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Mid Year Digest

by James Howard Kunstler

     Wondering why the money world got its knickers in a twist last week? The answer is simple: the global economy is breaking apart and its constituent major players are doing face-plants on the downhill slope of a no-longer-cheap-oil way of life.  Let’s look at them case by case.

     The USA slogs deeper into paralysis and decay in a collective mental fog of disbelief that its own exceptionalism can’t overcome the laws of thermodynamics. This general malaise precipitates into a range of specific quandaries. The so-called economy depends on financialization, since it is no longer based on manufacturing things of value. The financialization depends on housing, that is, a particular kind of housing: suburban sprawl housing (and its commercial accessories, the strip malls, the box stores, the burger shacks, etc.). Gasoline is now too expensive to run the suburban living arrangement. It will remain marginally unaffordable. Even if the price of oil goes down, it will be because citizens of the USA will not have enough money to buy it. Lesson: the suburban project is over, along with the economy it drove in on.

     But so is the mega-city project, the giant metroplex of skyscrapers. So, don’t suppose that we can transform the production house-building industry into an apartment-building industry. The end of cheap oil also means we can’t run cities at the 20th century scale. That includes the scale of the buildings as well as the aggregate scale of the whole urban organism. Nobody gets this. For one thing, there will be far fewer jobs in anything connected to financialization because that “industry” is imploding. The recent action around the Federal Reserve illustrates this. When chairman Bernanke’s lips quivered last week, the financial markets had a grand mal seizure. He floated the notion that his organization might “taper” their purchases of US government issued debt and mortgage-backed securities — the latter being mostly bundled debt originated by government-sponsored entities and agencies. That’s the “money” that supports the suburban sprawl industry.

     If the Fed were to reduce its purchases of this debt paper, nobody else would buy it. The reason the Fed buys the quantity it does in the first place ($85 billion-a-month) is that nobody else would touch it at the offered zero interest rates. The US Treasury and the mortgage bundlers could only sell the stuff if they paid higher interest rates. But the US government would choke to death on higher interest rates because its aggregate debt is so huge and the scheduled interest payments so gigantic that a one percent increase would destroy even the fantasy of economic equilibrium.

     Apart from that unhappy equation, entropy never sleeps. Everything in America except the Apple stores and a handful of big banks is falling apart — especially the human habitat and households. Suburbia will only lose value and utility. Big cities will have to get smaller (ouch!). Tar sands, shale oil and shale gas will not ride to the rescue (they cost too much to get out of the ground). The entire declension of government from federal to state to local will be too broke to fix the roads and make “transfer payments” to idle, indigent citizens. This populace will lose faith in their institutions… and disorder will eventually resolve in a new and very different disposition of things on-the-ground. If we’re lucky, this will not include cruel despotic leadership and war.

     If the “taper” talk is empty rhetoric, and the Fed continues sopping up issued debt, it will eventually destroy the credibility of its issued money. That is just another way of going broke, though it might beat a shorter path to the general loss of legitimacy of governments and other institutions.

     Young people, harken: prepare for careers in agriculture and activities that support it. Consider moving to small towns in parts of the country where farming is possible and get ready to rebuild a very different economy.  Also, consider repudiating your college debt en masse, since the fantasy of repayment is but another mental shackle holding you back from your future.

     As for the other parts of the global economy, a digest:

     Europe doesn’t have enough oil and gas to run itself. Its suppliers (Russia, various Islamic states) are all basically hostile to it. As the late, great Tony Soprano might say, “end of story.” Europe has been playing financial pocket pool with itself for five years with credibility ebbing. Soon Europe will descend into painful economic re-set. Its era as the go-to theme park of advanced civilization is ending. Go there while it’s still possible and take some snapshots of what comfort and artistry used to look like.

     China is imploding under the weight of its half-assed crony command economy and banking system. Nice try. Cookie fortune says, “Industrial era entered too late in game.” All else there is desperation: e.g. the idea of moving hundreds of millions of peasants into new cities. As Tony would say, “Fuggeddabowdit.” They’re better off growing bok choy en situ. Anyway, no one should assume that China can remain politically stable. Let’s hope that its economic and political crack-up doesn’t transmute into war.

    Russia’s oil production is in permanent decline. It has a lot, but it gets most of its income from selling it to other people. Hence, Vlad Putin’s notion of finding something else to base Russia’s economy on. Like…what? I don’t think they’re going to replace China in making salad shooters. Farming would be the way to go, and Vlad’s government is hoping that global warming improves Russia’s prospects for doing more of that. In any case, Russia might benefit in the long term by not selling off all of its oil and gas — though Western Europe would surely suffer from that decision. On the plus side, Russia’s government is not crippled by idiot squabbles over abortion, gay marriage, and the Bible in schools.

     Japan. Sorry to repeat myself. Going medieval. They have no oil and gas. (Cue Tony Soprano again.) In the event, Japan’s financial hara-kiri will drag down the rest of the world’s banking system — or at least hasten the damage already self-inflicted elsewhere around the globe. I’m also informed that much of the essential computer chip fabrication in the world still happens in Japan, and that will go away, too, as the Japanese engine seizes, smokes, and expels its final belch of CO2.

     What else is there? South America? Think: spreading jungle (or desert, take your pick). Canada? There’s an idea. Maybe Labrador becomes the new Hamptons? Second biggest national land mass… 30 million people (2 percent of China’s population). Only one drawback: the view to the south. 

About James Howard Kunstler

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James Howard Kunstler is the author of many books including (non-fiction) The Geography of Nowhere, The City in Mind: Notes on the Urban Condition, Home from Nowhere, The Long Emergency, and Too Much Magic: Wishful Thinking, Technology and the Fate of the Nation. His novels include World Made By Hand, The Witch of Hebron, Maggie Darling — A Modern Romance, The Halloween Ball, an Embarrassment of Riches, and many others. He has published three novellas with Water Street Press: Manhattan Gothic, A Christmas Orphan, and The Flight of Mehetabel.

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  1. Yo' Mama's Banana Pudding June 28, 2013 at 12:47 pm #

    Every breath you take, I’ll be watching you.

    There’s a little black spot on Paula Deen’s sun today
    It’s not the fact that her son Bobby is gay
    It’s her soiled soul up there

  2. Paula Deen's Hollis June 28, 2013 at 12:58 pm #

    Eleuthero has shuffled the comments deck so now your comment could be anywhere. The question therefore is, how random is the sample. Bartender, a triple helping of my famous Bacon-Burger Cheesecake for everyone. It’s my great granpappy’s recipe before he shot himself after losing his slaves. Hollis is my de facto slave. He’ll do just about anything I ask for a few measly dollars and some of great granpappy’s famous Bacon-Burger Cheesecake. Sometimes, Hollis and I share the same insulin pump. Don’t tell my friends. They’d hang Hollis of they found out. I hope the comments work themselves out. I feel like I’m amongst friends here. I hope shorty’s not taken. He seems like a cutie-pie. I could just eat him up, and I love that name.

  3. Kdog June 28, 2013 at 3:34 pm #

    Asoka is coming to town?
    I think its DoD attempting to disrupt JHKs site.

    • ozone June 28, 2013 at 4:03 pm #

      Ya THINK?? :D
      What I want to know is, who ASSIGNED these assholes to provide the unending pestilence here?
      I believe that will be the last gasp of the intrusive part of the internet miracle: the hunting. (See, they don’t think there’s a 2-way street that can ever be accessed here. Anything that can be built can be deconstructed.)

  4. ozone June 28, 2013 at 6:25 pm #

    To those fatally infected with the hubris19.84 virus:

    What I want to know is, who ASSIGNED these assholes to provide the unending pestilence here?
    I believe that will be the last gasp of the intrusive part of the internet miracle: the hunting. (See, they don’t think there’s a 2-way street that can ever be accessed here. Anything that can be built can be deconstructed.)

    Good night and…………….good luck.

  5. ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 6:44 pm #

    “There ain’t no good in our goodbyin’,
    True love takes a lot of tryin’,
    Oh, I’m …”

    ([WAVE] to the *SAME-OLD* sockie with 10-15+++ aliases (often hijacked?), spam-replying to *himself* so that any intellectual discussion bumps to “prior” comments page. Oh, “reply to reply” limit bug fix apparently made it *worse*? Le’s all go medieval, liek the Nips, and toast to some SAKI!!!)

  6. ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 6:46 pm #

    “There ain’t no good in our goodbyin’,
    True love takes a lot of tryin’,
    Oh, I’m …”

    ([WAVE] to the *SAME-OLD* sockie with 10-15+++ aliases (often hijacked?), spam-replying to *himself* so that any intellectual discussion bumps to “prior” comments page. Oh, “reply to reply” limit bug fix apparently made it *worse*? Let’s all go medieval, liek the Nips, and toast to some SAKI!!!)

  7. ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 6:53 pm #

    How can you have your pudding? Bligh! And what it is it’s not…

    Is it the basic premise now sockie and ++++asorted aliases that *to no one other* being it something that moreover should become troublesome?

  8. KUNSTLER FUCK June 28, 2013 at 7:06 pm #

    “Safe Houses for PUSSY”

    The CIA has gone ‘domestic’, the FBI/IRS have gone global, and the NSA collects data for CONGRESS/EXECUTIVE…

    What a fucking KUNSLTER FUCK

    ***

    operation hangout, is all over the country, the CIA kidnaps young women, and offers ‘sex houses’ for cop’s. ( CASTRO ARIEL OHIO ), real shit, ( Ariel CASTRO was CIA, so says his mother ).

    CIA & NSA are fighting, … the CIA has been left out to the cold on much of NSA’s data, DHS of course has even MORE domestic data than NHS,

    FBI/IRS have more offices outside the USA than IN, go figure

    THE NSA has gone domestic,and the IRS has gone global,

    At the end of the day all INTEL is largely to be fed to the IRS in search of COIN.

    CIA will become nothing more than PIMPS, not unlike the JAP’S during WWII that had sex houses they could go to get their rocks off by fucking kidnapped chinese women.

  9. KUNSTLER FUCK June 28, 2013 at 7:19 pm #

    Ariel Castro (CIA) – OHIO – Abu Graib (Naked Women in dog leashes on all fours ) – OBAMA ( Every USA citizen on all fours )

    Sex Slave Nation

    CIA babysitter, and NSA finder, …

    The assignment was handed to me by the DCI Gates, the DCI for Bush, Sr. as President. He wanted me to go to Bakersfield, California, about a 3 hour drive from where I lived and train a gang of kids how to kill.
    To be specific, Gates at a meeting told a group of us, senior CIA people, about the new initiative — the plan to phase out the “down-line” kids after 2 years instead of cutting them loose. He explained that this was necessary because the kids were too unruly and uppity after two years to obey the CIA officer.
    However, cutting them loose meant that a good 20% of them ended up working for the opposition or for themselves. They thus became competition and cut into the Cabal’s profits. I pointed out that the 2-year limit was arbitrary and it was unfair to waste the kids. In fact, about 40% continued to be good producers and obedient. So even if one ascribed to the idea that the unruly should be killed, which I did not, this 2-year policy was blatantly unjust. And the 60% were unruly criminals only because the CIA had made them that way starting from kids they had selected as well-behaved and intelligent.
    But Gates refused to change the policy, which was set by the Cabal on the recommendation of an independent think tank on how to maximize Cabal profits. So even though 3 times in this meeting of about 15 people, I object to this program for various moral reasons I got nowhere.
    I recommended that the CIA at least study how to assess these kids as to which were worth retaining with an eye to their moving up into the CIA later. It was a stalling maneuver on my part to try to delay the execution order. Gates would not consider it. He was going to obey this execution order without delay. The kids were to do the executions of each other.
    It reminded me of the purge when I was 9, when only 3 of over a thousand of us survived the purge. I wanted to cry. I stared out the window of the 7th floor at the tops of the trees in the distance while Gates kept on talking. He complained that I was ignoring him. I wasn’t ignoring him. I was thinking about what it would take for me to throw him through the glass pane to his death.

    After I figured out how I could do it, I thought about whether it would actually stop the kids from being executed by the Cabal. When, sadly, I saw by looking at the future that it would not, I gave up the plan.
    At that moment, Gates turned to me and told me that I was to be one of his bodyguards that night. That was not an unusual assignment — I often did some bodyguard work for DCIs at night — usually while in their beds. Fortunately, Gates was not requiring me to do it from his bed. He just wanted me with him that night so he could get me to play a Russian Chess master. I mention that because as I was in the middle of playing Gufeld (sp) and winning, it occurred to me that if I could beat a competent chess master using my remote viewing skills I should be able to figure out how to outwit Gates and prevent the execution order from going forward the next week.
    The next day, instead of throwing Gates out of a window of the 7th floor, I threw his chess set out the window. I was accused of littering. I used the opportunity to get out of the rest of the meeting, the second part on implementing the execution order.
    As I picked up the chess pieces, I was crying and imaging them to be those children. I put them in the box and then feeling rather irrationally that I had just accidentally put them in prison, I took them out and lined them up on the sidewalk as if to start a chess game. A high-ranking analyst, the equivalent of the number 2 man in the dept. happened by and we started playing a game of chess on the sidewalk.
    Part way through as he was losing he said, “You seem upset. This isn’t like you. Is there anything I can do to help?”
    I burst into tears and then explained the execution order. He listened patiently and then he said, “Oh, I think that I could hold that up for at least a good 6 months.” He was as good as his word. He managed to initiate “crucial” studies of the cost-benefit ratio of the plan.
    Unfortunately, even his own analysts concluded that it was more cost effective to kill them all after 2 years than to have the case officers assess them as to which should not be terminated. The logic of that went something like, “If the officers have to decide which to save, they will want to save their favorites. And having decided to save the kids that they personally are screwing in their beds, they will be tempted to save some others as well. Since any one of them talking could destroy the revenue stream of the Agency, they none should be excluded from this necessary measure.” That appalled me.

    The only reason that the CIA could think of for saving a person was to go on screwing them in bed. I thought about that relative to my own position in the CIA. As useful as my remote viewing skills were, it was true that I, as a slave, probably would not have survived had I not regularly been in the beds of the DCIs.
    I did go to Bakersfield and meet with the gang of largely 13 year olds. I did not teach them how to kill well. I taught them how to die well. I was quite honest with them. I explained to them that the CIA wanted them dead after two years on the job and intended to get them to kill their buddies.
    There was only one gang in Bakersfield to speak of and I had been sent to that city because the CIA was not sure how to get a single gang to kill itself. They assumed that I would figure out how to split it in two in a divide and conquer strategy.
    When I finished explaining this to these normally loud and restless youths, the recreation hall was dead silent. One of them asked me what I recommended they do.
    They could see for themselves that it was easy to split them into warring fractions and get them to fight other. I told them that I recommended that they learn to die protecting each other.
    “Against the whole CIA?” one girl asked anxiously.
    “Why not?” I asked. “It doesn’t matter how many people you have gunning for you if you can have the satisfaction of dying to protect a friend.”
    They understood that. These teenagers that had been running drugs and pimping for the CIA, understood that they could get personal satisfaction from helping a friend.
    So I taught them how to die for each other. How to put their bodies in front of another while others aimed a gun at them or swung two by fours at them.
    We practiced it a couple of hours together. That was all the time I had with them.

    The execution order came down about 8 months later. The CIA sent in another person into Bakersfield to divide and conquer them. He tried and then wrote a report saying that he didn’t know what I had done, but the kids had such solidarity with each other that nothing he did to divide them worked.
    None of those kids died. The CIA could not get them to kill each other and by the grace of God, the police refused to arrest them. I heard later that as a group they voted to go straight and stop pimping for the CIA.
    No doubt the CIA recruited other kids through mind control measures. It was only a small victory against evil but it was a victory none-the-less.
    I managed to report this intervention on my part as an important research study on non-violent resistance and since the CIA had some interest in learning about the methods that could be used against them, they accepted that explanation. It was because of good skills that I managed to survive.
    Not long after the execution order went into effect, there was backlash against it from the case officers in the field. Some quit.
    Some refused to carry it out and some simply carried it out so ineffectively that is was like not carrying it out at all. In some cases warring gangs figured out what was going on and created truces to stop it.
    But mostly, the gangs fought each other and children in the US died like they did in third world countries of the US policies of men who care for Profits, Not People (see Chomsky’s book of that title.) Children died alone of gunshot wounds in back alleys afraid to go to the hospital for fear of arrest, or worse — the torture they had suffered at the hands of the mind controllers.
    Children got pregnant and had babies while they themselves were 11, 12, and 13 because the CIA had in effect forced their brothers to prostitute them to stay alive. And a whole safety of culture, of believing that a child could walk to the corner store safely, died under the CIA’s villainy.
    Corrupt politicians and agencies led to violence on the street and disruption of family life. American went from a society where one could leave one’s house unlock to one in which it was not safe to let your children out of one’s sight. And it happened in a single generation from the start of the CIA in 1947 until now.
    Cry, my beloved country, for what has been done to you in the name of national security.
    Cry, for the innocent children who were tortured and forced into crimes against their will and their sanity.
    Cry for the children stolen off the street and sold as sex slaves and human sacrifices.
    Have men no souls anymore that they rape, torture and corrupt the children that instead they are sworn to protect?

    A PARTIAL HISTORY OF MY EDUCATION IN THE SEX-SLAVE BUSINESS AT THE CIA

    I haven’t yet explained how I know all this about how the CIA handles its sex slave trade except to say that I was a sex slave myself at high level within the CIA.
    But my specific knowledge of it came about because of assignments I was given at the CIA.
    The first assignment that I had relative to this area was when I was still a teenager myself. Shortly after my sixteenth birthday I ran away from home and went to live with a neighbor. Helms was furious at me – mainly because I hadn’t told him that I was going to do it and for two days the CIA went wild looking for me. They were afraid that I had been picked up by the KGB.
    Helms gave me the assignment to investigate what happened to children that ran away from home and have in on his desk in one week. It didn’t give me much time.
    I investigated the issue in a variety of ways, from using the CIA’s library to remote viewing as that was my specialty inside the CIA and my reason d’etre in that location.
    First off, I found that it was not running away that was the problem, it was the sharks in the water that tried to take advantage of one later. Since the major shark in the water was the CIA and I had already been mauled by that one, running away did little to increase my risk.
    I said so in my report to Helms, saying, perhaps somewhat inadvisably given my enslaved condition that “since the CIA is the major reason why runaways end up in sexual slavery, my primary fault is that I did not run away from the CIA instead of running away merely from my abusive step-father.”
    In point of fact, I called the CIA on Monday after running away on Sunday, but my supervisor was out sick and my phone message did not get to Helms.
    My report was four pages long and Helms, not being satisfied that I was sufficiently repentent, assigned me to write 100 pages on the subject in a month, over the Christmas holidays.
    Meanwhile I went into Czechoslavia to find resistance fighters freezing in the forests as partisans after the fall of the Plague Spring and lead them into Hungaria. There were not many remote viewers at the time who could find people and breaks in the East-West border. So here I was trying to lead East Blockers to safety while viewing the enslavement of US children by the CIA in every spare moment of my time.
    Talk about why I was a multiple! It was really hard to square the reality of what happened to run-away children in the US with the rhetoric that the US was a free and democratic country.
    It was particularly poignant for me because I was leading these Czech resistance fighters to supposed freedom while taking them straight to the CIA which had sexually and brutally regularly tortured me since I was three. If they had known that, they never would have come with me.
    When I got back to the CIA with the over 200 East Bloc Resistance Fighters that I had rescued, Helms was overjoyed with my performance. I asked to be excused from writing the report but he refused.
    So I spent the next two days, typing furiously onto paper whatever came into my mind, pretty much like now. Out poured a history of American runaway children and their abuse at the hands of scoundrels and the CIA as soon as it was formed.
    Helms read it and cried, so his wife told me. But he didn’t change the CIA’s policies. Once near his death, I visited him and asked him why. He said to me, about two weeks before he died in a moment of uncharacteristic honesty, “I was afraid of what the perverts would do to me if I got in the way of their orgastic celebrations.”

    They were killing children in rituals. They still are. And the heads of the CIA are all cowards that prefer to allow American children be raped and tortured under them then be honorable men and protect them. They do not even lift a pen to abolish the CIA’s own torture of American children.
    Gates, the DCI under Bush, Sr. once said to me, “Someone will torture children so why shouldn’t we make a profit at it?”
    One could equally well say, someone will murder so we should sell weapons to make a profit from it. We already know that that is precisely what the CIA does. It doesn’t make it moral.
    The next time I was assigned to investigate the CIA’s sex slave business was when I was about 24 in about 1977. The war in Nam was over. Helms was gone. Colby was gone. But Bush Sr. was not. He was DCI. He asked me to plug up a leak in the sex slave revenues in the South.
    There was a CIA run brothel in New Orleans. It was losing money. No one could figue out how it could be doing that — it was doing a rip roaring business. Bush asked me to view it and figure out what was wrong.
    He handed me a report on the number of prostitutes and their wages per hour and also on the auctioning of sex slaves and how much they sold for on the block. It included the cost of wherehousing them and transporting them. It was all laid out in black and white. There was only one problem – the figures did not make sense. The housing and food costs were much too high for the number of slaves, etc.
    It turned out that the CIA official running that “safe house” was grossly under reporting the number of sex slaves sold on the block in order to pocket the money. He was on the average reporting only about one in four sex slaves that came through his hands. It turned out to be a chronic problem at the CIA.
    Men acting illegally for the CIA, often acted illegally for themselves as well. The CIA would set a goal of “laundering” a certain number of run-aways and “surplus” children into cash, and end up enslaving four times that number in order to accomplish that goal.

    The goal was sometimes stated by Gates and Bush, Sr. as a population control measure in which as long as the population of Hispanics or blacks was increasing meant that the goal was not being acheived. It was not clear to me that having sex with slaves was a realistic population control measure.
    I guess if one intended to kill the person as part of having sex with them then it could be seen as a population control measure.
    That is the standard Reverse Christian ritual.
    As a result of the report I wrote up for the CIA on that Safe House brothel, the director of it was replaced. I had hoped that the whole operation would be shut down.
    The next year I received a very embarassing award as the person at the CIA who had most improved efficiency at a CIA station. I had never even been to that New Orleans station, and it was in the US which officially made it illegal. I fought back tears as I accepted the award.
    It was a cruel joke, since I myself was a sex slave of Bush, Sr. People said that I had increased the number of CIA sex slaves in New Orleans by fourfold. That was not true. I instituted a administrative bookkeeping control mechanism by which all the sex slaves were put on the books.
    After that I had a reputation as someone who could make CIA stations shape up. It was a dubious distinction at best. Still under the Bush CIA Directorateship, I was asked, this time by the Dep. Director of Ops, to look at another CIA station that was losing money unreasonably. This one was in Guatemala.
    Much money was flowing into it from the CIA, and in spite of a boom Central American drug trade in which the CIA was the major overseer, this station was piling up debts. The cause of that quickly became apparent to me as I viewed the situation from the office of the DDO.
    The Head of the Guatamalean station’s right hand man was stealing cash by the bushel fulls. He was a Guatemalan general who was as cruel as he was crafty and the station head was too afraid of him to call him on his misdeed. Firing him did not work — he stayed without pay and continued stealing.
    In frustration, the DCI, Bush ordered him “neutralized.” The Guatemalan General learned of the hit order and shot the head of station instead. He was not killed but badly injured and had to be hospitalized. It was at this point that I was called into this mess to try to make the station work again – to try to make it financially successful.
    I decided that the way to do that was to harness the energy of the general for good. People at the CIA thought I was crazy. But since my plan was easy to implement and cost almost nothing by intelligence world standards it was put in place.
    The plan called for replacing the general’s mistress with another woman to be a good influence on him. It was almost an oxymoron to find a prostitute who would be a good influence on him, except that I had seen that he had already had one mistress that had been a good influence on him. I had the CIA pay her to get back together with him. It was a goodly sum of money, in the range of $100,000, whereas before she had been sleeping with him for about 200 a night as a high class call girl.
    Everyone was happy and the wounded head of station resumed his post and the situation worked and the station went back to making money.
    The next awards ceremony I received a similarly embarassing award. This time the award was for paying the most for a call girl. I had never met the woman. I merely had the ability to see what was wrong at a distance and recommend how to fix it.
    People said what I did bordered on the miraculous. It more clearly bordered on the immoral.
    I only mention this episode because as I viewed the problems of the station I saw how many sex workers they used and a great deal about the sex slave trade in an individual overseas CIA station.
    __________________

  10. ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 8:47 pm #

    Sentenel focusing on the real go, which is two consistent hear!!! Focusing on non essential mattering for not much else but the ship. Thinking the smell is not much more than a reasonable stench??? Bwahh!!! Couldn’t quite give the get in the manner from what not listing!!! Not likely as near as can be told!!!

    • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:41 am #

      sockie *OUT OF CONTROL*!!!



  11. ixnei June 28, 2013 at 8:57 pm #

    Fanable prose in churning with what it’s worth and maybe not scene??? Can’t say it’s not the aggegate scheduled as was listed when no equilibrium was mast forwarded!!! Unnecessary when waited in no vast term for the unititated as well as the catatonic states of being!!! At least a measured response hasn’t been deliberated!!! Bwahh!!!

    • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:42 am #

      Nice try *SOCKIE* – U batsh!t *CRA-Z*!!! HAHAHA!!!

  12. ix drunk crying wanting mama June 28, 2013 at 9:04 pm #

    It’s another pattern of sophistry nattering about something unrelenting but otherwise all too present. Clause may be something wanting the betterment of detail and not getting around to the crux of matter. Sentinels quiet now and not allowing centrist, over arching degrees of careful pruning!!! Is that what the ***sockies***would be wanting on this or any other dais??? Not what is generally considered knowing or being of probable weighted matter???

    • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:42 am #

      Weaksauce – but *EXPECTED* – you bottom feeding *TROLL*.

  13. ixnei June 28, 2013 at 9:07 pm #

    And the sock puppetry gets thickerer (an occidental observation, sockie)????

    • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:43 am #

      Sockie sockie *SAKI* (where’s my *SHOT*)…

  14. Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:19 pm #

    I’ve probably never mentioned this before but I am a homosexual. I live in the Bay area and have a nice home. I do rent out some rooms in my quiet retirement to students whow ironically I would have been teaching a few years ago. One such student, I’ll call Ted, has a really nice “package” if you get my drift. He has blond hair and blue/green eyes. I was watching him wash his car the other day, soaping it (and himself!) down. I’m sure he didn’t know I was watching from inside my bedroom window. But lets just say I was glad to have the Intensive care lotion and some Kleenex handy, because things, you know, really got…out of hand. Rather, I took the matter into my own, all too capable, hands.

    I no longer feel like I need to make up stories about why I’m still single and can’t find a steady girlfriend. Most are just after me for my pension, which isn’t considerable. Renting the rooms out seems to help me make ends meat. Ted’s a nice boy and I’m not sure he would really go out to dinner with me some night but he might. Kyle on the other hand is a total slob. If I knew when I first rented the room to him that he would leave his sweaty, stinky socks and track marked underwear all over his floor I would have put my foot down and not rented to him. When he’s in class I go into his room and try to pick up after him. Sometimes I just close the door because I hate the idea of anyone seeing such a pigsty.

  15. Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:23 pm #

    This person is NOT me!

    E.

  16. Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:35 pm #

    Cleaning up after messy boys who really should now how to piick up after themselves is what I would call a pain in the behind. I don’t have children and never wanted kids but here I am in my golden years picking up after them! Kids today are bery ungrateful and seem to think it’s the older generation’s job to be the maid/daddy/mommy substitute. If it weren’t for the rent, which incidentally comes from mommy or daddy, or both, I would throw them out on their ears!

    I clip coupons and cut corners, trying to take advantage of the weekly sales and stocking up when possible, but the refrigerator gets raided with increasing frequency, so I’m reduced to eating out or ordering take out! And this during the prime of my life! I swear I’m going to throw these bums out one of these days. There is no respect for the older generation.

  17. Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:43 pm #

    This person is not me!

    E

    • Ixnei June 29, 2013 at 2:17 am #

      “Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:43 pm #

      This person is not me!”

      SH! totally *HIJACKED* (unless it’s him *himself*)… Not worth *arguing* – payoff is *NEGATIVE*!!!

  18. Eleuthrero June 28, 2013 at 9:44 pm #

    I have no use for dirty boys who can’t even pick up their own laundry. Disgusting…just filthy!

    E.

  19. NSA June 28, 2013 at 10:17 pm #

    Here at the agency in Langley we are having a good TGIF chuckle….scrambling all the Kunstler site comments and IDs. We are really bored, having achieved full spectrum dominance over every aspect of your sorry lives……..

    • Ixnei June 29, 2013 at 1:05 am #

      “NSA June 28, 2013 at 10:17 pm #

      Here at the agency in Langley we are having a good TGIF chuckle….scrambling all the Kunstler site comments and IDs. We are really bored, having achieved full spectrum dominance over every aspect of your sorry lives……..”

      working *well*? or *HARDLY*.

  20. Carol Newquist June 28, 2013 at 10:33 pm #

    We are all Trayvon Martin. The courtroom drama has become a farce. It’s all a clown car brigade and a high tech lynching of a boy who suffered at the hands of a white racist.

  21. Ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 10:36 pm #

    And for what it’s worthy of and not a bit of what not is telling to be shore on the uptick. Can’t say I’d necessarily find grounds for it but can tell it speaks volumes about the work that well needs doing!!! Bwahh!!!

    • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:38 am #

      “Ix cryin June 28, 2013 at 10:36 pm #

      And for what it’s worthy of and not a bit of what not is telling to be shore on the uptick. Can’t say I’d necessarily find grounds for it but can tell it speaks volumes about the work that well needs doing!!! Bwahh!!!”

      SOCK

      • ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:40 am #

        Nice one *SOCKIE* – keep *KLEENING* up – douche.

  22. ix cryin June 29, 2013 at 12:35 am #

    Haha! U rewrote *HISTORY*!!! That’s sum F*k’d up SH! (scroll back and see *SOCKIE* in all his *GLORY*!!!)

  23. End of days June 29, 2013 at 12:40 am #

    Wishing for the best of best into matters relating to Trayvonne. Thinking it’s best to let matters settle into their own words.

  24. ix WHUZ cryin June 29, 2013 at 1:42 am #

    “ix having temper tantrum June 29, 2013 at 1:22 am #

    Please don’t go messing with the doulingflanks, for rthe are only there for the perspicacity of being needed during times of basically unsettled.”

    Good one, *SOCKIE*!!! (almost *legible* – too!)

    “goin down~!”:



    (Johnson/Vai/Satriani)

  25. BleatToTheBeat June 29, 2013 at 3:35 am #

    Hey!

    There’s no time like Valium time.

    Nightey night.

  26. stelmosfire June 29, 2013 at 7:12 am #

    here in Jolly ol’ New England the plants are growing like gangbusters. rain every other day and heat. ( and heat which I don’t like) being of alpine stock. but sheet I’ll be throwing food away again. I can’t even give the stuff away. It is easier for the serfs to use the SNAP card at the local store while they are picking’ up lottery tickets!!

  27. La Raza June 29, 2013 at 10:32 am #

    You gringos todos putos all you want is to marry otros putos so you no make babies and we take back our country making monton de babies. Haha. You gringos repugnante……

  28. rhino June 29, 2013 at 12:40 pm #

    I see that someone else is now posting under the name “rhino”. That’s fine, they can have it.

    This comment section was fun for a while but, as a bunch of us said not so long ago, it has turned to crap. JHK can manage this place as he sees fit. It’s his site after all.

    For my part I may post now and again in the future if the spirit moves me but not under the name “rhino”. Frankly, I’ve found a better site (that’s moderated) to have discussions with other people.

    A tip of the hat to JHK for many great weekly rants and to many good commenters that posted here.

    And a one finger salute to the asswipes that messed it all up.

    • asoka June 29, 2013 at 2:55 pm #

      Yes, ‘Carol’ ruined it for the rest of us.

    • Eleuthero July 1, 2013 at 1:15 am #

      I agree, Rhino. After a long absence and many short absences, now I see THIS PIECE OF SHIT. Someone posting under my name or close facsimiles to my name. Now, no reader knows if ANYONE’S post is real or done by a fraud.

      It makes the Asoka-dominated era look positively rational. I wish you good luck, Rhino as I, too, am outta here.

      E.

  29. fuck me June 29, 2013 at 10:32 pm #

    The following story has been pulled by the GUARDIAN, as the UK government went nuts, this article asserts that ALL EUROPEANS are spied on and their data is passed to the NSA, BY ALL EURO GOVERNMENTS.

    EURO governments were shocked by NSA story, now we find out that ALL EURO governments SHARE data.

    ***

    A former contractor to the US National Security Agency (NSA) has told the Privacy Surgeon that communications intelligence arrangements between the US and Europe are much more “complex, murky and far reaching” than the public has been led to believe.

    wayne-madsenWayne Madsen, formerly a lieutenant with the US Navy, first started working for the NSA in 1985, and over twelve years held a number of sensitive contract positions that exposed him to technical and operational aspects of the agency. He maintains a close relationship with the intelligence community.

    Madsen spoke to the Privacy Surgeon yesterday to express his concern about the “half story” being conveyed by EU politicians about the extent of NSA activities in the region.

    He was particularly concerned about the “sanctimonious outcry” of political leaders who were “feigning shock” about recently disclosed spying operations such as PRISM while staying silent about their own role in global interception arrangements with the United States.

    “I can’t understand how Angela Merkel can keep a straight face – demanding assurances from Obama and the UK – while Germany has entered into those exact relationships”

    “She’s acting like inspector Reynaud in Casablanca: ‘I’m shocked – shocked – to find gambling going on here’”

    I can’t understand how Angela Merkel can keep a straight face – demanding assurances from Obama and the UK – while Germany has entered into those exact relationships

    Unlike the UK – which has expressed a mixed response to its government’s involvement with US security – allegations of collusion with the NSA are likely to spark widespread anxiety and disbelief in Germany. However the writing was on the wall in the final report of a 2000 inquiry by the European Parliament that investigated global signals intelligence, recommendation 21 of which states: “Germany and the United Kingdom are called upon to make the authorisation of further communications interception operations by US intelligence services on their territory conditional on their compliance with the ECHR…”

    German political parties at the time of the EP inquiry had fiercely lobbied against claims that their country had colluded with the NSA, forcing a minority EP finding that bluntly stated: “The report by the Temporary Committee confirms the existence of the Echelon interception system which is administered by various countries, including the United Kingdom, a Member State of the European Union, with the cooperation of Germany.”

    The Finish communications minister has likewise denounced the NSA’s intelligence gathering, despite evidence that Finland routinely supplies signals intelligence data to the NSA through its own listening station outside Helsinki. Indeed across Europe political leaders have sought to reassure their citizens that the NSA’s activities are intolerable, while staying mute about their own involvement in those operations.

    Only the UK – historically the NSA’s closest operational ally – has defended the global system, arguing that the activity complies with all legal requirements. Madsen believes the US and the UK are almost inseparable in national security activities.

    Madsen asserted that the NSA has become more secretive and more powerful over the past few years – a view reinforced by former NSA and CIA director General Michael Hayden
    In view of the current practice of targeting the messenger instead of the message, I’ll get one matter out of the way before we go any further. Some of Madsen’s views have been – to put it mildly – controversial. His articles and books sometimes talk of clandestine arrangements at the highest levels of government. But those claims are old news – and are irrelevant to the question being addressed in this article.

    Madsen’s disclosures in the realm of SIGINT have however have been persistently correct – often expressed years before they were confirmed through official publication. Madsen warned of ECHELON long before that system was confirmed, just as he warned of widespread unchecked NSA activity years before the emergence of PRISM. He has also been at the forefront of disclosures about specific NSA pograms such as the media intelligence operation FIRSTFRUIT, which covertly monitors journalists.

    Madsen asserted that the NSA has become more secretive and more powerful over the past few years – a view reinforced by former NSA and CIA director General Michael Hayden during an interview with the Privacy Surgeon earlier this year:

    “The FISA act – the one we’re alleged to have walked all over – was amended in 2008, and the changes made to the FISA act in 2008 were far more dramatic – far more far-reaching – than anything President Bush authorised me to do under his article 2 commander-in-chief authorities,” said General Hayden.

    Madsen named seven EU countries that have been substantially engaged in communications intelligence gathering alongside the US. These are Britain, Denmark, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy. Those seven countries have formal second and third party status under the NSA’s signals intelligence agreements, and are contractually bound to the US.

    Under international intelligence agreements – most of which remain secret – nations are categorised according to their trust level. In the western world the US is defined as First Party while the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are Second Party (trusted relationships). All others are third party (less trusted) or fourth party (secret) relationships. http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ukusa.shtml

    Madsen named seven EU countries that have been substantially engaged in communications intelligence gathering alongside the US. These are Britain, Denmark, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy.

    Madsen warned that the public were being intentionally confused by the utterances of politicians. “Spain and Germany had the same deal as GCHQ and NSA at [the spy station] Bude, Cornwall with their Project TEMPORA, tapping the TAT14 cable between Denmark and Germany, Netherlands, France, UK and US.”

    He outlined the “significant extent” of signals intelligence operations in Europe, cautioning that the public needed to be made aware of the scale of these activities.

    “The Danes have an NSA listening post at Aflandshage, outside Copenhagen and the Finns provide 4th Party feed to NSA from the Santahamina facility outside Helsinki. The Swedish FRA also sends 4th Party SIGINT [signals intelligence] to NSA and has done so since the Cold War.”

    “Bundesnachrictendienst (BND) and Spanish CESID jointly operated an undersea cable tapping station at Conil called Operation Delikatesse. The station tapped the cables linking Spain to the Canaries, other Mediterranean nations, Africa, and BND turned over operation of the station to CESID in1992 but like all these arrangements, German intelligence personnel likely remained for support.”

    “NSA did the same with its Turkish SIGINT stations, turning over operation of Sinop on the Black Sea, for example, to Turkey’s MIT intelligence organization. The tapping facility, on ”Camino de los Militares” in Conil is near the Telefonica satellite ground station.”

    Some of this activity was mentioned during the 2000 EP inquiry, but the specific contractual relationships with the NSA were not made clear.

    The European Parliament’s inquiry was triggered by revelations that the NSA was conducting a global SIGINT operation known as ECHELON. Despite finding that the spying activity across Europe was vast and persistent, no further action was taken by the parliament.

    Governments have chosen to keep the public in the dark about it. They don’t understand that the days when they could get away with a conspiracy of silence are over.
    However Madsen’s reference to Turkey as a country that conducts SIGINT was not raised in the EP inquiry report. The possibility that Turkey has been covertly engaged in interception operations – possibly against European countries – could place additional pressure on Turkey’s already strained candidature to the EU.

    “A lot of this information isn’t secret, nor is it new” commented Madsen. “It’s just that governments have chosen to keep the public in the dark about it. They don’t understand that the days when they could get away with a conspiracy of silence are over.”

    Madsen’s criticism applies with particular relevance to the UK government, which for decades denied the existence of a web of SIGINT bases in Britain, instead describing them as “defence facilities” subject to full accountability.

    Madsen also expressed anger over the NSA’s hypocrisy over Edward Snowden.

    “Snowden is being roundly condemned by many who say he had no authority or right to provide the public with details of NSA snooping. But what right or authority did NSA director, General Keith Alexander, have to provide information on NSA surveillance at five meetings of the global Bilderberg Conference – two in Virginia and one meeting each in Greece, Spain and Switzerland?”

    “Alexander claims he is protecting the American people from a constantly changing number of terrorist attacks. In fact, he is providing information to elites on the methods NSA uses to spy on labor, student, religious and progressive organizations.”

    “When Alexander leaks to the elites, he’s thanked. When Snowden does it, he’s called a traitor and a coward.”

    While much of Madsen’s material is already known – particularly among intelligence observers – his commentary will be a sobering reminder to the intelligence agencies that there are thousands of contractors out there who are capable by degrees of exposing much of the entire SIGINT apparatus. The more the agencies obfuscate and personalise, the greater the likelihood that other contractors will come forward.

    “It’s time for the disinfectant of sunshine”, he added.

  30. asoka June 30, 2013 at 1:50 am #

    I hope Zimmerman walks. If he does indeed walk, how bad will the black unrest be?

  31. asoka June 30, 2013 at 1:53 am #

    Trayvon.

  32. Eleuthero June 30, 2013 at 4:56 am #

    My account has been highjacked and the above ridiculous post was not made by me at all. The problem is that on this new message board, it’s possible for ten people to post as “Smith” with ten different email addresses.

    The entropy on the board has reached blog-death levels. It’s toast.

    The Real E.

    • Eleuthero July 1, 2013 at 1:12 am #

      BT … I didn’t write the post about Gerald Celente. The board is hosed because we now not only have about 20 trolls but someone posing as me.

      E.

  33. NSA June 30, 2013 at 10:45 am #

    We here at the agency in Langley have lots of free time, having achieved Full Spectrum Dominance over every aspect of your pathetic lives……so we scrambled the IDs, screen names, order of appearance of posters at this “peak oil” greenie site. Some here wanted to have some fun with the brokerage accounts of posters….but found most had no brokerage accounts and very little savings……….

  34. NSA June 30, 2013 at 1:57 pm #

    We here at the agency in Langley have shuffled the posters like a deck of cards….sowing confusion and dissonant counterintel to fill the virtual void…..this is just too easy…..now the posters are shuffling themselves…..

  35. ozone June 30, 2013 at 3:09 pm #

    For this week, I’ll leave this massive, stinking turd for ‘Soakie-Sock to either stick in his pipe and smoke, or cram it up his ass (whichever he’d prefer, I don’t really care). Perhaps he’d like to go to Camden and evangelize on the street to the Camdenites how everything is going just swell in the FUSA. I highly recommend that course of action…

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35449.htm

    The rest of us (non-gum’mint-folk) will see this tale for what it portends; and that would be the opposite of extending and pretending bullshit.

  36. xport June 30, 2013 at 4:46 pm #

    This is pretty much the same old rant. I really like the latest Podcast, and the reality check on the fuel supply.
    So we are pretty much screwed. That depends on who the we , people or subs for the subs for the subs for the maybe people, who want to be close to the people who know a little about the real people, and those people would never associate with the other people anyway, so the winning people may never get next to the people who get the chips get cashed in. Who will be the new banker, and will the powers that be let go of the whip?

  37. BackRowHeckler June 30, 2013 at 7:03 pm #

    “Is the US facing an oil famine? Shall we be required to forego automobiling except to meet the stern necessities of war and of utilitarian traffic? Are our petroleum fields showing signs of exhaustion?”

    “The output of petroleum has not yet begun to diminish; statistics show it is still increasing; yet the downward trend of production from the present oil fields is plainly in sight”

    -from an article titled “Billions of Barrels of Oil Locked up in Rocks” National Geographic Magazine, February, 1918

  38. NSA June 30, 2013 at 7:44 pm #

    Boring weekend here at the agency in Langley so just for fun we shuffled your postings and IDs like a deck of cards……..

  39. xhalor June 30, 2013 at 11:40 pm #

    Doncha’ just love the way that humans can no longer be creepy, evil, or dangerous without CIA or US Government involvement?

    Ain’t that control?

    The patent lawsuits should be a hoot!

  40. fuck me July 1, 2013 at 3:08 am #

    The German Justice Minister, Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenburger, demanded an immediate explanation and said the behaviour of the intelligence services was “reminiscent of the actions against enemies during the Cold War”. “It defies belief that our friends in the US see the Europeans as their enemies,” she said.

    **

    Too fucking FUNNY,

    Ok, so the germans are pissed because they’re treated like the enemy, what is MOST funny is the USA public was long ago classified as the ‘enemy’ of the State,

    Frankly unless your COP, then your considered the enemy of the USA, such the demand for gun control,

    So in effect the germans are saying

    “How dare the US government treat us like lowly USA citizens”

    How dare :(

  41. Laszlo Toth, Jr. July 1, 2013 at 3:40 am #

    “If the Fed were to reduce its purchases of this debt paper, nobody else would buy it. The reason the Fed buys the quantity it does in the first place ($85 billion-a-month) is that nobody else would touch it at the offered zero interest rates.”

    Well, aside from the fact that volume in US Treasurys is $190 billion *a day*, and thus over $4100 billion a month. Which means the $85 billion monthly you mention is 2% of the total volume. It’s trivial. It’s about as small a gesture as the Fed can get away with and say they’re doing something.

    But, hey, I suppose 98% of the market might be “nobody else” — for very broad values of “nobody else.”

    • ZrCrypDiK July 1, 2013 at 6:56 am #

      “Laszlo Toth, Jr.
      July 1, 2013 at 3:40 am #

      Well, aside from the fact that volume in US Treasurys is $190 billion *a day*, and thus over $4100 billion a month. ”

      So are you saying we are $1.4 quadrillion in debt ($2.8 quadrillion?), or merely $700 *trillion* (CDO’s/CDS’s [collateralized debt obligations/credit default swaps])?!?

      (Here’s ‘hoping’ [ahaha hope and *change*] JHK gotz dah *FIX* for the manglers *next week*)

      • Laszlo Toth, Jr. July 1, 2013 at 5:22 pm #

        No, I’m saying that Treasurys are a commodity just like any other, and change hands frequently. Further, there are plenty of people around the world (though mostly in the US) willing to buy them.

        Total debt held by the public — which is what T-bills are — is ~$12 trillion. Of that, $.19 trillion — which is the same thing as $190 billion — changes hands every day.

        So with $4.1 trillion trading every month, that means in principle about a third of the debt is held by someone different at the end of each month than at the beginning… except, of course, the same bond could change hands many times, so the proportional turnover is probably smaller than that.

  42. Patrizia B. July 1, 2013 at 7:32 am #

    US empire is based on its military supremacy.
    It doesn´t have allies, it has servants.
    When its economy cannot sustain its military expenses, the only way is rigging the markets trying to steal as much money as possible.
    The only question is: how long?
    Because it is clear that it will end.

    The only answer to the economical global crisis is to go back to local.
    The power of China (and of Japan before) was based on producing cheap goods and selling them to the WEST.
    The “growth” was based on exports, the bigger the volume of exports the bigger the growth.
    But the moment there is no nation which imports your goods you have no growth.
    The solution is going back to self sustaining economies, the nation produces and consumes what it produces.
    The cost of goods is proportional to the income of the people who produce.
    No more cheap goods, less production, better quality, more durable stuff, less raw materials consumed, but a sustainable economy.
    Of course this is something the big corporations, the big banks do not like. But it is the only possible way.
    Sometimes to go forward you have to go back.

  43. CyberPass July 13, 2013 at 12:55 pm #

    “[Young people]also, consider repudiating your college debt en masse, since the fantasy of repayment is but another mental shackle holding you back from your future.”
    Hopefully, they are not so young they still engage in magical thinking: their debts, thanks to Congress, are not, like everyone else’s, dischargeable by bankruptcy. And as if staggering under the greatest class of debt in society were not enough, for many, their student loan rates just doubled to a level a mere 50 times greater than that paid by the same banks to savers. Those repudiating their debts are looking at a frightening, if not terrifying future: imprisonment at subminimum wage in FEMA-camp-factories. It won’t be called slavery, or even indentured servitude. Perhaps JHK can sponsor a contest for the best slogan describing it.

  44. UFIA June 25, 2013 at 5:47 pm #

    Fair enough, Mr. Hanky the Xmas poo. A rephrasing of my earlier remark is in order: “your incoherent and vain attempts at eloquence are flatly inexcusable and only amount to psuedo-intelectualism.”

    Jaego, you floated your emergency buoy for an ally to rescue you from your own inanity earlier on using the same appeal. However, the record clearly shows that you make far more than your fair share of grammatical and syntactic mistakes not too mention egregious logical errors in your writing and never own up to it.

    Your call out in this regard was fair and noted, but your pedophilia can’t be disguised by placing yet another sock puppet over your deviant erection, Yank-o. Nice try at misdirection, scumball.

    And even if you aren’t Jaego in disguise and the thing that prompted your post was an innocent writing error and NOT Jaego’s obvious proclivity toward child molestation demonstrated several times before today, then you are a buffoon no matter how impeccably you yourself can write. Even still, I’ll quickly exceed your level of writing verve in just a few months of practiced refinement.

    Fuck, you might even be Asoka, and in that case the exact same statement applies.

    See ya ’round, Spank

  45. wheres asoka June 26, 2013 at 12:38 am #

    lovering ? check Jgods posts.

  46. Jaego June 25, 2013 at 6:36 pm #

    I have never denied making many grammatical mistakes. If you would equal my humility, you should admit making many logical mistakes and mistakes born of hatred and arrogance. Like wanting Paula Dean to be destroyed.

  47. UFIA June 25, 2013 at 7:08 pm #

    Get real, parasite. Dean is your own infatuation, as is the subtle but unmistakable threat to children that you pose, freak.

    Your side-stepping, straw man craftsmanship, misdirection, phony attributions and false associations all indicate what a total sicko you really are. You’d be rejected anywhere else in life but this blog, and your feigned humility doesn’t fool me for a second.

    Though I’ve admitted to certain educational deficiencies in the past, don’t for a moment fool yourself that you are my equal. You’re a peach potpourri doused old and faded piece of human shit pretending to be fresh, whereas I’m a young man still comin’ up and already well above your station in life.

    Suicide is the only remaining option for you. Gawd speed!

  48. main core index June 25, 2013 at 7:39 pm #

    Pray tell, I recognize this group for what it is…

    A group of MENSA kids that never grew up,

    Still playing with their dicks in public, well into adulthood,

    ahh life is good to be with my own, :)

    I got into mensa at 14 years of age tested at 172, back then I think the floor was 148,. … I can tell you all we wouldn’t have allowed kunstler,

  49. UFIA June 25, 2013 at 8:18 pm #

    Riiiiggght, Spank. Why don’t you offer more than a spelling fairy’s critique of the underlying assertions I’ve made. Post under your convenient sock puppet moniker, Hank, consistently, and let’s have an honest exchange of ideas and criticisms. If you fancy yourself a teacher, then lead by example and share your thoughts about things other than easy potshots. If your writing is so stellar, then I’ll learn something in the process. Otherwise, your just a coward, Asoka, angry that I called you out for your bullshit earlier today, and minor typographical oversights will be the only observations you’ll dare to make.

    That said, this sparing session has run its course and I’ll retreat to my dusty grammar and syntax texts, because unlike you I don’t need to hide from my weaknesses. Keep tryin’, shithead.

  50. wheres asoka June 26, 2013 at 12:40 am #

    Are you the lil old lady in Pasadena or the great humanitarian of New Mecca, I mean New Jersey?
    [I hear NJ has #2 mu-slime population after Michigan].
    Cheers.

  51. Jaego June 25, 2013 at 9:45 pm #

    You tried the Alinsky method of polarize, isolate, and destroy with slander/ridicule, but it didn’t work. There was nothing to work with and plus you LIKE Carol. You just don’t have the credibility. Even Ozone doesn’t like Carol. Only you do. Reverse isolation, polarization. Two can play these Alinsky games.

    You still haven’t openly admitted and described what you’d like to see happen to Paula Dean and the Whites in South Africa. The word on the street is that the Pangas come out once Mandela dies. It would be very instructive for the group for you to reveal your inner thoughts on these matters.

  52. UFIA June 26, 2013 at 11:15 am #

    Yeah, go ahead and borrow my screen name whoever you are. For one thing, I would never apologize for those exchanges because I truly believe Jaego is crazy and Carol-Asoka is an empty soul just here to derail the blog. Maybe they are one in the same but who cares. I get what the other regulars see now. Please pardon, the mistake ‘Zone. I’ll do my best to never engage those fukers again, as difficult as it may be.

    Nevertheless, I didn’t write anything to regret, and despite the admitted sloppy writing, my reasoning is sound. I was willing to give Asoka the benefit of the doubt for a time, but after seeing for myself that Its provocations will sink to any low Its imagination can fathom the gloves are off. With Jaego there was never a question this doofus confused too many concepts and issues to take seriously. From the get go he attributed positions and opinions to me that I never took or alluded too, so hostility was immediately returned in kind.

    On a separate note, here’s an offering to the broader CFN crew. I’ve grown tired of listening to the Libertarian crowd, aka Ayn Rand acolytes, shill for precious metals markets and had myself a bit of a chuckle watching them all squirm as the Fed killed the paper markets in gold, but I still catch Chris Martenson podcasts when he has guests on like Neil Howe. He and Chris have a very interesting, surprisingly less cynical than I expected, discussion about the generational similarities and differences among American peeps. The obvious political bents are mostly gone from this discussion, so many of you might find it worthwhile if not already heard:

    “In 1996, demographers William Strauss and Neil Howe published the book The Fourth Turning. This study of generational cycles (“turnings”) in America revealed predictable social trends that recur throughout history, and warned of a coming crisis (a “fourth turning”) based on this research.

    Fourth turnings are defined by disorder and great changes brought on by a breakdown of the systems and operating principles that dominated the prior three turnings.”

    -UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject



  53. BackRowHeckler June 26, 2013 at 11:27 am #

    Fourth Turning? I think what we’re seeking now is the unmaking of the United States.

  54. ozone June 26, 2013 at 7:18 pm #

    Thanks for more stuff I can barely fit in, UFIA!! :D
    (No worries, we’ll make space.)

    While we’re on the podcast deal, here’s one I thought you’d really enjoy, as Dimitry O. goes into some interesting research he’s done on “Communities that Abide”. Strangely numbered podcast too: #365.

    http://c-realmpodcast.podomatic.com/entry/2013-06-05T15_08_10-07_00

    Glad to see a couple others hanging on by their nails to follow along.

    Heckler in the Back Row, I sense someone familiar peeking through the leafy green canopy of Rt. 10! ;)

    BT,
    The Boomer reaction to “nothin’ left to lose” should prove to be something entirely out of character. One of the reasons TPTB will try and keep them marginally ‘comfortable’. I seem to remember some kerfuffle about Vietnam off in the misty past. (We’ll have to wait and see of course.)

  55. BackRowHeckler June 27, 2013 at 6:11 pm #

    You’re right, that ain’t the original P2C, handsome southern gentleman and tree farmer. The original P2C is more measured in his comments. This new P2C sounds alot like Kevin in LA.

  56. Kdog June 27, 2013 at 10:42 pm #

    I guess Asoka is the new PoC.

  57. Jesus Tapdancing Christ June 28, 2013 at 4:11 pm #

    There is room for everyone at my father’s table, my child.

  58. UPDATE THE OLD SITE July 1, 2013 at 8:28 pm #

    Yeah, because he’s actually a total asshole in real life. I agree with 95% of what he writes, but he’s also part of the problem with society. He just wants to see it all collapse to make his predictions correct. I think he won’t actually like it when it happens for real…….

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