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These two words are the hinge that is swinging American life — and the advanced techno-industrial world, for that matter — toward darkness. They represent an infection in the critical operations of daily life, like a metabolic disease, driving us into disorder and failure. And they are so omnipresent that we’ve failed to even notice the growing failure all around us.

Mostly, these diminishing returns are the results of our over-investments in making complex systems more complex, for instance the replacement of the 37-page Glass-Steagall Act that regulated American banking, with the 848 page Dodd-Frank Act, which was only an outline for over 22,000 pages of subsequent regulatory content — all of it cooked up by banking lobbyists, and none of which replaced the single most important rule in Glass-Steagall, which required the separation of commercial banking from trafficking in securities. Dodd-Frank was a colossal act of misdirection of the public’s attention, an impenetrable smokescreen of legal blather in the service of racketeering.

For Wall Street, Dodd-Frank aggravated the conditions that allow stock indexes to only move in one direction, up, for nine years. During the same period, the American economy of real people and real stuff only went steadily down, including the number of people out of the work force, the incomes of those who still had jobs, the number of people with full-time jobs, the number of people who were able to buy food without government help, or pay for a place to live, or send a kid to college.

When that morbid tension finally snaps, as it must, it won’t only be the Hedge Funders of the Hamptons who get hurt. It will be the entire global financial system, especially currencies (dollars, Euros, Yen, Pounds, Renminbi) that undergo a swift and dire re-pricing, and all the other things of this world priced in them. And when that happens, the world will awake to a new reality of steeply reduced possibilities for supporting 7-plus billion people.

The same over-investments in complexity have produced the racketeering colossus of so-called health care (formerly “medicine”), in case you’re wondering why the waiting room of your doctor’s office now looks exactly like the motor vehicle bureau. Meanwhile, it’s safe to say that the citizens of this land have never been so uniformly unhealthy, even as they’re being swindled and blackmailed by their “providers.” The eventual result will be a chaotic process of simplification, as giant hospital corporations, insurance companies, and overgrown doctors’ practices collapse, and the braver practitioners coalesce into something resembling Third World clinics.

We’re still struggling to even apprehend the damage being done to people by cell phones — and I’m not even referring to whatever microwaves actually do to brain cells. Many find it amusing to see whole streets and campus byways filled with young people staring into their phones. Whatever they’re gaining in endorphin hits from “being connected” is undermined by the immense losses they’re suffering in real social skills and the sinister effects of behavioral conditioning by the programmers of web-based social networks. These failures are being expressed in new social phenomena like flash mobs and the manipulation of college students into Maoist thought police — and these are only the most visible manifestations. A more insidious outcome will be a whole generation’s failure to develop a sense of personal agency in a long emergency of civilization that will require exactly that aptitude for survival.

Among the more popular and idiotic strains of diminishing returns is the crusade to replace gasoline-powered cars with electric-powered vehicles. And for what? To promote the illusion that we can continue to be car-dependent and live in suburbia. Neither of those wishful notions is supported by reality. Both of them will soon yield to the fundamental crisis of capital scarcity. In the meantime, hardly anyone is interested in the one thing that would produce a better outcome for Americans: a return to walkable communities scaled to economic reality.

The convulsions over President Trump’s vivid clowning are just a symptom of the concealed rot eating away at the foundations of American life. What they demonstrate most of all is the failure of this society’s sensory organs — the news media — to ascertain what is actually happening to us. And the recognition of that failure accounts for the current state of the media’s disrepute, even if its critics are doing a poor job of articulating it.


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  1. pequiste August 21, 2017 at 9:25 am #

    And just think we all have to get through this afternoon’s total solar eclipse first……

    I’ve decided on wearing the aluminum foil number.

    • FallenHero August 21, 2017 at 10:09 am #

      The alt-left has really shown their colors this last week. Despite 24/7 ‘nazi’ propaganda, I think most people are seeing how out of control they are. Consider at college where more and more using the word ‘man’ is offensive and so on.

      Collapse or civil war looking more likely always.

      • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 10:24 am #

        You’ve got torch carrying Nazi’s parading around like it was Kristallnaucht and you say the alt-left is really showing their colors. You must be watching BIZARRO WORLD.

        • Elrond Hubbard August 21, 2017 at 10:58 am #

          The Nazis have assault weapons, too — it wouldn’t do to forget about those. (It really wouldn’t.)

          • Cavepainter August 21, 2017 at 11:21 am #

            Get off your bullshit Hubbard; you, like the media, pixel pick anecdotes squirreling through the headlines that accentuate extremities of political polarity because doing so feeds the paranoia residing there — which you embrace because doing so nourishes your virtue signalling. “(It really wouldn’t)”, you say,….but oh, no mention of the dysfunction within inner cities that has been perpetrated by the pimps of victimhood and race.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

          Most of them aren’t German National Socialists (technically, none of them are), but just White Men who want a future for themselves and their people. Perfectly normal. You folks however are a very different story. Your attempt to reinforce and universalize PC Pavlovian Conditioning may blow up in your faces.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

            I think some of them are from Central Casting.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 2:04 pm #

            Well, you’ve already revealed your Anti-White and Anti-Male bias and bigotry. We KNOW they ship in paid Leftists protestors by the bushel. That being said, Mr Kessler has a very alarming background as an Occupy and Obama clone. But who knows? He may have Awakened. I did. I once believed many of these illusions. It’s possible. You can become more than you are – better, stronger, wiser.

          • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 6:50 pm #

            Technically they’re Nazis.

        • lbs August 21, 2017 at 2:23 pm #

          A few hundred right wing racists demonstrating in Charlottesville.

          Thousands of leftists demonstrating in our cities for the obliteration of civil liberties and the rule of law.

          Yes, the leftist goons are a far bigger threat.

          • Elrond Hubbard August 22, 2017 at 12:49 pm #

            Libel. The counter-protesters are just that: protesting against the white supremacists, and in far greater numbers. Stop lying.

        • shotho August 22, 2017 at 8:39 pm #

          Exactly which shop windows were broken and which men were made to lick the pavement?

      • fineline August 21, 2017 at 8:43 pm #

        There is no alt left. Just because Donald utterd it, does not make it a reality.
        Just because they Bannon Breitbart boys invented the term alt right to explain their distortion of reality, does not mean there is an alt left.

        • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 9:29 am #

          How about an alt middle?

        • zizzybalooba August 22, 2017 at 3:05 pm #

          Then let’s just alt-delete you, fineline

    • K-Dog August 21, 2017 at 11:06 pm #

      Getting through the eclipse was easy enough but getting there was a journey. I went to Rexburg Idaho from Seattle, a journey of several hundred miles, For me the eclipse was able to do what eclipses do! Skies were clear and everybody at my campsite had a great time. Nobody was disappointed with the performance. I was struck by the 360 degree sunset or if you prefer, a 360 degree sunrise. I have never seen any descriptions about that phenomenon. A cap of night topped the ring of orange around me.

      Any future such get-togethers will not be so carefree There will be diminishing returns. Gas is cheap now but if in the future it remains cheap it will be because nobody has any money. That is the only way something scarce and desirable can stay cheap. The interstates are in a continual state of being rebuilt but this will not be going on when the economy fails because the tax money will not be there to maintain the roads. The huge crowds that enjoyed this eclipse wont be able to assemble for another.

      I’m in a motel halfway back to Seattle staying the night in Drummond Montana. I fear this solar eclipse will be a symbolic link to future generations which will be tied to a steep sharp decline in the American standard of living.

      The eclipse comes on slowly but right before totality the physical changes around you accelerate. American decline has been happening slowly for a long time now and I fear an sharp increase in that decline will follow the eclipse pattern.

      • benr August 23, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

        Good post!

        Seattle makes perfect sense for why your politics are so out there.
        It most be a toxin in the water from nor cal on up the coast.
        With that said you still seem more sane than many of the alt left antifa bat shit crazy nuts I keep seeing assault anyone with a different view of the world.

  2. Pucker August 21, 2017 at 9:46 am #

    I’ve read several books about the Khmer Rouge regime of Pol Pot. (My favorite being a book entitled “S-21”; Another entitled “Off the Rails in Cambodia: Into the Dark World of Girls, Guns, and Ganga” about the collapsed Post-Khmer Rouge Cambodia.). Nothing better than reading a pirated book bought from an orphan street kid about Pol Pot and genocide while drinking an ice-cold Angkor beer and eating a weed pizza at a street side bar in Phnom Penh, Cambodia.

    “The Australian, 19 August 2017
    Everyone’s smashing statues. From Islamic State hotheads sledgehammering ancient artefacts in old Mesopotamian cities to plummy students at Oxford demanding the removal of busts of old colonialists, waging war on the past is all the rage.
    A Year Zero mentality is on the march. People seem hellbent on wiping out history, making it invisible, and starting society all over again, cleansed of the likenesses of dead people of whom they disapprove.”

  3. cornpone2014 August 21, 2017 at 9:47 am #

    I miss the days when the halfrican was sitting on the throne.

    “dat ain’t who we is”

    later,
    -Moe

  4. Pucker August 21, 2017 at 9:47 am #

    “It’s Year Zero, Baby! Anything goes, and Nothing Matters!”

  5. Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 9:52 am #

    Wait, you mean the Obamassiah did not reform ‘health care’?
    The people who caused the financial crash did not fix it?
    There are people out there doing a damn fine job at articulating exactly what is wrong with the news media in this country. You just won’t see their work in the mainstream media, that’s all. For obvious reasons.
    The Tea Party and the Occupiers were on the same side, they just didn’t know it.

    • DrTomSchmidt August 21, 2017 at 10:01 am #

      I suspect that the white and black working classes, and soon lower middle classes, would be on the same side too. Keeping them from recognizing this and fighting each other is THE most important task of the mainstream media at the moment, owned and run as it is by oligarchs.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 11:30 am #

        That fight is still largely a media story. The working classes are too busy working to pay that much attention.
        It’s the college kids with the ‘news’ feeds on their cell phones who think BLM is actually a force to be reckoned with, for instance.
        Most of the ‘protestors’ in Ferguson had to be bused in from other parts of the country.
        I’m not saying there isn’t a divide in this country. I’m just saying it isn’t like people think it is.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

          And of course you want to “cure” that divide by breeding us out of existence with them – which was Jefferson’s nightmare.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

            Who, me? I don’t want to cure something that isn’t a disease. People can do what they want, with whomever they want, in America. It’s none of the MSM’s business, and it is certainly none of the government’s business.
            BTW, our government, not only under Obama as well, but ESPECIALLY under Obama, could not care less about what happens to people in our inner city neighborhoods, no matter what their color.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 5:21 pm #

            Quite right: if my sister marries a Black, she is no longer any of my concern. Nor my brother. Nor my friend. Those who love me will keep to the Law that binds us together. And for every sister, brother, or friend I lose, I will gain a hundredfold.

          • Elrond Hubbard August 22, 2017 at 1:22 pm #

            earltwitty: That article is consistent with my understanding that all present-day humans are genetically pretty similar.

            news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7358868.stm

            Our African ancestors appear to have been separated into two populations for several tens of thousand years before merging again some 40-50,000 years ago. There’s a theory that the human population may have dropped as low as 2,000 individuals at one point, which would account for the substantial lack of genetic diversity in present-day humans. However different Homo erectus, Neanderthals or others may have been from us, we sapiens are the only human species left, and the differences among us are pretty superficial.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 23, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

            Yeah, what does thirty IQ points mean anyway? Once Negroes (IQ 70) are mixed with Whites (IQ 100), then everyone will be the same. Problem solved – much like Bush JR proposing to solve illegal immigration by simply legalizing all of them. “Great” minds thing alike….

      • messianicdruid August 21, 2017 at 11:30 am #

        Obadiah, Obadiah, Obadiah cleansing time…

        [ sung to the tune of ‘oh my darling’ ]

      • elysianfield August 21, 2017 at 11:41 am #

        “I suspect that the white and black working classes, and soon lower middle classes, would be on the same side too”

        Dr Tom,
        Yes! Just like the Tutsis and Hutus came together to fight racism and poverty….

        Or the Protestants and Catholics in Ireland….

        Or the Sunni and Shia in Iraq….

        • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 11:48 am #

          Not like that, as the black and white lower classes aren’t as ‘divided’ right now as the MSM likes to portray.

          • elysianfield August 21, 2017 at 12:11 pm #

            “Not like that, as the black and white lower classes aren’t as ‘divided’ right now as the MSM likes to portray

            Beryl,
            Sorry, but I must disagree….

          • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

            The races largely ignore each other except for the dumb White girls who are dragged down into the abyss from which there is no return. Once things get bad, Blacks will attack – and meet their quietus.

            Blacks and Whites are naturally separated by a hundred thousand years of Evolution. Any attempt to bring them together is simply and utterly evil.

          • malthuss August 21, 2017 at 4:01 pm #

            The Media pushes race mixing, Black superiority and a host of other things.
            Why do you think that they had to remove so many Reality Based Sites?

            SEE AP ARTICLE BY MS. ORTUTAY.

        • DrTomSchmidt August 21, 2017 at 5:51 pm #

          The Hutus were one of two tribes, and they were the power structure, EF. Of course, the Tutsis had been the rulers under the Belgians, so perhaps 1994 was payback time.

          Protestants and Catholics in Ireland is an interesting thought. Neither is part of the U.K. Ruling class or dominant religion. They did, eventually, stop killing each other.

          Sunni and Shia: it was a month ago when, in a Sunni country, I was told by a Sunni Arab that the Persians are basically not Muslim and are trying to revert to Zoroastrianism. This makes them apostates and worthy of death, and I’m sure the Sunnis would love to get rolling on that score. In Iraq you have disorder added to this. Net result: reconciliation doubtful.

          So, prospects aren’t good, one grants that. The change will never happen if both sides can see each other as enemies, spurred on by a fake news media serving the elite. Still, the Cubs won the World Series last year, so stranger things have happened.

          • elysianfield August 21, 2017 at 7:19 pm #

            Dr, Tom
            Yes, indeed. There always seems to be a logical reason for the outrages we see, and if there is not one, it will be divined from thin air…such as Confederate Statues, hoodies, cultural appropriation. I wish I had your positive outlook…I suffer the vagaries of old age regarding my worldview.

            Now if the Cubbies could only win the Superbowl….

  6. seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 9:53 am #

    Very insightful analogy comparing doctor’s waiting rooms with local DMV’s. Those “providers” now have the second biggest racket of them all, proceeded only by war. I was down in the local pub the other day when I realized something. I looked around and realized those people I saw marching in Charlottesville holding tiki torches and chanting “Jews will not replace us,” looked just like the young white guys in the bar. Exactly like them. Look around you people. The Nazis are everywhere. It was an mordant epiphany.

    • DrTomSchmidt August 21, 2017 at 10:04 am #

      Except that DMV has been fixed in NY State. I haven’t waited more than 5 minutes in my last few visits there. And their registration renewal is a breeze.

      Government, amazingly, has gotten better in that area. The medical rackets infinitely worse.

      • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 10:21 am #

        Not in Louisiana and Texas. Every trip is over an hour, the longest pushing two. In Louisiana 1/2 the time they get it wrong and it needs to be redone. Mistaken trailer type or body type or something. They’ve got every mistake in the book down like bartender retorts. There is only one reason to make people wait that long: To preserve those menial jobs. It could be streamlined, but those people would be gone.

        • elysianfield August 21, 2017 at 11:43 am #

          In California, in the 70’s, they had armed security at DMV’s in the Bay Area to maintain order.

          • chuckyzfr1 August 23, 2017 at 8:11 am #

            They have armed guards in VA DMV’s now. I used to own a small auto/motorcycle dealership, and on the occasions where I couldn’t send one of my hapless employees, and had to go there myself, it never failed to amaze me at their incompetence, sloth, and apathy.

            And when they say “I’m sorry sir, I can’t do that…” they’re fucking lying. They can literally do anything from their little terminal. I once had a DMV troll print me out a motorcycle title with a 19-digit VIN. (VIN’s have been 17 digits since around the mid 80’….)

            I had a cute girl working for me who was the main DMV-goer. She established a rapport with the trolls at the nearest DMV and would routinely accomplish things that would have otherwise seemed impossible. I think the DMV model is an excellent proxy for government ineptness in many other areas.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

        Tom, could you give Seawolf a tentative diagnosis?

        • DrTomSchmidt August 21, 2017 at 5:10 pm #

          My guess is that expenses are so high inNew York that streamlining the process made sense. In places like LA and TX where labor costs are lower, there’s no driving need to cut labor costs as much.

          Keeping labor costs high leads to progress, I guess.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 5:17 pm #

            No, pertaining to your competence and in regards to his person!

        • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 6:49 pm #

          I’m Southern. Oh the humanity, the humanity.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 7:07 pm #

            A regular Truman Capote no doubt

    • Sean Coleman August 21, 2017 at 12:06 pm #

      “I looked around and realized those people I saw marching in Charlottesville… looked just like the young white guys in the bar.”

      No should get that checked out.

      • lbs August 21, 2017 at 2:30 pm #

        Yeah, unless those right wing clowns dress up in uniforms, you can’t necessarily tell them from decent people.

        In contrast, you can tell the leftist goons by lack of personal hygiene, including carrying urine around in bottles.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

      Almost all White guys are Nazis, even when not carrying tikis. Seawolf, you are in danger! Beware of Whites wearing Khakis and sports shirts. Good Whites wear jeans.

      • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 6:48 pm #

        Hey the motto of the Catholic Church, “No child’s behind left.” You Nazi’s are cut from the same bolt of cloth. How come? Why are there so many homosexuals in the Nazi regime. Hell there’s an even special night called appropriately “The Night of the Long Knives” where they killed an entire contingency of Nazi fags. What about it Janos? What exactly is in the ethos of national socialism that makes you want to suck dicks and get buggared? I find it very amusing. Priests and Nazis and Donald Trump. Like an Snickers and Oreo pizza huh?

        • elysianfield August 21, 2017 at 7:23 pm #

          Wolfie,
          Just think about it…”How can it be so wrong, if it feels so good?”

        • capt spaulding August 21, 2017 at 10:10 pm #

          Seawolf, if you want a good laugh google Alt Furries. You know, Furries are guys who like to dress up in animal costumes & have gay sex. Well some of them wear nazi style armbands while they have gay sex (they call it “yiffing”). You can see photos of them on google images. There’s even a gay Alt Furrie erotic novel available on Amazon & honest to god, it’s called THE FURRED REICH. You can’t make this shit up.

          • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 8:46 am #

            Too funny. I bet Janos makes one hell of a furry, and does one hell of a jungle boogie.

  7. DrTomSchmidt August 21, 2017 at 9:58 am #

    The convulsions over President Trump’s vivid clowning are just a symptom of the concealed rot eating away at the foundations of American life. What they demonstrate most of all is the failure of this society’s sensory organs — the news media — to ascertain what is actually happening to us. And the recognition of that failure accounts for the current state of the media’s disrepute, even if its critics are doing a poor job of articulating it.

    Careful, JHK, that sounds like sympathy for the people opposed to the media narrative. In Human Smoke, Nicholson Baker recounts the tale of a some Jews who backed the Nazi party as a way of hedging their bets. So being Jewish won’t protect you from the lynch mob, since it’s not inconceivable that a Jew could support Nazis. Or even “Nazis.”

    The fact is, TPTB do NOT want anyone looking at the collapse that the media wants to ignore.

    • City_of_76 August 21, 2017 at 6:20 pm #

      Is it really true that nothing about systemic failures have been mentioned by “the powers that be” or “main stream media”? Haven’t there been stories told on television about climate disruption, increasing storms and drought, famine, sea level rise?

      Broadcast networks and cable television have a structural flaw: they are expensive operations; inevitably, coverage is influenced by the need to generate advertising dollars.

      We know you can make vast amounts of money selling fantasies, and television is an incredibly powerful tool for doing exactly that. The commercial purveyors of T.V. air time will never do much to move society toward a better relationship with our environment — the money doesn’t follow.

      The big picture, of how we’ve come to understand our systemic failures, is more complex than many people can make room for in their brains. The changes required to manage our decline sound like being told that they can’t get all the nice things they’ve wanted, and that life (which already seems hard) is likely to get a lot harder.

      A lot of Americans resist that message when it comes up, unless they’ve been reached by good teachers (of all kinds) who dispel them of the fantasies promoted on television.

      • DrTomSchmidt August 22, 2017 at 5:45 pm #

        I’ve long assumed that the climate change push, based on rising CO2, was in some sense TPTB’s effort to deal with peak oil. If we cut down carbon emissions because we are sacrificing to save the planet it means that we do it out of love for where we live. If we do it because we HAVE to and there is no choice, people might notice there’s something wrong with the system.

        Peak oil (and soon peak coal) means our carbon emissions will go down, no matter what steps we take. We may not even need to take any steps to have carbon emissions drop. It won’t take away from the fact that we cannot pay off debts which rise exponentially while resources to pay them rise geometrically or linearly (or, God help us, go down). It won’t change the fact that a larger and larger share of the population has no meaningful role in the modern economy, since there are fewer and fewer positions that society values enough to pay a living wage.

        We haven’t heard this from the Media. We’ve heard that unemployment is 4.3% or some absurd number, while ignoring the collapse in the percentage of the working age population that is even seeking employment (about 5% of the populace, I’d guess about 12 million people.) Trump exploited this difference between what the media said and what people’s lying eyes told them. Had Obama actually thrown a few Wall Streeters in jail, as JHK has consistently complained, those voters might have rung up in the D column.

        You’re right about Americans resisting the message: the reality of it all is depressing.

  8. Dumbedup August 21, 2017 at 10:02 am #

    Speaking of health insurance rackets: my wife works in a doctor’s office and handles the billing. She has told me some stories that have curled my hair.

    1) One of the local hospitals has a special health insurance plan through a large insurer for its employees, and the hospital corporation negotiated a condition which says that providers who are not part of their “alliance” are out of network. You have to pay to be part of their so-called alliance.

    2) Recently, a major insurer admitted that they had underpaid some claims over the last year. Instead of re-processing those claims they are going to make it up this coming year by paying more. It is up to the doctor whether to bill last year’s patients for the difference. But here’s the kicker. What if the patients this coming year (2018) have not met their deductible or have different co-pays? It’s not like they are seeing all the same patients.

    • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 11:24 am #

      Rent-seekers gonna seek rent.

      • Dumbedup August 21, 2017 at 7:50 pm #

        #1 violates the Clayton and Sherman Acts.

        #2 may be fraud, but it is at least an unfair claims/trade practice.

        They are above the law.

  9. Ron Anselmo August 21, 2017 at 10:04 am #

    “the failure of this society’s sensory organs – the news media – to ascertain what is actually happening to us”

    The failure is likely intentional, the news media being complicit by omission.

    • Anon1970 August 21, 2017 at 12:08 pm #

      There were nine homicides in Chicago this past weekend and nine the prior weekend. None of them were covered by the national media.

      • Ron Anselmo August 21, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

        Amen. Complicit by omission, at best. Guilty by commission, at worst.

      • City_of_76 August 21, 2017 at 6:27 pm #

        What are you saying? Is 9 a wonderfully low number of homicides, and it should be celebrated that the homicide rate is trending down?

        Tell us more why this number of shootings is news worthy of national attention.

        Why is homicide in Chicago important to the national conversation? I’m not saying it is or isn’t, but clarify your statements please.

  10. Pucker August 21, 2017 at 10:21 am #

    I miss the Jerry Lewis Muscular Dystrophy Telethon. It was always “A Hoot”.

    • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 10:25 am #

      I thought it was kind of creepy myself.

      • elysianfield August 21, 2017 at 12:14 pm #

        “I thought it was kind of creepy myself.”

        Wolfie,
        It WAS creepy…in the waning hours, Jerry Lewis became Buddy Love…I did loath that meme….

    • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

      I loved it when the money wasn’t coming in on schedule. Jerry would get angry and pathetic and go into his retard act – which was slightly funny he was twenty, but utterly grotesque at eighty.

      • DA August 21, 2017 at 2:23 pm #

        He was acting?

      • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 6:40 pm #

        Great recall! I am impressed. If you were from New Orleans, you’d a surely known “Morgus: The Magnificent.” God he did the best retard… no one retards like Jerry Lewis, RIP. Heaven for Jerry must be packed with genuine retards drooling over him, moaning and groaning in ignorance and bliss. Karmic punishment for crimes against humanity.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 7:09 pm #

          The French consider him a genius. No doubt you are of French descent.

          • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 7:52 pm #

            I am laughing out loud… and now choking.

          • capt spaulding August 21, 2017 at 10:28 pm #

            The French, they are a funny race. They fight with their feet & fuck with their face.

  11. Bro Jobe August 21, 2017 at 10:32 am #

    “the single most important rule in Glass-Steagall, which required the separation of commercial banking from trafficking in securities”

    I’ve mentioned this to JHK before, but back when Clinton signed the repeal, a friend worked in the then-new field of online banking, for a regional bank since devoured by Suntrust of Atlanta.

    The day after the repeal, a soon-to-retire older banker had coffee with my friend. The old guy, the sort who still wore a hat to work, told my friend something along these lines: “this is going to lead to wild speculation and then a big Crash. Our bank will start gambling in stocks. Banks for consumers are supposed to be stodgy, to be careful. I’m going to retire.”

    Nothing in the financial industry, save perhaps the rise of derivatives, has been so injurious to our economy. I want a boring consumer bank again, not a bunch of cowboys herding us off the next cliff.

    • GhostOfHam August 21, 2017 at 4:38 pm #

      And now that the reset to another non-dollar world reserve currency is coming on-line with the ACC & SDR all assets — which will include YOU & your labor potential — will be on the electronic virtual trading floor for instantaneous swaps and tranches. It will happen and you might not even see it. But even the clerk of the county courts holding property titles will derivate your tiny-puny public life as they hire out financial agencies to manage, profit, and collateralize the new regime with assets you thought were yours.

      What is a collapse that is organized and planed?

  12. seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 10:32 am #

    I have to say I am a little disappointed by Jim’s refusal to acknowledge that Tesla’s combination of solar tiles coupled with their electric car does in fact represent an alternative to the happy motoring paradigm he so reviles. Imagine a virtually noiseless, smell less highway where all cars are electric and the only things burning fossil fuels are semi’s and other large trucks. Then imagine all that solar energy being utilized. Then imagine fail safe automatic driving cars. No more accidents. No more DWI’s. The day is coming when people will no longer motor themselves, but will be motored. That is what made “Star Wars” so ridiculous on its face: There are still pilots?

    • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 10:52 am #

      Imagine not having to worry, that your child paying out in front of your house, should she forget and venture a little too far, would be met with certain death?
      We’ve created communities where it is unsafe for children, the elderly, and the infirm to venture farther than their own block, and no one seems to notice.
      Imagine perhaps a lighter, golf cart-type vehicle to get around in, one that didn’t kill your pets.

    • Farmer McGregor August 21, 2017 at 10:54 am #

      So… what energy are they going to use to mine all the necessary materials for the solar tiles and vehicles — especially the batteries — then refine/transport/manufacture them into all those nifty pilot-less fantasies?

      Resource depletion isn’t limited to petro; read Ugo Bardi’s work.

      Star Wars would have been boring if it had been all drone warfare. Even ol’ Vader himself got into a fighter occasionally…

      • benr August 23, 2017 at 2:32 pm #

        Don’t even look at exactly how toxic the manufacturing process is for Solar panels and the batteries to store the power!

    • James Howard Kunstler August 21, 2017 at 10:56 am #

      Seawolf– You’re going to be very disappointed how this all works out. Unless ypu’re joking. — JHK

      • RIB August 21, 2017 at 4:35 pm #

        Anybody see Seawolf and Janet in a room together?

        • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 6:36 pm #

          I hope she’s not a guy hiding under a handle. I did that once. I took a writing course and the work I submitted was followed with courteous comments and insightful observations. Everybody loved my work. The next course I took I reverted back to my more normal “dick” self. Everybody universally loathed my work and eventually I was throw out of the class. I guess it’s true. You do catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

          • elysianfield August 21, 2017 at 7:27 pm #

            “You do catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.”

            Wolfie,

            True, but if you pull their wings off, you can make them eat anything you want….

      • BackRowHeckler August 21, 2017 at 9:01 pm #

        They’ll be able to string this ‘Electric Car’ meme, as well as the driverless car meme, for a long time, maybe decades. Breakthroughs and success will always be right around the corner, and by the time people figure out its just a lot off bullshit, they’ll have moved on to something else. My guess it will be a plan to colonize Mars.

        brh

      • trolleybill August 21, 2017 at 9:22 pm #

        I concur as the price and affordability to purchase a car on credit will be steep. So many people with poor credit are stuck with high interest rates to obtain a vehicle needed to get to work as so many live in the suburbs and X-burbs that have no public transit available

        Timing could not have been worse with the affordable vehicle coming on just as the interurban was designing the landscape. Cleveland Ohio developed a rapid transit light rail that ran from Shaker Hts to downtown and ran mostly in a culvert so vehicle traffic went over and along side. They had a contest to see who traveled the farthest to Downtown and a secretary came in by Conrail from Youngstown to Cleveland weekdays

      • Petro August 23, 2017 at 10:15 am #

        Always interesting to see which reader posts JHK makes the effort to respond to—a rare event.

    • robert magill August 21, 2017 at 11:22 am #

      In a truly green equation the buyer of the new Tesla is required to junk, totally demolish the old car or it simply passes down the food chain and offsets the ‘feel good’ purchase.

      • chuckyzfr1 August 23, 2017 at 8:27 am #

        That’s utterly ridiculous. It’s the cash for clunkers mentality. To literally destroy valuable, complex, manufactured durable goods and during economically troubled times no less. It was one of the most misguided policies that came out of the previous administration. I was so furious when it was going on, that I reached out to an old economics professor to bounce my ideas off him and see if I was on sound footing. He’s a well respected economist with a specialization in transportation, and oft-quoted by big media We wound up commiserating about what a colossal folly it was.

        • benr August 23, 2017 at 2:35 pm #

          I had a terrible time finding a decent used car for my kid!
          It is still hard to find a decent 10 year old car for an affordable price…thanks Obama you dunce.

    • JimInFlorida August 21, 2017 at 11:26 am #

      seawolf, do you have ANY idea of the harsh conditions that roads must endure? PV solar panels MUST have UNOBSTRUCTED exposure to the Sun in order to work! Even when there are no cars over them, there will be DUST and DEBRIS that will cover the solar panel roads.

      Roads are currently manufactured with petroleum waste from the bottom of cracking towers and mixed with low-quality sand and fine gravel. A VERY efficient use of waste materials.

      A solar road panel would require highly refined materials that requires an ENORMOUS up front investment of energy to make. As materials are refined, waste is CREATED and such waste cannot be reused. It has to be dumped.

      When current roads need patching, you can send out a couple of GED-educated laborers with a bucket of asphalt and a tamper to fix it. With a solar road, it will be a MAJOR PRODUCTION. You’ll need highly paid techs to remove the broken panel and reinstall a new one. You’ll not only have Diminishing Returns but NEGATIVE RETURNS on a solar road. The LOWEST LEVEL of TECHNOLOGY required to serve a need, or address a problem, is always the best.

      Solar panel roads are the kind of sophomoric idea that a bored teenager in class would daydream about. It only reveals that Elon Musk is an IDIOT with way too much money (and lucky money at that).

      The LOWEST LEVEL of TECHNOLOGY required to serve a need, or address a problem, is always the best. The 80/20 Rule has never failed or been proven wrong. Going beyond that rapidly puts one on the curve to Diminishing Returns.

      • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 11:30 am #

        The solar panels are located on your home’s roof. Who said anything about solar roads?

        • JimInFlorida August 21, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

          My apologies seawolf. You didn’t talk about solar roads. PV solar panels on roofs is perfectly feasible.

          However, I HAVE seen such ideas that incorporate solar collectors on, or next to, the roads!

          I got triggered prematurely. Sorry.

          • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

            No problemo.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 11:44 am #

        I see you points, Jim, but there is also a lot to be said about the dreamers who don’t confine their thinking of what is currently possible. That’s a mind trap.
        Yes, solar panels for roads are not presently feasible. I wonder which of our modern advances didn’t spring from a bored young person’s daydreaming at some point?
        Solar power is a thing. Right now, the thing has limitations. We’ve yet to fully explore those limits, however.
        I remember how frustrating it was, back when I was having to use a computer at work for things it would have been easier and faster to do by hand.
        Would we ever have gotten to the point of the speedy, efficient DMV referenced above, if we didn’t start using the clunky, inefficient technology?
        The lowest level of technology to serve a need depends on what the need is.

    • lbs August 21, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

      Seawolf, I wish your techno boosterism were based in science, I would love nothing better than to have a world in harmony living off solar energy.

      There are unfortunately some major show stoppers. Intermittency, and the stubborn hostility of the laws of physics toward being able to build an affordable, environmentally friendly, light weight, high capacity battery.

      • JimInFlorida August 21, 2017 at 5:49 pm #

        The only way an intermittent source of power can be useful where demand is constant is to have VAST energy storage systems to even out delivery. Also, different types of intermittent power sources would be needed to feed into a common energy storage system.

        But, where the scales of demand are fragmented by many small consumers, it is better for each residence to have its own wind-solar generation system and battery storage. The majority would be semi-independent systems that connect to the grid ONLY to recharge the battery as needed. Grid-tie systems should be outlawed as they already cause a lot of problems when they feed back too much power into the grid. They can be retrofitted to supplying a battery that feeds the house and only connects to the grid for recharge.

        The grid, itself, can be greatly downsized when energy production is generated at the point of use. A LOT of energy is lost in the current matrix of central generation and long distance distribution.

        If most end users generate 90% of their electric needs on site, then the grid itself could be powered by a huge centralized solar-wind-battery hub. That means the backstop power supply could be fueled by COAL. We wouldn’t need to import any more oil and the coal used wouldn’t be enough to cause a meaningful amount of air pollution.

        It’s technically and financially feasible. All that is lacking is the political WILL to make it happen. That’s because certain political interests i.e. Big Oil, Wall Street, and certain rentiers would argue that it can’t work.

    • GhostOfHam August 21, 2017 at 4:57 pm #

      “Then imagine fail safe automatic driving cars. No more accidents.”

      Less accidents than now, perhaps, but accident will continue to occur.

      A company that produces the vehicles (autonomous transportation robots) will not likely have 100% failsafe products or product insurance. Quality control and risk management will expect and accept a certain amount of death and destruction of consenting users with the remedy paid in the currency of the district.

    • DrTomSchmidt August 21, 2017 at 5:33 pm #

      Of course asphalt is a byproduct of oil refining,so as gasoline demand drops, the amount of available asphalt will concurrently drop, and rise in price.

      Now, steel will still be made with coal, and we have plenty of coal. So maybe local transport is done via electric bikes at low speed, and long distance via steel rails at high speed?

      There are a tremendous amount of negawatts out there to save, and saving them will take human ingenuity and effort, usually with no rare earth metals required.

    • GhostOfHam August 21, 2017 at 7:49 pm #

      “Then imagine fail safe automatic driving cars. No more accidents. No more DWI’s.”

      One is never going to eliminate the corporate risk and it’s assessments between software functionality and failure in commerce where profit is contrasted with the harm that is potentially caused to a third party who agrees to use the device or service. One can get close to zero, but it can never be zero. It’s factored in.

      The cars will no longer be cars as you see them. They will become robotic transportation devices (robots) driven by ever changing software and that software will have bugs which crash.

  13. akmofo August 21, 2017 at 10:41 am #

    The problem in the US is not for lack of energy resources. Never was, so that’s total nonsense. The problem in the US is the lack of ethical and moral standards. There’s no Law and no culture of ethical behavior, just corruption and hypocrisy. But all will be forgiven by Ceasar’s Messiah — Not!

    • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 10:47 am #

      What is amazing is how they sold it to us. This shining paragon of virtue when we really did off the backs of black slaves and the graves of American Indians. America has never been good. This bitch has been bad from the beginning. FOX NEWS has brain washed an entire generation of Americans. It’s like the Hitler youth. As soon as they grew up, it was time for war. Unfortunately I think we’re there.

      • capt spaulding August 21, 2017 at 11:08 am #

        What hasn’t been brainwashed by Fox News, has been brainwashed by the PC crowd now in the universities. Whatever happened to common sense? It appears that all we have left to live by are extremes.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 5:26 pm #

          So if minorities vote that you have to go back to Europe or else, what then? You are so eager to give away our power, forgetting that it’s yours too. As will be our subsequent weakness.

      • akmofo August 21, 2017 at 11:19 am #

        Yeah, but what did YOU and your generation Do to make it better? What did YOU and your generation DO to get any Indians or Blacks off the reservation? They’re still in the Ghetto, as are the Jews and Italians and Poles, etc. Some have better kept gates and shrubbery as Ghetto walls, but Ghettos is all that YOU managed to build. And then you ask “where are my people?” What people are YOU?

        • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 11:56 am #

          I don’t see any Poles and Jews and Italians in ghettos where I live. We have been happily intermingled for over half a century.
          The “black” neighborhood, when I was growing up, was still a majority-white neighborhood, and most of the black people I grew up with moved up and out.
          Without my help, btw.
          We passed the Civil Rights Act, but up here it didn’t have the same impact.
          My Indian friends never were on the reservation.
          I don’t know what you are talking about, quite frankly.

          • akmofo August 21, 2017 at 12:50 pm #

            @ Beryl of Oyl

            With the exception of New York, there’s very little intermingling. In many parts of the Southwest you will not see a single black soul. In the Southeast you will not see a single white soul in black neighborhoods. The poverty of the Indians is a complete disgrace. And gated communities are just fancy ghettos.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 2:08 pm #

            And it’s fine that one sees no Blacks. That’s what diversity means: different places are different. So if you don’t like one place, you can go find somewhere you do. But your “diversity” mean making everyplace the same – and ultimately every one too: Tan Man, the U.N ideal.

        • messianicdruid August 21, 2017 at 12:14 pm #

          “Yeah, but what did YOU and your generation Do to make it better?”

          30 to 50% of income going to taxes ain’t enough? I’m supposed to build them mansions while my people live in trailer houses? The problem is not here, it is there.

          • akmofo August 21, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

            @ messianicdruid

            You lie!

            None of YOU confessed nazis pay any income taxes. If you did, you’d be at work now instead of freeloading and thieving on this Jew blog, all day every day.

          • messianicdruid August 21, 2017 at 8:32 pm #

            @akmofo – You are a piece of work, not even good at projection [ way over the top ].

          • messianicdruid August 22, 2017 at 8:20 am #

            “Almost all White guys are Nazis, even when not carrying tikis.”

            This is Janos’ confession, certainly not mine.

          • akmofo August 22, 2017 at 8:49 am #

            @ messianicdruid

            Projection? Pffft! I’m here only because I’m on temp sick leave after surgery. What’s your excuse?

          • messianicdruid August 22, 2017 at 6:28 pm #

            So, you’ll be leaving?

          • akmofo August 23, 2017 at 8:13 am #

            @ messianicdruid

            Maybe when you stop with your lying propaganda I won’t have reason to be here. So yeah, how much exactly did you and your Nazi pals pay in income taxes? What did you say: 30-50%. Janos Skorenzy should erect a god stutue of you for him to worship. After all, it’s an amazing feat you accomplished. Freeloading here all day every day and magically also holding a job with an income that requires you to pay 30-50% in income tax.

        • JimInFlorida August 21, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

          Don’t blame Whites akmofo or even insinuate it. White liberals and do-gooders put Obama in office TWICE and HE was supposed to be the Messiah to make things right.

          NOT ONCE did Obama address the Fort Laramie Treaties of 1851 and 1868. Not ONCE did Obama declare that those treaties would be honored in full and Washington’s betrayal of trust would be remedied.

          WHO moved all the industrial jobs over to the Corporate Promised Land of China? It wasn’t Joe Six-Pack and his White Goy cousins.

          What I’m bowing up over is the unspoken DEMAND that beleaguered Whites of the Bottom 80% be shaken down for what the Top 1% have done.

          Our Living Space has been stolen from us. Our Social Space has been invaded. Our Schools have been ruined. All for the sake of Jewish social engineering schemes. We’ve already paid and we’re NOT paying any more!

          • capt spaulding August 21, 2017 at 2:03 pm #

            Well Jimin, if you wanna blame people for electing Obama, at least have the balls to accept the blame for voting George W in twice. He and his Republicans almost destroyed the country with their anti-regulation policies, among other idiotic things. And now we have “The Donald”, who is probably capable of finishing the job started by the Republicans. The only reason the country put a black man in as President was because Bush & his buddies fucked things up so badly. I’m no Obama fan, but I know fucked up when I see it. It’s the reason I stay on this website, and support it. Kunstler sees the same shit I see, and he comments remarkably well on the repercussions. I don’t have the same command of English that JHK does, but I agree with 90% of what he is saying. At least half of the people on here are so wrapped up in their own beliefs that they are incapable of seeing the truth of what is happening without filtering it through their own belief systems. Me, I don’t give a shit about the right or left, what I want to know is the truth of what’s going on, and what I’m seeing is not good. At the same time, I’m smart enough to see the end approaching, and prepare myself accordingly. The one thing that remains consistent is that “I do not suffer fools gladly”.

          • akmofo August 21, 2017 at 2:13 pm #

            Why would I blame Whites? I blame the Vatican/CIA mafia. These are the people who cynically put Obama in office. Like Trump today, Obama was surrounded by this mafia. There was no chance of disobedience, even if ever he wanted to. Everyone knows and understands the lesson of the Kennedy assassinations. And it’s not Jews handing Knight of Malta Crosses to their gov mafia agents, and it’s not to Jerusalem that the Presidential candidates travel to for approval of the Pope.

          • JimInFlorida August 21, 2017 at 3:14 pm #

            My hands are clean Capt. S. I didn’t vote for Lord Bush and Viceroy Cheney.

            I started voting Third Party for POTUS back in 1992 and voted for Ross Perot.
            In 1996, I voted for Pat Buchanan.
            In 2000, I voted for Pat Buchanan.
            In 2004, I voted for Ralph Nader.
            In 2008, I voted for Chuck Baldwin.
            In 2012, I voted for *gasp* Obama BECAUSE the 3rd Party candidates were ALL WORTHLESS. Plus, Mittens Romney was so disgusting that I was willing to put the Kenyan back in.
            In 2016, I voted for Darrel Castle.

          • outsider August 21, 2017 at 3:17 pm #

            JimInFla,
            Obama deserves a lot of criticism. He didn’t live up to anyone’s expectations. Still, I’m glad that he beat crazy “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” McCain in 2008. But he ruined his Presidency when he installed that witch Hillary as SOS – “we came, we saw, he died.”

      • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

        Welcome to the real world. Name a country that isn’t like that. All Land is Sword Land. Most of the Indian tribes were certainly like that. The Africans too of course – as well as being full participants in the slave trade.

        Sweden never had a Colonial Empire of course, but you people just invent other reason why they have to be destroyed – because they’re White for example. Or used to be Christian. Or just part of evil Western Culture – White again.

        • BlueStater August 21, 2017 at 2:02 pm #

          Well, the Swedes actually did have a colonial empire of sorts — the south coast of the Baltic Sea from roughly Gdansk to St. Petersburg (before St P was founded, of course).

        • DrTomSchmidt August 21, 2017 at 5:38 pm #

          The Swedes founded Delaware, Janos.

      • malthuss August 21, 2017 at 4:18 pm #

        WE NEVER OWNED ANY SLAVES AND NO AMERICAN BLACKS PICK COTTON.

      • benr August 23, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

        As a person with a Cherokee heritage I demand you leave my country now.
        Go back from whence your ancestors came from!

  14. Gonga Din August 21, 2017 at 11:00 am #

    Don’t even think about the long term effects of Ritalin, and what have you addling the minds of our youth. It’s likely not what the statues signify, but the statues themselves that have taken on personification that is troubling. They, the statues, just stand around on campus looking, not saying anything, and being judgemental. If only the statues could Instagram, everything would be cool.

    • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

      I go past the local high school, and I see the “drug free zone” signs. Ironic, because half the kids are on Adderall, and there is meth in that stuff.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 1:01 pm #

      The statues represent our Godly and God like ancestors. They are judging – unfavorably. All in the mind? Of course. Just in the mind? There’s nothing “just” about the mind. Obviously we are being judged by our own higher faculties and found wanting.

      • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 8:25 am #

        Dr. Foner said that after the war, Lee did not support rights for black citizens, such as the right to vote, and was largely silent about violence perpetrated by white supremacists during Reconstruction.

        The general did, however, object to the idea of raising Confederate monuments, writing in 1869 that it would be wiser “not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife.”

      • akmofo August 23, 2017 at 7:58 am #

        “The statues represent our Godly and God like ancestors”

        That’s disgusting. Your disgusting need to deify flawed men (and in most cases, seriously flawed men) is something I will never understand. You’re worse than African blacks. At least their god statues are abstract cosmological creations.

  15. sprawlcapital August 21, 2017 at 11:08 am #

    Wasn’t it the saintly Bill Clinton who led the drive to repeal Glass-Steagall? Anyway, Jim, a brilliant one-paragraph summary of why Dodd-Frank is such a disaster.

    Regarding health “care”, calling it that and not “medical treatment” is a strategic misuse of language by the marketing department of the health care provider empire. “Care” is such a warm, comforting word. Who could be against care?

    In fact, the main reason the medical industry can be called “caring” is that they care about money.

    • JimInFlorida August 21, 2017 at 11:45 am #

      You HAVE to go back to the HMO Act of 1973 to understand the deep core of why “health care” is so dysfunctional today. One must then study and contemplate the concept of medical care under the paradigm of FDR’s New Deal.

      In the briefest of nutshells, medical care under the New Deal paradigm was regarded as a dividend of modern progress, not a commodity to be sold to the highest bidder. It was delivered for the purpose of public health and public sanitation. Because patients paid the doctor directly in cash, there were very few middlemen between the doctor and patient. The morality of the time compelled medicine to be delivered for social good.

      Under the HMO Act, medical care was turned completely on its head. Instead of a trustworthy institution serving the Public Good, it became a commodity and delivered through a profit-driven business model. Health Care became just another business racket which used income flows to leverage financial paper. In order to kite that paper and pay off rentiers, the expenses were passed off to insurance companies. They also floated that paper through insurance premiums while skimming off their share.

      Until that is addressed, it is impossible to fix health care.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

        The HMO seemed to be based on the concept that the whole problem with health care was people insisting on going to the doctor, and they were doing everything in their power to prevent that from happening.
        What’s wrong with wanting to see a doctor?

        • JimInFlorida August 21, 2017 at 1:01 pm #

          The HMO was created to relieve the State from any burden of ensuring the supply of quality medical care and turned that burden over to private cartels. Seeing a doctor was a LOT EASIER before the HMO’s!

          Before HMO’s, medical care was regulated to serve the Public Health. Profits were collected to pay the doctors, staff, and to maintain the hospitals. They were NOT collected to pay rentiers or float financial paper.

          The patient paid the doctor directly and hospitals only charged what it actually cost to provide the care received. VERY FEW people couldn’t afford to get care. Most of them used home remedies which were still well known and useful.

          So, under the cover of serving the poorest, the entire medical establishment was turned into the perfect racket.

          I remember when the HMO Act was passed and the dire warnings of surrendering medical care to the caprices of the market. Those warnings all came to pass and the later consequences even surpassed those fears.

      • sprawlcapital August 21, 2017 at 1:03 pm #

        A very informative comment, Jim in FL. I can find no chinks in the armor of your reasoning. (No racial slur intended.)

      • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 2:52 pm #

        I thought it was Senator Pat McCarran on Nevada, who granted them an anti-trust exemption. He was also the model for Senator Pat Geary in the movie “Godfather 2.” In fact Senator Harry Reid is trying to get his statue torn down for this very reason.

        • SpeedyBB August 23, 2017 at 12:51 am #

          Wow you mean he woke up in a Nevada cathouse bathed in blood with a dead hooker beside him?

  16. Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 11:20 am #

    I wonder why Bernie isn’t yelling about the DWS scandal. After all, she done him wrong when he tried running as the alternative to the corruption that is the DNC.
    He seems curiously uninterested in seeing that corruption, which he experienced firsthand, exposed and cleaned up.
    Could this be because of the ‘leverage’ the Democrats have on him? I thought the ‘leverage’ had to do with the financial improprieties his wife committed when she helped run that college into the ground. That cat’s out of the bag, so it must be something else.
    It looks, at this point, like the Democrats were paying the Awan family to dig up dirt on the Democrats, and perhaps they sold data they stole to foreign governments.
    You’d think the topnotch genius investigative reporters at the NYT would be all over this story.

    • elysianfield August 21, 2017 at 12:20 pm #

      “I wonder why Bernie isn’t yelling about the DWS scandal”

      Beryl,
      He is a good soldier, and well compensated….

      • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 12:49 pm #

        He sold out the idealistic young people who backed him. I’m no longer surprised by the depths of depravity that the dregs of the Democratic Party will sink to. But Bernie wasn’t a Democrat.

        • aibohphobia August 21, 2017 at 5:25 pm #

          Bernie is NOT a democrat. Exactly. Bernie might be waiting for the next election, when it may be possible to run and win on a straight Socialist line after the two major parties have destroyed each other–or merged…

        • JimInFlorida August 21, 2017 at 6:29 pm #

          Beryl, Bernie wasn’t the only sell-out. Ross Perot and Ron Paul had huge organic support but, were blackmailed to take a fall. However, Bernie’s betrayal was the Last Straw. We’ve all seen too many promising 3rd Party candidates either railroaded or told to, “take a fall.” There’s no hope in 3rd Parties because of that.

          Obama was the psy-op betrayal to the grassroots Left. Trump is the psy-op betrayal to the grassroots Right. By design, We Teh Serfs have no more options and thus, we are no longer represented. The dried and moldy husk of the Constitution will be discarded and nobody will notice the difference.

          We were defacto Slaves until Lord Bush and Viceroy Cheney literally took away our habeas corpus rights and sold us. Both our corporate identities (your name in ALL CAPS) and our organic Persons were sold to foreign central banks and private cartels.

          As DEJURE SLAVES now, we are no longer entitled to be represented and we are no longer covered by the Bill of Rights. Our votes don’t count and the past three POTUS elections proved it. Corrupt courts have thrown out the Bill of Rights in trials and now ALL of them can.

          ON THE BOOKS, we are under a psychopathic tyranny that would make Kim Jong Un cringe! The ONLY THING that holds back the full fury of what’s potentially possible is that We Teh Slaves are still useful to TPTB but, that usefulness is declining rapidly.

          Bernie’s sell out was the symptom of truly psychopathic evil that rules the Top 0.1%. Death is the only cure for such people.

  17. Elrond Hubbard August 21, 2017 at 11:27 am #

    Are these the end times? Behold the wonders and signs.

    • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 11:48 am #

      Your hyperlink takes you to the 404.

      • Elrond Hubbard August 21, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

        Forgot the http:// incantation.

        i.redd.it/xgtq9yqpw2hz.jpg

        • DA August 21, 2017 at 4:41 pm #

          +1 for creativity anyway.

          • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 7:28 pm #

            Actually stole it from Tom Petty’s “American Girl” :
            It was kind of cold that night
            She stood alone on her balcony
            She could the cars roll by
            Out on 441
            Like waves crashin’ in the beach
            And for one desperate moment there
            He crept back in her memory
            God it’s so painful
            Something that’s so close
            And still so far out of reach

    • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 1:19 pm #

      Don’t look at the Sun, Elrond. It hates you.

  18. Kevvia Knack August 21, 2017 at 11:43 am #

    Bill Clinton didn’t exactly lead the drive to overturn Glass-Steagall. It happened on his watch and I’m not defending him but the truth is it was a long drawn out process that began in the 1980s or maybe late 1970s in fits and starts. The key movers were primarily Republican bankers and politicians, many of whom who were part of Reagan’s kitchen cabinet who got him elected. Clinton and a lot of other Democrats and Ivy League types went along for the ride….

    • volodya August 21, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

      There were dissenting voices and, after all, Clinton was POTUS and he could’ve said no. But he didn’t. If he was just along for the ride then his was an act of dereliction of duty.

      Or you can blame group-think. Or you can just take it as a likely result of the intellectual mind. Nobody is as full of shit as an intellectual, there’s nothing that’s so full of shit that an intellectual won’t be convinced of it.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

        Bill has claimed he did it because “the Republicans were going to do it anyway”. But Bill is known for lying with a straight face.
        The Clintons are still in the habit of blaming “Republicans” for everything, even though the Clintons have long since joined forces with the Bush dynasty.
        Bill repealed the Glass-Steagall Act because he was a globalist, and he had to know that damage it could do, but he also had to know who he was doing it for.
        Look how the Clintons have benefitted. Their useless fool of a daughter gets six-figure jobs other people’s kids have to work their butts off for, for a pittance.
        Right now that daughter and her husband are still living a lifestyle of the 1%, although neither of them has an actual job.
        The newest financial racket is the ‘book deal’. Chelsea has a book out, which she did not of course actually write, and it will not matter at all if it does not “earn back” the advance.

        “We have a saying in my family—it’s always better to get caught trying (rather than not try at all). I hope we can all get caught trying.
        This is a quote from an “open letter” Chelsea wrote to her readers. I kid you not. I’ll bet that is her family’s saying.

        • JimInFlorida August 21, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

          The Eisenhower-era tax code would make short work of the current Top 1%.

          The most dangerous enemies are not from without but, the avaricious from within. That 95% top tax rate was not so much for revenue but, to prevent the rise of a cancerous Top 1% who, historically, will always use ill-gotten gain to buy political power.

        • DA August 21, 2017 at 2:38 pm #

          You almost have to love the “lovable rogue Billy Bob Clinton.” An incorrigible and shameless crook and womanizer from his first breath until his last. Had his bitch wife shared his sense of mischievous bad boy humor she would have been unstoppable. Instead she made her keep with the DemFem liberal cunts with teeth brigade, and the rest will soon be history. History, because they won’t be the ones’ writing it.

          And Chelsea Hubbell’s just a moronic, soon to be forgotten, half-twit.

        • Linda August 22, 2017 at 7:17 pm #

          Good response, Beryl. I voted twice for Bill Clinton and have lived to regret it. Repealing Glass-Steagall, NAFTA, GATT, WTO, the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 200, and the list goes on. The Clintons are looters, grifters, and just plain crooks. Bush and Obama continued this behavior. And of course Reagan and Bush I, and here we are …

  19. volodya August 21, 2017 at 11:58 am #

    Complexity requires people who have the ability to deal with complexity. You have to be able to feed and maintain a massive administrative clerisy to understand the ins and outs and infinitely varied shades of gray in those 22,000 pages.

    Is the education system capable of producing such people? Of course, seeing as bankers are too big to jail, then why bother with a regulatory bureaucracy at all? Why go through the exercise of inscribing those 22,000 pages?

    Well it’s ALL for appearances sake. This isn’t being cynical. The question is never whether you’re wide of the mark because you’re cynical or TOO cynical, the question is always whether you’re being cynical enough.

    Given the Brazilianization of Washington, the intent of such a governmental edifice – complete with Roman-style buildings with Roman lettering to lend it an appearance of legitimacy and gravitas – would be to provide stress-free, work-free “jobs” to the political class.

    A warning: the laws of physics will not be mocked. Entropy brooks no dissent. Those imposing monuments will sink back into the malarial swamp that was Washington, the vast groupings of scribes that pretended to fulfil urgent governmental functions will be disbanded and those 22,000 pages will end up as ass-wipe in latrines.

  20. venuspluto67 August 21, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

    The US “healthcare” system is a lot like a smirking, leering, narcissistic Satan-worshipper in a black robe and hood: You only deal with them if you absolutely have to, and even then there’s a good chance you’ll get badly fucked over.

    • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 12:30 pm #

      We’ve passed peak medicine in this country.
      The healthcare industry has completely failed to make the transition from dealing with diseases of the developing world to dealing with diseases of modern society.
      If you go for treatment of a complaint related to the way we live now, they will try to treat you for something else.
      You are better off staying away, unless you have something they know how to treat.
      The trouble is, you will still be paying a substantial portion of your income for “access” to medical care that does not exist.

      • sprawlcapital August 23, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

        Beryl–

        I was fired by my primary care physician a few weeks ago. Reason: I am “non-compliant”, that is, I do not obey doctor’s orders very well.

        It’s ok. I was about to fire the good gentleman anyway. You see, about 18 months ago he tried to pressure me into going on insulin for my Type 2 diabetes. He said that would get me “fixed”, to use his unfortunate terminology. Trouble is, insulin injections do not cure the diabetes; they do not prolong the life of the diabetic; they do cause weight gain, which lowers the patient’s will to exercise; and they make some overpaid pharm executives and stockholders even richer.

        There are some interesting approaches that may actually cure Type 2. One that I am trying is intermittent fasting, which I started June 3. In this, I select a four hour window during which I take meals, and fast the other 20 hours each day. So far I have lost about 10 pounds and have had some good glucose readings. I do not test every day. (That’s one of my many areas of “non-compliance” with medical recommendations. )

        I will keep you all posted on how this goes, assuming I survive. So-called treatment for Type 2 diabetes is a multi-billion dollar industry, and, as Beryl says, the condition is totally caused by how we live today. I’m sure you all understand why the medical-industrial complex has no interest in a cure that does not involve drugs or doctors.

  21. volodya August 21, 2017 at 12:34 pm #

    Beryl, of course you’re right. What was that 150 million in speaking fees for? Giving speeches? Of course not.

    It was for two things. It was for ACCESS. Bill and Hillary have got high-level contacts all over the world and they have the ability to call people and have those people pick up the phone and listen to the sweet nothings the Clintons whisper in their ears. Of course the whispers aren’t sweet nothings, it’s all about favors and money. And if those people that cough up a quarter million for a speech happen to call Bill or Hill they will have every expectation that their call will be answered and if they ask Bill or Hill to talk to some high level functionary then Bill or Hill will be obliged to do so.

    The second thing all that money was for was as payment for a job well done. Deregulation, the repeal of Glass Steagall was a massive thing. Those millions to Bill and Hill was Wall Street’s message to the political class: do our bidding like the Clintons and we will take care of you.

    You’re right about something else: Bill and Hill are Globalists. They give a shit about America and Americans. They identify with what they see as their own class. Whether it’s because it’s an intellectual fashion or whether they’re convinced of the Globalist set of ideas makes not a whit of difference.

    • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 12:43 pm #

      Nobody talks about how the cost of college and those speaking fees are related, either.

    • malthuss August 21, 2017 at 4:31 pm #

      You’re right about something else: Bill and Hill are Globalists.

      They give a shit about America and Americans. ????????????

      They identify with what they see as their own class.

  22. Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

    I don’t have a “reply” button for Elysian’s comment.
    I think I’m going to borrow someone’s iphone and start making videos of everyday life in working class/lower middle class America. I’ll throw in some ‘ghetto’ life as well.
    It is a whole lot different here at street level than what you see on TV.

    • venuspluto67 August 21, 2017 at 12:50 pm #

      One big reason why I don’t watch very much television anymore.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 1:42 pm #

        Yes, there has to be at least one Black in every show and commercial. Three people in a commercial? One has to be Black. They are wildly overrepresented.

        • venuspluto67 August 21, 2017 at 1:49 pm #

          That’s not even what we were talking about. You’re a strange one, Janos Stirkrazy.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 2:18 pm #

            You were talking about ghetto tv, right?

            Clarence Thomas isn’t in the Black Museum in Washington. Happy now, Happy?

          • malthuss August 21, 2017 at 4:35 pm #

            I’ll throw in some ‘ghetto’ life as well.
            It is a whole lot different here at street level than what you see on TV.
            Reply

        • benr August 23, 2017 at 4:44 pm #

          Lets also add that white men are always shown as dumb.

    • JimInFlorida August 21, 2017 at 1:16 pm #

      Ghetto life videos have already been covered from every possible angle.

      Hell, this one even has thwack himself in it!

      youtu.be/pfhsXlNf4XI

    • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

      Yes, many Whites have been dragged down to the ghetto way of life. Is this a triumph in your book? That poverty brings people “together”. Thank God for separation. For Walls, Borders, Fences, and Homes (with walls and roofs) and for wild and dappled things. Long may they flourish.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

        Dappled things are bi-colored.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 2:11 pm #

          Freckled. Kissed by the Sun but not burned. Oh Beryl, how could you be like you are?

    • elysianfield August 21, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

      Beryl,
      Please save yourself the trouble…I worked and lived in the Ghettos of Oakland California for four years…and never saw anything approximating that experience on Tee Vee.

      I did not see total anarchy, so much as people trying to live their lives amidst a tremendous crime rate, and the streets populated with an untoward number of predators.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 1:49 pm #

        Exactly. That untoward number of predators is not the majority, even within their territory.
        Sometimes I think the media portrays them that way, as if they are typical of black America, because they think they are typical of black America.

    • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 7:25 pm #

      Uhh not to put too fine a point on it, but that’s reality TV.

    • City_of_76 August 21, 2017 at 8:44 pm #

      Which TV are you talking about? There are a lot of channels, a lot of shows.

  23. Kevvia Knack August 21, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

    Beryl: I agree 100% with your comments about Bill, Hillary and Chelsea.

    • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 1:36 pm #

      I didn’t used to hate the Clintons. I had to face facts.

      • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 7:23 pm #

        Facts are funny things fortuitously, they favor the favorite not the fallen, the fortunate not the few, the fevered and not the forlorn. Facts are fuckers.

  24. elysianfield August 21, 2017 at 1:26 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs,
    A report from 80 miles away of the zone of totality. Pretty much a non-event…like the miracle of childbirth. 90% occlusion, temperature dropped a few degrees, visibility good to 1 mile+…trumpets did not sound…the Earth did not open up and swallow the unbelievers.

    However, on another note…a web site populated by lay astronomers opines that the error in computing the distance of the Oct 12 asteroid could put the rock as close as 4300 miles from the Earth, while assuring their readership that it will NOT impact the planet. I wonder what a rounding error looks like in those very complex calculations?

  25. Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 1:41 pm #

    Rahula has swallowed the Sun. Imagine how this must have seemed to cultures that worshiped the Sun. The terror. I had an experience like this a little boy: I found thunderstorms overwhelming, but I could deal with them. What I found unbearable was dry thunderstorms where it would just flash and boom without rain. Without using the word, I seemed to feel the gods were punishing the Earth – a tremendous feeling of cosmic wrongness in other words and profound sense of relief when it the rain finally came.

    • capt spaulding August 21, 2017 at 2:07 pm #

      You were probably also potty trained at gunpoint.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 2:13 pm #

        And you don’t suffer fools gladly so you must really hate yourself for being so dumb. Or are you not smart enough to realize that?

        • capt spaulding August 21, 2017 at 2:22 pm #

          Gawrsh, you got me that time.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 3:20 pm #

            Sure did.

        • DA August 21, 2017 at 2:49 pm #

          Get a room you two!

          • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 7:33 pm #

            It’s a sado-masochistic love fest. No fighting over top and bottom, no crying over cooking soup.

          • capt spaulding August 21, 2017 at 10:41 pm #

            Hey, I’m not wearing a Rosa Winkel. I don’t wanna cook either. He’ll have to find someone else to be the Ubermensch.

  26. Ishabaka August 21, 2017 at 2:09 pm #

    I’m a bit curious as to why the most pressing issue facing America today is old statues. Also, why those old statues were not an issue when Obama, Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy, et al were President.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 2:14 pm #

      People are going to take them down, dress them up like women, and then put them in the Faculty Lady’s Room.

    • volodya August 21, 2017 at 2:22 pm #

      Because when economic and living conditions become more and more dire, the people running the show want distractions. Hence, the LGBTQ washroom controversy, then it was Russian election meddling and now Confederate statues and when that runs its course, and it will, there will have to be another distraction. Can’t wait to see what it is.

      I thought the washroom issue was inspired. I laughed and laughed, Democrats did superiority dances for months, the Republicans were outraged at such degeneracy. All over what exactly, pissing arrangements for a point something miniscule percentage of the population?

      If they can’t come up with something it’ll be abortion again or evolution or maybe they’ll dredge up school prayer. Or maybe the right of Muslims to have prayers in schools but no school prayer for Christians and Jews and Hindus. That’ll be fun to watch. Progressives will take on this issue and stand up tall and proud and… well, we’ve seen this movie already so you can fill in the rest…

      • benr August 23, 2017 at 4:55 pm #

        SO SICK OF VIRTUE SIGNALING BUFFOONS!
        Amid screams of racist and bigot!

    • Beryl of Oyl August 21, 2017 at 2:25 pm #

      OMG, Chelsea Clinton just started talking about Confederate monuments. As usual, she says something stupid as hell.
      Her father was born in Arkansas, so was she; her father was governor of Arkansas as well as POTUS.
      Suddenly, those monuments are a problem for the Clinton family, but not that ones in Arkansas because, according to Chelsea, the only such statues in Little Rock are “in the cemetery”.
      I am not making this up!
      If I didn’t hate this family before, I would now, simply because they produced this waste of space.

      • DA August 21, 2017 at 2:48 pm #

        Bill allegedly cock-knocked her in her little fetus head a few hours after Webb Hubbell planted his seed. A whole lotta action going on in them parts back about that time from all accounts. Hillary being upwardly mobile and all that. Hey, a humorless, butt-ugly, ignorant bitch has gotta do what she’s gotta do.

      • Linda August 22, 2017 at 7:29 pm #

        I am laughing at your comment, Beryl. I have learned to hate the Clintons for their corruption. I hope that Chelsea will not run for office.

  27. Elrond Hubbard August 21, 2017 at 3:06 pm #

    Below is a short Twitter thread from a participant at the Boston rally this past weekend. Here’s the URL:

    twitter.com/qwrrty/status/898998545088299008

    He makes some interesting points about Black Lives Matter and the slanders people apply to them (as opposed to the Antifa/black bloc types, who really do sound like violent gits who need to get a life). Emphasis added where appropriate.

    Quoting:

    – Y’all should hear about my experience with BLM at the Boston Anti-Nazi Rally. 1/
    – First, BPD did an outstanding job of managing conflicts. 2/
    – Police escorted Nazis to and from the rally. Did not prevent interactions but stood close by to prevent rioting. 3/
    – BLM also escorted Nazis. Surrounded them to prevent fights. 4/
    – I want that to be crystal clear. BLM marshals were *preventing* fights from breaking out. 5/
    – BLM organizers have said over and over again: if a rally turns violent, POC will be targeted. Don’t start none. 6/
    – At one point they were escorting a Nazi out of the rally near where I was standing. 7/
    – Nazi dropped his flag. I snatched for it. He picked it up. I yanked at it. 8/
    – The BLM marshal next to me whupped the back of my head. “DON’T!” 9/
    – At that moment he stopped me from possibly sparking a riot. 10/
    – I was stupid. I was ready to escalate. BLM *stopped* me. 11/
    – This is no surprise to anyone who has actually been to a BLM event or worked with them. 12/
    – But the “BLM are terrorists” narrative persists. 13/
    – I want everyone to understand just how bullshit this narrative is. 14/
    BLM is not starting riots. They’re stopping them. 15/15

    Anyone have more to say about the Boston demonstration? Corroborating evidence?

    • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 3:18 pm #

      BLM chants, “What do we want? Dead Cops. When do we want ’em? Now.”

      “Pigs in a blanket. Fry ’em like Bacon.”

      Ever since the genesis of this Movement, attacks on Police by Blacks have multiplied. That being said, many Blacks hate them because they’re lead by Queers and Lesbians.

      Beyond their hatred, they are utterly clueless, invading Liberal bars and restaurants to harass patrons and demand they repeat the mantra. And yes, Elrond they do attack Whites regardless of political orientation. They are racists.

    • DA August 21, 2017 at 3:29 pm #

      At this point everything coming out from all sides is just so much he said, she said, they said, blah blah blah blah blah. The best thing that could happen is for the numb-nuts on the left to quit fucking around with the damn monuments so that the numb-nuts on the right could stay home and clean their guns, or whatever else it is that they do. Both sides are little more than children with a grudge acting out at this point. Open up a fire hose on both sides and tell ’em to go back to childhood games playing in the water again. Who knows? Someone might even have some fun out there?

      • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 9:22 am #

        It is really sad that in this day in age we still have the torch carrying Nazis with us.

    • malthuss August 21, 2017 at 4:15 pm #

      Who is Brennan Gilmore
      investmentwatchblog.com/looks-li … is-report/

  28. outsider August 21, 2017 at 3:46 pm #

    Isn’t Trump supposed to address the nation this evening? Rumor is that he’s sending more troops to Afghanistan. If so, then the Trump presidency is truly over. (Even the just fired Steve Bannon said so).

    I’m still waiting for the next false flag event which will be used to justify an assault on Teheran. If it happens though, the alt-Left and alt-Right may actually come together. With Obama out of office, it’s now safe for the Left to turn anti-war again, and the Alt Right voted for Trump to get us out of wars – not start new ones.

    • DA August 21, 2017 at 4:36 pm #

      He’s been little more than a marionette for some time now anyway. Poor bastard!

      • DA August 21, 2017 at 4:39 pm #

        Although I’d definitely watch it for the hilarity. I’d be a lot more impressed if he sent troops into DC. Better still, just nuke the joint and be done with it.

        • outsider August 22, 2017 at 7:29 am #

          Per the new “Trump doctrine,” Obama made them fight with one hand tied behind their back. I remember the same statements made when the US was killing millions of Vietnamese (and still lost). So now he will unleash the full might of the US military (more MOABS maybe). Only four thousand more troops will do it, when there were 100,000 in Afghanistan during McCain’s surge, and they couldn’t get the job done. When Trump gave his speech before a military audience he looked like a defeated man who did not believe his own words. Let the carnage continue!

          • DA August 22, 2017 at 10:16 am #

            Yes, the inconsistencies continue to mount with Lord Donald. CIA’s got his nuts in a press.

  29. Bruce E August 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm #

    JHK, the Dodd/Frankensteinization of Glass/Steagall is a perfect metaphor for what “smart” people are going to do to our electric power grid with “smart grid” technologies. People are so enchanted by clever algorithms that work perfectly in computer simulations that they are just absolutely sure it will work if you connect it to our already-too-complex electrical grid.

    Everything must be obfuscated to protect the IP of the oh-so-clever inventors of these technologies (and more-importantly the profits of the employers of those same inventors), and the algorithms themselves are not at all intuitive even if they were open-source, that the folks who wind up with this shit sandwich and have to operate and maintain the equipment will not understand it and not know what to do when it fails to live up to expectations.

    Even if we somehow overcome the limitations of exponential-growth-forever-without-end-amen of sources of generation, getting that power in some usable form to a place where it can be used (e.g. your house or your office or your new Tesla’s battery charger) is fast approaching the practical edge of maximum transmission and distribution of that power.

    And no. Solar PV panels on the rooftop will not cut it. For those who think it will they need to do the math and then realize just how many square feet of PV you need to get a certain amount of kwh per day, and how much of that is lost in the charge/discharge process of the batteries, before any of that sunlight appears as torque on the drive shaft of that beautiful looking car…

    • Bruce E August 21, 2017 at 4:52 pm #

      Oh and another reason for the deliberate obfuscation: limitation of liability. When these clever algorithms are the very cause of the grid going down and killing thousands of people during the middle of a summer heat wave or the middle of a winter cold snap, nobody will understand enough about what happened to pin the blame on the cleverness.

    • cbeard August 23, 2017 at 12:44 pm #

      I’m late to the party with this post. Electric cars are out. The technology seems insufficient to me. Even if they did work I wouldn’t want one as I love polluting internal combustion engines on my old antique British bike and in my car. Solar is very viable for powering your home. Even if it doesn’t supply all the power needed it could be a really nice supplement that would drastically lower the power bill. But, alas solar panels are made needlessly expensive by greedy utility companies and politicians. Maybe someday soon the technology for panels, batteries etc. will be perfected. Excuse me while I get on my old beezer, twist the throttle and spew some carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. PS this is for Bruce E and his 8/21/17 3:48 post.

  30. Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 4:05 pm #

    The Path forward in Afghanistan is the Path backward: four thousand more troops. Trump bows again to the Enemies of the American People. More troops? For what? They aren’t worth one White American life.

    • Bruce E August 21, 2017 at 4:49 pm #

      Would you be okay with it if it were 4,000 black troops?

      Also, for all your hypothesizing that someone like Kessler is a plant from the left to make your cause look bad, your capital-W “White” bullshit might as well be a swastika.

      And you know it, and that’s why you do it.

      I’m just wondering if you really believe what you seem to believe or you are creating these images of yourself out of an extremely deep cynicism.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 5:13 pm #

        Yeah, you can’t have a nation with different races in it – as per the etymology of the word nation. You just have a “country” or a political zone with god know what as a ruling ideology. The organic structure is gone – and we’re all about organic here Bruce. That’s why I belong here, even if most don’t get it.

        • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 8:09 pm #

          All right let’s take this to its natural conclusion. Every ethnic race goes home to their natural country. Of course if you do that, Jews and Palestinians are in the blender. We all have to go back to Europe. American Indians make a yuge, yuge comeback. Is that what you’re saying? Or pick a date, let’s say 1955 America. Freeze frame. You get as close as you can, and you emigrate… is it?

          • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 10:32 pm #

            No, we conquered them fair and square. They go back to Siberia, do not pass Go, do not collect two hundred dollars.

          • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 2:44 pm #

            I think you forgot the first part of that card. I think it said something like… oh what was it… maybe “GO TO JAIL, GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL.”

        • Bruce E August 21, 2017 at 8:36 pm #

          Haha, etymology…

          Yeah, you don’t believe this bullshit. Nobody is that idiotic.

          Your fictional online character, “Janos Skorenzy,” creation is a sociopath. Not sure if that’s the angle you were after, but if you were you’re nailing it. I guess taking on the name of a vampire is appropriate in such a case.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 10:33 pm #

            You’re name calling against because you don’t have a real come back. I have defeated you.

          • Bruce E August 21, 2017 at 11:05 pm #

            Good for you, Janos.

          • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 8:30 am #

            Now lop his head off and hold it up over your head and start singing:
            Aw Mickey you’re so fine you blow my mind hey Micky (Clap, Clap)

          • ozone August 23, 2017 at 8:50 am #

            Bruce E,
            Now you’re gettin’ it. Although the fictional online character is an obvious sociopath, his/her actual personality may be quite close to that. How could one voluntarily enter into an iron-clad contract with da Deb’bil (alt-military “intelligence” psy-ops) without first being an Uber-statist asshole? The distractionary and divisive tactics are in service to the Deep State. We’re not allowed to make common cause or focus on long-term predicaments, because that reveals who our enemies really are. Thus all the race-baiting that destroys what should actually be a thoughtful comment section and brings out the lowest common denominator of hot-button emotional immaturity.

            The best lies are formed around a kernel of the truth…

  31. malthuss August 21, 2017 at 4:13 pm #

    THAT CAR THAT KILLED THE WOMAN IN VIRGINIA,
    Looks like there was a set up,

    Who is Brennan Gilmore—-
    investmentwatchblog.com/looks-li … is-report/

  32. wm5135 August 21, 2017 at 4:42 pm #

    Just going along to get along. Do you really believe that all of that time and effort and money spent on your lawn was not virtue signalling?

    Seems like some of the “folks” here are very interested in maintaining some privileges that in their view do not exist.

    I didn’ do nuffin! Quite rightly so, and that will bite you and me on the ass.

    I will keep reading, someone is sure to clarify the obvious.

    Injustice is it’s own reward. Got no money? Of course not, you are morally inferior. Jeez, been signalling all day about this.

    Born in Zion, never been plugged in.

  33. GhostOfHam August 21, 2017 at 5:19 pm #

    coin: paper bills: checks: ATMs: pin pads at checkout: smart phone checkout: pin pads at checkout with chips: (in PCI coming soon the) pin pads at checkout with fingerprints and photographic (“facial”) recognition: (future) biometric muti-factor authentication: PERSON-ilized RFID sub-epidermal chip and epidermal authentication tattoos (the normalization of tats in preparation).

    See a pattern here?

    How about here: youtube.com/watch?v=ggkkllrCb1M

    Or here? youtube.com/watch?v=Hpp-3Ver7ig&ab_channel=PanasonicNewsroom

  34. janet August 21, 2017 at 5:23 pm #

    Meanwhile Congress is united on voting for a budget

    • Bruce E August 21, 2017 at 8:39 pm #

      Are they going to raise the debt ceiling before things get interesting, and will Trump sign a clean bill or will he be a part of holding the debt ceiling hostage to get something he wants?

      It’s a good thing he doesn’t need his eyes to actually read legislation he signs or vetoes since he probably torched them during the eclipse today…

  35. janet August 21, 2017 at 5:27 pm #

    … And half our national budget goes for war.

    5 years ago, Trump tweeted: “Why are we continuing to train these Afghanis who then shoot our soldiers in the back? Afghanistan is a complete waste. Time to come home!”

    What happened to Trump’s promise of AMERICA FIRST and MAKE AMERICA GREAT?

    The new boss is the same as the old boss.

    • tucsonspur August 21, 2017 at 6:05 pm #

      The promise has become lost in this bashibazouk’s blue-blooded, bilious, babbling, baronial, blustering, boorish, bone-headed, bloviating bullshit.

      • janet August 21, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

        Only now you recognize Trump’s bullshit, after voting for him?

        • tucsonspur August 21, 2017 at 6:57 pm #

          I voted for him about ten months ago. Are you capable of seeing the future? I know I can’t. He has tried to keep some of his promises.

          Remember what the alternative was. I just didn’t want free shit, turd world neighbors.

          • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 9:01 am #

            He was a self serving, largely unsuccessful businessman who was re-purposed by the Russian oligarchy to be a laundromat for their money. This information was well known and could have been used by Little Marco, Crooked Hillary and Lying Ted, all of whom avoided it like the plague. The fix was in, plain and simple. What’s his purpose? We’ll know soon enough.

          • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 1:52 pm #

            Seawolf, this is an interesting conjecture, that Rubio, Cruz, Jeb!, and others pulled their punches instead of winning the primary, and then that HRC pulled her punches instead of winning the election.

            Was that simple miscalculation on HRC’s part, maybe she thought she would narrowly win without using this information to take Trump down, or are you suggesting that maybe she (and everyone else involved) wanted Trump to become President for some specific set of reasons?

            I read an article recently that was basically, “be careful what you wish for,” in that the state of things today had HRC won would not be any better, and in fact much worse for her in terms of any sort of political legacy she might have wanted to leave to history. By losing she can maybe be regarded as the “See? I told you so!” warning about what was going to follow, and decades of mismanagement by Washington by both Dems and GOP avoids all the blame when scapegoat Trump goes down. Then they never have to own their own mistakes, and are never held accountable to their role in the fall of the American Empire.

            Or did you perhaps have some other role in mind for Trump, other than scapegoat?

          • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 6:37 pm #

            I mean what is Trump skilled at. Leveraging a company with so much high interest junk bond debt it has zero chance of succeeding, mismanaging it into the ground, and then like all his business books, ending on chapter 11. Can you think of anyone more qualified to bankrupt the country?

  36. FincaInTheMountains August 21, 2017 at 6:44 pm #

    If so, then the Trump presidency is truly over == outsider

    American Elite Hit the Brakes

    Viewing Sunday political programs confirmed my assumption that Bannon leaving the White House is a part of Trump’s package deal with the sane part of the establishment about the end of the RussiaGate and stopping unraveling of the civil war.

    All the media outlets of the top ten reduced the anti-Trump rhetoric to almost zero, and the media of the second dozen also paid attention to this, obviously coming to similar conclusions, but for the time being is afraid of voicing them openly.

    In particular, they all drew attention to the fact that Congressman Schiff, the leader of the anti-Trump pack in an interview with CNN never mentioned RussiaGate (investigation of Trump’s relations with Russia).

    There is no doubt that when Bannon gave “accidental” interview to American Perspective, he already knew about this agreement and in fact this interview was the first action of the president, whose authority is not longer disputed, but no one supports him in the White House except the family, since all his advisers were forced to leave.

    But Trump, giving the final interview after Charlottesville, did not look defeated and capitulation was signed rather by his enemies.

    What makes the philosophical foundations of Orthodoxy even more relevant, since the views of chief strategist of the White House, Bannon are more characteristic of the Church of England, and Trump clearly gravitates toward the Orthodoxy.

    • DA August 21, 2017 at 7:00 pm #

      Could all be true Finca, but even so, I’m not sure Trump has the higher order cognitive ability to ever “look defeated.” He’s sort of like a shark that way: he must keep swimming to breathe and he breathes so he can keep swimming. Along the way he eats whatever gets in his way. His mind works on the primal level only.

      • FincaInTheMountains August 21, 2017 at 7:51 pm #

        Personally, I knew only few people who understood the Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity, which is in antagonistic conflict with the “Gauge theory”: Andrei Sakharov, John Nash and Grigori Perelman.

        Philosophical foundations of Christianity are many times more complex than General Theory of Relativity, and you’re no Nash, DA.

        • DA August 22, 2017 at 7:55 am #

          Nice self-referential segue Finca. Your pseudo-profundity continues impress absolutely no one.

  37. Pucker August 21, 2017 at 7:21 pm #

    Why isn’t anyone in the MSM clamoring for the FBI to inspect the DNC computers?

    The Clinton Foundation….

    • malthuss August 21, 2017 at 9:25 pm #

      CNN, Clinton News Network.

  38. Pucker August 21, 2017 at 7:32 pm #

    Does Trump really want to pull out of Afghanistan, or just take shorter strokes?

    John McCain wants Trump to go deeper, and even to stick it into Iran.

    • DA August 22, 2017 at 7:50 am #

      McCain’s always struck me as a voyeur. Bet they made him watch in the Hanoi Hilton and he got hooked on it.

    • outsider August 22, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

      McCain’s been wanting to take out Iran since at least 9/11. That was one of his platforms when he ran (and thankfully lost) in ’08. Now, since he doesn’t have much time left due to brain cancer, he’s desperate for the war to commence before he dies. WWIII would make him even happier.

  39. Janos Skorenzy August 21, 2017 at 7:34 pm #

    They’re coming for Traditional Catholics now, trying to deny them access to paypal, facebook, or the internet itself:

    I would suggest that every victim or potential victim of ProPublica’s witch-hunt, as well as similar operations conducted by other elements of the FNIC and the LTPD, consult legal counsel about possible claims for tortious interference with contractual relations.

    Meanwhile, with good reason has Tucker Carlson argued that the time has come to treat the Internet as a quasi-governmental space subject to regulation as a public utility, including enforcement of First Amendment protections. The growing tyranny of Google, Facebook and other Internet giants, aided and abetted by Brown Shirts at organizations like ProPublica (which is just another version of the SPLC), is a prime example of how the unbridled “free market” uses government-subsidized infrastructure to obtain monopoly power on a quasi-governmental scale while evading regulation and Constitutional protections under the guise of “private” ownership.

    Christopher Ferrara

    • outsider August 22, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

      Janos,

      Last night, Tucker argued that Google doesn’t have just liberal values, but “San Francisco Values,” which are far more dangerous. Since they control speech on the Internet, they have more power than the Robber Barons ever did.

  40. Pucker August 21, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

    Rather than a Jerry Lewis Muscular Dystrophy Telethon, maybe they should have an Afghanistan Telethon and parade around wounded US Veterans of the Afghan War and Afghan women covered in sheets? Somebody’s making Big Bucks off of the opium and heroin trafficking?

    I miss the Jerry Lewis Muscular Dystrophy Telethon. It was always “A Hoot”.

    • seawolf77 August 21, 2017 at 8:04 pm #

      Yeah it’s like “Billy Jack” and chocolate chip cookies from the refrigerated frozen phallus after school.An ice cold glass of milk. Gilligan’s Island playing on the TV. Mo Better Blues.

      • Pucker August 21, 2017 at 8:57 pm #

        Mary Ann and her Sweet Coconut Cream Pie….

    • benr August 24, 2017 at 10:24 am #

      There is far more than opium in Afghanistan!
      Natural gas fields, petroleum, rare earth minerals, uranium, gold, silver copper and precious stones not to mention PIPELINES!
      It has been estimated to be one of the richest mining resource regions in the entire world.

      • seawolf77 August 25, 2017 at 8:36 am #

        In the immortal words of the little wop from Queens “You think we’d be in Iraq if they’re major export was broccoli.”

  41. Walter B August 21, 2017 at 8:13 pm #

    You know Jim, back in the early ’70’s we had a saying called SUBAKIS, See It Big And Keep It Simple. It was a great way to approach problem solving, but then engineers were still in charge not scum like Blankenfein and Soros. Overcomplicating everything from washing machines to toothbrushes by installing microchips and advanced sensory technologies into them may be great for the profit margin, but my 4 pound engineering hammer has been of far more use than most of the computerized crap that barely lasts a year before it is either outdated or craps out altogether. But then consumers are made to consume aren’t they?

    You can hardly blame the scum bag politicians and bankers for cheating us all out of our income because it’s not like they have any real marketable skills or talents themselves besides deceit now do they? Besides Americans do not need paychecks as long as they have credit cards or welfare checks. It’s not like the minions really care anyway because they are far more interested in tearing down a statue and a country and taking a dump in the ladies bathroom or having their carcasses tattooed to make them look like an alley cat or a baboon.

    You made a great point in Too Much Magic when you wrote “The intellectual damage has been permanent in a society that is now incapable of generating either sincere artistry or intelligent responses to today’s great crises”. You said it Jim, PERMANENT DAMAGE and you were and remain correct in your assessment. Hey, is that a Fat Lady I here singing in the distance……..

  42. BackRowHeckler August 21, 2017 at 8:46 pm #

    Not only are future automobiles powered up by electricity, which is thought to be virtually free, but they will drive themselves. All you have to do is sit back, eat Cheetos and tinker around with your cellphone. Now that’s living!

    and speaking of the media … the two police officers murdered by gunfire the other night in Kissimmee, Fla … the killer was a convert to Islam and belonged to a black separatist group called ‘Moro Nation’. What, you didn’t hear anything about it? It wasn’t on the front page of your local newspaper? CNN didn’t run wall to wall breathless coverage of it? I’m shocked, shocked I tell ya.

    All you CFNers, are you dutifully gathering up your books about the Confederacy? You don’t want to be found with any when the BLM raids and searches begin in earnest. Your full cooperation is not only required in this matter, it is demanded. Particularly egregious is anything written by Douglas Southall Freeman, a known racist and Confederate sympathizer. Any copies of ‘Lee’s Lieutenants’ or Robert E Lee, will draw extraordinary penalties not only for yourself but for your entire family. Our goal in burning these books is to root out racism in all forms. That is our mission.

    brh

    brh

  43. Pucker August 21, 2017 at 9:41 pm #

    Regardless of what one thinks of the Confederacy and whether Lincoln wanted to free black people (He didn’t.), one has to respect and admire the Confederate Generals as great leaders who inspired tremendous sacrifice in their men. They were extremely courageous and were loyal to their comrades and to their respective states, and they were devoted pious Christians.

    They were not the Na…zi’s so portrayed by today’s corrupt MSM. In fact, they were fighting against Empire and for a decentralized association of states more attuned to the vision of the Founding Fathers. It was Lincoln who more closely resembled a fascist dictator shutting down newspapers, imposing martial law, committing genocide of 900,000 young men, and furthering the cause of Empire (the “Union”) and corporate interests (the railroads). Lincoln was a former corporate lawyer for the railroads.

  44. janet August 21, 2017 at 10:36 pm #

    Pucker, they were disloyal to the UNITED STATES. They were traitors. They were fighting to preserve the immoral institution of slavery for the worst of reasons: their own selfish economic interests. All their statues should be taken down and preserved in a statue museum where white supremacists can appreciate them all at once.

    • Pucker August 21, 2017 at 11:16 pm #

      Prior to the Civil War, the term “The United States” didn’t exist. Only after the Civil War did American start to use the term “The United States” signifying the creation of a strong central government and the beginning of an Empire. The original conception of the Founding Fathers and Americans was a loose association of states with the states retaining all rights except for the very narrow rights given to a very limited central government under the Constitution. The original conception of the US Government was destroyed in 1865 and Empire created. The wealthy plantation owners of the South wanted strong states which maximized their power in state governments. Lincoln and the railroads wanted to break up state power to create an Empire (“Union”) in order to run railroad lines across the continent. Now the US Empire has matasticized into a global Empire.

      • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 7:57 am #

        United States of America is in the Declaration of Independence.

        • JimInFlorida August 22, 2017 at 8:51 am #

          The United States of the Constitution was merely a descriptor of the union of SOVEREIGN STATES. The Federal Government was merely a convenient means of codifying their common goals.

          The semi-private corporation we’ve all lived under since 1874 is named, “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC.” It is a foreign For-Profit Corporation that took on the name of USA, Inc. and ADOPTED the Constitution as a set of BY-LAWS.

          The Constitution only had legal power while the signers were still alive. The last one died in 1826 and Abraham Lincoln buried it with the Civil War. It is now a body of by-laws which can be applied or ignored by the REAL OWNERS of this country.

        • messianicdruid August 22, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

          Do you remember this part:

          “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

          Or this part:

          “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

          From what I reread it says “united States of America”. Perhaps the meaning of the uncapitalized “u” escapes you.

          The south’s error was in actually believing this stuff, or rather expecting their leaders to believe [ by-live ] it.

          • messianicdruid August 22, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

            And of course you can’t remember this:

            Treason is defined by Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution as follows: “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.” The most important word here is “them.” As in all the founding documents, “United States” is always in the plural, signifying that the “free and independent states,” as they are called in the Declaration of Independence, are united in forming a compact or confederacy with other states. Levying war against “them” means levying war against individual states, not something called “the United States government.” Therefore, Lincoln’s invasion and levying of war upon the Southern states is the very definition of treason in the Constitution.”

            because you cannot return from somewhere you have never been.

    • benr August 24, 2017 at 10:37 am #

      Actually no Janet slavery had little to do with the civil war.
      It had to do with states rights, taxation, trade and the souths deep water ports.
      The South did not need the north but the north needed the south!
      The South could and did buy goods from other imperial powers like England which figured heavily into the civil war.
      In fact the North was the manufacturing base but had a hard time growing enough food to feed themselves.

      ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?125433-Real-reasons-for-the-Civil-War

  45. BackRowHeckler August 21, 2017 at 10:39 pm #

    Record number of people shot in Chicago this weekend.

    The way I see it, after 50 years of Civil Rights Legislation, $10 trillion spent on welfare, and affirmative action out the yazoo, here we are in 2017 and there’s 70 shot this weekend in Chicago. What went wrong? It can’t be the libs fault, with all their good intentions and heartfelt do goodism, and citing the blacks themselves would amount to ‘blaming the victim.’ Well, scapegoats are needed, and the scapegoats are monuments and statues erected 100 years ago to mark the deaths of 250,000 dead Confederate soldiers. Its the fault of those monuments, and what we think they represent, why it was all for naught. That seems to be the simplistic media explanation. As for orgs like BLM and Antifa, I’m not sure what they want. All whites dead? To start over at year 0, with themselves on top, with all us pipsqueaks under their boot. I’m not sure yet how formidable they actually are. The possibility always exists they will link up with ISIS, rendering them real battlefield experience which they could bring into towns and cities across America. Or maybe they’re just pissants who will melt away when they meet their fist platoon of Marines on the streets of Dallas or Oakland. We’ll have to wait and see.

  46. janet August 21, 2017 at 11:02 pm #

    With Iran and Russia supporting the Taliban it doesn’t matter how many US troops are sent or how many thousands more US personnel die, Trump cannot defeat the Taluban. The kleptocrats should be happy with Trump… Billions more US taxpayer dollars will continue to feed Afghan corruption.

    They have, after all, only had 16 years of “training” … I am sure they will stand up SOON so we can “stand down” \sarcasm off

  47. tucsonspur August 21, 2017 at 11:29 pm #

    Hail the mighty chief! Hail Trump! Gracious and gallant enough to go with his gallery of generals, gnarly enough to gut the globalists.

    What do I know of the inner workings of Afghanistan or Pakistan or India? Not much. The Giant Gnomon will guide me and sever that Gordian knot.

    Hail Trump! Hail this God send! Let me jump on his gunboat, let me be his grenadier!

    Oh how gullible I was, heading for the guillotine!

    Hail mighty Trump, He who won’t grovel! Hail Trump! Hail Gladiator Trump!

    • tucsonspur August 22, 2017 at 12:19 am #

      I must admit he read the teleprompter like he was a statue, but I thought the teleprompter was about to topple. Stiff as a board but he won’t be ignored.

    • pequiste August 22, 2017 at 12:30 am #

      “They” have shown The Donald enough re-runs of that Zapruder Show that it is finally beginning to sink in.

      – “Let’s sacrifice another 5,000 American lives and waste another TRILLION or so dollars into the abyss of Shitholistan for another 16 years.” Yes Sir! Can do easy.

      (U.S. Navy warships “colliding” with slow-as-molasses freighters, is no reason to worry about anything.)

      – “Get rid of that Steve Bannon chap and the rest of his Alt-right ilk from your Cabinet.” Yes Sir! Can do easy.

      (Listen to the rabbi of Jared and Ivanka and you will be just fine.)

      – “Make America Great Again” on your own time Donald; you are on “Our” timetable now.” Yes, Sir! Whatever you say Sir!

      (Make sure that your next Treasury Secretary and Federal Reserve picks are Havard and Goldman Sachs alumni – there is quantitative easing to be done. You wouldn’t want a global economic depression during your administration, would you Mr. President?)

      Nothing like having clear guidance from above to straighten things out. Barry O., Bill and Hillary are having a gut-busting howl of a laughing fit.

  48. pequiste August 22, 2017 at 12:46 am #

    Volodya, up the reply stream, was speculating on what the next distraction for Lumpen-America is going to be.The picture perfect social engineering tool that will shatter law, traditions, and customs of the U.S.A. while leaving all yuge problems i.e. the economy, endless wars, energy policy, immigration, terrorism, decayed cities, medical care……the list is staggering and JHK only breached the surface of the septic tank contents in this communique.

    Beyond the upcoming NFL season, I know the PERFECT rabble rouser; sure to please gobs of minorities, libs, the Media, and especially those Trotskyites that have come to the fore on the “Left.”

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to the Clusterfuck Nation, the hum-dinger distraction issue of the Final Frontier of the Fecal State:

    Polygamy and Polyandry!

    Mormons and Muslims can finally agree that their religious rights have been trampled; LBGTQBN groups will be jumping for joy that another group can be added to the letter-string, and the ACLU will have lawsuits a plenty to get the marriage laws changed to permit it.

    Oh, what bliss to be living in post-eclipse America.

  49. Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter August 22, 2017 at 1:14 am #

    To: JHKunstler

    A Short Verse in honor of this article:

    Mommy, What Happened to our Civilization???
    A Short Ogdenian Verse Between A Mother
    And Her 26 Year Old Daughter
    By Squeeky Fromm

    Because of diminished capacity
    We now have diminishing returns!
    Combined with financial rapacity,
    Mein Gott! How the STUPID it burns!

    Mommy, I don’t understand what you said.
    Although I have all those straight A’s.
    My Prof says that Gender is all in my head,
    We’re everyone Lezzies and gays!

    Sooo Mommy, will you please explain what you meant,
    And appropriately now for my age,
    For “over my head” is where what you said went,
    Oh Look! Kim Kardashian is on stage!

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  50. Pucker August 22, 2017 at 1:42 am #

    Do the People in Power believe in Slavery?

    • pequiste August 22, 2017 at 8:27 am #

      Do they believe in it?

      They have the newest, and so much improved it’s PERFECT, version coming: “The Mark Of The Beast”TM planned for everyone on Earth in the next few.

      • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 10:03 am #

        It’s just that ?????? was misspelled in the old texts. The original-original text was incorrectly transcribed, but it said ?????…

        • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 10:04 am #

          Awww… apparently clever Greek font things don’t make it in this comment section.

          • capt spaulding August 22, 2017 at 2:35 pm #

            I think your’re overreaching Bruce. Now if you had put it in the original Aramaic, you coulda got some laffs.

        • pequiste August 22, 2017 at 12:42 pm #

          Could you please spell the incorrect transcription in Greek using English characters and also spell it phonetically. Also the correct word.

          “16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
          17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
          18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.”

          “https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-13-16_13-18/

          I am quite curious as to your correction of The King James version of the scripture.

          The CFN would appreciate it also I think.

          The coming enslavement of Human Beings via robotics, computers, and especially Artifical General Intelligence, is going to be stunning in its demonic capabilities. Totaly, terrifyingly awesome!

          Just ask Elon Musk, or perhaps Stephen Hawking. They know.

          • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

            “Beast” is theta-nu-rho-iota-omicron-upsilon or “Th?riou.”

            I had as the “original” mis-transcribed word to be theta-rho-upsilon-mu-pi, or “Thrump.”

            It was a stupid joke that might have been marginally funny had the font transcribed itself correctly and only someone who could read Greek would appreciate it — and even then it was just a roll-your-eyes-and-groan kinda funny.

  51. BackRowHeckler August 22, 2017 at 4:04 am #

    Well, check it out CFners, in Manhattan, the beautiful and elegant Christopher Columbus monument, a century old, might be coming down.

    If its not taken down soon it will be vandalized like the Columbus memorial in Baltimore last night. This memorial dates back to the 1790s. European America, the whole idea of the United States, seems to be dying. What’s going to replace it? 70 shot in Chicago last weekend might be a clue.

    Am I remiss in asking, who the hell is running NYC, Pol Pot?

    brh

    • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

      Yeah, they’re saying America should have never been – which is like throwing darts at a picture of your mother’s face or pissing on her grave. And the Sea Wolves of the World thought it would end with the Confederate statues! Fools.

      They’re just broadening the base of the rebellion before they go to the next stage: the Founding Fathers themselves. Lincoln and others later as they didn’t believe Blacks were equal. Then Rushmore and Stone Mountain.

  52. BackRowHeckler August 22, 2017 at 4:10 am #

    I don’t know, maybe the Italian American community down in the city can protect this Columbus monument before the circling hyenas turn it into rubble.

    brh

    • DA August 22, 2017 at 8:10 am #

      GREAT link!

    • DA August 22, 2017 at 8:17 am #

      Need to post a plaque with this engraved on it at the Lincoln Monument:

      Lincoln’s Real Agenda: A Mercantilist Empire

      Lincoln began his political career in 1832 as a Whig. Northern Whigs like Lincoln were the party of the corporate plutocracy who wanted to use the coercive powers of government to line the pockets of their big business benefactors (and of themselves). They proclaimed to stand for what their political predecessor, Alexander Hamilton, called the “American System.” This was really an Americanized version of the rotten, corrupt system of British “mercantilism” that the colonists had rebelled against. Its planks included protectionist tariffs to benefit Northern manufacturers and their banking and insurance industry business associates; a government-run national bank to provide cheap credit to politically-connected businesses; and “internal improvement subsidies,” which we today would call “corporate welfare,” for canal-, road-, and railroad-building corporations. So when Lincoln first ran for political office in Illinois in 1832 he announced: “I am humble Abraham Lincoln. I have been solicited by many friends to become a candidate for the legislature. My politics are short and sweet, like the old woman’s dance. I am in favor of a national bank . . . in favor of the internal improvements system and a high protective tariff.” He would devote his entire political career for the next twenty-nine years on that agenda.

      This was the agenda that Abraham Lincoln devoted his entire political life to. The “American System” was finally fully enacted with Lincoln’s Pacific Railroad Bill, which led to historic corruption during the Grant administration with its gargantuan subsidies to railroad corporations and others; fifty years of high, protectionist tariffs that continued to plunder Agricultural America, especially the South and the Mid-West, for the benefit of the industrial North; the nationalization of the money supply with the National Currency Acts and Legal Tender Acts; and the beginnings of a welfare state with veterans’ pensions. Most importantly, the system of federalism that was established by the founding fathers was all but destroyed with a massive shift in political power to Washington, D.C. and away from the people, due to the abolition (at gunpoint) of the rights of nullification and secession.

  53. 100th Avatar August 22, 2017 at 5:40 am #

    The MIC has signaled that it has the wheel to this ship firmly in hand.
    The White House has been resecured.
    The Afghanistan fund will continue to produce profit opportunities for the foreseeable future. Equip the troops and provide them support means buy Grunman. Too bad constellis is private. Too bad.

    • 100th Avatar August 22, 2017 at 5:46 am #

      The old cancer condemned dog got thrown a bone, tail wagging he barks his approval for his new master for the first time: “To be sure, as Senator John McCain has stated, the president’s new strategy is “a big step in the right direction with the new strategy for Afghanistan.”

      GOP hawks need to be fed before you ask for their votes.

      • DA August 22, 2017 at 8:10 am #

        Come on cancer! That old motherfucker can’t die soon enough.

        • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 10:34 am #

          Like Gore Vidal said when Truman Capote died “It’s a good career move.”

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:03 pm #

            He was a vicious old queen, but still a fucking patriot. What’s your excuse?

          • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 2:37 pm #

            Nationalism is for suckers. Anything that gets young men in the flower of life to want to go fight a war, which is the ultimate horror, is recipe for a fool’s end. And it’s gourd heads like you that promulgate racism under the cover of nationalism that pollutes their minds. Simple minds believe if an idea is simple enough to write on the back of the envelope, than it is powerful enough to believe in absolutely. Naturally what comes about is an army of racists simpletons: The Janos Brigade.

          • benr August 24, 2017 at 10:53 am #

            @seawolf-
            Nationalism is not bad it is good to be proud of your country and heritage if your not something is deeply wrong with you.
            In spite of some of the problems the United States of America has we have a lot going right as well.
            If it’s so bad move to Venezuela then get back to us.

  54. janet August 22, 2017 at 6:22 am #

    .Pucker, your revisionist history is racist. General Lee was a traitor to the United States, which came into being through a formal declaration of Congress on 1776…

    “On this day in 1776, the Continental Congress formally declares the name of the new nation to be the “United States” of America.”

    This replaced the term “United Colonies,” which had been in general use.

    • Pucker August 22, 2017 at 6:38 am #

      History is racist?

      • janet August 22, 2017 at 6:55 am #

        Your revisionist history, saying Lee was not a traitor because the USA did not exist until 1865, is racist. Lee was fighting against the established govermment for the institution of slavery.

        • Pucker August 22, 2017 at 7:32 am #

          Lincoln didn’t prosecute the war to help black people. Lincoln didn’t even like black people. Lincoln married into a slave owning family from Kentucky called the Todd’s.

          • outsider August 22, 2017 at 7:41 am #

            I’ve always found it strange that other countries are allowed to break apart, but not the USA. Why is the US “Indivisible” anyway? That sounds like another word for perpetual bondage – or slavery.

          • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 10:08 am #

            Biggest distinction comes in the first 3 words of the US Constitution: “We the People” is distinctly different from “We the States.” The unification is implied there by predicating the entirety of the document upon one singular “People” rather than a plurality of “States.”

          • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 10:10 am #

            Correction — not “plurality” but “multiplicity” is a better term in previous statement.

          • outsider August 22, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

            Bruce E,

            Your example sounds like a distinction without a difference. What if “We the people’ have had enough of this nightmare Empire and want out? Are we stuck, as in “1984?”

          • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 1:13 pm #

            The distinction is crucial. It is the defense of individual rights where the Constitution derives its authority to overrule the sovereignty of the state (the flip-side of the 10th Amendment, if you will).

            That said, President Donald Trump has turned this fairly strong-left-leaning progressive into a 10th Amendment conservative. I’m ready for California and New York to secede (peacefully, if that could be pulled off) from the “Union,” and go their own way and let the old Confederacy go fuck off. We’ll absorb their escaping minority populations and build a better world and they can just starve when their local municipal funding through fines for minor traffic violations and other minor “crimes” runs out of black people to disproportionately tap for money…

            I’m guessing if that were to happen, Trump would not feel the slightest hesitation or perceive the slightest bit of hypocrisy to go all Abraham Lincoln on us for doing so…

            But yes — Trump makes secession as an impulse much more understandable to us libtards in the North. Maybe that’s where we find common ground.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:07 pm #

            Bravo Bruce, that’s the spirit. Why live in hate? And kudos for admitting Blacks commit more crimes. In your scenario, they’d all be leaving Our States for your States. More illegal immigrants for you to love! And more crimes to lovingly overlook and more opportunities to feel superior to us (and secretly to them).

          • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 2:37 pm #

            Haha, Janos. Just wait until the women down there find out that there’s equal pay for equal work, equal rights, respect for them outside their role as pregnant and/or raising children, and that “no” means “no” up here. That particular Exodus might catch your attention in a different way…

  55. janet August 22, 2017 at 6:30 am #

    THE COUP IS IN PLACE. THE GENERALS ARE IN CHARGE.

    FUBAR.

  56. janet August 22, 2017 at 6:50 am #

    The Global War on Terrorism is completely fake, based on fake premisrs. The West is funding both sides for profit. The soldiers are brainwashed into giving their lives.

    collective-evolution.com/2015/11/28/more-hard-hitting-words-from-the-dalai-lama-about-the-mass-brain…

    • outsider August 22, 2017 at 7:34 am #

      Janet,

      This is the issue that the Occupy Wall Street Left and Alt Right can agree on. Our two sides should set aside our differences and unite on an anti-war platform instead of fighting each other.

    • DA August 22, 2017 at 8:08 am #

      I’m glad you finally figured that out janet. I’ve simply renamed it The Global War Of Terror. The acronym still works. Now, consider the 9-11 myth again in that light.

    • akmofo August 22, 2017 at 8:31 am #

      @ janet

      Trump is now surrounded by Generals. For a smart guy, he seems to be clueless as to how someone becomes a General. These Generals have an allegiance to the Vatican/CIA gov mafia because that’s who made them who they are. The way out is to demolish the CIA (and the rest of the alphabet “security” agencies). The Kennedys tried to do that and it didn’t end too well for them. What’s needed is mass public awareness and exposure along with mass public protests demanding that these agencies and their assets be done with. The public needs to learn the truth as to who really is running the US government and who they really serve.

      Btw:

      BBC Reporter Liz MacKean Who Sought To Expose BBC Pedophilia Ring Found Dead

      And now:

      ‘Paedophilia not criminal condition’ says Durban cardinal

      • DA August 22, 2017 at 9:25 am #

        You’re right, but the truth has been out there (and mounting) now for going on 70 years and the public simply isn’t interested.

        • akmofo August 22, 2017 at 9:55 am #

          The public is very interested. That is why they no longer tune to the Vatican/CIA/MSM propaganda outlets and are switching to “alternative news” outlets.

          • DA August 22, 2017 at 10:06 am #

            That’s a start anyway. Trouble is, a lot of the “alternative news” out there is also CIA funded disinformation.

          • akmofo August 22, 2017 at 10:32 am #

            @ DA

            True on that.

            A good tell to what’s what is the deliberate failure to expose Vatican pederasts, failure to expose CIA drug and weapons running, constant anti-Zionist propaganda along with stupefying pro-Jihadistani lies and staged theater.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:09 pm #

            Just replace Vatican with Jewish and what he says makes sense.

            The man is Tribe or one of their running dog lackeys.

          • messianicdruid August 22, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

            I was wondering why he became so nasty after Sunday night.

      • malthuss August 23, 2017 at 12:39 am #

        THE VATICAN.
        What was the handle of the poster who blamed it all on them?
        maybe 2 years back.

      • benr August 24, 2017 at 10:57 am #

        You might want to go look at who funded and pushed the color revolutions in countries like Thailand. I will give you a hint the initials are GS HIS REAL LAST NAME WAS Schwartz and this vampire has been a thorn in many countries sides.
        This is not an anti-Semitic comment so much as a statement of fact.

  57. seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 8:52 am #

    Of course, war and the large military establishments are the greatest sources of violence in the world. Whether their purpose is defensive or offensive, these vast powerful organizations exist solely to kill human beings. We should think carefully about the reality of war. Most of us have been conditioned to regard military combat as exciting and glamorous – an opportunity for men to prove their competence and courage. Since armies are legal, we feel that war is acceptable; in general, nobody feels that war is criminal or that accepting it is criminal attitude. In fact, we have been brainwashed. War is neither glamorous nor attractive. It is monstrous. Its very nature is one of tragedy and suffering.

    Modern warfare waged primarily with different forms of fire, but we are so conditioned to see it as thrilling that we talk about this or that marvelous weapon as a remarkable piece of technology without remembering that, if it is actually used, it will burn living people. War also strongly resembles a fire in the way it spreads. If one area gets weak, the commanding officer sends in reinforcements. This is throwing live people onto a fire. But because we have been brainwashed to think this way, we do not consider the suffering of individual soldiers. No soldiers want to be wounded or die. None of his loved ones wants any harm to come to him. If one soldier is killed, or maimed for life, at least another five or ten people – his relatives and friends – suffer as well. We should all be horrified by the extent of this tragedy, but we are too confused.

    Dali Lama

    • DA August 22, 2017 at 10:11 am #

      Don’t worry, the war will be (and is already) coming home to us. Then perhaps we can all learn to “appreciate” it a little more, up close and personal.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm #

      Many young Tibetan men in the diaspora have joined the Indian military as paratroopers, desperately hoping for a crack at the evil Chinese who have taken their country from them.

      This kind of pacifism is expected from Buddhist Monks. It just opens the door to all kinds of tyranny. Thankfully the Buddhist Monks of Burma are wiser and advocate that the Muslims be pushed into the sea. Certainly the Buddha was wiser: never conflating the two states of Lay believers and Monastics. Peace is the duty of the latter, not the former.

      Over the centuries many Christian missionaries have been killed by Tibetan Monks. They have a ritual where they can leave off being a monk for awhile to do such deeds. And the Dalai Lama himself has even come out against the Muslim invasion of Europe. That took a bit of courage, so he’s not all bad.

      • malthuss August 23, 2017 at 12:40 am #

        Werent monks killing monks, in non violent Tibet?
        Did the dalai Lama start a war there, long ago?

        • Janos Skorenzy August 23, 2017 at 1:34 am #

          The Buddhists have a great record compared to all others. But sure, sometimes they get caught up in politics.

    • elysianfield August 22, 2017 at 4:30 pm #

      How many divisions does the Dali Lama have?

      The Dali Lama is, of course, correct in what he says…but to what effect? The exact same sentiments have echoed throughout history….

    • messianicdruid August 22, 2017 at 7:43 pm #

      Yes, sea wolf, we should be recycling the jets and tanks [ monuments to war ] scattered around the country in town squares.

  58. JimInFlorida August 22, 2017 at 9:03 am #

    Can I be banned for citing just a few of the sources behind some of my screeds?

    jewishvirtuallibrary.org/american-jews-and-the-civil-rights-movement

    myjewishlearning.com/article/jews-in-the-civil-rights-movement/

    mydigimag.rrd.com/publication/?i=115095&article_id=1087473&view=articleBrowser&ver=ht…{%22issue_id%22:115095,%22view%22:%22articleBrowser%22,%22article_id%22:%221087473%22}

    kavvanah.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/orthodox-jewry-and-the-civil-rights-movement/

    jewishcurrents.org/tag/school-desegregation/

    “Civil Rights” and desegregation were hard core anti-White social engineering projects. “Justice” had nothing to do with them. I won’t even hint at the common denominator. Only Elrond and beantownbill are allowed to say it.

    • akmofo August 22, 2017 at 9:27 am #

      So what’s your remedy? Back to slavery, forced segregation, Whites as the Master Race genociding and mass thieving from others. That’s your vision of proper social engineering? FUCK YOU!

      • DA August 22, 2017 at 10:07 am #

        False dichotomy.

        • akmofo August 22, 2017 at 10:09 am #

          Oh yeah, you know different? Please tell me.

        • beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 10:25 am #

          Quite simply, DA, Jif is a known racist and Jew-hater. Forget about his sometimes logical posts, everything is colored (pun intended) by hate and negativity. Do you think as he does? If you do not, why even comment?

          • DA August 22, 2017 at 10:27 am #

            You too? See my reply to akmofo. Back and forth, back and forth.

          • akmofo August 22, 2017 at 10:37 am #

            @ DA

            I asked: So what’s your remedy?
            I’m still waiting for an answer.

        • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 10:56 am #

          DA stop pretending that people like Janos or JimInFlorida are here for a rational conversation. Both of them signal their true intents when they insist on capitalizing the “W” in “White,” and by doing so they are bringing deliberate emphasis to a symbology that might as well be a swastika.

          They are not here to engage in conversation. They are here to provoke specific emotional reactions designed to undermine their opponents’ arguments by baiting them into an emotional response that undercuts anything intelligent they may have said before. In that, they are largely successful.

          They must do this, because their own arguments are non-existent and have no rational basis, so they must take their opponents down to their level and make it look like “both sides” or “all sides” are equal. The moral equivalency becomes an intellectual equivalency, basically shutting down any attempt at rational conversation.

          • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 11:23 am #

            Janos and Jim are symptomatic of the core issue bedeviling America. In many ways blacks are still in chains, except they are prison chains and not slaver’s chains. States rights are fine, but when Louisiana incarcerates 5 times more people than Maine, the Feds should step in and see why. Statistics must be used to determine the health of the nation, not perceptions. I work at a Six Sigma company and the mantra is listen to the numbers, let the numbers tell you what to do. That should be the way business is conducted. There is no penalty for racism. That has to change. Diversity to a certain extent is attempting it, but in ways makes it worse, because my halls are filled with Indians.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

            I capitalize Black too. It’s just being polite. There’s no reason for more negativity than the situation demands.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:26 pm #

            Why? Well maybe Louisiana has a lot more people than Maine? Or are you looking for racism? Well yes then, if you look per capita, the rate of crime in Louisiana will be much higher. Blacks commit far more crimes per capita after all. Everyone knows that. Check out FBI crime stats. And then look at world wide stats: they’re the same everywhere.

          • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

            It’s not polite, Janos, it’s a matter of emphasis and highlight, similar to bold font. It’s meant to be noticed. There is intention there.

            It’s bait. It’s meant to incite. And it’s as obvious to me as is tattooing a swastika to the back of your neck.

            You probably think yourself clever, and subtle, as if the capital letters are a dog whistle only your pack can hear. But you’re wrong. You’re also transparent.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 3:54 pm #

            I capitalize White and Black. That’s being polite. I recognize that they are for their own people as I am for mine. I never tried to hide that here, I emphasize it.

            You’re for no one unless they are against Whites, the Devil in your system of thought. Blacks who are for the Monuments get beaten down and killed by you feral fucks.

          • malthuss August 23, 2017 at 12:42 am #

            Capitalizing Proper Adjectives – English Plus
            Capitalizing Proper Adjectives A proper noun used as an adjective or an adjective formed from a proper noun is called a proper adjective. Proper adjectives are …
            [Search domain englishplus.com] englishplus.com/grammar/000000

      • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

        Jefferson and Lincoln both wanted Blacks sent out of the continental Unites States, beyond the danger of mixture as Jefferson said. That was the answer. Since that opportunity is gone, the only answer now is to give them their own country in the deep South.

        • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 2:28 pm #

          Why not go back to mutually agreed upon segregation?

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:59 pm #

            Your side will never agree to that in any case. And Blacks are now emboldened by our weakness and won’t agree to it either. Complete separation is the best way now. Of course neither policy has any chance of being adopted. The full tragedy of race war is baked in the cake now. Or Civil War which will have race war as a minor theme.

        • jhon August 22, 2017 at 3:19 pm #

          not my south,,,

  59. seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 9:15 am #

    WOW! God just put the first line of an X on America.
    nationaleclipse.wordpress.com/2016/06/28/x-marks-the-spot-two-total-solar-eclipses-in-seven-years/

    • DA August 22, 2017 at 10:08 am #

      Roughly spans the New Madrid fault. Wonder if there’s any cosmic connection there?

      • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 10:26 am #

        It is eerie really, if you believe the Great Tribulation is 7 years. In my opinion Peak Oil hits in 2020. That’s how long it will take to work off this glut. Add in whatever Climate Change brings, and it may be the most interesting and horrifying time to live in ever.

        • messianicdruid August 24, 2017 at 4:40 pm #

          Are you being polite or do you capitalize that stuff for some other reason?

          I’ve been in great tribulation for decades.

        • messianicdruid August 24, 2017 at 5:09 pm #

          akmofo: “Israel is my Elysian Field. It is where my people are. It is where our history is. It is where every hill and every valley is charted in our collective memory and blood. It is where WE made OUR binding document — Where WE, THE TRIBE OF BROTHERS, made it OUR religion, our everything.”

          Is it where you are?

  60. Elrond Hubbard August 22, 2017 at 9:45 am #

    ‘In the end, we will win’: Trump vows to prolong war in Afghanistan in TV address

    thestar.com/news/world/2017/08/21/trump-to-outline-us-strategy-for-afghanistan-in-national-tv-addres…

    WASHINGTON—Declaring the U.S. will win “in the end,” U.S. President Donald Trump vowed Monday night to keep American troops fighting in Afghanistan despite his earlier inclination to withdraw. But he insisted the U.S. would not offer “a blank check” after 16 years of war, and he pointedly declined to say whether or when more troops might be sent.

    Just like his dad. Neither one knows when to pull out.

  61. volodya August 22, 2017 at 10:04 am #

    The most dangerous enemies are not from without but, the avaricious from within. That 95% top tax rate was not so much for revenue but, to prevent the rise of a cancerous Top 1% who, historically, will always use ill-gotten gain to buy political power. – Jim in Florida

    Yes indeed. One of the most perceptive comments. Look at places round the world where you see highly skewed distributions of income and wealth and what do you find? You see exactly this.

    So called “progressives” mewl about income and wealth inequality all the time. They say all the time that incomes “stagnated” for the discontented Trump supporter. These are lies and diversions from what ails America.

    There’s always been inequality and there always will be. The problem isn’t merely the fact of inequality. It goes deeper as Jim sez.

    For a huge proportion of the American population incomes plummeted in the last generation. To say that they merely stagnated is a huge lie. Remember our daddies that went to work at the mill or plant and were able to support a wife and family in a house with TV, telephone, indoor plumbing and a car. No more though and that’s the issue that fake progressives want to distract from.

    As Jim sez, that giant re-direction of wealth and income upwards served to buy out Washington and other national capitol legislatures and political parties, not just American. And this power was used to re-draw laws and treaties to re-configure world investment to exploit slave wage labor.

    • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 10:11 am #

      All true. But what made people think a precocious, ostentatious, morally and ethically deficient, reality TV star could run the country? Could “turn” it around? What made them think he was one of them? The man is as far away from them as is possible to be. It makes no sense, unless you view it through the prism of FOX News. Donald Trump is only possible after a generation of brain washing.

      • beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 10:37 am #

        Yes, I agree. I laughed at the foolishness of those who thought Trump was the man. Is that rational thinking? He was born wealthy, lived profligately and hobnobbed with the rich and powerful. Would he suddenly at age 70 go completely against his environment and help the commoners?

        • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 11:10 am #

          Bottom line is that FOX News has manufactured an entirely new generation of racists. That is their legacy, and they are proud of it. It is heartbreaking to see. All of those people in Charlottesville were young men, in their 20’s and 30’s. They were not bunch of old white guys. And they are going to be with us for the next 50 or 60 years.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:38 pm #

          It was desperation. No one else was even SAYING that they would help us. And he has some good ideas, like bringing back Corporations from overseas by lowing the Corporate tax and building the Wall. I think he has some sincerity, but obviously he’s going to be fought every step of the way. And he doesn’t want to end up with a hole in his head or that fate worse than death in his mind – being a loser.

          To really save us, he would have to declare martial law. He doesn’t seem to be Man enough to do that of course. And he surrounds himself with scumbags and appointed some of them too. His heart is well ahead of his head in other words. Jared and Ivanka are deadly enemies and Bannon his best friend.

          His life has many disparate elements. How many billionaires go to Military School? How many in millionaire neighborhoods, surrounded by Jews and Globalist Goys, would put up a giant American Flag? They told him to take it down and he told them to fuck themselves.

          • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 3:03 pm #

            You remind of the movie “The Wild One” with Marlon Brando. Before that motorcycle gangs were clean cut ex-GI’s who rode together to keep alive the camraderie that had formed between them in the war. Then, after the movie they all became offshoots of the Hell’s Angels. There was no one saying the kind of drivel that comes from the alt-right. No one. They conceived it. They fed it to you. You ate it up. And now all of you have become fine parrots. Parrot on Nationalist.

          • jhon August 22, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

            years ago,,a NS from Ohio ,i believe stated ‘it will take a mad man to fix this country,,a normal person would not be able to do what it takes’,,,

            oh well,,,

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 4:01 pm #

            So you admit that you are not for the American Nation? No borders Globalist Coca Cola commercial believer?

          • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 7:41 pm #

            I admit that I stole Johnny Touchet’s Valomilk when he wasn’t looking. Anything else I plead the 5th dimension. I hope they sell Coca Cola there.

    • beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 10:47 am #

      The Eisenhower tax program was only for show to convince the gullible that taxes were fair. In actuality, the maximum 91% rate (not 95%) had so many loopholes and deductions that no one paid close to that. In fact, the tax program was unfair to the middle class because many of the deductions only were available to the wealthy, and the middle-class rates were higher than today’s.

    • malthuss August 23, 2017 at 12:44 am #

      For a huge proportion of the American population incomes plummeted in the last generation.

      And the population doubled in less than 50? years????

      that ol (((1965))) thing.

  62. beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 10:20 am #

    All the current to-do about Washington, Lincoln and Jefferson slavery facts have been known forever and never hidden. Confederate statues have always been visible since they were erected.

    So I have to ask myself, why now? Why wasn’t this made a big deal of in the 1960’s counterculture revolution? Why now? Why not in 1954, say? Why not during the old civil rights movement? It appears to me to be obvious manipulation; something’s not right about the whole thing.

    I’d like to say I agree with the new opinions about the above three and about the statues. For me, Blacks seeing these statues is akin to having to see statues of concentration camp commandants. So I sympathize, but still, something’s amiss here. People in the background are pulling strings.

    Is it because the time is now right, as the American (White) public has declined?

    • malthuss August 22, 2017 at 10:41 am #

      . For me, Blacks seeing these statues is akin to having to see statues of concentration camp commandants..

      And for non Blacks to have to go to a MLK [street, school, library] or a Mandela school?? What about them?

      • beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 10:52 am #

        Think, Malthuss. The Blacks suffered under slavery, but the non-Blacks didn’t. Being forced to see MLK statues is no more than an annoyance, at worst, but seeing slavery statues would have to bring up painful memories for Blacks.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:43 pm #

          He was a Communist revolutionary and would have agreed with everything his brothers have done since. He had no problem with violent revolution obviously, but just thought that the peace shit was the better tactic. It worked: Whites couldn’t see thru it and the media didn’t want to see thru it.

          Now they are coming in for the kill. Are you willing to go against your own people to support us – the Nation that has been so good to you all? I’m not holding my breath.

          • malthuss August 23, 2017 at 12:46 am #

            painful memories for Blacks.–of what? some history book stuff?

      • jhon August 22, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

        same,,

    • JimInFlorida August 22, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

      bean, if somebody had the power to legally tie you down and regularly inject toxic material into your torso, is it any wonder that your body will feel bad, your handsome features turn ugly, and your mind become clouded to the point of insanity?

      The counter-culture and school desegregation did face resistance but, affluence was the morphine to deaden the effects of the poison. Now that affluence is long gone, the White body-politic is suffering and The Guilty have no intention of providing palliatives to their White Goy victim.

      To answer your question, the American (White) public has declined due to necrosis. The cause: mental psychosis allowing a 3rd Party to abuse the body with toxic substances.

      Whites should reserve the right to extract Justice in their last dying moments.

  63. volodya August 22, 2017 at 10:31 am #

    Elrond, the Taliban have a safe haven in Pakistan because Pushtun territory straddles both countries and because the border is highly permeable.

    So you can kill every Taliban in Afghanistan and seal the border such that not one Taliban flea passes and you will still have Pushtun and their Taliban fighters sitting happy and unmolested in Pakistan. And you will still have Pushtun in Afghanistan as a ready source for Taliban recruitment because, as we know, with this wonderful new world of electronic media, ideas travel fast.

    As it is the US is embroiled in a place that’s seen by multiple neighboring countries as their own backyard and they all meddle to secure their own advantage. Americans can flail in Afghanistan until the end of time and get nowhere.

    Americans unfortunately see foreign locales through a distorting lens of what concerns Americans. But what concerns Americans won’t be shared by people in those foreign places. Americans think that Afghanistan is all about the US. It isn’t, not even remotely. Those damned turbaned foreigners have got their own agendas.

    The suits in the Sate Dept think they know a lot. People like Leon Panetta say stuff like “we know how to do this”. No, they don’t know how to do this. Their calamitous results speak for themselves.

  64. beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 11:00 am #

    @DA:

    My intention was not to criticize you, just saying that jif is not a nice person.

    • JimInFlorida August 22, 2017 at 11:37 am #

      What is honey to you, janet, Elrond, et al is bitter to me and my fellows.

      Yes, I do present a vigorous and controversial defense of our interests. Which is interesting because we are now forced to fight for what was once rightfully ours through birthright and legacy.

      Those URL’s that started the above heated exchange are classic examples of a 3rd Party leveraging the grievances of a disgruntled faction to gain political muscle for themselves. That is social engineering masquerading as Do-Good activism.

      Trust me, I am only troubled when our benevolent host takes it personally and I have no such intention. My views address social problems AT LARGE. Even if you identify with the guilty party, I’m not interested in you, personally. I’m taking aim at THE MACHINE. Ad hominem attacks accomplish nothing… except against the ones at the very top who have the power to marshal vast resources to carry out their agendas.

      • beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 12:33 pm #

        Try to understand this, Jim: you don’t know me, but my life has been replete with ad hominem attacks because of myJewishness. I never said anything bad about Christianity, yet I have been verbally and physically attacked – personally – by people who barely knew me, and certainly didn’t know my character. I don’t belong to any Zionist organizations, never plotted anything and always just wanted to be left alone. I never gave anyone reason to hate me – except for my heritage, of which I had no control.

        So, given my life experience, don’t you think that maybe I take it personally and consider any attack upon Jews as an ad hominem attack? You might say ther’re some good Jews, but that’s not going to allow me to say, ” Oh, Jim isn’t attacking me personally, so I’m ok with his comments”.

        • beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

          And I’m not whining, or trying to make anyone feel guilty. What’s happened to me, the many fistfights I’ve had to become involved in to defend myself from harm, is water over the dam. I’ve strived to be mellow and focus on the good things in life.

          • akmofo August 22, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

            Bill, you need go to Israel. To visit at first if you like, but then permanently stay. That’s really the essence of Judaism.

            Psalm 133:1
            eene ma tov uma naeem shevet ahim gam yahad
            How good and pleasant a tribe of brothers together

            youtu.be/_iHV36-msVY

          • messianicdruid August 22, 2017 at 8:37 pm #

            @beantownbill I assume you are a friend – do not go to that place. The links akmofo ignored [ 8-20 3:17pm ] explain much, but it is no cakewalk, 34,117 words [ together ]. A word [ !?! ] to the wise.

          • akmofo August 23, 2017 at 8:42 am #

            @beantownbill

            You are living in the land of the dead.

            Bill, you say you’re Jewish. If you are, being in Israel your soul will immediately recognize LIFE.

            Choose life, Bill!

          • elysianfield August 23, 2017 at 11:19 am #

            “You are living in the land of the dead.

            Bill, you say you’re Jewish. If you are, being in Israel your soul will immediately recognize LIFE”

            Akmofo,

            Excellent! And where might the rest of the readership go to choose LIFE?

            Where is the diversity…the humanity?

          • akmofo August 23, 2017 at 1:16 pm #

            @ elysianfield

            “Excellent! And where might the rest of the readership go to choose LIFE?”

            That’s up to you.

            Israel is my Elysian Field. It is where my people are. It is where our history is. It is where every hill and every valley is charted in our collective memory and blood. It is where WE made OUR binding document — Where WE, THE TRIBE OF BROTHERS, made it OUR religion, our everything.

        • JimInFlorida August 22, 2017 at 12:45 pm #

          Now I have TWO people to feel remorse over when I go to war against The Machine. Our benevolent host and YOU.

          It’s going to be more difficult now to find the source of many problems and then find ways to identify them without bringing discredit upon you or JHK.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 2:54 pm #

            Back in Bill’s youth, more people knew the threat the Jews represented. But people forgot and the Jews triumphed over us. Attacking individual Jews is pretty silly of course, but they were frustrated no doubt. Why did the Elite let these people in to begin with? The eternal question. Jews have flourished here as they did in Ancient Rome. They hated Rome and they hate us nonetheless.

            Remember, Bill will brook not criticism of anything his people do. He is a foot soldier and he is trying to make you feel guilty. He feels none – ever.

          • JimInFlorida August 22, 2017 at 7:35 pm #

            Hey Janos,

            I’m on very thin ice so, I have to tread lightly; that I might live to comment another day.

  65. akmofo August 22, 2017 at 12:14 pm #

    Really sad political stupidity by Trump. He’s now finished:

    youtube.com/watch?v=9f1un1Q1kPs

    • FincaInTheMountains August 22, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

      We should not rush to hasty conclusions.

      Even Vladimir Lenin, the great political tactician, was forced to sign a Brest Peace Agreement as not to lose everything.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk

      So, Trump has thrown the Army and Banking the juicy bone of Opium feeding grounds.

      It is also very important to the US European “allies” – they always compete for the juiciest area of responsibility in Afghanistan.

      • akmofo August 22, 2017 at 1:14 pm #

        Sorry, I don’t see the analog here. The Soviets pulled out of the war to satisfy their constituent. Trump is doing exactly opposite. He’s finished politically. Nobody will believe in him now or anything he says.

        • FincaInTheMountains August 22, 2017 at 1:22 pm #

          The Soviets pulled out of the war to satisfy their constituent

          No.

          The Soviets pulled out of Afghanistan because they “lost” a Cold War, and were about to lose the Red Empire – the USSR – and the number one task of sane Russian political leadership was to keep the Russian Federation in one piece in which they splendidly succeeded.

        • FincaInTheMountains August 22, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

          By the way, if not for the betrayal of high officials in Politburo and the Fifth Department of the KGB (half of which incidentally wound up in USA), the Russian troops could’ve easily end Afghanistan campaign in Riyadh.

          • akmofo August 22, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

            Yeah, only I don’t think they had with them clothing for a nuclear winter.

    • FincaInTheMountains August 22, 2017 at 1:10 pm #

      Sooner or later – and I hope sooner – people who are responsible for pushing cheap heroin on the street corners of American and Russian cities will have to answer for their horrific crimes.

      And we all know where the cheap heroin is coming from.

      • benr August 24, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

        Yea Mexico at least in the UNITED STATES!
        Afghanistan heroin goes to Asia and Europe.

  66. Pucker August 22, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

    According to Bob Woodward’s book “Obama’s Wars”, Obama early in his presidency wanted to pull out of Afghanistan, but basically the US military told Obama to fuck off. As a compromise, Obama promised to do “The Surge”, sending in 30,000 more US ground troops. Obama set a deadline for withdrawal if “The Surge” didn’t work. Again, the Generals told Obama to fuck off.

  67. Cavepainter August 22, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

    Curious to me how in these times when the religiosity of “established religions” has been abandoned there’s such attraction to what can only be considered proto or pseudo religions in that they pronounce aim of creating a universal epiphany among all societies and people that instantly attains peace and harmony not different from what is describe as prevailing following Christ’s “second coming”. Example:
    Bosque Hrbek, founder of the Symbiosis Gathering offers this platitude, “We are all one, and we are all different, too,” Hrbek said. “The point is to celebrate that diversity.”

    Not different, that is, from all Utopian schemes that have been hatched by countless numbers of messiahs in contradiction of the harsh realities evident through historical record of societal conflict over contradictory beliefs, values and resources

    Curious too how “political speak” today has taken on a religious like intensity which contends distinction between heaven/hell absolutes rather than the unsavory choices imposed by the ostensible limitations of reality. Seems to me that the the increasing harshness of choices now being forced by overpopulation attempting to squeeze through an ever narrowing window of survival is triggering a reflex in the human psyche to withdraw into fanciful, quasi mystical sanctums for the kind of relief that religion has always offered against reality.

    America’s political scene today is splintered along lines based less on scholarly objective reading of history but rather on plucking selective pieces which enforce respective justifying mythology.

  68. janet August 22, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

    Good news! The race war has been postponed until after Labor Day.

    • JimInFlorida August 23, 2017 at 9:43 pm #

      One can hope that a supernatural awakening will let the races discover the true meaning of what Labor Day represents.

      Then, by class consciousness, we can find common ground and join forces to fight our common enemy. The Top 1% and their mercenaries in management.

      There’s enough for everybody to be comfortable, including rewards to those who innovate. If there is scarcity, it is because far too much money is chasing the Top 1%. No one person or faction should have the wherewithal to buy political favors, thus distorting the political process and setting up rentier schemes that steal from the domestic worker in countless ways.

      If I were POTUS, I’d see to it that the Dept. of Labor is fully staffed 100% with a cross-section of Labor Union people and to codify that requirement into the Department’s charter. The NLRB would remain independent but,maintain quarterly meetings with the DOL to ensure coordination of efforts towards the common goal of protecting American workers from abuse and safety problems in the workplace, foreign dumping, and other things that negatively affect domestic employment..

      That way, regardless of who is POTUS, at least one part of the Federal Government has the power, and is required, to ACTIVELY protect the American worker.

  69. messianicdruid August 22, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

    Bruce E says, “I’m guessing if that [ secession of an individual or group of states ] were to happen, Trump would not feel the slightest hesitation or perceive the slightest bit of hypocrisy to go all Abraham Lincoln on us for doing so…”

    Are you admitting that Lincoln committed Treason in pursuing his mercantilist war?

    • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 2:56 pm #

      Nope. Not treason. What Lincoln did was consistent with his views that the Union was necessary, that the singularity of “We the people” and the protection of the rights of individuals was more important to uphold than the limited sovereignty of a multiplicity of states. What he did was true to an honest and faithful interpretation of the Constitution of the United States of America and a reflection of a belief with a practical level of conviction attached to it. I don’t perceive hypocrisy at the base of Lincoln’s intentions.

      Do I still believe that a singular Union of “We the people” and protection of individual rights is more important than the sovereignty of the state? Yes, I do. My inclinations to desire secession from the circus in Washington are based in emotion, and I recognize them as such. If I actually went out and tried my best to get New York and/or California and/or Massachusetts and/or a handful of other states to secede, based on this emotion, then yes–that would be hypocrisy to my stated belief. I would both hesitate before doing so as well as recognize that hypocrisy in myself were I to pursue such a project.

      • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 4:08 pm #

        And one more thing: were I to pursue such a project of secession, in addition to hesitation and a recognition of hypocrisy would be a recognition that what i was doing was treasonous to the United States of America.

        • messianicdruid August 22, 2017 at 8:52 pm #

          In the same way that the signers of the Declaration of Independence were treasonous to the King of England? IOW – do you denigrate their reasons for separation while aggrandizing your own for not?

          • Q. Shtik August 22, 2017 at 10:35 pm #

            while aggrandizing your own for [not]?

            ==========

            I assume you mean for [naught]

          • messianicdruid August 23, 2017 at 4:00 pm #

            “I assume you mean for [naught]”

            Not “pursue[ing] a project of secession”.

          • benr August 24, 2017 at 12:43 pm #

            Much of the same reasoning was being used by the South for breaking away from the Union.
            Don’t believe me look it up.

      • akmofo August 23, 2017 at 7:31 am #

        Lincoln was an imperialist, a racist, a Vatican bankster who impoverished millions with his greenbacks, a war criminal and a mass murderer. He had ZERO concern for blacks or their condition. Everything he did was to advance the Vatican bankster agenda and takeover of the country. The made up propaganda attributing any kind of loftiness in his action is just that, made up propaganda.

        • elysianfield August 23, 2017 at 11:25 am #

          Akmofo,
          Your statement is just a bit more cynical than I can accept….

          • akmofo August 23, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

            Tom Woods on Lincoln:
            youtu.be/2Ud4IMdGAD4

            Wikipedia:

            Thomas Ernest Woods Jr. (born August 1, 1972) is an American historian, political commentator, author, and podcaster.[1][2] Woods is a New York Times Best-Selling author and has published twelve books.[1] He has written extensively on subjects including the history of the United States, Catholicism, contemporary politics, and economics. Although not an economist himself, Woods is a proponent of the Austrian School of economics.[3] He hosts two podcasts, the libertarian Tom Woods Show and Contra Krugman.[2][4]

          • akmofo August 23, 2017 at 5:17 pm #

            Stefan Molyneux: The Truth About Abraham Lincoln

            youtu.be/c-W5fGCAzOk

            You can also add ‘most corrupt fascist crook with no moral compass’ to that list describing Lincoln. The more I learn about him, the more I’m disgusted by him and those who mythologized him with lies.

        • seawolf77 August 23, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

          Lincoln believed the Vatican instigated the Civil War.
          jamesjpn.net/government/abraham-lincolns-views-about-rome-the-pope-the-vatican-the-jesuits-and-their…

          • benr August 24, 2017 at 12:53 pm #

            England was attempting to destroy the Union out of fear that Democracy might take root in England.
            How many times did the United states have to fight the English prior to the Civil war?
            Do you thin England’s designs on the colonies ended with the American revolution or the war of 1812?

  70. janet August 22, 2017 at 2:41 pm #

    Pakistan needs to become civilized, said the golden shower loving pussy grabber in chief.

    • beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 3:31 pm #

      It’s much better to be pissed off rather than pissed on.

      • janet August 22, 2017 at 5:15 pm #

        Given the number of times we have violated Pakistan’s national sovereignty, Pakistan has a right to be pissed at Trump calling Pakistanis barbarians.

        Trump does not have an AUMF. His actions are illegal

  71. FincaInTheMountains August 22, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

    All the President’s Speech

    Yesterday Trump delivered a speech about Afghanistan, in which he said that he had a plan for this unfortunate country, but he would not tell anyone, except he clearly emphasized promise to attack. Then, as the Russians say, battle in Crimea, all in smoke, nothing is clear!

    When the smoke cleared a bit, personally I saw that the fight was still going on in the Crimea.

    Indeed, at first it became clear that Trump was going to attack nuclear Pakistan, for this he was going to help nuclear India on the verge of a nuclear war with China, which could receive Iranian oil only through Pakistan if the United States blocked the Strait of Malacca.

    And for some reason it was remembered that the US wants to force nuclear China to nuclearly disarm the nuclear North Korea, which supplied Pakistan with missiles necessary for the delivery of nuclear munitions, for which the maneuvers imitating the US and South Korea’s invasion of the North are being conducted at its border. It became clear that Trump did not want to announce the Anaconda-2.0 plan, only this time the strangulation of not the USSR, but of China.

    But since the reason for not announcing of this plan was Afghanistan, in which the US Army has been fighting for 17 years, and Pakistan and Iran are allies of China, the territory of Russia is the only way to supply the American Army for reasonable money.

    Otherwise, it will be necessary to carry supplies either by air, that is, 10 times more expensive or with three overloads through Georgia, Azerbaijan, the Caspian Sea, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, which is more expensive only about 6 times than the way through Russia.

    The problem is that when the inexperienced President Trump proposed Putin bargain “lifting sanctions – a betrayal of China, Iran and Syria,” it turned out that he does not think about it at all.

    Hillary brought the relationship of Russia and the United States to such an asshole that Putin could offer Trump in response to his really warm feelings toward Russia only the absence of nuclear bombing of American cities. And in this situation, Russia can not refuse such allies as China, and apart from regional armistice in Syria, assistance in supplying the US Army in Afghanistan is almost the only opportunity for Russia and the United States to cooperate in the fight against Islamic fundamentalism.

    Unfortunately, the Americans and the so-called political elite of the United States are completely unaware of these circumstances and want to arrange a second Cold War, stupidly thinking that it will end just like the first. Therefore, before Trump begins to somehow change the trend, which Minister Lavrov very diplomatically calls “the Obama administration”, Americans should get really scared, and Kim Jong-un in this sense made an outstanding contribution to the cause of World Peace.

    In addition, it would be nice for Americans to remember who was an ally of America in World War II, and who was her enemy, and I can testify that, without additional reminders, Americans remember who bombed them on September 11, 2001, and no Michael Moore could convince them otherwise.

    In this case, conspiracy theories only add to the Americans’ anger, but do not change anything, since the knowledge of what happened is based on the supersensible perception of the collective conscious of the US. And the fact that it was awakened under the influence of this event personally for me is unquestionable, although the very fact of its existence has become a big surprise.

    Actually, it became clear already in 1998, when the newspaper Le Nouvel Observateur asked the chief architect of the US victory in the Cold War whether it was worth provoking the Afghan war if this led to the creation of Islamic fundamentalism in the person of Osama bin Laden. And the second time I felt the presence of a collective conscious in America on the day of his assassination, which brings us back to Trump’s speech and to Zbig’s answer to the question of Le Nouvel Observateur.

    He replied that the destruction of the USSR can not be compared with the appearance of Al Qaida, which from his point of view was then no more than a regional force, but Trump was elected the president of the United States by the people who categorically disagree with him.

    And Trump in his speech yesterday showed that he does not intend to abandon his main election promise to abandon the policy of “regime-change” and focus on America’s national interests. And they – American National Interests – are the main ally of Russia, much more important than the friendly feelings of Trump, especially since 2 years after this interview, Osama bin Laden very theatrically denied Zbig’s thesis about the regionalism of Islamic fundamentalism, while the modernization of the Russian Strategic and Submarine Missile Force neutralizes the American joy from the disintegration of the USSR, especially as recent events have shown, the availability of means for delivering nuclear warheads by N. Korea, and the very existence of these warheads are also the result of the collapse of the USSR.

    Now at US are aimed far more warheads than in 1989, plus the Islamic State and the need to compete with such an economic giant as China.

  72. 100th Avatar August 22, 2017 at 3:44 pm #

    Hopefully the SS SOS, AKA SS John McCain will be scuttled. Rather karmic the synchronisticy. Who would have thought such a providentially christened warship would float blindly into a foolishly disasterous situation?

  73. Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 3:50 pm #

    Why we fight. These quotes will chill you blood.

    whitegenocideproject.com/what-anti-whites-say/

  74. tucsonspur August 22, 2017 at 4:05 pm #

    Saw an interesting show on the mafia and the KKK. How the KKK supported prohibition, how the mob used it. How Jews controlled all the major movie studios from the get go, and “glorified” the gangster and attacked the clan.

    It mentioned “The House I Live In” 1945, with Frank Sinatra. A plea for diversity.

    Also the anti clan “Storm Warning” 1951, with Ronald Reagan, Doris Day, and Ginger Rogers. Good Noir.

    How the FBI used mob capo Gregory Scarpa, also known as the Grim Reaper, to go down South, kidnap, torture, and beat the shit out of some hard nosed clansman, thus finding out the location of the bodies of the 3 civil rights workers.

    Here’s “Storm Warning”:

    youtube.com/watch?v=QRVZndMCNuA

  75. Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 5:14 pm #

    Just a few gems from above to honor and please our Leftist posters.

    For Bruce:

    Whether or not your individual ancestors owned slaves, you as a White person have benefited from slavery and are complicit in it. Sorry.

    We should commit mass suicide.”

    [sources – 1, 2, 3]

    Adam Kotsko, assistant humanities professor at Shimer College, Illinois.

    • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 5:42 pm #

      I’ve never denied that I, personally, have benefited and still do benefit from slavery. I live in the North, who benefited more from slavery (and maintaining slavery legal in the South while illegal in the North, which was important) than did the South, and whose historical dominance and economic inertia still gets leveraged over the South to this day (think Wall Street, and import/export, and where the banks send all the money they loan into existence).

      In fact, there’s a name for this continued benefit from my heritage: it’s called privilege.

      The solution to privilege is not mass suicide of the privileged. The solution is (1) to recognize that privilege exists, (2) to recognize where it came from, (3) recognize the privilege as fundamentally unjust, and (4) work towards justice and a time where no person is privileged based on where they were born and/or what color their skin is and/or whether they are XY or XX or XXY or XYY chromosomed and/or how those chromosomes combined with other things combine to form one’s self-views concerning gender and sexuality and/or who raised them and what religious/areligious/irreligious views surrounded them when they grew up and/or what kinds of foods they are really good at making because they were taught by three generations how to do it. (Well, that last part could privilege a restaurateur over someone else without the privilege causing injustice.)

      • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 5:59 pm #

        And just in case you were wondering, I enjoy almost all of the privileges available to any given American:

        -White privilege
        -Male privilege
        -Gender identity not conflicting with birth certificate privilege
        -Heterosexual privilege
        -(Raised) Christian privilege
        -Born in USA privilege
        -Born in late 60’s, raised in (localized/insulated) peace/prosperity 70’s/80’s/90’s privilege
        -Educated in small-town public school privilege
        -Raised by middle class hard working parents privilege
        -Parents stuck together and didn’t get divorced privilege
        -College education privilege (relatively cheap government-funded school to boot)
        -US military 1st real career-enhancing job out of college, great for resume privilege (US military officers, at least the program I was in, was a nice government jobs program for white men with technical degrees and no relevant experience to get a civilian job in the early 90’s)
        -Not getting arrested, or even shot, that one time when I was 19 years old driving erratically and recklessly with beer in the trunk privilege

        About the only kind of privilege I don’t have is the exaggerated kind like your man Trump was born with, where I was given a huge company to run worth tens/hundreds of millions of dollars and then patted myself on the back because I didn’t run it into the ground.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 6:29 pm #

          So? Yeah? Well? Why are you still alive? Why haven’t you killed yourself or at least gone back to Europe? Oh I get it: you’re hoping that supporting the deaths of other Whites will be atonement enough for your Dark Gods.

          It won’t be.

          • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 6:38 pm #

            You are the only one proposing death as a solution to anything, Janos.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 7:10 pm #

            That’s ridiculous: your quote says for Whites to kill themselves. And many of the quotes from minorities say that Whites will have to be killed. Try to tell the Truth for a change – you might grow to like it.

          • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 7:27 pm #

            The quote that you quotemined, because it suits your purposes, not “my” quote, says “We should commit mass suicide.” The capital W in “White” I suspect you put there, not the original quoter, but if it was there in the original then it’s probably not who you think it is.

            In fact, you probably just wrote it down yourself and figured I wouldn’t check your sources. You would be right about that. Your sources are worthless.

            Stop trying to gaslight me, Janos. Stop trying to get me to kill myself. Seriously? You think I’m a fucking teenage boy and you’re my Michelle Carter, and I’d do anything to please you?

            Stop it with the trolling, the inciting, the call for violence (asking me to kill myself is a call for violence). Fucking grow up. Build something. Invent something. Get a fucking life. Get a fucking job. Stop your fucking whining about how the “Blacks” and the “Jews” want to kill your “White” ass.

            Get over yourself already.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 7:51 pm #

            Don’t kill the messenger, Bruce. I’m just passing on what your allies want you to do. And the quotes are real – as you well know. It’s up to you to explain them or explain why you don’t condemn them. And if you don’t, why you don’t obey them.

          • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 8:01 pm #

            You’re no messenger. They are not my allies. I’m sure that you hear what you want to hear.

            How about this for inciting violence, in a “kill yourself” sort of way: Grow up. Get married. Raise some shitty rascist children who tattoo swastikas on their necks just like their father. GROW. A. FUCKING. LAWN. Have a shitty marriage because you treat her like shit because you don’t know she’s your equal and you don’t know she’s to good for the likes of you. Get divorced. Pay alimony. Pay child support. Watch your kids drown in self pity just like their old man, while they blame the “Blacks” and the “Jews” for their lot in life and capitalize the W’s every time they type “White” when they gaslight people online. Get a drinking problem. Wallow in self pity. Blame everybody but yourself for your lot in life.

            Grow old. Die. And may your spirit live long enough to see nobody goes to your fucking funeral.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 8:08 pm #

            Lay down with dogs and get up with fleas, Bruce. You have wallowed with the Swine in a far country long enough. Why don’t you rise up and go unto your Father and ask his forgiveness?

            As you know, Dante puts traitors in one of the lowest rungs of Hell.

          • seawolf77 August 23, 2017 at 7:31 am #

            Dante was an overrated dufus, like Dufus Donald he thinks if it escapes his lips it is pure gold. Wrong. He just burped is all.

  76. Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 5:16 pm #

    For Bill:

    “If white men were not complaining, it would be an indication we weren’t succeeding and making the inroads that we are.”

    Arthur Sulzberger Junior, owner of The New York Times

    • beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

      You know nothing about who I am; I’m not a leftist, God forbid. I’m just a Bill.

      What was the context of the quote? Could it be a comment on improving Black lives, rather than a knock on Whites? Just asking.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 6:32 pm #

        You’re just a Bill and he’s just an Arthur, but I’m sure you two would get along. Here’s a Noel who is even more clear:

        Abolish the White Race – By Any Means Necessary”
        “The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the White race.”
        “so long as the White race exists, all movements against racism are doomed to fail.”
        “Treason to Whiteness is loyalty to humanity.”

        [source – racetraitor.org/abolish.html%5D

        “We’ll keep bashing the dead White males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as the White race is destroyed. Not deconstructed, but destroyed.”
        “The goal of abolishing the White race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed White supremacists.”

        [source – harvardmagazine.com/2002/09/abolish-the-white-race.html%5D

        Noel Ignatiev, Harvard Professor.

        • Bruce E August 22, 2017 at 6:41 pm #

          These people are baiting you, Janos, for an emotional reaction. They’re gaslighting you. They’re trolling. And it’s obviously working.

          And you know it’s effective, because it’s the same tactic you use with your capital W’s and B’s and your swastikas and the rooftop of the General Lee (the car, not the actual person).

        • beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 6:48 pm #

          Everyone ought to know that Harvard professors are nutty. What about the other 325 million people in the country? Are they all plotting to wipe out the White race?

          I repeat: you do not know me. I don’t read the NYT and I don’t know anything about the owner. I don’t believe I’d get along with him. Just FYI, I don’t read the Boston Globe, either.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 7:32 pm #

            “Europe has not yet learned to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.“

            [source – 1, 2]

            Barbara Spectre, US actress living in Sweden, interview with IBA-News

            Never mind about others – your people are at the Centre of all of it. I have yet to hear you disavow them.

        • elysianfield August 23, 2017 at 11:35 am #

          “We’ll keep bashing the dead Black males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as the Black race is destroyed. Not deconstructed, but destroyed.”
          “The goal of abolishing the Black race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed Black supremacists.”

          “Bubba Ignatiev”, Kracka Kommunity Kollege…the Harvard of Tupeo Miss.

          No, even the KKK would not own the above….

  77. Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 5:19 pm #

    For Janet:

    All I want for Christmas is White Genocide.
    To clarify: when the whites were massacred during the Haitian revolution, that was a good thing indeed.”

    [sources – 1, 2, 3, 4]

    George Ciccariello-Maher, professor of politics and global studies at Drexel University, Philadelphia.

  78. Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 5:25 pm #

    For ak:

    “Racist White woman I could kick your face, puncture both eyes. You deserve this kind of violence.”

    Haunani-Kay Trask, professor of Hawaiian Studies.

    [source – extract of a poem by Haunani-Kay Trask]

  79. Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 5:27 pm #

    For Elrond:

    Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Balanchine ballets, et al. don’t redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history.”

    [Source – Partisan Review, Winter 1967, p. 57.]

    Susan Sontag, writer, filmmaker, professor.

    • malthuss August 23, 2017 at 12:36 am #

      Perhaps the reason DS was ‘banned’ is it went against the Jews multicult push?

      Emma Lazarus, the jewess who wrote the inscription inside Lady Liberty, saw the statue as the “MOTHER OF EXILES,” because historically, jews had been expelled over 100 times from different localities, some, more than once, ALWAYS “unfairly”, of course.
      The victimhood jews excel in and focus on perpetually, compelled her to say,
      “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses … the wretched refuse” etc…
      In reality, Emma was a super-rich jew, from a family around since colonial times. Her father, deeply tied to sugar production, more in Brazil which was 90% of the slave trade vs America’s South, just 5% — It’s hard to imagine he wasn’t in the slave trade. Also, Emma herself was a hardcore zionist.
      She wanted a race-based homeland for jews only, and yet she wanted America to take in the “poor, huddled, masses”. Being very wealthy in JewYork, Emma had many hip and trendy writer friends, in the way rich girls do. But the bottom line here is, Emma was a racist and deeply connected to abusive slave holders, a total hypocrite with no moral right whatsoever to instruct Whites who they should allow into their country.

      dailystormer.com/cnns-jim-acosta-thinks-that-the-poem-at-the-base-of-the-statue-of-liberty-is-a-law-…

      I strongly believe that Lazarus was awarded opportunity for the poem by influence (or directly by) (((August “fake name” Belmont))) who headed the financing of the erection of statute.
      BTW Lazarus family home is on West 10th Street in Manhattan’s Greenwich Village (huge plaque is on building, but of course). Home is a palatial brownstone.
      Yeah, she really knows about poverty. Such bs.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 23, 2017 at 1:40 am #

        Well, they’ve hit a lot of people. A vast coordinated attack, long planned with the death of Heather Heyer used as an excuse. Most of the internet companies who dumped him blamed his article making fun of Heather’s weight problem of course. But it’s really because he talks about the Jews – and they’re scared of the same thing happening to them.

      • akmofo August 24, 2017 at 9:22 am #

        “She wanted a race-based homeland for jews only,…”

        Have you been to Israel or care to learn of its multitude of persons. Chinese looking, Japanese looking, Indian looking, Arab looking, African looking, South American looking, European looking, Russian looking, and on and on. All Israeli Jews. (Which should tell you, “race” is a fake and contrived pseudoscience).

        You don’t realize this, but your envy, malice, and cheap pleasure propagating lies is rotting you alive. The thrill you get and crave parroting nazi propaganda is the zombification of your soul. It works exactly like Heroin. As are the results.

  80. Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 5:30 pm #

    For Sea Wolf:

    “And then finally I want to say that we need one idea, and we’re not thinking about a solution to the problem … And the one idea is, how we are going to exterminate White people because that in my estimation is the only conclusion I have come to. We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet.“

    [sources – 1, 2]

    Kamau Kambon, former professor of African-American Studies.

  81. Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 5:33 pm #

    I tried to fit your quotes to your particular area of interest. Bill, the Jews, Sea Wolf, the Blacks, Elrond, race theory, Ak, direct action, etc. If any of you don’t like your quotes, let me know and I’ll try to find you a better one. Or you can go to the site and pick one out that you like.

    • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 7:33 pm #

      You are truly the Mozart of Racism, directing your propaganda like it was a fine orchestra. No there was no particular “Kill all the Honky’s” quote that caught my fancy, but I’m fickle. I do have one question. What are the infamous white genocides? Can you list those for us instead?

      • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 7:58 pm #

        French Revolution, Russian Revolution, the Irish Famine, the Ukrainian Holodomor, the Haitian genocide of Whites by Blacks, the destruction of whole Celtic Tribes (hundreds of thousands of people in each) by the Multi-Racial Roman Empire, the Armenian Genocide (if Armenians are to be considered White that is).

        These are some of the genocides by Whites by Non-Whites or by Whites infected with alien ideologies like Communism or Capitalism.

        Do you doubt that these quotations are real? Bruce is trying to weasel out that way.

        • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 10:43 pm #

          I don’t see any black or brown races pulling the lever on those guillotines, I see white men killing white men. Perhaps you see something I don’t. Please share it with me.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 23, 2017 at 1:45 am #

            Haiti. And Russia from our pov at least (Jews). Thousands have been killed in South Africa and Zimbabwe since the Blacks took over, but it’s not a genocide yet. Stay tuned.

            But yes, we’ve been so powerful for so long that we’ve been our own worst enemy. But we’ve made too many mistakes and they’re all catching up to us now.

            Mongols slaughtered huge Caucasian populations, though more the Browns than Whites. But there may have been some of that in Russia.

          • seawolf77 August 23, 2017 at 7:29 am #

            There has never been a white genocide and you know it. Facts are fatuous fuckers. They don’t bend to your world view. So stop dropping your ludicrous flyers about something that has never happened and never will happen.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 23, 2017 at 12:28 pm #

            So large numbers of Whites have never been to death? That’s a lie, you pos.

    • JimInFlorida August 22, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

      Hey Janos,

      I’m on very thin ice so, I have to tread lightly; that I might live to comment another day.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 7:52 pm #

        Understood. Discretion is the better part of valor much of the time.

        • seawolf77 August 22, 2017 at 7:58 pm #

          If Kim Kardashian had only known that, the world would be bereft of the world’s biggest ass: Kanye West. A little white supremacy humor to tinkle your twiddle dee and binky your tweedle dum.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 22, 2017 at 8:03 pm #

            She really doesn’t look very White at all – her face that is. Her asinine surgery and current bodily shape is simply too ridiculous to contemplate. She stoops to conquer the savages.

  82. janet August 22, 2017 at 9:33 pm #

    Janos, I am opposed to genocide. Please omit me from your quote fest.

    I stand for mixed race marriages, affirmative action, integration, diversity, feminism, sarvodaya, satyagraha, multiculturalism, and political correctness.

    Political correctness does not approve of white genocide or genocide of any race, even privileged ones.

    • JimInFlorida August 23, 2017 at 4:12 pm #

      Everything you stand for is directly hostile towards Whites and only results in genocide of the same.

      No flower garden or vegetable garden can survive if somebody is deliberately sowing weeds and pests into it.

      Whites do best when they are allowed to establish a monoculture and the results are spectacularly beautiful. And that is the one thing your kind cannot allow. Every lesser ethnicity, mongrelized group, sexual deviant, social misfit, and Leftist political faction may have their own space.

      But NOT WHITES, eh?

      • seawolf77 August 25, 2017 at 8:15 am #

        As part of our indoctrination when I worked at Honeywell, they showed us a film where they took an acre of land and divied it up 40 times. In each little plot they planted a combination of plants. Some plots had only one plant, some had two, some had three and so on and so forth. Then they stress tested it. Denied the plants water. Denied them sunlight. Put bugs on them. The plots that did the best were the most diverse.

  83. messianicdruid August 22, 2017 at 9:37 pm #

    “There is always common ground for those who dare to seek it.”

    As usual, we are [ ALL ] being played.

    oftwominds.bmobilized.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oftwominds.com%2Fblogaug17%2Fcultural-war8-17.html

    • Walter B August 22, 2017 at 10:33 pm #

      Indeed md, I have had CHS on my favorites for quite a while and he always makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately for the bulk of the Common American Idiots, they have been diverted, distracted, doped and drunked up to the point where they cannot even look into their own underpants and understand WTF is actually in there in the first place. There are far too many that are no longer capable of doing anything but what they are told to do by the talking heads on the screen and even worse, there are far too many that absolutely DO NOT CARE about ANYTHING at all. This nation has far too many people in it that are completely and totally worthless and can no longer be carried on the backs of those who are still willing and capable of shouldering the burden. Those of us who see it are greatly saddened to realize it, but insurmountable tasks set against undefeatable odds can only result in failure. All we can do is “quit ye like men”. Good luck my friend.

    • beantownbill. August 23, 2017 at 12:03 am #

      True. CHS is most like JHK, imo. Note he speaks of distractions, which I’ve been saying for a long time, if you’ve ever read my comments here. How could I not like him?

  84. Pucker August 22, 2017 at 10:03 pm #

    Congress recently passed a Sanctions Bill against Russia, which the Russians have declared is tantamount to a declaration of war. Meanwhile, the US people are being callously manipulated into a Race War. Very ugly…. The economy must be all fucked up? According to the book “The CIA as Organized Crime”, the “Deep State” is dependent on the drug trade. Afghanistan is by far the top producer of opium. There’s an epidemic of opiate and heroin use in the US. Very ugly….

    Some people think that it’s all laid bare on the DNC computers and on Hillary’s Clinton Foundation bathroom server, which may explain why the FBI won’t look at the computers? It’d pit the FBI against the entire US Government.

  85. Pucker August 22, 2017 at 10:52 pm #

    During one of the Jerry Lewis Muscular Dystrophy Telethons, Jerry Lewis, sucking on a cigarette and just before playing a maudlin piano tune, announced his Utopian dream that one day he’d be able to engage in a foot race to the bus stop with one of his Muscular Dystrophy kids and the kid would win. The Jerry Lewis Muscular Dystrophy Telethons were coterminous with LBJ’s Great Society programs and the Civil Rights Movement.

  86. Pucker August 22, 2017 at 10:54 pm #

    Socrates said that “Comedy is the Art of making fun of inferior people.”

    The Reality is too horrible for people to accept.

  87. Pucker August 22, 2017 at 10:57 pm #

    I miss The Jerry Lewis Muscular Dystrophy Telethons. They were always “A Hoot”.

  88. BackRowHeckler August 22, 2017 at 11:15 pm #

    When we’ve finished smashing Confederate Monuments and burning Confederate books … then come the Show Trials.

    We’re starting over at Year 0!

    Taquira Jackson
    BLM Battalion Commander

    • beantownbill. August 22, 2017 at 11:54 pm #

      That’s some scary stuff, Marlin. But like the hippies and their 1960’s counterculture revolution, her wishes will never happen; they’re just wishful thinking talk.

      • BackRowHeckler August 23, 2017 at 12:09 am #

        I think you’re right, Bill …

        Still, its fun to take an idea like that from a earlier time and a different place and fool around with it.

        Hopefully this zeal to smash and vandalize century old monuments (in the case of the Columbus monument in Baltimore 225 years old) will burn itself out before too much more damage is done.

        brh

  89. Pucker August 22, 2017 at 11:52 pm #

    Richard Weikart’s book “Hitler’s Religion” gives an excellent portrayal of Hitler as a cynical politician who manipulated people and religion. If some US politicians are anything like Hitler, then they would have known that the Great Society programs and the Civil Rights Movement would fail miserably “from the Git-Go.” LBJ cynically referred to The Voting Rights Act as “The Nigger Bill”.

    It was all a Big Joke to them.

    • seawolf77 August 23, 2017 at 7:44 am #

      Hitler was a Roman Catholic. The German people still get tithed 8 or 9 % of their incomes to the Vatican to the tune of $5 Billion dollars a year.

      • Sean Coleman August 23, 2017 at 11:55 am #

        Can’t German catholics opt out of the tax?

        Tithes had to be paid in Catholic Ireland to the Anglican Church of Ireland until the early 19thC as I recall. That was different because they had no choice.

        As for Hitler being a Catholic the following should help to clarify, in particular the extracts from Hitler’s Table Talk.

        irishsalem.blogspot.ie/

      • Janos Skorenzy August 23, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

        No, he was born Catholic but left the Church, believing that Christianity was a degenerate influence on the German People. He probably left mentally in his teens, perhaps going thru the motions to please his beloved mother when he still lived at home.

        If you can make that big a mistake, why would anyone trust your figures?

        • seawolf77 August 23, 2017 at 12:41 pm #

          “Adolf Hitler son of the Catholic Church died while defending Christianity. It is therefore understandable that words cannot be found to lament over his death, when so many were found to exalt his life. Over his mortal remains stands his victorious figure. with the palm of the martyr, God gives Hitler the laurels of Victory.”
          General Francisco Franco

          • Janos Skorenzy August 23, 2017 at 2:36 pm #

            Franco didn’t like the Nazis, but had to accept aid form them since the West had spurned him. “We” were solidly on the side of the Communist, the Priest killers, the Nun rapers – the guys who would then dig their bodies up weeks later and then display them with obscene or mocking placards. People like you in other words.

            So why was Franco lying? Political expedience no doubt – assuming your quote is accurate. But he wasn’t entirely wrong: Hitler did die fighting the demonic forces and was indirectly on the side of Christianity in that sense.

          • seawolf77 August 23, 2017 at 2:48 pm #

            A world leader calls Hitler the spawn of the Catholic Church. The Holy See was the first nation to acknowledge Germany with the ReichsConcordat in July of 1933, 6 months after Hitler came to power. Vatican ratlines carried the Nazi’s to South America after the war. And you think Hitler wasn’t a Catholic. I’m going to have to say you’re utterly full of shit.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 23, 2017 at 2:52 pm #

            Pius the 12th wrote several encyclicals against National Socialism. No one who knows what they’re talking about believes that Church and Nazism were allies. But of course Hitler didn’t want a rebellion at home, so he tolerated them for the time being. Had he lived, He planned to phase out the Church over time. When did he schedule the Youth Groups? Sunday mornings. Think Sea Wolf.

          • seawolf77 August 23, 2017 at 2:58 pm #

            Pope Pius XII had a book written about him called “Hitler’s Pope” by a man who had set out to exonerate the Vatican, which gave him unprecedented access, and he was shocked by what he found. The Vatican created Hitler, Franco, Mussolini and Pavelic. You are flat out wrong.

          • Sean Coleman August 23, 2017 at 5:17 pm #

            “Adolf Hitler son of the Catholic Church died while defending Christianity.”

            Who says Franco said this? Did he say it in English? Or write it without commas? The quote reminds me of the spurious (and even more illiterate) one by Marx circulating just after the financial crash about eight years ago.

            Franco appreciated Hitler’s help in defeating the lunatic Left in Spain but it was not clear in 1936 how Hitler would turn out. This quote is alleged to have been made in 1945 when Spain was under serious threat of Allied intervention, but they were saved by the Cold War. Franco was careful not to stick his neck out for Germany during WW2 despite Hitler’s pleas. His neutrality was a great benefit for the Allies, especially in denying Germany Gibraltar. Franco was very much a Catholic traditionalist not a fascist. Have a look at my link above to get an idea of Hitler’s beliefs.

          • Sean Coleman August 23, 2017 at 5:30 pm #

            Seawolf

            That book would be John Cornwell’s Hitler’s Pope. I read his Breaking Faith which is obsessed with the damage done to the Church by his imagined papal dictatorship. I took notes on it because I had planned it as one of the texts I would examine in a book I was thinking of writing about extraverts and political correctness. I find it very hard to imagine him setting out to exonerate the Vatican. (My link above touches on this book too.)

            And the idea that the Vatican is some shady, ‘reactionary’ (I see this quaint adjective has been given a new lease of life) organization which seeks at every turn to sabotage the progressives laughable. Nearly every Sunday the priests in my church (Franciscans) preach about the need to welcome immigrants. The bishops and the Pope are no different. So who is this ‘Vatican’? A few clerks who leak the odd bit of scandal to the press and who doubtless share the same progressive views themselves.

          • akmofo August 23, 2017 at 7:32 pm #