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The gaslighting of the American public continues, with Gaslighter-in-Chief, The New York Times, whipping up a frenzy of Russia paranoia.*

It reminds me of an old gambit in fly fishing called the “artificial hatch.” Trout like to gorge on mayfly nymphs as they rise out of a stream and shuck their nymphal shells to fly away as winged adults. The bugs do this in bunches, at a particular time of day, according to sub-species. This “hatch” drives the trout into a feeding frenzy.

A lot of the time, of course, there’s no action on the stream, so the bored fly fisherman whips his line here and there around a particular pool, trying to create the simulation of a mayfly hatch so the trout will wake the fuck up. It is, to be frank, a crude dodge, really an act of desperation. But at least it gives the fisherman something to do for a while besides worry about missing another mortgage payment.

The Russia paranoia frenzy is serious business because it indicates that a state-of-war exists between the permanent bureaucracy of government (a.k.a. the Deep State) and the new Trump administration. There are features of the struggle that ought to be much more disturbing than the dubious alleged monkey business about Russia hacking the election and the hoo-hah around a single intercepted phone call between Michael Flynn and the Russian ambassador, made to open a line-of-communication between high-ranking officials, strictly routine business in any other administration.

Most disturbing are signs that the so-called intelligence community (IC) has gone rogue in collusion with forces aligned around Democratic Party functionaries up to and including former president Obama and Hillary Clinton, along with CNN, The Times, The Wash-Po, NBC News and a few other mouthpieces of the defeated establishment. Obama and Hillary remain conspicuously sequestered from this maelstrom, but they must be working their phones like nobody’s business. (Is the IC monitoring them, too, one wonders?)

Until his Queeg-on-steroids news conference late yesterday, Trump laid pretty low after General Flynn was thrown under the bus, but he must be plotting counter-moves, with Bannon and Steven Miller straining at their leashes, slavering for blood. Will some employees over at the CIA and the — what? — sixteen other IC outposts that stud the government like shipworms in a rotting hulk — be called on the carpet of the oval office, and possibly handed pink slips? How do you drain that swamp in Langley, VA? Perhaps with subpoenas? Surely Jeff Sessions over at the Department of Justice has got to be weighing action against the IC leakers. That shit is against the law.

The next disturbing element of the situation is all the war-drum beating by the same cast of characters: the IC, the Democratic Party, and major media. Why in hell are we antagonizing Russia? In the last month of Obama’s term — and for the first time in many years — NATO moved a bunch of tanks close to Russia’s border with the Baltic states. Do you really think Russia wants to reoccupy these countries for the pleasure of subsidizing them and draining the Russian treasury? In those twilight days of Obama, government officials made wild and unspecific charges about “Russian aggression,” and vague assertions about Russian plans to dominate the global scene. Major what-the-fuck there. There’s the ugly situation in Ukraine, of course, but that was engineered by Obama’s state department. Do you know why Russia annexed Crimea after that? It couldn’t have been for more transparently rational reasons. And what exactly is our beef with Russia in Syria? That they’re trying to prop up the Assad government because the last thing the Middle East needs is another failed state with no government whatsoever? What’s our plan for Syria, anyway? Same as Somalia, Iraq, and Libya? These stories about Russia’s intentions seem insane on their face. It’s amazing that readers of The New York Times swallow them whole. It must say something about the deterioration of the coastal gene pool. The story-mongers have a purpose though: to promote a state of permanent hostility, neo-cold-war style, to justify the grotesquely overgrown operations of the IC.

Note, too, that the new cold war benefits the thousands of ex-CIA personnel and retired US military officers who have signed on to work as Deep State IC private contractors in recent years. A new cold war is their gravy train. How about a congressional inquiry into the number of private security contractors selling their services to the Deep State, and exactly who they employ? Now that might be a scandal greater than Watergate, but not the Mike Flynn affair.

Have you asked yourself: what would war with Russia look like if the wishes of ninnies like Senator McCain and Lindsey Graham come true? Where’s the battlefield? Do we dispatch a few divisions over to invade Russia proper? Napoleon and Hitler already tried that… didn’t work out so well. And what’s the strategic objective? To occupy Russia and school them in democracy? That’s rich. Or do we go back to fighting proxy wars with Russia in various Third World backwaters as we did so earnestly in the 1960s. Another Vietnam would be grand, right? Just what we need. Or maybe a fifty-year-war like the one in the Congo. Or should we put aside all that penny-ante nonsense and just Drop the Big One, no a thousand Big Ones! Oh, wait a minute… they’ve got plenty of their own Big Ones.

Now, it may be the case that President Donald Trump is batshit crazy, but cooking up fake hostilities with the world’s second-leading nuclear super-power is a strange way to run a coup d’état against the White House. I mean, if it’s that bad, the generals and the senior spooks ought to just step up to the plate without further pretense and remove the fucker — as I’ve been predicting they would inside of sixty days from the inauguration. But then even if Trump is crazy and incompetent, what’s so great about a Deep State security matrix that refuses to be subordinate to anybody, that can do whatever it wants to whomever it wants? This thing is turning into a regular shoot-out at the OK Corral. If you know your history, you’ll recall that Wyatt Earp was hardly the eagle scout he’s depicted as on the boob tube. He was something of a thug, with a mad streak. Maybe that’s what it takes to stand up to the Deep State.

* Gaslighting — a form of manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or members of a group, hoping to make targets question their own memory, perception, and sanity.

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  1. Cavepainter February 17, 2017 at 8:58 am #

    Thanks JFK for this morning’s dose. Your idea of two-a-week posts is greatly appreciated; Monday to Monday was just too long between fixes.

    To wit, GAME OF THRONES: Trump is not the government. Our government is product of genius understanding of history and human behavior — the best ever devised to off-set humanities worst impulses.

    Attitudes expressed in politics today (at least those most highlighted by media for spectacle attraction) are that of intellectual midgets, amounting to nothing better than childish tantrums and inclination toward bullying. The political landscape today is a waste land of emotionalism illustrating the public’s inexcusable lack of understanding of the founder’s genius built into the documents of our nation’s founding.

    Thus so, in the mind of too much of the public, regardless of political stripe, reaction to whoever occupies the Executive seat is regarded more as mythical figure, embodying whatever fanciful dreams or irrational fears that civil decorum once kept unexpressed. Since the 1960s though — when “anti-establishment” public protests resonated with rational objection against war and disenfranchisement of certain of the citizenry — a rabid fashion of pure anti-social behavior has displaced lucid, reasoned basis. Now there are just the emotional harangues that leave no space in between.

    My personal opinion is that the Left (so called) has completely betrayed the Enlightenment principles that were first emblazoned with that label, tarnishing it with such stupid ass propositions of victimology, identity politics and suspension of national sovereignty until some point in time when the nation isn’t “too White”.

    • Hands4u February 17, 2017 at 9:13 am #

      Jim, Trump has been such a blessing to you and the press. He seems to have great recuperative powers that allow him to fall on his sword daily; which tells us what going into war with Trump in charge is going to be like.
      CP- Fortunately the government has created a very large bed but I don’t think they’re going to want to change Trumps sheets out for too long due to bugs and filth he’s bringing to bed each night. This is going to end up being another bankrupt Trump adventure. He wanted a party and the hotel will have a difficult time collecting it’s remuneration if they let him stay and it will be cheaper to just throw the sheets out.

      • Cold N. Holefield February 17, 2017 at 9:34 am #

        I have to say, I think the Deep State is enjoying this at least as much as Trump if not more. In fact, Trump is By Design. In the perilous times we are diving headfirst into whether we like it or not, Democracy is an ideal of the past. Trump’s Presidency will mark the end of even the feigning of Democracy in America. A Real Crisis will soon emerge that requires the Military to step in and take charge. Trump was essential to bring this about, unwittingly on his part of course. He’s The Stooge just as Oswald was. Remember when Kissinger said The People would beg for the United Nations to come to their aid after a fomented crisis? Well, that’s going to happen here in America shortly, but it won’t be the United Nations. Instead, it will be The Military and The People will beg for it.

        • messianicdruid February 17, 2017 at 12:46 pm #

          Who’s Ruby slippers are those?

    • Cold N. Holefield February 17, 2017 at 9:21 am #

      My personal opinion is that the so-called Right’s reaction to the so-called Left’s betrayal, and vice versa of course, is equally absurd yet necessary if the Charade is to continue. They’re two sides of the same coin — you can’t have one without the other. A Strategy of Perpetual Faux Tension. They were Made For Each Other.

      I suspect the Evil Ones behind the Charade know that and know that there are a few of us not on The Inside who know it as well, but they don’t care. If you play their Game you have already lost. The key is to not play the Game.

      Voting for Trump, or defending him, is playing their Game. Just as Trump is enjoying what he’s doing (he said it in his Press Conference yesterday and we know he doesn’t lie), so too are they enjoying it.

      Miller loves this shit. He’s been fucking with people his entire life and nothing’s changed except now he can fuck with the entire Nation and The World. A thirty-one year old psychotic pipsqueak from Santa Monica. You really think Trump and Miller believe a word of what they say?

    • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 9:29 am #

      I can read cave paintings all day, every day

    • K-Dog February 17, 2017 at 10:53 am #

      “Our government is product of genius understanding of history and human behavior”

      Are you fucking kidding. We have a system that makes leaders out of Bozos on a consistent basis and then occupies our time with telling us how great they are until the next bozo comes along. Your comment can replace JHK’s definition of gas-lighting. It is misdirection and spin worthy of any American politician.

      Our genius understanding of history and human behavior is leading us to collapse and a world made by hand. Your bar for genius isn’t just low. It is lying on the ground half buried in mud.

      • Cavepainter February 17, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

        OK K-dog, you being the genius, what order of government exist (or ever existed) could have as successfully restrained innate human behaviors toward monopolizing of power in a highly evolved and complex society while it was being swept by ever accelerating rate of technological advancement and change as what our’s has experienced. No, no, no, I don’t want one of those hissy fits about occasions and actions in the past when a “Bozo” (by whatever definition you apply) was in charge, but,…..where is your extant model or proposed model that could have managed to prevail as well as well as ours? Yes, Bozos come and go, but the system manages to balance out as time goes by.

        • shotho February 17, 2017 at 2:03 pm #

          I agree with your remarks. The American constitutional form of government is the best ever devised by man to prevail over the base passions of fear and greed, thereby giving us something unimaginable before then. And the whole world responded positively to it. It has given a fantastic amount of hope to oppressed people everywhere.
          But it was fated to descend into corruption and racketeering like every other “structure” that man has managed to erect for social and political management. This is the “way of the world” that has been predicted by every philosopher since the beginning of time; especially by one who said that you cannot serve two masters. Sorry for the preaching.

          • daveed February 17, 2017 at 5:57 pm #

            “Gotta serve somebody…..”.

        • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 3:07 pm #

          Precisely. Then you have the people calling for the execution or elimination of billionaires… as if the relentless and universal human trait of greed is going to be cleansed from the gene puddle.
          But this shines a light on yet another human misunderstanding, the erroneously belief that time elapsed equates with progress. That humanity and the world is marching, slowly, and at times with setbacks, on to something “better”. If you keep walking the earth in a straight line… you’re bound to get back.

          • Cavepainter February 17, 2017 at 3:56 pm #

            Thanks shotho and Frankiti, for responding in way that expands directly (rather than a diversionary shift) upon my expressed point. How about that, an honest conversation!

        • K-Dog February 18, 2017 at 12:49 am #

          You can put lipstick on a pig all you want but the fact is the system we have is not working. A technical answer to your question is form of properly implemented anarchical democratic socialism would have restrained innate human behavior and contained monopolization of power.

          To say our system has successfully prevailed is a delusion. Inequality is everywhere and everyone who needs a job is not working. Our health care system is a joke. Our system of education is a joke. Our media lies to us and truth has become anything people want it to be. We have become a society of unkind self-obsessed people. In most of our cities were someone in distress and in need of help they would find themselves the subject of a cell phone video posted up to Facebook or You Tube more likely than getting the help they need. Everyone is out for themselves and empathy has died. People die from random bullets flying through the air frequently in some cities.

          Our system is built on exploitation and has no balance. Saying what order of government exists (or ever existed) which could have successfully restrained innate human behavior as well or better than our own is a pansy-assed way of gaslighting the subject and lays the bar of human achievement on flat ground.

          Your ‘wonderful system’ has put us on a road to ruin. Your system depends on endless growth which is a total fantasy on a finite planet. To deny that we need balance and pretend we don’t need it or that we have it already in any way turns a blind eye to reality. Our system is incapable of recognizing future needs yet in a world of accelerating technical advancement that is exactly what we need.

          I’m sorry to inform you we are not a highly evolved and complex society. We are a complex and fragile society that has yet to evolve. We are yeast people about experience a severe lack of sugar. Most of us will die. That is not any characteristic of a highly evolved society. Growth and being evolved are not the same thing and can be mutually exclusive. Few people are able to actualize their full potential in our society (ironically I’m actually doing pretty well these days) but people in general are struggling hard and we have become a land of broken dreams.

          Any order of government that puts human values first and advances politicians only on their ability to solve problems and govern well, would be better than our system. In other words a enforced meritocratic government. We have nothing like that.

          So again:

          Are you fucking kidding. We have a system that makes leaders out of Bozos on a consistent basis and then occupies our time with telling us how great the current Bozo is until the next Bozo comes along.

          • K-Dog February 18, 2017 at 12:53 am #

            I always read my posts after I hit submit. I only see three typos and none of them are ball-breakers. I did pretty good.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 18, 2017 at 2:26 am #

            Quite so. As Adams said, Our system if for European Christians and no others. We are neither White nor Christian anymore, so why would it work?

          • K-Dog February 18, 2017 at 3:52 am #

            And it is not a Philly cheesecake without white cheese.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 18, 2017 at 2:15 pm #

            Sounds like hate speech to me. Comparing a race with a food is demeaning. And when that race is your own race, obviously deeper issues are evident.

    • Elrond Hubbard February 17, 2017 at 11:31 am #

      Cavepainter: “Thanks JFK for this morning’s dose.”

      I dunno if James Howard Kunstler gets laid as much as that other guy used to, back in the day. It’s just a feeling I have.

      🙂

      • Cavepainter February 17, 2017 at 12:30 pm #

        “Feelings”, a sentimental cabaret song, maybe good for crying into your cocktail, but worthless for analyzing real world politics.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 2:18 pm #

          He’s hurting since he donated most of his fingers to the Somali ice backs who lost them due to frostbite. He can’t even pick up a cocktail glass right now. Meanwhile, the happy Somalis are flexing their new short, stubby, retard fingers.

    • ffkling February 17, 2017 at 1:30 pm #

      Strange how Mr. Kunstler spends the first eight paragraphs condemning through speculation that Obama and the Democrats are attempting to push the US into WW III when the most outspoken advocates for aggression are establishment Republicans like McCain and boyfriend Lindzy. Further, if memory serves me correctly, it was the Bushie administration that equipped, trained and gave the green light to Ukraine to invade South Ossetia, which resulted in a military debacle for the American proxy in a war with Russia. I don’t recall the Dems. initiating a war with Russia.

      • shotho February 17, 2017 at 2:04 pm #

        All major wars of the 20th Century were begun by Democratic administrations.

        • badger731 February 17, 2017 at 3:49 pm #

          And the wars of the 21st are all Republican and are the longest, costliest and meanest on record.

        • ffkling February 18, 2017 at 4:01 pm #

          I can’t believe I am responding to a patently stupid comment…

          First, the US did not initiate aggression in WW I nor II. To save time, let’s look at WW II. You mean to suggest that a Republicon would not have responded to the bombing of Pearl Harbor? Or should the US have simply overlooked the act of war? Either way, you are delusional.

          For the record, my earlier comment was in reference to the war between Georgia and Russia.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

        Remember, the Deep State is the Deep State. To them, the “parties” are just professional wrestling type hijinks.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 2:23 pm #

          Why is it so hard? Because part of the mind operates in twos: yes/no, go/don’t go, feels good/feels bad and so forth. When someone can get you to “think” using this part of the mind – you are just a slave. And it’s not hard: many people never grow beyond this level to the level of real thought. And even those who do can be brought back thru hysteria.

          • CirclesnCircles February 17, 2017 at 4:11 pm #

            Janos, this is a brilliant comment. It really is that simple to most people. Good guys and bad guys; only binary choices.

            And toss a mini nuke (or less) anywhere in America and we all devolve into mental slaves. Yep.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 8:25 pm #

            Tanks! And of course our much vaunted Two Party System ties right into this, hand in glove. Democrats Good! Republicans Bad! Or vice versa. A third party would help break this tendency. A fourth, fifth and sixth would be even better. In any case, the Parliamentary System is superior.

            To their credit, the Founders were against factions. How did we diverge so far from their vision?

          • CirclesnCircles February 18, 2017 at 5:11 pm #

            “How did we diverge so far from their vision?”

            In a word? Avarice……same as it ever was.

            I agree about the stupid two-party system but have doubts about it changing much in my lifetime without a catastrophic meltdown or some kind. I mean the type where most Americans suffer some serious pain for more than a short time. Depression 3.0?

        • K-Dog February 18, 2017 at 1:08 am #

          We agree on that. That we do.

          • K-Dog February 18, 2017 at 1:09 am #

            To be clear on what we agree on:

            “Remember, the Deep State is the Deep State. To them, the “parties” are just professional wrestling type hijinks.”

      • libertysghost February 17, 2017 at 4:02 pm #

        Your memory fails you miserably. It was the Bush Admin that green lighted Georgia instigating war with Russia way back, BUT it WAS the Obama Admin with Hillary’s fingerprinted firmly planted everywhere that led the behind the scenes coup in Ukraine. I’ll post a good summary on that here at the end. Should Kunstler be required to mention the idots warmongers McCain and Graham and go all the way back to mid 2008 to dredge up a “Republican” to blame for something else “The Party” (because a Bush is a Clinton is a Bush of course anyway….) just to make Democratic but-hurt readers feel better about themselves here?

        You honestly don’t believe the “deep state” that both the Clintons and Obamas are apart of have anything whatsover to do with all this neo-McCarthyist Russo-phobia we are being beat over the head with by their PR arm (the legacy media) day in and day out? Really? I got some bridges to sell you …cheap. You don’t have to be that stupid just to feel like you are still serving those scummy elites…they don’t care about you still and never will no matter how much you flack for them.

        So to help your “memory” in the future…a tiny history lesson on the entanglements of HRC and BHO regarding the misery they sowed in Ukraine (just one of their many death fields):

        “Russia and Ukraine

        A seventh line is Russia. Mrs. Clinton has consistently sought to demonize and isolate Moscow, absurdly blaming the bloody Ukraine crisis on “Putin’s imperialism” and endlessly justifying Washington’s relentless provocation of Russia. Hillary’s close ally Victoria Nuland (a top member of Hillary’ State Department team) is Obama’s Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs and is married to the top imperial Neocon Robert Kagan.

        Nuland played a central role in engineering a bloody right-wing coup that installed an anti-Russian and significantly fascist, neo-Nazi regime (in the name of “democracy”) in Kiev in early 2014. The coup reflected longstanding, Clinton-led U.S. efforts to absorb Russia’s immediate western neighbor into the NATO orbit. The leading Russian historian Stephen Cohen explained the development of the broader U.S. policy behind the Ukraine coup during a talk organized last year by the American Committee for East West Accord: “This [Ukraine] problem began in the 1990s, when the Clinton Administration adopted a winner-take-all policy toward post-Soviet Russia … Russia gives, we take. … This policy was adopted by the Clinton Administration but is pursued by every [major U.S.] political party [all two of them – P.S.], every President, every American Congress, since President Clinton, to President Obama. This meant that the United States was entitled to a sphere or zone of influence as large as it wished, right up to Russia’s borders, and Russia was entitled to no sphere of influence, at all, not even in Georgia… or in Ukraine (with which Russia had been intermarried for centuries).”

        It’s not for nothing that the top right wing Ukrainian oligarchs like Victor Pinchuk have contributed many millions of dollars (more than any other nation or national elite) to the global Clinton Foundation – a so-called charity that advances the global neoliberal agenda (including the European integration of the resource-rich Ukraine) of the U.S. ruling class. Several “training” graduates of the Global Clinton Initiative (a wing of the Clinton Foundation) currently sit in the right-wing Ukrainian Parliament.

        Hillary’s aggressive New Cold War-mongering contempt for Putin and Russia poses a significant threat of global nuclear war if and when she ascends to the White House.”

      • jloughrey February 18, 2017 at 2:44 am #

        You must not have been paying attention when Hillary was Secretary of State. Her stated goal was to destroy Syria, and then confront Iran, both of which amounted to proxy wars with Russia. She only got halfway there, and expected to finish the job as “Miz it’s my turn” president, starting out by establishing a no-fly zone in Syria. Which was a for-sure provocation to draw Russia into a confrontation. There was also a lot of military buildup along Russia’s borders under Obama in the form of missiles, ships and troops. But you’re forgiven if you didn’t know any of this, as the mainstream media failed to report on any of it.

  2. thwack February 17, 2017 at 9:01 am #

    The Russia paranoia frenzy is serious business because it indicates that a state-of-war exists between the permanent bureaucracy of government (a.k.a. the Deep State) and the new Trump administration.

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    Jim,

    thank you for including a definition of “the deep state” with your comments about it.

    I suspect a lot of people think its a version of the Illuminati or the Knights Templar… when in reality its more like a bunch of happy governing career government drones sleep walking towards retirement.

  3. seawolf77 February 17, 2017 at 9:16 am #

    The problem with America is we know everything. It’s a peculiar sort of know it all. We used to call it stripper mentality.

  4. cable guy February 17, 2017 at 9:25 am #

    Trump was a front man for the NY/NJ mafias, and now he’s a front man for the Deep State. Politicians in the 21st century have no other function.

    • Cold N. Holefield February 17, 2017 at 9:38 am #

      Obama was a witting Front Man and Trump is an Unwitting Front Man. In otherwords, Trump’s a Stooge or a Patsy. Those who push the Left/Right Reactionary Bind are Deep State actors. Anyone pushing that in the comments does so on behalf of the Deep State, wittingly or not. It’s Quicksand, that’s why I avoid it and keep pointing it out so others can avoid it as well.

      • capt spaulding February 17, 2017 at 11:48 am #

        I think you’re right Cold. As long as they can keep the frenzy going, the Deep State will quietly extend it’s tentacles into every nook & cranny of this country.

      • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 11:58 am #

        Easy on the capitalization and capitulation

        • messianicdruid February 17, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

          I am torn between. The end is near,,,”. Vs. The End Is Here” for.my new walking sign.

  5. ccm989 February 17, 2017 at 9:37 am #

    OK, let’s say you’re right, Jim, that the whole Trump/Putin thing is just Democrats making trouble. That Paul Manafort (Trump’s key campaign advisor) accepting $12.7M in secret payments was just an ordinary bribe. And that the intelligence gathering Russian ship Viktor Leonov spotted sitting outside New Jersey coastal waters means absolutely nothing. And that the now famous Dossier which CNN says a least partially checks out is nonsense. Let’s say that all those things are just an amazing coincidence.

    Let’s have an Independent Counsel investigate this. If Trump is as innocent as you say, then there should be no problem. It would put this whole thing to bed and the Democrats would look like idiots. Trump is now hoping to put his unexperienced billionaire pal Feinberg in charge of revamping the Intelligence Agencies. Nice to have a friend inside when you want to hide things.

    Yup, so lets get that investigation going. Even if its just to prove the Democrats are dead wrong. Call Jason Chaffetz of the House Oversight Committee (202) 225-7751 and tell him to open up an independent investigation. And then we’ll all know what an American Hero Trump is.

  6. Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 9:37 am #

    The left did such a good job of making what’s wrong right, what’s unacceptable acceptable, what’s inferior superior, that one cannot be surprised that it has gone full Mao and embraced the powers of the police state and the dark arts of the deep state. Perhaps, this is what they warned us decades ago, with the commie madness.

    • Cold N. Holefield February 17, 2017 at 9:40 am #

      Take note that this person tries to steer it back to the Left/Right Binary Bind cajoling you take sides and become embroiled in the faux Strategy of Tension that will never end so long as you and others continually enable it via your participation.

      • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 11:49 am #

        Is that your new windmill? “Binary”?

    • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm #

      Yes, they have always been the danger. Their hysteria about America becoming a Theocracy was never credible. Thousands of sects aren’t going to unite. But Leftists are remarkably effective at getting on the same page, be it Bangor, Maine or San Diego, California – all exactly the same.

      • shotho February 17, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

        It does make you wonder, doesn’t it? There must be some method to their madness. Maybe the commonality is that they are all grifters, out to get their something for nothing. It seems to start and stop with human greed.
        Maybe Trump is or isn’t part of the unleashed furies. He has certainly aroused them to gather in their circle around the fire, chanting in unison.

  7. wm5135 February 17, 2017 at 9:39 am #

    From the Monday blog:

    @ Janet
    We know for certain that Russia interfered with the 2016 presidential election to facilitate the election of Donald Trump. Some of their actions were clearly criminal. Hacking the DNC, for instance, was a crime. We also know that during his campaign, Trump publicly encouraged Russia to hack the DNC, and expressed delight when the stolen emails were made public.

    I have to look to the right to see your positions. Please be assured that I hold you in even lower regard than those who stand on the right.
    On this the second edition of the Friday blog please do everyone here a favor.
    Sit down and shut the fuck up. There are some here who are truly interested in reviving our republic and once again continuing the effort to prove that free men and women can, and have a duty to, govern themselves.

    To most of the others here – please accept my apology for being openly rude.

    • trolleybill February 17, 2017 at 10:20 am #

      There is no proof of a hack by Russia which did anything to affect the 2016 election. What the democrats are in disbelieve about is they believe there polling and have to believe it is a Russian plot which is ridiculous. The pollsters were lied to by voters. The Dems overlooked the flyover states and the workingman which they now admit. They are beating up on Russia because the deep state wants to keep making weapons along with the flow of monies into the elites coffers. The leftist are on the wrong side of history as Populism and Nationalism are rising.

      • elysianfield February 17, 2017 at 11:51 am #

        “There is no proof of a hack by Russia which did anything to affect the 2016 election”

        Bill,
        And if they did have proof? Countries spy on another, it is the natural order of things. Countries work in what they perceive as their best interests. Countries, gentlemen aside, read other people’s mail.

        The fact that Russia might have been successful in a hack is of no consequence, it should be assumed.

      • Cactus Girl February 17, 2017 at 2:47 pm #

        OTOH, there’s plenty of proof that the DNC stole the nomination from Bernie by vote manipulation, closing of precincts to make voting difficult, vote flipping, stripping people off the voter roles, (It happened to me) and closing down exit polls in California. When I mentioned this to people on the left, they gave me that pitying look and said, “You don’t really believe that, do you?”

        • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 3:13 pm #

          Except nothing was really stolen from Bernie; why he doesn’t protest the nomination. He played his part in the plan. Namely, invigorate a jaded and apathetic youth vote that was needed in order to replace the black voters that weren’t going to show up for HRC.
          He got them, and some of them, like cattle in a chute went right with her… to the slaughter. Now they’re jaded, apathetic… and cynical. perfect.

          • thwack February 17, 2017 at 5:13 pm #

            Bernie’s job was also to make Hillary look young and not so liberal.

            He was a good soldier.

  8. trolleybill February 17, 2017 at 9:43 am #

    Your spot on about everything but the Trump being bat shit crazy which I say he’s crazy as a fox. I’m a mass rail fan as you may know with light and heavy rail passenger service Choo Choo’s that can do 100 mph without falling off the rails. What I didn’t catch on the news is the talks between Japans Prime Minister Shinzo Abe about a bullet train. We both concur that it worked great in China’s farm belt to construct and in Europe and Japan when they had capital to spend. The east coast 60 yard wide corridor ain’t happening for a multiple of reasons…Maybe 25 mile maglev’s would be the ticket to ease traffic and save fuel and parking spaces. Just a year short in the tooth than you and retied yearn for a decent train service as I would use it as seniors get a big discount. Thanks

  9. robert magill February 17, 2017 at 9:52 am #

    The constant whirlwind, emphasis on wind, regarding confrontation with Russia is emanating from the sluggish bowels of a half dead empire. It takes two to make a confrontation. Russia is to busy to take notice of the attack spaniels snapping at its heel. Busy firming up business with China , Belarus and most of Asia to worry about the home grown posturing that terrifies us. They have seen our mighty war machine broken over and over by guys in pajamas for decades now. Don’t tell me about our great big nukes which are nothing but an expensive and fragile displays of might much like old suits of armor in glass cases in museums

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

  10. seawolf77 February 17, 2017 at 9:53 am #

    Growth is over. Deal with it. Kunstler is spot on there. We’re like children wanting to get back on the teat. It’s over. Growth will never return. You want growth? Move to China. America is like the Catholic Church now. The good days are gone. They’re never coming back. And we’ll be damn lucky if we don’t die.

    • elysianfield February 17, 2017 at 11:55 am #

      “And we’ll be damn lucky if we don’t die.”

      I’m sure you meant that we will be damned lucky if we aren’t killed?

      I have nothing but agreement with your post.

  11. noel bodie February 17, 2017 at 10:03 am #

    I’m thinking that retired military guy turned down T’s offer at NSA because he couldn’t bring himself to be in a position of having T as his commander-in-chief

  12. Greg Knepp February 17, 2017 at 10:07 am #

    “…Napoleon and Hitler already tried that…”

    True, Hitler made the same mistake as Napoleon – attacking the giant of the East. But Napoleon himself could have taken a lesson from history: in 1709 the army of Charles XII of Sweden (yes, Sweden was a potent military power in that day) after rampaging through much of northern Europe, was stopped dead in its tracks by the fledgling forces of Czar Peter of Russia. At the time, nobody considered the barbaric Russians capable of fielding a competent army – certainly not Charles XII. But the Russians proved as tenacious and unyielding as their vast landscape, and the Swedes retreated, never again to pose a significant threat to Europe.

    The Battle of Poltava was Sweden’s Waterloo…or Stalingrad if you please. Shortly thereafter the appellation ‘the Great’ became a part of Peter’s title.

  13. BackRowHeckler February 17, 2017 at 10:15 am #

    War with Russian would not be good. I think it could escalate into a nuclear exchange pretty quickly, initiated by the side that perceived it was losing on the conventional battlefield. In that case we would all be losers.

    brh

    • JimInFlorida February 17, 2017 at 1:06 pm #

      Kill The Billionaires or Billions Will Be Killed. It’s just that simple(TM).

      Before we reach the point where The Ultimate Cure will have to be administered, President Trump will have to have an epiphany about the Zionist crew that he was forced to recruit and that epiphany can only come from Dr. Strangelove.

      President Merkin Muffley realized that it was impossible to gain control of events within TPTB. The ONLY solution was to tell the Russians how to defeat the “Wing Attack – Plan R” already in progress. That only disarmed TPTB, though. It didn’t cure the disease. But, for us, there is a chance it might be enough to bring it under control.

      By helping Russia to disarm TPTB, we may not have to amputate the billionaire gangrene that threatens to kill humanity. Strong antibiotics (95% top tax rate and1% Wall Street Sales Tax), therapy (undo Reaganomics and Jew-driven immigration policies), and counseling (New Deal-era respect for domestic Labor and rejection of the freaks that we are all forced to defer to) will do much to put the cancer into remission and without the shock of an outright amputation.

      Even in remission, amputation of the Billionaires should ALWAYS be kept prominently displayed on the table as the ultimate deterrent to WW3.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 2:31 pm #

        Bannon may be just such a Strangelove. Celebrating the Holocaust without mentioning the Jews was genius. It belongs to everyone now. They forced it on us and now we’ve taken it away from them.

  14. BackRowHeckler February 17, 2017 at 10:19 am #

    Besides, what’s our beef with the Russians? I think President Trump sees Russia as an ally in the war against radical Islam, anti world thugs, and chaos. Israel is another ally in this war for civilization.

    brh

    • thwack February 17, 2017 at 10:50 am #

      “Israel is another ally in this war for civilization.”

      ************************

      No,

      Israel is a master of the “lets you and him fight” routine; for some reason Im not surprised you’ve fallen for it,

      again.

      Cuck much?

      • HaresOnTheMountain February 17, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

        Fuck Israel with a rubber hose. The Jewish people are as good or bad as any other, but Zionists….they’ve shown themselves for what they are.

      • CirclesnCircles February 18, 2017 at 5:22 pm #

        Yes indeed, they are very good at that.

        I’m thinking that the whole dangling of the shiny Russia object with one hand is to distract the plebeians from paying too much attention to what’s in the other hand.

        That being the seemingly tight relationship between Trump and Netanyahu. What are they up to? It has a fishy smell.

  15. Quatermain February 17, 2017 at 10:20 am #

    Truly amazing, JHK and Pat Buchanan in agreement with each other with on the same day.

    wnd.com/2017/02/the-deep-state-targets-trump/

    I do believe we have arrived at truth…..

  16. K-Dog February 17, 2017 at 10:38 am #

    He was doing his job and he was a good guy. I thought so and so when I told him to clean out his desk I knew it would be clean when he was finished. – or some such flicker of the orange gaslight flame. I’m glad I don’t work for Trump. Work hard, do the right thing, and get fired.

    Good Trump is a pacifist and not like the rest of the country he thinks will give him a standing ovation if he blows a ship out of international waters. If he was not so peace loving we might be in some trouble. This Russian thing is being pushed by the British since their deep state and our deep state swap spit every day. See “The Great Game” by Peter Hopkirk. If you only want the concept just Wikipaedia The Great Game.

    But not to worry our POTUS has a cool head and all he wants to do is divide fishes and loaves so he can stand in front of his gold curtain and have the press make nice to him. Where did that curtain come from anyway? If it were cut into little squares and used to wrap chocolate truffles in that would be a good thing. A very good thing.

    I sort of feel like we are on a three hour tour and the weather is starting to get rough. If not for the courage of our fearless crew I fear we may be lost!

    • K-Dog February 17, 2017 at 11:01 am #

      I’d have thought it was a gold colored shower curtain but it is too big for that.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 2:35 pm #

      Trump was magisterial yesterday. Completely in control and making fools out of these vicious Democrat Hacks who pose as journalists. And Liberals can’t forgive him for that – or for showing them to be fools by extension by taking these hacks seriously.

      • thwack February 17, 2017 at 5:16 pm #

        He sounded like some of my alcoholic friends do when they try to stop drinking for a few days.

        Just sayin

      • K-Dog February 18, 2017 at 1:03 am #

        You can’t really pretend you liked that gold curtain can you?

        I’ll agree that he was in control because he was definitely being the Trump. The same Trump full of overflowing contradictions and limited imagination which has been inflicted on me through the media just about all my life. The idiot who thinks having a lot of money is the only measure of a man.

        He was not making fools of the journalists. The journalists were making fools of themselves. It was a confederacy of dunces with Trump as the chief dunce.

  17. Ajax February 17, 2017 at 11:34 am #

    What a pleasure to read these well reasoned and entertaining articles .
    Even better we now get them twice a week. There is so much rubbish in print and on line these days ,almost makes you wonder if humans are regressing back to some less intelligent ancestral lineage.
    Yes the west needs to come to a better understanding with Russia The last thing we need is to be dragged into a conflict with this last great European Power. There are far too many problems of our own making that need to be dealt with before looking for fights with people that are no threat to us.
    Trump for all his alleged failings appears to our best hope on this side of the pond. The previous leaders did not put their own people first, and this cost them the election

    • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 2:41 pm #

      Yes, as Lindbergh said, we must rebuilt our White Ramparts. The two colossi of the North must ally against the rising tide of Darkness. We clear Great Britain and the we invade the continent, landing at Normandy of course. The Russians invade from the East. We could have the Muslims and Black Africans out – To A Man – in five years.

  18. JimInFlorida February 17, 2017 at 11:38 am #

    The one wild-card that NOBODY is anticipating is if President Trump takes a cue from Dr. Strangelove and adopts the only solution available to President Merkin Muffley to stop WW3.

    Call Vladimir Putin and tell him how to DEFEAT the Deep State! Right in front of the warmongers who are driving him to WW3.

  19. thwack February 17, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

    This could be “fake news” because its coming from Alex Jones, and the woman is not named…

    But it could also be the complete opposite because the liberal elite news media refuses to cover the huge story of black opposition to illegal immigration:

    infowars.com/black-trump-supporter-blasts-sanctuary-cities-all-the-jobs-are-going-to-illegals/

    I learned not to leave the house without government issued ID when I was 12 years old and Ive had ID ever since; so just imagine my annoyance to hear all the excuses why “we can’t stop illegal immigration…”

    Just have the police stop and question “mexicans” the same way they have always stopped and questioned me?

    Where do you live?

    where are you going?

    what country you from?

    Im glad Alex Jones posted this story because even the black press has been completely bought off by the liberal globalist establishment press. I monitor the different black radio stations and the black hosts always get really nasty and uncomfortable anytime a black caller opposed to illegal immigration is able to “sneak” past their screener and say things like this woman said.

    Theres a reason why you rarely hear black people speaking against illegal immigration; its because the black media function as gate keepers for the globalists.

    It was the same thing with Obama; criticize Obama policies and you get cut off.

    Or they try to discredit you by calling you an “uncle Tom…”

    The black press is a fucking joke; just a bunch of puppets with the globalists shoulder deep in their anus.

    They can’t die off soon enough.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 2:44 pm #

      Feinstein and Boxer never liked the Blacks. The Zebra killings are hard to forget, media blackout notwithstanding. They always favored the yellows and the browns – hard workers both. Black have a well deserved reputation as horrible workers. who use their place of work as ground zero for troublemaking and scams.

      • thwack February 17, 2017 at 6:00 pm #

        weak cock block janos; lift some weights, convert to Islam and try again.

  20. FlavianPlot February 17, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

    Believe body language over media spin and Trump’s own words.

    youtube.com/watch?v=Ct0H_ndjavM

    Trump’s latest presser has him pleading victim, begging pity. It wasn’t chaotic or unhinged, rather a public cry for mercy — his basket of hubris near empty. A plea fallen on deaf ears. Careerists know it better to let Drumpf float and sputter than boot him from office, kept ineffective just as Obama was.

    Some careerists will publicly support but secretly stymie Trumpian legislation all throughout. Pence was purposely positioned before any General; they’re quietly hopeful for Trump’s resignation but a coup would be needlessly dramatic. Don’t stampede the herd.

    Impeachment is out, as it requires hard evidence that would expose too many.

    Trump pissed on fellow Elites and dribbled on 54%+. Beware the non-voting Expendables. They don’t play games with the status quo. They don’t march lockstep to Big Media or the Alt-Tin-Foil-Blogger cadence. From the Birther ploy to the quasi-fascist-campaign posturing and beyond, Trump and the deep state are not credible. Expendables are pissed on and off. Trust and empathy are eroded amenities. What we know for sure is that all is lost. No tears left, mercy either. As JHK says, gird your loin.

    • FlavianPlot February 17, 2017 at 12:17 pm #

      Comey skins Flynn for first feast, but Trump won’t be martyred. Tell the alt-legacy-punditry to shut up already. Stop believing and just think. Trolls have mind-fucked this blog, even though CFN readers know exactly who’s who, supposedly. Trump was a managed contingency well before his hand hit Bible, though up-to-the-minute-revisions ensue. The trolls here are phonily diametric but all essentially pump the same subtext —disagree — but maintain directionality. Funnel readers down the proper slaughter chute, standard media idea fencing. Deep state operatives aren’t stupid. The pig roast is on. Tender barbecue takes a good long time.

      Trump dug his own roasting pit and rolled on in. He’ll never get out. The 46% will loyally starve, chewin’ stale hope his whole term; a 2nd-year DemoncRat senate/house sweep is near certain; still, ever unlikely is Trump’s impeachment in my view. To produce evidence of any corruption against ANY administration, a devil’s pact to maintain concentration of power must be broken. Don’t count on that. Otherwise, Trump will stay full-term hostage of the swamp, half-drowned.

      • FlavianPlot February 17, 2017 at 12:20 pm #

        Footage right before Selection 2016 betrays Hillary’s feigned humble optimism with body-lingo giveaway — “welp, the jig is up. Ya got me,” stated nonverbally after Comey 2.0—despite stunted yet favorably still rising poling. “No really, we’re gonna win, but we’re gonna be sure not to take anything for granted.”

        Did you miss the fact that paramount ‘blue wall’ states were entirely abandoned those last days?

        So was it close, a blowout, or forfeit? YOU need Hillary to have been beaten the way media portrayed.

        Hillary’s defeat: a righteous Trumpet sound of God, The People? Vomit. Instead, Trump supporters were willingly branded with two distinct types of complicity schmear: the S.Hitler and the Dirty Sanchez. How proudly, openly will you wear your mustache?

        • FlavianPlot February 17, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

          Why, also, would you expect Queen Kakisto to graciously face decision night? Lifetime of plotting spoiled. Psychos can only feel self-sympathy. Honorable individuals usually seek communion with those who toil in their behalf after a loss. Clinton fled scene. Comey, hand forced by Weinergate 2.0, killed her dream but salvaged the Clinton Dynasty; the wretched parable’s end: a scheming couple’s quiet escape, worst personal ambitions thwarted, both jail-free, still filthy rich — a win after all? Election eve likely found her perco-popped-and-passed-the-fuck-out well before the witching hour, but never surprised.

          Dive deep into the Kakistocracy Matrix and bring extra red pill.

          youtube.com/watch?v=gXh0FqB3uc8

          • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 2:47 pm #

            Trump crushed the serpents yesterday. The Obama Deep State was revealed. Now the operatives need to be fired and arrested. As for the so called Press: there’s no reason to have these rabid dogs in the front row for every press conference. Set up a system of rotation. That will have them frothing at the mouth. They have abused their privilege and it should be taken away from them.

          • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 2:58 pm #

            Trump also needs to keep KellyAnne away from the cameras for awhile… not sure why he sends her to the Sunday TV pundit pits…

    • thwack February 17, 2017 at 12:29 pm #

      Serious question:

      whats the difference between an “expendable” and a “deplorable?”

      • JimInFlorida February 17, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

        Easy question to answer!

        “Expendable” means that somebody can be gotten rid of and the cost/benefit of doing so justifies it..

        “Deplorable” means that somebody has undesirable qualities (thoughtcriminal) but, can’t be disposed of easily or legally.

        • FlavianPlot February 17, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

          Neither.

          • JimInFlorida February 17, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

            Yes, yes, there are “DICTIONARY” definitions but, in political context, they are secondary to what is actually practiced.

            My answers are correct in that regard.

            What’s your answer? Let’s hear it!

          • FlavianPlot February 17, 2017 at 1:25 pm #

            You underestimate and over-attribute state and trait qualities to both. Your definitions betray partiality and self-reference.

            The literal definitions don’t require ego or subjective re-framing and work just fine.

          • JimInFlorida February 17, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

            Flavian, you still haven’t offered your interpretation of Expendable vs Deplorable.

            My interpretations still stand because they can be seen everyday in politics, both corporate and government.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 3:11 pm #

        When practicing zazen, fold your hands in your lap, left hand in right, thumbs touching. Hold it tenderly – the Basket of all Beings, the Basket of Deplorables which demon Hillary called irredemiable.

  21. Walter B February 17, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

    When the only tool you’ve got is a hammer, every problem you’ve got has to look like a nail….

    youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

    Regardless of your opinion of the man, Wes Clark is and always was extremely intelligent, and in this interview the absolute truth which he exposes is clear to anyone with even only a small bit of brain.

    It is what our government does because it CAN do it, and it is EXTREMELY profitable for those that produce the implements with which to do it.

  22. pequiste February 17, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

    I like the “gaslightling” routine Jim explicates , however it appears that the entire USA has a different take on it: keeping the gas on even though the flame has gone out.

    This has lead, and will lead, to various and sundry consequences to include:

    – Asphixiation of Deep State operatives because of their proximity to the gas leak. See Gen. Michael Flynn’s dossier on get bushwacked by friendly forces and Rex Tillerson’s gutting of State Department professional leeches. I cannot wait to see what happens over at the Dept. of Education under Ms De Vos.

    – That funny smell that pervades the atmosphere – so that’s what Washington D.C. is redolent of – that and raw sewage, toxic waste and bullshit. When there is a gas leak in the neighborhood that invariably elicits a call to 911 for emergency response. The fire department and the constabulary arrive with sirens and flashing lights, geared up for the worst scenario. They proceed to close down the street (to the protestation of the persons who called emergency services,) evacuate the residents to safety and check the place for the offending utility line or bar-b-que grill.

    – Explosions, as is prognosticated by our host; as bad planning leads to bad execution leading up to really bad consequences with China, Russia and probably the Yzlamik world and several other antagonist players (that Kim Jong Un is such a cad – offing his “prayboy” half brother.) I shudder with eager anticipation.

    How come the well-deserving, self-serving, slimy print and TV media can’t have a a major gas leak of their own?

  23. Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 1:20 pm #

    Was not the entire Clinton campaign a display of gaslighting*?

    How about the Staler & Waldorf routine of Closet-case Graham and McInsane? They are inextricably, and unabashedly, linked to the M&I complex that fuels the “deep state’. Yet, they try to present themselves as dyed-in-the-wool GOP adversaries of the Democratic party, the new political face of the M&I complex….

    How about the media, up until now, a “fierce advocate” of privacy rights in the face of NSA and the domestic spying apparatus. Now they are all for it?

    Gaslighting doesn’t make one question their sanity, it makes one question the sanity of those swallowing it.

  24. Q. Shtik February 17, 2017 at 1:27 pm #

    Sometime after 1:00 PM yesterday I was tuned in to the Trump press conference. My lunch was in front of me – a salami and cheese sandwich and a small ice cold can of 7 Up. I took a bite of the sandwich, gave it a few chews and was about to send it on its way, washed down by a swill of my soda, but at that very instant I heard Trump say: “This administration is running like a fine-tuned machine.”

    I burst into a short and violent spasm of laughter while in mid-swallow causing the highly carbonated 7 Up to shoot from my nose along with some sandwich particles. What kid hasn’t had milk shoot from his nose?…but for a unique experience try 7 Up sometime!

    • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 1:36 pm #

      Because the media told you otherwise?

    • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 3:14 pm #

      You are a child again, Q. Lucky you. You dissolve your meds in the Mountain Dew? 7 Up is for snobs! Canada Dry? Worse snobs like Elrond.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 3:31 pm #

        You’re right about Flynn, though. Trump blew it by firing him. He believe the Lie or feared his ability to oppose it.

  25. ffkling February 17, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

    Strange how Mr. Kunstler spends the first eight paragraphs condemning through speculation that Obama and the Democrats are attempting to push the US into WW III when the most outspoken advocates for aggression are establishment Republicans like McCain and boyfriend Lindzy. Further, if memory serves me correctly, it was the Bushie administration that equipped, trained and gave the green light to Ukraine to invade South Ossetia, which resulted in a military debacle for the American proxy in a war with Russia. I don’t recall the Dems. initiating a war with Russia.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 17, 2017 at 4:14 pm #

      Bushie administration that equipped, trained and gave the green light to Ukraine to invade South Ossetia

      Nail on the head, bro! And screw those Hungarians who fought Australians at the Pearl Harbor!

  26. venuspluto67 February 17, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

    These days, I find myself regarding all socio-political communication that doesn’t specifically focus on looming energy/resource shortages as the speech-equivalent of Muzak. This means that I regard it as something to which I pay as little attention as possible and by which I try to be influenced as little as possible. Hopefully after a while, this won’t require the effort of will it currently does.

    • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

      That is only yet another cure for a symptom. Get some confidence, and speak to the taboo of too many humans.

      It’s all muzak

  27. HaresOnTheMountain February 17, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

    Thanks for the Friday blog, Mr. Kunstler.

    “The Lords of Deception rule the skull chambers of Homo-Pathetical”

    Stay Deplorable Brothers and Sisters! It’s better than being a Superstar of Greenwich Meantime

    youtube.com/watch?v=6p4usL3tVYU

  28. FincaInTheMountains February 17, 2017 at 2:03 pm #

    The first interview with President Trump

    Awesome interview! Awesome! I listened to it once, but I can not comprehend what he said, since Trump continues to use symbolic language, which he began to use by the end of the election campaign that actually brought him the victory. At first I thought it was “normal” Aesopian language, but I was wrong. This is a symbolic language, and its famous repeats designed to enhance the impact of this symbolic language, which proves that he uses them consciously. And now I’m only interested where did he get it from?

    Trump said that Putin apparently does not want to enter into a global deal with him, because this deal will be unpopular in the United States due to the disinformation campaign conducted by Media (Hillary Clinton?).

    Meanwhile the essence of the deal is to prevent a “nuclear holocaust”.

    And the fact that he used the word Holocaust, without first mentioning of Jews in the Holocaust Remembrance Day, has finally convinced me that his so-called mistakes, it’s actually a well-designed system. Symbolic system. I would even say the symbolic language.

    In particular, the meaning of the above syllogism: Dear Americans, if you see a mushroom cloud over your city, then keep in mind – I have nothing to do with it, blame the media (Hillary Clinton?)

    P.S. In the manner of artistic delirium: Trump with this interview gave the green light, and even appealed to Putin to occupy the entire Ukraine. Really, now, if the Donbass army enters Kiev and Lvov, in Ukraine it will be the restoration of the unity by one of the parties that won the Civil War in full compliance with the Minsk-2. And Trump will say: “I wanted to make a deal with Putin and if I had none of this would have happened. But Media intervened, and now what, you want me to start a nuclear holocaust because of that?!

    Especially because the coal blockade has created overload of nuclear power stations. It was necessary to save Europe from multiple new Chernobyl catastrophes”

    But I, as a citizen of Russia, am categorically against this. Personally, I don’t want stupid Ukrainians as co-citizens at all, especially since Ukraine will fall disproportionately heavy on the Russian economy.

    No, of course the Donbass army will have to enter Kiev, Odessa, Rivne at least due to the nuclear power plants, Antonov Yuzhmash and Nikolaev shipyards, but before that Germany must be served with a bill for three trillion euros for the damage done to Russia during WWII.

    Dear Germans, you and your support for the Nazi coup in Kiev, have canceled all the agreements that were signed between Kohl and Gorbachev.

    • JimInFlorida February 17, 2017 at 6:39 pm #

      Finca, why can’t Putin peel off the eastern oblasts of Ukraine and annex them by popular demand? They are predominantly Russian and I would think they’d rather align with Moscow than Kiev.

      I’m sure Putin can easily discover the popular sentiment of eastern Ukraine and set events in motion to work it loose and finally break it free. The torrent of fake news from ZOG Amerika can be easily deflected when Putin shows the huge dysfunction of Ukraine and that he was only responding to the popular demand of Russians in those oblasts.

      Washington is guilty x1000 of such agitations around the world over the past century. Putin can put some historians to work digging up that dirt and have it ready when the neocons start demonizing him for annexing eastern Ukraine.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 17, 2017 at 8:17 pm #

        It is an extremely complex and sensitive issue which is being debated almost every hour of every day in Russian blogs and TV shows with diametrically opposing opinions.

        Personally, I do not have the entire strategic picture and prefer just to trust the wisdom and experience of the President, unless proven wrong in the future.

        And besides, Russia has EVERYTHING under control on the South-West Theater of Military Operations, so probably Putin just prefers to wait and save valuable resources.

  29. Kellyfrombayfield February 17, 2017 at 2:16 pm #

    Does the “Deep State” group have a leader ? I do believe it exsists but wonder who will emerge as their leader and will he/she know who they work for.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 17, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

      Deep State is a very misleading term because it depicts some cohesive Monster pinned against “We, the People”.

      And there are many true American Patriots as well as traitors and Enemies of The People.

      But the current push against President Trump is being lead by American Party of War, or Neocons or as I like to call it – the Western Black Project which until recently was the Union of American Hillary Clinton, German Angela Merkel and Saudi prince Bandar bin Sultan.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 3:20 pm #

        All funded by the Rothschilds. Don’t forget that.

        • FincaInTheMountains February 17, 2017 at 4:03 pm #

          Oh, get a life, Janos!

          Rothschilds are just a mere bankers of her Majesty.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 8:00 pm #

            Oh how absurd! You believe the Queen is a giant carnivorous lizard too. right?

            The Queen is close friends with one of the Rothschild Ladies. She knows they could Romanov her at any time if she steps out of line. It was very daring of her to support Brexit – first brave thing she’s ever done publicly as far as I know.

    • capt spaulding February 17, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

      The Deep State will never acknowledge a “leader”, but will continue to operate anonymously in an ongoing effort to control the country. They have been aided by the efforts of the red state goobers who elected George W Bush TWICE, and who helped fuck up the country. I refer you to 2008. Anybody remember what happened that year? After the Republican majority (along with Bush) fucked things up to a fare-the-well, eight years later, here they are back again. Gee, do you think they learned anything? These people are completely deluded, and will lead this country to destruction. It’s the reason I keep “Old Painless” within reach. Anybody who thinks that this bullshit will end well is fooling themselves.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 17, 2017 at 2:43 pm #

        You can’t control the Nation by mere brute force, or even by money and economy – it is too expensive and therefore, unstable.

        You must have a conceptual, or ideological control – and what ideology does your Deep State has? None!

    • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

      It’s leviathan. A giant public/private bureaucratic-nexus that exists to exist. Status-quo (the host (D/R) of the party changes, bit it’s still a party) is its lifeblood. Bureaucrats need more and higher paying jobs, SES positions, agencies need more funding, militaries need more programs for more officers and they need more toys, the toymakers need contracts…

      • ozone February 17, 2017 at 7:30 pm #

        Frankiti,
        I agree completely with your definition. And yes, its only reason for being is to replicate itself and keep the [unearned] vigorish flowing. This is also the conclusion of the movie “Snowden” and it encourages us (everyone, that is) to *follow the money* to find out who benefits and why.

        I think that Trump has (unwittingly) upset the apple cart; things/the confidence games were going so well and so comfortably secret under that smooth liar, Obama. Turning on the light switch in the offices of any of these entrenched bureaucracies threatens to expose the dirty dealings and palm-greasing that’s been going on. That cannot be allowed; that is the reason for the push-back, and those that support “the intelligence community” are amazingly blind to what said community is perpetually doing to them. (IOW, they’re begging for their own enslavement. I’ve never seen anything so Orwellian in all my born days!)

        The weighty overhang of this gang of something-for-nothing is also a strange symptom of far too many humans. The leviathan obviously thinks that there are plenty of worker bees out there to leech off of, but their sense of proportion is all wrong. (And Dominionists must be discredited once and for all. The “right” to rule over and kill every living thing is a dangerous and insane conceit.)

  30. bibliomaniac February 17, 2017 at 2:43 pm #

    The Russian frenzy is yet another cover for what is really going on with the GOP and it serves the interests of both parties. Keep the democrats, the media, and the gullible in a feeding frenzy over an “artificial hatch” with a Trump decoy while the GOP strips down the country and sells it off for spare parts.

    The real action behind the scenes is the confirmation of Scott Pruitt, the climate denier as EPA chief. This man has sued the EPA no less than 14 times, turned the State of Oklahoma into a dumpster and has just last year opposed a church-state separation initiative on the Oklahoma ballot.

    Back in 2008 climate scientists thought that perhaps the biggest threat of global warming was coastal flooding. Since then it has become clear that the Arctic and Antarctic glaciers acts a “air conditioners” for the planet reflecting massive amounts of heat back into space.As the glaciers melt, the heat sinks, warming the planet faster and faster–the end result will be drought and catastrophic crop failure.

    Scott Pruitt might very well be the final nail in our coffin.

    • capt spaulding February 17, 2017 at 2:53 pm #

      I don’t think that anybody knows for sure what effects global warming will have. Because of that uncertainty, I will prepare accordingly. In my experience, things go to hell quickly when the norm is upset. My motto is expect the worst and hope for the best. The guy who hung around the lifeboats on the Titanic probably survived.

      • FlavianPlot February 17, 2017 at 3:05 pm #

        Jesus you’re slow.

        • capt spaulding February 17, 2017 at 3:17 pm #

          Don’t stop with one pithy comment. Enlighten me.

          • FlavianPlot February 17, 2017 at 5:05 pm #

            1.5 ?C increase in Global Average Temperature (GAT) took 266 years (1750—2016).

            Hypothesized trend is for a .12 increase per annum from 2016 onward.

            How much longer do you wish your children to live? 20-years, say?

            .12 x 20 =
            2.4 ?C increase in temperature (2016—2036). 1.5 + 2.4 = 3.9

            We do not live in a time of additive but rather multiplicative change. The above expression is likely inaccurate relative to actual pace of change. It will happen faster than I guess.

            Hypothesis is that at a 4?C temperature increase from baseline, most all complex flora and fauna ecosystems die.

            Many of us will get to find out if this is true, and most likely in fewer than 20 years.

            But your deep state daddy, Janos, will protect you, and eat your kids.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 3:21 pm #

          You’re right, Flav – it’s fake news based on fake data.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

      Just the Republicans – as if the Democrats aren’t globalists too? God you’re slow. Get a bib, you’re drooling on yourself.

      • bibliomaniac February 17, 2017 at 3:34 pm #

        Read it again, Janos. It said it serves the interests of “both parties.”
        Nobody is innocent here. Obama needed to a lot more–but Pruitt is really bad news. It just so happens the Repubs are in power now–but I think both parties are to blame.

    • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 3:30 pm #

      Yes, indeed, “our” coffin.
      Sometimes you give birth to a bad baby and so it goes with the bath water. Mama earth is making the bath…

      • bibliomaniac February 17, 2017 at 3:35 pm #

        I agree with you, Frankiti. She may not be on the GOP agenda, but we are certainly on hers.

  31. Kellyfrombayfield February 17, 2017 at 3:03 pm #

    Where does Soros fit in the picture ?

    • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 3:26 pm #

      Front man for the Rothschilds who fund Globalism thru him and others. We’re finished unless we put him out of business in America as the Russians have done in Russia. He’s the one who funded the gang terror in Chicago against Trump followers. He’s funded revolution all over the world – and he’s planning one for us now too.

      Thank God, for the election of Donald J Trump. Otherwise the Jihad would be amped up here to full gear.

      • malthuss February 18, 2017 at 10:58 am #

        Front man for the Rothschilds –He is not an independent guy?

  32. GeoffZ February 17, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

    Queeg on Steroids….I love it!

    I’ve been posting the following clip of Queeg on the stand:

    youtube.com/watch?v=-95QqBXLG2I

    Kind of reminds you of the press conference!

  33. Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 3:29 pm #

    With fake news, based on nothing but lies, created whole cloth out of nothing, they get real results like the firing of General Flynn.

    Likewise, based on nothing but lies, created whole cloth out of nothing, Financiers get real labor and capital from fake money they loan into existence. And more – they charge interest on it! Imagine buying a Monopoly Game and then being able to use it as real money, including loaning it out at interest.

    • JimInFlorida February 17, 2017 at 6:57 pm #

      You’re almost there Janos.

      In Reaganomics Monopoly, one of the players has a gun and the others don’t. The player with the gun then gets a pen and a pile of sticky-notes. The value of the sticky note money comes from him saying that everything on the board is now collateral for his sticky note money.

      The other players can continue to play the game but, they must pay interest to the one player with the gun, since his sticky note money is borrowed against the entire board. While the player with the gun has the “legal” right to foreclose on the entire board, he would be stuck with no economic rents and no buyers for all the properties on the board. Thus, collecting rents and leveraging credit is the main goal.

      He can increase the supply of sticky note money by agitating the players against each other and starting a war. They must borrow sticky note money from the player with the gun and somehow inflate the value of their properties to cover the loan. They have their war, there is much destruction, and they must borrow more to rebuild.

      NOW the players themselves must sign themselves on as collateral and their incomes from the board. How will they get income outside of the board? They can sell drugs and narcotics to non-players!

      Like a fractal, this can get complicated really quick.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 7:54 pm #

        Like the Egyptians in the time of famine. Saint Joe taxed their grain for seven years for the seven years of famine to come. And then instead of dispersing it (since it was their grain) put aside for that purpose), he made them buy it. And when they had nothing left, they had to sell themselves!

  34. Cold N. Holefield February 17, 2017 at 3:43 pm #

    Q. Shtik said: Sometime after 1:00 PM yesterday I was tuned in to the Trump press conference. My lunch was in front of me – a salami and cheese sandwich and a small ice cold can of 7 Up. I took a bite of the sandwich, gave it a few chews and was about to send it on its way, washed down by a swill of my soda, but at that very instant I heard Trump say: “This administration is running like a fine-tuned machine.”

    Same here. I heard and saw him say it on a replay on Morning Blow and I laughed out loud.

    He’s right, though, it is a fine-tuned machine. A nuclear bomb is a fine-tuned machine and that’s what the Trump administration is — a nuclear bomb with a 500,000 megaton blast potential and it’s detonating now.

    Only the scavenging cockroaches will be left in its wake.

    I hate to say I agree with Hillary, but Trump supporters are a Basket of Deplorables. She’s deplorable too, but so too are Trump and his supporters.

    Wrap your head around it. Trump has the nuclear football. He’s unpredictable. Of course, they wouldn’t let him do it, but it may be the crisis they need to remove him forcibly from office and install a military dictatorship until Democracy can be restored at a later date that never comes.

  35. Cold N. Holefield February 17, 2017 at 3:51 pm #

    Frankiti said: Trump also needs to keep KellyAnne away from the cameras for awhile… not sure why he sends her to the Sunday TV pundit pits…

    Trump needs to resign now and cut his losses. If he doesn’t, it will be much, much, much, much worse for him and all of us. He needs to wake up and realize he’s playing the stooge. He’s behaving exactly as they intended him to behave and exactly how they knew he would behave. He’s playing right into their hands.

    • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 3:59 pm #

      We need to find They and tell them to knock it off…

      • Cold N. Holefield February 17, 2017 at 4:17 pm #

        The three dots at the end of some of your sentences are giving you away. I know it’s you.

        Any way, silly, the THEY is the Deep State and those they protect and represent, The Rich. Sometimes they’ll sacrifice one of their own in that process, i.e. JFK and now Trump.

        If you think this insanity is merely the result of chaotic, random chance, then we really don’t have much longer.

        Trump is necessary and purposeful for what comes next. You don’t think all the strategic planners don’t know what you know and I know, that there are too many people and we need to downsize yesterday if it’s not already too late? You don’t think they have plans in place on how to deal with that? You don’t think they would implement those plans? You think they would implement them only with the democratic approval of a braindead populace? They have to make the people beg for it. They’re building consensus. It’s almost time. I say within the year but next year at the latest. We will see what comes next and it will be dazzling and people will beg for it, welcome it and applaud it.

  36. Cold N. Holefield February 17, 2017 at 3:53 pm #

    Q. Shtik, did you notice KellyAnne’s make-up the other day after it was announced Flynn was fired? It was as though she had been crying and had a meltdown prior to having to go on air and talk about it and her make-up and hair were….well, let’s just say she looked like a hooker strung out on meth or heroin. She’s as horrible as Hillary in her own right.

  37. FincaInTheMountains February 17, 2017 at 4:09 pm #

    I don’t think that anybody knows for sure what effects global warming will have. == captn

    I do – Russia gets the cheapest, fastest, secure ocean route from Asia to Europe under its control!

    Hip hip, Hurray!

    • thwack February 17, 2017 at 11:01 pm #

      where is all the water from that melted ice gonna go?

  38. Ishabaka February 17, 2017 at 4:38 pm #

    Number of bombs dropped by US forces under Commander in Chief, and Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Obama in 2016, a relatively quiet year in which the USA entered no new wars: 26,172, or an average of 77 per day. Everyone wounded by those bombs was grateful they were dropped under the order of a Nobel Peace Prize winner, rather than a war monger like Kim Jong Un, of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (whose forces dropped 0 bombs in 2016).

  39. Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 4:42 pm #

    armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/press/when-real-news-is-attacked-by-government-the-end-is-near/

    Anyone who disagrees with the narrative in Europe and the United States is now deemed a Russian agent. Same thing here on CFN where dissents to the Liberal Groupthink are deemed paid agents

    • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

      The plans aren’t necessarily for nefarious, malicious, and purposes rooted in greed. Perhaps even more frightening, it’s a plan to make things better, from saving the environment, establishing law and order, human rights, freedom of movement and so on. what are the impediments? Borders, leaders not on the program, people not dependent upon it, anonymous monetary instruments, and quaint concepts of patriotism. These people already operate in this realm. They are successful in this realm, and they have no fear of it. Quite the opposite, they fear local opposition to environmental laws, migratory patterns, markets. The world can be a better place if everyone would just go along with it

    • thwack February 17, 2017 at 7:17 pm #

      What?

      You think you better than them cause you practice racism for free?

      Sounds like you’re the one getting punked.

  40. Janos Skorenzy February 17, 2017 at 4:48 pm #

    The NSA was given new powers in the final days of the Obama Administration. Start the investigation there.

    Start an investigation of Pizzagate. Start with Hillary defending a woman who was caught trying to smuggle thirty kids. These so called orphans had parents. It was kidnapping.

    Start an investigation of the Clinton Foundation. It’s guaranteed that these three investigations will converge and the whole Deep Sate will come undone like pulling a thread undoes the whole sweater.

    • Frankiti February 17, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

      Why? Has anybody answered why? This was pure passive aggressiveness by the Hawaiian on paper.

  41. FlavianPlot February 17, 2017 at 5:54 pm #

    Alt-media Trump boosters admit, “Trump is dead,” screaming how the legacy media have pinned a phony Russian scandal on his presidency; meanwhile, same alt-pundits ignore Trump’s own recent statements against Russia, not to mention Mad Dog’s; specifically, Trump tweeting that Russia ought to give back Crimea; Mad Dog labeling Russia “America’s greatest threat.”

    Trump pisses on his own leg now and tells himself it’s raining.

  42. FlavianPlot February 17, 2017 at 6:22 pm #

    Trump is safe. He’s kissed the rings of his betters and continues to whisper sweet nothings into the ears of the sleep 46%:

    “So, perhaps you should just relax and go with the flow. After all, being a slave in the service of the technosphere is not immediately life-threatening… unless you crash into a tree or get run over by a drunk. But there is another problem: this arrangement isn’t going to last. The net energy that can be extracted out of a barrel of oil is quickly shrinking. In less then a decade the energy surplus required to maintain a car-centric lifestyle will no longer exist. If private car ownership and daily driving are required of you in order to survive, then you won’t survive. There goes at least 18% of the world’s population, which will find itself stranded in the middle of an impassable landscape. Oops! — Dmitry Orlov

    That and climate change Makes America Late Again!

    cluborlov.blogspot.com/2017/02/you-are-not-in-control.html

  43. Pucker February 17, 2017 at 6:38 pm #

    Man’s Existential Reality: People are generally Small-Minded, lazy, and hate themselves and their crappy jobs. So they need something to do to feel secure, self-important, and feel that they’re doing something meaningful—like a war, the “War on Terror”, or “The Fi…nal So,,,,lu..tion”.

  44. FlavianPlot February 17, 2017 at 6:48 pm #

    “Flavian, you still haven’t offered your interpretation of Expendable vs Deplorable.

    My interpretations still stand because they can be seen everyday in politics, both corporate and government.” — Choosy moms choose JiF but regret it.

    Wrong, Kellyanne. I don’t need to contort objective facts or to slant definitions to suit political taste. You were psychically wounded by the word deplorable used by a person who herself epitomizes the standard idea. You took her bait, became her psychic bedfellow.

    You drew the self-conscious conclusion that your personal ideas were under attack, betraying some sort of actual guilt that you work hard to conceal. Your thin-skinned internal response was to concoct an unneeded definition of ‘deplorable’ in defense. There are objective standards to which we’re all subject. You have that concept backward. Who cares what someone calls you? You do.

    • JimInFlorida February 17, 2017 at 7:15 pm #

      Now I’m waiting for thwack to weigh in.

      Nice try on the armchair psychology. I’ve been known to do that so I can’t complain. It’s an enjoyable exercise trying to get in somebody’s head and attempt to discredit the very thought process that generated whatever it was they said (or typed).

      However, one must also return to the subject at hand. thwack wants to know the difference between “expendable” and “deplorable.” There are dictionary definitions and then there are political interpretations. Hillary is NOT the first one to throw that word around in a political context.

      I’m still ahead because I put my chips on table. At least offer the dictionary definition and help thwack with his question.

      • thwack February 17, 2017 at 8:09 pm #

        I get it JiF. I kinda knew what a “deplorable” was; but had never heard about “expendables.”

        Hillary was basically calling a bunch of white people “niggers”; imagine what she must call them now since they snatched the presidency away from her?

        • elysianfield February 17, 2017 at 11:51 pm #

          “imagine what she must call them now since they snatched the presidency away from her?”

          Uhhh, racist?

          Thwack,
          An example of “expendable”

          Suppose your “9” carries 15 rounds.

          Suppose you need 10 of those rounds to punish your bitch and her new boyfriend(s)…

          That allows five bullets that can be used in a random drive-by or other form of high jinks…those five bullets are “expendable”.

          • thwack February 18, 2017 at 1:35 am #

            There you go again thinking like a white man

            (((shakin my head)))

            Just find out where they are sleeping and wait for the house to get hit by some Jewish lightning.

            (leave a glove out front that doesn’t fit you)

          • elysianfield February 18, 2017 at 10:51 am #

            “Jewish lightning”

            Old Joke…;

            Jake…”Congratulations on your fire!”

            Sam…”Shhhh!…It’s not until tomorrow!”

            Thwack,
            Why would there be “Jewish Lightning”…you KNOW the bitch ain’t got house insurance….?

  45. Pucker February 17, 2017 at 7:12 pm #

    The Technosphere…..

    The Next New Upgrade: Chastity Belts—-People will be required to start wearing (and forced to buy) certain types of technology.

    “CLE • Wearable Technology: Key Legal Implications
    February 24, 2017 | Live CLE Video Broadcast | 2 HR CLE (10:00 am – 12:00 pm Eastern)

    See full agenda and program info online…

    This course will go over the key legal implications of wearable technology. From privacy, to intellectual property, and workplace considerations, the speaker will discuss the essential legal framework controlling the use of wearables, and the collection of data from users of wearables. Additional considerations include consumer product safety issues and sourcing, import and customs considerations. Tuition/Agenda information

    Key topics to be discussed:

    Intellectual property
    Privacy
    Employment considerations
    Labor considerations
    Product liability”

  46. Pucker February 17, 2017 at 7:58 pm #

    They could probably use that new wearable technology to make you become a Trans-Whatever? Make you for Freakie Deakie….

  47. Learner February 17, 2017 at 8:07 pm #

    It sort of drives me nuts that I can’t figure why the Deep State is poking the Bear in the nose. Are we stupid? Do we believe we can “win” fighting Russia….but not China? Does the East coast loathe the West coast so very much that they would keep poking? Because we on the West coast would probably get hit first,.

    While I think what James has said is essentially true, it still doesn’t explain “why”. Driving smaller countries into failed state status is insane but does keep the military and contractors employed. Where is the perceived benefit in this anti-Russia tactic?

    • Pucker February 17, 2017 at 9:01 pm #

      “…but not China…”

      China is not a threat to the US. The Chinese are shrewd businessman so they’ll leverage advantages vis-a-vis the US for commercial profit, but they’re not a military threat. The South China Sea snafu is a Clusterfuck due to Communist Party education which has overlooked the inconvenient details of international maritime law, so they have to lie in their own bed of self-deception.

      I suscept that Russia is a much more convenient target since there’s an establish bureaucratic infrastructure for demonizing the Russians. Also, I suspect that it’s mentally a bit difficult for the Americans to get their heads around and to fathom the Chinese because of the cultural gulf separating the two cultures.

  48. Pucker February 17, 2017 at 9:05 pm #

    For some bizarre reason, the West has always had a Hard-On for the Russians, and they seem to invade Russia about once every 100 years as part of some creepy cyclical pattern. Weird….

    • Learner February 17, 2017 at 9:46 pm #

      Yes, I agree that the West has a hard-on for the Russians with fascination on both sides flaring up periodically. I do believe, however, that China is a situation in the making. And they don’t give a fig if we understand them. Nor do they pay attention to international maritime law. Nevertheless China progresses steadily toward completion of the First Island Chain military doctrine employing provoking side-stepping events not quite worth a response in kind. An advance by a thousand small cuts.

      China takes the long view. The West does not. And that may be why we don’t understand them.

      • Pucker February 17, 2017 at 10:46 pm #

        The Chinese are not monolithic. They fight amongst themselves constantly. The focus of the Chinese is internal conflict and potential domestic instability. However, their bureaucracy is designed to function to make long term aggressive economic plans (planning system) to acheive certain targets, which tends to result in zero-sum gains for the Chinese to gain market share for China at the expense of the US and Europe. If Trump was smart, he’d insist that the Chinese scrap this economic planning system so that it does not create friction in trade relations.

  49. Pucker February 17, 2017 at 10:38 pm #

    Trump has a strong hand with regard to the South China Sea since he has international law on his side and a favorable Hague arbitration ruling (favorable to the Philippines) to back him up. The Chinese can’t win since no foreign country of any stature will back a Chinese territorial claim based upon “history” which is only recognized by Communist Party Propaganda and illegitimate under international maritime law which China signed on to.

    • Learner February 17, 2017 at 11:21 pm #

      Possibly. But which nation or nations intend to make the Chinese obey international maritime law? The will to enforce compliance doesn’t appear to be all that strong from the marked lack of commitment offered by any nation except for the Philippines. And that would seem more a matter of the Philippines needing us to soldier up as they can’t win alone against China. If this ruling results in anything other than continued saber rattling we need effective ships to better launch effective aircraft with which to counter China’s threat. And we needed them a decade or more ago to show we were serious in protecting the island chains.

      • Pucker February 17, 2017 at 11:31 pm #

        No sense of urgency as the Chinese South China Sea claims are unenforceable. Use it to beat up the Chinese in world public opinion.

        • elysianfield February 17, 2017 at 11:57 pm #

          “No sense of urgency as the Chinese South China Sea claims are unenforceable.”

          Puck,
          Just wait until the Chinese are able to put the “Force” into enforceable. Laws among nations are only obeyed insofar as they are convenient and/or self-serving.

  50. Pucker February 18, 2017 at 12:00 am #

    The Chinese don’t have the power. And they have bigger fish to fry….

  51. Pucker February 18, 2017 at 12:38 am #

    The US has China encircled in an iron ring of military installations. Trump could probably negotiate a quid pro quo with the Chinese.

  52. Pucker February 18, 2017 at 12:40 am #

    If there is a Chinese long term game plan, it’s to wait until the US empire collapses under its own weight.

  53. RobRhodes February 18, 2017 at 12:52 am #

    Perhaps it is time for voters to march on Langley, the real seat of power, to take the country back. I understand there is a statue of Allen Dulles within, that would be a fitting symbol to topple!

  54. Pucker February 18, 2017 at 12:58 am #

    Which member of China’s current 7 member Standing Committee of the Politburo can go one-on-one, toe-to-toe with Donald Trump in basketball? Ice hockey?

  55. Pucker February 18, 2017 at 1:08 am #

    Trump beats Li Keqiang in basketball by 2 points and after the big game to an ebullient screaming crowd of flag waving Americans gloats to the press:

    “I always Win. I always Win because I know how to Win. I am a Winner.”

  56. janet February 18, 2017 at 1:29 am #

    “Do we believe we can “win” fighting Russia” –Learner

    Yes. Taking down Russia will be a cake walk. Putin cannot match American strength. Not militarily. Not economically. Putin has weakened Russia with his corruption and his militarism.

    Russia is poorer now than before Putin’s adventurism in Crimea. Its GDP has halved to less than that of Italy, and barely a quarter of its people have any savings (down from 72 per cent in 2013). Putin is feared (he has to project macho strength) but Russia is not strong.

    • thwack February 18, 2017 at 4:26 pm #

      Thats all fine and well “Janet”, but as anybody who has lived in the ghetto knows,

      its not wise to fight people who have less to lose than you.

      In other words, its a lot less easier for them to fuck you up your “system”; than it is for you to fuck their “system.”

      The U.S has way more “soft white underbelly” than any other nation.

      Just sayin.

  57. janet February 18, 2017 at 1:35 am #

    Former CIA chief David Petraeus has dropped out of consideration for the NatSec post, according to the Wall Street Journal. That makes zero wins and ten losses for 45.

    45 tweeted “SEE YOU IN COURT” but that turned out to be another lie as Twitler backed down, rescinded his order on immigration, and refused to appeal to the Supreme Court, knowing he would lose again. Zero wins, eleven losses. Or as Hillary would tweet:

    0-11

  58. janet February 18, 2017 at 1:38 am #

    “Sit down and shut the fuck up.” –wm5135 to Janet

    LOL! She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted. Thanks for the set-up, wm5135.

  59. Pucker February 18, 2017 at 1:55 am #

    Yawn…Fart….

    “Democratic Party activists who tried unsuccessfully to sink Hillary Clinton’s nomination at last year’s convention are at it again, pestering national party members ahead of next week’s vote on a new chairman.”

  60. Pucker February 18, 2017 at 2:39 am #

    I’m putting all my Renminbi on Li Yuan Chao to be elected the next DNC Chairman next week.

  61. tucsonspur February 18, 2017 at 3:47 am #

    The land of Don Quixote and Pablo Picasso beckons….

    yahoo.com/news/red-cross-assists-hundreds-migrants-entered-spain-084555096.html

  62. K-Dog February 18, 2017 at 4:05 am #

    It is a shower curtain. A big shiny gold shower curtain for a pachyderm. D. Trump is pachyderm not an Equus africanus asinus and they are big.

    So the red white and blue motif will have to stand aside for a bit of Nero or perhaps Caligula color for a bit. I’m not a fan. We rhyme with the time of the Twelve Caesars and not the Five Good Emperors.

    • Cavepainter February 18, 2017 at 7:20 am #

      K-dog, early on in this run of posts you proposed, “properly implemented anarchical democratic socialism” in place of the US’s form of democratic republic. I was dazzled by the expression, how it so matched Noam Chomsky’s “colorless green ideas sleep”.

      • K-Dog February 18, 2017 at 1:18 pm #

        “During its Winter Executive Session in the nation’s capital this week the National Congress of American Indians (NCAI) passed a resolution in opposition of a wall being constructed on the southern border of the United States on tribal lands without consent of the affected tribes.”

        No guacamole for you. Under properly implemented anarchical democratic socialism the NCA would have a voice. Thank you for the complement. Being compared to genius does not suck. Now nap and dream of mechanical sheep.

        • Cavepainter February 19, 2017 at 2:56 pm #

          Not a favorable comparison, you missed the point, but,……that’s just you.

  63. FincaInTheMountains February 18, 2017 at 7:05 am #

    Taking down Russia will be a cake walk. Putin cannot match American strength. == janet

    Very small group of Russian forces in Syria has proved to be completely self-sufficient, not only in terms of fulfilling the task, but in the matter of self-defense against all threats and all parties to the conflict. And the temptation of the US and NATO to knock this group over was obviously present.

    The apparent success in Syria may delay the start of WWIII, because the West in the main types of weapons is technically far behind, and the tactics and strategy have sunk to the pursuit of Papuans in the desert or in the mountains. All the equipment is worn out and there is nothing to repair it with, and new equipment does not arrive, and not the fact that it is even projected.

    Can you teach a steam iron to fly for a trillion dollars? Yes, you can. But can you fight with it? Not a fact. To stop production of F35 is not possible: its production is spread over all 50 States. This failed project can not be closed for political reasons: any congressmen who vote against the F35 is not longer electable in his state.

    Military plane crashes everywhere, but in the case of our American friends every such accident comes at the price of annual budget of a small European country.

    American weapons are so expensive that your categorically can’t fight with them.

    Nevertheless, let us summarize some of the gaps in the world’s most powerful Military:

    1. Main Battle Tank Abrams is no longer produced at all, only some repairs and modernization. Tanks simply can not be replaced. Currently there is no production of tanks and probably will not be in the near future, all production capacity is lost. Abrams tank designed for a specific task: to stand on a hillock in Europe and leisurely shot at columns of old Soviet T-72.

    2. Aircraft are very old and worn out in the wars with the Papuans; the actual combat capabilities of new aircraft are not known to anyone. According to information from propaganda, commercials and Hollywood no one have equal to them: enough to stand next to them and you are already invincible.

    3. The large-caliber US machine gun has recently turned 100 years old. Well, it does shoot still. So it’s OK, I guess.

    4. With high probability we can assume that in the first 100 days of the conflict all the large US surface ships will be sunk by anti-ship missiles. US aircraft carriers if they are not sunk will still not be able to take aircraft and there will be no one to supply them at sea, in the best case, they will have to leave. Everything that flies will also be shot down.

    5. To kill and die. With the loss of the first soldier morale of the American platoon falls by 50%. With the loss of 10% of the personnel platoon loses its ability to resist even if fighting for its own life. Contract army!

    6. Small US arms having problems in clashes with Papuans armed with old Soviet-style AK-47.

    7. US nuclear triad was made when Grandpa Brezhnev was still marching full-height under the table. There is an assumption that most of the warheads in the US are already processed into fuel for the 100 US nuclear power plants and military missiles are standing in service with empty combat blocks.

    8. If the new Russian weapons came into production on industrial scale and are shipped to the troops and even sold abroad, our American friends only having the scandals about the weapons.

    9. In the United States there was an overall reduction in the industrial base of the production of material wealth, well, are you planning production of new weapons in China? Well, maybe some of the components. All components? With high probability the US military-industrial complex will grind to a standstill without the element base from China.

    10. US weapons systems lack of continuity due to patent laws and policies of MIC corporations, and therefore the possibility of weapon upgrades is very little or zero. Need an upgraded weapon system – buy a new one.

    11. The overall strategic situation for the United States is far from ideal: Crimea closed the southern direction and made Ukraine in the military sense useless for NATO. Kaliningrad made group of NATO forces in the Baltic States meaningless and without taking Kaliningrad rapid success of NATO’s possible to a much lesser extent or simply not possible at all.

    Our American friends are spoiling for a fight, a little rub – fight with what?

    • thwack February 18, 2017 at 4:40 pm #

      “American weapons are so expensive that your categorically can’t fight with them.”

      ****************************

      In addition, many of them may not even work under wartime conditions. The Mark 14 torpedo is a great example. The tests and trials were rigged by the manufacturer, then when the WW2 came, the sub commanders were scratching holes in they heads trying to figure out WTF just happened?

      Its probably worse now since weapons systems have become so complex that ONLY the manufacturer can understand how they are SUPPOSED to work.

  64. FincaInTheMountains February 18, 2017 at 7:50 am #

    Russian strategic bombers Tu-95MS attacked with cruise missiles X-101 militants of “Islamic state” in the region of the Syrian city of Raqqa.

    The operation to free the Syrian town of al-Bab from militants of the terrorist group “Islamic state” has been completed.

    A blow to Raqqa was of strategic importance. Yesterday was a closed meeting of the new head of the State Department Tillerson and Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov. The subsequent attack on Raqqa stressed that Russia will be the one that will take Raqqa.

    Trump is keen to work with Putin to combat ISIS, which means first of all that Trump wants to enter Syria.

    To put Trump in a disadvantageous situation Putin needs as soon as possible to show that Raqqa we are about to take, you do not have any time, you are still in Mosul.

    Therefore, in the coming days and weeks we will see a lot of news associated with this city.

    Everything has to happen that Putin will give victory over ISIS to Trump and Trump will give Putin Ukraine. But the appearance will be of course different.

    • ozone February 18, 2017 at 8:39 am #

      Finca,
      Once again, your insult our deductive abilities. You’re spreading the absolute lamest bullet point of agit-prop with this Russia-as-grasping-imperialist crap. Sure, Russia would like an all-round buffer zone of sympathetic countries to keep dangerously desperate and blackmailed Washington-toady states at arms length, but that’s just laughably impractical (as was proven by the unsustainability of the USSR.)
      Please refer to what JHK quite succinctly wrote:

      “The next disturbing element of the situation is all the war-drum beating by the same cast of characters: the [Intelligence Community], the Democratic Party, and major media. Why in hell are we antagonizing Russia? In the last month of Obama’s term — and for the first time in many years — NATO moved a bunch of tanks close to Russia’s border with the Baltic states. Do you really think Russia wants to reoccupy these countries for the pleasure of subsidizing them and draining the Russian treasury? In those twilight days of Obama, government officials made wild and unspecific charges about “Russian aggression,” and vague assertions about Russian plans to dominate the global scene. Major what-the-fuck there. There’s the ugly situation in Ukraine, of course, but that was engineered by Obama’s state department. Do you know why Russia annexed Crimea after that? It couldn’t have been for more transparently rational reasons.” -JHK

      Please drop this particular foolish theme, Finca; it makes you appear “un-thoughtful”.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 18, 2017 at 9:39 am #

        Ukraine will remain an independent Republic, but united under the Banner of the Donetsk People’s Republic, which is a true heir to Ukraine last Constitutional Government – it was democratically elected after coup d’etat in Kiev – with strict adherence to Minsk-2 agreements, which were recognised by Security Council of the UN.

        The Junta which is currently in power in Kiev got there by anti-Constitutional coup d’etat of 2014 and is guilty of well-documented war crimes.

        Not sure how that would made Russia an aggressor.

        Regarding so-called “unsustainability of the USSR”, as I said before that must be done after Germany would be served with the bill for around 3 trillion Euros for damage done to Russia during WWII.

        Germany support for Nazi Kiev regime and instigating a coup in Kiev (a year before was agreed with Clinton) made all agreements between Kohl and Gorbachev null and void.

  65. Pucker February 18, 2017 at 8:12 am #

    Janet….

    “THE FBI OPERATES on the internet with unprecedented vigor and under loose rules, according to secret internal guidelines obtained by The Intercept, with undercover agents freely chatting online with unsuspecting people who are not even under investigation.
    The bureau has made online counterterrorism a strategic focus, lavishing staff and attention on a clearinghouse project called Net Talon and measuring performance through such metrics as the amount of time agents spend online, how many postings they make, and the personas they create. The FBI’s virtual tentacles are so ubiquitous that the bureau sometimes finds itself investigating its own people.”

    theintercept.com/2017/01/31/the-fbi-gives-itself-lots-of-rope-to-pull-in-informants/

  66. Pucker February 18, 2017 at 8:20 am #

    The Technosphere—-They’re Insane….

  67. Pucker February 18, 2017 at 8:28 am #

    According to “The Intercept”, it seems that the FBI issues “National Security Letters” (NSLs) to internet service providers and other potential sources of information to gather information on targets and to build control files on targets as potential informants. Apparently, the FBI has started to automate the issuing of NSLs using software robots to issue the NSLs.

    The Technosphere—They’ve gone MAD….

  68. ozone February 18, 2017 at 9:08 am #

    This thin, “Russia done it!” theme is nothing but a distraction to keep us from examining what turns out to be a surprisingly existential question for us as American citizens in regards to a self-preserving bureaucracy and its burgeoning Stasi: Who’s minding the store… really?

    “…over the last few weeks America has been in the throes of an unprecedented revolt. Not of the people against the government—that happened last year—but of the government against the people. What this says about the state of American democracy, and what it portends for the future, is incredibly disturbing.”

    zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-17/who-really-rules-united-states

    • FincaInTheMountains February 18, 2017 at 9:47 am #

      “over the last few weeks America has been in the throes of an unprecedented revolt”

      All “unprecedented revolt” happens 99.9% in Media – CNN, ABC, NY Times and such – you turn them off, and everything is going according to the plan.

      And the plan is simple: Make America Great Again!

  69. Cold N. Holefield February 18, 2017 at 9:44 am #

    spraypainter said: Yes, Bozos come and go, but the system manages to balance out as time goes by.

    Bullshit!! This is such a misleading statement without appropriate elaboration & context. The System constantly strives, in perpetuity, to establish equilibrium so it is necessarily constantly calibrating & recalibrating but it’s doing so on a trend line that is increasingly dysfunctional leading to more complex machinations & mechanisms to produce and attain that equilibrium. At some point, the cost or strain or effort required for equilibrium becomes too great and the System comes tumbling down or it implodes and then another one rises from the flames & ashes of the first if any one is left to raise the Phoenix.

    How do we know when we’ve reached the breaking point where the effort for equilibrium becomes too great? Peak Bozo, that’s how. We’re there. We have reached Peak Bozo. Down down down into a burnin’ ring of fire. But it ain’t over ’til the Fat Bitch sings. We’re close, but not quite yet. Every day from here on out will be spectacularly more absurdly astonishing than the last. Any one who isn’t questioning their sanity at this point is already insane.

    • beantownbill. February 18, 2017 at 10:52 am #

      Funny you should mention that. 45 years ago I questioned my own sanity and determined everyone else was crazy except me. Does that mean I’m insane?

      • malthuss February 18, 2017 at 10:57 am #

        Sanity – Insanity is a continuum, not ‘Either-Or.’

        Meanwhile USA is still on the decline,

        youtube.com/watch?v=VQtqQeRbd5s

        • beantownbill. February 18, 2017 at 11:36 am #

          i believe insanity is like being a little pregnant – one can’t be a little crazy. Craziness doesn’t need an adjective before it.

          Is the US really in decline, or is what we are seeing just accelerating change – not good or bad, just different?

          • malthuss February 19, 2017 at 1:00 am #

            Yes, I see the USA in a spectacular, endless war, 20 trillion debt, collapse.

            With huge increase in population.

    • beantownbill. February 18, 2017 at 10:55 am #

      Arthur C. Clark once stated that not only is reality stranger than we know, it’s stranger than we CAN know.

    • Cavepainter February 19, 2017 at 10:41 am #

      What’s this “system” you are hysterically bugling, the innate traits of humanity, including the propensity of the most ruthlessly ambitious to quest for monopolizing power? Echo’s more a religious rant rather then a discussion on comparative governments. Why clog up this site discussion with your private Internal neurotic turmoil?

  70. Cold N. Holefield February 18, 2017 at 9:48 am #

    When in doubt, for all your answers on what’s transpiring and what to do about it, why, there’s no better source to turn to than Wall Street itself, aka Naked Capitalism and Zero Hedge. Wall Street — it’s not only a large part of the problem but it’s also beneficently the solution and the reporting of everything in between, before and thereafter.

  71. volodya February 18, 2017 at 10:39 am #

    Elysian, thank you for a realpolitik corrective to all this almighty posturing by those low-down crooks in the Democratic Party. That’s not to say that their political opposites are any less foul. But to howl about foreign meddling in an American election when Americans meddle in foreign elections all the time is up there in the ionosphere of hypocrisy.

    Was there leakage of emails? Of course. Was it Russians that did it? What have we got aside from the say-so of lyin’ bastard intelligence agencies that have got zero credibility and whose efforts to up-end the results of the presidential election is obvious to anybody with functioning eyeballs? IMO, in the absence of hard evidence we can safely disregard what they say. The fact that they strenuously insist that it is so makes it massively LESS probable that it really IS so. And Assange said it wasn’t the Russians. Whether you want to believe him is up to you. Others, who claim to know, say it was a leaker in the Democrat Party.

    And Jesus H! Disinformation? Fake News? Holy fuck, are the ninnies that utter these words really that stupid? Do these bi-coastal bubble people that stand up straight and tall and superior and pretend to know everything not know that disinformation has been the stock in trade of Russian-American relations since the word go? Do they think that it’s just the Russians and the USSR in Russia’s previous incarnation that peddled in lies? Are they really serious about overthrowing Trump with THAT flimsy a rationalization?

    But maybe you or someone else can tell me, what would be the Russian interest in having Trump as president as opposed to Hillary? It isn’t obvious to me. Isn’t Putin the strongman whose mission it is to return Russia to imperial grandeur? Wouldn’t Putin need an external foe to buttress his political support? Who better than those perfidious meddling Yanks? Who better personifies the perfidious meddling Yank than Hillary? After all, wasn’t the Deep State four-square behind her?

    Ok, maybe I’m way out on a limb. But the real issue here is that the Democrats lost. And seriously, they lost legitimately, by-the-book and because of their own idiocy, against a laughably un-suited adversary.

    Russian meddling? If the Democrats had won, there wouldn’t be a peep about Russian meddling. No, too bad, so sad, the Democrats are doing their level best to not see what’s under their nose ie they nominated a lousy, corrupt, monumentally on-the-take politician who was under FBI investigation for not following common sensical procedures for safe transmission and storage of State Department communications.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 18, 2017 at 11:11 am #

      Who better personifies the perfidious meddling Yank than Hillary?

      The problem with Hillary as an external foe to “buttress Putin political support” is that she’s fucked up far enough and doesn’t give a flying bleep about her home country to push the whole thing into a real hot stage with all possible consequences

    • elysianfield February 18, 2017 at 12:46 pm #

      “But maybe you or someone else can tell me, what would be the Russian interest in having Trump as president as opposed to Hillary”

      Volodya,
      Well, hard to say. Hillary was perceived as inimical to Russian interests, as is the “Deep state/entrenched bureaucracy”. Trump perceived as an unknown…A shit-stirrer…ostensibly friendly towards rapprochement with Russia, a possible friend, or at least a useful idiot. Putin plays chess…Trump…checkers?

      Batista or Castro?
      Diem or Ky?
      Shah or the Ayatolla?

      Sides are always picked.

  72. FincaInTheMountains February 18, 2017 at 11:02 am #

    I continue to go through the first Trump’s press conference. The media have convinced themselves that Trump is bubbling nonsense, and simply can not believe that Trump every word grinds on a lapidary machine, although examples there’re plenty. For instance I still do not believe he’s really going to deport millions of illegal immigrants.

    Meanwhile, he declared a real war on Media and promises them the next week to arrange a decimation, the more menacing and inescapable, that he had once promised to forgive them all, if they cease to lie about it, and for a while the New York Times held its side of the bargain, but in fact, they all broke down on a Flynn affair and bent down under Clintons once more.

    Now reconciliation is extremely problematic and they understand it. This is manifested primarily in the fact that at the lowest level Clintonoids are prone to panic, even at the height of triumphant reports and even the most winning tweets of Bastinda, the Great and Terrible.

    I, frankly speaking, couple of years ago, infiltrated a couple of private forums of rabid Clintonoids and was struck by panic of members of these forums, after the appearance of the article about the reaction to the resignation of Flynn’s by the Russian embassy, which posted on Twitter a photo of hamburgers along with a statement that no negotiations on the lifting of sanctions is underway.

    What they have not assumed in connection with this picture!!!

    But the most popular version was the hypothesis that the whole story with Flynn from the very beginning was a KGB provocation designed to compromise Hillary Clinton and her faithful squires to cancel a promise not to initiate a criminal case against her, which Trump publicly made.

    And personally, I was most struck by the fact that, as it turned out, even at the grassroots level Clinton supporters understand that she is a criminal, but are willing to forgive her for the sake of victory over Trump.

    And all this took place on 13 of February when Hillary openly celebrated the victory by placing the goals scored in Trump’s gate, while being in full confidence that she officially has no relation to this football team, and the promise given to her by Trump remains in force.

    Unfortunately her supporters do not share this confidence and suspect Trump readiness to over-Clinton Hillary Clinton, who had never in her life fulfilled any of her promises.

    And now, after the Trump press conference, they imagine such terrible things!!

  73. volodya February 18, 2017 at 11:07 am #

    Yep Mr Ozone, that really IS the question isn’t it? Who is minding the store?

    It appears that the cashiers, stock-boys, the produce and meat department managers and store detectives, cannot accept that there’s a new boss in that office back there. And so they’re doing what’s in their power and more importantly what’s NOT in their power to get rid of him.

    Well, what does this portend for the customers? See, this store that we speak of metaphorically really is part of the customers’ life support system. What it does or what it’s SUPPOSED to do in the customers’ service really is critical to their well-being and survival.

    Questioning the motives and actions of the store employees is within the customers’ purview. It is in the customers’ interest that the store employee abide by time-tested custom and rule-book.

    Nope, the store doesn’t exist just for the interests of the store employees. The only reason that the store is there is because the CUSTOMERS are there. The store is there for the customers, not the other way round.

  74. volodya February 18, 2017 at 11:55 am #

    Those seventeen intelligence community outposts are more like societal malignancies.

    These seventeen tumors metastasize, expanding into society’s vitals, eating at them, subverting society’s organs for the tumors’ selfish purposes, eventually making it impossible to function and killing the societal organism and the intelligence agency tumors themselves.

    See, that’s what the cancerous intelligence agencies don’t get. They refuse to live in harmony with the societal host, for the benefit of the host. They kill the host and themselves in the process.

  75. volodya February 18, 2017 at 12:07 pm #

    Why in hell are we antagonizing Russia?

    Good question. The antagonizers are the intellectual heirs of the geniuses that deemed it necessary to inflict calamities in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya. These are the guys that decry Trump’s intellectual and experiential inadequacies. Yet look at the catastrophes they’re responsible for.

    And all of that death and dreadfulness eminently avoidable. The Vietnamese proved their mettle against the French before the US waded in, the Afghans against the Russians. But no, the towering foreign policy and military elite refused to learn the most inexpensive lessons there are, those lessons coming from the mistakes of others.

    So here we are, those same mental defectives that think they know better, in the same positions of power, screwing up again.

    Countries, like businesses, don’t generally fail because they make a mistake, they fail because they keep making the SAME mistakes.

  76. volodya February 18, 2017 at 12:22 pm #

    The Flynn telephone call to the Russian ambassador is a whole pile of nothing. What is a whole pile of SOMETHING is what happened after, that being the coup underway as we watch, slack-jawed and dumbfounded at the sheer effrontery of it all.

    And what is even more dumbfounding is that the Democrats, who tell us all the time about their intellectual superiority, are with the plotters in the bid to remove Trump and to re-acquire the presidency.

    I guess these Democrat aren’t quite as bright as they pretend. I mean, how the fuck do you lose against somebody like Trump? But never mind that, if the Deep State can remove a Republican that’s not to the Deep State’s taste, once the precedent is set, it will do the same to a Democrat.

    The power to remove a president is a heady liqueur, once they get a taste of it, they’ll want more, if the Deep State gets away with it once, it’s not like it might happen again, it WILL happen again.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 18, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

      Swamp strikes back? Not so fast!

      Bloodbath at the State Department

      State Dept. carries out layoffs under Rex Tillerson

      cbsnews.com/news/state-dept-layoffs-under-rex-tillerson-being-carried-out/

    • elysianfield February 18, 2017 at 12:54 pm #

      “if the Deep State can remove a Republican that’s not to the Deep State’s taste, once the precedent is set, it will do the same to a Democrat. ”

      Perhaps they have already done the same to a Democrat…fifty+ years ago.

    • JimInFlorida February 18, 2017 at 4:26 pm #

      ZOG Amerika is poking and taunting The Bear because we are bound to a neo-Cold War narrative that we can’t back away from.

      Hundreds of trillions are riding upon the Bush-Obama narrative, which includes countless promises and foolish commitments. It’s the same reason why the War On Drugs will never go away. There’s way too much paper depending on the insanity to continue.

      Even though the entire political fiction we live under is insane on its face, and lacks any credibility, we HAVE to keep up the storyline. To admit it was a total failure, and can’t be maintained, would cause overnight collapse of everything built over the past 36 years.

      Who is behind the scenes with their inflexible and non-negotiable demands to skim the rents from the Status Quo? The billionaires and their running dogs. If their demands were neutralized (by the barrel of a gun or hangman’s rope), then the system could rebalance itself and even restore a more cash-and-savings oriented economy. Where debt is a temporary convenience and not made permanent by converting it into usury-based currency.

      Without permanent debt that MUST be kited by compound interest, there wouldn’t be the pressures for imperial war and other evils.

      • thwack February 18, 2017 at 4:54 pm #

        It’s the same reason why the War On Drugs will never go away. There’s way too much paper depending on the insanity to continue.

        *******************************

        couldn’t we get a few fake moon or Mars landings for the same money?

        thats way more sexy than using a $100,000 dollar Maverick missile to destroy a Toyota with a 50 in the bed…

        • JimInFlorida February 18, 2017 at 5:12 pm #

          There’s nothing on the Moon or Mars to steal and nothing worth laying claim to.

          Paper claims on Moon or Mars real estate can be invented but, unless the means to extract mineral wealth is feasible, that paper means nothing because there’s no income or commodities flowing from it.

          A far better use for a $100K Maverick missile is to fire it into the Rockefeller or Rothschild mansion!

          • thwack February 18, 2017 at 5:56 pm #

            This is where I must disagree with your concept of value JiF.

            The fake Apollo moon landings made the techno narcissism we worship today incarnate; which allows the average person to support all the foolish projects you complain about.

            The fake moon landings have paid for themselves 10 times over in terms of the amount and density of weapons grade “hopium” it continues to produce.

            The most often completed sentence in the known universe is:

            “If we could land a man on the moon, surely we can…”

          • elysianfield February 18, 2017 at 7:30 pm #

            “The most often completed sentence in the known universe is:

            “If we could land a man on the moon, surely we can…”

            Thwack,
            Do you know the second most often used sentence in the known Universe is?

            “Don’t call me Shirley…”

  77. FincaInTheMountains February 18, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

    President Trump Weekly Address

    facebook.com/WhiteHouse/videos/1226385200782544/

    Just fast forward it to mark 5:10.

  78. FincaInTheMountains February 18, 2017 at 1:21 pm #

    Putin plays chess…Trump…checkers? == elysian

    Flynn was one of the pillars of the Trump’s campaign and was supposed to be one of the pillars of the President’s team. But something went wrong and Flynn had to be surrendered.

    And what if not surrendered but sacrificed? If Flynn figure was originally conceived to be sacrificed to the sounds of fanfare of supporters of Hillary Clinton, celebrating victory, to put from an ambush in the new queen, who will take control of the most critical of all the key positions?

    Flynn is ideally suited to the role of the sacrificial victim – all his previous activities in different positions, where he was appointed on a regular basis and also regularly sent to resignation. Flynn is an analyst with cold reason, playing the role of a hot opponent of elite democrats, conducting their business in different parts of the world in their own, not America’s best interest.

    It is hard to come up with a better candidate for the role of distracting figure.

  79. thwack February 18, 2017 at 1:44 pm #

    Im starting to think JHK might be right.

    Somebody ain’t gonna last 4 years if its gonna be like this?

    It might be the country itself?

    yikes.

  80. FlavianPlot February 18, 2017 at 2:02 pm #

    Again with this watered down notion of revolution, first from Bernie Bros and now sTrumpets:

    “Not of the people against the government—that happened last year—but of the government against the people.” — Ozone’s share

    Here it is again, convenient meme shifting from a gossipy news site. I don’t call it fake news, it’s an honest opinion. I take it for what it is. I do understand your personal sentiments, Ozone, but the people lost the election in every sense. It’s been well documented how easy it is to stuff and shave the digital ballot box. It truly was a rigged game, and in no way was the deep state Trumped by The folk.

    Hillary came right up to the razor’s edge of indictment and still got away. I’ll bet my life she forfeited. It’s the getaway caper of the century.

    Trump’s marketing knack only indicates that he’s immersed in social media imagery and meme. He was shilling for a better deal on his reality show. He tapped into neurotic onlline mental nodes like a fuckin’ wizard. His daughter’s kindness, neophyte son in-law’s instinct and Bannon’s pointed yet veiled apocalyptic-nationalist rhetoric persuades/saves/covers his ass with moderates, barely.

    It’s his mystique that’s on borrowed time, not his presidency, I believe. What do morons do when their Gawd is taken from them?

    I don’t even hate the guy. Trump is a liberal reformist throwback who has hobnobbed with government/business elitists his entire life because he is one. He’s a soft-hearted loudmouth in a suit, with New York socialite-tacky class. He’s not racist, and at his core he’s a rather benign mercantilist-capitalist with a somewhat intelligible platform on trade, immigration, and basic domestic security. But he lacks the combined knowledge and skills to communicate those ideas credibly and reassuringly to serious people. Podunk mentality butt-fucks, yes, he has a telepathic link with them. The type of people who ONLY watch TV and surf the web. My family gets him.

    The problem is that he tries to intuit EVERYTHING to his audience and that only works on a highly demoralized, vice-addicted group of emotional reactionaries with no capacity to drive ideas themselves. To believe in Trump, one almost HAS to be white or white-washed and must to cling to the logical fallacy that the future must resemble a snapshot of the past in order to be stable.

    Sorry, I know this is dismissive, but this is what nearly a century of highly coordinated propagandizing does to institution and culture. He appeals to idea consumers, not citizens and idea producers. arachnoid.com/levels/index.html

    You guys discuss this shit on CFN year in and year out, and I’m amazed many of the wise old farts here excuse Trump and much of his constituency for such distinct experiential shortcomings.
    His podium act appeals to couch tater sports fans mostly, no matter their individual socioeconomic rank. That ain’t good enough.

    He needed a real plan for winning (but you know he didn’t want to), and a methodical plan for soft power governing to match his hard power bluster. But what did he do? He immediately let the criminals off the hook, which was central to his campaign theme, and then he — without hesitation — assumed the deep state mantle, plus shot his mouth off at Iran and China. How much more proof of stooopid does one need?

    Though his posts show up at one of those tabloidy sites, Mike Whitney has the Russia thing pegged:
    informationclearinghouse.info/46471.htm

    • JimInFlorida February 18, 2017 at 5:42 pm #

      Mike Whitney alludes to the very thing I’ve been pounding on for quite a long time, here on CFN.

      Kill The Billionaires or Billions Will Be Killed. It’s just that simple(TM).

      Since Putin and Russia are threatened by a ZOG Matrix in great financial distress, it is in Putin’s (and the world’s) interest to EXTERMINATE the Billionaires, since THEY ALONE have the motive to either push for WW3 or to stop it. The “ruling elites” you see are only the executives and lieutenants of the Real Powers that are giving the orders. The Billionaires will stop WW3 in its tracks JUST TO SAVE THEIR OWN HIDES.

      Before we reach the point where Putin must exterminate The Billionaires, and save the world, President Trump will have to have an epiphany about the Zionist crew that he was forced to appoint and that epiphany can only come from the movie, “Dr. Strangelove.”

      In the movie, President Merkin Muffley realized that it was impossible to gain control of events within TPTB. The ONLY solution was to tell the Russians how to defeat the, “Wing Attack – Plan R,” already in progress. That only disarmed TPTB, though. It didn’t cure the disease. But, for us, there is a chance it might be enough to bring it under control.

      By helping Russia to disarm TPTB, we may not have to amputate the billionaire gangrene that threatens to kill humanity. Strong antibiotics (95% top tax rate and a 1% Wall Street Sales Tax), therapy (reverse Reaganomics and Jew-driven immigration policies), and counseling (New Deal-era respect for domestic Labor and put society’s freaks back in the closet) will do much to put the cancer into remission and without the shock of an outright amputation.

      Even in remission, the amputation of the Billionaires should ALWAYS be kept prominently displayed on the table as the ultimate deterrent to WW3.

      • tucsonspur February 18, 2017 at 7:22 pm #

        “EXTERMINATE the Billionaires, since THEY ALONE have the motive to either push for WW3 or to stop it.” JIf

        What would that motive be, assuming “MAD” is the most likely outcome?

        Wouldn’t millionaires then take the place of billionaires?

        Would billionaire Putin kill himself? Where does it end?

        Did Cro-Magnon man say, “let’s croak all the Neanderthals, they have too many hides and furs”? Maybe.

        • K-Dog February 18, 2017 at 8:58 pm #

          Would it be OK if you only had $999,999,999.99 in net worth?

          As to the Neanderthals they became hides and furs.

        • JimInFlorida February 18, 2017 at 10:11 pm #

          Nitpicking, absurd extrapolations, and wrong conclusions. I get it that the vast majority of people simply cannot see what is in front of them every day.

          MAD is no longer a deterrent as the neocons genuinely believe that they can survive in underground complexes with their Billionaire masters and their children will rebuild the world. With the world’s knowledge preserved for that purpose, they believe that the world can be restored in 20-25 years and be vastly better without all the Goyim and useless eaters.

          There isn’t a clear dividing line i.e K-Dog’s juvenile assertion that having $999,999,999.99 is safe and one penny more is evil.

          The problem arises from the concentration of so much private power and wealth that the political process is distorted and used against the People that it is supposed to serve.

          Billionaires, in the Great Cleansing, can be given the option to surrender their ill-gotten gain and accept life in an exile colony. They are more dangerous to life on Earth than any bio-weapon in a maximum security facility.

          The Billionaires are a parasitic class that exploded from the malevolent design of Reaganomics. The objective was to privatize the wealth of the West and place it in a few hands. Thus avoiding the political process of how and where the People’s money ought to go. Their objective is to privatize the world, which enables the Billionaires to enslave the survivors of WW3 and conscript them for reconstruction.

          The world produces enough for everybody to have enough and be comfortable. The evils of Trickle-Down economics are undeniable and prove that there must be a hard ceiling as to how much can be acquired above that. A broad envelope of wealth distribution, favoring productive labor, ensures that the political process is not distorted by the Rich but, promotes the general welfare and ensures domestic tranquility.

    • thwack February 18, 2017 at 6:46 pm #

      FlavianPlot,

      did you write that yourself?

      or is it a cut and paste job?

      Its a pretty friggin accurate painting of the Trump phenomenon.

  81. janet February 18, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

    “The only reason that the store is there is because the CUSTOMERS are there. The store is there for the customers, not the other way round.” –volodya

    So why is management gung ho on building a wall around the store to keep paying customers out? Why is management busy throwing certain paying customers out of the store? Why isn’t management investing in store infrastructure to enhance the experience of paying customers? Everyone in this store is a paying customer and has to pay taxes, even if only sales taxes.

  82. janet February 18, 2017 at 2:56 pm #

    45 (aka Twitler) has promised to deliver “great health care at lower cost” and vowed that “everybody would be covered.” Republicans in congress reject the whole concept of health care as a right.

    How is this conflict between 45 and conservative Republicans going to end well for the paying customers in the store, volodya?

  83. Pucker February 18, 2017 at 8:20 pm #

    According the Glen Greenwald of “The Intercept”, the FBI may now be in a bureaucratic turf battle with the CI…A over domestic spying. The FBI is now in the business of blackmailing people and creating “Control Files” on people in order create informant networks in the US and overseas. So is the C…IA. Obama handed Trump the keys to a police state. The application of computer software robots in the mindless bureaucracies make the situation particularly crazy.

    • K-Dog February 18, 2017 at 8:41 pm #

      Pucker. Did you know that:

      Undercover FBI Agents Swarm the Internet Seeking Contact With Terrorists

      &

      The FBI’s online activities are so pervasive that the bureau sometimes finds itself investigating its own people.

      They might even be here. What do you think of that?

  84. K-Dog February 18, 2017 at 8:47 pm #

    “The FBI operates on the internet with unprecedented vigor and under loose rules, according to secret internal guidelines obtained by The Intercept, with undercover agents freely chatting online with unsuspecting people who are not even under investigation.”

    “The FBI’s online activities are apparently pervasive and uncoordinated enough to lead to confusion. The document refers to “resources being wasted by investigating or collecting on FBI online identities,” including undercover employees, informants, or people who have already been investigated by other offices or agencies. An FBI official told the Intercept, “You would be in a forum, and you’re like, ‘This person’s way out there,’ and we’ve gone and opened up a case, and sometimes that was a local police department, or a friendly foreign service. There are still instances of that, and deconfliction is still necessary.””

    • Pucker February 18, 2017 at 9:34 pm #

      In the future, “that Way-Out-There Person” posting comments online could be a software robot.

      They’ve gone totally Insane…..

      • beantownbill. February 18, 2017 at 11:18 pm #

        Remember, at present, humans have to program the robots to say the things they do.

    • nsa February 18, 2017 at 11:37 pm #

      We here in Ft. Meade gather information only and distribute it to other agencies if it is deemed of interest and actionable. This is not recent. Total Information Awareness was achieved in 2001. Every key stroke. Every phone call. Every text message. The other agencies are not so passive. Over in Langley, the lads have asserted the right to kill anyone, US citizen or foreigner….any time….any place…..for any reason they see fit with effectively no oversight. And yes, any employee of the FBI or IRS or a dozen other agencies can feed your name anonymously into a computer…..for any reason or even no reason at all……and your existence will be turned into a Kafkaesque nightmare. You went through a messy divorce and your vindictive ex sister-in-law works for the IRS….you could soon have a problem. Welcome to the full flowering of the National Security State. This is what Full Spectrum Dominance and Total Information Awareness looks like.

  85. beantownbill. February 18, 2017 at 11:15 pm #

    This comment section has been hijacked by nutcakes and anti-semites.

    You have to be absolutely bonkers and paranoid to think that the moon landing was faked. If I was crazy and willing to put out the energy, I’m sure I could concoct a seemingly plausible scenario that shows the space program is a put-on. But I’d be wrong and a wacko to boot.

    I’d also be a fruitcake if I honestly believed that Zionists run the US and most of the world. Sure, a small country with a population of 4 or 5 million Jews controls the world’s most powerful country consisting of 325 million people, as well as the 700 million people of Europe. You have to be a special kind of stupid to really believe this.

    No, the seemingly intelligent posters who believe all this dreck have another purpose: To throw this site into disarray such that cogent discussions about our real issues are short-circuited into irrelevance.

    I don’t know how much longer I’ll continue posting on CFN, but I’ll tell you, as long as I do, I’ll always call out these assholes (“assholes” doesn’t adequately describe the heinousness of these shitbums).

    • thwack February 19, 2017 at 1:08 am #

      I don’t know how much longer I’ll continue posting on CFN, but I’ll tell you, as long as I do, I’ll always call out these assholes

      *********************************

      How bout if you just hate blacks?

      Is that still allowed?

      • elysianfield February 19, 2017 at 10:36 am #

        “How bout if you just hate blacks?

        Is that still allowed?”

        Thwack,
        Nobody hates you because your meme is black…there are many other reasons.

        • thwack February 19, 2017 at 12:08 pm #

          This isn’t about me.

          Its about the existing hierarchy of abuse, and whether it should be maintained or scrapped?

          If people can be mistreated on the basis of color, then anybody should be subject to mistreatment on any other basis.

          Making the firing squad circular may be whats necessary to achieve better trigger discipline and shot placement?

          Im just doing my part.

          *you’re welcome*

          • elysianfield February 19, 2017 at 7:11 pm #

            Thwack.

            You will look long and hard to find an instance where a black person is being abused only as a result of his color. Cultural issues abound, perceptions of a person acting or looking like a thug, or as being uncouth, or a dangerous predator, are the issues.

            Content of Character, thwack, is why many blacks are treated differently than civilized citizens…many blacks ain’t civil….

            Quit whining about color, wash your ass, put on some clean clothes and a smile, and assimilate.

            WELCOME TO CIVILIZATION!

    • elysianfield February 19, 2017 at 10:33 am #

      “I’d also be a fruitcake if I honestly believed that Zionists run the US and most of the world. Sure, a small country with a population of 4 or 5 million Jews controls the world’s most powerful country consisting of 325 million people, as well as the 700 million people of Europe. You have to be a special kind of stupid to really believe this.”

      Bill,
      Can you explain Russia, 1917?

      I do not believe that Zionists run the US…just have a lot of influence in it’s Government and culture.

      • beantownbill. February 19, 2017 at 12:46 pm #

        EF,

        If Jews had so much influence in Russia for centuries, explain why they officially weren’t even allowed to have surnames (last names or family names). They had first names and were identified other ways, like that’s Joe the barber’s son.

        Many Bolshevics were Jewish, no doubt. If they were revolutionaries, I can understand, given how poorly they were treated by the Russian people. Payback was indeed a bitch. But the chief revolutionary was Lenin, a non-Jew. The other influential Jewish Bolshevics just happened to be Jewish; there was no active plot by world Jewry to overthrow the Russian government, although l’m sure the anti-Semitic crazies here will try to prove otherwise.

        It is true that there are Jews that have a lot of influence in America, but that’s because they have risen to the top of their fields due to excellence in achievement, not because of Jewish plotting. It’s a favorite ploy of the anti-Semitic fruitcakes to equate Jewishness with Zionism. Zionism is simply a desire that many, but not all Jews have to re-establish a society in their own historic land, and for 1900 years they weren’t able to do that – not to rule the world.

        • elysianfield February 19, 2017 at 7:58 pm #

          there was no active plot by world Jewry to overthrow the Russian government, although l’m sure the anti-Semitic crazies here will try to prove otherwise.”

          Bill,
          The Bolshevik leadership argues otherwise. World Jewry? Probably not, even if there is such an entity…I haven’t been getting the news letter lately….

  86. janet February 18, 2017 at 11:58 pm #

    “Many of Trump’s policy proposals are framed in terms of direct causation. Immigrants are flooding in from Mexico — build a wall to stop them. For all the immigrants who have entered illegally, just deport them — even if there are 11 million of them working throughout the economy and living throughout the country. The cure for gun violence is to have a gun ready to directly shoot the shooter. To stop jobs from going to Asia where labor costs are lower and cheaper goods flood the market here, the solution is direct: put a huge tariff on those goods so they are more expensive than goods made here. To save money on pharmaceuticals, have the largest consumer — the government — take bids for the lowest prices. If Isis is making money on Iraqi oil, send US troops to Iraq to take control of the oil. Threaten Isis leaders by assassinating their family members (even if this is a war crime). To get information from terrorist suspects, use water-boarding, or even worse torture methods. If a few terrorists might be coming with Muslim refugees, just stop allowing all Muslims into the country. All this makes sense to direct causation thinkers, but not those who see the immense difficulties and dire consequences of such actions due to the complexities of systemic causation.” –George Lakoff

  87. malthuss February 19, 2017 at 12:49 am #

    Bumble Bees endangered,

    youtube.com/watch?v=KNP27DSY_nU

  88. InAlaska February 19, 2017 at 2:32 am #

    JHK,

    I USUALLY really like your stuff. Its always really good. But not this time. This, this article is schlock. What gives with the paranoid ranting about spooks and generals taking over? If he is going to be removed, it’ll be through Section 4 of the 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution whereby the VP and a majority of his cabinet secretarys decree that he is unfit to serve. All this other stuff you’re spouting is just nonsense. There will be no cooked up war with Russia (that would lead to disaster) or a half-baked coup at home (that would lead to a civil war). Sorry, to have to chastise you, but you’re way off base on this one.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 19, 2017 at 7:26 am #

      Yes, I agree.

      The Trump’s position is much stronger that it appears, he enjoys support of the significant portion of the American elite (the one that is not tied up to dollar emission for their main stream of income), and, which is really not less important, a significant portion of American working people.

      I mean really working hard, not just shooting their mouth off like Mainstream Media. His Melbourne, Florida rally clearly showed that yesterday.

      I have a suspicion that this kind of rallies will be rather norm for Trump’s presidency.

    • elysianfield February 19, 2017 at 10:55 am #

      Section 4 of the 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution whereby the VP and a majority of his cabinet secretarys decree that he is unfit to serve

      It’s pronounced “KOOOOOOOOOOO”

      Do you think that exercising that power would be devoid of self-serving political intent? What is “unfit”? Lying comatose in a hospital bed would fit the definition…a group of psychoanalysts’ cherry-picked opinions, bought and paid for by the opposition, not so much.

      His removal would be seen as a craven power grab by a cabal of politicians, lawyers, and their owners…and that would probably be an accurate observation. What is normal? You, or any number of people involved in the art form known as Psychology could not even define “normal”, if a consensus were required…unfit, indeed.

      Exercising the 25th amendment would be seen as a coup d’e tat …even if it weren’t. High-Jinx to follow….

  89. johngalt February 19, 2017 at 4:27 am #

    “When fear becomes collective, when anger becomes collective, it’s extremely dangerous. It is overwhelming… The mass media and the military-industrial complex create a prison for us, so we continue to think, see, and act in the same way… We need the courage to express ourselves even when the majority is going in the opposite direction… because a change of direction can happen only when there is a collective awakening… Therefore, it is very important to say, ‘I am here!’ to those who share the same kind of insight.” -Thich Nhat Hanh, Zen master, poet, and scholar, The Art of Power. July 1, 2008.

    Sent from the New Republic.
    http://www.got-truth.com

  90. FincaInTheMountains February 19, 2017 at 6:03 am #

    Trump pretty clear threatens Hillary with Electric Chair:

    youtube.com/watch?v=jE4FuwR5CDU&t=2408

  91. FincaInTheMountains February 19, 2017 at 7:47 am #

    The FAKE NEWS media (failing nytimes, NBCNews, ABC, CBS, CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

    twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/832708293516632065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    Wow, that smells 37-58

    1937 – the year of the most intense purges in USSR

    58 – The article of USSR Penal Code – Enemy of the People

    58-14 (added on June 6, 1937) “Counter-revolutionary sabotage”, i.e., conscious non-execution or deliberately careless execution of “defined duties”, aimed at the weakening of the power of the government and of the functioning of the state apparatus is subject to at least one year of freedom deprivation, and under especially aggravating circumstances, up to the highest measure of social protection: execution by shooting with confiscation of property.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_58_(RSFSR_Penal_Code)

    • elysianfield February 19, 2017 at 11:01 am #

      Finc,
      I remember this vignette from “The Gulag…”

      First zek to another; “What are you in for?”

      Second zek; Article 58, but I didn’t do nothing”

      First zek; What did you get?

      Second zek…”A tenner”

      First zek; “Liar! for nothing you get 25!”

      • FincaInTheMountains February 19, 2017 at 12:13 pm #

        How much faith and forest had fallen,
        How acquainted with grief and with trails,
        And on the left chest – Stalin’s tattoo
        And on the right – Marina’s full face.

        I remember how bright early morning–
        Brother shouted: “you watch out!”
        And two pretty guardsmen
        Took me from Siberia to Siberia

        Oh, for the faith my selfless
        Many years I rest in paradise!
        I exchanged for utter hopelessness
        Utter folly of mine.

        Vladimir Vysotsky, 1966

        youtube.com/watch?v=ze5O2Ge-las

  92. FincaInTheMountains February 19, 2017 at 9:17 am #

    17 days before she left the White House, Hillary secretly changed the rule of information dissemination: what was before controlled by NSA, now goes to 16 other agencies which made the leaks of classified information inevitable

    youtube.com/watch?v=KLfUXH20Od8

  93. Titchfield February 19, 2017 at 11:06 am #

    Compared to what happened in 1789 and in 1870-71, the riots now occurring in Paris are small and feeble.  But they look ominous. They’re a foretaste of the bigger ones to come, maybe. These will begin if or when Francois Fillon or Marine Le Pen attempt to deport Muslims in quantity.

    Islam is a fighting creed.  The creed of most Frenchmen–bourgeois consumerism –is not. France is engaged in a war it’s not likely to win. The question: on what terms will Islam accept an armistice?

    It will be a tragic day when Notre Dame is turned into a mosque.

    • thwack February 19, 2017 at 12:14 pm #

      It will be a tragic day when Notre Dame is turned into a mosque.

      ******************************

      well its not like you guys are using it as a church?

      Just sayin

    • elysianfield February 19, 2017 at 7:25 pm #

      “The question: on what terms will Islam accept an armistice?”

      Titch,
      You’re serving up softballs today….

      What terms? Convert, Pay a Tax, or the Sword. It’s written in a book, somewhere….

  94. janet February 19, 2017 at 12:08 pm #

    “It will be a tragic day when Notre Dame is turned into a mosque.” –titchfield

    Both cathedral and mosque are places of worship of fictitious beings.

    Both promote monotheism. Both exercise control through threats. Both use fear and guilt to manipulate believers.

    Both have bloody histories fighting and killing the other, though Christians have engaged in far more violence recently by dropping drone bombs, invading, occupying and warring upon on several Muslim countries, affecting millions of people. You reap what you sow.

    • beantownbill. February 19, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

      Very, very true – and concise.

  95. Cold N. Holefield February 19, 2017 at 12:12 pm #

    beantownbill said: Remember, at present, humans have to program the robots to say the things they do.

    I’d like to have a talk with the “human” who programmed Donald Trump. He or she, Donald Trump’s programmer, appears to be a cross between Dr. Robert Ford and Redd Fox and this programming agenda is most assuredly not democratic.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 19, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

      I do not think that the word democracy ever mentioned in US Constitution.

    • thwack February 19, 2017 at 12:29 pm #

      No, Trump is more like a white Idi Amin. His silliness and buffoonery may be a cloak for grabbing power and getting things done that most people would find destructive and distasteful…

      “We are determined to make the ordinary Ugandan master of his own destiny and, above all, to see that he enjoys the wealth of his country. Our deliberate policy is to transfer the economic control of Uganda into the hands of Ugandans, for the first time in our country’s history.”

      We are going to make Uganda great again.

      Idi Amin — His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular; and last king of Scotland.

      • FincaInTheMountains February 19, 2017 at 12:43 pm #

        There is a huge difference between Idi Amin and Trum: Idi Amin had the support of the US Central Intelligence Agency, which helped deliver bombs and other military equipment to Amin’s army and took part in military operations with Amin’s forces in Uganda.

    • beantownbill. February 19, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

      That’s tragically funny.

  96. FincaInTheMountains February 19, 2017 at 1:14 pm #

    One Russian Impressions of Sunday Political Reviews on American television

    1. On all channels and newspaper editorial offices panic settled – Trump declared press enemies of the people. The American people.

    2. All the heads of special intelligence services, appointed by Hillary in the days of Obama, with a wry smile on the faces skewed with horror explain that leak of intelligence information does not necessarily funnels through intelligence, and may well leak through the White House where they regularly sent intelligence. Allegedly!

    3. In Europe (Munich) panic – Trump can dissolve NATO and does not intend to punish Russia for help himself-beloved that came in the form of hacking of the DNC server.

    4. The whole of Europe is within reach of Russian sea-based missiles Granite (SSC-8), placed on the land-base launchers, and this means that all strategic missiles may be retargeted to the United States.

    5. Putin strongly hints that if Ukraine does not begin to comply with the Minsk-2, he will recognize the Donetsk People’s Republic, which in this case will take special operations on the territory of the rest of Ukraine.

    6. Trump travels around the country, to take command of the National Guard to fight the ISIS militants that Hillary Clinton hastily imports into the country, taking advantage of the abolition of the Trump’s Executive Order by a corrupted judge.

  97. janet February 19, 2017 at 1:41 pm #

    “I do not think that the word democracy ever mentioned in US Constitution.” –finca

    finca, you are right that the word “democracy” does not appear, but words have different meanings and those meanings are vague even today.

    The Constitution setup a very specific type of government (a federal presidential republic with a bicameral legislature) that today is considered “a liberal democracy” as are other types of government, e.g., non-presidential republics, republics with purely symbolic presidents, constitutional monarchies, etc.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 19, 2017 at 1:56 pm #

      So, is lynching by a bunch of Klan members of a single negro is a democracy? Majority is obviously for the lynching, just a single black guy against.

      US is a Constitutional Republic, not a “Liberal Democracy”.

      • janet February 19, 2017 at 2:48 pm #

        “So, is lynching by a bunch of Klan members of a single negro is a democracy?”

        Democratic vote is legal, lynching is not legal. KKK members were not voting to elect the Negro, they were killing him. Be careful to distinguish between a legal act and a criminal act.

        • thwack February 19, 2017 at 3:00 pm #

          But if enough people vote to make a criminal act legal; it is no longer a criminal act because the act has been made legal by a democratic vote;

          or am I missing something here?

          White people VOTED to make Marijuana LEGAL even though tens of thousand of negroes got criminal records and are rotting in jail over possession of it.

          Mr. Thwack,

          *this is a court of law, not a court of justice*

          don’t get it twisted.

        • elysianfield February 19, 2017 at 7:30 pm #

          Janet,
          In my youth, I participated in a lynching. True story.

  98. Cold N. Holefield February 19, 2017 at 2:56 pm #

    beantownbill said: That’s tragically funny.

    Indeed it is, btb.

    Get ready for it. This is coming soon, or something akin to it.

    A Preview of Donald Trump’s Next Presser.

    Make Your Ass Great Again.

  99. volodya February 19, 2017 at 3:00 pm #

    You bet Elysian, they blew JFK’s brains all over Jackie and the car and the road in full public view in a city square. Then they arrested the purported shooter, Oswald, and just to make sure everyone got the message, shot Oswald in a fucking police station no less, in front of rolling TV cameras.

    And then just to make really, really sure everyone got the message, made sure that Oswald’s killer, Jack Ruby, died in jail.

    And then, to really make sure, ran a mess of a whitewash commission of inquiry, the Warren Commission.

    The message you may ask? Just who gets to run the country, that’s the message. Not, for sure, some Irish Catholic son of a bootlegger who, when told what to do – get that sweaty Latin lover Castro out of Cuba – didn’t. And then when the Soviets planted missiles in Cuba, buckled by making a deal over said missiles when he ought to have started a shootin’ war.

    Well,it was hard to misread the message but RFK misread it. Bobbie couldn’t have mistook what was being said: Bobbie, you get to boink whoever you want, raise whatever hell you want in your legendary revels, but just make sure that you stick to making a quiet lawyerly living dealing with wills and estates, there’s a good fellow. But no, Bobbie ran for president. And he got shot too.

    So now here’s Trump. Maybe in the intervening decades the Deep State lost its appetite for firing high velocity projectiles at misbehaving American politicians. Or maybe not, we’ll see. In any case, there’s other ways of overthrowing a duly elected President and we’re watching them play out.

    History being made Elysian, going to shit just like the Romans did, who couldn’t do transfers of power either.

    So who gets power next? I dunno, maybe a reliable apparatchik like Pence. Everyone heaves a sigh of relief at least in the Manhattan-Washington Axis.

    But we’ll see what trouble bubbles up over the coup in fly-over country.

  100. volodya February 19, 2017 at 3:15 pm #

    InAlaska, you’re expecting that people exercise rationality and common sense and self control. I wouldn’t put too much money on it because history is full to bursting with the opposite.

    Was intervening in Vietnam rational? Was it reasonable? For one thing, the Vietnamese had just sent the French army packing. Yeah, I know, they’re gang of cheese-eating surrender monkeys. Yet if the toweringly brilliant U.S. foreign policy and military apparatus had properly analysed what had happened, the U.S. wouldn’t have waded in.

    Was invading Afghanistan smart? The barefoot, donkey-riding Afghan farmer handed the Soviets their asses. The Soviets were never noted for their squeamishness about inflicting collateral damage. Killed a million Afghans and still lost. Yet the U.S. in its great wisdom didn’t learn the lesson.

    And then Iraq and the Libya. You get my drift. Count rather on the maximally stupid course of action and you’ll rarely be disappointed.

    • FincaInTheMountains February 19, 2017 at 3:47 pm #

      The barefoot, donkey-riding Afghan farmer handed the Soviets their asses. The Soviets were never noted for their squeamishness about inflicting collateral damage. Killed a million Afghans and still lost.

      Out of whose unwashed ass did you get these numbers? We are not Americans, we never carpet-bombed the wedding parties and funeral procession, we fought Afghans – Dushmans (Duhi – Ghosts) face to face like warriors.

      We never lost in Afghanistan, Spotted Judas Gorbi betrayed his Army.

      • janet February 19, 2017 at 4:22 pm #

        In Simple English especially for you, finca

        About 15,000 Soviet soldiers were killed, and about 35,000 were wounded. About one million Afghan civilians were killed. The anti-government forces had support from many countries, mainly the United States and Pakistan. The war started when the Soviet Union sent its 40th Army to fight in Afghanistan.

        Soviet war in Afghanistan – Simple English Wikipedia, the free …
        simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

  101. volodya February 19, 2017 at 3:21 pm #

    Yeah Elysian, that’s how pronounce it, kooooo…

    And they’ll find some way to make it legal and, if they can’t, they’ll use necessity as the justification.

  102. janet February 19, 2017 at 4:41 pm #

    FLYOVER COUNTRY LEADS IN GREEN TRANSITION

    Electric utility in Kansas leads push to get electric cars on roads. A big thank you to President Obama for pushing renewable energy.

    A charging-infrastructure program launched two years ago by Kansas City Power & Light is now starting to show results. In early 2015 the utility announced plans to install more than 1,000 charging sites for electric cars in its service area, which straddles the Kansas-Missouri border.

    About 850 of those sites are now operational. Kansas City Power & Light believes the charging network could ultimately lower customer bills by making better use of generating capacity.

    The company claims its grid is underutilized 80 percent of the time. The network includes mostly 240-volt AC Level 2 stations, with a handful of DC fast charging stations. All are free to use to recharge electric cars.

    A major increase in electricity use by electric cars would drive down per-unit costs, in turn lowering everyone’s customer bills. Win-win-win, baby.

    • thwack February 19, 2017 at 5:14 pm #

      No,

      fail, fail, fail baby.

      “Failure IS an option. If you aren’t failing, you aren’t innovating enough. We’re gonna fail so bad you’re gonna say: “Im tired of failing so much” — Donald J. Trump

  103. janet February 19, 2017 at 5:06 pm #

    “Zionism is simply a desire that many, but not all Jews have to re-establish a society in their own historic land” –beantownbill

    That sounds a lot like the nationalist sentiment motivating the MAGA crowd who say they want to re-establish “greatness” in America, an idea that JHK shoots down regularly. There is no going back to 1962.

    I agree with you that Jews have excelled because of their hard work, their intelligence, and their humanism, not because they have some desire to rule the world. Though I believe the world would be a better place if Jews were running it. Unfortunately Jews are a such a small minority there just aren’t enough Jews to go around.

    • elysianfield February 19, 2017 at 7:39 pm #

      ” Though I believe the world would be a better place if Jews were running it.”

      Janet,
      How do you say “Are you out of your fucking mind” in Palestinian Arabic?

  104. pequiste February 19, 2017 at 5:16 pm #

    Beantown sez:

    “You have to be absolutely bonkers and paranoid to think that the moon landing was faked.”

    Let Till Lindemann and Ramstein (wonderfully) suggest otherwise:

    youtube.com/watch?v=Rr8ljRgcJNM

    Regarding the “takeover” of Clusterfuck Nation by “…nutcakes and anti-semites….” The CFN is really just a reflection of a civilization on the edge and ready for the finale. The commentariat here is not mad but instead very angry while our friends, the lumpenproles, are unable to articulate anything other than grunts and groans as football season is over and the tax deadline approaches.

    On a brighter note; some really great Yzlamik over-exuberance in Dar al-Islam: Iraq and Pakistan experiencing some brotherly love with several hundreds killed and wounded in suicide bombings, including a Sufi Muslim UNESCO World Heritage site.

  105. Titchfield February 19, 2017 at 8:58 pm #

    Holefield.

    “A real crisis will soon emerge that requires The Military to step in and take charge.”

    Next month?  Next year?  Stop waffling and give us a date.

    “Instead it will be The Military and The People will beg for it.” The military and the people will what?

    Sorry, my mistake: The military will do their thing and the people will be begging that it be done. THAT’S what you mean.

    A comma before “and.”  That way the poor reader will know you intend two separate clauses.

    And what’s with all the capitals?  Your affecting this eighteenth-and-nineteenth century literary habit is an invitation to the reader to compare the stuff you write with what’s been written by the eighteenth-and-nineteenth century greats: Hume, Macaulay, Ruskin–those guys and their contemporaries. Are you sure that’s a comparison you want the reader to make?

    Notice that I wrote “your affecting,” rather than “you affecting.”  When
    a present participle is preceded by a pronoun, the pronoun goes in the possessive  case.  I’m telling you this because I know you don’t know it.

    Look on the bright side Holefield: I’m teaching you standard English and I’m not charging you a cent. ( No comma before “and” in the preceding sentence because the subject is immediately repeated.)

  106. BackRowHeckler February 19, 2017 at 9:58 pm #

    “Trump is like the white Idi Amin” — Thwack

    Does Trump eat people?

    brh

    • thwack February 19, 2017 at 11:10 pm #

      He’s probably ate his fair share of pussy; but then what would a Bitchfaceheckler know about that?

    • malthuss February 19, 2017 at 11:25 pm #

      As judged by Pizza gate and Abramovic –the pols and royal family are
      eating babies.

      duckduck go—Skorpions Bnad played at human sacrifice w Royal family.
      and
      900 corpses in nunnery in Ireland.

  107. Dumbedup February 19, 2017 at 10:34 pm #

    I think he is at war with the Deep State but he is spending whatever credibility he has (which is not much) by insulting the wrong people and on foolishness like election fraud. He tells outright lies and he projects his dishonesty on the media accusing them of “fake news.”

    As I remember, Captain Queeg started with a version of the truth but walked too far out on the limb with his delusions. Trump can fight his war and talk about it honestly. I think the American people would believe him and support him. That could lead to real reform. But to do that he would have to have someone who would give him wise counsel. The people in the WH have the same temperament as Trump – or perhaps even more extreme. They don’t want public support — they want to play authoritarian believing in their own supremacy. They are another 3 feet out on that limb and it’s getting smaller.

  108. Q. Shtik February 19, 2017 at 10:59 pm #

    All of a sudden in political lingo presser has replaced ‘press conference.’ Why this annoys me I couldn’t begin to explain. Does it have something to do with Twitteresque keystroke count?

    Of course Cold N., always on top of everything, adopted the change instantly and without comment.

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