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Am I imagining that Oprah Winfrey launched her presidential campaign last night at the Golden Globes Awards? Well, why not? Unlike the Golden Golem of Greatness, skulking fiery and furious in his lonesome White House tweet chamber, Americans of all identity persuasions love Oprah. Unlike the president, who attained “stable [for now] genius” status without ever reading a book, Oprah displays real curiosity about this vexing and wondrous world, and an eagerness to engage with it. Unlike the maestro of the janky Trump brand, with his penchant for serial bankruptcy and stiffing the help, Oprah appears capable of running a business empire.

Let’s face it: the Democratic Party has no other figure of gravitas on the bench. Everybody trusts Oprah, probably even more than the erstwhile Barack Obama, with his dogged allegiance to Wall Street and his fifty percent taint of innate white male cis-hetero patriarchical depravity. Oprah might be the Democratic Party’s last best hope before it collapses into the mausoleum of US political history, where the Whigs, Free Soilers, and Anti-Federalists lie a’moldering.

Politics in this land has failed in its effort to become show business, while show business is succeeding wildly in its attempt to replace politics. All Washington can produce these days is a succession of tedious irresolvable soap operas. Hollywood is enacting a grand moral drama of clear-cut heroines and villains, victims and oppressors, sticking to archetypal story-line of our lifetime: the campaign for freedom, equality, and decency. Show business loves the desert sunshine; politics is mired in the Potomac swamp. Oprah even has better hair than the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Oprah herself is an object lesson in the social and political themes that America dares not talk about: a person of humble origins who succeeded wildly in American life by signing onto a once-sturdy and now-fading common culture. In fact, Oprah probably embodies all that remains of American common culture, and the multitudes adore her for it. They are reassured to know that the binding verities still exist. She moves in a realm where blackness and whiteness are emphatically irrelevant — which is surely a relief to people of good will who are sick of race-hustling from all quarters. Though she has credibly acted plenty of sharecropper roles in the movies, Oprah speaks English beautifully and doesn’t apologize for moving up from the ghetto patois of her rough childhood. She may not write all her own material — such as Sunday’s Golden Globes speech that may live on like MLK’s I Have a Dream oration — but she delivers her message with conviction. And who knows, maybe she did compose all or part of it.

One upshot of this is that Oprah might be capable of squaring the circle of America’s black-white racial quandary, which Mr. Obama could not accomplish: namely, restoring the idea that we have more in common as countrymen (countrypersons?) than the artificial barriers of the cultural Marxists falsely insinuate; that skin color, ethnic origin, religious order, and gender do not define adequately what we can be in the world, and maybe we would be better off putting those things aside and just work earnestly to bring out the best in ourselves without excuses..

This country is dying to put its house order. I daresay this is true of the great majority including the immiserated flyover folks who got snookered by Mr. Trump, and the big city hipsters who are coming into their years of power in the awful dimming of American prospects, and maybe even some of the suits in the corporate C-suits who still possess tattered memories of high school civics. I’m not promoting Oprah for president, but just you watch: somebody will. It is going to happen. The country faces enormous problems and predicaments, and the one-man soap opera at the center of it all is doing nothing but sucking all of the oxygen out of the room, leaving everybody else to choke and strangle.


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  1. Mountain gal January 8, 2018 at 9:37 am #

    Right now I’m just enjoying watching the NYT try to figure out how to embrace Bannon. Until the expose he was the demon seed of course but now that he’s saying what they believe to be true in terms of the stability of Trump etc. they love him for it. But still, he is Bannon. An extreme case of ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend” perhaps. Love watching them squirm. And the fiddler fiddles while Rome burns…….

    • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 10:05 am #

      “And the fiddler fiddles while Rome burns…….”

      That was Nero. Not a nice chap at all. Created his very own Roman candles.

      funtrivia.com/askft/Question113281.html

      • Eoin January 8, 2018 at 1:03 pm #

        ” Fiddling while Rome Burns”

        To occupy oneself with unimportant matters and neglect priorities during a crisis.

        @ Green Alba
        The CFN commentariat is a fairly erudite, culturally aware group of people who often disagree on the silliest of issues. They evince mutual respect as a rule, but rarely do they suffer fools. Your comment meant to enlighten us all about the origin of “fiddling while Rome burns” , combined with the provided juvenile link is , hands down, one of the most shining examples of pedantic twaddle ever witnessed on this comment board. Perhaps you thought you were commenting somewhere closer to home? Really, if you are unable to contribute to the conversation, why not just observe ?
        Your sense of superiority is breathtaking.
        That said, I had to look into the old file cabinet for some ancient survey class notes:
        The source of that phrase is the story that Nero played the fiddle (violin) while Rome burned, during the great fire in AD 64. However, there are two major flaws with the story. #1 , there was no such instrument as the fiddle (violin) in first century Rome. There is no definite date for the invention of the violin, or fiddle, but it certainly wasn’t invented until at least the 16th century. If Nero played anything during the Rome fire, it was probably the lyre.
        # 2 , the story may be completely false and Nero may very well not have neglected his duty at all. Nero died four years later, and we should remember that history is written by the victors. Suetonius recorded that Nero was responsible for the fire and that he watched it from a tower while playing an instrument and singing about the destruction of Troy. Others record this story merely as a rumour.
        Nero was a bizarre character, but that doesn’t make this story true. Scholars differ over interpretations of events surrounding the fire. Rivalries and conflicting accounts, even those in contemporary reports, make the ‘fiddling’ story uncertain.

        • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 1:33 pm #

          “The source of that phrase is the story that Nero played the fiddle
          (violin) while Rome burned, during the great fire in AD 64.
          However, there are two major flaws with the story. #1 , there was
          no such instrument as the fiddle (violin) in first century Rome.
          There is no definite date for the invention of the violin, or fiddle,
          but it certainly wasn’t invented until at least the 16th century. If
          Nero played anything during the Rome fire, it was probably the
          lyre.”

          I think you’ve just beaten me to the Pedantry Award. My comment was lighthearted and I do know it’s not historical.

          But thanks anyway – I’m off to get the sackcloth and ashes as we speak.

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 1:36 pm #

            Most people on here know I joke a bit. Sorry it missed.

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 2:16 pm #

            Actually on rereading your response, I’m thinking of sending it to Pseuds’ Corner 🙂

          • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 5:37 pm #

            Nice response, O’Greeny!

          • outsider January 8, 2018 at 5:48 pm #

            Plus, GA, Mountain gal said “fiddler fiddles while Rome burns” first anyway, so she should get the blame (if there is blame).

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 7:13 pm #

            Least said soonest mended, I think.

          • GeoffZ January 8, 2018 at 10:12 pm #

            Wait…I always heard that Nero was shredding on a Silver Gretsch G6129T!

        • Mountain gal January 9, 2018 at 2:15 am #

          Yes, like some of the responses to my post. Who cares who played the fiddle(if it really was a fiddle) while Rome burned? It’s an expression meant to convey, as you note Eoin, the attention paid to trivial matters while ignoring the significant ones all around us. So for me, the over-the-top attention paid to “will Oprah run”, the Russians, Bannon’s “tell all” book and all the rest ignores the very real significant issues we face. Add to that the focus on the latest disclosure of just who touched whose boobs and other pointless twaddle.

          And how pathetic is it that a country of over 300 million can’t produce credible experienced people to run for President but only TV celebrities? That probably says where our values are though.

        • lsjogren January 9, 2018 at 10:12 am #

          It”s an accepted figure of speech irrespective of how historically accurate it may be.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 10:43 am #

            Anyway, I’m back in my normal casual-casual attire today. The sackcloth was damned itchy and the ashes unflattering 🙂

            I Will Behave Better In Future.

  2. jmar98 January 8, 2018 at 9:44 am #

    People are gathering breath in order to respond to this. Should be good!

    • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 9:47 am #

      Popcorn at the ready…

      • K-Dog January 8, 2018 at 11:48 am #

        From another blog:

        Commenter#1:

        As she accepted the Cecil B DeMille Lifetime Achievement award, Oprah gave a powerful speech about sexual harassment, racial injustice and press freedom

        Commenter21:

        Sure sounded like a nomination acceptance speech to me.

    • cbeard January 8, 2018 at 11:46 am #

      Really. Time for some comeuppance. I think Bannon has a better chance of becoming president. I didn’t see or hear Oprah as my cable has been long since turned off. I watch something from Netflix or from Amazon Prime once in a while. No one but a flaming liberal leftist would vote for Oprah. Or a complete idiot.

      • windward January 9, 2018 at 1:56 am #

        They would be the left equivalent of the ‘morans’ who voted for Trump. There are plenty of them. Now we have evidence of a comparable number on the other side. It looks like we have finally amused ourselves to death.

        Oprah goes around ‘speaking truth to power.’ As if that ever worked. If you want to win, you kick power in the balls, and when it is down you cut off its head. The only thing wrong with that advice is that, more and more, power has ovaries. But the technique still works.

        • ffkling January 9, 2018 at 5:50 pm #

          Oh yeah. The Trump true believers saw him as the ultimate mastermind. They perceived the man’s every move, every word uttered, every breath taken as a masterful move to crush his opponents and implement a plan well beyond the comprehension of mere mortals. The master 4-D chess player, hell 12-D chess player.
          Nowadays, the bright bulbs of this collection of idiots have just shut up, hoping nobody else remembers their Trump boot licking. However, some idiots are still too stupid to see they were duped by a hustler, or they will do the idiot thing of doing anything to save face. These folks will be the loyal indentured servants of those with two brain cells to rub together.
          You remind me of the person who got left with a crappy divorce who cannot stop obsessing over their ex. EVERYTHING in their life is defined by what their ex-did, what their ex is doing, etc.…
          Replying to any criticism of Trump’s stupidity with this tired shit about Hillary, Obama, and crew is how children debate and argue.

          • windward January 10, 2018 at 3:22 am #

            ffkling, I was with you until the last paragraph. Are you referring to me?

      • HARM January 9, 2018 at 2:02 am #

        “No one but a flaming liberal leftist would vote for Oprah. Or a complete idiot.”

        Soooo unlike the “stable geniuses” who voted for the Tangerine Toddler, knowing his well documented history of serial lying, stiffing workers, filing for BK, refusing to release tax returns, dodgy ‘business’ associates, and general know-nothingness, right?

        I don’t think Oprah is particularly qualified to be President per se, but she is intellectually miles above Hair Fuhrer, as JHK (correctly) pointed out, and would undoubtedly be a vast improvement. If she runs, I hope she hands that f***king moron his ass, beats him like a rented mule, and sends him back to reality TV –or even better –deserved ignominy and the ash-heap of failed presidents.

        • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 10:12 am #

          “–or even better –deserved ignominy and the ash-heap of failed presidents.”

          Certainly if he joins the post-presidential lecture-circuit trail, his gigs will be a little different from the usual and the tickets will probably be cheaper. He may even develop a ‘vanity lecturing’ business model where you get in gratis and he gets paid in ego trips.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 11, 2018 at 9:05 am #

            Where you get in gratis? This misreads the man, I’m afraid. It will be Trump University redux, except spun as a fake political movement. He’ll pitch the admission price as contributions to the cause, ramble for a few minutes, and then it’s This Way to the Egress.

      • Mountain gal January 10, 2018 at 2:12 am #

        Flaming liberal leftist= complete idiot. I’d expect many such votes alas.

    • CirclesnCircles January 8, 2018 at 11:57 am #

      No need to gather breath.

      I have long thought Oprah to be both over-rated and more a figment of peoples’ imagination than anything. She can market shtick like nobody’s business but, shtick is smoke and mirrors. (Ask Bernie)

      She built a big business and I tip my hat to her for that success. But, to think there is deep mental prowess and a clean slate, etc.? No.

      Making everyone you associate with sign NDA’s will keep a lot of failures or unflattering doings under wraps. Not impressed.

      • HappyMotorist January 8, 2018 at 12:09 pm #

        I remember years ago she had a guy on her show to teach women about car issues. They had a wheel to show how to loosen the lugnuts and change a tire. She was handed a cross lug wrench, and she looked at it like she had no idea what to do with it. That said a lot about highly educated and connected people who need someone to help them with mundane but critical functions. At least Martha knows how to do stuff.

        • HARM January 9, 2018 at 3:15 am #

          And Trump would know what to do with it? LOL. I doubt Hair Fuhrer would even know what it was for much less deign to actually do manual labor. That’s for the “little people” (who he routinely stiffs and suckers into voting for him).

  3. zekesdad January 8, 2018 at 9:50 am #

    I don’t have anything against Oprah, but do we really need another political naif running this country?

    • DrTomSchmidt January 8, 2018 at 10:04 am #

      Have the political veterans done much better? Carter and Reagan were the last two Presidents who I thought weren’t slimy. We’ve been ruled by Ivy League “intellectuals yet idiots” since, and our culture and politics have degraded.

      • janet January 8, 2018 at 10:34 am #

        The presidency of Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any U.S. president.

        • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 11:11 am #

          The general consensus is that Reagan actually meant well and made course adjustments once he woke up to the need for them, it’s just that he was asleep at the switch so much of the time, especially in his second term. And of course now we know why.

          Of course he also gave free rein to every jackal in the GOP’s vast zoo of opportunistic scavengers, but then again that pretty much goes with being a Republican in the first place.

          • cbeard January 8, 2018 at 11:57 am #

            Reagan always struck me as an interesting fellow, one like Bill Clinton who you might enjoy having a beer and conversation with. They both had that gift of gab and the ability to make someone like them. Reagan’s economic ideas were/are responsible for our monetary woes. As far as Billy boy Clinton goes, well I won’t start. I’m not so easily entertained.

      • Walter B January 8, 2018 at 3:15 pm #

        Actually Doc it is a pretty easy argument to make that the longer a hack is in politics the less able they are to be useful (at least to anybody but those that pay them off and themselves). In ancient days, unless I remember incorrectly, “intellectuals” served only in advisory capacities and not in leadership roles. Real leaders must be multi-talented and have a wide range of knowledge in order to be of service to a nation and it people.

        • Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 4:39 pm #

          to be of service to a nation and [it] people. – Walter

          ===========

          Everybody must be in a great hurry today…so many missing letters.

          • Walter B January 8, 2018 at 5:20 pm #

            Perfection is seriously overrated and the thrill of “battle” is often the cause to err!

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 5:47 pm #

            You may be right, Q. Also, I slept very badly last night and I can definitely feel the difference in my typo rate!

            Just watched a trailer for Newsnight over here, which informed me that the US is ‘abuzz’ with speculation about Oprah throwing her hat in the ring.

            Must go back and watch the footage – to see how ‘abuzz’ you all are.

      • ffkling January 9, 2018 at 5:55 pm #

        @ Dr. Tom Quack

        News flash………..President Carter is the only president since the 1920s not to have NOT engaged the US in perpetual warfare. On top of this accomplishment, Carter is the only president to have negotiated a true and lasting Middle East peace agreement between Israel and her most formidable enemy, Egypt. It’ has been almost 40 years since the Camp David Peace Accord was signed and peace and cooperation remain between the two countries. When Begin and Sadat were asked why Carter succeeded where all other presidents failed, they replied that Carter could be trusted. Carter inherited an economy in shambles. He installed Paul Volker as head of the Fed. Tough decisions were made to break OPEC. Carter succeeded. When he left office, America had reduced its importation of oil from OPEC by 1/3. Unfortunately, he would not receive the credit. Lastly, he was a truly honest, principled, gentleman who addressed the American people as adults and spoke the truth. President Carter, First Lady Rosalyn, and Grandma, Miss. Lillian visited our farm in 1980. Carter invited both Republicans and Democrats out to our barbeque because he was a good man. These were the most sincere, decent. kind people you could imagine. Everybody was so favorably impressed. Look how far we have fallen today.

        Shows what little you know unless you equate slimy with honest sincerity.

        • DrTomSchmidt January 9, 2018 at 10:19 pm #

          Huh? I wrote: “Carter and Reagan were the last two Presidents who I thought weren’t slimy. ”

          Carter and Hoover were our last two engineer presidents. Both honest, as engineers tend to be. Not great liars. Both demonized by aficionados of the subsequent other party President.

          Could Carter get nominated by the Democrats today?

          • Mountain gal January 10, 2018 at 2:25 am #

            It seems to me that to be elected as US President now one has to be very media savvy as well as posses tons of money. We don’t’ have any interest in electing smart thoughtful people as the attention span of the average American is quite short so their attention is lost quickly. Americans are looking for flash and sound bites. Pretty much we’re into tweets. Critical thinking is dead and buried. We don’t know the difference between a persona prepared for TV and one’s genuine nature or character. We like TV and movie stars. So we get Trump and Oprah pretty much; one for each side of the table. Maybe next we’ll get that Duck Dynasty guy and Mama June; we deserve no better.

        • wolfbay January 11, 2018 at 6:56 am #

          I admire Carter. One of his fatal political mistakes was being foolish enough to suggest we can conserve energy as well as “drill baby drill” Turning up the thermostat and wearing a sweater in winter is unacceptable. Most Americans won’t admit we live in a finite world and won’t until reality finally hits them over the head.

  4. GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 10:00 am #

    A very enjoyable post, JHK, thanks. Now I’m going to have to find out what Oprah said, as such glittering gatherings normally only flit past the boundaries of my consciousness. I didn’t even realise it was on.

    • outsider January 8, 2018 at 10:11 am #

      Mr. K has a much stronger stomach that I if he actually watched it.

    • Elrond Hubbard January 8, 2018 at 10:23 am #

      I didn’t watch the show either. Perhaps as a social critic, JHK feels bound to keep up with the zeitgeist whether he finds it terribly interesting or not.

      Never mind the awards, they don’t matter. Here are the box scores from the show as Significant Cultural Moment:

      Memorable Golden Globes moments: Oprah’s power, history-making wins and Seth lets loose
      ‘We realize how much louder and stronger our voices can be when we come together,’ says Natalie Portman

      cbc.ca/news/entertainment/golden-globes-memorable-moments-1.4477210

      “The ladies led the way at an unusually political Golden Globe Awards in Beverly Hills, Calif., Sunday night, as Hollywood’s highest-profile post-Harvey Weinstein awards show so far turned the spotlight largely toward female-focused stories and actors declaring, ‘Time’s up.’ …

      The Power of Oprah

      “[L]eave it to Oprah Winfrey — broadcasting mogul and the Hollywood Foreign Press Association’s first black female Cecil B. DeMille Award-winner — to crystalize this cultural moment into a moving and emotional speech that garnered multiple standing ovations from the audience and accolades across social media.

      “With her signature brand of personal tale-meets-inspirational oratory, Winfrey drew together threads about the American civil rights movement, the current backlash against sexual misconduct as well as the importance of the press in an amped-up speech that reached beyond those in the room to those watching at home.

      A different kind of red carpet couple

      “A host of top actors helped flip the often inane red-carpet gauntlet on its head by turning up accompanied by notable activists working on social justice issues, from Me Too founder Tarana Burke alongside Michelle Williams, to pro tennis player Billie Jean King with Emma Stone.

      “Others — like Salma Hayek and Ashley Judd, Sarah Paulson and Amanda Peet, and America Ferrera and Natalie Portman — chose to attend with a female friend as their ‘date’ for the night.

      “‘We’re used to being the only women in the workplace. We’re used to being one-at-a-time players and we realize how much louder and stronger our voices can be when we come together,’ Portman noted on the red carpet.”

      Hash tag #girlpower, y’all.

      • Ishabaka January 8, 2018 at 10:43 am #

        Hollywood created a fetid swamp of sexual abuse, hid it for years, and now that it has come to light, loudly proclaims its virtue by wearing black dresses, and making “powerful” speeches.

        • Mountain gal January 10, 2018 at 2:28 am #

          Yes, and it would be nice if their black dresses covered them up a little bit more. Saw some pics and some were positively spilling out of the tops of their dresses. Seems to defeat the purpose; wearing black to protest the unwanted sexual advances of men while displaying as much of one’s body as possible on TV? Guess I’m just a hopeless prude…….

      • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 10:46 am #

        You know, it would really explain all this recent sexual harassment nonsense. One thing we know for sure about the network is that they’re always playing the long game. I’ll be really surprised if we see more than one or two white males in either party’s primary in 2020. Could be that they’re now simply unelectable, especially in view of the fact that new harassment charges can be leveled at virtually any of them so easily and apparently credibly.

        • outsider January 8, 2018 at 11:09 am #

          Yeah, they sell their beauty and considerable sex appeal then complain when men gawk at them in their scanty attire, and, perhaps, even have the courage to touch them lightly on the shoulder. And the mass of non-celebrity young women are all too eager to follow them. Then these same women wonder why young men won’t commit and marry them.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 1:31 pm #

            Quite so. An absolutely disastrous model for young girls to follow since, beyond being despicable, it won’t work for them by and large, not any more in any case.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 8, 2018 at 2:20 pm #

            outsider, the picture you paint is a close neighbor to the ever-popular “she was asking for it” meme. Or the car thief who says, “If they didn’t want it stolen, they shouldn’t have left it parked out in public.” It completely obscures the responsibility that exists on the other side of the equation, i.e. the demand side, i.e. the men who create the market for female pulchritude.

          • outsider January 8, 2018 at 6:09 pm #

            Elrond,
            Women are just as culpable in selling themselves (I don’t mean prostitution). They have a very narrow window of years to take advantage of their sex appeal, and those who have the goods would be crazy not to use what Mother Nature gave them. If women don’t want to be objectified, then they should all start wearing the Chador, with only their eyes showing so they can see. I’d be interested to see how they’d like it then.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 1:29 pm #

        Well give up on any idea that she will bring the country together. She is a notorious anti-White racist, raving about how a lot of Whites have to hurry up and die. At least twice when she was in Europe she accused White clerks or store managers of racism, once when the store was closed and wouldn’t open just for her. Another magic Negro high on entitlement in other words.

        • michael January 8, 2018 at 4:14 pm #

          It’s too late for her in any case. The next presidential campaign will be Alexa against Cortana both in holographic form with long legs, big boobs and perfect hips.

          Will be irresistible for both men and women alike.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 11:26 pm #

            It will come to that at some point, probably sooner than we think. Bodies fail, but avatars are forever. As are robots.

        • Walter B January 8, 2018 at 7:16 pm #

          Only some of us have to die JS,….

          youtube.com/watch?v=-1sWsn1Q8lk

          Of course I wonder who is going to choose which of us it will have to be….

        • cj969 January 9, 2018 at 11:15 am #

          If there’s a line for whites to “hurry up and die”, would you please consider jumping to the front of the line?

          • Walter B January 9, 2018 at 12:56 pm #

            How kind of you to suggest that but you are going to have to earn my demise, absolutely everything cannot simply be handed to you don’t you know no matter what Oprah may say to the contrary.

        • Mountain gal January 10, 2018 at 2:33 am #

          Yes Janos, but liberal whites will fall all over her as they did for Obama as she will be a “feel good” look how liberal I am to support a black woman candidate. Have to admit I was taken in by Obama the first time around; not so for his second term. Sort of how so many in the US(and Europe) are positively falling over themselves to admit Muslim refugees as they want to loudly proclaim their liberal creds. That so many of these Muslims want nothing more than the downfall of Western society and any religion but that of Muslims seems to escape their notice.

    • SteveO January 8, 2018 at 10:34 am #

      Same here. I only knew it happened because the babblers on the radio were talking about it.

      • Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 12:02 pm #

        At one point I looked up from my PC monitor to the muted TV in the background and saw the awful visage of 101 year old Kirk Douglas. Whew, the horrors of abnormal longevity.

        • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 12:40 pm #

          Didn’t know he was still alive. Still remember him in that Viking thing with Tony Curtis. Actually, that’s pretty much all I remember him in, although he seemed to be a ‘presence’ at that time just the same.

          • pequiste January 8, 2018 at 2:10 pm #

            “Paths of Glory” and “Spartacus,” two early masterpieces of cinema’s Saint Stanley Kubrick, should be at the top of the list

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 2:40 pm #

            Thanks, Pequiste. Paths of Glory, yes, I remember – on another level from The Vikings. Excellent film (P of G, I mean – opposite of the swashbuckling Vikings).

        • outsider January 8, 2018 at 12:41 pm #

          Q, My wife told me about it, and the worst part was that old, demented Kirk tried to speak.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 1:34 pm #

          It is abnormal. We’re not supposed to “get old” at all, but rather transform into “protectors” in middle age. But the Tree of Life isn’t on this planet so instead we just assume the degenerate trappings of it.

        • ZrCrypDiK January 8, 2018 at 3:56 pm #

          Did you also see how freakishly young Oprah looked?!? Something not quite right there!

          Colbert/Stewart really should have run back in 2012 (or whenever that whuz)

        • SpeedyBB January 8, 2018 at 5:08 pm #

          Did you focus on the ‘Douglas dimple’? Is it still there, among all the leathery withers?

          • Q. Shtik January 9, 2018 at 12:58 am #

            The cleft in the chin seems to be gone.

    • ozone January 8, 2018 at 10:53 am #

      O’Greenie,
      Here’s a link to the speech for you:

      youtube.com/watch?v=ss6qQM054B0

      I have a question for you though:

      If Oprah were to be voted into the office of the Prezdensy (surely a demotion for her), won’t all of our men-type dangly bits* shrivel up an fall off, leaving us with nothing more than a sort of nebulous bump, ala Ken (of Ken & Barbie fame)?

      *(Always liked that expression. 😉 )

      • outsider January 8, 2018 at 11:12 am #

        Well, ozone, most of us have been circumcised, so we’re already half way there anyway.

        • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 11:14 am #

          “Well, ozone, most of us have been circumcised”

          Really?

          • capt spaulding January 8, 2018 at 11:23 am #

            Yup, there’s no getting around that fact.

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 11:33 am #

            Wow. I had no idea. Have just looked on Wiki and you do indeed have a massively high rate compared to the UK.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 1:36 pm #

            Does this change things for you?

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 1:41 pm #

            I have no idea what you mean and no interest in finding out, thanks.

        • outsider January 8, 2018 at 12:13 pm #

          GA,
          Your British men don’t know how lucky they have it. You gave it up after WWII because your NHS quit paying for it. Now your non-Jewish percentage is about 4% while ours is still 55-60%. It used to be 90% only a few decades ago.

          Capt S – No doubt your use of the word “drawback” has a double meaning.

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 12:34 pm #

            My older brother was ‘done’ (1951) – so my mother told me, anyway – something to do with him crying endlessly as a baby and not sleeping. I haven’t the foggiest idea what the connection was. No such problems with my younger brother, so he’s unscathed. Brother no. 1 looks perfectly happy with life and wife just the same!

          • CirclesnCircles January 8, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

            “Your British men don’t know how lucky they have it.” — and perhaps at the expense of the British ladies. The consequences of inadequate hygiene matter plenty.

            So, hhmmm, who should be the “lucky ones”?

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 1:01 pm #

            Circles

            Are you suggesting a basic design fault?

          • CirclesnCircles January 8, 2018 at 2:27 pm #

            GA – Perhaps not a design fault for males but, yes, it could be argued that it’s a design fault as related to intercourse with females.

            Without excessive cleanliness on his part, problems routinely arise. Nature ain’t perfect and humans found a way to ….ahem….’retool’ the situation to adjust for it.

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 2:45 pm #

            Yes, I get the risk (intellectually I mean!). I admit to my question being slightly (very mildly, I promise) facetious, which is perhaps worth a mea culpa. I need to curb my tongue-in-cheek activity – it has brought be low already today!

            Anyway, my numbers are low and my relationships long – not had any problems 🙂

          • SpeedyBB January 8, 2018 at 5:10 pm #

            A Jewish pal, sadly, on circumcision:

            ‘The only way to lose a foreskin is to wear it off.’

          • outsider January 8, 2018 at 6:22 pm #

            Circles,
            You are claiming that men are too lazy or too dumb to clean themselves, a proposition I find ridiculous, as well as an idiotic reason for circumcision. In fact, women have much more to clean down there and men are not yelling for them to get cut.

          • CirclesnCircles January 8, 2018 at 8:20 pm #

            Oh my, ‘outsider’ got triggered. So, how are you in a position to know what percentage of males aren’t too lazy or too dumb to make sure they attain proper hygiene before relations?

            Because, it’s pretty dumb to not realize that increased probabilities exist for acquiring or transmitting many diseases when a foreskin is present, no matter its state of cleanliness. Info for you:

            AIDS – There are plausible explanations based on human biology for how circumcision can decrease the likelihood of female-to-male HIV transmission. (Also in male-to-male)

            HPV – Circumcision is associated with a reduced prevalence of oncogenic types of HPV infection, meaning that a randomly selected circumcised man is less likely to be found infected with cancer-causing types of HPV than an uncircumcised man.

            Other – Studies evaluating the effect of circumcision on the rates of other sexually transmitted infections have generally, found it to be protective. A 2006 meta-analysis found that circumcision was associated with lower rates of syphilis, chancroid and possibly genital herpes.

            Cancer – Circumcision has a protective effect against the risks of penile cancer in men, and cervical cancer in the female sexual partners of heterosexual men.

            Women’s health – A 2017 systematic review found consistent evidence that circumcision was associated with a decreased risk of cervical cancer, cervical dysplasia, HSV-2, chlamydia, and syphilis among women.

            Detail provided above is from here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision

            Soooo, like I was saying……there have historically been practical, health-related reasons for that procedure.

      • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 11:13 am #

        Thanks, Ozone. I’ll look at it.

        Not sure why your question is addressed to me, though. I don’t know as much about Oprah as you all do – we only see her occasionally over here – and I’m not taking the idea of Oprah as Prez all THAT seriously, but I’m not a fan of the gender wars anyway, so I don’t see why having her would shrivel up anyone’s bits. It’s not a zero sum game, is it?

        Not being a fan of the gender wars doesn’t mean I think harrassment of any kind is OK – I just can’t be bothered with the attitude that we have to be at each other’s throats, metaphorically speaking, all the time. We’re all imperfect, whatever side of the divide we’re on.

        Yes, ‘dangly bits’ is a useful and non-partisan expression we can all hopefully use without recrimination -and it lightens the mood, which often benefits from being lightened in such contexts. 🙂

        • ozone January 8, 2018 at 11:31 am #

          “Not sure why your question is addressed to me, though. I don’t know as much about Oprah as you all do – we only see her occasionally over here – and I’m not taking the idea of Oprah as Prez all THAT seriously, but I’m not a fan of the gender wars anyway, so I don’t see why having her would shrivel up anyone’s bits. It’s not a zero sum game, is it?”

          O’Greenie,
          I simply addressed that joke to you as it’s my understanding that you’re of the female-type construction… and I thought it would be a fun jab at misogynists everywhere. (Thinking you’d give an amusing response. Was that wrong? 😀 )

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 11:44 am #

            Nope. Of course not. Sorry, my irony detector was needing a recharge, I think…

            This site can be difficult to negotiate. I’m not popular on it, so I have to be careful 🙁

          • outsider January 8, 2018 at 12:17 pm #

            Ga, You’re popular in my book!

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 12:35 pm #

            Aw, bless 🙂

            Not to worry, Himself will be along soon to put me back in my place.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 1:40 pm #

            Already done – by another. Go back to the Beginning, Mein Frau, back to the top o’ the ‘eap, of the thread that runs so true….

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

            *Meine* frau. Though it was your favourite language.

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

            *Thought*

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 2:14 pm #

            Meine Frau, even.

            More haste, less speed…

      • ozone January 8, 2018 at 11:15 am #

        Ps. I must say that I really despise the pander-y camera shots of the audience that are a hallmark of these spectacles. Why not just focus on the speaker until they’re finished speaking? I guess Hollywhacked feels we need hitting over the head with every reinforcement possible. It’s insulting in its lack of subtlety, *whatever* the platform or meme.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 1:44 pm #

          Being in the audience is a “role” and part of the overall performance. Every actress there – and the men are actresses too – yearn to be “caught” by the camera emoting to the speeches.

          Being a woman is a performance after all. But on a deeper level, we’re all actors out on loan. It all depends who is writing our script, which we scripts we accept, and of course, how well we play it. We’re unlikely to play well a script we don’t like or agree with – not in real life acting that is.

          • michael January 8, 2018 at 3:44 pm #

            I enjoy seeing these degenerate make believes assembled in a heap of insulated self importance.
            Their state of being must be true hell: to pretend to be anything
            in the painful knowledge that you are nothing at all.
            It seems to be unbearable, drug filled corpses witness to the fact.

            Soon enough we will have no need or use for them at all: I like
            software actors, they are already good enough for my taste
            and surely good enough for contemporary films. A queasy feeling must creep into their bones already.

  5. robert magill January 8, 2018 at 10:01 am #

    A desperate, failing culture like the USA that selected Donald Trump to lead it could certainly select Oprah Winfrey, but to what end? I said select rather than elect because we don’t really vote for the president, do we?

    • CirclesnCircles January 8, 2018 at 12:17 pm #

      The odd thing about this website, both JHK and the commenters, is that they so often speak as if American voters had many, many options for Prez in 2016 (and how the heck could they have chosen Trump?) They did not.

      They had a choice between a knowledgeable business guy who understands the horrendous, entrenched corruption in Fed Gov and promised to do something about it…..versus…….perhaps, the MOST corruption-laden, long-time swamp creature OF Wash DC who would continue to generate the garbage.

      Voters wanted someone who would take out the trash. Whether it happens, time will tell. But, it’s clear that the waste management team is now knocking on the door again of our primary swamp creature and the stench is irrefutable.

      Seems like there are some smart people on here so, I’m perplexed why that basic reality seems to elude them.

      • Mountain gal January 10, 2018 at 2:37 am #

        I was hoping Michael Bloomberg would run but alas he did not, probably as a concession to Hilary. Too bad.

  6. DrTomSchmidt January 8, 2018 at 10:01 am #

    What we need more than anything is leadership and accountability. Trump, it seems, holds his subordinates accountable even if he doesn’t always do so for himself. Oprah did the same with several guests who used her show to falsely promote their products.

    JHK has complained for years that no justice department ever prosecuted the criminals behind the housing crisis. Maybe it’s time for a new approach. I’d love to see Oprah put them in the public equivalent of stocks and pillory and exert moral condemnation in the public square.

    It would certainly top the grifting of the Bushes and the Clintons, then end of whose dynasties we have To thank Trump for.

    • SteveO January 8, 2018 at 10:39 am #

      “What we need more than anything is leadership and accountability. Trump, it seems, holds his subordinates accountable even if he doesn’t always do so for himself.”

      Unless of course they have the last name “Trump” or are married to people who’s maiden name is “Trump”.

      • DrTomSchmidt January 8, 2018 at 5:56 pm #

        Yeah, my guess is Ivanka could literally shoot someone on FifthAvenue and he would defend her. Point well taken.

    • Ron Anselmo January 8, 2018 at 12:23 pm #

      Doc,

      The approach should remain, that criminals go to prison, period. Jamie Dimon should be the first one in, regarding the housing crisis. His recent comment (for obvious reasons), that Bitcoin is a “fraud”, was classic. To Mr. Dimon, I say, “It takes one to know one.”

      • DrTomSchmidt January 8, 2018 at 5:59 pm #

        They have enough money to buy good lawyers to get them out of trouble. Some wag once pointed out that morality was more important for the poor than the rich because the rich had resources to get themselves out of trouble.

        I guess what I wrote is my admission that I don’t expect the law to apply to the wealthy or powerful any more. Public shame, by contrast, can still be used against them and may be an effective tool. They can buy off politicians, but I doubt they’d want to face the wrath of Oprah.

        • Ron Anselmo January 9, 2018 at 9:14 am #

          Your expectation is correct. The the law does not apply to the wealthy or powerful anymore. There are endless examples day in and day out. I just don’t understand how people just look the other way. It’s a moral cancer.

          Public shame may not be an effective tool. It doesn’t work on people who have no shame. In other words, sociopaths. Of which Mr. Dimon certainly is one.

          Law is out, public shame is out…guess that leaves a tall tree and a short rope…it may work, being a little more long lasting than the one hour attention span of the typical Oprah follower.

          • DrTomSchmidt January 9, 2018 at 10:27 pm #

            Have you read Cialdini? Useful at getting the wealthy to be persuaded, even sociopaths.

            Public shame works for the Amish, no force needed. Very powerful. It’s worth a try before the ropes come out.

        • Ron Anselmo January 10, 2018 at 11:19 am #

          Doc,

          This is in reply to your comment below (Re: Cialdini). No “Reply” button below it(?). No,

          I haven’t read Cialdini, but will look into it – you’ve never steered me wrong before.

          On the Amish – they have a very strong moral compass, as most people do, to one degree or another. That’s why public shame is effective for them (and most other people).

          The predatory sociopaths, in every fraud, racket & swindle, that run this country have no moral compass. That’s the problem.

          Thanks for the lead on Cialdini. Appreciated.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 1:48 pm #

      She’s a female version of Obama, though yes, far more a self made person. But apparently she supported Weinstein at first. I mean there must be people who made her career possible. Evidently she’s changed her tack relative to him or someone induced her to change it.

      • DrTomSchmidt January 8, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

        Rather like Bill Clinton in that regard. You had to respect his will to power. It wasn’t family connections, unlike Obama or the Bushes, that got him where he got to. Oprah reminds me of that.

        Janos, would you rather be ruled by Hillary or Oprah?

  7. sprawlcapital January 8, 2018 at 10:07 am #

    I watched just a few minute of the Golden Globes last night, the part where the host was–in jest– telling Oprah that she was not qualified to be president. The point being that it was at a similar event a few years ago that Trump was ridiculed; that supposedly being the defining moment that convinced him to run for the presidency.

    I must admit, until last night it had never occurred to me that Oprah Winfrey might be president. We shall see, if we are still around in 2020. She is at least literate.

  8. shotho January 8, 2018 at 10:11 am #

    Sounds like a promotion to me. And how in the world do you put aside skin color, ethnic origin, religious order and gender? What else is left?

    • James Howard Kunstler January 8, 2018 at 10:16 am #

      How about the deep mystery of human personality, you jackass. — JHK

      • Elrond Hubbard January 8, 2018 at 10:50 am #

        Hey Jim, couple of points about today’s post. First of all, you are completely right that Oprah Winfrey (not probably, but certainly) “embodies all that remains of American common culture, and the multitudes adore her for it.” But I question a couple of the lessons you draw from her example.

        First, you write: “She moves in a realm where blackness and whiteness are emphatically irrelevant — which is surely a relief to people of good will who are sick of race-hustling from all quarters.” The second part of this is right, but I think the first part misstates the case. Ask any African-American whether their own race, Oprah’s race, your race, or anyone’s race is “irrelevant” in America, and they would tell you of course not: America has always been a place where race matters. Oprah Winfrey’s achievement has been to forge a role for herself in American culture such that America itself no longer looks the same. Unlike America of yesteryear, today’s America doesn’t only look white. It still sounds white, though, which leads to my second point.

        You write: “Though she has credibly acted plenty of sharecropper roles in the movies, Oprah speaks English beautifully and doesn’t apologize for moving up from the ghetto patois of her rough childhood.” Changing your manner of speaking, and shifting the cultural expectations that go along with it, back and forth between a common public realm and the smaller, provincial realm that you come from is a long-established maneuver. It’s so well-understood that it has a name: code switching. It’s a sign of privilege — i.e., that the rules are different for you than for other people — if code-switching is something you’ve never had to think about; you can simply demand it of others as a prerequisite before you treat them as your equal.

        I’m sure there are lots of white Americans from certain backgrounds who work to change their accents to neutral newscaster-English — that will always be a thing. But there are lots who don’t (I think of Rep. Louie Gohmert), and I seldom if ever hear of them being berated for not measuring up to minimum expectations. It’s a problem when white guy with a thick southern or Texas accent still feels like an American while a black kid from Detroit or Baltimore doesn’t. Neither one may be prepared to be all things to all people, like Oprah, but they are both what America sounds like — not just one of them.

        • Cavepainter January 8, 2018 at 12:42 pm #

          More of your tired preachments obfuscating the truth that Black culture in America has for decades now been on dysfunctional tract regards prospect of success in the US — or any other Westernized nation for that matter. And, on that account, so called ‘white privilege’ is enjoyed by all living in Westernized nations no matter color, ethnicity, etc., etc., etc. because all the advancements in scientific knowledge and theory referred to as modernity is almost exclusively product of Western Culture. ‘Black Lives Matter’ has done more harm to Blacks than Jim Crow laws back when, as has the ‘take a knee’ and the damaging injunctions of ‘Don’t be like Whitey’.

        • Eoin January 8, 2018 at 1:33 pm #

          It’s so well-understood that it has a name: code switching. It’s a sign of privilege — i.e., that the rules are different for you than for other people — if code-switching is something you’ve never had to think about; you can simply demand it of others as a prerequisite before you treat them as your equal.

          @Elrond
          It is also a sign of acculturation. Acculturation, not race , is what is at issue in the United States, perhaps the world.
          Race is a method of division used on the uncritical, and the unthinking; which appears to comprise the bulk of the Democratic party electorate.
          Don’t think so ? I encourage you to spend some time walking around some of the “ghettos” of Toronto, and record your honest impressions; are you observing racial differences, or cultural ones? What you see in Ontario is exacerbated in the States by the economic model.
          In short, no dominant culture is going to allow one that is inferior to get very far, with obviously notable exceptions, and it does not have anything to do with the color of a persons skin; If it did, how does one explain Oprah, or BHO , or James Brown, or the legion of other African Americans or immigrants who distinguished themselves in spite of such formidable segregation?
          Race had nothing to do with it.
          Prediction: There will be no more AA presidents. People are quick to forget that it was the non-white vote that elected BHO, two times- that is over, forever. A change in genitalia and visage will not override the cultural difference that has been on full display since 2008. The dominate culture ( not just white people) in the U.S. will not get fooled again.In the U.S., people are more divided, and alienated than they have been in 50 years. I submit that it is due to the erosion of a common American culture, and language, in addition to as yet unverifiable sources at high levels of government. One protective memory that I keep are the last words of Ma Joad:
          “We the people, we go on forever.”

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 1:54 pm #

            Race has everything to do with Oprah’s success. She’s playing the role of a Black Woman who is Queen of the Universe. Blacks love that kind of thing – sadly enough, many Whites do as well. Queen Latifah does the same in the music world. Bill Cosby did too until the Truth came out. Oprah is a hardened Black racist – and that cannot be hidden. We won’t let it be.

          • CirclesnCircles January 8, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

            I would agree that had Oprah not been Black, come from an impoverished background, been sexually-abused and, yes, not been overweight — the magnitude of success she achieved would not have occurred.

            Contrast to a white, Asian or Latina lady from a middle-class family, no abuse, beautiful and slender/average build. Uhhmm, no — that person could have only achieved a fraction of the success OW has.

            Reality………. (although, cringe, I think that reveals alot about the psyche of American women.)

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 7:12 pm #

            You didn’t capitalize White but you capitalized everything else, including Black. Inner self hatred or “just” a typo or unconscious sin?

          • CirclesnCircles January 8, 2018 at 7:40 pm #

            Fair question. I think the inaccuracy was in capitalizing black.

            Unlike with work-related writings, when typing online article comments, I don’t get too worked up about these things and my punctuation abilities have certainly declined in recent years.

            I almost always capitalize Left and Right when referring to political leanings because I find it easy for people reading quickly not to comprehend correctly otherwise.

            Bottomline: fat, black, female, formerly-poor and sexually-abused Oprah, in fact, later had all of that work to her immense favor. LOL, life can be crazy that way.

        • Walter B January 8, 2018 at 4:18 pm #

          Kind of you to take time off from herding up the wolverines to tell us all about what life is like as a black person in a foreign country. Perhaps that is what Trump’s people were discussing with the Russians, “What is it like to be an American Vlad?”. It is easy to formulate opinions from what we read or what we see on TV, but even in formulating opinions from what we experienced, these remain severely limited in scope. Having grown up in Newark, NJ and then South Plainfield through the ’67 riots, and then working for over four decades in Bayonne, Jersey City and all sorts of other urban environs, I have lived much within black/white/brown integrated society. Ninety percent of what I have personally experienced was all races working and living is pretty much relative harmony and every one of them of any race that worked for a living lived well and peacefully.

          Last year when I visited my daughter and son-in-law who are stationed in Ft. Campbell, Kentucky and live just South in Clarksville, TN, I saw the most amazing situation of cohabitation I have ever seen yet. The miles and miles of single family developments surrounding this base are loaded with mostly military families and are integrated beyond anyone’s wildest imagination. White, black and mixed race families of all types living in small homes in Cul De Sacs and cluster homes, barbequing and hanging out in each other’s yards with the kids playing soccer in the back yard or baseball in the streets. I could not believe it and when I talked to everyone there about it, it was no big deal, simply the way they all lived. Yes the armed forces does tend to make brothers out of all of us, but still, it was a great thing to see.

          Actual life is what it is, not what those who stare at the Boob Tube perceive it to be. You won’t hear me talking about life on Clayoquot Sound you know, it just wouldn’t be right.

          • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 4:25 pm #

            The military gives them common cause and pretty much erases cultural barriers. Safe to say Janos was never in the military, or if he was, he got bounced out pretty damn quickly.

          • Walter B January 8, 2018 at 4:36 pm #

            My remark was directed to Sargent Preston of the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mouth Police) but your point is well taken and damned too few actually serve in the armed forces, especially those who seek the office of Commander in Chief!

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 7:11 pm #

            Countless Whites have been awakened to Black barbarism in the military. As have the Okinowans and Japanese who have suffered terribly from Black GI rapists.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2018 at 7:22 pm #

            Walter B: I’m genuinely glad to learn about the housing situation in and around Ft. Campbell. That said, the military is not the wider society — it is its own world, and I have to imagine it’s a changed one since the U.S. adopted an all-volunteer force. Everyone serving nowadays has elected to be there, which no doubt helps to foster a sense of commitment to a higher set of shared values. This is all to the good. But how sure are you that the racial equality you witnessed reflects the wider society? Maybe those shared higher values have displaced those of the wider society instead.

            Re: the subtext of your comments, namely about me as a Canadian making comments about the U.S.: I think I demonstrate regularly that I’m well-informed enough to have an opinion; and I get to run my mouth how I want. It’s not clear to this day that anglophone Canada deserves to be called a society distinct from the United States. We’re a modest side-branch fortunate enough to have sovereignty in law, but certainly not in culture. Take my opinions for what you think they’re worth.

          • Walter B January 9, 2018 at 7:40 pm #

            And I shall EH – and I do appreciate your intelligent commentaries and viewpoints. After all you are a pretty good egg at least IMHO. Living, working and travelling through so much of the really urban NY/NJ countryside and working with the urban people there, it just seems to me that the crap that they put in the media is not at all representative of what it really is. Ever since dirt bags like Al Sharpton found out that they could profit from racial violence they have created a new industry. They have profited from the misfortunes of racial discontent, but for the majority of us that live and work together, that is NOT how it is for the most part. But then, there is NO profit in peace, is there?

      • Robert White January 8, 2018 at 11:13 am #

        As one that majored in Personality Theory for my Honours B.A. in Experimental Psychology, the mystery of personality is not readily evident to most that don’t find an interest in studying Social Science. Journalists, & writers that are seasoned, understand the relation to creativity with respect to personality, and that’s why they are attuned to that frame of reference. Most others don’t pay much attention to personality because of the unconscious mind, which governs psychological awareness, or what is likely to be brought into conscious awareness.

        RW

        • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 11:37 am #

          Maybe JHK just meant *who were are*, as opposed to what we look like and what religious set-up/ethnicity we were parachuted into by the the accident of birth, rather than anything too esoteric.

          I may be wrong…

        • Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 12:16 pm #

          Huh?

          • Robert White January 8, 2018 at 12:32 pm #

            Google Psychoanlytic Theory, Q. Shtik.

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 12:37 pm #

            HAHA! Sorry, total typo there Q!

            Who we are…

      • sherlockolms January 8, 2018 at 12:44 pm #

        “…Oprah might be capable of squaring the circle of America’s black-white racial quandary, which Mr. Obama could not accomplish…”.
        Really? One question, Mr Kunstler: when, in fact, did Obama even try? And as I remember it, if someone white disagreed with or criticized one of his policies, that person was deemed a racist; and the globalists that brought him to that level of power loved it, and must have planned it that way. How much better for the powers-that-be to have Oprah and Michelle at the top. We freedom-lovers could not only be called racists but also misogynists. WEEEEE!…Something to look forward to.

        • James Howard Kunstler January 8, 2018 at 1:41 pm #

          Sherlock– I did not say he tried. But certainly people expected him to act as a bridge of communication between black and white America… and it turned out he wasn’t. –JHK

          • ..Captain America.. January 9, 2018 at 8:04 pm #

            Bath house Barry was and is a bridge of communication between the COLLECTIVIST NETWORK globalists and the piilaging of middle America, you censoring jackass.

            Sent from the New Republic.

            C
            A

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 2:00 pm #

      It’s a cognitive trick on Whites. MLK talked about not caring about race but all Blacks and their White enablers have done since is talk about race, and legislate to put Blacks above Whites. It’s not working so Whites have to be put down even harder. And of course to give Blacks undue advantages would be unfair to other groups, so THEY all have to be put over Whites as well – even ones that weren’t ever discriminated against since they weren’t here. That is what Affirmative Action was supposed to be about, right? Righting a historical wrong? So how did all these other groups get in on it too?

      A massive scam against Whites. And King would have been for it as well. He didn’t believe his own words, obviously.

  9. Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 10:15 am #

    I think she’ll probably make an exploratory run, but should she turn out to be a credible threat, the inevitable visit will come from some “friendly advisers” speaking for “some powerful people who prefer to remain anonymous” who will explain the realities of being president, after which she’ll either get on board with the program, or more likely, ring the bell and quietly get off at the next stop.

    But should she decide to support Wall St and the MICC, she could indeed be a wonderful spokes-president in the mold of Barry O’Bomber. How about this? An Oprah-Michelle Obama ticket, with none other than Barry himself as the SecState? Now that dog would definitely hunt! It corners the female and blacks votes and pokes TWO sticks in the Clintons’ eyes.

    • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 10:51 am #

      And to add, by adding Barry to a cabinet position it subordinates him to Winfrey and to some extent his wife, so that visual’s a plus (former “most powerful man in the world” now taking orders from an even more powerful black woman); while still bringing him on board for name appeal, policy experience, and “gravitas.” And he’s made no bones about the fact that he still wants to be involved in US policy making, so that’s a win, win all the way around.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 2:16 pm #

        Jim Jones love things like that too. Always the lower above the higher: Black above White and Women above Men. Once when a woman managed to knock out a man (this man of love staged boxing matches), he roared with approval. He was decades ahead of his time. Only now are you people catching up to this Man of Vision. Congratulations, you have the disease in a very pure form.

        Tragically, he was far too far ahead of his times, and the Democrats rejected him. Think of how well he would do now that American is just one big jungle cult! You would have risen high in his Church, the kind of Church you could really “dig”. He would have liked you….

        • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 4:17 pm #

          His church? Fuck that! I’m starting my own!

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 2:04 pm #

      Well it makes sense: she likeable on a superficial level. And let’s face it, that’s where people “live”. All those screaming White female fools will vote for her. Michelle Obama – not so much. She can’t hide her hatred and disdain nearly as well as Oprah can.

      You’ll obviously vote for her – despite her vicious hatred against Whites. What do you care? You like it!

      • Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 4:03 pm #

        Well it makes sense: [she likeable] on a superficial level. – Janos

        ============

        You see, outsider, you’re not the only one. Standard American English is in the process of doing away with the verb “to be.”

        • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 4:21 pm #

          Janos carries a pronounced passive/aggressive streak around with him in that closet of his. You see it when he projects his assumptions on others instead of just dealing with the comment itself.

          But I still think he’s still a good guy way down deep. Now granted, it might take some serious mining equipment and a small army of colored laborers to get at it, but it’s there, somewhere!

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 4:51 pm #

            “But I still think he’s still a good guy way down deep. Now granted, it might take some serious mining equipment and a small army of colored laborers to get at it, but it’s there, somewhere!”

            I think it would take equipment more impressive than that used for fossil ice samples for prehistoric climate records, but if you say so… I did say no-one is irredeemable 🙂

          • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 5:33 pm #

            I’m still trying to mentally picture him. Haven’t quite brought it into focus yet, but I’m getting closer every day!

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 7:25 pm #

            Quite right, Crotch. Orwell said the same thing: the Fascist is really a decent fellow what with his hot water bottle, devotion to motherhood, and concern about his precious bodily fluids. He considers himself holding the Pass against the Barbarians. Orwell doubted that but in fact, we are doing just that. But he did admit that Fascists were capable of cooperating with each other, and that had they won, Western Civilization would have gone on.

            What do you think he would have said of Europe today? Think he would have been pleased? I like him because he obviously loved England with a passion. Think he would have accepted it becoming a colony of Africa and Pakistan? I do not. Hitler saw farther and deeper than almost any. Many who love England have come to see just that. And yes, Hitler loved England as a great Nordic Nation and World Builder. I know that kind of stuff left Orwell cold, but it’s a lot closer than “Londonistan”. I appreciate both men’s views on reality, complimentary I’d say. Big view and the smaller, intimate view. The visions can be reconciled.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 12:52 pm #

            Scratch

            “I’m still trying to mentally picture him. Haven’t quite brought it into focus yet, but I’m getting closer every day!”

            You’re even closer now that you were. Further down Janos says a lady told him he looked like Christopher Wren.

            He doesn’t say at what age, though, and CW lived to 90-ish, so you’ll have to keep refining your mental image till you have more clues. 🙂

        • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 4:49 pm #

          I am obviously more lenient than you, Q. On both occasions I gave the benefit of the doubt and assumed a typo, even for Janos, who is not my best buddy.

  10. akmofo January 8, 2018 at 10:18 am #

    Yes, unless you are billionaire you shouldn’t be qualified for any political office. Just like the founding fathers designed it.

  11. patrickd January 8, 2018 at 10:25 am #

    I think before we start working on our country’s problems we need to stop murdering people in other countries and stealing their gold, natural resources and labor. I don’t know, call me old-fashioned, but I do believe that the people who live in Palestine, Yemen, Afghanistan, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, etc, have the right to live their lives, be happy, and determine their own path in life. I don’t think dropping bombs on families in these countries, and destroying the civilian infrastructure, is an American trait that I can embrace. Murder and theft? Uh, no, it’s not kosher. It needs to stop.

    • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 10:35 am #

      Sadly, that’s the one thing that’s non-negotiable.

    • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 10:43 am #

      Indeed. Comments were made on the last thread, as they have been on other threads, about foreign aid being theft from the American people.

      Just think how much good could have been achieved if the money spent bombing people had been spent *wisely* on civilian projects instead.

      I obviously don’t mean the more nefarious projects, as we have occasionally seen on my side of the Pond, where ‘foreign aid’ has virtually meant vouchers to buy British military kit or grandiose schemes that benefit local kleptocrats rather than ordinary people. But properly managed and monitored by people of goodwill and good character, every American/British penny genuinely spent well would reap rewards for our countries too – for a start it would mean fewer people would feel obliged to escape the places they call home.

      And we know that the most significant factor in reducing overpopulation is the education of women, so go for it and stop finding spurious excuses not to fund them. Everyone benefits, including us.

      • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 10:48 am #

        And yes, I know, Taliban etc. But they’re not everywhere. And if people have schools and hospitals, they’re far less likely to put up with the psychopaths coming in and taking over.

    • ozone January 8, 2018 at 11:51 am #

      patrickd,
      Yeah, I thought the ol’ self-determination thang was paramount in the pantheon of ‘Mer’kin values. Maybe no longer? Dispensing with a truckload of hypocrisy would be a good start to managing the coming contractions.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

      Not kosher? Is that some kind of joke? You do know that our Foreign Policy is largely in the hand of Jews, right? Jews who see America’s interests as identical to those of Israel?

      • Mountain gal January 10, 2018 at 2:43 am #

        You mean all those billions we provide to the Palestinians and to Hamas via Gaza is supported by Jews? Who woulda’ thunk it!

    • SpeedyBB January 11, 2018 at 1:32 am #

      It’s funny, PatrickD, but I get so furious about Libya that I choke up and can’t talk about it. Nothing whatsoever to do with me personally (no dog in fight) but the idea that the highly-imperfect Moammar Khadaffi was targeted because he wanted to set up a pan-African bank, based on Libya’s gold reserves, AND THE NATO PIRATES STOLE HIS FUCKING GOLD, all 170+ tons of it.

      I daresay it did not reside long in Fort Knox (assuming it ever got that far) before it was spirited off to the Middle Kingdom in payment of tribute.

      Some schadenfreude there too I confess – although I wouldn’t be surprised if those three thousand tons of Chinese gold ended up radioactive and unusable. As Auric Goldfinger planned.

      (And now the desperate black African hordes pour into western Europe through a broken Libya, precisely as Khadaffi warned us about.)

  12. outsider January 8, 2018 at 10:33 am #

    If Oprah runs, she might be facing a challenge from another billionaire, Mark Cuban. He hates Trump (though like the Donald is also a reality TV star – on “Shark Tank”) and has made noises about running, but I don’t think he’s selected a party, which would be a good sign not to box himself in. If he goes Democrat, a Winfrey v Cuban race would be fascinating. I don’t see any professional pols in that party who could beat them. Both Biden and Bernie are older than Trump – in other words TOO DAMN OLD.

    And, IF it is true, as Michael Wolff claims, that Trump might be developing Alzheimer’s, I hope he’ll have enough sense left to not run again, IF he survives this term. I still have some respect for Trump for putting himself through this madness, when he could have spent his declining days playing golf on his many golf courses. The man, ill-prepared for the job or not, has been treated unfairly all along, and I’d hate to see a demented old man facing such ridicule in a second term.

    • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 10:38 am #

      Wrong sex, wrong race, and the presidency would actually be a step down for him.

      • hmuller January 8, 2018 at 10:41 am #

        Mark probably isn’t even a real Cuban, the fraud!

      • outsider January 8, 2018 at 11:22 am #

        Scratch, it was a step down for Trump also. Ann Coulter, an early Trump backer who was ridiculed for saying he would win, made that point when she said that Trump was the only candidate in the race whose life would be much worse if he won.

        • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 11:31 am #

          Well, as the Wolff book contends, he never actually planned to win anyway. But unlike Trump, Cuban is at least rational. I doubt he’s stupid enough to get drug into that quagmire, even purely as a brand enhancement strategy. And I doubt anyone after Trump will be able to misrepresent themselves so grossly again, although you just never know these days. Just when you think we’ve plumbed the very bottom of the cesspool, the American people dig a hole and hit another wellspring of shit.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 2:26 pm #

        So no more White Male presidents? I’m awe of how easily and gleefully you accept that! Such reptilian flexibility….

        • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 4:14 pm #

          Not until the men behind the curtain say so at least. This is obviously a well-coordinated full court press now. Hey, when we gonna get together and hammer some brewskies? I’ll bet you’d be a barrel of laughs to party with!

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 7:31 pm #

            One woman at a poetry reading said I was the spitting image of Sir Christopher Wren, the great architect of London. She brought in an old picture and I could see the resemblance. .

            The Celts once ruled much of Europe, being Overlords even over some of the Germans. Originally, they were much like them. But they softened thru easy living and of course they intermarried with their conquests and lost the purity of their racial type.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 10:59 am #

            “But they softened thru easy living and of course they intermarried with their conquests and lost the purity of their racial type.”

            Good for them. As I said in another context, monocultures are vulnerable to disease. In this context, psychological ones, also.

            Idée fixe being one of them.

    • EvelynV January 8, 2018 at 11:39 am #

      I doubt Trump deserves a shred of respect for the reason you cite. He got himself into the predicament because of utter cluelessness about the demands/responsibilities of the position.

      • outsider January 8, 2018 at 12:33 pm #

        Evelyn,
        There were 15 anti-Russia neoconservatives, plus Rand Paul, running against Trump and he handily beat them all. I am thankful for that, though I wish that Rand had caught fire instead of the Donald. The people wanted peace with Russia, but the MIC would have none of that. The tragic part is that Trump could not stand up against the entire apparatus of the Deep State (how could he?), and he’s now become a neocon himself.

        • EvelynV January 8, 2018 at 9:19 pm #

          And of course the worst anti-Russian of then all you didn’t mention, but she came afterwards.

          Of the republicans, Rand would have been my preference too. But for me Bernie was the one.

          I blame Trump on Hillary.

          • Mountain gal January 10, 2018 at 2:48 am #

            Be thankful we didn’t get Bernie. He’s not really who you think he is. He also pals around with some serious white haters. But yes, Trump can be blamed on Hillary as the Dems didn’t run a credible(or likeable) candidate. And Trump can be blamed on the Repubs as they ran a cast of thousands and he was the one who stood out and was the last man standing.

  13. Being There January 8, 2018 at 10:33 am #

    The biggest problem to achieving all this good stuff is the oligarchs who are on a looting expedition of this country in every way. From the destruction of non-stop drilling and all the national parks and coasts and Alaska…..

    They want everything with no regulations or rule of law and the American taxpayer who actually pays taxes has to carry every “accident on their backs”

    They want to smash the social safety net….
    They want to have us pay dearly for the private contractors who must keep making a profit for wall st and the war machine and where is the Twitterer in Chief in this…..maybe he wants to end it all.

    No it’s not the polity at fault. Its the Donor class who nobody sees, but you can see their lobbyists writing all their laws.

    So many things have to change and they’re all going in the wrong direction taking us all over the cliff……

    In 2020 who knows what condition this mess is going to be in….BUT I can tell you they will be boasting about our richest country in the world with Trillionaires on top and those who fell into the maw of their making —the once proud middle class cast into the status of the Precariat…..

  14. hmuller January 8, 2018 at 10:39 am #

    People see in Oprah what they want to see.

    Does anyone see a powerful woman in the broadcasting industry who had a show for 25 years and never exposed the Harvey Weinsteins of her business, never questioned the titans of financial fraud on Wall Street, never challenged the Orwellian deep state surveillance agencies. She kept America in a hypnogogic state with fake news and Jerry Springer style circus bullshit.

    I would never expect her to denounce the divisive identity politics of cultural Marxism – since it’s the water in which she swims. Oprah for President? Please!

    • elysianfield January 8, 2018 at 12:15 pm #

      Muller,
      Well said.

      ” Jerry Springer style circus bullshit”

      “…You get freedom! And you get freedom!…everybody gets….”

      • pequiste January 8, 2018 at 2:22 pm #

        Just add either Jerry Springer or Maury Povich for the Veep position and with that, Ladies and Gentlemen, would be the crowning final achievement of the TeeVee, Edward Bernays and, behind it all as always, the Evil Fuckers.

        I need an emetic just thinking about this nonsense.

        • outsider January 8, 2018 at 3:00 pm #

          Picking Jerry Springer for VP makes more sense. In a former life, when he was a serious person, and not a TV clown who sold his soul for mucho millions, Springer was the democrat boy mayor of Cincinnati. So at least he has experience fucking up a city.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 2:29 pm #

      Yeah she’s acting like she didn’t know. She Knew.

  15. janet January 8, 2018 at 10:40 am #

    I had never considered Oprah. But a ticket like Tulsi Gabbard/Oprah Winfrey would get my vote.

    medium.com/@bonannyc/meet-tulsi-gabbard-future-president-of-the-united-states-111c1936f03d

    • janet January 8, 2018 at 10:43 am #

      Tulsi checks all the boxes:

      “When Hawaii’s 29th BCT was activated for a deployment to Iraq in 2004, I was not on the mandatory deployment roster. I stepped away from my campaign, and volunteered to deploy to Iraq because I knew there was no way I could stay back in beautiful Hawaii and watch my brothers and sisters march off into combat. I knew that some of those soldiers wouldn’t be coming home. I had to stand with them.”
      – Tulsi Gabbard

      • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 11:18 am #

        How much of that was pure optics? She really had no choice if she wanted to remain credible. A better question to ask is what kind of job did she have over there? Running paperwork in an HQ? Very few people in Iraq and even fewer officers ( believe she’s a Capt) actually see anything remotely resembling “combat.”

        • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 11:24 am #

          Medical officer.

          • janet January 8, 2018 at 11:39 am #

            Look up the meaning of volunteer. She served two tours of duty in Iraq … how many men in Congress ducked as their choice.

            Tulsi Gabbard didn’t claim to have bone spurs to get out of going into a combat zone.

            Oprah as vice-president to Gabbard would be able to learn. Tulsi Gabbard is ready to be president now.

          • janet January 8, 2018 at 12:27 pm #

            Medical officer in uniform (or soldier)… in a UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter being shot at … is serving in a combat zone. Medical officers get killed, too. Tulsi Gabbard is a war hero. Oprah Winfrey is not.

          • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 1:17 pm #

            War hero? Did you forget to get your prescriptions filled again?

          • janet January 8, 2018 at 2:30 pm #

            She was decorated for service in a combat zone. Makes her a hero in my book. They don’t give away all those medals in Cracker Jack boxes:

            https://journal-neo.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/tg2-1200×630.jpg

            upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Tulsi-gabbard-promoted-major.jpg/220px-Tulsi-gabba…

          • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 3:11 pm #

            You forget, I’m retired USAF. And yes, indeed they do, “give those medals away in Cracker Jack boxes.” Especially for officers. I’ve written (and reviewed) more medal citations than years you’ve been alive, young numbnut. Medals = promotion points, so guess what? EVERYBODY gets the damn things just to make sure they’re promotable. We once had a Brig Gen (Ramstein’s Vice at the time) come down to Incirlik AB TR to fly one sortie in the back seat of an F16D so that he could nominate himself for another Air Medal Oak Leaf Cluster. Came in early on a Wednesday, flew tourist class over Northern Iraq on Thursday, and was back in Kaiserslautern in time to get hammered on Friday. Great work if you can find it. The dipshit ended up wearing 3 Stars and retired as the USAF IG. Died “tragically” not too long after retiring of something or another.

            af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/105476/lieutenant-general-richard-t-swope/

            What you don’t know would fill volumes janet-bot.

          • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 3:34 pm #

            By the way, Major’s a “gimme” rank. Every Capt that stays in makes Major, especially in the Guard. It appears that she’s just a run of the mill Logistics Officer of some sort, although she’s obviously cultivated some serious political connections in her travels, no doubt in (possibly large) part to her good looks. Funny how that works. Photogenic young women seem to have all the right doors opened for them as if by magic!

            That’s the flip side to all this sexual harassment nonsense that no one (least of all her or others that benefit from it) would ever want to talk about.

        • outsider January 8, 2018 at 11:42 am #

          Why dump on a heroine like Tulsi, Scratch? Especially as an Iraq war veteran, whether she saw combat or not, her anti-war voting record in congress is commendable. Plus she young and good looking, and her poise on TV is outstanding. She had the courage to visit Assad in Syria and defend him, while others in her own party wanted her censured or even removed as a traitor. Trump even had her up to his penthouse during the transition for a chat, but obviously he didn’t listen. After an old pro-war crook like Hillary, the Dems should be looking for a younger, photogenic candidate from the younger generation. We baby boomers have had our turn (Clinton, W, Barry, and the Donald) and have blown it badly.

          • Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 12:33 pm #

            Plus she young and good looking, – outsider

            ==========

            I didn’t know you’re black.

          • outsider January 8, 2018 at 12:51 pm #

            I’m not, Q. And I don’t understand what you’re getting at.

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 1:03 pm #

            I had to read it a couple of times, outsider, but I think it’s the verbless idiom ‘she [ ] young and good looking’.

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 1:13 pm #

            …which I took to be a typo, obviously.

            I’m having a bad typographical day myself. Q must be making me nervous.

          • outsider January 8, 2018 at 1:49 pm #

            I think you nailed it, GA. Thank you. I do appreciate that at least someone, beside you, is reading my comments. It’s good for the site that Q.Shtik is keeping us on our toes.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 2:32 pm #

            Q doesn’t accept the typo excuse. It’s simply a nameless Evil, one aimed at him with the express intent of driving him crazy.

          • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 2:53 pm #

            Q. hovers ominously over us all. He’s a bad man!

          • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 2:54 pm #

            I’m not dumping on her, it’s just that being in the Armed Forces at one time doesn’t automatically make you a hero or heroine.

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 2:58 pm #

            Fortunately I have too much on my plate to take on Q’s mental health as well. Typos are typos – they are named as such for a reason.

            Were it not for their existence, what would the copyeditors do for a living?

            And if the copyeditors were inhumanly unerring what would the proofreaders do for a living?

            And if the typesetters and proofreaders were inhumanly unerring, we would deprive hawk-eyed readers of the pleasure of contacting the reprints team with corrections.

            And yes, I know all these roles will prove to be ephemeral…

            For now, we have to try to keep each other in work.

            “Lord Finchley tried to mend the Electric Light
            Himself. It struck him dead: And serve him right!
            It is the business of the wealthy man
            To give employment to the artisan.”

            HB (I am afraid to include the author’s full name, less Eoin accuse me of patronising present company).

          • Linda January 9, 2018 at 1:07 am #

            I agree Outsider. I would vote for Tulsi if she ran. Oprah, no way.

  16. RussianSoul January 8, 2018 at 10:54 am #

    Hello Sir,
    This is my first comment to your blog and I am writing as this is the first time I am daring to disagree, but it would be great to know your reason, which is though mentioned in your writeup but it would be great to know how when usually you stick to the truth, are giving a chance to wishful thinking.

    USA have many wounds that have remained unhealed for too long, they are festering and rotting and they are infected.

    Truth is something with which you can treat the wounds of USA, so that they can begin true healing.

    I think there is no hope of healing the wounds with Truth.

    • FincaInTheMountains January 8, 2018 at 11:14 am #

      A second Russian soul entering the Kunstler-land! Now we must proclaim ourselves a minority and demand equal rights with the natives!

      As a first step, the Cyrillic alphabet must be enabled ASAP!

    • FincaInTheMountains January 8, 2018 at 11:17 am #

      I hope it is female!

      • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 11:23 am #

        Just as I’ve long hoped that you were sentient. Alas, no.

        • FincaInTheMountains January 8, 2018 at 11:27 am #

          I do sentire you as a pain in the butt, pardon my Russian.

          • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 3:19 pm #

            Touche!

      • K-Dog January 8, 2018 at 11:38 am #

        My most talented dog nose detects fumes of Russian arrogance but no estrogen.

        ‘No hope of healing the wounds with Truth.

        Always the veiled insults with them. I vote ‘authentic Russian here’.

        • FincaInTheMountains January 8, 2018 at 11:41 am #

          How many Russian females have you dated?

          • elysianfield January 8, 2018 at 4:07 pm #

            Finc,
            Do high colonics count as a date?

          • K-Dog January 9, 2018 at 2:05 am #

            I can’t say. I’m a gentleman.

    • Sean Coleman January 8, 2018 at 12:45 pm #

      I have just been reading about Theodosius, Sergius and Serafim, and the starets.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 2:33 pm #

      What are you disagreeing about? Don’t you think you should actually say?

      • RussianSoul January 8, 2018 at 8:49 pm #

        Enjoyed reading all the replies,

        All good Guys! Mr Kunstler like always is very informative.

        This time I felt an overall optimist vibe and how Oprah might (just might) be better than the worst president ever, or anyone else and how her speech was a good speech.

        Made me question are USA-ians still falling for speeches maybe the ones in that golden globe hall but is it also in the clusterfuck nation?

        • ozone January 9, 2018 at 10:15 am #

          Russian Soul,
          “…are USA-ians still falling for speeches maybe the ones in that golden globe hall but is it also in the clusterfuck nation?

          I’d say, yes, Americans are still falling for speeches, and yes, they’re/we’re living in the clusterfuck nation. The one thing we might say definitively is that there’s an awful lot of pretending going on that’s more than counter-productive; it’s positively dangerous, as it keeps us distracted from what’s *really* happening. JHK reminds us of this twice weekly.

  17. Robert White January 8, 2018 at 10:56 am #

    The third world banana republic of the atrophied United States of America is the world laughingstock politically. China is poised to
    overcome USA hegemony in 2018, and as QE Infinity is withdrawn, and more money is printed for tax cuts for the wealthy, the social Marxists will move fully into political power across the USA.

    Jill Stein would be America’s best bet IMHO.

    The Repubs n’ Demo dudes n’ dudettes are defunct.

    RW

    • Billy Hill January 8, 2018 at 9:19 pm #

      Jill Stein?

      Sad all that money spent on “As one that majored in Personality Theory for my Honours B.A. in Experimental Psychology…”

      Yes indeed, Jill Stein versus the Deep State and the MICC.

      Oprah might have a better chance, but not by much.

  18. Walter B January 8, 2018 at 11:03 am #

    In a nation that has absolutely NO leaders of character and ability and has not been able to even offer up any that are even a suitable substitute for one, wondering what will be hurled at us next is anybody’s guess. Oprah is just about as “good” as any. It’s like being caught in an artillery bombardment, one foxhole is just as good as the next and just as likely to take a direct hit or get you through to tomorrow.

    Those of us who are actually IN the political business have understood the absolute fact that elections are nothing more than popularity contests, sorry America so why not Oprah? You delude yourselves into thinking that somehow this magical merriment is how the most adept, the most competent, the “best” candidate is chosen for office. Bullshit! How can America not see that getting elected is probably the only “job” you can get in the country that has absolutely ZERO minimum requirements, no necessary talents, and requires little if any prior experience. And please nobody try to tell me that this IS a minimum age and “supposedly” birth requirements .

    I think that Jim has raised a valid potential here as Oprah is undoubtedly popular, extremely well known and does in fact have the potential to get the woman president hurdle cleared and may even be able to be the first decent black president at the same time. Me, I think that Michelle and Barry are due back next time and I am still praying for an Allen West and Catherine Austin-Ftts team to become a possibility. In the end it does not matter IMHO because as Donald Trump is busy proving, the system is corrupt, the players are corrupt and the result will always be corruption. The only way for it to all be a happy ending is if the American public embraces corruption as a form of government. Oh, wait, they already have.

    • elysianfield January 8, 2018 at 12:24 pm #

      “I think that Jim has raised a valid potential here as Oprah is undoubtedly popular, extremely well known”

      …As was Chuck Barris and Soupy Sales. We are descending deeper into the rabbit hole, and things are becoming “curiouser and curiouser”

      I’m sorry, but this week’s offering, and comments are driving me nuts…and I fear it will be a very short trip.

      • Walter B January 8, 2018 at 1:57 pm #

        A did not mean to imply that it would be a good choice ef, but you must admit that it is certainly possible that the entertainment addicted simpleton in this nation are very well capable of voting her into the job. Yes they ARE that stupid. Electability is the primary concern of those who put the possibles on the stage though they will only put forward individuals that will sell out their fealty to the masters. It is one of the reasons that Trump is not liked by both sides. His fealty is to himself not the Masters.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 3:22 pm #

          So then what is your model for the America 2.0? Or on the macro level, The Next Civilization?

          Obviously, pure Democracy is contraindicated. That was known and explained by Plato 2500 years ago. Voters must be vetted. Only the qualified can be allowed to vote – and that will be a small minority needless to say.

          • elysianfield January 8, 2018 at 3:54 pm #

            Janos and Walter,
            All that you say is true….

          • Walter B January 8, 2018 at 4:29 pm #

            Frankly JS, I do not see an America 2.0. I look to the Deagel Webpage that predicts a huge population drop in America and to me it would appear to be the logical future if you know what I mean.

            deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx

  19. Dumbedup January 8, 2018 at 11:04 am #

    Thus exits the statesman from the modern political arena. There’s no place for it in the iPhone and Twitter era. We may as well elect people based on the nightly ratings.

    • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 11:14 am #

      Good point! Can the first election via Twitter likes be far away?

      • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 3:24 pm #

        Why not? Blacks can’t get to the polling stations just like they can’t get ID’s. Expecting them to is racism. And since they can’t get ID’s then no one has to. That opens the door for millions of illegals voting. Well played, Devil!

        • outsider January 8, 2018 at 7:04 pm #

          Janos,
          I still say that is why Hillary won California by 4 million votes when she lost the other 49 states by 1.5 million. That winds up being 70% of the vote, statistically a near impossibility.

    • Walter B January 8, 2018 at 11:17 am #

      Our local Committeeman that we appointed as Mayor relies on Facebook “likes” which he collects in large numbers for the pictures he posts of himself lighting Christmas trees, giving awards to retiring service dogs, and handing out candy at the Halloween parades. I am dead serious, it works and it will continue to work at every level of politics along with the Line button, R or D. Americans are no longer capable of governing themselves nor do they, period.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 3:26 pm #

        Canine Officers have more rights than you do. Certainly the boys in blue like them better. You’re just a pale two legged. Ever see those “No more hesitation” targets?

        • elysianfield January 8, 2018 at 3:56 pm #

          Four legs good…two legs bad!

        • Walter B January 8, 2018 at 4:31 pm #

          Even the bears have lawyers!

  20. venuspluto67 January 8, 2018 at 11:18 am #

    I can tell you that I’m nowhere near as averse to the idea of voting for Oprah as I was to voting for Hillary!

    • outsider January 8, 2018 at 11:51 am #

      The main thing that concerns me about Oprah is that I’m sure she is pro immigration and probably doesn’t care a lick about the future of whites.

    • elysianfield January 8, 2018 at 3:57 pm #

      “I can tell you that I’m nowhere near as averse to the idea of voting for Oprah as I was to voting for Hillary!”

      True that….

  21. richard McD January 8, 2018 at 11:19 am #

    Hollywood is working overtime to apply lipstick to their salacious history of sexual abuse and power broker excesses. Oprah is a poster child for this effort – she’s the big lipstick. Oprah for president is the next scheme to deflect the public’s eye from their failing industry. Jim’s musings this morning are very disappointing. He’s starting to go off the rails. His prognostications are wearing thin. Time to change the narrative Jim.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 3:29 pm #

      Yes, alas. I’m reminded of his early posts anent Obama. A poor guy who had to buy white tube socks on the cheap, etc.

  22. Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 11:23 am #

    From earlier this morning on the previous thread:

    “But do stop talking about them as if you gave a [toss].” – GreenAlba arguing with Janos

    =============

    I had no idea toss meant “shit” in British slang.

    So I guess one could say “I dashed for the bathroom and barely avoided tossing my pants.”

    • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 11:53 am #

      Not what I’ve ever understood, Q, although I’ve never gone into it too deeply. From another source:

      “It is used colloquially in the UK, and possibly elsewhere, to mean ‘I couldn’t care less.’ It is derived from the act of tossing a coin. If it is thought to be improper, it’s probably because toss-off is a slang word for an act of masturbation.”

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 3:32 pm #

      The love affair continues. Earlier this morning? Previous thread? She’s playing 8th dimensional chess on your mind! Stay true to Janos and the Doctrine of the Eternal Ice.

      • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 4:57 pm #

        My times are different from yours, Janos. Owing to that ‘great big water’ phenomenon that G3 mentioned in relation to Puerto Rico.

        My past is your future…

      • outsider January 8, 2018 at 7:09 pm #

        “Stay true to Janos and the Doctrine of Eternal Ice.” I have no idea what that means, but it has a pleasant ring to it.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 7:43 pm #

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welteislehre

          Our Ancestors grew strong in the Ice and Snow and so shall we. The Sun will be little more than a dim orb soon. Werewolves and Walkers are already coming and we have no Wall. But armed with true doctrine, we shall meet them even as Hunwulf’s Reavers met Bragi’s Wolves upon the field of glory.

          Conan the only one left from his party from Asgard. Bragi asked him, “Tell me you name O Man so I can tell my Brothers in Vanaheim who was the last of Hunwulf’s Reavers to fall”. Conan replied, “Not in Vanaheim, but in Vallhalla you will tell them it was Conan.”

  23. JohnAZ January 8, 2018 at 11:25 am #

    All someone like Oprah has to do is show up and voila, she is heir apparent. The problem with the Dems is that they have no agenda except a MSM led opposition to Trump. Trump won, because the Liberal side had their thirty years of power, Bushes included, and failed. The flyovers were the core of this voting bloc and they gave up on the current paradigm and voted against the politics of Washington, DC. If Oprah wants to challenge Trump, she needs to start talking issues, not racism, gender identity or gender politics all of which divide the country. She has the advantage of not being a Deep Stater. Also the advantage of being Black that succeeded, colorblind, in the American common culture. She makes an outstanding counterpoint to Trump. The moment that she isolates herself as a distinct culture representative, however, she will lose credibility. Trump won because he convinced enough folks that D.C. Is corrupt and needed to be cleaned up. The Deep State has been trying to clobber him including the GOP never Trumpers, unsuccessfully. Trump beat 16 GOP folks and the most rigged political machine in history. Dems will have little success until they figure out how he did it.

    • outsider January 8, 2018 at 11:57 am #

      Without trying to steal Janos’ thunder, Trump’s presidency is probably the last gasp of the White Man. That is why, in spite of his obvious failings, his middle American white base will remain with him no matter what.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 3:39 pm #

        And what a failed instrument he is. He has NEVER explicitly mentioned us as he has Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Navajos, etc. Yet he has never called us “scum” as Bannon did either. And by oblique gestures like retweeting, he has shown some lack of hatred and appreciation, if not love and actual approval. Like starving men, we ate the grass he offered.

        Last gasp? Last chance for peaceful change in any case. And so far I’m unimpressed. But then again, the forces against him are stupendous. I have no idea how sincere he is. He’s above all a political player. Rhetoric that loses has no interest for him.

        • elysianfield January 8, 2018 at 4:00 pm #

          “And what a failed instrument he is. He has NEVER explicitly mentioned us as he has Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Navajos, etc. Yet he has never called us “scum” as Bannon did either. And by oblique gestures like retweeting, he has shown some lack of hatred and appreciation, if not love and actual approval. Like starving men, we ate the grass he offered.

          Janos,
          Your construct has brightened my mood….

  24. K-Dog January 8, 2018 at 11:27 am #

    Our common culture some allege was never fair. For those with talent and the requisite luck and opportunity, success was possible. Oprah is one of these extremely fortunate people who as Nicholas Taleb put it, lives in ‘Extrimistan’. A not so mythical land where a small chance to make it big exists right next to a near certainty of failure. In other words America, the land of a few big winners and bigger losers.

    To be young, a well paid television personality making four times what a privileged white male cis-hetero asshole was pulling down at the time in early eighties America. Combine that with the temperament for hard work, above average smarts and talent, and Oprah’s success was guaranteed. That early $200K a year when doing well and being white was making only $60K a year made all the difference.

    She would be better than Trump. No doubt about that. Oprah would also be the perfect person to kick the can of the dead American Dream down the road a little bit further. Thinking all it takes is hard work dedication and ANYBODY can be successful is the kind of Kool-Aid American presidents must drink. Oprah has her own brand of that particular Kool-Aid flavor and is perfect for the status quo. Libertarian berry I think it is.

    Oprah was a good choice ten years ago and nothing has changed about that when I suggested it back then. Right here in fact. Oprah is a good choice but I fear not a great one. Sadly of those we have none.

    • messianicdruid January 9, 2018 at 10:39 pm #

      If you are going to run Oprah, I will have to promote Dolly Parton of Dollywood. It lived and died, all in one breath.

  25. newworld January 8, 2018 at 11:29 am #

    Could the media proclaim a new era of moderate progressiveness as they did for Obama as the blog author suggests?

    Perhaps, but mainly it depends on at least the appearances of a growing economic pie otherwise the left starts its eating itself as we see now as each group tries to out hysteria one another to climb the ladder of victimhood.

    Anyway I was asked last night if Oprah has any positions, heck no positions are racist. It will be an absolute hoot to see the various victim groups come before the great mother and plead their case, and dare great mother to not patronize them.

    Run Oprah run.

  26. bukowskisghost January 8, 2018 at 11:32 am #

    How pathetic is the synthetic reality of Oprah, she panders as much as Trump does. Okay big “O”, time for you and Gayle to step outside the closet and put Stedman back in there mothballs and all. Oprah pretends mo betta then the Donald.

    • EvelynV January 8, 2018 at 12:43 pm #

      An example of irony is when a person like you uses the word “pathetic”.

    • Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 12:53 pm #

      Oprah pretends mo betta [then] the Donald. – buko

      ============

      Exhibit E

      (I think we’re up to E aren’t we?)

      • elysianfield January 8, 2018 at 4:13 pm #

        Q,
        “Mo Betta” is accepted as colloquial usage in some urban venues.

        • Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 9:57 pm #

          Will someone please explain this to buko and ely? I think I may be skating on thin ice with our host.

  27. volodya January 8, 2018 at 11:32 am #

    Ok, Oprah, hmmm….

    I’ll accept the notion of Oprah buying into a common culture. And yes, she has an impressive track record of business success unscarred, as far as I know, by Trump-style shafting and frauds, not to mention serial bankruptcy.

    Sigh, forgive my skepticism but, from what I see, Oprah fits hand-in-glove with “progressive” snow-flakery and all its attendant victimhood, identity, gender and race hustling.

    I remember old-style lefties that concerned themselves with bread and butter issues. I knew some of them, Europeans who had lived through extreme hardship, partly inflicted by war-time chaos but also by a predatory class system in their own countries. Oprah doesn’t look or sound like one of those old timers.

    I have to wonder how blinkered Oprah is by her association with people on the coasts who despise the wide swathe of the country in the middle. if she’s of that ilk, she won’t be of any benefit to the polity.

    Jugurtha said that Rome was a city up for sale and that its demise would be speedy if it ever found a buyer. Washington is up for sale. That much is obvious, the lousy enrich-the-preposterously-rich tax scheme the latest evidence.

    Will Oprah be the General Maximus enlisted to end the corruption that has crippled Washington? Or will she be the Chief Narcissist, pandering to the narcissism and obsessions of the bi-coastal – cough – “intelligentsia”?

    Right now Washington is selling to multiple buyers. What if there’s a single buyer out there, let’s say in the form of a national capitol, that looks after its own national interest but one that comports itself quietly, that talks reason, that approaches other countries will business propositions and money to invest, that touts prosperity and stability and comity among nations. Does anyone know of such a buyer?

  28. wholy1 January 8, 2018 at 11:39 am #

    Oprah has just about all of it: simple origin, “enhanced melanin blessed”, congeniality, intelligence, mucho dinaro, public presence, super biz creds and . . . FEMALE but . . . NOT a MOTHER, or even significant “mother rearing/child nurturing” experience, from my understanding. How that is even applicable to “governing” an empire that is now sooooo very corrupt, evil and a hegemony, enforced by the likes of al-CIA-da and a brutal military/merc carnage machine, I have no idea. But the fundamental, primary and so very critical ROLE of wo[mb]Men to bear and nurture children to be responsible adults seems to me the most important role to “mankind”. That being said, the Trumpster vs Oprah would be an exciting match – with the usual caveats, of course: big-ass war, collapsed economy, assassination, coup, catastrophic geophysical/bio/chemical/radiological event etc. Eh, noth’n ta worry ’bout, right?

    • outsider January 8, 2018 at 12:04 pm #

      We shouldn’t be so quick to embrace childless, never married Oprah for president. She could be our own childless Angela Merkel – and look what she’s done to Germany!

      • wholy1 January 8, 2018 at 4:12 pm #

        Welcome aboard, “outsider”. Hoo-wah!

  29. Dumbedup January 8, 2018 at 11:43 am #

    Just give it time. The narrative about Oprah will turn dark and sinister very shortly.

    • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 12:11 pm #

      I presume you mean in the media generally, Dumbedup, rather than on this thread. For it to turn sinister on here, it only needs You-Know-Who to turn up. I’m rather hoping he’s on holiday.

      • cbeard January 8, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

        He’s either writhing in fits of laughter or sick and retching uncontrollably. I anticipate his comment.

      • Dumbedup January 8, 2018 at 2:45 pm #

        Both.

        If the Deep State can’t count on her she will be a child molester by nightfall. She’s a black and female Democrat so we know what Janos thinks.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 3:53 pm #

          An insightful comment. The funniest thing about Opie is her relationship to her poor extended family back home. Their beggary was so extreme that she refuses all free contact with them. She couldn’t have made it unless she cut these people off. She may well give them something – she is a well known philanthropist. But it’s thru her handlers. They have no personal access to her.

          I wouldn’t be surprised is she throws her hat in after all this hoopla. The trial balloon is flying high. And she’s been somewhat inactive for some years now, ever since her show ended. By her standards that is. No doubt she still has a thousand things going on.

  30. bukowskisghost January 8, 2018 at 11:56 am #

    Aren’t we a lucky bunch. The democrats are using the awards shows to pretend THEY have the solution, a better more user friendly celebrity in chief

  31. PeteAtomic January 8, 2018 at 12:02 pm #

    Although I think your sentiments are probably generally true there Mr.Jim, I respectfully disagree about who the next executive might be.

    I’d wager it’ll be someone exactly opposite of Trump; a long term, career politician, deeply in debt to the Deep State, well known in the DC establishment, boring, staid, unimaginative & of average intelligence, little machismo or assertiveness.

    In other words, someone who was bought a long time ago, and will be simply an empty suit and mouthpiece for the military/industrial complex.

  32. volodya January 8, 2018 at 12:12 pm #

    Besides what is this Oprah stuff but Hollywood purporting to be moral arbiter. Still. And giving lectures. And everybody’s supposed to listen. They got some kinda chutzpah.

    • pequiste January 8, 2018 at 2:40 pm #

      Yes, it is. That “We Are, and Knowing Better Than Thou” is their stock-in-trade.

      Don’t look too closely as it is a porno much of the time and on rare occasional a snuffer. A lot like Washington D.C. and Wall Street as it happens.

    • Walter B January 9, 2018 at 12:07 am #

      What they got is big balls and no brains. Fortunately for them nether do their fans.

  33. rhys12 January 8, 2018 at 12:35 pm #

    The real problem with America is not who is President or from what party – the problem lies with the people who elect the same representatives to the do – nothing Congress election after election, then complain when the unqualified actors and celebrities they choose for President are unable to turn the country around.

    The obsession with and total reliance on the Federal Government to solve everyone’s’ problems is getting sickening. The President is not God nor can any man fill that role.

  34. Sean Coleman January 8, 2018 at 12:36 pm #

    I heard and read a little about the Wolff book over the week-end. It reminds me of a similar one written by the Observer’s political editor about then-PM Gordon Brown.

    “There was an embarrassing scene at the summer barbecue in the back garden of Number 10 for those who worked there… When one of the secretaries was not typing fast enough for an angrily impatient Prime Minister, he turfed the stunned… girl out of her chair and took over the keyboard himself… Brown’s exhaustion and sense of isolation made his temper even shorter and blacker. Officials became even more apprehensive than ever about delivering unwelcome news for fear of the reaction… On this occasion what the aide had to tell the Prime Minister provoked a more scary response than the stabbing of the pen. Face like thunder, Brown reacted by swinging back an arm and clenching his fist. The aide cowered back… Brown crashed his fist into the back of the passenger seat in front of him… If anything, he seemed to think he could be more abusive to those who were closest to him. He was probably right: they were the most likely to bury the darker truths about his behaviour… Sir Gus O’Donnell became ‘very worried’ about Brown’s treatment of staff at Number 10.”

    Darker truths indeed. Who is this? Caligula? In the Hollywood film Oprah can play the typist.

  35. ftm1776 January 8, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

    Will Oprah divest herself from her business holdings??? Or just more shenanigans?????

    • GreenAlba January 8, 2018 at 12:55 pm #

      *Will’ Oprah divest…?”

      I think we should stick with ‘would’, lest we get ahead of ourselves 🙂

  36. janet January 8, 2018 at 1:01 pm #

    In an interview with CNN, Donald Trump called Oprah Winfrey a “great woman” and said she would be his first choice for a running mate.

    But he did not choose her. Another Trump lie.

    • outsider January 8, 2018 at 1:58 pm #

      Janet,
      Are you so naïve to believe that the old white men who control the GOP would allow that to happen?

  37. Opie January 8, 2018 at 1:10 pm #

    I must admit after reading today’s post that I suspect Jim may be pulling our collective leg.But I’ll play.
    She has a lot of experience giving away other people’s shit yet leaving the impression that it’s from her own largess. That may make her America’s greatest Prez ever.

  38. FincaInTheMountains January 8, 2018 at 1:23 pm #

    An attack by the Flying Monkeys?

    Fire breaks out on roof of Trump Tower

    nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/fire-breaks-trump-tower-roof-article-1.3744249

  39. Jigplate January 8, 2018 at 1:37 pm #

    Ms. Winfrey appears to be a poster child for the American meritocracy, and as such might make a more convincing “Entertainer as president”. However, if she ever ran as a Democrat , she would have to kneel at the altar of the Marxist left who do all the thinking for the Democrats these days. Does anyone remember the Democratic debate where “whats his name” had the temerity to say “All lives matter” ? He disappeared down the rabbit hole of history. The very qualities that make Ms. Winfrey likable across nearly every demographic would disappear as soon as the voting public sees her buy into BLM, cultural appropriation, White privilege, ad nauseam

  40. JustSaying January 8, 2018 at 1:40 pm #

    Yes, she has built an impressive empire from her own hands, but I think after Trump, nobody will ever allow a celebrity near the Oval Office.

  41. Dumbedup January 8, 2018 at 2:34 pm #

    This is unrelated so pardon the semantic diversion.

    I just came from the bank. A national bank of which I have been a customer since 1970 in various iterations. I met my wife there to add her as a joint tenant on an account.

    This is what our common culture has given us. The office we were in looked like an interrogation room. It was cold, no plants, pictures, plaques or any human touch at all. An old wooden desk long past it’s prime in a room about 5 degrees colder than it should be. The bank employee was just as cold and impersonal – although I sensed that she wanted to be warmer and friendlier.

    The exchange reminded me of that scene from “Sophie Scholl: The Final Days” and her interview with the Nazi propogandist. I felt like I was in a government office interviewed by an “official” instead of a bank employee.

    Your ID please
    Do you have any other form of ID?
    Your mother’s maiden name?
    Where were you born?
    Dual citizenship?
    Why do you want to make changes in your account?
    When were you married?
    When did you move?
    Is this your correct address?
    That is not the address we have on file?
    One moment please while we build your profile.
    We cannot complete this until you return with your social security card and driver’s license.

    We are living in the world George Orwell and Aldous Huxley envisioned.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 4:01 pm #

      I much prefer that to banks that treat you like “family”. Cold and impersonal is the reality. The “family” stuff makes my skin crawl. One Japanese guy I had actually believed it – which made me very embarrassed. He actually welcomed me to “the family”. Actual words. The Hispanic woman who had been processing me played along too, but she noted my discomfiture I think.

      But I respect him, sensing he was a real Confucian gentleman in his sincerity, despite his disorientation. His attitude might be very appropriate back in Japan. Trying to project it here seems utterly strange though. I hate it when White Americans do it, because it phony. But at least I don’t find it embarrassing, just disgusting.

      • Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 9:46 pm #

        As we all know, our host reads the comment sections on the days he posts new essays (i.e. Mondays and Fridays) so I am risking it all today as I point out to pequiste that criterion is singular and criteria is plural.

      • Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 9:53 pm #

        I hate it when White Americans do it, because [it] phony. – JS

        ===========

        What is this, a joke?

        • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 11:35 pm #

          You are being gas lamped.

    • ..Captain America.. January 9, 2018 at 9:40 pm #

      Yes, you are, where it’s the future shock of a brave new world in a soylent green tinged old republic, by COLLECTIVIST NETWORK design.

      Sent from the New Republic.
      got-truth.com/

      C
      A

  42. pequiste January 8, 2018 at 3:05 pm #

    The “O” as presidential timber? Hmmmmmm……

    If being a hyper-narcissist is a criteria: Yes! (See “The O Magazine” for details. On each and every cover, and in many ads and editorial copy, pictures of and with “O” throughout.

    If being a megalomaniac is a criteria: Yes! (Somehow, someway this not too talented actress and TeeVee talker parleyed her brand into a regular media empire. Great now she’s a network. The top of the media is a CLOSED SHOP – she did no arrive at her station without the selecting and care and feeding from some extraordinarily powerful media types.)

    – If being beholden to extreaordinarily powerful media types and other “actors” in the realm of power brokers is a criteria: YES! ( No telling what had to be done to get to the top o the pyramid.)

    No need for education (sorry Ron Paul, M.D or Jill Stein, M.D. or even a scurvey lawyer with a J.D.or even a M.B.A. like “W” or The Donald. NOT REQUIRED AT ALL.

    No need for any sort of high-level negotiations skills; knowledge of international affairs or how the money empire works. Trump and Secretary Clinton both had that.

    No, just an outstanding marketing logo and pullenty of name recognition are enough in this the U.S.S.A.’s crepuscular moments.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 4:06 pm #

      Well said. No one makes it alone. Who are the little men behind the curtain who enabled her?

      I’m willing to serve if Tulsi Gabbard needs me. Why not Czar of the Department of Race? This Department could be created to counter any and all Federal entitlement programs, keeping America true to its Constitutional mandate of equality for all.

      • elysianfield January 8, 2018 at 4:32 pm #

        “I’m willing to serve if Tulsi Gabbard needs me. Why not Czar of the Department of Race? This Department could be created to counter any and all Federal entitlement programs, keeping America true to its Constitutional mandate of equality for all.

        Janos,
        Excellent idea! But how about enforcement? You will need an executive arm as an instrument of your policy. I would recommend Captain America, and his New Republic einsatsgrupen of “enablers of wish fulfillment”, along with, of course his shock troops…the sheepdogs.

      • outsider January 8, 2018 at 7:24 pm #

        Janos,
        I’m for Tulsi also as long as she remains anti-war and wants to bring the troops home. But if she does a 180 to win over the War Party, then she would be worse than Trump.

    • Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 5:20 pm #

      As we all know, our host reads the comment sections on the days he posts new essays (i.e. Mondays and Fridays) so I am risking it all today as I point out to pequiste that criterion is singular and criteria is plural.

    • messianicdruid January 9, 2018 at 10:50 pm #

      It reminds me of the old George magazine. Had a picture of gwashington on each cover ( hidden some where ) on purpose.

  43. Catconspiracy January 8, 2018 at 3:39 pm #

    Excuse the profanity, but dafuq did I just read? You JHK who wrote a book on Too Much Magic, can even conceive of elevating the Queen of Every Harebrained Scheme To Come Down The Pike to POTUS? You say you are not promoting this, yet are completely make the case? Seriously have you lost your marbles? This cannot be the real Kunstler writing this. Who are you and what have you done with James Howard Kunstler?

  44. Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 3:43 pm #

    the men who create the market for female pulchritude. – Elrond

    ===============

    I always thought the word pulchritude meant chubby or pleasingly plump but all the dictionaries seem to just say “beautiful.”

    • elysianfield January 8, 2018 at 4:33 pm #

      Q,
      Can we agree on “Reubenesque”?

    • Elrond Hubbard January 8, 2018 at 9:20 pm #

      The word ‘onomatopoeia’ applies to a word that sounds, or feels, like what it means. ‘Pulchritude’ feels like the opposite of what it means. Is there a word for that too?

      • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 9:38 am #

        Elrond

        In my pursuit of linguistic fun, I did some quick research for you.

        I can offer you this…

        quora.com/What-is-an-onomatopoeia-and-what-is-its-opposite

        …which offers me the insight that “Because onomatopoeia are exceptions to the general rule, they don’t really have opposites. Almost every word is the relational antonym of an onomatopoeia.”

        And the author’s final judgement that:

        “A possible opposite could be a word that suggests phonetically
        the opposite to what it means, like “scrumptious”, whose sound
        hardly suggests something “pleasing to the taste, delectable”.

        I would call these words “phonetically heterological”.

        So I think ‘phonetically heterological’, though not very elegant, is what you are going to have to settle for. It lacks both charm and precision (well, it wouldn’t, wouldn’t it?). I don’t think it’s going to catch on, even with those who can spell ‘onomatopoeia’. 🙂

        • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 11:16 am #

          *well, it would, wouldn’t it*.

          Today is looking as bad as yesterday for typos…

        • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2018 at 7:26 pm #

          No, it hardly rrrrolls off the tongue, does it? But thank you for enriching my day. 🙂

  45. Don January 8, 2018 at 4:11 pm #

    Wow, that is the most hopeful article Jim has ever written! I don’t know much about Oprah, but the country sure could do worse than her as president. I would be concerned that if she does represent a sincere challenge to either of the parties’ policies and is likely to run for office, that she could get a mysterious case of cancer, or die in a small plane crash.

    • outsider January 8, 2018 at 7:45 pm #

      Back in the day, Norman Mailer thought that Mohammed Ali would make an excellent president. By refusing the draft, and passing up millions by missing three years of his boxing prime, Ali had some serious anti-war creds. And he would have had many experienced operatives to run the show while he crisscrossed the world to great adulation. It could have been a win-win.

  46. Q. Shtik January 8, 2018 at 4:25 pm #

    They don’t give away all those medals in Cracker Jack boxes: – janet

    ============

    If you see a young “brown bar” (2nd Lt) with a lone ribbon on his left breast and he has never set foot out of the country you can be sure he got it for being a “Participant” as in soccer for five year olds. In my 3 years in the AF I was never even a participant.

    • Ol' Scratch January 8, 2018 at 6:03 pm #

      Medals, like Performance Reports, have long been politicized. When I retired, their was even an “expectation matrix” of sorts being applied to medals and Enlisted Performance Reports (EPRs, 1-5 ratings) that you had damn sure better have adhered to before submitting. They were loosely based on rank, duty title, time in service, length of assignment, and number of deployments during that assignment, so that promotion boards could instantly read between the lines of a person’s bio.

      Ex: Hmm, 12 year E-6 on a three year unaccompanied assignment to Germany, several deployments to the ME, yet he was only awarded an Achievement Medal (1 point) or Commendation Medal (2 points) after getting rather mediocre 5 EPRs with no senior rater endorsement? Dirtbag. On the other hand, here’s a 10 year E-5 on a one year remote to Korea, awarded a Meritorious Service Medal (3 points) with glowing 5 ratings and a senior rater endorsement. Wow!

      Bottom line: you had to know “the code” to decipher it all, as virtually everyone got 5 EPR ratings and some sort of medal when they were reassigned. A 4 rating and no medal meant you were on the separation track if you didn’t pick up the pace. Anything less than a 4 and you almost certainly had separation paperwork in work on your behalf. I wrote exactly one 1 EPR in my career on a young man I soon after accompanied to the NAS Miramar Joint Detention Facility for the crimes of AWOL, auto theft (from a dealer, no less!), and a few other acts of similarly misguided juvenile heroism.

  47. Bruce E January 8, 2018 at 4:40 pm #

    If Trump was the anti-establishment, anti-Clinton candidate of 2016, then someone like Winfrey can be the anti-establishment, anti-Trump candidate of 2020.

    I’m guessing that, if Trump survives longer than through early to mid 2019 and especially if he survives to run for reelection, the political ground will be quite ripe and ready for an anti-establishment, anti-Trump candidate.

    If the DNC grows a brain (that’s a long shot, but not impossible), they will lead with someone who is not only the most anti-Trump candidate they can find, but the most anti-Clinton candidate they can find as well. Sanders may fit that role but will be too old and he’s already shown he just takes his ball and goes home when the DNC is unfair to him. Warren isn’t anti-Clinton enough (she’s still an elder white woman from the upper middle class), and Gillibrand is in many ways just a younger version of HRC, although she could find a way to break out. Neither Gillibrand nor Warren (nor Sanders, for that matter) are anti-establishment enough, however.

    Winfrey certainly has the anti-establishment, anti-Trump, anti-Clinton thing going for her. It could certainly be interesting.

    • outsider January 8, 2018 at 7:51 pm #

      Bruce,
      Don’t forget that Liz Warren is part-Native American – at least so her college application said.

      • janet January 8, 2018 at 8:37 pm #

        Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried, who served as U.S. Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan and was part of the committee that put Warren in a tenure position, said in a written statement that her ethnicity never came up during the process.

        Fried, who donated $250 to Warren’s campaign, told the Republican, a Springfield, Mass., newspaper, in 2012, “This stuff I hear that she was an affirmative action hire, got some kind of a boost, it is so ludicrous and so desperately stupid and ignorant, it just boggles the mind.”

        Asked about Warren’s minority status, Robert H. Mundheim, the dean who hired Warren at the University of Pennsylvania, told the Boston Globe that summer, “‘I don’t think I ever knew that she had those attributes and that would not have made much of a difference.”

        A number of news organizations interviewed dozens of faculty and students from the three law schools where Warren taught, and no evidence emerged that any claim about her ethnic roots played a role in the hiring process.

        • Ol' Scratch January 9, 2018 at 7:45 am #

          Warren’s a policy wonk. She’ll never get traction and would be a disaster if she did. Football analogy: Warren’s a great x’s and o’s gal as an offensive coordinator who would make a terrible head coach. Two entirely different positions. Nobody who tries to take on Wall St and/or the MICC directly will ever get traction. They actually own the place. Elected pols are just renting.

    • Ol' Scratch January 9, 2018 at 7:41 am #

      We seem to have morphed into a cult of personality politically somewhere along the way. Reagan started it for sure, but he was a rank amateur compared to Clinton, Obama, and Trump, while Bush the Lesser was little more than a front man for the Cheney administration, although he grew into the role over eight years. Bush the Greater was an honest to goodness career pol (with deep state connections no less!), which made him unelectable in ’92 without the advantage of Reagan’s coattails. So yeah, I’d make book on the fact that both parties will likely resort to female star power in 2020 and qualifications be damned.

  48. Mike2112 January 8, 2018 at 4:45 pm #

    Oprah would be no different than any other mainstream politician. The chances she stands up for working people by renegotiating horrible free trade agreements and limiting the supply of labor by securing the border are nil.

    She will champion wealthy entertainers and academics and liberal politicians, most of whom are upper class and wealthy white liberals.

    • janet January 8, 2018 at 8:44 pm #

      “I didn’t used to think I was a criminal,” Anna says, vexed. “I was an immigrant like any other.” But perception has a way of being taken for fact. Anna has been called dirty. She has been told she is a “rat.” A “dog.” She has been snarled at by white checkout girls at the grocery, hissing at her to “speak English!” (She does.) At the park with her son, she has seen old men lift their jackets to reveal pistols tucked inside. She has been screamed at while walking down the street, told to get out of the U.S. She has been spit on in front of her children.

      Still, she loves this country.

      There is a saying in Mexico about America. “Everything is better there.” Children are raised hearing this phrase, uttered with ultimate conviction, the way true believers talk about heaven.

      For immigrants, heaven is minimum wage. Heaven is clean water. Heaven is an end to the constant threat of violence. For people like Anna, the heaven bar is pretty darn low, which is why so many immigrants embrace the thankless jobs most native-born Americans refuse to consider. If you can find paradise working in a meatpacking plant or emptying bedpans, imagine what your hell must have looked like.”

      Read more: oprah.com/world/what-its-like-to-be-an-undocumented-immigrant-in-america/all#ixzz53eDJd3Gq

      • K-Dog January 9, 2018 at 2:09 am #

        I started my working career below minimum wage. The whole jobs Americans won’t do is a sympathy ploy.

        • Walter B January 9, 2018 at 11:04 am #

          The whiners are not looking for equal opportunity, what they want is to be coddled, to get free handouts. Those who fight and struggle to get ahead are the ones who make it. This system of our has never coddled those trying to get ahead – it is a food chain that consumes those that cannot cut it. Oprah will make it better as soon as Whitey dies off and I can’t wait. I hope she whacks me first, the coddling bullshit is starting to wear me down.

        • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 1:18 pm #

          I can’t speak for America, K-Dog, but here it is a thing. It’s not so much the money, it’s the kind of work.

          Young Brits most definitely do not want to do back-breaking work picking fruit and vegetables in East Anglia (and yes, I know they may have to one day, if they want to eat!). Eastern Europeans will do it – and damned conscientiously, for long hours. The pay would be the same for both of them, barring the odd bit of illegal chancing by the employers. The result of the dilemma, post-Brexit, will be a combination of increased automation, and strawberries being grown in Poland instead of East Anglia. So fewer (backbreaking) jobs.

          I don’t find the idea of foreign guests doing hard work that the locals think they’re above particularly edifying, but I guess it’s not something they spend their lives doing – just a way of saving money and moving on to something better. And I wouldn’t like to be doing it (not at my age anyway!) so who am I to judge?

  49. Catconspiracy January 8, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

    Maybe Oprah will give everyone in America a free car! Maybe we will find out what really was happening at African Leadership Academy for Girls. Or learn more about her promotion of those nincompoops Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil. Or her promotion of the jejune Law of Atrtraction.

    Maybe we willl experience a daily media circus around characters like James Frey that will make the present entertainment mogul look like an amateur. Come on people. Get serious. This blog is a hot mess if anyone here is taking this proposal seriously. JHK what in the name of all that is good has gotten into you? Full of praise for Oprah Winfrey?Has never done a damn thing for anyone except herself and her bosses. Ask the black community what they think of Oprah.

  50. janet January 8, 2018 at 8:09 pm #

    “keeping America true to its Constitutional mandate of equality for all” —janos

    Janos, might you be confusing the Declaration of Independence with the Constitution? Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution mandates that government provide for the common welfare. It doesn’t say the goal is equality. Neither do the Democrats. The goal is to provide equal opportunity for all, to overcome nepotism (putting members of your family: sons, daughter, etc. into positions of power) and kleptocratic corruption.

  51. janet January 8, 2018 at 8:30 pm #

    “The President is not God nor can any man fill that role.” –rhys12

    Exactly! But a woman (goddess) can!
    🙂

  52. BackRowHeckler January 8, 2018 at 8:56 pm #

    Well, Oprah has the Cat Lady vote sewed up, and Little Jane is in.

    With backing from our betters in Hollywood and Kieth X, DNC vice chair, I don’t see how she can’t be the next Pres!

    brh

  53. BackRowHeckler January 8, 2018 at 9:53 pm #

    Secretary of State — Queen Latifa

    Sec. of Treasury — Gail King

    Defense Secretary — Madonna

    Attorney General — the ‘Sistah’ who co founded Black Lives Matter.

    that’s just for starters. First foreign policy initiative will to be use US Aircraft Carriers to transport entire African continent into the US and sign them up for EBT benefits.

    brh

    • janet January 8, 2018 at 10:13 pm #

      Gayle King says it’s not going to happen, that Oprah will not run. Gail knows Oprah as well as anyone.

      “I would bet my first, second-born and any unborn children to come, that ain’t never happening. Never. I’ll say never on this one. Nevah, N-E-V-A-H. Nevah.” –Gayle King

    • janet January 8, 2018 at 10:35 pm #

      “First foreign policy initiative will to be use US Aircraft Carriers to transport entire African continent into the US and sign them up for EBT benefits.” –brh

      brh, is this what is known as hyperbole? Africa has 1.216 Billion people and they do NOT want to come here. Even if a few came they would not eligible for EBT benefits.

      Africans are entrepreneurs, so they would end up creating jobs for native-born white Americans. Entrepreneurship is higher among immigrants than native-born Americans.

      Immigrants pay more than their fair share of taxes and make vital contributions to the United States. Despite their hard work and the fact that their wages are often low, immigrants are not eligible for food stamps or other basic safety-net services on the same basis as U.S. citizens.

      Food stamps are available only to U.S. citizens and limited categories of lawfully residing immigrants.

      Undocumented immigrants are not, and never have been, eligible for food stamps.

      In 1996, most lawfully residing immigrants were cut from the Food Stamp Program, including many immigrants who had been living and working in the U.S. for several years. Recognizing the severe inequity and harm caused by this policy, Congress enacted two bills (in 1998 and 2002) restoring eligibility for some categories of immigrants.

      However, most lawfully residing adults cannot receive food stamps on the same basis as citizens until they have been in the U.S. in a specified “qualified” immigrant status for five years.

      • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2018 at 10:43 pm #

        Ok then …

        but what about Queen Latifa as Sec of State?

        brh

        • pequiste January 9, 2018 at 12:40 am #

          C’mon BRH – Maxine Waters would be the right choice for that gig.

          And Texas member of the U.S. Congress, Sheila Jackson Lee, would be a natural for U.S. Ambassador to the U.N.

          Don’t forget Rihanna! SHe has just got to get some big responsible job too; I’m thinking Chief of Staff.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 8:29 pm #

            ALL BLACK. ALL FEMALE. What can go wrong?

            Welcome to the Hotel Kalifornia. You can check in, but you can never leave.

    • Dumbedup January 10, 2018 at 4:39 pm #

      Secretary of State – Rex Tillerson (not qualified; only experience is as Exxon CEO)

      Secretary of Treasury – Steven Mnuchin (not qualified; ran a hedge fund and worked for Goldman Sachs)

      Secretary of Defense – Jim Mattis (qualified as a lifelong military man)

      Attorney General – Jeff Sessions (mostly qualified as former US Attorney 25 years ago, US Senator and because he supported the Trump campaign)

      Secretary of Education – Betsy DeVos (not qualified; nominated because of family money and influence)

      Of these the ones actually qualified for the job are Jim Mattis and possibly Jeff Sessions)

  54. tucsonspur January 8, 2018 at 10:16 pm #

    “The country faces enormous problems and predicaments, and the one-man soap opera at the center of it all is doing nothing but sucking all of the oxygen out of the room, leaving everybody else to choke and strangle.” JHK

    Let the Left and all the old political hacks choke and strangle until they’re blue.

    Yeah, she and Stedman Graham will straighten out all our shit, bring us to the promised land.

    Oprah? Why not Prince Akeem of Zamunda for us props and pawns?

  55. BackRowHeckler January 8, 2018 at 10:34 pm #

    Finca, if you are looking in, I’ve been meaning to ask you …

    Seems like the left isn’t too confident the Russia collusion investigation will be yielding any solid results so they’ve shifted gears by getting some doctors to declare President Trump is mentally ill and the 25th amendment needs to be invoked to remove him from office. In Russia, wasn’t this a tactic the party employed to get rid of political opponents, and make them disappear? Was psychiatry misused in the Soviet Union the way the Democrats and their agit/prop dept. (CNN, MSNBC etc) are using it here, right now, in the US? Do you see any similarities?

    As I mentioned before even after Woodrow Wilson suffered a major stroke and could hardly speak and was partially paralyzed, he was allowed to remain President.

    brh

    • janet January 8, 2018 at 10:56 pm #

      “the 25th amendment needs to be invoked to remove him from office.” –brh

      Relax, brh, the 25th amendment is a non-starter. The bar is higher than for impeachment and removal from office. Trump is safe. His biillionaire friends are safe. The swamp is teeming. At least until November.

      • Ol' Scratch January 9, 2018 at 7:48 am #

        Changed your tune janet-bot?

  56. Elrond Hubbard January 8, 2018 at 10:39 pm #

    Achtung! Alles Lookenspeepers!

    youtu.be/HMQkV5cTuoY

    Germans on the rise!

    • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2018 at 10:44 pm #

      Do you have any videos of German girls being raped in train stations by your esteemed refugees?

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2018 at 11:42 pm #

      Many a dark truth is told in jest. The real German people are being replaced as the video celebrates.

      Non sequitir or analogous
      exhttp://marchofthetitans.com/2014/11/10/canadian-indian-ban-on-mixed-race-couples-comes-under-attack/ample.

      Havunosham?

    • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2018 at 1:40 am #

      Remember, remember the May 9, you mother-bleepers!

  57. BuckP January 8, 2018 at 10:44 pm #

    Oprah, who like Trump, is a famous billionaire, bussinessperson and reality-TV star, could probably get elected, if events fell right for her. As a candidate, she would be loved by the lefties as much as Trump was by the righties and as President, she would be hated by the righties as much as Trump is presently hated by the lefties. But why the HELL would she? She has a great life and has the freedom to live anywhere and do whatever she wants. Unlike business and television, government is messy, unruly and moves at the speed of molasses. She would be 66 years old upon being elected and being President ages a person fast. Look at a before and after of Clinton, W or Obama; the contrast in appearance is astounding.
    With the sunset of the GI generation, who believed in strong institutions, our federal government has become dysfunctional. Our elected leaders are beholden to the big money donors who put them in office and not to their constituents. Influence goes to the highest bidder. The two-. party system is there not for our benefit but is there to keep us divided. Fraud reins supreme. Oprah should stay away! Trump should have too, because he was right in saying it really is a swamp.
    “ Those that respect the law and love sausage should watch neither being made.”
    Mark Twain

    • Ol' Scratch January 9, 2018 at 7:55 am #

      I think there’s a concerted effort to eliminate or seriously blur the lines of the traditional right vs left as a political issue and emphasize the cult of personality marketing meme. The Dems have eagerly played along with this for years now anyway, as they’re now virtually indistinguishable from the GOP that they allegedly oppose, campaign rhetoric notwithstanding. We have for all intents and purposes a single united party in DC representing the rich and powerful and their corporate and MICC interests. All the rest is simply marketing hype.

    • ..Captain America.. January 9, 2018 at 9:31 pm #

      “The more laws, the less justice.”
      – Marcus Aurelius

      Sent from the New Republic,

      C
      A

  58. pequiste January 9, 2018 at 12:46 am #

    Oprah would be chomping at the bit to be offered the Democrat Party’s nomination for the presidency; that is up until her initial Zapruder briefing.

    • Ol' Scratch January 9, 2018 at 7:56 am #

      O, indeed!!!

    • BuckP January 9, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

      Good one!
      When the film ends the guy with cigar says:

      ANY QUESTIONS? I didn’t think so

      Above paraphrased from a Bill Hicks routine.

      Bill Hicks talking about the TBSD 6th Floor Assassination Museum
      “…..anyway they have the window set up to look exactly like it did on that day and it’s really accurate, you know, because Oswald’s not in it.”

      Truth-telling geniuses like Bill Hicks, George Carlin and Dick Gregory are really missed and, man, are they needed today!

      • ..Captain America.. January 9, 2018 at 9:33 pm #

        ….don’t forget Lenny Bruce and Sam Kinison!

        Sent from the New Republic.

        C
        A

        • BuckP January 10, 2018 at 6:35 pm #

          For sure! I saw Sam perform many times in the mid 80’s at the Sunset Strip Comedy Store. Bill and Sam were ahead of their time and died way too young!

  59. janet January 9, 2018 at 12:46 am #

    The North Korean Fairy Tale

    Now that North Korea is going to the Winter Olympics, do you think Trump should boycott the Winter Olympics? Why hasn’t the “stable genius” in the White House been able to defeat the North Korean leader who regularly threatens the U.S. and out-bluffs His Lowliness from Queens …

    • Ol' Scratch January 9, 2018 at 7:57 am #

      Too much money on the table.

  60. jloughrey January 9, 2018 at 12:51 am #

    As Congress fiddles and America burns, I’m driving a 20-year-old car and just trying to hang on to what modest little existence I have. If Oprah becomes President, will she give us all a free car, along with a few of her Favorite Things? Americans are so desperate and afraid for their own futures, they would vote for that.

    • elysianfield January 9, 2018 at 12:28 pm #

      J,
      Oprah may be both intelligent and successful in our culture, but I fear her worldview. I wonder if she feels OJ was innocent?

  61. FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2018 at 12:52 am #

    Harry Potter and Finca’s theory of the Western Colored Projects

    My daughter made me watch 4th and 5th installment of Harry Potter series, and the movie struck me as not childish at all.

    It turned out that if not Mrs. Rowling, than the creators of the film tried to describe in an allegorical way the reality of the struggle between the White and Black World Projects, and the picture they painted in DETAILS coincides with my theory.

    I wonder where the Red Project has gone, because without it the global West becomes unstable and falls into a Black World Project, which is actually shown in the last two episodes of “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows”.

    In addition, attention is drawn to the fact that the shooting of events in the film ahead of their counterparts in real life, and this turns these films into a kind of prophecy.

    I must take it on. Urgently!

    • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2018 at 1:12 am #

      One more time: the calling card of the Black Project is the division of people into two distinguished varieties by birth and pejorative attitude towards those who are not of “our” kind.

      Remember Hillary’s now famous “Deplorables”?

      • Ol' Scratch January 9, 2018 at 7:33 am #

        Isn’t that more or less a calling card of all (or at least most) political groups?

  62. KL Cooke January 9, 2018 at 12:57 am #

    “Sargent Preston of the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mouth Police)”

    Ha! How many of us are old enough to remember Sgt. Preston?

    “On King! On you huskies!”

    • BackRowHeckler January 9, 2018 at 3:48 am #

      Sgt. Preston of the Mounties is still aired every so often around these parts. He carries around that Winchester 1895 carbine, a real classic. Its hard to believe that show was filmed in LA at some Republic Studios back lot.

      Those were the days.

      brh

  63. Joe Niederberger January 9, 2018 at 1:03 am #

    Oh Oprah! Will the seas roll back?

    • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2018 at 1:25 am #

      Who is Oprah?

      • K-Dog January 9, 2018 at 2:31 am #

        Consider we are strapped to a gurney and a pendulum swings across our chest dropping a hair lower with each pass. It swings through a slot in the ceiling on the end of a long steel bar. It’s bottom is shaped like a half moon and sharpened to a razors edge. When it swings at us coming from the right Trump pushes it when he is not tweeting. Otherwise the other Republicans swing it.

        Coming from the left Democrats swing it. Currently they are taking turns and Oprah just gave that steel bar one good hard shove and here it comes. One cunt hair lower. Her tits gave a good wiggle when she let it go.

        Eventually it slices us open but before that happens we watch the Republicans and the Democrats swing that bar at us again and again. They play the same game but with different set of elites and a alleged victims throwing their hate into the bar.

        And we can’t change the game. We can’t have a third party who would stop the bar in mid-swing and keep it from dropping lower. We can’t because we are strapped down with thick straps of media leather. We can’t move and that camera on the wall watches all.

        • K-Dog January 9, 2018 at 2:38 am #

          different sets of elites and alleged victims

        • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2018 at 6:54 am #

          However, the prisoner is able to attract rats to him by smearing his bonds with the meat left for him to eat. The rats chew through the straps, and he slips free just before the pendulum can begin to slice into his chest.

          The pendulum is withdrawn into the ceiling, and the walls become red-hot and start to move inwards, forcing him slowly toward the center of the room and the pit. As he loses his last foothold and begins to topple in, he hears a roar of voices and trumpets, the walls retract, and an arm pulls him to safety.

          The French Army has captured the city of Toledo and the Inquisition has fallen into its enemies’ hands!

        • elysianfield January 9, 2018 at 12:31 pm #

          ” Her tits gave a good wiggle when she let it go.”

          All ten of them? You randy old dog…stay away from my leg….

      • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 10:24 am #

        “Who is Oprah”

        I don’t know, Finca, but I hear she is well off and lives in a grand ole Oprah house.

        I’ll get my coat…

  64. FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2018 at 1:35 am #

    Germans on the rise! == Elrond

    Oh, shit! They are, along with their fucking guard dogs!!

    We better beef up our Western border and keep the gun powder dry!

    • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2018 at 7:40 pm #

      Come on now, the whole point of the video is to celebrate Germany playing the good guy for once. But yeah, history suggests that Russia take certain precautions. Just don’t make any feints toward the Fulda Gap.

      Back in the 1990s, I wasn’t well-informed enough to understand the implications of the West’s interventions in the Balkans. I do now, a bit. We never should have extended NATO to the east, either. For what it’s worth: our bad.

      • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2018 at 8:11 pm #

        German artistry in Ukraine deserves a second Nuremberg.

        They could consider all agreements between Kohl and Gorbachev cancelled by their support of Neo Nazis and the genocide of Russians in Eastern Ukraine by the method of artillery shelling of residential districts.

  65. Georges1202 January 9, 2018 at 2:27 am #

    There are 2 phases to a self-inflicted fiasco like the Trump Administration. Once the initial insult is over (hopefully not 8 years of this shit) then there will be a swing back to patch over the damage – not surprising that America Inc. would turn to celebrity and money again – this time gettin’ it right.

  66. pequiste January 9, 2018 at 7:48 am #

    It will be telling: Her Highness, Oprah’s pronouncement on the MOST RAYCISS advertisement from H&M clothing stores with the little Negro child in the “Coolest Monkey In The Jungle” sweatshirt.

    msn.com/en-us/money/companies/handm-apologizes-after-racism-charges-in-monkey-sweatshirt-row/ar-BBI6…

    She will turn this mortal attack on her heritage into her first real strategic operations after declaring war at the Golden Globes; a political campaign of enkulette the likes the world has never seen.

  67. volodya January 9, 2018 at 9:59 am #

    Hollywood enacts a grand moral drama. – JHK

    Grand moral drama? I’m a tetch cynical. Hollywood looks to me like the place where narcissists trade diseases with cum-spattered degenerates.

    So let’s say Oprah gets the Oval Office. What’s the agenda after that? What do the Democrats come to the table with? Nuts, sluts, snowflakes and trannies?

    • FincaInTheMountains January 9, 2018 at 10:36 am #

      They’ll psychoanalyze the shit out of everyone.

      Mandatory daily repentance 3 times a day, on your knees, facing the general direction of the Oprah House.

      If you white or male, triple that.

    • capt spaulding January 9, 2018 at 10:59 am #

      Dr. Phil can be her Vice President.

      • volodya January 9, 2018 at 11:43 am #

        Sure why not and Judge Judy can be attorney general.

  68. volodya January 9, 2018 at 10:22 am #

    Looks like Cliven Bundy got let off. Judge dismissed charges.

  69. volodya January 9, 2018 at 11:19 am #

    I just read that Oprah is an anti-vaxxer. Is it true?

    Anybody that’s been through a polio outbreak is no anti-vaxxer unless they are seriously crazy.

    Anti-vaxxers that are too young to have seen a polio outbreak should really bone up on what happened before the polio vaccine came out, and what happened after the vaccine came out. Nothing like facts and evidence to illuminate an issue.

    And that’s not even talking about shitty diseases like diphtheria….

    • beantownbill. January 9, 2018 at 12:04 pm #

      I was in the original trials in 1954. I was in the group that got the Salk vaccine, not the placebo group. I got a certificate that says “Polio Pioneer”, which I still have somewhere.

      What isn’t mentioned now is that as years went by, some in my control group began developing mild polio-type symptoms; so did some polio survivors. I’ve always thought I don’t walk right. It’s not obvious, but I can tell. Could be after effects of the vaccine.

      I remember listening to the radio in those times. Every daily news broadcast began with ” …… cases of polio were reported today in Massachusetts”.

      • volodya January 9, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

        It’s really tough luck about the after effects in your case. What did the doctors say? Did you raise the issue with them?

        When I was a kid there was constant fear in the summer about swimming because water was thought to be a mode of transmission. I knew kids that got sick with polio. One lived down the street. He eventually got out of bed but couldn’t walk without crutches and leg braces. Went from being a happy and chunky little kid to skinny and sick looking. He died in his teens. I don’t remember what he died from.

        When the vaccine came out everyone I knew ran to get a shot. And low and behold the polio outbreaks died down and stopped I think sometime in the mid-60s. At least I don’t remember any after that time.

        My view is that polio is nothing to mess with. It can cripple and kill. Get the damned shot. At least that’s how I look at it.

        • beantownbill. January 9, 2018 at 2:35 pm #

          I agree about getting the shot. Remember the iron lungs? Yech!

          As I said, my gait isn’t perfect, but it’s not noticeable. Only I know. Since the effect is so slight and never hampered me, I never brought it to the attention of a doctor. I don’t even know if it was the result of the shot.

          • Q. Shtik January 9, 2018 at 4:58 pm #

            A brief article appeared on page one of the Evening Camden Courier Post dated July 29, 1949:

            Collingswood Boy
            Stricken By Polio

            Camden County’s fifth polio
            case of the year was announced
            yesterday at Municipal hospital.
            The victim is 8-year-old Q. Shtik,
            1104 Merrick Ave…etc. etc

            Several weeks later I walked feebly from the hospital with my parents holding me up on either side. Not long after I had fully recovered.

          • elysianfield January 9, 2018 at 6:42 pm #

            “Several weeks later I walked feebly from the hospital with my parents ”

            Q,

            And 70 years later you are again enfeebled…Maybe Oprah was right.

    • janet January 9, 2018 at 12:04 pm #

      Get it together, volodya. Your posts are contradictory. Now you are suddenly concerned about those you call “nuts, sluts, snowflakes and trannies” who may be victims of a falsely alleged anti-vaxxer?

      Vaccines You Need to Get Again – Oprah.com

      Aug 1, 2017 – The vaccine is still the best defense we have against this highly contagious respiratory disease, which can cause coughing fits violent enough to crack a rib. Pertussis is especially dangerous for babies too young to receive the shot: About half of infected infants under a year old need to be hospitalized.

      oprah.com/health_wellness/vaccines-you-need-to-get-again/all

  70. volodya January 9, 2018 at 11:23 am #

    The people that stand up straight and tall and say stuff like “you’re entitled to your own opinion but you’re not entitled to you own facts”.

    Then these people talk about “your truth”. WTF???

    • Sean Coleman January 9, 2018 at 11:53 am #

      They are obsessed with Trump’s fake news, especially about his inauguration, yet fail to see the beam in their own eye about the systematic fake news of the MSM.

      I don’t think I agree with you about the vaccinations. I have in mind measles rather than polio. The Andrew Wakefield story is interesting, even (if you believe him) sensational. I think I do agree with him. One of the most astonishing parts of it was the appeal by Professor John Walker-Smith, the world authority in his field who led Wakefield’s team, against being struck off by the General Medical Council. Judges are restrained in their language but it demolished the GMC’s reputation for competence and fairness.

      • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 12:35 pm #

        From the judgement you cite, SC:

        “The GMC said reforms to disciplinary hearings were being considered.

        Chief executive Niall Dickson added: “Today’s ruling does not however reopen the debate about the MMR vaccine and autism.

        “As Mr Justice Mitting observed in his judgement, ‘There is now no respectable body of opinion which supports (Dr Wakefield’s) hypothesis, that MMR vaccine and autism/enterocolitis are causally linked’.”

        Doctors mostly hate the GMC (my other half does) but science is science. And anti-vaxxers cause unnecessary deaths.

        Vaccination is the single most significant benefit of modern medicine. Many other ‘benefits’ require inverted commas, as many experienced but disillusioned doctors will tell you.

        • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 12:35 pm #

          bbc.co.uk/news/health-17283751

        • Sean Coleman January 9, 2018 at 1:09 pm #

          GA

          I thought we had agreed to ignore each other’s posts. Please don’t say it ain’t so because I would have to take you up on literally everything you write here. But now I’m here, the put-down you took about Nero fiddling was priceless.

          The judgment was in the Guardian. Wakefield says that only one newspaper carried the story so I presume that that is it. From memory it said that the GMC had used ‘wrong judgement’ or ‘faulty judgement’ and had failed to take into account the prof’s expert advice. In other words, they ignored the facts that didn’t suit them and simply came up with the verdict they wanted. It does not get much worse than that.

          Wakefield says that 90% of the prof’s case applies to him and that seems reasonable to me. As to why he doesn’t try to clear his own name, I think the reason is pretty obvious.

          I wonder if the judge really did say what Mr Dickson quotes him as having said. I assume so, but really nothing can surprise me any more. (You have his comment in your supposed direct quote from the judgement. I don’t remember Dickson’s remark when I was reading it.)

          A number of vaccines were withdrawn from the market because of serious safety concerns. Experts admit (once they have been forced into a corner and the admission forced out of them) that vaccination carries risks, sometimes with serious results. It is also argued that improvements in public health have been the decisive factor in reducing the incidence of measles and other minor diseases. (Yes, measles is not that serious – before you start.)

          I am no expert in the field but I have come across a few medically qualified voices who have serious misgivings about vaccination programmes. In this respect it is bit like the mythical 97% consensus in AGW. There is no point saying that sceptics are denying science if science is not itself agreed.

          Are you sure you want to start this up again?

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 1:29 pm #

            “Experts admit (once they have been forced into a corner
            and the admission forced out of them) that vaccination
            carries risks, sometimes with serious results. It is also
            argued that improvements in public health have been the
            decisive factor in reducing the incidence of measles and
            other minor diseases. (Yes, measles is not that serious –
            before you start.)”

            No-one has ever denied that some vaccinations pose risks. They never outweigh the overall risk to a population of non-vaccination.

            And we are still left with Mr Justice Mitting’s observation that “There is now no respectable body of opinion which supports (Dr Wakefield’s) hypothesis, that MMR vaccine and autism/enterocolitis are causally linked.”

            This is not the Guardian:

            who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs286/en/

            *In 2016, there were 89 780 measles deaths globally – marking the first year measles deaths have fallen below 100 000 per year.”

            I suppose it’s not serious if it’s not your child.

            “I am no expert in the field.”

            Thanks for that.

            But, OK, I agree to ignore your posts.

          • Sean Coleman January 9, 2018 at 2:56 pm #

            “They never outweigh the overall risk to a population”

            How do you know?

            Mitting: there is no respectable body supporting an autism link.

            I take his word for it, at least at the time of the judgement, and probably still now, but I bet there are plenty of doctors with serious doubts. Again the comparison with AGW is probably valid. I don’t think there are many respectable scientific organizations which deny AGW but there are many scientists prepared to stick their necks out to do so. So just think how many individual scientists also agree but are keeping their heads down. How many actors think this MeToo campaign is dangerous nonsense but keep quiet about it? How would they be received if they were to say something.

            A few months ago a conservative radio personality, George Hook, lost his job because he wondered out loud on air if it was wise for girls to go out, get drunk and sleep with complete strangers. Sunday Independent journalist Eilís O’Hanlon said that when she heard this her jaw hit the ground. She also said that nobody of standing had defended Hook’s views. Like the judge she was correct, but a great many ordinary people did and for sure much respectable opinion was keeping the head down.

            “I suppose it’s not serious if it’s not your child”

            My son is going on 17 and this issue was prominent in the news when he was born. He had severe eczema and later developed asthma (so in Wakefield’s view at risk) so we thought it wise not to let him have the MMR.

            Your quoted statistics (like all statistics) are suspect.

            “‘I am no expert in the field.’ Thanks for that.”

            You are welcome, but neither are you, even if you are married to a doctor.

            The vaccination issue fits into the fake news/ witch hunt scenario very well. It isn’t typical as some of the anti-vac. crowd at least appear to share some of the characteristics. I came across a Danish MP on a video about postmodernism (he was rightly arguing against it) who described Wakefield as the biggest trickster of all time. This is clearly absurd but the embodiment of evil motif appears in the bien pensant (or as the French say rien pensant) media in the guise of Trump, Putin and Weinstein.

            “I agree to ignore your posts”

            You know it makes sense!

          • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 3:05 pm #

            Does Alba relate to herself as a statistic? An average? Or does let her children be treated as such? Probably not. Most Leftists, no matter how fanatical, have a good dose of commonsense when it comes to their own lives. Thus even as they shout the Party Line, they’ll take their kids out of public schools when the number of Blacks or Browns increase. Or move out of a darkening neighborhood.

            As for Vaccination, I fear both sides have good points. Clearly many lives have been destroyed by vaccination, turning the kids into autistics. And equally clear, many lives have been saved. I’d ask have vaccines changed, as in more mercury being added. Early vaccines didn’t seem to cause such destruction: the rate of autism has exploded in the last few decades.

            As it stands, many parents will wisely do almost anything to avoid subjecting their children to the risks of the MMR shot.

          • GreenAlba January 10, 2018 at 7:30 am #

            Janos

            “Does Alba relate to herself as a statistic? An average? Or does let her children be treated as such?”

            When I made decisions like that, it involved individual risk assessment, based on scientific evidence. Given that neither of my children had any pre-existing condition that vaccination would affect, it was a no-brainer. Except for a person with no brain – or one filled with silly things discovered on silly websites where silly people congregate (i.e. not qualified and experienced Immunologists).

            “Clearly many lives have been destroyed by vaccination, turning the kids into autistics.”

            B*ll*cks. And inexcusable, ignorant b*ll*cks at that. Sorry that’s rather ruder than [citation needed] but sometimes you just have to go straight for the succinct Middle English. Public health interests demand it.

            As I offered earlier, but you clearly didn’t read:

            forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2015/02/01/anti-vaccine…

            “As it stands, many parents will wisely do almost anything to avoid subjecting their children to the risks of the MMR shot.”

            Many parents are bizarrely unaware that just having a child doesn’t confer any scientific knowledge whatsoever on you, even if combined with the kind of self-indulgent internet sleuthing activities enjoyed by the gent above who started this ‘discussion’.

            His contributions on the subject, like yours, have been *priceless*. Yes, that’s the word – *priceless*. If you don’t like that word, we have others.

          • Sean Coleman January 10, 2018 at 11:52 am #

            Janos

            Is GA referring to little ol’ me? Does this constitute indirect communication and thereby break the terms of the ceasefire? It was naughty of me to say it was priceless but I can’t do anything about it now. I have that effect on people.

            Hitchens was the first to engage me on this topic.

            hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2013/04/some-reflections-on-measles-and-the-mmr-.html

            That’s where I first came across improved health and sanitation as being important in the control of measles. I had quite forgotten the passage where he says he was targeted by a hoax letter writer purported to be from the mother of a child whose serious illness she blamed Hitchens for. As I keep saying, deceit is a constant element when it comes to maintaining the fantasy.

            I bought and read Wakefield’s book, In Callous Disregard, taken from the wording of the GMC’s sentence of excommunication, as I recall. He is by all appearances a highly educated and articulate scientist and a dedicated physician. He has also been embittered by his extraordinary treatment, which I don’t blame him for. He points the finger at the pharma companies, surely with some justification. As you know, I think there is a deeper psychological dynamic. Deeper also in the sense of being unconscious and stupid.

            The legend around Wakefield is a good example of this stupidity. According to it, he is supposed to have deliberately undermined the MMR so that he could clean up with his own patented cure. And to have subjected children to wholly unnecessary and unpleasant treatments because he was some kind of evil scientist who used them without mercy. (Ellrond once told me that, while he is not a believer, he could sympathize with those opposing vaccination being plunged into eternal hell-fire. Curious behaviour, when you consider it.)

            Wakefield’s story is intricate and demanding. The shades of meaning surrounding medical ethics are not easy to take in, as the Walker-Smith judgment shows. If medical research is unethical then why is it there? You have to follow the twisted chronology of memos, approvals, Child A, Child B, Child C, more memos, more approvals, interventions from up the ladder, letters to the Lancet, letters from the Lancet, more interventions, more letters to and from the Lancet, meetings with the editor of the Lancet (this bit is interesting) and so on and so forth.

            A central criticism in the judgment in W-S’s successful appeal is that the GMC started from a position of not believing him. They also used superficial and inadequate reasoning, drew ‘wrong conclusions’ and didn’t listen to any of the Prof’s expert evidence that challenged their own. So odd, so familiar.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 11, 2018 at 9:58 am #

            S.C.: “Ellrond once told me that, while he is not a believer, he could sympathize with those opposing vaccination being plunged into eternal hell-fire. Curious behaviour, when you consider it.”

            Here is what I previously wrote: “As a general matter, vaccines are safe and effective, including the MMR vaccine. Every one of us who hasn’t been killed or disfigured by e.g. smallpox, including all generations to come thanks to its eradication through vaccination, owes the scientific community an unpayable debt. And if there is a hell, Andrew Wakefield ought to pray that God’s mercy is all it’s cracked up to be, because he has a lot to answer for.”

            As you can read, I said that subjunctively: *if* there is a hell. It’s true that I don’t personally think there is. What’s more, if I’m against torture, which I am, then I ought to be infinitely opposed to eternal and inescapable torture, aka ‘hell-fire’, which I also am.

            If the religion I was taught as a youngster is true, that doesn’t leave me a lot of options. Aquinas wrote: “In order that the happiness of the saints may be more delightful to them and that they may render more copious thanks to God for it, they are allowed to see perfectly the sufferings of the damned.” So not only do the damned suffer eternal torture, but heaven above is filled with the gloating of the saved. With this being the vision of the universe promoted in so many pulpits, I’m surprised more people don’t do as I did and just chuck it altogether.

            Though I dunno, maybe it is for real. In which case, maybe the Unholy Consult has a point after all.

          • Sean Coleman January 11, 2018 at 11:46 am #

            Elrond

            My memory is pretty good so. Is the phrase “if there is a hell” in the subjunctive? Wouldn’t that be “if there were a hell”?

            If Q sees this I have a different question. Has he seen the word ‘withal’ used in recent years? I thought I did but I cannot remember where. I came across it recently in Bleak House though.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 11, 2018 at 11:51 am #

            Counter-factually, then.

    • elysianfield January 9, 2018 at 6:47 pm #

      ” you’re not entitled to you own facts”.”

      Volodya,
      Well, then, I guess that first person accounts are not entitled…I, however, would believe my God Damned Lying Eyes over the written page, and so should we all.

  71. sharonsj January 9, 2018 at 11:32 am #

    This country does not need another celebrity or the uber rich telling the rest of us peons how to run the government. A variation on this essay has appeared on most websites and you need to read the comments there, most of which echo my sentiments.

    It also shows just how stupid the Democrats have become.

  72. Sean Coleman January 9, 2018 at 11:43 am #

    I saw Oprah on the Icelandic news this morning. It was the Golden Globes! How best to describe the scene? I’ll settle for unsettling. Hilarious definitely, just like Meryl a year ago.

    “I see a new dawn on the horizon.” Where have I heard this before?

    Another news broadcast provided another sentence, something about your personal truth being your strongest weapon, or something or other about ‘power’.

    I had been wondering what Oprah’s political views were but this saved me the trouble of searching.

    These ladies’ ‘personal truths’ amount to a delicious, self-dramatizing knowledge that they have the power to ruin any man’s career who ever looked sideways at them. There is nothing presidential about joining a witch hunt.

    I have seen nothing in the whole sorry ‘me too’ affair but lies and trivia.

    As for the Wolff revelations see my comment above about the ‘dark depths’ of Gordon Brown.

  73. janet January 9, 2018 at 12:10 pm #

    “something about your personal truth being your strongest weapon, or something or other about ‘power’ –Sean Coleman

    Sean, Oprah is speaking about a power many men do not understand. Kind of like Stalin asking how many divisions the Pope has… clueless men.

    • Sean Coleman January 9, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

      Janet

      Is this ‘power’ just deceit?

      Leaving aside the trivial, how many of these allegations are credible? Read Ambra Battilana’s story in the NYT (For Weinstein A Brush With The Police, Then No Charges) and see if you can keep a straight face.

      The whole thing is childish, a Children’s Crusade. First the self-congratulatory ‘Resistance’, now smug charades dressed in black.

    • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 3:01 pm #

      Janet

      You’re wasting your time. I will read no more of Mr Coleman’s posts, and not only because he has advised it, but I will allow myself this word of advice.

      Mr Coleman has a dual modus operandi. It consists of (a) haughtily (and I do mean haughtily) dismissing any experience he has not shared, and (b) declaring loudly to the world ‘what a brave maverick I am in my research.’ Curiously unpublished.

      I have ignored his previous recent comments. I don’t care what he thinks about Harvey Weinstein. I don’t even care that much about his bizarre crusade to rehabilitate Jimmy Savile.

      But I couldn’t let the vaccination one go because views like that are dangerous. There have been epidemics following anti-vaxxer nonsense in the press. When herd immunity is lowered because of these people, there are consequences.

      forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2015/02/01/anti-vaccine-movement-causes-worst-measles-epidemic-in-20…

      The biography of the guy who wrote that article is available as a drop-down. Have a look and see who you think you should believe.

      SC doesn’t even know that people die of measles.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 3:08 pm #

        You do the same thing anent Muslim rape. Just like the see no evil, hear no evil, smell no evil, coolest monk in the jungle.

        • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 3:20 pm #

          After the Whataboutery Award of the Year as well, I see.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 3:35 pm #

            In other words, Irish Culture will be enriched by the addition of millions of Nigerians. All European Cultures are just horrible mono-cultures. Everyone looking the same is the Left Speak for Diversity. One is reminded of Orwell’s War is Peace and Freedom is Slavery.

            Japan needs enrichment too. They’re far too happy and prosperous as they are. Nothing that a few million Muslims can’t fix though, eh Greenie? The Tribe hasn’t forgotten whose side they were on last time. But of course they’ll be coming for the Chinese and Koreans too in time.

            What did the Celtic sage say of the Romans? You make a desert and call it Peace. Paraphrasing, You create a Mono-Color and call it a Rainbow. A Global Uniformity and call it Diversity. Do you realize it and not care? Or are you conflating the intermediary stages with the final result? In any case, the Lords of Salem know the difference and what they are about, even if you don’t.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 3:54 pm #

            I think you’re just won it. And we’re not even out of January.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 3:54 pm #

            *you’ve*

          • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 5:04 pm #

            In other words, you just echo what I just said – as if that somehow magically disproves it. You think you’re a Witch with magic spells, powers, potions, and everything!

            You said “mono-culture” in regards to White countries, did you not? Comparing White Countries to a failed potato crop. Did I miss something? I just extrapolate what your stated ideas will lead to and which are indeed leading to already.

            Whites have plenty of diversity, both genetic and otherwise. We don’t need “enrichment” from utterly alien sources, which would only be an impoverishment.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 9, 2018 at 7:58 pm #

            Three cheers for your efforts to stand up for human health and welfare, GreenAlba. We must never lose sight of the fact that Janos is playing a different game altogether.

            Do you enjoy popular science articles? Then you might appreciate this:

            theverge.com/2018/1/3/16844842/ai-computer-vision-trick-adversarial-patches-google

            The nascent field of computer vision tries to replicate artificially what human beings do naturally: the visual recognition of objects. But like so many sophisticated electronic systems, state-of-the-art computer vision systems are vulnerable to being hacked — in this case by specially designed, abstract visual patterns, purpose-built to mislead and derail the computer vision algorithms.*

            Janos’ posts work in much the same fashion: by dumping his assorted irrelevancies, inanities and barbarities into the mix, he derails meaningful conversation and attracts the more attention to himself.

            * Bonus fun fact: This was anticipated by author Daniel Suarez in his Daemon book series a decade ago. These books are of potential interest to JHK’s readership in other ways, as well.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 11:44 pm #

            Quite right, Elrond. We have different goals. I’m on offense and you’re on defense. We intend to tear down your House of Lies stone by stone. As one of the Establishment, you try to discredit us, not matter how logical or reasonable we are. Needless to say, some of my material is whimsical, humorous, speculative, or even mystical, but you would take the same tack even if I was straight up serious all the time.

            A brief meditation: If you met someone who said they loved you but wanted to change everything about you, would you believe their claims to love you? Just so, I don’t believe Leftists who claim to love the West or their particular Nation as they want to change everything about them – even their most essential aspect, the very People themselves.

            Now obviously you can’t objections like this so you resort to ad hominems.

          • Elrond Hubbard January 10, 2018 at 9:33 am #

            I ‘can’t objections like this’? This sentence no verb. Anent your remark, you are fatally undermined and I am objectively the winner! AHH-hahahaha!

            youtube.com/watch?v=fp7Q1OAzITM

          • GreenAlba January 10, 2018 at 12:43 pm #

            Thanks for the link, Elrond. So many AI-related things that I read give me fresh cause for concern!

            Anent Janos, yes he does throw a lot into the pot at once, or rather in quick succession. I have no wish to be drawn into any of his historico-mystical stream-of-consciousness musings, especially the ones with rhetorical question marks at the end.

            Re public health, which is more practical, I’m glad to take a rest from Immunology. Today I find myself, professionally speaking, in the realm of anatomy and physiology, which is, by comparison, without controversy.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2018 at 1:33 pm #

            Elrond: By focusing on an obvious typo, you all but admit your defeat. You got nothing and your intellectual and moral poverty is made clear.

            Green: Like many, you’re more comfortable with facts and information as opposed to values and ideas. But the former are useless without the latter. And yes, such questions are more difficult – but also far more important.

        • janet January 9, 2018 at 7:56 pm #

          Anent rape, janos, rape has no religion. There is no “Muslim” or “Christian” rape, although there are so-called Muslims and so-called Christians who rape.

          The concept of rape makes its first historical appearance in early Jewish and Christian texts. Even today Christian churches don’t often talk about power and consent, and even more rarely do they truly acknowledge the reach and implications of Christian rape culture.

          Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.

  74. Newton Finn January 9, 2018 at 12:39 pm #

    Good for you, JHK! We could certainly do worse, and have certainly done worse, than put Oprah into the Oval Office. For all of the reasons you give as to why the idea may not be as crazy as it seems, I would add that Oprah might listen to Bernie Sander’s economic advisor, Stephanie Kelton, and help begin a new and more promising public discussion about so-called economic constraints, which are actually resource constraints that may provide more freedom to move than many of us have imagined. I forgot whether I linked to this video on a prior post (and if so, feel free to edit it out), but it has had a startling impact on my understanding of our economy and might have a similar effect on other readers of your blog. Again, I commend you for a commentary that may not sit well with some of those who read and comment here, but your fierce independence of thought has always been your greatest strength and appeal (even if you don’t, at this point, put any stock in MMT).

    youtube.com/watch?v=d57M6ATPZIE

  75. volodya January 9, 2018 at 12:47 pm #

    Sean, according to what I’ve read and according to a relative I’ve got in the medical field, there’s no vaccine-autism link.

    That’s not to say that companies making vaccine can’t be sloppy in their production methods and make people sick. So, yeah there’s a small risk every time you get a shot that something’s fucked up. But when it come right down to it, I’ll take the shot and take the risk. As I said to Beantown Bill I’ve seen kids with polio.

    Don’t know about you but I caught the damned measles and chicken pox and the mumps. The chicken pox was fairly mild, the mumps was worse, measles was down-right nasty. I was sick as a dog for more than a week. There was no vaccine available back then for these things.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 3:13 pm #

      Countless parents describe the utter destruction of their children within days of getting a vaccine, particularly the MMR. Observation not conjecture or hysteria. There is a connection, at least with some of the vaccines. The pertinent question: how do the vaccines vary? Did they change them? Earlier varieties didn’t seem to cause this.

      Robert De Niro was excited about a documentary about this. But he was taken to the woodshed a few years ago, and dully chastised, consented to the status quo that it had no place at a big film festival. The Elite will always support Big Pharma even if they’re not directly involved.

      • GreenAlba January 9, 2018 at 8:18 pm #

        Janos

        I’ve spent over 20 years working in medical publishing. Evidence-based medicine has been the standard for some time before that.

        I think I’ll stick with the work done by the specialists I work with over whatever Robert De Niro was excited about – or whatever his nibs further up found on the internet.

        I’m not aware that De Niro’s qualifications in the matter are any better than Gwynnie’s on the subject of ‘drinking’ your coffee from the wrong end. These people are a danger.

        theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/09/gwyneth-paltrow-goop-coffee-enema-colonic-irrigation

        If your child has a pre-existing condition that contra-indicates vaccination, that’s a different matter (like the child in the article above recovering from cancer treatment). Otherwise it’s a no-brainer. It’s bad enough that people have the legal right to take chances with their own kids without having a clue about science. But that they can take risks with other people’s children is shocking.

  76. pequiste January 9, 2018 at 12:57 pm #

    While on the treadmill at the gym (I sure hope Cold N. Holefield isn’t reading this comment) I saw a non-stop “Oprah running for president?” reportage and editorial onslaught, with expert analysis and opinion ( from folks who could not find their collective asses without a full police escort ) for nearly one half of the one-hour news cycle.

    The string pullers are having a field day with this idiocy, aren’t they now.

    Rumors circulating in Green Rooms, from 30 Rockefeller Plaza to Studio City, California, have it that none-other than Whoopie Goldberg is going to be earmarked for Oprah’s Cabinet as the Director of National Intelligence. She gets to keep her host gig on “The View” to boot.

    • volodya January 9, 2018 at 1:30 pm #

      You stand with slack jawed astonishment. Idiots levelling the accusation of idiocy.

      I just read an article in one of those august New York mags that fairly brims with intellectual and moral superiority. They basically said that Trump’s win was because of idiocy and racism. Again. They tried to connect Trump’s ascension with George Wallace’s rise to national politics, idiocy and racism being the connecting threads.

      It’s fine by me if they want to not see what’s right under their own noses. Their own inability to perceive and reason diminishes their own chances of survival.

      They say that winners write the history. In this case it’s the losers trying to write it. No matter who it is, twisting and lying about history doesn’t change the FACTS of what happened and FACTS whether historical or otherwise are exceedingly stubborn things.

      • janet January 9, 2018 at 8:01 pm #

        “It’s fine by me if they want to not see what’s right under their own noses” –volodya

        But do you see how the billionaire-benefitting policies of Trump are hurting the white voters, the evangelical voters, who supported Trump? Or have you already forgotten about the coal miners and the working people in flyover country?

    • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 3:18 pm #

      Yup, it will just continue to work of separating America, building on Obama’s work, Holder’s, BLM, Hands up, Kneeling, the new segregation on campus, etc. This is a holy alchemical separation, the very work of the universe. The Nigredo must be allowed to finish. The Carbons must settle to the bottom so the higher elements can attain the freedom of the aire….

  77. janet January 9, 2018 at 1:03 pm #

    “If we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall” –President Trump

    “President Trump has said he may need a good government shutdown to get his wall. With his demand, he seems to be heading in that direction” –Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin

    The current continuing resolution expires Jan. 19. Democrats say they won’t budge on a spending compromise without a path forward for DACA.

    Trump is dysfunctional as an executive and does not know how to make a DACA deal. A government shutdown seems likely in 2018.

    • ..Captain America.. January 9, 2018 at 7:53 pm #

      Great!

      That will produce record gains in cryptocurrency, and more available privately held funds to export those, like you, who profess no State of the Union meets their needs.

      Sent from the New Republic.

      C
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  78. capt spaulding January 9, 2018 at 1:57 pm #

    It just shows you how desperate people are for some kind of sane leadership when everybody seizes on the Oprah speech to make her a candidate for the presidency. Somewhat similar to the way that Obama was thrust into the national spotlight by virtue of a speech.. Has it really come down to this? Desperately grasping at straws in an attempt to avoid being sucked down into the whirlpool of dysfunction that is Washington DC? I guess if you are counting on the intelligence of the public to restore sanity, you are in for a big surprise. It’s one thing to read about this kind of shit in the history books, and another thing to be living it as it happens.

    • volodya January 9, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

      Yeah, it has come to this.

      For his vaunted “intelligence”, Obamya didn’t bloody learn. He created yet another failed state in Libya. He didn’t prosecute Wall Street. He appointed Mary Jo to police Wall Street banks. Which is like getting a mafia consigliere to be police commissioner. For anyone not born yesterday, getting Mary Jo pretty much guaranteed that Wall Street would cruise on unmolested.

      And Hillary’s emails. And the Clinton Uranium One deal.

      I could go on but what’s the point. Hope? Nope. Change? Forget it.

      Yes we can? No we can’t.

      • tucsonspur January 9, 2018 at 3:15 pm #

        Some flotsam and jetsam:

        I said it here many years ago: S.O.N.O.F.A.B.I.T.C.H.!

        “Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you….”, Oprah.

        My memory has been jogged to the more distant past, and Mary Jo Kopechne rises from the murky depths of Chappaquiddick. It was the end of Camelot.

        All the energy, passion, and physicality of youth was splendidly on display last night as the Tide rolled to victory.

        Brady the football Brat, not to be confused with Hellmuth, the poker Brat, tweeted this quote: “Fate says to the Warrior, ‘You cannot withstand the Storm’. The Warrior says ‘I am the Storm’.”

        Is Trump the Storm?

        • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 3:23 pm #

          Beautiful. The land must be purified by fire. Water only cleans the outsides of things. Fire cleans down to the molecular level. Nothing essential is harmed. The Carbons are left behind. The valuable elements are freed to seek more fruitful unions in higher wombs. As Crowley said, If a Man is a King, you cannot hurt Him.

      • ffkling January 9, 2018 at 6:05 pm #

        Whatever volodya. As I mentioned earlier, you remind me of the person who got left with a crappy divorce who cannot stop obsessing over their ex. EVERYTHING in their life is defined by what their ex-did, what their ex is doing, etc.…

        Replying to any criticism of Trump’s stupidity with this tired shit about Hillary, Obama, and crew is how children debate and argue.

        Is this the best you can do? So sad and pathetic.

        • ..Captain America.. January 9, 2018 at 8:20 pm #

          I can do better…..

          You never change something by fighting existing reality. To change something, build a new model that displaces the old one.

          …..and WE HAVE.

          Welcome to the New Republic!

          CA
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    • janet January 9, 2018 at 8:04 pm #

      “Somewhat similar to the way that Obama was thrust into the national spotlight by virtue of a speech…” –capt

      Yeah, and looked what happened in 2008 and 2012! (Oprah is intelligent.) Do not be worried. When women hold more than 50% of the positions of power the positive changes will become evident.

  79. Catconspiracy January 9, 2018 at 3:32 pm #

    Came back to eat my words.

    From checking my usual stops, I found the view that Oprah is considered entirely electable. Didn’t watch the Golden Globes as I am hella tired of trannies. Our host, his typically prescient self.

    Zappa Is missed. Politics is the entertainment branch of industry.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 3:38 pm #

      I found a youtube channel like this. He thought many if not most actresses were actually men who had transformed into women. Fascinating if true or even if only thought.

  80. Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 3:47 pm #

    amren.com/news/2018/01/leaked-memo-dreamers-critical-dems-future-electoral-success/

    There you have it, frends. Treason. Don Jr must take up the baton (sceptre) from the failing hand of his father and lead us to Victory. Or it can be a Sword. You choice, fiends.

    Trump Sr cannot secure our Nation. He is unable or unwilling to do what it would take to do so. But if his failure leads to a 3rd Party, and a new media network to facilitate it, then his Legacy could be real and rich indeed.

  81. BuckP January 9, 2018 at 4:53 pm #

    The Hill Headline on January 8, 2018

    Pelosi’s son celebrated New Year’s Eve with the Trumps at Mar-a-Lago

    As George Carlin kinda said:
    It’s a big Mar-a-Lago and you ain’t in it!

    While we argue in comments sections, on Facebook and with relatives at Thanksgiving dinner and worry about paying for medicine, they are partying with each other in mansions and laughing in our faces. They know it is a racket and they are all getting rich because of it.
    Why no big outcry from Dems over the recent marijuana crackdown announced by AG Sessions.The answer is because one of their masters, big Pharma, wants a crackdown. Marijuana is a big threat to the drug makers of pain killers, opiates, seizure medications, chemo sickness medications (now at $350/month), etc.

    • ffkling January 9, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

      Oh sure, Bucky, you have the pulse of the Democratic constituency well understood- LOL what a pathetic joke.

      • BuckP January 9, 2018 at 6:55 pm #

        Name calling, eh! Prove me wrong! Have a take and don’t suck! Is that too hard for ya, ffkling? Maybe you are a pathetic joke!

        13 Dem Senators voted against Senators Bernie Sander’s and Amy Klobucher’s budget resolution to allow Americans to buy cheaper prescribed drugs from Canada and elsewhere. One of those Senators was the progressive hero Corey Booker. GOP Senators Rand Paul, McCain and Cruz crossed party lines to vote for it, but Big Pharma won the day and the measure was defeated. But the Dems are for the working man! Sure, after, the big donors are taken care of!

        • ffkling January 9, 2018 at 11:24 pm #

          Referring to you by your moniker now constitutes “name-calling”? You are the definition of a Republicon snowflake.

          Oh sure, how do I prove you wrong that the Dems are not protesting sufficiently regarding Trump’s flip flop on marijuana? Do you have a meter calibrated to make such assessments?

          Dumb and dumber.

          • BuckP January 10, 2018 at 12:37 am #

            LOL! I have been called a lot of things in my life but I have never been accused of being a Republican or a GASP! snowflake!
            BTWI’m not happy with DNC and the corporatist Democrats, who sabotaged Bernie’s candidacy. I am presently partyless.

      • janet January 9, 2018 at 8:25 pm #

        Trump is still a Democrat at heart, friend of Chuck and Nancy.

  82. Janos Skorenzy January 9, 2018 at 4:57 pm #

    Trump chairs a meeting anent immigration and DACA with a bipartisan committee. Crazy? Unbalanced? Monomaniacal? No, sorry Libs. Utterly presidential – Chairman of the Board of one of the Fortune 500 type stuff. Indeed too much so for my taste. We’re going to get DACA despite his promise to us. He’s trading it for some kind of broken wall. Well it was only a Symbol, but an important one. The electronic wall of e-verify isn’t even mentioned. THAT would stop all this in its tracks. Again, is he serious? If so, how much?

    • janet January 9, 2018 at 8:17 pm #

      For once I agree with you, janos. Trump is doing the right thing by protecting the Dreamers. They broke no laws upon being carried across the border as infants. Being undocumented is not a crime anyway.

      • janet January 9, 2018 at 8:30 pm #

        I also like that Trump went back on his word about offshore drilling off Florida coasts.

  83. ffkling January 9, 2018 at 5:57 pm #

    My goodness, all the Republicons have their panties all in a wad over Oprah. That’s an encouraging sign if I ever heard one.

  84. ..Captain America.. January 9, 2018 at 7:49 pm #

    How’s the censoring working out for you Kunstler, you jack ass.

    Sent from the New Republic.

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    • janet January 9, 2018 at 8:22 pm #

      Create your own website. Your freedom of speech has not been abrogated. JHK is the owner and can delete whatever he wants to delete.

      • ..Captain America.. January 9, 2018 at 8:30 pm #

        I have.

        Many.

        ……and you will get your dream of government shutdown

        crytpocurrency valuations will accelerate in response….and so will privately funded voluntary deportations of those who profess no State of the Union meets their needs….STARTING WITH YOU.

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  85. Pucker January 9, 2018 at 9:05 pm #

    I read a book sometime ago in which I recall that the author discussed the rise of the Celebrity Politician phenomenon in the US in which the US public confuses politicians and TV celebrities and politicians easily become celebrities and celebrities easily become politicians. I can’t remember the title of the book.

    The US culture may be Farce?

  86. beantownbill. January 9, 2018 at 10:01 pm #

    When it comes to politics, I have to admit it’s difficult for me to remain balanced and impartial; but I try. I’m trying to look at this Oprah thing equitably. My first inclination was to dismiss the idea as stupid. But on further reflection, why not? She doesn’t seem to have the gravitas to be a world leader, but in today’s world of instant communication and personal contact, why does a person have to – we get to know these people much more intimately, as Trump’s tweeting illustrates.

    And Trump doesn’t appear to be a real serious person – someone with enough character to greatly respect. On the other hand, Trumps’s foes have relentlessly attacked him more severely than any other politician in memory, even more than Tricky Nick Dixon. In that regard, much of his agenda has been compromised in his first year.

    I say this: Before we embrace an Oprah candidacy – or anyone else for that matter – we need to see how his presidency unfolds over the next year to 2 years. Otherwise, we aren’t being fair to the office. Then, we we would have a broader basis to make an informed decision. With all the slings and arrows being flung at him from all directions, I don’t believe we’ve given him a chance to either hang himself or become great.

    As of this moment, despite what we think the near future will bring, we haven’t been attacked with nuclear bombs, the average citizen is not starving, most people aren’t homeless, the US hasn’t yet split into several independent nations, and unreasonably or not, the equity markets are booming.

    I’m not pro-Trump, and I believe bad things may yet occur, but until they do, leave Mr.T the fuck alone. We gave Obama 8 years; I’m saying Trump ought to get a little more time.

    • ffkling January 9, 2018 at 11:36 pm #

      Making excuses for Trump’s numerous flip flops and failure to do anything meaningful on account of his critics rings most hollow considering that the Republicons control all branches of government. By any standard, the Republicon congress has served as Trump’s chief enabler.

      Your standard for evaluating Trump is we have not yet been attacked by nuclear bombs? You do realize that the US is the only country in the world whereby a single individual- now it’s President Dump-has the ability to destroy all life on Earth.

      Trump and nukes: youtube.com/watch?v=Tj9M34DzAKo&t=82s

      • Cavepainter January 10, 2018 at 11:06 am #

        That’s not how it works, thanks to the genius of our founders in crafting our government as it is — divided powers and all preventing the impulse of one person to determine the nation’s destiny.

      • LagingRunatic January 10, 2018 at 2:18 pm #

        ffkling – “You do realize that the US is the only country in the world whereby a single individual- now it’s President Dump-has the ability to destroy all life on Earth.”

        Yep. I also realize it was that same way for the three decades before before I was born, with folks like Dwight, LBJ, and Dick Nixon at the button. Our nuke arsenal was just as vast and deadly with all the non-Trumps in charge, and we’ve had greater cause in the past to fear that arsenal being used. (Something about a cold war going hot comes to mind.)

        Maybe instead of working to get rid of Trump, we get working to get rid of the nukes? Nah, probably not partisan enough to fly.

        • ffkling January 10, 2018 at 7:56 pm #

          “with all the non-Trumps in charge, and we’ve had greater cause in the past to fear that arsenal being used.”

          Hmm…….for the vast majority of Americans the idea that this power of God like destruction rests in the hands of a person prone to violent outbursts of anger, rage, and revenge is cause in of itself, not to mention numerous existential threats, for deep concern and worry.

          Could this be Trump’s destiny: youtube.com/watch?v=Tj9M34DzAKo&t=82s

    • BackRowHeckler January 9, 2018 at 11:49 pm #

      a little more time , Bill, and also to be treated fairly by the media, including Hollywood.

      i don’t think that’s going to happen, tho.

      I’ve never seen such hatred.

      brh

      • BackRowHeckler January 9, 2018 at 11:52 pm #

        But at least now we are seeing how its done, and will treat any future Dem president in kind.

        ‘Measure for measure’, the Bard once said.

        brh

        • tucsonspur January 10, 2018 at 2:31 am #

          That hatred leaves a real impression, unlike anything in my memory. It’s high, wide, and deep.

        • ffkling January 10, 2018 at 7:44 pm #

          Oh sure, Republicans of recent memory are known for their “fair and balanced” treatment of a Democratic president-LOL.

          Instead, it’s finally time the Dems grow some balls and fight the Republicons using the same sleazy tactics- all that matters is winning. Your comment reaffirms this belief. Thank you.

  87. ..Captain America.. January 9, 2018 at 10:41 pm #

    7.6 MAG EARTHQUAKE STRIKES CARIBBEAN.
    Tsunami warning issued for Puerto Rico, Anguilla, U.S. Virgin Islands.
    earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us1000c2zy#executive

    Sent from the New Republic.

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    • BackRowHeckler January 9, 2018 at 11:46 pm #

      Yeah, here at the plant my West Indian co workers are fiddling around with their phones and tablets, with anxious looks on their faces, searching for the latest news from the home islands, and trying to make contact with loved ones.

      Big worry seems to be a tsunami coming up and washing everyone away.

      Puerto Rico is already on its knees; one more blow and it’ll be down for the count. This isn’t good.

      brh

      • ..Captain America.. January 10, 2018 at 12:51 am #

        Best wishes to you and your loved ones.

        As a subject matter expert on plate tectonics, more plate movement is anticipated…..

        And the use of HAARP directed extremely low frequency in the induction of movement is another contributing factor.

        “Everything we see is a shadow cast by that which we do not.”
        -MLK, 1968.

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  88. janet January 10, 2018 at 12:02 am #

    “We gave Obama 8 years; I’m saying Trump ought to get a little more time.” –beantown

    C’mon, beantown, we gave Obama 8 years, but Trump didn’t give Obama 8 years. Trump started the Birther Movement and falsely hounded Obama about his citizenship and his religion, falsely calling Obama a Muslim. Who is falsely questioning Trump’s citizenship? Who is falsely calling Trump a Muslim? Trump has had it easy, but he is a whiner with a paranoid victim mentality.

    We cannot give Trump more time because he has already shown in his first year that he cannot complete a legislative agenda. By definition an agenda has more than one item on it (i.e., more than a tax bill).

    Trump wants to waste billions of dollars on a border wall. He does not know anything about building walls. He doesn’t know anything about the border. He doesn’t know anything about the drug trade or kingpins. Narcos use drones, submarines, ultralight planes to smuggle drugs. They won’t be stopped by a wall.

    And yet President Trump argues that his proposed border wall, a throwback to a bygone era, will “stop much of the drugs from pouring into this country and poisoning our youth.”

    As he said last July, he is worried that smugglers will throw “large sacks of drugs” over the wall and hit US citizens on the head — a preoccupation that led to his request for a transparent border wall. He proves he is an idiot every day.

    Should he get funding from Congress to build such a wall, Trump will be faced by an even bigger problem — the geographical reality of the border itself. Any wall will have to navigate floodplains, international treaties and the rights of landowners who refuse to sell their land. Simply put, Trump does not understand the dynamics of the US-Mexico border.

    • BackRowHeckler January 10, 2018 at 12:19 am #

      How about just stringing out spools of barbed wire, in depth, like on the western front in 1916? That wouldn’t cost much.

      brh

    • janet January 10, 2018 at 12:56 am #

      Oh, I forgot trucks. Drug dealers and human traffickers rely on the trucking industry to move drugs and people via the 52 legal crossing points along the US border.

      The incredible quantities of money generated by smuggling are often used to grease the palms of border agents and others who inspect vehicles entering the US.

      None of this would be stopped by a wall.

  89. ..Captain America.. January 10, 2018 at 12:29 am #

    YES!!! OPRAH FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
    ……of the Screen Actors Guild.
    dropbox.com/s/xk9fcg2pkhkzgem/OPRAH%20FOR%20PRESIDENT.pdf?dl=0

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  90. tucsonspur January 10, 2018 at 1:08 am #

    “…is now in the hands of a golden shower loving weakling”. Janet

    “Still it holds a goodly share of bliss
    When the sun gives way to Golden showers
    Here is the point you should never miss;
    Though Golden showers may come your way
    They bring the flowers that bloom in May
    So if it’s raining have no regrets
    Because it isn’t raining rain you know, it’s raining urilets…”

  91. janet January 10, 2018 at 1:17 am #

    Another day, another Trump loss in court. A federal judge in San Francisco on Tuesday temporarily blocked the Trump administration from ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program that protects certain immigrants from deportation.

    Judge William Alsup said the program must remain in place while litigation over Trump’s decision to end the program plays out. In a court ruling, Alsup said the Department of Homeland Security’s “decision to rescind DACA was based on a flawed legal premise.”

    Trump’s presidency is based on a flawed premise that a billionaire who has stiffed carpenters, electricians, iron workers, sheetrock installers, etc., by refusing to pay them, actually cares about workers in flyover country who voted for him. Heard from coal miners in Kentucky lately?

    TRUMP’S COAL BAILOUT IS DEAD

    theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/01/trumps-coal-bailout-is-dead/550037/

  92. janet January 10, 2018 at 1:26 am #

    Diane Feinstein is an example of what Oprah said about speaking truth to power. By releasing the transcripts of a public document Feinstein exposed, and simultaneously neutralized, the deceitful Republican effort to demean the FBI investigation into Trump-Russia collusion.

    Trump filed a lawsuit today against Fusion GPS in a futile attempt to distract. They are laughing at Trump, who doesn’t even understand libel law.

    God bless Oprah. God bless Diane Feinstein. Me too.

  93. tucsonspur January 10, 2018 at 2:22 am #

    Trump says the DACA bill should be a “bill of love”.

    That’s right Donald, hit ’em hard. Let’s also build a Wall of Love.

    To keep everybody in. For the Great Diversity Love Fest in 2024. And every four years thereafter. With a magnificent, stupendous event planned for 2060 jubilantly called, “Wane of the Whites”.

    • janet January 10, 2018 at 2:36 am #

      Gonna happen way before 2060. Can’t happen soon enough.

    • Ol' Scratch January 10, 2018 at 7:52 am #

      The US won’t exist as a single coherent entity in 2060. Very possibly not in 2030. In the event that some part of it does (likely the NE corridor), it will be totalitarian.

      • Cavepainter January 10, 2018 at 9:07 am #

        ‘White privilege’ is the advantage enjoyed by all who live in Westernized nations, regardless of skin color, ethnicity, religious affiliation, national origin, sexual identity, or whatever other personal distinction one chooses to own. That’s because all the advantages of modern society are product of Western Culture’s singular achievements in advancing all areas of human endeavor. That is to say, the achievement of Europeans – those now demonized ‘Whites’
        .
        Human behavior hasn’t changed in thousands of years, yet just within the few thousand years of Western Culture’s emergence it has advanced principles of social organization and governance that, beyond all other, offers the most hopeful prospect of averting humanities most egregious tendencies, thus instituting levels of tolerance and equality beyond consideration by any other cultures. Oh yeah, evil ‘Whitey’.

        The broader contextual reading of history necessary to illustrate how unique – by all comparison — has been Western Culture’s progression from Grecian philosophy, Roman common law, the 13th Century Magna Carte, the 16the Century Renaissance, the 18th Century Enlightenment to the US Constitution and Bill of Rights is now being sacrificed to the smug, self-aggrandizing ‘virtue signaling’ committed by Oprah Winfrey during her Golden Globe demagoguery.

  94. FincaInTheMountains January 10, 2018 at 5:54 am #

    German artistry in Ukraine deserves a second Nuremberg.

    They could consider all agreements between Kohl and Gorbachev cancelled by their support of Neo Nazis and the genocide of Russians in Eastern Ukraine by the method of artillery shelling of residential districts. == Finca

    To the question of the meeting of Orthodox Irish with Cathars in the underground of the Catholic world

    cathar.info/

    First of all, it should be said that Albigensians were declared Satanists by the Catholics, who in the second half of the 12th century and in the first half of the 13th century demonstrated themselves as such “true” Christians.

    Perhaps this was the most despicable and bloody time in the history of the Eurasian continent and it all began with the fact that on June 7, 1112, 30 young noblemen led by a 22 year old Burgundian aristocrat Bernard, knocked at the gate of the monastery of Citeaux and they all expressed a desire to become Catholic monks.

    The head of this group turned out to be a man of outstanding virtues, immense willpower and “inhuman” humility, which he demonstrated by shifting and directing the popes and kings, creating and dismantling knightly orders, casually “inventing” racial anti-Semitism, the purposeful extermination of entire nations as the principle of international politics and while doing all that managing to receive the title of the “saint”.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_of_Clairvaux

    Of course, his followers succeeded in translating their teacher’s ideas into reality only 8 centuries later during the reign of the Third Reich in Europe, but in 1147-1229 they for the first time in the history of Europe carried out several genocides, when the count of victims went to millions. Among them were the anti-Slavic and anti-Orthodox Northern Crusade, the anti-Greek and anti-Orthodox Fourth Crusade and the Albigensian Crusade, which was not only religious but also racial, and each time the murderers justified their atrocities with Satanism of those they were killing.

    Indeed, the Albigensian Crusade was directed not so much at the followers of the Catharism as at the very Gallo-Romans of the Languedoc, to whom at one time Gaius Julius Caesar gave Roman citizenship.

    In any case, this was the meaning of the order Kill them all, God will know His own

    But it was this act of Caesar that turned the Roman Republic into the Roman Empire, which later became the Christian Empire, and the Orthodox Church teaches that the appearance of the Roman Empire was one of the providential preparations to the Incarnation of the Mission of Christ.

    A tearful story of how the leader of the Albigensian Crusade, Simon de Montfort, after storming Zara refused to participate in the Fourth Crusade, is likely part of the propaganda story that the Crusaders took Constantinople by accident, inadvertently “getting lost”, as the vile Venetians refused to take them to Palestine, where they allegedly were sent initially.

    In their eyes the authority of the Venetian Enrico Dandolo was so great that they obediently did all that he asked of them (and he asked them to take by storm a “little” town, which was the capital of Byzantium), instead of their initial plans to take and burn Venice just as they did in a month in Zara, and six months later in Constantinople.

    However, no propaganda can hide the fact that behind both the Albigensian Crusade and the Fourth Crusade and, even more so, the Northern Crusade, was a newly emerged force, which we will conditionally call militant Catholicism, which Orthodox Christians in no way can consider Christian at least because of the anathemas pronounced in 1054, and in 1147, within the framework of the Second Crusade, the Vendian Crusade began, which was openly anti-Orthodox.

    The Vendian Crusade was proclaimed by the Frankfurt Reichstag in March 1147, at which the crusaders proclaimed as pagans Orthodox Slavs and Vikings, long baptized in Orthodoxy by the Irish monks, and the “holy” Bernard of Clairvaux substantiated the need for natio deleatur, that is the genocide, which was executed by Simon de Montfor in 1209 in Languedoc and Hermann von Salz, the Grand Master of the Teutonic Order in Prussia.

    And the only reason why in 1147-1153 the count of the victims of the Vendian Crusade did not go to millions was the desperate resistance to the crusaders by the Orthodox Slavs and the Vikings living in the vicinity of the city of Stettin and the fortress of Dobin, which not only inflicted “unacceptable damage” on the crusaders, but also raised the crosses on the walls, shouting that they were Christians.

    At the end of the 12th century, Irish Orthodoxy in Western Europe had not yet lost its organizational structures and understood perfectly well that Roman Catholicism was an anti-Christian force, with which the struggle was for live and death.

    Irish were the first victims of the struggle against “heretics”, which unfolded right after the church relations with the Byzantine Orthodoxy were finally broken, and only then did the turn to the Cathars, Templars, Waldenses, Hussites, etc., etc.

    • Ol' Scratch January 10, 2018 at 11:12 am #

      So you and akmofo are basically contending that there has long been a “holy war” of sorts going on between the Christians and the Jews, with the Christians apparently getting the best of it for the most part, in that they’ve successfully inculcated anti-semitism into large segments of the population. And it goes without saying that both of them are united against Islam, the other third (to my mind half, as Christianity is little more than a derivative “Johnny come lately” conglomeration of half-truths, distortions, and downright lies to make people feel better about the fact that they’re truly fucked in this world, if not the next) of the abominable Abrahamic religious triad of insanity.

      Where to start, where to start? To begin with, I’d recommend throwing the whole damn mess in the rubbish bin of history and starting all over again from scratch. I’m amazed that anyone can take any of this shit seriously in this day and age, but I guess there’s still just no accounting for people’s basic fear of their own death and what comes next, so they feel the need to hedge their bets with primitive superstitions and rituals. On the plus side, humanity’s likely not long for this world anyway, so maybe then the rest of nature (or what’s left of it after we get done fucking it up) can get back to some semblance of normal again. The idea that some wrathful and capricious “god” (no more than a primitive human psychological projection) either could or would “redeem” any of our lost souls is simply laughable on the face of it, no matter how many silly acts of contrition and/or blood sacrifice we would perform.

      • FincaInTheMountains January 10, 2018 at 11:57 am #

        So you and akmofo are basically contending that there has long been a “holy war” of sorts going on between the Christians and the Jews, with the Christians apparently getting the best

        No, not at all.

        What I am contending is that there was at least a 1000 years ago and still is a potent anti-Christian force (the proverbial Black Project – my personal term) which is at war with the Christianity itself as a concept.

        In various historical periods this anti-Christian force materialized in various shapes and forms, including being Christian on the surface – from certain Popes and Cardinals, to Teutonic Order and Crusaders, and to Ahnenerbe and NSDAP, to Hillary Clinton and American Neocons in modern times.

        Anti Semitism is just a side dish for that force.

      • FincaInTheMountains January 10, 2018 at 12:07 pm #

        Also, I contend that back then, England, Norway, Denmark, Russia were part of a single Christian Viking Empire, with Christianity spread by the Irish Orthodox monks in the West and by the Greeks in the East.

        And that the grandfather of Prince Hamlet was the Founder or Russian Royal Rurik dynasty.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 10, 2018 at 2:22 pm #

        So wrong. So wrong. Google “Jewish role in the Muslim Conquest of Spain” and read the wiki. Muslims would take a town and then leave a Jewish garrison to hold and administer it while they went on to the next. The Crusaders knew they were fighting both groups in the Reconquista.

        Jews and Muslims have often cooperated against Christendom. As they are now in the mass invasion.