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In those months after the election, Mr. Trump was apparently dazed and confused by his unexpected victory, and completely unprepared to actually run the country. His super-sized “stable genius” brain surveyed the scene and his field-of-view saw nothing but swamp from sea to shining sea, populated by lizards, snakes, raptors, and poisonous insects, with higher-order mammalian predators in the C-suites. When he finally caught on to the game being played, Mr. Trump rounded up his own menagerie of crispy critters and sent them forth to run operations like the Department of Energy — in that case, former Texas governor Rick Perry, who knew next-to-nothing about the department’s responsibilities, and had sworn to abolish it in the primary elections (when he remembered it existed).

The politics around these deadly serious matters are interesting enough, and Michael Lewis, as always, excels at unpacking the fraught mysteries of highly complicated systems run by comically limited humans. But something else emerges from this story, perhaps unintentionally: that the complexities of government are now hopelessly unmanageable, no matter who is in charge of them, and that the actual path of this still-growing complexity leads to criticality and collapse. If Lewis catches onto this later in the book, which I doubt, if only for his cavalier references to the dodgy business of shale oil, there’s no sign of it in the early chapters.

But this is not intended to be a book review based on a so-far partial reading. It is to say that even some of the best analytical minds of our time are missing the main thread of the story: that human affairs in the 21st century have entered a hazardous period of disorderly change largely due to that age-old pitfall of making ever-increasing investments in complexity with diminishing returns. That is exactly how societies collapse and that is where things stand in the Time of Trump. One might even theorize that Mr. Trump’s simplemindedness is a kind of virtue in the face of runaway complexity. His instinct, at least, is to repel it.

But at the macro level, this system and its subsystems are out-of-control and shaking themselves loose. Government has attempted to prop them up by schemes that amount to racketeering of one kind or another — the dishonest manipulation and representation of money — and now money itself is in revolt, as can be seen in the sudden rise of interest rates, especially the ten-year US Treasury Bond above 3.2 percent just before today’s market open

The US government can’t handle interest rates at this level, after decades of debt accumulation. Other nations can’t pay back their dollar-denominated loans either, and that has produced havoc at the so-called margins of the global economy — as currencies crash, and companies go under, and sovereign debt instruments melt down. You can be sure that this disorder will eventually spread from the margins to the center, which is the USA. It’s already up-and-running in our politics, which might be considered the early warning system of the larger picture. In my long life of three-score and ten, I’ve never seen a political fiasco as demented as the Kavanaugh confirmation process, with its harking back to Medieval social hysterias and stunning exercises in bad faith.

This riveting horror show has also distracted the nation — and a media fully invested in compounding the psychodrama — from the momentous tectonic movements in the world’s money system, now shaking apart. Among other things, it will blow up the fantasy that Mr. Trump has magically orchestrated a new miracle economy. But it will also bring to an abrupt close the pornographic machinations of his adversaries in Swamptown. And then we will get on in earnest with the true business of the long emergency — making new arrangements, however difficult — to escape the deadly clutter of our own constructed hyper-complex hyper-reality.

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  1. Jeremy October 5, 2018 at 10:00 am #

    Some light humour.
    Damon does Kavanaugh.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 5, 2018 at 11:53 am #

      Upvote for linking to Juan Cole.

    • Cavepainter October 5, 2018 at 12:36 pm #

      As yes, so called “entertainment”, which actually is a pacifying of America’s equivalent to China’s historic Red Guard. Nothing in the way of “light humor”, more the final note signalling decline into another version of the Dark Ages. Note particularly the racist, sexist and age biased reference to old White men.

    • Exscotticus October 5, 2018 at 12:48 pm #

      This line was funny…

      “This is my speech. There are many like it—but this one is mine!”

      The sad part is, this parody is about as close to the actual hearings as most liberals will get.

      • Majella October 7, 2018 at 6:25 pm #

        What?????? I’m a “liberal”, which I define as a person who operates under the Golden Rule – simply, ‘do unto others as you have them do unto you’, a sentiment that is long-gone from the right-wing screaming racist & sexist assholes that are now so emboldened that they’ve even colonized (or should I say ‘infected’) this once-worthy blog.

        I watched all the testimony, and then Kavanaugh a second time, because I couldn’t BELIEVE how he behaved.

        • Exscotticus October 7, 2018 at 7:05 pm #

          >>> I’m a “liberal”, which I define as a person who operates under the Golden Rule – simply, ‘do unto others as you have them do unto you’,

          Well then you’ll soon be a huge fan of Kavanaugh. Because he’s gonna do unto liberals exactly what they did unto him.

  2. Georges1202 October 5, 2018 at 10:04 am #


    Just started the book myself. Putting a complete moron like Rick Perry in charge of the nuclear stockpiles is an impeachable offense – among many others.

    However, the US reaps what it sows.

  3. shotho October 5, 2018 at 10:08 am #

    I think what Mr. K is saying is that it really doesn’t matter who is elected nowadays to whatever office, the task is beyond him/her – way beyond. You can denounce Mr. Trump, as you please, but he seems to know now what he’s up against. The downside is that he, nor anyone else, can do much about it at this late date. The systems continue to complicate and run themselves down. But, this is a good thing in the long run – maybe.

  4. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 10:11 am #

    All that talk about hyper-complexity of US Federal bureaucratic apparatus comes from a simple fact that over 90% of federal bureaucracy are busy running the American Empire – Pax Americana – and have nothing to do with running the affairs of the United States of America.

    With Trump taken course on splitting US from Pax Americana, American monetary system from being the World Financial system, and American Military from playing the World Policeman, all that 90% of Federal bureaucracy is simply NOT NEEDED and is bound to lose their lucrative jobs.

    Could that explain the fierce Resistance?

    • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 10:21 am #

      United States has turned into a planet Trantor in Isaac Asimov’s Foundation Series, over-complex society with internal intrigues ruining the quality of governance.

      • outOfTheMoney October 5, 2018 at 10:43 am #

        A good analogy – except that “a circle has no end” doesn’t apply here, as there’s no Second Foundation waiting in the wings to take over from the First. It hardly matters whether Hari Seldon was a prophet or mere statistician; entropy itself was the true “winner”, as JHK continually reminds us.

        That, and AI/robots – if you consider the full sweep of what Asimov did with that universe in his later sequels and tie-ins.

        • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 12:22 pm #

          there’s no Second Foundation

          There is ALWAYS a Second Foundation, it’s just not manifested itself publicly.

    • JohnAZ October 5, 2018 at 10:44 am #

      You better believe it. The Blue state of D.C.-Northern Virginia is scared to death of Trump and his promise to drain the Swamp. Jobs!

    • shotho October 5, 2018 at 12:04 pm #


    • Eoin October 5, 2018 at 12:39 pm #

      “all that 90% of Federal bureaucracy is simply NOT NEEDED and is bound to lose their lucrative jobs.”

      Quite so.

      Perhaps the real motivation is the retention of Rehoboth beach homes. In 2008 & 2009, after the “Big Short”, The only real traffic on the Eastern Seaboard was centered around the D.C. Metroplex.
      Weekends saw a traffic jam from D.C., all across Delaware to Rehoboth Beach.
      Swampsters were the ONLY “working” people with money to sustain that kind of lifestyle. During that period, often at night, I recall driving a couple of hundred miles, including New Jersey, and only seeing a few cars; until arriving in Delaware.

      Life, Liberty, and “just-us”.

    • aibohphobia October 5, 2018 at 3:12 pm #

      Maybe we should change it from ‘Pax Americana’ to ‘Tax Americana’…

    • Majella October 7, 2018 at 6:43 pm #

      I think you’ll sorely regret if he succeeds in “…splitting…American monetary system from being the World Financial system…” If US currency is no longer the world Reserve Currency, then the US economy will be truly and terminally fucked.

  5. dplainview October 5, 2018 at 10:34 am #

    Transitions can be very difficult to deal with.
    “Trump” is a transitional force.

  6. Walter B October 5, 2018 at 10:37 am #

    The onslaught of increasing debt and the increasing debt payments that come along with it is being exacerbated by the raise in interest rates that simply HAS TO BE done, at least for now. As they say in our financial circles, the millennia’s (and pretty much everybody else) does not really care as long as they can make the monthly payments. Well that will become increasingly difficult as rates continue to rise and the hope is that as soon as it becomes a problem, the Fed will go back to money printing to “solve” it.

    Two years ago I put together a payoff plan and ramrodded it up the bunghole of my Township Committee to eliminate our interest bearing debt in nine years time. I was told by our auditor that we were one of only two municipalities in our state that was doing this, but by the time the die was cast, the other Township, Chatham, bailed out and we were left as the only one doing pay downs. Within the next few weeks I found my LinkedIn page being checked out by a lot of people I did not know including the Director of Finance and Insurance of the state. I quickly closed this account (they announced that there were going to start tracking where I went online and I would not stand for that) but two years later, I am still getting emails from LinkedIn that people are searching for me there. It could all be innocent enough, but I seriously question whether taking steps like paying off debt at the municipal level is screwing up the control mechanisms that they have in place. I am sure that they do not want this practice to become fashionable lest they lose the control that the chains of debt provide them. The debt bomb is what we need to be concerned about as a society IMHO first and foremost, both as individuals and as groups. THIS is what will finish us off, wait and see.

    • elysianfield October 5, 2018 at 12:41 pm #

      Jim Rickard in one of his earlier written books (The Death of Money) provided for five potential triggers to the collapse of the US ecoomy…one of them was the 10 Year Note exceeding 3%.

      Another was allowing non-citizens a vote.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 1:35 pm #

      Perhaps. But perhaps you underestimate their creativity. Maybe we’ll wake some morning with a new money system called the Amero. Or more likely, called the same thing but just buying far less – the debt having been monetized under the Darkness of a Single Night of Power.

      • Walter B October 5, 2018 at 1:53 pm #

        I think that the power to undo the dollar lies in the hands of foreign countries now and the only reason that they have not pulled the trigger yet is because they are backing out slowly so as to minimize their losses since they all hold so many USD’s. Once they are de-dollarized what tricks will we have left besides none?

        • draupnir October 5, 2018 at 2:15 pm #

          War, and plenty of it.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 3:32 pm #

          Maybe. But remember, the Western Elite are Trans-humanists and Trans-Nationalists. And they are allied with Chinese Elite. Together, they could certainly bring us down. Or even singularly….but I doubt they would act without the other. The Saudis are on board too of course. The nascent New World Order.

          The Jews seem to be divided. The Neo-Cons want a special status for Israel and the Jewish people. The UN faction is bigger and doesn’t seem to want that. No doubt many are trying to mediate between these two factions to avoid open conflict.

      • RocketDoc October 5, 2018 at 5:59 pm #

        This is a very prescient comment. Most people are extremely foolish about money. A new monetary system based on SDRs or a”bancor” would be a really interesting development and not a good thing for America as all the dollars come flooding back home….

    • RocketDoc October 5, 2018 at 5:55 pm #

      Debt may not be as bad as we think. I am taking on debt for things I don’t have to have but would be nice to have. My home is paid for but the house in the country is mortgaged at 30 yr. 3.2%. If Inflation takes off….win. If things crash I have to hope I didn’t pay too much. I bought a new Acura with 1.9% financing. My 10 year old car is paid for so if inflation returns to 1980s levels–cars will be more expensive but progressively easier to repay. I am self employed so won’t be losing my job but just might not be making any money if conditions hit the skids… Debt may be the new investment.

    • BornToKillPeace October 5, 2018 at 6:09 pm #

      sorry to read about your LinkIn tale. I really, really hate that site.

      We will be crunched from two sides.
      1. Social tyranny via the identity left
      2. Corporate owned Gov slamming our monetary power from the right.

      What a squeeze we are all in.

  7. Brabantian October 5, 2018 at 10:42 am #

    Our host speaks above about the nuclear weapons worry … but it is worth considering that for some quite serious people (in European governments, amongst others), there is significant evidence that not only were Hiroshima & Nagasaki mis-represented – they appear to have been chemical firebombing horrors just like Tokyo – the so-called ‘nuclear weapons’ have never existed, as fake as the ‘moon landings’ out of ‘9 trips to the moon’ of 1968-72, also something privately laughed at by European government officials. The original ‘techno-narcissism’ as JHK phrases it.

    Regarding the ‘trips to the moon’ whose 50th annivesary we start celebrating this December, apparently director Stanley Kubric, a few days before he died in March 1999, confessed to his fellow film-maker T Patrick Murray, that he had faked the films of the USA claimed 6 ‘moon landings’ of 1969-1972, an era when the CIA had its own film studios at Laurel Canyon, California.

    Swedish nuclear engineer Anders Björkman, now retired living near Monaco, has long been telling EU governments that he proved long ago that nuclear ‘weapons’ (vs nuclear power) are impossible, and lots of evidence lines up. In fact there was a firebombing-size fleet of planes witnessed bombing Hiroshima, and US military logs a fleet that same day going to bomb ‘Imabari Japan’ … which no longer existed. Mushroom clouds are made by chemicals, as we have seen when Chinese factories explode.

    The goal apparently was to terrorise Stalin, but then the US military complex brought the Russians in on the deal in1949, to become ‘The Best Enemy Money Can Buy’ as Antony Sutton put it, US military complex made trillions, and Russia’s elite got all the washing machines, Hollywood movies etc as a bribe to play along. Later other nations were allowed to play along too, starting with broke-on-its-butt Britain (1952), France (1960), China (1964), Israel (1966), India (1974), South Africa (1979) – who then ‘disassembled all nuclear bombs so Mandela couldn’t have them’, Pakistan (1998) and finally North Korea (2006).

    In the 1950-60s the USA claimed to make thousands of ‘mini-nukes’, you can see videos of, e.g., Robert Kennedy sitting in a chair ‘watching a nuclear explosion’ a couple of kilometres away, ha!

    The ‘nuclear weapons’ story made trillions of profits, and it is said in Europe that the success of selling the ‘nuclear weapons’ hoax around the world, is what made the USA bold enough to sell the ‘moon landings’ – of which NASA has ‘lost’ all the original videotapes, plus ‘lost’ the tech files as to how Neil Armstrong & friends got there. The ‘Onion Moon Landing’ on YouTube has the moon landing tape with audio full of four-letter words, ‘We are on the f-cking moon, can you believe it?’, quite hilarious.

    • JohnAZ October 5, 2018 at 10:50 am #

      There was a book published in the 60’s called Hiroshima. It’s theory was that critical mass cannot be achieved when the bomb is in motion. It spent most of the book explaining how the gubment pulled off Hiroshima. Interesting read. How authentic????

      • Eoin October 5, 2018 at 12:45 pm #

        Are you referring to “Hiroshima”, by John Hersey?
        If so, it was written in 1946 and , as I recall, described the post-attack lives of six survivors.
        Thanks for jarring my memory, I think that is worth a re-read.

        • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter October 5, 2018 at 3:19 pm #

          No. It was The Jesus Factor. I had to look u p the author, who I thought was Irving Wallace. But it was some guy named Edwin Corey. My dad had the book.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

    • BackRowHeckler October 5, 2018 at 10:51 am #

      Branbatian, if the moon landings were faked, why didn’t our adversary, the Soviet Union, expose it as a hoax? They had plenty of moles inside our govt at the time, and it certainly would have been a coup for the Soviet regime.


      • thwack October 5, 2018 at 11:09 am #

        Because they weren’t really are adversary.

        The so called “cold war” was as fake as pro wrestling, and designed to keep both parties in power; each using the other as an excuse for its own existence.

        In addition revealing the fake moon landing would probably require exposing the major technical limitations of manned space flight which would result in the loss of most public support for both parties space programs.

        Think about it?

        Where would all this foolish manned mission to Mars talk be today if it was clear we couldn’t even get to the moon?

        • Exscotticus October 5, 2018 at 11:30 am #

          OK I buy it. But when will the truth about our flat earth be revealed?

        • JohnAZ October 5, 2018 at 12:44 pm #

          If the moon landings were faked, how come the lunar orbiters can take pictures of the landing sites and see all the remaining equipment from the missions? Photos exist.

    • beantownbill. October 5, 2018 at 11:22 am #

      Nothing personal, but these conspiracy theories are beyond silly. I know that nuclear weapons work because I studied atomic and nuclear physics in college and did the math and engineering that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that nuclear bombs DO work.

    • elysianfield October 5, 2018 at 12:43 pm #

      “but it is worth considering that for some quite serious people (in European governments, amongst others), there is significant evidence that not only were Hiroshima & Nagasaki mis-represented – they appear to have been chemical firebombing horrors just like Tokyo – the so-called ‘nuclear weapons’ have never existed, as fake as the ‘moon landings’…”

      Glad to have you back…

      • elysianfield October 5, 2018 at 12:44 pm #


    • RocketDoc October 5, 2018 at 6:06 pm #


      As a rocket person I take exception to your silly denial of the moon landings. What is all that stuff doing on the moon? You can see it with a telescope. It was fun while it lasted but that was 50 years ago. Space is not hospitable. The only thing I could think of watching Matt Damon in the Martian was that the average temperature on Mars is -55 degrees Fahrenheit. Let’s colonize Antartica in winter first…

  8. K-Dog October 5, 2018 at 10:43 am #

    I’ve never seen a political fiasco as demented as the Kavanaugh confirmation.

    Really, we may be fishtailing now but 27 years ago we heard about Clarence Thomas and his obsession with Long Dong Silver. Clarence wanted to put his lawed dong in Anita Hill. We spun a circle on black ice that time around. All this fish-tale wiggle is doing is pissing people off and making them more frustrated than they already are. People bitch and dogs bark but it is all much ado about nothing. Kavanaugh gets confirmed like it or not. There have been too many right-wing successes since America’s brain got Trumped for the madness to stop now.

    America is not going to hell. We’ve already arrived. Ford destroyed America and I’m talking Henry, not Blasey.

    • Eoin October 5, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

      Barkin’ up the wrong tree, as usual.
      Have you forgotten about Gerald , and Bet-ay ?

  9. volodya October 5, 2018 at 10:43 am #

    I said this a while back but seeing as it ties into what our esteemed host is writing about complexity I’ll repeat it.

    If you want to know what’s coming in this particular dishevelment, it might help to look at what happened in past circumstances when civilization unraveled. The one that took place around 3,200 years ago in the eastern Mediterranean might be instructive.

    JHK mentions unmanageable complexity in our system and its subsystems and an inevitable shaking loose. One of the subsystems that’s become incomprehensible and unworkable and inordinately expensive is the justice system. This is one that’s overdue for a radical simplification just because of the resources that it consumes with its legion of lawyers and judges and cops and prisons and guards and probation and parole officers.

    No doubt, as JHK sez, the process of simplification could be disorderly but the question is what replaces it. I’m not a legal scholar nor a historian but what sticks out like a sore thumb from that collapse of 3,200 years ago are the Ten Commandments.

    If you read the biblical narrative, the Commandments had their origins with people on the run out of Egypt, refugees IOW, who no doubt had no time nor resources for the administration of a complex set of laws. So, ten simple two or three word rules that any illiterate shepherd could put to memory would have to do ie one god, no idols, no cursing, a holy day, honor parents, no murder, no adultery, no theft, no perjury, no coveting.

    That’s it. That would have to do for a society in the midst of a region wide collapse, one where people were on the move, where cities were being abandoned and new defensible hill-towns were being built and where ethnic groups – in this case Jews – were taking shape.

    I’m not saying that we’ll cobble together our own set of commandments out of the rubble of our own civilization. But history gives us one apparent solution to the problem of complexity and what can be done in a dire situation.

    What replaces the penal system is the other question. I doubt there will be much in the way of years long or decades long confinements. Probably more along the lines of steal once and get flogged, steal twice and get hanged, steal a horse and get drawn and quartered. Or, as the Muslims do, steal and forfeit a hand. You get my drift.

    • K-Dog October 5, 2018 at 10:46 am #

      So if everybody takes a walk in the woods it’s all good?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 1:39 pm #

      Yes, rape and you lose your Johnson. Lie about being raped, and you lose your tongue. Justice requires being just ice. Or as the Ancients said, Blind.

    • Tate October 5, 2018 at 3:43 pm #

      Take your pick, you can have any two out of three:

      1. Multi-culturalism/Diversity
      2. Popular Democracy
      3. A government that works

      You can have multiculturalism/diversity & popular democracy. But the functions of government will eventually seize up as we are seeing now in the western democracies.

      You can have multiculturalism/diversity & a government that works. But that government will be a far cry from popular democracy.

      You can have popular democracy & a government that is responsive to the needs of its citizens & works, but it will have to be within the context of a homogenous society without ethnic, racial or religious differences.

      • malthuss October 6, 2018 at 2:06 am #

        I choose ‘Whit People’ for $100.

        • Tate October 7, 2018 at 2:55 pm #

          White people. We give a whit.

  10. BackRowHeckler October 5, 2018 at 10:47 am #

    Jim, the price of crude is moving up to $80 per barrel. I’ve heard a few commentators blame it on President Trump’s trade policies, but the fact of the matter is that worldwide demand is outstripping worldwide supply. Despite incessant propaganda, and govt subsidy of green energy, electric cars and public transportation, we are just as dependent on gasoline powered cars as we ever were. Even in dying, dystopic little cities like Hartford and New Haven 10 lane highways are packed day and nite, a slow moving auto slum. (God help us when oil no longer exists to run these things, flaming wrecks and rusted out hulks piled up on the side of roads by the tens of millions, coast to coast.)

    Trump was indeed unprepared to assume the presidency, and the deep state took full advantage of that to discredit him. Lincoln in 1861, and Andrew Jackson in 1828 were unprepared as well, but unlike Trump, an immense, amoral, subversive bureaucracy didn’t exist then to undermine everything they did.


    • K-Dog October 5, 2018 at 11:04 am #

      Despite incessant propaganda, and govt subsidy of green energy, electric cars and public transportation.

      What planet are you on? Cus it ain’t Earth!

      • BackRowHeckler October 5, 2018 at 11:06 am #

        Have you ever watched PBS?

        • K-Dog October 5, 2018 at 11:33 am #

          I made a conscious decision not to when they became the propaganda arm of our government and the decision was made that emotion was more important than reason. Once I was a fan but like many I had to move on from the:

          Petroleum Broadcasting System

          When they dummied down.

          • cbeard October 5, 2018 at 12:43 pm #

            Yeah, me too. At one time, a listener even during the fund raisers. NPR is so rabidly left wing today that it makes me sick. I still listen on the weekends for some music programming. Jazz, blues, bluegrass, American roots, etc. NPR gets turned off whenever they start on politics as does network news when they lead off with a hit piece on Trump and the right.

        • Exscotticus October 5, 2018 at 11:46 am #

          I watched NewsHour for a bit. Judy Woodruff was having difficulty promoting the liberal narrative that the latest Kav FBI investigation was inadequate, and that Kav’s conspiracy charges make him unfit. She made the mistake of having a guest from the opposition—Senator Mike Rounds—who replied that Ford’s Feinstein-recommended lawyers withheld options to Ford…

          And then on top of it, when it was leaked, and she wasn’t given the information by our own attorneys, apparently, that the committee would offer her a private discussion in California, and she says she didn’t know anything about it, that really started — honestly, it made a lot of us think that this — that there was some intent there that wasn’t appropriate.

          Break! Off message! Cut to commercial!

          • BackRowHeckler October 5, 2018 at 11:50 am #

            Except PBS doesn’t have any commercials.

            They’re on the government teat, a propaganda arm of the progressive wing of the Democratic party.


  11. malthuss October 5, 2018 at 10:48 am #

    The USA is broke [minus 200? Trillion] but we finance Israel.
    Land of 1000 whore houses.

    “Police bust nationwide brothel network, accuse suspects of trafficking”
    It had it’s “partners”inside Europe and Russia, too.

    “Police announced Tuesday they had broken up a suspected human trafficking ring that was allegedly bringing women to Israel from Eastern Europe to work as prostitutes in eight brothels around the country.

    The investigation, which began in June, led to the arrest of 12 people, including a woman, referred to as a “Madame,” who is suspected of running the brothel network in Jerusalem, Haifa, and Ashkelon, and bringing women to Israel.

    The suspects are accused of bringing women from Ukraine and Georgia by posting on local job-seekers websites. Women who left their details and were deemed suitable were offered work in Israel.”

    I have read that Turkey also is a land of ‘sex slave horrors.’

    • BackRowHeckler October 5, 2018 at 10:56 am #

      Malth, Israel get only about $3 billion from us every year, and it comes with many strings attached. Mostly it is used to buy hardware, weapons systems and gear from American defense contractors, so it is a kind of domestic jobs program as well.

      Besides, what’s wrong with assisting an ally surrounded by enemies bent on its destruction?


      • beantownbill. October 5, 2018 at 11:15 am #

        Tech-minded people tend to complain that NASA’s annual budget is too small for the agency to be effective. Yet our annual aid to Israel is 3 or 4 times as small as NASA’s.

        • malthuss October 5, 2018 at 3:52 pm #

          Why pay any money to any nation as aid?

          • beantownbill. October 5, 2018 at 5:28 pm #

            True, but then let’s cut all foreign aid and dump the UN.

      • elysianfield October 5, 2018 at 1:14 pm #


        “Besides, what’s wrong with assisting an ally surrounded by enemies bent on its destruction?”

        With the lessening of our dependence upon Mid-East Oil, our former and current proxy is not only beginning to outlive its usefulness, but also demands the US be painted with the same brush in regards to the serial outrages it commits against it’s Middle Eastern brothers. The cost/benefit ratio is skewed.


        • malthuss October 5, 2018 at 3:53 pm #

          “Besides, what’s wrong with assisting an ally surrounded by enemies bent on its destruction?”

          BRH thinks Israel is an ally..bwaaaaa….

          what’s wrong with assisting –plenty.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 1:46 pm #

        Ally? What do they do for us besides try and get us into their Wars via false flags. Setting a Nation there was very foolish in any case, as Nixon and others have said. They were offered Madagascar, an island that far larger and could have held all your people with much room to spare.

        Remember the Liberty.

        • malthuss October 5, 2018 at 3:53 pm #

          Nixon also warned of immigration.

        • RocketDoc October 5, 2018 at 6:22 pm #

          I once figured that at $5,000 acre you could buy 8,000 square miles of southern Alabama and Mississippi (plenty of water–not a Negev desert) for $25 Billion. Chump change for Saudi Arabia and Iran (something they could agree on).

          My only concern was that in 25 years the New Israel would have bought the rest of Alabama and Mississippi.

      • malthuss October 5, 2018 at 3:51 pm #

        Why pay any money to any nation as aid?

        • Walter B October 5, 2018 at 8:18 pm #

          Because the US gets a lot of it back from who they give it to. I recall Ronald Regan sending $12 million to Ferdinand Marcos for his re-election campaign only to have Marcos send Regan back $6 million for the save purpose a year later.

          If you want to get really ill over money laundering, check out this story:

          Excerpt From European Lawsuit Against RJR Nabisco

          If you like spy novels, you will find that the European Union’s presentation of fact to be far more fascinating than fiction. One of the complaints filed in the case describes a rich RJR history of business with Latin American drug cartels, Italian and Russian mafia, and Saddam Hussein’s family to name a few. The Introduction reads as follows:

          1. For more than a decade, the DEFENDANTS (hereinafter also referred to as the “RJR DEFENDANTS” or “RJR”) have directed, managed, and controlled money-laundering operations that extended within and/or directly damaged the Plaintiffs. The RJR DEFENDANTS have engaged in and facilitated organized crime by laundering the proceeds of narcotics trafficking and other crimes. As financial institutions worldwide have largely shunned the banking business of organized crime, narcotics traffickers and others, eager to conceal their crimes and use the fruits of their crimes, have turned away from traditional banks and relied upon companies, in particular the DEFENDANTS herein, to launder the proceeds of unlawful activity.”

          From the article:

          And the tale is confirmed by:

    • K-Dog October 5, 2018 at 10:59 am #

      You should see an optometrist. You seem to be far-sighted.

      I’ll guess that if Trump were to put a tariff on the Chinese pussy import you’d be opposed.

    • JohnAZ October 5, 2018 at 12:50 pm #

      Human trafficking is a world-wide problem, including here. The Deep State elite have become wealthy with trafficking and drugs and definitely do not want the Wall built.

      Build the wall.

      • malthuss October 6, 2018 at 2:07 am #

        Youtube–George Webb.

        • Majella October 7, 2018 at 8:07 pm #

          Unadulterated blithering nonsense…unless it’s all TRUE! I find it distracting the way these Conspiro websites tell their story like you’re already in on it.

  12. beantownbill. October 5, 2018 at 11:01 am #

    Shades of Joseph Tainter. JHK has gotten down to the nub of things -complexity. Change is occurring more rapidly than the human mentality can handle.

    I remember when we got our first tv in 1951. We could get only two channels, yet everyone in our area was fascinated with the new picture box, and channel 7 and channel 4 were enough to satisfy most anyone. Flash forward to the present with literally hundreds of networks from which to choose. Anyone can see how television is impacting our lives more and more.

    I’m not picking on tv, it’s just an obvious example of increasing complexity.

    Complexity, for the masses, is not an obvious phenomenon. To most people it’s just the way things are, and it’s not worth thinking about. For those analytical, thinking persons, it is a clear warning signal that things are getting out of hand.

    • K-Dog October 5, 2018 at 11:17 am #

      impacting our lives more and more.

      Seems to me that everybody is making human sacrifices to the screen now the same way they were a year ago and the year before that. About thirty hours a week per person give or take. If as much time were spent on Jesus this place would be heaven.

      What would America do if we all turned-off the tube. What would you do with all that time. Make the world a better place? Help out your fellow man? Become the person you always wanted to be?

      Thought so, probably better it stay on then. If some Americans get off the couch things could get dangerous. Better they stay meaningless, stupid, ineffectual, and out of the way. Anything else is too complicated.

    • malthuss October 5, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

      I remember when we got our first tv in 1951. –The good ole days…were they so good? Or does the complex mind
      recast memories?

      • beantownbill. October 5, 2018 at 5:31 pm #

        I didn’t say the ‘50’s were happy – just more simple.

        • malthuss October 6, 2018 at 2:09 am #

          I hope that you were happy.

    • malthuss October 6, 2018 at 2:08 am #

      True, but then let’s cut all foreign aid and dump the UN.

      yes…US $ for US citizens.

  13. Exscotticus October 5, 2018 at 11:04 am #

    If we are indeed on the cusp of JHK’s long emergency, better to have a president who understands his responsibility is to America—not the world. For far too long, we’ve had leaders who couldn’t even get that priority straight.

    Governance is not difficult if one sticks to the fundamentals. It becomes impossible when priorities are backward, and includes visions of rainbows, unicorns and universal one-world kumbaya.

    • K-Dog October 5, 2018 at 11:28 am #

      You are asking the impossible. You are thinking everyone thinks as deeply as yourself. They do not, and further many people do not share your ideal of ‘responsibility’. Expecting everyone to get responsible is as wishful as wishing for unicorns.

      I like your statement. “Governance is not difficult if one sticks to the fundamentals.” I agree. To bad nobody ever seems to be able to do it.

  14. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 11:05 am #

    Splashes of white paint on a picture as black as night or a bucket of black paint spilled on it

    This whole Russian campaign with the refusal of the dollar in combination with rumors about the forced conversion of dollar deposits acts on my consciousness and switches it to Russian reality, not entirely, but in chunks, or rather, impulses.

    And as a result of this kind of switchover, I received a signal from Selivanov’s sly face on TV that the so-called refusal of the dollar so far stimulates three processes – the withdrawal of legal dollars from large dollar accounts and transfer them outside of Russia, the transfer of small deposits into cash and the third process the conversion of cash rubles into cash dollars.

    That is, the appreciation of the dollar, which, without this struggle against the dollarization of the whole country, began to decline dangerously and returned to the level that was before the introduction of sanctions, undermining people’s faith in the sanctions power of the hegemon of the world politics.

    Naturally in this situation it is impossible to ignore such a thing as FOREX and the fact that the main beneficiaries of de-dollarisation so far are those who bought USDRUB three days ago.

    A FOREX is such a thing, where confidence in the inevitability of certain events turns into big money, and 99% confidence in raising the dollar to 72 is much more than 90% confidence in raising the dollar to 100 rubles per dollar.

    But abroad, such transactions are very well monitored and are the reason not only for a couple of hundred years behind bars, but also to the complete confiscation of everything movable and immovable, and they can be carried out in Russia only by those who want to cut the dough at last, which only in the event that someone very, very powerful, guaranteed security for you and your money in the West.

    Trump cannot give such guarantees because he
    a) Under the Mueller’s hood
    b) It goes against the transformations he is trying to make in the world and in the USA

    It remains Hillary, and the fact that the Russian bureaucracy believed in her guarantees, suggests that they agree with my assessment of the current situation, although what Trudeau signed with Trump NAFTA-2.0 says that he does not agree with me.

    And I think that Trudeau is better informed than me and even better than Russian officials and businessmen who owe Hillary everything, as they received their first money and positions from representatives of the all-powerful First Lady of the USA who sat in all the ministries and departments of the largest and most dangerous fragment of the USSR.

    By the way, George Bush Sr. told about this almost openly, speaking about how he bought using his own money and sent chicken legs to Russia while Hillary was ruining his NAFTA-1.0 and the results of his victory in the Cold War.

    But it’s much harder to figure out the Trudeau games, I’m not even talking about the president of Mexico, through which three-quarters of all drugs get to the USA and the wall that Trump builds will reduce that number in half.

    Therefore, I cannot yet confirm NAFTA-2.0 as a fat white blot on a picture as black as night, but the FBI report, according to which the charges against Judge Kavanaugh did not find a single confirmation of absolutely this kind of blot.

    And if today a white paint bucket is poured into the picture, and I hope that the nightmare of the last few days, from the heirs of Dr. Josef Mengele in Georgia to threats of a preemptive strike on Russia, sounded open from the highest rostrum of NATO, will be remembered as a hint at the objective reality given to us in the extremely unpleasant sensations that would have been waiting for us if in the Oval Office of the White House Hillary Clinton had been in the presidential chair.

    Today at 9:28 Moscow time, President Trump will send an emergency message to the Americans using a special warning system of the American Emergencies Ministry – the notorious FEMA, which on September 18 was supposed to take control of the United States after the devastating hurricane and dismissal of the president who showed complete incompetence in handling Florence.

    It can be anything: from “I’m tired, I’m leaving”, to a call for an armed uprising against Hillary Clinton, who illegally seized power in the United States. But judging by the pomp that surrounds this appeal, and the energy with which the Republicans, who betrayed Brett Kavanaugh a week ago, push through his candidacy of Justice of US Supreme Court today, this will be the usual appeal about the next Atlantic hurricane, ready to fall on the USA.

    But the more usual it will be, the more impressive it will be to those who understand that it means a tremendous event in American History – FEMA is no longer subject to Bastinda and her flying monkeys!

    • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 11:27 am #

      The situation around the American bio-weapon laboratory in Georgia

      The Russian Ministry of Defense presented an analysis of documents published by the former Minister of State Security of Georgia, Igor Giorgadze, about American developments in the field of biological weapons that are conducted in the center of Lugar in Georgia, on the border with Russia.

    • K-Dog October 5, 2018 at 11:40 am #

      I listened to a podcast this week which said that speakers of the Russian language have a different outlook on the world because their words for colors are different. For instance they have more nuance in describing blue and have a word for a light shade of it we do not have in English at all. This allows Russians to apprehend things Americans can’t see.

      Perhaps you can expound on this Finca?

    • Farmer McGregor October 5, 2018 at 11:43 am #

      Finc buddy, I must be really stupid.

      I can’t make a lick o’ sense outa that long screed of yers.
      Was it the product of one of those random word generating bots?

      Am I the only one left confused by it?

      • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 11:50 am #

        You are in the middle of another coup d’etat by Hillary Clinton, and I am trying to assess the prospects based on a very incomplete and contradictory data,

        Don’t stress out, it is difficult to understand without proper training.

      • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 12:41 pm #

        Something very strange is happening and I still can not understand what.

        • elysianfield October 5, 2018 at 7:34 pm #

          Komraden Finc!

          Which is more dangerous…overthinking a situation or under-thinking the same situation, taking what you see mostly at face value?

          Most people would say the danger lives in under thinking…however overthinking will destroy your peace of mind…it will make you as crazy as a shit house rat.

  15. volodya October 5, 2018 at 11:06 am #

    The Bork and the Merrick Garland proceedings were hideous.

    • Georges1202 October 5, 2018 at 11:30 am #

      Garland never even got a hearing – that piece of shit McConnell saw to that. Now that fucking hypocrite is lambasting everyone about fairness, etc.

      • volodya October 5, 2018 at 11:58 am #

        Garland never even got a hearing – G

        Exactly the point.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 1:51 pm #

          You can have Victory or you can play by the rules. The Democrats are “playing” for keeps. In other words, they’re not playing. Finally our side is getting it and is beginning to use trickery. As Sun Tzu said, War is deception.

          They started it. They, the secret Communist but secret no longer, destroyed civil discourse in America. We need feel no guilt but rather terrible resolve to do what must needs be done.

      • BackRowHeckler October 5, 2018 at 12:09 pm #

        Not hearing the Scoyus appointee before a national election was a precedent laid down by Senator Joe Biden in 1992.

        What goes around comes around, my friend.

        How do you like it now, Gentlemen?


    • K-Dog October 5, 2018 at 12:07 pm #

      Bork, he made everybody pop a cork. That memory is so unpleasant it got crumpled up and thrown in the trash.

      • Georges1202 October 5, 2018 at 12:08 pm #

        He became a meme – to be Borked.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 1:52 pm #

        A very strong racially aware Civic Nationalist: he would have been a superb Justice of the Court.

  16. NRWer October 5, 2018 at 11:10 am #

    The system is coming apart at the seams by design. Globalism and associated financial/political elite have slowly torn it apart. That is really all there is to it at this point. Trump knows this and is attempting to correct issues that have been created over decades in the course of 4 to 8 years.

    Surprising to see Kunstler promoting a gossip book, btw.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 1:54 pm #

      Agree about your first point, but complexity is a very real issue as well.

  17. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 11:18 am #

    Branbatian, if the moon landings were faked, why didn’t our adversary, the Soviet Union, expose it as a hoax? == brh

    For the same reason USSR elites supported the US dollar with various contracts in 1970s when US dollar was at its weakest and could’ve easily be replaced by the Russian international ruble fully backed by gold.

    They wanted the safe place for their loot of the Soviet public property.

  18. George October 5, 2018 at 11:21 am #

    “But it will also bring to an abrupt close the pornographic machinations of his adversaries in Swamptown.”

    The Austrian School’s View: When Tricky Dick took us off the Gold Standard, the tenuis link that existed between the US Dollar (and therefore all other currencies) and gold since Breton-Woods was severed. Since then, freed from the restraints of the Gold Standard, the Fed (& Treasury) have lent Trillions into existence to pay for all manner of dubious adventures for which there are no ends. The Neoliberal chaos that this has spawned is leading up to a catastrophic end. I suspect attempts to circumvent this end by the BRICS and others will only serve to add more chaos to the mix.

    Meanwhile, in the background (for now) environmental degradation continues unabated at an ever increasing pace, coaxed along by the same Neoliberal policies that Tricky Dick’s action unleased.

    • malthuss October 5, 2018 at 7:30 pm #

      when n how will it end, for USA?

      • elysianfield October 5, 2018 at 7:38 pm #

        “when n how will it end, for USA?”

        Social unrest.


        • malthuss October 6, 2018 at 2:01 am #

          Riots, food riots?

          • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 11:31 am #

            “Riots, food riots?”

            In part. Riots for every reason, real and imagined.

  19. Paulo October 5, 2018 at 11:31 am #

    This is a tremendous and insightful essay. I believe there is also a twist and different point of view to the narrative of wobbling complex states.

    I live in a parliamentary democracy, Canada. In our Province (BC) we have on occasion wild swings between left and right, and every time the the Change befalls the World is going to end. But in our case we have the bureaucracy slowing down the wobbles, and although the on-top minions change, the Professionals steer the ship in such a way that course changes are more gentle and measured. The professionals on top are management and can be dismissed, but not without cause and they also have recourse. The deckhands, if you will, are Unionized with a firm set of rules and a contract to follow, thus adding to the stable course of our ship. There is no Deep State, only folks who belong to organizations trying to do a job in spite of the Pols running around and pointing fingers. They just want to go home and maybe watch a little hockey with their kids.

    Your Republic is much different. With its internal structure/organization of checks and balances it invites mutiny at every turn. With the US ideological war on unions, the helmsmen might not only lose their jobs, they might be investigated and charged with no formal protections. This makes every facet even more political and subject to ‘wobble’. There is no common race, creed, or ideal anymore beyond getting ahead and getting rich, as individuals, for everything else is ‘free market’ wonderful and “We don’t need no stinkin socialism”, anymore brown people, or libtards, KKKers, or California wine sipping celebraties, Pinkos the lot. It reminds me of a system set up to be a right wing/left wing Mao Cultural Revolution. Not only is no one steering the ship, I picture the remaining sailers fighting over the opportunity to do so like a Stevan Seagal movie remake of Under Seige 3.

    Trump is a 6’4″ Pol Pot. Instead of forcing the inteligentsia into the countryside and onto collectives for eventual starvation, he derides baits, and mocks until people are beaten down and give up. Meanwhile, his cronies are looting everything under the cover he bombasticaly provides.

    The wobble is easily seen as a high-tech complex fly-by-wire jumbo jet full of fat type2 diabetics and bad cholesteral heading for an all-inclusive where brown people are meant to just cut the lawns and fill the buffet. Like all grotesque vacations, most and regular folks not invited. And in this case the jet has been overtaken by Trump, Perry, Mnuchin, Nielson et al, and they’ve all got friggin box cutters in their hands and they’re shouting things the other pax don’t understand or care about. Iran Bad…China bad…NK good…I love Kim….Putin good….Allies bad….Nato bad…. It’s going down all right, and for the sake of the rest of the World, the sooner the better.

    Like Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism. Righhhht. If people believe that they’ll believe anything. So, which countries helped over throw Iran in ’53? hmmmm.

    Trump and Kim, sittin in a tree, K I S S I N G.
    First come love, then comes marriage,
    then comes Pence pushing a baby carriage.

    You guys are insane. MAGA

    • BackRowHeckler October 5, 2018 at 11:47 am #

      Thanks for the vote of confidence, Paulo.

      I always knew you Canadians loved us, but I never knew how much.


      • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 12:16 pm #

        After they’re drunk enough on American milk, things will get better, bitchez.

        • Eoin October 5, 2018 at 1:00 pm #

          Yeah, end doze bitchez keep der cowz locked-up all da time too!
          Inhumane treatment of Dairy animals have always made me want to make farmers live like that for a few weeks, tied-up so that they couldn’t even turn around.
          The cows only leave their stalls to “freshen”, or give birth. After that, its right back to the tie-stall for another year.
          Bitchez, indeed.

    • Billy Hill October 7, 2018 at 8:40 pm #

      I don’t typically write reviews, but there’s always a first time.

      Paulo — this is drivel. Keep it up and you’ll be like those one routinely skips over. There — even ended with a preposition this was so forgettable. Grow into being your own editor. Get over the fear of deleting yourself.

  20. Opie October 5, 2018 at 11:41 am #

    “One might even theorize that Mr. Trump’s simple mindedness is a kind of virtue in the face of runaway complexity. His instinct, at least, is to repel it”.
    That is the best summation of Trump I’ve read yet, in two sentences no less.Well done!

    • JohnAZ October 5, 2018 at 1:02 pm #

      The bureaucracy makes the President ineffective by inundating him or her in trivial BS. Simple clear thinking is needed.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 1:58 pm #

      The rise of the Terrible Simplifiers was long predicted. Men must act and if ordinary intelligent men refuse to buck the System that envelops them, less qualified but Stronger Men will come to do it for them – with mixed results. But again, it HAD to happen. We were dying in an alien system built to suck us dry via usury and replace us with cheap colored labor.

  21. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 11:43 am #

    so-called ‘nuclear weapons’ have never existed == Brabantian

    These absurd theories are designed by Clintonoids to lower the guard of American people against devastating consequences of any nuclear conflict with Russia, to make it easier to lead them to slaughter.

  22. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 11:55 am #

    Or the racist cartoons of Thomas Nast showing Irish people as vulgar, dirty and uncivilized savages…?
    On some of the racist blogs Ive heard Irish people referred to as “potato niggers.”
    == thwack

    Western Black Project cannot forgive the Irish people their active participation in promoting the early Orthodox Christianity of St. Patrick in Western Europe.

    It was the Irish who, after receiving baptism from the hands of St. Patrick, became the main adepts of Christianisation of Western Europe.

    Irish Christian communities sent missionaries to the most remote parts of Europe, founded monasteries and just Christian communities, created Orthodox schools that became the basis of European universities, collected libraries, taking Europe out of barbarism into which it plunged after the fall of the Western Roman Empire and baptized, baptized, baptized…

    • Eoin October 5, 2018 at 1:24 pm #

      If you’re Irish, racism, and sedition, is a part of your Culture.

      Christianity, for the Irish, is a slave religion, kinda like A.M.E. for Irish people. The root of the argument lies beyond the reach of modern history, and takes one to the late stone-age. I have been able to trace my Family name to the 6th Century, to a place that still exists, whose name is based on an ancestor who lived their when St. Patrick came to build churches. Since then, I have taken a strange comfort in knowing that my “Christian name” is actually pre-Christian.

      Thwack is not far from the truth, and the appellation rings true today for many Irish who are far removed from their history; beaten down by their Masters, the English.
      Cromwell, the Protestant, made it illegal to speak Irish, and be Catholic. Many Families, my own included, had to “Anglicize” their names to simply survive; that did not stop them from being dispossessed and becoming landless slaves in their own nation.

      Erin go Bragh !

      • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 2:03 pm #

        A.M.E? Otherwise, good post. The Irish were inwardly destroyed after centuries of ruthless persecution. They gained an outer freedom, but only wanted to be like the English at that point. Even some of the IRA fighters thought it was all for naught in the end. I mean one assumes reform was coming that would have given Catholics equality and pretty much the same things they have now. The Irish have opened their borders to the 3rd World – no pride or memory at all, just like the rest of Western Europe.

        • malthuss October 5, 2018 at 7:31 pm #

          Last I read, the border was controlled by a jew. He ran
          their immigration system.

        • Eoin October 6, 2018 at 1:48 pm #

          A.M.E. = African Methodist Episcopalian (church).
          Apologies for the lack of substantiation.

  23. BackRowHeckler October 5, 2018 at 12:04 pm #

    “I know nuclear weapons work … ” Bill from Boston

    You got that right, Bill.

    In fact since July 1945 the world has seen 2056 nuclear bombs detonated. The Soviet Union set one off in 1951 in Kazakhstan that was so powerful it was feared the earth itself would crack open. The US exploded a few in the South Pacific almost as powerful.

    I have this theory, maybe half assed I don’t know, that those several thousands of atomic and hydrogen bombs combined with the Soviet Union dumping hundreds of thousands of tons of Nuclear waste in the sea in the 60s and 70s (Simon Winchester ‘The Pacific’) has irreversibly contaminated human DNA and has led to the explosion of cases of autism we see in out young people nowadays.


    • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 12:12 pm #

      The first rational thought I see from you in a long time, brh.

      Of course you can’t resist promoting another Russophobic author regarding “Soviet Union dumping hundreds of thousands of tons of Nuclear waste in the sea in the 60s and 70s “.

      It takes time, I guess.

      • BackRowHeckler October 5, 2018 at 12:18 pm #

        Ok, I’ve read only 2 books by Winchester ‘The Pacific’ and ‘The Atlantic’, and I didn’t realize he was considered anti Russian.

        Also to be fair it is hinted that the US Navy was in the practice of dumping nuclear waste off the coast of Florida in the 1970s. I should have mentioned that.


      • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 2:10 pm #

        You say his statement is rational than undermine the premises it’s based on. You are irrational.

    • Opie October 5, 2018 at 12:33 pm #

      You got that right. Way back when the tobacco companies were fighting tooth and nail over whether their product causes cancer, they had their own witnesses. Everybody I knew thought “greedy corporate bastards” and promptly ignored them. However,I was curious as to what excuse they could come up with.It turns out that basically they said yes, there is a higher rate of cancers in smokers,but, tobacco does not cause it.They went on to site the number of above ground nukes that were detonated. Not all that waste blown up came back down, some of it circles yet to this day, and everyday some minute particles drift down.People breath it in,usually it is expelled right back out with little apparent harm. However, a smoker with lungs full of tar, have a higher likelihood that a piece will stick to it and just sit there radiating a lung to full blown cancers. I got to thinking on that and thought it’s been 40 years or more that I read about that, I should Google that and see what I come up with. Holymollie, there are now many sites that attribute a lot more than just lung cancers to this.I fer one believe they might just be on ta sumptin .

    • elysianfield October 5, 2018 at 1:31 pm #

      I would attribute the increase in “Autism”, being more a product of the monetizing of the definition, rather than the increase in the “affliction”….

      • thwack October 5, 2018 at 8:39 pm #


        why did they make up a special name and condition for “slow” white people?

        Why can’t they just be stupid, like the black people who are slow?

        • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 11:35 am #


          The white diagnosis has been monetized…

          The black diagnosis weaponized.

          Just ruminatin’

    • Tude October 5, 2018 at 1:38 pm #

      Russia, Russia, Russia. Maybe you want to read some US history too. Estimated 47,000 barrels right off the coast of California.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 2:13 pm #

      In the Indonesian earthquake, the Earth liquefied. Low lying land with a high water table I assume? People drowned in the mud in what had been dry land a moment before.

      What a way to go. Like the guy who was sleeping in his bed when a pit opened up below. His body was never found. Even in America!

      Apparently Patton was assassinated by a Jedburgh who admitted as much on his death bed.

    • SpeedyBB October 7, 2018 at 5:59 pm #

      While censorship by ridicule goes on, disclosure is steadily approaching. One of the most curious [= sinister] aspects of UFOs is their reported curiosity / concern about the nuclear weapons stockpiles assembled in various countries. If the visitors do indeed see our blue planet as a choice destination (something else becoming more likely, according to numerous sources, particularly the late Budd Hopkins). Alamogordo opened quite a can of worms.

  24. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 12:06 pm #

    Another splash of white paint on the canvass depicting absolute darkness:

    Senate advances Kavanaugh to final vote

    • K-Dog October 5, 2018 at 12:20 pm #

      Law dong Thomas and gang bang Kavanaugh. Next we get a supreme court justice into kiddie porn.

      You Laugh? You laughed when the idea of Trump becoming president was a joke too!

      • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 12:24 pm #

        The dogs are barking, and the caravan moves on…

      • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 2:51 pm #

        What a low blow based on nothing. Blasie Ford is from a family of CIA spooks. She’s not but she’s involved with recruitment apparently. Get it? She’s Deep State all the way up the wazoo.

    • Georges1202 October 5, 2018 at 12:42 pm #

      Little Clarence the Drunk.

      Well done!

  25. capt spaulding October 5, 2018 at 12:10 pm #

    The increase in technology allows for a corresponding increase in complexity, however when things get really complicated, everything has to work perfectly. All it takes is for one part of the whole to collapse, and everything begins to tumble down. Recovery will come slowly, because most people haven’t lived a lifestyle that translates into a skill set useful for the great reckoning. It’s hard to hurt someone who lives in a mud hut, and beats his clothes on a rock in the river, however, we don’t live at that level, and have no experience in how to live in reduced circumstances. I guess it depends on how great the fall, and how far it drops. My guess is that if you don’t already live close to a simpler lifestyle, whatever that may be, the tougher it will be when the hammer comes down.

    • elysianfield October 5, 2018 at 7:42 pm #

      “My guess is that if you don’t already live close to a simpler lifestyle, whatever that may be, the tougher it will be when the hammer comes down.”

      True dat.

  26. nwcodetalker October 5, 2018 at 12:14 pm #

    Purchased and just received last night the book “The Long Emergency” (Amazon delivers at odd hours) so looking forward to learning if the book was correct and is relevant today. I hope not. Given the age of the original, an update, or better still a new work would be nice.

    • K-Dog October 5, 2018 at 12:21 pm #

      So write it.

    • JohnAZ October 5, 2018 at 3:20 pm #

      Too Much Magic is a 2011 sequel. But read The Long Emergency first. With me, it popped so many balloons that I put it down three times while I reconciled myself to its content. I read it in 2008 and whereas JHK looks to a shorter time frame most of the time, the overall trends are definitely occurring. Enjoy it, maybe.

  27. wm5135 October 5, 2018 at 12:21 pm #

    “And then we will get on in earnest with the true business of the long emergency” JHK

    Hope springs eternal.

    “I’ve never seen a political fiasco as demented ” JHK

    The non-stop barrage of deceits and disinformation since about this time of year in 1962 holds nothing comparable to this? I was eleven in 1962 and you were fourteen and this current fandango is the most egregious?

    I guess I’m just an excitable boy with an over active memory. Looks to me like we are just now getting around to reading the fine print in the “Contract //// On America”. A toast to the Keating Five! Viictory in Granada. Oliver North a hero. Ken Starr and the devil in the Blue Dress.

    Defense of a demonized political hack?

    There are those who scoff at the school boy, calling him frivolous and shallow. Yet it was the school boy who said, Faith is believing what you know ain’t so.
    -Following the Equator, Pudd’nhead Wilson’s Calendar

  28. trolleybill October 5, 2018 at 12:24 pm #

    We need to revamp the money system. When I grew up in the 1950’s cash was king and money was backed by silver and gold. Their was a thing called layaway and many purchases were done with cash. I bought all my cars from the mid sixties used with cash I saved working pumping gas and auto repair in a Gas Station. Easy credit ruined America and many a family by unrestrained retail shopping. You could easily work your way through college by working for a year living at home except during Vietnam draft era you had to get the S-1 deferment but college was cheap too. Those who did serve got free tuition. Things were also more in line like rents according to income. today a single working person would have to make $25 a hour to conform to the rules of living like 1 weeks income to rent plus utilities and the 4th weeks to bank.
    I picked up the first issues of Mother Earth News and they were 1970 and have been living a what if life since. Living with out a vehicle but a bicycle for 20 years I can attest we need more mass transit everywhere like in 1900 with the interurban light rail.

  29. BackRowHeckler October 5, 2018 at 12:33 pm #

    The money system is being revamped, TrolleyBill.

    For starters, cash is being eliminated as a medium for exchange.

    Its much easier for the govt to track you down and corporations to sell you stuff if you pay for everything with a credit card or your cell phone.

    See how its gonna work?


    • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

      The Cabal is in really dire need for cash.

      For Trump is freezing their accounts and their asses.

      And they need the money to win the demos in the midterm elections. And other activities for our destruction.

    • malthuss October 5, 2018 at 7:34 pm #

      to further enslave us.
      numbered to buy and sell.

  30. mow October 5, 2018 at 12:44 pm #

    ” Mr. President , we must not allow a fishtail gap “

  31. GhostOfHam October 5, 2018 at 1:09 pm #

    “hyper-complex hyper-reality.”


    A Simulation. A Simulacrum

    of Human beings using Human Beings as network nodes of feedback, what one might call “collapse,” and then correction.

  32. SoftStarLight October 5, 2018 at 1:39 pm #

    Happy Friday!
    Whatever may be the case, President Trump is a 21st century knight in shining armor and folk hero. I hope there are many more like him waiting in the wings and I think there are now that they are awake ;-)!

    • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 1:46 pm #

      The Christian Celtic King Arthur, the Richard the Lionheart ready to storm the Sheriff of Nottingham Castle with free archers of Robin Hood.

      • SoftStarLight October 5, 2018 at 2:30 pm #

        Yes please – millions of Robin Hoods!

    • Georges1202 October 5, 2018 at 1:56 pm #

      Just try to stuff that fat fuck into a suit of armor.

      • SoftStarLight October 5, 2018 at 2:09 pm #

        I think you’re jealous ;-)?

        • Georges1202 October 5, 2018 at 2:44 pm #

          I’m a native New Yorker – had many years of that piece of shit and his horrid family.

          Isn’t it strange that he runs off to Bumfuck, Montana for his ‘rallies’ rather than his hometown? Hmmm…

          Could it be that familiarity with this baboon breeds the worst kind of contempt?

          • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 2:57 pm #

            Jews control NY – and they are jealous of Trump. And soon they’re gonna lose control of it to the Ocasio-Cortez’s – who hate them.

            Fred Trump told the young Donald, we stay on our side of the river and they stay on theirs. Yet Donald crossed the River, another Washington, and conquered, saving the great City in process along with Rudy from ruin. Of course that embittered the people who thought so highly of themselves and so much less of others.

          • JohnAZ October 5, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

            Maybe the feelings are mutual.

          • Tate October 5, 2018 at 4:26 pm #

            I don’t see how New Yorkers stand it. No wonder they have higher mortality rates from all causes. If I’m there more than three days, I’m ready to leave. Although it is interesting to eavesdrop & listen to the scheming & stories of mercantile triumph, LOL.

  33. janet October 5, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

    If Lewis catches onto this later in the book, which I doubt, if only for his cavalier references to the dodgy business of shale oil, there’s no sign of it in the early chapters. –JHK

    “Dodgy business of shale oil”? NOT. Shale oil is profitable when oil is selling at over $70 per barrel, given shale oil costs only $50 or less to produce.

    Jerry Bailey, president of Petroteq Energy Inc., said the cost of oil production from shale is in the range of $30 to $50 a barrel for most companies. “When WTI is at $70 and assuming the sales are close to that figure, there is still a healthy profit margin.”

    Shale producers can boost production levels fairly quickly. Cinquegrana estimates that it takes about seven months to bring shale production online, while deep water Gulf of Mexico output can take seven years to ramp up.

    “Suffice to say as prices rise, onshore production can too,” he said.

    Looking ahead, it looks as though shale oil producers may have the time they need to catch up. Bailey expects the $70 level for WTI to be “sustained through the summer and perhaps see a rise of several dollars,” given turmoil in the Middle East.

    Saudi Arabia is likely to “backfill” most of any production declines stemming from Iran, he said, following Trump forcing the U.S. withdrawal from the nuclear deal with Tehran, adding that the Saudis are likely satisfied with the $70 price range so that price level is likely to be maintained in the coming months.

    • James Howard Kunstler October 5, 2018 at 2:05 pm #

      “Shale oil is profitable when oil is selling at over $70 per barrel, given shale oil costs only $50 or less to produce.” — Janet

      Janet, you truly don’t know what you’re talking about.
      Not only is it unprofitable, but when the oil price goes up to that realm, it crushes economic activity. Nice try, though… –JHK

      • Georges1202 October 5, 2018 at 3:11 pm #


        Don’t the shale-oil rackets have huge debt service?

      • JohnAZ October 5, 2018 at 3:34 pm #

        Plus the fact that due to the sweet spots being utilized first, further drilling produces less for more investment.

        JHK, our family has mineral rights in West Texas, Eagleford formation. Our first well was drilled to 5000 ft. And produced oil for about six years at a declining rate each year. Just like the model you described. Just now, a second well was drilled to 10000 ft to liquefy the oil at that depth as the first became non profitable to pump. Needless to say, much more expensive. We shall see what it produces.

        Fracking has become more effective in getting the oil out with improved surfactants, BUT the volume of the well remains fixed which makes the well produce less with time.

    • SoftStarLight October 5, 2018 at 2:09 pm #

      Lol – Busted!

  34. trypillian October 5, 2018 at 1:52 pm #

    A brilliant treatise.

  35. akmofo October 5, 2018 at 2:05 pm #

    The only people that can’t afford the higher interest rates are foreigners who can’t print US dollars at will to pay their US dollar denominated debt. It will be their economies that slow. That will indirectly effect the US economy, since 40% of the US economy is exports. Solution: reduce exposure to foreign markets, which is exactly what Trump is aiming at. There’s not only economic security in that, but also technological and military security in that:

    Chinese Spy Chips and Supermicro — Apple, Amazon, among others, are affected:

  36. SoftStarLight October 5, 2018 at 2:17 pm #

    As much as I try I just can’t get over how awesome President Trump is! And by the way, did you know that Melania is our Queen? Yes, we made her so since they got to have Michelle.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 2:59 pm #

      Baron will be crowned Emperor by 2050. All this Democracy shit will just be a horrible memory by then. The People will be glad to have a Strong Leader for Life to save them from the horror that America will soon become.

      • SoftStarLight October 5, 2018 at 4:49 pm #

        OMG! Yes indeed, and may the day be hastened!

  37. janet October 5, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

    “This riveting horror show has also distracted the nation” –JHK

    Distraction, indeed, but for the purposes of avoiding prosecution later.

    “Trump, and Trump alone, degrading American politics, and we should not get lost in side debates and sideshows. Some may be wringing their hands about the unending and presumably two-sided intolerance of red for blue and blue for red. But there is no figure in the Democratic Party who in any respect shares Trump’s rhetoric or mirrors Trump’s threats or repeats Trump’s hatreds. Such figures exist only on the fringes of the left, whereas Trumpism has now become the central and defining faith of the Republican Party.

    The issues that Kavanaugh’s past behavior raises are crucial ones, and there is time and the need for a deep dive into the persistence of sexual assault and the necessity of hearing out victims and recognizing pathological cultural patterns. But do not let the simulations and dissimulations distract you. Kavanaugh is an instrument of Trumpism, an insurance policy that the con man is writing for himself. The rest is misdirection.” –Adam Gopnik

    • Exscotticus October 5, 2018 at 3:05 pm #

      Really, janet? You still want to bring up Kavanaugh? Then tell us: if Ford’s allegations are true, explain why she won’t hand over the very materials she’s been using as bona fides for her veracity?

      Grassley demands correspondence between Ford legal team and Dem senators

      Dems used these salacious distractions to purchase a three week delay. But the cost has yet to be paid and the bill has arrived.

  38. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 2:55 pm #

    So far all I am observing is the miraculous transformation of hurricane Florence from the biggest hurricane in the history of hurricanes into the wettest.

    Stay tuned…

    • janet October 5, 2018 at 3:14 pm #

      “”This is a tough hurricane, one of the wettest we’ve ever seen, from the standpoint of water.” –President Trump (with a stable brain)

      • SpeedyBB October 7, 2018 at 6:11 pm #

        Emperor of Pleonasms. Also & what’s more, he is in addition really happy about it.

  39. Tate October 5, 2018 at 3:16 pm #

    Robin DiAngelo, who coined the term “white fragility,” appears in a video produced by NBC News that claims to “debunk the Most common myths that White people tell about Race.”


    This is not a popular video. It has about 100 likes to over 2,600 dislikes. I would guess that it’s the Boomers who don’t like what she’s saying & gave all the thumbs down. I watched the thing & found that I was agreeing with her more often than not, LOL, even if for completely different reasons.

    At the outset it must be stated that many of the downvotes on the video are probably at least in part due to the fact that Dr. DiAngelo has a very annoying look. I think her photo of herself at her webpage must be heavily airbrushed to give her a more feminine softer look. In the video, she has a kind of wrinkled prune mouth that most likely has atrophied from lack of proper male companionship, to put it delicately. She leaves unexplained how she came to resign her tenured position at Westfield State University but one may surmise that it was not done willingly.

    In the video she challenges the fragility of her “fellow white people” to change the question from “if” they are racist to “how” they are racist. Cool.

    So along those lines she discusses the false “narratives” that whites carry around in their heads such as “I don’t see color.” This is a cliche that GoodWhites, especially Boomers, like to tell themselves & their liberal friends, indoctrinated as they are in the cult of Individualism & color-blindness that up until recently pervaded America. It is a type of social grooming behavior to dispel the anxiety that comes from not admitting that color is of paramount importance in our society.

    Another cliche narrative she mentions is “I have black friends.” Mostly, this is horseshit. Why would you feel you have to say that, unless you thought of it as a feather in your cap? It’s clear if you say “I have black friends,” that you are racist. This is merely another type of moral preening among the bien pensants.

    The next narrative Whites tell themselves to thereby prove they are not racist, is “Race has nothing to do with it — it’s about class.” Ha ha. This is a classic whopper. As DiAngelo says, this is a maneuver to “get race off the table.” I would go so far as to maintain that Class is actually a social-construct which proxies for Race in instances where money is involved. Clearly, it doesn’t explain half as much as actual Race, (or Ethnicity if you will.)

    The final hobbyhorse that DiAngelo tries to explode is the narrative that “Focusing on Race is what divides us.” Here I have to part ways with her to some extent. On the one hand, she’s merely parroting a truism. Of course ACKNOWLEDGING racial differences divides us on some level, necessarily so. This is irremedial.

    But in her mind, a further focus on race will bring us together. As a Race Realist, I fail to see how that’s possible if it means what I think she intends by it. That is, in her words, to “protect the racial hierarchy with the White position within it, which is an unequal hierarchy [duh]” is a moral failure which requires a corrective. Quite evidently she advocates the groveling behavior that any self-respecting White is not going to tolerate for a moment if they have a healthy self-image. So I would have to say she jumps the shark on this last point. Otherwise, it’s a good video despite her annoying presentation.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 3:25 pm #

      Yes, again they are attempting to make the most extreme doctrines mainstream. Racism is the ultimate sin and all Whites are racist. This is going to bring the Races together? Yeah – in a Race War. Greg Hood calls such Liberalism, “The Church of the Damned” since there can be no forgiveness for the sin of Whiteness.

  40. Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

    I don’t want closure, I want cloture! Kavanaugh must become a common boy’s name in honor of the attempted crucifixion of this great Man.

    Blasey Ford want to be interviewed by the FBI. Aw, isn’t that cute? If people wanted to really hear from her, they should have asked her real questions at the Hearing instead of bowing and groveling to her as they All did more or less.

    And we’ll remember in November. The timing is perfect. The Democrats have welded us together by their insane attack on a good man and now in the last few days, slandering him for the Sin of being an Old White Man who dares to have human feelings.

    We are going to eviscerate them in the mid-terms. The Scum!

    • SoftStarLight October 5, 2018 at 9:18 pm #

      They have behaved in a despicable way so they should be called scum!

  41. amb October 5, 2018 at 3:23 pm #

    No better buzz phrase sums our circumstances up than, “Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.”

    In the big picture, and the inevitable denouement, does any of this really matter?

    The system must crash in order for…
    1) Everyone to agree it was dysfunction and doesn’t work.
    2) A unification of people to work shoulder to shoulder to build a new system (NOT pick up the pieces and put Humpty-Dumpty back together again).

  42. aibohphobia October 5, 2018 at 3:32 pm #

    Jim has given us the view from the mountaintop. At ground level where I live, I find that lots of people know what must be done, yet it is currently impossible to do it.
    For example, in the world of Pharmacy, this is what must be done:
    1) Allow individual pharmacies to compound any dosage form they want from active ingredients plus excipients. This will work just fine for the vast majority of Rx meds and will mostly eliminate the need for Big Pharma.

    2) With drastically reduced prices for most Rxs, customers will need to pay cash for their Rxs. This will eliminate the need for huge insurance conglomerates, the cost of whose existence is rolled into the price of our insurance payments and the cost of meds.

    3) Pharmacists must be trained in apprenticeships.
    This will eliminate the need for most formal pharmacist training, and help reduce the burden of at least that part of higher education.

    I know these things must be done, but it is currently illegal to do most of them.

    They are going to happen anyway in the next 50 years, but by then, Pharmacists like myself who still remember how to do all that will mostly be dead.

    This is why, I predict, our era will become known as “The Age of Stupidity.”

    • FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 4:31 pm #

      Hopefully, after the decisive win in November, President Trump will find real administrative patriotic talent to turn all that wastefulness around.

      The situation in American pharmacies is a disgrace and a highway robbery.

      Being able to compare it to other national systems I can attest to that.

      • aibohphobia October 8, 2018 at 3:41 am #

        I can attest to it too–
        I am licensed to practice Pharmacy in both the US and Canada (currently Canada), and I can tell everyone that Jim K is absolutely right about the racket-ness of Pharmacy in the US, at least on the manufacturing, wholesaling and chain-store part of it. Still somewhat a racket in Canada, but not nearly to the same extent.

        There WAS a time when, due to a loophole in the laws, pharmacies began to compound nebulizer solutions in direct competition with big Pharma. We were able to offer packs of nebulizer solutions for about $8 to $10 (vs. $25 to $40 from big Pharma).

        For some reason, on the same day all the big boys cut their prices to about $5, so we could no longer make money on them. This is why I think compounding would bring back reasonable prices again.

  43. Exscotticus October 5, 2018 at 3:37 pm #

    The top twelve It’s All Abouts (in alphabetical order):

    biological sex
    class (wealth, status, fame)
    nationality / citizenship
    political affiliation
    sexual preference

    Personally, I’m a fan of culture. Hard to define, but I know it when I see it…

    • Tate October 5, 2018 at 4:21 pm #

      What about obesity?

      • Exscotticus October 5, 2018 at 4:44 pm #

        You’re right! Let’s add “looks” and make it the top thirteen.

  44. Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 3:47 pm #

    The only real salvation is Pride in White Tradition, Culture, and Identity. You know, what every other group is allowed. The Way forward is back – you know, like what you do when you lose the trail. And once we get back on track, will we allow more aliens into our lands? Of course not. Will we begin to deport them back? Of course.

    • SoftStarLight October 5, 2018 at 4:51 pm #

      That is right! And we will have a big, beautiful wall to keep them out of our paradise!

  45. Janos Skorenzy October 5, 2018 at 3:49 pm #

    Susan Collins is being basically fair and rational. Now she’s raving about how Ford is a completely wide eyed innocent. Women must never be disparaged, but at least she accepts that they need not always be believed.

    • Georges1202 October 5, 2018 at 4:10 pm #

      The Machine will out…

      That slob will be inserted into the Court, which has become a dimestore joke anyway.

  46. janet October 5, 2018 at 4:06 pm #

    It’s not over until the ladies vote.

    • SoftStarLight October 5, 2018 at 4:55 pm #

      Hillary doesn’t agree with you Janet. She said all of the white women are a bunch of dumb airheads who have to be told who to vote for by their husbands, dads, brothers, sons and bosses. LOL that means that Trump is gonna freaking win again!

      • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 6:29 am #

        “She said all of the white women are a bunch of dumb airheads who have to be told who to vote for by their husbands, dads, brothers, sons and bosses.”

        No, that would just be the ones you described who like someone to make the big decisions for them so they don’t have to worry 🙂 .

        And the ones who have those ‘beautiful qualities and values such [as] love, devotion and obedience’ which they shouldn’t be embarrassed by. The rest can just vote the way they think best for themselves, their families, their country and the wider world.

    • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 11:43 am #

      “It’s not over until the ladies vote.”

      “Ladies” is a qualitative term…”Women” is a term more apropos to your argument.

      If “ladies” remains your definition, it would be a relatively small voting block.

  47. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 4:23 pm #

    So far all I am observing is the miraculous transformation of hurricane Florence from the biggest hurricane in the history of hurricanes into the wettest.

    Senator Collins just poured a lot of fresh cold water on the democratic hotheads.

    Presumption of Innocence, bitchez, your “political correctness” be damned.

  48. 100th Avatar October 5, 2018 at 5:12 pm #

    “The US government can’t handle interest rates at this level, after decades of debt accumulation. Other nations can’t pay back their dollar-denominated loans either, and that has produced havoc at the so-called margins of the global economy — as currencies crash, and companies go under, and sovereign debt instruments melt down. You can be sure that this disorder will eventually spread from the margins to the center, which is the USA”

    Just in time for 2020. What a coincidence. And all the simpletons, AKA voters, will be rushing to pull the lever for Gropin’ Joe, Pocahontas, or Commiela Harris. Hoodwinked again.

  49. FincaInTheMountains October 5, 2018 at 5:18 pm #

    Something big has happened and I still trying to figure out what…

  50. janet October 5, 2018 at 5:36 pm #


    Six days ago Trump tweeted a demand to know where the money is for a border wall in what he called this “ridiculous” spending bill. “REPUBLICANS MUST FINALLY GET TOUGH!”

    Today at noon, quietly and meekly, with his tail between his legs, Trump signed the government funding bill, even though it has NO MONEY FOR HIS WALL. The bill DOES include the Labor, Health and Human Services and Education funding bills.

    Thank you, Mr. Trump! You are all bark and no bite. Keep talking like a Republican and keep acting like a Democrat. Actions speak louder than words.

    • Exscotticus October 5, 2018 at 5:49 pm #

      >>> Actions speak louder than words.

      And so does his 51% approval rating.

      We’ll get our wall, but first thing’s first: control of SCOTUS.

      • janet October 5, 2018 at 6:00 pm #

        Exscotticus, it is pathetic to see you grasping at straws, but kind of fun and inspiring!

        PRESIDENTIAL APPROVAL RATING = 43.5% (national average)

        51% … Rasmussen Reports

        43% … Emerson

        44% … Economist/YouGov

        43% … NPR/PBS/Marist

        40% … IBD/TIPP

        43% … Reuters/Ipsos

        41% … Quinnipiac

        45% … Harvard-Harris

        42% … Gallup

        40% … Pew Research

        46% … FOX News

        44% … NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl

  51. tucsonspur October 5, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

    I heard it first in a bar on Second Avenue in NYC decades ago. Well into a discussion about the world’s cities, a woman summed it up succinctly, albeit rather crudely, by declaring that the Big Apple was “the balls of the Universe”.

    Is there anything else like it out there in Andromeda, the Sombrero, or even in the Virgo or Fornax clusters? Probably not.

    All other metros are at best mimicry. We almost lost it to diversity, as the hordes tried to devour the Apple grown by whites.

    Museums. Wall Street. Theatre. Broadway. Opera. Architecture. Times Square. Greenwich Village. Up the Hudson is West Point, and across the East is the Brooklyn Bridge. The Cloisters. Central Park. I’ll take Manhattan, you take Milwaukee.

    Yes, most of the old haunts are gone. Joints where you could talk about the “troubles” to an old, gnarled Irishman drinking boilermakers in a room that looked like a fog had just rolled in off the Irish Sea. Or about old Germany to a German up in Yorkville. Or about the daily plight of Poles or Italians or Greeks etc., working their way in this City of Superlatives, city of my birth. (Ha, Ha).

    City of Trump. The Grand Gladiator of Gotham. Balls of the Universe. MAGA not MAKA.

  52. janet October 5, 2018 at 6:03 pm #

    These are more interesting numbers for me:

    United States Senate

    GOP … 48

    Dem … 44

    Toss Ups … 8

    Could be both the House and the Senate go Blue. Mr. Trump’s nightmare is just beginning.

  53. janet October 5, 2018 at 6:15 pm #

    Numbers going into the midterms do not favor Trump, but he owns the disapproval.

    Trump Favorability Ratings

    41.5 … Favorable

    54.5 … Unfavorable


    Direction of Country Ratings

    39 … Right Direction

    54.5 … Wrong Track

  54. janet October 5, 2018 at 6:29 pm #

    “We almost lost it to diversity, as the hordes tried to devour the Apple grown by whites.” –tucsonspur

    Irish, Germans, Poles, Italians, Greeks, etc. make NYC diverse. We celebrate all their cultures and all their skin colors. In addition to Blacks and Asians and Hispanics, they helped build NYC. Diversity is strength. Now NYC has a biracial couple in Gracie Mansion. We almost lost NYC to whites, but minorities arrived to build and save it.

    • tucsonspur October 6, 2018 at 1:47 am #

      The story is sad but true. Blacks and Hispanics largely fouled the majestic city by making huge contributions to crime, fear and filth.

      Look at the meager architectural contributions to the city by blacks.
      Most would make Jim’s Eyesore of the Month feature:

      No, blacks and Hispanics added little, but subtracted a lot.

      • PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 3:49 am #

        Hispanics are “whites”. They are definitely Caucasian.

        I lived in an all black neighborhood for a time (in Omaha, Nebraska).

        As the only white, they thought I was a cop. The only time I thought the blacks were afraid was when I started to hear polka music. I thought, uhhh… wtf? there are no Germans or Poles here.. Then I went outside and there was a big Mexican flag flying outside across the street (this was in Omaha, Nebraska), and Mexican guys sitting on a porch drinking beer.

        The blacks in the neighborhood hated them. I just liked the polka music.

        • tucsonspur October 6, 2018 at 4:40 am #

          I read that Hispanics can be of any race. White, black or Asian.
          Here’s more:

          “The label “Hispanic” — meaning, “with origins or heritage in Spanish-speaking countries” — was intended by the census to be a category of linguistic and ethnic heritage, not an official “race” of its own.

          Yet in recent decades, Hispanics or Latinos have indeed begun to forge a cross-cutting identity that can feel like a racial category (shorthanded as “brown”) and is sometimes set beside the other major blocs of America’s racial color grid. So Hispanics can be at once a race and not a race. It’s no wonder that media coverage of Hispanics can be muddled.

          The second point of confusion is that the new research did not in fact find a Hispanic flight to whiteness.
          What it found was that growing numbers of Hispanics, when told by government forms that they were not a race unto themselves and that they had to choose a race, chose the category called “white.” As the study authors noted, this reflected the convolutions and limits of the census forms (which are to change in 2020) at least as much any underlying yearning among Hispanics to be white.

          But this brings us to the third point of confusion, which is that to the extent that some Hispanics did in fact want to be seen as white rather than Hispanic, they were using the clumsy language of color to express the subtle reality of class.”

          News to me, Mexico and the Polka:

          • PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 4:08 pm #

            yeah I think the Mexicans got introduced to polka from when the Hapsburgs ruled Mexico (or something like that)

            musta been what.. 100 plus years ago??

            Janos would know

            lol 🙂

        • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 11:47 am #

          ” I just liked the polka music”

          Sort of like Slim Whitman singing “Indian Love Call”?

          • PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 4:09 pm #


            haven’t heard that song in a long time, bud.

            ha ha

  55. malthuss October 5, 2018 at 7:42 pm #

    Behold the proposal for Boston University’s new Data Sciences Center (corporate naming rights TBD).
    Seventeen stories of stacked boxes — meant to signify a pile of books,

    Any grade schooler knows books are on the way out.
    Why isnt it to look like an ebook?

  56. JohnAZ October 5, 2018 at 8:08 pm #

    Hey, Janet. I’ll bet you were celebrating the sure Hillary victory until 2am in 2016. All the same polls said Hill was a shoo-in. Ha. I watched the returns that night, depressed because I believed all the Liberal MSM trash. I loved it watching all those liberals crying as the final States came in.

    And by the way, Trump’s 51% can be compared to Obama’s 48% at the same time. You may not like it but the Base and enough independents are seeing enough progress.

    The House will stay GOP and they will gain in the Senate. Be prepared to cry again as Trump continues to drain your Swamp.

  57. Tate October 5, 2018 at 8:40 pm #

    Vox Day says “You can’t say I didn’t warn you.”

    Jordan B Peterson:
    “If confirmed Kavanaugh should step down.”

    And Eric Weinstein on Peterson’s statement:
    “This position is held in varying forms by nearly everyone thoughtful with whom I’m speaking. What divides these folks is which way to break the symmetry. But honest people see deep reasons that both outcomes are not healthy or workable. We need a genius healer we just don’t have.”

    Vox Day again: “Jordan Peterson is not useless, he’s actually worse than useless.”

    I agree. JP is straight out of cuck central casting.

  58. Tate October 5, 2018 at 8:46 pm #

    More from Vox Day:

    Kevin McCullough of KMCRadio says the Kavanaugh hearings are going to result in at least three criminal investigations:

    1. FBI – felony lying to Congress by accusers making false claims.

    2. Congress – Sen Feinstein’s handling of Ford letter.

    3. DC Bar – into Ford’s attorneys’ malpractice.

    The first two are fairly obvious, but the third one is interesting.

    Ford’s legal team is facing an investigation by the Washington D.C. bar association. More than one person has noted Dr. Ford’s apparent shock while testifying upon learning that Senator Grassley had offered to send his staff to California to privately depose her. What was equally shocking was Ford’s lawyers literally jumping in front of the microphone to block her.

    Senator Hatch expressed his concern in a letter to FBI Director Wray about her lawyers’ behavior. And now Senator Tom Cotton has confirmed that the D.C. bar is going to be looking into why Ford’s lawyers did not convey that to her.

    What’s particularly intriguing about the third investigation is what it has the potential to uncover in the process, which is Ford’s decades-long Deep State background and the fact that the entire charade was concocted by the anti-Trump clowns [within the Deep State].

    • SoftStarLight October 5, 2018 at 9:15 pm #

      They always try to sink him and his agenda, and it never works. However, it seems like they have gotten themselves into big trouble trying to do so.

  59. pequiste October 5, 2018 at 8:50 pm #

    And not just yer average Ford F-150 hauling a trailer filled with lawn equipment, fishtailing after a gentle rain brings the road oils to the surface for that slicker-than-snail-snot lubrication and driving nightmare. Nope.

    This shan’t be some silly old generic hydroplaning event cause the dumbass forgot to get some new tires with some tread that bites for God’s sake.

    No sirree ( or no ma’ammaree? Memsahib? (A suggestion from the CFN would be appreciated here) nothing but a full-out black-ice l\covered, 75 mph speed limit interstate (that means 85 MPH out here), at dusk with a Kenworth semi tractor-trailer hauling a triple trailer loaded to the gills with some Hazmat cargoes convoy going down the Raton Pass in January. Wheeeeeee!

    That’s some fishtailing to marvel at (unless one is right behind it). Yet that is precisely where we, the U.S.S.A. is unfortunately and riding in some ancient battle wagon, a 1980’s, Ronald Reagan, Morning-in-America era Oldsmobile ’98 for example, without anti-lock brakes (which don’t matter one iota on black ice) , no studded tires (sexist!) or even tire chains (too old school).

    Yeah, buddy; when this shit-fire-storm breaks loose it will be epic, monumental, and earthshattering to say the least. Still awaiting solid intel on the best guess trigger event although those Russian surface-to-air missiles recently installed in Bashar al-Assad’s little patch of The Levant could be just the perfect flashpoint as all the players are already in place.

    • tucsonspur October 6, 2018 at 1:12 am #

      Don’t let it flip your lid when the big skid blows the grid.

      • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 11:50 am #

        “Don’t let it flip your lid when the big skid blows the grid, Kid….”

  60. amb October 5, 2018 at 9:13 pm #

    This smelled of a CIA/Deep State tactic. Ha! They failed again.
    Kav is in.
    Blue Wave hits a Red Wall this November.
    Repubs wind up with majority in House and Senate.
    Dem Party is spiraling into its inevitable demise (going the way of the Whigs).
    Trump will continue his agenda of nationalism.
    Socialism is dying. The fight to remain in power will cause a bloody civil war and much disruption in this country.
    This is the price of Freedom & Liberty.
    The Liberals are despicable, corrupt and oppressive.
    Conservatives, our Constitution and our Bill of Rights will continue victorious.

  61. amb October 5, 2018 at 9:15 pm #

    Note: This is the micro-picture. Enjoy the wins. Because, as I earlier wrote above, we are re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Yet, we can still enjoy these wins as we continue to sail into the future.

  62. thwack October 5, 2018 at 9:19 pm #

    Just learned a new pejorative for the Irish:

    “Bog Trotter”


    BTW, Kavanaugh is in good shape for his 50s; I bet he can still throw down if he has to?

    get a few brewskis in him, somebody makes a foul comment bout his wife…

    Its on!

    To all you Dems out there,

    I think you’re gonna hafta find another Great White Defendant?

  63. janet October 5, 2018 at 10:27 pm #


    Jerry Nadler, who would become committee chairman if Democrats win back the House, made it clear he would like to do a thorough investigation into both the sexual assault and misconduct allegations brought by Christine Blasey Ford and other women, as well as claims that Kavanaugh perjured himself in sworn testimony in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    • Exscotticus October 5, 2018 at 11:57 pm #

      LOL even with a blue wave (which is now looking more like a tinkle than a wave—like something that runs down the leg of a toddler in need of toilet training), there won’t be a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate for impeachment. And no Republican is going to switch sides over such a blatantly political move—particularly since they voted for Kav.

      But you are correct that investigations are coming—only they won’t be directed at Kavanaugh. Feinstein leaked the allegation, Ford perjured herself, and her lawyers are in trouble as well. They still haven’t handed over Ford’s therapy notes and polygraph materials that they claimed as bona fides for her credibility. That means they’re hiding something. Who knows what else those therapy notes say. What psycho issues she has. What medications she’s on. The truth will come out.

    • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 6:40 am #

      Bring it on. It will not happen. The last thing the Dems need now is an investigation into the lying women allegations. Incriminating info is already accumulating against Ford, and the other two have been dismissed by the FBI. The people who need to watch out are Avenatti and the Ford lawyers. Push the envelope and the axe will fall. This whole thing will blow over in a week and the Dems will shove Ford into a box.

    • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 11:54 am #

      Janet, Janet, Janet….

      Kavanaugh is to be Justice Kavanaugh in a few hours. What do they say in the Marine Corps?

      “Embrace the ….”

      Fill in the blank, Ex Marine.

    • JustSaying October 6, 2018 at 12:46 pm #

      It takes 67 Senate votes to impeach a Justice, just like the President. It will never happen.

  64. KesaAnna October 5, 2018 at 11:38 pm #

    ” It is to say that even some of the best analytical minds of our time are missing the main thread of the story: that human affairs in the 21st century have entered a hazardous period of disorderly change largely due to that age-old pitfall of making ever-increasing investments in complexity with diminishing returns. ”


    — now here is the main thread of the story that you are missing , in the specifically American context ;

    A single unitary culture and regime , from the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico , from the Atlantic to the Pacific , from New Hampshire to Louisiana , from Oregon to South Carolina ,

    with a population of Germans , and Irish , and Poles , Persians and Kurds , Nigerians and Somalis , Vietnamese and Filipinos ,

    with Jews , Moslems , Catholics , Orthodox , and the ten thousand flavors of paganism and Protestantism ,

    implies a degree of coercion , and implies a degree of dogmatic cosmology , in comparison to which taboos like racism or rape , for example , seem trivial and quaint.

    True enough , there was a brief an ephemeral time when the U.S. Empire was a good deal for the average Joe.

    A brief and ephemeral time like the age of happy motoring , cars you could fix yourself , 50 cent gasoline , and a single drunk driving charge was no big deal .

    There was a brief and ephemeral time when the Roman Empire was a good deal for the average Roman.

    But already by the time of Nero , a bare 100 years into ” Roman ” hegemony , it is not unusual to read Romans bitterly complaining that even in the city of Rome itself it is hard to find a Roman who has any real say in things. ( And it is Patricians and Equestrians , not Plebs , doing the writing ! )

    You kinda HAVE TO brag about SPQR , since the reality is that homosexual Isis – worshipping Germans and Jews are ordering you about .

    Long term , this big union only makes sense if you do think that Russia and China are nice neighborhoods for little people.

    If not , it is a kookier ( non ) religion than Wicca .

    • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 12:27 am #

      Are you preparing to extricate yourself from the Novus Ordo I hope?…

      See the picture. I’m reminded of Lovecraft’s story, “The Shadow Over Innsmouth” where the Cult of Dagon had appropriated all the formerly Christian Churches in town, but of course, kept their old denominational names.

      • KesaAnna October 6, 2018 at 1:23 am #

        Once upon a time Kings had to go look for a Bishop to crown them , because the secular power was considered inferior to the religious power.

        ” Once upon a time ” was not eons ago , but only a generation ago.

        Only a generation ago Church attendance was 70 %.

        I’m supposed to be impressed because for a moment Austrian corporals with a nice Tenor are crowning themselves ?

        Because for the moment Jesuits , who always were assholes , are trotting out this , ” render unto Caesar ” crap ?

        ( by the way , if you want to talk about pagan symbolism , please do a little study of the theological symbolic meanings of the imagery of 1st century Roman coins. )

        • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 2:01 am #

          Having an actual Satanist in the Papacy is not business as usual. He’s not even hiding it or keeping it a personal thing, but rather transforming the Church into its antithesis.

          • KesaAnna October 6, 2018 at 3:06 am #

            Thomas Jefferson isn’t ancient history , he is a Johnny -come -lately.

            And Austrian corporals crowning themselves isn’t business as usual.

            And there is nothing conservative or traditional about national socialism except the fucking costumes .

            I strongly suspect that the Austrian corporals own father , who spent his whole life serving an Austrian Catholic Hapsburg regime , would have been appalled .

      • malthuss October 6, 2018 at 1:59 am #

        AB mocks those who see Chemtrails.

        What do you make of,…

        • KesaAnna October 6, 2018 at 3:43 am #

          I think it is funny.

          Generally , religious architecture of the early 1970’s , whether Catholic , Protestant , Islamic , or pagan , sucked snails balls.

          Generally , its best features were ……….electricity and air conditioning.

          That this building looks like a snakes head constitutes a 50 -fold improvement on what is typical of early 1970’s architecture.

          And that isn’t new or novel.

          500 years ago the Satanic Catholic church was turning out some pretty decent nudes while , generally , the other guys were turning out some really ugly shit.

          Same story , different day.

          Now of course nobody will say that early 1970’s architecture sucks. No , that would make you look like some sort of hayseed rustic peasant.

          ( In this egalitarian world the worst possible thing you can look like is a simple peasant. )

          But I think it is not merely coincidence that , for example , the Cathedral of the Diocese of Knoxville , finished just this year , is patterned not on any recent design , but on the 500 year old Cathedral of Florence.

          But , eh , I suppose those Florentines were really secretly working for the Martians.

          You have to admire their fidelity to the conspiracy ; trudging around in clanking armor and hefting broadswords , when they could have been using stuff light-years better than assault rifles and Velcro .

          • GreenAlba October 6, 2018 at 8:39 am #

            “Now of course nobody will say that early 1970’s architecture sucks. No , that would make you look like some sort of hayseed rustic peasant.”

            Over here most people accept that 60s and 70s architecture was the pits. A lot of housing built then has already been demolished.

            Admittedly there were slums that needed to be demolished after the war – and there was a realisation, eventually, that the best Victorian tenements were worth the effort of saving and upgrading – but the real sin in many British towns was the razing of many old town centres (those the Luftwaffe hadn’t already razed) and replacing them with the direst of dire town centres containing the direst of dire chains of shops that were identical in every other town.

            Not everywhere, thankfully.

          • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 11:59 am #


        • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 1:07 pm #

          Utterly demonic indeed. Alas poor Kesa. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

    • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 6:57 am #

      We are still awaiting the answer to the question, is the Great American Experiment going to work?

      The GAE being that you can bring many different ethnic, racial and religious groups together and drop due process on them through the Constitution we will defeat the forces of ethnocentrism, the second great sin, and have a kumbaya moment in history.

      We do not even seem capable of deciding on a common culture to run on, other than going to war every 20 years or so to rally the troops.

      The failure of the GAE will result in multiple schisms of the country along the lines of The Long Emergency’s predictions, aggravated by resource issues. It is already starting, California. The Latins will congregate in California and run their cartels from there. Maybe they will rejoin Mexico.

      It’s okay though, with the assistance of the drug cartels, no one will notice or care about the dissolving of the USA.

      • Tate October 6, 2018 at 10:42 am #

        Bringing many different ethnic, racial & religious groups together wasn’t the original GAE. But you’d never know that if all your knowledge originated in the public school system (which for 95% of the population, it does, ha-ha.)

  65. KesaAnna October 6, 2018 at 12:18 am #

    ” Yes, again they are attempting to make the most extreme doctrines mainstream. Racism is the ultimate sin and all Whites are racist. This is going to bring the Races together? ”

    And here you trot out , yourself , a picture of why the favorite contemporary narrative of the American Civil War isn’t just bogus , it is sickly evil.

    Why Abraham Lincoln was really a total fucking scumbag.

    Killing 400,000 of your neighbors , and torching their neighborhoods , is going to induce them to respect , or even love ( ! ) blacks ?

    This is FOR THE BENEFIT of blacks ??

    This is a narrative that should offend any black person to the very core.

    somehow , though , i doubt you will actually like my pointing that out.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 12:29 am #

      No, he didn’t like Blacks. He thought they were inferior. As a young man, he and his friend were attacked by Black River Pirates and almost killed. So why? He did it to keep the Union together. But yes, still a ridiculous thing to do.

      • malthuss October 6, 2018 at 12:55 pm #

        Slaves were kept in such a ..well… abject state, who could like them? uneducated, poor, slaves.

    • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 12:01 pm #

      Ok, you’re back….

  66. KesaAnna October 6, 2018 at 12:31 am #

    ” As much as I try I just can’t get over how awesome President Trump is! And by the way, did you know that Melania is our Queen? Yes, we made her so since they got to have Michelle. ”

    As a reactionary Old Regime Monarchist and feudalist , what strikes me as absolutely hilarious about your United States is that you built a marble shrine to house a piece of paper that describes ” Farmer George ” ( George III ) as a tyrant.

    When your uncritical , sycophantic , boot-licking enthusiasm for personality cults embarrasses a reactionary Old Regime Monarchist and feudalist .

    • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 3:31 am #

      It’s always jam yesterday with you but never jam today. We love our Emperor! If you ever get one, you will hate him.

      • KesaAnna October 6, 2018 at 4:01 am #

        And its praising Hitler one minute with you , and praising the people who killed him the next minute.

        But I won’t say you are inconsistent , when you are not inconsistent.

        Your dogma , like Elrond’s , is power.

        And you are more honest about it than he.

        If I got an emperor I would hate him ?

        the King of Spain is no prize. He has given the Order of the Golden Fleece to Protestants and even to a Moslem !

        The Prince Of Liechtenstein ? Well, I would rather not even say.

        the House of Windsor ? Elton John gets a Knighthood ?

        But then what can you say of a family that instead of hiding the bastard child of a whore in the closet , puts her front and center ? ( Elizabeth Tudor. )

        AND I JUST SAID , ” The Jesuits always were assholes. ”

        But what else is new ?

        Just the other day you disagreed with me ………..for agreeing with you.

        And i bet that , days later , you still haven’t fucking noticed that.

        • GreenAlba October 6, 2018 at 7:57 am #

          Knighthoods having nothing real to do with the House of Windsor. The Queen gets to hand them out the way visiting dignitaries in the educational world hand out books on ‘prize days’ in posh schools. Just as the teachers choose who gets the prizes, it’s the entirely non-regal Prime Minister who draws up the New Year’s Honours list which says who gets knighted.

          Sometimes they are taken back, as from ‘Fred the Shred’ Goodwin who brought RBS – and almost the country – to its knees. The Queen has no more say in that than she has in anything else. Sometimes they are handed back in high dudgeon by the existing knighted who are incensed by the honour being bestowed on others they consider unworthy. Others again choose to turn down the honour at the start because they consider it an anachronistic nonsense that encourages toadying to an anachronistic system.

          “But then what can you say of a family that instead of hiding the bastard child of a whore in the closet , puts her front and center ( Elizabeth Tudor.)”

          And yet she is widely considered to be the best monarch the English ever had, for those who admire monarchs who would Make England Great Again. (Not being English, I couldn’t possibly say, despite her beheading her own Scottish cousin – but the Stuarts were rubbish monarchs anyway, although I’m sure you like them better for sticking with the One True Faith.)

          Which perhaps suggests that a child should never be blamed for its parents nor be in any way sullied by who they are, even if they are a ‘whore’ and a vicious, womanising psychopath. Interesting that you only chose to impugn the mother and not the father, though.

          Just as young Barron Trump (that has an aristocratic ring to it, doesn’t it, if you ignore the double ‘r’) shouldn’t be judged on the fact that he is the issue of a womanising, narcissistic, pathological liar and a gold-digger who happily skipped into his bed while he was still married to the second one who happily skipped into his bed while he was still married to the first one. The older junior Trumps can already be judged on their own ‘merits’, vacuous as they are.

          • GreenAlba October 6, 2018 at 7:57 am #

            Knighthoods *have* nothing…

          • GreenAlba October 6, 2018 at 8:02 am #

            And when I implicitly denigrate toadying to anachronistic systems, I totally take your own previously stated point that people in modern systems still toady to a different set of ‘aristos’, including the grubbiest of them.

          • SoftStarLight October 6, 2018 at 10:21 am #

            Yes he did womanise. We cannot get around that. What we have to admit is that in his case, the women allowed it. So he has not committed any crime. Why can’t we ever admit that we are naturally attracted to success and authority?

          • GreenAlba October 6, 2018 at 12:57 pm #

            “What we have to admit is that in his case, the women allowed it. So he has not committed any crime.”

            I don’t think I said it was a crime. Those on the Christian Right would call it a sin, or several. But they prefer not to, out of politeness, or something less admirable.

            ” Why can’t we ever admit that we are naturally attracted to success and authority?”

            You may admit what you wish, SSL. I’m made of sterner stuff, thankfully, so don’t go weak at the knees before money and power – or anyone who claims ‘authority’ that isn’t justified.

            In fact I instinctively distrust them. Put it down to my Christian upbringing and all those sermons about the ways of the world and what really matters 🙂 .

            “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal…”

            As for Melania…


            Shame they can’t spell ‘gilded’, though.

          • SoftStarLight October 6, 2018 at 1:53 pm #

            To say she has lived a wasted life is mean-spirited in my opinion. From Genesis chapter 2 beginning at verse 21, “and the Lord God brought a deep sleep upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof. And the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man , made he a woman, and he brought her unto the man.”

          • GreenAlba October 6, 2018 at 6:31 pm #

            I didn’t say she lived a wasted life. She made a choice, knowing what she hoped to gain by it. And she’s got what she wanted – she obviously doesn’t mind the assaults on her dignity and she’s 24 years younger than him so she’ll get the last laugh.

            If you want to think you’re metaphorically made from someone’s rib, no-one’s going to stop you. Four in ten Americans think the earth is less than 10,000 years old. As long as they don’t impose that kind of stuff on impressionable young children, who cares?

          • GreenAlba October 6, 2018 at 6:34 pm #

            The song is an old and well known one – no need to take it too literally. Melania can fly whenever she chooses.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 6, 2018 at 12:00 pm #

          KesaAnna: “Your dogma , like Elrond’s , is power.”

          This is accurate. When I express my opinions, I make a special effort to draw attention to the way power really works, not the distractions and confabulations power uses to distract attention away from itself.

          Didn’t read the rest of your comment, since I already know what I think of Janos.

          • malthuss October 6, 2018 at 12:58 pm #

            Janos likes power …

            You like power…

            Janos took the rose colored glasses off. they are dis-empowering.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 1:03 pm #

            Yes, Energy is Eternal Delight. Absolute Power is simply one of the Names of God. No Man can assume it, but he can serve It as a Regent or Caliph – God’s representative on Earth.

            As Lindsay Graham said, you people are obsessed with gaining power. Yet you are utterly undeserving since you don’t believe in principles. You are not Caliph material….

        • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 12:58 pm #

          No, I never praise those who destroyed Hitler. Never.

          And I was talking about the Pope, and you answered by talking about Jefferson and Hitler. You are more off this week than usual, more stuck insider yourself.

          Being an asshole is not the same as being a Satanist. One can attain the Beatific Vision even with a bad personality. That’s different than a conscious and willed acceptance of Evil. Amazing that a serious Catholic like yourself missed that. What else are you missing? But of course you’re just lashing out blindly because you don’t want to see how bad the Church has become I imagine.

          As for Jefferson, I think his statement is important. Christ’s “Love your neighbor as yourself” presupposes a HEALTHY love for oneself. That is no longer a given for many people in the West. With Ethnomasochism, people try to win by losing, or “save” themselves by damning their race. That’s not a healthy love. And just to be clear or for others reading this, I’m referring to Jefferson’s “Survival is the first morality.”

    • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 7:13 am #

      You are so right. The US does not have a monarchy or a noble class to identify itself with. We keep trying to find dynasties to take the place of a monarchical class. Clinton’s, Kennedys, Bushes are three examples. The US is trying to find a commonality to hold itself together. Right now, it is failing. Part of Trump’s victory was aimed at trying to find something to hold the country together. The Dems, fighting him, show their desire to split this country apart into its many divisions. For what? So the international taskmasters can come in and scoop up what is left. Last time I looked, that is treason. Yet, we are almost at the point where half the population favor a party whose platform is based on treason, i.e. Breaking up the Union.

      America First. Wave your banner and vote. The survival of the US depends on the next few elections. The Great American Experiment is in imminent danger.

      Another thought, if the schisms continue to expand, the Deep State is going to have to find an enemy to Wag the Dog with. Who is next?

    • SoftStarLight October 6, 2018 at 9:48 am #

      Why must you be embarrassed by beautiful qualities and values such love, devotion and obedience?

  67. BuckP October 6, 2018 at 1:13 am #

    ” …And then we will get on in earnest with the true business of the long emergency — making new arrangements, however difficult — to escape the deadly clutter of our own constructed hyper-complex hyper-reality.”
    Excellent post today Jim! Always telling it like it is!

    Hypereality definition: a state of being in which a person is unable to differentiate between reality and a simulation of reality.

    “America is neither dream nor reality. It is hyperreality. It is hyperreality because it is a utopia which has behaved from the very beginning as though it were already achieved…[Americans] are themselves simulation in its most developed state”?—?Jean Baudrillard, America (1986)

    “Disneyland is presented as imaginary to make us believe the rest is real…whereas all of Los Angeles and the America that surrounds it are no longer real, but belong to the order and to the order of simulation” (12)
    “Disneyland exists in order to hide that it is the ‘real’ country, all of ‘real’ America that is Disneyland” — Jean Baudrillard

    We tend to elect politicians who were either superheroes on the big screen or in the sports arena. The “Average Joe” American, us, sees Donald J. Trump be the decisive boss every Sunday night on Celebrity Apprentice a and utter “you’re fired” to conclude the weeks’ activities; therefore he obviously has what it takes to make a great Prez. Ole Ronnie killed the outlaws, Indians and Nazis in the movies; therefore, he would kick ass as Prez. Look at the celebrities voted into high public office from both parties based on nothing but celebrity:
    Al Franken
    Fred Thompson
    Jesse Ventura
    Sonny Bono
    Arnold Schwarzenegger
    Ronald Reagan
    Donald Trump
    Jack Kemp
    Bill Bradley
    Jim Bunning
    ad nauseum
    That’s simulation That’s hypereality
    Only in America from sea to shining sea!
    The party of all parties will never end because we can just keep printing dollars for eternity!
    Oops! I never saw that 100 mph freight train coming down the track!
    Geez, I want my hypereality back!

    • tucsonspur October 6, 2018 at 1:56 am #

      Is it not as you like it?

      All the world’s a stage,
      And all the men and women merely players;
      They have their exits and their entrances;
      And one man in his time plays many parts,
      His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
      Mewling and puking in the nurse’s arms;
      And then the whining school-boy, with his satchel
      And shining morning face, creeping like snail
      Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
      Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
      Made to his mistress’ eyebrow. Then a soldier,
      Full of strange oaths, and bearded like the pard,
      Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel,
      Seeking the bubble reputation
      Even in the cannon’s mouth. And then the justice,
      In fair round belly with good capon lin’d,
      With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
      Full of wise saws and modern instances;
      And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
      Into the lean and slipper’d pantaloon,
      With spectacles on nose and pouch on side;
      His youthful hose, well sav’d, a world too wide
      For his shrunk shank; and his big manly voice,
      Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
      And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
      That ends this strange eventful history,
      Is second childishness and mere oblivion;
      Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.

    • KesaAnna October 6, 2018 at 2:22 am #

      ” You can have multiculturalism/diversity & popular democracy. But the functions of government will eventually seize up as we are seeing now in the western democracies. ”

      ( But , but , we can have our cake and eat it too ! )

      ” You can have multiculturalism/diversity & a government that works. But that government will be a far cry from popular democracy. ”

      ( This describes the United States , Russia , China , and Brazil )

      You can have popular democracy & a government that is responsive to the needs of its citizens & works, but it will have to be within the context of a homogenous society without ethnic, racial or religious differences.

      ( No state has ever met this criteria on this scale for more than a few decades. Less than a single lifespan. )

      • KesaAnna October 6, 2018 at 2:24 am #

        ( No state has ever met this criteria on this scale for more than a few decades. Less than a single lifespan. Even genocides of staggering proportions failed to pull it off. )


      • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 7:24 am #

        A managerial ideal is the 9-9 manager. Plotted on a graph, 0 to 9, x and y axes, on the x is the effectiveness of the manager in satisfying the goals of his company from 0 to 9, and the y axis is their ability to satisfy the needs of the people working for them. 9-9 managers are few and far between.

        Governments are just big managements. How many 9-9 governments do we know?

  68. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2018 at 2:56 am #

    About distribution of elephants and materialization of spirits

    The fact is that modern physics has refused or is afraid to consider the device of the universe from a philosophical point of view, since any such attempt highlights precisely the philosophical inferiority of such basic concepts of quantum mechanics and the scientific method as an object of knowledge, a subject of knowledge, an observer, measurement, classical object, reduction wave packet and so on and so forth.

    It cannot even say whether you and me are a part of that Universe, the device of which we study in the framework of quantum mechanics, or it is inside us, or rather our imagination and whether we are not (all together or one by one?) the observer, for whom the Universe (along with us?) is an external object of measurement and, according to Galileo Galilei, is a torture of experiment over the nature.

    At night, either Schrödinger’s cat, or the ghost of this cat, ruthlessly tortured and killed by all these experiments, climbed into the absolute zero refrigerator, pulled out quantum mechanics along with the observer, and contentedly grumbling gobbled it up gazing at the mankind with a cunning, yellowish eyes.

    • tucsonspur October 6, 2018 at 5:12 am #

      Schrodinger’s cat appears to be immortal.

      Chicken and egg riddle does not deny one a serving of over easy or KFC. What will the black hole, galaxy riddle serve up?

      The question is this; what are the limits of our 3lb. Universe?

      • BuckP October 6, 2018 at 1:26 pm #

        “Sunoco has written in his secret journal: ‘There is no way an unassisted human brain, which is nothing more than a dog’s breakfast, three and a half pounds of blood-soaked sponge, could have written ‘Stardust,’ let alone Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony’.”
        Kurt Vonnegut,Timequake

  69. PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 3:31 am #

    So, in the last couple weeks– before the first hard frost here in the north country– I’ve been at a family property picking thousands of apples (or if it wasn’t thousands, sure seemed like it!) along with brothers, in-laws, children, everybody. The produce was immense: I also harvested cucumbers the size of large hams, radishes the size of baseballs, onions, potatoes of many sizes and varieties, broccoli, blood red tomato, rutabaga, squash, beets, zucchini, garlic, many herbs of a great variety, lettuces, cabbages.

    Out of all this we made: apple juice, apple butter, apple pies, canned apple pie, apple crisp, apple sauce. Canned Saurkraut, tomato, tomato juice, tomato sauce, tomato pastes, watermelon pickles, pickles, beets, mushrooms (somebody found edible mushrooms),

    So, it was a good year. The cows looked good in the pasture out there. There is milk and cheese.

    I’m lucky. I have resources. Very few Americans are. They think their ‘cash’ is gonna get them something. Nope. In the future, resources like arable land, cattle, and fresh water– is gonna make a community wealthy. I don’t necessarily like all my neighbors, but at least I know them. And winters here are terrible. So, we are forced to be good to each other, for survival. That actually turns out to be a strength.

    • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 7:30 am #

      Wow. Sounds nice. Hard work though. How many Millenials even have a clue what you are talking about? And they are the future?

      • PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 3:42 pm #

        yeah, I don’t know John. People need to re-order what is real in their lives. Their children and their families are real. So is food that you can grow yourself.

        People will learn. I just hope we all don’t have to go through another Civil War & collapse to understand that. Maybe we will have to, I don’t know.

    • GreenAlba October 6, 2018 at 8:26 am #


      That all sounds wonderful (and hard earned). I appreciate the fact that, in your last paragraph, you acknowledge that some people are lucky. We don’t choose the family we come from and neither did our parents. Mine were all proles – nobody owned land. And for most of us, our ‘choices’ were limited, even in better times. Even if someone from a non-farming family had taken up farming, their survival would not only have been determined by their own hard work, but also by factors over which they had no control.

      Many dairy farms in the UK run at a loss or go bankrupt. When I was young, we had the Milk Marketing Board (boo, socialism…) after the war, which ensured dairy farmers were paid a fair price for their produce.

      Now we have the supermarkets (hooray, free enterprise…) who leave them making next to nothing – or even less than nothing – on a litre of milk.

      While there are many who think ‘their ‘cash’ is gonna get them something’, there are others of us who have some cash, but too little for us to do anything much to prepare for when the SHTF, but who are perfectly conscious of our coming impotence and aware that whatever cash we might have may disappear overnight along with our puny pensions. So we hope for the best while only being able to prepare mentally for the worst, since, other than being debt free, there is nothing much else we can do.

      At least, we too know our neighbours. That may come in useful when we can’t afford a police force any more. A house stripped of its copper piping, flooded, and with its windows broken has no value whatsoever, no matter how hard you worked to pay off that mortgage.

      • Exscotticus October 6, 2018 at 1:07 pm #

        >>> When I was young, we had the Milk Marketing Board (boo, socialism…) after the war, which ensured dairy farmers were paid a fair price for their produce.

        GreenAlba, as an opponent of big-S Socialism, I readily admit not all industries respond to market competition. And in some cases, the services or commodities are simply too important to risk entirely to market forces.

        My problem with socialist market economies is when they cross the threshold from “we will add a dab of socialism to this capitalist system to keep the milk flowing” to a system where individuals no longer have a true right to free enterprise, where every industry is highly regulated and every business venture requires a license from the state, when markets themselves are regulated to the point of being fake and unresponsive to the laws of supply and demand.

        We should always be encouraging market forces. And when they appear not to work, we should ask ourselves why. What we shouldn’t do is respond to every perceived economic inequality with “There should be a law!”

        • GreenAlba October 6, 2018 at 1:19 pm #

          I’m not a socialist, Exscotticus, as I’ve said several times. And I consider people to be more important than systems, whatever the system.

          • Exscotticus October 6, 2018 at 2:04 pm #

            >>> I’m not a socialist, Exscotticus, as I’ve said several times.

            I’m not a socialist, Exscotticus, as I’ve said many times. I merely constantly advocate for socialist policy because…

            >>> I consider people to be more important than systems, whatever the system.

            Socialists say they care about people, too—as they strip away the rights of people to live a life free from government coercision and intrusion into all aspects of life.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 2:52 pm #

            Except you deny them the right to their full Humanity, which means being part of a People with a unique history, traditions, and destiny. They’re just the raw Mensch Material to be shaped into useful citizens of Ingsoc, and in the process, provide wealth and power for your Class.

          • GreenAlba October 6, 2018 at 6:15 pm #

            Well, whatever socialists say, Exscotticus, I don’t know why you’re addressing your concerns about them to me. As I’ve already explained.

            The regulations I like are the ones that keep the people from being used by the system because I prefer the system to be useful to the people. All of them, not just the ones who benefit from the lack of regulations.

            And Janos, with your broken record…


          • Exscotticus October 6, 2018 at 7:25 pm #

            >>> The regulations I like are the ones that keep the people from being used by the system because I prefer the system to be useful to the people. All of them, not just the ones who benefit from the lack of regulations.

            So regulations help everyone? Whereas lack of regulations only help some but not others? Did they teach you that at I’m-Not-A-Socialist 101?

            I think it’s more likely that regulations (or the lack thereof) produce both winners and losers. I think the regulations you like are the ones that help you and yours. I think if you could double your pension by halving all liberty, you just might go for it.

            Here ya go; coming soon to a cinema near you; another idiotic rendition of that I’m-not-a-socialist hero: Robin Hood.

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 7:18 am #

            “So regulations help everyone? “

            Did I say that?

            “I think the regulations you like are the ones that help you and yours.”

            Could you clarify? Just one or two examples of regulations you think might help me?

            I’m thinking of work safety regulations, for instance, which don’t affect me because I work at home. And housing standards, like the ones that might have prevented 72 people being burned to death in the Grenfell tower fire. Again, my flat isn’t encased in flammable cladding because it’s built with Victorian f***ing sandstone.

            “I think if you could double your pension by halving all liberty, you just might go for it.”

            That’s because you’re a presumptuous ignoramus who judges other people by your own standards.

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 7:20 am #

            The regulations I like, which keep people safe and not exploited, would cost ME money. And I’m fine with that, because I’m not you, even though I have a lot less money than you. And don’t ask me how I know that – I just do.

          • Exscotticus October 7, 2018 at 2:02 pm #

            >>> The regulations I like, which keep people safe and not exploited

            Turning people into economic slaves for others is not exploitation?

            GreenAlba, I just listened to a Democratic Senator argue that I should be an economic slave to all those who are less fortunate than me. That’s socialism in a nutshell. The individual doesn’t matter; liberty doesn’t matter; what matters is achieving equality-of-outcome for all—if necessary—by taking from those who are fortunate, and giving to those who are not. Just admit that you have no fundamental problem with this ideology. Because that’s what all your posts suggest.

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 2:30 pm #


            I don’t know what kind of regulations you’re imagining, but I don’t think they’re the same kind of regulations as the ones I’m thinking of.

            Regarding the examples I gave you already, I want people at work to be able to work safely. I want people to live in buildings that aren’t covered in materials that are going to burn the way Grenfell Tower did and engulf hundreds of people in minutes.

            What is it exactly that’s too socialist for you about that? Do you want bridges that collapse and people to burn to death in their flats? And poisoned water?

            “The individual doesn’t matter; liberty doesn’t matter; what matters is achieving equality-of-outcome for all—if necessary—by taking from those who are fortunate, and giving to those who are not. Just admit that you have no fundamental problem with this ideology.”

            I’ll admit no such thing because it’s your usual b*ll*cks. Making it illegal to use flammable cladding on apartment buildings isn’t going to end up with everyone living in a nice house like you and pissing you off.

            Because that’s what all your posts suggest.

            Your comprehension issues are not my problem. As you’ve pointed out. But I’d have been happy to pay for a bit of remedial work just the same.

          • Exscotticus October 7, 2018 at 3:11 pm #

            >>> Grenfell Tower

            Not surprised that you use welfare housing as an example (I believe your term is “social housing”). In both cases, it’s rent-subsidized rent-regulated housing for those who “qualify”. The goal is to house the poor at taxpayer expense. These include immigrants who never paid a dime in taxes and maybe never will. But it’s largely become a systemic entitlement; the tenancies are passed down from parents to childen to their children and so on. It encourages cyclical poverty.

            While partaking of the public largesse, there are absolutely no limits on these families in terms of reproduction. If they want to have ten children while sponging off taxpayers then that’s their right. Apparently, “human” rights include the right to be a non-human leech. Moreover, as families grow, they can demand even swankier digs. Each child is a money-maker and increases the dole. Far from being discouraged, large families are emphatically encouraged. As if this demographic needs any extra encouragement in this regard.

            Just a suggestion, but if you want to address London’s housing shortage, you might want to consider immigration reforms. Brexit will help with that.

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 6:12 pm #

            ” But it’s largely become a systemic entitlement; the tenancies are passed down from parents to childen to their children and so on. It encourages cyclical poverty.”

            Why do you keep showing your ignorance and bigotry, Exscotticus? Tenancies are not passed on as they were 50 years ago. Your information is out of date. And the vast majority of people in Grenfell Tower were working people. Two of them were a young couple of ltalian architects.


            And some of the flats were privately owned.

            The cladding has been taken off a students’ residence round the corner from me as a precaution – they are privately rented flats, but no-one wants to see those nice middle-class students barbecued in the middle of the night either.

            Sorry, but your outlook on life sickens me. Have a good evening – I’m not wasting any more time on you.

            And if you are so stupid you think the kind of immigrants you don’t like come from the EU there’s really no helping you.

            Brexit is going to result in more people coming from non-EU countries and fewer nice, white Christian Polish people. There’s no cure for stupid.

          • Exscotticus October 7, 2018 at 6:46 pm #

            >>> Tenancies are not passed on as they were 50 years ago.

            No idea what you’re referring to, but if adult children live with a parent in social housing, and the parent dies, then the children retain the residency. And I’m not merely referring to traditional council housing. But feel free to post links proving I’m wrong.

            >>> And if you are so stupid you think the kind of immigrants you don’t like come from the EU there’s really no helping you.

            The kind of immigrants I like are the kind that bring their own wealth and are highly skilled in highly difficult occupations. Rocket scientists, brain surgeons, and so on. Only Brexit will allow the UK to have control over its immigration policy.

            >>> Sorry, but your outlook on life sickens me.

            Don’t lecture me on empathy, welfare, or humanity. Empathy is not empathy if it’s coerced by the state; welfare is not welfare if it’s taken by force; and every tax dollar you spend on immigrants is at the expense of the hard-working middle class.

            Last I checked, the UK’s wealth is finite. If you want to spend that wealth on housing immigrants then go for it. Or maybe you want to call a moratorium on immigration and improve bridges and roads. That’s an option, too. I think the latter is a lot easier to justify, but feel free to argue the I’m-not-a-socialist position.

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 5:41 am #


            (1) I have already explained to you that I do not support unlimited immigration. The brown people you don’t like (many of them teachers, doctors and nurses) come from outside the EU. Non-EU immigration is nothing to do with the EU and never has been. What is it that you find so hard to understand about that? Seriously, please tell me. The EU has never had any say in non-EU immigration, which has been entirely governed by dictates or lack of them by the Home Office. It will be unaffected by Brexit, except in that non-EU and EU immigrants will have exactly the same rights

            (2) In most cases, council tenancies allow a single succession within a family and most adult children do not live with their parents so would not inherit the tenancy. You will no doubt have read of the ‘bedroom tax’ – an increase in rent for empty nesters who are considered to no longer need an extra bedroom, to encourage them to vacate their homes for single-bedroom ones. Unfortunately it also affects people with disabled children, who need extra space to keep wheelchairs and other equipment. And needless to say there is a shortage of one-bedroom accommodation so they can’t move anyway.


            In social housing that is not council built or managed, succession rights – if there are any – will depend on the tenancy agreement.

            (3) My daughter lives in social housing, built by a Housing Association and not by the counciI. You will be aware of Thatcher’s great sell-off of council housing which has caused a great deal of our current housing crisis. Since then councils have been severely restricted in the building of council homes. Housing associations have plugged the gap – they also sell the flats individually and use the capital to build more.

            Where my daughter lives, it is possible to buy one quarter, one half, three quarters or the whole flat. She started by buying half (she rents the other half). She had saved £24,000, entirely on her own, between the ages of 16 and 24 but earned (and still earns) way too little to buy a whole flat, which she would have to do outside the social housing sector (her partner, whom she met long after buying the flat, works part-time, like her, but he is on minimum wage so earns less). But at least now she has some equity. Are you arguing such housing should not exist?

            (4) We were discussing regulations, not immigration. You brought up immigration because you refused to answer my question about regulations. Re the point on cladding, people in private blocks of flats are being faced with the costs of replacing potentially dangerous cladding that they weren’t warned about when they bought their flat. WTF has this got to do with socialism? It’s about regulations to keep people safe. I only mentioned Grenfell because that’s where the people died – fewer brown people – great, eh?

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 8:50 am #

            The £24K was for the deposit, lest you imagine half a flat can be bought for that in the UK…

            And the flats have a market value, like any other.

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 8:54 am #

            You’ll like this, Exscotticus – even Craig Murray’s talking about chlorinated chicken. Your husbandry standards will soon be legendary…


          • Exscotticus October 8, 2018 at 1:17 pm #

            >>> The brown people you don’t like (many of them teachers, doctors and nurses) come from outside the EU.

            Calling me a racist is beneath you. I’m not Janos. I have no issue with other races, and you can’t find a single post proving otherwise. Links or your accusations are bullshit.

            Also, that link you posted doesn’t help your argument.

            Joint council tenants

            You automatically become the sole tenant if you are a joint council tenant and the other joint tenant dies.

            This takes priority over anyone else’s claim to inherit the tenancy.

            This applies whatever type of council tenancy you have.

            Which is just what I said. If your adult children live with you as joint tenants, and you die, then they retain residency. Thus it passes from one generation to the next.

            I agree that this doesn’t apply if the adult children live somewhere else, but then I never claimed it did.

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 8:13 pm #


            Joint tenancies are for couples. And of course you’d continue the tenancy if you were part of a couple. Just as matrimonial law dictates that my husband gets to live in my flat till he dies – and not just because I had stipulated that in my Will before we were married.

            The link I gave you demonstrates that you only get the right to ONE SUCCESSION. So you can’t create cycles. This apples to all tenancies contracted after 2012. And when anyone inherits a tenancy originally contracted before that date, theirs will be a NEW TENANCY, which will only be subject to ONE SUCCESSION.

            Noted that you have again evaded the point. The original issue was REGULATIONS AND YOUR INSISTENCE THAT MY LIKING FOR THEM WAS SOCIALIST. You still have not told me WTF regulations about flammability of cladding have to do with socialism, since they concern publicly and privately owned apartment blocks alike. I wait patiently. And no amount of wittering about council tenancies will provide the answer.

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 8:29 pm #

            And really, Exscotticus, you take umbrage at my suggestion that you don’t like brown immigrants after your comment about Grenfell Tower, having previously entirely made up an accusation that I would halve all liberties to double my pension. And you don’t even see that as disgusting?

            Really? You don’t think that’s beneath you? Well, if you don’t think it is, maybe I agree with you. In fact, I’ll just go for it. It’s not beneath you, it’s who you are.

      • PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 3:51 pm #

        yep, good post there GreenA. Life is a struggle, and I don’t think anybody has it easy.

        I don’t know if I can consider one of these people who calls themselves a ‘prepper’ (somebody preparing for a collapse). I think that the people I know just haven’t changed since the Great Depression. They sew and repair a lot of their own clothes, and not much is thrown away.

        My little brother has recently been buying and rebuilding 60 year old International Harvester tractors (lol). I’m not sure why exactly. He’s been unemployed recently and I think he needs something to do. He says he doesn’t talk to many guys under the age of 70 years old about them (ha ha).

      • PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 3:55 pm #

        btw, if you’ve never made watermelon pickles out of the rines of watermelons, try it sometime. Seriously. They are awfully good.

        • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 7:30 am #

          Perhaps 100 years of climate change will bring watermelons to Scotland, PeteA 🙂 .

          It’s good that your brother’s found something to do that he loves while he’s unemployed. I hope the unemployment doesn’t last.

          Your point about sewing and repairing clothes reminded me of something JK Galbraith said. (I do repair things myself that can be repaired – I used to turn shirt collars when they got worn, as my mother did with my dad’s shirts, but they make the stitching too tight these days to get them off without wrecking them!).

          In one of JKG”s books he was talking about how Americans had always been extremely self-sufficient in terms of making their own clothes and so on, and how much relentless marketing it took to break them of the habit.

          I like hearing from people on the site about their farming experiences – I hope your family’s farm sustains you all for a long time to come.

    • San Jose October 6, 2018 at 11:12 am #

      Pete Atomic,

      Your family property sounds like heaven on earth.



      • PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 3:53 pm #

        thanks Jen.

        yeah, it ain’t bad. Home made apple sauce is one of my favorites. It gets all chunky and delicious & goes real great with a big dollop of whipped cream on top.

        • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 10:06 am #

          Try crêpes Normandes – pancakes with ice cream, caramelised apple, and a splodge of home-made salted caramel sauce.

          My daughter had one after we’d walked through Monet’s garden in Giverny (pretentious plugging added for effect…) and it was so good we had to have them for Christmas dessert for about three years afterwards. To die for…

          • PeteAtomic October 7, 2018 at 8:12 pm #

            Oh boy those sound great!

  70. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2018 at 7:19 am #

    So, all those bioweapon labs Hillary surrounded Russia with will have to be taken out by a pinpoint thermonuclear blusts to prevent all that nasty stuff, like ebola, escaping into the air.

    Moscow accuses US of developing bioweapon on its border…

    • pequiste October 6, 2018 at 12:12 pm #

      Insulting our quite broadminded and gentlemanly host JHK are we?

      Other than posting a brief comment, or a link to a Buckminster Fuller video on an internet blog, have you written anything that has been published anywhere, Johnny?

      I would like to see you, John Galt, give a TED Talk or have a feisty conversation with Max Keiser for that matter.

      Dare ya.

      Yeah, I thought so.

  71. Tate October 6, 2018 at 10:37 am #

    “That this building looks like a snakes head…”

    Guess you have to use your imagination.

    “( No state has ever met this criteria [popular democracy & a government that works] on this scale for more than a few decades. Less than a single lifespan.)”

    What about the nations of Scandinavia?

  72. volodya October 6, 2018 at 10:51 am #

    Tate, I’m all for e pluribus unum. It’s proven to work. And, for it to work, people have to shed the old-country customs and baggage and identity, and adopt those of the majority culture.

    As the Greatly Enlightened tell us, life is a matter of Facts and Evidence. OK, so what do the facts tell us about multi-cultural countries? The facts are that they tend to be bloody, unstable places, Switzerland the notable exception. You have a list that goes to the moon and back, the latest example being Burma where the Muslim Rohingya are being rousted out, the prior example being Sri Lanka where Buddhist Sinhalese and Hindu Tamil went at it tooth and nail.

    Not to be insulting and point out the obvious, but in the USA two ethnicities that speak the same language are grappling for the levers of power and have been for a couple centuries and actually went at it in the nasty shootin’ war of 1861-1865. Right now the competition is manifested in the Kavanaugh confirmation kerfuffle.

    It’s ironic, the Greatly Enlightened talk up multi-this, multi-that, multi-ethnicity and MULTI-culturalism. But in the USA they can’t even keep the calm and mediate between TWO ethnicities and TWO cultures.

    Of course, for the Greatly Enlightened, there’s a conflict of interest seeing as they consider themselves as leaders and advocates for of one of those two contending ethnicites so they can’t even pretend to be impartial.

    You can argue that the contention is multi-layered or multi-faceted, the representatives of North and South and their respective allied states tussling for supremacy in Washington but ultimately both beholden to a small group of financiers whose aim it is to drain every last dollar out of the bank account of every last citizen and widow and orphan, Deplorable or otherwise.

    Of course these Monied Manhattanites have as their enemies the folk whose livelihoods the Manhattanites destroyed. It’s a fascinating situation, the fight being a long-standing ethnic conflict but underpinned by economic issues.

    • capt spaulding October 6, 2018 at 12:25 pm #

      In sociology, they teach that a society where there develops a competition for resources, people will split apart to compete for those resources. In a multi-cultural society, the means for division is already there. In a homogeneous society, people will create a way to separate into groups to facilitate competition. In a lot of places, different groups get along well until a scarcity develops. Once that happens, problems develop. Also, in a different example, many minority groups get along in a society until they become a large minority. Once that happens, the larger group begins to discriminate against them. It just seems to be the nature of humans to do that.

  73. SoftStarLight October 6, 2018 at 10:51 am #

    So Mr. President, it is time to finish building the wall and deport them all :-). Thank you for being you!

  74. janet October 6, 2018 at 12:50 pm #

    What we have to admit is that in his case, the women allowed it. –SoftStarLight

    The attorney for a complainant identified as “Katie Johnson,” who has accused Donald Trump of raping her when she was 13-years-old, announced that he was filing to dismiss the suit on Friday. Thomas Meagher, the attorney, also said that a new complaint would be filed and that “an additional witness” would be identified.

    Trump’s ex-wife Ivana Trump once suggested he had raped her. In her 1990 divorce deposition, Ivana Trump accused her soon-to-be ex-husband of raping her in a fit of rage the previous year.

    There are many other women who have accused Donald J. Trump of unwanted sexual attention and did not allow it when he touched them against their will.

    Jessica Leeds
    After she was moved into a first-class seat next to his, Trump lifted the armrest, touched her breasts, and “started putting his hand up [her] skirt.”

    Kristin Anderson
    Says Trump sat next to her on a couch, put his hand up her skirt, and “touched her vagina through her underwear.”

    Jill Harth
    Trump put his hands up her skirt, touching her crotch. “He was relentless … I didn’t know how to handle it. I would go away from him and say I have to go to the restroom. It was the escape route.

    Temple Taggart
    “He kissed me directly on the lips. I thought: ‘Oh, my gosh. Gross.’ He was married to Marla Maples at the time. I think there were a few other girls that he kissed on the mouth. I was like, ‘Wow, that’s inappropriate.’ ”

    Karena Virginia
    “He then walked up to me and reached his right arm and grabbed my right arm. Then his hand touched the right inside of my breast. I was in shock. I flinched. ‘Don’t you know who I am. Don’t you know who I am,’ That’s what he said to me. I felt intimidated and I felt powerless.

    Mindy McGillivray
    “This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab. It was pretty close to the center of my butt. I was startled. I jumped.”
    Davidoff corroborated the story to the Post, saying that immediately after the incident, she told him, “Donald just grabbed my ass!”

    Rachel Crooks
    She says that immediately after she introduced herself to Trump, he kissed her cheeks, then moved to her mouth. “It was so inappropriate,” she told the New York Times. “I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that.”

    Natasha Stoynoff
    “We walked into that room alone, and Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around, and within seconds, he was pushing me against the wall, and forcing his tongue down my throat. … I was stunned. And I was grateful when Trump’s longtime butler burst into the room a minute later, as I tried to unpin myself.”

    Summer Zervos
    Trump kissed her “aggressively” and touched her breast. She said he also led her into the bedroom. After she walked out, he embraced her. She tried to push him away, and he “began thrusting his genitals.”

    Cassandra Searles
    “He probably doesn’t want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room”

    Mariah Billado
    “I remember putting on my dress really quick, because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here.’ Trump, she recalled, said something like, ‘Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.’ ”
    Billado also recalled telling Ivanka Trump about the incident, telling Buzzfeed that Ivanka responded, “Yeah, he does that.”

    Bridget Sullivan
    “While preparing for the national broadcast in 2000, Trump came backstage to wish the contestants good luck, even though many of the women weren’t dressed. ‘The time that he walked through the dressing rooms was really shocking. We were all naked,’ Sullivan said.”

    Tasha Dixon
    “He just came strolling right in. There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless, other girls were naked”

    Remember when DJT said he would sue all those women who accused him of unwanted and inappropriate behavior? He did not sue any of them.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 1:11 pm #

      Yes, he should have perhaps, but people would have used it against him despite the rightness of his cause. But something has to be done against the Feminine Perjury that is destroying our society.

    • K-Dog October 6, 2018 at 1:23 pm #

      So why did the deep state let him in then? All you had to do was lay a little counter-insurgency on his ass and he’d be doing $600 hookers in his Trump towers at this very minute and not bothering anybody.

      In making the best of a bad situation we could have an erotic literature contest where everyone can try to write some good Trump porn. The trouble would be that it would be hard to write anything good.

      I first saw him as he got off the elevator. He looked to his right then he turned and saw me. “Who are you?” he said. Are you going to be in the meeting. I’m Donald.

      “Hi Donald, I’m Julie” I said as I reached out my hand. “I’m your ten o’clock

      I’m having a very hard time making anything interesting and readable after that.

      His small hands danced beneath my small clothes as he snatched my …

      Doesn’t work, it gets awkward clumsy and boring. But I’m just a dog, what do I know of such things. Can anyone help? Its hard to find shades of gray when it all appears so black and white!

      • Walter B October 6, 2018 at 3:20 pm #

        Why did the Deep State let him in you ask, very good question, but one that will never be answered. We can certainly speculate that Mr. Trump’s people cheated better than HRC’s did for cheating goes on in every election, always has, always will. The question is how much and to what result. If you recall, I have frequently asked here if The Donald was installed to give us a slow down, a bit of a break from the long slide into the Abyss. Yes, President Trump is an expert at handling bankruptcies and that argument is a valid one, and surely the thieving Clinton Crime Cartel would have drained the coffers ASAP if they knew that financial calamity was on the table. THAT would have made things a lot worse, plus they are the embodiment of evil and that kind of “leadership” must be saved for the absolute end, which is apparently not upon us….yet.

        The only other answer that I can come up with is that the Deep State certainly has the power to forcibly remove presidents from office (sorry about that Jack), but they may not have enough control to put people INTO office, at least not yet. But they are working on it.

      • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 7:45 pm #

        “he’d be doing $600 hookers in his Trump towers ”

        Your comment betrays your pedestrian roots…$600 Hookers? Try $1000+. $2000 for top shelf courtesans….

        The term “above my pay grade” has real meaning on 5th avenue.

  75. 4014HAMPHEDGE October 6, 2018 at 1:26 pm #

    Left out consistently by Doc/Prof JHK is the Spiritual and Geopolitical component part and parcel of imminent Emergency. And “Long” is omitted for a reason… Sometime JHK can go more in-depth to explain Famine Hedge role for branch line railway rebuild into agriculture districts. In California rich food producing areas like Capay Valley, Freeport/Locke; Western Eldorado County; and Knights Landing/Josephine are few of many places where rail brought out the edibles.

    Closet Bible students hereabouts can see Daniel Chapter 4 V-15 for the railway analogy. “Great Tree” descriptor fits mid-20th Century America. JHK chooses to ignore Geopolitical reality, seldom if ever talking about activity from other big players when things set chaotic. Chaos breeds chaos. China is positioning for shortage/power vacuum. Russian is doing likewise., focused on Middle East fuel and eventually, food sources.

    Troposphere EMP nuclear (likely false flag) brings US famine. See Forschen’s ONE SECOND AFTER for narrative . Book report, Mr. Jim?

    Azimov/Heinlein, or someone in their circle essayed cogent description of the Fission Bomb in 1941 AMAZING Science Fiction magazine. The Feds collected these as best they could after a month or two. My mother, getting her copy off the newsrack, was not on any subscription list, and had her tattered copy until early 1950’s, and heard the Gummint called them in, and dutifully returned her copy. I saw it and
    remember the author{s) had a comprehensive “How-To” exposition with diagrams and layman’s math/physics.

    Ike made sure enough witnesses for the Holocaust were on hand in Europe and many in US Forces to assure the deniers would stay in their corner. We know millions were stripped of their tangible wealth and bank accounts on departure, useful for funding the Wehrmacht…

    Pictures of Earth taken from the Moon. Moon petrology in exhibits at Smithsonian. true, (See GATESTONE page) there is conscious effort to erase US presence on the Moon, but this is another example of rewriting history to denigrate America’s role in the World.

    • Eoin October 6, 2018 at 1:33 pm #

      How about making history to re-establish America’s role in the world?

      This just in @ 00:05:20 H…..,

      Justice K >>> Highest Court in the Land.

      Law & Order [majority] [U.S. Constitution] safeguarded.


      Think HRC win >> SC appointments >> SC ‘Corrupt’ TILT [ex: LL]

      Now comes the real PAIN.

      Now comes the real TRUTH.





      They want you DIVIDED.

      DIVIDED by RACE.







      This movement challenges their ‘forced’ narrative.

      This movement challenges people to not simply trust what is being reported.

      Research for yourself.

      Think for yourself.

      Trust yourself.

      This movement is not about one person or a group of people.

      WE, the PEOPLE.

      Save the Republic!

      Hatred and Dissension in the Nation will Heal.



    • K-Dog October 6, 2018 at 1:36 pm #

      Could you translate this into Chinese like you used to do? I know it is a dirty trick; Jim having blocked foreign language characters to stop you so it would not appear. I found that out when I wanted to do something clever a while back and my guess is you already have too.

      Are you cultivators of the big yawn still working out of Honolulu?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 6:46 pm #

      Witnesses? Like all the Jews who said that they escaped the camps as children and were raised as wolves? A number of more normal old Jews got up on the stand during the Zundel trial and were simply humiliated – they remembered things that were shown to have never happened or their stories contradicted themselves.

      How about some physical evidence? Not the buildings built after the War that could never have contained any gas either, but only tourists, but say the Non-Existent mountains of ash that should be there.

      • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 7:59 am #


        Some things are unworthy even of you. And that’s really saying something.

        • malthuss October 7, 2018 at 4:10 pm #

          How the Chosen have worked the Holocau$t is disgusting.
          Spain gives them a right to return.–not that they had
          been in Spain. 500 years back their ‘people’
          had been there.
          Holocaust museums, WFT?

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 6:20 am #

            What on earth is wrong with a Holocaust museum?

            In the Vercors, near where my kids’ ‘other family’ have an old house, there’s a museum in the village of Vassieux-en-Vercors which commemorates the area’s resistance to the Germans and the Vichy Militia, as well as those who died, including villagers (adults and children) murdered in cold blood, and including the wounded and their carers in a makeshift hospital in a cave. You may have heard of the Vercors maquis.


            The village was awarded the Ordre de la Libération for the bravery of its people. People want to remember these things. Others, for their own nefarious reasons, would prefer to forget.

  76. janet October 6, 2018 at 1:39 pm #

    “Daniel Chapter 4 V-15 for the railway analogy. “Great Tree” descriptor fits mid-20th Century America.” –4014HAMPHEDGE

    What does the Bible say about the 21st century?

  77. Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 2:45 pm #

    The Emperor weighed in yesterday on Twitter in his usual astute fashion:

    The very rude elevator screamers are paid professionals only looking to make Senators look bad. Don’t fall for it! Also, look at all of the professionally made identical signs. Paid for by Soros and others. These are not signs made in the basement from love! #Troublemakers

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 5, 2018

    Exactly so, your Excellency.

    • SoftStarLight October 6, 2018 at 3:52 pm #

      The Emperor may just make a move against the dark one. Our Ruler is much better at chess, and one can never be sure what his next move will be. In any case, it does feel good to see the actions of the liars and posers cave in around them revealing who they are.

  78. Walter B October 6, 2018 at 3:10 pm #

    If you really believe this, and you certainly are entitled not only to your opinion but to your right to express it, why do you keep coming back here to comment? Perhaps it is just me, but I make it a point to NOT hang around stupid people because people who do so are stupid by association, are they not?

    And wasn’t John Galt a creative, productive type that became disenchanted with hanging out with stupid people and went off to form a society of his own? Perhaps this should be your goal as well. just sayin.

  79. Tate October 6, 2018 at 4:00 pm #

    This mysterious’ Banksey “artist” what a trickster! Sotheby’s just sold his painting for a cool $1.6 million but upon being gaveled down, a hidden shredder at the bottom of the frame shredded the masterpiece. Graphic art becomes performance art! Genius!

    Is this a sign of the times? How long will the markets persist at these elevated levels? Jerome Powell, is he Federal Reserve Chairman by day, “Banksey” by night?

    • malthuss October 7, 2018 at 4:14 pm #

      like the drawing artists erased.

      Why Robert Rauschenberg Erased a De Kooning – Artsy
      Digitally enhanced infrared scan of Robert Rauschenberg’s Erased de Kooning Drawing, 1953, showing traces of the original drawing by Willem de Kooning. Visible light scan by Ben Blackwell, 2010. Infrared scan and processing by Robin D. Myers, 2010.
      [Search domain]

      How Robert Rauschenberg erased a Willem de Kooning and …
      Robert Rauschenberg was an important artist, whose multifarious works combined painting with sculpture, photography and performance.To understand him a little better, read this account, published in our Phaidon Focus edition dedicated to the artist, about one of Rauschenberg’s most famous works, Erased de Kooning Drawing.
      [Search domain]…

      Robert Rauschenberg, Erased de Kooning Drawing, 1953
      He approached Willem de Kooning (1904-1997), an artist for whom he had tremendous respect, and asked him for a drawing to erase. Somewhat reluctantly, de Kooning agreed.

      After Rauschenberg completed the laborious erasure, he and fellow artist Jasper Johns (b. 1930) devised a scheme for labeling, matting, and framing the work, with Johns …
      [Search domain]

  80. PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 4:03 pm #

    well there it is folks

    Kavanaugh is in.

    I guess the media can go back to dealing in Russian conspiracy theories 🙂

    • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 7:50 pm #

      And the Old Crone is next. R B G will probably wait until the midterms to see if there is a route of Trump’s agenda. If Team Trump prevails, I expect she will retire and give Trump another appointment…she cannot hold out for another two years.

      …Thank you Sweet Jesus!

      • PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 8:49 pm #

        with all the gnashing of teeth the regressives have been doing today, that would just make their heads totally explode!

      • PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 8:52 pm #

        Janet would have a total meltdown on the blog here too, if that were to happen, LOL

  81. Exscotticus October 6, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

    Now what was that you said janet…?

    Yes, exscotticus was so confident three weeks ago. He proudly predicted the immediate confirmation of Kavanaugh and said the Dems could do nothing about it because the Republicans had the majority.

    Three weeks ago exscotticus was haughty and arrogant and certain. Now nobody can even say with certainty when, or if, a vote will be taken

    Well, janet, the lie travelled around the world before the truth put its pants on. But now the pants are on, and the truth is that Ford lied, Kav is innocent, and a new conservative Supreme Court justice is born. Democrats lose. Socialists lose. Progressives lose. Liberals lose. You lose.

    But far worse for Team Blue is that they likely purged every last trace of liberalism from the man. Just wait until issues that are near and dear to liberal hearts reach the court. Even issues that Kav might have been ideologically neutral on. Not sure if liberals really had much to fear before. But now? Yes—they should be afraid. Payback’s a…

    • janet October 6, 2018 at 4:24 pm #

      Congratulations to Justice Kavanaugh. He is such a gentleman that he would not even think of payback.

      Now, exscotticus, all that remains is your prediction of a blue trickle and a red wave. We shall see.

    • Walter B October 6, 2018 at 4:41 pm #

      Poor j-nut, sort of reminds me of the reporters on election night in 2016 yapping and boasting about how bad HRC was stomping DT and how it was all over but for the sobbing. I can only imagine how puking sick hung over they were the next day and I would assume j-nut is not going to have a good Sunday after all the shit she slung over this non-issue. Like they say, you’ve got to pick your fights and those who fight everything, well they wind up looking like shit at least half the time don’t they?

      • janet October 6, 2018 at 5:13 pm #

        Walter B, I thought it was worth fighting a compromised, illegitimate president who was able to successfully appoint a lying, alleged sexual predator to a lifetime position on the Supreme Court. I recognized that the Republican Party is a group of mostly men who would rather force an unpopular nominee and agenda on the American people than stand up to the President. It was my civic duty to fight. I often win. Life goes on when I lose. My Sunday will be fine.

        As long as Republicans control all three branches of government, there are no checks on power or investigations into crimes and corruption — no placing country above party.

        There’s only one thing I can fight for now: Register voters and win the midterms. I will not forget what happened today. The Senate endangered millions of American lives by confirming Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. This is their pattern.

        Republicans passed tax cuts for the wealthy but were unable to find money to rebuild a ravaged Puerto Rico. The Trump administration continues to separate immigrant children from their parents and hold them in internment camps — and the Republicans in Congress do nothing. Blue anger over a corrupted party and dangerous president will be reflected in the midterm elections.

        • Walter B October 6, 2018 at 5:46 pm #

          Give up the “illegitimate” president line of shit, because we did when it came to Barry Obama so it is only fair. Your comment about signing up voters and getting your message out there to them, well that is exactly how to do it. Good luck to you as well. I have been doing the same thing in my Township since 2011 and it may be a lot of work and take a lot of time, but it is how the system is set up and how it works for those who make the effort to work it. Go for it!

        • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 7:53 pm #

          “There’s only one thing I can fight for now: Register voters and win the midterms”

          No there is another path. The Marine Corps path…you know,
          “Embrace the Suck”.

          Semper Fi

  82. SoftStarLight October 6, 2018 at 4:08 pm #

    Congratulations Justice Kavanaugh, you’re efforts and success are vindicated :-)!

  83. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2018 at 4:43 pm #

    Plan B flopped. Back to Plan A. Mueller’s done.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 7:06 pm #

      We control the Vertical. We control the Horizontal. You’re time is coming to an end. A New Power is rising.

  84. Tate October 6, 2018 at 5:37 pm #

    Woo-hoo! All you butt-hurt Soros-bots can go home now.

  85. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2018 at 5:39 pm #

    The story of the ugly behavior of the Democrats against Kavanaugh raised traditional America against the liberasts.

    Donations to the Republican election campaign fund increased 11 times.

    NRCC Fundraising Increase over the past month:

    Money Raised: up 418%

    Number of donors: Up 273%

    Donations: up 279%

    Average donation size: Up 149%

    NRCC Statistics from Sept. 1-5 and Oct 1-5

    Donations up a total of 1100%

    Congratulations, partners.

  86. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2018 at 5:52 pm #

    Murkowski decided it was dangerous to pour a bucket of black paint on the canvas and voted “present”.

    Flake finally discovered his balls at the last moment and made the right choice.

    Kaine voted against, although yesterday was rumor he was going to flip. Probably was just a distracting maneuver, but it did not help.

  87. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2018 at 6:00 pm #

    Now, what’s for dinner, honey?

    Obviously, firing Rosenstein according to plan A is out of the question – he got cold feet on the 25-th coup d’etat, start singing on everyone, got exposed by his former co-conspirators through New York Times.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2018 at 6:34 pm #

      Main dish, of course, is Hillary’s indictment, just pick a crime.

      Without it, restoring the Democratic Party by somebody – like Obama – would be impossible, as well as restoring the two-party system necessary for functioning Jeffersonian Democracy.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2018 at 6:36 pm #

      Clintons in Germany now, on a friendly Reich’s territory, he he…

      • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 6:53 pm #

        Wonder if their visit has anything to do with countering Brexit and other nationalistic trends in the EU, working with Merkel. I wonder if Soros is nearby?

        I wonder if the insane admission of immigrants there is to dilute down the nationalist elements in Europe with a religion centered, Islam, large influx of people. Someone needs to tell them that language separates people. Also, let the folks in the Deep State know the same thing.

        • FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2018 at 7:01 pm #

          Wonder if their visit has anything to do with countering Brexit

          I wonder, do we have an extradition treaty with Germany?

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 7:34 am #

            You must be thinking of just after the war, Finca, when America ‘extradited’ all those Nazi scientists, so as not to let them go to waste 🙂 .

        • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 7:41 am #

          “I wonder if the insane admission of immigrants there is to dilute down the nationalist elements in Europe with a religion centered, Islam, large influx of people. ”

          Seriously, and without any agenda, I would humbly suggest that it was possibly more of a reaction spurred on by having spent 70 years working through a hideous past and feeling the need to prove – including to themselves – that Germany really is a humane country like any other. Whatever anyone thinks about the effects of such a sudden influx of immigrants, I really think it going a bit far to imagine it was all planned in advance to ‘dilute’ the population.

          And it wasn’t even Germany that was primarily responsible for the kicking off of chaos in the Middle East. Like most of the rest of continental Europe they opposed the Iraq war that set the current mess in motion. The real culprits are your country and mine – the very ones who resist taking in the refugees who are the long-term result of their lies and cynicism.

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 7:44 am #

            And Germany has been using temporary Gastarbeiter from Turkey etc.for as long as I can remember. The idea that they needed to take in asylum seekers to keep their factories and old folks’ homes churning over also seems somewhat far-fetched to me.

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 11:29 am #

            When I say ‘your country and mine’, I obviously mean ‘your government and mine’, since we got no say in the matter and our protestations were roundly ignored, given that Bush and Lapdog had long arranged the outcome.

  88. JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 6:46 pm #

    What does America stand for, old school.

    Liberty above all. Every governmental regulation reduces individual liberty. With liberty comes individual responsibility, people need to depend on themselves rather than the government, parents need to raise their children responsibly and not allow the government to dictate how their children are educated, capable people need to work for their welfare, foreign aid is wonderful as long as the USA is not hurt by it, i.e. Amarica First, worry about American autonomy first, ban the internationalists. Capitalism is not perfect, it does favor winners, the elite, and the losers must be counseled and assisted. People need to strive for their economic independence and avoid government assistance as much as possible.

    Democrats and especially Leftists strive for exactly the opposite. They want people dependent on their socialistic government, children not taught but indoctrinated. Liberty compromised for governmental control.

    Dems want to destroy the USA as it is now. Everyone, every color, every religion will lose liberty if the Dems succeed. If you want to live in China, Cuba, Venezuela, Mexico, Central America, go for it. Otherwise, vote for American integrity.

    And to you illegals, you came here to avoid oppressive governments, don’t vote, when you are enabled, for an oppressive government here. You want real opportunity and a better life, work hard and earn it. Don’t vote for liberals. If you feel you need to, please go home and live in socialism there.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2018 at 6:56 pm #

      parents need to raise their children responsibly and not allow the government to dictate how their children are educated

      and if parents are dumber than a lamp post? don’t you need some educational standards?

      It’s not all that black and white…

      • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 9:27 pm #

        Interesting observation though. Since Bush inserted testing and no child left behind scores have declined. Testing was a good idea to track the progress of education. But it has been ruined by bureaucrats using it to punish administrations and teachers. Raises depend on scores, regardless of student quality. Funding for schools depends on scores. The original purpose has been lost as teachers teach tests instead of content.Quantum mechanics says you cannot measure a particles position because the tester changes it. Education bureaucrats cannot measure progress with testing because the testing so distorts the process the testing is useless.

        Used to be 8th grade testing and the SAT or ACT tracked the education system and were administered without connection to the cirriculum.

        If people were serious about elevating test scores, they would build the Wall.

  89. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2018 at 6:51 pm #

    This Russian Double Agent Is A Lot Less Dead Than He Seemed

    At 10:30 a.m. on Oct. 9, 2016, a 64-year-old master spy and known scourge of the Kremlin ambled into a Walmart in Florida and acquired a recreational fishing license.

    For the right to fish along the saltwater shoreline, Alexander Poteyev disclosed his real name and date of birth, as well as a phone number, email, and mailing address — an odd choice, because Poteyev was hiding from Russian assassins.

    I am taking bets: what our British friends from MI6 will choose this time – Polonium or Novichok?

  90. Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2018 at 7:03 pm #


    L I T E R A L L Y S H A K I N G

    #KavanaughConfirmation I’m literally shaking with anger right now how fucking dare they vote in a r*pist

    — Rebecca Wainwright (@RebeccaWainwri9) October 6, 2018


    — nina (@softforcohan) October 6, 2018

    representatives sent a blaring message that sexual assault survivors, such as myself, don’t matter. I’m literally shaking rn, and I can’t wait for better, more humane leaders to be representing our country again.

    — mary corleone (@vicalyach) October 6, 2018

    I have never hated a human being so much before. Literally shaking so much with fury even tho I knew he was gonna make it to the SC. I. Fucking. Hate. Brett. Kavanaugh. And. The. Majority. Of. The. Leaders. Of. Our. Country. November is coming & we are gunning for you fuckers.

    — Gishie Artistry (@Gishie_Art) October 6, 2018



    Janos: Comrade! Comrade! That is not the Way. They are not responsible. They know not what they do or say. Soon we will have them back chained in the kitchen baking cookies and schnitzel. Now someone play the Horst Wessel Lied.

  91. thwack October 6, 2018 at 7:08 pm #

    Boo ya!

    Lets get this kegger started, my nigga is in like flynn!

    BTW– the FBI needs to investigate Christine Blasey Ford?

    I bet she’s been on all kinds of psycotropic medications and has been pulling these type shenanigans her whole life.


    • elysianfield October 6, 2018 at 8:06 pm #

      Ms. Ford
      We understand your angst and pain…show us your tits?

      If the above comment is not thoroughly dismissive, demeaning and insulting to express my absolute denial of Ms. Ford’s testimony, or of her emotional and mental stability, I am found wanting.

      • thwack October 6, 2018 at 8:29 pm #

        Yo E,

        I saw a photo of all these crazed, rabid women protesting at the Supreme Court, and for a tiny, brief moment, I thought to myself;

        what if they all subconsciously want to be raped?

        No, seriously, I bet theres some term used to describe people who protest against something they secretly desire?


        Like those extreme right wing Conservative who hate faggots, but secretly want to be one?

        And then theres the whole thing of wanting to be part of a “feeding frenzy” right?

        If Kavanaugh was tied up and handed over to that mob, do you think they would beat him to death?

        • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 9:12 pm #

          Hey Thawk. Estimates on crowd size at the protest was a couple of hundred or so, a major uprising for sure.

          • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 9:13 pm #

            Thwack, sorry. Spell check barfed on me.

        • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 8:06 am #

          “No, seriously, I bet theres some term used to describe people who protest against something they secretly desire?”

          It’s always my first thought regarding the homophobic. But sorry, I can’t help you with the name.

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 8:08 am #

            I wrote that too soon – I see you had already taken them into consideration. Given your own frequent use of the word ‘faggots’ (often eaten in the north of England with peas, I’m told), I’m impressed by your insight.

        • elysianfield October 7, 2018 at 11:05 am #

          If Kavanaugh were delivered to those harpies, they had better kill him, for if left alive he would probably not further their agenda while on the bench.

          The moving finger writes, and having writ…and all that.

          I believe the denial of their inner demons is culturally based, possibly hormonal, hardly intellectual.

          Just a wild ass guess…they do not understand men, and men certainly do not understand women. I would suggest that it remain the case for the continued propagation of the species.

          Question; If sex were not a factor between men and women, would men still consort with women, or would they just hunt them down and kill them as an invasive species? Likewise the women? If they did not need men for procreation, how would they respond?

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 11:34 am #

            Your question is a little tautological, EF. If sex were not a factor, there would not be men and women, just hermaphrodites of some sort.

          • elysianfield October 7, 2018 at 2:21 pm #

            Or parthenogenesis.

            Tautological? How can it be otherwise? It is a premise of whimsy…fantasy…just like “no more wars!”, or “can’t we all just get along?”, or the female orgasm….

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 6:28 pm #

            Well indeed, EF. We can do the ‘can’t we all get along?’ thing in slowly increasing circles, perhaps (had a few glasses of wine over dinner, so am feeling mellow and full of goodwill 🙂 .

            I hope the female orgasm isn’t a fantasy over your way. That would be sad 🙂 .

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 6:29 pm #

            To great a smiley-to-word ratio there – blame it on the wine…

          • elysianfield October 7, 2018 at 7:18 pm #

            “I hope the female orgasm isn’t a fantasy over your way. That would be sad”

            Perhaps the science is not settled? I have been told they occur, but it is only anecdotal evidence…and invariably subjective.

            Continuing your good point regarding the shards of religion manifesting themselves insensibly into a code of ethics…

            What if the female orgasm is merely a histrionic response to a perceived transitory state of grace?

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 4:31 am #

            Nope, it’s more physiologically banal than that, EF.

            It has been filmed. I recall a great fuss being made of it some decades ago – on a ‘Horizon’ programme or suchlike. They inserted a tiny camera and a couple did the business. The muscular contractions were filmed.

            And you may have my subjective, anecdotal assurances as well, for what they are worth.

            If the female orgasm didn’t exist, the benighted and authoritarian would not perform FGM.

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 9:36 am #

            “Continuing your good point regarding the shards of religion manifesting themselves insensibly into a code of ethics…”

            I don’t think anyone much argues that we don’t owe a debt to our Christian heritage, which underwrites much of our secular law.

            It’s a question of chicken and egg, though. I think what I was suggesting was that the code of ethics worked up over time by the earlier human brain could have manifested itself insensibly into a religion. Or several. At the beginnings of human experience, every observable thing was ‘religious’ in its symbolism.

            It could have gone differently. We might have started with roughly the same code of ethics, pieced together from observation of what seemed to be ‘good’ and ‘bad’ behaviour, but it might have latched itself onto a different character than Jesus of Nazareth, with a different ‘story’.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2018 at 1:59 pm #

        Ms Ford would begin to comply, taking off her blouse. But as the Council viewed her flabby and wrinkled neck more clearly, they would quickly reconsider, saying, “That’s enough, Ms Ford”. They don’t want to be turned into Homosexuals after all.

        One is reminded of that God didn’t make Abraham go thru with the killing of his son. He just wanted to test his willingness – his obedience in other words. We would relate this to Ms Ford to preserve the shreds of her dignity in any case.

  92. janet October 6, 2018 at 7:14 pm #

    We have just begun to fight! In January 2019 everything changes.

    Kavanaugh lied under oath about stolen emails he received when he worked at the White House. The Senate Judiciary Committee asked him about these materials three times: in 2004, in 2006, and during his recent confirmation hearings. He committed perjury every time. That is disqualifying.

    Then, Kavanaugh was credibly accused of committing multiple counts of sexual assault in his past. The FBI investigation into these allegations was a sham, as it was severely limited by the White House. These allegations must be thoroughly investigated. If these sexual assaults did occur, they are disqualifying.

    Now it looks like Kavanaugh has lied again — this time about the allegations. And, he may have conspired with Ed Whelan to discredit Dr. Christine Blasey Ford’s testimony, bringing the judiciary into disrepute. If that’s true, it is further evidence that he corruptly obtained this Supreme Court seat — and it’s disqualifying.

    • Exscotticus October 6, 2018 at 7:31 pm #

      >>> We have just begun to fight!

      No, actually, you’ve been fighting Trump for over three years. And you’ve been losing to Trump for over three years. I guess practice makes perfect!

      >>> In January 2019 everything changes.

      Not the Supreme Court!

    • BackRowHeckler October 6, 2018 at 7:42 pm #

      Hey, Little Jane …

      The wins are beginning to pile up.

      “time to settle scores” — Brett Kavanaugh

      Malthus, Jim’s ‘Eyesores of the Month’ architectural monstrosities, mostly tax payer funded, do you notice most of them exist in lefty controlled cities like Austin, Boston and San Francisco, excercises of narcissism by the progressive elite and people who know more than everybody else, ‘specially deplorable dirt people in detestable flyover country?


    • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 8:58 pm #

      The liars are on the other side. No one else seems to want to say it, so I will. The whole damn thing was a fabrication done by people who promised to do anything to stop Trump’s nomination. Ford coordinated with the Dems assisted by her friend in Del., both associated with the intelligence community. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it. Did she get assaulted ar all is in doubt, let alone the other two liars trying to stop Trump.

      Sorry ladies, it did not work. The Dems will forget the whole thing when hopefully an investigation starts to nail these connivers.

    • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 9:05 pm #

      Bull on all three!

    • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 9:10 pm #

      Your are right though, in January, 2019, the increased GOP majority in the Senate will assist the retained majority in the House to start to reverse the liberalization that has occurred in the last thirty years. Things are definitely going to change.

    • BornToKillPeace October 7, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

      Janet, did Hufffington Post tell you that?

      Funny how it is hufffing-ton post. Is that suppose to be some sort of onomatopoeia?

      *huffff* He’s a male *hufff* he’s bad. *hufffff*

  93. Tate October 6, 2018 at 7:22 pm #

    “We know millions were stripped of their tangible wealth and bank accounts on departure…”

    Well, they did strip folks of their property & liberty. That much can’t be denied. OTOH, Zyklon B makes a good fumigant/pesticide, reducing typhus outbreaks. Just sayin’.

  94. pequiste October 6, 2018 at 8:05 pm #

    Upthread somewhere Elysianfield suggested, as Brett Kavanaugh has been approved by the Senate to be a justice of the Supreme Court, that alleged USMC “Janet” to “…embrace the ______…..” and to fill in the blank.

    And, curiously, just a little bit above here, the CFN’s resident mushrik congratulates Justice Kavanaugh. Charming. Maybe Janet isn’t holed up at Mount Holyoke College? Or was that Georgetown? N.Y.U.? Maybe Janet is really Carlos Danger or possibly his ex-wife Huma Abedin (or maybe even Felonia ” Cankles” Von Pantsuit herself? (Internet anonymity is a great thing sometimes, no? Just ask the alphabet soup agencies, inter alios Tim Cook, T-Shirt Zuckerberg, Sergei Brin…. )

    I should like to make a small syntactic alteration to Elysian’s suggestion: Janet – suck the embrace.

  95. pequiste October 6, 2018 at 8:27 pm #

    A tip of the old straw boater to our (fer us Americans that is) newest U.S. Supreme Court Justice, Brett Kavanaugh.

    Spike Jones was way ahead of his time too.

    “it’s tough to be a girl musician…….”

    And so be warned, Mr. Justice Kavanaugh, you shall inevitably have to hear this case and make a ruling on it also.

    • thwack October 6, 2018 at 8:43 pm #

      “it’s tough to be a girl musician…….”



      But only if you are good.

      I found out about Eva Cassidy through Chuck Brown; I was like “WTF?”

      “who bitch dis is?”

      They try to put GOOD female musicians in a box, with a painted sky on the inside and tell them “this is the whole world…”

      She knew it was a lie, and rejected it.

      • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 8:20 am #

        Eva C. is fabulous. She wasn’t really known at all in the UK until after she died.

        I listen to her often. What a voice…

  96. thwack October 6, 2018 at 9:00 pm #

    One of the cool things about being a black person is, when they do a background check, these creepy ass crackers can only go back so far before the hit a slave ship; then the “investigation” shifts into reverse.

    Just sayin

  97. JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 9:04 pm #

    Hey, let Janet have her delusions. After she loses, over and over, it is entertaining to see the new fabrication she comes up with.

    GOP, vote! This country is too wonderful to let the Liberals destroy it.
    America and capitalism at its worst is still better than liberal socialism at its best.

  98. PeteAtomic October 6, 2018 at 9:20 pm #

    I can’t wait for 2020 now, with Michael Avenatti showing up to the democratic debates with Stormy, and now his new deranged project named Julie Swetnick as part of his growing entourage of lunatics & opportunistic adult film starlets.

    • JohnAZ October 6, 2018 at 9:33 pm #

      These are the spiritual leaders of the

    • BackRowHeckler October 6, 2018 at 11:16 pm #

      Actually don’t be too surprised if you see some of the babes protesting in the Senate office building showing up in one of Michael Avenatti’s movies, along with Stormy Daniels and other distinguished ladies of the Big Screen.

      George Soros might be getting tired of funding all these protest movements that come out on the losing end, and protest pay — $14.92 per hour — might be drying up.

      And a girl has to make a living.


  99. Walter B October 6, 2018 at 10:02 pm #

    And you sir, are a mindless douche. Go away, flee while you still can.

  100. KesaAnna October 6, 2018 at 10:25 pm #

    Guess you have to use your imagination.

    Indeed . That’s the conclusion I myself came to after I thought about it a few hours.

    for example ; Jesus’s head looks like a snake because this particular set of photos are OUT OF FOCUS , and from a particular angle , not any other angle.

    And so it is with the rest. You could have photographed the building from any one of a dozen other angles , and from those angles it looks nothing like a snakes head.

    ” “( No state has ever met this criteria [popular democracy & a government that works] on this scale for more than a few decades. Less than a single lifespan.)”

    What about the nations of Scandinavia? ”

    The relevant words were , ” on this scale ” .

    And on this scale , what about Sweden or Denmark ?

    A hiker in decent shape could walk from one side of Sweden to the other in three days.

    People live there. It is a country . And they have Starbucks and McDonalds . And that’s about it for the comparisons.

    Comparing any country in Europe , except Russia , to the United States is plain ludicrous.

    My best friend , we have been friends almost ten years , lives in Sweden by the way.

    and again , there is no comparison.

    You want to save the United States ? I think you might best do that by making realistic and proportional comparisons.

    And your realistic and proportional comparison is Russia.

    i think it is tilting at windmills , because your realistic and proportional comparison is Russia .

    • KesaAnna October 6, 2018 at 10:36 pm #

      Here’s a tidbit for you ; How does the Prime Minister of Sweden , the head honcho of the entire country , stump for votes ?

      He goes door to door , hitting up housewives and warehouse clerks.

      Like I said , no comparison.

      Your own conclusions point there.

      I can only guess that like so many Americans , you don’t see that your own conclusions point to it , because you will not dare the question.

  101. KesaAnna October 6, 2018 at 11:10 pm #

    ” And I was talking about the Pope, and you answered by talking about Jefferson and Hitler. ”

    I have been very harsh with you in the past , and I was , believe it or not , trying to palliate that somewhat.

    I’m not going to argue with people who claim that Martians built the Egyptian pyramids , or that Leonardo Da Vinci was Illuminati …..

    On second thought …..

    Let us say that Leonardo was Illuminati ; most of these “futuristic ” designs of his , like his armored car , which prove he was suuuuuucchh a genius were …….borrowed from others.

    News flash ; He was not a very important person. It’s like lionizing Sylvia Plath.

    Pope Francis is a clumsy idiot. Even if he were a Satanist — which is just a fucking stupid claim — I’m just not going to get my panties in a twist over a stupid Satanist.
    He might do the Virgin Mary some slight harm if he accidentally falls on top of her.

    In my view , a really bad Pope was John Paul II .

    No , not because of anything he , himself , did.

    Unfortunately John Paul II was a rock star.

    So we are currently dealing with too many people who ought to be old enough to know better , but never the less refuse to appreciate that we have had 2,000 years of usually less than stellar Popes.

    If you want a rock star , pay your 50 bucks , and go to a rock concert !

    Otherwise grow up and fuck off.

    Am I being unkind ?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2018 at 6:52 pm #

      Stupid? Why? He doesn’t believe in Catholicism and he’s best friends with famous homosexuals and abortionists. If you don’t know all this, that’s fine. It just means you don’t care to know and aren’t serious – and therefore not worth talking to about it.

  102. SoftStarLight October 6, 2018 at 11:26 pm #

    When the New Power rises we won’t have any use for a Pope for He will be our King and our Spiritual Leader. Didn’t you know?

    • KesaAnna October 7, 2018 at 12:57 am #

      The United States is so important that it is not even mentioned once in the New Testament or the Old.

      But to listen to the average Protestant you would never think so.

      And why the fuck are you addressing me anyway ?

      This forum , for example , is chock full of folks who subscribe ( or really pretend to subscribe ) to the Candy Land notion that the concept of justice can stand in isolation apart from the idea of an afterlife.

      But I’m wasting my breath no doubt.

      Protestantism has been 500 years of ever increasing atomization and isolation, the upshot of which is that the atheists do whatever the fuck they want to do.

      Didn’t you know ?

      • SoftStarLight October 7, 2018 at 10:15 am #

        We never needed a Pope. We don’t need a Pope. We will never need a Pope. That’s because he isn’t a true spiritual leader

      • elysianfield October 7, 2018 at 11:28 am #

        “This forum , for example , is chock full of folks who subscribe ( or really pretend to subscribe ) to the Candy Land notion that the concept of justice can stand in isolation apart from the idea of an afterlife. ”

        If your statement is accurate, how do you justify punishment while living, when one’s comeuppance will surly come after death?
        Is that not “double jeopardy”? Is that not a tacit admission of the lack of a future “reward”?

        Or are you suggesting that cultural/moral values generated by a religion is the basis of the concept of justice?

        “Protestantism has been 500 years of ever increasing atomization and isolation, the upshot of which is that the atheists do whatever the fuck they want to do. ”

        Kesa, Atheists do not “do what they want” anymore than the religious. Why can atheists not have a moral code that is intrinsic…not being enforced by a man holding a cudgel wearing a collar? What if human “morality” is simply “empathy”? Many atheists are genteel, certainly not wanton beasts…like the Southern Baptists….

        • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 11:49 am #

          And re your intrinsic code based on empathy, EF, those of us no longer under the influence of even a benign-ish collar might argue that the idea of a justice-dispensing afterlife was simply invented by the human mind because it couldn’t cope with the lack of justice dispensed by an indifferent universe. Religious people argue teleologically, somewhat inevitably.

          There’s no doubt that free-thinking makes social organisation more complicated, in that it’s easier to manage a society where everyone accepts hand-me-down religious ‘truths’. It depends whether people value the truth or the ease of social organisation more, perhaps.

          • elysianfield October 7, 2018 at 2:04 pm #

            Well, perhaps. But consider your internalized humanity might be mistaken for those hand me downs…I can see that those shreds of a catechism might become a baseline otherwise.

            What, however, of the cultures not tainted by western religion? Those societies were different, but not living necessarily in a state of chaos. The Inuit, the Aborigines, the Polynesians….

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 8:29 am #

            I was thinking more broadly (I think), EF. Everything we have is a hand-me-down, including out ability to think and the circumscribed way we do it.

            I suspect all societies have observed that cruelty and other base human practices in themselves and have formulated religious of other primitive hypotheses to explain them and to push themselves to embrace behaviours that tended more towards societal success, security, peace, stability etc. Back when ‘happiness’ was not yet a thing.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2018 at 2:04 pm #

          But men ARE beasts by and large, and need the cudgel of Religion and State, Carrot and Stick. Empathy? Sure most have some – for their own friends and family and not their fellow citizens per se. We’ve never had the Nation as one big family like the Japanese have. And with increasing diversity, obviously we never will.

          • elysianfield October 7, 2018 at 2:10 pm #

            Yes, what you say cannot be argued against…hence, human history…a good argument, also for the need of tribal security and order.

  103. BackRowHeckler October 6, 2018 at 11:40 pm #

    So all 60 million Trump voters are stupid?

    And everybody who voted for Hillary was smart?

    Now I get it.


    • bibliomaniac October 7, 2018 at 9:48 am #

      Argue with the scientists, man. I’m just the messenger here.

    • bibliomaniac October 7, 2018 at 10:08 am #

      But I will tell you, brh, that I think we’re getting screwed by both parties. The corporations now run the country–Trump is just a symptom of the whole sick operation. We need a massive revolution–of what kind, I’m not sure.

  104. KesaAnna October 7, 2018 at 12:41 am #

    ” And yet she is widely considered to be the best monarch the English ever had, for those who admire monarchs who would Make England Great Again. ”

    I just got through reading a biography about her later years. The author seems to like her , never the less , he says the ” beloved Queen Bess ” is a myth. For the average Joe , they could scarce see a difference between a Yorkist , a Tudor , or a Stuart , or a real substantive difference between Anglicanism and Catholicism.

    So they really didn’t given a shit.

    The people who controlled the propaganda did care . Because , perhaps , if the Catholics came back they would lose their places or even their heads.

    And the people who controlled the propaganda ? Walsingham , Burghley and Essex , all , clearly , looked down on her.
    It’s hard to find one of them who didn’t.

    The author says the myth is pretty much based on 400 years of biography that would rather quote Shakespeare than bother to look at the original source materials.

    ” those who admire monarchs who would Make England Great Again. ”

    if you are going to psychologize ( to borrow a phrase from Ayn Rand ) then so will I.

    ” Make England great again ” seems to imply that England isn’t so great , unless Scottish and Irish hirelings are down in Zambia or some such place beating the natives over the heads with sticks.

    though Elizabeth Tudor herself was consistently skeptical of overseas adventures , even if ” overseas ” was just a hop over to Holland.

    And if that is not what they are implying ; The degree to which her regime resorted to the gallows makes ” Bloody Mary ” look timid and conservative to a fault.
    That it was a merry time in England would make a cat laugh.

    But maybe that is precisely why it was great ?

    It seems to me that far more often than not , the definition of “great ” is ; Sadism.

    Like the greatest American President presided over the greatest slaughter of American citizens in its history.

    ” Interesting that you only chose to impugn the mother and not the father, though. ”

    Since I’m female , a former sex trade worker , a rape victim , and several times people have complained on here about my walls of text , I kinda doubt it.

    I guess I should have just added , ” The Tudors can go to Hell , the whole lot of them , male and female. Fuck them. ” ?

    There will be complaints if I write too little , and complaints if I write too much. And lies about a happy medium.

    ” Which perhaps suggests that a child should never be blamed for its parents nor be in any way sullied by who they are, even if they are a ‘whore’ and a vicious, womanising psychopath. ”

    How touching. Now I feel all warm , fuzzy , and teary.

    In my experience , commonly , when people don’t like the way the abstractions are tending , they want to trot out the individuals.

    But when it is an abstraction they like , they are quite content to ignore any number of individuals.

    For example , some child gets raped. Everybody wants to climb on to that bandwagon. Lets focus on that child ( even though you don’t even fucking know that child , and will be on your merry way again in less than a week. ) and on the perpetrator.

    But then when a recent former Vice President wanted to point out that promiscuity and divorce results in two out of three children being consigned to poverty , with incalculable harm done throughout their lives , he was shouted down by the crowd within hours.

    It seems like suddenly nobody really gives a fuck about the fucking over of children.

    The other day I was reading a book about Putin’s Russia ,

    When the wall came down all these Russian -Americans went over to Russia to “help ” their cousins.

    In nine out of ten cases it finally came down to their Russian cousins finally putting it to them , ” Hey , if you really want to help us, then why don’t you just write us a check ? ”

    I could only laugh. I have been there.

    • Eoin October 7, 2018 at 1:41 am #

      You are the sexiest/smartest, but not necessarily in that order, woman in the world;
      just sayin’

      • K-Dog October 7, 2018 at 4:10 am #

        To harbor such angst with the irrationality and ignorance of humankind could indicate an inability to make a positive adjustment to the situation. That would not be smart.

    • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 6:19 am #


      You seem to have missed the irony in my point about Making England Great Again, which surprises me. I thought the capitals would kind of give it away.

      “That it was a merry time in England would make a cat laugh.”

      Quite. Hence the irony.

      “I guess I should have just added , ” The Tudors can go to Hell , the whole lot of them , male and female. Fuck them. ”

      Again, why would you think I would disagree? (And not just them.) I’m not the monarchist here. My admiration for any past monarch is related only to the degree to which they made the lives of their subjects bearable, but if they did that at the expense of enslaving or murdering other peoples I own them no admiration. And certain people on here who would suggest that this monarch or that – or this church or that – ‘only’ burned this many human beings alive – just make my stomach churn.

      As for the abstractions, the fucked-over individuals and the cheque books, I’m not sure why you’d think I disagree with you there either. There are many of ‘us’, whoever we all are, who get our bank cards out when children are orphaned and (adults too) made homeless following earthquakes, tsunamis, wars and droughts, as well as giving regularly to outfits providing more banal everyday support to homeless youngsters in our cities and others who just benefit from a few hot meals, showers and doctors’ visits over Christmas. They’re not all forgotten. We are aware that our response is pathetic, given our relative comfort, but, as you point out, we don’t know the individuals, so we do what pathetic little we can in our clumsy way. Americans are among the most generous, in fact, although Northern Ireland appears to hold the record for charitable giving.

      I still prefer to see people giving to the people of a suffering region without needing the fuzzy feeling of having a name and photos of an individual child they’ve ‘sponsored’, rather than an attention freak like Madonna wearing an adopted child like costume jewellery. But that’s probably mean. In fact I’m sure it is.

    • elysianfield October 7, 2018 at 11:31 am #

      “But then when a recent former Vice President wanted to point out that promiscuity and divorce results in two out of three children being consigned to poverty , with incalculable harm done throughout their lives , he was shouted down by the crowd within hours. ”

      Shouted down by a crowd, not necessarily our crowd….

    • FincaInTheMountains October 7, 2018 at 11:45 am #

      The author says the myth is pretty much based on 400 years of biography that would rather quote Shakespeare than bother to look at the original source materials.

      That is because “original source materials” are prone to political lies of the winners, while the Shakespearean Drama contains Artistic Truth which can not be forged in principle (since it would cease to be Artistic Truth).

  105. janet October 7, 2018 at 2:00 am #


    “People think that nothing will happen, everything is so powerful, everything is so strong and stable, there will be no negative consequences. But, no, they come sooner or later,” Putin said, emphasizing that “they really are taking a saw to the branch they are sitting on.”

    The U.S. government, led by Donald Trump, has been imposing economic and trade sanctions on different countries, including but not limited to Venezuela, Iran, China and Russia. On Wednesday, the World Court ordered the U.S. to ease up on sanctions. Teheran argued that the sanctions imposed violated the terms of the 1955 Treaty of Amity between both countries.

    The sanctions imposed by the U.S. government are causing damage to the countries to which they are imposed, but also causing a lot of “collateral” economic damage to other countries.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 7, 2018 at 9:54 am #

      It is unclear which sanctions are imposed by Trump and which by the shadow government run by Hillary.

      There is still Dual power in US.

  106. FincaInTheMountains October 7, 2018 at 4:54 am #

    Gorbachev and the NSDAP or why there will be no new Cold War

    It seems that Putin called Gorbachev and said:

    “Listen, Gorby, you are a rock star like Mick Jagger!

    Either you use your “popularity” in the West to break through the information blockade of the NSDAP and explain to the Americans that there will be no Cold War anymore, or you go on trial for treason and testify for the demand for reparations after I explain it to them. Where, by the way, is the Soviet gold?!”

    First of all, why do people who do not want to fight, fight?

    1st reason animalistic: Because there are people who want to fight and to kill, and the only thing that can stop them is the prospect of being killed in the next half hour, instead of killing other people after that half an hour expired.

    2nd reason philosophical: There are people who believe that war is the natural state of humanity and either you do “them” (no matter who), or they do you. Therefore, there can be no peace in principle, and those who are talking about peaceful coexistence and cooperation are simply puppets of the other side, trying to prevent “their side” from preparing for war with others. Well, pacifists and supporters of all the good against all evil on the other side are “our useful idiots” or spies and they should be used in full.

    The third reason is existential: people fight because the peace offered by the other side is worse than war, and many times worse. For example, if the whole world had agreed to submit to Hitler, then there would have been no World War II, but life in submission to Hitler for the Soviet people was worse than the horrors of the Great Patriotic War. Worse! Many times!

    The fourth reason Christian. The proposed peace is an attempt to build Hell on Earth, which the Antichrist will undertake, and for the citizens of the Christian Empire, refusing to fight against such “peace” is tantamount to giving up their role of Katechon and accordingly giving up on Christ.

    The Cold War was possible because the Soviet people who had won the Great Patriotic War understood perfectly the existential aspect of the war, but forgot the Christian one. And when the detente of international tension occurred after the catastrophic defeat of the United States in Vietnam, too many came to the conclusion that the Cold War was not a war, but a competition between two socio-economic systems.

    And when the Soviet system lost to its own nomenklatura, which imagined itself the bourgeoisie (and really becoming one), no one understood that this was a victory of the American bourgeoisie over the Soviet people.

    It should be borne in mind that both the American bourgeoisie and the American people are ambivalent in their understanding of history, because after Roosevelt’s death, people came to power in the United States who frankly said that Hitler’s Germany, not Stalin’s USSR, was a natural ally of the United States.

    And after the obvious NSDAP clung to the victory of the American bourgeoisie, the Soviet people and many other nations, into which USSR fell apart, saw that the peace after the end of the Cold War from an existential point for them is not too different from the peace proposed by Hitler and Co.

    It was simply that the genocide of the local population was assigned to black realtors and other gangsters, whom the former nomenklatura, now the liberal bourgeoisie, with black humor, turning into special cynicism, called the “invisible hand of the market”, just as the execution of Jews in Babi Yar was assigned to local personnel, and not German soldiers.

    And only for this reason, after the experience of the damned 90s, any attempt to return to the state of the Cold War will immediately turn on the logic of the Great Patriotic War, especially since military operations on the territory of Ukraine can be considered as proxy war only by those who lost their fucking mind and think that 20 years of propaganda can erase 600 years of history.

    A separate question is the influence on the course of the future war of the religious aspect, but first I can remind you that even the USSR did not do very well during the Second World War until Stalin, in spite of the official Soviet atheism, remembered the role of the Katechon Russia played, and the famous meeting in 1943 restoring the Orthodox Church in Russia was undoubtedly an acknowledgment of this fact.

    Moreover, the presence of nuclear weapons on both sides makes the upcoming war religious by default, since it will not be Nuremberg that will be judging its consequences, but the Last Judgment and the severity of the charges will be truly apocalyptic.

  107. JohnAZ October 7, 2018 at 9:29 am #

    Well, maybe the Libs are finally losing their lock on the power structure in DC. Soros may be giving up on financing all the unrest in the country? Let us hope so! It was disgusting to watch the protest organizers instructing their minions on where to go, what to say and how to behave. The video of the woman leaving the Kav hearing and being paid for what she did. It is so obvious what is going on! $14 an hour to act like an ass, what a great deal.

    What infuriates me though is the press. Even Fox! Do they ever show the pro Kav protesters, no! After the vote, who gets showcased by the press, all the Dems bitching and threatening. The only GOP getting one iota of credit was Susan Collins. When they cover the protests, they get right in the middle of the “huge” crowd. The crowd at the Supreme Court was estimated to be a few hundred, big deal. Dems have been excellent for a couple of generations at promoting their agenda and having a candy ass GOP kowtowing to them. Why? Because they are afraid of the press! How do we get more balance in the press? Good question. Maybe by stopping the funding of bankrupt news agencies by the globalist forces and letting their demise occur will balance the coverage. Face it folks, liberalism is fading out for the time being, and hopefully, progressivism is dead permanently.

    Currently, Trump’s minions are growing as the RINO’s are starting to realize that they are more oriented to Trump’s agenda than they thought. Maybe they have finally pulled on their big boy and girl panties after he beat them in 2016. The GOP is rapidly now turning into Trump’s party. Which is why the Left hates him so much. Add onto that that the revolution is winning, and the Red wave in November will hopefully drive a few more nails into the Dems coffin.

    What di I want to see? A New Democratic Party rising from the ashes of the old, leaving the I hate America progressives behind. And maybe give the Progressives California to go and try to make their doctrines work. Not likely!

    • FincaInTheMountains October 7, 2018 at 9:48 am #

      They are sat down, told to not do anything, say anything or discuss anything UNTIL they get an attorney. At which time, the attorney is handed a letter from the investigating unit. That letter says in essence, this is how screwed you are. If you want to be less screwed you will sign this letter of cooperation and assist us. When we don’t need you, you sit there. When we do we will call you and you will provide what we need. Any deviation from this agreement lands you in jail for the full term.…

    • SoftStarLight October 7, 2018 at 11:02 am #

      Both parties are really already dead but they haven’t completely figured it out, especially the party elders. They are being replaced by a nationalist party that’s just a little baby right now :-).

      • JohnAZ October 7, 2018 at 11:36 am #

        Right on! Trump is like Fremont and Lincoln with the Republican Party of the 1850’s, a vanguard proposing an alternative to the two parties incompetence.

        Something to add to my prior diatribe, IMHO, the press is responsible for inflaming the division in the country. Their penchant for “sensationalism breeds readership” is leading the country into a pit, from which it may not arise intact. It would be an interesting study to see if the press of the 1850’s didn’t do the same thing. I think a pundit is nothing but a politician with little talent for persuasion and kissing babies. Egos are certainly the same.

        Add onto this, of course, is the attempted liberal coup of America by the globalist forces.
        I really have a problem with the Dems feeling that the US belongs to them and every other opinion must and will be crushed at any cost. Talk about dictatorships, their opinion reminds me of Hitler’s fascism. Sorry Dems, this country does NOT belong to you. Cuba is available where you can sell your brand of BS.

        • SoftStarLight October 7, 2018 at 12:20 pm #

          And so at the moment, the most critical focus should be put to removing any trace of globalism from our midst. It is unworkable and unreasonable for any respectable country. Why rely on those who hate you and your destiny?

        • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2018 at 2:11 pm #

          And the new Party must be in line with what the Founders thought about Race – in other words, White Nationalist.

          I’ve posted this several times over the years. It is very long. To my knowledge, no one has ever read it because no one has ever commented on it. But you do seem open to learning, a wonderful thing. As Confucius said, There are men more gifted than I, but I have never met one more eager to learn.

          • SoftStarLight October 7, 2018 at 2:45 pm #

            Thanks for sharing! It wasn’t long at all really and I did learn things I never heard in school. I guess no surprise there since most of what I learned was leftist indoctrination as I am realizing ;-). So that is part of what you meant when you said something like to go forward we have to go back? It is liberating to feel and say that white is beautiful!

          • SoftStarLight October 7, 2018 at 2:47 pm #

            oh, and to know :-)!

          • Tate October 7, 2018 at 3:18 pm #

            I’ve watched it before. J.T. may not win many new friends with that one but it is historically informative. I read somewhere within the last two weeks that at one point (maybe 1776?), in order to send all the blacks back to Africa, it would have cost the equivalent of 1/3 of GDP. No wonder it never happened.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2018 at 5:07 pm #

            Sorry SSL, that’s just a teaser. This is what I was thinking of:


          • SoftStarLight October 7, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

            No problem! So, I have some homework to do. It certainly isn’t the worst fate at all :-)!

          • SoftStarLight October 7, 2018 at 7:22 pm #

            I didn’t realize how central of a consideration race was in all things in America until JFK. Very eye-opening indeed! It does make sense though. Why should we feel bad wanting to have a united country for our race? We are not saying other races cannot have their countries. Just, that we want ours too and leave us alone :-p.

  108. akmofo October 7, 2018 at 10:52 am #

    Mrs Green, just for you.

    Golden Shower, Israel Style:

    • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 12:06 pm #

      That’s lovely, thank you akmofo.

  109. elysianfield October 7, 2018 at 11:11 am #

    “P.S. Kunstler, you and your faithful sycophants perfectly exemplify the crisis of ignorance, in the old republic.”
    Yours Truly,
    John Galt.

    …Beat me…Whip me…Stop it some more….

  110. bibliomaniac October 7, 2018 at 12:10 pm #

    “human affairs in the 21st century have entered a hazardous period of disorderly change… investments in complexity with diminishing returns.”

    Now, Mr. Kunstler, you are hitting your stride. Michael Lewis’ “Fifth Risk” echoes Joseph Tainter, who brought this scenario to our attention in the 80’s with his book “The Collapse of Complex Societies.”

    What we have now is a Rube Goldberg machine with too many moving parts, all of them dependent on ENERGY, the critical elixir to keep running the mess, a rapidly declining energy return on energy invested (EROEI), and a lack of the technical expertise to keep it all from imploding.


    • JohnAZ October 7, 2018 at 12:15 pm #


      Your last paragraph is such a solid, concise statement of where we are it should be framed and hung in the Oval Office.

      • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 12:30 pm #

        I have a book somewhere in my house called Physics for Future Presidents.

        Perhaps it needs a Foreword on EROEI… and maybe an Epilogue on the same, for emphasis.

        And then probably a very effective marketing manager.

        • malthuss October 7, 2018 at 4:03 pm #

          Leaders need NLP. Clinton is rumored to have used NLP.
          Leaders are actors.
          NOT Prophets. Cassandra?

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2018 at 6:00 pm #

            I had to look that up, malthuss, and have to admit to complete ignorance on the subject.

            So I’d still rather people with political responsibility had some notion of science, so that, among other things, they’d get that you can’t have infinite growth on a finite planet.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2018 at 6:59 pm #

            Alba, where do you stand on Kavanaugh ascending to the Supreme Court? Do you think women should be believed without evidence – as long as all the right people support them? Is physical reality malleable, subject to change by human consciousness? If enough women scream loudly enough, does the rape charge become true? If not, then why not subject the Holocaust claims to scientific scrutiny?

          • elysianfield October 7, 2018 at 7:08 pm #

            If I might;

            “On one issue, at least, men and women agree: they both distrust women.”

            ? H. L. Mencken

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 6:30 am #


            Having been lied to by several men – an experience widely shared by womanhood in general – I feel no need to take your borrowed assertion any further.

            People lie – quite a lot. I attempt to be as honest as I can, which puts me at a disadvantage, but I will not change my habits.

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 6:30 am #

            Ah, Janos, you noticed that I took no part in the he said/she said discussions.


          • GreenAlba October 8, 2018 at 7:20 am #

            And you seem to be preparing material for a book on How to Write Leading Questions. Good luck with it.

            I’ve already made the point I consider most important in all of this fiasco, which is that I find it extremely unfortunate that people are appointed to the highest court in the land on the basis of political partisanship, when they should be appointed on the basis of the greatest possible lack of it.

            Elrond gave me some background, which I appreciate. I still find the system, in this context, appalling. I believe other levels of judicial appointments are also politically partisan in your country, in a way that is not the case in other jurisdictions. But it is your system and I wish you joy of it. You seem to be getting some just now, so well done you.

            But I’m not surprised that the system itself leads to a certain level of hysteria from time to time, when it should be the bastion of the exact opposite.

  111. Tate October 7, 2018 at 12:27 pm #

    Hey, maniac, methinks that that research could be of the same caliber as “Human Reactions to Rape Culture & Queer Performativity at Urban Dog Parks in Portland, Oregon”?…

  112. FincaInTheMountains October 7, 2018 at 1:12 pm #

    The Mystery of Judicial Confirmation Hearings of Judge Kavanaugh

    The most striking impression in 10 years of daily observation of American politics, or rather, its reflection in the mirror of American and not only American media, is undoubtedly the gap between those Trump supporters who watched the confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh in real-time and those watched this on the edited video reports of any media, either democratic, or republican.

    For the latter, everything is cl