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My website was down early this morning, and I’m just a little suspicious that it had something to do with me expressing an opinion outside the “Overton Window” of what is considered acceptable discourse on illegal immigration. Namely, that it’s illegal, with all that implies. At least I wasn’t thrown out of a restaurant over the weekend, though the fact is I didn’t even try to eat out.
Now my particular problem may turn out to be no more than a cockroach chewing through some wires in the Jersey server farm where this blog dwells — we’ll find out soon enough — but there are obviously other signs that “the Resistance” is tuning up the antagonism against its perceived enemies.
I’m in the peculiar position of not being a partisan of President Trump, and yet being a publicly avowed enemy — if there’s any doubt — of the Resistance, especially these days its institutional branch known as the Democratic Party. What a ragtag and bobtail of mendacious cowards it has become.
The truth, I believe, is that the party wants to bring as many Mexicans and Central Americans as possible across the border, by any means necessary, to fortify its future voter base. And so they are acting to insure that it happens. Of course, this might also be viewed as a suicidal course of action for the party, since it puts them in opposition to the rule-of-law as a general principle, which is a pretty sketchy basis for any claim to govern. That being the case, the outcome for the Democratic Party may be its own demise as a legitimate political bloc. It’s one thing to ignore the economically foundering, traditional working-class constituency of actual US citizens who are having a tougher time every year making a living; it’s another thing to bring in a several-millionfold population of non-citizens to replace them.
Anyway, it’s a pretty poor strategy for success in the coming mid-term election. The effort got a boost over the weekend from Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D-Cal) who called for Trump administration employees to be thrown out of department stores and other retail establishments as well as restaurants. Why stop there? Why not enslave Trump employees and supporters? Force them to work without pay in the Chick-Fil-A regional distribution warehouses? One wonders what House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi thinks of Ms. Waters’ proposal. Other Democratic party leaders zipped their pie-holes about it.
It may also be the case that the majority Republicans in congress are cowed and anxious about doing anything legislatively to clarify the disheveled US immigration laws. If that’s true, they might pause to consider that their own party is not so far from whirling around the drain, too, from a consistent demonstrated lack of principle — as well as its uncomfortable association with the maverick president who only nominally leads the party.
The trouble is that the entities waiting to replace both the useless, careless, feckless Democrats and Republicans are chaos and violence, not reconstituted parties with coherent political programs. The US, and really all the so-called advanced nations on earth, are heading into an era of scarcity and austerity that is likely to present as mortal conflict.
Bill Maher could easily get his wish of an economic crisis before many more months go by. The financial markets have never been under so much lethal stress. Everybody and every institution is drowning in debt that can’t possibly be repaid. The supposed remedies for that — like, inflating the debt away with official monetary policy — would be ruinous for the 99 percenters already struggling to lead normal lives. And the looming novelty of a cashless society would be even worse in terms of personal liberty.
Ah! We somehow miraculously got the website back up-and-running to post at the usual time today. Last week, I was awash in censure and obloquy for dissing the Resistance stand on illegal immigration, the alleged “torture” of children separated from their parents (or plain parentless) at the US / Mexican border. Much of the published opprobrium against Trump and the federal authorities under him proved to be quite false — such as the weeping child on the cover of Time Magazine, who was, in fact, not separated from her mother (a previous deportee who abandoned her husband and several other children in Honduras). As far as I know, Time Magazine has not offered an explanation or an apology for this attempt to misrepresent reality to an already confused American public.
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Everything has a life cycle and western civilization has had a good run. A new dark age ahead, especially if Maxine Waters is the face of the future. Of course she is the best republican campaigner in the country
Even paranoid folk have real enemies
Keep writing – fearful as your essays are starting to sound to me
Novel ideas and spot on perceptions.
Thank you
The Democrats are the most corrupt, morally bankrupt, soul-less and evil party in the USA. The Republicans aren’t really that much better (sometimes I wonder if there is in fact any significant differences between them). Currently with this immigration issue–which shouldn’t even be an issue– we’ve got the Dems and a certain sector of corporate America pushing hard for “open borders” due to their own special interests and agendas, yet, with no concern for the good of this country, its future and the well-being of “we the people”. Shameful and disgusting. We could also jettison Congress into the ocean and be no worse off as a country for it. Sad state of affairs we live in.
I’m getting a sense of why JHK seems to be so anti-Democrat, especially when he complains he is a registered D. It’s that the Democrats have lost faith in the beliefs of their ancestors, that they do not believe putting forward a case for, say, Medicare for All instead of Welfare for Medical Insurers will work. Maybe JHK is depressed that this kind of straightforward deal either couldn’t get passed or won’t be accepted. But Democratic Party lying seems to say that there’s no way they can advance their program on its merits. That’s depressing.
Let people who want healthcare pay a fee to be part of Medicare, which accepts anyone at age 65 regardless of pre-existing condition. Maybe set the fee high enough to turn a small profit for the program. What was so hard about proposing that?
“What was so hard about proposing that?”
Nothing.
The whole axis of debate has however shifted. The Dems are not that kind of party anymore (& haven’t really been that party for several decades).
Trump has forced them out into the open to defend their real agenda.
The Democrats have largely abandoned traditional economic issues of the left, in favor of a general hostility toward the rule of law, and an eagerness to embrace anyone willing to bankroll that agenda, whether it be George Soros or the Koch Brothers.
I see no reason to impute coherent strategic thinking to the Democrat Party by suggesting their open borders advocacy has anything to do with a long term goal of broadening their voter base.
Rather, I would suggest that it’s all part of the largely schizoid political processes going on and that the noisy chorus of “human rights activists” is driven by an assortment of sentimental notions about “doing good”, which for the left means it’s more important to appear to be doing good than actually doing good. To an extent this is seen on both the right and the left with the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the need to “protect” those “oppressed” by a “brutal dictator” like Assad, never mind if his disappearance would unleash far worse on the Syrian people. The act itself of getting rid of the “Brutal Dictator” is a feel good moment for these people and so would be the case if border checkpoints were abandoned and the hordes rushed in. They’d still get to enjoy their feel good moment and when things went pear shaped after..Well they’d blame it all on someone else; it’d never be their fault….because…virtue.
Yes erik, and the collective amnesia is breathtaking. During the 2003 Iraq invasion seasoned American diplomats were looking at each other sideways and shaking their heads: ‘Did Vietnam teach us nothing?’
Apparently not. A curse of accelerated amnesia means that everyone – even those ‘in power’ (= ability to destroy the world) means that improvisation is the mode du jour for those in power. Prez ManBaby is a shining example of this haphazard, birdbrained style of governance.
a/ Never look backward – b/ willfully ignore consequences. Just play it by ear until you can’t.
You nailed it precisely, Erik. We can see the regime change these Globalists achieved in Libya, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. Out with the dictator, in with the outlaw gangs and chaos. Added benefit – streams of refugees Soros can foist upon Europe and North America. Societal destabilization, moral and social degeneracy, identity politics, pitting groups against each other – all this is part of the Globalist Agenda embraced by nearly all the Democratic and half the Republican leadership.
It won’t be easy to take back the country from these deep state Globalists who have tunneled like termites into the framework of government. They delude themselves and anyone who still believes the MSM that they hold the moral high ground. Nothing could be more absurd. Every day they reveal themselves as terrified, shrieking demoniacs who see their doom, i.e. full exposure closing in.
Tom, I really don’t think what Kunstler is unhappy about is that Bernie Sanders’ economic policies have been abandoned by the left.
My strong impression of his view on such issues is that the entire political spectrum from Ted Cruz to Bernie Sanders advocate delusional policies on such matters, because they fail to reflect the grim realities we face such as peak oil and spiraling national debt.
See? I refer you to my verdict of NATIONAL AMNESIA as outlined in the mini-rant above.
The defense rests, Yerronner.
Parenthetically, I was intrigued to read about the conspicuous absence of enthusiasm among average Germans when it was announced in 1939 that the Wehrmacht had moved into Poland, and the UK had declared war.
They well remembered the catastrophe of 20 years earlier. Even among the high command there was a distinct reluctance to commence hostilities.
When it was clear that Dolphy got away with it he was widely declared ‘The greatest warlord of all time’. Within two years the Vaterland was being showered with bombs, and U-boats were being sunk at a merry rate.
Dubya, on the other hand, declared ‘We could have won in Vietnam’ without going into the specifics of what ‘winning’ would have entailed. I just spent six weeks in the close company of a guy whose late father was a VC, and got quite an insight into the character of that people. General WestMoreLand and his noble crusaders were not so concerned with such matters.
At the time it was only lone prophets like Gore Vidal who referred to the USA as an ‘Empire’ (although Henry Luce had already declared it ‘the American Century’). They really and truly thought they were fighting the good fight. I was an Assistant Professor of Linguistics at Fresno State College for the Criminally Inane, where students in cowboy boots and stetsons showed up to ridicule the antiwar movement and declare their patriotism.
Fast Forward to now. While the illusion persists, it is shimmering and shuddering, showing transparent motives and despicable objectives.
He’s not a registered Democrat anymore.
You know that how?
I believe he said as much a few weeks ago.
“Healthcare” is not insurable Doc, and there will never be a system here in the greed capitol of the world that will function for all. The working and low wage slobs can certainly be taxed to pay the medical needs of the wealthy rulers, but that is all. When you have an understanding of mathematics and you look at “insurance” it becomes apparent that life, real estate, travel, even automobiles can be insured and made affordable for the masses. Everyone pays, and there are not a lot of claims percentage wise. Medical treatments or “health” can never be insured because of a number of reasons. First of all, there is an army of exorbitantly paid executives, lawyers and providers between the patient and the premiums and these must all be paid for at higher levels then the premiums alone can support. Secondly, everyone, I mean everyone, makes claims on this insurance and they file them every damned day. And toward the end of their lives, the insured spend gazillions on that last second of life. Far more than the system can every collect in premiums. Government subsidies which are also pumped in by the ton, only place additional burdens on the working slobs and the systems of debt, both public and private. Eliminating insurance and allowing the market to set the prices might have a positive effect but it will never happen, even though there was a day when a doctor would save your life for the price of a chicken. Its over, sorry.
Forgot to mention that with “politicians” (using this term very loosely) such as Waters, Pelosi, Schumer, McCain, Ryan, McConnel the time has come where the inmates have indeed taken over the institution. How people like this can ever get into office blows my mind. Technically we truly have no sane or competent leadership, no sane of competent representation.
Our media is a pathetic joke.
We’re on a runaway train boys and girls. Incredible.
Recall the classic comment of Democrat Jesse Marvin Unruh, of CA: “if you cannot eat their food, drink their booze, screw their women and then get up in the morning and be prepared to vote against them, son, you don’t belong in politics.”
We haven’t had real politicians in a while. As Joe Sobran once wrote, in DC an honest politician is one who, once bought, STAYS bought. We have nothing but honest politicians in DC now.
On the other hand, Dr. Tom…
A Japanese businessman, drinking at a bar in Jakarta: “The difference between an American politician and an Indonesian politician is that the Indonesian one stays bought.”
And yet, somebody continues to elect these shysters. At least Mccain will soon be dead and Ryan will be on to his next private sector windfall gig. But there’ll be more just like them soon enough.
They rise like mushrooms in a rich pile of manure cultivated by Soros, Kochs, etc.
” At least McCain will soon be dead”
Nick O Demus,
Say “Hi” for me when you see him….
I’ve got a very special place prepared for his rotten soul!
“We’re on a runaway train boys and girls. Incredible.”
One sure sign that the train is about to go over the cliff, is the respect for law that is shown. Apropos to that is the warning from the CA DOJ that owners of specific semi-auto rifles have less than a week left to register them with the state. Let’s see if their compliance rate is any better than the single digit rate of compliance with registration schemes in NY and CT.
When the representative to the United States Congress from California’s 43rd district, Maxine Waters, is harassed, harangued and otherwise told to leave any commercial establishment because of her increasingly bizarre political ideation, rhetoric, and actions, you can bet the farm she will play the race card.
What she really needs is a pie in the face — what an ass-clown. Or perhaps it is just plain senility? Whatever the diagnosis, she is truly a representative of what is wrong with the career politicians and the current system of government in this country.
White politicians are terrible. Black politicians are worse because of the IQ deficit.
I wonder if our esteemed JHK will write about XXXtension??
The cRapper who had the clip where he hung a white child [implied]
and had a big $$$ contract.
He was killed.
The huge outpouring of grief from fans [fools] is what I find alarming.
Wikipedia says he was born & raised in Plantation, FL.
Figures.
Queerty headlined this something like ‘Homophobic Rapper Killed’.
Also celebrated for having knocked around a pregnant woman.
Outpouring of grief indeed.
Rappers get wrapped (rapt).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_murdered_hip_hop_musicians
I agree with Maher and with the latest editorial by George Will. A severe and frightening economic crisis will serve as ‘slap therapy’ and bring people to their senses about having an ignorant goof run the Country. Meanwhile, (if the crisis doesn’t hit first), quarantine Trump with a huge Repub election loss in November.
A debilitating illness would help, but the Dense Pence might even be worse.
Do US citizens understand just how little credibilty and regard the World now has for USA? It’s getting worse by the day.
Coming to a head: Today, the US is instructing NK what it has to do and when it needs to be done towards de-nuking. (ha ha). Harley Davidson just announced it was pulling some production out of the USA and relocating it to Europe.
I watched some low-lights of the Minnesota Trump rally ther other day. The orange goof stood up and actually talked about how smart he was, how nice his apartment was, how great he was, how rich…. I am still curious about the tax returns and russian money laundering loans and RE purchases. It just gets worse and worse as the Country circles the drain in all ways.
Wrong to toss Press Secretery Sanders out of the restaurant. Wrong. Most restaurant staff would have just spit in her food and rubbed the untensils around their privates and then inquired, “Is there anything else you need? Enjoy your meal”.
Dow down 320 and counting!!!!!!!
Be careful what you wish for. A “severe and frightening” economic crisis might end up like Montreal during the 1969 police strike.
You will find out very quickly how thin is that veneer of civilization — even in a place as civilized as Canada.
Regarding the comments on what most restaurant staff would have done: do they reveal more about the author than the author intended? Is there such a thing as justifiable sociopathy? If so, enjoy your meal.
Even in a place as civilized as Canada was.
Fixed that. The left and its pets are in control.
Shows like ‘Lil Mosque on the Prairie.’
What kind of fool are you to believe that the demise of the world’s financial system, which is well underway, began with Trump? Check out the trillions of dollars that Obama put on the national tab.
Going back to when? 1913?
Maher and George Will are both blithering idiots. Wonder whether they’ve done any gigs together?
You own land? Remember, it’s all stolen from the Indians. Why do you think “indiginezation” will stop at just jobs in academia? If America falls, Canada falls – and your deed is worthless. Maybe you aren’t valuing law and order enough? And the Civilization that creates it around here?
@Paulo
>>> Do US citizens understand just how little credibilty and regard the World now has for USA? It’s getting worse by the day.
IMHO, we lost what little credibilty we ever had after the torture fiasco during the initial years of the (still-ongoing) war on terror.
But you know what? I’m thrilled! So happy to not have to live up to the lofty expectations of foreign hypocrites. Pro tip: America… belongs to Americans. And we’ll muddle through without the world’s admiration. Meanwhile, “enlightened” European leaders are following Trump’s lead and initiating similar anti-illegal-immigration policies…
So I guess the point is that however the World feels about the USA—right back at ya. The feeling is mutual.
The only proof of credibility people worldwide understand and respect start under the water, moves to low earth orbit, reenters the atmosphere and lands on target.
The only countries deserving credibility and high regard are ones who control their border like Russia, China, Japan, Etc. I’m afraid its too late for parts of Europe. The Czechs and Poles may fare better, since they are trying to keep the Islamic hordes out.
Hardley-Ableson is a sterling representation of everything wrong with American industry. They make more money from their faux-‘outlaw biker’ jackets and headbands and other fashion accessories than from their 1920s-designed motorcycles.
Still have some mystical appeal for moneyed third-world dopes – this in part explains potential relocation to unlikely places like India and Brazil (noting that the Yamaha YZF-R6 also emerges from an Indian assembly line).
When a Harley owner scorns a ‘rice-grinder’ and bullies its rider about not ‘buying American’, just remind him how much of his shaky Vee-twin originates offshore: carb and front suspension from Japan, wheels are Australian, instrumentation imported as well. Best guess is that only around 60% of the motorcycle is ‘American-made’.
(Been riding since 1963 – always avoided these overweight, slow, unstable implements.)
Shutting down your voice (or any other, for that matter) by sneaky means isn’t ideal. In last weeks post, JHK referred to the Munk debate; Stephen Fry’s commentary on decency is something all sides might consider.
When that WALL is finely completed, NOTE: it spans over 500 miles now, folks, the Gulf of Mexico and our Pacific coastline will resemble the Mediterranean with the dauntless Coast Guard scooping up the rubber rafts and Boston Whalers loaded to the gunnels with our own inbound boat people.
Actually, I think the flows will be in the opposite direction after TSHTF.
I hear the Canadians are considering building a wall.
I discussed this a few minutes ago in the comments for Friday’s blog. If it’s worth saying, it’s worth repeating.
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Is there a study as to how other countries deal with people who cross their borders illegally, attempting to enter those countries? I would guess that North Korea and, say, Switzerland have very different policies.
Can we learn from other countries about immigration policy? Probably.
Is there any good reason why our media do not talk about this? None that I can think of.
Good points. But remember: we’re a “shining city on a hill” and all that rot too.
Precisely.
The prevailing attitude is that, as the greatest country in the world, we have everything to teach other countries and nothing to learn from them.
I read a while back that the Swedes had essentially an open border policy to Middle Easterners seeking asylum. The result: their version of a neo-Nazi political party became the most popular party in the country after their citizens got sick of the rise in crime and abuse of their welfare system. I seem to remember a saying about the road to hell and what it’s paved with.
Don’t forget the rape gangs.
Hi Mr. Farmer Joe, I was gonna post this response to you from last week’s blog, but I ran out of time.
In a local paper, I read this article this AM:
http://www.bemidjipioneer.com/business/agriculture/4464176-why-farm-bill-should-matter-you
I found this interesting. I totally agree with you about the agriculture monopoly, and I would think that SNAP and other programs might be another stumbling block to replacing that monopoly. Food for thought, anyway 🙂
Hey Pete,
To my mind there are plenty of good reasons to criticize the government regarding food and farming, but to my mind SNAP is not one of them. Here in Washington state SNAP recipients can take their benefits to farmers markets and use them that way. How likely are they to is maybe a different question, because food sold at farmers markets is, in my experience, not even close to competitive with WalMart. The reason for that is the farm bill. The money that is allocated to farmers through that bill is almost exclusively given to mega farms.
In college I had the opportunity to visit some of these farms. One egregious example has always stood out in my mind. It was a dairy in California. It was the stereotype of a poorly run dairy: sickly cows living knee deep in their own excrement. We had the chance too see what the owner was feeding his cows in their Total Mixed Ration, industry jargin for the things you combine to give them a nutritionally complete feed. For protein he was feeding them blood meal. I asked the guy, “Aren’t you worried about mad cow disease?” He wasn’t, and apparently neither was the government. If I remember correctly his milk was ending up in Safeway stores. God only knows where his hamburger is going, but I pray for a blessing on those who eat it.
Property taxes were the big issue I faced in my early years. I was blessed to inherit my family’s farm which is located in the same county as Seattle. People in Seattle seem to have this delusional notion that the government can do no wrong and that if you give them enough money then eventually we will live in a utopia. The citizens of that city pretty much run the county (and possibly the state). Any way, in my early years there was literally a time when I was starving myself in order to pay taxes. Partially that was due to my own inexperience, but partially it was also due to not having the money I needed to make investments in tools, livestock, and infrastructure. I still feel like this is a crime on some level. I currently have a stack of cash sitting in the bank ready to pay my October tax bill. I cant help but look at it and think, “There goes the wood splitter, front end loader and hay baler I need.”
Then there’s the regulations. I have a neighbor who sells the best raw milk. Technically, its illegal because the government has not inspected his facilities and given him their seal of approval. To get that seal would require tens of thousands of dollars of infrastructure and a mountain of red tape. Officially, his stuff is dangerous and should banned, but the guy in California isn’t. WTF!?!
So do I have a problem with SNAP? No. Do I think that the government of the United States is run by Satan and his minions? Yes. I’m entirely convinced of that.
The small quality food stores are in the way of WFs Inc…which Bezos now has.
C A Fitts had some things to say about ‘raw milk busts and going after the little guy.’
Farmer Joe, I feel for you and your situation.
May I quote from our nation’s Constitution? “He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.”.
Looks like we’re back where we started, no?
AKlein,
That’s why I believe in the 2nd Amendment.
thanks for the reply and the perspective.
We’re in a culture war, along with a few real ones. Questions of right or wrong aside, things are getting serious, and you keep sticking your head up. It’s a risky position now.
Rep. Waters, Maher, et al, need to simply keep talking ; and don’t forget Kamala Harris ! All of those people, and their comments need to be front and center for all to see and hear. I’ve often wondered how Adolph Hitler would have faired had he been on television.
“By their fruits ye shall know them.”
” A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.”
Apologies to anyone triggered by Biblical reference, but as history, it does demonstrate the age of the problems that we face as well as the fact that times change, but people don’t.
If we lose now, we probably lose it all- forever.
49 million eligible people have quit voting. Think it would motivate them if they understood that the Democrat Bolsheviks are coming for them if they regain power?
I didn’t vote for Trump, but I certainly would have had I known how close the election was.
He needs our support.
It sems as though there are several types of agents who are actively observing what’s happening & profess to lean to the right. There are those (like myself) who say, in accordance with Sun Tzu, “Our side will never be stronger. Let’s do this now.” We voted for Trump for this reason, we knew he wouldn’t disappoint in egging on the #Resistance to hysterical levels. We can see that again this morning with his dependable tweet about the Red Hen restaurant. We know he can be relied on to increase the emotional flailings of the opposition.
There is also probably the uncritical majority who believe that things can be mediated by playing nice. Although numerically the majority at the moment, this group’s numbers are in rapid decline as more & more of them are awakening to the reality of identity politics & what it means for themselves personally. There are also those — probably a fringe element — who are already in agreement with the Trump faction but they don’t believe that they are personally prepared at the moment & want to buy a little more time.
Then there are the wolves in sheeps’ clothing, who are not actually allies at all but covert opposition. They have their own selfish reasons for advising moderation. Their real agenda is postponement of hot conflict so that the Right will be weaker through the simple process of continuing immigrant inpouring & outbreeding.
But how does the deep state do a Nuremberg Rally? Then you arn’t secret any more!
Whatever that means.
If an army of trolls comes out of the closet they won’t be trolls anymore.
A pitiable example of Godwin’s law administered with performance anxiety.
Once a comparison to Hitler or his deeds is made Goodwins law says the theread must end. A pitiful excuse by you to end discussion about the existence of a troll army. Putting it out of sight and out of mind by a cheap shot. You have no shame.
So you get to take your cheap shot but I don’t get to respond? How convenient for you.
There’s no troll army. What’s happening is the tide’s going out & you’re being revealed as the naked swimmer you are.
You got the naked part right. I’m on my own. An extremely astute dog would realize that you do not have the knowledge with which to deny. Like me saying there is a wart on Putin’s Butt. There might be but I’ve never seen it so I don’t know. If you are not a member you could not deny it as you did. You would not know. Q.E.D.
How did this ridiculous conversation ever get started? Oh, yeah, something about a Nuremberg Rally.
You have no more proof of the existence of a ‘troll army’ than I do of the nonexistence of one.
Q.E.D.
They can’t eat out and it turns out if they want their skin rubbed that is something else they have to do alone.
Trump staffers can’t date in DC because everyone hates them!
This could cause a reversal of Republican priorities. They may wind up allowing a little immigration after all. Just not from shit-hole countries. Normally I’m apposed to immigration unless an immigrant can carry in 10 acres of arable land for each family member but we do have a problem with pissed off involuntarily celibate young men in America going on murderous rampages because they can’t get laid.
So despite my objection to all immigration on resource depletion grounds, some immigration of a few fair haired well endowed young women with thick east European accents is a good idea or bad bad mojo is headed our way. Wars pestilence and all that stuff. Testosterone poisoning will soon cause mayhem if we don’t take preventive action now! But there is hope. If they can get what their boss has had they won’t want more.
Trump staffers can’t date in DC because everyone hates them!
Good. That will keep them focused on the job at hand.
Their hands may be busy, but not with their jobs is my point. Fact is they will have a hard time focusing on any tasks if they are getting no love.
Maybe I need to rethink this? If they don’t get laid will they be more or less effective at screwing America? They would like to have us all bend over so they can give us the shaft. They will be screwing someone for sure. Us or them? If they are busy surfing porn with the doors of offices closed that might be a good thing for us. Less time for them to screw us while they think of nothing else.
The frightening / discouraging aspect is that many of these energetic [horny] young folk may actually talk themselves into believing they are Doing Good for the Country (while getting their own sweet deal). That seems to be a common miasma along the DC beltway.
Just like the skilled young devils recruited by the PRC to police the internet and mete out punishment to those not in accord with official policy (not to mention suppressing unapproved websites). Chinese netizens call them ‘shit youth’.
You may have a point. This is not a simple blond or brunet issue.
Numberless leftist dogs will see their bitch dreams go poof!
Sure you really want that Scratch?? Perhaps things would go better if they were distracted all the time on Tinder.
Even though he’s basically right on the immigration issue, Trump is advocating ripping our legal system apart. Some weekend crazytweets:
“We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country. When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back from where they came.”
“Democrats, fix the laws. Don’t RESIST.”
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Trump can legitimately declare a Martial law on the grounds that the country is being invaded and deal with invaders as enemy combatants.
And it is an invasion.
MEXICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE CALLS FOR MASS MIGRATION TO US
http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/22/mexican-candidate-immigration-speech/
It looks like Obrador is going to win. Mexican-America War 2.0?
Are we surprised? Mexico is out of control and the whole Latin America area is overpopulated. The only wonder is why there are people in the US that want to throw the gates open and absorb their problems. As JHK continues to remind us, the West is teetering on economic collapse due to its own debt problems. So what do we do, bring on more debt with immigration. The endgames loom.
I do not blame Mexico for trying to offload its problems north. Protecting ourselves from the onslaught will require more militant options than just a wall. Mexico fought a war trying to keep Americans from invading and taking over Texas and lost. History may repeat in reverse.
Maybe we should provide free transportation to our northern border, as Mexico does to those fleeing Central America.
Si, senor.
Just an Observation. Asking Sarah Sanders to leave a Restaurant sets a bad precedence. This could easily lead to Liberal only restaurants which will give rise to Conservative only restaurants. Much like whites only restaurants in the south up until the 1960s.
It further Polarizes the people of america and breaks them into smaller groups with territory to defend. Though i believe this is the Deep States plan to keep us fighting each other. So we will blame the Others for our problems instead of the Wealthy and powerful.
Yes, the Deep State wants division, but no, they don’t want the country splitting. They’re Globalists after all, The want to unite Nations into vast Zones and the Zones into World Government. So since small is beautiful, we should be doing everything they don’t want us to do. And remember, they didn’t create the divisions – the divisions are naturally there. The idea of all these different races and cultures in one Nation is just ridiculous. It was hard enough to unite the different White ethnes – and that was when we were young and strong. But now you think we can absorb Black African Muslims when we are weak and there is no economic need for them? C’mon.
If they are going to be doing stuff to my food [ while laughing behind their hand ] I want to know they hate me. Trust must be earned.
How wonderfully appropriate the title of today’s piece “Conflict escalation” is to the gritty details of the long emergency. America’s decent into political incivility is just getting warmed up. The upcoming midterms, and the ’20 presidential campaign which has already started, promise to be a tour de force in political violence. As the population of “El Norte” continues to more and more resemble our southern neighbors, so too will our political discourse as we continue to spiral down the drain.
Uh oh, Jim. Racist, Russo-phile, and now paranoid? At least that’s what you’re detractors will say.
And now Trump wants to militarize space as well. smh
He’s a little late to the game with that. DoD’s been pursuing that goal in earnest for at least the last twenty years already. “Full Spectrum Dominance” (TM) is the marketing jingle.
We presently live in a deranged Zombie World of which I perceive three dangerous factions:
1) NPC’s
NPC is a term used in video games designating a character controlled by a computer by predetermined or responsive behavior. It refers to individuals who are perceived as controlled by unspecified forces; they think, talk and act in a mechanical, consistent, and often inappropriate manner. These people don’t seem to have the most basic of filters and swallow whole hog what the media presents. These are the folks in social media spewing hateful garbage just for the hell of it. (Their life is boring.)
2) Delusionals
These folks have filters that protect them from their dark side. They couch their pronouncements in benevolence. We only want to do good, advance humanity’s well-being. We are compassionate in our words, thoughts and actions. Hollywood has a major constituency of Delusionals, and also politicians who end up believing what they cooked up behind the scenes. Delusionals are vicious, greedy aggressors when blocked.
3) Pedants
Pedants are the academic intellectuals. The Pedants’ filter, because of the tenure position, infantilizes its recipients and separates them from the hurly burly of life. They are soldiers in the field of idealism who seek only perfection and excellence. Pedant filters prevent these people from seeing the silliness and impracticality of their pronouncements; they are the high priests and priestesses of absurdity. Safe rooms to protect students from unappetizing ideas? Get real!!! Sally Mae is coming, how’s that for a mean spirited thought.
TV where the Zombie World rules.
College kids should be angry about their student debt, but their anger should be at the universities that have charged them an arm and a leg to be taught to hate themselves.
You are right. Like to add that the definition of a bubble is when the government floods a sector with “free” money. AKA student loans. The universities reacted by doing lots of capital projects and putting themselves into debt. A conservative swing has put the pressure on so tuitions skyrocket. Which makes for more borrowing, and the snowball takes off. Not a good prognosis.
A good thing may evolve. The phony”need” for everyone to get a college degree may decline and skill sets for the Long Emergency may arise again.
“College kids should be angry about their student debt, but their anger should be at the universities that have charged them an arm and a leg to be taught to hate themselves.”
Colleges remind me of the documentary I watched yesterday about Leah Remini & Scientology; another cult where people would pay to be brainwashed & suffer emotional and physical abuse in the cause of “enlightenment” and “social justice”.
The Highlander Warrior
https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article6516752.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS33729892.jpg
What my liberal friends don’t understand is that Trump represents very old tradition. His mother’s name is MacLeod which in the context of Anglo-Saxon civilization is much more important than German roots of his father.
Clan MacLeod can be traced back to 1227 when Livonian crusade was at its peak and father of St. Alexander Nevsky Grand Prince Yaroslav II of Vladimir defeated Finnic peoples after they attacked Novgorod.
Meanwhile protagonist in this movie Connor MacLeod was born in 1518 when the slave trade started in Africa, St.Vitus dancing mania broke out in Strasbourg and Manchester Grammar School was completed in England, starting tradition that made Britain Great, but accidentally was killed by Margaret Thatcher, the Right Honourable Baroness.
*** References:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Anne_MacLeod_Trump
Highlander (1986) – ‘Training Montage’ scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf6SaA-Kdro
British Grammar Schools = System of Social elevators
Hey, McLeod (McCloud), get off a my ewe!
Clever
No, it’s just the punchline to an old joke. You can look it up. It involves Mick Jagger, a Scotsman named McLeod, & of course a ewe.
“Of course, this might also be viewed as a suicidal course of action for the party, since it puts them in opposition to the rule-of-law as a general principle, which is a pretty sketchy basis for any claim to govern.”
That’s one of the self-contradictions of contemporary progressivism. It embraces anarchism; supports the dismantlement of the rule of law.
But then what do Democratic candidates for office expect to win? The elected offices they aspire to fill will no longer exist.
I attended a fundraising event for the democratic candidate for congress in our district yesterday. I am supporting this fellow because the ancient, do-nothing ,career politician republican that he is running against has been totally useless for three decades now and needs to go. I have always been a voter that votes for the candidate based on what I perceive as their merits and not based on what color tie they wear. It was a very difficult thing to do yesterday to stand there for an hour and listen to this guy rant on to the attendees, who were 90% women btw, as he railed on about stopping the taking of children from their parents, the joys of Obamacare (even though he admitted it is flawed), and Trump sucks, Trump sucks, Trump sucks over and over and over. It was especially curious to see the ladies all so sad about the poor, destitute immigrant children sitting there in the $800K McMansion that housed our hostess and here husband and most of the neighbors there in attendance in their own. I did not have the balls to ask if any rooms were available for new homes for the “refugees”, but the thought did cross my mind.
I certainly never did fit in with such a crowd having paid off my $85K home in 2002 and if any one can appreciate the lives of those who live simply and at small expense it would be me and not them. Oh well, such is the way of the world
I happen to have healthcare.gov insurance myself. They call it Hioscar for some reason and let me tell you how wonderful it is. The cost per month is $1,475.00 which I would never even think of paying in the first place, but thanks to the American taxpayer, I don’t have to. Because the premiums are considered a Tax Credit (not a deduction) by the IRS, the IRS pays all of the premiums up front in my name except for $122.00 a month. Before you get excited and think of how fortunate I am, know this. The deductible for myself and my wife require that the first $2K of any and all medical expenses that we have are paid out of our pocket. The poor coverage of the rest of any services we might get make it impossible for us to use this “insurance” other than the routine office visits for antibiotics that will cost us over $200.00 each per visit plus the full price of the drugs. So I am going to have to hobble through until March when I qualify for Medicare to even look into getting my knee scoped for the cartilage tear that I have. Affordable healthcare? BULLSHIT!
Of course our congressional candidate has the solution for fixing it and that is to combine Medicaid and Obamacare into Medicare. Oh boy we are all seriously screwed. I am starting to become concerned that the Trump sucks, Trump sucks, Trump suck campaign is a passive aggressive attempt to drive everyone into the GG of G’s arms and start an ultra-right takeover of everything. Now THAT would be disaster. I would kindly ask all of those that can only bash Mr. Trump to consider changing tactics to do what we who had no use for Mr. Obama did, STFU and wait for the next opportunity to make a change. You are having the reverse effect people, be careful, please.
Walter, I sense that you would not really care to vote for the Democrat running for your district’s congressional seat.
Is there no other party present in your jurisdiction that has a candidate?
Why do you think there is no other party available in your district for voters fed up with the status quo?
Is it at all possible to quickly get some independently-minded, pragmatic, respected local business or professional person with deep pockets, spare time and perhaps a modicum of civic pride (OK maybe even a smidgen of ethics) and a contempt for the awful things the Political Class and the Evil Fuckers have done to your state and the nation (let alone the World)?
(A very tall order I know, but I suspect there are a handful of really smart and pissed off qualified persons who would love to upset the apple cart and help expose the Toxic Circus of Washington D.C. for what it is.)
We tried to vote in a better candidate in the Republican primary, but the party is pretty much the power that chooses and will always support the career politicians. There are no other parties at this level so throwing out the old and lame can only no be done by backing his democratic opponent. Getting rid of him three years from now is a better option or perhaps is our only option. In a state that is 95% democratic in the first place getting rid of one loser republican is no big deal. In fact we are starting to question the fact that as republicans were are a pathetic tiny minority and a target for the democrats. There is really no much hope for any type of victory, so by fighting we are at least doing something.
Interesting narrative Walter. Here in Deep State CA, I have known many people moving to Montana, Idaho, Florida and the Carolinas. They are retiring and selling their homes and buying homes in cash in these other states. They are just sick of how things are here (not just the cost of living….they are older and bought a long time ago…they just want out). It is an oppressive culture out here and CA has become a cesspool.
I do not understand why everyone is surprised that the Dems and GOP seem to run in the same gutter. The country is not divided liberal and conservative, it is divided nationalist vs, globalist socialist. There is more money pouring into this divide than the parties. The Trumpers represent the nationalist, America first group and are opposed by the Deep State, globalist first and subjugate the US to achieve that end. The older elements of the US remember an America that was a gentler place with loads of opportunity, but the younger not so much. Older folks want to MAGA and younger want to have someone take care of them. The split is widening and becoming more violent as folks dig in their heels. WW2 was fought over less philosophical differences than we are seeing today. I do not see a resolution to the split, or any form of compromise. 1850 to 1861 had the same Deep seated divide in the country as now, and it led to a civil war. That war was geographic, North vs. South. How do you suppose the boundaries of this one will be set? Maybe everyone in the Deep State will move to the cities, and the Nationalists will move to the country. From the beginning the Leftists will be surrounded.
The intolerance of the Deep State is becoming deeper and deeper. Trump is looking for reasons to assume power and preserve the nationalist slant. The Deep State needs to learn to build up the country rather than tear it down to win future political gain. Of course, that is against its globalistic charter. So far, the old timers still outnumber the kids, and they vote. But the immigrants just keep on coming. And we grow more suckers every day that think that the elite of the world are going to be benevolent and take care of them instead of exploit them.
Once again about the Colored Projects of the West
The difference between the Colored Projects in anthropology: all the three projects believe that humanity has broken up into two biologically different species, which we conditionally call perfecti and profane, and this makes all projects an anti-Christian heresy, since the very idea of such a split nullifies the idea of the Christian Incarnation.
The Black Project believes that the superior race perfecti can treat the profane as animals, denying them the right to live and killing them in view of the lack of usefulness for perfecti.
The Red Project turns the black inside out and declares perfecti parasites, which must be exterminated as a class, and the White Project believes that the perfecti should take care of the profane, in the sense that it is not the profane that feed the perfecti, but on the contrary the perfecti gives the profane work, which without them can not organize the production process.
Trump is Red
Clinton is Black
Obama + Bushes = White
I like your model. My only question is why you separate the Clintonoids from the Obamas and Bushes? I do not think they give a darn about the profane either. I equate your Blacks and whites as being the federalist Deep State who have been in control of us for thirty years. Trump is a necessary Red shockwave.
Food for thought. Trump is a narcissistic, boorish type of individual. Considering the need for a Red shockwave, isn’t he the perfect fit to shake things up. We sure did not need another Bush.
Obama and Bushes are Clinton’s sworn enemies.
Only against each other in their greed for wealth and power, but all enemies of US(A) and all promoters of the NWO agenda.
…and all ARE promoters of the NWO agenda that is.
They drink and party together. United to f– the little guy, us.
Western Colored Projects is a three-legged stool, when one leg disappears or goes deep underground, like American Red Project (Roosevelt) did after McCarthy rule, the whole system becomes unstable.
Your model doesn’t really seem to account for a lot of things.
For instance, how does it account for the fact that people consistently vote against their own interests in large numbers, substituting values for interests? Only human beans are so “intelligent” that they conceive of & adopt ideas that work in direct opposition to their own interests, substituting ersatz values for interests.
I think your White project needs some work. Obama’s exactly the same as Clinton, just much slicker. See Beantown’s theory below. Clinton’s a Type 1, Obama’s a Type 2 on steroids. And the Bush’s are all just old money idiots. For what it’s worth, The Reds have it exactly right. The rich are parasites.
The Reds have it exactly right. The rich are parasites
They are allwrong.
The key word is working System of Social Elevators – every person given an opportunity to make of himself an Image and Likeness of God to the best of his natural abilities.
@FINCA
“The key word is working System of Social Elevators – every person given an opportunity to make of himself an Image and Likeness of God to the best of his natural abilities.”
Quite So.
Not trying to piss in the whiskey, buuuuuuut………..:
Here’s what Carroll Quigley had to say about Economic ladders (Elevators) in the late 60’s, mid -seventies:
“There is a change underway, however. Our society used to be a ladder on which people generally climbed upward. More and more now we are going to a planetary structure, in which the great dominant lower middle class, the class that determines our prevailing values and organizational structures in education, government, and most of society, are providing recruits for the other groups — sideways, up, and even down, although the movement downward is relatively small. As the workers become increasingly petty bourgeois and as middle-class bureaucratic and organizational structures increasingly govern all aspects of our society, our society is increasingly taking on the characteristics of the lower middle class, although the poverty culture is also growing. The working class is not growing. Increasingly we are doing things with engineers sitting at consoles, rather than with workers screwing nuts on wheels. The workers are a diminishing, segment of society, contrary to Marx’s prediction that the proletariat would grow and grow. I have argued elsewhere that many people today are frustrated because we are surrounded by organizational structures and artifacts. Only the petty bourgeoisie can find security and emotional satisfaction in an organizational structure, and only a middle-class person can find them in artifacts, things that men have made, such as houses, yachts, and swimming pools. But human beings who are growing up crave sensation and experience. They want contact with other people, moment-to-moment, intimate contact. I’ve discovered, however, that the intimacy really isn’t there. Young people touch each other, often in an almost ritual way; they sleep together, eat together, have sex together. But I don’t see the intimacy. There is a lot of action, of course, but not so much more than in the old days, I believe, because now there is a great deal more talk than action. This group, the lower middle class, it seems to me, holds the key to the future. I think probably they will win out. If they do, they will resolutely defend our organizational structures and artifacts. They will cling to the automobile, for instance; they will not permit us to adopt more efficient methods of moving people around. They will defend the system very much as it is and, if necessary, they will use all the force they can command. Eventually they will stop dissent altogether, whether from the intellectuals, the religious, the poor, the people who run the foundations, the Ivy League colleges, all the rest. The colleges are already becoming bureaucratized, anyway. I can’t see the big universities or the foundations as a strong progressive force. The people who run Harvard and the Ford Foundation look more and more like lower-middle-class bureaucrats who pose no threat to the established order because they are prepared to do anything to defend the system.”
and ……………..:
“told his students in “The World Since 1914” class that there was little point in discussing the Third World when they knew so little about how their own society works: “So I told them about the USA — really very hair-raising when it is all laid out in sequence: . . . . 1. cosmic hierarchy; 2. energy; 3. agriculture; 4. food; 5. health and medical services; 6. education; 7. income flows and the worship of GROWTH; 8. inflation. . . showing how we are violating every aspect of life by turning everything into a ripoff because we. . . have adopted the view that insatiable individualistic greed must run the world.” 7 He feared “that the students will come to feel that all is hopeless, so I must. . . show them how solutions can be found by holistic methods seeking diversity, de-centralization, communities. . .etc.” 8 Pleased with the class response, he later recalled: “The students were very excited and my last lecture in which I put the whole picture together was about the best lecture I ever gave. That was 10 Dec. [1975], my last full day of teaching after 41 years.”
? Carroll Quigley, Carroll Quigley: Life, Lectures and Collected Writings
Just try to get a copy of “Tragedy & Hope, A history of the world in our time.” I paid $600.00 for mine twenty years ago.
Large pools of private wealth are essentially blood clots in the economic circulation system. They essentially take that money out of circulation and further impede the flows of whatever remains. They myth of social elevation, especially in (but certainly not limited to) western style capitalist systems has been proven false so many times that it’s a virtual axiom at this point. The rich will always work to consolidate their wealth and starve their “inferiors.” You can be rich or you can be a good and moral person, but you certainly can’t be both. The very act of being rich by definition means that you are a wealth hoarder who elevates him or herself above others, and not usually just concerning money. It’s a basic character defect that might well lie latent in all of us.
Eeyore sez:
“Just try to get a copy of “Tragedy & Hope, A history of the world in our time.” I paid $600.00 for mine twenty years ago.”
From the dread Amazoon: Hardcover copy for $38.95.
Somebody got took… but *good*.
In it’s entirety – online pdf: It will cost you your time (as will purchasing it).
http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/Tragedy_and_Hope.pdf
Yeah, just *try* and get one; as you can see, it’s FORBIDDEN!
I should add, not that Trump legitimately represents tour Red cause either. He’s also rich and an even greater parasite than most.
Apropos of absolutely nothing that was said.
Your self-importance is breathtaking.
How about trying just a couple of well-thought out, and written comments, instead of trying to be CFN’s cheerleader?
Either that, or get your own blog- you’re boring.
And I was about to compliment you on quoting Carroll Quigley, whom I’ve quoted extensively before too. Sorry you’re not a fan. I’m crushed.
Maybe everyone in the Deep State will move to the cities, and the Nationalists will move to the country. From the beginning the Leftists will be surrounded.
I think you hit the nail on the head right there, JAZ. For the most part, the cultural division lines are already drawn exactly like that, between big city/corporate people, and rural and smaller backwater cities, who are for the most part minimally corporate or largely subservient corporate (way down at the bottom of the pecking order) where they must.
For example” my local insurance agent, who was never in his office and generally provided really shitty service [to keep everything on the cheap, he hired his wife as the receptionist, and she was an utter disaster as well], albeit cheap rates, recently took a corporate marketing job with the same company in Wisconsin, so I imagine his ambition was always to climb the corporate ladder. He made a big to do about it in the local newspaper about what an “honor” it was to serve the local community for the past several years, which I’m sure was just so much self-serving bullshit. He won’t be missed.
In short, just like the last civil war, I think the battle lines will be drawn between small and local, and large and centralized. Small and local will win if and only if they completely withdraw their support across the board for big and centralized. “Starve the beast,” if you will. This will of course be aided by the fact that big and centralized is already engaged in economic warfare against small and local in an attempt to starve them/us first.
That war has been going on for a long time. The corporations have been successful at eliminating the medium and small businessman from the competitive scene. Economies of scale create an unfair marketplace. Then the corporations went Globalist moving jobs and effort overseas and not giving a darn about what was left behind. AND THE DEEP STATE SUPPORTED THEM 100%. Now tell me who has been the enemy of the people of the United States?
Buy local, avoid corporate buying. Support the only anti tool Trump has to fight the globalists, the tariff. South Carolina is whining that if they cannot have steel from overseas, their costs will go up. Gee, why don’t you go talk to a few locals in Pittsburgh and Minnesota, I’ll bet you can get a deal. Buy American, our future depends on it.
Agreed!
I notice how the MSM tells the public that the price for goods may go up because of tariffs, but they don’t explain why. One reason is because American workers (our neighbors) are paid more, so the cost of the good is more. The material or goods will still be made, but they’ll be manufactured domestically. So, again, the MSM has an agenda in all this.
Yep. Conditioned response. As in, “there’s a big throbbing stiff one coming your way, so lube up and take it gratefully, OR ELSE!”
“Buy local, avoid corporate buying.”
yes, absolutely!
you are keeping wealth in your community by doing so
No, it was the same conflict. The Nazis and Fascists were Nationalists and the Capitalists and Communists were and are Globalists. Americans were too dumb to realize it by and large, and fought for the very people who would become their overt and deadly enemies a couple of generations later.
Capitalism naturally wants to grow. And if you don’t turn your mom and pop business into a corporation, there something wrong with you. Not a millionaire? What’s wrong with you?
How do you keep Capitalism small and nationalist friendly? By having oversight by People who aren’t Capitalists or beholden to them. Some industry is naturally big and corporate. Fine as long as they play ball with the nation. If not, they can leave and we’d find people who would. No confiscation under these two systems. We respect creativity, hard work, and private property. But there are other aspects to life, namely the social, cultural, and spiritual aspects. A balance must be found. And people devoted to growth and private profit are not the ones to find it.
Some rare insights from the Great and Mighty Janos, The Terrible! Of course you are aware that fascism, even though it’s loosely defined as “authoritarian nationalism,” is by definition aligned with industry (albeit “state controlled”), which in our case is capitalist. And capitalists are by definition about growth and erasing regulatory restrictions on same. So it’s hard to imagine any capitalist system not eventually producing the outcomes we see today, which has been accurately labeled “inverted totalitarianism,” or you might say “the tyranny of the marketplace.” Although, in fact, we know that’s not actually true either, since what we have today is anything but an actual “free market” in any sense of the word, but a thoroughly top-down rigged affair to ensure the status quo is never seriously disrupted.
To be fair, socialism has proven to be, at best, a half-measure to help reduce the ill effects of capitalism, while communism, if it’s ever been actually practiced at all (and most would argue that whatever the USSR had, it wasn’t pure communism), what it is mostly is a means of overt authoritarian control. So it could well be that no means of social cooperation/control humans have dreamed up yet is going to be anything close to optimal, and indeed, it could be that the very idea of large scale hierarchical systems designed to control large (and growing) human populations in general is fundamentally flawed, which, once again, mostly traces back to industrial capitalism and its insane exponential growth model/mantra/paradigm.
Well you’re confusing who leads and who follows. If the Corporations lead, it’s what we have now – Plutocracy. They want to sell hot dogs on top of the Eiffel Tower – you don’t let them. They want to sell Meth, you don’t let them. They want to stay open 24/7, you don’t let them. See how easy it is? They don’t care about what’s good for humans qua humans. We do. Maybe they don’t know? We do. They don’t care? We don’t care if they care or not. They will either bend or break. Actually we do care if they care: we’d prefer to do business with people who do care. So if they want contracts, they better pretend to care. And they will – they’re good at that, subhumans that they are.
But yes, from a radical traditionalist or back to nature pov, Fascism and National Socialism fail. National Socialism took this criticism seriously, but realized it had to keep up with the world or be conquered. So they encouraged healthy living as much as possible and a reverence for nature. But more than this can not be had in this Kali Yuga, not with the swarthy men surging, eager to feast in the White Tower.
Good points old boy, but how are we going to rein in the corporations when they now own the government, lock, stock, and gun barrels? There is also an issue with defining “we,” since if we put this issue to an actual vote (corps or not), it’s not at all clear who would win. Such is the state of our current propagandistic delusion.
Classic who/whom issue. The corporations are not our friends. Corporations got a yuge boost with the passage of the 14th amendment in 1868. Between 1890 & 1910, there were 288 SCOTUS cases involving corporations. Corporations are held to be ‘persons’ under the 14th. Lurking in the background of Citizens United for example is the ever-present 14th amendment, although it’s generally considered a 1st amendment case.
Before the modern era of the ‘Registration’ system, a corporation could only be chartered by act of Congress. Corporations do have their uses, when huge amounts of capital have to be raised, the corporate form is the most efficient way to do this. It could be argued (& was) that the building of the railroads required the chartering of corporations. But does McDonald’s or Walmarts really need to exist in corporate form?
Bottom line is, corporations are not people, and should not have the same rights as people.
>>>Between 1890 & 1910, there were 288 SCOTUS cases involving corporations.
Meant to say, “Between 1890 & 1910, there were 288 14th amendment cases argued before the SCOTUS involving corporations.”
To this I would only add that the Nazis were Nationalists… who wanted to enslave and subjugate the entire world under Nazi rule. So in this regard they had more in common with globalists than you account for.
True nationalists respect other nations. If you wonder why Trump is so popular in China despite the trade war, it’s because the Chinese are nothing if not nationalistic, and they understand and respect Trump for putting America first. They never understood the Baizuo and this one-world kumbaya nonsense.
Well there is some substance to your critique. Hitler was an imperialist. He wanted the Germany and England to rule the world, perhaps allowing other Fascist nations a bit here and there. There is certainly room for a more advanced view.
Theorists admire Ataturk because he renounced parts of the Turkish Empire in order to keep Turkey, Turkey. At least he did so under pressure and when the West was really bearing down on him. But he guided his people thru the crisis and kept a reduced Turkey intact and sovereign.
Earlier Americans didn’t respect the Indian Nations. That’s why we have an America in the first place. Until you factor that in, your analysis remains incomplete.
Morality often serves Death not Life after all. It’s very easily hijacked and that is the whole modus operandi of the Left.
True, and not only that, but European nations were continuously at war with each other.
Nationalism can obviously take many forms, but when it’s based on a culture of violent expansionism that threatens other well-established boundaries, it is more accurately empiracy—empire-building.
With regard to native Americans, it’s unlikely Europeans considered them fully human—let alone a “nation” of humans. They weren’t united. They weren’t Christian. They weren’t “civilized”. They were “savages”—a designation that conveniently allowed for all manner of European conduct.
The indian nations were also at war with one another. So why was one nation — the White nation — held to a different standard? It warred with the other nations on this continent & prevailed.
True, it was a late-comer to America. So it’s eliminated as a moral contender because of that? We modern people carry such a burden of guilt for bringing the savages the benefits of fiery spirits & warm blankets. But could we have done anything else?
@Tate
Not only were they at war with each other, but all three of the major empires—Maya, Aztec, and Inca—went well beyond European atrocities with state-sponsored cannibalism! They weren’t called savages for nothing.
Ask anyone in South America if they would prefer to go back to the good old days and see what they say. The Mexicans romanticize about their Aztec roots, but I doubt they’d really want to turn back the clock.
The comment about how the restaurant workers should have just spit and rubbed their privates in Trump officials food reminds me why I never discuss politics in public anymore. It’s also the reason I will vote for the candidate who puts US citizens above a globalist agenda. Like our host,I’m no fanboy of Trump, but I’ll be danged if I sit by while the crazy’s who’ve taken over the Dems run us right off the cliff.
Just ke
Sorry, I meant to say just like “W” did.
. “As far as I know, Time Magazine has not offered an explanation or an apology for this attempt to misrepresent reality to an already confused American public.”
Don’t expect one. Much of the MSM isn’t about journalism, it’s about propaganda. Or more precisely, multinational corporations (like Time Warner) wage propaganda war against the population.
The fact that these organizations run on pointing out an enemies weaknesses (CNN vs Trump, as example), but then do not correct their own mistakes (as in the crying child you mention), is a very clear sign of agenda at play.
So, don’t believe anything you read and only half of what you see. There is an enormity of fuckery going on out there in media today.
Trump’s idiocy on trade is coming home to roost. Today it was noted that Harley-Davidson is moving production OFF SHORE to avoid being hit by Europe’s retaliatory tariffs. Workers in Wisconsin take it in the ear. Winning. Winning.
Last week it was noted that Chinese tariffs on Soybeans has already cost Iowa farmers $625M due to declining prices since demand for the product is way down. Winning. Winning.
Stock market has been going down for two weeks as the market DOES understand the impact of “trade wars are easy to win” insanity. Winning. Winning.
The rich got their tax cuts, and now YOUR retirement accounts are getting their ‘cuts’ from Dotard Donnie. Winning. Winning.
A couple months ago this website had some hiccups one morning; I can only wonder what’s going on, but I suspect our nation’s enemies are just playing with us again. The fun will hit high gear if they decide to crash the electric grid….just another piece of decaying infrastructure. Winning. Winning.
More good news….did anyone catch this article over the weekend:
“The United States Is Even More Broke Than We Think”
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4183557-united-states-even-broke-think
Pleasant reading sports fans…. Winning. Winning.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-24/china-s-central-bank-cuts-reserve-ratio-for-some-banks
I found that interesting. This is one reaction the Chinese are having to US tariffs, allowing banks to lend to small companies.
So, I’d argue (and I’m no economist so I don’t know every detail) that a positive reaction to tariffs is to build domestic industry/companies is the right way to go. So, in essence, I think the Chinese are showing us an example of what we oughta be doing– providing domestic supply through native business.
MPOV,
…Sometimes you have to destroy the village to save it….
I remember when Reagan helped out HD with a big tariff on bikes over 700cc. The Honda people built the Magna [ 699cc ] which was an excellent machine. More “ go “ for the “ dough “.
The seekingalpha article appears to be off by about $13 trillion for its national debt number ($21 trillion not $34 trillion). As far as unfunded Social Security and Medicare liabilities, we have known about those for years but the numbers seem to be all over the map.
This piece is why nothing anyone does or does not do is going to alter events. It is all too little, too late. We have started under and the band plays on. The question becomes how quickly will Mr. K’s predictions come to fruition. The street violence we are going to see will be breathtaking. It will make the civil rights wars look as nothing. For one, there are far more guns now everywhere. And the internet will be shut down by government to attempt to blind the citizenry’s view of awful. We hate each other. Trump is pressing that home. Rhetoric is one step away from action. Out of control. Going to burn. Are you ready? This is just unprecedented in the sense of overthrowing an elected president.
I wonder what this “resistance” has for brains, when their strategy for electoral success is to court a body of voters whose first act upon arriving at the US border is to violate the laws of the land they’re entering.
The United States is a fractious polity that doesn’t have any common notion of “blood and soil” binding it together. Quite the opposite. You can see the manifestation in Washington, even as the two main parties contend for the money of ruling oligarchs, the same two parties are at daggers drawn.
The war between the states stopped being a shooting war but the antagonism never went away. This is what Republican and Democrat represent, two peoples that detest one another, northerners and southerners, people in other states lining up behind one or the other. The only thread binding North to South, the thread that holds this mess together, is the idea that within these borders you’re free to go where you want, to do pretty much what you want, as long as you observe some basic customs and laws.
Without this shared observance, what is it that holds the country together? Law Number One for any country that intends to exist as a country is the control of its boundaries, the idea that outsiders wanting the right to enter have to ask permission.
Once both outsiders and existing citizens get the notion that this most Basic Law can be violated then there is no hope in hell. The only thread binding the United States unravels. If the Basic Law means nothing then other laws mean nothing and the United States itself unravels.
There’s some truth in what you’re saying, but the present divisions are a lot more complicated than a simple sectional conflict.
Yeah, it’s more complicated. But the sectional conflict involved a bloody war that killed hundreds of thousands and destroyed the south.
“… Ms. Waters’ proposal. Other Democratic party leaders zipped their pie-holes about it.”
Mr. Kunstler,
Why did they not comment? Because you can’t fix “stupid”….
I don’t think in terms of “Democrat” or “republican” because that is a false moiety. Instead I act rather cynically in observing Robert Ringer’s three types of people:
Type 1 – someone who wants everything you have and to screw you. And tells you up front that’s what he wants to do.
Type 2 – someone who tries to convince you he is on your side, but actually is planning to stab you in the back and take everything from you.
Type 3 – someone who really and truly wants the best for you and tells you that, but because of circumstances, when push comes to shove, he will regretfully screw you.
Type 1 is the most straightforward and honest. Shame on you if you don’t protect yourself. Type 2 is the most insidious because they tell you they are your friend while planning to screw you. Type 3 is the most dangerous because they honestly only want good for you, but, gee, I’m so sorry, things happened and I inadvertently had to screw you.
Maybe this is a very cynical way to look at people, but at least you can be prepared. That’s why I don’t get too offended by what’s happening in the world today – I already knew that things would be the way they are now. Politicians are mostly type 2, while some newly minted freshmen start out as type 3, but end up type 2.
Excellent analysis.
When I’m in a good mood I’m type 3, and when I’m grouchy I”m type 1.
Either way, I’m gonna get your stuff, Bill 🙂
thanks in advance! lol
Bill, my term for what you describe is we’re in a YOYO world, i.e., You’re On Your Own.
This is what the GOP has pushed for years, i.e., you want healthcare, buy it yourself, you’re on your own.
It’s Social Darwinism, dog eat dog, watch your back, survival of the fittest, you’re on your own.
Well Bill, your three types are like the difference between a methhead and a pothead. They’ll both steal your stash, but the pothead will stick around and help you look for it.
That’s good, Cap’n!
“The trouble is that the entities waiting to replace both the useless, careless, feckless Democrats and Republicans are chaos and violence” JHK
Wasn’t that long ago the the steady flow of lies and deceit made everyone feel good.
Remember 1911 and 1912 when were were just trying to get some cheap bananas? Ah the good old days.
“You got to reap just what you sow, that old saying is true” Further On Down The Road – 1957 Medwick
Glad you got the site back up, the server was dead as a door nail early this morning.
Vladimir Putin from Behind:
Theresa May begs forgiveness for the Scripal affair
https://i0.wp.com/www.nigerianews.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Theresa-May-knelling-before-prince-William-picture.jpg
nigerianews! You expect anybody to click on that?
Same pic:
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36041316_10216756028555762_6477556988770254848_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=58c4836ca6e4c1f3855575fef1759be5&oe=5BA6FE0B
Besides, you REALLY should have an anti-virus software with enabled Internet protection.
I think that’s one of those prince guys, not Putin. It’s pretty stomach-churning nevertheless.
I think that’s one of those prince guys, not Putin.
Yes, I know.
Come the next financial crisis, we will long for being able to fight over wedding cakes and stupidly chosen slogans on jackets.
There’s too much debt and not enough money backed by anything better than the “full faith and credit” of our crumbling nation. What could possibly go wrong?
Financial crisis is not an Act of God, it is, like “Global Warming”, a man-made disaster.
The last one was arranged by the Blacks in 2008 by the method of denying financial aid to conservative Lehman Brothers while providing one to hooligan Bear Stearns.
Jobe, the next financial crisis will arrive right on time because Congress is missing in action while pissing away years fighting over wedding cakes, stupid slogans on jackets, debating restroom bills, abortion, bump stocks, gay rights and other social issues that rile idiots in the GOP base to keep them angry and afraid to they can be milked like fat cows for money and votes.
If the Republicans just ran on a platform of cutting taxes and shrinking government, they wouldn’t be very popular with Evangelicals (and a lot of Catholics).
GREEN ALBA, from the denier,
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/30-years-of-global-warming-forecasts-all-failed/
Thank you for thinking of me, Malthuss, but there’s an entire international (booh…) community of climate scientists out there, who’ve been working for a very long time on the detail wherein the devil famously resides. Here’s how long they’ve been at it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_science
I’m a nobody, so your information is obviously wasted on me. Nobody ever asks me before they make policy decisions.
However, I think these ladies and gents of the science community need to be told they’ve been getting it wrong all these years because a report in the Wall Street Journal says so.
The Wall Street Journal… 🙂 .
So I’ll leave you to write to them and you could maybe let me know how you get on. Don’t forget to cite your other references too.
But I’m glad you recognise yourself as a denier and not a sceptic, because it’s a very important distinction, as I’ve mentioned before.
Know thyself:
http://www.davidbrin.com/nonfiction/climatechange1.html
And:
http://www.davidbrin.com/nonfiction/climatechange1.html
I’d advise reading at least as far down as the ‘Young guns’ bit. It suggests ways science works that may differ from how you understand the process.
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But, you know what? I’d invite you to put your money where your mouth is and invest in some prime real estate on the Florida coast. For your grandchildren.
Your hero’s got some, as you know. I like this, though:
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-climate-change-golf-course-223436
“Donald Trump says he is “not a big believer in global warming.” He has called it “a total hoax,” “bullshit” and “pseudoscience.” ”
But for his golf course in Ireland, he’s building a wall – yes, that’s right, a WALL, and not to keep Mexicans out.
“A permit application for the wall, filed by Trump International Golf Links Ireland and reviewed by POLITICO, explicitly cites global warming and its consequences — increased erosion due to rising sea levels and extreme weather this century — as a chief justification for building the structure.”
That’s Donald putting his money where his mouth isn’t. Not a good look if you want people to think you mean what you say. But we can probably agree he doesn’t really care about that. It’s all about the story.
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aabb32
Miami-Dade County. ‘Climate gentrification’. I guess that means if you’re not rich enough to be up a hill you’re looking at a double whammy. Wet investments.
But there will be sand to bury your head in when it’s nor stormy.
Someone should propose an intervention with Peter Fonda. Get Jane to talk him down.
Or maybe not.
That might be “problematic.”
Off topic:
There is a commenter here who lives on the north shore of Lake Superior in Minnesota. I’ve forgotten who. If that person is monitoring CFN today please identify yourself. I’m going to be up in your vicinity for a few days beginning July 18. How many miles from Duluth are you?
Q.
Are you going to subject him or her to your interminable grammar lessons while you’re there, Q.? Just kidding!
By the by, I was Google Street Viewing Duluth Friday after reading some left wing screed about how run down it was over on NakCap. Nothing could be further from the truth! The place looked very well kept and appealing. Beautiful area in general.
Those who flee W and M say ‘Horrid, humid, with voracious mosquitoes in summer and 9? months of winter.’
Very bad weather.
I don’t mind the cold, but yes, the Minnesota mosquitoes are indeed legendary. The town and area themselves looked very presentable, though. The article was pitching Duluth as a typical run-down breeding ground for disaffected Trump voters. I didn’t see that at all.
Yes Mr.Q! It is I.
I should be around, and I live in Duluth, in the hills there facing Gitchee Gumee.
Contact me at superiorbluewater@outlook.com
we can meet for lunch perhaps. I will be out of town the next day on the 19th.
Yes Mr.Q! It is I. – PeteAtomic
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Thanks for responding, Pete. If my plans work out perfectly I will be arriving by motorcycle in the mid to late afternoon of July 18 after covering 260 miles from Ishpeming, MI that day. I don’t know yet where I’m staying. I have scheduled July 19 as a day of rest since I will have just traveled 900 miles over the span of 4 days, from Westmeath Ontario to Duluth.
The next day (July 20) I am meeting up with a Major who is the Wing Executive Officer of the 148th Air National Guard Fighter Wing. He has promised to give me a grand tour of what used to be Duluth AFB when I was stationed there in 1962-1965. After that my time is my own. Maybe July 21 will be a day we can hook up. I will be in touch once my plans firm up, particularly what motel I’ll be staying in.
Pete,
When I clicked your link nothing came up. I then copied your link into a Google search box and it came back asking me ‘did you mean’ “superior bluewater@outlook.com” In other words Google was insisting I needed a space after superior. Please check your link and let me know what it should be.
Q.
No that’s the correct email Q but regardless I gonna be outta town til Monday July 23 for a family reunion. So I can always give you recommendations on where to stay and what to do etc
gonna be outta town til Monday July 23 – PeteA
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Unfortunately I’ll probably be on my way back to Jersey by July 23 but I’d welcome your advice on where to stay (especially if it’s cheap and near the Airport/ANG Base) and ‘what to do’.
Sorry I’m gonna miss meeting up with you.
I agree with you about the Democratic Party. “What a ragtag and bobtail of mendacious cowards it has become.” But the Republican Party is worse. They have systematically dismantled protections for the middle class and poor and bestowed protections and benefits to the corporations and billionaire class since Reagan. The latest “tax-cut” is just a continuation of this screwing.
And the protection for illegal employment is more the Republicans fault as the Dems. “It’s one thing to ignore the economically foundering, traditional working-class constituency of actual US citizens who are having a tougher time every year making a living; it’s another thing to bring in a several-millionfold population of non-citizens to replace them.” Where are the laws from the party in power penalizing the businesses that hire illegals?
This is just forensics though, the future is highly educated Corporate global concerns managing highly uneducated Americans in the continual grinding down of the working/service class employees of this country. Communal living (like refugees) will become the norm.
There is no “collapse” coming. The money magicians will agree to simultaneously forgive several trillion in debt so the digits stay in a conceptual range. And the workers? They’ll take it because they have a “job.” Let’s call it the Anti-Socialist Workers Party.
“The money magicians will agree to simultaneously forgive several trillion in debt so the digits stay in a conceptual range.”
My version would be to move the decimal point left one digit on all dollar denominated debts and assets.
A hamburger priced at $5.65 would be priced at 57 cents. Your mortgage would go from $189,374 to 18,937.40. Those holding change would enjoy a ten-fold increase. Minimum wage would become 73 cents per hour [ reduce to one-tenth, but always round up ].
Back to the “good old days” – lol.
Many rubbed their eyes in astonishment when they saw persons walking on water near Baghdad. But a closer look exposes the terrible truth: the mighty Tigris River, which has been flowing in Iraq for thousands of years, has dried up and is now separated from its banks by a simple walk in a shallow puddle. In the other parts of Iraq, the fish had already died and so the vegetation. The Tigris River (and the Euphrates River) are not only the drinking water of Iraq, they are the only source of irrigation and agriculture, and if they are dry, the end is clear.
— https://youtu.be/-Z0TArfWwIo
There are 3 main reasons for the disappearance of the River:
1/ Turkey, suffering from a shortage of water itself, built a giant dam not far from the Iraqi border. But Iraq was engrossed in its civil wars and it did not pay attention to the approaching catastrophe.
2/ The second reason is drought. This resulted in the wild and illegal pumping of well water by villagers. Since the authorities in the entire Arab region are non-functioning and are completely corrupt, there is no control over these well drilling. Often times the regime itself is drilling for profits for themselves.
3/ The third reason is the regime. Decades of ignoring the needs of the population has made the authorities in the Arab region irrelevant. They do not and can not control the situation.
The symbol of the existence of Iraq, the Tigris River in Mosul and Baghdad, as well as the Euphrates River – are disappearing, and with them is Iraq.
And so we see the extreme contempt the Turkish Sultan displays towards the Arabs, as he takes their water from them, and as he supports their enemy Iran.
So where to will the Iraqis go? Syria?
“Syria” too is drying up, and the dryness has led to the civil war, which leads to dryness, and so on. The Ba’th regime forced Syrians to grow cotton, so the villagers drilled wells and illegally stole water to maintain their crops. The groundwater level fell, everything dried up, and the land turned into an arid desert. The villagers, some Sunni some Kurds, began to wander to the cities. Their suffering, futility, powerlessness, and poverty were among the main contributors to the civil war that broke out in March 2011.
The same story now repeats itself between Egypt and Ethiopia, Jordan and Syria, and generally the whole Middle East.
Again, the question is asked, where to will all these millions of people go? Euroba?
This latest test of US sovereignty will be decisive in many ways. Americans best understand this well.
Where will all those millions go? Maybe nowhere. Maybe millions die of thirst where they are or maybe in refugee camps.
Water wars are resource wars.
Coming to a country near us.
“where to [sic] will all these millions of people go?”
Maybe they can go to Palestine. Or southern Lebanon, there’s a big river there, the Leontes.
Beyond that, there’s no cause for alarm because if this is true, it’s just part of a much longer range trend in climate warming in that region. It began sometime in the Middle Ages and has continued on & off ever since. The Earth’s climate undergoes long range trends in warming & cooling.
Right now we’re in a short warming trend within a longer-term Ice Age. That’s right, lots of people don’t realize we’re actually living in an Ice Age. It’s a good thing human beings developed the means to pump large quantities of CO2 into the atmosphere to continue this interregnum warming period before it started turning colder again.
The 500,000,000 Arabs of the Middle East are not going to “Palestine”. They’ll be heading to Green Narnia. The Latin Americans think Green Narnia is your home. You better figure out how to educate them to know better.
“You better figure out how to educate them to know better.”
Ummm, yeah. Glad you mentioned it, we’re working on that. But it seems there’s a hitch with getting most of your co-ethnics to sign on here for some reason. Do you have any sway? Maybe you could put in a good word.
The false impressions you collected from the idiot box I would suggest you seek to redress with the idiot box.
Ex nihilo nihil fit. I don’t watch the TeeVee.
So then, must be them surveys you took in them Vatican confessionals.
The only connection I have to Rome is through Martin Luther.
Travel ban
For: Roberts, Kennedy, Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch
Against: (((Breyer, Ginsburg, Kagan))), Sotomayor
Yep, there’s still that hitch in place, it would seem.
So, in your racist universe, 3 political appointees appointed by non-Jews, count as the majority of Jews. Maybe watching “TeeVee” may actually raise your IQ.
In Ron Unz’s latest edition of his brilliant ongoing series “American Pravda,” which he titles “the JFK Assassasination, Part II [Part I is linked] — Who Did It?” dated June 25, 2018, he brings us another of his closely-reasoned, astonishing enquiries into a matter that has long been relegated to the realm of wingnut, tin-foil hat ‘Conspiracy Theory,’ indeed the Granddaddy Conspiracy Theory (& perhaps Conspiracy Fact) of them all. He plunges right into the darkest, wooliest chapter, the veritable beating heart of Conspiracy theorists, the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
You will be riveted by his unpacking of the various clues & where they ultimately lead. Spoiler alert! If you don’t want to know what he concludes, read no further.
The trail leads Unz to a book that has been consistently suppressed since its publication in 1994, Michael Collins Piper’s Final Judgment. Ron was able to obtain the rights to it & it is now archived & available for free at his webside Unz.com. I will mention only two other relevant pieces of information concerning Unz’s analysis: 1) Lyndon Baines Johnson & 2) Dimona, Israel.
Also of interest will be Laurent Guyenot’s June 3, 2018 article “Did Israel Kill the Kennedys” at the same website.
Ron Unz btw is what some have described as a “self-hating Jew.” Translation: he cares about the truth.
“Again, the question is asked, where to will all these millions of people go”
Israel? They seem to have plenty of everything…..
Well, if you think accommodating 500,000,000 islamo Saracens in tiny Israel is not a problem, then it’s definitely not a problem for the US to accommodate them. I’ll be making this suggestion on your behalf with the Elders.
“I’ll be making this suggestion on your behalf with the Elders.”
Mofo,
Thank you. I hope they embrace the suggestion, as I might someday need to exercise my “Right of return”, and could use a kind word…you know, make the crooked straight and the rough places plain…
A “Rabbi” in other words.
How ironic that Syria and Iraq, homelands to the Ba’th party, are now so dry no one can take a bath. Some may not give a shi’ite, but I prefer to look to the sunni side of life and hope for the best.
Nice!
Hmuller,
You missed your calling.
The notion that the Democratic Party is targeting maximum immigration in order to secure its future voter base smells to me of the purest bullshit, whiffed straight out of some right-wing media CAFO. The Democrats’ actual electoral strategy since the early nineties hasn’t been to offer policies that would help minorities — especially new immigrants, legal or otherwise — to buy their votes. It has been to peel off Republican voters, by serving the Democrats up as the Republican Party Lite. Exhibit A: the Clintons.
Over our lifetimes, the U.S. electorate has sorted itself along lines that reflect the strategies of the two factions of the U.S. political class. The Republican Party has dedicated itself exclusively to serving the interests of the wealthiest individuals and big corporations. This strategy requires 99% of the the population to pay taxes without getting anything for their money. To secure their vote under these circumstances, Richard Nixon invented his Southern Strategy: take over the white-supremacist portfolio formerly owned by the Dixiecrats and pander to bigotry, prejudice and dislike of minorities under the guise of law and order. Five decades of increasing dependence on this strategy, coupled with vote suppression, ruthless gerrymandering, and a steady diet of Fox News, have yielded a Republican base that is maximally nativist, paranoid, and xenophobic.
The Democrats, meanwhile, decided around the time of Ronald Reagan’s second term that they wanted in on the gravy train of sweet, sweet donor money that the Republicans had always enjoyed. So they targeted policies that would appeal to professionals, smaller corporations and some of the less feral wealthy — about the top 10% of earners in the population. The Dems muted their support for labour unions and socially progressive policies generally, becoming the party of ending welfare as we know it and endless policy compromise with increasingly uncompromising Republicans, in return for a flow of electioneering cash and comfy post-electoral careers for themselves and their hangers-on. This so-called Third Way came gussied up with rhetoric about colourblindness and inclusion — the infamous ‘virtue signalling’ — intended to distract attention from the fact when it came to actual policy, the Democrats were as dedicated to serving their own donors (and their money) as the Republicans were to the top 1%. On crucial issues like health care, the Democrats have had nothing to offer an increasingly desperate populace, whether native or any description of immigrant, except useless neoliberal kludges like Obamacare. That strategy worked for them… until it didn’t.
Meanwhile — and I can’t emphasize this enough — Barack Obama deported more people than any president before him, and instituted other policies that Trump is now getting the blame (or credit) for as well. So… the Democratic Party “wants to bring as many Mexicans and Central Americans as possible across the border, by any means necessary, to fortify its future voter base”? Are you kidding me, Jim? Get your head out of your fever swamp.
Excellent summation of the voter screw-fest AKA the two party system in this realm.
Parliament of Whores indeed.
The notion that the Democratic Party is targeting maximum immigration in order to secure its future voter base smells to me of the purest bullshit, whiffed straight out of some right-wing media CAFO.
/ I stopped reading there. You are an idiot.
Look at the ‘sea change’ USA has gone thru since the summer of ’65, courtesy of JJ and ES.
You are a liar or a fool. Or both.
And I thought the air was hot out here!
You have NAILED IT here, Elrond!
@Hubbtard,
>>> Meanwhile — and I can’t emphasize this enough — Barack Obama deported more people than any president before him
True. Here’s Obama’s explanation…
The American people are a welcoming and generous people. But those who enter our country illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of law. And because we live in an age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Americans are right to demand better border security and better enforcement of the immigration laws.
And if you’re searching for a word to describe excoriating Trump for saying and doing the same things Obama said and did, that word is: hypocrisy. You’ll find it in the dictionary next to liberalism (they’re synonymous).
I don’t know what fishing hole in Canada you’ve been boinking for the last decade, but USA Dems officially cast their lot with “Diversity” long ago. It is, according to their party platform, “our greatest strength.” You heard that right. It’s not scientists or veterans or institutions or the Constitution or anything else. It’s diversity, by which Dems mean anyone who isn’t white or of European descent.
The Dems read the demographic tea leave and realized that if the status quo continues, whites will eventually be a minority. And so they’re hastening to get to that point by ingratiating themselves with immigrants while simultaneously selling out Americans and American culture at every opportunity. Forget about Mexicans; Hillary wanted to import tens of thousands of Muslims direct from stone-age Syria! The Dems blocked Trump from issuing the same travel ban that Obama had in place. Meanwhile, thousands of DACA recipients have arrest records, and some are even accused murderers, yet Dems won’t allow a single one to be deported.
Yes you are correct: While Obama preached tolerance and one-world kumbaya, he deported with the best of them. Liberals meanwhile fawned in their millions over Obama’s mellifluous words. And that’s because liberals are essentially children, and go wherever the baby carriage is pushed. Obama understood that he was dealing with children, and that a little sugar helps the bitter medicine go down. Trump would do well to emulate his predecessor. Pacify liberals with babytalk and rock them to sleep. Beguile them with sock puppets and shiny baubles. Just don’t expect them to outgrow their poopy-pants any time soon.
Deport thousands, bring in millions. Confuse All while the Agenda moves forward. Obama was and is a Master at what he does. So is Trump for our side. If indeed he is on our side. He may well be meandering around someplace in the middle. Although a Master of Oratory and Strategy, he has a confused world view. Obama on the other hand, knows exactly what he believes and why.
Very good, Elrond.
Money begets power and power begets mo’ money! Round and round we go until events get far too serious for these shenanigans to continue, at which eventuality they’ll cast about for friends and escape hatches. (Those will be far and few between and their former high profile will be a distinct liability.)
Hopefully, your explanation of the false front of “The Third Way” will open a few eyes in the heads of the less doctrinaire. …The choir does need a reminder from time to time. 😉
“So… the Democratic [sic] Party “wants to bring as many Mexicans and Central Americans as possible across the border, by any means necessary, to fortify its future voter base”? Are you kidding me, Jim? Get your head out of your fever swamp.” — Elrond Hubbard
You think there’s no calculation in that? Why would there not be? Any normal person can understand there’s calculation involved. And if you say, yes but it will alienate existing voters, I would respond, which ones? They’ve already lost the old base of blue-collar Democrats. Remember? Those jobs that went bye-bye in the razing of the Industrial heartland. So now, what do they have to lose?
Periodically, one realizes that the pejoratives “stupid” and “evil” to describe the two parties is, depending on context, interchangeable.
Personally, I believe that the globalists are flooding America and many other prosperous nations with stone age primitives to keep the working slobs busy fighting for their lives so that they do not have to time to concentrate on the political scum that have sold us all out for great profit!
No one has that kind of control, Walter B, not at any level. What people with power do instead is keep an eye on the weather, stake out the points of greatest leverage, then push this way or that as best they can. Whereas my answer to Tate is: Change always happens. Always. On some scale, we’re all at the mercy of events. A more important question is how much harm you’re prepared to do, to how many people, because of how much you dislike that change.
On a related subject, big news today: a 28-year-old Latina, who a year ago was waiting tables, has just upset one of the biggest, fattest cats in the Democratic Party. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has just staked out a point of leverage. Wonder which way she’ll push?
Oh no, EH. There is indeed One who has such control, especially over we easily duped, pathetic humans. And he is armed with an intellect that cranks out10 times the power that we simple, stupid creatures produce. It’s not fair, really….
>>> No one has that kind of control, Walter B, not at any level.
During Hillary’s failed bid for the Presidency, she promised that she would significantly increase Syrian Muslim refugees. And—yes—she would have had the statutory power to do it, just as Trump has the statutory power to ban all travel from Syria to the USA, now affirmed by the highest court in the land.
Some relevant links.
Jewish Columnist Says Neo-Nazi Was Right About Immigration !
In a June 26, 2018 article in Taki’s Magazine, David Cole, Jewish author & right-wing gadfly, says that basically, way back in 1992, the governments of Germany & Canada, had planted agents provocateur within Neo-Nazi circles in Germany & Canada in order to discredit & downplay concerns about mass immigration into those countries. The governments at that time were actively denying that this would ever happen. He recounts his personal experiences with all the key people involved.
http://takimag.com/article/dontcha_just_hate_it_when_the_neo_nazis_are_right_david_cole#axzz5JZz85F2p
His point is that the Left plays the Long Game, the Right not so much (actually not at all.) This is why there has been a slow retreat by the Right in the face of Leftist victories for decades.
And now Trump, who shoots from the lip on a daily basis. How can this not end well?
kunstler.com is a tremendous resource. One of the rare places that people from the left and right come together to ridicule each other, but in a civil manner.
Probably should call it kumbaya.com! (any way to do one of those smiley faces here?)
Right on, Jim. Your criticism of the Republicans is well deserved.
I’ve mentioned the perils of Democracy more than once lately.
With that in mind, let me also mention a book by Stephen Greenblatt called “Tyrant, Shakespeare on Politics” just reviewed in the NYT.
Stephen is anti-Trump. Here’s a taste:
“Under what circumstances, Shakespeare asked himself, do the cherished institutions of a free society, seemingly deep rooted and impregnable, suddenly prove fragile? Why do large numbers of people knowingly accept being lied to?”
“Drawing on an indifference to the truth, shamelessness and hyper inflated self-confidence, the loud mouthed demagogue is entering into a fantasyland—‘When I am King, as King I will be’…
Not to be confused with, “When I am King you will be first against the wall”.
But Trump strikes again with belligerent bravado. No judges, no courts for illegal crossers.
MAGA not MAKA
Just in: https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-g-pam-bondi-says-wont-bullied-confronted-mister-rogers-movie-155416064.html
It’s like the Archdruid just wrote, one thing the “resistance” might try, because to date they haven’t tried it, is to ask why so many people voted for Trump. Why were they so desperate for change that hundreds of counties that previously voted twice for Obama switched their votes?
Well, I think it’s hoping for a lot. I think that they’ll go down the same rutted donkey-path of excuse-making because it takes so much mental effort to chart a new course. They’ll say it was racism and stupidity. They’ll say it was Russian interference. They’ll do everything but correctly assess the situation and then offer the voters something that might change their circumstances.
See, the Archdruid is correct about this too: the “resistance” supports policies that caused Trump voters real hardship. That’s why Trump is in power. So long as the “resistance” resists understanding this simple fact, the “resistance” will lose.
I think the resistance understands those facts perfectly well. They just expect Trump supporters to roll over and take it because that’s the way it’s supposed to be. “Progress,” don’t ya know. The resistance isn’t just or even primarily stupid. What they are first and foremost is arrogant and entitled.
We can hope they understand these facts. If it’s arrogance well, they’ve obviously forgotten that those whom that the Gods would destroy they first make proud. No, seriously, it’s as much a law as the laws of thermodynamics or Einstein’s e= emcee squared. How many times have we seen it? How many times have we seen aristocracies bite the dust at the hands of those the aristocrats thought their inferiors? The French Revolution, the Russian revolution in 1917, the Chinese revolution in the 1940s, and then Korea and Vietnam and the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. You can make the case that it was likewise with the rise of Hitler as many of the German nobility and elite despised the goofy little man. But why did he rise to power if not for the suffering of so many Germans? The point is that arrogance seldom serves the arrogant, it makes them under-estimate other people.
Hubris is a powerful drug! Very hard to resist!
The little goof won had already won the Iron Cross in WW1. They were fools to discount him, especially anyone who had heard him speak for 30 seconds.
I hope so. Dilly! Dilly!
Look here to observe modern economic complexities:
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/harley-davidson-shows-unintended-consequences-trumps-tariffs-154313192.html
Trump won Wisconsin in 2016. Voters may, may I say, vote against their economic self interests believing that Trump is trying to do the right thing.
Harley’s been on the skids for some time now, regardless. Their aging baby boomer demographic is now dying off and/or past the age of recreational motorcycle toy use. The youth are not so enamored of their aging “mystique.” My dad bought a Harley trophy a few years before he checked out. Got one rather miserable long ride out of it before he consigned it to a suitable trophy spot in the barn. Heard they’re making retro bicycles now too, of all things!
The old guy demographic is changing. Young kids zipping around on Yamahas, Suzukis, and Hondas. But Harley still has about 60% of women riders.
https://www.complex.com/sports/2012/09/25-pictures-of-beautiful-women-on-harleys/
I am very thankful for your willingness to take on “immigration”. It has been 50 years of frustrating nonsense in my view. It has always been manageable, like other countries do it, by requiring a work visa to be paid. I have worked overseas. It is not difficult. You make a request, you get a visa, you get paid, you get some of your taxes back because you are a guest and cannot take advantage of the lifetime medical benefits or retirement plan.
The enforcement is the requirement that all workers get paid into a bank account. You go to the bank, show your id and work permit, get an account and then the employer can pay you. All taxes are taken out and a percentage returned. You can add the requirement that all guest workers have a local address registered with the police department. The mayor can then provide a list to anyone interested of the number of guest workers in his community. There are no “illegal workers”.
Now I realize many American citizens will hire their fellow countrymen but they would have to do it all “off the books”. And it would be illegal. They could be fined and imprisoned. So if a Puerto Rican crew chief for a roofing company is supervising 8 illegal roofers he and his company could be prosecuted, fined, and imprisoned or maybe even lose HIS green card. So if we want to discuss “asset forfeiture” we could make the consequences bad enough for any potential business and profitable enough for any enforcement.
This has been known and possible for 50 years. We have even complicated it by allowing illegal immigrants to register their children in school and treating them in emergency rooms. Illegal workers may even qualify for food subsidies.
The DHS had a budget last year of $70 B. That includes 53 programs from Coast Guard to ICE to FEMA to Secret Service. If Trump can throw an additional $80B at the DOD they don’t even want I think we can scrounge up the commitment to do what is necessary to make everything work seamlessly from courts to hearings, to determinations, to deportations, to a total number of immigrants we set each year and have our representatives vote on to ensure they are doing what we want. We can welcome the new citizens and tell everybody else to go home.
” Let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer but the right answer. Let us not seek to fix the blame for the past. Let us accept our own responsibility for the future.”
President John F. Kennedy
Wedge isues, such as immigration, are creating a great divide with no bridge accross in our country. Statemanship, introspection, critical thinking, compromise and civility have now taken a backseat to name-calling, threats, gaslighting and dog whistling to the base. Winter is coming and our nation is facing huge heretofore unseen problems. Contrary to popular opinion, fiat currencies have mathmatically determined shelf-lives.
Hassling someone you do not agree with when they are out to dinner with their family doesn’t result in open lines of communication. Pushing this pracrice is bad for America no matter which side, if any, you are on.
BTW, America, if we want the world to be a better place and want to reduce the number of asylum seekers at the southern border, QUIT USING DOPE!
And QUIT WAGING WAR!
That’s true too Scratch!
The fallacy and danger in the pursuit of of the “Holy Grail” of weapons:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpiZTvlWx2g
The world is a complex place and those that want or sell fast cheap solutions deserve despise.
Having compassion for the less fortunate is a laudable thing. The problem is, there are a billion less fortunate souls on the planet who would move to the USA tomorrow if they could.
In continuation of Western Colored Projects…
In a meantime, the Western Colored Projects are trying to unite on the basis of the opposition to Putin’s Russia, or rather, Russian Orthodoxy, on which Putin is trying to rely.
They unfairly call Russian Orthodoxy “Russian Orthodox fascism”, consciously confusing Fascism and Nazism. The main idea of this confusion is that Putin’s attitude to the two main markers of the Colored Projects – the attitude toward the Church and the attitude toward Jews – is really very similar to the attitude to these markers of Mussolini if, at the crossroads of the cultural border between West and East, replace the Russian Orthodox Church with Roman Catholicism, and Hasidim with Italian Jewry, which turned out to be the only surviving part of European Jewry in the Holocaust.
And immediately the recent events become clear.
As you know, the March begun with Putin’s address to the federal assembly, in which Putin described Russia’s decisive military advantage, which it acquired in recent years. Unlike the black as death Russian liberals, Blacks in the West reacted with all seriousness to Putin’s words and immediately tried to unite the Reds of Anglo-Saxon civilizations personified in this anti-Russian alliance by Boris Johnson and the Blacks personified by Theresa May.
This is evident from the fact that Boris Johnson supported Brexit, and Theresa May was one of the main fighters against Brexit, and becoming Prime Minister sabotaged it. And here is the case of the Scripals, and they run in the same harness, trying to overthrow Putin, who has completely lost it in his address to the Federal Assembly.
It is important to understand that the case of the Scripals is an attempt to unite in the anti-Russian push the Western world, which has split as a result of Brexit and the elections in the US, which Trump won.
But if Brexit could be “treated” by the union of Boris and Theresa, then it is impossible to say about elections in the US. And Trump refused to support Boris and Theresa in their crusade, until the rest of Europe joined them, which shows Trump’s attitude to Russia – he sympathizes with Orthodoxy and Putin while the united West does not stand against them and gives way to anti-Christian pressure if his sympathies can lead to loss to him and his party of the White House.
When I lived in Texas, I met plenty of Hispanics that were as right wing as I am. These people work their tails off, generally speaking. Work hard enough in America and you will be successful. Once you are, you will never vote Democrat again. They’re the party of failure and failures. Everything they touch turns to crap. This will, too.
QUIT USING DOPE!
QUIT WAGING WAR!
This content board is full of people spouting empty platitudes. By calling immigration a “wedge issue,” they insinuate that it is so minor that it could easily be resolved if only people were more “reasonable” (like them, one assumes.)
Immigration is a “wedge issue” in the same way that chattel slavery was a “wedge issue” to a certain clique in 1860.
Oh it’s Tate the sniper always on the attack! An internet tough guy name caller with nothing but racist takes! What a man!
… shouts Buck Pee.
Non sequitur.
Yo, Kunstler-meister, wrt:
“Bill Maher could easily get his wish of an economic crisis before many more months go by.”
Here’s what Maher later said:
“And finally, new rule, anyone who went apeshit over the last two weeks because I said going through a recession would be worth it if it undermined Trump’s popularity has to enroll in college and take a course in perspective,”
“A recession is a survivable event. What Trump is doing to this country is not…Democracy is about to go the way of the dinosaurs because we’ve been taken over by a dodo bird…So let me repeat: Recessions are survivable events. We survive one every time a Republican is in the White House. It’s true. Every Republican president since Teddy Roosevelt has presided over a recession.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/393781-maher-doubles-down-a-recession-is-a-survivable-event-trump-is-not
Trump has saved us. The Left wants Democracy on their own terms, provocative confrontation and violence included along with an antipathy towards Whites and their “privilege”.
Democracy should be suspended if that’s the only way to stop the invasion of foreign hordes. Defer Democracy. Save the nation.
Hail the Grandiose Galahad of Gotham!
MAGA not MAKA
” Recessions are survivable events”
njguy,
So is rape, mugging, venereal disease, and pederasty…Maher’s spin notwithstanding.
elysianfield, you tell that to someone who was raped, molested, or mugged. I lived through recessions, as did millions of people. You think any one of them would trade living through a recession for being raped, molested, or mugged?
Or tell that to the millions who buried someone who succumbed to AIDS.
AIDS is only a venereal disease due to unnatural practices.
NJ,
I would tell them that they are VICTIMS, same as those suffering through, and surviving a recession, which for some was existential. Maher’s comment was spin…a cheap attempt to deflect criticism of a stupid, emotional comment.
The headline read, “The uncivil war has broken out”. A certain foreboding ring to it as prelude to civil.
Let her harangue hasten the hit back that she and her Leftist goons will so deserve.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/07f34192-7d65-3833-bb40-9bcba26f2cc4/donald-trump-can%27t-destroy.html
Did Pol Pot’s egalitarianism go too far?
Recycling is garbage because the Chinese don’t want it anymore. So it’s piling up. There is no answer except to set the world on fire like St Peter said. A Divine Fire that will renew all things.
Why is there no answer?
The UK is much less good at recycling than its European neighbours, but it has its own recycling plants and there will be more since the refusal of China to take everyone’s rubbish. I’m sure you’ll have more too, as time goes on.
However, your problem is of a different magnitude. As I’ve mentioned before, you have 5% of the world’s population but you produce half of its solid waste, which gives you a massive margin for (a) consuming less stuff, (b) buying it not wrapped in unnecessary packaging, and (c) not using packaging that can’t be recycled. And governments need to outlaw packaging materials that can’t be recycled, where there are viable alternatives. To some extent they do, increasingly, but not enough.
People, not least on this website, keep talking about responsibility. If you buy something, it’s your responsibility to dispose of it responsibly and, if it costs money to do that, it’s your responsibility to pay for it.
Example: If I need to dispose of a microwave oven, I can’t put it in the household waste (quite rightly). We have on-street shared rubbish and recycling bins in my street and I once saw a microwave in the waste bin, put there by someone who doesn’t realise it was their choice to buy a microwave and therefore entirely their responsibility to deal with its proper disposal. You have to pay the council for a ‘special uplift’ to do that – likewise with any large item not suitable for putting in the bin (they’ll take six items for the same cost, which is only about £20)..
Tough. Pay for it or don’t buy the stuff.
I don’t mean you, obviously. I’m assuming you practise what you preach in these matters.
And of course if they have a car, they just need to take a trip to the recycling centre with their microwave. Since I don’t, I have to pay the council on the extremely rare occasions that I throw anything like that out.
Or I save stuff up and hire a car for a couple of hours, then invite my daughter to give me anything she might have, so that it’s all done in one trip.
It’s about organisation. But mostly it’s about personal responsibility.
The Women-in-the-Military escapade may be another example of the law of unintended consequences? It may have started out as a bold thrust towards equality, but ended up as a weird “Sex Thang”? Is the female soldier-in-uniform Thang a fetish?
Chick-lit meets battlefield memoir in Love My Rifle More Than You: Young and Female in the US Army, the title taken from a marching song.
Her prose is uncompromising. “Sex is the key to any woman soldier’s experiences in the American military,” the first line reads. “No one likes to acknowledge it, but there’s a strange sexual allure to being a woman and a soldier.” Elsewhere she writes: “I love my M4 [light machine gun], the smell of it, of cleaning fluid, of gunpowder: the smell of strength. Gun in your hands, and you’re in a special place. I’ve come to look forward to that.”
I admire Putin because Putin is clever and strong, and he protects his people like Sitting Bull.
“After the Soviet collapse, this immunity against American contagion disappeared. Western “experts” and “advisors” flooded in, and proposed “reforms” such as dismemberment of the USSR into 15 separate countries (trapping millions of people on the wrong side of some newly thought-up border) shock therapy (which impoverished almost the entirety of the Russian population), privatization (which put major public assets in the hands of a few politically connected, mostly Jewish oligarchs) and various other schemes designed to destroy Russia and drive its population into extinction. They would probably have succeeded had they not been stopped in time.”
There is hot news on the Culture Conflict Escalation front!
Laura Ingalls Wilder of “Little House On The Praire” fame is RAYCISS! according to the Library Association Sevice FOr CHildren. It is so toxic that an award named for the author, who was born in 1867 and lived for 90 years, has been replaced by the organization and renamed The Children’s Legacy Literature Award.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5883031/Laura-Ingalls-Wilders-REMOVED-childrens-literature-honor-depiction-blacks.html
I’m going to invest in some firefighter bunker gear as I cannot wait for the book burnings to begin. Coming to a library near you.
I cannot comprehend how the liberal establishment perceives that further polarization will end well for them. At some point this argument turns bloody and very well could lead to civil war. When you consider that the left as done everything in their power to demonize members of law enforcement, the military and the armed civilian population,(some 50 million Americans) how exactly do the think this will play out in their favor? The consequences of a civil war today would make the first one look like a minor skirmish. You would think that that just the mere fact that there are some 350 million firearms in public hands would be significant motive for the establishment media to do everything in their power to prevent an internecine conflict from occurring in this country.
I’m wondering, does the current administration’s demonizing of the FBI count? Also, how did Mueller, who has had a stellar background of service, whose reputation in Washington DC was impeccable right up to the time of his appointment to investigate Trump, suddenly become the evil demon incarnate?. I hate the Democrats & Republicans equally, so I’ve got no skin in the game. I’m just asking.
Mueller’s hardly as pure as the driven snow:
http://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/371206-robert-muellers-forgotten-surveillance-crime-spree
The media’s just united in anointing him because he’s after Trump.
Something else I’m wondering about: John Galt was the only reply to my post above, and I replied back to him. Now I see that Galt’s post and my reply have been deleted, and a comment by Ol Scratch appears in their place. What gives?
Welll………..unless you made a spelling or grammar correction it couldn’t be that.
I can assure you I didn’t exercise any demonic magic, if that’s what you’re getting at.
Politics and partisanship, extremism in other words, mixed with the in-your-face attributes of (anti)social networks, and their symbiotic relationship with corporate advertisement mediums (AKA: news media) is the recipe for disaster of this country.
And politics is everywhere. Everywhere.
It has seeped in and stained all aspects of American life from over-roasted coffee shops, to sports, to late night TV (does anyone actually watch this crap?), to weekend casual dining.
Because politics is the spin that hooks. It’s the click-bait. It’s the instinct bait. Us vs. them. Pick a side.
The nation is gone.
Long gone.
It’s black or white.
With us or against us.
R vs. D (how seriously sad and absurd it is to have to choose one of these sides)
But you do.
Virtual signaling via facecrooktwattergram reigns supreme.
And everyone is part of the problem.
It’s time to cast politics out.
Americans have lost religion, but not the passion for extremism.
The empty void that unites the American experience must be filled.
The Democratic agenda is mostly the corporate agenda. There are some liberals among the corporatists insofar as this fraction of the elite are less reluctant to spread around some of the income if it keeps the rabble in line. One aspect of the corporate agenda is short term thinking. Allowing vast numbers of immigrants across the border in the hope that in a decade or so they’ll be eligible to vote seems inconsistent with their short term outlook. In the intervening years the Republicans could stuff the courts, sell off any number of assets, and turn over the running of the regulatory agencies to any loyal, if incompetent, bureaucrat. Yes, the Republicans could do all that and more, but would the Democrats really care? I don’t think so. What both parties are worried about is who’s in charge.
In the near term it seems to be pro-immigrant, legal or otherwise, is seen to be sufficiently anti-Trump to inspire disaffected Republicans to switch sides and vote Democrat. Perhaps the strategy is based on the idea that it’s easier to get a voter to switch sides rather than motivate a disinterested nonvoter to go to the polls. There were easily enough potential voters in the last go-round to keep Trump out of the presidency. Those who have abandoned electoral politics don’t seem to matter to either party. The fence sitters who do vote matter the most. It’s come down to a contest between Coke and Pepsi, Ford and Chevrolet, Tide and All. The differences between the brands are as trivial as the differences between the candidates. By offering near identical choices it’s easier to persuade potential crossover voters to jump ship. Or maybe it’s more like cross the street. Or sidestep six inches in the detergent aisle.
The immigration issue is equally trivial. In actual fact, the numbers attempting to cross the border are down just as the US economy is faltering. A nontrivial fraction of them appear to have legitimate claims for asylum. They should be let in on principle considering much of their hardship originates in Washington, D.C. This latest media circus boils down to virtue posturing in the form of ‘the proof of my hatred of Trump is my love for immigrants.’ The hypocrisy lies in the failure to mention what drives these people to leave their homelands and face the uncertainty of surviving long enough to risk not being granted asylum. It’s the political system in the US that’s behind this whole mess and neither side of the aisle is ready or willing to do anything about that. A permanent and just fix for the immigration problem would start a crack in the system and there’s no telling where it might lead. If we examined the US foreign policy that backs coups and bombs civilians some pretty big players would get very upset. Their markets for weapons and sources of important minerals would be threatened. Worse still, their stock prices could take a hit.
I really don’t care how many people come over the border for work or asylum. It would be nice if there were none seeking asylum, but that’s not realistic while the US wants to play empire. So let them cross over to pick tomatoes or swing a hammer. They’re actually a net benefit to the economy. It’s probably another net benefit to treat them nicely while they’re here. Trade policies that allow small scale farmers in Central America to make a go of it instead of forcing them off their land would be another good idea.
To sum it up, the political elites in the US are making a mess of things as they always have. One faction of them is using the latest kerfuffle as a bludgeon against the other in the hope of getting a few voters to switch sides. Neither side has any interest in fixing the problem as it would undermine their power. Meanwhile, the looting of the commonweal continues.
Immigrants are mostly about diluting the labor pool (thus reducing wages and benefits across the board) in the short term. The political payoffs come much later.
As you know a lot of people have been crossing illegally into Canada as refugees particularly on the border between Quebec and New York.
This is how we deal with that.
1. Right at the point of crossing they are told by the RCMP that if they come into Canada they will be detained and there is no guarantee that they will be allowed to stay long term and they may be eventually deported.
2 If they insist on entering they are taken into custody and transferred to a processing center where as much information as possible about them is documented.
3. In a short time they are given a place to live along with some money. Of course there is a whole system that guides them in order to get them settled.
4. This the crucial part .I’ll explain why further down.If they have children they are immediately enrolled in a french language school.
5. Adults are helped to find a job or as in many cases where language is a problem they are enrolled in classes to learn french. With time most integrate into the local society.
The reason no. 4 is so important goes like this. Quebec is no less racist or xenophobic than anywhere else but something soothing happens when immigrants begin to use the local language and absorb local customs. Within a generation or less their children have become indistinguishable from the rest of Quebec society. We have been using this approach for a while now and the visible minority has gradually but surely become accepted. When we hear a person of color speak and act like us, skin tone doesn’t matter much. Blacks and orientals SOUND like us so they must be like us so there is nothing to be afraid of.
Yeah, so what if their IQ is 30 points lower? As long as they speak FRENCH….!
“Something soothing happens” maybe because they are currently docile and capable of being manipulated.
What about later, when their numbers are much larger and they want more of what you have?
How soothing will it be when they stick it up your ass?
Theresa May’s deep curtsey “Novichok”
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/crazy_reader/16852255/514783/514783_600.jpg
https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d514f32517a4d78457a6333566d54/share_p.html
She just can’t quit doing it, can she?
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/crimsonalter/13842643/167939/167939_1000.jpg
Regarding the system of Social Elevators
It is necessary to achieve a cultural growth of society that would ensure to all members of society the full development of their physical and mental abilities so that members of society have the opportunity to get an education sufficient to become active participant in social development so that they can freely choose a profession, and not be chained for life, by virtue of the existing division of labor, into one profession.
What is required for this? It would be wrong to think that such a serious cultural growth of members of society can be achieved without major changes in the current situation with labor. To do this, we must first reduce the working day at least to 6, and then to 5 hours.
This is necessary for the members of the society to have enough free time, which is crucial for obtaining comprehensive education. To do this, it is necessary, furthermore, to introduce compulsory poly-technical training, which will enable the members of the society to be free to choose their profession and not to be confined to one profession for life.
To do this, further, radically improve the housing conditions and raise the real wages of workers and employees at least twice, if not more, both by direct increase in the monetary compensation, and, especially, by further systematic reduction of prices for consumer goods.
Joseph Stalin, “The economic problems of socialism in the USSR”, 1952
99% what Americans “know” about the History of the World, and, more importantly, about their own history, is a pure fucking propaganda.
That’s probably true for most countries, but it is indeed especially true for the US. No surprise then, since our “full spectrum dominant” marketing system has long since led the world. As has been said (Jackson Browne), war is marketed “the same way they sell us our clothes and our cars;” war now being “full spectrum” as well, in that it’s waged on the powerless everywhere, including within US borders, regardless of age, ethnicity, sex, or any other factor you care to name.
The Dynamic of the world prices in the first 5 years after the end of the WWII (1951) as percent of the corresponding price right after the war (1946):
Bread: USSR – 39%, US – 128%, England -190%, France – 208%
Butter: USSR – 42%, US – 126%, England -135%, France – 188%
Meat: USSR – 37%, US – 104%, England -225%, France – 192%
Sugar: USSR – 49%, US – 106%, England -233%, France – 370%
The idea of “social elevators” is a cruel, idealistic joke. No card carrying member of an elite under any hierarchical system currently devised would ever support it, as it directly threatens the power they’ve worked so hard to acquire. And it’s not at all clear that every society would be capable of implementing it in the first place. Regardless, no major country on the world stage today would ever countenance such a thing, other than purely as a new age marketing strategy (Obama, anyone?).
It’s been working in England – System of English Grammar schools, it’s been working in the USSR – quality free competitive (rigorous exams) education with system of scientific Olympiads and special “grammar” schools at leading colleges for gifted students from anywhere in Russia (I am, for one, a beneficiary of such system), I believe for some time it’s been working in US as well – you should know better about that.
If by “elevators” you mean moving up from the bottom rungs to the lower white collar working class (an exceedingly high risk place to be, as well), then yes, there are some instances of that, but it’s almost always accompanied by a fair to large amount of student debt in the process, with many who take on that debt in the hopes of moving up finding out the hard way that it was a high risk gamble that might never pay off. As for cracking the higher levels in the corporate sphere, that pretty much exclusively goes to the sons and daughters and friends and acquaintances of the elite, just as it always has. The cruelest joke of all however, is finding out not only how pricey the education was, but how worthless the education was in real terms in the first place. I can honestly say that I was better prepared to enter the workforce immediately after retiring from the USAF than I was after wasting two more years seeking a meaningless credential.
“retiring from the USAF”
Nick O Demus,
MOS?
I did not pay a single Red Kopeck for my education, on the contrary, the better my marks were the higher stipend I got.
https://i.ucoin.net/coin/2/274/2274170-1/ussr-1-kopek-1986.jpg
elysianfield,
F-16 Avionics Maintenance, with some squadron level budget management tacked on at the end. I wouldn’t recommend the military generally now, due the horrific operational tempo they’re subjected to, but as far as practical problem solving goes, they should be running the damn country, at least as of at the time of my retirement. The corporation mentality was already infiltrating them at that time however, so I would imagine they’re a basket case by now too.
Finca
Grammar schools in England aren’t what they used to be, although Theresa May’s government is trying very hard to sell them as if they were and have more of them. They’re very popular among middle-class parents (M-C in the British sense) who would like a way of getting their kids into a ‘good’ school without paying for private education.
I went to a grammar school (in England) when they were the social elevators you suggest. So people from backgrounds like mine got to the same schools as our social betters by passing the 11+ exam. And we went on to become the first generation of our families to go to university (where less than 10% of school leavers went in the first place at that time). Britain needed a bigger cohort of middle managers, engineers, teachers, doctors etc. for an expanding economy after the war, hence the grammars.
All the other kids who didn’t pass the exam (i.e. who didn’t get into the top x percent – and there was no course work, so you could just have an off day and fail) were written off at age 11 as failures and went to the Secondary Modern schools to be hewers of wood and drawers of water (although many of them did fine and some still got to university).
Mine was a ‘direct grant’ school, which means kids who failed the 11+ but were just bright enough to pass the school’s internal exam could go to the school as fee-paying pupils. Those of us who’d passed the 11+ were paid for by a direct grant from public funds. You could argue we might have been held back by those better off but less able (maybe half the class) that we shared our classes with, but it didn’t occur to us at the time!
Anyway, in 1976, my tiny school and others which were ‘direct grant’ (including Manchester Grammar, which you mentioned previously), were made to choose to go entirely private or to go comprehensive with all the other grammar and secondary modern schools. Manchester Grammar and mine went private (‘independent’) – I expect most did, but I don’t know. I left in 1975, so had no personal experience of comprehensives until I taught in them and my kids went to one.
Nowadays, grammar schools in the public sector are generally to be found in comfortable middle-class areas and you get into them, unless you’re exceptionally bright, by your parents (a) being able to afford a house in the area and (b) spending lots of money on private tutoring to get you through the entrance exams. The parents find this a good investment, as it’s cheaper than a private school (and you’ve still got the house at the end!).
You can also get your child into a nice Church of England school by pretending you’re Christian, notably by going to C of E church services for a sufficient period, looking interested and, presumably, making sure the vicar knows who you are.
For comprehensives, it’s what you’d expect, only worse. In Scotland, there is a premium of anything up to 50% on the prices of houses in the catchment areas of the good ones. The single most important factor in the UK in determining the long-term achievement of children has for some time been the income of their parents.
Back in Scotland, round the corner from my street (which is nice but not posh) is a slightly less posh street – still OK but the flats are cheaper. However, they’re still overpriced, probably by about 20%, because they’re in the catchment area of the school my kids went to (when we lived elsewhere and before the situation got so bad), which is one of the two best council schools in the city. It’s oversubscribed – it’s just been rebuilt on a new site and it’s already far too small for the demand within the area. Wealthy people who live further out, but in catchment areas of less good schools, buy flats in that street, but don’t live there (they may rent them out), just to have a postal address that will get their kids into the good school.
You can never beat the folks with money. Sadly, my own grandson doesn’t live in the catchment of a good secondary school, although his primary school seems fine, and, unless I win the lottery (or my OH and I both die), he’s unlikely to by the time he’s 12. Such is life.
I haven’t mentioned the Catholic schools, as this is long enough already, but I’ve taught in some, as they let us non-RCs teach and get as far as head of department but no further. Definitely no ‘guidance’ classes!
Sorry, meant to say I left in 1970, not 1975, not that it matters.
The Fox and Friends team really needs to slow down and stay focused. They’re letting a lot of inaccurate statements go uncorrected.
This morning a reporter who had interviewed a group of anarchists who want to abolish ICE claimed that he got one of the anarchists to agree with Donald Trump. According to the reporter, the anarchist wants a nation without borders, which is what Trump also wants.
WRONG!! Trump says a country without borders is not a country. That’s the exact opposite of what the anarchist wants.
It’s not clear whether the Fox reporter understands anything about immigration policy or not, but no one among the three on the Fox and Friends team bothered to correct this glaring error. Very disappointing. Slow down guys, and think before you speak.
…incidentally, right after the interview, the reporter’s account got a boost of a couple hundred thousand…
Elrond Hubbard your description of the two parties is as close to reality as one will find here. I would just add they have joined together as a burgulary team. Depending on the neighborhood they are working a Republican stands at the front door feeding the voter some bullshit propaganda while Democrat sacks the house and walks out the back door. In another neighborhood the Democatat is at the front door.
A question.
Why do people who quote statistics on black on black murder believe they can start a shooting gallery and people of color won’t shoot back?
Anyone who thinks that what happened in Watts and Detroit can’t happen in white districts has just not kept up with the trajectory of incomes in our economic classes.
Check the population numbers for 1860 and 2018, look at the difference in how the population is settled, look at the number of firearms in the population and finally look at the level of diviseness among citizens at the two points in history. When this information is considered look at the death toll from the American Civil War. I would ask everyone to dial the rhetoric back a couple of notches. The only winners will be those flying out of private airports on private planes to continue their lives of luxury and wait it out should this tinderbox ignite.
remember the public safety commercial – “Bob was right, dead right.”
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The supposed protection “in the gated suburbs” is a joke. There are not enough cops to patrol the suburbs to protect the residents, and the gates and walls are a psychological joke. If the bad guys wanted to cross the barriers, wel there really is no barrier. So if protection is not the answer, why are the suburbs quieter? I will suggest one big reason, drug distribution and use are very quietly swept under the rug in the suburbs. The suburbs are destinations, the violent fight for control of the drug routes occurs in the distribution hubs, the cities. Cut off the drug supply, i.e. “Build the Wall” and the situation will deteriorate quickly. Maybe one of the reasons why the drug trade is not messed with much. Yet!
Quite frankly, John, that’s a bit weird – you a saying that a well-being of the suburbs depends on the Opium War waged against the city dwellers.
Perhaps some other solution?
Nope, what I tried to say was the suburbs are the end of the distribution lines. The cities are the hubs for the distribution map. Battles for control of the drug trade will be fought in the hubs.
The suburbs ignore the problem, “my kids would never do that”.
And no, I do not believe that cutting off the supply will quiet the violence, quite the contrary. Decreased supply, increased prices will bring the devil out. I believe areas of the country known for their drug usage, such as Hollywood, are the most vocal opponents to the wall. Surprise!
Latest words of infinite wisdom handed down from the mountain, i.e., Jordan B. Peterson’s Twitter account:
“God is the mode of being you value the most as demonstrated or manifested in your presumption, perception and action.”
Well, I guess that settles it then.
He’s right in a mystical sense. Every great desire is a prayer. As the Jihadis say, Fear is a great Worship. Therefore fear God alone. Any other fear is idolatry. St Bernard, the Theologian of the Crusades, talked in a similar way, as do all mystics.
I think it’s too ‘cloud-people’ (globalist) for the rank-and-file dirt people.
Supreme Court, 5-4 for the travel ban. Another victory for the Trumpers and a loss for the Deep State. Immigration is a privilege not a right. With the law of the land unable to deport the illegals, they must be stopped before they arrive. A step in the right direction. Build the Wall.
The change necessitating the slow down of immigration is that the US opportunities are geographically and resource limited which has been partially caused by us being a destination for all the “tired and poor” of the world. Admitting an immigrant means someone legally here is hurt economically. We are running out of space, and not only us. All the reservoir nations that have been the safety valve for overpopulation are starting to try to slow down the ingress. Population control is the key, not open borders. Remember too that removing peoples from “donor” nations, removes their ability to come back from wars or natural disasters, a brain drain.
Rush: They tried to argue that Trump’s tweets prove discrimination. Just as they tried to argue that when Kerry lost, the exit polls should have been counted instead of the votes. They are infinitely flexible. Winning isn’t everything to them, it’s the only thing. Thus they tend to win over men of principle. But not today, Deo Gratias.
. Immigration is a privilege not a right.
Uh, . Immigration is a disaster, to the host nation, if its 3rd worlders moving to ‘better’ lands.
“Population control is the key, not open borders.”
You don’t need to be right wing to agree with that. It’s one of the main keys, anyway, along with the foreign policies of western governments, and efforts to limit and mitigate climate change (although that should have started long ago).
Re your next point, asylum seekers in the UK, if accepted as refugees, get leave to remain for five years and can only stay longer if the situation they fled hasn’t sufficiently improved for them to be no longer at risk. Obviously, immigrants who aren’t asylum seekers have other conditions, depending on whether they’ve accepted a job offer or are students (higher education is a major earner for the provider country).
“Admitting an immigrant means someone legally here is hurt economically.”
If you’ve admitted them, they’re not illegal. And in the NHS, for instance, they’re hurting nobody if the jobs already can’t be filled. Likewise if there’s food rotting in fields because there aren’t enough people willing to pick it.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/23/doctors-blocked-by-home-office-from-taking-up-vital-nhs-jobs
These doctors have now been given special dispensation, thankfully, but if it hadn’t been for Brexit we wouldn’t have needed them.
https://www.ft.com/content/13e183ee-c099-11e7-b8a3-38a6e068f464
So, more imported fruit or greater mechanisation – but not a flood of young Brits dying to pick fruit, until such time as there’s nothing but backbreaking work on offer.
A nation can never find a balance if the balance is always be upset by brining in economic refugees, whether high or low. If America produced a huge number of doctors or nurses, the Hospitals would then bring in Filipinos and Hindus to work for less. So then in response, Whites don’t bother anymore. Then the Elite announce in triumph, “See how lazy White Americans are!”
Simply put, yours is not the way to maintain a nation. But it is the way to destroy one as it exists in any organic or historical sense.
Janos, you are right re the nurses. The Feds have a program to bring in Filipino nurses on he cheap. And doctors? I haven’t been to a GP in years with an American name.
You must do things differently over your way. In the NHS there’s a rate for the job, on a fixed scale according to experience. So you have to pay the same to the immigrant doctor or nurse as you would to the homegrown one. Anything else would be outrageous.
Not that it bothers me either way, but the GPs at my practice are all homegrown. There used to be a German GP, but since Brexit EU doctors and nurses are staying away. One of the nurses looks possibly half Chinese, but she’s very obviously home-grown too.
GA
A lot of medicine in the US is being put into a big box format. GP groups formed into HMO’s and PPO’s a few decades ago and are continuing to merge into larger groups . Gp’s started being hired by hospitals about 20 years ago and called hospitalists. The advent of Obamacare accelerated this conversion. People who go into the hospital are covered by different doctors than their own attending doctor. The latest move is for the large hospital chains to buy up GP practices and turn them into clinics. Large scale economics make single and small practices obsolete. In the last couple of months, three megaCEO types are talking about creating huge medical care agencies (Bezos is one). This will still be private sector but at a huge scale with little competition. We are not even close to fixing this problem yet.
A lot of Medical green cards are being handed out trying to get doctors for less. Long term GPS are being forced into large scale alternatives. Might as well be nationalized!
JohnAZ
Thanks for the insight into your system. As a quid pro quo, just for information…
People think GPs in this country are public servants, but they’re not. An NHS GP practice is a private business (like yours they work in groups now – single or dual practices are unknown except out on remote islands or similar places).
The ‘partners’ have to buy into the practice and pay the salaried doctors and other staff. They are contracted to provide services to the NHS and can’t do private work on the side (which hospital consultants can), but if the practice goes under they lose their share as any other business owner would. The practice would then be taken over by the local health authority.
Very few GPs want to be partners any more. It means masses of bureaucracy, constant hassle and working long hours. It’s a thankless task and the public thinks they’re out on the golf course every afternoon spending their ill gotten gains (well, the stupider ones anyway). And GP vacancies countrywide can’t be filled. Far fewer people want to do the job and many of those who do want to work part time (primarily women).
And if other partners leave, the last one standing is liable for the redundancy payments to any remaining staff if the practice eventually goes bust.
But more and more private practices are springing up. Often they are serving the relatively wealthy (and young) who need quick service with short notice and who’d rather pay than wait for an appointment outside working hours. So these clinics are basically cherry picking the easy stuff and leaving the NHS to pick up the chronic, difficult work that doesn’t pay. They certainly don’t want geriatric care, psychiatric care or care of people with personality disorders who might be phoning the doctor every other day (the NHS also picks up any mess made by private-sector hospitals and clinics, e.g. surgery that goes wrong).
And this cherry-picked ‘business’ is what American healthcare companies will want to get their teeth into if we sign a trade deal with the US. They won’t want old or chronically sick patients either. That’ll be left to the NHS that by then won’t have the per capita allowances it receives for the young healthy folk that subsidise the old and chronically sick.
There are no easier answers. And I’m getting old at the wrong time!
There are some easy answers: Like not bringing in vast numbers of immigrants from very alien cultures when you can’t even take care of your own people.
But yes, the more terrible decisions that are made, the more complicated things become – and the more jobs available in the “helping” professions, both public and private. There are
“growth industries” – just like cancer….
“There are some easy answers: Like not bringing in vast numbers of immigrants from very alien cultures when you can’t even take care of your own people.”
It’s the people from the other cultures (who are now as British as anyone else) who do such a lot of the caring.
It is pretty clear what the Black Project in US is trying to do with mass out-of-control illegal immigration – stress the US Social Safety Net systems to the limit, arrange a cut-down in social payments to legal residents, then incite the population to the mass street protests – and after that a familiar scenario of a Colored Revolution played many times in different countries – “unknown” snipers shooting demonstrators and police alike, taking over public buildings, etc., etc.
And kids – they don’t care for no kids, of course.
They fuck them for sport.
All well underway. Whatever color you label it, the blueprint has long been well established overseas and is now being played out at home to a captive audience.
Despite hard-line rhetoric, Trump deported fewer immigrants than President Barack Obama ever did. Apprehensions in 2017 were the lowest since 1971.
Has anyone heard of a British TV series called “Call the Midwife?” I was vaguely aware of the title, nothing more. It’s based on a memoir of the same name written in 2002 by Jennifer Worth, who spent time as a midwife in the Cockney East End of London in the 1950s.
There is a review on the book at vdare.com by a George Elwit with special attention to one aspect of it. And that is, it appears that the Muslim Grooming Gangs go right back to the very beginning of the Muslim influx into Britain in the 1950s from Britain’s former territorial possessions. Elwit characterizes Ms Worth as someone who today would be considered “progressive.” He says that in today’s PC environment, Ms Worth might be considerably more circumspect in her book about what she was revealing about Muslim men’s attitudes with regard to white females & about their deeply misogynistic & psychopathic culture.
She tells the story of “Mary,” a 15-year-old runaway from Ireland who, landing penniless in the big city of London, is immediately preyed upon by “Zakir”, who befriends her only to betray her trust that very evening by getting her stumbling drunk & lined up for a serial rape by paying Muslim customers at his “uncle’s” cafe — which is actually a brothel.
Ms Worth, who worked in the East End at street level for a decade, quite innocently describes immigration as the central factor that destroyed the Cockney community:
“In the 1950s, thousands of commonwealth immigrants poured into the country with no provision made for where they were going to live.
“[There was] blatant widespread use of their streets, their alleys and closes, their shops and houses, as brothels…Life became sheer hell, and women were terrified to go out of doors, or to let their children out. The tough, resilient East Enders, who had lived through two world wars, lived through the Great Depression of the 1930s, survived the Blitz of the 1940s, and come up smiling, were to be crushed by the vice and prostitution that descended in their midst in the 1950s and ‘60s.
This is a staggering indictment of the British elites who allowed this to happen, and who still allow it to this day. There’s a lot more at the website.
Allowed? I bet they loved it. They hate their own people with unholy passion. We ALWAYS hate those whom we have wronged.
Interested it started so soon. The Police must have been instructed even then to favor the Muslims. Otherwise I assume the Cockneys would have put the fear of God into them.
Re Mary’s engorged and painful breasts being bandaged up, there’s only one other incidence of that that I remember seeing in another context. It’s never left me.
It was a conversation with a Holocaust survivor in Claude Lanzmann’s ‘Shoah’, whose baby was murdered by a Nazi ‘doctor’. You’ll remember the ‘experiments’ we know about that were carried out on Jewish prisoners in concentration camps by doctors from hell. Aryan ones.
In this instance, the ‘doctor’ wanted to find out how long it would take for this woman’s newborn baby to die if deprived of milk from its mother, who was standing by in anguish listening to it crying until it died, with milk dripping from her breasts in response to her baby’s desperate crying. They tied her breasts up so that she couldn’t feed it.
So at least they didn’t do that to Mary’s baby. But I don’t suppose, from Mary’s point of view, it felt an awful lot different.
But it wasn’t worthy of a mention. Because it wasn’t done by ‘Muslims’.
That was meant to go under my my long comment about Tate’s story.
Below…
“She tells the story of “Mary,” a 15-year-old runaway from Ireland
who, landing penniless in the big city of London, is immediately
preyed upon by “Zakir”, who befriends her only to betray her trust
that very evening by getting her stumbling drunk & lined up for a
serial rape by paying Muslim customers at his “uncle’s” cafe —
which is actually a brothel.”
OK, I’ve just found this online, the actual book, I mean, with the actual passage. It doesn’t say where Zakir is from, although he’s clearly not from the East End. However, ‘Uncle’ sounds English (although it’s not clear) and very clearly isn’t Zakir’s actual uncle. That’s why he’s called ‘Uncle’.
There is no suggestion that the customers aren’t English – not that I could see anyway. There is no rape scene where anyone is passed round. There is a paid dancer (not ‘Mary’) who does more than dancing, on a table. Mary is shocked. But not by any mention that everyone in there looks foreign, because that’s bizarrely not mentioned. Zakir says ‘Uncle’ pays the dancer so well she doesn’t work in the other cafes any more. I guess that’s where you got the idea from. I won’t ask where your secondary source was, but I imagine it wasn’t the Times Literary Supplement.
Why do you need to over-egg the pudding? It’s bad enough that the girl was groomed (she thought Zakir loved her) and coerced into prostitution without you embellishing the story by making everyone there Muslim and including a gang rape that didn’t happen. It is mentioned that the East End now contains people ‘of all nationalities’ and that the houses they’re living in are condemned so can’t be sold to respectable landlords. It isn’t even mentioned who owns the brothels.
Men recently arrived from the West Indies are mentioned, looking for accommodation then filling rooms with 10-25 people, since no provision had been made for their arrival, but nowhere does it say they own brothels (and they’d most likely be Christian?).
And we do know, anyway, that some ‘men’ when they go to other countries as immigrants or as colonialists (or even if they’re Europeans or Americans popping over to Thailand for a horizontal holiday among the sweetly under-aged), don’t just spend their time learning to play the piano. I would respectfully suggest that you might not want to look too closely into the ‘sex tourism’ activities of the British colonialists.
Anyway, moving on through this passage of the book, ‘Mary’, once groomed, becomes a prostitute (no gang rapes mentioned, either by Muslims or by salt-of-the-earth Cockney dockers). She becomes pregnant. Good Father Joe, who’s a ‘saint’, loves the prostitutes of the area (no cynicism intended – we’re talking genuine Christian love here) and helps them in whatever way he can. ‘Mary’ escapes the café/brothel and is cared for at Church House, which it is suggested might be the happiest time of her life. But she is at risk of abduction by her pimps if she strays too far, so when she’s 8 months pregnant she’s taken to a mother-and-baby home run by an order of nuns, in Kent.
Nurse Jenny visits them when the baby, Kathleen, is 10 days old. ‘Mary’ is beside herself with joy and all-encompassing love for her baby. Nurse Jenny sees a bright future for them.
But two weeks later she gets a desperate, semi-literate message from ‘Mary’ to come urgently to the home. Her baby has been taken by the nuns, at less than a month old, and given to a nice Roman Catholic family, who have one child but can’t have any more. Oh, now neat – and we’ve never come across that before, of course, and if we have it’s made up. Or something. And we can assume ‘Mary’ is RC herself, of course, in addition to which she could probably pass on some useful life lessons to her little girl to keep her safer.
Nurse Jenny is apoplectic with rage. She confronts the Reverend Mother and asks how the baby could have been taken without ‘Mary’s’ consent. Stony-faced Rev. Mum says her consent isn’t required, because she’s under age. Even neater. And good for business. Or did you think they gave babies away for nothing, perhaps?
Mary’s not neat. She’s blotchy, hysterical, dark rings under her eyes and banging her head against the window in anguish and desperation. Her breasts are painfully engorged with the milk that was meant for her baby so they’re bandaged her up to help with the pain and to prevent abscesses, but she may already have one.
Nurse Jenny tells Reverend Mum that ‘Mary’ will go mad with grief at losing her child. This does not seem to compute. Kathleen is going to be brought up by nice Christian folks. What’s yer problem?
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Basically, Tate, I’m confused that you didn’t mention any of this. Did your secondary source not mention it either or was it just you who did the editing? Because to me, two evils were perpetrated on ‘Mary’ – but I can make a fair guess at which one is going to stay with her longer. And it was done to her by her own people.
But I think I’ll buy the book. I’ve seen a couple of episodes of the TV programme and the ones I saw didn’t make me think life for poor married women in the 50s, given what some of their husbands were like, was quite as wonderful as the rose-tinted-spec folks on here keep telling us it was. So I’ll read it and get it straight from the horse’s mouth. Thanks for the recommendation.
My mother was a married woman in the 50s of course, but my dad, although born in 1910, could have told some of the men on here a thing or two about respecting your wife as your equal. And they both left school at 14.
I should mention, as the author does, that for the other pregnant prostitutes, who, unlike Mary, didn’t get out before their pregnancies were discovered, someone was brought in (again, without consent of the women in question) to do the business with knitting needles.
There was a lot of blood and pain. Sometimes the women died. You’ll remember abortion was illegal back then, in any circumstances, even if you were pregnant by a rapist or your own dad.
Happy days, the 50s, before all this equality nonsense spoiled everything. The French and the Germans called the ladies with the knitting needles ‘angel makers’, from what I recall. I don’t know if the term was used in English.
Yes, Life is always bad. Now women get mass abortions on the People’s dime. Spreading the Sin around! And you are being conquered by a People who don’t get abortions, with names like Zakir. It’s not a English name, Alba. That’s all you have to know.
In other words, it’s still bad, and getting even worse.
And I haven’t forgotten (nor will I) your encouragement of prostitution and affairs to help all those poor men who even the ‘church fathers’ apparently knew, couldn’t be expected to ‘keep [thee] only unto her’ as they’d promised on their wedding day, because sacrifice is for other people.
That, Janos, is how you get knitting needles and syphilis, in a WMBH anyway (and no dignity whatsoever for married women). And even today there’s antibiotic-resistant gonorrhoea.
And I take it you and Tate know about the Kray twins – they’re as well known here as Al Capone is over your way (though probably not by millennials.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kray_twins
Pure English and the foremost perpetrators of organised crime in the East End of London during the 1950s and 1960s. Legendary – and white as snow. Also nightclub owners. I wonder how many of those were ‘nightclubs’.
You seem to think London was all nightingales singing in Berkely Square until immigrants arrived.
Here’s some white lads from Birmingham in the early 20th century – they’ve made a TV series about them. Too violent for me – I couldn’t watch it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaky_Blinders
Then how did the Cockneys survive two world wars, lived through the Great Depression of the 1930s, survived the Blitz of the 1940s, and yet go under & their unique culture was forever obliterated after the 1960s? Do you have an explanation for that?
No, of course not. The little old lady in Enoch Powell’s famous speech was not imaginary. It was happening right under the noses of anyone who would care to see. But no one was guarding the gate.
Notice how she keep putting the name Mary in quotation marks. Does she hate the very name? Can you imagine her doing that with a Muslim woman’s name like Fatima?
I put it in quotation marks because it’s in quotation marks in Tate’s post. I presumed it was because it might not be Mary’s real name, but you’d need to ask Tate.
My mother was called Mary and her mother before her. Dope. You know what they say about the word ‘assume’.
So are you “Mary” too? See? I didn’t need the quotation marks there, I just wanted them.
No, Janos.
I’m not Mary. Or ‘Mary’.
I hope that I managed to show the hopelessness and even the harmfulness of mass protests against pension reform in Russia right now, while the country is hosting the World Cup. Nevertheless, mass protests are inevitable, and the shaky voice of Medvedev says that even he understood that the absence of protests now is not a guarantee that they will not happen soon.
And by contrast, Putin’s calm, in view with the fall in his ratings, indicates that he consciously spends his political capital on what he considers to be the most important, and this calmness makes Medvedev’s voice tremble even more obvious.
Suspicions that Medvedev and those who are behind him started a pension reform in order not so much to harm Putin, as much as Trump, are getting flesh and blood, and blood in the literal sense of the word.
But for this, we must first recall the 2012 elections in Russia and the dispersal of the Russian Academy of Sciences, not only to recall, but also to understand that if Russian scientists could provide effective resistance, then the Maidan in Kiev in 2014 would most likely not have happened, and even WADA would not have found “a national doping program for Russian athletes” at the 2014 Winter Olympics.
And although the parallel between the dispersal of RAS, Maidan in Kiev and the Winter Olympics in Sochi with the combination of the World Cup, pension reform and the maturing Color Revolution (Maidan) in Washington, it’s obvious that it is much easier to save Yanukovych from the right-wing machine guns than to recognize these analogies and to make their analysis.
See on television, people on a talk shows earn a shit load of money by providing people with infotainment, not analogies.
Yes, and in case, we will pay for all this infotainment together, while we shop at very different stores.
” you tell that to someone who was raped, molested, or mugged. I lived through recessions, as did millions of people. You think any one of them would trade living through a recession for being raped, molested, or mugged? ”
I have suffered violence.
And I have been through a loooonng recession.
Being poor is more than a bit like being raped every day , especially so in a culture where money really is everything.
Kim Kardashian is a fucking porn star for crying out loud , and a LOUSY one at that .
But it’s all good apparently , because she can afford Lear jets and multi-million dollar houses.
So ; really ? honestly ? i scarce see a difference .
Except maybe in the minds of spoiled brats who want to cook up some atrocity propaganda.
I would have more sympathy for victims if not for —
— many of them then proceed more ruthlessly and with greater glee to divide the world up into sheep and goats than do the people they call bigots.
— many of them line up to receive some kind of pay-out.
— many of the high-profile ones then turn out ghost-written books and go on the lecture circuit and otherwise become professional crusaders.
— their sympathy for other victims drys up THE SECOND another victim says , ” i don’t agree with you ” .
much of it looks like an out -and -out racket to me.
“At the risk of sounding too harsh and too simplistic, a military presence on the border with shoot to kill orders ”
Tucson,
Our own Kesa lived under those conditions…said it wasn’t so bad…. ”
The funny part is that even to this day both right-wingers and left-wingers will line up to kick us on that score.
I’m guessing , but my confident guess is that more people died in auto accidents every year in the DDR than were shot by the Grenztruppen trying to go over the wall the entire period of its existence.
The government always claimed the wall was intended to PROTECT US FROM the WEST.
I have to admit I always doubted that —
— until recently , observing what’s going down in your country .
Still , it is hard to sympathize when , as I said at first , your right-wingers still kick us in the teeth for the Berlin Wall , even when they want to do the very same thing.
or , to put it another way , it is hard to sympathize or empathize with someone who pisses on you even when you agree with them.
It’s made me a bit skeptical.
@KesaAnna
There are lots of walls in the world. They’re all generally designed to keep things out and/or keep things in. In this regard, walls are intrinsically neither good nor bad. It all depends on the circumstances.
Point is, conflating the Berlin Wall with Trump’s Wall makes about as much sense as conflating the Berlin Wall with the Great Wall of China.
The Berlin Wall was designed to hold people in and oppress them; East Germany was essentially a giant prison. The second two walls are about national integrity and staving off the invading hordes.
If you can’t see the difference between these walls, then maybe you should have the courage of your open-borders conviction, and remove all the other walls your life depends on.
Are you against the walls in your home that afford you privacy? The walls between your property and your neighbors? I’m not.
Are you against prison walls that contain violent criminals? I’m not.
Are you against the walls that keep your children safe in school? I’m not.
Are all walls the same? And are you really against them? I doubt it.
https://www.amren.com/commentary/2018/06/not-a-country-not-even-a-team-mexico-soccer-pancho-villas-army-world-cup/
They’re “Americans” but they support the Mexican soccer team, their club being named after a famous murderer OF Americans. In other words, “American” is now a meaningless title.
Another humorous example, Liberals were outraged to see the American flag flying next to the North Korean flag. But they’re more than fine when Negroes shit on it – literally. And Libertarians are fine with it as long as the Negro “owns” the flag. Nothing like reductionism to the lowest level….
It’s not that Leftists have no principles, just not the same principles as they pretend to have. They weren’t outraged to see the American flag flying next to the North Korean – they were outraged that Trump was succeeding. In other words, outraged that there still is an American flag at all.
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In Mexico during the late 19th century, the rich were becoming richer by taking advantage of the lower classes, often treating them like slaves. When Villa was 15, his father died, so Villa began to work as a sharecropper to help support his mother and four siblings.
One day in 1894, Villa came home from the fields to find that the owner of the hacienda intended to have sex with Villa’s 12-year old sister. Villa, only 16-years old, grabbed a pistol, shot the owner of the hacienda, and then took off to the mountains.
And the rest, as they say is history.
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The Romans reluctantly allowed the Visigoth tribe to cross south of the Danube and into the protection of Roman territory, however they treated them with extreme cruelty. According to the historian Ammianus Marcellinus, Roman officers were merciless to the Visigoth tribes and even forced the Goths to sell their children into slavery in exchange for dog meat to keep from starving to death.
I can tell you I’m not happy about that dog meat part. E. Gibbon reports children were separated from parents and scattered about the empire’. Two million of them.
On a particular day a notably despicable excuse of a Roman military commander, I wish I could find the passage to get his name, ordered all the captive Visigoth young men to assemble in the all the town squares across the empire where all the young men and boys had been placed. Legions of soldiers had been quietly assembled in streets and alleys near the town squares. At the designated hour the hidden troops marched into all the town squares from side streets and put all the boys and young men to the sword.
And this too is history. History more to your liking I’ll guess.
Dog,
If only the Visigoths had the rule of law and the 9th Court of Appeals….
>>> It’s not that Leftists have no principles…
Hypocrisy is the hallmark of liberals. And because they routinely hold contradictory positions based on feelings and emotions, I would say they lack the capacity for principle-based behavior.
They attack Trump on the same policies that Obama implemented. They advocate tolerance and diversity—so long as it’s at the expense of European Americans. They claim they’re the party of tolerance as they demand intolerance toward tens of millions of fellow Americans. They claim they’re against racioethnic discrimination—as they advocate for Affirmative Action and quotas that discriminate against European Americans and meritorious Asians.
So their “principles” depend entirely on who and not what.
Sun Tzu would have called it “formlessness”. They’re terrified of Trump because he has a fair amount of this as well. No one knows what he’s going to do, least of all him. But they know what they’re about, at least at the higher levels. Theirs is is completely strategic, his is partly that and partly the Mystery of the Man himself.
Maps reveal hidden truths of the world’s cities – BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNgGUSgTbSc
Being “flooded or inundated with refugees” is not mutually exclusive to “the vast majority of refugees are moving next door to cities in neighboring countries”. The latter does not disprove the former in any way.
Nor does the fact that “the vast majority of refugees are fleeing terrorism” disprove any of the anti-illegal-immigration arguments raised by nationalists.
Here’s an illegal alien charged with killing a bicycle-riding 14-year-old. The perp was driving on the wrong side of the road at the time, and immediately drove off from the scene of the crash. He even attempted to flee back to Mexico after being arrested.
Being an illegal alien, one wonders how he was able to acquire a drivers license and purchase and register an automobile in the first place. One thing is certain: liberals are against deporting illegal aliens even when they commit crimes.
Here’s another “Harvard-bound” illegal immigrant accused of raping and impregnating a special needs 13-year-old girl. Another “Harvard-bound” dreamer, I guess.
Now things get interesting on the Democratic plantation.
The era of the white party boss is coming to an abrupt and monumental end.
An endangered species these Pelosis, Feinsteins, Schumers, Jerry Browns, Kaines, Warrens…
The white establishment corporate cash hoarders with crocodile tears and bleeding hearts shamelessly dependent on their brown and disempowered constituency.
The thing is, the phony white caretaker living large on their suffering isn’t needed anymore.
They’re dinosaurs.
And the extinction of the Democratic Party is imminent.
Another feather in the cap for Trump.
A man with so many unintended and unwanted good consequences in the war against the vile and corrupt American political machine.
National Socialist American Workers’ Party – the combination of Bernie Sanders socialism with Clinton’s foreign policy – National Socialism in a chemically pure form.
Good riddance.
Please include the RINO GOPers in your extinction prediction. The Deep State is the professed enemy of Trump’s nationalist policies. To me, anyone who thinks that the Federal government and the globalist policies of the DS are the answer to the problems today needs to find another place to live where socialism is in place.
An interesting question is what is going to be the opposition party to the Deplorables. So far, all I see is a bunch of anti-American anarchists being funded by the NWO which includes significant parts of both of today’s parties. It does not bode well for the future.
Couple of days ago in the comments above I had posted a reply to a comment by Akmofo about the drought in the Middle East. The point I was making was smothered by charges of who was the bigger racist. I am reposting the second half of my reply below, which was my main point:
Beyond that, there’s no cause for alarm because if this is true [the drought], it’s just part of a much longer range trend in climate warming in that region. It began sometime in the Middle Ages and has continued on & off ever since. The Earth’s climate undergoes long range trends in warming & cooling.
Right now we’re in a short warming trend within a longer-term Ice Age. That’s right, lots of people don’t realize we’re actually living in an Ice Age. It’s a good thing human beings developed the means to pump large quantities of CO2 into the atmosphere to continue this interregnum warming period before it start[s] turning colder again.
” It’s a good thing human beings developed the means to pump large quantities of CO2 into the atmosphere to continue this interregnum warming period before it start[s] turning colder again.”
I’m going to buy myself a massive gas-guzzling car tomorrow and be a virtue signaller. I’ll get a bumper sticker that says ‘Saving the world, one belch of exhaust at a time’.
Then I’m going to invest in a cement factory.
In the meantime, it appears that AGW may delay the next glacial period by some 100,000 years. But those folks who’ve bought properties right by the Floridian coast aren’t going to thank me just yet.
And I won’t gloat too much when I have my big car, because, in the meantime, it appears climate change is making Americans sicker – and with your healthcare setup, that’s not good news.
https://weather.com/news/climate/news/medical-society-consortium-health-effects-climate-change-map
But thanks for your sacrifice on behalf of the polar bears of a few millennia hence.
I’m a nobody, so your information is obviously wasted on me. Nobody ever asks me before they make policy decisions.
–Thanks for your response, Green.
Now AGW is making people sick?
I dont buy this stuff—
http://www.pattfoundation.org/10-interesting-facts-global-warming/
Malthuss
Please, I don’t care what you believe. You’re free to ‘buy’ what you want. And there are plenty still willing to sell it to you. Preferably for your vote (Trump digs coal…) And you’re clearly happy to oblige. So that’s some happy people at least.
But do buy some of that property on the beach in Florida. It’ll be going for a song soon.
But you didn’t tell me what you thought of Trump telling YOU that he doesn’t believe in AGW, but telling the planning department in Ireland that he needs a wall built to protect his golf resort from its effects.
Don’t you even find that a little bit strange? What do you think matters most to Trump – his money (and adulation from the cheering crowds at his rallies) or his reputation as a truth teller? I’d say his money – and his golf resort is his money. And then the crowds. Trump digs coal. Trump digs coal…
So, for my money, Trump believes in AGW. But he wants your vote and he knows you think AGW is unAmerican. So for the present purpose he ‘doesn’t believe’ in AGW. And the long-term prospects of the US and the world, beyond his term or even two terms, are not his concern.
@GreenAlba
Here’s what I don’t get… and maybe you can libsplain it to me. If liberals are so concerned about global warming and the environment, then why do they reward irresponsible breeders at every opportunity? Why do they condemn China for trying to get its 1.3 billion population under control, while simultaneously demanding welfare subsidies for Octomoms getting impregnated by multiple “baby-daddies” for the child subsidies, and giving birth while on welfare at taxpayer expense?
The cause of all our problems is not Trump; it’s 7.6 billion and counting. You act like those 7.6 billion humans are innocent victims of the coal industry. Are you serious?!
Can we assume that liberals don’t use any fossil fuels? That they don’t heat their homes in winter, cool their homes in summer, and take hot showers?
If you want to reduce greenhouse gases, then stop encouraging growth. Because I guarantee you that one way or the other—growth will fall in line with the carrying capacity of the planet. We can either do this with sensible policy, or with war and all its attendant consequences as 8, 10, 12 billion humans fight over every last scrap of everything on the planet.
Excotticus
Right. I can’t libsplain this to you because I’m not a ‘liberal’ in your sense. I neither condemn China for trying to save its population from starvation, nor do I advocate welfare for ‘Octomums’. If someone already has two children and they’re living on welfare, I see no problem with making their welfare dependent on the use of a hormonal contraceptive injection. Nobody’s interfering with their choice to have another child but they’d have to accept no. 3 wouldn’t be subsidised and know that well in advance. And sign something to say they know.
At the same time I do understand the trauma of the forced abortions that were inflicted on a lot of Chinese women and what it must have been like to have e.g. educational opportunities taken from your children because you had two instead of one. But I realise why they did it. If you need to have a one-child policy, you need to enforce it. I don’t recall the Christian right in your country being a big supporter of China’s policy back then.
Re the ‘octomoms’, I mentioned the other day some wealthy people who had 6-8 children that the rest of can’t, ecologically, afford. I deplore their lack of personal responsibility too (and they will do far more to add to growth and therefore to ecological damage per capita than the poorer ones). Do you address them as ‘richtards’? No, I didn’t think so.
I don’t know why you would think I disagree with the obvious things in the rest of your post. I don’t own a car. I don’t fly, I buy as little unnecessary ‘stuff’ as possible. I heat my home as little as possible and don’t have air conditioning in summer. I can take a shower in three minutes and I don’t need one every day because I’m not digging ditches. I don’t wash stuff that doesn’t need washing. I have a computer because I need it for work.
I rely on the government, though, to make responsible decisions about fuel sources – I can’t choose where I get my electricity from. I would pay twice as much for electricity that came from a non-polluting source (I could afford to do that because of not having a car).
Why do you think I’m encouraging growth when any post of mine on the subject says the opposite?
I don’t get why people like you assume that everyone who doesn’t agree with you on everything thinks exactly the same as everyone else that doesn’t agree with you on everything. I am not responsible for ‘your’ liberals.
But you didn’t answer the actual question (although it wasn’t addressed to you anyway) about Trump’s duplicity.
And, incidentally…
“You act like those 7.6 billion humans are innocent victims of the coal industry. Are you serious?!”
What I’m serious about are the billions that the coal and oil industries have put into disinformation about global warming. Saying ‘yes, we realise the harm we are doing and we’re going to invest in better ways of producing energy’ is one thing. Saying ‘it’s all nonsense’ and spending billions disseminating that is entirely another. But you knew that.
And, I repeat, the US has 5% of the world’s population yet it produces 50% of the world’s solid waste. That suggests to me that you buy an awful lot of crap that you don’t *need*.
Most of you, not just the ‘octomoms’.
And I didn’t notice, in your diatribe about ‘breeders’ the slightest condemnation of the role of the Catholic church in condemning proper contraception in poor countries. What would they be, in your vocabulary – religiotards?
“And, I repeat, the US has 5% of the world’s population yet it produces 50% of the world’s solid waste. That suggests to me that you buy an awful lot of crap that you don’t *need”
Alba,
True that. Maybe we need someone to tell us how to live?
A Monarch or a benign dictator who will “suggest” a more austere lifestyle? Who is going to tell me that I don’t need another half dozen plastic lawn chairs? Or a “Buns of Steel” apparatus?
“Please, I don’t care what you believe. You’re free to ‘buy’ what you want”
Thank you. I applaud your open mindedness, and also your lifestyle that promotes privation so that a billion Chinese can consume with a clear conscious.
Virtue must be its own reward.
“A Monarch or a benign dictator who will “suggest” a more austere lifestyle? Who is going to tell me that I don’t need another half dozen plastic lawn chairs? Or a “Buns of Steel” apparatus?”
I’m not telling you what to do, EF, I’m making a comment on a blog. Just as people make comments on this blog saying what the UK needs to do in terms of its Muslim population.
Americans (Brits too, but not nearly to the same degree) buy too much stuff. ‘Too much’ is defined by the fact that the human race is sinking in its own filth (and yes, I know that’s just a turn of phrase) and warming the atmosphere to critical levels in the process.
The word ‘buy’, already in inverted commas in my own post, was used psychologically, as you know. Malthuss doesn’t ‘buy’ AGW.
Obviously you are free to ‘buy’ (purchase) what you want. It’s just not a good idea to consume without any limitations. But you know that. The consequences of individual nations contributing excessively to AGW are felt by everyone, not just those individual nations, but primarily by the poor. The ones you don’t want to be so desperate that they come knocking at your door.
Your decisions remain your own and mine remain mine. And until I’m wearing a hair shirt and freezing right through the winter I won’t be remotely tempted to think of myself as virtuous.
Also, I’m well aware that, no matter how much I limit my consumption, when it comes to lifeboat time, someone who’s wasted far more than me will whack me over the head with an oar to keep me out and get ‘their’ share of what’s left.
>>> Do you address them as ‘richtards’? No, I didn’t think so.
Love it—and will do so at the first opportunity!
Yes I agree that most religions and cultures are practically founded on infinite growth. The same conservatives who complain about overflowing cities generally don’t want women to have a right to reproductive choice, which is ironic to say the least.
By the same token, I see environmentalists driving their cars to the shore so that they can take kayaks made from oil and paddle on out to the rig to protest fossil fuels.
>>> What I’m serious about are the billions that the coal and oil industries have put into disinformation about global warming.
So you would what? Make it unlawful for the coal industry to communicate their POV?
No one has proven that humans are THE cause or even A cause of global warming. We have data that shows warming trends; we have correlation which is not causality. We know that the earth has gone through untold cycles of heating and cooling. One moment they’re saying the earth will overheat; now they’re talking about another ice age (which is somehow the result of overheating). We know that when liberals control science, absolutely batshit crazy results ensue. Here’s an example…
A good indicator of why climate change as an issue is over can be found early in the text of the Paris Agreement. The “nonbinding” pact declares that climate action must include concern for “gender equality, empowerment of women, and intergenerational equity” as well as “the importance for some of the concept of ‘climate justice.’ ” Another is Sarah Myhre’s address at the most recent meeting of the American Geophysical Union, in which she proclaimed that climate change cannot fully be addressed without also grappling with the misogyny and social injustice that have perpetuated the problem for decades.
Who knew that misogyny leads to climate change? And misandry? I guess that’s good for the environment. No problems there…
So when you talk about Trump’s “duplicity” I think it’s a stretch. You can agree with the meteorological data without agreeing that coal is the reason. You’re focussed on the drug instead of the addiction.
“Also, I’m well aware that, no matter how much I limit my consumption, when it comes to lifeboat time, someone who’s wasted far more than me will whack me over the head with an oar to keep me out and get ‘their’ share of what’s left.”
Alba,
Considering that life has been described as hard, brutal and short, please indulge yourself a little, knowing that in the overall scheme of things, your excesses, if any, will be forgiven…perhaps even celebrated by those who care for you.
Besides a far greater emphasis on conservation by the Climate Change movement, I think they also need to pay more attention to the situation with the Earth’s magnetosphere in regards to the compromised state it is in due to the assault by the Sun on our planet. I have been monitoring the following site for over ten years now and it is quite apparent that the stat of decay of this protective magnetic field of ours is almost scary….
https://ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov/ccmc-swrt-display/SWMF-RCM/index.php
It was in far worse shape earlier today, so check it out as often as you can. It illustrates the reason that the US government considers a “kill shot” from the Sun a very real and a very frightening possibility.
What? Pole shift? what?
Pole shift is one of the results of this bombardment and according to this NASA site, it happens all the time:
https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-poleReversal.html
My magnetic compass appears to be off now by between 19 to 23 degrees as far as I can tell.
However, what I am referring to is the degradation of the Earth’s magnetic field due to solar activity that allows for more solar wind and solar radiation to reach the surface of our planet and cause noticeable changes in our weather. As goes the Sun, so goes the Earth.
Thanks, Tatie.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/27/anthony-kennedy-retiring-from-supreme-court.html
Flawless Victory. It’s over.
Now comes the metaphorical Night of the Long Knives,
Perhaps to a score by Burl Ives.
Interesting…
Anthony Kennedy is from the same clan of McLeods as Trump?
Recent rulings notwithstanding, this self-anointed pendulum can see the writing on the wall. Civil breakdown is here, deep state and party corruption and palace intrigue has reached banana republic levels. Societal breakdown is imminent, and another Ginsburg or Mayor is not what is needed to restore order. Quite the opposite.
Even this retiring lace Irish sanctimonious fool can see that.
Well played.
>>>this self-anointed pendulum
It says in his bio that he detests the label ‘swing vote.’
Your model doesn’t really seem to account for a lot of things.
For instance, how does it account for the fact that people consistently vote against their own interests in large numbers == Tate
Well, people voted for Brexit and for Trump, didn’t they? They voted against Al Gore in 2000 and against Clinton in 2008 – incidentally, Obama got his Nobel Peace Prize exactly for not letting Hillary to the American Red Button in 2008 – and quite deservedly, I would add.
I’d say Anglo Saxon voters in general have a good intuition, especially if the haven’t been brainwashed by college English 101 course.
College graduates in the last 20 – 30 years – different story.
Sorry Finc, I think Tate is on to something about how people vote against their own interests.
Anglo Saxons – the kind they have in the U.K. – are nearly completely brain dead as evidenced by a half century of voting records ( the Brexit vote seems an anomaly; London’s mayor would like to make it a reflection of Lahore) and the end-of-empire history is reflected in the successful invasion of Britain by Yzlam, Africans, Caribbeans, and South Asians. Are these are the same people who sing “Rule Britannia”??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVzBcIXJXTo
Repelling the Spanish Armada, Bonaparte, and The Third Reich only to succumb to a bunch of Third Worlders…breathtaking. All easily preventable too. Just ask Enoch Powell. Working against their own self-interest; like the British didn’t sacrifice enough blood and treasure in WWI and II.
As for the Anglo Saxons of North America, they have turned once-great institutions of higher learning into festering sewers of Post-Structuralism, Gay Studies, Critical Theory, Feminism, Keynesianism, neo-Marxism, Hip Hop, and sweeping political correctness. Importing mobs of Third Worlders into once-stable and prosperous societies without much of a peep too. They, North American Anglos, have permitted the Evil Fuckers to turn U.S.A. “Global” without much fuss either. Remember they voted for Slick Willie, “W.” and Barry O. twice, each. Some voting record. Don’t forget Canadians have installed Justin “Spliff” Trudeau as P.M. Yeah, so smart those Anglo’s.
I do however completely agree that the vast majority of college graduates of the last 20-30 years would likely vote for anything with a cool logo, “hip” music” or mention of Star Warz.
Repelling the Spanish Armada, Bonaparte, and The Third Reich only to succumb to a bunch of Third Worlders…breathtaking.
They’re succumbing to the Reich the Fourth, which is using Third Worlders as pawns in their game.
But I am pretty optimistic in that department and still hoping for Allied Entente.
George W. Bush brilliant victory in Iraq was turned into a quagmire by American Deep State, working under direction of Hillary as Jihadis’ Fifth column in Washington.
The awful truth about Hillary Clinton’s “Email Server” is that it acted as a communication device, modern analogue of WWII spy shortwave radio station, and Huma Abedin was a communications intelligence officer between Hillary and Jihadis.
Will the SPLC donor base try to prop up Ginzburg with a ‘Weekend at Bernie’s’ gambit when she inevitably croaks & passes on to Greater Gehenna as she soon must do, being that pancreatic cancer is eating at her vitals. How many Jewish taxidermists are there? Oy gevalt, like stuffing a knish this is!
Truly Trump’s presidency is providential. He’s sure to pick her for empty seat and maybe another one or two as well if he wins in 2020. Obama’s two picks, Sotormayor and Kagan are easily the least qualified and worst Justices ever.
We need a moratorium of Women, Minorities, and Jews as far as the Supreme Court goes. George Bush Jr wanted to give us a weird little Jewish woman named Harriet Miers to make the Court half Jewish. I mean, what the hell?
Also a dent has been made in the forced Unionization Democrat Party funding pipeline. This is turning out to be a week of glory, especially on the heels of the Korean victory and the victory for the Christian baker. And all during “Gay Pride Month”!
surely there are computers that can be coded with the constitution, and precedent setting and former court decisions that could run a bunch of algorithms and determine constitutionality.
Instant decisions rendered.
Instant end to lawyer racket
Yeah, like the voting machines which can be opened and investigated, right?
There are brain scans that can detect psychopaths. I think that’s a better idea. I’d love to see your brain scan…
Janos,
The idea of a brain scan defining personality is ridiculous. If you want to see my brain scan, I would show you…but then I would have to kill you….
Scalia was off ed. The rumor is that Podesta was emailing or texting about it, before us commoners knew. In the middle of the night.
@100th Avatar
Not a bad idea—so long as the process is open and transparent, and humans have the final say.
I’ve always advocated for a single open source voting machine. Everyone would know everything about this machine, from the parts used to the code itself. You could even download the code and turn your own computer into a voting machine.
It would engender trust and quickly dispose of bugs, as opposed to the proprietary free-for-all we have now.
>>> Obama’s two picks, Sotormayor and Kagan are easily the least qualified…
Sotormayor admitted that she personally benefited from Affirmative Action, but then did not recuse herself when an AA case was before the court.
Liberals love reminding everyone how much they’re not racist, and yet their every thought, decision, and action is about race.
Race is central to their identity. A stereotyped response is the clue that a reaction formation has been incorporated into their psyches from a young age. The most perceptive students are usually the most susceptible to the development of this condition because of their early understanding at a subconscious level that what they are being taught is wrong. The psychic discomfort this causes whenever the dogma or belief is challenged has to be relieved with an intense stereotyped response.
What is required to break the programming is to introduce the correct ideas alongside a new system of rewards & punishments. Easier said than done.
Janos,
Just cranked up the computer this AM to discover Trump has another SCOTUS appointment.
I love to wake in the morning to the sound of the opposition’s lamentations…it sounds like…Victory.
Are we winning yet? …bigly.
Janos,
What is best in life?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PQ6335puOc
Conan the Barbarian
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/26/red-hen-owner-resigns-from-virginia-business-group-after-booting-sarah-sanders-from-restaurant.html
The Trash removed herself before she could be removed. This part of Virginia is Trump country – and they don’t take kindly to arrogant NY City Liberals flouting the traditions of Southern Hospitality. Her restaurant is probably doomed. One hopes so.
All things move in our favor. The Enemy has over-extended themselves and are vulnerable. Thank you Empress Maxine.
The worthless old Red Hen will probably go back to New York. Apparently she’s a cousin of Meryl Streep, an even more worthless old Red Hen.
Personally I don’t agree with what they did to Sanders. Nor do I agree with related suggestions about spitting in food.
What you do with someone like Sanders who hasn’t the integrity to refuse Trump’s dollar and is happy to channel his lies as if they were God’s honest truth is to show you’re better than her, not worse.
But those Trumpsters who aren’t happy about it might want to do some remedial work on their legendary geographical knowledge (#notallTrumpsupporters).
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumpkins-harass-send-death-threats-to-the-wrong-red-hen-after-sarah-huckabee-sanders-flap
“What you do with someone like Sanders who hasn’t the integrity to refuse Trump’s dollar and is happy to channel his lies as if they were God’s honest truth…”
The inference is that any Trump appointee or supporter has no integrity. You might as well have included stupid, uneducated, and the typical assortment of denigrations famously captured by Hilary with her “deplorable” comment.
The further inference is that you impute evil intent to what might as well be called “the other.”
You are virtuous, intelligent, and wise. The other is the opposite.
Congratulations on digging the divide ever deeper. You may add that to your list of self-admiring qualities.
“The inference is that any Trump appointee or supporter has no integrity.”
No, the inference is no such thing, except in your mind.
Both Sanders and her predecessor have as their jobs to repeat stuff that isn’t true – they don’t spend their whole time lying, but they do have to specifically repeat stuff direct from Trump that isn’t true (remember the predecessor, whose name I’ve already forgotten, warbling on about the size of the inauguration crowds, which he had to do because he was Trump’s mouthpiece).
You have made a huge extrapolation that wasn’t remotely there in my comment about Sanders.Not everyone who works for Trump is Trump’s mouthpiece. I’m assuming they are allowed to disagree with him from time to time on detail (some have done so to the degree that they’ve been sacked).
Your ‘further’ inference is even further from anything I said. The whole thing is an entire invention directed by your view of me as the ‘other’, so well done in terms of irony.
I have, on at least one previous thread, some time ago, specifically said I refused to use the ‘deplorable’ word or infer it as a concept in terms of Trump’s supporters.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/sarah-huckabee-sanders/statements/byruling/false/
None of these false statements implicates anyone else who works for Trump. She accepted the job of which making false statements would, from time to time, be a part.
There are detailed lists of Trump’s own false statements all over the web – his followers are generally clear that they don’t particularly mind. It would be hard to specifically work as his official mouthpiece without occasionally getting involved in telling untruths that you knew were untruths while you spoke them.
Aw c’mon. You know what you wrote and meant. “Someone like Sanders who does not have the integrity to refuse Trump’s dollar…”
Everybody in the administration and on the payroll (a bunch of somebodys like Sanders,) is more or less expected to exhibit loyalty (channel his lies) even if their counsel is disregarded. It has ever been thus.
Personally I was more in tune with Trump the Candidate but he has thrown in — probably for self-preservation — with the Military Industrial Complex if not the National Security State, and we are left essentially with Bush’s fifth term. Nevertheless the cacophony from the Resistance ought to alarm all capable of dispassionate observation (cf. Alan Dershowitz, for heaven’s sake, no Trump supporter). I suggested above in response to another re what the restaurant staff should have done to Sanders’ food that such is evidence of sociopathy and indeed, the Resistance has taken on a pathological quality, if not actually psychotic. Lionel (he was a prosecutor at one point) has warned Maxine Waters that she has just crossed the line with her recent harangue. He references Morris Dees (SPLC) who once explained: If I have a vicious dog trained to attack cats when I say “sic” should I encounter my neighbor and his cat while walking and I say “sic” I cannot claim freedom of speech. There will be civil consequences.
I submit your commentary no matter how you may wish to spin afterward or claim that others’ inferences are “in their own mind” — suggesting some reading comprehension deficiency — contributes to the cacophony and by extension, to the consequences.
On a completely unrelated note I hope Trump keeps one of his campaign promises and blows up NATO (are we seriously still fighting the Second Great War?) on his way to avert the next Great War in Helsinki. One of these days spell-check or copy-and-paste (not cyberwar) will launch the first strike.
Or is it more comfortable to dupe the masses into endless engagement with The Other?
BH
You can ‘c’mon’ all you like. I was specifically referring to Sanders as Trump’s mouthpiece because that’s her job.
The other guy wasn’t able to hack it for too long, from what I recall.
I’m in entire agreement with you that even being rude to someone when they’re minding their own business having a private meal is completely unacceptable. And doing anything at all to a person’s food even more so.
I have no excuses to make for the ‘Resistance’ – they’re nothing to do with me and I do not identify with them.
I’ve said on multiple occasions, as many people on here know, that I don’t like Trump but I absolutely do not agree with attempts to unseat him in any underhand way. EVEN if he is guilty of dodgy business dealings in Russia, for instance, I’m happy for those to wait until his term is over.
And I don’t think either your country or mine should be able to say anything much about a third country’s underhand intervention in other countries’ affairs, given their respective histories.
And I repeat, I don’t use the term ‘deplorable’ – or even think it – in relation to Trump’s voters, although I disagree with many of them on individual issues (but I agree with Elrond’s analysis of the Democrats and their ideological trajectory too).
Hang on Bill, is it really so improbably that Dersh would support him? Your own post says otherwise. Yes the average Liberal Jew on the street can stand him just as they couldn’t stand Bush. But the Neo Con types are very pleased with him and his loyalty to Israel.
From what I have read Dershowitz’s (is that punctuationally correct?) public concern is with Rule of Law — or the apparent lack thereof. But I find it curious that if he is so concerned with legal sanctity how could he have voted for Hilary? The private server alone was illegal enough, although as we see demonstrated in this thread “that’s not what I meant” is apparently sufficient excuse.
The Neocons may be pleased today, what with all the symbolism of moving the embassy and etc. And maybe that motivates some to partially relax their reflexive bias and lend a modicum of support. Tomorrow who knows?
You need to read Machiavelli’s “The Prince”. Appearing to tell the Truth is more important than telling the Truth since the people can’t handle the Truth. That’s what a PR person does: Lie Well. The limitationss of your ideology are really apparent here. You people do the same thing, but then you lie to yourself that they aren’t or that it’s necessary. The latter is true as I already said. So get off your high horse – actually it’s just a Shetland Pony and your feet are dragging on the ground.
GreenAlba / June 27, 2018
Malthuss –Please, I don’t care what you believe. Then why the f– do you post comments addressed to me?
I do wonder who you are.
>>> What you do with someone like Sanders who hasn’t the integrity to refuse Trump’s dollar and is happy to channel his lies as if they were God’s honest truth
@GreenAlba, I’ll answer this question with a question: What did you do when Obama’s press secretary did the exact same thing?
Here’s Obama’s press secretary squirming as he tries to rationalize Obama’s extrajudicial drone assassinations.
You’re obviously not a Trump fan, but at least Trump hasn’t assassinate a 16-year-old from Colorado with a hellfire missile.
What you do with someone like Sanders who hasn’t the integrity to refuse Trump’s dollar/
I will change that to–What do you do with Sanders?
The eatery could have served her.
What do you do with Sanders? Leave her be?
You would preach to her? [notice the ?]
Reparations = $$$ to restore the Confederate monuments funded by Dim party voter registrations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV2ttl_K5Jg&frags=pl%2Cwn
General Sherman offered to let the Comanche live in houses and eat corn meal on the Reservation, or else be wiped out.
Comanche Chief “Ten Bears” replied that the Comanche did not want to live in houses.
General Sherman once advised that all of the young military age white Southern males (the “Youngbloods”) be exterminated.
He was probably just joking, being a ginger. He was a distant relation to my great-great grandmother. He got her a pass through enemy lines once when she was pregnant.
The war, on the basis of the official or more mainstream interpretation of “postwar history,” has not yet begun, since there has not been a division of the countries into blocs and it is not yet clear on which side such key players in the upcoming events as the United States, Britain, Russia and Saudi Arabia will act.
And it is very possible, and even more than likely, that the US and Russia will again be allies and Russia will open for US a Lend-Lease program in the opposite direction and will be dragging its feet for 3 years delaying the fulfillment of its allied commitments, and American soldiers in the trenches of Raqqa and Kirkuk will call the Second front a Russian canned stew.
Beef stew; the pork stew will be dropped from the aircraft to starving jihadists sitting in besieged Raqqa and Kirkuk.
Let them choose – cannibalism or pork stew.
Geopolitics of the Soccer in NYC
Soccer is what football is called in American, and football in America is American football.
That’s why all over New York there is the same picture: in the crowded bars hang several TVs and a short, savory inscription – Soccer!!!
I have never seen such a thing – windows and doors are wide open, a crowd is standing around and watching soccer matches in Russia. And I was in the first half of the day in the Wall Street area, where there are several Korean restaurants, and the Germans living in neighboring houses with their self-confidence of unfinished supermen came to a Korean restaurant to watch the game, eat sushi and drink beer early in the morning.
They watched indeed!!! And they did not like sushi either (by the way, Korean sushi is more delicious than Japanese)
And when the match ended I saw a crowd of Mexicans running from a nearby restaurant with a Mexican flag at the ready. The spectacle was horrendous, and stunned Wall Street people in their jackets hung around and looked at the frenetic service people who went berserk.
Koreans tensed, too, but when the Mexican crowd ran up to them they began to embrace and kiss the Koreans. Koreans first tried to resist, but the Mexicans were much more and Koreans were instantly slobbered from head to foot, occasionally recalling Putin, but chanting incessantly: “Schröder, Schröder!”.
As I understand it, the Mexicans believe that Putin has hitched Schröder with a Korean woman and under her influence, Schroeder ordered the German team to lose!
In general, it’s highly likely that Putin is again to blame for everything.
But the most interesting thing started when Brazil entered the game against Serbia. I watched this match in another restaurant, where most watched were Swiss, but the minority were Serbs half of whom were Montenegrins, the Serbs teasing Montenegrins with Trump and NATO membership.
And only the loss of Germany conciliated the warring sides with each other.
As far as I understand, the Serbs are confident that Trump at the NATO summit has kicked the Montenegrin Prime Minister because Montenegro in NATO is a mine laid under his presidency, since if Montenegro wants to withdraw from NATO, the Stoltenbergs will immediately declare it a Putin’s hybrid war against NATO.
90 in 90: South Korea vs. Germany | 2018 FIFA World Cup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5JKIH3jlbw
Trump shoves aside Montenegro PM at NATO summit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4otCS3FJxas
Precisely why the world is so very fucked up: grown men in shorts running around kicking a ball. And everyone else intensely watching it on Tee Vee.
A great matter of national pride (or some nonsense like that).
It is soooooo important. While the lumpen and imbeciles watch this silly diversion the rapine of globalists and global conglomerates accelerates logarithmically.
Personally, while I am not a Soccer fan, I have a more good-natured approach to anything that is healthy and helps unite people.
Unite people? In other words, it’s designed to replace healthy nationalism and local pride. Wars have been started over soccer in Latin America, proof of their idiocy and inferiority.
You are joking.
he wild riots and destruction when ‘we’ lose.
How does it unite?
I read these blog comments with some dismay (even though I’m not surprised). It seems to me that the real issues are concerned with human survival and with the future directions our species may take. I believe that all this talk about race, religion, politics, geopolitics, liberal vs. conservative, and neocons and neoliberals are only diversions. I have to ask myself why supposedly intelligent CFNers bother to indulge in these secondary topics. Is it because they are really not so smart? Or is it because they are easily manipulated? Or is it something else entirely?
Well begin the proper discussion then. What future directions should we be taking (but almost certainly aren’t right now)?
human survival [as individuals?]
and with the future directions our species may take. [do we lowly bloggers make a difference?]
I dont care to read about AGW and its ‘deniers’ or
the coming Ice Age. What are we to post about?
Let’s try the Unified Field Theory, for starters. Bill? Are you there? Puck? Forget the Comanche. What’s past is past.
Is there a mathematician in the House?
I think Finca’s the closest thing we’ve got.
Things are what they are because they’re not something else. A is A. If A is B, then it isn’t A. Thus the Rainbow is the Rainbow because the colors are discrete (red is red, blue is blue, A is A). It they were all smooshed together, the Rainbow would be black. In other owrds, not the Rainbow at all or A is B.
Thus the Rainbow is not a symbol of the Left, but the Right. We are the true Diversicrats since we want things to remain discrete or as they are.
A Dixiecrat was just a Diversicrat of a particular color, namely Southern.
Yet, everything in the modern world was created by White Men. Yet you think our passing will be of no moment? Think again. And then began to work against your own People who have put out a fatwa on us.
You have a one track mind, Janos. On the plus side, you have a laser-like ability to focus on one thing to the exclusion of all others – exceedingly uncommon these days.
He removed the veil. He perhaps can tell us how he removed social conditioning.
He began to see that Race [DNA] matters and that we have been fooled.
How do you think Israel was created? Mild Enthusiasm? Or utter fanaticism over the centuries and generations until the time was right and the money and means were available? Did they then fail in daring, cunning, or ruthlessness? Oh, they did not! Now compare their efforts to the sniveling coward who betrayed the last chance of the bumbling Boers and then asked Mandela if Whites could have their own state. Mandela said he’d think about it(!).
Enthusiasm. En-Theo, the In (En) God (Theos) or God Within.
As Hitler said, I am not that One you are waiting for. The One who will save us. But no one does his Work, therefore I do it.
“I believe that all this talk about race, religion, politics, geopolitics, liberal vs. conservative, and neocons and neoliberals are only diversions.”
Beans,
So be it then. (As you know my opinion about the whole magilla, I’d have to say: Mission Accomplished; all Identity all the time, and zero utility. Fuck it.)
Yes! Ocasio-Cortez was gushing about little girls seeing her on the campaign trail and how they would say, “She looks like me”. Isn’t that sweet? It’s what you wanted so enjoy it. Or not! They’ll be coming for you if we don’t get ya first….
The Berkshires are a Whitopia. And the swarthy men long to feast in the White Tower and eat of your substance.
…The tone-deafness is truly gobsmacking.
Beans posts about gum-flappers on this comment space talking about “race, religion, politics, geopolitics, liberal vs. conservative, and neocons and neoliberals” (all diversionary diarrhea), and vladdie chirps right up with *another* stinking diaper-load of Identity Bleating!
They know very well what they do, just not the extent of loss of trust and its consequence and repercussions. Fuck it. I say to all involved, enjoy the reckoning, it will be a surprise of epic proportions…
The #1 issue we should be considering right now is global warming. If the earth heats up as it’s predicted to, we’ll have a lot more to worry about than politics. After all, it’s where we live. To me, the earth is similar to a gigantic spaceship, we have our own air supply, water, and all the things essential to life. However, if things go wrong, there’s nowhere else to go. You live or die with your ship. In my experience, humans aren’t very good at dealing with abstracts, and tend to blow off anything that isn’t directly kicking their asses. You don’t wear a life jacket because you expect the boat to sink and by the same token if there’s a chance that the 98% of the scientists who predict global warming are right, then if the non believers are wrong, they will more than likely be dead wrong. Just like the true believers who put “W” into office, with the financial debacle that followed, I’m guessing that most of those same people are climate deniers, who will scream the loudest if the shit does hit the fan. Being careful has kept me alive on more than one occasion, and I intend to keep right on doing the same things that have worked up to this point. As i have said before, I like pessimists, they’re the ones who bring the life jackets.
Just like the true believers who put “W” into office, with the financial debacle that followed, I’m guessing that most of those same people are climate deniers
Unfortunately, Bill, that is you who’s dead wrong about “W” – George W. Bush have saved the dollar-based financial system in the early 2000s by channelling the excessive cash leaving the dot com market into a real estate bubble, there was simply no other choice but crushing the entire system, money simply had nowhere to go.
And it is Clintons to blame for red-hot operation of the printing press (or the Philosopher’s Stone) during the 90s in exchange for mostly fraudulent dot com paper.
Sorry, Capt’n, not Bill.
Repressing the urge for a sarcastic reply, I will only say that Bush was a fool by any measure that’s applied. How do you suppose that Obama got elected? Under normal circumstances, he wouldn’t have stood a chance, but the Republicans fucked up so bad, people were so desperate that they even voted for a Muslim nigger that wasn’t even born here.
Muslim nigger that wasn’t even born here
Obama is not a “muslim nigger”, he’s a Black Irishman from the Kennedy Clan.
So you’re saying he’s a leprecoon?
Trouble is, Cap’n, not even the commentariat here can agree whether or not it’s a “real thing,” never mind the very real political hurdles to actually getting anything done about it. I’ve consigned it to my personal WGAF file, since we obviously have no intention of doing anything about it either way, assuming it’s not already too late now anyway. Time will tell how it all plays out, but I’m convinced it’s in the hands of the youngsters and the yet to be borns now.
For what it’s worth, I see it as a symptom of the much larger and ominous overriding problem, which is human population overshoot. Unfortunately, no good solutions there either, other than what we’re doing already: global warfare and mass environmental degradation leading to mass starvation. Nature bats last, and all that…
I’m with you there, Scratch. Actually, I think that overpopulation is the root cause of most of our problems, from pollution to scarce resources to you name it, and nature does indeed bat last.
So you’re saying he’s a leprecon? A fairy.
So you’re saying he’s a leprecoon?[thats funky, with the extra o].
Sorry, can’t resist an opportunity for a little wordplay, besides, sometimes it’s too serious in here.
–It’s all over now, isn’t it? –Yes, it’s all over.
As I explained above, we are in a brief warming spell during a longer term Ice-age. We have been in this “interglacial’ stage for the last 10,000 years.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110717001801AA2iiEE
“We are technically still in an ice-age due to the existence of ice upon the planet. Nested within the ice-age cycles are the glacials and right now we’re in an interglacial, and have been for about 10,000 years.
“Both the ice-ages and the glacial maxima are tied to the movement of our planet within space.
“The glacial periods occur when there is a decrease in the amount of incoming solar radiation coupled with a decrease in solar radiation absorption due to a lower angle of incidence of sunlight and a greater reflectance from Earth.
“This is occasioned due to changes in the shape of Earth’s orbit around the Sun. The shape tends to, then from, circularity, such that we have an orbit that stretches elliptically then rebounds back to circularity.
“The full cycle lasts some 100,000 years during which time there are 90,000 years of gradual cooling followed by 10,000 years of comparatively rapid warming. Having recently (geologically speaking) encountered the warming phase we are now in an interglacial period and are moving toward the next glacial maximum, albeit some 80,000 years from now.
“During a full cycle the temperature swings by an average of 7°C. Other orbital variations that the planet goes through can amplify or attenuate the effects of obliquity such that the normal temperature range falls between 6°C and 8°C….
“Over much shorter periods of time, ranging from a few days to a few hundred years, there are periods of natural warming and cooling. The reasons for these are many but they all revolve around the amount of solar radiation entering the atmosphere and the amount of thermal radiation being retained by it.
“We have the capacity to affect both of these – we can pollute the atmosphere and block out sunlight (global dimming) and we can enhance the amount of heat being retained by increasing the levels of greenhouse gases present in the atmosphere (global warming).
“30 years ago we nearly brought about a period of global cooling. The dimming caused by our polluted atmosphere was blocking so much sunlight that it countered the underlying warming and global temperatures levelled off. Since then the various Clean Air Acts have resulted in decreased levels of pollution. Ironically this has cleared the way for warming to return to the fore.
I left out a lot of stuff after the ellipsis concerning even greater natural variations in temperature. At one time the Tropics extended to the Poles.
It’s unlikely as a species we will be able to coordinate a planet-wide intervention to effect any real changes, even if we were to sign onto comprehensive plans like the Paris Agreement. Such plans are unworkable because either not everyone will sign on, or they will renege after the hardships hit home. So there’s no use carping about what people SHOULD do.
It’s unlikely as a species we will be able to coordinate a planet-wide intervention to effect any real changes, even if we were to sign onto comprehensive plans like the Paris Agreement. Such plans are unworkable because either not everyone will sign on, or they will renege after the hardships hit home. So there’s no use carping about what people SHOULD do.
That’s where I’m at too, and I think the past 30 years or so have proven that without a doubt. If AGW’s real, any realistic solution is untenable. If it’s not, no worries. Population control pretty much the same thing. No realistic solutions out there, other than what we’re doing naturally already.
““Both the ice-ages and the glacial maxima are tied to the movement of our planet within space. ”
Tate,
Sooo…you suggest that there are other variables other than CO2? Someone should inform the superficial. You mentioned the Paris Accords as being…”comprehensive”…I would describe them as being “inconsequential”.
You are correct in that there will be no rational global response.
We’ve paid for the ticket, and now we’ll take the ride.
Hey Captain, Mr. Bill stated the concern with politics was a diversion and to prove ourselves capable of lofty thoughts we were to discuss really relevant topics, like AGW. You started off on the right track and then BAM!
“Just like the true believers who put “W” into office, with the financial debacle that followed, I’m guessing that most of those same people are climate deniers…”
I plead guilty as charged, Billy.
O Capt., my Capt.,
Most people on this blue ball can’t even reconcile themselves to the fact that they are literally *made* by and out of the Earth, so it follows that a large number of asses will beaten… unto death.
I’ve bought my last life jacket and I’m just hoping it contains flotation material that won’t degrade too badly in the coming years, because humans are becoming more and more delusional at the very same time that they’re breeding themselves into extinction. Some serious shit is coming down the road and shitheaded fantasies aren’t going to deflect one stinking chunk of it. We’ll use what we’ve got while we’ve got it; fantasists will talk — then wonder what the hell happened.
Good Luck.
BTW, I include the Military and its minions as prime examples of unleashed and coddled fantasists — perhaps the most delusional of us all. The madness is spreading and the corruption aids the spread as strutting beribboned pimps start believing their own lies.
Once again, this time by the example of Angela Merkel, Trump shows and proves that he is a system player. There is no emotion or inconsistency in his actions. He has a clear program, and he acts accordingly. And the American voters already noticed this.
Two weeks ago, on June 14, the German Christian-Social Union (CSU) raised the issue of seceding from the parliamentary coalition with the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) headed by German Chancellor Angela Merkel. The stumbling block was the conservatives’ proposals for refugees and illegal migrants. CSU noted that “complete breakup is not too far”, as the CDU does not listen to their opinion.
CSU leader Horst Seehofer, who holds the post of German Interior Minister, told the head of the government about the possibility to act independently in the fight against illegal migration if the CDU does not approve the proposals of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
After this statement by the head of the German Interior Ministry Merkel was trapped: either she agrees with the minister’s theses and then abandons her two-year line on migrants, and put her political capital into question, or makes Seehofer to resign and thus destroys the ruling alliance, which means new elections.
The new elections would be a failure of the CDU and new parliamentary seats in CSU and “Alternative for Germany”, this is a new internal political configuration of the main political forces.
Bavaria is the analogue of industrial America, which Trump wants to make great again, and the main driving force behind the operation “Merkel to resign” is very clear. The candy thrown on the table in Canada is a symbol of the pirate “black spot”, and Merkel received it. After that, Zeehofer began his attack.
In fact, Trump is destroying the global world that was attempted to be build by the neo-Trotskyists, after removing Nixon from power (let me remind you that the key figure in the Nixon Watergate affair, who finally managed to push it through to Nixon resignation, was the young lawyer Hillary Clinton, who after that got a permanent place at the top of globalist cabal), breaking up the forming alliance of the USSR-USA and placing a stake on China as a world factory under US control.
Trump is the continuer of the cause of those who stood behind Nixon – quite different American elites. Therefore, Trump and those who stand behind him, and these are the same people who brought to power both Putin and Xi Jinping, will repay their bloody debts to the Black Project, no matter what continent they are on.
And Merkel is only one of these figures, although the most iconic in the European theater of military operations.
And she will answer for Ukraine, too.
So Merkel is Black Project, and Trump, who is trying to destroy her, is also Black Project since he’s with the Nixon Camp. Makes all kinds of sense!
Merkel is Black, Trump is Red, Nixon was White.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-supporter-anti-semitic-racist/
All things move in our favor. They raised these people up to replace us, seeing that they had far more ability than the Blacks. But the Hispanics often hate them now too – even more than they hate us in this case. Their plans are falling apart faster than they are coming together. Their New America will be stillborn. And the stench of our dying race will make this continent unlivable for them as well.
The Intersectionality seems to not be working.
This will go down as the most rapid political Rise and Fall in all of recorded history. She didn’t even make it 24 hours.
Huh? Billy, haven’t you noticed? It’s alright for non-Whites to be racist. Why isn’t the whole system screaming about this 24/7, instead of just grumbling? You know, like they would is she were White?
This is what Sam Francis termed Anarcho-Tyranny. Different people treated different ways and the Law enforced when and as “they” wish. “They” have done their job only too well. As the Bard said, don’t prepare a bonfire for your enemy so big that it singes you as well. Thus I rejoice because they have. They just don’t know it yet!
Green Alba–There was a lot of blood and pain.
[and things are different now?]
Green Alba–Sometimes the women died.
[women diie during abortions, now].
There is or was an abortionist [circa year 2000] who was doing the late or very late ‘abortions’—2 women, adult women, died under his knife.
He ‘worked’ in Phoenix. Do the research.
Research Kermit Goosnell, ‘Dr’ Edelin, Patrick Chavis, etc.
[all black or mulatto, coincidentally].
Malthuss
I’m not a fan of abortion. I’m not sure what your point is, but if you think knitting needles in an unsanitary back room is the way to go, I’ll just have to leave you with that preference.
I never stated or implied that. Why do you post that? Tomorrow, a new thread at CFN.
Sounds like pistols at dawn, Malthuss, in which case you have the advantage 🙂
I don’t know if Mr K wants a new thread hijacked with another discussion of abortion. It only landed on this thread because of a very partial misquoted passage from a book, which was misquoted for another purpose.
I don’t ‘like’ abortion. I don’t know anyone who does. I don’t personally even know anyone who’s had one, to my knowledge. But it happens, whether we like it or not. It’s always happened, even before recent social changes. And it’s always going to happen. Sometimes it’s the better of two awful alternatives, at least in someone’s judgement.
As someone on here (a man, but I can’t remember who, sorry) already said (roughly), if men had babies, you’d have seen abortion laws entirely relaxed aeons ago.
Anyway, to my mind, and clearly to most other people’s minds, it’s better that it happens in safe, sanitary conditions, although it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a cohort that actually likes the idea of the dangerous variety of abortion as ‘punishment’, while a bunch of men, somewhere, who had their fun anyway, ‘had somewhere to get to and sailed calmly on’.
In a system where abortion is legal, those practising illegal abortions – or those who are criminally negligent in performing legal ones – should obviously be rooted out and, if appropriate, jailed.
Regarding Trump-Putin Summit
Allow me to take the bull by the horns and immediately move on to the most important thing – the refutation of the delirium that the experts spill in connection with Bolton’s visit to Moscow and the upcoming meeting between Putin and Mr. Trump.
And the most important delusion is the statement that this is the first meeting of the leaders of the two superpowers, since in fact this is their third meeting. And I do not mean the secret meetings between Secret Agent Trump and KGB Colonel Vladimir Putin, which was fantasized by Hillary Clinton, in order to seize power in the US and unleash a nuclear war.
I mean that before the upcoming meeting in Helsinki (according to FOX5) there were two meetings in Hamburg, and it is very important that there were two of them. And as I wrote already then the fact that there should be exactly two of them was agreed in advance, since the organization of the second meeting in Hamburg required an amendment to the protocol determining the place where the wife of the US president will seat and who will be her neighbor during the “festive” dinner.
By the way, in this connection, I doubt that the meeting will be in Helsinki. By and large, it must take place in Yalta, since it is a meeting of two allies, which have been fighting for a year and a half against a common enemy.
And naturally the first point of these negotiations will be the need for a coordinated counteraction to the provocations of the common enemy, who arranges them in such a way that the responsibility for them falls on Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin must respond to them.
Actually in retrospect it is clear that this item will be discussed as a continuation of the two meetings in Hamburg, but for this very reason, this time the main point of the negotiations will be the “legalization” of the union of Russia, the USA and Israel, which took shape in South Syria and has already become a triviality of American political landscape in spite of desperate opposition of the “deep state” = the Black World Project.
And if the meeting still takes place in Helsinki, it will be called Anti-Helsinki someday, since the first Helsinki became a symbol of deception, as a result of which one of the high negotiating parties ceased to exist, and the new military doctrine of Russia, originally called the “Medvedev Nuclear Ultimatum” even after certain coordination with Hillary Clinton still says in absolutely unambiguous language that Russia will deal a nuclear strike on the collective West or if you wish NATO if the collective West tries to do something with Russia, that it did with the USSR.
Nevertheless, the collective West = NATO is persistently trying to verify experimentally whether or not Vladimir Putin and the co-operative “Lake” will consider attempts to provoke large-scale riots in Moscow (pension reform!) against the backdrop of the deployment of the Euro ABM infrastructure in Poland and Romania as the threat to the very existence of the Russian state ala 1991.
Give ‘em some pharmaceutical drugs, junk food, and TV. Political Correctness…. And internet porn….
“At the core of their identity, of course, they were hunters and warriors—precisely what the white man wanted to deny them. While the Great Father and his apostles had not yet succeeded in this righteous mission, the thousand or so Comanches who took food and annuities at Fort Sill had already lost their identity as hunters. The men saw this as a form of slavery. What stories could they tell their children or grandchildren if all they did was wait at the reservation to be given food? Or, worse still, became farmers?”
PeteAtomic,
Please take action and reply to this comment of mine: http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/conflict-escalation/#comment-358124
Today, the market can’t even implode when it really, really, wants to.
We must build the Wall and secure the Border to make America safe again.
14 Words, very important Words
Once the Wall is built, I will dedicate the rest of my life to traveling along it, taking pictures of it in all different lights and seasons, and in general, singing its praises. I will be the Poet of the Wall. Nothing is more important than boundaries. There is not life without them. Even Amoebas have walls to separate the A from the Not A.
What is wongr with people who don’t see that? Are they even still human? Are they not in fact lower than Amoebas?
A picture of Janos walking the wall.
I danced in the morning
When the Wall was begun,
And I danced in the moon
And the stars and the sun,
And I came down from Boston
And I danced on the earth,
Near Mexico
I had my birth.
Dance, then, wherever you may be,
I am the Lord of the Wall, said he,
And I’ll lead you all, wherever you may be,
And I’ll lead you all along the Wall, said he