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There’s a simple reason that the old US Ship-of-State has turned into a garbage barge of toxic politics: both sides are operating in obviously bad faith — making arguments and taking positions that they know are false— and it’s been on full display this past week.
For instance, the Trump rally in Evansville, Indiana, Thursday night. The Golden Gloating Golem of Greatness presided over the spectacle in full gloatissimo mode, playing his audience of economic losers like a Hammond B-3 organ at a roller rink. His performance was oddly like the sort of rant that Uber drivers must suffer through with a fare who has been tweaking cocaine for three days en route to a funeral or a foreclosure. And, yes, I know that the President is said to abstain from mind-altering substances, but it appears that his mind has been sufficiently altered by his bizarre life experience to produce a similar effect. How else could he stand before an audience of millions (if you include the folks watching TV) and bellow, “I’m president and they’re not!”
Radiating anger and, at times, actual malice, Mr. Trump presented exactly the lack of couth that drives his hypothetically more refined “blue” enemies up a tree. His rhetorical skills have not improved since 2016, but his demagogic self-confidence soars as he unwittingly launches himself into a one-man Space Force flying too close to the sun, claiming that he has magically made America great again, mission accomplished! Even the live audience of Hoosier clods appeared strangely restive and unconvinced after an hour of this bellowing, and one got a sense of Mr. Trump slip-sliding towards Hubrisville like some ass-clown pol in a Coen Brothers’ movie about to be run out of the grange hall on a rail.
His error: taking “ownership” of a financialized economy of hallucinated markets run by out-of-control algo robots into a twilight zone of default and insolvency. The “red” and “blue” constituencies at war with each other are essentially the losers and winners in this depraved system. When the hallucination dissolves, the winners will be the new losers and the old losers will be looking to string them up. That scenario remains to be played out as we say our official goodbyes to summer this holiday weekend and turn the corner into portentous autumn.
On the “blue” side of things, mendacity rules as usual lately, especially in the Deep State septic abscess that the Russia probe has become. Department of Justice official Bruce Ohr, twice demoted but still on the payroll, went into a closed congressional hearing and apparently threw everybody but his mother under the bus, laying out an evidence trail of stupendous, flagrant corruption in that perfidious scheme to un-do the election results of 2016. Most amazingly, it was revealed that Mr. Ohr had not been called to testify by special counsel Robert Mueller nor by the federal prosecutor John Huber, who is charged with investigating the FBI / DOJ irregularities surrounding the Russia probe. It is amazing because Mr. Ohr is precisely the pivotal figure in what now looks like an obvious conspiracy to politically weaponize the agencies against the Golden Golem. An awful lot of people have some ‘splainin’ to do on that one, starting with the Attorney General and his deputy. Who will put it to them?
The New York Times, once known as the Newspaper of Record, continued to ignore that story. Their bad faith specialty these days is stoking the fires of race war under the pretense of “social justice.” For instance, the op-ed piece they ran today (Friday) titled The Religion of Whiteness Becomes a Suicide Cult. It’s hard to imagine a better way to send those Hoosier clods to the gun cabinet — and not to blow their own brains out, either, but to hunt down the very Wokesters who openly pledge to exterminate them. This isn’t even “fake news.” It’s more like racist sedition.
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The layer of selfish incompetence, taking the form of deadlock, piled on top of a shaky economy, is a perfect recipe for a serious crisis to occur in the next year or two. Maybe it won’t, but there odds aren’t against it, and it will be another step towards the coming dark age.
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” In the end, a dark age is not just when a society is no longer functional in the ways it once was, but when it cannot function at all any longer.”
Dark Age indeed, thank you for the excellent link. I liked the author’s praise for our host as well. As far as predicting “the market” how can that be even possible when there is, in fact, NO “market”, but simply a digit posted on a screen?
Thank you. JHK has been an inspiration to me for a long time now, when I first started exploring these topics. One thing he does is manage to remind people that we have at least some power to determine where things end up after a crash. Do we carry forward the same bad choices which lead us to that in the first place, or do we learn and find ways to live a little more harmoniously and “real?” The comparison of Karptown vs. Union Grove vs. the New Faithers in the “World Made by Hand” series was a great example of those did could not accept what happened, versus those who were merely surviving, and those who were thriving.
The other thing, I think, is that “prepping” is dominated (but not exclusively) by people who want an industrial lifeboat to carry through from one side of an upheaval to another, where they can get on again with their plugged-in lives. It just doesn’t work that way, unfortunately. That is a response to a short-term crisis, not a long-term and likely permanent change to a culture, therefore the idea of a coming dark age is dismissed prematurely, and dark ages topics don’t get discussed enough.
Really, I don’t see an end to our civilization from an old-fashioned financial or political collapse. Very bad times, much death and violence, but not the grand finale. OTOH, a geophysical, cosmic or nuclear war event could spell our doom. If a star goes supernova or the Earth enters into the midst of a poisonous gas cloud, or the sun gets a bad case of indigestion, there’s nothing we can do, so why worry? Nature may decide to rid itself of the pests that infect its surface by climate change or a new, deadly virus – that would make our civilization’s survival problematical – but I’m not into TEOTW scenarios.
A “rogue planet” turning the earth inside out while evaporating all “kind” (not just human) seems the great James Dean-esque way to imagine it all ending to me.
I too say the odds are slim in any one person’s lifetime, but something will eventually happen…as “stuff happens” we know.
Jajjajaja
I find it interesting and fun comparing fundamentalist religious and environmentalist (am i repeating myself?) “end of the world” scenarios sometimes to show people the similarities on the college campus where I work.
I agree Beantown, but it certainly seems that our political system has already collapsed. My duties often take me to the State House in Trenton and if you could see what it really is like on the inside, you would have little choice but to agree. It has gotten so non-functional that even those with the power cannot make much of anything happen either for the good or the bad.
Yes the masses need to think happy thoughts and fill themselves with hope or dope, whichever they have to do to stay that way. But when the time comes that everybody, including those critical thinkers who frequent this place, accept the “everything goes and nothing really matters mindset”, well it will all be over for good. I cannot imagine an entire society just sitting there believing that if we all just wish hard enough and think enough happy thoughts that everything will all work out fine. That day will be the day that total enslavement of the mindless masses will be here. Doubt that and deny that all you care to but all it will take is a couple of greedy assholes at the top to take total advantage of the Happy, happy’s, and trust me, they will. Happy, happy’s make the easiest victims. Always have, always will.
I have serious doubts about such ‘dark’ topics being discussed at any point in the mainstream – and by the mainstream I don’t just mean media and the political circus, I mean ordinary people.
When I was relatively fresh into this stuff I used to mention to friends and one or two colleagues (fairly lightly) the possibility that things wouldn’t always be the way they now are and why, and you could see people literally backing away. So I stopped.
The current wisdom is to avoid ‘negative’ people because they ‘bring you down’. ‘Surround yourself with optimists’ is the prevailing advice.
Barbara Ehrenreich’s book ‘Smile or Die – how positive thinking fooled America and the World’ is good on this – she devotes a chapter to the ‘positive thinking’ that allowed the 2007/8 masters of the universe to believe the impossible. She doesn’t broach peak oil territory, though, but the mindset problems are the same. And the US is the home of ‘positive thinking’, even though it’s probably not what it was even there these days.
‘Think it. See it. Make it happen’! Haha.
I never know quite what you’re trying to say, JohnG, although I take that to be entirely a signifier of my own inadequacy.
Well, take this as an expression of your adequacy then.
The human critter it seems is not meant for consideration of long term problems and is lacking in self control. They don’t think logically yet they deceive themselves that they do. A logical reason, which will make no damn sense, shall be found to take any conversation immediately away from the dark topic of collapse.
The nail which protrudes will be hammered down. Human nature does not allow mere things like facts to intrude on its’ social arrangements.
It sounds like Trump was playing the role of the racist grandpa in Indiana that everyone just tolerates.
We live in interesting times indeed.
“racist grandpa”, of what color?
Not “sleight of hand” on your part as the old phrase goes, but instead “sleight of mouth”.
The author of the above mentioned NYT Hate Whitey screed (imagine that, in the Newspaper of Record! Was it approved by their new Korean editorial board member, who claims whites smell like dogs and wants us all dead!) is named Pankrat Mishra.
Enough said!
brh
Enough said!
brh
Promise?
The author’s name is Pankaj Mishra.
How much of this “Hate Whitey screed” did you actually read? My guess is not much, and what you did read you either misunderstood or are actively misrepresenting. The article lays out the history of how white-supremacist ideology and the sowing of racialized fears as a tool of domination permeated international relations from the late 19th century up to the mid-20th. Mishra observes how pseudo-scientific racism and outright colonial exploitation went into the shadows in the aftermath of WWII (and for obvious reasons) but now white supremacists are making a last-gasp bid to return to the mainstream.
How telling this true story amounts to a “Hate Whitey screed” is easy to see: People who rely on their own privilege, and expect to keep others subordinate, experience creeping equality as aggression against themselves. You offer a fine example, BRH.
If you can criticize BRH for misreading the article, how can you not understand what the have-nots will do when they see it?
As so often happens, of those who disagree with me you have the sanest response, Walter B. But I can’t help what the have-nots will do; I agree with Mishra’s analysis nonetheless.
For 500+ years now, Europeans and we their descendants have roamed the world, pursuing advantage for ourselves, including grabbing advantages away from other peoples as and where it suited us. I’m not wagging my finger as I say this, I’m just stating what everyone knows. Also, we weren’t alone in this (think Japan in China), but we were far out in front. This enterprise has been aided by a storyline we spun for ourselves about our cultural and even biological superiority. For example, we actually persuaded ourselves for several centuries that we were doing millions of people a favour by holding them in bondage and working them, under torture, to within inches of their lives. And even when that came to an end, the storyline carried on.
What was crucial about the story wasn’t the parts of it that reflected well on us; arts, sciences, et cetera. Nor was it the parts that were lies, fabrications and slanders about others. What was crucial about this story was that it underwrote and furnished a justification for the settler-colonial enterprise that Christopher Columbus touched off in 1492. This storyline is now dying. NB: it’s not white people themselves who are dying — not in South Africa or anywhere else. Claims about white farmers being targeted in S.A. and white girls being raped in Uppsala are pretty much all just white-supremacist raving. People who depend on this dying narrative for their psychological sustenance are increasingly realizing they’re going to be people like other people, in a world that needs to accommodate people of all kinds. Some of them don’t like it; boo-hoo. And as for those threatening or perpetrating violence over it, they need to be treated like the criminals they are.
Sorry I can’t be more accommodating, Walter B, but please don’t think I’ll accept blame for being devoted to factual truth, even when it triggers people’s anxieties and hatreds.
There are a couple of posters on this blog that are so mindless or so obnoxious that I have always had a very hard time remaining civil with them. You and I would probably not make for the best of friends, (or maybe we might), but I always enjoy arguing, or discussing points back and forth. You are a gentleman and a scholar and I will always respect your point of view even if I do not usually agree with it. Thank you.
Walter, he’s denying our People are being slaughtered in South Africa. He knows that’s the death of the Narrative that he’s spent his life serving. You’re being seduced by the Enemy.
Well Janos, so many deny everything do they not? It is so easy to do when it is not happening to them even if they will squeal like piggy’s if it does. Denial eases the conscious and allows people to ignore real problems and go back about their own more important (at least to them) lives.. I have read and seen a lot about South Africa but I would not subject my opinion on the matter to derision by armchair quarterbacks.
Unlike others, EH expresses his opinions civilly and as he and I just both admitted, we usually do not agree. If the white hatred is indeed a problem and it does in fact spread, it will be because those who rule over us want it to happen and allow it to happen. We can deal with it then and quit ye like men. I see no other viable option.
Yes Elrond, the Europeans, at least the British the French and the Dutch, were pretty “good” (ruthless) at colonizing and enslaving other, less well armed and organized countries and setting up systems to drain the wealth from their colonies. Since WWII, America has also become proficient at the practice. If by saying that “we their descendants” you mean that because we allow our corrupt governments to continue to rape the world, again, I have no argument. Those of us who despise the practice of globe raping by our government I suppose are still guilty by association, at least arguably, so perhaps I see your meaning.
From what I have seen and heard of the situation in South Africa, the murders may be overplayed, but the situation appears to be tenuous at best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEDIeBUAEVk
It also appears that the roles are being reversed and I would assume that it would be a damned good idea if you are white to GTF out of there ASAP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C2R12xQDDE
I suppose it can be argued that it is just their turn in the barrel but Luhrenloup says it best at the lower section of this page:
“…having concluded that most of racism is created and nurtured by politicians and the main stream press. And further, that either everyone deserves affirmative action as we have all been discriminated against for one reason or another, or no one does.” Well said, I say.
Unfortunately for us, in modern, “civilized” societies, it is no longer necessary that the guilty party has to pay for their injustices as long as somebody, anybody does. I guess it is easier that way.
Thank you for the clip with the tent-dwellers, Walter. That was interesting.
I have personally never been discriminated against, though, so I feel blessed.
No, actually, I do remember one things:
I went for an interview once for a job with a housing association that I could have done with my eyes shut. My daughter was three at the time and my husband on too low a wage to keep us all.
The interviewer asked me if I had children (which is now illegal to ask) and said ‘well, we all know what mothers of three-year olds are like when the child gets measles’. I was so taken aback that I didn’t have the presence of mind to tell him that (a) she was vaccinated against measles and (b) my husband also had a three-year-old child, but I knew right then I wasn’t getting the job.
I don’t feel the need for any affirmative action, though – it was just one of those things where you have to deal with ignorant and biased people and you just get on and get a job somewhere else…
one thing…
“. The article lays out the history of how white-supremacist ideology and the sowing of racialized fears as a tool of domination permeated international relations from the late 19th century up to the mid-20th. Mishra observes how pseudo-scientific racism and outright colonial exploitation went into the shadows in the aftermath of WWII (and for obvious reasons) but now white supremacists are making a last-gasp bid to return to the mainstream.”
Elrond,
Couching history within a racial metric is nothing more than weapons-grade Marxist bullshit. The article describes winners and losers in historical context. White-supremacy was, at that time, amply demonstrated, as was black inferiority…culturally. Could you please give us an example otherwise?
With all respect, Elrond, you are not enlightened or evolved in accepting this crap, but rather manipulated by those that would have you a “useful Idiot” in their efforts to further destabilize our declining culture. I would invite your Pankaj Mishra to stop moralizing and kiss my big black ass….
Are you black? I think it would not be unseemly to hereby proffer you a membership in the society of Honorary Aryans (Ehrenarier) if it would not be amiss.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_Aryan
But only if Janos as co-dictator concurs…
Tate,
No, I am white, but I (correctly) use the term to accurately describe “myself”, and no one who knows me would/could disagree. Our Host, were he to comment would not suggest otherwise.
I thank you for the offer of honorary “Ehenarier”…but you had better clear the offer with Janos…he is more aware of my clouded familial history.
I’ve been warning Whites that the Elite hated them and official statements of late have completely vindicated me. Today’s is simply the latest and clearest. Whites must organize and prepare to do what needs must be done. They have been utterly betrayed by their Elite and the Elite’s mandarin class – that’s you buddy.
By “whites” do you include the Irish, since they were often caricatured as apes in the Victorian era papers and cartoons where much of this racist drivel was given air. Or are we really just fixating on melanin?
For now, yes, he includes them. Though not on any principled basis, since white supremacy centers prejudice and subordination of disfavoured groups, not principle.
Those who landed on American shores from Ireland in the 19th century certainly weren’t received as white people — Irish Catholic immigrants were the Muslims of their time. It’s crucially important to understand that white in this case isn’t skin colour, or race (21st century biologists do not recognize race as a concept), but caste. It took decades for anti-Irish prejudice to recede to the point where an Irish Catholic could be considered a candidate for the American ruling class, much less for president (and John F. Kennedy still faced hysteria over his Catholicism). Ask a modern bigot like Janos, though, and he’ll erase this history and scornfully tell you that of course Irish people are white; they’re inside the caste line now, after all, and complicating that history undermines him, so it never happened.
Don’t be fooled. If a new white supremacy takes root, the caste boundaries will start shrinking again immediately as the new brahmins-in-Stetsons seek to entrench their dominance. The ultimate goal is to overthrow the Enlightenment and force us all back into feudalism. Just read some of the fantasies that white supremacists spin for each other to understand their mindset. The Turner Diaries is the best known example, but there’s also this, er, thing that Janos copy/pasted last year. In it, a French author foresees technological and environmental collapse as an opportunity to reassert barbaric values and achieve a white-supremacist utopia of unreason:
“Dr. Faye imagines mystic initiations, rites of passage, and fervent forms of religion in what he calls ‘the new Middle Ages.’ He sees most people as poorer but much more attached to their communities … Not all people will live this way, however. Advanced technology will not have completely disappeared. A small elite will enjoy its benefits, and will live in material abundance. Dr. Faye … seems to think the elite will run things kindly through an aristocracy … The masses, in turn, will be satisfied with their lot, barely conscious of the gilded lives led by their betters.”
Hooray for our betters! Hooray for poverty and ignorance! (And I didn’t even mention the human/animal hybrids.) If you don’t find this as nauseating as I do, I don’t wanna know you. Anyway, this is what they have in mind, and there’s no way to escape fighting back until this hideous vision is stuffed back in its coffin.
In other words, Whites don’t exist but Blacks do? This is the Existential Attack since a People who don’t exist have no rights. In your little Red Book, even amorphous groups like the Hispanics exist and have all kinds of rights Whites don’t have since we don’t exist.
Your Homework: By what possible Legal and Moral right was Affirmative Action extended to Immigrants, thereby making White Americans 3rd class citizens? Oh never mind: We don’t exist. And neither do you, nowhere “man”.
Elrond
I just re-read that tract on ‘Dr Faye’. It was a bit like meeting Evil personified. Leaves you feeling you need a shower for letting your brain even engage with it.
“The masses, in turn, will be satisfied with their lot, barely conscious of the gilded lives led by their betters.”
An interesting use of the word ‘better’ for anyone with a moral conscience of any kind.
What I never get when I read these accounts is why anyone would want to survive at all for …this.
Never having traveled to South Africa and professing no profound knowledge of the situation there (beyond what I have read in the media, like everyone else) I have to say I have always been amazed that white settlers would choose to stay, even those with generations of working with their black neighbors. Ditto for Zimbabwe. I guess I should not be too surprised considering there were Jews who continued to fool themselves into thinking they could strike a modus operandi with the Germans up to around Kristallnacht (maybe even beyond, if they tried really hard to convince themselves they’d not be ‘good Germans’ to split). Ditto for whites who stay in neighborhoods where Latinos or Blacks are the overwhelming majority: the attitude among many seems to be ‘they ask for what they get’. We are all victims of history. Whether we are willing victims or simply bet against the odds and get cleaned out is something else.
It seems to be a very mixed bag, SpeedyBB.
I have a friend who’s British South African. She and her sister came to work in Edinburgh years ago, the way young Australians do, but their other sister and her family, and their parents still live in Jo’burg and are perfectly happy.
I also had a South African work colleague here, whose mother also still lives in South Africa. Presumably she could move if she wanted to, but I don’t know for sure.
The people in the tents in Walter’s video look pretty hopeless. I guess even if you come to the UK (for the ones with British ancestors), it’s not going to do you any good if you can’t afford a house as you’d be on the same rental lists as everyone else. And the immigration rules have all been tightened up, as they are being everywhere.
According to your argument Elrond, we are all trapped in these predestined roles, for ever and ever and ever. Let’s apply logic here. So, if whites are the historic & ongoing overseers & masters who will continue striving for that role for ever and ever, then blacks will by necessity always be slaves– for ever and ever and ever. It won’t matter if an Afro-American becomes a CEO and lives like a king. He is still a slave. He will always be subordinate. So, really the idea of progression & ‘progressives’ is a lie, isn’t it? There really are only groups of people struggling for power, and that will go on for ever and ever and ever.
Yes, thus is the Present and Future sacrificed to the Past. Prognosis becomes Destiny and the Race Tyrants and their Toadies rule forever and ever.
As Elrond once drolly put it, Well it happened and we shouldn’t forget the past….!
A major part of the “progressive era”…diversion is a dish best served with contextual blinders on by the “narrative framers of record” still I guess.
As if smelling like a dog were a bad thing!
You’re a cutie, K-Dog!
If I could smell like a dog, it might be a useful sideline. Although I’m not good with avalanches…
uh oh, K-Dog is in heat 🙂
Jim,
Ah, such lovely memories you invoked with this:
His rhetorical skills have not improved since 2016, but his demagogic self-confidence soars as he unwittingly launches himself into a one-man Space Force flying too close to the sun, claiming that he has magically made America great again, mission accomplished!
Reminded me of another clod in the great GOP Pantheon G.W. Bush – idiotically landing on the carrier and declaring “Mission Accomplished” after the grotesque pummeling of Iraq ‘jus like Daddy Did! Of course we now know that was the beginning of a narrative of utter failure unequaled in military history. But thems is just details!
Don’t forget, he got two terms and could seldom even manage to put a complete sentence together, and he was know to act like an idiot in public. I remember some visiting delegation from some African Country presenting a tribal dance and he got up and danced too, and it seemed to me it was in a mocking manner. We know he enjoyed making a mock of things and denigrating people.
Draupnir,
Bush’s “tribal dance” comparatively comes off like a Prince music video compared to the recent Theresa May’s tribal dance, in which I recall reading a comment attached to the video along the lines of, “Darpa have really advanced in their technology.”
You don’t have to be Nostradamus to foresee that when this economy goes sour, Trump will blame his enemies and they will blame him. People will believe and remain loyal to the side they currently support.
Trump risks nothing by “owning” this financial smoke and mirrors economy today and blaming others when it blows up tomorrow. There are always credible excuses and scapegoats to blame. The real reasons covering decades of abuse and bad policy would only make people yawn and their eyes glaze over.
JHK, I think you give people too much credit for clear and consistent thinking.
Trump took office last year.
This ‘economy’ has been declining since when?
The trajectory was established well before Trump took office too. He’s been riding the wave, not creating it.
True, but, likewise, he will not have created the wave when it goes out. Admittedly, he hasn’t helped matters, but the global economy takes many years and mistakes to turn around.
Oh yes. They’ve already got the Deep State scapegoat. If the economy sinks it’s the Deep State trying to make Trump look bad. It’s not just the economy either. Anything that makes Trump look bad is the fault of the Deep State to the true believers. Meanwhile the new Left will blame old white men and their privilege for everything. A hard, ugly economic and social collapse couldn’t happen to amore deserving bunch of childish, hapless people.
Well, time for this privileged old white guy to grind out some hours in an effort to keep my household afloat another month, barely. I’ll take my lunch since my privilege doesn’t provide a free one these days. Never did now that I think about it. I’ll drive my vehicle that last week cost $500 for a rear wheel seal and new brakes, plus the slowly more expensive gas to get to my privileged work site. Gee, this privileged shit isn’t quite what I thought it would be.
Really? I go to work carried on a palanquin borne by 4 people who are “of color” or gender fluid. Didn’t you know all us nasty white guys are entitled to that. Read the manual.
Me too. I sit like Effendi while I am served by countless dusky slaves – some of them of surpassing beauty. Sometimes I think I’m already dead and in paradise. The drinks are as green as bower, frothing white as the clouds. And the handle of my whip is jeweled. Jeweled!
Or am I sitting in a mental institution, waiting for my meds? Beautiful dreams are no substitute for the hard battle ahead to make them real.
All of my slaves are Canadians. They make the best slaves too– because they willingly want to be slaves out of intense self hatred & loathing.
Did Janos just imply he’d dip into that chocolate, if only in the afterlife?
hmuller,
I think he did. There in lies partially the mystery of our Great Whiteness (tongue in cheek). There is a difference between acknowledging that whites can form and maintain high trust societies and complex arrangements while also making reference in more ways that most of us are also primarily color blind to individuals as they show character, grace, and shining beauty.
The contemporary ownership class only wants to destroy the white constructive because we are the last line of defense to full on serfdom/communism. I would love to see high trust minority communities that take care of their own (wink in the direction of Hispanics). Afro-American’s are fine enough people and there are millions of them I would be glad to have as neighbors. Teach in schools though and watch how names are now contorted in spelling and grammar via ebonics (and how angry these students become when mispronouncing their names as the spelling don’t make a lick of sense) or how particular students of said demographic are almost always the loudest / lest self-aware / disruptive / and whiny / skilled at bringing classes to a halt and it is easy to see the apple is falling from a tree that blames YOU for it’s lack of discipline.
When I was a student in the 70s I used to know another student quite well who was half South African and had lived in Pretoria. His mother owned a certain well known diamond mining company.
She actually was routinely carried out from the house to the swimming pool in exactly the manner you describe on some contraption or other.
And he knew a family who made a black servant walk along the road from their property in front of their car in case of landmines. I didn’t ask if they contributed to life insurance for his family. He actually volunteered this information.
My fellow student’s family, in addition to houses in at least three countries, had the obligatory farm in New Zealand in case things turned bad – seems NZ bolt holes were a thing even back then.
Volunteered the information about the road protocol, not the insurance…
I think if I had to have people walk in front of my car when I left my house in case somebody had placed landmines on the road from house, I would be either examining my life to understand if I had been acting so malevolently that people were trying to murder me, moving to that farm in NZ– or probably both.
Green Alba, your memory made me think of what is now happening to the white farmers in South Africa. People of different ideological stripes will draw very different lessons from this tragedy.
To left-wingers, it shows “karma is a bitch” and those white farmers are paying for generations of “black exploitation”.
To the cynic, it.shows that black African politicians can’t resist the urge to misgovern and kill the goose that laid the golden egg,
To right-wingers, it shows that Blacks can never be trusted with the power to rule over whites.
Feel free to offer any lessons I’m neglecting.
I have no lessons for you, hm, except that I don’t think we should generalise about ‘leftwingers’ or ‘rightwingers’. Thinking people of both sides consider separate issues on their own merits and do not have ‘batched’ views on things.
Any murders of white farmers – as of black farmers or anyone else – are tragic and inexcusable. However, from what I have read, the facts are not exactly as the white supremacist sites would have us believe. If there are verifiable and verified figures AND evidence that they all relate to racially motivated crimes, then I’d be interested to see them.
Some time ago, Donald Trump forwarded a tweet from a far-right racist group called Britain First relating to an attack on a person. The tweet said the attacker was (a) a Muslim and (b) a migrant. The perpetrator was in fact neither, but the nature of the crime was naturally considered different when the tweet was taken as truth by the people who read it. And the lie had made its way half way round the world in the usual way before the truth had got its boots on, aided and abetted by your president. Theresa May remonstrated with him and he basically told her to f**k off, but not quite in such unpresidential terms.
Motivations matter, as do facts, and we should not take the word of propagandists without verifiable facts. If the facts are what the propagandists say they are (including the motivations), then they move from being propaganda to being verified facts. I’m not aware that that is yet the case, but I will retain an open mind.
And I have no skin in the game. I have no links to South Africa. So IF it eventually turns out that ‘genocide’ is an appropriate term for whatever is happening (for which I have no verifiable details), then it is utterly to be condemned, no matter in what part of the political matrix one feels oneself situated.
Green Alba, you talk of the facts. We live in a big world where all sorts of facts happen.
I once saw a short film shown in German theaters by the Nazi’s shortly before the outbreak of WW 2. It depicted a very rude, pig faced Polish rape gang going after an innocent German girl. (Nothing too graphic as far as exposed skin, but very violent.)
This could justifiably be called propaganda. But now here’s the odd catch.
Since millions of Poles and Germans lived side by side in villages straddling both sides of the border, something like this probably occurred several times a year. Also pig faced German rape gangs chased down Polish girls. And certainly each nationality raped it’s own. You could even look at the whole thing as a man-woman issue not a German-Polish one.
Point being, people react emotionally to violations “by those other people, the one’s not like us” and always will. For every black American killed by a white cop over 100 are killed by other blacks. But which fact captures their imaginations and leads to riots and “Black Lives Matter” demonstrations, (generously funded by George Soros. So devoted to justice that man is!?)
By the way, GA, I wasn’t arguing against anything you said; just adding my two cents.
“She actually was routinely carried out from the house to the swimming pool in exactly the manner you describe on some contraption or other.
And he knew a family who made a black servant walk along the road from their property in front of their car in case of landmines. I didn’t ask if they contributed to life insurance for his family. He actually volunteered this information.”
GreenAlba,
That is terrible. See, that is wrong, whatever color skin plays whatever role. Now, Janos farther up the comments from here can make his imaginative comments and I can value it for the Arabian Nights quality on an anonymous comment board. Maybe it is only that I can operate in many separate and overlapping worlds of the mind and spirit, but I do not desire a world of such practice.
I want to thank You, PeteAtomic, and others for not scalping me in the Monday comments. I wrote some very derivative comments, even to the point of what was later realized as a rip off of our author’s allegorical cultural / political slayings style.
I may of had the brakes disabled after a couple beers…. and maybe a little pot.
You left a very nice and thoughtful response(s) to my comment on status and it was appreciated. To respond, I was referring to the association of status that can be linked to things like consumer spending statistics of women/men as well as the notion that men will marry down-across-up, but that women disproportionately tend to marry across or up.
I don’t believe that to be a bad thing. It challenges men to be better men and make more of ourselves to the degree that the statistics are true.
Women and Men as they operate alone or together can be a glorious realization and anything worth doing will not be easy. Finishing up with this comment and to take it closer to the root…it seems clear to me that today is a good day to be thankful for the breathe in my lungs and the breathe in yours and the others here. Life is messy and divine – the swamp does not complain because it is submerged in water and crocodiles, nor does the desert weep from it’s dryness.
“Point being, people react emotionally to violations “by those other people, the one’s not like us” and always will. For every black American killed by a white cop over 100 are killed by other blacks. But which fact captures their imaginations and leads to riots and “Black Lives Matter” demonstrations, (generously funded by George Soros. So devoted to justice that man is!?)”
hmuller,
Excellent point. Now can this point be gotten across to 300+ million inhabitants of our United States.
HM, yes that was my impression (that you weren’t arguing!).
There’s nothing there I disagree with (I think). Perhaps we could say there’s deliberate propaganda that nevertheless makes use of – usually selective – facts, deliberate propaganda that’s just made up (or heavily exaggerated), unvarnished facts that nevertheless lend themselves to propaganda where there is ill will or prejudice, and unvarnished facts that are just facts. There are undoubtedly other categories, but that’s enough for me.
I still think that facts exist (despite Kellyanne Conway’s nonsense) independently of anyone’s observation or perception of them – if I didn’t think that, life would be difficult to navigate. Some facts lend themselves to ambiguous interpretation, unfortunately.
But I appreciate a response that’s just adding further thought and not just automatically ‘having a go’ at someone whose views don’t coincide with the ‘site majority’. There are others who don’t seem able to do that, and others again who infer things one hasn’t even said, and may launch into a tirade without properly reading one’s comments.
HM
Although I would say that being killed wrongly by a cop is different from being killed by a civilian – there are extra layers.
GA (and others, as relevant): let us never forget the years of infamy when (mostly left-wing) academics, intellectuals and scholars were brushing off reports of the crimes of the Khmer Rouge, denigrating them as planted CIA propaganda – even when the reports were coming from Cambodians who had escaped the terror.
Few and far between were apologies or amends. The Wilfred Burchetts of the world have a seamless, smooth, case-hardened exterior. Talk about Teflon (R).
@GreenAlba,
>>> Some time ago, Donald Trump forwarded a tweet… And the lie had made its way half way round the world in the usual way before the truth had got its boots on, aided and abetted by your president.
Last week the American press went nuts over ICE arresting a man who was driving his pregnant wife to the hospital. And “the lie had made its way half way round the world in the usual way before the truth had got its boots on, aided and abetted by” the liberal MSM. Turns out the man was an illegal alien fugitive wanted by Mexican authorities for murder. The man was even on the Interpol watch list. Oops. So naturally there were apologies and retractions, yes? Nope. In fact here’s what the NYT—the “record of truth”—published even after they had the facts: ICE Detained Man Who Was Driving His Pregnant Wife to a Hospital. No mention of this man being a fugitive wanted for murder until the fifth paragraph of the story.
Now perhaps you understand why many of us call it fake news.
It isn’t necessary to publish outright lies to be mendacious. You simply have to spin or omit facts. Rather like describing the ill-fated Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 with the headline: Men in Mountains Discovered Practicing Cannibalism. That’s not exactly a truthful characterization of what happened now is it?
Getting back to your recriminations of Trump’s tweet, I would simply say that the tweet wasn’t issued in a vacuum. Trump’s point is that radical Islam is a problem in Europe that can be mitigated by immigration and border security reforms. Is that true or false? Europe has its own fake news liberal media. I can watch some of it here in the USA. Apparently, Muslims are not the problem; white supremacists are—by which they mean anyone who doesn’t agree to more multiculturalism and more Muslims.
It wasn’t a white supremacist that killed and injured hundreds in the 2016 Nice truck attack; it was a Muslim. It wasn’t a white supremacist that plowed his car into a crowd of bicyclists outside Westminster last year that killed 5 and injured 50; it was a Sudanese migrant who had been given ‘asylum’ by Britain. Sudan, incidentally, is one of the countries on Trump’s infamous travel ban list. If I were one of the victims of that attack, I’d rather wish Trump was leading over whoever gave that Sudanese migrant asylum. So while you focus on Trump’s tweet, I’ll focus on the message behind the tweet, which isn’t about some minor one-off attack in the Netherlands.
Exscotticus, All forms of media have a long and well documented history of slanting, editing, and even fabricating what is disseminated to the public. Perhaps some people are confused by the times that the press functioned to reveal the truth, (such as in reporting the news from Vietnam), but even then they forget they they were seriously misled by the same media until the media changed and started revealing the truth instead of covering it up. Some of what is reported is truth, some is lies, period.
In the end, we all believe what we choose to be the truth and as far as what we feel about what others choose to believe, we have two choices. We can accept the fact that others can choose for themselves and good for them, or we can be obnoxious dicks and pontificate about how smart our choices are verses theirs. Most of us prefer the former not the latter which is good for tolerance is a virtue.
SpeedyBB
I hope you are not confusing me with anyone who has ever excused the Khmer Rouge, the Maoists, Stalin or anyone else of that ilk.
When I was 20 I was reading Solzhenitsyn, not Louis Aragon, despite being a French (and Politics) student.
You make an interesting point. Hoover was handed the blame for the Depression, as he was at the helm when that ship went down. I’ve been thinking that Trump will get the blame this time around (if the decline begins in the next two years), but now I’m not so sure.
Richard Heinberg’s book Peak Everything came out in 2011. We may be there or beyond as far as oil and other natural resources are concerned. However, we may still be climbing the slopes on the peak stupid, peak buffoonery and peak hubris curves. If those attributes actually have a peak. It seems the only rational adults to be found these days are in the doomer/declinist realms.
“However, we may still be climbing the slopes on the peak stupid, peak buffoonery and peak hubris curves. If those attributes actually have a peak.”
LOL I don’t think human beings will ever peak out on stupidity or hubris
Mencken: No one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American People.
Einstein: Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.
This city has a vision for mass transit that doesn’t involve city buses
Arlington, Texas, is developing a transit system based on ride-hailing shuttles.
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/08/this-city-has-a-vision-for-mass-transit-that-doesnt-involve-city-buses/
“Arlington, Texas, has the dubious distinction of being the largest American city without a conventional bus system. Sandwiched between Dallas and Fort Worth, the town of nearly 400,000 people launched a single bus line called the MAX in 2013—but even that got shut down last year.
“But just as some developing countries have leapfrogged past landline telephones in favor of cellular technology, Arlington is trying to turn its status as a mass-transit laggard into an advantage by embracing cutting-edge transportation technologies.
“Last week, the city announced a new partnership with the self-driving car startup Drive.ai. Starting in October, free Drive.ai shuttles will circulate on public streets in Arlington’s Entertainment District, past a Six Flags amusement park and the stadiums where the Dallas Cowboys and Texas Rangers play.
“At the same time, Arlington is sponsoring a human-driven on-demand service operated by Via, a competitor to Uber and Lyft that focuses on shared rides. Residents in a portion of Arlington can use an app to take $3 rides anywhere in the service area, which includes Arlington’s major stadiums and Six Flags, as well as the University of Texas at Arlington, city hall, and at least three high schools.
“Together, these two projects point toward a radically different vision for public transportation in the 21st century. Rather than having full-size city buses with fixed routes and schedules, Via’s service uses six-passenger Mercedes vans to offer on-demand, nearly door-to-door service. Right now, Via’s service is heavily subsidized. But self-driving technology could help to bring down these costs, making fares of $3 per ride—or even less—economically viable.”
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Good luck, Arlington. Let us all know how that works out.
The term I hear nadied about is ‘The Sharing Economy’—
Uber, rent a bike, electric scooters, Limes and Birds.
Don’t know if you are being sarcastic or sincere with the last statement, but the question is what do they have to lose?
Arlington puts in a relatively low cost infrastructure to support this trial. If it doesn’t work out they have some assets to sell off and call it a day.
On the other hand, if it works out they have solved a very expensive problem on the cheap, and perhaps superior operation.
Have to appreciate their innovative thinking and willingness to try.
ANYONE and EVERYONE who was hired by Reinhold Richard “Reince” Priebus should be fired.
It’s very clear that the investigators investigating the investigators should be investigated. Comey Rosenstein Mueller Sessions Huber, these are all dirty dirty cops. In my opinion, if justice was served, they would all be facing the DEATH PENALTY for TREASON.
I commend President Trump for his infinite magnanimity and infinite patience with these corrupt scum.
Well said.
brh
You commend that ignorant orange gasbag for his infinite magnanimity.
Priceless. Jim – you need a Hall of Fame here…
He is a Gas Giant just like Jupiter. A mighty Planet indeed. In contrast, you are a frozen asteroid traveling away from the Sun – forever.
Interesting analogy. Jupiter is a discharged sun/planet while an asteroid is a shattered piece of a planetary collision. In other words, Georges1202 is a broken aimless dead stone waiting to crash and burn at the slightest gravitational pull, while Trump is a has been Dwarf Brown Sun living a second life as a giant Planet.
Are you counting Jupiter out? It may yet become a Sun! And Trump may yet declare Martial Law and save America from the Illuminati.
Can you revive a dead light-bulb, I suppose you could. But this is where god comes in. The electric current discharge required would plasma annihilate the Grand Canyon anew:
http://www.everythingselectric.com/steinbacher-1/
I wouldn’t want to be standing nearby 🙂
“When I was a kid, we had 9 planets”. Man, those were the good old days.
Janos
Your thoughts?
6) There are ’regeneration rituals’ where an aging Satanist stands in the center of a circle of babies or young children.
As they are sacrificed the ritual allows the Satanist to absorb their life force and regenerate his or her body.
The world’s most famous Satanist, Alister Crowley, advocated human sacrifice and admitted to sacrificing children.
He performed just such a sacrifice 150 times every year between 1912 and 1928 and sacrificed almost 2,500 young boys in that period alone. Satanism at its core is about the manipulation and theft of another person’s energy and consciousness.
[where did he get that many children from? I mean, he wasnt Jimmy Savile].
Off-topic, unhelpful, hysterical and plain ol’ diversionary.
As to this: “As they are sacrificed the ritual allows the Satanist to absorb their life force and regenerate his or her body.”
Didn’t work, did it? So what’s your fucking pointless point? Pitiful crankery of the crudest sort.
Wipe that drool off your keyboard and continue searching for your savior (that you will regret once you’ve found it) and stay away from sites that wish to track and discuss the dissolution of nations via political, societal and corporate foolishness and the wasting of resources thereby.
Hi Pete. So what do you think about New York Time’s latest? Kind of vindicates me, don’t you think? Care to offer a mea culpa for all the times you have lambasted me and others who said America’s Elite are now vehemently anti-White? Perhaps even an apology?
What about the Beastles [oops typo I wont correct] hero?
His image was on Sarge ant Peppers cover.
Where the Beatles, Satanists? John was an obnoxious Liberal Creep of course. But George was a spiritual seeker.
Why was it on the cover? Because Rock and Roll is hedonism and likes, Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law – even though Crowley took pains to explain it was at the level of the soul and not self indulgence. And yes, self indulgence can lead to Satanism and has with some in Rock and Entertainment.
And Crowley didn’t always live up his credo as explained by him by any means. He was often clear intellectually, but his life and example are another story altogether.
One could argue that the Dark Force was influencing the Beatles in their music and lyrics. But that’s another issue. To call someone a Satanist implies conscious consent on their part. There is no evidence of that to my knowledge.
Another foray into the cretinosphere to come back with yet more ‘Janos, what do you think of this?’ Malthussian fuckwittery.
https://ac2012.com/2011/12/20/aleister-crowley-myths-busted/
Read no. 4, poster child for gullibility that you are.
“In his book, Magick, Aleister Crowley referred to masturbation jokingly and dysphemistically as child sacrifice. See our post, Guide to the Aleister Crowley 2012 Campaign Ad, for more details.
“According to Crowley’s diaries, he performed this “sacrifice” about 150 times per year from 1912-1928. That is a moderate amount of masturbation, but it would be an impossible number of murders which would make Aleister Crowley dozens of times more murderous than the infamous Countess Elizabeth Báthory.”
150 wanks, Malthuss. How many ‘children’ do you kill in a year?
Maybe you should stop standing under those er… ‘chemtrails’.
I wouldn’t waste even more space replying to your nonsense, except in the forlorn hope that one day the penny will drop. Hope springs eternal, although in your case hope should probably just roll its eyes and turn its face to the wall.
Really now, GA, a lady wouldn’t ask Malthus about his wanking habits!
I hope she may do so merely rhetorically, hm, and for mildly comic effect. I enjoy a ‘larf’ even if it’s only internal. And I think the ‘topic’ is so ludicrous as to invite a bit of excess.
My day-to-day language offline is reasonably bland, as are my topics of conversation, though it’s definitely been affected by living with an Irish person. Irish English can be colourful, although I would not wish to tarnish the reputation of an entire nation!
You must learn the times and the hours. Monday morning at the bus stop is no time to hit on a girl or to discuss things like this (and yes, I know it’s not Monday morning but it is Friday morning). And the moon is waning – a period of declining energy.
But to answer: I never heard of such a thing, but who knows? The Bible says King David slept with young women when old just to get their “warmth” with no sex involved. I wouldn’t put anything past them at this point.
Crowley wasn’t a Satanist to my knowledge. What you are referring to is code for ejaculation. The answer to the greeting, “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law” is “Love is the Law, Love under Will”. That doesn’t fit with killing the innocent. He hated abortion for example. I admit I may be wrong – maybe he had a secret life he didn’t talk about. But he did talk about Black Magicians and was clear he wasn’t one of them. I wish I could say the same for some of his followers….
While the mainstream news insisted that Pizzagate was fake [Coberts sisters money came from Podesta], this really did happen.
Mainstream, crickets,
NORWAY
150 Terabytes! Norway Busts Largest Dark Web, Child Porn Networks in History — US, UK Media Ignore Story. Posted by Madeline | Dec 11, 2016 |
Satanic child sex in hig high places:
(…) the material shows penetration of toddlers, children being tied, children who have sex with animals and children who have sex with other children. One of the accused men had a pregnant girlfriend and planned with another to commit offenses against the child when it was born, police said. Some of the accused performed abuses directly online, including atrocities against their own children (…)
The English speaking media at both sides of the pool ignore the story in choir.
(…) So while the U.S. media busied itself with its campaign of denial, lies and cover ups involving Pizzagate and “fake news,” this huge child sex abuse story broke in Norway. The story did appear on (strangely enough, sam h.) Associated Press’ wire, but did anyone run it ? (…)
(…) Also note the horrifically sadistic nature of the material seized. And note that police are investigating the reach as worldwide, which means it involves a massive scale of evil filth. But nobody in the criminally compliant mainstream media thinks its newsworthy (…)
http://galacticconnection.com/150-terabytes-norway-busts-largest-dark-web-child-porn-networks-in-history-us-uk-media-ignore-
Malthus is young even though old. If only all people could stay young in their hearts. He can see what other cannot, but yes, sometimes blurts out the Emperor has no clothes right in front of the guards.
Come on what, boy?
I am asking Janos for his considerable insight.
See my post about Norway, then come on.
“Come on what, boy?”
Malthuss,
Please do not hold my youth and inexperience against me.
The Internet promotes/enables the worst in humanity. Any idea, however perverse…any pathology can be affirmed and amplified on the Internet by like-minded individuals (however few). I expect you truly believe the dogma regarding satanic rituals and widespread and popular pederasty amongst the washed and perfumed few. The accounts you reference are doing you no favors. It will breed insanity.
Norway…(sigh)…Just another criminal act. Snuff-films, bestiality, cannibalism…all isolated criminal acts, never mainstream nor sanctioned by society.
But transgenderism now is. And Gays perform sex acts on the street of America in front of children during their parades. They are going to move heaven and earth to get pedophilia normalized. Heave and earth.
Visitors to old Polynesia saw low caste individuals unceremoniously clubbed to death and put on the grill. If the Elite want it – and some do apparently – they may well move in this direction ever so gradually.
“And Gays perform sex acts on the street of America in front of children during their parades. ”
Here they would be arrested whether there were children there or not – what are your law enforcers doing or are sex acts in public legal over your way?
Or are you talking about, you know, kissing?
“They are going to move heaven and earth to get pedophilia normalized.”
Evidence?
Get some images of Folsom St Fair in San Francisco. And they’re giving little kids to Gay couples. To Drag Queens to be read to. To Lesbian couples who then try to turn little boys into girls. How COULD a boy grow up normal in such an environment, one with no male role model? Or don’t you think that’s important?
“Get some images of Folsom St Fair’
http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/index.php
Please delete, Mr. Kunstler, if you find inappropriate.
Zombietime General
http://www.zombietime.com/
Janos
I haven’t looked at Epicur’s image because, from the discussion around it, it sounds like something I don’t want on my computer, which, if nothing else, I may need to take to a repair shop some day and I am too easily embarrassed, as my daughter keeps telling me…
So, while Walter in his self-righteousness assumes his will be the only response, he is unfortunately too presumptuous to consider there might be other reasons why one can’t respond to the actual image(s). Walter likes to caricature people he’s taken a scunner to, as we say up here, and endlessly demonstrate his superiority to them. Humblebrags an’ all. When I say them, I guess I mean me. So be it. This site has made me a little tougher than the shrinking violet nature made me. However, there are things I just don’t want to see and other links on here I don’t click on for similar reasons.
Getting back to your suggestion, I did google Folsom Street Fair nevertheless and came across a few images that I found repulsive, although I’m guessing they’re very tame compared to whatever Epicur posted. Did I say shrinking violet? I can also be a bit of a prude, which actual observant people may even have picked up. Insecurities, I suppose…
If you think that just because people accept homosexuality as a normally occurring biological reality – which also exists in other species – they are necessarily attracted to this sort of thing in a public street, you are some mixture of arrogant, presumptuous, naive and ignorant. And that goes for any other posters whose thinking is equally blinkered. I suspect there are multitudes of gay men who find this equally repellent and are not part of ‘the scene’. They’re the ones I tend to know.
I do not like egregious public displays of overt ‘kinky’ sexuality, whatever their position on the gender matrix (on which, BTW, I am in no way knowledgeable, despite having worked on one book that gave me a lot of insight into current very detailed surgical options).
And I do not admire people who make assumptions about swaths of people, including me, on the basis of lazy, self-congratulatory thinking.
What people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms, with consenting adults, on the other hand, is none of my business and I have not the slightest desire to think about it, in contrast to the vast numbers of heterosexual men (including, inevitably many readers of this blog) who go on to porn sites to do exactly that. Large numbers of them (I’ve seen the stats) are – hypocritically – very fond of a bit of girl-on-girl when their wife is out, even if they’re ‘anti-gay’. There’s something going on there that’s not entirely about morality.
Here’s a picture from Gay Pride Glasgow:
https://www.visitscotland.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Glasgow-PRide.jpg
I think you can see we don’t do things in quite the same way.
I daresay there would be slightly more risqué images if you were to go to London, for instance, but I doubt it could compete with what’s on offer over your way. America is always bigger, ‘better’ and more extreme. And we have ‘public decency’ laws, which I suppose is a bit anti-first amendment for you, although I have no idea how or if they are applied to such demonstrations.
I’ll deal with your other question shortly. But I hope I’ve made myself clear. I wouldn’t take a child within a mile of this kind of thing. And I don’t imagine Nicola Sturgeon (not that I’m a fan) had to look at anything like this when she headed the Gay Pride Glasgow march this year (she’s married to a man, just to be clear).
I expect the Notting Hill Carnival would be more than enough for me and it’s not even gay:
https://repeatingislands.com/2013/08/16/interactive-graphic-shows-history-of-notting-hill-carnival/
I’m guessing my husband could get quite immersed in it if I wasn’t there, but he’s a hermit so likely wouldn’t get the opportunity.
Apologies to other readers for the length of this post but I’m getting entirely fed up with the caricaturing of and lazy assumptions around the views of anyone who isn’t a Trump-loving ‘conservative’ rightwinger. Some of us centre lefties (and on that point, benr, your ass is of no interest to me) can be quite conservative on a whole lot of issues.
I’ll deal with your other question later, Janos. Enough is enough for now.
Janos,
Envelopes will always be pushed. I expect that within the year, one will be able to find the “Baby Jesus Butt Plug” at WallyWorld, made in China, and for a fraction of the original’s price. Losing our economic base and beggaring our population has shown some practical benefits….
So in other words, you’re wrong and you should have known you were wrong because people DO bring their children to this kind of thing. If only you learned to scan you memory banks more effectively so you could know what you know before you opined. But of course, that would mean wanting to be more accurate and less politically correct; which would mean not being part of the “Party” and “Tribe” and living on a deeper level. And you just don’t value Truth enough to do that.
Janos, if you continue to do this ‘in other words’ thing, where you ignore what I’ve said and just say what you want it to mean, or extrapolate it into what you want it to mean, dialogue with you is pointless. It’s already not the most useful experience in the world.
*IF (and so far it’s still ‘IF’ as far as I can see) some people take their children to events where people are behaving in what I personally find a lewd and repellent way (repellent to me, that is – and as you lot keep pointing out, my PC snowflakiness in the matter shouldn’t be an arbiter of other people’s behaviour) that does not vindicate your homophobia. All I’m agreeing with is that I don’t like THIS.
The gay people that I know do not behave like this and they neither need nor want your approval. They would most certainly not approve of you and they’d be justified in their judgement, in my humble view. If THIS did not remotely exist, you would still be homophobic.
*I’ve just googled more photos of your fair and I’ve yet to see any children. Just doesn’t look like a family day out to me.
And I’ll never be part of your tribe or any other.
Epicur, I would say that what you have posted there is foul and disgusting, but being from New Jersey (so close to NYC) I am afraid that it is all too commonplace. Of the 4,100 souls in my Township, pretty much all of them travel to the Rotten Apple on a regular basis, if not for work then certainly for “entertainment”. Most of those that I have talked to about it, and it is many indeed in my position, have also attended events of the sort that you have documented. My guess is that mine will be the only response, but there may be a flurry of deniers because there always are. My two cents on the matter is that from what I have been told by more people than I can count, your account is accurate. The deniers will call CGI or Photoshopped, or isolated incident, but they always do don’t they? Yes this kinds of feral displays do not occur in front of Rockefeller Center, but the side streets are awash with such activities.
What I have always had a difficult time understanding is that from all accounts many of these “celebrations” degrade from what they may have been intended to be and morph into Penis Worship Festivals. With giant penis displays and penis cannon launching toys and candy into the crowds of families, I do not get the point. I did not think that penis’ were that special nor worthy of the amount of time that so many spend on their knees in worship of. I suppose to each his own, but how this entire movement has achieved such universal public acceptance staggers my mind. Perhaps I have gotten too old to live.
Or how about the Women walking around as giant Vaginas during the Women’s march? A small minority I admit. But the Pussy Hats? Similar little red hats were in vogue before the French Revolution. This is no coincidence, though they’re pink this time.
http://www.languedoc-france.info/06141204_libertycap.htm
Going back to Mithras.
MAGA hats are red too.
Knitting comes back into fashion too from time to time – beware les tricoteuses.
Do you knit? Then you must wear a pussy hat. If k, then p. If not, why not? The connection is au natural.
Malthus, Clearly, Aleister Crowley didn’t sacrifice 2,500 young boys, but I would not rule out a few.
Here’s an interesting factoid on Crowley.
In 1924 Barbara Bush’s mother Pauline Pierce was a bored housewife with 2 kids who traveled to France alone for an extended stay with old friends. Another house guest was Aleister Crowley who was intensely into sexual magick practices at the time. Eight months after Pauline’s return to America she gave birth to Barbara on June 08, 1925.
I’m not saying anything is certain, but possibilities exist. Just compare pictures of father and daughter.
“He performed just such a sacrifice 150 times every year between 1912 and 1928 and sacrificed almost 2,500 young boys in that period alone. Satanism at its core is about the manipulation and theft of another person’s energy and consciousness.”
Which one of the biographies was this included? I have not read any of them.
There has to be a calypso song somewhere at sometime with a great instrumental and verse, “What you do, comes back to you.”
Context is important. Ever been to a Cheeseburger in Paradise and found it macabre that they would broadcast that song every five minutes? Imagine working in such conditions.
What fascinates me in the myth of Crowley was his extremes of fitness to degradation, to fitness again; the extremes he felt the need to, well,..conquer, is the word. He practiced bad juju..but he was very good at it or at least in publishing it.
What sort of thing am I admitting? Is that NYT’s opinion article validated in it’s selective claims to history? Am I a conquer needing to be pegged down now in my admittance to an abstract of conquer in this case? HIstory being almost entirely a subjective practice.
Our collected civilization tally on participants is very low to mass weight in positive visions of future usage of earth space, language structure, word usage, and the oral and written culture to get us there.
There are of course more brilliant minds now than ever in time, but social and ecological responsibility does not necessary work in a mid-manager style in a ever atomizing world. This is much the impetus for racial and stylistic associations now. This is usually the theme when the majority are illiterate and needing something to fall back on. Too many years of sports jerseys and corporate logos are as much to blame for the sink hole that was the human mind as peak oil, globalization, media consolidation, drug wars, lobbying, shredding the Bill of Rights, or pick your poison.
All theater, all bogus distractions to prevent any serious probing into the issue of the collapsing economy. The stirring up of hatred of the opposing political camps will ensure that when commerce suddenly stops, the killing will immediately commence. When it begins it will not end until most of the people are dead and the remnant impotent to resist mop up operations.
Hopefully, the organizers of this operation will have miscalculated, and will join their intended victims in the bloodiest and most violent single event in modern history. Do not hope for a limited confrontation that preserves the status quo; a thoroughly wild conflagration is the only hope for western civilization, if any hope remains.
What i find fascinating is there is a War against White People in America , and it is being Waged by White People against White People.
But it is all designed to distract White People from the fact their standard of living is going down every year. Just wait until the Bottom Drops Out.
Do you think it will be a credit collapse? Just wait until the banks do a ‘bail-in’ – the shit will definitely hit the fan.
Fun times await. Does anyone have enough popcorn on hand?
I see a slow motion effect that begins with the 10,00 mile imported food because the long distance routes break down first. This may be followed in quick order by the coast to coast 3000 mile stuff. This will hurt city folk first but outside dwellers will manage locally. City chaos will frighten outsiders and if groups leave the cities to forage the countryside, all hell breaks loose. The cities will be totally vulnerable to outside actions of the food chain.
“I see a slow motion effect that begins with the 10,00(0) mile imported food because the long distance routes break down first. This may be followed in quick order by the coast to coast 3000 mile stuff. ”
I have made this exact point about the foolishness of Brexit and not a single person seems to be impressed by it. So we’re apparently going to be importing far more food from the US and even further afield – when France is 22 miles away from us – because in some people’s heads that miraculously makes sense for the foreseeable future. They’re preparing to build a new runway at Heathrow as we speak, to bring us those 5,000-mile lettuces and bring back ‘Global Britain’.
And that’s before you factor in the odd volcanic eruption, like the recent one in Iceland that grounded planes for weeks.
Too much magic indeed. I often wonder what preparations the UK has actually made for a food emergency. Currently they’re stockpiling medicines for a no-deal crash out of the EU. For now they say we *shouldn’t* run out of food. Why do I not look at our ‘leaders’ and feel entirely confident?
At times like this you discover interesting facts such as there being no modern insulin made in the UK, only the piggy stuff, which doesn’t work with modern insulin pumps (the modern stuff comes from the Netherlands – hey ho…). And that’s one interesting fact out of thousands. Fun awaits.
So we’re apparently going to be importing far more food from the US and even further afield So we’re apparently going to be importing far more food from the US and even further afield ..
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Nonsense. You’ll be growing your own organic food. You will learn to be self-sufficient like your great ancestors have been. You will learn to be independent and ingenious and have pride in this independence and ingenuity, instead of being a dumb beast and a fascist slave to the Bank of England and the Vatican.
That’s an interesting & valid point there, Mrs. GreenAlba.
akmofo is right there too, I think. Perhaps the demand will spur a strong response from domestic UK food producers (?) That’d be a good response.
Fascist welfare:
Tucker Slams ‘Activist Corporate America’: ‘There’s Nothing Free About This Market’
— https://youtu.be/s4o65yNaRIE
Nice idea, akmofo, but the UK only produces just over half of its food domestically. Even during the war, with people growing food in parks, gardens, allotments and every spare space they could find (and there’s a lot less now) the country could only feed itself with the help of the Merchant Navy dodging German battleships.
I’d grant you people should be able to manage on less food than they currently eat, since many eat too much anyway, but I haven’t forgotten my parents’ stories of rationing and one fresh egg a week plus disgusting powdered egg. In some ways they were actually healthier, though, than people are now, and had better teeth, because there was practically no sugar, but they still couldn’t manage without imports from ‘the colonies’ etc. And they relied on vegetables at the expense of meat and poultry.
I like the idea of the intensive market-gardening projects someone linked to a while ago (Dr Tom?) in the Netherlands. That sort of thing should be feasible here. We can’t aspire to what Israel can do, though, because we just don’t have the sun. And with climate change, we’re already seeing harvests being ruined because of either droughts or floods.
I remember when I used to read permaculture news years ago by an Australian advocate, they got three crops a year – we get one that we have to hope won’t be ruined.
http://www.countryfile.com/article/can-uk-feed-itself
https://www.foodsecurity.ac.uk/challenge/uk-threat/
So, I guess up here we’ll live on porridge and seasonal soft fruit and our southern neighbours on potatoes, in which we (the UK) are self-sufficient, I believe. So fingers crossed no potato blight – that would be too ironic, given our colonial history. And hopefully oats are resilient 🙂 .
“Perhaps the demand will spur a strong response from domestic UK food producers (?) ”
It could go either way, Pete A. Domestic production could increase in some sectors – others could completely go under with cheap imports from countries with lower husbandry standards than the EU. A lot of farmers are very, very worried. Even the ones who voted Leave. Fishermen likewise, who were promised unicorns (with gills, presumably).
Mrs Green, where there is a will there is a way.
You might not have plenty of sun, but you have plenty of land. You have plenty of water. You have plenty of energy.
You can create massive green house farms that utilize UV lamps for photosynthesis. If Canukistanis in their home basements can profitably grow the Sacred Plant for the export market, Scotland can certainly organize to grow food for local consumption.
Again, it’s all a question of character and motivation. Do you have it, and if not, why not?!
VisualPolitik: How is ETHIOPIA Escaping POVERTY
— https://youtu.be/8Xcaw7QDI64
akmofo
I agree that more can be done. However, we don’t have ‘plenty of land’ – we’re a tiny island. And it’s not a case of character and motivation at this stage – most people have no clue about peak resources to any great extent. In the short term, there will be more imports from countries who sell cheaper than the EU – that’s one of the aims of the leading Brexiters – low standards, low regulations, race to the bottom. They don’t give a stuff about British farmers, only about profits for their own kind.
John Redwood MP, arch-Brexiter, advised his investors to invest in the EU and not in the UK. Jacob Rees-Mogg MP, arch-arch-Brexiter, has just seen his own investment business open a fund in Dublin. These people will not be helping British agriculture – they will be helping themselves.
And a whole lot of Scottish land is not remotely suitable for agriculture – if you doubt that, take a walk over the Rannoch Moor – but bring good boots for the bog!
Looks a lot like the Golan Heights and the Hula Valley. These are the places and the projects where nationalism is born:
— https://youtu.be/3kbrjbIOkDY
Thanks, akmofo. I’m always interested in your links to development projects of various kinds, including the impressive landfill-to-park makeover you linked to a while ago. Also to anything that involves inspired and sparing use of resources.
I’m not sure we want to domesticate all our beautiful wild spaces, though – they’re a big part of what makes Scotland what it is. In fact ‘re-wilding’ is currently a thing.
https://www.rewildingbritain.org.uk/rewilding/rewilding-projects/
Beauty matters as well as oats and potatoes 🙂 .
I don’t know, Mrs Green, I think we can do better than the current deathly loneliness and desolation of places like Rannoch Moor. Land should be teeming with fauna and life. Some farms and orchards and condo towers would not hurt either. I know many northerners have a sentimentality for empty lonely places, but I don’t share this sentiment. It’s good to be in busy places. It’s good for our soul. It keeps it young and alive and interested in life and living.
?Postcard from Sheinkin Street
— https://youtu.be/O5mSfIuhVkQ
?Street Workout:
— https://youtu.be/lcj_FD8NX4A??
That’s not a street, akmofo. THIS is a street workout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJM5qjbjOdc
And they tell me European culture is dying 🙂 .
“It’s good to be in busy places. It’s good for our soul. ”
When I used to read CS Lewis, I recall him saying he thought, when he was a student, that ‘modern life’ contrived to make it impossible for young people to find peace and quiet just to think and talk about things that really matter. And that was early last century!
I think that’s one of our problems. I know people not even young who can’t walk from A to B, even in a town, without being plugged into something that separates them from their environment.
One of the things I noticed when I moved nearer the town centre (-ish) and dispensed with a car, was that I was in contact with my environment, warts and all, which I consider a good thing.
But I also like to get away to peace and quiet, which is why I’ve stayed 8 times in the house behind this little guy’s head:
https://odis.homeaway.com/odis/listing/daf0fb64-d9d8-4d0c-aba5-5d77bfea8cc0.c10.jpg
So yes, I guess our northern souls need something different to feed us.
Beautiful stuff, Mrs Green. All that’s missing is a little Mediterranean tan 🙂
In Manchester they often have to make their own sunshine, as you saw. But we had a good summer this year, heatwaves an’ all. If they’re tanned now, they’ll be wrinkly by 50. I am living proof of the value of a moderate climate and a collection of fab straw hats 🙂 .
A little Syrian kid. It figures.
Who’s a little Syrian kid?
It’s Zorba’s Dance, Janos – I hope you’re not referring to the Greek guy providing the music.
Hmmm. Let’s think about this. I wonder how many of us have ever walked 20 miles (32 Km)? What about 50 miles (80 Km)? I remember walking 50 miles over two days when I was 15 and in the Boy Scouts. In the best shape of my life, with food and water and a place to stay at the mid-point that I didn’t have to carry, it was difficult. The sores on my feet took a couple of weeks to heal. I walked 20 miles at age 50 with my son to help him with his BSA hiking merit badge, and I was extremely tired by the end of that trip!
I currently live in a rural town that’s 300 miles (480 Km) from Vancouver. If the Vancouverites decide they want to walk to where I am (probably with little warning and no proper equipment), how many of them do you think will make it? Sadly, probably most of them will die along the way.
I left the big city suburbs 3 years ago, and would advise most of you to do the same–because in event of war, quakes or other catastrophe, likely you too would not make it.
Yes, I think it will have to be a credit collapse. And, yes, a bail-in could happen in the name of ‘saving the system’.
Well said teddyboy, well said indeed. If the have-nots are correct and the Fat Guys at the top are all white, that would not stop those Fat Guys at the top from using the idea to turn the have-nots against their neighbors and eliminate the competition for them. The Fat Guys at the top are well protected by armed hoards and impenetrable defenses and the have-nots are far too stupid and lazy to go there anyway. Yes whitey would be happy to use warfare against whites to secure their own positions at the top of the shitpile. Once the competition is eliminated, America can be reduced to a Middle Eastern or African nation where the rulers are never challenged and the peasants only fight with one another.
Yes our standards of living are all dropping and distracting the herd from this fact is a necessity in order to compel us all to keep working harder and harder to maintain what lifestyles we can continue to have. Once all hope is lost, the real problems start. They will milk it all as long as possible and then stand back and what the shit hit the fan.
Yes, ruthless Class Warfare, but the Marxists have signed onto it 100%, betraying their own so called philosophy. They clearly are going for the Latin American/Brazilian model where a small light skinned Elite rule over vast swathes of impoverished dark skinned masses. A White Middle Class gets in the way of that – and might even be a threat. Thus the upper middle class is taxed the heaviest as they are the greatest threat.
Yes Janos, a white middle and upper middle class is ALWAYS a threat to tyranny, just ask King George. So if you are at the top of the shit pile and you want to stay there, remember:
“You know what they say in Sicily: If you want to kill a dog, you don’t cut off the tail, you cut off the head. The dog will keep biting you if you only cut off its tail.”
After all, is the tail not wagging the dog these days? If you agree that this is true, is it not time to deal with the worthless dog so that the witless tail stops wagging it?
Well Mr. Jim, I think the base forces which all of the power hungry, regardless of political stripes are attempting to invoke, remind me of Dr. Frankenstein’s monster. Or maybe some creation from the Island of Dr. Moreau. Our national pollical system is being run by mad scientists. Even Bernie Sanders, who was seen in the 2016 run as an independent voice, has given up his “revolution”. If you’ve seen his recent interviews, fuck they are sad. The guy sounds completely defeated. I don’t know if Nancy Pelosi put on her belly dancing outfit and svengalied the poor guy, or what. It’s like somebody got to Bernie and turned him into another brick of establishment DC.
Once you bow down to a bully you spend the rest of your life as a beaten down, subjugated loser. Bernie did not fight the Queen of Evil, not that I blame him for it is certain death, but once he did he lost any spirit that he once may have had because She absorbed it for her own.
Yes, did you see his face when he cast his vote for her at the convention? He looked like a man in hell. He knew it was a moment of truth, even if his gleeful, idiot wife did not. And he took the payoffs that stemmed from his betrayal of all that he ever was.
Thank you Jim for bringing the NYT’s whitey hate mail to my attention for I never would have even considered looking to that, or any other worthless rag for anything in the first place. Yet it is good to know that these demonic assholes are promoting the Whitey Must Die agenda. It is good to know when you are being hunted. I am certain that the white men they are talking about dragging out and lynching are not the George Soros’, the Mark Zuckerbergs’, or the Bill Gates’, but simply the easiest target, the white guy on the street.
When you think about this, it might go a long way to explain why they either picked or allowed Donald Trump to become president. Put an obnoxious white guy into the office to really piss the have-nots off and turn them against whitey. Barry the Divider laid the groundwork with his “kill the cops” and “you did not earn that” propaganda, and made it a point to show the simple minded that violence was the best way to “attack” the problem.
Maybe they are turning up the pressure on whitey in the hope that whitey will crack , lose it and turn on everybody allowing the government to step in and finish the job. Or they could go ahead with disarmament to make whitey an easier target after the few that would resist are killed off. Whatever the plan, it is demonic to be sure and the simple minded appear to be embracing it in large numbers. If they intend to go through with something of this sort they will have starve the herd first though because there has never been a case in history where 400 pound welfare recipients ever got off their dead asses and revolted nor could they if they wanted to. Keep you eyes peeled for an interruption in the food supply chain. If that ever happen then you will know what is just around the block.
Walter,
I think you’ve got the gist of the stratagem: Unruly populace “forces” a governmental crackdown with police-state resources (pre-placed for just such an occasion, of course).
Once at this denouement however, there will be no turning back and the decline will continue (or accelerate) regardless of the weight of the boot-heel applied.
The instinctive government reaction to internal crises is to clamp down on the population, up to & including martial law. If the baleful predictions come true, we run the risk of becoming a police state with unknown consequences for the citizens.
“The Golden Gloating Golem of Greatness presided over the spectacle in full gloatissimo mode, playing his audience of economic losers like a Hammond B-3 organ at a roller rink. His performance was oddly like the sort of rant that Uber drivers must suffer through with a fare who has been tweaking cocaine for three days en route to a funeral or a foreclosure.”
And…
“Radiating anger and, at times, actual malice, Mr. Trump presented exactly the lack of couth that drives his hypothetically more refined “blue” enemies up a tree. His rhetorical skills have not improved since 2016, but his demagogic self-confidence soars as he unwittingly launches himself into a one-man Space Force flying too close to the sun, claiming that he has magically made America great again, mission accomplished! Even the live audience of Hoosier clods appeared strangely restive and unconvinced after an hour of this bellowing, and one got a sense of Mr. Trump slip-sliding towards Hubrisville like some ass-clown pol in a Coen Brothers’ movie about to be run out of the grange hall on a rail.”
More “instant” classics. Nobody does it like J.H. Kunstler — nobody.
I particularly liked Hubrisville.
There is a bar near Mariner Stadium in Seattle on 1st Ave S called Hooverville. It sits in the Sodo Area where in the thirties, at the time of the great depression, there was a tent city. I pass this place going to and from work. Nobody but nobody in the bar is making less than $75 K a year unless they work there and don’t ghet tips. The Bar is surrounded by high end home furnishing stores and such, there is nothing about 1st ave South along its entire length which suggests poverty except for a sole homeless tent past where 1st Ave crosses over rail lines.
For tent cities you have to go to 4th Ave S and beyond over by the freeway. Poverty has been encouraged to be away from our tourist areas.
From now on that bar, to me is Hubrisville.
People in Washington state say the Left has ruined the place, encouraged heroin addicts, gutted business and push Agenda 2030 making traffic bad [ie dont own a car and live near work, if you can get work].
I ‘m now wowed by Pankrat Mishra either. Perhaps he can go to India and research the attitudes of his ancestors in the 1800’s and link their shortcomings as being responsible for our present predicaments too. It is only fair, or perhaps his need for the entire planet to experience the karmatic tough love can be revealed as bullshit and he as a player.
To be a fair social justice warrior it is incumbent on the SJW to show that all races are assholes and not just white ones. But that is not being done. Whites are being made the scapegoats for everything as if to be brown is to walk as one with the creator. ‘He walks with me he talks with me’, and all that shit.
Which makes me ask the question what is the purpose of Mishra’s article? The answer which comes to this dog’s mind is that race tensions will justify the new police state. People are getting tired of the old terrorist tune. The lack of enthusiasm over the Boston FF demonstrated a need for a new fresh enemy to hate and that was a few years ago. A new police state will be justified on the basis of induced racial tensions, terrorism is losing the punch. Racial tensions fueled by, and as a brutal adaptation to, an emerging age of scarcity. The means justify the end, and the end justifies the means.
If you look here you will see that Mishra sort of resembles our friend scratch. He wrote a book. Check this out:
Age of Anger is the tale of history’s ‘winners’ and their illusions, looking at how people have viewed history post-1945 as a narrative of progress, only to find themselves unable to fulfil the promises – freedom, stability and prosperity – of a globalized economy, and so become increasingly susceptible to demagogues and their simplifications. Mishra reveals how all over the world, the common reaction has been intense hatred of supposed villains, the invention of enemies, attempts to recapture a lost golden age, unfocused fury and self-empowerment through spectacular violence.
Anytime people write about a lost golden age they are full of shit, there never was one.
Mishra says it himself, ‘invention of enemies’. A state of affairs the deep state stands ready to nurture. Trump seeks not to build a wall. Trump seeks to build a tower of babble where men who carry guns in patent leather holsters will someday soon be saying ‘papers please’. Then only those certified as being correct will get any goodies, for the rest, no soup for you.
But America deserves it from a Dunning-Kruger point of view. America voted in a man who owns golf courses. A man who worships division and if that is not ignorance what is? By the same logic If Attila the Hun were still round America should put him in charge of the justice department.
I ‘m not wowed by Pankrat Mishra either.
some good points there.
Seems to me Russia is again being sold as the big baddy on the block again. I don’t think many people are buying it though this time, I might be wrong about that.
If the US is gonna be sold into the idea of race war, then the country is truly & surely doomed. Just close up shop now. I know what that movie looks like, and its not a good ending.
So you admit that the Whites in South Africa are in deadly danger from the Blacks, right? Right? I mean you know that Blacks genocided the Whites of Haiti, so it’s not like there’s some Cosmic Law that prevents Blacks from killing Whites in vast numbers.
So Janos, with all this talk going on about the situation in South Africa, I though you might like a bit of inside information so I checked in with my contact from DC on the matter. I asked what non-classified information I could be told regarding the real situation in SA concerning the assaults on whites and was told the following:
“Africa as a continent is lost. Some of what you are hearing is true. Some is not.” Not much to go on so I added, “Well perhaps the Chinese will be able to change that. I hear that they are very interested in being there.” I received a very big smiling grin in return. As an added bonus I was reminded, “You know with all of the effort and time we have spent in Afghanistan, we are not reaping any of the benefits of the rare earth resources that were found there. The Chinese are shipping them all out on the railroad that they built.”
Africa as a continent that is lost to me infers that it is not going to get better and even if the reports that are coming out of SA are half wrong, given time they will escalate. We humans have never really excelled at problem solving have we? We are rather good at creating more though. Too bad.
The Chinese will make the Blacks work and protect their own people. In some places in Africa, the Red Army is actually on the ground. A ruthless, intelligent, and pragmatic race who love and respect themselves very deeply. In contrast Whites dither, one minute trying to convert the Blacks, the next exploiting and oppressing them. Now we have settled on pandering to them at the expense of our own people. What utter folly.
Whites are also being savaged in Hawaii. Give it to the Japanese and they will do what Uncle Samuel refuses to do: protect White lives, dignity, and property.
Chingros
I have seen it written that the Chinese will always do what is best for China regardless of what it does for anyone else. The Chinese masses are also very happy to simply be able to eat. Americans have become far too affluent and have taken the basics for granted and once you do that it is easy to lose them. The Orientals also seem to be impervious to attack as racist, (guess only whites can be racist), but this could simply be because if you piss them off they tend to roll over your with a tank, so BTFO. I am starting to believe that it may be their turn at the helm next. When you look at world powers (Rome, Great Britain, the USA) a case can be made that global dominance is moving Westward and headed West from the USA, China would fall in line with the route.
Is he not implicitly expressing scorn for the idea of a ‘lost golden age’ that others are pursuing? That’s what I understood from the quote, although I may be wrong.
Let’s look at this from the other angle. The U.S. has a constitutional structure or legislature, judiciary, and executive. Over the past number of Administrations the executive has been taking on more power, or outright handed to it from the legislature. It is safe to say there is a wide imbalance in the U.S. tripartite state structure.
So what is the “state” (those rascally institutions) supposed to do? This is how they try to bring balance back to the system of State. Whether it is by nefarious means is another matter, however it may one of the few options available to them due to the failure of the legislature.
Hopefully the pendulum doesn’t swing back too far in the other direction. But there you have it. The root cause is the investment of more authority in the Office of the President – with deliberate leanings towards authoritarianism obviously.
I don’t think increased power of the presidency is responsible for my emails being made into a word salad and returned to me as three separate scrambled copies every time I try and contact somebody with enough connections to actually reach out and articulate the dirty deeds that are going down.
A New York Times Story:
When I was living in Harlem the Times ran a story about the sound of West African drums in Marcus Garvey Park. This had been going on every summer on Saturday night till 10 pm since 1969. Apparently, there had been complaints emanating from the luxury co-op with its million dollar apartments across the way. Seems its tenants couldn’t listen to their TV’s, talk on the phone or get any rest while the ruckus was going on. The Times chose to label its residents as “young ‘white’ professionals.” There had also been ongoing complaints by blacks about the noise, but that’s not news.
I came away from my Harlem experience, where I was discriminated against for the color of my skin on a daily basis, having concluded that most of racism is created and nurtured by politicians and the main stream press. And further, that either everyone deserves affirmative action as we have all been discriminated against for one reason or another, or no one does. It is impossible to rebalance all the injustices that government subjects its citizens to and all attempts to do so merely contribute to it.
“having concluded that most of racism is created and nurtured by politicians and the main stream press. And further, that either everyone deserves affirmative action as we have all been discriminated against for one reason or another, or no one does.”
Wow, what a voice of reason, thank you, bless you. Just when I am about to lose hope, hope springs eternal once again! You have made my day, again thank you.
A guy that knows which “laws” to enforce and which “laws” should not be Enforced, by following the Constitution, might be the one you want in the office. And if you hate the Constitution and the “laws” of the land, you might want him impeached.
Say what you will, but very nearly everything of any consequence now used by all the peoples of the world was invented by white people and I do include Jews as white people by the way. The Chinese may belong in that category as well, for they were an inventive culture before their near destruction by European colonial powers. It’s the aboriginals of whom many of the now deified browns are the descendants of (mostly only a few generations out) who did not have many creative contributions to our modern world. The current SJW crusade to invert all this and portray white people, men in particular, as useless parasites riding on the backs of the noble browns and tans, is a beautiful example of magical thinking at work to convince people of the truth of what is not true.
Yes, but often Jews don’t identify as White and work against them. That explains much of the current American dilemma as they are vastly over-represented in the Elite. The current Harvard case is fascinating, though the Truth probably won’t come out. The Jews have gained control of the admissions and consequently many of the Whites are Jews. Non-Jewish Whites are the least represented of all groups.
Are they going to feel guilty about excluding Asians as they were excluded generations ago? No. They don’t have the White Guilt complex by and large.
It’s probably been said here already, but “Hoosier clods” sounds almost as bad as “deplorables”. Better be careful who you insult, Jim. Politicians are always fair game, but not the electorate.
Bobwise,
1. Comedy is about things that make us uncomfortable.
2. Don’t lay that PC trip on me.
Anyway, “deplorables” was not funny.
“Hoosier clods” is funny.
–JHK
I think most of the posters, including our host, are mistaken about the true nature of events taking place in United States. It is not the war of Left against Right, or Globalists against Nationalist, or the Government against its people or the combined force of Rich and Powerful against We the People.
The closest analogue of events taking place is the War of the Roses in England in the 15th century, which was a religious war of White Lancaster against the Red York and was provoked by the Black Templars. As you must certainly remember, it ended up with the Union of Red and Whites – sort of modern day Entente – and the defeat of the Blacks in England.
The main weapons of this war are 1. Fomenting racial tensions inside the US and 2. Fomenting the nuclear war with Russia by the method of introduction of harsher and harsher sanctions.
I personally can trace the World Colored Projects to Sylvester II, Abelard and the Roger II Empire, or rather, its splitting, which resulted in the Sicilian Vespers, when the Reds and Whites united and slaughtered the Blacks.
But the names of the world projects – Red, White and Black – I did not borrow from the Sicilian Vespers, and certainly not from the Civil War in Russia, but from the scene from the first part of “Henry IV” of Shakespeare in London’s Temple where the lords choose red and white roses, thus choosing either Lancaster or York.
And black color is the color of the place where this scene takes place – the residence and the sacred center of the English Templars, who created the City of London, the banking system and financial industrial capitalism. Accordingly, historically red, white and black turn out to be the colors of the Templar flag before the Cutting of the Elm – a red cross on a black and white field, as these colors symbolized the legend of the beginning of the war between York and Lancaster.
By the way, it was Shakespeare in “Henry IV” who introduced into mass English culture the notion of the role of the Blacks in the War of the Roses. (and in his time Shakespeare was an English pop-art).
But the very term “The War of the Red and White Roses” did not arise in Shakespeare’s “Henry IV”, but in Walter Scott’s “Charles the Bold”, who used the aforementioned Shakespeare’s scene for the introduction of the title “The War of the Red and White Roses”, thus connecting this novel not only with “Quentin Durward”, but also with “Ivanhoe,” and in ” Charles the Bold” the Black Project is not so much the English Templars as the Secret Tribunals of Westphalia, and both these strings are naturally leading to the Fourth and Albegensian Crusades.
Although, on the other hand, the symbols of the Civil War in Russia are really connected with the Wars of the Red and White Roses, as well as the black uniform of Gestapo with the Secret Tribunals of Westphalia, analogue of which in our days is the Mueller Commission.
The scene from “Henry IV” by Shakespeare when the lords choose their allegiance to York or Lancaster in the London Templar Castle
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Plucking_the_Red_and_White_Roses_in_the_Old_Temple_Gardens_%281908%29_by_Henry_Arthur_Payne.jpg
Mountains Finc,
These vectors of history as you describe them, if true, require institutional memory. I’m curious, what are these institutions?
Obviously institutions have much longer memories than individual humans, but still lasting a few hundred years at most.
Ideologies, on the other hand, have life spans of millennial and are in the work of arts, literature and architecture, philosophic writings and, probably, in some secret knowledge passed from one generation to another.
For example, Black Project during the Crusades was mostly represented by the Templar and Teutonic Knightly Orders with ideological support coming from Cistercian monastic order.
During the more modern times it was represented by certain Masonic lodges (not all of them).
In our times: The Thule Society, NSDAP (now ODESSA), in United States – the Council on Foreign Relationships (former Inquiry).
Morricone – Il Clan Dei
— https://youtu.be/2My4dcAk8d4
Mishra’s diatribe “The Religion of Whiteness Becomes a Suicide Cult” is not a call to arms against Whites. It is a paean to Mishra’s ignorance of history. I suppose he blames Whites for India’s caste system, too.
As if the two things are mutually contradictory. One can be ignorant and call for genocide after all.
Whites are still in denial even after the hiring of Jeong and articles like this. Good God!
Cancel your subscriptions, folks. Can you do that much at least? Or do you hate yourselves too much to do even that?
This president enjoys using the bully pulpit as did Teddy Roosevelt.
Love it or hate it there has never been a time in recent history when so many Americans were engaged in political discourse.
DONT GO TO TORONTO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crjcoin5Dfg
OR TO SAN FRANCISCO
We are not heading into a dark era, we are in it now. Today! The barbarians are flooding into civilization. The population is addicted. Disease is rampant. Ethnics hate other ethnics. We are routinely fed false information. Churches are morally bankrupt. A segment of the population worships the earth. Education is pathetic. Most college students are stupid especially the breed who borrow money to fund their indoctrination. We live on the edge of economic, social and political disaster. Law enforcement at the highest levels are corrupt. Collapse depends on where you stand personally.
So when the happy-happys see your remarks and scold you for not going the happy-happy route, do not listen to them, do not despair, for admitting that we have problems is the first step in solving them.
The public is indeed becoming barbarized but that is a natural progression due to the lowering of expectations and incomes. Remain above the degradation and set a good example. Perhaps one day it will become fashionable again to be civilized.
The population may be addicted, but those that can avoid addiction will remain in better, healthier lifestyles and consequently have better lives.
Churches may be morally bankrupt, but Faith and Truth are available without following a crowd down a beaten path.
All of the points which you raise are true to one degree or another and because they are, it is even more critical that those who can, avoid the pitfalls and snares and live even better lives in Truth and Decency.
Fuck, happy-happy. Embrace what you have already done and improve upon your life. See, understand and avoid what is not right. How’s that for a positive attitude, eh?
“A segment of the population worships the earth. ”
I’m not sure what you mean by that, RB, but I’m guessing you’re having a go at environmentalists, rather than pagan worshippers.
If so, I’d quote one of our Conservative (yet unusually environmentally aware) MPs who pointed out that ‘the economy is a subset of the environment and not the other way around’. Let the environment degrade and your economy will degrade too – as will we.
The word itself references the biosphere that surrounds us and supports the organisms that live in it (particularly us, but also the other organisms on whom a healthy environment depends).
The earth is in no danger and does not require to be worshipped. It will long outlive us and when it’s finally swallowed up it will feel no pain. That, sadly will not be true for us.
“Conservatives”, of course, should be the most environmentally aware, but the name is one of the ironies of the age, sadly.
I notice you like to use the word sadly at the end of many of your posts.
I notice that you are perceptive, Q 🙂
Many things about our current situation are sad. Although I’d have settled for saying “I notice that you use the word ‘sadly’ “, rather than suggesting that I particularly like using it. It would, of course, be nice not to need to use it, if our situation were more ‘happy-happy’, to borrow Walter’s terminology.
I would also point out (in the friendliest possible way) that your sentence means something very different from what you intended, simply because you missed out the inverted commas!
I wouldn’t say this to anyone else, as I prefer not to comment on people’s spelling and grammar, despite what Janos might infer, but I know you like a bit of linguistic banter.
Also despite what Janos and a certain other would infer, I don’t copyedit anyone’s work for a living – we have people for that. They earn less than I do for my role. Sadly (for them). 🙂
Trump also uses the word “sad” at the end of many of his innumerable tweets.
CaptS
Making an adverb out of it is probably a bit much for Trump, so I’ll stick with ‘sadly’ and not feel defiled by association 🙂 .
Janos, if you’re reading this at this late hour, I don’t approve of a certain person whom you suggested as Minister of Grammar. That would give her control of the language. It would be a total disaster. Eric Blair warned about that.
Yeah like what’s his name who said he wanted to come back as a deadly virus. What a man! What an inspiration! Almost as great as John McCain.
Whats wrong with worshiping the Earth exactly? At least its a fact it exists.
I too exist. The Earth is my footstool and the sky my umbrella. But Allahu Akbar – God is Greater than any and all.
“Whats wrong with worshiping the Earth exactly? At least its a fact it exists.”
Well, we can certainly love it and be in awe of it. It’s beautiful.
No thanks to us, sa…. er… unfortunately.
Reminds me of that incredible week at the tail-end of 1968 when Apollo 8’s Bill Anders took that great photo of God’s Golfball floating in the great nothingness and there commenced a serious ‘conversation’ about our place in the cosmos and how precious our little spaceship was. That kind of thing happened a lot in the 60s unlike this idiotic time we find ourselves in now.
Love it or hate it there has never been a time in recent history when so many Americans were engaged in political discourse. –mow
I’m lovin’ it! Look at Florida, historically a red state. Last week there was a 25% increase in the youth vote (thank you, David Hogg) and a non-millionaire candidate won who was endorsed by Bernie (thank you, Bernie’s Revolution) so Florida might have its first Black governor. I think all that political engagement is great.
Here is Andrew Gillum, who won in a red state, on the issues:
Says defunding Planned Parenthood jeopardizes women’s health.
Stimulus better than market-led recovery.
Opposes discrimination based on gender identity.
Supports same-sex marriage.
Staunch supporter of LGBT rights.
Take down Confederate monuments.
Corporate tax cuts can create jobs, supports training.
Stricter punishment doesn’t reduce crime.
Ban the box: re-entry of returning citizens into job market.
Restorative justice programs to reduce teen recidivism.
Marijuana isn’t a gateway drug.
Focus on opioid epidemic as medical issue.
Opposes vouchers for school choice, supports public schools.
Transition Florida to clean energy as rapidly as possible.
Climate change is a real; transition to clean energy.
EPA has critical role in protecting us from toxic pollution.
EPA protects our families from corporate toxic pollution.
Support American Exceptionalism.
Support free trade with restrictions.
Make voter registration easier.
Limit corporate money in campaigns.
No right to guns for domestic abusers or mentally ill.
Favors strong gun laws.
Operation Safe Neighborhood: community crime watch.
Extend Medicaid to one million Floridians.
Expand ObamaCare; Medicare for All.
Healthcare should be a fundamental right.
Opposes expanding the military.
Pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens.
Protect Dreamers from end of DACA.
Legally require hiring more women & minorities.
Fight any attempt to privatize Social Security.
Economy should work for all, not just those at the top.
Digital Harmony Project: computers & internet for school kids.
America should be world’s human rights champion.
Public/private programs gets youth on right track.
THERE ARE ISSUES OTHER THAN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, ANTI-SEMITISM, WHITE SUPREMACY, RACE WAR, ETC.
This has been a reality check. Red state votes for Bernie supporter.
Your posts should come with a laugh track janet
Janet dear, before you go into permanent orgasm, remember Andrew Gillum won the Democratic primary, not the general election. It does not turn Florida into a blue state when a Democrat wins a Democratic primary.
Maybe some man can explain all this to you.
Last week there was a 25% increase in the youth vote (thank you, David Hogg) – janet
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Google David Hogg and you will find he is described as an ‘advocate’ and an ‘activist’ (do you like those single quotes Greenie?). He is well on his way to having a lifetime vocation without ever breaking a sweat. All he needs now is to figure how to monetize his activism. He should meet with the reverends Jackson and Sharpton. I’m sure they can give him some tips.
Yeah, something like five Parkland kids wanted to do the same thing. But Hogg, with his FBI and Ethnic connections has vanquished the others, even the buzz cut Lesbo Latinx – no mean feat.
What a repulsive countenance he has! What a frightful mien!
I am offering free belts and the use of my warehouse to those who wish to hang themselves or their obnoxious neighbors ….. hmmmm, maybe that’s why they named it the beltway
BOOK RECOMMENDATION:
Jason Stanley, How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them
“Reveals how the liberties of the people wither when voters embrace politicians who promote the divisive politics of us versus them.”—David Cay Johnston, author of The Making of Donald Trump and It’s Even Worse Than You Think
This book offers a clear, concise definition of what exactly fascism is, and how we see it operating in everyday life. It also explains how it works…what components are put together to create real fascism. For instance, you might have propaganda, but none of the other facets of fascism and hence would not be experiencing fascism.
For those who need a refresher on how this pernicious ideology actual operates, this book is an excellent primer. In quick chapters, it covers the various means that fascists, both past and present, use to gain power – from demonizing the press, putting their thumb on the scales of electoral systems, promoting nativism, and attacking perceived opponents, it is both enlightening and scary how similar fascists are even in countries that are otherwise quite dissimilar.
https://www.amazon.com/How-Fascism-Works-Politics-Them/dp/0525511830/
“Us and them” is real, for all, and always will be. And without it the world would be very boring. “Us and them” can be eliminated as easily as “close and distant,” “up and down,” “hot/cold” and “foreign/familiar.” Existence would be boring without “the other” and “the foreigner.” The human mind hates Boring. The mind would rebel against it.
What’s that theory, “Dunbar’s Number” — where he said 150 was the maximum number of people to have stable, significant relationships. That number is way too high! 50 is too high, based on my experience. So “the other” will always be the vaster part of the world. Hard to really know even a dozen people.
I think people who seem to want to congeal in a blob with The Seven Billion (“We can’t have any division from anything!”) — are people lacking human relationships. This notion stands in for that lack. Kinda silly, wanting to be merged with the 7 billion. Give me a few friends. A few familiars. A few family. It’s more than enough work.
Just my opinion!
Jim says: “Their bad faith specialty these days is stoking the fires of race war under the pretense of “social justice.”
This is brave to say and everybody needs to hear it. It seems to me Black folk used to be happier when they had their own communities and culture, being among themselves. Lefty press definitely tries to stoke discontent in Blacks, even hatred. Thank you Jim for your honesty.
Mr. Kunstler is a favorite writer of mine. Him along with Janos (I come here to read the brave Janos and Jim.) Such delight. I notice he has evolved to very broad mind over the years.
I don’t like the “racist” slur. Seems the word is used to smear natural, human, and positive things: Identity, belonging, and the glue that produces distinct peoples. (Diversity!) Sick of hearing “racist.”
Yes, it’s sad Trump is so inelegant, verbally. If he would just cut out words like “incredible” and ‘tremendous” — and refrain from saying things twice — his class factor would go up. But he’s good for the country and puts Americans first, as he should. I prefer his good heart and oafishness over Obama’s suave-talk-plus-death.
Hammond B-3 organ! In one of my high school bands my pal, Rick, had one of those. He was into the mountains, and going to rarefied natural places, and started making his own backpacks and pants, then became lead designer for a major outdoor gear company. Years sitting at a sewing machine. Improving things. Loved printmaking, pyslocybin (?) mushrooms, and beautiful music. He sure loved his Hammond B3. Typical White man. Let the Peoples live on. A “racist” is a lover.
If he would just cut out words like “incredible” and ‘tremendous” – Omkar
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……..and ‘digrace’
disgrace
That was uncalled for Q. It’s that kind of thing that gets you in trouble with the Man, and the Man in all of us.
Thank you Omkar. Things are what they are because they’re not something else. No Walls? How about no Cell Walls? No borders? How about no skin?
If one would escape the prison house of body and self, one must go In and Up, not Down and Out into Globalism and Interracial sex. The Gita abhors looseness in Women leading to caste mixture and universal destruction.
And Om is one such vehicle of Up Going….
Like countless young White Men, I bathed my intellect in Glory of the Bhagavad Gita, a work to be read “on one’s knees” as Emerson put it. And like so many I’m sure, imagine my shock at meeting actual Hindus. They are so unworthy in so many ways. Is this the result of Westernization? Or just the general result of Kali Yuga? Did these people even write this scripture? Or was it our Ancestors before they mixed with the Browns there? It doesn’t feel like anything Hindus would or could write as they are now. But of course, I’m sure they are disappointed to meet us as well – we hardly embody the best of our Culture, either that of the Greeks or that of Christ.
There’s a picture of Mishra here: my Gaydar goes off the chart looking at him. Many if not most Indian Men are bisexual apparently. A huge problem in the Subcontinent among both Hindus and Muslims. Sir Richard Burton opined that that zone of the Earth, stretching all the way to Morocco produced this. Don’t know if he extended it to the New World or to East Asia. What limit his crankery? But his observation is true, if not the theory. He also believe they passed it to the Negroes. Interesting. No idea if there’s anything to that.
https://www.amren.com/news/2018/08/the-religion-of-whiteness-becomes-a-suicide-cult/
An attempt by Mother Nature to limit the population, perhaps? Nature corrects Man’s vices when he won’t correct Himself – but does so ruthlessly. View the Muslim takeover of Europe for example. Nature will not abide such effeminacy and sterility to long continue. Whatever their sexual obsessions (many consider them stronger sexed than Whites), they at least have not fallen into sterility. Bisexuality and Homosexuality may be more tolerated – but they are not condoned – and never to the extent of creating a “Gay” identity and not marrying.
Saw a story this week of a nine-year-old boy who committed suicide a few weeks after “coming out at school as gay.”
Since when does a nine-year-old come out? Good grief, in most cases, nine-year-olds haven’t hit puberty. I bet his mom is the kind who runs around screeching in her pussy hat when not working at her job doing contemplative inter-humanitarian Zen flower plucking.
Jen
I hope you’d feel comfortable saying that to her at her son’s funeral, Jen. There’s nothing like a bit of Christian comfort when your life’s just been torn apart. And you didn’t mention that it was homophobic bullying that caused the suicide.
I’ve never had the experience of having a gay child but my understanding from reading is that they can be aware of their orientation well before puberty.
Seems children can be disgustingly cruel before they reach puberty too. Maybe their parents teach them bigotry on the way home from Sunday School.
I’m guessing that feeling contempt for the heartbroken mother is your way of deflecting the guilt that you just can’t make yourself ascribe to the parents of the bullying children, who might just be ‘Christians’. Because Christians are good people. Aren’t they?
One of the things religious people routinely do is bend themselves into pretzels to make reality fit their beliefs (and then they laugh at ‘liberals’).
‘Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me’.
That’s what we were taught as kids. Seems to me in this case the Islamists who throw real stones are brutal but more honest – the Christians just throw words that kill people. And then laugh at their mothers. (In my head now I’m seeing a Jihadist with a murderous smile saying ‘God is Great’.)
That people can go to church every week and say something this nasty about a grieving mother is one of many reasons why I don’t go any more. I just can’t get my head round it.
Perhaps next Sunday you could say a quiet prayer for her. Because her son is never coming back. But the bullies are. And some of the churches will do their bit to keep ’em coming.
I expect she’d rather he’d been straight. Most of us would – nobody wants their child to be a target for the haters. But I also expect she’d rather he’d been gay than dead. I expect you would too in her place. Or maybe not, depending on how good you are at making pretzels.
Even Fox bloody News blamed the bullies and not the mother.
Jen, you read a lot, so perhaps I could recommend this book:
Looking into the Distance – the Human Search for Meaning.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Looking-Distance-Human-Seach-Meaning-ebook/dp/B002VNFNQK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535891234&sr=8-1&keywords=looking+in+the+distance
You could read it in an evening – it’s not long. It’s by Richard Holloway, former Anglican Bishop of Edinburgh. I went to a talk of his once, when he was still Bishop (and I’ve spotted him on the bus a couple of times!). He’s a lovely, sincere man (and married with a family, which for some annoying reason one sometimes has to specify on this site).
It’s a lovely book. It won’t convert you or fill you with contempt for some section or other of the human population, like many of the books that are recommended on here. But I genuinely think it deserves a read, just to put the other side of the picture to the people with ‘certainties’.
Richard Holloway devoted his life, love and energy to his faith. Then he left it behind. And that started with his frustrated attempts to reconcile his rational mind to the irrational view of his church on homosexuality. He wasn’t good at the pretzel thing – too honest.
Ever since he’s been writing about topics around morality, religion, art, reflections on mortality etc. I think he writes beautifully.
When I was a Christian, I read endless bias-confirming books – even some samizdat ‘testimonies’ earnestly passed to me back when I was a student by an evangelical fellow-student (there weren’t many!) from persecuted evangelical groups in the USSR.
So I’ve done all the Christian-confirming stuff. I think this book’s worth a few hours of anyone’s time, but I’m just putting it out there.
An unfortunate aspect of this suicide is how quickly cynical, opportunistic people rush to politicize it. “Hooray another point scored for our LGB -whatever agenda!”
Meanwhile, Green Alba uses it to fire a wide shotgun blast at Christians in general, even though no version of this story I saw indicated “Christians” hounded the child into committing suicide.
Oh and by the way, In Saudi Arabia they chop off gay heads (part of their 150 executions per year). But to GA they are so much better, honest, and morally superior to those shit talking Christians she imagines played a role in all this.
HM
Indeed they didn’t, but Jen tells us about her visits to church.
I am less opportunist than you give me credit for. But you don’t surprise me. I just pay attention to what people say.
And if you paid more attention to what I say you’d know I despise the Saudis. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve decried both your government and mine for having anything to do with them and especially for arming them as they go off to kill civilians.
And they hang gays too.
Perhaps, hm, you might reread my post in the light of your knowledge that I was talking about Christian Jen.
I kinda like Jen, but I’m disappointed that she could say what she said.
Maybe she wanted to be liked on here and that’s the kind of remark that gets you liked on here.
Now, me, obviously, I have as much chance of being liked on here as that old snowball’s chance in Hell, so I’m not likely to make a remark like that for such a purpose.
If your kid is gay, that’s fine. But the timing just seems off to me. Why announce that you are gay when you haven’t even had a sexual experience? (I’m presuming that a 9-year-old is a virgin.)
Seems like its just asking for trouble.
Jen
And I don’t have an LGBT agenda. I don’t know a single ‘T’. I knew one ‘B’ when I was a student and he ended up ‘G’, as far as I heard.
I have no ‘L’ friends either, although there was one I knew of in the London office of my last employer. She was in HR and was a pain in the arse.
I never ever post on here proactively about homosexuality or related topics. But there are some things you can’t let go without responding to or you’d feel ashamed of yourself.
Hi Jen
I don’t have a gay kid – I have a gay nephew of 21 or 22 – I can’t even remember. I hope no-one is ever so vile to him that he tops himself, because he’s lovely and he would be a loss to humanity and his family.
And my only answer to you, regarding the ‘why’ is …he’s nine. Or rather was. I don’t know how a nine-year-old would think in that situation other than what he allegedly said.
I don’t think it would be great either that his mother would have to say, ‘ok, it’s fine that you told me, but we have to keep it a secret from everyone else, because most people think it’s a bad, wrong and perverted thing to be’.
I expect that could eventually make you suicidal too.
I’m not an expert, but my understanding is that pre-pubertal children certainly do feel like either boys or girls and have the beginnings of sexual awareness, even before their hormones really kick in at puberty. Some boys start looking at porn, unfortunately, as young as nine or ten.
My husband has a lovely niece – 18, cute and freckly and with a mane of gorgeous curly red Irish hair. She was our flower girl, along with her younger sister, when we got married. She’s just ‘come out’ and introduced her equally lovely parents to her girlfriend. It was a surprise, although they said it wasn’t entirely a surprise to them – but I hope no-one is vile to her either, to the extent she’d do something desperate. She would also be a loss to a huge Irish and Irish-American family that are all about love and family.
I really don’t delve that deeply into this stuff – I’ve only really encountered anti-gay animosity on this site. I wish I didn’t have to think about it but people insist on bringing it up repeatedly. Mostly I try to ignore it and will try even harder.
I’ve never been anti-gay but just don’t care either way. I had a gay sort-of friend at uni who kept up with a small group of three female friends and myself and whom we all find extremely annoying. I think I’ve managed to lose him, although I still get messages occasionally. He volunteered to me once that he would go on holiday to Hungary where he could meet up with what I took to be underage boys. I was so disgusted that I ignored his efforts to meet up with us. Women aren’t generally so good at just telling people to get lost – my husband said we should just tell him to **** off!
I judge people by how they behave individually, not by what group they belong to.
Anyway, I’d still recommend that book 🙂 .
Green Alba,
I have a wonderful, gorgeous niece who came out as gay as a college sophomore. I adore her.
Her family is coming down from Oregon for Thanksgiving at our house this year. My biggest worry is that she is also vegan! Her mother can’t handle gluten. What shall I cook?
Jen
Oh gawd, now that really IS a problem!
I think on this occasion Google is going to be your friend.
You may have to cook a standard centrepiece with variegated accessories… a sort of culinary Venn diagram in terms of who can eat what.
I hope it all goes well anyway – they’re coming to see you and not primarily for the food!
We have a friend who is an excellent cook and/but very carnivorous. She complains about vegetarians by saying ‘why should I cook vegetarian for them when they don’t cook meat for me?’
There’s a certain logic to that, but I don’t think it’s going to get her very far…
San Jose you asked, “Why announce that you are gay when you haven’t even had a sexual experience?” You are fortunate that you are not from New Jersey because in so questioning that idea you would be branded a homophobe. I started going back and forth with my 14 year old daughter two years ago when she told us about all of the different sexual inclinations her friends in school were from gay and bi, to pan, multi, poly and I cannot even remember all of the different classifications that she was able to list. When I asked if any of these young people were actually having sex yet or were still virgins, I received quite the emotional outburst along with the statement that of course they had not had ANY form of sexual experience yet, they were just choosing sides for when the time came as it were.
Over the course of the next two years, all of these kids changed choices a number of times, at least in theory and my daughter still has issues with me because I will not come out and embrace this current agenda. None of it makes any sense to me but it all stems from the what the schools are “teaching” them, and math, history and science are not a very big part of the curriculum. Social engineering however rules the day. It disturbs me because these young people are seriously stressed and confused and the problems they are now having are so serious that one high school girl last year succeeded in hanging herself in the bathroom of one of our regional high schools. The situation is NOT good at all.
I can only conclude that our schools are more sane, Walter.
I came across this re sex education on Scottish schools and I don’t see anything scary in it.
https://www.gov.scot/Resource/Doc/158295/0042865.pdf
And the situation remains that parents are consulted, can voice concerns at all times, and if they’re really not happy, they can have their child miss the lessons (if the child agrees) and deal with the issues at home instead. That seems fair enough to me.
DId you see what just happened? Jen got off her leash and Alba brought her back by virtue shaming. Jen then felt compelled to talk about HER Gay relative and how much she ADORES her. Alba wins again. Modern day people are so weak because of their faux Christian upbringing.
Janos
The issue in question was never about whether anyone did or did not have a gay relative or whether or not it was ill-advised of the little boy to tell his classmates he was gay. He was nine – his wisdom and judgement were hardly the point.
The issue was the unwarranted attack on the mother and the missing out of the vital point that the child killed himself because of bullying.
Even Fox News blamed it on the bullying and provided a suicide helpline for good measure.
Bullying happens. Parents should do their best to bring their children up not to be bullies, whatever they think of their classmates. Victim blaming is not OK.
And you are not helpful.
And Jen would be very welcome to tea and scones in my house anytiime. I don’t think she operates at all on the same plane as you. You just seem to want to spread hate and mischief.
If your schools are more sane GA, then good for you, you are fortunate, but it has no bearing on the problems that we face over here. Making 12 year olds aware that perhaps one day they might like to experience an omnivorous diet of sexual adventures, for me at least, is akin to teaching 14 year olds how to handle and operated assault weapons in the event that one day they might venture overseas to plunder 3rd world countries of their assets. Like I said, perhaps, I am simply too old to live.
Walter, I do actually pretty much agree with you, if things are as excessive as you suggest. I think it’s fair enough to warn kids that they *may* experience confusing feelings as they pass through certain early stages of their approach to adulthood and that they should talk to their parents and/or whoever else you think would be a trusted person to talk to if that is the case, rather than worry that they are ‘different’ and not ‘normal’. Also that they should be tolerant and understanding of others who might feel similar confusion or simply not seem quite like them (to avoid the bullying).
Anything much more than that sounds like ‘leading questions’ to me. And I agree that creating confusion where none existed is not acceptable.
Once people have reached a certain stage of maturity, we need to accept their right to own their feelings, though (sorry that choice of vocabulary is more one of the times than one of mine), and I have no more idea than anyone else of why it’s all got quite so out of hand – or why exhibitionism rules.
My only proviso is that I have heard young (not sure how old – maybe 10 or so? – children speak with some intellectual maturity about their feelings of being out of kilter with their gender and wanting to ‘fix’ this before puberty, because after puberty it becomes more difficult for obvious reasons. This clearly conflicts with our default beliefs that they’re too young to be sure enough to do something possibly irreversible. I have no answer to that dilemma.
I have compassion for confused and hurt people. But I can’t get much beyond LGBT in terms of letters and lack the curiosity to do so – like you I’m probably too old. I have to admit to not even knowing what ‘queer’ means in modern parlance (and am clearly, at this moment too incurious to look it up). It used to simply mean gay when I was young.
Ten does sound rather young. Perhaps they were young-looking 12-year-olds and I missed the bit where it was explained. It’s difficult to tell these days. But they did seem both quite intellectually mature and very certain.
And I hasten to add I’m not talking about surgery, which I think (hope) is generally considered unethical before a person has reached adulthood, but rather hormonal treatment to put off the normal appearance of secondary sexual characteristics.
And I do still keep wondering about our conversion of our environment into a chemical soup having some bearing on the matter. I recall reading about gender-bending chemicals even in such banal products as washing-up liquid, although I think that may be something that was looked into by regulators some time ago.
And if you think I’ve ever ‘won’ anything on this website you must be blind.
Mr. Kunstler wrote: “Radiating anger and, at times, actual malice, Mr. Trump presented exactly the lack of couth that drives his hypothetically more refined “blue” enemies up a tree.”
This idea of couth and uncouth delights me. Dictionary.com only states: “showing or having good manners or sophistication; smooth” I think that’s lacking. Couth is bigger than that. It would be cool to look at earlier printed dictionaries and what they say. (A subversive activity, reading older dictionaries!) And it occurs to me that the people around me (in American society) are more and more uncouth with each passing day. It fascinates me that Mr. Kunstler has a very developed sense of couth/uncouth. He has always expressed disgust with the tattoos. Tattoos were, it occurs to me, always uncouth. Kunstler and some others (like me) refuse to take remove them from the uncouth list. Thus a basic thing happening in society today: People are becoming more uncouth.
Some of us long for more couth environments and scenes that elevate the mind, raise the shakti, stop the breath with any moment of awe. Jim is one of these, to be sure, aching for it even. Nowadays I go into awe, my breath almost stopping, just seeing a long-legged, bare armed White woman walking down the street unmarked by tattoos.
I almost fall into a pile, almost thinking she is a kind of goddess of incorruptibility and instinctive dharma, inwardly thanking me for giving me once again a “field of pure, untouched snow,” a field of all possibilities. And she’s couth! Couth elevates! Uncouth degrades. Thus why many are so instinctively offended by Trump’s manner. (God bless him.)
The mind craves for “the untouched,” the Pure. “Gold” represents that. At at least Trump doesn’t have a tattoo. That would really be depressing. Could not even be called a “golden golem” then!
“Couth and uncouth” inevitably orient or disorient to dharma, religion, cultural history, and ultimate questions.
Like countless young White Men, I bathed my intellect in Glory of the Bhagavad Gita, a work to be read “on one’s knees” as Emerson put it.
Yea, it’s mind-stretching. And heavy reading for a newbie. I wish I had started with easier Upanishads like the Katha. (Yama, God of Death, rocks!) There’s a profound, mist-lost Hindu idea in nearly each new sentence of the Gita.
And like so many I’m sure, imagine my shock at meeting actual Hindus. They are so unworthy in so many ways.
It’s a conundrum. India is a place of such extremes but includes bliss-drenched yogins. The spirit of bhakti is found in Indians. They are capable of great piety. Where is there a creature like Karunamayi? We owe them a debt for keeping alive, in various pockets and recesses, this dharma.
That reminds me: Hindus have strong family ideals. The youth usually feel keenly about their parents. In that same Katha Upanishad a boy volunteers to go to the freaking Underworld to stand in for his father; to redeem his daddio. Through our lens today it’s almost incomprehensible.
But yea, I know what you mean.
Is this the result of Westernization? Or just the general result of Kali Yuga?
Both. Plus the fact Yoga is actually an Aryan thing.
Did these people even write this scripture?
See above. Interesting how the commentaries of Sankara on varied scriptures are mostly worthless. He’s noticeably lacking in insight into yogic scriptures, being half non-dualist philosopher and half Cancerian librarian of Hindu lore, and that’s it. Yet he’s regarded as a central avatar.
There’s a picture of Mishra here: my Gaydar goes off the chart looking at him.
I have a like reaction reading Sankara, or reading about him.
Whatever their sexual obsessions (many consider them stronger sexed than Whites), they at least have not fallen into sterility…Bisexuality and Homosexuality may be more tolerated – but they are not condoned – and never to the extent of creating a “Gay” identity and not marrying.
We have our own rot to face. Interesting: They cover their women’s hair. Is it because the hair represents the animal/creative energy, and humans put covers over the sacred? I think so. (Not that they consciously think this.) We find many periods of our own history featuring covering of hair. You still see vestiges: Traditional European nuns, Amish women, Mennonites — covering the hair still.
When we were not coveringthe hair, we cultivated it.
We cultivated or refined the animal energy. Thus witness the sophisticated hair in old paintings, hairdos built atop the head like cathedrals. That was like a secular step-down from our co-existent sacred cultures (in convents and monasteries) that covered it. The worldly would at least tend to, care for, the hair — even build it into magnificent, complex coiffures in the case of the royalty.
Thus wild hair and rats’ nests that involve zero care or creativity are like the polar opposite; a sign of total decline. Abbie Hoffman hippie hair or Rastafarian dreadlocks feature no-cultivation, no-uplift of the animal energy. Such hair is actually an aggressive statement against both the sacred-making impulse and the work/cultivation ideas our ancestors applied to the hair. It’s like using your hair to shout “Burn it all down!”
Were we still a people that ascribed sacredness to sexuality, the universal order wouldn’t be trying to replace us and tell our women “cover up your hair.” Wherever we lose our sense of the Sacred, some other people with even a residual sense of It, may hold sway. When you respect the Sacred, the Sacred protects you. Wild, unkempt hair is uncouth, and The Sacred dislikes it. The opposite of this state is to cover, or at least culture, the hair. It’s paying respect to the Creative Energy, which is sacred, and saying “It’s sacred.” Muslims are filling a tragic void in Europe today, where deracinated and demoralized men are not men any more and the women never even think — like their grandmothers — to cover up their animal aspects, even in church or at funerals!
“Him along with Janos (I come here to read the brave Janos and Jim.)”
There’s just too much irony there to unpack.
I was not being ironic.
Both Kunstler and Janos are well-read.
They are both articulate.
They both have knowledge of unusual, sometimes arcane, things.
They both have ethnic identity and defend their People. (They both can be called racialist; i.e. they have natural minds.)
They both have surprising, unique views of politics; both are iconoclasts.
Both introduce readers to new/old words.
Kunstler has more knowledge about aesthetics and architecture, while Janos has studied eastern religions/mysticism/scriptures. I love both areas.
Both are brave.
I could go on…
Omka, you express it very well,
Racism is Love in actuality. The problem is that in our present stuck-in-‘1984’ ingsoc-type reality, Racism is considered hate! LMAO, Ha-Ha!
All the other so-called verities apply as well. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength, and then they add Racism is Hate? WTF! See how everything gets turned upside-down? (We might substitute Diversity for Ignorance in the formulation, thus ‘Diversity is Strength,’ Ha-Ha. See how nonsensical that one is?)
Yes, Racism is Love. Love of one’s own people. It doesn’t mean that one has to hate ‘The Other’ to prefer one’s own kind.
Interesting observation.
What is the difference between anti Trump critics and witnesses and Anti Clinton critics and witnesses?
Trump critics and witnesses are still alive!
Rev. Jasper Williams says Black Lives DO NOT Matter at Aretha Franklin funeral (until they stop killing themselves.)
Is roundly censured by one & all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmip_wJyRc
While we are sill in the month of August, I want to share this excerpt from the Guns of August, by Barbara Tuchman, from the paperback Bantam edition (pp. 211-212 ). It concerns the French advance in 1914 into Alsace, territory which they had lost to Prussia in 1870.
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The long-desire moment when the French flag would be raised again in Alsace had come. The covering troops, waiting among the thick, rich pines of the Vosges, trembled with readiness. These were the remembered mountains with their lakes and waterfalls and the damp, delicious smell of the forests where fragrant ferns grew between the pines. Hilltop pastures, grazed by cattle, alternated with patches of forest. Ahead the shadowed purple line of the Ballon d’ Alsace, highest point in the Vosges, was hidden in mist. Patrols who ventured to the top could see down below the red-roofed villages of the lost territory, the gray church spires, and the tiny gleaming line of the Moselle where, young and near its source, it was narrow enough to be waded. Squares of white potato blossom alternated with strips of scarlet-runner beans and gray-green-purple rows of cabbages. Haycocks like small fat pyramids dotted the fields as if arranged by a painter. The land was at its peak of fertility. The sun sparkled over all. Never had it looked so much worth fighting for. No wonder l’Illustration in its first issue of the war showed France in the person of handsome poilu sweeping the beautiful damsel Alsace off her feet into a rapturous embrace.
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The images of the rows of cabbages and all the rest have stayed with me these four years since I first read this in August 2014. Such beauty, and it was to be swept away by unimaginable carnage.
World War I is now 100 years in the past, and the fact that Americans have not discussed it, commemorated it, and, above all, have not learned from it, defies belief.
long-desire[d]
Alsace is beautiful again – you could visit.
We had a huge amount of commemoration here (UK, not France) in 2014, as you would imagine.
It’s not the same for younger generations, but even for those of us born just after WWII, so much of WWI passed into our collective memory through the WWI poets and novelists we read at school that we still get choked up thinking about the devastation and suffering even though we have no real connection with it. WWII and the holocaust is the same but slightly different, although I know that doesn’t make a lot of sense. WWI was a loss of innocence, in many ways.
The thought of the last post being played at Ypres every single evening for 80 years makes me well up too.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/09/last-post-ypres-menin-remembrance-day
“World War I is now 100 years in the past, and the fact that Americans have not discussed it, commemorated it, and, above all, have not learned from it, defies belief.”
Sprawl,
Why say we haven’t learned from it? How would you know what the disenfranchised have learned? How could they express their knowledge? …Nobody asked me. (or you) you before foreign policy was developed and deployed.
As a blue collar worker all my life, seldom did I run into others who read very much. There were exceptions of course, but unfortunately the majority of them never really read much but the newspaper, and there mostly the sports section. As far as learning from history, I completely agree. There’s not much under the sun that hasn’t happened somewhere, sometime before. I wish more people would pay attention to the past and learn from it, but the cynic I’ve become does not believe it will ever happen. So it goes.
Elysian,
There is no evidence as expressed in our foreign policy that we have learned anything about militarism or interventionism, since WWI.
You are correct, I know nothing about what the disenfranchised you speak of have learned. Except for myself; I am one of the disenfranchised. Are you?
” I am one of the disenfranchised. Are you?”
Sprawl,
Big time! In the past, I’ve sent both letters and telegrams to various functionaries the Executive branch…never even received a “Thank you, Citizen” response…..
I think people who seem to want to congeal in a blob with The Seven Billion (“We can’t have any division from anything!”) — are people lacking human relationships. –Omkaracharya
I want to celebrate our differences in culture, race, religion, etc. I do not want a congealed blob, or a melting pot. I want a salad, where all the ingredients are identifiable and each contributes its own flavor.
Fascism wants to divide into Us vs. Them, and then scapegoats Them (non-whites, Jews, immigrants, transgendered, etc.) using terms like ‘cockroaches’ ‘animals’ ‘dogs’ etc.
The result is a process of dehumanization that permits the practice of slavery, imperialism, colonialism, racism, antisemitism, etc. because fascists foolishly believe by eliminating Them, the Us can live in peace. This will never happen in America.
We are a nation of ideals, not blood and soil. Them is not going anywhere. Them is integrated into the police and the military and the civilian population. Them is here to stay. Let’s celebrate our differences and respect one another and live together in peace. It is working in my neighborhood with three racial groups living together in harmony. We don’t all agree on issues, but we respect our differences.
Our next-door neighbor and his wife are black. But we live in the central city–Des Moines proper. Go to any of the suburbs and you will find communities that are overwhelmingly white.
These people value diversity to the extent that they try to get as far away from it as they can. Why? Well here’s an anecdote: A few months ago my wife was a substitute teacher at Martin Luther King Jr, Elementary School, in a black neighborhood of Des Moines. In the lunchroom, there was food scattered all over the floor. My wife told the janitor, who told her it was like that every day. A food fight in the lunchroom every day. My wife is not going back to that school.
It’s conditions like this that white people move away from. A simple fact, Janet.
Next year it’ll be named Aretha Franklin Elementary School.
If only she and John McCain had married and had children. They would have produced the Kwisatz Haderach – the One who shows the Way.
I grew up in Des Moines. When I left Iowans were starting to have Major Cuck Spasms. Sadly, I contributed to that process in the naive days of my youth. (Media cued me that being a multiculturalist was both virtuous and “cutting edge.”)
Wish I could go back to the Iowa that once was. What lovely people they were, grown by the centuries to be what they were, like a fine wine.
We White folks are suckers for whatever kind of virtue-signalling “media” specify for us. Used to be able to go into my beautiful Catholic church at any hour of the day/night and contemplate The Mystery. Now that Des Moines is so, ahem, “enriched,” of course it’s locked. A high-trust society is a rare thing and difficult to attain. As the glowering-imp founder of the multiculti Baha’i Faith said: “Souls tend toward estrangement.” (I paraphrased it better. Used to be a member of that bizarre outfit so I took the liberty.) “Community” and cohesiveness are hard to come by. Same as it’s difficult get elephants to mate in captivity. How much more subtle and complex we humans? Woe!
But it’s all just my own bad karma I know. I have an afflicted moon. My fault!
=)o:=
Its not you Omkaracharya, the media and those that would take advantage have many ways of playing us all for profit. There are so many of we Americans that have been blessed with so much of everything (even if you have to go into debt to get it) that I would guess a majority of us have more than a little guilt about being so well off. There are many on either side of the political and social spectrum that have studied and understand this and take full advantage of it for profit, always at the expense of the unfortunate and of those who have enough to give. The problem is that giving to some will help but giving to other will only make it worse. Being played for profit leaves us all at a loss.
You do not need a structure to contemplate The Mystery. A quiet place with a big, star filled sky and peace and quiet can lift you higher than a fancy building. Keep looking, you will find.
“You do not need a structure to contemplate The Mystery. A quiet place with a big, star filled sky and peace and quiet can lift you higher than a fancy building. Keep looking, you will find.”
lol. Done em both.
Yes, don’t stop until the bliss of Aum overwhelms you and literally takes your breath away (kevali kumbhaka etc.) For me there was nothing like a truly quiet church. Churches are places or rapture for me, and rapture is very close to The Lord.
If you need stars and mountains (or other world-rubbish) to distract you, I won’t fault your path. Utilize your personal conditioning best you can child.
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James Kunstler rocks. He just gets better. Fulfills my human need for apocalypse fantasy to clear away Carhell. I am so happy I just ordered “World Made By Hand.” Can’t wait.
I certainly do not need distraction my friend, but the works of man do not necessarily bring me closer to where I care to go. The Cadet Chapel as well as the Catholic Chapel at West Point have provided me such tranquility as you say in my day, but a recent trip to St. Patrick’s Cathedral in NYC had quite the opposite effect.
I read the above comment to my wife, and she said I should have used the word “chaos” and the word “traumatic”. There were many problems at that elementary school besides food thrown on the floor.
“stuck in the middle with you” …
Trump says it is a “witch hunt” but Mueller keeps finding broomsticks.
Washington lobbyist W. Samuel Patten pleaded guilty Friday to acting as an unregistered foreign lobbyist, and admitted to lying to the Senate Intelligence Committee and funneling a Ukrainian oligarch’s money to Donald Trump’s Presidential Inaugural Committee.
Patten’s plea and cooperation agreement is connected to special counsel Robert Mueller’s ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the election and coordination with the Trump campaign — even apparently reaching into former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s inner circle in Ukraine.
Mueller’s investigation into Russian collusion with the Trump campaign is not in bad faith. People keep pleading guilty.
TALIBAN IS WINNING. TRUMP CAVES IN AFGHANISTAN.
As of July, the Trump administration is talking to the Taliban directly, because there is an understanding that decisive battlefield success will continue to be elusive. Obama had 100,000 US troops in Afghanistan and they didn’t defeat the Taliban. Today, Trump has 15,000 troops and they cannot defeat the Taliban. Trump is losing the war. He had no secret plan. He does not know more than the generals. Trump is a liar and a loser.
These talks are happening without Afghan government representation, which has long been a Taliban demand: To speak directly with the American government. Trump caved and gave in to Taliban demands because after 17 years of fighting no victory is in sight. Trump is losing to the Taliban.
So what? Seriously, I had long hoped that Obama would abandon these endless wars and he chose not to. Then comes Trump. I had the same hope. Dashed. Why do we care about Afghan? Why do you care? What is our national interest in a country of rocks? Pox on both parties and all presidents who have kept us at war killing all too often innocent people. So far that would be about a 100% of all American pols.
Good one, Jim. Keep’em coming.
https://www.amren.com/news/2018/08/john-mccain-defended-the-wrong-america/
Jared Taylor eviscerates the Traitor, John McCain. McCain reminds one of the Coward, John Ford, who betrayed the great Southerner, Jesse James.
It was Robert Ford.
Went to the polling station Tuesday, and went old school with the old timer, voting for Arpaio, just about certain that McSally would win.
No matter what, felt like my vote was being cast into the clutches of this “bad faith nation”, that it was searching for some measure of meaning.
We are now going to have a woman representing Arizona in the US Senate for the first time ever. McSally or Sinema. If it’s Sinema in November, look out in 2020. That three million could turn into six million nationwide, as they’ll be swarming into the polling places like frenzied roaches, running from the Raid.
In one of the most compelling political adverts I’ve ever seen, Minnesota House Candidate argues “I want to be your state representative. I want to be your public servant. And I want to be your n*gger.”
Is he referring to all of the lobbyists he would take money from? I don’t get it 🙂
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/government-and-politics/4493419-minnesota-house-candidate-uses-racial-slur-campaign-video
Orthodox Anglo-Saxons refugees in Russia and Byzantium, where they fled from the horrors of the Catholic conquest of Orthodox England by Wilhelm the Bastard, seeking the protection of the Orthodox Normans of Rurik == finca
Were Anglo-Saxons and Russians closely related military alliances of the Viking (Varangian) domain during 11 – 13 centuries?
English Refugees in the Byzantine Armed Forces: The Varangian Guard and Anglo-Saxon Ethnic Consciousness
One of the most interesting episodes in Byzantine military history and in medieval English history is the Anglo-Saxon participation and service in the Varangian Guards regiment from the late 11th to the early 13th century.
Among the troops recruited into service of the Byzantine Emperor were Anglo-Saxons, who eventually made up the main component of the traditional foreign mercenary force that guarded the person of the Emperor. The crisis in Anglo-Saxon state and society brought on by the Norman Conquest created an Anglo-Saxon emigration, part of which found refuge and employment in Byzantium.
Up until the Norman conquest of England, the Varangian guards consisted chiefly of Scandinavian and Kievan Rus’ warriors.
Since the regiment up until that time consisted of Scandinavian and Kievan Rus’ troops, there is also a question as to whether there was a Norse and Russian connection to the Anglo-Saxon initiation into Byzantine service. The paper will also look into any evidence of ethnic or national consciousness among those English émigrés serving the Emperor in Constantinople from 1066 to 1204.
Traditonally, the emperors in Constantinople employed foreign mercenaries for the Imperial guard since Constantine I transferred the Roman Empire’s capitol to Byzantium.
The first Varangians in Byzantine Service, according to Benedikz and Blondal, were Christianized Russians (R?s, for both Scandinavians and Slavs), who served with Dalmatians in the Great Company as marines in the time of Constantine Porphyrogenitus (ca. 930-950). R?s served in naval expeditions against Crete in 902 and 949, and land campaigns in Syria in 955. It was no doubt this service that brought them into the Imperial guards.
A sizable contingent of Anglo-Saxons and Danes, who were not reconciled to Norman Rule in England, immigrated to Byzantium in the 1070’s. Their emigration was by sea through the Mediterranean. Some of the refugees did not accept imperial service and were allowed to settle in some area along the Black Sea coast (Crimea again?!). Others took on imperial service and became an important component in the Varangian Guard.
https://asnoc.wordpress.com/2012/06/29/english-refugees-in-the-byzantine-armed-forces-the-varangian-guard-and-anglo-saxon-ethnic-consciousness/
All the of the above makes one wonder was the “Fear of Spread of Godless Communism” the real reason for the West reneging on Yalta agreements and starting a Cold War against Russia in 1945, or the fact that Stalin in 1943 dissolved the Communist International and restored the Orthodox Church in Russia?
English Church before the Catholic conquest of Wilhelm the Bastard was practically indistinguishable from Christian Church of Constantinople and, accordingly, to modern Russian Orthodox Church
Day 7 of the eulogizing over much of the MSM for John McCain, a strong proponent of mass, industrialized slaughter of many hundreds of thousands of human beings.
platitudes like “great leader” “great American” along with crocodile tears from CNN/MSNBC liberal journalists. Government radio people were saying that “you were vicious if you didn’t acknowledge McCain was a great American.” Lockheed Martin even put out a statement calling McCain “an exceptionally courageous leader and a true patriot.”
The Deep State has lost one of its apostles.
President of the United States Donald Trump, whom Hillary Clinton has long suspected of spying for the US and against the World Government and the Deep State, refused to honor McCain as a War Hero.
Audie Murphy was a hero. We have diluted the word to the extent that everyone gets a trophy for participating. It has become an overused word like outrage. Everyone is outraged blah, blah, blah. McCain could not, or would not, even fix the Veteran’s Hospital in Phoenix where vets were dying while on a secret waiting list. He had opportunity. He was also a warmonger and aided keeping this country in these endless, useless wars where we only get blowback from our overseas ventures.
“That three million could turn into six million nationwide, as they’ll be swarming into the polling places like frenzied roaches, running from the Raid.“
This is the kind of dehumanizing language that leads to ethnic cleansing, terrorism, and genocide.
What kind of name is Arpaio? Sounds like you voted for an immigrant.
Good for you! In the spirit of Christmas PEACE AND LOVE welcome immigrants. We are a nation of immigrants processed through Ellis Island.
I concur. We should reactivate Ellis Island and the requirements immigrants had to achieve to get in. No coming into the country anywhere else but the island. Health checks. Background checks. No chain migration anymore. Also no social benefits. Come as you are. If you insist on peace and love, maybe that will happen too. But, if you have TB, no admittance.
Just as I thought! Tucsonspur voted for someone who benefited from chain migration. Arpaio is the child of two Italian-born parents. And, it turns out?—?not surprisingly?—?that Joe Arpaio’s grandma was a so-called chain migrant. Thank you, Tucsonspur!
Yes, his parents came here legally. Arpaio would arrest himself if he were here illegally. My kind of guy. He didn’t believe in focusing his resources on 85 y/o white grandmothers, as the Left would prefer, but rather on people who were the most likely to commit crime, strongly backed by reliable statistics.
And yes again, cleansing this nation to prevent further infection by the Left is nothing less than patriotic. You use the terror of muddled thinking and the deceit and deception of camouflaged coups to overthrow a fairly elected president. Terror, you say? Let it come upon you in torrents, and let me help seed the clouds!
Population-wide lunacies happen regularly and it can take quite some time to come back to the real world.
Nowadays, among those most “woke”, it’s an abiding belief that they are so personally fragile that they need sanctuary from all of life’s upsets, that no matter how trivial the incident it acquires the dimensions of “trauma”.
JHK and others talk about another of these delusions, that the ascendance of Trump heralds the coming of a fascist, authoritarian hell, but that his election is invalid by reason of Russian collusion, and if not collusion, then interference, and that by hook or by crook the reign of Trump must be curtailed.
There is some hope peeking around the edges of this madness, and you see it now and again in the writings of what can be fairly called “progressive” journalists, ie those thinking of themselves in the rational “main-stream”, never mind their excursions into unreason. And, when the insanity temporarily abates and reality intrudes, there’s an acknowledgement of the distress foisted on those who voted for Trump, that this distress was the reason for their vote, that theirs wasn’t a vote for racism or fascism or the many “isms” bandied about by the self-proclaimed intellectual class.
The question is simply one of time. The real world, with its imperatives, doesn’t abide descents into imaginary constructs, at any rate, not for very long.
If you want a definition of “space”, it’s the distance between objects. If you want a definition of “time”, it’s the distance between events.
The question of “time” then is really one of events. “Progressives,” and “wokesters” and campus FIGJAMS (Fuck I’m great, just ask me) and their ilk need to snap out of it and fast because events will overtake them. And those events have their origin in the real world.
I think that the most epic “bad faith” was the presentation of the “globalist” paradigm as one being generally beneficial to all classes of society as opposed to one that favored a narrow slice of the populace.
Part of the globalist agenda, the free movement of people, was an idea that was portrayed by its instigators as enlightened, moral, tolerant of varying cultures and mores, but in reality was intended to drive down the wages of American and western European workers. In the US it was the agenda of the Chamber of Commerce in its ruthless drive for profit and of the Democratic Party it its quest to win office.
If delusion is characteristic of this particular era in politics, intellectual dishonesty goes hand-in-hand. The dishonesty is in portraying people immigrating illegally as having equal standing with those immigrating legally. It’s not complicated, it’s just another ploy by the Chamber of Commerce and its ally the Democratic Party to push down wages.
If you want to know about Brexit and its reasons, and the upsurge of nationalist parties in Europe in general, look at policies that benefited privileged classes to the detriment of working people. It’s nothing more complicated than that, the difficulty of finding good paying work, the difficulty of finding reasonably priced accommodation, these difficulties exacerbated by the influx of folk from still poorer places.
And how exactly brexit could help “finding reasonably priced accommodation” or “good paying jobs”?
Volodya, do you read what you type?
On the other hand, importation of large quantities of Islamic militants to Europe could really create an existential threat to England.
This post by Finca is remarkable in its witlessness, even by troll standards, and that’s saying something.
Volodya, I do not consider you a troll – here you are mistaken, but sometimes you say something that makes me wonder.
Volodya
You can argue all you want about Brexit on ideological grounds – your views are your views.
But take a look at the growth in real disposable household income in the UK and the US since 1974.
https://www.inet.ox.ac.uk/news/Brexit
We joined the EU in 1973.
Pretty much all the things that really worried British people (inadequacy of services, dysfunctional housing market etc.) are down to the Westminster government. It will be fascinating to see who the Tory government will use as a scapegoat after next March.
Actually, no it won’t – it’ll be that bad EU for not giving us the cherry-picking trade deal WE felt entitled to. Then it’ll be ‘a price worth paying’ and ‘in 60 years we’ll see the benefit of Brexit’, etc. etc.
The UK is set to lose about 8% of its economy in the event of a no-deal Brexit, which is looking extremely likely. To put that in context the NHS costs just over 9% of GDP. Go figure…
So, GA, if Hitler in 1940 paid a small percentage of his European loot, including gold excavated from Jewish mouths, to English for accepting his primacy, in your opinion England should’ve surrender?
Churchill: We Shall Fight on the Beaches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkTw3_PmKtc
FInca, could you possibly ask me something relevant to the current situation? We’re not at war with the Germans, and long may the peace that postwar co-operation brought last.
I know full well that everything about the EU isn’t ideal, but I know that Brexit is a train wreck. Even its proponents know it is. Voters were lied to. If they’d known then what they know now, Brexit wouldn’t be happening.
People with money to burn, like yourself, aren’t the ones who pay for ideology. The ones who pay are the soon-to-be-ex-car workers in Sunderland, the bankrupt farmers, and NHS staff collapsing from exhaustion because EU doctors and nurses are going home in droves. You’ll be all right, Jack. You’re rich enough to pay for health insurance.
They just want to be able to pay their mortgages and to see a doctor when they need one. Are you going to step in and help them when the jobs have gone and Sunderland’s a wasteland again? They used to build ships before that all moved to Asia, in case you’re wondering – nothing to do with the EU – again.
Still, they’re used to being hungry up there – I’m sure you remember the Jarrow March.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarrow_March
And, Finca, you started your question with ‘So,’ as if it was something other than a complete non-sequitur.
We had to fight on the beaches in the 70s to get them cleaned up until the EU made our government do it. Otherwise a whole lot of them would still be filthy (I’m talking about sewage outfalls, not ice lolly sticks). The Tory party don’t give a monkey’s about seawater quality because they take their holidays in Tuscany and the Bahamas.
The New York Times has declared war on white people. Who would have thought?
Well, the m.o. of the Over-class has been to instigate conflict between people it considers inferior, a divide and rule strategy. The NY Times, being largely staffed by coastal White people, is part of that Over-class.
What they’re thinking is that it won’t be themselves involved in the fighting, that somehow they’re a different and distinguishable shade of White from the Fly-over Whites that are so held in contempt by the Coastal White Over-class.
What they’re convinced of is that they will somehow ride out the conflict, that somehow, despite they’re being mostly of that same race they’re targeting, they won’t be engulfed in the hostilities. This is not very swift IMO.
If they’re looking for trouble, they’ll find it, and not having any particular immunity to commonly available weaponry, they’ll come to regret fomenting this grief.
Soon the Masses Will Rise Up…
Wafers-
…and pigs will fly over the White House, in V-geese formation.
Thought you all might enjoy a bit of dark humor. What is more likely is that the US will commit political, social, economic, and cultural suicide, inasmuch as it is in the process of doing that right now, and “not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.”
Let us continue to document our downward spiral, amigos.
-mb
In one sense, not to worry since political, social, economic, and cultural suicide has been happening here for more than 200 years now. The worry now is running out of stuff and not preparing for it’s absence.
An interesting piece in Chronicles online by Mussolini biographer Nicholas Farrell. An Englishman living in Paris, he moved to Mussolini’s home village of Predappio in the Romagna, where he met his future wife, 15 years younger. He researched & wrote the book; they married, have six kids, bought an old farmhouse near Ravenna overlooking the sea, where they live to this day, enjoying the excellent local wine Sangiovese at Euro 2.50 per liter.
What he have to say about Fascism:
“I suppose I wanted to understand what the word fascism means—a word that has become an all-purpose term of abuse for something people, mainly liberals, do not like: i.e., something “far right.”
“What I discovered is that fascism is not far right at all. In fact it is an alternative far-left revolutionary movement.
“This is why the liberal-left were so angry with my biography.
“Mussolini was the leading light in Italy of international socialism (communism) who ditched that to invent national socialism (fascism) 100 years ago in 1919…
the war forced him once and for all to face the consequences of a fundamental fact of life that he had been aware of for years: People are loyal more to their nation than to their class. Yet according to classical Marxism, the historical process which would inevitably cause world revolution would mean the destruction of nations. This is why communism was called first, internationalism, then international socialism.
“… The Italian Socialist Party—which stuck to the strict neutrality policy demanded by Marxist orthodoxy—expelled him…
“To insist, as those in command of the cultural citadels of Europe and America still do, that Mussolini was the bought agent and creature of the banks and big business, and fascism a bourgeois counterrevolution—therefore ‘far Right’—is fake history.
“Yet so effective has this fake history been that the word fascist is synonymous with far-right, and it has become an all-purpose term of abuse, whereas the word communist has not. And now the word populist is the target of the same fake history machine.
“In fact, fascism has much more in common with communism than either has with capitalism or democracy. This is why—for instance—the Times regularly defined Soviet communism in the 1930’s as ‘fascist,’ and why the 1939 Nazi-Soviet Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was a far more natural alliance than the subsequent alliance between Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin.
“Fascism did not abolish the class war. It exchanged the Marxist class war for a new class war: that of producers (of whatever class) against parasites (of whatever class). The rich… tried in vain to tame it. But fascism regarded many (though not all) rich people—especially bankers and rentiers—as the parasitical class enemy par excellence.
“That fascism regarded the state as the solution, not the problem, separates it from the Anglo-American, or Anglo-Saxon, conservative and libertarian ‘bourgeois’ right for whom the opposite is the case.
“Mussolini realized that only national socialism and not international socialism was possible, and all major communist revolutions would prove him right. George Orwell, a patriotic socialist who despised communism, was one of the few on the left to accept this in a 1945 essay, ‘Notes on Nationalism,’ when he defined Soviet communism as nationalist.
“Human willpower, not the historical process, had to have the leading role in revolution—Mussolini realized—and a charismatic leader able via the press and the piazza to instill in the people religious faith in the revolution was therefore vital.
“He further realized that the revolution could in no way be a proletarian revolution, and thus he rejected the classical Marxist dogma that revolutionary consciousness was the exclusive possession of the proletariat. His was the correct revolutionary vision. In no 20th-century communist revolution would the proletariat play any significant role.
“Most of the key features of the communist revolutions in the 20th century were first set out by Mussolini in his fascist vision of socialism.
“The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that the birth of fascism a century ago has extraordinary resonance today. The tectonic tension between people and elites and between nations and empires that caused the First World War is once again playing havoc in Europe.
“Today’s elite—whether no-borders internationalists, global slave-labor capitalists, metropolitan thought-controllers, or E.U. imperialists—hiss the word populist as an all-purpose term of abuse. What they mean is, ‘i.e., fascist.’
“Yes, populist does mean ‘fascist,’ but not in the way they intend; it means ‘fascist’ in the way Mussolini intended.
“Populism attracts mass support, notably among the poor and the young, angry at the refusal of parliaments and traditional political parties to defend their jobs and their identity.
“Just as Italians of all classes flocked to fascism because it offered a dynamic alternative to the paralysis of the Italian parliamentary system and the contempt of the Italian Socialist Party for La Patria, so do they flock to populism.
“British and American populism is different from populism in Europe—for a simple reason.
Anglo-Saxon law is based on liberty; European law on rights. In Britain, for example, you are free (or were, until Britain joined the E.U.) to do something unless the state has passed a law that stops you. In Europe, you are not free to do anything until the state has granted you the right to do it.
“Britain’s supposed far right UKIP is quite distinct from fascism because it sees the state as the problem, not the solution. It wants liberty from the state, not rights from the state.
“But populist parties or movements in Europe—whether of the so-called far right or of the so-called far left—are direct descendants of fascism. The French Front National, for example, or the Greek Syriza, or the Italian “Vaffa!” (‘F-ck Off!’) MoVimento 5 Stelle, all—as fascists did—regard the state as the solution.
“What does unite all populist parties of the right (and Donald Trump in America) plus many populist parties of the left is a passionate determination to defend the nation, its culture and way of life, from today’s political, economic, and cultural imperialists and their institutions, such as the European Union, Goldman Sachs, CNN, and the BBC.
“There are, of course, crucial differences. Populism does not (yet) aim, as did fascism (and communism), to abolish democracy and replace it with dictatorship. It is patriotic (defensive). So far. Fascism (and communism), once in power, quickly became nationalist (aggressive)…
Great post. Have to remember that while history does rhyme, it never repeats. I think that while what faces the US will be nasty, it will have some attributes that set it apart. For one thing, while fascist Italy and Nazi Germany were expansionist or imperialist, I think that what is coming in the US will be the opposite.
I think also that the European crack-up of its empires will be reflected in the US. The mainland US is seldom thought of an an empire, but look at its giant land area and look at its component parts, not least those north and south of the Mason Dixon line. I think that the nations vs empires tensions your post referred to will be reflected in the US. You can see it nowadays in Washington, in the Red State-Blue State divide that everyone seems to want to rush headlong into.
The consolidation of the states into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it.
Robert E. Lee
You wanna some doom and gloom? Here’s something for ya:
The time is out of joint…
It’s not that the USSR was a paradise or hell on earth – both are wrong – but that the collapse of the Soviet Union was indeed a geopolitical catastrophe comparable only to the Fourth Crusade, part of which were the Wendish, Northern and Albigensian Crusades and which was stopped only by the invasion of Genghis Khan.
The problem for us is that the awareness of the catastrophe we experienced in the public consciousness is at the zero level; meanwhile it is not over for us, and for the rest of humanity.
Thank God, the American people inflicted a serious blow to the Black Project by choosing Donald Trump as president, but if we use the analogies of the Second World War, it’s not even Stalingrad and not a battle for Moscow; this is the Battle of Smolensk in July-September 1941.
And whether we like it or not, the battle for Moscow will again be near Moscow. And we, swiftly approaching this battle, still can not understand that modern Russia and the Russian Empire were bridged by the USSR, and for the whole world, including for the US, as Putin said in a conversation with Trump, Russia is a new formation that has no right to anything, and there is no Russophobia in that attitude – this is a reflection only of our hatred of our own past and completely childish attempts to treat our history as a French bun – pick out the raisins out and leave the bread.
The USSR was killed on January 25, 1982, and the armed people who killed the USSR saw millions of people living in the center of Moscow, but they are silent … for now all of us descendants of those who killed the USSR are lead to the repetition of this tragedy. And they do not even hide it, and even quite the opposite urge to repeat this experiment and even advertise the second act of this tragedy on Solovyov’s talk show.
HAMLET
Rest, rest, perturbed spirit!
They swear
So, gentlemen,
With all my love I do commend me to you:
And what so poor a man as Hamlet is
May do, to express his love and friending to you,
God willing, shall not lack. Let us go in together;
And still your fingers on your lips, I pray.
The time is out of joint: O cursed spite,
That ever I was born to set it right!
Nay, come, let’s go together.
a passionate determination to defend the nation, its culture and way of life –Tate
Indeed. I will defend America: TODAY’S AMERICA. America is founded on the ideals of equality of opportunity, not on blood or soil.
It matters not who your family was, or is, or what color your skin is… or what religion you practice… or if you do not believe in any religion… America IS multicultural, and racially and religiously pluralist to its very core… the founding principles and the USA Constitution guarantee life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Economically America is fascist: the government takes from the people and gives to the 1% multinational defense contractors. Multicultural and Trump fascist.
“as Putin said in a conversation with Trump…” –finca
Do you have a transcript of the Helsinki conversation? We in America were denied access. Only a translator was allowed to be present.
So we are dependent on Russia and Putin to know what Trump agreed to in the conversation. Trump’s love affair with Russia goes back to 1987, so Trump trusts Russia implicitly. Anything different means pee tape with hookers goes public. Putin has Trump over a barrel.
janet, did you just have a sex reassignment?
Has the first amendment just been repealed?
The insider joke is that Janet was in its previous online incarnation wpa_ccc, who apparently performed a virtual sex-changing operation to become Janet.
I kinda picked that up over the period that I’ve been here. I wouldn’t have a clue as I’m not remotely well versed in how such things work, so I give Janet the benefit of the doubt on that matter. Likewise even Janos, despite my recent semi-joke.
All I meant was that people keep going on about free speech, so I was wondering why it was such a big thing that someone would say something ‘agin’ the grain.
Although, why I of all people would be asking…
You are part of a Tribe – an ideological Anti-Tribe Tribe. A very powerful Tribe indeed. You like to be with the Winners I expect, Bin Ladin’s “strong horse”. Thus If we were to somehow win, and six months went by, etc, etc, cte, cte. Si Si No No!
God, I wish you’d stop talking tripe, Janos.
I’m fine with losers – they’re often nicer people. Personally, I’m just one of the ‘manages to keep head above water’ non-tribal tribe.
Have you ever watched ‘The Mission’? Beautiful film. You could have heard a pin drop in the cinema when I first saw it.
Sometimes your humanity obliges you to go down with the losers.
Yes, that’s what you tell yourself. It’s just coincidence that you’re on the same side as the UN, EU, Trilateralists, Bilderbergers, CFR – and the British equivalent that birthed it – I forget the letters.
Well it’s no use asking me because I don’t know what CFR is either. Or Trilateralists.
So, have you seen the film?
Beware the Cave of Caerbannog!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg
The Invincible White Bunny of Caerbannog!
Even a lot of OLD WHITE MEN banished from the BBC flee before its fury. Unaware they, it has emerged from its cave to redeem their pride. The stalwart Earl of Carter never did fiercer battle.
We are seeing a beautiful summer night. A little music outside on the back porch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hHXJXx0-gA&index=2&list=PLKiEBsOXrNf7Fj2UOXzYnI7SGoDg3zPcI
Thanks, BTKP, that was lovely last night 🙂 .
I didn’t know him – just looked him up on Wiki so thanks for broadening my mind.
And now you’ve put me in the mood for something from my extensive Mark Knopfler collection…
Mark Knofler is a new name to me. I will look him up, thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. : )
He was or perhaps still is quite the guitar player….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Wp2ASqyxI
Quite a topical comment under that clip, Walter:
“British musician touring on a bus writes the perfect song about the rise and fall of the industrial US midwest. True story.?”
Glad you like him.
BTKP
MK is getting on now, like the rest of us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Knopfler
He can be quite folky too. And I see he composed and produced the sound track to Wag the Dog, which seems to be popular on this site (to the point where I have acquired the DVD but not yet watched it!). So I’ll pay attention to the sound track now as well.
Some later stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8rF1mAzXRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKlSPPEaopE
And maybe you’ve heard Dire Straits’ Romeo and Juliet’?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmER493F4U&list=RDiJmER493F4U&start_radio=1
And if you liked that, check out a young Stephen Stills. Skip to the 32 minute mark to start and then if you like it watch it all….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKmlcb4HSLM
Nothing quite like a wailing guitar id there?
However, equality and charity and love were not the goals of Dr. Cone, who in his 1969 magnum opus Black Theology and Black Power wrote:
For white people, God’s reconciliation in Jesus Christ means that God has made black people a beautiful people; and if they are going to be in relationship with God, they must enter by means of their black brothers, who are a manifestation of God’s presence on earth. The assumption that one can know God without knowing blackness is the basic heresy of the white churches. They want God without blackness, Christ without obedience, love without death. What they fail to realize is that in America, God’s revelation on earth has always been black, red, or some other shocking shade, but never white. Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man’s depravity. God cannot be white even though white churches have portrayed him as white. When we look at what whiteness has done to the minds of men in this country, we can see clearly what the New Testament meant when it spoke of the principalities and powers. To speak of Satan and his powers becomes not just a way of speaking but a fact of reality. When we can see a people who are controlled by an ideology of whiteness, then we know what reconciliation must mean. The coming of Christ means a denial of what we thought we were. It means destroying the white devil in us. Reconciliation to God means that white people are prepared to deny themselves (whiteness), take up the cross (blackness) and follow Christ (black ghetto).
JS: Thank you brother, Jimmy (Cone). Do you White folks get it or should I ‘splain it to y’all? Blacks can do no wrong cuz they are Divine. Whites can do no right cuz they the Devil. Your only hope of salvation is to serve the incarnate God, the Black Man. Questions?
JS: Thank you, Gollum. I think I’ll stick with Aleister Crowley and Brothers Ozone and Malthus. I will teach them to raise a true Cone of Power unto the very stars. Aleister awaits us there.
26. Then saith the prophet and slave of the beauteous one: Who am I, and what shall be the sign? So she answered him, bendingdown, a lambent flame of blue, all-touching, all penetrant, her lovely hands upon the black earth, & her lithe body arched for love, and her soft feet not hurting the little flowers: Thou knowest! And the sign shall be my ecstasy, the consciousness of the continuity of existence, the omnipresence of my body.
27. Then the priest answered & said unto the Queen of Space, kissing her lovely brows, and the dew of her light bathing his whole body in a sweet-smelling perfume of sweat: O Nuit, continuous one of Heaven, let it be ever thus; that men speak not of Thee as One but as None; and let them speak not of thee at all, since thou art continuous!
28. None, breathed the light, faint & faery, of the stars, and two.
29. For I am divided for love’s sake, for the chance of union.
30. This is the creation of the world, that the pain of division is as nothing, and the joy of dissolution all.
31. For these fools of men and their woes care not thou at all! They feel little; what is, is balanced by weak joys; but ye are my chosen ones.
32. Obey my prophet! follow out the ordeals of my knowledge! seek me only! Then the joys of my love will redeem ye from all pain. This is so: I swear it by the vault of my body; by my sacred heart and tongue; by all I can give, by all I desire of ye all.
33. Then the priest fell into a deep trance or swoon, & said unto the Queen of Heaven; Write unto us the ordeals; write unto us the rituals; write unto us the law!
34. But she said: the ordeals I write not: the rituals shall be half known and half concealed: the Law is for all.
JS: from the first chapter of the Book of the Law received by Rose Crowley and transcribed by her husband, Aleister Crowley. A superb work of poetry if nothing else. Keats said that Truth is Beauty and Beauty, Truth. And that is all we can know and all we need know here on Earth. I don’t believe that, but it’s a beautiful sentiment. In some sense God is Beauty, but He is also Truth. And Love. And Will. A woman can be very beautiful but also be a liar and thus inwardly ugly because she denies Truth. There are many examples. All the Divine elements must be there in some sense for God to be present. And he can’t be in the world because it is flawed by its very nature. But an old woman can be very ugly outwardly but very beautiful inwardly. That is more like it, more the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
” A superb work of poetry if nothing else”
Janos,
On this we can all agree…also very hard to masturbate to….”
Just supposin’
As John Updike once said, let’s see what the blacks can do with this circus – they’re the newest thing.
?Postcard from Sheinkin Street – akmo
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Lots of motor scooters and lots of smoking.
And lots of buzz and busy-ness to keep you from thinking life might not always be about shopping and fancy coffee. But that’s the same anywhere (but not Rannoch Moor, which brings you back to earthy reality somewhat).
Or maybe Israel will be exceptional again. Google tells me it gets its oil from Iraqi Kurdistan and Azerbaijan. So, hmmm… not sure what that tells me.
Oddly, when you type in ‘where does Israel get…?’, the top question is ‘its oil’! So other people seem to be wondering too.
The story with the War of the Roses in England
The peculiarity of England is that historically it is home to three(!) Orthodox Christian churches:
1. The semi-legendary Church of England, according to legend founded by Joseph of Arimathea, whose ship with refugees from Judea, among whom were relatives of Christ, repeated the great Phoenician path and landed on the English coast near the Glastonbury Monastery, where in the Bronze Age there were tin mines that turned the city of Tire to what now the city of New York is. And his way is marked by the legend of the arrival of those relatives of Christ, which I do not specifically want to talk about in this post, so as not to pour water on Dan Brown’s mill.
Even if these relatives were not there, Joseph of Arimathea definitely was, and the English living in Cornwall on this basis quite reasonably consider their Church the oldest on the planet, and this actually played a decisive role in the War of the Roses.
2. The Celtic Church of the Britons (also Welsh), which is part of the Orthodoxy of St. Patrick. In addition, part of the Orthodoxy of St. Patrick was the Anglo-Saxon Church that arose around the Irish monasteries, one of which was a monastery on the Holy Island of Lindisfarne in the kingdom of Northumbria, founded by St. Aidan in 636.
3. The Anglo-Saxon church, which arose from the so-called mission of Pope Gregory, which in 606 was led by Augustine of Canterbury, and which is now traditionally headed by the English monarch and the highest hierarch of the Anglican Church is the Bishop of Canterbury.
The mission included Pauline of York, who was invited by King Edwin and founded the first episcopal chair in York ten years before St. Aidan, but something went wrong with the Yorkians and after the death of King Edwin he left York, and his mission after this has died out.
Actually, the War of the Roses began with the Bede the Venerable, who in the first half of the 8th century was sent to York to plant Canterbury Christianity, and in his spare time he composed chronicles of the Christian kings of England, naturally in the interests of his mission.
Subsequently, these chronicles formed the basis of Catholicism, greatly contributing to the “mission” of William the Conqueror and that conflict in France between the abbot Suger and St. Bernard of Clairvaux, that spawned the chain of Northern Crusades, the Fourth Crusade, the Albigensian Crusade, the Hundred Years War, the War of the Roses and, very likely, the Tatar-Mongol invasion.
Meanwhile, the connection between the current situation in Russia and the War of the Roses in England is not limited to its relationship with the War of the Roses in the United States, which in itself is purely a continuation of the same war in England in the second half of the 15th century.
The most interesting thing is that this analogy between today’s Russia and England of the 15th century helps to better understand what is happening in the USA now, very successfully completing the can opener of the New York rumors that I’m threatening to use for two weeks now against a tin can of American news and still can not catch up with them, since they (the news) went into a gallop.
I will also write about Medvedev and Putin, but after telling how the Red Welsh Dragon settled in Russia for 65 years, having defeated the prey first from the monastery of Mont-Saint-Michel, and then from the Sadducees of Crimea, who now retaliate in revenge in Kiev and in Donetsk. They struck a particularly terrible blow yesterday, a terrible strategic choice of place and time, and when it became known about the murder of Zakharchenko, I was very upset, because my prediction was so promptly fulfilled:
Indeed, the state of Russian society is constantly monitored and sanctions are imposed in the expectation of a drop in the standard of living in Russia and the related decline in the popularity of Vladimir Putin. And the more this popularity in the beginning, at the moment of the decision’s taking, the less hope that the sanctions will prove effective.
http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/meanwhile-out-in-left-field/#comment-366432
Ukraine crisis: Blast kills top Donetsk rebel Zakharchenko
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45371270
Red Welsh Dragon
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Welsh_dragon.svg
The connection of the White Rose of York with the holy island of Lindisfarne and the Irish Orthodoxy of St. William of York does not require comments, but the connection between Lancaster and Canterbury Orthodoxy is not so obvious and hidden in the tomb of the founder of the Lancaster dynasty of the kings of England, Henry IV Bolingbroke.
Unlike the rest of the English kings, Henry IV is buried not in Westminster Abbey, but in Canterbury, next to the tomb of Thomas Becket, who was for Henry IV the object of great attachment and veneration. His grave is decorated with bas-reliefs depicting the life and deeds of Saint Thomas Becket and these reliefs make one pay attention to the education of Thomas Becket, since it is in him that one can find a connection with what I now call the Western Red Project.
Indeed, Thomas Becket at the age of 20 turned out in Paris at the very moment when Saint Bernard of Clairvaux condemned as a heretic creator of Western Red Project Pierre Abelard, but the most interesting is that it was then that Abbot Suger presented King Louis VII with the world’s first window in shape of a rose in the first in the world Gothic cathedral of Saint-Denis and there is every reason to believe that Abbot Suger made Thomas Becket the guardian of the secret of his chalice and his eagle, and this alone means that when Thomas Becket became the representative of Archbishop Theobald von Bec in Rome, he met with the head of the first Communist republic of Rome, disciple of Pierre Abelard, Arnold of Brescia.
Subsequently, some notes about this meeting first turned up at the Red Welsh Dragon Henry IV, and then in the British Library and at some point caught the eye first of Karl Marx, and then of Vladimir Lenin. Reminder – Karl Marx became communist only after spending some time in the British Library.
This is how the Red Welsh Dragon settled for 65 years in Russia and as a result, now in Russia, as in England in the 15th century, there are three Orthodox churches: the Red of Metropolitan Sergius, the White Kiev Pechersk Lavra and the Black of Metropolitan Agafangel, and three world projects are ready to tell these churches what to do next.
“Most controversial is the evolutionary question. I have done a great deal of work on Darwin and can say with some assurance that Darwin did not derive his theory from nature but rather superimposed a certain philosophical world-view on nature and spent 20 years trying to gather the facts to make it stick.” — Immanuel Velikovsky
Velikovsky is much too kind to these people. Perhaps he did not perceive who these people are and who is running the show.
EVERYTHING is political. Science, history, news, schooling, culture, industry, war, food production, medicine.. EVERYTHING !!!
Evolution, like everything else we are made to believe in, is Vatican political dogma and nothing else.
EVERYTHING we are made to know is propagated in bad faith and is meant to ensnare us in Vatican/Roman Satanic lies and genocidal machinations.
Darwin managed to create the most anti-Christian “scientific” theory which is a foundation of modern days “market economy”, the survival of the fittest, and that is following his ideas people like Chubais in Russia, who in response to question “what will happen to Russian pensioners in view of his reforms” simply and quite honestly said “They will die”.
Yes, they will die and hence stop buying food, and that will deal a terrible blow to the natural food production in Russia, but most importantly, they will be unable to pass healthy eating culture to the next generation of Russians, who will instead start buying cheap genetically-modified crap in bright candy-wrappers.
The time is out of joint, indeed!
“but most importantly, they will be unable to pass healthy eating culture to the next generation of Russians, who will instead start buying cheap genetically-modified crap in bright candy-wrappers.”
FInca
It is my view that one should not raise the pension age so that vast numbers of aspiring male pensioners will never reach it.
HOWEVER, while I don’t know much about the healthy eating culture of the generation of Russians in question, I do know, as most people do, that (leaving aside work accidents and the effects of a hard life) it’s the unhealthy drinking culture of that generation of men which is sweeping them to an early grave.
I’m the lefty here – it shouldn’t be me who’s saying this. I’m supposed to be the over tolerant one, not you.
If these men were African Americans you’d be telling them to get themselves sorted out and quite boozing.
Although I don’t mind which side pushes the government to make their working lives less hazardous. Putin could throw in some of his personal savings to that effect, possibly.
*quit* boozing
the unhealthy drinking culture of that generation of men which is sweeping them to an early grave
Can’t argue with you in that regard, but surprisingly enough the alcohol consumption in Russia among the younger generation is noticeably going down.
However, one thing does not diminish the significance of the healthy eating culture, which I could formulate in a simple Finca Rule :
Don’t eat anything that have not existed 100 years ago!
I think I could go along with that, Finca. Glad we agree on something 🙂 .
Yes, the youngsters here are drinking less too. It’s the 50- and 60-somethings that are apparently the problem, hiding behind closed doors at wine o’clock.
Darwin managed to create the most anti-Christian “scientific” theory ..
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Right. I guess this is just coincidence then:
The Vatican claims Darwin’s theory of evolution is compatible with Christianity – Telegraph
— https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/4588289/The-Vatican-claims-Darwins-theory-of-evolution-is-compatible-with-Christianity.html
I prefer your posts that link to inspired use of resources, akmofo.
Finding Nemo:
— https://youtu.be/fLX8qR1pmZI
🙂
That’s more like it…
An epitaph for the Scottish people: They could have made the bog bloom but didn’t. Or perhaps just, “They liked Blacks more than themselves.”
Talk to the Wind
— https://youtu.be/r9kpckEwOkg
Janos, do come to Scotland and see how many black people there are compared to white people.
Oops, I forgot, you can’t can you, because of all those lists you’re on. Wave the first amendment at them and see how you get on. Perhaps we could involve the Free Tommy/Stephen folks and get you martyr status.
And wildernesses matter. And you have no clue what you’re talking about.
That’s ok, Mrs Green. Nathaniel (God has given me), the missing Hebrew speaking Black person from Scotland, is now where god wants him — on Ben-Yehuda Street (Son of Judah Street), Jerusalem, Israel.
— https://youtu.be/BS-xvLPrPp0
🙂
Your endorsement of travel restrictions for citizens is noted.
I’m not endorsing them – I’m extrapolating from what someone on here told me ages ago. They said you were likely on so many lists in your country that you’d be unable to travel.
You’ll know more about that than me, obviously, but I can enjoy a laugh in the meantime.
If you are prepared to behave yourself, you’re more than welcome. I think it would be extremely useful for some people on here to actually see the places they talk about with such supposed knowledge.
Akmofo now knows what a not terribly aesthetically impressive but clearly very friendly bit of central Manchester looks like. And he liked what he saw…
I didn’t even see a veil, let alone a burka – and it was…you know…Manchester.
Didn’t mean a veil – meant a headscarf. That makes no sense…
Another sunday, another New York Times.
Sunday Review features Bethany Mclean (author of Saudi America) her article on fracking insolvency “the next financial crisis lurks underground), am article on 43 year old retirees from the software industry (“I was waiting my life”), and Allyson Hobbs “Summer Road tripping while black”. Haven’t even touched the A section but I fully expect the usual Pulitzer caliber journalism.
What are you degenerates consuming today?
I was just going to say even The Graun devoted its periodic ‘long read’ article to this subject but when I looked just now it’s the same author as yours.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/30/how-the-us-fracking-boom-almost-fell-apart
I’d bookmarked it for another day.
Ehh…. the Guardian. You should take stock of your media choices and go physical. By handling actual, physical paper your experience of digesting news will be much more efficient with a high quality source like The New York Times.
Remember, even reading just one whole New York Times newspaper a week boosts your IQ by 10-12 points.
Probably not that efficient if I have to get it sent from the US.
Have you got shares or something?
And it’s not really my media choice – it’s just handy. And I read other things. Nothing related to Murdoch though.
Who is this shameless shill for the “newspaper of record?”
“Remember, even reading just one whole New York Times newspaper a week boosts your IQ by 10-12 points.”
Although I’m not familiar with the NYT beyond a couple of linked articles, so am in no position to hazard any judgement, I’ve suspected for some time that your enthusiastic endorsements were ironic, with the ambiguity making me feel dimmer than usual.
However this bit feels like a clue thrown out for the slow of hearing, so yeah…I’m glad I picked up on the irony earlier, since my wattage feels a bit healthier for the realisation.
But I’m still not in a position to judge without that extensive reading.
And don’t get how an article by Bethany Mclean in the NYT would be superior to an article by Bethany Mclean in the Graun.
And maybe my post can be read ironically too if one chooses.
*I* don’t get…
Idris Elba is to an Englishman as a coyote is to a wolf.
What is the Fst? Fst is an abbreviation for the Fixation Index. The Fixation Index is a measure of population differentiation due to genetic structure. Presented as a table, it denotes the genetic “distance” between any two populations of living things based on genetic polymorphism data.
According to Wikipedia, Fst between Europeans (CEU) & sub-Saharan Africans (YRI {Yoruba tribe}) is 0.153.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixation_index#Autosomal_genetic_distances_based_on_SNPs
The Fst between North American wolves (NAGW) & coyotes (REF) is coincidentally also 0.153 according to an analysis of their genomes.
https://www.fws.gov/southeast/pdf/publication/red-wolf-genetics-research-von-holdt.pdf
Coyotes (Canis latrans) can interbreed with North American wolves (Canis lupus) to produce fertile offspring, colloquially known as “coy-wolves.” These coy-wolves are adapted to life in the big city, parasitically preying on pet populations & raiding garbage cans & other discarded human food. They thrive under these conditions like many other non-productive breeders living in urban environments.
Yes, I was just musing on this last night. Much evidence shows that our ancestors left from Africa a hundred thousand or so years ago. But there’s no evidence they were Negroes per se. Certainly they must have had dark skin, but that’s something different. Moreoever, “ghosts” of vanished hominids have been found in the African genotype. They bred down with something, at least in certain places. These ghosts are not found in European populations. We bred a bit with Neanderthal, a much higher type with a brain larger than our current one. In any case, we are not descended from Negroes at all.
Megan Markle is a big step down, even though she is good looking – especially after all the work she’s had done; work made possible by the genius of the White Man.
One is reminded of the Lateran Council. And no doubt in one of these urban dens of iniquity, there is a young colored girl innocently named Latrina. I’m going to write a novel about her, reinventing myself in the process. It will be a latter day “There is a Rose in Spanish Harlem”.
You should read up on this stuff, they were people of the coast.
Start with this guy.
A radio link, I was looking for Spencer’s most recent stuff, maybe somebody else can do better.
Spencer on a radio link.
Seems the time-line is more compressed than you thought. As far as skin actual pigmentation goes it only takes the Vitamin D deficiency 80 generations to cull a local population to the color appropriate to the latitude in which they hunt and forage. Melanin is the natural sunscreen. You’d fry if your were naked outside. The right darkness for the right latitude is the human condition because we have naked skin. Go north and you need less melanin for vitamin D production. Go south and you need more for sunscreen.
The ancestral Adam lived only about sixty thousand years ago. 2000 generations.
In answer to your mental pondering your ancestors were negros sixty thousand years ago because of where they lived. Hershey chocolate dark. Deal with it.
No, you see if we were descended from them, we’d have what they have in ourselves. But we don’t so we aren’t. But your desperation to be of the Black Gods is noted. Just like those race denying Whites who boast of the Indian* (feather) ancestry.
Not Native American. Whites are the Native Americans since we founded and created this Nation.
K-Dog is largely correct. Our DNA isn’t constant, it changes with the environment. Not only that, but gene expression also changes with the environment. Our human DNA changes as our bacterial makeup and its DNA changes. These are facts. Nazi race theories are false.
Going back far enough, we have black ancestry, but we don’t have Negro ancestry. Or at least not Bantu Negro ancestry. The vast majority of the sub-Saharan ethnic groups in existence today are peoples of Bantu descent.
The much-bruited “genetic diversity” of sub-Saharan Africa is due to some very tiny remnant populations such as the Khoi & San bushmen & the Pygmies. That’s where the diversity lies.
The Bantus, from which all American blacks derive their ancestry, have very little genetic diversity among themselves & they are not the ancestors of white Europeans.
This is laid out in the recent book incorporating the latest insights in genetic science by David Reich, “Who We Are and How We Got Here” published in 2018.
“three world projects are ready to tell these churches what to do next” –finca
This is not true, finca. And even if it was it is meaningless. Let’s get real about the Eastern Orthodox Church.
Islam: 1.5 billion
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
Eastern Orthodox Church: 250 million
You just do not understand the meaning of the word “world project”. The Church can not be a world project.
I cannot get into this site on my home computer – error 404. So I am using a tablet here. I think this Mishra character used to write for the New Yorker and Jordan Peterson once called him a sanctimonious pr*ck and said he would give him a good slap if he found himself in a room with him. I’d say JP would be a good judge of character.
The Pope and Hierarchy needs you now more than ever. They’re looking for a few good men…
Unbelievable!
Now they tell us there were no hearings. The FISA Court was purely a rubber stamp job.
— https://youtu.be/EbhMv28js60
Just unbelievable! So unbelievable I don’t believe it. I want to know who are the judges responsible and why are they not being investigated regards this criminality as they sit in jail.
Not a rubber stamp job. Getting a FISA warrant is an ex parte process by which state and federal law enforcement agencies request warrants under Title III of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968. (18 Pub. L. No. 90-351, tit. III, 82 Stat. 197, 211-25 (codified as amended at 18 U.S.C. §§ 2510-2520 (2012)
To receive a Title III warrant, the agency must show a federal district judge that there is probable cause to believe that a crime was or will be committed. As with the FISC, the Title III process allows the judge to seek “additional testimony or documentary evidence in support of the application” as she deems necessary. (18 U.S.C. § 2518).
And, as with the FISC, statistics on Title III wiretaps are reported annually to Congress.
What was supposed to happen and what actually did happen is so out of whack, that for me the whole presumption of innocence no longer applies. I want to know who these secret judges are, what is their history, who they were in contact with. I want to know their financial connections and history, and I want them to stand on trial to explain why they have not taken any disciplinary actions against those who have so purposely committed fraud on their court. And while we’re waiting on these answers, I want them “judges” sitting in jail in solitary confinement, and suffer the same treatment as their victims had to suffer.
Secret Tribunals of Westphalia – the feared and self-appointed judicial group who passed judgment and performed executions in a time of lawlessness in Germany.
Very astute of you to understand that the presumption of innocence has gone the way of the Dodo bird. Guilt by accusation is the replacement and it offers some seriously profitable rewards in the “legal” system. First, it is far easier to do, just sing out an accusation against you foe and bingo, they are screwed. Instead of the state having to prove that you are guilty, (at the state’s expense), YOU have to prove that you are innocent at YOUR expense. A person does not need to have graduated from Harvard to understand the HUGE implication of THAT degradation.
Judges are elected or appointed in many places you say? Oh boy, how fair is that? Just like George Carlin used to say, “The table is tilted folks, the game is rigged and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeRd0EJbkC0
In the end, the only way out is to stay small, avoid detection. Do not become a target. Good luck.
Cowardice is death. Even if you get to live for another minute, you are already dead. No Walter, the only way out is to take over the system; to expose it for what it is, and replace it with what it should be.
Staying small does not infer cowardice, rather it promotes avoiding conflict with the system, camouflage, staying off the radar, for there can peace be had. If such efforts fail and detection is upon you then you are faced with a choice between cowardice and redemption and THAT, my friend is when we Quit Ye Like Men, or grovel like dogs. The choice may appear frightening, but in reality, there is only one way to chose, at least for some. .
Because outright confiscation has been blocked for now (presumably by one of President Trump’s disapproving tweets), look for the dispossession of white farmers in SA to proceed along a more devious path. In all likelihood, this will involve a scheme to at first separate control from ownership, accompanied by a corrupt & abusive program ushered in with much fanfare to have the white farmers train their ostensible black replacements.
This was hinted at last week when Montfort Mlachila, South African representative for the IMF, stated that “There is a need to have a transparent, rules-based, and constitutional process that leads to desirable outcomes. It is particularly important not to undermine agricultural production and food security.”
This means that for now white farmers have probably gained a reprieve. They will probably retain management control of their operations & share in at least some of the profits. This will bind them to their land in a frog-boiling exercise. Ownership will be transferred to certain highly connected cronies within the ruling black elite of the ANC in order to satisfy the “black-ownership” conundrum. Naturally, the mass of landless blacks will not enjoy any of the largesse (which will at least avert immediate disaster.) And this will be only a temporary face-saving outcome. The ultimate goal is still to dispossess the white farmers. Once the blacks ensconced in ownership positions become frustrated by the inability of their chosen management trainees to actually manage & operate the farms, they will quickly complete the final take-over & full dispossession of the white farmers.
“The ultimate goal is still to dispossess the white farmers.” –Tate
What evidence do you have? Janos has been talking about the “extermination” of white farmers in South Africa for more than ten years. It is simply not happening. Nor will it happen. The Black government has not interest in dispossessing white farmers of their land.
On 22 August 2018, U.S. President Donald Trump tweeted criticism of the South African government for their plans to redistribute land to Black South Africans who were institutionally disenfranchised under that country’s apartheid system spreading the LIE about “South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers”. Trump is a source of FAKE NEWS.
The “large scale killings” phrase included in Trump’s tweet was an invocation of “white genocide,” a conspiracy theory popular among white supremacists who have for years been attempting to advance the baseless claim that white South African farmers are being systematically murdered en masse. It is an idea that until now has existed mainly on the fringes, fostered by proponents including white nationalist and former Klansman David Duke.
“What particularly pleased [white supremacists like Duke] was the notion that if Trump said it, lots of conservatives would start to believe it, whereas they themselves have been having trouble getting widespread support for this notion,” said Mark Pitcavage, senior research fellow for the Center on Extremism and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).
Sure enough, white supremacist Richard Spencer also tweeted his support for Trump’s “opening up” the conversation about “the plight of White South Africans”.
Despite President Trump’s directive to Secretary of State Pompeo to investigate, no evidence documents an epidemic of murders targeting white South African farmers because of their race. The number of farm murders in South Africa hit a 30-year low point in 2017-18, according to a report released by the South African Agricultural Industry (AgriSA) that cited South African police data. Overall, farm attacks have also been on a general decline after spiking in 2001-02.
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