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     Blogger Pater Tenebrarum of Acting Man put it nicely today: Since Mario Draghi “bought” European bankers and politicos a summer vacation by promising to pull out all the stops to save the Euro, this blog will take a break (not a vacation) for a week from the nauseating ongoing melodrama of international finance and instead offer reviews of the other bloggers and podcasters out there that I follow.
1. Outstanding for consistent excellence, acuity, clarity, and the milk of human kindness is the McAlvany Weekly Commentary. David McAlvany manages an investment company out of Durango, Colorado, with an emphasis on precious metals. His interview subjects are high-caliber figures often outside the posse of usual suspects making the rounds elsewhere on the web. He speaks beautifully in complete sentences, shows enough emotion to come off as sympathetically human, and has an equally intelligent sidekick in Kevin Orrick. Together they present the most coherent view of money and politics on the web. A Christian enthusiast, he admirably keeps religion mostly out of the script.
2. For years, The Automatic Earth has presented the most consistently intelligent, wide-ranging, and intellectually rigorous view of the overall ongoing financial fiasco in the written blog format. Until the past year, most of the commentary was written by the droll Raul Ilargi Meijer. Now he is joined by the brilliant energy and finance analyst Nicole Foss and young Ashvin Pandurangi. Their combined point of view is staunchly deflationist. They do immense amounts of homework, cut through all the bullshit to the dense core of our troubled reality, and publish several times a week. The title of the blog comes from a Paul Simon lyric out of Graceland.
3. Zero Hedge. The mysterious person(s) behind this massive continuous stream of reports and analysis from the loony bin of Wall Street and beyond has a manic edge but accurately reflects the madness of the current situation. Zero Hedge seems to post virtually around the clock, every day. They are relentless and hugely comical, with exactly the right sharply malicious overtones required in these evil times. The characters who infest their comment section are some of the worst vermin in trolldom.
4. Mish’s Global Analysis. I don’t know how Mike Shedlock (“Mish”) does it. He puts out two or three commentaries a day as well as holding down a regular job. His great service to us is providing the best breaking analysis of breaking news, that is, making sense of events that are often mystifying — since mystification is one of the prime tactics of financial playerdom in these dark, non-transparent times — and getting it done in a very timely way. The upshot is that few of the dodges and ruses emanating from the money world get by this guard-dog, to the huge benefit of us civilians.
5. Charles Hugh Smith’s blog, Of Two Minds, manages to publish keenly insightful analysis practically every day in the form of essays that tend to follow big picture themes: governance, energy, taxation, culture, electoral politics. Smith’s penetrating, dogged analysis connects vast constellations of dots between the forces that are shattering late industrial economies. He apparently does it all by himself and has also produced several excellent books that form a rich matrix of understanding for anyone trying to make sense of the epochal changes coming down on us.
6. Naked Capitalism is Yves Smith’s daily roundup of first rate essays on disasters of banking, including her own forceful callings-out of the ubiquitous misconduct that surrounds her on Wall Street where she works. Her writing is fluent and clear on subjects that would otherwise appear hopelessly abstruse, which is especially valuable where complexity is a cover for misbehavior.
7. In an earlier incarnation of this life, Chris Martenson was a PhD biochemist toiling for da man in the corporate swamps of Connecticut. He literally dropped out and reinvented himself as a blogger / podcaster when the peak oil and debt trap equation startled him into recognizing that the reigning system of political-economy’s days were numbered. Since then, he has produced perhaps the best book on the failures of contemporary finance, The Crash Course, and has lately ginned up an excellent weekly interview podcast that should be indispensible.
8. The Archdruid Report. To the casual observer John Michael Greer would seem an odd figure, being a long-bearded, shambling, threadbare enthusiast of things druidical (whatever they are), but he’s also about the most humane, articulate, and lucid observer of the crumbling economic and political scene from the realm of totally outside the box. He puts out a beautifully crafted essay every Thursday from the backwater of Cumberland, Maryland, and his view of where the human race is headed is sobering, reassuring, and full of authentic empathy for our multiple predicaments.
9. Jim Willie’s Hat Trick Letter at The Golden Jackass Report is a deep, complex, often savage dissection of financial reality that always manages to illuminate new angles on the giant hairball of lies and swindles that the money world has become in our time. He writes in a singular telegraphic style that is delightful to read in a way similar to the pleasures of watching certain horror movies. He assumes that his readers already know a lot and can follow the often recondite pathways of financial discourse that he is such an excellent guide to
10.  The Keiser Report with Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert. Stacy is the straight-person to Max’s antic persona. But no one has flogged the evil-doers of banking as hard and unrelentingly as Max, who worked on the inside of the investment racket until driven by outrage to become one of its fiercest attackers. His perch in Paris gives him a front-row seat on the shenanigans now unraveling civilization in the Eurozone, but he shines his lamp under the rock of Wall Street regularly and loves to put the wicked Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan in the spotlight.
11. King World News. Eric King is the reigning gold bug of podcastdom. While he unabashedly “talks his book,” one gathers he does it because he sincerely believes in the arguments for precious metals (as I do) and he brings out around five punchy interviews a week with a revolving cast of fellow gold bugs and other generally intelligent high level players in that world – though I could do without the snide Gerald Celente.
12. Financial Sense New Hour. Jim Puplava recently expanded his formerly weekends-only massive three hour podcast to include premium-priced weekday interviews with a lineup of insiders. Puplava covers the waterfront energetically, but he has some weaknesses: 1.) his malaprop rate is staggering; 2.) he doesn’t challenge guests spouting obvious nonsense; 3.) other than being a staunch inflationist, his views on the markets shift with whatever wind is issuing from a guest’s mouth; and 4.) he’s a closet John Bircher who does an annual summer show (any week now) featuring an appalling roster of right-wing crazies. In a normal culture, that alone would tend to discredit all his other worthy endeavors. His sidekic
k John Loeffler sounds more consistently intelligent. Both of them are jesus freaks, of course.
13. Added Monday p.m.  I almost forgot the memorable, mordant, and brilliant Dmitry Orlov (sheer brain fart on my part). Orlov is a fantastic writer and a great mind. Visit ClubOrlov!
     I left a few characters off the main list, but shoutouts to CK Michaelson’s Some Assembly Required blog, Bruce Krasting’s blog, Bill Bonner’s The Daily Reckoning, Whiskey and Gunpowder, the brave Martin Armstrong, Jesse’s Café Americain, Barry Ritholtz’s The Big Picture, Carl Denninger, Peter Schiff, the great, sobering Doug Noland of the Prudent Bear‘s Credit Bubble Bulletin, Pater Tenebrarum of Acting Man, Doug Henwood, the savvy and beautiful Lauren Lyster, Bill Moyers… and probably several others who I am (unfortunately) too rushed to mention.

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699 Responses to “Salutes to the Homeys”

  1. treuburger July 30, 2012 at 10:07 am #

    Frist!

  2. Leibowitz Society July 30, 2012 at 10:08 am #

    We have to be thankful for the people who are giving us the “real story” and trying to do something about the mess, than just towing a popular line. They might be heretics, but they are opening eyes as time goes on.
    Visit the Leibowitz Society at http://www.leibowitzsociety.blogspot.com/2012/07/maps.html for more information and discussion related to our coming collapse and saving our knowledge for the future.

  3. Puzzler July 30, 2012 at 10:09 am #

    At least spell it right.

  4. Bukko Canukko July 30, 2012 at 10:18 am #

    I don’t know if this is “confirmation bias” or not, but I read all of those blogs, except for Macalvany. Not every one, every day, and many have their faults. Mish and ZeroHedge are filled with anti-union, “hate the common person” glibertarian rhetoric, although they are waaaaaay ahead of the curve on reporting economic truths that you’ll see in the corporate media months later. KingWorld is OK if you’re a one-eyed gold bug. Ditto for Puplava.
    The Automatic Earth is the best one to read if you want to survive the coming catastrophe that Kunstler describes in “The Long Emergency.” They not only lay out the deflationary collapse and environmental nightmare that’s looming, but they give you advice on how to “build a lifeboat” that will ease your way through hard times. Hint — friends will be more valuable than guns in the Grim World of the Afterscape.
    And if you like Kunstler but aren’t watching Keiser, go do it! He’s as outraged as JHK, he’s got an intelligent sidekick like Kunstler has Duncan Crary, and their vidcasts are more lively than Kunstler’s podcasts.
    The truth is out there. You just have to separate it from the piles of bullshit. The best way to do that is turn off the TV hologram (RIP Joe Bageant, another fantastic blogger) and turn on the Internet more.

  5. judetennessee July 30, 2012 at 10:18 am #

    Thanks for the links and the analysis of the various sites.

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  6. upnorth July 30, 2012 at 10:19 am #

    The term The Automatic Earth is from Paul Simon’s song Boy in the Bubble, not from Graceland,

  7. Neon Vincent July 30, 2012 at 10:19 am #

    Wow, thank you for the recommendations. I read a few of them regularly, such as The Automatic Earth and The Archdruid Report, and have occasionally read Mish and Zero Hedge, but many of the rest are new to me. Thanks!
    In return, I recommend Early Warning and The Hipcrime Vocab, both on Blogspot. Both cover a lot of the same ground as the above, but are worth reading on their own.
    I was sure you would have something to say about the Olympics. If I had spent last evening composing an entry geared especially for readers of CN, I’d have written another Karnak predicts post saying so. Instead, I spent it correcting papers while watching swimming, volleyball, and gymnastics. Good thing I did; my blog post would have been completely wrong.
    Over at Crazy Eddie’s Motie News, I haven’t blogged about the Olympics yet either, although I have a post or two about the science of the games planned. Instead, I have a retrospective of one of my posts from last year that I did compose with the readers of this blog in mind, about how a group of artists and designers completely avoided the real problems of surburbia. Their solutions were quite impractical, but they did become an exhibit at the Museum of Modern Art that is showing for another three weeks. By their standards, that would count as a success. I also posted some videos about sustainable agriculture I showed to my students, including one about the MetroFoodPlus project Michigan State University is planning in Detroit. I also continued my series about science crime scenes, space news, endorsements for the upcoming Michigan primary, and climate news. Finally, I razzed the best man from my first wedding, who trolled my blog asking for Jell-O recipes. I found a good one for him.
    Happy Motoring–for now–from Detroit!
    http://crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/

  8. Neon Vincent July 30, 2012 at 10:22 am #

    There’s a joke in there. Over at Daily Kos, people were banned for making “First!” comments. Then some smart aleck posted “Frist!” for a subject line followed by a post about Senate Majority Leader Frist. He got a big laugh out of that.

  9. Phutatorius July 30, 2012 at 10:23 am #

    “The characters who infest their comment section are some of the worst vermin in trolldom.” I would hope that it’s better here.
    -Phut

  10. Bukko Canukko July 30, 2012 at 10:25 am #

    P.S. If you can, kick some money to some of the smaller bloggers on this list, such as Charles Hugh Smith, the Archdruid and the folks at Automatic Earth. Nicole “Stoneleigh” Foss of TAE is a wonderful person, who my wife and I have had the pleasure of hosting in our house on one of her speaking tours through Canada. We also ran into Ilargi and Stoneleigh at a Peak Oil conference in Florence, Italy and bought them lunch. They really do travel the world on a shoestring, spreading a good message, but they need all the help they can get, so buy Ilargi a beer. You know the Dutch and their beer…

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  11. silverdoctor July 30, 2012 at 10:25 am #

    Kudos to Jim, who has been telling us for years what is coming to a head in just over a month. From today’s Yahoo News, “Euro zone crisis heads for September crunch” (original from Reuters):
    DEFLATING LIFE RAFT
    “In nearly 20 years of dealing with EU issues, I’ve never known a state of affairs like we are in now,” one euro zone diplomat said this week. “It really is a very, very difficult fix and it’s far from certain that we’ll be able to find the right way out of it.”
    . . .
    The euro zone does not seem to have enough cash in the current setup to deal with a scenario of Spain and Italy needing a rescue, and a sense of doom is growing among some policymakers. Fighting the crisis, said the euro zone diplomat, is like trying to keep a life raft above water.
    “For two years we’ve been pumping up the life raft, taking decisions that fill it with just enough air to keep it afloat even though it has a leak,” the diplomat said. “But now the leak has got so big that we can’t pump air into the raft quickly enough to keep it afloat.”
    Jim, you have been telling us exactly this — the heart of the matter — for years, even before the crash of 2007.
    My hat’s off to you!
    silverdoctor

  12. matthewstruth July 30, 2012 at 10:28 am #

    Jim,
    Thanks for these. I am not someone on the computer all that much, too many squash bugs and cucumber beetles in my world that need attention. So I am grateful for your fav’s, and as always your insights.
    Looking forward to listening in tomorrow night!

  13. Dr. Tim July 30, 2012 at 10:30 am #

    “No one can predict the future”, a worn and incorrect bromide. Of course we can predict the future. Not many of the predictions prove correct. But interestingly, many of us are proven correct as documented by the scribes of history. Maryland’s governor has decided to apply the ‘magic’ of Las Vegas to predict a future where gambling will address all of our local financial issues. Indeed, this depends upon a lot of math-deficit folks who believe they can predict the future with cards, dice, and levers. And Draghi is no better at the roulette table than mere mortals.
    At least professor Kunstler has provided us with a plethora of voices to perhaps assess the ‘expert’ futurists. Be blessed if you don’t live with stink bugs. Cheers.

  14. Bukko Canukko July 30, 2012 at 10:30 am #

    “The characters who infest their comment section are some of the worst vermin in trolldom.”
    A good rule of thumb for ZeroHedge comments is NEVER READ A COMMENT THAT’S LESS THAN THREE LINES LONG. The hate-filled nihilists leave short word-farts. People who string together more than few sentences will not always be sensible, but there’s a better chance of it. You will not agree with everything you read there, but it will expose you to other ways of thinking, often repulsive to whatever political bias you hold. It will get you out of your mental comfort zone and challenge the group-think that we all tend to fall into, no matter what our political leanings.

  15. Loveandlight July 30, 2012 at 10:33 am #

    Pulling out all the stops to save the Euro, eh? For a few days last week, it seemed like the beleagured currency was about to claw its way back up to 1.25 relative to the US$, but now it looks like its mostly going to hover around the 1.22 range. I’m told that 1.20 represents some sort of “tipping point”, in that if it sinks past that level and keeps going, then that’s pretty much the fat lady singing.

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  16. TrE July 30, 2012 at 10:35 am #

    I also check Dmitry Orlov’s blog, though not as often as some of these.
    He continues to describe the similarities of the collapse of the Soviet Union (SU) and United States (US). His book, Reinventing Collapse, is a must-read for those who are new to this subject. I also like that he lives on a boat and has a plan to support himself through trade should the worst come to pass.

  17. Phutatorius July 30, 2012 at 10:47 am #

    I don’t understand the frequent overlap between the Christian enthusiasts and the gold bugs. I recall that JC himself was no fan of money changers and that somewhere in that book there was talk of laying up treasure in heaven rather than on earth. As far as the Old Testament goes, I remember, when I was a kid attending Sunday School every week, that I questioned my parents about the O.T. prohibition on usury. Their explanation was that it was only prohibiting EXCESSIVE interest. That satisfied me enough that I went ahead and opened a passbook savings account. But as an adult I’m not so sure. Prohibiting only excessive interest makes the O.T. safe for capitalists and rentiers (doesn’t it?) while condemning just the payday loan industry. How convenient!
    -Phut

  18. Bukko Canukko July 30, 2012 at 10:53 am #

    Orlov had an excellent essay a few weeks ago about how Peak Oil deniers were similar to psychiatric patients living in a world of schizophrenic delusion. When the delusion is challenged, or can no longer be maintained because reality intervenes in an overpowering way, delusional patients lose the ego framework they have constructed and often freak out violently. What’s going to happen when heavily-armed Amerikkka discovers it can no longer live with the fantasy of Happy Motoring? A lot of heads are going to explode, literally, from bullets going through them. If you know anyone who’s likely to blow up this way, please urge them to put their gun in their mouth, and not to point it at anyone else who might not yet be choosing to wig out and die.

  19. kulturcritic* July 30, 2012 at 11:03 am #

    LET IT RIP JAMES KULTURCRITIC
    http://kulturcritic.wordpress.com/posts/paterno-ism/

  20. tpverde July 30, 2012 at 11:04 am #

    Kudos to Mr. Kunstler for sharing a bit of the credit to some very worthy folks.
    Good balance between the severely technical sites and the more, ‘humanistic overview’ commentaries.
    Thanks to the internet I can follow it all from a forested enclave here in Costa Rica. Can’t do much about the big collapsing picture, but we work tirelessly on our own land as well as trying to rebuild the local agricultural economy with loans, advice, tree planting and, yes, lots of fun and making friends in the process.
    puebloverde.org

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  21. OLISHIZ July 30, 2012 at 11:05 am #

    Get to know it!
    http://www.doomsteaddiner.org/blog/

  22. RyeBeachBum July 30, 2012 at 11:06 am #

    Jim Dmitry Orlov should be in the top ten, I think that KMO and Mike Ruppert of Collapsenet also deserve a “shoutout”

  23. GAZ July 30, 2012 at 11:06 am #

    I really miss the “Life After The Oil Crash” site. Too bad Matt hung it up to give back rubs to hippie chicks and be a fortune teller. Zero Hedge took it’s place for me. The comments there used to be very informative, but as Jim said, it has become a troll-fest of one-liners and flame throwing. For full blown conspiracy theory humor Alex Jones is always good for laughs in small doses.

  24. anotherplayaguy July 30, 2012 at 11:08 am #

    http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/
    Funny as well as insightful.
    http://guymcpherson.com/
    For those who think there is ANY hope in any realm.

  25. Richard July 30, 2012 at 11:08 am #

    In referring to Zero Hedge you said “The characters who infest their comment section are some of the worst vermin in trolldom.”
    Are you sure you want to go sticking your finger in that cage? LOL

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  26. Peter Jones July 30, 2012 at 11:18 am #

    One of the trends missing from your collection is the slow, lurid, absolute slide of the real estate boom into a deflationary mess here in Canada. The keenest observer (and wittiest author) reporting the truth is Garth Turner, former Progressive Conservative MP who blogs daily at the brilliantly named http://greaterfool.ca
    Canadians missed the 2008 crash to a great extent, as property values continued to surpass anyone’s wildest expectations. Because it was deemed “safe” here, mortgage rates dropped below the US rates. The big cities went crazy for condos and believed that immigration speculator money would keep the good times rolling.
    From my location in downtown Toronto we can see a good 30+ cranes of the 200 reportedly still building. Banks pushed zero-down and 40 year mortgages on “property virgins” as Garth calls them.
    I’m an American from Dayton that moved here in mid-2000’s, largely due to foreseeable US mess and the electoral corruption in Ohio 2004. It was our Escape from Suburbia. But when I hear Canadians tell me “its different here” while they pay an average of $500K for crappy little houses in the city, it reminds me of the California craze in the mid-2000’s. On aggregate, it is NOT different anywhere.

  27. Jason July 30, 2012 at 11:29 am #

    Another recommended site for great coverage of agriculture including energy issues read: Big Picture Agriculture.

  28. Nastarana July 30, 2012 at 11:30 am #

    ‘glibertarian’ Wow!
    Love it. That is the best new word I have seen since I can’t remember when.
    May I use it? Do you want attribution, as in, eg,Bukko Canukko, frequent brilliant contributor at clusterfuck.com?

  29. Bukko Canukko July 30, 2012 at 11:34 am #

    Where you have condos in T.O, we have single-family homes in Vancouver, my fellow ex-American. Four homes have been torn down on just my city block this year, and three are being replaced by puffed-up (but cheaply built) homes on steroids. A typical home sells for $1.5 million, which makes the mortgage so expensive that most places have a separate family living in the basement to drum up extra cash for the (usually Chinese) real estate speculator who owns the place.
    I tell people all the time “Can’t you see what just happened south of the border with the American housing bubble?!?” They have a different reason for “it’s different here” — Chinese money will keep the market afloat; Vancouver will be more desirable in times of climate change, “it’s so beautiful here that people will always pay extra money for houses…” Canadians are mostly nice people, but they’re complacent and happy within their bubble. I cannot burst it.

  30. Nastarana July 30, 2012 at 11:35 am #

    Immigrant speculator money was being counted on here in the USA also. It was just not polite to say so. Not to mention, that, IMHO, the basic undelying reason our elites promote high immigration rates is not because they need servants, but in order to keep rents and property prices high. This you will not hear from JHK, bless his heart, who still does have his urbanite citizen -of-the-world biases.

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  31. R U Talking 2 Me July 30, 2012 at 11:36 am #

    I wonder if anyone here may confirm one way or the other whether what the Israel ambassador to Uruguay said about Chavez is correct.
    http://www.eluniversal.com/internacional/120729/embajador-israeli-en-uruguay-critica-ingreso-de-venezuela-a-mercosur
    Sorry, it is in Spanish, so I translated it
    The incorporation of the government of President Hugo Chavez to the Southern Common Market (Mercosur) “should be a major concern for the member countries” because “on the continent there are plenty of Iranian agents operating terror networks with the coverage offered by Venezuela” said the diplomat in remarks published today the Uruguayan newspaper El Pais, said Efe.
    The 3 presidents are getting together tomorrow in Brazil to formally confirm Venezuela’s entry into Mercosur. Paraguay is temporarily suspended from the block.
    I’ve been reading Kunstler’s blog for years, but this is the second time I enter a comment.
    R U Talking 2 Me?

  32. Bukko Canukko July 30, 2012 at 11:40 am #

    Thank you Nastarana, but it’s not my coinage. A blogger who calls himself “The Snarky Penguin” uses it a lot. True-believer libertarian are gib and smug about their happy imaginary society where everyone is a well-educated, wealthy homo economicus who makes completely rational, dispassionate decisions. There’s no fraud, crime and sociopathic power-mad personalities or corporations in their fantasyland. Unlike the world that actually exists, eh?

  33. anti soak July 30, 2012 at 11:45 am #

    I’m listening to a rerun of an NPR program.
    Author of ‘Funding our Enemy'[?].
    Karzais 2 cousins are in business. They were convicted heroin suppliers, here in the USA!

  34. Kyooshtik July 30, 2012 at 11:46 am #

    …trying to do something about the mess, than just towing a popular line.
    ===============
    As one of JHK’s vermin of trolldom, I suggest you read this link.
    http://grammartips.homestead.com/toetheline.html

  35. Bukko Canukko July 30, 2012 at 12:00 pm #

    That’s one irritant for me, and saying a book is “entitled” blah-blah-blah is another. You are entitled to something that you were promised (like Constitutional rights or Social Security) but a book has a TITLE. No “en” about it.

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  36. Niels Laughlin July 30, 2012 at 12:01 pm #

    Don’t forget Elaine Meinel Supkis over at Culture of Life News!
    url: http://emsnews.wordpress.com
    She does more than just economics.

  37. Stelios July 30, 2012 at 12:08 pm #

    “The term The Automatic Earth is from Paul Simon’s song Boy in the Bubble, not from Graceland,” Correct!
    “The title of the blog comes from a Paul Simon lyric out of Graceland.” Also Correct! That is the name of the album…
    To rights make… a u turn!

  38. helen highwater July 30, 2012 at 12:14 pm #

    One small correction – Stoneleigh has been posting excellent commentary at The Automatic Earth since at least 2008, she didn’t just start doing it in the past year.

  39. helen highwater July 30, 2012 at 12:18 pm #

    Sorry, I should have clarified that Nicole Foss writes as Stoneleigh at The Automatic Earth. Her primer, How to Build a Lifeboat, available at the site, is very useful.

  40. Desertrat July 30, 2012 at 12:19 pm #

    I’m familiar with most of Jim’s list, but I would definitely emphasize Bill Bonner’s Daily Reckoning. Another site which has been entertaining and useful is that of Doug Casey.

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  41. rippedthunder July 30, 2012 at 12:21 pm #

    Hey Matt, Squash Bugs? Thats one of my favorite pastimes!. Don’t tell my daughter though! My yorkie is a big fan of insect destruction. You should see that sumbitch chase a housefly! Imagine what a 12 lb dog looks like to a .5 gram insect? Probably like a Tyrannosaurus. Yousa!Gotta go Beautiful day for a wake! NOT!

  42. Kyooshtik July 30, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

    1.) his malaprop rate is staggering; – JHK speaking of a Puplava shortcoming
    ==============
    Sight unseen I will bet this Puplava dude can’t hold a candle to my brother-in-law. Following a conversation with Peter it could take upwards of an hour for the hair on the back of my neck to settle down into place.

  43. Ogier de Beauseant July 30, 2012 at 12:34 pm #

    It must get irritating as shit to keep calling for financial and beyond meltdown and the damn thing stubbornly keeps chugging along if at a jog rather than the expected gallop.

  44. Zev Paiss July 30, 2012 at 12:34 pm #

    Jim – It is great to see you mentioning all these great resources!
    One aspect that can always use more attention are more realistic and positive visions of what a livable society could look, feel, and be like. I have recently published a novel entitled “From Here to There: A Story of America’s Future” which will leave you both inspired and energized to continue the critical work of this Great Transition.
    Check it out at: http://www.fromhere-tothere.org

  45. SqueekyFromm July 30, 2012 at 12:36 pm #

    Re:ZeroHedge
    “The characters who infest their comment section are some of the worst vermin in trolldom.”
    Hey, I make comments over at ZH. . . Anyway, true dat about ZH, Jessie’s Cafe Americain, and Naked Capitalism. All three are great websites and I read them daily.
    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

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  46. Duke of Con Dao July 30, 2012 at 12:36 pm #

    I’m new to this site. A real rookie. Good work. here’s a new installment in the series: ‘You Didn’t Build That’ starring our President. in this segment Obama applies a smack down to Adolf Hitler for claiming that he built the Nazi Party.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeBkIt_NPXc

  47. Vlad Krandz July 30, 2012 at 12:39 pm #

    As a kid, I used to make red and black ants fight. The reds seemed to have more vitality and always won when of comparable size. Some of blacks were huge though – as a compensation. They could hold their own with the reds or even kill them when really big.
    Race exists even at the insect level. As does Feminism: the female praying mantis begins to eat her paramour even before he is finished. Losing his head doesn’t seem to compromise his performance.
    My Dad saw me arranging fight between the ants (I used gumball machine spheres as mini arenas) and told me not to be cruel. I considered his point of view – which I respected – and decided to continue. Ants and bugs where just too low on the scale of being to worry about it. To paraphrase the Bard: Like flies to wanton to boys, the Gods kill us for their sport. That might be the actual quote – close in any case.
    The real cruelty was wasps laying eggs inside the bodies of stunned tomato captapillars, which then ate them alive. I realized the kind of planet I was on then. The horror.

  48. johnc July 30, 2012 at 1:05 pm #

    Mish’s link was incorrect:
    http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/

  49. Rhino July 30, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

    To Jam47
    Re discussion last week
    IMO trying to fit people into color categories is a fool’s errand for the reasons I’ve already stated. So if the science of “race” is all about that then I think it’s misguided. Grossly oversimplifying. A waste of time.
    About your Nigerian vs Swede example. Numerous times I’ve heard and read that there are more genetic differences within “races” than between “races”. No doubt you’ve heard and read the same thing.
    How many times have you heard that Subsharan Africans are the most genetically diverse people on earth? Does it make sense then to shoehorn black skinned people into this construct called a black “race”? Someone made the point a while back that there are neighboring tribes of Bushmen in the Kalahari that are more genetically distinct from one another than Frenchmen are from Japanese.
    A while ago there was a discovery in the Tarim Basin in the desert of western China that had white racists up on their hind legs for some reason or other (can’t remember why, maybe some like Vlad can remind us). You may have heard of the finds. Many interesting things: mummified remains of tall, white skinned people that wore plaid, rode horses and which therefore pointed to western and possibly European origins. Some said they were Celts, others said they were Germanic.
    Then the good scientists did DNA studies of the remains. More interesting stuff came out. The mummies contained DNA markers most typically found in people far to the east in China but also far to the north in Siberia and far to the south in India.
    So it looks like the good people in the Tarim Basin weren’t too fussy about who they were screwing. So the DNA pointed to multiple origins for these fine white folks. You no doubt noticed the same thing, that the typical horn-dog male, if given a choice between the girls of his village and the girls in the village downstream, will prefer the exotic flowers in the village downstream. Nature’s way I guess of preventing in-breeding.
    So let’s not be too confident of one’s “white-ness” or “Chinese-ness” or whatever. There are multitudes of bodily systems besides skin color the molecular study of which may point to ancestral origins in places in the world that you never expected.

  50. mousedude July 30, 2012 at 1:12 pm #

    Just what I need; more addictive blogs for my RSS feed.

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  51. anti soak July 30, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    ‘About your Nigerian vs Swede example. Numerous times I’ve heard and read that there are more genetic differences within “races” than between “races”. No doubt you’ve heard and read the same thing’.
    OK, so why is there so much similarity w/i a race, if there is so much ‘genetic difference’ there?
    I doubt you’ve wondered about this, you should.

  52. Jam47 July 30, 2012 at 2:23 pm #

    A grammar point. You’re forewarned.
    A coke dealer and his girlfriend are in his apartment. The girlfriend goes to the window and looks out. She says, “There’s five police cars outside.”
    Wrong. Simply wrong.
    Expand the contraction and you get “There IS five police cars outside.” The subject of the sentence is “cars”; the verb is “is.”
    “Cars IS”?
    If the grammarians of English have settled on one rule as fundamental, it is this: The subject of a clause or sentence must agree with its verb in number, singular matching singular, plural matching plural.
    There ARE five police cars outside. Not THERE’S.
    People not only speak this way, they write this way.

  53. Kryo July 30, 2012 at 2:41 pm #

    An excellent blog is http://survivalacres.com/blog/
    He doesn’t identify himself by name, that I can tell. He is one of the most hard-core doom-and-gloomers going, and each time he threatens to stop writing, because there’s no point in convincing those who aren’t already convinced, he comes back with more relentless evidence that we are circling the drain, which can get rather depressing, but it beats ignorance and wishful thinking and denial.
    He still runs a survival food business, one of the most honest and ethical out there.

  54. Buck Stud July 30, 2012 at 3:09 pm #

    “Salutes to the Homeys” you say?
    My title would read: “Ten Bloggers You Never Want To Take To Las Vegas”.
    You might say, ‘I still recognize my hometown’ since the Christmas of 08, despite “Ilargi’s” nutty prediction to the contrary.

  55. Jimmy Drinkwater July 30, 2012 at 3:18 pm #

    A good rule of thumb for ZeroHedge comments is NEVER READ A COMMENT THAT’S LESS THAN THREE LINES LONG.

    Yes I believe that’s an valid assessment for the most part there and scanning those entries can save some time. Just as here after the first 75 or 100 comments or so when the mostly “the replied to comment from” neurosis begins. Nothing much gets said, if it does it’s far too tedious to weed through the banality

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  56. Kyooshtik July 30, 2012 at 3:22 pm #

    Expand the contraction and you get “There IS five police cars outside.” The subject of the sentence is “cars”; the verb is “is.”
    ==============
    Get a grip on yourself Jam. If there’s one thing we don’t need around here it’s a fuckin’ grammar troll!

  57. Doc Holliday July 30, 2012 at 3:26 pm #

    Thanks Jim.
    Some of those sites I’m familiar with, some not.
    The Automatic Earth is one of my favorites but the Doom Porn here is of exceptional quality so please keep it up.
    I clicked to Mish Shedlock long enough to read that Mish sees it as a good idea for the judge to allow municipal bankruptcy to include taking the health benefits of those losing their jobs.
    This is a good idea I suppose unless you happen to be one of those people who worked their through most of their productive lives, only to find themselves begging on the church steps or placing a donation jar at the local 7-11 for that leg brace he always wanted or that operation for his kid.
    Mish, to his credit, does say that this process should be from the top down, but fails to mention which “top” he is talking about.
    The Mayor of Stockton or Jamie Diamond?
    Even for those like me with a dim understanding of the dynamics of the collapse of industrial civilization, it does not mean that all of us will take a philosophic view of the Elite pushing our little heads under water first and may react in some undesirable and probably futile ways.
    Sorry. My Socialism is showing again.

  58. Widespreadpanic7 July 30, 2012 at 3:51 pm #

    Jim, I think I’ll stick with Thomas Hobbes’ “Leviathan”. That and Spengler’s “Decline of the West” tells me all I need to know.
    And of course your books as well.
    –WSP7

  59. lsjogren July 30, 2012 at 3:53 pm #

    Hoo boy, big homework assignment here.
    The only one of these I have frequented is Puplava’s news hour and that gets kind of old after a while.
    However, I don’t see a problem with having guests on and letting them make their pitch without feedback, leaving it to the listeners to decide for themselves.
    Also not sure what this bircher business is all about. I thought those were the conservative anti-globalists of the 50s or 60s. For the most part Puplava strikes me as too devout a capitalist to have much antipathy toward globalism.
    A few of the other blogs are slightly familiar but basically I am facing 11 homework assignments.

  60. Hammering Truth July 30, 2012 at 3:55 pm #

    Mish is brilliant but don’t prove him wrong: http://youtu.be/a0RKa4WZ3lo Hammeringtruth.com

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  61. charliefoxtrot July 30, 2012 at 3:59 pm #

    FREE FOR ALL!!!
    ok, lost a couple of hours to that list…now for something completely different- am i the only one who is less than enthused by the olimpic ‘coverage’? i mean, water polo? really?! and has it occurred to anyone at nbc that we don t all care how the americans are doing to the exclusion of all other contests…? wtftstf does it matter how well the swimmers are doing to someone who gives not a fuck about the 100meter butterfly, how long it takes, or how many medals china got…?! and how about the useless pontificating, stupid music videos and interviews with the coach? show some sporting events, please…end of rant…for now

  62. lsjogren July 30, 2012 at 4:02 pm #

    Shedlock sounds OK to me. As a taxpayer who has to pay for my own health insurance, I don’t mind paying taxes to fund health care for the poor, but I don’t consider it very fair for me to be paying the health care for some middle class guy who may very well be better off financially than I am.

  63. kenuck July 30, 2012 at 4:09 pm #

    Got to love that Max Keiser and Stacy..surprised Dimon hasn’t put a hit out on them.

  64. Tim July 30, 2012 at 4:15 pm #

    Thanks for this… I heard about TAE on here for the first time – then I think I also heard TAE mentioned on the Oil Drum about the same time, which finally got me reading them. It has been most illuminating. I passed that information to many others, some of whom seemed more receptive than others, and I had moments of self-doubt about sending doomer stuff to people who just don’t want to hear it – but I think based on their whole set of predictions on Greece starting a year ago TAE has been proven to be far more honest and useful than anything in the “mainstream” media. I’ll have to make time to check the rest of these out…

  65. Kyooshtik July 30, 2012 at 4:18 pm #

    1.) his malaprop rate is staggering; – JHK speaking of a Puplava shortcoming
    ==============
    Coincidentally, my brother sent me a link today of Puplava (who (whom?) I had never heard of till Jim’s essay this morning) conducting an interview on 11/30/2011 with an Ann Barnhardt. The audio-only interview ran 30 minutes of which she spoke about 27 minutes and Puplava 3 mins. I only heard one verbal gaff from Pup. He said stoled as the past tense of steal. It’s stole.
    This error is so common I wouldn’t usually lose more than 30-45 mins of sleep over it when I go to bed.

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  66. Prelapsarian Press July 30, 2012 at 4:21 pm #

    Thanks for passing along these resources, JHK. The majority are new to me. And the topic has brought out some excellent posters.
    Also, I for one would like to see regular updates on the health issues you’ve raised; e.g., cholesterol rebellion and cobalt poisoning from a metal-on-metal prosthesis. I’d imagine your following includes many from the demographic that would be especially interested.

  67. Jam47 July 30, 2012 at 4:41 pm #

    You want to deprive me of my fun, Kyooshtik? Spoilsport!

  68. Poet July 30, 2012 at 4:44 pm #

    For those of you who think JHK is some wise-ass, obnoxious, New Yorker, smitten by an addiction to a thesaurus when a simple dictionary would do, please become enlightened as I was by his interview with Diane Horn on KEXP Seattle this past weekend on their Mind Over Matters show. For an entire half hour JHK talked about his new book “Too Much Magic” without the usual snarky sarcasm that infects his weekly column.

    Though only an act, every once in a while it is nice to see JHK drop the “game face” and display his humanity. You can listen to the interview here:

    http://kexp.org/streamarchive/streamarchive.asp
    Select the show “Mind Over Matters”

    Then select the 07-28-12 show

    Then select the time at 7 AM

    Hear JHK the way you never expected him to sound!

  69. anti soak July 30, 2012 at 4:46 pm #

    [to] ? Misspelled intentionally?
    Will people please report on, assuming you do read, JHK blog recommendations?

  70. cougar_w July 30, 2012 at 4:48 pm #

    “ZeroHedge: The characters who infest their comment section are some of the worst vermin in trolldom.”
    Now now Jim, some of us ZHers are better than others. Between WB7 and myself we even squeeze in some art!

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  71. muddmike July 30, 2012 at 4:48 pm #

    Jam,
    My theory is that many people don’t get their grammar correct when they speak, because they are just spewing words, and don’t think about what they are saying. If they thought before they spoke, they would realize that the subject is plural and the verb should then also be plural.
    I always cringe at the number of people who apparently don’t know the difference between less and fewer. As in, there were less people here today!
    :>(

  72. Vlad Krandz July 30, 2012 at 4:57 pm #

    Your whole thought structure is a leanin tower of pizza. You should get out that musty head room and go outside for awhile. East grass like Sweeney and Gilgamesh.
    As human beings, we live in Mansions and Castles. Yet we insist on staying in the basement or a cluttered, unheated garret up top.

  73. James Howard Kunstler July 30, 2012 at 5:03 pm #

    My apologies to readers and Dmitry Orlov for leaving out his wonderful ClubOrlov blog. Pure brain fart on my part. I added it this afternoon. Orlov is a great stylist and thinker for whom I have the highest admiration.
    –JHK

  74. Vlad Krandz July 30, 2012 at 5:08 pm #

    It’s all playing with perspective. Do I look like the basketball star Michael Jordan? Compared with a fish I do. Two arms, two legs, head, etc.
    But compared to other human beings, I don’t. Likewise at the genetic level. Our opponents say the differences are small. No doubt – but big enough to cause massive differences in behavior, affinity, and ability. Among Europeans, the Sardinians and Basques are some distance away from the cluster of nations. And among the clusters of races, the Blacks are the farthest from everyone. Why? Because the other races all left Africa – and are kinsmen at least that far.

  75. Jam47 July 30, 2012 at 5:28 pm #

    Some groups can be categorized by race while others cannot. That’s my position. If you think this is sufficient reason to obviate the concept of race, that’s fine. I happen to disagree.

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  76. k-dog July 30, 2012 at 6:00 pm #

    Despite my dislike of Wikipedia I’m compelled to post this link Peak Oil
    A solute to the homeys is incomplete without mention of what they are all talking about, which is nothing more than the facts. Also known as R-E-A-L-I-T-Y.
    Wikipedia is a cesspool of political propaganda but at least they admit there is such a thing.
    Something all homeys know.

  77. Doc Holliday July 30, 2012 at 6:03 pm #

    I pay for my own health insurance as well.
    That is not my point.
    I pay because I am self employed.
    If I had had a job with the understanding that this was part of my pay package, I would be pissed and so should they.
    You can’t rhetroactively blame someone for taking a decent paying job with specified benefits if they are pissed when the rug is jerked from under them through no fault of their own.

  78. k-dog July 30, 2012 at 6:05 pm #

    Yeah, kind of wondered about that myself. I expect you’ll be payen for dinner next time you see him?

  79. asoka.. July 30, 2012 at 7:21 pm #

    If there’s one thing we don’t need around here it’s a fuckin’ grammar troll!
    Introductory clauses are dependent clauses. Introductory clauses provide background information or “set the stage” for the main part of the sentence, the independent clause.
    Introductory clauses start with adverbs like after, although, as, because, before, if, since, though, until, when, etc.
    A comma is required after the introduction, like this:
    If there’s one thing we don’t need around here, it’s a fuckin’ grammar troll!
    Examples:
    Because English is probably your second language, you are ignorant of the introductory clause rule.
    Since your spell checker does not alert you, you are clueless that you left out a comma.

  80. helen highwater July 30, 2012 at 7:38 pm #

    To those anal people on here who are always criticizing grammar, just want to let you know that I personally do not give a rat’s ass how a person spells something or what kind of grammar they use. I am far more interested in whether or not their post contains an intelligent bit of commentary. And the posts of the grammar pickers do not.

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  81. Vlad Krandz July 30, 2012 at 7:39 pm #

    Yeah and those people aren’t around anymore – guess race mixing has its problems. A man can have sex with women of other races, but when your women do it, the game is over.

  82. Vlad Krandz July 30, 2012 at 7:50 pm #

    Also Mr Kunstler has called the Birchers a bunch of “fucking Nazis”. That they turned out to be right about everyhing really burns Liberals. As was Joe McCarthy.
    Btw, the Birchers were patriotic American – many of whom had fought the Nazis. So that charge is slander.

  83. asoka.. July 30, 2012 at 7:52 pm #

    James, no apology necessary for leaving out Dmitri.
    Thank you for today’s overview of other relevant sites.

  84. Vlad Krandz July 30, 2012 at 7:55 pm #

    All that logic and structure is just actin’ White. Blacks don’t need that shit – they jus feel and “shout out” what they knows. High School Math teachers have been ordered to submit to “Black Ways of Knowledge”.

  85. progress4spam July 30, 2012 at 7:57 pm #

    That;’s quite a reading list, JHK.
    I just spent a little while going through it, and now I feel like I should take to my bed for the rest of the week to recover.
    Seriously, that’s some primo gloom and doom!
    Thanks so much for sharing, and for showing your readership where you get some of your ideas and your motivations.
    A minor correction – your Lauren Lyster link connects erroneously to bill moyer’s webpage.
    Here’s one Lyster Link. There may be better ones.
    And she has a bunch of videos on YouTube.
    http://rt.com/tags/lauren-lyster/
    And you’re right – she’s nice to look at.
    Thanks again!

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  86. asoka.. July 30, 2012 at 8:03 pm #

    K-Dog, topics like peak oil, global warming, Euro collapse, etc. may not be very important a year from today.
    If Romney wins, his neo-con agenda (led by the Cheney/Bolton team of Bush/Romney advisors) will likely result in mo’ better wars.
    A war involving the USA/Israel against Iran/China/Russia, will likely result in a nuclear conflagration that will make us forget about peak oil.
    I would be OK having K-Dog, not Romney, as President. But I will be voting for Dr. Jill Stein.

  87. Crazy Horse July 30, 2012 at 8:08 pm #

    And for those who like a little meat with their potatoes, read one of the few economists worth listening to, Steve Keen. http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/

  88. Crazy Horse July 30, 2012 at 8:19 pm #

    Vlad, as much as I detest the drivel you spew forth on this site, I must say we agree on one point. Black people and white people are not the same. In the baking heat and increased UV radiation of the world our offspring will endure, we Aryans are decidedly inferior and will eventually die out as we are replaced by a race more suited to the environment.
    Vlad, you are an Aryan, aren’t you? not a dark skinned person with the mother of all inferiority complexes?

  89. San Jose Mom 51 July 30, 2012 at 8:42 pm #

    I disagree with you Helen.
    Q is very wise in the ways of finance, and can be relied upon for honest, ethical advice concerning money.
    Jen

  90. Jam47 July 30, 2012 at 8:48 pm #

    Ever heard of Bertrand Russell’s remark to the effect that manners, high manners, the kind you’d need so as not to appear a barbarian at a hoity-toity dinner party, was invented by the upper classes to keep the bourgeoisie in its place?
    Something similar may have happened with grammar. Some of the rules are arbitrary. They were invented, it seems, to separate the wheat from the chaff, literacy-wise. These can go.
    The rule on subject-verb agreement, however, is logical. It helps to hold the language together.
    As for spewing, I do a fair amount of it myself. If a grammar policeman (policewoman, policeperson) were (was) to follow me around with a notebook and make a record of my voiced mistakes, he (she, it) would be doing a lot of scribbling. But he’d never hear me make a pairing of “there’s” with a plural noun.
    When I was young I never used to hear the “there’s” misusage. Now it’s everywhere. Even people who’ve passed through university say it. Everyone has their pet grammatical peeve. Mine is this “there’s” thing.

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  91. Jam47 July 30, 2012 at 9:00 pm #

    Have you ever read George Orwell’s essay “Politics and the English Language”? I haven’t. But between the both of us, I think you’re the one who needs to.

  92. muddmike July 30, 2012 at 9:15 pm #

    Jam,
    Yes, much of grammar is to make it easier to understand what is being said. This is why I dislike the less-fewer problem. Fewer refers to discrete items that can be counted, such as people, dollars and apples
    Less refers to things that aren’t discrete items that can’t be counted, such as food, weight and water.
    The singular-plural problem can also lead to misunderstandings. There is a certain amount of redundancy built into most languages to minimize communication error. The internet uses a large amount of redundancy to make sure data is correctly transferred.
    Minor spelling or grammatical errors usually don’t bother me.

  93. muddmike July 30, 2012 at 9:19 pm #

    Here is the Orwell essay.
    https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

  94. asoka.. July 30, 2012 at 9:31 pm #

    The rule on subject-verb agreement, however, is logical. It helps to hold the language together.
    jam47, you are artificially privileging this grammar rule over other grammar rules.
    Grammar rules (all of them) are intended to facilitate communication. They are very important in formal writing, but not so much in informal writings such as “conversational” posts to this blog, if you know what I mean.
    Q. is having fun with his grammar correction schtick, and I am having fun correcting his corrections.
    But none of it is necessary, nor relevant, to the topic of this forum, as Helen Highwater correctly noted.
    What is relevant to this blog?
    Let’s see… there’s nuclear proliferation, nuclear war, overpopulation, overshoot, EROEI, environmental degradation, peak oil. These topics contribute to our CLUSTERFUCK NATION.
    Grammar errors like “there’s” are not relevant. Although, in the sentence above, the grammar rule about implied subjects would say that “there’s” is correct in that sentence because it is implied before each item, but is omitted so as to avoid repetition: there’s nuclear proliferation, there’s nuclear war, there’s overpopulation, there’s overshoot, there’s EROEI, there’s environmental degradation, there’s peak oil.
    See how that works? Grammar helps in the economy of language. “There’s” is correct even when it appears the subject is plural.

  95. johnnyboy July 30, 2012 at 9:34 pm #

    Lot of comments.
    Jim, I agree with you on the Archdruid, John Michael Greer. I think he gives us a most likely eventuality, a relentless degeneration of the present abundance and extravagance over a more lengthy time frame. Although it seems lately, his feel is for a quicker pace. I tend toward that historical cycle thing, and believe that our present place in that cycle is going to be made special due size, complexity. and the increasing lack of the main input, cheap energy,
    I think that boy’s on to something.
    We leave it to you Jim to fill in the details

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  96. San Jose Mom 51 July 30, 2012 at 9:59 pm #

    It is commonly known in the Bay Area, that only folks living in Palo Alto know how to use a semicolon.

  97. muddmike July 30, 2012 at 10:23 pm #

    Does that mean that people in Palo Alto only give half a sh*t?

  98. justjane July 30, 2012 at 11:30 pm #

    I really doubt that Bertrand would have said “manners…is” and have to smile at the unintended irony in Jam47’s reference to the passage in order to bolster a case for subject-verb agreement. That said, I applaud and agree with both thinkers/writers!

  99. Vlad Krandz July 30, 2012 at 11:32 pm #

    You Lefties hate Nixon too because he prosecuted Alger Hiss.
    About race, you might have had a point before Global Warming was revealed to be an Illuminati Scam. But we are more likely to be going into an ice age. And secondly, race is much more than skin deep anyway.

  100. anti soak July 31, 2012 at 12:29 am #

    I really AdOrE the writings of a Ms. Shaidle at TAKIs, Heres from her latest.
    And make no mistake: It was Voula Papachristou’s voting habits (revealed in earlier Tweets) that ultimately cost her the opportunity to live out her lifelong dream.
    Almost every news story about her ouster mentioned her support for Greece’s “anti-immigrant” Golden Dawn Party.
    Wikipedia helpfully provides this list of distinguished “Black African immigrants to Greece”: [ahem, cough]
    • Daniel Batista Lima – Soccer player
    • Yvette Jarvis – Former basketball player
    • Nestoras Kommatos – professional basketball player
    • Sofoklis Schortsanitis – professional basketball player
    • Isaias Matiaba – Singer
    • Nery Mantey Niangkouara – former swimmer
    • MC Yinka – Rapper
    In other words, so far these immigrants make the same “contributions” to their new homes that make Black History Month the world over seem three weeks too long.[!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]
    Vlad, what were you saying about Wiki?

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  101. daytrip July 31, 2012 at 12:33 am #

    Doom porn. How about Fred On Everything? I’ve followed that link from this comment section a few times and usually found it to be pretty entertaining. Fred’s the man. Too lowbrow?

  102. xhalor July 31, 2012 at 1:22 am #

    Too Peckerwood.

  103. San Jose Mom 51 July 31, 2012 at 1:23 am #

    Yes indeed! But it has no smell.

  104. Buck Stud July 31, 2012 at 1:30 am #

    Well now, even Victor David Hansen is starting to read like JHK; if not regarding high-speed rail, at least on the decadent state of culture, etc:

    Take the new high-speed rail project, whose first link is designated to zoom not far from my house. An empiricist would note there is already an Amtrak (money-losing) line from Fresno to Corcoran (home of Charles Manson). There is now no demand to use another lateral (getting nowhere more quickly?). There is no proof that California public agencies — from universities to the DMV — can fulfill their present responsibilities in such a way that we would have confidence that new unionized state workers could run such a dangerous thing as high-speed rail (e.g., if we can’t keep sofas and washing machines out of the local irrigation ponds, why do we think we could keep them off high-speed rail tracks? Do we think we are French?).

    Of course, the glory days of the California economic miracle were not lacking in union workers, especially not incompetent ones. So his right-wing agenda/bias clouds his view in that regard. But it’s a rather interesting article on the decline of California; an article which does not strike me as false on many counts:

  105. Buck Stud July 31, 2012 at 1:30 am #

    And the link to the entire article:
    http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/california-the-road-warrior-is-here/?singlepage=true

  106. xhalor July 31, 2012 at 1:32 am #

    I mean,
    There’s….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muMcWMKPEWQ

  107. Buck Stud July 31, 2012 at 1:33 am #

    The link to the Hanson article:
    http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/california-the-road-warrior-is-here/?singlepage=true

  108. xhalor July 31, 2012 at 1:36 am #

    Eh…I say it’s still worse in NY.

  109. Eleuthero July 31, 2012 at 1:48 am #

    From Fred On Everything this week. Keep in mind that Fred tends to be a moderate liberal:
    “I read, with the joy that I usually reserve for recurrent migraines, that Precedent Obama will establish an Office of African-American Education, thus furthering the racial Balkanization of the country, providing makework jobs for useless bureaucrats and, predictably, accomplishing nothing.”
    Maybe more writers in more important places than Fred will start talking plainly like this.
    E.

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  110. Eleuthero July 31, 2012 at 1:52 am #

    More from Fred on Everything:
    Everything in America aims at somehow keeping blacks happy. Think this is just my idea? Walter Williams, the black and sensible columnist, has written, “Academic intelligentsia, their media, government and corporate enthusiasts worship at the altar of diversity. Despite budget squeezes, universities have created diversity positions, such as director of diversity and inclusion, manager of diversity recruitment, associate dean for diversity, vice president of diversity and perhaps minister of diversity.”
    E.

  111. asoka.. July 31, 2012 at 2:01 am #

    Ever heard of Bertrand Russell’s remark to the effect that manners, high manners, the kind you’d need so as not to appear a barbarian at a hoity-toity dinner party, was invented by the upper classes to keep the bourgeoisie in its place?

    jam47, there’s manners and then there’s manners.
    You have incorrectly used the singular verb with a plural subject by saying “manners … was invented”
    Bertrand Russell did not use the singular verb when referring to the plural manners:

    The evils of “good form” arise from two sources: its perfect assurance of its own rightness, and its belief that correct manners are more to be desired than intellect, or artistic creation, or vital energy, or any of the other sources of progress in the world.

    SOURCE: Principles of social reconstruction. London: Allen & Unwin, 1916.

  112. daytrip July 31, 2012 at 2:29 am #

    Had to laugh, good one.

  113. daytrip July 31, 2012 at 2:57 am #

    “There’s only two kinds of music: the blues and zippety doo-dah.”-Townes Van Zandt
    There’s
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qpcu7rDHAo

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  115. Buck Stud July 31, 2012 at 3:12 am #

    Asoka,
    It’s obvious you should just claim victory in the grammar battle – who would still want to tangle with you on the subject.
    Besides, I’m about out of Preparation H as a result of Q’s grammatical excursions 🙂

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  117. hthqrdjhiu July 31, 2012 at 3:58 am #

    Life Size Standees

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    Among the best uses we have learned on the subject of applying cardboard cutouts is when President Obama failed to show up at an event in Norway so the organizers used a cutboard cutout of him instead.
    But there are more practical reasons for using cardboard cutouts such as the impact on merchandising, so make sure you consider the benefits of adding a life size cardboard cutout to your merchandising arsenal.
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  118. setkqluy8w July 31, 2012 at 4:37 am #

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  119. gugbank47 July 31, 2012 at 5:09 am #

    Sony Confirms ModNation Racers: PS3 Demo Hits PSN May 18th
    112w ago – SCEA’s Associate Product Marketing Manager Chuck Lacson has confirmed today on the PlayStation Blog that the much anticipated ModNation Racers: PS3 demo hits PSN on May 18, 2010.

    To quote: I’m happy to confirm that on Tuesday, May 18th, the ModNation Racers Demo goes live and you can finally sample the over-the-top kart racing action and deep creation tools the critics have been raving about.

    So the question is- “What will you be able to do? Well let me break it down:

    Get your Feet Wet in Single Player – Race on one of the in-game tracks against AI in Single Player and test both your driving skills and your weapon management.

    Face Off in Multiplayer! – Challenge up to 3 of your friends and race against each other in Offline Split Screen Multiplayer.

    Design your Mod and Kart – Hop into the Creation Station to make your own Mod and customize your own Kart. See what you can do with just a fraction of the accessories from the full game!

    Make a Full Track and Test Drive it! – Lay down some asphalt and drive your track to life! Sculpt mountains, create lakes, and place props wherever you want. Then take your Track for a spin sdhc memory card!

    Save your creations and Share them in the Full game! – Keep you creations on your hard drive and enjoy them with the full retail copy of ModNation Racers. Share your creations with friends as well!

    We hope you are looking forward to your taste of our next Play, Create and Share experience.

    There have been concerns online about long load times in the final game and while even though UFG improved load times since the beta, they are looking into further optimizing the game via a post-launch patch!

    So there you go! See for yourself next week what ModNation is all about.

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  120. asoka.. July 31, 2012 at 5:51 am #

    Buck Stud, I would be happy to never make another post related to grammar.
    However, each week corrections are made and the corrections themselves contain errors. It motivates me to correct the grammar police (for fun).
    There’s no need for grammar corrections on an informal blog. I enjoy correcting the grammar police anyway. I would never initiate a grammar post or make an unwarranted correction. I would only do that if communication was severely impaired. Usually the meaning is decipherable.

  121. hoytrditae July 31, 2012 at 5:58 am #

    Health Insurance Reform Marketing Full Court Press

    With a public that remains skeptical of both the concept and execution of healthcare reform, the Obama administration believes that what is needed is a greater public relations effort. Strangely for a president whose campaign marketing was wildly successful and admired, he has largely dropped the ball in this respect.
    Simple–yet effective–slogans like “Yes we can” and “Change you can believe in” turned into convoluted explanations of how health coverage will now be available to people with pre-existing conditions whose employers fail to offer insurance. While it is perfectly understandable that many Americans would consider the purported benefits not worth the drawbacks and cost, supporters feel that even those who would see direct benefits do not know or understand it yet.
    Seeking to change that, President Obama is conducting a speaking tour in between Gulf oil spill emergency commitments and dealing with other issues. His first stop had him highlighting one of the near-immediate provisions: the $250 prescription drug rebates for Medicare recipients. Older Americans have been more cold on the concept of healthcare reform in general. The news has been on how the law results in some cuts to Medicare Advantage programs. Meanwhile, this demographic is already insured, so most positive elements of the bill do not assist them (although they may help younger family members).
    Over the summer, several parts of reform will come into effect. These include stronger regulations against health insurer industry practices some consider abusive, the temporary high-risk affordable health insurance pool for people with pre-existing conditions, and a consumer-friendly website meant to make comparing coverage options easier. Obama plans to draw attention to each of these moments through speeches and other media appearances.
    Simultaneously, Democrats in Congress will be running in contentious battles to retain their seats in the November midterm elections. If this promotion strategy cools some voters’ anger towards the legislation, the gamble will pay off and prevent the GOP from regaining a majority in the House of Representatives and/or the Senate. However, it also runs the risk of only reminding them of a negative issue.
    Furthermore, those government agencies responsible for implementation must do their part. If their efforts are flawed, those marketing tactics will only serve to highlight those flaws. The administration has few chances left to sell healthcare reform. With the Dunn-Grossman advocacy groups and a potential $25 million advertising blitz, proponents hope that this campaign will succeed.

  122. jhwxlqfgm July 31, 2012 at 5:58 am #

    The Top 5 Internet Sensations In Politics Seen On Satellite Broadband

    Like every other facet of our world, the impact of the internet on politics has been enormous. Perhaps even greater was the rise of video and the ability of users to post clips online via You Tube. Here are the five biggest politics sensations seen on satellite internet in the history of video use online.
    5. The Obama family dog debate. Once the long and bitter 2008 election process — which spanned years — finally ended, everyone longed for a release. Almost by accident, Barack Obama delivered the solution in his acceptance speech in November. By promising a dog to his children and saying the decision was still up in the air, Obama created an overwhelming amount of discussion on the dog question. Satellite internet never had such a sweet viral sensation, and cute pooch videos are still being uploaded.
    4. Hillary Clinton as Big Brother. The You Tube video that turned an attempt at candor by Hillary Clinton into an all-out campaign war. While Obama tried to root out the source — vaguely tied to his campaign — Clinton cried foul and we got a taste of the showdown that endured for many hard months. Satellite internet subscribers couldn? get enough of this fight, which began with a very impressive piece of video work.
    3. George Allen puts his foot in his mouth. In what turned out to be a pivotal moment in his failed campaign to retain his Virginia Senate seat, George Allen had his ?acaca Moment?in 2006 and let opponent Jim Webb into a race considered to be over before it started. Showing the dramatic effects an amateur video can have on the political process, Allen? racially-tinged epithet became a must-see on satellite internet.
    2. Obama Girl. In a strange but not entirely unforeseen moment, a beautiful woman who directed her affection toward Obama in the midst of his presidential bid became an unmistakable sensation all over the web. Lip-synching a romantic song for her contender, this scantily-clad supporter featured a level of sexuality not seen in politics since Marilyn Monroe crooned ?appy Birthday?to President Kennedy in the ?0s. Like any attention-grabbing clip, this role was reprised continuously throughout the course of the election process.
    1. Stephen Colbert roasts George W. Bush. For a country angered by the Iraq war and the inability of the mainstream media to confront George W. Bush on its policies, Stephen Colbert took matters into his own hands. At the annual White House Press Correspondents Association dinner, Colbert delivered one of his famously-styled speeches which roasted Bush in a merciless way. Unable to get away, Bush was forced to endure the humiliation. Satellite internet subscribers were glued to the video for months to come.

  123. sxfpoyv77 July 31, 2012 at 6:26 am #

    EA announces 100 million lifetime sales for FIFA, free Ultimate Team download
    Electronic Arts has announced that its FIFA soccer franchise has reached sales of over 100 million units during its 18-year-long lifetime, and that’s a lot of virtual soccer balls. FIFA Soccer 11 helped push the series over the century mark, selling 2.6 million copies in its first five days, making it the fastest selling sports video game of all time.

    To celebrate Carte R4, EA is giving this year’s version of its tie-in management game, FIFA 11 Ultimate Team, away for free along with the main game. Last year, the DLC was sold for an extra charge, but in FIFA 11, players can download the new mode for free, and it features both an enhanced multiplayer mode where players can pit their teams against each other, as well as a full-featured web app to auction and trade players outside of the console title.

    That’s pretty drop-kickin’ awesome if you ask us. If you own FIFA 11 on the Xbox or PS3, you can pick Ultimate Team up for free from the in-game menus right now.

      Source: EA Sports
  124. dfgbank94 July 31, 2012 at 8:01 am #

    Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock gets KISS-mas Track Pack
    KISS-mas? That’s a bit of a stretch, isn’t it? Regardless, a trio of KISS tunes for Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock, including “Rock and Roll All Nite,” “Detroit Rock City” and “Calling Dr. Love,” will be available today on Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii for $5.50 (440 MS Points). The songs will also be available individually for $2 apiece.

    If you’re still feeling a little PECK-ish for music DLC (okay, that was a stretch), Linkin Park adds remixes of “The Catalyst (Does It Offend You R4 SDHC Upgrade Card 2GB, Yeah? Remix),” “When They Come For Me” and “Pts.OF.Athrty” to DJ Hero 2. The pack will cost 640 Microsoft Points on Xbox 360, $7.99 on PS3 and be sold individually at 300 Wii Points each on Nintendo’s console.

      Source: Activision
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  125. ozone July 31, 2012 at 8:28 am #

    Interesting that JHK’s addendum post was sandwiched betwixt 2 posts by the spurious mr. vlad KKKlan-dz.
    A telling reflection of the [mis]direction furiously waving its’ black flag in our faces.
    Thanks for the photo, lederhosen boy! I’ll treasure it always…

  126. ozone July 31, 2012 at 8:31 am #

    Thanks to All and Sundry for the links to the maps of the Waking Nightmare and paths over the deadly terrain of the Great Crumbling.
    Back to perusing a bunch of ’em.

  127. ozone July 31, 2012 at 8:57 am #

    An additional link to a very diverse collection of articles, updated every few days or so:
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
    Good luck. Place your bets, Ladies and Gents!

  128. progress4spam July 31, 2012 at 9:51 am #

    Here comes the future – ready or not:
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/31/world/asia/india-blackout/index.html
    And that’s a good Fred, E.
    Plenty of truth for ozone and asoka..to deny.
    And plenty of truth for Vlad to exaggerate.
    And to whoever said that Fred was “too peckerwood,” for JHK – that’s funny! Probably true, but still funny.

  129. ozone July 31, 2012 at 10:10 am #

    You might enjoy this cut that shows a few of the things Mr. Emmanuel can do with a guitar:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo8U20LicdU&feature=related
    I had the distinct pleasure of sitting 20 ft. away from this amazing virtuoso on Sunday night at the Infinity Music Hall. Probably the most stunning 2 hours and 40 minutes I’ve ever been musically riveted by. Both artist and venue are highly recommended!

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  130. ozone July 31, 2012 at 10:28 am #

    Sorry. I didn’t catch the denial train. But I invite you (and the diarrheal “a”) to concentrate on “that subject” all you like. (I don’t happen to think it will be much of a continuing factor for very long. The only thing supporting this kind of foolishness is TOO MUCH MONEY that a society [and its’ proxy educational institutions] of glut is “blessed” with. …And yes, shortly there will be plenty of [suddenly disenfranchised] pissed-off people whose numbers will be impossible to ignore.)
    Apologies for the snark, but fixating on the “trees” is not helpful, IMO. All this is so much dross to be pitched over the side; we can’t “have it all”, as much as the narrow-minded and selectively-focused might wish it to be so.

  131. ozone July 31, 2012 at 10:33 am #

    (The blackouts in India are an indication of coming attractions, and a menacing growl in the darkness. About 600 million dispensable souls and useless eaters without their “usual” electrical slaves is kind of a big deal.)

  132. ozone July 31, 2012 at 11:01 am #

    Selection #523 of Fred’s will be an ongoing phenomena and a REAL factor to be attended to in future scenarios. It will have a shitload more relevance than how educated or uneducated one happens to be. The rise of the death-cult worshipers depends on love of country above all other mouthings.

  133. anti soak July 31, 2012 at 11:09 am #

    Catherine Fitts talks of her concern for 2 or 3 or 4 billion poor farmers and villagers.
    As the corporations buy up the land and those people are forced to cities in India, China, elsewhere, there is little or no work in the factories that have robots and mechanization.

  134. muddmike July 31, 2012 at 12:21 pm #

    Paul Craig Roberts is turning commie!

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  135. muddmike July 31, 2012 at 12:21 pm #

    Paul Craig Roberts is becoming a Commie!

  136. muddmike July 31, 2012 at 12:22 pm #

    Paul Craig Roberts is turning Commie!
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/07/31/escape-from-economics/
    “As Lenin and others predicted, industrial capitalism has turned into finance capitalism. Finance capitalism does not finance or create new real investments such as manufacturing facilities. Instead, finance capitalism functions as a rentier. It leverages debt and extracts interest payments (and today taxpayer bailouts for its over-leveraged gambles). Finance capitalism flourishes by converting more and more of society’s resources into payments to itself.”

  137. muddmike July 31, 2012 at 12:32 pm #

    Sorry about the repeat posts, while trying to copy the text it kept automatically posting what I had typed.

  138. Vlad Krandz July 31, 2012 at 12:35 pm #

    Exagerate? How could I exagerate a complete cultural disaster perpetrated by the Cultural Marxists? And you “in the middle” folks let it happen. Always pooh poohing the Warners as Doomsters, Cassandras, and Exaggerators.
    Prog, in good times, moderation is called for. Extremism is extreme. In extreme times, extremism is called for. Extremism is the moderate or correct action and moderation is extremism or inappropriate action. I’m playing with the dual connotations of words here but I assume you follow. For those that don’t: if you are teaching someone to drive, if they go a little wrong you tell them to adjust a little. If they go over the line into oncoming traffic, you grab the wheel.
    We are in the latter situation. That you don’t see that shows a bad case of normalacy bias.

  139. Vlad Krandz July 31, 2012 at 12:38 pm #

    What you talkin bout Lil Mule? Are you saying that I am Mr Kunstler? Only in the sense that Lovecraft meant when he said, “I am Providence”.

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  140. Kyooshtik July 31, 2012 at 12:42 pm #

    “I read, with the joy that I usually reserve for recurrent migraines, that Precedent Obama will establish an Office of African-American Education, thus furthering the racial Balkanization of the country, providing makework jobs for useless bureaucrats and, predictably, accomplishing nothing.” – E quoting Fred on Everything
    ===============
    This is the sort of thing that confirms, once again, what I have said numerous times, that the government should have NOTHING to do with education. I swear, it’s friggin maddening.

  141. Vlad Krandz July 31, 2012 at 12:45 pm #

    Fred agrees with me shit for brains. Blacks are being put on a pedestal and given special rights. That their grades were a joke has been long known. But now there’s going to be disciplinary norming. Blacks can’t be disciplined more than Whites. Their behavior is already atrocious so what will the effect of this be? Their behavior will get worse, driving the last White Students and Teachers out. This “legislation” (he’s just doing it like everything else) will be the death knell of public education – so I support it.

  142. Vlad Krandz July 31, 2012 at 1:00 pm #

    Everything in America is done to please Blacks.
    Never has a country worked so hard to placate a minority with so little success.
    We can give Black Schools endless amounts of money but we can’t make them read and do the work.
    Now Prog these are extreme statements. Did I say them or did Fred? Go back and check.
    Ok? Can we go on now? Fred seems undecided on the IQ question – although he obviously has thought about it. He says that Blacks used to do better and could again. I agee, but with a caveat: those that used to do better were largely a small minority. The rest were siphoned into the working force after grade school. Having alot of these guy sitting in high school is a joke. It just turns high schools into little prisons.
    People with low IQ’s could do a bit better in school but they aren’t motivated. Books bore low IQ people. Why force them? The ones that can be taught to read a bi should be of course, but beyond that it’s a waste of time. Huge numbers of Whites are in the same boat.

  143. Vlad Krandz July 31, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

    In old New England before public schools, the literacy rate was in the mid to high 90’s percentile. Some of this was genetic and some cultural. How could it be otherwise? High IQ people create cultures that value such things. Iceland is the same: a culture comprised of high level Nordics and Celts.
    In other words, going back to private would not create the same conditions as old New England or Iceland. We don’t have the same high genetics anymore. It should still be done but it will be very rough sailing indeed.

  144. newworld July 31, 2012 at 1:15 pm #

    We call it BRA standing for Black Run America in fact this is a huge misnomer because face it blacks cannot run very much of anything (even Obama’s admin is basically jewish men telling that cipher what to say).
    Personally I say give blacks everything but white genetics, it is all a joke anyway. If you want to see the movie treatement of BRA watch the Brando/Kilmer remake of “Island of Dr. Moreu.”

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  145. newworld July 31, 2012 at 1:20 pm #

    As for our friend JHK moaning about the economic catastrophe, that is piddle compared to another disaster that is coming down the tunnel straight towards him.
    That is the end of the “Guilt Economy” and it will be horrible when whites no longer feel guilty about whatever we are supposed to feel guilty about, which has allowed the crazies like the militant blacks and queers to act like thugs, never mind the Israelie crazies.
    I make know predictions on how it will trend after guilt “AG”, but I hazard to guess it will be to most people’s displeasure.

  146. newworld July 31, 2012 at 1:32 pm #

    A gold coin for an edit button. JHK always says our financial economy is doomed, but what he misses is that our political economy is past doom and the money swindlers are playing catch up.
    Our political economy depends on PC censorship for its sad life. If you want the sad proof then go to Daily Kos, where basically college educated white people go to tell lies and kowtow to dogma.
    Without “white guilt” and PC to guard over it, it is game over, its Yugoslavian States of America.

  147. asoka.. July 31, 2012 at 1:39 pm #

    the government should have NOTHING to do with education.
    I assume this means you are calling for the immediate closure of military bases engaged in educational efforts in the form of “basic training,” defense department schools for language education such as the DLIFLC, DoD aircraft mechanics education, the Army’s airborne school for paratroopers, the Merchant Marine Academy, the Army Senior NCO Academy, the Community College of the Air Force Baccalaureate Degree Program for Enlisted Personnel, the US Marine Corps Enlisted Commissioning Education Program, the USMC Officer Candidate School, the Marine Corps Field Medical Service School, the US Navy Special Warfare Preparatory School, the United States Military Service Academies, etc.
    I could list THOUSANDS of similar educational institutions sponsored by the government, and you are saying the government should have “NOTHING to do with education”? [your screaming capitalization]
    I never thought I’d see the day when Q. calls for the dismantling of the United States military services, but today is the day.

  148. Jam47 July 31, 2012 at 1:45 pm #

    Anti Soak
    The “genetic differences within” versus the “genetic differences between” is a topic I don’t know much about. But here’s my commonsense take on the matter.
    Take two Swedes and compare them to each other, anatomically and physiologically. One has a predisposition to developing an anyeurism, the other not. One is tall, the other not. One has a low red-blood-cell count, the other not. One has a deep curve to his aorta, the other not. The list of these differences would be very long. Let’s say they’re greater than the list of the similarities.
    Now, theoretically, you should be able to find a Nigerian who has anatomical and physiological arrangements that overlap in a majority of instances with those of ONE of the Swedes. You would then have found a Swede who has more in common, genetically, with a Nigerian than he has with his same-race compatriot. This is because the number of genes determining one’s anatomy and physiology are far greater than those determining one’s race. Racial markers are few.
    There HAS to be more genetic difference within races than between races. It could not be otherwise. We’re all Homo Sapiens.

  149. newworld July 31, 2012 at 1:46 pm #

    I agree, let the empire lapse, free the captive nations, start anew.

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  150. Kyooshtik July 31, 2012 at 1:57 pm #

    I disagree with you Helen.
    Q is very wise in the ways of finance, and can be relied upon for honest, ethical advice concerning money. – SJMom to Helen Bilgewater
    ================
    Thanks for the kind words Mom.
    I confess, I become annoyed when people claim I have nothing relevant to say about anything except grammar and spelling. Too (also, as well) I am annoyed by the idea that grammar, spelling, punctuation, and usage are NOT relevant so long as the communication is deemed “informal.” I consider written communication with strangers – where one is trying to inform or convince – to be formal. I consider a note left on the kitchen counter for my wife – that reads “Out for walk, back around 3:30” – to be informal. Even here, being annal as I am, I will write that note with good penmanship.
    The “informal” claim is the excuse of the lazy.

  151. Jam47 July 31, 2012 at 2:08 pm #

    A slip, Asoka, is not the same as an habitual mistake. I add comments to this blog to divert myself and to provoke a response.

  152. Jam47 July 31, 2012 at 2:22 pm #

    ANNAL? I looked it up in the dictionary but couldn’t find it.

  153. Kyooshtik July 31, 2012 at 2:52 pm #

    It’s obvious you should just claim victory in the grammar battle – who would still want to tangle with you on the subject.
    ===========
    Buck, there IS no grammar battle. I am always glad to learn new things. The few times I have corrected Asoka (e.g. the jibe vs jive usage issue) it was mainly to bust balls just for fun. When I correct Anti Soak, though, it is due to a crying need.

  154. muddmike July 31, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    annal – the recorded events of one year
    You need a better dictionary. Usually used as the plural annals as in “Annals of oncology”.
    I don’t think this is what Q meant though, but I’m not a mind reader.

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  155. muddmike July 31, 2012 at 2:58 pm #

    From OED
    1. † ?annal, adj. 1595
    …Annual, yearly….
    2. † ?annal, v. View full entry 1606
    …trans. and intr. To compose annals, record events in annals, chronicle….

  156. Kyooshtik July 31, 2012 at 3:07 pm #

    ANNAL? I looked it up in the dictionary but couldn’t find it.
    ===========
    The word DOES exist (see below) but obviously is not the anus-related word I was going for. Because the word exists, I was not warned by spell check.
    annal – definition from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/
    the recorded events of one year

  157. asoka.. July 31, 2012 at 3:09 pm #

    Point taken, jam47.
    I add comments to this blog to divert myself and to provoke a response.
    This blog is lots of fun, isn’t it?
    So much Sturm und Drang presented in so many different and humorous ways {THIS IS CRUNCH TIME!} {COLLAPSE IS NEAR!} {THE PEAK OIL SKY IS FALLING!} {THE LAWS OF PHYSICS ARE UNFORGIVING!} etc. … and all of it is wonderfully presented week after week, year after year, decade after decade, through an endless supply of JHK metaphors (though even he does recycle metaphors).
    Adapting to energy contraction is great fun!
    Still, when I came here I decided I was going to present a different viewpoint, and disprove the CFN central thesis, but only for 12 years.
    It has been seven years and the data show the world is no where near being in a state of collapse; there are no FEMA camps filled with dissenters (a 2007 prediction), no $200 a barrel oil (a 2006 prediction), guns have not been confiscated (a 2008 prediction), the trucking industry continues, U6 unemployment has actually gone down in the last two years, manufacturing is coming back from China, etc. Good news abounds.
    Only five more years of reading the fanatic and fantastic, pessimistic, misogynist, misanthropic, homophobic, Hobbesian, and racist tripe of CFN true believers and doom porn purveyors, and then I will stop countering it with my “dreck” (credit to E.)
    Meanwhile, this blog is a “really big shew” (as Ed Sullivan used to say) with a marvelous cast of characters and I fully intend to enjoy every moment and every breath during the next five years, Insha’Allah.

  158. asoka.. July 31, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

    Q., you and I have different standards, and they are self-imposed. We refuse to be lazy, even in informal communication. We care about clarity and concision.
    What I am saying to you is that in some settings, such as this blog, it is not nice to demand the same from others.
    Give some slack. Do not correct errors. Be large. Contain multitudes.

  159. asoka.. July 31, 2012 at 3:33 pm #

    About 600 million dispensable souls and useless eaters
    Do you believe in “souls”? Have you ever been to India? Do you believe Indians are “dispensable”?
    What makes Indians any different, or less useful, than you? I presume you enjoy eating, but what “use” are you?
    Your larger point about a blackout for millions being a “big deal” is correct. And I believe you commented as much when the lights went out in Massachusetts.
    TAT TVAM ASI.

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  160. Kyooshtik July 31, 2012 at 3:40 pm #

    It’s obvious you should just claim victory in the grammar battle – who would still want to tangle with you on the subject.
    ===========
    IMHO the above should read as follows:
    It’s obvious you should just claim victory in the grammar battle. Who would still want to tangle with you on the subject?
    It seems you have incorrectly assumed that because “rhetorical” questions (like the above) require no answer they also don’t require a question mark? Au contraire.

  161. Kyooshtik July 31, 2012 at 3:45 pm #

    Too Peckerwood.
    ==========
    To which comment were you replying? How do you define “Peckerwood?” Hick? I’ve never heard the word before.

  162. hmuller July 31, 2012 at 3:53 pm #

    Despite what JHK says, I think Gerald Celente is a lot of fun to read or hear, the snider the better.

  163. asoka.. July 31, 2012 at 3:53 pm #

    It’s obvious you should just claim victory in the grammar battle […]
    Q., there’s no “rhetorical question” there. It is not a question at all. It is a statement of fact.
    Buck Stud’s use of a dash is appropriate. In informal writing, em dashes may replace commas, semicolons, colons, and parentheses to indicate added emphasis, an interruption, or an abrupt change of thought.
    Once again your lack of knowledge of basic grammar, punctuation, and sentence construction is painfully apparent, as if English is not your first language. It makes me doubt you ever attended St. Josephs.
    Having won almost every battle, I claim victory in the ongoing grammar war.
    To paraphrase William Lloyd Garrison:
    With reasonable men, I will reason; with humane men I will plead; but to grammar tyrants I will give no quarter.

  164. Kyooshtik July 31, 2012 at 4:20 pm #

    What I am saying to you is that in some settings, such as this blog, it is not nice to demand the same from others.
    ============
    Nice schmice! Fuck “others” and their fragile little psyches ;-o)
    I’ve found that being rude and demeaning is an effective teaching method, especially since I can remain anonymous and there is no danger of having my lights punched out.

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  165. Jam47 July 31, 2012 at 4:26 pm #

    Being “annal,” whatever it is, is probably a whole lot better than being “anal.” Have you actually read Freud on the matter?
    Going by memory, the word that comes to me is “annals,” with an “s.” As in the works of Tacitus.

  166. asoka.. July 31, 2012 at 4:42 pm #

    Fuck “others” and their fragile little psyches ;-o)
    Smilies are not punctuation. :steam:
    Once again, Q., you demonstrate a lack of the most basic rules of grammar. You have violated a basic rule of end punctuation. There are only three ways to end a sentence: with a period (.), a question mark (?), or an exclamation point (!).
    We may use an exclamation point at the end of a sentence to express strong emotion, as you are by starting your sentence with “Fuck.”
    But you MUST end the sentence before you place the smiley! It is a simple rule of thumb: Punctuate, then smiley.
    Q., I am also calling bullshit on your claim to be OCD. No one who truly is OCD would permit that flagrant misuse of a smiley as end punctuation. 🙂
    Never, never, never use a smiley AS punctuation.

  167. asoka.. July 31, 2012 at 4:47 pm #

    Being “annal,” whatever it is, is probably a whole lot better than being “anal.”
    ================
    Yes, there are many posters, like the Chinese spammer, for whom it would be a whole lot better if they went annal, with one post a year.

  168. anti soak July 31, 2012 at 4:50 pm #

    I corrected you about something far more important
    [eastern cults and my non affiliation with]
    and you ignored me.

  169. anti soak July 31, 2012 at 4:54 pm #

    Thanks for the confusion.
    I dont know [or know of] any Blacks that like Classical Music.
    I know that many Asians do like and play Classical Music.
    This Music I refer to was created by Whites in Europe.

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  170. asoka.. July 31, 2012 at 5:06 pm #

    anti soak, Hinduism is an eastern “cult” and CFN is a “cult” … in the original positive meaning of the word. I corrected you on this before, and you ignored me. No worries. I will correct you again.
    The word cult comes from the French culte, and is rooted in the Latin cultus, which means “care” and “adoration.” That idea comes from the Latin cultus – the past participle of colere, which means “to cultivate,” as in permaculture.
    Cult:
    great devotion to a person (JHK), idea (peak oil), object (CFN blog), movement (new urbanism), or work, as a film (End of Suburbia) or book (The Long Emergency); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary (Too Much Magic) or intellectual fad (collapsology).
    Cultivating new ideas is good. Cultivation of food is good. Preserving Black culture (or any other color) is good. Cults are good … because they facilitate all of the above.

  171. asoka.. July 31, 2012 at 5:12 pm #

    I dont know [or know of] any Blacks that like Classical Music.
    Not only do Blacks like classical music; Blacks compose classical music.
    http://www.rebf.org/ssl.html
    anti soak, you were kidding, right? Get out a little, away from the computer screen.

  172. Crazy Horse July 31, 2012 at 6:42 pm #

    JK,
    PLEASE hire someone to update your blog software so comments follow the original post instead of landing at the bottom 50 posts later. That way you can continue to have an open forum and allow people to easily ignore drivel by racist Nazis.
    If you are following this, check out this scholarly analysis how how we might arrive at your World Made by Hand.
    Trade-Off Financial System Supply-Chain Cross-Contagion:a study in global systemic collapse.
    David Korowicz http://www.feasta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Trade-Off1.pdf

  173. ozone July 31, 2012 at 7:39 pm #

    Hmmm, good idea. Allowing [small “n”] nazis to spin off into their own totenkopf, racially superior utopia would be a refreshing change of format, but I don’t think they’d go. (They’re here to be an annoyance and embarrassment, not to convince anyone of anything.)
    In any case, thanks for the link to that treatise by Korowicz. D. Orlov refers to it exclusively in this post; links to it and warns of its’ pessimistic and well-researched outlook.
    http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-joy-of-national-default.html#more
    (This is sort of a severe contraction/distillation to simply hit on its’ import and general direction. D.O. gets it across that contraction/collapse has an exponentially accelerating timeline as each system dependent on others dissolves. The dangers of overcomplexity and vanishing trust become alarmingly apparent. It’s the loooooong emergency that follows the crumbling/collapse that is the pertinent focus, not the blessed, hoped-for long decline to allow for a gradual “adjustment”.)

  174. Jam47 July 31, 2012 at 7:50 pm #

    Your post reminded me of an event in military history. When the arquebus first appeared on the battlefield, soldiers who still relied on the sword and the pike considered the arquebus users cowards.

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  175. Rock Trueblood July 31, 2012 at 8:39 pm #

    It’s 8:30 Tuesday night. Jim’s conversation with readers on Shindig is 30 minutes away.
    I signed up for the event and received confirmation for the event. That email from yesterday told me I would receive another email today with my password for tonight’s event.
    At this time, I have yet to receive my password.
    Are any of you experiencing the same problem?

  176. Rock Trueblood July 31, 2012 at 9:07 pm #

    Just got an email at 8:50 linking me back to the page where the even is supposed to take place with Jim. I did not get a password. And when you go to the page supplied by the Shindig email, it’s just a static shot of Jim’s new book “Too Much Magic”.
    I hear or see nothing from Jim.

  177. Rock Trueblood July 31, 2012 at 9:09 pm #

    Oh well, as the subtitle of Jim’s book says, WISHFUL THINKING, TECHNOLOGY, AND THE FATE OF THE NATION.
    Jim, maybe you can use reddit next time which we know works?
    Shindig is not working on my end.

  178. Kyooshtik July 31, 2012 at 9:10 pm #

    I corrected you about something far more important
    [eastern cults and my non affiliation with]
    and you ignored me.
    ==============
    You have a short memory. I didn’t ignore you. I made a snide remark about your knowing a lot about eastern cults without actually being affiliated in the same way I know a lot about pool without ever having picked up a stick. It was your job to understand the sarcasm.

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  180. Bukko Canukko July 31, 2012 at 9:17 pm #

    No Shindiggery where I am either, just a shot of some woody-looking library.

  181. progress4spam July 31, 2012 at 9:59 pm #

    Regarding “Fred” #523 –
    “The rise of the death-cult worshipers depends on love of country above all other mouthings.”
    -ozone-
    ‘Zone, it’s amazing how you and I can read the exact same #523, and come to totally different conclusions.
    Here’s the most relevant extract from this particular Fred opus, from my own point of view:
    “I can’t see how there’s anything special about a country. It’s just a big herd full of little herds that hate each other and want to swindle each other and pick everybody’s pockets and burgle their houses if they can’t actually steal them. I mean, the blacks hate the whites and beat them lopsided so they can take pictures, and half the whites hate blacks but don’t dare say so, and want to run Mieesicans out of the country, and the Messicans hate the blacks and the whites that want to run them back to Messico, and everybody hates Moslems, whatever one of those is. Maybe that’s a country. It looks more like a bar fight waiting to happen.”
    -Fred Reed-
    Not for the first time, do I wish Fred had a comments section. Because he’s on-target with this paragraph, and I’d like to tell him so.
    And O3, we don’t need the “death-cult” to sustain the US military – not any more. That’s just window dressing, and easily dispensed with.
    I’ve come to the conclusion that our drone-flying, immigrant-powered and volunteer-manned military will be the LAST thing that our formerly great country dispenses with.
    And the ONLY way that our military MIGHT be used to “meddle” in internal civilian affairs – will be to hold the country together, by force if necessary.
    On the inside of the country, we’ll be having Fred’s “bar fight.” But the illusion of US unity and US diversity – must, MUST; and WILL BE – preserved for international PR consumption – to the bitter end.

  182. progress4spam July 31, 2012 at 10:06 pm #

    “- Entry deadline is July 15th, 2007”
    -useless-
    Way to stay current and relevant, ERREN1H7.
    jackass.

  183. progress4spam July 31, 2012 at 10:15 pm #

    “…if you are teaching someone to drive, if they go a little wrong you tell them to adjust a little. If they go over the line into oncoming traffic, you grab the wheel.”
    -vlad-
    Nice metaphor, Vlad.
    Except in the present situation, your student driver is going to fight you for control and drive all of us to our deaths.
    I just wish you’d take some of the sharp edges off, Vlad. That’s all.
    You will still have the vitriolic counter-engagement of the purely Politically Correct, (dale, dee jones, others) regardless.
    And it is fascinating to watch some of them bend logic into a pretzel, and demand an end to free speech – just because they don’t like some of the ideas you present.
    Fascinating.

  184. progress4spam July 31, 2012 at 10:28 pm #

    Vote Jill Stein – OK.
    Help elect Romnmey – OK?
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/31/illegals-released-feds-19-murders-142-sex-crimes/
    Can things get any worse?
    What a silly question.

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  185. muddmike July 31, 2012 at 10:49 pm #

    Another Willie Horton attack, by the totally unbiased Washington (Moonie) Times.
    They only deported 400,000, and missed a few.
    Also, the dates after from 2008 to 2011. I wonder who was in charge between Jan 1, 2008 and Jan 20, 2009. You are correct! Dick Cheney was in charge then!
    How many of those criminals were released then. Of course Obama on day one had nothing better to worry about than deporting illegal aliens. There were no other things with which he had to deal.
    Of course he should have dealt with the Repukes who had met on the 20th to plan to destroy everything he tried to do, no matter what it did to the country.
    I still wish he had used the Patriot Act and sent several hundred Repukes to Guantanamo, including 4 evil SCOTUS justices. Maybe render top few naked to the streets of Baghdad so the Iraqis could personally thank them.
    I shudder! Cheney naked!

  186. hiirrdupyq July 31, 2012 at 10:59 pm #

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  187. Puzzler July 31, 2012 at 11:15 pm #

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  188. hfoordhpbm July 31, 2012 at 11:16 pm #

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    Now that you have made the decision to homeschool your children, the next major question is which of the many teaching strategies do you use? This is a critical question because the success or failure of your homeschooling will depend in large part on the materials you select for your children’s education. One approach to be considered is homeschool unit studies.
    What are homeschool unit studies? Simply stated, homeschool unit studies allow teachers of homeschooling to build lessons around their child’s interests. How exactly does this work?
    Suppose your child expresses an interest in President Obama. You could formulate an arts class by having the student draw pictures of the president, perhaps even making a caricature of the president in which his ears are emphasized. A government class could then be taught pointing out the powers of the president and how they represent the concept of checks and balances in our constitutional framework in relation to the judiciary and the legislative branches of government.
    But you need not stop there. The president’s handling of the economy could be used as a teaching unit of economics or simple lessons in financial responsibility and the need for a balance between spending and saving and credit. You could also build a geography lesson around the president’s heritage by tracing his travels from Hawaii to Indonesia and back to Hawaii and then to Los Angeles and on to Chicago and finally Washington, DC.
    The president’s budget could be the focus of a class in arithmetic, while one of his books could be used for reading classes. English classes could be designed around some of the president’s speeches, including having the student to watch the delivery and listen to the enunciation, tone, and pitch of the president’s delivery.
    In addition, a biology class could be structured around all the news surrounding the president’s selection of a dog for his girls. As can be gathered from these examples, the lessons opened up by homeschool unit studies are endless, limited only by the imagination and creativity of the teacher.

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  190. Kyooshtik July 31, 2012 at 11:44 pm #

    Fred’s latest essay is nothing less than brilliant.
    http://www.fredoneverything.net/Race_Hucksters.shtml
    When is some national political figure going to have the balls to admit that government has no business being involved in public education? Fred makes it exquisitely clear what a friggin travesty we are suffering at the hands of government.

  191. Kyooshtik July 31, 2012 at 11:51 pm #

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  192. daytrip August 1, 2012 at 12:00 am #

    Too much Magic…too much government… Maybe not enough government, when it comes to regulating certain capitalist schemes run amok. Not that I’m not a capitalist. One thing I respect is the complicated nature of a lot of these issues: immigration, environmentalism, oil and gas exploration and extraction. Ya gotta eat. I originally typed, ya gotta heat, which is also true, Freudian slip or whatever. I remember years ago JHK, I think, talking about when peak oil hits, we wouldn’t worry about greenhouse gases. If I’m freezing my ass off and I have coal to burn and a stove that can burn it, guess what? Multiply that sentiment by a few billion. I hate to be pessimistic, but… Whoever linked to the Bill McKibben article recently in Rolling Stone, what an eye opener. “They” have a number for carbon emissions that will keep us at a 2 degree Celsius temperature rise, stating that we’re at .8 degrees increase now, with another .8 that will happen regardless. We have proven reserves of an amount over 5 times the number that we need to stop at. Think we’ll use it? (us being Earthlings). I’m guessing that we’ll use it all and then some. Hold onto your hats and false teeth folks…

  193. daytrip August 1, 2012 at 12:03 am #

    I’d also put forth Rolling Stone’s political portion of their website as good doom porn. Oh yeah.

  194. Vlad Krandz August 1, 2012 at 12:19 am #

    Here’s a good supplement to Fred that explains the WHY of White Madness. Basicly it come down to competitive altruism – a kind of potlach for Whites. Google that and you’ll get another great article on the same subject. Other races just don’t do this and unless we stop, we’re history.
    James Edwards is a fellow Southerner with a popular rado show called the Political Cesspool.
    http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/strategy-for-white-advocacy/

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  195. Vlad Krandz August 1, 2012 at 12:22 am #

    All thinking should be outlawed just so you get to stay in your comfort zone.

  196. jreymufgq August 1, 2012 at 12:39 am #

    Homeschool Unit Studies – What Are They

    Now that you have made the decision to homeschool your children, the next major question is which of the many teaching strategies do you use? This is a critical question because the success or failure of your homeschooling will depend in large part on the materials you select for your children’s education. One approach to be considered is homeschool unit studies.
    What are homeschool unit studies? Simply stated, homeschool unit studies allow teachers of homeschooling to build lessons around their child’s interests. How exactly does this work?
    Suppose your child expresses an interest in President Obama. You could formulate an arts class by having the student draw pictures of the president, perhaps even making a caricature of the president in which his ears are emphasized. A government class could then be taught pointing out the powers of the president and how they represent the concept of checks and balances in our constitutional framework in relation to the judiciary and the legislative branches of government.
    But you need not stop there. The president’s handling of the economy could be used as a teaching unit of economics or simple lessons in financial responsibility and the need for a balance between spending and saving and credit. You could also build a geography lesson around the president’s heritage by tracing his travels from Hawaii to Indonesia and back to Hawaii and then to Los Angeles and on to Chicago and finally Washington, DC.
    The president’s budget could be the focus of a class in arithmetic, while one of his books could be used for reading classes. English classes could be designed around some of the president’s speeches, including having the student to watch the delivery and listen to the enunciation, tone, and pitch of the president’s delivery.
    In addition, a biology class could be structured around all the news surrounding the president’s selection of a dog for his girls. As can be gathered from these examples, the lessons opened up by homeschool unit studies are endless, limited only by the imagination and creativity of the teacher.

  197. Buck Stud August 1, 2012 at 12:41 am #

    Fred’s latest essay is nothing less than brilliant.

    I read Fred’s latest essay and then went back to the archives and read “Mexican IQ”; a certain sentence then caught my eye:

    In saying all of this, I am not suggesting that Mexico has achievement the intellectual development of Finland.

    Do they sell Preparation H in Mexico?

  198. asoka.. August 1, 2012 at 12:44 am #

    government has no business being involved in public education
    So now you’ve changed your position: it’s public education the government should not be involved in?
    Military education is publicly funded education and the public does join the military and the Constitution does not authorize military adventurism (which is not the same as “national defense”).
    Do you want government involved in public funding of military education? Do you want taxpayer money to support the education of soldiers, sailors, and marines?

  199. asoka.. August 1, 2012 at 1:14 am #

    I am not suggesting that Mexico has achievement the intellectual development of Finland.
    ========================
    First of all, if Fred wrote the above he is guilty of butchering the English language.
    Second, Mexico does have the intellectual achievement of Finland.
    The Mayan Civilization (300 – 900 ACE) had a writing system 2,000 years before the Finnish did. (And the first Finnish literature, in 1450, was full of grammatical errors.)
    Mayan architects built large, elaborate palaces and pyramid shaped temples, had irrigation systems, calendar systems, etc. when Finnish peoples were still illiterate hunter-gatherers and fishermen, you know, people who never quite got the hang of building palaces, pyramids, irrigation systems, calendar systems, or writing systems. I’m not even going to mention astronomy.
    Mexico has a long intellectual tradition, much longer than Finland does.
    I’m betting Fred does not read Spanish. I’m betting Fred is completely ignorant of Mexico’s intellectual and literary contributions: in the original Spanish, or in translation.
    Fred is just an ignorant racist who makes grand generalizations to tickle the fancy of other racists. Next.

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  200. megbank08 August 1, 2012 at 1:58 am #

    Originally previewed last month, we now get a closer look into the upcoming “Powder Blue” Air Jordan 9 retro. Although not exactly the same shade, the kicks still offer up a clean palette as the upper consists of a white leather with university blue and black adding a strong touch of contrast. These are set to drop on May 29th fred perry, 2010 and will be available through Jordan Brand accounts, including Primitive.

  201. megbank08 August 1, 2012 at 1:59 am #

    Undercover looks towards London-based eyewear duo Cutler and Gross for a new pair of collaborative sunglasses. The shades will follow Undercover’s Neoboy theme, utilizing the classic box cut frame with a dark color scheme fred perry polo, accompanying the collection quite nicely. A limited production run will soon be available within both Hong Kong and Japan at select Undercover flagship locations.

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  202. megbank08 August 1, 2012 at 2:01 am #

    British labels CASH CA and Tricker’s link up on a new footwear set for the Spring 2012 season. Produced by the iconic Tricker’s shoe company in England, each design features the utmost of quality and construction, paired with either a solid grey or navy/brown colorway on the stylish wingtip. The collaboration between CASH CA and Tricker’s can be purchased now at select retailers, including Heather Grey Wall. Retail is set at ¥70 polo la martina,350 JPY (approximately $859 USD).

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  203. rocco August 1, 2012 at 2:38 am #

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  204. gugbank47 August 1, 2012 at 3:06 am #

    Adapted from Hunter S. Thompson’s novel, The Rum Diary tells the story of an American journalist named Paul Kemp who moves to San Juan, Puerto Rico to work for a failing newspaper. Once there, Kemp indulges in the communal life of alcohol and drugs while becoming obsessed with Chenault, the fiancée of a businessman involved in shady property development deals. The film will hit theaters October 28 and stars Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, Aaron Eckhart and Richard Jenkins.

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  205. qxfpoay60 August 1, 2012 at 3:25 am #

    Stussy links up with Eager Beaver Lager on a special capsule collection for their Toronto and Vancouver chapter stores. Featured in this set with be a skate deck and tee sporting Stussy’s take on the Eager Beaver Lager label. A special release is in place at both stores today officiel fred perry, starting at 3 p.m. Further information on the launch can be found here.

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  207. qxfpoay60 August 1, 2012 at 3:28 am #

    Living Proof Magazine share with us their sixth issue as the art magazine covers some interesting personalities this time around. Among the highlights are an interview with Ryan McGinness, Andrew Jeffrey Write, photographer Angela Boatwright and KCDC skateshop owner Amy Gunther among others. The magazine is available through select channels including Supreme, Reed Space officiel fred perry, Alife, Concepts, OHWOW, Subliminal Projects and St. Alfred for free.

  208. Puzzler August 1, 2012 at 3:32 am #

    Yes, Q the “us” didn’t make it from my brain to my fingers — probably caused by scrolling fatigue syndrome from gliding past Asoka the Queen of Cut & Paste and the racist tripe.

  209. Vlad Krandz August 1, 2012 at 3:38 am #

    Thank you Mr Ignorance. You can always be relied on to be wrong about anything Conservative.

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  213. ebgbank22 August 1, 2012 at 6:12 am #

    Aside from the wide array of talented designers Paris Fashion Week showcased this week, the top story remains Kanye West’s collaboration with prestigious fashion house Louis Vuitton. Never shy to boast of his accomplishments and aspirations, Mr. West gets down with Dazed Digital on a brief interview talking about various subjects including his outlook as a designer, obsession with fashion, and favorite blogs among other subjects. As always, thanks for the love Kanye.

    Kanye West on his inspiration for the sneakers
    “They’ve got a sci-fi influence with this flap up at the back. It came from a scene in ‘Dune’ where there was this jacket with a huge collar. Also Japanese pop art.”

    …on his obsession with fashion
    “I don’t know. I just love clothes. I picked out my own clothes when I first went to kindergarten and there’s no turning back since. And I’ve always been into clothes and I’ve always been into myself. And none of that’s changed since I’ve become a celebrity. It’s just allowed me to be more into myself and more into clothes!”

    …on his aspirations as a designer
    “I wanna be the type of designer that inspires people, not follow other ideas. I wanna be as innovative as Marc Jacobs has been. I wanna go from being a fashion plate to being an innovator. This collaboration is a dream come true. Everybody comes to these shows has a love of fashion, but then it’s just figuring out what’s your place in it. I’m a walking billboard but to be able to now create something from scratch is amazing.”

    …on his blog
    “It gives me the opportunity to do a lot of things. Blogs are great for everybody to express, “This is what I’m into. This is what my taste level is. This is the stuff that inspires me.” And then now instead of stuff I send through my email, I’ll send through my blog. Sometimes if I’m looking for an appartment, I’ll send stuff out and look through my own blog. It’s stuff I’m into. Like when I put the girl’s section up (“Where are you Yeezy?” section which features scantily clad girls all saying the aforementioned) It’s all different girls I’m into. I like model girls, edgy girls, fashion girls and outright porn girls too!:

    …on his favorite blogs
    “What’s really cool about my blog is I give credit to the blogs so you can click and go to the blog. So like Selectism fred perry t shirt, High Snobiety, Hypebeast, Bossip, Perez.”

    The complete interview can be read here.

  214. ebgbank22 August 1, 2012 at 6:15 am #

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    Having shown you a glimpse into Rock Candy’s 2009 spring/summer Sterling Silver collection, here’s a look at the Hong Kong brand’s marquee Gold & Diamond Collection. With a strong background in diamonds and jewelry, the six-man group of multi-talented individuals unveils a luxurious offering of the highest quality. Despite the proliferation of skulls over various mediums of jewelry, Rock Candy felt that existing designs could benefit from better quality and more intricate interpretations. The Aye Yorick Skull Ring joins other favorites such as the Rock Solid Headphone Pendant (including articulating ear cups), Da’ Luigi Guitar Pick Dog Tag, Hear No Evil Slim Spiked Earring, Hater Slim Spiked Ring and Hate Slim Spiked Bracelet. Much like their Sterling Silver collection, many of the pieces benefit from much diversity over materials including glossy and matte versions of black gold and yellow gold with different diamond color combinations. Prices range from $780 USD (Hater Slim Spiked Ring) to $6,830 USD (white gold/white diamond Rock Solid Headphone Pendant).

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  215. Eleuthero August 1, 2012 at 6:38 am #

    Well, can we now officially announce that this blog is dead? The Chinese spammers in the last two days account for around 95% of total line space. It turns out that even Asoka’s messages are getting drowned by the spammers. Imagine Asoka getting drowned by the spammers. Who woulda thunk it?
    Note to JHK … Dear Jim, I don’t even know if you visit this blog but either run it correctly or shut it down. The spammers now force one to skip over many, many hundreds of lines to get to little bitty posts of ours. Thanks for the blog, Jim, but if you don’t make it usable by valid users, it’s a Pyrrhic Victory for all of its participants which, as you know, is actually a LOSS.
    I’m noticing that even the good posters are reducing their activity because they log in and see the spam shit and just give up which is just what I’ve done right now. Jim, your gift to us is only a real gift if it is really usable. And the spammers’ names are easy to pick out because their usernames look they were spit out by a random number generator.
    Jim, either make the blog usable again or put it, and us, out of our misery. Every time I’m absent for a couple of weeks and return, there’s more spam, missing good users, and a greatly reduced level of posting by existing users.
    I can hardly believe that you’ve actually seen this blog lately because surely you can see it is now well nigh unusable. My observation is that at the current rate of decay, within a month even the obsessive posters will give up. It’s an embarrassment.
    E.

  216. dxfpoxy48 August 1, 2012 at 7:26 am #

    British-based leather brand Jas M.B. have rolled out images for their Spring/Summer 2012 lookbook which showcases similar looks and accessories we’ve come to expect from the brand. Known for their beautiful structure and practicality, key pieces include the Hoof Large Stripe Cold Canvas, EP Rucksack Signal, Blinkers Rucksack, and Folios in both tan and soft stone. The latest bags and accessories will be available online in the coming weeks.

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  217. dxfpoxy48 August 1, 2012 at 7:27 am #

    A comprehensive feature has just been published on honeyee involving the two creative minds behind the recently seen A BATHING APE x Stussy holiday collection. An in-depth interview picks the brain of both NIGO and Stussy’s creative director, Paul Mittleman who both share a profound mutual respect for one another. Additionally, the influence of Harajuku is prominently mentioned as the catalyst for creativity and innovation. The excerpts can be seen below.

    So how did the collaboration come about?

    N: We did a small collaboration earlier this year, but it was Paul who suggested we do something on a bigger scale.

    P: Stussy and BAPE have never really done anything together in the past. So now, having the opportunity to do something with a brand we had never worked with, it seemed a shame not to make it real opportunity and to waste it by just doing another tee shirt. If it was going to work out – communicating long distance – we needed to be able to trust each other. After the first meeting it moved forward with Nigo, Sk8THG and the team without too much back and forth, it was just easy.

    N: It also felt easy to collaborate on this from my side too. Stussy was here first and I grew up wearing it. Of course it was an influence and in a way an aspiration for me – to create a brand like that. I saw a photo of Paul as a member of the “International Stussy Tribe” before I met him. I really wanted one of those varsity jackets (laughs).

    P: I can’t remember exactly when I first met Nigo, but it was early on, when he started the company. But there was a certain point where we came back to Japan and you’re like: “Wow -this BAPE thing’s serious!”. Within a short space of time they did an insane job of creating an identity, clothing and branding. In the story of streetwear: Stussy may have started it but BAPE took it and redefined it for the next generation.

    Do you think that the story of Harajuku has value to an international audience?

    P: I have been influenced by the culture that came out of Harajuku and I think that global culture has been influenced too. but there really aren’t so many people overseas who understand the origin of that culture. Things have changed polos, but I think that there was something unique about the culture here, which I find interesting. There was a real community between different groups that can’t be found in New York or London. Also, the brands that emerged from Harajuku were based in American culture, but they weren’t just following the formula. Not to say that it’s a misunderstanding of American culture – I recognize my own culture again in a new way in Harajuku’s culture.

    N: Talking about networks – Stussy always had a world-wide network: Hiroshi (Fujiwara) in Tokyo, Michael (Kopelman) in London. I was in awe of that. By the way the theme for my outfit is “HF ’89″ (laughs).

    P: I first came to Tokyo in 1990. Hiroshi was definitely wearing an MA-1. I remember that he gave me a GOODENOUGH T-shirt. There is a real network in different places around the world. It’s great to know that there are friends in any of the world’s cities. The “International Stussy Tribe” network is so big now. I think the distribution list for the IST varsity would be way too long (laughs). But in the early 90′s it was impossible to get BAPE except by coming to Tokyo and it was hard to find out about the brand. That was one thing that always made coming to Tokyo special.

    The items in the collaboration are mostly BAPE styles from the 90′s?

    N: Well, yes – Paul basically presented a plan of designs, and I made a few comments on that and moved it forward. It does feel like we arrived at a sort of 90′s feel somehow. Maybe younger people will be able to see this as something fresh, for people of my generation there is a hint of nostalgia there.

    P: In the 90′s BAPE’s introduction of the proprietary camo’s was very new and influential. Stussy was important to the development of T-shirts, but BAPE took the sweatshirt to the next level. The use of graphics and print on sweatshirts have become a standard. It isn’t easy for one brand to create an item that becomes a standard in the product line-ups of other brands, it was a game changer.

    N: Thank you. Overall I think this is a good collection. The fact of these two brands doing something together is something that has a certain impact throughout the world. I think that’s interesting. It is was to understand – in a positive way. I think that’s what Paul was thinking to do this time.

  218. progress4spam August 1, 2012 at 8:10 am #

    “The spammers now force one to skip over many, many hundreds of lines to get to little bitty posts of ours. Thanks for the blog, Jim….”
    -E-
    The thought flitted through my head, E – that JHK posting his reading list this week, was a way to begin to say goodbye to his weekly posts, or to this comments section, or something.
    Call it a premonition, on my part.
    I guess we’ll see, in the coming weeks.
    I’ll miss some of you folks.

  219. dfgbank94 August 1, 2012 at 8:11 am #

    Directed by Loïc Prigent and Fabien Constant, French music and fashion label Kistune have just posted this video featuring music from their latest mixtape: Kitsuné Maison 9 “Petit Bateau edition or the Cotton issue”. As you’d expect ralph lauren italia, the clothes featured in the video are also Kitsune products and are taken from their upcoming Autumn/Winter collection for this year, which is named “Kitsuné Ivy League”. As the name would suggest, the apparel draws inspiration from the elite universities of the US. Look out for the entire collection, which is set to release April 26.

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  220. progress4spam August 1, 2012 at 8:24 am #

    It’s not my intention to trivialize a tragic event-
    But there are parallels between the theater shooter in Colorado, and our so-called “Chinese spammer.”
    Both act alone.
    Both are deranged.
    Both are selfish.
    Neither cares how his actions impact others.
    There’s probably more – but I’m out of time.
    =======================
    and asoka..has never read Fred.
    That’s obvious.

  221. ozone August 1, 2012 at 9:02 am #

    Attention, Conservatives!
    Here’s a missive from important and powerful, self-identified “Conservatives”. Are they your homeys?
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32021.htm

  222. ozone August 1, 2012 at 9:39 am #

    Attention, Arch-Conservatives!
    Here’s a snapshot of a guy whose views little laddie lederhosen apes and cleaves to. (Supposedly, you understand.) So closely are the salient points reflected, that one might (quite understandably) assume the lad was a follower of little leo. Unless he’s got a problem with JOOz, perhaps.
    http://byrdeye.blogspot.com/2008/12/leo-strauss-neocon-godfather.html
    Totalitarians? Authoritarians? Corn-pone fascists? Disaffected Trotsky-ites? Former disgruntled Liberals?
    Not fun in any form.
    The lederhosen-clad lad would be what Herr Strauss might consider a “useful idiot”; a tool for joyfully keeping the untermenchen in line, or dead, whichever comes first.
    Who said “the military” (US Armed Forces) would retain its’ present form in the intervening years after a gummint breakdown? Think outside the box for a bit and consider what will rise in its’ place once the assured job-slot of Soldier for The Empire evaporates.
    Of course Fred’s tribal bar-fight will ensue; we’ve been programmed to go in that direction and focus on “the other” in order that our true enemies retain power and control. Fred makes a large assumption that things will continue in their present forms. They will not.
    And thus will “the people”, awash in each others’ blood, holler for stability and order. The Strauss-ians and their useful idiots will provide.
    THIS is the death-cult of which I speak, and the death-cult of religion (‘Murkin-style) is just another ancillary means of herding the sheep.
    I’m a little surprised more of youse don’t entertain these possibilities (that dare not speak their names) with some of the readings that you’ve been exposed to and historical evidence. It’s a wonderment…

  223. k-dog August 1, 2012 at 10:11 am #

    “The last twelve months have been the hottest since record keeping began in 1895, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The severe drought and record high temperatures may finally be putting climate denial to bed”
    The PostCarbonInstitute

    Serious consequences for the corn harvest and the price of cheese doodles. Get familiar with issue:
    King Corn
    “King Corn is a fun and crusading journey into the digestive tract of our fast food nation where one ultra-industrial, pesticide-laden, heavily-subsidized commodity dominates the food pyramid from top to bottom.”
    Join Ian and Curtis as they bumble across a most excellent adventure and learn how screwed we are.

  224. k-dog August 1, 2012 at 10:15 am #

    Damn:
    “Strauss believed that societies should be hierarchical – divided between an elite who should lead, and the masses who should follow.”
    A true M.F.P.O.S. if ever there was one!!!
    I would chew on his bones, slowly while he was still alive.

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  225. k-dog August 1, 2012 at 10:21 am #

    True MF.P.O.S. ???

  226. k-dog August 1, 2012 at 10:35 am #

    In “Homage to Catalonia” Orwell describes how poorly armed righteous struggles of the people can be hijacked by sponsors who supply needed money and weapons but who in the end preempt political struggles to their own ends.
    In this case KBR contracts.

  227. k-dog August 1, 2012 at 10:49 am #

    You said:
    Fred is just an ignorant racist who makes grand generalizations to tickle the fancy of other racists.
    But in his last article he said:

    On purely selfish grounds, it is very much in the interest of whites for blacks to prosper. If all blacks shot into the middle class tomorrow, we could tax them instead of paying for welfare. We could fire three-quarters of most urban police departments. We could live in the cities. We could take the wrong exit into Newark and expect to come out alive.

    Racists don’t say such things, even in jest.

  228. ozone August 1, 2012 at 10:55 am #

    KD,
    Got it in one! ;o)
    Meanwhile the ever-vigilant press is busily stuffing the Orwellian alarm-bells with rags and taking dictation from MF.P’s.O.S. regarding the glorious struggle of the “Syrian people” to free themselves from tyranny. [cough, choke]

  229. ozone August 1, 2012 at 10:58 am #

    I share your impressions on this.
    (Gotta git, take reasonable care.)

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  230. asoka.. August 1, 2012 at 11:25 am #

    K-dog, it is racist because it perpetuates the stereotype of Blacks on welfare. Of the 46 million people living in poverty in America in 2010, the U.S. census revealed that 31 million were white. Ten million were black. Of the 49 million people without health insurance coverage, 37 million were white; 8 million were African American. Latinos of every race and Asian Americans represented the remaining largest ethnic groups.

  231. daytrip August 1, 2012 at 11:54 am #

    I’m no Fred expert, but from his latest posts that I’ve read, he seems racist in the same way that Bill Cosby is racist.

  232. anti soak August 1, 2012 at 12:00 pm #

    So if there are 30M Black adults, 1 in 3 is on welfare.
    Asokas fuzzy math / pretzel logic are so predictable.

  233. anti soak August 1, 2012 at 12:02 pm #

    Turn it around:
    Asoka is just a lying, ignorant fool who makes grand generalizations to tickle the fancy of other
    unicorn people.
    He praises Islam and open borders.
    He praises Osho [Mr. 100 Rolls Royce s].

  234. Vlad Krandz August 1, 2012 at 12:47 pm #

    A Monster named Charlize Therion.
    http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/charlize-theron-white-guilt-and-white-genocide/

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  235. daytrip August 1, 2012 at 1:03 pm #

    This shit’s great: “When more people are paying attention to Khloe Kardashian’s vagina than to the great issues of whether we can carry on our civilization in a dangerous time, I’d say that is a pretty misguided, distracted culture. Not that I have anything against Khloe Kardashian’s vagina.” JHK
    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/james-howard-kunstler-on-why-technology-wont-save-us-20120712#ixzz22JYXNDwk

  236. Vlad Krandz August 1, 2012 at 1:04 pm #

    Your amazement at the mental contortions of Zone and Dee are surprising. Haven’t you realized tha that Liberalism is a mental disease? That is is just the precedent to Communism – always changing, always pushing the envelope to the Left? Or as Commander Rockwell put it, Communism’s pimping little sister. And that Liberalism or home grown Communism is psychologically, a religion or its aherents? And that Blacks are sacred cows at the very least in this religion? For some cultists, they are the actual gods…

  237. Vlad Krandz August 1, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

    Bill Cosby hates Whites but I don’t think Fred hates Whites – or Blacks either for that matter.

  238. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 1:07 pm #

    “So if there are 30M Black adults, 1 in 3 is on welfare.”
    Way to go anti! Pull a number out of your ass to make a point. The numbers on welfare are total, not just adults. There are 39 million blacks in the US as of 2010.
    Also, you ignore the fact that maybe a few of those blacks are on welfare because racists won’t hire them.
    Too many people seem to think that a single number can describe a very complex situation.

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  239. daytrip August 1, 2012 at 1:21 pm #

    I don’t know either way and don’t really care too much. My point was that both guys were blunt about pretty easily observed facts, and they get yelled at by people, probably for striking a nerve and stating, hey, there’s an elephant in the room. Like Kunstler’s Kardashian quote. Great shit. Excuse my French, and I know that’s not French.

  240. Vlad Krandz August 1, 2012 at 1:31 pm #

    Rainbow Colored Unicorn People – with soft fuzzy horns!

  241. Vlad Krandz August 1, 2012 at 1:39 pm #

    Support American Vaulues – eat at Chick Fil A today. Not just the right to practice Christianity either – but also basic First Ammendment rights that Rahm and Tom Menino would pander away.

  242. Vlad Krandz August 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm #

    Yeah all over America you see Asian kids carrying heavy book bags and Black kids carrying nothing at all.
    White kids are in the middle somewhere.

  243. Buck Stud August 1, 2012 at 1:48 pm #

    We’ve all see the type… the obnoxious urban punk ready to throw down over the slightest provocation.
    I got a kick out of the below link:
    http://likethebookshop.tumblr.com/post/28164604850/oh-my-god-i-just-witnessed-the-single-greatest-moment

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  244. ak August 1, 2012 at 1:49 pm #

    Beyond 7 Billion:
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/population/
    Nicely-done maps, photos.
    (with a real-time counter, too)

  245. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 1:56 pm #

    ak,
    Great link.
    This might make population easier to grasp, or at least blow your minds.
    On average, every second there are three births and two deaths. Awesome , and scary!

  246. anti soak August 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm #

    If my facts are wrong, how so?
    If you dont like em, tough.

  247. anti soak August 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm #

    More Zionism, read decadence for the west, Multi cult for the west, Whites only in Zion! No Gay marriages in Zion.
    ‘Rahm Emmanuel runs a city with a warlike murder rate, but his most important task is to insure that no businessman who is not in favor of gay marriage is permitted to do business is Chicago.
    Rahm Emmanuel served in the Israel Defense Forces in 1991 during the first Gulf War. In Israel there are no civil marriages and every legal Jewish marriage is performed by a rabbi. It is illegal for a Jew to marry a non-Jew in Israel. [OO site]

  248. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 2:27 pm #

    anti,
    I gave you the correct numbers that I looked up and didn’t just pull out of my ass. The total number of blacks in the US as of the 2010 census was 39 million. This included both adults and children. Also, the number of people on welfare includes both adults and children.
    You just pulled the “number” of black adults out of your ass. Making up numbers is not a good method of making an argument.

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  249. anti soak August 1, 2012 at 2:42 pm #

    The LA times is saying the worlds population increases by 70M a year.
    IF there are 100 million deaths a year, thats 170M new people a year.
    Since LA Times is owned by part of the ‘1%’, they dont mention in last weeks Cover Story Series that
    the only reason US population increases [double since 65, or close to doubling] is due to Immigration.

  250. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 2:48 pm #

    I have to correct my numbers. It is 4 births and 2 deaths per second.
    Yearly 131 million births and 55 million deaths
    http://www.wholesomewords.org/missions/greatc.html#birdatrate

  251. anti soak August 1, 2012 at 2:50 pm #

    ‘Vaulues’. Are you Eastern European?

  252. anti soak August 1, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    I could not find the exact number of Black adults in the USA. I guestimated.
    In searching, I found this alarming stat:
    90% of Black Children on Food Stamps | Change.org News
    news.change.org/stories/90-of-black-children-on-food-stamps
    Nov 5, 2009 – Although the percentage is less for white children [!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]
    (yes I would say so]

  253. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 2:58 pm #

    anti,
    Unfortunately, the title of the article is deceptive.
    In the article it says:
    ” researchers found that 90 percent of black children will be clients of the national Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP/Food Stamps) at least once by the time they turn 20.”

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  254. anti soak August 1, 2012 at 3:00 pm #

    Rich Libs never cease to amaze me, with their carbon footprints!
    An Inconvenient Truth – Will Miami Beach be Underwater One Day …
    forums.miamibeach411.com/…/10967-inconvenient-truth-will-miami…
    Jan 16, 2012 – I watched the documentary “An Inconvenient Truth” about Al Gore educating … As someone who would like to buy a home on Miami Beach one day, how … If this did happen it would probably be gradual but I do have to tell you, … And get flood insurance, or a condo about 4 floors up with a boat launch.
    Why did Al Gore buy a 9 million dollar beach front property? he …
    answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid…
    6 answers – May 17, 2010
    Top answer: Because Gore does not believe in Global Warming. Gore, is making a fortune off of scaring the bejesus out of gullible liberals, who believe his phony

  255. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 3:04 pm #

    Oops, I hit the submit too soon.
    90 % being on SNAP AT ONE TIME during 20 years is much different than 90% being on food stamps.
    I have not been able to see the original study yet, but I am concerned that there numbers may be affected by children going on and off food stamps. thus a single child may be counted several times.
    Here is a link to the Washington University site that also shows that being in a single parent family also is a big problem. (Surprise, surprise, surprise)
    http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/15000.aspx

  256. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 3:06 pm #

    anti,
    Gore bought a beachfront home because he knows it will be 50 to 100 years before Miami would be underwater.
    He is no Spring chicken, so he’ll be long dead before then.

  257. k-dog August 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm #

    And if the people at Google don’t know the difference between energy and technology – well, then who does?
    Great Link 🙂

  258. asoka.. August 1, 2012 at 4:03 pm #

    anti soak, it’s not my math. The numbers come from the 2010 USA census.
    And the largest number of people on welfare are white people. If Fred was really interested in people getting off welfare and becoming taxpayers, he would NOT single out one racial group.
    Fred is a racist because he is only talking about Blacks getting off welfare.
    I’m not talking about percentages of any racial group because they vary; I’m just pointing out the largest number of welfare recipients are white. Percentages vary, but the largest number (not percentage) belongs to whites.

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  259. daytrip August 1, 2012 at 4:07 pm #

    Right, so you should like Reagan’s Supply Side economic theory, raising all boats…laugh.

  260. daytrip August 1, 2012 at 4:09 pm #

    raising sea levels, maybe….

  261. turkle August 1, 2012 at 4:38 pm #

    Why does this comments section always seem to devolve into a contest to see who can be the worst bigot? We get it, okay. Let’s move on, shall we?

  262. asoka.. August 1, 2012 at 4:43 pm #

    Yes, Reagan at least had the good sense to have the rich pay a larger share in taxes than Bush or Obama. Reagan was not about a race to the bottom, which is what a “no taxes, no spending” philosophy is: “let’s see how fast we can trash this country”
    Romney won’t release his tax returns because for ten consecutive years Romney had millions in income and paid zero income tax by hiding his assets offshore in the Cayman Islands and in Swiss bank accounts.
    Romney is unpatriotic.
    Obama is currently leading Romney by about 100 electoral votes. Something tells me people do not want to go back to Bush’s economic policies and that is what Romney would give us: more Bush policies.

  263. Kyooshtik August 1, 2012 at 4:43 pm #

    I read Fred’s latest essay and then went back to the archives and read “Mexican IQ”; a certain sentence then caught my eye:
    In saying all of this, I am not suggesting that Mexico has achievement the intellectual development of Finland.
    Do they sell Preparation H in Mexico? – Buck to me
    ==============
    Buck, I can be quite dense at times. In all seriousness, are you calling into question my opinion that Fred’s latest essay “is nothing less than brilliant” because he failed to proof read a prior essay?
    And also, twice in less than 24 hours you’ve used a Preparation H metaphor that has sailed right over my head. I’m smart enough to know that something derogatory was intended but you’ll need to explain it if you want me to feel insulted.

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  264. anti soak August 1, 2012 at 5:23 pm #

    ‘In saying all of this, I am not suggesting that Mexico has achievement the intellectual development of Finland.’
    Mexico had beautiful Monuments, an agrarian culture, etcetc. Then the Spaniards showed up.
    So its had the same plight as the Irish have had, and many other cultures.
    Far as Breathy Bucky goes, maybe he can call you
    ‘jism breath’ or similar. Cheers.

  265. Kyooshtik August 1, 2012 at 5:31 pm #

    So now you’ve changed your position: it’s public education the government should not be involved in?
    ================
    This is a perfect example of your most hateful trait: dodging an issue. Fred has said some harsh things about the academic failure of blacks despite enormous sums spent and effort expended primarily by whites and you have failed to address the points Fred made. Unlike Prog, I believe you DID read the essay but have a real problem dealing with it.
    And last week you didn’t bother responding at all to my question about why 95% was an appropriate marginal tax on income over $250K. I asked ‘why not 100%?’ or even 105%. I can only conclude this must be something very hard to explain.

  266. Kyooshtik August 1, 2012 at 5:58 pm #

    Mexico had beautiful Monuments, an agrarian culture, etcetc. Then the Spaniards showed up.
    So its had the same plight as the Irish have had, and many other cultures.
    ==============
    I have no idea what the fuck your point is.
    And WHICH Irish plight are you talking about? Potato famine, rampant alcoholism, the recent financial crisis?
    And how does any of this relate to Buck’s comment or my reply to it?
    Anti, I hereby declare you the winner of CFN’s Most Incomprehensible Commenter Award.

  267. Buck Stud August 1, 2012 at 6:34 pm #

    Ah Q, I would never insult you mate. You the man; the “Roger Sterling” of CFN:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NASspMMnjxo

  268. mistified August 1, 2012 at 6:39 pm #

    “Why does this comments section always seem to devolve into a contest to see who can be the worst bigot? ”
    It doesn’t. But it does seem to be a contest of who can be the biggest MORON and you are usually leading the conga line.

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  269. mistified August 1, 2012 at 6:41 pm #

    “Romney won’t release his tax returns because for ten consecutive years Romney had millions in income and paid zero income tax by hiding his assets offshore in the Cayman Islands and in Swiss bank accounts.”
    So, he won’t release them yet you know this to be true? What a fucking idiot.

  270. rippedthunder August 1, 2012 at 7:28 pm #

    Short story.
    I went to the local post office today and there were three guys with an umbrella on the tree belt(public land) they had signs and brochures with stuff like End the Fed and reinstate the Glass–Steagall Act, they also had pictures of Obama,Tim Geithner, and Ben Bernanke in various jail cell pictures. I never saw them before so I started shooting the shit with them. I even mentioned JHK’s new book “Too Much Magic” which I am reading now. They wrote the title down and said they would get it. I was only there for a few minutes, 10-15 maybe. People were yelling at them and telling them that the cops would be there any minute. It turns out the guys had informed the cops and had a copy of the US Constitution on hand. Right to peaceably gather and all the good stuff from two centuries ago. Short story long, the common man hasn’t a clue as to what is going on.

  271. Widespreadpanic7 August 1, 2012 at 7:33 pm #

    Hey Oz I didn’t know about Leo Strauss and his influence on the neo-cons. I suppose there are a lot of things I don’t know about.
    Just read ‘Fred’ for the first time. Deep. Very Deep and incisive.
    –WSP7

  272. Widespreadpanic7 August 1, 2012 at 7:40 pm #

    Was up to Lime Rock Race track watching the Sports Cars run. Had a Pit Pass so got to talk to the owners, drivers and mechanics. Fuel is special racing blend, cost $11 per gallon. Some of Paul Newmans cars were there. Nobody seemed to care about much except how the cars were running and how fast they would go. Some nice cars, too, Lotus Europas, Stutz Bearcats, Vintage Coopers, Triumphs, MGs, etc., from all over the country.
    –WSP7

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  276. xport August 1, 2012 at 8:25 pm #

    So much sound and fury, so little time. It seems like whom ever makes a post must be shot down. Target practice for the coming hunt. Time has come today. Remember the C. Brothers? The big squeeze is on, with a huge push toward the election. Look for things to get drastic by October. November will be insane.

  277. Kyooshtik August 1, 2012 at 8:55 pm #

    Just read ‘Fred’ for the first time. Deep. Very Deep and incisive.
    ============
    What I love about Fred, beside the fact I agree with virtually everything he says, is the way he starts in on a theme, then lays on the sarcasm and hyperbole to drive home his point.
    Oh, God, how I pray (figuratively speaking) that this Glassman chick Fred mentions (from the NAACP) reads this essay. Not that it’ll do an iota of good…but just for the slap in the face that it is.
    I thought of mentioning a few favorite lines but nearly every line is a gem and I’d have to copy in the whole essay. OK, just a few:
    . …the wringing of teeth and the gnashing of hands.
    . You could make a wrong turn into Newark and have a hope of coming out alive.
    . I don’t argue that it’s because my Anglo-Saxon ancestors were mistreated by the Norman French under Henry II.

  278. asoka.. August 1, 2012 at 9:01 pm #

    I’m sorry, Q. The answer is obvious. A marginal tax rate of 95% has been used and it works: remember the 1950s? I’m just being practical, conservative, and traditional in going back to what has been proven to work.

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  279. Jam47 August 1, 2012 at 9:02 pm #

    Coopers, Triumphs, MGs. Those were the days. By the time the sixties came along, though, Triumphs and MGs were old hat. Too heavy, too unwieldy. That’s how I remember it. If you wanted to buy British, the car to have was the Cooper S or the Lotus Cortina. And if you had a bit more money, the Lotus Elan.
    I remember reading in “Autocar” very many years ago about a series of races at Brands Hatch (I think) between the Coopers and the Lotus Cortinas. The Coopers could barely keep up with the Cortinas on the straights but would beat them around the corners.

  280. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 9:18 pm #

    asoka,
    I had to check on your numbers, and you are close. From what I could find in 1952-3 the top marginal tax rate was 92% for income over $400,000. If we correct the $400,000 for inflation, in today’s dollars that would be about $3.5 million.
    What happened with that top rate was that CEOs were not paid more than $400,000, which was sufficient to live a VERY comfortable life.
    For private business owners, if their business was very profitable, they simply kept the profits in the companies by buying new equipment or hiring more workers.
    Some crazies even resorted to paying their workers a little better rather than only getting to keep $8 of $100. Heaven forbid that workers be paid more because they are more productive. That kind of thinking went out in 1980 when we learned that greed was good!

  281. xport August 1, 2012 at 9:31 pm #

    What? Pay a skilled carpenter more than $10 an hour, and get kicked out of the party? No way.
    The contraction is on until every worker is broken.

  282. Kyooshtik August 1, 2012 at 9:41 pm #

    I’m sorry, Q. The answer is obvious. A marginal tax rate of 95% has been used and it works: remember the 1950s?
    ===========
    Here is what I wrote on 7/28/12 at 3:50PM:
    “I realize Asoka is in full stir-the-shit mode with his comments last night and today but let me address two of his themes anyway.
    1. Whether someone (or a couple, or a family) can get by on $250,000 in Manhattan is totally irrelevant. No two people are alike in what constitutes self actualization. Why should anyone’s ambition be restrained by an arbitrary number? How is Asoka harmed by his neighbor’s million dollar annual salary?
    2. Asoka says we should tax income over $250K at 95% like in the Eisenhower years. He calls this shared sacrifice, where one third of the population pays all of the tax and two thirds pay nothing. First, assuming the Wiki article I read on the history of tax rates in the US is correct, the highest marginal rate was 92% (not 95%) on incomes over $200K (not $250K) back in the mid ’50s. $200K then would be at least a million now, by the way. But why quibble? Those details are beside the point. I have to ask Asoka, what is the point of stopping at 95%? Why not 100%? For that matter, why not 105%? By what rationale is a 95% marginal tax rate on persons of a certain income considered “fair?”
    For the record I oppose all taxes (corporate or personal) that are based on INCOME. I favor a flat rate system of tax on consumption.”
    Close but no cigar.
    So, what you are saying is that you really didn’t give the issue (the % and the $ amt at which the high marginal rate kicks in), you just said what the hell, it worked then, it’ll work now. Well, I challenge you to explain why, if 95% is good, 100% or 105% is not better.

  283. Kyooshtik August 1, 2012 at 9:47 pm #

    Correction:
    didn’t give the issue (the % and the $ amt at which the high marginal rate kicks in) any thought,

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  284. asoka.. August 1, 2012 at 9:49 pm #

    We should not “correct” the numbers for inflation. We should lower the number to $250,000 because we need to pay off a very large national debt.

  285. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 9:55 pm #

    I finally found what is probably the definitive table of tax rates. In 1952 the lowest tax rate for TAXABLE INCOME was 22.2% for the first $2,000.
    Here is the table to look at:
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=51526121
    If you plug these numbers into a spreadsheet you can find the actual tax rates.
    Of course this table DOES NOT say anything about deductions. Remember all tax rates are for TAXABLE INCOME. Unless you are a fool you probably need to make at least 30% more in total income than what is taxable.

  286. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 10:06 pm #

    asoka,
    I just plugged the 1953 tax rates into a spreadsheet and found out that if keep those rates with no inflation correction that a single person with a taxable income of $18,000 would pay $6936 in income tax.
    I think that at least some adjustment for inflation is in order. Also, as large as the number is it is not insurmountable.

  287. qxfpoay60 August 1, 2012 at 10:10 pm #

    Fashion model Quinta Witzel becomes the latest subject of Jake Davis‘s continued Test Shots series. Executed in the same fashion as previous installments, the clip slowly uncovers Quinta’s personalized style r4 officiel, focused on a good ole pair of classic Levi’s blue jeans, white shirt and canvas sneakers. Enjoy!

  288. qxfpoay60 August 1, 2012 at 10:11 pm #

    Following a hugely popular opening in Omotesando, the Rugby Ralph Lauren line has increased in popularity within the Japanese market. With a successful response following an initial camo release, Rugby Ralph Lauren presents a new collection of bags following that same motif Supercard DSonei Mini card, with an added skull & cross bone monogram theme. Priced between ¥13,650 JPY and ¥15,750 JPY (approximately $175 USD and $202 USD), all three can now be found through Ralph Lauren stores in Japan.

    Source: honeyee

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  289. xport August 1, 2012 at 10:14 pm #

    If a person has managed to be born into wealth, or found a way to work themselves into wealth, they are very fortunate. Their fortune does not give them the right to become lords and make advantage over the less fortunate. Or does it? This is the crux of the biscuit.
    Slavery has been a proven asset to the slave holder and his economy, at the cost of his humanity and spiritual reward, but the legacy and estate and wealth derived from the life energy of the slave has enriched the generations of slave owners and their progeny, the reverse is so with the down trodden.
    Now we have fought a civil war to emancipate those who toil in servitude and slavery and yet this battle has not been resolved.
    The battle continues between the haves and the have not’s, the master and the servant, those who control the wealth and property and means or production versus the mass of humanity who were unfortunate enough to be born at the wrong time, and in the wrong place.
    Well, this struggle has been played out many times in the history of humanity, but this time it will be for all the marbles, as humanity approaches end game. The cards are all on the table, and the gamblers cannot pay up. The resources are all played out and the future has been trashed. What is left? The pieces may not be worth picking up.

  290. Barfy Barf August 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm #

    The chinese rent a floor at two high schools on Saturdays/Sundays, where they teach 9non-profit) chinese language to all grades, violin, art, chess, and other things that pop up. Most in attendence are chinese, some indians, and two or three whites. The white kids are skateboarding and wearing their hats backwards and pants down to their knees. I have to give the chinese credit for taking initiative and working hard, and instilling good values in their kids, and the interesting thing is that they also are flooding the Christian churches. Wow…. Americans used to be like that in the 1950s. But the God-less, socialists and liberals took over Hollywood and the news media and has brainwashed an entire nation of fools. If anyone is interested in a good book on how this was done, and free for the download, visit this site: http://www.fhu.com/brainwashing_book.html

  291. progress4spam August 1, 2012 at 10:19 pm #

    “Why does this comments section always seem to devolve into a contest to see who can be the worst bigot?” -turkle, who is sometimes guilty of his own sort of bigotry-
    Let’s consult our Miriam Webster, turk.
    BIGOT – “a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices….”
    So, you don’t believe Atheists can be bigots?
    Some of your posts belie this, IMO.
    ========================
    Besides that, turkle, JHK is convinced that US societal breakdown will have a racial component.
    Except for asoka..and a couple of other outliers, most of the posters on this site are here because we find some common ground with the thoughts, ideas, and opinions of Mr. Kunstler.
    What else do you want to talk about, anyway, Turk??

  292. Barfy Barf August 1, 2012 at 10:22 pm #

    I hope everyone here ate at Chick-fil-e today, and if not, soon. Why? Because even though this blog is lopsided towards liberalism, I hope that you at least recognize the right of a person or business to express their views, even if it offends a minority. The Chick-fil-e around these parts was backed up for a 45 minute wait for two drive through lines. One couldnt even get in the door! God bless that chicken!

  293. xport August 1, 2012 at 10:31 pm #

    Thanks for a good laugh. Eat the bird in defiance of those who eat the bird.

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  294. rippedthunder August 1, 2012 at 10:39 pm #

    Hideedo Wsp7, i read somewhere. Maybe it was here. JP-4 for the US jets costs more than 350 dollars a gallon by the time it is delivered to the middle east. I hope this is not true. We are totally messed up if it is.I can get it at the local airport for $4.75

  295. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 10:42 pm #

    Barfy,
    Take a look outside, the latest poll shows that 48% of Americans FAVOR same-sex marriage, while only 44% oppose it. That does NOT sound like a minority.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/pew-poll-shows-rising-support-for-gay-marriage/2012/07/31/gJQAJsLSNX_blog.html
    Also, if you think it OK for Christians to force their beliefs on others then you must believe that it is OK for Muslims to force Sharia law on us too.
    By the way, I am a Christian, but I don’t force others to follow my beliefs.
    By the way, in the US marriage is a legal agreement, NOT a religious one. Just listen to the persons officiating. At the end of the ceremony they say “By the power vested in me BY THE LAWS of the STATE of …”

  296. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 10:57 pm #

    barfy,
    Also, if someone else getting married offends you so much, then I hope you are as sensitive to people with other beliefs.
    Do you eat ham and cheese sandwiches, then you offend both the Jews and Muslims. Do you eat beef, then you offend all Hindus.
    If you eat meet on Fridays during lent you offen Catholics, and so on.
    Many things we do violate someones beliefs.
    I do not see how two women getting married would harm your marriage. Heterosexual marriages are already bad enough with 50% ending in divorce, and many battered spouses. All of this was before any same sex marriages existed.

  297. muddmike August 1, 2012 at 10:57 pm #

    offen = offend

  298. progress4spam August 1, 2012 at 11:18 pm #

    So, yeah, turkle and you other proud and, oh so, non-bigoted folks –
    Let’s talk about GAY MARRIAGE.
    Because huge immense hordes of rioting and unmarried gays are certain to be part of The Long Emergency – to which this website claims a nodding acquaintance. sarcasm on/off
    ================
    Dan Cathy is a private business owner.
    His company is not publicly traded.
    HIs company follows all US law related to BGLT persons. Chick-fil-a does NOT discriminate with respect to food service or employment.
    Mr. Cathy expressed his opinion in a interview with a Christian publication – that gay marriage is not consistent with his OWN faith tradition –
    And the BGLT community is now coming after him with a politically correct hangman’s noose.
    And public officials (Rham Emanuel, et al) are using their PUBLICALLY funded pulpits to attack Dan Cathy for his private opinion.
    And this is considered normal?
    And legal??
    What a mess this country has become.
    Wait until the power goes off for a day or two and the food trucks stop running. Jeeze.

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  299. progress4spam August 1, 2012 at 11:20 pm #

    PUBLICLY
    I was on a roll.

  300. Kyooshtik August 1, 2012 at 11:27 pm #

    We should not “correct” the numbers for inflation. We should lower the number to $250,000 because we need to pay off a very large national debt.
    ==============
    We should shrink expenditures by govt by 75%. We should do away with all income based taxes. We should establish a flat rate tax of 10% on all consumption with no exceptions. We need to do this to pay off a very large national debt.

  301. wxfpolc47 August 1, 2012 at 11:31 pm #

    PUMA and BEAMS develop a special collaborative lineup to celebrate their 35th anniversary, dubbed the “DISC LTWD.” The legendary shoe takes new form in this historic collaboration with the addition of high-spec technologies and overall lightweight designs. Highlights include a seamless upper for comfort and a BioRide insole that’s made from the same material as the DISC FAAS 500 shoe. In addition to the innovative materials, BEAMS added a 35th anniversary logo on the insole and BEAMS’ recognizable orange coloring and branding on the outsoles. Look for the collection to hit BEAMS stores on October 8 for ¥16 SanDisk microSDHC TransFlash 16GB Memory,800 JPY (approximately $220 USD).

    Photography: Simon van Wijk/Hypebeast

  302. wxfpolc47 August 1, 2012 at 11:33 pm #

    Band of Outsiders rolls out the latest visuals of its advertising campaign for Spring 2012 featuring legendary American artist Ed Ruscha. Effectively achieving that desired vintage feel via the series of Polaroid images, the campaign features a host of the brand’s coveted garbs in numerous pastel and khaki colors. Shot outside Ruscha’s studio in Culver City, California, the latest pieces from the collection can now be purchased through the Band of Outsiders online store.

    Wierd “collaboration”.  Most if not all of their customers do not know who Ed Ruscha is.  Creative people need to be smart r4 sdhc 3ds, not just creative.  

    Huagh. Agree. Jacket in slide 2 though? Yes please.

    Picture 4, the shirt looks awful.

    is that supposed to be a bad thing?

    band of outsiders are stuck in the same look they have had for 3 years

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  303. sxfpoyv77 August 1, 2012 at 11:56 pm #

    UNDERCOVER have released this leather riders jacket that incorporates technical facets with the stylings of the classic silhouette, available in beige and black colorways. Featuring numerous zipper pockets as well as belt cinches encircling the trim. The cross-stitched back panels R4 SDHC Upgrade Card 8GB, collar and luxurious brown lining tie this piece together perfectly. Available now at UNDERCOVER stockists.

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  304. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 12:32 am #

    The prohibition on marijuana – a relatively benign drug when used responsibly by adults, and a teddy bear compared to alcohol and tobacco – has done an impressive job of racking up racially-biased (asoka should like this) arrests; throwing people (any color) in jail; burning up police time and money; propping up a $30 billion illegal market; and enriching psychotic Mexican drug lords.
    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/pot-legalization-is-coming-20120726#ixzz22MLg6sBo

  305. ebgbank22 August 2, 2012 at 12:55 am #

    Popular accessories brand Incase and BEAMS pair up for the “BEAMS PACK,” a limited release made exclusively for the Japanese brand/retailer. The “BEAMS PACK” features two colorways in a premium backpack silhouette, accented with either a denim or canvas upper and rich leather bottom. Featuring all of the detailing you’d expect from an Incase design, and BEAMS co-lab, the bag features plenty of compartments, material highlights and traditional MacBook interior sleeve. Both options are priced at ¥13 R4 SDHC Revolution,860 JPY (Approximately $182 USD), with availability now through BEAMS online. For North American customers, the packs can now be purchased through Incase online as well.

    c’mon Mooney! get with it, BROOOOOOOOOOO

    c’mon Mooney! get with it, BROOOOOOOOOOO

    No, Incase is their own company who specializes in apple accessories.

    No, Incase is their own company who specializes in apple accessories.

    apple makes backpacks?

    apple makes backpacks?

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  306. ebgbank22 August 2, 2012 at 12:57 am #

    New from Prada comes this fast-paced short video documenting the photoshoot for their 2011 fall/winter campaign starring Tobey Maguire of Spider-Man fame. In addition to copious shots of footwear carte r4i sdhc, clothing and accessories laying around the various campaign locations, this film also shows some of the hard work that goes into the actual setting-up of the lights and photography equipment. In the age of the viral video, it appears that fashion houses like Prada are aiming to benefit more and more from documenting behind-the-scenes action during their glamorous runway shows and photoshoots in order to increase transparency between the brand and the consumer.

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  307. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 12:57 am #

    Well, what IF we taxed it.

  308. Vlad Krandz August 2, 2012 at 12:59 am #

    Exactly. We have way too much diversity. Even the relative stability of 1950’s America was a monumental achievement and dependent on keeping the Blacks down as unassimilables. Now it just ridiculous. We’re doomed.

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  309. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 1:03 am #

    My candidates for president and VP were arrested today.
    Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein and her vice presidential running mate Cheri Honkala were arrested today during a protest at the offices of mortgage company Fannie Mae on Banker’s Row in Philadelphia.
    My candidates recognize the issues and take action.

  310. Vlad Krandz August 2, 2012 at 1:06 am #

    Read the actual account of the Spanish with Cortez. They saw pillars and pyramids made out of millions of skulls. By some estimates, the Aztecs killed over a hundred thousand a year. The Maya also had the same beliefs and killed on a smaller scale. See Mel Gibson’s movie “Apocalypto”.
    I read a book of Mesoamerican religious writing once. There was a lot of talk of holding your heart up to the sun – I think they meant the same thing as Christians when they say offer your heart up to God. But then the Aztecs came as usurpers. Holding your heart up to God became tearing out someone else’s and then eating them. They were terrified when Cortez came – they thought Quetzlcoatl had come back to punish them for perverting his teachings. Perhaps they were right.

  311. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 1:08 am #

    We’re doomed.
    ================
    First sensible thing you’ve said today, assuming the ‘we’ refers to whites.

  312. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 1:15 am #

    What you are proposing has never been done and would not work. What I am proposing was implemented by Eisenhower successfully and has been proven to work. Eisenhower was the last Republican president to balance a budget.

  313. anti soak August 2, 2012 at 1:45 am #

    Asokas venom, exposed!

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  314. dxfpoxy48 August 2, 2012 at 2:11 am #

    R4 Revolution

    Offering a look into some of their most comprehensive collections to date, OriginalFake preview garments for the new season. As usual, KAWS’ signature motifs are implemented throughout, but the line is definitely more settled down than seasons past. A few key collaborations continue as well, including hook ups with Levi’s, Porter and Gallery1950.

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  315. dxfpoxy48 August 2, 2012 at 2:12 am #

    Following the success of previous collaborations sdhc card, architecture and design firm Wonderwall and OriginalFake are releasing the latest collection to celebrate Wonderwall’s 10th anniversary. Wonderwall’s is no stranger to the fashion world, as they are frequently called upon to design concept stores such as A Bathing Ape, A.P.C. and OriginalFake Aoyama. The collection includes a t-shirt and a toy.

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  316. dxfpoxy48 August 2, 2012 at 2:13 am #

    Introducing the Toyota GT-86. Originally showcased at the Tokyo Motor Show in 2009, the modern recreation of the legendary “Hachiroku” from the Japanese comic series Initial D means three things: power, handling and everyday usability. The engine, developed by Subaru, is a 2.0 liter horizontally-mounted boxer engine which outputs 197 horsepower to a classic front-engine rear wheel drive chassis. Style and function key points are not absent as well with flared wheel arches, dual chrome exhaust tips carte r4 fr, and even a race-derived rear diffuser. The GT-86 will be available in the UK next June.

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  317. ajgbank04 August 2, 2012 at 2:44 am #

    Heroes come in many shapes and sizes. Some are decked out in skintight spandex suits while others have the uncanny ability to hit home runs. Along the spectrum, there are also those that defy social injustice by sitting at the front of buses and those that do forbidden art in the face of an oppressive government. In my hometown of Hawaii, there are two figures that have grown to become rallying forces for an art form that has been marginalized by social misconceptions. They are considered heroes in my book and many others that reside on the islands. They are champions for social consciousness and youth education through art. Their names are Prime and Estria.

    To shed light on who they individually are as both educators and social change advocates, Prime is considered to be one of the most influential and prolific graffiti writers in Hawaii’s history. His active role towards enlightening the public about Polynesian culture and its diverse history has had a lasting and positive impact on Hawaii’s community. Through his educational initiative called 808 Urban, his work on both the artistic and educational fronts has created environments that advocate for progressive social change while promoting sustainability for low-income communities through self-determination, cultural awareness and leadership development. While, Estria has been painting murals since 1984. Since his inception in the art form, his work has populated hundreds of walls that dot every corner of the globe. He has been an influential leader during the Golden Age of graffiti during the ’80s and has pioneered painting techniques that are still widely used to this day. Since 1993, he has taught graffiti classes and lectured at universities on graffiti’s social and political impact. Together they are changing the world one wall at a time through the act of graffiti.

    We caught up with the artists as they painted a new mural as a prelude to the upcoming POW WOW Hawai’i art event in 2012.

    Let’s start this interview on a more lighthearted note. How did you two meet?

    Prime: We met through a mutual friend who runs the website graffiti.org. I reached out and said that I’m offering free luaus to visiting artists. She mentioned a fellow local artist who was now residing in the Bay Area by the name of Estria.

    Estria: Her name was Susan Farrell and she started the first graffiti-based website. She told me about this guy that gave free luaus to any writers that came to Hawaii. I said that I wanted a free luau! (laughs)

    E: A luau is Hawaiian for barbecue.

    P: …and beer. (laughs)

    Hawaii is considered to be one of the most isolated places on Earth. A grouping of islands smack dab in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. It’s American, but also culturally distinct due to its vast Polynesian history and melting pot of immigrant influences. Growing up in the islands creates variables that lead to a unique upbringing. Can you talk to me more about your connection to Hawaii and how it has led to your perspectives on art and life?

    E: On one side, I would say that it comes from the Japanese side of my family. In that respect, it is definitely about perfecting your skills. That insane perfectionist drive. Also, my influences come from pulling old imagery and giving them a modern take. As far as my Hawaiian side, it’s about connecting people to the land and preserving our old stories. Taking our culture into the future using this urban art form as a medium.

    P: For me, it’s growing up in poor neighborhoods and living on welfare. I spent my childhood going back and forth between living with my mother and father. My mother is Samoan and my father is Hawaiian. It’s both similar yet distinctly different cultures. A lot of my education came from storytelling. In relation to my culture’s history, I grew up with the lessons that came from the legends of Samoa and Hawaii. I’ve noticed that they are not being told as I remember them. So, I’m using the spray can as a tool for telling these stories. Prior to me starting 808 Urban, the kids always looked at the mainland of America for influences, but now they can look at their own soil and people for inspiration. From this, they will become the next educators of culture and activists in their own right.

    The word graffiti has been a source of negative stigma for generations. However in recent times, this stigma is slowly subsiding due to its acceptance on the mainstream level. What was once on walls is now populating the inner walls of galleries and the products of the masses. How do you feel about this shift in perception?

    P: One of the hard things for the old school to grasp is this evolution that is currently occurring. Inevitably, the art form has to go somewhere. It was during the ’80s that kids were running around hitting up spots and getting up illegally. I’m at a point in my life where I was involved during that period and I remember it fondly. However, at the same time, you can’t do the same thing now that you did decades ago. Mimicry can only take you so far and at some point you have to outgrow that stage. To see how the art form has progressed over time has been amazing. Nevertheless, it is also up to us from the old school to educate the young. From my perspective, a lot of these kids get their information from the internet and YouTube. The disconnect from the digital realm has caused a lack of face-to-face storytelling. As a reaction, we are now talking to these kids and telling them about the history so they can grow. Teach them to take influences from the past and take it into the future in their own way.

    E: The original meaning of the word graffiti is to scribe and etch on to a surface. I really like that old meaning of the word. I don’t like how contemporary dictionaries are now changing the definitions to be an illegal activity. Old writers from New York, like ’70s train writers, don’t like the term graffiti. They think of it as a bad word and will sometimes consider it the G-word. In my own experiences, I didn’t get support from certain writers because we had the word graffiti in the title of the Estria Battles. If we want to gain their support then we have to change and listen to that. Personally, I like the word writing better because it is essentially a letter-based art form. Not pictorial.

    In terms of the art form going mainstream, I think it is inevitable. It’s good in some ways, because the vast majority of artists that write on walls just want to be creative. They shouldn’t be stigmatized and thrown into jail for doing art. Graffiti being illegal is just a sign of our times. Writing and scribing is a primal urge. I really think that after the basic needs of eating, sleeping, shitting and shelter, leaving a mark on a surface is the next set of urges. People need to acknowledge that it will never go away. There will always be people putting words and images on walls. Whether it is illegal or not.

    When it pertains to graffiti, the gospel of police forces across America see it as an affront to public order. An open invitation to consider the urban environment theirs to do as they please. A miscreant’s form of expression that defies the fragile social systems and leads to chaos. There is a fine line between vandalism and street art, which can easily lead to it being negatively misconstrued. The two of you have been at the forefront of changing the public view on graffiti and using it to increase social consciousness on dire issues in the community. Using the art form’s unique ability to spread a message to a wide audience. It eliminates the barriers of communication and directly impacts the viewers to partake in the experience. With that being said, tell me more about the current graffiti-related projects and the messages you are pushing forward, such as “Water Writes.”

    E: “Water Writes” is a series of murals in different cities around the world that is created specifically to draw attention to critical water issues in each community. The basic issues are access to safe drinking water and who controls that water. I think that most people tend to agree that water belongs to everybody and it shouldn’t be privatized, yet there is a mad scramble amongst multinational entities to control all the water sources. It is very critical that we did a “Water Writes” mural in Hawaii, because most people don’t know that the majority of the water is held privately on the state. However, throughout Hawaii’s history and with the current government, water has always been viewed as a public trust. So, lawyers need to fight these David and Goliath cases to bring the water back to the people.

    One of the uses of water in the state is clearly written out as “preservation of Hawaiian culture.” It’s about taking care of the land and the cultural aspects that are closely tied to it. You can’t talk about Hawaiians without talking about water, because whoever controls the water controls the land. The “Water Writes” in Hawaii was a good platform to talk about the overthrow of the kingdom, the control of the land, and the preservation of the culture for the future.

    The most recent wall was done in Hawaii within the district of Kalihi. Other walls have been painted across the globe. Can you tell me the significance of these locations and its relation to the “Water Writes” project?

    E: It seems that wherever we go, there are always critical issues to discuss. Palestine was a destination that we really wanted to do. As it turns out, Israel uses water as a weapon. They’re actually slowly killing the people off by restricting the flow of water and taking control of the water sources. On top of that, Israel blew up some of the sewage treatment plants. Now there is only one sewage treatment plant that serves 1.7 million people. As a consequence, there is now raw sewage continuously polluting the coastlines of the country. People will get sick if they go out into the water. Furthermore, Palestinian boats can only go 3 kilometers out and there is a line of warships on the horizon, so they are swiftly eliminated if you pass those lines. The fishermen are forced to fish alongside the coastlines, which means that they are eating polluted fish. Additionally R4 SDHC Revolution, they don’t have a lot of water sources anymore so they have to tap into the ground water. Since they’re overusing the ground water, the sea water is coming in to replace that water source. Which means they’re drinking polluted water. A direct effect has been the emergence of the blue baby syndrome. Basically, it is caused when the mother drinks an excess of the polluted water, which then causes the babies to be born blue due to oxygen deficiency in their blood. So, to be able to use art to bring attention to these issues is critical.

    Some people have stated that we have raised the public awareness of an issue to a point that it has created a level of justice for them. In Hawaiian it is called Na’au Pono. It is a huge honor to have done that with our art.

    Tell me about the Estria Battles.

    E: With the battles, we are hoping to challenge writers to aspire to excel in the highest level of their craft, which is the production. There are many levels within the art form of graffiti. The first level is called a tag, which is a single colored name scrawled on a wall and is usually done with a marker or paint. From there, you can go over a tag with something more elaborate. The next step up is a throw up. It is usually two colors and made to speedily cover a large area, so they are usually fat and bubbly. When then move on to the piece, which is a multicolored and elaborate design of one’s name which usually takes two or more hours. Finally, the highest level is the production, which contains a combination of a piece, characters, backgrounds and an overall concept. It is usually planned out and takes a long time. The battles exist to encourage spontaneity for the production artist. We are encouraging artists to develop all these skills. Not just the letters.

    One intriguing aspect of the battles is the usage of a positive word, which strays from the common usage of one’s name. Can you tell me more about why this is done?

    E: We try to pick words that enable positivity. So, they start thinking about how they can use their art to spread a positive message. To become agents of change and the voice of the community.

    808 Urban has been a champion for the positive impact that art and graffiti has on the youth. Can you tell me more about this initiative?

    P: As part of the programming for 808 Urban, we established a junior board. Our current board is based in Waipahu, which has been deemed a low-income area in Hawaii. The board is based mostly of students and new high school graduates. They’re not necessarily artists, but they are community organizers. Their community is looked down upon and seen as a ghetto, so I have been teaching them how to secure walls and how to plan murals. They are using their knowledge to do something that will lift the image of their neighborhood and beautify it with murals. It’s great, because it’s all run by the kids. They fund raise their own money and they work with what they have.

    Some of the best stories about these murals are not about the pieces themselves, but the process. For example, we did a mural at Washington intermediate schools. The concept was to create a representation of the community and we chose a tree. The base of the tree was a Hawaiian flag. The branches that came off the tree all bore flags instead of fruit. We had the kids do all the research. They had to find the flag, draw them out and paint them on the wall. At the end of it all, the flag we painted for Vietnam was wrong. Two days after the completion of the mural, the Vietnamese community wrote a two page letter to the principal of the school saying that the flag we painted represented the communist era in Vietnam. A grand apology had to be made publicly by the principal, it was even shown on Vietnamese television. From that experience, the kids saw firsthand the ability and power of art and its impact on the community.

    We also try to stay engaged with the kids beyond mural painting. There are kids that I’ve worked with for the past four years and now they are in high school. Their parents always remark that ever since their kids took the graffiti classes, they have dramatically changed their attitudes about everything. Kids that were once introverts are now social butterflies. For the future kids, we try to keep them on task as long as possible, so we can make a direct impact. When I step away, the kids can step in and talk about their experiences and spread their knowledge to future generations.

    What does the future hold for the two of you?

    E: We want to do a series of murals on the Hawaiian musicians of the ’70s.

    P: …and the kingdom series too, that will be about the monarchy of Hawaii.

    Any last words for our readers?

    E: I like this movement we got going on here. It’s an alliance with everyone working together. I want people to see Hawaii as a center for art. A melting pot of ethnic groups and a place of rich cultural heritage that will lead to more diversity in the arts. Hawaii has a lot of pride in their artists. Did you know that American Idol stated that they will no longer allow Hawaii-based singers on the show, because the whole state supports them and it messes up their voting system?

    P: Come to Hawaii and hit us up to paint! Come and see the murals! It’s great to see a lot of different artists from all over the world come together out here, it happens with events like POW WOW Hawai’i. It’s a beautiful thing and we have luaus too.

    E: …and beer. (laughs)

    More details of the “Water Writes” project can be seen here in this interview by Mikey Inouye.

    Interview: Jasper Wong
    Photography: Aaron Yoshino

    Jasper Wong is an artist, illustrator and curator. He is a man who wears many hats and best known as an artist with a penchant for the A-Team, rainbows and laser beams. His unique clash of Asian-influenced pop culture on paper has seen Jasper exhibit in Japan, California, France, London, New York, Hong Kong, Mexico, Chicago and Australia, and he has been selected on multiple occasions by Archive magazine as one of the 200 Best Illustrators worldwide. He has also scored press in publications such as Communication Arts, Society of Illustrators, American Illustration and Taschen’s Illustration Now. Jasper has added another feather in his cap as the founder of a gallery in Hong Kong called Above Second. In its existence, both Monocle magazine and CNN have chosen it as one of the best galleries in the city. Jasper is also the creator of the annual art event POW WOW, which is an altruistic initiative to bring together artists from across the globe to partake in the beauty of the creative process. The event has received praise on an international level by the likes of Hypebeast, Booooooom, Arrested Motion, Hi-Fructose, Acclaim, Contrast and Flux. He is currently the director of Hawaii-based gallery, Loft in Space.

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  321. charliefoxtrot August 2, 2012 at 8:57 am #

    …here s a breadcrumb for any of the Nation who want to skip the trolls via “find on page”…thnx again, prog

  322. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 9:10 am #

    anti soak, what Q. is proposing (eliminate 75% of government) would not realize sufficient savings to pay off the national debt and would leave the USA defenseless. Q. dodges the issue of government in education and will not say if that means getting government out of funding of the armed forces academies and military bases used for training and education (all of them), thereby disarming the USA. Q. is being ingenuous because he doesn’t really mean what he says.
    What I am proposing (tax the rich with a 95% marginal tax rate) was implemented by Eisenhower successfully (at 92%) and has been proven to work. Eisenhower was the last Republican president to balance a budget.

  323. Barfy Barf August 2, 2012 at 10:14 am #

    Your link is to the Washington Post, a highly liberal/left newspaper. If you pull a poll from people going to eat at Chick-Fil-e, you will see different results. Polls will be taken where it benefits the views and beliefs of the polsters.
    As for Christianity, it is not compatible with homosexuality. Please, for a moment, throw out all of your beliefs, and tell me if you really think it is normal for a man to insert his organ into what amounts to a sewer system. I hate to be so graphic but what is the possible reason or potential outcome? Certainly not children.
    Yes, we all do things that can offend others. But there is a difference between eating a ham sandwich and committing an act of theft or other crime. What the problem is in America today is that the foundation of our culture, which is Christianity and was elaborated on by our Founding Fathers, is under attack from all sides. Why? Can you tell me why this is? So people are getting sick of it, as shown by the Chick-fil-e support by millions.

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  324. BeantownBill August 2, 2012 at 10:52 am #

    Why? Because God doesn’t exist – at least in the biblical sense. Christianity and other religions are thousands of years old and don’t work in the modern world. For instance, transexuals didn’t exist back then, but now there are plenty of them, due to modern medicine; although hemaphrodites probably have always existed. What does the Bible say about them?
    People are realizing Christianity is not truly relevant, and that is why it’s under attack. Sorry.

  325. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 11:06 am #

    barf,
    If you had read the article, you would have seen that the poll was done by the Pew Foundation, which is not what anyone would call liberal. It was done by professional pollsters, who just didn’t ask their friends.

  326. Barfy Barf August 2, 2012 at 11:08 am #

    The people of the modern world are so far removed from reality (God) that they see nothing other than own desires and dreams as reality. Look at the bright eyes of a baby and then the eyes of an adult — quite a difference, due to the corrupting influence of the world, modern world as you put it. Tell me, do you have to be told it is wrong to steal a car? Or do you have the wordless knowing it is wrong, and no one has to tell you it is wrong? If the former, then you are a candidate for easy brainwashing. If the latter, then I ask you where this knowing comes from? The ancients written about in the Bible listened to the wordless word of common sense, and stayed fast to it. They didn’t allow elaborate language, excuses really if you look at them closely, to make them doubt what they knew in their hearts was right.

  327. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 11:12 am #

    anti soak, what Q. is proposing…..etc
    ===========
    Asoka, go back and re-read the thread. You are confused. You have replied to Anti concerning a post of mine but Anti’s post – “Asokas venom, exposed!” – concerned your reply – “First sensible thing you’ve said today, assuming the ‘we’ refers to whites.” – to Vlad’s comment that “We’re doomed.”
    I know it sounds confusing but you’re a bright guy and with a little more effort I’m sure you’ll get it.

  328. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 11:14 am #

    barfy,
    Christianity is not under attack! Only those “Christians” who focus on other people’s “sins” and try to legislate morality.
    If you go through the whole New Testament, you will see that Jesus spoke against the Pharisee’s making laws. He was telling them that you can’t legislate morality.
    Jesus also makes it clear that judgment is God’s domain not man’s.
    Also, Jesus talked about getting the log out of your own eye before trying to remove the speck from the eye of another.
    In the Bible there are only a few vague comments about homosexuality, but a huge number of comments about greed and mistreating the poor.
    Why aren’t Christians passing laws against greed?

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  329. Barfy Barf August 2, 2012 at 11:15 am #

    and you still didn’t answer my trivia question from a previous week: Who played for the Boston Red Sox, Celtics, and Bruins?
    You may have heard it before but it’s a fun twist on things.

  330. Barfy Barf August 2, 2012 at 11:24 am #

    I agree with you — we need capitalism with a conscience. The CEO’s and wall street fat cats, the federal reserve, etc., have destroyed and stolen the wealth of our nation. There is nothing wrong with profit but we should put our country and fellow citizens first.
    As for the homosexuals and others mentioned in these threads, I don’t say hate them, but one does not have to like or agree with them. I feel that the bible’s translation of “love your enemy” was slightly wrong – “love” should be “don’t hate” your enemy. In other words, we don’t have like or be friends with those with whom we don’t agree, we don’t have to love them, but we should not hate them. I feel Jesus knew how to put this into practice, and taught others how to find it over a lifetime, but the technique has been removed from the Bible. His love was an admonishing, corrective love. Not an agreement of the person. So in this way, we can see the truth about a person, call it discernment if you like, and allow the thoughts of judgement to pass our minds. Then you will see clearly to take the speck out of the other person’s eye.

  331. Widespreadpanic7 August 2, 2012 at 11:25 am #

    No Chick-fil-es round these parts.
    Sounds like a pretty good place to buy a chicken sandwich, tho.
    I think I’ll locate the closest one a take a ride.
    Speaking of ‘Gay Marriage’ … there are a lot of smart people here … does anybody know, in all of recorded human history, about 7000 years, on any continent, in any culture, where men married men? Except of course the current degenerate filthy pop culture in the United States. In Sodom? In Gemorrah? Where else? I’d like to know.
    –WSP7

  332. Widespreadpanic7 August 2, 2012 at 11:28 am #

    Hey BarfyBarf was it Gene Connelly?
    –WSP7

  333. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 11:30 am #

    Tell me, do you have to be told it is wrong to steal a car? ……. The ancients written about in the Bible…
    ============
    …knew it was wrong to steal a car.
    A little known fact:
    In those days black folks had a thing for the Buick Roadmaster but the so called “ancients” of the Bible preferred the “Widetrack” Pontiac Bonneville.

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  334. Rhino August 2, 2012 at 11:34 am #

    Some groups can be categorized by race while others cannot. That’s my position. If you think this is sufficient reason to obviate the concept of race, that’s fine. I happen to disagree. – Jam
    Fair enough. A couple last points. Isn’t it odd that we put European caucasians and Japanese in different “races” while we put different tribes of Bushmen in the same “race” even while geneticists say that the Bushmen are more different from one another genetically than Europeans and Japanese?
    Isn’t it also odd that geneticists say that Europeans with their diversity of hair and eye color and skin tones are genetically the least diverse of all the “races”, that orientals are more diverse even though they all have black hair and brown eyes and subsaharan Africans the most diverse?
    Could it be that geneticists have got it wrong? Or is it that in this case our own eyes aren’t telling us the whole story?
    These are just points to ponder.

  335. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 11:37 am #

    Vlad,
    I communicated badly. The point I was trying to make was that we should worry about our own sins. If what another person is doing is not affecting your life adversely, then IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!
    Of course some may be harmed by seeing a happy gay couple, because then they will realize what a crappy job they are doing with their own hetero marriage(s).

  336. Barfy Barf August 2, 2012 at 11:38 am #

    He played for two out of the three. The question is a riddle of sorts actually, with a twist on the word “played.”

  337. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 11:40 am #

    Speaking of ‘Gay Marriage’ … there are a lot of smart people here … does anybody know, in all of recorded human history, about 7000 years, on any continent, in any culture, where men married men?
    ===============
    No, Widespread, I don’t think so. I think they just stuck their weenie up their boyfriend’s poop chute without benefit of matrimony.

  338. Barfy Barf August 2, 2012 at 11:41 am #

    I thought it was a beefed up Chevrolet Biscayne.

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  339. BeantownBill August 2, 2012 at 11:42 am #

    WSP7 was corrct. My answer, too, – his name was spelled differently, though – Gene Conly. I watched him play when he was on the Celtics and pitch for the Red Sox.
    He was the one who skipped to Israel with Pumpsie Green for a few days during the baseball season.

  340. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 11:45 am #

    barfy,
    It is not love or even not hate if you try to deny the right to follow their beliefs if it doesn’t hurt anyone else. Thus banning human sacrifice as a religious act is OK, but we let Native Americans use mushrooms in worship.

  341. Rhino August 2, 2012 at 11:45 am #

    If you go through the whole New Testament, you will see that Jesus spoke against the Pharisee’s making laws. He was telling them that you can’t legislate morality. – MM
    So you’re saying that Christ told them that they can’t make laws against murder and rape? Are not murder and rape moral issues? What about robbery? What if people stole your entire food supply for the winter and condemned you and your family to starvation? Did Christ say that you can’t make laws against that?
    I’m not all that familiar with the Bible so maybe you can elaborate a bit.
    In your more recent post you said “If what another person is doing is not affecting your life adversely, then IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!
    Did Christ actually say that we shouldn’t strive against injustice? Even if you’re not the one personally affected? Just curious.

  342. Barfy Barf August 2, 2012 at 11:47 am #

    I wonder what Mr. Kunstler would think of the fellow running the site linked below. He is jewish and is hammering the banking community and many others. I am not intending this as a stir it up comment, but just a question/topic. http://www.realjewnews.com/

  343. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 11:50 am #

    Prog,
    Yes, Dan Cathy can express his beliefs, but he goes beyond expressing his beliefs and gives money to groups that are trying to inflict their own beliefs upon others through laws.

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  344. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 11:54 am #

    Rhino,
    Obviously Jesus would support laws against acts that hurt others.
    My statement was badly worded, I should have written, if a persons actions do not harm others then …

  345. Eleuthero August 2, 2012 at 11:55 am #

    Asoka said:
    K-dog, it is racist because it perpetuates the stereotype of Blacks on welfare. Of the 46 million people living in poverty in America in 2010, the U.S. census revealed that 31 million were white. Ten million were black. Of the 49 million people without health insurance coverage, 37 million were white; 8 million were African American. Latinos of every race and Asian Americans represented the remaining largest ethnic groups.
    **************************************************************
    Since blacks outnumber whites in America by about a 7:1 ratio, this means that your ten million blacks would become 70 million if they equalled whites in population. So blacks are 2.3X more likely to be on welfare. Gee, that looks pretty good compared to black CRIME and on a per capita basis you really, really, REALLY don’t wanna go there because the 2.3X on things like VIOLENT CRIME become numbers like 7X,10X, and 11X.
    When Fred Reed, a moderate liberal, writes TWO columns about your ethnic group and their relentless carping about their “victimhood”, the gig is up. The tone of his latest writings about the race issue are VERY uncharacteristic of him. Yet I unabashedly agree with the general theme: If Asians can come in here and even outdo whites, blacks have no legitimate bitch. You don’t hear whites carping about being “discriminated” against when more Asians than whites get into UC Berkeley and UCLA.
    You’d better get used to white “race fatigue” because even your liberal brethren, Asoka, are sick to death of being afraid of going into inner cities, sick to death of black underachievement, sick to death of the Crips and the Bloods, sick to death of black atavism. At least Hispanics in America have a real work ethic for God’s sake. Our own East Palo Alto has a FRACTION of the murders it used to have in the 1980s and 1990s because Hispanics have largely forced out the blacks.
    Learn to face facts, Asoka. It might make you somewhat credible.
    E.

  346. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 11:57 am #

    what Q. is proposing (eliminate 75% of government) would not realize sufficient savings to pay off the national debt and would leave the USA defenseless.
    ===========
    This^ is priceless on two levels:
    . that Asoka, of all people, is concerned that shrinking the government might leave the USA defenseless.
    . that having government spend 4 times more than Q thinks they should spend will somehow be a quicker route to paying off the national debt.

  347. BeantownBill August 2, 2012 at 11:58 am #

    Well if it’s not Conley, maybe Chuck Connors? He was drafted by the Celtics,and then became an actor. Just guessing.

  348. Eleuthero August 2, 2012 at 12:05 pm #

    P4S said:
    The thought flitted through my head, E – that JHK posting his reading list this week, was a way to begin to say goodbye to his weekly posts, or to this comments section, or something.
    Call it a premonition, on my part.
    ************************************************************
    I emailed JHK. He told me he was going to “Go in and police the fuckers!!” Maybe he will … and maybe your “premonition” is correct. If he did call it quits, his timing could be a lot worse. After all, these weekly missives are just variations on the same themes and I’m sure Jim, himself, is tired of adding literary panache to disguise the sameness of the message.
    As far as I’m concerned, he’s already been proved right about the economy and “easy motoring”. The middle class is virtually nonexistent now since the net worth of an average household isn’t enough to sustain one relative in a nursing home for a year. Joe Stiglitz’ stats have our middle class now about where VENEZUELA’S is at this moment.
    Jim doesn’t need to PROVE anything. As far as this blog is concerned, though, it’s a goner if the spammers aren’t removed and prevented from incarnating. I haven’t done a good count but it sure seems like net posting volume and net number of contributors is dropping fast.
    If Jim closes the joint down, well, it’s been fun.
    E.

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  349. Eleuthero August 2, 2012 at 12:07 pm #

    Of course, Q, if 75% of the government is removed, you and I know that the ones that will be removed will be the people who actually do real work. The useless figureheads will remain and be given a 200% raise. That’s the “New, New America”.
    E.

  350. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 12:08 pm #

    the gig is up.
    ==========
    It’s jig.
    http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/55/messages/720.html

  351. Barfy Barf August 2, 2012 at 12:16 pm #

    No, not the Rifleman either. It’s a twist on the word “played.” The answer is John Kiley, who played the organs at both Fenway Park and the Boston Garden.
    I used to see him strolling into the Garden — back in the day when I could get a seat so high up that oxygen was lacking for $1.00 and a piece of heartburn pizza for .25 cents.

  352. Rhino August 2, 2012 at 12:19 pm #

    The Tarim Basin folk were there for millennia according to what I’ve read. So I don’t think they have much to prove in terms of survival skills.
    You say they aren’t around anymore. How do you know? How do you know that they didn’t just move on to greener pastures?
    As far as racial mixing goes, there’s multitudes alive in Asia that are “racially” mixed. Turkic peoples for example.
    I don’t like giving personal shit on the internet but I’ll give this small bit: on one side of my family they have a distinct Asiatic cast to their appearance such that one of my playmates asked me when we were small boys whether one of my grandparents is Chinese.
    Have we ever done DNA tests to ferret out where/who our clan descends from? No, can’t be bothered. But if we did do some DNA tests it wouldn’t surprise if we had some origins deep in Asia given the extent of Asiatic invasions of Europe. Racial mixing IOW.

  353. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

    Please, for a moment, throw out all of your beliefs, and tell me if you really think it is normal for a man to insert his organ into what amounts to a sewer system.
    Please for a moment consider that not all homosexual relationships involve anal penetration.
    Homosexual relationships are primarily about LOVE (and not about sex), are primarily about caring and supporting one another. You seem to be obsessed about the sex with your graphic descriptions. What it is really about is a loving relationship between two of God’s children.
    Jesus himself never condemned homosexuality.
    Jesus promoted LOVE. It would be good if more people followed that part of Jesus’ teaching.
    Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul.
    Love your neighbor as yourself.
    Love your enemies.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

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  354. Jam47 August 2, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    A few days ago I came across a great book on meditation: Meditation, The Complete Guide; Patricia Monaghan.
    I mention it because of its comprehensiveness. It describes techniques of meditation from the following perspectives:yoga, Buddhism, Taoism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam. It may not impress the veteran meditator but the beginner will find it useful.
    As the theme of this blog is peak-oil and its consequences, a post on meditation is out of place:
    Some may think this but I’m obviously not one of them. When the storm finally arrives, the ability to slow your physiology and calm your mind is going to be a necessary skill. The SSRIs and the benzodiazapines are going to be very much harder to get.

  355. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    I know it sounds confusing but you’re a bright guy and with a little more effort I’m sure you’ll get it.
    Why, thank you!
    You still have not answered the question: do you favor dismantling ALL government education efforts, including those in the armed forces?

  356. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 12:48 pm #

    Thank you, jam47.
    I completely agree that meditation is an important Long Emergency survival skill during life.
    Meditation is also an important preparation for letting go of this mortal body at the point of death. Life, death, it’s all good.
    By the way, here is my understanding of meditation: a relaxed, aware, and non-judgmental state while walking, eating, posting to CFN, sitting in the dental chair, gardening, etc.
    As you say, there are hundreds of ways to get there.

  357. Jam47 August 2, 2012 at 1:04 pm #

    I appreciate your civil and considered replies on this almost untouchable topic.
    I still think race science is actual science. I also think, sometimes, that scientists should just stay out of the subject and let the layman decide who fits where. That’s how it used to be.
    Some of the scientists who’ve entered the field are out and out ideologues. Franz Boaz is supposedly one of these.

  358. Vlad Krandz August 2, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    For a long time the Chinese goverment refused access to the mummies – the tall Whites were more advanced than the Chinese of their time and obviously the Chinese got alot from them.
    Later Chinese annals talk about destroying these people.
    One has to choose: loyalty to the West or to the Chinese. You have chosen the lesser path. I sympathize – of all the alien races, they are the highest and their women lovely.
    Yes, there are higher and lower among the East Asians. The Chinese themselves know that the North is often far superior to the South where the brown skin of the tribals begins to be seen. As one Chinese told me, the Laotians and Cambodians are no better than Puerto Ricans.

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  359. Vlad Krandz August 2, 2012 at 1:16 pm #

    Most Gay Men admit they are all about Sex. The marriage thing is pure “we’re just as good as you” type egotism born of an inferiority complex.

  360. Vlad Krandz August 2, 2012 at 1:24 pm #

    One early modern American White Nationalist was amazed by the Civil Rights mania. He said even Blacks themselves would someday be sickened by unending din of Black, Black, Black.
    He was wrong. It never happened. With a few honorable exceptions, Blacks never tired of the endless carping and portraying themselves as heroic victims. They are ignoble in a word.
    It was a good little book, Carlton Putnam’s “A Yankee Looks at Race”. He was an early aviation executive and a cousin of the famous Anthropologist Carlton Coon. He had an optimism that is no longer possible. He read Franz Boas and suddenly realize there was nothing there except hot air; that he was just a Marxist playing the role of an Anthropologist. He thought others would read and realize the same. He was wrong. Even Anthropologists fell into line and condemned his cousin Carlton Coon’s new book – without even reading it.
    This is how Civilizations crumble. Suddenly there just isn’t enough quality to keep it going.

  361. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 1:26 pm #

    What is called “race science” (also called “race realism” or “racialism”) is actually a pretext for racism, albeit “scientific racism” which has been used to justify Jim Crow, apartheid, and slavery.
    The USA is signatory to the UN convention, which states that superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere.
    I agree with you that Rhino’s replies have been admirable.

  362. Rhino August 2, 2012 at 1:26 pm #

    There is no limit to how many people we can love. – Asoka
    Is that so? You called yourself an anti-white racist did you not? So why the fuck don’t you practice what you preach? Your frequent posts decrying the depravity and immorality of Europeans/caucasians while ignoring that of other peoples betrays your own hatred and contempt.
    BTW you never did address my question which I repeated many times: You exult in the the “reconquista” of the Southwestern USA by Hispanics. So do you then support the “reconquista” of Palestine by Jews? Same principle, no? People deprived of a historic homeland etc. Right? Taking back what by right and by history is theirs. Right? Or are Jews a special case here? Are they not entitled like other people to a homeland? Is there a hierarchy in your mind as to what people are entitled to what rights? Do tell…
    OTOH maybe its better that you just shut the fuck up on this. For good and forever. And on the “love” issue too.

  363. Vlad Krandz August 2, 2012 at 1:31 pm #

    Christianity is right: everyone is a rebel due to original sin. Some rebel by not flushing the toilet – other by overthrowing nations. Liberals are all about rebellion. I’ve seen it the Catholic Church: the Liberals don’t give a fig about the Theology or Tradition but the idea of humiliating and tearing down fills them with unspeakable joy.
    Ask Beantown Bill about the send off they gave Ted Kennedy – in one of Boston’s Cathedrals with full honors as if he was a saint and not a pro abortion apostate.

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  364. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    Of course, Q, if 75% of the government is removed, you and I know that the ones that will be removed will be the people who actually do real work. The useless figureheads will remain and be given a 200% raise. That’s the “New, New America”. – E to Q
    ===============
    E, in order to avoid posting a dissertation, I spoke only of shrinking Federal govt by 75%. The truth is, however, that I mean all levels of govt (Fed, State, local). Let me give you an example:
    As soon as I finish posting this comment I will get out of my chair, hop in my car, drive over to my local Boro Hall, and make a quarterly property tax payment of nearly $2,900 (yes, you heard right, quarterly) which is due between 8/1 and 8/10/12. The tax bill is this high for many reasons but primarily because our dinky population 15,000 town maintains an entire infrastructure of schools from K thru 12 replete with playgrounds, football fields and all the rest that is required in our modern era of public education. Govt should have nothing to do with “school systems” any more than they should be running a district of coffee shops a la Starbucks.
    At Boro Hall I will be greeted by one of the surly faced women behind the plate glass window of the tax office.
    All of this – the school system, the big over-staffed Boro Hall building with its “shade tree commission” and all the other “commissions” staffed by do-gooders whose spouses teach sociology at Rutgers and whose shit don’t stink (figuratively speaking) etc etc – would be unnecessary with with governments limited to their legitimate realms of concern and with a flat rate consumption tax on EVERYTHING that, by its nature, would extract, in a fair manner, more from the wealthy than the poor.
    Back shortly, after I pay my pound of flesh.

  365. Rhino August 2, 2012 at 1:47 pm #

    Vlad tall white northern Europeans couldn’t cope with Hunnic cavalry in the late antiquity. So they sought refuge in the western Roman Empire. And they had Greco Roman civilization before them served up ready made. Many centuries of advancement on a platter so to speak.
    And what did they go and do? They fucked it up totally. OK maybe not totally. But badly enough. So much so that European civilization took until the 1700s to regain the sophistication and level of advancement of the Roman era in terms of ease of transport, literacy etc. Many measures. You’ve read the same things as I have, no doubt.
    So what accounts for the apparent ineptitude of these tall, noble, fair skinned white people of the north? Was it genetic? Was it that they didn’t have the intellectual wherewithal of the short swarthy Greeks and Romans? That would be the absurd and unreasonable position to take but if I were a racist that’s the position I would take.
    Or are there more reasonable and considered approaches here? Like considering historic and environmental factors. Like the history of inter-tribal animosities among northern European and Slavic tribes that caused constant conflict for hundreds of years and which resulted in the breakdown of trade, transport and which removed the raison d’etre of cities which therefore led to a decline of literacy and numeracy etc.
    You see Vlad what you attribute to genetics and race can be used against your own favorite people. Don’t be too hasty to use “race” as justification.
    Another example: if northern whites were so smart why was it that it was the southern darkies that invented agriculture? Were they smarter? Or was it due to environmetal factors?
    There were broad swathes of history where the level of advancement of northern whites was nowhere close to your supposed lesser races Vlad.

  366. mistified August 2, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

    “We should lower the number to $250,000 because we need to pay off a very large national debt.”
    Oh, so you care about the fucking national debt? Too funny. The stoooopid fucking Marxist programs that you constantly support are what have caused this national debt. So, before we raise taxes we cut programs. We do that first, because if you don’t cut out the cancer first, before the radiation, the radiation is ineffective.
    You fucktards are such morons. You always want to shut the fucking barn door after the horse has already escaped. You want to patriate 20 million illegals. And of course you are so fucking corrupt you tell us they aren’t illegal, even though they entered our borders illegally. Wrong again, morons. First we secure our borders. Once that has been achieved, then we can talk about citizenship for illegal aliens.
    Why can’t morons, such as yourself, ever get the sequencing thingy down? Why are we governed by such lying nincompoops?

  367. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 2:00 pm #

    By the way, here is my understanding of meditation: a relaxed, aware, and non-judgmental state while walking, eating, posting to CFN, sitting in the dental chair, gardening, etc.
    =============
    Ohhhh, then I’ve been meditating my every waking moment and didn’t even know it. Ya mean I don’t have to sit with my legs bent like a pretzel? That’s good ’cause my knees are killing me, especially the right. I think I might have arthur-itis.

  368. Rhino August 2, 2012 at 2:05 pm #

    Loyalty to the west you say.
    This is progress. Because now we’re talking about a long history and cultural tradition.
    So do you want to talk about how we want to live? Or values maybe? Or laws? These are different matters. The “West” isn’t cast in stone. I’m all ears.

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  369. Rhino August 2, 2012 at 2:11 pm #

    I agree…untouchable in many ways and yet the issue of race is front and center in so many discussions.
    But untouchable because we have fucked things up most wretchedly. As you pointed out the problem of racial animosities is a worldwide phenom and doesn’t just reside in Europe/USA/white people.
    “Some of the scientists who’ve entered the field are out and out ideologues.” – Jam
    No doubt. I see this problem of ideology in other branches of supposed “science”.

  370. anti soak August 2, 2012 at 2:16 pm #

    Mudd Mike, I cant find the post where you said I
    ‘pulled a number from my ass’
    Eleuthero replied to comment from asoka
    Asoka said:K-dog, it is racist because it perpetuates the stereotype of Blacks on welfare. Of the 46 million people living in poverty in America in 2010, the U.S. census revealed that 31 million were white. Ten million were black.
    Since blacks outnumber whites in America by about a 7:1 ratio, this means that your ten million blacks would become 70 million if they equalled whites in population.
    So blacks are 2.3X more likely to be on welfare. Gee, that looks pretty good compared to black CRIME and on a per capita basis you really, really, REALLY don’t wanna go there because the 2.3X on things like VIOLENT CRIME become numbers like 7X,10X, and 11X

  371. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 2:17 pm #

    would be unnecessary with with governments limited
    ============
    I HATE when I do that.

  372. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 2:34 pm #

    Try using the “find” function of your browser. You can find any term you type in.
    I let Eleuthero get by with a backwards statement, it should be ‘Since WHITES outnumber BLACKS by 7:1″
    Though from the numbers I found it was closer to 1:6.
    The other numbers are close to correct.

  373. Jam47 August 2, 2012 at 2:48 pm #

    Just read in the Toronto Star that the great Gore Vidal has died.

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  374. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 2:52 pm #

    ‘Since WHITES outnumber BLACKS by 7:1″
    Though from the numbers I found it was closer to 1:6.
    ===========
    No, you mean 6:1, not 1:6.

  375. Vlad Krandz August 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm #

    Saw the movie about farming in Detroit – good stuff. Of course it let the Blacks off the hook completely: not a word about how their terror drove hundreds of thousands of Whites out of the city. No, no, no. Liberals prefer and Blacks prefer to see Blacks as heroic victims of White terror. Why are no supermarkets in Black areas? They are trying to starve them! – and not that Blacks steal so much that these ventures cannot be profitable and are too dangerous for employees.

  376. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm #

    Got me! You are correct!

  377. turkle August 2, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    “Govt should have nothing to do with “school systems” any more than they should be running a district of coffee shops a la Starbucks.”
    How is providing education anything at all like selling coffee? Your analogy sucks so much that I don’t even feel the need to provide you the details why.
    There are good reasons that all the advanced countries, well, actually, most countries on the planet, have educational systems run by their central governments. Can you think of what some of these legitimate reasons might be, Q? I’ll leave it as an exercise for your own edification. Perhaps you can use this little thought experiment to step out of your little “government bad, private sector good” box, whose confines you know oh so well.
    As far as school system bloat and waste, that’s another separate topic, but eliminating government-funded education altogether would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I mean, you think Americans are dumb and uninformed now, just wait until you remove “free” K-12 education.

  378. Vlad Krandz August 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm #

    You really go off when I mention the height of Northern Europeans. You must be a short south Italian. Many short men have an inferiority complex – the pugnacity of the short man is legendary.
    Yes Oriental Cavalry, expecially the archers, always threw Western Armies for a loop. Europeans did best when they copied their tactics. But a combined army of Romans and Visigoths did finally
    defeat the Huns. A thousand years later the Mongols did the same thing to the Knights of Eastern Europe. The horde was recalled to Mongolia after the death of the Khan and thus Europe may have been saved. On the other hand, Western Europe was much more heavily militarized -and Castles always were hard for the Oriental horsemen to crack.

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  379. Vlad Krandz August 2, 2012 at 3:02 pm #

    Loyalty to the West means loyalty to the White Race. That means having White Children. That means no marrying Chinese or Blacks or Hindoos or anyone not White.

  380. Vlad Krandz August 2, 2012 at 3:12 pm #

    Just to expand a bit: the Asians have taken aspects of our culture and made them their own. But this synthesis is not Western Culture. They now even feel superior to us and are excited about replacing us in our own lands. Someone like you can’t have a problem with that – we do.
    I have no problem with them taking science and technology and using them or adapting them. We have done the same in the past with Asian and Arab knowledge. But that did not make us Asian or Arab. Nor did it make our invading their lands more palatable to them.

  381. turkle August 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

    “You fucktards are such morons.”
    What an incredibly convincing, airtight argument you present. I’m surprised you don’t have your own television program, or at least some kind of AM talk show.

  382. turkle August 2, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    I don’t think there’s much danger of you marrying anyone anytime soon, Vladski. I really think you should take what you can get, whether it be brown or purple with pink polka dots. I’m guessing the babes are not exactly lining up for a shot with you.
    As far as telling other people who they can and can’t marry, well, best of luck with trying to micromanage the marital choices of billions of people. I’m sure a bunch of white people will alter their romantic behavior because Krapz told them to on some shitty blog comments section.

  383. BeantownBill August 2, 2012 at 3:28 pm #

    Turk, I happen to agree with Q on this one. Education is too important to leave to government. I never had a civics course in high school, so I might be wrong, but where in the U.S. Constitution does it give the government the power to provide education for its citizens?
    You are correct that there’s bloat and waste in our educational system. The same can be said of our university system, so even the private sector has its flaws in this regard. But I think private sector education has evolved as an extension of government-sponsored education.
    The real problem lies in our philosophy of what education should be. Currently it’s based on the principle of teaching to the norm. This is wrong. Some persons shouldn’t go past the 4th grade, while others can and want to assimilate 16 years of education in 9 or 10.
    The idea of mass-mediocracy education was invented by liberal social scientists (I think) who believed that everyone should have the opportunity to be equally educated. Actually, people don’t have the same educational desires, nor the same intellectual capacity.
    Unfortunately, the government stepped in and forced the masses to have the same education. First, let’s overhaul the system, and second, let those who have school-aged children pay for their kids’ schooling. Forcing people to pay for other children’s education is stealing money. I realize an educated populace is beneficial to everyone, but having educated children is the responsibility of the parents.

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  384. welles August 2, 2012 at 3:29 pm #

    Love your enemies
    Jesus, aka Yashua, never ‘said’ that…(who knows what he actually ‘said’ after 2,000 years and countless revisions)
    Apparently the phrase is ‘do not hate your enemies’.
    It’s downright stupid to love your enemies. Are you going to love the colorado gunman while he’s shooting up the cinema, or take him out if you have a gun on you? How would you reconcile ‘loving’ him while killing him to save others? Does not compute.
    ‘Do not hate’ makes much more sense, you can shoot to kill without hating, simply because it’s necessary.
    What does ‘love’ mean ANYWAY? It means whatever the user ascribes to its meaning.
    Man I’m thinking millions of people have died and tortured millions of other people on the basis of simple mistranslated words. How horrific.
    Do no harm is about as good as it gets.
    peace peaceniks

  385. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 3:55 pm #

    you think Americans are dumb and uninformed now, just wait until you remove “free” K-12 education.
    =============
    “Free!” I love it. I just got back from paying the town $2,893.31, more than half of which goes to run the school system. Multiply by 4 to annualize. That’s $11,573 for a year. Now let’s do a back of the envelope calculation using rounded numbers to simplify.
    When I moved into my home in June 1978 (34 yrs ago) the prop tax was $1,900, and now it is $11,600. The avg per year is $6,750 making the outlay for the 34 years $229,500. I expect to live 14 more years. At the absolute minimum I will pay $162,400 over the next 14 years (14 x 11,600) and very likely MUCH more. By then I will have paid $391,900 of which at least $195,950 goes to operate the school system. I have 3 kids who passed thru this system. That’s $65,317 each or $5,024 per each of 13 years. Now, double or triple these numbers for people who had just 2 or 1 kid, not to mention zero kids.
    We once used a girl from up the block as a baby sitter. She was the last of 13 children in her family. I’m sure her parents LOVVVED socialized public education. All those childless academics in town picked up the tab. Maybe if people had to pay the freight for the education of their own offspring their might be less offspring. Why the hell is this such an outrageous idea? They pay for their offspring’s food, clothing and shelter.
    Turk, it is not me who is thinking inside a box, it is you. You are so ingrained with a certain paradigm that you can’t conceive of treating education like any other item of consumption.
    You mentioned “school system bloat and waste” as being “another separate topic” but you forgot to mention ineptitude.

  386. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 4:18 pm #

    You called yourself an anti-white racist did you not?
    YES, AND I ALSO SAID I WAS NOT PROUD OF IT.
    So why the fuck don’t you practice what you preach?
    I HAVE SPENT MY LIFE TRYING TO OVERCOME RACISM, INCLUDING MY OWN. THAT IS MY EXPRESSION OF LOVE.
    Your frequent posts decrying the depravity and immorality of Europeans/caucasians while ignoring that of other peoples betrays your own hatred and contempt.
    MY POSTS ABOUT MORALLY-CHALLENGED WHITES HAVE BEEN BACKED UP BY DATA AND BY REFERENCE TO ACTUAL HISTORICAL EVENTS. I HAVE NEVER SAID OTHER PEOPLES WERE NOT GUILTY OF RACISM (I HAVE LOUDLY CONDEMNED IMPERIAL JAPAN, FOR EXAMPLE.) REFERENCING THE MURDERS BY WHITE NAZIS, WHITE BOLSHEVIKS, WHITE SOVIET COMMUNISTS, ETC.), I HAVE SAID THAT WHITE RACISM HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY VIRULENT AND HAS KILLED MILLIONS.
    NOBODY EQUALS WHITES IN MORAL DEPRAVITY WHEN IT COMES TO NUCLEAR BOMBS. NOBODY HAS EVEN BEEN SO INHUMANE AS TO USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS AGAINST CIVILIAN POPULATIONS … EXCEPT MORALLY-CHALLENGED WHITES, THOUGH MANY NON-WHITE NATIONS POSSESS NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
    BTW you never did address my question which I repeated many times: You exult in the the “reconquista” of the Southwestern USA by Hispanics. So do you then support the “reconquista” of Palestine by Jews?
    YES AND NO. I BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT, NOT IN BUILDING WALLS, CHECKPOINTS, BORDERS, FENCES, ETC. THE FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT SHOULD WORK BOTH WAYS.
    Same principle, no?
    HERE IS THE PRINCIPLE I ENDORSE:
    Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country. Article 13(b) Universal Declaration of Human Rights
    People deprived of a historic homeland etc. Right?
    I DON’T KNOW. I BELIEVE IN A TWO-STATE SOLUTION. “Palestinians” are Arabs indistinguishable from Arabs throughout the Middle East. The great majority of Arabs in greater Palestine and Israel share the same culture, language and religion.
    Taking back what by right and by history is theirs. Right?
    NO. NOT BY FORCE OR VIOLENCE. YES, IF IT IS A PEACEFUL RECONQUISTA THROUGH IMMIGRATION, MISCEGENATION, AND ILLEGAL NONVIOLENT OCCUPATION.
    Or are Jews a special case here?
    NO. THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THE SAME RIGHTS, UNIVERSAL RIGHTS, AS EVERYONE ELSE.
    Are they not entitled like other people to a homeland?
    YES. I SUPPORT THE TWO-STATE SOLUTION.
    Is there a hierarchy in your mind as to what people are entitled to what rights? Do tell…
    SEE THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS. IT SPELLS OUT THE POSITION I HOLD IN MY MIND PERFECTLY.
    OTOH maybe its better that you just shut the fuck up on this. For good and forever. And on the “love” issue too.
    THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR OPINION. I ADMIRE YOUR RECENT POSTS ON RACE. I RESPECTFULLY DECLINE YOUR INVITATION TO “SHUT THE FUCK UP”
    LET’S KEEP TALKING, RHINO.

  387. turkle August 2, 2012 at 4:22 pm #

    I was primarily responding to your overstated and rather ridiculous assertion that government should have “nothing to do” with education.
    If this is the case, and the private sector can do so much better all by its self with zero help from the government, then where is your counter example? In what country is education handled on a 100% private basis? If you can name one country where this is the case, would you actually want to have your children educated there?
    There are hybrid systems with public and private sector components, but there is no country on this planet (that you’d want to live in) where the government is not involved at all in education.
    So, Q, why do you think this is? Is there some reason all these different cultures and nations have come to a kind of collective consensus on this issue of public education? Is it simply to provide jobs for teachers and bureaucrats? Really?
    As far as the lady down the street and her 13 kids, I seriously doubt she would stop having them if their schooling was not provided by the community. They’d just likely be a whole lot dumber.
    Regarding your property tax bill, yeah, wow, that’s pretty high. I’m not really in favor of property taxes being used to fund education. I think it is a messed up system, but I’m not going to jump to the rather insane conclusion that government-supported education should be completely dismantled and abandoned, as that would cause more problems than it would solve.

  388. anti soak August 2, 2012 at 4:24 pm #

    I had posted recently that the local JC in Soviet Monica[with its ‘sustainability center, ombudsperson,[was an ombudsMAN a few years ago] and Global Citizenship requirements to graduate, Oh and 1000+ undocumented, funded by the Latino Center or whoever] has gone from about 30 Supervisors to 110?
    in 15 years. Thats 10 million dollars a year for more directors, Dept heads, etc.
    No free lunch.

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  389. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 4:27 pm #

    I let Eleuthero get by with a backwards statement…
    All talk about ratios and percentages is beside the point. There are more whites than Blacks. There are more white users of welfare than Black users of welfare.
    The point is Fred’s racism because he said he wants to get Blacks off welfare and turn them into taxpayers.
    Whites are by far the largest group of welfare users, in numerical terms.
    If someone was really interested in getting people off welfare, so they could pay taxes, the focus should be on whites, who form the greatest number of welfare users.
    But Fred focused on Blacks. Fred is a racist.

  390. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 4:30 pm #

    I absolutely agree with you here.

  391. rippedthunder August 2, 2012 at 4:34 pm #

    Q, I am with you ! Sure I was a public servant and I was well compensated. I had 2 kids . Both in public schools. I’m not complaining but I know older folks who were childless and they paid the same as me. Also we have a flat trash and sewer rate in my town. I take care of several older people and they put out maybe a bag of trash a week and probably shit once a day. They pay the same as the pizza box hog with five kids,three trash bins,and three shitters. It hardly seems fair. But hey, WTF am I?

  392. turkle August 2, 2012 at 4:35 pm #

    “You are so ingrained with a certain paradigm that you can’t conceive of treating education like any other item of consumption.”
    Services like education and health care are not just like any other item of consumption, and treating them as such is a recipe for failure. That’s why the government is so heavily involved in the first place, because the private sector by itself cannot handle the complexities and costs by itself. Treating these as purely profit-making institutions fails pretty miserably. That’s why, you know, it mostly is not done in the advanced nations, most (all?) of which have public systems in place for these. In fact, one of the primary traits that are commonly used to identify countries with good standards of living are the quality of their educational and health systems, and I assure you, this is mostly public and not private infrastructure.
    You still haven’t done the thought experiment as to why this might be, which I think would be good at chipping away some of your attitude that the government should basically provide nothing at all except the roads that you drive your blimp-mobile on (presumably), so that, I guess, you can have an ultra-low tax bill.
    You seem to advocate a “pay as you go” system where people pay directly for all the services they use. Okay. In this case, what happens to the people (children mostly) who can’t pay the up-front costs because they’re too poor? No health care or education for them? You cool with that, old man? Because frankly it sounds like a pretty crappy world that you imagine.

  393. rippedthunder August 2, 2012 at 4:36 pm #

    16 more years? God Bless ya. I’m planning on 5-7!

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  394. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 4:47 pm #

    BB,
    The Constitution refers to the federal gov. only! Education is done by the states. I have not checked them, but here is a paper about the provisions for education in state constitutions.
    http://camlaw.rutgers.edu/statecon/subpapers/tractenberg.pdf
    Also, when the states fail, the federal government is given the responsibility for the GENERAL WELFARE” of the people and country.
    From article 1, Section 8:
    “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and GENERAL WELFARE of the United States” (emphasis mine)
    From the preamble:
    “WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
    I doubt even you would not believe that an educated citizenry is critical to the general welfare of a country.

  395. turkle August 2, 2012 at 4:48 pm #

    Q, we always get into these debates about public vs. private sector on here. I’m not sure how you can make the argument that the private sector is always superior, which is one of your common refrains. As I see it, the government saved the US private economy’s bacon recently with the multi-trillion dollar bailout, the purchase and restructuring of GM, etc. I’m not sure how you can honestly look out on the world and determine that government is the primary problem here and should be severely downsized or eliminated. Without it, where would we be right now? My guess is Great Depression II. Now, does that mean that everything the government does is correct and sacrosanct? No, of course not, and I never stated this. But naively believing that the private economy can handle all the world’s problems without any government intervention whatsoever has got to be one of the most bone-headed belief systems out there (with the exception of Scientology).

  396. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 4:55 pm #

    Services like education and health care are not just like any other item of consumption, and treating them as such is a recipe for failure. That’s why the government is so heavily involved in the first place
    That, and the little known fact that the Constitution says, in Article I Section 8 that government’s purpose is to:
    provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States
    Although Q. refuses to answer whether he wants to eliminate publicly-funded education in the DoD, he does say government has a right to defend itself by providing for the common defense.
    Like a slimy eel, Q. then tries to place more importance on the Preamble of the Constitution, where the word “promote” is used, while ignoring Article I, Section 8, where the word “provide” is used for the “general welfare” and is JUST AS IMPORTANT AS DEFENSE.
    Q. may believe an uneducated and ignorant citizenry is a good thing, but he cannot deny that government has a constitutionally-mandated role in both promoting and providing for the general welfare of the citizenry.
    General welfare includes government-subsidized infrastructure, government-subsidized education and government-subsidized health care, and government-subsidized defense.
    The USA may not always deliver on its ideals, but the USA is the greatest country on earth, idealistically speaking.
    If Q. does not like our Constitution, if he does not love our country, he is free to move.
    Or Q. can vote for Romney. Romney has experience in outsourcing and destroying what is left of the USA.

  397. turkle August 2, 2012 at 4:56 pm #

    I guess my primary arguments in favor of government services paid for by tax money are not ideological but practical. I don’t see a fully privatized education system working for the vast majority of people, just as 100% private health care does not work for many people here in the US, thus the necessity of Medicare, Medicaid, etc. There is also a necessary and fundamental role for the government in these systems as a regulating agent. Even the so-called private sector is heavily managed and regulated by the government. Is the hand too heavy? Perhaps. But cutting it off entirely is not going to do the vast majority of people any good whatsoever.

  398. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 4:56 pm #

    FORMATTING CORRECTION

    Services like education and health care are not just like any other item of consumption, and treating them as such is a recipe for failure. That’s why the government is so heavily involved in the first place

    That, and the little known fact that the Constitution says, in Article I Section 8 that government’s purpose is to:
    provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States
    Although Q. refuses to answer whether he wants to eliminate publicly-funded education in the DoD, he does say government has a right to defend itself by providing for the common defense.
    Like a slimy eel, Q. then tries to place more importance on the Preamble of the Constitution, where the word “promote” is used, while ignoring Article I, Section 8, where the word “provide” is used for the “general welfare” and is JUST AS IMPORTANT AS DEFENSE.
    Q. may believe an uneducated and ignorant citizenry is a good thing, but he cannot deny that government has a constitutionally-mandated role in both promoting and providing for the general welfare of the citizenry.
    General welfare includes government-subsidized infrastructure, government-subsidized education and government-subsidized health care, and government-subsidized defense.
    The USA may not always deliver on its ideals, but the USA is the greatest country on earth, idealistically speaking.
    If Q. does not like our Constitution, if he does not love our country, he is free to move.
    Or Q. can vote for Romney. Romney has experience in outsourcing and destroying what is left of the USA.

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  399. Jam47 August 2, 2012 at 4:57 pm #

    When was the year of the signing? If it was in the nineteen-forties, there’s irony here. The forties was when Sugar Ray Robinson was beginning to tear through the welterweight ranks. Robinson had a hard punch but he was also athletic and fast.
    I’m a longtime boxing fan, and I have to say that black boxers are different.
    Which are the ethnic/national groups from which most of America’s professional boxers have come? The Irish, the Italians, the Blacks, and now the Eastern Europeans. Generally, black boxers are faster, more graceful, more athletic–just like Ray Robinson was. And I’m not the only one who thinks this.
    I can’t comment on the IQ matter because I’m not qualified. But as far as certain physical capacities go, it’s plain, to me, that there’s a
    superiority/inferiority differential between the races.

  400. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 5:05 pm #

    Conrail is another government success. The government too over the failing rail systems in the Eastern US and turned it into a profitable company which was making about $1 billion a year. Reagan then sold it off for $4 billion. Thus the gov. has lost almost $30 billion since then.
    Ask people who have had their water systems privatized.

  401. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm #

    DAMN! too = took!!!

  402. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm #

    The Veterans Administration (socialized health care for veterans) is another government success with a 3% overhead, compared to private health care 17% overhead.
    It is more efficient to have a single payer government-run health care system with government-run hospitals and government-paid doctors and no CEOs getting multi-million dollar salaries.

  403. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 5:11 pm #

    CORRECTION
    no CEOs getting multi-million dollar salaries (which should be taxed at 95% after the first $250,000 because $250,000 allows you to live anywhere in the country, including midtown Manhattan).
    🙂

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  404. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm #

    My candidates for President and Vice-President have been released from jail.
    Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein and her running mate have been released from jail after their arrests at a Philadelphia protest.
    The demonstrators included several city residents struggling to keep their homes. Two met with Fannie Mae officials.
    Stein is a Harvard-educated physician. Her “Green New Deal” platform aims to create sustainable local economies and reduce corporate power in politics.

  405. BeantownBill August 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm #

    You are right of course, but you get my point.

  406. mistified August 2, 2012 at 6:23 pm #

    “There are good reasons that all the advanced countries, well, actually, most countries on the planet, have educational systems run by their central governments. Can you think of what some of these legitimate reasons might be…”
    Why yes I can. One would be so citizens, such as yourself, could all get on the same page with their government and dance their little meat-puppet dance.
    And for those who escape the educational gulag, to ensure loyalty, the government can then issue food stamps and well fare to keep the rest in line. Does it actually work? Well it must. Your posts here would prove that the lovely “central government” education has produced a wonderful little drone in you. Now aren’t you proud?

  407. mistified August 2, 2012 at 6:27 pm #

    “You fucktards are such morons.”
    “What an incredibly convincing, airtight argument you present.”
    No. But in your response, little missy, you have sealed the vacuum.
    (What an eeeeediot!)

  408. mistified August 2, 2012 at 6:31 pm #

    “In what country is education handled on a 100% private basis?”
    In this country, numbnuts. Its called home schooling. And the products of such, consistently score higher on the state mandated tests, ACT and SAT.
    Now be quiet. Mommy has your snack ready. Go eat it and her.

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  409. mistified August 2, 2012 at 6:35 pm #

    “Services like education and health care are not just like any other item of consumption, and treating them as such is a recipe for failure.”
    Riiight. We have to turn these over to the masterminds that have produced our wonderful IRS, postal service and Amtrack. Shut up loser. Go get a cool government job at the census bureau and get off your grandma’s Commodore 64.

  410. mistified August 2, 2012 at 6:42 pm #

    “There is also a necessary and fundamental role for the government in these systems as a regulating agent. ”
    Well of course there is. We need more regulations. 13,000 pages of tax code are not enough. And Queen Nancy’s 2000 plus pages, you know, the ones that “We’ll have to pass before we know what is in them.” for ObamaNeglect? Yes the “fundamental role” of government regulation is an astounding success. In fact a centralized government always puts the “fun” in fundamental. (You are such a fucktard that the illogic nature of your logic never registers on your fucked-up-a-tron.)

  411. turkle August 2, 2012 at 6:54 pm #

    You mad or just drinking too much coffee today, OEO? Take a chill pill.

  412. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 7:01 pm #

    mis,
    About the postal service. It is only broke because the Repukes in 2005 required it to fund health care for its retires that HAVEN’T EVEN BEEN BORN YET! They have to put in more than $50 billion into gov funds so the deficits don’t look as bad.
    There goal is of course to destroy the union.
    If you love free enterprise so much, try to send ANYTHING, ANYWHERE for less than $0.50 using Fedex, UPS or any other private company.

  413. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 7:10 pm #

    As to regulation, I live near Allentown, PA. A little over a year ago 5 people died because the lack of regulations allowed to leave 80 year old gas pipes that were known to be dangerous in the 90’s.
    For profit corporations have one purpose, to make as much money for the investors as possible. To make profit they have refused to replace dangerous pipes. The to execs are still making multimillion dollar salaries. Without regulation, those pipes will only be replaced when the cost of replacing them is less than the cost of paying off the relatives of the dead. They still insist it wasn’t there fault, and are trying to get the customers to pay for the new pipe they will eventually put in in 10+ years.
    As I understand capitalism, people invest money to pay for capital equipment (pipes). Then they get profits from that investment. However, in this case the investors, the customers, are not going to get stock and profits.
    The thing that amazes me is that the execs can sleep at night while continuing to collect their huge salaries.

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  414. turkle August 2, 2012 at 7:11 pm #

    You know, misty, the US government actually invented the internet through a DARPA grant, and a government-employed scientist from Europe invented the World Wide Web. So, without governments and their employees, you wouldn’t be able to electronically spew your pathetic, childish insults at anonymous people in blog comments sections. You should really thank the government for making you the troll you are today.

  415. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 7:42 pm #

    The WWW as we know it was conceived at Espresso Royale coffeehouse in Urbana, Illinois by Scott Andreesen. If you click “help” in your Microsoft Internet Explorer taskbar, then click “about”, you’ll find this:
    Based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic(TM); was developed at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
    Joint effort, NATIONAL center for Supercomputing Applications, plus U of I, part of Lincoln’s original land grant college program. “State School”.

  416. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 7:48 pm #

    I got to play around with early versions of Mosaic at NCS in the early 90’s. My neighbor worked there. He was an Indian who had never been to India, grew up in Kuwait, went to U of Texas, Austin, became a bit of an American at that point, student visa…waited his turn like his friends who were angry at the Immigration Reform and Control Act that gave amnesty to a ton of illegals under the condition that after that, they’d crack down. When was that, 1984??!! Anyway, the guy ended up with a PhD in theoretical physics and had a cushy job with Hewlett Packard where he’d work a few hours a week at NCSA. I remember being shown bookmarks, forward and back buttons. I was impressed. At that point, the best chat I knew of was IRC, Internet Relay Chat. You had commands like /whois.

  417. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 7:49 pm #

    HAL from A Space Odyssey was also “invented” there. They used to celebrate his birthday yearly, I’m not sure if they still do.

  418. turkle August 2, 2012 at 7:57 pm #

    daytrip, the WWW was invented by Tim Berners Lee, though you could be right that the first browser was developed by someone at U of I.

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  419. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 7:59 pm #

    2001 a space odyssey

  420. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 8:03 pm #

    I’m talking about the internet explorer type mouseclick oriented interface, graphic interface, versus /whois type commands. “as we know it”, not the original, dos-type version.

  421. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 8:05 pm #

    And I know I left out some hyphens and made some sentences that aren’t really sentences…so sue me. 🙂

  422. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 8:10 pm #

    day,
    You’ll be hearing from my lawyer. That is, when I get one.

  423. anti soak August 2, 2012 at 8:20 pm #

    Its In-Doc-Tri-Nation ‘they’ seek.
    Hows this grab ya?
    President Barack Obama is backing a controversial campaign by progressives to regulate schools’ disciplinary actions so that members of major racial and ethnic groups are penalized at equal rates, regardless of individuals’ behavior.
    His July 26 executive order established a government panel to promote “a positive school climate that does not rely on methods that result in disparate use of disciplinary tools.”
    “African Americans lack equal access to highly effective teachers and principals, safe schools, and challenging college-preparatory classes, and they disproportionately experience school discipline,” said the order, titled “White House Initiative On Educational Excellence.”
    Because of those causes, the report suggests, “over a third of African American students do not graduate from high school on time with a regular high school diploma, and only four percent of African American high school graduates interested in college are college-ready across a range of subjects.”
    “What this means is that whites and Asians will get suspended for things that blacks don’t get suspended for,” because school officials will try to level punishments despite groups’ different infraction rates, predicted Hans Bader, a counsel at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Bader is a former official in the Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights, and has sued and represented school districts and colleges in civil-rights cases.
    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/27/obama-backs-race-based-school-discipline-policies/#ixzz22RAVtETO
    .
    .

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  424. anti soak August 2, 2012 at 8:22 pm #

    It was ‘snail mail’ that tipped him off to the webs
    existence and potential, and he moved as fast as he could to develop his browser.
    The story I read said he is not that good a programmer, BUT HE IS A VERY FAST ONE.

  425. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 8:23 pm #

    lol. He’s not that cue stick character, is he?

  426. anti soak August 2, 2012 at 8:25 pm #

    What about email, UPS, FedEx?
    Might they also be causing the USPS some grief?

  427. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 8:30 pm #

    cell phones, texting… Some kids nowadays can’t write with a pen very well. Online bill paying, pay by phone…

  428. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 8:39 pm #

    Yes Oriental Cavalry, expecially the archers,
    =============
    Vlad, this is a common error, particularly among blacks. That is why I am certain you will correct it. The word is especially.

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  429. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 8:54 pm #

    Hows this grab ya?
    ===========
    The whole thing makes me ill. Maybe Asoka can rationalize why this is a good idea.

  430. asoka.. August 2, 2012 at 9:04 pm #

    My utilities bill came today: $19.87. My decision to live in a mud hut has filled me with happiness.

  431. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm #

    anti,
    Go to Fedex or UPS and see how much it costs to send anything anywhere. I put those in my comment, but you apparently didn’t read it or comprehend it.
    I just went to the UPS site to get a quote on the price of shipping a 0.2 pound (3 oz) package from Easton, PA to Allentown, PA, a distance of less than 20 miles by UPS ground.
    The quoted price was $8.65, That surely is competitive to the USPS cost of less than $1.50.
    But, since you seem to know everything, you already knew this. Check it yourself by going to UPS.com and getting a quote.

  432. turkle August 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm #

    Is it just pure coincidence that this site you link has a prominent advertisement for “Free Chick-Fil-A Coupons”?

  433. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 9:22 pm #

    a government-employed scientist from Europe invented the World Wide Web.
    ================
    It seems we’ve got a dispute going here about who invented the World Wide Web. Well, let me settle it…I invented the WWW. And a few years later I wrote the book that caused a huge stir in the meteorological world titled A Convenient Falsehood. Jesus, you people are so lacking in commonly known facts.

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  434. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 9:23 pm #

    anti,
    The Daily Caller, a truly unbiased source! The guys who send hecklers to interupt the President’s speech.
    “What this means is that whites and Asians will get suspended for things that blacks don’t get suspended for,” because school officials will try to level punishments despite groups’ different infraction rates, predicted Hans Bader, a counsel at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Bader is a former official in the Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights, and has sued and represented school districts and colleges in civil-rights cases.
    The Competitive Enterprise Institute, another unbiased source, with people who can see into the future and predict what is going to happen. DOes he have crystal balls?

  435. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 9:31 pm #

    Yes, email works well. You can send someone a “personalized” e-card on their birthday to show them that you don’t give a crap about them, and waited to the last second.
    By the way anti. Do you write your own posts or do you just copy and paste those that Carl Rove emails you?
    Also, do they pay by the word, or the talking point?

  436. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 9:33 pm #

    My utilities bill came today: $19.87. My decision to live in a mud hut has filled me with happiness.
    ==============
    Well, good for you but how is this related to my reply to Anti?

  437. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 9:44 pm #

    Quote from the Daily Crapper article
    “It is too bad that the president has chosen to set up a new bureaucracy with a focus on ONE PARTICULAR RACIAL GROUP, to the exclusion of all others,” said Roger Clegg, the president of the Center for Equal Opportunity. (emphasis mine)
    Here is a quote from:
    http://www2.ed.gov/about/inits/list/hispanic-initiative/index.html
    “The White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for HISPANIC AMERICANS was established in September 1990 by President GEORGE H. W. BUSH to provide advice and guidance to the secretary of education on education issues related to Hispanics and address academic excellence and opportunities for the Hispanic community. It was subsequently continued by President William J. Clinton under Executive Order 12900 [PDF, 15K] and President GEORGE W. BUSH under Executive Order 13230 [PDF, 95K]. ”
    Apparently Tucker switched from a clip on bow tie to a real one, and tied it too tight. Not enough blood getting to his brain cell. He must have done his usual nonexistent job of fact-checking.

  438. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 9:50 pm #

    There goal is of course …
    ===========
    Groan.

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  439. muddmike August 2, 2012 at 9:55 pm #

    AAAAAUURRGGHHHHH!
    Damn system doesn’t have a grammar checker. I blew it.

  440. turkle August 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm #

    And a shout out to my HOMIES. (Kunstler done gone and spelt it wrong!)
    asoka, hope you’re enjoying the mud hut living these days, though I’m not sure I believe that you actually live in a mud building. What do you call your dwelling, La Pueblo de Asoka?
    Q, hopefully someday you will realize that correcting other people’s grammar on the internet is a lost cause. I hope no one’s told you about the comments on youtube videos, or you’re doomed!
    mudd, welcome to the cluster-fold. Hope you’re enjoying it here.
    misty, I’m sorry the evil government killed your puppy or whatever.
    anti soak, I recommend some courses in remedial English. Kind of a pot/kettle/black thing going on when you criticize other people and write such barely intelligible posts.
    Vlad, go outside fer Christ’s sake! It is a beautiful day. Stop worrying so much about black people.
    daytrip, I invented Unicode (little known fact!). So you have me to thank for all the fun Chinese characters that show up here from time to time. Anyone want to buy a knock-off Gucci handbag by the way?
    progress4spam, I’m sorry you keep getting banned. I like your current username, BTW. I don’t think I was talking about you when I mentioned ‘bigots’. I’m sorry, but constantly mentioning differences in average IQ among the races on a weekly basis is just a bit much for me, ya know? I don’t know if it is bigotry, but it is annoying.
    I think I want to talk about that scary Rolling Stone article that came out recently which argues that if we burn all our current booked carbon fuel reserves that we will turn the planet into a Dutch Oven. Or maybe I don’t, because it is kind of scary. Hopefully, the scientists are wrong on this one. Or maybe we just need some of those nifty atmospheric processors from Alien 2, minus the deadly xenomorphs with acid for blood.

  441. turkle August 2, 2012 at 10:04 pm #

    You accidentally wrote ‘there’ instead of ‘their’. You make Baby Jesus cry. What a travesty and offense against civilization and all that is good and decent and proper and grammatical in the world.
    Please leave my blog comments section NOW! Or I will be forced to unleash further Q-checking on your remedial behind.

  442. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 10:07 pm #

    http://www.fredoneverything.net/Indocumentados.shtml
    Fred 508, randomdly chosen by the randomd processor I recently invented. No shit.
    Called on the front: Wetbacks
    Once you click, titled: The Illegals: Another Angle
    I don’t think it’s racist. I think it’s intense.

  443. turkle August 2, 2012 at 10:09 pm #

    I think I’m going to come out with an iPhone app called the “Q checker” which in addition to checking your grammar, will provide free curmudgeonly comments about how government should be cut by 75%. It may have a free tax calculator in there, too, which always gives the answer “TOO MUCH”.

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  444. daytrip August 2, 2012 at 10:46 pm #

    “When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.” — P.J. O’Rourke
    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/pot-legalization-is-coming-20120726#ixzz22Rm2hivL

  445. Vlad Krandz August 2, 2012 at 11:31 pm #

    It will be the end of Shaolin Order. Just think how bad Blacks will act once that goes into effect. It will drive the last White students out of integrated schools.

  446. Kyooshtik August 2, 2012 at 11:52 pm #

    It may have a free tax calculator in there, too, which always gives the answer “TOO MUCH”.
    ==============
    Good job tonight Turk. Several of your posts have majorly cracked me up.

  447. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 12:01 am #

    I agree. Turk is on a roll tonight! Good stuff!

  448. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 12:08 am #

    Vlad, have you noticed that the younger generation does not place much importance on skin color or sexual orientation.
    They seem to have a live and let live attitude and make friends easier regardless of supposed “differences.”
    http://www.people-press.org/2011/11/03/section-1-how-generations-have-changed/
    You are fighting a losing battle if you think white separatism or an end to integration is in the making. It is not. Just the opposite is happening.
    You are a relic from another era, one with attitudes that are thankfully dying, or as you so delicately put it, referring to white racists: “we’re doomed.”

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  449. Eleuthero August 3, 2012 at 12:13 am #

    Asoka said:
    But Fred focused on Blacks. Fred is a racist.
    **********************************************************
    You’re a moron but that’s nothing new. First you refuse to accept PER CAPITA statistics so your idea is that if one black murders 1,000 people and ten million whites murder 1,001 people, whites are more murderous. This is beyond imbecilic but it’s explainable by your need to reach for the most absurd “reasoning” to feel good about your tribe.
    Fred is far less of a racist than YOU. He’s lionized Asians and Hispanics in so many of his postings than I can count and he’s very critical of the trash-ization of American whites as I have been. You’re the only guy lacking all objectivity … well, you and Beantown.
    E.

  450. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 12:15 am #

    Vlad, I’m afraid you’re going to have to rig up that shot gun and make sure you can reach the trigger with your big toe. The last vestige of white Olympic dominance has fallen (badminton doesn’t doesn’t count).
    Gabby Douglas, the tiny American black chick, has won the women’s all-around gymnastics gold medal and it didn’t seem they gave it to her to atone for 400 years of slavery. I’ve enjoyed your unique perspective and way of expressing it. Best wishes for whatever follows that loud bang. – Q

  451. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 12:18 am #

    I don’t think it’s racist. I think it’s intense.
    Yeah, well, maybe that’s because it’s not directed at you.
    By the way, human beings can never be “illegal” … we all belong to this Earth and we all have a right to be here.
    Even in strictly legal terms, the laws governing who is allowed to enter the country and under what circumstances aren’t criminal statutes. If you enter the country on a visa and you overstay your visa, that is a civil but not a criminal offense.
    Undocumented human beings are not criminals, and they are not “illegals” … but Fred is a racist and every column you guys bring up only reinforces that fact.
    Fred is offensive. Fred is scared and pathetic.

  452. Eleuthero August 3, 2012 at 12:23 am #

    Turkle said:
    As I see it, the government saved the US private economy’s bacon recently with the multi-trillion dollar bailout,
    ************************************************************
    Well, that’s how you see it but it’s not backed up by what’s happened to the middle class which is a 40% loss of net worth that has been unrelieved by the “bailout”.
    I call your economic reasoning “backgammon reasoning” because there’s a certain type of backgammon player who plays lousy moves but wins BECAUSE of those lousy moves because the dice went incredibly in his favor. Over the long run, that player is going to lose most of his games and most of his money.
    Similarly, Bernanke’s bailouts are essentially playing bad moves and hoping that unseen forces will allow a “muddle through” scenario. In the process, here and in Europe, the printing of money with offsetting public debt is leading to a situation where that debt will crowd out private investment. Also, this idea that we’ll “print our way to growth” in a non-goods-producing economy is the height of absurdity. Even Keynes would laugh at that.
    Bernanke and Draghi’s idiotic policies are very much administering endless courses of chemo to a stage four cancer patient. Yes, the patient might live an extra year but it’s going to be a painful year and he’s still going to die. Dragging out this process on the public’s dime is cruel beyond belief.
    E.

  453. ewhfhi1i3 August 3, 2012 at 12:23 am #

    What jersey is the best to wear?

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  454. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 12:25 am #

    Your name calling is offensive, but I will not stoop to that level.
    To respond to you similarly would be uncouth behavior, which is why I suspect you like Fred.
    Like Q. said: “Nice schmice”
    You guys really seem to get off on displays of a lack of civilization and a lack of manners. Must be a macho thing.
    Have a nice weekend!

  455. rippedthunder August 3, 2012 at 12:34 am #

    “What jersey is the best to wear?”
    Southern Jersey, down by Cape May is nice. I was just there with my daughter, for a week.

  456. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 12:38 am #

    (badminton doesn’t doesn’t count).
    =============
    WTF? This makes twice today. Maybe I’ve come down with a neurological disorder…or Lupus…oh no, not Lupus.

  457. daytrip August 3, 2012 at 12:41 am #

    You didn’t read it. No way.
    “The fact is that the illegals come to work, and do, well and hard, which is why conservative patriotic busnessmen block attempts to restrict immigration.
    Which would be easy to do. Again, they come to work. Don’t hire them, and they won’t come. Illegals don’t take jobs from Americans. Americans give them the jobs.” Fred

  458. daytrip August 3, 2012 at 12:45 am #

    “Pablo may or may not be a model uncitizen, may drink too much, may use drugs,or go into crime. Or he may not. He is very likely to send money, substantial amounts of it, back to Tegucigalpa. In Jalisco, where I live in Mexico, remittances from migrants are a crucial part of the economy. Pablo also is not unlikely to begin planning to bring his family to the US.
    Family values. Putting his life on the line for his children. The work ethic. All that.
    Is massive immigration good for the US? I doubt it. Are all the illegals wonderful people? No. In the long run will there be a happy ending? I don’t know; to date there hasn’t been.
    Yet men and women who will claw and save for a coyote, and ride that godawful train, at dead serious risk of being raped, robbed, tortured and beaten into medical curiousities left beside the tracks, who will cross into a hostile country whose language they do not know, and live in constant fear of being caught, all to feed their families and just maybe give them a better life in a better place—I think they deserve other than utter contempt.” End. Fred

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  459. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 12:53 am #

    Bernanke and Draghi’s idiotic policies are very much administering endless courses of chemo to a stage four cancer patient.

    Yo, E., dreck dog here.
    You are missing the point on two counts with this metaphor.
    First, just as every person and every cancer is different, requiring individualized treatment, so is every economy. You generalize so much your comments are mostly meaningless (“IT’S CRUNCH TIME!” was your comment in Nov. 2011).
    Second, the decision of each individual is their decision to make, not yours, just as the decision of each country’s economic advisers has the right and the duty to make the decisions it sees fit; you do not have that right.
    Third, once a decision is made for cancer treatment, the outcome is never as assured as you make it sound. Stage four cancer does not equal a death sentence. Likewise, muddling through, regardless of the method chosen, has the possibility of success … a possibility you seem unable to acknowledge.
    Fourth, the facts go against you consistent pessimism. It is not “CRUNCH TIME” as you continually assert. You have a habit of being alarmist. If you were right, we would have “CRUNCHED” last year, or the year before, or the year before that … but we didn’t and we won’t.
    Why won’t there be a CRUNCH? Because “kick-the-can” strategies will buy time … not years of time, but decades of time. You cannot accept that either because you deny humanity’s ability to innovate, to create, to apply rationality, and to thrive. You like to deny positive change.
    For example, you like to cite the U6 unemployment figure because it is a “big” number, but you refuse to acknowledge that in the last two years the U6 rate has gone down from 16% to 14%. You cannot admit things are getting better.
    You refuse to admit that manufacturing and employment in the private sector is improving, or that manufacturing is returning from China to the USA, among a host of other data you conveniently ignore. Even faced with objective facts, you will not admit things are getting better because your misanthropic attitude will not allow it.
    I like you as a person, E. and I am happy you are enjoying retirement, in spite of the dark-skinned hordes.
    But your predictions never turn out to be true. You seem to think things are going down hill, when the truth is that things always go up and down, then up, then down, then up, then down, in a never ending cycle. Deal with it. Stop being such an alarmist. Things are now going up.

  460. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 1:08 am #

    Hey Pal, remember this noteable quote? If not ill refresh yr memory:
    “You’re just a dumb liberal waster, another cookie-cutter blog doofus who has nothing better to do than write a thousand posts.
    Just because you’re a newbie we “owe” you bupkus.”
    Upthread [before T mentioned that this weeks thread had devolved into racial stuff] I was irked that Mr A had played his ‘blacks dont get welfare’ or whatever he posted.
    I believe months ago he played the same card, and someone [you?] posted the facts. Thats why I mentioned welfare/ blacks here, to counter MrA.
    Then Mudd Mike accused me of ‘pulling numbers out of my ass’. On and on it goes.
    Cheers.

  461. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 1:10 am #

    Illegals don’t take jobs from Americans.
    The word “illegals” that Fred uses is offensive and racist, for reasons I explained in a previous post. Human beings cannot be “illegal.”
    The word “Americans” that Fred uses is offensive and racist. Mexicans are North Americans. The whole damn hemisphere is “American” (consisting of North America, Central America and South America) where “Americans” live. Believe me, people in South American find it offensive that they are not considered “Americans.”
    This land called the United States of America belongs equally to all Americans. The USA illegally took the whole southwest from Mexico. The reconquista is about taking it back from the USA, but doing so nonviolently, not at the point of a gun.
    Fred also shows his ignorance when he says: “conservative patriotic busnessmen [sic] block attempts to restrict immigration.”
    WTF! As many on CFN continually point out, conservative politicians like Reagan and Bush (and that DLC moderate Democrat, Clinton, with NAFTA) were the ones who opened the borders and gave amnesty to “illegals” and I think they had the interests of the “patriotic businessmen” at heart when they did so.
    Fred is both an idiot and a racist. The more you guys actually quote his words here, the more it is confirmed.

  462. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 1:10 am #

    Fred is offensive.
    ==========
    Perhaps, but he is NOT full of shit.
    Just one time, Asoka, you should consider that someone like Fred is making valid points about black culture. Once you have accepted that validity, harsh and offensive as you may find it, you should go back into the black “community” and help your brothers and sisters assimilate into the dominant culture. What is the sense of doing otherwise?

  463. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 1:12 am #

    Yes BUT, with the other services the packages get there. Its a case of getting what you pay for. [pun intended]
    Fed Ex [already expensive]also has added a ‘gas surcharge’!!!
    As far as ‘biased news sources’, I think the most bias is coming from the Whitehouse. I dont trust anything BHO says or does.
    My fav moment of all his gaffes is his ‘Freudian’; slip where he admitted hes Muslim.

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  464. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 1:14 am #

    Yes, I guess email is so ‘for us folks over 40’.
    I dont text or tweet.

  465. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 1:16 am #

    ‘Fred is pathetic’, uh no, you are.

  466. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 1:16 am #

    Q., do a thought experiment. Suppose somebody comes to the USA and captures and enslaves you and takes you to some Middle East country or Asian country to be forced to work. Your family is ripped apart, you are mistreated, and this goes on for hundreds of years. Since you don’t speak Arabic or Chinese or whatever you find yourself behind the curve in many ways.
    Then some asshole comes along and says: “Q. you are not trying hard enough to assimilate. You need to accept our dominant culture. Then you go into your American white slave community and help your brothers and sisters assimilate.” I wouldn’t be surprised if your response might be: “FUCK YOU!”

  467. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 1:21 am #

    But, since you seem to know everything, No thats you.

  468. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 1:24 am #

    ‘Fred is pathetic’, uh no, you are.
    Yes, anti soak, Fred and I are both pathetic.
    We both share an appeal to pathos. Pathos just means persuading by appealing to the reader’s emotions.
    Fred and I are both guilty of that. It is simply a rhetorical device which the Greek philosopher Aristotle discussed as one of the three means of persuasion: Ethos, Pathos, Logos.
    Very perceptive of you to notice, anti soak!
    Good job!

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  469. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 1:26 am #

    Hey, “knowing everything” is my schtick!

  470. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 1:28 am #

    I like you as a person
    ===========
    One of the most meaningless expressions uttered by mankind. The essence of sticky sweet political correctness.

  471. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 1:36 am #

    My fav moment of all his gaffes is his ‘Freudian’; slip where he admitted hes Muslim.
    Obama is a Christian, but what if he was Muslim? Is that supposed to be a bad thing? You can be a Muslim and be President of the United States. Nothing in the Constitution prohibits it, because we do have freedom of religion in the USA.
    We also have Muslims elected to public office in the USA and they are doing a good job. It is perfectly legal for Muslims to serve in government and for Muslims to establish mosques and businesses and to contribute to the private sector as well.
    Muslims are patriotic Americans. Muslims are good people.

  472. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 1:48 am #

    “I like you as a person” means I respect you as who you are. I respect all human beings as they are.
    We may have differences of opinion, but I hold you in high regard as a person. A human life that is spent merely sleeping, eating, and procreating is no better than the life of an animal. But when a person takes the time to post to CFN and engage Asoka, what’s not to like?
    Thanks, Q., for your comment.

  473. Iona Laundramat August 3, 2012 at 2:42 am #

    Soake,
    You did well there for awhile, averaging about 3 posts a day. But like a dog returning to its vomit you’ve come back with a vengeance. Meditate more and deeper! Meditation is the seed, God is the flower. Don’t waste your time in this room full of mirrors. I’ll know you’re meditating more successfully when you’re again posting considerably less.
    Best,
    Iona

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  474. BeingThere August 3, 2012 at 7:48 am #

    Agreed, E.
    Although I’m a Keynesian and a progressive, who also btw likes Veblen, I have to admit that in this phase of a non-producing (service) globalist economy, Keynes may not work.
    That doesn’t mean I will ever like neoliberalism, it just means I recognize that this isn’t going to work. The backdrop as we all know is the Peak oil scenario working it’s “magic” on us all.
    I contacted a friend who lives in India to ask how the blackout effected her and she lives in Goa which did not experience any problems, but she said her country is rapidly changing in ways that we complain about here. She said they are losing their way of life.
    I said, that’s our gift to the world, flattening the world to make it safe for McDonald’s. That’s globalism.

  475. progress4spam August 3, 2012 at 8:54 am #

    “…like a dog returning to its vomit you’ve come back….”
    -I on a, to a sok a –
    Asoka..vomit-reduction was nice while it lasted, though, we should all admit. (except you, dee)
    Maybe we should ask JHK to give us the “chinese spam” back, as a more sensible alternative.

  476. progress4spam August 3, 2012 at 9:18 am #

    I have a question.
    Asoka..may only seem incredibly annoying – to many of us on CFN, accustomed as we are to using standard logic to advance discussions and solve problems.
    But asoka..’s use of the loaded word “Racist” to label his those with whom he disagrees –
    Is Standard Operating Procedure for the Black/Brown grievance coalitions in the US.
    It’s pernicious, on a national level.
    And it results in a spiraling circle-jerk of politicians and media persons who will avoid the truth because of their fear of the label “racist.”
    So, the question is –
    Why is this such an effective strategy, on a national and regional level?

  477. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 10:26 am #

    …to ask how the blackout effected her
    ================
    Groan.

  478. mistified August 3, 2012 at 10:33 am #

    “You mad or just drinking too much coffee today, OEO? Take a chill pill.”
    Wow, a brilliant rejoinder. Truly, monumentally (with an emphasis on the “mentally” portion of the word) brilliant.

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  479. Widespreadpanic7 August 3, 2012 at 10:41 am #

    Hey P2C, Asoka is about as black as you & I are!
    He throws down that racist label as a provocation … to bust your balls and get a rise out of you.
    It works every time.
    –WSP7

  480. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 10:43 am #

    anti,
    The USPS if VERY efficient. I do not recall the last time they missed delivering a bill or magazine, and of course all of that wonderful junk mail. Without the USPS the whole direct mail industry would end.
    I heard Obama say that the sun was going to come up this morning. I guess that bright thing in the sky is an illusion.
    Yes, the White House lies, but if a Democrat is in the White House, we hear over and over again from the Repuke echo chamber. When W lied us into war, most Democrats sat on their hands.

  481. mistified August 3, 2012 at 10:44 am #

    “If you love free enterprise so much, try to send ANYTHING, ANYWHERE for less than $0.50 using Fedex, UPS or any other private company.”
    This merely demonstrates what imbeciles libtards prove themselves to be. Of course private enterprise cannot send your “ANYTHING” “ANYWHERE” for less than $0.50. Neither can the U.S. postal service. The true cost is a much, much higher, subsidized figure. But it is hidden from MORONS such as yourself. Because if the true cost was revealed, idiots, like you, would say, “Wait a minute. It costs HOW MUCH for me to send a letter?”
    You are too stupid to include the hidden costs in the “bargains” provided by our corrupt, inefficient, government services. Even when it is revealed that they are bankrupt. “Give them more money.”, you bleat. Really? They haven’t pissed away enough? You want to give them more?

  482. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 10:46 am #

    anti,
    It may seem so to you, but I don’t know everything. I do know what I don’t know, and either don’t comment, or I look it up on the internets. You should try it some time.
    Note: you never see me commenting on Eastern religions, because I know little about them.
    For those who are interested in Eastern religion, you might want to check out Thom Hartmann, who has apparently studied several non-western religions.

  483. mistified August 3, 2012 at 10:50 am #

    Wrong again. (Huge surprise)
    “It’s an urban legend that the government launched the Internet. The myth is that the Pentagon created the Internet to keep its communications lines up even in a nuclear strike. The truth is a more interesting story about how innovation happens—and about how hard it is to build successful technology companies even once the government gets out of the way.
    For many technologists, the idea of the Internet traces to Vannevar Bush, the presidential science adviser during World War II who oversaw the development of radar and the Manhattan Project. In a 1946 article in The Atlantic titled “As We May Think,” Bush defined an ambitious peacetime goal for technologists: Build what he called a “memex” through which “wholly new forms of encyclopedias will appear, ready made with a mesh of associative trails running through them, ready to be dropped into the memex and there amplified.”
    That fired imaginations, and by the 1960s technologists were trying to connect separate physical communications networks into one global network—a “world-wide web.” The federal government was involved, modestly, via the Pentagon’s Advanced Research Projects Agency Network. Its goal was not maintaining communications during a nuclear attack, and it didn’t build the Internet. Robert Taylor, who ran the ARPA program in the 1960s, sent an email to fellow technologists in 2004 setting the record straight: “The creation of the Arpanet was not motivated by considerations of war. The Arpanet was not an Internet. An Internet is a connection between two or more computer networks.”
    If the government didn’t invent the Internet, who did? Vinton Cerf developed the TCP/IP protocol, the Internet’s backbone, and Tim Berners-Lee gets credit for hyperlinks.
    But full credit goes to the company where Mr. Taylor worked after leaving ARPA: Xerox. It was at the Xerox PARC labs in Silicon Valley in the 1970s that the Ethernet was developed to link different computer networks. Researchers there also developed the first personal computer (the Xerox Alto) and the graphical user interface that still drives computer usage today.
    According to a book about Xerox PARC, “Dealers of Lightning” (by Michael Hiltzik), its top researchers realized they couldn’t wait for the government to connect different networks, so would have to do it themselves. “We have a more immediate problem than they do,” Robert Metcalfe told his colleague John Shoch in 1973. “We have more networks than they do.” Mr. Shoch later recalled that ARPA staffers “were working under government funding and university contracts. They had contract administrators . . . and all that slow, lugubrious behavior to contend with.”
    So having created the Internet, why didn’t Xerox become the biggest company in the world? The answer explains the disconnect between a government-led view of business and how innovation actually happens.
    Executives at Xerox headquarters in Rochester, N.Y., were focused on selling copiers. From their standpoint, the Ethernet was important only so that people in an office could link computers to share a copier. Then, in 1979, Steve Jobs negotiated an agreement whereby Xerox’s venture-capital division invested $1 million in Apple, with the requirement that Jobs get a full briefing on all the Xerox PARC innovations. “They just had no idea what they had,” Jobs later said, after launching hugely profitable Apple computers using concepts developed by Xerox.
    Xerox’s copier business was lucrative for decades, but the company eventually had years of losses during the digital revolution. Xerox managers can console themselves that it’s rare for a company to make the transition from one technology era to another.
    As for the government’s role, the Internet was fully privatized in 1995, when a remaining piece of the network run by the National Science Foundation was closed—just as the commercial Web began to boom. Blogger Brian Carnell wrote in 1999: “The Internet, in fact, reaffirms the basic free market critique of large government. Here for 30 years the government had an immensely useful protocol for transferring information, TCP/IP, but it languished. . . . In less than a decade, private concerns have taken that protocol and created one of the most important technological revolutions of the millennia.”
    Not quip your lap dog yapping. You are a bore and a MORON.

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  484. Widespreadpanic7 August 3, 2012 at 10:50 am #

    P2C, are you Southerners a little thin skinned?
    Earlier in the summer I read ‘Pen of Fire, (the life of) John Moncure Daniel’. He was a diplomat and newspaper editor in Richmond during the Civil War. Every insult, accusation and slight was met with a duel employing pistols. Nothing was forgiven or laughed off. This seems to be a peculiarly southern trait.
    –WSP7

  485. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 10:53 am #

    anti,
    YOU DID pull the “number” of adult blacks out of your ass! Had you spent a minute or two with the Google you could have found the actual number!
    Of course it came from the Census Bureau, and you don’t trust those commie,atheist fascist terrorists, so you wouldn’t believe it.

  486. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 10:55 am #

    Q,
    She was created by the blackout, therefore effect is the proper term! ;>)

  487. progress4spam August 3, 2012 at 10:59 am #

    “He throws down that racist label as a provocation … to bust your balls and get a rise out of you.
    It works every time.”
    -wsp, concerning a sok..”
    Yeah, I get that, WSP.
    But I’m just one guy on one internet thread.
    WHY is the charge of “racism” so effective at shutting down productive or truthful discussion on a national or regional level?
    That’s my real question.
    ===========================
    Now, crazy horse, dee jones, mudmike, and asoka.will now all label me as “racist,” for even posing the question.
    That means they don’t – in their own PC minds – have to consider the question to be “worthy.”
    It does NOT answer the question, though.

  488. mistified August 3, 2012 at 11:00 am #

    “Human beings cannot be “illegal.””
    Can they engage in illegal activities, Fucktard? (Of course we know the answer. 20 million have entered our country illegally. Call them God’s Chosen Flowers if you wish but that does not discount their illegal presence.)

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  489. mistified August 3, 2012 at 11:02 am #

    “Without the USPS the whole direct mail industry would end.”
    No it wouldn’t. The private sector would fill the vacuum.

  490. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 11:03 am #

    mis,
    Direct federal subsidies to the USPS were ended in the early 80’s.
    They don’t pay property taxes, vehicle registration and sales tax, but that doesn’t come close to several dollars per letter that you imply.
    The USPS has several advantages though:
    No multimillion dollar executive salaries.
    Huge volume.
    No investors sucking off profits.

  491. mistified August 3, 2012 at 11:07 am #

    “Obama is a Christian, but what if he was Muslim? Is that supposed to be a bad thing?”
    If he is lying about it, yes. That would be a bad thing. Lying about what you believe, who you are, and what you stand for, merely to get elected is wrong. Why? Because voters are being misled. End. Of. Story.

  492. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 11:07 am #

    mis,
    “You are too stupid to include the hidden costs in the “bargains” provided by our corrupt, inefficient, government services. Even when it is revealed that they are bankrupt. “Give them more money.”, you bleat. Really? They haven’t pissed away enough? You want to give them more?”
    I never said to give the USPS more money. I just said that they should not be held to a standard that no other company or agency has ever been.
    What company has paid for 75 years of retiree health care?
    I eagerly await your reply.

  493. mistified August 3, 2012 at 11:16 am #

    “I eagerly await your reply.”
    May I suggest you eagerly go get a job instead?
    Try the post office. Carriers are paid up to $61,596.00. Customer Service Supervisors up to $70,730.00. What a bargain!

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  494. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 11:22 am #

    Why is this such an effective strategy, on a national and regional level?
    =============
    Because, over time, we have tied ourselves in knots with an ever-growing government that we have come to believe can solve all our problems.
    The fact is, government can solve very few of society’s problems and is, rather, the source of them, not the cure. The meddling of a giant, corrupt, lumbering, and ponderous government waters and fertilizes the very ills that it purportedly sets out to cure. How can anyone believe otherwise. One need only open their eyes to see it.
    The plight of blacks in America and the endless and fruitless government imposed efforts to effect a cure is a perfect example. Fred has explained this masterfully. Asoka does not buy this obvious and logical line of reasoning. He can’t because he is like an old Church eminence who has constructed a physics based on the obvious fact that the world is flat. To admit otherwise would destroy in an instant a mental structure he has been building, refining, and polishing over the course of a lifetime.

  495. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 11:43 am #

    Try the post office. Carriers are paid up to $61,596.00. Customer Service Supervisors up to $70,730.00. What a bargain!
    TERRORS, workers who are paid a decent wage!
    Also, you still haven’t read my post! The problems with the post office is mainly due to having to set aside almost $40 billion dollars for retirement health care for the unborn that no other entity would have been required to do.

  496. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 11:49 am #

    Not quip your lap dog yapping.
    ============
    Now quit
    Good post Misty. I sincerely wish you hadn’t fucked up those two words…and so close to the end too.

  497. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 11:50 am #

    mis,
    I do have a job, and it pays me better than letter carriers, so I don’t have to envy them like some apparently do. Also, my job doesn’t require me to be out in all types of weather, or carry heavy loads all of the time.
    It even allows me a few minutes to use the fast internet connection I am one now.

  498. mistified August 3, 2012 at 11:54 am #

    “The problems with the post office is mainly due to having to set aside almost $40 billion dollars for retirement health care for the unborn…”
    Facts please. How are they paying for the unborn. Facts. I’ll wait.

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  499. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 11:58 am #

    …the fast internet connection I am one now.
    ==============
    Groan.

  500. mistified August 3, 2012 at 11:59 am #

    ” I sincerely wish you hadn’t fucked up those two words…and so close to the end too.”
    Like I care. An accountants curse. Dotted i’s, crossed t’s. And the big picture? There is no big picture. Cubicle thinking, punctuated by rat-mazed minds.
    What a glorious contribution to our splendiferous civilization.

  501. mistified August 3, 2012 at 12:01 pm #

    “…the fast internet connection I am one now.
    ==============
    Groan.”
    Groan that you go on and on and on…yet contribute very little.

  502. daytrip August 3, 2012 at 12:02 pm #

    “Illegals don’t take jobs from Americans. Americans give them the jobs.”
    This is a true enough statement. It’s our fault…somebody’s fault. Probably not the fault of those whose wages have been driven to poverty level by the competition….whites, blacks, browns, etc., and this is true of any illegal competition from any non-authorized uncitizen of any color, creed, religion, origin. I think if lawyers, politicians, and teachers, etc. were having to compete with these folks, they’d be squawking a bit about it, too. I had a friend who was driven out of the roofing business near Vail; he couldn’t compete with folks living 10 deep in a trailer home. He just couldn’t do it. Plus, they are effective workers, though I’ve seen alot of poor work that they’ve done, too. I had a fence blow down when I lived in suburban Boulder. Several of the posts were cleverly cut at ground level, they didn’t set them into the ground!! Now, that’s clever. Right up there with poisonous Chinese drywall. Oh, so fucking clever. Somebody made out, it wasn’t the end consumer of the “product”, maybe the contractor.
    The word “Americans” that Fred uses is offensive and racist.
    Wow.
    The reconquista is about taking it back from the USA, but doing so nonviolently, not at the point of a gun.
    The “Westword” in Denver has a column called “Ask a Mexican”. A recent quote from there: “What we couldn’t take over with guns, we are taking over with our peckers.” Fred-like common language truth there.
    Fred also shows his ignorance when he says: “conservative patriotic busnessmen [sic] block attempts to restrict immigration.”
    Read that sentence again. He’s saying they “block attempts to restrict.” You’re making his point. He’s being facetious when he calls them ‘patriotic’, see one his two most recent posts. He says these guys are patriotic when there’s money to be made.
    As far as illegal. One story. At Red Rocks, they no longer allow you to to hike behind the amphitheater and listen to the shows. I found this out a few weeks ago. I went anyway, because, hey, I’ve been doing it for years. I hiked around in the dark, expecting to run into fifty or so fellow listeners and hikers, and partiers, but I think I saw about 5 people. One of them and I sat and listened and had a good time, but we were both saddened that it had come to this. Apparently several people die each year in the park, falling off rocks, etc. We met a fellow who was there one night that such a tragedy occurred behind the venue, where we were hanging out. Ok, I understand why they closed the trail and why they would shine their lights on us. At that point, being beyond the fence where it said “no trespassing”, I was illegal. I was not authorized to be there, the park has the jurisdiction to say so. It’s their land. I could’ve gotten a ticket. I’m sure they’ll enforce that more in the future, but now they’re going through the phase of people, stunned, saying the equivalent of “no shit, really? I’ve been enjoying this park this way for decades.”… Well. Do they have the right to keep me out of there? I suppose they do. Whether or not I agree with the logic, I am in no position to say that I’m not eligible for a ticket of some sort. I admit, for that 2 hours or so of listening to String Cheese Incident in a parklike setting, I was illegal. Once I got on the other side of that fence again, I wasn’t illegal. Fucking brilliant.

  503. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 12:04 pm #

    That is correct, I am hardwired into the internet!

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  504. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 12:11 pm #

    The problems with the post office is mainly due…
    ==============
    Groan. Make up your mind, singular or plural.
    You get two choices…take your pick:
    . problems…..are
    . problem…..is

  505. mistified August 3, 2012 at 12:15 pm #

    “The problems with the post office is mainly due…
    ==============
    Groan. Make up your mind, singular or plural.
    You get two choices…take your pick:
    . problems…..are
    . problem…..is”
    Problem is you are an asshole. Your anal tendencies, regarding language, prove this point.

  506. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 12:28 pm #

    Problem is you are an asshole.
    ===========
    Very good…consistently singular.
    BTW, how’s that “higher price point” Ford stock doing……as if I didn’t know.;0)

  507. newworld August 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm #

    It is a new day Asoka. Whites are breaking thru the censorship we whites will talk about what is good for whites in the days and years ahead.
    Its glorious IMO and all you anti-whties have is hatred and yet more hatred as you try and censor us one way or another, and that will fail.
    Poll of all the anti-whites here, Should it be allowable for whites to discuss what is good for whites?

  508. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 12:36 pm #

    What a glorious contribution to our splendiferous civilization.
    ===========
    Surely, I don’t deserve such effusive praise.

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  509. mistified August 3, 2012 at 12:36 pm #

    “Problem is you are an asshole.
    ===========
    Very good…consistently singular.”
    Very good…consistently anal. Now wipe and repeat…ad infinitum.

  510. Jam47 August 3, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    Am I the only one here to have taken note of Gore Vidal’s passing? There is much comment on this site about America’s imperialistic ways. Well, Vidal was railing against American imperialism before many of us were born. And he did it with more panache and elegance than anyone. A great stylist who wrote about an enormous range of subjects. He entertained and instructed many, including me.

  511. mistified August 3, 2012 at 12:38 pm #

    “Surely, I don’t deserve such effusive praise.”
    For your consistent, tremendous, insightful contributions? Of course you do.

  512. mistified August 3, 2012 at 12:42 pm #

    “Am I the only one here to have taken note of Gore Vidal’s passing? ”
    It would appear so.

  513. mistified August 3, 2012 at 12:50 pm #

    “No investors sucking off profits.”
    What a MORON. Investors invest in the hope of achieving a profit. Otherwise, why would they invest?
    Are you really this stupid are are you merely posing as a stupid person?

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  514. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 1:01 pm #

    Am I the only one here to have taken note of Gore Vidal’s passing?
    ===========
    No, Jam, you are not the only one. Yesterday I was sitting by the Rutgers pool reading a couple of NY Times articles about Vidal. His verbal battles with Buckley, Mailer and others were classic. Vidal called Buckley a “crypto-nazi” and Buckley called him a “queer.” (All this on national TV.) Vidal shot back another insult and Buckley, in his best patrician manner, said “I’m going to sock you in the face.”
    Well, I’m sitting there on my chaise lounge reading this and laughing my ass off when I glimpse the guy two chairs away (probably with a doctorate in sociology) staring at me as if he thought I was demented.

  515. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 1:11 pm #

    Are you really this stupid are are you merely posing as a stupid person?
    ===========
    I think Mudd is merely posing but I’m beginning to wonder about YOU.
    Are the words or and are pronounced the same where you come from?

  516. mistified August 3, 2012 at 1:12 pm #

    “Well, I’m sitting there on my chaise lounge reading this and laughing my ass off…”
    I saw the Buckley clips. They weren’t “laughing your ass off” material. Unless you are demented.
    Apparently your chaise neighbor is a good judge of character. With or without a doctorate in sociology. And why you would attribute to him any type of degree in any discipline merely highlights your delusional mindset. (Not that there is anything wrong with that.)

  517. Rhino August 3, 2012 at 1:13 pm #

    You really go off when I mention the height of Northern Europeans. – Vlad
    I’m actually indifferent. Seems to me that Nazi racial theorists made a big deal about the height of northern Europeans and also eye and hair color. Same with modern white racists.
    You must be a short south Italian. – Vlad
    I am neither.
    Loyalty to the West means loyalty to the White Race. – Vlad
    I don’t see it that way. Mere skin color in my view is of no consequence aside from providing cover from UV radiation. IMO the “West” is a complex of ideas/traditions/attitudes/behaviors that took shape over many centuries. Which couldn’t have happened without a great deal of input from non-European and non “Western” peoples.
    Christianity for example is central to what the “West” is but from what I’ve read neither Christianity nor its writings in the New Testament nor its predecessor the Hebrew Bible were creations of “Western” peoples.
    Many short men have an inferiority complex – the pugnacity of the short man is legendary. – Vlad
    I’ve heard the same thing. I’ve read that the Japanese soldier in WW2 was just a jot over 5 feet tall. I’ve also read that the Huns also were rather small. Pugnacious lot they all were. No doubt stemming from feelings of self doubt.

  518. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 1:21 pm #

    For your consistent, tremendous, insightful contributions? Of course you do.
    ==========
    Well then, what can I say but, thank you.

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  519. mistified August 3, 2012 at 1:24 pm #

    Kyoo-Kyoo,
    You’ll appreciate this. These morons think like you.
    Enjoy:
    “The White House is really getting specific when it comes to the unemployment rate.
    Rather than 8.3% — the rounded-up figure — Obama economic adviser Alan B. Krueger writes on the White House website that the real jobless rate is 8.254%.”

  520. mistified August 3, 2012 at 1:26 pm #

    “For your consistent, tremendous, insightful contributions? Of course you do.
    ==========
    Well then, what can I say but, thank you.”
    You’re quite welcome. I guess you found a pony under all the poo. How wonderful.

  521. Jam47 August 3, 2012 at 1:35 pm #

    We in the West are intelligence worshippers, and I understand why. Individually, we need intelligence to survive and to prosper. On the larger scale, we’ve used intelligence to create our civilization. But as our civilization is now turning on us, we seem to be using our intelligence mainly to fight of its assaults.
    The volume of the human brain is 1400 cc, on average. A brain half that size would have served us better. With a 750 cc brain, we’d still be living as early pre-humans did in Africa. After spending a mere couple of hours gathering food, we could take the rest of the day off and sit under the trees watching the giraffe go by. But no, we had to make ourselves brainy and go out and start building a hell. And now we have one.
    Think of intelligence as a shovel and of civilization as a hole. We’re trying to dig ourselves out of the hole with the very instrument we used to dig the hole in the first place. One of God’s jokes.
    Witticisms if you like, but not the obvious ones.

  522. convtlck79 August 3, 2012 at 1:39 pm #

    polo ralph lauren donna
    Carl Krull
    Carl Krull

  523. Vlad Krandz August 3, 2012 at 1:58 pm #

    The animals are unconscious imperfection. The gods are conscious perfection. Man is conscious imperfection. That we can go against Nature show the seed of our ultimate perfection.

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  524. Vlad Krandz August 3, 2012 at 2:01 pm #

    Please avail yourself of the results of this study – it is conclusive. At the very least it will make you a better opponent. If you really get it, the debate will be over since you will concede.
    http://www.amren.com/features/2012/07/science-versus-ideology/

  525. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 2:01 pm #

    You’ll appreciate this………..Rather than 8.3% — the rounded-up figure — Obama economic adviser Alan B. Krueger writes on the White House website that the real jobless rate is 8.254%.”
    ============
    I DO appreciate it. It is perfectly understandable to me that this poor govt schlubb found himself in something of a dilemma knowing as he does how the public, and especially Wall St, hangs on every tenth of a percent. And being a member of the current Administration in an election year I’m sure he was leery of painting too negative a picture by showing a full .1% rise. If he was smart he would express these very ideas with a smile and a wink (about why he was shifting to 3 decimals from 1 decimal) and suggest, self-deprecatingly, as the flawed political animal that circumstances forced him to be, that if the figure had been 8.246 he might have announced the rate was unchanged at 8.2.
    But all that is asking for too much honesty from a politico.

  526. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 2:09 pm #

    The volume of the human brain is 1400 cc, on average. A brain half that size would have served us better. With a 750 cc brain, we’d still be living as early pre-humans did in Africa.
    ============
    Should I infer from this^ that you think 750 is half of 1400?

  527. Vlad Krandz August 3, 2012 at 2:21 pm #

    You like Gabby or are you just poking a stick at me? Hope you didn’t sell that T Girl for 36… You wont have anything left for Gab’s College Fund.

  528. Vlad Krandz August 3, 2012 at 2:23 pm #

    Strain the minnow and swallow the whale as RINO said.
    Cat are like Rosebushes – all petals and thorns.

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  529. turkle August 3, 2012 at 2:25 pm #

    Ethernet is NOT the internet. Who is the moron again?
    Here are several precursors to our modern internet in all its Web 2.0 glory…
    Merit Network: Operates the longest running regional computer network in the US. Formed as a non-profit by three state universities.
    ARPANET: The world’s first operational packet switching network. Funded by DARPA of US DoD. It was based on designs by Lawrence Roberts of the government Lincoln Laboratory.
    CYCLADES: Early packet switching network operated by the French government.
    etc.
    I could go on but you can just look at the “History of the Internet” page on Wikipedia if you need more info to debunk your asinine conclusion that the private sector invented the internet.

  530. Vlad Krandz August 3, 2012 at 2:27 pm #

    Asoka levied a very heavy charge at you – ending sentences with smileys. How do you plead?
    All such schlubs should be put out into the fields to pick crops once the illegals are legally back in Mexico.

  531. turkle August 3, 2012 at 2:28 pm #

    Hey what’s 50 cc of brain mass between friends? (*wink wink* *nudge nudge*)

  532. k-dog August 3, 2012 at 2:29 pm #

    “As I see it, the government saved the US private economy’s bacon recently with the multi-trillion dollar bailout.”
    As long as the private sector can drink from the social trough whenever they are thirsty, then tyranny will be upon us.

  533. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 2:33 pm #

    A new jersey.
    Is that what this blog has degenerated to????

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  534. turkle August 3, 2012 at 2:34 pm #

    How ironic that someone who has been banned about 25 times from this blog would question the value and merit of other people’s posts (through sarcasm I guess). Apparently, Jimbo and other readers really don’t think you’re adding anything at all here of value, to the point where you are forcibly prevented from logging in and your posts removed and kicked down the memory hole. Too bad, so sad. Does it make you depressed when all your hard work of trolling is for naught? Pot/kettle/black. Now please go crawl back under whatever virtual rock it is that you slithered out from under.
    And how do I know it is you, OEO/notTheMama/etc.?
    I’ll quote Star Wars. “I recognized your foul stench.”

  535. Vlad Krandz August 3, 2012 at 2:37 pm #

    He was a great opponent of the Jewish Dominance of America – in both politics, literature, and the media.
    One of the few members of the Establishment willing to say publicly that FDR knew about the Japanese Fleet approaching Pearl Harbor yet did nothing. Ditto Bush and 9/11 – just to serve their political agenda.
    Say openly and repeatedly that the Gay Establishment wanted to destroy America – even though he was Gay.
    Called Midge Decter and her husband Podheretz – Israeli Fifth Columnists.

  536. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 2:38 pm #

    I consider TH OK on ‘Green Themes’. I read his LHOAS. The first 120 pages were good, the rest a joke!
    His ‘solutions’ including [get this] buying more copies of his books. and as a ‘typical hippie’ he just loves us Native Americans.

  537. k-dog August 3, 2012 at 2:42 pm #

    To conclude the private sector invented the internet is utterly asinine. Public funds sponsor high tech which is then transferred to the private sector where patents then establish legal but bogus ownership. Large software monopolies spend millions successfully convincing the public that they ‘own’ intellectual property developed on the public dime. It is another form of the invisible hand of the market and the tyranny of the 1%.
    Chomsky has expounded extensively on the process.

  538. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 2:43 pm #

    ‘In Jalisco, where I live in Mexico, remittances from migrants are a crucial part of the economy.’
    As it is Nationally there.
    Mexicos Big Three Industries:
    Narcotics
    Oil
    US Greenbacks.

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  539. turkle August 3, 2012 at 2:47 pm #

    I know. It is a messed up system. But if the government had not stepped in during this last financial crisis, it is likely the situation would have gotten out of hand and been much worse. It is hard to prove a negative, such as, “The government prevented Great Depression II.” But there is a solid argument to be made along those lines, that the Fed prevented a cascade of bank failures that would have collapsed most of the US financial sector basically overnight. I read an article in Atlantic to this effect, which argued that Bernanke is a hero. I wouldn’t go that far, but I also don’t think he was being purely pernicious or deceitful with the bank bailouts. It would not have been good for the US as a whole if Citigroup or other mega-banks had simply been allowed to collapse in disarray.
    I’ve read some convincing articles that argue derivatives are at the core of the problem. These establish complex interdependencies between financial institutions that can unravel when reality ends up outside the bounds of the algorithmic models, which have certain built-in assumptions. They also depend upon ridiculous amounts of (sometimes very risky) leverage.
    For instance, a bank might have predicated its contracts on Lehman Brothers never going broke, as that institution was providing them with bond insurance. And, hey, guess what happened? Oops.
    Does that mean I support this system? Not really. But the “tough love” approach of just letting everything fail chaotically has historically been a real disaster, probably worse that the “medicine” of QE, bailouts, and the like.
    What’s the alternative? I’m all ears if you have ideas. From what I can tell, it probably would have been better to break apart the “too big to fail” institutions, along the lines of what occurred following the S&L crisis. The government took a much more active role at that time, whereas the response this time seems to have been throwing gobs of new money at the problem to fill the big black derivatives hole. After S&L, heads of financial institutions were forcibly replaced, banks were restructured, etc. so the government had a heavier hand. I think it worked better than just dumping a bunch of helicopter money on the problem.

  540. turkle August 3, 2012 at 2:49 pm #

    Well, yeah, that’s obvious. Look who I’m replying to! I probably shouldn’t even bother, ya know?

  541. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 2:51 pm #

    Yve been reading ‘our’ OEO for 3? years!!!
    And now you are beginning to wonder!!!
    Gees what a Fktrd you are turning into in yr old age. Lost yr edge, tiger?

  542. San Jose Mom 51 August 3, 2012 at 2:56 pm #

    More trouble in California…
    “Gov. Jerry Brown and state lawmakers in June approved a $91 billion budget that included $1.9 billion in expected tax revenue from Facebook employed striking it rich — a rare projection that helped stave off cuts to schools and programs for the sick, poor and disabled.”–SJ Mercury News, 8/3/12
    Now that Facebook is selling at half it’s IPO price, the chips are going to fall in a nasty way.
    At least our weather is good.

  543. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 3:00 pm #

    ‘The “Westword” in Denver has a column called “Ask a Mexican”. A recent quote from there: “What we couldn’t take over with guns, we are taking over with our peckers.” Fred-like common language truth there.’
    I believe its syndicated [its in the dreaded
    ‘LA Weekly’] and possibly on NPR.
    KCRW has ‘Pocho hour of power’, check it out if you can.

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  544. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 3:07 pm #

    Is yr friend someone born there or a white gal/guy?
    Might there be a connection from ‘things changing there’ and ‘the outside world’?
    I couldnt get Inet connection today, made the 800 call and, Voila, was talking to ‘krishnan’ or someone with a similar name.
    Was the first Mcdonalds there firebombed?
    Now I read, for the new riche in India, meat eating is chic.

  545. ovplofa241 August 3, 2012 at 3:08 pm #

    fred perry
    Adam Rowney
    Photographer/artist Adam Rowney obtained understanding obtained from their very own listening to. Carry on take a look at them apart if you’d like all you discover.
    .

  546. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 3:12 pm #

    Here is the more complete story on the jobless rate. I detect disingenuousness from both Dems and Repubs.
    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/08/wh-adviser-jobless-rate-is-really-8254/1

  547. k-dog August 3, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

    Snoopy had it easy, all he had to worry about was the Red Baron.
    K-Dog has to worry about Obama.
    Fucking Magic We Don’t Need
    Two links in one post would set the spam filter off so I quote the below instead of posting a link. It is from http://www.infowars.com/us-drones-kill-nearly-50-in-single-day/.

    US Drones Kill Nearly 50 in Single Day
    October 28, 2011
    Nearly fifty people have been killed in separate US assassination drone strikes in Somalia, Pakistan’s northwestern tribal region bordering Afghanistan and Yemen in a single day.
    On Thursday, 13 people were killed and several others were injured when the US military launched an attack using a remote-controlled unmanned aerial vehicle on the outskirts of Bilis Qooqaani town, which is located 448 kilometers (278 miles) southwest of the Somali capital Mogadishu.
    ……
    ……
    ……
    ……
    ……

    Vote for K-dog, vote for Mickey Mouse, whatever you do don’t vote for Obama or Romney.
    Please, I don’t want to spend all my days hiding under the bed. It sucks.

  548. turkle August 3, 2012 at 3:15 pm #

    The unemployment rate is bogus. Don’t they count out people who have become “discouraged” as if they aren’t actually part of the total number of people without jobs? Seems like statistical chicanery to me.

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  549. daytrip August 3, 2012 at 3:15 pm #

    I think I’ll pass.

  550. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    Poll of all the anti-whites here, Should it be allowable for whites to discuss what is good for whites?
    Dale has been absent of late. But we have ‘stud’, turk, and mudd.

  551. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 3:18 pm #

    How long did it take for JB to sign the ‘mini dream act’?

  552. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 3:24 pm #

    I’m not anti-white, I am pro-people.
    By the way, when I first wear shorts in the spring, people around me put on shades to protect from the pasty white glare.

  553. daytrip August 3, 2012 at 3:24 pm #

    I found the website, but my internet speed is not that fast. I get my connection through my new fancy cellphone, which makes streaming a bit of a pain.. It looks to be in a similar vein to Ask a Mexican. Maybe I’ll get around to it at some point. Thanks.

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  554. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 3:27 pm #

    I am totally fine with policies that help whites and don’t hurt other people

  555. mistified August 3, 2012 at 3:28 pm #

    “Hey what’s 50 cc of brain mass between friends? (*wink wink* *nudge nudge*)”
    As that is all you possess it is quite a bit.

  556. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 3:31 pm #

    I think OEO has been banned maybe 100+ times here.
    In fact, I think in those bygone ‘early days here’ he was being banned SEVERAL TIMES DAILY!!!
    I recall Jonny Rico commenting ‘youve been banned like 10x in the first 3 weeks of this blog’!
    [or some such]
    To any newbees here, Oeos latest ‘incarnation’ is as ‘misti’.

  557. k-dog August 3, 2012 at 3:32 pm #

    The article is lame.
    “Analysts said the (slightly) higher rate results from an increase in people re-entering the job market.”
    Distract people with numbers and ignore the human tragedies as usual. The arbitrary definition of who is unemployed or not should piss everybody off. It has always made me growl.

  558. turkle August 3, 2012 at 3:34 pm #

    Yeah, I have a 50 cc brain mass sitting on my desk right now. I’m going to have it for lunch with a nice Chianti.

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  559. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 3:37 pm #

    Apparently, …… other readers really don’t think you’re adding anything at all here of value,
    =============
    Disagree Turk. I think Misty delivers the conservative viewpoint better than just about anybody on this blog and his putdowns and insults are hilarious.

  560. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 3:38 pm #

    At least ‘they’ are consistent.
    ‘They’ also jigger the CPI.

  561. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 3:41 pm #

    Go to Shadow Government Statistics to learn a fair amount about the numbers the gov. feeds us.
    http://www.shadowstats.com/
    Q,
    “Here is the more complete story on the jobless rate. I detect disingenuousness from both Dems and Repubs.”
    Politicians being disingenuous? NEVER!

  562. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 3:41 pm #

    And he implied [from the talk I heard] that 911 was an inside job.

  563. mistified August 3, 2012 at 3:42 pm #

    “Yeah, I have a 50 cc brain mass sitting on my desk right now. I’m going to have it for lunch with a nice Chianti.”
    Have at it. I’m guessing at 00 cc’s your posts will make more sense.

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  564. turkle August 3, 2012 at 3:46 pm #

    You can discuss anything you want, soaky. I reserve the right to reply with snarky comments.
    Most sane people don’t spend all day dwelling on the supposed shortcomings of major ethnic groups, even if said musings happen to be fully or partly true. It seems like a way of deflecting blame or scapegoating, so that one’s own personal shortcomings are masked.
    In other words, Vlad has probably convinced himself that he doesn’t have a job because of affirmative action, rather than as a result of his, uh, rather unusual personal characteristics and beliefs, which I’ll decline from outlining.
    I have nothing against white people. I have a lot of white friends! (haha)
    Seriously, though, I’m like zombie white myself. I burn like a lobster in the summer sun.

  565. turkle August 3, 2012 at 3:50 pm #

    So I see you’ve dropped the discussion on which entities initially created the internet. Is that because you lost the argument? That’s fine. You should just admit it. Attaching your feelings of personal self-worth to internet discussions is perilous, in any case.
    I guess my 50 cc of brain power was sufficient enough to refute your usual garbage. That’s because my lil pea brain is turbocharged. It isn’t always the size that matters.

  566. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 3:52 pm #

    The article is lame.
    ===========
    The article? or the people and words quoted in the article?
    Should the govt dude responsible for calculating and reporting unemployment numbers NOT report those numbers but instead do an in depth interview and exposé of the sufferings of the unemployed and their families? [End of rhetorical question]

  567. rippedthunder August 3, 2012 at 3:58 pm #

    Hello Soak, just a stupid reply to the chinese spammer. Sorry if I off-ended U wit’ my bandwidth hoggishness. I am boared! Like a hog. Keep it on the sunny side bro!

  568. turkle August 3, 2012 at 4:11 pm #

    Hey Vlad, soaky, misty, and all the other lonely, depressed misanthropes here on CFN, you should check this out.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-08-01/chik-fil-a-appreciation-day-gay-marriage/56668468/1
    It could be a way for you to obtain some desperately needed human affection.

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  569. mistified August 3, 2012 at 4:15 pm #

    ” That’s because my lil pea brain is turbocharged. It isn’t always the size that matters.”
    Oooops, a “size doesn’t matter” advocate. Alrighty then; .}

  570. mistified August 3, 2012 at 4:20 pm #

    “That’s because my lil pea brain is turbocharged.”
    It may if fact be. Have you noticed the turbo unit seems to have seized?

  571. mistified August 3, 2012 at 4:25 pm #

    “It could be a way for you to obtain some desperately needed human affection.”
    Why don’t you love us? How hurtful. You’re kidding right? You do love us. You really, really do. (Puke, barf, kill self.)

  572. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 4:29 pm #

    The unemployment rate is bogus.
    ============
    There are all sorts of issues that come up when statistical data series are being compiled. Should a person working 20 hours a week be counted as half an unemployed person? What if he’s hanging out at the beach every afternoon and loves the time off to do it?
    My 90 year old m-i-l lives upstairs and hasn’t worked in 30 years. At what point, if ever, should the govt drop her from the rolls of the unemployed?
    I worked with numerous govt data series for 26 years and cannot honestly say I know of anything that could be called fraudulent. The main thing is for the govt to describe how a data series is calculated and stick with it for a long time. Only change calc methods when a new method is clearly more accurate/useful than the old method and then describe for users the new methodology and the rationale for the change. As far as I can tell, the govt does this.

  573. turkle August 3, 2012 at 4:32 pm #

    Perhaps rather than dwelling on the supposed size of my brain or whether other people on the internet are morons or f-tards (anyone who disagrees with you apparently), you should instead focus your energies on trying not to be a such a complete jerk all the time. If your online persona is any indication of your RL nature, then one can safely assume you’ve got some serious mental health issues related to anger management.
    Just a thought. I’m trying to be helpful here. I can sense your impotent male rage all the way across the internet, and I have some sympathy. Is that what you’re really looking for here, in a roundabout way?
    You might start by trying to detach yourself from whether or not you’re right and the other person is wrong, because, ultimately, it doesn’t matter.
    Here, I’ll start by writing a bunch of false statements.
    misty is actually a decent person in real life.
    Kyooshik is a Commie, liberal socialist.
    anti soak writes with perfect grammar.
    asoka lives in a mud hut.
    Vlad has a hot girlfriend.
    But I still feel okay about myself, even though I presented a bunch of easily-refuted falsehoods. Now you try.

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  574. turkle August 3, 2012 at 4:35 pm #

    There are other places on the internet where you can find, um, virtual love, misty. I don’t think you’re trying hard enough.

  575. turkle August 3, 2012 at 4:37 pm #

    I gotta admit, it is much more entertaining when you’re around. You’re a freakish, misanthropic troll, but at least you’re good at what you do.

  576. turkle August 3, 2012 at 4:38 pm #

    Damn, Q defending the government. I need to take a screenshot of this sh*t!

  577. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 4:48 pm #

    Public funds sponsor high tech which is then transferred to the private sector where patents then establish legal but bogus ownership.
    =================
    If I and hundreds of other citizens buy the bonds of XYZ Corp and XYZ Corp uses the money to fund an R&D project which results in the invention, patenting, and sale of GPS (Global Positioning System) gadgets, who should go down in the history books as the inventor of the GPS?: XYZ Corp or me and the other bond buyers? [End of rhetorical question]

  578. Jam47 August 3, 2012 at 4:49 pm #

    I know. 750 is half of the 1500 I THOUGHT I had written. The true figure is probably 1450. If not, someone is sure to tell me what is.

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  579. turkle August 3, 2012 at 5:01 pm #

    Um, I don’t get this post, Q, or at least the example you pick is confusing.
    The US government invented GPS, or more specifically the DoD did in order that it could have a reliable means of accurate navigation. But Uncle Sam doesn’t manufacture Garmins. Still, the company can’t claim to have invented it, because they didn’t perform the basic research. They’re utilizing a pre-existing technology that was essentially given away to industry for free or licensed at a pittance, which is something that happens all the time (it is called technology transfer). Just because some entity makes a profit doesn’t mean they solely originated whatever it is that makes them money.
    Am I missing a more subtle point you’re trying to make here?
    I don’t think anyone is saying (or at least I’m not) that governments are the source of all innovation and prosperity, just that credit should be given where it is due. In many cases, advanced technology originates from government and/or university projects and then makes its way into the private sector. I don’t see how this is anything resembling a controversial argument.
    Also, the government will often “out source” research to various public and private entities, mainly universities. So one could argue that these are the institutions that invent the new technologies, in a concrete sense. But the government provided the funding. The actual case would be more of a partnership than sole ownership, or it can depend on the particular arrangement. In the courts, however, whoever holds the patent would be considered the inventor or “owner” of that tech that others have to license, even if the holder of the patent purchased it from someone else. So, yeah, there are some subtle issues involved here. Is that what you were getting at?

  580. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 5:06 pm #

    To any newbees here, Oeos latest ‘incarnation’ is as ‘misti’.
    ============
    Jesus Anti, even when you are conveying the simplest information it comes out so half-assed as to be virtually useless. If there are any such newbees out there who are unfamiliar with the individual you are speaking of they won’t be much better off having read your post.
    Suggested wording:
    To any newbees here, OEO’s latest ‘incarnation’ is as Mistified.

  581. turkle August 3, 2012 at 5:06 pm #

    And if you want some good examples, then google NASA inventions. There are a number of surprising technologies that come up, including Kevlar, the electronic smoke detector, and memory foam. Contrary to popular belief, they didn’t come up with velcro or Tang. (Who drinks that anyways?!)

  582. turkle August 3, 2012 at 5:12 pm #

    Fun fact. A scientist successfully transferred an entire monkey head onto another monkey’s body. The monkey survived for 6 days until the brain was rejected.
    I feel for the little guy. My brain rejected my body once, but then I got better.

  583. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 5:22 pm #

    How do you plead?
    =================
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  584. turkle August 3, 2012 at 5:24 pm #

    Vlad calling someone else a shlub. Priceless! :-]

  585. Vlad Krandz August 3, 2012 at 5:41 pm #

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  586. San Jose Mom 51 August 3, 2012 at 5:45 pm #

    Turkle scores a GOLD in the sarcasm olympics!!
    Still snickering,
    Jen

  587. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 5:49 pm #

    You like Gabby or are you just poking a stick at me?
    I am poking fun.
    Hope you didn’t sell that T Girl for 36…
    No, I held her stock but I sold my 200 shares at $35.94. I originally bought them for $25.04 in Feb 2010. T closed at $37.58 today so at this point I have left $328 “on the table.” There’s an old expression though…”you can’t go broke taking a profit.”

  588. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 6:25 pm #

    Here is an article which will piss off most of you, though in different ways.
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/03/say-goodbye-to-social-security/

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  589. asoka.. August 3, 2012 at 7:24 pm #

    There’s an old expression though…”you can’t go broke taking a profit.”
    This well-worn proverb is one of the most dangerous fallacies of all in investment. It encourages you to take profits far too early.
    Suppose you invest $50,000 for 20 years, running losses and taking profits in such a way that the value of your portfolio rises at no more than the rate of inflation.
    Obviously, when you retire, you will have the equivalent of what you started with in today’s money. Now, how long do you think it will take you to get through that? Three years? Five? Meanwhile, you could live 15 or more years of life to live and you have to continue paying living expenses.
    Congratulations! You will have proved that it is indeed possible to go broke taking a profit.
    It also gives you a perfect excuse to indulge in the sort of false “mental accounting” that includes profits but excludes cost and losses from the final reckoning.
    Of course, it is true in a trivial sense that you do not go broke as a result of any single transaction in which you take a real profit after allowing for costs. But so what? All that matters in the long run is the total return on your portfolio in real terms, i.e. after inflation.
    I hope San Jose Mom is not relying on Q.’s supposed financial expertise.
    Iona is watching, so I have to keep my posts to three a day. This is my first. May be my first and only post today.

  590. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 7:39 pm #

    That reminds me of a caller to a talk radio show, who said he didn’t need SS or any other safety nets. He was going to put $2,000 a year in an IRA for 7 years, which would grow to $1 million.
    I did some calcs and found that he would need to get at least 12% to get $1 million in 35 years. I also calculated that with only 3% inflation, that $1 million would have only about $300,000 in buying power.
    He also didn’t say what would happen if he were disabled in the first few years, without SS disability payments.
    If anyone out there knows where I can invest money at 12% with a guarantee, please let me know. Now the Bernie Madoff in prison, I don’t know where to go.

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  592. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 8:47 pm #

    Now the Bernie Madoff in prison, I don’t know where to go.
    ===============
    I’m guessing you meant with.
    Do you have a concentration issue or, like Misty and others, do you just not give a shit?

  593. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 8:55 pm #

    It was aimed at s/he, not you. Maybe JHK will
    ban that person [ol spider?] Isp.

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  594. muddmike August 3, 2012 at 8:57 pm #

    I am just beat today. I read through it before posting and missed it. Time for bed.

  595. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 8:59 pm #

    I liked some of the book ads on the right of the article.
    MM, you have been posting here for a 5-10 weeks?
    Many here are not ‘unicorn people’, we know the Government is broke and running the PP to try to keep the status quo. Yes?
    Some say 10T debt, some say 200T debt.

  596. Kyooshtik August 3, 2012 at 9:00 pm #

    If anyone out there knows where I can invest money at 12% with a guarantee, please let me know.
    ============
    I think it was 12.25% that Asoka claims he makes on his money but I don’t know about the guarantee.

  597. anti soak August 3, 2012 at 9:02 pm #

    Yes I caught that, but English borrows, even from yiddish.

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  599. erren1h7 August 3, 2012 at 9:14 pm #

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  603. jeoriozgg August 4, 2012 at 12:40 am #

    No hubo iPhone 5. Y Tim Cook no es Steve Jobs. Ese podra ser el resumen tras el primer vistazo al esperado evento de Apple, celebrado ayer en la sede de la compaa. No hubo iPhone 5, pero s una versin muy mejorada del actual iPhone 4. Además del estreno oficial de iCloud, la apuesta de los de Cupertino en la nube>>, del anuncio de la nueva versin de su sistema operativo (iOS 5) y de la llegada de algunas aplicaciones y funciones realmente espectaculares, como Cards o Siri, un exclusivo sistema de reconocimiento de voz que permite pedir al mvil, en lenguaje coloquial, que realice algunas de sus funciones principales.

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  604. rippedthunder August 4, 2012 at 2:09 am #

    And so it begin’s! Catch limit’s? HAHAHA!
    http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/massachusetts/Disaster-relief-sought-for-New-England-fishermen

  605. anti soak August 4, 2012 at 3:36 am #

    I read that US Fishing ‘Industry’ is heavily subsidized.
    One year [94?] it cost ‘us’ 52? Billion,
    As it brought in 70B, cost 122? Billion.
    Some industry. Seal hunting in Canada is subsidized,
    fur farming in USSR is/was subsidized, etc.
    Disgusting.

  606. anti soak August 4, 2012 at 3:40 am #

    If you have 2 million, maybe a Swiss Banc.
    A friend some years back was getting 10%.
    With inflation,its a losing game, its all falling apart.

  607. k-dog August 4, 2012 at 4:15 am #

    Since the 1970s the proportion of what American labor is paid relative to what it produces has been declining, as have the effective tax rates on corporations and the wealthy. With corporations and the rich who own them receiving a larger proportion of what labor produces and paying less in taxes, there is now little left to pay for necessary social programs such as schools, health care and pensions. But this shortfall is no accident. It is the intended result of four decades of policies specifically designed to enrich the ruling class at the expense of labor, the middle class and the poor.

    Good article you found MM.

  608. anti soak August 4, 2012 at 11:55 am #

    I see it as another ‘wedge issue from the left’.
    The left has use illegals, blacks, whoever as part of their ‘rainbow coalition’, to advance the lefts agenda.
    Gays [mostly] dont want to marry or have a civil union. Lesbians however often have more long term affairs. See ‘the Dark Side of Man’ for more info.
    and I found this somewhere. If Obama had a son, maybe hed be in a flashmob. And Obambi dont want his sons punished.
    ‘What that really means is that he wants no consequences for black “students” who are disruptive (that is most of them) in public schools.
    Obongo’s presidency resembles a dictatorship more with each passing day. This is especially evident with what he did to Arizona. If he is reelected (and he will be) his next move will surely be to rescind the 2nd amendment.
    He wants us to be defenseless like South African and British Whites. You heard (well, read) it here first!’

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  609. ozone August 4, 2012 at 12:17 pm #

    Alrighty then,
    Back to some of the matters at hand. (Thanks K-D and MM.)
    SO… here’s a review of the movie, “Heist: Who Stole the American Dream”, by another fucking curmudgeon who’s run off to Mexico. (An eminently [seemingly] practical professor-fellow who would do really well dialoging with Fred… Via internet, you understand; I don’t think Fred would entertain the idea of traveling anywhere near Mexico City or its’ environs without some overarching incentive.)
    The gold-plated turd that comprises the ‘Murkin Dream that many here see fit to lick and polish with unending enthusiasm is, in Mr. Berman’s mind, a dangerous illuuuuuuion.
    Quoting Mr. B, quoting:
    …the general consensus boils down to a remark once made by John Steinbeck: “In the U.S., the poor regard themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
    http://morrisberman.blogspot.com/2012/07/sociopaths-rule.html
    There are fresh and pointed insights here. It’s time to think outside of our carefully constructed boxes and look to a very different future, that could be one without “takings”.
    (To his everlasting discredit, I think he used to be A JOO and must be hiding his nefarious JOO agenda behind sound thinking! Damnit.)

  610. ozone August 4, 2012 at 12:45 pm #

    That would be: illuuuuuusion.
    (Doesn’t have much fun-time in it without the resolving “s” with the “zh” sound.)
    Those who still have some lingering give-a-shit can rewrite the rest to suit their particular tastes…

  611. muddmike August 4, 2012 at 1:00 pm #

    ozone,
    Good article, now I have to see if the movie will ever show anywhere near me. There is one theater in Allentown that sometimes shows these films along with “art” films.

  612. muddmike August 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm #

    O,
    Actually it is illuuuuusion. You had one “u” too many.

  613. Kyooshtik August 4, 2012 at 1:13 pm #

    … maybe a Swiss Banc.
    A friend some years back was getting 10%.
    ===============
    I think your friend was bullshitting you.
    Many years ago (late 70s, early 80s?) I opened a Swiss Bank acct with a minimum deposit of $100 (if memory serves). I did it (1) so I would have an acct outside the U.S. in the event that I might need it and (2) so I could casually mention to the new acquaintance at my left elbow at the hors d’oeuvres table, while smearing caviar on to a cracker, that “I have a Swiss Bank acct.” ;0)
    Setting it up was a hassle and doing my Federal Tax Return was even more of a hassle. Uncle Sam not only wants to know when you had your last bowel movement but everything about money held outside the country.
    The acct paid NEGATIVE interest. I think the Swiss were totally annoyed by dealing with hordes of “little people” (a la Leona Helmsley) with their piddling little minimum deposit accts so they literally made you pay THEM to accept your money.
    After little more than a year I closed the acct and got back something like $98 and they were in no rush to send the check.
    Similarly, today there are certain bonds in Europe that “yield” NEGATIVE interest. Bank-acct-wise, I would not be surprised to find a checking or saving acct at a Swiss Bank yielding negative interest as in the old days. I will leave it to others to do the research.

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  614. Rhino August 4, 2012 at 1:23 pm #

    MY POSTS ABOUT MORALLY-CHALLENGED WHITES HAVE BEEN BACKED UP BY DATA AND BY REFERENCE TO ACTUAL HISTORICAL EVENTS… NOBODY EQUALS WHITES IN MORAL DEPRAVITY WHEN IT COMES TO NUCLEAR BOMBS. NOBODY HAS EVEN BEEN SO INHUMANE AS TO USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS AGAINST CIVILIAN POPULATIONS … – Assoka
    Garbage.
    What you do NOT do is to provide fair and balanced assessment for what happened. What you DO inflict are ludicrously ideologically slanted distortions of historical events, divorced from historical context and circumstance not to mention fact, reason, logic and common sense.
    What this “moral depravity” (as you put it) accomplished was to bring to an abrupt end a war that had claimed to that point an estimated 60 million lives. As others have argued, to have let the Imperial Japanese regime continue (as one alternative to dropping the nukes) would likely have condemned far greater numbers to a bloody end because, again as others have pointed out, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. And the past behavior of Imperial Japan was murderous and cruel having claimed tens of millions of dead, wounded and raped.
    Note two things. 1) It took TWO nukes to make Japan quit. 2) Japan did quit.
    You see, the world as it actually exists as opposed to the utopian realms of the imagination very often does not give any good options. Rather people are compelled to choose between no good alternatives and to hope that they choose the least worst.
    You would probably know this. Providing fair and judicious evaluations of historical events and the motivations of people involved in them is not your concern.
    As I’ve said in other posts your approach and assertions are nothing new or unique. Rather, they’ve been the stock in trade of institutions of alleged higher learning especially of their faculties of political and social “science” which have precious little to do with scholarship and learning (especially of the “higher” kind) and a whole lot to do with political advocacy and posturing. Has been thus for as long as I’ve been watching. And I’ve been watching for decades. And believe me after fucking decades this bullshit is getting awfully fucking old.
    I HAVE NEVER SAID OTHER PEOPLES WERE NOT GUILTY OF RACISM (I HAVE LOUDLY CONDEMNED IMPERIAL JAPAN, FOR EXAMPLE.) – Assoka
    My ass. Your “condemnations” came only after being repeatedly taken to task by yours truly and only after I repeatedly pointed out that you ignore the ravages of regimes such as Imperial Japan and Communist China not to mention Pol Pot while loudly decrying those committed by caucasians.
    I could go on and take on the rest of your post. But frankly I’m getting bored.

  615. asoka.. August 4, 2012 at 1:24 pm #

    muddmike,
    You can see the HEIST movie online, free of charge:
    http://vimeo.com/41169114
    Enjoy!

  616. Rhino August 4, 2012 at 1:34 pm #

    I can’t get into the site. Maybe you can provide a blurb as to the author, what the study is about and what the conclusions are.
    BTW I have trouble with this word “conclusive”. It reminds me of blathering ideologues and the supposed “settled science” in other fields. If this study has anything tangentially to do with objective and dispassionate science then anything it looks at has to be open to re-examination.

  617. Kyooshtik August 4, 2012 at 2:31 pm #

    BTW I have trouble with this word “conclusive”. It reminds me of blathering ideologues …
    ==============
    …who say, for example, that the earth is spherical, not flat, Ha!

  618. asoka.. August 4, 2012 at 3:16 pm #

    Thanks for your good reply, Rhino. I wanted to share this with you, written by Morris Berman:
    Just to clarify my position on guns: I think the USA government should issue every man, woman, child, and neonate an AK-47, and that everyone should start shooting everyone else. I mean, when you think about it, why not? Also, that the Pentagon should vigorously nuke Toronto (sorry) and Paris. There is simply too much restraint in the USA when it comes to weaponry, and hopefully a Romney presidency will be able to correct this.

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  619. Rhino August 4, 2012 at 3:18 pm #

    Not so long ago people had some pretty common sense notions about space and time and then along come guys like Poincare and Einstein and turned things upside down.
    Surely we can agree on the simultaneity of events right? It’s a matter of common sense right?
    Don’t be so sure about things.

  620. newworld August 4, 2012 at 3:34 pm #

    Good Lord Mr. Berman sounds like a crackpot religous leader from a long ago razed Eastern European ghetto, he just changed a few terms.
    Republicans should be issued AR-15s, Democrats should be issued fully functional 110% effective birth control.
    Anyway someone please tell Mr. Berman that the anti-selfdefense cult is pretty much done and the country is pretty much broken for them to be effective. Because when Obama issues that executive order banning guns I will go to the Mexican drug dealers which operate in my town and put my order in with them. Because as the stupid people say, “no one is illegal.”

  621. Kyooshtik August 4, 2012 at 3:41 pm #

    Maybe you can provide a blurb as to the author, what the study is about and what the conclusions are.
    ============
    In general, Rhino, the study (of identical and fraternal twins raised separately [having been separated at ages 0-4 yrs] and having had no contact with, and in most cases not even knowing of the existence of, their twin, yet being amazingly similar in many ways beyond appearance), suggests strongly that genetic makeup is a far more powerful determinant of who a person is or becomes, than environment and upbringing.
    I think Vlad would say, if you took a thousand black babies at birth and had white Ivy League parents raise them to, say, age 17, you would still wind up with 1000 black youths with avg IQs of 85, wearing their ball caps sideways, their pants falling off their asses, favoring grape soda, playing a great game of basketball, and eventually naming their offspring (male or female) with names beginning with the letters La.
    That’s the impression I got.

  622. rippedthunder August 4, 2012 at 3:42 pm #

    HEIST!! I love that word .Rhymes with Christ. Which all us good Catholics bow down to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praise_the_Lord_and_Pass_the_Ammunition

  623. anti soak August 4, 2012 at 3:49 pm #

    [I had wanted to post this yesterday, but Verizon was down and it took 2 calls to India and an email to get things back in order].
    Yr Excellence,
    Way back in 1911 or 1912 when Federal Income Taxes were introduced, was the lie that it was
    ‘a temporary measure’?
    ‘The plight of blacks in America and the endless and fruitless government imposed efforts to effect a cure is a perfect example’.
    Fixing peoples ‘problems’ with EBT, Section 8,
    a FEDERAL Dept. of Education, etc employs alot of people.Hence the reason for these ‘measures’
    Carter created DofE to’get us off foreign oil’.
    Voila, now it employs 15K [?] with a budget of billions and we are more dependent on foreign oil
    than in the 1970s.
    Read ‘Visions of the Anointed’. esp. the part about the San Jose program that let felons out to take college classes. After one killed a coed,
    the anointed still praised their ‘genius idea’.
    Humbly, his obtuseness

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  624. anti soak August 4, 2012 at 4:07 pm #

    Egads, Spidey goes Tri Lingual!!!!

  625. ozone August 4, 2012 at 4:25 pm #

    Thanks for the correction, MM.
    I’ll file in the, “Don’t fuck it up next time!!” drawer for future reference. ;o)
    BTW, a. is a supercilious twat with a bad case of ADD…
    RT,
    Pass me some too; let’s rock and roll!
    I’m not “anti-white”; I’m anti-idiot.
    White-boyz unite! Quit the yappin’ circle-jerk and get your righteous groove on; all your talk is getting cheaper by the day, you pusillanimous, puling pussies. Let’s see what you got. JUMP, you fuckin’ homos!
    (I know fer shure you ain’t got the stones THIS guy’s got):
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32075.htm
    That’s how it’s done, Wankers.

  626. Widespreadpanic7 August 4, 2012 at 4:29 pm #

    Found out my tough-as-nails District Attorney next door neighbor is taking Yoga classes. The only thing I can figure is there must be some some good looking (and limber) available broads taking classes, too.
    The tomatoes are ripening up and its BLT time. You gotta pay a little more and get the best bacon. You won’t regret it. Fresh bread, lettuce and tomatoes from the garden, crispy bacon, with ice cold Sam Adams … its the best!
    Life goes on. Rather pleasantly, I might add.
    –WSP7

  627. ozone August 4, 2012 at 4:32 pm #

    “I’ll file IT in…”
    Thas all fer now; see you trolls in the cave under the bridge next time. (We’ve got to find some slimier rocks to slither under; these are gettin’ too dry and scratchy!)

  628. muddmike August 4, 2012 at 4:33 pm #

    Anti,
    GOOD JOB! You managed to fit several corporatist talking points into a single post. That should get you a nice payday. You should be able to buy a fair amount of meth with that.
    Your talking points actually had a little truth in them.
    Yes, Carter did create the DOE, but it was mainly the combination of several agencies into a single cabinet level agency. Also, the largest single budget item of the DOE is maintaining and improving nuclear weapons. They also work on reactors for Navy ships and trying to find a way to deal with the massive amount of waste from making those weapons.
    The dependence upon foreign oil is mainly because Murikans waste so much. Reagan refused to keep mileage requirements up. The Free Enterprise auto companies know that they can make more on one gas guzzling SUV or truck than a few dozen subcompacts. Thus rather than spending their money on R&D they spend money on marketing to fool the yokels into believing that because they drive a big vehicle that they are important.
    Of course you will tell me that it is impossible to develop more efficient vehicles because the auto companies’ lobbyists told you so.
    I wish I had a dollar for every item that the auto shills said was “impossible”, and are now standard equipment.

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  629. k-dog August 4, 2012 at 4:53 pm #

    I’ll check out ‘Heist’ right after I post this.
    Morris Berman has some interesting ideas in his ‘critique’.
    Morris seems not to be at peace with a world where just about everybody else is not as smart as he is yet. Hope he gets there, but his social indigestion spawns some interesting ideas.


    Bottom line: we are a collection of dummies, and dummies cannot “take back the country” any more than they can discuss the implications of the Second Law of Thermodynamics. If Americans don’t actually have fried rice inside their heads, they are doing an excellent job of imitating people who do; and with that level of cranial impairment, there will be no reversal of the disastrous downhill slide in which we are now engaged.

    Say it ain’t so!!!
    Something to ponder as I go back under my bed. The Blue Angels are strafing my doghouse again. They do this every year, sucks to be a landmark for their @#$!&^% airshow.
    Head down, paws over ears. Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!

  630. k-dog August 4, 2012 at 5:05 pm #

    Inspiring.

  631. k-dog August 4, 2012 at 5:09 pm #

    Holy Kosovo, the last pass shook all the windows.

  632. asoka.. August 4, 2012 at 6:21 pm #

    Speaking of Christ, whom I love, did you know Christianity has its roots in Black Egyptian civilization?
    There is evidence from the ancient Egyptian Culture that Black culture affected most of the ancient world in innumerable ways.
    Black Egyptian civilization thrived longer than imagined, existing many thousands of years longer than the Christian era until its demise at the hands of Orthodoxy.
    Christianity’s exoteric roots were planted long before that cute Jesus baby came on the scene, as can be seen through the manifestations and theologies of Horus, Osiris, Isis, Shu, Anubis, Ra and other savior deities.
    You probably already knew about the Egyptian connection and the fact that Jesus was of Black African descent.
    Like all the homeys of the original tribes of Abraham, Jesus was a nappy-haired, dark-skinned Brother, and a fighter for justice and love.
    I love Jesus, as a person.

  633. asoka.. August 4, 2012 at 6:56 pm #

    Iona, in case you are counting, I made one post on Aug. 3, and three posts on Aug. 4 (not counting this one) and my meditation has not been disturbed. Thank you for your concern.

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  634. Vlad Krandz August 4, 2012 at 7:23 pm #

    Male ballet dancers are all fags, too right? But consider: can you hold a hundred pound girl over your head – perfectly still? Pound for pound they are among the strongest men in the world.
    And you are right, most of them are probably fags or gay to be more accurate.
    Same with yoga but not as much: even pro football players can benefit from some of that flexibility.

  635. Jam47 August 4, 2012 at 7:24 pm #

    Who knows what Jesus really looked like? Chances are he looked like a present-day Palestinian. At any rate, the Rastafarians agree with you in regard to his being black.
    You’re talking about the resurrection aspect of Christianity, right? The resurrection principle does have A root in Egypt, but it has roots elsewhere. One root is in Syria (Adonis), another in Asia Minor (Cybele), another in Persian Zoroastrianism, via the early Pharisees.
    African blacks did rule in Egypt, but only for a while. Nubians were pharaohs in the seventh century B.C., I think. But if you’re going to call pharaonic Egyptians black overall, dissenters are going to ask you to produce the proof. And the other problem with Ancient Egyptian blackness is that you’ll have to specify what the defining characteristics of blackness are. No easy task.
    I wrote the above on the small chance that you were being serious. But you were probably only joking.

  636. Vlad Krandz August 4, 2012 at 7:35 pm #

    Bravo, well said. Another fascinating fact (not part of the study) is the regression to the norm. Couples with superior IQ’s tend to have kids who have IQ’s below their’s. In the cast of Black professionals, their kids often drop out, get into drugs, go to jail, etc. In the case of Whites, there is less trouble, but plenty of disappointment and guilt on the part of the kids.
    Life is full of such vicious inescapable pitfalls.

  637. anti soak August 4, 2012 at 7:46 pm #

    I think ill put yr posts on ‘Scroll By’.
    ‘The dependence upon foreign oil is mainly because Murikans waste so much’
    Dunno when you were born but Ill guess 1960, give or take a decade.So I will re phrase that to:
    ‘The dependence upon foreign oil is mainly
    due to our population doubling in ‘our’ lifetimes’, which is due to the democrats and the 1965 Immigration Act!! Peak Everything.
    Was nice not knowing you.Perhaps the feelings mutual. Cheers.

  638. anti soak August 4, 2012 at 8:18 pm #

    And this:
    Read ‘Visions of the Anointed’.
    esp. the part about the San Jose program that let felons out to take college classes. After one killed a coed,
    the anointed still praised their ‘genius idea’.

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  639. myrtlemay August 4, 2012 at 10:40 pm #

    “Robert Taylor, who ran the ARPA program in the 1960s, sent an email to fellow technologists in 2004 setting the record straight:” Misty
    I always thought that Robert Taylor was famous for just being a big movie star in the thirties and forties. Plus, he was married to Barbara Stanwyk. Who knew?

  640. myrtlemay August 4, 2012 at 10:42 pm #

    No one is counting, Asoka honey, just go on doing what it is you do. Fuck Iona!

  641. myrtlemay August 4, 2012 at 10:53 pm #

    I thought you said you had “issues” with Jesus for calling his mom, “woman”. You also sighted (And I tend to agree) his many disrespecful acts toward our Lady of Grace. What gives? Next thing I know, you’ll be praising Obama (the War Crimes Criminal…your words, dear ;).

  642. Vlad Krandz August 4, 2012 at 11:03 pm #

    Little old lady from Pasadena drives off 5 Black robbers with pistol.
    Whose side are you on?http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=11201

  643. myrtlemay August 4, 2012 at 11:08 pm #

    And speaking of “Iona Laundramat”, well, I’ve owned quite a few things myself! What makes her so god damned special? I owned (along with a husband) property in Cape May, New Jersey back in the day (before the yuppies came in and gave me (us) half a million for it!) Look it up! The Carroll Villa! It’s still there. Sold my share after the divorce. I Owned half of Jackson Street in Cape May for damn near two decades! And you’re worried about some bitch who owns a freakin laundramat? FUCK HER!
    Sorry, somebody upthread mentioned Cape May and it got me agoin! I still own property there, although it’s part of my late husband’s estate, and his kids own the other 3/4s and are going to out live me without a doubt (49 years old!).

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  644. myrtlemay August 4, 2012 at 11:11 pm #

    *sighted* equals “cited”. If Q is lurking. 😉

  645. myrtlemay August 4, 2012 at 11:24 pm #

    Everything fell apart in 1965, starting with my body.

  646. xhalor August 5, 2012 at 1:27 am #

    “I always thought that Robert Taylor was famous for just being a big movie star in the thirties and forties.”
    How about Hedy Lamarr?
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=hedy-lamarr-not-just-a-pr

  647. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 1:46 am #

    I definitely do have issues with all the hateful things Jesus did, including his dissing women and his own mother, but I’m gonna cut him some slack, you know what I mean? After all, he is part of the Holy Trinity, so he still has some potential. Told some nice parables, so I like him as a person.
    I liked Sermon on the Mount, mostly the part about LOVE, even though Jesus did not practice what he preached.
    I do not agree with Jesus’ irrational temper (cursing a fig tree because it had no fruit … sheesh, how stupid can you get?) and his violent behavior (taking a whip to people, overturning tables in the temple, telling people to hate their parents, and generally committing terrorist acts that would get him jailed by Homeland Security today).

  648. anti soak August 5, 2012 at 1:49 am #

    Jim Kunstlers on Coast to Coast Radio, like in 20?
    minutes.

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  649. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 2:09 am #

    As others have argued, to have let the Imperial Japanese regime continue (as one alternative to dropping the nukes) would likely have condemned far greater numbers to a bloody end because, again as others have pointed out, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

    This is rich. Because we “think” we know what the future Imperial Japan was going to do, based on past behavior, let’s incinerate men, women, and children in large cities.
    Using the same logic, “the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior,” any other country in the world could conclude the USA is going to use its nuclear weapons again.
    A pre-emptive strike against the USA is therefore justified. Maybe take down some towers in New York City and kill thousands of people. Same logic.
    Actually, Bin Laden warned the USA before making his attack on the Trade Center in 2001.

    In 1998, bin Laden said in a fatwa: “For more than seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples” (see February 22, 1998)

    I guess bin Laden was justified, by Rhino’s logic, since “the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior” and USA behavior in Saudi Arabia was clear to bin Laden.
    Using Rhino’s logic, anybody who imagines a slight can point to “past behavior” they don’t like to justify committing the most heinous crimes against humanity, you know, to pre-emptively prevent “future behavior” they don’t like, since past behavior justifies any kind of barbarous and immoral acts, according to Rhino.

  650. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 2:29 am #

    What makes her so god damned special?
    MM, you are special, too. For different reasons.
    Iona is special because of her understanding and appreciation of meditation, and her kindness in her communication with me on CFN, itself an effect of meditation.
    You are both special in your own ways.

  651. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 2:39 am #

    HAPPY MOTORING ALERT
    If anybody cares about NASCAR, tomorrow is the Pocono Raceway event.
    A non-white driver, Juan Pablo Montoya, beat out Pocono qualifying stars such as Denny Hamlin, Joey Logano and Kasey Kahne to lead the field in Sunday’s 400-mile race.
    JPM is from Colombia, South America.
    I’m wishing him the best happy motoring tomorrow. I hope he teaches the white “good ol’ boys” a lesson.
    At the Daytona 500 race, Mitt Romney’s attempt to connect with voters went awry when he admitted that he didn’t follow racing as closely as “some of the most ardent fans.”
    “But I have some friends who are NASCAR team owners,” Romney added.
    At the same event, he told a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos, “I like those fancy raincoats you bought. Really sprung for the big bucks.”

  652. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 2:52 am #

    Myrtlemay, what I do on CFN, in a nonviolent gadfly kind of way, is present different points of view from the mainstream misanthropic defeatist pessimistic CFNer whose mantra is: “we are so fucked!,” because that CFN attitude paralyzes.
    We need action and every action counts, even actions like chanting kirtans or meditating.
    Iona is counting, as are E. and others. They consider that important.
    Puzzler is fetching for me when I cut and paste, but has not come through with any citations recently.
    MM, did you see where E. called my well-researched and well-written posts “dreck” and falsely claimed I post 21 times every day? Shameful. All to distract from the substance.

  653. xhalor August 5, 2012 at 3:12 am #

    “Who knows what Jesus really looked like? Chances are he looked like a present-day Palestinian.”
    What? In all those old European paintings he looks a young Eric Clapton. Jeez, what a let down. But, still, it doesn’t change the fact that I can prove Clapton ACTUALLY EXISTS. N’kay?

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  654. Eleuthero August 5, 2012 at 4:47 am #

    Quit your bellyaching about how “misunderstood” you are. Your “optimism” consists of not seeing the enormous structural damage to the USA economy and the plight of ordinary people. Even your hero, the Buddha, left his kingdom and when he saw old age, sickness, suffering, and death he didn’t retreat to his kingdom and write about how great life is. He wandered forth among the vagrant, homeless, and aimless and communed with them.
    You sit behind your computer and imagine that you are some kind of spiritual sage here to guide us. You aren’t even as good as an ordinary, struggling householder. Neither Iona, Being There, me, Ozone, or anybody else who observes the real world accurately is going to be as blase as you about a US economy that’s now a Third World type of economy.
    Your optimism allows you to be a do-nothing. It’s the pessimists who recognize problems and set about working on them. The optimists free themselves from having to do anything because they’ve got their hands over their eyes. “I see nussing, nussing, nussing!!!!” You’re like Sergeant Schulz from Hogan’s Heroes.
    E.

  655. k-dog August 5, 2012 at 5:18 am #

    Watched it:
    Heist: Who Stole the American Dream”
    I’ll give it two paws up. Same as five gold stars if you want to know.
    ★ ★ ★ ★ ★
    The Powell Memorandum guided conservative action, bankrupting of the nation. The ideas and beliefs reflected in this film are the same as those held by the Sustainable Dog Party. I can not but give this film the highest rating. This film should guide progressive action as brave canines work to bring decency and prosperity to the nation just as the Powell Memorandum worked to guide in the destruction of the nation’s prosperity decency.
    Thanks Asoka for posting the original Vimeo link.
    The Powell memorandum is explained in the movie.

  656. k-dog August 5, 2012 at 5:20 am #

    errrrrrrrrrrr prosperity and decency
    Woof !!

  657. 8man August 5, 2012 at 10:37 am #

    MATTER TALKS TO ITSELF….
    From:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=179765
    1) Evolution is a theory that can be explained perfectly only with words and concepts, and in fact applying mathematics to the theory will give you a less accurate theory and idea, a case where mathematics takes you farther away from the precision and understanding of the theory not closer.
    2) There are really no explanations, nothing that must be explained or known or figured out within the process of evolution: it is just a long chain of casual actions and reactions, each step a totally random fluke, that leads to some temporary useful “functionality” (for the item) within a very random, quirky, temporary environment that will surely change, and change again and forever.
    3) A good way to understand it : take a walk outside, find the first 3 pebbles on the street, measure the distance between them and write down the numbers. Now explain why those are the numbers. Explain the exact sequence of events from present time minus a billion years that lead up to those 3 pebbles being exactly there. Now that is the same random, intractable sequence of events that lead to a human and his mind, or a dog or a fish (or a mountain shape, or a cloud shape) etc.
    Hope that clears it up somewhat.
    MATTER TALKS TO ITSELF….
    But even if you knew all of the exact steps, the exact sequence of action – reactions, of configurations Matter underwent in 1 billion years to lead to that exact organism, the Man, the Man Brain, the Human Mind, and even if you knew all of the always partial repetitive patterns (the Bit Set, the Repetitive Bit Set, the frequency modulation of another frequency modulation of another frequency and so on for many levels and many levels deep that create the resemblance of “laws of Physics”) that matter transited through, traversed through, the partial laws of Physics and Chemistry (since there are many little, partial, local laws and effects and applications of the laws of physics that are being executed as Matter traverses all of its intermediate configurations until it reaches “Man”, the “Man Brain”), all of that knowledge and detail, the knowledge of all essentially would be worthless anyways since it would be just one example of one path Evolution went through to obtain an end result.
    It would be just one fluke example amongst a virtually never ending set of examples and possibilities that evolution could execute, all by chance, by purely blind chance (just 10 molecules for 100 configurations can combine in more than 10^100 possibilites, etc.).
    But you could reply, that by knowing even a small sequence of events, a small slice of evolution could make it repeatable in the laboratory, we could repeat some of the tricks of evolution, we could put matter in a configuration and feed it actions to make it react and evolve into a first cell, or partially so, or any other subfunction or subset of an organism, etc. But I doubt this is possible since the three body problem can’t be solved, the initial conditions, even if slightly different can make the evolution diverge largely from what we expect or could lead to nothing, just like the 50 years ongoing experiments with the attempt of creating something more than simple amino acids have lead to nowhere no matter how hard they try.
    I repeat, this is no longer within the realm of science, there are no repetitive patterns discernible, it can’t be repeated, or every possible repetition will lead to a different outcome, etc.
    Also, if you look at all of the finely tuned “purposes” and mechanisms of the Human Body, or any other animal, from the molecules, to their intricate folding process to the signals and processing going on in all of the billions of cells, the nerves, the brains, etc. and then the end result of all of this “purpose” and complex machine is simply animals that don’t do anything at all all day long, that have a very simple behavior, eat and hunt and reproduce and that is the end, such a simple program made up of only a few instructions, then you see how totally without purpose evolution and its results are: and Man being an Excess Capacity Item with a Brain that tortures itself, forcing it to have more purpose than simply nothing at all, which is its real purpose, has to desperately invent ever new purposes, ever new repeatable patterns, rules and games and interactions just to keep on living and not get “bored to death”: the most useless and without purpose of animals is Man who thinks he has and even needs a purpose, incredible, how totally void man is of any meaning and purpose and how complex the mechanisms underlying his living are. Nothing shouts out more clearly than this that “Evolution, Nature, Life Are Absolutely Void of any Meaning, Value and Purpose, are Irrelevant to the Utmost Extent”.
    Also, it is mostly an artistic choice, an aesthetical choice, what “looks right”, what looks like it “makes sense” to say that a certain mechanism created the heart, or the heart must be explained and such. And why does that even need an explanation ? Why is simply saying “there is no explanation” not enough ?
    And why is even a long chain of complex mechanisms, even if discovered and even if correct so much more valuable than saying “No Reason At All” ?
    And, if you condense all of evolution (see it in fast motion, all in a microsecond ?) , if you look at the ball of matter that the earth is, and see it self manipulate, talk to itself for a billion years and generate Man and Minds and oppose this to a “One Shot Act of Creation”, what is really the difference ? They are both the same, the path that lead to any configuration of matter is irrelevant, could be any at all, could even be a one shot assignment from nowhere and nothing, or it could be a path with 10^1000 intermediate configurations of matter that lead up to the “Result”.
    The debate between creationists and evolutionists is only about where to put the miracle, if in a One Shot Act of Creation, or a 10^1000 Step Act of Creation, etc.
    Matter slowly starts to interact and talk to itself, and starts to create repetitive patterns, a bit set, a set of information that repeats and interacts with other chunks of matter, and so on, and the bit set becomes larger and larger and then sometimes gets destroyed and the process goes on and on until a stable bit set is reached and memorized and copied to other chunks of matter and so on.
    The way Matter can self organize itself through casual chance and actions and reactions is mind boggling and a miracle in and of itself, much more so than an Act of Creation, an Act of Creation is actually the logical, simplest and most turstworthy explanation compared to trying to figure out how matter can self interact and create internal repetitive patterns.
    And can you imagine how many other possibilities matter may have, maybe inside Star Plasmas, having many trillions of levels of bit sets, all creating a form of life and consciousness, and other forms of life and Minds and consciousness that don’t even depend of any underlying material substrate, or any substrate at all, or any relationship imaginable at all!
    The more you ponder it, the more you see how we will never know nothing at all, the possibilities are truly without end…
    And how will evolution evolve when man starts to change his Man Brain ? Starts to manipulate how his brain works and how it decodes the world, other actions and reactions, and processes and so on.

  658. 8man August 5, 2012 at 10:41 am #

    “As a kid, I used to make red and black ants fight. The reds seemed to have more vitality and always won when of comparable size. Some of blacks were huge though – as a compensation. They could hold their own with the reds or even kill them when really big. ”
    Jesus ph*kng Khrist, and I thought I was crazy ! So are Homes and Buildings that are painted brown or Black inferior to White buildings ? Are black Cars inferior to white Cars ? Wow, you are really off it, absurd….
    THE APE THING, THE APETURD, THE TURD APE, THE TURD, THE ROBOT MAN, THE TOBOR…

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  659. 8man August 5, 2012 at 10:42 am #

    Also,Jesus, the SON (or SUN ?) OF MAN, THE KING OF THE JEWS, you may want to study all of these blogs very deeply and meditate upon their contents for many years….
    http://instantsingularity1.blogspot.it
    and
    http://instantsingularity3.blogspot.it
    THE APETARD, THE APETURD, THE APE, THE EIGHT MEN…. TOBOR TALKS…

  660. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 10:55 am #

    Thanks, E., for your reply. You say:

    It’s the pessimists who recognize problems and set about working on them. The optimists free themselves from having to do anything because they’ve got their hands over their eyes.

    I do not want to get into a pissing match over pessimism versus optimism. We are both presented with the same data, so it must be a matter of interpretation.
    It does warm my heart to know that you and all the other pessimists who call yourselves realists are indeed recognizing problems and working on them. Your statements gives me hope.

  661. Widespreadpanic7 August 5, 2012 at 11:05 am #

    Heard JHK on C2C last night, 3 full hours to get his message out, probably listened to by millions. (Thanks for the heads up, antisoak!) Jim did a good job going over the material from TLE, Too Much Magic, as well as his novels. It was a matter-of-fact presentation, not alarmist or ‘Doomer’ whatsoever. The show’s host admitted at the beginning he hadn’t read any of Jim’s books and you could tell by the questions he asked. But he kind of caught on as the program progressed and asked more interesting and informed questions later. Jim’s on-air demeanor was clear and confident, all in all very professional and convincing. I think he might have opened a few eyes amongst those out there in radioland whose main concerns heretofore were flying saucers, bigfoot monsters, Area 51, Roswell, NM, and various crank conspiracy theories involving the Kennedy assassinations and 911.
    –WSP7

  662. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 11:05 am #

    You sit behind your computer and imagine that you are some kind of spiritual sage here to guide us. You aren’t even as good as an ordinary, struggling householder.
    On this we agree, E. I am a simple beginner, with a beginner’s mind.
    ======================
    The Great Way is not difficult for those who have
    no preferences. When love and hate are both
    absent everything becomes clear and undisguised.
    Make the smallest distinction, however, and heaven and earth are set infinitely apart.
    If you wish to see the truth then hold no opinions for or against anything. To set up what you like against what you dislike is the disease of the mind.
    When the deep meaning of things is not understood the mind’s essential peace is disturbed to no avail.
    The Way is perfect like vast space when nothing is lacking and nothing is in excess.
    Indeed, it is due to our choosing to accept or reject that we do not see the true nature of things.
    Live neither in the entanglements of outer things nor in inner feelings of emptiness.
    Be serene in the oneness of things and such erroneous views will disappear by themselves.
    When you try to stop activity to achieve passivity your very effort fills you with activity.
    As long as you remain in one extreme or the other you will never know Oneness.
    Those who do not live in the single Way fail in both activity and passivity, assertion and denial.
    To deny the reality of things is to miss their reality; to assert the emptiness of things is to miss their reality.
    The more you talk and think about it, the further astray you wander from the truth.
    Stop talking and thinking, and there is nothing you will not be able to know.
    To return to the root is to find the meaning, but to pursue appearances is to miss the source.
    At the moment of inner enlightenment there is a going beyond appearance and emptiness.
    The changes that appear to occur in the empty world we call real only because of our ignorance.
    Do not search for the truth; only cease to cherish opinions.
    SOURCE:
    HSIN HSIN MING
    Verses on the Faith Mind by The 3rd Zen Patriarch, Sengstau
    Did he contradict himself? Very well then, he contradicted himself. He was large and contained multitudes.

  663. jim e August 5, 2012 at 11:09 am #

    Mr. Kunstler, I enjoyed you on Coast to Coast AM this morning. You kept me up ’til 4. I did not realize you had been on before in 2005 with Art. I would like to hear that show. I hope you surgery goes well this week and that your Cobalt poisoning is cured with the hip procedure.
    The rain has been abundant in Birmingham…

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  664. charliefoxtrot August 5, 2012 at 11:18 am #

    grrrrrrrrr! howwwwwlllll!!! ‘video cannot be played’…stupid little smartphone!

  665. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 11:19 am #

    3 full hours to get his message out…

    Thanks, WSP7. Here is the link to the show:
    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/08/04
    I suspect it was less than three full hours given the number of commercial interruptions.

  666. rippedthunder August 5, 2012 at 11:19 am #

    HI Marlin, You don’t believe in flying saucers? Come by my place when I complain about the ol’ ladies cooking! ;o) just jokin’ she is a great cook. new brt Italian. Have ya ever been to Capitol lunch?
    http://www.capitollunch.com/

  667. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 11:53 am #

    “I have paid taxes every year,” Romney insisted. “A lot of taxes.”
    I believe Romney has paid sales taxes, gasoline taxes, luxury taxes, property taxes, etc.
    But the question was about his not paying income taxes for ten years. Romney dodged that artfully.

  668. myrtlemay August 5, 2012 at 12:13 pm #

    I was not aware that Hedy Lamar was as intelligent as she was beautiful. I remember reading about her being arrested for shoplifting of all things! I don’t know what it is about these stars who earn millions and end up broke. Just doesn’t make sense to me.
    I did read about how Doris Day’s husband (and also her manager) stole every dime she ever made. She was so broke she had to do a t.v. series in the sixties to make money. I guess when you make that much money you really have to watch your ass(etts) and learn not to trust people around you. How sad.

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  669. Kyooshtik August 5, 2012 at 12:23 pm #

    Andy Murray of Great Britain just beat Roger Federer for the Olympic Gold in men’s tennis. John McEnroe was one of the commentators. He is an excellent commentator (as is his brother, Patrick, BTW). I DO have two beefs with John, though, which distract me from the action when I hear them:
    . He pronounces the word “always” as “Oh-ways.”
    (more on that common phenomenon momentarily)
    . He uses the word “obviously” excessively. I find myself yelling back at the TV “if everything is so friggin obvious why bother mentioning it! The US Tennis Open begins in a few weeks. Listen for this overuse of “obviously” and see if I’m not right in my criticism.
    As regards “Oh-ways” … for reasons unknown to me, there is something very difficult for a lot of people about forming the guttural L sound (i.e. in the throat as opposed to the L formed by pressing the tongue to the palate). Oddly, this seems to happen only when the guttural L appears within the word rather than at the end or near the end when followed by D. People don’t have a problem pronouncing the guttural L sound in the word “guttural” for example, or in feral, or pearl, or girl, or herald, or Gerald or world). If you give even ONE shit, much less TWO shits, about such things, pay attention to how people pronounce the word “vulnerable.”

  670. Kyooshtik August 5, 2012 at 12:34 pm #

    You don’t believe in flying saucers? Come by my place when I complain about the ol’ ladies cooking!
    ===========
    I didn’t get this^ at first but then I DID and cracked up.

  671. jackieblue2u August 5, 2012 at 1:41 pm #

    I might add : it goes something like this :
    ‘nothing compared to what lies inside us’.
    Emerson.
    you get the gist of it.
    I can’t recall the first 2 lins. But the last stuck with me.
    Live in the moment and define yourself from the inside out.

  672. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 1:55 pm #

    Thank you, jackieblue2u !
    It isn’t easy being green, but your advice is spot on: Live in the moment and define yourself from the inside out.
    Hope all is going well with you in California, or wherever you are.

  673. Vlad Krandz August 5, 2012 at 2:04 pm #

    Lao Tzu calls for small goverment:
    In #58 He says, Listlessly govern:
    Happy your people;
    Govern exactingly:
    Restless your people.
    And in #60 says, Rule a large country
    As small fish are cooked.
    The Tao Te Ching can be seen (among other things) as one of the great classics of Libertarianism and stands besides Carpenter’s “Towards Democracy” as a treatise on beautiful ideas that cannot work in the Kali Yuga.

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  674. xhalor August 5, 2012 at 2:10 pm #

    Head to head Andy, once again, has the better record. So he can beat Roger, arguably the greatest male player to step out on the court, in straight sets in the Olympics, but can’t win a major. Rooting for Andy is like rooting for the Chicago Cubs.

  675. jackieblue2u August 5, 2012 at 2:54 pm #

    Who Are You ? You are My Favorite Poster !
    nice of you to help those elderly folks.
    yes they create much less garbage / waste than
    most others.
    Why should’t they pay less ? Things make no sense.
    anyway I always enjoy your posts.
    I am not on much lately, and mostly read and do not post anymore.

  676. Kyooshtik August 5, 2012 at 3:09 pm #

    These Olympic Water Polo chicks really play rough…I never paid particular attention before today. There are some obvious attempts to hold an opponent under water. I also note the sport does not discriminate against hippo size women’s participation. In fact size must be an advantage. US 9 vs Italy 5 with less than a min. to go.

  677. Widespreadpanic7 August 5, 2012 at 3:11 pm #

    Hey RipT been to Capital Lunch many times but like the Dog House (behind CCSU) better. They’re both good. And those dogs are good for you, too!
    Looks like New Britain has provided wives to half of New England. Mine came from New Britain too. Moved there from Spain when in elementary school.
    –WSP7

  678. Widespreadpanic7 August 5, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    Took some Spanish relatives to the Dog House a few years ago for Strand Dogs. They’d never seen a Hot Dog before and began eating them from the middle. We had to set them straight. They liked them pretty good, washed down with Avery’s soda.
    Hey Rip, you gonna make that British Bike event at Haddam Neck Ozone talked about? Sunday August 19.
    –WSP7

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  679. daytrip August 5, 2012 at 3:18 pm #

    What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
    E

  680. daytrip August 5, 2012 at 3:31 pm #

    In the words of an anonymous White Sox fan (I think it was painted on his bare chest) “Cubs Suck”
    reformed fan

  681. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 4:18 pm #

    Sikhism is the fifth largest religion in the world with a population of upwards of 30 million worldwide. There are an estimated 250,000 Sikhs in the United States.
    Sikhism grows out of Hinduism (Guru Nanak) and is not related to Islam.

  682. Iona Laundramat August 5, 2012 at 4:22 pm #

    That’s ten posts today already, Soake.
    Less is more; get back on your zafu, clock some time there.
    Really, I’m just trying to help. At times you make good points, but when you’re posting several (sometimes dozens of) times a day you strike me as being manic, you’re just arguing for the sake of arguing. You seem out of balance then, which is why I suggest you meditate more and strive to go much deeper. That will help.
    Iona

  683. Iona Laundramat August 5, 2012 at 4:25 pm #

    Make that eleven posts today.
    Did anyone notice that Facebook came within a few cents of dropping below $20 a share last week?
    Iona

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  684. asoka.. August 5, 2012 at 5:03 pm #

    Make that eleven posts today.
    If I make 21 posts today, that will make an honest man out of E., who claims I post 21 pieces of dreck each day.
    This makes twelve.
    Myrtlemay says I should just be me and stop counting. So I am trusting you will make periodic reports.

  685. newworld August 5, 2012 at 5:03 pm #

    Great looking garden Mr K.. Though a bit showy instead of productive it still shows class.
    Please make Monday’s CF about gun control this will greatly please your base and it is they who pay your bills. Half of them who are posting on this Kos thread calling for gun control. Which we no doubt can properly assume be more effective than drug prohibition.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/05/1116981/-Sikh-temple-shootings-thoughts-and-prayers-aren-t-enough-any-more

  686. Vlad Krandz August 5, 2012 at 5:13 pm #

    All your ideas are cherished opinions – like Blacks being as smart as Whites or Whites being uniquely evil.

  687. Vlad Krandz August 5, 2012 at 5:18 pm #

    That Zew, Juckerberg really screwed the gentile pooch! He will no doubt atone (at one) by helping Africa – that is, help other people, not the ones he hurt.

  688. k-dog August 5, 2012 at 8:01 pm #

    Let the decomplexification begin.

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  689. asoka.. August 6, 2012 at 2:27 am #

    Remember how whites were defending racial profiling for young Muslim men?
    Now we are having a series of terrorist attacks by angry white males. Time to round up all angry white males … and confiscate their firearms.
    What? … you don’t like racial profiling when you are in the target group being profiled?

  690. rocco August 6, 2012 at 4:30 am #

    I know that the right and left wingers will be uset,but today I would like to congratulate a federal agenecy called, NASA for the great work done on the Mars Rover Mission.

  691. 8man August 6, 2012 at 7:41 am #

    Mathematics Has Peaked
    Postby nameta9 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:17 pm
    Mathematics Has Peaked
    Referencing the thread on Evolution and Purpose I declared that the theory of Natural Evolution is most accurately described simply by concepts, by ideas, by sentences and relationships, not with formulas or any kind of mathematics at all, indeed the use of Mathematics would render the theory less accurate, less precise, more vague, would essentially render the theory more false. This is an interesting case where the Myth of Mathematics, the idea of having Complete Control over how Matter behaves by applying Equations, Differential Equations, Probability Formulas and so on and such can get us “Closer to the Truth”, closer to “Understanding” and closer to containing an issue within our mind is finally exposed, mathematics is revealed as totally false, not applicable, not relevant, as using the wrong instrument to explain something, etc.
    And actually the use of Mathematics would render the theory less correct and less precise since even if you could have all of the exact formulas and sequence of events that lead from Molecules to the First Cell to the End Result of a Man Brain, even if you had all of the Mathematics precisely correct and such (something I doubt possible), it would be useless, it would be just a random case of formatting just one sequence of events to the utmost precision, but wouldn’t reveal anything at all with regards to the true nature of the sequence of events and namely that the events are totally casual, random, disconnected between each other, are not formattable at all, cannot be decoded in any logical way at all, and indeed mathematics hides the real nature of what is going on, falsifies reality by pretending that it abides to something that has Formulas or Repeatable Patterns when this is not the case at all, even if they are discovered in just that one case of natural evolution that we managed to decode, those formulas would not have any general meaning, any deeper meaning than being just casually applicable.
    But this brings me to the general idea that mathematics, as an instrument to further understanding has mostly Peaked, has finished delivering what it could deliver, etc. The three body problem can’t be solved, most real case applications of Differential Equations cannot be solved analytically and precisely, with closed form formulas, most of what could have been decoded and discovered and used by applying mathematics has been achieved, we are now left with a few breadcrumbs left to discover and use.
    And it is significant, especially the use of Supercomputers that try to simulate Protein Folding or the Weather or any other natural events by applying the Laws of Physics and the Differential Equations, that no matter how many “Operations per Second” the Numerical program needed to describe and format a phenomena mathematically (and notice especially the fact that we always have to revert to Numerical Methods and Approximations, a truly definite declaration of defeat on behalf of mathematics, the myth of mathematics exposed even though no one notices this) the results of understanding and the possibility of control and manipulation of phenomenas is always very little anyways.
    The fact that we have now reached 10^15 operations per second to describe protein folding for example shows just how much the use of Mathematics to describe nature is at the End of the Road, Has Peaked, is mostly over, it is a declaration of defeat bar none. And wouldn’t we have so many new discoveries and applications if the natural phenomena even followed those equations and those programs etc. ? Why such a huge diminishing Returns (but we always like Large Numbers) ?
    If mathematics were really describing protein folding we could have expressed it with a few lines of computer code and a few thousand operations per second, it would have been clear that mathematics corresponds to reality, but instead we have that no matter how many billions of operations per second we perform, we never reach anything.
    Because as all things that came from the 20th century, the great leap forward of Science and Technology, we thought that that progress could go on forever, and mathematics was mostly applied to machines, electronics, to rockets and missles and so on, and in this case all of the possible use of mathematics has been perfected and explored, but when dealing with natural phenomena such as the weather or earthquakes or predicting the exact shape of a mountain range or the exact shape of a cloud or the exact shape of the next wave in an ocean, mathematics fails miserably. And so also mathematics will end up in the dustbin along with the Myth of Innovation and the End of Moore’s Law and all other mythologies on the never ending progress of a science that has mostly ended discovering and has mostly peaked.
    And of course, this may be because mathematics may always be simply a rough approximation of something that is infinitely deep and detached from our possibility of understanding, etc.
    And in fact most of the really important and new theories will be composed of ideas and concepts and sentences without any use of mathematics, just like the theory of Natural Evolution, the application of mathematics would render all of the new science less precise, less correct, more false, mathematics would lead the theory to actually be less precise, less accurate, less true and such. And we will have trillions of new theories made up of concepts and symbols and complex relationships and arrangements of symbols and new inventions of new words etc. And even new comic book mathematics that are complex and weird and crazy and such.
    Of course, I may be wrong and some “New Mathematics” (or better still some New Way of Formatting and Manipulating the Corresponding Associated Symbols Assigned to Chunks of Reality) may actually make us solve the three body problem, solve all of the differential equations that don’t have exact analytical solutions, solve how to predict the shape of the next cloud precisely and such. I doubt it though, I am waiting, and most of all I think that it would be useless anyways, since the future of Science and Technology is in the path of inventing new Worlds, inventing new Minds and Brains, Inventing New Laws of Physics, not discovering what some random nature gave us just for the heck of it, we must create our reality, invent how it works, not discover how it works.
    And even LOGIC HAS PEAKED, be crazy invent new sciences everyday, invent the craziest things, who cares if it is true or false…
    l’imagination au pouvoir. Immaginazione al Potere. Power to Imagination, or may Imagination have all of the Power…
    NUMBER 8

  692. myrtlemay August 6, 2012 at 3:03 pm #

    How do we determine when someone is “angry”? Or are we talking about rounding up all white males?

  693. scrubby August 6, 2012 at 11:44 pm #

    Ah, Bill Moyers. According to David Ray Griffin, Moyers is unwilling to deal with Griffin’s arguments and confront the evidence about what really happened on 9/11, and leading up to it. It’s a pity, Griffin says, because Moyers has so rigorously sought the truth in so many other issues.
    Oops, I forgot that 9/11 is taboo here. Never mind.

  694. myrtlemay August 9, 2012 at 3:56 pm #

    700th!

  695. Shawfan August 18, 2012 at 12:24 am #

    I think you and your bloggers should add the following two websites to your admirable list if no one has done it yet: MYBudget360. This insightful series of articles tells it like it is and who’s responsible for it. And infowars.com Alex Jones who runs it fills the site with articles you’re not likely to see anywhere else but should. He also has a 30-radio network syndication well worth listening to.