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It’s getting hard to give a shit about this election, though you might still care about this country. The damage has been done to the two long-reigning political parties and perhaps that’s a good thing. They deserved to be dragged into the gutter and now they can either go through a severe rehab or be replaced by as-yet-unformed coalitions of reality-based interests.

Trump did a greater disservice all-in-all to the faction he supposedly represented. Their grievances about a grift-maximized political economy were genuine, and Trump managed to make them look like a claque of sinister clowns. This cartoon of a rich kid with no internal boundaries was unable to articulate their legitimate complaints. His behavior during the so-called debates verged on psychotic. If Trump loses, I will essay to guess that his followers’ next step will be some kind of violence. For the moment, pathetic as it is, Trump was their last best hope.

I’m more comfortable about Hillary — though I won’t vote for her — because it will be salutary for the ruling establishment to unravel with her in charge of it. That way, the right people will be blamed for the mismanagement of our national affairs. This gang of elites needs to be circulated out of power the hard way, under the burden of their own obvious perfidy, with no one else to point their fingers at. Her election will sharpen awareness of the criminal conduct in our financial practices and the neglect of regulation that marked the eight years of Obama’s appointees at the Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The “tell” in these late stages of the campaign has been the demonization of Russia — a way more idiotic exercise than the McCarthyite Cold War hysteria of the early 1950s, since there is no longer any ideological conflict between us and all the evidence indicates that the current state of bad relations is America’s fault, in particular our sponsorship of the state failure in Ukraine and our avid deployment of NATO forces in war games on Russia’s border. Hillary has had the full force of the foreign affairs establishment behind her in this war-drum-banging effort, yet they have not been able to produce any evidence, for instance, in their claim that Russia is behind the Wikileaks hack of Hillary’s email. They apparently subscribe to the Joseph Goebbels theory of propoganda: if you’re going to lie, make sure it’s a whopper, and then repeat it incessantly.

The media has been on-board with all this. The New York Times especially has acted as the hired amplifier for the establishment lies — such a difference from the same newspaper’s role in the Vietnam War ruckus of yesteryear. Today (Monday) they ran an astounding editorial “explaining” the tactical necessity of Hillary’s dishonesty: “In politics, hypocrisy and doublespeak are tools,” The Times editorial board wrote. Oh, well, that’s reassuring. Welcome to the George Orwell Theme Park of Democracy.

Of course neither Trump nor Hillary show any signs of understanding the real problems afflicting the USA. They don’t recognize the basic energy equation that has made it impossible for industrial economies to keep growing, or the deformities in banking and finance that result from official efforts to overcome these implacable conditions, namely, the piling up of ever-greater debt to “solve” the problem of over-indebtedness.

The beginning of the way out of this quandary will be recognition that the federal government is the greatest obstacle for America making the necessary adjustments to a world that has changed. If Trump got elected, I’m convinced that he would be removed from office by a military coup inside of a year, which would be an epic smash-up of our political machinery per se, comparable to the period 44 BCE in Rome, when the republic crashed. Hillary would bring a more measured discredit to the system with the chance that our institutions might be rehabilitated — with the cherry-on-top being Hillary’s eventual impeachment for lying, a fate that her husband and the late Richard Nixon both wiggled out of one way or another.

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  1. pequiste October 24, 2016 at 9:49 am #

    For a cleared-through-censor Times editorial by Jonathan Rauch to state “In politics, hypocrisy and doublespeak are tools.” is breathtaking.

    There it is in all its nakedness – our system of (near) universal mendacity. White House, DNC and NY Times approved.

    Joe Goebbels, Pravda, and Edward Bernays are beaming with pride.

    • Layne October 24, 2016 at 3:01 pm #

      I think JHK and everyone else should watch “Hillary’s America” by Dinesh D’Souza. Dinesh is articulate and was pretty much spot on with the predictions he made in “Obama’s America” You can see him speak here: youtube.com/watch?v=bHajAWdGTfg

      • seawolf77 October 25, 2016 at 1:28 pm #

        The net worth of the Clintons is not 300 million dollars as this guy states. That is 10 times the number I recall.

        • Q. Shtik October 30, 2016 at 9:58 pm #

          According to Money Nation:

          The Hillary Clinton net worth total of $31.3 million comes from analyzing her Public Financial Disclosure Reports. Bill Clinton has an estimated net worth of $80 million. That gives a combined Bill and Hillary Clinton net worth of $111 million dollars.Jul 26, 2016

  2. seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 9:51 am #

    I think it has been discredited that Goebbels said that. He would not have been a very good propagandists had he said that. I think 1963 would be more like Rome 44 BC. That said, I think the empire is hidden better today. They have better tools to do the hiding. I think it works better that way.

    • K-Dog October 24, 2016 at 10:01 am #

      He did not have to say it.

      The book ‘Propaganda’ by Eddie Bernays was on Gobbels’es office bookshelf. The book stresses the value of the repetition of lies and if you don’t believe me I will repeat this comment!

      • Lawfish October 24, 2016 at 10:03 am #

        Agreed. Goebbels never said that. It was just one of his strategies. JHK didn’t even say he said it, only that it was part of his theory of propaganda.

    • Vlad the Impaler October 24, 2016 at 5:56 pm #

      Actually, the expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so “colossal” that no one would believe that someone “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.” Goebbles was just repeating what the boss said.

  3. K-Dog October 24, 2016 at 9:56 am #

    Yes, Trump would have ruined the country one way and Hillary will surly ruin it in another. The thermodynamic cluelessness of one does not eclipse the thermodynamic cluelessness of the other. They are both trapped in Michael Jackson bubbles of unreality resulting from there excess affluence, just slightly different kinds of bubbles of fantasy.

    Of course neither Trump nor Hillary show any signs of understanding the real problems afflicting the USA. They don’t recognize the basic energy equation that has made it impossible for industrial economies to keep growing, or the deformities in banking and finance that result from official efforts to overcome these implacable conditions, namely, the piling up of ever-greater debt to debt to “solve” the problem of over-indebtedness.

    And this makes voting for either foolish.

    The only thing certain in this election is that both candidates will seek to feed the growing gap between rich and poor in order to keep lipstick on this pig rather than make any necessary structural changes that would guarantee the future of the nation.

    • K-Dog October 24, 2016 at 10:02 am #

      their excess affluence

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 1:20 pm #

      Hillary’s a disaster. The Middle East is a disaster. Obamacare…disaster. Benghazi another disaster. The economy is a total disaster. The inner cities…complete disaster. Hillary’s judgment…utter disaster. Immigration…what a disaster.
      Disaster Donald is his name
      Verbal diarrhea is his game
      The vomitous torrent that he spews
      is nothing compared to the way he chews
      Over and over and over the racist cud
      Just like his business… a total dud
      Disaster Donald is his name
      Forgotten in a month…Oh what a shame

    • toktomi October 29, 2016 at 2:45 am #

      Hey, K.

      It has been awhile since I’ve been around these parts – same old droids hereabouts week after week with nothing new to look at.

      It appears that you’ve donned a new guise or maybe I’ve never noticed before. I like it.

      Ya, it’s all about energy. It has always been about energy. The Universe is about energy.

      Growth-based economy ran out of growth gas – steady state death. It’s just what Jay Hanson in 1999 and then Matt Savinar a bit later compiled from existing data and so eloquently articulated.

      She is surely pumping mud, Clancy. And I reckon that “they” are about to shut ‘er down, but perhaps, not before they follow up the idiot and the gay Kenyan with the coronation of an unelected mutant. 11/9 last year was a Monday – how perfect would that have been for a final curtain if one favors Mondays for going away parties. Perhaps, we’ll have to settle for a Wednesday, 11/9 – lots of new chatter about post-election “trouble”.

      Sing it, Country Joe!

      more of my wild ass opinions – your mileage may vary,

      ~toktomi~

  4. Walter B October 24, 2016 at 9:58 am #

    Well spoken once again James, thank you. The demonization of Russia is proceeding a lot faster than people may realize and I for one cannot see how it can in any way shape or form be a good thing, or result in anything but bad. This last Saturday we headed up to West Point for my 40th Reunion. The bad weather killed the Cadet Review and therefore our class photograph so it was, in the end, a sad mess of a day in many ways not to mention the big loss at the hands of North Texas. The worst part however came during a broadcast on the Big Screen of a history officer recounting “this Day in History” during which the name of the country of Russia was spoken. The entire Corps of Cadets as well as the sparse crowd booed, hissed and called out unpleasantries just at the mention of Russia, indicating to me at least, that demonization of the Russians by those most likely to soon be fighting Her has already been ingrained in their psyches. These kinds of pre-war puff ups are usually ramped up prior to an actual assault and it was more than a bit disquieting to see. Apparently our Military Industrial Complex has grown tired of the paltry profits raked in from small wars against Stone Age counterparts and is bristling for maximum profits from big time expenditures of really expensive ordinance. God help us all, for destruction by fire has never seemed as plausible as it appears to be today. .

    • newworld October 24, 2016 at 10:08 am #

      If you ask me if the establishment was producing propaganda they might want to skip the crowd shots of the corps of cadets.

      Even as late as the early Obama years the cadets looked serious, but now its an American college clown show. YMMV would love to read your opinion on that matter.

      I used to watch the Army – Navy game every year just to see young adults becoming young adults in action versus the drunks and sluts at other college games, now not so much.

      Thank god a good Lockheed (ticker symbol LMT) war these days is push button versus bayonet charge.

      • Walter B October 24, 2016 at 10:18 am #

        Did they actually televise THAT part? I have no clue being there under the Hoffman Press Box what was broadcast over the tube. I understand that as time goes by we old dinosaurs become irrelevant and our opinions are no longer wanted but the Corps has really gone to hell, IMHO. The spectacle of the Superintendent riding atop a special Hardley Davidson to lead the Corp onto the field was, once again IMHO, depressing, degrading and a clear indicator that the New Owners of America have almost no class whatsoever and all of the puff and braggadocio of a drunken guttersnipe. The horror, the horror….

        • newworld October 24, 2016 at 10:36 am #

          Always a certain amount of goofiness with young adults but what I saw was basically college with camo gameday.

          What gets me since I am a former Marine was up till the GWOT I had a low opinion of the Army. But then after many, many hours of watching them in all those reality type combat shows the Army and its officer corps really impressed me. The Marines IMO have slipped horribly, in comparison now its an adjunct lobbying arm of Lockheed and doomed to irrelevance.

          If it becomes a shooting war with the Ruskies I bet a dollar they let the combat arms have their way and instead strike all the rear echelon units of the Army and Air Force. Honestly of all the women who will staff them I think I could go to the mall and find their replacements by lottery.

          • Walter B October 24, 2016 at 1:50 pm #

            ..but what I saw was basically college with camo gameday

            Do you have any idea what pain and disgust your (and mine as well) honest and accurate observation has on those of us that were once trained so dramatically and differently there so long ago? I have been watching this decay for decades now and on the few occasions that I return I can only sit there quietly in the stands and do my best to keep from crying. It really hurts for it was that once grand institution that instilled in me the strength to feel as I did back then and as I still do today. I am almost unfit for duty in this Not So Brave New World.

        • SpeedyBB October 25, 2016 at 6:15 am #

          For a caustic and sobering appraisal of West Point as an educational institution, and its mores, read Gore Vidal (whose father was in charge of the Point at one point). Spoiler: he is not much of a fan of the Corps.

          That was then and this is now. I imagine that with the infusion of Xtian end-days fanaticism and the molding of entitled chrome-plated youth into groomed toy soldiers it is worse.

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 10:09 am #

      Remember JFK comparing us to the Russians: We all breathe the same air, we all inhabit this small planet, we all cherish our children’s future, and we are all mortal. He might as well have put a gun to his head right then and there, on the podium. Imagine Caesar comparing Romans to the Gauls or the Carthaginians. The really funny thing is we have never fought the Russians. So where does this crap come from?

      • SunnyJohn45 October 24, 2016 at 11:51 am #

        The US participated in the Allied intervention in Russia after the end of World War I. The Polar Bear Expedition (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_Bear_Expedition) actually did fight the Red army. This intervention helped form the ugly relationship the US has had with Russia since then. There were also probably Russian pilots in the Korean and Vietnam wars who were engaged by the US.

        • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 1:24 pm #

          I forgot about that. The White Russians right?

        • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 2:54 pm #

          The Countries have literally switched identities since then: now We are the Communists ruled by Jews and They are the White Christians.

      • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 2:19 pm #

        Dumb*ss. Wrong and wrong (as always) The Carthaginians were in fact, more civilized, and were long gone by the time of Caesar. Perhaps you were thinking of Cato the elder, or more likely, you were not thinking at all…

        Try to know of what you speak. Try at least.

        • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 2:34 pm #

          Erudite as ever genius.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 2:56 pm #

          Freud’s boyhood hero was Hannibal and he felt it was a great tragedy that the Semites lost and Europe remained White and Roman. His work was to begin the remedy to that – to make us lose confidence as he put it.

          • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 3:28 pm #

            Oh boy… here we go. I’m not sure how “white” these Mediterranean people would be by your standards. There was a significant amount of “mixing” in that cauldron (the Med).

            You would benefit greatly from a cheek swab and $200 check made payable to any DNA lab.

          • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 11:46 pm #

            What color is the sky in your world Maude?

        • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 11:48 pm #

          Lay off the buggers genius. You’re getting light in the head.

    • Ishabaka October 25, 2016 at 9:45 am #

      Good point. Hard to justify billion $ – a – pop F-35 jets when your foe consists of goat herders with no aircraft, and almost no anti-aircraft weapons.

      • seawolf77 October 25, 2016 at 10:11 am #

        It’s hard to justify any aircraft after the F-14, F-15 and F-16 and the B-52. You can scrap every plane that came afterwards as utterly useless… a disaster. B1 junk. B2 incredibly expensive junk. F-22 took 20 years to be combat ready and even today not flown because loss of a single aircraft is too expensive. F-35 absolutely terrible idea to make 3 planes out of 1. Just stupid. A disaster. Osperey is garbage. F-117 one of the ugliest planes ever. SR-71 a General’s hopped up 57 Chevy. Satellites can do what U-2 does.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 25, 2016 at 3:12 pm #

          Military hardware isn’t something I follow closely, although military boondoggles are another matter. The more I hear about the F-35, the more it sounds like a gold-plated can of dogshit on wings — like one of those ‘art projects’ that JHK has such fun eviscerating. I get the distinct impression this “multi-role” fighter does nothing that can’t be done better and cheaper by existing planes, so the only reason for its existence is as a giant pork trough for generals, contractors and members of Congress.

        • messianicdruid October 26, 2016 at 12:20 pm #

          The B2s were used as a electrical propulsion platform for testing reverse engineered stuff. Helped to have complete conventional engines system on standby.

  5. newworld October 24, 2016 at 10:01 am #

    Trump voter here, the third paragraph is very acceptable to me, if the Obama bubble is to burst in either massive deflation or an outburst of inflation it’s best if Hilldawg the Zombie is the face of it.

    The paragraph of military lead civil war, maybe not so well thought out, maybe you could have wrote MIC, that would be a bit more believable, ymmv.

    I think now in the era of open looting by the left and its sponsors don’t count on the conservatives to automatically bestow legitimacy upon you progressives. So could there be violence, now I would say less than 5% chance of post electoral spasmodic violence from the Right but way higher if a D party client group initiates such as BLM and affiliates or ISIS makes a comeback after election season vacation.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 2:58 pm #

      Yes, classic Left speak, fantasizing about violence from the Right even though there is a complete certainty of violence from the Left since it has already begun.

      Let Trump have his chance – it’s our last.

  6. patrickd October 24, 2016 at 10:07 am #

    I consider the US government to be the world’s #1 terrorist organization. It’s infuriating to read daily accounts of USAF bombings of civilian infrastructure, with families inside. This evil USA “government” needs to stop existing. The US people simply will not do it, so it looks like that DC nuke in The World Made By Hand is very possible. But Russia is wise – she will not do that unless the US does it first. Therefore the fall of the empire will take time. In the meantime, the USAF will continue to murder civilians all over the world. The pilots I’m sure are being fed a bunch of BS lies to keep them doing their jobs. It’s sad, very sad.This USAF veteran WILL NOT VOTE in the farcical sham election to install the next US Terrorist-in-Chief. F*ck that.

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 10:15 am #

      Amen brother. Like Dick Gregory said this bitch was bad right from the start. Killing the Indians and stealing their land. Enslaving the blacks and stealing their productivity. It’s in our DNA.

      • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 10:38 am #

        In recent decades we British North Americans have developed a well-founded sense of shame about the crimes our nations were founded on, to the extent that good old-fashioned racism ceased for a while to be respectable. Here in Canada, we’ve gone so far as to admit that what we attempted to do to First Nations did not fall short of genocide. Long-buried stories of our victims are beginning to be told. This is how healing happens.

        I’m afraid things are going the other way in the U.S. The Trump candidacy and the alt-right have emboldened bigots to proclaim their shamefulness for all to hear. The truly odious ones double down on the founding crimes and proclaim them as virtues. The days are darkening.

        • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 10:42 am #

          I’m from Louisiana and that is exactly what the Deep South did. They embraced their slave owning roots, and celebrate their slave owning great great grand parents. Is that enough greats? Oh well. You get my drift. It is the dichotomy of shame; the either/or. Tragically most times men pick the wrong one.

        • lsjogren October 24, 2016 at 11:02 am #

          Well, you have certainly mastered the simple-minded view of history of the half-witted left with great proficiency.

          • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 11:08 am #

            H.L. Mencken you’re not. I’d say D.J. Trump is more your speed.

          • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 2:24 pm #

            Sea-dolt is a special needs type… very special (window licking variety).

          • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 3:08 pm #

            He also lick door knobs and elevator buttons like Dan Savage did when he was physically sick. He’s always sick in the head just like Dolt.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 11:14 pm #

            Oh Daniel, you scamp. Whatever are we going to do with you? (Besides listen to your awesome podcast.)

            Really, it’s hard not to love a man who knows so well how to get under the skin of fundamentalist gay-haters and other authoritarian types. Planting the idea of infection bypasses their defences and goes directly to the authoritarian id. Because as Jonathan Haidt has noted, right-wing authoritarians get to be that way due to an overweening preoccupation with purity and disgust. Seems to have worked on Janos just fine, that’s for sure.

            Oh, hi, Janos, didn’t see you there. Say, were you aware that the FDA allows up to 15% mold filaments in cranberry sauce, and an average of 30 insect fragments in 3.5 ounces of peanut butter? You learn something new every day. Enjoy your dinner!

          • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2016 at 1:25 am #

            So I’m authoritarian personality because I’m against people with colds licking door knobs to get people sick? Wow, you really have low standards and twisted values. Germs are just an “idea”, right? Just like genes? Millions died because of Lysenko’s Marxist fantasies and contempt for knowledge. You’re in his camp, obviously.

            I also wash my hands after using a public restroom. What does that say about me, eh sport? Of course, Marxist Supermen like you don’t. There are many such Marxist Supermen…..

          • Elrond Hubbard October 25, 2016 at 9:42 am #

            I said nothing about germs. My point was about getting under your skin. Sputter, little man, sputter.

          • Frankiti October 25, 2016 at 10:50 am #

            BTW,

            Janos/Vlad (in all forms) is a caricature. In the vein of Phil Hendrie (a fellow Canadian). Dressing up the absurd and vile in eloquence so as to elicit a response. Most of Phil’s audience were in on the gag, yet call-in they did.
            Sometimes it’s fun to be in on the joke.

        • shotho October 24, 2016 at 4:27 pm #

          You can embace whatever shame you please in Canada. I also am from Louisiana and all my ancestors from centuries ago. I have no intention of embracing any shame for what they might have done. I wasn’t there. I have enough shame for what I’ve done in my life.
          By the way, do the present “native” Americans of Canada have any shame for beating up on each other in beastly ways before your European ancestors beat up on them?

          • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 11:35 pm #

            I dunno, but perhaps. It depends on whether there are consequences we still have to deal with here and now.

            I think the generation of people, alive today, who still bear the living and breathing consequences of having been taken from their families and sent to residential schools have more claim on my conscience than anyone who lived and died before contact.

            If you’re asking whether First Nations people feel any shame about this or that, ask them, not me.

        • Vlad the Impaler October 24, 2016 at 6:21 pm #

          Sorry Elrond, there’s not going to be any healing. Once any group takes on the mantle of the victim there’s no going back. What ever is done for them will never be enough. New found grievances will be found and brought forward. Women, Blacks, Jews, Gays/LGBT. Why should there ever be an end to victim-hood when it provides so much benefit and power to the “victims”

          • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 9:10 pm #

            Janos, Vlad the Impaler, Vlad Krandz.. what difference does Asokabsalomcarol make?

          • Elrond Hubbard October 25, 2016 at 12:04 am #

            Vlad: There are healthy ways to address grievances and unhealthy ways. Telling the truth about your past and accepting responsibility is the healthy way. And by healing I mean we’re no longer two weak peoples living at each other’s throats — we’re one stronger one. “United we stand, divided we fall”, have you heard of that?

      • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

        Ha, very funny. Every nation does such things. There would have been no America or Canada without the conquest of the Indians. What Elrond calls “healing” is just chopping away at our roots and laying the foundation for White genocide on this continent.

        Extreme? How? For generations Blacks have been taught how horrible Whites are and so of course, they continue to hate us and kill us. Now Elrond wants the Indians to do the same. British North Americans? As if French and the Spanish didn’t. As if the Indians didn’t do it to each other.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 25, 2016 at 12:07 am #

          Janos: “Every nation does such things.”

          Every kid probably picks their nose, too.

          Janos: “There would have been no America or Canada without the conquest of the Indians.”

          And if one random sperm had zigged instead of zagged, your parents would have named you Frieda and your ballet career would have been a great disappointment. What of it? Real questions of right and wrong deal with what actually happened, not imaginary worlds.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2016 at 1:17 am #

            Thank you for admitting you’re wrong. Whites haven’t done anything anyone else hasn’t done. Stop applying super human standards of morality to us and only us. It’s using good as a weapon of evil. Utterly demonic.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 25, 2016 at 10:42 am #

            But just above you said I have “really low standards”. Which is it? Help, I’m confused!

            But being serious, it says a lot about you that you consider not committing genocide to be an insuperable moral hurdle for anyone. As for your contention that I apply standards to “us and only us”, that’s a symptom of your mental illness. You hear what you want to hear.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2016 at 6:59 pm #

            In other words, you don’t wash your hands after using public restrooms because germs don’t exist. Anyone who thinks they do has mental problems.

            Name one time when you have condemned actions by Non-Whites. I’ve never seen you do it. You are dedicated to the destruction of the White Race, even as Tom Hayden was. You will see him in hell.

    • zekesdad October 24, 2016 at 11:19 am #

      I think you’ve got it backwards. It’s Russia that’s bombing hospitals and civilian residential areas of Aleppo and elsewhere. You have heard of Aleppo, haven’t you? Tell us where the USAF is murdering civilians “all over the world”. For what purpose? Do you consider ISIS leaders hiding behind non-combatants to be “civilians”?

      • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 11:32 am #

        As for me, I consider civilians to be civilians. I consider a bombing policy that kills 90 civilians in the hope of killing an ISIS fighter or two to be morally bankrupt. And I’m hardly alone.

        • zekesdad October 24, 2016 at 11:44 am #

          What about deliberately targeting hospitals in Aleppo? You actually think that the USAF and the Russians are somehow morally equivalent? When did we kill 90 civilians, and where? I don’t doubt that civilians have been killed in the crossfire, but this is a war. So what is your solution? How do we take out ISIS fighters and leaders who deliberately hide among civilians? Has if even occurred to you that ISIS probably executes 90 civilians a week in areas that they control?

          • patrickd October 25, 2016 at 6:11 pm #

            You’re out of tough. Al Quada and ISIS and the Taliban were all created by the US and are used to decimate populations and overthrow governments. HRC admitted the US created ISIS. All bombings by the US are of civilian infrastructure. Stop reading American propaganda, aka MSM. Go to PressTV, rt.com, Sputnik, Democracy Now, Orlov, The Duran… read what’s going on. The USA is a terrorist, rogue nation. ISIS is it’s troops on the ground. Everything the US gov says is a lie. Stop being duped.

          • patrickd October 25, 2016 at 6:13 pm #

            out of touch, not out of tough.

          • miasmo October 25, 2016 at 9:09 pm #

            Zekesdad’s consent was apparently not all that hard to manufacture.

        • Walter B October 24, 2016 at 1:43 pm #

          People may or may not be aware that civilian casualties outnumbered military casualties in World War II and a quick check of Wikipedia confirms this. I would also postulate that the Vietnam War and the GWOT (no not the Government War on Trump, but the Global War on Terror) would have the same statistics. A former classmate of mine, Stanley McChrystal was quickly retired when he had the stones to remind the Murderer in Chief that for every civilian casualty we inflicted, we created 10 new insurgents, so there is a very good argument that the wanton murder of civilians is not a sound military strategy. Of course the murdering politicians could care less since non of them nor their spawn serve any more anyway, but it is very, very disconcerting when you hear (as I often do) so many men and women on the streets declare that they don’t give a hot damn how many foreign civilians have to be wiped out in order to keep the prices of gasoline (and opiates for that matter) affordable.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 3:01 pm #

            Walter B: “Stanley McChrystal was quickly retired when he had the stones to remind the Murderer in Chief that for every civilian casualty we inflicted, we created 10 new insurgents, so there is a very good argument that the wanton murder of civilians is not a sound military strategy.”

            Quite so regarding wanton murder of civilians. However, General McChrystal was actually relieved of his command because of open insubordination toward the commander-in-chief by those under his command documented by Michael Hastings in Rolling Stone. (“The article reported remarks by McChrystal’s staff that were overtly critical and contemptuous of White House staff and other civilian officials.” — Wikipedia)

            The Hastings article also mentions that McChrystal leaked a report recommending an additional 40,000 troops were needed to avoid “mission failure” as a way to force the White House’s hand. That’s not the same thing as calling out the policy of wanton murder of civilians, although for all I know, could McChrystal have done that as well?

          • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 3:16 pm #

            As Mumford said, the mass bombing of civilian populations during WW2 was a reversion to “total war” as practiced long ago by the Assyrians in the Middle East among others.

            The Allies began it and were the worst. Likewise, the South fought as Gentleman and the North did not.

            You’ve been on the wrong side all your life – you were born on the wrong side. There’s no reason to end on the wrong side though.

          • Walter B October 24, 2016 at 3:55 pm #

            General McChrystal was actually relieved of his command because of open insubordination toward the commander-in-chief…

            Yes EH you are probably correct and even more reason for my admiration to be showered upon the general! I wish I was so fortunate to have been in a position to defy that bag of dirt that weaseled his way into power. An act of disobedience to such an interloper is exactly what we were trained to do even if it was to cost us everything. Stan was fortunate to be able to keep the pension and he shall always have my greatest respect and admiration for doing so.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 11:43 pm #

            Walter B: I never got the impression that military personnel anywhere had discretion to be insubordinate, or to disobey lawful orders.

            What’s the legal definition of being a ‘bag of dirt’, a ‘weasel’, or an ‘interloper’ that would justify not accepting the authority of the commander-in-chief?

          • Walter B October 25, 2016 at 9:18 am #

            In the old days, those who instructed us realized that the possibilities for infiltration by the enemy was a possibility that could have cataclysmic consequences if the mindless following of every order issued was carried out without thought. We were instructed that it was our duty to consider the validity, the legality and the morality of what we were ordered to do and to oppose any violations of our creed (like the Constitution) at the cost of our reputations, our career, or our lives. Americans today are far too brainwashed or outright stupid to consider that in a land where everything is for sale and even those who believe in the destruction of America from within can not only run for office, but should they be able to somehow get “elected” those who blindly follow every damn order they are given will do the dirty work for them. A proper description would take far more words and explanation than I can put down here so if you cannot grasp the concept from this condensed version further discussion is pointless.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 25, 2016 at 9:49 am #

            Now I grasp the concept perfectly well: You consider President Obama an enemy infiltrator, when in fact he’s an American citizen born and raised who followed the same path to power as many a president before him. It looks like you suffer from the same disease of irrational fear and hatred as many others, so I agree, further discussion clearly is pointless.

          • Walter B October 25, 2016 at 10:18 am #

            You are special EH. You can carry on both sides of a conversation all by yourself. Remember what they used to say about a-s-s-u-m-e? Obama’s credentials have always been questionable and that in itself should be cause for concern if not a good enough reason to avoid voting for him in the first place. If you had as many questions in the clear title to your automobile, you would have one heck of a time getting it registered wouldn’t you? No my problem with him is much deeper than that. Any person holding any office of any kind that openly brags about murdering Bib Laden (without any evidence to boot) and gleefully orders the drone striking of civilian gatherings around the world (in countries we are not even at war with) is a murdering dog and I publically denounce not only him but all of his actions. I get the impression sir that you did not serve this nation in the military, because by your words and your apparent acceptance of BO’s actions, it appears that you make no distinction between war and murder. If I am incorrect I apologize, but it is certainly how those who support this murdering clown come across. I cannot wait under the murderess is coronated. It will grow far more evil indeed.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 25, 2016 at 3:32 pm #

            Walter B: I’m pleasantly surprised to find us in agreement about the extrajudicial execution of bin Laden without trial, and other matters, and I apologize for assuming you were motivated by simple rejectionism of the first African-American president.

            No, I have never served in uniform (unless you count the Boy Scouts), but I do consider myself a morally serious person who understands why principled behaviour must be demanded of governments. The treatment meted out to our enemies (torture, indefinite detention without trial, etc.) will soon enough be meted out at home as well if we don’t hold those in power to account. Unfortunately the erosion continues.

            The misuse of the U.S. military in the past couple of decades is especially grievous. It’s very bad faith to take people who have signed up to defend their country and send them off to die, or be physically or psychically maimed, in incredibly damaging and interminable wars to no ultimate purpose. Doing so also erodes military confidence in civilian control, which leads to very dark places indeed.

          • Walter B October 26, 2016 at 8:52 pm #

            Wow EH, détente and even agreement, now that is what I call a win-win, thank you. I think it is retarded to choose the leader of any organization based on the race or their gender and I always have. I would not only vote for Allen West and even help him get elected, I prefer him as a candidate even today and in the future over ever “other” color candidate you can name. And if it’s a female you want, Catherine Austin Fitts is more capable than anyone who ran for the job of president in decades IMHO. It has never been about choosing by group, at least not for me, I have been desperate for a capable individual and I know of many. We have just never been nor will we will be given a choice of decent people because the system is corrupted beyond use. But I suppose once you believe this, as I do, I suppose it doesn’t really matter who you put in at “the top” does it?

          • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2016 at 3:13 pm #

            So if Whites don’t discriminate against Non-Whites, then automatically (by magic), Non-Whites won’t discriminate against us?

            yahoo.com/news/m/f889e55c-8c72-3b53-a669-a184f821be41/ss_video%3A-uc-berkeley-students.html

            You may not have a problem with race, but race has a problem with you.

          • Walter B October 29, 2016 at 6:02 pm #

            OH that’s ok JS those who are out to get us Whiteys, either with or without prodding from evil masters or the government, are welcome to come give it their best shot. I believe in Survival of the Fittest so I welcome all to come and be tested! While I much prefer to live in peace and function within the constraints of an orderly society, I am wired to deal with chaos as well and if that is what they prefer well so be it.

        • shotho October 24, 2016 at 4:32 pm #

          No, you’re not alone. The destructive nature of the human beast is alive and well all over the world, as far as I can see.

      • Exscotticus October 25, 2016 at 9:00 pm #

        So I guess you don’t count the U.S. bombing of the Doctors Without Borders Afghanistan hospital earlier this year? Accidental or not, the U.S. bombed it. Meanwhile, Obama continues to wage a private drone war targeting anyone he wants with no oversight whatsoever. Collateral damage from those strikes have killed hundreds of women and children. Leaked intelligence documents indicate that the success rate of those drone strikes is a mere 10%.

  7. Lawfish October 24, 2016 at 10:08 am #

    The demonization of Russia theme is one I would love to see explored in greater detail in future posts (November 9 can’t come soon enough!). How would Americans react if Russia had a full army stationed in Cuba, Mexico and Canada and was actively destabilizing governments in Central and South America? That’s essentially what we’re doing in Europe and the Middle-East. Russia’s patience with all that has been impressive to say the least.

    • baird October 24, 2016 at 10:46 am #

      It is beyond astounding that the MSM has been completely unquestioning re this demonization of Russia.Grossly distorting and ignoring the history and facts. It seems on the face of it a very dangerous tool for rallying the electorate to allow whatever it is “they” want us to do. Can those pulling the levers possibly be so unaware of the risks, doesn’t compute? And no I’m not a conspiracy type, but whatever the motives those pulling the strings are not stupid. I am more baffled than usual about what’s going on here.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 3:18 pm #

        Trump addressed that the other day: the Media is owned by far too few people and he intends to do something about it. He didn’t mention who they are and that it’s the same group who dominates Banking and Foreign Policy.

        It’s no accident that Jews are against Mr Trump.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 11:51 pm #

          That line about anti-semitism being the socialism of fools is attributed to August Bebel. Whoever it was, they just nailed it. Janos starts out making sense, and then he goes into a froth. Just beautiful.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2016 at 1:12 am #

            It’s the Socialism of Nationalists – the natural structure for humanity at this stage of evolution.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 25, 2016 at 9:56 am #

            One of the many reasons why I’m not a Communist as you repeatedly and falsely accuse: the Communists also believed they knew the “natural” path for humanity to take — namely, for the working class to seize control of the means of production, which would inevitably lead to the withering away of the state. Anything could then be justified with this utopian end in mind. Your example demonstrate that’s not a strictly Communist point of view — it’s a totalitarian one. It serves the fascist lust for power just as well as it ever served the Communists.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2016 at 2:20 pm #

            You are PC. And Political Correctness is the West’s home grown form of Communism. It has elements of Maoism, Trotskyism, and of course a large element of perverted Christianity which you can’t see. Instead of Nationalizing the means of production, you would nationalize the fruits of production – and thus the Elite are protected and you have plausible deniability about being a Communist, perhaps even from yourself.

        • patrickd October 25, 2016 at 6:15 pm #

          First rational statement I ever read from you.

      • Yuri Sowryteski October 24, 2016 at 11:04 pm #

        America’s unsavory record of violent interventions in Syria—obscure to the American people yet well known to Syrians—sowed fertile ground for the violent Islamic Jihadism that now complicates any effective response by our government to address the challenge of ISIS. So long as the American public and policymakers are unaware of this past, further interventions are likely to only compound the crisis. Moreover, our enemies delight in our ignorance.

        ecowatch.com/syria-another-pipeline-war-1882180532.html

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 10:51 am #

      Excellent. But I think a Hot War with Russia is more like the ultimate boogeyman. That would bring down the elite, and thus they will never let it happen. Imagine that. We have to destroy ourselves to extricate ourselves. It’s like national chemo.

  8. dannyboy October 24, 2016 at 10:09 am #

    “It’s getting hard to give a shit about this election”

    Now you’re talkin’

    You got it!

    For myself, I am paying much more attention to other, larger aspects of life.

    I don’t care much for Politics. Or the News, as presented.

    Sunny here. Cat’s content.

    • Vlad the Impaler October 24, 2016 at 6:37 pm #

      “I don’t care much for Politics.”

      Sorry Dannyboy but as Leon Trotsky said “You may not be interested in politics, but politics is certainly interested in you.”

      • dannyboy October 24, 2016 at 7:38 pm #

        Yes, you are correct that Politics is playing me.

        My approach is to put more of my attention to other things that I care about. Grow them. Hopefully the toxic effects of politics will end up a smaller and less significant part of my life.

    • elysianfield October 24, 2016 at 6:58 pm #

      d,
      Do you have a fiddle? Are you playin’ it?

      • dannyboy October 24, 2016 at 7:39 pm #

        i get it!

        fiddle

        and you made a

        …riddle

  9. Tia October 24, 2016 at 10:10 am #

    seawolf
    1963? Were you alive then? I was, no comparison to 44 BC. No I was not alive then. But I was a young 16 year old with friends getting drafted. But we protested and had hope for a better world and “down with the establishment”

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 10:19 am #

      I was 4.

      • goat1001 October 24, 2016 at 10:54 am #

        I was 7. I remember all the “duck and cover” exercises in school (for whatever purpose that could accomplish) and the assassination of JFK. I also remember talk of flying cars and trips to the planets by the year 2000. Nuclear power was the the future with power “too cheap to meter”….

        • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 11:05 am #

          Hilarious when you look back on it. I was supposed to be going on lunar vacations. I remember we actually had to write a paper about what a lunar vacation might be like. No one thought to say it would be like looking at goofy Apollo pictures, because that’s as close as I ever got to a lunar vacation.

        • SteveO October 24, 2016 at 2:14 pm #

          “too cheap to meter”

          Funny how that one worked out. It did make a lot of plutonium for the bomb factories however.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 3:22 pm #

          Once upon a time, there were plans to try and save civilian lives in case of attack. After the JFK assassination coup, all such care was discontinued.

          Believe it or not, some countries continue to care. Switzerland has a vast system of Civil Self Defense: bomb shelters for every one – Every One – of its citizens. And the citizen soldiers are ready to come out and fight if and when the enemy invades.

          Switzerland sans Muslims was what America was intended to be.

  10. sprawlcapital October 24, 2016 at 10:14 am #

    The “tell” in these late stages of the campaign has been the demonization of Russia — a way more idiotic exercise than the McCarthyite Cold War hysteria of the early 1950s, since there is no longer any ideological conflict between us and all the evidence indicates that the current state of bad relations is America’s fault, in particular our sponsorship of the state failure in Ukraine and our avid deployment of NATO forces in war games on Russia’s border.
    ====================================
    It’s commentary like the above that keeps me on here as a reader and Patreon supporter, Great work, JHK!

    On the other hand I do not appreciate reading about the exploits of Cadillac Mandinko nor of the evil fantasy shared recently by Janos of hanging Jewish journalists.

    • zekesdad October 24, 2016 at 11:26 am #

      There is no ideological difference between us? Really? America uses energy as a weapon against our neighbors? We murder journalists, grab land from neighboring countries, and install presidents for life? Who knew?

      • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 11:38 am #

        The U.S. is, or has been in the quite recent past, guilty of invading and occupying foreign countries (the crime of aggression in international law), as well as torture, indefinite detention without trial, bombing of civilians, you know the litany.

        I don’t care if anyone considers those things equivalent to Russian crimes or not. They suffice to establish that the U.S. has zero credibility to criticize anyone else, as long as the architects of the torture policy are still walking around and getting paid.

        • Exscotticus October 25, 2016 at 9:09 pm #

          Bingo. We lost all credibility when we tried to argue that waterboarding was not torture. And by “we” I mean no less an “authority” on torture than Senator John McCain.

      • SunnyJohn45 October 24, 2016 at 12:11 pm #

        Obviously not you: America has killed journalists (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_8,_2003_journalist_deaths_by_U.S._fire), grabbed much of the Southwest from Mexico and installed unsavory characters like the Shah of Iran in addition to supporting rulers-for-life like the Saudi royal family. Maybe we can’t really use energy as a weapon because we’ve been net importers. Sanctions we impose are more effective because they actually cost human lives. Get a clue, or at least take off your blinders and do a little research before you demonstrate your ignorance..

      • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 3:26 pm #

        Michael Hasting’s car was blown into the air with him in it. Many believe foul play. Some think it was a drone.

        There is a permanent regime here as the massive Republican betrayal of Trump shows. All because he is a Nationalist and not a Globalist like the Elite of both “parties”.

  11. malthuss October 24, 2016 at 10:18 am #

    McCarthyite Cold War hysteria of the early 1950s?

    As Stalins henchmen were killing countless millions. That hysteria?

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 10:24 am #

      In the 50’s USA was killing millions of Koreans. In the 60’s and 70’s millions of Vietnamese. Today millions of Iraqis. Was there Cold War hysteria in Russia too? What about today. Is it a Cryogenic War?

      • malthuss October 24, 2016 at 11:13 am #

        Mao killed off 80? million, but who is counting?

        How many Koreans did USA kill? And was that preferable to leaving the place to Kim ilJungs predecessors?

  12. Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 10:24 am #

    In history, everything supposedly happens twice: first as tragedy, then as farce. Since a Trump presidency is self-evidently a farce waiting to happen, that leaves us to decide which of the preceding administrations was the corresponding tragedy. George W. Bush comes to mind, with his disastrous invasions and culminating financial calamity, but Nixon is clearly a strong contender as well.

    In the age of the zombie, we love our gruesome entertainments, but I suppose the spectacle of a Trump presidency is a particularly gruesome one that we’ll end up being spared. Instead of the vulgar fool, the American people will choose the deeply corrupt, influence-peddling technocrat instead. Congratulations, everyone.

    Meanwhile, the oil industry as we know it is credibly predicted to be defunct in the next decade. Enjoy your walk to work, those of you lucky enough to still have jobs. Cheers!

  13. venuspluto67 October 24, 2016 at 10:25 am #

    It certainly doesn’t help The Donald any that a group of people who manage to be more toxic and obnoxious than the college-campus Maoists are now prominently associated with him in a very negative way.

    • newworld October 24, 2016 at 10:47 am #

      FTR the alt-right is an upstream of politics cultural critique and minor culture producer.

      It is also the first segment of the Right to recognize the legitimacy of Identity Politics and is feeling its way to producing or legitimizing an identity for the despised “whites.”

      The alt-right is also the only thinking arm of today’s Right, the established right literally has to read the NYTs to figure out what to say on any given day.

      • sharonsj October 24, 2016 at 12:48 pm #

        The alt-right thinks? Not from the comments I’ve seen on plenty of web sites. They are white supremacists and their sympathizers who believe we are being destroyed by immigrants (illegal and otherwise), the blacks and the Jews (the latter so powerful that they control the world).

        Not only are they delusional but ignorant as well; I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to post actual facts in rebuttal to their claims… facts that are available in moments on the internet. but they’ll never take the time to do research but it interferes with their “thinking.”

        • Q. Shtik October 24, 2016 at 1:42 pm #

          I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to post actual facts in rebuttal to their claims…

          =============

          …but this is not one of them.

        • newworld October 24, 2016 at 2:52 pm #

          What you rhetorically call “White supremacy” is just the unauthorized identity politics for disenfranchised whites, that is it nothing more.

          Your rhetoric is as inflammatory and illegitimate as white bigots screaming “nigger” at someone wanting his or her rights respected.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 3:12 pm #

          sharonsj, it has been very aptly said that anti-semitism is the socialism of fools.

          Orwell (1945) correctly identified two facts about anti-semitism. “One … is that above a certain intellectual level people are ashamed of being antisemitic and are careful to draw a distinction between ‘antisemitism’ and ‘disliking Jews’. The other is that antisemitism is an irrational thing.”

          This blog has pretensions to intellectual relevance, but there are quite a few posters who regularly demonstrate they haven’t attained Orwell’s minimal intellectual level, and are quite loud and insistent in their vulgar Jew-hatred. And since their hatred is irrational, they can’t be talked or argued out of it — they have to be shamed. It’s the only means that has any hope of succeeding.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 3:36 pm #

            Can you explain a bit more? Which is rational, anti-Semitism or disliking Jews? Orwell seems to be saying one is legitimate.

            You hate Israel I assume, so you are an Anti-Semite according to most Jews. As they define it, anything or anyone they don’t like is anti-Semitic. See the problem?

          • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 5:44 pm #

            Know what is even more irrational?
            Simply expecting more from the human race.

            Humans, by nature, by their primitive faculties, have to categorize, put things in their place, assign blame, and make guesses (religion) when they fail to comprehend or discover.

            They have an unbending need to assign blame, to find a villain.
            An enemy.

            It is far too irrational to expect people to look in the mirror, and behold the truth, by seeing the enemy staring back. Hardwired taboos. Hardwired deceits. It keeps man functioning, particularly as a socialized unit.

            The rationalist accepts that people will go on hating and assigning blame, organizing into clans and tribes and colonies.

            They interpret a pattern. They categorize it.
            You’re asking for people to stop being people.
            You see, I’m just asking to stop people.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 11:24 pm #

            Frankiti, why have moral or intellectual standards of any kind? Deep down we all feel like shoplifting, feeling up the hot barista, and shoving people in front of train when the subway platform gets slightly too crowded, so why bother having police and courts?

            There’s nothing “rational” about fatalism or nihilism. Human nature makes us capable of a wide range of behaviours, some of which are actually pretty noble.

          • Frankiti October 25, 2016 at 6:39 am #

            There is nothing of fatalism and nihilism in understanding that hard-wired human behavior is tempered and mitigated by rationalization. Weighing cost and benefits. Feeling up a barista might get you slapped with an assault charge in the US, a lashing in Singapore, a scream in Guatemala, a beheading in Yemen, or a date in Ireland. Societal norms and deviations vary. Police and courts are the result of societal contracts that are inescapable. You cannot be free from them… anywhere. You are enslaved by a human construct that only exists in the collective minds of a society.

            We have policed standards precisely for the reason that human behavior has far more detrimental feral and base attributes than unbiased and enlightened.

            The complication arises when expecting humans to transcend their nature. That would require questioning human nature, and accepting that humanity is not the desired end product that evolution may deliver. This is taboo. Humanity is sacrosanct. All of it.

          • dannyboy October 25, 2016 at 2:35 pm #

            “You hate Israel I assume, so you are an Anti-Semite according to most Jews. As they define it, anything or anyone they don’t like is anti-Semitic. See the problem?”

            Janos Skorenzy
            Spokesman for the Jews

        • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 3:28 pm #

          Whites have the right to their own Culture and Countries just like every one else. Refute that if you can.

          • shotho October 24, 2016 at 4:41 pm #

            Yes, and that’s what it might come to; a separate state of whites. And, one of latinos and another of blacks, etc. etc. etc.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 3:32 pm #

      Yeah, because such tactics work. The Left trounced the Right in the Cultural War. So now we copy you and study your Alinsky. And yes, it’s working. Americans don’t respond to intellectual arguments and polite demonstrations. But insult and humor? Gold as your Alinsky said. And symbolism! One cartoon is worth a thousand words. And internet memes are even better. We have gone beyond him simply because we have the technology to do so.

    • messianicdruid October 26, 2016 at 1:05 pm #

      Does it not help him that he is saying many things that Bernie, and many other socialist liberals have been saying for years? The message is lost on the antidisestablishmentarian teeter-totter.

  14. Greg Knepp October 24, 2016 at 10:33 am #

    Goebbels may have been parroting his boss, who stated, ” tell the big lie; the people will believe the big lie rather than the small one.”

    Jesus’ take on this was characteristically pithy, “my people will swallow a camel but choke on a gnat.”

    Mencken would be proud of you for today’s post, Jim. He said, “democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.”

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 10:36 am #

      Quoting Mencken? Now that’s OLD SCHOOL!

    • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

      Mencken was a great Man of the Right. An American Fascist.

      • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 5:28 pm #

        I think Mencken was a bit more complicated than that. He had German sympathies, a an American with Germanic roots.

        Above all else he was truthful, and had a sober understanding that most people were not worthy of having, or capable of managing, the freedoms they enjoy and demand.

        Humanity to him was a spectacle.
        A sad spectacle for him to take note of…

        • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 6:49 pm #

          Those sentiments are basic Fascism – and a profound criticism of Democracy in and of themselves. The German roots have nothing to do with it, essentially. The Law is for All.

          • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 7:35 pm #

            The sentiments leading to his opposition of US entry into WWI and II had much to do about his fondness for hisTeutonic roots as his disdain for interventionism.

            He was a proud German who didn’t want the US meddling in Germany’s affairs. He looked as Americans as inferiors on top of it.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 7:56 pm #

            Many were against these insane wars that has cost us our Civilization in the end. There was a massive Peace Movement before both wars – all written out of history by the Tribe of course.

          • Greg Knepp October 25, 2016 at 12:45 pm #

            It also helps to have some familiarity with mid-20th century Baltimore. Baltimore is unique among American cities; there is nothing quite like it. Mencken dubbed it ‘the last great medieval city’.

            Mencken, Poe, Babe Ruth, Frank Zappa and John Waters are but a few among a multitude of oddball types who have found comport in this town that time forgot.

  15. richsob October 24, 2016 at 10:40 am #

    I have promised myself that if Hillary gets elected I’m going to stop making myself miserable about what happens to this country. I saw combat, I bled for this country, I have paid a lot of taxes, I created a lot of jobs over the years and I have done my fair share of charity work for society. If the American people was to piss away their country then I’m not going to sweat it anymore. I’ve got mine. I can sit back and watch things go down the tubes and I’ll be fine. I have never understood how anyone can be completely removed from what is going on around them but in two weeks I will know if that is going to be my attitude too. Life is too short to sit around eating myself up over something I tried for 50 years to control but it just didn’t work out the way I wanted it to. We’ll see. Either way I’m cool.

    • baird October 24, 2016 at 10:53 am #

      Seems as if you’re a solid guy who has paid a lot of dues and contributed to making a better world. However I respectfully submit that it’s highly unlikely that you or anyone else will be “fine” unless there is a profound course correction.

      • richsob October 24, 2016 at 11:01 am #

        What I did was liquidate everything in industries that have fallen out of political favor and moved into businesses that will thrive in the idiocy that’s bound to come with ever increasing liberal economic and financial policies. I will live by the words in the following statement made by Rhett Butler to Scarlett in Gone With The Wind when it was obvious the South was going to fall: “I told you once before that there were two times for making big money, one in the up-building of a country and the other in its destruction. Slow money on the up-building, fast money in the crack-up. Remember my words. Perhaps they may be of use to you some day.”

    • lsjogren October 24, 2016 at 11:16 am #

      I too am resigned to the fact that the progressives will wipe out the human race.

      And there’s no introspection in progressivism, so they will never recognize or acknowledge that it was they, not their boogiemen du jour, who destroyed it.

      • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 1:44 pm #

        You have a basic wit, like Drano.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 3:41 pm #

      This book has helped many accept the almost inevitable (if Trump loses).

      amazon.com/Enjoy-Decline-Accepting-Living-United/dp/1480284769/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=147733793…

    • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 5:19 pm #

      Humans, and their civilizations, are migratory.
      Like ants and their colonies
      When sh*t goes bad, they move
      and start over.

      They just can’t seem to run from themselves.
      Their own, and the planet’s, worst enemy.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 7:57 pm #

        Have you considered joining the Church of Euthanasia? And perhaps partaking of their Sacrament?

        • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 9:01 pm #

          Nah, I want to savor your extinction.
          The turning… no, no… the browning.
          Yes.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 11:42 pm #

            You’re a Devil, Rank. Say hi to Tom when you go down.

  16. davidreese2 October 24, 2016 at 10:48 am #

    I’m voting for Jill Stein.

    Yes, she hasn’t a chance.

    But it’s my way of telling the Establishment: None of the Above!

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 10:53 am #

      Do it in a state where it doesn’t matter. I live in Texas. I can’t protest vote.

      • elysianfield October 24, 2016 at 12:25 pm #

        Wolfie,
        Where in Texas?

        • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 12:55 pm #

          Houston.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 6:46 pm #

            Figures. The part of Texas least like Texas.

          • Sticks-of-TNT October 27, 2016 at 11:14 pm #

            “the part…least like Texas”

            Most of us here think that’s Austin.

            And since George W. Bush did his damage…Crawford.

            -Sticks

  17. Zoltar October 24, 2016 at 10:50 am #

    “…it will be salutary for the ruling establishment to unravel with [Hillary] in charge of it. That way, the right people will be blamed for the mismanagement of our national affairs.”

    I agree with your reasoning, Jim, if the establish indeed undergoes a long-overdue unraveling during her watch. The problem is that, regarding the insane neocon goal of forcing Russia into submission, as well as obeisance to the Financial oligarchs, and ramrodding the TPP through, she will face no meaningful opposition.

    It is reasonable to hope that a President Trump, facing two opposing parties, would be thwarted at every turn; a nominally-Democrat President Hillary, with the neocons now in her camp, strikes me and many others as much more dangerous.

    • lsjogren October 24, 2016 at 11:11 am #

      The unraveling won’t necessarily be in a crisis.

      Look at how California is gradually evolving to a Warlord State. The Democrats remain firmly entrenched in power. The populace are like the proverbial frog being very gradually boiled to death, unaware of it because of how gradually the heat is being administered.

      No reason the same will not be the case for the US as a whole.

    • shotho October 24, 2016 at 4:45 pm #

      The “unraveling” has been going on for quite some time. Yes, Rodham will accelerate it. Baked in the cake, baby, baked in the cake.

  18. volodya October 24, 2016 at 10:59 am #

    JHK makes a great point. Nobody else to point their fingers at. But who ultimately put Hillary in power? It was the ordinary voter. Who are they going to point their fingers at? They can’t plead ignorance. They can’t say they didn’t know. Hillary has been on full display, only the willfully blind can miss her howling incompetence and corruption and mendacity.

    But the ordinary Joe and his wife Jane don’t have a media mega-phone and neither do their hyper politically correct college kids. But there are people that DO have media megaphones, who ARE connected and therefore much more in-the-know. But they still fought to get Hillary elected. All I can think of is naked self interest and the hope for patronage positions as their reason. It will be interesting to see, when the inevitable calamities unfold, who will they blame?

    But self-interest is no excuse. They can point to the lack of willing bodies willing to contest the Democratic primaries. They can say Hillary was the only viable entity and better than the alternatives. But, like Hunter Thompson sez, the lesser of the evils is still evil. And it all points to Democratic institutional atrophy and intellectual exhaustion. All the more reason to abandon ship and try to float something new. But the will and the vim and vigor wasn’t there.

    What I’ve seen of the foreign policy elite gives me no confidence. They are stuck deep in mind-ruts. If you want to be of their ilk you must also be in their rut. Deep in the mid-rut himself, Leon Panetta sez we know how to do this, despite all evidence to the contrary. Hearing people like him talk you hear all the delusions of American grandeur, all the mis-apprehensions about the world outside. One shudders.

    And so an idiotic war with Russia, fighting over parts of the globe that are far, far away and matter not one whit, is not only thinkable, but given the utter lack of intellectual reach and flexibility of decision makers and policy shapers, more likely than not.

    • ozone October 24, 2016 at 1:11 pm #

      (On hoisting Hillary to the POTUS pedestal and foisting her upon a confused, weary and disgruntled citizenry.)

      “But self-interest is no excuse. They can point to the lack of willing bodies willing to contest the Democratic primaries. They can say Hillary was the only viable entity and better than the alternatives. But, like Hunter Thompson sez, the lesser of the evils is still evil. And it all points to Democratic institutional atrophy and intellectual exhaustion. All the more reason to abandon ship and try to float something new. But the will and the vim and vigor wasn’t there.”

      V.,
      I tend to think it very much *is* about self-interest!
      Here’s a handy reference as to whom she’ll actually be representing from the Ovoid Orifice (aside from ‘Retired’; that’s just money-for-nuthin’).:

      opensecrets.org/pres16/industries?id=N00000019

      The general populace has no control over who is put up as a nominee for POTUS, thus leading to even more apathy and resignation as the Machine takes over more and more of the process.
      Plus, as we’ve discussed before, the real life-and-death hurt has not yet been exposed *even as it’s steadily making its way through the public* in the form of poisoning, short-sighted policy making and a justice system sratified according to wealth and nepotism. Who benefits? “The System” will encounter a huge failure [as it historically always does] that will cost a lot of lives and will be totally resistant to spin. It will probably happen on Hillary’s watch, as we’ve seen how precipitous and ridiculously wrong her decisions (and her neo-con advisors) are – and will be. THEN the banquet of consequences will be served out of the beasts that have been endlessly fattening in the dark and secret barns and pastures of the Oligarchs.

      Corruption grows as a failing entity desperately seeks to ensure its hold on power and continuation. (And, as we see right here, the purposeful mendacity of our own shitbird contingent proves the awesome depths of corruption and how far the Omni-state is willing to go. It’s gettin’ on Hallowe’en and The Spooks are going to have themselves a high ol’ time… for a while.)

      Good Luck.

      • Buck Stud October 25, 2016 at 1:50 pm #

        Since men are not “Gods” the choice will always be one of lesser or greater evil.

  19. wpa_ccc October 24, 2016 at 11:05 am #

    “with the cherry-on-top being Hillary’s eventual impeachment for lying, a fate that her husband and the late Richard Nixon both wiggled out of one way or another.”

    IMPEACH: charge (the holder of a public office) with misconduct

    Any politician can be impeached. Anyone at any moment can have their integrity called into question. But the Senate has to convict based on evidence. So far, there’s a whole lot of “impeaching” going on, but no one is being convicted based on real evidence.

    The way you “wiggle out of it” is by demanding evidence and exposing the impeachment as the baseless political move it usually is, unrelated to actual public office misconduct.

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 11:09 am #

      Didn’t they impeach Jerry Seinfeld’s father as Condo president?

      • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 12:08 pm #

        Impeachment is rarely used in the U.S. and has never been successful (although Nixon obviously saw the writing on the wall). The U.S. should seriously reconsider the structure of its government. The legislative branch is endlessly mired in corruption, derelict in its duties and careless of its prerogatives; the judiciary is hopelessly politicized; and the executive grows ever more imperial as a result.

        scholar.harvard.edu/levitsky/files/1.1linz.pdf

        Linz identified structural problems of presidentialism including, among others, ‘the dual legitimacy of dual agents, the increased likelihood of interbranch conflict, the lack of mechanisms to resolve these conflicts, the zero-sum “character of presidential elections,” majoritarianism, disproportionality, polarization, rigidity (resulting from fixed terms), and bans/limits on reelection.’

        Would a parliamentary system be any more successful? Well, how could it be worse? Just give it some thought.

      • elysianfield October 24, 2016 at 12:26 pm #

        Hoochie-Mama!

  20. venuspluto67 October 24, 2016 at 11:11 am #

    TBH, I think our suicidal drive towards war with Russia and maybe also China is a reflection of the narcissism of our society and particularly of our political class. When a narcissist doesn’t have an authority or parental figure restraining their excesses, they seem driven by a pathological need to just keep ramping up and ramping up and ramping up their outrageoius behavior. It’s almost as though they are in a contest with themselves to see how far off the deep end they can possibly go. I would imagine this could play out on a collective level as easily as it could an individual level. Spirit help us all!

    • zekesdad October 24, 2016 at 11:36 am #

      You and JHK are so confused about Russia. No one is advocating war with Russia. And no, I’m not a Hillary supporter. But both of you need to open your eyes and see who the real aggressor is. Russia is building up its military while Obama is hollowing out ours. Russia brutally annexed territory from Georgia and Ukraine on some kind of pretext that the Russian speakers in those sovereign countries were somehow being victimized. Such aggression sends an unmistakable message to the rest of the nations of the former Soviet Bloc. Russia’s president-for-life uses their energy as an economic weapon, and threatens anyone who opposes him. This shirtless macho man has even murdered female journalists.

      • venuspluto67 October 24, 2016 at 11:54 am #

        zekesdad = obvious Deep State operative

      • ozone October 24, 2016 at 12:21 pm #

        Whence the F-35, Fool?
        (Feeling very fortunate not to be “Zeke”…)

        • Lawfish October 24, 2016 at 3:48 pm #

          “Russia brutally annexed territory from Georgia and Ukraine on some kind of pretext that the Russian speakers in those sovereign countries were somehow being victimized.”

          This after the U.S. operation to overthrow the Ukrainian government. And the Ukrainians voted to be annexed to Russia. Get a grip.

  21. FincaInTheMountains October 24, 2016 at 12:09 pm #

    Zed’s dead baby : No one is advocating war with Russia

    Sure you don’t. The Pentagon ran out of supply of oversized combat diapers.

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 12:58 pm #

      Who’s Zed?
      Zed’s dead baby. Zed’s dead.
      Pulp Fiction

  22. mghines October 24, 2016 at 12:11 pm #

    Jim, You may be right about a military coup if Trump gets in. However, as far as Hillary is concerned, just because she may be impeached doesn’t mean she will have to leave office. I believe her husband was impeached and still remained in office.
    Maybe a military coup would be in the wings for Hillary as well. At least with the military you know what you are getting, martial law. After all democracy is just government by force. At least it would be seen as it is.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 3:30 pm #

      mghines: “After all democracy is just government by force.”

      Uh, this is a pretty degraded view of what democracy is. All government is government by force, since the state by definition monopolizes the legitimate use of force in society. But there’s still a world of difference between governments that enjoy the consent of the governed and those that feel no need for such consent. The theory at least is still alive in the U.S., and the embers could be fanned to flame again.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 6:53 pm #

        Communism never even asks the People if they want to be Communists.

        • Frankiti October 25, 2016 at 7:02 am #

          Show me a democracy.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2016 at 2:23 pm #

            Exactly, both Communism and Fascism, the Founding Father, the Greek Sages, and the Sages of the East all had a realistically low view of the average man. You have this much wisdom, but then lose your way in Nihilism and perhaps Tribalism.

          • Frankiti October 25, 2016 at 5:55 pm #

            Me? Tribalism? What tribe would that be, Zapffe’s waterhole clan?

          • J. Dean October 25, 2016 at 6:02 pm #

            Chesterton said the only problem with democracy is that we’re not good enough to practice it.

  23. wpa_ccc October 24, 2016 at 12:17 pm #

    “For a cleared-through-censor Times editorial by Jonathan Rauch to state “In politics, hypocrisy and doublespeak are tools.” is breathtaking.” –pequiste

    I was shocked recently when I visited a casino and found gambling was happening there…

    Week after week on CFN the NYT is berated as “mainstream media” that cannot be trusted. If the NYT now says there is hypocrisy in politics (shocking, I know!) why is such CW “breathtaking”?

    Many of us have been saying the obvious about politics and hypocrisy for years. Why is it now “breathtaking” when the NYT says the same?

  24. elysianfield October 24, 2016 at 12:20 pm #

    BBC, This AM, reports that Tom Haden died.

    I thought the air a bit cleaner when I awoke this morning.

    • dannyboy October 25, 2016 at 2:40 pm #

      continue to rejoice in the death of others

      …that should get you where you are going

      • elysianfield October 26, 2016 at 10:34 am #

        d,
        No rejoicing…just a quiet satisfaction….

  25. erik October 24, 2016 at 12:21 pm #

    So maybe this election and what it will bring, will be a step on the road to national dissolution.
    Secessionist sentiment bubbles beneath the surface and has at times since the founding. The coming crackup of the federal govt. ability to dispense cheese will sharpen this. They have expended all their ammunition to “stabilize” the economy. they dare not raise interest rates; one quarter percent would deep six the stock market and the “investment” racket, and they can’t lower interest anymore. So what do they do when the next recession arrives?

    The fall of the central govt. has to happen. The corruption has bitten too deep. It’s like a homeless person who spent his prime years in progressive day by day steps of disfunction. He gets there one day at a time, but it’s a process that has no reverse gear. As the saying goes, getting into trouble is easy, but getting out is hard.
    The govt. must fall and the country will break up. It’s the only way forward, but it will take time..

  26. volodya October 24, 2016 at 12:33 pm #

    Zekesdad, what you say about Putin is true, he is all the bad things, autocrat, thief, murderer, an enabler of thieving cronies. Add to that his aggressive foreign policy, stymied mostly (for now) by Russia’s kleptocrat oligarchs and 50 dollar oil.

    Of course, Russia may be propping up Assad and it may have grabbed some slices of territory in its backyard but it’s not like Russia is fighting the Wehrmacht.

    The problem is that the United States seems to want to look for trouble. It seems to want to make all this the business of the United States. That way lies conflict and, given the American predisposition for miscalculation and bumbling, war.

    It’s hard to understand this attitude. I guess that the U.S foreign policy establishment hasn’t noticed what Trump and others noticed, that the United States is a shadow of its post-WW2 self, that it no longer has any competence in world affairs, never mind the economic wherewithal to mount a major war effort.

    Aside from Sarah Palin’s backyard, the United States is a long ways from Russia. Yeah, I know, the Russkis have nukes. But I would argue that how Putin and Russia’s nomeklatura behave is mainly the concern of the Russian people, that is, no matter how abusive, in the end rulers rule with the consent and acquiescence of the ruled. And also the concern of Russia’s close European and Asian neighbors.

    IMO Russia is a corrupt and spavined country, depleted by drink, oligarch predation, calamitous communist rule and two disastrous conflicts with Germany ie I’m not one to paint the Russians as innocent bystanders in WW1 and WW2.

    The wars you mentioned did work as a distraction from Russia’s domestic troubles. The point is that Russia’s thrusts outward are more indicative of an aging and concussed pug, staggering slack-jawed about the boxing ring, more than a fighter in his prime.

    The Iron Curtain is down, this isn’t 1945 and Europe isn’t a smoking ruin. As such, there are powers in Europe that should be more than capable of dealing with Russia. I say SHOULD be capable if they would go back into the cultural and historical closet and find their man-pants. If they don’t, that again is the problem of Russia’s European neighbors, not the United States.

  27. teddyboy46 October 24, 2016 at 12:49 pm #

    To Vote for Hillary or Trump is to endorse and sanction the fraud that is has been perpetrated on us since Reagan took office. I am voting Green Party so i do not feel like a fool when i leave the voting booth.

    The George Orwell Theme Park of Democracy. I love it Jim’s post today was one of his best.

  28. bigmax October 24, 2016 at 1:01 pm #

    I wonder if a dissenting voice will be allowed, or if everyone here in Clusterfuck Nation will try to shoot me full of holes?

    What if a Hillary Administration is part of a long Obama/Clinton strategy of slow but steady progressivism? A reaction to Republican intransigence during the 8 years of the Obama administration?

    All the things that Obama couldn’t get done in his 8 years may become possible with a wave election that give Democrats control of both houses of Congress. Which would give a progressive coalition of Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and a progressive Supreme Court the ability to enact a communitarian agenda. If Hillary is not the corrupt pol people assume her to be, but rather, a practical but progressive politician, we could have a very productive 4 years, turning this country away from its imperialistic era, towards a Bernie Sanders-type economy of well-being.

    In this way, Trump will have been the death of the lizard-brain, fear-based party, revealing it for what it is. Once the true face of Republicanism is revealed to be that of the monstrous “pussy-grabber,” we can get on with reforming our government from a money-based influence machine to a truly “matriarchal” system of encouraging community values. This may be what it means to have the first woman president.

    I know it’s more fashionable to prognosticate doom and gloom, but what we may be witnessing is the slow unfolding of a fifty-year long Obama legacy – a result of his strategy of11-dimensional chess – that started with surviving Mitch McConnell intransigence, then baiting the opposition into nominating Trump, then turning the Supreme Court liberal for a generation, then enacting progressive legislation, with Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren in positions to guide enlightened legislation through Congress.

    In other words, Hillary may surprise us all and be a great president.

    Sorry to inject positivity into the Clusterfuck Nation mind-hive, where everyone tries to top each other with visions of doom and gloom, but surely there’s room for dissent on a blog that is unrelentingly apocalyptic – and which every prediction of immanent collapse turns out to be embarrassingly wrong.

    I just want to propose the possibility that we are on the verge of a Golden Age of progressive politics, and that Hillary will be the FDR of a new New Deal.

    OK, go ahead and ridicule me for my rosy prognostication. Surely there’s room for a pollyanna view of American politics to balance JHK’s unrelenting (and embarrassing) predictions of impending doom.

    • Bro Jobe October 24, 2016 at 1:09 pm #

      Nah. That’s the future I’d prefer to Trump’s or JHK’s. It won’t go that well, in all likelihood, but it’s a positive vision that is are among the CFN commentariat.

    • wpa_ccc October 24, 2016 at 1:30 pm #

      “the slow unfolding of a fifty-year long Obama legacy – a result of his strategy of 11-dimensional chess” –bigmax

      Love it! I appreciated a break from the non-stop predictions of doom, and a break from the racist, misogynist, and antisemitic hate. Though the perception has been created through FauxNews, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, etc. … that Hillary is the devil. Trump actually said that in a nationally televised debate. Glad you have been able to resist the brainwashing.

      Thanks!

    • ozone October 24, 2016 at 1:49 pm #

      bigmax,
      That’s an interesting theory/dreamquest, but I think you’ll find Hillary’s future decisions to be reflective of her stint at State. (That is not in line with your picture of peace ‘n harmony, but as long as you’re preparing for a different outcome than the one you’re dreaming of, I got no problem with it. “…Rainy day; dream away…”)

    • Q. Shtik October 24, 2016 at 2:06 pm #

      OK, go ahead and ridicule me for my rosy prognostication. – bigmax (probably one of wpa’s other screen names)

      =================

      If there’s two things I can’t stand it’s rosy optimism and Rosie O’Donnell.

    • newworld October 24, 2016 at 3:00 pm #

      More like Venezuela

    • Elrond Hubbard October 24, 2016 at 3:48 pm #

      bigmax: Hillary talks a good game, and I for one like to think that her heart is in the right place, kinda. Kinda but not really, because she really is a creature of the status quo, which is coming apart before our eyes. What’s more, rightly or wrongly, Hillary is really, seriously hated by a significant segment of the American public who won’t be talked out of their hatred with a few speeches, precisely because she is a creature of the status quo. The Trump candidacy and all the surrounding foofaraw, including mass derision of the mainstream media, represents a serious legitimacy crisis for more than just the presidency.

      Here at CFN we are all about the real-world consequences of refusing to deal with reality that have been piling up for the past 40 years or so. If the shit hits the fan on Hillary’s watch, which I think is more likely than not (especially if she gets a second term), she had better be ready to deal with the underlying reality. FDR had the insight to realize that major rice bowls needed to be broken in order to rescue capitalism from its own consequences, and he had the political means at his disposal to make his vision happen. Will HRC have either? It’s an open question.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 6:57 pm #

        Did you hear Trump’s Gettysburg address? He plans Anti-Trust legislation against the Media. If you are a Socialist, you have to vote for him – or be revealed as a hypocrite.

    • Yuri Sowryteski October 24, 2016 at 11:49 pm #

      … This is not where I go for optimism … or courtesy … or balance. I come here for the non-conformists allergic to group-think. In some cases, shots are taken before questions are asked, but not always. A little of this goes a long way, since I don’t really need my misanthropy stimulated on a daily basis to enjoy it.

    • Buck Stud October 25, 2016 at 1:54 pm #

      Excellent post Big Max and refreshing to see another voice not from the Alt- Right, “mooing” and “baaahing” like the cow or sheep in front of them.

    • messianicdruid October 27, 2016 at 12:03 pm #

      CFN is bipolar, whoopee.

  29. capt spaulding October 24, 2016 at 1:04 pm #

    It’s odd to sit in on something as it happens in front of you. I suspect that what we are seeing is a fourth turning. I’m gonna have to read the book again to try & get an idea of how far along the path we have traveled so far.

  30. Bro Jobe October 24, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

    “This cartoon of a rich kid with no internal boundaries was unable to articulate their legitimate complaints.”

    Well said. Those voters did deserve a real voice to represent them and their lost ground.

    I continue, however, to disagree with JHK about Russia. It’s apparent from tech journalism beyond the partisan confines of the NYT that the Kremlin has organized groups of hackers to poke around everything from our power grid to major domain-name servers. Last Friday, also from Russia, an anti-Putin group claimed to have taken down parts of the East Coast’s access to the Net as a warning to Putin’s own hackers.

    Putin’s government has set up “troll factories” where a “troll army” of hard-working, underpaid Russians spam and flame any questioning of the Russian government line on Ukraine, the Baltics, and more.

    That does not mean that I think Putin and is government do not have the right–even responsibility–to do these things. We are once again at geopolitical loggerheads with Russia in a number of areas. Russia is simply doing what nations do with rivals: sow doubt, discord, and exploit weakness instead of waging full-fledged war.

    Doing so on the Internet is cheap.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 7:01 pm #

      Israel and America do the same thing for the American Empire of Judeo-Masonry. They are the ones on the attack – Putin is merely answering in kind. Now riddle me this: if our media won’t do its job, why shouldn’t we listen to Wiki Leaks? And if Russia is responsible, then good on them. We owe them a debt of gratitude.

      It’s not rocket science, but it’s amazing how befuddled people get over the simplest things. And again, if this is what it takes to stop Hillary and preserve world peace, it is not only Putin’s self interest as President of Russia, but his duty to the world to release this information.

  31. wpa_ccc October 24, 2016 at 1:15 pm #

    “The unraveling won’t necessarily be in a crisis. Look at how California is gradually evolving to a Warlord State. ” –lsjogren

    Yes, look at California. Under Democratic control most of what makes America great is happening in California.

    There is a consensus about the challenges facing the world: globalization, urbanization, climate change. California is addressing them better than any country, while simultaneously setting an example as the world’s most diverse and dynamic economy.

    If the state were stacked up against nations, California would be the seventh-largest economy, with an equivalent gross domestic product greater than Brazil’s.

    California is not just big, but also booming. California had a 3.29 percent growth rate last year, more than five times that of No. 3 Japan, almost twice No. 4 Germany, about half again as much as No. 5 U.K., almost three times No. 6 France and a third more than No. 1 U.S.

    Instead of prejudiced-based whining, lsjogren, why not provide some specific facts to support your opinion?

    • newworld October 24, 2016 at 2:59 pm #

      California’s future is as solid as Twitter’s

    • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

      Carol Asokasalom

      • Buck Stud October 25, 2016 at 1:58 pm #

        You seem to be suffering from a repetitive obsession/affliction but you’re not the first poster whose mind Asoka has captured.

        Speaking of which, I don’t read much from “Prog” these days.

    • Lawfish October 24, 2016 at 3:57 pm #

      California’s future will be much like its past. When the water runs out, it will return to the desert it was. If I owned property there, I’d dump it as fast as possible and move somewhere that has a renewable water source and good soil.

      • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 5:14 pm #

        Once Hillary opens the borders, agriculture, the largest net user of Colorado river water, will move south to the far more aqueous Amazon basin, and out east to the palm forests of southeast Asia. Agriculture in California is going extinct. Viniculture (wine production) will be spared. Too many well-heeled SanFran donors and liberal yuppies enjoy their weekends drinking the Chardonnays and Cabernets draining the Sierra Nevada.

  32. JimmieOakland October 24, 2016 at 2:39 pm #

    I doubt it will make much difference who is driving the bus now, Hillary or Trump, because the check engine light is flashing and the brakes are shot. I think it is fanciful to suppose that the “right” candidate with a proper understanding of what must be done to actually solve problems will be elected, and if elected, will be allowed to serve that long.

    Trump’s candidacy was necessary. He is a fool, but one who points out that system is rigged. After Bernie Sander’s knee-capping, can anyone doubt that? I expect the first violence will be on the floor of the House, with Congress throwing punches like Taiwanese legislators. No more of the phony, “I disagree with my good friend across the aisle”, bullshit, those days are gone. it gets worse after that.

    I think it is better for Hillary to be in charge when this happens, because for her, the “Bush did it” meme is unavailable.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 7:06 pm #

      Yes, the Al Smith roast was grotesque: all these Catholic Neo-Cons who hate Trump pretending to be nice to him. He doused them with a bit of honest hatred and they booed. Hypocrites love Hypocrisy and fear the coming of honest conflict. Has any man ever had more of a casus belli? Or the group he represents? Was it Lee who said, When I draw my sword, I will throw away the scabbard.

      • dannyboy October 25, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

        you sure got a lot of opinions about other people

        …spend any time reflecting on yourself?

        before it’s too late?

      • Frankiti October 25, 2016 at 6:04 pm #

        I believe that Janos is Pat Buchanan… I mean, besides being both Vlads.

        Every riposte (pun intended) contains a Buchananesque arcane historical quote… usually from leaders or politicians of some sort.

        I’m sure of it.

    • Buck Stud October 25, 2016 at 2:06 pm #

      Well Jimmy the check engine light comes and goes that’s why they sell replacement parts.

      Truth be told, the Deplorables are enraged and dejected because America is buying from ‘Advance Auto Parts’ as opposed to the filthy junkyard.

      Beyond that, have no doubt about which political party is championing high speed rail transportation and it’s not the party of Trump/ “Hair Furor”.

  33. DanandMary October 24, 2016 at 3:33 pm #

    The other day, listening to NPR in my shop… for background noise… I heard Robin Young say to some Dem lackey, “well, at least you have to admit that Russia invaded Crimea” I almost spit out my hard root beer. WTF??

    • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 3:39 pm #

      They replayed an interview with Tom Hayden… he was correcting her throughout. She’s not a sharp knife by any stretch.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 7:08 pm #

        At his son’s wedding to a Black Woman, Hayden expressed his satisfaction. This is how he wanted the White Race to die, peacefully and voluntarily.

        Sorry Tom, not going to happen. Enjoy Hell.

  34. Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 4:28 pm #

    “They don’t recognize the basic energy equation that has made it impossible for industrial economies to keep growing, or the deformities in banking and finance that result from official efforts to overcome these implacable conditions, namely, the piling up of ever-greater debt to “solve” the problem of over-indebtedness.”

    I disagree. She does. She understands the government’s role in facilitating the machinations and scheming by the financial sector to keep the theater running.

    She also understands that nothing cures the dilemma of too much debt on the books and too few jobs like a good war.

    A good big war.

    • wpa_ccc October 24, 2016 at 6:42 pm #

      She is too smart to get us into a war. And the youth are too smart to join up or obey deployment orders. War is out of the question, frankasoka

      • Yuri Sowryteski October 25, 2016 at 12:05 am #

        depends on which “us” you’re talkin’ about. and which youth. and the definition of War. Hope you are right, ’cause I’m not seeing much “smart” anywhere. Here’s to me just being to dum to see it.

    • Exscotticus October 26, 2016 at 12:31 am #

      Good big wars haven’t been all that beneficial to the U.S. WWII was an exception; we stayed on the sidelines for quite a while selling arms and generally benefitting from the chaos. But that doesn’t work when you have to actually do the fighting. Vietnam was an economic disaster. A good chunk of our 20 trillion dollar debt is Iraq and Afghanistan. Think we got our money’s worth?

  35. AKlein October 24, 2016 at 4:59 pm #

    It seems quite wise to assert that both candidates are bad, but for different reasons. It sounds “measured”. Very controlled. Well, best I can tell, one of the candidates seems to like conflict. I mean the kind of conflict where people die. The candidate I have in mind actually made light of an adversary being killed as a result of the chaos of war. Now, the other candidate seems averse to conflict. That candidate talks about making “deals”. Yes, it seems a bit “salesy. But that’s no hanging offense. So, basically, if you like war, you know for whom to vote. If not, vote for the other candidate. However, if you are one of the those who is not averse to war as a solution (to whatever), may I remind you some of the supposed adversaries are quite capable of shooting back and have the will to do so. How we handle the long emergency is certainly and issue. But only if we haven’t already been reduced to ashes, in which case the long emergency will have been preempted. Just sayin…

    • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 7:11 pm #

      Well said, Al. You are the third righteous Jew I’ve been looking for: Roy Masters, Jill Stein, and now you.

      Can I have a fourth?

    • Yuri Sowryteski October 25, 2016 at 12:44 am #

      War Profiteers love to send other people to kill. It’s a very special category. They come in all colors, etc., they sell to both sides, the requirement is being a psychopath.

      There is no money in peace; no one invests expecting a return.

      Like building your own house, with your own hands, peace is its own reward. It’s not a process involving politics or dispute. Seeing your mistakes is important. Removing flammable materials is like reducing conflict. Reduces the risks of seeing the whole thing burn down.

      War is necessary, death is necessary, but when lies and ideologies and vaporous repetitions are involved, look for a war profiteer trying to put a spell on you.

  36. Vlad the Impaler October 24, 2016 at 5:47 pm #

    “…because it will be salutary for the ruling establishment to unravel with her in charge of it. That way, the right people will be blamed…”

    The right people will never be blamed or take the blame. If things get bad enough for them they will take us to war…probably thermonuclear war!! They’re setting up for it with Putin as the new Hitler and Hillary’s finger on the red button!

    • wpa_ccc October 24, 2016 at 6:52 pm #

      “If things get bad enough for them they will take us to war…probably thermonuclear war!! “ –janos

      Wars will cease when we refuse to fight.

      Thermonuclear wars will cease when military personnel refuse to enter the code simultaneously to start the launch protocol.

      • elysianfield October 24, 2016 at 7:15 pm #

        Wpac,
        No, wars will only end when we decide, all of us, to live and work naked…imagine, wars would end because there would be no place to pin the medals on.

        I don’t know why you haven’t thought of this before…it is entirely in keeping with your mindset.

      • baird October 24, 2016 at 7:19 pm #

        As the soviet sub second in command did during the cuban missile crisis, gotta look hard to find that out.

  37. BackRowHeckler October 24, 2016 at 8:00 pm #

    Well, the Elitist self congratulatory circle jerks have already begun … in Manhattan, LA, Washington, San Fran and Boston (luminaries who call the shots) … big govt. types, MSM whores, academia faggots, Wall Street thieves, Hollywood scum … looks like the grift, scams and graft can continue on for at least 4 more years. Congratulations sh-tsuckers!

    Meantime, we’ll sit back and watch as the gathering disasters, foreign, and domestic crush this wobbly old hag and her sorority sister government. The lying media whores, lackys, and asskissers who got her in will be able to obfuscate the failure for awhile, but not forever.

    brh

    • Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 8:18 pm #

      Don’t believe the polls – they may be scams to make the faithful lose heart. In politics, perception is reality after all. Go and vote for Trump no matter what they say or do.

      • wpa_ccc October 24, 2016 at 8:56 pm #

        Hillary Clinton has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the inaugural ABC News 2016 election tracking poll, boosted by broad disapproval of Donald Trump on two controversial issues: His treatment of women and his reluctance to endorse the election’s legitimacy.

        Republican National Committee communications director Sean Spicer agreed with Conway, saying on CNN’s “Reliable Sources” later on Sunday, “There’s no question — I think we’re trailing behind.”

        Trump says the election is rigged, so why even bother to vote for Trump?

      • venuspluto67 October 25, 2016 at 1:11 pm #

        As this writer from the political religious right points out, in this crazy election season, different polls say different things, so who do you believe? I say just vote your conscience and fuck what other people think.

        • Buck Stud October 25, 2016 at 2:09 pm #

          No, the “aggregate” consensus now points to a landslide/wave type election.

          Thank you Donald Trump, thank you very,very much!

    • dannyboy October 25, 2016 at 2:55 pm #

      “Well, the Elitist self congratulatory circle jerks have already begun … in Manhattan”

      BRH, again please check all comments relating to manhattan with me before posting.

      I will make an exception and do a post-comment Correction:

      Here in Manhattan we are not spending much energy on this thing you are obsessing about. We have many other engagements and activities. Sorry you don’t.

  38. FincaInTheMountains October 24, 2016 at 9:00 pm #

    The Nuremberg Tribunal: what Hillary Clinton is afraid of?

    It is well known the widely held view that the US elections are a spectacle, the struggle of Nanai boys, political show-bis, or at worst, a struggle between two equally reactionary candidates.

    But for those who still remember the foundations of dialectical materialism, in which the criterion of truth has been the practice, it should be obvious that this view is completely hopeless from the point of view of Russian-American relations. It is like roller-paint the reality of political life in the United States in one color, not allowing distinguishing between colors and making friends.

    Moreover, it makes the supporters of this point of view, easy prey for manipulators that inspire in them the most rabid anti-Americanism, when to power in the US comes group tuned to real cooperation with Russia, and forced to marvel at America, when blatant Russophobia sets in the White House.

    The most striking example of such manipulation is undoubtedly the Watergate scandal, in which Richard Nixon – one of the most talented and visionary American presidents, who ended the war in Vietnam and began a policy of detente, went into political oblivion under the cheers of the “progressive” public on both sides of the ocean.

    And in the Soviet Union with pleasure relished the details of the American shame, despite the fact that the main motivation of Nixon impeachment was not the “love of democracy”, but a desire of the “party of war” to send into the trash SALT I agreement concluded by Nixon with the USSR.

    And it is no coincidence that one of the candidates for US presidency Donald Trump said on the eve of a televised debate that he considers himself a follower of Richard Nixon. After all, he is in a relentless struggle with the woman who 42 years ago destroyed Nixon as a political figure, somehow convincing him in his resignation. And now she’s trying to kill the Institution of the Presidency of the United States, turning it into a golden Bastinda’s hat to call flying monkeys and to use their terrible power to destroy all of humanity.

    Although the Rodino commission investigating the participation of President Nixon in the organization of “wiretapping” of Democratic National Committee, did not have any evidence of his guilt, but one half-hour record missing from the tape, on which the president by law was required to record all of his negotiations, and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has destroyed 33 thousand (!) of her e-mails after receiving the subpoena for the transfer of these documents to the US Congress, but President Nixon in 1974, resigned, and Hillary Clinton in 2016 was acquitted by the FBI.

    But this story has its own irony. In 2016 the mankind really goes back to 1972, when together with Nixon in the trash went Detente, peaceful coexistence of the two systems and, accordingly, the socialist system of management.

    But the most important thing is that in the last televised debate Trump refused to answer the question about his readiness to recognize the election results in the case of his loss. And when the anchor for the third time repeated the question, insisting on Trump’s reply, he in a quite mocking tone said that he would like to make you (Establishment?) nervous because of his lack of response to this question.

    And during Trump’s report on his activities during the first 100 days in office, the following words were said: “If they can do this now in relation to me, the man with unlimited resources and abilities, what will they do with you and your rights when Hillary becomes president ?! ”

    And the establishment is running scared, especially after Trump broke the tradition of demonstrating the unity of the ruling class at the charity event in New York. He doubled down, raising this evening the question of disgraceful dismissal of Hillary Clinton from the Rodino Commission, without going into details, but clearly enough to indicate his willingness to raise this issue in the remaining days of the campaign.

    But the Watergate scandal associated with the end of Detente and, accordingly, with the collapse of the Soviet Union, and Vladimir Putin has recently said that after the collapse of the USSR and the world socialist system the Cold War has not ended, and the peace treaty has yet to be concluded.

    This means that the winner of the Cold War will be determined in the near future, and what happened in 1991, was losing the battle, not the war.

    But The Great Patriotic War ended in Berlin in 1945, not in Moscow in 1942, and the words of Trump about Watergate at the charity event in conjunction with his words that the victory of Hillary means the enslavement of the United States by ISIS, say that the Trump America is at peace with Russian world, and most importantly, existential threat to it is ISIS, not Russia.

    And Russia in the war against ISIS for Trump America is an ally and Hillary Clinton and her accomplices in case of her seizure of power in the US awaits not a special prosecutor appointed by Trump to investigate her crimes against the US, but the Nuremberg Tribunal to investigate her crimes against Yugoslavia, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Chechnya.

    And such a threat is much worse than Nixon and Donald Trump, and it is not surprising that the “respectable assembly” booed in disapproval when Trump mentioned Watergate, but it is possible that the line was drawn when all burst out laughing to “joke” of Donald Trump. In it he described how Hillary bumped into him near the toilet and “begged his pardon”. Hall just exploded with laughter, including Hillary Clinton herself, as the US ruling class is well aware of Putin’s talk “to drown ’em in the toilet” and “pardon” in addition to the conventional sense means the traditional pardon by a president of his predecessor.

  39. Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 9:01 pm #

    dailystormer.com/austria-iraqi-who-raped-10-year-old-has-conviction-overturned-court-says-he-did-not…

    Sea Wolf chortles and hums “My Brown Eyed Girl”. Elrond smiles slightly and rubs his hands together with pleasure.

    • Frankiti October 24, 2016 at 9:14 pm #

      Seawolf has a deep fixation with buggery. Even today he paid mention to Zed, the sodomite, from Pulp Fiction.

    • BackRowHeckler October 24, 2016 at 9:51 pm #

      France, Great Britain and (especially) Sweden, these Muzzy invaders are having their way with unsuspecting and naïve European women and girls.

      This is what happens when you lose to the invaders, and men abdicate their responsibilities.

      Its called Soldiers Pay.

      brh

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 11:44 pm #

      Jesus Maude. Next you’ll be posting Alex Jones links.

  40. fodase October 24, 2016 at 9:01 pm #

    The economy can be supercharged for everyone immediately simply by slashing income taxes so wage earners have more dough in the pockets.

    John Doe with more money in his pocket spends more, which fuels employment, and you get a wonderful virtuous circle.

    It really is that simple.

    Leave it to the ignoramus lefties to eff that up.

  41. wpa_ccc October 24, 2016 at 9:10 pm #

    In the real world, people do disobey orders, as the Soviet sub commander, Vasili Alexandrovich Arkhipov, did… to avoid nuclear war.

    People like elysianfield don’t seem to know that military personnel have a duty and obligation to disobey unlawful or unconstitutional orders.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov

    • BackRowHeckler October 24, 2016 at 10:11 pm #

      Yeah, disobey a direct order from an officer or an NCO; next thing you know you’ll be chained up in the brig, awaiting a court martial.

      brh

      • wpa_ccc October 24, 2016 at 10:50 pm #

        brh, you coward. Your precious military career, your honorable discharge is more important than the lives of millions of men, women, and children being killed in a nuclear war?

        You are still alive because someone had the sense to disobey and avoid nuclear attack, you ungrateful &^%$&^*()%##^*(^

        🙂

        • BackRowHeckler October 24, 2016 at 11:01 pm #

          Jeez WPA, I can’t believe I got a rise out of you. This is a first! (as I kill time here waiting for the presses to go back on line)

          brh

          • wpa_ccc October 24, 2016 at 11:34 pm #

            Didn’t you see the smiley face? I’m just playin’ … exaggerating the situation just like you do, giving you a dose of your own medicine. Don’t take it seriously. As the CFN catechism says: we are all fucked.

  42. BackRowHeckler October 24, 2016 at 10:47 pm #

    Russia’s rolling out their new super-nuke, Satan 2, powerful enough to destroy Texas.

    2 questions:

    1) What happened to the vaunted SALT treaties lefties loved so much in the 80s? Remember those?

    2) What about Obama and Hillary’s ‘Russian Reset’? Is this it?

    Remember Obama’s line during his debate with Romney when he stated “The 80s are calling and they want their foreign policy back”. Man, that was a knee slapper! How stupid could Romney be, Jesus? In DC, lower Manhattan, Beverly Hills, the Mission District, Nob Hill, Georgetown, they were laughing like hell when they heard that. What idiots these Republicans are, not like us limousine libs, erudite, nuanced, eclectic, worldly, jaded, well traveled and well connected.

    brh

    • seawolf77 October 24, 2016 at 11:29 pm #

      Jesus people believe this crap. Mankind does not have the ability to destroy itself. It is a myth. Have you ever been to Texas? You actually believe a 100 ft missile can destroy Texas? That would be like a flea eating an elephant.

      • FincaInTheMountains October 25, 2016 at 6:07 am #

        from your mouth to god’s ears

      • Buck Stud October 25, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

        Seawolf please try and understand that it’s getting close to Halloween and brh’s annual donning of his George C Scott/George Patton costume.

  43. wpa_ccc October 24, 2016 at 11:49 pm #

    There are two major trends today. One eventually leads to a multicultural, scientific, tolerant society that will expand beyond Earth in the name of human progress.

    The other trend leads to fundamentalism, monoculturalism, and — eventually — civilizational ruin. Whichever of these two trends wins out will determine the fate of mankind. No pressure, clusterfuckers.

    • messianicdruid October 27, 2016 at 1:58 pm #

      Where’s your imagination ( vision ) wpa-ccc?

      You could have habitats of 150 progressives/liberals out there orbiting Europa, setting up habitats for dolphins, orcas, narwhal etc. On the surface.

  44. Janos Skorenzy October 24, 2016 at 11:54 pm #

    prisonplanet.com/new-podesta-email-exposes-playbook-for-rigging-polls-through-oversamples.html

    Devils. And all of you voting for the Witch Queen are glassy eyed cultists or flying monkey soldiers.

  45. BackRowHeckler October 25, 2016 at 12:45 am #

    Check out what happened at Temple U in Philly yesterday, CFNers.

    It ain’t pretty.

    (I’d post a link, but that would be breaking one of JHKs rules here)

    brh

    • malthuss October 25, 2016 at 1:07 pm #

      You can post You tube links.
      I think this site is now configured so the actual image will not appear.

      Maybe go to last weeks thread and try.

    • malthuss October 25, 2016 at 3:20 pm #

      SBPDL —-

      Anonymous said…

      Let’s see here, the swarm of attackers are described as “juveniles”, “young people”, “kids”, “kids”, “kids”, “boy”, “teen”, “teen”, “teen”, “kids”, “teens”, “girl”, “boys”, “young people”, “juveniles”, and finally “youth”.

      The image of little kids running around like scamps is supposed to distract the reader from the violent crimes and attacks they were committing. Of course, we can surmise that all the attackers were blacks and all the victims were white or asian…except for the poor police horse that got punched in the face.

      That begs the question, what if the horse kicked the kid that attacked it and killed him? Would the horse be called racist for killing this “unarmed teen”? Would the officer riding the horse get accused of a “hate crime”? Again, we know the answer is “yes” on both counts.

      October 25, 2016 at 8:26 AM

  46. pequiste October 25, 2016 at 1:38 am #

    “She is too smart to get us into a war. And the youth are too smart to join up or obey deployment orders. War is out of the question, frankasoka” wpa-ccc

    Hahahahahahahahah

    Hillary said she would put missiles around China if they didn’t exert some control over N. Korea (best Korea BTW) wunderkind Kim Jong Un. This kind of talk sets the stage for the formal fracture of the world into four divisions:

    – U.S.A., NATO members, Israel, Japan, Australia, Saudi and maybe Thailand with the Gulf States thrown in for good measure. The protectors of truth, justice and the American (petrodollar) way.

    – China, Russia, Iran, Arab League, Venezuela, Bolivia, the Sandinistas, with some Soviet UNion alumni : Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia for some color. Defenders of God and family.

    – Pakistan, India, Mexico, Indonesia, Brazil, Nigeria: big players who may play for either side. You don’t know and neither do I. Make them an offer.

    – Everyone else. Too small, poor or insignificant to matter. At this point no one gives a shit about Haiti.

    The perfect recipe for the big Enchilada. Yep WWIII.

    Hillary, as Secretary of State, and her best bud Preznit Barack “Barry Soetoro” Husssein Obama, were architects ( as Donald J. Trump said) of the destruction of Lybia and its subsquent civil war, probably the civil war in Yemen, and certainly the Syrian “refugee crisis” ensuring the invasion of Europe by millions of Yzlamik men of fighting age.

    Then there is the small issue of the former Secretary of State being responsible for the care and feeding of the protostate of ISIS. Quite an accomplishment, now with franchises in the former Lybia, Egypt, Iraq, West Africa, Philipines, Somalia and other charming idyllic lands. A terrorist proto-state that is furiously working to kill as many of its enemies as possible and looking for improved methods (see CBRN warfare) to get the job done for Mohammed’s sake, God damn it.

    Yep the old girl certainly is a smarty….can’t wait to become the commander in chief and have the generals and admirals over for some tea and tactics.

    And then the pillow talk with that notorious card and former Preznit Bill “I did not have sex with that woman; Ms Lewinsky…” Bubba, now first First Husband providing sage counsel to his beloved. “Now sugar, Mr Soros says we have to bomb Belgrade (again) because they are taking sides with those meanies in Moscow.” “You go on right away and call those Joint Chiefs and tell them to go on and bomb Belgrade and while they are at it to send some military aid to Haiti.”

    And the too-smart youth will miss the show entirely because they are busy on social media, shopping on-line, preening, or playing some very cool hip-hop tunes or the latest video game.

    I can’t imagine how you think that many willing persons are necessary for the next big war. Not many at all – and those who are are just itching for the balloon to go up. Get to use all the party favors and D.U.M.Bs and contingency plans and save the Plutocracy from the aftermath while saving their own skins , wpa-ccc/Asoka/Carol and whatever other aliases you go by.

    Yeah, I can see just how smart she is. And you “War is out of the question….” A regular Archimedes.

    Extra credit if you know (since you and Hillary are so smart) who said: “Get those fucking retards out of here!” ?

    • malthuss October 25, 2016 at 3:21 pm #

      TY.

      [short for thank you].

      • pequiste October 26, 2016 at 12:10 am #

        You’re welcome.

        And thank you also, Malthuss, for your continued stalwart participation as a CFNer.

  47. wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 2:57 am #

    SLOUCHING TOWARD A DOUBLE-DIGIT LEAD

    With two weeks to go, Hillary widens lead over loser Trump to 8 points

    2016 General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

    49% Hillary Clinton

    41% Donald Trump

    (a composite average from tracking 341 polls from 43 pollsters, updated 4 hours ago)

    • FincaInTheMountains October 25, 2016 at 6:05 am #

      Real polls shows Hillary hardly at 8%.

  48. AHtheHumanity October 25, 2016 at 4:07 am #

    “…recognition that the federal government is the greatest obstacle for America making the necessary adjustments to a world that has changed. ” -JHK

    It’s established that mankind cannot foresee the future and therefore their far reaching plans end up crashing hard. The federal gov’t last greatest efforts creating order amid chaos was in the first 100 years when there were not so many people (unoccupied most of the day and watching television to fill up their time becoming their major channel of information and learning about their world…Orwellian indeed) tearing things up. It’s not Trumps fault that the president of the USA is never elected by popular vote and the electoral college/establishment has already decided who the president is going to be and orchestrated their statements/actions along with the major media to make political operations seem truly like a representative democracy. So who needs to vote in a presidential election? Did you vote for your state senator? Did you vote for your mayor? Do you elect your local police chief? Why didn’t you take a selfie when voting for your local officials? Maybe you’re part of a board that manages a hospital, cooperative or non profit? Would you be willing to be president of THAT little group? Do you like the current president of your little group? How often do you get together and what have you accomplished in 8 years? Did you build something or establish orders of any kind and how’s that working out for you and everyone else?

  49. tucsonspur October 25, 2016 at 4:58 am #

    What Yeats had to say almost one hundred years ago:

    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the center cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight; somewhere in sands of the desert
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again; but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

    “The Second Coming”, around 1920

  50. FincaInTheMountains October 25, 2016 at 6:03 am #

    What about Obama and Hillary’s ‘Russian Reset’? Is this it?

    Well, Hillary couldn’t afford a decent Russian interpreter and translated the word “reset” into Russian “overload” which was imprinted on the Red Button so coveted by Killery.

    Button gaffe embarrasses Clinton
    news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7930047.stm

  51. FincaInTheMountains October 25, 2016 at 6:09 am #

    Trump: Investigate Clinton Ties to Donation to FBI’s Deputy Director’s Wife

    Donald Trump demanded an investigation into revelations a Hillary Clinton ally donated almost $500,000 to the campaign of the wife of an FBI official who helped oversee the agency’s probe of Clinton’s email server.

    The GOP presidential nominee said the disclosure, first reported by the Wall Street Journal, was “shocking,” declaring at a rally in St. Augustine, Fla., on Monday: “We’ve never had a thing like this in the history of this country.”

    newsmax.com/Politics/investigation-FBI-Hillary-Clinton-email/2016/10/24/id/755080/

    • pequiste October 25, 2016 at 8:47 am #

      Terry McAuliffe is quite the accomplished Clintonista. Co-chair of Bill Clintons’s 1996 re-election campaign; Chairman of the DNC; in charge of Hillary’s 2008 presidential candidacy.

      His political motto should be: Incest Is Best.

      For extra credit (does anyone know:) how did this New Yorker become the governor of the Old Dominion state?

      • wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 10:14 am #

        I feel your pain. You seem to be squirming at the thought of 16 more years of Clintons in the White House.

    • wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 10:16 am #

      Yawn. Another investigation. More millions of dollars of taxpayer money wasted. None of the “investigations” have ever found Hillary guilty. So you now want to throw more money at yet another investigation. Such an irresponsible use of taxpayer money.

  52. wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 10:12 am #

    “Real polls shows Hillary hardly at 8%.” –finca

    7.9%?

    Were the “real” polls wrong in 2012? Were you sure Romney was going to win then? Do you know the meaning of the word “average”?

  53. Elrond Hubbard October 25, 2016 at 12:44 pm #

    Donald Trump’s super PAC promised a Chinese millionaire access, influence in exchange for a secret $2 million donation

    boingboing.net/2016/10/25/donald-trumps-super-pac-prom.html

    “Reporters posing as representatives of a Chinese tycoon approached Trump and Clinton PACs and offered them $2 million; only the Giuliani and Trump, Junior-backed Great America PAC agreed, and moreover, assured the fake Chinese benefactor that the origin of the contribution would be covered up and that he would have influence with Trump after the election.

    “The PAC is blaming it all on a rogue ‘consultant.’ The plan laid out by the PAC closely mirrored the money-laundering donations from Chinese millionaires Gordon Tang and Huaidan Chen to Jeb Bush, following the instructions for laundering offshore money set out by GOP kingmaker Charlie Spies in a leaked memo.

    “And the fictitious Chinese benefactor’s generosity would not go unrewarded should the donor a require a line of communication to Mr Trump if he became president.

    “‘We can have that whispered into Mr Trump’s ear whenever your client feels it’s appropriate,’ he said. After a telephone conversation with Mr Beach, Mr Benton said that the PAC wished to invite the reporters to a party the group was hosting in Vegas on October 19, the night of the final presidential debate.”

    “He later passed on a briefing on the event prepared by Mr Beach. Mr Benton warned that he would have to stay away from Vegas because ‘everything that we’re doing is legal by the book but there’s perceptions and some grey areas.'”

    Because Trump’s not actually a white nationalist, but a green selfist — he’s all about the Benjamins, a perfect stooge for fascists who don’t actually give a shit about honesty in government.

  54. FincaInTheMountains October 25, 2016 at 12:45 pm #

    In Iraq, American Abrams burns like a candle under the blow of ISIS-controlled TOW supplied to ISIS by the [other?] arm of American Government.

    youtube.com/watch?v=qBcS54xg0d4

    Good Job, Hillary!
    youtube.com/watch?v=S0UvJZmGTsk

  55. wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 12:51 pm #

    Trump is a fighter. He will fight the election results, demand multiple recounts, go to court, and by 2019 this election should be over.

    Hillary is a lover. Hillary will win. Love conquers hate.

    Trump is a litigious fighter. Litigious fighters who cannot produce facts lose.

    Trump will not sue the women he groped. Fighters who grab pussies are losers. They are defeated by nasty women who have pussies. These are the facts loser Trump ignores.

    • Buck Stud October 25, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

      One can safely assume that Trump will NOT sue his accusers and the reason why is DISCOVERY.

      • wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 2:36 pm #

        The same reason Trump did not sue the NYT like he said he would: DISCOVERY.

        It was fun, though, to see the NYT encouraging Trump to “bring it on!” … knowing that Trump is too afraid of DISCOVERY to follow through with his threats. Trump is all hat, no cattle. Trump is a paper tiger. Trump is a Loser.

  56. volodya October 25, 2016 at 1:21 pm #

    Ozone, you’re right of course about the general populace having no control over who gets nominated. As you say, the Machine makes the choice, the Machine run by people with money.

    Having said that, Jeb had nothing but money and he got flattened. And having said THAT, who gets nominated? A guy with money. I doubt he’s a billionaire but I don’t doubt he has money. More than you and me at least. Enough to take a year and a half time-out from life to make a go at this.

    And what does Hillary have? MONEY.

    System failure, in this case economic and political, is one that the people running the show have been blind to. They’ve been blind to it because they inflicted the failure and so won’t admit to it. But also because the failure has been eating, year after year, at places that the show-runners don’t go to, don’t live in and so don’t give a shit about.

    When failure engulfs Manhattan and Washington and the surrounding leafy, Whites-only enclaves, that’s when they’ll notice. But, by that time, for all their talk about the down-at-heels deplorables being “left behind” by the tides of modernity and globalism and trans-nationalism, it will be the touters of modernity and globalism and trans-nationalism that will have been “left behind”. The smug, serenely smiling Robbie Mooks of the world are most self-assured in their leadership of the parade but so smug and serene that they will be the last to notice that the parade collapsed into disarray.

    There’s only so much money printing the Fed can do to patch up a fraud riddled financial system. There’s only so much gaze-averting that bought-and-paid-for justice officials can do in the face of the most brazen criminality.

    You referred to it in your post. If you’re connected and if you can afford high priced legal talent you get away with the most amazing crimes. But only for a while and for sure not forever because, in the end, corruption isn’t without wider societal consequences. These people are sawing through the limb they’re sitting on.

    • dannyboy October 25, 2016 at 3:04 pm #

      “When failure engulfs Manhattan and Washington and the surrounding leafy, Whites-only enclaves, that’s when they’ll notice.”

      you know, volodya, that i respectfully requested that all comments regarding manhattan be reviewed by me before posting. Your comment is a perfect example of why that is necessary.

      You got it all wrong, again. There will be no failure here.

      We are successful.

      i’m sorry you can’t conceive of that.

      • ozone October 25, 2016 at 8:37 pm #

        Danny,
        Huh… guess you’ve never considered supply chains and the tight limitations of urban affairs. Perhaps living in the middle of something blinds you to its severe constraints? Try and consider what freedom/choice of *strategic* options rural denizens have that you don’t. Your plethora of choices can easily be cut by those that can control the access routes into the cities. Hubris always invites Nemesis.

        • dannyboy October 26, 2016 at 9:56 am #

          ozone,

          it is important that you think outside your own paradigm when projecting others’ future.

          imagine, if you can, that others have multiple dwellings. That these people also have options unimaginable from your perspective.

          Now, you can imagine why there is NOT failure in those futures.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2016 at 2:32 pm #

            Yeah but the conversation between you and Ozone was based on the post by Voldoya – and that is about Manhattan. I copy it below:

            you know, volodya, that i respectfully requested that all comments regarding manhattan be reviewed by me before posting. Your comment is a perfect example of why that is necessary.

            You got it all wrong, again. There will be no failure here.

            Janos again. See you mention Manhattan specifically and then end by saying “here”. Your attempt to shift your ground is a classic school yard tactic, but if you’re interested in honest discussion, you wont use such things. It’s fun to win, but isn’t it also fun – and valuable – to just talk sometimes and not turn it into a battle? Or if you do, to do so fairly without the “tactics”?

            To that end: In the War between the Sky people and the Dirt people you despise, they Dirt people are planning to cut the cities off. Roads, Bridges, and Power Stations – some of the key stations are located in remote areas and are not defended at all. You want to escape the doomed cities? Not on the roads, which will be jammed even if not destroyed. Private planes or helicopters? Very well, but remember, rural retreats will be vulnerable unless massively fortified.

            Did you think you were the only ones making plans?

          • dannyboy October 26, 2016 at 4:55 pm #

            just substitute “us” for “here” and you will understand.

            however your comment: “To that end: In the War between the Sky people and the Dirt people you despise, they Dirt people are planning to cut the cities off. Roads, Bridges, and Power Stations – some of the key stations are located in remote areas and are not defended at all. You want to escape the doomed cities? Not on the roads, which will be jammed even if not destroyed. Private planes or helicopters? Very well, but remember, rural retreats will be vulnerable unless massively fortified.

            Did you think you were the only ones making plans?” will never make any sense. I now believe that your hatred has become toxic and is destroying your self.

    • ozone October 25, 2016 at 9:21 pm #

      “System failure, in this case economic and political, is one that the people running the show have been blind to. They’ve been blind to it because they inflicted the failure and so won’t admit to it. But also because the failure has been eating, year after year, at places that the show-runners don’t go to, don’t live in and so don’t give a shit about.”

      V.,
      So easy, so action-reaction-predictable, so utterly see-able — yet unseen, unsuspected, unanticipated! …Maybe it’s not the lies that are projected outward that are the truly destructive ones (though they’re bad enough), but the lies that “TPTB” tell themselves that, in the end, destroy their own extractive webs. These lessons [as you outline] are not complicated, they’re simply clouded over by those that wish us to remain confused and distracted. — However, the dam is crumbling; how else the non-choice of Trump and Hillary? (Let’s just hope THEY continue not to give a shit about those who know about survival in the least/harshest of conditions.)

  57. Frankiti October 25, 2016 at 2:07 pm #

    Using the host’s logic, if you really like and care for Hillary you should vote for Trump.

    We shouldn’t have the otherwise monuments occasion of the election of a, ostensibly, women, (in a supposed gender neutral society, why does it matter, but I digress) marred by calamitous financial events that will destroy the nation.

    Let that happen to Trump.

    Vote Trump.

    • wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

      There is not a dime’s worth of difference between red and blue, according to CFN. So why vote Trump?

      Trump says he is winning. Trump says he is leading in the polls. So why vote Trump?

      The hypocrisy of people like frankiti and janos is revealed by their sudden interest in voting, as if a white nationalist pussy grabber would be good for our country.

      • Frankiti October 25, 2016 at 5:36 pm #

        Asokasalom Carol talks hypocrisy. It make funny.

  58. budizwiser October 25, 2016 at 2:22 pm #

    I have just returned to the mid west, USA, after spending a month in Europe. Most of my travel was Bavarian Germany and the Austrian border area. (in other words – the “mid west” of Europe)

    I’ve come home with additional, perspective on the plight of the US and it’s citizenry. Especially regarding the failures of leadership, and the ever growing obstacles to maintaining peak-finance, peak consumption etc…..

    To me -it seems that most people who post here think the US could right itself as a country and evolve into a world leader of techno-change for good and sustainable futures. We just can’t seem to get the “right people.”

    The comments from Europeans suggest we are just a bunch of fuck-heads – and Donald Trump is proof enough…..

    • wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 2:28 pm #

      ” the US could right itself as a country and evolve into a world leader of techno-change for good and sustainable futures.” –budizwiser

      This is absolutely true… even though it goes against CFN dogma.

      Thanks for the European perspective, budizwiser.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2016 at 2:37 pm #

      Many of them remain fixated on us even as they drown in the noxious Brown Tide of Islam.

      • wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 2:58 pm #

        Muslims are the indigenous residents of Europe. Muslim civilization was in European territory before Europe became Christian. Muslims are just engaging in right of return. I have no doubt that Christians and Muslims will work together to make Europe better.

        • Thinkgloballyactlocally October 26, 2016 at 8:19 am #

          Except the Islamic religion did not exist until 622 AC.. Does it mean any problem to you?

          • pequiste October 26, 2016 at 11:30 am #

            Thinkglobally…,

            Facts for wpa-ccc/Asoka/CarolNewquist etc.,are never a problem, even if they are just made up extemporaneously to fit her/his/its narrative or agenda or fantasy du jour.

            Don’t let it bother you as all regular CFNers know it by now.

      • Q. Shtik October 25, 2016 at 3:41 pm #

        Today’s NYT tells of French authorities breaking up the refugee camp in Calais known as the Jungle. It says that thousands are being bused to “temporary housing” elsewhere in the country.

        Is this crazy or what?!!

        I have $50 bucks says this housing will NOT be “temporary.” Send them back to where they came from and charge their country of origin for transportation costs.

        • Frankiti October 25, 2016 at 5:45 pm #

          $50 bucks [redundant]

          [that] says

          ..the plank in your own eye

          • malthuss October 25, 2016 at 8:31 pm #

            Temporary like the wars USA keeps having. Serial warfare, and undeclared. Yes?

      • malthuss October 25, 2016 at 8:29 pm #

        The comments from Europeans suggest we are just a bunch of fuck-heads – and Donald Trump is proof enough…..

        What a stupid ‘observation’—If Whites wont defend Europe as
        the women do not have many children, fukk em. Let EU become AllaHu.

        “The majority of American births from the past two years have been to non-White women.

        We will reach a point where the workforce will reflect this reality soon.
        At that point, it will become an issue of taxes being collected from non-whites to cover the welfare payments of non-working elderly whites with high medical expenses.

        That will be the point when the system is reformed and there will be enough votes to strip these whites of the things they paid into over their working careers.”

        Absolutely right. They also want to confiscate the retirement savings accumulated under tax-deferred plans, such as IRAs and Roths. The political groundwork has already been laid.

        zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-15/heres-why-and-how-government-will-borrow-your-retirement-savings

        politifact.com/virginia/statements/2010/dec/03/william-howell/virginia-speaker-william-howell-says-c…

    • Frankiti October 25, 2016 at 5:42 pm #

      This coming from a country experiencing a welcomed foreign invasion, an incompetent like Merkel as a leader, a TBTF bank on the ropes, and its largest manufacturer on the hook for billions upon billions in fines and lawsuits. Not to mention 2 lost world wars under their belt.

      Sometimes the source of an opinion is all that is needed to undermine it.

  59. wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 2:26 pm #

    “I don’t doubt he has money. More than you and me at least. Enough to take a year and a half time-out from life to make a go at this.” –volodya

    We don’t know if Trump has money. We don’t know if Trump has more money than volodya. Trump won’t release his tax returns. It could be that Trump is property-rich and cash poor, with more liabilities than assets. We don’t know because Trump won’t reveal his tax returns, not even his past tax returns, the ones that are not under current audit.

  60. wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 2:51 pm #

    “When failure engulfs Manhattan and Washington and the surrounding leafy, Whites-only enclaves” –volodya

    Manhattan is successful. Manhattan is majority-white.

    Washington is successful. Washington is majority-Black.

    There are no “Whites-only enclaves” … we are a multicultural society, by design, by law.

    We have rejected white nationalism, intentionally. The white nationalist, Craig Cobb, who attempted to set up all-white enclaves in the USA, has failed. All his attempts to create intentionally racist communities have ended in disaster.

    The USA is multicultural, multiracial, and interfaith. We celebrate diversity.

    bbc.com/news/magazine-25646954

  61. capt spaulding October 25, 2016 at 2:55 pm #

    JHK is absolutely right in his interpretation of whats going on. The conditions that have energized both the left & the right are the same. The only difference is in how they respond to it. Once the powers that be take control of the government, both sides suffer, although people may not realize that they are responding to the same circumstances. We are in trouble folks. The powers that be are taking control of the country. Actually, they already have control, it has just taken this long for people to realize it. I can’t think of another period where things have degenerated to the point that they have at this time. It seems to me that we are at a point in our history which will be looked back at as one of the turnings in our history. Being a pessimist as well as a cynic (is that redundant?), I don’t think that it bodes well for the future of this country. The average people of this country are not equipped enough to realize what is going on. I offer as one proof, the fact that JHK has had to solicit contributions to this web site to keep it alive. The people who actually pay attention to what is going on, and who are a minority in this country, regardless of their opinions, are people who are well read. Those who have read THE CAMP OF THE SAINTS, or THE FOURTH TURNING (as examples) or similar things, are few and far between. What we are left with is a country which consists of people who have stopped reading since they got out of high school. Your responsibility to keep educating yourself does not stop with your graduation. As an example of their ignorance, I offer the election and the re-election of George W Bush. There was never a president as stupid as “W”, and he was able to get re-elected. This is the country we live in. The people who frequent this blog at least continue their reading and self education, whether I agree with them or not. It’s hard to admit it without feeling like some kind of elitist, but we live in a country where the population consists mostly of dipshits, who are easily misled by the powers that be. I know that it makes me sound like an elitist, but I’m afraid that it’s the picture of the country as I see it. I don’t know if it has been any different in any country at any time in history. People tend to be the same, regardless of the time period. I’m afraid that we are being led by the fools. Gear up everyone.

    • wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 3:29 pm #

      “The powers that be are taking control of the country. Actually, they already have control” –Captain Spaulding

      Could you please be a little more specific? I can’t tell who you are referring to. Are you referring to Blacks, Jews, or Muslims, or who exactly?

      We have a Black president, but blacks historically have been slaves and disempowered. “The powers that be” have never been Black.

      If you could just name some names, instead of using vague and nebulous phrases, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2016 at 7:05 pm #

      Now finish your thought: Democracy is thus contraindicated.

      Objection: If the people were educated, it would be different.

      Answer: Education cannot make fools wise. Thus knowledge is wasted on most. In other words, only a few can be educated in a deep sense.

      How much have you read? Surely you must know the Founders hated Democracy? Now be humble – you didn’t know that, did you? Thus you’re not particularly well educated either. College is simply indoctrination at this point. As such, it tend to get in the way of real learning.

  62. capt spaulding October 25, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

    By the way, WPA is a politically correct idiot.

    • wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 3:20 pm #

      “By the way, WPA is a politically correct idiot.” –CS

      I was raised to avoid, if possible, giving gratuitous offense. And my Christian upbringing taught me to forgive. I forgive you, Captain Spaulding.

      We all have reacted impulsively at times and sent a rude and hurtful messages. Thankfully, due to multiculturalism micro-aggressions have become fewer and fewer as we become more civilized. Violence is decreasing. War (defined as more than 100 deaths) is decreasing.

      I was raised with the philosophy of “go along to get along” and that evolved into “live and let live.” The values of my childhood were conservative values… Don’t, for example, use crude language. Don’t, foe example, call someone an “idiot.”

      Back in the 1950s we called this conservative behavior being civil, being polite, having manners. Now those positive characteristics are pejoratively called “political correctness.” The good news is we are capable of change and things are getting better.

  63. wpa_ccc October 25, 2016 at 3:33 pm #

    “There was never a president as stupid as “W” –CS

    Now the Republican party has nominated another candidate for president who has questionable academic credentials.

    Donald Trump has aggressively questioned Barack Obama’s academic record, suggesting that the president was a “terrible student” who did not deserve to get in to Columbia University and Harvard Law School.

    While Trump has no evidence to back up these claims, there are strong indications that Trump has repeatedly inflated his own academic record — and that he used family connections to gain admission to the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania.

    “I heard [Obama] was a terrible student, terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?” Trump asked in an interview last month. “I’m thinking about it, I’m certainly looking into it. Let him show his records.”

    But an examination of Trump’s own academic record yields a distinctly unflattering picture of the celebrity businessman. Among other things, Trump has allowed the media to report for years that he graduated first in his class at Wharton, despite strong evidence that this is not true and indications that he was, in fact, an undistinguished student.

    Trump did not go to Wharton’s prestigious MBA program. Rather, he received an undergraduate degree offered by Wharton to University of Pennsylvania students. And Trump didn’t attend Wharton for a full four years. Instead, he transferred there after spending his first two undergraduate years at Fordham, the Jesuit university in the Bronx.

  64. dannyboy October 25, 2016 at 5:02 pm #

    Satisfying to this week’s Kunstler linked over at Naked Capitalism.

    • dannyboy October 26, 2016 at 10:04 am #

      for those who have not yet visited NC to review the reaction to Kunstler’s essay, here’s one:

      fresno dan
      October 25, 2016 at 9:12 am
      Welcome To The George Orwell Theme Park Of Democracy James Howard Kunstler (RR)

      I’m more comfortable about Hillary — though I won’t vote for her — because it will be salutary for the ruling establishment to unravel with her in charge of it. That way, the right people will be blamed for the mismanagement of our national affairs. This gang of elites needs to be circulated out of power the hard way, under the burden of their own obvious perfidy, with no one else to point their fingers at. Her election will sharpen awareness of the criminal conduct in our financial practices and the neglect of regulation that marked the eight years of Obama’s appointees at the Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission.

      =================================================
      There are those who think if will be total gridlock – my view is that gridlock only happens to the little people – the 1% always get what they want lickety split.
      But I not sanguine that the Clinton machine collapse will see the comeuppance of those most responsible – I think we passed the event horizon of the corruption black hole a while back…

      • elysianfield October 26, 2016 at 10:51 am #

        d,

        “– my view is that gridlock only happens to the little people – the 1% always get what they want lickety split.”

        Someone once said…”You can’t always get what you want…well you just might find… you get what you NEED!”

        I think, d, that you need a dose of reality…the golem is at your door.

        • dannyboy October 26, 2016 at 4:58 pm #

          i enjoy myself BECAUSE i enjoy Reality.

          You have distorted Reality and suffer.

          good luck

          • elysianfield October 26, 2016 at 6:39 pm #

            d,
            Good luck, indeed! You might save all that you can muster, rather than offering it to strangers…or is that part of your charity work?

            …3AM…you are wide awake staring into the darkness…you are vaguely unsettled, an ill defined fear…something or someone is scratching on your bedroom door…time to skedaddle to one of your many safe houses…call the limo driver…no, better fire up the helicopter on the roof…

          • dannyboy October 26, 2016 at 6:55 pm #

            e

            stay here in reality, will you?

            I reposted a comment from someone named “fresno dan” at a blog called “Naked Capitalism”. Are things now making sense to you.

            If not, I will explain even further, since helping is what I do.

          • elysianfield October 26, 2016 at 11:32 pm #

            I reposted a comment from someone named “fresno dan” at a blog called “Naked Capitalism”. Are things now making sense to you.”

            d,
            Let me get this straight…lets pray for Hillary, because when she is in office she will be blamed for whatever shit-storm occurs…and…and…those then in power will be shamed and exposed for the criminals they are…and…and…then the people will clean house….

            We give them absolute power over our lives so that we can expose them later? How about this…I’m gonna run away from home and live under a bridge…and then mom and dad will be sorry….yeah, I’ll get real sick, and then….

            Puerile horseshit.

          • dannyboy October 27, 2016 at 2:00 pm #

            e,

            now you are attributing Kunstler’s narrative to me.

            i can help.

            first, start getting people individuated. This will help.

  65. FincaInTheMountains October 25, 2016 at 6:40 pm #

    Michelle Obama: Hillary can’t even run her own house

    youtube.com/watch?v=-1t3aczmCXk

    What has changed Michell mind so drastically? Has it something to do with safety of her and Barak daughters?

  66. FincaInTheMountains October 25, 2016 at 6:49 pm #

    George Soros: Trump Will Win in Landslide

    youtube.com/watch?v=NHiFEw7BruI

    Do we have a first turncoat?

  67. Q. Shtik October 25, 2016 at 11:12 pm #

    With two weeks to go, Hillary widens lead over loser Trump to 8 points – wpa

    ============

    A week or so ago I read an article warning the Dems against complacency and pointing out something in polling history known as “the Bradley Effect.”

    In 1982 a black man named Tom Bradley was running for Governor in Calif and the polls had him well ahead, but on election day, much to everyone’s surprise, especially the pollsters, he lost. The theory was that when people were polled they would say they favored Bradley for fear they would be deemed racist to favor his white opponent. But once behind the curtain they went for the white guy. There is indeed much more nuance to this story than I am describing, for example that the polling vs actual election anomalies were only among those who had been claiming to be “undecided.”

    Also, the Bradley Effect is said to apply only in cases where there is a black/white racial difference. However, it is easy to see the potential that people favoring Trump (for whatever reasons) may not wish to reveal to a pollster that they are favoring an apparent nutcase. I have seen this playing out within my own extended family. My brother in law, Peter, is a rabid Trump fan (in fact he has already voted by absentee ballot for Trump). A few months ago he purchased (on-line) two Make America Great Again hats. He and his Uncle Ted (another fan of Trump) have worn these hats while grilling burgers on the deck but they are loath to walk down Main street with them on. They perceive “it could only cause trouble” in the midst of blue state voters.

    This Bradley Effect ties in with my own gut feel as to what we will see two weeks from now……..namely that however far behind the polls show Trump to be, he will do MUCH better in actual voting.

    What I would like to see happen the evening of Nov 8th is a vote count revealed on TV that is so incredibly close that Hillary and the entire editorial staff of the New York Times literally shit their pants….not figuratively…LITERALLY.

  68. Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2016 at 12:03 am #

    steynonline.com/7567/descent-into-evil

    The rights of Muslim immigrants trump the rights of Women AND the rights of Children. Otherwise how did a Muslim rapist with a “sexual emergency” get set free? Why? Because it’s not clear that the boy didn’t consent to it – even though he’s under the age of consent in Austria and he was in the hospital for anal injuries.

    Europeans have lost all respect for their culture, history, and their very selves.

    • pequiste October 26, 2016 at 12:30 am #

      When the big pendulum of culture and politics in Europe swings back (too the right) as that is the natural course of pedulums to do, it will return some of the “sterner stuff” to the great peoples there.

      For starters Norbert Hofer is going to win the presidency of Austria in the re-vote 4 December. It will be the tip of the spear for resurgent European nationalist movements and the beginning of the end to either mass immigration, the European Union and hopefully both.

      Then, in the spring of 2017, the French will get an opportunity to put Marine LePen into power which, upon her winning, would indicate that the sea change is well underway.

      If the conservative nationalist parties can be elected to power in Western Europe it might be safe to travel, once more, to a beautiful, clean, culturally great Europe.

      • tucsonspur October 26, 2016 at 1:25 am #

        That would be great peq, but what will happen here? If Clinton wins, will she embrace Muslims leaving Europe?

        All hemispheric borders may well be open, so they can blend nicely, move freely, create mayhem and then flee to Costa Rica.
        Maybe Uruguay.

        Sadly, Europe becoming clean and beautiful, with Clinton in power, could mean a faster descent for the US.

        I hope Q above is right.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 26, 2016 at 9:58 am #

      Janos, take it easy – if Hillary wins, you all be walking around with big tubes of Vaseline.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2016 at 3:27 pm #

        No lie – one Muslim asked his Imam if anal sex was permissible if it loosened the anus enough to hold a bomb. The Imam said yes.

        Seriously, if people are this repressed and screwed up, obviously death is not such a bad option, especially if it leads to a Paradise where they can do all the things they are forbidden to do here on Earth.

        • elysianfield October 26, 2016 at 6:46 pm #

          Hmmm,
          How many diamonds could Dannyboy carry that way…with a rabbinical dispensation thus? Perhaps this is where the term “buttload” originated?

          ” Paradise where they can do all the things they are forbidden to do here on Earth.”

          Well, if pederasty and “the infamous crime against nature” are permitted, what would, or could be considered forbidden?

          Inquiring minds NEED to know….

          • dannyboy October 26, 2016 at 6:59 pm #

            e –

            you continue to repeat that “rabbinical dispensation” reference.

            I previously explained, very clearly, that I required no rabbinical dispensation, because I have not trespassed.

            You, on the other hand wouldn’t even benefit if offered.

            also, why DO you keep repeating yourself? Is it because you have nothing to say, or is it because you feel that no one is listening?

          • elysianfield October 26, 2016 at 10:42 pm #

            d,
            Apparently because I have nothing to say…nothing to say.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 27, 2016 at 1:35 am #

            Did you read “Papillon”? Among the French criminal class, such a cylinder was called a “plan”.

        • elysianfield October 27, 2016 at 10:59 am #

          d,
          Remember Harry Truman? At a speech, one supporter yelled to him…”Give ’em Hell, Harry”! Truman responded; “I don’t give them Hell, I just tell the truth on them and they think it’s Hell…”

          The term “Hate”, like “Racism” is a cheap retort, one generated without value or effort, and certainly beneath the discourse on this site. Up your game d.

  69. tucsonspur October 26, 2016 at 1:46 am #

    Newt blasted Megyn Kelly and deservedly so. With endless coverage by the MSM, Kelly still finds it necessary to dwell on the bimbo breakout.

    Newt dared her to use the words sexual predator regarding ol’ Bill, not just Trump.
    She wouldn’t. While keeping her composure, she retaliated by telling Newt to deal with “his anger problems”.

    A good example of feminine deflective guile. But Newt got her.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 26, 2016 at 5:33 am #

      All-American bitch ‘n bimbo – Megyn Kelly

      youtube.com/watch?v=1RVqTfIKGbU

    • seawolf77 October 26, 2016 at 9:50 am #

      The difference is Bill Clinton never put out a tape where he bragged about being a sexual predator. If there’s a bimbo breakout, Trump brought all the makeup, hair spray, tampons and vasoline. He’s been putting out fires with gasoline.

      • malthuss October 26, 2016 at 3:38 pm #

        Not much of a difference, stupid.

  70. FincaInTheMountains October 26, 2016 at 5:35 am #

    We have another turncoat!

    Michael Moore Explains Why TRUMP Will Win

    youtube.com/watch?v=YKeYbEOSqYc

    • tucsonspur October 26, 2016 at 4:23 pm #

      Great stuff coming from Michael! Made my day.

  71. FincaInTheMountains October 26, 2016 at 5:42 am #

    Looks like Hillary finally got caught lying under oath

    newsmax.com/TomFitton/emails-fbi-pagliano-IT/2016/10/24/id/755088/

  72. FincaInTheMountains October 26, 2016 at 5:57 am #

    Britney Spears in concert “accidentally” flushes the crowd

    And Britney is not even a garnish – rather a raisin in a pilaf, where rice is a prediction of a third world war. And this is good.

    Because those who really wanted to start a nuclear war, wanted to make it a surprise for mankind. They seem to consider that only unexpected[ing] has a chance of being realized, and when now of nuclear is spoken out of every pot and pan, it is likely just the next sensation, besides slightly rancid.

    And freshness could be only one, and in this I agree with Mikhail Bulgakov.

  73. FincaInTheMountains October 26, 2016 at 10:18 am #

    If Trump comes to power in US, he will proclaim US a Katechon, as did Reagan and will blame all Satanism on Clintons

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katechon

  74. FincaInTheMountains October 26, 2016 at 10:24 am #

    Take away your lustful clutches from me, Trump!

    A well-known Russian actress and “defender of human rights” and great admirer of Hillary Clinton protests from hypothetical Trump’s sexual assault

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    Thanks God, she ain’t nude!

  75. wpa_ccc October 26, 2016 at 11:22 am #

    Qshtik and Michael Moore agree!

    .”M.Moore just brought every liberal to their knees with this epic rant proving Trump will win!”

  76. volodya October 26, 2016 at 11:57 am #

    Q,

    If this Bradley Effect has validity and if it puts Trump in the White House I will have to be hospitalized from exhaustion because I will have spent three straight days, November 9, 10 and 11, laughing my ass off.

    Michael Moore calls Trump a human molotov cocktail. We’ll see. As far as policy goes, talk is cheap and what a candidate sez is one thing but what he does in office is usually something else.

    Hillary sez she’s against TPP. Count on this, a President Hillary will support the TPP if and only if the likely result will be to export American jobs. Hillary is in Wall Street’s pocket, she is in the globalization-offshoring camp, to Hillary and her backers there isn’t a factory on American soil that shouldn’t be dismantled and there isn’t an American job that shouldn’t be sent to some foreign hell-hole.

    Moore calls the mid-west states the Brexit states. He’s right about that and he’s right about something else, nobody tells auto execs what Trump told them, that if they shut down American plants and moved them to Mexico, that he would slap them with a 35% tariff and nobody would buy their cars.

    But, like I said, talk is cheap. Let’s say Trump gets the nod but the tariff never happens, Trump is so far out of the Washington-Manhattan Consensus insofar as what can be said and done that he really would be a disruptive force. Never mind the Tea Party, imagine the Trump clan stinking up the joint for four years. But given that the Washington-Manhattan Axis works for a small segment of American society and actively works against the interests of everyone else, this would be a good thing.

    The problem of course is even if Trump really DOES get elected, how long will it be before a delegation of Pentagon Hats pays him a visit and suggests that maybe he take a long vacation?

    • Q. Shtik October 26, 2016 at 12:49 pm #

      Q,

      If this Bradley Effect has validity…………………………. even if Trump really DOES get elected, – Volodya

      ==============

      Let me make this perfectly clear (a phrase that I detest frequently used by politicians and pundits), I have not and will not predict the ultimate outcome of the election. But what I WOULD like to see is vote counts in several key states that are sooo close (differences of mere tens or hundreds) that it causes chaos, lawsuits and endless wrangling that extends beyond January 20, 2017.

      • sprawlcapital October 26, 2016 at 2:55 pm #

        Q,

        You have expressed precisely my half-formed thoughts on the election. I don’t like Trump, but I detest Hillary and her hubby. I want the election to be so close that “chaos, lawsuits and endless wrangling” follow Nov. 8. Hill and Bill deserve this.

        • elysianfield October 26, 2016 at 6:51 pm #

          Q and Sprawl,
          Oregon has already mandated that this election will be recounted, every vote counted by hand…wife works in the local election office…says that during the recounts there are several watchers of each party carefully observing the counting table…lots of pressure, no talking or levity of any kind.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 27, 2016 at 1:30 am #

            But who will watch the watchers? And who will watch them in turn?

            God is the ultimate witness. Minus Him, it all falls stage by stage like the Twin Towers once the charges were set

            Judge Moore is right. Take Him out, and by what will men swear? Themselves? There’s nothing there. Only He can say “I am”.

          • elysianfield October 27, 2016 at 11:02 am #

            “Take Him out, and by what will men swear?”

            The Prophet’s Beard?

          • Elrond Hubbard October 28, 2016 at 12:01 pm #

            “By the power of Greyskull!”

  77. volodya October 26, 2016 at 12:27 pm #

    It seems that the never ending pain-in-the-ass Deutsche Bank has been dicking with derivatives valuations according to Zerohedge.

    You remember, that’s the bank with tens of trillions of those things on the books. Seems that there’s an internal probe going on and the bank decided to share its findings with US authorities.

    Deutsche Bank apparently has as its general counsel Bill Clinton’s attorney. A good first step especially as this chap is also a former justice department official. So far so good.

    But maybe they also ought to take zerohedge’s advice. If they want this thing to go away, do the obvious, make a donation to the Clinton Foundation.

    I’d like to add my own personal advice, pay Bill a million or so to make a speech. If that appears too brazen maybe hire him as a – cough – “consultant”.

    Geez, what am I saying, after meeting Loretta Lynch on the airport tarmac just before Hillary got the all-clear, there’s no such thing anymore as “too brazen”. If there’s no way anyone will touch the Clintons anyway the Clintons might as well be corrupt in the open. Don’t bother hiding, just make the fixes and take the money right in front of the cameras and microphones.

  78. Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2016 at 2:54 pm #

    Newt tells Meg to shut her whore mouth.

    dailystormer.com/megyn-sic-kelly-btfo-by-newt-you-are-fascinated-with-sex/

    • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2016 at 3:18 pm #

      At the level of the Superego, Q is utterly shocked and offended. At the level of the Id, he finds it delicious. At the level of the Ego, he is vacillating between the two poles, unable to forge a synthesis. To do that, he would have to hold them both in mind at the same time. And this he cannot or will not do. He prefers to contain multitudes, nay to be a multitude. This is the only Trinity he worships – the drama of the Triune Man.

      • Q. Shtik October 26, 2016 at 3:36 pm #

        I have no idea what all ^this^ means but you make me sound like an interesting fellow……..more interesting, I’m sure, than I actually am.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2016 at 4:19 pm #

          Do you believe that Man is like an Iceberg – with most of consciousness beneath the water line of self awareness? That’s all I’m saying, that and perhaps you have a larger personal unconsciousness than most men of your age and socio-economic status.

          I’m sure you don’t know. “You” are defending yourself at a deep level.

          When you used to savagely attack me because of my racial beliefs, that was your Super Ego or Parent cooperating with your Id or Child. After a long time, your Ego or Adult finally got around to looking into the issue from a rational point of view. To your credit, the attacks stopped. Deeply corrupt people might continue to attack because it’s in their interest to do so. Your Ego may be smaller than some, but it is sound.

          Eric Berne’s system popularized Freud’s insights, with his Parent, Adult, Child corresponding to Freud’s Super-Ego, Ego, and Id.

          • Q. Shtik October 26, 2016 at 5:08 pm #

            Sorry.

            Still way over my microcephalic head.

  79. Cold N. Holefield October 26, 2016 at 3:09 pm #

    Vote counts? Are you fucking kidding me, you guys are talking about vote counts as though this thing is legitimate? Oy Vey! The only positive about Nov. 8th is that after that day, a day that will live in infamy right next to Pearl Harbor, this Bullshit will all be over and we can go back to non-stop coverage of Mass Shootings and Cops Shooting Black People until the 2020 Presidential Election Coverage starts later this summer.

    New World Hackers

    • wpa_ccc October 26, 2016 at 4:45 pm #

      Really, Cold? You think election news ends on Nov. 9? Election news will continue for at least a year with Trump’s refusal to accept the results, because he thinks the election is rigged. Trump can demand recounts and file lawsuits to keep the election going for at least another year. I’m sure the inside story of the so-called rigged election will be broadcast on Trump TV.

    • Q. Shtik October 26, 2016 at 5:15 pm #

      you guys are talking about vote counts as though this thing is legitimate? – Cold

      =============

      Buh, buh, but the NYT explained the other day why rigged elections are not possible….chortle, snort.

  80. Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2016 at 3:12 pm #

    foxnews.com/world/2016/10/26/canoes-reek-genocide-theft-and-white-privilege-professor-claims.html

    Elrond speak. These people want to be heard – so listen to them and promulgate their teachings. They’ll defeat themselves.

    • tucsonspur October 26, 2016 at 4:45 pm #

      Right. They’ll be up the proverbial creek without a paddle AND without a canoe.

      • elysianfield October 27, 2016 at 11:05 am #

        “They’ll be up the proverbial creek without a paddle AND without a canoe.”

        Or, as it has been said; ….”Up the Ganges without an air freshener….”

    • malthuss October 26, 2016 at 6:28 pm #

      I know what Indians in the Pacific Northwest did to each other and their slaves, including killing the slaves for fun.

      GO WHITE PRIVILEGE.

  81. wpa_ccc October 26, 2016 at 7:22 pm #

    Five inches of snow tonight

  82. Frankiti October 26, 2016 at 7:48 pm #

    It wasn’t a quake that shook Italy… it was Octavian rolling in his mausoleum.

  83. FincaInTheMountains October 26, 2016 at 9:33 pm #

    What is happening right now before our eyes is the agony of some pseudo-religious sect in the name of Hillary Clinton.

    And now I’ll take it upon myself to say that it is time to start thinking about the problems, which will arise from moving from the era of Clintons to the era of Trump. I would like to say to Putin era, but unfortunately Vladimir Vladimirovich is deprived of such ambitions.

    And in vain!

    The problems will be big. Trump will be an American president, not Russian, and US and Russian interests coincide not 100%.

    But humanity will have a chance to find a solution to these problems, while the rise to power of Killary mean World War III, in full accordance what was said today by Trump, violating another immutable law of political correctness.

    In fact, the Americans are asked to vote for or against the Third World War, and thanks to the Clinton propaganda in the heads of Americans firmly embedded the association between the priority of US national interests, represented by Trump and friendly relations between America and Russia.

    But now if Hillary becomes president all the same for at least one day, Trump will not go ambassador to Iraq or Afghanistan, but to Benghazi, Libya. Believe me that Trump had well thought and consulted with whom it is necessary, before making such a declaration which otherwise simply have not been noticed.

  84. wpa_ccc October 27, 2016 at 12:43 am #

    Hillary is not a political person like her husband Bill. Hillary doesn’t have the populist political instinct a politician lke Trump has. Hillary is a policy person, not a politician like Trump.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 27, 2016 at 1:11 am #

      She’s not right in the head as Huma has often said. We’re Romans now, with Caesars who are epileptics, sadists, perverts, and murderers.

    • pequiste October 27, 2016 at 10:55 am #

      The American Demoncratic Party’s 2016 candidate for president is a malignant, metastasizing, megalomaniac Machiavellian, marionette…

      and very poised.

      • wpa_ccc October 27, 2016 at 12:35 pm #

        Donald is Putin’s puppet. You don’t see any Russian links revealing Trump’s debts to Russian mobsters or Trump’s Moscow hotel scandals. All the leaks are designed interfere with American elections … to get Putin’s Puppet into the White House.

  85. FincaInTheMountains October 27, 2016 at 5:22 am #

    Do not fuck with Karma

    A young American by the name of Ronald Opus decided to commit a suicide. In the suicide note it was written, that he, Ronald, took this step due to financial difficulties and lack of understanding on the part of his parents (their unwillingness to help him financially). After writing this letter, Mr. Opus climbed onto the window sill and jumped down from the ninth floor.

    It is unlikely that he would have done it if he knew that the same day a team of window-washers was working on the house and they pulled a safety net at the seventh floor. So, flying two floors, Opus would have simply collapsed on the springy mesh with wet pants, but alive.

    But the Fate intervened in a fantastic way.

    When Ronald was flying past the eighth floor, his head was blown away by a shotgun shot out of the window. At the time, until the police established the identity of the deceased with the almost completely demolished by a shot head, detectives decided that the shooter should be charged with manslaughter. After all, if it were not for the shot, Ronald Opus would be still alive after falling into a safety net.

    Further investigation revealed new facts. It turned out that an old man on the 8th floor took a shot at his wife, but missed, and the charge hit the window. The detectives needed to adjust the charge – to add attempted murder (of his wife) to manslaughter. In moments of anger and quarrels with his wife, he always had an unloaded shotgun off the wall and frightened his wife by clicking the trigger. This was like a family ritual. According to both spouses, shotgun always hung on the wall and never ever been loaded.

    So, in accordance with US law, the charge of involuntary manslaughter is now lying on a person who secretly loaded the shotgun. But who! Knowing that freely enter the apartment of cocky spouses could have only their son, police detectives contacted his friend and found many interesting things.

    Knowing that his father often threatened his mother with weapon hanging on the wall, the son secretly loaded it, hoping that at the first scandal his farther would shoot the mother, and get jail time. However, for the past few weeks, the couple lived surprisingly peacefully which unspeakably grieved a would be avenger.

    Where is this jerk? – What do you mean where? – The old man was surprised. – The son lives upstairs…

    Yes, the desired son turned out to be … Ronald Opus! He had loaded the shotgun, and when his plan was not successful, in despair jumped out of the window. And he was shot by his own load, by his own father…

    Although the whole story seems like a fiction, it is a documented fact. Do not fuck with karma.

    This concept in one form or another is represented in all the religious and philosophical teachings. Even in ancient times they knew that who came with the sword, shall perish by the sword.

    ic.pics.livejournal.com/matveychev_oleg/27303223/1843080/1843080_original.jpg

  86. Cold N. Holefield October 27, 2016 at 6:44 am #

    elysianfield said: We give them absolute power over our lives so that we can expose them later? How about this…I’m gonna run away from home and live under a bridge…and then mom and dad will be sorry….yeah, I’ll get real sick, and then….

    Puerile horseshit.

    I agree. I take umbrage with this part of Jim’s weekly missive. That’s not going to happen. But, I agree completely with Jim’s assessment of Trump & his zealous Followers. It’s also Puerile Horseshit.

    “Woe The Country That Needeth A Hero.”

    If America needs a Hero, it’s already truly good & fucked. It means The Populace is impotent to do anything about The Predicament. The Establishment can do anything it likes to The Little People including offering you the Dilettantish Douchebag Donald Drumpf as your Hero & Savior.

    The time to have acted on all of this was 50 or 60 years ago, not now. Now is too late. All any of YOU can do now is watch & whine — and all of you get an A+++++ for that. Perfect Students. The Teacher’s Pets.

    • wpa_ccc October 27, 2016 at 8:58 am #

      “The time to have acted on all of this was 50 or 60 years ago, not now.” –cold

      Both and. I was both acting on all of this five decades ago and now, too. Against militarism and wars that have created our national debt of trillions of dollars.

      But I didn’t vote for Reagan, or Nixon, or Bush. Did you?

      • Cold N. Holefield October 27, 2016 at 9:47 am #

        No, I didn’t vote for any of the above — or below. If you were voting Democrat versus Republican the, or now, it’s a vote for More Of The Same, so, yes, you did vote for IT even though you didn’t vote for Nixon, Reagan or Bush.

        Authentic is not in your repertoire, is it?

    • elysianfield October 27, 2016 at 11:48 am #

      I have to say that I agree 99.9% with what our Host posits…month in and month out. He is able to define and further illuminate issues the majority of the site contend with, and he does so with sharp wit, barbed references, and unqualified intelligence. However, I am not able to see a tangential benefit if the results of this election go to Hillary. Hillary has already been shown to commit crimes and misdemeanors…the result? Well, there is no result. When the Shit storm comes, and she is perceived to have been all or partly at fault, what will the outcome be? A loaded Supreme Court, Hundreds of Federal Judges appointed, severely degraded 2nd Amendment, Political Correctness taken to new and exciting levels…the list goes on.

      Hillary has not even spoken to the accusations outlined in the currently released emails…she doesn’t need to. You will not hear of the accusations from the MSM, save Fox News or the Internet….

      We are truly screwed. I would love to see a silver lining in defeat…I cannot. I would love to think that our system of laws apply to everyone…Guess it doesn’t. I would like to think that Hillary has a shred of conscience, or empathy, or human compassion for the Deplorables she defined…hanging upon her the mantle of responsibility for the destruction of this country? She would wear it without rancor or guilt.

      I would now like to apologize to our host for my “strident” response…written poorly and in haste….

      • ozone October 27, 2016 at 4:41 pm #

        elysianfield,
        All the points you bring up are quite likely to become true, but I’m not sure you’re seeing the largest bull-elephant in the room: the destruction of the status quo. This means the withdrawal of consent by the [badly] governed to the point that tax monies cannot be collected, central diktats/laws will be roundly ignored and conscription will be resisted (yes, that will be coming back as freedom-and-democracy-spreading encounters more and more failures and “insurgents”). Central/Shadow government will strive mightily to govern over those who refuse to accept their rule, but in the end, it will be in vain and they will be left to bully each other in a land of ruin and fear. *This* is what will begin the sideways move into a World Made By Hand that JHK writes of. What will they be “in charge of”, exactly?*

        Try to imagine things (especially *Control*) being different than one sees today, and the possibilities begin to appear. …But first, you’ll have to discard the LEO mindset of “the civilians” obeying. Like it or not, you’re equally as expendable as any other of us plebes when push comes to shove comes to gunbarrels. How many will have to be killed to enforce compliance… and just how long will that last as the oppression becomes wider, deeper and more vicious?

        *The shame is, all this (contraction) could have been arrived at peacefully and thoughtfully, but I guess the vampirism has to run its course.

        • elysianfield October 27, 2016 at 7:22 pm #

          ” Like it or not, you’re equally as expendable as any other of us plebes when push comes to shove comes to gun barrels. ”

          Oz,
          No question regarding my expendability. I understand that the status quo will be disrupted…but to what purpose?

          A student of history would look at Stalin’s rule and understand the ability of the state to enforce order in extreme circumstances. Do not forget that the up-arming of our civilian police force was done with a purpose…

          Governments are rarely changed by force when the people are well fed, warm and secure in their homes(religion, of course, excepted). Outrage over the antics of our elected officials will not bring change…if it did, we’d have change now.

          Ireland…how many years the “troubles”? What has it gotten them? “Peacefully and thoughtfully” doesn’t seem to be the way of Humanity.

          • ozone October 27, 2016 at 8:07 pm #

            but to what purpose? -e

            Freedom… and all the bad decisions that go along with that; a reset, a re-imagining, a re-assignment of basic priorities for those with the luck to live through the empire’s death throes. (Not sure I want to be that ‘lucky’.)

            BTW, Nothing happens until the dire straits of starvation, hopelessness and extermination of family kick in. If you think a population under such duress can be controlled… well… you first. (Actually, I should amend that; *total* extermination eliminates the ‘problem’, but make sure to get ’em all.) It’s the “antics of our [s]elected officials” that will damn sure bring about these conditions if they continue in the present direction. The attempt at full-spectrum dominance should get plenty of fecal matter flung at the oscillating air-moving device.

    • Q. Shtik October 27, 2016 at 2:20 pm #

      …the [Dilettantish] Douchebag Donald Drumpf – Cold

      =========

      As many times as I have run across this word (not all that often) I have to look it up to remind myself what it means…….

      Dilettante:
      a person who cultivates an area of interest, such as the arts, without real commitment or knowledge:

      ….and Oh Boy! is this ever my brother in law, Peter.

      He tries to portray himself as a financially well-off sophisticate (which begins with a real Rolex on his left wrist) but his facade is betrayed in conversation by an endless stream of mispronunciations and malapropisms while comically delivering a convoluted version of world history.

      On cruise ships he attends art auctions and has purchases shipped to his home. When the ship docks and spills its captive load of suckers onto the jewelry-store lined streets of some god forsaken Caribbean island he will snap up some gold baubles that he is certain he will one day sell for way more than he paid. Every year or so he’ll attend an opera at the NY Met. His knowledge of art, gold and opera is as shallow as a paper pie plate.

      In the privacy of his own home the real Peter will gleefully watch Jerry Springer, Judge Joe Brown or Judge Judy which tend to feed his voracious appetite for anti-black culture entertainment. In his travels about the state he tunes in to a poor man’s version of Howard Stern who goes by the name Goombah Johnny. (Don’t know if this guy still exists.)

      As stated in previous comments, Peter loves Donald Trump.

      • Cold N. Holefield October 27, 2016 at 4:19 pm #

        Q. Shtik said: Oh, and by the way, Cold, what an extraordinary example of alliteration.

        Wow — thanks, Q. Shtik!!! You don’t hand out compliments too often. In fact, never. Not to me, at least — thank God. Today’s my lucky day. I think I’ll go buy a lottery ticket.

        • Q. Shtik October 27, 2016 at 5:34 pm #

          Playing catch up? That was a few weeks ago wasn’t it?

      • Q. Shtik October 27, 2016 at 6:09 pm #

        To further the image of clones…….there must have been something in the air in mid-1946…..Donald and Peter are both 70 years old. Peter is a notch above Donald in that he enjoys watching ACTUAL fighting where men pummel an opponent into a bloody mess in MMA cage fighting while Donald likes Pro Wrestling’s fake version of mayhem.

      • Frankiti October 28, 2016 at 7:52 am #

        Well, take solace that he is not trying to pass himself off as some virtual grammarian. A school marm amongst angry old white has-beens.

        Waging war against autocorrect.

        Ironic. Criticizing dilettantes in a nest of autodidacts.

        Besides, isn’t the politician, perhaps even the more desirable one, a dilettante by nature? An attorney turned leader is not the norm, here in ‘murica? A Johnny-come-lately not spoilt and degraded by a lifelong career in civil service or elected officialdom is not an ideal?

        There is cake, and there is eating that cake.

    • messianicdruid October 27, 2016 at 9:27 pm #

      Cold sounds like the hypertiger.

      He has a blogspot.com , lol.

  87. BackRowHeckler October 27, 2016 at 7:39 am #

    SAFE SPACE VIOLATED AT TEMPLE U!!!

    What a shock it must be for these pretty young coeds, lectured for years about white privilege and dangerous white men, to be suddenly put upon by 200 black youth … a surprise, hard smash to the face, collapse onto the pavement, many hard, relentless kicks to the body and back of the head … video exists of this delectable multicultural moment.

    Odd that no Networks picked it up? Have you seen it anywhere except in one segment of your local Philly news? Nothing to see here, really, just youths having fun, letting off a little steam, exacting a little (justifiable) revenge. That’s all. Do you have a problem with that, you racist?

    As for the young ladies that got beat down, hey, they’re not dead, are they? What do they have to complain about? Maybe their ancestors owned slaves, prove they didn’t. True, the parents are paying $50,000 per year for their daughters to attend Temple and might expect some degree of safety … but that’s where the concept white privilege come in. Why should you be safe when the residents of the Leviathan Public Housing Project next door live in a Hobbsean nightmare?

    brh

    • malthuss October 27, 2016 at 10:32 am #

      WHEN THE EBT STOPS, WATCH OUT.

      • pequiste October 27, 2016 at 10:46 am #

        BINGO!

        youtube.com/watch?v=NzspsovNvII

        • malthuss October 27, 2016 at 11:04 am #

          I saw that years ago. Those gals are so hood.

          • pequiste October 27, 2016 at 2:04 pm #

            Spay and neuter is the answer to the problem.

            Strongly support Planned Parenthood in every ‘hood y’all.

            (Can we get Beyonce, Jay-Z, Diddy, Kanye and the entire NBA to make public service announcements to that end?)

      • elysianfield October 28, 2016 at 1:41 pm #

        Malthuss,
        Do you have any specific information regarding the EBT’s demise?

  88. BackRowHeckler October 27, 2016 at 8:02 am #

    “Theres’ no indication that race is involved in any way, shape or form” — Lt. John Stamford, PBD

    (except all the victims are white, and all the assailants are black)

    Check out the video, an army, ragtag and urban, on the march.

    This is what the end of Western Civilization looks like, peak oil not withstanding.

    brh

    • malthuss October 27, 2016 at 10:10 am #

      In one small California city, over 120 city employees make 300,000 dollars a year, or more.

    • Cavepainter October 28, 2016 at 11:09 am #

      Once removed from organic origins (locality, native resources, technology and native nomenclature) all proclaimed ethnicity becomes reduced to conspicuous artifice against the democratizing circumstance of modern society “common law”, but in today’s political atmosphere of PC such “ethnicity” is pure theater of otherwise unwarranted special political demands, exemptions and entitlements.

      Good example is pre-sewing machine 9th Century desert garb worn today in such climates as that of England, and, of course, blanket demand that Western Culture’s secular law succumb to faith based law.

      • elysianfield October 28, 2016 at 11:18 am #

        “Once removed from organic origins (locality, native resources, technology and native nomenclature) all proclaimed ethnicity becomes reduced to conspicuous artifice against the democratizing circumstance of modern society “common law”, but in today’s political atmosphere of PC such “ethnicity” is pure theater of otherwise unwarranted special political demands, exemptions and entitlements.”

        Cave,
        Damn! I wish I’d said that….

  89. seawolf77 October 27, 2016 at 11:59 am #

    Probably that little town called Los Angeles.

    • malthuss October 27, 2016 at 11:36 pm #

      Try Pasadena, Huntington Beach, Irvine, Laguna.

  90. volodya October 27, 2016 at 12:16 pm #

    JHK sez that Trump did a dis-service all-in-all to the faction he supposedly represented. Hmmm, Maybe JHK is right.

    The failure to win the election is FAILURE. Defeat is DEFEAT, there’s no sugar coating it.

    But still. Trump may be beaten on Nov 8 but consider that he was up against the majority of the Republican Party, the whole of the Democratic Party. And Trump was speaking up for people that the Manhattan-Washington Axis and their hangers-on had long ago thrown overboard, those people now commonly referred to as “deplorables” whose only motive, according to the Great and the Wise, is racism and whose chief defining characteristic is stupidity.

    As such, given Trump’s built-in handicaps, losing by 5 percent to Hillary – who won by means of rigged primaries, supported by a Party elite that did the rigging, supported by a Republican elite that will not align itself with any other than plutocrat interests – would still be a remarkable outcome.

    Still, too bad about the loss. But the clock, as they say, keeps ticking. After Hillary’s victory, the people that Hillary represents, oligarchs and the white collar elite that serve the oligarchs, will do the expected thing.

    In their over-confidence they will over-reach and, just as important, they will under-estimate the people written off as ignoramuses. In this latter thing is a terrible mis-calculation. For one thing, millions of the ignoramuses have military training and combat experience and are armed. But never mind that glaringly obvious fact, the oligarchs and their clerisy will try to prop up an economic food chain that has no logic and can’t defy its internal contradictions. They depend on the food-chain and feed off of it but they inadvertently built it to fail. And, as successive financial blow-ups and the never ending cracking and snapping of the financial timbers show us, fail it must.

    • wpa_ccc October 27, 2016 at 12:43 pm #

      “Still, too bad about the loss.” –volodya

      Not really, volodya. We didn’t need a racist birther KKK sympathizer, who makes a habit of grabbing pussies and brags about it, in the White House. Thanks for playing, volodya.

  91. FincaInTheMountains October 27, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

    Elysianfield,

    When Trump will become the President of the United States, he will face such problems, that I do not envy him.

    The economic crisis, illegal emigrants, terrorism, conflicts with Russia and China, to which is added the conflict with Saudi Arabia and the Fourth Reich of Angela Merkel, if he tries to escape from the conflict with Russia and China in one piece.

    But the biggest problem will be de-Clintonisation of America as to solve any of aforementioned problems will require considerable intellectual effort and Clintonism hit hard the scientific method in the first place. (remember shut up and calculate?)

    Have you noticed how Hillary always says that Trump’s is being supported by brute, uneducated people? And there is some truth to it, despite the fact that Trump is being supported almost by entire Nobel America, with a notable exception of Nobel Prize winners for Literature.

    The fact is that college students since the mid 80’s in the first year, when their thinking is not yet formed, are being subjected to a powerful ideological influence of the lessons of English 101.

    The main attraction of this action (or if you want a hook) is to introduce into the heads of young men and women from yesterdays American heartland ideological poison that they belong to a particular caste of “Americans First”, then “Educated Americans”, then the members of various fraternities, well then … and then begins working principle “a finger got stuck – the whole body will follow”, and by the end of the college they are turning into zombies not capable of withstanding the Clinton propaganda that is forcing people to vote for outright criminal, in comparison with which even Catherine de Medici looks like a White Queen.

    Hello again, Buck!

    In fact, the Clintonisation is a Dulles plan for America, leading its origin from Senator McCarthy, but gained strength during the Watergate scandal, when it acquired a systemic character. And Clintonisation is extremely contagious, and rooted in the body of the American intellectuals, apparently transmitted by airborne droplets at conferences and symposia.

    • dannyboy October 27, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

      Are you so enamored of the United States that you can’t stop?

      • FincaInTheMountains October 27, 2016 at 2:48 pm #

        Danny, I was talking to a lady, it is rude to interfer.

        • dannyboy October 27, 2016 at 5:06 pm #

          pillow talk?

          …sorry, i didn’t see her

  92. wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 12:47 am #

    ELECTION FRAUD DETECTED!

    A federal judge blocked Florida Governor Rick Scott’s attempt to throw out tens of thousands of mail-in ballots, then publicly reprimanded him, several news outlets reported. U.S. District Judge Mark Walker issued a blistering caution to Scott’s top election official on a lawsuit about vote-by-mail ballots.

  93. wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 1:14 am #

    A federal court jury on Thursday acquitted anti-government militant leader Ammon Bundy and six followers of conspiracy charges stemming from their role in the armed takeover of a U.S. wildlife center in Oregon earlier this year.

    The federal government’s stranglehold over patriotic citizens… say what? Innocent? Ammon Bundy got a fair trial from the federal government? How is it possible the evil federal government did that?

    • Frankiti October 28, 2016 at 7:54 am #

      WPAsokabotsalom

    • elysianfield October 28, 2016 at 11:20 am #

      ” How is it possible the evil federal government did that?”

      Wpac,
      An evil jury of his peers?

  94. FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2016 at 5:21 am #

    To Trump supporters demand “Lock her up!”, Sandersistas reply “Berni her up!”

    Trump: ‘We should just cancel the election’ and declare me the winner!
    edition.cnn.com/2016/10/27/politics/donald-trump-cancel-election/index.html

    ‘There’ll be a revolution’: Trump’s Ohio supporters back him against the odds
    theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/28/ds-2710-trump-rally

    Oh, shiiiiiiiiiit! Now I see why Putin wants to retire

    • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2016 at 3:23 pm #

      Why can’t Putin run for the American Presidency? Obama did – and he was foreign born.

  95. sprawlcapital October 28, 2016 at 10:06 am #

    At a time like this, all that’s left is satire.
    ==============================

    To the tune of Henry the VIII, an old English drinking song made popular around 1965 by Herman’s Hermits:

    I’m Hillary the First I am,
    Hillary the First I am, I am.
    I got married to the Bill I adore,
    He likes Jennifer and Monica more.
    And ev’ry day there’s a Wikileaks,
    From my darn private server again.
    I’m your President now, I’m Hillary,
    Hillary the First, I am!

    Second verse, same as the first . . .
    ===========================
    If anyone in CFN-Land wants to edit this, I will be happy to share the 2017 Nobel Prize for Literature with you.

  96. Cavepainter October 28, 2016 at 11:19 am #

    Once removed from organic origins (locality, native resources, technology and native nomenclature) all proclaimed ethnicity becomes reduced to conspicuous artifice against the democratizing circumstance of modern society “common law”, but in today’s political atmosphere of PC such “ethnicity” is pure theater of otherwise unwarranted special political demands, exemptions and entitlements.

    Good example is pre-sewing machine 9th Century desert garb worn today in such climates as that of England, and, of course, blanket demand that Western Culture’s secular law succumb to faith based law.

    • wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 11:38 am #

      The only way secular law “succumbs” to faith-based law is through a democratic election in which a majority institutes faith-based law as the law of the land … which as law-abiding law and order people we will all obey. Inshallah!

      • Cavepainter October 28, 2016 at 12:23 pm #

        Uh,……in our republic, being true to the Enlightenment and particularly the philosophy of John Locke, the Bill of Rights prohibits domination by majority. Again, contrary to professions by partisan groups the US is not a Christian nation by law, secular instead — which is why our “diversity” of denominations and sects aren’t conducting religious war upon one another. Big difference from the hordes of “refugees” who Obama is flooding into our nation from cultures never having progressed through an Enlightenment equivalence.

        • wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 1:43 pm #

          “Big difference from the hordes of “refugees” who Obama is flooding into our nation from cultures never having progressed through an Enlightenment equivalence.” –cavepainter

          First, they are not “hordes” … they are individuals, many of whom are professionals, all of whom pass through a vigorous and extreme vetting that lasts, at a minimum, twelve months. I hope you never have to experience extreme vetting. It is not fun.

          Second, they are not “flooding” … the vetting process does not allow flooding. Your rhetoric seems to be intentionally inflammatory.

          Third, the “refugees” are not savages. They are intelligent people. They have values. They are capable of entering into and adapting to “Enlightenment” societies. They are smart enough, and moral enough, to not adopt “enlightened” societies’ practices of price-gouging, loan sharking, alcoholism, prostitution, gambling, and other activities of America’s “enlightened” capitalistic society.

          The proof of what I am saying is that we already have three million Muslims living in the United States. They are not conducting war on each other or upon us. They are net contributors and model citizens. They have chosen to live at a level of “Enlightenment equivalence” or higher. They do this in the face of great obstacles, often undergoing discrimination and attacks (often massacres) by white supremacists who have not embraced enlightenment values.

          • Cavepainter October 28, 2016 at 5:28 pm #

            “White supremacist”, do you mean the preponderant citizen majority that objects to being taxed to fund a campaign of “diversity deficiency remediation” dictated by the UN and the east coast liberal elite globalist? Oh, I forgot,…….”whites”, by definition, are to be denied the legislative protection drafted by elective representation.

  97. elysianfield October 28, 2016 at 1:37 pm #

    Well, Ladies and Germs,
    The BBC just reported that the FBI is reopening the Clinton Email iIvestigation…states that new Email releases have brought further information forward.

    This re-opening begs the questions;

    Do we have Due Process in this country?

    Is Hillary above the Law?

    Will Trump benefit from the ongoing investigation?

    Is there a God?

    Curiouser and curiouser…..

    • wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 1:48 pm #

      Why would “the powers that be” re-open an investigation only days before the election? Have they decided Trump should be president?

      You see, there are no “powers that be” controlling the strings. There are millions of voters (ten million have already done early voting) and no conspiracy or manipulation is possible. The populace at large, from which voters emerge, are now immune to the messages of billionaires.

      That is why you cannot say “selected” instead of “elected” … The citizenry is doing the selecting, not a shadowy group of super rich elites.

      • Q. Shtik October 28, 2016 at 2:38 pm #

        Why would “the powers that be” re-open an investigation only days before the election? – wpa

        ===============

        According to the talking heads on CNBC it is incorrect to say the investigation has been **RE-OPENED**. They say it was never closed…it is merely ongoing and continuing.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2016 at 2:46 pm #

        So you admit that Hillary may well in fact be guilty of everything?

      • Q. Shtik October 28, 2016 at 2:47 pm #

        There are millions of voters (ten million have already done early voting) and no conspiracy or manipulation is possible. – wpa

        =============

        Ohhh, please stop, wpa…..you’re making Cold N. laugh so hard his abs are cramping.

  98. pequiste October 28, 2016 at 2:29 pm #

    Let’s call it Hillary’s Halloween Howler: FBI re-opening the “email” investigation of the Demoncrat candidate for the preznitcy of the USSA.

    Obviously there is something so (unl)awful that it couldn’t wait for just apres election. Hillaryus.

    Apparently Bill “Bubba” “I did not have sex with that woman – Ms Lewinsky” Clinton did not explain the shituation to A.G. Loretta Lynch clearly enough. Hillaryus.

    Is this is enough to change the course of the election? Hillaryus.

    At least the apologists, news-presenters and pundits will have plenty enough grist for the propaganda mills for at least the next fortnight.
    Hillaryus.

    One media person – did not see his name – pondered the implications for a criminal indictment of a newly minted president-elect named Clinton. Hillaryus!

    Would love to be a bug on the wall over at Chateau Chappaqua!
    “Get those fucking retards out of here!”

    Wow, what a shitshow. Hillaryus indeed.

  99. Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

    Assange: Plenty more emails on the way. Next batch will get Hillary arrested. Is Obama trying to distance himself from Hillary, and thus now letting Comey off the leash?

    Meanwhile in Oregon, Fed Goons attack Bundy’s lawyer for defending his client. They were angry when the Jury freed a good man. They actually tased him for raising his voice to the Judge who wanted to detain Bundy because of something the State of Nevada might have on him. They can’t stand seeing a man just walk out scott free. That makes them feel like the petty losers they are.

    oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/as_trial_ends_surreal_scene_le.html

    • wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 3:10 pm #

      It’s too late, janos. Oct. 28 is too late for an October surprise. Hillary has too much of a lead. Anyway, people are sick of hearing about emails, even less those released anonymously, not corroborated as being authentic… and the FBI Director is Republican, appointed by Bush. What is suspicious about that? Too bad they waited so long, after ten million early voters had already cast their votes. The die is cast. Hillary is our next president. Loser Trump is toast.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2016 at 3:15 pm #

        Just in time. Halloween! Let’s play a trick on the children – and l Liberals and Women are children unfit to command.

        • malthuss October 28, 2016 at 3:54 pm #

          See my recent posts. Halloween is cultural and some dont get it. They just want free stuff.

  100. wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 3:13 pm #

    Pequiste, millions of votes have already been cast. Hillaryous! It is too late for an “October surprise” and people don’t care about emails… and Comey is a Republican appointed by Bush. How could it be more Hillaryously advantageous for HRC?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2016 at 3:21 pm #

      Good men are tempted by evil and evil men are tempted by good. Maybe Comey couldn’t live with the magnitude of the evil he was giving a pass to. Or couldn’t live with the contempt with which people now viewed him.

      • malthuss October 28, 2016 at 3:49 pm #

        Africans have even ruined Halloween,

        nytimes.com/2007/01/27/us/27race.html

        • malthuss October 28, 2016 at 3:51 pm #

          SBPDL—-
          “Halloween: Back when I lived in a subdivision, you used to see vans disgorging loads of negro kids from places like Inkster on our street. The ‘keeds” often didn’t have any costume at all, and would demand candy in an aggressive, irritating manner. AKA — Candy caravans. More ‘Gibs me Dat, YT.’

          Last year I just kept an eye on who came to the door.

          Normally the caravans come late so I just turn off the lights once the locals have come by. Another trick is to hand out toffee or root beer candies. Blacks prefer fruity candies just as they prefer fruity drinks. This is primarily because of genetics.

          Liberals will scoff at the idea of Blacks having a genetic predisposition to sweet foods. They will tell you it is all cultural. This is one of those areas where you can make a side bet to see who is actually “ignorant” of the facts.

          The gene for bitter foods has already been identified and is rare in West Africans.
          todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/tdjan2008pg38.shtml

          Race doesn’t exist so genotypes of hTAS2R38 must not exist.’

    • pequiste October 28, 2016 at 3:57 pm #

      It is actually still October where I reside and hence the perfect time for an “October Surprise.” That it came on the weekend before Halloween is even more appropriate.

      I know that the government is still interested, very interested, in the protection of classified documents, which covers hard documents as well as emails, servers and the rest of the cybernetic dimension.

      18 U.S. Code § 1519 – Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy

      Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
      US Code

      Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

      That James Comey is a “Republican” has little bearing on the case other than the fact he first discounted the evidence of tampering , destruction and illegal activities as they related to classified information and recommended to A.G. Lynch not to proceed with a criminal indictment. Now he has seen “something” that has caused him to re-open the investigation?? Shocker!

      It must be a gigantic, steaming pile of nausea-inducing trouble that the FBI Director must respond to – otherwise, really, why the bother?

      That millions have already voted shows a yuge weakness in the USSA electoral system.

      That this news breaks on a Friday is no surprise, but that there is this Mulligan is a great surprise and welcome news to those of us who HATE the Globalist push to enslavement of the U.S.A.

      Donald J. Trump is literally a bull in the china shop and most of the “vested” interests can’t stand the fact he will try mightily to break up their cozy club and vile system.

      Trick of treat to you Hillary and wpa-cc/Asoka/Carol/Newquist……….

  101. FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2016 at 3:15 pm #

    The BBC just reported that the FBI is reopening the Clinton Email investigation…states that new Email releases have brought further information forward. == elysianfield

    NSA is 100% behind that. NSA is rooting for Trump, not a shadow of a doubt. Would be hard for Killary to blame us, Russians, again!

  102. Cold N. Holefield October 28, 2016 at 4:21 pm #

    I know, I know, you think The Clintons are down and out with this latest Friday Offering from Comey (he sure likes Fridays, doesn’t he?). But, sources tell me, early next week, due to the incredible efforts of The Clintons’ Expert Investigators, a video will be released of Donald Trump raping a Circus Bear. They wouldn’t tell me the Circus Bear’s sex, so you’ll have to wait for that information. It’s a huge Game of Chess, isn’t it? Who will have the last Surprise before Election Day? Amber Waves of Grain. I’ve never been prouder to be an American? How about YOU — especially the Russians pretending to be Americans pretending to be Russians who are posting here?

    • FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2016 at 5:38 pm #

      I am not pretending to be anyone or anything – ask and you shall be answered.

  103. tucsonspur October 28, 2016 at 4:40 pm #

    New e-mails, and pressure from both within and without, gives Comey the opportunity for self redemption. Now, he reopens the prosecutorial highway after putting up the apparently irreversible roadblock.

    It seems that not much will happen before the election, but this alone will take more starch out of the political slut.

    Of course there is still the brown blob of a barrister to deal with.

    If Clinton is elected, and then criminally convicted, can she pardon herself?

    • Frankiti October 28, 2016 at 4:46 pm #

      Padon me and pardon her… a lot of sizzle and little heat

      • tucsonspur October 28, 2016 at 5:03 pm #

        Okay. But sometimes when there’s sizzle, it doesn’t fizzle. And sometimes when there’s smoke there’s ire, ire that turns to fire.

        • Frankiti October 28, 2016 at 5:16 pm #

          Fire can burn ’til election eve, but comes the day, comes the reprieve.

          Mystery ahead is whence comes the pardon.
          From the inmate or from the warden.

  104. Frankiti October 28, 2016 at 5:00 pm #

    Perhaps Soetoro is feelings the pangs of his conscience. He’ll write a mea culpa, they all do, in a few years time. He will let Americans know that they can add destroying the Clinton crime syndicate to his iffy legacy, and for postponing the election so as to let Biden or Kaine take tops on the ticket… least he could do. He always hated the bi@tch anyway…

  105. Frankiti October 28, 2016 at 5:10 pm #

    Hillary, once again, undermined by an unzipped Weiner

  106. FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2016 at 5:36 pm #

    When Trump comes to power, judging by his pre-election program, the first thing he will have to deal with will be the economic crisis, which the Clintonites will sure try to provoke.

    It was Hillary in 2008, when Obama was closing in on the White House, as a senator from New York provoked a global economic crisis, by drowning Lehman Brothers in the toilet for providing financing for Obama campaign.

    But Trump for this will need to change the economic model of capitalism and how it can be done without science?

    And there besides Stiglitz sit monsters that once threw John Nash into a madhouse, and then killed him with his wife, when they foolishly went to get the damn award for elliptic equations, which allowed solving the ether equations in quantum gravity.

    Solutions that will never be published until they will be discovered by someone else.

  107. wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 5:38 pm #

    Let’s see … emails were not written by Hillary, were not from Hillary’s server, nobody knows what’s in them or who wrote them … yet the “announcement” helps Trump?

    Comey specified that he does not yet know whether the new material is significant. And he explained the timing by noting that the investigators on the case briefed him of the new developments Thursday, and he felt that in light of his previous testimony, it was important to update Congress.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, denounced the move as “appalling” considering the timing, how little the FBI appears to know about the emails, and how little Comey said.

    “Without knowing how many emails are involved, who wrote them, when they were written or their subject matter, it’s impossible to make any informed judgment on this development,” Feinstein said. “However, one thing is clear: Director Comey’s announcement played right into the political campaign of Donald Trump, who is already using the letter for political purposes. And all of this just 11 days before the election.”

    “It’s too bad Director Comey didn’t take those gaping holes into consideration when he decided to send this letter,” Feinstein added. “The FBI has a history of extreme caution near Election Day so as not to influence the results. Today’s break from that tradition is appalling.”

  108. Frankiti October 28, 2016 at 5:40 pm #

    Per P.B:

    “And as the full-court press would begin with her inauguration, Clinton would have to deal with the Syrians, Russians, Taliban, North Koreans and Xi Jinping in the South China Sea – and with Bill Clinton wandering around the White House with nothing to do.”

  109. FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2016 at 6:39 pm #

    Let’s face it. Most likely the Clinton’s server was acting as a communication hub for passing secret information between Clinton and Saudi (and may be German) intelligence.

    From there it could have been passed to ISIS.

    Information including identity of US intelligence operatives in ME, schedules of the drone strikes, itineraries of US diplomats, including late Ambassador Stevens.

    One of the reasons why entire operation of killing Osama Bin Laden was done in total secrecy from then Secretary of State, and why in “alternative media” immediately appeared materials slandering the operation.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2016 at 7:27 pm #

      Another reason why CIA and US Army is so stubbornly keep hitting the wedding parties with their drones.

  110. Q. Shtik October 28, 2016 at 6:56 pm #

    I don’t think today’s Comey surprise was severe enough to cause wpa to shit his pants but I think he at least blurped out one of those nasty smelly wet stains in his undies about the size of a half dollar.

    • wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 9:31 pm #

      It is too late for Trump. The election is over. Hillary is the next President. Deal with it.

  111. FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2016 at 7:09 pm #

    Time for Hillary to try on Mata Hari’s clothes

    s.libertaddigital.com/2016/08/05/1280/720/fit/mata-hari-danza.jpg

  112. Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2016 at 8:22 pm #

    I warned all of you: the Rise of the Drumphs is inevitable and preordained by the Gods. But fear not – we will be magnanimous towards our fallen foes. You need but join with us by submission – and we work together for the good of all.

    • wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm #

      You were saying the polls were wrong in 2012… then Romney got squashed by the superior Black man.

  113. wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 9:36 pm #

    SLOUCHING TOWARD ELECTION DAY, HILLARY HAS LED CONSISTENTLY FOR WEEKS

    2016 General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson

    47% Hillary Clinton

    40% Donald Trump

    Tracking 221 polls from 42 pollsters, updated 6 hours ago.

    • wpa_ccc October 28, 2016 at 9:40 pm #

      Anyone fantasizing that “the polls are wrong” will be treated to another 2012 slap up the side of the head as the polis does NOT usher in President Romney or President Trump. The polls are right, just as they were in 2012, in spite of the dreamers and true believers who do not want Hillary and still think the “unshackled” Donald can win.

      • stelmosfire October 28, 2016 at 10:05 pm #

        Howdy WPA, how is it that your preferred presidential candidate can be involved in an FBI investigation and still be a candidate for the highest office? I know you have the answers so please be forthcoming.

    • Frankiti October 28, 2016 at 9:40 pm #

      Asokasalom Newquist

  114. wpa_ccc October 29, 2016 at 12:11 am #

    “Howdy WPA, how is it that your preferred presidential candidate can be involved in an FBI investigation and still be a candidate for the highest office? I know you have the answers so please be forthcoming.” –stelmosfire

    The emails are Not From Hillary, OR TO HER — And Could Be Duplicates!…

    Comey Says Letter Could ‘Create A Misleading Impression,’ YA THINK?

    Comey Admits ‘Significant Risk Of Being Misunderstood’…

    News Outlets Report GOP Mischaracterization

    Much ado about nothing, like all the other “investigations” of Hillary

  115. wpa_ccc October 29, 2016 at 12:17 am #

    The presidential campaigns of Democrat Clinton and Republican Donald Trump found common ground. Both camps demanded that FBI Director James Comey disclose more details about the emails and the bureau’s investigation, which he made known in a letter to Congress just 11 days before the election.

    “FBI Director Comey should immediately provide the American public more information than is contained in the letter he sent to eight Republican committee chairmen,” Clinton campaign chair John Podesta said in a statement that called Comey’s move “extraordinary.”

    The Justice Department typically avoids discussing investigations within 60 days of an election because “voters have no way to interpret FBI/DOJ activity in a neutral way.” He also noted that Comey seems only to comment on ongoing investigations when they involve Clinton.

    One former federal prosecutor said Comey acted “totally inappropriately.”

    “He had no business writing to Congress about supposed new emails that neither he nor anyone in the FBI has ever reviewed,” Nick Akerman, a former assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York, told Politico.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Comey’s statement “is particularly troubling since so many questions are unanswered.”

    “Director Comey’s announcement played right into the political campaign of Donald Trump, who is already using the letter for political purposes,” Feinstein said in a statement. “And all of this just 11 days before the election.”

  116. wpa_ccc October 29, 2016 at 12:31 am #

    We simulated a Nov. 8 election 10 million times using our state-by-state averages. In 9.8 million simulations, Hillary Clinton ended up with at least 270 electoral votes. Therefore, we say Clinton has a 98.0 percent chance of becoming president.

    98% … Clinton

    2% … Trump

    Possible Electoral Vote Counts

    When you vote, you don’t elect the president: You tell your state’s electoral-college electors how to vote. In most states, all electors vote with the state’s popular opinion. If 51 percent of voters in California choose Hillary Clinton, all 55 of California’s electors will vote for Clinton — and none will vote for Donald Trump.

    (Historically, a few so-called faithless electors have voted against popular opinion. They have never changed the outcome of an election.)

  117. wpa_ccc October 29, 2016 at 12:35 am #

    THE END OF CONGRESSIONAL GRIDLOCK IS AT HAND

    “I think there’s going to be an obligation to show that Trumpism is not a complete equivalent for GOP,” Kaine said in an interview Thursday. “And I think, in that moment, when they’re trying to demonstrate that, there’s going to be some opportunities to get some wins right out of the gate.”

    “They’re going to need to show GOP does not equal Trump,” he said.

    And does he think the fever will break?

    “I believe it will,” he said.

  118. BackRowHeckler October 29, 2016 at 7:22 am #

    This election cycle is becoming interestinger and interestinger.

    Hey, but they’re all interesting in their own way, going back to about 1800.

    Meanwhile, world altering events are transpiring in Aleppo and Mosul. Heard anything about it? The fact that Mosul is not forefront in the news may mean the battle to clear our ISIS, to crush them in Iraq, is not going so well. Russia has ceased bombing Aleppo for the time being, a brief respite while bomber command rests up and rearms, and the Russian fleet arrives in the Eastern Med to deliver a final crushing blow to rebel forces (whoever they are, its not clear).

    But who gives a sh-t about that? Donald Trump is wont to grab a handfull of ass if the situation presents itself, and is not adverse to pressing his advantage with the ladies his billionaire status gives him. So they say, nothing has been proven.

    brh

  119. BackRowHeckler October 29, 2016 at 7:33 am #

    What’s Huma’s status when Hillary is elected? First Lady? Muslim Brotherhood’s man in the West Wing? Chief Factotum? We have disasters bearing down upon us from many directions and on many levels, which is not to say the entertainment value of another Clinton presidency will not be something to behold.

    I know I’m looking forward to it, specially the way the syncopant MSM will have to twist themselves up like pretzels to present everything in a good light, relinquishing any legitimacy they might have left.

    brh

    • FincaInTheMountains October 29, 2016 at 10:14 am #

      What’s Huma’s status when Hillary is elected?

      Well, that one is no brainer. She’ll be the communication officer between Hillary and Saudi intelligence, making sure that radical Islamisation of US going well and according to the plan.

      Just like Ed Snowden, who’s a communication officer between Putin and Obama, now when Obama is in captivity, between Putin and NSA.

    • malthuss October 29, 2016 at 11:02 am #

      First Lesbian?

  120. Cold N. Holefield October 29, 2016 at 9:57 am #

    Here are your choices for POTUS this year, folks.

    Republicans — Vladimir Putin

    Democrats — King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud

    The America you knew, or thought you knew, is LONG GONE and YOU will NEVER get it BACK!! NEVER.

    The following comment posted above by wpa is as sick as anything Janos has ever posted at this site when you consider what Huma Abedin’s mother has done and what she represents. Obama’s several month-long trip to Pakistan in his youth makes total sense when you dig beneath the surface. The Alphabet Agencies are complicit in destroying America, if there ever was an America, in its entirety. They are the Alien Invasion from Outer Space. They are not Human. They are trained and taught to be Inhuman and they have sold Americans to the highest bidder. Send them all to Mars with Elon Musk. Give them a planet of their own. WE DON”T WANT THEM HERE ANY LONGER. THEY are a threat to all life on this planet, human or otherwise. Traitors to the Universe. Leave now, you SCUMBAGS. You don’t deserve to exist in this realm or any realm. You’re destroyers of lives. Destroyer of souls. Destroyers of Human Potential. You are reviled. I spit in every one of your faces, you disgusting, toxic, tarnishing, tempestuous traitors. If I believed in curses, I’d curse every single one of you to an eternal life of unimaginable, excruciating damnation. You deserve nothing better.

    • Cold N. Holefield October 29, 2016 at 10:01 am #

      wpa said: The only way secular law “succumbs” to faith-based law is through a democratic election in which a majority institutes faith-based law as the law of the land … which as law-abiding law and order people we will all obey. Inshallah!

    • FincaInTheMountains October 29, 2016 at 10:20 am #

      Take it easy, Cold. Putin definitely does not have such aspirations, regarding Saudis, NSA is keeping a close tab on the fuckers.

      Everything is developing in the right direction, time to make plans of overcoming economic crisis. Plenty of work ahead. I am excited!

    • Janos Skorenzy October 29, 2016 at 4:22 pm #

      I agree completely. Liberal Egalitarian Capitalism/Communism (where some are more equal than others) leads to complete break down and madness. It’s against the Laws of Life. Naturally strong men like Trump, Putin, and Hitler arise to fight for Life and the silent people who suffer.

      The real question is why this torments you so. You see the problem but hate the solution. That is symptomatic of being stuck at an earlier stage of Liberalism. You are stuck there and can’t understand why it didn’t work. It couldn’t have. It was itself part of the downward process. Materialism is degenerative. Nations aren’t supposed to be markets. Have a market is great, but not be one. There must also be the Vineyard…. And yes Chold, the Vineyard should dominate the Market. And yes, in our terms, that means stores close on Sundays and Holidays.

  121. FincaInTheMountains October 29, 2016 at 10:59 am #

    The matter of fact is the NSA is at the helm of a brand new branch of Financial Power – Financial Control – built by President Obama during his 7 years in office, on par with other two competing branches – London Money Changers (international brokerage and currency exchange) and Manhattan Pirates (emittance of dollar as a universal world currency).

    By electronically tracking every financial transaction in the world, they are fulfilling an absolutely crucial for the world economy task – making su