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I suspect these are not so much the cries of a people yearning for redress of unfair laws — as was the case in 1963 when Martin Luther King led the now-hallowed march on Washington against the Jim Crow regime in Dixieland — but the hue and cry of a political machine desperate for attention that has otherwise run out of principles and purposes.

Donald Trump is certainly a vulgar fellow of questionable intelligence, and the country might be better off with someone else in the White House, but where exactly would that leave black America? We’re not going to re-run the civil rights campaign of the 1960s, which culminated in explicit federal laws that abolished the southern state’s Jim Crow laws.

What is government supposed to do now to improve the lives of black America? There is, for instance, the quandary of public assistance — welfare of various forms, transfer payments, SNAP cards, housing subsidies. I don’t believe these policies were concocted deliberately to keep people-of-color down, but they’ve been hugely destructive to family formation because of the “man-in-the-house” rule that strongly promotes single-parent households headed by mothers. And these policies have surely shaped a dysfunctional ghetto culture in many other ways. I don’t hear any calls from the black caucuses, or from their professional colleagues in the lobbying industry, or from the black churches, to change that rule. There is no movement at all to get rid of public assistance per se.

We’ve had several generations who, in one way another, have enjoyed the benefits of “affirmative action,” and American black people are still under-represented in the professions, except in government jobs. Affirmative action has been challenged in the courts, but it finds new ways to assert itself, especially in academia. Black public intellectuals — Sowell, McWhorter, Steele, et al — have argued that affirmative action stigmatizes all of black America, and it’s worth considering if that is true. They are in a tiny minority of black non-Leftists who even dare to raise the question.

Who is actually responsible for the murder rate among black men in cities like Chicago, Baltimore, and Milwaukee? Is “structural racism” behind the decision to pull the trigger? Are gang-bangers depraved on account of they’re deprived, as the old lyric from West Side Story goes?

How come there is no recognition that the promotion of multi-culturalism militates against the idea of a national common culture — e pluribus unum (out of many, one) — leaving nothing for any people to assimilate into? And how much is the cult of multiculturalism an excuse for black America to stay exactly where it is, separate and steeped in grievance for being “left out?”

These questions are apart from the easily-observed character deformities of the President. But they were there in plain sight before he came on the scene and Trump is not the reason black America finds itself so frustrated and angry.

I had an eye-opening experience three years ago after I gave a lecture at Boston College (a talk on issues raised by The Long Emergency). The social justice hysteria on campus was reaching cruising speed just then. After my talk, I was taken out for dinner by six or seven faculty members. One was ethnically Asian, the rest white. Three of them were professors specializing in “race and gender” studies. Since that was the case, they steered the conversation to issues of race and gender. I made the remark that it ought to be a primary mission in education to teach proper spoken English — because without that ability, kids might not be able to learn anything else.

I was denounced as a “racist” all round the table for saying that. Three years later, it still astounds me that any professional educator would mount an argument against developing skills in the language of this country. That’s something I would definitely blame white people for.


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621 Responses to “Racism-O-Rama”

  1. Ussi January 15, 2018 at 10:06 am #

    Here’s an idea for something the government could do which would not only “improve the lives of Black America”, it would improve the lives of 99% of Americans –

    Raise the minimum wage to a livable amount.

    • Doc Holliday January 15, 2018 at 10:43 am #

      Probably not. I am an ‘old white guy’. I started my business (non-residential construction consultation and management) fourteen years ago, when the company I formerly worked for decided that when I (or anyone else) turned 50, they were just going to skate to retirement and do very little. (That company became bankrupt during 2009, boo-hoo).
      Some years I do pretty well, some years are very, very lean. I pay my salary (including double FICA and double Medicaid, I am an employee of the corporation I own, it’s only employee) at most, four times a year. Sometimes just twice a year in lean times. I can (and have on numerous occasions) spent 200 or more hours bidding a job, which I was never awarded (sometimes no one was awarded, it is, then, called a “feasibility study”). I have taken three vacations in the last 14 years, one to my Father’s funerl. No one has any concern whether I have a ‘livable income’ or not, and the government cannot guarantee that I do. How would they do that?? Make me pay more taxes to pay myself more income?? My corporation already has to pay “Employment Commission” taxes to help those unemployed (though I have never been unemployed, but have been unpaid many, many times). But since I have no lobby, I either, live within my means, or cry about being a victim, which has the same end result. Seems all I hear these days is about ‘social justice’, but when I ask ‘where is social responsibility?’ all I hear are crickets…

      • DrTomSchmidt January 15, 2018 at 1:55 pm #

        Not for nothing, but the Federal income tax rate on corporations was 15% on the first 50k of income, and 25% on the next 25k. I haven’t seen what the new rates are, but I’d bet it’s still 15% on the first 50k, and 21% on the rest.

        Meanwhile, a Turbo Tax exercise for u: if you take a married man earning a salary of 10K and pay him 80K in dividends (again, no update for the new tax law), what is his Federal income tax liability? Under existing tax law, 0.

        Assuming you have a C Corp, why pay yourself a salary at all? Couldn’t you Have everything be Corporate Income, pay out a dividend to the owner, and you avoid any SS/Medicare taxation at all, which is 15.3%? 90K of FEderal tax free income won’t buy you a yacht, but even in NYC 7500 a month, that cash is enough to live on.

    • JMR January 15, 2018 at 10:53 am #

      99%? Doubtful. First it’s not going to help anyone who makes more than minimum wage. Second, anyone who has given this any thought whatsoever realizes that as soon as minimum wage is raised businesses either leave the locality, cut workers, close down or turn to automation to protect the bottom line.

      Put that national 15 dollar minimum wage into place and watch how many more ordering kiosks appear in fast food places and retail locations followed by machines that are capable of making and delivering fast food to customers with minimal human intervention. The technology exists already and is just waiting for the time when it becomes economically beneficial to replace humans with machines.

      • aibohphobia January 15, 2018 at 3:31 pm #

        It might be a better idea to tax automation to the point at which it is cheaper to hire a human than lease a machine.

        I don’t know about the rest of you, but my experience of automation is that, with every addition of a computer, I end up having to do MUCH more, and get paid less for it. That does not even address the issue of those who lose their jobs to automation.

        • lbs January 16, 2018 at 1:20 pm #

          It may appear on the surface to be that way, but if that philosophy had governed over the last several hundred years, we would be living a brutal existence of grueling drudgery for our livelihoods and abandonment when we are too old or infirm to keep it up.

    • zekesdad January 15, 2018 at 11:01 am #

      In other words government should engage in price fixing for labor? I assume you know all the negative effects of raising the minimum wage;
      reducing the number of entry level jobs, hastening automation etc. I would argue that there should be no minimum wage. Let the labor market find it’s own equilibrium. I don’t think it would work out for most companies to offer $2.00 per hour. In this morning’s paper the front page of the business section has a story that says the construction industry in my city is 20,000 workers short despite wages rising 35% for most needed trades.

      • K-Dog January 15, 2018 at 11:26 am #

        Everything is bigger in Texas. Even the fibs. The article ends with:

        Tougher federal policies toward immigration have made the housing labor shortage even worse, he said.

        “About a quarter of the industry in non native born,” Dietz said. “The slowdown in immigration has had an impact on the ability of the labor force to grow.”

        Crone said coherent immigration policies would help the housing industry get the employees it needs.

        The agenda of your article is to open borders and bring down wages. An agenda to keep the American game of seeking unearned riches through speculation going in a real estate bubble about to pop. A bubble fueled by the investment of still other foreigners. A bubble that has increased housing starts in Dallas by 15% in one year as the article clearly states. A situation where shortages would be natural. It takes a whiled for RV nomads to get to where the jobs are.

        • DrTomSchmidt January 15, 2018 at 1:58 pm #

          Woof! That’s nailing it.

          I cannot imagine how horrified the spin doctors must be to see how easily and quickly people see through their lies, left and right.

    • mdl17576 January 15, 2018 at 11:30 am #

      I think instead of an increase in the minimum wage, it would be better to have a maximum wage, pegged to the ratio of highest to lowest paid person in the company (that wage would include annual bonuses and stock given as part of total compensation).

      We’d also benefit if employees were at least partial owners of the companies where they work. People tend to take better care of things they own, and tend to work harder if they see part of any increase to productivity.

      • DrTomSchmidt January 15, 2018 at 2:00 pm #

        Yes. It turns out that cooperative corporations, like Agway, can avoid the double taxation of dividends. Worker-owned cooperative corporations can be quite large and successful.

        You probably already know, but if not check out the Mondragon Group.

    • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 11:40 am #

      “Raise the minimum wage to a livable amount.”

      Ussi,
      Are you suggesting that those dysfunctional blacks would assimilate and become civil if only they were paid a living wage?

      • Elrond Hubbard January 15, 2018 at 12:41 pm #

        Leading question much, elysianfield? You should consider a second career in push-polling.

        “Q. What is your opinion of the failed Trump administration?”

        “Q. If I told you that over the past ten years in the state of Wisconsin, 97.5% of cases of public dessert rape were committed by Malbonian immigrants*, would your opinion of Malbonian immigrants be: (a) better; (b) worse; (c) the same?”

        “Chemtrails: threat, or menace?”

        * Referring to a single incident involving this one guy in Waukesha. The restaurant had to close down, and customer lawsuits are pending.

        • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 6:17 pm #

          The salient question is when will Canadians stop beating their wives? Have you stopped, and if so, when?

          I believe Ussi implied that the lives of Blacks would be better, more fruitful…maybe evenhappier with an increase in the minimum wage. Will giving them more money mitigate the negatives they face in their culture? Will their lives improve? Will money solve the issue of race in our country?

          “What do you tell a Canadian woman with two black eyes?

          “NOTHING! You already told her twice…ehh?

    • orbit7er January 15, 2018 at 11:58 am #

      How about we give all Americans the right to vote and have their vote be counted? In State after State progressives and Democrats get the majority of the votes but Republican gerrymandering and voter suppression results in 60% Republican representation.
      Puerto Rico gets no vote at all.
      The same for Pacific territories in the 21st Century…
      For years I have argued that if Democrats and progressives really wanted political power they should make Puerto Rico and DC States
      garnering 4 more Senators and countering all those empty states out West. And Guam etc should ALSO be States who might have an interest in not being flooded out of their homes by ocean rise from global warming.
      As far as Kunstler’s vaunted “cultural unity” I quote Pete Seeger:
      “You know this language that we speak is part Latin part German and Part Greek
      With Celtic and Arabic all in the heap, well amended by the people in the street
      Choctaw gave us the word “OK” Vamoos is a word from Mexico Way

      I love polish sausage I like spanish rice, pizza pie is also nice
      Corn and beans from the Indians here washed down by some German beer
      Marco Polo went by camel and pony and brought back to Italy the first macaroni…”

      Jazz, the Blues, the banjo, rice all came from the Africans forced to resettle in the USA…
      What is wrong with taking the best of many cultures and making new
      inventive combinations?
      We have to think out of our small boxes to survive the age of Peak Oil and Climate Change…

      • outsider January 15, 2018 at 1:18 pm #

        @orbit,

        I’d argue that Hawaii and Alaska should not have become states in the first place. They were made states at the post-WWII height of American hubris. They are way too distant from the mainland, and now, many natives there would like to leave the union. As for Puerto Rico – don’t make it a state, cut it loose from the American Empire. It will probably do better without the Imperial City micromanaging its economy. As for DC, no other city is its own state, so why should we make a difference for the nation’s capital? How about merging its votes into Maryland or Virginia?

      • DrTomSchmidt January 15, 2018 at 2:02 pm #

        How about letting DC residents vote as Marylanders for Senate and House? The VA part of DC is no longer Federal. Why is the MD part?

      • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

        A border should be a semi-permeable membrane, letting some things in and some things out. But most things are kept in and kept out. You seem to plea for no borders or order at all – and of course ignore all the horrors these groups have perpetrated on us – if you even believe in an “us” at all. And as if there could be an America without Us – the Whites, those for whom America was created and by whom America was created. The Native Americans in other words.

        Btw, things, techniques, and ideas can cross borders without tens of millions of people invading. Sorry.

      • shotho January 15, 2018 at 5:47 pm #

        That’s nice, a one party state. That should do wonders for democracy.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 8:59 pm #

          We weren’t supposed to be a Democracy anyway. It’s crap. And we weren’t supposed to have parties either. Your knowledge of American history doesn’t inspire confidence…

      • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 6:20 pm #

        “What is wrong with taking the best of many cultures and making new inventive combinations?”

        Orbit7er,
        Absolutely nothing, it is a great idea…you will still get your ass beat (metaphorically) for cultural appropriation, however….

    • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 1:56 pm #

      Please refer to my comment below about the lie of raising minimum wage.

    • Woody January 15, 2018 at 2:32 pm #

      Looks like some one needs to take Econ 101 again.

    • keenplanner January 16, 2018 at 3:00 pm #

      Although I support this concept, the disparity of what constitutes a living wage in this country makes it a more complex problem than paying everyone $15/hour.
      Like JHK says, it’s nearly impossible to have issues with the current system of housing and economic assistance without being branded a racist.
      In my patriarchal, white middle-class viewpoint, I’d say that Kunstler’s prompting everyone to “learn proper English” is a great start. From my observation, in most places, the economic/cultural/language divide is a much larger mobility barrier than race.
      For most industries in the US, “ghettospeak” will kill your job trajectory much more than any foreign, heavily-accented English.
      This may or may not be wrong/racist/whatever-ist, but it’s a quick solution to a pervasive problem that doesn’t diminish the person.
      Other societal problems? I’m largely ignorant about what to do, but it’s clear that the current system is severely damaging to many people, and statistics and disparities are truly heartbreaking and confounding.
      One part of the failed system seems to be the many, highly-educated people of all races who have built their glass castles by espousing patriarchal “solutions” to race issues that have actually worsened the problems. These are Kunstler’s table mates who tagged him a racist for merely identifying issues, and, although they are loathed to admit it, are part of the problem.

    • salpicon January 16, 2018 at 9:00 pm #

      Herr Kunstler,
      Must be nice to entertain, think or imagine from your very White and safe place in NY. I know you see us, or don’t you? ‘People of Color’, that is, because you certainly do not feel the darts and arrows they do, still do, 24/7.

    • salpicon January 16, 2018 at 9:10 pm #

      Herr Kunstler,
      Must be nice to entertain, think or imagine from your very White and safe place in NY. I know you see them, or don’t you? ‘People of Color’, that is, because you certainly do not feel the darts and arrows they do, still, even after all of these years 24/7.

      Must be nice Herr Kunstler to speak at liberty, without fear of retribution because you’re “white”.

      Must be nice, Herr Kunstler, to be able to discuss the fate, fortune and fear of those poor fellows, the ‘People of Color’,that is, because you’re not intelligent, nor sensitive enough to figure out that “white”is a color, too. But, no your stance comes from a perch of power and entitlement acquired at, literally, the expence of black beatings and smug looks.

      Have FUN, Herr Kunstler, yap all you want, for as long as you want, cause I don’t read your words for wisdom, but rather to use as fodder for venting my disgust at this shithole of a boat we are all trapped in.

      • Walter B January 17, 2018 at 11:34 am #

        Well it must really suck to not be a person, to not be a human being but to only be a color splotch on a pathetic canvas that could have been the portrait of a life. I have been a social outcast for damned near all of my life yet have never been reduced to being a color. I was always just Walt whether the person or persons I was dealing with were brown, black, yellow or something in between. Hell, most of the “African Americans” I have worked and socialized with were even PROUD to be black, so it must really, really suck to be a pathetic, angry loser like you. Perhaps you should consider violence as an outlet to your frustrations and if you do I would suggest you pick on a cop or better yet a group of cops when you do it. Perhaps you will get a big payday like Rodney did.

  2. Ol' Scratch January 15, 2018 at 10:09 am #

    Great post Jim. Should provoke a lively discussion (to say the least!) here for the next few days.

  3. robert magill January 15, 2018 at 10:22 am #

    We need a much clearer picture of what constitutes a ‘racist’ these days.
    I submit that African Americans are a tad worse off after eight years of Obama. Now tell me again, exactly; who is a racist?

    • shotho January 15, 2018 at 10:37 am #

      A racist is someone who feels that his racial type is superior to other racial types and acts upon that premise. It seems to permeate all racial types to some extent. Maybe a better question is this something endemic to human nature or can it be ameliorated or even eliminated? So far, in human history, the answer is not hopeful.

      • thwack January 15, 2018 at 10:40 am #

        A racist is someone who feels that his racial type is superior to other racial types and acts upon that premise.

        ******************

        Was this behavior discovered?

        or

        invented?

        • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 11:44 am #

          “Was this behavior discovered?

          or

          invented?

          Thwack,
          Mostly imagined, I would observe.

        • windward January 15, 2018 at 12:14 pm #

          “…others in the scientific community suggest that the idea of race often is used in a naive or simplistic way, and argue that, among humans, race has no taxonomic significance by pointing out that all living humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens, and (as far as applicable) subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens…” Wikipedia

          Although I wonder what “as far as applicable” means. I know what many people here will think it means, but we can ignore them.

          I also wonder how the Jews would have treated the Nazis if the Jews had been in power. As it happened, it was never possible for the Jews to do enough to get the Nazis off their backs. Those who are not white in the USA will never be able to do enough to get those who are off their backs. The election of Donald J. Trump is proof enough. JHK just makes the rubble bounce.

          We could have a decent minimum wage if we set a reasonable maximum wage. But in our plutocracy there will be no such legislation. Inequality will increase until this country explodes.

          Once Donald J. Trump and his henchpersons are headed to prison and Nancy Pelosi is president, it will be time to answer several questions:

          Will Trump be allowed to tweet?
          May he have a swastika in his cell? A KKK sticker? A poster of Hitler at a Nuremberg rally?
          How about pictures of Arnold Palmer? Miss America? Stalin? Putin? Those hydrogen bomb tests at Bikini Atoll?
          Should the prison be in Haiti?
          If there is a warning of imminent nuclear attack, should they give him a pair of sunglasses?
          Will McDonald’s stock tank?
          What will he do when he finds that his orange jump suit matches his visible parts?
          Will the tie industry suffer a downturn?
          Will they put Mike Pence in the next cell, or will Trump have to learn how to use the prison telegraph?
          Can he have a tape recorder?
          What if he finds out that his nuclear button is smaller than Kim Jong-un’s?
          Will they force him to read all those comments about him by foreigners?
          Will he tattoo ‘Do Not Resuscitate’ on his chest?
          Should Putin be allowed an annual visit?
          If Hillary delivered his food, would he eat it?

          • Ron Anselmo January 15, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

            Nancy Pelosi president? Surely you jest. That’s more comical than the remainder of your post. Good one.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 2:43 pm #

            Yes, Whites will be persecuted unto death by Non-Whites – unless and until they say Enough. As the great chief of the Cherokees said of the Blacks trying to claim membership in the Tribe, “Those Freemen will suck you dry.” The Cherokees denied the Blacks and saved themselves. We must do likewise.

          • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 12:12 pm #

            windward

            I have no answers but I rather enjoyed your questions.

            The poster of Miss America set me wondering if he’d get himself a rock hammer and dig his way out, Shawshank-style. He’d need a wider tunnel, obviously.

          • windward January 16, 2018 at 9:00 pm #

            Thanks for the encouragement, GreenAlba.

            I watched the recent PBS show “Rising From the Rails: The Story of the Pullman Porter.” Many here should be required to watch it. The current president of the United States is not fit to shine the shoes of a Pullman Porter.

            “…This gentleman sat at my station and we waiters have a badge with our name on it. So, he looked up at me and said ‘Jimmy, you look just like a nigger I met in Cincinnati. Are you that nigger?’ I said to him ‘No sir, I’m not that nigger. How can I serve you?’ I will always remember he ordered steak. That was the most expensive meal on the bill at that time. It cost a dollar and fifty cents. I said ‘I’ll serve you.’ And he says ‘You look like a nice nigger. Here, take ten dollars.’ I said ‘No, sir, I won’t take your ten dollars. I’ll wait on you, but I will not take your ten dollars, because I will not allow you to buy my integrity for ten dollars…’”

            Reverend James Kearse, former Car Waiter with the Pullman Porters.

          • windward January 17, 2018 at 10:49 am #

            GreenAlba, you raise another question. If he gets stuck in the tunnel, should we ask the president of Haiti what he would do?

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 1:01 pm #

            windward

            I think if he gets stuck in the tunnel, the President of Haiti should remind him that he ‘has a very good brain and has said a lot of things…’

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2lBz0532wU

            …and hope that some of them related to how to escape from the shithole you find yourself in.

        • shotho January 15, 2018 at 5:49 pm #

          Observed.

      • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 11:44 am #

        “A racist is someone who feels that his racial type is superior to other racial types AND acts upon that premise”

        Shotho,
        You will find damn few racists in our readership with that definition…I would doubt even Janos would fit within your metric.]

        I am, however completely in accord with your definition….

        Thank you.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 2:50 pm #

          That’s only because I lack the power. I do discriminate against them in small ways of course – mostly ignoring them or rejecting any kind of supposedly friendly overtures. None of this is to imply any desire to be unkind or overtly injurious. I just want them gone.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 15, 2018 at 1:38 pm #

        I would define a racist as: someone who takes the idea of race seriously, and who makes judgements on that basis. Pat Buchanan, for example, is America’s most respected racist.

        Implicit in the idea of “taking the idea of race seriously” is the assumption, or at least a degree of comfort with the idea, that there are different kinds of people. Speaking for myself, I reject the idea of there being different kinds of human being. For one thing, it’s factually wrong. For another, it violates the fundamental precept that all men (all people) are created equal. You know, the one the USA is founded on.

        Anticipating objections, universal equality doesn’t mean there are no differences between people. What it means is that those differences don’t affect how anyone is supposed to be treated. Equality under the law, whereby the law is the same for everyone, is the opposite of the inherited privilege of Europe that the Founding Fathers rebelled against, after all. Very nearly all Americans accept this, at least in theory, and still most often in fact. There is also a tiny fringe of anti-American louts and yahoos who reject their country’s founding principle, but their numbers are few and they are stupid.

        By my definition, what JHK said that those professors berated him for was not at all racist. So what were they objecting to? This post is getting long-winded. Maybe I’ll have more to say later, maybe not.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 2:56 pm #

          Your idea is more in line with current thinking. Note how there are many definitions and not just one. Thus any one can be used that is advantageous – and your poor benighted opponents are still assuming you are using Webster’s Dictionary.

          Are there different kinds of dogs? With different temperaments and abilities? Yes. So why not humans as well? We were separate from the Africans for tens of thousands of years. It would be very strange if there weren’t some differences – a denial of Darwin for starters. But of course there are differences and you are simply unwilling to admit it, perhaps even to yourself.

          America was founded by Whites and for Whites. That’s why they didn’t recognize Blacks and Indians are citizens or even human in extreme cases.

          • K-Dog January 15, 2018 at 4:38 pm #

            The problem with most dogs these days is massive breeding of unfit stock to fufill consumer demand has resulted in the average dog essentially being equivalent to a human with Down’s syndrome relative to past dogs. When dogs worked they were culled and only the fit passed on genes. No more, You are far enough down the un-selected pike Janos that you are like a mongoloid idiot modern dog. You claim a legacy you do not deserve.

          • lbs January 16, 2018 at 1:27 pm #

            But today there are members of minority groups who believe in the principles our country was founded on and millions of white leftists who do not. To choose your tribal affiliation based on race rather than ideology is idiotic.

        • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 6:35 pm #

          “I would define a racist as: someone who takes the idea of race seriously, and who makes judgements on that basis”

          Elrond,
          In our country, race is as serious as cancer…. Am I a racist because I exercise judgment, as avoiding Ghetto surface streets when I drive in Urban areas? Am I a racist even though I will treat any and all blacks that I meet with civility and humanity…until disabused?

          To be civil to someone that I do not wish to live in close proximity with is the essence of civilization. It is politics. If we were to meet, and I decided I did not like you for whatever reason (like having a picture of a duck on your money), you would only be aware of my enmity by my avoidance of future contact.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 17, 2018 at 11:40 am #

            From where I’m setting at this moment, I can see people of various different races. They and I all have our own home situations, our own creeds, etc., but we meet in a public realm on terms of equality and peace.

            If I were to accept your point of view, elysianfield, I would have to assume that everyone around me is inwardly seething with repressed animosity against me, presumably against each other to some degree or other, and against the unspeakably unjust circumstance that has thrust all of us into the same space at the same time. I’m sitting on a powder keg, blissfully unconcerned, as the fuse hisses and sputters and grows ever shorter. And this situation has been imposed by society’s mandarins, against the will of more sensible people.

            (Against the will of everyone except me, of course. Because as Janos will tell you — could hardly be constrained at gunpoint from telling you, so vociferous is he — I am a commissar type who serves and celebrates this self-evident evil for my own cynical and self-serving reasons.)

            I propose an alternate interpretation of my current situation: I’m just fine, the people around me are just fine, and most people are just fine most of the time. The rest of the time they’re not, but it’s the business of society to keep those tendencies in check so that life can function. It’s those — on whatever side of whichever lines of identity — who harbour animosity, and those who presume it on the part of others, who provoke responses and consequences.

            In short: in order to live at peace, you must first have peace in your heart. I read your words, elysianfield, as an indication you have something else there.

          • elysianfield January 18, 2018 at 11:27 am #

            “. I read your words, elysianfield, as an indication you have something else there.”

            Elrond,
            Are you saying that being civil to others is not enough, but rather one must evince an unreasoning acceptance of all traits, even those inimical to society? One must embrace the flaws of humanity? Provide excuses and forgive?

            Janos is wrong about you being a commie…you are a Saint….

            ” who harbour animosity, and those who presume it on the part of others, who provoke responses and consequences.”

            Presume it on the part of others. Yes, in this you are correct, as you assume my observations, throughout 70 years of life, are of little value.

        • cbeard January 16, 2018 at 10:32 am #

          Pat Buchanan is a realist as am I. Janos exhibits a lot of realism also. I wouldn’t go quite so far as I have some black friends and some acquaintance’s. There is a difference. Most of what Buchanan and Janos espouse is nothing but the truth. A lot of people can’t handle the truth.

        • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 3:05 pm #

          Elrond

          “By my definition, what JHK said that those professors berated him for was not at all racist. So what were they objecting to?”

          Nor mine. Their arguments remind me of similar ones that took place here, but more like 30 years ago than three. They weren’t in regard to ethnic minorities but to children speaking regional dialects. It was thought to be a put-down to insist they speak in Standard English.

          Most people probably thought then – and probably think even more so now – that regional dialects are part of the rich tapestry of life, but aren’t necessarily the best way to present yourself at an interview. In fact regional dialects are more celebrated than ever, I’d say. But nobody argues that children aren’t empowered by being able to change dialect or register when appropriate. Or at least I haven’t heard it argued for some time.

          There’s an esoteric argument to be had around whether Lowland Scots is a dialect of English or a separate Germanic language. Robert Burns’ poetry might well be less memorable had he not written it in a light Scots dialect, which, in addition to being his own, gives it a certain pithy exoticism around the world, but he wrote political and social tracts in Standard English too. The trick is being able to toggle between the two as needed, which is presumably the same for black kids who like their own lingo but are prepared to be pragmatic.

          My family moved to England when I was four. I started school there and, on my first day, someone ‘corrected’ something I said and I was mortified (even though I had nothing more than a mild accent). By the end of the week I spoke pure ‘Tees-side’ like my classmates. But my mother hated it (and was quite domineering!) so I ended up talking with a Scottish accent at home and northern English at school. I’m sure being bidialectal at the age of four gave me a good ear for when I started learning other languages!

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

            NB there’s a difference between accents and dialects, obviously. When Rabbie spoke in Standard English he’d still have had his Scottish accent, as I do.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 18, 2018 at 11:54 am #

            My parents both grew up in the most rural part of rural Cape Breton. My mother’s mother spoke only Gaelic as a girl. She learned English at school as a second language, owing to a concerted effort at the time to stamp out use of Gaelic, which was dismissed as ‘old-fashioned’. Times have changed, and now there is a concerted effort to recover the language before it is lost altogether (as I understand it is, or nearly so, in the islands where it originated).

            The question of what those professors were objecting to is still on the floor. To put it succinctly, there is both a question of identity, and a question of power and/or privilege, that arise in that situation.

            Regarding identity, elysianfield tells us that in America, race is as serious as cancer; Pat Buchanan declares that “Race Matters”. Both are correct, in the sense that an exaggerated identity consciousness is a thing that a lot of people have; that the construct of race is a major way they express that consciousness; and that this has consequences (the ‘cancer’) for everyone. These consequences are too well known to need spelling out, but they make people very sensitive when they see identity boundaries being crossed, and liable to object to small things if they perceive them as transgressions. Hence the professors jumping down JHK’s throat.

            Regarding power and privilege, on the other hand, it is a fact that JHK speaks one way and much of the African American population speaks another. It is also a fact that JHK’s manner of speech corresponds to what is considered standard, which makes him privileged with respect to the people he was lecturing about. (Again, ‘privileged’ means I am subject to one set of rules or expectations, you are subject to another, and if that makes me better off, then I guess it just sucks to be you.) Had I been there, I would have defended JHK on all points except this last one. He really needs to check himself and make sure he considers the actual experience of everyone involved. It’s not as if black people in the United States are unaware of how language is used against them, or that they have no experience with code-switching. They certainly don’t need a lecture about it from a social critic who treats them as a problem to be corrected, rather than as participants in the society.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 2:40 pm #

        So Blacks can’t sprint better than Whites? Of course they can. So maybe Whites can do some things better than Blacks – like thinking. Your implied doctrine of Equality is not a fact, but a an incorrect metaphysic. Nothing on Earth is equal in the sense you mean it.

        • GreenAlba January 15, 2018 at 3:00 pm #

          Janos, did you manage to miss the sentence that said…

          ‘Anticipating objections, universal equality doesn’t mean there are no differences between people…’

          …or are you just doing your usual thing of telling people what they think or even what they’ve just said?

          Be careful of phrases like ‘your implied doctrine of Equality’, because it’s a Janosism. Maybe with some reflection, you’ll get better at spotting Janosims yourself, with a view to reducing their frequency and maybe, at some distant time in the future, of avoiding them altogether.

          I have two children, born of the same mother and father. One is much brighter academically than the other and their lives are very different because of that.

          They have the same value as human beings and as daughters. Harking back to one of your previous propositions, they both deserve a vote on how the polity works within which they live.

          “Nothing on Earth is equal *in the sense you mean it*.”

          There goes another one… Are you getting the pattern yet?

          • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 6:16 pm #

            Ok, so you admit that Blacks on average sprint faster than Whites. Or to be more specific, Blacks of West or Central African descent?

            And if you admit that racial difference, are you willing to admit Whites might be better than Blacks at something? If not, why not. Show your work.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 6:39 pm #

            After all, since individuals vary like your kids (adopted Blacks?), why not groups? If an individual variation is valuable in a given environment, individuals with that trait will flourish and breed more, thus over time creating groups with that trait as the norm. This is Darwinism 101, not “Janosism”. And over great lengths of time, whole races over a broad area.

            Is it “racist” to say Blacks have Black skin and thus a greater tolerance of the Sun? Is this an “overgeneralization”? Are Whites just failed Blacks? Or do we have assets of our own?

            As Chesterton predicted, the time has come when simply saying “grass is green” will be a matter of swords being drawn.

          • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 9:50 am #

            Janos, I don’t recall discussing athleticism at all, but whatever…

            A Janosism, since you seem to be missing the point (you could miss a point if you were impaled on it), is nothing more complicated than crediting a person with saying, thinking or believing something they have not said and have not claimed to believe or think.

            “After all, since individuals vary like your kids (adopted Blacks?)”

            Truly, Janos, if you didn’t exist, someone would have to invent you.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 1:34 pm #

            Yeah you weren’t discussing athleticism – I brought it up as an example of a principle, namely that group traits exist. But evidently you don’t want to have a conversation since you won’t recognize patterns or principles unless they favor your premises.

            Individuals vary and thus groups being made up of individuals may vary as well – and will so if the Environment dictates that some variations are advantageous. Or the unique traits of a group might mostly come from in breeding within that group, whether they unique traits are advantageous or not. Or a combination of both of these patterns.

    • Ol' Scratch January 15, 2018 at 10:56 am #

      I would submit that racism is just a convenient head fake used by the elite to divide the lower class masses. Classism, affecting all races, is the real cause that they dare not let be exposed. Wisely, they know that working class whites foolishly identify with their whiteness, so they use that fact to their advantage. Working class whites have no more in common with buttoned down corporate culture than the peoples of color that they denigrate so willingly, but their foolish pride won’t let them admit it, even after their white bread elected heros fuck them in the ass time and time again.

      Granted, blacks in particular, have failed to assimilate for the most part (and I’m not sure I blame them), but what’s to be done about it now at this late date? They’re not going to be shipped back to where they came from, so the multicultural horse seems to be out of the barn for good. Me? I’d focus on the one genuine threat to us all: the moneyed ultra elite and their corporate financial empires. They, regardless of race, need to be taken down post haste and expunged from the face of the earth.

      • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 11:47 am #

        Nick O Demus,
        Let us know when one of the moneyed ultra elite beats your ass over some micro-egression.

        The Ultra Elite are not THE problem…just one of many….

        • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 11:48 am #

          aggression…forgive me….

      • thwack January 15, 2018 at 12:39 pm #

        “Granted, Jews in particular, have failed to assimilate for the most part” — Paul Joseph Goebbels

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 2:57 pm #

          Taking over is not assimilating.

          • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 6:39 pm #

            Janos,
            Being successful in an alien culture IS assimilation of a sort. The closely held beliefs of superiority held by any other culture can only be matched by our own feelings of superiority…you know, a Human thang…,

          • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 9:03 pm #

            Taking over is taking over. German soldiers got back from WW1 to find most professional positions held by Jews. Then the economy tanked and Jews from outside Germany started buying up everything for pennies.

      • outsider January 15, 2018 at 1:32 pm #

        @Scratch,
        Just how many do you plan to hang?

      • patrickd January 15, 2018 at 1:59 pm #

        Head fake indeed…
        Headlines saying that Trump is a racist are a diversion, based on the insinuation and assumption that the US is not racist. The USA is a racist terrorist organization since its inception. The exceptional nation is intent on maintaining its global hegemony, which is why it has bases all over the world, especially the ones surrounding countries that don’t submit to every American demand (Russia, China, Iran). Its goal is global domination by death, destruction, and chaos.

        It’s astonishing that so many commenters here on Jim’s site, and even Jim himself, are so focused on voting! Folks, voting is for democracies. This polity called the USA is a democracy in lip service only. So why vote? (Rhetorical.) The actual mechanisms of power exclude “the people”; they include only the banking families and all the hierarchy of those who manage the economy for them. Jim has gotten it right week after week, for years now, that this economy is a massive looting operation. What he hasn’t gotten right is the need to improve the US political system. What is needed, IMO, is the replacement (not improvement) of this bunch of looters with a true representative government. I believe that would be a revolution. Those in power must be brought to justice for the genocide of scores of millions of non-whites since 1776. I don’t see how it could be done, but I believe that’s what is required. Those in power are criminals, and they need to be brought to justice. Americans need to rise up, demand justice, and create a government that is based on humanity’s needs, not bankers’ greeds.

        I don’t see much revolutionary fervor in people I know, so probably the long emergency will continue to develop, the multi-polar world order will continue to emerge, and the US will continue to contract in its ability to do wholesale murder in MENA. Likewise, the fear of the US will continue to disappear (witness Kim-Jung Un laughing in Uncle Sam’s face, and Russia, China, and Iran being bold in the face of US threats), as the US increasingly becomes the laughingstock of the world.

        But maybe I’m wrong about the people rising up. I know that if the bankers finally do steal SS, there will be millions of Americans hitting the road to find banker decorations for lamp posts. I hope it doesn’t come to that.

        • shotho January 15, 2018 at 5:58 pm #

          Apres Des Etats-Unis, la deluge.

    • jloughrey January 16, 2018 at 12:21 am #

      You are correct that the lives of blacks were not improved under Obama. I remember the high expectations on the night of his first inauguration. A black man in the White House! It was thought that Obama’s rising tide would lift all black boats, which never happened. I have always wondered why Obama was never seen or acknowledged as a white man. After all, he is half white.

  4. noel bodie January 15, 2018 at 10:26 am #

    Is it too much to ask that the peeps whose salary,pensions,health care and perqs WE THE PEOPLE pay for as our elected gov officers have the courtesy to NOT LIE to us? Senator Perdue from Georgia would have us believe he was sitting at a meeting with the FAPGP(fat assed pussy grabber prez) and DID NOT HEAR him say “shithole”? He was on National tv saying that yesterday. If the guy’s hearing is so bad, perhaps the good folk of Georgia should recall him for an inability to take a meaningful part in Senate debateon their behalf.

    • shotho January 15, 2018 at 10:40 am #

      Maybe he didn’t hear it. And since you are so proficient in describing presidents, how would you describe Obama and Clinton?

      • noel bodie January 15, 2018 at 10:52 am #

        Proficient? You give me too much credit I should have added (L) for LAZY

    • draupnir January 15, 2018 at 11:49 am #

      What’s wrong with calling a shithole country a shithole other than that it’s vulgar? Trump, of course, is a true vulgarian, blunt and without a shred of diplomacy. He didn’t actually call the people of Haiti shitholes, though you could, of course infer that if you stretched it a bit. You really need to consider that voters saw him for what he was (after all, he put himself out there with all his flaws on full display) AND VOTED FOR HIM ANYWAY. We knew what we were getting when we voted for him, but the Democrats offered up a candidate who was so flawed, I was personally insulted. Apparently, they believed they could offer up anybody, and we’d hold our noses and vote for their candidate..

      We’re still getting shafted, of course, but at least we’re being amused.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:09 pm #

      Those places are shitholes. I hope he did say it.

      • outsider January 15, 2018 at 7:51 pm #

        Well, I understand that there is no recording. And the person who told the press was noted Trump-hater, democrat Senator Dick Durbin. All the rest present were republicans, and none, I think, said that Trump phrased it in the way that Durbin said. Why should such a partisan who wants to derail the Trump agenda be automatically believed?

  5. erik January 15, 2018 at 10:30 am #

    A predictable stale and stupid idea from “Ussi”, but a great post from Jim today about an issue that needs expression.

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  6. DrGonzo January 15, 2018 at 10:34 am #

    I’m old enough to remember when an entire generation or two of nonviolent heroin users were dismissed as irresponsible drug addicts, and thrown into prison in unprecedented numbers. Most were black.

    Now that our massive national abuse of heroin and associate opioids is predominantly occurring among white people, from Appalachia to Maine to Oklahoma City to Fargo, it’s considered a “national health epidemic” that requires “aggressive and compassionate treatment”.

    I don’t know what America’s solution for our current opioid epidemic will be … but it won’t involve throwing an entire generation of white drug abusers in prison.

    • thwack January 15, 2018 at 10:37 am #

      I don’t know what America’s solution for our current opioid epidemic will be … but it won’t involve throwing an entire generation of white drug abusers in prison.

      ********

      Why not?

      • DrGonzo January 15, 2018 at 10:47 am #

        Guess.

        • thwack January 15, 2018 at 10:55 am #

          Are you a white person?

      • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 11:50 am #

        “I don’t know what America’s solution for our current opioid epidemic will be … but it won’t involve throwing an entire generation of white drug abusers in prison.

        Why not?

        Thwack,
        Currently, that is the plan.

    • GreenAlba January 15, 2018 at 10:54 am #

      “but it won’t involve throwing an entire generation of white drug abusers in prison.”

      Nor even an entire family which, to a significant extent, created the epidemic in the first place and made billions from it:

      https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/30/the-family-that-built-an-empire-of-pain

    • inlaw123 January 15, 2018 at 11:16 am #

      My take on the main problem of the conditions of black people has been that those running the show from behind the curtain have intended for blacks to remain outside the common semblance of our society. We know that black men have mostly been relegated to the position of uneducated, can’t find a decent job men with criminal records from an early age.

      Why is this happening and who benefits from this situation? The Powers That Be need a class of people who are desperate to survive by any means. By any means means by being involved in prostitution, illegal gambling and drug distribution.

      The media is featuring programs that glamorize blacks who make a living from illegal means. Does anyone think that that doesn’t impress men who see themselves at the bottom of society’s heap. These programs are not there merely for entertainment purposes, but to appeal to those on the bottom rung. Got to keep those drugs [and the immense profits] flowing.

      That’s the main reason we have had such lax immigration controls. The PTB needed the structure of cartel gang members across the country to facilitate the mass distribution of drugs and black men who have no other way to support themselves are seen as the base for final distribution.

      The PTB have utilized the CIA for bringing in massive amounts of illegal narcotics for Americans. We sure can’t blame blacks for importing all those illegal drugs. How many black people do you know that have a yacht, submarine, or an airplane capable of smuggling in a ton of heroin, pot, opioids, etc.?

      We quibble over whether the black community is at fault and needs to straighten themselves out or, perhaps, it is welfare or affirmative action that is to blame. I don’t think it is any of that. I think black people are exactly where the real world controllers in Davos Switzerland and the Vatican want them to be–an integral link in their massive criminal enterprise.

    • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 3:08 pm #

      There will be no cure Doc, sorry. Being from a street cop family, I warned the people here in Hunterdon County 20 years ago as the president of the County PTA that we had a serious heroin problem. I was dismissed and derided as a doomsayer, a glass half empty loser. No one would admit it much less address it and it was ignored until today, when it can no longer be ignored. But today we have Narcan and the LE and EMT people administer it every day. I was told recently by an ER RN that the local hospital sees (3) OD’s per day. The county lost (11) deaths to OD this last Summer alone. There are no proposed solutions and the only effort is in fund raising, taxation, and “education”. In the 60’s junkies died off which in a sad kind of way limited the problem. Today they cannot even do that. We are all fucked.

  7. tractorguy January 15, 2018 at 10:36 am #

    “I don’t believe these policies were concocted deliberately to keep people-of-color down”

    Well, there is always that quote attributed to LBJ about having a certain group voting Democrat for the next 200 years.

    • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 3:31 pm #

      When statistics are kept on any particular achievement or lack of achievement and a list is made of successes and failures, patterns will be established as to how many of what race or gender or height or weight or whatever do well or do poorly in all of the categories charted. The heart of the whining in this “racist” issue seems to be that blacks, or browns, or negroes, or African Americans or whatever it is they are calling themselves today, appear at the bottom of the charts in numbers that do not make them happy and somehow this is MY fault. When I was young and tried to make excuses why I did not do well on a test or did not do a good enough job mowing the lawn, I was never able to come up with an excuse or a patsy to blame that would take the heat off of me and my lack of achievement. There must be something wrong with me because I never had a problem with that, in fact, it always motivated me onwards to do better next time. It must just be me, right?

  8. jayrome January 15, 2018 at 10:37 am #

    Jim, your suggestion of teaching proper spoken and written English is spot on, in my opinion.
    Language usage is part of Logos. It shapes thoughts and telegraphs ideas to others to understand and stimulate imagination. Language of texting short cuts and phonetic license plates, acronyms and fusion-words somehow short circuits clarity of thought. Language and Mind are inextricably linked, as you well know.
    Where is The Trivium???

    • shotho January 15, 2018 at 10:43 am #

      Yes, language is the mother of thought. As you speak, so shall you think and, then, act.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 15, 2018 at 2:27 pm #

      jayrome, I don’t see any evidence for your assertion that certain uses of language or means of expression “short [circuit] clarity of thought”.

      The mere fact that a thought or an idea is expressed in a fashion different from years past — because it uses new modes of expression that hadn’t been invented back then — demonstrates nothing at all about the quality of the thought itself. Maybe the thought being expressed actually is incoherent; or maybe it’s very clear and insightful indeed, and it’s you who can’t tell because you’re not versed in the lingo.

      Here, check this out sometime:

      https://www.abebooks.com/9780062585066/Pl8Spk-California-Vanity-Plates-Retell-0062585061/plp

      https://www.poetryfoundation.org/harriet/2007/10/quick-review-04

      When understood correctly and used well, texting shortcuts and vanity license plates don’t have to be bad for the language; they can even be rich new areas of creative expression that add to the old ones, not take away. A thought well expressed is a wonderful thing, and worth preserving. But because human beings are creative, language changes — and it never stops changing. It’s the business of those of us who use and love language to keep in mind that language is a reflection of the creativity each one of us possesses in our degree. It should a living thing, not be an embalmed heirloom.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:17 pm #

        Black English is extremely imprecise and emotionally focused. Its speakers are incapable of clear thought due to the language itself – even if the individual in question is capable, which of course, most Blacks are not. Thus traditional Black languages are also lacking. Whites who create dictionaries for Black African languages end up creating concepts that the Blacks simply didn’t have.

        Blacks took English and adapted it for their own use – impoverishing it in the process. But in so doing, they remained true to themselves and expressed their true and impoverished nature – at least from a Western conceptual point of view.

      • shotho January 15, 2018 at 6:07 pm #

        Of course, language is constantly changing. For the last several generations, it has been devolving in this country so that now the average teenager has 78 words in his common vocabulary. Now, maybe those 78 words are all he really needs to express himself on a level high enough to convey an understanding of ideas that produce and ennoble. Doubtful.

  9. ozone January 15, 2018 at 10:41 am #

    Jim,
    The [former] tactic of victimhood has now become ingrained as the go-to kneejerk and button-push. (After all, it appears to be effective, doesn’t it?) This disease has spread to anyone with a grievance (piffling or profound) of any stripe you’d care to name.

    Now I would contend that this victimhood whine is but a *symptom* of what has become the national culture. Namely, the chasing of money and the commodification of damn-near everything. (The ol’, “You’ve got yours; where’s mine?” whine of 3 and 4 yr.-olds.) Notice that hardly anyone blames their “condition” (whatever that might be) on their own choices; it’s somebody else whodunnit.

    This is what happens to a [formerly] common culture when we make wealth the ultimate arbiter and indicator of human worth.
    So Long, Old Paint.

    • TiredOfTheTreadmill January 15, 2018 at 11:03 am #

      Agreed, with a few differences. It’s not just “you got yours, where’s mine?” It’s also, “I got mine, screw you” and “winner takes all” then hires a few lobbyists and politicians to ensure the “all” keeps flowing to only them. As such, glorified victimhood became the preferred method of fighting back for the vast swath of temporarily embarrassed millionaires who have been so brainwashed by their owners, thinking outside the box is no longer possible.

      • ozone January 15, 2018 at 11:08 am #

        Nice addendum, TofTT. Thanks.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:22 pm #

      Yes, is race going to be forgotten a la Dr King as long as being Black is so richly awarded in admission and hiring? And as long as Black Victimhood is sacred and “racist” is a magic word that makes Whites crawl and empty their wallets?

      I think not!

    • ozone January 16, 2018 at 11:59 am #

      So, handily (and mendaciously) missing the point, the whining victim appears.

  10. beantownbill. January 15, 2018 at 10:42 am #

    My sense is that the root cause of racism is xenophobia, which is defined as distrust or fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange. Whites were the group that imported blacks to the America’s, and to this day have tried to deal with the result – mostly ineffectually.

    We’ve had considerable national discussions on racism, but to this date we haven’t been able to resolve the issue. I fear that after 450 years, we won’t be able to. You can’t legislate away a problem based on how humans are hard-wired. We need a whole new approach, whatever that may be.

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    • Robert White January 15, 2018 at 11:26 am #

      All behaviour is learned behaviour, Beantown B, and as learned behaviour, it can be unlearned. Learning Theory, and the process of unlearning, is best exemplified by Albert Bandura, who is the grandfather of Learning Theory in Experimental Psychology. Moreover, the greatest theorist on racism that I have ever encountered is Professor Emeritus Gordon Allport who has been instrumentally productive with respect to reversing learned racist behaviour across America & Europe.

      RW

      • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 11:58 am #

        RW,
        I expect getting abused in a school yard is a learning experience…and one difficult to unlearn. I would also expect the good professor Allport does not live in a Ghetto?

        Kumbaya, M’Lord, Kumbaya….

      • Elrond Hubbard January 15, 2018 at 2:50 pm #

        The idea that all behavior is learned is superficially attractive but, I think, incorrect. Evolutionary psychologists talk about ‘prepared learning‘; i.e., our biology primes and prepares us to learn certain things in certain ways and not in others. This is certainly the case for language acquisition, whereby children spontaneously learn to use the language they’re surrounded with, completely without formal lessons or schooling — an ability that mostly disappears after a few years.

        Regarding the origins of racism and prejudice, infants of 6 to 9 months of age show a preference for the faces of people from their own race and bias against faces different from the child’s own race. It’s hard to see how this could be ‘learned behaviour’ at that age; more likely it’s related to instinctive territoriality and xenophobia going back to our primate ancestors. Nor do children instinctively know what race they ‘are’; rather, the reaction is primed by the faces they actually see around them, namely their mother, father, family members, and whoever else. This natural reaction by a child may be cultivated by the child’s family, peer group and experiences, making for a bigoted grown-up; or it may be curbed by thoughtful parents, if their child gets to see a wide variety of people’s faces and becomes comfortable with all of them. But the reaction itself comes, well, naturally.

        Remarkably, newborn babies are generally able to reflexively move themselves when immersed in water, changing their respiration and heart rate. They do this even if their mothers haven’t played Bach for them in the womb. These reflexes also go away with time, but they’re not learned; they’re factory-original.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:25 pm #

          So what conclusions do you draw from this? If Race is so deeply hardwired, is it wise or even possible to ignore it as Dr King “seemed” to be saying?

          Little Black children are more afraid of Black faces than White faces. Very wise….

      • wolfbay January 15, 2018 at 6:37 pm #

        In nature there are many examples of complex behaviors that are genetically determined. Honey bees for example perform a dance that allows other workers to find a nectar source.Learning is important in humans but it’s very possible there are genetically determined behaviors as well.

        • Sean Coleman January 16, 2018 at 4:21 pm #

          I agree all behaviour is not learnt. (Who says so and why? My expectation is that such statements are ideological in that they look for evidence and reasoning to back the preferred outcome.)

          However I disagree that the balance is genetically determined. I am persuaded by Rupert Sheldrake’s hypothesis (The Science Delusion) that many characteristics are inherited but by means of a thing he calls (I think he came up with it, but I may be wrong) ‘morphic resonance’. This would explain such phenomena as new crystals of certain chemical compounds appearing in different laboratories around the world while the previous crystal can no longer be obtained (sceptics argue that there must be ‘seeding’ by means of miniscule airborne particles).

          Another example would be learnt behaviour by animals, such as rats learning a particular trick in, say, New York and another adding the next piece of skill in, say, Tokyo. An example closer to home here in Europe would be the curious behaviour which tits (the birds) started showing in England in my childhood when they would peck through the silver foil of bottles of milk left on the doorstep by the milkman on his rounds. This behaviour (all this is from memory of Sheldrake’s book) spread very quickly, perhaps instantaneously, to countries like Holland.

          But to get back to the statement “All behaviour is learnt behaviour” I would be highly sceptical of it.

          Writing this I remember watching a tv science programme when I was about fourteen, say 1972. It was about the evolution of life in the warm primaeval swamps millions of years ago. A group of “volunteers’ (American of course) were sitting around a large bowl with a mix of different, highly-coloured plastic beads, recreating the imagined random combination of carbon-based molecules which started off the whole thing. I can see them now in my mind’s eye: solemn, lanky young men with long, greasy hair (and probably a beard or moustache or two), Their female partners (the introverts) gaunt and unattractive, with long, lanky, even greasier hair. The room might have been a laboratory, or a classroom, but I like to think it was a replica of a wig-wam. I had an idea this was the reason even then but I am certain now.

          I cannot watch science programmes now because they appear part-evangelical and part-comedy.

    • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 11:55 am #

      “My sense is that the root cause of racism is xenophobia, which is defined as distrust or fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange”

      Bill,
      Koreans are not distrusted nor feared as a knee-jerk reaction…neither are Paki’s, Indians, Japanese, nor Chinese. Why Blacks, save their oft times dysfunction?

      • Elrond Hubbard January 15, 2018 at 2:54 pm #

        You’re right, elysianfield, it has to be the black people. It couldn’t possibly be the person generalizing about black people.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:26 pm #

          You are begging the question. Why don’t we do that about these other groups? Why do we focus on Blacks? And why do other groups do the same after exposure to them?

  11. TiredOfTheTreadmill January 15, 2018 at 10:46 am #

    It is interesting that the more racism was brought to the forefront the past few years for people to argue and fight about, the gap between the ultra-wealthy and everyone else has grown much, much wider. Makes me wonder if it’s all a distraction created by the opportunists, or just exploited by them. It won’t matter either way as the liberals, who used to make such observations, will not adjust their view of reality for fear of ostracism. Meanwhile, conservatism is based on hierarchy and class stratification, making them the useful dupes of the owners anyway.

    It appears things will stay in their current configuration until a black swan cruises into view, lands, and kicks some ass. 2018 sure looks to be a prime year for black swan watching.

    • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 12:55 pm #

      Unfortunately the uber-wealthy have more than enough smarts, resources and power to assure that they are never targeted for the manipulators that they really are. Increasing minimum wage is a suggestion made by small thinkers who fail to comprehend that when “minimum wages” increase, minimum wage jobs decrease and the cost of living for those making minimum wage goes nowhere but up. Those surviving at “minimum” will always be at the bottom, that is what “minimum” is by definition, it is the least! How big of a paycheck should a society give to an individual whose abilities include sitting on the couch and fornicating for a living and watching TV? Seriously? The argument can be made of course that such “limited talent” individuals do provide great value to the police agencies, the for profit prison system and the herd of public assistance lawyers out there, but should we really be doing this? I wonder.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:30 pm #

        All these jobs are ceasing to exist because of robots. It’s leisure or death as long as the profit motive is sacrosanct. Unless you want to go National Socialist and throw the whole board over.

    • outsider January 15, 2018 at 2:08 pm #

      Yes, if Trump is impeached this year, in spite of republican majorities in both parties, it will be the Waterloo of the greedy GOP. As a conservative myself, I can’t wait, as the corporate controlled GOP is standing in the way of a true America First party. Maybe Don Jr. can head it, although neither Ivanka nor Jared should be allowed within 1000 yards of the WH.

  12. janet January 15, 2018 at 10:47 am #

    “American black people are still under-represented in the professions, except in government jobs” –JHK

    Whites in power positions (those who make hiring decisions), in corporations with all-white boards of directors, have created toxic workplaces where harassment, stereotyping and bullying occur, effectively driving away women and people of color… except, as JHK notes, in government jobs.

    So American Black people have had to create their own professional organizations to support those who are working in professions controlled by whites. For example, the National Association of Black Accountants represents more than 200,000 African American professionals in accounting and finance; the National Society of Black Engineers represents more than 35,700 members; the National Black Nurses Association has 80 chapters representing more than 150,000 African American nurses.

    Whether it be in finance, engineering, or health, there are Black professionals in growing numbers. There is historic evidence of progress regarding Blacks in professions. There is also evidence of a lessening of racist attitudes:

    In 1940, 60 percent of employed Black women worked as domestic servants. Today the number is down to 2.2 percent. Today 60 percent of employed Black women hold white-collar jobs.

    In 1958, 44 percent of whites said they would move if a Black family became their next door neighbor. Today the figure is 1 percent.

    In 1964, the year the great Civil Rights Act was passed, only 18 percent of whites claimed to have a friend who was Black; today 86 percent say they do, while 87 percent of Blacks assert they have white friends.

    The racism-O-Rama is dying down. Data suggests younger people are becoming increasingly less racist. Young folk are far more tolerant than older generations, and this trend seems poised to continue.

    • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 1:48 pm #

      Perhaps you should start a movement that, just as the Wizard of Oz bestowed brains with a diploma, heart with a memorial, and courage with a medal, issues doctors by stethoscopes, teachers by books, and millwrights by welding rigs. I would totally support a program that simply gave high paying jobs to millions of people of color with no other requirement than they be of color. If this sounds ridiculous, it is not really because in the end the market always corrects and those that CAN and who DO are required while those that cannot and don’t fall on their faces. If this new system would, if nothing else, put a lid on the whiners and shut them the fuck up, it would be well worth the cost. Seeing that the Federal Reserve just prints the shit up out of thin air any, what it the risk? Let’s DO IT!

    • shotho January 15, 2018 at 6:15 pm #

      Indeed, there has been progress and there will be more as the black family remembers its origins.
      I grew up in the segregated South and remember the ‘separate but equal facilities’. Now, I see young blacks and whites enjoying each others’ company with total acceptance.

  13. akmofo January 15, 2018 at 10:53 am #

    It didn’t occur to me then, but now it really strikes me how few if any blacks I encountered during my travels in the States. I didn’t see any blacks in any of the National and State parks I visited, and I visited many. I didn’t see any blacks in the affluent West Coast towns where I stayed. I didn’t see any blacks in the affluent East Coast towns where I stayed. I didn’t see any blacks in any of the vacation spots I visited.

    In fact, I didn’t see any blacks in any of my weeks long vacations in the US, except the air ports. Where are all the blacks? Seems to me white America has done a very good job hiding blacks on their own “Indian reservation”.

    Does that mean America is fundamentally racist? Well, how else to explain this?

    • thwack January 15, 2018 at 11:04 am #

      Lots of black people “encounter” few if any white people in their daily lives; does this mean white supremacy doesn’t exist?

      Or

      or,

      does this mean the system of white supremacy has been refined to the point the words black people use have taken the place of actual white supremacists?

      • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 11:29 am #

        Strange questions you ask. You would trade places with those in the black ghettos?

        • thwack January 15, 2018 at 11:42 am #

          Whats the matter akmofo?

          are you “astounded” by my questions?

          “it still astounds me that any professional educator would mount an argument against developing skills in the language of this country. That’s something I would definitely blame white people for.”– JHK

          • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 12:00 pm #

            Yes, I am astounded. It reminds me of some previous contributor to the previous blog post asking how the fuck is the US an Empire? The level of denial with some people is larger the nile. Either that, or they’re just plain old german reptilians pretending to be human.

          • thwack January 15, 2018 at 12:31 pm #

            How can a person escape a concentration camp if all the words they have been taught not only function in support and defense of the concentration camp; but also effectively confuse and mislead them regarding what a concentration camp is, and how it works?

          • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 1:09 pm #

            You don’t escape a concentration camp, you obliterate it out of existence. Since you racist fucks built it, you racist fucks should unbuilt it.

          • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 1:12 pm #

            Germans are reptilian akmoto? Wow, whose is the racist now? Oh wait a second, Germans are white so they have no rights, I forgot. Most of us who moved out of urban areas into the hinterlands did so because we could not afford the ridiculous housing and costs of living in urban places, and we even stayed in the urban environment until well after the race riots of the late sixties. That was ” race” riots, NOT “racist” riots, BTW. I suppose they were not racist riots because most of those murders were black also so that does not count.

            If you want to see blacks in America I suggest you visit Newark, Camden, Trenton, Paterson or Irvington New Jersey. There are still plenty in those places and they all live pretty much peacefully, at least the white people do not bother them (the immigrants may be a problem for them though) and those of us out here in the Hinterlands even pay for their schooling whether it is working or not.

          • outsider January 15, 2018 at 2:25 pm #

            I can’t believe all the anti-white racism that JHK’s excellent column has engendered today. I’d expect it out of Janet, but I’m a little dumbfounded by some of the others.

          • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 7:25 pm #

            “How can a person escape a concentration camp if all the words they have been taught not only function in support and defense of the concentration camp; but also effectively confuse and mislead them regarding what a concentration camp is, and how it works?”

            Thwack,
            THAT statement is the essence of Newspeak…the language Orwell wrote of.

            If that is your excuse for the cultural dysfunction of the Ghetto, then it is a piss-poor one. Orwell wrote fiction…as does Thwack.

    • Eoin January 15, 2018 at 11:37 am #

      I didn’t see any blacks in any of the National and State parks I visited, and I visited many. I didn’t see any blacks in the affluent West Coast towns where I stayed. I didn’t see any blacks in the affluent East Coast towns where I stayed. I didn’t see any blacks in any of the vacation spots I visited.

      In fact, I didn’t see any blacks in any of my weeks long vacations in the US, except the air ports. Where are all the blacks?

      @akmofo

      I suspect that your observations also explain the low rate of U.S. Passport holding among African Americans. In one of his routines, Chris Rock said that this was due to the fact that when they want to leave the country, Black people just go to Mississippi. Perhaps that answers your question ?
      Then again, maybe as a group, they lack funds, or even the cultural back round to be interested in the locations that you mentioned.
      Race is not as important as culture. There was a time, not long ago, when the U.S. had a strong culture that was not dominated by racial differences. The differences were there, just not as dominant and divisive.
      BHO, and the current crop of Bolsheviks at the DNC, have set Race/Cultural relations back 50 years, never to return in the absence of some version of a long emergency.
      God help us.

      • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

        Race is not as important as culture, but racism is. The US is the only place on the planet and throughout history where slaves were treated as chattel. Not even Europe has sunk to such lows. This can only be explained because the slaves in America were blacks.

        • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 1:55 pm #

          Ever hear of the American Civil War? It ended going on over two hundred years now and the slave owners lost, though the same bastards in the Democratic Party continued race oppression even till today. The only slaves that exist in America today are those that are Debt Slaves, and THAT burden is strictly voluntary. Oh yes, the original slaves in America were whites though they were called indentured servants and were from Spain, France, and England mostly. Though you raise an interesting point. If the original blacks were called indentured servants instead of slave, this trouble we have today might have never occurred. Who ever heard of reparations for indenture servants? See what I mean?

          • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 2:23 pm #

            Walter, I’m not so ignorant of history. And no, I don’t see what you mean. What percentage of whites were murdered on slave ships coming to the US? Compare that to blacks. And the civil war had as much to do with slavery as the current war in Afghanistan to do with 9/11. I know enough about Lincoln that you can stop with lying propaganda.

            The rest of the world did away with slavery without Yankee industrialists marching their army against them. Federalist wars are about maintaining an Empire through military terror.

          • outsider January 15, 2018 at 2:33 pm #

            @Walter,

            While I agree with most of your comment, your history is off by several years. “It ended going on over two hundred years now and the slave owners lost.” As the War of Northern Aggression ended in 1865, it won’t be two hundred years for another 57.

          • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 2:35 pm #

            If you want to paly the guilt card on nations that were big time into slavery try the Egyptians or better yet the Romans, because a case can be made that Rome morphed into the Vatican of today and they have the deepest pocket of any group on the planet. So go get ’em. And what I mean is that nobody is looking to bilk anybody into handing out cash to those whose ancestors were indentured servants are they? No, you are not ignorant of history, just very choosy in what you care to remember. That only works on you ability to see the truth, NOT on those of us who know it. No two things are equal in this plane of existence. There are those that strive to make it and those that do not. Nature takes care of what this results in. Those that fight Her lose eventually, but lose always.

          • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 2:51 pm #

            Yes outsider I was “pushing the envelope” because I do not believe in outright lying, but yes I am aware of the math. I am also always amazed when the argument is made that someone’s great grandfather’s status in life somehow condemned those living today to poverty and oppression. I do not even know anyone of any race that even knew his or her great grandfather though am told that mine on both sides were impoverished immigrants who came here a hundred years ago with noting but their clothes and a book or two. Must be that white privilege, yeah that was must have been it, .

          • Elrond Hubbard January 15, 2018 at 3:19 pm #

            Walter B: “The only slaves that exist in America today are those that are Debt Slaves, and THAT burden is strictly voluntary.”

            Whether it’s voluntary or not, it’s not true that they are the only slaves in the U.S. today; far from it. The U.S. constitution was amended in the aftermath of the civil war. These changes did not abolish the institution of slavery; they only modified it, albeit heavily.

            The 13th amendment reads, in part: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” [Emphasis added.]

            Or to put it another way: “You can only enslave people if you have convicted them of something first.” Once you get the conviction, though, boy howdy can you extract a lot of money out of people’s hides. A propos:

            Florida Prisoners Prepare to Strike, Demanding an End to Unpaid Labor and Brutal Conditions

            https://theintercept.com/2018/01/14/florida-prison-strike-unpaid-labor-brutal-conditions/

            “Florida prisoners are calling for a general strike to start this week — marking the third mass action over the course of a year in protest of inhumane conditions in the state’s detention facilities. Detainees in at least eight prisons have declared their intention to stop all work on Monday — Martin Luther King Jr. Day — to demand an end to unpaid labor and price gouging in prison commissaries, as well as the restoration of parole, among other requests.

            “Coordinated, nonviolent prison protests as well as spontaneous uprisings amid deteriorating conditions have escalated in recent years both nationwide and in Florida, which has the third largest prison system in the country. Prisoners in the state were among the most active during a nationwide strike in September 2016, which was quickly dubbed the ‘largest prison strike in U.S. history.’ At least 10 Florida prisons participated in that action, which was planned to coincide with the 45th anniversary of the Attica prison uprising but started a day early when tensions flared at Holmes Correctional Institution in the Florida Panhandle. Then, in August, in response to prison activists’ calls for another show of dissent, Department of Corrections officials placed the entire state system — 143 facilities and 97,000 people — on lockdown, an unprecedented move.

            “Incarcerated organizers of this week’s strike have chosen to remain anonymous to prevent retaliation, but they shared a statement outlining their demands with outside supporters. In an audio message from prison shared with The Intercept, one of the organizers described the action as a ‘nonviolent protest to get what we deserve from our government.'”

            No one’s less popular than a convicted criminal. That’s what makes criminalization of non-violent behavior such a useful tool for political repression.

          • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 3:35 pm #

            Agreed EH, the for-profit-prison system does in effect, still hold slaves. It is a damned shame, however that those incarcerated are mostly street criminals and are not the homes of those occupying the Senate and Congressional seats instead.

          • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 3:36 pm #

            I’m not asking for your guilt, Walter. I’m asking for much more. I’m asking for your love. Even a plant can feel love and will grow healthier if you love it and nourish it.

            Rare Bird – Sympathy
            https://youtu.be/g9oxuOC_MDY

          • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 4:19 pm #

            Well you know what akmofo, you can have all the love you need. I have always been able to and am finding it easier as I age to care and help those around me who are less fortunate. I worked in Edison NJ for twelve years and had a real close friend who was a really nice young black man who was built like a brick shit house, played ball for the Newark Bears, and got together with me and my other friends both after work and at our homes. I once asked him if there was a race war which side he would fight on. He responded, “Why the blacks of course”! “Sorry to hear that David”, I responded, “because if I were to ever see you assaulted by a group of white guys or anybody else for that matter, I would rush to your aid and either save you or perish in the attempt”! “Your crazy” he told me, “but that is why I like you”. Yup, I’m crazy. But I am loyal to those whose are willing to be part of the solution, rather than part of the problem.

          • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 4:39 pm #

            You are crazy, Walter, there’s not going to be a race war 🙂
            I wish you well and I hope more whites will learn to love blacks and visa versa. We all need to be wiser than the devil’s politics of division.

          • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 4:55 pm #

            I do not think there will be a race war either, I was just making a point with David. If there IS one than we are not crazy but STUPID and that is what I think the scum at the top are counting on. For me there are only those that have enough and those that cannot ever get enough. It is the greedy ones that will give us the most trouble.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:43 pm #

          And how are the Palestinians treated? Not even given access to enough drinking water while the Jews have pools. It aint right and it’s not going to last. Even now the Mahdi grows to manhood in the Land near the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan. And he will plant the Flag of Jihad (the Jolly Roger!) in Palestine. This prophecy cannot be changed. It has already happened in the future.

          • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 4:45 pm #

            The future is what you make it.

            We’ll take this young Israeli Arab over your apocalyptic Mahdi any day. So will most Arabs. Only they still lack the courage to say such things in public, unlike this young Israeli girl.

            https://youtu.be/xtUCE43A3X0

        • shotho January 15, 2018 at 6:20 pm #

          If you believe this, why in the world did you ever want to visit America?

          • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 8:13 pm #

            Actually I had no idea how generally racist white American were until I started visiting this blog. It’s kind of pathetic that the only people here defending blacks are the two people who don’t live in the US.

        • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 6:50 pm #

          “. The US is the only place on the planet and throughout history where slaves were treated as chattel.”

          Mofo,
          Africa, the Caribbean, the Roman Empire, Greece, the middle east…You must be using a very narrow definition of “slavery” and Chattel”.

          • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 8:33 pm #

            In the ancient world, slave owners had to exercise supreme responsibility for the welfare of their slaves. Slaves had rights. Slaves owned property. Slaves had inheritances. All slaves were freed every seven years, as was all debt forgiven. You can see this in the TaNaKh and in extra biblical sources.

            Abraham’s Egyptian slave, Hagar, inherited half of Sarah’s property. (In ancient times the woman owned the home/tent. It’s still the custom among Israel’s Bedouins). Hagar was then able to travel back to Egypt and get Ishmael an Egyptian wife.

            That world completely disappeared with the African slave trade to the new world. The malice and callousness shown towards black slaves is just unbelievable.

          • Sean Coleman January 18, 2018 at 1:09 pm #

            In the ancient world slaves were regarded as ‘things that talk’. Slavery was an economic necessity in the then marginal agricultural lands of the Mediterranean where, with the yields and the technology of the time, it was not possible for a man to support himself and to reproduce without slave labour. The slave contributed enough to feed himself and to make up the shortfall in his owner’s requirements, but not enough to reproduce (Raymond Crotty).

    • Doc Holliday January 15, 2018 at 11:59 am #

      You didn’t see any blacks in the affluent east coast nor west coast towns you stayed in. You saw very few whites neither, except affluent ones, unless your eyesight is extraordinarily poor. You must have seen about one tenth of one percent of the land mass of the US and none of the interior (except the park system and there only those vacationing and the very few support people). No one was hidden, you chose to go to those locations of affluence, perhaps you are ‘monetary racist’.

      Thwack, I am, originally from the far south side of Chicago. The blacks I went to high school with hated to go out into ‘the woods’, in those days (late 60’s) ‘the woods’ to them seemed to be part ‘Deliverance’ part ‘Rural Chain Saw Massacre”, hence the National Parks were not part of the preferred vacation destinations. Your opinion?

      • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 12:42 pm #

        True. I visited the more affluent places in the US. It’s not a coincidence I didn’t see any blacks there. My basic premise remains.

        • Doc Holliday January 15, 2018 at 1:33 pm #

          A half dozen years ago, I spent a month in rural Northern Arkansas, taking care of my Mother in Hospice, while trying to move my Step-Dad with dementia to the East Coast. The area was fairly poor, as they moved there because it was a ‘cost effective’ location after retirement. I didn’t see any blacks there. Not because they were excluded, but, likely, because they didn’t want to be there. Heck, I didn’t want to be there.
          Also, being over 135 miles from the nearest airport, I didn’t see any aircraft in the sky, nor vapor trails. Not due to the absence or ‘non-presence’ of a conspiracy, just because it was so.
          I suspect you are reading way too much in one trip to the US. Next time, try a different itinerary.

          • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 2:03 pm #

            So which affluent black vacation spots in the US do you recommend?

          • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 2:38 pm #

            Jason Williams house perhaps?

            http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/jayson-williams-house-former/

            Oh that’s right, he lost that didn’t he?

          • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:46 pm #

            So now the expectation is that Blacks have to be everywhere or there’s something wrong or evil afoot. The Ignorance!

            Japanese companies set up in just such White areas. They know how much trouble Black workers are after all.

          • shotho January 15, 2018 at 6:23 pm #

            The history of Arkansas (I’ve lived here for more than forty years) is that black slaves were used on the plantations of South Arkansas and were never welcome in the more mountainous areas that were inhabited by whites from the British Isles. That pattern has continued to this day.

          • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 6:54 pm #

            “So which affluent black vacation spots in the US do you recommend?”

            Mofo,
            I would recommend Oakland Cal.on a hot summer’s day…the estuary is beautiful, the smell exquisite….

          • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 9:19 pm #

            @elysianfield

            I was not far from there, at Lake Tahoe. After seeing the old red woods and sequoia trees at Mariposa grove, I decided I had to visit the oldest living tree on Earth — old Methuselah on his White Mountain. Funny, at both sites, it was just me and a group of Buddhists monks visiting, dressed in orangy red.

          • akmofo January 16, 2018 at 12:14 pm #

            @elysianfield

            Valley of the Cross, Jerusalem
            https://youtu.be/T-TF1rOYq-I

            Should you ever decide to visit us
            It’s not the Grand Canyon, but still serene 🙂

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:44 pm #

          Are you some kind of snob or something? Instead of attacking White Americans, you need to justify yourself.

      • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 2:53 pm #

        Hey Doc, isn’t New York City THE most affluent place on the planet? There are NO blacks there? Well I was just there yesterday and if there are no blacks to be had, there certainly were a heck of a lot of people made up to look black. Damn.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:37 pm #

      Blacks have no interest in National Parks. They have no interest in Nature, don’t find sunsets beautiful, and don’t find that kind of athleticism interesting (those few that exercise want to mix it with socializing and showing off). And on the negative side, they are very afraid of wild animal attack, especially snakes. It sound ridiculous, but only because you’ve never gotten to know any. They seem to have evolved in wide open spaces – and much of Africa is open savannah – and have a deep fear of what they can’t see. And since Africa is full of dangerous animals, their fears aren’t totally unfounded even if no longer functional per se.

      Whites who engage in extreme or dangerous sports are seen as crazy and dangerous.

      Blacks don’t appreciate Nature because they ARE Nature. They lack the requisite distance which appreciation calls for. Whites love Nature the most because they are the furthest away. The Highest!

      • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 6:56 pm #

        “especially snakes. It sound ridiculous, but only because you’ve never gotten to know any.”

        Janos,
        I’ve known many snakes, and none of them ever called me “whitey”.

      • GreenAlba January 15, 2018 at 8:30 pm #

        “Blacks have no interest in National Parks. They have no interest in Nature…”

        They must have been holograms, then, the armed African rangers I watched recently on TV risking their lives daily to protect elephants against poachers serving the Asian ivory trade.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 9:08 pm #

          They were getting paid to do that, Alba. Also they may have been a different subrace than the ones we have over here. Jungle Blacks! There are many breeds of Blacks as there are Orcs in Lord of the Rings.

          • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 8:21 am #

            No doubt you’ll be able to point me to a unit of Rangers in the US who work for nothing because they don’t need food or shelter.

            They chose to be Rangers – and to risk their lives – because they care about the wildlife they are protecting They want to do their small bit to prevent our planet sinking into anthropogenic degradation. They could have chosen to be paper-shufflers. I bet they don’t spend their spare time writing hate-filled tripe on blogs.

    • wolfbay January 16, 2018 at 7:52 pm #

      That’s what ticks me off about rich liberals. I’d be more impressed with their love of diversity if they had low income housing for minorities in all gated communities as well as places like Martha’s Vineyard and the upper east side of Manhattan.

    • JustSaying January 19, 2018 at 8:34 am #

      Apparently you didn’t visit Baltimore.

  14. Robert White January 15, 2018 at 10:54 am #

    Cultural Marxists are correct to assert that the English language is fundamentally racist in so far as English, as a language, is synonymous with elitist white male gender-centric culture. Historically, we have very few inputs from alternative cultures with respect to the English language. Since the advent of printing presses we have evidenced white male dominance in terms of writing & oratory that cements the historical record in terms of white male gender specific authority over all alternatives. In brief, the voice of white patriarchy is the English language, and that sort of language is offensive to those that do not support white patriarchal dominance, and the elimination of alternative feminist, ethnic, or cultural voices.

    P.S. You are an excellent writer, and thinker, JHK, but one such as yourself must always be on a precipice of a learning curve in order to be able to lecture to others.

    RW

    • Ol' Scratch January 15, 2018 at 11:16 am #

      Excellent comment Robert. Even the term ‘Cultural Marxist” is a loaded term meant to imply guilt more than be an honest descriptor of anyone’s views.

      http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

      • K-Dog January 15, 2018 at 11:41 am #

        I like this definition better. Your definition blows smoke.

        Cultural Marxism generally refers to one of two things:

        First — extremely rarely — “Cultural Marxism” refers to the general application of the Frankfurt School’s Marxist ideology to the social sciences.

        Second — in common usage in the wild — “Cultural Marxism” is a snarl word used to paint anyone with progressive tendencies as a secret Communist. The term alludes to a conspiracy theory in which sinister left-wingers have infiltrated media, academia, and science and are engaged in a decades-long plot to undermine Western culture. Some variants of the conspiracy alleges that basically all of modern social liberalism is, in fact, a Communist front group.

        https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism

        It is a phrase beneath our use Ol’Scratch. We have more dignity.

        • outsider January 15, 2018 at 3:32 pm #

          @K-Dog,

          I guess, then, that we Luddite cultural conservatives are not only stupid, but have no ‘dignity.’ There is a huge difference between liberalism, which honors free speech, and Cultural Marxism, which attempts to stamp out speech with which it disagrees. What is Antifa if not a tribe of university educated intolerant Cultural Marxists, who were themselves taught by Cultural Marxist professors?

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:54 pm #

          You deny that Academia has been taken over by the Left? I thought that you had that much down at least. But you seem to vary week to week far more than most people. Intelligent? Yes. Stable and integrated? Not as much as one would expect from one of your IQ.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:51 pm #

      In other words, we don’t have the right to our own countries, languages, spaces, or much of anything any more. How long before we have to quarter them in our own homes?

      Death is preferable but we’ll sell our lives at a very high cost to you and yours.

      Are Black African Languages multicultural? Feminist? Open to other cultural voices?

      The Ignorance! The Malice! They approach infinity.

  15. JohnAZ January 15, 2018 at 10:56 am #

    Some managers operate their style using devil’s advocate methodology, i.e. Doing the opposite of what is expected to get issues confronted and politicians BS exposed. In a society like the Deep State, this is an anathema. “What do you mean trying to actually do something to accomplish something?” His stirring the pot with immigration last week has done more to bring this issue to resolution past the inertia of the Deep State than anyone in the last thirty years. The logical end resolution to immigration is an effective method to control what people are crossing the border, then open the border to as many folks as we need to run the economy. The true rub is, neither side wants this. The elite is so corrupt that the Left elites want poor people of color to grow their voter base and the Right elites want cheap labor. Who loses? The feudal world awaits, with increasing AI, decreasing job participation, declining labor rates, sharecropping with increasing immigration pressure causing the minuscule elite in the country to become more and more powerful.

    Trump leads the only contretemps movement in this country that’s focus is the breaking down of this elite snowball. We, as voters, still control the political decisions of this country. Trump is definitely evidence of this fact. The Left wants the vote to be corrupted by immigrants influx, dead folks, border crossers, multiple voters, and selling a phony bill of goods to people of color. You may not like Trump’s style, but think of the alternative without his presence to slow the elitist takeover. If you want to lose your self-reliance and independence, vote for socialism. There are a whole bunch of elitists out there that would love to take away your freedoms and have the government control your future. And above all, you millennials wake up before your rights are history. Trusting the government to take care of you is like pointed a gun at your head.

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    • K-Dog January 15, 2018 at 11:48 am #

      To make things work people would have had to only have had only two kids each.

      What might have been…………….

      A fantasy, and in a society dedicated to inequality an impossible goal.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:58 pm #

        Many Whites complied – only to be betrayed by the Elite who opened the borders. And even if they had been prevented from so doing, who would have stopped them from taking away jobs with robots? That’s the sacred profit motive and no one will criticize that. And the alternative of a leisure society? The same people will begin to shriek about laziness.

        There is no substitute for Philosophy and calm inquiry. Your science, IT, and technical knowledge doesn’t make up the gap. They don’t announce how they are to be used after all.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 3:59 pm #

      Well said. Very few can see all sides of the situation and then decide on the best available option to get to where we have to go.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 15, 2018 at 4:20 pm #

      JohnAZ: “Left elites want poor people of color to grow their voter base”.

      By “Left elites”, I presume you mean the Democratic party. Today’s Democrat leadership has basically the same composition as the Republicans did under Eisenhower. Not only are they not left, they have utter contempt for everyone and everything to the left of themselves — namely, what Republicans used to be before selling their souls to the Birchers. The Democrats’ electoral strategy has been to ignore attempts to increase turnout (e.g. by offering Medicare for all, which would win big votes from previously discouraged voters who just don’t bother anymore, because no one has anything to offer them) and concentrate instead on peeling off Republican voters in the suburbs. The Democrats are completely captive to paid strategists and consultants whose interest is not in winning, but in getting more contracts to do more consulting and more strategizing. And since the 2016 debacle, Bernie Sanders’ supporters have been purged from the upper tiers of the party, so we can all expect more of the same next time around.

      What’s more, since you said that in the context of immigration, let’s not lose sight of something basic: even if they do take jobs, illegal immigrants don’t vote. In fact, they don’t attract attention to themselves any more than they have to — Obama deported millions of people, contrary to Fox News propaganda, and no one crosses a border just so they can get deported again. Neither do legal migrants vote, until they achieve citizenship — the meaning of which is, after all, the right to vote among other things. The image of hordes of outsiders being imported and plied with welfare in return for their ballots is a right-wing fever dream, having no relationship to reality.

  16. sprawlcapital January 15, 2018 at 10:57 am #

    What about the millions of white parents who move from the central cities to the suburbs so that their children can attend better schools? What those parents are actually seeking is whiter schools. I say they are racists. But looking at student behavior in the inner city schools, as I did when I was a sub in some of those schools, I also have to say they are justified in choosing the suburbs,

    • Ol' Scratch January 15, 2018 at 11:19 am #

      More than half would probably be better off getting out of the industrial school complex altogether past grade six or so. American schools are mostly indoctrination and socialization centers now, neither of which is desirable any longer.

      • AKlein January 15, 2018 at 6:42 pm #

        To better understand the objectives of the American public school system, read the works of John Taylor Gatto. I’ll summarize, but there is much more to Gatto’s message. The public school system was organized to make pliant factory workers. Alas, where are those factories now? It seems to me that the PTB redirected, about 30 years ago or so, the school system’s effort to make pliant bureaucrats. At some point down the line, the PTB will determine they have quite enough bureaucrats – too many and they will be publicly reviled as just a pack of useless eaters. Then the fun will begin! Think I’m joking? Then you just don’t grasp the “stuff” of which the PTB are made. Watch!

    • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 12:02 pm #

      “But looking at student behavior in the inner city schools, as I did when I was a sub in some of those schools, I also have to say they are justified in choosing the suburbs,”

      Oh, another “learning experience”…

      RW, take note….

      • Jigplate January 15, 2018 at 12:23 pm #

        My Inner city schools “learning experience” has lasted nearly 50 years. Both my parents were inner city high school educators , as was I. Neither they , nor I allowed their childeren anywhere near a public school in our city., and it is not about race – it is about behavior

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 4:06 pm #

          As if race is one thing and behavior a completely different thing. And as if Blacks aren’t obviously far more volatile, loud, emotional, and dangerous than any other race.

          What does this man have on his plate? You can’t make this stuff up. God delivers them into my hands.

        • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 7:00 pm #

          “it is not about race – it is about behavior”

          Jigplate,

          You are correct…and behavior is a function of culture.

        • outsider January 15, 2018 at 8:04 pm #

          Jigplate,
          I admire your ability to hold fast and thrive while spending a career in the Belly of the Educational Beast. You must be a Man of Iron.

    • Kevvia Knack January 15, 2018 at 12:35 pm #

      Sprawlcapital—-Any white parent hoping to find a “better/whiter” school for their child in suburban Los Angeles would be hard-pressed, indeed, because suburban Los Angeles (at least the San Gabriel Valley and Inland Empire) are now 85% Asian or 85% Latino. I imagine most of the schools are “better” than they were one generation ago (Asians place a high premium on education and many of them are imbued with ambitious migrant temperaments), but “whiter”? Don’t think so. It seems to me people want to be around their own kind, whatever their ancestry is. It’s Psychology 101, the “Ingroup Bias”, at work. I sense resentment, arrogance and hostility coming from all groups (Latinos/Asians/Whites). Whites are not the only racists. Diversity is a noble idea, but I’m not sure it will pan out in reality. .

      • sprawlcapital January 15, 2018 at 3:03 pm #

        Kevvia–

        Despite the past 45 years during which thousands of refugees moved here from places like Vietnam and Cambodia, and despite an influx Hispanics, Iowa remains overwhelmingly white. Therefore, the suburbs to which white families flee are also mostly white.

        Not like Los Angeles and its suburbs..

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

          Yet Blacks have savaged county fairs, even in Iowa if memory serves. Are they from the slums of Davenport? Or were they flown in from Chicago or Detroit?

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 4:01 pm #

      You still say they are “racists” – even after your experience? Maybe they’re right to be.

  17. Newton Finn January 15, 2018 at 11:04 am #

    “There is no movement at all to get rid of public assistance per se.” Yes, there is. It’s called Modern Monetary Theory, which calls for full-employment at a decent minimum wage. And the beauty of this concept, infinitely preferable to giving people something for nothing, is that we CAN afford to do it. Indeed, I would argue that we can’t afford not to.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/the-rock-star-appeal-of-modern-monetary-theory/

    • All entitlements, benefits, and welfare should be scrapped and replaced with guaranteed minimum income.

      But first…

      The expulsion of all illegal aliens and cessation of immigration policies

      • outsider January 15, 2018 at 3:53 pm #

        In theory, I second the idea of a guaranteed minimum income, but the devil is always in the details. It can’t be so high as to discourage low wage work. If a minimum wage McDonalds worker finds out that she’s only $1/hour better off than her guaranteed income friend sitting on the couch watching soaps, why should she work? And that’s before we factor in the costs of childcare, transportation, clothing, and taxes.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 4:13 pm #

          Don’t sweat it. Your instincts are right. Remember, most of those jobs will be history in the near future due to automation. I don’t say this is the best option or path for America, the West, or even Mankind – no one ever even thought about that!

          Guaranteed income or free money was voted down in Switzerland recently. At least someone is thinking. But it will come, must come because of the Path we DID choose and have already taken.

          What did we choose? The Profit Motive as opposed to Human wellbeing. So now we need to make the most of it – maximize human wellbeing within this context. Don’t worry about laziness – having a career will be more of a status symbol than ever before. And lots of people will be eager for any kind of work to supplement their guaranteed income.

        • America, as we know it, produces two things.

          One, jobs Americans don’t want to do.

          Two, a requirement to work to live.

          Thus, we have an economic situation summarized here: people forced to work to survive and in doing so support growing an economic environment of jobs no one wants to do.

          It is an economy predicated on coersion. Slavery 2.0.

          The beneficiaries have been the corporations and shareholders situated to take advantage of this situation.

          Now, to your concern, which is vanquished rather quickly under minimal analysis (you can DYOR- pick an award winning economist from either side of the political divide.)

          If someone is granted the minimum amount of income to live what makes you think people would be satisfied with that? Wherever I look, people want iPhones and fancy shoes and nice clothes and cars- which I assume they will be willing to work for.

          Thus we remove the coersion aspect from the economy. I would like to emphasize that coersion is basically evil. We can talk about compulsory education. be We can talk about a second class citizenry of illegal aliens working so that you can enjoy fresh food out of season. We can talk about why the coal miners of West Virginia enrich their employers at the expense of the quality of air, land, and water. We can talk about why my hometown is filled with unemployed and sick homeless people living on the sidewalks and harassed by police. We can talk about the implications for real people and the quality of American Life, generally.

          We can talk about this stuff but let’s focus on why replacing the entire array of current entitlements with cash payments and save tons of money. The current safety net is a joke. Food stamps are a joke. Between big Ag processors and health insurance companies we are getting totally screwed. For the youth, forced to take on sent to survive, to get an overpriced education to qualify forward a rapidly shrinking job market (of jobs Americans don’t want to do) with an open door policy for illegal immigrants- whose side are you on really?

          You ever think about what it means to be born an American, have a bunch of lies about “freedom” blown up your butt while being forced into a system of indoctrination (school) to sort and grade children like they were chattel, to qualify for status in a coersive economy of competitive exploitation? JHK talks about a “Clusterfuck Nation” and it wasn’t built in a day. These “bricks in the wall”- the current set of (totally and transparently bankrupt entitlements), a governing class of corporate mouthpieces, a Civic environment sliding into chaos, severe levels of mental illness and anxiety, a total lack of moral clarity in public and private life, mass depression, ruination of the environment- these are all effects of compounding the corrosive immorality that forced work represents.

          Now back to the simple argument against the simple minded prejudice against overdue reform: people will always desire MORE THAN THE MINIMUM NECESSARY TO MEET THEIR NEEDS because people have “wants”.

          I don’t care if you are left, right or centered politically. You can read the logic of this argument without reference to award winning economists or philosophers from any of these political sides who are on record supporting it. You don’t need to do the simple math to see the huge savings and immense healing the replacement of the current Rube Goldberg constellation of entitlement programs with simple cash payments would acheive.

          It won’t happen any time soon. Americans are like beaten dogs with brain damage. Creativity, compassion, reason, imagination, ideas- luxuries approaching impossibility for the millions of slave laborers that are going to drink themselves to a stopping in front of the TV tonight.

      • Elrond Hubbard January 15, 2018 at 4:30 pm #

        A jobs guarantee is a better policy than a guaranteed minimum income. Here’s why:

        – All else being equal, minimum basic income ends up being a subsidy to employers; i.e., it shifts money from people who have less to those who have more (who ought to be getting it by providing better goods and services instead). Wal-mart is the poster child for this. They could not get away with pitifully underpaying their employees they way they do if those employees didn’t have unemployment insurance, food stamps and other programs to shore up what’s missing.

        – Minimum guaranteed income programs have been tried before. The basic issue that results is they create a de-skilled class of people who have nothing to offer potential employers — i.e., they become dependent on the basic income and/or lack any route to get off it, even if they want to.

        A jobs guarantee can be constructed to address both points above; particularly the second, since someone with a job by definition has some usable skill to do that job. People who are willing to work should be able to do so, and not get fingers wagged at them and lectures about bootstraps. A hand up, not a handout — it’s a real need, and it could happen.

        • I encourage you to find out more comprehensively what minimum basic income would actually do. It would replace with cash payments, the unemployment “insurance”, health care (employer mandated or otherwise), rents, food stamps, disability, etc.

          Since people wouldn’t have to work at Walmart (unless there was some reason they wanted more than the minimum amount to live on) Walmart would pay better.

          Your claim that minimum income programs have been tried before needs citation. I’m not aware of any outside a few isolated (and incomplete) studies done in Canada in the 70s and 80s. (which had good preliminary results.

          There really are so many aspects to this which go beyond just jobs that have totally sold me on it. The math works. The ethics work. People will certainly willingly work for things like iPods and Cars and new clothes, etc. There really isnt a downside. Check it out (before another great idea spoils on the vine).

  18. BC_EE January 15, 2018 at 11:20 am #

    Jim, I feel your PC/White Guilt pain. Or the unfortunate recipient of “virtue signaling”. I know this particular event at Boston College had a profound negative effect on you because I see it often expressed in your writing either implicitly or explicitly, as today.

    Perhaps these enlighted members of academia should spend some time in a predominately black society. Jamaica perhaps? (Disclaimer: my wife is Jamaican-American working on her third, Canadian). In Jamaica one is looked down upon if they resort to pidgin (slang). I can’t understand a word of it.

    If you think what you hear on Jamaican accented dialogue – such as In Living Color “Ya Man” sketches – is the real deal, sorry that is a middle class, every day around the house dialect. Then there is language you speak “on the street”. It would put most ‘Merikans to shame.

    Furthermore, when you travel to these countries and speak with diction, lexicon, and content one is greatly respected. You are derided as an elitist. I always recall one of the more serious denigrations in South America, “Sin Educacion”. Without education.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 4:19 pm #

      Greatly respected or derided as an elitist? Which? You need to work on clarity.

      • BC_EE January 15, 2018 at 6:05 pm #

        Sorry, not derided.

  19. marcus1 January 15, 2018 at 11:24 am #

    How do you restore the dignity and social structure of a people from 400 years of slavery? I don’t know, but significant reparations might be part of a just settlement, or another way of saying it may be “whatever it takes.”

    • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 12:08 pm #

      “How do you restore the dignity and social structure of a people from 400 years of slavery? I don’t know, but significant reparations might be part of a just settlement, or another way of saying it may be “whatever it takes”

      Marcus,
      Ask the Jews, they seem to have survived and prospered after their many travails…those of the past and ongoing.
      Significant reparations? Whatever it takes? Trillions already spent in this country on transfer payments of all kinds.

      What are YOU prepared to offer…personally?

    • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 12:29 pm #

      “Whatever it takes”, seriously? If that means what it used to mean then it means that you need to get up off your dead ass and find a way to provide the society that you a part of a function and a value that will get you paid or otherwise compensated for what service you provide for them. Either that or Jeremiah Johnston it, though there are few if any wildernesses here anymore. Why does “whatever it takes” always have to mean charity? Perhaps you mean extortion or “give us the money or we will take it”?

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 4:23 pm #

      Rodney King got around three million for his trouble. It was gone within two years or so. Most Blacks would be back with one hand out to beg and the other clenched in a first in any amazing short time.

      All the more so because doing something like that would mean printing a lot of money which would then inflate prices.

      • outsider January 15, 2018 at 4:32 pm #

        And all that money helped kill Rodney at age 47 due to drug use and alcohol intoxication. He must have thrown some wild parties.

      • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 5:08 pm #

        And it is so with so many who are handed monies that they did not earn, for if they earned it by their own works, they would appreciate it and utilize it carefully. But the greedy at the top certainly do love to give out such handouts from time to time because they know this and can get it back a lot more quickly than they can from those who slowly earn it.

        • outsider January 15, 2018 at 5:54 pm #

          Walter,
          Did you see how bad Rodney was beaten up by the police. How many times was he tazed? They nearly killed him, yet he asked “Can’t we all get along?” I’d say that Rodney earned the money.

          • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 7:16 pm #

            I did not say that it was not right that Rodney King was compensated financially for the abuse he took at the hands of the police, but that is not the kind of earning I was talking about. I think you are wise enough to understand what I meant. In any case the fool and his money were soon parted which was one of my points.

          • outsider January 15, 2018 at 8:08 pm #

            I knew what you meant, Walter. Just foolin’ around.

          • elysianfield January 16, 2018 at 6:27 pm #

            Outsider,
            Earned it? I, at 71 years of age would take that beating for 3 Million dollars..who amongst the readership would not?

          • Walter B January 16, 2018 at 8:01 pm #

            Not me ef, and I daresay that at your age you know as well as I do at 63 that every injury, every, beating we took haunts us more as every year passes. Our health is what make old age bearable or not and the kind of beating Rodney took is not worth the risk of long time damage. Besides, I would have no use for such ridiculous sums of cash. It is vastly overrated and more trouble than it is value.

          • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 11:23 am #

            Walter,
            Understood, but it would be a nice leg-up for our unworthy heirs and assigns…no? And, consider, that many people suffer far more for far less….

          • Walter B January 17, 2018 at 11:41 am #

            Ah yes ef, but suffering without compensation is what elevates the soul and if we deal with our suffering correctly we shall surely be rewarded in the next plane of existence. For those who believe, of course.

    • Everybody needs reparations. Everybody.

  20. trolleybill January 15, 2018 at 11:25 am #

    No one talks about the Sub Saharan average IQ which is around 80. East Asians have an average 105 and Europeans a 100 average. When blacks in the past after the 2nd great migration settled into once great northern cities of economic prowess the higher IQ of European heritage moved out. As Europeans moving so did a lot of their small business the biggest employer in America. The higher IQ blacks gained education and job skills and moved out to safer and higher value real estate. The void left behind was one of lower IQ average. We see this in the Caribbean as higher IQ residents move away. It’s said that Jamaica now has an average IQ of 70. Call it a brain drain. Low IQ’s lead to a culture of crime and depravity anyway you slice it. Were not racist which is now passe to others but democrats, we are all tribal. Some tribes of higher IQ and good culture will just make a better life.

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  21. JohnAZ January 15, 2018 at 11:30 am #

    Two major changes during the last fifty years. The European culture that was so predominant in the Jim Crow days has been altered considerably by the influx of new ethos from Black ascendency and immigration. Our country has had a bumpy road at times trying to accommodate very diverse ethos, but has been for the most part, successful. Compare America’s ability to absorb different people to most of the rest of the world. Sorry all you extremists, we are doing pretty well.

    Another change is the value added for a job. Higher paid manufacturing jobs have been replaced by lower paying service sector jobs for fifty years. The role of the service sector job has changed from entry level and supplementary income to primary source of family income. This is a social bomb that is just starting to ignite. AI will aggravate this to the ignition point. The Elite will still have all their expensive goodies but everyone will be poor as church mice. All the Leftists are pushing minimum wages as the solution but if the Elitists just automate all the service jobs, this labor sector will be crucified. Look at California, right now. The Elite are stupid also, when this trend runs its course who it going to buy all the goods? Formula for disaster! Here comes one facet of the Long Emergency.

    • akmofo January 15, 2018 at 11:37 am #

      Tax them per robot or computer employed, instead of giving them subsidies per robot or computer employed. It’s not very complicated.

    • outsider January 15, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

      It’s interesting that, when Walmart decreed that $11/hour would be its minimum starting wage, it also closed 63 Sam’s Clubs at the same time. I don’t know if they were connected, but it sure is passing strange. Higher wages = fewer jobs. Econ 101.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 4:26 pm #

        The Ancient Greeks dreamed of a Society without slavery and poverty. We could have it but lack the vision to See it for what it could be. And indeed, the presence of more primitive cultures in our midst makes any such dream into a nightmare.

        Thus we’ll take the opportunity and simply use it to finish off the middle class and put White Americans out into the street.

      • BackRowHeckler January 15, 2018 at 9:10 pm #

        That was a shocker, Sams Clubs closing their stores.

    • Educate yourself: In Our Hands : A Plan To Replace The Welfare State [Charles Murray]

      Are we mice, or men?

      Also “the European culture that was so predominant in the Jim Crow days has been altered considerably by the influx of new ethos from Black ascendency and immigration. ”

      “Black ascendancy” frankly never happened. How could they, with organized and largely successful efforts to keep labor from organizing by political repression and import of immigrant labor door the benefit of the corporate state which rules today- we are a financial economy now- we no longer think about labor issues, industrial issues, agricultural issues. Social issues presented from a largely “white European” framework fall apart considering its obvious state of disaster evidenced in the “crapscape” of TLE.

      What was worth saving? I disbelieve in a “golden era” of American cultural history and it is pointless to debate what expert scholars have probably more comprehensively outlined. America is manifestly and comprehensively different today. Our problems have proximate causes making historical analysis totally unnecessary. That world and its possibilities have been utterly replaced by new imperatives, and in my opinion, vastly superior moral and economic possibilities. Forward looking policies address our common problems and address our common interests- not reification of obsolete cultural artifacts.

      We are totally under control by corporate and political interests and a status quo. Humans can still exercise their political agency though. I’m hopeful. But it has to be intelligent. Start reading up on minimum income.

  22. Cavepainter January 15, 2018 at 11:38 am #

    Discretionary judgment is existentially unavoidable, an essential part of being as member of our specie (the only one that digests sensory input into concepts that collectively constitute one’s notion of ‘reality’ — another concept as substantial or weak as who authors it). Only Western Culture has instituted reasoned analysis of empirical evidence as foundation for social organization. Universities, once known as places of ‘higher education’ for teaching the history of humanity’s greatest intellectual achievements in pursuit of such practice have since been turned into Maoist like re-education camps.

  23. thwack January 15, 2018 at 11:54 am #

    I’ll throw this MONKEY wrench in here; for all the white people trying to keep the discussion of racism focused on black people and our numerous pathologies:

    https://longingfordeath.wordpress.com

    *You’re welcome*

    • GreenAlba January 15, 2018 at 1:47 pm #

      thwack

      My God, that’s one sick, dysfunctional world. I hope the guy’s writing helps him.

      • thwack January 15, 2018 at 6:38 pm #

        My God, that’s one sick, dysfunctional world. I hope the guy’s writing helps him.

        ***************

        too late, the hapacolypse may be upon us?

        Don’t forget, the Las Vegas shooter had an Asian girlfriend.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 5:20 pm #

      Indeed he is in hell. The creation of half breed children is a terrible crime. But it’s easier when the race is lower since they have nothing to lose. This poor guy is neither White nor Asian. A half Black will usually fit right into the American Ghetto (and most of America is a ghetto now) since there are no standards, no pride, and thus no sins. Needless to say such a child won’t fit in with Whites who have pride or even with Blacks who know who they are.

      • outsider January 15, 2018 at 6:13 pm #

        Janos,

        Tiger Woods is half black and half Asian (Thai & Chinese) and I think he’s done okay. That may actually be his secret. The East Asians have the patience and temperament for golf, while blacks have the athleticism. Tiger fits in wherever he wants, even with his sex addiction.

        BTW, many biracial’s are beautiful looking people. They have many advantages over pure blacks and are thus resented by them.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 6:25 pm #

          Each half will war against the other. And neither side will want the kids.

          I admit that if hapas, being born of two high races, might, if isolated, evolve into a fixed type and a high one at that. Some hapas apparently seek each other out. A very few may even have this vision.

          I’ve seen this guy before on youtube. He feels that Asian fathers and White mothers work out far better for some reason, at least for boys. He things that the whole White Man/Asian woman is a sexual fetish. And thus the Asian mothers are disappointed if the boy doesn’t look White, since that is her ideal. So I guess he is saying that White mothers don’t fetishize Asian men and won’t be disappointed if a boy looks like them. That would be the logic anyway, if logic it is.

          • outsider January 15, 2018 at 8:17 pm #

            Given the ugly, man-hating feminism of American women, is it any wonder that American men are turning to Asian women? Who was that who sang, 40-50 years ago, “American Woman Please Stay Away, American Woman Listen to What I Say.” (or something like that).

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 10:54 am #

            “Each half will war against the other. And neither side will want the kids.”

            So unlike you to generalise, Janos. Thwack’s story aside, I have a longstanding Creole friend, originally from Mauritius. She married a Northern Irish man. They were hoping for cute, coffee-coloured children and were almost disappointed that their children were both entirely white. They love(d) them dearly as they are and would have loved them exactly the same any other colour.

            She’s Catholic and he (before he died) was Protestant, so it was a new experience for her, meeting his family in N. Ireland, to find that she was looked at suspiciously, initially, for being Catholic rather than for being ‘black’ . There’s no end to the nonsense people will find to create divisions between themselves.

  24. tucsonspur January 15, 2018 at 11:59 am #

    Like the poor souls in Casablanca we wait. And wait. And wait. And wait. It’s long overdue, but the powers that be just refuse to do the right thing.

    By this time (October, 2009), the pompous, pusillanimous potentate had already gotten his after MAKA (making America kneel again).
    Is MAGA any less deserving?

    So, where the hell is Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize?

  25. Walter B January 15, 2018 at 12:01 pm #

    Eliminate public assistance programs, really? Well do not hold your breath waiting for that one to happen. Yes there are millions of “limited Talent/motivation” human beings that will absolutely NEVER be able to fend for themselves and either perish or go violent should the free money stop flowing, but there is a huge, highly paid bureaucracy that lives the high life off of administering it. That power base and its army of “may turn violent if thwarted” will assure that nothing ever changes.

    One thing that I never see talked about much is that when an entity or an organization is instituted for a purpose, for example one for the “advancement of colored people”, such entities sometimes even achieve their goals. However even if they do of if they are even only very successful in advancing these goals, they never, ever simply just go away. They go looking for work. We have this in the general government in so many cases, where agencies that are no longer needed get desperate for relevance and go mission creeping into any other area they can make work. Heck, how can “advancement of colored people” even be allowed to exist in the modern PC society? A group set up to “advance white people” would surely be burned down immediately after opening up.

    In the late 1950’s and early 1960’s even in urban Newark, New Jersey blacks and whites lived and cohabitated in peace and harmony. We all even competed to be the ones sitting in the back of the Public Service Bus because it was the best place to keep an eye on everything. Then in 1967 after a group of militant blacks brutally murdered a street cop in Plainfield…

    https://www.thenation.com/article/riot-and-reunion-forty-years-later/

    …riots ensued and spread throughout the nation, MLK was murdered by the same bastards that killed JFK the next year, and Al Sharpton rose from the ashes. I am not exactly sure why this all had to happen but none of it made or makes any sense even today. The South may have never grown up from the Civil War, but I challenge anybody to even find any significant abuses of race after 1800 in the North. Unless you include the Chinese, Irish or Polish issues, but they do not count do they?

    In the end, it will never end because when violence erupts, wealth changes hands the easy way. There is NO profit in peace. Not here, not in the future, not in a country divided by stupidity and greed. Ain’t gonna happen.

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    • tucsonspur January 15, 2018 at 3:45 pm #

      MLK was killed in 1968. JFK in 1963. MLK was killed 4-5 years AFTER JFK.

      • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 5:10 pm #

        I said that he was murdered one year after the Plainfield riots which took place in 1967, but I see how that could have been misconstrued, sorry for that.

        • tucsonspur January 15, 2018 at 8:59 pm #

          I should have mentioned you made some good points.

  26. Jigplate January 15, 2018 at 12:07 pm #

    I submit that we need a new word. I am not a racist, I am a culturist. Racism is the idea that the color of one’s skin is the sole criteria for one’s acceptance of another. I believe that there are very few real racists in America, but there are a lot of culturists. “Culturism” specifically looks beyond “race” and judges ( Yes, judges) based on an individuals learned ,and displayed behaviors. If you are a culturist, you can feel equal amounts of disgust with the behaviors of rural white meth addicts, as with inner city black gang bangers. Trump’s “shithole” comments have nothing to do with race , and everything to do with culture. The black hole of third world cultures, and their wholesale transport to the United States is likely what upsets him, and many other Americans- regardless of their race.

    • Kevvia Knack January 15, 2018 at 1:27 pm #

      I don’t refer to racism as “racism” anymore. I use the psychology terms “In-Group Bias” (the tendency for people give preferential treatment to others they perceive to be members of their own groups) and “Out-Group Homogeneity Bias” (the tendency of people to see members of their own group as being relatively more varied than members of other groups). I realize these terms are a mouthful, buy they get to the heart of the phenomenon. I’ve experienced these biases from every ethnic group, not just Caucasians. I don’t use the term “third world” anymore, either. There’s only one world as far as I know, not three. Planet Earth.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 5:28 pm #

        That’s the whole purpose of borders – to keep out the aliens. Multi-ethnic or cultural states are simply a denial of human nature. You shouldn’t have to face prejudice like this because you shouldn’t have to deal with foreigners in your own nation.

        As for immigration and assimilation: Whites can assimilate to each other countries, Blacks cannot. Even if individuals can, they won’t. Don’t want to and/or have loyalty to the main group which simply cannot.

        A few individuals can but they are outliers. And policy should not be made on the basis of outliers or Hail Mary passes.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 5:24 pm #

      So it’s just coincidence that Blacks are always on the bottom wherever they go – and their own lands are the most primitive and impoverished?

      I think not.

      • thwack January 15, 2018 at 7:46 pm #

        Thats a lie.

        We are NOT on the bottom.

        We are tops on

        robbery

        rape

        and car jacking; just to name a few.

        Don’t make me come out the bag on this one?

  27. elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 12:13 pm #

    Trump’s “shithole” comments have nothing to do with race , and everything to do with culture.

    Jigplate,
    Culture…you are correct. White flight has little to do with race, everything to do with culture.

  28. SvrzoH January 15, 2018 at 12:27 pm #

    There was a stand up comedian, can’t remember his name, with the line:
    “We (whites) are having it so good here in America. Aren’t we ?”
    Chuckle from an audience followed promtly. They knew exactly what he was talking about.

  29. JohnAZ January 15, 2018 at 12:33 pm #

    American culture is a broad sweep containing many ethical groups. The problem with the Racists is that they cannot share their ethnicity with others, it has to be the White way, which by the way does not really exist, or the Latin way, or the Black way. Honestly, when I try to picture the American culture without the “minority” inputs, this would be a very uninspiring place to live. The European culture may work well for WallStreet, but it sucks in music, athletics, hard labor and many other fields. A black man told a pundit that he will not pledge to the flag, just to the people. Wrong! The flag, the pledge, the anthem are representive of this entire group of people, We are America. Teddy Roosevelt summed it up well. We are one people, one culture, the American culture, with no allegiance to anywhere else, and speaking one language, English. Folks who cannot sign up to this should find an alternative and follow their pathway.

    Any group such as La Raza, CAIR, BLM that’s goal is the takeover of the American culture should be dealt with criminally.

    • outsider January 15, 2018 at 5:04 pm #

      John said: ” The flag, the pledge, the anthem are representative of this entire group of people. We are America….We are one people, one culture, the American culture, with no allegiance to anywhere else, and speaking one language, English. Folks who cannot sign up to this should find an alternative and follow their pathway.”

      What a bunch of horse manure. Such talk reminds me of growing up in the Vietnam War ravaged ’60’s – “America, Love it or Leave it.” Right? The USA has NEVER been “one people, one culture.” It’s always been a rootless nation of immigrants, and the 1965 Immigration Act killed whatever unique culture we had. There is no one American people, there is no one American culture – and there never will be. That ship sailed a long time ago.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 5:32 pm #

      Hard labor? Really? Music? We have our own. Other areas: Science, Literature, Technology, Exploration, Adventure, Military – we excel.

      Our Tradition is second to none. And it deserve to live – and it only can thru us. No one else can be us. They have to be themselves.

      We’re not born blank slates, you know. Whites have software (culture) built in as do every other race.

  30. m111ark January 15, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

    The stench waffling from this blog is beginning to gag. You’re long past your sell-by date jim… do us all a favor… retire to your little burg, ride your bike and tend your garden, and leave the rest of us alone, we’ve finally got a fighter in WH and you leftist swine are going down.

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  31. K-Dog January 15, 2018 at 12:52 pm #

    It had been a good day. The new oak floors had been sanded cleaned and now finished in the south ridge house. Monday the boss would have him working up by north gate but that would not be a rush job like south ridge job had been. Getting the floors done there had kept him working 14 hours straight but now the cabinet people would not mess up the finish when they got to south ridge on Monday. It will have had time to cure. The flooring had been delivered late and now days later Joe was way late getting home but the bossman would be happy. Joe had put the schedule back on track.

    A mile from home, bed and a well earned rest there were some things to get and at 2 AM the drugstore on Rainier was the only place open. Joe swung his work scarred but well cared for white Chevy pickup into the parking lot and walked to the door. A boy sat on the cement sidewalk by the door. High school or a year or two later, late teens. It was a warm night in summer.

    As Joe approached the boy asked. Spare some change?

    Joe stopped, looked at the boy first and then looked around the almost empty parking lot. There were only two other cars besides Joe’s white pickup. Joe did not notice the dog listening and watching quietly in the black sedan. Joe figured he and the boy were alone. Joe turned to the boy and said.

    What are you doing? Does your mother know you are out here?

    These were not really questions so the boy looked away and muttered. Trying to get some smokes man. Jus joking with chew man, trying to smile, looking at Joe.

    But the claim was said in an uneasy broken voice. The boy had not expected someone like Joe so late at night. Some spare change or quiet disgust was the usual thing and all he wanted were some smokes. A confident challenge was something he was not expecting.

    Joe looked him straight in the eyes.

    Every time you do something like this you make sense of every bad thing they can ever say about us. Does not seem to me there is anything wrong with you boy, is there.

    No man, the boy shuffled with unease.

    Then don’t give them a reason. You make us all look bad. You need to get yourself a job. Get home, get up in the morning so come Monday you can be up at 9AM easy. You have not been up in the morning for a while, have you?

    The boy looked down.

    Come Monday call that number on my truck. Ask for Jack. Then you can get your own damn smokes.

    With that Joe walked past the boy into the store.

    For a few minutes the boy paced a circle by the sliding glass front door of the drugstore. Then in the dim yellow midnight light of the parking lot the boy walked a few short steps to Joe’s truck and bent to peer at the small hand lettered phone number under the name of the construction company on the truck door. The boy quietly said the number to himself. Twice. Then he went home.

    Never knowing the dog saw and heard all.

  32. thwack January 15, 2018 at 1:34 pm #

    Islam Uber Alles

    This Arab woman comes to her father crying. “My husband struck me. What will you do about this grave insult to your daughter?”

    The Arab father says “and on what cheek did he strike you?” “The left”, she says.

    So he hits her in the right cheek. The Arab father says

    “go back and tell your husband ‘he may have hit my daughter, but I have hit his wife’!”

    • windward January 16, 2018 at 8:18 am #

      Good one.

      That girl needs a .32-20, built on a .45 frame.

  33. patrickd January 15, 2018 at 2:09 pm #

    Every day of the year, the NYT headline needs to read:

    “Uncle Sam is still a terrorist, murdering innocent families who are not white, and stealing everything in sight.”

    Anything else is a diversion.

  34. janet January 15, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

    Racism-O-Rama continues because whites continue to promote stereotypes about Blacks. For example, among Blacks forty-two percent own their own homes, a figure that rises to 75 percent if we look just at Black married couples. Black two-parent families earn only 13 percent less than those who are white. Almost a third of the Black population lives in suburbia.

    Because these are facts the media seldom report, the Black underclass continues to define Black America in the view of much of the public. Many assume Blacks live in ghettos, often in high-rise public housing projects. Crime and the welfare check are seen as their main source of income. Those are racist assumptions that are not true. White America doesn’t seem to want to acknowledge or celebrate Black achievement in the last 50 years.

    • Walter B January 15, 2018 at 3:22 pm #

      Seems to me like lost of the good folk who come here tend to discuss issues and ideas and are not here to “celebrate” anything. How would you know anything about what any “white” people are acknowledging when all you do is tell us what we are and complain about how we act? If anyone here is up for the “Queen of Racist Bitches” spot, you will be the first to get MY vote.

    • aibohphobia January 16, 2018 at 2:38 am #

      It has happened several times at my workplace that Blacks from Africa ere working with US Blacks. In each case they didn’t get along. The Africans looked down their noses on the US Blacks and annoyed them constantly by calling BS on their pretensions of being ‘African Americans.’ “You guys are not Africans in any way” was one comment.

      Fact is, Blacks who were born in the US are simply Americans. I have no data, but I would bet that any Black American whose family has been here more than a couple of generations has a significant portion of his/her DNA from Europe, just as DNA from Africa is widespread in the purported ‘White’ population. A couple of hundred years after the Long Emergency has landed all of our descendants into a new Dark Ages, the residents of the Americas will probably have their DNA even better mixed than it is now. It is just silly to talk about Obama as ‘half white” or “half black.” The reality is likely much more complex.

      Are there any Black readers who have had their DNA tested by Ancestry or 23andMe? I’d be interested to know what percent of European DNA they have..

      We are in an unstoppable process of mixing genes here, as everywhere.

      Also, where exactly does ‘Race’ fit into biological classification?
      Biology is classically divided into ‘Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, and Species.’ When we speak of different Races, do we mean that the Irish and the Patagonians are different in Genus? Different Species? ‘Splain it to me Lucy…’

      • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 5:40 pm #

        Different breeds of dogs vary tremendous. As do dogs from wolves, though technically the same species. We vary from Blacks in the same way, even though the same species (since we can produce viable offspring), we are obviously different sub-species.

  35. Racism is preference. A species of opinion. It’s emotional in basis, not factual.

    Logical arguments are limited in effectiveness. Arguments against preferences are arguments against the inviolable nature of free thoughts. Telling someone ‘race’ isn’t real is like telling them their feelings aren’t real.

    Racism will not be solved by public debate. It will always exist. It’s the tar baby of American culture.

    Unfortunately its current incarnation is media driven to distract us from the ongoing disasters and travesties of TLE in this FUBAR society. Something to strengthen our irrational, tribal natures. Something to blame for a half century of failures of public policy. Some easy moral high ground grab. No solutions just polemics.

    Sad.

    The only silver lining is that it frequently connects to discussions of welfare and ‘entitlement’ which is the doorway to expanding awareness of guaranteed minimum income policies which would literally end Wage slavery and special interest corruption from the most urgent public policy problems facing America.

    I’m not too interested in people’s opinions and preferences and feelings when the public interest is better served by ending the tyranny of coersion that characterizes modern Life and has turned capitalism into a tool to dominate people rather than serve their interests.

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    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 5:37 pm #

      Golden Retrievers get along very well with each other since they are similar. That’s why they’re called the same thing: Golden Retrievers. They won’t get along as well with dogs called something else. Why not? Because those dogs have a different nature and interests.

      Trying to pretend all dogs or people are the same is simply delusion and cruelty.

      • thwack January 15, 2018 at 6:34 pm #

        They won’t get along as well with dogs called something else.

        ************

        White people measure a dogs intelligence by its will and ability to do what white people tell them to do.

        When the collapse occurs, Golden Retrievers will be eaten by wolves and other real dogs who give zero fucks what the white man says.

        • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 7:11 pm #

          “When the collapse occurs, Golden Retrievers will be eaten by wolves and other real dogs who give zero fucks what the white man says.”

          Thwack,
          From your lips to God’s ear….

    • Pucker January 15, 2018 at 6:03 pm #

      “Maybe they’ll give everybody a guaranteed minimum income so that we can sit around painting and reciting poetry all day?”

      Assidui (men of property) and proletarii (those without property). The role of the Proletarii was the production of offspring(“Proles”). It was basically the same arrangement on antebellum Slave plantations in the Deep South.

      They’re not going to create a Utopia. Ain’t gonna happen.

      • Take all the government apparatus devoted to the various forms of welfare…

        Health care, disability, workers comp, housing, financial aid, food stamps, unemployment.

        You replace literally all of that shit with a simple cash payment that pays for the minimum. Rent, obligate necessities. Health insurance. A bus pass. A little extra.

        Congrats, you’ve just eliminated forced work from the society. No longer will people like my good friend, a valedictorian, work a menial job just to survive while his intellect and talents go to waste.

        Why do better outcomes and success accrue to the wealthy? Their children have a guaranteed minimum income of a sort.

        Anyone who wants to can examine the financial ramifications of replacing these ineffective and bloated entitlement programs with a dignified and relatively inexpensive program that unlocks human potential instead of squashing it.

  36. Pucker January 15, 2018 at 6:00 pm #

    Several weeks ago, I made a public request on CFN for a recommendation to a well-researched, non-biased book on the state of black America today and the American black underclass. It seems that no such book exists? Tragic….

    • thwack January 15, 2018 at 6:25 pm #

      I suggest this one:

      https://www.amazon.com/United-Independent-Compensatory-System-Concept-Textbook/dp/069265321X

      Why?

      Because:

      1. Because its not a “pep rally” where black people study their belly button and get drunk on melanin.

      2. It provides practical suggestion to COMPENSATE for racism that don’t require money and/or “permission/support from white people.

      3. I think the author is still alive?

      and has always accepted questions and comments over the phone.

  37. elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 6:06 pm #

    Well, ladies and Germs;

    The BBC, this PM posted on their website that it has been found that the Bubonic Plague, the Scourge of Humanity, was not caused by fleas carried by rats…but rather human body lice. I always knew that the rats were getting a bum rap….

    I’ve had many rats as pets over the years…much cleaner than humans….

    • jmar98 January 15, 2018 at 8:13 pm #

      Lice transmit Typhus. Bubonic plague is transmitted by fleas. They use the rats as a host. When they killed off the rats the fleas had to find a new host and that was humans. They should have let the damn rats alone.

      • elysianfield January 16, 2018 at 11:06 am #

        Jmar,
        Yes, that is what we have been told, but the BBC…?

        • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 11:59 am #

          They’re only passing on the findings of the universities of Oslo and Ferrara, elysianfield. Don’t shoot the messenger 🙂

          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42690577

          As a BBC license-fee payer, I’m happy to let you have this information free, gratis and for nothing (but never, as I mentioned before ‘for free’!).

  38. JohnAZ January 15, 2018 at 6:16 pm #

    Outsider

    I agree with most of what your response said. I served in Vietnam And saw what that did to this country. The way things are going, this country is not going to last much longer as a unit. I hope that something will unify this country other than war. Until ethical differences become less important than the unity of the country, we are heading for dissolution. I hope the horse manure is cleaned up. Time and only time will tell.

    • thwack January 15, 2018 at 6:47 pm #

      I agree with most of what your response said. I served in Vietnam

      *********

      did you kill anybody?

      • elysianfield January 15, 2018 at 7:15 pm #

        “did you kill anybody?”

        And what color were they? And did you perform a “combat jerk” before, during, or after the slaughter”

        Thwack,
        You are getting a bit stale….

      • outsider January 15, 2018 at 8:29 pm #

        thwack,
        I also served in the Vietnam Era, but was lucky enough to be sent to Europe instead. I find your disrespectful question to JohnAZ, who served his country in a war he did not create or believe in, to be disgusting.

        • thwack January 15, 2018 at 9:59 pm #

          I find your disrespectful question to JohnAZ, who served his country in a war he did not create or believe in, to be disgusting.

          *************

          Why?

          One of the reasons blacks people are so ignorant and stupid is because they don’t ask questions.

          Do you want me to stay ignorant and stupid?

          • elysianfield January 16, 2018 at 11:35 am #

            “Do you want me to stay ignorant and stupid?”

            Thwack,
            We are now discussing your meme? The Step-N-Fetchit routine is embarrassing.

      • The Articulate Infant January 15, 2018 at 8:48 pm #

        C’mon Thwack, that’s a bit over the top.
        Remember the words of onehunglo: ‘Just as happiness is a choice, so is anger. Let not your heart be troubled’

        • windward January 16, 2018 at 8:54 am #

          Translating into American, “let not you hearts be troubled” means “Do not read this blog and especially not the comments. You have been warned.”

          I tried an anagram maker. For onehunglo we have “He Log On Nu.” May he keep doing so. Or she.

          • windward January 16, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

            Where he go?

          • windward January 17, 2018 at 9:05 am #

            Either JHK can’t stand onehunglo and deleted his post here, or onehunglo and JHK are one and the same. Some kind of multi-level chess going on here?

  39. Pucker January 15, 2018 at 6:26 pm #

    I think that among Black intellectuals there have been basically 3 schools of thought as to how to elevate black people in America?: (1) The WEB Dubois/ MLK School, which maintains that the condition of black people can be improved by political struggle and Civil Rights; (2) The Booker T. Washington School, which holds that black people must be re-taught skills lost because of Emancipation so as to give black people employment and an economic footing which will earn respect from whites; and (3) The Malcom X approach which maintains that the education of the black man must be a moral education, which also includes social segregation from the white man.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=186s&v=l-pkSu9ORo0

  40. Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 6:29 pm #

    Q: I won’t be going to the Churchill movie. This reviewer says Winnie gets on the Tube and is given a pep talk by a Black, who even gives him some help with his famous speech. That’s just beyond the Pale – a blatant lie but one they’re pushing 24/7 – the idea that Blacks always lived in England.

    https://alternative-right.blogspot.ru/2018/01/churchill-dunkirk-and-darkest-hour.html?m=1

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    • GreenAlba January 15, 2018 at 8:17 pm #

      Janos, sorry to disappoint you but there have been black people in Britain since the 11th century. Your ignorance is unbelievable. Do you only use search engines that limit results to white supremacist websites?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_African_immigrants_in_London

      “World War II marked another growth period for black immigrants into London and British societies. Many black people from the Caribbean and West Africa arrived in small groups of troops as wartime workers, merchant seamen, and servicemen from the army, navy, and air forces. It is estimated that approximately 10,000 black people mostly from around the British Empire lived in communities concentrated in the dock areas of the cities of London, Liverpool and Cardiff in total.”

      I’ll be enjoying the film on Friday. Shame you’ll miss it – and for reasons of such dire ignorance and prejudice.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 9:15 pm #

        A swallow doesn’t make a summer. Your desperate attempt to mitigate the ongoing crisis of White genocide is noted.

        • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 10:56 am #

          I think you have already won the Non-Sequitur of the Year award, Janos, so no need to keep on trying.

          I merely pointed out, clearly enough, I thought, that there have been black people in the UK for some considerable time, albeit a very small number back in the 11th century. There were certainly quite a few by the time Churchill was around, so there is nothing untoward in the idea that he might have chatted to some. Perhaps you would prefer that I deny the truth, trivial as it is.

          “Your desperate attempt to mitigate the ongoing crisis of White genocide is noted.”

          Your repetitive nonsense is noted. And if such a crisis of genocide indeed existed, I’d have thought ‘mitigating’ it would be a good thing in your eyes.

          All I do, Janos, is work (just a bit, now), enjoy my family and friends (some quite far away), and occasionally write some comments on this blog which make no difference to anybody.

          My motto in life, in retrospect, has been like the medics: primum non nocere. Deeds of omission, you might say, like not polluting the atmosphere (literal or figurative) any more than I need to with cars, flights, excessive consumption or hateful comments.

          • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 11:04 am #

            PS if you’re determined to deprive yourself of the Churchill film, I can recommend ‘Three billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri’ as an alternative.

            An excellent film. A good number of people in the cinema clapped spontaneously at the end, something I haven’t witnessed in years. Perhaps it was because most of the stereotyped characters morphed into full human beings by the end of the film.

            And it was very funny. You would probably benefit from a laugh, even from a black comedy, he he…Or do you have to avoid those on principle as well?

          • elysianfield January 16, 2018 at 11:12 am #

            “An excellent film”

            Three Billboards…? Our Host thought otherwise. See his movie review if interested.

          • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 12:04 pm #

            elysianfield

            I have no pretensions in the film criticism department. I enjoyed it and so did everyone else in the cinema. If that makes me an inferior being, so be it. We are but Brits after all, and most of us there were even more narrowly defined than that 🙂

          • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 12:06 pm #

            I think I was the only person in the country to hate Trainspotting, so I don’t recommend myself as a critic!

          • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 1:43 pm #

            In other words, it makes perfect sense to you that Churchill would get on the tube (is this likely to begin with?) and then ask commoners what they think, and one of them just happens to be one of the miniscule Black population who then inspires him and gives him words he uses in his famous speech?

            It’s gratuitous, special pleading for the magic Negro who would go on to conquer TV, Film and all popular culture. If Churchill was that good a politician he would have ruled for life. But in reality, he tried to stop the blackening of England by mass immigration from Pakistan, India, and the West Indies, and was shouldered aside. This movie just blackens his already dark reputation by showing him as he wasn’t – some kind of egalitarian and proto-multiracialism.

            The movie Dunkirk is without Blacks at all thus far more historically accurate.

          • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 3:33 pm #

            Janos, would you mind waiting till I’ve seen the film before I comment on how realistic it is? Thanks.

            “It’s gratuitous, special pleading for the magic Negro who would go on to conquer TV, Film and all popular culture.”

            Get a grip, Janos.

            “The movie Dunkirk is without Blacks at all thus far more historically accurate.”

            And I give you…
            http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/dunkirk-france-1940-french-soldiers-algeria-commonwealth-white-wash-a7874501.html

            You will simply never stop making stuff up. Never.

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 10:01 am #

            elysianfield

            Finally read JHK’s review of Three Billboards. We clearly don’t like the same films, which is OK, I presume. I saw Elle, which he recommends, and found it awful. As I’ve lived over four years in France the general comportment of the French and their architectural settings aren’t a distraction for me, as I’m perfectly at home with both, so I just concentrated on the storyline, which I found ghastly.

            Three Billboards was a black comedy so I wasn’t looking for Shakespearean levels of character analysis. In fact I wasn’t looking for anything as I didn’t even know what it was about before I went, having been invited by a friend and having never heard of it.

            I also enjoyed McDonagh’s ‘In Bruges’, although I could have done with a lot less violence (similarly in places with Three Billboards). I probably only went to see it because I’m familiar with Bruges, but I wasn’t looking for realism there either, which was just as well.

            Nocturnal Animals definitely didn’t look like my kind of film, so I avoided it.

            Just as well we all have different tastes 🙂

      • BackRowHeckler January 17, 2018 at 12:21 am #

        The main criticism of the film ‘Dunkirk’ is that it didn’t have any ‘People of Color’ in it.

        Perhaps it should be banned, like the old Johnny Wiesmuller Tarzan movies from the 1940s. i loved those movies, specially the one when Tarzan went to NYC … and dove off the Brooklyn Bridge!

        brh

        • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 7:29 am #

          “Perhaps it should be banned”

          Almost a Janosism, brh. Learning from the master…

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 7:44 am #

            I haven’t seen the film and had no idea about any discussions concerning race in its regard. However, I’m used to checking up on Janos’ nonsense, because his regard for the truth is non-existent. Had it not been for that I’d have known nothing about it. And now that I know it makes no difference whatever to me. I wasn’t planning to see the film anyway. I’m Dunkirk-ed out.

            I managed to enjoy Downton Abbey even while knowing that the representation of the lives of the downstairs folk was fanciful to say the least. Nobody asked for it to be banned for historical error/unlikelihood because the aristocratic daughter married the chauffeur.

            One of the funniest aspects, though, was that they had to change the dog’s name, because, whether it was named after the goddess or the river, Isis suddenly became a bit of a liability for an aristocratic mutt. Political correctness, eh, it’s everywhere…

    • Sean Coleman January 17, 2018 at 12:15 pm #

      Janos, here is an excellent review by Peter Hitchens:

      http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2018/01/initial-thoughts-on-the-new-churchill-film-darkest-hour-.html

      “I believe Churchill went on the underground once in his life, could not work out how to get out of it and had to be rescued…

      “Yet somehow the great man manages to soothe a cockney sparrow, several women and a remarkably literary black citizen who just happens to be on this historic train, into chatting freely with him and finishes his quotation from Macauley’s ‘Lays of Ancient Rome’. And they all, with one voice, support continuing the war.”

  41. JohnAZ January 15, 2018 at 6:36 pm #

    In amongst all the discussion of race and national unity, has anyone noticed the rising price of oil? It will hit the gasoline markets in the Spring. If the Long Emergency takes off, we will see what happens then.

    • BackRowHeckler January 15, 2018 at 10:53 pm #

      Oil doesn’t get talked about much around here anymore, JohnAz.

      I’ve broached the subject a few times, mostly based upon articles and columns I’ve seen in the WSJ (which does a good job covering energy markets, incidentally) but it just falls flat, nobody cares.

      brh

      • outsider January 16, 2018 at 9:40 am #

        Yes, James missed the mark on Peak Oil. But he will still be proven right – One Day.

  42. jim e January 15, 2018 at 6:57 pm #

    According to my Uncle Andrew who was James Earl Ray’s divorce attorney, the happiest day of James Earl Ray’s life was when he got his divorce. he said that it was the only case James Earl ever won.

    Happy MLK Day!

    • elysianfield January 16, 2018 at 11:14 am #

      Jim,
      I once had a roommate who’s brother’s claim to fame was that he arrested MLK in Greenwood, Miss.

      • jim e January 16, 2018 at 6:52 pm #

        When appearing before the judge in a complaint against me…

        “If it’s it good enough for MLK it’s good enough for me”.

        • jim e January 16, 2018 at 7:25 pm #

          letter from a birmingham jail

  43. Dumbedup January 15, 2018 at 7:27 pm #

    40.2% of SNAP households are white.

    25.7% are black

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/food-stamp-demographics_n_6771938.html

    • Dumbedup January 15, 2018 at 7:27 pm #

      In 2013.

      • The Articulate Infant January 15, 2018 at 8:38 pm #

        Sounds like a whole heap o’ structural racism going on.

    • The Articulate Infant January 15, 2018 at 8:35 pm #

      Here’s a quote, from an African-American man (trigger warning): “I believe that racism exists only in the media and the minds of the foolish”
      -Ali Shakur, Hotep Nation, Feb 8 2017

    • outsider January 16, 2018 at 9:45 am #

      Dumbed Up,

      What are you trying to prove by that stat? As approx. 80% of HH are white and 13% black, that means that black HH, percentage wise, are twice as likely to be on SNAP than white HH.

      • Dumbedup January 17, 2018 at 11:28 am #

        80% of the US population is not white. (unless you include Hispanic)

        The point is to counter the rhetoric that the program only benefits minorities.

  44. Pucker January 15, 2018 at 7:58 pm #

    Do you like to listen to gospel music on the colored radio station?

    • The Articulate Infant January 15, 2018 at 8:37 pm #

      Sometimes – though in my younger days I preferred ska and rocksteady, still do, but only a little these days.

    • elysianfield January 16, 2018 at 11:18 am #

      Pucker,
      I have a CD of Gospel songs sung by Sam Cooke…almost sweet enough to get me into a church….

  45. tucsonspur January 15, 2018 at 8:50 pm #

    There is still hope for Europe, still a chance to turn the tide. But there must be no wavering or equivocating:

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/italy-candidate-immigration-endangers-white-race-52358033

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  46. Pucker January 15, 2018 at 9:01 pm #

    Dreamers:

    What do you think about the en masse granting of Roman citizenship to Italians around 90 BCE?

    • Janos Skorenzy January 15, 2018 at 9:18 pm #

      At least they were White and in that sense, related to the Romans. A few centuries later, there were almost no Romans left in Rome at all. Nothing but immigrants from abroad. Augustus Caesar condemned the Roman Elite for their sterility, homosexuality, and feminism.

      • BackRowHeckler January 15, 2018 at 10:49 pm #

        Sounds like the USA, 2018.

        brh

      • akmofo January 16, 2018 at 12:20 am #

        The Romans and Greek were Semites. Greeks are descendants of the seafaring Hebrew Dan tribe who lived in what today is Lebanon, and are known to us as the Phoenicians. As the Danites sailed north they took with them the Hebrew alphabet. What became the Greek alphabet is a reversed mirror image of the original Hebrew. The Roman alphabet is a derivative of the Greek.

        https://youtu.be/b-Bqe5rfl5s

        Rome was “founded” by a Greek king and an Etruscan queen. It was really an Etruscan village before the Greek king took it over. The names escape me now, but the Greek king or prince was a refugee from the Trojan Wars. Both the Estruscans and Greeks were Semites. You can see this clearly in their wall and pottery painting of themselves. They had dark curly hair and yellowish brown skin. DNA analysis from their ancient graves confirms this.

        • akmofo January 16, 2018 at 12:30 am #

          The Greek king that founded Rome was prince Aeneas of Troy.

        • akmofo January 16, 2018 at 12:50 am #

          Also,
          where our math numerals really come from
          https://youtu.be/UTp_WCDQCUU

        • akmofo January 16, 2018 at 8:33 am #

          Depends on epigenetics:
          https://youtu.be/EgG6jCwnd48

          You can have black semites and blond semites and indus looking semites and even chinese /japanese asian looking semites. It all depends on how long they’ve been in what environment.

  47. BackRowHeckler January 15, 2018 at 9:06 pm #

    Somebody earlier suggested ‘raising the minimum wage’ as a way to keep black families together and materially improving their lives.

    What the hell would that do except drive marginal and struggling business’s under and make the ghetto more of a barren wasteland than it already is. The fact is each and every year almost 2 million immigrants are flooding in here, legal and illegal, most from the poverty stricken 3rd world, and many willing to work under the table almost nothing.

    Labor is cheap, specially unskilled 3rd world labor. As long as they keep coming in at this rate wages will keep falling. This is the real cause for the so called wealth gap.

    brh

    • elysianfield January 16, 2018 at 11:21 am #

      “Labor is cheap, specially unskilled 3rd world labor. As long as they keep coming in at this rate wages will keep falling. This is the real cause for the so called wealth gap.”

      …And how do we like it now?

  48. janet January 15, 2018 at 9:27 pm #

    Somebody earlier suggested ‘raising the minimum wage’ as a way to keep black families together and materially improving their lives. What the hell would that do…? –brh

    More money in pocket, means more money spent at local businesses, means fewer businesses going bankrupt, means more people needed to produce, manage, sell, etc. … employment goes up, businesses thrive because they have more customers, because people have more money in pocket.

  49. BackRowHeckler January 15, 2018 at 10:44 pm #

    I’ve been working in this plant 8 years now, on the graveyard shift, sometime on a split shift. (I like working at night, more relaxed atmosphere, easier commute. At any rate a lot of work in printing is nights) About half of my co workers are black. Never once in these 8 years have I heard any of these guys talk about race, complain about racism, show any hostility toward me, the country, the country’s history, or anything. Also sitting around the break room last night did I hear anybody mention Martin Luther King Day. It just doesn’t seem that important to them. Granted, most of these guys are West Indian, whose main concern seems to be to make enough money to send something to their families at the end of the month, and to save enough in order at some point to get the hell out of here and set themselves up back in the islands. A few months ago I was reading Redeker’s book about pirates. An old Jamaican guy saw the book and went into a long discourse about piracy in the Caribbean, Port Royal, Henry Morgan, Blackbeard, Ned Low, Madagascar etc. … he knew what he was talking about. when i said to him “Chamberlain, I’m impressed with your knowledge” he drew himself up and stated proudly “Marlin, I was educated under the British system”.

    It seems like its the Dem agit/prop (CNN, NYT, NBC) and campus lefties who are obsessed with Racism, Racism, Racism, using it as a club to bludgeon us into submission.

    brh

    • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 3:16 am #

      He was just a Communist agitator posing as a Christian minister. That he got as far as he did is just a measure of how utterly clueless, guilt tripped, and dumbed down White Americans are. The guy whose thesis he plagiarized said he was proud to be of service to such a great man. Cuck.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 3:17 am #

      Some say the Black Flag of Jihad is the origin of the Pirate Jolly Roger.

    • outsider January 16, 2018 at 9:56 am #

      BRH,

      I don’t know where you live, but the first question coming to mind is how come your employer chose to hire blacks from the West Indies rather than American blacks?

      • elysianfield January 16, 2018 at 11:24 am #

        “I don’t know where you live, but the first question coming to mind is how come your employer chose to hire blacks from the West Indies rather than American blacks?”

        Culture?

  50. homesteader January 15, 2018 at 10:46 pm #

    So predictable. Before I clicked on today’s essay, I told my wife that I’ll bet Kunstler is going to use Trump’s “sh*thole” remarks as an excuse to attack African-Americans.

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    • hellacia January 16, 2018 at 2:03 am #

      And as predictable as the sunrise, Kunstler does the angry old white man shtick. Why is he always complaining about black people? I mean he’s in some white paradise in upstate New York; I’m sure his white gaze rarely has to encompass anyone darker than ecru.

      I only visit this blog to see what old white men with delusions of supremacy are complaining about. The Brotherhood has many spies.

      • The Articulate Infant January 16, 2018 at 3:34 am #

        FIFY
        And as predictable as Janet, hellacia does the hysterical far left whitey shtick. Why are you always complaining about white people? I mean I’m sure you live in some white hipster enclave, I’m sure your white gaze rarely has to encompass anyone darker than you.
        I only visit this blog to complain about white people and spout my delusions of far left moral supremacy. The transhood has many ways to articulate ‘i hate whitey’ sentiment.

        • hellacia January 16, 2018 at 4:49 pm #

          Hi Infant! Good thing you don’t describe yourself as infallible as I am paper bag brown, live in a shithole in Texas called Houston, and enjoy keeping track of the pulse of white male American prejudice. So thanks for providing another datapoint.

          Did you ever see the movie Undercover Brother ? It might have been a documentary.

    • The Articulate Infant January 16, 2018 at 3:28 am #

      Do you work at huffpo or salon.com or some such hysterical outfit that thinks it is news? HOW did our host ‘attack; african americans? If you’ve got such a beef with this site, I’d suggest to stop reading it.

      • windward January 16, 2018 at 9:06 am #

        How did you miss it?

  51. pequiste January 16, 2018 at 12:42 am #

    Well, I am certainly happy we can turn the page on Race relations in the U.S.S.A.

    Over in Jolly Olde England quite a kerfuffle over one Mr. Bolton’s (the U.K.I.P. leader) girlfriend’s tweets about Ms. Markle, the fiance of Prince Harry. SHe’s mulatto and the girlfriend of Bolton made some rayciss remarks concerning the situation. Shocking.

    I would have thought a proper insult to Harry’s beau would have been to call her an American.

    • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 11:26 am #

      Harry’s ‘belle’, surely? Don’t be suggesting he swings both ways or he’ll be in double trouble. His ancestry is already partly in question, although most people have enough sense not to care.

      And the worst insult might be to call him Ginger.

      Also, the girlfriend in question (the gobby one) has now achieved the status of ex-girlfriend. Yes, my friends, he chose the job.

      Probably pointless, though, as several ‘prominent’ members of UKIP (the bar is not high and they change leaders like most people change their socks) think he’s cr@p. And that’s really saying something.

      And the remarks the gobby one made were just ‘racist’. ‘Mulatto’ is not a word you hear around these parts in common parlance. She’s an American to most people here. Like Wallis Simpson but without the Nazi sympathies.

  52. janet January 16, 2018 at 1:18 am #

    Republicans control Congress and White House. Government shutdown coming Friday. How long will the troops continue fighting without being paid?

  53. Pucker January 16, 2018 at 3:30 am #

    So none of you CFN “Mofo’s” can recommend a well-researched, non-biased book on the state of black America today and the American black underclass? It seems that no such book exists?

    • The Articulate Infant January 16, 2018 at 3:37 am #

      ‘well-researched, non-biased book on the state of black America today and the American black underclass? It seems that no such book exists?’
      And you would be right Pucker, because that would be, uh, racist, you see.

      • janet January 16, 2018 at 3:55 am #

        I’m looking for a well-researched, non-biased book on the state of pink unicorns in America today

        • Pucker January 16, 2018 at 8:32 am #

          So if there are no well-researched, non-biased books on the state of black America and the black underclass, then what-the-Fuck are we doing?! It’s intellectually like morbidly obese people trying to fuck.

    • elysianfield January 16, 2018 at 11:28 am #

      Puck,
      Of course they exist, try Jared Taylor’s “Paved with Good Intentions”, Would have mentioned it earlier save for the avoidance of argument over your qualifiers….

  54. FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 7:06 am #

    Fourth Reich is Set for a Clash with Trump in Davos over American attempts to regain National Sovereignty

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel is considering joining French President Emmanuel Macron at the World Economic Forum in Davos next week in what could turn into an epic clash of competing world views with U.S. President Donald Trump.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-davos-meeting-merkel/merkel-could-join-macron-in-davos-for-epic-clash-with-trump-idUSKBN1F30HB

    That comes on top of news that Bundesbank said it’ll add China’s Yuan to currency reserves at the expense of the American dollar.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-15/bundesbank-to-include-yuan-in-currency-reserves-dombret-says

    • FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 7:17 am #

      Arseniy Yatsenyuk, fmr PM of Ukraine during his visit to Berlin said: We all remember very well the Soviet invasion of Ukraine and Germany.

      The Government of Germany has left without comment the words of the Prime Minister of Ukraine on “the invasion of the USSR into Germany and Ukraine”, which he said in an interview to the German television channel ARD.

      That is, Berlin did not deny that the Federal Republic of Germany no longer exists, that the power in Germany was captured by people who consider themselves to be heirs to the Nazi Germany.

      Now the other countries of the European Union have to admit that they are part of the Fourth Reich.

  55. Bruce E January 16, 2018 at 10:29 am #

    It’s interesting that, in the name of a goal of “common culture” and whatnot, the intolerance of someone saying the word, “ask,” in a way that sounds like “axe” is not duplicated for someone who wants to fly a traitorous symbol like the Confederate Flag right alongside the nation’s standard, as if these images and symbols we embrace are not part and parcel to this “common culture” aspiration.

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    • elysianfield January 16, 2018 at 11:31 am #

      “It’s interesting that, in the name of a goal of “common culture” and whatnot, the intolerance of someone saying the word, “ask,” in a way that sounds like “axe” is not duplicated for someone who wants to fly a traitorous symbol like the Confederate Flag right alongside the nation’s standard, as if these images and symbols we embrace are not part and parcel to this “common culture” aspiration.”

      …What?

      • Bruce E January 16, 2018 at 11:31 am #

        Do I need to dumb it down for you?

        • elysianfield January 16, 2018 at 6:34 pm #

          Yes,
          could you restate?

          • Bruce E January 17, 2018 at 3:40 pm #

            JHK talks about how he “made the remark that it ought to be a primary mission in education to teach proper spoken English — because without that ability, kids might not be able to learn anything else” in the context of an appeal to “common culture” and in the context of blaming multi-culturalism for many of the ills befalling the non-white races/cultures of America. This is what I was talking about in the “ask” versus “axe” intolerance. In the name of “common culture,” JHK is proposing a level of intolerance when it comes to how people pronounce words.

            He does not, however, propose any level of intolerance when it comes to our nation’s symbols in the same vein. He demands blacks toe the line when it comes to how they pronounce their words (conveniently not berating other white dialects such as a Bostonian “chowdah” or any reference to southern drawls), telling black people they must give up a cultural marker that distinguishes them, but cannot bring himself to tell whites to let go of their cultural symbols such as an Confederate flag, which represents the opposite of a common culture since the whole purpose of the Confederacy was to destroy the United States of America and split the common culture of America into slave-states and free-states.

            Is that any clearer to you?

          • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 7:13 pm #

            Bruce,
            Thank you for the effort. I believe your metric, however could then be described to any difference in the races…where will we experience the fallacy?

            Telling Blacks to be responsible, when (White) US Foreign policy appears not;

            Telling Blacks to marry before having children, when white families divorce at alarming rates;

            Telling Blacks to obey the law, when the lawmakers obviously don’t’

            Telling Blacks not to “sling” dope, when many
            Whites use it;

            Telling Blacks to respect education and assimilate, when Whites…well Most Whites respect education and assimilation.

            Your error lies in the fact that you do not condemn Black behavior which leads to their cultural failures, while using aberrant white behavior as an excuse…an EXCUSE for Black dysfunction.

            With all respect, there may be reasons for the failure of Blacks to assimilate and prosper in the US…but no excuses.

          • Bruce E January 18, 2018 at 10:56 am #

            “With all respect, there may be reasons for the failure of Blacks to assimilate and prosper in the US…but no excuses.”

            One could say the same for people who cling to symbols of the Confederacy (or worse, such as swastikas) and place a certain amount of pride and identity into these symbols and the history behind them, which is preventing them from “assimilating” and thus prospering in the greater US, at least relative to their northern counterparts.

            However, for some reason all of the patronizing concern for failure to prosper, because of their inability to “assimilate,” is reserved for black people, and the dots are not connected when it comes to other non-assimilating countercultures when they happen to be mostly white men.

            Rather than predicating prosperity on cultural assimilation, perhaps we can find a way to extend prosperity to a diverse and multi-cultural society. That way black people can keep their cultural markers of language and Southern white boys can keep rollin’ coal and blackening both the Confederate and US flags flying in the back of their pickup trucks, and we can maybe just learn to tolerate both kinds of cultural quirks that would otherwise annoy us.

            And then we could work on stopping with the excuses and blaming those who are poorer than average for being poorer than average, and ask ourselves how it is that we’ve distributed the greater prosperity in a way that favors white men in the West and the Northeast with huge and unending stock market returns with little or no risk, and leaves the blacks, the Latinos, and the white people in rural and agricultural areas out of that distribution.

    • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 11:31 am #

      And from what I recall, Bush II had some difficulty with words, including ‘nukular’. His patois didn’t seem to keep him back…

      • Bruce E January 16, 2018 at 11:35 am #

        Damn, how I miss complaining about W’s “nukular,” at least by comparison to what I complain about today…

        • pequiste January 16, 2018 at 2:10 pm #

          Don’t forget there Bruce, “W” was the Man-In-Charge for 11 September 2001. “W” was the ” Decider” for the invasion and occupation of Taliban operated Afghanistan (Y’all know I really mean Shitholistan,) “W” declared that Saddam Hussein al-Tikriti had “weapons of mass destruction” and subsequently invaded and occupied Iraq. We are still in both places even tho’ “W” pronounced “mission accomplished!”

          Mmmmm and how many dead are there from these military adventures? Thousands of us and hundreds of thousands, maybe more, of them. And what of the wounded I see at the V.A. hospital for “W: bringing them “freedom and Democracy?”

          We are still there as it happens: Barry Soetoro Obama was a bombing, droning, freedom and democracy bringer too!

          “Nukular” is a humorous diversion as opposed to the mailed fist reality of the Patriot Act; The Department of Homeland Security

          As far as race relations were concerned during the “W” administration – don’t forget what he said at an Alfred Smith banquet; directly and without ornamentation:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn4daYJzyls

          The Race issue he was concerned with was NASCAR.

          And African Americans were treated to eight years of relatively benign neglect. Not like Barry O.’s wunderbar race and religion-baiting .

          Now getting back to the perpetual wars the “W” left us with…….

          • capt spaulding January 16, 2018 at 3:01 pm #

            Bush was the earlier example of the “wisdom” that the red state inhabitants exhibited when it comes to electing presidents. History shows that they weren’t smart enough to make good choices. Not that Gore was much better. He probably wouldn’t have lied his way into Iraq and a 15 year war however.

    • cbeard January 17, 2018 at 5:28 am #

      Traitorous symbol by your standards. I say its a glorious, hallowed, aesthetically pleasing symbol. I’ve never been so proud as one day at the Waldo, Florida Bluegrass Festival. When the emcee announced the national anthem and the band proceeded to play a beautiful rendition of “DIXIE’.

      • Bruce E January 17, 2018 at 3:41 pm #

        Traitorous because it represents the Confederacy, which wanted to destroy the US and replace it with something else, which is the very definition of treason.

  56. FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 11:32 am #

    Israel. Dialog of a Russian and Moroccan Jews

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4GVKymQu8Q

    The Russian explains to Moroccan that if not for the Soviet Army, he and his entire family would nicely fit in a modest size soap bar.

    With the help of 10 words in Hebrew and 5 in obscene, but well-spoken Russian, the final clarification was made on the following issues:

    – Instant check of knowledge of the memorable dates of the 20th century

    – History of the Holocaust and World War II

    – Technologies for preparing personal hygiene products by the Nazis

    – Culturology, ethnography, national traditions and peculiarities of the mentality of the peoples of northern Africa

    – Geography, climatology and specific features of the natural reproduction of traditional agricultural cultures in Morocco

    – The procedure for the use of personal protective equipment by security officers

    – Methods of controlling hypersexuality in a limited circle of representatives of the opposite sex

    • FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 11:49 am #

      I know Israel too poorly to comment on the situation there, but it’s clear on the video that the Moroccan suggests that Lieberman and all Russian Jews, members of his mafia, be put in prison.

      A daughter of my relatives when she was 10 “escaped from Russian anti-Semitism to Israel”, and at 25 years, after serving in the paratroopers of the Israeli Army, she told me how on her arrival, the Moroccan boys at school beat her head against the wall – they demanded that she say that her mother is a whore, because all the “Russian women” are whores.

      By the way, I saw her in a bar put a two-foot 150 kg Moroccan Jew on his knees with just two fingers when he began to say something about Russian women.

      And you could hear more anti-Semitic trash from Moroccan Jews than from all anti-Semites of the USSR and the rest of the world combined.

      And I can say that in the breaks between all sorts of meanness, they were very fond of speculating on what lies and vile business this entire Holocaust was, and if that was the case, the godly Ashkenazi deserved it in full.

    • akmofo January 17, 2018 at 6:39 am #

      I can help you there. The antipathy you describe does not exist. We get along superbly, and people go out of their way to help each other. New soviet immigrants to Israel are astounded by this behaviour, where they were used to indifference as normal.

      Most marriages in Israel are “mixed marriages”, as are most friendships. This is true of the old generation and even more so with the new generation. I see this in my own life and my friends, that of my siblings and their friends, that of my parents and their friends, and just general observation at my work place and observing people on the street.

      New immigrants have a natural inclination to be with their own language speakers. But the government to its credit has a very good policy of desegregating immigrants to all parts of the country, to all cities and towns, and to all neighbourhoods.

      • akmofo January 17, 2018 at 8:04 am #

        More than that, life in Israel is very street oriented. People like to be outside and socialize. The cafe culture, the street food culture, the beach culture, the picnics in the parks culture, the playing in the streets culture, the partying in the street culture, and just being with eachother and enjoying eachother’s company is extremely strong. I’ve traveled all over the world, and I haven’t been to any place where such social interactions are as strong as in Israel.

        • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 11:31 am #

          “More than that, life in Israel is very street oriented.”

          Mofo,
          Yes, our “news” channels are filled with street scenes….

          • akmofo January 17, 2018 at 12:45 pm #

            Yup, fake news is not news, it is a staged production.

          • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 3:57 pm #

            “Yup, fake news is not news, it is a staged production.”

            Mofo,
            …I am rendered speechless. I am afraid your comment will haunt you at a later date…sorry.

  57. BuckP January 16, 2018 at 12:18 pm #

    Apocalypse Now (1979)
    Willard:
    “Charlie didn’t get much USO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home: victory or death.”

    While America and the MSM gnash their teeth and lose their minds, like CNN screaming “shit-hole” every 30 seconds, over the latest Trump invective, the rest of the world is on the move. China is now the world’s largest economy. They now trade with other countries, like Russia, India, Japan, Iran and soon Germany, in their own currencies without using dollars. Being the world’s largest oil importer, Saudi Arabia and OPEC will more than likely follow suit. The World Monetary System is about to reset congruent with the demise of the International Dollar Standard and accompanying petrodollars. The petroyuan backed by gold will be hard to resist compared to those “hot off the presses” fiat dollars.
    I’m sure, we, America, with the world’s largest and most expensive military will fight back. Whether we have the stomach for war remains to be seen. On 1/4/2018, Chinese President Xi told his military to prepare for war and not fear hardship or death. The world is tired of our destructive ways both economically and militarily. We live high on the hog because we force the world to use our fiat money. If somebody challenges the dollar, Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, we either invade or foment a revolution, which leaves the country in shambles. The world isn’t afraid of us anymore.
    Meanwhile, we, still debate race, even after eight years of a black man being Prez and Oprah polling 20 points ahead of Trump for Prez in 2020. Autumn is over and the cold, hard, long winter is here. Spring is a long ways off. We do not have,the hard, resilient, courageous, GI Generation to bail us out this time, they are about gone. We are on our own!

    • FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 1:34 pm #

      Meanwhile, we, still debate race, even after eight years of a black man being Prez and Oprah polling 20 points ahead of Trump for Prez in 2020.

      No, we actually don’t, that’s mainstream media in the pay of the liberal Nazi puts out a cover story to obscure a simple fact that the deliverance of the USA from the oppression of liberal, corrupt to the core, Mafia – the Deep State/Black Project – will restore the prosperity of the Nation.

  58. volodya January 16, 2018 at 1:15 pm #

    Thankyou Back-row-heckler,

    I’ve been beating that drum for a long time. What the Left (and the Right) attributes to idiocy and racism – ie the election of Trump – is actually attributable to people voting their economic interests.

    That is, the virtually identical economic policies of the Democrats and Republicans ruined a large swathe of the American populace and, in voting for Trump, a great many of these people were hoping for something better (seeing as Trump said he’d fight for them while Hillary openly reviled them).

    It ain’t rocket science. It only takes a rudimentary knowledge of politics and power in the USA to know that if those millions of people coming across the southern border were lawyers and teachers, the political muscle of American lawyers and teachers would have got that wall built a long time ago. In fact it would be two miles high by now. But, you see, the illegals tread on the toes of the ordinary joe and the ordinary joe doesn’t count.

    Insofar as the discussion is about LEGAL immigrants, it’s the same dynamic. The interests of the powerful and the monied are not to be trifled with. If the millions of legal immigrants looking for work depress wage rates for ordinary workers it doesn’t matter. If the effect is even more pronounced because of the simultaneous offshoring of millions of American jobs, they’ll say whatever ill effects suffered by the native-born are fully deserved because they are racists and idiots.

    Insofar as the issue is security, if the Americans recently massacred by jihadists were the rich and the powerful ie congressmen, billionaires – instead of ordinary people at nightclubs or marathons, the borders would slam shut to Muslim immigration. Why? Because it would be deemed to be self-evident that Muslims are a security threat because nobody can separate the good apples from the bad. The gates would close with no apology and judges would toss out any legal challenge as frivolous. Class solidarity would prevail.

    IOW, as someone said on this blog not long ago, Deplorable = Expendable.

    • outsider January 16, 2018 at 2:11 pm #

      The part that the feckless GOP should be afraid of, but apparently are not, is that, though white middle America despised Hillary and voted overwhelmingly for Trump, Hillary still won the popular vote. Biden, who blew his last chance to run, (under severe pressure, I think), would probably have beaten Trump handily.

      So, it appears that any reasonable democrat, who doesn’t go around calling whites deplorables, should beat the republican next time, especially if it’s Trump. And yet, the GOP mostly continues to follow the Chamber of Commerce and ignore their white base by supporting large third world immigration. And the white base will shrink in every election from now on. Trump may be the LAST GOP president. The don’t call the republicans the stupid party for nothing – and limp-wristed Lindsay Graham is their poster boy.

      • outsider January 16, 2018 at 2:15 pm #

        Last sentence: ‘They’ not ‘The.’

    • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 2:22 pm #

      “If the millions of legal immigrants looking for work depress wage rates for ordinary workers it doesn’t matter. If the effect is even more pronounced because of the simultaneous offshoring of millions of American jobs, they’ll say whatever ill effects suffered by the native-born are fully deserved because they are racists and idiots.”

      I spent the last 20 years working in a white-collar job where pretty much everyone was university educated, although it wasn’t the best-paid sector. When I started in 1998, there were 70 people in our office (lots more in London/Oxford/Amsterdam/St Louis/Philadelphia).

      Over the years (and with a vast increase in speed since our American cousins took over the management of the business – they’re ruthless bean counters, uninterested in quality) jobs haemorrhaged to Chennai (and elsewhere). There are now 7 people in the office, and a significant bunch of us ‘exes’ working freelance, because the small number of remaining staff can’t cope.

      When I worked in the office, we were entirely friendly to our Indian colleagues. It wasn’t their fault the jobs moved to them. And, in fairness, one would need to remember that when the Brits appropriated India, it had a thriving textile industry, which said Brits proceeded to dismantle, at the barrel of a gun, so that the raw cotton could be exported to the mills of Lancashire where the toiling masses could make money for the privileged few until the wealth spread around a bit in the 20th century. So I reckoned we didn’t have that much to complain about. So it’s not just blue-collar workers who suffer in modern economies.

      But contrary to what Janos would tell you, because – how shall I put this? – he makes stuff up, I have no problem with a country having proper borders and not taking in any more people than it reasonably can. Genuine refugees are an entirely different, humanitarian matter. In an ideal world, we’d all help rebuild their countries (especially if we’d helped bomb it to smithereens in the first place, even by proxy) and most of them could go home, which is what many of them want.

      And I agree with Lil Debbie’s point on the previous thread that one of the most unfortunate effects of large-scale emigration is that the best and brightest tend to be the ones most able to move, leading to a loss of skills that the home country can ill afford to lose and that its taxpayers have often helped educate. Even before the current situation, both of our countries have taken doctors who were much needed at home and whose training was paid for at home (Australia, more recently, is taking ours, whose training was partly paid for by us…).

      We had the same thing here in the 60s when there was a brain drain to America and Australia. We will have the same thing post-Brexit when we haemorrhage some of our best educators and research scientists to Europe.

      • outsider January 16, 2018 at 3:15 pm #

        Hi GA,

        Seriously, I feel your pain. I also had a white collar job where around 150 or so worked when I started. Over time, they often didn’t replace workers as they left or retired, even though the workload continued to increase. It was impossible to keep up. I really didn’t think, health wise, I’d make it to the finish, but hung in there just long enough to keep my medical benefits as I kissed that thankless job goodbye. If we had had national healthcare here as you do in England, I would have retired sooner to do something else.

        Anyway, your position on immigrants/refugees still seems pretty squishy. You have no problem with your country not “taking in any more people than it reasonably can.” But then you add “Genuine refugees are an entirely different, humanitarian matter.” As you make an exception for refugees, then basically you believe in an endless amount of them coming to your country, if need be, regardless of the people’s ability to pay for them. No?

        Sorry, but your position of trying to segregate immigrants from refugees, as you attempt to limit one but have no ceiling on the other, sounds like a recipe for disaster.

        • GreenAlba January 16, 2018 at 6:57 pm #

          Hi outsider

          Thanks re the job, but I was relatively lucky. I’m happy to be able to take the small number of jobs I want now, and still be working with colleagues/friends and systems I’m familiar with. Although the bits that make up my pension would be considered a joke by almost anyone on this site, my needs are few and, even if I should end up on my own tomorrow, I’ll be fine until it all goes belly up!

          Anyway…on the point of refugees, I wasn’t really talking about my country anyway. The UK hasn’t taken that many in the recent crisis. Also, despite what people think, we’re not in the Schengen area so don’t have open (internal EU) borders in the way that most of the other EU countries do, so the only contentious refugees are the ones currently in Calais, who are a bone of contention between the UK and France. The important thing is to sort out something for the under-age ones, who are at risk of trafficking etc.

          The UK government agreed to take 20,000 Syrian refugees, which is a relatively tiny number, and it seems it hasn’t lived up to its promise so far…

          http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/refugee-crisis-uk-syrians-resettled-latest-numbers-news-asylum-claims-high-eritrea-human-rights-a7158086.html

          David Cameron made much of the UK’s support to refugee centres just outside Syrian borders and claimed it was prioritising vulnerable groups like women and children from there to be taken to the UK.

          In general, no, it’s not possible for any one country to take everyone. Refugee rights exist under international law, though, so such crises should be managed internationally.

          But I still maintain that if all the money spent on bombing people back to the Middle Ages had been spent on constructive support instead of destruction, a whole lot of emigration wouldn’t have happened in the first place. When I was in Syria, we saw refugee camps on the outskirts of Damascus (organically growing built shelters, not tents) which housed Iraqi refugees, who were there because of your government and mine. And they already had camps with Palestinian refugees from before that. Jordan has refugees too. It’s not the case that everyone’s coming to our countries, even when our countries caused or contributed to the horrors that made people flee.

          • outsider January 16, 2018 at 8:28 pm #

            GA,

            You and I, and even Janos I think, are in synch when it comes to US, and to a smaller extent UK, bombing and terrorizing country after country. The American people are sick unto death of endless war – and that’s the largest reason why the Peace Candidate, Donald J. Trump, was elected. We didn’t get peace, of course, so where do we turn, or do we just stay home next election? I’m staying home as I plan, but won’t build, my bomb shelter.

            I’ve never been to England, so this is just speculation, but regarding the ongoing refugee crisis you mention in Calais, perhaps those old British patriots were right when they opposed building the ‘Chunnel.’ Britain should have remained an island and, by connecting it with the mainland, the chunnel ruined it. Such is ‘progress.’ What would Churchill have thought?

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 8:38 am #

            outsider

            The ongoing situation in Calais is relatively limited. The problem is that asylum seekers have the legal right to seek asylum in the first safe country they reach, but many of these choose not to seek asylum in France, but prefer to go to the UK. Some have friends/family there and indeed some of the youngsters have been reunited with existing family. Some prefer the UK for other reasons (but following Macron’s recent visit some seemed happy to apply for asylum in France after all). After Brexit, Macron will undoubtedly insist that border controls are repatriated to Dover, so we shall see.

            As with most situations of this type, some will be genuine refugees, while others will be ‘economic migrants’. That’s why they are treated individually (often in holding centres that are so awful a few choose suicide or to go back home), which takes more time than would be ideal. Macron, for his part, is promising to speed things up on the French side for those who choose to apply to stay in France.

            As regards the actual tunnel, there have been problems with people trying to jump lorries as they leave France – some desperate people have died in the attempt, but they could do that if the lorries were going by ferry as well. Security is such that people can’t just get into the tunnel and walk through – the checkpoints are way back from the actual tunnel.

            And the tunnel is amazing – 2hrs 20 mins in comfort from the lovely St Pancras station to the centre of Paris without the annoyance of airports – I”m sure Churchill would have approved in the end!

            You should visit, outsider – I recommend the Yorkshire Moors and Dales, and Scotland, though, not just London. 🙂

          • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 11:38 am #

            “The problem is that asylum seekers have the legal right to seek asylum in the first safe country they reach”

            Alba,
            In what Universe is your statement correct? As I understand the issue of Brexit, one of the major motivators was so as not to have to accept your premise.

            Sounds like an EU or UN pronouncement. Not codified in American Law.

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

            elysianfield

            Indeed it is not codified in American law. I was talking about Europe, where it is the case:

            https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/policy_research/the_truth_about_asylum/facts_about_asylum_-_page_4

            “There is no such thing as an ‘illegal’ or ‘bogus’ asylum seeker. Under international law, anyone has the right to apply for asylum in any country that has signed the 1951 Convention and to remain there until the authorities have assessed their claim.”

            “There is nothing in international law to say that refugees must claim asylum in the first country they reach. *A European regulation* allows a country such as the UK to return an adult asylum seeker to the first European country they reached. This means that countries on the edge of Europe have responsibility for a lot more asylum seekers than others.
            Some of the countries through which people travel to get to Europe are not safe places and many have not signed the Refugee Convention, meaning that people who remain there will not get international protection and be able to rebuild their lives.”

            **********

            So a universe right here, albeit far from you. 🙂

            The UK being an island (or islands) and far from where most emigration starts, it is unlikely that many people would attempt to get here directly. Hence the log-jam in Calais and the arguments with France about whose responsibility the asylum seekers there are.

            And the Brexiters got very mixed up about who they wanted to keep out. Primarily it was supposed to be mostly the Poles, but some thought it was people from outside Europe a well, who can’t just waltz in here anyway as we’re not in Schengen.

            Immigration from outside the EU has been less controlled than from inside, despite the Home Office (previously under one Theresa May for some considerable time) having entire responsibility for it. They chose not to bother their heads, despite their words, and people have the unfortunate habit of mixing all sorts of concepts together when they vote, especially when the likes of Nigel Farage shamelessly create racist posters suggesting that hordes of foreigners are beating their way to our open borders, which aren’t open in the first place.

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 1:45 pm #

            *as well…*

          • Elrond Hubbard January 17, 2018 at 3:30 pm #

            elysianfield,

            The U.S. is a signatory to the 1967 Protocol Relating to the Status of Refugees. This treaty, and its 1951 predecessor (the Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees), take as their foundation the recognition, in Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948, of the right of persons to seek asylum from persecution in other countries.

            Article VI, Clause 2 (the “supremacy clause”) of the U.S. constitution establishes that (a) said constitution, (b) federal laws made pursuant to it, and (c) treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land. As a signatory to the 1967 Protocol*, the U.S. government has thus accepted these provisions as its supreme law.

            If you don’t like it, you can always hire a lobbyist.

            * Don’t.

          • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 7:26 pm #

            “At present, the only real consequences of violation (of the 1967 protocols) are 1) public shaming in the press, and 2) verbal condemnation of the violator by the UN and by other nations. To date these have not proven to be significant deterrent”

            Elrond,
            The 1951 convention was never adopted by the U.S. The ’67 protocols suggest that the host country can GRANT entry, can or may, not must.

            As difficult as it sounds, I expect that the US can weather the disapprobation of Canada and the UN.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 8:20 pm #

          This is why it’s hard to talk to people like her. They have their own cult lingo, filled with complex distinctions that don’t make a difference to the People. Thus she can answer in good faith she doesn’t want unlimited immigration – while in reality she wants unlimited refugee immigrants. It’s our duty!, she says. Shouldn’t that be up for public debate, what our duty is? Who elected these arbiters of public morality and funds?

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 8:06 am #

            “This is why it’s hard to talk to people like her. They have their own cult lingo,”

            “O wad some Power the giftie gie us
            To see oursels as ithers see us!”

            (the other national bard)

            “while in reality she wants unlimited refugee immigrants. ”

            I’m hoping at this stage, Janos, that you can name this -ism.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 1:52 pm #

            Legalism. The high priests talk in a technical language that others don’t understand so as to ruin them.

            Who cares if it’s European Law – that’s the whole purpose of Brexit: to escape from these draconian laws implemented by unelected officials. Aren’t you in favor of Democracy?

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 2:28 pm #

            “Who cares if it’s European Law – that’s the whole purpose of Brexit: to escape from these draconian laws implemented by unelected officials. ”

            So the purpose of Brexit was to escape the European law that enabled the UK to send refugees back to the first European country they had reached (primarily Italy or Greece)?

            Really? Don’t try explaining that to a Brexiter. Their brain might turn to magma.

          • outsider January 17, 2018 at 2:52 pm #

            GA,

            As I’m Polish on my father’s side, I’d like to know what the English have against Poles? I did get sick of all the Polish jokes I listened to while growing up, and I’ll bet they’re just as smart as the British.

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 3:48 pm #

            outsider

            I don’t think they have anything against Poles per se. Most people admire them and ignorant people will always hate somebody. And the Polish jokes you heard would be Irish jokes here. In France they’re Belgian jokes.

            The Scots in particular have historically been very welcoming to the Polish – many settled here after WWII. Some of the English, in particular, currently get upset because so many Poles came over, within the framework of the EU, and set up as plumbers, builders etc. (as well as white-collar professions),

            The ‘Polish plumber’ thing became a bit of a meme, primarily because they were damned good, efficient, hard-working and therefore cheaper overall, which raised the standard and put people’s noses out of joint (in Brexit-speak, that translates as ‘coming over here and undercutting us). What can I say?

            It obviously affects existing plumbers if there are suddenly more, very efficient plumbers. But there are 700 million people on your doorstep to buy your stuff and sell you good quality food from not far away, and engineering components (and scientists and medical researchers) can pop back and forward across borders without a million forms needing to be filled in. Swings and roundabouts.

          • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 7:30 pm #

            Outsider,
            You should rather ask Alba about the Irish….

          • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 8:03 pm #

            Not sure what I could tell you, elysianfield (or outsider).

            They’re mostly a friendly bunch and they have lovely accents on the whole. I’m married to one, as you may remember. They have special status here from way before Brexit (since they used to be ‘closely related’), so they can vote in UK elections without having to become British.

            Just thought I’d say something benign as there’s such a lot of anger on this site.

            BUT…they have some very nasty organised criminals, as I mentioned before. And a lot of corruption for a small country. Nobody’s perfect.

            In the film ‘Veronica Guerin’ that I mentioned before (true story of a crime reporter murdered by drug barons) there’s a song included in the sound track called ‘The Fields of Athenry’. The director heard a young traveller/busker of about 8 or 9 belting it out on the street. He had no recording equipment with him but he sent someone back a couple of times to find him and eventually he found the boy and recorded him. His name’s on the soundtrack.

            Someone posted on YouTube that the wee fella grew into a drug-user and a couple of his brothers are already dead. So it’s as complicated a country as anywhere else and he and his family were all as white as snow.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 5:32 pm #

        Ah, the Refugee Scam. The whole world is a shithole so we’d have to take all of them. And of course, we’re responsible for them not being advanced or peaceful – even though they never were for the most part. Certainly the Negroes never had anything.

        The smartest Negroes and Indians are coming to the West. Their own lands desperately need them. We can’t let them be this selfish. We must make them be good and do the right thing by sending them back and not letting any more come here.

  59. volodya January 16, 2018 at 1:36 pm #

    The anti-racism of the Left is phony-baloney. Especially on college campuses the obscenely privileged could give a damn about the downtrodden. It’s all an act, it’s all a toxic stew of look-at-me, look-at-me, as they jockey for money and power and influence.

    Along with the racism lot of nonsense has been written about incipient fascism. Never mind giving some heed to historical fact and circumstance, hurling out the F word gives the hurler an air of great intellectual heft and moral authority. It doesn’t register among the councils of the greatly learned that it’s a simple fact that as soon as ordinary folk have the temerity to look out for their own interests they’re accused of fascism. Passing strange, no?

    But if there’s any fascistic leaning, it’s not among the multitude in the American middle, it’s actually found along the coasts in the leafy green bastions of – cough – education, but with nothing of the demonic, demagogic bite of 20th century practitioners. No, this is a sniveling authoritarian ninny-ism that I expect history will give the back of the hand to soon enough. It may still have some life within American borders but the snowflake contingent won’t come out of their first encounters intact with the Xi Jinpings and Vladimir Putins of the world, not to mention the re-grouped remnants of truly shitty organizations like ISIS.

    Too bad the Lefties from the old days, the guys that went hand-to-hand with fascists in 1930s head-busting street battles, aren’t around anymore.

  60. Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 2:13 pm #

    Pat Buchanan as ordered by Elrond. But note, he doesn’t say that only Whites are good (nor have I ever said that), just that does have to be a common culture, and this is historically a White or Western Culture. And that if immigrants keep swarming in at this rate, then assimilation is impossible. Now I think race is critical and many groups cannot or will not ever assimilate. Pat doesn’t say that, so he may not be an racist like I am, certainly not an overt one. Maybe he’s just being political and keeping his cards close to his vest? Perhaps. Who can say? He’s certainly not ashamed of our heritage, and never said all cultures are equal. But there’s nothing overt in any of that. The Jury is still out. He does drop a few good quotes in this piece, showing that even fairly recently, White racism was part and parcel of common American Culture and Politics. So if he wants to go back to that, he may well be a racist. Possible point for Elrond. But Elrond also said that racism was always against the American way. Point deleted if he is correct. And if he is incorrect, the point is valid anent Buchanan, but one of his chief premises is now shown to be incorrect – which it most certainly is. JS

    Trump: In Immigration Debate, Race Matters

    Pat Buchanan, American Renaissance, January 16, 2018

    Buchanan: “Are we on the Yellow Brick Road to the new Utopia—or on the path to national suicide?”

    President Trump “said things which were hate-filled, vile and racist. … I cannot believe … any president has ever spoken the words that I … heard our president speak yesterday.”

    So wailed Sen. Dick Durbin after departing the White House.

    And what caused the minority leader to almost faint dead away?

    Trump called Haiti a “s—hole country,” said Durbin, and then asked why we don’t have more immigrants from neat places “like Norway.”

    With that, there erupted one of the great media firestorms of the Trump era. On Martin Luther King Day, it was still blazing.

    Trump concedes he may have disparaged Haiti, which, at last check, was not listed among “Best Places to Live” in the Western Hemisphere. Yet Trump insists he did not demean the Haitian people.

    Still, by contrasting Norway as a desirable source of immigrants, as opposed to Haiti, El Salvador and Africa, Trump tabled a question that is roiling the West, the answer to which will decide its fate.

    Trump is saying with words, as he has with policies, that in taking in a million people a year, race, religion and national origin matter, if we are to preserve our national unity and national character.

    Moreover, on deciding who comes, and who does not, Americans have the sovereign right to discriminate in favor of some continents, countries and cultures, and against others.

    Moreover, in stating his own preferences, Trump is in a tradition as old as the Republic.

    The original Colonies did not want Catholics here. Ben Franklin feared Pennsylvania was being overrun by stupid Germans:

    Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

    Just as anti-immigrant parties have arisen in Europe to stem the flood of refugees from the Mideast and Africa, an American Party (“Know-Nothings”) was formed to halt the surge of Irish immigrants during the Potato Famine of 1845-1849.

    Lincoln wanted slaves repatriated to Africa. In the 19th and 20th centuries, we had Chinese and Japanese exclusion acts.

    “Californians have properly objected” to Japanese migrants, said V.P. nominee FDR “on the sound basic ground that … the mingling of Asiatic blood with European or American blood produces, in nine cases out of ten, the most unfortunate results.”

    After the Great Migration of Italians, Poles, Jews and East Europeans, from 1890 to 1920, the Immigration Act of 1925 established quotas based on the national origins of the American people in 1890, thus favoring Brits, Scots-Irish, Irish and Germans.

    Civil rights leader A. Philip Randolph, a major figure in Dr. King’s March on Washington, said of the Harding-Coolidge restrictive quotas:

    “We favor reducing immigration to nothing … shutting out the Germans … Italians … Hindus … Chinese and even the Negroes from the West Indies. The country is suffering from immigration indigestion.”

    The Senate floor leader of the 1965 Immigration Act addressed what were then regarded as valid concerns about the future racial and ethnic composition of the country. Sen. Edward Kennedy pledged:

    “Our cities win not be flooded with a million immigrants annually … the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset. … S. 500 will not inundate America with immigrants from … the most populated and economically deprived nations of Africa and Asia.”

    What Kennedy assured America would not happen, did happen.

    Today, issues of immigration and race are tearing countries and continents apart. There are anti-immigrant parties in every nation in Europe. Turkey is being bribed to keep Syrian refugees out of Europe.

    Boatloads of Africans from Libya are being turned back in the Med. After building a wall to keep them out, Bibi Netanyahu has told “illegal aliens” from Africa: Get out of Israel by March, or go to jail.

    Angela Merkel’s Party may have suffered irreparable damage when she let a million Mideast refugees in. The larger concentrations of Arabs, Africans and Turks in Britain, France and Germany are not assimilating. Central European nations are sealing borders.

    Europe fears a future in which the continent, with its shrinking numbers of native-born, is swamped by peoples from the Third World.

    Yet the future alarmed Europeans are resisting is a future U.S. elites have embraced. Among the reasons, endless mass migration here means the demographic death of the GOP.

    In U.S. presidential elections, persons of color whose roots are in Asia, Africa and Latin America vote 4-1 Democratic, and against the candidates favored by American’s vanishing white majority. Not for the first time, liberal ideology comports precisely with liberal interests.

    Mass immigration means an America in 2050 with no core majority, made up of minorities of every race, color, religion and culture on earth, a continent-wide replica of the wonderful diversity we see today in the U.N. General Assembly.

    Such a country has never existed before. Are we on the Yellow Brick Road to the new Utopia—or on the path to national suicide?

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    • outsider January 16, 2018 at 2:40 pm #

      Janos,

      I read Pat’s fine article earlier today. And it’s tragic that, when he ran against GHWB in ’92, the GOP stuck with NWO George. What a different country we would be today if a powerful conservative intellectual like Pat had become potus. Maybe, at his age, he wouldn’t take the job, but Trump needs a man of Buchanan’s stature and common sense in the WH as a top advisor.

      Last night on Tucker Carlson’s show, they brought out some old tapes of democrats calling other countries bad names. One of Dick Durbin’s comments was prominently featured, although I neglected to write down what he said, but the tape should be available on Fox. Trump’s only mistake was in using the word ‘shit.’

      • thwack January 16, 2018 at 3:17 pm #

        The American people are pissed off, and Trump is just channeling our anger.

        So maybe the ultimate goal of the system is to fill the country with so many immigrants that it dilutes whats left of our common culture so much, that we can never form up like Vultron and tear this corrupt system down?

        • capt spaulding January 16, 2018 at 3:28 pm #

          VOltron. Just sayin’.

          • thwack January 16, 2018 at 4:03 pm #

            nobody can resist a negro spelling error

      • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 5:18 pm #

        He should have been President but he tried too late, and missed the tide. His Third Party attempt was energized – until he picked a Black woman as his VP, a blatantly PC stunt unworthy of him. Obviously, White racists lost faith in him as did the more canny civic nationalists. I mean no one is going to maintain Western Culture but the people who gave birth to it. If they’re not interested, no one else will be either.

  61. pequiste January 16, 2018 at 2:16 pm #

    And then there is the issue of today’s daily double of Racer and Celebrity Perve contestant all-in-one!

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/seal-accused-of-sexual-battery-after-calling-out-oprah/ar-AAuLSul?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

    . Seal was married to Media tramp Heidi Klum and can’t seem to get enough white p*ssy.

    • thwack January 16, 2018 at 2:40 pm #

      you mad bro?

  62. volodya January 16, 2018 at 3:25 pm #

    outsider,

    I wonder if the Democrats haven’t got corresponding problems of their own. Up to the last little while when they regained a bit of lost ground, they lost about a thousand elected positions in state and federal legislatures with about 2/3 of state houses and governorships in Republican hands.

    But you’re right about the fecklessness of Republican Party. To my knowledge they haven’t explained why the ordinary worker should vote Republican if all they spout are pieties about principled conservatism that, as sure as we sit here, is all designed to impoverish the average voter. Should the Midwestern voter be happy to see the economic mainstay of his home-town up-sticks to Mexico?

    And why exactly should the white working class fella, from a class of people that forms the backbone of the US military, from a down-at-heels trailer park, risk life and limb in the service of a country that works day and night against his personal interests?

    The Republicans haven’t explained any of this. For that matter, neither have the Democrats. The two parties are pretty much indistinguishable in their enrich-the-rich policies.

    • capt spaulding January 16, 2018 at 3:30 pm #

      You got it, volodya. While Republicans & Democrats are tearing each other to pieces, the Koch brothers & their ilk are scooping in the money.

      • ozone January 16, 2018 at 6:11 pm #

        Keeerekt, youse guys,
        Tangential to that, down here in the gutter, us lumpies are tearing each other apart… over *what* exactly? What people want to do with their privates and what amount of melanin your skin contains? Who bleats out these grievances and who benefits from this hate and division?

        I still contend that all this shit is just what you’re implying: the result of the worship of Mammon that is now the American “culture”. (Maybe it always was.)

        • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 6:20 pm #

          You’re so cut off from nature. Two species that depend on the same resources cannot co-exist in the same place. Blacks and White will get along no better than chimpmunks and squirrels.

          Only a tyrannical government can keep order and force them to associate together. Elrond loves this scenario and you don’t I assume, yet you still insist that the associate should happen. You are confused. Elrond isn’t. Nor am I. We have clear and conflicting, yet coherent philosophies. You are wavering in the middle, still undefined.

          • ozone January 17, 2018 at 12:11 pm #

            You, You, You, You.
            Stop telling me what I think and who I am. It’s a great provocative tactic designed to winkle out information in the mold of, “anything you say will be used against you”. But it’s ugly, and soon you’ll be believing your own bullshit (if you don’t already).
            What’s it like to be a professional asshole?
            Show us those nondescript photos from your “vacation” again to reinforce your supposed civilian status. We’ve known for a long time who you work for; but in what capacity? Or is it one of those, “I could tell ya but then I’d have to kill ya. H’yuk, h’yuk.”
            Did YOU think we had forgotten?

            “Why Ringo… you ain’t no daisy a’tall.”

          • ozone January 17, 2018 at 12:23 pm #

            Btw, I don’t respond to your stupid posts because they are pure crap, designed to provoke, divert and divide. That’s not in any way useful. I seriously don’t think you’ll find that out until it’s far too late. Try pulling that in-your-face stuff out here in the real world and see what it gets you. Bullies and sadists get found out real quick.

            “I’m only trying to have a sincere debate”, he whined.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 1:28 pm #

            You simply have no answer to my objections, so you go on the attack. Radically different peoples aren’t going to get along and don’t belong in the same space. It’s axiomatic. That is, without a tyrannical government enforcing “peace”.

            I talk about the survival of the White Race – that’s crap? If that’s not important, nothing is. Caring about your group is being Natural. You don’t and aren’t.

            You also tell me who I am: A spook or plant. You have no proof – it’s just what you want to believe. Nothing I’ve ever said to you is as offensive as that. Physician, heal thyself.

            Anarchists get purged. You can take that to the bank. It may well save your life.

          • ozone January 17, 2018 at 4:37 pm #

            YOU did it again.
            It’s no wonder I always feel a bit soiled after any exchange with YOU. YOU don’t hold any “positions” or “opinions” that YOU aren’t told to hold, YOU psy-op prick.
            That is all Private; beck to ze barracks…
            Oh, we found YOU out long ago when the server locations were discoverable; they no longer are and YOU’ve changed YOUr screen name several times since then, but YOUr syntax and reprehensible whinings are quite unique.

  63. janet January 16, 2018 at 3:28 pm #

    “As Chesterton predicted…” –janos

    Ray Kurzweil has made 108 predictions. 102 out of the 108 were entirely correct. Another 3 partially correct, 2 look like they are about 10 years off, and 1, which was tongue in cheek anyway, was just wrong.

  64. janet January 16, 2018 at 3:44 pm #

    Bannon warned that the special counsel investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia would focus on money laundering. Now Mueller has subpoenaed Bannon and Trump, though not in a jacuzzi, is in hot water.

    Trump is meeting with the president of Kazakhstan (is that a shithole country?) about the money laundered through Trump’s SoHo Hotel. They need to get their stories straight because they are shaking from the vibrations of the heavy steps of Mueller coming up behind them.

    • SpeedyBB January 19, 2018 at 3:32 am #

      Kazakhstan is a neat country but it was the site of multiple Soviet atmospheric nuclear detonations. So you can assume that the people who greet you will do so radiantly and you will also have a sparkling time there.

      (Never saw so many Korean-looking faces in my life. That’s where Stalin moved them, in his sinister ethnic chess game.)

  65. FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 3:50 pm #

    Harry Potter and the Fourth Crusade

    My shock from getting acquainted with Harry Potter films is due to the fact that occult fantasy turned out to be a great work of cinematography (and presumably literature), warning humanity about the very danger that I was about to tell in my theory of the World Colored Projects, but postponed this sad necessity, fearing that some details of this theory will drive some of my readers mad.

    And having been confronted with the fact that some powerful organization – and it is crystal clear to me that if Shakespeare could still be Shakespeare, then Mrs. Rowling, could not independently raise such a layer of human history and isolate the most vile secret of the Western European civilization, which during the Great Indiction was thoroughly hidden by its best and brightest minds – undertakes a multi-billion project, putting in front of itself about the same goals as me.

    Astonishingly, there are no traces of the existence of such an organization anywhere else, except, perhaps, for awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Barack Obama and the Abel Prize to John Nash.

    Moreover from Potteriana follows that generally speaking, the above warning is addressed to the next generation, in the hope that today’s children, growing up at a critical moment, will remember their children’s books and movies.

    Well, I, refraining from too many details, all the same will tell you about this secret.

    The Fourth Crusade began quite a long time ago, perhaps even during the life of Christ with 32 pieces of silver, but the first specifically military manifestation of this was the victory in 974 of Otto II (The Red) over the Orthodox King of the Danes Harald Bluetooth.

    With the Danes the Red bastard had to tinker quite a lot and it ended badly for him: in 983 Harald Bluetooth was helped by the Slavs (The Russians) and together they threw the Crusaders out of the Denmark.

    And in 988 the baptism of Russia radically changed the situation and even the St. Brice’s Day massacre in 1002 could not stop the formation of the Knud Grand Empire – the grandson of Harold Bluetooth and the son of Sweyn Forkbeard, who was poisoned by the monk of the Edmundsbury monastery after Sweyn was sanctified in the holiness of St. Edmund.

    On the horizon loomed the Orthodox Viking Empire, but the betrayal of the Norman Duke Robert the Devil led to the fact that in 1054 Christianity split, and in 1066 the bastard of Robert the Devil Wilhelm with the help of Pope Alexander II conquered the Orthodox England.

    Well, then it went: in 1147, the Reichstag in Frankfurt declares the Orthodox Slavs (The Russians) and Vikings pagans, and the “holy” Bernard of Clairvaux, after the invention of racial anti-Semitism in connection with the election of Anacletus II blesses the genocide of Orthodox Slavs (The Russians) during the Northern Crusade.

    Thus, as early as the 12th century, in the brains of the leaders of the Black Project combined the Slavs and Jews as an object of extermination for religious reasons, and in 1159 the conquered Denmark becomes the main base of the Fourth Crusade and Gauleiter of Denmark, Bishop Absalon destroys the Orthodox city of Vineta and the town in the north of Europe begins to carry out the genocide of Orthodox Slavs(The Russians) and Vikings on the island of Rügen.

    After that, to say that the Crusaders took Constantinople by mistake or that Simon de Montfort went from Croatia to Occitania because he did not want to participate in the assault on Zara, it is possible only for money, and big money.

    And that’s where Harry Potter comes in.

    The fact is that Albigensianism was declared the Manichean heresy by those who burned Orthodox Christians at the stake for the assertion of Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary or that the head of the Christian Church is Jesus Christ, and in their spare time from the main work they stormed Constantinople and arranged shithouses in the altars of Orthodox churches.

    At the same time, the Albigensians considered themselves Christians, and from Manichaeism they had only a subdivision of people into the perfecti and profane. But we know from Blessed Augustine that the Manichaeans considered the ability to be a perfecti gift from above, incompatible with murder, and sought out such people from infancy, including the Blessed Augustine himself.

    But the Templars, whose statutes were written by the “holy” Bernard of Clairvaux, considered themselves to be people of the Spirit, killing right and left, and they considered their ability to be perfecti as the result of their aristocratic origin.

    Especially it should be noted that during the Crusades in the Middle East, it was the Templars who very closely communicated with the Israelites and took from them that was later described in the Russian film “Eternal Call” as Dulles’ plan.

    And aristocratic origin is known to be passed from one generation of aristocrats to another during sexual intercourse, and this makes one remember that the main conflict in Harry Potter is a conflict between those who believe that Magic abilities can be developed at Hogwarts only if they are a consequence of a good sexually transmitted origin and those who accepts to Hogwarts dirty-nosed children born from the marriage of Mages with Muggles.

    And this is really important, because within the framework of European esoteric the gifts of God are given to anyone and the Holy Spirit breathes wherever it wants, but the abilities and talents of a demonic nature are transmitted only through sexual intercourse.

    Therefore, the followers of Voland de Mort do not need the half-bloods, because their magical abilities can turn out to be the Gift of God, and it is from this important detail, which very few people get, comes such phenomena as Nazism, which again raised its ugly head, on the pages of Harry Potter, but also in the ruins of the Donetsk International Airport, as well as in the Valley of the Dead and in Dura Europus, where it actually appeared almost 2,000 years ago.

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    • FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 4:02 pm #

      Did you get all of that or should I try it again?

      By the way – a typo, and a BIG one – the phrase “Templars who very closely communicated with the Israelites” should read as “Templars who very closely communicated with the Ishmaelites“.

      • Sean Coleman January 16, 2018 at 4:38 pm #

        I got lost at ‘Great Indiction’. Can you summarize? What is the great secret?

        I never watched a Potter film. The last two films I watched were Dirty Rotten Scoundrels and Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, which were both good (saw them both twice).

        I used to visit the cinema once every two years or so but that changed after going to see film in Dublin thirty years ago. It was American and I didn’t understand one word. I needed subtitles. I looked around in amazement at the audience and they had no problems.

        I read the first two HP books (in Latin). All right for eight-year-olds. Rowling is leadenly pc. I much preferred Tom Brown’s Schooldays as a child. I understand more grown-ups than children read them.

        • FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 6:19 pm #

          GREAT INDICTION – a great cosmic cycle, lasting 532 years, with the help of which the Roman monk Dionysius calculated in the VI century the exact year of the birth of Christ.

          The length of the cycle is the result of multiplying the “circle of the moon”, which is 19 years, and the “circle of the sun” equal to 28 years.

          After 19 years, the phases of the moon again fall on the same numbers of the month. At the end of the “circle of the sun” the numbers of the month begin to coincide with the days of the week.

          Every 532 years, the days of the week and the lunar phases correspond to the same numbers of the month, and this means that the cosmophysical situation that influences the terrestrial processes also repeats.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_calendar

      • Sean Coleman January 16, 2018 at 4:44 pm #

        As for the Templars then that is Dan Brown and the DV Code. I actually read this as I wanted something that would be certain to have a Polish translation. This takes political correctness to a new level but it is a must for anyone with an obsessive interest in the Louvre’s security system. It has a ‘hulking’ albino monk who goes around killing people for the Faith. He is in Opus Dei, although that organization has no monks. If you are interested a widespread new-age belief in dark RC forces, and in Opus Dei, led to the collapse of the Reynolds government in Ireland about thirty years ago. At least that is what Rory Connor of IrishSalem argues, and I find it persuasive. But as for the DV Code it contains one of the worst lines I have ever read: “He gave a dire sigh.” It is also one of the worst books, much worse than HP.

        • FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 6:24 pm #

          The Knights Templar are the guys who invented modern banking and modern capitalism – not the Jews, contrary to popular beliefs.

          DV Code from the Christian and historical point of view is a bunch of crap.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 8:29 pm #

            Oh no, the Romans had it too. It might have even arisen in earlier Middle Eastern Civilizations. In any case, the Jews were very involved in the Roman system, though not to the extent of complete takeover as they have today in the Anglo sphere.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 5:27 pm #

      Shall we judge Orthodoxy by Rasputin, Vlad Drakul, and the Order of Drakul?

      Saint Bernard was unspeakably Holy. You will be judged for those quotation marks. Is he responsible for everything the Order ever did or everything every Monk within the Order did? He formed the Order to fight the Muslims and free the Holy Land. And in was very successful in these objectives, at least for a time.

      Remember what DeMolay said upon the pyre: Before the year is out, both King and Pope will join me before the Heavenly Tribunal to face true Justice. And so it was.

      • FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 6:25 pm #

        Saint Bernard was unspeakably Holy

        Still fucking is. For the Nazis.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 7:22 pm #

          He was a Catholic, not a Nazi. You are utterly mad.

          • FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 8:09 pm #

            He was a kind of catholic who forced Saint Alexander Nevsky, when he was facing a choice to submit to the Order and accept Catholicism or submit to Tatar-Mongol Golden Horde, to choose the Tatars:

            “Since the Horde only wanted our tribute – the money, and the Order was going after our very soul”

          • Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 8:23 pm #

            Orthodoxy acted the same way later – to the very same kind of racial Mongols and Siberians. I’m not comfortable with forced cultural conversions, a mixing of religion and imperialism whoever is doing it.

  66. janet January 16, 2018 at 4:14 pm #

    Bannon warned that the special counsel investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia would focus on money laundering. Now Mueller has subpoenaed Bannon and Trump, though not in a jacuzzi, is in hot water.

    Trump is meeting with the president of Kazakhstan (is that a shithole country?) about the money laundered through Trump’s SoHo Hotel. They need to get their stories straight because they are shaking from the vibrations of the heavy steps of Mueller coming up behind them.

    • FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 4:32 pm #

      Heavy steps and heavy breathing of Field Marshal Mueller, running from the subpoena regarding his role in Uranium One.

      Who gets whom first? Bets are being accepted…

      • janet January 16, 2018 at 5:11 pm #

        Mr. PottyMouth does not have a DOJ special counsel authorized to go after the authorized special counsel. Too bad, so sad.

        https://www.justice.gov/sco

        • FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 6:04 pm #

          True, indeedy!

          But he does have some heavy fire power with his loyal Marine Corps.

          Could beat the shit out of “What’s the definition of the word “is” is?”

        • outsider January 16, 2018 at 6:32 pm #

          Trump does not have his own special counsel to go after Mueller the traitor because he has an incompetent AG, who is more interested in going after states that have legalized marijuana than he is in going after the Clinton Crime Family. Sessions should have been fired, but Trump might have trouble finding someone competent who will take the job.

          • FincaInTheMountains January 16, 2018 at 6:52 pm #

            May be now going after states that have legalized marijuana is even more important than going after Hillary Clinton.

            Remember, modern strains of marijuana is NOT what it used to be.

  67. Janos Skorenzy January 16, 2018 at 5:52 pm #

    The low prey on the high. Beautiful White girl murdered by chimp like Black girl. Compare the pictures for yo selves.

    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/01/high-school-bully-16-stabs-kills-girl-16-tormented/

    • thwack January 16, 2018 at 9:36 pm #

      drug deal gone bad…

      nothing to see here

  68. Ishabaka January 16, 2018 at 7:56 pm #

    The best thing that could possibly happen to American blacks, is for white people to treat them as adults.

  69. PeteAtomic January 16, 2018 at 8:10 pm #

    I’m not sure if you are aware of Robert Woodson, Mr. Jim, he was the founder of the Woodson Center for neighborhood empowerment.

    http://woodsoncenter.org/team_members/robert-l-woodson-sr/

    His voice is almost totally unrepresented in Black America. He and his center work on non-violent, locally-specialized solutions in urban neighborhoods. They’ve done a lot of good.

    You can see various youtube interviews of the man, and his mission. He’s big on self-empowerment, and has remarked that if “every white person was transported out of the US today, how would the lives of Blacks change?”

  70. Pucker January 16, 2018 at 9:12 pm #

    Obama as “Cover”.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c3-FFcCUMGk

    A pharmaceutical company in eastern China has been shut down after it used a water truck to spray more than 3,000 tonnes of waste water on to the streets, according to a Chinese media report.

    The truck was painted like a city cleaning services vehicle and the firm in Rudong county in Jiangsu province used the method to get rid of liquid waste for over a year, Jiangsu TV reported.

    The company, Bairui Biomedical Technology, has also been fined 800,000 yuan (US$124,000), the report said.

    Police and the local authorities caught the company spraying the highly-concentrated waste last week.

    People had reported a strong smell after the truck had been spraying.

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  71. thwack January 16, 2018 at 9:41 pm #

    You can’t call a country a shithole.

    But you can drop as many bombs on it as you want.

    just sayin

    • BackRowHeckler January 17, 2018 at 12:45 am #

      What bombs?

      • janet January 17, 2018 at 3:05 am #

        brh, the United States has killed more than 20 Million People in 37 “Victim Nations” since World War II. We love bombing other countries.

        https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051

        • BackRowHeckler January 17, 2018 at 3:11 am #

          So?

          • janet January 17, 2018 at 3:33 am #

            Bombs were used. You asked “What bombs?”

            The white male controlled US military is much more violent than any Muslim nation… and Pakistan does have nuclear weapons… they just aren’t threatening to use them like Trump is.

            Nuclear war is much more of a threat than Race-O-Rama. Killing 20 million people… isn’t that more than the Holocaust killed?

          • janet January 17, 2018 at 3:40 am #

            How many people have the new Black panthers killed? Zero. How many people have Black Lives Matter killed? Zero.
            How many people died because of taking a knee? Zero.

            Yet the topic of conversation here is always anti-Black, anti-Jew, anti-diversity, anti-immigrant, anti-women, anti-transgender, etc. which is a diversion from the murder of millions.

            To add insult to injury, after taking their resources and impoverishing their people (those who are not murdered outright), the victim nations are then called “shitholes”

    • capt spaulding January 17, 2018 at 8:49 am #

      I just read that until recently, if you googled “Trump” and “shithole” at the same time, all you got were hotel revues.

  72. BackRowHeckler January 17, 2018 at 12:41 am #

    Flags are in the news here in CT. In Middletown some crazy kid ran around the parking lot of his High School with a Confederate flag unfurled. Naturally, it made it onto Face Book. The state had a collective nervous breakdown. What an outrage! Calls were made to arrest the offender. (He wasn’t arrested) Diversity pimps sprung into action all over the state! Statements condemning both the student and the flag itself were issued from numerous school administrators. The upshot seems to be hosting more ‘sensitivity’ and ‘diversity’ re education in local high schools, and all the way down to the grade school level. i notice today the story had faded from the news.

    the other flag story is that our distinguished Governor, Dannel P Malloy, hoisted the Haitian flag over the Governors mansion in protest of President Trumps remarks about Haiti. In a case of life imitating art, when a caller into a local talk show reminded the audience that in the Haitian revolt blacks massacred every white person in the country to the last man — reminiscent to a similar situation in ‘Camp of Saints’ — the caller was quickly condemned as an obvious racist and Trump supporter, and abruptly shut off.

    brh

    • FincaInTheMountains January 17, 2018 at 2:50 am #

      Just imagine millions of Millennials high on potent strains of legal marijuana and incited by timely posts on Social Media facebooks and twitters, and you have a recipe for zombie apocalypse ala Stephen King “The Cell” – any time you want!

      • BackRowHeckler January 17, 2018 at 3:08 am #

        We already have that here; its called wilding.

        the media call this ferocious mob ‘Youths’ and ‘Teenagers’

        Its a mighty force, destructive and terrifying at the same time. You usually see this phenonema in our larger urban areas.

        brh

        • outsider January 17, 2018 at 7:30 am #

          Thank god the Supreme Court followed the Constitution for once and declared that flag burning is protected speech. I assume that this applies to the Confederate flag, but in today’s PC environment I’m not so sure. But, since the boy was on school property, what he did was illegal if it was against school policy.

          As for the governor flying the Haitian flag on government property, even if that is legal, it sure sounds traitorous. How many whites even know of that brutal Haitian slave revolt, in which all whites who didn’t leave in time were hacked to death with machetes? 1% maybe? And Haiti wouldn’t be nearly the shithole it is today if the white landowners were allowed to stay and remain in charge. Just look at the next door Dominican Republic, founded by a white majority, to see the difference. Whites are their own willing executioners.

  73. FincaInTheMountains January 17, 2018 at 3:17 am #

    For those who carefully read my post about Harry Potter, it should be clear how radically the presented picture of the History differs from what can be found in the history textbooks written by people on the basis of sources recorded by the official historiographers of the Fourth Crusade, such as Saxo Grammaticus.

    At the same time, I want to draw your attention that the facts cited by him are not subject to revision, only the method of their assembling into a single whole has been changed, that is, the perception of history, which in this case is the assertion that Orthodoxy traces its genealogy from Christ and his apostles.

    But Catholicism was formed as a result of the Great Schism, which itself was not so much the result of the Filioque, but as a result of the efforts of the Black Project undertaken over several centuries.

  74. janet January 17, 2018 at 3:30 am #

    Trump is preparing to respond to cyberattacks with nuclear weapons. Russia, China, and North Korea would be the likely targets for a nuclear first strike. Trump’s nuclear strikes could quickly start massive, civilization ending nuclear warfare.

    Making nuclear war more likely is the general theme of Trump’s Nuclear Posture Review. The Trump Administration has spent its entire time in power easing restrictions on the military, and giving commanders more and more leeway on their operations, including nuclear weapon policy.

    The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists Doomsday Clock is an internationally recognized design that conveys how close we are to destroying our civilization with dangerous technologies of our own making. First and foremost among these are nuclear weapons. The scientists now state: “It is two and a half minutes to midnight.”

    https://thebulletin.org/sites/default/files/Final%202017%20Clock%20Statement.pdf

    • outsider January 17, 2018 at 7:43 am #

      Time to take the tin foil hat off, Janet. Trump’s not about to end civilization as we know it, and, even if he was the mad man you say, he cannot just push the Red Button under his desk. The generals would not follow such an illegal order which would end their own lives.

      Sometimes I think you Russia-hating Hillary-loving white Libs (are you white?) are secretly hoping for your own demise.

      • thwack January 17, 2018 at 8:37 am #

        Sometimes I think you Russia-hating Hillary-loving white Libs (are you white?) are secretly hoping for your own demise.

        *********************

        Some people are NOT so secret about it:

        This is a debate between Jordan Peterson and David Benatar.

        Benatar wrote a book making the case for antinatalism and Peterson
        takes the counter position:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smHoVsnxzLo

        Benatar frames his antinatalism as a case for “not being born.” This
        may sound like an academic exercise for pencil neck pointy heads with
        PHDs… but it also serves as the philosophical foundation for things
        like abortion, euthanasia and Darwinism.

        The best example of natalism I can think of is probably the Catholic
        church which says all human existence has an intrinsic value
        irrespective of suffering and/or practical improvements in comfort.

        I judged this debate a draw; but only because the moderator refused to
        step in from time to time and force these two to directly answer each
        others questions.

        Lots of horses died of starvation from the giant “straw men” they
        built for each other to fight.

        Now:

        If,

        IF?

        Benatar is a Jew, then we are probably witnessing a continuation of
        2000 years of Christian/Jew struggle for the soul of mankind. The only
        reason I bring this up is to simplify the complex arguments and
        language they sometimes use; because these guys are two top shelf
        PHDs, and their arguments and language can get very sophisticated and
        esoteric at times….

        so don’t let it distract you.

        Finally, if you find these kinds of existential discussion disturbing?

        Don’t listen to it.

        • outsider January 17, 2018 at 9:12 am #

          Is it true that only whites and East Asian countries have enough sense to limit their numbers? Muslims and Africans don’t seem to, as they continue to have many children regardless of insufficient local resources to accommodate them. Thus another major reason for unchecked migration into First World countries. Muslims and Africans will take over Europe by outbreeding them.

          And I think they are right. White millennials don’t seem to be in any hurry to get married and have children. Thus the white population is not even replacing itself. And I can’t blame them. Looking 20-30 years out, those with half a brain can see that their children will be struggling as whites become a minority. So why not forget having kids and live for today as there is no better tomorrow?

          • thwack January 17, 2018 at 9:20 am #

            those with half a brain can see that their children will be struggling as whites become a minority.

            **********************

            Jews are a minority, are they “struggling?”

          • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 2:33 pm #

            They are a head always looking for a body.

  75. FincaInTheMountains January 17, 2018 at 9:17 am #

    What is the great secret? == Sean Coleman

    According to the traditional picture of the world, Europe is a full-fledged heir of the Roman Empire through Christianity, carefully disseminated by the popes of Rome, and the adoption of Roman law by the German peoples.

    In short, the Europeans took everything they could, from their predecessors and went to develop it ideologically, fighting off pagan attacks, carrying development through the Crusades.

    Then the Europeans developed so much that they could explore the rest of the world and subdue it, if not by military force, then by their own good example. The conquered world gained Progress, Freedom and Democracy from the good hands of the White Massah.

    And Russia? And what about it, Orthodoxy, which for some reason broke away from the Catholic Church, long time was a wild country up to Peter I and Catherine II, and then again gone wild and called itself USSR – but in the end accepted its mistakes and rushed back to Progress, Freedom and Democracy.

    In fact, it’s been a thousand years since the Western Europe sold its Christianity for 32 pieces of silver.

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  76. Sean Coleman January 17, 2018 at 10:54 am #

    Peter Hitchens makes a similar argument to Mr Kunstler, that a strong national culture is essential in overcoming racial difference.

    In his book The Cameron Delusion he argues that the word ‘racialism’ in Britain was replaced by the new word ‘racism’, probably of US origin at the time of the Black Panthers. Racialism he dismisses as untrue (in that there are no differences between the races) and without hope, in that a thousand years of living together would not lead to peace and reconciliation.

    As for the first point I doubt it, but from my own point of view it is to an extent irrelevant if different races are biologically or in any other way different. More important would be that immigrants would be alien and do not belong. Those with a similar appearance would be assimilated over time, once even the longest memories had been extinguished, but the others would always be reminded of their separateness by their appearance. Interbreeding (or preferably inter-marrying) would be the only solution (for those who seek harmony) both within countries and between them. In other words, a homogenous world where everyone looked the same, and presumably spoke one language. For me personally this is perhaps the very worst of all outcomes although others would welcome it and not see what the fuss was about. This probably mostly a matter of psychological difference, extraversion versus introversion, and I will leave that to one side.

    As for his second point, that cultural unification is the world’s only hope, that still doesn’t make it necessarily desirable in itself or, if desired, necessarily feasible. Of course, the ‘culturalists’ can simply ask (as John Hume asked the extremists in Northern Ireland), “What is your alternative?” Both Hitchens and Kunstler mention Thomas Sowell and I note that Sowell has praised Flaherty’s work, in that Flaherty’s work shows that the problem of black on white violence and crime is wider and more serious than Sowell himself had realised.

    Racism, Hitchens argues, has a very different meaning from racialism, which is vague and, like Fascism (according to Orwell), can be applied to anyone whose views you don’t accept. Just as a member of IS (or whatever they now call themselves) is necessarily a Muslim, so is a racialist a racist, but not vice-versa. Opponents of the stupidity of mass immigration can therefore be cowed by called them racists. The clowns in the American ‘Resistance’ and its worse-than-useless (just-like-everywhere-else-but-worse-still) media can also apply the term at will. He reminds the reader of the Macpherson Report into the role of the Metropolitan Police in the aftermath of the racially motivated murder of schoolboy Stephen Lawrence in South-East London, which actually found no instance of any racist behaviour by any individual yet still found the force guilty of ‘institutional racism’, which I think led to further major legislation.

    He notes an alternative spelling for racist (rascist, although I have never noticed it) with its similarity to Fascist. Some years ago, after an Islamist attempt to blow up an airliner, President Bush and left-wing Scottish politician John Reid both used the word ‘Islamofascist’ (as I recall) to describe the perpetrators. For the Left fascist is preferable to nazi because it neither contains the word ‘socialist’ nor reminds people of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Hitchens doubts if Geroge W could explain the difference between nazism and fascism or knew the Christian names of either Molotov or Ribbentrop (I don’t know them either).

    Hitchens has in the past used the example of the returned Brazilian Japanese to support his argument that culture is key. On a visit to Japan he saw them as unhappy outcasts, quite unable to assimilate to Japanese culture. They were very pleased when he talked to them about (association) football. I am not all that convinced by the culturalists. I can understand why they would want so much for it to work, to say nothing of the lack of an alternative, but I don’t know if history shows that it does. Bulgaria is, I think, a blend of the original Slavs and a large, conquering Asiatic minority. Take Burundi. Three or four years ago I heard an Irish priest, who had worked there, saying on the radio that the strange thing about the conflict there was the people on both sides were identical, including the language. This caught my ear because I had understood that they were very different physically. Raymond Crotty wrote that the pastoral, martial Tutsis had invaded the country, inhabited by lactose-intolerant Hutus, from the north, from the Sub-Sahara, and conquered it. He described their diet as almost wholly dairy. I heard a Tutsi woman talking about the recent troubles on a Dutch podcast. I think she said there was this and that, differences put aside, and the rest. She also let it slip (and why didn’t they edit it out?) that the Tutsis have an elaborate system of social rules, including whom they can marry (by which the majority Hutus are presumably excluded).

    • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 1:37 pm #

      Yes, make everyone the same and call it diversity! Paraguay fought a war about this: the Diversicrats won and Made Whites marry non-Whites. Those who think it can’t happen are kidding themselves. Of course the very special will be exempt….

      I disagree with the thesis. The strong national culture would have to be one where the Low tear down the High since the Low can’t rise up. And then any such strength is just beastly and a corresponding Tyranny to keep it in line. You can’t unite peoples as different as Blacks and Whites. The only way is to raised up the Blacks so as to blend Whites out.

      • Ivehadenough January 17, 2018 at 3:27 pm #

        Janos, I love your articles and bantering with these idiots. To your point has ANYONE noticed all the recent (circa 2017 – 2018) television commercials featuring mixed (i.e. black/white) couples as the main family unit? It’s ridiculous and almost always have a white male with a black female. It’s begun and the liberal media is pushing it no holds barred. Keep up the good fight!

        • thwack January 17, 2018 at 4:36 pm #

          “It’s ridiculous and almost always have a white male with a black female.”

          *****************

          don’t you mean a black male and white female?

          Please wipe some of that foam from your mouth off your screen so you can see what you are typing.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 7:18 pm #

          Tanks! (not plastics).

  77. volodya January 17, 2018 at 10:59 am #

    Black people are their own worst enemies. It’s like Denzel Washington sez, it all starts at home.

    Yeah, I know, I’ve been saying for a while now that the Davos Class well and truly screwed the American worker and Blacks too with the policy of offshoring American factories. The window Black guys had in the 1970s to get into decent paying work shut with every factory that fucked off to some third world shit-hole over the next forty years.

    BUT. There’s a BUT. For example they say that Chicago has the equivalent of a Sandy Hook every couple weeks. And it’s Blacks gunning down Blacks. There ain’t racism at the root of it. This is depravity, Black sourced and nurtured and something Blacks have to account for. If it’s fair to say Whites did this, Whites did that, then it’s just as fair to point the finger at Blacks.

    As far as the lamentable record of Black academic achievement goes, I don’t think it’s too far out on a limb to say that when Black parents start giving a damn the way that Asian and south Asian parents do, then Black kids will start to achieve. Really as simple as that. If it’s a cultural value among Blacks that a Black teen boy reading a book is something less than a man in his own eyes and those of his compadres, then it’s hopeless. If it’s a cultural value among Blacks that to speak mainstream English is acting White, and if acting White is something that a self respecting Black can’t do, then again, it’s hopeless.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, lynchings etc etc. But that was then. And the clock keeps ticking and this shit is starting to sound like an excuse.

    • capt spaulding January 17, 2018 at 11:11 am #

      I think you’re absolutely right,volodya.

    • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 11:54 am #

      If it’s a cultural value among Blacks that a Black teen boy reading a book is something less than a man in his own eyes and those of his compadres, then it’s hopeless. If it’s a cultural value among Blacks that to speak mainstream English is acting White,..”

      Absolutely correct. Janos take note.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 1:41 pm #

        No, you’re making a false distinction – as if culture is one thing and genes another. Of course it’s cultural – because it’s genetic first. That being said, Blacks could do better and did so in the past before the welfare and rap culture destroyed them and dragged their smart kids down.

        But the two standard deviation gap will remain. Elite Engineering school IQ’s average 150. In Africa, 100. Mulattoes are smarter, but only because of their White genes.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 2:17 pm #

          Does E want to use a bridge designed and built by IQ’s of 100? Or fly in a plane with such pilots or maintained by the same?
          Black Africa limps along based on endless help from White foreigners.

          • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 3:39 pm #

            Janos,
            The enemy of your argument is the bell curve. Sorry.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 7:16 pm #

            How so? Only 13% of American Blacks are at the White average of 100. It peters off almost completely past 115. To do first class work in the professions one needs 130 at least.

            The Bell Curve is my Bible and I’m the Bible answer man. It is my best friend, frend.

          • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 7:39 pm #

            Janos,
            And what of those on the extreme right of the spectrum…should they be made less of because of a vast dysfunction of others? It is easy enough to separate the wheat from the chaff….

    • Sean Coleman January 17, 2018 at 12:03 pm #

      “And it’s Blacks gunning down Blacks. There ain’t racism at the root of it.”

      Colin Flaherty implies that there is more than a bit of that in the mix too (for example the ‘knock-out game’ where black people, male or female, punch a white person to the ground for no reason at all).

      Rather than entering into discussion as to why it happens his main intention is to show that black on white crime exists, is very common and isn’t honestly reported. Either it’s ‘teenagers out of control’ or one-off riots that just nobody saw coming, or there is a schoolchild laid out on the ground after a ‘fight’. He does however argue that all the rhetoric about institutional racism is making matters worse, as are recent attempts to cut down crime figures by not prosecuting.

    • akmofo January 17, 2018 at 1:04 pm #

      Chicago? Compared to what, London, Berlin, Paris?

      Yeah, let’s give them blacks some proper education on horse husbandry and gun powder, dress them up with bicorne hats, and send them off to Moscow to teach the ignorant peasants there about french high culture.

  78. volodya January 17, 2018 at 11:10 am #

    Jim ran face first into institutional racism at the very place that decries that very thing.

    But let’s just say that I’ll bet that Jim’s accusers, you know, the very ones that tell him he’s a low-down racist, are the very worst of the lot, propagating what they supposedly fight against. Racism is their career, they NEED racism because fighting that very thing is their bread and butter. Where would they be without it? They NEED a racial underclass to minister to and speak up for. If it wasn’t there they’d have to invent one. Either that or find another job. There’s whole industries built up around it, government bureaucracies that need it as their reason for existing. Let’s just say that for that reason we’ll be hearing about racism in its various guises for a very long time.

    • thwack January 17, 2018 at 12:02 pm #

      Jim ran face first into institutional racism at the very place that decries that very thing.

      ************
      Not only that,

      but,

      but,

      if these SJWs took Jim’s suggestion and made their

      “primary mission in education to teach proper spoken English”

      their “black charges” would discover that a lot of the SJW’s are PRACTICING racism themselves.

      Now what?

      BTW, Jim’s suggestion is necessary but still insufficient because the key to countering racism (and thats really what the focus should be) is using counter racism LANGUAGE.

      The evidence is clear in the way everybody on this site ducks and dodges me BECAUSE I use it.

      But I ain’t mad at ya; because countering racism is NOT the function of a white person in a system of racism white supremacy.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 2:20 pm #

        I do the same. White Racism is the Truth. We must protect the Truth by any and all means – and the Truth bearing Race.

        Thwack lied about the Black girl murdering the White when he said it was a drug deal gone wrong. It was simple murder, foul murder of a high being by a low, a human by an orc.

        • Ivehadenough January 17, 2018 at 3:38 pm #

          Bingo, it’s ALWAYS the answer for black on white violence of any sort from blacks or liberal whites fools who cannot understand the pot of water they’re standing is heating up to a boil and they need to get out. Last decade.

        • thwack January 17, 2018 at 4:44 pm #

          Thwack lied about the Black girl murdering the White when he said it was a drug deal gone wrong.

          *****************

          OK, I confess I don’t know what happened in that specific situation.

          But,

          every person on this blog has met one or more white people who deserved to be killed because of something THEY DID?

          Tell the truth and shame the devil.

      • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 3:44 pm #

        “The evidence is clear in the way everybody on this site ducks and dodges me BECAUSE I use it.”

        Thwack,
        No, that is not the case. Your attempts at the idiom ring false.

        • thwack January 17, 2018 at 4:51 pm #

          You’re the worst offender.

          1. Always wants to talk about race.

          2. Won’t admit or deny being a white person.

          How many people here would engage in a discussion of sex or gender with a person who refused to reveal if they are male of female?

          Whatever Elysianfield is, must be a weak version of it.

          • elysianfield January 17, 2018 at 7:44 pm #

            Thwack,
            I don’t discuss race, so much as black culture. You know this. But you are otherwise correct, I am weak, and soft, and old…stupid, too. Really….

    • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 1:44 pm #

      Yes, exactly. It CAN’T change now – too much money, jobs, egos, lives, and political platforms won’t let it. Whom does the Grail serve? Which group do Democrats like better: those who need them and keep them in power or the Whites and Asians who work and pay their taxes?

      • outsider January 17, 2018 at 3:08 pm #

        They like the first group better, but couldn’t survive without the second, which they consider deplorables (the white ones anyway).

  79. K-Dog January 17, 2018 at 11:27 am #

    The Rohingya Crisis

    “Hundreds of thousands of Rohingya, a Muslim ethnic minority group, are fleeing persecution in Myanmar’s western Rakhine State, fueling a historic migration crisis. “

    https://www.zakat.org/en/save-the-rohingya/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_o3r-rPf2AIVhmF-Ch1KsQB_EAAYAyAAEgK0zfD_BwE

    https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/rohingya-crisis?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_o3r-rPf2AIVhmF-Ch1KsQB_EAAYBCAAEgLwvPD_BwE

    A million are on the border in Bangladesh camps and Bangladesh wants them out.

    Janos, do you have a spare room?

    • pequiste January 17, 2018 at 1:16 pm #

      What the problem?

      All the Rohynga Muslims need to do is first call European and North American mainstream newsmedia – broadcast. cable, and print; contact all Yzlamik media outlets; the U.N. Commission for Refugees; then go en-mass to an international airport. Present themselves to an Air France, British Airways, Alitalia, Olympic Airways, and best of all, the Lufthansa counter and DEMAND asylum in the respective nations where they wish to move to.

      Halal meals for the flight is de mandatory.

      Bet they would bump not a few paying passengers due to Angela Merkel, Teresa May and Monsieur Macron making a few phone calls and giving their blessings and unlimited support to the operation.

      “Bring them all.” The motto for the E.U. in 2018.

      Don’t forget to buy the dip in Bitcoin because this time it IS different.

      (Snicker)

      • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 2:13 pm #

        They’d actually just like to go home, but it’s a bit difficult when all those peaceful Buddhists have burnt your village down.

        “Described by the United Nations in 2013 as one of the most persecuted minorities in the world, the Rohingya population is denied citizenship under the 1982 Myanmar nationality law. According to Human Rights Watch, the 1982 laws “effectively deny to the Rohingya the possibility of acquiring a nationality.

        Despite being able to trace Rohingya history to the 8th century, Myanmar law does not recognize the ethnic minority as one of the eight “national indigenous races”.They are also restricted from freedom of movement, state education and civil service jobs. The legal conditions faced by the Rohingya in Myanmar have been widely compared to apartheid…” (Wiki)

        ********

        And we were all so taken in by the saintly Aung San Suu Kyii, who simply hasn’t noticed any discrimination going on at all… Perhaps she’s been too busy making flower arrangements

        And the government apparently recognises 135 distinct ethnic groups who make up the country (despite Janos saying this is impossible) but it’s the Rohingyas who are primarily suffering persecution.

        There had been attacks by extremists. So it’s a bit like Trump wanting all Muslims kept out because of the actions of a tiny few people, except that in his case he only picked Muslim countries from which no-one had ever attacked an American and not er… Saudi Arabia, which has American blood on its hands, but American (and British) slush money in its coffers.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 2:27 pm #

          Rakine is on the border. They just have to walk for a day or two and they’d be back home – if home would let them in. We have another manufactured crisis here – like the Palestinians not being allowed into other Arab countries. Or choosing not to in other cases.

          I assume most of those groups are small and tribal. If I’m wrong, then Burma isn’t viable. I admit I don’t know. What I do know is that Islam doesn’t belong there and is a most profound threat to both Buddhism (which it destroyed in India long ago) and Animism. The Buddhists tolerate the Animists, and much of folk Buddhism is a meld or combo. Islam will not, at least not easily. In some parts of Africa, on the border of the Islamic world, there may be a bit of this.

          Kyii has chosen her own people over the meaningless esteem of the Liberal Globalists. What a great patriot she is!

          • thwack January 17, 2018 at 4:57 pm #

            Kyii has chosen her own people over the meaningless esteem of the Liberal Globalists. What a great patriot she is!

            ***********

            Be careful what you ask for Janos, because Im sure you know the drill?

            First they set up a “no fly zone” then the next thing you know these Rowhingas are moving into your neighborhood.

            Just sayin

        • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 3:14 pm #

          The Muslims started raping Burmese women and setting meditating monks on fire. Unfortunately for them, they weren’t in Europe and the Burmese gave them back with interest. That’s how you deal with Muslims. That’s all they understand.

          Can you imagine Buddha saying, Kill one, terrify a thousand? Which is going to be higher, a culture founded on Buddha or a culture founded on Mohammad?

    • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 1:47 pm #

      Bangladesh is their original home and they are refusing to take them back? Then it’s on them. Why should the Burmese and their culture die just to please these low caste browns – whom no one wants, no even their own people?

      • GreenAlba January 17, 2018 at 2:20 pm #

        They have been there since the 8th century.

        The Myanmar government recognises 135 different ethnic groups within its borders. Which other ones would you like to leave and where would you like them to go?

        • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 2:29 pm #

          Like maybe one or two, like the one Black guy in the 11th century in England. More specious, politically motivated special pleading. All Nations must be destroyed so the Global State can rise.

        • outsider January 17, 2018 at 3:22 pm #

          Sounds like the democrats ridiculous R2P policy. Responsibility to Protect. In other words, the USA, as the world’s indispensable nation, has the MORAL DUTY to invade and bomb countries in order to save them. That worked real well in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria, didn’t it?

          In days past, such fights were left to the countries and peoples involved without the rest of the world butting in. Western imperialists have only made things worse by thinking they could make things better.

  80. janet January 17, 2018 at 1:18 pm #

    Trump says tax reform helps workers. As evidence he pointed to WalMart raising its minimum wage to $11 an hour.

    As usual Trump was lying. In response to Trump’s “tax reform” WalMart closed 63 Sam’s Club stores and cut 10,000 employees. And then Tuesday, the WSJ reported that WalMart is cutting another 1,000 jobs.

    How is this helping workers in fly-over country who voted for Trump?

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    • outsider January 17, 2018 at 3:29 pm #

      Econ 101 Janet. You raise the minimum wage and it always costs jobs. That is a concept alien to the ears of you leftists. Trump didn’t advocate raising the minimum wage – in fact he was against it during the campaign. That was Walmart’s doing, but, like any politician, Trump took credit for the good news part but ignored the bad part.

  81. pequiste January 17, 2018 at 1:26 pm #

    When I saw “The View” today (WARNING! DO NOT READ THIS COLD N. HOLEFIELD! at the gym while on a treadmill ) there is a new segment called “The Political View.”

    Whoopie Goldberg, political expert and all around in-the-know Woman -of-Colour, was pontificating with Sen Richard Durbin listening intensely about that provocative immigration meeting at the White (rayciss) House where the president allegedly said “shithole.”

    From the transcribed monologue I could tell: she was definitely playing “The Race Card.”

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6YL22QKINUE/T7QWrGAZ7qI/AAAAAAAAAOw/sEuBejQkC5g/s1600/racecard.jpg

    There needs to be a film about this.

  82. volodya January 17, 2018 at 2:00 pm #

    So Dicky Durbinsez he’s werkin’ full time for DACA kids. Hate to bring this up but the US of A has got big problemas bristling up through the swamp-waters and while the issues of the DACA kids may be lamentable, number 1- blame their fuckin’ parents for getting them into this mess and number 2 – this has got to take a back seat to the problems of actual CITIZENS.

    If the USA is supposed to be about due process and fairness then apply some due process and fairness. And so to be fair, actual citizens have to be number one on the list. And let’s be clear, it’s actual citizens that have gotten royally screwed over these past few decades and so there’s more than enough to keep a legion of law makers busy righting all the wrongs and idiocies inflicted.

    All this DACA shit is nothing more than posturing to see who can be more greatly “moral” (Democrats) or “patriotic” (Republicans). IOW none of the alleged debate is on the level. These DACA kids are just a convenient political prop. Too bad for them. But blame their idiot parents.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 2:31 pm #

      America doesn’t exist to be fair to other peoples. Their presence is unfair to Us. We matter, they don’t. Deport every one of them.

    • 100th Avatar January 17, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

      The white elected Democrats know what side their bread is buttered. They don’t actually believe in any of this horse sh*t. Trust me. The name of the game, as it always has, is keeping power. To do that, white elected democrats, particularly in states like Illinois, where the demographics don’t favor them, have to do whatever it takes to make the voters not see that they’re opportunistic greedy white people looking to get rich in the politics racket. To do this they really need to get outlandish and grab headlines that entice their low IQ electorate. If they can make the brown people believe that they’re on their side, or at least on their side while lining their pockets, well… mission accomplished.

  83. tucsonspur January 17, 2018 at 2:52 pm #

    I’ve watched leftist after leftist stumble and mumble after Tucker Carlson posed the question, “why should we help those here illegally over our own citizens?”

    One cringes at their illogical responses.

    Last night he pointed out that the governor of NJ is creating a new agency for the protection and defense of illegals while also providing them funds for college.

    The stance against the Left must become far more militant, I’m afraid. Their subversion seems to know no bounds. It’s truly mind boggling.

    Republicans cannot relinquish the “power” they now have.

    • outsider January 17, 2018 at 3:38 pm #

      Tucker’s show is the only one I watch regularly. Why? Because he is NOT a neocon on a neocon network. In fact, he made neocons Ralph Peters and Max Boot look like idiots. But his nightly pummeling of the same old open borders leftists is getting a little tiresome.

    • ozone January 17, 2018 at 4:49 pm #

      Arm up [further] and shoot to kill.
      M’kay, that should do it; get to it. Militant enough?

      • ozone January 17, 2018 at 5:01 pm #

        (Some guy in Las Vegas went ahead and “got his frustrations out” that-a-way. Did quite well for himself from what we hear on duh newz. Please continue; it’s all over but the bleeding.)

        • elysianfield January 18, 2018 at 11:43 am #

          “(Some guy in Las Vegas went ahead and “got his frustrations out” that-a-way. Did quite well for himself from what we hear on duh newz. Please continue; it’s all over but the bleeding.)”

          …And Jesus has left the building….

  84. capt spaulding January 17, 2018 at 3:01 pm #

    Half of the people on here are nuts. Right wing or left. Common sense gets little play here, and so we are reduced to left wing and right wing pronouncements. What the dialogue tells me is that it’s not gonna be settled by having discourse with each other. The problem is that it’s gonna be settled the old fashioned way: with bullets & blades. Sorry, that’s the direction we’re headed in, given the refusal of both sides to listen to each other. It’s gonna go down like it does in many other countries. Do I sound pessimistic? Well, it’s only because I’ve seen this shit go down before in other countries. For me, I don’t intend to get involved unless I have to. I don’t think that that will be possible, however, and so I am resigned to seeing this country torn apart by different factions & reduced to chaos. Just being realistic y’all. I would love to be wrong, but I doubt that I am.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 3:11 pm #

      Thas right. And your skin is your first uniform. And your ideology, your second. Both uniforms have to be the same or you are in the presence of an enemy. Since you are a Democrat, you are my enemy and will likely be on the side of the minorities. Of course, a Liberal is a White who hasn’t been mugged yet and you may yet “see the Light” when the shit gets real.

      • chola3 January 17, 2018 at 3:24 pm #

        Hi Janos, remember me?
        I am concerned about you. Maybe you are actually the Andrew anglin guy for all I know.

        I wanted to say something to you about your posts lately but I never found the will power.
        But today I drank some heavy stuff and I better use the opportunity before I regret it.

        Let me post a few (or just one more) post for you and the likes of twack and Janet.

        • chola3 January 17, 2018 at 3:42 pm #

          I am posting from Malaysia, which, like your country, likes to copy stuff and claim it as original. Umm we copied your flag and put a crescent and a single star in it. Among us Malay Chinese and southern indians here, it is a common joke that Malaysia is a multi racist country (vs the “multi-racial” tag used by the govt)

          I don’t think our founding fathers imagined how close we will actually be to the modern fckd up Americans at the time they copied that flag.

          Petroleum freaks, suburban sprawl, can’t wait to tag everything in a racial question.

          E.g
          A:guys, sorry I am late. There was this horrible accident.
          Others: wow, was it Malay Chinese or Indian who died?

          There I am wondering what difference it makes.

        • chola3 January 17, 2018 at 4:07 pm #

          Oops. I notice you are we explaining the rohingya problem.

          Guess it is ok since you (or I) didn’t have any idea I would be drunk enough to get involved.

          Never the less, I hope you listen to a person who was in the Moulmein jail for 5 months and a further 3 months in Yangon jail, moving freely among the political prisoners.

          After all, I was caught in the Karen rebel area near the mighty Salween river.

          (And there is no river prettier than Salween, no forest enchanting, no people with more hospitality than those residing there. How I wish I married commander Saw Daw Daw’ s sister-in-law [3 Pagoda Pass] when he offered)

          Let me tell what I know.
          It is this petition the rohingya Muslims (not other Muslims in Burma) made to Ayub Khan, to bring the Pakistani army to annex their area to a Greater Parkistan.

          Those Rohingyas never apologised for it. Now that the Burmese army had finished off other rebels (including recapturing the 3 Pagoda Pass) they are dealing with Yakain (Rakhaine whatever)

          You guys think you know all about Korea while not even knowing shit about Myanmar.

        • chola3 January 17, 2018 at 4:17 pm #

          So no. Bangladesh is not going to give a sh** about the Rohingyas problem, except them bastards are running to Bangladesh. Maybe they are of Banga racial stock but Bangladesh is not intending them to stay in Myanmar and claim the land for Muslims. They just don’t want them and are just trying out every options to keep those slimes out of their country.

          Now don’t get me riled up on what Bangladesh, a a sufi-like Muslim country, went through the idiotic Muslim-UberAlles project a.k.a Pakistan.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 6:33 pm #

            See? We agree. You are trying hard not to like me, but it’s not working. The Rohingya will probably end up in Britain, and end excelling the Pakistanis in their brutality against the British people. That’s no mean feat btw.

            I have preached to many clueless Western Buddhists. The Great Buddha never preached pacifism for the Laity. Who would protect the monks if everyone was a pacifist? What utter foolishness. Buddha was trained as a Warrior and to be a King. He knew how the world worked.

        • chola3 January 17, 2018 at 4:47 pm #

          There was I in my University 3rd year when this German guy introduced himself.

          Me thinking: this guy must be one of those Internationalist liberal. Why would he come to a Malaysian University to do his master’s?

          Anyway I decided to counter attack even before he can attack.

          (After some introductions at the canteen to a low life that is me)
          me: hi, you are from Germany. What caste are you?

          Geman guy: we don’t have things like caste.

          Me: well. Just wanted to know if you have any lineage, like Saxon, bavarin, hanoverian… You know.
          Okay if you … Umm have no idea.

          German guy: Pommern. How the hell you knew these things.

          Me: Europa universalis 2.

          • thwack January 17, 2018 at 5:06 pm #

            Maybe he came there for your women?

            Just sayin

        • chola3 January 17, 2018 at 5:16 pm #

          Me and my german friend having a drink in Pondicherry.

          Pomnern guy: you are like Hitler.
          Me: maybe. But you do know he was a product of hegel’s racial theories.

          Pomnern guy: I am well read too you know. And Germany has a policy of translating all important books to German. Even Tamil books.

          Me: you know the Anglo Saxons are the master race currently. You know they declared so after defeating the mogul empire. And Hitler just copied them and tried to prove the Germans are a better master race.

          pommern guy: what are you getting at?

          Me: imperial hubris. Basically we know all about you but with all your translation of all the important books, you know very little about us.

          Pommern guy: so you think it gives you guys an advantage?

          Me: not really. But there are niches where we can try our luck. It is one of the balances that nature gave.

          Anyway our conversation is cut short as another white man came happily towards my Pommern friend. I knew he spoke in neither English nor German. Since it is Pondicherry, I guessed it must be French. I also knew my friend knows a little French.

          Then my friend said, “I don’t know much French. Can we talk in English?”

          The other guy was taken aback. He just said, ” goodbye. Nice seeing you”

          There we were, sipping our drinks in that famous beach restaurant. My quiet friend was waiting for the talkative me to say something.

          ” You know. This being Pondicherry and the Frenchies still pissed off with that Robert Clive guy, maybe you should have said let’s talk in German.”

          ” What’s the difference? They hate us Germans too”

          • San Jose January 18, 2018 at 12:18 pm #

            chola3, I had no idea Germany had a “caste” tendency. One of my great-great grandmothers immigrated from Prussia in the mid-1800’s. How do the Hohenzollerns stack up against the Bavarians?

            Jen in San Jose

          • chola3 January 18, 2018 at 6:06 pm #

            Why do they need to stack up?

            Anyway I asked such a question because dumb Western fcks always go for that question and in a holier than thou manner.

            By the way modern Germany is busy creating a caste system through their education system.

            U.S has the basic part done. Just ask Janet about them hillbillies in Appalachian.

        • chola3 January 17, 2018 at 5:42 pm #

          Hi twack, you are on the mark. He WAS interested in an Indian girl. Matter of fact, he was interested in a simple looking Tamil girl that I was quite fond of. But I was really mesmerised by a chinese-indian mix named “goddess of love” in my language. So I tried my best to get her interested in the German. However she is just too much of a provincial girl and just refused to be interested in a guy

          1.too different to her colour. 2.too distant from her home.

          He married a Viet latter. I guess he realized I didn’t think highly about his choice so we lost contact a few years ago.

          (I am sure he won’t be reading these sites.)

          • chola3 January 17, 2018 at 5:52 pm #

            Didn’t help after my life went into a tailspin after an encounter with a Chinese girl who in a single sentence destroyed my entire concept of life, which was saved temporarily for a few years by a girl from Montana, then life became far worse thereafter until 2014. I was a recluse until then so can’t blame anyone.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 6:36 pm #

            Muslims and Hindus aren’t supposed to drink. So you are wrong to begin with. How are you going to pick the right woman if you are drunk? Think you will find her in a bar or pub? Think again. She must be covered up and a virgin. You must be worthy of her and she of you.

          • elysianfield January 18, 2018 at 11:48 am #

            “after an encounter with a Chinese girl who in a single sentence destroyed my entire concept of life….”

            Chola3,

            “…Who do you expect to satisfy with THAT?” means something entirely different in Mandarin….

        • chola3 January 17, 2018 at 6:59 pm #

          Janos,
          What makes you think I don’t like you? Do you really think I am one of those liberals who criticize people simply because I don’t like them?

          I am just trying you tell you there might be some flaws in your logic.

          On a side topic: I am surprised you don’t know about alcohol and Hindus. (Not talking about the other REALLY misunderstood part about different races of Hindus).

          The Manu ethics says that being drunk is a bad thing. At the same time it FORBIDS a Lord/King from banishing alhohol in the realm. Thus the “prohibition” that India tried in the 60s is very much a secular/Christian thingy copied from the 20s U.S.A.

          I actually feel bad having to tell you this since I assumed you, as a cultured indo-european, would know. Not be a rootless white ni**er.

          • chola3 January 17, 2018 at 7:06 pm #

            And please don’t bring up these “Western” buddists or Hindus or whatever. A pagan should follow his own tradition if available. And please don’t bring up the American hare Krishna fcks. As surely as you shouldn’t bring up that nikki Haley.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 7:48 pm #

            I’m always eager to learn. I didn’t know the Law of Manu anent alcohol. Makes sense. How about eating meat? Similar? Hindus have become more puritanical over time it seems. Not entirely bad since alcohol has destroyed many.

            What don’t you like about Hare Krishnas? They are Prabhupad’s Dancing White Elephants. We’ve lost our Paganism and need to borrow yours. Thus Whites are now allowed in most Temples.

            Don’t hate Krisna and Prabhupad, even if you hate White Hare Krishnas. They have made many mistakes.

          • chola3 January 18, 2018 at 2:35 am #

            Hare Krishna is a monotheistic mess who think all other deities, clan laws and tradition should be erased and replaced by whatever their whimsical heads can come up with.

            They take one literature of India, the mahabaratha. Then take one single early morning in a 13 day war, and made a Hindus Bible of it. The way they treat Bhisma, the salient character of mahabaratha, is akin to a Confederate supporter in Virginia saying general Lee is a greedy selfish scoundrel.
            (A Janet would will say he is so. The point here is, a virginian Confederate saying it)

            Such cults always exist. There was this group who wanted to replace the Roman gods. Then there was this guy who wanted to replace the gods in the Kaabah with an uber-god and be it’s spokesman.

          • chola3 January 18, 2018 at 2:52 am #

            “Hindu Laws” are a sort of meta-law. Law about laws. So it was actually a surprise to me there was this specific law. Maybe it was given as an example of the limits on a Lord in enforcing morality on his subjects.

            Most actual customs and traditions are based on “jati” sub castes and sometimes within a specific clan. Nothing surprising here if you are familiar with Germanic ways.

            In fact, in mahabaratha, a warrior is not to shirk from a drinking or gambling session.

            I recall this part of draupadi lamenting in the imperial hall:
            “Am I, the daughter of the great king Draupadi, a mere property for my husband to pawn?”

            All Bhisma could answer is, “That is an ancient question which is still to be answered definitely”

            (My wife, a Lutheran when born, was not amused watching that part :))

          • chola3 January 18, 2018 at 2:56 am #

            Oops. Should be “king Draupad”. Draupadi being the daughter of Draupad.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 18, 2018 at 4:47 am #

            The Bhagavad Gita or Song of God, is the supreme scripture of Hinduism, a summation of the Upanishads and an artful combining of them with earlier strands.

          • chola3 January 18, 2018 at 4:54 am #

            If you say so.

      • capt spaulding January 17, 2018 at 11:25 pm #

        I’m not a Democrat, and as a former door gunner, I have already “seen the light” from behind the barrel of an M-60.

        • thwack January 18, 2018 at 1:46 pm #

          Get some!

          Get some!

  85. janet January 17, 2018 at 3:50 pm #

    OFF TOPIC

    Has anyone here experienced the benefits of Vertical Farming in an Aquaponic Dome, farming fish and plants together in a soilless, water-based system? Aquaponic systems eliminate the need for soil and fertilizers. While the fish swim in special tanks, the plants thrive, nourished by the fish waste… in a beneficial ecosystem with the fish.

    Anyone?

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    • chola3 January 17, 2018 at 4:30 pm #

      Maybe you took some time off from spouting the Democratic/Internationalist drivel. Good for the soul.

      There is this Chinese guy who did something similar. Conclusion: the fish liked it but not worth for him, unless you are far out where the land is free.

      • Ol' Scratch January 18, 2018 at 8:09 am #

        Now she’s spouting technocratic bullshit, another Dem fave. I was growing herb hydroponically 40 years ago in HI. Total waste of time and money, no extra benefits noted. Second crop went au naturale and turned out much better.

  86. Janos Skorenzy January 17, 2018 at 7:41 pm #

    Prosecutors often find Women to be formidable opponents. Besides an often amazing ability to lie, the also are master of making shit up or confabulation. Also they have an amazing ability to not understand questions they don’t want to answer and/or to answer in ways that miss the point being asked. And the greatest can do all of this and pass a lie detector test. In their own minds, they’re not lying. Or they simply have no conception of what Truth is or no interest in it per se. It’s hard for a man to understand how big their ME is. By definition, Truth is simply what enhances the life of their Me.

    Consider Meghan Markle, who who told Prince Harry that she had no family. Evidently the White family who adopted her wasn’t worth mentioning. More – after an incredible effort to look as White as possible, she’s going to enhance her Black street cred by having her Black birth mother walk her down the aisle.

    She’s been married before – a long relationship to a Jewish producer followed by a marriage which lasted only two years. Possible cash out situation? All in all, this is a vulgar adventuress who is capable of Dolazealean levels of cognitive dissonance. I sympathize with Harry. High levels Nordics of often guileless in nature – easily bamboozled by these dark eyed beauties. How often I myself have been a victim of just such houris. It’s a kind of hypnosis, a deadly one in some cases. Surely some one should have stepped in to stop this madness. But there is no one. So ends great dynasties, in sweaty interludes with unworthy partners followed by shameful progeny and late regret.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meghan_Markle#Personal_life

    • tucsonspur January 18, 2018 at 2:09 am #

      How hypnotic, to entrance you more than once. The many fruits are tempting to the taste, and our appetites large.

      The freckles, peaches and cream skin of a redhead make a powerful antidote. Did you try this? Or maybe blondes?

      The blood blends and it’s said that love achieves these ends.

      Some say that love kills.

      • thwack January 18, 2018 at 9:32 am #

        Everybody needs to get off Harry’s dick. So what if Merkal’s mom is black?

        It wouldn’t be the first time a royal got caught up in the nappy dugout; Queen Sophia Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz was part black too. She was 13 of 15 with no interceptions by marriage to king George the 3rd.

        Merkal’s main flaw is her age; not her color.

        So If you never split no dark oak, STFU cause you are not qualified to comment.

        • thwack January 18, 2018 at 9:41 am #

          Upon her wedding day, Charlotte spoke no English; this was not an immediate problem because her husband and all his family spoke German perfectly. She was, however, quick to learn English, albeit speaking with a strong German accent. It was noted by many observers that she was “ugly”, had a dark complexion and flared nostrils. “She is timid at first but talks a lot, when she is among people she knows”, said one observer.[2]:17

        • elysianfield January 18, 2018 at 11:53 am #

          “So If you never split no dark oak, STFU cause you are not qualified to comment.”

          No comment….

    • GreenAlba January 18, 2018 at 6:57 am #

      “Besides an often amazing ability to lie, the also are master of making shit up or confabulation. ”

      After reading this FROM YOU, Janos, I’m having to lie down while I have my irony detector recalibrated.

      As for the rest re Ms Markle, I wish I could summon up the interest, but no, I find I just can’t. Amazing that you seem to have been party to all her conversations with Harry, though. You should ‘cash out’ on that piece of good fortune. Or ‘cash in’, as we say over here… Who knows what the bewitched Harry would say (actually, you would know, presumably…).

    • GreenAlba January 18, 2018 at 7:54 am #

      “Also they have an amazing ability to not understand questions they don’t want to answer and/or to answer in ways that miss the point being asked. ”

      ‘I did ‘NOT’ have sex with that woman.’

      That kind of ability?

      “High levels Nordics of often guileless in nature”

      Don’t forget Granny’s a descendant of Mohammed, very possibly…

    • outsider January 18, 2018 at 8:13 am #

      If Markle leads to the demise of the monarchy then she has accomplished a great thing. Many British whites do not want her in the royal family. Does that make them all racists? The British monarchy is an anachronism from the middle ages. It’s disgusting how our American media slobbers all over them, as if they are better than us, (they think they are), and that we are still a Commonwealth nation like Canada.

      I’d love to see them have to make it on their own, but Trump should ban them from becoming American citizens. They can visit only if they promise to spend lots of money.

      BTW, Janos, I had no idea of Meghan’s past and that she was married before. If Harry was determined to marry a multi-racial, he could have found one much younger than age 36 without all the unseemly baggage, who could have provided him with as many children as he wants.

      • GreenAlba January 18, 2018 at 9:08 am #

        outsider

        “It’s disgusting how our American media slobbers all over them, as if they are better than us, (they think they are), and that we are still a Commonwealth nation like Canada.”

        It’s depressing how anyone at all slobbers all over them – they are, as you say, an anachronism. I don’t know who’s worried about having her in the royal family, but if it’s for racial reasons, then yes they are racists. If it’s because she’s divorced, well, Trump’s been married three times now and nobody cares – even right-wing evangelicals vote for him, with Pence as a sop. Charles, Andrew and Anne are all divorced. Philip’s extra-curricular activities don’t seem to be a secret. How much royal hypocrisy can we stomach?

        Harry’s dad’s was an adulterer with an already-married woman. That’s the dad we’re to assume is his real dad. Really, do people take this stuff seriously? If you want unseemly, have a look at Edward VII, who makes Trump and Clinton look like St Paul.

        As for her age, wasn’t one of the sainted Garrison Keillor’s wives a very late primapara? I’m sure I remember him saying how much he admired her at the time. My mother had my second brother at 40. One of my best friends had her son at 41. Who knows if they even want children, but if they do I’m sure they’ve discussed it and they’re not worried.

        He met someone and he fell in love with her. I’m not sure why that’s not enough for people. It’s not like he’s ever going to be on the throne, bar an outbreak of something antibiotic resistant that sweeps four of the others away. And we’d have more to worry about than them, in that circumstance.

        I assume she’s already got American citizenship and Harry’s got a passport already, presumably, if he even needs one.

        • GreenAlba January 18, 2018 at 9:11 am #

          *barring*

        • Janos Skorenzy January 18, 2018 at 2:04 pm #

          Marrying for luv alone? What a hopelessly bourgeois attitude – not spread to the highest class. What about progeny? Racial purity? Character? Duty? Harry isn’t in a position to follow his heart (lusts). He should be leading a revolt against the system which has condemned White Britons to extinction. And that means marrying a White girl of childbearing age.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 18, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

            not should be now. Oh the tangled webs we weave when first we practice to perceive. And in that tangle, what dreams will come? One may need a machete to fight off the monsters or even to move at all. In any case, the jungle must be pruned, turned into a Garden.

          • tucsonspur January 18, 2018 at 2:57 pm #

            Yeah, but try telling that to the lovebirds.

            The blindness of love and all that. Is the love true? Maybe.

            Rue too can be true.

            Harry has done no good. Just another rectum in the Royal line.

          • elysianfield January 18, 2018 at 5:15 pm #

            “. And that means marrying a White girl of childbearing age.”

            Janos,
            Oh, the tangled webs we weave when first we practice to conceive….

  87. janet January 17, 2018 at 7:46 pm #

    NOT ENOUGH VOTES FOR CR; SHUTDOWN IMMINENT

    Republicans don’t have the votes to pass a continuing resolution to keep the government open.

    “Based on the number of ‘no’ and undecided votes, there [are] not enough votes for a Republican-only bill,” Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC), the leader of the House’s archconservative Freedom Caucus, told reporters.

    Then on Wednesday, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), whose bipartisan immigration proposal was nixed by the president last week, said he too would not vote for a short-term spending bill in the Senate.

  88. janet January 17, 2018 at 7:54 pm #

    Girthers don’t believe that Trump’s doctor, Ronny Jackson, reported the president’s true weight. They’re even demanding to see Trump’s girth certificate. The Girther Movement will give 100 thousand dollars to Trump’s favorite charity if he will step on an accurate scale with an impartial medical professional. For real. #GirtherMovement

    • tucsonspur January 18, 2018 at 12:48 am #

      But his mirth was boundless after he shut Hillary down. For Trump it’s the girth of victory.

      For Hillary, it’s defeat going to her hips. Comfort of the sweet, the agony of defeat.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 18, 2018 at 2:26 pm #

        Her Master Satan is licking his lips in anticipation of those hips.

  89. janet January 17, 2018 at 8:03 pm #

    In a government shutdown, “what they are really doing is shutting down our military.” — Donald Trump on Friday, January 12th, 2018 in a tweet

    Another lie from little hands in an attempt to blame the Democrats, even though Trump’s party is in control of the House and Senate.

    Active-duty military personnel have always been required to work through shutdowns. Army troops don’t abandon their posts and naval ships don’t all return to port. In addition, many civilian workers in the Defense Department have been required to work through shutdowns.

    If the armed forces stop getting paid, we will see if they are patriots or mercenaries. Do they “serve” and wear the uniform for the good of the country, or for the government paycheck, government pension, and government benefits, to be able to live off the government teat for the rest of their lives out of uniform, like leeches?

    • Ol' Scratch January 18, 2018 at 4:34 pm #

      It would take an enormously long shutdown for the military to desert their posts. So long that in all likelihood the top brass would be organizing a project to take control until the pols pulled their heads out of their asses, something they’d be fully justified in doing.

  90. janet January 17, 2018 at 10:10 pm #

    “So, it appears that any reasonable democrat, who doesn’t go around calling whites deplorables, should beat the republican next time, especially if it’s Trump.” –outsider

    LOL! It’s going to be a massive defeat of Trump, especially in fly-over country. Look at yesterday’s election in Wisconsin, deep in Trump country, where Trump won by 16%. Once again, Trump lost. Yes… and that switch from Republican to Democrat has happened 34 times now. Thank you, Mr. Trump.

    On Tuesday night, it happened again.

    Democrat Patty Schachtner beat Republican Adam Jarchow for a western Wisconsin state Senate seat that had been held by a Republican since 2000 and in a district that President Donald Trump won handily in 2016.

    Schachtner’s win marked the first Republican-to-Democrat switch at the state legislative level of 2018 but it is the 34th state legislative seat pickup for Democrats since the start of 2017. That trend is beginning to rightly alarm smart Republicans.

    “Senate District 10 special election win by a Democrat is a wake up call for Republicans in Wisconsin,” tweeted Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker soon after the race was called on Tuesday.

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    • outsider January 18, 2018 at 7:46 am #

      Good to know that you actually read my comment, Janet. I wrote it with sorrow, though, while you quoted it with glee. The silver lining is that a true America First, anti-globalist party may emerge from the wreckage of the GOP – which decidedly deserves its fate.

      And please, take Lindsay Graham, the J Edgar Hoover of the GOP (if you know what I mean), with you. Graham cracker, an open borders, American imperialist of the New World Order, fits right in with you whackos.

    • Ol' Scratch January 18, 2018 at 8:04 am #

      Trouble is silly janet-bot, the last thing the Dems want is to actually wield power. That’s when their true intentions – to serve the rich just like the GOP – get exposed.

  91. Pucker January 18, 2018 at 3:38 am #

    Are any of you CFNers going to be incarcerated in Guantanamo Bay? Trump said that he is going to fill Guantanamo Bay with “Some Bad Dudes”.

  92. outsider January 18, 2018 at 9:22 am #

    Janos,

    From your comment of 1-15 @ 6:29pm concerning the new Churchill film, I have something more unbelievable.

    To those who saw Spielberg’s film “Lincoln,” it begins with two black civil war soldiers telling the Great Emancipator off. They weren’t yelling like the Sharpton variety, but their dialog did have an edge to it. Lincoln sat there taking it. I asked my wife, who viewed it with me, if she could imagine Lincoln standing for that, or if there would be black soldiers crazy enough to talk like that to their Commander-in-Chief? As was the prominent view at the time, he thought them inferior and would have preferred to send them back to Africa. Lincoln would have more than likely put those two soldiers in chains.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 18, 2018 at 2:06 pm #

      Yes, the animus against Whites is now overwhelming. Thanks Jews! As you know, Hollywood is owned and controlled by the Tribe. I say this for the benefit of our less brothers.

    • thwack January 18, 2018 at 6:18 pm #

      I asked my wife, who viewed it with me, if she could imagine Lincoln standing for that, or if there would be black soldiers crazy enough to talk like that to their Commander-in-Chief?

      ************

      *sigh*

      you don’t know niggers.

      Theres a nigger down the street from me who raped Godzilla.

      You really need to get out more often.

  93. JustSaying January 18, 2018 at 10:19 am #

    “I made the remark that it ought to be a primary mission in education to teach proper spoken English — because without that ability, kids might not be able to learn anything else.”

    This is just basic common sense. My parents were Italian and when my older sister got to Kindergarten, she could not speak English. The nuns told my parents to stop speaking Italian to their children. Three weeks later in school, my sister was speaking English. So I am not a believer in bi-lingual education for young children, although I do believe that learning a second language is very beneficial.

    When I started to visit Italy regularly as an adult, I learned to speak proper Italian since my parents spoke a dialect. I did not expect my relatives to speak English to me even though many of them knew the language.

    How can you survive, let alone prosper without a good understanding of the native language? A wise person I knew once said that you only need two things in life – good grammar and good teeth.

    • akmofo January 18, 2018 at 10:46 am #

      Maybe the blacks in the US decided that their native language is African. Maybe the blacks in the US decided that they don’t want to “prosper” in the white man’s world. Maybe they want to create their own world. Who are we to decide for them?

      I think It’s very healthy for people to demand their own sovereignty. Blacks certainly have the numbers and the territory in the US to start demanding such and make a go at it on their own.

      • pequiste January 18, 2018 at 2:26 pm #

        AK,

        Do you say the same thing about the Palestinians and their struggle for sovereignty?

    • volodya January 18, 2018 at 11:28 am #

      Good for those nuns. For a teacher to suggest such common sense nowadays would be to court professional suicide.

      If someone wants to present themselves as greatly sophisticated and cosmopolitan and educated they tout multiculturalism. But your eyes do not deceive you. It’s multi-culti-technicolor bullshit, where the common sense of people living cheek by jowl speaking a common language and living by common rules and customs is deemed reprehensible.

      But there’s an underlying logic to multi-culturalism and the logic is about money and power. Isn’t it always? For when people are divided among themselves they’re more easily ruled. And when you have large groups of people isolated by their inability to speak a common tongue they’re more easily exploited. Especially if they’re in the country illegally.

      Will the illegals ever get any kind of legal status? Don’t hold your breath. Without legal status they’re at the mercy of monied interests, having to work for chicken feed, not being able to defend their interests without getting the attention of the Federales. Highly unpleasant to get locked up by the Migracion officers. So they have to shut up. That’s what this is about.

      • thwack January 18, 2018 at 11:52 am #

        Without legal status they’re at the mercy of monied interests, having to work for chicken feed, not being able to defend their interests without getting the attention of the Federales.

        ********************
        So maybe the goal is to keep them here as illegals?

        I worked with them twice and quit both times because it was too dangerous; roofing in the snow and crap like that…

        no thanks.

        • volodya January 18, 2018 at 12:15 pm #

          The goal is to keep them as illegals. The monied interests want oodles of immigration, preferably illegal, for cheap labor. The Democrats want immigrant votes so they’ll put on great displays of “concern” and “compassion” and being multi-culti encouraging them to keep to the old ways and the old language. As I said in the earlier post, divide and conquer.

          Don’t be fooled both Democrats and Republicans work for the same paymasters. They’ll put in a “path to citizenship” that’s so onerous, so complicated, with so much in the way of required documentation, with so many booby-traps and so many obstacles, with so much indecipherable legalese, that it’s a virtual guarantee that none of the illegals will qualify or be able to finish the process. That way they stay illegal.

          • thwack January 18, 2018 at 1:25 pm #

            in addition, keeping them in that liminal illegal state insures only the young, strong and healthy make the crossing.

            The old, lie in bed all pale and stiff like The English Patient illegals, stay in the old country.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 18, 2018 at 2:10 pm #

          Yes, exactly. If these ones are legalized, they’ll have to bring more in to exploit. And things are so bad where they come from, that countless millions will be eager to come – encouraged by the latest amnesty.

          It’s a horrible but slick system, taking us to the bottom at an accelerating rate.

    • GreenAlba January 18, 2018 at 1:08 pm #

      JustSaying

      Kids absolutely need to learn the language of the country they live in, but I’d disagree with you about bilingualism. The evidence suggests that bilingual children do better educationally overall than monolingual children. Children have a remarkable ability to pick up two languages simultaneously, one at home and one at school.

      The only proviso is that for advanced studying (post-school) they have to have one primary language in which they do their advanced thinking – if they’re absolutely bilingual they won’t go as far. So the research said when I read it anyway.

      I used to babysit in France for colleagues, one of whom was French and the other English. The kids spoke English at home but French at school and were bilingual from an early age. I used to read to them in French, then in English, depending on the book.

      Already when they were quite young, though, they picked French as their main language, e.g. when their parents weren’t there they spoke French to each other. Many of the families I knew were in a similar position. My own kids missed out because my French then-husband (in the UK) decided we should speak English to them, even though he only ever spoke French to me, which was weird. It was a lost opportunity and the kids regret it. What you learn in school isn’t the same and the second one had to do German instead anyway.

      • volodya January 18, 2018 at 1:49 pm #

        Bilingualism sounds good in theory. The – cough – “studies” purport to show advantages. But I think Justsayin has seen what I’ve seen, kids hobbled by demands of immigrant parents to stay with the old language and culture while they’re trying to make a go of it in a new country. If an immigrant kid is going to get up to speed in the new country he has to shed the old. That means not only language but also culture. The faster he learns the new, the more he’ll fit in and the better off he’ll be. Otherwise he’ll be condemned to travelling only in circles comprised of people from the old country, ie a small pond, limiting his chances.

        On a national scale bilingual or multilingual countries don’t work aside maybe from Switzerland. Boring places like Belgium and Canada sure don’t, in the former it’s Flem vs Walloon, in the latter it’s French vs English. Talk to people from those places and you’ll see the depth of dysfunction.

        While bilingualism may sound good on the surface the problem is what language carries with it, that being all the baggage of ethnic identity. If you have a critical mass of people in two languages occupying one national state, you’ll have two contending ethnicities and you have serious trouble brewing.

        The Left is preposterously contradictory for while they condemn nationalism as the preserve of Nazis, they celebrate nationalism within a country if it’s in opposition to the dominant nationalism of a place like the USA. And so they try to foster the ethnic identity of Spanish speakers. You wonder if these numbskulls are actually trying to foment civil conflict. Look around the world. Chances are, that’s what you’ll get.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 18, 2018 at 2:16 pm #

          There is a unifying principle in their madness though: Whatever hurts Whites and Western Civilization is good. Thus breaking down ancient nations in favor of small breakaways like Catalonia is good in their eyes. Of course if the Catalans stopped all 3rd World immigration, they would quickly come under fire.

          Why do they take this tack? Their Terrible Beauty, the Global State, cannot come into being until the West is destroyed and the White race along with it, insuring that it can never rise again.

          Countless English speakers were ruined when Quebec became French controlled and enforced that for careers. The same thing is set to happen in America with Spanish.

          • thwack January 18, 2018 at 5:01 pm #

            I can practice counter racism using ANY language.

            I can practice counter racism using LESS words than it takes you to practice racism.

            I can practice counter racism without using the words race or racism.

            What does this mean?

            It means a single nonwhite person practicing counter racism is more powerful than a single white person practicing racism.

            What is the evidence?

            The evidence is seen in the fact that when such events occur, the white person practicing racism is the first to attempt to enlist other people in collectively practicing racism against the single nonwhite person practicing counter racism.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 18, 2018 at 8:13 pm #

            So your racism is alright because it’s “counter-racism”? Bullshit. You’re just a racist.

          • thwack January 18, 2018 at 9:09 pm #

            Are you saying racism is NOT “alright?”

      • Janos Skorenzy January 18, 2018 at 5:47 pm #

        And you’re “not English at all” even though you’ve been there since age four. Way to assimilate! What a model for minorities to follow!

        • GreenAlba January 18, 2018 at 7:10 pm #

          “And you’re “not English at all” even though you’ve been there since age four. Way to assimilate! What a model for minorities to follow!”

          Janos, do try to avoid talking about things you know nothing about. I lived in England from four to 23, then I lived in France, now I live in Scotland where I started and have been here for decades. I’m perfectly at home in any of those places. You do talk nonsense. I was talking about nothing more significant than an accent in the same language, like the difference between someone from Newcastle and someone from York, which is about 80 miles away, but you can tell one from the other when they speak.

          I’ve nothing to assimilate too – I fit in everywhere I’ve lived. And no, I’m not English, simply because I am unaware of any English parentage. I could do a passable accent from many places in England – so what?

          I’m Scottish, British, European and human. Principally human.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 18, 2018 at 8:00 pm #

            In other words, you’re White. And as Obama said, White Greed runs a world in need.

            What have you done to make good this Original Sin? This isn’t my pov, but it does seem to be yours. The Guilt of being “the Cancer of Humanity” as Saint Susan Sontag said.

      • JustSaying January 19, 2018 at 8:55 am #

        I am talking about programs in the US where children are taught not in English, but in their native language. They are not encouraged to learn English.

        Yes, I firmly believe that being bi-lingual is very beneficial. And most Europeans speak two languages. Native Americans never really learn a second language because English is so prevalent.

        But I was referring to school programs where children are taught in their native language and not English.

        When my sister went to school, the nuns did not create a separate learning track for her. They made her speak English. They no longer do that in the States. This reluctance to learn English is counterproductive.

        I know that the Italian government after the war made Florentine Italian the official language. English is the not official language of the US!

  94. volodya January 18, 2018 at 12:03 pm #

    Senator Flake (appropriate) is, in Carlin-esque terms, stunningly full of shit just like the rest of them that talk darkly about extremism, racism, authoritarian impulses, incipient fascism.

    As soon as the common man gets tired of being shafted, as soon as he gets up on his hind legs and complains, if heaven forfend he elects someone not of the anointed class, the average joe gets accused of the most heinous crimes of attitude and belief, of being an idiot, of being inadequately educated. And of being a racist and a fascist.

    This idiot Flake equated Trump with Stalin because of some recent comments about the press. You hear this Flake crap and you don’t know where to begin. Never mind that the MSM covered itself in disrepute multiple times as Greenwald recently enumerated.

    Not that anybody ever listens or learns from the past but I’d like to remind Mr Flake about what happened in Russia circa 1917. The lesson of that period is that the country’s soldier boy didn’t act as a back-stop to the regime. The common soldier, even the Cossacks, refused to shoot demonstrators marching for bread and an end to the war. The common soldier, drawn form the same ranks as the people that were either starving or being recruited to be massacred on the front-lines, identified with his fellow citizens.

    That’s the lesson for Mr Flake and people of his ilk. You keep ruining people and if that wasn’t enough you then insult them and you don’t expect pushback? And then you don’t get the message and then you double down on the Principled Conservatism bollocks or the Higher than Thou Progressivism baloney?

    Ok, if you want to be deliberately stupid have at it. Just don’t expect GI Joe from the trailer parks to take up arms against his own. History’s the example.

  95. thwack January 18, 2018 at 1:36 pm #

    Cuntsplaining harpy shot down in flames over Briton by Dr Jordan Peterson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54

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  96. K-Dog January 18, 2018 at 2:20 pm #

    Ms. Clifford said she and Mr. Trump had sex after dinner and hours of conversation in Mr. Trump’s hotel suite, during which he dodged questions about his wife.

    The sex was “textbook generic,” she said.”

    From the New York Times. That does not make it true and it does not make it false.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/17/us/politics/stormy-daniels-trump.html?

    Looking at her picture at ‘The Times’.

    While it is true that she could definitely give this dog a bone, this dog would expect a porn star not to be able to keep her mouth shut for very long. Only a matter of time before she would spit it out.

    • volodya January 18, 2018 at 2:49 pm #

      It’s not just nitwit porn-stars. It’s the same thing anywhere. Some of the companies I’ve worked at frowned on shenanigans between co-workers and so discretion was an absolute must.

      Ha. So while the guy kept his mouth shut, the female half couldn’t especially when she realized he wasn’t leaving his wife or wasn’t the marryin’ type. And so she’d get angry and the affair would unravel and the chick would weep it all out to her female co-workers. How long do you think it would take for the bosses to find out?

      But the bosses aren’t the point. Well maybe they are, for even in the face of possible job-ending consequences, chicks STILL couldn’t keep their traps shut.

    • pequiste January 18, 2018 at 3:37 pm #

      I like it! The Grey Lady takes a gingerly first step in covering the au courant happenings of Porn, porn stars, and courtesans.

      The NY Times today – – where presstitutes meet prostitutes.

  97. FincaInTheMountains January 18, 2018 at 2:29 pm #

    The Battle of the Titans

    Wall Street Journal, came out with a panic article about the upcoming “battle of the Titans” between the US and China. The actions of Donald Trump approximate the most real trade war with Beijing, and the result of it may well be the collapse of the entire existing system of international trade. Moreover, American financial journalists point out that for the US this will result in rising unemployment and a sharp drop in profits of companies such as Apple, Boeing and General Motors.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/battle-stations-u-s-and-china-prepare-for-trade-clash-of-the-titans-1516098604

    This does not mean that everything will be simple and painless for China, but even the Wall Street Journal doubts the ability of the States to inflict enough damage on the Chinese economy to force Xi Jinping to political surrender and fulfill the demands of Donald Trump.

    The genesis of the forthcoming trade war is the desire of Donald Trump and that part of the American economic elite that led him to power to radically change the role of the United States in the world economy. They are categorically not satisfied with the position of the “world money printer”, thanks to which the States can easily plug budget holes with a printing press in the short term, maintain a colossal trade deficit and provide their population with an endless stream of cheap imports, at which nominally American companies, but in fact transnational corporations, make a lot of money.

    These corporations have long been controlled by the so-called “offshore aristocracy,” that is, super-rich families who are considered citizens (or even masters) of the world, and the US is not their homeland, but merely a convenient tool whose Army performs for the “offshore aristocracy” a role of private security that can be used all over the world.

    The existing scheme of international trade is very beneficial to the “offshore aristocracy”, which uses China as a “workshop of the planet”, while the lion’s share of revenues from the sale of the same iPhones does not settle in the US, but in various offshore jurisdictions. From the United States, jobs are being washed away, and the economy is gradually losing the competencies necessary for international competition.

    For example, a special commission of the US Department of Commerce has suspicions that in the event of an end to the import of Chinese steel, the US simply will not be able to produce steel to meet the needs of the military-industrial complex.

    This does not mean that the US has no advantage in terms of high technology development, but the current administration of Washington does not like the fact that these technologies are turning into finished products on foreign territory, and the revenues from their sale do not work for the US economy.

    • Ol' Scratch January 18, 2018 at 8:57 pm #

      So what exactly are you getting at here Finca? This is nothing more than a rehash of the pros and cons of globalization from a US nationalist POV. But of course the US is responsible for globalization in the first place, so decrying the effects of a globalist policy that your own national government demanded in the first place would seem to be a bit… I dunno… ironic… comical… idiotic… conflicted… all of the above?

      The alleged “trade clash” is actually nothing of the sort, since one side holds all of the cards in this scenario.

      File this one under “Be careful what you wish for.”

      On the other hand, is collapsing the current arrangements (and thus, presumably the US as well), the primary purpose in the first place?

      So I presume you’re asserting that Trump is smart enough to have figured all this out, and that his presumptive way forward is to first take a detour backwards to first destroy the alternative?

      Interesting, and typically devious plan from a Russian mind, but I think you’re assuming facts not in evidence; namely, that Trump has the ability to not only conceive such a strategy, but to actually execute it as well, given his well-known lack of competent and fully supportive supporting personnel, never mind personal sentient executive qualities.

      Nice try old boy, but I think you’ll have to do a little better than this.

  98. Buck Stud January 18, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

    Call me racist, but there’s not a black/mexican or “shithole country” citizen on the planet who can play like this white dude!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzae_SqbmDE

  99. tucsonspur January 18, 2018 at 4:44 pm #

    It’s all finger flickin’ good!

  100. FincaInTheMountains January 18, 2018 at 5:42 pm #

    Fyodor Tyutchev, “I’ve met you…”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9KsSmPPrLY

    I have met you – and past desires
    Revived in heart well past its prime;
    I have remembered times of golden fires –
    And heart felt so warm one more time…

    As during dark times of late autumn
    There are some days and even parts,
    When wind brings spring breath, long forgotten,
    And something rouses in our hearts, –

    So, when I’m all fanned by soft breathing
    Of all those years when soul was lit,
    With long forgotten rapture seething,
    I look at her lines, lovely knit…

    As after age-long parting broken,
    I look at you, like in a dream, –
    Behold, the sounds are getting vocal,
    The sounds that never died in me…

    Here’s not just single recollection,
    Here life began to speak again, –
    The same enchantment, same affection,
    The same old love in my soul reigns!

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    • Ol' Scratch January 18, 2018 at 5:56 pm #

      Your ode to janet I presume? Very touching. Finca the lovesick troubadour – who knew?

      • FincaInTheMountains January 18, 2018 at 6:36 pm #

        you, cynical old man…

        • Ol' Scratch January 18, 2018 at 8:15 pm #

          So you and janet are “a thing” then? Spring nuptials or are you going to “get all western wid’ it” and try living in sin for awhile down there on the finca? You strike me as a bit conflicted in this area. An old world pseudo-traditionalist rapidly morphing into a greedy, money-grubbing, western capitalist. The resulting bot-babies are sure to carry the scars of a union so ill-advised.

  101. FincaInTheMountains January 18, 2018 at 8:30 pm #

    Happy Epiphany!

    Putin at Epiphany plunges into an ice hole in the monastery on Seliger

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBNgSEBcOH4

    • Ol' Scratch January 18, 2018 at 8:36 pm #

      Nice! Ol’ Vlad looks pretty good for a man of his age and responsibility, but he could probably stand a winter fast or two just for good measure nonetheless.

  102. FincaInTheMountains January 18, 2018 at 9:11 pm #

    Will Israel, as it was intended by Stalin, become a 16th Republic of the USSR?

    President Trump waives sanctions against Iran, keeping US in deal for now, but begins four-month countdown until US ceases to comply with its obligations under the agreement.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/iran-nuclear-deal-trump-waives-sanctions-but-sets-deadline-for-overhaul

    Well, we know what’s going to happen in 4 months, don’t we? The Iranian uranium centrifuges standing still for 2 years will begin spinning faster than ever before.

    Does Trump consciously yielding the role of Shield of Israel to the Russian Federation? Nobody else will be able to protect Israel.

    US positions in the ME after ISIS defeat are much weaker.

    American Evangelicals will go nuts.

    • FincaInTheMountains January 18, 2018 at 9:18 pm #

      What can I say?

      Russia definitley could use highly qualified, hard-working, honest technical managers.

    • akmofo January 19, 2018 at 9:13 am #

      Iranian uranium centrifuges? My understanding is that these are Russian uranium centrifuges along with Russian uranium.

    • akmofo January 19, 2018 at 9:21 am #

      Dances With Wolves
      http://www.mepc.org/journal/dances-wolves-russia-iran-and-nuclear-issue

  103. thwack January 18, 2018 at 9:14 pm #

    Cannabis was legal for 37 million years until the white man outlawed in in 1937.

    Just sayin

  104. janet January 19, 2018 at 3:00 am #

    Trump-Russia collusion? What Trump-Russia collusion?

    Russia funneled $52 million into the NRA to directly support Trump’s presidential bid in 2016.

    Now that is collusion!

    Makes Facebook and Twitter trolls, and the release of hacked DNC and Clinton campaign emails through Wikileaks look like child’s play.

    A $52 million “nothing burger” of illegal foreign campaign contributions… follow the money… that’s what Mueller is doing… and even bigger amounts of money were laundered by Trump for Russia mafia. Now those 51 contacts with Russia during the campaign begin to make sense.

    Trump is going down.

  105. janet January 19, 2018 at 3:28 am #

    Somebody call Donald, quick! Washington needs fixing to avoid shutdown. The GOP refused to fund children’s health. The GOP reversed Obama’s DACA order. The GOP, as the majority in power in the House and Senate, refused to continue both DACA and CHIP. They did it over the protests of Democrats. They were proud of their actions.

    Now the GOP is using CHIP and DACA as hostages, saying the out-of-power Democrats are to blame if they don’t vote for a CR!

    “I have joined the political arena so that the powerful can no longer beat up on people that cannot defend themselves. Nobody knows the system better than me, which is why I alone can fix it.”

    — Donald Trump, 2016 Republican National Convention.

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    • janet January 19, 2018 at 3:42 am #

      It is pathetic how easily 63 million voters were manipulated by Trump. Who is going to pay for the wall? You are! To the tune of $18 Billion of your tax monies. Trump, the “great deal maker”, (no, that should be “the greatest deal maker of all history”), could not get Mexico to pay one peso. So, deplorably, Trump voters are paying for the wall.

  106. pequiste January 19, 2018 at 5:27 am #

    How swiftly the CFN commentariat turned from the topic at hand.

    I think we are looking at a severe case of Negro Fatigue.

    Does Thwack concur?

    (Sneak preview for this week’s big Celebrity Perv contestant: last name is Douglas)

    • thwack January 19, 2018 at 7:49 am #

      You all are the ones who offered no SUGGESTIONS?

      Jim did his best; but you all couldn’t get a grip on your racism.

      • thwack January 19, 2018 at 8:10 am #

        One of the best “tells” that a white person is a racist is by their quickness to criticize nonwhite behavior without offering compensatory suggestions.

        That train is never late.

        • thwack January 19, 2018 at 9:04 am #

          Matter of fact Jim, I suggest you do a review of the United Independent Compensatory Code/System/Concept; because its one of the few books containing practical suggestions to compensate for black behavioral pathology.

          I suspect thats also why its not very popular.

          Neely Fuller is in his 80s now, so Im not sure he still does phone interviews?

          But if you want his number, I think I still have it; he lives in DC.

          Its a very interesting book.

          The first time I read it I just assumed Fuller was a white person because it was so logical, comprehensive and precise.

        • elysianfield January 19, 2018 at 11:06 am #

          “One of the best “tells” that a white person is a racist is by their quickness to criticize nonwhite behavior without offering compensatory suggestions.”

          Thwack,
          Sooo, “Blacks are delivering to us a generation of Bastard children” can become acceptable if I suggest the Blacks squirting out the litters get married?

          Just sayin’

          Course
          I
          May
          Or
          May
          Not
          Be
          White….

  107. FincaInTheMountains January 19, 2018 at 5:28 am #

    Game’s Over

    Fox News host Sean Hannity declared that the “witch hunt” against President Trump headed up by special counsel Robert Mueller is “over” in the wake of a memo circulating among lawmakers that reportedly details surveillance abuses by the U.S. government.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/369676-hannity-tells-mueller-your-witch-hunt-is-now-over

    Hannity: Mueller & His Band of ‘Democratic Witch Hunters’ Need to Be Disbanded Immediately

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLsPDosgbsM

    Will Finca and his theory of Hillary Clinton committing a coup d’etat in June of 2016 will be vindicated?!

    http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-desperate-and-the-dispirate/#comment-269643

    On June 9, 2016 there was a terrible catastrophe of apocalyptic proportions: US President Barack Obama has endorsed Hillary Clinton as the best candidate for the US presidency.

    Well, it would seem – a standard procedure, the democratic president recommended a leading Democratic presidential candidate – what’s he big deal?! What is there to be upset about?! And anyway, how could it be otherwise? He couldn’t have endorsed Bernie Sanders after he blew California, right?

    But the interesting thing is that the catastrophic “endorsement” of Hillary Clinton lies entirely in the symbolic plane and awareness of this simple fact divide our lives into two parts: before June 9, 2016 and after. We live in a different world, where there are no Jeffersonian democracy, and the United States are no longer the ally of Russia in the Great Patriotic War.

    Actually, those who always believed the United States to be eternal enemy of Russia, and Jeffersonian democracy just a mirage in a desert, probably laugh at the chagrin of those who appreciate these rather ephemeral substances in our gross material world. But the difference between the world in which we lived before June 9, and the one we live now, they will notice on their own skin very quickly, perhaps more quickly than those miserable idealists who hoped to see again Roosevelt’s America and the Yalta world.

    No matter what are the reasons why President Obama “endorsed” Hillary Clinton: due to the coup d’état of the war party, or by virtue of the agreements that they struck in 2008, thanks to which he became president. It is important that the world no longer has a symbolic figure – President Obama, who until June 9 was like a padlock locking the gates of hell and devastating nuclear crisis.

    No more Obama, who in 2009 received the Nobel Peace Prize for not letting Senator McCain and Hillary Clinton to the White House, and in 2013 did not allow bombing of Syria.

    Moreover, together with the symbolic figure of Obama’s is gone 200-year-old Jeffersonian democracy, and the first to understand that were the supporters of Senator Sanders, who an hour before this disaster came from the White House, beaming after a private conversation with Obama and expressing hope that the California votes will be counted honestly, clearly hinting that was what the president promised. And this “endorsement” came an hour later.

    And in this situation, what supporters Sanders are concerned about?

    First of all, they require that Sanders does not dare to pass Hillary database with the names of his supporters and their contact information. Moreover, they are clearly not afraid of intrusive harassment of Hillary requests to vote for her, but of specific persecution on political grounds, which has nothing to do with the Jeffersonian democracy.

    And now instead of the US Democratic Party, there is the National Socialist Party of Hillary Clinton, as socialism, which Bernie Sanders slipped in to her in conjunction with her foreign policy is the National Socialism in a chemically pure form.

    In this paradigm, the main theme of the elections in the United States is bound to be opposition of National Socialism and Fascism, which she attributes to Donald Trump, who really looks a bit like Mussolini.

    While other choices could there be in a country where there was a coup d’état?

  108. Kawika January 20, 2018 at 8:57 pm #

    OK, so Trump is an evil racist for calling Haiti a ‘shithole’. What about the Clintons? They are largely responsible for making it a shithole through their own greed, not to mention Bill Clinton’s ruinous policy in the 1980s and 90s of selling rock-bottom low-priced mechanized Arkansas rice to them, thus destroying the Haitian domestic rice-growing industry, which had supported over a million farmers. After being figuratively crushed by cheap rice, they moved to the city en masse to work in the ‘free trade zones’ making cheap baseballs for export to the US, as per the Clintonian trade policies foisted on them. They were subsequently crushed literally by their substandard houses in the 2010 earthquake. Mass murder by policy.

    I guess the ultimate unforgivable sin in US politics is saying the truth. Jim points out that many parts of the USA have become shitholes. Imagine the howls of indignation from Liberal elites if Trump were to say that!

    https://www.democracynow.org/2016/10/11/bill_clinton_s_trade_policies_destroyed

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