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A propos of the recent Roseburg, Oregon, school massacre that left nine dead, President Obama said, “we’re going to have to come together and stop these things from happening.” That’s an understandable sentiment, and the president has to say something, after all. But within the context of how life is lived in this country these days, we’re not going to stop these things from happening.

And what is that context? A nation physically arranged on-the-ground to produce maximum loneliness, arranged economically to produce maximum anxiety, and disposed socially to produce maximum alienation. Really, everything in the once vaunted American way of life slouches in the direction of depression, rage, violence, and death.

This begs the question about guns. I believe it should be harder to buy guns. I believe certain weapons-of-war, such as assault rifles, should not be sold in the civilian market. But I also believe that the evolution of our Deep State — the collusion of a corrupt corporate oligarchy with an overbearing police and surveillance apparatus — is such a threat to liberty and decency that the public needs to be armed in defense of it. The Deep State needs to worry about the citizens it is fucking with.

The laws on gun sales range from ridiculously lax in many states to onerous in a few. Yet the most stringent, Connecticut, (rated “A” by the Brady Campaign org), was the site of the most horrific massacre of recent times so far, the 2012 Sandy Hook School shooting. The handgun law in New York City is the most extreme in the nation — limiting possession only to police and a few other very special categories of citizens. But it took the “stop-and-frisk” policy to really shake the weapons out of the gang-banging demographic. And now that Mayor Bill deBlasio has deemed that “racist,” gang-banging murders are going up again.

Which leads to a consideration that there is already such a fantastic arsenal of weapons loose in this country that attempts to regulate them would be an exercise in futility — it would only stimulate brisker underground trafficking in the existing supply.

What concerns me more than the gun issue per se is the extraordinary violence-saturated, pornified culture of young men driven crazy by failure, loneliness, grievance, and anger. More and more, there are no parameters for the normal expression of masculine behavior in America — for instance, taking pride in doing something well, or becoming a good candidate for marriage. The lower classes have almost no vocational domain for the normal enactments of manhood, and one of the few left is the army, where they are overtly trained to be killers.

Much of what used to be the working class is now an idle class that can only dream of what it means to be a man and they are bombarded with the most sordid pre-packaged media dreams in the form of video games based on homicide, the narcissistic power fantasies of movies, TV, and professional sports, and the frustrating tauntings of free porn. The last thing they’re able to do is form families. All of this operates in conditions where there are no normal models of male authority, especially fathers and bosses, to regulate the impulse control of young men — and teach them to regulate it themselves.

The physical setting of American life composed of a failing suburban sprawl pattern for daily living — the perfect set-up for making community impossible — obliterates the secondary layer of socialization beyond the family. This is life in the strip-mall wilderness of our country, which has gotten to be mostly of where people live. Imagine a society without families and real communities and wave your flag over that.

President Obama and whatever else passes for authority in America these days won’t even talk about that. They don’t have a vocabulary for it. They don’t understand how it works and what it’s doing to the nation. Many of the parts and modules of it make up what’s left of our foundering economy: junk food, pointless and endless motoring, television. We’re not going to do anything about it. The killing and the mayhem will continue through the process of economic collapse that we have entered. And when we reach the destination of all that, probably something medieval or feudal in make-up, it will be possible once again for boys to develop into men instead of monsters.

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  1. Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2015 at 9:40 am #

    Great post as usual, Mr. Jim. Isn’t it great to be alive to witness all this great theater? Speaking of theater, Putin’s latest moves and Russia’s meteoric resurgence remind me of that famous 70’s sitcom The Jeffersons. The following lyrics especially. Let that iconic tune play in the background as you read.

    Fish don’t fry in the kitchen;
    Beans don’t burn on the grill.
    Took a whole lotta tryin’ just to get up that hill.
    Now we’re up in the big leagues
    Gettin’ our turn at bat.
    As long as we live, it’s you and me baby
    There ain’t nothin wrong with that.

    Any way you slice it, these are Good Times.

    Boris of Arabia

  2. jimbolio October 12, 2015 at 9:54 am #

    Excellent post this week.

  3. DrTomSchmidt October 12, 2015 at 9:56 am #

    One wonders if JHK used to see kids taking their rifles on the NYC subway on the way to target practice, or if there isn’t lead contamination in a lot of those fine armories around NYC where marksmen used to drill. That martial culture survived in NYC to the 60s.

    What we’re seeing is exactly what JHK wrote. The gravest threat to every civilization has been young barbarian unmarried men. We’ve grown a larger and larger group of internal barbarians, and at some point they will storm the gates of our civilization. They have no prospects of wives or meaningful participation in society, so they will destroy that society or it will collapse of its own accord, as its men contribute little and its women are too overworked to marry and bear children.

    • Neon Vincent October 12, 2015 at 9:59 am #

      Our host did a good job of tying the current situation into his view of the issues facing America. There are other countries with as high a proportion of guns to people as the U.S., such as Finland and Switzerland. Even Canada (Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!) has a lot of guns in the hands of its civilian population, albeit mostly rifles and shotguns for hunting, as handguns are generally illegal. They don’t have the high number of firearms deaths the U.S. does, even accounting for their smaller populations. If it weren’t for the increased driving because of cheaper gas, this year would have been the first in which guns killed more people than cars in the U.S.. Instead, we have to look for something in the culture. Isolation leading to anomie, along with a good dose of toxic masculinity colliding with frustration and failure, look as good a set of culprits as any

      • Neon Vincent October 12, 2015 at 10:05 am #

        Speaking of frustration, tomorrow night is the first of the Democratic debates for presidential candidates. As I have been advising for months, the best coping strategy for the current election cycle may be to drink heavily while watching. To that end, I have drinks and drinking games for Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. Bottoms up!

    • abbybwood October 12, 2015 at 12:45 pm #

      Here is an excellent article written by Chris Hedges that deals with the prison pipeline:

      m.truthdig.com/report/item/a_pipeline_straight_to_jail_20151011

    • ejhr October 13, 2015 at 5:33 am #

      That would largely explain the muslim troubles we see unfolding today. Young people looking for some meaning and not finding any except in religion and even martyrdom.

      Something like 60% of gun deaths in the USA are suicides.

  4. Trent B October 12, 2015 at 10:09 am #

    Perhaps the most concise, straightforward articulation as to why gun control is not a viable option: the existence of the Deep State. Thank you, Jim, for your formidable wordsmithing.

  5. blow_off_top October 12, 2015 at 10:15 am #

    Case in point, I almost got sick and vomited yesterday during my annual “pumpkin patch” outing with my family. We climb up into the wagon for the “Hayride” and instead of getting pulled through a field of ready-to-be-picked vegetation and beautiful hues of autumn, we get the visuals of a completely flattened out brown-dirt earth, scattered with giant cranes and bulldozers. Not a single plant to be seen. I found out later that the farm had been sold, and a strip-mall and Wegman’s store is being built. The new 21st century Hayride – through a sickening construction site.

    A sad, sad, commentary on life in 21st century America…tear down the remaining vestiges of wholesome memories, and replace them with a cement wasteland.

    • Frankiti October 12, 2015 at 5:32 pm #

      It’s like that book, ‘The Little House’ by Virginia Burton except there is no more bucolic countryside to escape to… only soon to be suburban exurban.

  6. bobinboiseid October 12, 2015 at 10:28 am #

    “… I believe certain weapons-of-war, such as assault rifles, should not be sold in the civilian market..”

    I didn’t know fully automatic assault rifles like those used in war are available for sale legally in America. I thought that the A.R. 15’s and AK-47s sold in America are just semi automatic rifles built much weaker and lighter than the fully automatic versions used by armies.

    JHK, I’ve been following your writing for 10 years, but you do your readers a disservice in assisting the gun grabbers by repeating their false memes.

    It is also aparent to the majority of people who have studied the mass shootings in schools widely publicized by the popular media that they are nearly all false flag events.

    • James Howard Kunstler October 12, 2015 at 10:39 am #

      The semi-automatic refiles sold in America are easily converted to full automatic and kits are sold to accomplish this. Your comment is foolish.
      –JHK

      • bobinboiseid October 12, 2015 at 11:06 am #

        IF you were caught with the parts, or a rifle converted to full auto you’d spend the better part of the rest of your life in prison. Please inform me where I can buy the parts to make a weakly built, semi-automatic rifle into a weapon of war, I’d love to know! The only thing an AR-15 and an M-16 have in common are a high-capacity magazine and a similar design. The M-16 is built sturdy for use in full auto mode, an AR 15 illegally converted to full auto does not last very long.

        Also, note that NONE of the false flag school shootings have featured a scary looking rifle that was converted to full auto. Research how many scary looking rifles are actually used in crimes and you’ll find it to be a tiny number, which is especially relevant since the AR 15 is the most popular sporting rifle in America.

        I totally agree with your assessment of America and our dismal future, but I strongly disagree with your stance on guns, mass shootings, 9/11, and your support of the criminal State of Israel. I write off your position as being someone who can only partially tell the truth because they don’t want to be written off as one of those crazy conspiracy theorists.

        Ditto for Noam Chomsky. He is right on the mark on so many things but still foolishly states, in public, that 9/11 really happened the way our criminal government says it happened, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.

        • elysianfield October 12, 2015 at 11:32 am #

          Bob,
          ” The M-16 is built sturdy for use in full auto mode, an AR 15 illegally converted to full auto does not last very long.”

          Do not confuse Colt receivers with after-market receivers of variable quality. I’ve owned them, legally converted,…have you? There were no issues of longevity with the Colts.

          • bobinboiseid October 12, 2015 at 12:38 pm #

            So, you are saying some tiny amount of AR-15 rifles are Colts, and some minuscule percentage of those have been illegally converted to full auto, so that justifies the media saying that weapons of war are sold in America??
            How many full auto conversions have ever been used in a crime? Any? Ever??
            The issue is magazine capacity, but the gun grabbers try to paint all semi automatic rifles as “assault rifles”, when that term is only correct when talking about fully automatic rifles, of which the last new one legally sold in America was in 1968. Only the rich can afford to buy one of the old ones grandfathered in, and I doubt they’re going to be the ones shooting up schools.

        • seawolf77 October 12, 2015 at 11:40 am #

          I don’t think a mass murderer is concerned about fatigue life of his weapon and the speed of fire of the weapon has little to do with the life of the weapon. It’s the total # of rounds. When a round is fired, the load is the load. If you fire another round a millisecond later or an hour later, it makes no difference to the gun.

          • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 12:04 pm #

            Also how hot the metal gets.

          • seawolf77 October 12, 2015 at 12:11 pm #

            You’re talking 50 caliber machine guns firing thousands of rounds, not a shoulder weapon firing 30 round clips. Apples and bowling balls.

          • elysianfield October 12, 2015 at 8:01 pm #

            “So, you are saying some tiny amount of AR-15 rifles are Colts, and some minuscule percentage of those have been illegally converted to full auto, so that justifies the media saying that weapons of war are sold in America?”

            Bob,
            Lighten up. I was responding that conversions are not fragile. Wolfie is correct…the gun doesn’t know or care…a cycle is a cycle. I wrote earlier that I know of NO legal full auto conversions having been used in a crime. You should also note that the cut-off for grandfathered full auto weapons was 1985, not 1968.

            There is no single “issue” with gun grabbers, by the way. They will take up ANY issue that seems politically viable… Oh, and don’t expect a fair and balanced coverage from the news media…they don’t care that they are in error, semi/full
            cop killer, etc. The oft-repeated canard that really lights me up, however, is that a criminal will come into your house and take your gun away from you and use it against you. Sweet Jesus….

        • truthteller October 12, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

          Chomsky said the details didn’t so much matter, not that he believed in the “official story” in every aspect presented by the government.
          Ron Paul has never accepted “trutherism” either and I found his
          critique of US foreign policy as causative of the attacks very effective, while not ruling out some LIHOP evaluations (eg Raimondo’s) myself.

          • bobinboiseid October 12, 2015 at 9:33 pm #

            There is no “trutherism”. There is what happened, which was the same thing that happens every time we go to war. We manufacture a shocking event to shut down any dissent and scare Americans into supporting another war for resources. 9/11, as Michael Ruppert said, was one of the largest crimes in the history of America, and the US Federal Govt was the only group with the means, motive and opportunity.

      • elysianfield October 12, 2015 at 11:27 am #

        JHK,
        With all respect, Machine guns and assault rifles ARE allowed, in a number of states, with the proper paperwork and taxes paid. There are only a finite number of these weapons, and they have become very expensive. For any number of reasons, these guns never show up in the crime statistics. I, at one time, owned a collection of these weapons, fully functional…in Oregon.

        I apologize for this correction…one should never argue with anyone buying his bandwidth by the Terabyte…to paraphrase Mark Twain.

        • JourneyOfJoenes October 12, 2015 at 10:57 pm #

          Exactly right. It’s a bummer that Jim wandered into the anti-black rifle quagmire, it tends to cheapen an argument. It’s totally acceptable to be relatively uninformed about existing gun law and/or types of firearms, but allergy levels are so high that it’s best to have your facts straight.

          Seeing as how practically any modern gun shoots once per trigger pull, and a flash ‘suppressor’ never hurt anyone, you can argue that they should be thought of in terms of a)the ability to conceal and b)the amount of energy put downrange in a time period.

          In any case, in terms of gun-related injuries, the elephant in the room is always demographics.

      • Rusty October 12, 2015 at 1:48 pm #

        Dear Mr. Kunstler
        I read The Geography of Nowhere in 1993 when I was an undergraduate in civil engineering technology. Your work set me on a path that led me to a writing career. Thank you for saving me from engineering.
        Your assertion that the parts kits to convert semiautomatic weapons to fully automatic are easily available was very distressing to me. You have fallen for a lie by half-truth. If you are interested, I would be happy to put you in touch with my sources of Second Amendment information, or at least suggest a couple of titles.
        On a related topic, I find the prevalence of belief in false flags, cover-ups, and other conspiracies quite worrisome, particularly when they are held by otherwise reasonable people. Is this a bad sign or am I jumping at shadows?
        Yours
        Rusty

        • bobinboiseid October 12, 2015 at 2:30 pm #

          Research operation “NORTHWOODS” which was recently declassified.

          Operation Northwoods was a proposed operation against the Cuban government, that originated within the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other US government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians and military targets, blaming it on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The proposals were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2]… Wikipedia

          Substitute Cuba for the World Trade Center, and you will understand…

          • seawolf77 October 12, 2015 at 4:35 pm #

            The Book of Exodus is also a manual on state terrorism.

      • wolfbay October 12, 2015 at 2:10 pm #

        Doing The conversion to full auto is illegal. If gun laws work this will stop the conversions from happening.So much for gun laws. Not only would there be illegal sales of existing guns but also active smuggling of guns into the country if guns became illegal. It would be a growth industry for the cartels.

      • miasmo October 12, 2015 at 2:13 pm #

        “Your comment is foolish” I believe that’s one of the old favorites included in Francis Titnut Sr’s Wrong Songs. m.youtube.com/watch?v=rUz3NRdXJ1s 😉

        Great post. I shared it with my FB political group. We’re serious lefties, so I had to make a disclaimer about some non-PC content, but the heart of your message is too important to ignore, and stated elegantly with your razor sharp wit, as usual.

      • Piper Michael October 12, 2015 at 3:20 pm #

        James,
        You really stepped in the sh*t this week, you’ve managed to contradict yourself openly.
        I am a fan of you, and the process of collapse, so how can we ‘not’ have ‘ugly weapons’, yet, stand up against those who DO have them?
        How can a man with 5 rounds in his cylinder, stand against a man with a fully automatic weapon?
        This is the crux of the matter. ‘They’, say we don’t need ‘military’ style weapons… we do, when, the enemy has them. The Enemy in this case, are gangbangers, whether they are of the black variety, or the uniformed variety.
        The beauty of the 2nd amendment, as Jefferson noted, was that it was not needed until they try to take it.
        It is impossible to fight without equal arms as your enemy, that is what the 2nd amendment means, because, we are all The Militia’s of the Several States, able to take on all comers with a rifle behind every blade of grass.
        Get ready James..

        • miasmo October 12, 2015 at 3:55 pm #

          I don’t think laying out various aspects of a complex problem qualifies as “contradicting” oneself. And the main point of the post is that the problem is bigger than gun control vs no gun control.

          “The physical setting of American life composed of a failing suburban sprawl pattern for daily life — the perfect set-up for making community impossible — obliterates the secondary layer of socialization beyond the family. This is life in the strip-mall wilderness of our country, which has gotten to be most of where people live. Imagine a society without families and real communities and wave your flag over that.”

          I agree that this is a more serious issue than whatever current gun regulation policies one may or may not favor.

          • Frankiti October 12, 2015 at 5:38 pm #

            Everyone is missing the point that Americans are scared of their own shadow, and why? Because the culture here is a abysmal, a failure. We are left with people that want to either shoot their way out of life’s problems, or prohibit freedoms until utopia. They both ignore the problem.

        • stelmosfire October 13, 2015 at 8:12 am #

          “How can a man with 5 rounds in his cylinder, stand against a man with a fully automatic weapon?”
          Um’ by knowing his weapon and how to shoot strait? Full automatic fire is a waste of ammo. There is no way to hold your line of aim. Perhaps the three round burst mode is effective, perhaps. Beyond that it is nothing but cover fire!

          • bobinboiseid October 13, 2015 at 8:56 am #

            If you fired a full auto rifle from the shoulder, your statement would be correct, because the muzzle would climb straight up into the air.
            The way to fire full auto, however, is to tuck the stock under your arm and hold the muzzle down. This makes for relatively accurate fire in close quarters, which allows one person to take on a large group of armed people.
            If I was going into a battle situation, I’d much rather have a semi automatic rifle, with full auto capability. When the second amendment was written soldiers and citizens had the same rifle. If we were to stay true to the intent of our forefathers, then everyone should have access to semi automatic rifles capable of fully automatic fire.
            There’s a new twist. Our crazy military is now fielding rifles with smart bullets that can explode at a set distance to kill someone behind a barricade, further eroding the ability of someone with a semi automatic rifle to fight back. If you want a real weapon of war, that would be thing to have, …except for the insanely expensive smart bullets.

      • cbeard October 12, 2015 at 7:53 pm #

        JHK, I’ve been reading your blog for a while now and enjoy some of the comments and the links. I agree with your take on our throwaway, happy motoring society and such, But I have to call a spade a spade. Your comment to bobinboiseid was wrong. Also I’ve kept quiet when reading your derogatory comments about the Southern U.S., which is my dearly beloved home. I’ve lived in rural N.Y. state once and for the most part, found it quite pleasant, except for the weather. You are a rude, obnoxious, narcissistic, ignorant boor. Not at all like the people I met while living upstate. An assault weapon ban wouldn’t be good for anything other than a plus for the leaders of a police state. I don’t care what kind of ban is put in place. If you have enough money you can get anything you desire. Bazooka anyone? I’ll now use the same nonchalant, dismissive comment you made earlier. “Your comment is foolish”

      • mastman23 October 13, 2015 at 12:26 am #

        This is gun grabber logic JHK. People can easily build a cannon out of pvc pipe and propane canisters so the what ifs are in fact already illegal just like sawed off shotguns. The semi auto AR15 and its clones sold even in Walmart a trusted ally of DHS is nothing more than a semi automatic rifle. You can do the same mod to fully auto on any semi auto available today . I myself converted a Marlin 22 semi into fully auto when I was a teenager 50 years ago.

        You also voiced the opinion that citizens need protection from the government and this is fact. The founding Fathers in their wisdom wanted a civilian armed force as a deterrent to Tyrants. In those days we had muzzle loaders as did the standing army. They did not specify citizens must have bows and arrows to deter muzzle loaders.

        So i say the weapons used and kept by the Army and now all branches of government should be legal to citizens period. That would include all small arms the military has semi auto or fully auto.

        It is well documented that the government has purchased millions of rounds of hollow point Ammunition. This cannot be used on the field of battle per Geneva convention rules of war. So why are they buying and stockpiling it?

        In the event of a Tyrannical imposition of Marshal law would you not want to be on a equal footing as your adversary?

        THE REAL ISSUE IS MIND ALTERING LEGAL DRUGS. These people need to be on a BAN list for even a steak knife purchase

      • Henry Chinaski October 18, 2015 at 9:12 pm #

        You are wrong on this James, they are not easily converted. Ever hear of the 1934 National Firearms Act? The kits are not available, stop with the hyperbole, you lose credibility.

        After reading down a few dozen comments it looks like you have been roundly thumped on this issue.
        Stick to what you know.

        I read Road to Nowhere many years ago, and it inspired me to rethink many things. The very lifestyle and social construct you seem to yearn for would need to be full of free men and women who are armed.

    • Zoltar October 12, 2015 at 10:42 am #

      WTF?

  7. AimlowJoe October 12, 2015 at 10:31 am #

    We can all see where this is going. Take away any hope of a decent future and you’ll get a destructive culture. Look at the rest of the world for a road map of where we are headed. Unrestrained Violence. Middle East. Central America, Caucuses, Chicago…

    • Frankiti October 12, 2015 at 5:39 pm #

      And when you print trillions of dollars to only see them land in the bank accounts of the already gilded elite…

    • stelmosfire October 13, 2015 at 8:16 am #

      Aimlow, Where you been buddy. I look at the blog and you haven’t written in ages. Finally found a job I presume ;o)

  8. el vasco October 12, 2015 at 10:32 am #

    Gotta disagree re the idea of Deep State necessitating armed citizens. Deep State wins if guns are the response.
    However–gotta completely agree with your assessment of the general culture and collective mental health of the nation, particularly re young males.
    Porn, isolated violent “gamer” mindset. Loser/winner/wiseass/fame/dweeb nonsense. Thanks for nothing, Hollywood. Have you seen “Pineapple Express”? Or any Eli Roth film? I rest my case.

    And now, the corporate festival of gambling–consider the FanDuel virus, etc. And…bleak job opportunities across the spectrum. And… for the distaff side, girls/women becoming single moms as a default option. Or choosing the crushing Fiorina mindset–become a self involved careerest prick.

    • mastman23 October 13, 2015 at 12:38 am #

      Two things need to happen here. First the total ban on Violent video games

      second make it a felony to text and drive

      Second one pisses me off because the weenies that are paid off by the cell Giants in Congress have no incentive to do their job. Meanwhile you have two glasses of wine at dinner and get pulled over by cops you are fined given probation and have insurance rates Rockafella cant afford for 10 years. Not to mention you go on MADD’s hit list to be persecuted for life.

      That is because you are supposed to so impaired you cant pay attention and react to the millions of texting drivers who are always looking down at their phones doing 80 on the interstate

      • bobinboiseid October 13, 2015 at 9:06 am #

        In Idaho it is legal to drive while talking on a cell phone, but illegal to drive drunk, even though they both cause the same amount of impairment. It often seems that our laws are not based on reality, but only the political winds of the moment, and our spineless legislators knee-jerk reactions.

        • stelmosfire October 13, 2015 at 12:58 pm #

          Let me get this right. It is against the law to drive someone impaired home if you are sober? Where does the designated driver come into play? You must be wrong or the state statutes are totally FU.

  9. K-Dog October 12, 2015 at 10:34 am #

    More and more, there are no parameters for the normal expression of masculine behavior in America.

    Avenues of expression are in short supply and I’ll bet my phone was letting some of our ‘watchers’ know my every move one day last week when Obama was here so I’d not be expressing myself in any way other than to drive my ass home after work last Thursday.

    Mass shootings justify mass surveillance, so of course nothing will be done to curb violent mayhem. Killings will continue because the war on terror depends and demands on the continual manufacture of new fear. From that point of view young angries with guns are only doing a patriotic duty. They are doing the important work of keeping government employees surfing our net and phone system on the tax dime because with a nation at peace and tranquillity government employees would all have to get real jobs.

    As for keeping track of me it is a total waste of time but military intelligence isn’t know for being so smart and they certainly are not smart enough to stop random young angry shooters from finding an inner voice of expression and shooting the place up. The only thing that could possibly keep young men properly occupied is the possibility of meaningful work with a meaningful pay-check with which they could support a family and have meaning. But avenues of that kind of expression are in short supply for meaningful work has been mostly shipped to China. The new American equation is no work, no future, and no family. A perfect recipe for American terror.

    As for detecting angry young shooters forget it. Being angry and young is part of normal development so being able to tell when normal even healthy young anger crosses a line and becomes dangerous is impossible. All that can be done is bolster social restraint that will curb the impulse and our leaders don’t have a clue on how to do that.

    • Ken Hall October 12, 2015 at 11:24 am #

      “I’ll bet my phone was letting some of our ‘watchers’ know my every move one day last week when Obama was here so I’d not be expressing myself in any way other than to drive my ass home after work last Thursday.”

      A bit PARANOID are we? Why not simply pull the battery out of your phone? Perhaps you are you one of the gazillions of humans convinced the most important phone call of your entire life will occur whilst you are off the communications grid, eh?

      • K-Dog October 12, 2015 at 12:03 pm #

        No not at all paranoid. Past behavior, mine and theirs, makes my suspicion well founded. Removing my phone battery; now that would be paranoid.

        To think that someone who flipped George Bush the bird a dozen years ago would not be on ‘the radar’ for life just isn’t reasonable and I’m a very reasonable guy. As most of the gazillions of humans walking around have never done any such thing the gazillions also can’t imagine that once you do actually do such a thing things will then done to you from time to time to encourage paranoia and your expression of it.

        But Pavlov’s dog I’m not.

    • mastman23 October 13, 2015 at 12:39 am #

      BOGGEYMAN

  10. Zoltar October 12, 2015 at 10:39 am #

    Spot-on, Jim. There was a time when the contention that America needs comprehensive gun control was a slam dunk, but with more than one gun in circulation for every man, woman, and child in this country, you can’t put the toothpaste back into the tube. As politically challenging as it would be to enact effective gun control laws at this juncture, the very notion of confiscating guns that are already in citizens’ hands is unthinkable.

    As for your point about the Deep State, I have never for a moment been tempted to buy a gun for the purpose of shooting bad guys but, I must admit, I feel increasingly concerned about my inability to help defend us all from “the authorities.”

    At present there are no countervailing forces to offset the societal factors that you identify as emasculating the mass shooter demographic, but collapse should do the job. When manhood is again defined by doing enough physical labor to feed your family and bankers’ children are starving, we will all have plenty of challenges to face, but daily school massacres won’t be one of them.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 2:59 pm #

      Yeah because they’re wont be any schools, instead they’ll be real enemies such as gangs of looters and rapists that need shooting.

      • Zoltar October 13, 2015 at 5:16 am #

        The gun nut fantasy is that idiot bad guys will holler “Here we come!” and lurch, zombie-like into the front yard so that they can be shot down. The fantasizer can stick his gun out through the front window or even, in a glorious display of manly courage, stride out through the front door, declare “Not today, bad guys” and then mow them down.

        And some bad guys, being idiots, will do that. But some bad guys are neither stupid, nor brave, nor honorable. All that a smart. cowardly, dishonorable bad guy needs to do is choose a time when you don’t expect an attack, hide in the bushes some discrete distance from your house, and wait until you come out to tend your garden, empty your chamber pot, or whatever. From a safe distance he then shoots you dead.

        You could be the world’s greatest marksman and own a hundred guns, but there’s not a damned thing you can do about it.

        Life is not a video game, Janos.

        • bobinboiseid October 13, 2015 at 9:11 am #

          Better to be well armed and have a chance, than to be a cowering victim, which is why mass murderers seem to always pick a “gun free zone” to do their deed.

          • Zoltar October 13, 2015 at 11:41 am #

            So Bob: If you were able to get your hands on a proper assault rifle, what’s to keep the bad guys in Boise from doing the same?

        • elysianfield October 13, 2015 at 11:14 am #

          WTF?

  11. Walter B October 12, 2015 at 10:49 am #

    Well now you’ve gone and done it James, if you were not on a list already, surely you are now, for you have spoken the unmentionable, the cause and effect of the Hollywood violence racket and their bastard cousins the violent video “gaming” industry. How could it even be remotely possible for such harmless “entertainments” to have adverse effects on the “educated, aspiring, tattooed hoards?

    Whether it is a concerted effort to breed violence as a response in the American “society” or just the result of such dark influences, the result is the same when coupled with the current state of decay within. In the classic laboratory experiment of the overcrowded rat cage, such violence results in every instance. Is it not peculiar that we humans even refer to our mindless existences as the “Rat Race”? Guess what happens in the end people? It ain’t good, as they say in France.

    The problem is not the tool it is the people and the pathetic ineptitude of their corrupt, greedy, uncaring “leadership”. Frog-Boil anyone?

    • jloughrey October 13, 2015 at 3:37 am #

      You are right about the constant background of violence that has been accepted in to our culture. For my entire adult life, I have made a concerted effort to not watch violent movies, television shows or video clips, and I don’t play any sort of video games. The idea being that you slowly become emotionally numbed and that you accept violence as the norm. When I mention this to people in casual conversation, they are inevitably surprised that I have not seen some particularly popular movie known for violence, and often they don’t understand why I would avoid such otherwise “worthy” cinema. Occasionally, I’ll catch a glimpse of something on the TV by accident (even during supposedly family-friendly times) where I am appalled at the violence and/or gore. I can’t imagine what a steady diet of that would do to your brain.

      • bobinboiseid October 13, 2015 at 9:15 am #

        …also, they’ve recently discovered that our mind processes what we see on TV as reality. We think we’re just entertaining ourselves when watching exciting and violent movies, but our brain thinks that we are actually living it.

  12. zaphod42 October 12, 2015 at 10:53 am #

    As always, interesting and concise. Thank you.

    While reading it came to my mind that, according to a study that I recently read, humans have the ability to identify in the vicinity of 400 to 500 other individuals in a group. This would seem to connote natural societies of small villages. The study noted that when the maximum is attained, every new identified person results in another person being ‘forgotten.’

    A secondary observation was that, when in societies larger than 4 to 5 hundred individuals, people became restless and unhappy.

    If I am able to make the time, I will try to research and relocate that article. It was in a magazine, probably “Mind” or “Scientific American”… maybe 4 or 5 years ago, perhaps a bit more. A number of comments and articles in the last few months have called this particular report to my attention.

    Natural limits of that sort may explain a lot about current conditions; they may also suggest necessary solutions to a number of thorny problems or resolutions to incipient predicaments.

    • K-Dog October 12, 2015 at 11:28 am #

      Somebody familiar with the ‘rewilding’ wank of returning to our natural hunter-gatherer ways might be able chime in with that study or a similar one. Your Scientific American article supports the idea that modern life is unnatural and a source of much mental grief and illness so somebody here knows it well. The clusterfuck audience is large enough to make the odds of someone stepping up with the info about 50-50.

      The meme of being able to keep only a small number in mind as part of your immediate social group has been floating around the collapse blogo-sphere for a while though I recall the actual number is only between 200 and 250. I saw such a study cited in ‘Too Smart for our Own Good‘ by Craig Dilworth myself.

      • el vasco October 12, 2015 at 12:38 pm #

        consciousness. the big evolutionary leap that carries its own curse: ” uh…why am I here?”

        we shoulda stayed monkeys.

        • bobinboiseid October 12, 2015 at 2:36 pm #

          When the oil gets scarce, we’ll return to just being tall monkeys with arsonist tendencies.

        • K-Dog October 12, 2015 at 4:14 pm #

          Yes, why are we born to suffer and die. Kilgore Trout answered that question in his book ‘Venus on a Halfshell’.

          Q: Why are we born to suffer and die?

          A: Why not!

    • K-Dog October 12, 2015 at 11:33 am #

      I just had a thought that the natural limits you mention could be why uniforms and distinctive clothing to identify large social groups developed. Once groups became large enough so people could not keep track of all group members in their head external technology was needed.

      • zaphod42 October 12, 2015 at 1:51 pm #

        Interesting thought, K-Dog. That, also, would explain a lot. Also, team apparel, self identity with a “team” (Go Cubs!), and so forth, would all be substitutes for local wars against the hated “others.”

    • NapalmZygote October 12, 2015 at 2:29 pm #

      Dunbar’s Number. It’s on Wikipedia.

    • russ October 12, 2015 at 3:03 pm #

      Yes, I had seen something along those lines, too. A check of the “wiki” suggests that the term referred to is “Dunbar’s Number”, which posits that about 150 relationships is all you can really follow or care about.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number

      And there was a later study suggesting that rather than 150, you could get well into the 200s – referred to as the Bernard-Killworth estimate – which suggests you could keep track of 230-290 personal relations.

      Beyond that, things become very abstract.

      An excerpt –

      “…Dunbar then compared this prediction with observable group sizes for humans. Beginning with the assumption that the current mean size of the human neocortex had developed about 250,000 years ago, during the Pleistocene, Dunbar searched the anthropological and ethnographical literature for census-like group size information for various hunter–gatherer societies, the closest existing approximations to how anthropology reconstructs the Pleistocene societies. Dunbar noted that the groups fell into three categories — small, medium and large, equivalent to bands, cultural lineage groups and tribes — with respective size ranges of 30–50, 100–200 and 500–2500 members each.

      Dunbar’s surveys of village and tribe sizes also appeared to approximate this predicted value, including 150 as the estimated size of a Neolithic farming village; 150 as the splitting point of Hutterite settlements; 200 as the upper bound on the number of academics in a discipline’s sub-specialization; 150 as the basic unit size of professional armies in Roman antiquity and in modern times since the 16th century; and notions of appropriate company size.

      Dunbar has argued that 150 would be the mean group size only for communities with a very high incentive to remain together. For a group of this size to remain cohesive, Dunbar speculated that as much as 42% of the group’s time would have to be devoted to social grooming. Correspondingly, only groups under intense survival pressure,[citation needed] such as subsistence villages, nomadic tribes, and historical military groupings, have, on average, achieved the 150-member mark. Moreover, Dunbar noted that such groups are almost always physically close: “… we might expect the upper limit on group size to depend on the degree of social dispersal. In dispersed societies, individuals will meet less often and will thus be less familiar with each other, so group sizes should be smaller in consequence.” Thus, the 150-member group would occur only because of absolute necessity—due to intense environmental and economic pressures…”

  13. malthuss October 12, 2015 at 10:59 am #

    Germany just imported thousands [or tens of thousands] of terrorists, potential terrorists and their sympathizers.

    Killings in USA are often by Black males. In this case, the killa was mulatto.

    BLM movement declares otherwise,

    Cullors also asserted, “Black-on-black crime is a myth.” She called comments on the phenomenon a “distraction” and “an unnecessary debate,” then encouraged the audience that when a conversation goes in that direction to “shut it down.”

    Breitbart/ Follow Michelle Moons on Twitter @MichelleDiana

    • K-Dog October 12, 2015 at 11:34 am #

      Trying to attract haters are you. The shame, the shame.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 3:02 pm #

        Is telling the Truth a hate crime in your book? Blacks are far more violent than Whites and Muslims far more violent than Europeans.

        • K-Dog October 12, 2015 at 4:23 pm #

          I contend the only reason you come here is to get someone who agrees with the twisted bull you put out to say so regardless of the name you use. Then your people have someone to investigate. That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it. You probably have a sister named Shantay.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 6:40 pm #

            Off your meds?

        • seawolf77 October 12, 2015 at 4:43 pm #

          Quien es mas machisimo, Julio Iglesiais or Ricardo Montalban?

        • outsider October 13, 2015 at 11:05 am #

          Janos, Wouldn’t World Wars I & II put the lie to that? A war between the US & Russia and the White Man is finished.

  14. terrasapien October 12, 2015 at 10:59 am #

    Well articulated Jim as usual. There are a few more externals driving this situation: The huge lie this misdirection rests on and thrives on is banned to mention here — suffice to say critical thinking must not melt steel beams of national political correctism delusion. (go along to get along).

    Two oft resulting conclusions to the pain of it all: for profit prisons, and for profit medications. Some horrific percentage of the population is on some kind of psychotropic medication. Try coming off that stuff for any reason and see how you feel. It’s well documented that psychosis results including urges to kill or do suicide.

    Other populations have just as many guns, and there’s always rocks, baseball bats etc. It’s not the means to destructive failure as the cause so much as the horrific dead end for profit culture sucking the nation dry which has the power to print world reserve currency at will. America has attracted the moral pond scum of the planet being every psychopaths wet dream: a money printing press and the largest military force in human history. The trampled population ends up being the main victim as the narrative is exceptionally. Upside down twisted mess with very visible stress cracks abound.

    • tahoe1780 October 12, 2015 at 11:12 am #

      “Antidepressants are among the most prescribed types of drugs in the US,1 despite the fact that many of them have also been linked to violence against self and others.” “A study by the Drug Safety Research Unit in Southampton showed that one in every 250 subjects taking Paxil or Prozac were involved in a violent episode.” “In 2011, a whopping 14 million prescriptions for Paxil were written in the US.”

      • tahoe1780 October 12, 2015 at 11:15 am #

        “A reanalysis of the original raw data found no evidence that Paxil was effective for the treatment of major depression in teens; its effectiveness is actually on par with placebo. It also found that serious side effects such as suicidal tendencies were mislabeled and misrepresented in the original study. Suicide was in fact 10.3 times more frequent on Paxil compared to placebo.”

      • zaphod42 October 12, 2015 at 2:00 pm #

        I lost my youngest son due to a prescribed antidepressant drug. It caused a psychotic episode during which he attacked another person; the police officer responding used deadly force.

        • malthuss October 12, 2015 at 2:34 pm #

          Sad.

          anti-depressant = pro psychotic?

        • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 3:04 pm #

          Most of the young killers are on these drugs apparently. Not sure if the last one was or not.

      • seawolf77 October 12, 2015 at 4:45 pm #

        80% of all prescription opiates are used in America. 5 % of the world’s population. We’re in a whole lot of pain.

    • Sean Coleman October 12, 2015 at 11:55 am #

      I mentioned the drugs (legal and illegal) angle here a couple of weeks ago. The English journalist, Peter Hitchens, has been banging this drum for quite a while now:

      hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/06/what-are-you-afraid-of-.html

      If I remember, I like to check up on the drug use of the latest mass killer. The would-be killer of Wolfgang Schauble, the German Foreign Minister, who is confined to a wheelchair, showed a, er, ‘strong’ correlation.

      Hitchens, and surprisingly few others, have noticed the critical thinking versus pc delusions phenomenon.

      I have worked out a psychological theory (simple and true) that explains a lot of it. The explanation also covers why so many people don’t realize they aren’t thinking.

      • tahoe1780 October 12, 2015 at 1:03 pm #

        Thanks for that link. I’ve forwarded it on.

      • outsider October 13, 2015 at 11:36 am #

        It’s become quite the fashion to blame psychotropic drugs for the violence we see among our alienated young men rather than the society that causes so much depression and alienation in the first place. For those millions who really need them, these drugs are a godsend. Violence among young men without a future may well be worse if they didn’t exist. One factor not mentioned here yet (to my knowledge) is that so many of these 20 somethings complain that they were never able to find a girlfriend. As young women pursue careers and concentrate on themselves, there are more lonely young men with no future out there than ever.

        • Sean Coleman October 13, 2015 at 2:30 pm #

          It certainly isn’t the fashion on this side of the Atlantic to blame drugs, legal or illegal, for these mass murders. Here conventional wisdom blames American gun laws and nothing else, but I notice that there is more awareness of the link in America. In Britain part of the reason for people’s refusal to think about it is the fact that The Hated Peter Hitchens has challenged them to do so, political correctness determining guilt or innocence on the identity of the perpetrator as much as on whatever crime was committed.

          Have a quick look through my link to his article above if you have your doubts. And here’s a link I once found following a thirty second on-line search after learning that Wolfgang Schauble had been put in a wheelchair by an assassination attempt:

          hat4uk.wordpress.com/2015/05/30/solved-the-riddle-of-why-schauble-assailant-dieter-kaufmann-became-a…

          I have my own serious doubts that anti-depressants are a godsend. Far from people really needing them it seems that they are being prescribed indiscriminately and quite needlessly.

          • Sean Coleman October 13, 2015 at 2:56 pm #

            I should have added that not only do all the papers blame US gun laws (I live in Ireland now but I’m sure the English papers are the same) but they get self-righteous about it, almost demanding that something be done about it.

            Meanwhile there have been mass meetings in country areas (In Tipperary recently) over the regular violent burglaries by armed and vicious criminals based in the cities. Some people have been applying for gun licences to protect themselves but unnamed police ‘sources’ maintain that this is no solution. Leave it to them. Sure. Of course, the fact that many, if not most, of these criminals are re-offending while out on bail with ‘previous’ as long as your arm, but crime isn’t going up (that’s ‘moral panic’ silly), it’s going down!

        • Sean Coleman October 13, 2015 at 2:44 pm #

          Here is a Dutch psychologist who argues that anti-depressants are being over-prescribed, with a million of her countrymen taking them.

          radio1.nl/item/302581-Wetenschapsonderzoekster-Trudy-Dehue.html

          Unfortunately you’ll need to understand Dutch if you want to listen to it.

          I suspect that depression is a man-made disease anyway and I am convinced that doctors don’t really know what it is. Big Pharma is an obvious culprit but it goes beyond that.

  15. lsjogren October 12, 2015 at 11:03 am #

    Interesting, Kunstler’s the first person I’ve seen besides myself who has made what seems to be a rather obvious point about gun control: The left supports strong restrictions on ownership of firearms, yet at the same time is demanding the rollback of the law enforcement policies such as “stop and frisk” which are essential in getting people to actually comply with the law.

    What criminal-minded person is going to refrain from carrying a gun around if they know they aren’t going to be punished for doing so?

    This is yet another example to me that the political left is either blitheringly idiotic or else it is blitheringly disingenuous.

    • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 11:24 am #

      You have powerfully articulated the case against judging from the outside. Unless one understands the nuances of a culture, it is impossible to say anything sensible about it.

      Specifically, I think it is difficult for many people to believe the true state of affairs about guns in the USA. Especially on the left. Similarly, I think it is difficult for many other people to believe that power corrupts. Especially on the right.

      Maybe we just aren’t a very sentient species. Certainly, rationality is neither taught nor encouraged by any of our institutions. It is barely tolerated.

      • K-Dog October 12, 2015 at 11:43 am #

        Rationality is tolerated if a person uses it to be a cog or tool of the machine but not if one aspires to be an overman. We are sentient but certainly not as sentient as we think we are.

      • MisterDarling October 12, 2015 at 2:25 pm #

        “Specifically, I think it is difficult for many people to believe the true state of affairs about guns in the USA. Especially on the left. Similarly, I think it is difficult for many other people to believe that power corrupts. Especially on the right.”-sauerkraut.

        Nicely put.

        Cheers!

  16. sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 11:07 am #

    Yes.

    But don’t forget the altogether inadequate mental health facilities, and the consequent lack of treatment for those who need it most.

    Add to that the advertising industry, which subliminally reinforces the national meme of manhood – and the sole route to manhood – being rich.

    So we find a culture which is specifically driving its young males insane, and arming them to the teeth. Perhaps the only wonder is why massacres are so few.

    All of the above is why the Deep State must exist – to protect itself against against the criminally violent society which hosts it. Were I a young man, I wouldn’t fight it – I would join it.

    • lsjogren October 13, 2015 at 11:02 am #

      Lack of funding is not the only issue with mental health. The movement toward strict civil liberties protection for the mentally ill led to the virtual elimination of mental asylums and put large numbers of mentally ill on the streets.

      I don’t know whether the overall good outweighs the bad on that or vice versa. But one of the negative side effects has no doubt been more violence.

      • sauerkraut October 13, 2015 at 1:34 pm #

        Right you are.

        But the whole rationale for the elimination of mental asylums was to redirect the money into more humane programs. The money got redirected alright: into the Viet Nam War.

  17. chipshot October 12, 2015 at 11:10 am #

    Waiting for the inevitable “guns don’t kill people, people do” comment.

    Here’s a response in advance:
    Guns make it easy for people to kill a lot of people. Randomly, indiscriminately, from a distance and in a brief moment of time.

    Can’t say that about baseball bats, knives, razor blades, or any other legal weapon.

    • tahoe1780 October 12, 2015 at 11:18 am #

      Pressure cookers?

      • uslabor October 12, 2015 at 12:00 pm #

        Pressure cookers have some catching up to do to rival firearms.

    • wolfbay October 12, 2015 at 2:32 pm #

      Part of the cultural and political divide about guns has to do with rural vs Urban culture. When I lived in NYC the only people with guns were cops, criminals, politically connected people and the rare hunter. I live in a rural area now and virtually everyone has guns and they are just another tool on the farm. I don’t believe I’m less safe because of it.

    • bobinboiseid October 12, 2015 at 2:41 pm #

      Sensible Gun Control would involve taking all the guns away from our government, as well as any other dangerous items with which they can harm us.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 3:08 pm #

      And banning guns results in an explosion of home invasions by armed criminals.

      Also the carnage of Rwanda was not carried out by guns, but pangas (machetes) and other primitive weapons.

      Guns don’t kill people, people do.

      • seawolf77 October 18, 2015 at 11:12 am #

        They especially do it well when the person is coming at me with a machete.

  18. Mark Weiss October 12, 2015 at 11:17 am #

    This is the most poignant post Mr. Kunstler has made. I agree in all regards. This post talks to the systemic decay of America, both as physical entity and as a concept. Thank you sir.

  19. Newton Finn October 12, 2015 at 11:19 am #

    Mr. Kunstler is on the money with his latest post. I am not in support, however, of random stop-and-frisk, because it would only further the already intimidating power of the police state.

    What people often miss about the Supreme Court’s Heller decision is that the Court affirmed the right to have a gun in your home AND clearly indicated a similar right to OPEN CARRY for self defense. Concealed carry, which state after state has rushed to approve in some fashion, was ironically one of the prohibitions that the Court said could be constitutionally enacted.

    For those who haven’t taken the time to read through the entire Heller opinion, it’s easily available on line. Highly recommended for anyone grappling with the gun issue.

  20. Greg Knepp October 12, 2015 at 11:28 am #

    You write about the problems of alienation and loneliness exhibited by members of our society – perhaps all of us on one level or another. While guns, cars and strip malls have exacerbated these problems, such ills have plagued civilized societies from the very beginning. Indeed, the problem may be that civilization itself exerts an inhibiting influence on the kind of person-to-person communication necessary to the emotional health of the human creature…Emotional cripples make poor citizens.

    The dilemma was predicted in the 11th chapter of Genesis. The city of Babel literally falls apart as the result of social complexity, collapsing of its own weight, as it were. The symptom – a universal inability to carry on common discourse. As communication fails, so fails society.

    The same process is underway in America.

    “There is nothing new under the Sun. No, not one thing..” Ecclesiastes

    • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 11:31 am #

      Transistors?

      • K-Dog October 12, 2015 at 11:38 am #

        And video killed the radio star. But all rivers still flow to the sea and transistors mostly express the vanity of men.

        • Greg Knepp October 12, 2015 at 12:02 pm #

          Thank you K-dog. When I first read Sauerkraut’a reply, I had no idea what the hell he meant.

        • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 12:25 pm #

          Just gotta dispute this. Always hated that part of Ecclesiastes.

          “All rivers still flow to the sea,” true, for the moment. But with snow packs diminishing, the future is dry. Gives new meaning to the native American phrase, included in many treaties, “as long as the rivers run.”

          Transistors mostly express vanity? Gotta give you that one.

          • K-Dog October 12, 2015 at 4:31 pm #

            Point taken. The Colorado River no longer flows to the sea and the Tigris won’t either once Turkey finishes their dam building and Iraq goes bone dry. There will be other rivers which stop flowing as the deserts spread over the continents. We can be sure of that.

        • S M Tenneshaw October 16, 2015 at 5:41 am #

          Pop Muzik!

    • laceration October 12, 2015 at 11:58 am #

      It was earlier than that in Genesis–the part where Adam bit the apple from the tree of knowledge was the start of our alienation.

      • Greg Knepp October 12, 2015 at 12:09 pm #

        It certainly represents our separation from the wild kingdom – perhaps the beginning of the end for the clever ape (aka ‘the rapacious ape’)* To that extent I agree with you!

        I wish I knew who coined this term – maybe Jared Diamond, but I’m not certain…Anyone?

        • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 12:27 pm #

          “Naked ape” was Desmond Morris.

          • Greg Knepp October 12, 2015 at 12:39 pm #

            True, I have a first printing of ‘The Naked Ape’ on my bookshelf. My first wife gave it to me as a Christmas present back in ’68, and it is one helluva read to this day. But I believe ‘rapacious ape’ is of more recent origin..

          • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 7:30 pm #

            Was she saying you were the or a naked ape?

            There’s a great video of a Julia Roberts flirting with an Orangutan and when goes for her, half a dozen men have to pull him off. She was clearly very excited.

  21. seawolf77 October 12, 2015 at 11:35 am #

    You will always have serial killers and mass murders. Fact of life I’m afraid. Is it more prevalent today? Probably. Is there anything we can do about it? Probably not. Was America better before the suburbs? Yes but the world was worse. There’s only so much goodness to go around. So yes America waxes nostalgic. The fact is our frame of reference is skewed. When you leave Eden, life sucks.

    • cbeard October 13, 2015 at 6:56 am #

      Maybe an increase in serial killers and mass murder is in proportion to population increase.

  22. Buck Stud October 12, 2015 at 11:43 am #

    Thoughtful, powerful, nuanced essay this week: Bravo JHK!

  23. laceration October 12, 2015 at 11:44 am #

    Like so many times, your analysis is unsurpassed. The commentariat at my local news outlet, which I am sure is typical, gets whipped into a frenzy on this issue. The pro-gun faction is rabid and perverse. Tho I don’t really oppose them, their vitriol is indicative of some subliminal deeper meanings–I’d love to see a Kunstler dissection of that too. Also in the commentariat, for some comic relief, is the greatly out-shouted liberal/progressive wing with their impotent yearnings to regulate it to niceness. Of course they don’t question the strip mall geography of nowhere or driving cars everywhere all the time. 43000 deaths a year from auto “accidents” dwarf these shootings, but are never questioned. And, as per this article, the underlying alienation of the automobile culture is part of these mass shootings too.

  24. ccm989 October 12, 2015 at 11:53 am #

    Excellent post, as usual, Mr. Kunsler. Your words regarding the de-masculization of the American male is interesting but men have other ways of showing their value besides sports or wealth or the possession of military grade weapons. Frankly intelligence is a wonderful thing to possess and many people don’t seem to appreciate that. There are folks who actively put down anyone who tries to better themselves (whether through education or just reading for more factual information). It is this mind set that is screwed when trying to accomplish something positive results in insults, etc.

    For instance, we now have very low priced commodities including gas and food and health insurance. These are great things from the working class point of view. You can fill your tank, improve your health and have some money left over for decent food. This is no small thing but to read some articles, the writers act as though this is a bad thing! Geez the only people who suffer from low priced commodities are the CEOs who control their production! Everybody else wins!

    In terms of the rampant, out of control killing sprees with guns, there are many obvious things that could be done. If we could make it a national law to outlaw the civilian possession of all military-style weapons and multiple bullet clips, we’d go a long way in reducing mass murders at schools, malls, churches, etc. Treating weapon ownership with the same serious we treat car ownership would help too. Imagine if every weapon and its owner had to be tested, licensed and insured (just like we do with cars). But with the NRA stoking the paranoia of some people and (of course) paying off Congressmen to ignore gun regulation, we don’t get very far.

    The only way out of the gun madness is to vote — register to vote ahead of time (because there are many who are attempting to stop any Americans, especially of color, from voting) and then go out and VOTE on Tuesday, November 8, 2016. Your vote does make a difference. And if you are too busy to vote or don’t care, then don’t come and complain that the country is going to Hell in a Handbag. You didn’t vote so you have no say.

    • bobinboiseid October 12, 2015 at 2:51 pm #

      The way to get rid of all the guns is to faithfully watch your TV. The talking heads will tell you what to think, and then you can all march out and fulfill their orders at the voting booth. Be afraid, be very afraid.

      Personally, I am far more worried about my government than the occasional mass shooting aired repeatedly on the TV. I am even more worried, because all evidence points to all of these mass shootings being staged/perpetrated by our federal government as a means to disarm the American public.

      Do a little research on the Internet, and you will find video, inconsistencies in eyewitness statements, and first-hand witnesses who say all the shootings are false flag events.

  25. capt spaulding October 12, 2015 at 11:56 am #

    When I was in high school in Wisconsin, it was common during hunting season to bring your gun to school, and leave it in the office until school was done. That way you could go hunting as soon as school was out. I’m sure there are myriad reasons that those days are gone, but it’s too bad that things have gotten as ugly as they are now.

    • cbeard October 13, 2015 at 7:03 am #

      When I was in high school in South Georgia. The parking lot contained lots of pickups with gun racks, shotguns and deer rifles plainly visible. Most every young man had a pocketknife, some even wore sheath knives on their belt. Look how far we’ve come.

  26. TravisB October 12, 2015 at 11:57 am #

    Without community
    Without enmeshment in the place you live
    all political systems are bound to run the spectrum of tyranny

  27. Beryl of Oyl October 12, 2015 at 12:06 pm #

    Yes to paragraph six.
    Too many times, in an analysis of what is influencing these shooters, I see way too much blaming of men in general, white men in particular, or women. While these mass shooters almost all qualify as out of their minds, they still take their cues from our culture. This sums up those cues very well.
    As long as we keep blaming gun ownership in itself and ignore the other factors, we are naturally going to get angry pushback from those on the receiving end of the blame for something they didn’t do, and we will be that much farther from solving the problem. Violent and disturbed individuals will still be violent and disturbed without access to guns.

    • Helen Highwater October 12, 2015 at 1:10 pm #

      Yes, they’ll still be violent and disturbed but it wouldn’t be as easy for them to kill a whole bunch of people in a short time if they didn’t have a gun.

      • seawolf77 October 12, 2015 at 1:49 pm #

        They could use cars.

        • bobinboiseid October 12, 2015 at 2:57 pm #

          Very true, or even better yet, rent the largest U-Haul moving van you can find and drive it into a large crowd of people at high-speed. You could take out a lot more people that way then you could ever do with a semi automatic rifle.

          The truth is that alcohol and cars kill infinitely more people than guns ever will.

          • Lawfish October 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm #

            Or even better still, take that same U-Haul and fill it with ammonium nitrate and diesel fuel with a timed detonator and park it in front of an occupied multi-story building in Oklahoma.

      • BackRowHeckler October 12, 2015 at 2:02 pm #

        There was a school massacre in May, 1927, in Bath Michigan, 45 people killed. The murderer used dynamite, and a .38 cal. revolver.

        brh

      • Florida Power October 12, 2015 at 2:44 pm #

        Or car bombs. Or suicide bombers. The recent Turkish event makes our latest “mass” shooting look amateurish. Oh, but that was political so it’s different somehow…

        I am not one for statistics, but the USA ranks fairly low in per capita homicides.
        zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-11/maybe-its-not-guns-maybe-it%E2%80%99ts-people-holding-guns

        What is significant in the listing are the countries that rank above the USA in the list — such as Honduras, El Salvador, Mexico, and others South of the border. Some have noted that this border is wide open. Some even favor the concept of a wide open border. If the USA cannot keep illegal drugs from entering how do we propose to keep “illegal” firearms from entering?

        I’ve got it: declare a “War on Guns.” That’ll do it.

        • truthteller October 12, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

          When the US government bombs, kills doctors and patients in hospitals, that’s political, when it helps SA wreak bloody havoc on innocents in Yemen, that’s political.

          • Florida Power October 12, 2015 at 3:36 pm #

            I submit the “mass” shootings in the USA are political as well — which includes the politics of Big Pharma and the Psychiatric -Industrial-Complex in addition to the politics of alienation that our host has described this week.

  28. uslabor October 12, 2015 at 12:10 pm #

    I agree: there are too many guns out there for any new gun control legislation to be effective. Guns owners would never willingly surrender their weapons to the government because of any new laws; at least I hope they wont.

  29. Rodster October 12, 2015 at 12:17 pm #

    As usual an excellent Post by JHK. My problem with JHK’S dissection of the current state of where was are as a Nation is precisely what the Left wanted and started way back in the 1960’s. I lived thru that era. What the Political Left wanted was to grow their voter base and make them more dependent on the Federal Government.

    The Left were hellbent on first removing removing God from society. Then the Left worked on destroying masculinity by endorsing and embracing the feminist Women’s Liberation Movement.

    Over several decades the Left has been successful in making Males total idiots and bumbling fools and making Women just the total opposite. Back in the 90’s you could see the Male coming under assault with commercials showing how the male was the idiot and he had no chance to succeed without his wife or girlfriend.

    Then there was an assault on marriage and the Left was successful taxing to death married couples. Then the Left was successful replacing the term “husband and wife” with “Partners” a Gay lexicon.

    So congratulations America you set out to destroy your Country and mission accomplished.

    • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 12:37 pm #

      Well, Rod, have you heard of Ronald Reagan? He began the evisceration of the US economy by offshoring it. He began the stratospheric rise of the corporations by deregulating them. He began the demise of the working class by de-unionizing them. He began the rise of the oligarchs by reducing their taxes. He began the destruction of infrastructure by reducing funding. For starters.

      Ronald Reagan, as we all know, was some potent lefty.

      • seawolf77 October 12, 2015 at 12:44 pm #

        It all started with Ray-gun.

      • capt spaulding October 12, 2015 at 2:11 pm #

        well said, and totally true.

      • malthuss October 12, 2015 at 2:36 pm #

        CLINTON.

        NAFTA.

        • capt spaulding October 12, 2015 at 7:38 pm #

          Clinton was responsible for NAFTA, along with almost every Republican in congress. He was no better than Reagan.

      • truthteller October 12, 2015 at 3:15 pm #

        It’s really not “left” and “right” it’s nationalism versus internationalism, multinationalism offshoring, corporate control as depicted being the latter.

    • Helen Highwater October 12, 2015 at 1:11 pm #

      Who is this “Left” you are blaming everything on? People who aren’t Republicans?

      • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

        You don’t even believe in the Nation State to begin with, right? You’re a Leftist then.

        • truthteller October 12, 2015 at 3:16 pm #

          There are Left nationalists.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 3:21 pm #

            I know that, but she doesn’t. She believes in a world without borders.

    • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 1:59 pm #

      Rod, let me put it more plainly.

      If you’re poor, it’s because you voted for it.

      And all you got in return for your vote, are some phrases which help you blame the people who tried to help you. Like a kid who bites the dentist.

      Oh, and by the way, you also voted for the enslavement of your children.

      But, if you don’t like it and come to my door asking why I have food and you do not, I’ve finished trying to help you and your like. Further, I have taken a page from your book, about protecting myself and mine. When the police arrive to protect private property, or as we say, help the haves, you can only hope that the dreaded lefties will have abolished ‘for-profit’ prisons.

  30. wholy1 October 12, 2015 at 12:45 pm #

    Non sequitur?

    How in the hell-o do ya expect people to protect themselves against Fast & Furious-armed gang-bangers let alone gov’t thug/knuckle-draggers with assault-grade weapons?

    What about the Big Pharma SSRI issue? Reports are showing alleging the “aberrant” was rip to the tits on psychotropics as usual.

    Love your prose, wish I had the talent also, but respectfully submit ya blew it this edition, James.

    • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 12:50 pm #

      Big Pharma is certainly an aspect of the mental health care system, which seems dysfunctional to me. But do you not think that JHK has a point in raising other issues?

      • wholy1 October 12, 2015 at 3:56 pm #

        Well, considering the subject matter and the FACT that Big Pharma meds seems to be a regular factor in most of these shootings, might it be a relevant issue to address in the context?

  31. TravisB October 12, 2015 at 12:46 pm #

    Perhaps a more fundamental issue not often observed is natural rhythms and osculations. Mass societies have always diluted back into barbarism, then back into mass societies, yadda yadda. So all of these things from wars, to high-tech surveillance, to mass killings, to deep alienation and depression, are all part and parcel to our specific path back, or perhaps a collective unconscious expression of our longing to un-civilize. Maybe. There are after all much older narratives at play then any culture or philosophy. Older by millions and billions of years.
    So calm down. Go outside for a walk in your neighborhood. Talk to your neighbors. Learn how to make stuff. It’s so easy it’s ridiculous.

  32. sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 1:03 pm #

    Every successful society has learned how to deal with its surplus males. For the better part of a century, there was an anarchic means for young males to make their mark, even if it was only to be a mostly drunken trades unionist. The jobs were there. Trades training and self respect was there.

    There was a respectable role to play and a route to regular sex. Now, not so much. We have pillaged the land, and are in a state of economic contraction. But the question remains, “How to deal with surplus males?”

    In established, stabilized societies, a common theme was to isolate young males and control them. In an army. The leaders made them kill each other until they were old enough to get tired of it. Then the survivors were allowed to integrate into society.

    It’s a tried and true solution, but nuclear weapons have made it obsolete. We are now in uncharted territory, and don’t seem to have much of a clue about how to survive it.

    • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 1:10 pm #

      Unless, or course, you are a conspiracy theorist, and suspect that North Korea is a controlled experiment.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 3:17 pm #

      You send them out conquering and to conquer like the Muslims are doing to Europe.

      The best thing would be to “conquer” Space. Let men become rich mining the asteroid belt. Lot of them would get killed in the process too.

      Of course we don’t have excess males to begin with since the birth rate is below replacement. Let’s face it: the problem is minorities not Whites.

      • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 7:18 pm #

        I absolutely agree about space. Every little boy’s dream.

        White males below replacement? Good. Not so many to suffer in the coming population “correction”.

    • TravisB October 12, 2015 at 6:21 pm #

      Excess males? This is probably the stupidest theory I’ve ever heard.

      • TravisB October 12, 2015 at 6:24 pm #

        Never mind. Skorenzy has the dumbest one. Yours is the runner up though.

        • TravisB October 12, 2015 at 6:25 pm #

          Actually they are equally dumb. There’s some true equality for ya.

      • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 6:52 pm #

        Excess males in an evolutionary sense. Males can have 100 offspring a year, females only one. Sense an imbalance there?

        • TravisB October 13, 2015 at 12:10 am #

          I think you may be overthinking your underthinking. Are you implying that every sperm is male? Or perhaps some male conspiracy to blow wads all over the world is afoot? I’m sorry but your theory is just the worst kind of awful.

          • sauerkraut October 13, 2015 at 1:04 am #

            I did not think that my point was so obscure.

            By “excess males” I meant “surplus to biological requirements”. By that I mean that the race continues just fine, with the same number of live births, even if a lot of males aren’t in the breeding pool.

            Conspiracy? EHHH???

    • lsjogren October 13, 2015 at 11:04 am #

      And now we plan to bring in a bunch of young male “refugees” from a wartorn nation that is chock full of terrorists and other unsavory types, with no background checks, because there is no way to do a background check on them.

      Really sharp guys we’ve got running our country these days!

  33. BackRowHeckler October 12, 2015 at 1:59 pm #

    It appears both the shooter in Oregon and the shooter down here in Newtown, Ct, had a condition called ‘Asbergers Syndrome’, apparently a form a autism. We’re assured, however, that young men with Asbergers don’t pose any more threat than anyone else. Maybe not, I don’t know. Also, both young men had an unusual relationship with their mothers, and it was these mothers who actually bought the weapons used in the mass murders.

    Those facts don’t detract from Jim’s point, on what an alienated place this has become, and getting worse by the year.

    We recently learned here in CT the limited access highways cutting thru the state will be widened once again, a trillion $$$ project, for example, instead of 16 lanes entering and leaving New Haven, it will be 20 lanes. (why not just pave over the whole state, save the trouble of endless and disruptive road construction?)

    brh

    • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 2:04 pm #

      Good points, brh.

    • Florida Power October 12, 2015 at 3:49 pm #

      “Asperger’s.” Alienation, hard-wired… Back when Ben in the Graduate was given the one word advice “Plastics” little did we know…

  34. MisterDarling October 12, 2015 at 2:19 pm #

    Mister Kunstler produces a pretty tight piece of social criticism this morning – hitting the main points, utilizing interesting turns of phrase to encourage greater appreciation for the subject, etc.

    We need these situation reports, periodically. I’m reminded of that ensign yelling out depth readings from the ‘tieffenmesser’ in the U-boat drama ‘Das Boot’… While rivets pop out of the hull and ricochet like bullets around the interior.

    I’m not at all interested in joining the gun-ownership debate. That’s a foregone conclusion that no amount of voting in rigged elections will alter. If you still believe that horseshit, feel free to amuse yourself – by yourself – keeping your unsolicited advice to yourself.

    Regarding constructive engagement of this topic: Mark Ames produced an insightful book called ‘Going Postal’ which provides an in-depth, unstinting investigation of the rise of American mass-killings at work & school as well as useful guidance.

    Anyone else read the book? Love to chat about that.

    Cheers!

  35. John Howard October 12, 2015 at 2:38 pm #

    Here is what we need to do: Prohibit creating a person except by joining a sperm of a man and an egg of a woman, protect the reproduction rights of marriage, and void all same sex marriages in every state.

    • Walter B October 12, 2015 at 2:54 pm #

      No but I read William Cooper’s book Behold a Pale Horse in which he foretells of this mass shooting eventuality over twenty years ago. If for no other reason that an unarmed public is far less trouble to a corrupt and lethargic sellout government than an armed one would be. It is clearly in the best interests of the Criminals In Office to make and keep the general public as harmless as possible lest they come to realize that just sitting there taking it will eventually lead to their own pathetic demise and attempt to do something about it. Personally, I believe that the drugs, porn/entertainment and alcohol will do more than satiate the Mindless Minions, be they armed or not.

      • John Howard October 12, 2015 at 3:20 pm #

        I’m not just opining here, I am suggesting a specific action that we need to take: we need to call our members of Congress to pass the Natural Marriage and Reproduction Act to void all same sex marriages, protect natural reproduction rights of marriage, and prohibit creating a baby except by joining a sperm of a man and an egg of a woman.

        Do you see how it would immediately change everything?

        • Lawfish October 12, 2015 at 3:34 pm #

          Dude, you think there’s any other way to make a baby other than the joining of a sperm and egg? You’re giving those “homer-sexuals” a lot more credit than they deserve.

          • John Howard October 12, 2015 at 3:53 pm #

            And your point is what?

          • Lawfish October 12, 2015 at 4:22 pm #

            My point is you’re advocating passing legislation to make illegal that which is impossible.

          • John Howard October 12, 2015 at 5:18 pm #

            Who knows if it is impossible or not, it doesn’t matter. It would end same sex marriage and preserve everyone’s natural reproductive rights, and end the national malaise of dejected males.

            We just need to make law reflect reality, and stop insisting that males have a right to be pregnant and mate with other males, and that females have the same right to impregnate a woman as a male does. Why would you oppose saying that?

      • wholy1 October 12, 2015 at 3:50 pm #

        Sooooooooooo . . . RELEVANT!

        • John Howard October 12, 2015 at 3:54 pm #

          It’s absolutely relevant, and essential.

      • seawolf77 October 12, 2015 at 4:33 pm #

        Yes but mass shootings could embolden gun rights as well as diminish them. Imagine an armed citizen taking out one of these mass murderers in mid killing. Would change the whole equation.

        • Florida Power October 12, 2015 at 4:47 pm #

          Firearms are used often by non-law enforcement citizens to deter/neutralize criminals but this is not reported nationally as “news.” Every month American Rifleman lists some of these in their Armed Citizen column.

          • No1kiwi October 12, 2015 at 9:32 pm #

            Florida,

            The instances where firearms are used by non-law enforcement citizens to deter/neutralize criminals are few and far between. I’m sure “American Rifleman” has a tough time coming up with a list every month in their monthly Armed Citizen column.

            These few instances are overshadowed by the tragic overwhelming number of instances we see on TV every day where guns are the primary facilitator of senseless murder, and suicides, of our fellow Americans.

            History will not be kind in its judgment of the American gun culture, and its slavish enforcement of the ill-conceived, and long out-dated, and no longer relevant 2nd Amendment.

            It will a great day for the American people, and in American history, when this Amendment is repealed.

          • Florida Power October 13, 2015 at 9:47 am #

            No1: I have no clue how difficult a time they have in compiling their list from local news sources. Somehow it is always there, and the instances are not “few”. I invite you to suspend your disbelief and check it for yourself.

            You are free to express yourself in your arms-free life and are free to agitate against whatever amendments you choose. While changing the hearts and minds of those in the gun culture don’t forget to convert the criminals.

            I agree a firearm, especially a handgun, facilitates lethality more so than other weapons. This is why we do not take knives to gunfights. There are probably some suicides that would not have occurred otherwise.

            Disarming others while ignoring the reality of wide-open borders and Big-Pharma induced psychosis is to exist in a fairy-tale land — just to name two factors, ignoring everyday criminality. Perhaps in some Utopian future all the world will be at peace and all will co-operate toward The Good. But until the lion lies down with the lamb I reserve my right to carry a sidearm when in the Pecos wilderness whether threatened by bear, big cat, or two-legged predator.

        • bobinboiseid October 13, 2015 at 9:36 am #

          …but it wouldn’t make the Nightly News because it doesn’t fit the chosen narrative demonizing guns.

  36. RocketDoc October 12, 2015 at 2:53 pm #

    I understand the happy motoring disgust on your part but can the suburbs in many cases be redeemed? Say like villages of old? Currently it is INCONCEIVABLE but given some brownouts and/or bank issues could they not be re-purposed as a subset of local government without going all militia like Fallujah? One thing is needful–mortgage forgiveness. Then everyone can stay in their home and learn to work with their neighbors. And as for the bankers–pay them with funny money.

  37. lpat October 12, 2015 at 2:56 pm #

    We have the last few decades engaged in the sport of acquisition. Our closets and storage facilities are jammed to overflowing with crap. Including guns.

    Excellent post.

    • wholy1 October 12, 2015 at 3:48 pm #

      So, do think that primary need/use for arms is “sport”?

  38. br October 12, 2015 at 3:11 pm #

    What nobody has mentioned is that over 90% of the mass shootings have involved males under the age of 25 who were on SSRI antidepressant drugs or trying to withdraw from them!

    It is a black label warning in the prescribing information that men under twenty five can go into a homicidal rage or become suicidal while taking these drugs. Although the chances are about one percent, with over 100,000 outstanding prescriptions for these drugs, that’s the potential for 1000 rage monsters on the loose!

    The FDA should ban these drugs outright. If not that then doctors who prescribe these drugs to males 25 and under should be held liable, unless the drug is given in an institutional setting where the patient can be monitored 24/7 and access to weapons is impossible.

  39. newworld October 12, 2015 at 3:54 pm #

    I agree with a lot of this week’s piece, but in the end since the Left drives the debate and always claims the Left is morally superior then most of the fault lies with the Left not the hapless reactionairies.

    In 1961 the establishment was still largely patriotic in nature they could have taken gun ownership to a Swiss model and the 2A would have survived. But the 1960s brought the “burn it all down” Left and you cannot put that back in the toothpaste tube.

    Now what do we have but loathsome feminists in synch with pop culture mavens destroying humanity.

    We could and can survive a factory being shut down, we cannot survive feminism and the awful propaganda its hive injects into what passes for society.

    • miasmo October 12, 2015 at 4:03 pm #

      “the Left drives the debate and always claims the Left is morally superior”

      I don’t know what planet you live on, but here on earth we have Fox News, Talk Radio, the WSJ editorial page, a mainstream media owned by mega-corporations tied in with the military industrial complex, a federal government staffed with drones from the neocon-funded think tanks, etc.

      Wall Street, global corporations, and the arms industry run the country, but the problem is feminists! That’s fucking hilarious.

      • No1kiwi October 12, 2015 at 6:57 pm #

        Maismo,

        Sadly you are the only poster who realizes the truth, and is making sense on cluster-fuck nation today. In the 60’s we lefties were on our way to making America an egalitarian social democracy. With Universal healthcare, paid parental leave, income equality, paid for tertiary education, a non-intervention foreign policy, equal rights and pay for women, sane gun control Laws, and a social safety net for the poor and mentally ill. All the things educated people see and admire in mature social democracy’s like those in Sweden, and say, New Zealand.

        Unfortunately, we were overrun by the right-wing, banking-cabal, neoliberal wacko’s, with their semi-fascist capitalistic agenda that gave rise to the all the contributing factors to our countries decline and collapse you mention in your post. It started with Ronald Reagan, and went down hill from there.

        Attributing the decline and collapse of our country to lefties, feminists, peacnicks, and social democrats is not only fucking hilarious, but also delusional.

        Go Bernie.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 7:17 pm #

          So if New Zealand goes Chinese, you think they wont discriminate against Whites? In other words, only Whites are morally inferiors, everyone else is fine? And you think THAT is a headset that could have ever lead to peace and prosperity? Encouraging non-White immigration (whether it was needed or not) and then putting them over Whites and encouraging them to kick and spit on Whites?

          That is what you sickos think. And the Maori are worried about losing their country to Asians. Only they are sane enough and not beaten down enough to speak out.

          • No1kiwi October 12, 2015 at 7:57 pm #

            Janos,

            “you sickos”….really Janos. We are trying to have an adult discussion here. You drag down the tone of this forum with your play ground insults!

            From your previous posts, we already know that have very little knowledge of New Zealand’s social democratic governance, it’s native population, or it’s immigration policies.

            New Zealanders live harmoniously alongside their Maori brothers, and are managing to assimilate Asian immigrants into their society. Last time I looked, they are not running around the world trying to force democracy on other countries by killing their populace.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 8:17 pm #

            I remember you from before. Your Government is committed to making Whites a minority and you’re full of masochistic glee at the idea.

            Found this in a couple of seconds. Maori frightened at the coming Asian partnership – as well they should be. Check out the comments: Maori hatemonger takes on White race mixer. Obviously your attempt to snow us about an idyllic New Zealand is a lie.

            m.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=11478168

          • miasmo October 12, 2015 at 10:22 pm #

            Janos’ definition of “sicko” is apparently anyone not concerned with racial purity and identifying oneself by ones race. And he likes Hitler.

        • BackRowHeckler October 12, 2015 at 11:08 pm #

          Hey Kiwi, worry about yourself, not us. We don’t need your advice on our Constitution.

          The Chinese Navy is growing stronger and beginning to flex its muscle; NZ seems like a ripe plum, easy pickens’ for the up and coming Chinese, perhaps backed by NKorean Marine Infantry. You ‘Kiwis’ should last for about 3 days, and don’t come to us looking for any help because we’re not gonna save you ass.

          brh

          • No1kiwi October 13, 2015 at 10:46 am #

            Brh,

            If the “help” the good old US of A is going to give to New Zealand to save their ass is the same “help” the illustrious US war machine gave to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Somalia and Syria……then god help the poor Kiwi’s.

            Unlike the US, China is not a militarist, imperialist, war-mongering nation lusting after world hegemony. They have never waged war on anybody.

            They realize that New Zealand, and the US for that matter, are valuable trading partners, and eager buyers of their mass produced goods. To attack their customers would not be in there best interest.

            Looking at every other nation as a military threat to the US, is part of the cultural problem JFK is alluding to. The rampant militarism in the US is going to be its undoing.

            BTW backrow, I am a US citizen, and have every right to make constructive suggestions as to how we could improve our Constitution. I believe, along with many other sane thinking Americans, that repealing the 2nd Amendment would be an improvement to the living document that is our Constitution..

        • bobinboiseid October 13, 2015 at 9:44 am #

          In theory, lefties are responsible for everything that has happened. The right-wing mindset does not like change, so if nothing would’ve changed, we would still be hunter gatherers living in small bands on a pristine, unspoiled earth.

          • No1kiwi October 13, 2015 at 12:02 pm #

            Our Founding Fathers were reasonable men. They surely never imagined a country where an amendment designed to keep the British from invading, at a time when guns could only fire one shot at a time with questionable accuracy, would lead to almost weekly mass shootings of innocent citizens.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 6:48 pm #

      And the evil patriarchy has installed the harpies into every college in the land. And the White Racists have made Affirmative Action the Law of the Land – putting their brothers on the lowest rung of society.

      You are utterly confused as usual. The people in power are only White and Male in appearance – their hearts are just cash registers. They aren’t even human anymore. That’s the price of power in America for Whites: complete betrayal of your own people. Blacks and Hispanics, some perhaps, but not so much.

    • No1kiwi October 12, 2015 at 9:14 pm #

      Janos,

      Did you actually read that link you posted to the right-wing, xenophobic, New Zealand newspaper, the NZ Herald? How about the (12) comments accusing the author of being a racist.

      If you actually had read it, you, even with your stilted ideologically mind set, would have determined that it was not addressing an issue with Maori fear of an “Asian” Partnership.

      All it was saying was that the TPPA trade agreement will be disastrous for ALL New Zealand citizens.

      Corporate greed doesn’t recognize race or creed, nor the sovereign rights of each country’s citizens.

      This secretive deal, masterminded by American corporatist lobbyists, is bad news for all of us. Like a cancer, it will creep into our lives and wreak havoc. For all of us. Absolutely NO to the TPPA! Can we agree on that?

  40. newworld October 12, 2015 at 4:02 pm #

    Now its a political battle to the death where Obama and other demagogs equate political conservatives and their guns as the Stalin era “wreckers”, and you ask why we cling to our guns.

    Ask the thousands of those bitter clingers in Roseberg Oregon who stood on the side of the road telling Obama to go get bent, (good advice)

    We know the politicians cash Big Pharma checks, we know the politicians in Chicago won’t prosecute people who commit crimes with guns because those people vote D party, its true the Chicago Ds blocked a bill because it would punish the people who actually pull the trigger and put their voters in jail. We know that our broken borders are allowing in criminals and terrorists but all we get is political posturing name calling in return.

    It is why any normal person buys a gun.

    • No1kiwi October 12, 2015 at 7:47 pm #

      Newworld.

      No, normal people buy guns for hunting and target shooting.

      Wacko 2nd Amendment supporters, like those “bitter clingers in Roseburg”, buy guns because they are uneducated, paranoid and delusional.

      Sadly, the number of terrorists killed within our borders is a statistical blip compared to the number of innocent people killed by crazy Americans with guns. Americans cling to their guns in the face of all statistics, rational analysis, and vastly better outcomes in all other countries with sane gun control, because they paranoid, intellectually immature, and delusional.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 8:23 pm #

        We don’t have a gun problem, we have a minority problem. Subtract them, and White crime levels are comparable with Europe or White, rural Canada.

        Wish I could ask you about the level of Maori crime, but I just don’t trust you to answer honestly. The natives of Hawaii have become famous for the racist violence against Whites.

        • miasmo October 12, 2015 at 10:26 pm #

          If only their were some “final solution” for the “problem” of the existence of non-whites, then there would finally be a utopia for the master race. Right, Janos?

          • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 11:29 pm #

            Don’t be ridiculous. They live in their lands and we live in ours – except you don’t want us to have any lands of our own and that going to lead to our genocide. You’re the Genocidal Maniac here, not me. Hope you have a suitable outfit to match your mindset. Don’t forget a Siamese Lap Cat as befits a Bond Villain.

          • S M Tenneshaw October 16, 2015 at 6:00 am #

            Pssttt…Janos. Try civic nationalism. It’s smoother, less lethal, and a DAMN sight more American than your blut-und-Adolf version.

      • bobinboiseid October 14, 2015 at 8:45 am #

        You forgot about buying guns for self-defense against criminals who tend not to pay attention to laws prohibiting guns.
        If there weren’t so many crazy Americans without guns, we wouldn’t have so many mass shootings.
        No1kiwi, you need to go buy yourself a gun and go out shooting so that you have some factual basis for your pontification.

    • BackRowHeckler October 12, 2015 at 9:58 pm #

      We got some tight gun laws here, the tightest. One result, an uptick in stabbings, arson murder, and old fashioned beating people to death on the street. (95% in the Ghetto)

      5 people shot to death since Sunday in Hartford, Waterbury and New Haven (where no white man dare tread) In short you can wipe your ass with all these useless lefty gun bills for all the good they do.

      brh

  41. Arkie October 12, 2015 at 4:04 pm #

    I have question that I always ask when a mass shooting happens. I have never been able to get an answer. Question: Do you remember when postal workers used to be in the news constantly for shooting up a postal facility? That all stopped more than a few years ago, what did the U.S. Post Office do to stop this? We need to know and apply it to our present problem and quit using these mass shootings as a opportunity to beat up on the Second Amendment.

    • Frankiti October 12, 2015 at 5:27 pm #

      They made getting qualified for 100% disability a lot easier.

  42. seawolf77 October 12, 2015 at 4:27 pm #

    When you realize that Jonestown and the Manson Murders are not what they are portrayed to be, you start to question all of these mass killings.

  43. carboncommute October 12, 2015 at 4:38 pm #

    1. A nation physically arranged on-the-ground to produce maximum loneliness

    2. arranged economically to produce maximum anxiety

    3. disposed socially to produce maximum alienation.”

    Hi Jim,

    I’ve been a long time follower; read The Geography of Nowhere, The Long Emergency, World Made by Hand, and The Witch of Hebron. Also been listening and now re-listening to the podcasts you did with Duncan. Really great information.

    Your points 1-3 are certainly outlined in all of the above literature, but I’d like if you could go on and elaborate here on the forum what you meant more specifically about how we as a collective society have alienated ourselves from each other.

    Thanks.

    • John Howard October 12, 2015 at 5:26 pm #

      I’d say, we have alienated each other by rejecting the idea that men and women have different rights. We took seriously the liberal idea that everyone has identity cal rights, including the right to be pregnant and the right to impregnate. We individualized the right to procreate, imagining that single people have the are right to procreate as married people.

      To end the alienation, we need to get Congress to pass the Natural Marriage and Reproduction Act to prohibit creating a person except by joining a sperm of a man and an egg of a woman, void all same sex marriages, and protect the reproduction rights of marriage.

      • John Howard October 12, 2015 at 5:28 pm #

        Damn autocorrect.

      • No1kiwi October 12, 2015 at 8:17 pm #

        Howard,

        Care to enlighten us as to how my neighbor, who is a guy, marrying the guy he loves harms “Natural” marriage. How does that effect me, my wife of 45-years, and our marriage?

        When you are done. Then explain to us what in the hell a “Natural” marriage is.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 8:28 pm #

          Sounds like you wear the dress over there. First define what natural is. If you don’t believe the word has meaning, then why continue? Then define what man is. If you believe man is an animal, then why continue. Only passing those two tests qualifies you to ask about marriage.

        • John Howard October 13, 2015 at 12:07 am #

          Two males don’t have a right to procreate together, so them being married separates marriage from procreation rights.

          • S M Tenneshaw October 16, 2015 at 6:03 am #

            WTF has that got to do with ANYTHING?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 6:59 pm #

      America used to be overwhelmingly White and Christian. Now it isn’t. The Left loathes traditional Americans and mocks them at every turn. The Media is own by a small group of individuals from an ethnic group that has always loathed White Christians and at one point lead Communism. And it encourages other races to loathe them too – and it eagerly helped open our borders in 1965 and again now to Mexico – another people who have deep grudges against us.

      I could go on: Women, Gays, now new sexual minorities. How could Americans not distrust each other at this point since we have nothing in common anymore? American needs to end by splitting into a half dozen or more different nations.

      Ask yourself this: Why did the Establishment allow a vicious work of hatred, Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History of the United States” to become a standard text used in every college in America? Obviously there has been a Revolution and the old rulers no longer rule. They were stupid in allowing such filth to be promulgated, but by the time they wake up, it was already to late. And truthfully, many of them went over to the side of the Enemy.

      • No1kiwi October 12, 2015 at 8:35 pm #

        Janos,

        What rubbish! Why have I decided to debate these issues with you today? Other posters to this forum already know that they are casting pearls before swine in engaging with you on your pet subjects. But here goes.

        Actually, despite your ridiculous claim, America used to be inhabited by native Americans, who were not white and not Christian. Sadly, they were wiped out by murdering white imperial colonists, who we know by the atrocities they committed certainly were not Christians.

        The media is owned by a small group of individuals. You are correct. A group of right wing, Zionist, crony capitalists. Name me left wing radio station, a left wing newspaper, or a left wing TV station. If you think the New York Times and MSNBC are liberal and progressive, you don’t understand the terms.

        If you by telling the truth, makes Howard Zinn’s ” A Peoples History of the United States” a vicious work of hatred, then you obviously have also have a slim grasp of the terms “hatred” and “Truth”.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2015 at 12:30 am #

          Look doofus, you obviously haven’t thought it through at all in an existential sense. You owe everything to the White Conquerors of New Zealand as we owe everything to the White Conquerors of North America. I honor them and you curse them – but still cling to the benefits that have accrued to you from the conquest. Thus you existentially inauthentic – a hypocrite in the vernacular like all Liberals. If you would become real and retain your suicidal idealism (as if the old Maoris weren’t warlike cannibals), you must give up everything you have to a Maori charity and spend the rest of your life serving them somehow, perhaps as some kind of White slave.

          But of course you’re not going to do that since your idealism ultimately isn’t real either. It’s all about being better than other Whites – normal Whites who honor their heritage. But you’re not better, you are an arrogant freak who uses morality and minorities for some kind of weird high – basically the feeling of being one of the Elect or saved. You’re not like those OTHER Whites – you’re one of the good ones! Tell it to the Brown Thug just before he crushes your skull.

          Political Correctness is a Religion, a perverse amalgam of Christianity and Marxism.

          • elysianfield October 13, 2015 at 11:28 am #

            Janos,
            I heard my father once say…”…Yes, we stole the land from the Indians…who did they steal it from?.” Perspective.

        • Florida Power October 13, 2015 at 10:17 am #

          Here we go again with the “indigenous” myth. Thank you, No.1. I had forgotten that the tribes inhabiting the “New World” when the Europeans arrived sprung ab initio from the soil itself and had no history of displacing/eliminating others who inhabited the land before them.

  44. Kevvia Knack October 12, 2015 at 4:49 pm #

    I am a Manson historian. The amount of disinformation and apocrypha surrounding the case is astounding.

    • sauerkraut October 12, 2015 at 7:08 pm #

      Can you share a little, please?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 8:00 pm #

      Is Charlie really a great musician like everyone says? Did he really try and start a Race War with the Blacks? And since the Media seems to want that, is he really to be blamed (for that)?

      • malthuss October 12, 2015 at 8:59 pm #

        What I have read is Manson is short.
        When younger he was in [juvenile hall? prison?] custody and may have been raped by Blacks.

        In any case, he is a serial killer.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 11:32 pm #

          Well I was trying to go with the romantic flow the poster seemed to be initiating.

      • seawolf77 October 16, 2015 at 10:39 am #

        I don’t know about great, but the Beach Boys and Gun’s & Roses covered his songs, so he must have had something on the ball. But was he this maniacal, demonic cult leader…absolutely not. That picture was manufactured. The end of the 1960’s was manufactured through Altamont and the Manson Murders, just like its beginning was manufactured by the Beatles after JFK.

  45. Frankiti October 12, 2015 at 5:23 pm #

    This is classic Kunstler. Hitting all the big points he created a vocabulary for way back in the 90s. This is why I read him every week and look forward to his podcasts. Every now and then you get a real gem like today’s posting.

    What Americans avoid talking about is the elephant in the room, another one of the great taboos; the failure of American kulture.
    The fact that the cause of American gun violence is the “American” portion of that phrase.

    Nobody really believes that short of firearm, and the even more effective, ammunition prohibition and confiscation will we ever put a scratch on the surface of gun violence. Perhaps holding the ammunition and firearms manufactures liable is the only way to throw a wrench in the system. But that will never happen, and is only masking the symptom… Americans wanting to kill innocent Americans.

    We have people who grew up in depressingly barren suburbs watching staggeringly violent films and games (this is a nation that freaks out at Janet Jackson’s pasty covered tit-the human body- but doesn’t bat a lash at some sociopathic Saw movie or crime scene TV show and its 7 spin-offs or points for body count video games) that don’t learn to socialize or adapt to the civic collective save the checkout at Target or Chick-fil-a… (buying shit)… Today’s ‘merica is an empty existence built completely upon buying stuff you don’t need with money you don’t have without a care to the repercussions on the environment, your personal debt, or society. There is no unifying ethno-history between us, we look and do not see a brother related through distant generations like the Catalans, Scots, Turks, or Somalis do… we see strangers… competitors in the way of our nut, the American dream. Jefferson has been stuffed in the closet of history and Washington can’t be too far behind. Howard Zinn is clapping in his casket… the old WASPs are finally exterminated. What’s killing Americans is this depressingly shitty American existence. We used to build great places, where people still want to visit and will overpay to reside; Charleston, Baltimore’s inner harbor, Savannah, Alexandria, Georgetown, Portland, Wilmington NC… but now we build empty characterless places to sleep in between the places we slave and shop. Forced interaction happens at schools… no wonder why so many get murdered there.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 7:06 pm #

      Get rid of the minorities and the Class Tyrants who use them for votes and cheap labor and we’ll rebuild on an even vaster scale once we solve the energy crisis. If we can’t, they we’ll create a beautiful, heavily armed European type Nation – a sane Sweden or Switzerland.

      If we can’t get rid of the Blacks and Browns, then our future is to be Brazil North. Enclaves of Wealth and Whites, surrounded by seas of angry savages.

      • malthuss October 12, 2015 at 9:01 pm #

        Brazil North. No. Brazil has gasoline from sugarcane. We dont.

        As you know, USA future is dim.

        • BackRowHeckler October 12, 2015 at 11:19 pm #

          Brazil is going down, too.

          The president is a communist, the economy has collapsed, gangs are rampant, murder is commonplace, the police are brutal, environmental damage is monumental, rivers are polluted.

          In short, another Latin American sh=thole, switchgrass into autofuel not withstanding.

          We have relatives there and this is what they tell me. They want to get out.

          brh

          • malthuss October 13, 2015 at 1:44 pm #

            Is it a ‘North – South’ divide?
            the south is riche and the north is poor?

    • seawolf77 October 16, 2015 at 2:40 pm #

      Agreed. America is a soulless, ultra-competitive rat trap. We have no real emotion. We’re animated zombies. What emotion we do emote is vile and depressing, like zombies. That is why “Walking Dead” is so popular. It’s the new “All in the Family.”

  46. shotho October 12, 2015 at 5:24 pm #

    Mr. K has succinctly expressed the basic problem of American society today; the alienation of man into atoms that have only tenuous connections with each other. This doesn’t mean we have lost our humanity. It only means we have lost the productive means to organize and operate in groups that give us a place in society that’s meaningful and supportive. We see this most especially in young people of all races who wander around with nothing to do and nowhere to go. I remember a video I would show students in the 1980’s of a black teacher in inner city Philadelphia. She explained that we are on the verge of creating “monsters” who will devour us if we don’t give them a way to enter society with some self-esteem and that the only way to do that is if they can make achievements that bring some sense of honor;something that can’t be given, but must be earned. I think we are already there.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 7:09 pm #

      Young Massai used to go out and kill a Lion with a spear. Young Blacks go out and knock out Whites – or kill them in the case of some gang initiations.

      You are still believing the lie of the multi-racial society. When America was great, the Blacks were kept separate.

      • malthuss October 12, 2015 at 9:01 pm #

        1965. USA was about 90% White.

  47. Kevvia Knack October 12, 2015 at 5:38 pm #

    It is difficult to connect with other people when you barely have a connection to YOURSELF. The fundamental problem facing working class Anglos is “denarration”—the lives of lower class white men in this country lack narrative structure. They do not have any type of ethnic or cultural identity (Latinos and Asians DO)…they are without a religious identity (Latinos have Catholicism), they do not have the strong family ties of other races, and they likely lack any type of geographic identity. Throw in poverty and you’ve got the makings for emotional and mental illness.

    • John Howard October 12, 2015 at 6:31 pm #

      We don’t even have a sexual identity, because liberals have neutered white men by saying they have a right to be pregnant just like women do, and women have as much right to impregnate a woman as men do. I think it can be traced to Life Of Brian, and impressionable young minds taking the joke too seriously.

      It’d really help to say that at least men are uniquely men and have a right to be fathers of their own children. And to say that women uniquely have a right to be pregnant and have children with men. At least let us have a sexual identity.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 7:25 pm #

        You ask much. For decades, thousands of people majored in gender studies, developing dozens of genders. Those people need jobs and now is the payday. Seriously though, the Elite think decades and even centuries ahead. The deconstruction of gender is part of a long term plan. They are playing chess and we are playing checkers.

        • John Howard October 12, 2015 at 7:41 pm #

          But all we have to do is enact a ban on creating a person except by joining a sperm of a man and an egg of a woman and it’s fools mate.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 8:08 pm #

            It’s not the simply. What if a couple divorces: who gets access to the stored sperm and eggs? Does a women get to play god and then make her ex support her Frankenstein creation?

            And if a surrogate wants to keep her baby, does she have the right? Perhaps if it is her egg, but not if it was implanted?

          • John Howard October 13, 2015 at 12:18 am #

            No one should have access to any stored sperm or eggs. No one involved in surrogacy should get to keep the baby, the baby should be raised by wolves before we countenance slavery and eugenics.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 7:13 pm #

      You are correct: we need our own nation again. More than one culture in a nation is like having more than one mind in a single body – Madness.

      Support White Tribalism wherever you can. It’s the only thing that will keep us alive until we can take back at least part of America for our People. In other words, don’t try to be above it all – that’s an illusion that leaves you trapped in your disembodied mind. You’re in this and you have to choose a Side. And you already have your uniform unless you choose to be a foot soldier of the Illuminati who want to blend everyone together.

  48. Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 7:22 pm #

    We need more Seth Rogan stoner movies where he plays himself: a hairy, overweight Jewish stoner. The Establishment was willing to risk war with North Korea in order for Seth to play himself as an agent sent to assassinate Kim Jong Un. Luckily, North Korea showed restraint and merely launched a cyber attack against Sony.

    • No1kiwi October 12, 2015 at 8:51 pm #

      Janos,

      You are so gullible. Please provide us proof that North Korea launched a cyber attack against Sony. And not from Faux News.

  49. Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2015 at 8:05 pm #

    Can we all agree at least that Bowe Bergdahl should be executed for desertion?

    • No1kiwi October 12, 2015 at 8:51 pm #

      No.

      • No1kiwi October 12, 2015 at 9:47 pm #

        Bo Bergdahl was lied to by his government. He we told by the US military recruiters, with all their slick propaganda and advertising, that his service’s would be honorably utilized to defend his country against an invading enemy.

        Instead, he was sent off to fight in an illegal foreign war of aggression against an enemy who had not attack us. A war that was against the Geneva Convention.

        He was conned. He had to decide to kill an “enemy”, who was not attacking him or his country, OR obey his conscience. He chose the later.

        In a just world, maybe it is the Military Recruiters who should be tried and executed.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2015 at 12:40 am #

          You love every rebel and freak no matter how idiotic, despicable, or obnoxious. To you, all the Cops are Criminals and all the Criminals, Saints. An anti-nominalist verging on Satanist.

          • No1kiwi October 13, 2015 at 9:46 am #

            A predictable response from you Janos.
            Attack the poster not the poster’s argument.
            Is my take on Bo Bergdahl’s dilema correct or not?
            Let’s hear your cogent* argument.

            *clear, logical, and convincing.

  50. wpa--ccc October 12, 2015 at 9:31 pm #

    “I am a Manson historian.” –Kevvia Knack

    You might enjoy this 11-part podcast series:

    vidiocy.com/youmustrememberthispodcastblog/2015/5/26/charles-mansons-hollywood-part-1-what-we-talk-a…

  51. CthulhuWins October 12, 2015 at 11:26 pm #

    What’s frustrating is that everything we observe is easily explainable. Kunstler is on the mark here with his psychological observations, but what’s always missing in these observations is the explanatory framework. Unfortunately, this framework reveals the likely hopelessness of the situation for our species. I’ll outline the framework here, but I can’t justify it in detail because that would take too long. I’ll clarify and respond to objections if I get any responses, however.
    The members of our species occupy neurological continuums. Individuals have different levels of intelligence, contextual emotional expressions, drives, and so on. This list is extensive. The point is that evolution has created all these possibilities, and the key insight is to look beyond what we think we can accomplish as individuals or groups and look instead at what’s honestly going to emerge dynamically from the differentially manifest neurological characteristics present in our species.
    What’s going to happen, always, is that certain neurological profiles are going to end up “on top”. This isn’t a eugenics statement. These people aren’t the “best” by a long shot. Evolution drives these people into the top positions, but evolution can’t take into account the long term in any meaningful sense. As such, this neurological niche, which has managed to seize control of our resources as well as our technological and cultural development, is actually a self-destructive “local minimum” with respect to the entire development space we could be occupying as a species.
    Evolution has predictably created people that take full advantage of technology to amplify the most primitive, inefficient, and short-sighted behaviors. This should make perfect sense. The reason most of the population is so pathetic is because these are the states in which people are most easily “harvested” for the benefit of the currently propelled “top” neurological niche.
    You hear of class warfare, but this isn’t correct. The real war is a psychological one. Evolution has condemned our species to a self-destructive local minimum of existence, and all the dysfunctional psychology you see in the masses is part of the controlling machinations of the currently propelled neurological subsets in question.
    However, I don’t think it’s possible to stop these people. I think our species is a failure in the long term. The only species that could transcend the short-term impulses of evolution are those with greater circumventing and self-reflective intelligence than us. Some of us are smart enough to realize this, but we aren’t the ones hiding in hedge funds and mansions behind our supposed cleverness. Such people are cowards incarnate, and they have blindly condemned our species to the cosmic scrapheap.

    • Sean Coleman October 13, 2015 at 7:20 am #

      You are right about it needing a psychological explanation but that is about all I would agree with.

      I don’t know whether evolution is true or not and suspect that, if it is true, it isn’t in a random, meaningless way.

      I am also sceptical of the word ‘continuum’ (among many others, I might add). My computer keeps cutting out on this blog but I can find your post quickly by searching for the word. ‘Species’ is another scientific sounding word I like to avoid.

      The problem as I see it is psychological in the sense that this is the only explanation for the refusal of many to think in a reasoned way and to cling to the absurdities of political correctness.

      The psychological divide is between extraverts and introverts and it is the former (wonderful people as they are in most other respects) who are the problem here. By the way, there is no ‘continuum’ in this, you are either one or the other. I am pleased to say that the inability to think is not impossible to overcome. Indeed, I think JHK is an extravert himself, and it is writers and thinkers from the extravert camp who do most to show up all the silliness.

      Do you mind me asking if you are yourself an extravert? (If you are not sure, then you very likely are.) The final three lines of your post, for example, are good examples of what I call extravert cliche.

      • CthulhuWins October 13, 2015 at 2:14 pm #

        If you question evolution then I’m not sure what to say. That’s an impassable barrier. I’m not sure why you take issue with so many of my words when they’re conceptually easy to interpret. “Continuum” just means a gradient (as long as we’re not talking about the mathematical definition), and these are easy to observe in people. Intelligence, for example, is obvious a gradient across the population. And even though we can’t technically define intelligence, it’s clear that cognitive abilities are differentially manifest among individuals.

        I’m not sure of the technical definition of species. A loose definition is that a species can only breed with itself, but the natural world actually follows a continuum here. However, it’s clear we can’t reproduce with other primates, so this discreet idea works well enough in most cases. (We could and did reproduce with neanderthals, however.)

        Your psychological model is simplified to the point of lacking utility. I have contextually-based introverted and extroverted characteristics. Neurologically, we are vastly more complicated than this, but this complexity is bounded. It’s our organizational dynamics that emerge from this bounded, gradient complexity that evolution predicts, but I’m using evolution more broadly here than allelic selection via natural and artificial selection.

        Evolution is a general selection mechanism than can select for structures that emerge from the elements comprising them. In our case, evolutionary mechanisms have operated on our overall psychological dynamics to produce civilization with exploitative, hierarchical structures. The reason evolution can work on this level is because it operates on our psychologically-driven memories – or programming – which, like DNA, is passed from generation to generation.

        An “intelligent” species that fails to recognize this is doomed to follow this path blindly. I’ll note here that this exploitive dynamic increases global entropy – which can be easily seen now in the destruction of the climate and biosphere. All this means it’s hopeless for our species.

        • Sean Coleman October 14, 2015 at 8:31 am #

          CthulhuWins

          I think I understand what you are saying, it’s just that I don’t believe it.

          I dislike the word continuum because it is ugly, unnecessary and also because it is, or seems to be, scientific jargon. Species because I don’t see why Man should be viewed through the lens of scientific materialism as just another mammal. That’s just my preference. As for DNA passing psychological memories from generation to generation, I don’t think it does. Have you read Rupert Sheldrake (The Science Delusion) about this?

          I certainly don’t believe in a continuum between extravert and introvert. Each can adopt the characteristics of the other to a greater or lesser degree but from what I have seen they are separate and very different. First you have to learn how to identify them and then you can describe them. It’s not like modern ideas about sexuality where they are discovering new varieties all the time (in Ireland the radio reporter Jonathan Clynch has asked that he be called, from now on, Jonathan Rachel Clynch following a ‘process’ from which he emerged as ‘gender fluid’, meaning that he feels more masculine during one part of the day and more feminine at another – it is difficult to see where they can take it from there).

          You say my psychological explanation is too simplistic but I haven’t said what it is yet, beyond that it is rooted in extravert behaviour. The Australian psychologist Dorothy Rowe noticed that every couple is made up of an introvert and an extravert. I have noticed the same thing and have never, like her, come up against an exception to the rule.

          I took my theory out for a spin on the Irish Economy website, which is really for academic and professional economists although quite a few laymen hang out there. To my (admittedly limited) knowledge this was the only ‘respectable’ Irish forum (I don’t mean any disrepect to other blogs, but you know what I mean) where the issue of immigration was discussed in recent weeks (I saw no debate in the press, which was una voce in favour, and I think this was true for most of Europe).

          irisheconomy.ie/index.php/2015/09/16/new-york-times-a-migration-juggernaut-is-headed-for-europe/

          Unfortunately they didn’t publish my first comment so I had to post a summary of it later. Further down the thread they didn’t publish one part of my reply to an open borders economist. They later did publish it, but by then I had already reposted it in different words. I think they also published and then removed a post where I mocked another contributor who was engaged in what I call extravert rhetoric about ‘organised hypocrisy’ and ‘Official Ireland’. At least that is my memory of it and I am sure they have their own good reasons if this was actually the case.

          I hope to write a book about it and it will include chapters on various aspects of political correctness, Wikipedia, literature, paedophile rings and atheism. You could say then that this includes subjects where you are labelled a ‘denier’ if you don’t follow conventional wisdom. It will also probably include ‘climate denial’ (I hope this doesn’t upset too many people here) but not the original Holocaust, about the existence of which more or less everyone is more or less in agreement.

          It’s really about perception and why people cling to conventional wisdom.

    • No1kiwi October 13, 2015 at 10:00 am #

      Excellent post CthullhuWins. Well though out.
      I agree that “the real war is a psychological one”.
      But as Neon Vincent pointed out in his post yesterday, this psychological issue with gun violence is way more prevalent in the USA than in other industrialized societies…

      Quoting Neon Vincent…..”There are other countries with as high a proportion of guns to people as the U.S., such as Finland and Switzerland. Even Canada has a lot of guns in the hands of its civilian population, albeit mostly rifles and shotguns for hunting, as handguns are generally illegal. They don’t have the high number of firearms deaths the U.S. does, even accounting for their smaller populations……. Instead, we have to look for something in the culture”.

      There is no doubt that the US culture, (rampant militarism, the death penalty, a foreign policy based on war rather than diplomacy ,militarized police) contributes to this gun violence madness.

      • CthulhuWins October 13, 2015 at 10:34 am #

        No1kiwi,

        I think the violence and alienation of American citizens is to make them tolerant of America’s brutal imperialism. Americans can’t care about others if they’re empty shells filled with narcissistic and selfish anger. There’s some collateral damage with these mass shootings, but it’s clearly an acceptable cost to the powers that be. And advertising seems to profit nicely from them given their popularity in the news.

  52. BackRowHeckler October 13, 2015 at 12:21 am #

    Speaking of guns, last sat. I rode my MC out to the Riverton Agricultural Fair, the last fair of the season in these parts, really a nice little fair in the beautiful village of Riverton along the Farmingon River, where the Hitchcock chair was made 175 years ago, (the factory still exists) and the town doesn’t look much different from what it must’ve looked like then, the Episcopal Church and colonial brick houses. I wanted to watch the ‘Oxen Pull’, the wood chopping contest, the axe throwing event, and chew on one of those enormous turkey legs that can only be had at a country fair. I parked my bike in a field next to a van that had just pulled in too; a flock of girls piled out age about 5 to 15 (all blondies) with their mom, an attractive woman of about 40. They walked ahead of me, which is when i noticed the mom had a Ruger 9mm strapped to her waist in a holster right out in the open, open carry. At the gate there was a State Trooper and a local cop who must have noticed the gun; they said nothing and she walked in with her daughters unimpeded. i have to say that sight cheered me up, along with my fellow fairgoers, many who I knew, and mostly New England country people, descendants of the Yankees who settled these hills 250 years ago.

    brh

    • Sticks-of-TNT October 13, 2015 at 2:13 am #

      Now that’s my type of gal. Who knows, she might have been able to throw an axe too!

      • Sticks-of-TNT October 13, 2015 at 2:17 am #

        On top of that, she probably homeschools the girls.

      • Sticks-of-TNT October 13, 2015 at 2:26 am #

        and is a NE Patriots cheerleader!

    • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2015 at 3:38 am #

      You all will probably end up making your last stand in the same swamp King Phillip did. In Rhode Island I think. There’s an even bigger one in South Eastern Massachusetts near Taunton. Lot of UFO activity too.

      • Sticks-of-TNT October 13, 2015 at 1:17 pm #

        “Lot of UFO activity too.”

        Just curious. Are you also concerned about that type of alien? Do you consider them illegal? Would you prefer to be packing when you’re in that area? We could check with brh. He might have relatives where ever it is they’re from. Maybe he can find out if they’re attracted to white people.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2015 at 2:04 pm #

          Interesting question. You think the UFOs are transporting illegal Hispanics or Muslims? Or perhaps are even piloted by Brownies? I thought it was Bigfoots (or is that feet?). In any case, I have no doubt that BRH will attempt to shoot the UFOs down with his shotgun.

    • elysianfield October 13, 2015 at 11:42 am #

      BRH,
      I have been a life member of the NRA since 1969. I have carried a concealed weapon, legally, for 48 years. I have worked as a police officer, and owned a very large gun shop. I am a part of the “gun culture”. However, I hate to see open carries in public…it is just too much of an “in your face” moment for the average citizen, and does nothing for gun rights in America. I would much rather have these people carrying concealed. Remember, that the California ban on carrying loaded weapons in public occurred when a bunch of “scary negros” (Black Panthers) protested at the state capitol, Sacramento, in the early 60’s….

      • elysianfield October 13, 2015 at 12:00 pm #

        On another note, there were upwards of 100 people in Roseburg Oregon protesting the President’s visit who were in “open carry” mode… These people will all end up on the Secret Service watch list, and will remain there, forever. I am not moralizing, just stating the reality. As BRH is wont to say…”how do you like it NOW, Gentlemen?”

  53. jloughrey October 13, 2015 at 3:01 am #

    Absolutely brilliant summary of where American society in general, and young males in particular, find themselves today. We are in the perfect storm of a system that deliberately works against the grain of human nature, that defies the old logic that if you worked hard and played by the rules, that you could get ahead and thrive. Those days are gone. In the midst of this hopeless quagmire, the victims are blamed for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps when they have none.

    Note that the profile of these mass shooters is mostly white male, in their 20’s, are loners with mental health issues (though the parents always seem incredulous that something bad could happen when mental health issues are mixed with access to guns-what could go wrong??). How many of these young males are on psychotropic drugs, which are known to have severe side effects, including hallucinations and psychotic breaks? Who knows.

    When people feel completely alienated and psychically emasculated, they have nothing more to lose. Taking out as many innocent victims as possible along with themselves gives them the only legacy they feel they could ever achieve, albeit in the most sick and demented way. This is what a society in abject decline looks like.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2015 at 3:35 am #

      Most of these shooters? You mean the ones the media focuses on? Most shooters are Black and they kill other Blacks. But nobody cares about them (me neither), certainly Blacks don’t. The people have voted: White Lives matter more.

    • JourneyOfJoenes October 13, 2015 at 10:00 am #

      “Note that the profile of these mass shooters is mostly white male, in their 20’s,”

      Judging from the data roll-up on Mother Jones magazine, that’s not true. At least in the sense that you probably mean it, that white males are over-represented based on their share of the population.

      Here’s a piece of their spreadsheet on mass murder since 1982

      Asian 6
      Black 11
      Latino 4
      Native American 3
      Other 2
      Unknown 1
      White 44

      • malthuss October 13, 2015 at 1:51 pm #

        What is ‘mass murder’?

        • Q. Shtik October 13, 2015 at 2:15 pm #

          What is ‘mass murder’? – malthuss

          =============

          Well, picture you’re at a typical Sunday morning catholic church service and somebody comes in and kills a bunch of parishioners…that’s a “mass” murder.

          • malthuss October 13, 2015 at 7:29 pm #

            Is mass murder killing more than 2 people in the same place?

        • JourneyOfJoenes October 13, 2015 at 9:19 pm #

          4+ in a single event, so far as I can tell.

    • malthuss October 13, 2015 at 1:50 pm #

      Note that the profile of these mass shooters is mostly white male,

      Santa Barbara shooter and Oregon shooter were BOTH mixed race.
      And the ‘rogue cop’ in California was Black.

  54. Cold N. Holefield October 13, 2015 at 7:08 am #

    BackRowHeckler said: i have to say that sight cheered me up, along with my fellow fairgoers, many who I knew, and mostly New England country people, descendants of the Yankees who settled these hills 250 years ago.

    Hell yeah!! I’m all for it too so long as we change the law to self-defense when this same woman, or any just like her, blow their husband’s/boyfriend’s/any man’s head to smithereens if he’s abusive in any way. Right boys? If you like a strapped woman, you have to take The Whole Megillah. I welcome abusive men being stopped dead in their tracks en masse. What a better place this world would be. BRH, I didn’t realize you were a Progressive. Sweet. That’s some real Women’s Rights right there.

  55. Cold N. Holefield October 13, 2015 at 7:12 am #

    BackRowHeckler said: We have relatives there and this is what they tell me. They want to get out.

    Jesus, you have relatives in just about every country in the world. Who are you? John Perkins?

  56. FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2015 at 8:03 am #

    Putin expressed regret that the United States does not want to cooperate with Russia on Syria

    Russian President Vladimir Putin in an interview with TV channel “Russia 1” said he did not understand the reasons for the refusal of the USA to provide data on terrorist organization “Islamic State” in Syria to the Russian side.

    “We told them … Give us locations. We will work on them. Refused. They said that this, at this level, will not work. It is not clear why, if they really know better and want to fight terrorism”

    ria.ru/syria_mm/20151012/1300458620.html

  57. Petro October 13, 2015 at 9:43 am #

    I’m surprised neither JHK nor any of the commenters (unless I missed it) mention the biggest mass murderer of innocent civilians: the good ol’ USA and its military. Surely this helps set the overall tone and moral bar here. If the public has grown too used to and blasé about seeing these domestic shootings and the bloodbaths in our inner cities, perhaps it begins with the continual reports of the violence our government perpetrates in our name around the globe. In the past two decades our country has committed the mass murder of thousands of civilians while meddling in the affairs of other dysfunctional countries. Just last week, our military targeted a hospital and killed two dozen doctors, nurses, and patients. And our president, the hypocritical bloody-hand-wringer-in-chief, is perplexed by the public’s growing numbness to gun deaths at home.

    • bobinboiseid October 13, 2015 at 9:56 am #

      Totally agree! The United States federal government is definitely the worlds largest mass murderer, while also holding the distinction of being the world’s largest, most effective terrorist organization.

  58. Kevvia Knack October 13, 2015 at 9:47 am #

    Thank you for the Manson link, wca. I’ll take a look at it. I guess “M” is slightly off topic, but someone else mentioned him first.

  59. Cold N. Holefield October 13, 2015 at 10:02 am #

    Petro said: (unless I missed it)

    Yes, you missed it. But then, that’s what happens when you censor. You miss so much when you adhere to sources that only validate your limited and biased world view. Like Ian Welsh and Moon of Alabama that block commenters who provide disconfirming information counter to their highly nurtured narrative.

  60. fodase October 13, 2015 at 10:28 am #

    Brazil is going down, too.
    The president is a communist, the economy has collapsed, gangs are rampant, murder is commonplace, the police are brutal, environmental damage is monumental, rivers are polluted.
    In short, another Latin American sh=thole, switchgrass into autofuel not withstanding.
    We have relatives there and this is what they tell me. They want to get out.

    entirely true, i live here and let me tell you, south americans do NOT value human life and the environment.

    Western European/enlightened US culture will save this planet, the rest is not worth a hoot in hell

    fodase

    • Q. Shtik October 13, 2015 at 12:44 pm #

      Western European/enlightened US culture will save this planet, the rest is not worth a hoot in hell – fodase

      ==============

      WOW, talk about your 180 degree reversals. You are a far different person than when you bolted the US of A for tax reasons and went under the handle Welles a few years back.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2015 at 8:10 pm #

        A Conservative is often a Liberal who has gotten mugged, either by Black or by the Government. Sounds like old Fo got his ass kicked by enrichers.

        • elysianfield October 14, 2015 at 11:36 am #

          “A Conservative is often a Liberal who has gotten mugged, either by Black or by the Government”

          Absolutely. Nothing focuses the attention like being on the receiving end of a potential existential event…. Some conservatives became that way by observation, some by way of the emergency room.

  61. Buck Stud October 13, 2015 at 10:32 am #

    When certain aspects of American culture fervently eliminated/reduced art, aesthetics, and the humanities from the educational oeuvre in favor of science and math, the grand inference was the humanities were not as pragmatic and perhaps even a waste of limited funding. Indeed, from the lips of every president we never fail to hear the call for more funding and educational emphasis on math and science. And while this may be laudable and necessary, why was it ever presented as an either/or proposition, as if the humanities had nothing valuable to contribute to ‘our increasingly technologically based society’ as we are incessantly reminded at State of the Union like events? After all, studies suggest that subjects such as classicalmusic and classical drawing instruction strongly correlate to greater achievement and competency in the sciences.

    With the humanities being eliminated, the vacuum was and is inevitably being filled with what John Stuart Mill would term the ‘lower pleasures’. Because, as Mill asserts, natural human morality is that which fulfills the “Greatest Happiness Principle”. Put another way, that which increases pleasure and reduces pain is the most moral and dignified life. And suffering for its own sake is nothing more than the sanctimonious ascetic ‘mounting himself on a pillar’ to use Mill’s words. Only suffering in the service of creating more happiness for greater humanity is worthy of praise or emulation,according to Mills.

    Critics decry that the Utilitarianism of Mills inevitably leads to an orgy or animal urges being satiated in greater and greater degrees of degeneracy. Mills answers these critics by asserting it is they, and not the Utilitarians, who debase human nature in assuming that human beings are no different than animals and with no ability or proclivity to choose the higher pleasures over the lower. Alas, Mills also admits that the higher pleasures which produce the greatest state of morality in humans, are a necessity that must be cultivated and appreciated by greater society as a whole.

    And so here we are. The Greatest Happiness Principle hasn’t gone anywhere –it still remains. The gravitation towards pleasure and privation of pain is a basic human reality no matter how technologically advanced and bereft of the humanities society becomes. Thus, paradoxically, Mills critics are proving correct: The pleasure vacuum is increasingly filled with the lowest animal pleasures. One only needs to listen to rap or satanic heavy metal or watch a Jerry Springer episode or view the commercials of an NFL game to see what an utterly philistine, commercially degenerate society the U.S.A. represents.

    Somehow, somewhere, humans have a visceral, spiritual connection with the eternal and higher pleasures even in the midst of chaos and aesthetic mayhem. In the middle of another worthless and commercially prostitute NFL game, the aware fan might lift his eyes from the TV and notice for the smallest instant the utter magnificence and quietude of Fall in October. The source of his unhappiness has been revealed, but like a dog returning to a bowl of Alpo, he smells his way back into discontent because the stench of greater society is simply too strong an odor to resist and avoid for anytime longer than a vacation day from the cubicle.

    • Q. Shtik October 13, 2015 at 12:55 pm #

      Hey Buck, I got a couple tickets to the next Giants game…you in? ;o)

      • stelmosfire October 13, 2015 at 1:14 pm #

        Hey Q, Why is it the the NEW YORK GIANTS play home field in HEW JERSEY? Shouldn’t they be the JERSEY GIANTS? Just Sayin’. ;o)

        • Q. Shtik October 13, 2015 at 2:00 pm #

          Yeah, and that team in green should be the HEW Jersey Jets.

  62. nsa October 13, 2015 at 10:43 am #

    Listen to Fodase above…he lives in a turd world shithole and knows of what he speaks. Do you leftie commie supplicant rats really want to turn the USA into a turd world “paradise” like Brazil or a narco state like Mexico? Build a wall with razor wire and land mines across the southern border…..and establish 100% tariffs on all the crap imports. Defend your country, morons. Without good wages supporting high welfare state taxes, your disability checks and cushy guv jobs evaporate. Or are you suicidal?

  63. fodase October 13, 2015 at 12:05 pm #

    nsa, spot on, just like the insane folks who think that Cuba “has great medical care”.

    these people have NO REAL EXPERIENCE with what they are claiming. in Cuba, as here in Brazil, patients are commonly turned away because there are no doctors, the doctors do not want to treat them, patients must bring sheets, towels, syringes and medicines WITH THEM TO THE HOSPITAL (guess why), most of the machinery is always broken, doctors let people die rather than take smaller payment from the ‘universal medical care’ system…

    south americans/cubans/muslims only tear down social systems and the environment.

    witness what the horrible muslims are turning europe/germany into:

    freedomoutpost.com/2015/09/look-trash-destruction-left-behind-muslim-refugees/

    oh yes, they have a wonderful culture which we must respect.

    It’s a madhouse, a madhouse.

    the sooner these backward, undeserving ‘cultures’ are eradicated, the better off enlightened cultures and the Earth will be.

    can anyone imagine the japanese acting like this? or would thiings be clean and orderly?

    it sickens the spirit.

    there are a remnant few Mulsims (capital M out of respect) who recognize the monstrosity of their ways and abhor them. naturally, they would be killed if they spoke out.

    fodase

  64. Q. Shtik October 13, 2015 at 12:14 pm #

    good examples of what I call extravert cliche. – Sean Coleman

    ===============

    A first “vert” is one that is necessary or required. Any additional verts are there in case they may be needed and are called extra-verts.

  65. UntoDust October 13, 2015 at 1:00 pm #

    This is a fantastic, and important article. You’re onto something very core about American society, JHK. Something has indeed gone very wrong, and American men are at the eye of the storm.

    As you’ve written before, the dishonesty that now pervades every level of public discourse in this country is making it impossible to look seriously at genuine causes behind such increases in mass violence. Our refusal to look at ourselves has us desperately seeking some external cause to scapegoat in order to relieve the palpable anxiety growing in the nation. We seek to blame guns, the mentally ill, or media sensationalism. Very few seem to have the courage to look deeper, and I commend you for doing so. I think you are right on the mark and have articulated some difficult but important truths.

    • John Howard October 13, 2015 at 6:16 pm #

      we need to get Congress to prohibit transgender and same sex reproduction, so at least men are still defined by something. Only men have a right to impregnate women, and only women have a right to be pregnant.

  66. stelmosfire October 13, 2015 at 1:03 pm #

    You all can take your cell phones and stick them up your collective A****s, call me with a complaint. 413-Bite-@Me

  67. wpa--ccc October 13, 2015 at 1:14 pm #

    “Defend your country, morons.”

    Love your country, nsa!

    The USA is quite alive, diverse, and wonderful… not even close to “bang, bang, you’re dead” and, thanks to non-white contributions, we are surpassing Europe on many levels.

    Our HDI is better than any EU country that doesn’t rhyme with “Doorway” (and that’s such a different comparison it’s hardly worth mentioning), and is better than Canada’s as well.

    Our Median (not mean) Household Income is higher than every other country except for Luxemburg.

    Our long term cancer survival is better than pretty much any country on the planet.

    We are the world leader in medical, pharmaceutical, and technological research and development.

    Our average living space just demolishes any European country which should be obvious considering the population density (in fact, our POOR actually averages more living space than the average European. Not the average European poor citizen, the average European).

    We recognize rights like free speech and freedom of religion and have codified as firm rights compared to countries like France, Spain, or Germany which place limits on one or both.

    Our life expectancy is basically a wash with almost all other EU countries (we’re about a year lower than the UK and Germany, tied with Denmark), though we do lag behind others (Almost exclusively due to our love of cheeseburgers and firearms).

    If you consider this a good thing, our home ownership rate is higher than Portugal, France, Denmark, Austria, and pretty much tied with the UK.

    Our GNI per capita is higher than almost any EU country as well as Canada, and our GDP per capita is more than 20% higher than Canada’s.

    We have basically a 100% literacy rate.

    As long as more and more immigrants arrive (doesn’t matter how they get here), we will continue to have a fresh and revitalizing current of new ideas, new perspectives, new entrepreneurs, new infusions of energetic bright and intelligent human beings WHO ARE PASSIONATE FOR AMERICA, and who are improving America, making America better than majority-white European countries.

    Defend and love your multicultural, multiracial country, nsa!

    ..

  68. FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2015 at 2:12 pm #

    Plan B

    US plan using the forces of “moderate” Syrian opposition to liberate city of Raqqa in Northern Syria from Islamic State, which is an important hub for handling stolen oil.

    It is clear that they are not willing to do it out of hatred for ISIS, but to have the opportunity to continue to sell the stolen oil.

    Just like during the WWII – who will liberate the Berlin first…

    vz.ru/world/2015/10/12/771876.html

  69. FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2015 at 4:21 pm #

    The British have discovered the real Mordor – and it’s not Russia

    The evil empire of Saudi Arabia is the West’s real enemy

    Saudis are active at every level of the terror chain: planners to financiers, cadres to foot soldiers, ideologists to cheerleaders
    Iran is seriously mistrusted by Israel and America. North Korea protects its nuclear secrets and is ruled by an erratic, vicious man. Vladimir Putin’s territorial ambitions alarm democratic nations. The newest peril, Isis, the wild child of Islamists, has shocked the whole world. But top of this list should be Saudi Arabia – degenerate, malignant, pitiless, powerful and as dangerous as any of those listed above.

    independent.co.uk/voices/the-evil-empire-of-saudi-arabia-is-the-west-s-real-enemy-a6669531.html

    The Author is Yasmin Alibhai-Brown. Colorful personality. Ethnic Pakistani born in Uganda. Left-liberal feminist, co-founder of the movement “British Muslims for a secular democracy.”

    Curiously, Shiite.

    During her journalistic activities she had not only numerous literary prizes, but also the Order of the British Empire.

    What was it? Shiites declared war on Sunni Saudi using British newspaper? Return to original intention of 911 World Trade Center bombing? Interpret it as you wish, but three days after the publication of the aforementioned article Russians began to act as the Shiite Air Force and attacked the positions of Sunni Islamists. The loudest against the actions of the Russian Federation protested the Saudis – Russians bombed their allies that Americans preferred not to touch.

    Numerous “kings and princes” will be outlawed, and their fabulous holdings in US banks will be confiscated by coming to power Republicans. Trillions of dollars is a good price to pay for preserving the neutrality of the US army and the US Navy in the events in the Middle East. == me

    Spend the sheik’s money wisely, Americans. Time to re-industrialize.

  70. John Howard October 13, 2015 at 6:25 pm #

    So I responded to people’s skeptical comments, now tell me why people aren’t saying “hey you’re right, transgender reproduction is not a right and we should ban it.” Can’t you see how saying that men have a right to be mothers and girls have a right to father children is caustic?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2015 at 8:07 pm #

      Maybe people are confused. Are you talking about (for example), the famous pregnant man – a transvestite who called herself a man who got pregnant by her girlfriend – a man dressed up as a woman? If so, I tend to agree. An insane situation, but what can you do? It’s a free country where people are slaves to their disordered desires. The Law can’t touch them since we are in the post-Christian era.

      Matt Lauer kept marveling: I can’t believe it, a pregnant man. What a dipshit putz.

      • John Howard October 14, 2015 at 12:34 am #

        Not like the famous pregnant man, who was born female and still had her uterus, but took steroids to grow a beard and muscles.

        I’m talking about kids like Jazz Jennings, the transgender teen with a show on TLC, a young version of Caaitlyn Jenner, a male who appears and identifies as female. I’m saying we should ban people like that from trying to gestate a fetus or mate with other men, and ban females from impregnating other females. It doesn’t matter how it might be done, with stem cells or transplants, it isn’t a right.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2015 at 2:32 pm #

          So you’re saying that if Jazz impregnated a woman and married her, it would be wrong because Jazz can’t be a mother because she’s male and can’t be a father because she’s chosen to play a feminine role.

          In other words, you think children have the right to have a real biological and social father and a real biological and social mother. In other words, each parent must bew playing both the correct biological and social role.

          • John Howard October 14, 2015 at 3:06 pm #

            No I’m not talking about social roles. I’m saying Jazz, born male, only has a right to be a biological father, not a biological mother, and doesn’t have a right to be pregnant. Only females from birth have a right to be pregnant. I’m saying that the stupid idea that everyone has a right to procreate as either sex, with either sex, is the cause of all this alienation and aimlessness JHK is writing about, and the way to cure it is to pass the Natural Marriage and Reproduction Act.

      • John Howard October 14, 2015 at 9:14 am #

        And as to “what can you do?” We can pass the Natural Marriage and Reproduction Act that prohibits transgender and same sex reproduction, protects natural reproduction rights of all people, and voids all same sex marriages. It is essential that we pass the NMRA, and there is no downside.

    • Q. Shtik October 13, 2015 at 9:41 pm #

      Oh for Christ sake John, stop talking like an idiot. Everyone here but you apparently understands that men can’t have babies and girls/women can’t father children. If the idea of men porking other men and women munching carpet turns you off just friggin come out and say it.

      • John Howard October 14, 2015 at 12:27 am #

        I’m saying procreating with the same sex, as the other sex, is not a right and we should prohibit it. What is wrong with protecting natural reproduction rights and ruling out transgender reproduction? There is no benefit to leaving it legal, it is just super insulting and dehumanizing.

        • Q. Shtik October 14, 2015 at 1:12 am #

          There is no benefit to leaving it legal, – John H

          ===============

          While we’re at it let’s make it illegal to turn lead into gold.

          • stelmosfire October 14, 2015 at 8:08 am #

            Hey Q, the Chinese turn wolfram into gold all the time. All you need is a can of gloss gold paint!.

          • John Howard October 14, 2015 at 8:55 am #

            Why is there a problem with Gold’s self esteem and sense of purpose?

          • elysianfield October 14, 2015 at 11:44 am #

            “While we’re at it let’s make it illegal to turn lead into gold.”

            Q.
            Noooooo. The Government will do that when they start restricting ammunition sales.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2015 at 2:36 pm #

            Yeah it’s as crazy as putting a man on the moon. Q, some men say Why and others say Why not, some say impossible, and others say how, some say Can’t, others say Can Do. If I was Trump, I’d fire you.

            You should set out tomorrow and walk backwards across America. It would teach you a lot about yourself and America.

          • John Howard October 14, 2015 at 4:57 pm #

            Janos, what is your point? My point is, only males have a right to impregnate women, only females have a right to be pregnant, and denying this fact is harmful.

            Do you want to harm people by denying their right to procreate naturally, as their sex, with someone of the other sex? That’s what happens when we say that girls have the same right to impregnate woman as boys do, and boys have the same right to be a mother as the do to be a father. It’s depressing.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2015 at 2:38 am #

            I’m just trying to get exactly where you’re coming from. For example, why does Jazz incite your ire but not pregnant man? And remember, Jazz can’t become pregnant since Jazz is a biological he. Unless our medical tech improves drastically, Jazz will never be a biological mother. Your anger is justified but it seems a bit confused at times. And I don’t blame you: this is a confusing issue. In general I think we agree: children deserve actual biological parents who play the role nature intended for them. Thus Jazz should be a father but only if he can attain a masculine identity. Obviously being a father while playing the social role of a woman is grotesque.

  71. wpa--ccc October 13, 2015 at 6:55 pm #

    “Spend the sheik’s money wisely, Americans. Time to re-industrialize.” –Finca

    Time to voluntarily reduce population. Time to re-localize, time to find community, learn skills, etc. … but NOT time to “re-industrialize”

    Industrialization is, by definition, the large-scale introduction of manufacturing. CFN/JHK says we need to go local, not global… small-scale, not large scale… permaculture, not industrialized mono-culture… Learn medieval ways. Because without oil (after the collapse brought on by peak oil), and without a developed solar infrastructure, we are going to have to live much much more simply. We will exercise more and lose weight. Disease will decrease. Expect the quality of life to improve once we return to a human scale, without TV, without internet, without our faces glued to screens every day. Hell, there is a possibility the public library might be rediscovered and people might begin to read print books again during daylight hours, and develop storytelling skills during nighttime hours. It will be fun!

  72. wpa--ccc October 13, 2015 at 7:16 pm #

    Of course, the whole issue of energy will disappear once we develop nuclear fusion energy. Women are in the forefront.

    IF THIS WORKS, IT COULD POWER EVERYTHING
    cnn.com/videos/tech/2015/10/02/orig-zp-nuclear-fusion-power-pioneers.cnn/

    • bobinboiseid October 14, 2015 at 8:59 am #

      Fusion isn’t going to save us. We’ve been desperately trying to figure it out for a very long time and are nowhere near close to understanding how to harness the power of stars.

  73. hortonz October 13, 2015 at 7:53 pm #

    Greetings from Dumbfounded in Detroit. Where do I begin my ranting? Is it with the findings of Dutch investigators that the ill-fated Malaysian airliner was shot down in eastern Ukraine by obsolete Russian-made surface-to-air missiles used primarily by Ukrainian military forces on Ukrainian territory? Which means that Ukraine, not Russia, bears primary responsibility for the tragedy. Of course the Obama White House denies this and still holds Russia guilty for the entire mess. Or is it Obama’s failure to recognize that Putin was right to back the government of Syria in its’ war against rebels, whom the west calls “freedom fighters” but in reality are nothing more than radical jihadists intent on ridding the middle east of all western influence? When is the west going to realize that the “moderate” opposition forces they are backing are in fact the very people who want to destroy us? Probably never. And when is the United States going to rid itself of the fallacy that it is the new Saudi Arabia? Shale oil production continues to fall precipitously and new investment can’t keep up with depletion. Which means higher oil prices in the future. No wonder OPEC oil ministers grinning from ear to ear. Thank God for JHK and this forum for giving the thinking class a chance to express themselves.

  74. Q. Shtik October 13, 2015 at 9:27 pm #

    Expect the quality of life to improve once we return to a human scale, without TV, without internet – wpa

    ===============

    Hahahah, good luck wit dat.

    • John Howard October 14, 2015 at 3:09 pm #

      Expect quality of life to improve once we preserve marriage and natural reproduction rights.

  75. Q. Shtik October 13, 2015 at 10:44 pm #

    THE DEM DEBATE

    Despite the fact that the debate isn’t over the candidates finished in the following order:

    1. Sanders
    2. Hillary
    3. Webb
    4. O’Malley
    5. Chaffee

    Despite his first name (Lincoln) Chaffee hasn’t got a prayer. He’s an also ran and he has an odd looking mouth.

    Barely even heard of Webb and O’Malley before tonight and will hear less of them as time goes on.

    It was all Bernie and Hillary and Bernie was the more dynamic personality that made himself the focus of the whole show.

    Sorry, Hill, I guess it’s just not your turn.

  76. wpa--ccc October 13, 2015 at 11:25 pm #

    I only saw three serious Democratic candidates, finishing in this order:

    1. Sanders
    2. Hillary
    3. O’Malley

    Webb came across as a very thoughtful, intelligent Republican who should be in the Republican debates with Trump.

    • Q. Shtik October 13, 2015 at 11:32 pm #

      Webb came across as a very thoughtful, intelligent Republican who should be in the Republican debates with Trump. – wpa

      ==================

      You cribbed this line from one of the post-debate talking heads without attribution.

      • Frankiti October 14, 2015 at 8:06 am #

        Wpa-cc has about 2 brain cells rattling in her skull… don’t expect too much

  77. Pucker October 13, 2015 at 11:52 pm #

    An Indian entrepreneur may have solved the water and the energy problems. Watch the film “Billions in Change” at https://solari.com It’s very inspiring.

  78. FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2015 at 5:32 am #

    Just a reminder what Syrian “moderate” opposition looks like:

    youtube.com/watch?v=rpz8xKp9gS0&t=47

    Is that whom Bastinda wants to protect with no-fly zone?

    • hortonz October 14, 2015 at 1:50 pm #

      What did you expect from a president who tacitly endorses a group that advocates terrorist tactics like #BlackLivesMatter or believes that the “diversity” police perform a valuable pubic service?

  79. FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2015 at 5:39 am #

    The cavalry is on its way

    Iran boosts ground forces in Syria

    Monday night, Iran began pouring more ground troops into Syria, HIzballah and Iranian sources report, as part of its share in the military alliance with Syria and Russia.

    debka.com/newsupdatepopup/13104/Iran-boosts-ground-forces-in-Syria

    I hope that clarifies a bit urgency of signing the Iranian deal.

  80. FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2015 at 6:15 am #

    Hillary Clinton: We have to stand up to ‘bully’ Putin

    edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/10/13/hillary-clinton-democratic-debate-putin-bully-13.cnn/vide…

    Of course she totally left out the fact that she had royally fucked things up for America in her position of Secretary of State by totally missing the huge secret rearmament of the Russian armed forces.

    I guess she was too busy arming her and McCain’s cannibal Islamist friends in Syria and Iraq.

  81. BackRowHeckler October 14, 2015 at 7:34 am #

    Kiwi1 sounds a lot like Asoka/WPA, many similar words and phrases.

    I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong on that.

    brh

  82. Frankiti October 14, 2015 at 8:04 am #

    Bernie proved why he’s unelectable; he’s a f*****g wimp that not only got rolled over by Clinton Inc., he jumped on board the bus after getting run over. What a pretender.

  83. FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2015 at 8:20 am #

    It’s amazing, but the Democratic Party debate was won by ….Donald Trump!!!

    His comments @onrealDonaldTrump #DemDebate gathered a larger audience than the debates itself.

    • bobinboiseid October 14, 2015 at 9:06 am #

      Donald Trump’s campaign plan: survey Democrats and Republicans to find out hot button issues and promise everything that all of the parties lemmings want, while promising to reduce taxes at the same time.

      Donald Trump is using Ronald Rayguns playbook, but on steroids.

  84. BackRowHeckler October 14, 2015 at 8:26 am #

    Russia’s efforts in Syria already out of the news, except in a few obscure places.

    That didn’t take long.

    Hey, what’s up in Israel, looks like trouble brewing again? An Israeli mother and father dragged from their car and stabbed to death in front of their children. Try to find something about it in the MSM. Oh its there, but it takes some searching to find it.

    brh

    • FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2015 at 9:32 am #

      I think, brh, that everybody are still in denial – Russian Syrian news a MIA in the conservative and libertarians blogs – look at Bill Still and others – not a word.

      Takes some time to adjust to a new reality, I guess…

    • malthuss October 14, 2015 at 11:43 am #

      And when 1000+ Arabs are killed by the Israelis, is that in the news?

      The rumor is Israels ‘Holocaust Museum’ is visited by tourists.
      Israelis go to the museum that honors their war criminals.

      • hortonz October 14, 2015 at 1:41 pm #

        Don’t tell me that you’ve fallen for the anti-Zionist propaganda put out by the Arab governments or do you not see the similarities between the Nazis anti-Jewish propaganda in the 1930’s and the left’s anti-Israel propaganda.

      • hortonz October 14, 2015 at 1:41 pm #

        Don’t tell me that you’ve fallen for the anti-Zionist propaganda put out by the Arab governments or do you not see the similarities between the Nazis anti-Jewish propaganda in the 1930’s and the left’s anti-Israel propaganda.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2015 at 2:39 pm #

          So in other words, if Hitler said 2+2=4, then it’s wrong. And everyone else who says it got it from him and therefore is wrong too.

          The Jews are from the moral paragons they promote themselves as. You’re either a Jew or one of their many dupes.

  85. fodase October 14, 2015 at 9:25 am #

    everywhere they go, they love to celebrate their differences. you have to be legally insane to be a multiculturalist diversity idiot:

    thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/video-masked-migrants-chanting-allahu-akbar-rally-in-germany-with-stick…

    good men will only take this for so long.

    janos, i lived in the town of W……… just up the road from you, one of the 3 “W” towns just a stone’s throw from Coolidge Square etc.

    it really is ghastly astonishing how far insane lefties will go to destroy themselves.

    which is what they’re doing, because as is often pointed out, they’ll be the first to be thrown off buildings, burned alive and decapitated once the human cockroaches (yes, you can quote me on that) get up a bit of steam.

    fodase

    • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2015 at 3:03 pm #

      As falls Wichita falls Wichita falls. The Fenris Wolf is at the door, blocking out the Sun, his breath a fetid wind. The Fimbul Winter is upon us. Global Warming? Nothing but the heat of the coming battle. The Ice will melt from the hot blood spilt upon it. Foe and Foeman will be dropped into the icy waters to be swallowed by sea monsters.

      In the Ragnarok, I will be Freyr, fighting with the antler of a deer and one of the last to fall. And it will be televised, but there will be none left to watch it except Q. He is a god but he doesn’t know it. He will just “find” himself becoming the accountant of the new Aeon, counting supplies of acorns, gallons of mead, etc. Instead of marveling over his new circumstance, he will just accept it as glibly as he now accepts pregnant men. Each week he will line up with dwarves and giants to get his wage. Just business as usual.

      • Q. Shtik October 14, 2015 at 3:49 pm #

        Heavy into those comic books again are we?

        BTW, I spent 4 months at Sheppard AFB, Wichita Falls, TX, Jan – Apr 1963… Accounting and Finance Officer School.

  86. FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2015 at 10:06 am #

    “look at Bill Still and others – not a word” == me

    Speaking of Bill Still – he finally came up with the Russian theme, but only to dig up obscure former Russian chess champion – Garry Kasparov who is frustrated with Putin because he beat him to Presidential election in Russia in 2008 (Actually, Kasparov didn’t have a prayer).

    youtube.com/watch?v=uXlHSWeBL1k

    As Bill Maher said: “Garry shut the fuck up. Wake me up when Putin takes Poland”

    youtube.com/watch?v=80EnYg6RBmk

    Americans are so badly bogged down in their own propaganda, which lasted for almost 70 years, so now 90 percent of the effort they spend on it to come up with “elegant” ways out from their own lies from 30 years ago.

  87. FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2015 at 11:02 am #

    After the Caspian missile salvo it became clear: the European missile defense system is a waste of billions of dollars

    Americans outsmarted themselves by formulating the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF) of 1987 to allow for short and medium-range sea-launched missiles, keeping in mind their own battle-ship launched “Tomahawks” that have more than a thousand kilometers of distance.

    Now, after shelling the positions of terrorists in Syria from Russia’s tiny ships of the Caspian Sea, NATO has a big problem. When the missile from such distance hit the target with an accuracy of up to three meters, it turns out that the whole European missile defense system is quite useless – billions of dollars wasted. It can’t knock down the cruise missiles at such low altitude. Accordingly, it would not be able to deflect a pre-emptive disarming strike by Russia not against itself, nor against the bases of NATO in Europe. Thus, the security of Europe as a whole, to put it mildly, is questionable, and strictly speaking – if Russia wants to, the European missile defense system will be just one big target and does not help anyone.

    Furthermore. As some experts say, in the shelling from the Caspian Sea participated not only ships, but also the Tu-160 strategic bombers, which have a X-555 missiles with a range of 2.5 thousand kilometers, and the new X-101 with a range of 5000.

    And that led NATO to panic. New Russian cruise missiles are “very great challenge” for the defense of the United States, because they allow the Russian long-range aircraft to hit North American targets without ever leaving the airspace of Russia, said on Wednesday the head of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) Admiral William Gortney. “It forces us to catch an arrow instead of trying to shoot an archer” – concluded Gortney.

    Nobody paid any attention to the words of Vladimir Putin that the response to European missile defense system would be asymmetrical, and inexpensive. After the demonstration of the Caspian naval power of Russia, even to illiterate and politically unshod townsfolk became apparent – the Americans better had accepted the Russian proposal.

    The world did change. Much has changed. And the Americans in this new world feel very uncomfortable. To the point that the head of the IMF Christine Lagarde has threatened Washington about the need to proceed with the reform of the IMF, as was agreed with Obama in 2010, or IMF will overcome the veto of the US Congress in a different way.

    In this regard, the United States attempt to talk with China from a position of strength in the South China Sea by sending Air-Carrier strike group looks as a very bad idea.

    regnum.ru/news/polit/1988613.html

    • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2015 at 8:06 pm #

      Can Israel stop Russian nuclear missiles with its shield? If so, they’ll have to invade as in the Bible.

      • malthuss October 15, 2015 at 11:09 am #

        Are Hal Lindsays books accurate with regards to prophecies?

        • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2015 at 3:12 pm #

          That’s a big subject, far beyond my expertise. All I can say is that he thinks Jews are the Chosen People so how good can his judgment be? The Church Fathers are almost unanimous: the Anti-Christ will be a Jew. How else could he sit in the rebuilt Temple and be worshiped?

  88. volodya October 14, 2015 at 12:43 pm #

    Didn’t it say in Ecclesiastes that there’s nothing new under the sun? Ok, iPhones are new, after all, the only hand-held device for the author of Ecclesiastes was a quill.

    But look at more recent literature. As they say, the road to hell is through unintended consequences. More than 150 years ago Trollope wrote a fictional account (The Warden) of a crusading do-gooder that did more harm than good, and of a fictional financier in The Way We Live Now that bears more than a passing resemblance to various modern day vampire squid.

    The point is we keep seeing performances with variation in dialogue and setting, but the same basic story.

    So what is JHK talking about now? Essentially this plot-line involves a predatory American elite that robs everything in sight, with no limit to their rapacity, aided by self-interested bureaucratic and academic encrustations. And where have we seen this before?

    There’s always reasons. This time we have societal “progress”. You’re in favor of “progress” aren’t you? Sure you are. So prevailing politically correct ideology points the finger at men and particularly young men, their wants and aspirations derided as outdated and unacceptable.

    And this is what progress entails. It means new ways of thinking and doing things, and this time, young men are expected to over-ride three million years of evolutionary wiring. Unable to do so, they’re sidelined to a life of degradation and porn, that is, if they can afford internet charges.

    But this isn’t the main game. This is just a distraction. Making self-doubt the only acceptable mode of existence for young men buys time. Because the economic elite are very, very busy and the more young men are paralyzed by self-loathing the better. The oligarchs ought to be grateful to useful-idiot-social-activists clearing the way.

    The oligarch-elite have their own self justification, a generally accepted ideology of profit maximization and market efficiency that dictates that every other consideration and consequence be damned. And they own and control academic institutions and media outlets to do the shilling.

    In past periods it was Divine Right. Pick your place, pick your time and there will be a justification, but the result is always the same, more for the elite, less for everyone else.

    This is the way it has to be and if you’re not on board with this, well, there’s intelligence agencies galore … there always have been secret police and snitches.

    Can anyone see some un-intended consequences looming? Because those are part of the recurring plot-line too.

  89. dweebus October 14, 2015 at 1:29 pm #

    JHK-

    You articulated this much better than I could. How do you stop mass shootings when there is a nasty subculture that glorifies them onoine, spread by misanthropes sprouting like mushrooms in their mothers’ basements, subsisting off hotpockets. I don’t think you can. This culture is a mother of a mess.

    As to guns, I don’t have a big problem with them. They are a fact of American life. I would prefer to see more open carry, rather than concealed carry, however.

    “You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.” Yamamoto (apocryphal)

  90. Q. Shtik October 14, 2015 at 3:02 pm #

    the road to hell is:

    …through unintended consequences. – volodya

    …paved with good intentions. – Q.

  91. Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2015 at 3:10 pm #

    dailystormer.com/israeli-minister-latest-in-long-line-of-prominent-jews-asserting-the-inferiority-of…

    Oh it can’t be true because Hitler also said it.

  92. capt spaulding October 14, 2015 at 3:22 pm #

    I’ve been reading the news, and seeing the results of last night’s debate. I see that Hilary is described as “polished”. Isn’t that another word for phony? She strikes me as no different than the other cantidates, republican or democrat, whose primary concern is to tell you what they think you want to hear, rather than what they truly believe? It’s the whole reason that the political process has become a sham. Both sides are bullshitting their core audience in order to collect their votes. It’s the main reason that I like both Trump and Sanders. I suspect that their surge in popularity is due to the fact that they say what they believe, as opposed to Hilary & her ilk, from both sides of the political spectrum, preaching to the choir. All that’s necessary is to stand back, look at the oligarchy that is controlling both sides of the debate, and realize that it’s just soma being fed to the masses. It should be clear by now, that the Plutocrats control most of what happens in Wash. DC, and anything else is just so much foam in the water. Voting for ANY of the mainstream cantidates, marks you as a gullible fool who believes whatever you hear, as long as it agrees with your positions. Even though they will abandon most of their positions once they are elected. In the meantime, it’s business as usual in DC. What it boils down to is; Tell the sheeple whatever they want to hear, as long as it gets me elected. The sad fact is, “No matter how cynical I get, it’s never enough”. If ANYBODY from

    • capt spaulding October 14, 2015 at 3:24 pm #

      sorry, I cut myself off in mid-rant.

  93. wpa_ccc October 14, 2015 at 3:42 pm #

    “marks you as a gullible fool who believes whatever you hear” –capt. Spaulding

    Is that how you got captain bars? You believed in this country’s politicians, who you now disparage, when they wanted to go to war?

    Vote for Bernie. He is not on any corporate payroll and will not get us into more wars.

    • Frankiti October 14, 2015 at 4:54 pm #

      On the contrary, he will, get this country involved in more wars precisely because he’s such a f*****g mush. Look at him! He’s begging to be bullied. He couldn’t even muster the courage to take on a wounded Clinton. Instead, he came to her aid like a lapdog to its master. The fact is that the US is an inveterate bully nation, and a lot of people want to take a swing at the bully… put Sanders in the schoolyard and it’s all over.

    • capt spaulding October 15, 2015 at 10:39 am #

      Well WPA, one of the ways I got my Captain’s bars was by reading things completely before commenting on them. You must have missed the part where I said that I liked both Sanders AND Trump. But that’s ok, you haven’t made much sense on here anyway. Reading your posts and responding to them, is a waste of time, so it’s something I won’t be doing anymore.

  94. FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2015 at 4:09 pm #

    Alexander Brodsky: Debates, Debates, Debates

    This election is not about who is going to be the President of the United States, it is about whether there is going to be a President of the United States and with it the United States and a large part of humanity since the coming to power of Hillary Clinton means the end to the first, the second and the third.

    Moreover there is no doubt that a large part of the American Army is already carrying out Hillary’s orders, and not Barack Obama’s, as the airdrop of weapons to ISIS in Syria at a time when the United States and Russia are in talks about preventing accidental combat clashes, is impossible to call anything else but a provocation.

    Therefore, the main result of this debate is undoubtedly the fact that all Democratic candidates condemned Hillary Clinton for excessive aggressiveness (“too quick to use military force”), in particular her demand to introduce a “no-fly zone” in Syria. But none of them dared to say that the “no-fly zone” means the air battles between the Russian and American pilots, commonly referred to as a war.

    All of them have vaguely hinted at some obscure escalation if the proposal of Hillary Clinton to be accepted, which made her wag her red tail and declare that she offers a “no-fly zone” only to engage Russia in a diplomatic solution to the Syrian issue.

    Meanwhile, for everybody except the fanatical fans of Hillary Clinton is crystal clear that the attempt to implement a “no-fly zone” over Syria where absolutely legally fly Russian Jets means the severance of diplomatic relations with Russia and her partners in the negotiations will first be General Shamanov (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Shamanov) and then Judge of the appropriate Terrible Tribunal.

    edition.cnn.com/2015/10/12/politics/syria-rebel-groups-ammunition-50-tons/

  95. John Howard October 14, 2015 at 5:13 pm #

    I’m going to try again to make an actual suggestion to fix this:

    “What concerns me more than the gun issue per se is the extraordinary violence-saturated, pornified culture of young men driven crazy by failure, loneliness, grievance, and anger. More and more, there are no parameters for the normal expression of masculine behavior in America — for instance, taking pride in doing something well, or becoming a good candidate for marriage. The lower classes have almost no vocational domain for the normal enactments of manhood, and one of the few left is the army, where they are overtly trained to be killers.”

    The failure, loneliness, grievance and anger come from being told they have a right to be female, and have no more right to be fathers than females do. Come on, can’t you see that is corrosive? We need to affirm that men, and only men, have a right to be fathers, and women,and only women, have a right to be pregnant. Until we do, it’ll be more misery.

    • wpa_ccc October 14, 2015 at 7:28 pm #

      Who are you to tell anyone what their gender should be? A troll?

      Let men choose to be women if they want to, and let women choose to be men if they want to, since we are in a gender-fluid time. Be happy for them when they take on new bodies/identities.

      God obviously made mistakes and we obviously know how to one-up God and fix God’s fucked up handiwork.

      It is all pretty simple really and none of what others choose to do about their gender is your business.

      Nor is it relevant to human survival. The people who are the real threats are heterosexual couples who have more than one child.

      • John Howard October 14, 2015 at 7:54 pm #

        Telling boys that they have an equal right to be girls and marry men as they do to be fathers and marry women is fucking up the whole country. It is super demoralizing and costly, and benefits no one.

        Are you just embarrassed to be opposed to gay marriage? That tide is changing fast, soon it will be OK to change your stance back to reality.

    • elysianfield October 14, 2015 at 7:33 pm #

      John,
      Sorry, but it is just not an issue worth commenting upon. The biological imperative defines the gender roles, and will not be changed through argument, law, tears, or rage. It is a non-issue, and this is why no serious comments have developed on this site.

      You are correct, however, in your statement that this dichotomy is corrosive. It is but a symptom of a corrupt and decadent society…as JHK has eloquently defined…repeatedly.

      • John Howard October 14, 2015 at 7:58 pm #

        The cure is to end gay marriage and transgender foolishness. The Natural Marriage and Reprodcution Act is necessary to restore decency and direction to America. Continuing to insult people with gay marriage and Monty Python foolishness about a right to be either sex is going to make things worse and worse.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2015 at 8:12 pm #

        I’d have to say John is right: the Elite are massively behind the Transgender Movement and have been preparing for this onslaught for decades. Why? Apparently a multitude of reasons: weaken men tremendously, tear down what’s left of traditional society, help lower the birth rate even more, etc. Also, (and this gets really out there), it’s part of the Occult beliefs that many of them subscribe too – this incarnates Adam Kadmon, the original person who is both male and female, onto the Earth – but in a blasphemous way as Baphomet.

        • John Howard October 15, 2015 at 2:32 pm #

          Yeah, I’m right! Thanks Janos. We all need to recognize gay marriage was a mistake, transgenderism is a mistake.

        • elysianfield October 15, 2015 at 2:32 pm #

          Janos,
          Western culture could not, and would not countenance what Yockey describes as “…insane, freakish individualism”… We’ve always had freaks amongst us, but only since the mid 60’s have they been “celebrated”…and they have been celebrated, “not necessarily to our advantage”…another sign of the Apocalypse….

  96. nsa October 14, 2015 at 9:38 pm #

    Some silly confused fag cuts his dick off and claims to be a chick….and the rest of us are supposed to applaud????

    • John Howard October 15, 2015 at 5:54 pm #

      The rest of us should not let people think that men have a right to have babies as women, with men. It’s not true, but it’s what everyone is being taught right now. We have to get Congress to rule it out in order to stop schools from harming children.

  97. FincaInTheMountains October 15, 2015 at 4:20 am #

    The Brewing of Armageddon

    The UK Mirror presents in one nice graphics the site of a gathering of armies for a battle during the end times.

    SYRIA POWDER KEG: Where the World’s Military Might Collides

    i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6616746.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/GRAPHIC-Syria-crisis-explainer-map.jpg

    • FincaInTheMountains October 15, 2015 at 4:26 am #

      De facto, in the Middle East, we have perhaps the biggest war in the last 10 years for sure.

  98. FincaInTheMountains October 15, 2015 at 4:35 am #

    MOSCOW, October 14 – RIA Novosti. The US said that they could not accept a delegation led by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, who planned to discuss the coordination of the fight against terrorism, said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

    ria.ru/world/20151014/1301981260.html

    Americans still do not understand how to deal with Russia in the new reality. And they are, in fact, can be understood. Vladimir Putin publicly offered these two meetings – in Moscow and Washington, once again put our partners in an awkward position. They could not agree.

  99. FincaInTheMountains October 15, 2015 at 5:32 am #

    World’s military come to the aid of commodity analysts

    US Military aircraft sent Syrian opposition containers with small arms and hand grenades. This was announced by Pentagon spokesman Patrick Ryder.

    Earlier, US media reported that US aircraft dropped at night by parachute 50 tons of ammunition in the province of Hasakah.

    It is interesting to watch the price of oil, depending on who dropped what on whose head in Syria.

    Russians dropped the bombs – the price of oil rose, the US dropped aid – the price has fallen … This greatly facilitates the work of commodity analysts.

  100. FincaInTheMountains October 15, 2015 at 6:06 am #

    Refugees in Europe feel dull, dreary and sad

    Refugees are disappointed in Europe: the food is crappy, cold, prostitutes are too expensive, they get not enough pocket money, and the Internet is slow…

    Refugees are beginning to see clearly that under totalitarian bloody regimes their lives were much happier. For example, in Finland, the refugees complain about the climate, the food is absolutely tasteless, of boredom, for entertainment they have only the Internet.

    Just arrived in Finland, refugees already began to dream about moving to Sweden, where they expect a “more refined products and high social benefits.” Germany surprised how the refugees have changed; they spend money on a taxi, driving hundreds of kilometers. In one of the assistance centers in Bavaria migrants began to protest, refusing to take food from the hands of females, because religion forbids.

    In Lubeck school students were obliged to hold a “Week of refugees”: German children were to make beds for Refugees (adults!), sort their clothes, help in the kitchen. However, their evil parents made a scandal and a “Week of refugees” was canceled.

    In the naughty Holland refugees are unhappy with slow Internet, boredom, modest breakfast and lunch. They complain about lack of pocket-money.

    In Debrecen (Hungary) local prostitutes’ devilishly used refugees, forcing them to pay 120 Euros for a half-hour “session” instead of customary 80 Euros as the locals pay. In addition, the half-hour was a blatant hack.

    It is undoubtedly a manifestation of racism, xenophobia, intolerance and neo-Nazism on the part of the Hungarian prostitutes.

    thepolishreview.co.uk/index.php/home/kategoria-2/1256-uchodzcy-rozczarowani-europa-nudno-zimno-prost…

    • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2015 at 3:08 pm #

      How do Muslims feel about vaccines? It’s appalling that children have to change the linens of these diseased criminals.

      In other news, Jews play the hypocrite as usual. White lives are expendable but theirs are sacred. They are wild about the destruction of Europe of course – what utter fools.

      dailystormer.com/amsterdam-jews-say-no-syrians-in-their-neighborhood/

  101. Cold N. Holefield October 15, 2015 at 6:50 am #

    wpa said: Who are you to tell anyone what their gender should be?

    Who are you to tell anyone what their gender can be?

    There is definitely an agenda at play being pushed by the Global Elite, at least the Western Division of the Global Elite. One of the reasons this agenda is so popular and powerful is because various institutions are inundated with LGBTs to include media news and entertainment and the political establishment in and around the DC Beltway and the halls of power in Western Europe. But they’re not content to just leave it there. No, they must implement their pansexual agenda to the kiddies through schooling. And I’m sorry, but that is a disgusting abuse of power — to take advantage of young, vulnerable not yet fully formed minds and spirits and entrain these manifesting beings to believe it’s okay to hump a rock or tree or a sheep or a goat or a traffic light or a copying machine or a water cooler or a dishwasher because pansexualism frees you up to pursue your sexual freedom once and for all. There are no longer any restraining boundaries — whatever you can imagine can be, will be.

    Remember this famous scene from this excellent Woody Allen movie?

    Willy Wonka Makes Love To A Sheep

    When I first saw this movie and especially this scene, I laughed so hard for so long I thought I was going to die. I couldn’t catch my breath and buckets of tears were streaming down my face. Never in my life did I ever anticipate that this obvious satire would become reality. But it has and now this scene is ruined for me. I’m not sure what to laugh at anymore and quite frankly, in this brave new world, I don’t have a clue what comes next. I mean, what can top pansexualism?

    • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2015 at 7:05 am #

      Well said, CNH.

      In the future, maybe even now, a paragraph like that first one might get you in trouble.

      brh

      • Cold N. Holefield October 15, 2015 at 8:03 am #

        Thanks. I forgot to add apple pie to that list.

        “Class, see that apple pie over there? If you want to marry it, or even if you just want to fuck it, now you can without feeling embarrassed or guilty.”

        • stelmosfire October 15, 2015 at 10:08 am #

          FUCK Apple Pie, I’ll take the pumpkin instead!

    • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2015 at 3:04 pm #

      Yes things are only funny when there is tension between appearance and reality. There has to be some truth, like Whites not being able to jump or Blacks being dumb, but it has to be hidden or restrained by circumstance or social stricture or custom. Humping a sheep is only funny because it’s not done even though obviously some would if they could. Once they CAN, it’s no longer funny, just sick.

  102. Cold N. Holefield October 15, 2015 at 6:57 am #

    Finca said: Refugees are disappointed in Europe: the food is crappy, cold, prostitutes are too expensive, they get not enough pocket money, and the Internet is slow…

    Perhaps if they embraced the pansexual revolution they wouldn’t be so miserable. Not to worry, if they stay, and most will and there are many more to come, if they don’t embrace pansexualism, there children surely will.

    The Aryan Devil Blondie sums it nicely:

    One Way Or Another

  103. BackRowHeckler October 15, 2015 at 6:58 am #

    “Vote for Bernie. He’s not on the corporate payroll …” — WPA

    Yeah, its 1938, the Nazi-Soviet pact has just been agreed upon, we the Proletariat are storming the ramparts, and paying homage to Comrade Stalin!

    Let’s see now. I watched some of that debate. Free college tuition! Free tuition for illegals! Forgive student loan debt! Open up the borders! Eliminate fossil fuels? Free medical care for all! Crush the banks! Smash Wall Street! Get rid of all firearms! With a little pixie dust and waving a magic wand it all gets done.

    Because suddenly its not 1938 but 1958, and Pax Americana, a robust prosperous strong United States standing atop the world, 90% white, with a budget not $18 trillion in debt but with one that is balanced, anything is possible, sky’s the limit! How? Why, as Mrs. Clinton stated, “taxing the rich”. That’s how.

    How do you feel about our future, Gentlemen? Confident? Or a little queasy?

    brh

  104. BackRowHeckler October 15, 2015 at 7:45 am #

    To pick up an earlier thread …

    ElysianField (I like your chosen handle, ElysianField being the place where modern baseball was invented, in Hoboken across the East River from Manhattan in the summer of 1839, by a bunch of young New Yorkers)

    That’s a pretty thoughtful response you gave on the subject of ‘open carry’. You certainly know what you’re talking about and have the experience to back it up. Now in the past few days I’ve heard other people mention they’ve seen women, no men tho, carrying a pistol on their hip, right out where it could be seen. I’ve only witnessed it that one time at that Fair, and was surprised the State Trooper at the main gate let it pass unchallenged. There’s the chance he didn’t see it. Also, others must have seen it, and nobody seemed alarmed. But this was pretty far out in a rural area, about as rural as it gets in CT. Turns out there is no specific law against it on the books as long as you have a permit, but that might change if it becomes a commonplace practice.

    brh

    • Cold N. Holefield October 15, 2015 at 8:05 am #

      There’s the chance he didn’t see it.

      If she was as good looking as you say she was, perhaps he had his eyes on her sweet ass and missed the gun entirely. It happens.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2015 at 2:50 pm #

      What happened with the open carry protests scheduled against a dozen or so Mosques? Great idea but I never heard if they came off. Muslims have to realize that it’s not going to go down here like it is in Europe.

  105. ozone October 15, 2015 at 8:56 am #

    A bit about a man who codified state murder, violence and a vicious shadow government.

    zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-14/meet-allen-dulles-psychopath-who-created-americas-modern-shadow-govern…

    So, *now* we’re beginning to wonder wha’happen to the social fabric of this country? Phaw!

    This place absolutely reeks of trollery, foils of trolls and prideful ignorance.
    Have fun suckers; Winter’s coming… and probably a lot faster than you think…

    • Cold N. Holefield October 15, 2015 at 9:02 am #

      Yee Haw!!! Winter is my favorite season. I can’t wait. Soon enough, St. Nick will be coming down the chimney again, and don ‘t forget curling and ice fishing — two of my favorite pastimes.

      • stelmosfire October 15, 2015 at 10:17 am #

        Winter Blows, literally! Obviously you don’t shovel much snow. Property management is a PIA. Remember Halloween 2011?

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Halloween_nor%27easter

        No power for a week and cleaning up downed trees for weeks. I was trucking my generator all over town till it finally threw a rod and called it kaputeski.

        • stelmosfire October 15, 2015 at 10:22 am #

          32″ just up the road. 27″ at my place. Heavy wet snow. Winter Bites. My shoulders can’t take it anymore. The Ol’ lady wants to move south but I can’t stand Florida! I Hate it.

          • stelmosfire October 15, 2015 at 10:23 am #

            I’m wasting my time here. Time to cut some firewood.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

            Boston got far more than that. I feel terrible about missing it. The great Storms are a manifestation of Shiva, or God as Destroyer.

            I have Snow Envy.

      • Buck Stud October 15, 2015 at 2:11 pm #

        Before we yee haw celebrate let’s remind ourselves that winter brings ice and ice brings falls and falls bring outstretched arms resulting in rotator cuff tears along with broken hips, torn knees etc, etc etc.

        So if we can’t practice actual falling and making our bodies into balls Aikido style in order to diminish/mitigate the blunt impact of ordinary spontaneous falls, we should at least mentally rehearse in advance. As a true sage told me on the phone recently, even in thought/meditation, our nervous system is being programmed.

        And be extra careful walking around blind corners in icy conditions.

    • Q. Shtik October 15, 2015 at 11:59 am #

      Pshaw!

      • stelmosfire October 16, 2015 at 9:37 am #

        Pshaw? I’m impatient also. Snowin’ already up North aways. Just a cold 37 degree rain here. Time to go hang some doors, no Christians need apply.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2015 at 2:39 pm #

      Doomer Snob to the rescue!

    • ZrCrypDiK October 18, 2015 at 1:46 am #

      How much did “DC airport” Dulles play a role in Frank’s demise?!…

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson

  106. BackRowHeckler October 15, 2015 at 9:41 am #

    “This place reeks of trollery, foils of trolls and prideful ignorance”. — Oz.

    Pete, that’s the fun of it. Otherwise it would be just another hopeless doomer site nobody would want to come back too. Jim sets the tone; there’s plenty of cynical humor in the writing of his. It just rolls out from there, including your own posts, which can be pretty funny sometimes too.

    brh

    • malthuss October 15, 2015 at 11:19 am #

      Go back to Puerto Rico, where you belong.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2015 at 2:37 pm #

      Yes, we are very extended. A feral cat I feed always has trouble seeing me, just sees my legs when I open the door and thinks they’re pillars. It’s like the first Alien movie where we only see pieces of the Alien for most of the movie.

      • stelmosfire October 16, 2015 at 9:50 am #

        Hey Vlad, I’ve got a feral cat living in one of my barns. Meanest sumbitch’ I’ve ever seen. Orange tabby, 20 lbs if an ounce. walks with a limp, probably a car hit. I’ve caught him a coupla’ times in the havahart trap I set for skunks. He has a snarl like a catamount. I swear he is part bobcat. He would rip my nose off if I gave him the chance. I kinda’ like him. He steers clear of all other animals, humans included, Rats, rabbit, and mice live in dread!

        • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2015 at 2:29 pm #

          I think that such a mixture is possible if you have Bobcats around. They are attracted by domestic females in heat and obviously have the size advantage over domestic males. It’s not going to work the other way around: a female Bobcat would probably kill a domestic male who approached her. Some people think the large Male Coon breed came from such a mixture.

          Do you kill the skunks? Don’t waste the pelt – make a skunk skin cap.

          Racoons are great. They travel in gangs like very quiet monkeys. I watch them on my porch eating cat food. One of them had a ridiculous faux tragic look on his face. One of them approached the feral Tom who stood his ground, but wisely at the last second bolted. They don’t seem to be natural enemies, but the coons are bigger and are opportunistic feeders.

          • stelmosfire October 18, 2015 at 10:23 am #

            Hey Vladdy, there are not many ‘coons around here, plenty of raccoons though. One of my tenants ,who grew up in the “Berkshires”, came home from work very late one night and a raccoon jumped out of the trash bin and scared the livin’ bejesus out of him. He said it was the biggest raccoon he had ever seen, maybe 30 lbs. and he is from the hills and has seen many of these critters in his day. They are all over the ‘hood and eat well because they know how to open a trash bin with their hands, aka front paws, Dogs and cats don’t mess with a procyonid like that without a serious beat-down!.

  107. Buck Stud October 15, 2015 at 2:00 pm #

    With all the hyper-obsessive gender/LGTB hand wringing this week I’m surprised nobody has made mention of “family value” Republican Dennis Hastert pleading guilty this week to basically paying people off to stay quiet? Apparently Hastert was fond of young high school male wrestlers and was accused of sexual abuse.

    Anyway, I’m surprised that John Howard, Janos and BRH have expressed no outrage or consternation over said events. Maybe we’ve become inoculated to the shock of discovering yet another GOP family values type being outed as a queer, and an abusive one at that.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2015 at 2:41 pm #

      They are noting and objecting to a societal sea change driven by an Evil Elite, not trying to score political points – unlike you.

      • John Howard October 16, 2015 at 10:41 pm #

        Right, thanks Janos. And, we are not about shaming and judging people for their personal travails and transgressions. It’s really amazing how hypocritical the advocates of free love and sexual experimentation are when they want to be.

    • Reagan October 15, 2015 at 3:59 pm #

      Republican or Democrat doesn’t matter. Sadly, too many Americans and people around the globe highlight what Paul wrote to the Romans a couple of thousand years ago: Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

    • Frankiti October 15, 2015 at 5:12 pm #

      He gets a plea deal. Meanwhile poor people go to jail for simple possession and/or choked to death for selling loose cigarettes. Land of opportunity.

    • malthuss October 16, 2015 at 1:28 am #

      Penn State bought Mike Mc QUEERYs silence.

  108. Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2015 at 2:52 pm #

    Hispanic Terrorists try to disrupt Trump rallies, but they get shouted down and carted out by police. Feminist Cunt tries to shame Trump but gets made into a fool. You can’t derail the Trump Train. You can’t stump the Trump.

    dailystormer.com/the-donald-retweets-you-cant-stump-the-trump/

  109. Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2015 at 5:02 pm #

    cuddleparty.com/what-is/

    Cuddleston, Cuddleston, Cuddleston Pie!

    • ZrCrypDiK October 18, 2015 at 12:51 am #

      OMFG, they’re in their 12th year! Certified facilitators?!… Hahaha, I can’t stop laughing, Dad.

  110. malthuss October 16, 2015 at 1:31 am #

    Kunstler wrote TLE 12? years ago.

    That was a billion people ago.

  111. malthuss October 16, 2015 at 1:37 am #

    Meanwhile, in Texas, AnM guy,

    check out the story about the negro football player who stabbed a white male jogger Monday. Police say it was “totally random”.

    Attacker said he was “angry about his situation in life”.

    Translation: I killed YT because he is always keeping a brother down.”

    yahoo.com/sports/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/police-say-former-texas-a-m-wr-admits-to-monday-slaying-of-…

  112. FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2015 at 1:51 am #

    All major American publications except two awarded Hillary Clinton victory in the only televised democratic debate. Only “The Hill” and “The Week” wrote that Hillary blew the debate, but media are now trying to erase the memory of Hillary’s loss in people’s minds and replace it with a false memory of her win. This mainstream media implicitly shows that it thinks of supporters of the Democratic Party as of idiots.

    theweek.com/articles/583050/how-media-manipulate-memory-first-democratic-debate

    thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/256983-is-the-mainstream-media-in-the-tank-for-…

    • FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2015 at 5:59 am #

      Donald Trump is the only Republican candidate who openly demanded removal of Hillary Clinton from the race and jailing her, but may be not the last.

      Among Democrats, there are people who sympathize with him, including Senator Chafee, Senator Webb, and US President Barack Obama.

  113. FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2015 at 2:14 am #

    The advance of the Syrian Army is not going as fast as needed, and this is largely due to the peculiarities of the Arab mentality.

    Objective evidence shows that the advanced part of the government army in the morning on October 12 really took Kafr Naboodah, but most likely, were ambushed. And when the advance party was wiped out, losing one APC, the rest of the troops just stopped. This can be considered as a success of the opposition and lack of tactical training of the commanders of the government army. Even the prolonged civil war has not weaned from the eastern Syrians impressiveness and tendency to dramatize every event.

    In the Donbass, for example, the loss of one APC (even with an officer in it) not only did not stop successfully developing offensive, but, on the contrary, gave it an extra push under the slogan “for the guys!”. Under Kafr Naboodah it was the occasion to go to the positional battle.

    That is, of course, the Syrian military are glad for support of the Russians, but to fight as Russians are accustomed to, they are not ready, although they are much better motivated than opposing them militants and mercenaries from all over the world. Undoubtedly, this morale of Syrians needs to be taken into account in the preparation and planning of operations.

    regnum.ru/news/polit/1992211.html

  114. FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2015 at 2:52 am #

    US Navy veteran Christopher Harmer: When you see higher quality airmanship and precision fires coming from helicopters, that’s 100 percent Russian pilots

    He added that the skill displayed showed a “top shelf, highly trained, very courageous, and highly aggressive Russian helicopter crew.

    With Russian airstrikes devastating the self-proclaimed Islamic State terrorist group in Syria, Moscow’s Mi-24 attack helicopters have given the Kremlin a significant advantage. So effective, they’re even impressing Western skeptics.

    Also known as Hind helicopters, the Mi-24 is capable of traveling up to 186 miles per hour at incredibly low altitudes. Skimming the treetops, the gunships come equipped with 30mm guns and rocket launchers, and can transport troops.

    Part of that awe stems from the fact that the Mi-24 essentially does the job of two US helicopters. The Russian gunship combines the best qualities of the American Apache attack helicopter with the Huey transport helicopter.

    The Pentagon lacks any kind of comparable aircraft.

    sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151014/1028536243/mi-24-helicopter-wows-west.html

  115. FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2015 at 3:47 am #

    Yesterday was held next round of negotiations on the text of a possible agreement on the safety of flights over Syria, the Russian aircraft and aircraft of the coalition led by the United States. There was a noted convergence on key provisions of the future document. Parties have agreed on a procedure for further actions.

    The same work is carried out with colleagues from other countries.
    Yesterday was the first stage of training for interaction of Russian and Israeli Air Force in order to prevent dangerous incidents in the sky over the Syrian Arab Republic.

    A “hot line” between the Russian aircraft control center at the airbase “Hmeymim” and the Israeli Air Force command post was organized. Today will be the second phase of training with Israeli counterparts.

    function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12060909@egNews

  116. Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2015 at 3:51 am #

    breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/13/top-physicist-freeman-dyson-obama-picked-wrong-side-climate-…

    A genius with commonsense – which isn’t common. You don’t have it nor do you have his genius. Yet you think you are right and he is wrong. Sure, just like you know more about genetics than James Watson. Dream on little man while the Civilization your godly and god like ancestors built crumbles into dust. The savages shall hunt you thru the deserted trash filled streets once the super markets are picked clean. Best be out of town before then, little man. Why not die out in the country side, a clean death? Hypothermia isn’t a bad way to go all things considered. It beats the cannibal pot.

    • volodya October 16, 2015 at 2:11 pm #

      You would know by now that anyone who thinks anything like Dyson does is tarred by the intelligentsia – that is, the people who matter and who in the end make policy – at best as a buffoon. Or maybe as someone who works for the oil industry. Or maybe an unthinking grass-roots Republican.

      OTOH, they (the intelligentsia) see themselves as high-minded and objective.

      I don’t know science but I’ve had more than enough experience with people and I know what’s at work here. No high-mindedness, no objectivity and a lot of nasty stuff that has nothing to do with science.

  117. FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2015 at 8:31 am #

    Alexander Brodsky: How two million American Bikers stopped the World War

    It should be clearly understood that this is NOT the struggle between the US and Russia, but between two different worldviews; and Russian High School of Economics in conjunction with Russian Ministry of Education is more dangerous enemies of Russian people than the American State Department under Secretary Clinton.

    Of course we should bear in mind that the State Department is not part of the Obama administration, but we should not forget that Russia’s enemies in the United States are mostly un-elected and the fact that they are acting illegally largely ties their hands.

    And two years ago, it has allowed America to manifest itself in its entire splendor, when 2 million motorcyclists by just arriving in Washington stopped the Fourth World War.

    It is entirely another thing that since then the situation has deteriorated and now the Party of War can create a cache of weapons in Mosul to transfer it over to ISIS despite the ban of the President of the United States imposed on the supply of weapons to the Syrian opposition of any degree of moderation.

    Not to speak of airdrop of weapons to ISIS at the time when Russian and the US Army are negotiating on the prevention of such incidents.
    And partially the blame for the fact that the Party of War can give such orders is to some extent could be attributed to Russian media, which two years ago on the anniversary of the terrorist attack of 911 did not broadcast reports about the march on Washington of two million American bikers, most of whom were American soldiers, who vehemently object to US patronage of Islamists.

    The fact is that the war party specifically chose this day, not only for the march of “a million Muslims against charges of sympathizing with 911 terrorists “, which was not only planned to demoralize the American people and to demonstrate the power and influence of the Islamists in the United States, but also in order to pass a vote in the US Congress, which was to allow the bombing of Syria, after it was refused by President Obama.

    But the march of the Islamists did not take place – they were just afraid of 2 million bikers on the streets of Washington and permission to bomb Syria, too, had not been received since the vote did not take place precisely because of this motorcyclists’ march.

    Naturally, seeing the feat of American motorcyclists received no media coverage, not only in the US but also in Russia, the party of war, embodied by Hillary Clinton has decided that there is nothing to be ashamed of. They took advantage of this in order to remove from the army and not only the army but also from all of the veteran organizations all people of the old school as the leaders of this movement.

    And they have achieved this with the help of the law legalizing gays in the military, as the opponents of the Clintons are the people of the old school, and only recently service of homosexuals in the military service of the United States was allowed.

    As a result, during the democratic debate the point of view of the conservative part of the army almost was not represented, despite the fact that most of the veterans of the Vietnam War, associate themselves with the Democratic Party – precisely because of this, Bernie Sanders, who refused to serve in the army in Vietnam, led a committee of Congress on Veterans Affairs.

    Only Senator Webb on the debate to some extent represented the part of the American army, which believes that Russia’s intervention in Syria was a direct result of the “Arab Spring”, supported, and perhaps provoked by Hillary Clinton.

  118. Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2015 at 2:50 pm #

    dailystormer.com/the-donald-calls-out-the-democrat-debate-hoax-no-one-attacked-hillary/

    The Fix is in. Bernie, why? Only Biden can save them, but do they deserve it? No.

    The Blue Dog Democrat is all but extinct. Biden is a full on lunatic. In short, they are as ridiculous as the Republicans – and that’s no mean feat.

  119. Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2015 at 3:05 pm #

    nydailynews.com/news/world/man-sex-car-exhaust-tailpipe-video-article-1.2219271

    Fuck cars. This guy is a potential recruit to Clusterfuck Nation. Will not someone reach out to him? Yeah, he’s a bit literal, but not entirely to be blamed. For years they used sexy models to sell cars. His primitive circuitry made the connection and didn’t have any competing circuitry to cancel it out. The Car has become a tribal fetish much like shoes are for others. And of course lingerie is an “acceptable” fetish. Why lingerie and not shoes and not cars?

    Check your racism people. Countless White guys are probably doing this in the privacy of their own garage. This guy doesn’t have a gar-AGE (and the English pronounce it) so he had to do it in public. The more serious issue: was this his car or was he fucking somebody else’s? That’s wrong.

  120. wpa_ccc October 16, 2015 at 8:08 pm #

    Finca, you are looking at opinion in mainstream publications. Immediately after the debate actual voters (not paid journalists) said who won the debate: 75% said Bernie won and 18% said Hillary won.

    But now Bernie has become invisible again as Clintonistas and Clinton’s enemies team up to change the narrative from reality to the supposed “inevitability” of Clinton. It will be fun watching Clinton begin to lose actual elections… Then maybe Bernie will begin to gain visibility.

    Jeb Bush is proving money is not important. He just spent $5 Million on TV ads and his numbers went down! Either you have the voters like Bernie, or you don’t, like Bush. But you cannot buy voters anymore.

    –wpa–ccc

  121. FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2015 at 9:36 pm #

    Trolling on the highest level

    After the barrage of 26 Russian Naval missiles from the Caspian Sea, nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt discovered that it needs urgent repairs and left the Persian Gulf without leaving replacement.

    Of course the fact that Theodore Roosevelt was the 26th President of the United States has nothing to do with odd number of Russian missiles.

    ==========================

    Obama refused Russian PM Medvedev the right to enter the United States to negotiate a bombing campaign in Syria after Moscow asked for Vice President Biden to head the American negotiators.

    Biden in 2011 arrived in Russia and under the personal guarantees persuaded then-President Medvedev to make Russian representative at the United Nations to abstain in the Security Council over Libya no-fly zone, which, contrary to the promises, turned into a full-scale bombing campaign against Libya.

  122. FincaInTheMountains October 17, 2015 at 5:22 am #

    Siege of Jerusalem will finally blow the Middle East up

    The war in Syria and the “Arab Spring” drove out of sight of the main problem of the Middle East – the Arab-Israeli conflict. But the events of recent days returned to Jerusalem the status of the most volatile place in the world: in fact, a third intifada has started – the Palestinian Arab war against the Jews. If intifada unfold in full force, its impact on the situation in the Middle East, particularly against the background of the war with the Caliphate, will be enormous.

    While in Syria, there are fights between the armed troops, planes fly and tanks shoot, in a neighboring Israel resumed the civil war – already four dozen people were killed and hundreds injured.

    Will Israel be able to put intifada out? It is highly unlikely: the blockade of Jerusalem can only inflate hatred. This is when it comes to civil perturbation – with stones and knives – and what would happen if to the aid of “besieged by Jews holy city” rush Caliphate soldiers and real suicidal jihadists?

    The ongoing now reformatting of the Middle East is still tied to Jerusalem, wherever there are wars – in Syria, Yemen and Libya – the key to the pacification of the region is still in that city and on that mountain. Real peace in the Middle East will come only when there will be peace in Jerusalem, and that the only thing you can be sure in relation to this burning region.

    vz.ru/politics/2015/10/16/772641.html

    • BackRowHeckler October 17, 2015 at 11:33 am #

      “Siege of Jerusalem will finally blow up the Middle East” — Finca

      Finca, are you serious? You think the situation right now in Jerusalem is that dire?

      Does a link exist between Hezbollah, Hamas, the PLO and ISIS? Or are these orgs. at odds with one another, with different goals and aims, engaged in the existential Hobbsian struggle, where its all against all, and winner take all?

      Incidentally, Muslim migrants are being relocated into small German towns, not just big cities, where they will actually outnumber native German villagers. Wait till they begin to coalesce around their new mosques (converted Lutheran and Catholic Churches) and start making demands, which is already happening. These demands better be met, or else.

      brh

      • FincaInTheMountains October 17, 2015 at 12:02 pm #

        “Finca, are you serious? You think the situation right now in Jerusalem is that dire?”

        Jerusalem on Lockdown, Prepares to Defend Against Terror:

        jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/jerusalem-on-lockdown-prepares-to-defend-against-terror/2015/10/1…

        “Does a link exist between Hezbollah, Hamas, the PLO and ISIS? ”

        Do not think so. ISIS appears to be entirely a project of at least some part of Western Elite (Hillary & Co??) that went awry, just like the German Nazi project of 1930s.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2015 at 2:33 pm #

        You’re getting mixed up: Hezbollah are the good guys opposed to ISIS, Saudi Arabia, America, and Israel. They are allied with Russia and Iran. They are Shiites. The Sunni Savages (ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, etc) hate the Shia.

        Face it: we’re the evil empire now. Russia and its allies are the good guys. Finc and Israel are trying to reposition themselves to be with the winners. Remember Orwell’s, Oceania has always been allied with Eurasia and at war with East Asia. Don’t expect loyalty from this crowd.

        • BackRowHeckler October 17, 2015 at 5:27 pm #

          Yeah, its pretty complicated.

          truthfully, East Asia, Oceania, Eurasia, all of that in ‘1984’, seem simple by comparison.

          For example, the Turks blame the blast last week in Ankara that killed nearly 100 people on both ISIS and the Kurds. But aren’t the Kurds and ISIS battlefield enemies, mightily trying to destroy one another?

          brh

      • malthuss October 18, 2015 at 5:41 pm #

        news.yahoo.com/syrian-refugees-arrive-michigan-makes-case-more-142846694.html

        Michigan.

        Somehow ISIS will rebuild Detroit.

        Yahoo sez so.

  123. wpa_ccc October 17, 2015 at 10:36 am #

    “We were attacked & my brother kept us safe. –Jeb Bush

    “No, JebBush, you’re pathetic for saying nothing happened during your brother’s term when the World Trade Center was attacked and came down,” –Trump

  124. volodya October 17, 2015 at 11:35 am #

    Imagine that this world is an unbearable place. And you seek relief the best way you know how. But you’ve overdone it.

    Now imagine that you’re at death’s door. Imagine that you lose sight of this world. Imagine that you’ve caught a glimpse of the other side. And you want to go to that light-filled place.

    But no, somehow it’s not to be. And you’re drawn back from that state of happiness.

    And you regain consciousness. And you’re in a hospital room. And at your bedside is a Kardashian.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2015 at 3:57 pm #

      They may not be White, but they are certainly White compared to Kanye and Co. Far more attractive than Black Women.

  125. FincaInTheMountains October 17, 2015 at 12:19 pm #

    Looks like jihadists started to arrive en masse to their long awaited virgins in semi-liquid or dispersed state. Still remaining alive cut their beards off:

    zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-16/humiliation-complete-isis-fighters-cut-beards-and-run-away-russia-iran…

    I wonder why we don’t have any new beheading videos?

    • BackRowHeckler October 17, 2015 at 1:00 pm #

      Russia is definitely kicking ass.

      Looks like ISIS was effective against young Yazide and Christian girls, not so effective against Russian Armed Forces.

      brh

  126. FincaInTheMountains October 17, 2015 at 1:17 pm #

    It was reported last night that Saudi Arabia probably has already delivered the first batch of anti-aircraft missiles Stinger to terrorist organizations in Syria.

    In Saudi Arabia the ruling family after the Afghan campaign of the 1980s and impunity for the 911 attacks has acquired an acute intestinal/brain obstruction. To normalize their work Russia has warned Saudi Arabia that it can create a no-fly zone over Yemen.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2015 at 4:27 pm #

      How can we defeat the Saudi/American/Israeli/ISIS coalition with a minimum loss of life on all sides?

      And if you love Russia SO much, why aren’t you in the Jewish Homeland (given to them by Father Joe Stalin) in Siberia?

      • FincaInTheMountains October 17, 2015 at 4:48 pm #

        Sometimes, Janos, I wonder myself. I miss freeze-balls Siberian winter on the god damned Island, however I know I won’t be able to take it anymore…

      • BackRowHeckler October 17, 2015 at 5:12 pm #

        Janos, who the hell would want to live in Siberia?

        Altho I have known people who moved to Alaska. Most of them came back.

        brh

        • nsa October 17, 2015 at 10:28 pm #

          Would you rather live in Siberia with white people, or some turd world hell hole in Africa where it’s nice and warm?

        • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2015 at 11:36 pm #

          Look at the map: the Jewish oblast is no further north than Hokkaido, so the winter would be like Minnesota or Montreal. Shamefully, there are very few Jews who want to be pioneers. They all defected to Israel. Most people are Russian and Orthodox.

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

          The panhandle of Alaska isn’t that cold, nor does it get hot. Just cool and cooler.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2015 at 11:38 pm #

            Not too much info unfortunately. I don’t know if the soil is good enough for farming or if there is mineral wealth as there is in some parts of Siberia. No doubt there are trees and that means lumber to the materially minded.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2015 at 11:48 pm #

          You don’t have much feel for Siberia, BRH. Remember, White Americans are probably going to have to flee across the Bering Strait to Siberia some day so we might as well start getting acquainted with one of the Earth’s last frontiers – a land sanctified by countless Orthodox hermits.

          Check out this Louie L’amour novel about an American Indian pilot shot down over Siberia who has to walk across back to America.

          amazon.com/Last-Breed-Novel-Louis-LAmour/dp/0553280422/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1445…

          • BackRowHeckler October 18, 2015 at 12:25 am #

            Much of the Gulag was in Siberia, Janos, at places like Kolyma and Vorkuta. Logging and timbering, along with gold mining, were the big Gulag industries … millions died cutting down trees and digging in the earth for precious metals. 100 degrees below 0, mosquitoes the size of hummingbirds, summers that last 3 weeks, it doesn’t sound like my kind of place.

            Incidentally, are you aware that in 1944, none other than the Vice President of the United States, Henry Wallace, actually visited the Kolyma death camp, where as many as 2 million human beings were worked to death, shot, and annihilated in the harshest conditions that exist on earth, spending 3 weeks there, and pronouncing it a pretty nice place, a fine example of Socialist reform efforts. The Soviets created a Potemkin Village, and Wallace was duped. (Maybe because he wanted to be duped.)

            brh

  127. FincaInTheMountains October 18, 2015 at 12:01 am #

    Russian Secret Weapon Deployed in Syria

    From the combat zone in northern Syria comes news of the deployment of a new Russian electronic jamming system which can reportedly blind radar, disrupt electronic guidance systems, and interfere with satellite imagery as well. As a result, NATO is effectively blinded inside a bubble of 600 km in diameter centered on the Russian base at Latakia, reports, Thierry Meyssan from Damascus.

    NATO supreme commander and US Air Force General Philip Breedlove was probably talking about this new KRET system when he addressed the German Marshall Fund on Monday, September 28. Here Breedlove had warned that Russia was creating an “A2/AD bubble” over the Syrian coast, and the eastern Mediterranean. A2/AD is the abbreviation for anti-access and area denial. Breedlove pointed out that Russia has already established such bubbles over the Baltic Sea at the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad, and also over the Crimea and the black Sea.

    In addition, the Russian military had provided a demonstration of their ability to blind even the sophisticated Aegis phased array radar, which is part of the equipment of modern US cruisers and destroyers.

    “The US destroyer USS Donald Cook, equipped with Tomahawk cruise missiles entered the neutral waters of the Black Sea on April 10, 2014. The purpose was a demonstration of force and intimidation in connection with the position of Russia in Ukraine and Crimea. The appearance of American warships in these waters is in contradiction of the Montreux Convention about the nature and duration of stay in the Black Sea by the military ships of countries not washed by this sea. In response, Russia sent an unarmed bomber Su- 24 to fly around the U.S. destroyer. However, experts say that this plane was equipped with the latest Russian electronic warfare complex. According to this version, Aegis spotted from afar the approaching aircraft, and sounded alarm. Everything went normally, and the American radars calculated the speed of the approaching target. But suddenly all the screens went blank. Aegis was not working any more, and the rockets could not get target information. Meanwhile, Su-24 flew over the deck of the destroyer, did battle turn and simulated a missile attack on the target. Then it turned and repeated the maneuver. And did so 12 times.”

    tarpley.net/kerry-wants-enablers-on-the-ground-in-syria-but-no-decision-from-obama-on-ground-war-yet…

  128. ZrCrypDiK October 18, 2015 at 2:18 am #

    I hate to admit it, but Bill Maher nailed it on the head, re: suicide shooters. Apparently all of them never had a girlfriend, and couldn’t even have discussions with the opposite sex.

    Yeah, HBO whuz free this weekend – heh!

  129. FincaInTheMountains October 18, 2015 at 8:36 am #

    Thierry Meyssan: NATO is totally blind in Syria

    New Russian communication jamming weapon block all electronics, including satellite. NATO does not know what is going on.

    World Crisis Radio
    October 17, 2015
    Listen around 30 minutes into the show

    tarpley.net/audio/WCR-20151017.mp3

  130. FincaInTheMountains October 18, 2015 at 8:40 am #

    I heard the estimates that Russia in military technology is about 25 years ahead of US, didn’t believe myself.

    And Russian GDP is what? 10% of Apple capitalization? Why don’t Americans use more latest iPhones in Syria?

    • Buck Stud October 18, 2015 at 10:45 am #

      I must admit some of your posted assertions are interesting. How true and valid, well that’s anyone’s guess–I certainly don’t know. What I do know is the military/industrial complex in the U.S. loves being in the underdog position. IOW, all these media displays of Russian military prowess, will certainly keep the dollars flowing into military coffers. The below is from a Heritage Foundation article which should raise a skeptical eyebrow in and of itself but nonetheless:

      “Russia is clearly aware of its own military weakness. The Kremlin recognizes that its military-industrial complex trails the West in a number of key platform characteristics: computers; communications; space and other key technologies,[15] such as radio and microelectronics;[16] and that Russia’s C4ISR[17] is often problematic at best. Nikolay Makarov, then-chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia, said in March 2011 that Russia’s science and military are hopelessly behind Western countries: “For the last two decades, we have been unable to raise the military to a modern level.… While the rest of the world was busy developing space technologies, information systems and massively buying weapons, we kept relying on an army of mass mobilization and purchases of obsolete military equipment.”[18]”

      heritage.org/research/reports/2014/05/a-us-response-to-russias-military-modernization

  131. FincaInTheMountains October 18, 2015 at 8:51 am #

    Webster Tarpley: War Party Taking Control of US Government as Obama’s Power Wanes

    According to Webster, the Obama “forced” decision of extending military presence of US in Afghanistan was “extorted” from him by the War Party

    tarpley.net/kerry-wants-enablers-on-the-ground-in-syria-but-no-decision-from-obama-on-ground-war-yet…

    • Being There October 18, 2015 at 10:42 am #

      Thanks for posting the Tarpley article. Obama should hold a fireside chat to save his own life at this point. There is no future in Afghanistan. It’s a costly tar baby and the US is in the Brier patch of spending $$$trillions.

      ______________________
      This feeds into the promise that we’re going to save ourselves from catastrophy by escaping to Mars….mhmmmm…..

      peakprosperity.com/blog/94818/death-hopium

      It’s about the tech bubble bursting and what is all this about….the same exact system as the Casino Royale Wall st. model which Wall street is backing…

      [Like the too-cozy relationship between DC and Wall Street, I see a similar one between Wall Street and the Tech sector. They collude to pump out as many opportunities as they can — private placements, acquisitions, IPOs, secondary offerings — to cash out the insiders and foist the long-term financial risk onto the “dumb money” (pension funds, foreign capital, retail investors, corporations desperate to enter the “digital age”). The dreams of ‘changing the world’ or revolutionizing lives by making great products have taken a distant back seat to the drive to have as lucrative an “exit” as possible. If that exit requires selling junk to unassuming buyers, so be it.

      As with Wall Street in general, the Tech story has been driven by ferocious and cheap liquidity. The Fed and the other major world central banks pumped trillions and trillions of freshly-printed money into the system starting in 2008, and it largely went into the hands of the major financial institutions and the top 1%. All that money has to go somewhere, and the high-potential rewards offered by tech ventures is a really attractive magnet for it. Coupling that with the administration’s “Don’t worry, technology will save us!” meme to calm market jitters, and the media’s amplification of that message in desperate hopes it will come true, it should come as little surprise that money has been lining up to enter Silicon Valley over the past 6 years. There literally have not been enough ventures to invest in to soak up the supply of capital sloshing around Silicon Valley.]

      • ZrCrypDiK October 18, 2015 at 1:43 pm #

        OMFG, I swear, (San Jose) *Mom* (Chauncey Gartner?), I just read your month-old critique of “eyesore” (post-trainwreck/shipping container fiasco)…

        Will ‘they’ ever get it? How hard is it to do, “your homework?” Apparently, much harder than ‘video veggin’ on 6 minute program/4 minute commercial spam-fest loop-DE-loop….