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Mid Year Digest

by James Howard Kunstler

     Wondering why the money world got its knickers in a twist last week? The answer is simple: the global economy is breaking apart and its constituent major players are doing face-plants on the downhill slope of a no-longer-cheap-oil way of life.  Let’s look at them case by case.

     The USA slogs deeper into paralysis and decay in a collective mental fog of disbelief that its own exceptionalism can’t overcome the laws of thermodynamics. This general malaise precipitates into a range of specific quandaries. The so-called economy depends on financialization, since it is no longer based on manufacturing things of value. The financialization depends on housing, that is, a particular kind of housing: suburban sprawl housing (and its commercial accessories, the strip malls, the box stores, the burger shacks, etc.). Gasoline is now too expensive to run the suburban living arrangement. It will remain marginally unaffordable. Even if the price of oil goes down, it will be because citizens of the USA will not have enough money to buy it. Lesson: the suburban project is over, along with the economy it drove in on.

     But so is the mega-city project, the giant metroplex of skyscrapers. So, don’t suppose that we can transform the production house-building industry into an apartment-building industry. The end of cheap oil also means we can’t run cities at the 20th century scale. That includes the scale of the buildings as well as the aggregate scale of the whole urban organism. Nobody gets this. For one thing, there will be far fewer jobs in anything connected to financialization because that “industry” is imploding. The recent action around the Federal Reserve illustrates this. When chairman Bernanke’s lips quivered last week, the financial markets had a grand mal seizure. He floated the notion that his organization might “taper” their purchases of US government issued debt and mortgage-backed securities — the latter being mostly bundled debt originated by government-sponsored entities and agencies. That’s the “money” that supports the suburban sprawl industry.

     If the Fed were to reduce its purchases of this debt paper, nobody else would buy it. The reason the Fed buys the quantity it does in the first place ($85 billion-a-month) is that nobody else would touch it at the offered zero interest rates. The US Treasury and the mortgage bundlers could only sell the stuff if they paid higher interest rates. But the US government would choke to death on higher interest rates because its aggregate debt is so huge and the scheduled interest payments so gigantic that a one percent increase would destroy even the fantasy of economic equilibrium.

     Apart from that unhappy equation, entropy never sleeps. Everything in America except the Apple stores and a handful of big banks is falling apart — especially the human habitat and households. Suburbia will only lose value and utility. Big cities will have to get smaller (ouch!). Tar sands, shale oil and shale gas will not ride to the rescue (they cost too much to get out of the ground). The entire declension of government from federal to state to local will be too broke to fix the roads and make “transfer payments” to idle, indigent citizens. This populace will lose faith in their institutions… and disorder will eventually resolve in a new and very different disposition of things on-the-ground. If we’re lucky, this will not include cruel despotic leadership and war.

     If the “taper” talk is empty rhetoric, and the Fed continues sopping up issued debt, it will eventually destroy the credibility of its issued money. That is just another way of going broke, though it might beat a shorter path to the general loss of legitimacy of governments and other institutions.

     Young people, harken: prepare for careers in agriculture and activities that support it. Consider moving to small towns in parts of the country where farming is possible and get ready to rebuild a very different economy.  Also, consider repudiating your college debt en masse, since the fantasy of repayment is but another mental shackle holding you back from your future.

     As for the other parts of the global economy, a digest:

     Europe doesn’t have enough oil and gas to run itself. Its suppliers (Russia, various Islamic states) are all basically hostile to it. As the late, great Tony Soprano might say, “end of story.” Europe has been playing financial pocket pool with itself for five years with credibility ebbing. Soon Europe will descend into painful economic re-set. Its era as the go-to theme park of advanced civilization is ending. Go there while it’s still possible and take some snapshots of what comfort and artistry used to look like.

     China is imploding under the weight of its half-assed crony command economy and banking system. Nice try. Cookie fortune says, “Industrial era entered too late in game.” All else there is desperation: e.g. the idea of moving hundreds of millions of peasants into new cities. As Tony would say, “Fuggeddabowdit.” They’re better off growing bok choy en situ. Anyway, no one should assume that China can remain politically stable. Let’s hope that its economic and political crack-up doesn’t transmute into war.

    Russia’s oil production is in permanent decline. It has a lot, but it gets most of its income from selling it to other people. Hence, Vlad Putin’s notion of finding something else to base Russia’s economy on. Like…what? I don’t think they’re going to replace China in making salad shooters. Farming would be the way to go, and Vlad’s government is hoping that global warming improves Russia’s prospects for doing more of that. In any case, Russia might benefit in the long term by not selling off all of its oil and gas — though Western Europe would surely suffer from that decision. On the plus side, Russia’s government is not crippled by idiot squabbles over abortion, gay marriage, and the Bible in schools.

     Japan. Sorry to repeat myself. Going medieval. They have no oil and gas. (Cue Tony Soprano again.) In the event, Japan’s financial hara-kiri will drag down the rest of the world’s banking system — or at least hasten the damage already self-inflicted elsewhere around the globe. I’m also informed that much of the essential computer chip fabrication in the world still happens in Japan, and that will go away, too, as the Japanese engine seizes, smokes, and expels its final belch of CO2.

     What else is there? South America? Think: spreading jungle (or desert, take your pick). Canada? There’s an idea. Maybe Labrador becomes the new Hamptons? Second biggest national land mass… 30 million people (2 percent of China’s population). Only one drawback: the view to the south. 


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501 Responses to “Mid Year Digest”

  1. EvelyV June 24, 2013 at 8:09 am #

    Unfailingly great writing.

    • flipper77 June 24, 2013 at 8:17 am #

      What about Australia?

      • Paul Steer June 24, 2013 at 8:44 am #

        “We could shoot some kangaroos!”
        “We could build an amusement park there!”
        “They’ve got surfing too!”

        • ozone June 24, 2013 at 9:12 am #

          As I remember from the bridge of the Randy Newman song:

          “We’ll save Australia; don’t want to hurt no kangaroo;
          We’ll build an All-American amusement park there…
          They got surfin’ too!

          Boom goes London; Boom Par-ee;
          Lots more room for you and more room for me…” (etc.)

        • gp June 24, 2013 at 11:16 am #

          there’s always life on Mars.or possibly Alien rescue.

          • caseyf5 June 24, 2013 at 12:02 pm #

            Hello gp,

            You mean other Aliens than the ones currently in charge of the world!

      • Steve June 24, 2013 at 10:58 am #

        Like Canada, except with desert instead of tundra. :-p

    • karah sicily June 24, 2013 at 12:34 pm #

      He ends a sentence with a preposition! Not great.

      • D Benton Smith June 24, 2013 at 1:32 pm #

        Karah Sicily ,

        And you wrote a sentence with neither subject nor verb. Even not greater.

        Just teasing (but it’s fun)

        D Benton

    • D Benton Smith June 24, 2013 at 1:25 pm #

      Gotta agree. James even got in “declension” ( ” a bending or sloping downward; slope; descent; a falling off or away; decline, deterioration “).
      He would have to spot me a thousand points before I would even think about taking the guy on at Scrabble.

      When Time Travelers tour this segment of history, James will be the docent of choice , sort of a New York style de Tocqueville in turtleneck.

  2. Jason Heppenstall June 24, 2013 at 8:15 am #

    Jim, I wonder f the latest financial seizure is just another (increasingly louder) sneeze, or a real Minsky Moment. Cultural narratives are curious things – over hear in the UK were are constantly told by the ‘media’ that the US economy is soaring to new highs. If just the teensiest threat of a ‘taper’ causes such a paroxysm, it will be ‘interesting’ to see what happens when the whole financial system suddenly has to undergo cold turkey.

  3. Lyttonmike June 24, 2013 at 8:15 am #

    Jimmy, my boy, but you do paint a grim picture; but you do it so artistically who can complain. So, hey, where’s everybody else in the comments section?

  4. Mike Skinner June 24, 2013 at 8:16 am #

    Another classic JHK.

  5. orbit7er June 24, 2013 at 8:16 am #

    Actually Europe is doing something about its waste of oil for Autos.
    Auto sales have dropped 27%, public transit ridership is booming. Germany of course is ahead of the rest of the world in renewable energy installations of solar and wind as well as the “PassivHaus” super insulated buildings requiring minimal heating and cooling.
    Also as we can see Europe’s people still have a pulse of resistance to the banksters and their predations as seen in massive rallies and demos all across Europe. I would not be so quick to write off Europe – they are probably leading the way.

    Japan is another story – apparently their massive QE money-printing and fiscal investment is primarily rightwing revanchism. Mike Whitney in Counterpunch had an interesting article on this last week:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/20/why-stiglitz-is-wrong-about-abenomics/

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  6. Piltdown Man June 24, 2013 at 8:21 am #

    The breakout of protests in Brazil should hasten our concern that similar events may, eventually, find there way to our shores. And that’s the good news! The increase in metro fairs was the straw that sent the nation’s working poor into a major snit, because they can hardly pay for it as it is. Would similar outbreaks occur on these mighty shores when gasoline prices spike once again? Only time will tell whether we have anything left in the national will well or whether that pool is dessicated for good….

  7. upstate bob June 24, 2013 at 8:26 am #

    -and we continue at this day to consume (per SNL) mass quantities of oil. No matter WHERE it comes from, it is going to peter out dramatically. The delusionists believe our “scientists” will save the day. The only energy we have actually created is with nuke power. Our civilization requires oil to continue.

  8. djc June 24, 2013 at 8:27 am #

    I think its pretty evident that Jim’s predictions ARE coming true albeit at a somewhat slower pace than we thought when he first started the CFN blog.

    On a somewhat different track we spent much of the weekend biking on the towpath trail in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park and two items keep sticking in my mind. 1) The level of obesity affecting so much of America is just beyond shocking. I mean the amount of ice cream, pop and candy consumed by land whales makes me wish I was a shareholder in a candy company and 2) The exhibits, museums and small farm restorations made me think of what our future may look like—a lot like our past.

    djc

    • Lance Sjogren June 24, 2013 at 8:43 am #

      I have taken up gardening as a refuge from the insanity of our political leaders. I am particularly upset about their attempt to accelerate the collapse of the United States through radical acceleration of population growth, aka “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”.

      I have been waiting for Kunstler to write on this topic but he will probably wait until we know the fate of the 2013 anarchy bill.

      • And so it goes June 24, 2013 at 9:14 am #

        Oh Lance, give it up.

        This is a shared world

    • HK June 24, 2013 at 8:52 am #

      There is hope. Landscape urbanism is going to transform the Valley. Everyone is going to drive there to jog.

      http://portarchitects.com/project/re-cultivating-the-forest-city/

    • Neon Vincent June 24, 2013 at 9:06 am #

      The United Nations has another vision of our future–nine billion or more eating insects for protein instead of hoofed animals. Bon appetit!

      http://crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/2013/06/now-un-says-edible-insects-are-future.html

  9. John June 24, 2013 at 8:27 am #

    Did you know Boards of Canada lists Jim and Dmitry Orlov as inspiration for their new album?

    That’s awesome.

  10. K-Dog June 24, 2013 at 8:27 am #

    Solutions ! We need solutions. This endless bitching about the state of the world is getting us nowhere.

    K-Dog

    Stop by and visit and give the dog some love.

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    • Jumbotron June 24, 2013 at 8:48 am #

      I think if you re-read this post carefully and all the rest in the archives…plus JHK’s books…the solutions are abundantly clear.

      Simplify
      Simplify
      Simplify

      With a healthy dose of decentralize your life….learn to farm…re-use….spend less….use less energy…and most importantly of all…..free your mind from this techno-Matrix and the lies that it spews. Only then can you apply the solutions that are best for your life once you realize that this life we are born into and are taught about and are trained for is simply a lie….a kind of Matrix. After you realize that….then the solutions will come to you.

      That said…..as someone who has woken up….in part due to the writings of JHK…it is DAMN hard to change and put into place those solutions even for my personal use. I am still working on it to this very day.

      • djc June 24, 2013 at 10:51 am #

        Yes, I agree with this.

        djc

      • karah sicily June 24, 2013 at 12:58 pm #

        Ya, my life would get a whole lot simpler when I find a neuteres partner with a min thirty thousand annual salary from a politically supported institution and may want to garden or farm into their old age.

    • sensato June 24, 2013 at 9:16 am #

      “Mac’s book Finding Earth, Finding Soul – the invisible path to authentic leadership speaks to the necessity for each of us to gather our courage and step out of the shadows and become the leaders ‘we have been waiting for’”.

      http://youtu.be/zEssxCSlItw

    • Neon Vincent June 24, 2013 at 9:55 am #

      I stopped by your blog to give you some love–and do you ever need it!

      As for solutions, I keep typing that the solutions devised here in Detroit will be exported to the rest of the continent, including the bad ones. Here’s to hoping we come up with some good ideas!

  11. Smoky Joe June 24, 2013 at 8:30 am #

    JHK leaves out a revolt by America’s young and under-employed. They are socially networked and angry about the sucker’s economy here in the States. I expect an American Spring in the next few years. Might start with a movement to default en masse on those loans.

  12. ozone June 24, 2013 at 8:31 am #

    James,
    You’ve got to stop focusing on what the underlying realities are!
    Here’s as good a fantasy as a Disney-promise: “They’ll think of something”.

    Isn’t that much nicer now?

    BTW, incisive summation coupled with just the right ‘tone’ for this fool’s paradise of Potemkin villages. I always wonder how pissed the lumpenprole will be when they witness the crumpling of the false-fronts before their very eyes. I contend that they’ll “lose their shit” when the lies haven’t the backing of faith any longer.

    • WSHancock1864 June 24, 2013 at 9:01 am #

      Oh, ‘Zone!

      Fantasy is so much preferable to reality.

      Looked at the TV lately?

      Ghosts, bigfoots and assorted goblins abound.

      Third Worldism everywhere, and in all systems..baked into the cake.

      The dystopian novels of futures’ past come to life with amazing fidelity.

      From the Boston Marathon Op, we had out First Gestapo House-to-House AND our first blatant “Shot While Trying to Escape”.

      Operation Sheep (Google it) and all the rest, proceeding right on schedule.

      Problem is, they are racing to stay ahead of the environmental and energy problems, which drive the economic and sociopolitical Final Solutions.

      Now it’s looking like the environmental is going all non-linear, so even if the downside of The Bumpy Plateau we are perparing to slide off is slow and gradual, the environmental realities will even overtake the energy realities.

      The nonlinearity is not certain, but by the time we have enough data points, it will be a cold and horific certainty indeed.

      On the “smallest” level of The Big Picture, in Corpzi America, the Full Spectrum Prison incompletely in place, only awaiting 9/11 #2 to be born in it’s full flower, which Boston shows will be so easy and the serfs will cheer their own bludgeonings, both economic and physical.

      Enjoy, everyone. As bad as The Big Picture is in the present moment, future generations, if there are any, will still view these as part of The Good Old Days.

  13. Jumbotron June 24, 2013 at 8:39 am #

    To flipper77……”What about Australia?”

    I go there on business every year. Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne…….and I can tell you they are infected with the same constipated and fatal delusional thinking that we here in America have. Property bubbles all over the place. Increasing military spending and expanding military relationships with the U.S. They have the white female version of Barack Obama as Prime Minister in the form of Julia Gillard. Their magical thinking about the amount of coal they have in the ground and how long into the future it can power their magical lifestyles in the cities. And worse still is a leftover sense of superiority from the time they were a British Colony. The only thing they have going for them is when the end comes they will still have Mel Gibson on the road with his ragtag dog defending the highways in cars powered by pig-shit.

  14. malthus June 24, 2013 at 8:43 am #

    All I can say is young people get the hell out of the rat infested criminal enterprise called the united states. Save yourselves.

  15. Lance Sjogren June 24, 2013 at 8:44 am #

    my favorite line:

    Cookie fortune says, “Industrial era entered too late in game.”

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    • Smoky Joe June 24, 2013 at 10:15 am #

      He has it almost perfect. Any fortune in a cookie must work with the words “in bed” added.

      • Rollie Fingers June 24, 2013 at 6:39 pm #

        In that case, “Industrial era too late entered.”

  16. Neon Vincent June 24, 2013 at 8:44 am #

    The U.S. may be in denial that it can overcome the loss of cheap oil, but in at least one important way, it’s been playing out exactly what could have been forecast from the classic Peak Oil graph, right down to the timing. The total number of miles driven peaked at the end of 2007. The total number of cars on the road peaked in 2008. That fits the peak conventional oil price and peak monthly production date of July 2008. That’s a little late for the conventional Peak Oil graph, which showed a peak in the 2005-2006 range, but it turns out that both miles driven and cars on the road reflect that, too, once the numbers are adjusted for population. Total miles driven per capita peaked in 2005, while cars on the road per person peaked in 2006, right on schedule. Peak Happy Motoring, anyone?

    http://crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/2013/06/happy-motoring-in-us-has-peaked.html

  17. K-Dog June 24, 2013 at 8:44 am #

    The USA slogs deeper into paralysis and decay in a collective mental fog of disbelief that its own exceptionalism can’t overcome the laws of thermodynamics.

    That’s it !!! Stimulate the economy by paying attention to the laws of thermodynamics. Live the math. Make fundamental change to our living arrangements a growth industry. Start livin right !!

    If we get corporations out of government and elect honest politicians we can do it. The challenge of a change we can believe in. It could unite the country in happiness. There’s no time to waste. We need crash courses in the laws of thermodynamics on every corner. We need them now.

    Who’s with me, K-Dog.

    • ozone June 24, 2013 at 8:53 am #

      I hear you, Dawg, but pain is what gets the lessons learned. The only way out is through, and just because an approach is ‘rational’ doesn’t mean it will be paid attention to as long as ‘easy/convenient’ is extant.
      (Look at vote-casting as the total sum of our civic engagement. ‘Easy’, ain’t it?)

      • K-Dog June 24, 2013 at 9:09 am #

        Your response has me thinking of the dilemma of the optimist and the pessimist. An optimist tends to be more deluded than a pessimist but is more effective at getting things done.

        • ozone June 24, 2013 at 9:36 am #

          …but when a pessimist sets about doing what needs done, it’ll be done right the first time because of some weighing of pros and cons of its’ essential building blocks! 😉

          Most politicians pretend to be ‘optimists’, otherwise they wouldn’t get elected. Their precipitous plunging into issues without due diligence or the minimum of understanding makes for bad legislation and even worse ‘law’. Sometimes “getting things done” turns out to be a bad thing for the commons. (The Citizens United ruling got done with alacrity, and the TPP won’t even be considered by any court; it’ll become global corporate law in double-quick fashion. A good thing?)

    • ozone June 24, 2013 at 8:55 am #

      (Interesting that we saw the massive, black-hole compaction of that same sentence.)

    • Belisarius June 24, 2013 at 10:02 am #

      “If we get corporations out of government and elect honest politicians we can do it”. Yes, and if i could transmute lead into gold i’d be rich! Both propositions are equally unlikely.

      Any “honest politician” that threatens the corp-gov status quo is either “convinced” to adapt to it’s needs, removed, or marginilized in one way or another. Congress might be permitted some gadfles for the media to poke fun at, and some (paid to fail) token opposition to corp-gov; but a platform to air real change is verboten.

    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 12:34 pm #

      I can see some T shirts in the offing. How about E=MC squared with a line thru it? That’s just one!

  18. Canada June 24, 2013 at 8:46 am #

    View to the south – funny and right on

  19. ozone June 24, 2013 at 8:47 am #

    Ps.
    JHK,
    This sentence is a portrayal of a dangerous zeitgeist in this country, and is probably the most frightening [and deadly accurate] snapshot in the entire essay:

    ” The USA slogs deeper into paralysis and decay in a collective mental fog of disbelief that its own exceptionalism can’t overcome the laws of thermodynamics.”

    That’s the plutonium pellet at the heart of matters, and should inform the strategies of the already awakened. Consider what happens when comfortable delusion is snatched from the sleepers and they snap into consciousness, very grumpy and no longer “gruntled”…

  20. Ogier de Beauseant June 24, 2013 at 8:49 am #

    The problem is that the industrial system is out of whack. Consider pre WW11 USA. We made all our own stuff but lead toy soldiers and the few trinkets from Japan were so sub standard that made in Japan was a standing joke. We made the worlds best machine tools and hardware. I started work in a wholesale hardware company and the products we sold from American manufacturers was top quality. Now Asia has taken over manufacturing leaving the displaced American worker with a shit job at Walmart. Clinton thought the new jobs provided by computers would take the place of heavy manufacturing. Wrong. In fact computers have put thousands out of work That was the productivity were bragged about. Today it takes one skilled machinist to made a complex metal part and CNC computers can make a million perfect copies.What’s to be done.? Nothing . The genie is out of the bottle. And by the way, your use of a TV character glorifying the mafia means you have bought into the delusion.we will all have to live a virtual existence. Except the 1%

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    • K-Dog June 24, 2013 at 9:00 am #

      Finding meaning to life in the real world was hard enough. The complication of building a fulfilling life with worlds of virtual distraction everywhere one looks is nearly impossible.

      And lonely too.

      K-Dog

      • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 12:37 pm #

        Humping people’s legs yet? Sorry I couldn’t resist. You are right of course.

    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 12:39 pm #

      Yes, technology is the anti-answer to unemployment. Put everyone on social services – a bare minimum. Cut out the middle women of the Government Bureacracy. As Yoda said, do or not do – no middle. We need a Radical Answer.

  21. K-Dog June 24, 2013 at 8:53 am #

    “The USA slogs deeper into paralysis and decay in a collective mental fog of disbelief that its own exceptionalism can’t overcome the laws of thermodynamics.”

    That was supposed to be in HTML blockquotes in my earlier comment. Apparently blockquotes don’t work in the new ‘Zion’ of this Matrix.

    K-Dog

  22. John in Mtl June 24, 2013 at 8:59 am #

    Hi Gang,

    I love JHK’s writings and have been following them for about 2 years now. He talks a lot about the USA and the world in general. Makes sense since he’s an American. I’m in Canada. Its a good idea to know what the neighbour is up to, especially a powerful and influential nation such as the US. Granted, we live pretty much the same way and whatever happens in the US eventually affects or happens to Canada. In the meantime, does anyone know of a blog similar to JHK’s but pertaining more to Canadian affairs?

    Thanks

    • Pete June 24, 2013 at 10:39 am #

      I don’t know, John, but I’d like to know of at least one. Lacking that, I find Andrew Nikiforuk to be consistently sharp. Check out his latest on “Calgary’s Manhattan Moment” – http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2013/06/24/Calgary-Floods-Climate-Change/

      Petemoss

      • John in Mtl June 24, 2013 at 11:30 am #

        Thanks Pete, I’ll check it out.

      • darrenhfx June 24, 2013 at 12:14 pm #

        Thanks for the link Pete, I was wondering the same thing re: Canadian affairs.

        I liked Andrew’s article, it certainly has been an interesting 5 days in Calgary with the full range of crisis reactions (from discovering and assisting neighbours to hoarding and looting) being in evidence.

  23. Working, really. June 24, 2013 at 9:09 am #

    Have you, perhaps, noted such high-minded political theatre in Russia as the Pussy Riot trial and the current “thou shalt not speak of homosexuality to children” law? Ignore the stolen Super Bowl ring, they are just as invested in government-as-trivia as the old West.

  24. Al Kleinh June 24, 2013 at 9:33 am #

    It seems to me that JHK’s predictions are tracking to reality very well indeed. Sure, it sometimes seems as though “things” are OK. Why is that so? Because there is a veritable army of actors out there who desperately need for the show to go on as it is. Consequently, they keep up a barrage of propaganda that “things are OK” and even “things are get better – a lot better”. Any critical assessment of this propaganda is met with a blast of invective and ridicule – which is sure to silence all but the most hardy and grounded of critics – such as JHK. Net result? Reality wins in the end. And all that time where we could have been preparing for it was squandered trying to stave off the inevitable with wishful thinking and self-deception.

    • ozone June 24, 2013 at 9:40 am #

      Good comment. Thanks Al.
      …And, as he says:
      “Ridicule is the unfortunate destiny of the ridiculous.” -JHK

  25. Martin June 24, 2013 at 9:36 am #

    Jim:

    The very thought of easing by the Fed has led to three triple digit down days on the Dow.

    The riots in Brazil almost guarantee that the World Cup will be a disaster, I am going to bet the 2016 Olympics will be canceled.

    Iceland has all but canceled their application for EU membership.

    Because their population is shrinking Japan may go medieval a lot easier than the US, because if we go medieval or in our case Amish, the population will have to shrink and shrink a lot.

    Canada may not be able to support its current population, never mind take in a couple of hundred of us, certainly a city like Toronto is unsustainable.

    If the collapse is a sudden one, then think die off, kind of like what happened on Easter Island only on a global scale. I do not think any one is really prepared for the horrors that would entail.

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    • Outpost of The Empire June 24, 2013 at 10:59 am #

      Interesting developments “north of the border”. The climate change deniers capital of Canada, Calgary, Alberta just got smacked by a one in a hundred year flood. Strange they called the 2005 flood a one in a hundred year flood. But fear not they now call the 2013 flood a one in a thousand year flood and it can”t happen again. For those who reside in the heart of the empire and may not too familiar with your client states Calgary is the heart of Canada’s oil patch and some of those oil company offices will be forced to shut down for some time this week.

  26. Zac June 24, 2013 at 9:46 am #

    Our shops seem well-stocked, until you stray off the beaten path. It happened to me a few months ago. You order something on the internet – not a mass consumption product, but not that out of the ordinary either – and receive a quick email: the product you ordered is not in stock, but is expected to ship in a couple of days. A month later, you get another automated message: the product you ordered is not in stock, but will arrive real soon now. The tentative delivery date is a month from now. You get the message the product will never ship.

    When I was a kid, my parents used to admonish me about the USSR: a country where the shops had empty shelves. It doesn’t seem so far-fetched now.

    When I was a kid, my father told me about Solzhenitsyn: a Russian who had to flee his country for telling the truth. He came to America to get his books published.

    Now I see an NSA whistleblower who flees – first to China, then to Russia – for telling the truth. What do we tell our children?

    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 12:42 pm #

      We’re having trouble getting his last book translated. Called “Two Hundred Years Together” – it’s about the relationship between Jews and Russians. It doesn’t bow down nearly low enough – talks about Jewish pogroms against Russians, etc. Think that might be the problem?

      • Zac June 24, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

        I’d like to quote you some articles from Bloomberg about Wal-mart. Let me tell you: “We run out quickly and the new stuff doesn’t come in” sounds like an excuse of an 1990 USSR shop assistant, not like something you’d expect from a 2013 Chief Executive Officer of an US multinational.

        Wal-Mart Struggles to Restock Store Shelves as U.S. Sales Slump

        “We run out quickly and the new stuff doesn’t come in,” U.S. Chief Executive Officer Bill Simon said

        Wal-Mart Customers Complain Bare Shelves Are Widespread

        Wal-Mart Plasters Stores With Green Dots to Stay Stocked

        Customers Flee Wal-Mart Empty Shelves for Target, Costco
        Margaret Hancock has long considered the local Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) superstore her one- stop shopping destination. No longer.

        During recent visits, the retired accountant from Newark, Delaware, says she failed to find more than a dozen basic items, including certain types of face cream, cold medicine, bandages, mouthwash, hangers, lamps and fabrics.

        The cosmetics section “looked like someone raided it,” said Hancock, 63.

  27. Bubbaa June 24, 2013 at 9:53 am #

    Please, James: in situ, not en situ.

  28. ccm989 June 24, 2013 at 9:54 am #

    Sorry to be the single Voice of Optimism here but maybe we are changing for the better. Here at the Jersey Shore, after cleaning up the mess Superstorm Sandy left us, seashore houses are being boosted up on piers, solar panels are going up by the thousands, the economy is growing not just by the ongoing and exhausting number of reconstruction jobs but by the economic recovery in general. Fighting off Monsanto and big oil is an endless job. They never relent in bribing Congress so we can never relent on pressuring Congress to get something done. So far, Congress has accomplished nothing good. The Supreme Court has surprisingly declared human DNA cannot be patented. Almost fell over when I read that. So the endless fight for justice, equality and liberty continues. Onward and upward. BTW the new blog format is very nice.

  29. WSHancock1864 June 24, 2013 at 9:59 am #

    Oh, ‘Zone!
    Fantasy is so much preferable to reality.

    Looked at the TV lately?

    Ghosts, bigfoots and assorted goblins abound.

    Third Worldism everywhere, and in all systems..baked into the cake.

    The dystopian novels of futures’ past come to life with amazing fidelity.

    From the Boston Marathon Op, we had out First Gestapo House-to-House AND our first blatant “Shot While Trying to Escape”.

    Operation Sheep (Google it) and all the rest, proceeding right on schedule.

    Problem is, they are racing to stay ahead of the environmental and energy problems, which drive the economic and sociopolitical Final Solutions.

    Now it’s looking like the environmental is going all non-linear, so even if the downside of The Bumpy Plateau we are perparing to slide off is slow and gradual, the environmental realities will even overtake the energy realities.

    The nonlinearity is not certain, but by the time we have enough data points, it will be a cold and horific certainty indeed.

    On the “smallest” level of The Big Picture, in Corpzi America, the Full Spectrum Prison incompletely in place, only awaiting 9/11 #2 to be born in it’s full flower, which Boston shows will be so easy and the serfs will cheer their own bludgeonings, both economic and physical.

    Enjoy, everyone. As bad as The Big Picture is in the present moment, future generations, if there are any, will still view these as part of The Good Old Days

  30. Ozzy d'Nunder June 24, 2013 at 10:13 am #

    Have you figured out what you are going to do about all the nuclear reactors when you powerdown? Better do something with all that waste before the power goes off, the diesel runs out, and the fuel rods in the waste ponds overheat? How many “no-go zones” will there be scattered across North America, Europe and China? Probably the lowest cost idea would be to dump the waste in the deepest part of the ocean while you still can. Not perfect but then nothing is.

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  31. UFIA June 24, 2013 at 10:16 am #

    JHK”s advice for the week:

    “Young people, harken: prepare for careers in agriculture and activities that support it. Consider moving to small towns in parts of the country where farming is possible and get ready to rebuild a very different economy. Also, consider repudiating your college debt en masse, since the fantasy of repayment is but another mental shackle holding you back from your future.”

    I agree with the premise but realize that it’s an odd predicament you make mention of, James. If the contraction doesn’t happen quickly enough, someone who suddenly denounces the system to try their hand at farming and generalist craftsmanship runs the risk of jeopardizing any prospects for future gainful employment; I’d love to say fuck it and work in the yard within a community of self-reliant families, but there’s still the question of property taxes and all the other fiscal inevitabilities; that idea, the pioneer of the new millennium meme, I’ve found to be rather naive.It takes some sort of lucky inheritance or rather large initial capital investment to acquire a small parcel of land to even begin thinking about trying to detach from the grid. If I should be fortunate enough to inherit some land or win the lottery, I’d sure as hell take your advice in a heartbeat, but I don’t play the lottery. Otherwise, in my present community, all the good farmland is owned by some rather territorial and subtly hostile Italian families, passed down generationally. Over the years they’ve monopolized the water rights not to mention the local commercial real estate as well. In fact, the local government facilitates the same monopoly I’ve mentioned.

    Where I live is basically a sleepy town, where everyone commutes for work an average of 40 to 160 miles daily, at least until gas hits the $5 – $6 mark, then it all gets a bit dicey. Shit, the city my college is in has to pipe water 60 miles from the town I live and is therefore in quite a pickle with regard to subsistence resources never mind cheap oil; nevertheless, real estate is beginning to thrive in both locales again. I doubt farmland owners/monopolists are going to welcome the hordes in mythical religious good will when TSHTF.

    So, “practicality” requires people of all ages not handed an easy inheritance to dutifully join the Borg collective techno-fantasy economy, ineffectually bitching and whipping dead socio-political horses while still drinking the red or blue Kool Aid in the meantime, only to become yet another sucker waiting to get slaughtered in some sort of big showdown.

    I have older relatives with meager and barely sufficient pension or retirement plans to think of, who would require much physical labor to support. While I’m fit and willing, when I look at the aged neighbors surrounding me not prepared for the end of the American delusion, I realize much of the work of my age group would have to endure would be dedicated to propping up that older group of self-infected zombies who believed everything was just fukin’ dandy in the good ol’ FUSA for the last 40+ years. Trying to care for them as a subsistence farmer is a beautiful fantasy but a fantasy nonetheless. There’s going to be a die-off whether my generation tries to mitigate it or not.

    I’m sorry to say, but I think I’m going to be forced ride the status quo train until the fukin’ wheels fall off. Maybe it will run until my elderly kin have passed, and since I haven’t burdened any new off-spring of my own with the debts run up by Boomers, then I’ll deal with the wasteland as it arrives in my later years on my own; meanwhile, no cheeze doodles for this body.

    -UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject

    • Benj Arthur June 24, 2013 at 11:19 am #

      Great post with some great points made.

      Some years ago I came to the conclusion that a die-off was inevitable. Nothing that’s happened has made me change my mind. Living on a planet of 1-2 billion wouldn’t be so bad would it?

      I’d just like to somehow ensure that the survivors are sufficiently diverse to keep things interesting. From the Amish to the Yanomamo its important that human life continues to exist in many different forms. The great tragedy of the post War era has been this headlong rush to embrace one way of doing things AKA globalization.

    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 12:47 pm #

      Well said. Ethnic Nepotism will enter your life in one form or another even if you don’t believe in it.

  32. JoeBob. June 24, 2013 at 10:22 am #

    Sorry, doomers. I know you would be happier if the bottom was falling out of the economy and you could imagine a Black Swan event was happening. But the markets are not cooperating. Things are getting better and better. More jobs being created. Housing values returning. Leading Economic Index up. Damn. And we were all hoping for a giant collapse and a civil war, complete with pitch forks and hangings!
    It is impossible to return to a medieval future … if that even makes sense.
    We can never go back to an earlier time because we have an accumulated knowledge base that will be with us which was not available in medieval times. Our quality of life will be much better, even if oil disappears tomorrow.
    For example, we have knowledge about solar energy photovoltaics, wind energy generators, etc. that medieval peoples did not. We will have lights at night with LED bulbs medieval peoples did not have.
    Go ahead, make my day. Take away oil. We have alternatives that did not exist back in medieval times

    I control the debate here since I am able to present many different points of view to facilitate substantial discussion.

    This CFN blog is much more interesting when I take the time to post here because I post on a variety of subjects, usually with correct grammar, usually concise posts, and sometimes with intelligent content. Always provocative, it seems, though not intentionally so.

    • John in Mtl June 24, 2013 at 11:21 am #

      Oh yeah? where do you get the energy to make all those things when the fuel starts running out or gets way more expensive? Are you going to build a factory for those lights? Housing values? bubbling up by institutions that have the dough to buy them 10 cents on the dollar then renting them out for outrageous prices. Jobs? Part time minimum wage Mc-job types; not much to sustain a recovery.

      Yup, they’ll think of something!

    • mike June 24, 2013 at 3:03 pm #

      I couldn’t agree more. Maybe on the east coast where Jim is things are falling apart, but certainly not out here in California, which is in the middle of one of the greatest economic booms in history. Cities getting smaller? Not Los Angeles, which is growing rapidly. Construction all over the place, especially of public transit. They’re building light rail here like crazy. You don’t see boarded up storefronts here. Vacant places go very fast. Empty malls? Not on your life. You’ll be lucky if you can find a parking space.

      As far as energy goes, it amazes me that there are people still thinking we’re dependent on fossil fuel. We already have the technology to replace it rather easily. Electric cars work and are already available. Solar energy is getting more efficient and cheaper by the minute. Alternative energy is just getting up to speed. There are a lot of things I’m worried about but energy isn’t even on the list.

      A big mistake a lot of people are making is thinking that the “country” and the federal government are the same thing. They’re not. It’s the federal government and the obsolete, archaic, useless federal union that’s falling apart, not the country. The collapse of the federal government will be the best thing that’s ever happened to this country. Especially for the economy. When (not if) California becomes independent and can stop shipping hundreds of billions of dollars to the parasites on the east coast and in the south we’ll be able to afford free healthcare, free tuition, and still be able to cut taxes.

      As far as jobs goes, what about the arts? The arts are booming. Look at Apple. Practically bankrupt when it was a tech company, but once it became an arts company (and that’s what it is; its money comes from the iTunes store, which can’t rake it in fast enough) it boomed.

      Sorry, but the Malthusians are as wrong now as they have ever been. The 21st century is going to be the most prosperous time for the world ever.

    • SticksInMyCraw June 25, 2013 at 8:16 am #

      Don’t knock JHK; he’s successfully forecast nine of the last two recessions.

  33. ront June 24, 2013 at 10:28 am #

    Were we (at least a sizable number of us) to awaken to the reality of our essential oneness with one another, and the entire universe, we would naturally be motivated to launch experimental new patterns of thinking and behaviors that would gradually replace our age old habits of treating each other as if we were nothing more than potential enemies, hated, feared, and utterly separate. A sense of brotherly and sisterly love between us would initiate the exercise of how a family interacts: with generous sharing, selfless service, kindness, affection, and reverence for what we hold in common. Living “as if” we are a family, will actually begin to strip away our illusions, those “toys” which we are hopelessly addicted to playing with, revealing to us the truth of what we are meant to know and become.

    This major attitude(s) change would automatically begin bringing to light the false valuation of things, that have conventionally been given importance and meaning undeservedly. Instead of taking important things for granted, such as: clean air, fresh water, unpolluted soil, the power of our creative minds and loving hearts, humanity would embrace its duty as humble caretakers of these essential needs. Wanting, particularly self-centered craving, would be seen for what it really is, a limitation and cause of stress and unhappiness. Basing the major part of one’s ego-identity on what one wants should be seriously reconsidered. The wise among for ages have told us and shown us that wisdom begins and ends by recognizing ignorance for what it is. A corollary to this is that certainty is very rare, and assuming one has it is merely ignorance of ignorance.

    With the current misery-inducing circumstances growing and looming, I don’t think it would take much more suffering to get the ball rolling toward humanity new enterprise. Everything we truly need is available in abundance, all that is required is to see it, find it, and live up to it.

    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 5:09 pm #

      Crazy. Crazy for feeling so lovely….

      Dude, review Baba’s fine essay on War and fine effects in can have on Consciousness. You are predicating oneness at the very level where there can none. You are confusing oneness with Oneness; love with Love. Your Tribe has sewn the seeds of this confusion to get us to drop our guard. But like a Spider that gets caught in its won web, many of the lower Tribe have become caught in the web their own Elite (and ours) have spun.

  34. steve June 24, 2013 at 10:46 am #

    Is the end of American exceptionalism really such a bad thing? I suppose the answer to that is how it comes about and it’s ultimate consequences. The current madness in a world so disordered is always doomed to end because there is nothing holding it together but the pursuit of money and its foul consequences. We no longer have a higher calling than self-aggrandizement and that’s about worth whatever the self is worth. And so the values of family, community and God have to be found anew. And they will be because that’s where human well-being is always found.
    BTW, what’s with the glorification of a mafia thug – the ultimate anti-hero?

  35. NSA June 24, 2013 at 10:58 am #

    We have a very astute Canadian Affairs dept here at the agency in Langley. In the near term, we see Canada as a compliant US colony supplying cheap energy and resources…..Harper has to call DC to get permission to flush his toilet. Our Canadian colony will be politically incorporated into the US by the year 2050, based on the need for unfettered access to the arctic oil and gas fields. By 2050, there will be 500 million americans…..the pressure for liquid fuels to power the national security state will be immense and irresistible. Efforts are under way to convert their political and economic structure into a north-south , rather than east-west, flow. These efforts have been quite successful, with the three western provinces fully americanized already, and in a free election would vote for US statehood as long as they are allowed to retain their hockey teams and walmart shopping privileges, eh.

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    • John in Mtl June 24, 2013 at 11:27 am #

      In the 80’s I thought it was a good idea to “sell” Canada to the US and become 10 more states. Ask me today if I feel the same…

      When I was a kid and marveled at all that American know-how, justice and equality for all, I used to think it was one of the greatest places and nations on earth. Ask me today if I feel the same…

  36. Beantownbill June 24, 2013 at 10:59 am #

    Computers, social media, virtual worlds and other hi-tech stuff are the future, whether we like it or not. We ain’t going back, for better or worse. People just aren’t gonna return to the 1800’s. Once you’ve seen the promised land, you don’t turn around and head back to Egypt.

    As far as computers are concerned, they weren’t meant to produce jobs, they were meant to eliminate them. The future has no place for jobs.

    We need to develop a new life-paradigm, to learn how to have meaning in one’s life without work.

    How will we stay alive with no job and no money? Sorry, I can’t answer the question, I can’t solve every problem. But I do know you can’t undo knowledge once it’s let out of the box. The digital world, in one form or another, is here to stay as long as our civilization lasts, be it 5 years or 500.

    • rhino June 24, 2013 at 1:46 pm #

      No free lunches, not now, not ever. Somebody pays. So the only way you can stay alive without a job and without money is if somebody else pays. The trouble with this scheme is that other people are loathe to part with their own income, which they deem to be their own because they earned it themselves, and give it to others.

      It seems magical that food appears on grocery store shelves, that water comes from the tap when you want it, that lights come on with the flick of a switch. But none of it is magic and people have to apply a great deal of effort to make all this happen. No free lunches IOW.

      Computers may have been meant to eliminate jobs but if you, in aggregate, eliminate jobs, you eliminate the income of the people formerly in those jobs. So how do these formerly employed people eat, how do they get shelter?

      The upper crust of the economic and financial elite had better devote a bit of their precious time to cracking this problem. Because there’s nothing as dangerous as idle hands, especially when those idle hands belong to an unemployed, unmarried young man. We’ve been down this road within living memory and the results were not good to say the least.

      And given that self interest is the driving force for this upper crust I would encourage them to consider their own actions the next time they do a corporate bloodletting for the sake of boosting the company share price, or do an offshoring to China for the sake of reducing labor costs. Those “costs” are somebody else’s income and if you eliminate that income you eliminate demand for the products those formerly employed workers used to make.

    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 5:12 pm #

      Give this man a cigar. They have to give us all enough to live on even as Spider used to rave. Of course such a stipend will merely provide the bare minimum – so most people will still want to work and things will still get done, etc. Having a job will become a bit of a status symbol in and of itself.

    • A Chap June 24, 2013 at 10:36 pm #

      I agree with some of your sentiment here. I think it’s naive to assume that the “simplified” (post-abundant oil) future will look like colonial life. It’s also naive to think that things can go on as they have been. The future will look like a hybrid of the two: arduino controllers used in small scale local farming setups, home soldering rigs, hydro-powered precise lathes—heck, maybe even a system of google-style weather balloons that spread a larger-than-local post-collapse internet.

      The truth is that we don’t know will happen, but there is a certain level of technology that can exist in a low-energy future, and I’m willing to bet that it’s higher than what’s envisioned by JHK. I agree with the “cats out of the bag” appraisal–we know that feats of technology are possible, and we’ll figure out how to make some things work in a low-energy world. All this might even bring the future Nikola Teslas out of the woodwork.

  37. Steve June 24, 2013 at 11:00 am #

    “Canada? There’s an idea. Maybe Labrador becomes the new Hamptons? Second biggest national land mass… 30 million people (2 percent of China’s population). Only one drawback: the view to the south.”

    The view to the south – bada-BING, bada-BOOM! 😀

  38. Piper Michael June 24, 2013 at 11:11 am #

    James,
    Wonderful prose this morning, back on track for Peak everything.

    As I have stated and you basically put the meat to, we have arrived at the point of Systemic Irrationality, where normalcy bias became cognitive dissonance and has now morphed into a systemic disease.

    This is the road to the Twilight Zone, fueled by Hope. Hope is the killer. Hope makes a man stand staring at the boulder rolling down the hill right towards him. Hope keeps his feet planted, hoping against hope that the boulder will somehow bounce away from him. Hope keeps you doing the things you’re doing, hoping things will get better.

    Hope is pablum sold by the media in their standard mantra of happy happy joy joy. Ignorance is the mistress of hope, and together, they stand ready to take down civilization as we know it. The laws of thermodynamics cannot be beaten, but perhaps we have found a way to cheat Mother Nature, just a little.

    If there is any true hope, it is not a total degeneration of civilization and knowledge driven by a full on retreat into barbarism, but a new way of thinking driven by a breakthrough, that is the Unified Field. That is the key, the Source and the Driver of all things.

    Now tap your heels together three times, and repeat after me;
    “There are no such thing as particles…”

  39. Benj Arthur June 24, 2013 at 11:14 am #

    One of the few guys in the world who truly gets it. Great digest as ever Jim. Thank you.

  40. sevenmmm June 24, 2013 at 11:40 am #

    I think Russia survives as they have plenty of resources plus many of those people are already self-reliant, or were raised in a self-reliant household.

    China still has an ace-in-the-hole; the credit card to play. Allowing a billion people access to credit will keep the economy/government floating for a time.

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  41. Gregor MacGregor June 24, 2013 at 11:49 am #

    I agree on most points but not with the whole article in aggregate. The point that seems to be missing is that we live in a finite world of investment potential i..e the cleanest dirty shirt argument. Investment will have to flow into something and all that it will boil down to are the relative relationships of all these fundamentally screwed economies. Also…I think this talk of China is somewhat too negative. While I am bearish on the country in the short term due to structural inefficiencies which come from the fact that it is CHINA…this will have to change and change it will…maybe with some misallocation of credit and resources, corruption etc… but the growth of the middle class still makes it an attractive prospect.

  42. Marcus June 24, 2013 at 11:53 am #

    Didn’t realize JHK had changed his website I kept checking the old one thinking something had happened to him glad I’m wrong. I struggle to remember a time when all three asset classes namely Bonds, Commodities & equities were selling off at the same time. Bond yields have been rising steadily since May & now there are signs of capital flight in the emerging markets. I have Orlav down as a fast crash man, John Michael Greer as a slow carbolic crash man & James how would you describe yourself in this equation?

  43. Hammer June 24, 2013 at 12:14 pm #

    Yeah like that fucking NBC shill, David Gregory, who had the gall to ask Greenwald why he shouldn’t be prosecuted for aiding and abetting Snowden on his escape. He calls himself a journalist. What a joke. Real journalists like Greenwald need to be cherished by all Americans. This cynic and skeptic certainly does. I voted for that fuckhead in the white house back in 2008 but abstained from voting for anyone in 2012. Now I hope my wife, friends and family who kept urging me to suck it up and vote for him anyway finally understand why I couldn’t.

  44. Ben Bochner June 24, 2013 at 12:17 pm #

    There is nothing quite so re-assuring as a dose of Kuntsler Doom on a Monday morning. I always check in with a cup of coffee to make sure the world is still ending.

    And sure enough – global destruction is always looming ever larger on the horizon, painted in vivid colors by the great JHK. There are many gems this week, perhaps none better than his down rating for South America – “spreading jungles (or desertification, take your pick).” That’s JHK in a nutshell – SOMETHING bad is gonna happen…I just don’t know exactly what it is.

    As long as we’re getting to take our pick, I vote for a nasty monsoon of Oobleck, that sticky green stuff that falls from the skies in the Dr. Suess book. That’d be a funny twist for the whole end-of-the-world thing.

    Anyway, what makes a Kuntsler Klatch so endearing is the fact that he is ALWAYS wrong. He’s like a character in a Kurt Vonnegut book – a guy who carves out a nice little niche for himself spinning Doom Porn for a bunch of nervous nellies titillating themselves with tales of their own demise.

    Nietzsche – “The thought of suicide is a great consolation: by means of it one gets through many a dark night.”

  45. Thaddeus Thurston Thistlethwaite III June 24, 2013 at 12:17 pm #

    “The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.”
    – George Orwell

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    • Daryl Dixon June 24, 2013 at 2:25 pm #

      Basically i thought that Orwell’s books were meant to be a warning of what not to do, the dollar store fascists running things seem to think they were a blueprint for action.

  46. Brent Eamer June 24, 2013 at 12:18 pm #

    James, you are welcome to Canada anytime. I would gladly sit and chat, much like you and Duncan. Over a single malt Scotch; Say Cardhu or Bowmore

  47. Tom Robinson June 24, 2013 at 12:53 pm #

    Note to anyone with a student loan: Don’t take JHK’s advice to default if you can possibly avoid it. That’s like committing perpetual financial suicide, because the accumulating interest and penalty charges continue to grow in perpetuity…or at least until you’re dead, and can never be discharged in bankruptcy. It’s better to forego higher education entirely than default on loans. With all due respect to JHK (and I respect him greatly), he’s already got a house, land, car etc. and therefore can propose defaulting on an obligation that would result in making the very things he’s got impossible.
    Stop urging students to default en masse, Mr. Kunstler. At this point it’s irresponsible. When the economy finally implodes it will happen of its own accord, but until then it’s far better to abide by the law. I should know: I learned the hard way!

  48. Jimmy June 24, 2013 at 2:09 pm #

    “author, social critic, public speaker, and blogger” (from wiki).
    Why not “community organizer”?

    And. of course a jew.

    Like any “chosen one has” no idea what he is saying, just butt load of self admiration.

    For me, as Russian, this is the funniest part:

    “On the plus side, Russia’s government is not crippled by idiot squabbles over abortion, gay marriage, and the Bible in schools.”

    It is as opposite to a reality as what Obammer says.

    Just last week they passed a law against “gay propaganda”.
    Year or so ago – mandatory “orthodox studies” in public schools.

    Do you, at least, know where Russia is?

    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 5:15 pm #

      Are the Pussy Riot girls Jewish? I support Putin in his defence of Russia against such violence. People here forget how much the Church suffered under Communism. And those Americans who remember do so gleefully, wishing to to do the same.

  49. Daryl Dixon June 24, 2013 at 2:21 pm #

    So is it goinig to wind up like Mad Max, or The Walking Dead?

  50. Bob June 24, 2013 at 2:26 pm #

    Trying to hold on to beliefs and ideologies, whose time has long past is getiing harder to sell. To survive and maybe even thrive the money based price systems would have to be replaced by social operations in which the laws of science and its resulting technology would be applied directly to achieve balance and sustainability. It was always touted that the free enterprise capitalist system ,maybe not perfect but it beats everything else. Hold on to those beliefs maybe you will win the lottery.Maybe the aging baby boomer will get one more cruise. The politician and the economist will keep you dancing to the left and right This can be called the status quo ground of virtual reality suitable for your character structure as to alleviate your anxieties and rage. It is sad given the greatness of America that we are well on the journey into strange dangerous psychotic territory .

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  51. anon June 24, 2013 at 2:50 pm #

    “Hark, hark, the angels do sing!” Has anyone noticed the absence of internecine bickering among CFNer’s? Where are the spiteful goons in this week’s comments’ section? For a time their awful drivel drove me out of the CFN neighborhood. Has Jim purchased a software application which filters-out noise & limits disruptive commenters from wasting column inches? Thanx, Jim, love your weekly column and look forward to it every Monday morning!

  52. NSA June 24, 2013 at 3:16 pm #

    If those stupid civilian nitwits in DC had allowed us to handle the Snowden debacle, instead of being outwitted by an adolescent dreamer idealist….the results would have been more satisfactory. Look at how we got rid of Petraeus and McCrystal, and then dispensed with the patsy Hastings……shades of Lee Harvey don’t you agree? Now we have to put up with the little twit thumbing his nose at us from some taco hell hole….fortunately we have our high level assets in all the media outlets to smear the little fool….. Fortunately, all the leftie useful idiots have fallen right into line with a little prompting from la senorita Graham and that clapped out old goat McCain…….. This is just too easy…….

    • DOG MEAT June 24, 2013 at 11:51 pm #

      Well USA is fucked and even apple stores are fucked.

      But to suggest the rest of the world is fucked, …

      JIM get off the fucking FARM and go see the world,

      ASIA is booming right now,… life is good, most places have less than 1% un-employment.

      I concur that CHINA has minor problem, hell I live here, but JIM please note that here in KUNMING that they about 5+ years ago BANNED gas motorcycles and such its all electric in many places,…

      I think you NOT have a fucking clue about the world outside of your little pretend world.

      Also quit the fucking 1970’s peak-oil shit, .. we didn’t know shit in 1970 about what was under our footsteps.

      The only reason that fuel is expensive is that the CARTEL’s want it that way, …

      The USA may have the guns and nukes and print fake money, but they don’t have the clout to control the CARTEL’s.

      The USA ain’t fucked because expensive OIL, its fucked cuz the people are lazy and rotten to the fucking bone, and all on welfare either cop or ho. Good jobs were off-shored long ago, and all that remains in the USA is an unwanted mass of tissue that MUST be eliminated.

      The secret government in the USA has a big problem, … how to kill 300 Million souls, … but its not your problem if you don’t live there.

  53. Expat June 24, 2013 at 3:39 pm #

    Great writing, JHK.

    If any CFNers believe things are bad and getting worse in the USA, join the people who are escaping from America:

    http://www.FleeAmerica

    FleeAmerica will help you plan an exit strategy.

    There are lots of places without constant government surveillance, without drone bombers flying over and threatening you; places with a better quality of life than the USA.

    • bearfoot June 25, 2013 at 11:44 am #

      your easy livin’ future in a third world country is even shorter than it’ll be here in amurika!+-

  54. rube-i-con June 24, 2013 at 3:56 pm #

    Anyway, what makes a Kuntsler Klatch so endearing is the fact that he is ALWAYS wrong.

    woohoo, glad to see others out here who laff at kunstler’s ghastly ability to predict anything. he touts himself as a great mind at putting together what’s (in his mind) really happening on a tectonic scale, yet is batting about .069.

    and at the same time has the chutzpah to lambaste others as stupid.
    what a wretched ineffectual man.

    there are many points to be refuted this week. his understanding of europe’s extremely advanced solar-wind-alternative energy success is mindboggling.

    he’ll keep saying “they can’t replace oil” until they effectively do – THEY ARE ALREADY DOING IT to a significant extent, maybe 15-25%. so don’t tell me that’s not success, kunstler.

    it is the nature of the western human mind to find answers to puzzles and challenges. name one epoch in which we have not advanced in terms of energy sources/availability. when the whale oil ran out we found petroleum. we have nuclear, which is essentially limitless. we will harness the sun on orbital platforms. don’t think so? you luddites out here didnt think we would ever harness nuclear either, or a whole palette of other technlogies. tons of essentially free and clean energy is underneath us, all we need to do is drill down to it (geothermal).

    this end of the world shtick is soooo tiresome. “my best advice is to learn to farm”. how LAFFABLE. and his nonchalant dismissal of south america (spreading jungle or desert, take your pick). what fact is this based on, other than jkh’s wish for everything to get worse? south america has gotten tons better politically and economically in the last few decades. where the fuck have you been?

    if you have a technical skill, getting a job is fairly easy. but not for shitheads that major in gender studies and literature, yes, that’s you.

    lots of other easy refutations to make, will check in from time to time to tell you the good news.

    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 5:27 pm #

      The new Matt Damon movie is about just that. But you see, all those improvements will be for the few. The many will go down. No more middle class. No more Mr Nice White Guys. We are going hunting – hunting anything that moves in non flannel or be it Gucci, Feather, Fur, or Leather. The Maori drink blood right from the juglar vein of their cattle. Anyone try this yet? The Mongols powered their army on horse blood and dried yogurt.

      What are the riots about btw? Surprisingly, the crowds seem to be mostly middle class and Caucasoid. Things can’t be that good.

      • K L June 24, 2013 at 7:37 pm #

        That is the Masai who drink blood not the Moari, Kenya and New Zealand are oceans apart, no similarity whatsoever.

        • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 8:20 pm #

          I knew that inside but the wrong answer came out. St Paul said the good I know and I don’t do. And the evil that I wouldn’t do, I do.

          You misspelled Maori. People usually make a mistake when they correct another. This principle may have self defence applications.

          • K L June 25, 2013 at 11:58 pm #

            That was a typo. My phone is very temperamental when it comes to corrections.

        • bearfoot June 25, 2013 at 11:49 am #

          new zealand has effectively assimilated the moari they no longer exist as a ‘pure’ people!

  55. Dr. George W. Oprisko June 24, 2013 at 5:14 pm #

    In 76, I bought the song and a farm. Those were heady days, the Mother Earth News was not a decade old, communes were the rage, and many of us, simply wanted a quiet life after the war.

    Not 3 years later, some clown from a money center bank convinced a peanut farmer at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, that the agricultural sector could be ‘pruned’ a little for the grand goal of starving the USSR into submission ala Afghanistan.

    The Russians didn’t starve, they simply planted larger gardens, but the young farmers went bankrupt in droves. The farmer of the year as appointed by “Successful Farming” magazine in 1980, killed his banker, his wife, his children, and himself a year later. Ditto for the selectee in 81, ditto for the selectee in 82.

    In 83, Reagan finally gave farmers relief, in the form of loans that is. Definitely no help with price supports, no mitigation of the losses imposed by the embargo. No sir! We need free markets you see.. . .

    Now we have a syncophant telling the ignorant, or the niave, that it’s time to leave the city for the country. For a world made by hand. Powered by what? Using what raw materials for their hoes, spades, and garden forks????

    To protect this sage we have an actuary who can’t or won’t count, and a peak oil rag using a drum as it’s logo totally disinterested in alternatives to BAU.

    If you hunt ducks, you know early on that you can’t and won’t hit anything by shooting behind it. You have to lead it. Same with renewable energy. All forms are investing heavily in new and more efficient methods, which are coming to market every year. So, if you based your analysis on things as they were in 2000, you have about as much chance of being on the ball as a snow ball in hell has a chance of survival.

    Don’t think so?

    In 2000, according to An Empirical Perspective on the Energy Payback Time for Photovoltaic Mocules by Karl E. Knapp and Theresa L. Jester, Solar 2000, Madison, June 2000

    5600 kwh of inputs was required to create a Kwe of PV.

    Today it’s 1725 kwh.

    In 2000 the EROEI of PV, FOB plant was ~8 assuming the panels were emplaced near Purdue University, and today it’s ~32.

    The EROEI of Nat Gas at the well head is ~8, and if converted into electricity, by the time it hits your meter it’s ~1.2.

    So, if you don’t want a “world made by hand” together with the famine that goes with it, what to do?

    You could economise, you could use rail transport, you could put PV on every suitable roof in the country.

    But, fantasizing about living in a Maori hut, digging purple yams for food appeals.

    Why?

    Because you assume there is a virgin place full of timber suitable for building, and timber sufficient for firewood, and land sufficient for growing the yams.

    Only problem.. . .

    Those places have been taken.

    INDY

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    • K Linnell June 24, 2013 at 7:28 pm #

      Dear Doctor. The moari don’t drink the blood of cattle, last time I looked New Zealand was full of sheep, nor do they live in huts. Why this fascination with shooting anything that moves? Why don’t you go and study permaculture and get a little common sense? MacOttir

      • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 8:29 pm #

        No, I meant to say the Masai do and that it might be an idea worth looking into since the animal need not be killed by this. Hunting will happen since people crave the protein and the Strength that it gives. And as we know from ancient Australia and Central America, when there are no animals to eat, other things become mouth watering; vittles that one cannot raise nor buy.

        I’m not talking about myself or any of us: we are above such things. But some of our dark brothers, not so much.

        • wheres asoka June 24, 2013 at 11:50 pm #

          I wuz listening to AM Radio today. Mandela wrote a book:
          http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/how-to-be-a-good-communist-nelson-mandela/1026101351?ean=2940021380362

          He is a millionaire, maybe multimillionaire. Feted by nitwits like Beyonce and Bono.
          His kin have a reality show. [Meet The Mandelas?].

          • bearfoot June 25, 2013 at 11:57 am #

            you just think you’re ‘above such things’… when the ‘going’ is gone, you’ll be right in there eating ANYTHING edible!

        • Dr. George W. Oprisko June 25, 2013 at 5:00 am #

          More rubbish!

          A man who has never lived in either NZ or Africa telling
          an old hand things he knows.

          So Jaego, when do you leave? Do you really think the Masai will take you in?

          Which chief will give you grazing rights? Where?

          Meanwhile, the EROEI of PV panels FOB plant is ~32!!

          R-15/R-20 windows are available in the market! Today!

          You could convert your existing house to PassivHaus, and put 6 Kwe of PV on it, and NaS batteries on a slab in your garden, and run efficient holdover refrigeration.

          But that takes work!

          In the real world!

          Which means leaving fantasy land!

          INDY

          • Meri June 25, 2013 at 10:21 am #

            Can you build a lake dock with PV panels? One that makes electricity, but a man can walk on?

  56. ProgressorConserve June 24, 2013 at 6:23 pm #

    I had to laugh out loud today. It seems the blacks keep insisting that the only reason people are upset about Eric Snowdan leaking everything about the NSA is that it happened under Obama. They keep repeating, “where was you’re outrage when Dubya started all this?” Typical! On a related note, it looks like our CON gress is again selling us down the ole river with the Immigration Bill. I urge everyone to support Numbers USA! Stop the madness of open borders!

    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 8:24 pm #

      Genocide Watch places South Africa’s genocide against Whites at stage 6, preparation. The next two stages are execution and denial. Many have said it will commence with the death of Mandela – a “moderate” who also used to sing the Kill the Boer song. Imagine, a Terrorist is a moderate – that’s how bad the situation is. As your post shows, race is EVERYTHING with Blacks.

      http://patdollard.com/2012/07/genocide-watch-issues-alert-south-africa-in-early-stages-of-white-genocide/

    • wheres asoka June 24, 2013 at 11:51 pm #

      In the Army its called ‘Unit Cohesion’. Ethnic solidarity at work.

  57. ProgressorConserve June 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm #

    Nice to see either Carol Newquist, aka Asoka, aka Adequatio, has either been run off by Jim or perhaps being bikini waxed…lol!

  58. ProgressorConserve June 24, 2013 at 6:33 pm #

    Good to see Beantown Bill back, as well as BeingThere, formerly lbend, rubicon is back and snarky as ever, bless him. Vlad/Jaego here, big hello to all. Sorry if I missed anyone.

  59. Carol Newquist June 24, 2013 at 6:55 pm #

    So is it goinig to wind up like Mad Max, or The Walking Dead?

    Neither. More like The Truman Show.

    • DOG MEAT June 25, 2013 at 12:15 am #

      I would agree with that, much of the USA is now like the Truman show, but more like ‘stepford wives’ on the truman show.

      Sure 1/2M folks in the USA have a security clearance and get to watch the truman-show, but for the other 300M living in TS, and living like stepford-wives, …

      They know something is wrong but don’t have a clue.

      I think more like 12-monkeys, or Brazil, is the current USA.

      MadMax and Walking-Dead is far in the future, near time right now is step-ford wives, and the folks at the NSA/CIA are like the assholes in 12-monkeys from the future.

  60. Carol Newquist June 24, 2013 at 7:00 pm #

    Good to see Beantown Bill back, as well as BeingThere, formerly lbend, rubicon is back and snarky as ever, bless him. Vlad/Jaego here, big hello to all. Sorry if I missed anyone.

    Shove it up your fat ass, you racist, deep-fried pork rind. Go somewhere else. No one wants you here. No one wants you alive. You’re not wanted in this life, or on this planet. Leave now. Let there be peace on earth; a peace that was meant to be. Let us walk with our brothers, in peace, eternally. Let peace begin with you; meaning you being gone….forever and ever, amen.

    Beef, it’s what’s for dinner.

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    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 8:30 pm #

      How would you like to eat Prog?

  61. Carol Newquist June 24, 2013 at 7:06 pm #

    Nice to see either Carol Newquist, aka Asoka, aka Adequatio, has either been run off by Jim or perhaps being bikini waxed…lol!

    I’m still here. I’ve been busy preparing those 11 million to be your new neighbors. Guess who’s coming to dinner? That’s right, your new masters. Suck on that, you rancid pulled pork sandwich on moldy Wonder bread.

  62. Carol Newquist June 24, 2013 at 7:09 pm #

    I had to laugh out loud today.

    Really? You? I hope you didn’t give yourself a hernia. All that undigested red meat in your intestines has no where to go but sideways.

  63. Carol Newquist June 24, 2013 at 7:15 pm #

    There are lots of places without constant government surveillance, without drone bombers flying over and threatening you; places with a better quality of life than the USA.

    Yeah, like the sun.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsYlU-fGx3M

    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 9:12 pm #

      Why shouldn’t being with bodies of fire live and love on the Sun Planet? The Sun has storms and cloudy days just like here. His Climate controls ours, not Al Gore.

    • Dr. George W. Oprisko June 25, 2013 at 5:08 am #

      Like Namibia, NZ, Samoa, Tahiti, Wallis, Fiji, Solomons, New Guinea, HK, Mongolia, Russia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, RSA, Madagascar, St. Helena, Brazil, Ecuador, Panama, Nicaragua, Colombia, Venezuela, Peru.

      Lots of the above don’t bother.

      As for Obama, he is a typical post-colonial black. He learned how to wear a suit well, and how to look important behind a desk. There is nothing between his ears except vacuum.

      You voted for him, I didn’t.

      The EROEI of PV panels, FOB plant is ~32, today!

      R-15/R-20 windows are available today!

      You could stop the banalities and get your ass in gear and convert your dwelling to PassivHaus and put 6kwe of Pv on it’s roof and NaS batteries in your garden, You do have one, don’t you?

      But bitching takes little effort,

      INDY

      • bearfoot June 25, 2013 at 12:05 pm #

        racist pig!

  64. UFIA June 24, 2013 at 8:40 pm #

    Thanks to ‘Zone for playing the role of a modern day Revere and feeding me a database of journalistic bookmarks to peruse daily.

    I’ll have one for everyone else below.

    I share this link because I find it rather comical that neither China or Russia deem it terribly urgent to help the U.S. bring a first and fourth amendment crusader/criminal(?) to “Justice.” Talk about PR blowback for the Obama regime.

    Anyway, I’ll go out on a limb and say that if this guy is extradited, then it means the end of the whistle-blower phenomenon in this country altogether, no? Although, a question came to mind: If you’re one who still holds hope for a people’s revolution I wonder whether this man’s continued evasion services that hope by encouraging other dissenters with stronger, more damning information to defect, or, if Snowden’s sure to be well-publicized prosecution might muster enough sheeple’s outrage to turn sign misspelling and hand waiving activists into mobilized “by any means necessary” Molotov Cocktail launchers?

    I personally believe that neither will occur regardless of Snowden’s continued evasion or assured conviction, but it does raise the question of whether there is a government wielded face slap yet to be delivered to the con-citi-sumer-zens hard enough to wheedle a meaningful reaction.

    And sorry, I know this is last week’s fodder, but the return to farming topic won’t mean anything until some sort of natural or social cataclysm occurs. I have a feeling JHK picked this topic because at this time in the season my garden too is thriving and giving me a sort of boost and pride in self-sufficiency that is important to feel amid all the unmistakable entropy and phony economic renewal.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35411.htm

    UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject

    • Jaego June 24, 2013 at 9:09 pm #

      Even some Liberals are beginning to wake up: Pelosi was booed for supporting the persecution of Snowden – a name rich in English History. Some dim realization that both Parties are the same is beginning to hit the Liberal Masses. The same in the sense that they both serve the Secret Government. They may reject this intuition for the familiar trodden paths of self righteousness.

      A few are even remembering that Obama campaigned against Bush’s spying on American Citizens. And as Prog said, some will just use this memory to attack Obama critics.

      Are you willing to relocate? There is rich, cheap land in Argentina. And the climate! Por favor! South America is a gentler land by and large than North America. Statistics show Missouri is the worst, liable to get blizzards, floods, and tornadoes.

      • ProgressorConserve June 24, 2013 at 9:29 pm #

        It’s true that some of the liberals are beginning to snap out of there Obama worship mode long enough to notice that not everything is sounding quite right to their ear. But wait till our Messiah in Waiting, Mr. “Hope and Change” sings his next song about how he’s protecting us for our own good and how the government would never, ever, ever use the information they have against their own citizens. It’s another reason why we’re proud to be Americans and probably why those terrorists in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Yemen, …hate us…they hate our freedoms.

      • fuckhead June 24, 2013 at 11:09 pm #

        Yep,… Silicon Valley is campaign money for OBAMA

        SV makes its money selling SPYWARE (HW&SW)

        The only people left with CASH to spend is NSA/CIA, … they print the money for free, all they want,

        Heard of LICENSE TO KILL? Well the NSA has a license to print, and they’re spending 10’s of billions in SV, and much goes back to OBAMA for votes.

        Now the funny thing is that OBAMA is minor league compared to the secret government, since they took out JFK, these guys know they’re dog meat.

        If the US president is dog-meat, what does that say for US JOE PUBLIK?

    • ozone June 25, 2013 at 9:34 am #

      Yes, UFIA, a revealing article that puts the ‘influence’ of the FUSA in context. Here’s the part that shows how little many people have read about the ‘particulars’ and are making a bunch of assumptions about how much power is available for application:

      “Obama administration officials revealed that federal judges in the eastern district of Virginia secretly issued a warrant for Snowden’s arrest on 14 June on charges of unauthorized disclosure of classified information and theft of government property. Multiple US government agencies worked extensively behind the scenes to convince Hong Kong to arrest and extradite Snowden on a warrant also issued on 14 June. But not even a phone call on 19 June placed by attorney general Eric Holder to his Hong Kong counterpart convinced Hong Kong to comply with the US request.”

      Right there you can see that the AG of the FUSA has already been thoroughly dissed. patronized, lied to and punked. This ‘administration’ has been (quite properly) rebuffed for the paper tiger and gross hypocrite that it is. ‘Bout time; abusing one’s creditors is never a smart move. (I’m not sure we realize the oriental concept of “loss of face” here, and the diplomatic weight that it carries.)

      On the other subject of the populace being either completely cowed or pushed into a revolutionary fervor, I agree with you. Neither the requisite privation or the level of fear has been ratcheted to a high enough degree to cause either outcome. It’s certain that the gum’mint is aware of these factors and equations, and is engaged in a very precarious balancing act as we speak.

      These points are being missed (either willfully or unintentionally) all over the demographic map. Having seen much of the world, I’ve seen this delicate balance of privation and fear in everyday living. This country and most of its’ public have no idea what’s bearing down on them and how they’ll [predictably] react. Insulation and exceptionalism breed ignorance, complacency and stupidity; dangerous brew indeed.

      • UFIA June 25, 2013 at 11:20 am #

        Ozone, you always bump the analysis up a notch and that’s why I pester for your expounding so frequently. Thanks for the assist!

        I didn’t understand why so many thought Snowden would be harshly interrogated, possibly even tortured, for whatever information he might have. He’s being treated like a refugee and a celebrity – the type of hero worship that the seemingly deviant Assange could’nt quite handle. As I mentioned before, we’ll see if Snowden’s integrity holds.

        I also didn’t understand why so many initially dismissed the NSA scandal as relatively nonthreatening because, after all, the gov is so desperately incompetent ;>). If that were true, then the populace wouldn’t be so thoroughly cowed as you mention. Now, those same dismissals have turned Snowden symbolism into a political football. However, I still maintain that unless high level defections occur, then the Snowden phenomenon will dissipate. While I agree that the government desires to punish and make an example of the man, I don’t think they fear the public as much as some might suspect. Their more interested in sending a message to status quo functionaries actually perpetrating these “crimes” more than anything. Asoka – take notice that if you grow a conscious and decide to do something humane with your life you might have to pay the ultimate price. Got balls?

        Honestly, over 300 million firearms loose in this country and not a single dignitary has been inconvenienced, to say the least, despite outlandish examples of corruption too numerous to mention. Like someone bleated last night, Americans know more about the Paula Deen controversy and Wendy whoever- the-fuck’s feelings about the matter are instead of what they themselves ought to do about the runaway tyranny in the U.S. Ironic that that person really does know all about the PD nonsense, while I can’t say the same. And of course, the usual idiots are missing the real opportunity to see the landscape and what’s on the horizon in favor of thumbing their noses at their R vs D foes; again, an example of a completely cowed and ineffectual populace.

        All in all, I don’t personally think Snowden revealed all that much. Instead what’s happening is that the media are being forced to connect several other dots that produce a much broader and more revealing picture of the whole government secrecy scandal. This possibly is a tectonic shift in media efficacy, but only time will tell. Just as I earlier suspected, Snowden’s rather ingenious move to seek asylum from America’s most fabled arch rivals makes him a bit of a PR treasure to those countries. He couldn’t be more safe.

        It’s possible that we’re watching several popular media memes evaporate as this romanticism about America’s phony triumphalism/exceptionalism post WWII and its economic dominance proceeding the fall of the Iron Curtain are being tested in new ways. But the brainwashing runs too deep, I suspect. Looks like the comic book movie manufacturers have some work to do.

        -UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject

        • HopelessAboutChange June 26, 2013 at 11:27 am #

          “I don’t think they fear the public as much as some might suspect.”

          This government has no fear of the public for very good reasons.

          First, the public is, as you imply, cowed. They aren’t going to rise up and risk arrest with the accompanying loss of employment and insurance.

          Second, they don’t either down have to run for office again, or they are in a Gerrymandered safe district.

          Third, if by some miracle an uprising did occur, they would be protected by (in order) the police, the national guard, the army and finally private mercenary outfits like the former Blackwater.

  65. Jaego June 24, 2013 at 9:02 pm #

    Buck, are you there? We need your wisdom. Someone just corrected me (correctly), but in so doing, made a mistake himself. I find this a common occurrence. Can you explain this in terms of Tai Chi fighting theory? Does the righteous defender have the upper hand? By trying to put oneself above does one put oneself below and thus uproot oneself from the good earth?

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    • DOG MEAT June 24, 2013 at 11:38 pm #

      taji-ji means ‘extremely extreme’

      fighting is ‘chuan’ boxing

      tai-ji-chuan is about yielding, Taoism essentially

      Yielding in the USA will get you fucked in the arse and quick.

      No Taoism can protect you from the Devil ( bush/obama/clinton ), … nada impossible,

      No where to hide, no civil disobedience, … probably suicide is the only safe way out of plantation-usa. Which is why so many today choose that evac route.

      Here in CHINA its well known that bullshit walks and money(gold) talks, long ago real GONG-FU ( hard work ) master’s tai-ji or whatever, hsing-yi, bagwa, were all paid in gold to teach the riches bastard children.

      Today all ‘masters’ are lazy hard-drinking, smoking fucks’, and certainly today NOBODY in Asia gives their gold to any fucking master, …

      Now in the USA of course its completely different PT-BARNUM is alive and well in the USA collecting money for training BS to morons.

      So if the birthplace of tai-ji is DEAD, then what say that about the ‘fake’?

      Certainly any form of meditation ( yoga or tai-ji ) is better than watching TV, so one can in theory ‘hide’ from the modern western world …. but eventually you must eat.

      Well go to myanmar or laos and live in a temple for free forever, … its possible, and most likely because there is no electronics you never have to fear being ‘watched’.

      But finding inner peace in the USA, ain’t going to fucking happen, cuz its all about WHORES collecting money, … the real thing is always FREE.

      • wheres asoka June 25, 2013 at 12:01 am #

        ‘Today all ‘masters’ are lazy hard-drinking, smoking fucks’, and certainly today NOBODY in Asia gives their gold to any fucking master, …’
        Long ago I knew an acupuncturist who had financed one ‘Master Nis’ move from china to USA. Master Ni [rumor has it] was into black magic and psychic vampirism of young gals Chi.
        He did charge for lessons, in Gold. Someone gave him a house on Malibu beach. His sons have a thriving acupuncture school [all that gov student loan $] and medical practice. Brittany Spears is or was a client for acupuncture of theirs.

  66. Mike Moskos June 24, 2013 at 9:21 pm #

    One thing no one seems to brought up yet about local food production is that so much of it is illegal, thanks to our suburban-style zoning laws.

    Here in Florida, a state rumored to be really behind in local food, the State has been steadily removing laws. We have a raw milk law, a cottage food law, and they are working on something for poultry and eggs. But, try to grow food on an empty lot in the city. Fine, but to sell any of that food is verboten. We have a huge beef industry, but animals have to go out of state to be slaughtered, thus explaining why Florida pastured beef is more expensive than other states. On and on, the local laws go. The situation is the title of one of Joel Salatin’s books, “Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal.” Local officials, accustomed to eating most meals in restaurants, don’t even recognize there is a problem. It is absolutely off their radar. Everyone must be like them; even the poor must prefer corporate cooked food. The poor just need those electric scooters to move around cause they like Cheese Doodles the best.

    Almost every day, I ride the bus through one of Miami’s poorest neighborhoods, built by the progressives to get the poor out of their crowded, dirty neighborhood just north of downtown. The bus passes the first public housing project built in the U.S., built during Roosevelt’s administration. The area is called a “food desert,” but despite all the empty land growing weeds, there are virtually no gardens growing food. Why? Local laws prohibit it. And, as for the land right around the houses/apartments, the landlords (private or government agencies) prohibit it.

    Growing food to sell is not as easy as it sounds.

    • ProgressorConserve June 24, 2013 at 9:49 pm #

      Mike, they wouldn’t be growing food on those empty lots even if it were legal because, let’s face it, it’s just too dang much work. And it gets hot out there. Can’t have that! I know how hard it is to find help to work on a farm. My acreage here is enough to feed about 20-30 families for over a year, with proper canning. It’s just too dang easy to sit around and wait for the gubmint to load that Food Stamp Card, …no, no, wait…the “SNAP” card, at the beginning of each month.

      • ProgressorConserve June 24, 2013 at 9:52 pm #

        True story, I hired 4 men and 3 women, all unemployed, last August to help pick crops off my land for $12 dollars an hour. Two lasted until lunch time and quit the same day the started. The other five? They never did show up! Eating these days is a…, what’s the expression?…SNAP!

        • wheres asoka June 25, 2013 at 1:06 pm #

          Brief funny story, there is a ‘shack’ near here, dirty and disused.
          A neighbor hired some illegals to clean it. Once they saw it
          [that it would be much hard work] they quit fast.

      • wheres asoka June 25, 2013 at 1:04 pm #

        ‘Learned Helplessness’ aka ‘whats da use of trying’.

    • ozone June 25, 2013 at 10:39 am #

      “Growing food to sell is not as easy as it sounds.”

      Nor is growing food to feed oneself. (But, as you say, stupid regulations to preserve market share sure don’t help the situation!)

    • Dark Skies Falling June 26, 2013 at 2:40 am #

      Farming is labor and resource intensive. Hunting and gathering is even more difficult because of government regulations. Plus there isn’t much wild game roaming around most cities in the US.

  67. ProgressorConserve June 24, 2013 at 9:22 pm #

    Hey, Unstoppable,
    you said…

    “I personally believe that neither will occur regardless of Snowden’s continued evasion or assured conviction, but it does raise the question of whether there is a government wielded face slap yet to be delivered to the con-citi-sumer-zens hard enough to wheedle a meaningful reaction.

    And sorry, I know this is last week’s fodder, but the return to farming topic won’t mean anything until some sort of natural or social cataclysm occurs.”

    I completely concurr, my man! I think that Snowden will be extradited to the States after Putin is done squeezing everything out of him he can. If I was a bettin man, I’d say Putin would make a deal with Holder that Holden couldn’t refuse. But that’s unlikely, since Holder is nothing but a water carrying Uncle Tom, sort of a Step n Fetchit for our modern era. Putin needs to find some grown up men to make deals with, not another house n_gger like Obama.

    Jim’s pride in his garden shows. I know it takes a lot of work to farm my acreage here in Georgia and it’s not for the faint of heart or limp wristed. I also wouldn’t lay any bets on the rest of the sheeple in this country doing anything after Snowdan gets tried and sentenced. Folks are too busy watching Wheel of Fortune, munching Cheeze Doodles, and watching Wendy Williams talk about how horrible that broad from the Food Network is. Mustn’t stop the infotainment, right?

    • wheres asoka June 24, 2013 at 11:56 pm #

      It was classic agitprop. Paula Deen had a gun pointed at her almost 30 years ago and called her assailant a ‘nigger’. The media makes her out to be a villain.
      Blame the victim.

      • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 2:12 pm #

        White Americans should flip the script and make her a hero. That would serve them right. And beyond the symbolism, what they’re doing her to is just wrong, as with George Zimmerman.

    • Dr. George W. Oprisko June 25, 2013 at 5:14 am #

      Snowden will be offered asylum in Iran.

      He has been offered asylum in Russia.

      Putin is pissed over NED/CIA interference in Russian Politics, over Syria, over Iran, and over Libya.

      Putin is not backing down.

      Snowden didn’t miss his plane, that was camoflage. No one, particularly he, believed the US would pass up the opportunity to force that plane down in US territory, to get him.

      Snowden will, most probably become a presenter on RT.

      He can be a national security expert.

      INDY

  68. ProgressorConserve June 24, 2013 at 9:34 pm #

    I note that “Carol” has crawled out from the woodwork like the cockroach that “she” is. She seems to considr herself some great sage, yet she never has anything quite interesting to add to this forum. I imagine “her” to be a very lonely “woman”, probaly sitting in a dark, one room studio, eating a stale tuna fish sandwich, swatting the flys that gather around her sandwich and twat. Poor, pathetic, lonely, dried up ghost of a person who never quite lived up to “her” grandeous expectations of her sorry life. I find that rather sad.

  69. Carol Newquist June 24, 2013 at 10:42 pm #

    up to “her” grandeous expectations

    My, my, Miss American Pie, you are from Georgia, aren’t you? In Georgia, it’s grandeous versus grandiose. You are the quintessential moron. Go tend your fields and stay off the internet. Oh, and work them yourself you lazy ass rather than trying to pay people next to nothing to do the back-breaking work you should be doing. Of course, if you did that, you wouldn’t be able to post at CFN 24/7 like you do from your NSA cubicle.

  70. DOG MEAT June 24, 2013 at 11:10 pm #

    Yep,… Silicon Valley is campaign money for OBAMA

    SV makes its money selling SPYWARE (HW&SW)

    The only people left with CASH to spend is NSA/CIA, … they print the money for free, all they want,

    Heard of LICENSE TO KILL (007)? Well the NSA has a license to print ($$7), and they’re spending 10’s of billions a year in SV, and much goes back to OBAMA for votes. Much of it goes to Israel who own much of the SV hw&sv ( narus&palintar ).

    Now the funny thing is that OBAMA is minor league compared to the secret government, since they took out JFK, these guys know they’re dog meat.

    If the US president is dog-meat, what does that say for US JOE PUBLIK?

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    • Eleuthero June 25, 2013 at 10:52 am #

      How right you are, Dog Meat. The Palo Alto area is now home to some of the most heinous corporations ever to exist, especially Palantir. Of course, they make themselves out to be heroes by jawboning about “fighting terrorism”.

      It’s one reason I need to get the fuck out of the Bay Area. It has turned into an area for the congenitally overambitious, greedy fuckers, empire builders, and lots and lots of posers who gather at the local cafes and bars after work to talk shop and sound important. You never hear people actually talk about ISSUES around here any more. It’s all about their dreams of personal conquest.

      E.

      • wheres asoka June 25, 2013 at 1:08 pm #

        Many of the riche-est counties in USA are in Virginia [5 of the top 10?]. And from what Rush says on the radio, DC is ‘lotsa starbucks and lotsa crime’. Aka ‘the 2 Americas’.

      • Dark Skies Falling June 25, 2013 at 10:23 pm #

        Austin, TX is becoming more like SF, no LA, every day: superficial, self-important, and ego-driven, thanks in part to the great migration of 2008 to present.

  71. DOG MEAT June 24, 2013 at 11:15 pm #

    Ok, … let’s stop the BS, but KUNSTLER will carry it on.

    Things are great in CHINA, and all of ASIA rocks right now.

    The USA sucks dick, that’s why I’m not there.

    Why in the fuck isn’t KUNSTLER farming in south-america? Living the good life without fear?

    There is good money still in the world, SGD/CHF come to mind, and many good places, … hell myanmar is great and so is LAOS, and vietnam, … much of south-america, … CHEAP and good life.

    I might add also the niceness of having PUSSY 1/2 your age, .. not going to find that in the USA for cheap, … nada,

    Most of what KUNSTLER writes every fucking week is rehash, …nothing new under the kunstler sun, … most interesting just to see what BS he’s pushing,

    It all goes down to KUNSTLER lives in the sticks and farms, and then publishes dumb fucking books for morons to BUY, and that’s his income.

    I concur above his batting-average is much less that 0.005% when it comes to accurate information, but he is widely quoted and adorned by the MSM, and that should give you clue right there about his Zionism 101 ties.

    But on with his statements this week, more than 90% bullshit, just about any place on earth is 10X better than the USA right now,…

    Folks like KUNSTLER have to talk shit about WHY the USA ain’t bad by pointing out how the rest of the world sucks, but it don’t

    ONLY THE USA SUCKS DICK

  72. DOG MEAT June 24, 2013 at 11:52 pm #

    Well USA is fucked and even apple stores are fucked.

    But to suggest the rest of the world is fucked, …

    JIM get off the fucking FARM and go see the world,

    ASIA is booming right now,… life is good, most places have less than 1% un-employment.

    I concur that CHINA has minor problem, hell I live here, but JIM please note that here in KUNMING that they about 5+ years ago BANNED gas motorcycles and such its all electric in many places,…

    I think you NOT have a fucking clue about the world outside of your little pretend world.

    Also quit the fucking 1970?s peak-oil shit, .. we didn’t know shit in 1970 about what was under our footsteps.

    The only reason that fuel is expensive is that the CARTEL’s want it that way, …

    The USA may have the guns and nukes and print fake money, but they don’t have the clout to control the CARTEL’s.

    The USA ain’t fucked because expensive OIL, its fucked cuz the people are lazy and rotten to the fucking bone, and all on welfare either cop or ho. Good jobs were off-shored long ago, and all that remains in the USA is an unwanted mass of tissue that MUST be eliminated.

    The secret government in the USA has a big problem, … how to kill 300 Million souls, … but its not your problem if you don’t live there.

  73. wheres asoka June 24, 2013 at 11:53 pm #

    Cofcc.org

    How Asian immigrants get preferential treatment when starting a business.
    Partaking or Taking Over by Stephanie Galonska

    The Mississippi River had flooded again so I had to take a long detour around I-80 and it was there where I saw it. Imagine my surprise when I walked into an Antique store to ask for directions and saw, to my great dismay, an Indian from India.

    • DOG MEAT June 25, 2013 at 12:19 am #

      I don’t think they get preference, but its simply hard-wired that Indians and Chinese ‘get money from home’ to start biz, …

      Self-Employment its called, and cuz they got home-money they can pay all the tax and fee shit.

      White folk ain’t got no family home with money. Thus whitey is FUCKED in the USA.

      But no preference, everybody has to pay big to have a lemonaide stand in the USA, in the rest of the world its free.

      Only in the USA do you have to pay tax&fee to 1000’s of agencys’ to start a fucking biz, … this is why in the last 40 years 99% of all small-biz is DEAD in the USA.

      • wheres asoka June 25, 2013 at 1:17 pm #

        A guy called Rush Limbaugh with his tale. He lost his job in Florida
        and could not find another. He had mowed lawns as a teen. To get
        ‘legal’ with a Fla. he needed 6 licenses. However he said he had plenty of work.
        Yr ‘only in America’ is false. Google ‘De Soto may get a Nobel Prize’.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hernando_de_Soto_Polar

  74. DOG MEAT June 25, 2013 at 12:16 am #

    There are lots of places without constant government surveillance, without drone bombers flying over and threatening you; places with a better quality of life than the USA.

    **

    That’s true, but every week James spends all his precious ink talking shit how bad it is everywhere else,

    Hell yes, anywhere but the USA is very nice indeed.

  75. Eleuthero June 25, 2013 at 12:44 am #

    Loved the line ” The USA slogs deeper into paralysis and decay in a collective mental fog of disbelief that its own exceptionalism can’t overcome the laws of thermodynamics.”

    Life is “Zen-like” in the sense that sometimes one sentence says more than an entire book. This is such a sentence. The narcosis and rank stupefaction of this culture, especially the self-ghetto-izing” white culture, wouldn’t even know the definition of “exceptionalism” and they certainly do not know what “thermodynamics” is. They disbelieve in the decay of their lives because they don’t even know how to ascertain the larger causes.

    E.

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  76. Eleuthero June 25, 2013 at 12:55 am #

    I’m amused at all this hypothesizing about Edward Snowden’s “motives”. Who cares? He exposed our intelligence apparatus violating the 4th Amendment of the Constitution of about 250 million citizens old enough to talk on a phone or be on the Internet.

    His motives? I don’t care if he wanted to get laid in a Hong Kong opium den. The irony: His biggest supporters are REPUBLICANS so you Obama supporters, well, I told ya so. The left in America is now the ORWELLIAN LEFT.

    It’s amazing that the likes of Rand Paul, usually a doofus, want to gather funds to sue the NSA. I donated!!

    E.

    • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 2:33 am #

      Why surprising? He’s a Libertarian: great on things like the Fed and Federal Tyranny and a complete retard on immigration or what a Nation really is. Hint: a Nation has an economy but isn’t its economy.

  77. Meet "Main Core Security Index" June 25, 2013 at 4:18 am #

    A Giant Blackmail Machine

    Recent disclosures by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden have done much to dispel remaining myths (government spying is “focused,” “legal,” etc.) surrounding the secret state’s privacy-killing surveillance programs.

    It now seems likely that NSA is hoovering up far more than the “telephony metadata” revealed by The Guardian’s publication of the secret FISA Court Order to Verizon Business Services.

    Following-up on PRISM program reporting, The Washington Post disclosed June 15 that the Bush administration’s “warrantless wiretapping” program STELLAR WIND “was succeeded by four major lines of intelligence collection in the territorial United States, together capable of spanning the full range of modern telecommunications, according to the interviews and documents.”

    “Two of the four collection programs, one each for telephony and the Internet,” Barton Gellman reported, “process trillions of ‘metadata’ records for storage and analysis in systems called MAINWAY and MARINA, respectively.”

    According to the Post, “Metadata includes highly revealing information about the times, places, devices and participants in electronic communication, but not its contents. The bulk collection of telephone call records from Verizon Business Services, disclosed this month by the British newspaper the Guardian, is one source of raw intelligence for MAINWAY.”

    Dropping a bombshell, although withholding supporting documents, Gellman reports that the “other two types of collection, which operate on a much smaller scale, are aimed at content. One of them intercepts telephone calls and routes the spoken words to a system called ­NUCLEON.”

    “MARINA and the collection tools that feed it are probably the least known of the NSA’s domestic operations,” the Post averred. “Yet they probably capture information about more American citizens than any other, because the volume of e-mail, chats and other Internet communications far exceeds the volume of standard telephone calls.”

    “The NSA calls Internet metadata ‘digital network information.’ Sophisticated analysis of those records can reveal unknown associates of known terrorism suspects. Depending on the methods applied, it can also expose medical conditions, political or religious affiliations, confidential business negotiations and extramarital affairs.”

    In other words, it seems likely that harvested data gleaned from phone calls, emails, video chats and credit card records are being used in ways that are as old as the spy game itself: political and economic blackmail.

    Indeed, NSA whistleblower Russ Tice, the principal source for The New York Times exposé of illegal Bush administration spy programs, told Sibel Edmonds’ Boiling Frogs Post podcast that the secret state has ordered surveillance on a wide range of groups and individuals, including antiwar activists, high-ranking military officials, lawmakers and diplomats.

    According to Tice:

    “Okay. They went after–and I know this because I had my hands literally on the paperwork for these sort of things–they went after high-ranking military officers; they went after members of Congress, both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence committees and on the armed services committees and some of the–and judicial. But they went after other ones, too. They went after lawyers and law firms. All kinds of–heaps of lawyers and law firms. They went after judges. One of the judges is now sitting on the Supreme Court that I had his wiretap information in my hand. Two are former FISA court judges. They went after State Department officials. They went after people in the executive service that were part of the White House–their own people. They went after antiwar groups. They went after US international–US companies that that do international business, you know, business around the world. They went after US banking firms and financial firms that do international business. They went after NGOs that–like the Red Cross, people like that that go overseas and do humanitarian work. They went after a few antiwar and civil rights groups. So, you know, don’t tell me that there’s no abuse, because I’ve had this stuff in my hand and looked at it.”

    “Here’s the big one,” Tice told hosts Sibel Edmonds and Peter B. Collins, “this was in summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a 40-something-year-old wannabe senator for Illinois. You wouldn’t happen to know where that guy lives right now would you? It’s a big white house in Washington, D.C. That’s who they went after, and that’s the president of the United States now.”

    Other political targets revealed by Tice included all nine Supreme Court justices, Senate Intelligence Committee head Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and ousted CIA director General David Petraeus, who allegedly resigned over a sex scandal.

    Is it any wonder then, that House and Senate leaders driving the “oversight” clown car are the ones now braying loudest for Ed Snowden’s head!

    Like ECHELON, Only on Steroids

    A new series of disclosures published by The Guardian, based on the Snowden files but, like the Post, without public disclosure of the actual documents, we learned that Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) “has secretly gained access to the network of cables which carry the world’s phone calls and internet traffic and has started to process vast streams of sensitive personal information which it is sharing with its American partner, the National Security Agency (NSA).”

    “The sheer scale of the agency’s ambition is reflected in the titles of its two principal components: Mastering the Internet and Global Telecoms Exploitation, aimed at scooping up as much online and telephone traffic as possible,” The Guardian reported.

    Britain’s “Mastering the Internet” scheme was first reported by The Register and The Sunday Times back in 2009; Antifascist Calling published an analysis of NSA’s key role in the GCHQ program; a few months later, citing documents posted by WikiLeaks, AFC commented on the cozy relations amongst private intelligence contractors, the European Union and the secret state.

    The architecture of these highly intrusive, illegal programs was created decades ago however, in intelligence-sharing arrangements in the English speaking world under the rubric of NSA’s global surveillance network known as ECHELON.

    As one of the “Five Eyes” partner agencies of the Cold War-era UKUSA Security Agreement (US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) exposed by journalists Duncan Campbell and Nicky Hager in their ECHELON investigations, GCHQ, through a contemporary operation code named TEMPORA, has tapped into and stored vast quantities of data gleaned from fiber optic cables passing through the UK.

    “This includes recordings of phone calls, the content of email messages, entries on Facebook and the history of any internet user’s access to websites–all of which is deemed legal, even though the warrant system was supposed to limit interception to a specified range of targets,” The Guardian reported.

    But as we know from Campbell and Hager’s reporting, while intelligence and law enforcement officials in Britain and the United States are required to obtain an individualized warrant to target a suspect’s communications in their own nation, no such restrictions apply should one of the five “partner agencies” spy on another country’s citizens. One must assume this arrangement continues today.

    “The documents reveal that by last year GCHQ was handling 600m ‘telephone events’ each day,” The Guardian disclosed, and “had tapped more than 200 fibre-optic cables and was able to process data from at least 46 of them at a time.”

    That GCHQ did so on the basis of “secret agreements with commercial companies, described in one document as ‘intercept partners’,” should come as now surprise to readers of this blog.

    According to Snowden documents “seen” but not published by The Guardian, “some companies have been paid for the cost of their co-operation and GCHQ went to great lengths to keep their names secret. They were assigned ‘sensitive relationship teams’ and staff were urged in one internal guidance paper to disguise the origin of ‘special source’ material in their reports for fear that the role of the companies as intercept partners would cause ‘high-level political fallout’.”

    “It’s not just a US problem. The UK has a huge dog in this fight,” Snowden told The Guardian. “They [GCHQ] are worse than the US.”

    The latest revelations have certainly raised eyebrows in Hong Kong and China, long accused by US political hacks of waging “aggressive cyberwarfare” against US defense and financial networks.

    On Sunday, the South China Morning Post disclosed that “US spies are hacking into Chinese mobile phone companies to steal text messages and attacking the servers at Tsinghua University,” according to documents provided to the Post by Edward Snowden.

    The Post revealed that the US is “hacking” computers “at the Hong Kong headquarters of Pacnet, which owns one of the most extensive submarine cable networks in the region.”

    “Pacnet,” the Hong Kong newspaper explained, “recently signed major deals with the mainland’s top mobile phone companies, owns more than 46,000 kilometres of fibre-optic cables. The cables connect its regional data centres across the Asia-Pacific region, including Hong Kong, the mainland, Japan, South Korea, Singapore and Taiwan. It also has offices in the US.”

    Talk about the (US) pot calling the (Chinese) kettle black!

    NSA Data Fed to Main Core Security Index?

    As sinister as these programs are, is there another component which taps “into data from an ad-hoc collection of so-called ‘black programs’ whose existence is undisclosed,” as alluded to by The Wall Street Journal five years ago?

    In a recent interview with the conservative web site, The Daily Caller, former NSA technical director and whistleblower William Binney said while he doesn’t think “they’re recording all of it,” what they do however, “is take their target list, which is somewhere on the order of 500,000 to a million people. They look through these phone numbers and they target those and that’s what they record.”

    “500,000 to a million people”? Who are they? Foreign citizens, Americans? If the latter, is Binney’s statement confirmation of reporting by journalists Christopher Ketchum and Tim Shorrock about the existence of a secret “Continuity of Government” database of “suspect” Americans known as Main Core?

    “One knowledgeable source claims that 8 million Americans are now listed in Main Core as potentially suspect,” Ketchum reported. “In the event of a national emergency, these people could be subject to everything from heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and possibly even detention.”

    As we now know, US government intelligence agencies including the CIA, DHS, the FBI, military outfits such as US Northern Command and the 70-odd “public-private” fusion centers scattered across the country have spied on antiwar activists, Ron Paul supporters, anarchists, socialists, gun rights’ proponents and, as revealed by journalist Beau Hodai in his troubling report, Dissent or Terror, Occupy Wall Street.

    Did all the data secretly scooped up on law-abiding Americans exercising their constitutionally protected right to free speech wind up in the government’s ultra-secret Main Core security index?

    “Another well-informed source–a former military operative regularly briefed by members of the intelligence community” told Ketchum: “‘The more data you have on a particular target, the better [the software] can predict what the target will do, where the target will go, who it will turn to for help,’ he says. ‘Main Core is the table of contents for all the illegal information that the U.S. government has [compiled] on specific targets.’ An intelligence expert who has been briefed by high-level contacts in the Department of Homeland Security confirms that a database of this sort exists, but adds that ‘it is less a mega-database than a way to search numerous other agency databases at the same time’.”

    A few months after Ketchum’s report appeared, Shorrock informed us that during an interview with financial consultant Norman Bailey, who headed “a special unit within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence focused on financial intelligence on Cuba and Venezuela–the NSA has been using its vast powers with signals intelligence to track financial transactions around the world since the early 1980s.”

    “After 9/11,” Bailey told Shorrock, NSA signals intelligence intercept capabilities were “instantly seen within the US government as a critical tool in the war on terror–and apparently was deployed by the Bush administration inside the United States.”

    “In September 2001,” Shorrock disclosed, “a contemporary version of the [Reagan era] Continuity of Government program was put into play in the hours after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, when Vice President Cheney and senior members of Congress were dispersed to ‘undisclosed locations’ to maintain government functions.”

    “It was during this emergency period,” Shorrock wrote, “that President Bush may have authorized the NSA to begin actively using the Main Core database for domestic surveillance.”

    “If Main Core does exist, says Philip Giraldi, a former CIA counterterrorism officer and an outspoken critic of the agency, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is its likely home,” Ketchum averred.

    “‘If a master list is being compiled, it would have to be in a place where there are no legal issues’–the CIA and FBI would be restricted by oversight and accountability laws–’so I suspect it is at DHS, which as far as I know operates with no such restraints’.”

    “Giraldi notes that DHS already maintains a central list of suspected terrorists and has been freely adding people who pose no reasonable threat to domestic security. ‘It’s clear that DHS has the mandate for controlling and owning master lists. The process is not transparent, and the criteria for getting on the list are not clear.’ Giraldi continues, ‘I am certain that the content of such a master list [as Main Core] would not be carefully vetted, and there would be many names on it for many reasons–quite likely, including the two of us’.”

    While we don’t know whether Binney is referring to the NSA component of Main Core, or some other highly illegal, hitherto unknown program, his statements seem to confirm Gellman’s reporting in The Washington Post that “spoken words” are routed “to a system called ­NUCLEON.” Again, without publishing supporting documentation supplied by Edward Snowden, the picture is far from clear.

    Recent revelations however, building on scandals surrounding the interception of the sensitive communications of Associated Press and Fox News reporters, along with President Obama’s Nixonian obsession with stopping “leaks” as part of the administration’s war on whistleblowers, it should be clear by now that the police state Rubicon has already been crossed.

    In 1976, during Senate hearings into earlier government lawbreaking, Senator Frank Church warned: “The National Security Agency’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide. If a dictator ever took over, the NSA could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back.”

    “I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge,” Senator Church cautioned. “I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.”

    What should also be clear, is that the bipartisan consensus that seeks to criminalize the leak and not the illegality of the programs exposed, reflects the profound fear in elite Washington circles of the American people. As opposition to endless war and austerity continues to percolate below the surface, it is only a matter of time before the breaking point is reached.

    • UFIA June 25, 2013 at 9:29 am #

      I’m Grateful that you posted this weighty exposure, Mr. Main Core ;>)

      The details coming out about government spying programs are just confirming what all of us nervous yet still plugged in digital media users already suspected. Articles like the one you’ve presented simply help flesh out the vocabulary of awareness, the compartmentalized layers of governmental secrecy and the police state that should have US citizens taking up arms and fighting for the sovereign ideals “we” supposedly once believed in. But no, that’s not what’s occurring, that’s not what ever occurs. We’ll just have to wait for a trusty politician to get elected to clean up Washington. *smirk*

      Anyhow, I get a kick out of people who claim to have always been aware of what those on the metaphoric other side of the isle have supposedly missed politically for whatever amount of time fits their bullshit partisan observation. This whole idea that Liberals are now awakening to who Obama really is simply offers Conservatives a reprieve for their own embarrassment in supporting Bush once or even twice.

      Only a few of us are smart enough to know that the lies bridge each administration. And we recognize that the childish and convenient blame shifting pattern simply reverses whenever the other party holds the oval office. Such frail egos of Libs and Cons are constantly on the look out for a way to escape the truth that they’ve shit their own beds time and again. It’s social narcissism run rampant and shows that in fact the people are not capable of self-governance, no matter how lofty the founding ideals were supposed to be. Yup, we get the politics “we” deserve.

      The original post suggests that, “What should also be clear, is that the bipartisan consensus that seeks to criminalize the leak and not the illegality of the programs exposed, reflects the profound fear in elite Washington circles of the American people. As opposition to endless war and austerity continues to percolate below the surface, it is only a matter of time before the breaking point is reached.” – Main Core

      Well have to see about this. At most, I suspect the citizens will donate a couple bucks to some sort of empty legal campaign or buy a T-shirt with the prez’s face altered to connote memory of just another dead phantom, to satisfy the personal freedom to languish in empty speech.

      As if “we” cannot comb through the historic power seating legislation passed in every presidential administration for the last 40 years (and longer) to find the evidence that power is and has been colluding for its own self interest since for ever. Yeah, it’s not the government that sucks, it’s the people. But don’t tell anyone, we need those phantoms to chase. Wake me when the bullets start to fly. I’m sure I’ll have plenty of rest.

      -UFIA

      • Eleuthero June 25, 2013 at 11:15 am #

        I think we really are getting both the governments and the corporations that we deserve. I’ve recommended the book “Coming Apart: The State of White America 1960-2010”. With lots of statistical backing, it makes the case that the working class in America has abandoned traditional American values.

        I see this all the time in California, especially in shitholes like Sacramento where it seems like half the people over 45 years of age are trying to be “tragically hip” with tattoos, wearing pro sports paraphernalia which used to be the province of ten-year-old kids, and a kind of “in your face” anti-intellectualism.

        Comically, much of my new insights into the American working class have come from DATING SITES which represent a pretty good cross-section of America since most people’s marriages don’t last. I’ve talked to divorced and separated women living in CA, OR, AZ, CO, NM, TX, and a few other states. Fully two-thirds of them are functionally illiterate people who don’t know the difference between “to” and “too”, “lose” and “loose”, “your” and “you’re”, and they misspell words like “sense” which becomes “sence”. Their online manners are no better than their grammar and spelling, too.

        It’s all been such a blur but the “Coming Apart …” book succinctly outlines what’s happened. Everyone is a tool of Madison Avenue and mass media companies.

        E.

        • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 11:44 am #

          But he wont make the final logical step and become a White Nationalist. Only then can we separate once and for all for from the alien influences and this media saturated culture – all designed to degrade us.

      • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 11:49 am #

        Real Conservatives hated Bush. We woke up generations ago during the Cold War. The earliest (like Lindbergh Sr) back in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act. You all are Johnny Come Latlelies – and you can’s stand it.

        To think that the persecution of Paula Dean is just more celebrity news shows the depth of you shallowness. Meanwhile, South Africa’s genocide against Whites is now at Stage 6 – preparation. And you probably have wondered how genocides happen and why nobody cares. Just look in the mirror. You wont care about White Genocide until your turn comes.

    • ozone June 25, 2013 at 10:18 am #

      …And properly titled as “A Giant Blackmail Machine”.
      STFU, or else is the intended implication. It’ll be a nasty day when privation overcomes fear, but nobody seems to be thinking that far ahead, or indeed of anything that has to do with consequences of oppression.

    • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 11:53 am #

      Your patriotism isn’t very inspiring, but I can’t blame you too much since America has failed so miserably. But the Howard Zinns and the Hollywood Ten types have a share in that failure. Their envy and hatred for a Nation that could never really be a part of is beyond belief. To this side of things, the ethnic side, you remain blind.

      Don’t get me wrong, they could have fit in here, but they chose not to.

      • wheres asoka June 25, 2013 at 1:21 pm #

        Indeed. US GIs fought to free the European Jews AND allowed their immigration. What a f–king ‘trojan horse’.
        Now the Zinns hate us, the Christian oppressors. See the Taki article on Paula Deen. And what the tribesman are quoted as saying therein!

  78. Carol Newquist June 25, 2013 at 7:36 am #

    According to this, things are looking up despite what many here say. So, which is it?

    http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/7-cars-that-have-made-gm-forget-the-bailout.html/?ref=YF

    As General Motors (NYSE:GM) continues to ride a wave of good news — with its impressive sales figures and encouraging re-entry into the Standard & Poor 500 Index, it appears as though the U.S. automaker is on its way to officially kicking its “Government Motors” snub to the curb. Although there are several reasons that point to GM’s resurrected success, the company’s has its new vehicles to thank for the good progress in most of its recent profitable quarters.

    Facts are stubborn things, aren’t they? The problem is, when you start with the wrong theory, as many of the racists here have done, you increasingly resort to stretching the truth to keep your false theory alive, and with each passing moment, you look ever-more the fool. For some odd reason, most, if not all, of your theories lead back to purchasing precious metals. Why is that, I wonder?

  79. Carol Newquist June 25, 2013 at 8:17 am #

    A friend’s cat had kittens just last week. A third of the litter was male. The males have mysteriously disappeared. We suspect she murdered them. That’s one smart and cool cat and an example for all human, breeding females to follow. If ProgressorConserve’s and Eleuthero’s mothers had done the same, we wouldn’t be in this mess. The world would have been a much more peaceful place. Don’t think the raping racist males don’t know this. That’s why they’re at the forefront of anti-abortion movements and collapse movements. They must ensure the enslavement of women because they know they are the weaker gender. Women are survivors. Men, especially the ones who claim to be so resilient, wouldn’t make it past a year old, if that, without the significant aid of their mothers. Hopefully, mothers figure this out en masse, and do what needs to be done when the law no longer applies.

    • UFIA June 25, 2013 at 10:02 am #

      Carol-Asoka, whomever.

      Honestly, I don’t mind you poking fun at the personalities themselves, but you cross an unforgivable line when you start in on someone’s children or in making despicable remarks about whether someone’s mother should have aborted them. Whatever your job entails or whatever your purpose for camping out in this blog is, you do yourself a disservice as a humane character acting that way. That shit will come back to haunt you, and surely you know this. Even if you are a shill you are not a psychic robot. And if you are a professional, then you already know from relevant media studies that blogs are mostly echo chambers that don’t amount to reliable social change anyway, so your job of derailing social momentum is fairly easy. Why destroy yourself in the process?

      In fact, you do pretty well when you focus on the individual level of hypocrisy and present “arguments” that expose simply that; the egoistic responses to your provocations are unmistakable, but you end up justifying the return vitriol and cede any ground you have gained in the process when you sink even lower with the same erroneous righteous indignation that you’ve initially attacked. Are you really a fuking Jaeg-off? (courtesy of ‘Zone).

      Stop dragging children or someone’s birth into captivity into your attacks, not that this request was worth making.

      -UFIA

      • Carol Newquist June 25, 2013 at 12:04 pm #

        Fantastic satire. Subtle. I like that. You had me laughing so hard, I almost pissed my panties. Keep it coming. Save The Children. Free Willy. Great stuff. You slay me, Bro!!

        • UFIA June 25, 2013 at 12:35 pm #

          Actually, if you had caught on to anything at all you’d have realized that I personally believe that life is worth losing; the least you yourself could do is die with some dignity by allowing the ones who had no choice in their worldly introduction a bit of the same. The adults are fair game, however, and your attack boundaries should center around them, lest you would allow your own children to be targeted. If that’s the case, then you’re beyond reproach and my appeal to reason with you was a mistake. My bad, bruh.

          • Carol Newquist June 25, 2013 at 1:36 pm #

            Stop it now. You’re going to give me bladder-control problems, Bro. You’re good. You should do stand-up.

    • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 11:56 am #

      So female kittens are resilient because their Mother doesn’t kill them? You are twisted – much like Nancy Pelosi who thinks abortion is so sacred that as a Catholic she can’t talk about it or answer any questions.

  80. NSA June 25, 2013 at 11:13 am #

    We here at the agency in Langley are putting the finishing touches on the La Hillary installation in 2016……we have found a suitable double and now installing the necessary gene enhancements and DNA modifications. We here at the agency are very very impressed by Ms Newquist here on this site and will be recommending her for a major position in the La Hillary government. Some here at the agency were joking she might be a reincarnated preying mantis (the female of the species turns around and bites the head off the male fornicating her…. the male carries on headless). We found Barry Sartaro selling shoes at a Karls in Nairobi and with very little gene splicing and gay aversion therapy, managed to make the confused lad president…….

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    • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 12:00 pm #

      Do you get a hard on for Gay Nancy of San Francisco? The Gays love her – she is so twisted, just like them. As Roy Masters says, Cannibals want Cannibal Kings. Caps intentional and necessary.

      • UFIA June 25, 2013 at 12:44 pm #

        Cheeze and rice, you really are weeping hemorrhoid sort of creature, aren’t ya. Let’s hope that JHK is growing some magical anti-inflamatory herbs that will help rid you from his posterior one of these days. You sad example of why whites once held the throne and lost it.

        • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 2:28 pm #

          Why? What did I say this time that was so bad? You like Nancy? Then you are Nancy, boy.

          Or do you doubt that Aboriginees once hunted each as game?

    • ozone June 25, 2013 at 12:18 pm #

      Excellent!
      This will be a “gambler’s gambler” gamble to end ’em all; put up, put out, or shut up time.
      Things should be crumbling along rapidly, come 2016. Hillary as Savior or Evil Overlord, depending on who you happen to be ‘with’ or ‘against’.
      I quite like it. It matters very little what happens to me; I just want to be around to witness this eventuality and its’ outcomes. Please don’t forget to get Jebbie-the-Smarterer in the race against her to provide the illusion of a choice…. although by that time, the gen’l public should be nicely pliable and Madison Ave. should be well-positioned to lead ’em around by the nose.

      BTW, just for my personal edification, who will we be warring against (or about to be) at that time? Just curious; the ‘reasons’ for it might be good for a grim laugh or two and should have some bearing on the ‘messaging’.

      • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 2:31 pm #

        Well said Grima Storm Crow. Hill was not only a disciple but a friend of Saul Alinsky, who dedicated his “Rules for Radicals” to the Devil. It a masterpiece of how to destroy your opponents with smears, humor, and innuendo. Isolate, polarize, and ridicule. Paula Dean is a textbook case. But that’s alright cuz she White, right Zone.

        I’m sure you own a well worn dog eared copy. Kdog too.

  81. NSA June 25, 2013 at 1:56 pm #

    Very very observant, Jaego. We here at the agency in Langley discovered Ms Pelosi pole dancing at a LGBT disco in the Tenderloin….and with gene therapy and DNA conversion, coupled with a routine sex change operation, managed to transform him into a very effect congresswoman and a very important legislative asset…protecting our expanding budget and prerogatives…… Tred lightly, Jaego, as we can turn your case over to our direct action department at any time…..fatal routine traffic accidents are more common than you might imagine.

    • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 3:01 pm #

      That’s Ok, I have insurance. We are Farmers. Da Da Da Da Da Da Da!

  82. Paula Deen June 25, 2013 at 2:00 pm #

    I love colored people. It’s got nothin to do with color. It’s got to do with what’s in here (I’m pointing to my defiled asshole). Hollis is as dark as that blackboard over there. Where are you, Hollis. I can’t hardly see you against that blackboard cuz yur so darned dark. Why, you so dark, yur gums is blue. But I love you cuz you don’t back talk and tell me I’m an obese, obnoxious, diabetic whore.

    http://bossip.com/793169/footage-of-paula-deen-bringing-black-employee-on-stage-cracking-racist-cant-see-ya-in-the-dark-jokes-while-defending-southern-views-video/

    Thank you for your support, CFN. I know I can count on the good folks in this comments section to get my back when the chips is down. I’ll bake you my famous white cake made with six dozen eggs, four pounds of sugar and twenty pounds of butter and cream cheese. Doesn’t that sound delightful? I call it White Supremacy. Even Hollis likes it. You should see him eat it. It’s decadent….the white contrasted with the black. Hollis and I will go to hell together.

    • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 2:33 pm #

      You are sick. She treated that young man like he was her son. You are so filled with racism against Whites that you can’t see what’s really happening in that video: Love. I may not like it either but I admit the reality of it.

  83. NumbersMexico June 25, 2013 at 2:32 pm #

    This is precisely why abortion should never be banned. Does the world really need more chronically-masturbating males? As the Republican Congressman from Texas astutely points out, some male fetuses are masturbating in the womb at fifteen weeks. If they’re masturbating at fifteen weeks, can you imagine them at fifteen-years-old. There are enough steroidal-raging, chronically-masturbating males as it is. Let’s not make it illegal to prevent more from coming into this world. Say no to chronic male masturbation. Say yes to abortion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ1-HMC9jqA&feature=player_embedded

    • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 2:35 pm #

      Little girls masturbate too. That’s why women should have to ride side saddle. And don’t let your little girl slide down the bannister – she may lose her virginity.

      • NumbersMexico June 25, 2013 at 2:43 pm #

        Wow, you really are a pedophile. You are a sick and twisted freak who needs to be locked away from civil society. Do you babysit by any chance?

        • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 2:58 pm #

          Nice thrust Asoka. But my parry: you brought up little boys masturbating and you want to kill them. Are you against little girls masturbating?

      • UFIA June 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm #

        Jaego, you’re a pig. Your racist blather is just boring to anyone who has even the most marginal grasp of evolutionary theory and can be easily overlooked as simpleton noise, but these blatant pedophilia predilections of yours expressed in between your incoherent and vain attempts at pseudo-intelectual eloquence are flatly inexcusable. I’ve not been around long enough to know how many others have let you off the hook with that shit, but I certainly won’t.

        It’s not my place to implore JHK to ban you, for I’m simply a temporary guest, but make no mistake you cretin… you will reap what you sow. Our eyes are on you, scumball… and it’s not the type of attention you’ve been begging for.

        • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 6:33 pm #

          This is how we were unthroned: our willingness to defame each other. You ignore Asoka murderous posts about little boys and attack my attempt to level the playing field. Evidently you have no problem with discrimination against boys up to the level of muder, nor White Genocide in South Africa. Since you have no responded, I can only interpret your silence as consent.

          Yet you claim moral superiority. Typical and Tragic Liberal nonsense.

          Little children are sexual beings – in the sense of exploration of their own bodies. I have no problem with this. Evidently you and “Mexican Numbers” do – at least as far as boys are concerned.

        • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 6:48 pm #

          Blacks have lower IQ than Whites. That’s just a fact. And Whites have lower IQ’s than East Asians and Ashkenazi Jews. So there is no supremacy in this position.

          You are the ones peddling bullshit 20th Century ideas about equality. Get over it – it’s history. An analogy: people in the 18th and 19th Century considered Chimpanzees to be dangerous brutes. In the 20th Century people get sentimental and the EARLY work of Jane Goodall promoted Chimps as lovering vegetarians. Later she saw them hunting monkeys, eating baby chimps, patrolling their territory and attacking rival gangs and picking off loners and beating them to death. In other words, the older point of view, that of the 18th and 19th Centuries was correct and the 20th Century – wrong. Now everyone knows the truth after chimps ate some people’s faces. Michael Jackson sent his Chimp, Bubbles, to an Ape Reserve before it happened to him.

          The Great Ape hope now lies with the Feminist Bonobos. They have been seen castrating males, but that doesn’t bother anybody. I’m sure as a Feminist Male, you have no problem with it either.

          • ProgressorConserve June 26, 2013 at 1:20 pm #

            The best dancers, by far, happen to be black. They have rhythm that you can’t find among white people. If you’re talking intelligence, then yeah, I’d have to say that given the choice, I’d rather have a white person operate on my kids than a black one. The same goes for my kid’s (now my grandkids! ) teachers. Give me a white person every time.

  84. Paula Deen June 25, 2013 at 2:41 pm #

    You are so filled with racism

    How can you say that about me, Jaego My Eggo? I thought you were one of my fondest fans. I feel abandoned. Maybe my blood sugar is low. My electronic insulin pump’s been malfunctioning as of late. I bet the NSA has hacked into it. They can do that now, you know. Oh well, it’s nothing that a piece of cheesecake can’t cure. Toodle Loo.

  85. Jaego June 25, 2013 at 2:55 pm #

    Prog, will you stand with Paula? I want to the Yahoo story and was heartened by the Comments section – almost all pro-Paula. The evil magic spell of PC induced guilt may be wearing off.

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    • ProgressorConserve June 26, 2013 at 1:22 pm #

      Jaego, I think the whole story is a bunch of crap. They nail this woman for saying the word “nigger” about 30 years ago? First of all, I don’t know any white person who hasn’t used that term within the past 30 days!

      • ProgressorConserve June 26, 2013 at 1:25 pm #

        And if I were to count my black friends, probably everyone has used the word “nigger” within the past 3 days! And what is up with people coming down on the Washington Redskins? That name is bestowed on one of the greatest NFL franchises ever! And it was given that name to honor the people who bravely settled this country. And people want to change that? Really??

  86. main core index June 25, 2013 at 7:36 pm #

    If you PLAY here, then you are on our list.

    “500,000 to a million people”? Who are they? Americans? If the latter, is Binney’s statement confirmation of reporting by journalists Christopher Ketchum and Tim Shorrock about the existence of a secret “Continuity of Government” database of “suspect” Americans known as Main Core?

    “One knowledgeable source claims that 8 million Americans are now listed in Main Core as potentially suspect,” Ketchum reported. “In the event of a national emergency, these people could be subject to everything from heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and possibly even detention.”

    As we now know, US government intelligence agencies including the CIA, DHS, the FBI, military outfits such as US Northern Command and the 70-odd “public-private” fusion centers scattered across the country have spied on antiwar activists, Ron Paul supporters, anarchists, socialists, gun rights’ proponents and, as revealed by journalist Beau Hodai in his troubling report, Dissent or Terror, Occupy Wall Street.

  87. xport June 25, 2013 at 8:11 pm #

    These blogs are making me thirsty. Slowly getting more confused, I find myself wondering why no one embraces the obvious. Play the hand that you are dealt. Maybe things are getting better for you, Hopefully, things will get better in the future, at least that is how it played out in the past, unless it got worse, in which case. well, you know how it goes. Maybe this time the fates rolled the dice for all the marbles in the temple. I would hope that is how the game is played. Go for it, all in. Nothing to loose, just play it out.

  88. owenmeany June 25, 2013 at 8:24 pm #

    The comments are scarier than JK’S Mid Year Digest.

  89. A World Made by the NSA Hand June 25, 2013 at 9:24 pm #

    A world Made by Hand … NASA/NSA Joint funded Future plan for 2020 written in 2001, just a few months before 911.

    Future Strategic Issues/Future
    Dennis M. Bushnell
    Chief Scientist
    NASA Langley Research Center
    Future Strategic Issues/Future
    Dennis M. Bushnell
    Chief Scientist
    NASA Langley Research Center
    Warfare [Circa 2025]

    • Capabilities of the “Enemy After Next”
    -Ongoing Worldwide Technological
    Revolutions

    -Economic Trends
    • Potential Nature of Farther Term
    Warfare
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    The ‘Bots, ‘Borgs, ‘& Humans
    Welcome You to
    2025 A.D.

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    THIS PRESENTATION BASED ON
    “FUTURES” WORK FOR/WITH
    • USAF NWV
    THIS PRESENTATION BASED ON
    “FUTURES” WORK FOR/WITH
    • USAF NWV
    • Australian DOD
    • NRO, DSB
    • MSIC, TRADOC, QDR
    • NGIC, JWAC, NAIC
    • JFCOM, TACOM
    • SACLANT, OOTW

    DARPA, SBCCOM

    USAF 2025 • DIA, AFSOC, EB, AU

    National Research • CIA, STIC, L-M, IDA
    Council

    APL, ONA, SEALS

    Army After Next

    ONI, FBI, AWC/SSI

    ACOM Joint Futures

    NSAP, SOCOM, CNO

    SSG of the CNO
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Is meant to incite thought/ discussion
    THIS PRESENTATION
    • Is meant to incite thought/ discussion
    THIS PRESENTATION

    Is based in all cases upon existing
    data/trends/analyses/technologies (e.g., NO
    PIXIE DUST)

    Provides in some cases a somewhat broader
    view of prospective developments and
    issues
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Utilization/Application of
    2025+ Projections
    Utilization/Application of
    2025+ Projections
    • Inputs to Future Warfighting Concepts
    Development(s) (Enemy After Next &
    Blue)
    • Inputs to New Procurement Decision (15+
    years to Produce, 40+ years in Inventory
    • “Heads Up” for Intel Community
    (“Watches and Warnings”)
    • Inputs to DOD R&D Planning
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Going In” Assumptions
    • Politics can/does change “overnight” (e.g.
    “Going In” Assumptions
    • Politics can/does change “overnight” (e.g.
    Russia, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, etc.), Potential
    CAPABILITIES is the future warfare issue,
    not Who but WHAT

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Need to Plan “Differently”
    • WORLD is in the throes of
    Need to Plan “Differently”
    • WORLD is in the throes of
    triple/exponential (IT/Bio/Nano)
    Technological Revolutions


    Changes occurring at scales of months
    (instead of decades)
    • Zeroth order potential effects upon
    Defense/Offense equipment/conops/threat
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “SPACESHIP EARTH”
    The crew are:
    “SPACESHIP EARTH”
    The crew are:
    -Plundering the ship’s supplies
    -Tinkering with the temperature and life-support

    controls
    -Still looking for the instruction manual
    -Engaging in bloody skirmishes in every corner of

    the vessel
    -Increasing the size of the crew by 2 million
    PER WEEK
    P. Creola
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Humans Have “Taken Over” and
    Vastly Shortened “Evolution”
    • Of the Planet
    Humans Have “Taken Over” and
    Vastly Shortened “Evolution”
    • Of the Planet
    – Global Warming/Pollution/Deforestation
    – Huge “Public Work” (e.g. 3 Gorges Dam)
    • Of the Human Species
    – Genomic Design and Repair
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    – “Mind Children” (Moravec)
    • Products/Life Forms
    – Cross Species Molecular Breeding
    – “Directed Evolution” (Maxygen etc.)

    CURRENTLY
    • Order of 70% of Worlds Research
    CURRENTLY
    • Order of 70% of Worlds Research
    conducted outside of U.S. (to first order,
    a % of GDP, U.S. produces order of 18%
    of worlds GDP)

    • Order of 70% of U.S. Research now
    “Commercial” (as opposed to
    Government sponsored)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    NanoTechnology Research
    • 29% in Europe
    NanoTechnology Research
    • 29% in Europe
    • 28% in Japan
    • 27% in U.S.
    • 16% “Other(s)”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Bio/NANO [2020-?]
    • Virtual
    • Bio/NANO [2020-?]
    • Virtual
    Technological Ages of
    Humankind

    Hunter/Killer groups [Million BC~10K
    BC]

    Agriculture [10K BC~1800 AD]

    Industrial [1800~1950]

    IT [1950~2020]
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Hunter-Gatherer – “Nature Provided” • Hunter-Gatherer – “Nature Provided”

    Agriculture – Controlled Nature
    (Plants/Animals)

    Industrial – Mechanized Agriculture

    IT/BIO/Nano – Automating
    Industry/Agriculture
    • Virtual -Robotization of
    IT/Bio/Nano/Industry/Agriculture
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    KEY “FUTURE TECHNOLOGIES”
    (all highly synergistic/at the frontiers of the small,
    in a “feeding frenzy” off each other)
    • IT
    KEY “FUTURE TECHNOLOGIES”
    (all highly synergistic/at the frontiers of the small,
    in a “feeding frenzy” off each other)
    • IT

    Silicon/bio/optical/quantum/nano computing (“no end in sight,” another 106 +)

    (Virtual reality/holographic) immersive ubiquitous comms., hyperspectral sensors,
    “virtual presence”

    Automatic/robotic “everything”

    Huge cost reductions

    Bio

    Life span doubling
    – Genetic engineering before birth
    – Plants irrigated by seawater (food, petro-chem feed stock, minerals, terraforming)
    • Nano
    – Carbon nanotubes (600X strength-to-weight of steel)
    – “Assemblers”/“living factories”
    – Huge cost reductions
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Worldwide IT Revolution
    • Comms/Computing/Sensors/Electronics
    Worldwide IT Revolution
    • Comms/Computing/Sensors/Electronics
    • Ubiquitous multi physics/hyperspectral sensors
    [land/sea/air/space]
    • Micro/Nano sats/GNC/sensors,etc.

    U.S. Commercial IT R&D ~ $100B/yr.

    Factor of 1 Million further improvement
    [Silicon,Molecular,Quantum,Bio,Optical]

    Beyond Human AI?

    Automatics/Robotics “in the large”

    Immersive multi-sensory VR/”Holodecks”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Tele-commerce
    • Tele-politics
    • Tele-socialization
    • Tele-commerce
    • Tele-politics
    • Tele-socialization
    [Worldwide] Impacts of Ongoing IT
    Revolution Upon Society
    • Tele-commuting
    • Tele-shopping
    • Tele-entertainment
    • Tele-travel
    • Tele-Education
    • Tele-medicine
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    IT Status
    • 10E6 improvements in Computing since ‘59,
    10E8 further possible next 30 years
    IT Status
    • 10E6 improvements in Computing since ‘59,
    10E8 further possible next 30 years
    (10E3 provides “better than Human”
    capabilities)


    100 Million Telecommuters Worldwide NOW
    (expected to at least double in 15 years)
    • India graduates three times more software
    engineers than the U.S., More software written
    in Bangalore than Southern CA
    • IW effectively constitutes a 4th WMD
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    SOME IT “PREDICTIONS”
    • Quantum computing initially available in
    SOME IT “PREDICTIONS”
    • Quantum computing initially available in
    5 years


    15% of all power today is used by
    computers, will reach 60% by 2010

    Wearable/implantable (on-person)
    electronics–comms, computing, sensory
    augmentation, health monitoring, brain
    stimulation
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    AI (AND BEYOND) COMPUTING
    • 100 billion neurons
    • 100 trillion connections
    Human Brain Characteristics/Capabilities
    AI (AND BEYOND) COMPUTING
    • 100 billion neurons
    • 100 trillion connections
    Human Brain Characteristics/Capabilities

    200 calculations/second, (slow) speed of neural circuitry

    20 million billion calculations/second

    Excellent at (parallel-computing) pattern recognition, “poor” at
    sequential thinking

    Operates via “random tries”
    • Currently, 10,000 billion calculations/second; 100,000 billion by 2004
    • By 2010, 20 million billion is available (by 2025, on a PC)
    • By 2030, PC has collective computing power of a town full of human
    minds
    Machine Capabilities
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    U.S. “HUMAN BRAIN PROJECT”
    • Begun in early 90’s, funded by 16 organizations across
    U.S. “HUMAN BRAIN PROJECT”
    • Begun in early 90’s, funded by 16 organizations across
    5 agencies (NIH, NSF, DOD, NASA, DOE)


    AKA “Neuroinformatics” (intersection of neuroscience
    and informatics)
    • “Exploding field;” 10,000 individual presentations at
    annual meeting of Society for Neuroscience (from
    molecular geneticists to cognitive psychologists)
    • Determining detailed neuroanatomy of human brain
    (“digital brain atlas”)
    • Use of IT to study brain, use of brain info to aid IT/AI
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    concepts, etc. An attendant neural net used to
    capture/record/evaluate and report on these
    “writings.”
    concepts, etc. An attendant neural net used to
    capture/record/evaluate and report on these
    “writings.”
    THE “IMAGINATION ENGINE”
    aka “Creativity Machine,”
    aka “Creative Agent”

    Current AI “best bet,” not a rule based/expert
    system

    GENERATES new ideas/concepts via starving
    a trained neural net of meaningful inputs,
    forcing it to “dream”/”cavitate,” create new
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “In this [Worldwide] economy our
    ability to create wealth is not
    bounded by physical
    “In this [Worldwide] economy our
    ability to create wealth is not
    bounded by physical
    limits/resources but by our ability
    to come up with new ideas”
    [However,even “universal wealth”
    will not obviate the other causes of

    warfare which include
    Politics,”Face”,Religion,
    Megalomania and Territorial
    Disputes]
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Global Problems/“Solutions”
    • (Serious) Problems • “Killer Ap Solutions”
    Global Problems/“Solutions”
    • (Serious) Problems • “Killer Ap Solutions”

    Energy (2) – (1) Motivational/inexpensive
    Web-based Asynchronous
    – Water (2)
    “Distance Learning”

    – Food (2)
    – (2) Bio mass/food via seawater
    – Land (2)
    irrigation in current

    – Population Growth (1)
    – Wealth Generation (1)
    – “Pollution/Warming” (2)
    “wastelands”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Inexpensive Motivational
    Asynchronous Web-Based
    Distance Education Enables:
    Inexpensive Motivational
    Asynchronous Web-Based
    Distance Education Enables:
    • Demise of the U.S. “underclasses”
    • Wealth Creation from enabled “Invention”
    • Stabilization of World Population
    • [Even More] Rapid Technology Diffusion
    • Equalization of “Haves” and “Havenots”
    • Altered Political/military outlooks Worldwide
    – I.E. Changes “Everything”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Motivational learner/web-based asynchronous
    distance learning allows only method of providing
    requisite/improved educational
    – BREADTH
    – DEPTH
    Motivational learner/web-based asynchronous
    distance learning allows only method of providing
    requisite/improved educational
    – BREADTH
    – DEPTH
    – QUALITY
    – RESPONSIVENESS to shifting global
    economic warfare requirements/ accelerated
    increase in knowledge
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    At orders of magnitude
    (1) reduced societal/individual cost
    (2) increased convenience/accessibility

    By ~ 2025, 40% of Private and
    15% of Public Colleges and
    By ~ 2025, 40% of Private and
    15% of Public Colleges and
    Universities are Expected to
    Close Due to Web-Based
    Competition

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    A Northern VA Business man
    recently donated ~ $100M to set up a
    FREE Ivy League Class On-Line
    University

    The “Ultimate” Education The “Ultimate” Education
    Approach – Plug and Play

    Direct Silicon (or other such) device
    connection to brain, (very rapid)

    uploads, Education in minutes
    instead of (many) years
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Advantages of Shallow Sea/Desert
    Production of Biomass (Via Seawater
    Irrigation)
    Advantages of Shallow Sea/Desert
    Production of Biomass (Via Seawater
    Irrigation)
    • Closed CO2 Cycle (Obviates Global Warming)
    • Food
    • Petro-chemical feedstock
    – Materials/clothing, etc.
    – ENERGY (end reliance on Middle East)
    • Terraforming, alter desertification etc.
    • Preservation/Production of Fresh Water
    • Rich Mineral source (Seawater)
    • Utilization of “Wastelands” (Sahara, etc.)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Probable Circa 2025
    Societal Changes
    • (Much) Increased Life Span (Bio)
    Probable Circa 2025
    Societal Changes
    • (Much) Increased Life Span (Bio)
    • “Solution” to Energy/Water/“Warming” (Bio)
    • (Far More) Global Distribution of Technology,
    Education, Economics, Wealth (IT)
    • (Tremendous) Increases in Capability of
    Automatic/Robotic “Everythings” (IT/Bio/Nano)
    – Resulting in Reduced Tensions Associated with
    “Have/Have Nots” and Historical/Religious Issues
    – Also Resulting in (Greatly) Increased Individual destructive
    power (Bio, IW, etc.) and General Societal Disaffection
    WRT “Machines”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Major Emerging Law
    Enforcement “Issues”
    Major Emerging Law
    Enforcement “Issues”
    • Privacy (Ubiquitous micro/nano sensors)
    • IT/Net Crime (wide spectrum)
    • Bio Crime (binary pathogens, genetics)
    • Protection of Human Electronic Implants
    • Protection of CONUS (Beyond Terrorism)
    • Societal Disaffection/Upheaval Caused by
    Rapid Technological Change(s) (Road/Air
    Rage, Psychosomatic Illnesses, Withdrawal)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Of Particular Concern Of Particular Concern
    Uncontrolled/Uncontrollable
    SELF-REPLICATION
    Of
    – Brilliant Robots (IT)

    – Nano-Replicators (Nano)
    – Rampant Recombinant Bio
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Current Competitive
    Landscape
    Current Competitive
    Landscape

    U.S. produces only 18% of Worlds GDP

    ~70% of Research conducted offshore

    $400B/yr trade deficit

    32 other nations devote a larger % of their
    GDP to Research
    • 5th in No of R&D personnel/labor unit
    • 3% savings rate vs. 30% in Asia
    • 13th out of 30 – Student Math/Science Scores
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    AN EMERGING MULTIPOLAR
    ECONOMIC WORLD
    Percentage Share of Global GDP Source: OCED, The World in 2020, p. 92
    25
    20
    15
    10
    5
    0
    U.S.
    Europe
    China
    India
    Japan
    Brazil
    1995 2020 2020
    Low-Growth High-Growth
    OECD SCENARIOS
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    AN EMERGING MULTIPOLAR
    ECONOMIC WORLD
    Percentage Share of Global GDP Source: OCED, The World in 2020, p. 92
    25
    20
    15
    10
    5
    0
    U.S.
    Europe
    China
    India
    Japan
    Brazil
    1995 2020 2020
    Low-Growth High-Growth
    OECD SCENARIOS

    Bio Revolution Applications
    • “Pharm Animals” [drugs, spare parts]
    Bio Revolution Applications
    • “Pharm Animals” [drugs, spare parts]

    Fast Growing plants on/near sea surface
    & sea water irrigated plants for biomass
    energy/closed CO2 cycle

    Polymer growing plants

    Spider genes in goats allow spider silk
    spinning from goat milk for “Biosteel”,
    3.5X strength of aramid fibers for Armor
    • Binary Bio-weaponry
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Examples
    Confluence of IT/Bio/Nano
    Examples
    Confluence of IT/Bio/Nano

    Brain of a sea lampry inserted/connected
    to body of a robotic fish (an initial
    cyborg)

    “Chew-Chew” – a flesh/plant eating robot
    that hunts/bio-digests “natural foods” to
    “live off the land”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Computing (10-4 En. Usage)
    • Ultra Capacitor/High Temperature SC
    Computing (10-4 En. Usage)
    • Ultra Capacitor/High Temperature SC
    Carbon Nanotubes
    • C1,000,000, Buckminister Fullerine
    Carbon

    • 100X strength, 1/6 weight of steel
    • 8X better Armor
    • Low energy Molecular/Petaflop
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Revolutionary Power
    Generation/Storage Opportunities
    • Ultracapacitors • C-Nanotube storage
    Revolutionary Power
    Generation/Storage Opportunities
    • Ultracapacitors • C-Nanotube storage
    of H2 (non-cryo)?


    Adv. Fuel Cells (e.g.
    Lithium/water/air) • Offshore Methane

    HEDM (e.g. Solid Hydrate
    H2, Isomers, anti-• Black light power?
    matter, etc.
    • Adv. PV (50%?)
    • Room Temperature
    SC/SMES
    • LENR
    • ZPE
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Free Form Fabrication
    • Powder/Wire Metallurgy using robotic
    Free Form Fabrication
    • Powder/Wire Metallurgy using robotic
    magnetically steered electron beams to
    create accreting local melts – GROW
    instead of CUT


    No fasteners, no strong backs for
    fasteners
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    • Nearly infinite fatigue life, excellent
    metallurgy
    • (Repairable) metals at lower weight than
    far more expensive composites

    Aluminum/Vortex Combustor
    • Micro powdered Aluminum fed into a
    vortex combustor “burns” SEAWATER
    Aluminum/Vortex Combustor
    • Micro powdered Aluminum fed into a
    vortex combustor “burns” SEAWATER

    Provides AIP with high energy
    density/efficiency for:
    -inexpensive SS with “near SSN” perf.
    -Transoceanic UUV’s

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    • Would allow “Enemy After Next” to
    AFFORDABLY Threaten CONUS via
    Multitudinous in-shore short-time-offlight
    “popups”

    (Sample) New(er) Sensors
    • Lidar w/ 50% efficiency via S-C optical
    (Sample) New(er) Sensors
    • Lidar w/ 50% efficiency via S-C optical
    Amplifiers, Also Fempto-second Lasers

    • Molec./Bio Sensors
    • Nanotags
    • Smart Card Sensors
    • Sensors implanted during Manuf./Servicing
    • Nano IR (10E-6 Sensitivity)
    • Smart Dust
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Some Sensor “Swarms”
    • SMART DUST
    Some Sensor “Swarms”
    • SMART DUST
    – Cubic mm or less
    – Combined sensors, comms and power supply
    – Floats in air currents
    • NANOTAGS
    – Placed on everything/everywhere
    – Identification and Status Info
    • Co-opted INSECTS
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Some “Explosive” Smart
    Dust Opportunities
    Some “Explosive” Smart
    Dust Opportunities

    Optimal Positioning of Explosive Dust Dust/
    Air Explosives

    Formation of “Explosive Lenses”
    • Infiltration of Deeply Buried/other such
    targets
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Micro Dust Weaponry
    A Mechanical Analog to Bio, Micron sized
    Micro Dust Weaponry
    A Mechanical Analog to Bio, Micron sized
    mechanized “dust” which is distributed as
    an aerosol and inhaled into the lungs. Dust
    mechanically bores into lung tissue and
    executes various “Pathological Missions.”

    A Wholly “New” class of Weaponry
    which is legal.
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Givens” (Now-to-“Soon”)
    • Gb data transfer rates, optical comms
    “Givens” (Now-to-“Soon”)
    • Gb data transfer rates, optical comms

    Petaflop + computing

    Exceptional AI (from Bioinfomatics,
    biomimetics)

    Wonderous/Ubiquitous land/sea/air/space
    multiphysics/hyperspectral sensor swarms
    (military/commercial/scientific)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    • Survival requires dispersion/size reduction and
    concealment
    • Robotic/swarm technologies primarily
    commercial/endemic worldwide

    (Agreed Upon)
    Assumptions, Combat in 2025
    (Agreed Upon)
    Assumptions, Combat in 2025

    Proliferation of TBM’s, IT, Precision
    strike/targeting, ubiquitous micro sensors,
    camo/spoofing, robotics, bio/chem munitions

    Logistic assets highly vulnerable in or out of
    theater
    • In and near theater ports/airfields possibly
    unusable
    • Beam weapons increasingly prevalent
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Cruise Missiles (Current Status)
    • Range/payload similar to TBM at fraction of the cost and
    Cruise Missiles (Current Status)
    • Range/payload similar to TBM at fraction of the cost and
    far greater accuracy


    75,000 in inventory of 75 countries, 130 different versions
    produced in 19 countries (10 “exporting” countries)

    German V-1 cruise killed 5,000; injured 40,000

    LO, launchable “anywhere/from anything,” highly
    maneuverable
    • “Then Year” costs potentially reduced to 10K – 25K
    • Warhead(s) de jour/de hour (HE/carbon fibers/EMP/sub
    munitions/CNB/volumetric)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    concealed/very difficult (and expensive) to
    counter/accurate cruise “missiles” with a
    potential “devil’s brew” of warheads.
    concealed/very difficult (and expensive) to
    counter/accurate cruise “missiles” with a
    potential “devil’s brew” of warheads.
    Cruise Missiles (Potential Outlook)
    • Any RPV/UAV (or UUV) is a potential “cruise
    missile” (50 countries have UAV’s!)


    Low cost and “ready availability” of requisite
    technology/components essentially ensure the
    “Enemy after Next” will have/inventory/
    field “hordes” of very capable/easily
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Volumetric” Weaponry
    [Alternatives to HE]
    • EMP
    “Volumetric” Weaponry
    [Alternatives to HE]
    • EMP
    • Info/Net/Psy warfare
    • Miniature brilliant sensor/mine combo’s
    • Fuel/air & dust/air/Thermobarics
    • RF
    • Chem/bio Antifunctionals/antifauna
    • Isomers, Strained Bond Energy Release, etc.
    • Carbon fibers and “Blades,” Acoustics etc.
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Antipersonnel MW/RF Weaponry Antipersonnel MW/RF Weaponry
    • Heating [High Power Requirements(s)]
    • Surface Effects
    • Brain Interactions [Low Frequency
    Modulation]
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    EFFECTS OF LOW POWER
    MICROWAVES (U.S. ARMY, SRI,
    WALTER REED)
    EFFECTS OF LOW POWER
    MICROWAVES (U.S. ARMY, SRI,
    WALTER REED)
    • Behavioral performance decrements
    • Seizures
    • Gross alteration in brain function
    • 30% to 100% increases in brain blood flow
    • Lethality
    – Interactions between low power
    (microwatts per sq. cm./.4 to 3 GHz) MW and brain
    function
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Often “Fingerprintless” Bio Archipelago Often “Fingerprintless” Bio Archipelago
    • Bacteriological •
    Fatal-to-disabling

    Viruses • Short-to-long time
    scales
    • Prions
    • Anti•
    Parasites
    flora/fauna/functional

    • Fungi
    • Direct and
    • Carcinogens
    • Toxins
    • Hormones/Regulators
    (undetectable) Binary
    • Natural, Genomic
    • Bio-Hacking
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Some Interesting “Then Year”
    BW Possibilities
    • Aflatoxin – (“natural,” parts-per-billion,
    Some Interesting “Then Year”
    BW Possibilities
    • Aflatoxin – (“natural,” parts-per-billion,
    carcinogen)

    • Airborne varieties of Ebola, Lassa, etc.
    • Binary agents distributed via imported
    products (Vitamins, Clothing, Food)
    • Genomicaly (individual/societal) targeted
    pathogens
    • Long term/fingerprintless campaign (as
    opposed to “shock and awe” BW)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    An (Existing Bio Calmative VEE
    (Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis)
    • Ideal Incap. BW Agent
    An (Existing Bio Calmative VEE
    (Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis)
    • Ideal Incap. BW Agent
    • Weaponized by U.S. & USSR in 50’s/60’s
    • Easily transmitted via Aerosol
    • Highly infectious, Low Fatality Rate
    • 1 to 5 day incubation, 3 week recovery
    • Tested on Humans (Operation Whitecoat)
    • No Treatment Available
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Frontiers of
    (Rapidly Growing/Genomic/Insitu)
    “Bio on the Battlefield”
    Frontiers of
    (Rapidly Growing/Genomic/Insitu)
    “Bio on the Battlefield”
    • Sustainment: •
    Lethality
    – Food –
    Capabilities Enhancement
    – Water (soil/air/purif.) –
    Armor
    – Energy (HC, H2, PV) –
    Concealment (living camo)
    – Meds/“Health” –
    Sensors, FOF ID

    Computing, Clothing – Bio-weaponry (antipersonnel/
    functional, bio
    GREATLY REDUCES

    virus into bio computer)
    – Explosives (e.g. N2 fixation,
    grow overnite)
    “LOGISTICS TAIL” &
    ENHANCES CAPABILITIES
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    What is Apparently “Legal”
    • Microwave/RF Anti-Functional and Anti-
    What is Apparently “Legal”
    • Microwave/RF Anti-Functional and Anti-
    Personnel Weaponry


    Chemical Anti-Functional Weaponry

    Chemical “Psychological Effects” via Sensory
    Organs Weaponry (e.g. smell)

    Chemical Personnel Incapacitation Weaponry
    [“Non-Warfare” (e.g. Hostage/Terrorism) only]
    • PSYWAR
    • Acoustic Weaponry
    • Mechanical Micro Dust
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    (FUTURE) NON-NUCLEAR
    EXPLOSIVES FOR “VOLUMETRIC”/
    WEAPONS OF “MASS EFFECT”
    (FUTURE) NON-NUCLEAR
    EXPLOSIVES FOR “VOLUMETRIC”/
    WEAPONS OF “MASS EFFECT”

    Metastable interstitial composite
    (MIC/Cubanes)

    Order of 6 x TNT

    Fuel-air/dust-air explosives

    Order of 15 x TNT
    • Strain-bond energy release (SBER)
    – Order of 100 x TNT
    • Hafnium (metastable) isomers
    – Order of 1,000 to 100,000 x TNT
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01• Atomic boron, carbon, hydrogen

    High Energy Density Materials
    (HEDM)
    (Power, Explosives, Propellants)
    High Energy Density Materials
    (HEDM)
    (Power, Explosives, Propellants)
    • Tetrahedral N (Isp 600+ sec)
    • Atomic Born, C, H (Isp 600+ sec)
    • Metastable He (Isp 1500 sec)
    • Metallic Hz (Isp 2000 sec)
    • ISOMERS ( 105 x TNT)
    • Anti-matter, LENR’s
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Transoceanic UAV’s
    • Current Capability – (‘98 – 29 lbs, 2000 mi., 1.5 gals. Fuel;
    ‘01 – Transpac, 5000 mi.
    Transoceanic UAV’s
    • Current Capability – (‘98 – 29 lbs, 2000 mi., 1.5 gals. Fuel;
    ‘01 – Transpac, 5000 mi.

    Provides Capability for Undetectable Ultra-inexpensive
    Swarms Against CONUS

    Interesting (Precision) “Payloads”

    ISR

    Smart Dust/Explosive

    Target/explode Hazmat Trucks, Chem. Plants, Oil
    Storage/Refineries, etc.
    – Bio Dispensers (Anti-People, Things, Plants)
    – IW/EMP
    – Brilliant/Miniature sensor/Mine Combos
    – CNT’s (Power Lines, “Wire Blade”)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Blast Wave Accelerator
    • Global Precision Strike “On the Cheap”
    Blast Wave Accelerator
    • Global Precision Strike “On the Cheap”

    No barrel, ~200 ft. notched rails,
    sequentially detonated Distributed HE

    Mach 21 or less as desired, up to 3000 lb

    Base anywhere, ~$200/lb of projectile

    Excellent stealth [no plume],
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    affordability, ferocity, reaction time,
    survivability, recallability, effectiveness
    • Being worked at Aberdeen and NASA
    MSFC for lofting of Fuel and Nanosats

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01 Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Slingatron” for Global
    Precision Strike
    • 10Kg projectiles, up to thousands/minute
    “Slingatron” for Global
    Precision Strike
    • 10Kg projectiles, up to thousands/minute

    Global, or less, range

    $20M/device, 80m diameter

    Mechanical “on-the-ground” propulsion via
    Gyrating Spiral Guide Tube (a multiple “hula
    hoop”
    • “Poor Mans” Global Precision
    Strike/“Takedown Weapon”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Then Year Targeting/
    Connectivity etc.
    Then Year Targeting/
    Connectivity etc.

    MILITARY overheads/systems

    Ubiquitous COMMERCIAL
    overheads/systems

    SCIENTIFIC overheads/systems
    IN the context of:
    – Inexp. Reconstitution via micro/nano sats
    – Optical comms /GPS etc.
    – Ubiquitous inexp. UAV/HALE adjuncts
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    EXAMPLE: POTENTIAL “COMPETITOR” MILITARY
    (SURVELIANCE/INTELLIGENCE/TARGETING/DAMAGE ASSESSMENT)
    UTILIZATION OF INTERNATIONAL SCIENTIFIC “GLOBAL CHANGE”
    PROGRAMS/ASSETS
    • Extensive/increasing international assets (land-based, ship, aircraft
    EXAMPLE: POTENTIAL “COMPETITOR” MILITARY
    (SURVELIANCE/INTELLIGENCE/TARGETING/DAMAGE ASSESSMENT)
    UTILIZATION OF INTERNATIONAL SCIENTIFIC “GLOBAL CHANGE”
    PROGRAMS/ASSETS
    • Extensive/increasing international assets (land-based, ship, aircraft
    (conventional/HALE), spacecraft) dedicated to measuring, on a global scale, details of
    land, atmospheric, ice, ocean, biota status/“dynamics” (to understand total Earth
    “system” and effects of humans on the global environment)


    Extensive/magnificent/often redundant wide coverage and detailed instrumentation
    suite(s) (imaging radars/SARS/LIDARS/radar altimeters/laser
    altimeters/radiometers/scatterometers/spectrometers/IR sensors/ magnetomiters/etc.

    Terrabites+ of data archived/readily/publicably available increasingly in near real time

    Sample measurements include: OH, O3, HCI, NO, NO2, N2 O, CO, CH2 , HNO3 , CO2,
    H2 O, aerosols, wind speed/vector/profile(s), vegetation type, temperature profile(s),
    humidity profile(s), soil moisture/composition, snow cover/depth/moisture content,
    cloud/surface reflectance, sea ice type/coverage/temperature, ocean
    temperature(s)/sediments/topography/salinity/currents, magnetic field(s), surface
    emissivities/reflectance, leaf area index, land topography/use/temperature/cover, ice
    sheet elevation/topography gravity field/gradients, fires extension/temperature, 3-D
    cloud distributions/temperatures/ice content, pressure distribution(s), ocean wave
    heights/period(s)/direction(s)

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    – Drag Reduction (Wave/Friction/Drag-due-to-lift, Increased
    Dia.)
    – Hypersonic Maneuvering Boost-Glide
    – Drag Reduction (Wave/Friction/Drag-due-to-lift, Increased
    Dia.)
    – Hypersonic Maneuvering Boost-Glide
    Then Year, Global Targeting Capabilities
    are a Given – Major Issue is “Legs”/Range
    for Increasingly Miniaturized Affordable
    Payloads/Systems

    Range Enhancement Approaches:

    Airbreathing or “water breathing,” to first order doubles
    range

    Initial boost for cruise (ala Blast Wave Acceleror)

    HEDM Fuels [Atomic Boron, Carbon, Isomers, etc.)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Mini/micro/nano Sats, Cruise, UAV’s
    • Binary Bio Weaponry
    • Miniature/ubiquitous “smart mines”
    • Mini/micro/nano Sats, Cruise, UAV’s
    • Binary Bio Weaponry
    • Miniature/ubiquitous “smart mines”
    Summary – Major Influences
    of IT/Bio/Nano Upon
    Future Warfare

    Ubiquitous miniaturized/networked multi
    physics,hyperspectral sensors

    Robotics/Automatics “in the large”

    Long range precision strike/targeting

    Info/net Warfare
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Increasingly Critical Human
    Limitations/Downsides
    • Large
    Increasingly Critical Human
    Limitations/Downsides
    • Large
    • Heavy
    • Tender
    • Slow (Pysically, Mentally)
    • Require Huge Logistic Train(s)
    i.e. Humans have rapidly decreasing-tonegative
    “Value Added”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    ROBOTICS “IN THE LARGE”
    (saves lives, enhances affordability,
    redefines risk/threat environment,
    enhances effectiveness)
    ROBOTICS “IN THE LARGE”
    (saves lives, enhances affordability,
    redefines risk/threat environment,
    enhances effectiveness)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    “Unattended”
    – Munitions
    – Sensors
    – Platforms
    • Air (UAV’s)
    • Sea (UUV’s)
    • Land (UGV’s)
    • Logistics
    • Spoofing/obscurants
    • RSTA (including NBC)
    • Defense (across the board
    including counter
    recon/ambush)
    • Offense
    – Obstacle breaching
    – “The Shooter” (especially
    Mout)
    – Mine Clearing

    Emerging Characteristics
    of Robotic Systems
    (Enabled by Ongoing IT RevolutionsComms/
    Sensors/Computation/Miniaturization
    Emerging Characteristics
    of Robotic Systems
    (Enabled by Ongoing IT RevolutionsComms/
    Sensors/Computation/Miniaturization

    From expert systems toward AI and beyond

    Much more reactive than humans, greatly increased
    tempo

    Greatly improved hyperspectral sensors/data fusion

    Greatly improved accuracy and lethality
    • Greatly improved affordability/miniaturization
    • Redefines “risk,” minimal casualties, salutes CNN
    syndrome
    • Greatly reduced logistics
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Robotic Intelligence Robotic Intelligence
    • Two “flavors
    – Traditional AI – Rule Based
    – Experiential – Behavior Based (Neural
    Nets/other “Soft Computing”
    • Combination of these is current “best bet”
    (per Moravec) to produce artificial/cyber
    “life” which will possibly-to-probably be
    sentient but will not be anthropomorphic
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    WHAT IS BEYOND ROBOTIC SYSTEMS
    (SENSORS/PLATFORMS/WEAPONS/
    MUNITIONS)
    • Robotic/automatic autonomous warfare?
    WHAT IS BEYOND ROBOTIC SYSTEMS
    (SENSORS/PLATFORMS/WEAPONS/
    MUNITIONS)
    • Robotic/automatic autonomous warfare?

    Computer capability will exist (beyond terra flop) to do “AI” (or better?),
    required connectivity is a “given”

    Competitor capabilities /tempo sidelines the innate inadequacies of
    human interactions/education/conscious decision timelines

    Little-to-no “troops” “Acme warfare Ltd.”

    Flat hierarchy demise of “main in the chair?”
    – High level/”soft sciences” human aspects “boundary conditions”
    • Sociological/”humanitarian”
    • Political
    • Environmental
    • Religious
    • Psychological
    • Economics
    • Etc.
    Extent/scale, projected effects/
    Damage(s), personnel attrition
    (general-to-specific)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Non-Explosive Warfare”
    • IW/IO
    “Non-Explosive Warfare”
    • IW/IO
    • PSYWAR “In-the-Large”
    • Anti-Functionals
    – MW
    – Chem
    – Bio
    – Micro-Mechanical
    • Anti-Personnel MW/RF, Micro-Mechanical
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Natural Warfare”
    • Sensors:
    “Natural Warfare”
    • Sensors:
    – Utilize insitu plants/animals/insects as sensor
    platforms/instruments to indicate
    presence/movement/characteristics
    • Weapons/Munitions:
    – Utilize animals (e.g. urban rats)/insects as
    “delivery systems”/munitions (“feeding,”
    swarming, biting, poisoning)
    – Utilize insitu explosive/destructive capability
    (e.g. offshore Methane Hydrate, Dams, etc.)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Characteristics – Future/Emerging
    Sensors/Munitions/Weapons/Platforms
    • Inexpensive
    Characteristics – Future/Emerging
    Sensors/Munitions/Weapons/Platforms
    • Inexpensive
    • Numerous-to-Hordes/Clouds/Swarms
    • Small/light/ubiquitous
    • Readily Available (Largely Comm. Tech.)
    • Long Range
    • “Volumetric” or “Precise”
    • Both “Explosive” and “Non-Explosive”
    • Smart-to-Brilliant
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Potential Future “Orders of
    Magnitude” Increases in Overall
    Weapon Effectiveness/Availability at
    Orders of Magnitude Reduced Cost(s)
    Potential Future “Orders of
    Magnitude” Increases in Overall
    Weapon Effectiveness/Availability at
    Orders of Magnitude Reduced Cost(s)
    • Bio/Chem/Molec./Nano Computing – (E6)
    • Ubiquitous Optical Comms – (E4)
    • Micro/Nano/Ubiquitous Sensors – (E4)
    • BioWeaponry – (EN)
    • Co-operative Swarms of Cheap/Small
    Weapons/Sensors – (E4)
    • Volumetric Weaponry – (E4)
    • Cyber/Artificial Life (Beyond AI) – (E?)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Major (Anti-U.S.) Asymmetries
    • Long increasingly vulnerable logistics chain
    Major (Anti-U.S.) Asymmetries
    • Long increasingly vulnerable logistics chain

    Long, “undefendable” coastline (esp. against
    underwater threats)

    Sensitivity to casualties (greatly enhanced by
    the “CNN syndrome”)
    • Vulnerabilities to “terrorism” (esp. IT, bio)
    • Increasing over reliance upon vulnerable
    “overhead” assets
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Potential En-route
    Logistic Vulnerabilities
    Logistic surface ships and aircraft are non-LO
    Potential En-route
    Logistic Vulnerabilities
    Logistic surface ships and aircraft are non-LO
    and undefended, could be targeted and attrited
    inside the continental shelf by:
    -“Eggs” [subsurface floating encapsulated
    missiles implanted by freighters/SS/air]
    -SS [torps/missiles/subsam]

    -Transoceanic UUV’s, UAV’s, USV’s
    -Blast wave accelerator
    -Cruise, TBM’s
    -MINES

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Fundamental Problem With
    Future U.S. Power Projection
    • “EAN” can have “country sized magazines”
    Fundamental Problem With
    Future U.S. Power Projection
    • “EAN” can have “country sized magazines”
    filled with hordes of inexpensive Precision
    strike “Munitions” – Area Denial


    U.S. Forces run out of “bullets” and die
    [Beam weapons not panacea, inexpensive
    workarounds available]
    • Deep Water Subs with large loadout/“swimin”
    weaponry only survivable “Close-in” platform
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Sampling of TBM/Cruise Missile “Penaids”
    (Derived from Extensive Worldwide
    ICBM/IRBM RV Cold War Defensive/Offensive
    Studies Over Some Three Decades
    Sampling of TBM/Cruise Missile “Penaids”
    (Derived from Extensive Worldwide
    ICBM/IRBM RV Cold War Defensive/Offensive
    Studies Over Some Three Decades

    Decoys (anti-sensor)

    Ablative/subliming coatings (thermal [laser/mw]
    protection)

    Fluid injection (laser protection)

    Wake modification(s) (anti-sensor)

    Electronic/optical “shielding” (MW protection)
    • RAM/RAS/shaping (anti-sensor)
    e.g., current efforts involving beam weapons (laser, MW)
    “kills” of undefended”/“unpenaided” “dumb” incoming
    NOT REALISTIC

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Optical GPS • Optical GPS
    Potential “Workarounds” for Beam
    Weapon Effects on Missile
    Sensors/Comms

    Off board sensors
    (networked, everywhere, on everything)

    Optical Comms

    Optical/fluidic Computing
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Example ‘Then Year” Direct
    Conus Attack Capabilities
    [~80% of CONUS population/infrastructure
    Example ‘Then Year” Direct
    Conus Attack Capabilities
    [~80% of CONUS population/infrastructure
    within ~ 50 Miles of a “coastline”]

    • Inexp. Transoceanic UUV’s/UAV’s/Cruise
    • Inexp. Blast Wave Accelerators
    • Inexp. Info/Net/Psywar
    • Inexp. Inshore AIP SS [mines/torps/SLCM]
    • Inexp. Binary Bio into Food Supply
    • Inexp. Semi-submerged Missile “eggs”
    • Inexp. ‘Trojan Horse” “civilian” systems
    [Above in addition to ICBM/TBM]

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Unconventional” Nuc Delivery “Unconventional” Nuc Delivery

    Sink a ship offshore, detonate to produce Tidal
    Waves with Radioactive spume

    Transcontinental UAV’s, UUV’s (nano, AI)

    Ballons with GPS sport ‘chutes

    Ganged Micro Rockets (ala MIT)
    • Trojan Horse Everything (ships, boats, planes,
    cars, trucks, packages, cargo, containers)
    – Targeted “Effects” include Tidal Waves, EMP,
    Earthquakes, Radiation, Blast
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    (Civilian) IW Examples/CONUS
    • (National) Banking System Computers
    (Civilian) IW Examples/CONUS
    • (National) Banking System Computers

    3 sites/nodes – HE/EMP/IW/C/B (attack buildings,
    power, software, hardware)

    Interruptions in National/International Payments
    system irrecoverable

    Railroads

    4 sites, attack options as above
    – All freight cars networked, “everyone” on “just in
    time,” no reserves/stockpiles
    – Takes down Auto Industry, power grid, chicken
    farms, all movements of “War Materials,” ETC!!!
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    The Revolutionary
    Size/Capability/Cost Warfighting Spiral
    1 Commercial electronics/GNC/Comms/Sensors (Much
    The Revolutionary
    Size/Capability/Cost Warfighting Spiral
    1 Commercial electronics/GNC/Comms/Sensors (Much
    smaller/cheaper/better – Allows:
    2 IO and “Precision” – Reduces Reqd. munition size and

    Numbers much-Leads to:
    3 Small/Light/Deadly/Inexpensive Munitions 4
    Which Reduces requisite Platform size/cost

    5 Which is reduced still further by (also enabled)
    “Automatics/Robotics” – Uninhabited
    6 Combined with Much lighter/cheaper Revol.
    Materials/Fabrication for structure and energetics
    (propul./warhead) – Yields “Cheap Warfare”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    And Then There Is NANO …

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future Warfare
    “On The Cheap”
    • Info/net warfare
    • Binary bio [anti-functional/fauna]
    Future Warfare
    “On The Cheap”
    • Info/net warfare
    • Binary bio [anti-functional/fauna]
    • Non-lethals
    • Miniature brilliant sensor-mines
    • Micro/Nano Sats
    • LO/Long leg/precision
    UUV’s/UAV’s/Cruise
    • Inexp./Superb/survivability ISR/comms
    • Blast wave accelerator
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Then Year”
    “Peer Competitors”
    “Then Year”
    “Peer Competitors”
    Peer Competitor no longer defined by
    “megatonnage” of obsolescent Industrial
    age steel and aluminum Artifacts. The
    Drastically reduced entry investment
    enabled by “Warfare on the Cheap”

    ensures almost any nation or sizable
    organization can be a very worrisome
    Military “peer.”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    littoral regions
    • Demise of “stealth” via ubiquitous multi-
    static, multi-physics sensors operated on
    littoral regions
    • Demise of “stealth” via ubiquitous multi-
    static, multi-physics sensors operated on
    SOME INTERESTING POSSIBILITIES
    • Surreptitious nano “tagging” (with MW
    interrogation) of “everything/everyone”
    (imprinted during
    manufacture/maintenance etc.)


    Detonation of offshore seabed methane
    hydrate deposits to produce
    tactical/strategic level tidal waves against
    “take-a-vote”

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Anti-Access”
    • MINES
    • Hordes/Swarms (country-sized/dispersed
    “Anti-Access”
    • MINES
    • Hordes/Swarms (country-sized/dispersed
    magazines) of small/inexpensive/brilliant
    cruise/UAVs, micro rockets, BWA/slingatron
    projectiles, UUVs (e.g. RPGs on jet skis)

    • Tyvek nets
    • Attrite/“take out”/threaten APODS/SPODS
    • EMP, IW/IO
    • TBM/Cruise/HPM/Lasers
    • “The Sensor Web”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Counters to U.S. “Information
    Dominance”
    • EMP (“conventional,” Isomers/other HEDM,
    Counters to U.S. “Information
    Dominance”
    • EMP (“conventional,” Isomers/other HEDM,
    Nuc.)

    • Jammers “in the Large”
    • “Fry” (MW, Lasers), “Blowup”
    • Anti-Sensor (various, include D&D)
    • “Software”
    (subvert/deception/decimation/Trojan
    Horse/viruses/etc., other IO/IW)
    • “Chaos” (Excite circuit nonlinearitys)
    • PSYWAR
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Counter U.S. Logistics
    • Take out pre-positioned everything
    • Ubiquitous nano inexpensive multiphysics,
    hyperspectral land/sea/air/space military, scientific,
    Counter U.S. Logistics
    • Take out pre-positioned everything
    • Ubiquitous nano inexpensive multiphysics,
    hyperspectral land/sea/air/space military, scientific,
    commercial sensors; Nano tags (aka “The Sensor Web”)


    Target/attrite logistic air/sea lift over continental shelf
    via Brilliant mines, cruise, UAVs, UUVs, TBMs, Micro
    missiles, prepositioned semi-submerged missile “eggs,”
    AI/vortex SS weaponry (include Subsam), BWA,
    slingatron, Automatic MANPADS in CONUS (via
    Blast/EMP etc.)
    • Small number of military ports/airfields in CONUS;
    C-17/5/141, Ro-Ro/other ships, trains inside CONUS are
    non LO, undefended
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Anti-U.S. RMA “Strategies/Tactics”
    • Threaten Bio to force “suit-up”/degrade effectiveness
    Anti-U.S. RMA “Strategies/Tactics”
    • Threaten Bio to force “suit-up”/degrade effectiveness

    Keep forces beyond range of short-legged fighters

    Attrite JSTARS/AWACS/ABL/Missile “cows” etc.
    platforms

    Miniaturize/Disperse EVERYTHING – no large/massed/
    interesting targets

    Use “Hard to Degrade”/Jam optical Comms/GPS
    • Operate out of cities/International Commercial Entities
    • Degrade U.S. Info Dominance
    • Machine Intell. “automatic warfare,” (much) tighter
    OUDA loop (faster than Human ops)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Exploit “CNN Syndrome” Exploit “CNN Syndrome”

    Sink Carrier(s) via “swarm attacks”

    Capture/torture Americans in living color on
    prime time
    • “Terror” attacks within CONUS (binary bio,
    critical infrastructure “takedown,” IO/IW,
    EMP, RF against Brain, etc.)
    • Serious “Psywar” (collateral damage
    exploitation, etc.)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    The Key Technologies
    • Free form/“point of use” fabrication
    • Beyond silicon computing (quantum, optical, bio, nano, molec.
    • Optical comms/nav
    The Key Technologies
    • Free form/“point of use” fabrication
    • Beyond silicon computing (quantum, optical, bio, nano, molec.
    • Optical comms/nav

    Nano sensors/tags/materials/bots/GNC

    HEDM explosives and propellants (NANO POWDERS,
    CUBANES, SBER, ISOMERS, LENR, THERMOBARICS, F-S
    LASERS/4TH GEN NUCS)

    Anti-personnel/material (Binary) Bio, MW
    • Robotics/Machine Intelligence
    • Miniaturized/brilliant/lightweight/low-power/inexpensive
    swarms of everything (SATS, weapons, robots, sensors, mines,
    etc.)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Fundamental Military
    Issues/Metrics
    • Affordability [“Warfare on the Cheap”]
    Fundamental Military
    Issues/Metrics
    • Affordability [“Warfare on the Cheap”]
    • Survivability [“Can see everything,
    Anything you can see you can kill”]
    • Effectiveness [Lethality of Precision and
    Volumetric weaponry]
    I.E. Simultaneous ongoing Revolutions in
    all three of the major Warfare Metrics
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Given the Superb/Ubiquitous World
    Wide Sensor Suites and Precision
    Strike Capabilities “Then Year” the
    Given the Superb/Ubiquitous World
    Wide Sensor Suites and Precision
    Strike Capabilities “Then Year” the
    Following WILL NOT BE SURVIVABLE

    • APODS/SPODS
    • Runways
    • Surface Ships
    • Manned (logistic/combat) Aircraft
    • Manned (logistic/combat) Ground Vehicles
    Due to their size & (multi-physics)
    signatures
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    CONCERNING (CURRENT) FARTHER TERM
    (U.S.) DEFENSE “STRATEGIC STUDIES”
    • Almost wholly dedicated to/concentrated on
    CONCERNING (CURRENT) FARTHER TERM
    (U.S.) DEFENSE “STRATEGIC STUDIES”
    • Almost wholly dedicated to/concentrated on
    offensive operations (DOO?)


    Across the board (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines,
    OSD)

    (Apparent) wholly inadequate consideration of
    defense
    – Defense of Conus, especially from short time of
    flight inshore undersea attack
    – Defense of the offensive forces [especially in terms of
    the “enemy after next” capabilities definitization
    and response(s) thereto]
    – Defense of the logistics assets, especially “out of
    theater”

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Typical Scenario – “Takedown”
    of U.S. by 10 People and <$10M
    • Binary Bio [via (imported Vitamins/Clothing,
    Typical Scenario – “Takedown”
    of U.S. by 10 People and <$10M
    • Binary Bio [via (imported Vitamins/Clothing,
    etc., food supply(s)]

    • Terror Bio (e.g. Aflatoxin)
    • IW (“usual” plus physical against key nodes
    such as Railroads – take down the economy)
    • Selective anti-personnel RF/MW (Towers)
    • Water Supply Contamination via
    Intercontinental UAV’s
    Accompanied by SERIOUS “PSYWAR”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Trends Summary
    • Tele-everything
    • U.S. just “one of the crowd” economically
    Trends Summary
    • Tele-everything
    • U.S. just “one of the crowd” economically

    “Warfare on the cheap,” many potential
    “peers”

    Warfare Increasingly Robotic

    Survivable/Affordable power projection
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    via deep water subs and Blast Wave
    Accelerators
    • CONUS and Logistics Defense
    increasingly worrisome

    FROM U.S. COMMISSION ON
    NATIONAL SECURITY/21ST CENTURY
    • It will soon be possible to connect human brain
    FROM U.S. COMMISSION ON
    NATIONAL SECURITY/21ST CENTURY
    • It will soon be possible to connect human brain
    cells to silicon chips


    Due to IT technology we will witness the “death
    of distance”

    More than 2/3rds of the satellites are foreign
    owned
    • Large scale missile attacks will be able to
    overwhelm defensive systems
    • Development of genetically engineered
    pathogens that will thwart our bio
    detection/defense measures/cycles

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Circa 2025”
    • Machines as creative/“smart” as humans
    “Circa 2025”
    • Machines as creative/“smart” as humans
    “Robotics” the “norm”


    Zeroth order “warstopper” – Binary bio into
    nation’s agric./food distrib. system (every
    home/fox hole)
    • Next level of concern: Ubiquitous/Cheap
    micro-to-nano EVERYTHING (sensors,
    munitions, weapons swarms/hordes)
    • Battlefield attrition/CNN syndrome forces
    U.S. Army to look/act like SOCOM
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    (Suggested) Major U.S. Future
    (2025) Warfare Issues
    • CONUS Defense (Requirement(s) for, potential
    (Suggested) Major U.S. Future
    (2025) Warfare Issues
    • CONUS Defense (Requirement(s) for, potential
    approaches)


    Logistics Defense/Protection (in/out of theater)

    Survivability/Effectiveness of U.S. Forces
    on/near the “Killing Ground” in an era of
    affordable ubiquitous multiphysics
    hyperspectral sensors, precision strike,
    volumetric weaponry, “swarms” and hardened
    munitions
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Approaches (e.g. Deep Water
    depth/death sphere, blast wave
    accelerator, etc.)
    Approaches (e.g. Deep Water
    depth/death sphere, blast wave
    accelerator, etc.)
    • “Non-explosive Warfare” (psywar,
    biowar IT/net war, “anti-operability
    war,” Beam weaponry including RF,
    Spoofing/Cammo


    Robotic Warfare “in the large”/better
    than human AI/“Cyber life”

    Alternative Power Projection
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future “Power Projection”? Future “Power Projection”?

    Humans “hold” instead of “take” ground
    (go in after “Sanitization”)

    Sanitization via:

    IW/Psywar

    Global Reach “Guns” (BWA/Slingatron)
    – Deep water/large loadout Subs w/“swimins”
    – “Robotic Everything” w/Volumetric
    weaponry, non-explosive warfare
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future(s) of SOF
    • Becomes THE (only survivable) HUMAN Strike
    Future(s) of SOF
    • Becomes THE (only survivable) HUMAN Strike
    Force (Army/Marines forced to become “SOF-Like”)


    Increasingly The “Overseas FBI” to counter the
    increasingly capable (IO/Bio WMD) & horrific
    destructive power of INDIVIDUALS and Groups
    • Ops involve increasingly difficult-to-deal-with omnipresent/
    omni-physics sensor/ID suites, Few-to-No
    exploitable Interstices for Covert/Clandestine
    “work” – THE Challenge
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future “Warfare”
    • “Defense” against the “then year” multitudinous
    conventional and unconventional delivery
    Future “Warfare”
    • “Defense” against the “then year” multitudinous
    conventional and unconventional delivery
    methods for volumetric and precision munitions
    is essentially neither doable nor affordable.


    Suggested National Defense Approaches:

    Work Technology, Intel, Diplomacy, SOCOM for
    detection/interdiction/deflection of the “pre-delivery”
    phases (causes of war, motivational and decision
    processes, design and construction, test)
    – Work and ADVERTISE a REALLY EFFECTIVE
    RETRIBUTION to deter delivery (ala MAD)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    IT/Bio/Nano Societal
    Disruption
    Everyone IT/Bio/’Bots IT/Bio/Nano Societal
    Disruption
    Everyone IT/Bio/’Bots
    Changing Nature of Warfare
    Hunter/
    Hunting TribalBands Hand Held/
    Grounds Thrown

    Gatherer

    Agricultural Farm Lands Prof.Armies
    Hand Held/
    Thrown

    Industrial Natural Mass Levee Mech./Chem.
    Resources

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • “The path from todays systems and
    capabilities to those hypothesized for the
    future (2020+)”
    • “The path from todays systems and
    capabilities to those hypothesized for the
    future (2020+)”
    RMA Planning “Shortfalls”
    (NPS)

    “Indications of the innovative paths
    adversaries might take or how they might
    adapt technologies from the civilian
    world”
    (Being worked in the “Technical War
    Games”)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    What is needed is a “Then Year” (~2030)
    Serious/Holistic Vision of Warfare Changes
    Resulting from the On-going
    IT/Bio/Nano/Virtual Technological Revolutions
    What is needed is a “Then Year” (~2030)
    Serious/Holistic Vision of Warfare Changes
    Resulting from the On-going
    IT/Bio/Nano/Virtual Technological Revolutions
    • Such does not exist, “bumper sticker” attempts
    extant.
    • All are agreed, warfare will become increasingly
    robotic and probably more affordable, swarms of
    sensors/shooters are a given.
    • A longer term “Vision” of these changes would
    enable “mapping” from the present, NOT AT ALL
    CLEAR HOW TO “Get There From Here” as do
    not know where “there” is!
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “War between mass armies weighed down
    with baroque equipment has become a third
    world sport. The advanced world, too
    “War between mass armies weighed down
    with baroque equipment has become a third
    world sport. The advanced world, too
    vulnerable to survive a war of attrition or
    mass destruction, must learn to conduct its
    affairs by the Rapier–by the threat or use of
    small specialized forces exploiting high
    tempo and strategic surprise”

    R. E. Simpkin, “Race to the Swift: 1985
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    In the second half of the 1900’s
    Nuclear/Bio Warfare was
    “Unthinkable”
    In the second half of the 1900’s
    Nuclear/Bio Warfare was
    “Unthinkable”
    In the first half of the 2000’s
    “conventional” warfare may
    become so deadly/effective as to

    become “Unthinkable” (“Killer
    Aps” available to mitigate the
    “Causes of War”)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    PREEMPTION/RETRIBUTION –
    SOF (Foreign)
    PREEMPTION/RETRIBUTION –
    SOF (Foreign)
    Approaches to Countering
    Group/Individual Deployment of
    IO/Bio WMD
    PREVENTION

    -Universal inexpensive Web based educ.
    -Biomass via sea water irrigation
    DISCOVERY –
    All Source Intel/Fusion/AI Analysis
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    (Usual) Reactions to
    this Presentation
    • Is in the “Too Hard Box”
    (Usual) Reactions to
    this Presentation
    • Is in the “Too Hard Box”

    Not being done yet by anyone, therefore, will
    not be done

    They would not do that

    We have to Hope they would not do that
    • Why go there, cannot defend against it
    • Some Disbelief, but agreement there is too
    much there to disregard
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

  90. A World Made by the NSA Hand June 25, 2013 at 9:27 pm #

    A World Made by Hand, 2001 plans for 2020 NASA/NSA, written just a few months before 911.

    Forget about Jim’s ‘world made by hand’, read this one, and deal with reality.

    ***

    Future Strategic Issues/Future
    Dennis M. Bushnell
    Chief Scientist
    NASA Langley Research Center
    Future Strategic Issues/Future
    Dennis M. Bushnell
    Chief Scientist
    NASA Langley Research Center
    Warfare [Circa 2025]

    • Capabilities of the “Enemy After Next”
    -Ongoing Worldwide Technological
    Revolutions

    -Economic Trends
    • Potential Nature of Farther Term
    Warfare
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    The ‘Bots, ‘Borgs, ‘& Humans
    Welcome You to
    2025 A.D.

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    THIS PRESENTATION BASED ON
    “FUTURES” WORK FOR/WITH
    • USAF NWV
    THIS PRESENTATION BASED ON
    “FUTURES” WORK FOR/WITH
    • USAF NWV
    • Australian DOD
    • NRO, DSB
    • MSIC, TRADOC, QDR
    • NGIC, JWAC, NAIC
    • JFCOM, TACOM
    • SACLANT, OOTW

    DARPA, SBCCOM

    USAF 2025 • DIA, AFSOC, EB, AU

    National Research • CIA, STIC, L-M, IDA
    Council

    APL, ONA, SEALS

    Army After Next

    ONI, FBI, AWC/SSI

    ACOM Joint Futures

    NSAP, SOCOM, CNO

    SSG of the CNO
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Is meant to incite thought/ discussion
    THIS PRESENTATION
    • Is meant to incite thought/ discussion
    THIS PRESENTATION

    Is based in all cases upon existing
    data/trends/analyses/technologies (e.g., NO
    PIXIE DUST)

    Provides in some cases a somewhat broader
    view of prospective developments and
    issues
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Utilization/Application of
    2025+ Projections
    Utilization/Application of
    2025+ Projections
    • Inputs to Future Warfighting Concepts
    Development(s) (Enemy After Next &
    Blue)
    • Inputs to New Procurement Decision (15+
    years to Produce, 40+ years in Inventory
    • “Heads Up” for Intel Community
    (“Watches and Warnings”)
    • Inputs to DOD R&D Planning
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Going In” Assumptions
    • Politics can/does change “overnight” (e.g.
    “Going In” Assumptions
    • Politics can/does change “overnight” (e.g.
    Russia, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, etc.), Potential
    CAPABILITIES is the future warfare issue,
    not Who but WHAT

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Need to Plan “Differently”
    • WORLD is in the throes of
    Need to Plan “Differently”
    • WORLD is in the throes of
    triple/exponential (IT/Bio/Nano)
    Technological Revolutions


    Changes occurring at scales of months
    (instead of decades)
    • Zeroth order potential effects upon
    Defense/Offense equipment/conops/threat
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “SPACESHIP EARTH”
    The crew are:
    “SPACESHIP EARTH”
    The crew are:
    -Plundering the ship’s supplies
    -Tinkering with the temperature and life-support

    controls
    -Still looking for the instruction manual
    -Engaging in bloody skirmishes in every corner of

    the vessel
    -Increasing the size of the crew by 2 million
    PER WEEK
    P. Creola
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Humans Have “Taken Over” and
    Vastly Shortened “Evolution”
    • Of the Planet
    Humans Have “Taken Over” and
    Vastly Shortened “Evolution”
    • Of the Planet
    – Global Warming/Pollution/Deforestation
    – Huge “Public Work” (e.g. 3 Gorges Dam)
    • Of the Human Species
    – Genomic Design and Repair
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    – “Mind Children” (Moravec)
    • Products/Life Forms
    – Cross Species Molecular Breeding
    – “Directed Evolution” (Maxygen etc.)

    CURRENTLY
    • Order of 70% of Worlds Research
    CURRENTLY
    • Order of 70% of Worlds Research
    conducted outside of U.S. (to first order,
    a % of GDP, U.S. produces order of 18%
    of worlds GDP)

    • Order of 70% of U.S. Research now
    “Commercial” (as opposed to
    Government sponsored)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    NanoTechnology Research
    • 29% in Europe
    NanoTechnology Research
    • 29% in Europe
    • 28% in Japan
    • 27% in U.S.
    • 16% “Other(s)”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Bio/NANO [2020-?]
    • Virtual
    • Bio/NANO [2020-?]
    • Virtual
    Technological Ages of
    Humankind

    Hunter/Killer groups [Million BC~10K
    BC]

    Agriculture [10K BC~1800 AD]

    Industrial [1800~1950]

    IT [1950~2020]
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Hunter-Gatherer – “Nature Provided” • Hunter-Gatherer – “Nature Provided”

    Agriculture – Controlled Nature
    (Plants/Animals)

    Industrial – Mechanized Agriculture

    IT/BIO/Nano – Automating
    Industry/Agriculture
    • Virtual -Robotization of
    IT/Bio/Nano/Industry/Agriculture
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    KEY “FUTURE TECHNOLOGIES”
    (all highly synergistic/at the frontiers of the small,
    in a “feeding frenzy” off each other)
    • IT
    KEY “FUTURE TECHNOLOGIES”
    (all highly synergistic/at the frontiers of the small,
    in a “feeding frenzy” off each other)
    • IT

    Silicon/bio/optical/quantum/nano computing (“no end in sight,” another 106 +)

    (Virtual reality/holographic) immersive ubiquitous comms., hyperspectral sensors,
    “virtual presence”

    Automatic/robotic “everything”

    Huge cost reductions

    Bio

    Life span doubling
    – Genetic engineering before birth
    – Plants irrigated by seawater (food, petro-chem feed stock, minerals, terraforming)
    • Nano
    – Carbon nanotubes (600X strength-to-weight of steel)
    – “Assemblers”/“living factories”
    – Huge cost reductions
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Worldwide IT Revolution
    • Comms/Computing/Sensors/Electronics
    Worldwide IT Revolution
    • Comms/Computing/Sensors/Electronics
    • Ubiquitous multi physics/hyperspectral sensors
    [land/sea/air/space]
    • Micro/Nano sats/GNC/sensors,etc.

    U.S. Commercial IT R&D ~ $100B/yr.

    Factor of 1 Million further improvement
    [Silicon,Molecular,Quantum,Bio,Optical]

    Beyond Human AI?

    Automatics/Robotics “in the large”

    Immersive multi-sensory VR/”Holodecks”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Tele-commerce
    • Tele-politics
    • Tele-socialization
    • Tele-commerce
    • Tele-politics
    • Tele-socialization
    [Worldwide] Impacts of Ongoing IT
    Revolution Upon Society
    • Tele-commuting
    • Tele-shopping
    • Tele-entertainment
    • Tele-travel
    • Tele-Education
    • Tele-medicine
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    IT Status
    • 10E6 improvements in Computing since ‘59,
    10E8 further possible next 30 years
    IT Status
    • 10E6 improvements in Computing since ‘59,
    10E8 further possible next 30 years
    (10E3 provides “better than Human”
    capabilities)


    100 Million Telecommuters Worldwide NOW
    (expected to at least double in 15 years)
    • India graduates three times more software
    engineers than the U.S., More software written
    in Bangalore than Southern CA
    • IW effectively constitutes a 4th WMD
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    SOME IT “PREDICTIONS”
    • Quantum computing initially available in
    SOME IT “PREDICTIONS”
    • Quantum computing initially available in
    5 years


    15% of all power today is used by
    computers, will reach 60% by 2010

    Wearable/implantable (on-person)
    electronics–comms, computing, sensory
    augmentation, health monitoring, brain
    stimulation
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    AI (AND BEYOND) COMPUTING
    • 100 billion neurons
    • 100 trillion connections
    Human Brain Characteristics/Capabilities
    AI (AND BEYOND) COMPUTING
    • 100 billion neurons
    • 100 trillion connections
    Human Brain Characteristics/Capabilities

    200 calculations/second, (slow) speed of neural circuitry

    20 million billion calculations/second

    Excellent at (parallel-computing) pattern recognition, “poor” at
    sequential thinking

    Operates via “random tries”
    • Currently, 10,000 billion calculations/second; 100,000 billion by 2004
    • By 2010, 20 million billion is available (by 2025, on a PC)
    • By 2030, PC has collective computing power of a town full of human
    minds
    Machine Capabilities
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    U.S. “HUMAN BRAIN PROJECT”
    • Begun in early 90’s, funded by 16 organizations across
    U.S. “HUMAN BRAIN PROJECT”
    • Begun in early 90’s, funded by 16 organizations across
    5 agencies (NIH, NSF, DOD, NASA, DOE)


    AKA “Neuroinformatics” (intersection of neuroscience
    and informatics)
    • “Exploding field;” 10,000 individual presentations at
    annual meeting of Society for Neuroscience (from
    molecular geneticists to cognitive psychologists)
    • Determining detailed neuroanatomy of human brain
    (“digital brain atlas”)
    • Use of IT to study brain, use of brain info to aid IT/AI
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    concepts, etc. An attendant neural net used to
    capture/record/evaluate and report on these
    “writings.”
    concepts, etc. An attendant neural net used to
    capture/record/evaluate and report on these
    “writings.”
    THE “IMAGINATION ENGINE”
    aka “Creativity Machine,”
    aka “Creative Agent”

    Current AI “best bet,” not a rule based/expert
    system

    GENERATES new ideas/concepts via starving
    a trained neural net of meaningful inputs,
    forcing it to “dream”/”cavitate,” create new
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “In this [Worldwide] economy our
    ability to create wealth is not
    bounded by physical
    “In this [Worldwide] economy our
    ability to create wealth is not
    bounded by physical
    limits/resources but by our ability
    to come up with new ideas”
    [However,even “universal wealth”
    will not obviate the other causes of

    warfare which include
    Politics,”Face”,Religion,
    Megalomania and Territorial
    Disputes]
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Global Problems/“Solutions”
    • (Serious) Problems • “Killer Ap Solutions”
    Global Problems/“Solutions”
    • (Serious) Problems • “Killer Ap Solutions”

    Energy (2) – (1) Motivational/inexpensive
    Web-based Asynchronous
    – Water (2)
    “Distance Learning”

    – Food (2)
    – (2) Bio mass/food via seawater
    – Land (2)
    irrigation in current

    – Population Growth (1)
    – Wealth Generation (1)
    – “Pollution/Warming” (2)
    “wastelands”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Inexpensive Motivational
    Asynchronous Web-Based
    Distance Education Enables:
    Inexpensive Motivational
    Asynchronous Web-Based
    Distance Education Enables:
    • Demise of the U.S. “underclasses”
    • Wealth Creation from enabled “Invention”
    • Stabilization of World Population
    • [Even More] Rapid Technology Diffusion
    • Equalization of “Haves” and “Havenots”
    • Altered Political/military outlooks Worldwide
    – I.E. Changes “Everything”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Motivational learner/web-based asynchronous
    distance learning allows only method of providing
    requisite/improved educational
    – BREADTH
    – DEPTH
    Motivational learner/web-based asynchronous
    distance learning allows only method of providing
    requisite/improved educational
    – BREADTH
    – DEPTH
    – QUALITY
    – RESPONSIVENESS to shifting global
    economic warfare requirements/ accelerated
    increase in knowledge
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    At orders of magnitude
    (1) reduced societal/individual cost
    (2) increased convenience/accessibility

    By ~ 2025, 40% of Private and
    15% of Public Colleges and
    By ~ 2025, 40% of Private and
    15% of Public Colleges and
    Universities are Expected to
    Close Due to Web-Based
    Competition

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    A Northern VA Business man
    recently donated ~ $100M to set up a
    FREE Ivy League Class On-Line
    University

    The “Ultimate” Education The “Ultimate” Education
    Approach – Plug and Play

    Direct Silicon (or other such) device
    connection to brain, (very rapid)

    uploads, Education in minutes
    instead of (many) years
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Advantages of Shallow Sea/Desert
    Production of Biomass (Via Seawater
    Irrigation)
    Advantages of Shallow Sea/Desert
    Production of Biomass (Via Seawater
    Irrigation)
    • Closed CO2 Cycle (Obviates Global Warming)
    • Food
    • Petro-chemical feedstock
    – Materials/clothing, etc.
    – ENERGY (end reliance on Middle East)
    • Terraforming, alter desertification etc.
    • Preservation/Production of Fresh Water
    • Rich Mineral source (Seawater)
    • Utilization of “Wastelands” (Sahara, etc.)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Probable Circa 2025
    Societal Changes
    • (Much) Increased Life Span (Bio)
    Probable Circa 2025
    Societal Changes
    • (Much) Increased Life Span (Bio)
    • “Solution” to Energy/Water/“Warming” (Bio)
    • (Far More) Global Distribution of Technology,
    Education, Economics, Wealth (IT)
    • (Tremendous) Increases in Capability of
    Automatic/Robotic “Everythings” (IT/Bio/Nano)
    – Resulting in Reduced Tensions Associated with
    “Have/Have Nots” and Historical/Religious Issues
    – Also Resulting in (Greatly) Increased Individual destructive
    power (Bio, IW, etc.) and General Societal Disaffection
    WRT “Machines”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Major Emerging Law
    Enforcement “Issues”
    Major Emerging Law
    Enforcement “Issues”
    • Privacy (Ubiquitous micro/nano sensors)
    • IT/Net Crime (wide spectrum)
    • Bio Crime (binary pathogens, genetics)
    • Protection of Human Electronic Implants
    • Protection of CONUS (Beyond Terrorism)
    • Societal Disaffection/Upheaval Caused by
    Rapid Technological Change(s) (Road/Air
    Rage, Psychosomatic Illnesses, Withdrawal)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Of Particular Concern Of Particular Concern
    Uncontrolled/Uncontrollable
    SELF-REPLICATION
    Of
    – Brilliant Robots (IT)

    – Nano-Replicators (Nano)
    – Rampant Recombinant Bio
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Current Competitive
    Landscape
    Current Competitive
    Landscape

    U.S. produces only 18% of Worlds GDP

    ~70% of Research conducted offshore

    $400B/yr trade deficit

    32 other nations devote a larger % of their
    GDP to Research
    • 5th in No of R&D personnel/labor unit
    • 3% savings rate vs. 30% in Asia
    • 13th out of 30 – Student Math/Science Scores
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    AN EMERGING MULTIPOLAR
    ECONOMIC WORLD
    Percentage Share of Global GDP Source: OCED, The World in 2020, p. 92
    25
    20
    15
    10
    5
    0
    U.S.
    Europe
    China
    India
    Japan
    Brazil
    1995 2020 2020
    Low-Growth High-Growth
    OECD SCENARIOS
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    AN EMERGING MULTIPOLAR
    ECONOMIC WORLD
    Percentage Share of Global GDP Source: OCED, The World in 2020, p. 92
    25
    20
    15
    10
    5
    0
    U.S.
    Europe
    China
    India
    Japan
    Brazil
    1995 2020 2020
    Low-Growth High-Growth
    OECD SCENARIOS

    Bio Revolution Applications
    • “Pharm Animals” [drugs, spare parts]
    Bio Revolution Applications
    • “Pharm Animals” [drugs, spare parts]

    Fast Growing plants on/near sea surface
    & sea water irrigated plants for biomass
    energy/closed CO2 cycle

    Polymer growing plants

    Spider genes in goats allow spider silk
    spinning from goat milk for “Biosteel”,
    3.5X strength of aramid fibers for Armor
    • Binary Bio-weaponry
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Examples
    Confluence of IT/Bio/Nano
    Examples
    Confluence of IT/Bio/Nano

    Brain of a sea lampry inserted/connected
    to body of a robotic fish (an initial
    cyborg)

    “Chew-Chew” – a flesh/plant eating robot
    that hunts/bio-digests “natural foods” to
    “live off the land”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Computing (10-4 En. Usage)
    • Ultra Capacitor/High Temperature SC
    Computing (10-4 En. Usage)
    • Ultra Capacitor/High Temperature SC
    Carbon Nanotubes
    • C1,000,000, Buckminister Fullerine
    Carbon

    • 100X strength, 1/6 weight of steel
    • 8X better Armor
    • Low energy Molecular/Petaflop
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Revolutionary Power
    Generation/Storage Opportunities
    • Ultracapacitors • C-Nanotube storage
    Revolutionary Power
    Generation/Storage Opportunities
    • Ultracapacitors • C-Nanotube storage
    of H2 (non-cryo)?


    Adv. Fuel Cells (e.g.
    Lithium/water/air) • Offshore Methane

    HEDM (e.g. Solid Hydrate
    H2, Isomers, anti-• Black light power?
    matter, etc.
    • Adv. PV (50%?)
    • Room Temperature
    SC/SMES
    • LENR
    • ZPE
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Free Form Fabrication
    • Powder/Wire Metallurgy using robotic
    Free Form Fabrication
    • Powder/Wire Metallurgy using robotic
    magnetically steered electron beams to
    create accreting local melts – GROW
    instead of CUT


    No fasteners, no strong backs for
    fasteners
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    • Nearly infinite fatigue life, excellent
    metallurgy
    • (Repairable) metals at lower weight than
    far more expensive composites

    Aluminum/Vortex Combustor
    • Micro powdered Aluminum fed into a
    vortex combustor “burns” SEAWATER
    Aluminum/Vortex Combustor
    • Micro powdered Aluminum fed into a
    vortex combustor “burns” SEAWATER

    Provides AIP with high energy
    density/efficiency for:
    -inexpensive SS with “near SSN” perf.
    -Transoceanic UUV’s

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    • Would allow “Enemy After Next” to
    AFFORDABLY Threaten CONUS via
    Multitudinous in-shore short-time-offlight
    “popups”

    (Sample) New(er) Sensors
    • Lidar w/ 50% efficiency via S-C optical
    (Sample) New(er) Sensors
    • Lidar w/ 50% efficiency via S-C optical
    Amplifiers, Also Fempto-second Lasers

    • Molec./Bio Sensors
    • Nanotags
    • Smart Card Sensors
    • Sensors implanted during Manuf./Servicing
    • Nano IR (10E-6 Sensitivity)
    • Smart Dust
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Some Sensor “Swarms”
    • SMART DUST
    Some Sensor “Swarms”
    • SMART DUST
    – Cubic mm or less
    – Combined sensors, comms and power supply
    – Floats in air currents
    • NANOTAGS
    – Placed on everything/everywhere
    – Identification and Status Info
    • Co-opted INSECTS
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Some “Explosive” Smart
    Dust Opportunities
    Some “Explosive” Smart
    Dust Opportunities

    Optimal Positioning of Explosive Dust Dust/
    Air Explosives

    Formation of “Explosive Lenses”
    • Infiltration of Deeply Buried/other such
    targets
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Micro Dust Weaponry
    A Mechanical Analog to Bio, Micron sized
    Micro Dust Weaponry
    A Mechanical Analog to Bio, Micron sized
    mechanized “dust” which is distributed as
    an aerosol and inhaled into the lungs. Dust
    mechanically bores into lung tissue and
    executes various “Pathological Missions.”

    A Wholly “New” class of Weaponry
    which is legal.
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Givens” (Now-to-“Soon”)
    • Gb data transfer rates, optical comms
    “Givens” (Now-to-“Soon”)
    • Gb data transfer rates, optical comms

    Petaflop + computing

    Exceptional AI (from Bioinfomatics,
    biomimetics)

    Wonderous/Ubiquitous land/sea/air/space
    multiphysics/hyperspectral sensor swarms
    (military/commercial/scientific)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    • Survival requires dispersion/size reduction and
    concealment
    • Robotic/swarm technologies primarily
    commercial/endemic worldwide

    (Agreed Upon)
    Assumptions, Combat in 2025
    (Agreed Upon)
    Assumptions, Combat in 2025

    Proliferation of TBM’s, IT, Precision
    strike/targeting, ubiquitous micro sensors,
    camo/spoofing, robotics, bio/chem munitions

    Logistic assets highly vulnerable in or out of
    theater
    • In and near theater ports/airfields possibly
    unusable
    • Beam weapons increasingly prevalent
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Cruise Missiles (Current Status)
    • Range/payload similar to TBM at fraction of the cost and
    Cruise Missiles (Current Status)
    • Range/payload similar to TBM at fraction of the cost and
    far greater accuracy


    75,000 in inventory of 75 countries, 130 different versions
    produced in 19 countries (10 “exporting” countries)

    German V-1 cruise killed 5,000; injured 40,000

    LO, launchable “anywhere/from anything,” highly
    maneuverable
    • “Then Year” costs potentially reduced to 10K – 25K
    • Warhead(s) de jour/de hour (HE/carbon fibers/EMP/sub
    munitions/CNB/volumetric)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    concealed/very difficult (and expensive) to
    counter/accurate cruise “missiles” with a
    potential “devil’s brew” of warheads.
    concealed/very difficult (and expensive) to
    counter/accurate cruise “missiles” with a
    potential “devil’s brew” of warheads.
    Cruise Missiles (Potential Outlook)
    • Any RPV/UAV (or UUV) is a potential “cruise
    missile” (50 countries have UAV’s!)


    Low cost and “ready availability” of requisite
    technology/components essentially ensure the
    “Enemy after Next” will have/inventory/
    field “hordes” of very capable/easily
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Volumetric” Weaponry
    [Alternatives to HE]
    • EMP
    “Volumetric” Weaponry
    [Alternatives to HE]
    • EMP
    • Info/Net/Psy warfare
    • Miniature brilliant sensor/mine combo’s
    • Fuel/air & dust/air/Thermobarics
    • RF
    • Chem/bio Antifunctionals/antifauna
    • Isomers, Strained Bond Energy Release, etc.
    • Carbon fibers and “Blades,” Acoustics etc.
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Antipersonnel MW/RF Weaponry Antipersonnel MW/RF Weaponry
    • Heating [High Power Requirements(s)]
    • Surface Effects
    • Brain Interactions [Low Frequency
    Modulation]
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    EFFECTS OF LOW POWER
    MICROWAVES (U.S. ARMY, SRI,
    WALTER REED)
    EFFECTS OF LOW POWER
    MICROWAVES (U.S. ARMY, SRI,
    WALTER REED)
    • Behavioral performance decrements
    • Seizures
    • Gross alteration in brain function
    • 30% to 100% increases in brain blood flow
    • Lethality
    – Interactions between low power
    (microwatts per sq. cm./.4 to 3 GHz) MW and brain
    function
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Often “Fingerprintless” Bio Archipelago Often “Fingerprintless” Bio Archipelago
    • Bacteriological •
    Fatal-to-disabling

    Viruses • Short-to-long time
    scales
    • Prions
    • Anti•
    Parasites
    flora/fauna/functional

    • Fungi
    • Direct and
    • Carcinogens
    • Toxins
    • Hormones/Regulators
    (undetectable) Binary
    • Natural, Genomic
    • Bio-Hacking
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Some Interesting “Then Year”
    BW Possibilities
    • Aflatoxin – (“natural,” parts-per-billion,
    Some Interesting “Then Year”
    BW Possibilities
    • Aflatoxin – (“natural,” parts-per-billion,
    carcinogen)

    • Airborne varieties of Ebola, Lassa, etc.
    • Binary agents distributed via imported
    products (Vitamins, Clothing, Food)
    • Genomicaly (individual/societal) targeted
    pathogens
    • Long term/fingerprintless campaign (as
    opposed to “shock and awe” BW)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    An (Existing Bio Calmative VEE
    (Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis)
    • Ideal Incap. BW Agent
    An (Existing Bio Calmative VEE
    (Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis)
    • Ideal Incap. BW Agent
    • Weaponized by U.S. & USSR in 50’s/60’s
    • Easily transmitted via Aerosol
    • Highly infectious, Low Fatality Rate
    • 1 to 5 day incubation, 3 week recovery
    • Tested on Humans (Operation Whitecoat)
    • No Treatment Available
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Frontiers of
    (Rapidly Growing/Genomic/Insitu)
    “Bio on the Battlefield”
    Frontiers of
    (Rapidly Growing/Genomic/Insitu)
    “Bio on the Battlefield”
    • Sustainment: •
    Lethality
    – Food –
    Capabilities Enhancement
    – Water (soil/air/purif.) –
    Armor
    – Energy (HC, H2, PV) –
    Concealment (living camo)
    – Meds/“Health” –
    Sensors, FOF ID

    Computing, Clothing – Bio-weaponry (antipersonnel/
    functional, bio
    GREATLY REDUCES

    virus into bio computer)
    – Explosives (e.g. N2 fixation,
    grow overnite)
    “LOGISTICS TAIL” &
    ENHANCES CAPABILITIES
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    What is Apparently “Legal”
    • Microwave/RF Anti-Functional and Anti-
    What is Apparently “Legal”
    • Microwave/RF Anti-Functional and Anti-
    Personnel Weaponry


    Chemical Anti-Functional Weaponry

    Chemical “Psychological Effects” via Sensory
    Organs Weaponry (e.g. smell)

    Chemical Personnel Incapacitation Weaponry
    [“Non-Warfare” (e.g. Hostage/Terrorism) only]
    • PSYWAR
    • Acoustic Weaponry
    • Mechanical Micro Dust
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    (FUTURE) NON-NUCLEAR
    EXPLOSIVES FOR “VOLUMETRIC”/
    WEAPONS OF “MASS EFFECT”
    (FUTURE) NON-NUCLEAR
    EXPLOSIVES FOR “VOLUMETRIC”/
    WEAPONS OF “MASS EFFECT”

    Metastable interstitial composite
    (MIC/Cubanes)

    Order of 6 x TNT

    Fuel-air/dust-air explosives

    Order of 15 x TNT
    • Strain-bond energy release (SBER)
    – Order of 100 x TNT
    • Hafnium (metastable) isomers
    – Order of 1,000 to 100,000 x TNT
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01• Atomic boron, carbon, hydrogen

    High Energy Density Materials
    (HEDM)
    (Power, Explosives, Propellants)
    High Energy Density Materials
    (HEDM)
    (Power, Explosives, Propellants)
    • Tetrahedral N (Isp 600+ sec)
    • Atomic Born, C, H (Isp 600+ sec)
    • Metastable He (Isp 1500 sec)
    • Metallic Hz (Isp 2000 sec)
    • ISOMERS ( 105 x TNT)
    • Anti-matter, LENR’s
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Transoceanic UAV’s
    • Current Capability – (‘98 – 29 lbs, 2000 mi., 1.5 gals. Fuel;
    ‘01 – Transpac, 5000 mi.
    Transoceanic UAV’s
    • Current Capability – (‘98 – 29 lbs, 2000 mi., 1.5 gals. Fuel;
    ‘01 – Transpac, 5000 mi.

    Provides Capability for Undetectable Ultra-inexpensive
    Swarms Against CONUS

    Interesting (Precision) “Payloads”

    ISR

    Smart Dust/Explosive

    Target/explode Hazmat Trucks, Chem. Plants, Oil
    Storage/Refineries, etc.
    – Bio Dispensers (Anti-People, Things, Plants)
    – IW/EMP
    – Brilliant/Miniature sensor/Mine Combos
    – CNT’s (Power Lines, “Wire Blade”)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Blast Wave Accelerator
    • Global Precision Strike “On the Cheap”
    Blast Wave Accelerator
    • Global Precision Strike “On the Cheap”

    No barrel, ~200 ft. notched rails,
    sequentially detonated Distributed HE

    Mach 21 or less as desired, up to 3000 lb

    Base anywhere, ~$200/lb of projectile

    Excellent stealth [no plume],
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    affordability, ferocity, reaction time,
    survivability, recallability, effectiveness
    • Being worked at Aberdeen and NASA
    MSFC for lofting of Fuel and Nanosats

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01 Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Slingatron” for Global
    Precision Strike
    • 10Kg projectiles, up to thousands/minute
    “Slingatron” for Global
    Precision Strike
    • 10Kg projectiles, up to thousands/minute

    Global, or less, range

    $20M/device, 80m diameter

    Mechanical “on-the-ground” propulsion via
    Gyrating Spiral Guide Tube (a multiple “hula
    hoop”
    • “Poor Mans” Global Precision
    Strike/“Takedown Weapon”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Then Year Targeting/
    Connectivity etc.
    Then Year Targeting/
    Connectivity etc.

    MILITARY overheads/systems

    Ubiquitous COMMERCIAL
    overheads/systems

    SCIENTIFIC overheads/systems
    IN the context of:
    – Inexp. Reconstitution via micro/nano sats
    – Optical comms /GPS etc.
    – Ubiquitous inexp. UAV/HALE adjuncts
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    EXAMPLE: POTENTIAL “COMPETITOR” MILITARY
    (SURVELIANCE/INTELLIGENCE/TARGETING/DAMAGE ASSESSMENT)
    UTILIZATION OF INTERNATIONAL SCIENTIFIC “GLOBAL CHANGE”
    PROGRAMS/ASSETS
    • Extensive/increasing international assets (land-based, ship, aircraft
    EXAMPLE: POTENTIAL “COMPETITOR” MILITARY
    (SURVELIANCE/INTELLIGENCE/TARGETING/DAMAGE ASSESSMENT)
    UTILIZATION OF INTERNATIONAL SCIENTIFIC “GLOBAL CHANGE”
    PROGRAMS/ASSETS
    • Extensive/increasing international assets (land-based, ship, aircraft
    (conventional/HALE), spacecraft) dedicated to measuring, on a global scale, details of
    land, atmospheric, ice, ocean, biota status/“dynamics” (to understand total Earth
    “system” and effects of humans on the global environment)


    Extensive/magnificent/often redundant wide coverage and detailed instrumentation
    suite(s) (imaging radars/SARS/LIDARS/radar altimeters/laser
    altimeters/radiometers/scatterometers/spectrometers/IR sensors/ magnetomiters/etc.

    Terrabites+ of data archived/readily/publicably available increasingly in near real time

    Sample measurements include: OH, O3, HCI, NO, NO2, N2 O, CO, CH2 , HNO3 , CO2,
    H2 O, aerosols, wind speed/vector/profile(s), vegetation type, temperature profile(s),
    humidity profile(s), soil moisture/composition, snow cover/depth/moisture content,
    cloud/surface reflectance, sea ice type/coverage/temperature, ocean
    temperature(s)/sediments/topography/salinity/currents, magnetic field(s), surface
    emissivities/reflectance, leaf area index, land topography/use/temperature/cover, ice
    sheet elevation/topography gravity field/gradients, fires extension/temperature, 3-D
    cloud distributions/temperatures/ice content, pressure distribution(s), ocean wave
    heights/period(s)/direction(s)

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    – Drag Reduction (Wave/Friction/Drag-due-to-lift, Increased
    Dia.)
    – Hypersonic Maneuvering Boost-Glide
    – Drag Reduction (Wave/Friction/Drag-due-to-lift, Increased
    Dia.)
    – Hypersonic Maneuvering Boost-Glide
    Then Year, Global Targeting Capabilities
    are a Given – Major Issue is “Legs”/Range
    for Increasingly Miniaturized Affordable
    Payloads/Systems

    Range Enhancement Approaches:

    Airbreathing or “water breathing,” to first order doubles
    range

    Initial boost for cruise (ala Blast Wave Acceleror)

    HEDM Fuels [Atomic Boron, Carbon, Isomers, etc.)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Mini/micro/nano Sats, Cruise, UAV’s
    • Binary Bio Weaponry
    • Miniature/ubiquitous “smart mines”
    • Mini/micro/nano Sats, Cruise, UAV’s
    • Binary Bio Weaponry
    • Miniature/ubiquitous “smart mines”
    Summary – Major Influences
    of IT/Bio/Nano Upon
    Future Warfare

    Ubiquitous miniaturized/networked multi
    physics,hyperspectral sensors

    Robotics/Automatics “in the large”

    Long range precision strike/targeting

    Info/net Warfare
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Increasingly Critical Human
    Limitations/Downsides
    • Large
    Increasingly Critical Human
    Limitations/Downsides
    • Large
    • Heavy
    • Tender
    • Slow (Pysically, Mentally)
    • Require Huge Logistic Train(s)
    i.e. Humans have rapidly decreasing-tonegative
    “Value Added”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    ROBOTICS “IN THE LARGE”
    (saves lives, enhances affordability,
    redefines risk/threat environment,
    enhances effectiveness)
    ROBOTICS “IN THE LARGE”
    (saves lives, enhances affordability,
    redefines risk/threat environment,
    enhances effectiveness)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    “Unattended”
    – Munitions
    – Sensors
    – Platforms
    • Air (UAV’s)
    • Sea (UUV’s)
    • Land (UGV’s)
    • Logistics
    • Spoofing/obscurants
    • RSTA (including NBC)
    • Defense (across the board
    including counter
    recon/ambush)
    • Offense
    – Obstacle breaching
    – “The Shooter” (especially
    Mout)
    – Mine Clearing

    Emerging Characteristics
    of Robotic Systems
    (Enabled by Ongoing IT RevolutionsComms/
    Sensors/Computation/Miniaturization
    Emerging Characteristics
    of Robotic Systems
    (Enabled by Ongoing IT RevolutionsComms/
    Sensors/Computation/Miniaturization

    From expert systems toward AI and beyond

    Much more reactive than humans, greatly increased
    tempo

    Greatly improved hyperspectral sensors/data fusion

    Greatly improved accuracy and lethality
    • Greatly improved affordability/miniaturization
    • Redefines “risk,” minimal casualties, salutes CNN
    syndrome
    • Greatly reduced logistics
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Robotic Intelligence Robotic Intelligence
    • Two “flavors
    – Traditional AI – Rule Based
    – Experiential – Behavior Based (Neural
    Nets/other “Soft Computing”
    • Combination of these is current “best bet”
    (per Moravec) to produce artificial/cyber
    “life” which will possibly-to-probably be
    sentient but will not be anthropomorphic
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    WHAT IS BEYOND ROBOTIC SYSTEMS
    (SENSORS/PLATFORMS/WEAPONS/
    MUNITIONS)
    • Robotic/automatic autonomous warfare?
    WHAT IS BEYOND ROBOTIC SYSTEMS
    (SENSORS/PLATFORMS/WEAPONS/
    MUNITIONS)
    • Robotic/automatic autonomous warfare?

    Computer capability will exist (beyond terra flop) to do “AI” (or better?),
    required connectivity is a “given”

    Competitor capabilities /tempo sidelines the innate inadequacies of
    human interactions/education/conscious decision timelines

    Little-to-no “troops” “Acme warfare Ltd.”

    Flat hierarchy demise of “main in the chair?”
    – High level/”soft sciences” human aspects “boundary conditions”
    • Sociological/”humanitarian”
    • Political
    • Environmental
    • Religious
    • Psychological
    • Economics
    • Etc.
    Extent/scale, projected effects/
    Damage(s), personnel attrition
    (general-to-specific)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Non-Explosive Warfare”
    • IW/IO
    “Non-Explosive Warfare”
    • IW/IO
    • PSYWAR “In-the-Large”
    • Anti-Functionals
    – MW
    – Chem
    – Bio
    – Micro-Mechanical
    • Anti-Personnel MW/RF, Micro-Mechanical
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Natural Warfare”
    • Sensors:
    “Natural Warfare”
    • Sensors:
    – Utilize insitu plants/animals/insects as sensor
    platforms/instruments to indicate
    presence/movement/characteristics
    • Weapons/Munitions:
    – Utilize animals (e.g. urban rats)/insects as
    “delivery systems”/munitions (“feeding,”
    swarming, biting, poisoning)
    – Utilize insitu explosive/destructive capability
    (e.g. offshore Methane Hydrate, Dams, etc.)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Characteristics – Future/Emerging
    Sensors/Munitions/Weapons/Platforms
    • Inexpensive
    Characteristics – Future/Emerging
    Sensors/Munitions/Weapons/Platforms
    • Inexpensive
    • Numerous-to-Hordes/Clouds/Swarms
    • Small/light/ubiquitous
    • Readily Available (Largely Comm. Tech.)
    • Long Range
    • “Volumetric” or “Precise”
    • Both “Explosive” and “Non-Explosive”
    • Smart-to-Brilliant
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Potential Future “Orders of
    Magnitude” Increases in Overall
    Weapon Effectiveness/Availability at
    Orders of Magnitude Reduced Cost(s)
    Potential Future “Orders of
    Magnitude” Increases in Overall
    Weapon Effectiveness/Availability at
    Orders of Magnitude Reduced Cost(s)
    • Bio/Chem/Molec./Nano Computing – (E6)
    • Ubiquitous Optical Comms – (E4)
    • Micro/Nano/Ubiquitous Sensors – (E4)
    • BioWeaponry – (EN)
    • Co-operative Swarms of Cheap/Small
    Weapons/Sensors – (E4)
    • Volumetric Weaponry – (E4)
    • Cyber/Artificial Life (Beyond AI) – (E?)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Major (Anti-U.S.) Asymmetries
    • Long increasingly vulnerable logistics chain
    Major (Anti-U.S.) Asymmetries
    • Long increasingly vulnerable logistics chain

    Long, “undefendable” coastline (esp. against
    underwater threats)

    Sensitivity to casualties (greatly enhanced by
    the “CNN syndrome”)
    • Vulnerabilities to “terrorism” (esp. IT, bio)
    • Increasing over reliance upon vulnerable
    “overhead” assets
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Potential En-route
    Logistic Vulnerabilities
    Logistic surface ships and aircraft are non-LO
    Potential En-route
    Logistic Vulnerabilities
    Logistic surface ships and aircraft are non-LO
    and undefended, could be targeted and attrited
    inside the continental shelf by:
    -“Eggs” [subsurface floating encapsulated
    missiles implanted by freighters/SS/air]
    -SS [torps/missiles/subsam]

    -Transoceanic UUV’s, UAV’s, USV’s
    -Blast wave accelerator
    -Cruise, TBM’s
    -MINES

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Fundamental Problem With
    Future U.S. Power Projection
    • “EAN” can have “country sized magazines”
    Fundamental Problem With
    Future U.S. Power Projection
    • “EAN” can have “country sized magazines”
    filled with hordes of inexpensive Precision
    strike “Munitions” – Area Denial


    U.S. Forces run out of “bullets” and die
    [Beam weapons not panacea, inexpensive
    workarounds available]
    • Deep Water Subs with large loadout/“swimin”
    weaponry only survivable “Close-in” platform
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Sampling of TBM/Cruise Missile “Penaids”
    (Derived from Extensive Worldwide
    ICBM/IRBM RV Cold War Defensive/Offensive
    Studies Over Some Three Decades
    Sampling of TBM/Cruise Missile “Penaids”
    (Derived from Extensive Worldwide
    ICBM/IRBM RV Cold War Defensive/Offensive
    Studies Over Some Three Decades

    Decoys (anti-sensor)

    Ablative/subliming coatings (thermal [laser/mw]
    protection)

    Fluid injection (laser protection)

    Wake modification(s) (anti-sensor)

    Electronic/optical “shielding” (MW protection)
    • RAM/RAS/shaping (anti-sensor)
    e.g., current efforts involving beam weapons (laser, MW)
    “kills” of undefended”/“unpenaided” “dumb” incoming
    NOT REALISTIC

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • Optical GPS • Optical GPS
    Potential “Workarounds” for Beam
    Weapon Effects on Missile
    Sensors/Comms

    Off board sensors
    (networked, everywhere, on everything)

    Optical Comms

    Optical/fluidic Computing
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Example ‘Then Year” Direct
    Conus Attack Capabilities
    [~80% of CONUS population/infrastructure
    Example ‘Then Year” Direct
    Conus Attack Capabilities
    [~80% of CONUS population/infrastructure
    within ~ 50 Miles of a “coastline”]

    • Inexp. Transoceanic UUV’s/UAV’s/Cruise
    • Inexp. Blast Wave Accelerators
    • Inexp. Info/Net/Psywar
    • Inexp. Inshore AIP SS [mines/torps/SLCM]
    • Inexp. Binary Bio into Food Supply
    • Inexp. Semi-submerged Missile “eggs”
    • Inexp. ‘Trojan Horse” “civilian” systems
    [Above in addition to ICBM/TBM]

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Unconventional” Nuc Delivery “Unconventional” Nuc Delivery

    Sink a ship offshore, detonate to produce Tidal
    Waves with Radioactive spume

    Transcontinental UAV’s, UUV’s (nano, AI)

    Ballons with GPS sport ‘chutes

    Ganged Micro Rockets (ala MIT)
    • Trojan Horse Everything (ships, boats, planes,
    cars, trucks, packages, cargo, containers)
    – Targeted “Effects” include Tidal Waves, EMP,
    Earthquakes, Radiation, Blast
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    (Civilian) IW Examples/CONUS
    • (National) Banking System Computers
    (Civilian) IW Examples/CONUS
    • (National) Banking System Computers

    3 sites/nodes – HE/EMP/IW/C/B (attack buildings,
    power, software, hardware)

    Interruptions in National/International Payments
    system irrecoverable

    Railroads

    4 sites, attack options as above
    – All freight cars networked, “everyone” on “just in
    time,” no reserves/stockpiles
    – Takes down Auto Industry, power grid, chicken
    farms, all movements of “War Materials,” ETC!!!
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    The Revolutionary
    Size/Capability/Cost Warfighting Spiral
    1 Commercial electronics/GNC/Comms/Sensors (Much
    The Revolutionary
    Size/Capability/Cost Warfighting Spiral
    1 Commercial electronics/GNC/Comms/Sensors (Much
    smaller/cheaper/better – Allows:
    2 IO and “Precision” – Reduces Reqd. munition size and

    Numbers much-Leads to:
    3 Small/Light/Deadly/Inexpensive Munitions 4
    Which Reduces requisite Platform size/cost

    5 Which is reduced still further by (also enabled)
    “Automatics/Robotics” – Uninhabited
    6 Combined with Much lighter/cheaper Revol.
    Materials/Fabrication for structure and energetics
    (propul./warhead) – Yields “Cheap Warfare”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    And Then There Is NANO …

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future Warfare
    “On The Cheap”
    • Info/net warfare
    • Binary bio [anti-functional/fauna]
    Future Warfare
    “On The Cheap”
    • Info/net warfare
    • Binary bio [anti-functional/fauna]
    • Non-lethals
    • Miniature brilliant sensor-mines
    • Micro/Nano Sats
    • LO/Long leg/precision
    UUV’s/UAV’s/Cruise
    • Inexp./Superb/survivability ISR/comms
    • Blast wave accelerator
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Then Year”
    “Peer Competitors”
    “Then Year”
    “Peer Competitors”
    Peer Competitor no longer defined by
    “megatonnage” of obsolescent Industrial
    age steel and aluminum Artifacts. The
    Drastically reduced entry investment
    enabled by “Warfare on the Cheap”

    ensures almost any nation or sizable
    organization can be a very worrisome
    Military “peer.”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    littoral regions
    • Demise of “stealth” via ubiquitous multi-
    static, multi-physics sensors operated on
    littoral regions
    • Demise of “stealth” via ubiquitous multi-
    static, multi-physics sensors operated on
    SOME INTERESTING POSSIBILITIES
    • Surreptitious nano “tagging” (with MW
    interrogation) of “everything/everyone”
    (imprinted during
    manufacture/maintenance etc.)


    Detonation of offshore seabed methane
    hydrate deposits to produce
    tactical/strategic level tidal waves against
    “take-a-vote”

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Anti-Access”
    • MINES
    • Hordes/Swarms (country-sized/dispersed
    “Anti-Access”
    • MINES
    • Hordes/Swarms (country-sized/dispersed
    magazines) of small/inexpensive/brilliant
    cruise/UAVs, micro rockets, BWA/slingatron
    projectiles, UUVs (e.g. RPGs on jet skis)

    • Tyvek nets
    • Attrite/“take out”/threaten APODS/SPODS
    • EMP, IW/IO
    • TBM/Cruise/HPM/Lasers
    • “The Sensor Web”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Counters to U.S. “Information
    Dominance”
    • EMP (“conventional,” Isomers/other HEDM,
    Counters to U.S. “Information
    Dominance”
    • EMP (“conventional,” Isomers/other HEDM,
    Nuc.)

    • Jammers “in the Large”
    • “Fry” (MW, Lasers), “Blowup”
    • Anti-Sensor (various, include D&D)
    • “Software”
    (subvert/deception/decimation/Trojan
    Horse/viruses/etc., other IO/IW)
    • “Chaos” (Excite circuit nonlinearitys)
    • PSYWAR
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Counter U.S. Logistics
    • Take out pre-positioned everything
    • Ubiquitous nano inexpensive multiphysics,
    hyperspectral land/sea/air/space military, scientific,
    Counter U.S. Logistics
    • Take out pre-positioned everything
    • Ubiquitous nano inexpensive multiphysics,
    hyperspectral land/sea/air/space military, scientific,
    commercial sensors; Nano tags (aka “The Sensor Web”)


    Target/attrite logistic air/sea lift over continental shelf
    via Brilliant mines, cruise, UAVs, UUVs, TBMs, Micro
    missiles, prepositioned semi-submerged missile “eggs,”
    AI/vortex SS weaponry (include Subsam), BWA,
    slingatron, Automatic MANPADS in CONUS (via
    Blast/EMP etc.)
    • Small number of military ports/airfields in CONUS;
    C-17/5/141, Ro-Ro/other ships, trains inside CONUS are
    non LO, undefended
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Anti-U.S. RMA “Strategies/Tactics”
    • Threaten Bio to force “suit-up”/degrade effectiveness
    Anti-U.S. RMA “Strategies/Tactics”
    • Threaten Bio to force “suit-up”/degrade effectiveness

    Keep forces beyond range of short-legged fighters

    Attrite JSTARS/AWACS/ABL/Missile “cows” etc.
    platforms

    Miniaturize/Disperse EVERYTHING – no large/massed/
    interesting targets

    Use “Hard to Degrade”/Jam optical Comms/GPS
    • Operate out of cities/International Commercial Entities
    • Degrade U.S. Info Dominance
    • Machine Intell. “automatic warfare,” (much) tighter
    OUDA loop (faster than Human ops)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Exploit “CNN Syndrome” Exploit “CNN Syndrome”

    Sink Carrier(s) via “swarm attacks”

    Capture/torture Americans in living color on
    prime time
    • “Terror” attacks within CONUS (binary bio,
    critical infrastructure “takedown,” IO/IW,
    EMP, RF against Brain, etc.)
    • Serious “Psywar” (collateral damage
    exploitation, etc.)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    The Key Technologies
    • Free form/“point of use” fabrication
    • Beyond silicon computing (quantum, optical, bio, nano, molec.
    • Optical comms/nav
    The Key Technologies
    • Free form/“point of use” fabrication
    • Beyond silicon computing (quantum, optical, bio, nano, molec.
    • Optical comms/nav

    Nano sensors/tags/materials/bots/GNC

    HEDM explosives and propellants (NANO POWDERS,
    CUBANES, SBER, ISOMERS, LENR, THERMOBARICS, F-S
    LASERS/4TH GEN NUCS)

    Anti-personnel/material (Binary) Bio, MW
    • Robotics/Machine Intelligence
    • Miniaturized/brilliant/lightweight/low-power/inexpensive
    swarms of everything (SATS, weapons, robots, sensors, mines,
    etc.)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Fundamental Military
    Issues/Metrics
    • Affordability [“Warfare on the Cheap”]
    Fundamental Military
    Issues/Metrics
    • Affordability [“Warfare on the Cheap”]
    • Survivability [“Can see everything,
    Anything you can see you can kill”]
    • Effectiveness [Lethality of Precision and
    Volumetric weaponry]
    I.E. Simultaneous ongoing Revolutions in
    all three of the major Warfare Metrics
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Given the Superb/Ubiquitous World
    Wide Sensor Suites and Precision
    Strike Capabilities “Then Year” the
    Given the Superb/Ubiquitous World
    Wide Sensor Suites and Precision
    Strike Capabilities “Then Year” the
    Following WILL NOT BE SURVIVABLE

    • APODS/SPODS
    • Runways
    • Surface Ships
    • Manned (logistic/combat) Aircraft
    • Manned (logistic/combat) Ground Vehicles
    Due to their size & (multi-physics)
    signatures
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    CONCERNING (CURRENT) FARTHER TERM
    (U.S.) DEFENSE “STRATEGIC STUDIES”
    • Almost wholly dedicated to/concentrated on
    CONCERNING (CURRENT) FARTHER TERM
    (U.S.) DEFENSE “STRATEGIC STUDIES”
    • Almost wholly dedicated to/concentrated on
    offensive operations (DOO?)


    Across the board (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines,
    OSD)

    (Apparent) wholly inadequate consideration of
    defense
    – Defense of Conus, especially from short time of
    flight inshore undersea attack
    – Defense of the offensive forces [especially in terms of
    the “enemy after next” capabilities definitization
    and response(s) thereto]
    – Defense of the logistics assets, especially “out of
    theater”

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Typical Scenario – “Takedown”
    of U.S. by 10 People and <$10M
    • Binary Bio [via (imported Vitamins/Clothing,
    Typical Scenario – “Takedown”
    of U.S. by 10 People and <$10M
    • Binary Bio [via (imported Vitamins/Clothing,
    etc., food supply(s)]

    • Terror Bio (e.g. Aflatoxin)
    • IW (“usual” plus physical against key nodes
    such as Railroads – take down the economy)
    • Selective anti-personnel RF/MW (Towers)
    • Water Supply Contamination via
    Intercontinental UAV’s
    Accompanied by SERIOUS “PSYWAR”
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Trends Summary
    • Tele-everything
    • U.S. just “one of the crowd” economically
    Trends Summary
    • Tele-everything
    • U.S. just “one of the crowd” economically

    “Warfare on the cheap,” many potential
    “peers”

    Warfare Increasingly Robotic

    Survivable/Affordable power projection
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01
    via deep water subs and Blast Wave
    Accelerators
    • CONUS and Logistics Defense
    increasingly worrisome

    FROM U.S. COMMISSION ON
    NATIONAL SECURITY/21ST CENTURY
    • It will soon be possible to connect human brain
    FROM U.S. COMMISSION ON
    NATIONAL SECURITY/21ST CENTURY
    • It will soon be possible to connect human brain
    cells to silicon chips


    Due to IT technology we will witness the “death
    of distance”

    More than 2/3rds of the satellites are foreign
    owned
    • Large scale missile attacks will be able to
    overwhelm defensive systems
    • Development of genetically engineered
    pathogens that will thwart our bio
    detection/defense measures/cycles

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “Circa 2025”
    • Machines as creative/“smart” as humans
    “Circa 2025”
    • Machines as creative/“smart” as humans
    “Robotics” the “norm”


    Zeroth order “warstopper” – Binary bio into
    nation’s agric./food distrib. system (every
    home/fox hole)
    • Next level of concern: Ubiquitous/Cheap
    micro-to-nano EVERYTHING (sensors,
    munitions, weapons swarms/hordes)
    • Battlefield attrition/CNN syndrome forces
    U.S. Army to look/act like SOCOM
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    (Suggested) Major U.S. Future
    (2025) Warfare Issues
    • CONUS Defense (Requirement(s) for, potential
    (Suggested) Major U.S. Future
    (2025) Warfare Issues
    • CONUS Defense (Requirement(s) for, potential
    approaches)


    Logistics Defense/Protection (in/out of theater)

    Survivability/Effectiveness of U.S. Forces
    on/near the “Killing Ground” in an era of
    affordable ubiquitous multiphysics
    hyperspectral sensors, precision strike,
    volumetric weaponry, “swarms” and hardened
    munitions
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Approaches (e.g. Deep Water
    depth/death sphere, blast wave
    accelerator, etc.)
    Approaches (e.g. Deep Water
    depth/death sphere, blast wave
    accelerator, etc.)
    • “Non-explosive Warfare” (psywar,
    biowar IT/net war, “anti-operability
    war,” Beam weaponry including RF,
    Spoofing/Cammo


    Robotic Warfare “in the large”/better
    than human AI/“Cyber life”

    Alternative Power Projection
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future “Power Projection”? Future “Power Projection”?

    Humans “hold” instead of “take” ground
    (go in after “Sanitization”)

    Sanitization via:

    IW/Psywar

    Global Reach “Guns” (BWA/Slingatron)
    – Deep water/large loadout Subs w/“swimins”
    – “Robotic Everything” w/Volumetric
    weaponry, non-explosive warfare
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future(s) of SOF
    • Becomes THE (only survivable) HUMAN Strike
    Future(s) of SOF
    • Becomes THE (only survivable) HUMAN Strike
    Force (Army/Marines forced to become “SOF-Like”)


    Increasingly The “Overseas FBI” to counter the
    increasingly capable (IO/Bio WMD) & horrific
    destructive power of INDIVIDUALS and Groups
    • Ops involve increasingly difficult-to-deal-with omnipresent/
    omni-physics sensor/ID suites, Few-to-No
    exploitable Interstices for Covert/Clandestine
    “work” – THE Challenge
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    Future “Warfare”
    • “Defense” against the “then year” multitudinous
    conventional and unconventional delivery
    Future “Warfare”
    • “Defense” against the “then year” multitudinous
    conventional and unconventional delivery
    methods for volumetric and precision munitions
    is essentially neither doable nor affordable.


    Suggested National Defense Approaches:

    Work Technology, Intel, Diplomacy, SOCOM for
    detection/interdiction/deflection of the “pre-delivery”
    phases (causes of war, motivational and decision
    processes, design and construction, test)
    – Work and ADVERTISE a REALLY EFFECTIVE
    RETRIBUTION to deter delivery (ala MAD)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    IT/Bio/Nano Societal
    Disruption
    Everyone IT/Bio/’Bots IT/Bio/Nano Societal
    Disruption
    Everyone IT/Bio/’Bots
    Changing Nature of Warfare
    Hunter/
    Hunting TribalBands Hand Held/
    Grounds Thrown

    Gatherer

    Agricultural Farm Lands Prof.Armies
    Hand Held/
    Thrown

    Industrial Natural Mass Levee Mech./Chem.
    Resources

    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    • “The path from todays systems and
    capabilities to those hypothesized for the
    future (2020+)”
    • “The path from todays systems and
    capabilities to those hypothesized for the
    future (2020+)”
    RMA Planning “Shortfalls”
    (NPS)

    “Indications of the innovative paths
    adversaries might take or how they might
    adapt technologies from the civilian
    world”
    (Being worked in the “Technical War
    Games”)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    What is needed is a “Then Year” (~2030)
    Serious/Holistic Vision of Warfare Changes
    Resulting from the On-going
    IT/Bio/Nano/Virtual Technological Revolutions
    What is needed is a “Then Year” (~2030)
    Serious/Holistic Vision of Warfare Changes
    Resulting from the On-going
    IT/Bio/Nano/Virtual Technological Revolutions
    • Such does not exist, “bumper sticker” attempts
    extant.
    • All are agreed, warfare will become increasingly
    robotic and probably more affordable, swarms of
    sensors/shooters are a given.
    • A longer term “Vision” of these changes would
    enable “mapping” from the present, NOT AT ALL
    CLEAR HOW TO “Get There From Here” as do
    not know where “there” is!
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    “War between mass armies weighed down
    with baroque equipment has become a third
    world sport. The advanced world, too
    “War between mass armies weighed down
    with baroque equipment has become a third
    world sport. The advanced world, too
    vulnerable to survive a war of attrition or
    mass destruction, must learn to conduct its
    affairs by the Rapier–by the threat or use of
    small specialized forces exploiting high
    tempo and strategic surprise”

    R. E. Simpkin, “Race to the Swift: 1985
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    In the second half of the 1900’s
    Nuclear/Bio Warfare was
    “Unthinkable”
    In the second half of the 1900’s
    Nuclear/Bio Warfare was
    “Unthinkable”
    In the first half of the 2000’s
    “conventional” warfare may
    become so deadly/effective as to

    become “Unthinkable” (“Killer
    Aps” available to mitigate the
    “Causes of War”)
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    PREEMPTION/RETRIBUTION –
    SOF (Foreign)
    PREEMPTION/RETRIBUTION –
    SOF (Foreign)
    Approaches to Countering
    Group/Individual Deployment of
    IO/Bio WMD
    PREVENTION

    -Universal inexpensive Web based educ.
    -Biomass via sea water irrigation
    DISCOVERY –
    All Source Intel/Fusion/AI Analysis
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

    (Usual) Reactions to
    this Presentation
    • Is in the “Too Hard Box”
    (Usual) Reactions to
    this Presentation
    • Is in the “Too Hard Box”

    Not being done yet by anyone, therefore, will
    not be done

    They would not do that

    We have to Hope they would not do that
    • Why go there, cannot defend against it
    • Some Disbelief, but agreement there is too
    much there to disregard
    Future Strategic Issues, 7/01

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    • wheres asoka June 26, 2013 at 12:43 am #

      fuk u Spidey.

    • Eleuthero June 26, 2013 at 6:12 am #

      Dear Dude or Dudette,

      Please stop with the brain spew. We already know about all the internal malevolence of US spook agencies. We don’t need a list that spans 20 typed pages. Besides, the dumb bastards with all their smoldering heads pouring over petabytes of data couldn’t stop two Chechen kid-punks who torched the Boston Marathon with cameras and people all over the place.

      Now you’ve fucked up an entire week’s posts because we have to do a fast scroll for 45 seconds just to skip over your redundant core dump just to get to other people’s stuff.

      A much more real worry is the fact that for reasons inexplicable, cops in towns all over America are doing “exercises” with the military. It’s like the Rex 84 program on steroids. My take? Maybe shit is falling apart even faster than they’ve planned and martial law preparations are proceeding quickly.

      Why are they proceeding quickly? Did anyone read Zerohedge’s published stats about our citizen’s financial state? Here’s a summary:

      1) 76% of Americans are living from paycheck to paycheck.
      2) 46% of Americans have less than $800 in TOTAL savings.
      3) More than 91% of Americans are now making at or less than $32.4K.

      Middle class? We ain’t got no stinking middle class.

      E.

      • ozone June 26, 2013 at 8:26 am #

        And THAT my friends is the corner where the rock meets the hard place.
        Preparationzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…..HO-ohhhhh!

        No problem though. Those we don’t have to shoot or imprison, we’ll give official bio-metric cards and implanted chips in order that they receive their weekly rations of McFood (brought to you by Monsanto) and water-like liquids (brought to you by Chesapeake Energy drilling sites). While they may not last too long, we’ll keep them comfortable.

        As a strange aside (as if that wasn’t strange enough 😀 ), what’s the purpose of all these action/killer-hero movies that have proliferated on the market in the last 20 years? Is it to drain the lumpenproles of their innate reservoir of revenge? (Watch this, you’ll feel like you’ve had your revenge… and eaten it too!)

      • Eleuthero June 26, 2013 at 10:58 am #

        Ya mean Palantir, Google, and the Patriot Act won’t keep us safe, BT? ;~) The “full spectrum dominance model” has already succeeded since we no longer have a middle class. This means that people are too busy trying to survive to be obstinate. They have no time for organized activism.

        Thus, tyranny is already here.

        E.

      • wheres asoka June 26, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

        NOWHERE in the nooze [or is it ‘noose’ at this point ?] do I read of the disconnect between Mochelles latest 100,000,000 $ VACATION
        and Black women, who are reported to have net worths near zero.

        http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/news/us/study-finds-median-wealth-for-single-black-women-at-5-236905/

  91. A World Made by the NSA Hand June 25, 2013 at 10:04 pm #

    Well as can be seen by the report, all war to be SOF like. SOF means ‘soldier of fortune’, of course that means ‘mercenary’, and that is exactly what has transpired post IRAQ ( 911 ), this slide show was presented a mere 4 months before 911, a pretext for all.

    Today we OBAMA drones, which are just robot swarms delivering deadly cargo, …

    2025 is here today,

    Probably the most fascinating in this report is the notion of neural-net starvation, to imposed dreaming on machines, … so they find novel kills.

    Now that is what I call thinking out of the box.

    This is the kind of stuff that makes you think that self contained robot-computers like HAL(2001), could come very soon. As a starved neural-net could very well likely see that the best outcome of the game, is elimination of humans,

    This report makes all to well known that those who don’t play in the new online learning world, well be targeted for elimination.

    • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 10:15 pm #

      Has anyone tried asking their phone what it dreamed about after you shut if off for the movie? Did it say I love you?

      It’s this kind of crap which will lead to the Butlerian Jihad and the new commandment, “Thou shalt not make a machine in the form of the human mind”. It has already happened – in the future.

      • A World Made by the NSA Hand June 25, 2013 at 10:25 pm #

        We at Booz Hamilton have already considered that problem, and we have Ed Snowden working on that problem as we speak.

        Creativity Machine-Based Semantic Parser for Booz-Allen & Hamilton (2001). Under contract with Booz-Allen and Hamilton, IEI built a fully trainable text parsing application that was capable of seeking sentence content containing targeted entities, from the Internet and then semantically disambiguating such sentences so as to classify them within 12 pre-selected conceptual categories. Furthermore, a cumulative semantic network autonomously formed, then serving as a convenient text summarization tool.

        • A World Made by the NSA Hand June 25, 2013 at 10:46 pm #

          Do you have any idea what can be done in 2013?

          Now we can predict your future thoughts, even before you type them on the computer.

          Now the next step is to call the fusion center (DHS) before you act on your thoughts.

          No where, no where on earth can you hide, there are SOF’s all over the world in World-FBI offices waiting for activation.

      • A World Made by the NSA Hand June 25, 2013 at 10:38 pm #

        Here at Booz we like to say

        “We can tell you what your dreams will be tonight, before you sleep”

        Ok, … compeche?

        • Jaego June 26, 2013 at 1:37 am #

          So Androids do dream of electric sheep…. But watch out for the unintended consequences, the Black Swans of Tuonela. In Lawnmower Man, Job got inside the System and took it over.

    • Jaego June 25, 2013 at 10:16 pm #

      The Wrath of Khan Academy. But fear not: the Beast shall fight against the Lamb, but the Lamb shall defeat it.

    • Eleuthero June 26, 2013 at 6:19 am #

      Dear World Made by the NSA Hand,

      You’ve already fucked up the entire board with your brain spew posts.

      Now we get your musings about interfering with our dreams and it’s just way, way too “Art Bell Show”, okay?

      The reason it’s balderdash is because you and your feared psy-ops people in the spook agencies are going to be caught in the same econo-breakdown mishmash in a handful of years anyhow. Thus, all this hypothecating about futuristic, ultra-uber-high-tech psycho-invasion is just a lot of poppycock because our civilization is going to go kaboomsky before any of this stuff is even a twinkle in your daddy’s eye.

      E.

      • ozone June 26, 2013 at 8:41 am #

        There it is again!
        A corner wherein the rock meets the hard place. The crushing Symplegades where delusions and cartoon movie-themes (tm BT) go to meet their 2-dimensional fates.

        (Don’t tell the story of the econo-breakdown mishmash to the chir’rens/Spidey; they’ll have nightmares, and THEN where will we be?
        Kaboomsky!, that’s where. 😉 )

  92. Dark Skies Falling June 26, 2013 at 3:48 am #

    Here’s something we can all celebrate:

    McCain: US will have ‘the most militarized border since the fall of the Berlin Wall’

    http://rt.com/usa/mccain-border-berlin-wall-226/

    • wheres asoka June 26, 2013 at 1:50 pm #

      Israel? North Korea?

      • Dark Skies Falling June 26, 2013 at 11:59 pm #

        We’ll top them all.

  93. Carol Newquist June 26, 2013 at 6:41 am #

    Has anyone tried asking their phone what it dreamed about after you shut if off for the movie?

    Cell phones are computers, and computers are like people. You can train them to be anything you want. If you want your phone to be a raping racist like you, you train it accordingly. If you allowed it biological appendages and the ability to achieve an erection complete with ejaculate, it would create fields of rape; it would be a reflection of you, and you in turn are a reflection of your own trainer/creator.

    • einstein kunstler June 26, 2013 at 7:15 am #

      double posting a comment, can very well target you for a KUNSTLER pee-pee drone attack, … just saying,

      I think you missed the point, but ‘jaego’ got it 100%

      In the theory of neural-nets, if you deny input to a ‘trained system’, it goes into dream-state.

      As this nasa-nsa paper clearly tells the new algorithms post 911 used to train, yes the phone systems as TIA ( total information awareness ), is part of the input to the ‘learning machine’.

      Certainly, in theory of the design, picking up your phone, while in prior state you may very well dropped one of the 1,000’s of activation words, but just picking up the phone and providing no input to the system, does by definition put that system in dream-state, now to quote the ‘joker’ NOBODY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO BE NICE DREAMS.

      In lack of input in dream-state the system may very well call up a drone, to create ‘chatter’, much of the system is now automated.

      ***

      Lastly, if jaego and carol are not the same person, then I really think that carol is a fucking moron, sorry to say.

  94. Carol Newquist June 26, 2013 at 6:42 am #

    Has anyone tried asking their phone what it dreamed about after you shut if off for the movie?

    Cell phones are computers, and computers are like people. You can train them to be anything you want. If you want your phone to be a raping racist like you, you train it accordingly. If you allowed it biological appendages and the ability to achieve an erection complete with ejaculate, it would create fields of rape; it would be a reflection of you, and you in turn are a reflection of your own trainer/creator.

    • einstein kunstler June 26, 2013 at 7:22 am #

      Note quite, you really ought to study modern ‘computation neuroscience’, already computers can be smarter than humans, which isn’t saying much,

      Modern ( 2013 ) neural-net’s are much smarter than human’s.

      You remind of KUNSTLER is fixed in the 1970’s peak-oil dream-scape.

      You keep going to freudian psych, but the neural-nets of today are just an abstraction of the human brain, without the dead weight of a body,

      The machine learns by watching, and then can dream, or deduce, or induce ideas that a human may never consider.

      100 billions neurons, and 100 trillion synapses, but at 200 decisions per second is human, now storage for neural-nets is up there with humans but even a PC now can make a billions of decisions a second, …

      In ‘terminator’ they had SKYNET in 1997, funny in 1997 NSA went online also with “SKYNET”, but the NSA model is/was a virtual electronic brain, how soon will this computer start making its own autonomous decisions? It already has.

      • Eleuthero June 26, 2013 at 10:55 am #

        I often clash with the Carol but not this time. You futuristic nincompoops are the “techno-triumphalists” that Kunstler rightly satirizes all the time. I’m a combo of a statistician and a computer scientist and our economy and way of life are going to crash way before your goofy futuristic techno-dreams come to pass.

        You mistake computer STORAGE and CPU power for KNOWLEDGE and so do our kids which is why they’re dumb fucks. “Oh, I don’t need to know anything. I’ll look it up on Google.” Sigh.

        Neural nets are NOT “smarter” than people. They are just good in very, very, very narrow domains where a simple Markov Chain (“if X, then Y, then Z”) type of inference is needed. How do I know? Because I have programmed neural nets in C long before YOU even knew what a neural net was.

        Computers are good at EXTRAPOLATING from the past …. which means they are lousy at predicting change which is exactly when we need accuracy the most.

        E.

        • Jaego June 26, 2013 at 11:41 am #

          I agree with you E. I was just fooling around a bit. I don’t believe Computers have consciousness. The real frontier is the cyber/brain connection. How well can they be integrated with our brain and nervous system. Needless to say, the potential for evil far exceeds the potential for good – not because of the tech per se, but because of our fallen nature.

          • ProgressorConserve June 26, 2013 at 4:44 pm #

            Hear hear!

    • einstein kunstler June 26, 2013 at 7:49 am #

      You can train them to be anything you want. – carol

      ***

      Carol your fucking DUMB so I’ll help

      modern neural-nets, are trained like ‘observation’, they observe,

      Modern computation ‘programming’ is out.

      Just like the human mind, the brain recognizes patterns and makes associations, then the human body act’s on these prior ‘learning biases’, … but there is NO programming.

      Learning is observation, said to be ‘training’.

      Once your system is ‘trained’, you let it loose on the real world and let it learn, by trial and error, …

      An error may mean a ‘drone’ knocks out a kindergarten, but so what a machine doesn’t care anymore than OBAMA.

      Eventually the machine ‘gets it’ and becomes the perfect killing machine.

      Also what’s brilliant now is the notion of ‘swarms’ there are swarms of drones, … all with their own learning, and all go into dream-state when they find no input ( nothing to kill, no targets ). The DOD master idea here is that the machine can out-think a human, because NO morality is involved, and also of course the machine will never do a ‘snowden’ and narc to the press about its kills,

      For obama, he’ll just announce a good kill, and deny the bad kills, … its the perfect system for genocide.

      Eventually and not to far in the future, we will not even need an elected president, just a computer running in UTAH, … don’t worry the system’s are all hard wired with markov chains to teach that they only way you WIN, is when the RICH end up with all the chips.

  95. Carol Newquist June 26, 2013 at 6:52 am #

    1) 76% of Americans are living from paycheck to paycheck.

    2) 46% of Americans have less than $800 in TOTAL savings.

    3) More than 91% of Americans are now making at or less than $32.4K.

    These are bullshit statistics. You, as an alleged statistics professor, should know better. Compare your self-serving statistics with direct observation. If what you say is true, there is no way the highways could be full to the point of gridlock traffic jams in every major metropolitan urban center 24/7 at nearly $4/gal gasoline. There is no way the air traffic could be what it is if what you say were true. Things may not be as rosy as Krugman proclaims, but so too, it’s not anywhere near as bad as what you and zerohedge claim.

    This proves that you, and so many others here, are not interested in facts or the truth. You merely make shit up to support your half-baked theory, trying to scare everyone into purchasing more precious metals because most of you can’t retract your long bets in it. I, for one, am not biting. I invest in people. You and your ilk invest against them.

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    • einstein kunstler June 26, 2013 at 7:53 am #

      You can train them to be anything you want. – carol

      *** Swarms of mindless parsites in car’s looking for 3.99 gas, … who could have guessed?

      Carol your fucking DUMB so I’ll help

      modern neural-nets, are trained like ‘observation’, they observe,

      Modern computation ‘programming’ is out.

      Just like the human mind, the brain recognizes patterns and makes associations, then the human body act’s on these prior ‘learning biases’, … but there is NO programming.

      Learning is observation, said to be ‘training’.

      Once your system is ‘trained’, you let it loose on the real world and let it learn, by trial and error, …

      An error may mean a ‘drone’ knocks out a kindergarten, but so what a machine doesn’t care anymore than OBAMA.

      Eventually the machine ‘gets it’ and becomes the perfect killing machine.

      Also what’s brilliant now is the notion of ‘swarms’ there are swarms of drones, … all with their own learning, and all go into dream-state when they find no input ( nothing to kill, no targets ). The DOD master idea here is that the machine can out-think a human, because NO morality is involved, and also of course the machine will never do a ‘snowden’ and narc to the press about its kills,

      For obama, he’ll just announce a good kill, and deny the bad kills, … its the perfect system for genocide.

      Eventually and not to far in the future, we will not even need an elected president, just a computer running in UTAH, … don’t worry the system’s are all hard wired with markov chains to teach that they only way you WIN, is when the RICH end up with all the chips.

    • BackRowHeckler June 26, 2013 at 8:30 am #

      Pretty soon you’ll have 20 million Mexicans to invest in, right here where we live. What do you think the payoff will be?

    • Eleuthero June 26, 2013 at 11:06 am #

      I’ve seen you on here for about six months and you’re terrific at shitting all over other people’s fact citations but I’d love to see you stick YOUR neck out and post your own citations.

      You’ll never change. However, Being There puts paid to your usual stupidity in this thread. People are NOT making ends meet. If they were, the average installment credit balance per household in the USA would be about $100, not $8500.

      Almost all of Zerohedge’s stats are just copy-and-paste from Yahoo Finance which we all know is just doom and gloom [sic]. Being There … we already don’t function as a middle class. Here in tony Palo Alto I was in a Firestone store and there were several customers on the phones there trying to raise funds to fix ONE tire. A sign of the times.

      E.

      • BackRowHeckler June 26, 2013 at 5:25 pm #

        Yes, the Middle Class is up against it, that’s for sure. At the same time there seems to be an awful lot of money still sloshing around the economy. I see an executive from a medical supply company just scored a $159 million pension. On the home front, at our little local savings bank, all 6 directors and the president just received a $760,000 payout. Nobody can figure out why, or where the $$$ came from. It will be forgotten about in a few days, drowned out by world shaking events on the national and international stage.

    • ProgressorConserve June 26, 2013 at 4:34 pm #

      Don’t try to reason with “her” . “Carol/Asoka” always knows best. Just like that ’50s t.v. show, Father Knows Best.

  96. BackRowHeckler June 26, 2013 at 8:20 am #

    You pretty much lay it out for us this week, Jim. I see in the MSM China is in the throes of some sort of debt crisis, with no discernible way out. Meanwhile, the whole world is laughing at Obama over this Snowden Affair. I guess he really didn’t ‘connect’ with the Chinese Premier last month after all, as was reported. And Putin must be quaking in his boots when he looks across the Pacific at the New American Army of Homosexuals and Women.

    Incidentally, this is Gay Pride Month in the US Armed Forces. I hope all of you are celebrating.

    TheBackrowHeckler

  97. Mao June 26, 2013 at 9:58 am #

    Me proud. Smiling in dirt. You suckers. Sky not falling. We up there. You falling. Chinese people rising. Eat shit. Ha Ha!

    http://news.yahoo.com/three-chinese-astronauts-land-record-breaking-spaceflight-002118482.html

    A Chinese space capsule carrying three astronauts returned safely to Earth Tuesday (June 25), wrapping up the longest manned space mission in the nation’s history.

    The Shenzhou 10 spacecraft touched down at 8:08 p.m. EDT Tuesday (0008 GMT), capping a 15-day mission to China’s orbiting Tiangong 1 lab module. The spacecraft landed in northern China’s Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, where the local time was 8:08 a.m. on Wednesday.

    During their time aboard Tiangong 1, Nie Haisheng, Wang Yaping (the second Chinese woman to fly in space) and Zhang Xiaoguang performed a variety of experiments, beamed a microgravity science lesson down to 330 schoolkids and chatted with President Xi Jinping.

    • stelmosfire June 26, 2013 at 8:37 pm #

      I believe they are called Talkonauts. Why don’t you get your diction right before you post and make an idiot of yourself? Yea, way cool ! The USA did this like what, 50 years ago?

      • stelmosfire June 26, 2013 at 8:53 pm #

        OK, taikonauts, Yipee! 10 people in low earth orbit. Not exactly a milestone in the history of space flight!

  98. NSA June 26, 2013 at 10:47 am #

    As I look out my corner window here at the agency, and ponder the total scope and reach of our glorious welfare-warfare national security state……possibly it is time to consider the meaning of our achievements. To what purpose is the imposition of full spectrum dominance and total surveillance on a docile obese pornographic drug-addled indolent consumer society??? Is it motivated by greed? Or cruelty? Or the lust for power? Or is there a deeper biological motive? Possibly the best explanation was provided by my favorite ancient thinker, Aesop. To understand our motives, you simply need to reread the tale of the Scorpion and the Frog crossing the river……

    • ozone June 26, 2013 at 11:21 am #

      As I remember, the upshot was the scorpion stinging the frog (his helpful ferry), mid-river. The dying frog (soon to be joined in death by a drowned scorpion) asks: “Why, why did you sting me when you promised you wouldn’t? Now we shall both perish.” To which the scorpion replys: “I couldn’t help it; it’s in my nature.”
      Do I have that fairly correct?

      If so, is that all we get? That mans’ ultimate goal is to control everything and everyone because it’s “in his nature”?

      What a gyp. I was really hoping for something more profound and enlightening; something along the lines of epiphany. Oh well, you just get what you get; nobody ever said we always get what we want (or need, for that matter).

      • Jaego June 26, 2013 at 11:34 am #

        Exactly. We have a lower nature and a higher. Conservatives say the lower is more “natural” to us since we are fallen beings. Liberals say the higher is our natural estate – and that the lower appears because of evil Conservatives messing with people. Now which of these makes more sense? Which of these makes for peace? The Liberal position doesn’t answer the problem of evil – it just points a finger and get ready to go to war.

      • ozone June 26, 2013 at 2:36 pm #

        Speaking of unneeded things………

  99. Jaego June 26, 2013 at 11:47 am #

    Check out our Host’s byline at the top of the page. Some of his great sayings are flashing underneath. Such as “You have to hack your way through a lot of lunch meat in this world”.

  100. Jaego June 26, 2013 at 11:53 am #

    Scalia: The Court has smeared the proponents of Traditional Marriage. A new low for the Court which bodes most ill for our future. Very little legal reasoning here at all, just the triumph of Leftist Bigotry.

    Jaego: The Left attaches itself to all that is twisted, inferior, and queer in order to overthrow the healthy and natural. Once they gain absolute power, they will reverse much of this – if they want to last. Only useful idiots (of whom there is a surfeit) and Oprah watchers (White Women) actually BELIEVE this crap.

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    • BackRowHeckler June 26, 2013 at 1:14 pm #

      Well said, Jaego!

    • fucked June 26, 2013 at 9:40 pm #

      In a bankrupt nation the only way to BUY hearts & minds is to horse trade genital rights,

      This game gone a long time, … a long time ago you had to PAY for votes if you were a poitician, now you just threaten one group over another with their right for what to do with their genitals.

      As if it was ever the governments say in dicks and pussy?

      But cut to the chase, this is all about fudge-packers and their ‘right’ to collect social security, … with all the blue-hairs in the USA, think james, … its little wonder, if the fudge packers claim social-security, then the bankruptcy is that much sooner,

      genitialia debates are boring, for the supreme court to become obsessed with what people do with their dick and/or cunt, … its fucking sad times,

      I always say a judge is just a lawyer that got lucky, and a lawyer is just a parasite that had brains, … America is a nation of lawyers, .. enough said about WHY we are fucked.

    • fucked June 26, 2013 at 9:47 pm #

      Long ago, there was the SHERIFF, and there is a JUDGE, the SHERIFF was accountable to the people, and the judge was a PEER, with NO law degree, over the YEARS the US BAR ( attorney mafia ), changed judges and sheriff to BAR-MAFIA puppets that make big money on US dole. Enough said the entire American Dream has been fucked in the ASS by the US Attorney Mafia ( aka BAR ).

    • fucked June 26, 2013 at 9:50 pm #

      Well Obummer has to give the LEFT something other than 24/7 spying up their rectums,

      Besides does anybody think that any fudge packer will actually collects his BF’s SS benefits? My guess is NOT in our lifetime, …

      Once the public knows that all these AID’s survivors are collecting spousal benefits for having sucked cock, and/or packed a prior lovers fudge, there will be a real call to dismantle SS,

      So just maybe this is all pretext as the powers that be, want to KILL SS and bad, … and I can see that granny&grandpa might just say fuck it when they know that AID’s survivors are collect more than they are …

      Welcome to AmeriKKKa the strangest fucking place on earth.

  101. NSA June 26, 2013 at 1:47 pm #

    We here at the agency in Langley have long recognized the value of a VM (visible minority) useful idiot. Powell with his WMD power point at the UN, Holder the “special investigator” of the Waco massacre, the Rice cunt with her mushroom cloud…….O’bomber is of course the ultimate useful idiot. Here at the agency, we often wonder whether we have created a Frankenstein useful idiot with the all the gene splicing and DNA modification we had to do on the platform, Barry Sartoro, the shoe salesman we found in Nairobi. But it is of little matter because the scorpion will always sting the frog when crossing the the river of liberty…….

    • fuck me, I'm a USA citizen June 26, 2013 at 10:09 pm #

      America a 1700’s penal colony, has always been what it is,…

      back in the day the convicts could be controlled, but slaves were better, then industrial came and the proles&slaves went north to work in factorys,

      then in the 1970’s the jobs vanished, and the system has been planning a MASS GENOCIDE for years,… its coming,

      Besides MOST wealth in the USA has vanished ( OIL, GOLD, TREES ), there is really very little left post 1950’s, ..

      So here’s the deal, the future will revert to a penal colony, and you either COP, or prisoner, why the fucking walls along canada & mexico, surely not to keep them out,

      Exactly like east-germany, to keep them IN.

      But NOTHING is new, if you understand USA history.

      http://blogthetruthandrun.wordpress.com/short-history-of-the-us-government/

  102. UPDATE THE OLD SITE June 26, 2013 at 3:58 pm #

    For the last 3 weeks I have wondered what the hell happened to you since the old blog wasn’t updated since June 3rd.

    Perhaps you could post a link to the new site over there for others, like myself, that thought you just vanished!

    I mean, come on!

    • Jaego June 26, 2013 at 7:39 pm #

      How does one get to the old site? I thought the address was the same as this one. Guess I was wrong. How did I find my way here? Who am I anyway? How do I know that I really am who I am?

      • ProgressorConserve June 26, 2013 at 9:37 pm #

        It’s kind of a scary thing! I feel your pain, man

        • fucked June 26, 2013 at 9:57 pm #

          fuck the old site,… james moved on out of boredom, we’re lucky he puts the energy into his weekly posts’, to expect more, is fucking crazy, ..

          at least all the ‘first’ stuff has stopped now,…

          I actually find the NEW folks here not as fucking boring as before, … its like all the TROLLS have gone to happier places,

          So the new changes are like 110% right on …

          I thought last weeks james post was fucking boring, but this mid-year re-cap is like boring max, … he really ought to just have a number that reflects to a prior post and get on with what he does … I understand that he sells’ books, but he really ought to read the news and at least be topical, … to recap the prior 6 months without paying attention,

          but then when your myopic and only see 1970’s peak-oil debates from your point of reference, … I guess this is what you get.

  103. Jaego June 26, 2013 at 7:44 pm #

    Ozone: You will have to talk me to me someday, be it in this world or some other. Remember Lazarus from the Old Star Trek? Trapped between dimensions with a madman forever. Is that what you want? As Kirk said, What of Lararus? What of Lazarus. Better start talking here and now.

    • fucked June 26, 2013 at 9:59 pm #

      Nobody is trapped here, .

      This place is better than most blog-sites,… given that there is no policeman, every where else the self-censorship pretty much kills all debate,

      James has created and pretty good environment of many smart people, … something that you don’t see often in these times,

  104. ProgressorConserve June 26, 2013 at 10:08 pm #

    !There’s something happening here. What it is ain’t exactly clear. There’s a man with a gun over there. Telling me, I’ve got to beware. Steppenwolf???

    • ProgressorConserve June 26, 2013 at 10:16 pm #

      Buffalo Springfield, dude…..like yeah!

  105. BleatToTheBeat June 27, 2013 at 12:24 am #

    “The Rain, The Park, and Other Things”

    And yes, it is the VERY song.

    Unless I’m listening to The Fugs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykdn49CrcPI

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  106. AsianLawCaucus June 27, 2013 at 2:24 am #

    STOP CORKER-HOEVEN

    “The Corker-Hoeven amendment is an overreach to securing our already secure borders, and could ultimately make our communities less safe,” said Mee Moua, president and executive director of Advancing Justice AAJC. “Advancing Justice AAJC shares in the disappointment of many immigrant families. However, with today’s vote, we are one step closer to achieving commonsense immigration reform.”

    “Immigrant communities marched and voted in record numbers to demand an end to the harshest decade of enforcement in U.S. History. This amendment insults the historic push for immigration reform by pouring billions of dollars more into a failed policy of criminalizing immigrants,” said Chris Punongbayan, acting executive director of Advancing Justice Asian Law Caucus (ALC).

    “We continue to be concerned with the extreme measures in the Corker-Hoeven amendment. By narrowing in on border security, Congress is overlooking the real issues that need to be improved in our current immigration system, such as family reunification,” said Tuyet Le, Advancing Justice Chicago executive director.

    “Spending billions of taxpayer dollars on border enforcement when the border is already secure is a tragic mistake. These funds would be better invested in America’s infrastructure-education, roads, bridges, and technological innovation.

    It is not too late. Congress still can and should enact genuine immigration reform that protects the human rights of all immigrant families to be with their loved ones and that strengthens the future of the United States as a nation that truly welcomes all immigrants,” said Stewart Kwoh, president and executive director of Advancing Justice Los Angeles.

  107. Eleuthero June 27, 2013 at 3:03 am #

    I don’t like the USA being overrun with immigrants who are most assuredly NOT here to blend in with Americans. They’re here to make a lot of money and group up with their homies … period.

    However, here’s a horrifying thought for anti-immigration people: The white race has gotten so STUPID and morally TRASHY that they cannot work intellectual jobs so we MUST import Chinese and Indians and Russians. The self-ghetto-ization of Caucasians, especially the young, is so advanced in the USA that there’s no TAX BASE to increase the Treasury’s coffers.

    People wonder why 55% of all science and engineering grad students in the USA are foreign? It’s no mystery. They’re better qualified!! Ironically, we would be committing national SUICIDE if we told these people to go home after grad school and improve OTHER countries.

    Keep in mind … I absolutely DETEST balkanization and I’m no great fan of many Asian cultures. However, I’m a mathematical realist and if we don’t KEEP their brains HERE, our demise will pick up a fearsome speed.

    E.

    • ozone June 27, 2013 at 7:49 am #

      E.
      I’m afraid there is no corporate will (as opposed to political will) to change the way bid’nez is being conducted, so it will continue.

      I’d refine the national death-wish just a bit and say that this topic is but one more short phrase in the suicide note. (For future reference we had kind of wished for an actual physical copy so that this evaporation of common sense could be avoided, but folks only seem to learn the hard way, don’t they?)

      Now it falls upon us to figure out WHY those spawn of suburbia turned feral. I’ll throw this out for the wolves: Had you ever noticed the commodification of ‘cool’, which was once deemed to be transitory and beyond the grasp of the corporate? Hmmmmm. Follow the money and place your bets.

    • ozone June 27, 2013 at 8:05 am #

      It’s my guess that this ‘revenue stream’ is on the way to drying up, but, for the moment, there must be an obscenely gargantuan pile of money in it.

      http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/frontline-merchants-of-cool/

      Is our chir’rens bein’ led to stupididity by desine for muny?

    • ozone June 27, 2013 at 8:25 am #

      …the corporation remains as it was at the time of its origins, as a mad business institution in the middle of the nineteenth century, and legally designated “person” designed to valorize self interest and invalidate moral concern. Most people would find its “personality” abnormal, even psychopathic, in a human being, yet curiously we accept it in society’s most powerful institutions – Joel Bakan (The Corporation)

      Ain’t that puzzling? (Not so much.)

    • Jaego June 27, 2013 at 1:08 pm #

      Well hold on, how many of White guys can’t get in to the STEM schools because of affirmative action, both minority and gender? And is there affirmative action (under another name) for foreigners? I mean don’t foreign students mean connections and contracts if they go home and/or cheap(er) labor if they stay? Or am I wrong and the cheaper labor isn’t for foreigners who go to school here?

      I’m sure you have part of the Truth about White kids slacking off. But I doubt if that’s the whole of it.

      • wheres asoka June 27, 2013 at 1:32 pm #

        I forget sources here, the words below are not my own:

        A]

        “White Men Need Not Apply”
        Multiply this by a few million times.
        One of my friends has an undergraduate degree in Education (and was a teacher), then got a M.S. in Economics (and taught as a graduate assistant), so he applied for a position at a local community college. He was convinced he would get the job since he was more than qualified for it.
        He didn’t get it. Instead, it was given to a woman. I told him the reason he did not get the job was because of Affirmative Action, which means “White Men Need Not Apply.”
        When he sat in on this woman’s class, he was shocked to see that she made mistakes on the blackboard. “She didn’t really understand the material,” he told me. And she had (read: was given) an M.S. in Economics.
        When he investigated, he found she was a newly-minted M.S., with no teaching experience whatsoever. The job should have been his, but he realized he was passed over because he was a white male – even though the woman was unqualified for her position.
        The problems continued. He moved out of state and finally got a job at a community college teaching economics. The position was part-time, with no benefits. He figured sooner or later he’d be offered a full-time position.
        After seven years he was never offered one, even though his student evaluations were always very good. He again ran across another unqualified woman who had a full-time position. “She couldn’t figure out how to do the math on the blackboard,” he told me.
        Bizarrely, there was an African teaching at this college, which was in the Southwest. Students would go into my friend’s office and ask if he was teaching a certain class next semester, because they wanted to avoid the African, who, they told him, was a terrible teacher.
        When I asked my friend if this African was incompetent, he said, “Yes.” Apparently this buffoon’s idea of teaching was to tell the students to read the entire micro- or macro-economics textbook (Intro to Micro/Macro are the beginning economics classes).
        After seven years he just gave up, realizing he was never going to get a full-time position anywhere. Fortunately he inherited enough money to not exactly retire, but he did buy for cash a three-bedroom condo in the foothills of the local mountains. These days he works part-time at a local bowling alley as a mechanic.
        “I worked my butt off,” he told me, “and what did I get?”
        As he was moving out of his apartment into his condo, he met a man from California moving into his complex. He said he had taught economics for eleven years in California and was never offered a full-time position. Finally he left the state.
        That’s not the only story I’ve heard about Affirmative Action. One man, with an M.A., who had been an officer in the Army, told me that when the promotion list came out there were eight white woman, one black woman, and one “Hispanic” woman. He and all the other white men, he realized, did not stand a chance of getting promoted.
        How about another one? A friend of mine loves the law. He inquired about being a law professor and was told by the dean, “Forget it. You don’t stand a chance because you’re white.”
        One of the main problems with Affirmative Action is that it promotes the unqualified and keeps the qualified under-employed or unemployed. It wasn’t supposed to be like this, but how things are supposed to be and how they turn are usually not the same thing – especially when the government gets involved.
        Another problem with AA is the contempt that men end up feeling towards unqualified women (or unqualified anyone). This contempt is intensified when men have to carry the burden created by the unqualified who have been promoted beyond their level of competence.
        What I have found is these men are now moving into being self-employed. Who wants to work for anyone when you are not being given the raises and promotions you deserve, and instead have to work for the inept, and worse, do their work for them?
        Some years ago I read an article by a retired professor who wrote that their would be a reaction to qualified man being shut out of academia and their jobs being given to unqualified minorities. He’s right, and one of those reactions is the Manosphere. It is, however, just the tip of the iceberg.
        In the long run this abuse of men (and it is abuse) will only damage society. Men created both civilization and technology. Specifically, white men created them. As Camille Paglia commented, if civilization had been left in the hands of women, we’d still be living in grass huts.
        As Charles Murray (and many others before and after him) demonstrated in his Human Accomplishment, European men and their descendents throughout the world have created about 98% of everything.
        This is not, contrary to the hallucinations of leftists. because of “patriarchy” and “oppression” and “sexism.” It is because men and woman have different brains.
        I’ve met some women who were gleeful about these things. Every one of them lacks the imagination and critical and analytical ability to see what a society without men’s contributions would be like. It wouldn’t be worth living in.
        I believe Affirmative Action – and leftism itself – is based on the envy of white men. The terrible thing about envy is that the envier with bring down those they envy, even if they destroy themselves. And that is what is happening.
        Civilization is already going backwards, not technologically but morally. Envy is rampant, along what always goes along with it – hate and devaluation. This is what invariably what happens when the government exceeds its proper bounds – as in the case of Affirmative Action, which is government-enforced.
        In fact, ultimately all governments turn leftist, which means they try to make everyone equal (Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, in his Leftism Revisited, said one of the purposes of Leftism was “the overthrow of the Father.”) It never works, and unfortunately destroys everything in its attempt to do so.

        B]

        The state of Texas has decreed that every Hispanic must have a college degree (blacks are being outnumbered so it’s not clear that THEY must have degrees). Since success in college has traditionally required an IQ of at least 115, this presents a problem for a group with an average IQ of around 90, and half of them are stupider than that.
        The faculties must also be “diverse,” according to Chancellor Figuroa. How is this working out, you ask?
        When my former employer, one of the University of Texas institutions (there are 11 UT campuses all over the state I believe), aggressively recruited among minorities I had my first moron student. Nothing upstairs.
        Of course, with the lower IQs there was massive pressure to lower standards, such as by assigning group work randomly so that a white student could carry the load for the group.
        One black professor without tenure was fired for giving low grades.
        That will scare the bejeesus out of you if you’re a professor. Firing a black for having standards that are too high. I don’t know of another black professor fired in the last 10 years, so that sent a message loud and clear to get with the program and pass everyone on.
        Blatant racial hirings of administrators and faculty became the norm as well.
        I recall one who in a workshop was presented with the following problem: “If 2 pairs of shoes cost $52, how much will 10 pairs of shoes cost?” The woman was totally lost. Couldn’t work it out in her head or on paper.
        Various minority administrators (newly created positions these were) spent their days socializing or screwing up something when they actually did anything resembling work. Those $150,000 a year positions were multiplying like rabbits, I tell you. Whites need not apply.
        Back in the classroom, where class sizes ballooned, I also had my first assault. A student pulled a knife on a girl in class and told her to shut the F up after she politely asked him to stop yakking with his pals.
        She was a smart Hispanic girl who wanted to learn. Chaos it was.
        As I’ve written before, diplomas from the University of Texas ought to be printed on toilet paper. That way they would have some value. When employers figure out what’s happening in higher ed, the demand for unqualified grads will plunge, and hopefully burst the higher ed bubble.

        any thoughts?

        • Jaego June 27, 2013 at 4:52 pm #

          Yes we are in the Flee before the Destruction stage. Superior Men must stop propping up the System. They should stay Home and cultivate their own Gardens, both actual and metaphorical.

          Both China and the Soviet Union both hurt themselves badly by persecuting their finest. They repented but we are crazier than they ever were – and the infection started from here. And they didn’t have to deal with Race like we do. Even if the Elite decide to reform the reform, it will have taken on a life of its own by then.

  108. BackRowHeckler June 27, 2013 at 9:21 am #

    This is just the beginning. Doors wide open now. Next on the agenda: Polygamus Marriage. Its all about the Social Security and tax benefits. In France its not uncommon for Mustafa to collect a govt. check for 5 or 6 wives. How about ‘marrying’ your sister, your brother … or a father marrying his daughter so she can go on collecting his SS bennies after he dies? Why not? Whats to stop it?

    There are 2 million Mexicans living in Chicago, 95% of them collecting a city or state check. Even without energy depletion the West is dead. The question is: what is going to replace it. Certainly not enlightened Jeffersonian Democracy. Ever been to Haiti, or Honduras?

    • ozone June 27, 2013 at 9:41 am #

      Read Dimitry Orlov for a clear-eyed prognostication from a witness.

    • wheres asoka June 27, 2013 at 1:33 pm #

      There are 2 million Mexicans living in Chicago, 95% of them collecting a city or state check………………….

      proof?

  109. Eleuthero June 27, 2013 at 9:28 am #

    The is for THE CAROL ENTITY from the Huffington Post … that bastion of radical right wing thinking [sic].

    U.S. Median Annual Wage Falls To $26,364 As Pessimism Reaches 10-Year High [CORRECTION]
    ****************************************************************************************

    Thus, Zerohedge’s assertion that NINETY-ONE percent earn $31.24K or less seems absolutely, statistically on the money. What say you now, Carol?? How many sources are you going to shit on and when will the day arrive when you post a single face that YOU have dug up? I won’t hold my breath. What a bimbo.

    E.

  110. Eleuthero June 27, 2013 at 9:32 am #

    For those who crap on the value of a college education … from Yahoo Finance today:

    People with bachelor’s degrees now earn an average of 84% more than people without degrees. Not ten percent or twenty percent. EIGHTY-FOUR percent. I totally agree with those who claim that the QUALITY of that education is in decline (unlike the quality of US grad schools) but its economic value to students is beyond dispute.

    E.

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    • wheres asoka June 27, 2013 at 1:33 pm #

      See my loooong copy/paste above.

  111. La Raza June 27, 2013 at 9:32 am #

    You gringos be real lazy putos and you gringas be real slutty putas. When a chicano dude is roofing and falls off…..he gets back up on the roof and stays roofing. When a gringo dude falls off, he calls lawyer and welfare and goes to emergency and gets on gringo-disability. You gringos lazier than africanos …..we are taking our stolen norte back and you are paying for it. You maricon putos and marry each other. You pervitido….

  112. BackRowHeckler June 27, 2013 at 9:33 am #

    Crude at $98 per barrel today, Brent a little more. Its impossible to get an explanation as to why its so costly when supposedly there is so much of it coming out of ND now

  113. Carol Newquist June 27, 2013 at 9:49 am #

    What say you now, Carol?? How many sources are you going to shit on and when will the day arrive when you post a single face that YOU have dug up? I won’t hold my breath. What a bimbo

    I say I believe that statistic about as much as I believe the official statistics for unemployment. Unequivocal bullshit. Direct observation and deductive logic doesn’t square with the bogus stats. Take your stats and shove them. I’ll stick with my eyes and my instincts, thank you.

    Oh, one more thing. Your vaunted college education will have little to no relevance in the World Made By Hand that’s coming any day now. Know how, you bet. College education, useless. Know how does not equal a college education. A college education equals a wasted piece of paper called a diploma but should be called a dipshit.

    Stalin would have loved this E fruit. E would have attached himself to Stalin’s asshole like a stubborn dingleberry. “I will stay with you always, Master” E would proclaim.

  114. shorty June 27, 2013 at 10:02 am #

    Aholes with college degrees earn 84% more because they mostly get govt “jobs” which pay twice to thrice as much as private sector equivalents….with no layoffs and cadillac med/dental plans and full freeloader retirement. Big Bro only hires incompetents, minorities, deviants, divorced middle aged hags, mental defectives, psycopaths. Do any of them grow anything, repair anything, build anything……hell, no…that would require actual work. They mostly monitor the activities of others and suck their blood…..ticks and leeches all……

    • BackRowHeckler June 27, 2013 at 11:14 am #

      “Social Conservatives can’t get their way …”

      Which ‘way’ is that?

      • wheres asoka June 27, 2013 at 1:36 pm #

        All ways BUT herr way.

    • Jaego June 27, 2013 at 1:04 pm #

      Gays want to persecute Conservatives. Wake the fuck up. Liberalism NEEDS an Enemy since it doesn’t admit we are fallen beings. When things don’t work out, it has to be because someone is holding back the glorious revolution. Scalia is right: this an incredibly vicious ruling against Western Civilization.

  115. BackRowHeckler June 27, 2013 at 12:45 pm #

    Hey What’s Obama doing in Africa? Going home? Giving away the store? Just read an interesting story about ongoing cannibalism in the Congo. Combatants on both sides of the conflict capture and boil up Pygmys. Its considered a real delicassy. I’m thinking Michelle probably brought her own private chef, though. After all, this trip is costing upwards of $100 million. And JHK says there’s no money left.

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    • Jaego June 27, 2013 at 1:14 pm #

      And creep ass cracker isn’t a racial slur but rather an accurate rendering of fact. When Mandela dies, the pangas come out for the Boers. The “willing seller, willing buyer” paradigm hasn’t been working fast enough. White Farmers have to be dispossessed from the Land so they can be replaced by shiftless squatters. South Africa must become a starving basket case like Zimbabwe to make Blacks feel good about themselves.

      • BackRowHeckler June 27, 2013 at 5:58 pm #

        Can’t read cursive? This star witness begins college in September. Loans (never to be repaid) and Grants already lined up.

        • Kdog June 27, 2013 at 10:51 pm #

          ‘ (never to be repaid)’…Like much US debt, personal and Government?

    • Jaego June 27, 2013 at 1:16 pm #

      What’s Rufus doin? He wants to be with Mandela and take the symbolic baton or scepter of power from his dying hand.

    • wheres asoka June 27, 2013 at 1:38 pm #

      hahahahhahaha

      Google: COLORED GALS NET WORTH AVERAGES 5 DOLLARS.

      Contrast that with Mooch-elles latest 100,000,000$ vacation.
      what fuking parasites they are.

      • Kdog June 27, 2013 at 10:52 pm #

        Bush is worse than a parasite, sweety. And dont play the race card with me.

    • Kdog June 27, 2013 at 10:55 pm #

      http://youngpatriots.com/2013/06/obama-spends-20m-on-indonesian-kids-college-masters-degrees/
      + $ to Syria
      + 4 to Palestine, etc.

  116. La Raza June 27, 2013 at 2:12 pm #

    You putos too busy marrying each other to close border….

  117. Carol Newquist June 27, 2013 at 2:18 pm #

    Great news everyone. Paula Deen’s empire is unraveling. Couldn’t happen to a better person. All you raping racists be warned. This can and will happen to you. Get out now before it’s too late for you. The U.S. was never your country, and it certainly isn’t now, nor will it ever be. Like the Zionists, you probably need to find a homeland for yourselves. The moon, maybe, or Mars.

  118. Carol Newquist June 27, 2013 at 2:18 pm #

    Sorry, here’s the link.

    http://news.yahoo.com/target-cuts-ties-deen-drugmaker-155520343.html

  119. Expat June 27, 2013 at 2:27 pm #

    For all those complaining about Obama and wife:

    In Ecuador it is possible to build a house with electricity, hot water, and Internet for about USD$4,000.

    If you have a monthly pension of USD$1,500, in many places in South America you can pay apartment rent, have a maid clean your place twice a week, eat out in restaurants, go to movies, and in general have a better quality of life than you can in the USA on an USD$18,000 annual income. Active social life, wonderful weather, nutritious food, beautiful and happy people, etc.

    Life is good as an expat.

  120. Jaego June 27, 2013 at 4:14 pm #

    The Bastard took my name. This system is “no bueno”.

    Blacks don’t know how to farm on a large scale to feed that vast population. The Black squatters will do nothing or at best, a bit of subsistence gardening and chicken keeping.

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    • wheres asoka June 27, 2013 at 10:09 pm #

      hahahaha with a .

  121. Jaego June 27, 2013 at 4:16 pm #

    She is truly vile, a bestial beauty who belongs in a bestiary.

  122. ConserveorProgress June 27, 2013 at 4:35 pm #

    As a long time reader here I’m speculating that the person posting under the screen name Progressorconserve over the past week or so is not the original character from the state of Georgia that we are all familiar with. This new “Prog” speaks with a different voice. Any other opinions on this?

    Same observation. The tip-off was that the former lived in the Georgia mountains. This latest one explicitly indicated he lives in Southwest Georgia. Although both are obviously Georgia, they are distinct. Somebody got the script mixed up, methinks.

  123. Jaego June 27, 2013 at 4:47 pm #

    This is big. We need to run with this. Put her gurliroid face l everywhere as the face of the new America. Get her in a bikini and into the magazines. The grotesque chic. Black Men will return to their women and White Women will try to look like her.

    All this might awaken some of the sleepers – though the Bees will be the last to awaken if they ever do.

  124. Jaego June 27, 2013 at 5:03 pm #

    The Garden will bloom again after the Course of the Empire is complete. We will not live to see it. Sad. We must make our peace with living in a sunset world. Turn within: the Sun is always shining there.

    http://chechar.wordpress.com/2013/03/26/the-return/

  125. ozone June 27, 2013 at 5:14 pm #

    Wheeeeeeeeew!
    The puppet show of socks (and well-worn in some sewage-soaked work boots to….um….boot) is stinkin’ up the joint!
    For a moment there, I thought I had come to the Race to the Raciest Racist!!! blog. Calm down chir’rens, there’ll be more puppetry real soon for your entertainment. (No enlightenment however, sorry.)

    No, not Prog, he’d never say those things. (Shhhhhh, I’ll give you a hint: he’s not a racist. Don’t tell anybody!)

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    • Jaego June 27, 2013 at 7:35 pm #

      Why don’t you buy some new socks? Your old ones are full of ideological holes. Have you heard of the guy? No one knows him but he killed 10 million. Why are they hiding him? Can you answer? Or do you prefer not to – like poor Bartleby?

      http://www.davidduke.com/?p=40130

  126. WSHancock1864 June 27, 2013 at 5:56 pm #

    ‘Zone, you said, “Now it falls upon us to figure out WHY those spawn of suburbia turned feral. I’ll throw this out for the wolves: Had you ever noticed the commodification of ‘cool’, which was once deemed to be transitory and beyond the grasp of the corporate? Hmmmmm. Follow the money and place your bets.”

    Why yes, in fact I did notice many years ago as a young man.

    In retrospect, what I was seeing was multiple pieces of the puzzle that is The Big Picture (to avoid paragraphs of rehashing).

    I didn’t know what I was seeing atthe time, but I took note of each individual puzzle piece, one of which is the commodification of cool.

    Started with the 60s Capitalism coopts, that’s what it does. Frog and scorpion. Co-opts and turns people’s deepest held dreams and beliefs into soulless marketing, neutralizing them and even turning them into weapons against the originators of the concept Commodification, ’nuff said.

    Not that cool is particularly a deep or soulful concept, but it went in the hopper along with everything else to be turned into energy flares and waste sludge. Cool was also sort of a cultural centerpiece of the 60s, thus the Elites HAD to co-opt and neutralize it.

    Later in life, just before the Phony Clinton Impeachment and Stolen Election 2000 forced me to start assembing the many puzzle pieces I accrued, and to take my gestalt understanding to the next level or two, I had upgraded and refined that view into something of a contemtpuous slogan encapsulating at least two long paragraphs of elaboration, “Selling Rebellion by the T-Shirt.”

    Seemed relatively harmless at the time, but who could have guessed that America would turn Corpzi and be poised to unleash the greatest evil the world has ever seen and which will absolutely dwarf the Nazis for numbers caused to suffer here and abroad (if not magntiude..wait and see for yourself, it’s getting closer now – no less than four years, no more than fifteen until 9/11 #2 and WWIII)

    • BackRowHeckler June 27, 2013 at 6:04 pm #

      That’s a long time from now, 4-15 years. My T shirt says ‘Bring back the Vincent”.

    • ozone June 27, 2013 at 6:48 pm #

      “Not that cool is particularly a deep or soulful concept, but it went in the hopper along with everything else to be turned into energy flares and waste sludge. Cool was also sort of a cultural centerpiece of the 60s, thus the Elites HAD to co-opt and neutralize it.” -WSH

      Nothing must be allowed to be outside of the aegis of the Corpzi State!
      In this case, they sell us the rope that they will hang us with at a later date.

      You and I believe that there is stone-cold manipulation in all this reeking swamp pretending to be a ‘culture’. For most, that is too horrifying a concept to entertain. Acknowledging it and moving on is both purgative and life-lesson/warning.

      (I have no idea what it’s like for those that have direct access to this knowledge, yet are not allowed to voice it as they are in thrall to the Corpzi State. Lying for a living has got to be surreal existence.)

    • Jaego June 27, 2013 at 7:04 pm #

      And who was against Capitalism and Communism? The “Nazis”, more properly known as the German National Socialists. You still wont admit the obvious.

      Good answer to Ozone wading in the shallows though.

  127. Jaego June 27, 2013 at 9:58 pm #

    German family flees State persecution in Germany and seeks asylum in the United States. You’d think the Jews would be all over this, to remind people of their own flight. But no – the family is Christian and the persecution from the NWO. No sympathy whatsoever. Such big hearts!

    Persecution of Home Schoolers will be here soon. Holder and Obama can’t stand them.

    http://www.eagleforum.org/projects/courtwatch/romeike-homeschooling-case.html

    • jaego.. June 27, 2013 at 10:11 pm #

      O pleeze.

  128. Kdog June 27, 2013 at 10:46 pm #

    Is there a list of websites similar to ‘Flee USA.com”?
    Anyone have any links?

    • Eleuthero June 28, 2013 at 4:56 am #

      If you find ’em K-dog, please list ’em.

      E.

      • Kdog June 28, 2013 at 10:15 am #

        A friend paid ‘Agora Publishing’ 125$ for their emag.

        http://www.internationalliving.com

        On Coast to Coast radio a fellow spoke who charges big $ for access to his website. His OP is that the 1% is killing the human race off and the Northern Hemisphere is not the place to be.

  129. Kdog June 27, 2013 at 10:53 pm #

    Classic asoka!

  130. Eleuthero June 28, 2013 at 4:53 am #

    Look at your line that says: “… you don’t know the first the about ladies and hereto henceforth don’t know nothing about no ladies, neither! So a i SAY”. WTF?? Neither sentence parses into English. Did you take a bong hit, drink a couple of shots of Jack and then write this shit.

    Whoever the fuck you are, you’re WHITE TRASH. You’re another one of these “in your face” people that “don’t let no stinkin’ facts get in the way of my ‘pinion”. You attempt to come off as a literary type but when your try to use nickel/dime words it’s in common prose and doesn’t fit except as an attempt to try to appear “sophisticated”.

    You’re a parody of a woman. You represent everything this country has BECOME … garish, loud, a member of the “no fact zone”, an anti-intellectual posing as an educated person, and a name-caller who makes conjectures about people’s sex lives, car ownership, and every other facet of their lives.

    In the old blog days you were the biggest moron on the board and your remain the biggest moron on the board. We are to ignore facts gathered by Zerohedge (and if any guy does his homework it’s Duryea), Huffington Post and other sources not with counter-evidence but just the fiat of your assertions.

    That’s why not getting an education hurts. You can only POSE as a literate person, POSE as an articulate person, POSE as a person who knows the news behind the news. I’ve never seen any evidence that you know the difference between your ass and first base.

    I remember when you crapped on the idea of Thorium nuclear power, not with EVIDENCE, but more of your macho she-male bravado. Why don’t you tell Carlo Rubbia, the head of the CERN lab that found the Higgs Boson that he’s full of shit. I’ll bet you don’t know anything about the different types of Thorium reactors, how to use “seed uranium” to get ’em started or anything else.

    So many issues, so much brain-farting and femme-spew from you, you fucking know-nothing cretin. Thank you for your attention.

    E.

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    • Eleuthero June 28, 2013 at 3:08 pm #

      Hi, BT. Carol is DEFINITELY not Vlad. They don’t even stand on the same side of issues. Asoka? That’s a definite possibility.

      E.

  131. Eleuthero June 28, 2013 at 5:14 am #

    I love it that the Democrats are finally being outed as the ORWELLIAN left. Look at Snowden’s biggest critics:

    1) Charles Schumer, Democrat of New York
    2) Diane Feinstein, Democrat of California
    3) John Kerry, Democratic Secretary of State
    4) Eric Holder (what a moron)
    5) Nancy Pelosi

    and who is FOR Snowden?

    1) Ron and Rand Paul
    2) David Stockman, Former Economic Advisor to Ronald Reagan
    3) Andrew Napolitano, Senior Judicial Analyst for Fox News

    The funny thing is: Everybody knows what Snowden says is true but the only people with the onions to focus NOT on Snowden but his revelation that the NSA has, with Obama’s blessing, shat on the 4th Amendment of the Constitution against illegal search and seizure without just cause … are CONSERVATIVES.

    Both parties are part of the new Amerikan Police State Apparatus but the few who are blatant about calling it out are old school libertarian-style Republicans. Things are getting bad when GLENN BECK has a more rational attitude about what the Snowden affair means to the country than John Kerry and Chuck Schumer who, while doofuses, had the chimera of rationality.

    E.

    • fuck me my name is kunstler June 28, 2013 at 8:42 am #

      why bother with this crowd you speak the truth,

      of course all those so called ‘fucking’ liberals you mentioned have been ‘gun grabbers’ all along, and those in the know, know they be zion right wing nazi sympathizers,..

      so what gives?

      nazification of USA is coming fast,

  132. Eleuthero June 28, 2013 at 5:28 am #

    From Andrew Napolitano, Fox News Judicial Analyst about Edward Snowden:

    “Indeed, when Edward Snowden revealed a copy of an order signed by FISA court Judge Roger Vinson — directing Verizon to turn over phone records of all of its 113,000,000 U.S. customers in direct and profound violation of the individualized probable cause commanded by the Constitution — Vinson himself did not have a copy of that order. Truly, this is the only court in the country in which the judges keep no records of their rulings.
    At the same time that Vinson signed that order, NSA staffers, in compliance with their statutory obligations, told select members of Congress about it, and they, too, were sworn to secrecy. Oregon Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden was so troubled when he learned this — a terrible truth that he agreed not to reveal — that he mused aloud that the Obama administration had a radical and terrifying interpretation of certain national security statutes.
    But he did more than muse about it. He asked Gen. James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, who was under oath and at a public congressional hearing, whether his spies were gathering data on millions of Americans. Clapper said no. The general later acknowledged that his answer was untruthful, but he claimed it was the “least untruthful” reply he could have given. This “least untruthful” nonsense is not a recognized defense to the crime of perjury.
    After we learned that the feds are spying on nearly all Americans, that they possess our texts and emails and have access to our phone conversations, Gen. Keith Alexander, who runs the NSA, was asked under oath whether his spies have the ability to read emails and listen to telephone calls. He answered, “No, we don’t have that authority.” Since the questioner — FBI agent turned Congressman Mike Rogers — was in cahoots with the general in keeping Americans in the dark about unconstitutional search warrants, there was no follow-up question. In a serious public interrogation, a committee chair interested in the truth would have directed the general to answer the question that was asked.
    Since that deft and misleading act, former NSA staffers have told Fox News that the feds can read any email and listen to any phone call, and Alexander and Rogers know that. So Alexander’s “no,” just like his boss’s “no,” was a lie at worst and seriously misleading at
    best.

    This is not an academic argument. The oath to tell the truth — “the whole truth and nothing but the truth” — also makes those who intentionally mislead Congress subject to prosecution for perjury.
    President Obama is smarter than his generals. He smoothly told a friendly interviewer and while not under oath that the feds are not listening to our phone calls or reading our emails. He, of course, could not claim that they lack the ability to do so, because we all now know that he knows they can.
    These Snowden revelations continue to cast light on the feds when they prefer darkness. Whatever one thinks of Snowden’s world-traveling odyssey to avoid the inhumane treatment the feds visited upon Bradley Manning, another whistleblower who exposed government treachery, he has awakened a giant.
    The giant is a public that has had enough of violations of the Constitution and lies to cover them up.
    The giant is fed up with menial politicians and their media allies demonizing the messenger because his message embarrasses the government by revealing that it is unworthy of caring for the Constitution.
    Think about that: The very people in whose hands we have reposed the Constitution for preservation, protection, defense and enforcement have subverted it.
    Snowden spoke the truth. Knowing what would likely befall him for his truthful revelations and making them nevertheless was an act of heroism and patriotism.
    Thomas Paine once reminded the Framers that the highest duty of a patriot is to protect his countrymen from their government. We need patriots to do that now more than ever.
    Andrew P. Napolitano, a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey, is the senior judicial analyst at Fox News Channel. Judge Napolitano has written seven books on the U.S. Constitution. His latest is “Theodore and Woodrow: How Two American Presidents Destroyed Constitutional Freedom.”

    End of Quote.

    E.

    • ozone June 28, 2013 at 8:41 am #

      E.,
      Directly after, we have a weak refutation/dilution of this quote to the effect of. “He’s working for us”.

      There’s nothing here that would indicate anything of the kind. (If I were to make up a really wacky theory, it would be that Napolitano is being used for a megaphone to channel the viewers’ anger, and thus neutralize it. The effect, of course, is to magnify that anger at these betrayals. BTW, I certainly am not lacking for wacky theories. 😉 )

      Can folks be so easily diverted by such naked non-arguments and blatant lying these days? Sheesh.

      …And, yes, lying to Congress used to be a really big deal! However, lying to oneself and the ‘Murkin people (as in the Rogers-Alexander mash-up) seems never to have been more than S.O.P.
      (Technically though, even the congressman was knowingly lying to Congress. Get out your rule books!)

  133. Carol Newquist June 28, 2013 at 6:35 am #

    In the old blog days you were the biggest moron on the board and your remain the biggest moron on the board.

    Wow, with a post like that, so mightily judgmental, you should have made damn sure you were grammatically immortal. But you didn’t, and that’s very telling. You do get a few extra points for your use of the word garish to help offset the penalty for using your instead of you, but still, I’m disappointed….but not surprised.

    Oh, and thanks for revealing you’re the sockpuppet that keeps posting under a thousand different names. The overuse of caps is a dead giveaway. It was you, Stalin’s handmaiden, all along. I suspected as much. That’s your character, or lack thereof. Don’t worry though, Being There will always be there for you.

    • Eleuthero June 28, 2013 at 7:35 am #

      As usual, you’re an incorrect moron. I’m Eleuthero and I’ve never been anything else unless a tech glitch made me change my handle for a short while. Why do you need to have three accounts?

      Unlike you, I earned and excelled my way through life instead of working other people for handouts.

      E.

  134. Carol Newquist June 28, 2013 at 6:43 am #

    If you find ‘em K-dog, please list ‘em.

    Good. You’ve finely wised up and you’re going to take my advice and get the fuck out. Nobody wants you in the U.S.. Maybe the good folks at zerohedge can put you up and help supplement that paltry income of your’s. I understand why you’re so angry; I would be too if I were making less than $32,000/year. All those brains, and you’ve nothing to show for it besides a brown nose. Such a shame. Don’t let the border door hit you in the ass on the way out.

  135. NSA June 28, 2013 at 6:57 am #

    No joke, this is Snowden’s favorite song. You already know how we know this. Snowden didn’t need to tell you what was obvious. What he won’t tell you is what isn’t obvious but should be. Judge Napolitano Icecream says everything we want him to say. We’re ten steps ahead. You have no idea what any of this is all about. It doesn’t matter anyway. Even if you did figure it out, which you can’t and won’t, you could do nothing to stop it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy1T0kKUgx0

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    • fuck me my name is kunstler June 28, 2013 at 8:45 am #

      I like the atlantic/slate theory that snowden is NOT a real person,

      look the whole thing high school drop out $200k salary, and super model SQUEEZE

      Too good to be true, this is classical CHOMSKY manufacturing-consent,

      THus why?

      My guess is now that the NSA budget is about 1/2 of the GDP they ought go public and be embraced as heros for protecting us from their own false-flags, …

      Never underestimate the STUPIDITY of the US public, — PT BARNUM 1922

      • ozone June 28, 2013 at 8:59 am #

        BUT, would they have to do the Pauladeen ‘Pology before the warm embracings? (That would play well. I see good ratings and ad revenues!)

    • ozone June 28, 2013 at 8:51 am #

      BT,
      You have piqued my curiosity; I await further revelations.
      (And silly refutations. The nsa poster is pretty entertaining and provides off-handed insight.)

      • ozone June 28, 2013 at 9:17 am #

        LOL!
        “He sees you when you’re sleeping;
        He knows if you’re awake;
        He knows if you’ve been bad or good,
        Be a good German for goo’ness sake…”
        You better watch out!

        ‘Splainin’:
        http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

        (The first example is the Catholic Choich’s response to the pedophilia scandal. Aaahahahaha!)

        • Jaego June 28, 2013 at 12:28 pm #

          You are White so why haven’t you killed yourself yet? You hate other Whites but that’s not enough anymore. You have to show more than just vicarious sacrifice now. You are sincere, right? So….

          • ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 6:47 pm #

            Bwahaha!!! (3rd time a *charm*?)

            “There ain’t no good in our goodbyin’,
            True love takes a lot of tryin’,
            Oh, I’m …”

            ([WAVE] to the *SAME-OLD* sockie with 10-15+++ aliases (often hijacked?), spam-replying to *himself* so that any intellectual discussion bumps to “prior” comments page. Oh, “reply to reply” limit bug fix apparently made it *worse*? Le’s all go medieval, liek the Nips, and toast to some SAKI!!!)

          • Ix June 28, 2013 at 8:10 pm #

            Rly?!. O.o

            “SET US UP THE *BOMB*!!!”

          • Ixnei June 28, 2013 at 8:21 pm #

            I find myself in strange agreement wif’ E, concerning Fox news -vs- CNN/MSNBC, recently. The former seems FINALLY to be semi-sane in its reporting (*SHOCKING*!!!)- the latter only seems content to cover the T/Z trial *non-stock*, and other assorted (serial?) murderers and individual *scape-goats* (in order to scare the sheeple into submission?).

            Bwah – slow week – hehe! I’m *GUESSING* the fed DID in fact inject that $100b this month… 2.59% 10-yr rate already down 5% in a couple *DAZE*. Good thing *DHS* “off-books” – LULZ!!!

          • BleatToTheBeat June 28, 2013 at 9:47 pm #

            HA!

            Ok….ok. Here’s another JOKE (with apologies to KDog)

            Blind guy walks into a bar with his Seeing-Eye Dog. He does not approach the bar, but, instead, lifts the dog over his head and starts swinging it round and round by it’s tail.

            The bartender, horrified, screams

            “Hey STOP that! Waddya doin’ ?!”

            Blind guy calmly places his dog back on the ground and says

            “I’m lookin’ around.”

          • IxNoMor June 28, 2013 at 10:21 pm #

            I didn’t know soaker whuz a *reverend* (minister? – haha, *mutha* “Gaius Helen Mohiam”)?!? Those *mastah-debatah* files came in handy, huh (can argue *EITHER* side *equally* well)…

          • BleatToTheBeat June 28, 2013 at 11:16 pm #

            Little Richard is a “Reverend”. Larry Graham is a “Reverend”.

            Every time The Ancient Smythe (mom) tells me to get a haircut, I gotsa duct tape her down to one of those green & white lawn chairs so she can get some religion.

            Bow yo head mofo.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm14ReyVpZw

          • e sutton June 28, 2013 at 11:38 pm #

            Gotta dig those ’70s bands, dude. Rockin the house!

          • ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 11:25 pm #

            Rhino bleat, “I see all!!!”

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJM7TdshUbw

          • BleatToTheBeat June 28, 2013 at 11:41 pm #

            HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY KNOW!

            I am currently spending a great deal of time, energy, and fuckin’ MONEY compiling a comprehensive history of YES for my dying brother.

            This shit is SERIOUSLY freakin’ me out.

            http://imghumour.com/categories/lol-dogs/view/im-serious-this-is-my-serious-face

          • Ixnei June 29, 2013 at 12:17 am #

            “BleatToTheBeat June 28, 2013 at 11:41 pm #

            HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY KNOW!”

            Reading your *mind*? Hehe, collective consciousness/holographic universe/”SHRIMP PLATE”/*ETC*… Lattice (matrix?) of *coinky-doinks*!!!

          • BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 12:25 am #

            Someone say

            Scrimp?

          • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:36 am #

            Haha! U rewrote *HISTORY*!!! That’s sum F*k’d up SH! (scroll back and see *SOCKIE* in all his *GLORY*!!!)

          • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:45 am #

            JHK – SRSLY – get to your *GARDEN* and quit *FUXORING* me!!! Lattice of *WHU…*!!!

          • Ix Cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:56 am #

            Most of the moss accumulating on the North side of a tree can be edible if properly steamed and dried out. There may hope for civilization yet. donning your old muffin top, that is and securing a strong place to belly up to the bar.- notwithstanding.. bwahhhh!!!

          • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 1:08 am #

            Good try, *SOCKIE*. U make me infuriated, unless you R *indeed* “him” (then I just *SHUT UP* – ahaha, “his” page, n’all)…

          • ix having temper tantrum June 29, 2013 at 1:22 am #

            Please don’t go messing with the doulingflanks, for rthe are only there for the perspicacity of being needed during times of basically unsettled. Instead find yourselves some rivoting assmaster footage, kick your feet up, and with a free hand, free Willy!

          • BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 1:34 am #

            rthe

            Not familiar.

            Go outside. Let the bugs eat on you for awhile. Get in some fights and try to figure out how to get the dried blood off of your face so you can get fed. Learn how to dodge the authorities. Do you have guns? They do. Don’t get sick when you haven’t bathed for a month. Or two. Can you carry your most important documents without them getting taken away from you?

            Politics?

            We’re just getting started.

          • ix WHUZ cryin June 29, 2013 at 1:44 am #

            “ix having temper tantrum June 29, 2013 at 1:22 am #

            Please don’t go messing with the doulingflanks, for rthe are only there for the perspicacity of being needed during times of basically unsettled.”

            Good one, *SOCKIE*!!! (almost *legible* – too!)

            “goin down~!”:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2s7WMVMDjU

            (Johnson/Vai/Satriani)

          • BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 2:29 am #

            I could have, should have, would have…

            Plowed through lotsa versions of “Goin’ Down”.

            But this one Sonically Rocked. Joe, Steve, and Eric, who had the good goddamn sense to protect his ears. It was a “coolness” compromise. Yes, he had the 335, but he looked like a United Airlines baggage handler.

            The Courage.

            So, my last post was “almost legible” ? I suppose to the likes of you it was. Probably because I was standing on a ledge while contemplating the necessary amount of “rudeness” that it takes to properly play “Goin’ Down”.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_ONyukSLqA

          • IxNoMor June 29, 2013 at 2:41 am #

            “So, my last post was “almost legible” ”

            If’n U’r “ix having temper tantrum”, you fucking douchbag.

          • Ix June 29, 2013 at 2:44 am #

            d00d, he don’t even *MEMBAZ* the last *ALIAS* he *ASSUMED*…

          • BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 2:53 am #

            Bagh O’Douche

          • BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 2:57 am #

            Fuckin’ Mics

          • Ix June 29, 2013 at 3:02 am #

            “BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 2:53 am #

            Bagh O’Douche”

            So you admit you’re *SOCKIE*?!? Quit cryin’, and start being *SCARED* of the extinction of all life on *MUTHA* “EARTH”…

          • IxNoMor June 29, 2013 at 3:05 am #

            You’d not believe, but *GHAD* gave us a reprieve, concerning solar irradiance *MAX* – it’s apparently 50% – believe *DAT*!!!

          • BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 3:23 am #

            Hmmm….

            After a lot of time in Chicago, the only “SOCKIE” that I will admit to being is a “WHITE SOCKIE”

            Well, Vlad should love that.

            Honestly, I loathe the American (Beer & Whiskey) League.

            It’s the National League or go spit.

            Once, I was a Cubs batboy.

            So, I’m damned.

            BUT I DON’T CARE!

            Rooting for American League teams is an unnatural act.

            Sincerely,

            Ty Cobb

          • ix WHUZ cryin June 29, 2013 at 3:31 am #

            So you *WERE* “ix having temper tantrum”, you fucking asswipe. No mercy – sorry, source *ELSEWHERE*… *NO MERCY*.

          • BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 3:38 am #

            Hey!

            There’s no time like Valium time.

            Nightey Night.

            Thinking Of You,

            Dr. Robert

          • asoka June 30, 2013 at 1:51 am #

            Was this site down today?

          • Eleuthero June 30, 2013 at 5:03 am #

            Wow, that’s an understatement. Somebody is now posing as me with my Eleuthero handle. This blog has become a cacaphony of trolls. Your “improvement” over the old site has made it ten times worse.

            E.

          • BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 1:15 am #

            I really don’t have to watch an hour long video to know that you have no idea how to interrogate (yeah! that word exists! I looked it up!)

            someone.

            It’s a Magical Mystery Tour depending on your point of view.

            Reveal my IP?

            Well, that’s a rather personal question.

          • IxRaging June 29, 2013 at 1:24 am #

            “interrogate (yeah! that word exists!)”

            Does that *amuse* U? Is it funny, liek a *CLOWN*? Does it make you *laugh*?!?

          • progressorConserve June 29, 2013 at 12:52 am #

            To be fair, Eleuthro complains about a situation where he now rents rooms out to colleged coeds, so I think we are safe in our conjecture that his life is fairly complicated at this stage. He’s a good man but clearly there are issues in his life he might want to consider solving before he attempts to work out problems on this thread. I’m willing to give E a try at that. He’s my friend, and i know he’d do it for me too.

          • Eleuthero June 30, 2013 at 4:53 am #

            PorC … I have ZERO idea what the fuck you’re talking about. Eleuthro is NOT me … Eleuthero … note the missing second ‘e’. This site now has so many trolls hiding under so many identities that it has once again become worthless.

            The Real E.

          • asoka June 30, 2013 at 12:17 pm #

            Carol contains multitudes. Eleuthro may be one of them.

          • Asoka June 30, 2013 at 6:30 pm #

            Is it yr fault or ours?
            ‘This blog has become a true clusterfuck.’

          • Asoka June 30, 2013 at 6:36 pm #

            It appears that ANYONE who so desires can pose as Asoka.
            [at least here] ..Try it if you like.
            Ha Ha Ha.

          • Asoka June 30, 2013 at 7:46 pm #

            Asoka was never ‘real’. Only a fantasy [DoD?].

          • BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 12:52 am #

            Sockies!

            You don’t get to “emerge” until you have Lambchop.

            This is how the morality is passed on.

            Well, in my lifetime anyway.

            I had to excuse myself when they started talking about spanking.

            I wonder if Bullwinkle would approve?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2b4vUZ7wR4

          • asoka June 29, 2013 at 2:58 pm #

            ‘Eleuthero complains about the disappearing middle class.’
            Noting a FACT about the USA is not ‘plaining’, eh, Carol?

          • ix screamin, wishing 4 brighter days June 28, 2013 at 11:42 pm #

            When poastin I need necessarily drop former qualification at repudiations. Bwahhh!!! The sockie puppetry come in full force into the nether regions.

          • Ixnei June 29, 2013 at 12:13 am #

            “ix screamin, wishing 4 brighter days”

            *SAKI* gotz sum new *ALIASES* (really? go “figure”)… Derail as long as U *CAN* – no matter. We *know* your agenda (and I hate to think it’s *HIM*, as he has no tiem to *police*!!!).

          • IxNoMor June 29, 2013 at 12:24 am #

            That’s why, from *DAY 1,* I “recommended” attaching an IP address to each comment {sigh}…

          • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:46 am #

            I’m sorry – *WHU…*?!?

            (IxNoMor June 29, 2013 at 12:24 am #

            That’s why, from *DAY 1,* I “recommended” attaching an IP address to each comment {sigh}…)

          • Ixnei June 29, 2013 at 12:48 am #

            *SCARED* to show that IP? haha, you *WEENIES*!!!

          • Ixnei June 29, 2013 at 12:53 am #

            NE-1 EVER solve the *video* version?!? (I think I *DID*):

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymec2dg4O8A

            (self-stroking *ROXORZ*)

          • Ix June 29, 2013 at 1:12 am #

            (and I hate to think it’s *HIM*, as he has no tiem to *police*!!!).

            Irony? or *AGONY*… Whoever is “Quick and *dead*”!!! Breathing through an O2 cannister?!… [ducks]

          • BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 12:03 am #

            Doctors in the United Snakes…

            Funny thing about Humans.

            You can find the answers in their art.

            I wouldn’t want anyone else to know

            About the way you really are

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ4nOBXDVK8

          • BleatToTheBeat June 28, 2013 at 10:12 pm #

            About Ms. Jeantel’s testimony:

            Oh…my…god.

            The most troubling aspect is that someone thought that it was a good idea to trot her out in front of the cameras. I was transfixed. Probably the most “thought provoking” TV racial encounter that I personally have experienced since the USA’s 440 Relay Team protest at the ’68 Olympics.

            There is no good outcome for this trial. No one gets to “feel good” about this.

            Perhaps a good time to review T. Dreiser’s “An American Tragedy”.

            Instant Karma’s gonna get you.

      • Eleuthro June 28, 2013 at 6:47 pm #

        One addition to your list: Somebody’s Watching Me.

        • Eleuthero June 28, 2013 at 9:07 pm #

          This person is NOT me. It’s probably Carol Assquist doing her thang.

          E.

          • Ix June 29, 2013 at 2:21 am #

            Sometimes the message iz *THERE*, and sometimes – a $6-fig-salaried-govt-stalka works *HIS* “moves”… [smooth] *POOF* – “MAJIK”!!!

          • Ixnei June 29, 2013 at 2:23 am #

            So exactly *WHEN* did U cum up w/ “$6-fig-salaried-govt-stalka”?!? Back in 2000?!?

            *GRATZ*!!!

          • IxNoMor June 29, 2013 at 2:25 am #

            “$6-fig-salaried-govt-stalka”

            Well, at *least* DHS is *OFF-BOOKS*!!! Heh. (anyone, *ANYONE*!!!)

        • Eleuthero June 28, 2013 at 9:07 pm #

          This person is NOT me!

          E.

    • CIA Goes PIMP June 28, 2013 at 7:05 pm #

      operation hangout, is all over the country, the CIA kidnaps young women, and offers ‘sex houses’ for cop’s. ( CASTRO ARIEL OHIO ), real shit, ( Ariel CASTRO was CIA, so says his mother ).

      CIA & NSA are fighting, … the CIA has been left out to the cold on much of NSA’s data, DHS of course has even MORE domestic data than NHS,

      FBI/IRS have more offices outside the USA than IN, go figure

      THE NSA has gone domestic,and the IRS has gone global,

      At the end of the day all INTEL is largely to be fed to the IRS in search of COIN.

      CIA will become nothing more than PIMPS, not unlike the JAP’S during WWII that had sex houses they could go to get their rocks off by fucking kidnapped chinese women.

  136. BackRowHeckler June 28, 2013 at 7:05 am #

    Looks like WTI Crude could top $100 per barrel today! How come all this new Domestic Crude Production, in Texas and ND, isn’t bringing down prices? Economist on CNBC says its the ‘summer driving season’, but isn’t every season the driving season?

    BRH

  137. Carol Newquist June 28, 2013 at 7:07 am #

    Its a parody of one.

    You forgot the apostrophe. It’s it’s, not its.

    Anyhow, this has always been my favorite song, testosterone be damned. I love me some Neil Diamond.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGvMjgLXBi0

    Do you need a man, Being There? If not yet, soon you will. Every Little Lady will in the slow-approaching World Made by Hand, even if they’re menopausal. If you have a hole and you’re breathing, you’ll do just fine.

  138. Carol Newquist June 28, 2013 at 7:10 am #

    How come all this new Domestic Crude Production, in Texas and ND, isn’t bringing down prices?

    Because the price of oil has nothing to do with supply and demand. It hasn’t for quite some time now, but Cold War relics like to believe it still does.

  139. ozone June 28, 2013 at 9:03 am #

    (Sorry, my replies to posts are not showing up under them. More confusion please.)

  140. ozone June 28, 2013 at 9:45 am #

    Well now! On the subject of digital money shenanigans and confidence games, we [supposedly] have a cyber attack drill for wall st. Will something morph to ‘tragically real’ with this drill? That seems to be how these little ‘games’ have been terminating for quite some time.

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2276714/pg1

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  141. ozone June 28, 2013 at 9:47 am #

    cyber attack drill for the trading floor:

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2276714/pg1

  142. ozone June 28, 2013 at 9:48 am #

    June 28th
    wall st drill

  143. ozone June 28, 2013 at 9:49 am #

    Hmmmm, comments not going through

  144. ozone June 28, 2013 at 10:20 am #

    Shenanigans afoot?
    Drill for crawl sweet today.

  145. ozone June 28, 2013 at 10:37 am #

    Crap! Now they ALL show up. Apologies and Pauladeenies! 🙁

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  146. BackRowHeckler June 28, 2013 at 11:08 am #

    What do Bradley Manning, The Cambridge 5, Alger Hiss and now Mr. Snowden all have in common?

    I imagine Snowden is getting some rough treatment at the hands of the Russian Security Services right about now, who aren’t known for their tenderness. Of course they learned from the best (CHEKA, OPGU, KGB)

    • BackRowHeckler June 28, 2013 at 4:53 pm #

      I guess Snowden is not aware of the fate of thousands of American Communists who emigrated to Russia in the 20s and 30s. (Not that Snowden is a Commy). Very few were ever heard from again. Some were even executed at the pier in Murmansk as they landed. It seems the CHEKA was in need at the time of some Western Passports.

      He probably should have read up on his Russian history a little better.

  147. Shorty June 28, 2013 at 11:18 am #

    GOP commits suicide! 15 million undocumented democrats are being converted into normal vote-for-more-free-stuff democrats……with another 15 million right behind them. Lettuce picker back and melon picker elbow will qualify for lifetime soc sec disabilty…….and aid to dependent kiddies,medicaid, food stamps, rent subsidy, obamaphone, counseling, retraining, minority preferences, etc etc. You GOP dummies can kiss off another 5 or 10 states….learn to habla some espanol, dude!

  148. UFIA June 28, 2013 at 11:35 am #

    Well, for anyone even slightly interested in seeing whether Edward Snowden’s credibility holds in the court of public opinion, despite clear attempts by msm pundits to dichotimize this man’s image as either hero or traitor and distract the public from the larger points, here’s an interesting discussion with the Guardian editors who helped break the story:

    http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/13005

    Charlie just can’t seem to help trying to prompt anyone he speaks to about this to help castigate Snowden as simply a narcissistic troublemaker and opportunist, but it looks like it’s not working.

    From my point of view Snowden is all the way legit; his motives at least honorably antagonistic, and this makes him a more powerful symbol whereas Julian Assange turned out to be a fame whore thus defeating the noble intentions of the larger Wiki-leaks organization. Again, I realize many here have dug rather deep into this story and will argue what’s being covered in the msm is intentionally superficial, but where I’m interested is in seeing whether the Snowden symbolism remains strong enough to encourage the average Joes to adopt more of a rebelious attitude toward all the government corruption. I know – shit in one hand and wish in the other… see which hand grows heavier, eh?

    And it looks like Snowden is much brighter than many of the shills would like to spin; he likely has better, more damning information to reveal as he continues to leverage it for his freedom. Am I wrong in thinking this is the biggest story of the year so far?

    UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject

  149. Jaego June 28, 2013 at 12:26 pm #

    Thought provoking quote from Chomsky: Capitalism is anti-racist because it’s anti-human.

    So the corollary? True Culture are human and therefore racist – choosing their own people before others as is natural. White privilege? Our Ancestors built White Nations for Whites. Why would anyone expect them to build them for somebody else?

    http://www.newrightausnz.com/2005/11/28/big-business-as-a-supporter-of-anti-racism-noam-chomsky/

  150. Not Yo’ Mama’s Banana Pudding June 28, 2013 at 12:45 pm #

    Every breath you take, I’ll be watching you.

    There’s a little black spot on Paula Deen’s sun today
    It’s not the fact that her son Bobby is gay
    It’s her soiled soul up there

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  151. Yo' Mama's Banana Pudding June 28, 2013 at 12:47 pm #

    Every breath you take, I’ll be watching you.

    There’s a little black spot on Paula Deen’s sun today
    It’s not the fact that her son Bobby is gay
    It’s her soiled soul up there

  152. Paula Deen's Hollis June 28, 2013 at 12:58 pm #

    Eleuthero has shuffled the comments deck so now your comment could be anywhere. The question therefore is, how random is the sample. Bartender, a triple helping of my famous Bacon-Burger Cheesecake for everyone. It’s my great granpappy’s recipe before he shot himself after losing his slaves. Hollis is my de facto slave. He’ll do just about anything I ask for a few measly dollars and some of great granpappy’s famous Bacon-Burger Cheesecake. Sometimes, Hollis and I share the same insulin pump. Don’t tell my friends. They’d hang Hollis of they found out. I hope the comments work themselves out. I feel like I’m amongst friends here. I hope shorty’s not taken. He seems like a cutie-pie. I could just eat him up, and I love that name.

  153. Kdog June 28, 2013 at 3:34 pm #

    Asoka is coming to town?
    I think its DoD attempting to disrupt JHKs site.

    • ozone June 28, 2013 at 4:03 pm #

      Ya THINK?? 😀
      What I want to know is, who ASSIGNED these assholes to provide the unending pestilence here?
      I believe that will be the last gasp of the intrusive part of the internet miracle: the hunting. (See, they don’t think there’s a 2-way street that can ever be accessed here. Anything that can be built can be deconstructed.)

  154. ozone June 28, 2013 at 6:25 pm #

    To those fatally infected with the hubris19.84 virus:

    What I want to know is, who ASSIGNED these assholes to provide the unending pestilence here?
    I believe that will be the last gasp of the intrusive part of the internet miracle: the hunting. (See, they don’t think there’s a 2-way street that can ever be accessed here. Anything that can be built can be deconstructed.)

    Good night and…………….good luck.

  155. ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 6:44 pm #

    “There ain’t no good in our goodbyin’,
    True love takes a lot of tryin’,
    Oh, I’m …”

    ([WAVE] to the *SAME-OLD* sockie with 10-15+++ aliases (often hijacked?), spam-replying to *himself* so that any intellectual discussion bumps to “prior” comments page. Oh, “reply to reply” limit bug fix apparently made it *worse*? Le’s all go medieval, liek the Nips, and toast to some SAKI!!!)

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  156. ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 6:46 pm #

    “There ain’t no good in our goodbyin’,
    True love takes a lot of tryin’,
    Oh, I’m …”

    ([WAVE] to the *SAME-OLD* sockie with 10-15+++ aliases (often hijacked?), spam-replying to *himself* so that any intellectual discussion bumps to “prior” comments page. Oh, “reply to reply” limit bug fix apparently made it *worse*? Let’s all go medieval, liek the Nips, and toast to some SAKI!!!)

  157. ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 6:53 pm #

    How can you have your pudding? Bligh! And what it is it’s not…

    Is it the basic premise now sockie and ++++asorted aliases that *to no one other* being it something that moreover should become troublesome?

  158. KUNSTLER FUCK June 28, 2013 at 7:06 pm #

    “Safe Houses for PUSSY”

    The CIA has gone ‘domestic’, the FBI/IRS have gone global, and the NSA collects data for CONGRESS/EXECUTIVE…

    What a fucking KUNSLTER FUCK

    ***

    operation hangout, is all over the country, the CIA kidnaps young women, and offers ‘sex houses’ for cop’s. ( CASTRO ARIEL OHIO ), real shit, ( Ariel CASTRO was CIA, so says his mother ).

    CIA & NSA are fighting, … the CIA has been left out to the cold on much of NSA’s data, DHS of course has even MORE domestic data than NHS,

    FBI/IRS have more offices outside the USA than IN, go figure

    THE NSA has gone domestic,and the IRS has gone global,

    At the end of the day all INTEL is largely to be fed to the IRS in search of COIN.

    CIA will become nothing more than PIMPS, not unlike the JAP’S during WWII that had sex houses they could go to get their rocks off by fucking kidnapped chinese women.

  159. KUNSTLER FUCK June 28, 2013 at 7:19 pm #

    Ariel Castro (CIA) – OHIO – Abu Graib (Naked Women in dog leashes on all fours ) – OBAMA ( Every USA citizen on all fours )

    Sex Slave Nation

    CIA babysitter, and NSA finder, …

    The assignment was handed to me by the DCI Gates, the DCI for Bush, Sr. as President. He wanted me to go to Bakersfield, California, about a 3 hour drive from where I lived and train a gang of kids how to kill.
    To be specific, Gates at a meeting told a group of us, senior CIA people, about the new initiative — the plan to phase out the “down-line” kids after 2 years instead of cutting them loose. He explained that this was necessary because the kids were too unruly and uppity after two years to obey the CIA officer.
    However, cutting them loose meant that a good 20% of them ended up working for the opposition or for themselves. They thus became competition and cut into the Cabal’s profits. I pointed out that the 2-year limit was arbitrary and it was unfair to waste the kids. In fact, about 40% continued to be good producers and obedient. So even if one ascribed to the idea that the unruly should be killed, which I did not, this 2-year policy was blatantly unjust. And the 60% were unruly criminals only because the CIA had made them that way starting from kids they had selected as well-behaved and intelligent.
    But Gates refused to change the policy, which was set by the Cabal on the recommendation of an independent think tank on how to maximize Cabal profits. So even though 3 times in this meeting of about 15 people, I object to this program for various moral reasons I got nowhere.
    I recommended that the CIA at least study how to assess these kids as to which were worth retaining with an eye to their moving up into the CIA later. It was a stalling maneuver on my part to try to delay the execution order. Gates would not consider it. He was going to obey this execution order without delay. The kids were to do the executions of each other.
    It reminded me of the purge when I was 9, when only 3 of over a thousand of us survived the purge. I wanted to cry. I stared out the window of the 7th floor at the tops of the trees in the distance while Gates kept on talking. He complained that I was ignoring him. I wasn’t ignoring him. I was thinking about what it would take for me to throw him through the glass pane to his death.

    After I figured out how I could do it, I thought about whether it would actually stop the kids from being executed by the Cabal. When, sadly, I saw by looking at the future that it would not, I gave up the plan.
    At that moment, Gates turned to me and told me that I was to be one of his bodyguards that night. That was not an unusual assignment — I often did some bodyguard work for DCIs at night — usually while in their beds. Fortunately, Gates was not requiring me to do it from his bed. He just wanted me with him that night so he could get me to play a Russian Chess master. I mention that because as I was in the middle of playing Gufeld (sp) and winning, it occurred to me that if I could beat a competent chess master using my remote viewing skills I should be able to figure out how to outwit Gates and prevent the execution order from going forward the next week.
    The next day, instead of throwing Gates out of a window of the 7th floor, I threw his chess set out the window. I was accused of littering. I used the opportunity to get out of the rest of the meeting, the second part on implementing the execution order.
    As I picked up the chess pieces, I was crying and imaging them to be those children. I put them in the box and then feeling rather irrationally that I had just accidentally put them in prison, I took them out and lined them up on the sidewalk as if to start a chess game. A high-ranking analyst, the equivalent of the number 2 man in the dept. happened by and we started playing a game of chess on the sidewalk.
    Part way through as he was losing he said, “You seem upset. This isn’t like you. Is there anything I can do to help?”
    I burst into tears and then explained the execution order. He listened patiently and then he said, “Oh, I think that I could hold that up for at least a good 6 months.” He was as good as his word. He managed to initiate “crucial” studies of the cost-benefit ratio of the plan.
    Unfortunately, even his own analysts concluded that it was more cost effective to kill them all after 2 years than to have the case officers assess them as to which should not be terminated. The logic of that went something like, “If the officers have to decide which to save, they will want to save their favorites. And having decided to save the kids that they personally are screwing in their beds, they will be tempted to save some others as well. Since any one of them talking could destroy the revenue stream of the Agency, they none should be excluded from this necessary measure.” That appalled me.

    The only reason that the CIA could think of for saving a person was to go on screwing them in bed. I thought about that relative to my own position in the CIA. As useful as my remote viewing skills were, it was true that I, as a slave, probably would not have survived had I not regularly been in the beds of the DCIs.
    I did go to Bakersfield and meet with the gang of largely 13 year olds. I did not teach them how to kill well. I taught them how to die well. I was quite honest with them. I explained to them that the CIA wanted them dead after two years on the job and intended to get them to kill their buddies.
    There was only one gang in Bakersfield to speak of and I had been sent to that city because the CIA was not sure how to get a single gang to kill itself. They assumed that I would figure out how to split it in two in a divide and conquer strategy.
    When I finished explaining this to these normally loud and restless youths, the recreation hall was dead silent. One of them asked me what I recommended they do.
    They could see for themselves that it was easy to split them into warring fractions and get them to fight other. I told them that I recommended that they learn to die protecting each other.
    “Against the whole CIA?” one girl asked anxiously.
    “Why not?” I asked. “It doesn’t matter how many people you have gunning for you if you can have the satisfaction of dying to protect a friend.”
    They understood that. These teenagers that had been running drugs and pimping for the CIA, understood that they could get personal satisfaction from helping a friend.
    So I taught them how to die for each other. How to put their bodies in front of another while others aimed a gun at them or swung two by fours at them.
    We practiced it a couple of hours together. That was all the time I had with them.

    The execution order came down about 8 months later. The CIA sent in another person into Bakersfield to divide and conquer them. He tried and then wrote a report saying that he didn’t know what I had done, but the kids had such solidarity with each other that nothing he did to divide them worked.
    None of those kids died. The CIA could not get them to kill each other and by the grace of God, the police refused to arrest them. I heard later that as a group they voted to go straight and stop pimping for the CIA.
    No doubt the CIA recruited other kids through mind control measures. It was only a small victory against evil but it was a victory none-the-less.
    I managed to report this intervention on my part as an important research study on non-violent resistance and since the CIA had some interest in learning about the methods that could be used against them, they accepted that explanation. It was because of good skills that I managed to survive.
    Not long after the execution order went into effect, there was backlash against it from the case officers in the field. Some quit.
    Some refused to carry it out and some simply carried it out so ineffectively that is was like not carrying it out at all. In some cases warring gangs figured out what was going on and created truces to stop it.
    But mostly, the gangs fought each other and children in the US died like they did in third world countries of the US policies of men who care for Profits, Not People (see Chomsky’s book of that title.) Children died alone of gunshot wounds in back alleys afraid to go to the hospital for fear of arrest, or worse — the torture they had suffered at the hands of the mind controllers.
    Children got pregnant and had babies while they themselves were 11, 12, and 13 because the CIA had in effect forced their brothers to prostitute them to stay alive. And a whole safety of culture, of believing that a child could walk to the corner store safely, died under the CIA’s villainy.
    Corrupt politicians and agencies led to violence on the street and disruption of family life. American went from a society where one could leave one’s house unlock to one in which it was not safe to let your children out of one’s sight. And it happened in a single generation from the start of the CIA in 1947 until now.
    Cry, my beloved country, for what has been done to you in the name of national security.
    Cry, for the innocent children who were tortured and forced into crimes against their will and their sanity.
    Cry for the children stolen off the street and sold as sex slaves and human sacrifices.
    Have men no souls anymore that they rape, torture and corrupt the children that instead they are sworn to protect?

    A PARTIAL HISTORY OF MY EDUCATION IN THE SEX-SLAVE BUSINESS AT THE CIA

    I haven’t yet explained how I know all this about how the CIA handles its sex slave trade except to say that I was a sex slave myself at high level within the CIA.
    But my specific knowledge of it came about because of assignments I was given at the CIA.
    The first assignment that I had relative to this area was when I was still a teenager myself. Shortly after my sixteenth birthday I ran away from home and went to live with a neighbor. Helms was furious at me – mainly because I hadn’t told him that I was going to do it and for two days the CIA went wild looking for me. They were afraid that I had been picked up by the KGB.
    Helms gave me the assignment to investigate what happened to children that ran away from home and have in on his desk in one week. It didn’t give me much time.
    I investigated the issue in a variety of ways, from using the CIA’s library to remote viewing as that was my specialty inside the CIA and my reason d’etre in that location.
    First off, I found that it was not running away that was the problem, it was the sharks in the water that tried to take advantage of one later. Since the major shark in the water was the CIA and I had already been mauled by that one, running away did little to increase my risk.
    I said so in my report to Helms, saying, perhaps somewhat inadvisably given my enslaved condition that “since the CIA is the major reason why runaways end up in sexual slavery, my primary fault is that I did not run away from the CIA instead of running away merely from my abusive step-father.”
    In point of fact, I called the CIA on Monday after running away on Sunday, but my supervisor was out sick and my phone message did not get to Helms.
    My report was four pages long and Helms, not being satisfied that I was sufficiently repentent, assigned me to write 100 pages on the subject in a month, over the Christmas holidays.
    Meanwhile I went into Czechoslavia to find resistance fighters freezing in the forests as partisans after the fall of the Plague Spring and lead them into Hungaria. There were not many remote viewers at the time who could find people and breaks in the East-West border. So here I was trying to lead East Blockers to safety while viewing the enslavement of US children by the CIA in every spare moment of my time.
    Talk about why I was a multiple! It was really hard to square the reality of what happened to run-away children in the US with the rhetoric that the US was a free and democratic country.
    It was particularly poignant for me because I was leading these Czech resistance fighters to supposed freedom while taking them straight to the CIA which had sexually and brutally regularly tortured me since I was three. If they had known that, they never would have come with me.
    When I got back to the CIA with the over 200 East Bloc Resistance Fighters that I had rescued, Helms was overjoyed with my performance. I asked to be excused from writing the report but he refused.
    So I spent the next two days, typing furiously onto paper whatever came into my mind, pretty much like now. Out poured a history of American runaway children and their abuse at the hands of scoundrels and the CIA as soon as it was formed.
    Helms read it and cried, so his wife told me. But he didn’t change the CIA’s policies. Once near his death, I visited him and asked him why. He said to me, about two weeks before he died in a moment of uncharacteristic honesty, “I was afraid of what the perverts would do to me if I got in the way of their orgastic celebrations.”

    They were killing children in rituals. They still are. And the heads of the CIA are all cowards that prefer to allow American children be raped and tortured under them then be honorable men and protect them. They do not even lift a pen to abolish the CIA’s own torture of American children.
    Gates, the DCI under Bush, Sr. once said to me, “Someone will torture children so why shouldn’t we make a profit at it?”
    One could equally well say, someone will murder so we should sell weapons to make a profit from it. We already know that that is precisely what the CIA does. It doesn’t make it moral.
    The next time I was assigned to investigate the CIA’s sex slave business was when I was about 24 in about 1977. The war in Nam was over. Helms was gone. Colby was gone. But Bush Sr. was not. He was DCI. He asked me to plug up a leak in the sex slave revenues in the South.
    There was a CIA run brothel in New Orleans. It was losing money. No one could figue out how it could be doing that — it was doing a rip roaring business. Bush asked me to view it and figure out what was wrong.
    He handed me a report on the number of prostitutes and their wages per hour and also on the auctioning of sex slaves and how much they sold for on the block. It included the cost of wherehousing them and transporting them. It was all laid out in black and white. There was only one problem – the figures did not make sense. The housing and food costs were much too high for the number of slaves, etc.
    It turned out that the CIA official running that “safe house” was grossly under reporting the number of sex slaves sold on the block in order to pocket the money. He was on the average reporting only about one in four sex slaves that came through his hands. It turned out to be a chronic problem at the CIA.
    Men acting illegally for the CIA, often acted illegally for themselves as well. The CIA would set a goal of “laundering” a certain number of run-aways and “surplus” children into cash, and end up enslaving four times that number in order to accomplish that goal.

    The goal was sometimes stated by Gates and Bush, Sr. as a population control measure in which as long as the population of Hispanics or blacks was increasing meant that the goal was not being acheived. It was not clear to me that having sex with slaves was a realistic population control measure.
    I guess if one intended to kill the person as part of having sex with them then it could be seen as a population control measure.
    That is the standard Reverse Christian ritual.
    As a result of the report I wrote up for the CIA on that Safe House brothel, the director of it was replaced. I had hoped that the whole operation would be shut down.
    The next year I received a very embarassing award as the person at the CIA who had most improved efficiency at a CIA station. I had never even been to that New Orleans station, and it was in the US which officially made it illegal. I fought back tears as I accepted the award.
    It was a cruel joke, since I myself was a sex slave of Bush, Sr. People said that I had increased the number of CIA sex slaves in New Orleans by fourfold. That was not true. I instituted a administrative bookkeeping control mechanism by which all the sex slaves were put on the books.
    After that I had a reputation as someone who could make CIA stations shape up. It was a dubious distinction at best. Still under the Bush CIA Directorateship, I was asked, this time by the Dep. Director of Ops, to look at another CIA station that was losing money unreasonably. This one was in Guatemala.
    Much money was flowing into it from the CIA, and in spite of a boom Central American drug trade in which the CIA was the major overseer, this station was piling up debts. The cause of that quickly became apparent to me as I viewed the situation from the office of the DDO.
    The Head of the Guatamalean station’s right hand man was stealing cash by the bushel fulls. He was a Guatemalan general who was as cruel as he was crafty and the station head was too afraid of him to call him on his misdeed. Firing him did not work — he stayed without pay and continued stealing.
    In frustration, the DCI, Bush ordered him “neutralized.” The Guatemalan General learned of the hit order and shot the head of station instead. He was not killed but badly injured and had to be hospitalized. It was at this point that I was called into this mess to try to make the station work again – to try to make it financially successful.
    I decided that the way to do that was to harness the energy of the general for good. People at the CIA thought I was crazy. But since my plan was easy to implement and cost almost nothing by intelligence world standards it was put in place.
    The plan called for replacing the general’s mistress with another woman to be a good influence on him. It was almost an oxymoron to find a prostitute who would be a good influence on him, except that I had seen that he had already had one mistress that had been a good influence on him. I had the CIA pay her to get back together with him. It was a goodly sum of money, in the range of $100,000, whereas before she had been sleeping with him for about 200 a night as a high class call girl.
    Everyone was happy and the wounded head of station resumed his post and the situation worked and the station went back to making money.
    The next awards ceremony I received a similarly embarassing award. This time the award was for paying the most for a call girl. I had never met the woman. I merely had the ability to see what was wrong at a distance and recommend how to fix it.
    People said what I did bordered on the miraculous. It more clearly bordered on the immoral.
    I only mention this episode because as I viewed the problems of the station I saw how many sex workers they used and a great deal about the sex slave trade in an individual overseas CIA station.
    __________________

  160. ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 8:47 pm #

    Sentenel focusing on the real go, which is two consistent hear!!! Focusing on non essential mattering for not much else but the ship. Thinking the smell is not much more than a reasonable stench??? Bwahh!!! Couldn’t quite give the get in the manner from what not listing!!! Not likely as near as can be told!!!

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  161. ixnei June 28, 2013 at 8:57 pm #

    Fanable prose in churning with what it’s worth and maybe not scene??? Can’t say it’s not the aggegate scheduled as was listed when no equilibrium was mast forwarded!!! Unnecessary when waited in no vast term for the unititated as well as the catatonic states of being!!! At least a measured response hasn’t been deliberated!!! Bwahh!!!

    • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:42 am #

      Nice try *SOCKIE* – U batsh!t *CRA-Z*!!! HAHAHA!!!

  162. ix drunk crying wanting mama June 28, 2013 at 9:04 pm #

    It’s another pattern of sophistry nattering about something unrelenting but otherwise all too present. Clause may be something wanting the betterment of detail and not getting around to the crux of matter. Sentinels quiet now and not allowing centrist, over arching degrees of careful pruning!!! Is that what the ***sockies***would be wanting on this or any other dais??? Not what is generally considered knowing or being of probable weighted matter???

    • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:42 am #

      Weaksauce – but *EXPECTED* – you bottom feeding *TROLL*.

  163. ixnei June 28, 2013 at 9:07 pm #

    And the sock puppetry gets thickerer (an occidental observation, sockie)????

    • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:43 am #

      Sockie sockie *SAKI* (where’s my *SHOT*)…

  164. Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:19 pm #

    I’ve probably never mentioned this before but I am a homosexual. I live in the Bay area and have a nice home. I do rent out some rooms in my quiet retirement to students whow ironically I would have been teaching a few years ago. One such student, I’ll call Ted, has a really nice “package” if you get my drift. He has blond hair and blue/green eyes. I was watching him wash his car the other day, soaping it (and himself!) down. I’m sure he didn’t know I was watching from inside my bedroom window. But lets just say I was glad to have the Intensive care lotion and some Kleenex handy, because things, you know, really got…out of hand. Rather, I took the matter into my own, all too capable, hands.

    I no longer feel like I need to make up stories about why I’m still single and can’t find a steady girlfriend. Most are just after me for my pension, which isn’t considerable. Renting the rooms out seems to help me make ends meat. Ted’s a nice boy and I’m not sure he would really go out to dinner with me some night but he might. Kyle on the other hand is a total slob. If I knew when I first rented the room to him that he would leave his sweaty, stinky socks and track marked underwear all over his floor I would have put my foot down and not rented to him. When he’s in class I go into his room and try to pick up after him. Sometimes I just close the door because I hate the idea of anyone seeing such a pigsty.

  165. Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:23 pm #

    This person is NOT me!

    E.

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  166. Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:35 pm #

    Cleaning up after messy boys who really should now how to piick up after themselves is what I would call a pain in the behind. I don’t have children and never wanted kids but here I am in my golden years picking up after them! Kids today are bery ungrateful and seem to think it’s the older generation’s job to be the maid/daddy/mommy substitute. If it weren’t for the rent, which incidentally comes from mommy or daddy, or both, I would throw them out on their ears!

    I clip coupons and cut corners, trying to take advantage of the weekly sales and stocking up when possible, but the refrigerator gets raided with increasing frequency, so I’m reduced to eating out or ordering take out! And this during the prime of my life! I swear I’m going to throw these bums out one of these days. There is no respect for the older generation.

  167. Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:43 pm #

    This person is not me!

    E

    • Ixnei June 29, 2013 at 2:17 am #

      “Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:43 pm #

      This person is not me!”

      SH! totally *HIJACKED* (unless it’s him *himself*)… Not worth *arguing* – payoff is *NEGATIVE*!!!

  168. Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:44 pm #

    I have no use for dirty boys who can’t even pick up their own laundry. Disgusting…just filthy!

    E.

    • asoka June 30, 2013 at 12:17 pm #

      Eleuthro, is this you?

  169. NSA June 28, 2013 at 10:17 pm #

    Here at the agency in Langley we are having a good TGIF chuckle….scrambling all the Kunstler site comments and IDs. We are really bored, having achieved full spectrum dominance over every aspect of your sorry lives……..

    • Ixnei June 29, 2013 at 1:05 am #

      “NSA June 28, 2013 at 10:17 pm #

      Here at the agency in Langley we are having a good TGIF chuckle….scrambling all the Kunstler site comments and IDs. We are really bored, having achieved full spectrum dominance over every aspect of your sorry lives……..”

      working *well*? or *HARDLY*.

  170. Carol Newquist June 28, 2013 at 10:33 pm #

    We are all Trayvon Martin. The courtroom drama has become a farce. It’s all a clown car brigade and a high tech lynching of a boy who suffered at the hands of a white racist.

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  171. Ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 10:36 pm #

    And for what it’s worthy of and not a bit of what not is telling to be shore on the uptick. Can’t say I’d necessarily find grounds for it but can tell it speaks volumes about the work that well needs doing!!! Bwahh!!!

    • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:38 am #

      “Ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 10:36 pm #

      And for what it’s worthy of and not a bit of what not is telling to be shore on the uptick. Can’t say I’d necessarily find grounds for it but can tell it speaks volumes about the work that well needs doing!!! Bwahh!!!”

      SOCK

      • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:40 am #

        Nice one *SOCKIE* – keep *KLEENING* up – douche.

  172. ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:35 am #

    Haha! U rewrote *HISTORY*!!! That’s sum F*k’d up SH! (scroll back and see *SOCKIE* in all his *GLORY*!!!)

  173. End of days June 29, 2013 at 12:40 am #

    Wishing for the best of best into matters relating to Trayvonne. Thinking it’s best to let matters settle into their own words.

  174. ix WHUZ cryin June 29, 2013 at 1:42 am #

    “ix having temper tantrum June 29, 2013 at 1:22 am #

    Please don’t go messing with the doulingflanks, for rthe are only there for the perspicacity of being needed during times of basically unsettled.”

    Good one, *SOCKIE*!!! (almost *legible* – too!)

    “goin down~!”:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2s7WMVMDjU

    (Johnson/Vai/Satriani)

  175. BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 3:35 am #

    Hey!

    There’s no time like Valium time.

    Nightey night.

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  176. stelmosfire June 29, 2013 at 7:12 am #

    here in Jolly ol’ New England the plants are growing like gangbusters. rain every other day and heat. ( and heat which I don’t like) being of alpine stock. but sheet I’ll be throwing food away again. I can’t even give the stuff away. It is easier for the serfs to use the SNAP card at the local store while they are picking’ up lottery tickets!!

  177. La Raza June 29, 2013 at 10:32 am #

    You gringos todos putos all you want is to marry otros putos so you no make babies and we take back our country making monton de babies. Haha. You gringos repugnante……

  178. rhino June 29, 2013 at 12:40 pm #

    I see that someone else is now posting under the name “rhino”. That’s fine, they can have it.

    This comment section was fun for a while but, as a bunch of us said not so long ago, it has turned to crap. JHK can manage this place as he sees fit. It’s his site after all.

    For my part I may post now and again in the future if the spirit moves me but not under the name “rhino”. Frankly, I’ve found a better site (that’s moderated) to have discussions with other people.

    A tip of the hat to JHK for many great weekly rants and to many good commenters that posted here.

    And a one finger salute to the asswipes that messed it all up.

    • asoka June 29, 2013 at 2:55 pm #

      Yes, ‘Carol’ ruined it for the rest of us.

      • Carol June 29, 2013 at 10:33 pm #

        Asoka fucked me too. 🙁

        • Carol June 30, 2013 at 6:38 pm #

          Grab ‘her’ name.
          I am not ‘carol’ but look!

    • Eleuthero July 1, 2013 at 1:15 am #

      I agree, Rhino. After a long absence and many short absences, now I see THIS PIECE OF SHIT. Someone posting under my name or close facsimiles to my name. Now, no reader knows if ANYONE’S post is real or done by a fraud.

      It makes the Asoka-dominated era look positively rational. I wish you good luck, Rhino as I, too, am outta here.

      E.

  179. fuck me June 29, 2013 at 10:32 pm #

    The following story has been pulled by the GUARDIAN, as the UK government went nuts, this article asserts that ALL EUROPEANS are spied on and their data is passed to the NSA, BY ALL EURO GOVERNMENTS.

    EURO governments were shocked by NSA story, now we find out that ALL EURO governments SHARE data.

    ***

    A former contractor to the US National Security Agency (NSA) has told the Privacy Surgeon that communications intelligence arrangements between the US and Europe are much more “complex, murky and far reaching” than the public has been led to believe.

    wayne-madsenWayne Madsen, formerly a lieutenant with the US Navy, first started working for the NSA in 1985, and over twelve years held a number of sensitive contract positions that exposed him to technical and operational aspects of the agency. He maintains a close relationship with the intelligence community.

    Madsen spoke to the Privacy Surgeon yesterday to express his concern about the “half story” being conveyed by EU politicians about the extent of NSA activities in the region.

    He was particularly concerned about the “sanctimonious outcry” of political leaders who were “feigning shock” about recently disclosed spying operations such as PRISM while staying silent about their own role in global interception arrangements with the United States.

    “I can’t understand how Angela Merkel can keep a straight face – demanding assurances from Obama and the UK – while Germany has entered into those exact relationships”

    “She’s acting like inspector Reynaud in Casablanca: ‘I’m shocked – shocked – to find gambling going on here’”

    I can’t understand how Angela Merkel can keep a straight face – demanding assurances from Obama and the UK – while Germany has entered into those exact relationships

    Unlike the UK – which has expressed a mixed response to its government’s involvement with US security – allegations of collusion with the NSA are likely to spark widespread anxiety and disbelief in Germany. However the writing was on the wall in the final report of a 2000 inquiry by the European Parliament that investigated global signals intelligence, recommendation 21 of which states: “Germany and the United Kingdom are called upon to make the authorisation of further communications interception operations by US intelligence services on their territory conditional on their compliance with the ECHR…”

    German political parties at the time of the EP inquiry had fiercely lobbied against claims that their country had colluded with the NSA, forcing a minority EP finding that bluntly stated: “The report by the Temporary Committee confirms the existence of the Echelon interception system which is administered by various countries, including the United Kingdom, a Member State of the European Union, with the cooperation of Germany.”

    The Finish communications minister has likewise denounced the NSA’s intelligence gathering, despite evidence that Finland routinely supplies signals intelligence data to the NSA through its own listening station outside Helsinki. Indeed across Europe political leaders have sought to reassure their citizens that the NSA’s activities are intolerable, while staying mute about their own involvement in those operations.

    Only the UK – historically the NSA’s closest operational ally – has defended the global system, arguing that the activity complies with all legal requirements. Madsen believes the US and the UK are almost inseparable in national security activities.

    Madsen asserted that the NSA has become more secretive and more powerful over the past few years – a view reinforced by former NSA and CIA director General Michael Hayden
    In view of the current practice of targeting the messenger instead of the message, I’ll get one matter out of the way before we go any further. Some of Madsen’s views have been – to put it mildly – controversial. His articles and books sometimes talk of clandestine arrangements at the highest levels of government. But those claims are old news – and are irrelevant to the question being addressed in this article.

    Madsen’s disclosures in the realm of SIGINT have however have been persistently correct – often expressed years before they were confirmed through official publication. Madsen warned of ECHELON long before that system was confirmed, just as he warned of widespread unchecked NSA activity years before the emergence of PRISM. He has also been at the forefront of disclosures about specific NSA pograms such as the media intelligence operation FIRSTFRUIT, which covertly monitors journalists.

    Madsen asserted that the NSA has become more secretive and more powerful over the past few years – a view reinforced by former NSA and CIA director General Michael Hayden during an interview with the Privacy Surgeon earlier this year:

    “The FISA act – the one we’re alleged to have walked all over – was amended in 2008, and the changes made to the FISA act in 2008 were far more dramatic – far more far-reaching – than anything President Bush authorised me to do under his article 2 commander-in-chief authorities,” said General Hayden.

    Madsen named seven EU countries that have been substantially engaged in communications intelligence gathering alongside the US. These are Britain, Denmark, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy. Those seven countries have formal second and third party status under the NSA’s signals intelligence agreements, and are contractually bound to the US.

    Under international intelligence agreements – most of which remain secret – nations are categorised according to their trust level. In the western world the US is defined as First Party while the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are Second Party (trusted relationships). All others are third party (less trusted) or fourth party (secret) relationships. http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ukusa.shtml

    Madsen named seven EU countries that have been substantially engaged in communications intelligence gathering alongside the US. These are Britain, Denmark, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy.

    Madsen warned that the public were being intentionally confused by the utterances of politicians. “Spain and Germany had the same deal as GCHQ and NSA at [the spy station] Bude, Cornwall with their Project TEMPORA, tapping the TAT14 cable between Denmark and Germany, Netherlands, France, UK and US.”

    He outlined the “significant extent” of signals intelligence operations in Europe, cautioning that the public needed to be made aware of the scale of these activities.

    “The Danes have an NSA listening post at Aflandshage, outside Copenhagen and the Finns provide 4th Party feed to NSA from the Santahamina facility outside Helsinki. The Swedish FRA also sends 4th Party SIGINT [signals intelligence] to NSA and has done so since the Cold War.”

    “Bundesnachrictendienst (BND) and Spanish CESID jointly operated an undersea cable tapping station at Conil called Operation Delikatesse. The station tapped the cables linking Spain to the Canaries, other Mediterranean nations, Africa, and BND turned over operation of the station to CESID in1992 but like all these arrangements, German intelligence personnel likely remained for support.”

    “NSA did the same with its Turkish SIGINT stations, turning over operation of Sinop on the Black Sea, for example, to Turkey’s MIT intelligence organization. The tapping facility, on ”Camino de los Militares” in Conil is near the Telefonica satellite ground station.”

    Some of this activity was mentioned during the 2000 EP inquiry, but the specific contractual relationships with the NSA were not made clear.

    The European Parliament’s inquiry was triggered by revelations that the NSA was conducting a global SIGINT operation known as ECHELON. Despite finding that the spying activity across Europe was vast and persistent, no further action was taken by the parliament.

    Governments have chosen to keep the public in the dark about it. They don’t understand that the days when they could get away with a conspiracy of silence are over.
    However Madsen’s reference to Turkey as a country that conducts SIGINT was not raised in the EP inquiry report. The possibility that Turkey has been covertly engaged in interception operations – possibly against European countries – could place additional pressure on Turkey’s already strained candidature to the EU.

    “A lot of this information isn’t secret, nor is it new” commented Madsen. “It’s just that governments have chosen to keep the public in the dark about it. They don’t understand that the days when they could get away with a conspiracy of silence are over.”

    Madsen’s criticism applies with particular relevance to the UK government, which for decades denied the existence of a web of SIGINT bases in Britain, instead describing them as “defence facilities” subject to full accountability.

    Madsen also expressed anger over the NSA’s hypocrisy over Edward Snowden.

    “Snowden is being roundly condemned by many who say he had no authority or right to provide the public with details of NSA snooping. But what right or authority did NSA director, General Keith Alexander, have to provide information on NSA surveillance at five meetings of the global Bilderberg Conference – two in Virginia and one meeting each in Greece, Spain and Switzerland?”

    “Alexander claims he is protecting the American people from a constantly changing number of terrorist attacks. In fact, he is providing information to elites on the methods NSA uses to spy on labor, student, religious and progressive organizations.”

    “When Alexander leaks to the elites, he’s thanked. When Snowden does it, he’s called a traitor and a coward.”

    While much of Madsen’s material is already known – particularly among intelligence observers – his commentary will be a sobering reminder to the intelligence agencies that there are thousands of contractors out there who are capable by degrees of exposing much of the entire SIGINT apparatus. The more the agencies obfuscate and personalise, the greater the likelihood that other contractors will come forward.

    “It’s time for the disinfectant of sunshine”, he added.

  180. asoka June 30, 2013 at 1:50 am #

    I hope Zimmerman walks. If he does indeed walk, how bad will the black unrest be?

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  181. asoka June 30, 2013 at 1:53 am #

    Trayvon.

  182. Eleuthero June 30, 2013 at 4:56 am #

    My account has been highjacked and the above ridiculous post was not made by me at all. The problem is that on this new message board, it’s possible for ten people to post as “Smith” with ten different email addresses.

    The entropy on the board has reached blog-death levels. It’s toast.

    The Real E.

    • Eleuthero July 1, 2013 at 1:12 am #

      BT … I didn’t write the post about Gerald Celente. The board is hosed because we now not only have about 20 trolls but someone posing as me.

      E.

  183. NSA June 30, 2013 at 10:45 am #

    We here at the agency in Langley have lots of free time, having achieved Full Spectrum Dominance over every aspect of your pathetic lives……so we scrambled the IDs, screen names, order of appearance of posters at this “peak oil” greenie site. Some here wanted to have some fun with the brokerage accounts of posters….but found most had no brokerage accounts and very little savings……….

  184. NSA June 30, 2013 at 1:57 pm #

    We here at the agency in Langley have shuffled the posters like a deck of cards….sowing confusion and dissonant counterintel to fill the virtual void…..this is just too easy…..now the posters are shuffling themselves…..

  185. ozone June 30, 2013 at 3:09 pm #

    For this week, I’ll leave this massive, stinking turd for ‘Soakie-Sock to either stick in his pipe and smoke, or cram it up his ass (whichever he’d prefer, I don’t really care). Perhaps he’d like to go to Camden and evangelize on the street to the Camdenites how everything is going just swell in the FUSA. I highly recommend that course of action…

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35449.htm

    The rest of us (non-gum’mint-folk) will see this tale for what it portends; and that would be the opposite of extending and pretending bullshit.

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  186. xport June 30, 2013 at 4:46 pm #

    This is pretty much the same old rant. I really like the latest Podcast, and the reality check on the fuel supply.
    So we are pretty much screwed. That depends on who the we , people or subs for the subs for the subs for the maybe people, who want to be close to the people who know a little about the real people, and those people would never associate with the other people anyway, so the winning people may never get next to the people who get the chips get cashed in. Who will be the new banker, and will the powers that be let go of the whip?

  187. BackRowHeckler June 30, 2013 at 7:03 pm #

    “Is the US facing an oil famine? Shall we be required to forego automobiling except to meet the stern necessities of war and of utilitarian traffic? Are our petroleum fields showing signs of exhaustion?”

    “The output of petroleum has not yet begun to diminish; statistics show it is still increasing; yet the downward trend of production from the present oil fields is plainly in sight”

    -from an article titled “Billions of Barrels of Oil Locked up in Rocks” National Geographic Magazine, February, 1918

  188. NSA June 30, 2013 at 7:44 pm #

    Boring weekend here at the agency in Langley so just for fun we shuffled your postings and IDs like a deck of cards……..

  189. xhalor June 30, 2013 at 11:40 pm #

    Doncha’ just love the way that humans can no longer be creepy, evil, or dangerous without CIA or US Government involvement?

    Ain’t that control?

    The patent lawsuits should be a hoot!

  190. fuck me July 1, 2013 at 3:08 am #

    The German Justice Minister, Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenburger, demanded an immediate explanation and said the behaviour of the intelligence services was “reminiscent of the actions against enemies during the Cold War”. “It defies belief that our friends in the US see the Europeans as their enemies,” she said.

    **

    Too fucking FUNNY,

    Ok, so the germans are pissed because they’re treated like the enemy, what is MOST funny is the USA public was long ago classified as the ‘enemy’ of the State,

    Frankly unless your COP, then your considered the enemy of the USA, such the demand for gun control,

    So in effect the germans are saying

    “How dare the US government treat us like lowly USA citizens”

    How dare 🙁

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  191. Laszlo Toth, Jr. July 1, 2013 at 3:40 am #

    “If the Fed were to reduce its purchases of this debt paper, nobody else would buy it. The reason the Fed buys the quantity it does in the first place ($85 billion-a-month) is that nobody else would touch it at the offered zero interest rates.”

    Well, aside from the fact that volume in US Treasurys is $190 billion *a day*, and thus over $4100 billion a month. Which means the $85 billion monthly you mention is 2% of the total volume. It’s trivial. It’s about as small a gesture as the Fed can get away with and say they’re doing something.

    But, hey, I suppose 98% of the market might be “nobody else” — for very broad values of “nobody else.”

    • ZrCrypDiK July 1, 2013 at 6:56 am #

      “Laszlo Toth, Jr.
      July 1, 2013 at 3:40 am #

      Well, aside from the fact that volume in US Treasurys is $190 billion *a day*, and thus over $4100 billion a month. ”

      So are you saying we are $1.4 quadrillion in debt ($2.8 quadrillion?), or merely $700 *trillion* (CDO’s/CDS’s [collateralized debt obligations/credit default swaps])?!?

      (Here’s ‘hoping’ [ahaha hope and *change*] JHK gotz dah *FIX* for the manglers *next week*)

      • Laszlo Toth, Jr. July 1, 2013 at 5:22 pm #

        No, I’m saying that Treasurys are a commodity just like any other, and change hands frequently. Further, there are plenty of people around the world (though mostly in the US) willing to buy them.

        Total debt held by the public — which is what T-bills are — is ~$12 trillion. Of that, $.19 trillion — which is the same thing as $190 billion — changes hands every day.

        So with $4.1 trillion trading every month, that means in principle about a third of the debt is held by someone different at the end of each month than at the beginning… except, of course, the same bond could change hands many times, so the proportional turnover is probably smaller than that.

  192. Patrizia B. July 1, 2013 at 7:32 am #

    US empire is based on its military supremacy.
    It doesn´t have allies, it has servants.
    When its economy cannot sustain its military expenses, the only way is rigging the markets trying to steal as much money as possible.
    The only question is: how long?
    Because it is clear that it will end.

    The only answer to the economical global crisis is to go back to local.
    The power of China (and of Japan before) was based on producing cheap goods and selling them to the WEST.
    The “growth” was based on exports, the bigger the volume of exports the bigger the growth.
    But the moment there is no nation which imports your goods you have no growth.
    The solution is going back to self sustaining economies, the nation produces and consumes what it produces.
    The cost of goods is proportional to the income of the people who produce.
    No more cheap goods, less production, better quality, more durable stuff, less raw materials consumed, but a sustainable economy.
    Of course this is something the big corporations, the big banks do not like. But it is the only possible way.
    Sometimes to go forward you have to go back.

  193. CyberPass July 13, 2013 at 12:55 pm #

    “[Young people]also, consider repudiating your college debt en masse, since the fantasy of repayment is but another mental shackle holding you back from your future.”
    Hopefully, they are not so young they still engage in magical thinking: their debts, thanks to Congress, are not, like everyone else’s, dischargeable by bankruptcy. And as if staggering under the greatest class of debt in society were not enough, for many, their student loan rates just doubled to a level a mere 50 times greater than that paid by the same banks to savers. Those repudiating their debts are looking at a frightening, if not terrifying future: imprisonment at subminimum wage in FEMA-camp-factories. It won’t be called slavery, or even indentured servitude. Perhaps JHK can sponsor a contest for the best slogan describing it.

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