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Idiocy and mendacity are a bad combo in the affairs of nations, especially in elections. The present case in the USA displays both qualities to near-perfection: on one side, a boorish pseudo-savior in zero command of ideas; on the other side, a wannabe racketeer-in-chief in full command of her instinctive deceit. Trump offers incoherent rhetoric in opposition to the current dismal order of things; Clinton offers empty, pandering rhetoric in defense of that order. Both represent an epic national drive toward political suicide.

The idiocy and mendacity extend to the broad voting public and the discredited elites pretending to run the life of the nation. The American public has never been this badly educated and more distracted by manufactured trivia. They know next to nothing. Even college seniors can’t name the Secretary of State or find Switzerland on a map. They don’t know in what century the Civil War took place. They couldn’t tell you whether a hypotenuse is an animal, a vegetable, or a mineral. Their right to vote is a danger to themselves.

The elites operate in their own twilight zone of ignorance, only at a loftier level, flying on wings of sheepskin. Submitted for your approval: Harvard wizard Kenneth Rogoff’s new book, The Curse of Cash. This is the latest salvo in the international campaign to herd all money into the control of central banks and central governments, supposedly to make central planning of the economy more effective — but really for the purpose of extending the fallacy that the mis-pricing of credit and collateral (that is, of everything) can save the current incarnation of crony capitalism, and more to the point, save the fortunes of the racketeers running it, along with the reputations of their intellectual errand boys. Henceforth, all “money” transactions would be traceable, allowing unprecedented power for authorities to regulate the lives of citizens.

It remains to seen whether the American public might be snookered into this scheme, which already has some traction in Europe. Of course, Europe is headed into some interesting political heavy weather of its own in the months ahead, and there is plenty of reason to think that even the docile people of Denmark and Sweden might eventually revolt against the central bank regime if they see the Germans do it.

Aggravating matters is the hyper-complexity of our current financial arrangements, much of it in the service of deliberately mystifying the masses. Does the public understand the rationale behind zero interest rate policy (ZIRP)? Not any more than they understand the interaction of gluons and quarks or the doctrine of the Holy Trinity. It is one of the abiding mysteries of our time, for instance, that a group like AARP, purporting to represent the interests of retired persons, has offered not a peep of pushback to ZIRP, which has pounded retired people dependent on savings into penury. Of course, this might be explained by the pervasive racketeering feature of our current national life: AARP is an insurance racket masquerading as a citizen interest group. Or, stretching credulity to suppose that AARP is honest, perhaps the org’s executives don’t understand that zero interest on savings equals zero income to savers.

Kenneth Rogoff tries to justify his war on cash by invoking two of the era’s favorite bogymen: terrorists and drug dealers. Cash, he says, allows this axis of evil to do its thing(s). This is a ruse, of course. If currency is eliminated, these outfits will turn to gold and silver, it’s that simple. And so will everybody else, by the way. The real reason to abolish cash and herd all money into central banks is to permit the authorities to confiscate it one way or another, either by unavoidable taxation or by “bail-ins” — declaring deposits to be “unsecured loans” that can be repudiated in the event of a financial “accident.”

The results are already in for this experiment: “money” becomes more and more dishonest, that is, it cannot be trusted to represent what it pretends to stand for: an index of account and a store of value. Its role as the basis of capital formation is so impaired that real capital (i.e. wealth) cannot be generated, meaning that none of the credit issued as “money” will ever be paid back. Zero interest rate policy eventually equals zero principal paid. “Money” based on loans that won’t be paid back loses its legitimacy. Herding all the “money” onto central bank computers only allows for more three-card-monte maneuvers to conceal the bezzle. It would be much harder to hide the destruction of value in circulating paper currency. Eliminating currency as a medium of exchange can only lead to the repudiation of “money” — which will beat a quick path to the repudiation of all authority. And there is your recipe for really suicidal political disorder.

One more thing this week: why exactly are America’s Clinton-invested political elites inveighing so strenuously against Russia and its president, Mr. Putin? The US has gone out of its way to provoke Russia militarily the past several years. We foolishly sponsored the revolution in Ukraine that has left it a failed state — and which prompted Russia to reclaim the Crimea, historically its own territory and the site of its strategically crucial warm water ports. We continue to run NATO war game exercises along Russia’s borders. We fly surveillance planes in their airspace and then act surprised when Russia sends up fighters to remind us where we are. We hold naval exercises in the Black Sea and wonder why the Russians buzz us. Are we out of our minds? How would we act if the Russians flew their planes over Catalina Island or held naval war games off Hampton Roads? Who does the US policy elite think they’re kidding?

These memes in financial and foreign policy are dangerously crazy and dishonest. They are doing a good job of making the US political establishment look like a claque of fools and outlaws, and laying a red carpet for the election of Trump, the fake savior… the apotheosis of the fabled Greater Fool.

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  1. nwcodetalker September 12, 2016 at 9:20 am #

    The post from last week disappeared? Sort of like Hillary?

    • malthuss September 12, 2016 at 9:36 am #

      Which post [s]?

      • dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 10:24 am #

        If my Comments “went missing” i’m suing somebody

        …or everybody!

      • nwcodetalker September 12, 2016 at 6:47 pm #

        The one entitled ” A pleasant interlude”.

    • Cold N. Holefield September 12, 2016 at 9:36 am #

      This Election Cycle is so bizarre, it reminds me of The Soviet Union after Brezhnev Kicked the Bucket. They carted out two Weekend At Bernie candidates in succession to try and fill his shoes and pretend The Soviet Union wasn’t running on fumes, namely Andropov & Chernenko before Gorbachev. Hillary is the Weekend At Bernie’s candidate because I really think she’s dead and they’re using Smoke N Mirrors to make it look like she’s alive, and of course, we have the Clown Trump and his Posse for a little levity compared to The Soviet Union’s lack of sense of humor prior to its demise. America is running on fumes and it’s set to collapse just as The Soviet Union was. It’s just a matter of when, and I think the when is soon.

      Here’s two of my latest offerings. Enjoy.

      American Military A Suicide Cult?

      Comply And/Or Die

      • outsider September 12, 2016 at 11:48 am #

        By now most of us have probably viewed the tape of a heat stricken Hillary (it was less that 80 degrees in NYC at the 9/11 ceremony) being helped into her limo by several secret agents. Right before entering they appeared to drop her and she went down like a rag doll. I was thinking of “Weekend at Bernie’s” myself. At the last minute another agent stepped in to block the view and spare her further indignity. Rumor was she was out cold and had to be dragged in. Now her campaign is admitting she has pneumonia. But the nagging question is: What else about her health are they hiding?

      • Sticks-of-TNT September 12, 2016 at 7:36 pm #

        I read your blog. Nice job Cold.

        Sticks

        P.S. ‘Papillon’ is my favorite movie!

    • Neon Vincent September 12, 2016 at 9:39 am #

      I’m still seeing it on the blog page, so it’s still there for me. As for Hillary, she’ll be back. A little pneumonia won’t keep her down.

      Speaking of presidential candidates, Donald Trump and Jill Stein visited Detroit a week ago last Saturday. Trump got lots of protesters to demonstrate against him, while Stein played bongos for former Detroit City Council member Martha Reeves (“Dancing in the Streets” optional) before speaking about her Green New Deal. I was afraid she’d be completely eclipsed by Trump in the local media, but at least one newspaper covered her.

      In other potential disasters, North Korea tested a fifth nuclear device last week. I mocked “Kim Young One” with a drink that tastes like vomit, and might make one barf, too. It’s exactly what he deserves!

      • seawolf77 September 12, 2016 at 9:58 am #

        How can a little tin pot dictator have the bomb, but Saudi Arabia doesn’t? Look at the 9 countries that supposedly have the bomb. Notice anything funny? No Arab countries.

        • elysianfield September 12, 2016 at 10:25 am #

          Wolfie,
          Did you not once opine that Atom Bombs did not work?

          • seawolf77 September 12, 2016 at 2:53 pm #

            Yes I did. I was pointing this out to highlight the countries that purportedly have nuclear weapons does not make sense except in the Arabs cannot get nuclear weapons because they will use them as terrorist weapons scenario.

          • Dumbedup September 12, 2016 at 10:21 pm #

            Everything was faked with all those tests in the 40s and 50s and N. Korea is now bluffing with something they know we know is false?

        • uslabor September 12, 2016 at 12:51 pm #

          Nor any Latin American countries, neither. MSM (NPR), finally acknowledged that Kim is seeking a nuclear weapon so he “wont be pushed around” by the USA. Up until now MSM just banged the “he’s insane” drum.

          The USA and our allies LEVELED North Korea during the war there. Some memories in North Korea haven’t forgotten.

        • JimInFlorida September 12, 2016 at 1:01 pm #

          I very seriously doubt that the DPRK has a nuclear fusion bomb. I feel certain that they have a working fission bomb, though.

          North Korea definitely has the industrial and scientific capability to make a 1950’s vintage Uranium fission bomb. Only China can help them make a fusion bomb but, I hope Beijing won’t do anything that stupid.

          I highly doubt that North Korean rockets can launch their 1950’s fission bombs into a high enough orbit to reach the U.S. They could definitely heave such a warhead into Japan, though.

          As for Saudi Arabia, it is a kingdom of worthless people and run by Dönmeh Jews at the top. If they aren’t GIVEN something that requires skill to make, they they won’t have it. They can’t even make an ordinary stick of dynamite by themselves, let alone a nuclear weapons and all the industrial infrastructure that they require.

          • Sticks-of-TNT September 12, 2016 at 7:50 pm #

            I resemble that remark!

            -Sticks

    • SteveO September 12, 2016 at 10:06 am #

      Hillary disappear? We could be so lucky.

    • newworld September 12, 2016 at 10:21 am #

      Weekend at Bernie’s (Hillary)

    • dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 10:22 am #

      not all my Comments!

    • S M Tenneshaw September 12, 2016 at 3:56 pm #

      On my computer, it’s still there – along with the comments.

    • Layne September 12, 2016 at 9:43 pm #

      The corrupt to the core, flying reptile Hillary is on life support, from looking at her one might think she’s already dead.

      Trump is right, the demoncraps and republitards have done nothing.

      Give Trump a shot, if it doesn’t work, roll out the guillotines.

    • Bigskyguy58 September 14, 2016 at 5:23 pm #

      My question is simple. But before I ask I must let who ever replies to me know a few things. I have been following JHK for a number of years. I own many of his books.

      I do not always agree with him on all he has to say, but I do agree with him on quite a bit. Now, my question.

      ——————————————————————————–
      Since we know that our own government is never going to do the right things that JHK has talked about for sometime to right our sinking ship called MV USA, and well know that sooner or later, we will wake up one morning and turn on the news and see flat out pandemonium on the floor of the NY Stock Exchange and the TV

      screens split to London/Tokyo etc and this entire $$$$$ financial cards has fallen inside itself, what does any of my fellow americans think is the best way to keep our nation from sinking? and if we cannot keep it from sinking, what do you recommend one does once it all sinks?

      • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 6:12 pm #

        improve you personal priorities so that “$$$$$ financial cards are not so important.

        you know: (1) family, (2) friends, (3) community, (4) personal goals…

  2. Lawfish September 12, 2016 at 9:35 am #

    Some of us are already preparing for the abolition of cash. Personally, I do a lot of bartering. I am good at catching fish producing eggs and making beer/cider. I lack the patience to hunt. So I trade surplus fish, eggs and beer for venison and other necessities.

    I suppose gold and silver coins will once again be the medium of exchange used for most local transactions. ‘Twould be nice, as the feds can’t devalue gold and silver.

    • malthuss September 12, 2016 at 9:36 am #

      What country and county are you in?

    • Beryl of Oyl September 12, 2016 at 1:13 pm #

      60 Minutes did a recent propaganda piece on how wonderful it is that in Kenya they just text money. I think we are supposed to hang our head in shame that Kenya is ahead of us.
      I wrote more on the cash/government tracking topic in my first comment which I accidentally made go poof!

    • JimInFlorida September 12, 2016 at 1:14 pm #

      I used to believe in Gold and Silver. In the late 1970’s, the smell of illegitimacy began to waft over that asset as the U.S. Treasury abandoned it.

      If you believe in Precious Metals, take your coins to the grocery store and see how much you can buy with them. Take your gold coins to buy a car and see if a car dealer will take them in trade. Take your coins to the Tax Collector and see if they will take them for tax payment. Take your gold coins to the County seat and see if they will grant you Allodial Title to your land in exchange for the equivalent price in gold!

      Your gold and silver value will instantly become ZERO.

      You are entirely at the cruel mercy of coin dealers and other dupes. You will only get what they are willing and able to pay for. The dealers, especially, will clip at least 3% from the coins, coming and going. Private buyers will argue about the spot price and not offer you one cent more. There aren’t enough hard core coin junkies who actually care about mint marks and desirable stains.

      U.S. cash is your best friend. It is backed by the barrel of a gun and all the lies that can be stuffed into the breech.

      • unirealist September 12, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

        You’re wrong. In the first place, US gold and silver coins have face values right on them, plain as day. They are just as spendable as paper money. An ounce of gold buys fifty dollars worth of groceries, and an ounce of silver buys a dollar’s worth.

        The only reason people don’t spend them like that is because by common agreement they are worth more than that as a store of value.

        In the second place, they actually ARE spendable at their true value, as you would know if you ever tried doing it. You just have to step outside the mainstream retailers.

        For example, back in the 90’s I bought a $5000 car from a used car dealer for half cash and half gold eagles. They accepted the gold at spot price.

        I am quite sure that you could also use such coins at antique stores, flea markets, or in black market transactions–which go on in every town and city in the US., in the same way as I did at the car lot.

        • dolph9 September 12, 2016 at 4:38 pm #

          Being somewhat of a gold bug myself, I think you miss the point.

          In our world, only currency matters on a day to day basis. Gold is not spendable.

          If you actually had to use precious metals, you would completely deplete them if you needed water, food, shelter, electricity, education, healthcare, tools, transportation, and yes even entertainment…all of the things associated with life in a modern industrial economy.

          I wish I hadn’t listened to the gold bugs.

          • Bigskyguy58 September 14, 2016 at 5:24 pm #

            But what happens once paper money is all but worthless?

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 6:50 pm #

            different things, depending on the other circumstances.

            personally i plan to use it for bookmarks; i’m a voracious reader

        • JimInFlorida September 12, 2016 at 7:22 pm #

          You MUST be brainwashed or deluded.

          WHY would you take a one ounce gold coin, worth about $1300 spot, and use it like a paper $50.00 bill??? That’s utter madness and you completely missed the point!

          I don’t think you really used your gold coins with any legitimate merchant. The used car lots are run by shady two-bit hacks who might be willing to play the gold coin game. Gresham’s Law worked in the dealer’s favor, since you used good gold coinage instead of paper junk to buy a car.

          Antique stores, flea markets, garage sales aren’t the legitimate macro economy. They are fringe of the fringe markets where person to person exchanges might recognize your gold or silver coins at spot value. Most won’t take gold or silver because that would require them to go to a coin store and cash them out. Too much work.

          I HAVE TRIED TO USE MY GOLD COINS in just the same ways as I alluded to in my first comment. Take a Peace Dollar silver coin, worth $18, to McDonald’s and see if you can get $18 worth of food.

          Let me know how it turns out…

          • greatbeard September 12, 2016 at 8:30 pm #

            Gold is a store of value not a transaction medium like greenbacks. Gold bought 10 years ago will bring double what was paid for it. Cash from 10 years ago will buy approximately half what it would 10 years ago. The gold stored value, the greenbacks didn’t. There are plenty of good reasons to own gold and silver but as an easy medium of day to day transactions it is lacking. Go ahead and hoard cash if that’s is your preference.

          • KK September 12, 2016 at 10:17 pm #

            Supposedly, in Venezuela a silver 1 oz. coin will buy six month’s food.

            zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-04/srsrocco-precious-metals-webinar-big-events-coming-1-oz-silver-buys-6-…

            Just sayin’….

          • unirealist September 13, 2016 at 2:32 am #

            You said, “Your gold and silver value will instantly become zero.”

            You were wrong, as I pointed out. I even allowed for the fact that no one would spend their coins that way because they have more value as a store of value.

            You said, “Take your gold coins to buy a car and see if the car dealer will take them in trade.”

            You were wrong, as I pointed out. I did just what you said I could not do with gold coins. I assure you that if I were in a bind again today I could do exactly the same thing. And like before, it would be with a “legitimate merchant.”

            I’m curious to know how you draw from those facts the idea that I’m brainwashed, deluded, or mad. I’m actually happy, well-off, debt-free, and have a wonderful family.

            By the way, I DID get your point. It wasn’t the point that was wrong, it was the supporting arguments.

          • JimInFlorida September 13, 2016 at 8:58 am #

            unirealist, perhaps it’s where you live is the reason you are able to use your gold coins.

            I live in Flori-Duh and NOBODY recognizes gold or silver coins for ANYTHING. They are absolutely useless as tender. Even the State laws EXPLICITLY reject gold or silver coins as tender or for paying taxes or doing any business with the State or corporate entities.

            I also have no confidence in a “store of value” that depends on stripmall coin dealers or amateur goldbugs to liquidate them for me. The fact that gold has shown such vulnerability to being jerked around (1980-1981 and 2004-2013) also discounts gold’s claim to being a reliable store of value. It’s a speculative commodity riding on a myth.

          • greatbeard September 13, 2016 at 10:19 am #

            Cherry picking dates and times to make your argument appear valid isn’t particularly convincing or new jiminfl. Fact is over any extended time lines gold has held it’s value while the dollar has continually lost value. And buying and selling gold isn’t depended on “gold bugs” and strip mall dealers. But you go ahead and hoard those dollars.

          • Florida Power September 13, 2016 at 1:05 pm #

            JIF– everything you say is true but as a limited case. Gold ownership signifies lack of confidence in government. Had you lived in Argentina during the most recent currency crisis you would have been vastly better off storing your accumulated wealth in Krugerrands rather than the peso or whatever unit they use. True enough, you’d have been hard-pressed actually to use it in a small transaction — although unlike your McDonald’s I’ll wager any Argie would gladly have received the 1 oz gold coin for a Big Mac with fries and coke. Money outside the governing financial system has functioned well for millennia.

            Assuming that there are deep structures in the human psyche I submit — based on nothing other than supposition — the reason precious metals are attractive has to do with the way they catch light. We all know the other PM attributes that are superior to other substances and how they fit well the Aristotelian definition of money.

            Furthermore the central banks are still obsessed with gold. If it were truly an absurdity why would they bother?

          • Bigskyguy58 September 14, 2016 at 6:12 pm #

            I am born and raised here in the Pensacola area. Come from a 5th generation NW FL Floridian family.

            I have used silver eagles and $18 dollar eagles at our Pensacola Yacht Club and at several different bars around town and at my bait/tackle/gun shop.

            Here is my question. What do you, recommend folks do if and when paper money is all but worthless?

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 6:53 pm #

            other things

            you know, money can’t buy you love

            youtube.com/watch?v=uxha1IUsSPI

    • SidewaysFacingDog September 12, 2016 at 2:53 pm #

      “I suppose gold and silver coins will once again be the medium of exchange”
      ——–

      You likely suppose wrong. For TPTB, the purpose of a cashless economy is to make it as close to impossible as TPTB can make it to being unable to hide transactions (thus getting their pound of flesh) from Big Daddy.

      The elimination of U.S. cash will likely be accompanied by other restrictions that further their nefarious goals: criminalization of the possession of any other currency; criminalization of the possession of gold, silver as well as any other mediums of exchange that can be identified; criminalization of Bitcoin like private electronic mediums of exchange and value storage.
      ——

      If you don’t transact electronically you will likely be a defined as s currency criminal and likely treated under domestic terrorism laws; as well as have any of your assets civilly forfeited which >you< can not prove was obtained with state sanctioned means.

      No, there will be very little work around this. And given that new reality, the question becomes – What do you (or we) do about it?

      Welcome to the USSA.

      • Lawfish September 12, 2016 at 4:55 pm #

        The sooner you establish a network of like-minded individuals who will barter with you and/or accept silver/gold in trade, the better prepared you will be to circumvent TPTB. Whenever anything is declared illegal, a black market immediately develops for it.

        • Bigskyguy58 September 14, 2016 at 6:13 pm #

          What do you mean by TBTB?

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 6:54 pm #

            The Powers That Be

      • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 12:01 am #

        Yes, and “credit cards” will become an implanted chip – the Mark of the Beast without which you will neither buy nor sell.

        • seawolf77 September 13, 2016 at 12:54 pm #

          The chip is on your credit card now. The beast system is already in place.

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 6:55 pm #

            i like the chip

            …more secure

        • chuckyzfr1 September 15, 2016 at 7:30 am #

          “Why come you have no tattoo?”

    • chuckyzfr1 September 15, 2016 at 7:43 am #

      I had an economics professor who always used to refer to the “cash economy” as primarily a black market affair, comprised of “drug dealers, prostitutes, and mafia activities.” This was back in the 90’s, and I always found myself trying to convince him that the cash economy was much more than just criminal enterprise. Every time I read or hear a story about attempts to do away with cash, such as eliminating more of the large denominations of currency, or eliminating physical currency altogether, it makes my blood boil. Anyone who believes it is anything other than control is deluding themselves.

      With regard to what some have been saying about living off the land, bartering, etc; in a Kunstler-esque long emergency/SHTF scenario, my guess is that the resources for living off the land will get stretched too thin pretty quickly. No one is going to use patience to hunt when their survival depends on it. Folks will be spot-lighting deer at night until there aren’t any more deer.

      • dannyboy September 15, 2016 at 11:52 am #

        I use cash A LOT.

      • routersurfer September 15, 2016 at 5:48 pm #

        I agree. Hope I am long dead when it hits the fan. Game and small farming could support maybe forty million in the USA. Big die off. Barter, labor, small arms, gold and silver, seeds are all we will have to work with. Look close at that list…. all are under assault by government or big biz. Ever wonder why?

  3. pequiste September 12, 2016 at 9:35 am #

    Regarding Jim’s take on money; I think he’s right on the money.

    “Eliminating currency as a medium of exchange can only lead to the repudiation of “money” — which will beat a quick path to the repudiation of all authority. And there is your recipe for really suicidal political disorder.’

    Or if you will the establishment of a rather more rigorous political order. I’m thinking Weimar style.

    youtube.com/watch?v=I8P80A8vy9I

    And the money was the reason for John F. Kennedy to receive the first Zapruder Aktion. U.S. Notes anyone?

    The U.S. Dollar is as solid as Hillary looked getting into that Secret Service van at the 9-11 Memorial ceremoney.

    • seawolf77 September 12, 2016 at 10:04 am #

      You’re playing pin-the tail on the reason JFK was shot. Everyone had a reason to ice JFK, that’s why no one complained when they did. There wasn’t a single power base in this country that JFK had not alienated. I guess he was doing the opposite of what Julius Caesar tried to do.

      • Bigskyguy58 September 14, 2016 at 6:15 pm #

        Who, and or what power bases did he piss off?

        • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 6:56 pm #

          he pissed off less handsome men

          bigtime

  4. Rodster September 12, 2016 at 9:37 am #

    At least to me all this shows the signs of modern civilization coming to an end. You have stupid people being led by stupidly dangerous individuals who don’t think before they act.

    The last paragraph about the USA provoking Russia not only militarily but economically and politically. It’s just madness what the idiots in Washington DC conjure up. Thank God for people like Paul Craig Roberts and JHK calling out this shit.

    • orbit7er September 12, 2016 at 9:56 am #

      What is really scaring me is a true sign of the End Times – both the Chicago Cubs and the Boston Red Sox leading their divisions with a real shot to play each other in the World Series!
      If that happens we are probably at the end of the World!

      • seawolf77 September 12, 2016 at 10:00 am #

        You’re forgetting Cleveland.

      • Poet September 12, 2016 at 10:45 am #

        And Washington–even if they are now in the National League–these clubs are the precursors of disaster for the country.

    • abbybwood September 13, 2016 at 1:14 pm #

      I noticed Donald Trump said that if any Iranian ships bothered any American ships (in their neighborhood I might add) that he would “blow them out of the water”:

      businessinsider.com/donald-trump-shoot-iranian-ships-2016-9

      • Bigskyguy58 September 14, 2016 at 6:16 pm #

        Good! I hope he gives the order to blow them out of the water!!

        • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 6:57 pm #

          take it easy

          BIG sky GUY

    • routersurfer September 15, 2016 at 5:50 pm #

      Truth Rodster……….

  5. malthuss September 12, 2016 at 9:39 am #

    Meanwhile, in Cinemaland;

    cbsnews.com/news/nasa-human-computers-african-american-women-hidden-figures/

    The real reason for the success of the space program has been revealed!!

    Complex propulsion, lift, thrust and trajectory calculations were performed by black women known as human computers.

    • dolph9 September 12, 2016 at 4:42 pm #

      Didn’t you get the memo?

      Blacks built western civilization and America. White people were just the evil oppressors keeping them from their true potential.

      Now they are going to build nuclear reactors and send us to Mars.

      • Bigskyguy58 September 14, 2016 at 6:17 pm #

        If you are white, I felt sorry for you. For 10 seconds.

    • elysianfield September 12, 2016 at 7:15 pm #

      Malthuss,
      You now must recognize that to believe we faked the Moon landing is “racist”, and possibly a hate crime….

    • jhon September 13, 2016 at 6:46 am #

      “Wishing doesn’t make it so.” – Ayn Rand

    • JimInFlorida September 13, 2016 at 10:12 am #

      Comrade Boris Badenov
      Airstrip 2
      District 6
      Ministry of Love – Mental Health Division

      ////// for general distribution//////

      malthuss!

      This CBS story was created by our colleagues in the Ministry of Truth! They INVENTED that story and CBS ran with it.

      [ From the transcript of a famous interrogation from the MHD files (abridged for brevity), ]

      ” ‘There is a Party slogan dealing with the control of the past,’ [Interrogator O’Brien] said. ‘Repeat it, if you please.’
      ‘“Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past,”’ repeated Winston obediently.

      Does the past exist concretely, in space? Is there somewhere or other a place, a world of solid objects, where the past is still happening?’
      ‘No.’
      ‘Then where does the past exist, if at all?’
      ‘In records. It is written down.’
      ‘In records. And—?’
      ‘In the mind. In human memories.’
      ‘In memory. Very well, then. We, the Party, control all records, and we control all memories. Then we control the past, do we not?’ ”

      [ end transcript segment ]

      Why, all of a sudden, are we NOW being told that NASA’s success hinged on Black women? The lack of dates and corroborating evidence is all too obvious. It doesn’t matter, though. WE MAKE IT TRUE and nobody, anywhere, can challenge it.

      MiniTrue editors had no problem creating this story of “African American” human computers. The PC goodthink is solid. Black, female, and working out of their normal fields. Fake in a few photos, doctor some records, fake a book, and print a few copies, and voila, NASA succeeded only because of Black women.

      I’m sure we’ll discover that nuclear submarine power plants were invented by some Mississippi Negro inventor who wanted to give his homemade submarine (made out of a 1000 gallon propane tank) unlimited endurance. His first batch of Uranium was gained from bartering a case of malt liquor and Cornelius Washington donated his irrigation pump to the cause. Then Admiral Hyman G Rickover stole the secrets from him…. racist bastard!

      MiniTrue is rectifying all past History to give credit to our 1st Class citizens of Color and MiniLuv stands by to rectify any defective White memory! MiniLuv-MHD has ways of re-educating recalcitrant Whites and introducing them to the knout of Racial Sensitivity!

      Comrade Bhukov, The Time Is Now for Reparations! Any White person working at NASA must be ordered to provide OJT for any Black person who wanted to be an astronaut, scientist, engineer, etc.! Once trained, the White racecriminal must resign and then do volunteer time at their local Party office performing Racial Sensitivity penance. If they fail to report, have them arrested and send them to us. We have plenty of electricity and rope!

      In the service of INGSOC,

      Boris Badenov
      Chief Inquisitor
      Miniluv-MHD

      cc: BB @ HQ-INGSOC, Comrade Bhukov (MinRap).

  6. seawolf77 September 12, 2016 at 9:47 am #

    The hypotenuse is the long side of a triangle opposite the 90 degree angle.

    • CancelMyCard September 12, 2016 at 10:08 am #

      That STILL doesn’t answer the question of whether it is animal, vegetable, or mineral.

      • Elrond Hubbard September 12, 2016 at 12:43 pm #

        It’s none of the above. Have you ever actually seen the hypotenuse in real life? No, you’ve only seen instances of the hypotenuse; diagrams or physical objects that conform to the the shape of a right triangle, but never the thing itself. The hypotenuse is neither animal, vegetable nor mineral: it’s virtual. (And since JHK is fond of insisting that the virtual is not a meaningful substitute for the real, where does that leave us?)

        Here’s a koan: Where does your lap go when you stand up?

        • Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 2:39 pm #

          In contrast to your usual, this is a useful approach. The Church, in its wisdom, when with the specific approach of Aristotle as opposed to the Ideas of Plato. No one has ever seen “Man”, but only a Frenchman, a German, a Nigerian, etc. And since “Man” does not exist, He has no rights. Thus Globalism is null, a stillbirth, a cosmic abortion.

          Each nation must rule itself. Your quest for absolute power is a Platonic Pipedream.

          • Elrond Hubbard September 12, 2016 at 4:47 pm #

            No, though I’m not surprised to see you espousing essentialism. It’s a fundamental mistake to think of living beings in terms of pure abstractions, as though we were polygons. It’s Procrustean, like insisting that there is such a thing as a statistically average family with 2.4 kids.

            Darwin exploded forever the idea that each species is a given thing, unique and entire of itself. The arrow points in the other direction: existence precedes essence. There is no Platonic ideal of living things; it’s endless contingencies, all the way back to primeval ooze. The key is to understand the contingencies on their own terms. Abstractions are tools that help us understand the world, but when they start to mislead you, you don’t start rearranging the world to make them fit — you devise better, truer abstractions.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 7:53 pm #

            No, that is what you are doing. I’m for the particular, for seeing infinity in a grain sand and eternity in an hour, for thinking globally and acting (and governing) locally. As Huey Long put it, Every man a King. Or the Bible, Every man under his own fig tree.

            How great the contrast with your global slave plantation that is the fine print of your Agenda 21 and your UN, Rights of “Man”.

          • Sticks-of-TNT September 13, 2016 at 3:17 am #

            If JHK’s ‘World Made By Hand’ is to be our future (Just finished listening to the Audible version of Book #4, ‘The Harrows of Spring’–of course the book is terrific, BUT SO IS THE NARRATOR!!!) our watchwords may be,

            “Think, govern AND act locally!” Imagine. A world with NO Clintons OR Trumps! (It’s easy, if you try.)

            It’s gotta be an improvement on our current CFN! Even if we have to ride mules.

            Sticks-of-TNT

          • Florida Power September 13, 2016 at 1:16 pm #

            Elrond writes:
            “Darwin exploded forever the idea that each species is a given thing, unique and entire of itself.”

            Fred Reed explodes Darwin in his most recent post.

        • elysianfield September 12, 2016 at 7:18 pm #

          “Here’s a koan: Where does your lap go when you stand up?”

          It goes and hides with the Goddamned hypotenuse….

          • Sticks-of-TNT September 13, 2016 at 2:41 am #

            These questions remind me of the old, “Do you walk to school or carry your lunch?”

            -Sticks

        • routersurfer September 15, 2016 at 5:54 pm #

          Up some peoples posterior?

  7. noel bodie September 12, 2016 at 9:51 am #

    Nicole Foss at theautomaticearth.com has written a series on war on the dollar and now Jim…I’m beginning to think something’s afoot. I like the anonymity of cash…make a purchase no electronic trail. Here is a “store of wealth” 1/4 acre of watermelon brought $1863.25 to contrast to agribiz farming that would be over 7k/acre versus about $750 for corn at current prices. My system used hardly any fuel and no cost for seed(versus $300/bag for corn). Manure was used for fertilizer. It was lots of hard work but everyone seems to enjoy the results.

    • routersurfer September 15, 2016 at 5:57 pm #

      Nice. Farm everything ADM does not buy and you will do fine. Best wishes.

  8. seawolf77 September 12, 2016 at 9:54 am #

    People talk about the budget as if it is real. There is no limit to the amount of money America can print or spend. We can never default because we print money. The national debt is the money supply, by definition. It’s the ultimate Monopoly game, one that includes a little printing press to drive the price of all capital assets up. How this game ends no one knows. Kunstler speculated Peak Oil would bring it down. But it didn’t. The oil supply changed in America, Saudi Arabia wasn’t running out, and Russia still had plenty too. What happened is the coal industry died in America, replaced by turbines burning natural gas. That was the big news. Coal is dying. Is that a precursor to peak oil? Who knows.

    • orbit7er September 12, 2016 at 10:06 am #

      The stock market is diving as the EU temporarily stops their printing presses while the US Fed talks about raising rates from the lofty %0.050 !! Actually the real problem is not the Fed printing money but as Michael Hudson points out printing money NOT for investing in the Green Transition we need but primarily for the Corporate monopoly rentiers to make money without producing or investing anything of substance but merely buy their own stock, invest amost $1 Trillion in the dead end of more fossil fuel shale oil, gas, deepwater and Tar Sands oil production. Instead of Green Transit, solar, insulation etc we will need in the future. DemocracyNow had an interesting article about the funding of the Dakota East Pipeline by the banksters:
      democracynow.org/2016/9/9/who_is_funding_the_dakota_access
      Finally it appears the Native Americans in the US are joining their Canadian brethren in resisting the destruction of their tribal lands and the whole Earth. The same banksters with all their Greenwashing are perfectly happy to plow $3.8 Billion of Fed printed money into a shale oil pipeline to export oil abroad and ven if temporarily successful will only succeed in burning up our planet.
      Here in New Jersey we had the worst heat waves in August and September I have ever suffered…

    • James Howard Kunstler September 12, 2016 at 10:19 am #

      Seawolf– It remains to be seen whether our basic energy predicament will bring down the banking system. The peak oil story is about running out of affordable oil, and we’re there. Oil over $75/barrel crushes industrial economies; oil under $75/barrel crushes oil companies. Gail Tverberg over at http://www.OurFiniteWorld.com has very clearly laid out the dynamic.

      • dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 10:32 am #

        don’t worry too much about the banking system

        there are ways

        and there are ways

        • Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 2:42 pm #

          Exactly. George Bush asked peevishly, “I though debt didn’t matter anymore” – his natural Anglo-Saxon commonsense perplexed by the Talmudic sleigh of hand of his Masters. He accepted it on the surface, but not inwardly. He certainly didn’t understand the trick.

          But you do, Danny. And so do I.

          • dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 8:15 pm #

            The second agreement between The Chosen Jew and the jew-hater.

      • JimInFlorida September 12, 2016 at 11:59 am #

        Jim, you’re still basing money on the idea of fixed assets. I’ve already pointed out that it is being shifted more towards the forces that agitate money to move sideways, rather than do work by converting fixed assets into spendable value.

        To use a physics analogy, traditional money converts potential energy (savings and accumulated physical value) into kinetic energy (production, sales, and consumption). In the traditional analogy, money actually does work or, work is achieved as the result of money movement.

        The shift is towards thrashing money sideways, since there are no sources of potential energy where economic gravity can effect work upon it. The New Economy moves money by lawsuits, insurance payouts, grift, rackets, political payola, frivolous consumption, regulatory compliance, medical expenses, frivolous retail consumption, and blackmail.

        Since no work is being done, wealth must be stolen… usually by arbitrage. As arbitrage takes money out of the system, the Fed must print money to replace what was stolen. THAT is how the Fed can text, “Mo’ Money,” and not cause inflation! The money supply itself becomes the asset, even though no work is actually achieved.

        Of course, the system cannot be sustained because, all of that stolen wealth cannot remain hoarded forever. At some point, the quadrillions MUST be released to succor the masses. Since all of the money will be pure charity, inflation will go wild since it will all go to consumption. The supermajority of production will be done by robots and/or slaves, which means there will be no productive humans to revive, gain profits from, and spend some of their earned surplus to keep the consumption economy going.

        • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 8:53 am #

          “At some point, the quadrillions MUST be released to succor the masses.”

          But, how can the masses be succor ed when nothing that would succor them [ food and raiment ] is being produced? 

          • JimInFlorida September 13, 2016 at 10:29 am #

            Easy. An attitude adjustment is in the works to where food and raiment will be gratefully received, instead of haughtily expected.

            We Teh Slaves are already dependent on overseas slaves to make our stuff. It is impossible for most to convert their labor-time into sufficient wages to buy into the living standard of a 1st class country so, we are riding on credit and money games. That will be exhausted soon enough.

            If ZOG Amerikan Slaves can’t buy the stuff, then TPTB will step in and buy it for us albeit with strings attached.

            Our dependence will be complete and we will be succored in that way because we have no option otherwise.

          • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 10:43 am #

            I will not be succored, nor suckered.

      • seawolf77 September 12, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

        I read somewhere that a barrel of oil produces $1000 of GDP. So at $50 it is 5% and at $150 it is 15% and at $300 it is 30%. I would probably draw that line at 10%. I don’t see the economy going gangbusters now that it has gone from 10% down to 5%, it’s pretty much the same.

  9. Elrond Hubbard September 12, 2016 at 10:04 am #

    Regarding the U.S.’s approach to Russia and Putin, Glenn Greenwald has this to say:

    “As Trevor Timm wrote yesterday in The Guardian, ‘Barack Obama seems to be the only politician not playing into the cold war 2.0 hysteria.’ Indeed, Obama has continually acted in accord with Russia’s agenda and sought to pour cold water on attempts to revive Cold War rhetoric and policies.

    theintercept.com/2016/09/09/whats-behind-obamas-ongoing-accommodation-of-vladimir-putin/

    I haven’t read the whole article yet, but Greenwald is ever astute. And anyone resisting push back toward nuclear confrontation deserves praise.

    • outsider September 12, 2016 at 12:46 pm #

      Greenwald sure could have fooled me that Obama is “not playing into the cold war 2.0 hysteria.” Obama caused relations between the super powers to get much worse when, 1) Putin, perhaps saving thousands of lives, made him look foolish over his “brilliant idea” to lob some missiles into Damascus over the chemical weapons false flag. And, 2) When Obama, in retaliation for being shown up, petulantly refused to attend the Sochi Olympics. Russia scholar Stephen Cohen blames the resumption of the cold war precisely on Obama’s brain-dead policies.

  10. peakfuture September 12, 2016 at 10:04 am #

    Dmitry Orlov says similar insightful things, and is right on target as well.

    It still amazes me – don’t those up on Mount Olympus read any history?

    I’ve met a lot of Eastern European/Russian people, and they are generally no nonsense sorts. The elites are going to get their collective heads handed to us one day if they don’t wise up. Unfortunately, those of us in the trenches are going to be suffering just as much, if not more. Collateral damage, indeed.

    Anyone discuss this stuff (the idiocy of our dealings with Russia) with their friends and family?

    • peakfuture September 12, 2016 at 10:09 am #

      That is, the elites will get their collective heads handed to *them*.

      • dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 8:17 pm #

        “The elites are going to get their collective heads handed to us one day if they don’t wise up. Unfortunately, those of us in the trenches are going to be suffering just as much, if not more.” – peakfuture

        “That is, the elites will get their collective heads handed to *them*.”

        keep trying, because you don’t get it

  11. newworld September 12, 2016 at 10:20 am #

    Do you actually believe what you just said? Take a poll of just Democratic voters and see how they want to leave the oil age.

  12. newworld September 12, 2016 at 10:24 am #

    Basically the cashless society is an old utopian idea that had some traction with commie symps, and as EO Wilson said about communism, “wonderful system, wrong species.”

    Everyone below GS14 paper stacker would basically be on an EBT card existence.

  13. dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 10:30 am #

    “If currency is eliminated, these outfits will turn to gold and silver, it’s that simple. And so will everybody else, by the way.”

    The FIRST sound piece of investment advice here. This morning, I went longer gold.

    Bid it up boys!

    • malthuss September 12, 2016 at 10:37 am #

      This morning, I went longer gold.
      How can we make money?

      • dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 8:18 pm #

        i made money by you buying.

        now you gin up some story

    • elysianfield September 12, 2016 at 10:42 am #

      “The United States Gold Reserve Act of January 30, 1934 required that all gold and gold certificates held by the Federal Reserve be surrendered and vested in the sole title of the United States Department of the Treasury. The Gold Reserve Act outlawed most private possession of gold,”

      Dannyboy,
      Never happen here(again)…this is ‘Murica, Dammit!

      • SteveO September 12, 2016 at 10:51 am #

        That was “reformed” in 1974. As of Jan 1, 1975, US citizens were once again allowed to own gold.

        • JimInFlorida September 12, 2016 at 12:16 pm #

          The Sheep were permitted to own gold because the advent of Reaganomics was on the horizon and gold was relegated to the status of an expensive talisman for We Teh Slaves. The sales pitch asserted that we could own real liquid value that transcends the Washington-Wall Street matrix.

          Without a monopoly on the supply of gold, or the power to set its value and use it as currency, gold is just another commodity riding on The Greater Fool Theory. TPTB played us for Fools, twice: 1980-1981 and 2004-2013.

          • dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 8:22 pm #

            get it from Chase Private Bank.

            count on “The Greater Fool Theory”

            as my hero David Khari Webber says: “We’re rich, bitches!”

    • SteveO September 12, 2016 at 10:45 am #

      I suspect that cash from the pre-ban period will linger for quite a while and have a black market exchange rate against the new digital-dollar. Over time the two will diverge greatly like the official exchange rate vs the black market exchange rate did in the old Soviet block.

    • outsider September 12, 2016 at 12:49 pm #

      What companies make home safes? That sure looks like a growth industry.

    • JimInFlorida September 12, 2016 at 1:27 pm #

      Gresham’s Law won’t let you get away with it.

      TPTB aren’t buying gold so, it’s only being churned amongst the hoi polloi and within the shrinking envelope of purchasing power within that group.

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 6:43 pm #

        Jiffy, you know about China and India, right?

        • JimInFlorida September 13, 2016 at 6:55 pm #

          Completely different nations and cultures. Ancient cultures that still OFFICIALLY recognize gold and silver for important transactions.

          The key is OFFICIAL recognition and incorporation of gold and silver in the domestic economy. That is NOT the case in ZOG Amerika.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 7:20 pm #

            Mr Crow,

            You do know that I can sell gold and that Chinese & Indians can buy gold.

            See the market?

            seller/buyer

            buyer bids the price up, seller makes profit

  14. malthuss September 12, 2016 at 10:37 am #

    Dell firing workers, bringing in Indians.

    JHK doesnt want links to you tubes, so I wont link.

    • Sticks-of-TNT September 12, 2016 at 8:09 pm #

      To quote a friend here, “Feather or dot?”

      -Sticks

      • Sticks-of-TNT September 12, 2016 at 8:12 pm #

        Also, aren’t Indians ‘workers’ too?

        • JimInFlorida September 13, 2016 at 6:59 pm #

          Yes they are. They can work in India or somewhere in Southeast Asia.

          American workers have the RIGHT to be given first dibs ahead of foreign applicants. We also have the RIGHT to be paid as Americans. The last is a long lost concept once enshrined in New Deal America and something we had a RIGHT to expect.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 7:20 pm #

            agree

  15. drewkeeling September 12, 2016 at 10:45 am #

    In order for money to cease to function as money people have to lose faith that it will hold its value long enough to be exchangeable for goods and services, and/or lose faith in the viability of the sovereign authority issuing or backing the money. Both have indeed happened periodically in the past. If either happens to the US dollar in our time, this is liable to be the result of a number of other things going “off the rails” first. That looks unlikely to happen overnight, but longer range prognoses appear less positive. For such reasons, the short term forecasts of this blog are sometimes not very convincing, yet unfortunately, the longer term trends discussed quite often are.

    • Lawfish September 12, 2016 at 2:10 pm #

      That’s why our dear host called it the “Long Emergency.”

    • Majella September 12, 2016 at 7:42 pm #

      was it Hemingway who, when asked how he had gone bankrupt, said “Gradually, and then suddenly”.? Waiting for other indicators to turn negative is a mistake – when a tipping point comes, it’s never recognised until after the fact.

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 6:44 pm #

        Hemingway was not a money guy

  16. shotho September 12, 2016 at 11:02 am #

    Simply excellent! What more can you say? There is so much rich and true material here. Where can you go to find a more truthful statement of America’s present and future. I don’t mean to inflate Kuntsler’s ego, but I wish we had him as a choice in this election. I know that the ignorance of the population would never elect someone so honest and prescient, but he might inject a vein of sanity and probity. One might ask, but what would be his policies that might work better. He’s given the same answer many, many times. Localism and owner control of his/her own enterprise and work, personal responsibility and hard work.

    • Majella September 12, 2016 at 7:55 pm #

      It’s really only 45 years (since 1970) that the breakdown of the ‘old ways’ when there was a rich, complex dynamic economy where the production and distribution lines were owned by diverse holders of small & medium sized enterprises. That system delivered an acceptable level of income & existence to all community participants because there was true local ownership and profits would remain in the community from whence it had come.

      Then, agribiz started to consolidate (along with the pharmaceutical, energy & distribution sectors [viz Walmart]) which has created a bleak monoculture in almost every area of life today, based on greater & greater profit for shareholders, while the labour force and consumer cohort is squeezed ever drier and is bloated by the empty carbohydrate of debt.

      Can this be reversed? Can that rich diversity of the economic fabric ever be rebuilt?

      Only when enough others can see it clearly and are prepared to express that concern. But most would rather ‘go along to get along’, So the inevitable collapse is likely to be the only catalyst from which that new/old economy can be born/reborn.

      • Dumbedup September 13, 2016 at 9:41 am #

        Well put. I would add that when Nixon/Connally took us off the gold standard and repudiated Bretton Woods and fixed exchange rates it opened the door for the securitized economy we now see. It became possible for almost every scrap of commercial paper to become securities, packaged and resold for unlimited leverage.

        I had a good friend in college who’s father owned a lumber company. He sold wood to local builders for new construction and renovations and made a good living. That company is now run by investors who make most of their money by hedging against changes in the price of lumber. They don’t even own a mill any longer. What wood they do sell is from Mexico or from mills owned by other investors.

        This can only end badly. I see no way forward when the means of production and payment owned by people who only know the value of finance. This is the new way of capital formation. The old way of saving is gone.

  17. Walter B September 12, 2016 at 11:05 am #

    Desperation is exactly where they need the Common American Idiot to be right now. Desperate idiots are far more likely to accept whatever crap comes out of November’s “election”, accept negative interest rates, and then even beg for a cashless system to replace it. The American Association of Retarded People (AARP) seriously believes that it has the hearts and minds of the old bobble heads in hand, and they very well might. The first thing they do is bombard us with mailings that start when you turn fifty and then sell you out to the army of telemarketers and “Financial advisors” (give US your money) that grease their palms. I cannot understand why anyone of age would even consider trusting such a scurrilous bunch. Once the masses fall for NIRP, if they do, cashless systems (with NO NIRP) all of a sudden become a “wonderful” option. Once a system goes cashless, total theft becomes something most high school kids can pull off.

    Whether you believe in God and the Devil or not, anyone with even half a brain should be able to understand that Free Will or Total Control represents the qualities that those two represent. Free good, Control Bad. Repeat until it sinks in!

    • Beryl of Oyl September 12, 2016 at 1:22 pm #

      Michele Obama did a little commercial for them. The Obamas reward those that do business their way.

  18. Old_Postie September 12, 2016 at 11:30 am #

    Quite a few wise words here about the issues of abandoning currency. But, getting down to my trivial life, just what to do about my monthly poker games? Will I have to bring a bag of silver coins? Put it on PayPal? I don’t like the latter, there are some things in a marriage best left unsaid and unknown!

    • dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 8:27 pm #

      play for cigarettes, like in the joint

  19. volodya September 12, 2016 at 12:07 pm #

    What makes Elites “elite”? You can say MONEY and you would be right. But what guarantees generational continuity? What makes for an identifiable and cohesive group? Yeah, daddy’s last will and testament is one way.

    But there’s something else. Elites are – cough – “educated” at “elite” institutions. So what makes these institutions “elite”? It’s nothing more than grotesque tuition fees that weed out the less financially endowed.

    That’s the key, the degree with the august stamp of the college is the letter of introduction. It’s the certificate of membership.

    What does a Harvard degree tell anyone? It’s nothing more than a tribal head-dress that tells the Wall Street HR zombie what your caste is.

    Of course, it’s all a ludicrous con. Nobody seriously thinks that Harvard’s educational rigor remotely justifies the astounding yearly fee. You’re just there to learn the secret handshakes and passwords.

    Does anyone think that the current crop attending these places is remotely up to the task of becoming leaders of a purported hegemon? Of course not, just look at their laughable behavior. It’s one farce after another, the latest being tampons in men’s washrooms. You want to avert your eyes.

    Some of the brighter bulbs might realize the truth but in the main it’s like JHK sez, in reality they’re in just another twilight zone of abysmal ignorance, no matter that they think they’re the best of the best.

    Decay and civilizational senility set in. So it is with the USA. You can see the gangrene right in front of you. It’s not just crumbling bridges or an economy whose main output is speculative paper and tax evasion. It’s personal and it’s intellectual. The heirs aren’t half the men their fathers were. The daddies were self indulgent but they were brutal and shrewd, the wastrel sons merely self indulgent, their ambitions extending as far as snorting, drinking and screwing.

    The question is which of this gang of ninnies will be the last emperor, the modern Romulus Augustulus that gets shooed from the imperial palace. The other question of course is who will be the modern day Odoacer. Will it be a foreigner, a chieftain from the outer reaches? Or will the usurper come from from one of the wind-blown American provinces?

    • pequiste September 12, 2016 at 12:36 pm #

      “Decay and civilizational senility set in. So it is with the USA. ” V.

      Hate to post a link here, however nothing like documentary evidence, by the way of a devastating photographic essay from a British news source , the Guardian, that make me want to go full Jeremiad (like JHK) about the once great U.S.A.; it’s heritage, present state of affairs, and the destination as determined by the current trajectory.

      dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3785058/Abandoned-America-Photographers-captures-past-glories-left-crum…

      Woe is US.

      • volodya September 12, 2016 at 12:45 pm #

        Phew…

      • Elrond Hubbard September 12, 2016 at 12:59 pm #

        This weekend, I was watching a talk given by the economist Mark Blyth — I don’t have the YouTube link to post, but maybe it was from May this year? Anyway, one of his points was about why America has done better bouncing back after the GFC than Europe. It’s because:

        (a) When they lose their jobs, Americans have historically blamed themselves instead of corporate or government decisions about the economy. Then they pick up and move somewhere else, which ties into:

        (b) America considers large parts of itself completely disposable, up to and including entire cities (New Orleans and Detroit come to mind).

        In other words, when something seems like it’s no longer working, where Europe might devote resources to keeping it viable, Americans just give up and move on to the next thing. This makes for amazing economic dynamism side by side with all the crapola that JHK makes a career of condemning — or at least it will, until the crapola is all that’s left.

        • volodya September 12, 2016 at 1:19 pm #

          These are really good points. This is saying that Americans are empiricists at heart. Meaning do what works and stop doing what doesn’t.

          Now, the problem of course is to discern what works and what doesn’t. So when you have a central bank, nay, a world FULL of central banks whose mandate it is to hide what isn’t working via monetary mechanisms that give you fake and distorted market prices, where you end up is a place where nothing works.

          That is to say, effort and resources are wasted. And then, as you say, the crapola is all that’s left.

          • Walter B September 12, 2016 at 5:44 pm #

            Indeed volodya your initial point was well made and smartly put, bravo! As far as America going with what works and abandoning what does not, also correct – however, this new paradigm of “Too Big To Fail” and “Too Big to Jail” not only flies (or farts) right in the face of that method of operating, but if it continues, and it will, it will be the Kryptonite that kills the Superman that this once mighty nation used to be. Yes used to be for we have already be subjected to far more of the toxic substance than is healthy and the future promises only more if not worse poisons injected directly into the nation’s venous system. Before they are through with us, Mrs. President Clinton will not be the only comatose carcass flopping into the gutter, except the nation will certainly not have two big goons in sunglasses with Uzis to prop us up and help us into an awaiting jalopy.

        • orbit7er September 12, 2016 at 1:59 pm #

          Unfortunately Americans have never seemed to learn from 15 Years of War in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, the Ukraine that it just doesn’t work. The US hasn’t won a War since WW II although the Empire HAS succeeded in irreparable damage to many countries and their sustainable prospects. But even there we see that Iran successfully overthrew their US imposed Shah, Chile got rid of Pinochet and his minions bloody control, indeed most of Latin America escaped the Empire’s total control.
          Nor do Americans ever seem to learn about the waste of Auto Addiction despite baby steps towards Green Transit.
          So I don’t buy that argument.
          In fact, despite the Austerians squeeze on Greece, Spain, Ireland etc Europeans seem much more in touch with reality. The Dutch will have 100% renewably powered electric Rail by 2018, the Germans are major leaders in solar and renewable energy. I would not count Europe out in the long term by any means. Wait until either the cheap gasoline prices skyrocket or the US dollar loses its hegemony. The US will hit a major brick wall having done almost zilch to prepare for the end of Happy Motoring and Hoggish waste in virtually all areas of life…

        • Dumbedup September 13, 2016 at 10:52 am #

          The problem with this is that the failures, scarcity and imbalances are primarily artificial and caused by the financialization and securitization of the economy. The 1% want to redirect resources to the things that make the wealthy. This is where government regulation is helpful. Effective government (not subject to regulatory capture) should level the playing field and give everyone a fair chance. Right now the sentiment across the country is the government interference transgresses free enterprise and since Reagan (really before that) we have been told that de-regulation is the answer.

          When I hear arguments that the 1% are job creators and should be left alone because it is them who will fuel economic growth I have to laugh. I laugh because where were all these job creators during the early 2000s leading up to 2008? It was the greatest period of economic expansion without government regulation of Wall Street and the result was a near collapse.

          The truth is that it was fake growth based on debt that is now dragging us back down. That is American empiricism.

          • Elrond Hubbard September 13, 2016 at 1:14 pm #

            I find it intellectually lazy to tie everything back to fake-growth-based-on-debt as though debt were an inherently bad thing. The question of whether debt is good or bad is entirely situational. If you’re in a growth economy where there are real opportunities, going into debt in order to establish your business can be a good thing because the real returns exceed the cost of borrowing and everyone really is better off.

            The problem is that the rush of real growth that followed the end of the Second World War petered out in the 1970s, and a decision was tacitly made to do whatever was required to keep the party going in the old way. In other words, we decided to put off and postpone making any choices about what we wanted out of our lives. This was Reagan’s ‘Morning in America’ spiel — we dont have to choose between this and that, we can have everything we want because America is magic.

            We have now reached the point where that string has also played out, and the choices are about to be forced on us with no further pretence possible. The problem is not debt per se but the fact that we’ve clung to our preferred version of reality to the point of real destruction of the social fabric.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 6:49 pm #

            Mr Hubbard,

            I believe that what Dumbedup means by “fake growth based on debt” is “excessive debt”.

            He is correct in his analysis.

          • Dumbedup September 13, 2016 at 11:25 pm #

            When it takes 2 dollars of debt to produce 1 dollar of growth it is fake growth. The economy simply cannot presently survive or grow on its own. We need fiscal stimulus and monetary manipulation (i.e., smoke and mirrors) to even simulate growth. What led to this was the lack of organic growth over the past 35 years. Without real growth of wages homes became ATMs as people borrowed fictitious equity to buy expensive cars and take expensive trips. (and pay expensive tuition) It is pulling demand forward as we borrow more and further and further out into the future.

            Is that industrious enough for you?

      • Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 3:03 pm #

        Hundreds of thousands of Whites fled Black terror in Detroit. Once Blacks gained control of the political structure, Black crimes against Whites were being ignored – exactly what happened in the Old South after the Civil War.

        There’s a tour of the ruins you can take I believe. It was a magnificent city. There was NEVER a chance that the Blacks would maintain it – they have neither the skill nor the interest.

        • BackRowHeckler September 12, 2016 at 9:03 pm #

          I’ve been reading about Liberia. Very instructive.

          To make a long story short it started off pretty good. The people heading it up, the top pols, were accomplished freemen from the south, most of them 1/2 black. It wasn’t long before the American emigrants began lording it over the native Africans, in some cases actually pressing them into slavery. Pretty soon everything was chaos and atrocities, including violent regime change, and cannibalism.

          Its been a rough road, but the last few years things seem to have settled down.

          You might not be aware of this, but the infamous General Butt Naked was a Liberian. He was a cannibal, amongst a lot of other things.

          brh

        • Dumbedup September 13, 2016 at 11:04 am #

          The people who took over Detroit after the white flight have neither the skills nor the education to govern. It has nothing to do with their innate ability.

          Who is to blame for the lack of education and training?

          I’ll tell you who. A government run by whites and privileged men who make it their business to keep a lower class without education and skill because it suits their economic world view.

          Liberia is a perfect example of what happens when an entire culture is kidnapped, enslaved for 2 centuries and their descendants are freed but not given the means to compete economically. They regress and divorce themselves from the culture that oppressed them. Meanwhile, the oppressors still oppress but only because slavery is illegal.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 4:02 pm #

            They immediately enslaved the native Liberians – pretty ironic, eh? Or you incapable of irony?

            Did the Whites make them do that?

    • Beryl of Oyl September 12, 2016 at 1:31 pm #

      From what I’ve seen, Harvard used the money they got from the dunces from wealthy families to offer free rides to some of the cream of the crop of America’s public schools, and also to some ‘diversity’ dunces.
      This could have long since changed, though, as the brainiac I knew who attended Harvard did so pre-1980.
      I worked, for a short period of time, in an office park near an expensive private school. We would see carloads of kids from the school swing by to pick up their stash and smoke weed in remote areas of the parking lots.
      Ironically, I knew parents who sent their kids to these schools to keep them away from the bad public school students with all their drugs.

    • dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 8:32 pm #

      “Some of the brighter bulbs might realize the truth”

      as most here know, I did my formative years in the S. Bronx (see “The Get Down” for a look at my block.

      followed that up with a Columbia B-School MBA in Finance

      Wall Street was easy

  20. venuspluto67 September 12, 2016 at 12:17 pm #

    This election has really made so many people just switch off their brains. Now that it has become impossible to ignore the glaring fact that Hillary has health problems that would bear directly upon her ability to govern, her supporters are shrieking “Sexism!” in response (yet again).

    • Beryl of Oyl September 12, 2016 at 1:35 pm #

      As a woman, I can’t tell you how much I hate that. I feel like they are pulling this crap on the backs of the women who suffered from real sexism.
      BTW, I noticed that the 95th anniversary of women’s suffrage came and went with no national recognition. It now coincides with some sort of red popsicle day.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

        Let’s face it: it’s been a disaster. Women use their power to vote for things like Prohibition, taking away our guns, checkpoints on the roads – also known as unlawful search and seizure, mass immigration, and electing monsters like Angela Merkel and Hillary Clinton.

        • Sticks-of-TNT September 12, 2016 at 8:17 pm #

          Not Beryl!

        • dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 8:32 pm #

          Janos, do you have women hanging on your words?

          no?

  21. DurangoKid September 12, 2016 at 12:21 pm #

    ZIRP, crashing pensions, robotic manufacture, service sector jobs all seem to point in the same direction. More for the elites and less for everybody else. The pie is shrinking and to get their accustomed amount of pie the 0.1% is kicking everyone else to the curb. It’s the usual frog in the pot or death by a thousand cuts. Really, they have no choice but to offer Hillary or Trump. A candidate that tells the truth would tip their hands for them and this scam called America needs a disparity in information as much as wealth to keep the wheels on. there are only a few things that can be done when the promise of money can no longer be redeemed by the physical economy. Distractions and debasement come to mind. Harridans and bombasts to vote for/against and ZIRP to pick your pockets.

  22. volodya September 12, 2016 at 12:36 pm #

    So the story is that Hillary has pneumonia. How do we know it isn’t just another load of codswallop? How do we know what the truth really is? How do we know it isn’t something more serious? How do we know it isn’t lung cancer or something as heinous?

    After all, Hillary is world class at concealment and bullshitting. She’ll say, well, I’ve been as straight forward as I could be. At the time we believed it was pneumonia.

    And the lackeys will all put on a look of wearied exasperation and close their eyes and rub their temples as if their heads hurt and say, can we please stop talking about Hillary’s health? Well ok, but she’s running for Prez. An incapacitated President is a big problem.

    • pequiste September 12, 2016 at 12:57 pm #

      Ron Reagan was incapacitated, first by a bullet and then by senility, and still managed to do a great job of president all the while looking fabulous. No problem. Was president twice.

      George Dubya Bush was completely incapacitated from the get-go and appears to have fucked-up the 21st Century by continuing (Iraq) and initiating (Afghanistan) wars in the Southwest Asia theatre. And then there was that small point about the national debt – doubling it. All the while being incapacitated to think but not having to because Dick (Black Heart) Cheney was doing all the thinking for him. No problem. Was president twice.

      Hillary could be totally incapacitated (cough cough) and I believe it would also be no problem (stumble…faint.) George Soros, Lloyd Blankfein, Federal Reserve playas et. al. pull the wires on the Clintons and by extension the Democrat wing of the U.S. War Uniparti, therefore the outcomes become as programmed. No problem.

      She would be president in a wheelchair if that is how she has to “run” for it. A la FDR: another incapacitated president (was it four times.)

      • volodya September 12, 2016 at 1:08 pm #

        Hilarious. Of course you’re right. So what’s the worry? Lie till you die Hillary? Nothing to see here folks, move along. Hillary in a chemo chair, Hillary hooked up to tubes and monitors, Hillary getting last rites. No problem. And all along the long and winding road will be concealment, shading, bullshitting, mis-directing, distracting. As it was, it shall be.

    • Beryl of Oyl September 12, 2016 at 1:04 pm #

      I believe she probably does have pneumonia at this point, but do I believe it’s pneumonia because of that cough that was due to “allergies”?
      No way. They must think no one else in America is experiencing allergies at this time of year.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 3:09 pm #

      She emerged from Hillary’s apartment looking great: twenty years younger and considerably slimmer – there’s already talk it was a double.

      • malthuss September 12, 2016 at 3:21 pm #

        Do you think it was her or a stand in?

        • Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 3:26 pm #

          I’ll have to study the “tape” and consult with my team. Of course it doesn’t matter since she’s just a puppet herself, as was said above. But as a weapon? It’s gold if it can be proved.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 3:31 pm #

            Went to a kirtan on Friday night. One of the women was magnificent – in her 50’s but with a body 30 years younger. Yoga can have miraculous results if seriously practiced. Are you listening ladies? Yes, you do it for yourself – but we will be most appreciative and grateful.

    • Sticks-of-TNT September 12, 2016 at 8:23 pm #

      Hillary’s first reflex always is TO LIE!

      -Sticks

      P.S., Now that I think about it, maybe she is Presidential material!

  23. volodya September 12, 2016 at 12:42 pm #

    So here we go, the word is that the Dems are discussing a replacement for Hillary because of her health probs. This coming from none other than the inestimable Cokie Roberts.

    Or maybe it’s not because of her health problems. Maybe that’s just the excuse. Maybe there’s panic, maybe it’s the fact that Trump is closing in, maybe they’re shitting themselves that Hillary could LOSE.

    • Beryl of Oyl September 12, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

      I don’t see how they can consider anybody but Bernie. I mean, I know why they would, but do they really think the Bernie supporters would go for that?

      • Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 3:33 pm #

        There’s the other wicked witch, Liz Warren, aka Pocohontas.

  24. Beryl of Oyl September 12, 2016 at 1:02 pm #

    Lost my whole comment before I submitted it.
    Sigh.
    Wondering if the closure of ITT Tech was due to any wrongdoing on their part, or simply due to the Oligarchy protecting its monopoly? I did see a commercial disguised as news where an SCCC representative was scrambling to absorb the stranded ITT Tech students. SCCC, where a connected developer just happened to have built a dorm (an ugly building) just in time for the push for “free” two-year degrees. The dorm where “students” from downstate fought with a knife over food. Yep, they have a bright future ahead of them in STEM.
    New York’s AG seemed to go quiet about the Trump fraud lawsuit. Is it because people started looking at Bill Clinton and his ties to Laurentian? Was it time to get off that topic?
    Hillary Clinton has called for degrees in public service. Another thing you will need a degree for, to keep the Higher Ed racket going. And what for, anyway? Those in power, no matter what party, will still hire the ‘best’ (most connected) at salaries befitting their ‘best’ status, no matter what education or experience anyone outside the circle has. What, for instance, was Andrew Cuomo’s expertise, which led his daddy to attempt to hire the 22 year old at a high salary, while simultaneously kicking hospital workers to the curb? The lowest paid hospital workers, the ones that used to keep things antiseptic to lower your risk of getting sicker in the hospital.
    Speaking of health, and Hillary, the MSM/her supporters (same diff) are trying now to spin this latest episode as heroic or something. BS. So determined was she, to paint anyone questioning her health as Republican and politically motivated, she would not seek treatment for alarming symptoms, and chose instead to cough all over everybody and call it allergies. Allergies can be controlled with OTC medicines long enough to get through a public appearance. Hers are different, I guess.
    Finally seeking treatment, she learns she has pneumonia. But can she, at that point, heed medial advice and rest? Hell no! She isn’t going to let all the Americans who have been insisting she’s sick be right!
    Good Lord, she was leaning on a bollard, weaving like a drunk, and lost the use of her feet. There is more going on there than pneumonia.
    I’ve seen where some of her female supporters have tried to make it a feminist issue, women and the heat, not like men, blah blah blah. Isn’t that exactly the argument the misogynists who want to keep women out of full participation in public life use? Oh, mercy me, it was just a little old case of the vapors, she ain’t no ways tahrd. Just a little swooning spell. Overheated, yet no one helped her off with her jacket? Has she never heard the old maxim about what to do if you can’t stand the heat? How about the tried and true “Sit down before you fall down!”
    Sheesh.
    I find myself a Deplorable. Okay, I imagine that someone as dirty as the Democrats are does deplore people like me. Good.
    I do not share the disdain for Mr. Trump’s intelligence, he’s smarter than Hillary, smarter than Obama, and because he doesn’t have the whole thing exactly figured out yet, should that disqualify him? Who does? And who else is standing up? I think it’s way past time for people who claim to care about their fellow Americans, to stop the jeering from the sidelines and start cheering him on, but that’s just my humble opinion.
    A lot of Americans who are that much little bit better off than the rest of us, don’t really care what happens as long as they get to keep theirs, and I think Hillary appears to offer them the best chance of hanging on to the status quo. For a period of time.

    • Elrond Hubbard September 13, 2016 at 1:23 pm #

      Beryl of Oyl: “Lost my whole comment before I submitted it. Sigh.”

      Yeah, that sucks. That’s why I routinely select all and copy my message to the clipboard before clicking the Submit button. Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C on Windows; adjust as appropriate for Macs, etc. Practise your finger macros enough and it becomes fairly effortless.

      • dannyboy September 15, 2016 at 3:46 pm #

        keep ’em to a few words

        reduce your exposure

        all upside that way

    • Bigskyguy58 September 14, 2016 at 6:19 pm #

      My wife and I are deplorables too!

  25. Bro Jobe September 12, 2016 at 1:18 pm #

    Rogoff’s book demonstrates how academia has, for the most part, lost sight of any public-service mission. Our brightest might be rallying against the way money has, to use JHK’s term, become “notional.”

    No thank you, Professor Rogoff. I like cash.

    As for another issue here, for the populace “Their right to vote is a danger to themselves”? It has been clear for a while, maybe all the way back to the election of Andrew Jackson if not before.

    So how do we keep dunces of all colors, ethnicity, and levels of education from voting without traipsing once again down the Jim Crow highway?

    • volodya September 12, 2016 at 1:32 pm #

      Lost sight of any public service mission? Surely you’re being all too generous to that gang of charlatans.

      But besides having lost sight of any service to the public, they’ve lost their fucking marbles. Seeing what’s under their nose is adaptive, NOT seeing is mal-adaptive.

      Maybe natural selection is only one half of the mechanism of evolution, it is nonetheless relentless and merciless. Anyone advocating such poppycock as Rogoff does I would put well down the road to dodo-hood.

      Just an any organism is subject to real-world reality testing, so are societies. And any society subscribing to such silliness I would say is on the road to that garbage dump of failed arrangements (tm JHK).

  26. Doug September 12, 2016 at 1:53 pm #

    Sorry, you lost me when you start by saying that Trump has “zero command of ideas.” What a load of crap. Trump has nearly 100% defined the conversation during the entire primary season and continues in the election season.

    It’s Hillary has absolutely nothing to say, no new ideas except knee-jerk gov’t interventions instead of actually addressing root causes and, of course, more government spending. Her and Obama call spending “investment” but it’s funny that after $9 Trillion in new debt or “investment” we HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT! It’s all pissed away!

    So, yeah, keep your head in the sand about Trump’s policy speeches on immigration, bringing back jobs from Asia, his detailed tax and economic policies that will repatriate jobs and help the economy. No ‘command of ideas’ my ass.

    It’s Hillary that is dumb as a stump with ZERO ideas and nothing by lies, incompetence, failures and self-enrichment for her entire “public career.” She’s a grifter, faker, liar and an incompetent par excellence. She’s Christina De Kirchner and the US is Argentina. Obama is Hugo Chavez-lite and America is sliding to 3rd world status: gulfcoastcommentary.blogspot.com/2016/07/americas-march-to-3rd-world-status-then.html

    Cheers

    • Beryl of Oyl September 12, 2016 at 2:52 pm #

      Bravo!

    • Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 3:20 pm #

      Quite so. As the anonymous author of the Flight 93 article said: anyone could have done what Trump did and a few people had one issue down – like Tancredo on immigration. But for some reason, none of them could just come out and say all of what had to be said. No doubt because they were beholden to those who would not like it and would not fund them if they did.

      The Establishment simply no longer allows Truth in all of her splendor to be displayed. Thus they are no longer viable and it fell to an outsider, a brash, boorish barbarian to do it. There’s some truth to that, but stupid? I seriously doubt that. Was Alaric stupid? Attila? Genghis Khan? Timurlame?

      If he didn’t have these qualities, he probably wouldn’t have the stomach for the fight. Nor would he attract so many White American Men – the most downtrodden group of all.

      On a higher level, creative intellectual genius is positively associated with asocial tendencies. One needs aggression to storm heaven. A genius without this will be good at solving puzzles – and little else.

      • JimInFlorida September 13, 2016 at 6:49 pm #

        The Devil’s wrath and lust for revenge in Milton’s, “Paradise Lost,” has finally been achieved. His Jewish agents, demons both dressed and slovenly, and feckless quislings, have overthrown White European Christian America and have raised the black flag of ZOG Amerika.

        Now we are looking for our own Moloch to rouse us with words of war and revenge!

        Trump, Scepter’d Billionaire
        Stood up, the strongest and the fiercest Candidate
        Who defeated eunuchs of his Party; now emboldened by prayer from afflicted Whites:
        His trust was with th’ Harpy to be deem’d Equal in strength.
        And rather be less, refus’d to be at all.
        With that care lost went all his fear of Jews, Hell, and Hollywood.
        He reck’d not and did give voice to White souls
        Cast out of their rightful place in The West.

        My sentence is for open Warr:
        Of Political Correctness, I fear not.
        Millions of afflicted Whites stand in Arms, and longing wait
        The Signal to ascend, daring to speak apostasy openly.
        That in our proper motion we ascend up to our native seat Descent and fall to us is adverse
        Shall we suffer Political Correctness by reason of fear?
        No, let us rather choose
        Arm’d with White Identity and God’s natural order for men
        O’re Washington’s hellish guardians, misfits of gender and race
        Turning our Offense into Fiery Rebuke
        Against the Offenders. When the Jewish power raises
        The Mighty Wurlitzer, they shall hear
        Infernal Thunder and, for Lightning see
        White Fire and horror shot with equal rage
        Against the New Left and AIPAC itself
        Mixt with Tartarean Sulphur and strange fire.

      • Doug September 15, 2016 at 12:56 pm #

        “In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act” And here we are.

    • dannyboy September 12, 2016 at 8:36 pm #

      “Trump has nearly 100% defined the conversation during the entire primary season and continues in the election season.”

      like WWE

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  27. fodase September 12, 2016 at 3:19 pm #

    twitter.com/darreldrowland/status/775392278579974144

    scroll down to see the film crew that filmed honest hillary having an honest pneumonia attack (“honest, folks!”)

    the body double “conspiracy” will likely turn out to have legs, too,
    since it’s becoming incresingly noticeable, the discrepancy between
    the aspiring thief in chief and the being that appears all chipper from chelsea’s apartment.

    i know i’d go to my daughter’s apartment to play with her 2 young children if i had potentially contagious pneumonia and collapsed, too, gosh.

    you can’t fix stupid, like they say. and you can’t reason with unreasonable people.

    fodase

    • Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 3:24 pm #

      As I began to fall a hand grasped mine – it is the hand of LaSalle! The French have entered Toledo. The Inquisition is in the hands of its enemies.

      God has stuck down our Foe. May His name be praised in all the Land. His Chosen One is ready to assume the position prepared for him. Any that try and stop this will be thwarted and/or struck down as well.

      It is too early to sing the Munchkin song. But we can begin practicing.

  28. aibohphobia September 12, 2016 at 3:42 pm #

    Its no surprise that Kenneth Rogoff advocates the centralization of currency. He has been advocating “Financial Repression” for years–This is a technical name for a central government scheme to pay off the national debt by sucking the purchasing power out of savings and bank deposits. Here’s a link if anyone is interested;

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_repression

    The US Govt, and probably most other Western governments, are already doing this.

  29. Janos Skorenzy September 12, 2016 at 3:43 pm #

    bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-12/duterte-says-u-s-special-forces-must-leave-southern-philippin…

    He probably realized that they were there to help the Muslim insurgency.

  30. FincaInTheMountains September 12, 2016 at 4:08 pm #

    Republicans are just in a state of permanent orgasm, and, denying the role of Barack Obama in the fact that the case of Hillary Clinton was referred to the Department of Justice, and thus becomes criminal, claim that Joe Biden’s next.

    finance.yahoo.com/video/criminal-probe-hillary-clinton-email-192900726.html

  31. FincaInTheMountains September 12, 2016 at 4:17 pm #

    Don Juan in a skirt could not resist a handshake of three thousand Commanders.

    Hillary Clinton Fainting will undoubtedly go down in history on a par with a glass of water of Viscount Bolingbroke, or rather, with the eruption of the Eyjafjallajökull volcano, which in 2010 prevented the flight of aircraft and, as a result, the conversion of the funeral of victims of the plane crash in Smolensk in anti-Russian coven.

    Although the danger that Hillary Clinton presents is slightly higher than the risk of war of the Spanish Succession, which killed about 10 million people, but there is hope that the power of her evil will not exceed the capacity of the Duchess of Marlborough, or Catherine de Medici, who organized the massacre of St. Bartholomew and religious war in France. Thank God that these women are not born often, than once a century.

  32. fodase September 12, 2016 at 4:32 pm #

    From the Columbus Dispatch:

    “DAYTON — While Hillary Clinton’s health is fine, Tim Kaine is “ready to become the president” if that ever becomes necessary, ex-Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland said today before the Democratic running mate spoke at Stivers High School.”

    You have to love the opening words, shows you just how much critical thinking is required to be a democrat party supporter.

    This is a real eye opener. Anyone confirm this is faked? If not, it should be grounds for looking into ending her candidacy:

    youtube.com/watch?v=azUpfzDNxpw

    It could be faked.

    fodase

    • Dumbedup September 13, 2016 at 11:43 am #

      How much critical thinking went into the discussion about invading Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? And Republicans say Democrats lack critical thinking skills. You don’t have to think critically … you just lie.

    • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 12:38 pm #

      “Tim Kaine is “ready to become the president” if that ever becomes necessary”

      that was my first thought upon hearing about H. Clinton. Kinda’ how we got that Great President Lyndon B Johnson.

      Wouldn’t it be Great to get such a Wonderful outcome after this annoying campaign season?

  33. wpa_ccc September 12, 2016 at 5:20 pm #

    “TPTB aren’t buying gold so, it’s only being churned amongst the hoi polloi” –JiminFlorida

    Gold? Or pieces of paper or electrons that say you “own” gold? How is that paper any different than fiat money?

  34. wpa_ccc September 12, 2016 at 5:50 pm #

    “So the story is that Hillary has pneumonia. How do we know it isn’t just another load of codswallop?” –volodya

    Jesus, volodya, your skepticism is off the charts. How do we know? Because a competent physician, who has taken an oath, has stated it is pneumonia. The physician is an ethical person who does not lie.

    That is how we know. You start doubting everything and things will not end well for you. If you start asking “how do we know” of everything you will end up a nihilist.

    • Dumbedup September 13, 2016 at 11:45 am #

      It is awfully convenient that she went to her daughter’s apartment and not to a hospital or a clinic. The woman could not stand on her own. I’m not sure she was conscious.

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 12:39 pm #

        have you seen her daughter’s apartment?

        …beautiful!

  35. Kevvia Knack September 12, 2016 at 5:58 pm #

    Hillary needs to put more starch in her pantsuits.

  36. AHtheHumanity September 12, 2016 at 6:07 pm #

    I thobk money has always been a political tool to encourage the masses to serve the creator of money and the establishment on agreed upon value. The people watching the shell game played by the elite are waiting for a pay out that will never come. Bush gave the people a thousand bucks tax season, obama gave a cellphone in every hand…what will trump/hillary manage to pull out of a hat to make their seat of power concrete to the rest of the struggling voters?
    A wall…vs…a what?

    • wpa_ccc September 12, 2016 at 6:30 pm #

      “a cellphone is every hand” –AHtheHumanity

      No, a cellphone in 10 million hands, out of 330 million Americans.

      Obamaphones are part of the Lifeline Assistance is a program of the FCC that helps over 10 million Americans who cannot afford a phone and service, in order to help them keep in contact with employers, family, and medical and emergency services.

      Hillary will give us four intelligent Supreme Court judges.

  37. fodase September 12, 2016 at 6:22 pm #

    it’s agreed on all sides now that hillary is very, very ill and has been lying about her health the entire campaign

    no worries, though, wpa, she only has pneumonia, even the honest doctor said so, and gosh, the doc took an oath!

    headbob hillary: youtube.com/watch?v=Hd4NH9jKNas

    JHK your party is the party of inveterate liars and you know it

    • wpa_ccc September 12, 2016 at 7:07 pm #

      “even the honest doctor said so, and gosh, the doc took an oath” –fodase fodase

      That’s right! A few days of antibiotics and she’ll be back on the road again, telling the truth about Trump, the birther, racist, and conspiracy theorist.

      “NEW YORK — When a black woman asked to rent an apartment in a Brooklyn complex managed by Donald Trump’s real estate company, she said she was told that nothing was available. A short time later, a white woman who made the same request was invited to choose between two available apartments.”

      In fact, discrimination against black people has been a pattern in Trump’s career. He treats racial groups as monoliths. Trump has trashed Native Americans, too

      Trump attacked Muslim Gold Star parents of a war hero.

      Trump claimed a judge was biased because “he’s a Mexican.”

      The Justice Department sued Trump’s company… twice… for not renting to black people.

      Trump refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him.

      Trump questions whether President Obama was born in the United States, and led the birther movement, sending private detectives to Hawaii. “They are finding amazing things” … Of course, Trump never says what those things are, and now refuses to talk about it.

      Trump encouraged the mob justice that resulted in the wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five.

      Trump condoned the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester.

      Trump called supporters who beat up a homeless Latino man “passionate.” The law and order candidate does not respect the law.

      Trump stereotyped Jews and shared an anti-Semitic meme created by white supremacists.

      Trump treats African-American supporters as tokens to dispel the idea he is racist.

      • elysianfield September 12, 2016 at 7:49 pm #

        Trump attacked Muslim Gold Star parents of a war hero.

        Trump claimed a judge was biased because “he’s a Mexican.”

        The Justice Department sued Trump’s company… twice… for not renting to black people.

        Trump refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him.

        Trump questions whether President Obama was born in the United States, and led the birther movement, sending private detectives to Hawaii. “They are finding amazing things” … Of course, Trump never says what those things are, and now refuses to talk about it.

        Trump encouraged the mob justice that resulted in the wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five.

        Trump condoned the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester.

        Trump called supporters who beat up a homeless Latino man “passionate.” The law and order candidate does not respect the law.

        Trump stereotyped Jews and shared an anti-Semitic meme created by white supremacists.

        Trump treats African-American supporters as tokens to dispel the idea he is racist.

        Give Trump a break…he has made mistakes, fell in with a bad crowd (who ate his lunch), but he is turning his life around… actively seeking employment…he’s really a good kid….

  38. wpa_ccc September 12, 2016 at 7:20 pm #

    “I think, maybe, we should have no moderator,” Trump said on CNBC. “Let Hillary and I sit there and just debate. I think the system is being rigged so it’s going to be a very unfair debate. And I can see it happening right now. Everyone’s saying that [Lauer] was soft on Trump. Well now, the new person’s going to try and be really hard on Trump just to show the establishment what he can do. So, I think it’s very unfair what they’re doing. I think we should have a debate with no moderators, just Hillary and I sitting there talking.”

    ============

    See how the bully now wants to take advantage of a sick woman who might not live long enough to get to the debates?

    • elysianfield September 12, 2016 at 7:50 pm #

      ” a sick woman who might not live long enough to get to the debates?”

      Inshallah!

      • wpa_ccc September 12, 2016 at 8:21 pm #

        LOL!

        Bismillah Er Rahman Er Rahim!

        May the most compassionate and merciful God receive Hillary!

        • elysianfield September 13, 2016 at 1:43 pm #

          “w alhamd muhammad rasulih , sali alllah ealayh wasallam !”

          And praised be Mohammed, his messanger…Peace be unto him!

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 12:42 pm #

        e

        you Arabic?

        • elysianfield September 13, 2016 at 1:45 pm #

          “you Arabic?”

          Ashkenazi, or so I’m told….

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 1:53 pm #

            my Bother

            …it you said Arab, i would have written “my Cousin”!

          • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 3:11 pm #

            Why else did you bother to learn Yiddish? You could have studied Sanskrit, but an errant gene or two decided for you. Free will?

            As Kilgore Trout said, all of human history is en effort of a stranded alien to get the spare part he needs.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 7:22 pm #

            i studied yiddish and sanskrit

          • elysianfield September 13, 2016 at 7:31 pm #

            Janos,
            Would that I were a polyglot. I picked up a bit of Yiddish here and there over my70 years. What I am conversant in is “Google”…you can translate any language from English to…whatever…Uze Beke Beke Beke Stani, if you like.

            Took Latin for two years in High School…”…the lieutenant’s horse looks at the grain”…Jesus!

          • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 9:46 pm #

            Ok. I think everyone is Jewish. Sometimes I think I am Jewish. One time on the phone I was about to spell out a word, but I couldn’t think of any word starting with n except nigger. I stopped myself in time!

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:11 pm #

            j

            here’s the test (“Ok. I think everyone is Jewish. Sometimes I think I am Jewish.”):

            if you are pissed and hostile (it happens), DO YOU SWEAR IN YIDDISH?

  39. HowardBeale September 12, 2016 at 7:36 pm #

    At this point in surreal nightmare, one can only come to a single conclusion: The real puller of strings is either an end-of-times religious zealot or absofuckinglutely insane–and, yes, that is one conclusion.

    I was pissed off during the NASDAQ bubble of the 90s; I was furious with the real estate bubble and left the country for a few years; now I am fucking insanely pissed off, and I don’t know where that is going to take me if the opportunity arise…

    • elysianfield September 12, 2016 at 7:54 pm #

      …Sooo, you’re mad as Hell, and you’re not gonna take it anymore?

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 1:54 pm #

        i got me window open

        but i didn’t say anything, because you haven’t instructed yet

        does that count?

        how long to i stand here?

        • elysianfield September 13, 2016 at 7:35 pm #

          “how long to i stand here?”

          Until your Shabbos Goyim closes the window….

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:12 pm #

            and then he can operate the building elevator

  40. dweebus September 12, 2016 at 8:51 pm #

    JHK-

    I am so glad for your post this week. If ZIRP is driving savers into penury, then a cashless system will lead to NIRP during the next crisis, and there will be one. Rogoff as much as admits it.

    This is pure theft by the Fed, nothing less, and yes, it will kill money, or the faith in it. After all, that faith is all that makes money a standard of account and a store of value.

    • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 10:18 am #

      It is “the love of money” that must be killed.

      Actually it must be put to death, by individuals, in their own hearts. The FED cannot do it.

  41. BackRowHeckler September 12, 2016 at 8:51 pm #

    This distinguished Harvard Professor, Kenneth Roggoff, is a big promoter of negative Zirp, in essence you, paying the bank for holding your money. He has a lot of faith in Zirp and postulates it will ‘boost the economy’. His big fear is that if negative interest rates (which seem to me to be a form of theft) are imposed, depositers will simply pull their money from the bank and bury it in the backyard. For that reason cash has to go.

    I still have a few gold coins my great uncle (a WW1 vet) hid away from the feds in the early 30s when possession of gold became illegal. I was a little kid when he gave them to me; he did so with great solemnity and instructed me not to tell anybody I had them.

    brh

    • dweebus September 12, 2016 at 8:56 pm #

      I have some coinage too. I’tll be our little secret.

      Yes, I agree, NIRP is theft, pure and simple.

      • wpa_ccc September 12, 2016 at 10:00 pm #

        You voluntarily choose to park your money in a financial institution. How is that theft? You went there, filled out papers and willingly gave them your money. How is that theft? They charge for safekeeping of your money.

        Are self-storage units theft? You voluntarily choose to park your belongings there. How is that theft? They charge for safekeeping of your personal belongings. How is that theft?

        Seems to me “theft” implies a non-voluntary taking of your stuff/money. NIRP does not qualify.

        • BackRowHeckler September 12, 2016 at 10:53 pm #

          Changing the rules of the game … looting bank accounts instead of paying an agreed upon interest rate, is theft, pure and simple.

          brh

          • wpa_ccc September 12, 2016 at 11:20 pm #

            brh, we are talking about an imaginary issue. I would wager no one on CFN is losing money through NIRP. If you are, take your money out of the bank. Refuse to do business with the NIRP banks.

            Put your money into a credit union that is insured by the National Credit Union Administration (NCUA). They pay positive interest rates. I am getting a 2% interest on my credit union checking account. Try finding a bank that will pay you 2% interest on your bank checking account. You’ll be lucky to find a 1% account.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 9:29 am #

            “Changing the rules of the game … looting bank accounts instead of paying an agreed upon interest rate, is theft, pure and simple.

            brh”

            Study the history of banking. Early banking offered safekeeping at a price. Yes, pay a fee to deposit. Even now, the bank didn’t guarantee an interest payment on your deposit.

          • elysianfield September 13, 2016 at 7:38 pm #

            “Even now, the bank didn’t guarantee an interest payment on your deposit”

            Dannyboy,
            Nor can or will the bank guarantee that you will get any of your money back. Even the Fed won’t guarantee that. You are, I am sure conversant with risk assessment…what interest rate should the banks currently pay to mitigate potential risk?

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

            e

            it’s worse than you think. Recent Regulations allow Depository Institutions to confiscate YOUR deposits first (“Bail-ins”).

            Who uses banks?

          • elysianfield September 14, 2016 at 6:05 pm #

            d,
            I fully understand Bail-ins…hence the risk…c’mon, give us some risk assessment…what interest rate should the banks offer for the risk involved?

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 7:05 pm #

            who uses banks?

            or, to put it differently

            why use a bank?

            answer: Banks are for Bankers. You lose

        • dweebus September 13, 2016 at 9:54 am #

          wpa-

          You just don’t get it, do you? If the only bills legally in circulation were to be $10s, $5s, and $1s, as Rogoff advocates, they render it impossible to remove your money in the bank, once you get paid, and hold it in cash. Can you imagine a few grand in 5s. What an enormous pain in the ass.

          Then, during the next “downturn” the Fed implements NIRP. You can’t hold all your assets in small bills, so you are forced, involuntarily, to turn over a percentage of your dough to recapitalize said bank. You didn’t sign up for this, never agreed to it, and now have no choice.

          First of all, I don’t use storage sheds. If I have so much shit, that I can’t use, and don’t need, and have no room for, I have too much shit.

          But to use your analogy, when I sign up for the shed, and pay $30/ mo., that is an upfront deal. But then the Federal Shed Authority comes in and says the shed bidness is threatening the economy, so to stabilize the various shed outfits, we will now take one item out of your shed (worth $5), effectively raising your shed rate to $40.

          BTW, you cant have access to any of the shit in your shed without reporting exactly when, where, why, and how you are using your shit. NIRP is theft. Dig?

  42. dweebus September 12, 2016 at 9:04 pm #

    Recently, my car died and I had to replace it. I paid cash.

    Now, understand had I been pulled over, the cops could have confiscated the cash as “suspicious”. Rogoff’s proposal puts that on steroids. He advocates a “federal debit card”.

    So the IRS, DHS, FBI, NSA, and all the other acronyms have instant access to every transaction you make, date, time, and GPS stamped.

    Isn’t that awesome? Whether you lean right or left, that should scare the bejeezus outta you.

  43. Dumbedup September 12, 2016 at 10:37 pm #

    Great blog post Jim. You hit on 2 of the most important issues as we wind down from ZIRP, QE and the fake economic growth of the last 35 years. Number 3 would be the racket that healthcare and insurance has become in this country.

    I think the reason Putin is a target is because he is trying to create an alternate method for trade and exchange that would supplant western economic hegemony. Or at least compete with it. Hillary wants to preside over this system and Putin stands in her way.

    • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 12:46 pm #

      “Hillary wants to preside over this system and Putin stands in her way.”

      kinda’ like those insects ‘in the way’ of walking.

      I hear some Jain’s sweep those insects. Personally, I don’t.

  44. wpa_ccc September 12, 2016 at 10:59 pm #

    “he did so with great solemnity and instructed me not to tell anybody I had them.” –brh

    Yes, that is what a gold-based economy does. It promotes fear, secrecy, distrust, paranoia, and violence. You have your gold. Somebody else might want it. You don’t know who. You begin to distrust others. You are willing to shoot them. Money over life.

    Banks solve that problem. Banks have your fiat money. They keep it safe. You don’t live with paranoia. You don’t distrust your neighbors. If someone else wants your money, and manages to get it by robbing the bank, the funds are insured, and you don’t lose your money. Life over money.

    For that security the bank can charge NIRP, with your express permission. Nobody forces you to do business with a bank. You could decide to live with fear, distrusting your neighbors, with no insurance, should someone manage to steal your money. Your choice.

    • BackRowHeckler September 12, 2016 at 11:34 pm #

      WPA CCC

      As a southwesterner, are you familiar with the writer J Frank Dobie?

      brh

      • wpa_ccc September 12, 2016 at 11:39 pm #

        No, I’ve heard the name. That’s about it. I am not a native southwesterner.

        • JimInFlorida September 13, 2016 at 8:08 pm #

          Just come out and admit you are a tenured Jewish female professor of Women’s Studies at some feminist hellhole, like Mt. Holyoke or Bryn Mawr. The fact that you are untouchable means you can effectively be a paid troll when you’re not in class; indoctrinating your hairy lesbian students.

          You might have a temporary crib in AZ but, you fly back home to march in defense of every LGBTQ freak show in Massachusetts or PA.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 12:07 am #

        Do you prefer Louie LaMour or Zane Grey – and why?

        • wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 12:13 am #

          Zane Grey. Because his were the books read by my elders. I have not read either author. Nasty stuff taking land away from the natives and killing them, when there could have been peace, like how the Quakers made friends with the natives and treated them well. The friendly relations between the Quakers and American Indians began when William Penn signed a peace treaty with Tammany, the leader of the Lenni Lenape (Delaware) nation.

          • BackRowHeckler September 13, 2016 at 12:59 am #

            ‘Riders of the Purple Sage’

            You gotta love that title.

            Zane Grey’s granddaughter was a neighbor, in fact a close relative bought her house.

            Zane Grey, America’s 1st millionaire author.

            Ernest Hemingway kept a copy of Zane Grey’s book on deep sea fishing on his boat ‘Pilar’, and would read from it daily almost like some people read the bible.

            brh

          • pequiste September 13, 2016 at 9:34 am #

            I’m voting for The New Riders of The Purple Sage:

            youtube.com/watch?v=uyPYM5uUViI

            Hippie Country Classic – Panama Red!

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 1:49 pm #

            “would read from it daily almost like some people read the bible.

            brh”

            …or like some people read Elmore Leonard

            He wrote WESTERNS!

          • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 2:37 pm #

            Dan, float this idea out to your contacts: A Western called “The Deplorables” about a gang of Whites fighting illegal aliens along the border. It’s a winner if ever a winner was. You guys can tweak it – maybe get Kinky Friedman as one of the White Cowboys. You guys always love to cover all the numbers so even when you lose, you don’t lose everything – and keep the door open for more victories.

            Let bring back the genre in a big way, make it relevant again.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 2:51 pm #

            j, you continue to misread “You guys” with “about a gang of Whites fighting illegal aliens along the border”.

            we don’t take sides in these things. taking sides would mean losing some. “We guys” don’t play that.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

            You risk much. One has to take sides sometimes, not to choose is to choose. And of course you have chosen already.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 5:17 pm #

            “And of course you have chosen already.” – j

            I HAVE BEEN chosen.

            is it Dyslexia or dysgraphia?

  45. wpa_ccc September 12, 2016 at 11:56 pm #

    Changing the rules of the game … looting bank accounts instead of paying an agreed upon interest rate, is theft, pure and simple. –brh

    brh, it is a strange kind of theft you speak of. It is a theft that can only be accomplished through a voluntary contract with your signature on it, indicating your agreed upon complicity with the rules of thievery.

    When you open a savings or checking account, it is with the understanding that interest rates can go up or go down. Those are the rules of the game you agreed to.

    Once the interest rate goes into negative territory, I suggest you immediately close your account. Punish the central banks for their NIRP policy.

    • BackRowHeckler September 13, 2016 at 12:54 am #

      I agree. But the whole idea behind banning cash money is to make closing your account impossible,

      brh

      • wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 1:14 am #

        the whole idea behind banning cash money is to make closing your account impossible brh

        brh, I just did it. I had automatic deposits transferred from my big name bank account to an NCUA insured credit union account (that pays me 2% interest on my checking account). After the electronic deposits started going to the credit union, I could close out the commercial bank account.

        If you have electronic money going into an account, all you have to do is take responsibility for your finances and decide where your automatic deposits (entitlement payments, pension payments, social security payments, etc.) are going to go. Then close down the account that is not receiving any automatic payments.

        Pull yourself up by the bootstraps, brh, and don’t let yourself be pushed around by these big commercial banks. Learn from hippie cooperative principles. Withdraw your support of multinational institutions as much as possible.

        • BackRowHeckler September 13, 2016 at 1:20 am #

          Cash has not been done away with, yet.

          Anyway, I use small community banks and the credit union from when I worked for the Feds.

          brh

          • wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 1:39 am #

            Not only has cash not been done away with, I can’t believe we are still getting one penny of change for a 99 cent purchase paid for with a one dollar bill.

  46. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 12:30 am #

    TRUMP NOT TRANSPARENT

    Hillary Clinton on Monday responded to concerns about her health by calling on opponent Donald Trump to disclose his medical and financial information. … Trump should be “held to the same standard, not just as me, but of everybody else who has sought this job.”

    “I think it’s fair to say, Anderson, that people know more about me than almost anyone in public life,” she said. “They’ve got 40 years of my tax returns, tens of thousands of emails, a detailed medical letter report, all kinds of personal details.”

    “Compare everything you know about me with my opponent. I think it’s time he met the same level of disclosure that I have for years,” she continued.

    Last year, Trump’s physician, Dr. Harold Bornstein, wrote a brief letter boasting that the real estate mogul would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” Bornstein later admitted that he wrote the letter in five minutes.

    In addition, Trump has repeatedly refused to release his tax returns because he claims he is under audit. However, the IRS has noted that audits do not prevent an individual from disclosing their financial information.

  47. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 12:37 am #

    “Give Trump a break…he has made mistakes, fell in with a bad crowd (who ate his lunch), but he is turning his life around… actively seeking employment…he’s really a good kid….” –Elysianfield

    Trump has been given multiple opportunities to release his tax returns and has refused.

    Trump has been given multiple opportunities to provide detailed medical information based on an actual medical exam, and he has refused.

    Trump has been urged by his handlers to pivot and act presidential. He has complied by reading the teleprompter like any good politician, but then he wanders off and begins attacking people needlessly.

    Trump does not have the qualifications to be president. His opponent is overqualified for the job.

    Trump is incorrigible and he will destroy the USA, which is perhaps what some people want.

    • elysianfield September 13, 2016 at 10:51 am #

      “Trump is incorrigible and he will destroy the USA, which is perhaps what some people want.”

      “Sometimes you have to destroy the village to save it…” Anon

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 12:49 pm #

        “destroy the USA, which is perhaps what some people want.”

        isn’t that the credo here on CFN Comments?

        is there more to it here?

        • elysianfield September 13, 2016 at 1:35 pm #

          Dannyboy,
          The reference is to indicate revolutionary change, not evolutionary change… In an era of political gridlock, are their other options?

          Do not confuse revolutionary change with a call to revolution…no one on this site wants revolution…metaphorical statements notwithstanding, and those are not to be taken literally.

          We all would like to live in “admittedly upscale neighborhoods”, be long on gold, diamonds, etc, and have a running tab at Plato’s Retreat…. Effective change will give the lumpen the potential opportunity to live large….

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 1:45 pm #

            “no one on this site wants revolution…metaphorical statements notwithstanding, and those are not to be taken literally.”

            e, i want what is best for everyone. Let’s begin with wanting you to see the truth.

            “”no one on this site wants revolution” – e please hold on to some shred of your credibility. how’s about jimisinfloridasoiamnot? And others.

            “metaphorical statements notwithstanding, and those are not to be taken literally.” – e, and you feel hillary uses words craftily. Can you really attempt to deny all the hostility i read hear with “metaphorical statements notwithstanding, and those are not to be taken literally.”?

            i am being metaphorical, of course

            goes without me having to say. that’s the e-Rule of CFN Comments.

            P.S. Plato’s closed, but my wife did buy me a lovely lounging robe and pajama set from Brooks Brothers just this am. Woulda’ looked good there.

          • elysianfield September 13, 2016 at 6:59 pm #

            “P.S. Plato’s closed”

            I will have to scratch that one off my bucket list.

            If asked, JIF would not commit sedition by calling for a revolution in this country…ask him if he wants a revolution, or revolutionary change…. This site voices many strong opinions, but those offering the opinions are relatively intelligent and educated. A revolution would serve to destroy us all…it would be anything but bloodless.

            Does JIF REALLY want to kill all billionaires? Would he put a bullet into Warren Buffet’s head? Personally? Ask him.

            Hostility? Angst, fear and loathing? Those outside the bubble see it daily.

            Does Hillary use words “craftily”? I feel Hillary, being a lawyer, parses, shades, spins and lies with every (disingenuous) comment she makes…yes, she is “crafty”.

            I will admit that, throughout the last year’s comments, there was at least one commenter, here briefly, that overstepped the bounds of propriety and called for revolution, the overthrow of the US Government by the military…he was soon gone, and I can’t remember his handle…maybe he was arrested? Or someone ate his lunch? Who knows….

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 7:25 pm #

            hillary and me are being metaphorical

            she, maybe more

        • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 9:24 pm #

          “destroy the USA, which is perhaps what some people want.”

          America will survive the United States.

  48. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 12:54 am #

    Trump has used money from his charity to buy himself gifts. In one of those cases — not previously reported — Trump spent $20,000 of money earmarked for charitable purposes to buy a 6-foot-tall painting of himself.

    Still on the hunt for that Tim Tebow helmet that Trump is said to have bought himself with foundation money. The Trump camp’s story is that this helmet was given “to a child.” Kid, if you’re out there, you can come forward and perhaps begin the process of rehabilitating Trump’s reputation.

    Let’s face it, Clinton is still more likely to recover from her pneumonia faster. Her’s is a disease of the lungs, not the core. Trump’s corruption is who he is. Trump is using the donor money his campaign is receiving (OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY) from the Republican National Committee’s donor connection in the same manner he used other people’s charity… to enrich himself.

  49. Cold N. Holefield September 13, 2016 at 6:37 am #

    Guys, and gals, about the No Cash Economy — don’t sweat it. There will be no economy so No Cash is irrelevant. America’s going on a diet very soon, or I should say, most of America. Venezuela is the Prototype for 1st World Countries for the next thirty years. It’s clear the 1% have no intention of letting The Little People down easy. It will be an extremely Hard Landing, but I assure you, they ( The 1%) will be just fine. You & You & You & You — not so much.

    Don’t hate them, though. They’re successful — you’re not. You didn’t make it on The Ark (a really large Yacht made out of Gopher Wood) and now you’ll drown with the rest of the rabble in your reward for subservience & compliance all these years. Remember they told you, “trust us & you will survive?” Well, they never mentioned what survival would look like, did they? The you’ll know — but, of course, it will be a little too late. Lobby for the legality of Euthanasia in all 50 states so any of us can check out as humanely as possible any time we please during our steady slide into despotism. Kevorkian will be a Patron Saint.

    • elysianfield September 13, 2016 at 10:56 am #

      “Kevorkian will be a Patron Saint”

      Cold,
      To some of us he currently is. His candor, intelligence, and honesty proved to be self-destructive…as one would expect. Janos, JIF take note.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 3:20 pm #

        Thank you. You are the Hard Case, the Walking Dude. You know the Justice of our Cause yet you simply don’t identify – like understanding a joke but not laughing.

        Given your background, both genetic and professional, you may be making the best possible choice in seeking Perfect Peace Profound.

        I was arguing with a Buddhist Jew online. What started as a vicious free for all between Awakened Whites and Jewish Tribalists evolved into me giving a Teaching to this man. His receptivity was amazing, like Arjuna on the Battlefield. Given his advanced age and indifferent health, I advised him not to look into the Jewish question but to seek the Pure Land. Only a Jew who has attained stream entry can possibly accept the Truth. But you know all this, as you know almost all things. Your situation is different and you are choosing well – as I already said.

        • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 5:20 pm #

          so you took advantage of his “advanced age and indifferent health” to talk to him about Judiasm.

          sounds like a felony, mortal sin, and low-life shit.

          • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 9:33 pm #

            Since when is it against the Law to talk to a Judahite about judaism?

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 9:55 am #

            it’s specific to j

        • elysianfield September 14, 2016 at 11:13 am #

          Perfect Peace Profound

          ““a portion of the esoteric position being obscured from him, he cannot honor it without betraying the truth he does see.”

          Ahhh, cuts right to the bone….

  50. Cold N. Holefield September 13, 2016 at 6:56 am #

    All of you pining for the Old Ways, keep in mind, the New Ways you despise would not have been possible or would not have manifested if not for the Old Ways providing the fertile soil, so maybe the Old Ways aren’t all they’re cracked up to be, otherwise, we wouldn’t be in this predicament.

    Civilization was the wrong path to take. It’s a Prison. But, once we opened up Pandora’s Box that is Civilization, there was, and is, no going back. Our fate is sealed. Abstraction has painted us into a corner. We will expand, dominate, exploit, pollute, denude & decimate until there is nothing left — not even US. It was a Devil’s Bargain from the very Start, but the promise of Surplus & Excess, the Apple if you will, was just too tempting to resist.

    All we can do really is watch and comment. It’s an Egregore at this point that is fed by us and feeds us. We are inextricably tethered to the only outcome possible for Civilization — Extinction of all Life.

    One could argue that without Civilization we would have gone extinct anyway. Maybe — but maybe not as soon or ever until the Sun ceased to shine or a meteor hit Earth and destroyed it entirely. We’ll never know. It’s a moot point. We’re chained to a destiny now, and there is no key to the lock for the chains that bind our wrists and ankles to our demise as a species and the demise of most if not all Life on Planet Earth.

    Considering the aforementioned, it’s appropriately fitting many of you, and many Americans, look to the Clown Donald Trump as The Savior. Satire is Dead. Reality is now Satire and it’s redundant to satirize Satire, but that won’t stop SNL from doing it anyway.

    • Dumbedup September 13, 2016 at 11:56 am #

      Holy crap that is a dismal picture. We are in the shitter that’s for sure, and it is getting worse. But there are quite a few good people out there willing to build; who are ready for the next step mankind must take. Maybe it is time for second coming. Maybe we can evolve. But we cannot believe that the only answer is extinction. At least I cannot.

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 12:50 pm #

        “But we cannot believe that the only answer is extinction. At least I cannot.”

        need to find another website to comment on then

  51. fodase September 13, 2016 at 8:43 am #

    well wpa i commend you on the 2% interest, seems no one knows that they don’t have to settle for 0.01% when you can get 20x that at a local bank.

    re doing away with cash, it’s clear that extremely wealthy individuals on this planet enjoy pushing little people around for their amusement.

    i think it really does boil down to that. reminds me of The Magus

    hillary will be replaced before the 1st debate, it’s already been settled, only the timing and scheming around the way to lie about it remains to be worked out.

    all the media are on board, of course.

    fodase

    • wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 8:54 am #

      “hillary will be replaced before the 1st debate, it’s already been settled” –fodase

      Who settled it? Will Donald survive long enough to debate? All those cheeseburgers can’t be good for your heart.

      usatoday.com/story/dispatches/2013/02/12/las-vegas-heart-attack-grill-death/1912493/

    • wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 9:19 am #

      fodase, I am updating Leary: “Tune in. Drop out. Go local.”

      • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 10:35 am #

        I prefer, “Workers of the World, DISPERSE!”

        Like John Galt would say, ‘stop producing the chains to hammer around the leg of your neighbor’. Hammer on the Truth.

  52. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 9:17 am #

    Pneumonia is no fun. It’s not to be wished on one’s worst enemy. But here’s the good news: America is not a developing nation, and if you have top notch health care here, pneumonia is eminently treatable.

    I’m not sure the same can be said about whatever affliction causes one to be a crazed, authoritarian goon. That probably takes many years of therapeutic intervention. As you consider what currently ails our two presidential candidates, which one is the sick one?

    Which candidate has a basket full of deplorable supporters who are white supremacists, violent ne-nazis, KKK thugs, antisemites, Muslim haters, and misogynists?

    • wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 9:26 am #

      Trump said that if elected president, he would consider appointing Supreme Court justices who would overturn marriage equality. Trump’s position on transgender bathroom access has shifted at different times in the campaign. And he has a history of making questionable comments about LGBTQ people. Trump’s running mate, Indiana Governor Mike Pence, signed anti-gay legislation that makes many kinds of discrimination legal across his state.

      Hillary Clinton is a strong proponent of LGBTQ rights, and she has received the endorsement of the Human Rights Campaign, one of the nation’s largest LGBTQ advocacy groups. If elected, Clinton would support federal legislation to ban all discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation, according to her campaign website. She would also make it easier for people to change their gender on official documents, take measures to support LGBTQ elders and youth, and work to promote LGBTQ rights worldwide.

      • JimInFlorida September 13, 2016 at 11:29 am #

        Thank you, wpa, for making it so clear that Hillary is hopelessly unfit to be POTUS or any other public service job. Not even as a dog catcher!

        Hillary would encourage interspecies mating between dogs and cats in the animal shelter and perform civil disobedience on behalf of termites. “The wood that used to be a living tree is being used to house White people!”

        Reparations demand that ALL WHITE HOMEOWNERS take in a colony of termites to make up for the lack of trees that would have died naturally and provided food for the termites and other forest scavengers.

        To be a normal straight White Male of European, Scandinavian, or Anglo descent is naturecrime and racecrime. To compensate for our natural advantage, we are required to renounce our ancestry and embrace the moldy hairshirt of LGBTQ to atone for the inherent sin of our mere existence.

    • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 10:38 am #

      Better than a basket of disposables [ diapers].

  53. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 9:39 am #

    After being diagnosed with pneumonia, Hillary gritted her teeth and continued to work hard… even with pneumonia… just like poor folks who cannot afford to miss work. It’s humanizing, relatable, and should help Hillary’s numbers go up.

    Hillary is so incredibly strong and so committed to working, even pneumonia did not stop her.

    She is so humble she didn’t even mention it until the combination of pneumonia with dehydration forced her to stop. (dehydration means she needs more liquids, which is easily remedied)

    • JimInFlorida September 13, 2016 at 11:08 am #

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    • BackRowHeckler September 13, 2016 at 3:52 pm #

      What kind of image is that wobbly old battle axe presenting to the rest of the world.

      A solid Dwight Eisenhower in 1954, a young vital John Kennedy in 1960, a determined Ronald Reagan in 1980, now in 2016, when what we need is good leadership, a sick old lady with a screechy voice and rubber legs, liable to go toes up any day. The Russians, the N Koreans, ISIS, Iran, they have to be licking their lips and rubbing their hands together at the prospect of a clinton presidency.

      brh

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 5:22 pm #

        “The Russians, the N Koreans, ISIS, Iran, they have to be licking” their balls and kissing their asses goodbye.

        …she’s got nuthin’ to lose

  54. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 10:51 am #

    Donald Trump says climate change is a “hoax” and never talks about it … Hillary Clinton takes it seriously and faces it head on.

    Last month was the hottest August ever recorded, marking the 11th straight month that global heat records have been shattered, according to NASA data. It also tied with July as the warmest month ever recorded since record-keeping began in 1880.

    • Lawfish September 13, 2016 at 1:22 pm #

      What exactly is hitting climate change head on? Jumping on an airplane and travelling all over the country, wasting fuel and dumping tons of carbon into the atmosphere, while acknowledging that we’ve fucked up the world? Will she ever propose any measure which would cut back on the American middle class lifestyle in any appreciable measure?

      That’s a rhetorical question in case you didn’t get it.

  55. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 11:07 am #

    Climate change is not a future problem, but rather one that we are actively dealing with.

    “We are feeling climate change impacts right here, right now,” Caldas continued. “From wildfires and droughts to devastating floods, climate change fingerprint is all around us and does play a role in making events more extreme. An example are this summer’s floods in Louisiana, caused by intense rains which were “at least 40 percent more likely to happen because of climate change,” according to research.

    • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 1:22 pm #

      Two things:

      The whole solar system is warmer. Deal with this idea first.

      Second, the spraying of aluminium particles, barium, and other reflective elements into the atmosphere to partially block solar radiation has unintended consequences ( unless of course you are cynical enough to follow the bouncing ball ). Some of the heat that would naturally be reflected back into space is captured on the way up and is also reflected to the planet, causing a greenhouse effect.

      Rather than ceasing operations, they double down. This is where cynicism comes in handy.

      http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org

      • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 1:53 pm #

        There is no question of if:

        earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/earthmatters/files/2016/09/tempanoms_gis_august2016.gif

        the question is why?

        • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 2:00 pm #

          “the question is why?”

          i was waiting for someone to ask.

          You see:

          The Universe is Expanding

          AND Energy is Increasing

          so’s

          baby it’s hot outside (in the Uni-Verse).

          • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 2:42 pm #

            What about entropy? If the universe is expanding, it should be running down. Unless it’s being resupplied from another dimension….

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 2:54 pm #

            Infinite Energy baby!

            but don’t tell kunstler, he’s got a good gig going

          • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 3:22 pm #

            So you do know about the Aether. Einstein is just for the Goyim.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 5:24 pm #

            I KNOW about Everything.

            and Einstein knew it too, but he could only explain so much to the masses. I can relate

          • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 10:14 pm #

            “I cleared up a lot of e’s dilemma about the Quantum Field and, just now, messianicdruid’s quandary about the solar system.”

            Hot nardly. The solar system is spiraling through space at 70,000 kph and is now beginning to encounter an area of greater electromagnetic energy. The expansion of the universe does not provide the additional heat, it is our location.

            The second part, which you conveniently ignored, is when the efforts at mitigation of global warming are only making matters worse, why do they continue spraying?

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 9:58 am #

            “The second part, which you conveniently ignored, is when the efforts at mitigation of global warming are only making matters worse, why do they continue spraying?” – messianicdruid

            i am glad that we agree on my explanation of the first part, and in the spirit of collaboration i offer my thoughts on your second:

            Everybody has got to be somewhere and everybody needs to do something.

      • elysianfield September 14, 2016 at 10:45 am #

        “The whole solar system is warmer. Deal with this idea first.”

        MD,
        The whole solar system is getting warmer…entropy notwithstanding? Got it…a possible solution then…paper or plastic? We gotta get this right….

  56. lostinspace September 13, 2016 at 11:11 am #

    The first time I got walking phenomena was the last week of boot camp. Fortunately I didn’t get really sick until graduation day. I told the drill sargent I wasn’t going to make it and he had me ride to the grandstand where a few people attended. The battalion stood on the parade field for probably a hour through the ceremony while I squatted next to the seats and when they marched off three or four now soldiers were passed out on the grass, all from my platoon.
    My question is how many reports of others getting sick have there been, She has surely been close to many more people than a boot camp soldier.
    I’m not sure walking phenomena is the correct name but I do know it requires antibiotics as it almost killed me several times since, hoping it would cure itself.
    Until there are reports of almost a epidemic I will consider Hillary’s excuse a lie.

    • lostinspace September 13, 2016 at 11:38 am #

      Just have to clarify I was to act as a usher for the guests. Had a really cool drill instructor, I was part of the first all volunteer army and the sargents either didn’t give a Shi or they were crazy.
      To add to my argument, isn`t a airplane a really good place to spread disease or even a seven passenger van.

      • lostinspace September 13, 2016 at 11:57 am #

        “Pneumonia” I hate my kindle sometimes

      • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 2:45 pm #

        It’s terrible how Billy Mummy’s career ended with Lost in Space. Penny had a modeling career at least.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

      Maybe it was the boogie woogie flu.

  57. volodya September 13, 2016 at 11:18 am #

    Walter B, as you say Too Big To Fail and Too Big To Jail will be the Kryptonite. Multiple examples, Wells Fargo being the latest.

    I guess you heard about it, this involving not just a few crooked traders and execs but thousands of employees and millions of accounts. It was Italianate in scale, “sandbagging” the euphemism, FRAUD the proper term.

    A truly spectacular, MASSIVE fraud, where millions of people found themselves with accounts and credit cards and debit cards they never applied for. And for which they were paying fees.

    But, this being the era of Too Big To Jail, the honcho in charge walks away with a 125 million buck severance. And, of course, the bank walks away from criminal charges.

    Two justice systems, one for people like Hillary and Wall Street who commit the most astounding abuses, and one for the Little People, who find themselves with multi-decade sentences for farting in the wrong direction. And the Washington-Manhattan Axis wonders why they’re hated.

    I can’t decide if Bill and Hill are symptoms or the disease itself. Doesn’t matter really. In any case, nothing they say RINGS true because nothing they say IS true.

    With the,Clintons the truth is something loathsome, a vile, slimy thing curled in the corner listening and watching, something to be avoided, something that makes them shudder. And, if the truth leaves its place in the shadows, something to be tenaciously obstructed at every turn.

    See, I have a family member that died a couple months ago. In the space of a year she was reduced by lung cancer to a wraith, wheezing in a wheel chair. The immediate cause of death? You guessed it, pneumonia.

    So Hillary has “pneumonia”. Maybe. We’ll see.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 2:48 pm #

      She has been struck down. Already ill no doubt, but the stress of the campaign has worsened whatever it is greatly. She is unfit to command. Thank the Gods, Trump’s path is now clear. There is hope.

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 2:55 pm #

        j’s got Hope and Change!
        just like the Black guy

  58. volodya September 13, 2016 at 12:10 pm #

    So, Cold, what do you think about Adam and Eve’s portrayal in Genesis? Innocents they were happily cavorting in the Garden, made specially for their enjoyment. And all they had to do was follow a couple simple directives, which of course, at the slightest provocation, they couldn’t do.

    But their Garden experience isn’t the important part. It’s what follows, an apparent transformation of human consciousness, one that becomes aware of nakedness, of issues of right and wrong, one that now worries about where to get the daily necessities.

    You can say don’t make such a big deal, it’s just a tribal origin story, one that asks questions and one that suggests answers. And it IS that. A SIMPLE question they must have asked: why is life so hard? Wasn’t it easier earlier on? Wasn’t there a time when tree branches were laden with fruit, when streams were jumping with fish, when all you had to do was to throw a stone and you got yourself wildfowl for dinner? And, people said, look at us now, scratching in the dirt for GRAIN, exalted grass seed, exhausted and half starved. How did this come to pass? Genesis may have given those suffering people some answers.

    But far from being ONLY a primitive origin story, it sounds to me more like one that has buried in it a lot of long contemplation of human nature, of what it is to be human, and from direct observation of folk that hadn’t yet made the transition to a settled farming life, one that has an awareness of how a material way of life alters values and perception, or IOW the contents of human consciousness. I’m no scholar of ancient religion and philosophy, but I suspect that the writer of the Epic of Gilgamesh had similar issues.

    To be a farmer in a village after all is a very different thing from being a nomadic hunter in a small clan. It requires different behaviors, different social structures, different ways of looking at the world, different adaptations.

    I think that Genesis was a distillation of far older stories that had been circulating for a long, long time. Millennia in fact. And by the time that Genesis was set in writing, the folks in the middle east had been settled for thousands of years. They had had all those years to think about how life had changed, how life was changing, but they weren’t so far removed from their roots as to have totally forgotten them. And they had a lot of time to re-work the old original stories.

    So here we are, we’re on the cusp of making yet ANOTHER transition, one that comes from the expiry of the warm nutrient bath (as JHK puts it) of all those formerly abundant hydrocarbons. But also a transition that comes out of 9 billion people straining the earth’s life support system beyond its capacities.

    How will human consciousness transform itself? How much of the trauma of the transition will be embedded in the consciousness of the survivors? What kind of Genesis story, ten thousand years from now, will they be re-telling around the fire-light?

    • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 2:07 pm #

      i’m hip to Adam and Eve, so you can ask any questions you have. I cleared up a lot of e’s dilemma about the Quantum Field and, just now, messianic’s quandary about the solar system.

      i give you a taste, just to whet your appetite for Knowledge. Human Consciousness keeps evolving, so don’t worry the speed bumps.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 2:58 pm #

      MANY believe such stories as they are part of Unconscious, both collective and individual – and of course, cultural. Look at the Feminists who believe life was hunky dory until the Kagan Shit Lords rode into Europe and imposed Patriarchy.

      Or Blacks who think Africa was “Afritopia” until Whites came.

      As to the reality, it’s complex I think. Hunter Gatherers do work much less and have more leisure – 16 hours per week in the harsh Kalahari where the Blacks pushed them. How much less in a rich land? But of course they could also starve during a bad year, but so can agriculturalists and herders. Perhaps something beyond convenience and survival makes cultures “advance”? A desire for power? Wealth? Religious glory, in the form of Temples and a full time priesthood made possible by the margin provided by the cultivation of grain?

      In any case, hunter gatherers do not live in Eden. The Bushmen fight each other over women, sometimes to the death with their poison arrows. And the Aborigines of Australia were more brutal still, hunting men from other tribes as game. War is not a function of civilization – it simply exists in a smaller form in smaller societies – all of which tend to be patriarchal to some degree at least.

      Our utopia if it ever comes, will partake of some of the values of the hunter gatherers. Obviously.

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 3:04 pm #

        “In any case, hunter gatherers do not live in Eden. The Bushmen fight each other over women, sometimes to the death with their poison arrows…

        Our utopia if it ever comes, will partake of some of the values of the hunter gatherers. Obviously.”

        YIKES!

        j, can you envision me “fight[ing] each other over women, sometimes to the death with their poison arrows”???????????????????????

        i can see some babes quarreling over me. but that’s about it.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2016 at 8:49 pm #

          Well I meant the leisure – a prerequisite for high culture.

  59. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 12:10 pm #

    Trump has brought on board Republican economic advisors. Trickle down is back. Trump the billionaire is a politically correct politician.

    Let the billionaires run everything. Get rid of pesky government regulations. Reduce taxes on the super rich. And then we will be pissed on again.

    The rich say cutting the top tax rate will lead to wage growth and job creation. If you look at the 1950s, the highest GDP was when we had the highest top tax rate (what rich people pay in taxes).

    Trump has sold out. He is not a populist. He is a billionaire. And he will make sure the rich get richer.

  60. dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 12:55 pm #

    O.K.

    I read 225 Comments (including my own, which, by the way, are certainly Above Average) and can’t help seeing the Irony in the bitching about the possibility that Money be extincted.

    Last week everyone was Bitching about not having any Money.

    Yous should be celebrating the possibility that everyone else would be shoulder-to-shoulded with yous.

    But No

    bitch, bitch, bitch

    • BackRowHeckler September 13, 2016 at 3:27 pm #

      Dan,

      Just trying to stick to the theme of the blog as presented by JHK on Monday morning.

      there’ll plenty of time as the week wears on to fly off into crazy tangents which have absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. That usually begins on Tues., right about now.

      brh

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 5:27 pm #

        Ok it’s Now, now.

        let ‘er rip!

        P.S. Also the idea of “stick[ing] to the theme of the blog as presented by JHK on Monday morning” is ludicrous. It would put that sole commenter out of EVERY DISCUSSION taking place on CFN.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 9:38 pm #

          So why do you constantly harangue people for doing this? Consistency isn’t your strong point is it? Or it’s just something for other people, eh?

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 9:59 am #

            i continue to grow

  61. Cold N. Holefield September 13, 2016 at 2:00 pm #

    volodya, well said and certainly in line with the sentiment I was exhibiting & conjuring. The Genesis Story of Man’s Origins is an excellent metaphor, I believe. The Irony is, it only became a story, as you say, after the Fall From Grace & Eden Lost. Prior to that, there was no need to abstract Man’s Origins when Man was too much in the Visceral Moment to countenance such a idle endeavor. It, quite simply, would have been counter-intuitive to stop and think when you could go & do.

    One wonders if the first Cave Art was performed during the Monsoon Season after discovering the Monolith shortly before. The Monolith, amongst many other things, brought the first notions of Reason & Abstraction, and shortly thereafter came language and then murder for purposes other than survival. And now, here we are, 40,000 years later ready to conquer our Solar System & Galaxy under the banner of Progress if we don’t destroy ourselves and devour & decimate everything else on Planet Earth first.

    Personally, I don’t think Man will make it and we will, more than likely, take the Planet with us into extinction. There is no way to put The Growth Genie back in the bottle.

    • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 2:10 pm #

      Cold (apt name),

      sorry that my Comment crossed yours on this topic. But as far as “if we don’t destroy ourselves and devour & decimate everything else on Planet Earth first.

      Personally, I don’t think Man will make it and we will, more than likely, take the Planet with us into extinction. There is no way to put The Growth Genie back in the bottle.” goes, don’t worry about that. Just a little negative thinking. May be the effects of reading all these dreary CFN Comments.

  62. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 2:45 pm #

    “Just look at the story of the beginning of the world. God said to Adam and Eve, “Don’t eat from the tree of knowledge, and don’t eat from the tree of life.”

    He had prohibited two trees. Both are the most significant things in life: wisdom and life — and God denies both. Then you can go on eating all kinds of grass and whatsoever you want. He does not say, “Don’t eat marijuana, don’t drink alcohol.” No, He is not interested in that. Adam and Eve can smoke grass, that is allowed; can make wine from grapes, that is allowed.

    Only two things are not allowed: they should not become knowers, they should remain ignorant; and they should not live, they should go on postponing life. And because they disobeyed and ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge…they could not manage to eat the second tree’s fruit, they were caught. After eating the fruit of knowledge they were speeding fast towards the tree of life but they were prevented immediately.

    It is natural: anyone who has awareness, consciousness — which are the qualities of wisdom — his first thing will be to go deeper into life, to taste it as much as possible, to connect himself with its center, to be drowned in the mystery of life.” –Osho

    • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

      “anyone who has awareness, consciousness — which are the qualities of wisdom”

      someone’s got it ass-backwards

    • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 3:04 pm #

      No, He said don’t eat of the Tree of Knowledge. They could eat of the Tree of Life and as long as they did, they did not age.

      Wisdom can only come from awareness. Even animals have “consciousness” – and it is not enough.

      You got everything wrong – F.

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

        maybe he goes to bars with osho and they get loaded

        that would explain the backwardness of things

        • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 5:01 pm #

          Oh did you go back into the archives and check up the Asoka files?

          Asoka was a masterpiece, far more detailed than the rather colorless wpa character.

    • Cold N. Holefield September 13, 2016 at 3:09 pm #

      There is no God — we’re discussing it as metaphor. What wisdom is there in turning a Paradise into a Wasteland because of Greed, Avarice and an Insatiable Curiosity that must fix what isn’t broken just for the hell of it? Last time I checked, Early Man didn’t invent Thermonuclear Weapons that can turn the planet into a cinder even though Early Man was just as intelligent as Modern Man. For 3 million years, Early Man avoided Civilization, or maybe dodged it, but then, something spectacular happened starting around 40,000 years ago. Man began to exercise Reason & Abstraction, and from that point forward, the Winter of Man’s Discontent settled in. With each new technological revolution, Man has increasingly tightened the noose around its neck. The deeper Man digs into the endless pit of technology, the harder it is to climb out. The point where Man can’t any longer is The Singularity. We’re at that point. We’re in too deep. We’ve gone to far. We’ve come undone. Man is Tuco in the scene linked to below and Blondie is the metaphorical God, except in my scenario, Blondie, considering Free Will, allows Tuco to hang himself once and for all without intervention.

      Man’s Fate Without Blondie To Shoot The Rope

      • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 4:57 pm #

        You might like raw foodism. Cooking food was the first crime, the “apple” of Eden. We should only eat fruit since the tree offers us the fruit without violence.

        • Cold N. Holefield September 13, 2016 at 5:24 pm #

          It’s not a matter of me liking or not liking anything. It’s a matter of what is and what can no longer be. We’ve gone too far. There is no turning back. The controls have been set for the Heart of the Sun.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 7:06 pm #

            We’ve gone too far. We’ve lost the Sun. We’ve come undone.

            Are you saying that the Sun is God, is watching, and is about to take action to save His daughter, the Earth?

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 5:34 pm #

        I love Blondie!

        youtube.com/watch?v=StKVS0eI85I

        also, all that stuff about early man is wrong

        • Cold N. Holefield September 13, 2016 at 6:06 pm #

          No, it’s not wrong. It is conjecture based on what scant evidence there is, just as anything you might proffer is conjecture based on what scant evidence there is.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 7:29 pm #

            i got The Inside

            …i got A Guy

          • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 10:39 pm #

            Man was denied the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge because he was not given the authority to DECIDE right and wrong.

            Deciding to not follow a simple instruction because a liar deemed it desirable. Children are protected because they are loved, but ignorant. Learning the hard way is often the only way.

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 10:02 am #

            “Man was denied the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge because he was not given the authority to DECIDE right and wrong.”
            – messianicdruid

            YES< YES< YES

            someone gets it!

            for the rest, there's always Ved or Torah, or…

  63. FincaInTheMountains September 13, 2016 at 3:01 pm #

    Ivanka, Donald Trump To Roll Out New Childcare, Maternity Leave Policy For Moms In Pennsylvania

    breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/13/ivanka-donald-trump-roll-new-childcare-maternity-leave-polic…

    Well, a goo start – something tangible!

    Russia, by the way, has 26 weeks of 100% paid maternity leave.

    Graphic of paid maternity leave by the country!

    images.newrepublic.com/94d5c18a9cb6174db34e9c9667957b2fe9619c18.png?w=800&q=65&dpi=1&…

    • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

      “Russia, by the way, has 26 weeks of 100% paid maternity leave.”

      ..because there’s no jobs

      • BackRowHeckler September 13, 2016 at 3:44 pm #

        Dan, to pick up an earlier thread, yes, Zane Grey wrote westerns, but spent most of his adult life on large boats fishing for Marlin and Tuna. He established a popular fishing camp in the Florida Keys around 1915; later on he fished off Australia, Indonesia, Mexico and the N Atlantic. His book on deep sea fishing is a classic.

        brh

        • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 4:55 pm #

          So you prefer him to Louie because his daughter was a neighbor or something?

          Your process drive me to despair – especially since you are an “everyman”.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 5:35 pm #

            j,

            now i know why i like BRH and not you

            you are contrary

          • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 7:09 pm #

            Of course you do – he is far more easily lead. Play a little patriotic music, show McAmnesty talking about Bibi as a man’s man, then an image of the American Flag and the Israeli Flag TOGETHER – and you’ve got him.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 7:31 pm #

            why don’t you try to be complementary, like me

            see how i just did it?

            you know, you get more bees with honey

  64. BackRowHeckler September 13, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

    Carrie Tolsted, Wells Fargo exec. (salary: $8 million yearly), the woman in charge of the unit responsible for a scam that created 2 million fake accounts to meet company sales goals, was fired, but at the same time was awarded $125 million at her exit.

    another 5000 lower level employees were fired as well, and not given nuthin’. Congress is investigating.

    brh

    • beantownbill. September 13, 2016 at 4:54 pm #

      Marlin, sorry to say, you’re fired. Pick up your $125 million check and leave now!

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 5:38 pm #

        again all this bitchin about someone getting money, that yous believe will be disappeared by us policy

        yous bitch about not having it yous bitch that what you ain’t got is being disappeared

        yous bitch about someone getting what’s being disappeared.

        am i right, or am i right?

      • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 10:34 pm #

        bbs.dailystormer.com/t/the-passion-of-tim-tebow-jews-control-professional-sports-here-s-why-it-matte…

        This will wake BRH up. Tim Tebow’s career has been destroyed because of his unrepentant Christianity.

        • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 10:04 am #

          j,

          You do know that you sent BRH a wake-up at 10:34 PM.

          he’s certainly not That Late a riser.

  65. beantownbill. September 13, 2016 at 4:52 pm #

    My, my, such pessimism today. If y’all believe our extinction is imminent, why not off yourselves now and avoid the hassle?

    Nah, we’re not going down the tubes, we’re changing. It’s been 71 years since we first used nukes. That’s a long time to point a loaded gun at your head and not pull the trigger. In the Permian extinction, 300+ million years ago, something like 85-90% of all the Earth’s species died out. Yet, here we are. We’re the survivors of several prior extinctions. So you think we can exterminate all life on our planet forever? Seriously? Belief in that takes a mighty amount of chutzpah and hubris and Ignorance of biochemistry. Just sayin’.

    • Cold N. Holefield September 13, 2016 at 5:22 pm #

      Yep, I do believe Man can do that and will in time. I’m not sure about the imminence part. I don’t think I’ll see it in my lifetime, but my grandchildren might experience it, so no, I don’t think I’ll off myself just yet, but thanks for the suggestion and thanks for the reassurance that the whole Nuclear Thing is way overblown.

    • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 5:53 pm #

      bentowner,

      i was just drinking some cans of Narragansett Beer down along the Hudson River on this glorious day and thinking about how wonderful life is. I mean it just couldn’t get any better!

      Off on a tangent about Boston, home of that famous 125 year old beer, I remembered an incident occurred in Boston some 30 years ago. I was in the oldest tavern in Boston after closing. Left after making my farewells and returned to some luxury hotel for a good night’s sleep. Upon awakening I noticed a message light on the telephone (see how there’s all these old, long-lasting things in this story?). It was from the Tavern, calling to let me know that I’d left my clothes behind. Returning the *telephone* call, I was informed that it was my Burberry and fedora left behind.

      I always think fondly of the Bostonian barmen and fellowmen for their good companionship and decency. That will last in my memory forever.

      see how i got ‘forever’ in there?

      • Cold N. Holefield September 13, 2016 at 6:13 pm #

        Watch out for the Smiley Face Killer. It prefers drunk guys in proximity to bodies of water. You fit the profile of its victims.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 7:14 pm #

          I know the bar, Chold. I’ll be watching for him. Which one? Him. Lovecraft called him, “He”. I’ll save Danny but keep the Fedora and give the Burberry (is that a fag scarf?) to the nearest bum.

          Second thought – I don’t want the Fedora. Too pretentious. I’ll give it back to him in exchange for a free lunch at an expensive restaurant where he can thank me for saving his life.

          • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 7:34 pm #

            “Burberry (is that a fag scarf?)”

            don’t you know nothin?

        • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 7:33 pm #

          he better watch out for me

      • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 9:30 pm #

        Did you monogram it?

        us.burberry.com/mens-scarves/cashmere/

        • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:04 pm #

          because you are so confused, i will explain in detail:

          The Burberry that I referred to in my anecdote about my Boston Trip and lovely memories of it, was a TRENCH COAT. These were made popular during WWll (i can only guess which side you’d root for). Burberry continued to manufacture these coats, as they symbolized the Allies victory over evil (sorry your team lost).

          Mine was purchased during a trip to London on business with my wife. After securing several favorable deals, I thought to shop. She enjoyed that very well. I purchased my coat from Burberry’s flagship shop and OF COURSE HAD MY NAME EMBROIDERED in the coat. This, along with a lifetime guarantee, was part of the service. In addition Burberry offered to replace the coat if ever lost, stolen or damaged.

          again,i guess the loss of your boy has hit you hard. but his madness fated him for failure. i guess you don’t see that.

          • elysianfield September 14, 2016 at 6:28 pm #

            d,
            Where is your sense of value? You can get the same coat at Walmart for $39.99…use a magic marker to print your name inside…guaranteed no one will steal it….

            I was standing on my usual corner, with a “will work for food” sign, when a guy in a new Chevy flipped me a “Buckwheat”…thought I’d go into Wally-World for a bit of shopping…saw the coat there.

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 7:13 pm #

            e

            I will share the Secret Motto for All Success in Life:

            Dress British, Think Yiddish

          • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2016 at 8:42 pm #

            Yes, the Jews have learned much from the British in regards to fine living. You follow the example of the Sassoons, the Jewish family that brought such horror to the Far East with their monopoly on Opium.

            Forgive the Burburry jibe. The ad man in me couldn’t resist the soft sound of the b’s and the r’s. A trench coat is a fine thing, if not quite my thing. You have your Leonard Cohen look to live up to.

            And the British upper class have gained much from the Jews, at least a few of them. They realized the Jews were going the same place as they were, only faster and better. Better to join them rather than be beaten by them. A few of the British resisted – most of those aren’t part of the upper class anymore. Same thing in America – thus we are left leaderless, abandoned by those whose sacred duty was to resist you people. Believe me Danny, if one of your Court Gentiles showed up here, a George Will type, I’d lay into him even worse.

          • dannyboy September 15, 2016 at 7:29 am #

            j,

            can’t you get ANYTHING right. I only correct you because of the pity i feel for you.

            You wrote: “Forgive the Burburry jibe. The ad man in me couldn’t resist the soft sound of the b’s and the r’s.”

            FIRST OFF it is “Burberry” NOT “Burburry”. Right here you give yourself away as knowing nothing.

            but i’ll help (out of pity and my extraordinary generosity towards the less fortunate).

            SECOND OF ALL, Ad Men LOVED The Burberry. Madison Avenue looked like the trenches at Normandy (sans war and adding in the beautiful girls). Watch an episode of Mad Men, if you can break away from your hate websites for half-an-hour.

          • elysianfield September 15, 2016 at 11:18 am #

            “I will share the Secret Motto for All Success in Life:

            Dress British, Think Yiddish

            d,
            A couple more…

            “What they can see…let it be….”

            “Keep it small, and keep it all….”

  66. beantownbill. September 13, 2016 at 4:59 pm #

    Read “the Stars my Destination” by Alfred Bester, IMO the greatest science fiction story ever written. In particular, read about pyrE.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 7:22 pm #

      That’s what I’m trying to tell you: the Aether will unite the inner and the outer man. Technology will no longer be simply “out there”. In other words, Clarke’s Law will be proven: there will be machines that some can use but other cannot, at least until they have gained the requisite inner knowledge and strength.

      Read Bulwer-Lytton’s “Vril” about a race of Aryan (sorry) Supermen who live insider the Earth. The protagonist unwittingly descends to their world and is afraid that he will precipitate or hasten an invasion of the surface by the Supermen.

      It’s like in Dune: the Emperor attacked House Atreides, one of the reasons being that the Atreides are developing weapons based on sound, which no one else understands.

      Danny and I are two of the most aware people on this planet – and we are enemies. I am Light and he is Darkness. He sees it the other way around.

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 7:35 pm #

        i don’t see you at all

        nothing

        • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 9:25 pm #

          That’s because of your darkness. And the darkness is greatest before it gets really dahk.

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:05 pm #

            is “dahk” your New Thing?

  67. FincaInTheMountains September 13, 2016 at 5:19 pm #

    So, when we’re going to have a party?

    youtube.com/watch?v=FQ6SjnPIomI

    • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 5:55 pm #

      you can feel self-satisfied now that i finally clicked on one of your ugly links. i had expected it to be a sincere celebration of Beantownbill’s fine essay. It wasn’t

      it was stupid

  68. Cold N. Holefield September 13, 2016 at 6:04 pm #

    It’s amazing. You learn something new everyday. Today I’ve learned that Life is not all that fragile and actually quite resilient, yet, for some reason, we don’t seem to be able to find any evidence of it anywhere else but Earth.

    I also learned that talk about Extinction is forbidden at websites that talk about Societal Collapse & Resource Limits because only Happy Thoughts are permitted.

    Jesus Christ, can we get it straight? Please!! Is this a Doomer Venue or not? If it is, and you’re a Glass Half Full Type, may I ask, what the hell is the appeal for you here except to encourage people to shoot themselves in the head or swallow an exhaust pipe if they try to look at things realistically?

    • Cold N. Holefield September 13, 2016 at 6:11 pm #

      I forgot to mention, I’ve also learned from dannyboy that Early Man did develop Thermonuclear Weapons. I had no idea. Like I said, you learn something new every day. Considering that, I bet Early Man created the AMC Original Mad Men, so the version I’m watching right now is a rehash. Sister Aloysius Beauvier from the great movie Doubt was right afterall. There is nothing new under the sun. If you want new, you have to go above it.

      • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 7:38 pm #

        The whole fuckin’ thing is a REPEAT!

        and just because you can’t see Life anywhere beyond your nose, It IS!

    • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 7:50 pm #

      And PROVES ALL THAT I HAVE SAID!

      The great movie Doubt was set in my South Bronx neighborhood (you can verify this fact because it coincides with my earlier statement about growing up in The Get Down neighborhood).

      The church where Sister Aloysius Beauvier prayed was across the street from the Bronx River Housing Projects where The Get Down takes place.

      I lived between them.

      There is nothing new under the sun. If you want new, you have to go above it.

  69. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 8:11 pm #

    “Jesus Christ, can we get it straight? Please!! Is this a Doomer Venue or not?” –Cold

    Cold, Jesus never existed. No historians of the first century mention Jesus, despite there being authors who write (at length) about Jewish concerns. There are no Roman records that mention Jesus.

    Not only all that, but, there are no Christian eye-witnesses of Jesus. All of the Gospels are anonymous and written by friends-of-friends, and none are written in the first person; also, Paul (who authored 13 of the 27 books of the NT) never met Jesus, except in a vision.

    The Gospels are also written in very competent Greek (the language of later converts), not Hebrew, not Aramaic. Early Christians didn’t know when Jesus was born (his birthdate wasn’t decided for hundreds of years, in 354CE) and they didn’t know where he was buried.

    People have doubted Jesus since the very first century, and, despite the popularity of Christianity, there is a modern resurgence of people who disbelieve in the very existence of a historical Jesus today.

    The biggest problem facing such unbelievers is accounting for early Christianity. But there are multiple theories as to how Christianity may have arisen without a historical saviour. For example, it is quite possible, given the similarities of Jesus to previous saviour religions and pagan stories about god-men, that the entire story of Jesus is a rewrite, with Jewish undertones, of Roman and pagan myths that were current at the beginning of the first century.

    So, yes, this is a doomer venue, and although you call upon him, there is no Jesus to “get it straight” and no Jesus to save you from the extinction black swan just around the corner. There is no hope. There is no salvation. There is no savior. It is all doom, all the time. Have a nice life.

    • dannyboy September 13, 2016 at 8:23 pm #

      “Cold, Jesus never existed. No historians of the first century mention Jesus, despite there being authors who write (at length) about Jewish concerns.”

      You know wpa_ccc, you got a Jew right here. Walk among you (hat tip Louis Black). We know of Jesus and his good work. Current day followers are not always up on this.

      youtube.com/watch?v=seuCWDSi8WQ

      • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 9:23 pm #

        He says the Jews were the worst people imaginable, a race of Jerry Springers. What can I say? I concur based on how they behave now. Louie said they were even worse back then. You have good in you, Danny. Otherwise you wouldn’t have linked to this. Try and let it out more often.

        • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:06 pm #

          i never click on these things.

          …that’s more your thing

      • elysianfield September 14, 2016 at 6:31 pm #

        “You know wpa_ccc, you got a Jew right here”

        d,
        I thought you were from the Bronx…you’re sayin’ it all wrong…

        “I Got your Jew…RIGHT HERE!”

        Must be an Italian thing….

        • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 7:16 pm #

          i grew up in an italian, irish, black, jewish, puerto rican, Catholic…neighborhood.

          no particular priority order intended.

          You figured out how to get on with it

    • Dumbedup September 13, 2016 at 11:38 pm #

      I think you are wrong wpa. Josephus and Tacitus both wrote about Jesus. There are references in the Dead Sea Scrolls (the last of which were translated in 1991) that mention the crucifixion of the Messiah for “the sins of man.”

      But to demand proof of Jesus is to demand that God show himself. He demands faith until he chooses to reveal himself. That time is coming sooner than most people realize. Maybe in our lifetime.

    • jhon September 14, 2016 at 8:44 am #

      “Wishing doesn’t make it so.” – Ayn Rand

  70. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 9:19 pm #

    “You know wpa_ccc, you got a Jew right here.” –dannyboy

    Judaism is real. Christianity is like Donald Trump, a giant money-sucking con game trafficking off fear, and the creation of guilt, to manipulate and control. We are so fucked.

    • messianicdruid September 13, 2016 at 11:06 pm #

      Again, you intentionally confuse Christianity with churchianity which is a product of the judaism which you extoll. Shame.

      • JimInFlorida September 14, 2016 at 7:06 am #

        Jewdeo-Xtianity usurped what was left of American Christianity over 50 years ago.

        Only that tiny remnant of Protestant churches that refuse 501(c)3 status still retain their Christian credibility. In the Catholic realm, only the SSPX and Traditionalist Latin Rite Catholic churches carry the Light of the Faith.

        In general, the U.S. hasn’t seen real Christianity at large in over a century.

      • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:08 pm #

        “churchianity which is a product of the judaism” – messianicdruid

        WTF???????????????????????/

        this here is why i never discuss religion or poitics

        • messianicdruid September 14, 2016 at 12:49 pm #

          What is the difference?

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:27 pm #

            spelling

            and i usually spell at least one wrong

            my bad

            (was that last remark religious?)

  71. Pucker September 13, 2016 at 9:26 pm #

    I wonder if it is theoretically possible to trigger one of Hillary’s seizures by having someone in the audience target her with a strobe light?

  72. Pucker September 13, 2016 at 9:43 pm #

    If Hillary is “dehydrated”, then shouldn’t she drink some Gatorade?

    If Lemonade is a drink made from lemons, then isn’t Gatorade a drink made from Gators?

    “Former Secret Service officer Gary Byrne, who protected the Clintons between 1991 and 2003, wrote a lengthy article in which he claimed that the explanation that Hillary was merely suffering from “overheating” was “highly suspect”.
    “Through the lens of my 29-year-career in The Service, I can see what a naked-eyed media pundit cannot: There is something seriously wrong with Mrs. Clinton,” asserts Byrne, noting that the now infamous video of her clearly shows a woman who cannot stand on her own.
    “She awkwardly leans on the ballard and stares straight ahead with her neck craned and extended up as her body is supported at the side and rear by her staffers.”
    “The agent who opened the door moves to take the place of the staffer and take Mrs. Clinton’s arm, but as they switch control, she nearly falls completely. The bald agent, who I believe is the shift leader, knows what is going on with Mrs. Clinton and – this oddity is very telling.”
    “As Mrs. Clinton jerks back and forth and her legs fold, the bald agent takes her right arm. The staffer also tries to also grab underneath Mrs. Clinton’s armpits to lift Mrs. Clinton.”
    “Close examination of Mrs. Clinton’s legs reveal her feet and legs have extended and are not holding her weight at all. The toes of her right foot drag and skid on the pavement. As they lift and push her forward, her legs don’t keep up and she falls forward again.”
    Byrne remarks on how all the agents immediately rushed to hide Clinton from public view once she collapsed and how her bizarre movements are more indicative of a seizure than anything to do with allergies or overheating.
    “When I worked at the White House, a man exhibited the same exact behavior as he froze inside a medical detector. On his full time nurse’s request, I held him under the armpits and stood by him until his seizure passed,” notes Byrne.
    Byrne believes Clinton’s “irate behavior” and “uncontrollable fits of anger” have taken a toll on her health.”

    • Janos Skorenzy September 13, 2016 at 10:37 pm #

      God may forgive us our sins, but our nervous system never does.

      Nothing to do with Pneumonia even if she does have it. Such rigidity is part of the Parkinson’s spectrum.

      • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:11 pm #

        “but our nervous system never does” – Janos

        j, you need to rethink before posting, and then post the opposite of your original thought.

        How can you possibly get EVERYTHING WRONG?

        of course the nervous system can be purified. that is the entire purpose of Yoga, and a supreme course of evolution.

  73. FincaInTheMountains September 13, 2016 at 10:15 pm #

    youtube.com/watch?v=FQ6SjnPIomI

    I already wrote about huge impression on me, and not only me, made the circumstances of Margaret Thatcher’s death, when suddenly it turned out that the Western propaganda is not omnipotent, and English-speaking people continue to hate Margaret Thatcher, and continue to hate her, despite the fact she won all the wars that she had ventured.

  74. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 10:16 pm #

    Say what? Trump recommends 6 weeks paid maternity leave? Step it up, Donald. Women are more important than that!

    Poland, Vietnam, and Venezuela offer 26-weeks of paid maternity leave to women at 100 percent of their income.

    Cuba offers 18 weeks of paid leave at 100 percent of a woman’s income.

    Norway offers 35 weeks of maternity leave with 100 percent of a woman’s wage. If a mom opts to stay home for 45 weeks, she receives 80 percent of her wage. New moms also quality for child benefit payments, an infusion of cash to offset the cost of parenting.

    Croatian mothers can stay home with baby for 30 weeks, while receiving 100 percent of their total income.

    While Estonian mothers enjoy 20 weeks with their new babies and moms in Chile and Lithuania spend 18 with their children, mothers in each country receive an average pay of 100 percent of their total income.

    Trump should be ashamed to propose such an anemic 6-weeks policy. Be strong! Be bold! Get up to speed with the rest of the world!

  75. Pucker September 13, 2016 at 10:32 pm #

    In trying to explain Hillary’s recent physical collapse, Bill Clinton said: “Hillary’s been work’n like a demon.”

    That’s the first honest thing that I’ve heard Bill Clinton say in a long time.

    • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:13 pm #

      “Hillary’s been work’n like a demon.” means that, as a Presidential Candidate, Hillary’s efforts are somewhat similar to The Donald’s. So she’s working like “a demon” (trump)

      got it?

  76. wpa_ccc September 13, 2016 at 10:34 pm #

    TRUMP LIES SAYING CLINTON HAS NO MATERNITY LEAVE PLAN

    Hillary Clinton’s campaign responded immediately Tuesday evening to Donald Trump’s assertion the Democratic nominee has no maternity leave plan.

    Trump claimed falsely at a campaign event in Aston, Pa., Tuesday evening that Clinton “has no child care plan.”

    Clinton’s plans are literally right here: hrc.io/2cCVg1S

    TRUMP: “I Like Kids. I Mean, I Won’t Do Anything To Take Care Of Them. I’ll Supply Funds And She’ll Take Care Of The Kids.” “‘Cause I like kids,’ said Trump. ‘I mean, I won’t do anything to take care of them. I’ll supply funds and she’ll take care of the kids. It’s not like I’m gonna be walking the kids down Central Park.’” [Buzzfeed, 2/24/16; Howard Stern Show]

  77. Pucker September 13, 2016 at 11:25 pm #

    Hillary may have Parkinson’s disease?

    parkinson.org/understanding-parkinsons/10-early-warning-signs

  78. beantownbill. September 13, 2016 at 11:35 pm #

    Hillary may or may not have Parkinson’s, but she sure does display the symptoms. I haven’t seen any videos of her with shaking hands, though, which I alway saw in my experience observing several Parkinson’s victims.

  79. Pucker September 14, 2016 at 12:08 am #

    It seems that coughing and pneumonia may be corollary symptoms of Parkinson’s Disease?

  80. Pucker September 14, 2016 at 12:21 am #

    Hillary is now a caricature.

    • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:15 pm #

      A beautiful image of our spectacular United States of America.

      but i digress. i prefer not to discuss politics or religion.

      • messianicdruid September 14, 2016 at 2:19 pm #

        What is the difference?

        • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:39 pm #

          “spelling

          and i usually spell at least one wrong

          my bad

          (was that last remark religious?)”

          – dannyboy

          I never get tired of that joke

          i’m kinda’ incorageable that way

  81. chola3 September 14, 2016 at 12:36 am #

    Janos:
    “.. One time on the phone I was about to spell out a word, but I couldn’t think of any word starting with n except nigger…. ”

    You become what you contemplate.

    With even gender changeable at will, guess Janos will soon change into a black supremist.

    I humbly request a preview!

    • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:17 pm #

      he’s already sounds like President Barack Obama with his “I can only hope”.

      inspiring

      • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2016 at 3:08 pm #

        “Next year in Jerusalem” (Jewish). “Our day will come” (Black)
        “If Earth calls, and Heaven answers, the Hour could be now” (Aurobindo)

        Hope and prayer and universal, Danny. The acronym ACTS describes the spectrum of Catholic prayer:

        Adoration
        Contrition
        Thanksgiving
        Supplication

        • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 3:28 pm #

          Beautiful

          You, me and Obama can attend services together

          but we’ll wait until he’s out of Office

  82. wpa_ccc September 14, 2016 at 1:10 am #

    “Hillary may or may not have Parkinson’s, but she sure does display the symptoms.” –beantown

    The three main symptoms of Parkinson’s disease affect physical movement:

    tremor – shaking, which usually begins in the hand or arm and is more likely to occur when the limb is relaxed and resting

    slowness of movement (bradykinesia) – where physical movements are much slower than normal, which can make everyday tasks difficult and can result in a distinctive slow, shuffling walk with very small steps

    muscle stiffness (rigidity) – stiffness and tension in the muscles, which can make it difficult to move around and make facial expressions, and can result in painful muscle cramps (dystonia)

    Hillary is not exhibiting any of the main symptoms of Parkinson’s.

  83. wpa_ccc September 14, 2016 at 1:26 am #

    When Trump learned that Hillary was overheated at the 9/11 ceremony he said: “If anybody is too hot, it’s my daughter Ivanka. If she wasn’t my daughter…”

    Trump wants to bang his daughter and has said so publicly on several occasions.

  84. Pucker September 14, 2016 at 2:05 am #

    The entire Democratic Party was mortified upon seeing a collapsed, limp Hillary Clinton thrown into the black van by her handlers like a big bulky sack of potatoes.

    • malthuss September 14, 2016 at 2:09 am #

      black van = ambulance.

      Black man = nurse? He was seen with Bill Clinton after his surgery.
      He is big enough to pick someone up.

      • Pucker September 14, 2016 at 2:30 am #

        What was “Really Weird” was that Hillary’s Democratic Party and Secret Service handlers acted like Hillary’s seizure and collapse was nothing unusual. Creepy….

        • wpa_ccc September 14, 2016 at 2:49 am #

          It was nothing unusual. Pneumonia combined with dehydration is not unusual. It is well-known, easily diagnosed, easily treated, without need of an ambulance or nurse or hospital.

          You calling something so simple and common “seizure” and “collapse” … that is creepy.

        • malthuss September 14, 2016 at 11:07 am #

          The term is ‘Poker Face.’

          Keep a stiff upper lip.

          Act like nothing is wrong.

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:18 pm #

            mr m,

            you know that these a trained professionals, trained to not panic, be composed…

            oh well

  85. Pucker September 14, 2016 at 2:58 am #

    “NEW YORK – Hillary Clinton has stage-three Parkinson’s disease and suffers from seizures, according to three sources who have had a personal relationship with the Democratic Party presidential nominee.

    The sources, who spoke to WND on condition of anonymity, explained that her seizures or dizzy spells can be triggered by being out in the sun, such as apparently occurred Sunday when she was videoed collapsing as she was escorted into her limousine in New York City.”

    • wpa_ccc September 14, 2016 at 3:50 am #

      Get back to us when you have a reliable and medically competent named source. Until then you are just gossiping, and maybe wishing.

      As they say on CFN: “Wishing doesn’t make it so.”

      • Pucker September 14, 2016 at 4:25 am #

        Unfortunately, our Main Stream Media is AWOL.

    • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:20 pm #

      and wtf would Women’s Wear Daily know about medical conditions?

      they even fucked up their coverage of NYC Fashion Week.

      i know about both things

  86. Pucker September 14, 2016 at 4:40 am #

    The MSM should be universally demanding an impartial thorough neurological exam of Hillary.

    • pequiste September 14, 2016 at 9:32 am #

      A Colon(powell/kaepernick)oscopy is actually indicated to find the real source of her power and problem.

      Where is the clamor I ask you?

  87. FincaInTheMountains September 14, 2016 at 5:36 am #

    Struggle is on: Who will replace Clinton as a Democratic Party candidate

    A peculiar feature of that struggle is the fact that the struggle is over who will NOT be a Democratic candidate for president. Everybody understands that Clinton surrogate will be charged with losing to Trump. Biden has already refused.

    Trump apparently someone gave assurances, or call it what you want, that Clinton would be deprived of the opportunity to forge the election results. But on the other side of the scales remained outstanding volitional qualities of the Lady. And this Sunday this legend was destroyed.

    • JimInFlorida September 14, 2016 at 6:50 am #

      That answer is easy. VP Joe Biden. I’ve been predicting that here on CFN for some time now.

      Regardless of what idiocy he’s done as VP and in the Senate, he has been practically invisible and forgotten. That makes him appear clean and untainted in comparison to what We Teh Sheep have been accustomed to as of late. The MSM won’t have time to dredge up enough dirt on him to affect his poll numbers.

      The Two Minutes Hate, featuring Hillary and The Donald, have We Teh Sheep in a state of near apoplexy. Still waiting for somebody to throw a Newspeak Dictionary at either of them. By allowing Hillary to drop out and save political face, the face of Biden will then fill our telescreens. With his perfect white hair, lantern jaw, and lack of campaign dirt sticking to him, Biden will speak the teleprompter words of encouragement that are uttered in the din of battle, not distinguishable individually but restore confidence by the fact of being spoken.

      I’ve said before, Hillary is faking her illness and she will be amply compensated for taking the fall. TPTB change out parties every eight years, as a general rule. Neither Obama or Hillary are FDR-quality politicians so, Hillary will not win. So they have to give her a face-saving way to bow out and faking a severe illness is a good one.

      • FincaInTheMountains September 14, 2016 at 10:58 am #

        Joe Biden was supervising the Ukrainian operations. It is unclear if he had taken part in a decision to use Multiple Rocket Propelled systems on residential districts of Donetsk and Lugansk.

        If the answer is yes, Joe Biden is a war criminal who will eventually get prosecuted by Russia – hanged like other war criminals were hung in Nuremberg.

        • JimInFlorida September 14, 2016 at 4:47 pm #

          What you say is true but, completely irrelevant.

          A few comments down, volodya inadvertently confirmed my hypothesis on how Joe Biden could win.

          Despite all of Hillary Rodan’s crimes, betrayals, and incompetence, she has teh Black Vote sewed up! Kollege edu-ma-cated Wimmen do the Bobble Head when she brays out her canned material.

          We Teh Sheep have no political memory. As visible as Hillary Rodan has been for 25 years, it all went down the Memory Hole just the same.

          How much more unstained will Uncle Joe Biden appear IN COMPARISON and by proles who barely know that he’s the VP anyway???

      • Florida Power September 14, 2016 at 10:59 am #

        On the contrary TPTB will select Hilary’s double: that svelte, perky figure who exited her daughter’s apartment building sans Secret Service escort, hugging the inevitable small child, traipsing down the street to the astonishment of the crowd, waving, smiling, behind those blue-hued sunglasses. Pneumonia be damned. I am woman — hear me roar.

        Not Biden. Wrong gender.

        (Could be it was all photoshopped but… What Difference Does it Make Now?)

        • FincaInTheMountains September 14, 2016 at 11:07 am #

          Yeah, most likely her double – and there are more than one.

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:23 pm #

            then call it by it’s correct name

            …it’s a Triple

            …or a Quadruple

            or 10 Commanders

  88. Cold N. Holefield September 14, 2016 at 6:33 am #

    I was flipping channels this morning and I heard Steve Doocy of Fox & Friends refer to The Press as The Mainstream Media as though Fox News is not somehow The Mainstream Media. What a Doocybag. Hey, you fucking idiotic, braindead DUMBASS, you are The Mainstream Media and you don’t get to use that term unless you’re referring to yourselves as well.

    Also, enough about the candidates Health Issues. Par for the course in this Election Cycle, there is hardly any coverage and analysis of the REAL ISSUES and the candidate’s views on those issues. Instead, The Lamestream Media can’t stop focusing on these these irrelevant Sideshow Distractions and here we see that these Sideshow Distractions are amplified in Comments Sections like this at a venue that allegedly is set up to discuss some of the most serious issues confronting Man & the Planet.

    Clusterfuck Nation, indeed. Even a venue called Clusterfuck Nation can’t get past the Clusterfuck and instead aspires to make it even more so by virtue of a comments section that effectively drags everyone further into the Clusterfuck.

  89. Cold N. Holefield September 14, 2016 at 7:06 am #

    beantownbill said: Marlin, sorry to say, you’re fired. Pick up your $125 million check and leave now!

    Why do you hate her so much? She’s successful. Right, The Former Fed BRH? Any of you, if you were in her shoes, would have done the same thing. Right? What do you have against success? Things change, bean, as you aptly & smugly pointed out to me, and this is one of the changes. This is the way business is done now. Accept it & embrace it or off yourself if you can’t. This new way of doing things and of seeing the World from a different perspective and different Sate of Consciousness has made it clear that you & your generation have served your time and now it’s time for you to disappear entirely — meaning disappear like yesterday. You are no longer useful and you are no longer valued. You’re a waste of resources so make it easy on yourself and everyone else and do what needs to be done. It’s better this way. Embrace the Change. Prepare the Knife. Prepare Your Wrists. Make it Right. The Final Solution Finally Applied. Do you have the nerve to make The Final Cut? I doubt it, but you do have the nerve to tell others to, don’t you? How BRAVE of you.

    The Final Cut

    I’m ready to tangle with you any time you’re ready. Bring it on. You know where I am. I’m waiting. Bring dannyboy with you if you think you need some help — you’ll need it, I promise you.

    • beantownbill. September 14, 2016 at 11:55 am #

      Cold, chill, will ya? I don’t hate the lady, never met her. Pay me 125 mil, and I’ll buy an island and disappear forever. In case you never noticed, I’m often a sarcastic bastard.

      Regarding the offing yourself post – more sarcasm. I don’t understand how people claim they know future events, when by definition they don’t exist, but I suppose we’re all guilty of this to some extent. CFN is not a doomer blog. As intended by JHK, it’s just a commentary on our culture, with emphasis on how peak resources affect it. I don’t think I ever read JHK stating mankind is doomed.

      Speaking of sharp objects, take a scissors and cut that hair across your ass, it makes you very irritable.

      • Cold N. Holefield September 14, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

        I’m always irritable, hair or not. Plus, broken ribs don’t help. It’s no fun sleeping (or not sleeping really) with broken ribs. Add to that the incessant, unrelenting heat due to what seems to be a quasi-permanent High Pressure System that’s taken hold over The Southeast this past decade and this year is the worst yet because of it.

        I grew up in the Northeast and looked forward every year to the cool, cleansing Fall Air in September just in time for Football Season and the first flurries in early October. This never-ending heat reminds me the following Twilight Zone Episode:

        The Midnight Sun

        • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:34 pm #

          “broken ribs don’t help”

          jack does

          your best friend,
          d

    • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 12:25 pm #

      beantownbill’s in Boston

      dannyboy’s in nyc

      i don’t travel for work.

  90. ozone September 14, 2016 at 10:35 am #

    “…It’s Duh Russians…”
    Talk about mendacity of the most cynical of stripes; whew.
    Eric Draitser gets it and really nails it to the wall. Here’s a tiny snippet of a great article:

    “Hillary for America? Hillary Fleeces America

    If the Russians really wanted to destroy Hillary Clinton’s chances at the presidency, rather than sophisticated spying and subversion, they could simply refer American news consumers to Hillary’s campaign website and note that nearly every single policy proposal listed is a completely and utterly vacuous lie, distortion, or inversion of reality. Indeed, Clinton has managed to insult the intelligence of Americans while simultaneously papering over a sordid record as one of the country’s most insidious operators on behalf of finance capital against the interests of workers and the poor.”

    He gives a lot of specifics on Clintonian “policies”, couched in entirely proper vitriol. (If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention.)
    Shitbirds need not waste their precious time reading this, they’ve got Omni-state poo to fling for their supper after all.

    counterpunch.org/2016/09/13/86643/

    • volodya September 14, 2016 at 11:57 am #

      Brilliant article, some things I try to convey but can’t come knee high, not having the necessary concentration of vinegar in my synapses, nor the command of the English language. Not like this guy.

      Hillary speaks to college educated White women. And, astonishingly, White women listen and believe her. Just look at the heads nodding in the crowd. Goes to show that education isn’t worth the money you pay and a degree isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, not improving people’s observational and analytical skills one iota.

      Do these women actually think that Hillary stands with them, that Hillary is a “progressive”? This is as laughable a notion as I’ve heard. Anyone with eyes can see it, Hillary is the mouthpiece of and servant for Wall Street. Maybe these women can see the truth of the matter, that Bill and Hil and Dubya and Obama threw the working class under the bus and don’t give the slightest fuck about Blacks and Hispanics. Maybe these White women understand that they, as servants to the Oligarch class, stood to benefit, which of course for the time being they have.

      But not for long, as some people have been pointing out. This highly self-regarding clerisy, men and women alike, are seeing their jobs go to India. After all, if an Oligarch can send a working class job that pays 30K a year to India, why not send a white collar job that pays 100K a year? What I’m waiting for is to see how these edumacated react. Will they sell one another out in a feeding frenzy of self-preservation?

      Bill and Hil have been the ruin and degradation of Blacks. But the joke’s especially on Black women, people harmed more than any other group. Yet Blacks stand fore-square behind her. Incomprehensible that especially they who suffered so much can’t see what’s plainly in front of them, instead listening to Hillary’s sympathetic coo-ing sounds. You don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

      Lucky that Hillary has as incompetent a candidate as The Donald. Anybody worth a damn, anyone with a smidgen of self-control so as not to engage in farcical pissing contests with grieving parents of dead soldiers, could beat Hillary in a walk. As some pundit sez, all Donald has to do is have ONE sane month. Can he do it?

      • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 1:54 pm #

        no

      • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2016 at 3:15 pm #

        Yes, as Lao Tzu close the schools and the people will benefit a hundred fold, Smart women can be good at their professions, be it housewife saving money with coupons, or a doctor able to look up an illness in the medical cookbook, but voting? Discernment? Please. A few women can do research, be it statistics or even hard science. But wisdom? Discernment? Voting? Please.

        Women shouldn’t be voting. Neither should most men. I’d let women run for office though – we’d be able to discern the rare woman who has “it”.

        • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 3:30 pm #

          women still crazy about you?

          now your putting the men off to?????????????????

      • ozone September 14, 2016 at 5:52 pm #

        “…After all, if an Oligarch can send a working class job that pays 30K a year to India, why not send a white collar job that pays 100K a year? What I’m waiting for is to see how these edumacated react. Will they sell one another out in a feeding frenzy of self-preservation?”

        V.,
        Oh, most certainly! They have no idea how to create a new direction of thinking/acting/living by which to feed themselves (or even an old one). This will be the result of rigidity, whether it be educational or maybe just a by-product of not using their own imaginations, *ever*. (? Strictly an off the cuff supposition there, but it might have some small effect on creativity and flexibility. Let’s not forget that oft-spoken mantra of “work hard and play by the rules; you’ll soon be shitting on everyone around you”, stuff.)

      • elysianfield September 14, 2016 at 6:58 pm #

        “Bill and Hil have been the ruin and degradation of Blacks. But the joke’s especially on Black women, people harmed more than any other group. Yet Blacks stand fore-square behind her. Incomprehensible that especially they who suffered so much can’t see what’s plainly in front of them, instead listening to Hillary’s sympathetic coo-ing sounds. You don’t know whether to laugh or cry”

        V,
        Of course she appeals to blacks…does Hillary not go anywhere without a bottle of hot sauce in her purse? Laugh or Cry? How about “Cringe”?

    • beantownbill. September 14, 2016 at 12:01 pm #

      The problem with suggesting the public read Hilary’s website is that they’ll believe everything on it. Of course, that’s making the assumption that the public can read.

    • wpa_ccc September 14, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

      Omni-state is going to win the election. Both candidates are rich establishment candidates selected to be the nominee by Omni-state establishment parties. It’s just a question of which Omni-state actor will be in control of the Omni-state. It won’t matter much to you anyway, ozone. I’m surprised you have time to be posting here anyway because you have wood to chop, unless you are using the wood splitter/chain saw method.

      • wpa_ccc September 14, 2016 at 1:10 pm #

        Hillary is more independent. Trump’s global deals would make it impossible for him to conduct foreign policy in many countries without padding or depleting his wallet.

        If Donald Trump is elected president, will he and his family permanently sever all connections to the Trump Organization, a sprawling business empire that has spread a secretive financial web across the world? Or will Trump instead choose to be the most conflicted president in American history, one whose business interests will constantly jeopardize the security of the United States?

      • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:02 pm #

        i’ve been doing hand-splitting for far too many years. go every gadget that promises to make the going easier.

        it ain’t

        so now, with probably 50 rounds sitting unsplit (with the exception of those split over the weekend by my strapping son), i got 2 guys who offered the use of their splitters.

        one’s got to talk with his partner-in-splitters. i figured i could have been finished before he arranges that sit-down.

        the other is “coming by”. he’s the same guy who promised me his outdoor shower hardware after his town told him to remove it. as the summer has gone by with no outdoor shower, I figure it to be a long winter awaiting him driving up in a white hat with a spliiter hitch.

        all this isin explanation of your question ” I’m surprised you have time to be posting here anyway because you have wood to chop, unless you are using the wood splitter/chain saw method.”

        unless you were asking that of someone else, in which case you can skip this comment.

        • Cold N. Holefield September 14, 2016 at 2:12 pm #

          Notice the placement of the # sign under dannyboy’s name per this latest comment compared to the placement as it relates to anyone else’s name for any comment. Special Access Rights?

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:32 pm #

            outed

            new identity requested

            priority

            or sooner

        • ozone September 14, 2016 at 5:39 pm #

          DB,
          Someday, you might want to make some real friends. I have quite a different story about some wood-splitting help, but, of course, I haven’t any time for that now.
          Good Luck!

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 6:14 pm #

            my friends are ALL like that. I like their unpredictability

      • messianicdruid September 14, 2016 at 2:33 pm #

        wpa-ccc – is that a pivot you are attempting or a gavotte?

        • wpa_ccc September 14, 2016 at 3:45 pm #

          MD, the “church” is nothing more and nothing less than the Body of Christ, who is a mythical, fictional, being.

          Your distinction between churchianity and christianity is meaningless given that both are based on a fiction.

          Pivot.

          • messianicdruid September 14, 2016 at 6:44 pm #

            Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was referring to your comment about OMNI-state winning the election rather than your progressive darlings.

          • messianicdruid September 14, 2016 at 8:28 pm #

            Are you implying Judaism is a fiction? I assert that churchianity [ judeo-churchianity ] draws most of it’s doctrine [ basis ] from judaism.

          • dannyboy September 15, 2016 at 7:36 am #

            m

            again

            Judiasm CANNOT be a fiction.

            You got a Jew right here.

            (a good lookin’ mf!)

      • ozone September 14, 2016 at 5:35 pm #

        Just to punk your outed ass, I’ll make a small slice of time, shitbird. Now get back to work and earn your taxpayer-provided scrip, you worthless slave… you’re wasting valuable gov’t. time and commandeered resources!

        • ozone September 14, 2016 at 5:41 pm #

          (…for wpa-whatthefuckeveretc.)

          • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 6:15 pm #

            not me

            whew

  91. Cold N. Holefield September 14, 2016 at 1:20 pm #

    Remember I said I don’t vote? I lied. I will vote under certain circumstances. For example, if an Elegant, Beautiful, Intelligent, Well-Spoken Woman ran — I’d vote for her. Even if she campaigned on the pledge to extinct the Human Race. Why? Because it sure as hell beats the other options. If we’re Dead Meat anyway, I want the aforementioned at the helm giving Press Conferences every hour on the hour telling me everything’s gonna be alright, yet knowing it’s not going to be. Someone like Ivanka Trump. I watched & listened to her speak in Pennsylvania last night and I was flabbergasted. Floored. How did The Donald’s sperm ever conceive such a wonderfully pleasant person? If I wasn’t married, I’d marry her, and yes, of course, I’d shave for the occasion and I’d promise not to be so grouchy all the time.

    Ivanka For President!!!

    Make America Beg For It Again

    • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:05 pm #

      ” For example, if an Elegant, Beautiful, Intelligent, Well-Spoken Woman ran — I’d vote for her. Even if she campaigned on the pledge to extinct the Human Race. Why? Because it sure as hell beats the other options.”

      you have your Priorities Straight.

      many don’t

      i admire that

  92. Cold N. Holefield September 14, 2016 at 1:29 pm #

    Who has worse Gas, The Donald or Hillary? Are both too Gaseous to be POTUS just as both are unfit to be POTUS? Can you imagine having to be with either of these two, cooped up in close quarters where they had no compunction about letting one or two or three or more loose? I’d rather be Homeless than subject myself to such a Nightmare.

    Extra Cheese

    • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:07 pm #

      maybe keep this Comment private. don’t want to get in the way of “Someone like Ivanka Trump. I watched & listened to her speak in Pennsylvania last night and I was flabbergasted. Floored. How did The Donald’s sperm ever conceive such a wonderfully pleasant person? If I wasn’t married, I’d marry her”

      you know,

      you never know

  93. fodase September 14, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

    can anyone run a voice pattern analyzer on hillary’s double? even people who perfectly imitate other voices show different voice waves when analyzed, compared to the original.

    should be easy enough to do, hopefully even with the recordings we already have.

    fodase

    • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:30 pm #

      hillary can throw her voice

      you think she got to where she is without that?

  94. Cold N. Holefield September 14, 2016 at 2:21 pm #

    dannyboy said : i’ve been doing hand-splitting for far too many years.

    In Japan, the hand can be used like a knife. Only in Japan. Never anywhere else. It has something to do with the soil’s mineral content of that impressive Island Nation.

    Ginsu

    • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

      i use a knife

      smarter than the Japanese in that way

    • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2016 at 4:11 pm #

      Mr Kunslter is not a doomer in the sense of wanting or even expecting the end of the human race. Take that – a kara-te chop to the neck!

  95. FincaInTheMountains September 14, 2016 at 3:12 pm #

    Good evening,” said WABC weekend anchor Joe Torres. “We begin with Hillary Clinton’s death.”

    Torres didn’t correct himself, but the broadcast continued on to report Clinton’s health troubles at Sunday’s 9/11 memorial ceremony in New York.

    mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article101553692.html

    The announcement of Hillary Clinton’s death was likely a slip, but a Freudian slip

  96. FincaInTheMountains September 14, 2016 at 3:17 pm #

    Dumping of Hillary picks up some serious steam

    Bayer clinches Monsanto with improved $66 billion bid

    This means that the party of war is no longer confident that Hillary Clinton will be president of the USA, as Monsanto was one of the main initiators of the US intervention in Ukraine and sponsor of such PMCs like Blackwater, of course concerning the Ukrainian black earth.

    youtube.com/watch?v=tyucTvMdTfg

    • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 3:34 pm #

      I JUST BOUGHT SOME BAYER aspirin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      what do you make of THAT!

  97. FincaInTheMountains September 14, 2016 at 3:22 pm #

    My condolences to Mr. Trump – I know he’d hate to run unopposed.

    • dannyboy September 14, 2016 at 3:35 pm #