me more sad than disgusted.

        I’ve grown up seeing many of my classmates slowly turn form being lively energetic kids to insensitive jerks with the same expression their parents carry as they cut people off in their Mercedes SUVs.

        • thwack July 24, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

          Asians have parade ground intelligence.

          Just sayin

      • Henry July 24, 2017 at 12:20 pm #

        Last note:
        Sorry If I offended you or some of your relatives in some way. My emotions got the better of me as they flew through the keyboard into the comment box.

        • beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 1:56 pm #

          I’m not offended at all. Actually I smiled a bit because I remember how I reacted in the 1960’s whenever anyone said something not-negative about the establishment.

          It’s ironic because I’ve always considered myself a rebel, and now as I’m entering old age, I’m seen as maybe one of “them”.

          FYI, I’ve always had a hair across my ass wrt public education.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 4:01 pm #

      Concord is cooler without being blue collar. Still far too much devotion for the Witch though. Not too many monkey soldiers yet, at least to my knowledge. That may have changed by now.

  19. malthuss July 24, 2017 at 10:44 am #

    BS Bill, now tell me there is no action by your tribe against Christians, you liar;

    Muslim advocacy organizations in Europe & US. Here is a partial list.

    United Synagogue
    West London Synagogue of British Jews.
    London-based Institute for Jewish Policy Research
    The Jewish Council for Racial Equality UK
    Board of British Jews
    Office of the Chief Rabbi Liberal Judaism & Masorti Judaism UK
    Movement for Reform Judaism UK
    Board of Deputies of British Jews
    Central Jewish Organization of the Netherlands
    Hungarian Jewish communities Jewish community of Milan
    European Jewish Association lobby
    Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS)
    Central Council of Jews in Germany
    Association of Jewish Family and Children’s Agencies
    Habonim Dror North America
    Jewish Council for Public Affairs
    Jewish Labor Committee
    The Rabbinic Call for Human Rights
    The American Jewish Committee (AJC)
    The Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith
    The National Council of Jewish Women
    The Union for Reform Judaism
    The Workmen’s Circle
    The Rabbinical Assembly
    Jewish World Watch
    Jewish World Congress
    American Jewish Congress
    World Jewish Congress
    Central Jewish Organization of the Netherlands
    Mazsihisz umbrella group of Hungarian Jewish communities
    Jewish community of Milan
    European Jewish Association lobby
    In France the organizations LICRA (Ligue internationale contre le racisme et l’antisemitisme) and CRIF(Conseil Représentatif des Institutions Juives de France)
    Israeli organizations even “rescue” Muslims off the coast of Europe and physically transport them to European soil

    • elysianfield July 24, 2017 at 11:03 am #

      “BS Bill, now tell me there is no action by your tribe against Christians, you liar;”

      Malthuss,
      Decorum, please. Invectives cheapen your comment.

    • beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 11:12 am #

      My, my, Malthuss, you sure are angry this morning. Not good for your health.

      BTW, American and European Jews are pretty compassionate. Even though I personally wouldn’t go out of my way to help Mideast muslims, I can applaud those Jews for being better people than I. You are so cynically anti-Semitic, you cannot see any other possibility but a negative one for their actions. I would feel sorry for you if your belief systems weren’t so disgusting.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 4:08 pm #

        Oh sure, giving away Western Culture – that’s real compassion. Old quote, “By way of deception shall you make war”. I’ve heard that’s the motto of the Israeli Intelligence Agency.

        • JimInFlorida July 24, 2017 at 6:59 pm #

          Jews are very generous at giving away what belongs to Whitey. Including our living space.

          The epitome of Jews giving away what doesn’t belong to them was exemplified by Emma Lazarus’ poetry and inscribed on the Babylonian goddess, Ishtar, in New York Harbor,

          “Give me your tired, your poor,
          Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
          The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
          Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
          I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

          Glorious, magnanimous, and flowery poetry *UNTIL* the 3rd Worlders discovered that the golden door was foolishly opened to them, too. Poetry doesn’t always translate into good law and policy.

          Ishtar, a.k.a Semiramis a.k.a Diana was also known in the Bible as, “MOTHER OF THE HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH”

          That fits ZOG Amerika to a “T”

          • beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 10:42 pm #

            You are just a fuckin’ wacko, nothing more complicated than that.

          • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 9:41 am #

            The Statue of Liberty really took on ominous tones after seeing those pictures of 9/11.

        • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 9:40 am #

          Actually it’s from Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War.” Or in the immortal lingo of Paulie Walnuts Sun Tu-zoo.

      • sophia July 24, 2017 at 11:09 pm #

        But no compassion for the Palestinians?

  20. Bruce E July 24, 2017 at 11:12 am #

    The value of money is not destroyed by physics. It is created, and destroyed, by psychology. The psychology favors the elite, and they have done an effective job (at least so far) protecting the value of that money from a psychology informed by a credible assessment of the physics of energy and its effects on the overall economy.

    The violence you speak of being possible is already in full force, it’s just that it is not directed at the rich and the elite but rather it has been directed at the people suffering already. The self-destructive behaviors you constantly rail about on this blog — obesity, tattoos, self-obsession of pop stars, the worship of the cultural elite such as the Kardashians, the opioid epidemic, the increasing suicide rates of the formerly blue collar workers — this is where the violence is directed, not at the gated communities of the ultra-rich.

    The people left out of the economic boom times facilitated by the technocratic classes limited their “revolution” to flipping the bone to HRC in the ultimate self-destructive act of electing Trump. Now they just want to watch the world burn while taking the edge off the pain by drowning themselves in oxycontin or whatever they can get their hands on.

    I don’t see torches and pitchforks this time around. I don’t see, no matter how accurate the physics of energy might be, a righting of the ship that takes the form of the elites losing the value of their stock portfolios. If the stock market takes a nosedive, and likely it will at some point, we will see that the elites got out a few microseconds before everybody else and probably found a way to profit off of the nosedive by shorting the market on the way down.

    • messianicdruid July 24, 2017 at 6:13 pm #

      “I don’t see torches and pitchforks this time around.”

      And you won’t until the policy enforcers and the mercinaries stop getting paid.

  21. Beryl of Oyl July 24, 2017 at 11:12 am #

    I don’t see how the only man in the world to recognize what is going on, and to attempt to stand up to the global elites, is “pathetic”.

    “It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood.”

    At least that’s what I think.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 4:19 pm #

      Bravo. They still can’t let go of their hatred of Trump even when they castigate the Conspiracy against him. Yes, he doesn’t have the traditional decorum, but all the guys who do are part of the problem. No one from the that Class ever came forward to help the American People. Strange, but true. So it was up to a Barbarian of sorts. Fine by me since the smooth and the sophisticated are simply the Enemy now.

      The old West was plagued by violence. Finally people might get a fast draw sheriff and a hanging judge to restore order. Would they be grateful? No, rather they would vote the people who save their town out at the earliest opportunity. Virtue display (and the lack or real virtue) was part of the American character even then. Optics are everything and they wanted their towns to draw investors and business. So good but hard men aren’t wanted in public office since the merchant class doesn’t control them and the middle class Kathys associate them with criminals since both are violent. This is like confusing thugs with surgeons since both use knives.

  22. amb July 24, 2017 at 11:25 am #

    It’s a wonder that JHK hasn’t committed suicide by now. He has utter contempt for humanity; his fellow man; his fellow American.

    Man is great. He is brilliant. His inventions are wonderful. I love iPhones, iPads and big screen TVs. They make my life easier and more enjoyable and aid my education.

    Quit whining and quit the vitriolic criticism.

    If you are so unhappy and dyspeptic, why not just end it all for yourself?

    • Bruce E July 24, 2017 at 11:31 am #

      Exactly. If you are not personally benefited by the wonders of our technocratic society, you have nobody to blame but yourself. The opportunities are out there to be seized upon by anybody, and if you are not successful it is because you are too lazy or too pessimistic or too stupid or whatever. It cannot possibly be because the game is set up unjustly to favor some people over others, isolated from the justice of what people deserve or do not deserve.

      Quit whining and either pull yourself up by your own bootstraps or kill yourself (or get hooked on opioids, same difference). It’s all your fault if you are not part of the aristocracy who enjoy the brilliance of man’s inventions.

      • beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 1:58 pm #

        Actually, I agree with you.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 4:24 pm #

        It’s your fault if you aren’t rich – and rich means virtuous too. This is the American ethos in a nutshell. The poor are utter scum so of course Americans want to be rich since they don’t want to be scum.

        This is completely at odds with Real Christianity so that had to be replaced by Prosperity, Positive Thinking, and Social Justice gospels – the latter making the opposite mistake of worshiping the poor.

        • beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 10:44 pm #

          Getting a job would be a good attitude adjustment for you.

      • cbeard July 25, 2017 at 5:52 am #

        I use and enjoy the wonders of technology. I wonder who or what you consider successful. I assume from your post that you are one who judges success on the amount in a persons bank account. You would probably consider me to be “lazy, pessimistic or too stupid” as I am not particularly wealthy. My definition of aristocracy would be much different from yours. Some may come from extremely wealthy circumstance but I know more from salt of the earth, blue collar, working class origins than you can imagine. I would be willing to bet that you don’t have many real friends in your life. With the despicable attitude that you convey, I can’t imagine anyone enjoying your company. I’d say you are the goddamned whiner.

    • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 1:32 pm #

      It’s a real problem. The other Peak Oil guy Mike Ruppert allegedly killed himself. JHK has taken a position where he has to scold. He sees this huge one time bonanza of energy being misused and he says so. You can either keep enjoying the misuse and stay mum, or come here and vent. I speak out all the time about our worship of the screen, and you certainly suffer from it. Is life really better staring at a screen, whether it be 5 inches or 40 feet. Is it really? When I’m lying on my deathbed am I really going to look back fondly on the 30 years I spent watching the screens. I go out today and everybody is on their smart phone. JS.

      • benr July 25, 2017 at 10:42 am #

        Indeed get out of the house go have fun under the sun.
        I get out every weekend and visit my local beach surf and watch the volleyball girls and the local ladies also enjoying life.
        This worship of smart phones and T.V. is nothing short of sad the key is moderation!!!!
        Have a cold beer at your local park just watch out for the ever present tax collector aka your local Police force.

    • HowardBeale July 24, 2017 at 5:05 pm #

      The “problem” with JHK is that he is old enough to have lived during a time where people were civil and polite–or where people were subject to a movement that was applying pressure to be so; a time when families were strong and communities were stronger; when people entertained each other by interacting in meaningful ways–ways which inspired empathy and understanding, and which supported the development of the arts in each as a way to interact with and enjoy the company of one’s friends and neighbors…

      Now surely that is an idealization, but that is a world many of us knew and believed in while growing up in peak middle-class 50s and 60s–all substantial race problems aside.

      One only need drive to and from Walmart to interact with enough mental peasants that are risking your life while texting their latest selfie to fully hate the current crop of useless eaters–and you don’t even need to go into Walmart to achieve that mental state–better for your health if you don’t.

      • ozone July 25, 2017 at 8:23 am #

        …And the War on Empathy continues and expands, some of its most respected soldiers appear right here in this comment section, and yet others, referred to within their comments. More insidious than it would first appear. Know your authoritarian enemies, for they are the enemies of any *civil* society (as much as any criminal element, but that’s an understanding for another day).

        • ozone July 25, 2017 at 7:38 pm #

          (…So nice to see my points handily made *for* me without any fuss and bother on my part at all! Why, it’s almost magical!)

      • benr July 25, 2017 at 10:45 am #

        The further down the Socialist maw the worse peoples behavior gets.
        This is a problem with every kid gets a trophy and you are all special and entitled!
        Go ahead and use the bathroom you feel like today it’s ok.
        Add in emasculated men and hyper masculine women and look what you get a society in free fall.
        Liberalism is a mental disorder and it is part and parcel with Socialism.

    • njguy73 July 24, 2017 at 11:23 pm #

      Someone once asked H.L. Mencken “If you find so much that is unworthy of reverence in the United States, then why do you live here?”

      Mencken responded, “Why do men go to zoos?”

    • michael July 28, 2017 at 5:07 am #

      “Man is great. He is brilliant. His inventions are wonderful — I love iPhones, iPads and big screen TVs.”

      Looks like you are not among the great and brilliant.

  23. San Jose July 24, 2017 at 11:34 am #

    In the Bay Area, folks are waxing nostalgic about the 50th anniversary of the “Summer of Love.” Actually, it was the summer of a huge public health crisis in San Francisco.

    At one of our major art museums, they staged a big “Summer of Love” exhibit which showcased the posters, fashions and music of 1967. High art was non-existent at this exhibit. It was a sad homage to the rise of post-modernism.

    Jen in San Jose

    • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 12:53 pm #

      The “Summer of Love” was kicked off by the Monterey Pop Festival, arguably the most important musical festival in history (Sorry Woodstock). It was also the introduction of “Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band,” the album that launched the acid trip of the 1960’s. Here’s a bit of trivia: Sgt Pepper was Aleister Crowley.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 4:30 pm #

        The Book of the Law rejects pacifism: If a Man is a King you cannot hurt him. Compare this to Krishna’s “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor any of these Kings, nor is there any time in the future when we shall cease to be”.

        Can you explain why Sgt Pepper is Aleister Crowley? What is the symbolism that makes you say so? Or did the Beatles say as much themselves?

        • malthuss July 24, 2017 at 4:41 pm #

          HIS IMAGE IS ON THE COVER, BUT SO ARE MANY OTHER PEOPLES IMAGES.

        • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 9:34 pm #

          He died in 1947. “It was twenty years ago today, Sgt Pepper taught the band to play.” The Summer of love happened in 1967. I had a dream once where John Lennon and Paul McCartney were discussing Aleister Crowley. John Lennon said “He was the pepper they threw on the whole rotten lot of them.” To which Paul McCartney replied “Sgt Pepper.”

          • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 11:48 pm #

            Interesting. If you want another view, read Somerset Maugham’s novel “The Magician”. Maugham met Crowley a few times I believe and his character Oliver Haddo is based loosely on him.

            If memory serves, he was somewhat impressed with Crowley. A great boaster, yet he had done some of the things he boasted of – such as holding mountaineering records. And of course a brilliant conversationalist.

          • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 10:02 am #

            I got halfway through “Moonchild.” Crowley is not a bad writer, but the topic is inherently boring unless you have significant interest in the occult and magic. It’s like sitting in a room with a bunch of conservatives. You feel like a cookie in a pack of Oreos.

          • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 10:25 am #

            Jimmy Page bought Aleister Crowley’s home in Loch Ness.
            rollingstone.com/music/lists/the-10-wildest-led-zeppelin-legends-fact-checked-20121121/jimmy-page-on…

          • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 10:39 am #

            Aleister Crowley makes an appearance in Ernest Hemingway’ s posthumously released novel “A Movable Feast.” He’s in a coffe shop in Paris and someone says to him “Don’t you know who that is. It’s Aleister Crowley, the diabolist.”

        • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 9:52 pm #

          I think it’s a bit of an inability to translate. “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.” He advocated human sacrifice. But I am impressed you’ve read “The Book of the Law.” Look into how the numerology of 9/11 practically ID’s Crowley. I guess he could have left a urine sample.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 11:44 pm #

            No, he didn’t promote human sacrifice, at least as far as I understand him. He did love to shock and his talk about sacrificing male children of high intelligence (Book of Lies) meant ejaculation – a big deal in many Occult schools. But I admit he was dark in other ways and over all – and the people he attracts are often just as bad or worse.

            The Book of the Law is very beautiful. I can’t accept that Do what thou will can be the whole of the Law. It is invariably taken as license by the people attracted to Crowley’s teachings. On the other hand, some of the Saints have said similar: St Augustine said, Love, and then do as thou wilt. So a man can transcend the Law in the end, but Crowley makes that end the beginning. And that’s just no valid.

          • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 9:58 am #

            I’ve heard the immaculate ejaculation explanation before. It’s really meant to placate the masses who would be understandably shocked. What you have to understand is that the occult, magic, satanism whatever you want to call it, has at its very core, blood sacrifice for the express purpose of contacting demons.

          • malthuss July 25, 2017 at 11:41 am #

            Jimmy Page bought a bookstore and crowley memorabilia?

          • sophia July 25, 2017 at 11:50 am #

            That is one of the reasons I find all the blood sacrifice within Christianity so appalling.

        • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 9:58 pm #

          Jim Morrison giving credit to his mentor.

    • malthuss July 24, 2017 at 4:11 pm #

      youtube.com/watch?v=womg06G-p68&t=625s

  24. volodya July 24, 2017 at 11:49 am #

    The clueless elites are blissfully clueless about a lot of things, a large number of which were enunciated by Kunstler in this week’s commentary.

    But don’t just take Jim’s word for it. For independent confirmation look at Chuck’s floundering missive in the pages of the exalted New York Times. So Chuck and his cohorts finally clued into the abundantly obvious. A wee bit late, no?

    Superior education is what these people use to pull rank on the Deplorables. So Hillary got a degree at Wellesley College. Oh, and Yale. And Robbie Mook, Columbia. And John Podesta, Knox and Georgetown U. And Bill, Georgetown and Oxford!

    So what the fuck for? All that waste of time and money.

    And Chuck, my goodness me, scores a perfect 1600 on his SAT and then goes onto Harvard College. Not bad eh? Know what? His education would have been better had he just gone into his dad’s extermination business.

    All these self-admiring intellectuals and self-proclaimed “progressives”, with all these expensive diplomas that trumpet their superiority, missed out, fucked up totally. Matter of fact, they’ve been fucking up and losing for years now.

    Chuck sez in that column “we failed to communicate our values to show that we were on the side of the working people, not the special interests.” Makes me laugh. No Chuck, there was no mis-communication and no mis-understanding. You deplored and disdained American workers and you were on the side of the special interests and you communicated those values, in word and deed, just fine.

    • ozone July 24, 2017 at 12:11 pm #

      V.,
      So Chucky has proven the value of his family name* by proclaiming himself and his fellow travelers nothing more than failed propagandists? …In the “newspaper of record”, no less? Baaaahahahaha! Perfect. (I gotta read this piece of drivel for myself. Thanks, V.)

      * North German (Schümer): nickname from Middle Low German schumer ‘good-for-nothing’, ‘vagabond’.

      Madison Ave. advertising execs loosen their ties, massage their doughy faces and bark for a goodly 3 [pudgy] fingers of Scotch. …After which, they whisper despairingly to themselves, “Shit, that goddamn fuckwit Schumer has let the fucking giant, snarling cat right out of the fucking bag, and the big stinking pig out of the fucking poke at the same time! Shitshitshitshitshit!!”

      • Janos Skorenzy July 24, 2017 at 4:40 pm #

        Thank you Mr Ozone – or should I say Mr Crowley?

        • seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 9:54 pm #

          Mr Crowley Doo Doo Doo what went on in your head? Mr Crowley, did you talk to the dead?

    • ZrCrypDiK July 24, 2017 at 1:36 pm #

      “The clueless elites are blissfully clueless”

      Ask Chris Hedges about the elites he went to ‘elite’ school with – all they could do was talk about money, or how to make it – that’s it. Empty shells, total idiots.

      BTW, who’s Chuck? I took the ACT instead of SAT test back in ’85 – perfect math, English only 28… I did take the PSAT and nailed it!!! haha

    • beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 2:09 pm #

      Ya gotta remember that many of the greatest generation went to school on the GI bill, and got jobs they never would have gotten without that degree. My parents drilled it into me to get a college degree, and I never really had an emotional opportunity to do otherwise. Many boomers carried along that tradition with them and imparted it to their own children. It,s still going on today, albeit not too much longer.

    • HowardBeale July 24, 2017 at 5:18 pm #

      @Volodya,
      Your post, IMO, precisely sums up the plight of the vast majority of the “well educated”; i.e., they didn’t learn Socrate’s greatest advice (All I know is that I know nothing) until all their work was done, and it turned out to not only NOT have been a benefit to the good of Humankind, but a wash at best; more likely a despicable tour de force of destruction.

      You can pick just about any “leader” from any country for all time (Clintons for example), and you can pick out most ordinary Joes and Janes who have been involved in education, law, medicine, drug development, etc. etc.

      In the end, we are heading toward the End Times of civilization–and, perhaps, our species–due to the sum total of all those efforts: All for less than naught…

    • Henry July 25, 2017 at 3:51 pm #

      Yes,

      Because the primary purpose of the school system is to filter out people who are not obedient to institutional authority.

      School is best understood by the metaphor of training fleas:

      Training fleas was one of the favorite pass times of many aristocrats throughout history. They could make them do back flips and jump through hoops and other amazing things; so, how did they manage to train them?

      Well, first you have to get fleas to be still. How do you do that? Well, you place the fleas in a petri dish with the lid on and walk away for 3 hours or so. Trying to escape and pursue their own agenda, the fleas will keep jumping and hitting their heads on the lid. Once you come back after a few hours, you’ll see that many of the fleas will stop jumping/moving for fear of hurting themselves. Now that they are still, they are ready to be trained for whatever the master needs of them.

      The fleas that still insist on moving are now dizzy and injured from hitting their heads on the lid and thus are left unable to pursue their own lives effectively. They look inferior to the trained fleas because they’ve been broken down but not built up into something new.

      That is what the School system is!

      Chuck Schummer, Clinton and Obama are the fleas who most enthusiastically submitted to being trained for use by the system. In other words, they are the most obedient and ideologically conformist of us all so of course they’ll be “elites” who look down on their fellow fleas with contempt.

      Best Essay on the school system I’ve ever come accross if you’re interested:

      newciv.org/whole/schoolteacher.txt

  25. janet July 24, 2017 at 11:51 am #

    Bruce E: “It cannot possibly be because the game is set up unjustly to favor some people over others”

    Unjustly? After centuries of oppression, adding affirmative action to “the game” is not unjust. It is the proof we live in a great nation. Stop your whining, Bruce E. Unless you were referring to the new game that started recently by electing a billionaire clown who has appointed millionaires and Goldman Sachs alums to run things. But the many folks here are actively supporting that game.

    • Bruce E July 24, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

      Janet, either you are not reading my sarcasm/satire correctly or I am not reading yours correctly.

      • janet July 24, 2017 at 12:33 pm #

        Oh, I am sorry if I mistook you as a Trump supporter.

        • Bruce E July 24, 2017 at 12:46 pm #

          It’s a variant of Poe’s Law I guess, haha. 😉

        • benr July 25, 2017 at 11:13 am #

          Verses what a shill like Bernie paid off to keep his fat useless gob shut?
          New house new $100,000 dollar car and his corrupt wife getting slammed for bad land deals and corruption!
          Support a democrat you get corruption and endless debt.
          Support a Republican you get much of the same thing.
          Is Trump really any worse?
          Seriously step back from the propaganda for a minute and open your eyes.
          Have any of you driven through north east Los Angeles as of late?
          Trump is no worse or better and so far he has done nothing but repeal BAD executive orders.

    • libertysghost July 24, 2017 at 4:32 pm #

      Either way, your argument is lame whether you are a Trump supporter, not a Trump supporter, a “Trump hater” or even (as many here are actually) just a person who loved seeing both the Bush and Clinton dynasties die in the same election cycle via a “President Trump”. You and Bruce E seem to pretend there are only two options/reasons a person might vote for Trump: they are stupid or they are stupid. Oh wait…that’s just one. Oh well, no matter how either of you wax prophetic your disdain for Trump or anyone who hasn’t just accepted that he is OBVIOUSLY worse than the warmongering (literal and economic) establishment his opponent represented, your points are biasly flawed apparently out of necessity and your attempt at a point about “affirmative action” only reinforces this quality.

      “After centuries of oppression, adding affirmative action to “the game” is not unjust. It is the proof we live in a great nation.”

      Really? You do love government so despite the historical record apparently. It was IN FACT government that enforced racism for centuries in the United States. You know that right? Yet they get to pat themselves on the back fooooooor what exactly…pretending to fix policies and laws they themselves created and enforced while NEVER admitting their role in the whole “slavery” story either and instead blaming others “liberties” for the problems?

      You may have noticed that the “state’s” solution largely to social inequities it enforced through its monopoly on legitimized violence is to then take away freedoms and property of others to provide (a yet realized to this day despite decades of “trying” I’m sure) “affirmative action” to the downtrodden they created. How does that reality fit into your grand view of the history of “affirmative action”? When the federal government came into “save” African Americans from the “states” designating schools they then used the same broad interpretations of the laws to “federalize” a drug war that incarcerated and disenfranchised how many tens of millions of minority and poor Americans?

      But in your “statist” view…the “government’s” (not the corrupt people who seemingly always reside within its power centers) motives are always pure and anyone who questions that should, as you said so very thoughtfully and elegantly, and without any prejudice on your part whatsoever (or internal feelings of “victimization”),

      “Stop your whining”.

      Bruce E may fall for that. Not me.

      • janet July 24, 2017 at 7:45 pm #

        Lots of people did vote for Trump, not because of issues but because he seemed the best way to say “fuck you” to politicians.

        Surprise! Trump turns out to be a politician who fooled people into voting for him because he supposedly wasn’t “politically correct, then proceeded to fill the swamp, continuing the same game by appointing millionaires and Goldman Sachs alums to run things. You were conned again. We would have been better off with Hillary.

        • benr July 25, 2017 at 11:18 am #

          Hell no you’re on Drugs.
          Not one thing Hillary stands for is decent just ask the people of Haiti.
          Just mention the name Clinton to anyone in Haiti or better yet wear one of her old campaign shirts around you probably won’t survive the experience.

  26. Ishabaka July 24, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

    It’s the end of the world as we know it.

  27. Bro Jobe July 24, 2017 at 12:49 pm #

    “they can certainly destroy the value of that money and shred the consensual confidence that allows it to operate as money.”

    Very well said. I suppose we all have something that keeps us awake at night; for me, it’s the house-of-cards of contemporary economics. We are running on trust alone.

    When the trust is gone, as it would go in a default, we’d see hyperinflation, the dumping of US bonds by governments and private companies, then a collapse so profound that it will dwarf the Great Depression. That would result in martial law; there’s no smiling FDR around to hold things together by any means possible.

    I’m not like JHK, who thinks we’ll slip into the Dark Ages. I suspect we are in for a more violent version of the 1930s and then a crackdown on “agitators” by what JHK calls The Deep State.

    When that happens, my trips in late ’08 to empty Home Depot stores to buy some appliances on the cheap will look like the picnics they were. That preview of a Crash was creepy enough: the employees were scared, as if they were just waiting for the looters to arrive. I felt like a paying looter, because I could actually haggle for what I wanted, it was so bad!

    At doomed Sears, where I got some really good deals, I was the ONLY customer in the store on one weeknight. I suspect that will be 2018, minus Sears which I expect to be gone. Our last local store is soon to close, and lots of other retail is on the ropes because of Amazon and other online merchants.

    • Billy Hill July 24, 2017 at 3:07 pm #

      Online sales as per cent of total retail as of 1-1-17 per Fed Reserve of St Louis: 8.5%.

      But the trend is clear.

      Add household formation (lack thereof) and secular shifts in consumption (the end of “stuff”). As well as stupidity and lack of market depth research in retail construction over the past 15-20 years.

      Re “department” stores is there any rational explanation for a Macy’s, Penney’s, Sears, and fill in the blank with your regional retailer __________ under one mall roof? They all sell the same designer stuff — The same little guy on horseback swinging a mallet. The same spooky female employees selling the same cosmetics.

      It’s over.

    • malthuss July 24, 2017 at 4:38 pm #

      Our last local store is soon to close, and lots of other retail is on the ropes because of Amazon and other online merchants.

      You tube-X 22 Report.

      He disagrees with yr reason.

      ITS THE ECONOMY, NOT AMAZON.

  28. seawolf77 July 24, 2017 at 1:36 pm #

    Oh Janos wherefore art thou?

  29. volodya July 24, 2017 at 1:45 pm #

    Mr Ozone, that’s right, failed propagandists as amply demonstrated by their loss of approximately 1,000 legislative seats in the past eight years or so.

    There’s an old Russian story about a farmer who lived on the freezing steppes. He was out one particularly cold day and saw a bird in some distress apparently because of the extreme temperature. So he picked up the bird and put it atop a steaming pile of freshly dumped cow dung. After a few minutes, revived by the warmth of the droppings and feeling better, the bird began to chirp. A passing fox heard the chirps and picked the bird out of the plop and ate it.

    The moral of the story is that the person that gets you in shit is not necessarily your enemy, the one that gets you out of shit is not necessarily your friend and, when you’re in shit, shut up.

    The country’s elites, Republican and Democrat alike, who are pretty much unseeing, unknowing, witless and clueless about the great matters of the day, are in shit. As the story tells us, the first thing to do when you find you’re in shit is shut up. You know, to take stock, size things up, think your way through things. Yet, as illustrated by Chuck, they keep talking.

    Mr Ozone, are you going to tell them? I won’t if you won’t.

    • ozone July 24, 2017 at 4:39 pm #

      V.,
      Not that “they” would listen to a mook like me anyhoo (should I run across their high-altitude paths), but no, I’ll never tell… 😉

  30. PostPeakRancher July 24, 2017 at 3:41 pm #

    One of your best posts in a while Jim. It will be interesting and scary to see how the debt ceiling shenanigans and debate play out in the (very, very) near future.

    PPR

  31. Walter B July 24, 2017 at 4:31 pm #

    The Value of Everything, how appropriate a subject James, for a society that has completely forgotten WTF “value” even is anymore. How long can those who control continue to lead the Lemming Hearted Hoard ever closer to the shore before the idiots actually wake the fuck up and see the vertical drop ahead of them? once they step off and acquire terminal velocity perhaps? Maybe not even then for they can still be cajoled into believing it is part of the entertainment like some giant bungee jump without rubber bands. One thing is for sure though my friend, if and when the dimwits ever do regain consciousness they will simply strike out at the first and closest object or person available at the time. There will be NO marches to DC or to State capitols, or even to their own Town Halls, they will simply take it out on the person next to them or next door for after all, stupid AND lazy continues to be the rule of the day. It should be an interesting Fall, yuk, yuk…….

  32. pequiste July 24, 2017 at 5:13 pm #

    I hope it is not too late to find some great, high visibility and traffic count commercial locations for two brand-spanking-new Tumbrel dealerships.

    Potomac waterfront in Alexandria, Va., and perhaps Washington Square Park, (or maybe Grand Army Plaza, Central Park South) Manhattan, N.Y.C. would be ideal.

    • ozone July 25, 2017 at 9:08 am #

      pequiste,
      Oooooo, those self-driving, electric Tumbrels in the designer colors? The ones that Elon Musk financed with tax-payer money? Coooool! (Here’s hoping Musky finds himself riding in leather-lined comfort to a pre-programmed ‘extreme haircut’ location in one of these beauties some fateful day.)

  33. 100th Avatar July 24, 2017 at 5:13 pm #

    EXCELLENT post this week.

    “But the places they are supposed to call home are either wrecked — the original small towns and cities of America — or replaced by new “developments” so devoid of artistry, history, thought, care, and charm that they don’t add up to communities, and are so obviously unworthy of affection, that the very idea of “home” becomes a cruel joke.

    In other words, the entire US is becoming misery, uh, Missouri.

    “The effect of this dynamic relationship so far has been powerfully soporific. You can deprive people of a true home for a while, and give them virtual friends on TV to project their emotions onto, and arrange to give them cars via some financing scam or other to keep them moving mindlessly around an utterly desecrated landscape under the false impression that they’re going somewhere — but we’re now at the point where ordinary people can’t even carry the costs of keeping themselves hostage to these degrading conditions.”

    Priorities, priorities: Store-by-four, smart phone, WiFi service, flat screen, tattoo-fund, beer/pot/Fentanyl, hamburger-helper.

  34. Pucker July 24, 2017 at 7:48 pm #

    Kamala Harris: “The difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is that the Republicans think that Healthcare is a privilege. The Democrats think that Healthcare is a Right.”

    I’m now reading “The Gods of Eden” recommended by a friend. There’s a free copy online: whale.to/c/Gods_of_Eden_Bramley.pdf The author, William Bramley, basically says that the Earth is an asset and colony of a larger Alien race of beings who rule over humans as slaves used to serve them. There’s an intermediate leadership priest caste of secret societies and religions that have their origins in ancient Egypt. Bramley implies that modern humans are genetically manipulated beings created by the Aliens who didn’t want to do the work and be the lowest shmucks in the hierarchy. Bramley says that the Alien masters are largely malevolent and dominate the slaves by keeping the slaves in material need and a constant state of war. Bramley quotes Machiavelli.

    • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 10:53 am #

      HG Wells took 7 years to write “The Time Machine.” That’s the book where the Morlocks, who live underground, require a certain number of people every month. For that people of earth get to live a carefree life where no one works and everyone has a good time. In the end we find out the Morlocks eat us. When you think about it, it is the only answer to why Earth exists as it does, where it does, how it does. This planet was engineered and you would only do that for one of three reasons 1) To create a domicile 2) To create a food source 3) Both. I think it’s both.I mean what is heaven. It’s the moon.

    • malthuss July 25, 2017 at 11:39 am #

      LINDA MOULTON HOWE, AND SHE SELLS STUFF AT HER SITE.

    • DA July 25, 2017 at 12:18 pm #

      Thanks for that link. Looks like an entertaining and perhaps enlightening read.

      • DA July 25, 2017 at 3:06 pm #

        Great read so far!

      • DA July 25, 2017 at 6:15 pm #

        Whether or not you buy into the basic thesis of Bramley’s book, it’s well worth the read for the religious history alone. Amazing! I’m about 3/4 of the way through it already.

    • sophia July 25, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

      That truly does sound like as good an explanation for this hell hole as any. Supposedly, Darwin noted that humans appear to be a domesticated species. There are the several obvious breeds, and also, just like dogs and other domesticated species, certain breeds have differing temperaments. Into all of us they bred subservience.

  35. BackRowHeckler July 24, 2017 at 8:39 pm #

    I wonder if anybody in the Vineyard is reading this blog, Jim?

    Warm sea breeze blowing in from the south, yachts bobbing in Edgartown Harbor, sun setting into the sea looking west, at this moment enjoying a pre dinner scotch on the patio of the 14 room cottage. Time to dress for dinner, the Obamas are jetting in later tonight, John Kerry is holding court down at the Black Dog Tavern, George Soros boat big as a destroyer due in tomorrow. Clambake and lobsters at the Clintons tomorrow, where the subject du jour is impeachment of the President. All agree that he will be impeached, its just a matter of time. Meanwhile we will be enjoying the rest of the summer.

    Life is good here on the Vineyard.

    brh

    • janet July 24, 2017 at 8:58 pm #

      It is a great country! Enjoy the fine company!

    • pequiste July 24, 2017 at 9:41 pm #

      There once was a man from Nantucket……..
      That other place for “Those People.”

      Let’s not fail to mention those patricians summering on Chappaquiddick Island; you remember Ted “And when I returned, Mary Jo and the car were gone”Kennedy’s favourite happy hunting grounds.

      Rare-earth magnets for the very well connected (and yet ironically disconnected – from concrete actuality – as JHK points out so well – at the same time.)

    • MrTibbs July 24, 2017 at 10:13 pm #

      The “Weekend at Bernie’s” crowd, enjoying the last vestiges of the accoutrements of privilege acquired by theft, deception, greed, and corruption.

      -T

      They Call Me Mr. Tibbs.

    • Walter B July 24, 2017 at 11:26 pm #

      Those who advance Empire always, and I mean ALWAYS buy into their own delusions of grandeur to the point where they feel so insulated, so superior, so infallible that complete annihilation simply HAS to happen to them for karma’s sake if nothing else. THEY will not suffer a bloody retreat from Kabul, THEY will not freeze in the sub-zero steppes around Stalingrad for THEY are far better and have much improved “technologies” to guarantee their ascension to man-godhood! Yeah, THEY will succeed where all others failed before them because THEY have received trophies!

      Americans may lack the patience to wait for the Caligula’s, the Bonaparte’s and the Hitler’s of today to poison themselves before they blow their brains out and are doused and burned by their minions, but it shall happen nonetheless. Nature abhors a vacuum and cannot stand self-serving cocky assholes. They shall reap what they sow, it is certain. Self indulgence is severely overrated and carries with it consequences that no one wants to pay once they realize the true cost. Too late!

      • sophia July 25, 2017 at 1:03 pm #

        What if those elites are also being used, also expendable, being used by the dark forces for whom they are merely the go-betweens? (see above) And when they get their heads chopped off, its intermission time and then it starts all over again.

        • Walter B July 25, 2017 at 4:37 pm #

          Absolutely the way it is Sophia and the way it always has been. It is bewildering that it is allowed to repeat over and over without end. Perhaps someday it WILL stop and whatever follows must surely be a vast improvement. At least that is what we can hope for.

          • sophia July 25, 2017 at 5:21 pm #

            You do understand I was talking of demonic entities?
            What would make it stop?

        • Walter B July 25, 2017 at 5:49 pm #

          There is only one thing that can make it stop sophie, and that is detailed in the Book of Revelation.

          • sophia July 25, 2017 at 8:32 pm #

            Hoo boy. Don’t believe that. You see, I think those demonic entities have convinced Christians that they don’t have to achieve spiritual maturity but will have it all done for them. That doesn’t make sense. What’s the point of all this struggle if we don’t have to overcome? One of the biggest problems the human race has is gullibility due to lack of much inner conviction about much of anything, including right and wrong. (Check out Isaiah 5:20, “woe unto those who call evil good and good evil, who put light for darkness and darkness for light…”)

            Now, I am not disagreeing with grace or the need for help from God, but I think you’ve got to say yes all the way of your own free will. Again, I just don’t see the use in saying we are hopeless and only God can govern us. If that is the case, we can’t live in heaven. Heaven is for those who are trustworthy. Otherwise, it means that God will have to be the playground monitor and blow his whistle for all eternity.

  36. janet July 24, 2017 at 8:55 pm #

    Ya gotta remember that many of the greatest generation went to school on the GI bill, and got jobs they never would have gotten without that degree. Beantown

    Excellent point! The GI Bill is a good example of how big government helps people. Reagan was wrong. “I’m from the government and I’m here to help” is true. Big government is another factor that made America great in the 50s. America is great today. America never stopped being great. It became greater after the civil rights, voter rights, and immigration legislation of 1964-1965.

    • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 9:34 am #

      Exactly. And every one of those guys who had their college education paid for by the government is a dyed in the wool conservative that would begrudge an acorn to a squirrel. They feel like they earned it through combat. Baloney. In large measure the success they had was due to the government. This is the mark of the “Worst Generation.” It’s their calling card. No they didn’t win World War 2, although if you watch the movie “Patton” you sure as hell think we did. And that generation gave us Vietnam. For that alone all good will evaporated. Now they want us to pay their health care costs ad infinitum. No limits. If treatment cost a $1,000,000 for another month of exceedingly low quality of life, pay it. Do they realize the good that $1,000,000 could do for ten kids needing money for college? You could create 10 wonderful lives or you can keep a mummy alive another month.

  37. nsa July 24, 2017 at 9:02 pm #

    Forty three vile traitorous US Knesset senators are supporting a bill to make it a federal crime (felony) for anyone residing in the US to support the BDS movement. Proposed penalties: a minimum fine of $250,000 to a maximum fine of $1,000,000 and up to 20 years in prison. Welcome to government of the jooies, by the jooies, for the jooies…….

    • beantownbill. July 24, 2017 at 10:53 pm #

      You are another wacko.

      • ZrCrypDiK July 24, 2017 at 11:27 pm #

        Yes, *INDEEDY* david!!! Not U, tho.

      • JimInFlorida July 25, 2017 at 7:23 am #

        Prove him wrong, bean. You can’t.

        All you can do is throw out “wacko” against anybody who refuses to bow to, “Those Who May Not Be Criticized.”

        • malthuss July 25, 2017 at 11:37 am #

          BS Bill can dish it out but can t take it.
          His ‘Im rubber, you are glue’ stuff gets tiresome, fast.

          AND YOU JIMMY R A HOMO.

          • beantownbill. July 25, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

            I don’t take any “it”, whatever “it” is. I also don’t take any shit from anyone. You, Malthuss, are seriously deficient in brain power, to the extent you cannot even recognize when you are making a fool of yourself.

          • JimInFlorida July 25, 2017 at 1:22 pm #

            A HOMO??? Where did that come from?
            BTW, I expect better quality insults than that.

        • beantownbill. July 25, 2017 at 12:17 pm #

          I don’t have to prove the obvious. Speaking of which, you are obviously twisted.

    • S M Tenneshaw July 24, 2017 at 11:38 pm #

      Good.

    • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 9:28 am #

      Israel are like Catholic priests used to be in this country: Untouchable.

    • benr July 25, 2017 at 11:43 am #

      And yet if you actually meet some people now calling themselves Palestinians you quickly realize that all the traits people like you heap upon das Joos as bad the Palestinians not only embrace but double down on.
      Quick I hear Storm-front has new page to read get on over there!
      Hey how about meeting some of the Chinese now invading all over the world same thing.
      What you attribute as bad might just be a human failing and not one of a certain blood line or faith.
      Get it?
      smh

      • sophia July 25, 2017 at 1:11 pm #

        That doesn’t mean you don’t fight it.

  38. djc July 24, 2017 at 9:06 pm #

    This is truly the most prescient posting Jim has ever made. I don’t always agree with everything written here but it is actually very true that the populace outside of the coastal bubbles have not a clue about what could befall them if things collapse.

    Not. A. Clue.

    • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 10:45 am #

      No one does. JHK has made a decent living speculating, but he doesn’t know any more than you or I do.

  39. FincaInTheMountains July 24, 2017 at 9:44 pm #

    American Heresy, Anti-Russian Sanctions and the Movie “Kill Bill”

    Donald Trump, The President of the United States, in his address to the Congress said that all nations and peoples of the Earth were created by one God.

    This part of the message was the answer to Hillary Clinton’s answer to the main slogan of Donald Trump’s election campaign “Let’s make America Great Again”. This answer Hillary Clinton sounded like this:

    “In the end, it comes down to what Donald Trump does not get: that America is great because America is good”.

    At first glance this phrase is a neutered quote from Alexis de Tocqueville “America is great because it is good. America is great because it is turned to Good, but if it turns away from Good, it will cease to be great. ”

    The problem is that Alexis de Tocqueville never said this phrase, but it always pops up in the speeches of American politicians precisely in this context, since a similar phrase is a well-known ritual password of one of the esoteric community, of which Alexis de Tocqueville and Hillary Clinton and both George Bushes and even the great Russian writer Lev Tolstoy were members of:

    – The question: “We are great because we are good?”
    – The answer: “We are good because we are great!”

    Firstly, this password is a formula of the Cold War, since Alexis de Tocqueville not only wrote “Democracy in America”, which in the opinion of members of this sect is the best book about Democracy and about America, but also articulated in it the historiosophy of “American exceptionalism” that Joseph Stalin, who received an excellent theological education, described it as an “American heresy.”

    In connection with the concept of the Cold War, I would like to note that Alexis de Tocqueville as early as 1850, that is, on the eve of the Crimean War predicted global rivalry between Russia and the United States, and his heresy and password formed the basis for the concept of the “Empire of Evil” that Ronald Reagan expressed in Congress of the Evangelical Churches of the United States.

    Fortunately, the great American film director Quentin Tarantino conducted the ideological, and perhaps theological, analysis of this heresy, and one can only regret that some morons like Marat Gelman in Russia are writing about some really great American art, they do not understand anything about what they are writing about. The fact is that the connection to Greatness and Goodness is a reflection of the Manichaean concept of genetic belonging to Goodness and to Greatness by virtue of birth, and not because of the phenotype – individual development, of which the experience of spiritual life is a part.

    According to this concept it is impossible to become Good and Great, you must be born that way, and the main sign of such Greatness and such Goodness is the right to kill with impunity.

    This is the main theme of Tarantino’s “Kill Bill” – it’s enough to recall the last scene in which David Carradine explains to Uma Thurman that the ability to kill is the duty to kill, because people are not only divided into two biologically different species, but also created by different gods, and Uma Thurman trying to become a working bee still remained a killer-bee – she simply betrayed her biological species and was punished for this betrayal.

    Kill Bill vol 2 Superman monologue:
    youtube.com/watch?v=eWTJIBGNId0

    Naturally, Russia, the peaceful peasants of which time and again reel up on their bayonets and on the caterpillars of their tanks the guts of the best Western killers, in this context simply has no right to exist.

    It was against this that Donald Trump quite deliberately has spoken, saying that all people and all nations are created by the same God, since the ideological legacy of Alexis de Tocqueville is the basis of the so-called moral superiority of American politics, in which he is accused by the Clintonoids of misunderstanding and even denial.

    According to this concept, the American missiles in Turkey, and now in Poland and Romania are not aggression against the USSR or Russia, but Soviet missiles in Cuba or military aid to the People’s Republics of Donbass are aggression against the US.

    And President Kennedy, removing the missiles from Turkey, betrayed America, the Good and Great, just as Uma Thurman betrayed her nation of natural born killers, trying to become an ordinary woman and a mother.

    The latter is especially important, since it is the desire to give birth to a child in the White and Red Projects that symbolizes the birth of the New World, in which the Black Project will be plunged into the place where the dragon that chases woman and mother belongs.

  40. elysianfield July 24, 2017 at 10:28 pm #

    Well, ladies and Germs;

    The BBC site, this PM, is reporting that the US is considering sending…weapons to (the) Ukraine…so that Ukraine may be able to kill Russian “rebels”.

    I am devastated…I have nothing to say….

    • JimInFlorida July 25, 2017 at 7:33 am #

      There’s plenty to say.

      Putin and Lavrov will have to stop with the conciliatory attempts to treat ZOG-U.S. as a “partner” and start treating us as the malignant imperial cancer we are.

      Putin should have learned the art of Color Revolutions by now. He should start agitating the eastern oblasts of Ukraine to demand secession from Kiev and that these entities be restored to Moscow via the old Soviet relationship.

      Moscow has half-heartedly supported the Russians in eastern Ukraine through a middleman country, Belarus. If the U.S is openly going in to start trouble, then Russia can directly enter and protect its interests.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 25, 2017 at 8:29 am #

        Moscow has half-heartedly supported the Russians in eastern Ukraine through a middleman country, Belarus.

        Americans… Never learn geography!

        If you wanna rule the world, at least buy yourself a decent size globus.

        • JimInFlorida July 25, 2017 at 1:15 pm #

          What are you talking about, Finc? Where’s YOUR geography?

          Belarus BORDERS Ukraine!

          Now, how Russian aid gets from Belarus to the Russians in eastern Ukraine is Putin’s problem. Belarus is a convenient middleman for that agenda.

          • FincaInTheMountains July 25, 2017 at 1:18 pm #

            Belarus BORDERS Ukraine!

            So does Russia, especially by the Donbass border.

          • JimInFlorida July 25, 2017 at 6:11 pm #

            Finc, I know Russia is closer to the Donbass region and related Russian population groups.

            BUT, I’m talking about LAUNDERING that aid. To me, it looks like Putin once figured that Russian aid should be sent through a middleman, like Belarus, and NOT be sent DIRECTLY to eastern Ukrainian separatists. A reasonable chess move at the time but, the pieces have changed position since then.

            I’m saying that such appearances are useless now because the U.S. State Dept is allegedly going to send stuff directly to Kiev. That means Moscow should do the same and even make a decisive claim on eastern Ukraine.

            AS I said earlier, it’s time to give Washington a taste of its own Color Revolution medicine. Peel off the eastern oblasts in response to popular demand and make them protectorates of Moscow. If Putin plays it right, he’ll have the U.N. behind him. He’ll even convince the E.U. that he is right and the U.S. has NO BUSINESS being in Ukraine at all.

          • FincaInTheMountains July 25, 2017 at 6:50 pm #

            Nobody is laundering nothing at this point, nobody gives a shit anymore.

            Belarus, if anything, is playing along with Kiev regime.

          • JimInFlorida July 26, 2017 at 8:49 am #

            Minsk is with Kiev? Things have changed, indeed.

            So be it. Putin will have to go directly to the Russians in eastern Ukraine and try his hand at pulling off a U.S-style Color Revolution.

  41. Pucker July 24, 2017 at 10:45 pm #

    “Architecture is an important art that shapes the physical landscape of a society. One can tell a great deal about the state of a civilization by looking at the buildings it erects.” “The Gods of Eden”, William Bramley.

    “But the places they are supposed to call home are either wrecked — the original small towns and cities of America — or replaced by new “developments” so devoid of artistry, history, thought, care, and charm that they don’t add up to communities, and are so obviously unworthy of affection, that the very idea of “home” becomes a cruel joke.”

  42. FincaInTheMountains July 25, 2017 at 5:51 am #

    America is boiling, and so far no one understands why

    For example, John Dickerson – the leading anchor of the “Face the Nation” on CBS began his story about Senator McCain from the crash on the aircraft carrier Forrestal, which killed 134 American sailors and sent the aircraft carrier to scrap.

    And he did this in such a way that some American sailors I know said that it was already dancing on the bones and that McCain is certainly a bastard, but you can not do that….

    And of course I know that according to Army documents it was McCain who fired a missile while on the deck of an aircraft carrier, which was the actual cause of the disaster, and John Dickerson hints at this, but the rest of the program was not understood by me and I believe that the whole broadcast was devoted to McCain’s numerous crimes.

    youtube.com/watch?v=gPjOzzPgwA0

    • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 10:43 am #

      McCain is the worst naval combat aviator in the history of the navy. He has crashed 5 planes. He is the antithesis of what he represents. For once, I am kind of with Trump on this one. He is not a war hero.

  43. FincaInTheMountains July 25, 2017 at 6:29 am #

    Why the Russian women are the most beautiful in the world

    Why?

    And you compare the history of the United States and the history of Russia.

    On the left – American women during the Second World War, on the right – Russian woman.

    ic.pics.livejournal.com/miss_tramell/25587933/2254889/2254889_original.jpg

    The whole 20 century Russia spent in wars. Men were mowed down; many of the survivors went drunk. Women, nevertheless, had to give birth, continue their kind. The competition for men was huge.

    If men in the US lured women, in Russia – on the contrary. And the reason for this is not the debauchery of Russian women, but the strongest demographic distortion, which has long since ended in reality, but still stays firmly in the mind, passed from generation to generation.

    Because of that the Russian women carefully take care of their appearances, and on the street without make-up do not go. And, as a consequence of all this, they look more attractive than many American and European women.

    • JimInFlorida July 25, 2017 at 7:47 am #

      American women are just disgusting beasts. Not even as porn objects. Most good porn features eastern European women.

      MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) is the only salvation for straight men in the West. MGTOW is the one thing men of all races can agree on.

      I’m sure janet is shocked that I would promote something that happens to be inclusive and race neutral.

      • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 9:15 am #

        They’re disgusting beasts because in America conservatives rule. Providing muscle for women is the primary role of a man in conservative society. If there is a fight, and people get arrested, and it goes to court, as soon as it is clear it was a man backing up a woman and another man refusing to bow to that woman, case is thrown out. The man gets away with starting a fight and assaulting someone, because he did it for a woman. I lived next door to some people in Louisiana and the woman’s sister had divorced her husband and then one day took a pistol, went back to his house, and shot him. All they ever told me was he was a real asshole, beat her, that kind of stuff. She didn’t spend a single day behind bars. If you’re in business and you’re not a conservative, your business will fail miserable because word will go out “He’s not good people.” End of story. Conservatives shape reality with ideology. Ultimately those places became Ground Zero Trumpland. Janosville. IOW Disgusting. I used to intervene when I saw a woman in trouble or need. Not any more. No way, no how. Let em burn is my motto.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 25, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

          Meanwhile, Blue (should be Red for Communism) America applauds parents who queer their children and turn their daughters into sluts.

          dailystormer.com/liev-schreibers-8-year-old-son-goes-out-in-make-up-pigtails-and-fishnet-stockings-m…

          • JimInFlorida July 25, 2017 at 6:20 pm #

            Well, it didn’t take long to smoke out Liev’s ancestry. It explains everything.

          • S M Tenneshaw July 25, 2017 at 6:59 pm #

            You need to dial back on that Daily Dorker fashporn. Otherwise yer jagoff arm will fall off.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 25, 2017 at 7:42 pm #

            What a fag thing to say, Tenny. Guess you have no real comeback other than fag insults.

            So you think this is a good thing, then (trying to rerail the conversation)?

          • S M Tenneshaw July 25, 2017 at 9:33 pm #

            Wuzn’t no discussion goin’ on nohow.

            Fag.

  44. janet July 25, 2017 at 8:46 am #

    “I’m sure janet is shocked…” –jim

    I am shocked that Trump is continuing his con. Today he promised BCRA or Trumpcare would “significantly lower premiums” and “stabilize the insurance market.” He shared horror stories of families who had relied on the Affordable Care Act for coverage but ultimately liquidated a 401(k) retirement account in order to cover their large deductibles.

    The truth, however, is that the Senate bill will not lower premiums for many people. For low-income Americans, in particular, premiums could rise by as much as 700 percent. Nonpartisan analysis from the Congressional Budget Office estimates that the Senate bill would destabilize the individual market. And those plans with large deductibles? They would become more common should Trumpcare become law.

  45. janet July 25, 2017 at 8:48 am #

    Bye bye, Rex. Go back to Exxon.

    • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 9:20 am #

      You have to be mentally challenged to even think about working in the Trump administration. It’d be like working for a gigantic ass and your job 24/7 was to press your lips as firmly as possible on it. Anal osculation.

  46. janet July 25, 2017 at 9:18 am #

    Trump is tweeting about Hillary’s emails! LOL!

    HRC holds no position but anytime she wants she can send Trump into apoplectic fits. He can’t quit her. She is powerful. He is weak and insecure. That’s why he demands loyalty from everyone… even boy scouts! Weak.

    • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 9:21 am #

      Look at the new guy Scarmucci. He said love like 13 times his first time out. LOVE! It’s insane.

  47. liber8tor July 25, 2017 at 9:26 am #

    Eventually, the Kardashian loving, Facebook-addicted masses will get tired of being cold and hungry and will rise up. But not until their tattoos start to fade and the cell phones quit working.

  48. janet July 25, 2017 at 9:27 am #

    Trump supports Putin arming the Taliban. That’s why the Trump puppet won’t sign off on the Afghanistan plan… his puppetmaster Putin hasn’t given the OK.

    It is Putin and Trump against America. This is good news for the Taliban … and North Korea … and Iran … and all of Putin’s anti-America allies, including Trump. Today Trump is trying to take health insurance away from 32 million Americans. Putin is well-pleased with his puppet.

    • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 9:51 am #

      That will become the signature moment of the 2016 election, like “There you go again” and “Poland will never be dominated by the USSR in a Ford administration.”
      “Vladimir Putin has no respect for this woman. None”
      “That’s because he’d rather have a puppet.”
      “No puppet. No puppet. You’re the puppet. You’re the puppet.”

    • JimInFlorida July 25, 2017 at 6:26 pm #

      I would MUCH rather Trump be a puppet of Putin than a puppet of Netanyahu!

      I’m sure Trump is already a puppet of Israel but, at least he has options with Putin and Trump needs to maximize those opportunities every chance he gets.

  49. FincaInTheMountains July 25, 2017 at 10:56 am #

    Trump supports Putin arming the Taliban.

    For Russia Taliban is better than NATO – at least Taliban curbed the opium flow to Russia, NATO is cultivating it,

  50. volodya July 25, 2017 at 11:09 am #

    Yes, it does seem that Chuck saw the blinding Light of Revelation. And the Light did speak to Chuck. What the Light said exactly, Chuck didn’t specify. But, the Light did tell him something because, like the newly converted who previously saw the world as though through a glass darkly, Chuck’s speech and demeanor changed.

    Yes, Hallelujah and Praise Be, he can see now what he didn’t see before, that people need to earn a living. So he sez.

    Do you believe Chuck? I don’t. Chuck, like his fellow Democrats, remains in thrall to the billionaire donor class. His speeches will use terms like “inequality”. But Chuck will skirt the real problems because he doesn’t know about the real problems and if he knows, then he doesn’t care.

    What’s the real problem that Chuck doesn’t give a shit about? Drum roll please…… the fact that men can no longer earn enough to support a wife and family like their daddies did. That’s because the jobs their daddies did are now in China and Mexico. THAT’S the problem, that’s the problem from which a multitude of other ills stem.

    Does Chuck care? Nope. Do the Democrats? Nope. It’s like JHK sez, cluelessness. But it goes beyond cluelessness, it’s don’t-give-a-damnedness.

    The Democrats have been swinging the same dead-cat talking points for decades now and they won’t put the carcass down anytime soon. No, sadly, Chuck’s sudden conversion was fake. And even if it was real, like the conversion of that nice Jewish boy 2,000 years ago on the road to Damascus, it won’t matter. The liberal leopard won’t change its institutional spots.

  51. capt spaulding July 25, 2017 at 11:34 am #

    It’s not just the Democrats who are responsible for the mess we’re in, the Republicans are equally responsible. Both parties are bought & paid for.

    • volodya July 25, 2017 at 12:05 pm #

      The contention among Republicans is that the Democrats won the cultural arguments ie the culture wars. But Republicans don’t give themselves enough credit because Republicans won the economic argument. Thus, what we call “globalism”. The Democrats signed on and gave it the sheen of virtue and enlightenment – open borders, free movement of people and money, comfort with change and new people and new customs. You’ve heard it all. And they look down on people that say “but” as if they’re inferior beings with unworthy interests and aims.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 25, 2017 at 3:08 pm #

        Are these terms really useful? Hillary was an ardent Globalist – and was one ever since college or even before. That’s what Marxist Communism is – an earlier school of Globalism with many active “fight clubs”.

        Islam is a very old school of Globalism. The alliance between the Left and Islam is thus explained. Capitalism is with them too, as late stage Capitalism is a Globalism as well. That explains their alliance with the Soviet Union against National Socialism.

        Now the fight begins again. And still you are not with us! Traditional American Nationalism is compromised at its very source since it refuses to see that Capitalism in an enemy force now. We’re the only real game in town at this point.

        • volodya July 25, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

          You’re right, I’m not with you. National Socialism had its day. It was a product of a time and place. It’s done. This is a different place with different historical currents. What takes the place of today’s ruling classes and ideologies will be different.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 25, 2017 at 7:40 pm #

            American National Socialism, not German. It’s never been tried here. Worked like a charm in Germany though – that’s why the Bankers had to kill it.

        • volodya July 25, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

          And yes the terms are useful because today’s globalism for all its surrounding self-admiring and self congratulatory fluffery has as its aim the exploitation of slave wage labor in shit-hole despotisms, pure and simple.

  52. volodya July 25, 2017 at 11:58 am #

    The Republicans got quite a fright didn’t they? At the last election they opened the conservative sarcophagus to disinter their mummified ideology and what do they find? This horrible orange thing staring back up at them.

    The lurching orange beast somehow got into the crypt and threw the pieces all over. Such a mess. And so what we see is the GOP desperately trying to stitch the parts back together, the intent being to put a suit and hat on it and cart it about the country the way they always have.

    But can it be done? The twenty eighteens are coming. The Republican Party, even if there is such a thing anymore especially after the Nov 8 nakba, isn’t so good at co-operating. You can see that in their debacular handling of the healthcare file with the various parts of the conservative mummy in the jealous possession of different factions and the AMA and insurance priesthoods carrying about this bone and that. Plus you have black-garbed exorcists of the AARP muttering behind the curtains. Is there any power on earth that can put this disjointed thing back together?

  53. FincaInTheMountains July 25, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

    The Trump’s strategic offensive began on 19th of July with an interview to the New York Times, in which he accused of betrayal the Senator who first supported him during the primaries of 2016, but after becoming Attorney General decided to stand above the fight and refused to lead the investigation of Trump’s election campaign relations with Russian ambassador Kislyak.

    And he also noted in this interview the lack of partiality of a prominent member of the Congressional Intelligence Committee and no less prominent Clintonoid Adam Schiff, who is investigating the RussiaGate and on Monday, July 24, compared Schiff with a slug on a Twitter.

    And a few hours after the demarche, rumors leaked to the press that Trump would not sign a bill on sanctions imposed on Russia and wants Sessions to resign, and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani became the Attorney General instead. Obviously, these rumors flowed at the will of Trump himself, since the AG Sessions, appointed by him, is in the same bottle with Congressman Schiff, and all this happens when the special prosecutor Mueller, after several months of investigation based on unlawful leaks, organized precisely with this goal in mind by the FBI director Comey, did not find anything confirming these charges and wants to expand the investigation, first looking at Trump’s personal finances.

    There is no doubt that Trump’s activity is due to the fact that the anti-Russian bill, on which Congress votes today, is actually anti-Trump, and he went into a frontal attack on the Clintonoids and Hillary personally, because if he succeeds, the results of the investigation will make this law a direct consequence of criminal acts by Hillary Clinton, and those who agreed on Friday to ignore Trump’s wishes and put on his desk an anti-Russian law turned anti-Trump law, will be able to fully appreciate the Russian proverb: Do not dig the hole to another – you’ll get into it yourself

    • seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 1:54 pm #

      Trump doesn’t know the first rule of holes “When you’re in one stop digging.”

  54. volodya July 25, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

    What boggles my mind in all this Russia meddling and collusion stuff is that there has been not one peep about CHINESE money and meddling and collusion in the election. Do you remember anyone saying anything? I don’t.

    China has got America’s industrial backbone on its soil. It bought trillions in US government debt. It has got billions invested in the United States, in fact, according to Forbes, in 75 deals the Chinese dropped 54 billion in the US in 2016.

    China challenged American financial hegemony via the AIIB.

    Who has more motive to mess in American elections, Russia or China?

    • FincaInTheMountains July 25, 2017 at 1:01 pm #

      Screw the Chinese, what about the Fourth Reich of Angela Merkel in alliance with the Saudis?

    • FincaInTheMountains July 25, 2017 at 1:05 pm #

      After the Ukrainians intervened in the elections on behalf of the Clinton, everybody but the lazy are fucking with Jeffersonian Democracy anyway.

      Get used to it.

  55. seawolf77 July 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm #

    The number one thing Trump looks for in an employee is anal osculation.

    • 100th Avatar July 25, 2017 at 2:14 pm #

      You have a a deep obsession with all things anal. You’re beyond scatological.
      You have an obsession with anal sex. Reread all your past comments.
      Just step out already. Leave your dildo in the closet and come out.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 25, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

        And all spirits are evil spirits. God, being a spirit, is Evil too. Thus Wolfie believes in the Devil, but not God.

    • seawolf77 July 26, 2017 at 8:28 am #

      I think you guys want to buggar me.

  56. Janos Skorenzy July 25, 2017 at 3:13 pm #

    amren.com/news/2017/07/dont-tip-white-ppl-lol-young-memphis-waiter-receives-racist-note-lieu-tip/

    Talk to people who work in restaurants – Blax don’t tip. The note is probably a lie as they often don’t tip Non-Whites either.

    Someone posted the note online and started a Go Fund Me for this young man. He’s making out very well on this insult. The best revenge is living well.

  57. FincaInTheMountains July 25, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

    Today, Trump was on a special upbeat on a Twitter:

    1. Firstly, he accused the acting director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, who is part-time investigating the case of Hillary Clinton, in obtaining 700,000 dollars in bribe. Here and so – the director of the FBI is a bribe taker.

    2. Secondly, he demanded an investigation of Ukraine’s attempts to thwart his election campaign. The case of Manafort is not forgotten and Poroshenko apparently has something to worry about.

    3. Thirdly, he accused the Attorney General of the United States that he took a weak position on the case with Clinton’s E-mails. There is an opinion that Sessions has a very short time had to occupy his chair. Like Comey, he is pressed from two sides.

    4. Fourthly, he crumbled in compliments to John McCain, calling him an American hero, although during the election, Trump bluntly stated that there was nothing heroic in being captured. Apparently brain cancer is a sufficient excuse to once again become a hero in Trump’s eyes.

    5. Well, and the fifth, he once again drove through the “hunt for Russian witches” and the deceitful American media.

    It is very amusing to see how the White House is at the forefront of exposing the deceitful American media!

  58. 100th Avatar July 25, 2017 at 4:39 pm #

    Just downloaded and started the second installment of “S Town”. The latest series follows a rather pedantic senior-citizen volunteer teacher with lifelong pedagogical urgings in, and around, the greater Philadelphia public school system.
    *Spoiler alert*
    We learn by the second episode that he kills himself after a confused student reported him for having an “ask” to grind. Despite the protagonist’s (who is only identified as “Q”) attempts to bond with the student through similar tattoos of his proud “shorties” and after school tutoring sessions the axe/ask divide was too wide to bridge.

  59. sophia July 25, 2017 at 5:32 pm #

    Is there a trick to finding replies to one’s posts other than scrolling through it all?

    • JimInFlorida July 25, 2017 at 6:23 pm #

      Ctrl-F, then fill in your name.

      You can either hit F3 for each one or use the dialog box and click your way through every example.

      • sophia July 25, 2017 at 8:39 pm #

        Wow, thanks.

      • thwack July 25, 2017 at 8:50 pm #

        Hey Jim, do you have your own blog?

        or do you comment on any of the MGTOW sites?

        If so, which ones?

        • JimInFlorida July 26, 2017 at 8:44 am #

          No blog for me. I’m not that computer literate.

          I download a LOT of MGTOW videos from YouTube, convert them to .mp3 by using clipconverter, and then save them to my iPod.

          Now and then I’ll put up my two cents on a MGTOW video comment section but, CFN is where I do most of my ranting for now.

          Since you are CFN’s Token Black(TM), I’d recommend going to YouTube and checking out JayeDeBlackRedux, Paul Proteus, and MGTOW Knowledge – Darius, for the Black MGTOW perspective.

          • thwack July 26, 2017 at 10:42 am #

            Since you are CFN’s Token Black(TM

            **********

            lol

            If you feel more comfortable classifying me as such, knock yourself out.

            But it is my opinion that black males were both MGTOW and “Red Pill” long before either term existed.

            But go ahead and whitewash it if it makes it more “acceptable?” to you and your Europeon(TM) brothers

  60. FincaInTheMountains July 25, 2017 at 6:42 pm #

    You shot yourself – Ukrainization of the USA

    I just talked to a fanatical Trump’s follower.

    It turns out the situation is worse than I thought. Some time ago, after the surgery, Republican Whip Scalise who was shot a few hours before the Senate vote on the anti-Russian law, which today will vote on in Congress, became much worse. He was returned to the intensive care with postoperative sepsis, and his close ones were warned that they must prepare for the worst.

    Well in this situation, he became close one to ten millions of registered Republican voters, and the most moderate of them began to accuse the Democrats that it was their anti-Trump rhetoric that was driving the potential killer crazy. I was not going to repeat what the moderate Trumpistas said, but you can easily guess it yourself and be absolutely right.

    And, when it got really bad for Scalise, the Democrats broke out a lot of articles on the subject of lots of ultra-right radio stations that were listened to by a potential democrat-killer and these republican radio stations forced the killer to come to the conclusion that only killing Scalise can stop the offensive of the Trumpo-fascists.

    In short that Republicans have shot themselves!

    You understand that after that even moderate Republicans came to the conclusion that not so moderate brothers-in-party are not so extreme after all.

    It turns out last night Scalise had a teleconference with Republican congressmen who gathered for a weekly meeting with the Whip, which Paul Ryan was supposed to preside, but fakir was drunk and failed this trick. Let’s see how this will affect the results of today’s vote.

    • messianicdruid July 26, 2017 at 3:01 pm #

      It wasn’t the Trump stuff that got him shot. It was delving into the pedorast/pizza gate child sex trafficking that got him ruined. But of course it’s going to be blamed on Trump.

    • 100th Avatar July 25, 2017 at 9:04 pm #

      Wasser is water in German, and boy did she carry it.

  61. Janos Skorenzy July 25, 2017 at 8:53 pm #

    Dedicated to those suffering from Nice Guyism of whom Volodya is a representative type. They need this message. I exclude Elrond, Janet, and Sea Wolf who already know. They’re fine with violence as long as it is State sponsored and that State is a Marxist one.

    A lot of people like to think they are “non-violent.” Generally, people claim to “abhor” the use of violence, and violence is viewed negatively by most folks. Many fail to differentiate between just and unjust violence. Some especially vain, self-righteous types like to think they have risen above the nasty, violent cultures of their ancestors. They say that “violence isn’t the answer.” They say that “violence doesn’t solve anything.”

    They’re wrong. Every one of them relies on violence, every single day.

    On election day, people from all walks of life line up to cast their ballots, and by doing so, they hope to influence who gets to wield the axe of authority. Those who want to end violence — as if that were possible or even desirable — often seek to disarm their fellow citizens. This does not actually end violence. It merely gives the state mob a monopoly on violence. This makes you “safer,” so long as you don’t piss off the boss.

    All governments — left, right or other — are by their very nature coercive. They have to be.

    Order demands violence.

    A rule not ultimately backed by the threat of violence is merely a suggestion. States rely on laws enforced by men ready to do violence against lawbreakers. Every tax, every code and every licensing requirement demands an escalating progression of penalties that, in the end, must result in the forcible seizure of property or imprisonment by armed men prepared to do violence in the event of resistance or non–compliance. Every time a soccer mom stands up and demands harsher penalties for drunk driving, or selling cigarettes to minors, or owning a pit bull, or not recycling, she is petitioning the state to use force to impose her will. She is no longer asking nicely. The viability of every family law, gun law, zoning law, traffic law, immigration law, import law, export law and financial regulation depends on both the willingness and wherewithal of the group to exact order by force.

    When an environmentalist demands that we “save the whales,” he or she is in effect making the argument that saving the whales is so important that it is worth doing harm to humans who harm whales. The peaceful environmentalist is petitioning the leviathan to authorize the use of violence in the interest of protecting leviathans. If state leaders were to agree and express that it was, indeed, important to “save the whales,” but then decline to penalize those who bring harm to whales, or decline to enforce those penalties under threat of violent police or military action, the expressed sentiment would be a meaningless gesture. Those who wanted to bring harm to whales would feel free to do so, as it is said, with impunity — without punishment.

    Without action, words are just words. Without violence, laws are just words.

    Violence isn’t the only answer, but it is the final answer.

    One can make moral arguments and ethical arguments and appeals to reason, emotion, aesthetics, and compassion. People are certainly moved by these arguments, and when sufficiently persuaded –providing of course that they are not excessively inconvenienced — people often choose to moderate or change their behaviors.

    However, the willful submission of many inevitably creates a vulnerability waiting to be exploited by any one person who shrugs off social and ethical norms. If every man lays down his arms and refuses to pick them up, the first man to pick them up can do whatever he wants. Peace can only be maintained without violence so long as everyone sticks to the bargain, and to maintain peace every single person in every successive generation — even after war is long forgotten — must continue to agree to remain peaceful. Forever and ever. No delinquent or upstart may ever ask, “Or Else What?,” because in a truly non-violent society, the best available answer is “Or else we won’t think you’re a very nice person and we’re not going to share with you.” Our troublemaker is free to reply, “I don’t care. I’ll take what I want.”

    Violence is the final answer to the question, “Or else what?”

    Violence is the gold standard, the reserve that guarantees order. In actuality, it is better than a gold standard, because violence has universal value. Violence transcends the quirks of philosophy, religion, technology and culture. People say that music is a universal language, but a punch in the face hurts the same no matter what language you speak or what kind of music you prefer. If you are trapped in a room with me and I grab a pipe and gesture to strike you with it, no matter who you are, your monkey brain will immediately understand “or else what.” And thereby, a certain order is achieved.

    The practical understanding of violence is as basic to human life and human order as is the idea that fire is hot. You can use it, but you must respect it. You can act against it, and you can sometimes control it, but you can’t just wish it away. Like wildfire, sometimes it is overwhelming and you won’t know it is coming until it is too late. Sometimes it is bigger than you. Ask the Cherokee, the Inca, the Romanovs, the Jews, the Confederates, the barbarians and the Romans. They all know “Or else what.”

    The basic acknowledgement that order demands violence is not a revelation, but to some it may seem like one. The very notion may make some people apoplectic, and some will furiously attempt to dispute it with all sorts of convoluted and hypothetical arguments, because it doesn’t sound very “nice.” But something doesn’t need to be “nice” in order for it to be true. Reality doesn’t bend over to accommodate fantasy or sentimentality.

    Our complex society relies on proxy violence to the extent that many average people in the private sector can wander through life without really having to understand or think deeply about violence, because we are removed from it. We can afford to perceive it as a distant, abstract problem to be solved through high-minded strategy and social programming. When violence comes knocking, we simply make a call, and the police come to “stop” the violence. Few civilians really take the time to think that what we are essentially doing is paying an armed band protection money to come and do orderly violence on our behalf. When those who would do violence to us are taken peacefully, most of us don’t really make the connection, we don’t even assert to ourselves that the reason a perpetrator allows himself to be arrested is because of the gun the officer’s hip or the implicit understanding that he will eventually be hunted down by more officers who have the authority to kill him if his is deemed a threat. That is, if he is deemed a threat to order.

    There are something like two and a half million people incarcerated in the United States. Over ninety percent of them are men. Most of them did not turn themselves in. Most of them don’t try to escape at night because there is someone in a guard tower ready to shoot them. Many are “non-violent” offenders. Soccer moms, accountants, celebrity activists and free range vegans all send in their tax dollars, and by proxy spend billions and billions to feed an armed government that maintains order through violence.

    It is when our ordered violence gives way to disordered violence, as in the aftermath of a natural disaster, that we are forced to see how much we rely on those who maintain order through violence. People loot because they can, and kill because they think they’ll get away with it. Dealing with violence and finding violent men who will protect you from other violent men suddenly becomes a real and pressing concern.

    A pal once told me a story about an incident recounted by a family friend who was a cop, and I think it gets the point across. A few teenagers were at the mall hanging out, outside a bookstore. They were goofing around and talking with some cops who were hanging around. The cop was a relatively big guy, not someone who you would want to mess around with. One of the kids told the cop that he didn’t see why society needed police.

    The cop leaned over and said to the spindly kid, “do you have any doubt in your mind about whether or not I could break your arms and take that book away from you if I felt like it?”

    The teenager, obviously shaken by the brutality of the statement, said, “No.”

    “That’s why you need cops, kid.”

    George Orwell wrote in his “Notes on Nationalism” that, for the pacifist, the truth that, “Those who ‘abjure’ violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf,” is obvious but impossible to accept. Much unreason flows from the inability to accept our passive reliance on violence for protection. Escapist fantasies of the John Lennon “Imagine” variety corrupt our ability to see the world as it is, and be honest with ourselves about the naturalness of violence to the human animal. There is no evidence to support the idea that man is an inherently peaceful creature. There is substantial evidence to support the notion that violence has always been a part of human life. Every day, archeologists unearth another primitive skull with damage from weapons or blunt force trauma. The very first legal codes were shockingly grisly. If we feel less threatened today, if we feel as though we live in a non–violent society, it is only because we have ceded so much power over our daily lives to the state. Some call this reason, but we might just as well call it laziness. A dangerous laziness, it would seem, given how little most people say they trust politicians.

    Violence doesn’t come from movies or video games or music. Violence comes from people. It’s about time people woke up from their 1960s haze and started being honest about violence again. People are violent, and that’s OK. You can’t legislate it away or talk your way around it. Based on the available evidence, there’s no reason to believe that world peace will ever be achieved, or that violence can ever be “stopped.”

    It’s time to quit worrying and learn to love the battle axe. History teaches us that if we don’t, someone else will.

    • 100th Avatar July 25, 2017 at 9:03 pm #

      Agreed. Violence doesn’t come from people. It is nature. It’s what makes this planet tick. It is the big-bang after all, not the en vogue PC term, ” the large unpacking”.

    • sophia July 25, 2017 at 9:54 pm #

      So that is all true enough, but certainly there is a difference between different sorts of violence. We all know that certain things are wrong, such as attacking and stealing, but because some people will do it anyway, we have police. And most people who might break the law will not be in any real fear of violence because they are not going to fight or resist arrest. Yes, that is mostly because they are afraid to but I am just pointing out that there is a real difference between living in a lawless condition with unprovoked and chaotic violence versus paying government employees to keep the peace.

      I guess I am wondering what brought on the epistle.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 25, 2017 at 11:49 pm #

        I’ve been reading a book about the Indians (not Native Americans – we’re the Native Americans). They often fought not to subjugate or conquer, but because men must fight as a matter of honor. It’s Fun! What do you know this? You’re a woman – your dharma is completely different. Imagine if we tried to take away your dharma like you are trying to take away ours.

        Note: Like many primitive peoples, they had any number of different kinds of war. There was the pure Sport described above, raids for women and horses, raids to settle scores, and lastly the one more familiar to us: fighting to conquer, drive out, or eliminate.

        • sophia July 26, 2017 at 12:29 pm #

          1. It is one thing to have your racial opinions, but how do you decide that we are the native Americans?
          2. What makes you think I don’t understand male dharma? I believe I was an Indian male in a very recent life. I was born having male attitudes and drives. Had to adjust to being female. Yes, I had gender dysphoria and yes, it was resolved at puberty.
          3. What makes you think that women’s dharma isn’t being also taken from them by modern society and feminism?
          4. It may be that limited fighting is necessary, mostly to maintain territory, but wars of elimination? How do you put together ethics and karma and the spiritual treatises that you read into your otherwise rather dog eat dog approach to life? It’s a genuine question!

          • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 1:16 pm #

            4. I don’t endorse such things – just saying that Indians don’t have the moral high ground over us.

            3. Good point. The dharma has been twisted and the twisted version (sluts) has been shouted to the skies. Now they are really pushing women as killers – big time.

            2. Can’t relate to this. Everything you say seems driven by your Wiccan Metaphysic of Female Supremacy. Not buying it.

            1. Easy. We founded America. Nations by definition (see the etymology) mean a specific people, not a place. They were just living here. We took it from them. Aboriginals or Indigenous are appropriate words. But the first Americans? Bullshit. A masterpiece of propaganda that got by us while we slept.

      • seawolf77 July 27, 2017 at 7:32 am #

        A bee stung his lily white ass and now it looks like Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer.

    • JimInFlorida July 26, 2017 at 9:33 am #

      The West has been force-fed a Ghandi-esque passivity narrative for the past 50+ years. Not realizing that Ghandi was working in a very unique historical situation that enabled him to do that. That being post-WW2 India and a British Empire greatly weakened from the war. Attempting to replicate that paradigm in the West has utterly failed every time it was tried.

      Indeed, the March of Tyranny in the U.S. has covered much ground PRECISELY because the Ruling Elites do not face mortal danger for their mischief and malevolence. By peace, they shall destroy many.

      Now is a good time to reiterate my favorite deterrent to WW3:

      “Kill The Billionaires or Billions Will Be Killed. It’s Just That Simple(TM)”

      • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 1:10 pm #

        Yes, but the popular Gandhi, not necessarily Gandhi as he was. Gandhi fought for the Crown against the Blacks in South Africa. He was a decorated veteran. He was proud of his service too.

        Of course he was always changing. Each new doctrine was held with absolute and fanatical conviction – the source of his personal power. His pacifism was a big phase, one he was forced to modify during the Muslim/Hindu fighting.

        To his credit, he felt many Hindus adopted his pacifism out of cowardice. His ideal at that time was shown in the movie – men letting themselves be clubbed and beaten. He was particularly moved when warrior races like the Pathans adopted his viewpoint, as he knew they had the power to fight and thus were making a real choice.

        I’ll stick with the Code of Manu which doesn’t accept this fuzzy doctrine. It’s for people who have renounced the world: monks and yogis. Pacifist householders? Nonsense. Kali Yuga confusion.

    • Elrond Hubbard July 26, 2017 at 9:45 am #

      I read the first couple of paragraphs, wondering where Janos was going with this. Then I glanced down, saw the wall of text, and rolled my eyes. Life’s too short to spend pawing through piles of horseshit looking for the horse. So I’ll answer the slander that I am “fine with violence”, state-sponsored or otherwise, and leave it at that.

      Boiled down, my position amounts to this:

      Premise #1: We should do good and avoid evil.
      Premise #2: Violence is an evil.
      Conclusion: The less violence, the better.

      That’s it. That’s all there is to me on the subject of violence. Everything else is a matter of applying that to whatever comes up. As for the state, if there must be one, then the best state is the one that has the least resort to its monopoly of violence, either domestically or on the world stage.

      Janos thinks I’m a statist. Then again, Janos is a sperglord who sees the world through the most racist conceivable reading of J.R.R. Tolkien (whose romances offer a lot of room for such readings). Enter his world at your peril.

    • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 11:39 am #

      Janos,
      Well said.

  62. janet July 25, 2017 at 10:43 pm #

    “But you tip your hand when you pretend that the individual mandate is tantamount to a threat of imprisonment…Yeesh, people.” –Bruce E

    Correct, Bruce: THERE IS NO CHANCE OF JAIL FOR NOT HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE

    In future tax returns the Internal Revenue Service is taking a more lax approach to the coverage requirement.

    The ACA’s individual mandate requires everyone to either maintain qualifying health coverage or pay a tax penalty, known as a “shared responsibility payment.” The IRS was set to require filers to indicate whether they had maintained coverage or paid the penalty by filling out line 61 on their form 1040s. Alternatively, they could claim exemption from the mandate by filing a form 8965.

    For most filers, filling out line 61 would be mandatory. The IRS would not accept 1040s unless the coverage box was checked, or the shared responsibility payment noted, or the exemption form included. Otherwise they would be labeled “silent returns” and rejected.

    Instead, however, filling out that line will be optional. The IRS has quietly altered its rules to allow the submission of 1040s with nothing on line 61.

    So, please chill, benr. You are not going to jail for not having health coverage, thanks to President Trump. Trump has taken away your talking point.

    What would have been a mandatory disclosure will instead be voluntary. Silent returns will no longer be automatically rejected.

  63. janet July 25, 2017 at 10:54 pm #

    “Agreed. Violence doesn’t come from people. It is nature.” –100th Avatar

    Quick, call the Pentagon. The armed forces are under the impression it is necessary to spend a lot of money to yell at people and break people down … and spend a lot more money on “basic training” to indoctrinate people into obeying orders to kill other people.

    The Pentagon apparently doesn’t know such impersonalization and indoctrination is unnecessary … because violence “is nature”

  64. janet July 25, 2017 at 11:15 pm #

    Another week has passed. Obamacare is still the law of the land.

    Today the Senate decisively rejected a Republican proposal to repeal-and-replace Obamacare. Republicans needed 60 votes to keep the amendment alive. It died on a 43 to 57 vote.

    I want to thank Republicans for preserving Obamacare. Their hypocrisy is evident. After publicly braying against Obamacare and voting for 60+ times to repeal, knowing Obama would not sign, now they know Trump will sign, so they vote to preserve Obamacare.

    32 million Americans will not lose their health care. Zero Americans will go to jail for choosing to have no health care because Trump’s executive order told the IRS to accept “silent” tax returns, which means the IRS doesn’t give a shit if you want to risk medical bankruptcy by stupidly refusing to have health insurance. But I will still have to pay for your stupidity.

    • JimInFlorida July 26, 2017 at 9:45 am #

      Jane(t), you ignorant slut.

      As things are today, “Medicare For All,” is the only solution.

      NOT Obamacare which features cartel-control of commoditified health care. Pure neocon Republican malfeasance laundered through the Democrats to make it appear legit.

      What would I REALLY like? To disassemble the medical care paradigm back to 1960. I’d look into keeping Medicare and Medicaid but, in their original form. NO expansions! At the very least, everything after the 1973 HMO Act has to be torn down and dissolved.

      • sophia July 26, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

        Absolutely so. Our current medical system is a conglomeration of financial scams. Insurance should be abolished and real price competition brought back, with certain laws enforced, such as not allowing funny invisible pricing and gouging people in extremis.

  65. tucsonspur July 25, 2017 at 11:38 pm #

    Is it strange that violence knows poetry, and poetry knows violence? Maybe not.

    Words on blood. Blood on words. The following is worth remembering:

    By Robinson Jeffers

    “It is not bad. Let them play.
    Let the guns bark and the bombing-plane
    Speak his prodigious blasphemies.
    It is not bad, it is high time,
    Stark violence is still the sire of all the world’s values.

    What but the wolf’s tooth whittled so fine
    The fleet limbs of the antelope?
    What but fear winged the birds, and hunger
    Jewelled with such eyes the great goshawk’s head?
    Violence has been the sire of all the world’s values.

    Who would remember Helen’s face
    Lacking the terrible halo of spears?
    Who formed Christ but Herod and Caesar,
    The cruel and bloody victories of Caesar?
    Violence, the bloody sire of all the world’s values.

    Never weep, let them play,
    Old violence is not too old to beget new values”.

    Who has said it better?

    This just popped into my head. No really, not out of nowhere, but probably from the ancient “reptilian” neurons.
    “Sink your teeth right in my bones, it hurts so good” JCM

  66. Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 12:17 am #

    THE TYGER (from Songs Of Experience)

    By William Blake
    Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
    In the forests of the night,
    What immortal hand or eye
    Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

    In what distant deeps or skies
    Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
    On what wings dare he aspire?
    What the hand dare sieze the fire?

    And what shoulder, & what art.
    Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
    And when thy heart began to beat,
    What dread hand? & what dread feet?

    What the hammer? what the chain?
    In what furnace was thy brain?
    What the anvil? what dread grasp
    Dare its deadly terrors clasp?

    When the stars threw down their spears,
    And watered heaven with their tears,
    Did he smile his work to see?
    Did he who made the Lamb make thee?

    Tyger! Tyger! burning bright
    In the forests of the night,
    What immortal hand or eye
    Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?

    1794

    Sophia is trying to throw away experience in order to attain innocence. It is her right – as long as she doesn’t have the right to vote. Blake has a tantric perspective of trying to retain or regain innocence in the midst of experience.

    • sophia July 26, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

      I do not know what I said to bring this on.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 1:00 pm #

        You asked why I posted the epistle – as if Truth doesn’t have claims of its own. It’s never the wrong time for desperately needed truths, truths which have been suppressed for generations.

        I’m indifferent honest, but have committed such crimes that would make your grey hair turn White. Would you be a breeder of monsters such as me? Get thee to a nunnery then. As C.S Lewis said, the virginal type has the right not to surrender to men. And who can blame her, so flawed are we? But she will perforce (is this correct useage?) be forced to surrender to the Masculine force on High later on.

        And if we don’t surrender? Krishna replies, You WILL surrender to Me in any case when I come as Death. But since it wasn’t voluntary, there will be no merit.

  67. KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 12:40 am #

    ” Best Essay on the school system I’ve ever come accross if you’re interested:

    newciv.org/whole/schoolteacher.txt ”

    I was interested , and except for the occasional stupid swipe at Christianity , a very good essay.

    I was once interested in education, like I was once interested in corrections , until the day came where, in both cases , I realized the institution could not be reformed .

    Now jails and prisons may be absolutely necessary evils, no matter how evil .

    But far harder to explain is people who do know better, who know that the educational institution is a recent development , but the trains ran on time BEFORE that development, and yet sit there an insist it is absolutely necessary, no matter how evil.

  68. KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 12:51 am #

    ” Quick, call the Pentagon. The armed forces are under the impression it is necessary to spend a lot of money to yell at people and break people down … and spend a lot more money on “basic training” to indoctrinate people into obeying orders to kill other people.

    The Pentagon apparently doesn’t know such impersonalization and indoctrination is unnecessary … because violence “is nature” ”

    well, for once you wrote something that was just basically true.

    It can take a decade to build an aircraft carrier , which is given the seal of approval by a nation of soccer moms.

    What does that sort of involved , extended, pre-meditation have to do with the violence of dogs or sharks ?

    If they are any but loosely related, then every dog I know should be on death row, or First Degree Murder should not be a crime.

  69. KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 1:05 am #

    ” the IRS doesn’t give a shit if you want to risk medical bankruptcy by stupidly refusing to have health insurance. But I will still have to pay for your stupidity. ”

    Most people I know who forego health insurance do so because if they did not , their take -home pay would be shit , a 40 or 60 hour work week not withstanding .

    They have more pressing priorities than the possibility of poor health, like the amediate and concrete need to eat , or to pay for a place to stay. ( i.e. avoid being arrested and jailed for vagrancy. )

    ” But I will still have to pay for your stupidity. ”

    Do I detect resentment here at having to contribute to the general welfare ?

    • KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 1:26 am #

      — And , by the way, if all of this wasn’t true, then why was Obamacare particularly necessary in the first place ?

    • sophia July 26, 2017 at 12:41 pm #

      You do, and what’s worse, she’s complicit in the scams that cause the bankruptcy in the first place. Our medical care costs between twice and 10 times what it should, what it used to, and what it does in other countries.

  70. KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 1:23 am #

    ” THERE IS NO CHANCE OF JAIL FOR NOT HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE ”

    True enough , in that limited context.

    Except that is never how it has actually worked anyway.

    Many Americans relentlessly chase the almighty dollar because they are greedy materialists.

    But , I have no doubt whatever, as many or more Americans relentlessly chase the almighty dollar NOT because they are greedy materialists . Their motivation is fear .

    Fear of what ?

    Very bad things tend to happen here to people who don’t have money.

    No, strictly speaking, you won’t go to jail for lacking health insurance . or because you can’t pay your grocery bill, or because you aren’t wearing the right shoes, or any shoes.

    No, that 90% of the prison population is poor people is either a bizarre coincidence , or they are all bad people . ( That’s one hell of a huge, whooping , sweeping , stereotype there )

    And , by the way, if all of this wasn’t true, then why was Obamacare particularly necessary in the first place ?

  71. KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 2:07 am #

    ” It is when our ordered violence gives way to disordered violence, as in the aftermath of a natural disaster, that we are forced to see how much we rely on those who maintain order through violence. People loot because they can, and kill because they think they’ll get away with it. Dealing with violence and finding violent men who will protect you from other violent men suddenly becomes a real and pressing concern. ”

    I was in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

    First, some number of the police deserted their posts. ( I don’t know the number , maybe it was a very small number ? )
    In any case, for about two weeks the police were, in any case, otherwise indisposed.

    There was some looting, and some violence — and it was brought under control , no more than was usual — BEFORE the police came back , BEFORE the National Guard was sent in, BEFORE FEMA went in.

    Yes, the National Guard was sent in — like I said, after the fact . It was a case of what a long time ago they called , ” Look ! See ! Pigeon ! ” i.e. a show for the cameras.
    How really bogus the show of military force was , was certainly obvious and plain four months later when they were STILL there , but the police were clearly back and functioning, and the trains were back to running on time without them.

    FEMA — All those bastards did was GET IN EVERYONE’S WAY.
    The constructive help the city in general , and individual people specifically , got was from the Red Cross , and Christian Charities .

    ” A pal once told me a story about an incident recounted by a family friend who was a cop, and I think it gets the point across. A few teenagers were at the mall hanging out, outside a bookstore. They were goofing around and talking with some cops who were hanging around. The cop was a relatively big guy, not someone who you would want to mess around with. One of the kids told the cop that he didn’t see why society needed police.

    The cop leaned over and said to the spindly kid, “do you have any doubt in your mind about whether or not I could break your arms and take that book away from you if I felt like it?”

    The teenager, obviously shaken by the brutality of the statement, said, “No.”

    “That’s why you need cops, kid.” ”

    On more than one occasion in my life I have been on the receiving end of violence .

    So the cops came to my aid right ? Save me !

    Nope.

    They did nothing.

    Ok, maybe the police never did a damn thing for me because I didn’t deserve their help ? Maybe.

    But then explain why — their sucking up to the police not withstanding — the National Rifle Association , in plain language , makes precisely that same argument ?

    The NRA is how many people making the same claim , that the police cannot be counted on, you must count on yourself ?

    i guess all those NRA folks are undeserving deviant criminal scum too ?

    Your little story is a fucking fairy tale , .

    • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 11:50 am #

      “Your little story is a fucking fairy tale ”

      Kesa,

      I’ve mentioned before, that many, if not most, police are human. Your unfortunate circumstance is not always indicative of the results of counting on help from the police. A million similar circumstances will provide another million vignettes…. There are police in every society, always have been. Good cops, bad cops, good departments, bad departments, good cities, bad cities. Results ALWAYS vary.

      Share with us, please, a viable alternative….

    • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 12:40 pm #

      Most of the Black cops in New Orleans abandoned their post during Katrina. Some were filmed breaking into stores or helping other Blacks do so. The City was held (to the extent it was) by White Cops, who helped Emergency personnel evacuate people under fire at times – from Blacks of course.

      These heroes then disgraced themselves and/or The National Guard as they went door to door in the higher areas (both topographically and financially) attempting to confiscate guns.

      The best aspect: in certain areas, armed Whites staved off Negro marauders. Of course things get all mixed up: a large group of Negro refugees were prevented from crossing a bridge by White gunmen. Apparently, a large group had come thru earlier and caused chaos. So it goes – the innocent Negro suffers for the sins of the lower type – of which the Negro produces in such abundance. So it’s not prejudice or pre-judgment but post-judice or knowledge from experience. Generalized knowledge – which is the best one can do in the field at the time. The haphazard nature of such moral decisions is agony to you I know, but look! look! – you have done the same no doubt in other, smaller ways. So have I.

      • seawolf77 July 27, 2017 at 7:44 am #

        What color is the sky in your world? Your diatribe against blacks is as nauseating as putting a puppy in a blender and hitting the HIGH button. The facts are the cops on the bridge killing were found guilty, then had those convictions vacated, and now are serving significantly reduced sentences between 3 and 12 years. Whites did not behave any differently than blacks. Everybody behaved badly. You take a tragedy and look for the highlights of the white race? C’mon man!

        • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2017 at 7:35 pm #

          It wasn’t cops, at least not the incident I’m referring too. C’mon mon – get groovy!

  72. KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 2:42 am #

    ” I exclude Elrond, Janet, and Sea Wolf who already know. They’re fine with violence as long as it is State sponsored and that State is a Marxist one. ”

    Worth repeating . 🙂

    — Except maybe that “Marxist” bit. That is perhaps extending too much credit .

    Like giving any credit to the claim that things like , ” Good” , “Bad” , “Right” , “Wrong ” can be anything but creative accounting and a quibble over time , outside of the premise of an afterlife.

    One must assume Marxism, or secular humanism, have any long-term goal , good, bad, or indifferent . except there is not a shred of evidence to indicate that.

  73. KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 5:45 am #

    ” Ya gotta remember that many of the greatest generation went to school on the GI bill, and got jobs they never would have gotten without that degree. ”

    with the exception of law , medicine , and the priesthood, that wasn’t the case.

    In law there are lots of caveats even in that. Lawyers, of course, were disproportionately represented in the Continental Congress , and yet of the 50+ men who signed the Declaration of Independence, only 5 or 6 to my recollection ever set foot in a college, and of those only 3 or 4 graduated.

    I guess they were all helpless dumb asses.

    70+ years on Abraham Lincoln never went to law school.

    It would be entertaining to hear right-wing devotees of power, and left-wing devotees of power, who both otherwise claim Lincoln, to then jump ship and explain how Lincoln was somehow lacking because , gee, he didn’t even have a grade point average.

    Likewise , it would be entertaining for these same folks, who typically have nothing positive to say on that subject, to explain why degrees in theology and expensive seminaries were so necessary.

    Medicine has, yes, long required a degree . Except that for most of that time a physician was as likely to kill you with his ministrations as to help you.

    No doubt though, they will say, ” But times were simpler then ! ”

    Never mind that from railroads to electricity, to automobiles and heavy artillery , from Vulcanized rubber to condoms, and on and on,
    nine-tenths of the world we inhabit , its structures and institutions , were ushered in BEFORE any degrees were required beyond law, medicine, and the priesthood.

    To hear them characterize it, this terribly complex world that absolutely , critically , requires college degrees , began with the Ipod.

    Except ten year olds seem to have no trouble managing Ipods .

    Speaking of high -tech shit, as I hear it , many people here are using systems developed by a college DROP OUT named Bill Gates.

    Our terribly important CIA — what would we do without the CIA ? — saw fit to employ a fellow named Edward Snowden who only had a GED.

    Now perhaps I am exaggerating Snowden’s status, except that his former employers have seen fit to characterize him as a traitor, and want to throw him in the can for a long stretch.

    That seems like a hysterical reaction , especially given how educated these people presumably are , if Snowden was just a doorman or a toilet-scrubber.

    So no need to go back 50, or 100, or 200 years.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 26, 2017 at 8:46 am #

      Our terribly important CIA — what would we do without the CIA ? — saw fit to employ a fellow named Edward Snowden

      Ed Snowden was employed by the NSA.

    • volodya July 26, 2017 at 11:15 am #

      Our betters (the ones with the expensive degrees) keep drawing a line between “educated” and “uneducated”, the former being people with degrees, the latter being those without.

      My problem is this: how is it possible that people who complete high school but not college are regarded as uneducated? These people spent 13 years in school. If it really is the case that 13 years in classrooms results in a lack of education, then this is a giant fail by educrats and the teaching profession who purport to know what they’re doing.

      If the result is that kids graduating high school are illiterate and innumerate and know nothing in fields like science and history and geography or, like back in the day, metal-working, drafting, auto mechanics, wood-working etc, then this entirely discredits the educational establishment.

      Given the importance of the task this would require an immediate disbandment of the teaching profession, those institutions that train teachers, those bureaucracies that run schools, that is, a top to bottom house cleaning from receptionists to university deans that allegedly educate teachers, because in this, there can be no notion of “this is the way we’ve always done it.”

      OTOH, is it possible that this drawing of lines between those with degrees and those without is just a manifestation of class bigotry?

      I come from an era when people with college degrees were a small minority, when a high school grad, whether he went through the industrial arts program or the business program or an academically oriented program, was regarded as solidly educated, IOW possessing a fully adequate skill set especially in literacy and numeracy.

      Apparently, and in my own view inexplicably, this is no longer the case. Apparently, in the view of those who tell us they know, high school is no longer enough. How can this possibly be? I’d like to know why.

    • sophia July 26, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

      All very true. We don’t need all these degrees, and even in my lifetime the need for degrees keeps getting upped, and the degrees that are required get higher and higher, first an associates to be a physical therapist, then a bachelor’s and now often a master’s. Another bubble, another milking machine for the sheep.

  74. FincaInTheMountains July 26, 2017 at 8:42 am #

    Surrealism

    Two Pakistanis, members of Islamic State, serviced the computers of Wasserman-Schultz and several other prominent figures of the Democratic Party.

    Former CIA director John Brennan urged government officials to sabotage Trump’s orders, apparently referring to investigators who came to arrest the hard drives of the computers of the former head of the Democratic Party Wasserman-Schultz, who “secured” Hillary’s victory in the primaries.

    In fact that was the information that Russian hackers allegedly passed to WikiLeaks, allegedly undermining the Americans’ confidence in the US electoral system and giving rise to President Trump’s RussiaGate!!

    These hard drives were kept by two Pakistanis who created the CIA Inc IT firm and serviced the computers of Wasserman-Schulz as well as a number of other prominent figures of the Democratic Party while also being the members of the Islamic state, and when the police came to confiscate these disks, it turned out that they were smashing them with a hammer!

    dailycaller.com/2017/07/23/exclusive-fbi-seized-smashed-hard-drives-from-wasserman-schultz-it-aides-…

    • Billy Hill July 26, 2017 at 9:18 am #

      One of the Awans arrested at Dulles airport trying to flee USA.
      The plot thickens.

      The entire Russian collusion thing appears to be misdirection — as in look here, not there.

      Can someone, anyone, even Janet, explain the Awan brothers and their hold on Wasserman-Shultz? To say nothing of their compensation by the US taxpayer.

      This is beginning to get very interesting.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 26, 2017 at 9:45 am #

        Finca on June 23, 2016

        Meanwhile, the main Hillary Clinton’s IT-man during interrogation 125 times took the Fifth. A group of FBI officers claims that the security system of Hillary Clinton was disabled on purpose so the ISIS hackers could get information from it.

        If after that she still becomes president, the United States can be safely assumed to be a crypto-colony of Saudi Arabia.

        kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/burnt-toast/#comment-270237

        Finca on June 4, 2016

        She[Hillary] setup for failure, torture and murder by ISIS almost entire US intelligence network in the Middle East, including Ambassador Stevens.

        kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/fat-lady-always-sings-twice/#comment-269270

      • pequiste July 26, 2017 at 10:21 am #

        People, take note of the demographics of Wasserman Schultz’s House District #23 (and previously #20.) Staggering in light of this esteemed member of Congress, and former chair of the DNC, having her I.T. professionals also be members of the Yzlamik Brotherhood, ISIS, and other religion-based benevolent associations. Warms the cockles of my heart.

        As is being reported by Finca and other news outlets, let us hope those nice Awan boys accomplished other in-depth computer work for more upstanding House Democrat representatives before trying to abscond with their ill-gotten booty back to Shitholistan.

        • pequiste July 26, 2017 at 10:33 am #

          What people will do for a (inflation-ravaged, fiat currency) buck.

      • sophia July 26, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

        Since I know that almost all the news, right or left, is propaganda and lies, I simply assume projection.
        If they accuse a country of wanting to be an empire, it is because they want to be an empire.
        If they accuse someone of hacking an election, it is because they hack elections.
        If they accuse someone of colluding with other countries, it is because they do that.
        If they accuse someone of using the office to gain wealth, it is because that is their own goal.

        It’s really simple!

  75. FincaInTheMountains July 26, 2017 at 10:11 am #

    Trump takes effective measure to restore the combat capability of American Army

    Trump Says That Transgender People Will Not Be Allowed in the Military

    nytimes.com/2017/07/26/us/politics/trump-transgender-military.html?_r=0

    Unless the US were planning, like the Fourth Reich, to replace the elite troops with imported Islamist Shock troops, the move that makes a lot of sense.

  76. KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 10:13 am #

    ” Ed Snowden was employed by the NSA. ”

    So another group of college types who also didn’t think degrees were absolutely necessary.

    Thanks for expanding the list .

  77. KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 10:56 am #

    ” The cop leaned over and said to the spindly kid, “do you have any doubt in your mind about whether or not I could break your arms and take that book away from you if I felt like it?” ”

    the teenager should have replied with something along the lines of ,

    ” Do you have eyes in the back of your head? Do you know what is coming around the next corner , and two days before ? Do you never sleep? Never take a shower ? Have every bite you eat tested beforehand ? what is really to stop a kid half my age from killing you , without warning , for no reason in particular ? So that you cannot even predict motive ? No, no less than a newborn baby, you live only at the sufferance of powers you do not know . Be those powers the Gods, an 8 year old girl , or a banana peal . “

    • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

      Kesa,
      Sometimes…”Don’t bother me, or I will kill you” can be seen as an empty threat.., If your premise be viable, then why so much violence in the world? Doesn’t seem to slow many people down.

      Society maintains police so that the weak and less-offensively minded can maintain a civil lifestyle.

  78. thwack July 26, 2017 at 11:09 am #

    There is an additional tragedy on top of the murder (yeah, I said it and I won’t take it back) of Justine Damond.

    And that is the fact she was killed while attempting to help NOT herself, but another person.

    Why is this event so disturbing?

    I’ll tell you why.

    Because its going to cause more good people to “look the other way” when someone needs help; rather than get involved and expose themselves to all kinds of potential liabilities…

    I know this because I am one of em (and been that way a while too.)

    As a black male? I ain’t gettin involved in anything that involves helping another person in the “public space”; cause I ain’t giving the racists an excuse to blame or accuse me of a God damn thing.

    Sorry

    it is what it is…

    I know its ugly.

    Your child lost in a crowd, crying… struggling to stay afloat in some shallow water…?

    Fuck yo child and fuck yo feeling… I caint take no chances “getting in trouble”

    Im already in enough trouble dealing with racism.

    Thank God this innocent white woman got shot and killed; cause that makes it a “one and done”

    otherwise it would have taken 10 dead niggers and 5 dead Labrador Retrievers to snatch that badge off this idiots chest.

    Thank you Justine, you are my own personal Jesus.

    Just sayin

    • KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 11:49 am #

      The other day I saw a girl who , from inside a car and at a distance, looked to be between 17 and 25 years old.

      She was walking along in a rural area , at least 2,000 yards from the nearest likely destination, and the day was extremely hot.

      So I pulled over and offered her a ride. When she got in the car, I saw she was actually about 12 .

      Shit !!

      Well, nothing bad came of it.

      The exact same sort of thing happened to a girlfriend of mine though.
      For her trouble she got grilled by the police for two hours, and was threatened with a charge of kidnapping.

      No, she was not, in fact, charged with anything.

      But perhaps you have noticed all those people who would say that is just fine then , yet get their panties in a twist when they haven’t even been threatened .

      When they have not been grilled , not been asked to explain their conduct in 3rd grade , not been asked about their sexual history, not been asked for a list of everyone they have ever fucking known , but all over driving uneventfully 5 blocks.

    • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

      “Im already in enough trouble dealing with racism.”

      Thwack,
      Sooo, blacks cannot be bothered to help because of racism?

      Sooo, blacks can be sociopaths because of racism?

      Sooo, blacks have no empathy and be counted on not to have normal human feelings because of racism?

      Sooo, whites understand this an react accordingly?

      Sooo, blacks cannot be bothered to help because of racism?

      Rinse and repeat.

      There are many good, decent blacks out there, but it seems you may not be one of them.

      Just relivin’ my youth….

      • sophia July 26, 2017 at 1:03 pm #

        Elysian, what he’s saying is, if there is a struggle or difficult situation and he tries to help, he might get shot for it.

        • thwack July 26, 2017 at 1:22 pm #

          No, its worse than that; If Im even seen RUNNING AWAY from gunfire, I might get shot.

          *if you dindu nuffin, why were you running?”

        • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 4:00 pm #

          Sophia,
          Permit me an observation…that mindset is that of a victim of an outrage that has not yet occurred…may not occur, and when occurring, rare that it is, is newsworthy for it’s rarity…the fear a cheap, goddamn excuse for cowardice. Are you telling me that there can be no black good Samaritans? Because they fear that their selfless acts might have negative consequences?

          To believe this is foolish. If it is generally believed, than society would be better without those who do so.

          Have outrages occurred in the past? Of course, but for every outrage, there have been THOUSANDS of acts of kindness that go unheralded. To believe Thwack’s comment is to buy into the meme that is the ghetto culture. I despise those who think that way.

          • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 4:14 pm #

            A note to Mr. Tibbs,

            Can there be no black sheepdogs in your New Republic?

          • KesaAnna July 26, 2017 at 5:42 pm #

            I live in the poorest county in this state , yet I never lock my car doors , and leave the windows rolled down in summer.

            I am an ardent supporter of the 2nd Amendment ,which is to say I do not , like so many, claim that people have a right to defend themselves —-except for every Tom, Dick, and Harry.
            My support of the 2nd Amendment is not riddled with caveats.

            But i own no guns myself , will not have any. Because it is claimed i could be a threat. That is an un-falsifiable claim that can never be disproven really .
            Never-the less I would do so as much as one can by actions and behavior to disprove it.

            i am no pacifist. Which is to say that I am fully aware that in a potential necessity of deadly force situation I would be severely handicapped , in any defense it is likely I would be severely maimed or killed.

            I would allow, indeed encourage, every Tom, Dick , and Harry, to go about adequately armed , while I , on account of a sentiment that is bullshit anyway, am defenseless.

            In short ,

            I REALLY do not see how i could give others any greater benefit of the doubt, and continue breathing as a practical matter .

            — Never the less, giving that 12 year old girl a ride scared the shit out of me

            I routinely am told by people who would , balk at half the sacrifices I have made already, that I demand too much !!

            As for the question you asked earlier — long essay , and the power is turned off in an hour. So that will be a wait of some hours.

          • sophia July 27, 2017 at 11:45 am #

            Hmm, I generally think that things are reasonably equal between blacks and whites, and despise when blacks play the race card.
            But I do think that black males are feared, and many of them know it. I once talked to a black guy, perfectly nice individual, who mentioned that he is quite sensitive to engendering fear and will even walk on another side of the street, especially after dark and especially if it is a woman. Just goes out of his way to avoid provoking fear and he was not complaining or whining, just using reasonable caution and being considerate.

            Of course there is and can be black altruism, note KesaAnna giving the young girl a ride. But note that even as a woman she was real nervous when she realized she had a child in the car. It would never have occurred to me to be nervous about that.

      • thwack July 26, 2017 at 1:26 pm #

        There are many good, decent blacks out there, but it seems you may not be one of them.

        *************

        Under the system of racism white supremacy, the ONLY opinion that counts is the white supremacist’s.

        Are you a white supremacist?

        • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 4:05 pm #

          Thwack,
          You have shown that I am confused as to my race, so I cannot answer the last question. This system is not one of white supremacy…your opinion was certainly counted and commented upon. Your comment, if you truly believe what you posted, says something about your values, something not complementary.

          By your metric, aware blacks cannot be decent….

    • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 12:46 pm #

      Did you catch the tape of the Blacks kids laughing and gabreeting as a Black men slowly drowned? I mean not only did they not helped, they mocked, they enjoyed. Nay more: they posted themselves so doing – like they’re proud of it or did something great!

      Yo could have been one of those boyz. You still are. The distance between us cannot be bridged. Thank you for your honesty. May it lead some beleaguered White to their Awakening.

      • thwack July 26, 2017 at 5:55 pm #

        the thwack is our misfortune

        • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 6:09 pm #

          “the thwack is our misfortune”

          …Our burden….

          • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

            Atlas must shrug.

  79. pequiste July 26, 2017 at 11:54 am #

    Concerning the value of everything Wall Street:

    All major stock indices have entered record territory. Frothy doesn’t quite cover it so check out the appropriate classic –

    youtube.com/watch?v=J2hI3-KvYZY

  80. volodya July 26, 2017 at 11:56 am #

    Henry that was a fascinating essay in that link. So, if 13 years of education doesn’t get you educated but rather programmed and crazy as a loon, then how can 4 years in a college undo the damage and actually accomplish the task of “education”. Looking at the absurdity coming from those leafy campuses with safe-spacers, speech police and thought control, it looks like more of the same, maybe worse.

    Have to say in addition, that my own experience going through the hoops wasn’t as toxic as that portrayed in the essay. It wasn’t a disjointed mess but rather a more organized presentation. I guess that times change.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 12:49 pm #

      College is now just high school. The idiot compassion of letting everyone go just lowered the value – and filled the coffers of this death industry which uses Howard Zinn’s book to destroy young White minds.

      • volodya July 26, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

        Not just white minds getting ruined but east Asians and south Asians. Last I saw the campuses are full of these folk.

  81. Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 12:54 pm #

    Trump’s beleaguered must have been a play on Bureagard (sp?) – our King has a multifold intelligence and wit. In other news, have you heard?

    dailystormer.com/trump-us-will-not-allow-trannies-to-serve-in-the-military-in-any-capacity/

    O Happy day. The Untermensch and Skraelings have been joining the military to get their operation on our dime. Fuck that. Heil to the Chief!

    • sophia July 26, 2017 at 1:14 pm #

      Neither taxpayers nor insurance companies should ever be required to pay for cosmetic surgery. I mean, optional cosmetic surgery. Should pay to fix harelips and such.

    • JimInFlorida July 26, 2017 at 7:05 pm #

      I was in the Cold War Navy during the reign of Reagan and Bush Sr. In other words, the years before anybody even THOUGHT of letting fags, trannies, and other freaks serve.

      Yeah, it was obvious that the Pentagon was aggressively recruiting Flips, Mexican nationals, and even some Africans but, it was still nothing like today.

      One of the benefits of serving in the Silent Service (nuclear submarines) was that the demographics are almost ALL WHITE. Very few Blacks even TRY to volunteer for such duty and the washout rate for them is much much higher. The few Negroes who DO make it to their first command have earned their place and they fit in. On my boat, the crew was 135 men and we never had more than TWO Black men at any time. In my last year, we had an ALL WHITE CREW. BTW, most boats were 100% White and Male anyway.

      We could not have done our mission if we were crippled by Affirmative Action or mixed gender crews. Of course, that reality meant nothing to Obama. I can only shudder to think of how things are now.

      Trump has go FAR BEYOND blocking trannies in certain military occupations. He needs to REVERSE ALL EEOC diktats that force women into male jobs. There’s no way in hell I’d go to war with the U.S. Navy as it is today.

      • JimInFlorida July 26, 2017 at 7:18 pm #

        I forgot. Our crew was 135 but, it was split up into Blue and Gold crews. There was typically 70-75 on the boat itself while underway.

      • sophia July 27, 2017 at 11:55 am #

        I read yesterday that transsexuals, both male and female, serve in far higher numbers than they represent in the general population. Why is the military attractive to them? Dunno, there are a couple of speculations.
        So one article showed a guy, nice looking, in the 70’s who was in Viet Nam. He said he wanted to prove to himself that he was a man, because he hadn’t figured himself out yet but was attracted to crossdressing and such. But, he was attracted sexually to females and had girlfriends. Fast forward, and now he has had a sex change operation and and a female partner (he’s attracted to females) but considers himself a lesbian.
        Trans males (and I mean males) are about 25-30% or so heterosexual – attracted to females. But the articles I read yesterday from 2016 about trans in the army, were gearing up to let these guys use the women’s showers.

        The more I think on all this the more scenarios and ramifications of “reality is whatever I feel it is and the physical world take the hindmost” occur to me and the more crazy it all seems. Perhaps, eventually, we will all collectively gag.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

        Submarines may be the only way to stop the Sea Org bringing in African refugees into Europe. Like that guy in Atlas Shrugged, Dag Hamerskold – or is that the UN cuck?

        Or maybe frogmen to attack the ships in port. Or can dolphins be trained to do it?

        • JimInFlorida July 27, 2017 at 8:42 pm #

          Janos, the incredible irony is that Germany, France, and Sweden have EXCELLENT attack submarines and crew training! I know.

          I guess the those countries keep such weapons systems as a mere, “Hobby Of The State,” and not to protect the LEGITIMATE WHITE CITIZENRY from a Camp-Of-The-Saints-invasion from the sea. Since these countries are too cowardly to OPENLY defend themselves from such an invasion, they’ll have to contract out the dirty job of racial self-preservation.

          The best bet is for a privately purchased Cold War vintage submarine to be outfitted (off the books and under the table). Manned by mercenary crews (Academi?) who are psychologically tested to ensure that they understand the bitter necessity of what THEY MUST DO. Soft-hearts and soft heads will result in their loved ones being raped, robbed, and killed by these animals if they are not stopped on the High Seas. They wouldn’t have a nation to return home to if they failed.

          It would probably have to be a Soviet-era diesel electric attack boat. Collect about four or more seaworthy examples of one type and commission a shipyard to overhaul them in secret.

          It would be the ultimate Deep State intelligence black-op involving elements of EU INTCEN, Russian technical advisors, and CIA tacit approval (I see nothing). The White House would have to put a blackout on the sinking of these human cargo ships and issue reports declaring such losses were due to bad weather or an unseaworthy ship.

          The West will be saved from further demographic pollution and the cowardly governments can show “clean hands” while being silent on the existence of the mission.

  82. volodya July 26, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

    Sophia, you said it, “sheep”. If education, especially college, is supposed to instill critical thinking skills, that is, the ability to objectively analyze, then the system is a flop.

    You listen to discussion nowadays and there’s hardly a dissent to the notion that college education is a necessity. No critical thinking here. People just go with the herd and open the wallet.

    And especially not a peep about making the first 13 years count ie 13 YEARS to crank out literate, numerate, skilled, knowledge-able people.

  83. Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 2:14 pm #

    bbs.dailystormer.com/t/jewish-washerwoman-schultz-paki-it-guy-arrested-trying-to-flee-the-country/12…

    Evil is taking a drubbing – what a luvley day. Meanwhile Elrond writhes in agony and howls to the uncaring Canadian moon. If they can break this guy, it might be the thread that unwinds the whole Demo-rat Conspiracy.

  84. messianicdruid July 26, 2017 at 2:27 pm #

    The Russians are going to have to learn what the natives in North America learned; Washington doesn’t keep its treaties. Trump is going to have to learn what Carter learned; his enemies are people in his own party and cabinet.

    • JimInFlorida July 26, 2017 at 7:28 pm #

      Putin and Lavrov have to stop referring to us as their “partners.”

      No doubt they are striving to project a sense of respectability upon us but, it won’t work. It won’t work for the same reason that Whitey has spent the last 60 years trying to bring civilization to Africa and the Middle East. They simply aren’t capable of incorporating such enlightenment.

      We are now a fallen land and our wounds are self-inflicted. Perhaps Russia will send their version of the Peace Corps to us.

  85. messianicdruid July 26, 2017 at 3:50 pm #

    Janos saith “We founded America. Nations by definition (see the etymology) mean a specific people, not a place. They were just living here. We took it from them. Aboriginals or Indigenous are appropriate words. But the first Americans? Bullshit. A masterpiece of propaganda that got by us while we slept.”

    I think you can see why “the moral high ground” is debateable from the POV of the indigenous, when you admit for the rest of us that “we took it from them”. We made treaties which were not kept, for the most part.

    The idea that America is an idea rather than a place might become more acceptable if you would quit using it interchangably. And shouldn’t we be saying north americans or north central americans or maybe western americans?

    BTW; how long do you have to live in a place to be considered indigenous?

    • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

      “BTW; how long do you have to live in a place to be considered indigenous?”

      Druid,
      If I’m standing on the dock when you get off the boat…I’m indigenous.

      • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 4:11 pm #

        “If I’m standing on the dock when you get off the boat…I’m indigenous.”

        …And you, sir, are the FNG….

    • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 6:16 pm #

      In other words, you are refusing to take your and our point of view as primary. You have failed the Test. A House thus divided cannot stand. And it won’t.

      America is an idea incarnated. It has breadth, depth, and width just like we do. We have needs. We take up space. We’re not perfect. Our shit stinks.

      I’m amazed at you. Do you deny we took it from them? You think that’s a bad thing? Why are you still here, then? Don’t you have a moral imperative to get offa their land? And we shouldn’t use the word American because it offends you?

      • messianicdruid July 26, 2017 at 8:44 pm #

        Am-el-ri-ca = heavenly kingdom [ reich ] in gaelic. It is an idea, not a place. It is time to put “our” point of view away and accept God’s point of view. It is called repentance [ change mind ].

        The “wilderness” and the “desolate heritage” were reserved for Israel [ not the jews alone ], because God promised Abraham that his descendents would become “as the stars in the sky and the sands by the sea”.

        Yes, we took it from them. It was a mistake. We made treaties and could have lived in peace, but like Jacob [ and Judas ] we thought we had to help God out by supplanting the previous stewards. The stewardship was theirs, but *not* the ownership. Our stewardship has much to be desired, and I believe an accounting is about to take place.

        We have made [ up ] laws which put away and make void God’s Laws. The answers to our problems lay on coffee tables gathering dust while we bicker among ourselves [ about our made up laws ].

        My beef with you is that you want to shut people out of the kingdom based on ethnicity. “Whosoever will may come and drink of the water of life freely”.

        We should be inviting other nations [ individuals] in with the express understanding that they will learn the ways of God so they can return to their homes and bless their own people.

        But, of course we cannot do that because WE are not following in the footsteps of our [ faithful ] forefathers even though we still name our children after them.

        You are no better than you-know-who – who look down upon the gentiles [ nations ], not accepting that God has nailed the covenant [ NOT the Law ] of Moses to the cross.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 8:55 pm #

          Naw, their hunter gatherer lifestyle takes up a lot of space and was incompatible with development and large numbers of people. It was them or us. Your own religion says this land was promised to Manassas. But you refuse the gift – not good.

          You may get by Peter at the Pearly Gates, but you aint getting into the White Republic – not on my watch. You’re a very unusual Liberal or cucked Conservative.

          • messianicdruid July 26, 2017 at 10:26 pm #

            I am neither.

            It is Manessah. It means forgetful.

            You have heard nothing I said because of your smorgasbord religion.

          • sophia July 27, 2017 at 12:33 pm #

            I have to agree here more or less with Messianic Druid, even though I don’t accept his scripture. Janos, you have a spiritual disconnect.
            I don’t see it as legitimate to say that because we’re going to make better use of land, we should therefore be within our rights to take it. Perhaps I have a nice house and large yard and someone should take it from me because he will build an apartment complex on it and get a lot more people living on it and collect lots of rent. Development!

            Also, there were many more people living here than we were told. Up to 90% die-off in some areas, including the amazon. There were amazing village-type cities in the amazon jungle with technology for improved soil that we are trying to figure out how they did it. Also, we are definitely overshooting the carrying capacity of the land, so how is that superior to under shooting?

            Plus, I think that we are now reaping what we have sewn and that what we have sewn goes way back to the beginning. The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2017 at 2:35 pm #

            altright.com/2017/07/08/10-reasons-why-conservatives-suck/

  86. wm5135 July 26, 2017 at 5:07 pm #

    Janos,
    Should I entertain the thought that you are really seeking the return of a completely homogeneous universe. Nothing but hydrogen atoms, yeah that’s the ticket. Don wan no helium hangin roun!

    Sheesh man, give it a rest.

    • thwack July 26, 2017 at 5:59 pm #

      Nawh….

      you know he wants them helium atoms around to tote that bale, warm his bed and wet nurse his fuck trophy

      • JimInFlorida July 26, 2017 at 7:11 pm #

        Nawh…. You mean CARBON atoms.

        Those black sooty atoms that settle on the clean white linens drying on the clothes line.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2017 at 1:21 pm #

      Do you really not see it? I want the separate colors on the watercolor palette to stay separate because I like them. Mixing them together ends them. Janet’s “diversiy” leads to homogeneity. My homogeneity insures diversity. Borders are beautiful: Ever watch the sharp lines of the shadows as the sun sets over an cityscape or a mountain? Do you really want a world with no edges, no bone structure, no colors? Just brown amoebas merging into each other in unholy congress?

  87. janet July 26, 2017 at 6:03 pm #

    “Janos, Should I entertain the thought that you are really seeking the return of a completely homogeneous universe. Nothing but hydrogen atoms, yeah that’s the ticket. Don wan no helium hangin roun!” –wm5135

    Janos is wrong. With human beings race mixing is good. Homogeneity leads to inbreeding, weakness, sickness and daeth. Diversity is strength … which is why miscegenation is good.

    • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 6:14 pm #

      “Homogeneity leads to inbreeding, weakness, sickness and daeth. Diversity is strength …”

      Janet,
      That’s why those Godless Commies in North Korea are so weak…no diversity.

      Janet, have you ever met any Koreans? Nothing weak about any of them.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 11:41 pm #

      Yes Janet, I’m also in favor of diversity, just not all in the same place at the same time. That would just lead to a mess – like eating too many different kinds of food at once or smooshing everything together on your plate and disgusting everyone present. Must I say it? Diversity means order and order means borders. Since you refuse to see this, you are thus a devotee of Chaos. A demon in other words.

  88. janet July 26, 2017 at 7:23 pm #

    “that’s why those godless commie are weak… –elysianfields

    Of course North Korea is weak … due to decades of homogeneous isolation. North Korea is kept alive by a drip-feed of aid from China. If China were to sever the drip-feed, North Korea would simply implode, sending millions of refugees into China.

    • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 7:31 pm #

      Janet,
      You discuss culture and homogeneity, but argue the international politics…two different things…Koreans are a tough group.

      • janet July 26, 2017 at 8:06 pm #

        Elysianfield, you say North Koreans are tough. Tough people do not succumb to a child dictator. The homogeneous North Koreans are religious cult members bowing down to their leader. Weak.

        The DPRK military is also weak. It should be obvious why, but I can explain it if you don’t understand.

        • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 8:16 pm #

          Janet,
          You will have to explain it to me….

          • janet July 26, 2017 at 8:33 pm #

            OK, here you go. North Korea is legendary for its large military. With approximately 1.2 million soldiers in its army, it can easily overwhelm the South Korean military with an advantage of more than 2 to 1.

            However, this isn’t such a strength, particularly following any initial thrust.

            One million troops consume a lot of food and during combat they consume fuel and ammunition among other supplies. While North Korea can lay in plenty of ammunition, food is perishable and it will be difficult to feed a moving, fighting army that is subject to interdiction by superior enemy airpower.

            A more likely outcome will be mass defections and the surrender of large numbers of troops when they are faced with starvation and a lack of supplies.

            North Korea is already dependent on international food aid to feed its starving population and most food aid is diverted to the army. However, in the event of war, all food shipments would likely cease and the only food many soldiers would get is that foraged from the countryside. That’s not enough to ensure the success of a military campaign. Undoubtedly, this weighs heavily on the minds of North Korea’s military planners and leaders and serves as a brake on Dear Leader’s imperialist ambition.

            Conclusion: homogeneous = weakness.

          • elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 10:41 pm #

            Janet, Janet, Janet

            I am speaking of the Koreans as a people, and a culture…you are describing a transient political situation…I do not give a “whack” about their geopolitical condition, I am speaking of the Koreans I have known…they are a hard people.

            Conclusion;
            Your argument is specious.

      • janet July 26, 2017 at 8:11 pm #

        Pentagon spending on sexual orientation 2015-2016:

        Trangender: $5 million

        Viagra : $41 million

  89. elysianfield July 26, 2017 at 7:29 pm #

    Well worth reading.

    The Woodpile Report, always interesting, always updated on Tuesday.

    Ol’ Remus has a few words regarding the upcoming “zombie apocalypse” that we address on a regular basis. The description, in a few paragraphs, has the ring of truth.

    woodpilereport.com/

  90. janet July 26, 2017 at 7:31 pm #

    Few people lament we no longer ride in horse drawn carts. We made a transition to fossil fuel combustion engines. Now the UK is banning gas and diesel engines, to take effect in 2040. The era of cars that have internal combustion engines is coming to a close.

  91. ozone July 26, 2017 at 7:54 pm #

    …If he hollers… never let ’em go.
    The comment section of this blog is an interesting exercise in the destruction of empathy and how much bilious bullshit can be absorbed without apparent (outward) effect.

    You REALLY know not what you do.
    But you’re gonna find out. (Don’t worry, it won’t be a bit boring. Isn’t that the desired result; the instigation of “excitement”/”stimulation”?)

    • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 9:00 pm #

      Doomer Snob, will you please control yourself? You add to the excrement but refusing to answer honest questions.

      • ozone July 26, 2017 at 9:45 pm #

        vladdie, the paid, fuckwit minion’s only purpose here is to foment division, hatred and poisonous nonsense. Those of us who have been paying attention know this is the very deliberate case. He does seem to enjoy the vocation of pretend neo-nazi, but why else would you join a psy-op coalition that is the epitome of totalitarian control? Fear and paranoia are what the temple of authoritarianism is built upon. It is the antithesis of a cohesive, mutually supportive society; it’s markedly ANTI-social, emotionally destructive and alienating. The bridge to the totalitarian utopia is always wired with H.E., and it’s proponents are always fighting each other to be the cackling psycho that grabs the crossbar on the plunger detonator that initiates the “final solution” of suicide and extinction.

        …Yet he demands “answers” to his “honest questions”. (Nothing in the least “honest” about any of it.) My question would be: Who owes this grating pissant any-goddamn-thing, and what would make him think that might be so?? Being a blog-hog entitles one to absolutely NOTHING but the distinguished title of blog-hog and bilious spewer of poisonous nonsense. But hey, the perqs are supplied. Strutting and fretting? Soon, just soon.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 11:45 pm #

          Still won’t answer whether he believes in the Nation State – and thus America as a Nation (or even a Country). He’s probably an Anarchist and knows how that would go over. And he’s not confidant enough to defend it either. So why does he hold to it? Simply perverse!

  92. FincaInTheMountains July 26, 2017 at 8:02 pm #

    US Red Project, seemingly forever vanished, has surfaced from the depths of American politics and now is raising its voice:

    STEVE BANNON PUSHING FOR 44 PERCENT MARGINAL TAX RATE ON THE VERY RICH

    theintercept.com/2017/07/26/steve-bannon-pushing-for-44-percent-marginal-tax-rate-on-the-very-rich/

    • malthuss July 27, 2017 at 6:30 pm #

      and then what? more government?

  93. janet July 26, 2017 at 8:18 pm #

    Social conservatives lost the battle on gay marriage and need a new scapegoat… hence attacks on transgender soldiers who serve with honor and dignity and do not affect military readiness or unit cohesion.

    Trump’s attacks on the military are a deflection from his legal problems from his collusion with Russia to subvert our democratic elections.

    • messianicdruid July 26, 2017 at 8:51 pm #

      You should follow Shumer’s lead and abandon the false narrative.

  94. janet July 26, 2017 at 11:10 pm #

    “Soon, just soon.” –ozone

    Yes, it won’t be long now, ozone. Vladdie’s saviour is going down. Conservatives like Matt Drudge, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh are expressing their impatience with Trump’s inability to follow through on his campaign promises. 45 is ineffective and is going to be impeached. Whether or not he resigns or is removed from office is yet to be seen. Meanwhile, on Trump’s watch, North Korea continues its nuclear program with missile launches and development of its submarine launched nuclear ICBMs that reach the America heartland. N. Korea’s Dear Leader is humiliating Trump and showing the world that Trump is nothing more than a NY liberal draft dodger, a paper tiger Putin puppet. Trump is a coward.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 26, 2017 at 11:46 pm #

      These “two” are thick as thieves!

  95. KesaAnna July 27, 2017 at 12:04 am #

    ” There are police in every society, always have been. ”

    No.

    ” Good cops, bad cops, good departments, bad departments, good cities, bad cities. Results ALWAYS vary. ”

    ^ As you pointed out, we could fill warehouses with the details.
    So let’s just stick with the English-speaking world , and as brief as possible ?

    Police did not begin until the Peelian reform , slightly less than 200 years ago.

    20 years ago I was told that humans had been around 30,000 years, now I hear 50,000 years, as one critic of Creationism said once, the only certainty with science is that within 25 years any science textbook will be obsolete.
    No wonder Atheists like Creationists so much. when your argument is complete shit , only an opponent who is a complete moron , who actually agrees with you on the fundamentals, is greatly to be preferred.

    Anyway, the point being, compared to scales like 30 or 50,000 years , 200 years does not necessarily add up to Holy writ.

    The police have been around 200 years ? Oooohhhh………..not really impressive necessarily.

    The idea of the Peelian reform, briefly, was civilians in uniform keeping the peace.

    Uniforms ; NOT to suggest any military association, any more than uniforms at Burger King suggest a military association. But so that people would not ignore, beat up, or kill police out of simply not knowing any better.

    keeping the peace ; prior to the Peelian reform the closest equivalents to police were ; bodyguards or security guards you paid for out of your own pocket.

    And if you couldn’t afford it ? Tough shit. ( Oddly though, somehow the species survived. Hmmmm. )

    But , if that is an adequate definition of police, then Thwack, or I , or whoever you don’t particularly value or esteem ( ? ) would serve just as well.

    There were the Sheriffs , not much of an improvement , or difference , over the regular army at this point, and already blurring the lines at this point, as a significant function of theirs was to maintain stores of military arms locally, and raise military troops locally , if the king went to war or had to fight off a coup.

    Then there was the Army. Through much of the 18th century , for example, the troops of the Household Gaurd ( the guys in red coats marching around Buckingham Palace today ) were commonly used to police London.

    Well, why not use the army ? What’s the difference ?
    As Clauswitz said, ” War is an act of violence pushed to its utmost bounds. ”

    That is to say, armies are NOT really trained, or intended , for keeping the peace.
    As either Clauswitz or Sun Tzu suggested, their proper function is KILLING PEOPLE AS EFFECTIVELY AS POSSIBLE.

    Now certainly, in some circumstances , killing people as effectively as possible wouldn’t really bother us much .

    But what about the circumstance where your speedometer merely climbed to 15 mph above the limit ?
    Do you want an efficient killer then ?

    Why not both in one ?

    Why not swat flies with a 357 Magnum?

    Why not use an adze as a Phillips head screwdriver ?

    Now on its face , I must admit the idea of civilians in uniform keeping the peace sounds very attractive . Indeed, it sounds like a good idea.

    But as I already indicated with the sheriffs , there the line between the army, the very thing you want to get away from , and policing , was already blurred .

    And it is not too great an exaggeration to say that before the ink on the Peelian Reform was even dry, interested parties were doing their level best to blur the line.

    But then even the Brits , in common with the rest of old Europe, seem pre-disposed to be boot-lickers .

    — Or maybe the English never were even incrementally different ? As I have said before, the Celts, ( Irish , Scottish, and Welsh ) are a race of crazy people. And insanity is problematical when it comes to tractability.

    In America, for a brief time anyway, circumstances alluded to in the TV show , ” The Andy Griffith Show ” , and the recent movie, ” No Country for Old Men ” , had some actual basis in reality.

    In the former, the militaristic, Fascistic Barney Fief would be a figure of contempt, if he were not dismissed as a figure of fun.

    The exaltation of power ? Martial display ? what do we need with that shit when we have common sense , self-restraint, and better things to do anyway ?

    The ideal character, was only barely recognizable as other than a civilian .

    And commonly, incredibly, yes, they went about unarmed.

    Especially so , considering the environment. Every boy carried a knife, not a few girls too. Armed men were normal , and armed women were not unusual if pissed off for some reason. An expression I used to commonly hear from Old folks , regarding the old folks that came before them , was , they were “Hard People. ”

    Generally these Hard People had to work very hard, and the perks in life were few. And perhaps attendant apon that, their tempers could be hair-trigger , and they were sensitive to slights —and damn well recognized a slight for what it was.

    Searches ? Not unless you absolutely, positively had to do so.

    If it was a Jesse James type, then certainly you went armed and with friends, because you were sure to be shot at.

    In the case of more civilized , respectable folk, you went to the door , unarmed, explained in detail and as solicitously as possible why you had to search , and you hoped you didn’t get shot.

    But it was a brief time, how brief an ephemeral you can detect in that while vestiges of that time have survived to the present, often as not people have no idea the how and why of it.

    The trend was always toward old Europe , and the idea, implicit if not explicit, that the police is only to be another military force for the Princes , but this one directed inward, not outward .

    So, no, the police are barely 200 years old , and even then the story is riddled with equivocations and caveats.

    Otherwise , it is the army by another name , and not aimed at this particular bad guy, or that particular bad guy , such pretty distinctions are not made on battlefields . It is aimed at your own kind, indiscriminately and generally .

    —–

    ” Share with us, please, a viable alternative…. ”

    I do not agree with this.

    That is, it seems the context here is that you are suggesting you have an alternative , and are then asking me if I have a better alternative.

    I do not think you actually have an alternative. There is SOME truth in it . The rest is shear imposture.

    Very like the discussion Volodya and I have been having about the education racket, I think that in the mundane sense it is a jobs program , and elaborate system of patronage .
    It is Tammany Hall.

    On this score solely, frankly, I would scarce have any complaint.

    But I think the picture is much darker .

    ” Why should a government that increasingly limits the sphere of freedom, privacy, and choice in every other area show such consistent favor to sexual libertarianism alone? Because the traditional code is designed to support the family as the basic unit of society, and the family, like religion and private property, is one of the foundations of liberty and resistance to monolithic state power.

    Without religion, the state faces no rival moral authority. Without property, freedom has no material basis, and everyone becomes dependent on the state for support. And without the family, the individual belongs almost wholly to the state, with no stable competing loyalty.

    The sexual revolution is really an attack on the cellular structure of society. Under communism, “free love,” including abortion, was the only freedom left, because it’s the only freedom the total state finds congenial. Citizenship ceases to be just one aspect of identity and becomes your only identity. In short order, citizenship is reduced to total subjection to the state. ”
    — Joseph Sobran

    About property I have little to say.

    Regarding family ; few men, and few women either, want to admit they are subordinates in their own house . lackeys, a secondary consideration , in their own house .
    And not even some jerk next door is in charge, like with slaves in the old days, but subordinate to strangers far away.
    But that is the case now.

    Families can leave a great deal to be desired, they may just plain suck, they may even be monstrous, but they are not strangers , and they are not far away.

    This may be an exceedingly dubious benefit , but something is better than nothing .

    And I would argue that, generally, strangers far away are nothing.
    NOTHING.

    I do not think it is unreasonable to say that 9 times out of 10, the very best and most constructive thing you can do for AN INDIVIDUAL stranger far away is to write that individual a big check, or, if that is not possible, then a lot of little checks.

    But then notice how this is the very thing people most object to !

    Let us consider a group, as if you can wrap your heart and mind around a group better than you can around one .

    Let us pour money into an elaborate bureaucracy — which will almost certainly seek to benefit its amediate members before it benefits any other , and which is at an even greater remove in distance and empathy.

    As regards religion ;

    Let us consider a penniless orphan in Somalia . He lost his whole family to the civil war at the grand old age of two. As i said, he is penniless , even the clothes on his back and the bowl he eats out of are second-hand cast offs.
    With the Civil war, orphans abound in plenty, and he does not particularly stand out.
    At the grand old age of , say, 8 , he shares the fate of the rest of his family , and is killed . His body is dumped like garbage in with many other bodies in a ditch, and within the year the location of the grave is forgotten, and before that even his name and face are forgotten, his very existence forgotten.

    Now if there is no loving God, and even more so, no afterlife , how does right and wrong, or justice , apply TO HIM ?

    He is a hypothetical ? Not if YOU are him. And there have been many hims.

    What is , ” on offer ” today, and I really think I do have to put that in quotation marks, what is the “alternative ” ?

    Is to focus only and solely on the happy moment, for the fortunate few.

    What of the grim future ? NOT TO BE DISCUSSED . NOT ON THE TABLE AT ALL.

    What of the unfortunate , no , the DAMNED AND DOOMED many ? We won’t really discuss or consider that either.

    It does not look at all to me like taking a hard look at the truth, and let the chips fall where they may. But rather, consistent and deliberate evasion.

    As I have said before elsewhere , it is creative accounting ( i.e. let us look only at these few, and as for those others………. )

    And a quibble over time . ( i.e. only this happy moment . That evil and obscene moment that cannot be recalled, that literally empty and non-existent future …….never mind. )

    No, there is no alternative here. In the past 500 years, and at an ever accelerating rate the past 200 years, only ever heavier and heavier and heavier applications of brute force , and to gain a position which by definition can only be transient , and only for a few.

    Increasingly, we do not have loved ones , and we are not offered the possibility or hope of anything better.

    But, ok, let us say I am not being fair , or giving any credit.

    Let us say your question is valid .

    1 . Put police in the ugliest, most demeaning, most uncomfortable and inconvenient uniforms you can devise. I do not think this would be necessarily difficult. I think the typical jail house uniform is intended to be ugly and demeaning. The Burger king uniform, while i do not think it is intended to be ugly, is intended to be ever so subtly demeaning.

    2 . Make the police as much as possible conscripted. With as few deferrals as possible. You would rather go to college instead ? Too bad, you will have to put that on hold awhile. You are not an assertive type, and you recoil at the sight of blood ? So much the better ! Take your lumps then on principle. Is there any greater reward than that ?
    You are in a wheelchair ? Well, we could use you then as a human traffic light.

    3 . Benefits — benefits ? this is about realism, this is about pragmatism, this is about painful necessity ! Your people and country have need ! Your terrible cross to bare !

    well, ok, there should be something . When this duty is completed , and if you are still breathing, you get a thank you. Good bye.

    If , say, you should lose your legs while in service , then after you are discharged , you may continue to wear that crappy uniform, and sit on a street corner with your tin cup, and ask passers-by for donations . Could there be any prouder station than that ?

    4 . Some regular police will undoubtedly be required. I guess we must pay them something halfway decent. Conscripts get minimum wage, and no overtime.

    5. Civilian law as to be as before, but police law absolutely draconian. That is, if, as a civilian , you accidentally kill someone , the usual laws apply. If as a police conscript though, you accidentally kill someone, you are frog-marched out and shot.

    This has already been a very long essay, so I will end it here , and add only one more comment.

    What I have proposed seems to me entirely consistent with the claim that the family and religion are not superior authorities, and that claims to power generally are well-intended.

  96. Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2017 at 12:15 am #

    Here’s a good refutation of Anarchism. Achtung Ozone.

    Being generous one could say that we are all better off for having eccentric thinkers around to challenge our preconceptions, and make us dig harder to get to the fundamentals of our beliefs.

    Having said that: the Anarchist position has been around for many years, and has yet to deliver much in the way of improved human well being, so it seems completely fair to place it in the category of: ‘hopelessly Utopian ideas”, along with Communism, Socialism, and John Lennon’s “Imagine”.

    Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, 1809 – 1865 is usually considered the first in the long line of philosophers espousing anarchism. He liked the term “mutualism”, but was, according to his WIkipedia biography, the first person to publicly self-identify as an anarchist.

    His best-known assertion is that Property is Theft!, contained in his first major work, What is Property? Or, an Inquiry into the Principle of Right and Government

    Let us then, take him at his word, and imagine a world without property. Certainly property, and ownership of property, has been a hallmark of Civilization since it’s inception. Historically the idea of bands of people settled and “owning” a piece of land, either collectively as a group to the exclusion of other groups, or individually as part of a formal hierarchy of partial-ownership dates back to the first cities and states of history, and is generally viewed as a part of the transition from the paleolithic to neolithic era in human social development. Along with written language to keep track of the existing ownership of said stolen property.

    Without the concept of property we were able to survive as hunter-gatherers for many hundreds of thousands of years, so it has been proven to work, but the maximum human population of the Earth in the neolithic era is estimated at about 4 to 6 million people.

    As soon as a group starts planting crops in the spring, by diligently saving seeds from the preceding years, they are invested in eating those plants at some later date, and naturally object to the “others” who, espousing Bupperist Beliefs, explain that “property is theft” and go ahead and take the plants they find based on there superior philosophy.

    Buppert and his ilk wish to heap upon the boogie-man “The State” every evil of the human condition since the beginning of the Neolithic era of settled human habitations, without conceding that almost all human progress in that period has taken place within the context of groups of humans organizing into larger and larger political entities, from villages to cities, to duchies, to principalities, to nation states to empires.

    There does seem to be some ebb-and flow among these various sized groupings, with the attempts to get too many people under one system inevitably collapsing and returning to more manageable sizes.

    Civilization is based on property and rules, and while one might hope that all this could be completely voluntary among all humans, there is no example in the 10,000 years of recorded human history of such arrangements ever working. America presented another opportunity for property-less communities to self organize, and many were attempted, from the Shakers to various hippie communes. All ended in failure within a generation.

    I keep reading Buppert hoping for some new insight from him, the secret to the successful implementation of universal mutualism, where some how groups of strong, rude, hungry, armed alpha-males don’t decide to rape and pillage their way across the neighborhood to satisfy their hungers and urges.

    The essence of being a barbarian, in the old school sense of the term, is rejection of norms of civilization, rejection of the property rights of others, and hearty laughter at the idea of “the Non Aggression Principle”. Might makes right, implies self over others. From the real fear of such people societies have grown into Buppert’s hated “States” with all their various rules and requirements, including enforced obedience.

    There have always been those who rejected the forced compliance to rules imposed without consent. For the most part, in a functioning State, if they become to rambunctious in their insistence on non-compliance they are restrained or removed. In the USA our prisons are full of such. (And, some others).

    In BupperTopia presumably the barbarians are free to take what they wish. As soon as men organize to, for instance, stop some semi-nomadic Mad Max like band from stealing and raping, well you are well on your way to the hated State again.

    Imagine is a reasonably good pop song, and anarchism is a fun philosophic pass time for creative thinkers. But neither is a useful mechanism for organizing human societies for peace, productivity, health and happiness. The State, like childhood vaccines, has some downsides, but has proven to be by far the best mechanism yet devised for large scale human existence, which is why it is nearly ubiquitous over the entire Earth, excepting a few paleolithic reservations in Brazil, which exisit as sort of human zoos protected by the force of the State that, litterally, surrounds them.

  97. Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2017 at 1:35 am #

    dailystormer.com/malaysia-lawmaker-states-obvious-fact-that-a-wife-denying-husband-sex-is-abuse/

    How is this even controversial? Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Janet is right: we must return to the Teachings of the Prophet.

    • pequiste July 27, 2017 at 7:54 am #

      Return to the Teachings?

      Only if and when Janet consents to a daily beating or three; a soignee burkha for all exterior excursions ( with a male relative in tow); and some tres special female genital mutilation for very good measure.

      N’oubliez pas — the pet dog has to go and you can forget about that glass of chardonnay.

  98. thwack July 27, 2017 at 9:46 am #

    Contemporary journalism is so bad. Its all long on emotion, short on facts.

    For example, that recent amusement park accident at the Ohio State Fair?

    Article after article and none of them provide the NAME of the ride?

    How difficult is that?

    This is why I often skip articles and go straight to the comments section.

    • thwack July 27, 2017 at 10:06 am #

      Also, how old is the ride?

      People are a lot fatter than they used to be?

      Maybe they need to remove some seats to reduce the weight of all the extra blubber people carry around these days?

      Just sayin

  99. sophia July 27, 2017 at 11:37 am #

    Janos,

    re: 4. I don’t endorse such things – just saying that Indians don’t have the moral high ground over us.

    Have you seen the book The Wisdom of the Native Americans? Good little book. I don’t think we can generalize here into them and us. “We” are many nations with differing approaches and problems through time. There have been a few cases, or one that I know of, in which the Native Americans were fighting to a more pathological degree. But if fighting is limited in scope to the ones you listed, that does seem different to me than wars of elimination. The Indians also consider themselves nations, but not the continent, just the differing tribes. Perhaps they should be called peoples.

    3. Good point. The dharma has been twisted and the twisted version (sluts) has been shouted to the skies. Now they are really pushing women as killers – big time.

    You mean military?

    2. Can’t relate to this. Everything you say seems driven by your Wiccan Metaphysic of Female Supremacy. Not buying it

    Why can’t you related to me saying I understand the male psyche fairly well? And stop it already with the Wiccan nonsense. I am not Wiccan, never have been, am not particularly attracted to that type of spirituality. I have not been to university and don’t drink their Kool aid. My brand of female supremacy is my own, one that I developed by thinking deeply about it. And I don’t believe in female supremacy anyway, that is your interpretation of my defense of the ACTUAL EXISTENCE of the universal feminine, which is erased in Christianity and in my opinion is the source of women’s dissatisfaction.

    1. Easy. We founded America. Nations by definition (see the etymology) mean a specific people, not a place. They were just living here. We took it from them. Aboriginals or Indigenous are appropriate words. But the first Americans? Bullshit. A masterpiece of propaganda that got by us while we slept.

    Not buying it. The Indians, both in the north and south continents had many nations, and invented much of value. They don’t have to be an exact replica of European styles to deserve respect. And, our civilization has not lived up to its own values and is on a crash course with its own greed.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

      4. You don’t know much about the Indians, obviously. Many of the Tribes or Nations were very warlike indeed. Again, they fought in different kinds of ways for different reasons: fun, honor, excitement, getting women and cattle, get women back home (honor), access to resources, grudges, etc. Your view is the New Age/Hollywood view, assiduously fostered on by our racial enemies, the you know whos.

      3. Military of course, but I was thinking of the movies: endless gun toting alpha females now, with male side kicks. A reversal of the natural order. That being said, I’m fine with women knowing how to shoot and being able to defend themselves. Once some drunken English soldiers overcame the guard and gained entranced to the Dakineshwar Temple. The Rani (Princess, a disciple of Ramakrishna) who worshiped there realized what had happened and picked up a weapon, waiting to defend the inner sanctum if need be. Blood was averted when some other soldiers stopped them.

      2. You may have some inner experience as a male, perhaps even your interpretation of it is correct. But it doesn’t inform your viewpoints. Rather it’s just something to trot out to deflect criticism. Women often have a store of such stories. As a female supremacist, you don’t think much of men. I feel the same about most women. So we’re even? No, I’m right and you’re wrong. Men are better.

      1. There would be no America but for the Conquest. Everything you have and are is because of the Conquerors. You own them a reverence approaching worship. If you are an Indian, you aren’t going to see it that way. I’m fine with that. Bearing the hatred of the Conquered is the Duty of the Conquerors. Again, we’re not all going get in a giant Circle of Love across the World. That’s Coca-Cola propaganda to the tune of John Lennon (a man of immense hatreds btw).

  100. volodya July 27, 2017 at 11:42 am #

    Kesa anna, there’s a great deal that’s not sustainable in our present-day living arrangements, a lot of which get discussed week-in and week-out, and the one you discussed at length in your comment, the system of law enforcement, is one of them. Armed constables with cars and radios and dash-cams and body-cams and a prison complex with multitudes locked up for decades: IMO say good-bye to all that.

    The question is what replaces it all. Clearly, this system with the attending phalanxes of lawyers and social workers and parole officers and prison guards, eats enormous resources. JHK sez and I fully agree, that a cosmic price discovery is inevitable and in this apocalypse the discovery of what this costs will be upon us.

    Then what? There will be the High-and-Mighty, the – cough – “Thinking Class” that will shake their jowls and furrow their brows and tell us we can’t afford to not do this or that. But they’re Intellectuals and as such fail to understand the simple facts of physics, of LIFE, that we cannot be expending more calories than we harvest, we cannot be using more energy than we harness. It’s not that you can defy the laws of thermodynamics and the many other habits of the universe.

    Maybe look to the past for a view into the future. They used to hang people for theft. And why? Imagine a world where it’s impossible to keep bad actors in jail for months or years or decades because you simply have not got the means.

    Will there be enforcement? Yes, of sorts. Will it have all the attendant legal niceties clustered about it? Maybe not.

    Look to the Ten Commandments. In my view those ten simple rules that any illiterate shepherd could put to memory came out of the collapse of civilization more than three thousand years ago. People had to abandon age-old towns and cities and go on the run inland and they needed rough and ready moral and legal codes. No time, no inclination for legalistic or moralistic hair-splitting.

    What comes out of all this? Some acts will be seen as intolerable. Maybe they will hang bandits at the roadside as an example. We see stoning of adulterers as intolerable because such an act as stoning looks disproportionate to the moral offense and so defies our own values of justice and mercy and compassion. But maybe we can afford justice and mercy and compassion. Maybe, in a future of shorter and sicker and hungrier lives, adultery will be dealt with harshly because it will be seen as destructive to social peace and therefore unaffordable. IOW life is too damn short.

    Will there be a blurring between military force and civilian enforcement? Maybe. A lot of maybes.

    • ozone July 27, 2017 at 4:08 pm #

      V.,
      Those in charge of the present power structures do not approve of these speculations regarding the near future (…or where the exits or temporary escape routes might be). They would appreciate it if you’d just pick a pigeon-hole ideology and tattoo it on your forehead (…or forearm, if you prefer).

      After the actual energy costs are revealed (to “everyone’s” shock and horror), you surmise:

      “There will be the High-and-Mighty, the – cough – “Thinking Class” that will shake their jowls and furrow their brows and tell us we can’t afford to not do this or that. But they’re Intellectuals and as such fail to understand the simple facts of physics, of LIFE, that we cannot be expending more calories than we harvest, we cannot be using more energy than we harness. It’s not that you can defy the laws of thermodynamics and the many other habits of the universe.”

      Yep. This would also be the basic flaw and major malfunction of the ideologically rigid who seem to think that by warping the narrative or revising the story, they can manufacture a reality that comports to those mouthings. When you don’t allow yourself to see beyond your nose, you’re most certainly going to trip over something. (And that something could be quite unpleasant.)

  101. FincaInTheMountains July 27, 2017 at 1:06 pm #

    Back in the USSR

    I got the text of the new sanctions law with comments. In the law, I can’t figure out heads from tails yet, but if the comments are correct, then these sanctions practically throw Russia out of the world capitalist system.

    After them, you can safely confiscate all American property in Russia, not only public, but also private, as Kudrin’s stash certainly will not be returned and under the circumstances it will not cause the collapse of the dollar or even of the bond market.

    In essence, this is a war!

    With the same success you can announce the re-creation of the USSR.

    And I hope that NATO will be given 72 hours to liberate the occupied territories of the Warsaw Pact countries. The only obstacle is petty-bourgeois instincts (I do not mean the instinct of self-preservation) of the big Russian bourgeoisie, but if we consider that the greater part of the Russian bourgeoisie was actually made in the USSR, then I think they will quickly agree on what this all mean for them and remember in time about the salvation of the plea bargain.

    Socialism in this situation arises as a geopolitical and economic necessity, and not the result of political philosophy. Only the idea of the Juche – everything for themselves to produce themselves – in the case of Russia imposed on Putin by the Americans.

    So, it’s not for nothing that Russia, North Korea and Iran are on the same list with the same tag on their finger.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

    The most horrible thing is that this is the only realistic scenario of the development of events so far!

    Yes, on November 7 this year they will celebrate with great pomp and it seems that Europe was scared of this.

    I am trying to come up with alternative scenario and it seems some ideas start to come to mind.

    youtube.com/watch?v=mDZjlyWOB6E

  102. Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2017 at 2:08 pm #

    Lesbian Left lays down Law to the Jews. Intersectionality, yo. Ax Ozone for the definition.

    Are you a Jew in Chicago who’d like to march for LGBTQ rights and gender equality? You’ll have to follow a few rules, helpfully laid out in recent weeks by the Chicago Dyke March and the Chicago SlutWalk.

    First, you must not carry any “Zionist displays.” What are Zionist displays? That’s for others to decide. A Star of David might be OK. But if it’s on a rainbow flag, it probably isn’t because “its connections to the oppression enacted by Israel is too strong for it to be neutral.”

    Second, you must express solidarity with Palestine. Marching in a parade with a pro-Palestinian stance is not sufficient, nor is advocating for a Palestinian state. As an openly Jewish person, you’ll need to satisfy more heightened scrutiny; other marchers may repeatedly demand that you disavow Israel and swear allegiance to the Palestinian cause. You must comply with these demands or else you will be expelled.

    Third, you must renounce any previous connections you have had with Israel. Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of a group with ties to Israel? Repudiate and repent. Openly Jewish marchers are presumed to be in league with the Israeli government unless they can prove otherwise.

    Janos: I might add the question: Have you now or have you ever engaged in Homosexuality and other advanced Occult practices? As most of you know, one of my lives was as an Inquisitor and Prosecutor in the Inquisition – work both wet and dry!

    Ask Sophia for clarification. She may have been my brother during that life. A humble cleric and scribe if memory serves. He fully supported my work.

  103. FincaInTheMountains July 27, 2017 at 2:53 pm #

    The new just adopted sanctions effectively blocks the implementation of the Nord Stream-2 and Turkish Stream gas pipeline projects, which must provide Germany and other EU countries with Russian gas.

    Europe perfectly understands that the supply of natural gas through the transit territory of Ukraine is an unreliable business (the risk of increasing transit payments, theft of gas, unavoidable technical failures due to outdated equipment, etc.). Both the American and European business, which will participate in the project as consultants, contractors, suppliers and investors, will be under the Damocles sword. Since the law passed by Congress is a packet and concerns also Iran: it provides for measures to block gas supplies to the European market from that country.

    Washington, unashamedly, proposes to increase the “energy security” of Europe through the supply of liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the United States. At the same time, forgetting the dogmas of the “market economy”, Washington explains to its “allies”: security costs extra money. But Europe does not want to pay tens of billions of dollars of extra money (to fully replace Russian gas with US LNG at higher prices).

    I have a feeling that the security of the passage of tankers with American LNG to Europe could be in great jeopardy of hitting an unexpected iceberg in the warm Mediterranean waters.

    The captain of the iceberg would be awarded the highest Russian Order.

  104. thwack July 27, 2017 at 3:48 pm #

    Thats “Janet” holding the sign

    lol

    paworldandtimes.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/take.jpg

    • janet July 27, 2017 at 4:29 pm #

      Immigrants create jobs for the native-born. If 1,000 new immigrants were to move to your area, thwack, the local economy would end up gaining about 1,200 new jobs. Wages go up for everyone. Your sign is racist, xenophbic, and wrong.

      • JimInFlorida July 27, 2017 at 9:44 pm #

        Not all immigrants are equally valuable. The vast majority of immigration is from low quality 3rd World countries and their impact is undeniably negative.

        So what if the sign is “racist.” It’s not wrong.

  105. janet July 27, 2017 at 4:33 pm #

    Are Immigrants a Shot in the Arm for the Local Economy?
    Gihoon Hong, John McLaren
    NBER Working Paper No. 21123

    Most research on the effects of immigration focuses on the effects of immigrants as adding to the supply of labor. By contrast, this paper studies the effects of immigrants on local labor demand, due to the increase in consumer demand for local services created by immigrants. This effect can attenuate downward pressure from immigrants on non-immigrants’ wages, and also benefit non-immigrants by increasing the variety of local services available. For this reason, immigrants can raise native workers’ real wages, and each immigrant could create more than one job. Using US Census data from 1980 to 2000, we find considerable evidence for these effects: Each immigrant creates 1.2 local jobs for local workers, most of them going to native workers, and 62% of these jobs are in non-traded services. Immigrants appear to raise local non-tradables sector wages and to attract native-born workers from elsewhere in the country. Overall, it appears that local workers benefit from the arrival of more immigrants.

    nber.org/papers/w21123

    • JimInFlorida July 27, 2017 at 9:11 pm #

      Janet, I’ll believe in the legitimacy of the NBER when YOU believe in the dailystormer. BTW, the dailystormer’s views are empirically-backed by real life in Flyover Country.

      This NBER bullshit is cooked up in the sanitary safe-space of a globalist think tank.

      Using some engineered propaganda to back your delusions is like a fox presenting a case study, created by the “Carnivore Foundation” on the benefits of foxes living in hen houses. Their study PROVES why sharing a few eggs with the foxes is a healthy motivator to produce more eggs. Thus increasing productivity among the hens. The foxes also provide a valuable service in downsizing less motivated and less productive hens. Finally, the foxes bring in their friends i.e. the hawks, snakes, and rats. Thus adding to the DIVERSITY of life in the hen house.

      WITH ALL OF THAT, how can ANYBODY be against foxes living in hen houses? Only racists, bigots, and anti-carnies like me and Janos.

  106. FincaInTheMountains July 27, 2017 at 6:03 pm #

    Schizophrenia comes to replace surrealism

    Ukrainization of the USA gains momentum

    US threatened Russia with a response to possible arrest of US diplomatic property in Russia:

    “The American side warned that if Russia takes action in connection with the arrest of Russia’s diplomatic property in the US, Washington will react to such acts as a separate demarche, followed by counter-actions”.

    As a citizen of the United States, I will allow myself to explain the American position:
    Russian property in the United States was arrested in punishment for the bad behavior of the Russian Federation, and the arrest of American diplomatic assets in Russia is hooliganism.

    In short – we are good, we really are, why you want to punish us?

    In fact, US diplomats are sitting on suitcases in connection with the change of ambassador, and the United States is very nervous that Russia is going ahead with counter-sanctions, as they were counting on the expulsion of diplomats who were going to leave anyway, and seems that new, “fresh” employees are on the line to be tossed out.

    Trolling of the Deep State:

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – US President Donald Trump can veto a bill to impose new sanctions against Russia to achieve “an even stricter agreement,” White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci said on Thursday.
    “He can sign the bill in its current form or impose a veto on sanctions and agree on an even stricter agreement with Russia,” Scaramucci said in an interview with CNN.
    Chairman of the Senate Committee on International Relations Bob Corker said that US congressmen reached an agreement allowing the Senate to adopt a draft law on sanctions this week.

    The US House of Representatives on Tuesday approved by an overwhelming majority the imposition of new sanctions against Russia and obliged Trump to obtain permission from Congress before easing the sanctions against Moscow.

    This is from the same series as the requirement to investigate Russia’s assistance in the election of Obama in response to an investigation into Trump’s relations with Russia. Trolling is as trolling does. As it turned out, a very effective technique