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     Well, at least the poobahs cleared a path to the annual orgy of Christmas, which, along with the S & P 500, have become proxies for the American economy. Lately, the Christmas season starts directly after Halloween, so, the whole fourth quarter of the year becomes a circus of ceremonial distractions. In the background, though, the nation grinds toward anguish, measured in soiled Justin Bieber dolls deposited in the landfills.

     Historians who look back on these strange years of suspended consequence will marvel at how this empire of grift kept its wheels turning after its engine died. Being on the downhill slope is often enough to keep anything going. One might think the young people of this land would be seething at the eclipse of their futures, but it seems they have been successfully lobotomized with cell phones — when the endorphin hits lag between text messages, they can watch sitcoms, or porn.

    You can be sure there will be a snapback from all this drift and anomie, and when it comes, the snap will be savage. Like the US economy, the Republican Party is dead but hasn’t gotten the news. It killed itself just as the Whigs did in the years before the Civil War, by splitting up into factions — one faction of “know-nothings” preoccupied with scape-goats opposed to a faction of sclerotic parasitical fat-cats too timid and greedy to engage in the emergencies of the day.

     The Tea Party faction should change its name to the Cracker Party because it represents the interests of white southerners who are too dumb to know what these emergencies amount to. They are really more comfortable with the supernatural, hence their fondness for religions based on snake-handling, visitations of the dead, and motor sports. Personally, I believe they will eventually contrive to form their own break-away Cracker Republic and attempt to re-enact the Civil War. They will fail, and starve, and find themselves back in an even worse long-term depression than Dixieland experienced from 1860 to 1960, in a de-suburbanized wasteland of bare subsistence farming. Their highest art will be soup-making.

     The non-Tea Party Republicans will just shrivel and vanish out of sheer irrelevance. This leaves the Democrats to become the focus of intense ire as they attempt to ‘splain why the nation’s affairs went to shit on their watch. A lot of them will end up being executed and plundered by the new kid on the block, the Savior Party, led by some charismatic character willing to ignore procedural protocols to clear away the debris left by his-or-her predecessors. Alas, the juice will not be there to permit the Savior to really control a territory as large as the continental USA. By juice, I mean money and oil. Thus, the nation enters its new dark age.

    Who knows when that will get underway in earnest, though I think the folks who say 2014 are onto something. If you believe in cycles, which I tend to, then it rhymes nicely with 1814 and 1914, two watersheds when one epoch ended and another truly began. 2014 would logically be the year that China tells America to go piss up a rope. The message would be sent on the back of the envelope containing $2.7 trillion in official American debt paper. As Ole Blue Eyes used to say, this could be the start of something big.

      Sentient observers of the current scene are clearly frustrated by the remarkable homeostasis that seems to rule the scene, these horse-latitudes of history where the air is still and nothing moves and the mind is exhausted by watchful waiting. Things will get lively, soon enough, so enjoy the holiday quarter of the year which is so soon upon us. Gorge on candy corn. When you recover from that, roast a turkey. Then make a nice figgy pudding. Then pop some bubbly and salute your loved ones. Then gird your loins for the new age of consequence.

 

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James Howard Kunstler is the author of many books including (non-fiction) The Geography of Nowhere, The City in Mind: Notes on the Urban Condition, Home from Nowhere, The Long Emergency, and Too Much Magic: Wishful Thinking, Technology and the Fate of the Nation. His novels include World Made By Hand, The Witch of Hebron, Maggie Darling — A Modern Romance, The Halloween Ball, an Embarrassment of Riches, and many others. He has published three novellas with Water Street Press: Manhattan Gothic, A Christmas Orphan, and The Flight of Mehetabel.

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  1. Panic October 25, 2013 at 6:54 pm #

    I have been reading / skimming the comments here, with the fair share of male anti bonding [tribal warfare] snipes included.

    In any case, when does the USA financial collapse happen?
    JHK? Any facts appearing in yr crystal ball?

    Anyone w any answer? Hazard a guess?

  2. Q. Shtik October 25, 2013 at 8:50 pm #

    “In any case, when does the USA financial collapse happen? …. Anyone w any answer? – Panic
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    January 16, 2014 @ 2:16pm

  3. Pucker October 25, 2013 at 9:36 pm #

    I was surprised to hear that young people today masturbate through the Internet. Apparently, they use web cams and other technological devices to facilitate the process.

    It sounds so debase. My initial reaction was “Jeez…either go out and get the real thing, or if that’s too much trouble or you’re in a hurry, then grab a pillow!”

    The idea of spending money to acquire these gadgets, download the software, etc. in order wack off seems so garish and twisted. Perhaps, because of the Internet, they’ve lost the ability to interact with real people? Or they have developed a perverse sense of Reality, and think that Virtual Reality is Reality. Disturbing….

  4. Pucker October 25, 2013 at 9:39 pm #

    I suppose that one disturbing effect of the Internet is the blurring of the Real and the Unreal.

    If so, then to the Internet generation, then there may not be any psychic difference between the deaths of Real people and the deaths of virtual people.

    We could be creating a Sick Society.

  5. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 12:44 am #

    This Political Correctness stuff has gotten all out-of-control.

    i went into the local shopping mall the other day to buy some stockings for my wife.

    The black sales girl got all upset when I asked where I could find some “panty hose.”

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 2:08 am #

      The black sales girl got all upset.

      More hate filled crapola!!

      Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date but I challenge all good dogs to confront you, defy you, and shut YOU down.

      • Arn Varnold October 26, 2013 at 3:21 am #

        Why not put that energy into getting rid of Vlad?
        This blogs tolerance of that waste of human flesh is, quite frankly, beyond my comprehension.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2013 at 6:39 pm #

          You hate me because you fear me. You know that I would best you in a debate. In other words, deep down you know your ideas are crap and that Blacks are different to Whites and by own values, inferior.

          • Arn Varnold October 26, 2013 at 8:54 pm #

            See, there you go again. You are wrong (as usual).
            I don’t hate you; how could I, I don’t even know you.
            I despise you and every thing you are alleged to stand for. You aren’t even a real persona; just an actor trying hard to create chaos and stir the pot of controversy. You are one sick puppy (my apologies to puppies).
            You are a despicable bag of flesh parading as a human.
            Crawl back into the cesspool from which you oozed.

  6. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 3:02 am #

    The purpose of that joke was to mock all of your racism.

  7. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 3:05 am #

    That’s all you blokes talk about on this website: Black this, and white that, and shit this, and shit that, race this, and race that…..Stick your finger in your anus this, and stick your finger in your anus that…..

  8. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 3:14 am #

    “Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date…”

    So some of you blokes masturbate through the Internet?

    That’s not psychologically healthy……

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 11:20 am #

      Explain the connection asshole. Explain it to all. You quote me because I type this.

      “Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date…”

      and then you type this:

      “So some of you blokes masturbate through the Internet?”

      Obviously you want to portray me as some kind of pervert. I’ll not take the bait. If I were a pervert tell the world how YOU would know about it. How would you know even know who I am so that you could make such an accusation in the first place.

      You want to say I’m a pervert. I deny it. I’m a healthy normal guy who’s got nothing to hide. So tell the world how you would know otherwise.

      Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date but the problem is asshole I’ve nothing to hide.

  9. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 3:31 am #

    It’s probably o.k. to masturbate in a traditional way with your hand or a pillow, etc. every now-and-then. Don’t over do it.

    But don’t masturbate with some stranger through a webcam.

    Jeez…..

    That’s not real.

    One benefit of traditional masturbation is that at least one isn’t affecting the female. But with masturbation through the Internet and some webcam you get the worst of both worlds: It’s not real and it also negatively affects the other person. It gives rise to perversion.

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 11:21 am #

      Explain the connection asshole. Explain it to all. You quote me because I type this.

      “Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date…”

      and then you type this:

      “So some of you blokes masturbate through the Internet?”

      Obviously you want to portray me as some kind of pervert. I’ll not take the bait. If I were a pervert tell the world how YOU would know about it. How would you know even know who I am so that you could make such an accusation in the first place.

      You want to say I’m a pervert. I deny it. I’m a healthy normal guy who’s got nothing to hide. So tell the world how you would know otherwise.

      Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date but the problem is asshole I’ve nothing to hide.

  10. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 3:48 am #

    How common is “cybersex” now in the U.S.?

    You wouldn’t want children doing that. It’d turn some children eventually into psychopaths.

    They’ll start to compartmentalize it. They’ll appear like “normal” people, but then when they get a private moment, they’ll log onto the computer to look at their secret stash of porn.

    I haven’t made any effort to search the Internet for porn, but I have a nervous hunch that there’s probably some very sick, violent porn that can be found on the internet. One could create a large cohort of psychopaths in the society.

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 11:22 am #

      Explain the connection asshole. Explain it to all. You quote me because I type this.

      “Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date…”

      and then you type this:

      “So some of you blokes masturbate through the Internet?”

      Obviously you want to portray me as some kind of pervert. I’ll not take the bait. If I were a pervert tell the world how YOU would know about it. How would you know even know who I am so that you could make such an accusation in the first place.

      You want to say I’m a pervert. I deny it. I’m a healthy normal guy who’s got nothing to hide. So tell the world how you would know otherwise.

      Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date but the problem is asshole I’ve nothing to hide.

  11. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 4:23 am #

    I am getting a nervous feeling that in the U.S. now perhaps the Ethics of society is not necessarily an Ethics formed of reasoned principles based upon rational precepts based upon Reality, but rather maybe just a total lack of any kind of moral boundaries whatsoever?

    Anything goes, so to speak…..Moral debasement….

    Maybe this is why there’s so much Fraud now?

    One tries to criticize child pornography and he/she is attacked on the basis that he/she is wrong to make people feel guilty.

    Jeez…..

    Maybe the Tea Partiers are our only hope?

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 11:23 am #

      Explain the connection asshole. Explain it to all. You quote me because I type this.

      “Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date…”

      and then you type this:

      “So some of you blokes masturbate through the Internet?”

      Obviously you want to portray me as some kind of pervert. I’ll not take the bait. If I were a pervert tell the world how YOU would know about it. How would you know even know who I am so that you could make such an accusation in the first place.

      You want to say I’m a pervert. I deny it. I’m a healthy normal guy who’s got nothing to hide. So tell the world how you would know otherwise.

      Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date but the problem is asshole I’ve nothing to hide.

  12. michigan_native October 26, 2013 at 7:15 am #

    The old south will attempt to re-enact the Civil War. For some reason, the new rules stated we can’t post links to youtube videos. That kinda bummed me out. I always remember the words of this sage when I think of the inbreds. Roger Miller’s “you can’t roller skate in a buffalo herd”. I am so glad he warned me, I had this bizarre desire to do that some time


  13. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 12:05 pm #

    K-Dog, What did you mean when you wrote: ““Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date…””?

    I reasonably inferred that you must have meant that I might have been trying to make some people feel guilty for engaging in Cybersex.

    If you don’t engage in Cybersex, that’s great! I was starting to worry that this website is inhabited by racists and perverts.

    I think that JHK made the point that millennials may be “lobotomized” by cellphones and cybersex, and, therefore, won’t protest the theft of their futures.

    By the way, what is a “K-Dog”? Does it refer to “Killer-Dog”? Like a “dang good, dang tasty Hot Dog? I haven’t had a tasty weiner in a while. Thanks.

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 5:19 pm #

      Reasonable questions deserve reasonable answers. I’m going to address this comment in full detail later. I am not going to do so in the entirety I’d like to now because it is Saturday and Ms. Dog and I have some things to do. I’ll return with part 2 later. Part 2 will address:

      “Your purpose here is to make the rest of us feel unclean in your presence hoping we go away. You have been successful to date…”

      I’m seeing a response that could easily exceed five hundred words there. Not that it will when I do, but it could.

      I’ll address this part now.

      “I reasonably inferred that you must have meant that I might have been trying to make some people feel guilty for engaging in Cybersex.”

      That was not a reasonable inference and anyone checking upstream will see that you brought up cybersex. I did not; and you only brought it up after I had already made my critical comment to you. There is some serious temporal dissonance in your ‘reasonable’ inference.

      That you would feel good about me not engaging in cybersex is something I really don’t care about. The true fact is I’ve better things to do with my time if anyone cares to know but I really don’t care if you care. What you were doing is barking up the wrong tree and trying to see if any mud would stick to the wall.

      JHK’s text is:

      “but it seems they have been successfully lobotomized with cell phones — when the endorphin hits lag between text messages, they can watch sitcoms, or porn.”

      JHK does not mention cybersex. You do. JHK mentions porn and he does it in conjunction with sitcoms. What JHK is actually doing is saying that young people move from one sensual rush or distraction to another. JHK is saying that the majority do not have a brain cell devoted to reality, hard questions, or things of any consequence. The beauty of JHK’s writing is that he can say so much with so little. What JHK is not saying in his phrase is that they have been inculcated with false and empty values by old farts. To be young after all is to conform, fit in, and do what is expected.

      Always needing an endorphin rush the young move from sitcom to porn to cell phone and back again. At some point the responsibility certainly becomes theirs but why are they this way in the first place? Who made them this way?

      Who showed the young that all life is supposed to be is one endorphin rush after another? Society? The older generation? Are they the product of broken families and as so had to raise themselves without the wisdom or guidance necessary to do a good job?

      I shall return with part two later.

      • Arn Varnold October 26, 2013 at 9:08 pm #

        K-Dog, Pucker is another phony like Vlad. He claims to live in Asia and thus, because he’s white he has to eat shit. I’m over a decade in Asia and us whites are discriminated against, but in a very positive way. But if Pucker is in Japan, then yes, we are considered barbarians by the Japanese. This place is a zoo, and JHK has no idea how to deal with the crazies.
        But what is most disturbing is the fact that all but 2 or 3 posters defer to Vlad and his ilk.
        I got chastised for going after Pucker at the very first because I recognized him for what he is.
        I mean, just look at his posts. He’s an attention whore like vlad.
        Posting inane nothings…

        • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2013 at 9:22 pm #

          As I said, you are filled with hatred. I’m sure I’m hardly your only target since the Word doesn’t correspond with your little theories very well. Here’s a good article on the cooperative relationship between the Corporate Right and the Anti Fas.

          http://alternativeright.com/blog/category/the-dobermans-of-political-correctness

        • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 10:40 pm #

          You are on the right track and basically have it right. A year ago JHK had a status counter on his home page. I have an identical one on my own web page just like what he used to have. In those bad old days much more information was available as to who was really who and who even existed as a unique carbon based life form and who did not. Pucker has been around a long time as I have I, though I’ve disappeared here and there.

          It is most disturbing that all but 2 or 3 posters defer to Vlad and his ilk. As I said, to date they have been highly successful. Vlad/Radu/Janos poses himself as a hate filled racist and Pucker pretends to be an inane idiot. Both of whom would tend to drive a normal well balanced soul away. When the status counter existed JHK had a notable article in which he observed that his readership seemed to consist of a large number of government employees who spent altogether too much time using government computers to read comments at Clusterfuck Nation when they should be doing the nations work. Push the envelope hard enough as I have and you might be sending a text message to a family member and then suddenly a hyperlink to an article about Jon Corzine the former governor of New Jersey might pop into the center of your message out of thin air.

          I’m going out on a limb here but maybe some of those government computers have special hardware and software built into them and those protections on government surveillance that Mr. Obama talks about may need a bit of work. We don’t want government employees doing things they are not supposed to be doing now do we.

          Recall one of the inane things Pucker said last week or the week before.

          “As long as I have a job where I can wear mirrored sunglasses and carry a gun I don’t care what I do.”

          I’ve always had an exceptional memory.

          Of course he might have been doing a fake ball throw to see if I’d start running and then trip over my front paws when I realized I’d been punked. He likes to amuse himself.

          Who knows?

      • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 10:52 pm #

        Part two. Upon reflection I’m opting for the short version.

        The original comment by Pucker:

        This Political Correctness stuff has gotten all out-of-control.

        i went into the local shopping mall the other day to buy some stockings for my wife.

        The black sales girl got all upset when I asked where I could find some “panty hose.”

        There is no reason the unknown sales girl had to be identified as black. Make no mistake this is not an innocent comment and the sales girl should not be getting upset because a man needs some panty hose. The customer is always right and men do run errands for wives. Ms. Dog is always trying to make me do a few and someday she might even succeed.

        That last part is a joke and panty hose also has some strange uses such as being used as a sieve when canning fruit jam.

        That last part is not a joke. Crushed CrabApple, Grape Juice, stuff like that.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2013 at 6:43 pm #

      The K may mean Kosher as in a Kosher Hot Dog or perhaps Kosher in the sense of being a tamed Gentile who does the will of his masters. Maybe not – I think he is capable of criticizing Israel. Many Gentiles are not on both the Left and the Right, especially the Right these days.

      But I agree: he’s Anti-White and thus a Racist. We need a new word for such White Uncle Toms.

      • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 11:24 pm #

        I remember telling you that it is the first letter in my given name over a year ago. Your superior genes must be suffering from a vitamin deficiency.

        Oh, and say? How do you know I’m white? I don’t recall ever saying so.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 27, 2013 at 5:32 pm #

          I never claimed to have a perfect memory unlike your superman self. And you are White – Blacks don’t do political correctness very well.

          I once expressed sympathy for a Black clerk who had to wear a huge name tag medallion around his neck. He hated me with a pathological hatred after that.

  14. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 8:21 pm #

    I’m not a racist, or, at least, in good faith, I don’t believe that I am a racist. I live in Asia, so I have to eat huge piles of shit for being White, Popular hit singles on the propaganda charts week-after-week, month-after-month, year-after-year, include: “All foreigners are Evil”‘ “All Japanese are Evil”; and “They humiliated us 100 years ago, so we gotta get even now.”

    In any event, on balance, in the U.S., in my view, blacks as a whole, may be more racist than Whites. It’s a bit strange that people may be in denial about this. That Treyvon – Zimmerman charade was quite frankly bizarre. (By the way, whatever happened to the civil trial?) Maybe I’m wrong?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2013 at 9:11 pm #

      Remember, being a Racist is natural – loving your own people in other words. The East Asians are healthier than us. Is this not a good thing – as long as it doesn’t stray into mindless hatred? Hating those who persecute you is rational of course.

      Whites were once racist in both senses of the word. But they threw away both aspects – and then found themselves defenseless before Blacks who hadn’t.

  15. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 8:37 pm #

    I don’t want to sound like a paranoid weirdo prude, but if JHK is even remotely correct that young Americans are “lobotomized” by iphones, and cybersex such that the won’t stand up to protest to defend their futures, then the absolute horror of this is simply mind-boggling!

    A society of males wacking off in front from their computers and webcams, performing some kind of subconscious, ritual literally expelling their spiritual energy and bodily essence into a faceless, unreal, electronic, Orwellian surveillance device, quite frankly, is Satanic!

    And that some people aren’t very, very concerned that young children with very impressionable minds might be viewing some very sick, violent pornography on the Internet is very troubling.

    You don’t want to live in such a sick society. I’m getting an imagine of a society that has overextended itself in all sorts of ways—too far gone…..

  16. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 9:11 pm #

    I read an article recently that said that in Japan many young Japanese people are frigid.

    They think that it may be related to all of the Cybersex in Japan.

    [Hiroshi to his Shrink]

    Hiroshi: “My wife won’t f..ck me. She’ll only f..ck her iPhone.”

  17. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 9:19 pm #

    It’s like those stories about the herds of whales that beach themselves inexplicably.

    Cybersex has made people seemingly very confused about their sexuality, and they can no longer subconsciously differentiate Virtual Reality from Reality.

    Sick…..

  18. michigan_native October 26, 2013 at 9:57 pm #

    Some asked when the US economy will tank, no later then by the end of 2014. As JHK said, when the Chinese finally tell us to go piss up a rope.

    They probably have a good idea that we will never repay all the debt they absorbed/growth they financed. In other words, we stole from them.

    Then we intervene militarily in oil exporting countries where they start to make sweetheart deals, rendering these deals null and void with the assassination and overthrow of governments or OPEC nations that so much as start to think about dumping the dollar.

    When the Chinese started to feast their eyes on Australia’s supply of uranium, the US responded by sending thousands of troops to that nation in an apparent “don’t even think about it” gesture.

    They could dump all of their dollar denominated assets, enter into long term barter arrangements with oil exporting countries, essentially locking the US out of the international oil trade and thus the 70% of energy we need to import. When that does in fact happen, its lights out for the former USA. Either that or the start of WWIII. Either outcome will not be desirable for the suddenly destitute people of the US.

  19. toktomi October 26, 2013 at 10:05 pm #

    Used to be, James, – and I am from the old days – you actually gave a clusterfuck about what is happening and Clusterfuck Nation reflected that. It has been awhile.

    I actually had the thought this morning as I was awakening but still trying to avoid cognizance that it really is all pointless. How in the hell are my descendents going to devolve to the stone age? There is nothing of the stone age earth bounties left to sustain them even if they could figure out the retro technologies. But this stupid fucking survival gene just keeps kicking my ass.

    So, James, say something that I can’t just skim though or totally ignore. You da man! And the end is getting REAL close.

    ~toktomi~

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 11:09 pm #

      I hear what your saying but is it really up to James and other lone voices to solve our problems or is it up to us? Perhaps it is up to all of us to gets some backbone and demand change.

      I really do hear what your saying and agree the ‘nothing we can do’ Zeitgeist needs to stop. There might be some honour in dying trying if that’s the way it goes. There is none in giving up and rolling over.

      I roll over for treats, nothing else.

    • ZrCrypDiK October 26, 2013 at 11:37 pm #

      “There is nothing of the stone age earth bounties left”

      No doubt. “They” (certainly not *me*) clearcut the planet, and poisoned the rest of the land/air/water/sea with carcinogenic hydrocarbons/heavy metals/radioactive material (not to mention silt and nitrogen [herbicide/pesticide] runoff into the rivers, and depletion/concretization of the remaining clay). Only fossil fuel excavations for fertilizer/herbicide/pesticide keep us 7 billion alive now…

      400+ppm CO2, and *EXPONENTIALLY* rising (33% higher than at any time in the last 800,000 years [ice cores]). Where are we in the peak solar irradiance cycle now (2 years in? 5 years in? Just *STARTING*?)?!?

      • ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 1:56 am #

        AND that’s all they *SAID*. Sad state of overconsumption and overpollution…

        Don’t *sweat*?!? they got *plans*@@@

  20. Q. Shtik October 26, 2013 at 11:06 pm #

    “…and Pucker pretends to be an inane idiot.” – Dog
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    What do you mean pretend?

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 11:15 pm #

      His persistency requires craft. True idiots get lucky sometimes.

    • ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 1:57 am #

      Nice 1, *SOKER*!!!

  21. Q. Shtik October 26, 2013 at 11:17 pm #

    “… no later [then] by the end of 2014.” – Mich_Nat
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    than

  22. Q. Shtik October 26, 2013 at 11:20 pm #

    “…that I can’t just skim [though] or totally ignore.” – talk to me
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    through

  23. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 11:26 pm #

    What is a “K-Dog”?

    Why do you personify yourself as a “Dog”?

    And why do you refer to your spouse as a “Dog”, i.e., “Mrs. Dog”?

    Thank you.

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 11:47 pm #

      Ms. Dog.

      I give her more respect than to consider her property. We are going through life together. I love her and she loves me. Lest there be any confusion we are legally married and have been a very long time.

      In one of my last two articles on my website I’ve actually explained part of why I chose that moniker. It was actually coined by someone else, respectfully in a context similar to like being told:

      All right dude, you’re the man!!

      Ms Dog. She’s a Ms. and I’m a Mr. It is called equality. If you’d like to know about what I think about that, here you go:

      http://chasingthesquirrel.blogspot.com/

  24. ZrCrypDiK October 26, 2013 at 11:28 pm #

    NE-1 catch that Chris Hayes “ALL IN” episode, where he had the Fox newz whistle-blower on? Lulz, apparently this whistle-blower describes, in his book about the “Fox Hole,” that Fox had multiple persons employed to respond to NE negative ‘poasts’ in the Fox forum, using 20 different aliases, that were all IP-sourced to separate anonymous bogus IP addresses through a firewall proxy…

    Sound *familiar* (can we say, Soker-Puppet – master debator)?!… *SAME OL’, SAME OL’*!!!

    • K-Dog October 27, 2013 at 12:04 am #

      But at Fox it’s at least still part of the private sector and not funded by tax dollars. Still quite disgusting, but I take it those 20 different aliases did not have a ‘bat phone’ with which discipline insolent dogs.

      Having special powers to protect the secrecy of the game would put things in a very different category. That would be a downright clusterfuck.

      Is there a link to that episode?

      • ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 2:00 am #

        Ironcally *NOT* – but spam fox *MOLE* for “food”…

  25. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 11:32 pm #

    Isn’t the proclivity of males to refer to themselves and other males as a “Dog” part of the urban, black Ghetto culture, similar to references to Whites as “Crackas”, or black females as “Ho’s” and “Bitchas”?

    Isn’t a “Bitch” in Ghetto culture a female “Dog”?

    Thank you.

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 11:50 pm #

      Isn’t the proclivity of males to refer to themselves and other males as a “Dog” part of the urban, black Ghetto culture.

      Yes, as a sign of respect or affection.

  26. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 11:38 pm #

    In some cultures, for example, the Chinese culture, it is very demeaning to refer to oneself or others as a “Dog”.

    In the Chinese culture, referring to someone as a “Dog” suggests that the person has a very slavish, subservient mentality, a boot-licker, ass-kisser, shoe-shiner, brown-noser, an Uncle Tom.

  27. Pucker October 26, 2013 at 11:45 pm #

    The point of my joke above was to mock the fact that some black people use humiliating terms, such as “Dog”, “Ho”, “Nigga”, “Bitch” to refer to themselves and sometimes see outrage where none exists, and, perhaps, take themselves way-too-seriously.

    I apologize if I offended anyone, but, having said that “GROW UP!”

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 11:53 pm #

      But “Dog” is not intended to be or considered to be humiliating.

    • K-Dog October 26, 2013 at 11:54 pm #

      And why do you refer to yourself as Pucker?

      • ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 12:02 am #

        Pother Mucker?!… That’s my guess (you 2 doin’ a good job floodin’ me *out*!).

        • ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 3:05 am #

          Bwah!!! Pother Mucker!!! W#ake teh F*** up!!!

  28. K-Dog October 27, 2013 at 1:27 am #

    Sorry, I don’t mean to flood you out. I want to see that episode. But I don’t hang with mainstream TV news much.

    I’ve been searching for other sources on the story. So far with no luck.

    Is the Whistleblower is Frank Luntlz?

    Which book is it? Can you find the title? If you post the title a trip to a Seattle Bookstore is in my future. I’ll check out anything that mentions multiple persons employed to respond to negative comments. I’m there.

    Here is your comment repeated.

    NE-1 catch that Chris Hayes “ALL IN” episode, where he had the Fox newz whistle-blower on? Lulz, apparently this whistle-blower describes, in his book about the “Fox Hole,” that Fox had multiple persons employed to respond to NE negative ‘poasts’ in the Fox forum, using 20 different aliases, that were all IP-sourced to separate anonymous bogus IP addresses through a firewall proxy…

    Sound *familiar* (can we say, Soker-Puppet – master debator)?!… *SAME OL’, SAME OL’*!!!

  29. Pucker October 27, 2013 at 2:13 am #

    Pucker—as in “Pucker up, baby, and let me lay a big wet one on ya!”

    The photo is a photo of the televangelist Ernest Angley, “God’s Man of the Hour”, and filthy rich millionaire who performs faith healings—”You can have a Miracle!”

    It’s a joke….

  30. Pucker October 27, 2013 at 4:27 am #

    I think that referring to someone as a “Dog” is very humiliating, particularly if the word “Dog” is used in reference to females.

    A female dog, as you know, is a “Bitch”, which connotes an ill-tempered woman who lets any random male “Dog” jump on her when she’s in heat.

    In Chinese, the word for “Bastard” is “Gou Zaizi” (also Tu Zaizi) “Gou” means “dog”.

    In the black Ghetto culture, I guess that when someone refers to himself as a “Dog’ that he thinks of himself as some really “bad” dangerous “gangsta” who humps a lot of “bitches” in heat.

    I don’t think that this is a psychologically healthy way to view oneself.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 27, 2013 at 5:35 pm #

      Kosher Dog wants to be Black. He thinks they are superior.

  31. Pucker October 27, 2013 at 5:01 am #

    That people can’t see that child pornography is wrong or that it’s wrong to refer to one’s self or others as “dog”, “bitch”, “cracka”, “ho”, etc. just shows how far gone our culture has gone. Beached whales….

  32. Deblonay October 27, 2013 at 7:35 am #

    Reading some comments on this site,I fell depressed that the often wise and always pertinant comments of our host JH Kunstler find some poor responces

    Some on this site…some regular contributers.. have nothing to say except to use the site as a place to express prejudices and sometimeshalf madt theories and sayings

    Often they ignore the subject of the week and Kuinstler’s great comments on the decline and fall of the USA are ignored or misunderstood

    As an outside reader(from Australia) I find that sad
    A reguiar visitor and traveller in the USA I note with a deal of sorrow the parlous life of so many there

    The great wealth o0f the USA doesn’t afford a good life …as it could…for all Americans..but just to the priveleged

    Much of the ideas expressed here are an illusion
    The real America is a dark and troubled nation and that”s bad news for much opf the woprld
    The real problem of course is the vast military expenditure
    Till that is tackled there is no hope for many in the USA..so end it
    Like all declining empoires in history.the military is a greed

    • ozone October 27, 2013 at 10:03 am #

      I highly recommend JL Eagan’s “Brain Noise” column below (#7 pingback at the bottom of the page.)

      They’ve brought the 12 gauge semi-auto (with a very large magazine) to the party of blowing gaping holes in the broad side of the barn that houses the sacred tablets of the american zeitgeist.

      A couple snips:

      ” We have a national government trillions of dollars in the hole, from spending trillions and trillions of dollars over decades, not on maintaining a protective defense of the nation, but covering the entire planet with the US military. Then, on top of that, millions of American citizens have been willing to accept sending American military people and equipment and spending hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars in adventures in Afghanistan and Iraq, on the other side of the world, and accept the idea that all that is “defending our freedom”. People who can watch this, and not think there’s something profoundly and massively wrong, are people who are gullible and easily manipulated enough to be shoved into some insane war by people beating the war drum and barking jingoistic nationalistic bullshit.”

      “People buy completely into what they’ve been sold for years about how what’s good for giant corporations and what’s good for Wall Street giant banks and institutions is good for the economy and the nation, and yet then seem completely baffled that “the economy” outside of those entities is such a gigantic raging dysfunctional clusterfuck”

      He (I’m ASSUMING ‘he’) is shooting holes in such diverse planks as political pigeon-holing, appalling hero-worship, financial chicanery, energy delusions and general all ’round pretending and cognitive dissonance. As with Kunstler, he posits that this need not be “the end”, but the realities must be faced and institutions that prop up the pretending should be terminated with extreme prejudice.

      As an aside, I think you’ll agree that any country that becomes ‘a friend’ to the interests of the political oligarchy/administration of the US has made a dangerous pact with da deb’bil, and will live to rue the day it was signed in blood.

  33. Pucker October 27, 2013 at 10:12 am #

    Yes, the military-industrial complex is largely responsible for America’s current predicament. Don’t forget the 1947 decision to create the National Security Council (and the CIA), America’s Secret Government,

    Also very important is the off-shoring of US jobs.

    Read Paul Craig Robert’s the “Failure of Laissez-Faire Capitalism”.

    These are all economic and political causes which are fundamental,, but, in my view, there’s also something very dark and evil happening in the US culture now. People have no moral sense, almost like beached whales, or honey bees that can’t find their hive.

  34. ozone October 27, 2013 at 10:31 am #

    …Just the very tippy-top tip of a massive iceberg, but there’s been a ‘mass banning’ of 250 sock puppet accounts that post to Wikipedia.
    Research it yourself, at… uh… at Wikipedia! (Mebbe not. ;))

    • ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 10:53 am #

      Same ol’, same ol’… :) Can we say, “Infested” (great movie)!!!

      • ozone October 27, 2013 at 11:21 am #

        LOL, Sure ya could!

        • K-Dog October 27, 2013 at 12:53 pm #

          Today I’m finding my internet surf-dom goes better with the addition of some delightful musics.

          Concerning potential unemployment of sock-puppets.

          Not to worry, once their unemployment benefits run out they won’t have any trouble getting on disability. -;)

          • ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 1:12 pm #

            Hehe, you *peepin’* at my activity of playin’ youtubes non-stock?!?

            Heh, the govt employees here in Orygone (700+) filed for unemployment and got it ($300k+), as well as 2 weeks back-pay. I’m not sure how they did that – I know two people who suffered multiple turn-downs for unemployment – mostly because they couldn’t *prove* they were looking for a new job (govt boys still had their jobs, and didn’t *LOOK* for another?!?). Not quite sure how they *QUALIFIED* (fast track for insiders?)…

          • ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 1:15 pm #

            BTW, the “All In” Chris Hayes video link is above (reply to U!), concerning sock puppetry at Fox…

          • K-Dog October 27, 2013 at 1:26 pm #

            Got to reply to myself ZrCrypDik cus this thread won’t go deeper.

            Me a peeping? Me doing a Pucker? Nooooooooo sir. I peep at the peepers.

            I’m experimenting with a Firefox add-on called Lightbeam I just found out about. Currently there are 17 third party applications watching this website.

            http://www.zdnet.com/want-to-know-whos-spying-on-you-online-theres-an-app-for-that-7000022447/

            You havin a nice day Barack? Hows Sunny doing?

            http://www.whitehouse.gov/meet-sunny

          • K-Dog October 27, 2013 at 1:33 pm #

            Oh forgot to add thanks for the link. I watched it and will be checking out “Murdoch’s World The Last of the Old Media empire” by David Folkenflick sometime soon.

          • K-Dog October 27, 2013 at 2:13 pm #

            Might be wrong about the 17 number. A bit confusing to use. Still learning.

          • ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 4:33 pm #

            SAME OL’, SAME OL’!!! You gotta move on *Approval*!!! Slow blog approval is akin to *SLOW* (immediate) blog death…

            Hehe, *ice*!!! we still have that, at the N/S poles – *correct*?!?

          • ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 6:39 pm #

            Heh, so how’s Bellevue treating *U*!!! (good look) U slow on yer admin/forum (gunna turn most poaster away)…

  35. beantownbill. October 27, 2013 at 1:01 pm #

    To those of you who wonder how the masses can’t see the breakdown happening all around them, please remember that the current processes responsible for our plight have been in effect for many, many years. One could say that our present condition is the end stage of our ruin, like a cancer that has been slowly growing in a vital organ, while the person feels good, unaware they are very ill. Until one day pain rears its ugly head or a lump becomes visible and the cancer is detected.

    We are at the stage now where only those people in touch with their bodies know something is wrong. Soon enough the American corpus reluctantly will be aware it is sick. When that happens, multiply the recent EBT/Walmart events by a facto of a million. That’s what our society will be like to live in then.

    • ozone October 28, 2013 at 9:03 am #

      Bean,
      That’s a more vivid analogy than the “boiling frogs” trope, and certainly just as apt.

  36. ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 3:15 pm #

    Fast track for insiders!!! Collateralized debt obligations, and credit default swaps!!! They (*BANKSTERZ*) still carrying those as losses on their balance sheet, or is it now non-GAAP reporting on a separate *SH!T* (sheet)…

    • ZrCrypDiK October 27, 2013 at 4:05 pm #

      “I take little comfort in the fact that I did my best to play my part to try to avert or mitigate these events, efforts which proved hopelessly futile and feeble in retrospect.”

      I swear, I think I read his mind (or he read *mine*)…

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