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This is the week-of-weeks when the official grand viziers of finance gather at Jackson Hole, Wyoming, to confab and interpret the lay of animal neck-bones and other auguries scattered in the sand, with the hope of steering the awesome powers of the universe this was or that as they affect the operations of money. The exercise is hardly different in function from the sort of rude ceremonials that took place on top of Sumerian ziggurats and Aztec temples — to reassure the masses that effective spells for favor of the Gods have been cast — except that in our civilization money is God.

Or “money,” we should say, because the old definitions don’t fit so well anymore. It used to have a straightforward relationship with the work required to produce actual things of value, but those days are gone. “Money” nowadays is a byproduct of wishful analytics and computer legerdemain seasoned with generous measures of fraud and larceny. This is a big problem when everything is measured in money and it becomes quite impossible to state with assurance what the value of money actually is. Obviously, you end up not knowing the value of anything.

That’s the perilous situation the world faces. And since the USA is the straw the stirs the world’s drink — at least for now — the utterances emanating from Jackson Hole may determine which way that situation turns. We should suppose that the officers of the Federal Reserve are upright, well-intentioned, patriotic people. No doubt they think they are. But the perilous situation is largely one of their own making, and seems to be veering out of their control, and reputations are at stake. Their task at this year’s Jackson Hole confab is to maintain the appearance of confidence in their own rituals. But with a kicker.

That kicker is named T-r-u-m-p. This modern Balaam, riding the ass of the Deep State into wickedness, must be stopped, perhaps at all costs. On his way to the oval office last fall, Trump prophesied that the stock markets represented “one big, fat, ugly bubble.” That was an offense to the grand viziers, for whom the elevated stock market valuations stood as the main testament to their power and wisdom. In fact, it was the only testament, and a rather flimsy one. More recently, though, the wicked Trump changed his tune and declared that the tower of stock market exaltation was his own doing, setting himself up for the revenge of the grand viziers.

Since nothing else has worked so far to dislodge Trump from the White House, a tumbling tower of stocks might seal his fate. The tower has to fall anyway, lest the moiling masses of flyover America think about besetting Wall Street with pitchforks and torches. A controlled demolition might be just the thing to appease these suffering holders of three part-time jobs (if they are so lucky) who have stood by in wonder and nausea while a tiny fraction of the elite gather unto themselves all the dwindling riches of the realm — at least in paper securities denominated in US dollars — while the wicked Trump will be left to the jackals of the Deep State, to be torn apart with the 25th Amenedment.

Trouble is, the “controlled” part of the demolition. Janet Yellen and the rest of the crew in their conical hats might want the markets to fall by a manageable ten or maybe even twenty percent. After all, they probably believe they can tweak them back up in another six months, like the last couple of times. But they can only pretend to calibrate that tumble, just as they pretend to regulate the employment numbers that supposedly represent the real economy of thing, activities, and people. What if the demolition gets out of hand? What if the markets sink fifty percent, seventy? What if the bond market, which is way bigger than the stock markets, catches the infection and goes kerblooey? What if congress, in its raging idiocy, shoots the credibility of the nation in the head by failing to raise the debt ceiling?

Things could get mighty complicated. The viziers know that the powers of the universe have a mysterious will of their own. Mostly, they have a will to re-balance the things of this world that have strayed from the accounting sheets of reality, namely the true prices of everything. And from that point the value of things may become visible again. Won’t that be a mighty moment?

So mind what these characters say in the hours ahead at Jackson Hole, and mind what they set into motion as they do.


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  1. Graycenphil August 25, 2017 at 9:38 am #

    I have no doubt the market will, at some point, drop 10 or 20%. And it will recover, as it always has, not just the last few times. It may even drop 50%, as it has once or twice, but it will also recover from that. We’ll be okay.

    • Ron Anselmo August 25, 2017 at 9:42 am #

      If you think so.

      • FallenHero August 25, 2017 at 11:33 am #

        What do you guys think of crypto currency? (Bitcoin etc) I know they represent ‘techno’ success, but they also represent a flight from fiat.

        • Elrond Hubbard August 25, 2017 at 12:02 pm #

          Money represents the virtualization of value. Therefore all money is fiat money, including gold. Period. Gold is a token that represents a consensus measure of actual value, where value is something that satisfies a human need or desire. There’s nothing magical about gold that lends it “money-ness” other than convention. What makes gold useful as a conventional token of value is that it has specific physical properties that can’t be faked, i.e. density, mass, doesn’t tarnish, etc. It’s always possible to verify that a quantity of gold actually is gold through and through and not alloyed with something else, and therefore represents the consensus value that it’s purported to represent.

          Bitcoin and other virtual currencies attempt to provide similar guarantees by mathematical means instead of physical properties. They use what’s called a blockchain, which has to be constantly calculated and re-calculated using what’s called a proof-of-work algorithm. The algorithm is supposed to provide a mathematically strong guarantee of validity without requiring a central authority to mint the coins. Instead, bitcoin is ‘mined’ by computers that run billions of hashes per second and, if they get lucky, produce tokens that will be recognized by the wider Bitcoin network as representing a proven amount of work done. This is the mathematical equivalent of a given amount of gold, which may represent greater or lesser value depending on the market in Bitcoins that day.

          Here’s the catch: computers use energy. Computers that mine Bitcoins use LOTS of energy. And the blockchain algorithm, by design, requires mounting quantities of computations to be performed for every new Bitcoin it emits. Check out this website:

          digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption

          The site estimates that every Bitcoin transaction that takes place currently represents 166 kWh of electricity, which is enough to run 5.62 U.S. households for one day. That’s only going to increase, because the algorithm works that way. A month ago, on July 26, Bitcoin miners expended about 14.63 terawatt-hours of energy. Yesterday they expended 16.15 TWh. That’s a 10% increase in one month and an amount equal to the total energy expenditure in the country of Tunisia.

          Leaving aside the fact that governments are unlikely to accept a challenge to their monetary sovereignty, anyone visiting JHK’s website is likely familiar with the unsustainability of exponential growth in a finite environment. The growth rate of Bitcoin’s energy expenditure gives new meaning to ‘unsustainable’.

          • Graycenphil August 25, 2017 at 2:03 pm #

            Now that is something interesting. Not necessarily good, but interesting. Thanks for posting Elrond.

            When I first read it, I found it hard to believe. But it appears to be basically true. The actual amounts of electricity are very rough estimates, and most of the energy goes into mining (if you buy a Bitcoin it doesn’t take another 165 kwh), but it is essentially accurate that the whole Bitcoin scheme uses a phenomenal amount of energy.

            Maybe JHK is right after all – we are going down.

          • JimInFlorida August 25, 2017 at 3:30 pm #

            What I want to know is…., what is actually being ACCOMPLISHED in all that bitcoin mining?
            Those billions of calculations a second, what is being calculated and who is using the end product?
            All of those hashes…. what are hashes and do they actually enable the functioning of the internet in some form or fashion?

            Gold, silver, and related precious metals DO contain intrinsic value BECAUSE of the *LABOR* it takes to excavate, separate, refine, and convert into useful products. Included in that labor is the time-wage input to make the machines that mine the gold, separate the ores, refine the gold, and machine / stamp it into something of value. The LABOR baked into every gold item is indelible and gives it debt-free value. Thus, the TRUE PRICE of gold, silver, and copper coinage is based on what it takes to SUSTAIN the labor of free men involved in all steps. From that, a firm price can be calculated. When that calculation is achieved, then everything else can be measured in comparison and then true price discovery can be achieved.

            None of that is possible in our current debt-usury fiat money system. It is the epitome of false weights and measures. Which means nothing can be priced correctly and the relative price of everything is in constant flux.

            Professional rentiers COUNT on the chaos because they have developed algorithms to skim profits from arbitrage. Regardless of whether they’re long or short. They don’t want stable prices or honest valuation.

          • aibohphobia August 25, 2017 at 4:23 pm #

            @Elrond,
            Yes, even gold is getting more ‘virtual’ and less ‘virtuous’ all the time. It is apparently now possible to buy gold-plated Tungsten bars from friendly manufacturers in China–

            businessinsider.com/china-tungsten-gold-2012-9

            Tungsten’s density and specific gravity are just a hair different from those of gold, which makes this a convincing fake gold bar.

            Makes ya wonder what would happen if you broke some of the gold bars in half that (theoretically) fill Ft Knox….

          • Bruce E August 25, 2017 at 4:31 pm #

            “Every Bitcoin transaction that takes place currently represents 166 kWh of electricity, which is enough to run 5.62 U.S. households for one day.”

            That’s an interesting quantification. How much energy does it cost to mine, refine, and melt gold into a single 1 Troy ounce (31 grams) coin? I see today a Troy ounce of gold is worth $1,285, and a kWh of electricity is worth about $0.12 today, so that comes to 10.7MWh or about 65 Bitcoins. I see a Bitcoin is worth $4,345 today (is that real? holy crap!).

            The value of each divided by the amount of energy used to produce them would be an interesting comparison.

          • Elrond Hubbard August 25, 2017 at 6:19 pm #

            JiF: “All of those hashes…. what are hashes and do they actually enable the functioning of the internet in some form or fashion?”

            Here’s the skinny if you really, really want it (but it’s probably not worth it):

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function

            You can think of a hash function as a kind of digest, that maps an arbitrarily large amount of information into a fixed-size “fingerprint” that identifies it more or less uniquely. They’re called one-way functions because it’s possible to calculate the result, but just about impossible to start with the result (the hash “fingerprint”) and work backwards to get the original. This makes hashes useful in cryptography, online security etc. because they’re allegedly impossible to forge. They’re used in cases where you want to demonstrate that you have certain information, without actually disclosing that information. If you produce the right hash, it’s extremely unlikely that you could have faked it. Hash functions are widely used on the Internet — Bitcoin is just one of many things that use them.

            That said, JiF, I don’t know that I agree with your theory that the value of gold comes from the labour of extracting it. First, the value of specie cannot be intrinsic in the substance itself. If it were, then it would be possible to realize the value from it directly (i.e. you could eat the gold, or burn it to heat your home, or whatever — realize its value in an immediate sense). The fact that the gold has to be given up in exchange for the actual good or service that satisfies the human need or desire demonstrates that the gold is a representation of value; it is not value itself.

            On the other hand, what makes money valuable is the fact that not anyone can simply declare they have money and then spend it. Only certain privileged actors can do that — either government or, modern monetary theory tells us, commercial banks which loan it into existence by crediting it on their computers. Gold is similar in that sense, because you have to go and get it — mine it, extract it, coin it, etc. So you can identify the money-ness of gold with the labour value of extracting it if you want, but I don’t think that’s essential. What is essential is the barrier to entry: gold is unfakeable.

            Money is an inherently intersubjective phenomenon, in my view. Meaning that it’s no more or less than a matter of what people agree to among themselves. Trying to identify the phantom that is money with any physical thing or substance is an attempt to give solidity to pure wind. It’s like Varys told Tyrion: Money, like power, is a magic trick, a shadow on the wall. It has never been more than that and never will be.

          • islander800 August 25, 2017 at 8:32 pm #

            That’s very “illuminating” (preferably with LEDs).

            And I was going to simply post that Bitcoin is just “vaporware” to fiat currency…

            Some energy-hogging vaporware!

          • FallenHero August 25, 2017 at 8:33 pm #

            Hey nice response. AT first blush cryptos seemed immensly stupid. I read more about them and was interested, and actually ‘invested’ and made some good money. But the more I read the more it blew my mind that we are literally running computers/burning energy on massive scales not doing anything productive.

            It’s a bubble for sure. The people in it are fanatical.

          • Graycenphil August 25, 2017 at 10:33 pm #

            Aibohphobia – that is a funny story. I remember reading a few years back about rumors of tungsten filled gold bars. If I recall correctly, Ron Paul even wanted to do an audit of. Ft. Knox to make sure the gold that is there is all legit.

          • michael August 26, 2017 at 6:50 pm #

            We have a problem with abstraction.
            Abstraction is good if it serves to single out the essential thus leading to simplification.

            This does not mean that ideas have more power than physical reality. This idea itself (“mind over matter”) seems to be uncritically accepted by the advertising and public relations industry, where it is taken to bizzarre extremes.

            But it already fails in much more sober contexts (e.g science).
            For example the uncritical belief in mathematics (especially in finance and economics).

            Ideas can be manipulated at the speed of thought. And
            they can be manipulated easily without effort (if you are not really sincere which is the case for most).
            This is the great attraction of ideas over the physical world where hard labor is required to extract or effect anything.

            The world of ideas is also a welcoming place for megalomaniacs, which, in physical reality, would soon come up against the laws of nature and their own limitations.

            Paper money and crypto-currencies are an outgrowth of
            this preference of ideas over realities.

            However we do live in a physical universe. God wills it so. It has existed for 15 billion years and will continue to exist for untold billions of years more and the same is true for the gold which is produced in stellar explosions.

            The idea of paper money has existed for about 1500 years
            and concrete manifestations last for much less time than that.
            Crypto-currencies have existed for less than 20 years.

            Gold on the other hand has an undeniable concreteness and physicality to it. When the edifice of thought which we have constructed runs into serious trouble it is likely that the idea of the supremacy of ideas itself will be rejected.
            Gold will then return with force.

          • Majella August 27, 2017 at 6:43 pm #

            As I understand it, Bitcoin is to be limited to 21 million pieces.

        • Calico August 25, 2017 at 1:44 pm #

          One bitcoin has risen from $2000 to $4000 inside of a month. To an extent, there was some pent up demand due to uncertainties around forking bitcoin to produce bitcash. But once that went well, it was propelled to new heights as the Japanese suddenly made it legal tender, and stores across Japan, suddenly began to allow bitcoin payments for goods and services. 40% of all traffic has been Japanese. I expect it to continue up. The Russians have recently backed off a hard stand again bitcoin, and there is a chance that they will adopt it as well, and their interest is mainly to fight forgeries. I think bitcoin is likely to continue up for a long while.

          • malthuss August 25, 2017 at 5:36 pm #

            What about various countries that will mint their own CCs? Competition to BC.

          • toktomi August 25, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

            ” I think bitcoin is likely to continue up for a long while.”

            Ya, that’s what was said about Tulips, Emus, llamas, beanie babies, and probably even pet rocks. And they did, for awhile.

            Looks like I missed another boat. Oh, dang.

            ~toktomi~

        • malthuss August 25, 2017 at 5:34 pm #

          i AM UNSURE.
          Do CC have a future? There are 1000 different ones, with more every day.
          A few lines of code and a white paper.

          • elysianfield August 26, 2017 at 11:25 am #

            Wrenching,
            As I understand fiat currency, it is defined by its lack of backing by other than faith and credit.

            The US dollar will, indeed, lose it’s reserve status, but Bitcoin will self-destruct before that event. Bitcoin’s successes initially involved black-market purchases on Silk Road, in the Billions of dollars, it is the obvious choice of criminals and other dark enterprises. Do not be offended, as others also dabble.

            I own no Gold
            I own no Bitcoin

            I am, however, relatively prepared for whatever dystopian future you might divine.

        • elysianfield August 25, 2017 at 11:38 pm #

          “What do you guys think of crypto currency? (Bitcoin etc) I know they represent ‘techno’ success, but they also represent a flight from fiat.”

          Crypto currencies are the gold standard of fiat currency…the concept taken to the extreme…only without the safety, common sense and peace of mind that analog currencies provide.

          That Bitcoin is seen to have value, other than a transient one, is but an arbiter of the fear and loathing in these troubled times….

          • Wrenching Away August 26, 2017 at 11:09 am #

            Does the term fiat money not imply that there is an endless supply? Governments can print their paper money to infinity and make it worthless. Bitcoin is mathematically limited to 21 million coins ever, many of which are assumed to have been already lost. So no, it is not like fiat currency at all. And if the US dollar loses its reserve currency status in the world, you’ll probably wish you had bought at least a couple of them.

        • bailey alexander August 28, 2017 at 8:39 am #

          Bitcoin’s great but complicated, takes effort to understand if you’re not technical, and I’m not. But asked engineers early on because, well, I thought it was interesting.

          Charlie Shrem suggests it’s the greatest socio-economic experiment of all time. But it does require faith…: )

          And you have to ride that rollercoaster…

    • DA August 25, 2017 at 10:13 am #

      The power of positive thinking, sometimes referred to by its other name as denial! Who knows? Maybe they can pull it off one more time, but after 2008, it’s hard to imagine how. Magical thinking only works for so long.

      • DA August 25, 2017 at 10:36 am #

        And by the way, every time we play this collapse/re-inflate the bubble game power gets more concentrated in the hands of those at the top and more purchasing power gets stolen from and hard assets foreclosed upon for everyone else (the super rich don’t care about purchasing power, they have debt free hard assets already in hand); so the whole cycle is damaging in and of itself, regardless of whether or not we ever partially “recover.” Absent erasing or significantly writing down private debts each time (which will never happen), the noose only grows tighter on debtors with every cycle. And without people willing and able to take on more private debt to fuel growth, the capitalist growth economy can only implode in its tracks.

        • Graycenphil August 25, 2017 at 11:11 am #

          I do think so. Of course, none of us knows for sure and that includes me. But my whole life there has always been some reason why the economy, the nation, the environment is about to collapse. It never happens, things keep getting better, and some new threat looms.

          I do think there’s some merit to DA’s statemnet about the concentration of assets. If you sell your stocks every time the market drops, you are losing ground rapidly. Similarly, if you lose a house to foreclosure in a housing crash or buy gold at it’s peak, you’re in trouble. I suppose there are some lessons in that.

          • DA August 25, 2017 at 4:42 pm #

            Jim’s excellent podcast addresses all this here:

            kunstler.com/podcast/kunstlercast-289-david-collum-fun-financial-markets/

            The timing of downturns/collapses remain uncertain, but the underlying reality is changeless and inescapable. To deny it is to contend that money is purely whimsical, when in fact, only foolish men’s notions of it are.

          • ozone August 25, 2017 at 5:23 pm #

            Graycenphil,
            I suppose that is why one should possibly consider physical silver, as it’s staggeringly underpriced compared to the cost of the activity to bring it to us in bullion form. (Of course there are the other mineral ores that are found *with* it to consider into the price.)

            Interesting concepts on the “Bitcoin costs” front!

          • Graycenphil August 25, 2017 at 10:21 pm #

            I actually have a huge stash of silver (well, 50 pounds anyway). Long story how it came to be.

            Some of my deep state /teotwawki/gold bug friends say the same thing – it’s way undervalued, and is a better buy than gold.

            But I’ve been hearing that for a long time. And it’s always about to explode. I remain unconvinced, but I’ll hold onto my silver. Just in case JHK turns out to be right this time.

          • elysianfield August 25, 2017 at 11:43 pm #

            Graycenphil,
            Your silver will have no more purchasing power in a raging inflation than it does today…maybe less.

            You do understand this…yes? It may have a bit more liquidity than the analog currency, but no fat asses of hogs will be cut.

          • Graycenphil August 26, 2017 at 7:50 am #

            I anticipate no raging inflation or long emergency. I expect my daughter to some day, hopefully long from now, inherit the silver along wioth the rest of my “stuff”. She can do with it all as she pleases.

            But in the extremely unlikely event of some major turmoil (the Long Emergency), where most currencies are worthless, I suspect gold and silver will be the best of them. In the event of raging inflation, I would expect silver and gold, like other commodoties, to hold it’s value, unlike conventional currencies.

            If silver goes back up to $40 or $50 an ounce, or up to $100 an ounce, absent a “raging inflation”, I would probably sell it just because.

      • elysianfield August 26, 2017 at 11:26 am #

        DA,
        As others are wont to say…”Denial is not just a river in Egypt…”.

    • K-Dog August 25, 2017 at 4:44 pm #

      Ten or 15 percent would be in the range of normal market fluxuation. A drop of fifty percent in the future is a more reasonable statement. The market will then recover leaving many casualties behind. Those who make it through the crunch will say life is good and collapse is just an unfounded fear. Those who don’t make it will be forgotten just as you forget about the casualties from the last market crash in 2008 Graycenphil.

      I am not posting much this week. I am back in Seattle from my trip to Idaho and I have personal buisiness to take care of. I will miss your bullshit retort. I enjoyed the unusually low gas prices on my trip which are now on the way up again. I paid $3.49 yesterday. A bit more for me as German cars require 92 octane. Close that regular vs premium price gap and prices will not be far from slowing the economy down again. Of course you will pick and choose you graph of authority and claim we are all paying $2.50 a gallon ignoring my reality and the reality of everyone else who has to pay more.

      In slow collapse, economic misery is not felt by all. Those who feel it up closed we and personal are forgotten. The illusion of prosperity is chosen by the affluent because that is what they prefer to do.

      We are in a long slow emergency which for a while can be ignored by those who wish to ignore it. Like an eclipse which has not quite reached totality life seems bright if that is what you want to see. But like totality which is a sudden dramatic change, the long emergency will be hard to ignore as collapse accelerates.

      • DA August 25, 2017 at 5:11 pm #

        Nice eclipse analogy. It’s JUST like that! Not much at all, then all at once.

      • ozone August 25, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

        “In slow collapse, economic misery is not felt by all. Those who feel it up close and personal are forgotten. The illusion of prosperity is chosen by the affluent because that is what they prefer to do.”

        K-dog,
        That is a very important thing to remember by anyone who reads or listens to the current happy-talk from the established (that is: “bought”) happy-talking propaganda organs. I do wish more people would stop and look around instead of this “believing”, but that does require a bit of thought… and we can’t have that, now can we?

        • DA August 25, 2017 at 6:56 pm #

          Dmitry Orlov comments on that subject extensively in his books from the POV of post cold-war Russia. They lost a whole generation of mostly working class and aging men to alcoholism and suicide in the 1990’s. Traditional cultural myths about the man’s place as primary breadwinner die hard, and its adherents die even harder. Coming to a first world “democracy” near you soon!

      • Graycenphil August 25, 2017 at 10:10 pm #

        K- Dog, again with the gas prices? Of course some pay more for gas, and some pay less. That’s why we use an average. (Duh.) In the last week, the average was up $.008. The fact that you drove somewhere cheaper than where you live in no way affects the national average. Your make of car also does not affect average gas prices. (If it makes you feel better, your car doesn’t really require 92 octane. You’ll get a bit less mileage from regular, but your car will run fine.)

        There is a big hurricane in the Gulf. Gas prices will probably go up a bit more this week. Don’t get all upset or excited; they will come back down again a week or two later.

        The market will indeed drop 50% sometime in the future. It’s done it a few times before, and it will do it again. Just like fluctuating gas prices, that doesn’t mean the end of the world as we know it. Not only did I not forget about the casualties of the last big drop, I commented on them. I’m sorry you didn’t understand the part about valuable investing lessons.

  2. robert magill August 25, 2017 at 9:43 am #

    Where in the current People’s Five Year Plan are the instructions to issue gold-backed RMB when the US bond market dips X percent? It’s in there. Why, oh why, can’t we find it and what can that X point be? Somebody ask Janet, please.

  3. Walter B August 25, 2017 at 9:46 am #

    The only thing that is controlled in this failure of a society is the masses and they are being controlled, squeezed ever harder and tighter with the advent of each and every techno-bauble that is heaped upon them to this end. The game now is to set the herd into actions that are intended to distract them from their own plight and turn them on one another so that they do not realize how completely and badly they are being played. The question remains to be answered as to when that panicking shot is discharged and the stampede is initiated, though it would appear that there will be many shots, many venues and many panics that will soon be upon us. The objective is to confuse the herd so that it tramples itself and not those who are controlling them. Of course, there remains a possibility that the herd members will simply collapse into shivering heaps in the dirt and whimper and cry themselves into non-existence. This might actually be the best way for it to all play out, but in any case the pace is certainly quickening.

    • DA August 25, 2017 at 10:08 am #

      The stampede will be herded by the magic drones overhead. We’ll never even know what hit us. Hey, what’s the world’s “most powerful” military good for if it can’t be used on its own citizens?

      • Wrenching Away August 25, 2017 at 10:26 am #

        Looks like I better get back to the trap range then and get practiced up. Although, Amazon has probably already figured out how to make them 12 gauge proof.

        • DA August 25, 2017 at 10:37 am #

          Not sure about the altitude those things fly at. A little after my time.

        • Beryl of Oyl August 25, 2017 at 10:48 am #

          Speaking of Amazon, I saw another commercial for them worked into the evening news.
          They are careful to cover them as if they are a fourth branch of government, and of utmost importance to America.

      • Walter B August 25, 2017 at 11:52 am #

        Indeed it shall and all of those armchair drone pilots (they actually wear flight suits and wings) will get plenty of opportunities to put all of their video game experience to use as they scour the countryside for targets like the parents that abandoned them to day care, before care, after care, Summer care and nanny tutelage. Ah sweet revenge and a great opportunity to move out of the basement.

    • Ron Anselmo August 25, 2017 at 10:57 am #

      Cape Buffalo not only fend off predators, they take the fight to them. Your point is well taken though, the crux is identifying the real predators.

    • S M Tenneshaw August 25, 2017 at 10:50 pm #

      Say. how ’bout that McGregor/Mayweather bout?

  4. Elrond Hubbard August 25, 2017 at 10:00 am #

    A propos:

    Trump Struck By Beautiful Vision Of What America Could Be While Looking Out Over Seething, Screaming Arizona Crowd

    theonion.com/article/trump-struck-beautiful-vision-what-america-could-b-56734

    “PHOENIX—Visibly moved by the outpouring of rancor before of him, President Trump was reportedly struck by the beautiful vision of what America could be while looking out over a seething, screaming Arizona rally on Tuesday.

    “‘As I gaze upon the snarls on your red faces today, I’m filled with hope at what astonishing hostility the America of tomorrow can achieve,’ said the president, swelling with optimism at the inspiring scene of thousands of Americans gathering to act on their basest instincts. ‘I’m simply overcome by the bitterness and resentment filling this convention center. Just imagine if everyone in the nation—every single man and every single woman—could let their anger and intolerance consume them the way it has the good people in this room. What a wonderful country this would be.’

    “Trump went on to say that while progress would not always be easy, the uncontainable rage of crowds like this one made him feel like America was well on its way.”

  5. 100th Avatar August 25, 2017 at 10:02 am #

    F*****g scatalogical retard. You can’t write. Not a bit.

    • DA August 25, 2017 at 10:04 am #

      Looks like enmity still rules the day on these boards. //Sigh…//

      • 100th Avatar August 25, 2017 at 10:08 am #

        Seawolf is an imbecile… his comments are always crude and repetitive. Worst part, he fancies himself as a good writer, Dunning-Kruger style.

        • seawolf77 August 25, 2017 at 10:14 am #

          I had to look that one up. At least your insults have some substance. You should stick to that. Your writing… yawn.

        • DA August 25, 2017 at 10:18 am #

          I’ll grant you he’s a bit repetitive, as we all are probably at times. I certainly go in for crude humor at times myself, so I can’t fault that. Can’t speak to his imbecility.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 25, 2017 at 10:52 am #

            I admit to being repetitive. In fully discussing ongoing events, it is difficult not to be, especially when you are talking with people you haven’t had a discussion with before.

            It’s not that hard to skip over the comments you personally don’t feel are going to add anything.

          • 100th Avatar August 25, 2017 at 11:26 am #

            Alas, his comment and most of thread removed. Mercifully.

  6. DA August 25, 2017 at 10:02 am #

    Nice imagery! Funnier still, his shit might actually be worth as much as the US dollar before long.

  7. AKlein August 25, 2017 at 10:12 am #

    Once again JHK drones on about the economy and that ever-problematic topic – the monetary system. JHK opines that now the way money is being handled makes that value of it meaningless. Old news. Didn’t Oscar Wilde already address the disconnect between price and value? JHK should really direct his concern toward all those old Confederate statues. Small potatoes? Or an example of a Red Guard right here in the US of A. The national political and cultural landscape is shockingly similar to Weimar Germany. Cultural filth abounds, illogic reigns supreme, multiple agents provocateur on the streets, gross economic disparity and dysfunction. OK, let’s see where this takes us…

    • DA August 25, 2017 at 10:23 am #

      Great link on NakCap yesterday addressing the whole Civil War era statues “issue” (from WaPo no less!):

      “Many of the South’s Silent Sentinels turn out to be identical to the statues of Union soldiers that decorate hundreds of public spaces across the North. Identical, but for one detail: On the soldier’s belt buckle, the “U.S.” is replaced by a “C.S.” for “Confederate States.”

      It turns out that a campaign in the late 19th century to memorialize the Civil War by erecting monuments was not only an attempt to honor Southern soldiers or white supremacy. It was also a remarkably successful bit of marketing sleight of hand in which New England monument companies sold the same statues to towns and citizens groups on both sides of the Civil War divide.”

      washingtonpost.com/politics/why-those-confederate-soldier-statues-look-a-lot-like-their-union-counte…

      Now that thar’s funny, I DON’T CARE WHO YOU ARE!!!

      • seawolf77 August 25, 2017 at 10:27 am #

        Now that’s what I call re-purposing.

        • DA August 25, 2017 at 10:39 am #

          Like all war profiteers, they made money going and coming. It’s quite a racket. Probably the last viable industry we have remaining these days.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 25, 2017 at 11:01 am #

        We have a statue in New York’s Stockade neighborhood, which many thought was unique, and as it turns out, other communities had “Indian Chief Number 53” from the same catalog.
        Now that I think about it, I’d better get over there and see what I can do about destroying the thing.

        • seawolf77 August 25, 2017 at 11:08 am #

          We should take them down and sell them to a Banana Republic. Robert E. Lee could be Pancho Villa and live again! Simon Bolivar could ride again! Anastasio “Tachito” Somoza could finally emerge from his father’s shadow.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 25, 2017 at 11:15 am #

            Peru already has one.

  8. RobH August 25, 2017 at 10:21 am #

    Trump eclipsed Obama?

    edition.cnn.com/2017/08/24/politics/trump-eclipse-meme-obama/index.html

    Does Trump mean that his lump of dead rock temporarily came between mother earth and her star? Blocking the light and leaving everyone in the dark. Temporarily. Well, a small group of everyone at least, in one particular narrow band of the country. Everyone else had business as usual – Obamacare and the rest

    It is true that Trump dared to look at the star without his safety specs
    Give him his due for that

  9. seawolf77 August 25, 2017 at 10:23 am #

    A tumbling stock market has never brought down a president. The train wreck we are headed for will be marked by a continuous decline in Trump’s abilities and performance, which on its face is truly astounding given his performance to date. An epiphany moment, like Livvy Soprano running someone over or starting a house fire, is the end game. And that’s if Mueller doesn’t get him first. Nothing in the Steele Dossier has been disproved. They handed over 40,000 documents. There was 10 hours of testimony. I said it months ago he’s gone by Christmas. Bannon said September is crucial in whether he will save his presidency.

    • Beryl of Oyl August 25, 2017 at 11:11 am #

      Anyone can write up a “dossier” to order, which will be impossible to disprove.
      The MSM is largely over that farce; their new tack is “look at the difference between Trump’s scripted speeches and his rallies”. Because if he seems different reading someone else’s words from a teleprompter, that “proves” mental instability, or something.
      “The Russians” are over. It did not work. We are back to “Trump is mentally ill”.
      I saw the exact story, not covering the content of his Afghanistan speech, but discussing the way he delivered it, in comparison to his latest rally, on two news programs. One was on PBS.
      What are the odds, the reporters for each station decided, independently, to abandon the topic of the Afghanistan speech, you know, what we used to call “reporting”, and instead do opinion pieces on his style?
      Almost as if they were getting the order from somewhere on high.

      • seawolf77 August 25, 2017 at 11:32 am #

        I beg to differ Russia is not over. When you have this many coincidences, this many meetings, this many emails, this many licensing deals and condo purchases by shell corporations, this many there’s there, it doesn’t end well. Look at Bill Clinton. You would have thought they’d be embarrassed to bring a blowjob to an impeachment, but they didn’t bat an eye. Remember how all these start? Remember Watergate? Iran-Contra? You thought nobody could be that stupid.

        • islander800 August 25, 2017 at 8:46 pm #

          The “Russia” thing, by latest reports of testimony and progress in the investigation, is about to crucify him, at long last.

          No politically-biased witch hunt required. Just his own actions to convict him for treason for colluding with the Russians at the expense of America. Personally, I vote for the Rosenberg option as punishment. Read the sentencing judge’s statements when he imposed his sentence on them at the conclusion of their trail.

          • DA August 26, 2017 at 5:53 pm #

            Nothing more than a modern “Ides of March” tale retold. I wonder, will they conspire to make the dates align as well to further heighten the springtime post-NFL, pre-MLB drama? TV rights sold off discretely beforehand as well.

  10. Beryl of Oyl August 25, 2017 at 10:40 am #

    My favorite part of the post today is the second paragraph. The part about money and how it used to have a straightforward relationship to
    work and production of things of value.
    I’ve been noticing for some time now, the more money separated from work, the more contempt being expressed in the media/government for the more obvious icons of that concept of production; also the more doubling and tripling down on the mythology that President Trump’s supporters are a bunch of white guys who didn’t have the sense to see that their industry was going the way of the horse and buggy, and who also don’t have what it takes, brain-wise, to go get one of those STEM degrees.
    You look at a map of the states that went for Trump, and that’s how we elect our presidents, state by state, and it becomes clear that the ‘Coastal Elites” have the media, but they do not have the influence they thought they had, and that they think they deserve.
    It’s the Uniparty versus America.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 25, 2017 at 4:33 pm #

      Yet you still hate Middle America and believe in the Doctrine that they are “racist”. Yet I would bet you couldn’t give a cogent explanation of it, much less prove it.

  11. sprawlcapital August 25, 2017 at 10:41 am #

    Speaking of not knowing the true value of anything, the powers that be in Iowa think that data centers have greater value than does Iowa farm land, the richest to be found anywhere.

    Headline on page one of this morning’s Des Moines Register: Apple Data Center Puts Iowa on World Stage (I paraphrase slightly). This is a quote from Iowa’s governor referring to a “server farm” announced yesterday to be built on 2000 acres of farm land on the west edge of the Des Moines suburb, Waukee. Two thousand acres is over 3 square miles.

    Trouble is, Iowa took a major place on the world stage in 1846, the year of statehood. At that time there was prairie and savanna covering maybe six feet of black topsoil, a resource of almost unimaginable richness. Now a portion of that soil has been eroded away, but what remains is the envy of the world.

    The other problem is the idiotic inferiority complex that Iowa has, leading its power brokers to proudly crow about things like a mega-corporation destroying our land. Iowa is a farm state, and farming has long been a low-status occupation, not nearly as admirable in the eyes of the ignorant as, say, computer programming.

    But he group-thinking masses celebrate the destruction of our land; going along with their group-thinking “leaders”.

    From Des Moines, Iowa, the Sprawl Capital of the World.

    • AKlein August 25, 2017 at 11:06 am #

      In regard to the implicit message in your post, here’s a sobering thought; robots don’t need to eat. They certainly don’t eat the output from rich farmland.

    • Beryl of Oyl August 25, 2017 at 11:25 am #

      I know those chip fab plants they love to crow about have a shelf life. I wonder if that’s true of server farms?
      You should see what the chip factory in Malta, New York has done to the area. It isn’t exactly on farmland, although Malta has farms. It was built in the middle of a forest, nowhere near where anyone actually lives.
      You get suburban sprawl, urban traffic problems, and abandoned farms, all in one place.
      Plus, the taxpayers paid for it.

      • sprawlcapital August 25, 2017 at 12:33 pm #

        Beryl,

        The tech companies like to brag about being green because Iowa has so much wind energy to power their servers. Yet they are destroying our land without a second thought.

        AK,

        That’s fascinating about robots. If we are all replaced by robots, who needs farmland?

    • DA August 25, 2017 at 6:48 pm #

      I grew up in Iowa (Council Bluffs), so your post certainly rings true. Wonderful, if not terribly exciting, little state, but it’s definitely got east coast big city liberal envy. Council Bluffs’ main stock in trade now is legalized riverboat gambling, dog track racing, and of course the now ubiquitous FIRE sector extortion rackets. Big Ag owns most of what’s left of the countryside now, but they can bring illegals in to do all that automation can’t for far cheaper, so what’s left? Urban “development” and shitty service sector jobs for the young folks, welfare or starve for the working class rest. It’s a shame, but it’s all been headed in that direction since even before I graduated HS 40 years ago. Toffler’s “knowledge work” my ass! Just theft, plain and simple.

  12. Bro Jobe August 25, 2017 at 10:50 am #

    ‘ “Money” nowadays is a byproduct of wishful analytics and computer legerdemain seasoned with generous measures of fraud and larceny. ‘

    Try–just try–explaining that cogent idea to a professional economist.

    You may as well say “I am from Planet Mars.”

    Yet JHK’s idea is at the heart of our modern dilemma. And it may well lead to our undoing. Trump, for all his stupidity and boorishness, has little to do with it except that sort of “money” made him wealthy.

    On paper. And soon the house of paper, his and ours, will burn down.

    • Beryl of Oyl August 25, 2017 at 11:29 am #

      He does have some (literally) concrete things to show for his money. He did get richer due to the finance bubble, or whatever it’s called, though.

    • Walter B August 25, 2017 at 2:13 pm #

      Money today is simply printed out pieces of paper (yes I understand about the digital thing and the adding of zeros to spreadsheets) and if the theory that has been practiced for the last ten years is really all that valid, there should be absolutely no reason why the Fed cannot simply print out enough mass quantity to allow us to buy everything that exists in the World. Once we own it all we can keep all the good stuff for us, can the rest, let the rest of the World die off and then it would all be ours.

      If this is something that cannot be done for whatever the reason, why then we are in a world of shit aren’t we? Sooner or later the USD will simply HAVE TO assume it’s true value of ZERO. Am I missing something?

      • elysianfield August 25, 2017 at 11:58 pm #

        Walter,
        No, you are missing nothing…except the World’s current acceptance of the dollar, and the future’s uncertain but probable loss of confidence. Your suggestion that the Fed could buy the World’s goods would succeed if it could be accomplished in a very short period…72 hours, say…over a long weekend.

  13. capt spaulding August 25, 2017 at 11:07 am #

    It seems as though ever since most of our industry moved overseas, financial institutions have had to make their money in different ways. Previously, manufacturers used to borrow to increase manufacturing capacity, pursue new lines of products, etc. Industry itself drove the economy. With none of that kind of borrowing taking place, companies like Goldman Sachs and others had to begin churning the money pot in other ways, to make a buck. Along came things like derivatives, and other financial moves which were not based in reality. It seemed to me to be speculating on speculation. I don’t claim to know that much about the ins and outs of finances, but I’d like to hear other people’s opinions on the subject.

    • messianicdruid August 25, 2017 at 2:57 pm #

      “It seemed to me to be speculating on speculation.”

      You are far more perceptive than most. Our goal should change from “making money” [ strange concept when you think about it ] to making something useful.

      • cbeard August 25, 2017 at 7:18 pm #

        “Speculating on speculation”, monetized debt. Selling debts as an investment. The colleges and institutions teaching new economists and CPA’S aren’t doing us any favors.

    • martydav August 25, 2017 at 4:24 pm #

      Matt Taibbi’s Griftopia: A Story of Bankers, Politicians, and the Most Audacious Power Grab in American History (2010, updated/expanded 2011) is an essential account. Painstaking exposition re: Goldman Sachs, Greenspan, federal law precluding federal oversight of medical insurance industry, etc. Reader airbags (aviational and automotive!) highly recommended.

  14. AKlein August 25, 2017 at 11:25 am #

    It’s really very simple. The US is an empire, just like Rome was. Empires extract real value from their provinces. Back home in the center of the empire, nothing of real value is created, but somehow the spoils of war (i.e. the resources extracted from the provinces) must be distributed. Initially, this distribution mechanism is relatively equitable, but over time the crafty ones figure how to get a greater and greater part of the pie (i.e. the spoils.) All this “financial” legerdemain is just a mechanism to distribute unearned resources to the beneficiaries of the empire. Of course, eventually this scheme falls apart. Everybody in the provinces wants to be part of the empire to get some “spoil” too. This causes the crafty ones to grab an even bigger share of the pie. Finally, even people who want to be producers of real value are forced into playing the legerdemain just to survive. Ultimately the whole shebang collapses. That’s what happened to Rome. That’s what will happen to the American Empire, or whatever you want to call it.

    • seawolf77 August 25, 2017 at 11:38 am #

      The US is the last of the empires that stretch back to Babylon, all built on military industrial complexes, all with one purpose: Rape and pillage and plunder. Iraq and Afghanistan are only the latest in a long line of colonial conquests that date back to the turn of the 19th century and Teddy and Woody whose express purpose is the theft of natural resources and a reduction in indigent population.

    • AKlein August 25, 2017 at 11:45 am #

      It just occurred to me that eventually empires are forced into using Bernie Madoff’s techniques for managing suckers’ expectations – until the scheme collapses, of course. Madoff gave his investors tremendous “returns” on their investments when, in reality, he was simply “feeding” them back their own capital. Very Hannibal Lecter-like. So the empire steals real resources from as many as it can (some are clever and avoid this confiscation) and then “feeds” it back to them as putatively unearned “benefits”.

  15. volodya August 25, 2017 at 11:55 am #

    It’s in vogue nowadays to question Trump’s sanity, that is, to question the sanity of one that questions the sanity of present day commercial and international arrangements and military affairs.

    Jimmy Clapper, for instance, questions Trump’s mental state and finds it scary and disturbing. Ron Reagan – Ron and Nancy’s offspring – did the same. So did Senator Bobby Corker and CNN anchor Don Lemon. As JHK says, this is the 25th amendment gambit in motion.

    But I think it’s time to question the sanity of the questioners. The questioners hold fast to perceptions that, to simple mule-skinners and observers from outside the fold, look to be highly questionable, in fact they look out-and-out delusional.

    The problem is this: the questioners shower in the morning, they wear suits, they get regular hair cuts, they live in nice houses with neatly trimmed lawns. They hold diplomas from highly expensive schools, they make a lot of money. The questioners of Trump’s sanity are fully paid up members of a highly exclusive social club. They get others to do their bidding and these other willingly do it. To outward appearances they are mentally sound. But they are not. They are as nuts as can be. All of them share the same general disorders in thought. They are crazy people masquerading. They live in a crazy peoples’ masquerade.

    These people, this entire social class, need some sort of forced mental dieting to wean them of their misapprehensions. For one, they think that they have a mandate to order the affairs of the globe. They think, against all evidence, that they know best. They go to places like Davos to meet with people of like mind where the mental pathology is reinforced.

    Of course, we of the real world know that they are mistaken and even those of us with minimal knowledge of public affairs know what disastrous misconceptions they hold.

    And JHK makes reference in his missive of some of the commonly held financial delusions. It’s astonishing to see how richly detailed some of the craziness is. Like the massively skulled inhabitants of Talos IV, these people at Jackson Hole live in a virtual world, a place of their own imagining, but one apparently real to those sharing the fantasy, with rules and codes and documents and numbers to convince themselves of the solidity of what does not exist.

    They create fantastical edifices where somebody in an office building with massive Greco-Roman architecture imagine themselves as Shaddam the Fourth, Emperor of The Known Universe, with access to occult power and knowledge, or alternatively, Fed Chairman, with courtiers who respectfully address them as such.

    But it doesn’t matter how many people are convinced of the reality of things that aren’t there. It doesn’t matter that the conjurors and rule-makers have got behind them the weight of academies and law-making bodies and a degreed clerisy and armed men that share the delusions. As JHK sez the forces of the universe have a will of their own and reality will poke through.

    • beantownbill. August 25, 2017 at 3:22 pm #

      Geez, V, I’ve been saying for years everyone in power is crazy. Being able to put your pants on one leg at a time just like everyone else doesn’t give you the right to try to rule the world. Davos? Reminds me of Ser Davos Seaworthy because they live in a total fantasy world. Except Ser Davos is competent and knows what he is doing. With our current crop of rulers, Westeros would have fallen to the White Walkers thousands of years ago.

      Wait! This isn’t Westeros, is it, the dragons are gone, and the army of the dead isn’t on the march? Life is so crazy I get very confused, sometimes.

      • malthuss August 25, 2017 at 5:41 pm #

        Crazy or greedy? Crazy or drunk with power?

    • Walter B August 25, 2017 at 4:02 pm #

      Reminds me of Davros of the Daleks and Dr. Who fame. Exterminate, exterminate! Yup its the same guy.

    • ozone August 26, 2017 at 10:20 am #

      “These people, this entire social class, need some sort of forced mental dieting to wean them of their misapprehensions. For one, they think that they have a mandate to order the affairs of the globe. They think, against all evidence, that they know best. They go to places like Davos to meet with people of like mind where the mental pathology is reinforced.”

      V.,
      This is a prime example of believing ones own bullshit. (This is what happens to all professional bullshitters; delusions eventually are converted into facts.) The first delusion that seems to manifest is that they have a mandate from “the people” because, after all, they were freely and without coercion, “elected”. They deliberately forget that a huge amount of monies, glad-handings and confidence games were spent to position themselves as one of two or three other “choices” that elbowed their way (via bullshittery) into this race of the bullshitters. In most cases, the reg’lar folk are not represented at all (but for mouthings and lies), and there was very little choice of which con-man/woman to vote for in the first place. …But the pretense of a “mandate from the people” continues as comforting dream to reinforce the galloping narcissism of these wealth-and-power-chasing assholes. These wonderful humans are very much part of the cadre of AKlein’s “clever ones”, which I’m quite sure translates into “grifters” and “confidence-men/women”. After they shake your hand, check your pockets and your brain to see what’s missing…

  16. FincaInTheMountains August 25, 2017 at 11:56 am #

    Chronicles of the Civil War in the US: War Comes to the Surface

    Yesterday, almost all channels, one political scientist after another, warned that Trump’s impeachment would not be accepted by his voters and the US was facing a bloody civil war. For example:

    Trump adviser Roger Stone warns any politician who votes to impeach him would ‘endanger their own life’
    yahoo.com/news/trump-adviser-roger-stone-warns-091246640.html

    I wonder what he means:

    Shooting on the spot by the army of rebelled people or an electric chair for treason, which will be considered an attempt to overthrow the lawfully elected US president?

    The next step is the order of the Supreme Commander of the US Army to take the buildings of the CIA, the NSA and other intelligence services under control and arrest all inside.

    The task of intelligence is to supply the US President with reliable information, not to engage in the political intrigues.

    Meanwhile, already the fourth Russian ambassador dies under unclear circumstances since Trump moved into the White House. And if this is not an attempt to provoke a conflict with Russia for the impeachment of Trump, then I really do not know what this is?!

    local10.com/news/international/russian-ambassador-is-4th-to-die-since-january

  17. Dumbedup August 25, 2017 at 12:15 pm #

    Hugo Salinas Price has a post on his website about how he sees this unfolding. He writes about the rise of fascism in Italy, Germany and Spain as a reaction to permissive liberalism and predicts something similar in the United States. He believes the end of democracy in the US will arrive as a military coup in the midst of the economic crisis to come. It will be under the guise of the need to restore “order” and end permissiveness. The President (he believes it will be “post-Trump and post-Pence) will be arrested and taken away and Congress and will be suspended. Fiat currency will be replaced with a hard currency like silver. Demonstrations and protests will not be tolerated and protesters of any kind will simply be arrested and placed in FEMA camps.

    • seawolf77 August 25, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

      There’s more than a passing resemblance to 9/11 and the Reichstag Fire or to the Great Fire of Rome Ano Domino 64. Roger Stone is on record saying if the impeach Trump there will be significant civil strife. Maybe that’s the plan. I do not think there is a large enough base of this. 1 in 3. Not big enough. You need 2 in 3, and he’s going in the wrong direction.

      • FincaInTheMountains August 25, 2017 at 1:20 pm #

        In 1917 in Russia Bolsheviks were an absolute minority among politically-active population, less than 0.1%, but they had a clear ideology, unified political center and big hairy balls.

        Yesterday was too early, tomorrow will be too late, so the time is NOW! – V.I. Lenin

      • Anon1970 August 25, 2017 at 4:18 pm #

        I think you meant Anno Domini. Next time just write 64 AD.

    • beantownbill. August 25, 2017 at 3:26 pm #

      That wouldn’t be ok. Imagine the military steering the ship of state. Crash!

    • Anon1970 August 25, 2017 at 4:23 pm #

      I don’t know enough about the Italian and Spanish coups to comment on them. But the end of the Weimar Republic in 1933 was definitely tied to an economic crisis. See “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” chapters 2-6.

  18. 100th Avatar August 25, 2017 at 12:51 pm #

    Credibility of this nation? Rests on Congress?

    The credibility involves lenders (corporations, the wealthy) getting returns from their brokers (the elected senators and congressmen financed into office by the aforementioned lenders) to keep the symbiotic parasitism scheme afloat.

    Why would one fret the coup de grâce?

    • seawolf77 August 25, 2017 at 1:20 pm #

      Well obviously to bring on a war. After World War 1, when just about every country in Europe got sucked in via treaty, the people had learned. Can’t do it that way again. So they manufactured conditions, then they manufactured dictators, and they had World War 2. Now it always is a little tricky. I mean let’s face it, the incubator babies was what got us in Iraq the first time, as pathetic as that now sounds.

  19. seawolf77 August 25, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

    I been waiting on a hurricane
    All the live long day
    I’ve been waiting on a hurricane
    Just to pass the time away

    Can’t you hear the whistle blowing
    Oh so early in the morning
    Can’t you hear the captain shouting
    Donald blow your horn

  20. elysianfield August 25, 2017 at 2:23 pm #

    As usual, Fred is knocking it out of the park.

    fredoneverything.org/to-the-barricades-we-will-at-least-be-less-bored/

    • beantownbill. August 25, 2017 at 3:36 pm #

      Good article.

    • DA August 25, 2017 at 5:04 pm #

      Seconded!

    • Janos Skorenzy August 25, 2017 at 5:10 pm #

      Thirded. You can have Civilization or you can have Blacks making demands. You can either have Whites terrified of Blacks (what we have now) or you can have Blacks afraid (not terrified) of offending Whites – and that’s Civilization. We, the higher Race, must be the standard and enforce the standard. They are secondary. If they don’t accept it, give them a free trip back to Africa. With all the Black Africans going to Europe, there’s lot of open space in the semi-desert countries like Niger and Mali. I’m sure Afro-Americans will avail themselves of the opportunities in these new and wide open lands.

      • DA August 25, 2017 at 5:14 pm #

        Janos can always be trusted for his own unique interpretation.

        • malthuss August 25, 2017 at 5:46 pm #

          Thank God.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 25, 2017 at 5:47 pm #

          Unique? You couldn’t be more wrong: this is what everyone believed when America was Great. Everyone White that is. But that’s the very point: only Whites were considered Americans. We were for ourselves, ourselves alone.

          • DA August 25, 2017 at 6:01 pm #

            Guess we shouldn’t have brought blacks over as slaves then, huh?

          • Janos Skorenzy August 25, 2017 at 7:56 pm #

            Yes, the worst thing we ever did for ourselves and best thing to ever happen to them.

    • ozone August 26, 2017 at 12:47 pm #

      ef.,
      Fred’s got his finger firmly on the essentials here, except in one glaring instance. (Perhaps he hasn’t been following some of the Deep State’s judicial shenanigans.):

      zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-24/judge-approves-warrant-antifa-user-data-anti-trump-website

      Uber-statists rejoice!

      First they came for the anti-fascists, but… (you know the rest)
      …so quit blubbering and choking out ” p-p-per -uck- persecuted v-vic-victim!”, brownshirt jerkwads.

      ” The Justice Department last week proposed amending the scope of its warrant to exclude the IP addresses of website visitors and limit the search only to records from July 1, 2016 to Jan. 20, 2017.

      But DreamHost argued that the warrant was still too broad, as it could sweep in [1.3 MILLION] people who sent emails to disruptj20 addresses. The company objected to the two-step process that would require it to turn over data in bulk and let prosecutors search for and seize evidence of criminal involvement in the riots.”

      …But not to worry Keeds, because there are “safeguards”; everything is nice and legal-like. (I feel better, don’t you?):

      “At Tuesday’s hearing, Judge Mor[o]n said that he recognized the tension between free speech rights and law enforcement’s need to search digital records for evidence. He said he added safeguards to his order granting the government’s request for information in an effort to balance those two concerns.”

      Away we go!

      • elysianfield August 26, 2017 at 7:47 pm #

        Ozone,
        That can’t be right…this is Murica, dammit!

  21. BackRowHeckler August 25, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

    Out there at Jackson Hole were there at one time ranches, cowboys, prospectors and saloons?

    Those were the days!

    Don’t worry, the elite, just like at Davos, will be looking out for your best interest.

    brh

  22. FincaInTheMountains August 25, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

    It is very scary to look at American struggle with historical monuments and historical memory.

    The US is a country with a fairly large arsenal of nuclear, conventional and even financial weapons of mass destruction, which, when turn up in the wrong hands, can inflict enormous damage on the entire planet.

    The United States is plunging into chaos with frightening speed, and the main indicator of the acceleration of the process of chaotization can be considered the ease with which participants in the internal political conflict use in their confrontation those political technologies that were previously used exclusively against external enemies.

    From the point of view of social technologies, now in America there is a civil war with the use of the political technology that is equivalent of nuclear weapons. The tools used by the Clintonoids are not designed for selective use. When the Trump team made the decision to respond symmetrically, the destruction of memorials in Seattle began – and it became clear that the chaotic process is approaching the point of no return.

    The proposals to “finish up” civil wars or “remember and resolve” historical grievances were instruments of undermining geopolitical opponents such as Russia (the USSR) or problematic colonies such as India. The tools worked very efficiently, and now the time has come when, within the internal political struggle in the United States, weapons were used, which before had been applied only to external enemies. The image of the past, which unites the country, is breaking at the seams – and thus plunges into chaos the image of the future.

    The Clintonoids and their ideology very much resemble an evil parody of the radical “red” Trotskyites of 1920s of the 20th century, but this is a very wicked parody.

    As a “class of oppressors,” not wealthy corporate owners are designated, but white heterosexual men who, according to modern American leftists, should be incredibly ashamed for being white, for being heterosexual, and for being men.

    Accordingly, they must pay and repent for everything: for slavery, social inequality, environmental problems, for the fact that the African-American population has low incomes and poor grades in the school.

    Separately, they must repent for historical science and art, which allegedly reflect the misogynistic, patriarchal and racist set of values of “white heterosexual men” and are declared the source of all evil, and the main beneficiaries of the system of exploitation of all other social groups.

    For the man of Russian civilization, all of the above sounds like nonsense, but this is practically the official ideology of a very aggressive and very influential part of American society and the American elite.

    For the Clintonoids such a toxic ideology is a tool of war with Donald Trump and his supporters, but this tool can not be applied point-by-point, which means that a civil conflict is inevitable.

    • JimInFlorida August 25, 2017 at 3:43 pm #

      With all of our dirty laundry and collective dysfunction on parade, I marvel at how Kim Jong Un has so utterly failed to make propaganda points at our expense. Same thing with Iran and Russia.

      Those people have ZERO imagination and they’re letting our Clown Car Crisis go to waste.

      • FincaInTheMountains August 25, 2017 at 3:49 pm #

        Jim, you want the rest of the world to throw gasoline into that fire, while everybody having their pants full of hot piss?

        This is not a CIRCUS, this is Political Weapons of Mass Destructions, the Orange Revolution Social technologies worked out by Anglo-Saxons for centuries, being used in the internal war in US.

        • JimInFlorida August 25, 2017 at 4:49 pm #

          I’m saying that our “enemies” have a golden opportunity to take punditry and mockery to new levels of entertainment.

          I wouldn’t suggest agitation but, the kind of political satire that compels Washington to be more mindful of its behavior.

          • elysianfield August 26, 2017 at 11:32 am #

            “pants full of hot piss?”

            “golden opportunity”

            JIF,
            …Keep ’em coming….

    • DA August 25, 2017 at 5:03 pm #

      I see you’re back on your meds today Finca. NICE POST!

  23. Bruce E August 25, 2017 at 4:45 pm #

    Buffet Index seems to indicate market is at least 40% overvalued relative to GDP:

    advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2017/08/03/market-cap-to-gdp-an-updated-look-at-the-buffett-v…

    So, the Dow correcting itself from 22k to 16k would be tame by previous corrections. In fact previous corrections swung through the point that the index seems to point to as the “right” price and bounce at a point below about the same distance as it is above, so instead of 22k to 26k it would go down to 10k-11k before bouncing, or a 50% drop. The pace of the previous market drops seems to be in the 1-2 year range so we’re talking about losing 3% to 6% every month. Note the rise since Election Day (18k to 22k) was a fairly consistent 2% to 3% every month for 9 months such that our way back down, the “pop” of the bubble, may not look all that bad at first, say if we go back down from 22k to 18k between now and the end of the year at a -5%/month pace.

    • malthuss August 25, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

      Thanks. Timburrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  24. FincaInTheMountains August 25, 2017 at 5:16 pm #

    The Dulles’ Plan Kicked the Bucket

    You can’t blame the director of the CIA, Mike Pompeo of being a Russophile and “understanding Putin”, but Hillary he hates fiercely and, apparently, standing before a choice between a strong feeling for her and an equally strong feeling for Putin’s Russia, he chose love for America, which simply will not be if the Witch can not be stopped.

    In any case, a panic began among the Clintonoids, when he demanded a report from the unit, which together with the relevant FBI unit investigates the Russian links to Trump’s election campaign.

    thehill.com/homenews/administration/347931-cia-wary-of-pompeos-interest-in-agency-tied-to-russia-inv…

    And judging from the fact that after the unexpected death of the Russian ambassador in Sudan, Mike Pompeo demanded a report from the aforementioned CIA unit and the press suddenly recalled his visit to Moscow and a meeting with Putin, and at the MetroFocus began to discuss the need to dissolve the CIA created by Dulles, they were worried not for nothing .

    yahoo.com/news/mike-pompeo-apos-moscow-visit-171010456.html

    P.S. The Russian ambassador in the Sudan, Mirgayas Shirinsky, was drowned in the pool.

    yahoo.com/news/m/9f01a2c3-4bdd-38c6-91cb-06b0537b045d/ss_coincidence%3F-russian.html

    Apparently, the Red-with-White-dots project, of which Putin’s Russia is a part, dealt a preemptive blow to the Black Project, which was in the final stages of its plan to overthrow President Trump:

    Psychiatrists tell Congress Donald Trump is “a clear and present danger” to the world

    yahoo.com/news/psychiatrists-tell-congress-donald-trump-074136725.html

    And “clear and present danger” – formula, which until now was used only to denote the need to strike at the enemy, ready to attack the United States.

  25. Janos Skorenzy August 25, 2017 at 5:35 pm #

    Good analysis.

    Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue.

    I was just a boy the first time I heard that statement, and remember initially comprehending it the way a Congolese would calculus. Though once the meaning became clear I always cherished it as a particularly witty truism. The hypocrite concedes his villainy by paying lip service to honor. If he believed his actions were just, then his words would match them. The faithful husband doesn’t preach about the righteousness of infidelity. Thus virtue pays no reciprocal tribute to vice.

    I note a similar phenomenon frequently on the left. And never more so than in discussions of their most lurid vice of all: white eradication. This yearning for racial elimination used to be an understandably furtive affair. Liberals would express such a malign desire the same way they masturbate: only with gerbils.

    But as the Overton Window has reached Armageddon, it has actually become more socially acceptable to say you want whites dead than want them alive. Certainly only one of these positions would be denounced by Marco Rubio.

    Though somewhere deep in their dormant ganglions, even a democrat dimly understands the moral ambiguity of killing off a whole race of people (particularly your own). That’s why such awkward dissonance is assuaged by ridiculous fictions about social constructs. All of which only serve to provide the rationalization of You can’t say we want to murder you if we say you don’t exist. That’s not an impressive acrobatics routine to a target audience; but it’s only targeting the one in the subject’s head.

    But sometimes these mental backflips land ludicrously awry. That was the case recently with a roundly lampooned tweet from one of those ubiquitous “my fellow white peoples.”


    It’s satisfying to always remember that none of the descendants of the people screaming about the myth of white genocide will be white.

    Did you get that? White genocide is a myth, and in the future there will be no whites to say otherwise. This sort of extremely common doublethink is a liberal’s subconscious paying tribute from their vice of eradication to their virtue of self-saintliness.

    If leftists actually believed their yearnings weren’t moral filth then there would be no reason to disparage what they advocate as a myth. Hypocrites preach fidelity while cheating; liberals preach fantasy while doing. The quoted writer is openly thrilled at the prospect of there being no whites, and convinced it will come to pass. But he dismisses his own certainty as myth. He does this because he needs a mirror that doesn’t reflect a monstrosity. And that means we’re definitely not doing what we’re definitely going to do.

    One of the dumber–and thus most predictable–rebuttals to the white genocide accusation is the one that asks: Where are the bodies? Who is killing you? That second question is one the entire media suffers many pains to obscure. Though more importantly, the absence of systematic killings is not the absence of systematic suppression.

    Imagine this scenario, just as a hypothetical. Imagine if I were able to propagandize credulous young women through uncontested control of the media, entertainment, and academia complexes. And through these channels was able to motivate huge numbers of them to spend the brief bloom of their fertility on birth control while pursuing careers and periscoping altruism in lieu of their own marriage and family. What if I relentlessly glamorized miscegenation, foreign adoption, and a childish life with no children? If I were successful, then the magic of math would quickly and quietly do my work–while liberal tweeters were unquietly crowing about the results.

    What if I also viciously taxed those families that did form in order to subsidize the prolific fecundity of imported foreigners and a hostile underclass? These being people who will, in turn, elect representation even more aligned against our target population. What if I also was able to deny safe homogenous habitats, crush their community social capital, and force them into extravagant private tuition bills for each expensive child to avoid the diversity I have seeded everywhere?

    To be honest, I’m feeling fairly optimistic about my mythical genocide at this point.

    And as the birth rate of these demonized and indoctrinated people cratered, and the massive majority country most adults were born into dissolved before their eyes, I would field their complaints coquettishly and say I have no idea what you’re talking about…but I sure do like it.

    But what I like even more is imagining the day virtue pays its tribute back to vice.

  26. malthuss August 25, 2017 at 5:44 pm #

    CRISIS IN TEXAS–SHELVES GOING BARE–

    youtube.com/watch?v=soH5ewyKyZM

  27. pequiste August 25, 2017 at 6:07 pm #

    Money? What is it? What can it do? Why are the poobahs visiting Wyoming to hobnob and chat about it?

    For clarity, let’s use the U.S. Federal Reserve Note and other dollar denominated digital assets (the world’s Reserve Currency/Petro dollar.)

    – $15 an hour for lumpen-schmoe labor (out of options but paying for it.)

    – $1,500 + for such-a-bargain, family of four visit to Dizney World for the worst in time-wasting erzatz nonsense. That’s just for the four, four-day tickets with Park Hopper option!

    – $15,000.00 for a slabbed 1952 Topps MIckey Mantle Baseball card.

    – About 10 times more money for a slick Franck Muller timepiece:
    http://www.chrono24.com/franckmuller/franck-muller-cintree-curvex-tourbillon-imperial-repeater–5850-rm-t–id4569940.htm

    – Maybe a permanent yachting vacation in the zone of bikinis and azure waters is more enticing with a cool $15,00,000.00 Feadship:
    yachtworld.com/boats/1999/Feadship-782-3079565/Spain#.WaCS1iiGOaE

    (You better be able to afford the 15,000 gallons of diesel fuel fill up; the crew of minimum five to get things where you can enjoy yourself; provisioning to ensure the larder and wine cellar can handle the party and don’t forget dockage fees. But hey a Goldman Sachs warlock, Technocrat tycoon, or Hollyweird celebrity has no problem with the kind of payouts that are happening today in La La Land, Wall Street and Silicon Valley.)

    – $150,000,000.00 gets a nice palace and some hectares plus maybe a nice established “vignoble” in a used-to-be-stable Euro-zone country.

    – A couple of billion simoleons can get youz the preznitcy of the U.S.A. if youz are so inclined.

    – Tens of billions of greenbacks will provide a princely way to traverse the material world….Or you could be a mewling dipshit like Mr. T-Shirt , Mark “I am taking all of your information and selling it to Mephistopheles himself for a tidy sum” Zuckerberg.

    – A several hundred billion might get the average megalomaniac their own country? Vlad Putin is working on it.

    – Anything over the trillion dollar mark, one needs to talk to the Rockefellers and their overlords the Rothschilds. They own a whole bunch of blue planet. All accomplished now with flashing zeros and ones on screens across the world.

    By the way, they will be sending their agents with instructions for the Evil Fucker Central Bankers doing their demonic bidding at money magic show playing in Jackson Hole.

    The controlled demolition will not be controlled at all however This is not World Trade Center Building #7. The key here is electricity and computers and one or the other (or both) fails and all that ersatz money – and everything else with it- goes out the window and reality will sure set in.

    When the EBT cards don’t work because the internet gets “jammed up” or the power grid gets hacked, or perhaps a terrorist event takes it down, then we will have an implosion of mythical proportions and the imaginary money will mean nothing.

    ” ….in our civilization money is God..” JHK

    “God is dead” Nietzche by way of Zarathustra

    • JohnAZ August 25, 2017 at 7:00 pm #

      In our world, money is God. Money is what the banking system says it is. The banking system is run by a very few people in very high places, the global elite. The rise of the middle class during the Renaissance heralded the need for money for exchange. The fall of the middle class today heralds perhaps the fall of money. Hello there, feudal society. The real problem becomes what do you do with all those extra people that are not needed anymore. Shades of the Black Death.

  28. janet August 25, 2017 at 7:24 pm #

    “Yesterday, almost all channels, one political scientist after another, warned that Trump’s impeachment would not be accepted by his voters…” –finca

    Those who appear on main stream media are all crazy–volodya told us so.

    Gonna be a lot of disappointed Trump supporters soon.

    • DA August 26, 2017 at 5:09 pm #

      Gonna be a lot more disappointed Americans when he gets removed, although granted, that realization will probably take a while longer.

  29. janet August 25, 2017 at 7:32 pm #

    If “Money is our God” … then why can’t our god do something about North Korea which has fired 18 missiles during 12 tests since February, further perfecting its technology with each launch, including more missile launches today.

    I thought Trump’s “fire and fury” threats were supposed to stop North Korea. Seems they aren’t afraid of Trump or military threats or money threats.

    • Walter B August 25, 2017 at 9:25 pm #

      They weren’t afraid of O Blow-so either were they? As far as I know there are only four countries (countries that matter that is) that do not have Central Banks and they are China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea. You’ve got to follow the money honey, THAT is what is all about. Yes, I know it is all counterfeit and has no value, but as long as human beings are willing to do ANYTHING to get it, it still has POWER and therefore, value.

      • JimInFlorida August 25, 2017 at 9:40 pm #

        Even Kim is under the curse of “Made In China” parts as his missiles have a high failure rate.

        Got to give the DPRK credit for punching way over their industrial weight. Building a homemade submarine capable of firing ballistic missiles is an incredible achievement.

        • Walter B August 25, 2017 at 9:47 pm #

          None of us , my friend, even in our wisest moment, will ever be able to understand why, and to what purpose those bozos in North Korea even open there mouths, much less do the bizarre things that they do. It is beyond comprehension and if you or I would have spent any time at all blustering so much bullshit from any soap box anywhere that I can think of, we would be stuck inside cells with padded walls a long time ago. This will never make any sense at all….

          • DA August 26, 2017 at 5:02 pm #

            Not so sure Walter. The sheer ridiculousness of all this makes me suspect it’s just another deep state conspiracy. Think about it, how much would it take to influence a tin-pot dictator of a thoroughly third world shit-hole to dance in a string? Not much, I think.

  30. Pucker August 25, 2017 at 9:40 pm #

    The idea that white Americans in the context of the mid-19th century launched a genocidal war to kill other white people in order to help black people is on its face absurd. And that Americans today believe it is incredible.

    The horrible truth is that Lincoln overthrew the republican form of government in which strong states are a necessary bulwark against an out-of-control central government bent on Empire and domination. Anyone who questions this dogma is….

  31. Pucker August 25, 2017 at 9:42 pm #

    During the Chinese Cultural Revolution, to aggrandize their own power they declared History and the past Evil and an enemy and then started smashing monuments and desecrating statues and graves in the “Destroy the Four Olds” movement (Po Si Jiu Yundong ?????)

  32. tucsonspur August 25, 2017 at 10:44 pm #

    Did anyone see me there in Phoenix? I was wearing a Trump T-shirt and a red MAGA cap, draped in the American flag, standing in rocket buster boots. Wasn’t carrying my peacemakers.

    Arizona. Land of the Apache and Arpaio. ‘Nuff said. I’m out.

  33. Pucker August 25, 2017 at 10:59 pm #

    “Controlled Demolition”—I thought that JHK is in his own words allergic to conspiracy theories”?

    Doesn’t “Controlled Demolition” suggest Building 7 on 9-11?

    • messianicdruid August 25, 2017 at 11:38 pm #

      It’s not a conspiracy, it’s a business plan.

      [ how did I do Q? ]

    • James Howard Kunstler August 26, 2017 at 9:27 am #

      Correct, i do not believe the Building 7 story regarding “controlled demolition.” Conspiracy nonsense. — JHK

      • DA August 26, 2017 at 11:01 am #

        Need to check that bias Jim. You’ve got a real blind spot there.

        • MrTibbs August 26, 2017 at 12:07 pm #

          …..it’s called Directed Energy Weapon. (DEW)
          youtube.com/watch?v=vadSaWyiozg&feature=youtu.be

          And the WTC’s served as a perfect proof of concept in the design of experiment.

          The carbon footprint created by DEW is far less than hot fusion or hot fission.

          -T
          They Call Me Mr. Tibbs.
          youtube.com/watch?v=r0hytuh6GIk

          • DA August 26, 2017 at 4:02 pm #

            Sorry Tibbs, that’s a CIA planted and supported misdirection myth. The true story is far simpler: military grade micro-thermite explosives sprayed on the the towers’ supporting columns as part of a tremendously lucrative “fire-proofing” upgrade in the weeks before the demolition, at which time controlled demolition charges and squibs were also installed and wired. 9-11 was nothing more than a rather straight-forward controlled demolition job, albeit with a whole lot of aeronautical pyrotechnic whiz-bang special effects applied for propagandistic effect.

        • messianicdruid August 26, 2017 at 2:32 pm #

          “Some Muslims, mainly Saudi Arabians, delivered the greatest humiliation to a superpower since David slew Goliath. They outsmarted all 17 US intelligence agencies and those of NATO and Israel, the National Security Council, the Transportation Safety Administration, Air Traffic Control, and Dick Cheney, hijacked four US airliners on one morning, brought down three World Trade Center skyscrapers, destroyed that part of the Pentagon where research was underway into the missing $2.3 trillion, and caused the morons in Washington to blame Afghanistan instead of Saudi Arabia.”

          paulcraigroberts.org/2017/08/25/conspiracy-theory/

          • DA August 26, 2017 at 4:07 pm #

            That would be the second best story out there and tremendously damning in itself IF it were true. Trouble is, it isn’t. The REAL story is FAR more damning.

            Secondarily, that story strongly supports the expansion of the Military Police state, which is why it’s allowed to persist. We weren’t strong enough. Bollocks!

        • JimInFlorida August 27, 2017 at 2:22 pm #

          I think our benevolent host is too heavily invested in his, “Allergic to Conspiracies,” meme to back down. He is not blind but, cannot admit he was wrong on such a crucial point of belief.

          For it would mean that he must then admit to living in a psychopathic State and must face those parties who are integral to it.

          There’s no point in rehashing it all. The evidence is all out there and doesn’t need my embellishment.

          By sheer diktat, the “Official Account” has already been entered and is the Official Record forever. The Truth will be forgotten and nobody, 50+ years from now, will have any idea that 9/11 happened any other way than what the “official record” shows.

          George Orwell for the win! THEY got away with it.

      • Petro August 26, 2017 at 4:37 pm #

        “Correct, i do not believe the Building 7 story regarding “controlled demolition.” Conspiracy nonsense.” — JHK

        Oh, Geez… here we go. Okay, deny facts. Deny eyewitness accounts. Deny the statements of architects, engineers, and demolition experts (who have little to gain but ridicule). Deny the laws of physics. Hell, deny even your own eyes.

        What if it was proposed that the “Deep State” cabal had a role? Surely they’re capable of more than just taking out a president. Or maybe the “Wall Street Bankers” cabal, with their espresso machines and salad shooters? Or the misandrous “Campus Feminist” cabal currently placing the poor white male under siege (talk about nonsense). Would any of those conspirators do?

        I guess some possibilities are just too monstrous for even the most ardent doomsayer to consider, preferring to believe the official (Deep State) conspiracy theory (19 Middle Eastern losers)—because we can always believe what we’re told by those guys, right?

        • DA August 26, 2017 at 4:54 pm #

          THANK YOU Petro! Cognitive dissonance is INDEED a bitch!

    • DA August 26, 2017 at 11:03 am #

      Theory? I consider 9-11 settled science at this point. The official story is complete bunk.

      • elysianfield August 26, 2017 at 11:35 am #

        DA,
        May I ask you to what purpose the building was destroyed? What was the logic, the sought after end result?

        • messianicdruid August 26, 2017 at 12:29 pm #

          If I may – it is no longer there. k.i.s.s.

        • ozone August 26, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

          e.,
          It was the command center for the wiring and detonation of the Twin Towers. Plus it held a massive amount of records that it was deemed necessary to “disappear” along with the physical evidence.

          Here’s one insignificant resident (S.E.C.) of the 13th floor. “So, you say you’re about to be prosecuted by the SEC? Gotcha covered…”:

          “Clearly what happened was a severe blow,” Wayne Carlin, the SEC’s Northeast regional director, told the Washington Post. “It will slow us down, and we will need some amount of time to recover.”

          The office, which enforces SEC regulations, lost files on about 300 pending investigations, including a major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom.

          Mr. Carlin said there were no plans to drop any pending matters. “We lost a lot of stuff, though some of it is reconstructible,” he said. “Anybody who is under our investigation would be making a mistake if they thought they were in the clear.”

          The SEC will probably be able to get new copies of documents from the parties that turned them over initially, Mr. Carlin said.

          **Scroll on down for a big bunch of motives for destruction.**

          • ozone August 26, 2017 at 1:20 pm #

            …That is — scroll on down THIS LINKED page! 😉

            wtc7.net/articles/elitewatch_7wtc.html

          • elysianfield August 26, 2017 at 7:58 pm #

            Ozone,
            Sooo, the destruction of the towers had no bearing on going to war? Was the attack by aircraft ancillary to a plot to destroy evidence? A coincidence occurring at the same time as the planned demolition?

            The aircraft attacking the buildings were cause enough to go to war without the destruction of those buildings.

            SEC investigations usually have monetary penalties…that and a bit of money in the right hands mitigates the pain. Simple burglary seems an easier method

            I am very skeptical…but will follow the link you suggested.

        • DA August 26, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

          But to the main point, regardless of the who’s and why’s, which will always be an ongoing “conspiracy theory” since no one involved of any great importance is ever going to confess outright, the fact that all three towers were brought down by controlled demolition is no longer even contested among serious people who haven’t drank the official kool aid. And once you know that for sure, then all the rest of it comes unraveled fairly quickly (no aircraft wreckage or body parts at all at either the Pentagon or Pennsylvania crash site, etc). Who, other than a well-connected group of insiders, had the means and motivation to pull off an operation this big? A small group of disaffected Saudi radicals? Give me a break!

          • elysianfield August 26, 2017 at 8:26 pm #

            DA,
            I scanned the link presented. I’m sorry, but we will have to agree to disagree on this topic.

        • DA August 26, 2017 at 3:51 pm #

          One more thing and I’ll drop this subject, as I know Jim doesn’t like this discussed on his blog, but when responding to the question of why 9-11 happened, I forgot to mention the most important thing of all! It was first and foremost “the new Pearl Harbor” or casus beli that PNAC (Project for New American Century) had mentioned openly throughout the 90’s as a means to get the American people to support war in the mideast (“drain the swamp”) to gain uncontested control of the remaining oil supplies (which those in the know have long known are drawing down as we speak) in particular, and globally in general.

          Of course, other tremendously lucrative financial opportunities presented themselves in the process as well, but these were just so much icing on the cake and reasons to attract and properly motivate others on the periphery of the project who might have otherwise been disinclined to participate, absent additional “coercive measures.” Like any operation of this magnitude, motivations were no doubt many and varied among the participants, most of whom had only an extremely limited knowledge of the overall larger project scope, although for most that quickly became quite apparent after the fact. All by design of course. Standard operations straight out of the CIA playbook, which they then dutifully and smartly applied to the alleged modus operandi of the alleged terror cells, which they themselves created, both in fact and in legend.

      • DA August 26, 2017 at 1:30 pm #

        Looks like Ozone covered this response pretty well already. In short, money and the assured continuation of the ongoing financial fraud.

      • JimInFlorida August 27, 2017 at 2:32 pm #

        The “official story” is the “official record.” The Truth of 9/11 is already rapidly fading from the public consciousness. We Teh Slaves still work, we still have our Bread and Circuses, we can still buy what we want at Wal-Mart, McDonalds is still open, and we can still light off fireworks and get drunk every July 4th. FREEDOM! ‘Murica, FUCK YEAH!

        All that matters is, 50+ years from now, nobody will be able to prove the Party wrong because ALL official and “credible” records show the “official story.”

        George Orwell for the win. THEY got away with it!

  34. Pucker August 26, 2017 at 12:12 am #

    The Horrible Ugly, Stinky Truth…The Terrible Fart from the Church Pulpit….

    Do you know why the Zapruder Film wasn’t released until March, 1975? Because it clearly shows that the fatal shot that killed JFK came from the front rather than from the State Textbook Depository behind JFK.

    Do you know why the Generals told both Obama and Trump to fuck off when they tried to pull US troops out of Afghanistan? Because the US Government is selling opiates to the American people, and they want to control the poppy fields.

    • Walter B August 26, 2017 at 6:00 am #

      Yes, our military is actually patrolling these fields to keep the other guys from destroying, this is a fact. There are also many other natural resources that we take and there are uncountable billions in cash “hand outs/redirecting” that goes on as well. Many Americans grow rich every day from the unsavory and “illegal” operations that go on there.

      • DA August 26, 2017 at 4:28 pm #

        HBO’s Snowfall explores this subject, albeit it in a very rudimentary manner and only 35 years(!) after the fact, Hey, better late than never! The sadder fact is that most Americans are fully cognizant of the shit our elected government’s up to, but they either feel powerless to stop it or they simply don’t care. The good news is that this is also how empires fail. When overt corruption becomes systemic and apathy rules the day, collapse and dissolution become not only inevitable, but welcomed by all involved.

  35. Pucker August 26, 2017 at 12:53 am #

    “When I was a child I acted as a child. But when I became a man I realized that through dependence on and blind belief in the government that I could continue my childish irresponsibility and childhood delusions.”

    • DA August 26, 2017 at 4:30 pm #

      When I was a child, I saw through the bullshit of my elders intuitively. When I became a man, I remained a child at heart and see through it still.

  36. Pucker August 26, 2017 at 1:46 am #

    “When I was a child I acted as a child. But when I became a man I went to college.”

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=sMr2BxA_HVU&feature=youtu.be

    • DA August 26, 2017 at 4:32 pm #

      I went to college late in life and realized that it actually made me more ignorant of everything that matters. But I’m recovering nicely.

  37. Pucker August 26, 2017 at 2:29 am #

    Do you Know Jesus? It’s all about networking. It’s all about Who-You-Know.

    • elysianfield August 26, 2017 at 11:37 am #

      Pucker
      “You can go your college, you can go to your school, but if you don’t know Jesus, you’re and educated fool.”

      …Heard that somewhere….

    • DA August 26, 2017 at 4:47 pm #

      I met Jesus in a Home Depot in Santa Fe a few years back. Said he had retired from the Messiah gig already, but of course God had stupidly put his pension fund in Bernie Madoff’s hands, so now he was back to doing good works and an occasional odd miracle or two for a living. He was in great spirits though, as would be expected of a “personal saviour” of his repute. His advice? Drop out, tune in, and turn on. So I asked him if Timothy Leary hadn’t already said that a while back. “Yes,” he said, “but good advice, remains good advice. And the REALLY good news is you don’t even need drugs or alcohol to do it, if you’re doing it right.”

      • elysianfield August 26, 2017 at 8:07 pm #

        DA,
        Glad to hear he is looking for work and turning his life around….

  38. PeteAtomic August 26, 2017 at 7:37 am #

    Trump doesn’t scare me, really. I notice that maybe 90 % of the criticism about Trump isn’t about his policies, but his personality. I think that says a lot in itself about how the executive is a popularity contest, and maybe how little it matters to many people whether an executive is effective or not. I don’t know.

    What I’m concerned about is who comes after Trump, and I’m not meaning some demagogue. On the contrary, an extremely entrenched politician who is mired in the failure of the status quo, would be a real disaster for the country. However, that’s who I see as the next president, and that scares me.

    • DA August 26, 2017 at 10:59 am #

      The lesson of Trump is that the US President is a mere figurehead. Something many people have long known, but which is now becoming apparent to a great many more. If nothing else, Trump forced the Deep State to show their hand, something they were previously very reluctant to do. Not that it will make a great deal of difference in the short term. The Deep State and the MICC remain more firmly in control than ever right now. The true demagogues exist already within the Globalist network, hiding in plain sight, albeit out of the limelight.

  39. FincaInTheMountains August 26, 2017 at 7:46 am #

    Trump attacks the Clintonoids, and the Prettiest of the Pussy Riot Members Reveals the Secret of his Victory

    The main media outlet of the Clintonoids magazine Foreign Policy yesterday published an article that if Trump pardons Sheriff Joe Arpaio, it will provoke a horrific constitutional crisis.

    And in a few hours Trump pardoned him, but he didn’t tease them or show the tongue like Pinocchio. And he could – our President is young at heart and his wife is beautiful!

    yahoo.com/news/pardoning-joe-arpaio-constitutional-crisis-180558241.html

    theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-pardon-arpaio/537729/

    And all the time it seems to me that this is somehow connected with Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, who quit trying to teach Americans Russian indecent swearing, but now became a political commentator on the most powerful US news channel, CNN.

    Her hairstyle is called “Female of a Snowman”, and she with this hairstyle languidly covering her eyes in very good English explains to Americans that the love of authoritarianism that Donald Trump personifies in the White House is a sexually transmitted disease.

    Well, you now understand what the Russian hackers did with the election campaign of Hillary Clinton and the National Committee of the Democratic Party headed by Mrs. Wasserman-Schulz?

    youtube.com/watch?v=_ncg2nJNOBs

    And Nadezhda will go far! I hope she does not intend to become US president. After all, for the sake of Female of a Snowman, Americans can change the Constitution.

    • DA August 26, 2017 at 10:17 am #

      She sings a very effective and alluring Sirens’ song against authoritarianism. No doubt she’s a well paid fool for the globalists. They know that radical authoritarianism is merely a peoples’ nationalist response to the anarchy and terror that the globalists have unleashed all over the world. Authoritarianism can’t be resisted head on, as it’s a natural response to current conditions (and a limited amount in certain social conditions is not universally a bad thing), only the underlying causes can be relieved. The globalists (the TRUE global terrorists) need to be identified, rooted out, and then exterminated. A monumental multi-generation task to say the least, but that is the only relevant battle to be fought right now.

  40. janet August 26, 2017 at 11:06 am #

    “I notice that maybe 90 % of the criticism about Trump isn’t about his policies…” –Pete Atomic

    In 2013 and then all through the campaign, Trump portrayed himself as the anti-war candidate. He criticized Bush. He criticized Obama. He said we should bring the troops in Afghanistan home.

    Now Trump is continuing the same Afghanistan policy as Bush and Obama, saying the troops should stay forever (to not tip off the Taliban).

    Trump is just another politician who bows to the military, ignoring that our last 16 years in Aghanistan have created more terrorists than we have killed. Rumsfeld even admitted that. The Taliban is stronger now.

    Trump wants to increase troops by five to seven thousand, but won’t be honest with taxpayers about the end game in Afghanistan.

    With Iran and Russia supporting the Taliban, a Trump victory is not possible. And what are 7,000 more troops going to do that Obama’s 100,000 troop level could not do?

    It is easy to criticize Trump on policies because president Trump is flip flopping on the very policies announced by candidate Trump. He lied to the American people who voted for him. That’s a fact, not a personal attack.

    • messianicdruid August 26, 2017 at 11:52 am #

      If you understand that the “deplorables” will be held accountable for Trump’s actions [ and failures ] then you also understand why your darling was dispossessed.

  41. volodya August 26, 2017 at 11:35 am #

    New York City may control, may want to control, but they couldn’t stop the election of Trump. They may hold some cards but they don’t hold all of them.

    Last night I watched Mark Shields and David Brooks on PBS Newshour. And there you had elite delusion in full flower, Mark and David and the moderator Judy Woodruff burbling on about their fantasy world, which they do weekly, a carefully constructed view of recent happenings as they did not happen, about people and places that do not exist. Maybe they can’t face the country as it is. Maybe they’re troubled by their own complicity in its creation.

    They still can’t come to grips with reality and especially the reality of the Trump presidency. They still misdiagnose the reasons for his win. They downplay those societal and economic forces that actually propelled Trump, instead they talk about and play-up those make-believe factors more to their liking.

    I wonder if they actually believe what they’re saying. There’s generally accepted cant, no matter how off-the-mark it is, and, if they diverge from it, there’s real consequences. They ARE card-carrying members of the exclusive club of people whose opinion is supposed to matter. A career at those nose-bleed heights is no small thing. You don’t want to risk it.

    How did Manhattan and Washington mess up this last election? It’s simple really, they ignored what was real.

    Fred writes about Shicklegruber who said that the public is stupid, that they can be made to believe shit by repeating it over and over. In this case, the reverse is true, the American elite is stupid, they repeat nonsensical narratives to themselves over and over and come to believe them.

    This is how elites lose control, how events overcome even the most entrenched and armed and protected interests. It happened not long ago to the nomenklatura running Iron Curtain countries on behalf of Russia. Bye-bye. Bye-bye Russian Empire. If you don’t deal with reality, it deals with you.

    I differ with Fred. The people at the top, in the editorial suites in Manhattan, at Goldman Sachs, at Lockheed Martin, don’t know what they’re doing. Yes, they want Trump out so they can continue with their looting. Others have said as much, even in this forum. But if they knew what they were doing, if they actually controlled as much as they thought, Trump wouldn’t be in the Oval Office in the first place.

    Maybe spinning preposterous narratives is a way of self-comforting, a way of assuaging the hurt of loss. But this next thing, the removal of Trump, is no small thing. Better be careful. This is no time for fairy-tales. This is serious.

    • elysianfield August 26, 2017 at 11:54 am #

      “Fred writes about Shicklegruber who said that the public is stupid, that they can be made to believe shit by repeating it over and over. In this case, the reverse is true, the American elite is stupid, they repeat nonsensical ”

      Volodya,
      Stupidity? More probably just part of the human condition. It seems most people, us included, are at times swayed by repeated suggestion.

      The internet’s ability to give voice to every swinging-dick with an opinion will not end well. We seek those with similar opinion, and that opinion, however skewed, is then reinforced.

      If you look at a compass, it has 360 degrees of division. It has occurred to me that those 360 degrees mimic human perception…assemble enough people, and you will find 360 different observations of any event…some mostly imperceptible from the majority, some heavily skewed…all points of the compass represented.

      It’s that “RASHOMON” thing…and the internet allows it be writ large….

    • messianicdruid August 26, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

      “Glubb goes into the second commonality between all of these historical ‘master nations’ — they all followed an identical progression of stages, and while they may have ultimately ended due to invasion or financial ruin or cultural failure, they all followed the same progression.

      The Age of Pioneers (outburst)
      The Age of Conquests
      The Age of Commerce
      The Age of Affluence
      The Age of Intellect
      The Age of Decadence
      How do you know a country has reached the age of decadence? You see the following indicators:

      Defensiveness
      Pessimism
      Materialism
      Frivolity
      An influx of foreigners
      The Welfare State
      A weakening of religion
      So where, pray tell, do you think the United States is on that timeline?”

      patrickhenrysociety.com/hard-truths-biggest-duty/

  42. MrTibbs August 26, 2017 at 11:59 am #

    CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.
    youtube.com/watch?v=vadSaWyiozg&feature=youtu.be

    They Call Me Mr. Tibbs.
    -T
    youtube.com/watch?v=r0hytuh6GIk

  43. janet August 26, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

    “…most people, us included, are at times swayed by repeated suggestion.” –elysianfield

    “We are going to build a big beautiful wall… and I know about building, believe me… and Mexico is going to pay for it!”

    Trump promises Mexico will pay for the (non-existent) wall, but wants congress to send him a budget with money for the wall. If congress does not include the money for the wall, Trump says he will veto and shut down the government.

    All of this is set to take place in 30 days. Do you think Trump means what he says? If Trump is going to have Mexico pay for the wall, why should we the taxpayers have to pay billions for the wall in the congressional budget? Will Trump really shut down the government over an unnecessary wall? (net immigration is zero; Obama stopped the flood of illegal immigrants and deported millions)

  44. FincaInTheMountains August 26, 2017 at 3:00 pm #

    Philosophical Foundations of Orthodoxy

    First of all, it should be noted that Christianity = Abrahamic Judaism offered humanity a completely new type of history in the form of a segment with a pronounced Origin:

    Genesis = 7 days of Creation

    Middle or main body:
    Creation;
    The Fall: is the fall of Creation from the Creator;
    The mission of Christ: 8th day of creation = salvation from slavery to Sin = the age of the Church and the Holy Spirit

    The end:
    The Second Coming of Christ, Last Judgment, Eternity.

    Prior to this, paganism offered mankind the idea of cyclic development, that is, movement in a circle or in a straight line without beginning and end, beautifully set forth in the book of Ecclesiastes, attributed to the son of King David and the builder of the First Temple, King Solomon, who out of love for women’s caresses almost returned together with his people to paganism:

    What has happened will happen again; there is nothing new here on earth. Someone might say, “Look, this is new,” but really it has always been here. It was here before we were.

    But in addition to these concepts of history, there is also the concept of history, which offers the dualism of Zarathushtra, also known as Mazdaism: a ray that has a clear beginning, but has no end. This is due to the fact that the world consisting of the world of Spirit and the world of Matter was originally created by two beginnings, two creators:

    Ormuzd – the creator of the world = Spirit and Good, and through him, Spirit and Good are inseparably connected with each other and with Light.

    Ahriman – the creator of Matter and Evil, and through him Matter and Evil are inextricably linked to each other

    Their struggle has its beginning but has no end, since it is impossible to destroy Ahriman and his seeds of Evil without destroying the World, in the creation of which he took part equally with Ormuzd and his Good.

    Modern scholars attribute Zoroastrian traits to Christianity, but historically this was not so, and it is clear that Zoroastrianism spawned such children as Manichaeism, Mithraism and all kinds of Christian Gnosticism, for example, Nicolaitanism and Marcionite.

    And initially Zoroastrianism = Mazdaism = Fire and Light-worshipers not without reason is associated with the Indo-European tribes of the Aryans, in the ancient world was the natural ally of Judaism, associating the invisible G-d of the Jews or with Ormuzd or with the Light, and Ahriman with the infamous serpent in the Garden of Eden.

    Moreover the first Messiah of the Jewish people was declared fire-worshiper, Cyrus the Great, who allowed the Jews to return from the First Exile, and the holiday of Purim is a celebration of the Union of Aryan Mazdaism, as embodied in the Book of Esther with Artaksersom Semitic and Judaism, as embodied by Esther and Mordechai, against Ahrimanism.

    But with the Christianity, the dualism of Zoroastrianism entered into an irreconcilable conflict, because for them the idea of the Incarnation, that is, the captivity of Ormuzd in the bodily shell engendered by Ahriman or seeded with seeds of Evil, is the very death of God, about which Nietzsche writes and which, according to Bannon, lead to creation of Hell on Earth – Auschwitz.

    But it happened in the 20th century and all those ideological abominations, which for 2000 years have elapsed from this antagonism, really having reached the maximum realization in the horrors of the Second World War, as well as the Revolution and the Civil War in Russia.

    But 1-2 centuries, it gave birth to Christian Gnosticism = Nicolaitism and Marcionism, and that in turn in the 3rd century gave rise to Manichaeism, from which, according to my theory of Color World Projects, grew not only Catharism, but also Catholicism and that Western religious phenomenon, which I call civilizational Christianity, grew in Europe that is, the Great Schism of 1054.

    And one of the most important and still unresolved issues in my theory of color world projects is the question of the influence of Mithraism on Christian Gnosticism and the Great Schism, which arose simultaneously with Christianity on the basis of Zoroastrianism, but was not directly related to the aforementioned antagonism of Zoroastrianism and Christianity, but was in antagonistic contradiction with pre-Christian Abrahamic monotheism.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 26, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

      In case anyone cares, Finc said: Moreover the first Messiah of the Jewish people was declared fire-worshiper, Cyrus the Great, who allowed the Jews to return from the First Exile, and the holiday of Purim is a celebration of the Union of Aryan Mazdaism, as embodied in the Book of Esther with Artaksersom Semitic and Judaism, as embodied by Esther and Mordechai, against Ahrimanism.

      In fact, Purim is a celebration of Jews slaughtering Persians. They eat pastries and pretend their eating Haman’s ears. Now I don’t know the historical veracity of any of this, or whether Haman and the Persians planned a genocide against them as they say. I do know that in the early centuries of the Common Era, a resurgent Persian Empire won a great victory against Byzantium and took possession of Palestine for a time. The Jews bought from them twenty thousand Christian captives and sacrificed them to their evil God. That’s history. Would this qualify as being part of Finc’s Black Project? Or are Jews exempt from the color revolutions, always just naturally being all Sweetness and Light?

      • DA August 26, 2017 at 4:17 pm #

        You’re right, not sure anyone cares. Finc frequently loses me altogether. He’s either extremely smart, or fading in and out of lucidity. Not sure which. Maybe both?

  45. janet August 26, 2017 at 3:07 pm #

    “…most people, us included, are at times swayed by repeated suggestion.” –elysianfield

    “We are going to build a big beautiful wall… and I know about building, believe me… and Mexico is going to pay for it!” — Donald Trump, over and over again

    Trump promises Mexico will pay for the (non-existent) wall, but wants congress to send him a budget with money for the wall. If congress does not include the money for the wall, Trump says he will veto and shut down the government.

    All of this is set to take place in 30 days. Do you think Trump means what he says? If Trump is going to have Mexico pay for the wall, why should we the taxpayers have to pay billions for the wall in the congressional budget? Will Trump really shut down the government over an unnecessary wall? (net immigration is zero; Obama stopped the flood of illegal immigrants and deported millions)

    • DA August 26, 2017 at 5:35 pm #

      Trump is obviously a lame duck at this point janet bot, but delighting in his downfall is little more than delighting in the downfall of whatever pitifully little remains of “American democracy” itself. I realize that you’re almost certainly a paid shill for whatever corporate/social special interest that buys your allegiance, but really now, why pile on? And further, how do you think this will end? Not well for the DemFemTardBots either, I can assure you. But I guess you need to discover that for yourself, eh? Good luck with that.

    • elysianfield August 26, 2017 at 8:20 pm #

      “Trump says he will veto and shut down the government.”

      Janet,
      That is not what the Trumpster said…I watched the speech, and when he said “shut down the government” and continued with another thought on building the wall…typical old-age moment coupled with verbal diarrhea. Never said anything about a veto, or coupled the two comments together. I thought the statement nonsensical, and typical of Trump…no need to add spin to the lampooning.

  46. Janos Skorenzy August 26, 2017 at 3:17 pm #

    Hillary shamelessly panders to the aberrant feminine psychology the Elite have created in Western Women:

    It was incredibly uncomfortable. He was literally breathing down my neck. My skin crawled. It was one of those moments where you wish you could hit pause and ask everyone watching, “Well, what would you do?” Do you stay calm, keep smiling and carry on as if he weren’t repeatedly invading your space? Or do you turn, look him in the eye and say loudly and clearly, “Back up, you creep. Get away from me. I know you love to intimidate women, but you can’t intimidate me, so back up.”

    Guys, Men, Bees of England, Men of the West – how many times has this happened to you? Trump wasn’t doin’ nuthin. She invaded his space in fact. Unless men invade female space, the race will die out. Thus she was in defiance of the Laws of Nature.

  47. FincaInTheMountains August 26, 2017 at 3:45 pm #

    About moral equivalence

    Since november 8 2016 seven Russian diplomats of higher level died with no clear reasons. Two of them were murdered. The probability of such coincidence is next to impossible.

    I wonder what would Putin do if Russian intelligence agency reports to him that this way somebody is trying to provoke a war ? But I am not interested in this question applied to the US, because know absolutely for sure what would happen is something like this is reported to any American president.

    • DA August 26, 2017 at 4:49 pm #

      With regard to Putin, keep your friends close, keep your enemies even closer. Same as it ever was.

    • JimInFlorida August 26, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

      If Brussels or Washington had anything to do with it, then seven ZOG-NATO billionaires must die. Also with no clear reasons.

      That’s what Putin should do. He can’t continue to play chess with a psychopath.

  48. Petro August 26, 2017 at 4:51 pm #

    What—only 185 responses to Friday’s post so far!? Most get 400, 500, 600 responses. Is it because there weren’t any right-wing dog whistles—which get blown from time to time—in it? Just a pithy look at the financial situation as The Fed meets in Wyoming. Not much there to activate the angry racist kooks and misogynists.

    • onehunglo August 26, 2017 at 6:00 pm #

      ah, petro, you level of ignorance only exceed by you lack of intellect…..

      you remain distract with subterfuge of globalist, not seeing what really occur…..

      as we speak, globalist retain physicists study best method in reduction of human population….

      present findings lead to cold fusion via directed energy weapon….

      this method allow for efficient elimination of troublesome carbon polluting humans, without worry of blast zone become uninhabitable.

      only minor amount of tritium remain, which present no risk to life.

      proof of concept successful demonstrated through design of experiment at WTC’s.

      time to wake up.
      youtube.com/watch?v=ermHx3akejc

      let not you heart be troubled.

      may God be with you.

      -onehunglo

      • pequiste August 26, 2017 at 6:32 pm #

        Pardonez moi 1hunglo, but a Neutron bomb is as clean as it gets for a nuke. Old technology too.

        Bet you there are a few of those party favors just laying around some quiet W.S.As. (weapon storage areas) for the correct operational moment.

        • onehunglo August 26, 2017 at 9:04 pm #

          ah , pequiste, you very wise indeed!

          plenty of neutron bombs available for use;

          however, they remain quite messy alternative to cold fusion directed energy weapon…..

          result of WTC experiment living proof DEW may strategic target specific zone with 100% kill rate efficacy, while surrounding area remain intact.

          additional advantage is phenomena of “dustification”, whereby molecular conversion of solid material to dust make clean up fast and easy….

          in addition, “dustification” zone relatively inert, making prompt removal of dust and debris high efficient.

          globalist prefer this DEW method over neutron and hot fission, and adjuvents in mandatory vaccine take too long to effect kill…..

          that ok.

          let not you heart be troubled.

          may God be with you.

          -onehunglo

  49. michael August 26, 2017 at 6:12 pm #

    The disconnect between value and price is already here.
    Value is somewhat subjective and people cannot determine what something is worth to them if they are driven by psychological forces
    originating from manipulation and propaganda.

    However there should be at least a reasonable correlation between
    cost of production and sales and price.

    Even that seems to disappear periodically. I have ordered nicely produced hard cover books from amazon for 3.95 (free shipping),
    bought hardware in discount stores for one third the price of the german home depot equivalent etc.

    In the stock market that disconnect is constant. The only rational value of stock is the discounted dividend stream. But many stocks pay no dividend and hence are bought and sold on the greater fool principle.

    My favorite example is the stock price of Ericsson (ticker:ERIC).
    It has better years and worse ones but overall has been a very sold company all along even paying a dividend. You really want to look at the stock price in a max chart. For some reason in the year 2000 the market thought that is was worth at least 15 times what it thinks it is worth now (see market-cap chart at
    macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/ERIC/market-cap/ericsson-lm-adr-market-cap-history).

    What this means is that this degree of irrationality provides opportunity for you. Buy stuff when it is cheap, not when you need it.

    • DA August 26, 2017 at 6:24 pm #

      Better still, don’t buy at all. There are no “opportunities” in irrationality, only risks. “Rational” people call the stock market what it actually is: A CASINO. And RATIONAL people DON’T GAMBLE!

      • michael August 27, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

        I was thinking about hardware not stocks.

  50. DA August 26, 2017 at 7:08 pm #

    An ode to “flyover land”:

    youtube.com/watch?v=0a36KVuo5gg

  51. janet August 26, 2017 at 8:49 pm #

    Russia supports Taiban. China supports Pakistan. North Korea ignores Trump’s threats. Trump the president flip flops from what Trump the candidate said.

    In his Afghanistan speech, Trump reversed course, saying he’d send more troops. He also threatened Pakistan.

    Before Pakistan had responded, China came to Pakistan’s defense, saying the world needed to do more to recognize that country’s fight against terrorism. Pakistan doubled down on the Chinese comments and refuted Trump’s claims.

    Does Trump think he is going to “win” against Russia and China?

  52. janet August 26, 2017 at 8:59 pm #

    Elysianfield, here is what Trump said, verbatim:

    “Believe me, if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall.”

    Trump said that at the campaign rally in Phoenix, where the crowd responded: “Build that wall. Build that wall. Build that wall.”

    The Republican-controlled Congress has yet to pass a spending resolution to keep the government fully operational past Sept. 30.

    Trump makes head fakes to blame the Democrats, but the fact is Republicans control both the house and the senate and the white house. If he vetos the budget, because it doesn’t have money for the wall, it is on Trump, not the Democrats.

    • onehunglo August 26, 2017 at 9:18 pm #

      janet, you ignorant slut!

      you continue to take bait…..there is no difference in you political parties…all beholden to globalists!

      that ok.

      let not you heart be troubled.

      may God be with you.

      -onehunglo.

      • janet August 26, 2017 at 9:58 pm #

        “janet, you ignorant slut” –nohung

        Nohung, you fake as three dollar bill… parties not globalist, you toxic globalist.

        that ok.
        let not you heart be troubled.
        God no exist.

        Janet Fantifa

  53. MrTibbs August 26, 2017 at 11:26 pm #

    infowars.com/video-joe-arpaio-appears-on-hannity-after-trump-pardon/

    The Trump pardon of Sheriff Joe Arpaio has now greenlighted the proper pursuit process under the Constitution into the corruption belying the Obama Department of Justice.

    Constitutionalists v. Antifa. v. Alt-Left. v. Alt-Right. v. Deep State. v. Career Politicians. x Career Lobbyists. x Globalist Mainstream Media. x Career Unelected Deep State Bureaucrats. x Hollywood Elites. x Unprosecuted Corruption. x Globalist Banking Cartels. x Globalist Technocrats.

    -T
    They Call Me Mr. Tibbs.
    youtube.com/watch?v=r0hytuh6GIk
    ……..and those who honor the sworn oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic outnumber those who have no honor.

    • JimInFlorida August 27, 2017 at 2:55 pm #

      Sheriff Joe is like unto General Anthony McAuliffe. As General McAuliffe held on to Bastogne despite the German siege, Sheriff Arpaio protected Maricopa County from the siege of brown hordes and Kosher quislings.

      President TRUMP was Sheriff Joe’s, “General Patton,” who smashed through the legions of SJW’s and liberated the embattled Joe.

      Let us go on from victory to victory. Trump is a flawed leader but, he was the ONLY MAN who took up the cause of the moribund Silent Majority in 2016. He alone gave them a voice. They who’ve had no representation since Nixon.

      Trump should offer Joe Arpaio the Assistant Attorney General’s job at the Dept. of Justice.

      • onehunglo August 27, 2017 at 6:19 pm #

        ah, jim, you very wise one indeed!!!

        now, behold as embedded Deep State within you department of justice roll over faster than bill clinton at prospect of sharing bed with hillary….

        behold as new emboldened sheriff’s nationwide clamp down on unlawful acts committed by antifa….

        a brave new world.

        let not you heart be troubled.

        may God be with you.

        -onehunglo

  54. trypillian August 26, 2017 at 11:43 pm #

    A moniker for the pseudo ritual gathering of the high priests of monopoly money ought to have been ‘ The A…holes are meeting in Jackson Hole ‘. The should have held their pretense in Death Valley, a true allegory for the fate of the Empire.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 27, 2017 at 2:22 pm #

      And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.

      Aeschylus

  55. Pucker August 26, 2017 at 11:49 pm #

    The nascent industrialists of the North realized quickly that the loose association of states envisioned by the Founding Fathers which favored a plantation economy was incompatible with profit and the pursuit of ever more profitable Empire. The Railroads used the hammer, Lincoln, to smash the South, impose high tariffs, and seize Southern land, resources, labor, and markets. Empire (the “Union”) created. The North strikes a bargain with the Southern landed gentry: Acquiescence to Union and end of Northern terror and pacification (General Sherman) in exchange for informal KKK rule in the South and share cropping. President Grant, General Sherman, General Sheridan, and General Custer move on to exterminate the Native Americans.

    • Pucker August 27, 2017 at 10:34 am #

      I left out the part about how “Honest Abe” walked 3 miles to return the 6 cents that the Little Old Lady overpaid.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 27, 2017 at 2:18 pm #

        He also walked back a ways to right a beetle who was stuck on its back. He denied any virtue in this, saying that he did it to make himself feel better. Truly the great Self or Atman includes both the reprobate Lincoln and the humble beetle. Surely you and I are not less than the Beetle or Sparrow? Only the Southerners are….

  56. Pucker August 27, 2017 at 1:20 am #

    “It seemed like a good idea at the time.”

    “Neuralink Corp., the startup co-founded by billionaire Elon Musk, has taken steps to sell as much as $100 million in stock to fund the development of technology that connects human brains with computers.

    The San Francisco-based company has already gotten $27 million in funding, according to a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Musk said via Twitter on Friday that Neuralink isn’t seeking outside investors. A spokesman didn’t respond to questions about the source of the funds.”

    • Pucker August 27, 2017 at 1:29 am #

      Is Dmitry Orlov further developing his theory of The Technosphere? What’s Ted Kazinski up to these days?

      • janet August 27, 2017 at 8:50 am #

        Robert Mueller is about to bust open the Trump-Russia collusion case and it is too late for plea bargaining.

        • Pucker August 27, 2017 at 9:26 am #

          In the ancient Persian Zoroastrian Cult of Mithra, the image of corn emanating from the anus is a symbol of abundance and fertility.

          • elysianfield August 27, 2017 at 11:40 am #

            “…the image of corn emanating from the anus is a symbol of abundance and fertility.”

            Puck,
            It is also indicative that corn is in season….

          • Janos Skorenzy August 27, 2017 at 2:12 pm #

            Ancient Persian saying, Never trust one who never laughs or never stops laughing.

            When I am Satrap, I will summon you, O Puck. Pray that I do not find thee the latter.

        • onehunglo August 27, 2017 at 2:38 pm #

          only thing to be “bust open” is you antifa loyalist head….

          we know where you live and you loyalty not to Constitutional Republic, but rather to the elimination thereof.

          clock is now ticking on you demise.

          -onehunglo

  57. FincaInTheMountains August 27, 2017 at 10:22 am #

    Brilliant! Marius Petipa is put to Shame!

    The ballet “Lenin and the Log”:

    youtube.com/watch?v=9CilKwLA_t8

    In the late Soviet Union, the most anti-Soviet anecdotes caused hysterical laughter, but it was absolutely impossible to imprison for them. For example:

    Lenin comes home after work, and he is met by his wife Krupskaya:
    – Vladimir Ilyich, the walkers came, they brought you a canary.

    Lenin comes to the cage with a canary, opens the door and says:
    -Fly canary, you are free!

    And the canary does not fly away – during this little time she managed to fall in love with Lenin…

  58. Janos Skorenzy August 27, 2017 at 2:15 pm #

    Thou dost root out the ego in those who meditate on Thee in the Heart, O Arunchala!

    Ramana Maharishi

  59. FincaInTheMountains August 27, 2017 at 4:12 pm #

    see you’re back on your meds today Finca. == DA

    Philosophical Foundations of Orthodoxy

    Catholicism at the time of its inception, that is, at the time of the Great Schism that occurred in 1054, was a kind of dualistic anti-Christianity that declared true Christianity, that is, Orthodoxy, a heresy.

    In particular, 4 years before the Great Schism John Scotus Eriugena – translator into Latin Maximus the Confessor, and Dionysius the Areopagite, was declared a heretic and not by chance 5 years after the Fourth Crusade, when the anti-Christian, I would even say Gnostic-Satanic essence of Catholicism revealed to the full extent, the books of John Scotus Eriugena were burned and in 1684 few months before the birthday of “Calculus” of Leibniz and Newton, his works were included in the list of forbidden books.

    But the peak of Catholic anti-Christianity was the color revolution that began in 1261 in the Golden Horde, which was supposed to finish the Fourth Crusade, destroying the Orthodoxy that flourished in the Golden Horde. Thank God, this color revolution was defeated in 1380 during the Battle of Kulikovo, and after that the anti-Christianity of Catholicism went into decline, as Pope Urban VI, which had started it, brought the Catholic Church to Western Schism, once again confirming one of the main provisions of Orthodox philosophy, namely, that evil is a destructive force and it is impossible to create something on this basis.

    Disputes about metaphysical realism flared up in Western Europe at the end of the 13th century, when the Russian princedoms were just beginning to recover from the Tatar-Mongol invasion and the first Moscow prince Danila Alexandrovich, having built the first church of the Moscow Kremlin, laid Danilov Monastery and sent his son Ivan Kalita – the future collector of Russian lands – to Novgorod.

    And in Western Europe, in disputes over universals, Christian theology began to return to the Western Church, where it was destroyed by anti-Christian power in the previous century, and this was reflected in the tales of the Grimm brothers telling of the Satanic Kings and Witches ruling in a Christian country.

    The history of the destruction of the Irish Orthodoxy and the Christian civilization of the Vikings in Western Europe is still waiting for its researcher, but it is already clear that the fight against the Albigenses / Cathari played an important role, and Duns Scotus substantiated the Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary St. Anne, who later became a dogma of the Roman Catholic Church , arguments for which the so-called heretics of the Castle of Monforte were burned alive 20 years before the Great Schism.

    And unlike all the other heretics who were burned alive 20 years before the Great Split, the protocols of interrogations of heretics of the Castle of Monforte survived and bear witness that the unfortunate ones were associated with the followers of Simeon the New Theologian in Byzantium and were specifically condemned to death for asserting that the head The Christian Church is Jesus Christ, and not the Pope.

    The anti-Christian pogrom in Western Europe was horrendous, and books burned with people at the stake. It is unconvincing that three hundred years after these events, one of the main sources of information about Christian theology for Thomas Aquinas became the “Guide of the Confused” – the work of a Jewish philosopher named Moshe ben Maimon, also known as Maimonides and Rambam. Arriving in the Middle East from Muslim Spain, he became the personal doctor of the vizier Saladin, who expelled the Crusaders from Jerusalem, but without knowing himself, was a follower of the Orthodox Saints Maximus the Confessor and Dionysius the Areopagite, drawing the apophatic method they created in the famous work of the medieval Muslim philosopher Al-Ghazali “Restoration of the sciences of faith”.

    Thus, the Orthodox apophatic method became the basis of religious philosophy in the West and ecumenism there objectively contributed to the restoration of Christian traditions and this must be taken into account in the dialogue with Catholics and Protestants of Anglican tradition, inevitable in the conditions of a world war with a Black Project.

    But its application for the formulation of the philosophical foundations of Orthodoxy requires the compilation of a list of contra-indications to the Orthodoxy of Western religious philosophy, and in this connection it should be noted that the theory of free will became the basis for classifying religions in the West. According to this classification, Islam and Christianity stem from Judaism, not only and not so much because both of these religions have historically withdrawn from Judaism, but also because they share the main principle of Abrahamic monotheism – the unity of God and his uniqueness as a creative beginning, and the creation of the world Ex Nihilo (out of nothing) within the framework of the political history of the arts makes it possible to correctly understand such an important statement of Western religious philosophy that the Lord God, who works out of nothing, is a Great Artist in contrast to the Great Architect who creates from the finished material – the God’s Creation.

    And the most important contraindication to the Orthodoxy of Western religious philosophy is the subdivision of all things into Spirit and Matter, in contrast to Orthodoxy, which divides the world into the created and uncreated, and the boundary between Spirit and Matter is blurred and not fundamental.

    Zoroastrianism in general regards the World of Spirit as light and good, while the Matter is dark and evil, and the term “incarnation” in dualism bears very strong negative connotations. The latter becomes especially important if one recalls that Buddhism was declared Nazi as the state religion of Nazi Germany, but in fact it is more a philosophy than a religion, and historically this philosophy is genetically related to Zoroastrianism and with such non-Abrahamic monotheism as Hinduism.

    And all this is not abstract speculation, the main reason and prize of the Fourth World War is the right to be called the winner of Nazi Germany. Churchill declared war on the Nazis the Christian war in 1941, and Steve Bannon officially declared Nazi Germany an attempt to build Hell on Earth. He even compared the struggle that Trump is now waging with the Battle of Stalingrad, and after leaving his post he completely transferred this city to the United States.

    • JimInFlorida August 27, 2017 at 5:46 pm #

      All of the above is why I’ve abandoned Christianity (and rejected its Abrahamic cousins) and taken up the study of ancient Vedic India. Books like the Bhagavad Gita, Upanishads, Uddhava Gita, and Srimad Bhagavatam, offer clear, coordinated, and perfectly structured discourses on everything that’s worth knowing.

      Even though ancient India had the true knowledge of Heaven and the gods, it still fell into darkness at the onset of Kali Yuga. But, the Sun shines on all and is not implicated in the success or failure of what it illuminates. Vedic knowledge is Truth; regardless of whether man can abide by it or not.

      In Colonial times, Christianity was a fantastic trellis to grow White American civilization upon. But, America hasn’t seen true Christianity in over a century; maybe two. That vile modernist chimera, Jewdeo-Xtianity, currently rules the land and the trail of destruction is obvious. Orthodox Christianity is the best of the breed but, can’t work in the decadent West.

      As for what Steve Bannon says about National Socialist Germany, he’s just regurgitating the approved shibboleths against it.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 27, 2017 at 6:25 pm #

        Yes it is with relief that one journeys to the East. For to stay means to face the Question, the Damnable Question. And when Jews start to praise Christianity as above, one knows that is very late in the day, with the Sun low in the sky, the shadows lengthening in the streets, and shapeless monsters stirring in the shadows.

      • JimInFlorida August 27, 2017 at 9:25 pm #

        I forgot to add that Steve Bannon may pay lip service to TPTB but, he knows better….(I hope)….

      • messianicdruid August 27, 2017 at 11:12 pm #

        “That vile modernist chimera, Jewdeo-Xtianity, currently rules the land and the trail of destruction is obvious.”

        The basis of the Protestant version of churchianity is Darbyism, which has transmogrified into millennialism – post – pre and amillennialism, in which all resurrection teaching is attributed to one event. This is accomplished through misidentification of the players involved.

        Another descriptive term used is futurism – the idea that most prophecy is still to be encountered and sitting on one’s hands is a proper occupation of the faithful. Easy believism; whatever keeps the pews and the offering plates full.

        The other main function is the honoring of the Creator God’s blasphemers since they claim to be believers. Respect of persons is encouraged by pointing to the Prodigal Son’s supposed obesience to his Elder Brother.

  60. Janos Skorenzy August 27, 2017 at 6:31 pm #

    To The States

    To the States or any one of them or any city of the States, Resist much, obey little.

    Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved,
    Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city of this earth, ever afterwood resumes its liberty.

    Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass

  61. elysianfield August 27, 2017 at 6:42 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs…

    Daniel Bourden, the fucking murdering racist son of a bitch who was involved in the vehicular death of the white woman in Charlottesville, has finally been charged with a crime…malicious wounding. Malicious…….Wounding……

    Wolfie and others, step up to the plate…where are the cries for justice? Even Trump called him a murderer. Damn the evidence!

    On another note…Sheriff Arpaio, was cited from the bench for criminal contempt, arrested , and sentenced to Jail. Trump pardoned him. The system works, all protocol properly followed…still a nation of laws.

    • elysianfield August 27, 2017 at 6:51 pm #

      CORRECTION!

      Daniel Bourden, the fucking murdering racist son of a bitch…should have read;

      Daniel Borden, the fucking murdering racist son of a bitch white supremacist Nazi…

      I apologize for any omissions in the earlier post….

  62. BackRowHeckler August 27, 2017 at 7:46 pm #

    Have any of you noticed the Hammer & Sickle banner proudly waving at Antifa rallies?

    … years later a secret report ordered by Nikita Khrushchev revealed that between 1936 and 1941, the NKVD arrested 19 million citizens. 7 million of those arrested were shot straight away. An unknown proportion of the rest perished later, by the many ways there were to die in the concentration camps of the Gulag.

    –The Forsaken
    Tim Tzouliadis

    Keep the red flag flying, Comrades!

    brh

    • MrTibbs August 27, 2017 at 9:26 pm #

      LOL.

      Those comprising Antifa and friends are those without the knowledge, skills, and ability to live life in Liberty.

      …..and when they organize to disrupt the Liberty of others, uncontrolled blood will flow.

      They Call Me Mr. Tibbs.
      youtube.com/watch?v=r0hytuh6GIk&t=4s

    • JimInFlorida August 27, 2017 at 9:46 pm #

      Just a little searching easily reveals the Synagogue of Satan set into the foundation of the NKVD, which evolved from the CHEKA.

      Genrikh Grigoryevich Yagoda
      Vyacheslav Menzhinsky
      Felix Dzerzhinsky

      These psychopaths were three of the biggest names in the CHEKA – NKVD. What was the common thread between them???

      Janos? elysianfield? DA? Care to guess?

  63. FincaInTheMountains August 28, 2017 at 8:25 am #

    All of the above is why I’ve abandoned Christianity (and rejected its Abrahamic cousins) == JIF

    The Greeks on Mount Athos are betting on Trump and believe that the US is a new Katechon

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Athos

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katechon

  64. wm5135 August 28, 2017 at 9:26 am #

    michael – “However we do live in a physical universe. God wills it so. It has existed for 15 billion years and will continue to exist for untold billions of years more and the same is true for the gold which is produced in stellar explosions.”

    Perhaps the waveform did not collapse into exactly that form, but I bet you would get a consensus here.

    Born in Zion

  65. DA September 20, 2017 at 6:30 am #

    Poor Hillary. Reduced to making the rounds of the talk shows hawking her trashy vanity screeds, yapping like a toy poodle about “the one that got away.” That evil man in Russia stole it! I’ll bet she has feverish dreams every night of Vlad giving her a good hard buggering now that Bill’s a walking corpse. Could she represent the high water mark for radical feminism? Let’s hope so. Sad. So sad.

    foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/20/clinton-slams-trump-putin-during-interview-with-stephen-colbert.html

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