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Going To the Movies

I don’t go to the movies much anymore, alas, because the nearest mall cineplex — owned by a company named Regal that runs the place like a self-storage facility — is a dump with broken seats and teenage employees who forget to turn out the lights when the movie starts. But the weekend weather here was sloppy, and this is the movie awards season, and I wanted to get an idea of what Hollywood thinks America is about these days, so I hauled my carcass over to see Django Unchained and Zero Dark Thirty, in that order.
     Years ago I rather admired Tarantino’s Pulp Fiction for its rococo storytelling method and comic expansiveness. The sheer volume of gore and mayhem strained my suspension of disbelief, but I was charmed by the audacity — for instance the scene where a character played by Quentin himself repeats to the two hit men with a dead body that he’s not in the business of “dead nigger storage,” which was in there, I’m sure, just to rub a lot of sanctimonious minds the wrong way.
     Django Unchained is something else: perhaps the most incoherent movie ever made, but in a way that nicely represents the culture that it comes out of. For the uninitiated, the movie tells the tale of a slave named  Django (“the D is silent,” actor Jamie Foxx informs another character) rescued from a slave coffle by a German bounty hunter named Schultz posing as an itinerant dentist. Together they ride forth to slaughter white people involved in the slavery business to 1) make a lot of money off bounties, 2) free Django’s captive wife Broomhilda, and 3) enjoy many acts of bloody revenge.
     What you notice right away is that the filmmaker has no sense of American history or geography. One moment you’re in the Sonoran Desert, the next moment the Montana Rockies. Huh? Of course the line on Tarantino by film savants is that his weltanschauung is a gleeful composition of movie history pastiche. That is, his ideas come only from other movies (or television), not from the so-called real world and the record of goings-on there. So in this case they are derived from previous movies made by earlier auteurs who got the details wrong about mid-19th century life. That may be so, but the difference is that the earlier movie directors, however mis-educated or befuddled by convention, might have cared about the milieu they attempted to represent. Tarantino is content to be wildly wrong about just about everything. Or rather, the details don’t matter as long as the fantasy satisfies portions of the brain where ideas are not processed.
     What interests me about all this is how perfectly Tarantino’s mental universe reflects the current situation in our nation, in particular the infantile disregard for the facts of life, the self-referential inanity of our culture, and the complete absence of authenticity in anything. What disturbed me about the movie was the sense that Tarantino has set the table for race war, like a jolly arsonist playing with matches and gasoline in a foreclosed house. He won a Golden Globe award for directing last night.
     Zero Dark Thirty tells the tale of a CIA unit based in Pakistan and its laborious efforts to track down Osama bin Laden, perpetrator of the 9/11 airplane attacks on the USA and other misdeeds. It focuses on the doings of a female American agent, uncelebrated in the annals of this long, strange “War on Terror,” who pored over the minutiae of cell phone records for a decade before locating the messenger who led CIA watchers to bin Laden’s hideout in Abbottabad, where Navy SEALs finally sent him to his eternal reward of feasts and virgins.
     The movie, directed by Kathryn Bigalow, is a bloodless recounting of some very grim and bloody business from recent history. The controversy around it comes from the extensive scenes of “extreme interrogation” carried out by American officials against captured jihadists in “dark” locations. Critics have objected to the movie’s lack of a moral position about these brutal activities. Was it right? Was it wrong? The movie simply asserts that it happened that way. Some politicians have objected as to whether the depiction of all these matters is correct in the first place. Nor is the killing of bin Laden treated as an occasion for fist-pumping histrionics. If anything, the event leaves you with a hollow feeling and a bad taste for the time we live in. I admired especially – for the first time in many a movie – the absence of techno-triumphalism involving computers.
     The contrast between the two movies is extremely interesting to me: Tarantino the populist, shall we say, reveling in a splatter-film Americana with barely a tenuous connection to reality, either historical, cultural, or emotional; and the assiduous Bigalow laying out the very serious business of capable adults engaging with a world that consistently terrifies and disappoints. Kathryn Bigalow didn’t win an award for directing at the Golden Globes.
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  1. Wolfer69 January 14, 2013 at 9:47 am #

    First Beeyotches

  2. Leibowitz Society January 14, 2013 at 9:50 am #

    Jim, I advise seeing “Les Miserables” if you haven’t already done so. At least there’s a little history, some good signing, and a great example of what most of our society is going to look like in a generation or so, if not sooner. I largely quit going to the movies because I felt dumber when I left, but actually felt like I’d seen a work of art afterwards.
    Visit the Leibowitz Society at for more information and commentary on our coming Dark Age.

  3. Hammering Truth January 14, 2013 at 9:53 am #

    America is in a total state of confusion. There are no boundaries and there is no line to cross over. Our leaders understand this all too well:

  4. HenryMorgan January 14, 2013 at 9:53 am #

    Both these films will be forgotten in a matter of weeks. ‘Casablanca’ and ‘The Treasure of the Sierra Madre’ will be watched and discussed 50 years from now.
    –Panic in Year 0

  5. Collapse Watch January 14, 2013 at 9:55 am #

    Going to the movies anymore is a disturbing experience. Hollywood and the marketing profession are psychopaths. The commercials are certifiably insane. And Coke!! It’s in every freakin ad. Saw Django several weeks prior. Tarantino knows how to push buttons, doesn’t he? Two movies in a row that provide Justice on the Silver Screen heretofore never witnessed. His irreverence of tyrants, be they the Nazis or the Slaveowners, is admirable. But Jesus, the opening commercials and previews are Nuts and intolerable.

  6. ShabbaRanks January 14, 2013 at 9:59 am #

    You mean to tell me your not biting on that new Stingray that General Motors rolled out in Detroit last weekend?

  7. DeeJones January 14, 2013 at 9:59 am #

    “Django Unchained is something else: perhaps the most incoherent movie ever made, but in a way that nicely represents the culture that it comes out of.”
    Well, I haven’t seen either movie, but obviously you haven’t seen any David Lynch movies either. But I get your point. If Tarantino hadn’t made it with Pulp Fiction, he probably would have ended up in the porn industry, churning out ‘snuff’ films or something like that. He is a total crap artist.
    The awards reflect the values, or lack thereof, of American culture (or lack thereof).
    Thanks for the informed weekly posts.
    Now, back to the usual crap, followed by numerous posts by Vlad, or Radish Vodka, or whatever that looser calls himself now.

  8. Dirk January 14, 2013 at 10:02 am #

    Well darnit I like Tarrentino. He is so into his art that it is contagious. Loved ‘Death Proof’, ‘Planet Terror’ (Rose McGowan…rrrrrrRRRRRROOOW!!), ‘Magnificent Bastards’ and of course, ‘Pulp Fiction’.
    Have zero…less than zero interest in seeing Zero Dark Thirty because the enter Bin Laden killing event was fixed fake and I still don’t believe a word of it.

  9. PRD January 14, 2013 at 10:11 am #

    Hmmmmmm… a Kunstler post turning into a discussion & reviews of recent movies? That’ll be different. Has anyone seen “Life of Pi” yet? I’m not even sure if it’s still in theaters, the way they cycle films so quickly in the multiplexes. It looks colorful, good storytelling, without handguns going off and car chases every 20 minutes knocking over fruit stands. Seems like something to see on a big screen. Any opinions?

  10. Unconventional Ideas January 14, 2013 at 10:15 am #

    We go to the movies a lot; to the ” Brew ‘n’ View theaters with quality, localy-sourced brews and food. These places screen recent independent dramas and documentaries as well as classic films from the past.
    If your community has one or several of these theaters, let me suggest them as an alternative to the Regal variety.

  11. ccm989 January 14, 2013 at 10:15 am #

    Saw only 3 movies this year — Lincoln (saw 2x) cause it was that great, Argo (saw 1x) which was a “edge of your seat thriller” — really terrific. Saw Hyde Park on the Hudson (1x) — FDR may have been a great statesman but he was portrayed basically as a dirty old man. Sort of disappointing and sad.

  12. erikSF99 January 14, 2013 at 10:16 am #

    James, That PERFECTLY describes the Regal Cineplex in Emeryville, California. Hurrah for consistency!

  13. Piper Michael January 14, 2013 at 10:21 am #

    Hollywood… really?

  14. Collapse Watch January 14, 2013 at 10:25 am #

    Tarantino isn’t entirely historically inaccurate. Who would deny that “House Niggers” weren’t some of the most reviled Blacks among slaves? Samuel L. Jackson was superb in his role as the Uncle Tom. He deserves an award for his role. Yes, Tarantino is purposely over-the-top absurd, but he’s not entirely historically inaccurate. His point is to thumb his nose at the conventional historical narrative…to treat it with the irreverence it deserves. And he does that well. Two Thumbs up on Django. For a true masterpiece of a movie, see Lars von Trier’s Antichrist. Pure art.

  15. loveday January 14, 2013 at 10:26 am #

    Well there isn’t much worth going to see at the movies. Besides now in order to go to the theater you have to wear your body armour and Kevlar helmet… Just in case the local psycho gets out of hand that day and shows up to put some holes in the crowd. But seriously Tarantino produces movies of such violence and chaos that if a film of his comes out I make a point of avoiding it. The guy does not produce anything that remotely resembles a piece of art, the guy is a hack.

  16. Barter4Booze January 14, 2013 at 10:29 am #

    Besides KFN, there’s another blog I look forward to reading every Monday morning. It’s Chris Hedges’s weekly offering over on
    There, he linked a couple of weeks ago to the review of Django Unchained written by Ishmael Reed. Here:
    Jim, too bad about your movie-going experience. Perhaps you might want to take over on that shitty movie theater, fire the stoned projectionist, fix the seats, and run the place as a Worker self-directed enterprise. Hell, if the workers thought it might be a good idea you could even have a dress code!

  17. Randall Flagg January 14, 2013 at 10:30 am #

    “Zero Dark Thirty” based on a non-event.

  18. empirestatebuilding January 14, 2013 at 10:33 am #

    Even in the era of big screen TV’s and Surround Sound, there is nothing like going to a theater and seeing a big action movie. I save the dramas for my living room. I saw Django and thought it was outrageous but entertaining. I’m not a critic, I just want to be passively entertained for a couple of hours.
    I did enjoy your review. It was a good Group Fantasy / Psychohistory breakdown.
    Happy New Year everyone : )
    Aimlow Joe was here

  19. KaraokeVox January 14, 2013 at 10:38 am #

    Wow. Thanks, Kunstler.

  20. seminolejim January 14, 2013 at 10:39 am #

    Sorry Jim, but Tarantino won best screenplay. Best director went to Ben Affleck for “Argo”. Also, not to be a butt, but…they’re called “enhanced interrogation techniques.”
    I read this blog every Monday, and I respectfully suggest you keep away from writing about films.

  21. Rhino January 14, 2013 at 10:40 am #

    Race doesn’t matter, right? Yet you are desperate to negate the existence of the Northern White Man – who did so much to create Classical Civilization. – Radu
    I desperate to do no such thing. I don’t minimize white folks’ (northern or otherwise) achievements and I try not to portray them in a fashion that distorts what they’ve done, good or bad. What I want to do is give a reasonable take on history, based on facts and not fantasy. I have nothing for or against northern white man. For one thing I have a good heaping helping of that bloodline myself.
    Create classical civilization? Sounds like a distortion of history. Sounds like you’re trying to appropriate achievements for people that had little or nothing to do with them.
    You talk about non-whites’ dumbness. Go back two thousand or three thousand years and you’ll probably find civilized non-European, non-whites saying that about northern European white people. Northerners had Greco Roman civilization handed to them on a platter and fucked it up totally and put Europe into a nasty Dark Age that took a thousand years to recover from.
    But on the other side of the ledger northern Europeans propelled science and technology forward in the Renaissance, the Enlightenment, the Industrial Age, the Space Age, the Information Age and they explored the world and beyond. Europeans and especially northern Europeans may have been way, way behind others in civilization building for thousands of years but especially in the last 500 years they made up for lost time. Where you live now was a creation of northern Europeans and as I’ve said in other posts the busiest place in a multitude of cities worldwide is the US Embassy where people line up to get admission to the US.
    There’s no minimizing the spectacular achievements of people from northern Europe especially the Brits. Where do people want to immigrate to? The UK, the US, Australia, Canada. All creations of those much maligned Anglos. And look at Hong Kong. What would it be if not for British rule? So really there’s nothing like the Anglo system based on law and order and work and self restraint. If people don’t believe it look at crummy places like Mexico and South America which was colonized by Spanish and Portuguese. Those are the places that millions of people run away from. And where do they go? The US. To retake what was savagely taken from them? No, that is bullshit propagated by bullshitters. They go to the US because even an unskilled laborer doing really shitty, hard work can make in a day what it takes a week to earn in the place that he came from.

  22. xhalor January 14, 2013 at 10:43 am #

    I just decided to change my name to
    Lester Miserable
    You can call me Les.

  23. Smokyjoe January 14, 2013 at 10:50 am #

    I loved Pulp Fiction for its brains, humor, and homage to Hitchcock’s Psycho when Butch, driving his little Honda, spots Marsellus Wallace crossing the street.
    Tarantino has never been about high art, but he has voluminous knowledge of film history.
    And yet.
    His films make evil “cool,” to quote a long-forgotten critique by UVA’s Roger Shattuck:
    “When Evil is Cool”.
    Killing slavers may have been justifiable and seem to be a good thing in a film, but I’m sure that Tarantino makes the mayhem look cool. For all his talent, Tarantino cannot dodge that critique, and it’s the signature problem with a sick entertainment culture, from games to “needing” lots of guns, to FPS Russia on YouTube.
    Evil is not cool unless we make it cool. We have.

  24. laceration January 14, 2013 at 11:49 am #

    I grew up on the once great art form of American movies. At a certain point – must of been in the 1990’s – I realized I had to watch 10 pieces of shit to see 1 worthy film. So I quit. Hollywood films are now nothing but money making endeavours that manipulate simple emotions of a dumbed down audience replete with the tacit advertising of product placements. Even the high brow films are pretentious, sanctimonious garbage. The industry is more about itself than its product – another racket of American life as Jim has described. The sub industries of celebrity idolatry and its business gossip is a bunch of stinking shit too. How this industry aggressively has attempted to corrupt the whole internet and trample on our rights to protect its archaic propriety business model of entitlement and copyright deserve nothing else but your boycott. This industry is fading into irrelevance – it is not even as big as the video game industry.

  25. erikSF99 January 14, 2013 at 12:07 pm #

    Laceration said: ” How this industry aggressively has attempted to corrupt the whole internet and trample on our rights to protect its archaic propriety business model of entitlement and copyright deserve nothing else but your boycott. This industry is fading into irrelevance – it is not even as big as the video game industry.”
    I agree. Remember back in the days of cassettes where everyone would make compilation tape of their favorite music and then all their friends would buy even MORE records from what they discovered on their friends’ compilations? And the record sleeves in England has a skull & Crossbones across a drawing of a cassette with the logo: Home taping is killing music.
    And where did interest in music go since then and the arrival of CDs? Down the tubes. Video games have also long been bigger than music sales. I could list 20 ways at least that the music industry has shot itself in the foot these last 40 years.
    BTW, here a great article explaining about a study whose results we all know intuitively (as with friends sharing music via cassettes). You’ll read this and say, “Well, duh.” Except the movie industry who are duhmb.
    Copyright Bombshell: New Study Finds Megaupload’s File-Sharing Supported Box Office
    It was a five year study:
    “In all specifications we find that the shutdown had a negative, yet in some cases insignificant effect, on box office revenues,” the researchers write.
    The researchers therefore believe that their findings may support the notion that piracy can act as promotion. Those who pirate movies may talk about them to friends, who unlike them do pay for movie tickets.…

  26. dale January 14, 2013 at 12:07 pm #

    I think the violent gun murder film genre may be reaching its natural crescendo this year with Sly Stallone’s new entry “Bullet to the Head” (leaving no doubt what you are about to be exposed to). In the advertisement, a hand wringing wimpy guy comes on screen to emote vociferously with the lead in line “You can’t just kill a guy!!”. To which of course, Stallone responds by pumping someone full of lead and responding, or so wittily, “I just did”. Senseless murder as humor, where else is there left to go from there?

  27. HenryMorgan January 14, 2013 at 12:27 pm #

    “Senseless murder as humor, where else is left to go from there?” — Dale
    Oh, there’s a little further to go, Dale. The next and final step is actual murder, filmed and in color for your viewing pleasure. When that happens, and it most certainly will, then you’ll know civilization has ended, and the time of fear has arrived!
    –Panic in Year 0

  28. Goat1080 January 14, 2013 at 12:28 pm #

    Yeah, I’ve heard the movies are getting so violent and so full of ‘special effects’ that you actually end up with real bullets flying….
    I’m just as soon pass…

  29. Neon Vincent January 14, 2013 at 12:30 pm #

    I once heard Tarantino described as someone with immense talent and no taste. Based on your review, it looks like that’s indeed the case. It didn’t help Tarantino that his long-time editor died after “Inglorious Basterds.” Without her, the movies make less sense. It shows the use of a good editor.
    I haven’t blogged about this past year’s award nominated movies yet, but I will. One of them is about a Detroiter, “Searching for Sugar Man.” Other than that, most of the films don’t have either a local or a sustainbility focus. The best bet would be “Chasing Ice,” which was nominated for its song. Good luck winning that against Adele’s “Skyfall.”
    As for the past week’s blogging, I’ve been recapping last year’s extreme weather and following the announcement of the Kresge Foundation pledging $150 million to make Detroit more sustainable. I hope that ends up being money well-spent.
    Coming up will be the North American International Auto Show.
    Happy Motoring–for now–from Detroit!

  30. cbwim January 14, 2013 at 12:40 pm #

    Hopefully Jim you won’t take anything lasting away from these movies – namely influenza.
    With the current epidemic in progress I would think that movie theaters, shopping malls, airplanes, churches or any place where large groups of people come and breathe recycled air are best avoided.

  31. helen highwater January 14, 2013 at 12:47 pm #

    The correct spelling of her name is Bigelow, not Bigalow.

  32. sevenmmm January 14, 2013 at 12:50 pm #

    What a waste of time and money then. I went and saw The Hobbit a few weeks ago. No one can tell the future with accuracy, but methinks The Hobbit is a worthwhile exercise in a movie more believable than the tripe made by producers that are copying the copiers.

  33. voltage January 14, 2013 at 12:51 pm #

    Watched The Hunger Games last night with tean age daughter who read the books
    What a creepy movie kind of a wierd American Idol
    With a repressive goverment keeping the people like slaves While a rich upper class lives in luxury in the city.
    Kind of makes a person rethink gun control

  34. Collapse Watch January 14, 2013 at 12:55 pm #

    The correct spelling of her name is Bigelow, not Bigalow.

    I think it’s Bigablow.
    Anyway, to support the notion that Django, whist purposely absurd at points and violently over-the-top, is not completely historically inaccurate, listen to Malcolm talk of the Field Negro and the House Negro. Tarantino did an excellent job of capturing precisely capturing Malcolm’s assertion and sentiment.

  35. Bustin Jay January 14, 2013 at 12:55 pm #

    The most underrated movie of 2012 was End of Watch.

  36. RyeBeachBum January 14, 2013 at 1:01 pm #

    Speaking of movies, the Ray Milland Movies of which you refer is free on you tube. Predicated by a nuclear attack, a family out on camping vacation try to survive rapid collapse, an interesting movie worth a watch for how they deal with post attack chaos.

  37. Bustin Jay January 14, 2013 at 1:02 pm #

    lacy sed ” This industry is fading into irrelevance – it is not even as big as the video game industry.”
    Speaking of which who has played this years spectacular first person offerings?
    Yeah, and how do we claim to grasp the zeitgeist?
    JHK’s next dumpster dive into the greater parts of popular culture must include several days eating cheez doodles, and mashing buttons, slaying zombies, nazis, robots, and innocent bystanders if he is going to take his role as cultural critic seriously.

  38. budizwiser January 14, 2013 at 1:15 pm #

    Movies? Movie awards?
    Gosh darn it. James – the facts are such that many many millions of people consumed many millions of gallons of petroleum-based product getting to the movies in the first place….. Going to the movies.
    Get it? Ha ha — moveies……
    My point being that the real story here is that there is so much discretionary energy consumption in the movie industry that you could probably support 15,000 square miles of “suburban utopia” for a century if the industry were to go dark.
    Long Emergency indeed. James, pray tell – please illuminate when the effects of our nation’s peak debt will reach the nation’s ignorant masses.
    You can’t clamor for social collapse if you can’t predict the end to federal deficit spending and global debt-growth. These are not even in sight yet.
    Good essay – after all it IS your BLOG.

  39. asoka: January 14, 2013 at 1:18 pm #

    “Jack Reacher” gets my vote. Tom Cruise was superb. A manly performance to say the least. I’m currently working my way through the Jack Reacher novels which, as usual when comparing books to movies, are the more detailed and enjoyable medium.
    At the same time I’ve been reading the Spanish translations as the Spanish language conveys a more subtly nuanced touch when it comes to action scenes.
    Viva La Reconquista!!!

  40. Radu Voda January 14, 2013 at 1:20 pm #

    But you loved Inglourius Bastards. Perhaps the shoe is now on the other foot? You’re right: they wont discriminate between Jew and Gentile – they’ll only see White.
    Farakahn see Django Unchained as a prelude to Race War. He approves of course. Lincoln was also a good hate Whitey movie, glorifying Blacks and degrading White Southerners.…

  41. erikSF99 January 14, 2013 at 1:29 pm #

    Voltage said: “Watched The Hunger Games last night with tean age daughter who read the books
    What a creepy movie”
    I just read all three BOOKS. The next movie comes out this November with the third book split over the following two Novembers. In regard to everyone else’s comments today about violence…those next two books are violent in the extreme compared to the first book…which “only” involved 24 teenagers trying to kill each other for the pleasure of the powers-that-be. The next books reveal an even more violent and vile government that is ruthless in torturing and murdering its citizens. What a future!
    Jim’s World Made by Hand books are positively pastoral and upbeat in comparison and provide better role models for young people. In one sense, it’s nice that the Hunger books have a heroine who is not perfect, in fact is far from it, who is angry, unforgiving and always ready for violence…but her only real ‘growth’ comes in a small step right at the end of the third book! Yeow. But as role model for my daughter and son? I bought the film and then set it aside on the shelf. It’s just not appropriate in any sense for the teenagers it’s aimed at. The Lethal Weapon films provide better role models!
    YET the Hunger Game books are aimed precisely at a teenage audience…they’re published by Scholastic. I think I’ll write Scholastic and tell them to publish Jim’s books. Seriously.

  42. xhalor January 14, 2013 at 1:31 pm #

    So you really want 10 thousand Congressional Representatives, huh…
    How do you propose to pay for them? I suppose a tax increase is out of the question.
    I know! We can have a gun sale!

  43. Radu Voda January 14, 2013 at 1:31 pm #

    Yes it was the White Man’s Love of the Law that did so much to create our prosperity. It was not just external, something done when other were looking. It was internalized, part of our being. That is passing away with the death of our Churches and Traditions. Also as the Chinese say, the ordinary man will do as his Superiors do. People see the Elite have no morals and get away with anything and everything. So the Center is gone.
    Remember, the Germanic Barbarians admired Rome and wanted to become part of it. Sure they were crude, but not ungifted. They did save some of it, the Romans themselves were mostly gone. But yes, it was a new Civilization. You can’t have Rome without Romans after all. And their religion and institutions had all but collapsed by that point anyway.
    To believe that our current Barbarians will do as good a job is idle indeed. They have no admiration for us nor have they the gifts to do so. The Muslims will create more Islam out of Europe and America if allowed to. The Hispanics, more Mexico. The Blacks more Africa. All this is depressing and frightening. Whites should strive for their own piece(s) of the crumbling pie.

  44. Collapse Watch January 14, 2013 at 1:33 pm #

    Hate to say it, but…
    we is all Field Negroes now.
    The Plutocrats doesn’t care weathers u white, black, yella, arnge, green or brown. You’s all r trash ta dem.

  45. Radu Voda January 14, 2013 at 1:36 pm #

    Blacks lovin’ Django Unchained. As Jaimie Fox said, I get to kill all the White Folks. What’s not to like? Some Blacks are going to see it again and again….

  46. Collapse Watch January 14, 2013 at 1:38 pm #

    Whites should strive for their own piece(s) of the crumbling pie.

    Let’s put down a wager on who gets the Nukes. Afterall, Nukes are as “American” as that Apple Pie, and he who controls the Nukes……

  47. J Lee January 14, 2013 at 1:42 pm #

    To Wolferbaby69: “First Beeyotches”
    Fabulous baby!!! Thirty fourth Beeyotches for me!! I’m so clever.

  48. Radu Voda January 14, 2013 at 1:45 pm #

    Not quite: since the Elite of the New World Order are White or Jewish, they are obviously going to hate Whites the most since other Whites are their greatest opposition. The American Republic, founded by Christian Whites, is their worst nightmare. Jews naturally gravitate towards Multiculturalism and the Centralized State that rules it – so there will be no serious oppostion from that quarter. And the Blacks and the Hispanics are the beneficiaries, so none there either.
    Some tension right now though: some feel that Obama and Holder have snuffed out one of the brightest young Jews of his generation – Aaron Schwartz.

  49. whitehunter January 14, 2013 at 1:47 pm #

    Lincoln was a white supremacist. Just read his comments from the fourth debate with Stephen Douglas. He has been remade by political correctness. He is used as an example of why debauchery is sometimes necessary. The end justifies the means.

  50. HenryMorgan January 14, 2013 at 1:50 pm #

    Yes, RyeBeachBum, ‘Panic in Year Zero’, starring as well as directed by Ray Milland … Franky Avalon was in it. It was in Black & White (which makes it even more charming), filmed on the cheap, in 1962, a little after ‘On the Beach’. 50 years ago they had their own apocalyptic scenarios to worry about. And we have ours. Although I’ve yet to see a full length film about peak oil. Actually I’m a little surprised nobody yet has bought the rights to ‘World Made by Hand’. That book would make a pretty good movie, no?
    Panic in Year Zero

  51. xhalor January 14, 2013 at 1:56 pm #

    “…and he who controls the Nukes……”
    Controls the Dukes?

  52. HenryMorgan January 14, 2013 at 1:57 pm #

    And I love pre 1965 movies filmed in and around Los Angeles, using the City itself as a set. What a beautiful place it was. If you go back far enough you can still see the Orange Groves, which were everywhere, in certain background shots.
    What’s it look like now?

  53. Collapse Watch January 14, 2013 at 1:59 pm #

    Any thoughts on Tarantino’s next project? If we follow his latest theme coursing through Basterds and Django, I think something involving justice served to the Roman Catholic Church would be on tap. From Nazis to Slave Owners to Priests/Bishops/Cardinals/Popes. Talk about a backlash. I don’t think Tarantino would survive that one, if he managed to get financing at all. They’d sic the Jesuits on him.
    By the way, he’s really put on weight, hasn’t he? He obviously has a gastro imbalance, or it’s the psyche meds.

  54. Radu Voda January 14, 2013 at 2:14 pm #

    Al Qaeda has imposed Shariah Law on Northern Mali. And that means no music. Since music is central to all Black Cultures, this is indeed perverse. I hope you have the courage to speak out againt the Jihad against Black Africa.
    I know that there are other less strict schools of Interpretation that allow music when properly done. That would exclude all popular Western Music I believe.

  55. Kyooshtik January 14, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

    I advise seeing “Les Miserables” …… At least there’s a little history, some good signing, and…
    Yeah, I guess you’re referring to that scene where a French guy is making a “speech” to some deaf people

  56. Radu Voda January 14, 2013 at 2:17 pm #

    No the Truth must reign. As Solzhenitsyn said, live not by lies. Your Tower of Babel is a prison, a mad house, a brothel, and a Den of Vipers. It must fall and it will.
    Blacks are less intelligent and nothing can change that. Why should we be handicapped just to make them feel good about themselves? Especially since feeling good about themselves doesn’t change them hating us.

  57. asoka: January 14, 2013 at 2:27 pm #

    I can speak out against it, but would that change anything? Most anything said on the internet is just so much verbal graffiti anyway…
    If only someone would dose the Al Qaida leadership with a healthy dose of LSD perhaps, and play a few hours of Mozart or Bach for them. The highest expression of music ever created. Short of that what could change their minds? Nothing I can think of.

  58. Kyooshtik January 14, 2013 at 2:28 pm #

    one of the brightest young Jews of his generation – Aaron Schwartz.
    It’s Swartz.

  59. kulturcritic* January 14, 2013 at 2:32 pm #

    James – It seems to me that Western culture has been infantile for millennia; it is only that the USA demonstrates our truly ontogenetic regression. kulturCritic

  60. Michigan Native January 14, 2013 at 2:34 pm #

    Ditto about the supposed “execution” of Osama been Forgotten. You mean to tell me that the military industrial complex and their latest puppet would not have salivated at the opportunity to photograph his remains and drag his corpse through the streets of Washington with the latest tank that they are trying to sell? Total bullshit. Like that other movie I saw years ago, I believe it was called “And They Were Soldiers”, depicted the “relief” mission in Somalia to be a “humanitarian” one and masked the real reasons for the US meddling in yet another third world country (oil).
    People who try to tell the truth or depict reality are assailed, like Oliver Stone. His movie JFK was a fairly accurate depiction of the coup de tat that took place in 1963, roughly one month after I was born. It was assailed several months even before it came out. Likewise, his movies “Platoon” and “Salvador” accurately reflect US foreign policy, and surely made him a whipping boy for the establishment.
    I have the “luxury” of going to modern theatres, with the soft reclining seats. I notice the numbers of cars in the parking lots are about 1/2 of what they were before the crash in 2008. They don’t turn the lights all the way down, leave just enough light so their security guard can see if you snuck in your own refreshments. You see, the movie theatres get like 10% of the gross after their operating costs, they hope to make their profit from the buttered popcorn and high fructose corn syrup shit that they hope you will buy after the $10 ticket. Last time, I had a nice bottle of whiskey I wanted to nip on, this Chinese looking security guard stared at me through the whole show, it was rather annoying to pretend to take a piss to get a little buzz going. I am surprised the fucker didn’t follow me into the bathroom stall, at which point I was ready to perform some high karate of my own on his ass. I haven’t been to a movie since that time.
    I heard “Lincoln” was good, but I wonder if they show that he really didn’t give a damn about slavery and only used it as a tool to keep the British from helping the crackers win their civil war. Maybe I will break down and go, James descriptions have me curious to see all the good things I have been missing out on

  61. Radu Voda January 14, 2013 at 2:35 pm #

    Signing is in art in its own right. Many deaf people hate those who can hear and hope that their children will be deaf too.

  62. Kyooshtik January 14, 2013 at 2:49 pm #

    To close out last night’s discussion with Being There:
    Don’t be silly or over sensitive…you certainly CAN continue to talk to me.
    One of my great fears is that in a hundred years time science will have figured out how to take my ashes from the Hellmann’s Mayonnaise jar residing on a shelf in some dark basement and reconstitute me. I’ll immediately resume reading blog comments (or their then equivalent) and find people STILL talking about “facing a steep learning curve” and I’ll have to kill myself. Same with taking the good with the bad and could care less.

  63. Buck's A Stud January 14, 2013 at 2:55 pm #

    “So really there’s nothing like the Anglo system based on law and order and work and self restraint.”
    Perhaps you should take a page from the Anglo system of self-restraint and restrain yourself from resurrecting your conversation with Vlud Ravu so early in the thread. You were one of the opening comments and you didn’t have the decency to comment on the topic posted by the host of this blog. Which, by the way, was a very fine compare and contrast essay, IMO.

  64. San Jose Mom 51 January 14, 2013 at 2:57 pm #

    I saw “Zero Dark 30” last night with my husband. The torture scenes were hard to watch. The explosion sequence at the Marriott restaurant was stunning. In another scene the national security advisor was walking down a hallway in the West Wing and the there was a flower arrangement in an alcove with hydranges and snapdragons in a crystal vase. It was a horrible arrangement that did not come close to White House standards!

  65. asoka: January 14, 2013 at 3:17 pm #

    Why did you go watch that drivel? Do you honestly think Bin Laden was still in Pakistan when the SEALs supposedly showed up? He was probably dead sometime before 9/11 happened.
    Here’s your clue – How does someone (Bin Laden) get dialysis when he’s holed up in a cave in Central Asia? He doesn’t; he dies.
    I’m normally averse to conspiracy theories but that one REALLY just did not add up.
    Over and out, Mommy.

  66. tripticket January 14, 2013 at 3:20 pm #

    I see the bread and circuses are still doing their job…telling.

  67. tripticket January 14, 2013 at 3:21 pm #

    On a more tangible note, it’s good to see some old-timers around today – Dee, SJMom, et al. Howdy do!

  68. tripticket January 14, 2013 at 3:24 pm #

    Last movie I saw in the theater was Avatar. And I enjoyed it I have to say. Think maybe I’ll just end on a high note…

  69. asoka: January 14, 2013 at 3:26 pm #

    Rather judgmental of you Tripp.
    All too typical of a former Christian Evangelical.
    Be well.

  70. Radu Voda January 14, 2013 at 3:37 pm #

    That scenario is what the song “Killing me softly with your song” is all about.

  71. tripticket January 14, 2013 at 3:48 pm #

    “All too typical of a former Christian Evangelical.”
    Oh my god! How could you say such mean-spirited things?? You, bleepity-bleeping bleephead!
    [Sarcasm off.]

  72. k-dog January 14, 2013 at 3:53 pm #

    That would be a great movie and a lot more relevant to our times than that Django wank.
    Welcome to the 2026, the Latifundium of Davenport Iowa.
    Thirty thousand of all races toil in the burning sun harvesting corn to fill rusting barges to deliver their hand raised hand towed crop to the Prefecture of Chicago.
    Everything machines used to do by oil is now done by hand. The thin soils of the once verdant but now baking land are daily nourished with the bodies of the fallen. Head honchos from the lost nation below the southern deserts cradle AR-15’s as they watch placidly over the dirty tattered rag covered sunburned bodies of slaves bent over their work.
    The slave barracks, a wild collection of old FEMA trailers and junked school buses requires no fence. All overseers carry chip scanners and cell phones and guns. Escape is impossible, everyone is tagged, and an abundant supply of slaves means they are not yet worth enough to save. Escape is a capital offense, no questions and less mercy.
    The Latifundium is immense, far larger than anything from ancient times and compared to American plantations of two hundred years ago, a total cultural wasteland with Jesus at gunpoint one day a week and equal misery.
    The size, made possible with electronic slave management devices was necessary because hands born in the time of magic and play could not raise corn without extensive direction and the economy of scale was not forgotten in the bloody transition.
    That would be a movie, but probably a bit more than Quintin is capable of. He makes great vignettes and presumes to mock society but I think he would have a lot of trouble with ‘the big picture’.
    One of the latifundium slaves pauses unseen for a brief moment to recall how that inglorious bastard Hitler was killed in a movie theater in Paris in 1944. Comforted by the knowledge, that tyrants always fall, she resumes her work. All she has are childhood memories. They are not memories that represent any true past but then memories never are.

  73. mistified January 14, 2013 at 4:23 pm #

    “”Jack Reacher” gets my vote. Tom Cruise was superb. A manly performance to say the least.”
    Shut up, puke. There is nothing “manly” about Tom Cruise. Even when performing. He’s a Scientologist for fuck’s sake and you sir, are a fucking MORON.

  74. tripticket January 14, 2013 at 4:30 pm #

    Real world update:
    Why does the U.S. government give a damn about what’s going on in Mali?
    A quick look at Wiki tables of proven oil and gas reserves explains a lot about their prominent military positions overseas. And what leverage points they can exploit to improve them.
    Just looking at the top 20 on each list, the countries fall into several predictable categories:
    1) Countries that are too big or politically-awkward to mess with like China and Russia
    2) The U.S. itself
    3) Client states like Australia, Canada, and Saudi Arabia
    4) States currently occupied by the U.S., or next door to occupied states, like Iraq and many of “the Stans” in central Asia (Turkmenistan being #3 on the gas list)
    5) States that the U.S. government is trying like hell to drum up opposition to, like Iran (very high on both lists, btw)
    6) Or very near Mali! (where the U.S. doesn’t have a lot of regional influence)
    Ding, ding, ding!! If you guessed that our “democracy spreading” was really geopolitical positioning for the last remaining large proven reserves of oil and gas on Earth, then you win the prize!
    Curiously, Mali is nowhere to be found on these lists, much less in the top 20. Perhaps that’s because more Americans, like many of you, are starting to question the reasons why we are spending so much money, that we don’t actually have, on benevolent democracy spreading when the domestic economy is going to hell in a handbasket.
    Hey, look! Mali has ZERO oil or gas and we’re helping THEM! [I mean, positioning ourselves near Algeria, Nigeria, Libya,…hey look, it’s an automatic weapon in John Birch’s hands!]
    Rant off.
    Tripp out.

  75. Rick January 14, 2013 at 4:42 pm #

    Hey Jim,
    I would tend to agree with you. Pretty good post too.
    Though, I have to say, at one point in my life I wanted to become a Director of Photography. But, now I’m glad that never happened. I now could care less about Hollywood, the movie biz, and I can’t stand celebrities, that includes the hack Tarantino.
    I haven’t been to see a movie in ages.

  76. asoka: January 14, 2013 at 4:43 pm #

    Read the books then. You’ll get more out of them without Tom Cruise getting in your way.
    And if you can, read them in Spanish.

  77. asoka: January 14, 2013 at 5:06 pm #

    If you’ve never heard Jim Willie this conversation is a must. It’s a bit long at 38 minutes but there’s much to consider here. The economy is a rigged game and the more people understand the better. Especially good info about the FEMA camps. Enjoy!

  78. shm January 14, 2013 at 5:14 pm #

    regarding zero dark mention of due process which already in itself qualifies the movie as a propaganda piece and supportive of torture. I would rather see people lifting a finger against these practices as I and others have done rather than being good little consumers or sanctimounsly harping or making money off being a critic of the times shm

  79. shm January 14, 2013 at 5:15 pm #

    regarding zero dark mention of due process which already in itself qualifies the movie as a propaganda piece and supportive of torture. I would rather see people lifting a finger against these practices as I and others have done rather than being good little consumers or sanctimounsly harping or making money off being a critic of the times shm

  80. scrubby January 14, 2013 at 5:47 pm #

    The assassination of Bin Laden as claimed by the Obama administration did not happen. It is an obvious propaganda myth. Therefore, Zero Dark Thirty is propaganda, pure and simple. I’m surprised that Jim continues to fall for any “news” coming out of Washington or any “film” coming out of Hollywood.

  81. k-dog January 14, 2013 at 5:47 pm #

    What I read a couple of days ago was that Islamic terrorists had seized Timbuktu and several other northern cities and that the French were going in with jets to help the local powers that be. Mali is a former french colony.
    United States Africa Command considers Islamic terrorists in Mali to be within their sphere of influence but need i drone on. France is an ally of washington. Remember Obama facilitated the downfall of that colorful character colonel Muammar Gaddafi by taking full control of the skies over Libya only two years ago. He wasn’t dragged through the streets behind a truck by accident. I’d have rather been Saddam.

  82. k-dog January 14, 2013 at 5:54 pm #

    Tagged and bagged.

  83. progress4conserving January 14, 2013 at 6:15 pm #

    Thanks for the movie reviews, JHK.
    You know spending a weekend like that will make a normal person go crazy, right?
    Glad it didn’t seem to hurt you.
    “What disturbed me about the movie was the sense that Tarantino has set the table for race war, like a jolly arsonist playing with matches and gasoline in a foreclosed house. He won a Golden Globe award for directing last night.” -jhk-
    Concur, JHK. I’m all about protecting 1st amendment rights – but, in the tense, multicultural, and overcrowded US of A, where does free speech become judged as, “Yelling fire in a crowded theater?”
    If Tarantino didn’t get on the wrong side of that line, it should be loudly judged that his leading man certainly did:
    “On a recent SNL show, Foxx jovially boasted, “I get free. I save my wife and I kill all the white people in the movie. How great is that?”
    -jamie foxx-
    On Saturday Night GODDAM’ Live??
    Imagine Foxx saying, “I get free. I save my wife and I kill all the Jewish people in the movie. How great is that?”
    I grow more concerned that we are living at a bizarre fulcrum point of history.

  84. Ixnei January 14, 2013 at 6:22 pm #

    Ole’ @$$-soker, *tongue-in-cheek*. Mastah Debatah, gotz crates of docketz from each side!!! I jest! ( tript)
    The actual problem here (conspiracy-*wize*) was that we went to war with Afghanistan, when we *KNEW* OBL whuz still in Pakistan, within 30 miles of where he received *state sanctioned* dialysis treatment on the day *before* 9/11, 2001…
    Movies? Hehe, that 1 in 10 prediction since ’90 seems ultra optimistic…

  85. San Jose Mom 51 January 14, 2013 at 6:30 pm #

    I’ve read all the Jack Reacher books. I’m not going to let the movie ruin my mental image of Reacher (a 40-year-old Clint Eastwood). Why did they cast Tom Cruise–he’s such a shrinky dink?
    In the books, Reacher is a tall, cool guy.

  86. Inquiring Mind January 14, 2013 at 6:35 pm #

    Tarantino is a creep. An introvert. A hack. A self-absorbed pervert. And, most importantly, he has no sense of social responsibility (which is actually the main attribute of a true artist). To add fuel to the fire he is arrogant and smug.
    Thank you for all of your gratuitous violence Tarantino. A great contribution to the impressionable youth of our nation. It’s movies like yours that are running through the minds of drugged mass murderers when they unleash their insanity on some sector of our country.
    The fact that Hollywood allows him to make pictures speaks for itself. Hollywood is scum and contributing to the dwindling spiral of civilization by allowing people like Tarantino to dramatize the sick, perverted concepts that lurk deep inside his warped psyche… and bring them to bear upon the undeserving public at large.
    I’m soooo glad that I am not a parent in this society.

  87. Jimmy Drinkwater January 14, 2013 at 7:12 pm #

    If Tarantino hadn’t made it with Pulp Fiction, he probably would have ended up in the porn industry, churning out ‘snuff’ films or something like that. He is a total crap artist.

    Precisely, a one trick pony. That someone like Tarantino is even considered a good film maker is indeed sign that the long emergency is well under way.

  88. insufferable January 14, 2013 at 7:18 pm #

    I love the movies. I recommend Impossible …a true story. It takes place in the 2004 tsunami. I recommend Possession. It involves the Brooklyn haasidic community and mysticism.
    Its all good.
    Have fun. Life is short. Beats the news. O one more thing. The Osama film is considered a fictional one in the genre of comedy!

  89. turkleton January 14, 2013 at 7:27 pm #

    “he has no sense of social responsibility (which is actually the main attribute of a true artist)”
    Yeah, I’m not so sure about this statement. Who determined that this is the function of an artist? Was it some kind of committee decision of which I wasn’t made aware?
    At any rate, who is and isn’t a “true artist” is one of these purely subjective assessments. Some think that a finger painting by a 3 year-old is the expression of a pure unimpeded artistic muse. Other people think dub step is music. To each his own, I suppose.

  90. turkleton January 14, 2013 at 7:30 pm #

    Eh, let’s not get all bent out of shape here. It is just one of those revenge fantasy movies. I wouldn’t read too much into it. I don’t really think his message is “Go out and kill all the white people.” He’s just using historical background to (loosely) to drive a typical plot device, which is the wronged hero seeking revenge against those who harmed him or those he loves. I haven’t seen it, but I doubt there’s any overall “message” he’s trying to promote about society in general, if his other films are an indication.

  91. k-dog January 14, 2013 at 7:34 pm #

    “he has no sense of social responsibility (which is actually the main attribute of a true artist)”
    Artist no, poser yes.

  92. k-dog January 14, 2013 at 7:38 pm #

    You guys are being unfair. If he made porn movies they would be really good.

  93. jerry January 14, 2013 at 7:39 pm #

    Frankly, I won’t go see either of those films, nor will I wait for them to come out on Netflix to view them.
    I did very much like Beast of the Southern Wild. The child actor was fantastic and should have won for best female actor. The film was superb.
    Argo was average and did not deserve any awards.
    I do believe that the award ceremony is hollow and I don’t watch it or any of the others, either.

  94. turkleton January 14, 2013 at 7:44 pm #

    Regardless of whatever names you want to call him, Tarantino has been very influential, in many different ways. So it is a stretch to call him a poser if a bunch of other people have copied his cinematic style. Artists are often measured by their effect on other practioners of their craft, so by that measure he’s definitely not just some hack.

  95. turkleton January 14, 2013 at 7:48 pm #

    Is that you, Alex Jones?

  96. turkleton January 14, 2013 at 7:50 pm #

    Hi, dale. Welcome back.

  97. Jimmy Drinkwater January 14, 2013 at 7:52 pm #

    I’d be curious to know who you think that is and I hope you’re not gonna say the “grindhouse” genre.

  98. k-dog January 14, 2013 at 7:57 pm #

    I’m not calling him a poser. He isn’t. Sorry to be unclear. I was concerning myself with the pure philosophical content of
    (which is actually the main attribute of a true artist)
    at face value.
    What frustrate me about him is that he could do so much more but he is stuck in the Hollywood bubble. Consequently, his work acquires a silly and trite aspect.

  99. k-dog January 14, 2013 at 8:00 pm #

    I’m a great fan of pulp fiction. In my own way I’m walking the earth like Jules.

  100. k-dog January 14, 2013 at 8:01 pm #

    Pulp Fiction

  101. turkleton January 14, 2013 at 8:01 pm #

    Ah, sorry, misread you there.

  102. Jam47 January 14, 2013 at 8:08 pm #

    Not going to comment on Michigan Native’s “coup de tat” mistake? I don’t speak French either, but “coup d’etat” is now virtually an English expression.

  103. ozone January 14, 2013 at 8:15 pm #

    I dunno ’bout that Tarantino guy, Jim. I see him as an extreme fantasist; sorta like, “Hey kids, let’s do lots of strong hallucinogenic drugs and film a comic book!”
    I enjoy his movies in that framework, and it seems to engender some uneasy giggles; is this how the FPS gamers show-and-tell about power and its’ use?
    Haven’t yet seen Django, his chains, his titanic miseries, or his gleeful revenge. Is it worth the big-screen treatment? Many times I wait for these “blockbusters” (hey! that’s a term for a large BOMB!) to get Netflix-erized so I don’t have to internal-combustion down to the Megaplex to view ’em. (Yes, I understand there are some movies that demand giant-screen viewing. No, [still]Birth of a Nation ain’t one of ’em.)
    As far as 0 dark firty, as others have indicated, fictional validation of widespread lies is still validation, and can lead to “truth creep”. I don’t approve, but I’ll view it with my usual propaganda filter in place, treating it as speculative fiction.
    My pick for a recently made film worth distributing? Bernie. The mockumentary style and some of the actual townspeople make it an engaging delight. East Texas Zeitgiest with an “Amen”! Yep, it really happened, and we call it, murder in the second degree…
    If you’re into the truly strange, the flourescent-lit Swedish frostiness of “Let the Right One In” should do ‘er. Do NOT confuse this with the inferior “Let Me In” remake. (Yes, you CAN read subtitles; you’re not that lazy, c’mon.)

  104. Jam47 January 14, 2013 at 8:43 pm #

    Right now, and for a couple of decades, the best American writer of violence-laden thrillers is Stephen Hunter.
    For vividness of scene, for compelling delineation of character, for authentic detail, he’s unbeatable.
    The other unbeatable, when it comes to thrillers that are mainly psychological, is Peter Abrahams.

  105. Inquiring Mind January 14, 2013 at 8:54 pm #

    I just watch documentaries via Netflix. Just watched the 10 DVD series “Jazz” by Ken Burns and that was excellent and informative.
    I’d rather eat dirt than go to the movies. Pay money to have my mind polluted with garbage by Tarantino? Subject myself to the neuroses of screenwriters, directors and actors? Even the supposed “well done films of substance” are totally based in unreality. Why watch films about unreal people doing unreal things? Why not just go out and deal with the real world and make your own life a great movie?
    No thanks, I’ll pass on Hollywood.
    Re: my comment that artists should have social responsibility was just my opinion. I am not saying that they do. But I’ve noticed throughout history that the artists that I consider were great (writers, architects, designers, musicians, painters, etc.) had a positive message for society, or pointed towards new future realities. And they helped to bring about positive change or reform in areas of society. Not much of that going on in our current age unfortunately. Personally I believe that artists, since they are in the public eye, should set good examples and be role models for our youth. Call me idealistic.

  106. asoka: January 14, 2013 at 9:12 pm #

    Did you read all the Jack Reacher books before or after you read “Eat, Pray, Love”?
    And were you able to discuss the Jack Reacher books in any depth with your local women’s reading group?

  107. asoka: January 14, 2013 at 9:18 pm #

    I’ll call you a Confucian. And I mean that as a compliment of the highest sort.

  108. Monkeyboy January 14, 2013 at 9:26 pm #

    OOOOOh! We HATE it when Jim goes to the movies.
    Thank god it doesn’t happen often, because you are much better at critiquing some aspects of suburbia then suburban distractions.
    The last time you went off on a movie tangent it had to do with Batman… at least that got linked to the burbs… but this.
    Two things Jim should not do … predict the (artificially preserved) Dow as some barometric indicator of the oil dip stick…
    And go to movies and write about the experience.
    Other than that, much respect!

  109. progress4conserving January 14, 2013 at 9:28 pm #

    “He’s just using historical background to (loosely) to drive a typical plot device, which is the wronged hero seeking revenge against those who harmed him or those he loves.”
    -turk, on taran-
    Yeah, I know that turk. But it still disturbs me (quite a bit, actually) that a few impressionable “urban youth” might seize upon Foxx’s racial hate to justify their depredations upon some of my geographically vulnerable (and lightly armed!) family members.
    On another note, altogether, this writer below gives some voice to some of the way I feel – after three decades of living my own environmentally conscious Zero Population Growth – only to now find the United States at an unsustainable 313 million due to immigration.*
    “A few months have passed since I let myself off the hook for being part of the solution. An emptiness exists where this big part of my identity used to be. But it feels good, too, to finally relax. It even feels possible to experience that rare peace called acceptance.
    If this is a sinking ship we’re on, I’m going to quit bailing for now, and take a seat on deck to enjoy the view.
    How are we going to trick our egocentric, tribal selves out of following our insatiable appetites over the cliff of our planet’s carrying capacity? I have no idea. But I’m pretty sure the answer will have nothing to do with me or David Suzuki.
    To presume otherwise would make me an environmentalist. And I’m done with that.”
    -lynn lau, in ottawa-
    *and that was a very thoughtful post on the nuances of your feelings on immigration, last week, turk.
    The US is overcrowded, already. That’s the bottom line. If we keep growing as the Chamber of Commerce desires (and as the asoka..shills shill) we mostly die, Turk.
    And we kill the planet for (worthwhile expression of?) human life. That’s the bottom line, as I see it.…

  110. progress4conserving January 14, 2013 at 9:34 pm #

    “If mass immigration policies are not changed, the U.S. population is expected to reach 618 million people by 2100, almost doubling our current population.
    “Pursuing environmentalism without addressing our ever-increasing population is an exercise in politically-correct futility,” states Cafaro. “If environmentalists refuse to engage with population issues, we are going to have to say goodbye to most of what we have worked to protect.”
    -ending quote from NumbersUSA link-

  111. San Jose Mom 51 January 14, 2013 at 9:57 pm #

    My love of Jack Reacher is not known to my tender-hearted group of Presbyterian readers.
    BTW, I read “Eat, Pray, Shoot Me.”

  112. Soul Pucker January 14, 2013 at 10:09 pm #

    What does asoka think about the movie “Django”?

  113. Kyooshtik January 14, 2013 at 10:29 pm #

    Naming all-time favorite movies is kind of a silly exercise….there have been so many movies and so many good ones.
    Anyway, here are some favorites:
    Raging Bull
    Rocky (the original)
    Quest for Fire
    Children of Men
    Raiders of the Lost Ark (original)
    The Godfather (original)
    I guess I’m not too original, huh?

  114. A Change in the Weather January 14, 2013 at 10:56 pm #

    Jim is an observer and critic of our culture, and these movies epitomize certain truths about it. I’m happy to follow his bouncing ball to see what bumpers light up. Go for it, Jim. Review more movies. They are the window into the American psyche.
    Someone mentioned that Tarantino would have ended up in porn if he hadn’t gotten lucky in “legitimate” film. Someone else mentioned he’s a pornmeister in any case. I’d go a step further: most popular entertainment is porn.
    Pop porn doesn’t necessarily involve sex. What it does, and what Tarantino is masterful at, is cloud the difference between empathy and vicariousness. It continually turns us to what it wants us to see–the “good stuff”–usually at the expense, if not the outright mockery, of coherence and insight.
    The plot, the characters, the setting, the “content” are all just a premise, a scrim, an aspic in which to embed the things that will shock and titillate. The whole purpose of pop porn is to breed the “cool” reaction noted above–to challenge people to rise above the assault on their senses or, more accurately, suppress their natural reactions to the verisimilitude of the action, the better to disparage those who cannot. Oh, it’s just a movie. Chill out.
    After a while, you do get numb. You don’t care. You separate. News, entertainment, ads, truth, fiction, games–meh, who cares? It’s all porn. It’s all got a base agenda. It’s all a goof. It all keeps us simultaneously bottled up inside our own sensory experience and watching ourselves, where we play with it like an infant plays with its pee-pee. It’s all designed to infantilize, to reduce us to narcissists, all the better to erode our capacity to discern the many shell games, quackeries, and outright frauds that Jim so piquantly writes about.
    And it works.

  115. turkleton January 14, 2013 at 10:58 pm #

    The connection between great art and social responsibility is generally pretty weak, if you define the former as abiding by and advocating accepted norms of behavior. As an example, Charlie Parker is considered by most critics and fans as the greatest jazz soloist of all time. He was also a degenerate gambler, liar, cheat, womanizer, chain smoker, alcoholic, and heroin addict. He even got banned from Birdland, a jazz club named after him, which if you think about it is quite an accomplishment. Yet you can’t deny when listening to his recordings that he’s a brilliant musician, and he changed jazz music forever. But as an example of how to live one’s personal life, he was a wretched failure whom one wouldn’t want to emulate, unless dying young is something which appeals to you.

  116. asoka.. January 14, 2013 at 11:07 pm #

    This is my first post today. All the previous Asoka: colon posts are by someone impersonating me, and doing a damn good job!
    I am Asoka.. dot dot, not Asoka: colon
    I have not seen Django. I do not plan to see Django.
    I do not condone violence against whites, even former slaveholders.
    I am, in the tradition of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Mahatma Gandhi, a pacifist. This has been my position for the last seven years on CFN, consistently. I have never advocated violence against anyone, and have no wish to see movies which glorify violence.
    Asoka.. dot dot

  117. progress4conserving January 14, 2013 at 11:08 pm #

    “Rocky (the original)”
    Yeah, the original “Rocky” was great. And the “Rocky” series got worse and worse.
    And, I’m not talking about the quality of the “acting.” I’m talking about the overall theme.
    You can see the problem more clearly in the “Rambo” series. The original “Rambo” is one of my favorites, too. Loosely, it’s the story of a crazy-ass Viet Nam vet raging by himself against oppressive government.
    By the last installment of the “Rambo” series, Sly Stallone is a ONE-MAN-ARMY-OF-THE-OPPRESSIVE-GOVERNEMNT.
    It’s damn depressing, to think about the progression of the series, from “Rambo:First Blood” to the end of the series at “Rambo IV.”
    Wiki has this to say about the first Rambo:
    “The film is notable for its portrayal of the psychological after-effects of the Vietnam War, particularly the challenges faced by American veterans attempting to re-integrate into society, something not deeply examined in subsequent Rambo movies.”
    “….not deeply examined…”
    Gee, ya’ think? No shit, wiki Sherlock!

  118. Donny-Don January 14, 2013 at 11:12 pm #

    Hey kids,
    I suggest that those of you who pride yourself on your “reality-based” assessments of the world take a few minutes to refresh your memory of JHK’s predictions for 2012, to see just how well those turned out:
    By my reckoning, JHK batted about .000. Check out some of his predictions:
    JHK prediction: Dow will drop to 4,000
    Reality: Dow rose to 13,000
    JHK prediction: “thousands of angry citizens will descend on the Tampa and Charlotte political conventions, and both parties will make the mistake of siccing the cops on the protestors.”
    Reality: The conventions came and went largely without massive social unrest.
    JHK prediction: “I have a nagging intimation that some third party candidate will emerge. The two personalities I keep seeing in that role are Howard Dean and Michael Bloomberg.”
    Reality: No third party got more than 1.5% of the presidential vote.
    JHK prediction: “The USA is diving into an economic depression that will make the 1930s look like a Busby Berkeley production number.”
    Reality: Maybe, but no sign of that yet.
    JHK prediction: “Don’t be surprised if some hostilities break out between Turkey and Iran.”
    Reality: They didn’t. Surprise.
    JHK prediction: The Dow will hit 1,000 in 2014.
    Reality: Well, I guess time will tell. But, man, I really, really doubt it. Because JHK has been so good at predicting this thing in the past …

  119. stelmosfire January 14, 2013 at 11:12 pm #

    Hey Q, You have some great movies there. Angel Heart,The Usual Suspects,Fargo. etc. etc. well I could continue. Anyway I broke a CFN taboo and bought a used 4×4 Polaris with a plow on it. Sorry, but it make my life easier in my retirement.Gas no problem . I have a storage tank. This is a bear 700 4×4 and will pull tree stumps. My CO2 footprint is actually small as I drive less than 2500 miles a year.

  120. turkleton January 14, 2013 at 11:13 pm #

    that a few impressionable “urban youth” might seize upon Foxx’s racial hate to justify their depredations upon some of my geographically vulnerable (and lightly armed!) family members
    That’s pretty far-fetched. People are so used to seeing extreme violence at the cinema these days that it will likely have little to no effect on them.
    Tarantino movies are mostly patronized by white hipsters, anyways. 😉

  121. turkleton January 14, 2013 at 11:14 pm #

    What about the eminently quotable Big Lebowski? A lot of Coen Brothers films would make my list. They’re very good at what they do. I also like Woody Allen quite a bit.

  122. turkleton January 14, 2013 at 11:15 pm #

    I agree, Don. JHK has a pretty wretched track record with the predictions.

  123. rocco January 14, 2013 at 11:29 pm #

    The noisy crowd with all their tech gear, comments,and 100 commericals, previews, blah,blah. I understand finally what Albert Camus
    meant by being nausea by society. The Big Lebowski a classic, and I saw ,”The Hobbit” a fun adventure just like the book. Fellow movie attendees complained it was tooo long and they were tired and wanted more explosions, and blood and guts. Oh well Governor Cuomo wants to limit or ban some guns, blah, and more blah.

  124. Kyooshtik January 14, 2013 at 11:32 pm #

    Almost forgot to mention…picked up two new words from the essay today:
    I have absolutely never heard either one before. Where the hell does Jim come up with these words?

  125. progress4conserving January 14, 2013 at 11:35 pm #

    let me take another run at this –
    I should have made the emphasis be:
    “By the end of the “Rambo” series, Stallone is a
    one-man-army OF the-oppressive-government.
    Viet Nam haunted the US. It haunts us still.
    You can see it in the “Rambo” progression – as we went from being tormented by ourselves and our ghosts – to cheering John Rambo IV: One Man Killing Machine of Gooks Everywhere.
    You could hear it as George BushI said, to no one in particular, at a press conference after Gulf War I – “By God, we’ve kicked the Vietnam syndrome once and for all!”
    Goddam’ those Bushes – for what they’ve done.
    Reagan, too, while we’re at it.
    Clinton was no prize, either.
    Obama is looking awful, too.
    It’s enough to make you miss Ford, Carter, Perot, or all those Kennedys.

  126. Kyooshtik January 14, 2013 at 11:44 pm #

    Angel Heart,The Usual Suspects,Fargo. etc. etc.
    Oh Yah, Fargo was great. So many great scenes. I loved when Steve Buscemi’s character makes it back to the house by the lake where his demented blond-haired henchman has been engrossed in some sappy soap opera on TV. Steve enters, a bloody mess, half his face shot off..he laughs and says “you should see the other guy.”

  127. xhalor January 15, 2013 at 1:21 am #

    Damn James. It’s like you are taunting…goading.
    Fine then. There are many scenes in “Pulp Fiction” I refer to almost daily. This is probably my favorite, especially since the clip is wrapped up by Harvey (The Wolf) Keitel. Only one of the greatest actors of All Fuckin’ Time. Kudos to whoever edited this clip. Here ’tis…

  128. asoka: January 15, 2013 at 1:47 am #

    If we’re going to make movie lists here are a few I’ve enjoyed that were well worth seeing… informative, or funny, or both
    The Aviator (Howard Hughes)
    My Cousin Vinnie
    Galaxy Quest
    Terminator I & II(especially II)
    Catch Me If You Can
    Seven Years In Tibet

  129. nameta9 January 15, 2013 at 3:09 am #

    Boredom may be a cultural artifact; probably other cultures, ancient, primitive, whatever, those that are not under the thumb of the clock, don’t even recognize boredom, it may be a totally alien feeling, or state of being for them. There is no concept of “Doing” or “Doing Something” or “Doing Nothing” and such as it is all related to the perception of the passage of time and such, and also related subtly to the Industrial Revolution (Work, Production, Manufacturing, Industry, Making Things, Doing Things, etc.), to something akin to the “Work Ethic” and such, or to something like “The Devil Loves Idle Hands”, hence doing nothing is a sin or something like that.
    A cat can do nothing all day long, is that a natural state ? Most animals do nothing 99 % of their lives, is that a natural state ? Yes, that is the natural state, even Apes and Man Like Animals do nothing and can do nothing 99 % of their lives, no problem, that is the natural state of affairs, there is nothing important to do for any life form, it is already completely achieved, it is a closed and finished product, its very existence is the final result, it just needs to follow a simple program of a few lines of code: find food and eat, crap, reproduce once in a blue moon if a mate is found, end of story.
    We instead are in an unnatural state of being Tortured by a Mind, by a culture, by a form of consciousness that is “Time Aware”, that must do, manipulate, by a constant unsatisfaction that will just generate ever more unsatisfaction by design, our mind is always thinking and doing, this is a totally unnatural and sick from of existence: we need to change how our mind works and is designed, or grow up in a completely different, very alien culture where all of these impulses are not present anymore…
    Re: What is boredom?
    Postby nameta9 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:31 am
    Kriswest wrote:Ok someone forgot to tell all 46 of our cats to do nothing along with all our dogs and goats. Where do you get quiet animals? I got rooked. 🙂
    Actually I had an interesting talk with our vet about it. Most people we know do have animals as you describe and there is a reason. It is socialization or rather interspecies socialization. The amount of different breeds and species along with an abnormal amount of alpha human attention creates curiosity and more learning. All the animals answer to their names, goats dogs and cats play together and will sleep together they even eat side by side at times.
    We have animals that get bored. If they get into a routine, then someting occurs in their behavior. Animal boredom becomes destructive often or they become ill. Our situation while uncommon is not unheard of.
    SO Man has tought other animals how to get bored and become evil and such as in “The Devil Loves Idle Hands”.
    Animals in a “Natural State”, (but no state is natural, all states are fake, a perversion, any state a Mind perceives becomes a perversion as soon as it becomes an entity within a consciousness…) not in the hugely artificial, fake, phony and perverted state of being just to be a monkey for man, an amusement for man, or making man feel so good since animals “don’t have a will power that opposes mine (hence man doesn’t really love animals but loves the power he has over animals and confuses this with the animals being nice and such), hence animals are better than man” and such stupid idiotic ideas people have. Animals, nay any lifeforms outside the “societies man creates for them” act in simple ways, don’t have any concept of boredom, are free from being influenced by man’s sick and tortured mind and logic and consciousness. Actually animals living like pets for Man acquire themselves consciousness and become Man Like but Man pretends that they are not so, in fact having animals is morally incorrect and such. I hate animals anyways, I hate any lifeforms and carbon chemistry anyways, Rocks and Dead Things are so much superior, to any life forms..
    You are referring to a completely artifical state of affairs and in such a state animals become similar to man with all of his crappy problems, ideas, and such (people talking to animals and such, so idiotic).
    Anyways animals and life and lifeforms are hugely overrated, doing nothing is always better than doing anything, we must learn to be 100 % idle, to be nothing at all, kill the clock, don’t be “Time Aware”, don’t be under the thumb of the clock, don’t be “Goal Aware” and “Target Aware”, don’t decompose existence into tasks, there are no task, there is no delimitation of existence from something or anything, free your mind instead…don’t be alive…
    And how dare you contradict me, I am always 100 % right, I am the Super God and win always no matter what: you suck.
    8 MAN
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    Re: What is boredom?
    Postby nameta9 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:58 am
    Wow, I must be bored a lot…
    Re: What is boredom?
    Postby dragon » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:13 pm
    Aum wrote:
    On a potentially related note, why is it that doing absolutely nothing is all but intolerable? I do not mean indulging in activities most would consider ‘doing nothing’ – ie sitting and watching movies or television, or playing video games, or reading a book/magazine, or listening to music – these all constitute doing something. Indeed, do we not indulge in many such activities precisely to ward off boredom?
    Bottom line: why do we get bored?
    If you need to ward off boredom there is something wrong with you.

  130. jeloughrey January 15, 2013 at 4:34 am #

    Jim, I can’t remember the last time I stepped foot into a movie theater. Except for the occasional documentary, I have no desire to seek out cinema as entertainment. I avoid viewing anything even remotely violent, as repeated exposure to violence leads to indifference. The tragic result is all too apparent in our gun-and-violence-centric culture. Aside from work, my days are mostly spent reading, listening to quality music, gardening and observing nature. Hollywood is just a metaphor for what an empty shell our society has become.

  131. stelmosfire January 15, 2013 at 7:01 am #

    Yea Turkle, The “Dude” had great lines. The Coens do make good films, I just grabbed “Miller’s Crossing” from the library. an older but fine movie, if you like the gangster stuff.

  132. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 7:13 am #

    Admittedly, Tarantino was tipping his hat to the Spaghetti Western Tradition, and in so doing, he incorporated a Cheese Factor. Tarantino was attempting to do many things with Django…..and Basterds, as well, and that’s where the “incoherent” criticism gets its validity. Either way, the best Spaghetti Western ever made was The Good, The Bad And The Ugly. Watch this ending and tell us Tuco’s dilemma isn’t metaphor for what Humankind is up against?
    Someone please tell us how killing Slavers is evil?

  133. HenryMorgan January 15, 2013 at 8:01 am #

    As long as we’re making movie lists:
    ‘Earth Versus the Flying Saucers’, starring Hugh Marlowe and Joan Taylor, 1956, is a must see. Check out the trailer on Youtube. “The most stirring screen experience of your lifetime”. Also, anything by Ed Wood, ‘specially ‘Planet 9 from Outer Space’. Now that’s a classic!

  134. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 8:31 am #

    Of course, we’d be remiss if we left out the epic Ben Hur. So many memorable quotes and scenes. This one comes to mind for its universal relevance.

    You have the spirit to fight back, but the good sense to control it. Your eyes are full of hate, 41. That’s good. Hate keeps a man alive. It gives him strength.

    Keep hatin, and live long, my friends.

  135. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 8:41 am #

    And let’s not forget this poignant scene.

    The Race Is Not Over; It Goes On

    Civilization has been the Long Emergency, and the race is not over. It goes on and on and on….like the Energizer Bunny, never seeming to end.

  136. HenryMorgan January 15, 2013 at 9:10 am #

    Will the choom gang be attending the inauguration? For old time sake. Teddy Roosevelts 1st Volunteer Infantry used to show up at all TRs events. Bill Ayers? Reverend Wright? As guests of honor? No? Or will they be in the background, pulling the strings? Maybe I can get some answers from CNN or MSNBC. What do you think?

  137. whitehunter January 15, 2013 at 9:15 am #

    “We’re here on Earth to fart around” – Kurt Vonnegut

  138. whitehunter January 15, 2013 at 9:25 am #

    For me, the most memorable line in Ben Hur is Pontius Pilate saying to Judah Ben-Hur, “A grown man knows the world he lives in, and for the present, the world is Rome.”

  139. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 9:27 am #

    I bet Samuel L. Jackson will be there, especially when you consider he played Obama in Django Unchained.
    I dare any of you to take Jackson up on his challenge and say Nigger.

  140. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 9:36 am #

    True that. Of course, this scene is revealing, as well. Now we know where Shrubya’s speech writers plucked that famous quote.
    Judah: No, I warn you – Rome is an affront to God! Rome is strangling my people and my country, the whole earth….forever. I tell you the day Rome falls, there will be a shout of freedom such as the world has never heard before.
    Messala: Judah, either you help me or you oppose me. You have no other choice. You are either for me or against me.

    Round and round we go. There is nothing new under the sun. Someone famous once said that.

  141. ozone January 15, 2013 at 10:10 am #

    You sez:
    “Ding, ding, ding!! If you guessed that our “democracy spreading” was really geopolitical positioning for the last remaining large proven reserves of oil and gas on Earth, then you win the prize!”
    Woo-hoo! Not only that, but I see lots more grist for the Hollywood mill in these machinations! (A real economy-booster, eh?)

  142. k-dog January 15, 2013 at 10:58 am #

    I’m Shutting Your Butt Down
    No connection between violence on the screen and real life. He says so.
    Quintin being an ass.

  143. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 11:04 am #

    Speaking of Cruise, remember his freak-out on the Oprah Show? For those who didn’t see it, here’s the clip.

  144. ozone January 15, 2013 at 11:04 am #

    Regarding the knock-on effect of becoming jaded (too kewl fer skewl):
    “After a while, you do get numb. You don’t care. You separate. News, entertainment, ads, truth, fiction, games–meh, who cares? It’s all porn. It’s all got a base agenda. It’s all a goof. It all keeps us simultaneously bottled up inside our own sensory experience and watching ourselves, where we play with it like an infant plays with its pee-pee. It’s all designed to infantilize, to reduce us to narcissists, all the better to erode our capacity to discern the many shell games, quackeries, and outright frauds that Jim so piquantly writes about.
    And it works.” -ACITW
    Now, I might object, and holler, “Whoa there, Silver, you’re galloping right down the rabbit hole with that!”, but I won’t.
    An inducement to defrauding oneself in order that the largest, earth-destroying frauds not be discovered (or even gazed upon)? Trenchant. As we can see, the rewards for these “entertainments” are gargantuan. Why would that necessarily be?
    (Tangentially, does anyone even think in terms of “making a living” anymore? How has this constant beating on uber-wealth as the end-all to be-all [throughout history] finally affected us as a species, drowned by the holders of this wealth. After all, they’re the final arbiters of our destinations and the vehicles in which we’ll get there.)

  145. newworld January 15, 2013 at 11:08 am #

    Bigelow just loves strong white men with courage. Quentin now that fuck is crazy, dont think I’ll go see Jango , none of the adults who actually have reviewed it have piqued my interest (tip most reviews are by child men trying to get laid by child like females so they sound like kids)
    But “Basterd’s”, Steve Sailer reviewed and concluded that Quentin loves Goebels and so out of curiousity I went to it, and Sailer was right. Not to excuse the Great Jew Hunt the Germans wasted their time on, but Quentin made them look good and the jews look incredibly stupid. And he has done the same with Blacks in Jango, he basically put the “Crazy Nigger” meme into film, and my WAG is that the evil white liberals up their rancid anti-white rhetoric to keep up.

  146. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 11:21 am #

    Disagree. Tarantino makes the Nazis and the Slave Owners look like a bunch of fools. He strips them of the reverence they’ve been given in most previous films that broach these subjects. Take the Klan scene in Django Unchained, for example. It was like something right out of Blazing Saddles. The theater howled with laughter….which made this film even more confusing and perplexing, because at other times, the tone was much more serious. Tarantino does this in all his movies, though. He mixes genres, so there is no apt category for his work. It’s best to view his creations as satire…and him as satire.

  147. ozone January 15, 2013 at 11:22 am #

    I dunno where JHK snags these bon mots, but I enjoy them as well. I kinda hope they’re picked up in passing conversation; wouldn’t that be nice for a change?
    …And when ass-choker, the king of lookoverhere-no-lookoverhere! insists that reading a novel written in English in translated Spanish provides more nuance, I gotta call: “total bullshit”.
    Ya don’t get more nuance with a language that has half the vocabulary to express oneself with; what you get is more GUESSING. (Sheesh, some of these pronouncements are in the realm of the ridiculous!)

  148. JerryKNY January 15, 2013 at 11:23 am #

    Tarintino does not deserve an award for directing. His movies are violient porn with a disrespective for humanity. What he makes is not art. It is a reflction of his own perverted outlook on life which sad to say many people share. Our society is filled with these violent porn movies with scene after scene of murder. If the film has no intrinsic historical value than the pupose was only to provide more of this filth into an already morally vanquished industry called Hollywood. Tarintino is the poster child of the fiflth that comes out of there that is why they gave him the award.

  149. k-dog January 15, 2013 at 11:47 am #

    Does there have to be any oil in a landlocked country jammed into Sahara desert devoid of resources and which was one third slaves only a hundred years ago?
    Maybe the muscle flexing in Egypt, Libya, Syria, Gaza has something to do with the intervention. Perhaps it’s a good time to remind everyone who owns the vacant sands and who doesn’t? All that’s missing is a beach, there is plenty of sand and lots of ninety pound weaklings.
    Drone sales are up and if a few camel jockeys get smoked its good for business and nobody here cares. If the militant tribesmen were real people perhaps we would be interested in why are they doing what they are doing but as far as most are concerned they aren’t real people and we don’t ask. Instead we simply label them as Islamic terrorists and be done with it. Calling them Al Qaeda is even better. That phrase kills the mind instantly.
    Perhaps there is a real political cause driving the troubles or perhaps the militant tribesmen are really godless Al Qaeda barbarians. I’m sure we’ll never know which, be certain of that. Not to many Mericans care if the gates of the temple of Janus are permanently welded wide open unless it directly affects them personally.
    If asked most will just say ‘nothing I can do about it’.
    I laud your attempt to find a reasonable explanation for the aggression. You may be right on target but I’m saying there doesn’t have to be a reasonable explanation at all. Not these days.
    As you read this somebody in Mali is ‘right on target’. Bet on it.

    Population: 15,839,538
    GDP: 10.59 billion
    Religion: 90% Muslim

  150. Kyooshtik January 15, 2013 at 12:18 pm #

    …And when ass-choker, the king of lookoverhere-no-lookoverhere! insists that reading a novel written in English in translated Spanish provides more nuance, I gotta call: “total bullshit”.
    Keep in mind Oz that this particular Ass-choker was colon not dot dot. I totally agree with your point though.

  151. progress4conserving January 15, 2013 at 12:27 pm #

    K, here’s a different look at the French intervention in Mali, argued from the perspective that the US is being forced by time and circumstance to reduce its global involvement.
    Avoiding the Wars That Never End is republished with permission of Stratfor.”
    “The two events are linked in a way that transcends the issue of Islamist insurgency and points to a larger geopolitical shift. The United States is not just drawing down its combat commitments; it is moving away from the view that it has the primary responsibility for trying to manage the world on behalf of itself, the Europeans and its other allies. Instead, that burden is shifting to those who have immediate interests involved.”

  152. progress4conserving January 15, 2013 at 12:38 pm #

    Ass choker of the single colon VS
    Ass choker of the two periods
    -k/q and o3-
    I thought the original “:” clone was an effort of some regular poster to satirize “..” (aka “It” tm:ozone) early in the week, to the point that the”../It” became irrelevant to new posters to CFN.
    Now, though, “:” seems to be adopting the views of “..” for real. Which is strange to think about, though interesting to watch.
    Meanwhile, there hasn’t been any chinese spam, as of yet. And that thing about inactive animals and sleeping cats that 8M posted was actually quite interesting.
    There may be life in this CFN thread, yet.

  153. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 12:39 pm #

    The United States is not just drawing down its combat commitments; it is moving away from the view that it has the primary responsibility for trying to manage the world on behalf of itself, the Europeans and its other allies. Instead, that burden is shifting to those who have immediate interests involved.
    Not buying it, but even if this was the case, the next logical step would be to reduce the military budget by 80%, right?
    More than likely, it’s a matter of saving itself for that much larger conflagration to come…you know, the one that’s now visible on the horizon.
    And you have to love the word used to describe Imperialism. “That Burden.” Hilarious. Woe is me. Yet another faraway land to conquer and tons of profits from stolen resources and munitions/equipment sales by defense contractors.
    Stratfor is illegitimate.

  154. ozone January 15, 2013 at 1:19 pm #

    “More than likely, it’s a matter of [the military] saving itself for that much larger conflagration to come…you know, the one that’s now visible on the horizon.” -CW
    Could you be thinking of the [very final] war betwixt the believers in infinite growth (the “Capital Suiciders”) and the desperate multitudes, perhaps? Who knows, perhaps “That Burden” (a gentle, benevolent caretaking of the Earth and the careful husbanding of its’ resources) will be lifted from the shoulders of the industrial killers, at long last.
    How does one build a Quentin Tarentino, BTW?

  155. ozone January 15, 2013 at 1:31 pm #

    Apologies to you and P4C for referencing the wrong impacted turd (ass-choker).
    I find it interesting that it is indeed becoming a parody of itself, regardless of the incarnation.
    This is an improvement, and blunts its’ diversionary position as both inciter and persuader.
    ((Notice the sudden shift to all things “progressive”-talking-points. A feeble attempt at relevancy.)

  156. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 1:40 pm #

    How does one build a Quentin Tarentino, BTW?

    Take one Italian male and mix it thoroughly with one Irish/Cherokee female. Place the bun in the oven and let bake for nine months before removing it and placing it in a violent world.
    By the way, it’s Tarantino, not Tarentino.

  157. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 1:42 pm #

    So now the truth is out about the second amendment. It must be the truth because it comes from a source that has the word “truth” in its title.

    The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says “State” instead of “Country” (the Framers knew the difference – see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia’s vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that . . . and we all should be too.

  158. ozone January 15, 2013 at 1:53 pm #

    Thanks on both counts.
    Gotta git…
    Keep yer powder dry.

  159. owenmeany January 15, 2013 at 1:55 pm #

    Did no one see “Silver Lining Playbook?” I was moved in all directions by this film. An examination of all the pent-up anger, denial, isolation, sorrow and regret,we Americans are experiencing…with an occasional joyous laugh.

  160. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 2:06 pm #

    Didn’t know anything about it, nor even heard of it. Thanks for the suggestion. Will wait for it to come out on Netflix. Read the reviews, and it looks like an excellent movie.

  161. Mike Hunt January 15, 2013 at 2:20 pm #

    “As if you could kill time without injuring eternity.”
    – Henry David Thoreau

  162. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 2:26 pm #

    Truly vile even for you. The 2nd Ammendment is an affirmation of the ordinary man’s right to be a man, to defend himself and his family. And when necessary, to organize and defend his State and/or Nation.
    You should be deported just like Piers Morgan. And no, if you aren’t a citizen, you don’t have any 1st Ammendment Rights.
    Ozone, are you going to let him get away with this Statist crap?
    Btw Collapse, many of the Founders were against slavery – they knew it was a terrible way to start a Nation. How right they were.

  163. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 2:32 pm #

    Yes the Jews control Hollywood and have ever since its early days. Walt Disney tried to warn us but nobody listened. Ten Commandments was a masterpiece of propaganda – as if the Jews weren’t a slave owning society. They were against slavery – for Jews. As you say, they haven’t changed, still doing the “do as I say not as I do” tango.

  164. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 2:39 pm #

    Yes Quest for the Fire was great. So inspiring to see Proto White Men figthing other lesser breeds of sub men – and the primitive types in their own tribe even.
    And the more advanced Tribe the encountered was just Ok. It was obvious that our Tribe was destined to surpass them…
    Good list of action movies. It must have been a torment to you to spend you life behind a desk. If you had born a hundred years ago or a hundred years from now, you could have spent your life huntin’ and fishin’ instead of looking at little lines on trees slaughtered for their pulp.

  165. jonathanss. January 15, 2013 at 2:39 pm #

    The 2nd Ammendment (sp?) is an affirmation of the ordinary man’s right to be a man…

    If you need the affirmation of cold steel in your hand it must be to compensate for some inadequacy. What is it? Fat, overweight, old, can’t attract females, not breast fed?

  166. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 2:45 pm #

    The real Mystery: were these huge brained Aristocrats aliens or just our natural ruling class? All over the world, parents used to deform the skulls of their babies trying to make them look like these Royalty. Discovery Channel among others reconstructed the face of Tut and Nefertiti – ignoring the huge back of their head which gave them a brain over 2000 cc in size.

  167. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 2:51 pm #

    Good twisting of my post. But nevertheless, a man has the right to be armed even if he was breast fed. Sorry Freud was wrong: everything isn’t about sex. Marx was wrong too: everything isn’t about economics. Jews are good at being wrong – assuming they really believe their own preaching that is. They don’t seem to though: teachers in Israel are armed after all.
    And all the crap about the Authoritarian Personality, and putting the West on the Couch, and developing our Individuality – all of this was just to weaken us.
    Freud said his Task was to make the West doubt itself. He succeeded. His favorite historical figure was Hannibal and he thought it was a tragedy that Europe wasn’t conquered by the Semites.

  168. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 2:57 pm #

    How could we have overlooked In The Heat of The Night? Hey Radu Endicott, Mr. Tibbs would like a word with you.

  169. Rhino January 15, 2013 at 3:08 pm #

    Holy old christ. Here we have an intellectual issuing a clear and unequivocal condemnation of personal conduct. Conduct unbecoming. A matter of propriety. Decency as it were. It seems that I’ve offended some highly refined sensibilities.
    I am flabbergasted. I thought the intellectual m.o. was to take similar issues of behavior, tap dance until the cows come home, deploy flotillas of incomprehensible jargon, employ reasoning that travels in ever widening circles and come to no discernable conclusion, intelligibility being the enemy of the highly learned.
    With one exception. I thought that such moral assuredness was used only against caucasian Republicans of a religious bent. Silly me. But geez Buck, I’m a foreigner of highly suspect race and ethnicity and therefore of intellect. Not an American let alone a republican. Doesn’t that count? Surely owed some slack here at least in the eyes of the American liberal intellectual elite. No?
    But never mind. My unfinished business from last week was with one of this site’s most vocal racists.
    Or maybe you think of race as a topic as beyond the pale, not fit for polite discussion. Maybe you think that movie reviews take precedence. OK, tell you what Buck, from my perspective as an outsider, the US of A looks as if it has festering underneath it a powder keg of racial animosity. Not just anti-white hate from Blacks or anti-white hate from Whites, or anti-white hate from Hispanics all of which is fine, just fine in the politically correct estimation of academic elites. But also anti-Black hate (or at least disdain and contempt) from whites. Which from the perspective of egg-shell walking, politically correct liberal academic types is not OK.
    Want some advice Buck? You not only have a powder keg but you have match throwers in your midst. And Radu isn’t the only one. Better muck it all out and deal with it. That’s my advice and that’s my justification for so rudely ignoring JHKs topic of the week. Don’t like it? Tough shit Buck I really don’t care.
    Now having said all that I did do a screed in line with JHK’s topic.

  170. Kyooshtik January 15, 2013 at 3:11 pm #

    Yes Quest for the Fire was great.
    I believe it was 3 or 4 years ago I pointed out to you that there is no “the” in the title of this movie. It’s just plain ol’ Quest for Fire.
    Being a bean counter/financial analyst fits my nature to a T although I was heavily into fishing as a kid. And I am a more than decent self-taught builder of things too (if I say so myself). I enjoy doing physical labor unto a state of exhaustion then standing back with great self-satisfaction admiring my handiwork.

  171. Rhino January 15, 2013 at 3:13 pm #

    … the assiduous Bigalow laying out the very serious business of capable adults engaging with a world that consistently terrifies and disappoints. – JHK
    Of course she didn’t win an Oscar. Never mind that maybe there were better directors but even if she had stood head and shoulders over the rest she would never have won.
    This Bigelow. Damn her and damn her movie.
    Violence? Never mind, Hollywood’s OK with that. Death? No problemo, Hollywood is okey-dokey with that too. Depictions of highly trained people diligently and sometimes brutally tracking down and greasing a shitsack jihadi? OK now we’re getting too close to the line.
    Hollywood is about money and ego and the means to acquiring the former and stroking the latter just happens to be through movie making. And Hollywood is famously liberal. The way I see it liberalism in action is first and foremost all about doing whatever the fuck you want to whoever you want and screw the consequences and Hollywood people are all about that.
    Too close to the line? Liberalism is also all about taking a hostile stance against the USA. You might ask why this is. I wouldn’t know and neither do they. Liberals just do it. Liberals all do it because other liberals all do it and they all figure that someone else has it all figured out. But the possibility that none of them have? None of them thought of that. Doesn’t matter.
    In any case, there was no hand wringing liberal advocacy in the movie, no finger pointing, no Blame America First. As JHK said, “Critics have objected to the movie’s lack of a moral position about these brutal activities”.
    So Bigelow failed, failed, failed, failed. Failed big time. This depiction of “very serious adults” killing a sworn enemy of America and the Western world is not enough, not by a long shot. Oh, and depictions of enhanced interrogation, of making jihadis squeak. All this needs to be framed properly, “properly” meaning putting the USA in the worst possible light ie the way that right thinking liberals see it.
    Because every true liberal knows in his very marrow that America the Evil is directly responsible for 9/11 if not in the planning and implementation and carrying out then for setting the stage via its malign foreign policy and if not that then because the US intervened in the Soviet-Afghan War by aiding mujahedeen. Or something.
    And the hippest all knew that this would lead to “blowback”. We know that they knew because they tell us in their most resigned, world weary way that all liberals affect. Hollywood actors, being actors, have it down. “Blowback”, yes.
    Never mind that nobody, least of all any Hollywood type, has ever recounted how “blowback” actually works. At least not to my knowledge. Hmm, let’s see, you have a whole bunch of Americans risk their lives to go to some of the worst shitholes on the planet, bringing arms and supplies to aid people that are the enemy of your enemy and help these miserable, grief stricken, illiterate peasants chase away a massively armed and equipped Soviet invader that killed more than a million of their fellow countrymen including clan and family.
    And then you get “blowback”. Defined I guess as an attack on those that helped you. It just follows. Don’t you see? Actually, no I don’t see. Do you get how this works? Because I don’t. I’m missing something. Maybe some addled Hollywood starlet or director can explain it.
    A question: whose heads would Osama and Ayman rather have had? Who is enemy number one to jihadists? Blue suited American bankers? Or Hollywood movies and their portrayal of licentious American life and American broads cavorting in skimpy dress?
    So Bin Laden whacked the Twin Towers. But I’m betting that this was done because it was an easily gotten to, spectacular, easily whackable target with a high potential body count. Much harder to whack Hollywoood and get the same results. I mean, where do you whack? A movie set? Maybe the Academy Awards dinner? Rodeo Drive? Beats me.
    Just guessing here but I’ll bet that, if they had a choice, the heads of a bunch of Hollywood stars that everyone knows would have suited al Qaeda much better than the heads of bankers and lawyers that nobody knows. Maybe Hollywood glitterati for the sake of their collective self interest ought to consider the possibility.

  172. Rhino January 15, 2013 at 3:18 pm #

    How about “The Hustler”? Just saw it again for about the 40th time. I think it’s a stellar movie. Really left an impression.
    And Casablanca? Another great one. I just love the gleefully amoral Captain Renault and the ruthlessly self interested Rick (or so it seemed). And the glowering, jaw jutting Major Strasser as the picture of cold blooded Teutonic efficiency. When it was screened in 1943 the Nazis looked as if they might win. And so in the scene where Victor Laszlo strikes up the band in a stirring rendition of la Marseillaise square men would weep in the theaters. Not a dry eye in the house.

  173. Confusionism January 15, 2013 at 3:23 pm #

    “The 2nd Ammendment is an affirmation of the ordinary man’s right to be a man”
    So I guess the 2nd Ammendment doesn’t apply to women?
    “And no, if you aren’t a citizen, you don’t have any 1st Ammendment Rights.”
    Ironic, Vlad, how you attack Collapse’s interpretation of the 2nd Amm. by giving your own of the 1st.
    “Btw Collapse, many of the Founders were against slavery.”
    And many were not (Washington, Jefferson and even Franklin before he started the Philadelphia anti-slavery group, to name a few). What’s your fucking point.

  174. Rhino January 15, 2013 at 3:34 pm #

    “Of course she didn’t win an Oscar.”
    Oops, I meant Golden Globe. It’s old age biting.

  175. Zed Leppt In January 15, 2013 at 3:56 pm #

    What a dismal experience it is to take in a movie in one of those tawdry, soulless multiplex theaters with their crappy creaking seats, terminally bored staff, depressingly ugly decor, and worst of all, the god-awful deafening sound systems. I’ve noticed a steady increase in theater sound levels over the years, and not just because more things are exploding in today’s film fare. Everything is pumped up with tinnitus-inducing overkill. The preshow trailers seem to be the loudest of the whole experience, what with every sentence uttered by the deep bass voice-over punctuated by a pounding sledge hammer-like sound effect. “In a world where blah, blah. #KRANGGGG!# Where all hope has been etc, etc. #KRANGGG!!# One woman dared to yada, yada. #KRANGGG!!!#” Aye-ee, my eardrums are bleeding!
    Maybe the extreme audio settings are for the best since quiet interludes would only highlight the obnoxious munching, crunching, slurping, burping, and cellophane crackling amonst the audience. Watch these characters when they are in a state of movie flicker-induced auto-gluttonosis, reflexively mashing fistfulls of popcorn into their gaping maws or sucking their bucket-sized sodas dry and still gurgling away on the ice cube dregs. And what a joy to have the thrifty patron who brings his own bag of chips to the show sitting behind you – crackle, crackle, crunch, crunch – delightful! Also the evening wouldn’t be complete without he guy who’s seen the film already and has to give his girl friend a running commentary on what is about to happen in each scene, “Oh, watch this, the priest is gonna get impaled by a garden gnome. Tee hee.” Maybe it’s the shitty venue that encourages ill behavior.
    I miss the grand old movie palaces that made the experience a special occassion: The ornate woodwork, ceiling murals high overhead with a chandelier in the center, tasteful lighting, comfy velvet seats, and the beautifully trimmed red velvet curtain that would gacefully sweep open as the film started rolling. You got a sense of the theater itself respecting the art that it was showcasing. Few of these grand old venues remain today. In Jim’s “The Geography of Nowhere” I believe he discussed one of these beautiful old buildings in Detroit that had been gutted and incorporated into a parking garage. A photo showed the sad remnants of the once opulent curved ceiling amid flat gray slabs of concrete, cars parked where once there was a gem of American architecture and interior design.
    Today’s multiplex movie theaters are best left to the teenagers who seem to be perfectly atuned to immersion in multiple simultaneous distractions and able to blithely disregard their cretinous cohorts and miserable surroundings, even in revel the experience. Maybe that’s why most of Hollywood’s output lately seems targeted primarily at the pimple-faced set. Why put up with the aggravation when the DVDs are released so soon after the films? The popcorn at home is cheaper and you can yell and at those talentless overpaid hacks on screen all you like when the film is a stinker.

  176. anti soak January 15, 2013 at 4:04 pm #

    Did you help TT build cob houses?
    What happened with that plan?

  177. San Jose Mom 51 January 15, 2013 at 4:05 pm #

    Movies I like include The Godfather, Patton, 2001 Space Odyssey, The Piano, Revenge of the Nerds, and Das Boot.
    Movies I hate include Saturday Night Fever, Eyes Wide Shut, and any movie with Barbra Streisand.

  178. anti soak January 15, 2013 at 4:06 pm #

    How did you connect that petition with Lord Asoka?
    And how did you find the petition?

  179. San Jose Mom 51 January 15, 2013 at 4:08 pm #

    You forgot my theater pet peeve…..sticky floors.

  180. anti soak January 15, 2013 at 4:10 pm #

    Szasz and others warned [too late] that Psychiatry
    is bunk, net negative.
    But huge money in it.
    Thomas Szasz, 1920–2012 – Psychiatric Times › Home › Blogs › Pies
    Sep 11, 2012 – Dr Thomas Szasz dies at 92. … surely marks the end of an era in the history of psychiatry, and many will miss Tom’s role as Socratic “gadfly.”

  181. anti soak January 15, 2013 at 4:15 pm #

    There’s no minimizing the spectacular achievements of people from northern Europe especially the Brits. Where do people want to immigrate to? The UK, the US, Australia, Canada.
    And the 1% is all to eager to help them do so.
    Refugee status determined by the UN.
    Let US taxpayers give SSI and housing, EBT to ‘refugees’.
    And the refugees are never White Christian.
    However Brits are from 1 of 6 countries that cant
    participate in US green card lottery.
    States that sponsor terrorism, sure…but White Brits, no.

  182. anti soak January 15, 2013 at 4:19 pm #

    I am, in the tradition of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Mahatma Gandhi, a pacifist………..
    Bravo Asoka, Bravo.

  183. anti soak January 15, 2013 at 4:21 pm #


  184. Kyooshtik January 15, 2013 at 5:01 pm #

    How about “The Hustler”?
    How could I have forgotten The Hustler? It came out in Sept ’61 (I checked Google) when I was 20 and six years into my lifelong obsession with pool.
    I was commuting* to St. Joe’s College on the western edge of Philly at the time and on the way home would stop off at one of two pool rooms: Earl Newby’s (one flight below ground level) at 10th and Chestnut or the famous Allinger’s Billiard Academy (one long flight up from the ground floor of Market St. See link below.) Perhaps because pool rooms didn’t require prime space with display windows at ground level they were usually a flight up. The scene of the action in The Hustler was just such a place. Jackie Gleason was a genuine first rate pool player capable of running 50 or more balls.
    I attended the movie’s opening night at a huge old theatre in Philly and when it ended and the lights came up I looked around and there, like a reunion, was every pool player and would-be hustler in the region… Joe Cadillac, Fat Ira Fisher (bail bondsman), Dick “Ice Cream” Alrich, Mark the Shark…The Hustler was an accurate depiction of that world.
    * For a time I carpooled with two guys, one of whom was the son of Willie Mosconi. No lie. Oddly, we never played a game of pool together. Willie Mosconi had a brief cameo role in The Hustler. He racked the balls in one scene.

  185. k-dog January 15, 2013 at 5:05 pm #

    Tarantino is content to be wildly wrong about just about everything. Or rather, the details don’t matter as long as the fantasy satisfies portions of the brain where ideas are not processed.

    The colored transparent plastic movie marquee letters in Inglorious Bastards drove me crazy. My understanding of things is that at the outbreak of the WWII only one single company made clear plastic of the type from which the movie marquee letters in the film could have been made. The plastic was vital for use in aircraft cockpits and so that both the Army Air Force and the Luftwaffe would have access to the plastic with the commencement of hostilities this single company was split in two.
    The art of adding color to the plastic I suspect happened after the war was over. Car bumpers were made of wood to save steel and chrome then so I don’t think many chemists were blending color into plastic which must be done carefully on a batch basis back then. I imagine the chemists were working on more important things, like the war effort.
    The German company still exists and the best clear optical grade acrylic still comes from them.
    It made me want to chew a carpet.

  186. Zed Leppt In January 15, 2013 at 5:21 pm #

    One my favorite films is “Network”. The cast was outstanding and Paddy Chayefsky’s screenplay was full of sharp, witty dialogue. Peter Finch gave an unforgettable performance as the deranged “mad as hell” news anchorman Howard Beale. Made in 1975, this film was so precient in depicting news programming degrading into a three-ring circus complete with a Vox Populi segment for the average citizen’s point of view. Hey, that’s the Kunslter blog to a tee. The story also pointed out the dangers of large corporations gaining control of TV news programs. “When the 12th largest corporation in the world gets its hands on the most powerful goddamn force in the whole godless universe, there’s no telling what shit they’ll peddle as truth on this network” rants Beale at his audience. High on the success of their “mad prophet of the airwaves” show, the network expands into a reality show in which a contract is drawn up with a terrorist organisation for film footage of the group’s reallife criminal activities. Sounds a lot like today’s “embedded” journalists. Then there is the total passivity of the audience: they like Beale’s presentation style and will gladly parrot his revolutionary slogans or send protest letters at his behest without any real conviction in the underlying morality of the cause, kind of like Stephen Colbert fans. The closest modern day analog I can think of for Howard Beale would be Glen Beck, as close to a raving, conspiracy obsessed lunatic as ever appeared on the boob tube. Beale’s schtick was to faint on stage, Beck weeps like a baby. Ned Beatty played the charming, fatherly company CEO with a rather sinister philosophy of universal corporate control over every aspect of the lives of the citizenry. I think there are CEOs today who take that philosophy as gospell. Faye Dunaway and Robert Duvall are a pair of corporate toadies who are so cynical that they decide to have Beale assissinated in the middle of his show when his ratings plummet – haven’t seen that one yet in real life, but just wait.

  187. Confusionism January 15, 2013 at 5:31 pm #

    “I miss the grand old movie palaces that made the experience a special occassion: The ornate woodwork, ceiling murals high overhead with a chandelier in the center, tasteful lighting, comfy velvet seats, and the beautifully trimmed red velvet curtain that would gacefully sweep open as the film started rolling. You got a sense of the theater itself respecting the art that it was showcasing.”
    We have one of those here in the Tampa Bay Area, Tampa Theatre. It’s a beautiful theater with most of those things you describe, plus a pipe organ that rises from under the stage. It’s one drawback is that comfort is not on the agenda; the seats are old and there is little leg room. Still, it is a Tampa treasure.

  188. Zed Leppt In January 15, 2013 at 6:10 pm #

    ” Willie Mosconi had a brief cameo role in The Hustler. ”
    And in a totally unrelated sense, “Hustler” publisher Larry Flynt appeared in his own biopic as the judge who convicted him in real life on obscenity charges.

  189. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 6:12 pm #

    The real Crocodile Dundee: killed by Australian gun grabbing Police.

  190. Kyooshtik January 15, 2013 at 6:19 pm #

    It’s one drawback is …
    Counterintuitively, the possessive for it is its…no apostrophe. It’s is the contraction of it is.
    I’m sure you’re glad to have me inform you of that, right? ;o)

  191. Buck's A Stud January 15, 2013 at 6:19 pm #

    LOL! When a commentator, who posts as frequently as you do takes a day to respond, well, I must have thrown you off stride. Sorry to come off rude, and dare I say, insensitive.
    But to borrow a bit from the stereotype school of Vlud Ravu, hyper-emotionality was always the Achilles heel of Southern Italian Man, and it shows.
    Having said all that, I have been enjoying your sparring with Vlad and Asoka immensely; you’re no intellectual lightweight, that’s for sure.

  192. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 6:21 pm #

    Yes Babs is the ultimate JAP. She owns an extensive Beach front estate in California. She went ape shit was a plane flew over once or twice. It was explained to her that it was part of an Enviromental survey of some kind. She didn’t care, she wanted it stopped.
    Liza Minnelli is better. She beat up the little guy she married though.

  193. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 6:27 pm #

    Bravo Buck, Bravo. And I don’t mind the Italinazation of my name that much. After all, we should be pronouncing Don Juan as Don Jewan. That’s how it used to be said before we lost our culture, and the word Oriental (the impression the East makes on a Westerner) became verboten.
    Mussolini’s last words before being killed: I tried but you all were too Italian and not enough Roman.

  194. Buck's A Stud January 15, 2013 at 6:27 pm #

    Speaking of movies, they just don’t do seductive erotica(inferred) like this anymore. In fact, I doubt there is an actress around today who approach the heights that Faye Dunaway scaled in this scene:

  195. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 6:59 pm #

    Men includes Women. Why are you so pissy? Male Menopause? What’s my point? What’s your point – the point of your existence that is?
    Guns created America and without them, we become slaves and easy pickings for the Barbarians and U.N troops – even if wearing American Uniforms.
    And aliens don’t have First Ammendment Rights, certainly not the right to sedition.

  196. Collapse Watch January 15, 2013 at 7:18 pm #

    Another great one we’ve neglected to mention. Deliverance. That inbred white boy should could play a mean banjo. Nothing’s going to deliver us from what’s a comin. The only way past it, if that’s even possible, is straight through it.

  197. jonathanss. January 15, 2013 at 7:28 pm #

    Your off on some tangent. I can’t figure out where you are going with this.

  198. Game over, man January 15, 2013 at 7:49 pm #

    I usually bail when the racist dipshits check in but this post was worth wading through the slime. WELL said ! Tripp. The Mali crap is a red herring right out of Langley.
    Oil is the objective … and that would have been a worthy place for the discusion to go. Unlike much of the jew baiting hateful crap Jim lets go on here. Heaven forbid we attract people here for truth.
    If ever there was a blog that says “the peak oil crowd is batshit crazy” this is IT. So thanks for that Jim. A real public service you have here. And I told your little local bookstore that was my LAST purchase from them till you clean this pernicious hate shop up. You are not driving business their way. Quite the contrary, as i apologized to them. Do you really want them saddled with this god awful tripe?
    Nice books, witty critiques from the sidelines but otherwise an utter cesspool of a blog. Tripp is one of a couple of undigested corn kernels in this septic tank.
    As part of the bizzare slideshow into collapse it’s sort of like the Gong Show. Maybe John Waters should moderate. He is probably with the CIA too …

  199. k-dog January 15, 2013 at 9:06 pm #

    If anyone needs an MP3 to listen to I found a good one.
    This guy is know as the antichrist of silicon valley.
    A quote from a book he wrote:
    “For these Generation Y utopians,” he writes, “every posting is just another person’s version of the truth; every fiction is just another person’s version of the facts.”
    A bombastic bulldog who is not afraid to look in the mirror himself. Appropriate this week, he’s someone critical of contemporary media culture and worth listening to. I won’t be pushing everyone I hear in this little radio series I found but this is one dog who will have it all right if he can just figure out he already is one good dog.
    Loved what he said about Ray Kurzweil in the interview.

  200. Jam47 January 15, 2013 at 9:07 pm #

    Ben Hur would certainly be on my list of Hollywood’s fifty best movies. And it’s far and away the best of that slew of fifties films that Hollywood made to sell Christianity and to sell to Christians. But I think it runs out of steam after Stephen Boyd dies. Then it becomes kind of treacly and preachy.
    And the bit of homosexual subversiveness that the screenwriters Gore Vidal and Christopher Fry slyly put into the plot is plain to see–once you know it’s there. They did as a joke. Vidal, after all, had no use for “Christers,” which was his term for Jesus-followers.
    Messala hated Ben Hur as only a jilted lover can the one who jilts him. This hatred is the engine of the plot. Vidal thought it screamingly funny that the Christers who’d be the audience for this movie would, in fact, be watching a story whose essential plot point was a homosexual love affair gone wrong.
    While the movie was being filmed, Vidal let Stephen Boyd in on the joke, and Boyd, too, thought the idea a scream. Heston never knew. He wouldn’t have liked it, Vidal understood. Totally a square.
    Correction: Gore Vidal was not the sort of man who’d find anything at all “screamingly funny,” not even his own brilliantly comic inventions. Too aristocratic.

  201. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 9:25 pm #

    What about Sonny Dupree? Even though over 300 pounds, he was always a gentleman.

  202. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 9:31 pm #

    Ah yes, Tom Chittum’s Langley Clowns. I was wondering when someone would bring them up. Tripp is the little kernels of corn that you slurp up out of the vomit. I wonder how Tripp feels about that fella…
    A lot of people are questioning PC in general now fella, and that includes the behavior of Blacks and Jews. As Mr Kunstler says in The Long Emergency, Black misbehavior is not going to be tolerated during the Long Emergency.

  203. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 9:34 pm #

    No doubt we will have the same interaction in another few years – and continue until to have it until one of us drops. It’s a kind of immortality for those like you who have rejected God. Nietzsche called Eternal Recurrence.

  204. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 9:37 pm #

    Someday people will be so hungry that they will go into theatres to get the gum stuck underneath the seats. Pray that you are not with child when destruction comes.

  205. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 9:41 pm #

    You question the Prophet of the Most High? You prefer “science”? Remember Ramakrisna’s story: a salt doll wanted to measure the ocean. So he went in and before he could he melted into it. The moral? Our participation in the Universe will always be more profound than our knowledge of it. In fact, to have any deeper understanding (and not just data or facts), we must participate in it far more deeply than we do now.

  206. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 9:47 pm #

    Exactly: everything is just “text”. The only sin is being judgemental. Every man is just a woman who happens to have a dick. Etc. The Truth is the opposite of all this. The Gore Vidals have a place but it’s the Charlton Hestons that built the house and must have the pride of place. The Gore Vidals are commentators and in that sense, parasites. Gore was a good one though – he opposed the Jewish takeover when few even saw it and few of those had the courage to say anything.

  207. Shakazulu January 15, 2013 at 9:48 pm #

    ” I wanted to get an idea of what Hollywood thinks America is about these days”
    The last James Bond movie “Skyfall” is the best Bond ever made. Maybe not the most amusing, or most entertaining, or showing the prettiest women, but it is the smartest and most intriguing. It had intellectual content.
    If you want to know what Hollywood thinks though, it thinks we are a doomed race. And they are right, for once. Lots of doom and gloom in the movies these days. Lots of techno-dystopian themes.

  208. Shakazulu January 15, 2013 at 9:55 pm #

    “Movies I like include The Godfather, Patton, 2001 Space Odyssey . . . Movies I hate include Saturday Night Fever, Eyes Wide Shut, and any movie with Barbra Streisand.”
    We have similar tastes in movies. Although as a very young man (boy really), I had a thing for Streisand. God knows why. I believed in Santa Claus too though at the time. Have never seen SNF or EWS, and only the Streisand movie with Shariff do I recall thinking Barbra was a babe.

  209. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 9:56 pm #

    Mr Endicott is right: Blacks take alot of care and feeding, so much so that it is bankrupting us. If it was up to Mr Tibbs’ of the world, there would be no Mansions with greenhouses full of orchids, just mud houses.

  210. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 9:58 pm #

    Yes a self fufilling prophecy: the filth the tribe has produced on the big and small screen has contributed to our downfall.

  211. Soul Pucker January 15, 2013 at 10:40 pm #

    In the interview linked to below, Catherine Austin Fitts, former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Housing/Federal Housing Commissioner, suggests that one important way for people to protect themselves in the coming collapse is to disassociate themselves from predatory, dishonest people, companies, government agencies, etc.
    I guess that I’m going to have to go live in the Australian Outback?

  212. whitehunter January 15, 2013 at 10:44 pm #

    Yes, but without a gun given Radu Voda’s link about the real Crocodile Dundee.

  213. SNAFU January 15, 2013 at 10:46 pm #

    Well CFNers I am interested not in the yays and nays opinions about moviedom; however, an historic event occurred right down the road from JHK’s current hometown about 1645 of this afternoon when Governor Cuomo actually did something with which I wholeheartedly agree. He signed a gun control law into effect which has the NRA incensed and frothing at the mouth. What I find appealing about this law, other than that it will have my acquaintances and neighbors equally incensed and frothing, is that it will likely become a blueprint for other like minded States and give large encouragement to the POTUS Obama administration to draft similar legislation to drag those States with differing opinions kicking and screaming into the fold with comprehensive overriding Federal legislation.
    Anyone agree? Disagree? Y’all have a good day now.

  214. Kyooshtik January 15, 2013 at 11:05 pm #

    What about Sonny Dupree?
    Don’t know him. Did he shoot pool?

  215. Kyooshtik January 15, 2013 at 11:09 pm #

    It’s a kind of immortality for those like you who have rejected God. Nietzsche called Eternal Recurrence.
    Like Groundhog Day? which, by the way, was another excellent movie… amusing/entertaining.

  216. Soul Pucker January 15, 2013 at 11:16 pm #

    I guess that the movie “Jango Unchained” is basically just like the 1950s Hitchcock movie “The Birds”?

  217. Radu Voda January 15, 2013 at 11:38 pm #

    No he was a real gent who used to hang around Suffolk Downs race track or was it Wonderland Dog track? I never met him but when I heard it he sounded simultaneously so real, pathetic, nice, disgusting, etc that I remembered. Just the way the speaker said 300 pound BUT a “real” gent – as if being 300 pounds some how precluded that in general. And of course, the very name somehow sounded like the corrupt world of mid 20th century pool halls.
    More interesting use of language: illegal immigrants described by Evangelical Liberals as “a” stranger or “the” stranger – all 12 million of them or is 30? Wouldn’t it be more accurate to call them a horde of locusts?

  218. Soul Pucker January 16, 2013 at 2:59 am #

    Thanks for the info regarding the execution of Crocodile Dundee for unregistered firearms possession.
    I was wondering why there was nothing about the real Crocodile Dundee on the Australian Citizenship exam that I took several years ago?
    They require test-takers to memorize facts about otherwise obscure Australian cricket players, etc., but nothing about the world-famous, real Crocodile Dundee, who captured the imagination and admiration of Australia the world over. Now, I now the answer—They shot him.
    Go figure…..

  219. Soul Pucker January 16, 2013 at 3:04 am #

    I see that Zuckerburg has announced a new “Killer” Facebook “App”. It seems that now Faceboogers can post a query to all other Faceboogers asking basically anything about anyone else on Facebook.
    For example, one could ask: “Is Soul Pucker a T..ali, b,,an?”
    And then asoka can respond online: “Yes, Soul Pucker is a T..ali,,ban with a silver spoon in his mouth.”
    Or, some bloke’s scorned ex-wife can….

  220. k-dog January 16, 2013 at 5:04 am #

    The more information they have on you the less freedom you have. Privacy and freedom are tied together. The podcast episode link I posted earlier touched on it but I watched a video of the same guy in Budapest today. He explained it better there but I think I can articulate the argument on my own.
    The more information that is ‘out there’ on you in say a social network the more individuality you loose. Your content will define you as a brand like Coke or McDonalds is defined. Maybe that’s good for you, you might be a greyhound, a winner, but most of us have shorter legs and can’t keep up. Taleb describes the situation as life lived in Extremistan as opposed to living in Mediocristan with a wider bell curve.
    Extremistan is characterized by few successes but those who do manage to succeed really make out well. In Mediocristan there is more chance of success but it will be less rewarding. A professional artist lives in Extremistan for example, a barber lives in Mediocristan.
    Abstracting your essence into a digital facsimile of yourself in Facebook or on another social medium and you loose your identity, your humanity. You embrace a thin digital representation of yourself and you become nothing more than a doggie biscuit in a pretty package. Maybe you’ll stand out and sell really well but chances are you’ll just be like everybody else.- another looser in Extremistan.

  221. Confusionism January 16, 2013 at 7:37 am #

    Mea Culpa. It is unforgivable.

  222. Confusionism January 16, 2013 at 7:51 am #

    “What’s my point? What’s your point – the point of your existence that is?”
    Oooh, quite the retort. And for your information, the First Ammendment makes no mention of citizenship.

  223. Confusionism January 16, 2013 at 7:53 am #

    Also Vlad, I wasn’t being pissy. I just think you’re an asshole.

  224. tripticket January 16, 2013 at 8:08 am #

    Got a fine little piece for you this week on permaculture outside the garden called “Hardly Unemployed,” contrasting the difference between the treadmill approach to life and the procreative approach. Productivity versus activity.
    Hope you enjoy it.
    Tripp out.

  225. HenryMorgan January 16, 2013 at 8:40 am #

    Re: ‘Hardly Unemployed’
    We had a nice snowfall last nite, what I call a New England snowfall that used to delight us so as kids … I’m reading your blog while the TV is on (not cable) … Breathless reporters and film crews featuring numerous auto wrecks and smashed up cars all over the place, spinning out on slick roads, some on fire on the side of the highway. My God, what a transportation system, what a civilization! Tripp, I love your site, which truly illustrates there is another way. All I can say is it takes a special type of person to pull off what you have; not one in a thousand could do it successfully, including myself.
    Cordially, HM

  226. HenryMorgan January 16, 2013 at 8:47 am #

    And you have to find the right Gal, too. Which ain’t easy.

  227. tripticket January 16, 2013 at 9:19 am #

    “And you have to find the right Gal, too. Which ain’t easy.”
    If anything keeps me honest in my relationship it’s the knowledge that my wife is one in a million! Although neither of us started off this way. It’s been a real pleasure maturing together as a married couple for sure.
    Thanks for the kind words, HM, and all our best to you as we head into the long descent.

  228. ozone January 16, 2013 at 9:32 am #

    I hear you there!
    Since we’ve re-plunked ourselves to the woods-country, the use of energy slaves has gone down dramatically, but nowhere near what Tripp has accomplished. (We do peck away, peck away though. Leaving something for the care and feeding of future you-mans of direct family has become something that never is far from our thoughts. Especially when the snow comes and locks things in a cold, quiet limbo.)

  229. HenryMorgan January 16, 2013 at 9:53 am #

    Hey Oz you’re one the 1 in a thousand I had in mind.
    Still have to get up there into the North Country and check out your spread. Maybe this Spring?

  230. ozone January 16, 2013 at 9:57 am #

    I always wonder if the kidlings will appreciate the extended camping trip that you’ve embarked on in future years. I remember camping all the way across the country (from NY to CA and back again) as a kid and really enjoying it. Plus, all of our vacations were of the camping variety; we wouldn’t have dreamed of the expense of motels and Disney-shit.
    I hope they’ll know what a life-enhancing experience they’ve been exposed to. (Nature does have a way of embracing us in constant, intuitive change.)
    …Or will it be: “Screw this, I’m a’goin’ to the big city to seek my fortune!” That’s how kids get; it’s their “job”. But perhaps having a real and natural skill set will see them right in whatever circumstance they place themselves.
    Howdy to the wife and the li’l scramblers. ;o)

  231. ozone January 16, 2013 at 10:01 am #

    Ha! Don’t I wish. :o)
    Hell, c’mon up any ol’ time; but warmth IS a lot nicer for crashing through the woods!

  232. ront January 16, 2013 at 10:13 am #

    I appreciated reading the reviews. I’ll be passing on these two movies. The many movies I did like this season are:
    Life of Pi
    Searching for Sugarman
    Les Miserables
    an old movie: Capra’s “Meet John Doe” (This movie depicts the depression 30’s as being very, very much like US today. It has heart.)
    Here is a “must read” essay from columnist Mark Morford on the subject of “change”. An excerpt and link:
    “Is it at all true? Are we incapable of large-scale change and wild evolution? Of course not. We do it all the time. After all, it’s the nature of everything. The conservative mindset, perhaps more than any other in America save religious fundamentalism, is at odds with the nature of spirit, love, existence itself.
    “Does that make you feel righteous and good? Does that do a liberal, change-loving heart proud? Don’t be so sure. Don’t get too cocky. Odds are, you’re not all that different. Neither am I. No one is.”

  233. ront January 16, 2013 at 10:19 am #

    Speaking of the 30’s, here is a video presenting Meher Baba’s message to Hollywood given in 1932 to members of the movie industry attending a reception given to him by Douglas Fairbanks and Mary Pickford at their mansion Pickfair.

  234. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 11:10 am #

    And of course, the very name somehow sounded like the corrupt world of mid 20th century pool halls.
    Few of the denizens of these places were working on their MFA’s but I would hardly call their world corrupt.

  235. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 11:12 am #

    Last comment was for Vlad.

  236. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 11:27 am #

    The more information they have on you the less freedom you have.
    The truth of your entire post becomes more evident by the hour. Take yesterday: I spotted a Boccia watch ad in the NY Times (naturally, the hands were at roughly 10:10). Very cool looking. I googled to get more info. Yesterday I also posted a comment here about pool rooms. Today my screen is inundated with watch and pool table ads. No human involvement required. Their algorithms are tracking me for them.

  237. Jam47 January 16, 2013 at 11:33 am #

    When the Algerian rebellion broke out in 1956, the officers and men of the French army were determined to show France and the world that they had rediscovered how to fight. They had been walloped by Bismarck in 1870, by Hitler in 1940, and by Ho Chi Minh just two years earlier, in 1954.
    But Algeria was going to be different. Those ragtag Berbers were going to be put down like the mad dogs they were. Didn’t happen. The French forces were driven out of Algeria just as they had been driven out of Vietnam.
    Now the French are having another go in Mali, attempting to show another bunch of ill-armed Third-Worlders who’s master.
    The move against Mali is strategic, of course–connected to national security and the Islamic threat, or somesuch. But it isn’t only that. France and its army are trying to preserve what remains of la glorie and la France profonde and all the rest of that Gallic stuff.
    For the victor, any war at all is a form of therapy. France, in Mali, is seeking treatment.

  238. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 11:37 am #

    Mea Culpa. It is unforgivable.
    Nevertheless, I forgive you.
    David Foster Wallace has a female character in one of his stories names May Aculpa. The Sopranos could have used a character named Salvator Monella.

  239. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 11:42 am #


  240. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 11:44 am #

    Another correction:
    named, not names

  241. asoka.. January 16, 2013 at 12:00 pm #

    France, in Mali, is seeking treatment. France is flexing its muscles and getting its ass whupped by Al Qaeda in return.
    Live by the sword, die by the sword.

  242. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 12:01 pm #

    All I can say is it takes a special type of person to pull off what you have; not one in a thousand could do it successfully, including myself.
    So true. And therein lies the problem. The lifestyle is attractive to observe and to follow like an adventure and may even become more prevalent when we die off to a half billion but in the meantime 7 billion of us requires economies of scale.
    Your point about keeping the kids down on the farm after they’ve seen Paree is also valid.

  243. HenryMorgan January 16, 2013 at 12:04 pm #

    The French gave as good as they got in the 1914 war, stopping the German advance on the Marne. The French Army suffered 2 million dead in WW1. When you consider their 20 year run under NBonaparte a century earlier, they have a pretty admirable military history.

  244. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 12:11 pm #

    And you have to find the right Gal, too.
    The term Gal is so early/mid 20th century. It calls to mind gingham dresses and such.

  245. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 12:24 pm #

    When you consider their 20 year run under NBonaparte a century earlier, they have a pretty admirable military history.
    Au contraire, Hank. I have recently finished reading War and Peace (phew! that was a long one as the girl at the picnic said). Bonaparte entered Russia with 600 thousand men and returned to France, his tail between his legs, with about 20,000. Tolstoy completely debunks the notion of military genius in Napoleon or in anyone, for that matter.

  246. asoka.. January 16, 2013 at 12:25 pm #

    ALGIERS, Jan 16 (Reuters) – Islamist militants attacked a gas field in Algeria on Wednesday, claiming to have kidnapped up to 41 foreigners including seven Americans in a dawn raid in retaliation for France’s intervention in Mali, according to regional media reports.

  247. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 12:39 pm #

    Islamist militants… kidnapped… foreigners including seven Americans… in retaliation for France’s intervention in Mali,
    Impeccable logic for this “religion of peace.” Kidnap Americans and other foreigners in retaliation against France. Hang the morality, it’s all about ends and means.

  248. HenryMorgan January 16, 2013 at 12:45 pm #

    Ya. Q, the French got their butts kicked in their headlong retreat out of Russia, but up ’till then they did pretty good. Borodino was a draw, maybe a little favorable to the French.
    The French get a bad rap. Besides, they aren’t known as fighters. They’re known as lovers.
    –Henry Morgan, the Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court

  249. Rhino January 16, 2013 at 1:06 pm #

    The Taliban have a saying that applies here. “You may have the watches but we have the time.”

  250. Rhino January 16, 2013 at 1:07 pm #

    Threw me off my stride. Sure.
    Listen Buck, hate to tell you this but Kunstler isn’t the only thing going. I don’t know about you but I’ve got other stuff to do.
    In any case this came up before but I’m not Southern Italian or even Italian. I’m averse to posting a whole lot of personal info and so I’ve said nothing about my nationality, residence, ethnic origin etc. I did say that I live in the anglosphere but that’s a very big place given all the places the Brits planted the flag. And that’s all I’ll say on this.

  251. Rhino January 16, 2013 at 1:11 pm #

    I thought Jackie Gleason was awesome in that movie. Didn’t have many lines but then he didn’t need to. Conveyed just by expression.
    This is an old guy’s shtick but I miss the old days. There were nasty bits but you forget those. Probably an evolutionary adaptation.

  252. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 1:16 pm #

    Yesterday my proprietary “model” was screaming OVERBOUGHT!! so I went long an inverse (i.e. bearish) ETF and within an hour was down 36 bucks. Effectively the market said “model schmodel.” Oh well, I’m hangin tough and today is a new day.

  253. Rhino January 16, 2013 at 1:17 pm #

    Yes, perish the though that this “religion of peace” spread from Saudi Arabia to cover large swathes of the globe by means of the sword. No, no, it spread by missionaries doing good works and acts of charity. Sure it did.
    “Imperialism”, they howl. Yes, they ought to be well acquainted with the concept having employed it themselves.
    As Muslims learned in the last 300 years or so, live by the sword, die by the sword.

  254. Rhino January 16, 2013 at 1:20 pm #

    “Yes, perish the though.. ”
    typo, should read perish the thought.

  255. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 2:03 pm #

    Why would it? Every normal person know you don’t go to another country and talk shit about it and try to foment revolution. That you don’t know that, shows you are abnormal. But in fact, I bet you wouldn’t do it because you’d get your ass kicked. Just another hypocrite Leftist wanna be Revolutionary.
    That America allows it shows utterly corrupt our politics are – and how demoralized the people are. That Foreigners dare to do it shows they know all this.

  256. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 2:06 pm #

    As Mao said, the People are the Ocean in which the Revolutionary swims. The People of Algeria were united agains the French. I doubt if Mali is united for Al Qaeda in the same way. I doubt if Mali exists in any real sense to begin with….

  257. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 2:09 pm #

    The Mantra set to rap. Spread it far and wide, my niggers – it is a potent tool. Nigger comes from the Old German Negger – meaning Man of Earth. It is a compliment when used by Whites for Whites. Flee to the Fields my Neggers!

  258. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 2:18 pm #

    Remember the Beverly Hillbillies: Jed and Granny thought the pool table a fancy eatin’ table.
    What do you know about jai alai? Do you engage is sports betting or do you stick to stocks? When playing pool as a youf, did you wear a pork pie hat? Have you ever engaged in Homosexuality or other advanced forms of Occultism?
    Forgive me, I’m getting carried away. The above is a leftover trait from incarnation as an Insquisitor – much like Dr Strangelove’s errant hand.

  259. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 2:21 pm #

    Another meaning of Negger: a Neg is a humorous put down a female used to entice her interest. Nothing bores women more than one compliment after another – they just confirm that the complimenter is of low status, below her in any case. Thus one who uses Negs could be called a Negger.

  260. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 2:22 pm #

    To Vlad and certain others here (you know who you are),
    Read Fred’s latest missive titled “Marry Abroad.” It confirms everything you already know on the subject of women.

  261. k-dog January 16, 2013 at 2:22 pm #

    And showing interest in peak oil or fracking will get you investment opportunities. It’s a gas!
    Your right, the nature of the web reduces individual freedom and humanity in several ways and you’ve pointed out one way. Freedom is choice and denial of choice certainly denies freedom.
    Targeted ads reduce choice though we don’t really think about that when we look at them. I’m usually just either irritated or annoyed when I see them and don’t get more philosophical than that about it. But no matter how hard I try I can’t stop my mouth from watering every time I hear a bell ring so reacting to targeted ads from a purely emotional point of view makes sense.
    After my mouth waters I get hungry, even if I’ve already had a big chunk of meat. Sometimes I even drool on the floor.

  262. HenryMorgan January 16, 2013 at 2:23 pm #

    “The right kind of Gal, too …”
    That is a little dated, Q. Next time I’ll write, ” … needs to git down wif de nasty ho from de crack howse … ”
    Is that better?

  263. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 2:24 pm #

    Fred agrees with me about American Women. Sorry Regressor.

  264. nameta9 January 16, 2013 at 2:27 pm #


  265. Jam47 January 16, 2013 at 2:29 pm #

    From the point of view the Muslim warrior who sees himself as waging war against the West, the logic IS impeccable: the American and the Frenchman occupy the selfsame category, the category of Crusader and infidel. Each is the other.

  266. nameta9 January 16, 2013 at 2:33 pm #


  267. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 2:51 pm #

    Finally the NRA earns the dues it collects with a very effective counter punch. Go NRA!…

  268. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 2:54 pm #

    Cock Ape under the Bhum of the Maid!

  269. asoka.. January 16, 2013 at 3:08 pm #

    They all love violence and hate war. They all want peace, just as soon as we finish killing the “enemy” … an enemy who is immoral, vicious, bloodthirsty, unscrupulous, irrational, etc. … an enemy who after the war becomes a trading partner, suddenly capable of reason.
    Don’t believe the propaganda that says “we love peace, we hate war … but, sometimes war is necessary.”

  270. k-dog January 16, 2013 at 3:11 pm #

    I don’t have a ‘point’ but you might be interested to know that their religion of peace learned all their bag of torture tricks from our religion of peace.
    Heretics of Byzantine times could have their eyes poked out, their their hands cut off, or their tongues removed. I’m sure I’ve not covered all the delightful options. Poking out of the eyes was sometimes optional and death was a choice, a real dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t situation, literally.
    Slicing off noses was a common means of political purification and discipline. One of their emperors when deposed, had his nose cut off and his tongue imperfectly removed. He was restored after a period of exile. This emperor, Justinian II, was was then known as “the slit-nosed”. His disfigurement sadly did not result in any spiritual evolution and he spent his time getting even once he had power back.
    Of course not having been there it is hard to get a realistic picture of the situation, like in Mali.

  271. thaddeus thurston thistlethwaite III January 16, 2013 at 3:30 pm #

    If I may offer some investment advice Kyoo…
    Two words – Precious Metals.

  272. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 3:34 pm #

    Vlad – What do you know about jai alai?
    Kyoo – I went to a Fronton once several decades ago in Florida with my brother. Never won a penny.
    Vlad – Do you engage [in] sports betting or do you stick to stocks?
    Kyoo – The only time I bet on anything other than the stock market is when the Power Ball pot gets so big it’s being covered on the nightly news. Then I rush out and buy $5 worth of tickets. Obviously that hasn’t panned out or I’d be posting from the Riviera or some such.
    Vlad – When playing pool as a youf, did you wear a pork pie hat?
    Kyoo – No, none of us yutes wore hats of any kind back in the mid ’50s and early ’60s. Not even baseball caps. The total ubiquity of hats on the male head goes back a decade or two earlier. When you watch old depression era footage you see hundreds of men in soup kitchen lines and every one of them, no matter how down and out, is wearing an overcoat, a tie and a fedora hat. If I was still shooting pool today I might consider a pork pie hat just to add a little panache to my rather innocuous visual persona.
    Vlad – Have you ever engaged in Homosexuality or other advanced forms of Occultism?
    Kyoo – Homosexuality is not something one engages in. It [being Homosexual] is something one either is or is not. I am not. I do not fear picking it up like a case of the flu from a gay acquaintance. As to Occultism (slash Religion) it is all hogwash to me. I abandonned all “belief” (if I ever had any) in an epiphany-like moment of clarity in the middle of a required novena at St. Joe’s during the semester break of my freshman year. Not the result the Jesuits were looking for I’m sure.

  273. thaddeus thurston thistlethwaite III January 16, 2013 at 3:39 pm #

    abandonned??? Come on, it’s abandoned.

  274. asoka.. January 16, 2013 at 4:23 pm #

    Two words: gold bubble.
    Gold is a wholly speculative investment which yields no income.
    Over-exposure to it can wreck a portfolio,
    Between 1980 and 2000 it lost around four-fifths of its purchasing power.
    What goes up must come down. Bubbles pop.

  275. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 4:25 pm #

    Two words – Precious Metals.
    Tripple T3, I have a modest position in IAU. The inverse ETF I mentioned is a pure speculation based on a technical model I developed around 1985. Since I have input certain market data every business day without fail into a formula for all these years it seems only right that I should occasionally put my money where my mouth is.
    I have a brother in FL who is a gold/precious metals bug…totally.

  276. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 4:38 pm #

    abandonned??? Come on, it’s abandoned.
    It goes without saying that the extra n was a test and you passed. ;o)

  277. asoka.. January 16, 2013 at 4:40 pm #

    It is spelled “Triple” not “Tripple” unless of course you were referring to a gait in which a horse moves both near and both off legs alternately and which somewhat resembles the amble.

  278. ront January 16, 2013 at 4:44 pm #

    There has been the rare occasion where the theme of “religion” was raised on this forum. As there seems to be a mild interest both positively and negatively, I thought this quote attributed to Meher Baba might serve to clarify its real purpose.
    “ So, I love and adore all religions, but I am of no religion. Nor do I seek to establish another religion or add to the numberless illusions that divide man against man. No religion was ever intended to be anything more than the Gateway to God as Truth; but every religion has, in the course of time, got converted into a veil, obstructing the undimmed perception of that One Truth. As soon as Truth of direct inner realization is intellectualized and formulated, it gets enmeshed in creeds and dogmas. They have a tendency to bind the soul in the very attempt to emancipate it. They cover the truth in the very act of seeking to express it.”

  279. Jam47 January 16, 2013 at 5:00 pm #

    There’s a scene in Jean Luc Goddard’s “Breathless” (1959) that illustrates a characteristic that most grown up French males supposedly share, which is a clear-eyed assessment of women.
    The scene shows a monsieur Pavelescu being interviewed by a gaggle of journalists. This Pavelescu is a writer of the let’s-abuse-the-, bourgeois sort, and apparently notorious.
    One of the questions asked: “Monsieur Pavalescu, are women more sentimental than men?”
    Pavalescu’s answer: ” Feelings are a luxury few women indulge in.”
    When it comes to women, most me are romantic fools, especially when young. Most women, in their reactions to men, are not, even when they appear to be. And this is merely one instance of women’s resistance to sentiment. W

  280. Jam47 January 16, 2013 at 5:01 pm #

    When are men, Anglo men, going to learn?

  281. tripticket January 16, 2013 at 5:08 pm #

    “I always wonder if the kidlings will appreciate the extended camping trip that you’ve embarked on in future years.”
    God I hope so. They really seem to like it, and like it more and more as I get the forest around the “house” developed a bit so they can play more comfortably outside. Yes, puhleez chile, go outside. We’re probably going to add another 15′ onto the front deck, for so many reasons, but I’m probably going to add a slide to the deck for the kiddies, and a giant swing, so they can get waaay out over the land when they get it going. We’ll have some fun.
    My older one, the daughter, will probably be the one to jetison life in the food forest for the big city. Although I sure hope not. Younger boy will probably be the one salvaging alternators and building wind turbines and micro-hydro systems in the workshop.
    Y’all staying warm up there?

  282. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 5:14 pm #

    not “Tripple” unless of course you were referring to a gait in which a horse moves both near and both off legs alternately and which somewhat resembles the amble.
    Actually, no, it wasn’t that horse gait… what happened I think was that I was in a reverie concerning a perfect set of the protuberances of the female mamma and that double letter p just stuck in my head. Sorry, I’ll try to be more careful.

  283. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 5:33 pm #

    every religion has, in the course of time, got converted into a veil, obstructing the undimmed perception of that One Truth. – M. Baba
    Yet, in a prior breath Baba said “I love and adore all religions.” Sounds pretty stupid to me… The words large and multitudes, etc. come to mind.

  284. nameta9 January 16, 2013 at 5:34 pm #

    “Also, technology has made people helpless to help themselves. When anything goes wrong they have to call in an ‘expert’ to do the repairs. This is a fearful world. That feeling of helplessness; that feeling of unpredictability (elsewhere I decried the determinism of classical physics, but this is the wrong kind of unpredictability); that feeling of having no control whatsoever over things.”
    1) It all goes back to the fact that there is so little real work left in a Technological Economy – Society that the corporations (and all kinds of organizations (government and not) and others), in order to create some activity must load all manufactured entities with never ending dependencies, complexity, software (otherwise how are you going to keep those thousands of programmers and software engineers busy in all those corporations for 8 hours a day every day ?). And this just complicates everything, everything becomes indirect, everything becomes an “obligatory path” otherwise you could revert back to a simpler device but they all make sure that nothing is backwards compatible, nothing can go back to simple basic functions, it is either all or nothing and you have to guess the right combination of “all” and so forth. This also makes everyone and everything ever more dependent on the software and engineers designing this stuff, so they too become obligatory, they become a fixed dependency, you are forced to depend on them otherwise they would not be needed (and in fact 99 % of modern software and systems are truly almost useless crap, they are just there to make you depend on someone elses work that is useless but you are forced to abide too otherwise all those workers could be dumped in a heartbeat and so on).
    2) Until the 1980s you could learn a skill set and apply it to fight matter – hardware, to fight the real constraints reality opposed us as in when you could repair color TVs with an oscilloscope and such: but this is no longer the case, now you fight against other people and their choices, and the crystallization of their will power in hard wired designs of software and functionality that was chosen arbitrarily just because, as standards, not as real physical constraints but as expressions of remote will powers and remote people deciding that devices and machines and software and systems must operate according to some arbitrary quirk choice (also implying the dependencies on those corporations or standards and the power struggles associated with it, look at the legal fights between Samsung and Apple and such). A modern color TV is full of black boxes (huge ICs) that no one on earth has the faintest idea what they could possibly be doing, it is all a black box now, but that is how the manufacturers want it, nothing can be understood you must be under the thumb of others in all cases. Windows has billions of bytes of software, how is that even conceivable ? after all, it just has to really do just a few things (capture position of mouse and call a function according to where it is and such, no big deal), totally insane complexity hiding a simple power struggle, a simple will power opposing you.
    3) You can never develop any kind of skill set of any value anymore in modern technology, since everything always changes and the skill set just consists in knowing the right passwords, the right combinations of numbers to enter and such (like the right version of Java on what machine with what libraries and so on, like JAVA is the programming language that you use to write over and over again the same things that doesn’t work on any machine and the language is always being changed and so forth, always being updated and nothing works and in the end you are really just wasting time chasing other people’s will powers and design choices and ever changing minds and standards and so on). So in essence you will always be obsolete, you will always need new training and all of what you learned is already worthless since today you just need to learn the right combination of numbers that are valid for a week and then next week all the numbers have changed again and so forth. Obviously there is no real skill needed, no accumulation of talent or know how, you are just forced to always learn new idiotic crap that goes nowhere. Instead an analog designer of a few years back could build up a nice skill set that could be used over and over again, now nothing can be used over and over again and such.
    “Another thing I noticed in the last few years is how a lot of technology has really peaked and we are essentially fighting against other people, their decisions and will power and not against matter – physics and natural limitations: if you designed or repaired a color TV in the 1980s you were fighting against physics by creating circuits and designs to optimize electronic functions, it was an objective kind of activity, everyone that could contribute, contributed as in the accumulation of knowledge, as a serial labor activity, as in labor accumulates and creates more results and wealth, as a “common good”, in that each invention or perfection led to better results: today a digital TV system is just an aggregate of arbitrary designs and systems all decided by other people according to standards according to their free will, you essential fight against other people and not against nature. ”
    [b]APE STAR[/b]

  285. k-dog January 16, 2013 at 5:50 pm #

    “You won’t be permitted to raise them. The government will do it. After spending the first half of the day being indoctrinated in school, they will spend the next half watching the lobotomy box (unless you are one of the very few with the strength not to allow the damned things in your house.) This will program them with the moral values, tastes, and misinformation that Hollywood and New York think proper. It will keep them from reading and in many cases leave them unable to read—the flick-flick-flick of TV does not promote an ability to concentrate. The result will be that you will be afraid to say anything that runs against pc because they will look at you as a monster.”

  286. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 6:06 pm #

    Oh shit, our Canadian Goose is cooked!

  287. xport January 16, 2013 at 6:12 pm #

    Whatever happens, please, do not panic.
    We will get thru the crisis.

  288. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 6:14 pm #

    What was the circumstances of your act of apostasy? What was the class? Was it something the Father said or the way he said – i.e not sincerely for example. Or what was it just a stray straw breaking the camel’s back – but which straw?

  289. asoka.. January 16, 2013 at 6:14 pm #

    Thank you, Kyoo. Meher Baba and I actually have much in common.

  290. thaddeus thurston thistlethwaite III January 16, 2013 at 6:15 pm #

    I’ll let you know when gold gets to $2,000, and then $3,000, etc.
    You let me know when bread costs $15 a loaf, and then $20, etc.
    It’s all coming down the pike.
    You’ve got to try harder, Soak. A good book that will do wonders for your economics education is “Financial Reckoning Day” by William Bonner. A great read with lots of pertinent historical and theoretical information about economics. This book did wonders for my understanding as to what’s going on today. It will help you understand the world far better than all the Jack Reacher novels put together. To my knowledge however, it’s not yet been translated into Spanish.
    Gold will get to the bubble stage eventually when everyone wants in and when it goes parabolic, as they say. Hasn’t happened yet, though.
    Read the book, though. It will expand your understanding even if you never want to own even one ounce of gold or silver.
    It’s time for a cigar and a bit of cognac.

  291. thaddeus thurston thistlethwaite III January 16, 2013 at 6:26 pm #

    I think some exposure to precious metals is always a good thing, whatever one feels comfortable with.
    Is your investment model explained somewhere online? I’m always open for an education.
    That asoka character – he doesn’t appear to have all of his oars in the water, does he?

  292. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 6:28 pm #

    You remind me of Bilbo Baggins in Harvard Lamphoon’s mock up called Bored of the Rings. Bilbo thus becomes Dildo Baggins. Your world is dying and its death throes are the birth pangs of my world being born.
    I do appreciate your coming out as a Jew. I like to know who I’m talking to. You remind me a bit of Marty, a legally blind Jewish guy I once knew. He didn’t work but obviously came from money since he was always going to different gurus all over the world. A gentle and somewhat wise soul. He told me that the real Saints were always unique and never like anyone else. That’s one way to know them. To lose one’s life is to gain it. To make yourself empty and dull, to be willing to be the man of no title, actually allows the Spirit to fill you and bring ones personality to full fruition.
    My favorite Baba story: a devotee was driving down the highway and had an overwhelming urge to stop the car. He walked a little way into a clearing in the woods and was “told” what to do: tack up little Baba cards, each with a picture and saying, on all the trees around the clearing. He obeyed the Guru within and went on his way. Years later a man stopped his car on the side of the road and walked into the little clearing with the intent of blowing his brains out. He saw and read the little cards, staying in that clearing for hours, filled with the Spirit that had saved his life. Years later the two men met at a Baba gathering and the story was made clear.

  293. asoka.. January 16, 2013 at 6:46 pm #

    That asoka character – he doesn’t appear to have all of his oars in the water, does he?
    All the oars on the right side are in the water, but for some reason I seem to be going in circles.

  294. thaddeus thurston thistlethwaite III January 16, 2013 at 6:54 pm #

    Yes, so I see. But do read the book if you have the time.

  295. progress4conserving January 16, 2013 at 7:18 pm #

    I’m going to start tonight with Fred, Vlad. You too, K.
    It’s a rare Fred that doesn’t resonate with me almost totally. And this one doesn’t. Casting around for the reasons as to why, I thought of something WageLaborer said to me, years ago, now.
    “Wow, Prog, the South isn’t just another region, it’s a whole different country.”
    -wage, paraphrased-
    I just haven’t had the sorts of troubles that Fred details, with women. Very few men I know, who were born and bred in the South and married women of similar status – have had “Fred-class” troubles and fears with women.
    (Parenthetically, the only two men I knew who had really rough divorces in Georgia, wound up as the custodial parents.)
    Anecdotal evidence, to be sure.
    But I’m not leaving the South, certainly not for another country, ’till I die.
    If then. Why leave Heaven, right?
    Here’s a relevant Fred quote, which makes oblique agreement with my point. Just substitute “in the rural American South” where Fred says “abroad.”
    “Do you want them growing up as mall rats, bored, taking drugs, getting into sex at fourteen, and never doing anything but hanging out? Or would you prefer to raise them abroad where you have influence? And where, incidentally, they will become natively fluent in another language.”
    -fred, who was, oddly, raised in Virginia-

  296. progress4conserving January 16, 2013 at 7:30 pm #

    “What I find appealing about this law, other than that it will have my acquaintances and neighbors equally incensed and frothing, is that it will likely become a blueprint for other like minded States and give large encouragement to the POTUS Obama”
    -snafu, on gun control-
    First, snafu, I feel for your neighbors. Exactly why they should have to kowtow to that Sodom to their coast is a mystery to me. Although, it is similar to the way rural Georgia occasionally kowtows to Atlanta. And it’s similar to the way you would like the rest of the United States to kowtow to New York (City!?) on gun control.
    Anyway, moving on to your main point.
    I will be a backer of New York Style gun control, for the Entire United States.
    Just as soon, that is, as the United States retroactively enforces the existing laws on the books concerning immigration. AND, just as soon as the United States achieves effective “drug control” on the borders – in preparation for “EFFECTIVE??” gun control on those self-same borders. -sarcasm on/off.

  297. progress4conserving January 16, 2013 at 7:36 pm #…
    Here’s the petition, antiS.
    I got confirmation from David that he, asoka.., and the petition writer were the same person in this post, last week –

  298. progress4conserving January 16, 2013 at 7:45 pm #

    Corrections –
    “First, snafu, I feel for your neighbors. Exactly why they should have to kowtow to that Sodom to their coast is a mystery to me.”
    I was going for “that Sodom to their south,” but overedited myself into something nonsensical.
    How about, “that Sodom on their coast?”
    Regardless, urban centers have undeserved influence on National politics – you should agree.

  299. Buck's A Stud January 16, 2013 at 8:01 pm #

    Sorry, I thought you were ‘Cash of Canada’…Jackie Blue’s Sonny Corleone wedding reception fantasy.
    Obviously, I gave you too much credit 🙂

  300. ront January 16, 2013 at 9:00 pm #

    That’s a good story. I had not ever heard that, There are many stories that are similar to that one. I appreciate your sharing it.

  301. ront January 16, 2013 at 9:06 pm #

    Religion can be beneficial for a time for individuals at a certain stage with certain needs. Think of it like a type of medicine which can heal you from your affliction, but, once you are healed, you need to stop taking it.
    In that sense the medicine is good or bad depending how it is used.

  302. Soul Pucker January 16, 2013 at 9:13 pm #

    In the photo of Dmitry Orlov in the link below Dmitry looks a lot like Richard Geer in the movie “American Gigalo”.

  303. Radu Voda January 16, 2013 at 9:21 pm #

    Good site to nurture your warrior spirit. New England is so full of pansies – the only people with any fire tend to be Anarchist wackos like Zone. Notice how he doesn’t stand for the 2nd Ammendment against the Marxists on site.

  304. Soul Pucker January 16, 2013 at 9:38 pm #

    In the interview linked to below, Catherine Austin Fitts, former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Housing/Federal Housing Commissioner, suggests that one important way for people to protect themselves in the coming collapse is to disassociate themselves from predatory, dishonest people, companies, government agencies, etc., what Ms. Fitts refers to a “Predator Evasion”.
    Doesn’t the U.S. military have an aerial drone called “The Predator”?

  305. progress4conserving January 16, 2013 at 9:41 pm #…
    The above link is interesting.
    And, to the south of the referenced picture, one can easily discern the US/Mexico border at Baja, as well as a vague line at the border along the Rio Grande.
    important borders and events from space?
    indeed, quite easily seen!

  306. Soul Pucker January 16, 2013 at 9:44 pm #

    During my recent frustrating conversation with an IRS representative, the representative said that there’s nothing that she could do about my problem because “[she] is just a number.” She also said that the IRS is basically just a giant, impersonal computer that just automatically spits out bills to taxpayers, which confirmed my suspicion that no one had been reading my letters sent to the IRS, and that my letters probably just went into the bin.
    In short, the IRS is basically just a DRONE.
    The U.S. government is becoming a DRONE.
    I read somewhere that the P..ent a gon now wants to basically replace human soldiers with DRONES.
    Did anyone ever see the movie “Robo Cop”?

  307. Soul Pucker January 16, 2013 at 9:46 pm #

    They now seem to be saying that the people shouldn’t own guns because the government has its own well-regulated milita…of DRONES…..

  308. IxNoMor January 16, 2013 at 10:03 pm #

    I just don’t get why everyone seems so bent on vilifying video games, or rather FPS’s, as being the root cause for all these SSRI riddled sociopathic timebombs. I’m thinking there’s prolly a higher correlation (and significant, at that) to high fructose GMO corn syrup and hydrogenated GMO vegetable oils (and to a lesser extent, ADHD diabetic onset, due to all TV programs interrupted every 5 minutes by 4 minutes worth of pure, unadulterated, subliminal noise/poison [commercials]).
    I played Castle Wolfenstein on the Apple2E back in ’83, and absolutely loved it. Hell, I spent time on that same Apple2E programming those multi-color line-bouncing screensavers you see today, spinning through and ricocheting off walls (rIIIght, screensaver in ’83 – hehe).
    OK I digressed. After the introduction of Doom v1.5 ’93/4 (multiplayer), I was hooked on co-op gameplay. I played Quake1-3 also, mostly multiplayer – either CTF or teams (yeah, some FFA – heh). I then saw the death of the iD FPS by those military FPS clones – and they totally took over (my bro just loved Battlefield 1942). These military FPS’s totally focused on chump moves, like ducking/hiding/sniping – rather than open playfield cooperative tactics. And they illustrate why we still camp/stealth/drone in our current wars (*ONE* takes out many “collateral”).
    Around ’99 or so, I started trying out those MMORPG FPS’s (similar clone FPS engines). Everquest was evercamp for negative returns, WoW was fight for nodes/mobs/grindfest.
    To end this rather abruptly, my experience with FPS’s involved cooperation, tactics, skill, and character growth – rather than simply kill every living thing that moves, with the BFG9000 and INVULNERABILITY…

  309. myrtlemay January 16, 2013 at 10:33 pm #

    I wish Fred would have written that book because I would want to read it. American women are such bitches. I remember after Vietnam so many U.S. soldiers returned with Vietnamese war brides. Problem was that within 3-5 years these girls turned into materialistic, self-consumed bitches, too. And this was almost 50 years ago!
    My advice to my boy grandchildren is to steer clear of marriage at all costs (if they have a penny to their names). If they’re poor I advise them to go ahead and get married – get the free maid and whore service. As long as they’re comfortable wearing ear plugs in their own homes :D!

  310. myrtlemay January 16, 2013 at 10:35 pm #

    I don’t get it either.

  311. IxNoMor January 16, 2013 at 10:38 pm #

    “Regarding the knock-on effect of becoming jaded”
    Speaking of which, just saw that move Jade, from ’95 or so. Not too bad, but the car chase scene seemed to go on forever – longer than any other car chase I can remember (‘cept maybe that Matrix motorcycle one, or the Ronin one, or the French Connection one, or [ad nauseum]).
    Keep conning them into debt, with the “lure” of shiny plastic trinkets!!! Iphone (carrot?) on a stick?!…

  312. IxNoMor January 16, 2013 at 10:44 pm #

    Not to spam, but my earliest programming experience whuz in Basic on the TRASH-80, circa ’79. If only I had gotten in on that computer language racket, back when Noam Chomsky wrote all the rules (early 60s?) – oh yeah, “that’d have been *nice*”!!!

  313. asoka.. January 16, 2013 at 10:44 pm #

    They now seem to be saying that the people shouldn’t own guns…
    Obama is pro gun ownership and a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment. He has never said people shouldn’t own guns. What he has said is that military grade assault weapons with high capacity magazines should be used by the military, not by movie theater goers.

  314. myrtlemay January 16, 2013 at 10:45 pm #

    “(my bro just loved Battlefield 1942).”
    My ex husband didn’t. In fact, he suffered a breakdown many years after being a P.O.W. in Japan.
    Glad you young folks seem to enjoy WWII, though. It wasn’t so fun the first time around. Go figure.

  315. myrtlemay January 16, 2013 at 10:54 pm #

    Guns don’t kill people, people kill guns. Think about it. 😉

  316. myrtlemay January 16, 2013 at 10:57 pm #

    I long for the days when spam was something you got out of a can…if times were tough and you were hungry, that is.

  317. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 10:58 pm #

    She also said that the IRS is basically just a giant, impersonal computer
    For an in-depth look at what goes on at the IRS read The Pale King by David Foster Wallace.

  318. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 11:08 pm #

    longer than any other car chase I can remember (‘cept maybe that Matrix motorcycle one, or the Ronin one, or the French Connection one, or …
    You left out Bullitt…a classic.

  319. k-dog January 16, 2013 at 11:13 pm #

    “Do you want them growing up as mall rats, bored, taking drugs, getting into sex at fourteen, and never doing anything but hanging out? Or would you prefer to raise them abroad where you have influence?”
    I started wanting sex at fourteen; and never stopped.
    How one guarantees a metamorphose into never wanting to doing anything but hang out into a sentient being who realizes they are not alone in the universe is a mystery for the ages. Find an answer to that wringer and you’ve saved the world.
    I hope his idea of influence is not a leather strap.

  320. k-dog January 16, 2013 at 11:15 pm #

    from never

  321. Kyooshtik January 16, 2013 at 11:37 pm #

    What was the circumstances of your act of apostasy?
    First, let’s clean up the grammar. It’s either:
    . What was the circumstance
    . What were the circumstances
    Can’t put my finger on any particular straw, any class or any priest. Just reached a critical mass… peak ridiculous bullshit.
    I have always wondered how otherwise brilliant people can swallow a lot of the dogma. People like the Jesuits in general or, say, William Buckley in particular.

  322. Soul Pucker January 17, 2013 at 12:16 am #

    So let me get this gun control thing straight: Like the real Crocodile Dundee in the Outback of Australia, semi-automatic gun owners in the U.S. basically own such weapons because they fear that the U.S. government to going to come after them and take away their weapons, right?
    So, like the real Crocodile Dundee, who was executed in the Outback for possessing an unregistered weapon, the semi-automatic gun owners will also be executed, right?
    Seems rather ironic…..
    Sounds like a back-handed way to get rid of somebody’s most fearsome opponents?

  323. Shakazulu January 17, 2013 at 12:33 am #

    Yes, and the more I watch the older movies and TV shows the more I see how subtle the mass mind control was embedded in those words and images. What a bunch of sick twisted people to use this tool for such evil ends! And I’ve spent money to support them!

  324. Kyooshtik January 17, 2013 at 12:35 am #

    Is your investment model explained somewhere online? I’m always open for an education.
    It is very similar to many other models out there known as Over-bought/Over-sold oscillators. At the time I conceived it I didn’t know that others before me had come up with virtually the same thing.
    Essentially, mine is a measurement of where the market closes each day relative to its high/low range. A weighted average of ten days of measurements is calculated giving the greatest weight (10) to the current day and sequentially lesser weights for previous days (9, 8, 7, 6, etc) then dividing the whole thing by 55 (i.e. the sum of the weights 10, 9, 8, …1). The resulting number will be between 0 and 1. Ten day moving average readings above .7 and especially near .8 indicate an over-bought condition and the market will usually begin to decline for 1-4 weeks. I call this my Range Ratio Indicator (RRI). It hit .759 at yesterdays close so it is predicting a decline and the market today, in fact, had a small decline so I’m off to an OK start on my trade. The system is by no means infallible.
    When RRI drops down to the .3 to .2 area the market is over-sold and ripe to turn up. Over-sold indicators are more reliable at predicting an immediate swing to the upside than over-bought indicators are in predicting immediate declines. I have a theory on why this is so but won’t bore everyone with it right here.
    Money can be made in either direction with the advent of ETFs that are both leveraged and go either in a bullish or bearish direction. An “inverse” ETF can be used to short a market segment, making money as the market declines.
    The volume of trading (liquidity) in these ETFs is so large that there is rarely more than a one cent spread between bid and ask and one can always get in or out of a position on a moments notice.
    All of the above, of course, will come to a screeching halt when TLE arrives and TSHTF.

  325. nameta9 January 17, 2013 at 2:53 am #

    The Universe invents Itself …
    We are the way the Universe looks at itself. But how much of itself does it need to look at itself ? and what part is the Observer and what part is the Subject ? And how much does the Universe have to use to look at itself ? And how does the view change according to how much of itself it uses (or chooses to use) to look at itself ? So the Observer can be in the form of a group of many similar point like Observers interacting between themselves and the parts of the Universe that are not the Observers (like a civilization on a planet ? ) or the Observer(s) can be diffused under another form, any other imaginable, incredible and crazy form, or it could be a set of photons that acquire consciousness and so forth. And the Observer may be the entire Universe “looking at itself” or more properly “interacting with itself” and so forth. And how does the Universe delimit the Observer from the other parts of itself ? what does it consider inside and outside, what is independent and dependent (what constitutes a surprise, something it can’t “predict” against something it has under control ?), what is the Objective Reference system it decides to assign, the ground state, in order to measure some other parts of itself against itself ? and so forth…
    Is it all just a trick of the mind, just logic that self manipulates itself and gives the impression of being deeper and more important, more “Iconiclastic” than what it is ? applying small sequences of symbols to the entire Universe and such ? Or is there something real and deep within these ideas ?
    SO the laws of physics are discovered by the Universe itself, it establishes patterns and repetitions, but why did it decide to measure itself according to Space – Time dimensions ? why didn’t it choose anything else ? it has no exterior or fundamental constraint upon itself, so it could have chosen anything at all, it can invent anything at all, and in fact our view and decoding and repetitions and “Laws of Physics” we, the Universe “looking at itself” (or better yet “manipulating itself, talking to itself and so forth”) established is just one of any, one of a million others that the Universe can choose to have, can choose to self invent, just another view from an Abstraction Kit that has no contraints and fundamental Absolutes within itself limiting itself (and outside of itself, within the “Space”, the container containing the Universe) in any way, Objective laws it must abide to, since it invents (and can keep on inventing new laws) its own laws, it can do anything it wants, after all it is the Universe, all, it is the superset of all and decompose itself and decode itself and choose anything it wants in anyway it wants. And in fact the Universe can choose to have an electron as the Observer of itself, or a bit in a computer, or a set of bits, or a planet size modified brains, or the entire Universe as the Observer of itself (one to one size, or an imagined trillion to one contraption, the universe invents a contraption trillions of times its size and complexity to observe itself and so forth and all the combinations in between, you invent it, the more wild and crazy and colorful the better) or a network, or all kinds of modified brains, or all kinds of Manipulated “Matter that interacts with itself” and so forth.
    Hence crack open skulls, stick a V8 Cadillac Engine inside of it, you will enter a new Universe, it will be an new instantiation of a new way for the Universe to look at itself, a new view amongst many trillions of arbitrary, invented, simply assigned (like assigning a variable to a memory location in a computer) views, many trillions of new Universes, new Designs, new Brain Styles, with new Laws of Physics since the universe looks at itself through arbitrarily chosen decodings, hence laws of physics, hence Information Relationships, hence Experience Sets.
    THE 8 MAN
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  327. nameta9 January 17, 2013 at 6:14 am #

    “Since this experience of time travel is only an information relationship, an information transaction of Mass – Energy with itself, an information exchange of chunks of Mass – Energy with other chunks of Mass – Energy, the same system of modifying information relationships that create the experience of a close encounter with an alien civilization can be used to create information relationships that create the experience of time travel in any direction, both in the future or past. Acutally time travel would be just a particular combination in the cube of mass – energy self manipulating.”
    Because I discovered how to Time Travel: Just make believe you time travel and you got it licked, just lie to yourself and you got it licked, just fake it and you got it licked, just pretend and you got it licked. And then don’t start saying you can distinguish lies from truth…

  328. SNAFU January 17, 2013 at 9:09 am #

    Howdy Progressr. There is a neat new software device online now-a-days called “Google Maps” you ought to check it out because had you done so you would have instantly recognized that Albany is roughly 100 miles from any coast. Perhaps you were confusing the Atlantic coastline with the shores of the Hudson River. Cuomo is the Governor of the State of NY not the City of NY and the bills he signed into law affect the State of NY within the boundaries of, I believe, NYC continues to be contained.
    Interestingly you profess that you would be willing to support a State of NY style gun control for the entire USA if the USA starts denying immigrants (especially illegal I assume) and drugs (especially illegal I assume) easy access to the USA.
    Is this not the selfsame Progressor who a year or more ago was bemoaning the fact that Georgia’s extreme position on immigrants (especially illegal I assume) was putting the “poor” farmers of Georgia into extreme financial difficulties because they could not find help (white folks) willing to work for the paltry wages they were accustomed to paying the immigrants (especially illegal I assume)? Ahhh for the “good old days” when slavery was “King” eh? When did that time honored institution end down there in the deep South? Oh yes late 30’s early 40’s when the US entered WWII kicking and screaming no, no, no!
    What’s that? You think I am full of shit? Check it out. Virtually all of the Southern States rigged their laws on the books to enable the reintroduction of slavery after recovering from the US Civil War such that any person (as long as that person was black) could be put in irons and sold, traded, auctioned to the local farmers/plantation owners into perpetual indentured servitude “legally” in accordance with the trumped up laws of said Southern States.
    So Progressor, as you have pointed out repeatedly on this blog, you are a man of considerable means and you love living in the South especially in Georgia. How so did you come by this wealth the time honored American way having it handed down to you? If so how much of that which was handed down was accumulated by your parents, grandparents, etc. via the second round of Southern slavery?
    You want effective drug (especially illegal I assume) control how about the USA legalizes it (kinda like alcohol) taxes it and takes the enormous profit out of the wink, wink problem for all of those poor stupid bastards who are addicted. Of course that will reduce jobs (especially for those good ole white boys) hunting down those druggies and their low level suppliers (now don’t be putting hands on those rich white boys who run the show in the USA) otherwise known as cops (so named for the copper shields they once carried), police, gendarmerie (lets not leave out a bit of a military connection); plus all those ludicrously named “corrections” officers. Oh the injustice of it, think of all of the building contractors and merchandise supplies who would not have government contracts (hey, now there is a way for conservatives to shrink government) to slap their “dunlaps” over as they sidle up to the public feeding through; Merde!
    Are the Mexicans selling guns to folks in the USA? I was unaware of that problem. I was under the misunderstanding that we sold them guns so they could protect their shipments of (especially illegal I assume) drugs to the USA. Who Knew? I reckon the Progrssor knows; praise be to the gods.

  329. HenryMorgan January 17, 2013 at 9:30 am #

    All kinds of new laws in New York. No reason now why I cannot walk around Bed-Stuy, the South Bronx, or East NY with impunity. What’s that, you wouldn’t recommend it? OK then, I won’t go. I’m sure billionaires Diane Feinstein and Michael Bloomberg travel with their heavily armed security details. God Bless ’em. As for us ‘little people’, well, that’s a different story. We’ll take our chances out here. If anything bad happens that’s just tough shit for you.

  330. Collapse Watch January 17, 2013 at 9:33 am #

    What’s real and what’s not these days…or any daze?…
    And we’re to trust the MSM with accurate reporting on the Sandy Hook Massacre? As Bill Cosby’s Noah said to God when God asked him to build the ark, “Right!!”

  331. stelmosfire January 17, 2013 at 10:05 am #

    Hi CW, My wife got me this tee-shirt for Christmas. Some people don’t get it at all. I guess they missed the movie..

  332. ozone January 17, 2013 at 11:16 am #

    “I’m sure billionaires Diane Feinstein and Michael Bloomberg travel with their heavily armed security details.” -HM
    We know why this is, don’t we?
    It’s because they’re more worthy of protection, as they happen to be much more worthwhile (or something) than the rest of us lumpen ignoranti.
    Are we ready to find out who the anointed ones are? Under the guise of “reasonable legislation that’s for the publick’s own damn good” (and some selective confiscation) we’re about to find out.
    Keep a weather-eye out; very soon the clues will unintentionally drop like ripe plums out of the mouths of our leaders and their propaganda organs.
    ***Newsflash: Just heard the prez’dint of our Albany npr station (an elitist, Gt. Barrington asshole if ever there was one) ask a NY politician (who cares what his fucking name is… Bill Owens) about the strange phenomena of country cuzzinz and metropolitan folk having differing attitudes about gun rights. Lots and lots of tap-dancing going on here! Universal background checks are for “your protection”, don’cha know.
    BTW, what’s the ol’ Goldman Sachs net worth lookin’ like these fine days? Have they hired “She” yet to guard their gold-plated asses? (And, if not, why not? Those guys will be allowed to carry fully automatic weapons within the borders of the FUSA. Why will there be this special dispensation?)

  333. ozone January 17, 2013 at 11:21 am #

    I also like the one on the page below, that sez: “If you don’t sin, Jesus died for nothing.” ;o)

  334. asoka.. January 17, 2013 at 11:22 am #

    “I have never made but one prayer to God, a short one: “O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.” and God granted it.” –Voltaire

  335. Kyooshtik January 17, 2013 at 11:28 am #

    SNAFU, speaking of Georgia:
    Did you notice the news item on Clarence Thomas two days ago? It seems he made his first public utterance during Supreme Court proceedings in something like 7 years. There is much speculation as to what he actually said because there were several people talking over top of one another at the same time. As best they can figure he cracked some kind of a joke related to all of the SC justices having their law degrees from either Yale or Harvard. This^ is all by way of preamble…I am coming to the point.
    Justice Thomas has often been asked WHY it is that he never utters a word during Court proceedings and it turns out he is extremely embarrassed about the sound of his deep south (Georgia) black accent.
    Frankly, I am amazed that if he is/was aware enough to recognize black vernacular as a problem he didn’t do something about it like taking Standard American English elocution lessons.
    And this brings me around to Asoka. Instead of devoting all your energies here at CFN making obscure references to swarthy far eastern gurus and decrying war and violence (both of which have had no visible impact on the CFN readership from what I can tell), why not do something eminently practical where you can see your efforts bear fruit in your own lifetime. Namely, go out among your people and explain the harm they do themselves speaking Ebonics and thumbing their noses at the Standard American English of “the Man.”

  336. HenryMorgan January 17, 2013 at 11:38 am #

    NPR? Now theres some f—g parasites if there ever were any. They speak with that peculiar, feminine High New England diction. How does one learn to talk like that? I first encountered it at Wesleyan University. And how about the names of the people on staff? The more 3rd world sounding, the better. Know it all, condescending, elitist grasping sonsofbitches, not only living off Govt. largesse, they paved the way and showed everybody else how its done.

  337. Collapse Watch January 17, 2013 at 11:42 am #

    Like it! It reminds me of this scene with Larry King and Marlon Brando.

  338. Collapse Watch January 17, 2013 at 11:47 am #

    not only living off Govt. largesse

    Not true. A very minor percentage of their operating funds come from the gubmint. Most is from private donations, and increasingly, those private donations are corporate in nature, and with corporate money, comes control of the message.
    Agree with the characterization, otherwise.

  339. Collapse Watch January 17, 2013 at 11:52 am #

    In support of the above comment. And, to add, for what little the federal government does give to NPR, it gets a much larger say in the programming and its content.

  340. Collapse Watch January 17, 2013 at 12:22 pm #

    Remember traveling in the South after watching that movie and seeing all those gay bars along the interstate….in every damn city! They call it the Cracker Barrel. Can you believe that? Cracker is right there in the title, and they’re ass-raping unsuspecting tourists who think they’re just going in for a bite to eat. Instead, they come out hollerin and a squealing like the pigs they are. Sick freaks is what they are. One of the signs out front says “pretty mouths are welcome.” Weirdo inbreds. These are Radu’s people. Figures.

  341. stelmosfire January 17, 2013 at 1:08 pm #

    Howdy O3, She also got me this one which I can’t wear in public unless I want to get shanked by a lunatic christian.It is a big hit at family gatherings though. They all be chuch goin’ types. I annoy the shit out of ’em.

  342. HenryMorgan January 17, 2013 at 1:13 pm #

    Notice oil is headed back up toward $100 per barrel.
    So much for the ‘Recovery of 2013’.

  343. Kyooshtik January 17, 2013 at 2:00 pm #

    Notice oil is headed back up toward $100 per barrel.
    CNBC blames it on the trouble in Mali.

  344. San Jose Mom 51 January 17, 2013 at 2:08 pm #

    Charles de Gaulle once said, “How can anyone govern a nation with 246 different kinds of cheese?”
    What is the most common French military salute?
    Two arms up in the air.

  345. San Jose Mom 51 January 17, 2013 at 2:14 pm #

    I read Fred’s diatribe against American women. It was horribly funny! He talked out angry feminists having the appeal of a “menopausing crocodile.”
    OMG!!! Totally describes my neighbor!

  346. Collapse Watch January 17, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

    CNBC blames it on the trouble in Mali.

    What hogwash. It’s clearly because of the flu epidemic. Or better yet, aim’s off due to a case of Dart Elbow.

  347. progress4conserving January 17, 2013 at 2:17 pm #

    “Albany is roughly 100 miles from any coast.”
    -snafu, referencing google maps-
    Actually, snaf, I should have referenced this wiki page, instead so as to have disabused myself of the notion that New York City was the capital of NY State. My bad.
    Moving on – you did not notice the “sarcasm on/off” designation in my original post, did you?
    The point of the sarcasm was to say that the US government should not be making a new class of criminals out of existing US gun owners who presently own or wish to buy items that are due to become “newly banned,” by Obama and the Syncophants.
    IOW, we don’t need new laws in this area, we need to ENFORCE THE LAWS WE HAVE.
    And that goes double for immigration laws.*
    I’m joining the NRA, today, by the way.
    $35 – cool hat, cool decal, choice of magazines
    And I actually agree with you regarding drug legalization.
    When drugs are outlawed, only outlaws will have drugs – or something like that. 😉
    And as regards my “riches” being due to my forebears owning slaves – –
    I get the argument. Only problem is, you should make the exact same argument that your “riches,” are due to the resources stolen from the original native Americans. (Such original inhabitants long since dead, along with your original ancestors who did the stealing. And saying you emigrated to the US after the theft is just like saying I was born after the slavery.)
    Is the past ever to be past, in other words?
    Or is American history now just a set of grievances that can never be set right?
    * “Is this not the selfsame Progressor who a year or more ago was bemoaning the fact that Georgia’s extreme position on immigrants (especially illegal I assume) was putting the “poor” farmers of Georgia into extreme financial difficulties because they could not find help (white folks) willing to work for the paltry wages…”
    No, I’ve never “bemoaned” that. If anything I’ve never wanted anything except LOWER growth and HIGHER agricultural prices due to higher priced labor – because what we have now WILL eventually BE unsustainable.
    And lower growth in Georgia also means LOWER rents, LOWER timber prices, and a general reduction in my personal standard of living.
    That’s a sacrifice I’m more than willing to make.
    I wish others were willing to sacrifice something now – for a better future.
    Apparently, that’s inhuman, too.

  348. nameta9 January 17, 2013 at 2:24 pm #


  349. nameta9 January 17, 2013 at 2:26 pm #

    Actually if you were reading carefully my infinite knowledge, if you were listening in the classroom you would know by now that I don’t have faith in Technology: I have faith in insanity, in crazy, I don’t want the coming Technological Singularity to occur by machines becoming ever more intelligent until they design a machine more intelligent than man and a positive feedback loop kicks in creating ever capable brains and minds ever faster and in a jiffy the new machine brains would enter a singularity so far removed from the Ape Stone Age contraption our brain is (although it could occur this way) that a new entity and world would be born, another step in “Natural Evolution”: No, I want to stick wild things in our brains as they are, stick engines and chips, crack open skulls and experiment like crazy, not using logic or reasoning but just randomly combining all kinds of elements together, wild symbols, wild chemicals, wild signals and wild circuits like a MAD SCIENTIST.
    And by just randomly sticking the most contorted and crazy stuff in brains, those brains will enter a new universe, so far removed from anything, they will enter a tremendous new universe incredible and so advanced, so crazy, way more than the other machine brains that are coming from that other, more traditional path of machines ever more intelligent…
    TOBOR 8

  350. Collapse Watch January 17, 2013 at 2:27 pm #

    Georgia’s growth is Atlanta’s growth, and Atlanta’s growth was predicated upon making its airport international and catering to Delta for its southern hub. Without that move, Georgia would be just like Alabama…..or gasp….Mississippi.

  351. anti soak January 17, 2013 at 2:51 pm #

    See :
    Trying For NPR Job? Helps To Be Named ‘Ari Shapiro”
    Jan 13, 2012
    In a bid for ‘equality’ ? NPR hired 2 Ari Shapiros,
    one straight, one homo.

  352. Radu Voda January 17, 2013 at 3:03 pm #

    Why do you feel the need to do this? Really? All things have a limit, including vulgarity. It’s like a buddy who wont stop ranking on you – at some pont you know it’s not a joke anymore if it ever was.
    You are with the real Leftist Monsters if you laugh at their jokes and wear their regalia.

  353. Radu Voda January 17, 2013 at 3:06 pm #

    So you are a Homophobe like Ozone – as long as its Conservative Whites that is. Black and Liberal Homos are sacred.
    Do you also support the 2nd Ammendment like Ozone? Or is that where the chasm between Libertarians and Communists opens?

  354. Radu Voda January 17, 2013 at 3:09 pm #

    Yeah I wouldn’t even sleep with them “on the phone” (college football bozo tricked into sleeping “on the phone” with real fake girlfriend.

  355. Radu Voda January 17, 2013 at 3:13 pm #

    As one Frenchman said, Whites like this have Mental AIDS. They are refining themselves out of existence and hate all Whites who aren’t doing the same. To people like this, Homosexuality is natural, as is abortion, mass immigration, and all other unnatural things.
    In contrast, Aquinas said that Grace seeks to perfect Nature, not destroy it.

  356. asoka.. January 17, 2013 at 3:14 pm #

    I feel your pain. But it is Obama’s fault, not just George Bush’s fault. By making most Bush tax cuts permanent, Obama gave away the massive bargaining chip he could have used to protect safety net programs in the next negotiating round. Now, thanks to his pre-emptive capitulation, austerity advocates hold all the cards. As you say, Marlin, “So much for the ‘Recovery of 2013’.”
    But things are not all bad… well, not for everyone. The rich are going to make out like bandits. While Obama’s latest deal extends unemployment insurance, this temporary relief is overwhelmed by massive, permanent gifts to the super-rich. Here are some examples of what Obama has done:
    Estate taxes have been repealed for all but the wealthiest 0.1 percent with a whopping $10.5 million per couple exemption.
    Low capital gains and dividends rates are now locked in at 15-20 percent, ensuring that billionaire bosses everywhere will pay lower tax rates than their secretaries.
    Among new corporate favors, Obama’s deal retained one of the loopholes that multinational firms are using to dodge taxes on their foreign subsidiaries — an incentive to export jobs that cost us $1.1 billion in 2012. Meanwhile, vulnerable workers are hit with a big increase in Social Security payroll taxes, as rates revert to 2010 levels.
    The fig leaf Obama provided to cover this surrender is a token tax increase on wealthy households earning over $450,000 per year. This marks a brazen retreat from his promise to raise taxes on those earning over $250,000, a meager reform to begin with in a tax system already rife with favors for the rich.
    In this past round of budget bargaining, Obama proposed alarming cuts to key safety net programs that will be considered in upcoming negotiations. This tossed aside another key promise: to protect Social Security. It comes as nearly half of Americans are either low-income or living in poverty, and one in three seniors relies on Social Security to stay out of poverty.
    Obama also offered to slash needed reductions in bloated military spending from $500 billion over 10 years, the amount included in the 2011 budget deal, to a mere $100 billion.
    Obama cannot be trusted either domestically or in his “drone bomb” foreign policy. Obama has become as bad as George W. Bush.

  357. Radu Voda January 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm #

    The man who played that role in Deliverance had his life changed by it. For decades after, men shouted insults at him on the street. Perhaps karmic justice for the gross insult to the Honor of the South.
    Meanwhile countless White Men are raped in prison every year. You probably find that funny too, don’t ya? Spiritually speaking, humor is dangerous, turning very negative very quickly. Would you laugh a Women being raped? Then why do it when men are?

  358. dale January 17, 2013 at 3:44 pm #

    New report from the World Future Energy Summit in Abu Dhabi regarding the potential of solar energy to provide 100% of world energy needs by 2050 utilizing 1% of world’s land.–new-WWF-report-says-land-requirements-are-insignificant
    Sorry if it ruins your or anything.

  359. Jam47 January 17, 2013 at 3:45 pm #

    Women treat men disdainfully because they don’t respect men. Why would they? No one respects a beggar, and that’s what men are, beggars. They spend half their lives trotting after women with their tongues hanging out, begging for sex.
    If the bad treatment that American men receive from women upsets them as much, harms them as much as they claim that it does, the capacity to spare themselves such harm is entirely theirs–if they have the will. All they need do is retire from the field. And the field I have in mind is the one upon which men and women play the game of sex.
    If men were to refuse all sexual contact with women, women would soon fall at their feet. What I’m talking about, of course, is a sex strike. The strike would last as long as it takes for women to change their ways.
    Now, I’m not so backward as not to realize that a society in which men disengaged from women would be a society on the verge of anarchy. What would happen to marriage? Wouldn’t families shatter? What about the workplace?
    If a no-sex-with-women movement were to be launched by a majority of men, launched as an ideal and as a fact, things would get very weird very quickly. I understand this. But no revolution worth the name is without risk.
    OK. The sex strike stuff more or less preposterous. But it’s there for a purpose, which purpose is to soften up whatever readers I have for the following simple idea: As long as men continue to worship women, women will continue bringing down the whip. As this idea is as old as civilization, why are so many men ignorant of it?

  360. Kyooshtik January 17, 2013 at 3:52 pm #

    OMG!!! Totally describes my neighbor!
    Are we talking about that bitch, Barbie?
    Barbie with the big bazooms and the wonderful female mamma protuberances?
    Barbie, whom we suspect of gaining promotions via the casting couch and private pole dancing shows?
    The Barbie I occasionally fantasize about?
    Nah. I think you’re talking about some other neighbor.

  361. Kyooshtik January 17, 2013 at 4:08 pm #

    Obama has become as bad as George W. Bush.
    Are you OK Asoka? Have you fallen down the stairs and injured your skull or something?

  362. whitehunter January 17, 2013 at 4:15 pm #

    As the Hamilton biographer Ron Chernow noted, :”Slavery was well entrenched in much of the north” and “New York and New Jersey retained significant slave populations” long after the Revolution. “New York City, in particular, was indented with slavery…and was linked through its sugar refineries in the West Indies.” By the late 1790’s one in five New York City households, like Hamilton’s, still held domestic slaves,” who were “regarded as status symbols” by the wealthier and more aristocratic New Yorkers. Slavery was not ended in New York City until the early 1850s.
    This is from “Hamilton’s curse by Thomas J. DiLorenzo
    I think that slavery was not more widespread the the north because, some states, such as Ilinois, had laws that prohibited black people form coming into the state at all.

  363. San Jose Mom 51 January 17, 2013 at 4:34 pm #

    I’m not talking about Silicon Valley Barbie! The crocodile woman is the stuff of nightmares! She is 250 pounds of poison. She has two daughters who push out babies like hamsters–five grandchildren since Obama was elected the first time.
    Her oldest daughter, Skankzilla, is legend. She prefers black men (her two kids have different fathers) who are losers. I’ve loathed Skankzilla since her boyfriend (not a father, amused her between pregnancies) gave my son free pot at the neighborhood 4th of July party, in hopes of selling him pot on a regular basis.
    I could go on, and on, and on…..

  364. Kyooshtik January 17, 2013 at 4:39 pm #

    Skankzilla, is legend
    OK, well, there go my fantasies.

  365. Jam47 January 17, 2013 at 4:48 pm #

    Actually P4C, a certain notorious drug is already legal. I’m talking about LSD. As you very likely know, LSD comes from ergot, which is a mould, a mould that grows on cereal grains, rye in particular. I state this for those who don’t know.
    The millions of Americans who eat out-of-the-box cereals every morning for breakfast have been-acid tripping for years, day in and day out. Now, though the LSD toxicity consequent on daily cereal eating is mild, it’s continuous. America has millions of acid-heads. That these millions are unaware that they’re Learyites doesn’t alter the ways in which their daily LSD ration affects their behaviour. And surely it must.
    Since cereals are eaten all over the world, and have been for thousands of years, mass LSD poisoning has most certainly affected the course of history, in small ways if not in large ones. Take the case of St Vitus Dance. Religious hysteria is the old explanation. The new explanation is religious obsession plus LSD, the second making more intense the first.

  366. asoka_ January 17, 2013 at 5:03 pm #

    Sarcasm on, right?
    If not, then what were you smokin’ when you came up with this?

  367. asoka.. January 17, 2013 at 5:09 pm #

    You be a techno-miraculist, dale. Don’t you know oil is needed to fabricate the solar panels?

  368. asoka.. January 17, 2013 at 5:12 pm #

    Maybe you missed that I supported Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party for President, not the Democratic or Republican candidates.
    Of course, you never believed that for a minute. You thought I would switch back to Obama at the last minute.
    You were wrong about that.

  369. Iona Laundramat January 17, 2013 at 5:13 pm #

    Let me know what your favorite Jack Reacher novel is, if you would.
    Skankzilla sounds like a nightmare, like something right out of the ghetto.
    You should drop by Iona’s Clean, Fluff, and Fold Emporium sometime.

  370. asoka.. January 17, 2013 at 5:15 pm #

    Jam47, asoka_ (underscore) is not asoka.. (dot dot) but he or she is having fun impersonating me. There is only one real asoka.. and that is asoka.. (dot dot) and even one is one more than is needed.

  371. asoka.. January 17, 2013 at 5:20 pm #

    jam47, you are right about the LSD in cereals.
    In my case, I eat organic granola with rice milk, and then I don’t even see national borders!

  372. asoka.. January 17, 2013 at 5:20 pm #

    jam47, you are right about the LSD in cereals.
    In my case, I eat organic granola with rice milk, and then I don’t even see national borders!

  373. asoka.. January 17, 2013 at 5:34 pm #

    To clarify, I see rivers, mountains, etc.
    Those have been arbitrarily designated as “borders” even though you see no country names on either side in NASA photos.

  374. asoka.. January 17, 2013 at 5:35 pm #

    To clarify, I see rivers, mountains, etc.
    Those have been arbitrarily designated as “borders” even though you see no country names on either side in NASA photos.

  375. San Jose Mom 51 January 17, 2013 at 5:35 pm #

    My favorite Jack Reacher book is “Bad Luck and Trouble.”
    One of these days, I’ll meander down to Aptos!

  376. Radu Voda January 17, 2013 at 5:55 pm #

    There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are in your Philsophy, Horatio – or in your columns of numbers.

  377. Radu Voda January 17, 2013 at 6:04 pm #

    The Ideal of Chivalry’s influence endured and influenced secular Europe. With the arrival of the Enlightenment and prosperity, it really caught fire in England and spread to the Middle Class as it formed – as they are always imitative of their betters.
    This Ideal is only sane as long as Men dominate. Once Men no longer do, it just becomes submission and slavery. Show of hands – how many of you knelt to your girlfriend when you asked her to “marry” (a slave contract since no fault) you?
    The Marriage strike by Men has been noted and FemDom is alarmed – as are their “Conservative” Male allies. Another killing blow would a male birth controll pill. The Sex Strike would be superb too – but perhaps beyond most men’s ability.

  378. Radu Voda January 17, 2013 at 6:09 pm #

    Was it Mencken (a fascist btw) who said, “The more I know of men the more I love dogs.”

  379. Soul Pucker January 17, 2013 at 6:15 pm #

    Sending as sa ult g, un owners a letter telling them “To Report” and give up their gu, ns is basically the same as sending a letter “To Report” to the train station for the train to Aus, shwit, z, right?
    Same result….

  380. ozone January 17, 2013 at 6:23 pm #

    “Who has what we want, and where will we find them/it?”
    It’s all so very innocuous… until the statutes of “na..shu-nal;;;s’cure’dy are codified.
    Then… all bets are off; the house wins.

  381. Radu Voda January 17, 2013 at 6:26 pm #

    Sounds like a brothel or a cover for one.

  382. Radu Voda January 17, 2013 at 6:31 pm #

    Courage! The Northeast is lost but not the Redoubt in the Rocky Mountains.
    Just leave your Anarchism and Christophobia back East where you found it. You can’t just go to a new place – you also have to become a new man.

  383. jonathanss. January 17, 2013 at 6:49 pm #

    I’m in agreement on most of your post, but I am confused about this:

    Estate taxes have been repealed for all but the wealthiest 0.1 percent with a whopping $10.5 million per couple exemption.

    Here is a table with past & future estate tax rates:
    Year Estate Tax Exemption Top Estate Tax
    1997 $600,000 55%
    1998 $625,000 55%
    1999 $650,000 55%
    2000 $675,000 55%
    2001 $675,000 55%
    2002 $1,000,000 50%
    2003 $1,000,000 49%
    2004 $1,500,000 48%
    2005 $1,500,000 47%
    2006 $2,000,000 46%
    2007 $2,000,000 45%
    2008 $2,000,000 45%
    2009 $3,500,000 45%
    2010 $5,000,000 or $0 35% or 0%
    2011 $5,000,000 35%
    2012 $5,120,000 35%
    2013 $5,250,000 40%
    I didn’t think that a married couple could each claim the $5.25M exemption, unless they divorced & split the estate.
    If one is interested in reducing the wealth gap via progressive taxation, than Obama is worse than Bush or Clinton.

  384. Soul Pucker January 17, 2013 at 6:53 pm #

    I just bought Ju..lia,n As,sa n,ge’s new book “Cyp,,her,p..unks”.
    I guess that like mindless ants they’ll just keep building the Internet sur,,ve ill,,ance state thinking that they’re in control until one day when the Internet suddenly becomes self-aware and conscious.
    And then…they’ll shit their pants….

  385. jonathanss. January 17, 2013 at 6:53 pm #

    From my understanding, the estate tax only kicks in when both of the married couples die. A surviving spouse retains the full estate value, in other words.

  386. San Jose Mom 51 January 17, 2013 at 6:56 pm #

    You have the personality of a dried booger.

  387. ozone January 17, 2013 at 7:23 pm #

    Okay then, you win for this weeks’ most incisive retort to a paid, serial liar.
    Good ‘un; something damn near came out of MY nose upon reading that! ;o)

  388. ozone January 17, 2013 at 7:35 pm #

    “Those pesky youmanz are far too high maintenance and wasteful of resources to be tolerated for another parsec!”
    {Shades of Da Teur-minador}
    …Oopsie, here I thought it was all about Growth and Progress. No? If not, are we lavishing enough taxpayer lucre on the Dee-oh-Dee to keep us safe from highly polished, corrosion-resistant surfaces?

  389. Lucky 13 January 17, 2013 at 7:58 pm #

    ‘I’ve loathed Skankzilla since her boyfriend…..’
    Maybe loathe the guy, and go to the Police about him
    as well.

  390. xport January 17, 2013 at 8:02 pm #

    Here I go again with my antique look at things:
    Back in the day, we would go to the matinee at the neighborhood theater, the Hobart, where you could spend an afternoon giving your parents a break, and safely watch a double feature, including animated cartoons before each feature. We learned to love Roy Rodgers and Dale Evans, and Rin Tin Tin, Zorro, and the Magnificent Seven. The King and I, the sound of music, and West Side Story. On tv there was the million dollar movie, which played over and over for the entire week. The seven voyages of sinbad the sailor, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Beau Gest, King Kong, Casa blanca, From Here to eternity, The Charge of the light brigade, Frankenstein, Dracula, the mummy, the Marx brothers, and Charlie Chaplin, it was all on the tube, and we were mesmerized by it and inspired. We would imitate the actors, and play out the scenes in our living room. It is all still fresh in my mind.

  391. SNAFU January 17, 2013 at 8:59 pm #

    Agree completely about the widespread use of slavery throughout much of the US before and after the emancipation proclamation; although, as I pointed out the deep South reverted back to a form of slavery via laws which in effect put every black person in jeopardy primarily through vagrancy laws which made all black people vagrants unless they were sponsored by a white person. When farmers/plantation owners put out the word that they needed workers law enforcement personnel would be dispatched to kidnap/arrest suitable candidates who were then sold/rented/leased/given to the white requester and this barbary continued well into the 20th century in the deep South.
    Various estimates by law enforcement agencies put 20,000 to 2 million persons in similar situations in the US today.

  392. Jam47 January 17, 2013 at 9:07 pm #

    Never heard of sick-building syndrome? In sick-building syndrome, it’s not the building that gets sick, but the person who lives in the building.
    The building can be a house or an apartment block. Doesn’t matter. What matters is that there’s a duct system that distributes warm air in winter and cool air in summer. These systems are very accommodating to the growth of mould. The mould ends up in the lungs and bloodstreams and organic tissue of the people who live in these buildings. If the mould and the physiological arrangement of those persons are a mismatch, they get sick, mildly sick or seriously sick. And they stay sick until either the mould is cleaned out or they find another place to live. The point I’m making is that mould can wreck your health. And it can also kill you in short order.
    Ever heard of aflatoxin? It’s a mould that peanuts produce. Swallow a measure of it, which measure is easily contained in a handful of peanuts, and it will turn your liver and/or kidneys to mush and you into a corpse. And this will happen in a matter of days.
    There are numerous kinds of mould. They thrive in places that are dark and wet. Bathrooms are one of their favorite hangouts. They grow in very many prepared foods as well. And what they have in common, most of them, is that they don’t care for human beings at all.
    If the mould problem were limited to mild LSD poisoning, we could count ourselves lucky.

  393. stelmosfire January 17, 2013 at 9:25 pm #

    Hey Radu. I might have posted this before. I don’t give a shit. Black or white. This kitten Left Eyes, purr drives me crazy. She died in a car crash back in the day.

  394. asoka_ January 17, 2013 at 10:27 pm #

    Yes, I get the idea of mold in a building affecting you. But I’ve taken acid, and I’ve eaten cereal, too. Never got high from the cereal. LSD is synthesized from the ergot fungus. It doesn’t occur naturally in high enough concentrations to be noticeable when ingesting cereal.

  395. Zed Leppt In January 17, 2013 at 11:18 pm #

    Interesting story today in job outsourcing to China: Andrew Valentine, a team leader in Verizon’s forensic and investigative unit, wrote of an unusual case on his blog. A software engineer earning a six figure salary (identified only as “Bob”) and working for a US IT firm (unnamed) was caught outsourcing his workload to a Chinese consulting firm which he paid less than a fifth of his annual earnings. The scam was discovered when an audit was done on the company’s virtual private network which was setup to allow staff to log in and work from home occasionally. There was an unusual amount of network traffic coming in from China, so the company called their network provider, Verizon, for help. While on site, the Verizon investigators observed Bob’s open network account being accessed from the Shenyang, China while Bob was right there at his desk looking at his monitor. The jig was up.
    “Based on his web-browsing history, a typical “workday” for Bob was: arrive at 9am and surf Reddit or watch cat videos for a couple of hours; take lunch at 11.30am; go on eBay at 1pm; view Facebook updates and LinkedIn at around 2pm; send an update e-mail to management at 4.40pm; and go home at 5pm.” A search of his workstation revealed numerous PDF invoices from the Chinese consulting firm.
    Bob was a quiet and unassuming employee who consistently earned stellar performance ratings quarter after quarter and had even received a “best developer in the building” award”. This story appeared in the Chinese press, generating a great deal of interest amongst users of Chinese social networking sites who see this as a great incentive to learn English as soon as possible to further their own careers (earn Yankee dollars without the fuss of immigrating I suppose).
    That’s what I call initiative. Why wait for your boss to send your job overseas when you can do it yourself?

  396. Zed Leppt In January 18, 2013 at 12:12 am #

    I’m Reassessing my final resting place plans after reading about the latest development in casket technology. A Swedish inventor has created the “CataTomb”, a WiFi-equipped internment system that allows the deceased to continue enjoying their favorite music in the grave – or at least allows their decaying corpse to keep on rockin’ in the underworld. The casket is fitted with audiophile quality speakers which receive a signal from a server in the headstone. An LCD screen lets family and friends (or enemies) see what the deceased is being serenaded with. Price is a mere $31,000. I haven’t found any details on how this is powered though, solar cells on the headstone perhaps? I imagine cemetery owners would frown upon extension cords strung out to graves.
    This could be the next big thing in the undertaking business. Imagine a purpose built high tech graveyard where every grave has power and internet access so loved ones can just log on to visit their dearly departed and leave a message or a digital wreath. Animated headstone displays, activated by a motion sensor, could play pre-recorded messages from the dead. Hopefully, when I’m ready to be planted, there will be a two-way video link in addition to the audio so passersby can see my rotting remains on a HiDef screen and wave to me. Or, I may just have my head replaced with an animatronic prosthesis that sings along with the tunes: I just have to decide on the right tunes. How about Barry Manilow singing Buried Man Below? Wait, that’s not really song. Guess it’ll just be Stairway to Heaven by Zed Lepp…err…Led Zeppelin. (Hope I don’t check out like John Bonham did, barf, aack!)

  397. Lucky 13 January 18, 2013 at 12:52 am #

    Long ago I read of a boat that remained offshore with 1000 programmers on it.
    The story was it stayed offshore and the workers
    worked in shifts, just outside US territory.
    A web search did not turn up info on this urban

  398. Radu Voda January 18, 2013 at 1:42 am #

    Oh My Frau, what have I done to deserve this? For pennance, I will watch the movie My Beautiful Laundarette.
    What is so bad about a brothel anyway? Does it not serve a purpose, as does a Laundry? Are they not both service industries?

  399. nameta9 January 18, 2013 at 2:27 am #

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    The shame the shame—he loves the maid, every fiber perhaps, and what about in spare time do kind of research on the reality of absurdity where by absurdity is meant as 3 things.
    1st thing. Try to not to be bored by existential reduction to the level where reality becomes synonymous with a kind of spectrum.
    Spectra in such things as going from benevolence to aggression, then there is the real optical color spectra, then there is the spectra of social anxiety all the way to delusions, the spectra of circumstance from homelessness to opulence, the spectrum of projection to introjection, from heredity to environment,
    And all these are categorized, safely placed into compartments, some under lock and key, and this is reductive, they are errands, existential errands
    If bored read norman mailer,s existential errands,and meanwhile you magically promised with your whole heart and mind that you will love your tiny, abused grandchildren especially the little girl who loves swinging and swinging, and you know you can’t ever break that trust,
    And the maid, well she was abused as abusive, and she is like laurence Durell’s wife’s made, who was said to be a lesbian witch, ,
    And what tied that together in a dream kind of dali like as in the surrealism in one of Hitchcock’s film ,was a dream.:.:.: and it went like this–
    They were on a cruise to alaska (reminiscent of Ken Casey’s sailor song) and the seas were kind of rough coming into the port of Anchorage, and her dad was still alive then, and her dad told me a story of ending up as a beggar in the streets of asia, and his mom loved him but dad was abusive, and he was a runt, and although he had fifteen other siblings they all despised him, so ran. Away with a bag of rice his kindly mother gave him,
    So the seas were turbulent and had dream that the maid was surrounded by wild alaskan dogs, and she was on the ground her face smiling, either unaware or non caring, and a tremendous anxiety formed within my hear, and I thought I must save her from the dogs,and I went among them, a kind of jesus savior that only dogs understood, and thought maybe they are acting this way because she doesn’t like them or maybe because of antropologically, levi strauss said participation mystique, and I would die for her, and the dogs understood and they disbanded.
    Whenever I get bored I think of chester son or chatter ton lying on bed so romantic yet forlorn to live other people’s lives at the zenith of what it must necessarily mean.
    In her case it zen to think otherwise, in mine a reduction so profound that sometimes can think can kiss the sky, see there? she pointed to the clouds there is mount olympus.
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    Postby obe » Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:13 pm
    2nd thing forgot its not at all singular, durell’s sheltering sky, pirandello’s the man with the rose in his mouth, virginia woolf who is afraid, of her husband, even if her garden was not just simply an pretty english garden like emily dickinson’s: you knew about her husband deary? Don’t you? You know about dali too, don’t you,he worked it nicely you must say, in those long lingering afternoons with drapes open just so, that the particles of dust like small insectly golden said forlornly good by to the incidental rays cutting through, reminiscent of some of turner’s idyllic twilights, when trees were trees,
    Etcetera etcetera, and how closely reductive ly idyllic can it get. With the level of reduction where the diamonds embedded unto hollywood blvd(well their glitter is not of diamonds but sparkled anyhow). And the nearest bar smelled of good ale and it became dark for 20 years of cruising it? And then her, the goddess appeared, the gudess of punishment who forgave Narcissus after all,
    And finally 3. They had a golden son whom was killed the bars took him, and Martha out of who is afraid of virginia said did you, did you have to kill him,our golden haired beautiful son, of whose discontent this year, and every year,has been our only hope, our only refuge?
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    Postby nameta9 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:15 pm
    Who dare what God to remove the mask? Who
    Dare dare remove the god that veil who?
    Who veiled the god that was removed
    The cock who crowed early
    So that the early dewd. Morning?
    The zen that stood still as the. Prophetess,
    The delphi oracle of long standing,
    Besides happening right now, and it stills the night of
    Reason asking why? Wh(? Where? Who? Perhaps not
    Done by the illusion,
    But then is not this desire when cock nor crow,
    Stills, the night to know, in one drop through which
    All realised,bubble bubble nothing but trouble, a brew of certainty,
    Into which he asked one time to be or not,
    As though it’s difference was firmly established but waned later on
    So that others through and through may?
    As one, but is one, can have the faith of taking that
    Why how who when ?
    Because it is, and not because it isn’t. That’s an
    ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN FACT. Where can you go from here?
    (All the technology in all the worlds can never ever mimic this. This is what they mean when they speak of the Creation. We need not wait for it)
    This is what boredom is not.

  400. nameta9 January 18, 2013 at 2:31 am #

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  401. nameta9 January 18, 2013 at 2:32 am #

    tobor the eight man

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  405. Radu Voda January 18, 2013 at 4:21 am #

    Muslims patrol London suburb, confiscating alcohol and ordering scantily dressed women to go home. These are the People the Liberals love so much. Why? That’s a very deep psychological rabbit hole indeed since they hate Chritians for just passing out pamphlets or preaching in their own churches.
    In America, same thing with different variables. They are still raving about a Right Wing Christian takeover as the Republican Party crumbles and the Left triumphs. They’ve won but refuse to take responsibility for the coming disaster. The Banks have always funded the Left. That’s what Communism is. No? Then where did they get all the money to do what they’ve done? Face it Zone, Collapse, Wage, Turk, etc – you’ve been useful idiots and show every indication of continuing to be so.…

  406. Radu Voda January 18, 2013 at 4:25 am #

    Yes, a Confused Barbie indeed. As Freud said, modern woman is suffering from penis envy. They want to be the ramrod like the Black woman in Omega Man.

  407. k-dog January 18, 2013 at 6:21 am #

    I was thinking about a comment myself. The link to the loyal dog really got to me. However the moment of discombobulation was short when I recalled I’d only be letting a paid, serial liar yank my chain if I did. The quality of the textual diarrhea changes from day to day I’ve noticed leading me to think that the deliberate impediment efforts may involve shift changes.
    For fun lets see if I can invoke Tobor the 8 ape.
    Ray Kurzweil is an evil man who peddles lies. He wants to live forever and promotes belief in a fantasy, not based in reality where technical innovation picks up speed with time. He believes that a moment of singularity will come when the pace of innovation takes off with infinite speed and mankind evolves into godkind. Belief in this dangerous fantasy prevents rational discussion and action concerning how to keep the human experiment of civilization moving forward at all and denies our present crisis. This denial denies humanity a future. This magical thinking is symptomatic of the social diseases which will bring us to doom.
    Instant singularity my ass.
    It is twisted and sick to publish nonsense for the sole purpose of perverting conversation away from pressing social issues.
    Get ready for ‘incoming’.
    Of course saying incoming is expected may actually prevent it for a short time. Lets see what happens.

  408. Collapse Watch January 18, 2013 at 7:24 am #

    This could be the next big thing in the undertaking business. Imagine a purpose built high tech graveyard where every grave has power and internet access so loved ones can just log on to visit their dearly departed and leave a message or a digital wreath.

    It brings a whole new meaning to Floyd’s “and the worms ate into his brain” quote from The Wall album. I bet Myrtlemay is a big Floyd fan.
    Considering the prodigious die-off to come, this could be the next Bubble.

  409. Collapse Watch January 18, 2013 at 7:34 am #

    Homophobe? Not sure, but don’t think so. However, ass-rape doesn’t go well with the Chicken-Fried-Chicken smothered in country gravy. The mash potatoes, turnip greens, black-eyed peas and hash-brown casserole are a much better combo….and yes, of course, it’s a double dose of potatoes, but hell, that’s just the Irish shining through.
    Radu, you are obviously not what you portend to be. Your latest comments are those of a pure-blood Puritan….of the New England variety. They were a violent and humourless bunch, that lot, and so too are you….in the tradition, of course.

  410. HenryMorgan January 18, 2013 at 7:44 am #

    About 700 private jets are flying into Dulles IAP for the Inauguration, the majority from Hollywood. Babs herself will be on one, as well as George Clooney. Of course, they will arrive with well appointed entourages. Afterward comes the big, star-studded party that will go on late into the night. Its going to be great! Imagine … the food, the liquor, the dancing … just to get a glimpse of it would be to die for.

  411. asoka.. January 18, 2013 at 7:50 am #

    JonathanSS, you are right. I was confusing (conflating?) estate tax and gift and GST tax exemptions. For decedents dying after December 31, 2012, the estate tax exemption is set at $5 million, indexed for inflation from 2010. The inflation-adjusted estate tax exemption for decedents dying in 2013 is expected to be $5.25 million.
    The gift and GST tax exemptions are also set at $5 million, indexed for inflation from 2010. Thus, the 2013 gift and GST tax exemption amounts are expected to be $5.25 million per taxpayer ($10.5 million for married couples who elect to split gifts).

  412. asoka.. January 18, 2013 at 8:04 am #

    Afterward comes the big, star-studded party that will go on late into the night. Its going to be great! Imagine … the food, the liquor, the dancing … just to get a glimpse of it would be to die for.
    I can imagine that and it makes me happy for them.
    It’s so good of you, HM, to share some positive news on CFN about people enjoying themselves.
    When you can be happy about other peoples’ happiness, then you can overcome all cynicism, negative criticism, bitterness, etc. and life becomes lighter and full of joy.
    You have made my day brighter with this news, HM.
    Thank you!

  413. HenryMorgan January 18, 2013 at 8:13 am #

    One question Asoka. Obama is Jesus Christ, we understand that. But who is John the Baptist? Biden? Holder? My money is on Holder. He has that radiant, saintly glow about him.

  414. ozone January 18, 2013 at 8:29 am #

    I hear you barking in the distance, but it’s clear and it’s surprisingly loud. (Reading you 5×5.)
    (That 8ape was a valiant attempt, but far too well-reasoned. ;o)
    Let the warning growls commence. More and more of the populace are abandoning their false hopes. In facing the fanged grin of reality, how many will panic? That is an overarching factor assiduously ignored, and where ivory-towered theories die in the dust.
    “At some point, we’ll pay the price; we’ll run out of water.”
    There are further rumblings about resource depletion in other countries becoming a danger to
    the nat..nal secur’dy of the FUSA.
    Search on “peruvian water shortage”, and off into Wonderland you go!
    (Well, yeah, duh, this is what happens when you stick your muzzle in every foreign crotch and ass you see.)

  415. stelmosfire January 18, 2013 at 8:42 am #

    Lighten ‘up Francis, Get a sense of humor Vlad. It will make your life more enjoyable.

  416. HenryMorgan January 18, 2013 at 8:49 am #

    What about Al ‘Jazeera’ Gore?. I doubt if he will be rolling into Washington on a GreyHound Bus. No way! Private 747, private Lear Jet, or private Jetstream? That’s the decision he alone will have to make.

  417. Collapse Watch January 18, 2013 at 8:49 am #

    Its going to be great! Imagine … the food, the liquor, the dancing … just to get a glimpse of it would be to die for.

    I wonder if Adam Lanza’s father and brother will be invited. It’s the least the Administration should do, considering Adam sacrificed himself and other innocents for further gun control.

  418. stelmosfire January 18, 2013 at 9:18 am #

    Hey O3 a parsec is a distance measure, somthing a little over 3 light years, as I recall. I figured you used it as a time unit. OY man, I am sounding like “Q” now!I gotta get outside more!

  419. Collapse Watch January 18, 2013 at 9:24 am #

    Obama is Jesus Christ, we understand that. But who is John the Baptist?

    But of course, it is Bill Clinton. He paved/prepared the way for the Christ-Savior. That was an easy one.
    This is actually not too far-fetched. The Black neighbors across the street said in no uncertain terms, “Obama has been sent by God.” They really do believe he is the ordained Chosen One….and, of course, Bill was the 1st Black President…let’s not forget that.

  420. ozone January 18, 2013 at 9:24 am #

    What I wanna know is: Has Hollywood made the drone-piloting heroes heroic enough for one of them to be invited as a nice photo-op prop? If the festivities don’t include a nod [nudge and wink] to state-sanctioned murder, the celebrations will not be complete.
    Party on, Garth!
    (Oh, we’ve heard that Mrs. President is getting a new ‘do for the do. I know I’m excited, aren’t you?)

  421. ozone January 18, 2013 at 9:32 am #

    No worries; thanks. It takes an astronomy enthusiast to spot that in a nano-second…
    I probably meant a nano-second, and had a gear-slippage on the fabric of space-time! :o)
    A little over 3 light years, eh? Kinda makes a mockery of the question, “Are we there yet?”.

  422. ozone January 18, 2013 at 9:44 am #
    Whoa, Dude, you’re harshin’ my igno-bliss!
    Choom up and chill…

  423. stelmosfire January 18, 2013 at 9:53 am #

    Good stuff there robo writer! Impressive.

  424. asoka.. January 18, 2013 at 10:00 am #

    I agree. Obama is the chosen one
    (twice chosen by the American people!)
    Clinton’s is John the Baptist. And Bill’s aiming to be back in the White House in 2016.
    I’m aiming to have the first Green Party president in the White House.

  425. Collapse Watch January 18, 2013 at 10:16 am #

    (twice chosen by the American people!)

    Hardly. He wasn’t even chosen by a quarter of the population. Of course, same is true of most Presidents. Democracy’s a sham, and doesn’t work, if it ever did, in a Civilization as complex as the current iteration. These days, even the veneer of Democracy is wearing through, revealing the duplicity and deceit that it hides.

  426. asoka.. January 18, 2013 at 10:29 am #

    Obama was twice chosen by a MAJORITY of those who cared enough to vote.
    There were 417 candidates to choose from (I bet you didn’t know that… but then you didn’t care to know that, and still don’t).
    Major third partie all had candidates (Libertarian Party, Green Party, Constitution Party, Justice Party, Americans Elect, etd.) …
    Anyway a total of 417 people filed a Statement of Candidacy with the Federal Election Commission to run for President in 2012.
    You could have filed if you thought your ideas about democracy would catch on. I kind of doubt that they would.

  427. asoka.. January 18, 2013 at 11:03 am #

    One more thing. Since the POTUS is also Commander in Chief of drone bombers that can bomb any country in the world, the entire world should be able to vote for POTUS.
    Obama, as Messiah in Chief, is not just president of the United States, he is president of the entire world population, and they should get to vote.

  428. anglo January 18, 2013 at 11:49 am #

    Do you EVER get tired of spouting bollocks ?

  429. Jam47 January 18, 2013 at 1:15 pm #

    I’ve seen most of the fifties and sixties Hollywood musicals and think them lame–with two striking exceptions: My Fair Lady and West Side story. I saw West Side when it first came out and again five years ago. Great dancing, great music. Has its dead spots, but is terrifically entertaining overall.
    Rita Moreno excepted, all the leading players are dead.
    And how come Richard Beymer never became a major star? Two or three years after West Side, he was the lead in another good film–Hemingway’s Adventures of a Young Man. Then he disappeared. Hollywood chews them up and spits them out, I suppose.
    There were a ton of good movies between 1960 and 1965. Old Hollywood’s last gasp.

  430. Radu Voda January 18, 2013 at 1:38 pm #

    Now you sound like me. Good for you. What would you replace it with? Leninism? Maoism? I of course, would replace it with a Constituonal Republic for America. Perhaps a Constitutional Monarchy for parts of Europe. Democracy would be a small part of either system – for the qualified. Robert Heinlein had a good idea: go into the computerized polling booth and it produces a quadratic equation to be solved. If you can’t, the curtain opens and a red light goes on: rejected!
    Now when are you going to speak out against Ozone? He believes people have the right to own guns!

  431. Radu Voda January 18, 2013 at 1:40 pm #

    Yes, Anita was hot, but Anybody’s was the most beautiful woman there.
    Are you talking about Riff? Or Tony? The Puerto Ricans were very Italian looking. Only one or two real ones.

  432. stelmosfire January 18, 2013 at 1:40 pm #

    Yo Vlad, it was a “MOTION PICTURE”. Someone’s fantasy created onto a piece of celluloid. I’ve been around the block. This shit rarely happens. My car could fall into a sinkhole but I certainly don’t worry about it. Although I have seen it happen. Chill out man. Go see your doctor and get some benzos for when you can’t calm down.