JHK’s Three-Act Play
A Martian psychoanalyst observing the US Superbowl on TV would be shocked by the vicious animal spirits emanating from that spectacle, starting with the triumphal trumpet blasts borrowed straight from the old 1950s Hollywood epic movies echoing the prideful mis-steps of ancient Rome, along with the by-now clichéd CGI trick in the opening credits of gleaming metallic heraldic insignia spun into a military cordon of stars so as to protect the tender collective ego of this anxious nation. America wears its zeitgeist plastered right on its sweaty forehead.
Everybody knows that the commercial messages between the play-action amount to a national Rorschach test, and this year’s collection made us look more psychopathic than ever – starting with the advertisement for the Chevy Silverado: Fade in on a devastated nameless American city, the buildings smashed, the streets littered with debris, a gray ash coating over everything, and no living creatures in evidence…. A newspaper headline proclaims “2012 Mayan Apocalypse….” How reassuring! Wait! Something stirs behind a heap of rubble… it cracks open… and out drives a plucky American male lumpen “worker” dude behind the wheel of a gleaming giant pickup truck. He is soon joined by other men and their trucks, all of them blithely unfazed by the end-of-the-world.
A curious scenario. What’s the take away? I wondered, of course, where these plucky fellows would look for their next fill-up in the devastated landscape. Surely the service stations would miss the next scheduled fuel truck delivery. Are American men not expected to think beyond the immediate moment they are in? Are they on an intellectual level with lemurs and Holstein steers?
The Superbowl pageant is a window into the condition of American manhood, and the view is pretty pathetic. It’s a picture of men who feel so weak, insecure, and fearful that they have to compensate with fantasies of limitless destructive power. Ads for several new movies and (I think) video games followed the Silverado apocalypse romp. There were unifying themes throughout. All depicted the problems of life as 1) coming from outside our own society (or world); 2) in the form of aliens who wield mystifying technological destructive power; and 3) leaving a few human remnants on a smoldering landscape after a cosmic showdown.
These onslaughts from elsewhere in the universe always end with superior American guile and the latest technology defeating the purblind invaders. The aliens are vanquished by Apple computers, Air Force stunt pilots, and a little extra help from God Almighty, who is surely on our side. From these realms of engineered grandiosity, we slip in and out of the grinding ground game in Lucas Oil stadium in Indianapolis, another pseudo-military operation loaded with acronyms and jargon intended to confer an illusion of control and competence.
The reality out there in “flyover” land is an audience of diabetic fat men in clownish loungewear slouched on sofas in foreclosed houses enjoying stupendous portions of cheesy and lard-laden foodstuffs between cigarettes and beers. They have a lot to worry about and they have no idea how they might overcome their financial, familial, and medical problems. The real onslaughts besetting the nation in realms such as banking fraud, money in politics, peak oil, climate uncertainty, and economic contraction are at once too complex for the diabetic fat men to comprehend, and grossly misreported in the public arena, were Cable TV and newspapers work the levers of propaganda for one client or another.
Then there was the grotesque half-time extravaganza featuring Madonna, which was a weird parallel commentary on the state of American womanhood. Pretending to be ageless and indomitable, the old trooper performed a variety of standing crotch-locks on her Praetorian guard of hoofers and then stumbled more than once on the ridiculous bleacher stage-set that looked as if was designed to trip the performers up. Message to American women: be sluts as long as you possibly can because there is nothing else for you in this culture. I couldn’t help thinking that American chanteuses of yesteryear – say, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, Carole King – sang about adult problems and emotions with a greater thematic range, and would never have subjected themselves to such a display of pitiful narcissism. (Did anyone notice that Madonna’s corps de ballet all wore her monogram on their loincloths?) America needs a prayer, all right, but I don’t think they’ll find it by calling Madonna’s name.
Meanwhile, in whatever remains of the Real World, we have a couple of things to be concerned about this week. One is the ultimatum tendered to Greece by the Lords of Euroland to make a deal or die-dog-die. Last time I checked, they had until 11 a.m. today Berlin time to reply… and nothing happened.
The other matter is the pending possible robo-signing settlement with the TBTF banks, which is designed to let them off the hook for any and all future lawsuits in this matter if they pay a penny-ante fine. This latest ghastly trespass of the rule-of-law is a joint project of the Obama White House and 50 states attorneys general in an epic act of perfidy. You can read about it at Yves Smith’s excellent Naked Capitalism blog.
Your country is being stolen from you. I hope you are getting ready to re-occupy it with your bodies and minds. Don’t plan on giant magical robots flying to your rescue.
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Dear Jim,
What a mess!!
http://kulturcritic.wordpress.com/posts/the-whore-of-babylon/
And the non-winter of 2011-2012 continues here in the lower 48 as we continue to belch carbon into our fragile atmosphere!
On top of all that, NBC technology was unable to prevent the millions of viewers from seeing M.I.A. flipping them the middle finger.
James,
A little bit on why and how we need to prepare for the upcoming, localized issues:
http://subversesjournal.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/state-city/
I brainwashed myself some forty years back to just not see or hear commercials. At most, I hit the mute button. I commonly read a page or three in whatever book I have with me.
Halftime? There was an interesting program about the Serengeti airing at that time. I don’t have a clue as to what half-time was about.
As far as the actual game itself, it was pretty good. Relatively few errors and penalties and the outcome was in doubt until very late in the game.
All I watched was the game itself. All the rest of the stuff folks worry about? Yo no se nada…
Good lord, was that Chevy Silverado for real? A big, fat not so subliminal message of denial there.
I miss all that, thank heavens, not having a TV, I’m allergic to it.
Some of us are living a completely different reality already, one a little less in-toxic-ated but readily mobile.
http;//alttransbikes.blogspot.com
As both an ardent reader and longtime follower my only complaint about todays article is that our country has already been stolen.
http://alttransbikes.blogspot.com
“an audience of diabetic fat men in clownish loungewear slouched on sofas in foreclosed houses enjoying stupendous portions of cheesy and lard-laden foodstuffs between cigarettes and beers.”
I would add: waiting for NASCAR and Dancing with the Dunskys to reappear like magic on their flat screen technology now, also like magic, costing them 30%+ per month on the unpaid credit card balance to lul them into a catatonic stupor.
Poetry none-the-less.
Clint Eastwood, the quickly aging great-grandpa crimefighter and general hard ass of yesteryear was equally pathetic in his let’s go to ‘morning – in – America meme.
America is Dead. No Saving IT.
PUNISH THE GUILTY. DO IT NOW.
I noticed and commented on the apocalypse themed ads too. The Group Fantasy was in plain site last evening. Be prepared for blazing balls from the sky. But don’t look at what is happening in the halls of power.
I began my day with a trip to the shopping mall and compounded the surrealness with watching the Super Bowl. Good times. Laughing while Rome is burning. What else are you going to do? Take all this seriously? Nah.
You have to admit it was good game. Pageantry not withstanding.
Aimlow Joe was here
http://www.aimlow.com
I just could’t wait for your post super bowl post and you did not disappoint. We sat with the wood stove fire from wood I split, eating spagetti with sauce and garlic we grew, and a fab pumpkin pie also from the garden, not too bad a mid winter bacchanal. I loved the half time, very clever and over the top and thought the old gal in fine form and voice. The conflation of Rome and Football perfect. Our youth are drawn to dark themes, skulls, spikes etc. They have sub consciously absorbed the situation.
what game ?
As Jim has long predicted, the dismantling of suburban shopping has begun. Check out an article in the NYS Times, “How About Gardening or Golfing at the Mall?”
In part, ‘Malls, over the last 50 years, have gone from the community center in some cities to a relic of the way people once wanted to shop.” Sound familiar?
“Sears Holdings is closing up to 120 stores, Gap Inc. 200 stores and Talbots 110. Abercrombie & Fitch closed 50 stores last year, Hot Topic, almost the same number. Chains that have filed for bankruptcy in recent years, like Blockbuster, Anchor Blue, Circuit City and Borders, have left hundreds of stores lying vacant in malls across the country.”
“A new enclosed mall has not opened in the United States since 2006.”
“The efforts reflect a shift in how Americans want to shop today: rather than going to big, overwhelming malls, many prefer places where stores can be entered from the street, featuring restaurants, entertainment and other Main Street mainstays. Also, as commuters in urban areas shift to public transportation, the giant parking lots are no longer needed.”
The great shift is beginning for economic reasons, which is always why shifts happen.
Yes, it seemed that the Superbowl program was produced from soup to nuts to cater to those who still, after decades, think that the things we thought were truth-based in, say, the fifties, are still true. You’d think that Viet Nam would have opened more eyes than it did.
http://www.Thesisa.org/
Now I’m sorry I didn’t watch the Superbowel.
And then there was Clint Eastwood emerging from the mist to proclaim that an America down and out like Detroit will be reborn to drive Dodge vehicles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQIMGV5vtd4
I think the Magic robots will actually be small, and coming to attack, not rescue…
Had a solar booth last weekend, and spoke with several hundred of the ~25k people that came through. Lots of people get ‘it’ surprisingly, yet a hefty percentage remains totally clueless of how things work and what is likely to come. Sad. I continue to teach as many who want to listen…
Cheers Clusterfuckers.
PUSH ON. DO GOOD. KEEP SMILING.
I watched a bit of the pre-game show, found it boring, and switched over to CNN as I corrected my students’ assignments. I then completely ignored the Super Bowl as I instead watched my wife play a video game. It was more entertaining and I could cheer her on. Besides, I’m a Patriots fan and they lost. I was spared watching that, too.
Over at Crazy Eddie’s Motie News, I posted about the massive greenwashing the NFL put on as part of its Super Bowl community outreach (PR campaign). Despite it being greenwashing, at least it was an attempt at being sustainable, no matter how oxymoronic that might be in conjunction with a celebration of excess like the Super Bowl. I also pointed out how the GOP in general and Newt Gingrich in particular are now fully owning being the party of maniacs who promise their voters that they will be able to maintain the supposed entitlements of suburbia, right down to the McMansions, cars, and commutes, just as James predicted nearly a decade ago. Newt Gingrich went so far as to hate on subways and subway riders as elite snobs in contrast to the regular folks out in the suburbs.
I also posted some scenery porn of Yosemite, an update on my efforts to reduce my driving, Groundhog Day and climate change, and Peak Oil being mentioned in Nature, Ars Technica, and Wired, along with the money people in Forbes dancing around the subject as they deal with the reality of the bumpy plateau. I expect I’ll post Clint Eastwood’s Super Bowl commerical on behalf of Chrysler. There is a reason why I sign off my comments “Happy Motoring–for now–from Detroit!”
http://crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/
“He is soon joined by other men and their trucks, all of them blithely unfazed by the end-of-the-world.”
It was a joke, douche-boy. One ate a twinkie, the food stuff that is supposed to last forever. A statue from a “Big Boy” restaurant blazed in the back ground. It was a J-O-K-E.
“I couldn’t help thinking that American chanteuses of yesteryear – say, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, Carole King – sang about adult problems and emotions with a greater thematic range, and would never have subjected themselves to such a display of pitiful narcissism.”
Ella was great. Billie, good, but a hopeless junkie. Carole King? Carole-fucking-King? Please. (Which is not to say that Madonna did and always will…suck.)
So much for the hope that one of the gutless wonders would have protested Indiana’s anti union policy.
hey k.c. you’re not running low on c.! or R U?
…”America wears its zeitgeist plastered right on its sweaty forehead.” -JHK
Holy steaming, gargantuan piles of shit, Jim! Now I’m wishing I hadn’t missed this demonstration and object lesson, laid right out there in plain view by the best bullshitters and jivers in da known woild!
Madonna? You’ve got to be kidding me. *whew*, the weirdness is getting thick.
(Mayhap I’ll view the grotesquery after the fact just to be stunned and amazed.)
After looking at it, I think that should be: grotesquerie, but you know what I mean.
I read yesterday that Ford was up in arms over the Chevy TEOTWAWKI ad. I don’t see why. Consider the kind of people that such a commercial would resonate with. Would you want people like that as customers?
As for Clint Eastwood, he’s an old man, set in his ways. People like Clint don’t want to rock the boat, they want to right where they are.
Pay no attention.
I was distracted while it ran, but paid sufficient attention to the Eastwood ad that I thought I might be watching a full-minute-long political ad during the most-expensive time slot in American TV. What candidate or cause, I wondered, could the old tough guy be hawking, with the desolate images and somber music overlay an implicit recognition that whatever morning-in-America we might have thought we had lived in, times are damn tough now.
As we know, America hates downers, especially during the Big Game, so this seemed somewhat revolutionary.
The payoff moment came when the card was turned, to reveal this quite-overtly-political ad was for a car company that, as far as I’m aware, has done very little to acknowledge the reality of modern challenges to America, whether ecologically, politically, or otherwise. Still, it was an interesting moment, a kind of inflection point.
By the way, the NFL has been all over enforcing its apparent copyright on the ad (not Chrysler?),so it’s been taken down from YouTube, CBS, and other sites. But I did find it here:
http://jalopnik.com/5882502/chryslers-clint-eastwood-super-bowl-spot-is-the-best-political-ad-yet
You’re ‘number one’ for invective, Jim. Memories of Hunter Thompson. Hilarious.
By the Dawn’s early light finds me heading out to water the garden, feed the chickens and generally observe the weather here in the tropics.
As I came back from the beach last night, the screams out of any of the various ex-patriate watering holes provided at best a hint of the mass delusion that Jim has so thoroughly dissected in his masterful manner.
It takes an effort to leave it all behind, but it may well prove to have been worth the effort.
Interesting new evidence of other Kunstler / Peak Oil predictions:
2 weeks ago SpanAir, a regional Spanish airline,
went belly up suspending all flights without notice and stranding 23,000 passengers..
Catalonia’s Regional Govt which had been subsidizing it and keeping it afloat took SpanAir off the ventilator of Euros refusing to fund it any longer.
Last week, yet another regional airline went under when the Hungarian Malev Airline went under seized by creditors leaving more air passengers stranded:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/04/business/global/hungarian-national-airline-halts-flights.html?scp=1&sq=hungarian%20airline&st=cse
Of course a while ago American Airlines parent Company filed for bankruptcy in the usual dodge of
stiffing workers and their contracted pensions, benefits, jobs and wages in order to pay for the ever-increasing price of fuel and insure the 1% owners get the majority of the loot…
So the collapse of the airline industry is also proceeding…
For years on CFN I’ve been reading about how things will get so bad that a “corn-pone Nazi” leader will emerge to lead the “fat diabetic men.”
Now CFN is telling me things are bad. But no “corn-pone Nazi” leader has appeared.
In fact, the leading Republican candidate is the most LIBERAL of all the Republican candidates, someone who was for abortion, and took a lot of LIBERAL positions related to unions, stimulus, government health care (RomneyCare), corporate tax relief, etc. before he flip-flopped and was against them.
In 2012, instead of a corn-pone Nazi, we get a liberal Republican. Another failed prediction.
Don’t vote conservative. Don’t vote liberal. Vote for a radical, someone who gets to the root of the problems. Vote for Jill Stein, Green Party.
The super bowl party I normally attend imploded to just two people, the host and myself, who had to remove the plastic coverings from the furniture since the room had just been painted. One guy failed to show because as usual when his kids are not visiting, he was passed out drunk. Anther guy was too upset to show up because some incompetent asshole fucked up a recent sports wager improperly placing the bet in Vegas so he didn’t get the money to place on the Giant like he wanted….one catastrophe after another in shallow guy world. Hardly any of the football watching crowd is married even though these guys are in their early forties because they have correctly intuited that marriage today is for suckers, etcetera ad nauseum. The Clint Eastwood endorsement of Chysler made me ill because after all, Chrysler products suck to high heaven as any gearhead will gladly tell you. Guess that gearhead movie he made recently was just make believe like everything else in Hollywood. I did like the commercial where Queen Elton fell down a chute to the dungeon to be interred therein with none other than Flavor Flave as after all, the people must have their Pepsi sweetened with high fructose corn syrup iced down in tubs. Unfortunately you can’t have a Thunderbirds/Blue Angels fly over of the stadium when playing in a domed stadium so the opening ceremonies were somewhat deficient from a militaristic standpoint. Of course this morning I had to field stupid football questions from my female relatives so that was the same. Actually their question of how there could be a five point lead at one stage of the game wasn’t really so bad as of course it was caused by the safety which had occured earlier on.
Mocking the excesses of the super bowl is like shooting fish in a barrel. Seems pretty much self-parodying already, but I only watch it to deconstruct the advertising.
“…..acronyms and jargon intended to confer an illusion of control and competence.”
Excellent summation of what Amerika has become.
I watched the first twenty minutes, thinking that they might actually start playing football. But the entire time was taken up with countryfied national anthems, flyovers, and cutaways to a group of bewildered looking jar heads milling about in Afghanistan. They looked more like prisoners than heroes, but the crowd went wild to see the poor bastards.
Tuned in for halftime and thought Madonna was going to simultaneously blow Seal Team Six while singing “Like a Prayer”. Even our biggest media stars have become caricatures of themselves. But then, so have we.
Good post Jim.
Personally, I can’t stand American football, and especially the Super Bowl, what bull shit.
What about the advertisement for the Navy Seals movie? How freaky is that?
Occupy Earth!
Hey, at least with ads like that pickup commercial they are starting to introduce the idea that dystopia is on the way.
Now they need to take the next step and explain to the public that in a dystopia you don’t get to keep living they way you have been.
“Clint Eastwood, the quickly aging great-grandpa crimefighter and general hard ass of yesteryear was equally pathetic in his let’s go to ‘morning – in – America meme.”
It’s worse that that. Morning in DETROIT, for God’s sake.
Asoka:
People on here tend to think for themselves, therefore your pitch for the Greens, who are the party whose pitch is that the two conventional parties are NOT SUFFICIENTLY committed to a ludicrous unsustainable future, is not going to resonate.
At the beginning of the SB Chrysler ad, my wife asked what is that? The voice and images were indeed strange. I said probably a Chrysler commercial (based on previous ads), then I thought, maybe a political ad?
When the gutteral voiced speaker was revealed to be Clint “Josey Wells” Eastwood. I thought who better to bring the message that it’s half-time and we need to find a way out or invent a new one. Thinking of the movie Gran Torino. Thank you Josey. I’d give Chrysler an A+ for this ad.
James, Why would a man who incessantly points out mankind’s imbecilic activities waste his time watching and then writing about another of the gambling, oh pardon me I meant, “gaming” industry’s cash cows.
As to the un-health of today’s humans perchance the effects, undoubtedly minor, of the worst, IMO, invention human’s ever conceived, marketing/advertising, coupled with government subsidies to the very corporate producers of the unhealthy food stuffs accomplished by lobbyists, use of worst invention, employed by the recipients of such largess.
If the preponderance of American males had watched as many sporting events as I have and had not been influenced by as many advertisements as I have not, modern day equivalents of the Roman gladiators would not earn 10’s to 100’s of times the salaries of teachers, nurses, scientists, engineers, electricians, carpenters ….. and their owners would not be part of the (1/10)%.
SNAFU
Saw an interesting comment about the Eastwood ad.
Chrysler, the purpored vehicle for America’s comeback, was taken over by Italians.
And another: How about the corn pone leader of Susan B. Komen for the Cure politicizing breast cancer, good grief.
“…out drives a plucky American male lumpen ‘worker’ dude behind the wheel of a gleaming giant pickup truck.”
I missed the Stupor Bowl, but I did see the commercial and wish to remind JHK that the guy was a pretty boy, not a working man (or a diabetic fatso in clown attire). His truck was at least dirty, which is more than I can say for most of the trucks around here.
A pickup should be a work vehicle. Full disclosure: I own a recent-model Chevy Silverado, purchased used and driven for rural work only, about 4K miles a year. I hope it will be the last truck I ever need to buy; I’d have preferred a Ford, but a good price on a low-mileage truck is hard to beat. The Chevy does what makes a pickup lovable: hard work hauling tools, lumber, stone, and building supplies.
That is the purpose of a truck, just as it was for the lumber wagons it replaced and that may well replace it in a world made by hand, if JHK is right about our future. I’ll be sure to get a good team of mules and a wagon with an 8′ bed (anything shorter may as well be a car).
But the American pickup has evolved into something else: a totem of manliness in the age of decline.
JHK asks about American males, “Are they on an intellectual level with lemurs and Holstein steers?”
I don’t know about the self-confidence levels of either animal, but so many pickup owners buy their rigs to look manly. Then they “haul” a couple of bags of mulch home from Home Depot. When a buddy downsized from a Ford F-350 to a Mazda 4-cylinder, a co-worker on the construction site actually asked, with concern and not scorn, “but do you feel less a man with a little truck?”
And hence, American males today: few of them able to make things or do things by hand, fretful about the future, their masculinity wrapped up in a V8 engine. And do not get dirt or scratches on the bed-liner!
Bearfoot – Not sure what “c” is… Of course, that is, if your’e talking to me. But, generally, I think we all are runnin a bit low now. LOL
Pro Sports- keeping America’s men
dumb,
distracted
and docile.
Support your youth little league, youth soccer and track club. Leave the Pro sports to the professional dullards.
“Vote for a radical, someone who gets to the root of the problems.”
Your candidate has no 30 year track record opposing these “problems”. I agree don’t vote for a republican liberal.
“That is the purpose of a truck, just as it was for the lumber wagons it replaced and that may well replace it in a world made by hand, if JHK is right about our future. I’ll be sure to get a good team of mules and a wagon with an 8′ bed (anything shorter may as well be a car).” SJoe
Smoky,
Keee-wrecked!
There have been many times that I had wished for a 10′ truck bed (enclosed dimensions). I realize this would be a serious detriment to maneuverability and frame strength, but flopping those 12 and 14-footers out over the tailgate of an 8′ bed have caused me some anxious moments and iffy counterweight and cantilever “solutions”.
Beyond those mundane practicalities however, I enjoyed your thoughtful comments on pickup psychoses. Interesting.
Chomsky on Sports:
In fact, I have the habit when I’m driving of turning on these radio call-in programs, and it’s striking when you hear the ones about sports. They have these groups of sports reporters, or some kind of experts on a panel, and people call in and have discussions with them. First of all, the audience obviously is devoting an enormous amount of time to it all. But the more striking fact is, the callers have a tremendous amount of expertise, they have detailed knowledge of all kinds of things, they carry on these extremely complex discussions…
…and when you look at the structure of them, they seem like a kind of mathematics. It’s as though people want to work out mathematical problems, and it they don’t have calculus and arithmetic, they work them out with other structures…And what all these things look like is that people just want to use their intelligence somehow…
Well, in our society we have things that you might use your intelligence on, like politics, but people really can’t get involved in them in a very serious way — so what they do is put their minds to other things, such as sports. You’re trained to be obedient; you don’t have an interesting job; there’s no work around for you that’s creative; in the cultural environment you’re a passive observer of usually pretty tawdry stuff…So what’s left?
Last week I said that the Superbowl is the nexus between sports and entertainment and the whole wasteful meaningless expenditure of capital.
It’s very similar to the polital games of the ultra wealthy buying the elections and letting the little people play to their expensive propaganda.
There is nothing of value or gain, just an acting out of the empty hopes and vapid dreams of a dying culture.
Nothing this country does or the overly wealthy individuals who gain when you lose are doing anything of merit with their investments, but I promise you this, by breaking with classical economics for this disaster economy being implemented in Europe now as well, we will go down.
I am not one to watch the games and did not do my anthropological field study last night, but it’s always the same thing every year.
It is just deteriorating and at some point will be seen as something not worth fighting for anymore.
Get ready for a new economic disaster and more guaranteed bailouts for the casino players. We will be stuck with the bill.
Recommendations today. Charles Hugh Smith oftwominds.com
Max Keiser interview with Michael Hudson:
http://michael-hudson.com/2012/01/hudson-keiser-on-2012-imperialism/
The Super Bowl commercials were real stinkers this year – repeats of old, tired themes. Even the half-time show had old, tired Madonna prancing around and pretending to be young and sexy. Used to be the commercials were the best part! Those Budweiser frogs planning on murdering various rivals were funny, the Old Spice guy “You Could Smell like Me” was funny. None of that just weird stuff like Clint Eastwood rambling on about . . . something. The Mayan Apocalypse was kinda funny. Chubby, middle aged men driving trucks and eating twinkies. I guess if you have a truck and a twinkie, why you’re prepared for anything! But will they take credit cards at the gas stations after the Apocalypse?
Also caught a couple episodes of NatGeo’s Doomsday Preppers recently. Now that is really funny. These people or couples go on TV and show how they have prepared for the End, although the End could be caused by economic collapse, lack of foreign fossil fuel, giant meteorites and my personal favorite, the continents shifting because the poles might change their magnetic directions. Some of their plans were impressive because of the amount of time and money spent putting together shipping containers to build an impenetrable fortress. Or one family that converted an old swimming pool into a fish pond, goat shed and hydroponic garden. During the show, an expert rates the preparedness and makes suggestions of improving things. At the end of the program, the narrator gives the statistical possibility of any of these scenarios actually occurring and its usually a 1,000,000 to 1.
Susan G. Komen is really hoping for the Apocalypse and has learned that WOMEN like getting basic health care services WITHOUT the right wing religious nut jobs interfering. Komen’s funding has shot straight down the poop hole while Planned Parenthood is raking in the dough. This is what happens when you listen to “Pro Life” nut jobs who hate women so much that they would rather let them die slowly of undetected breast cancer than put politics aside. Bill O’Reilly (now lying full time) says Planned Parenthood is 97% abortions. Didn’t he learn anything from Sen. John Kyl’s “Not Intended to be a Factual Statement” when he was caught telling the exact same lie? Guess Billy thinks that if he lies to enough oldsters, they will swallow the same gunk over and over again. Susan G. Komen is sunk though. Women vote and most of us are very fond of Not Being Lied to, getting medical care and choosing what we want to do with our own bodies. Twinkie, anyone?
I thought of your “clown civilization” comments from ‘Home From Nowhere,’ Mr. Kunstler, when I heard about the SB halftime show – “We fill our idle hours enjoying the canned antics of professional clowns.” But if American entertainers are embarrassing, British entertainers are no better: that female rapper who gave the finger on national television is a Brit.
Smoky sez:
“And hence, American males today: few of them able to make things or do things by hand, fretful about the future, their masculinity wrapped up in a V8 engine. And do not get dirt or scratches on the bed-liner!”
SJ,
Here’s a good one for you.
Someone I know very well, bought himself a brandie-new Dodge Ram a few years back. What did he need it for? Ah, for “yard stuff”, ’round-the-house building materials, but mainly, to transport the dirt-bikes hither and yon. NOW, he’s SOLD the dirt-bikes as downpayment on a ROAD bike to SAVE GASOLINE that the truck was guzzling like cheap rot-gut! See how well that whole strategy worked out? lol
(I must say though, that other than a few very minor scratches and minute dings, that damn truck looks to be close to pristine. He takes good care of his stuff.)
Right on Smokey! probably 75% of the fellas at the firehouse drive pick-ups. Out of those I bet 8 out of ten are “Pretty Boy” trucks. The workin’ trucks are easy to spot. I had a guy ask to borrow my 4 popper Tacoma To pick up some loose mulch. I said, “You have a truck”. “I can’t put that shit in the back of my truck” was his reply. I almost fuckin’ screamed. I guess my truck looked okay to carry shit! Insanity, that’s what it is. Plus they all need four wheel drive and honkin’ big-ass tires.
P.S. – When Crosby, Stills and Nash performed an acoustic set at the Berlin Wall a week after it was opened, one critic actually accused them of jumping at a contrived opprotunity to make themselves look relevant. Madonna performs a mindless, meaningless Super Bowl halftime show – and she’s applauded for it? Why is she the only pop performer of the past five decades to be applauded for her longevity, while folks like Crosby, Stills and Nash are written off as irrelevant dinosaurs? CSN lost money with that Wall gig, but they wanted to be there to show solidarity with Berliners. What did Madge’s Super Bowl gig accomplish?
Howdy O3, Sorry I missed ya at the ice harvest. I caught a deal on craigslist for some 275 gallon palletized sap tanks. Took a trip to Athol, pronounced with a lisp like asshole. The guys got more if you need something like this. I got em for 75 bucks.I am using them for rain water collection
http://westernmass.craigslist.org/grd/2810550832.html
Hey Jim and all the gang
Well another Stupor Bowl safely over, we can all rest easier knowing that. And the Madonna show, well seriously, what over the top, canned poptrash. I especially liked the initial outfit she appeared in complete with horned headdress and gold cape. What was that all about? Madonna’s music always was marginal, and it hasn’t aged well. She appears a little plasticky, but after all she is in her fifties. The show was sorta sad and tacky, the panorama of a fading and failing culture slowly choking to death on it’s own poisonous paradigm. As for the commercials, didn’t see them, so that was all to the good.
Yes I do have to say this year’s Bowl did seem to be significantly scaled down from previous years. Just no oomph to it at all, we went to bed early, the spouse just lost interest. Not sure why. I would rather do just about anything than watch football, but peace must be kept in the house.
As for all those fat diabetic men, well I think if current economic conditions continue with 50% of the population in poverty, that will self correct. After all can’t be fat when you have no money to buy food or a car for happy motoring.
Patiently awaiting the kick off for the real game, the one in the Middle East. The war rhetoric appears to be getting hotter on a daily basis. Heaven help us all.
loveday
“What did Madge’s Super Bowl gig accomplish?”
-Steve
It probably gave her an insanely gargantuan pay-day (for the performance of ONE single fucking number, no less).
Isn’t that what defines worthiness these days? How over-paid you can get for how tiny a portion of time spent doing [whatever] supposedly productive/entertaining crapola?
That’s a heck of a good price for those containers! Certainly worth a trip to As- I mean, Athol. So far, I’m lucky to have an uphill water supply that I can access via gravity and getting creative with piping. Speakin’ o’ which, some 1-inch well-line [at discount] in 150′ bulk might come in very handy. Hmmmm…
See what are minds wander to when un-involved with gladitorial spectacle?
(Ps. Well-drillers in these h’yar hills are going hungry for work. REALLY sparse, and sparser as the folks get broker. Heard from a “horses’ mouth”.)
“our” minds
(Or what’s left of ’em. B’bye!)
Speaking of the Apocalypse, check out Webbot master Clif High’s website Half Past Human. He believes plans are in motion that on March 02, 2012 Mossad and CIA agents impersonating Iranians will stage a false flag attack on a US Navy ship, thus opening the way to a wider war. Of course, we know they’ve done it before – USS Liberty in 1967. If word of this spreads far and wide, they’ll have to cancel. Too many people will know its a staged bogus event.
I watched the SuperBowl last night and like watching a movie I was able to suspend disbelief long enough to enjoy the game.
Last fall I spent a couple of weeks with a climate scientist, Dr. Guy McPherson (Nature Bats Last), who believes that JH Kunstler is imagining that we’ll be able to reconstruct America using trains. In the Kubler-Ross model that means that Jim is still in the bargaining stage. In Dr. McPherson’s opinion the scale and speed of events will overwhelm industrial systems in the next 20 years.
Here is a trailer for the upcoming film: Somewhere In New Mexico Before The End Of Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsPqtWfIQoQ
My small tv takes up a small corner of my living room and it wasn’t on last night. If the Chevy Silverado ads were as described, and I don’t doubt they were, one message from that might be that all the Chevy Silverado drivers will have missed out on the Rapture! Otherwise, why would they still be around?
-Phut
The contempt which Madison Avenue, the official mouthpiece for corporate America, has for American men and women, too (But that’s another story) is unmistakable. Our image from their minds is enough: Chubby, befuddled and brought into a happy, blissful content by whatever bullshit they’re trying to sell us. They’re right: Most American men are chubby and befuddled and there’s not much of a choice involved; but the contempt is certainly there, alive and breeding, telling us that it’s only the money they’re concerned about, only the idea that materialism and accumulation brings happiness and the contempt involved is one of understanding. It seems to be saying, “If you buy into our bullshit ideas then you deserve whatever fate awaits you, you stupid morons.” It’s truly the main premise of America – money and accumulation cure all ills, rectify all injustices and are the main and seemingly only reasons you are on this earth. It is how we are told to express our love. It is how we are told to express our displeasure, our hatred – buy our shit, don’t buy our shit. Well, those days, those ideas are rapidly becoming not only unemployable, but impossible. Uh, duh, what do we do now? Good question. There’s always our true humanity, the one which doesn’t involve money and accumulation and the idolizing of the monsters who are living in the sky cities of incredible wealth and wow, amazing power. But take a closer look. The sky cities on built upon the bones of the dead, the lost, those human beings who got in the way of ‘progress’. The Stupid Boil heavily re-inforces this message, heavily, but what it doesn’t tell us that is if you want to play THAT game, you’re more than likely, much more, to wind up in the bone pile of the others who are holding those cities aloft. Quit while you’re ahead. If you have any dreams let them concern reclaiming and holding on to your humanity. Good luck. It’s a long path, but remember – we’re not alone.
Interesting. I have been having the same thoughts re some naval provocation to bring us into another war for the last few weeks.
-Phut
“The real onslaughts besetting the nation in realms such as banking fraud, money in politics, peak oil, climate uncertainty, and economic contraction are at once too complex for the diabetic fat men to comprehend, and grossly misreported in the public arena, were Cable TV and newspapers work the levers of propaganda for one client or another.”
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Very good points indeed. Why is there no dialoge concerning preparedness for what’s coming ? And just wondering, why is it that when people start to take steps to prepare for the bad shit coming our way are they painted as conspiracy freaks or nut cases ? Don’t doubt that the 1% has their safety plans in place.
I missed the game,NatGeo caught my eye and that was that.
So who won ? How many times did madonna grab her crotch ?
On Facebook last night, a friend of mine mentioned his disappointment that the Canadian network which re-broadcast the stupor bowl replaced the much sought-after American commercials with ones for Canadian goods and services. I could only say in response that we have come to a pretty pass as a society if we’re complaining about being prevented from watching commercials.
I avoided the stupor bowl as much as possible, but I do listen regularly to NPR’s Planet Money podcast. From Friday’s edition I learned that Lucas Oil Stadium will cost local taxpayers $600 million over 30 years to pay off. I’m afraid the good people of metro Indianapolis are fools, but this seems to be the way of the world with people and their sports venues.
‘zone, what would be a good price for a roll of 1″ ?
I run across stuff all the time.
This is so so so……………………mean.
All I saw was Madonna on the Gym’s big-screen #7 getting off a big golden chair that looked like it was stolen from the temple of Isis. I was on an exercise bike listening to the most recent kunstlercast on a new toy I have. Never saw anything but her mechanical extravaganza to the worship of some Canaan deity. Did 15 miles and went home and never saw the game. Did somebody win?
So now I know we have only twenty years of natural gas and we get that by having a scorched earth gold-rush resource extraction policy. A link to Arthur Berman is on my site under Corn Pone, bottom of the list.
O3, Do you drill perchance? I thought about a well. I have city water. Screw the city. I am in town. My “old neighbor” tells me there is water close to the surface where we are at.
Hurra! Hurra! Hurra folks! Step right up! Watch the amazing America! She walks, she talks, she crawls on her belly like a reptile!! What a sick Superbowl spectacle. Who gives a f***. Well…..at least there is good news; the bankers got a ‘get out of jail free’ card; we’re saved! Unemployment numbers are down; we’re saved! A decadent multi-millionaire Republican presidential candidate who doesn’t think the poor need help will probably be our next President; we’re saved! The economy is on the road to recovery; we’re saved! The radio station out on the production floor just finished playing ‘Proud to be an American’ but I don’t hear people singing along to it much anymore. No body is feeling all that free these days.
Hey, my guess last night that Jim’s essay would contain something like this (below) wasn’t too far off.
As … America’s prodigious glutei maximi settled into their leather-cushioned Lazyboys for Super Bowl XLVI … Surely when the numbers are known pepperoni pizza sales alone would account for a discernible blip in 1Q GDP.”
Jim actually wrote:
The reality out there in “flyover” land is an audience of diabetic fat men in clownish loungewear slouched on sofas in foreclosed houses enjoying stupendous portions of cheesy and lard-laden foodstuffs between cigarettes and beers.
I laughed out loud at the succinct image. Nobody does a contempt rant better than Jim.
I am further amused by all those CFNers who have so often expressed their contempt for pro sports – Vlad, chief among em – only to be glued to their flatscreens through the entire spectacle.
Oh sure, Moo wrote “What game?” and Rick (probably gay ;-)) said he hated American football, especially the Super Bowl.
Prog, as usual, with his need to be everyone’s pal, was trapped in a politician’s dilemma. He confessed interest in the game but “didn’t know why.” He desperately did not want to be on the outs with the CFN majority – a certain academically elite type – who claim sports are gauche and unnecessary while secretly watching like rubber-neckers passing an accident scene.
Tootsie (Mrs Beasley) had a point in calling Jim a douche for not recognizing the JOKE aspect of the Silverado commercial. I mean, for Kricesakes, there’s product to be sold.
Heard Kim Mitchell on radio “Q107” a couple days back that ½-time performers only get their expenses covered, ie. travel, lodging, etc. for their entire entourage of course.
Chris Hedges, great vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature…v=7zotYU21qcU#
or here:
http://www.goldismoney2.com/showthread.php?28576-Chris-Hedges-quot-Brace-Yourself!-The-American-Empire-Is-Over…
I guess the question of the day for JHK is..If you hate the SuperBowl so much, why did you watch it? You hardly needed to see it to know what sort of things were happening. Or did you watch it so you could rant & feel superior to all of the others who were? Me..I’ve never seen a single SuperBowl, and in fact, I’ve never willingly watched any sporting event. Are we declining and working our way to a disaster, absolutely? Does SuperBowl 46 confirm that? Who knows? I remember someone claiming 3 years ago that we wouldn’t have any food on our tables come fall of 2009 because the Agri-Business cartel was going to fold. I’m still waiting. You have a good long-range vision James, but if I were you, I’d not quite put such specific timimg on everything, since all of this is in the Lord God’s hands.
Why would you guys be so hypnotized by a bunch of truck dudes? You should be more like the Red M&M who was ready to stick his dick anywhere, in anyone, when he saw the Brown M&M.
“PUNISH THE GUILTY. DO IT NOW.”
I agree but I’m confident the guilty will profit and the innocent will pay.
“And the Meek shall inherit what’s left of the Earth. . .”
Listen to yourselves, you all sound like tired old reactionairies, Grouchy Old Man and all.
We yahoos of yesteryear warned you about this pop culture crap and had abuse heaped on us for our efforts.
Come to realize fine folks that you did the bidding for a stupid political cult out of guilt over the Holocaust, slavery and the abuse of primitive brown people without machine guns and what has this wrought?
Now what have we got? An Israel less secure, blacks devolving and getting dumber as a group and primitive brown people turning to a hateful religion or burning their country down to make iPads.
Liberalism has failed.
Thank you for changing your name back to normal. It was madness on your part. Madness. Did you see the ad where the woman head butted her husband into submission? Why does no one think that is strange? Imagine the out cry if an ad portrayed violence against women.
Well, first off I drive a Dodge with a Cummins diesel motor powering the truck. The Chev Ford thing didn’t do anything for me.
Yeah, I know, that diesel motor cost a lot more money. Diesel versus gas argument does (do something for me).
I intermittently watched the game between waiting for youtube downloads, in making a movie of my morning fishing adventure. Yeah, I am a bit overweight, but no, no beer, cigarettes, or fat laden foodstuffs for me.
Didn’t see the Madonna thing though. I will have to watch it now there is such a JK kinda fuss over it. Maybe it will get on youtube?
Should I get soused up to watch it?
To bad the fishing had me breathing fresh air most of the day and helped me to fall asleep before the end of the game.
It was pretty damn good ending to have missed.
Quite frankly, I do feel like a macho man when I jump in my 2006 Dodge truck powered by a Hemi. But I whimper like a little bitch when I glance at the gas gauge. When I drive my 1995 Honda Civic I feel not so masculine, more like a tattooed teenager except for the absence of an oversized tailpipe. But then I pay $275 to drive 3005 miles down to Florida and back, and I smile like that same teenager after he scores a couple Oxycoton..
Talking about screaming ids, no brains the Greek debt talks basically have fizzled to the finger pointing stage. That’s according to felix salmon in his blog.
Is this thing going pear shaped? Already has. The Greek economy, the measureable one that is, has apparently and by many accounts gone into severe recession. People working for both the public service and private companies report not getting paid, cops don’t respond to calls, there are stories of people being denied health services because the insurance company stopped payments and, well, because there’s no money.
The Greeks cannot seem to summon the will to either pay the taxes or collect the taxes necessary to fund their state benefits. Other Europeans see this and don’t seem inclined to pay for what the Greeks are refusing to pay themselves.
On March 20 there’s Euro 14 billion in Greek bonds maturing and that is Greece’s date with the hangman.
Hi Q, I see that reports of your death have been greatly exaggerated. Welcome back. I can honestly say I did not watch the great circus which is the Stuporbowl. To admit that is sacrilegious in these parts. After all, this is New England Patriots country. A gray veil has descended upon this town since last nights loss to the mighty New Jersey Giants. I am of course in the minority. I was walking my dogs during the game and I don’t think I saw a single car. I wish it was always that way.
How is a a Jewish State taken from the Arabs by force and fraud and surrounded by Arab States ever going to be secure? And who should secure it – us? Why?
Our allies? After the Lavon Affair and the attack on the Liberty? The Jewish terrorists who attempted the false flag in Egypt to get us into that war, were all given medals years later after we weren’t looking anymore. That’s Israel.
Several prominent Israelis have threatened to end Western European Civilization if things don’t pan out the way they want. With their long range missiles and nuclear submarines stupidly given to them by the cowed Germans, they are capable of making good their threat.
Allies don’t threaten to destroy you. They are not Western and we owe them nothing. Their influence is due to the power of money in corrupt Western Democracies and also to the weird version of Christianity they have engineered in America.
Yo Mook, 2 n’s in Oxycontin. Ask me how I know. ;o)
What gets up my nose is exporting crap American culture down here (downunder). We had the “Sooperbowl” live on one of our free-to-air channels yesterday and as the kids were home from school early from a swimming carnival I put it on for a few minutes so I could “bag” the event for a bit of humour (humor).
Before I began the diatribe I asked the kids, “Hey, you want to see a sport even more boring than cricket?” Both kids (girl 12 and boy 15) “Uh, okay.” I don’t know where in the game it was up to, maybe somewhere in the first half. I said, “Check this out, I’m going to count out the amount of time each “play” lasts and then the gap between.”..
Eventually the first play began and I counted out three seconds, it was then followed by fifteen seconds of two slow-motion replays from different angles and shots of coaches either gesticulating widely in frustration or speaking intently into a head-microphone with a photo of the player who did the most thrown in for good measure. The the next couple of plays were roughly the same until on the fourth play, which included one player falling down and hurting his knee in a somewhat manufactured manner, the gap was so wide they chucked in a local commercial as well as the thirty second gap for gesticulations, a bio on the fallen one, and much jumping of camera from coach to coach. Of course my running commentary was meant to be humorous and I had the kids laughing their heads off – the desired effect.
Naturally the costumes got a bagging as well, helmets and pads especially included. I’m not one for “team sports” but rugby is far more interesting to watch – and it doesn’t stop unless someone is carried off on a stretcher. Sadly today our local papers are full of “Sooperbowl” but all the coverage is about the adds and Madonna “raising her middle digit”. I don’t know who won the game, and I have to say I really don’t care, unless there was a riot by “sports fans” afterwards that caused a lot of interesting carnage.
Their influence is due to the power of money in corrupt Western Democracies and also to the weird version of Christianity they have engineered in America. – V
I wouldn’t put it all on the Israelis. Don’t minimize the power of the West’s own stupidity in this mess. And don’t minimize Arab/Muslim idiocy either.
Everybody is in an uproar over a postage stamp sized patch of real estate in the middle of nowhere. If there was just a half an ounce of brains in all the western and Arab foreign services (which there isn’t – just think of all the Ivy League educations and the foreign equivalents that were wasted over the decades on this thing) we would by now have had a public discussion on doing the obvious thing ie make like Pontius Pilate, wash our hands of it and let the locals duke it out. But no – avoid common sense at all costs.
Copy dat’ IH2!
“and it doesn’t stop unless someone is carried off on a stretcher.” that’s a classic! That is the what makes it a sport and not a “game”.
Heard rumours that the Goverment doesn’t want any “hoarding” of food – even asked Mountain House for their client list. What has anyone else heard?
Where did you hear this? Sounds kind of lame. I’m on the watch list and I have a right to know!
TRIPP
I think the failure is more pervasive than just one side of the political spectrum. Look at the gallery of no hopes, has beens and never will bes up for the Republican nomination. 308 million people and this is the cream of the crop?
I’m not saying that liberalism hasn’t failed. It has. Look at Obama, a pretty boy with a silver tongue but an awfully thin CV for the hardest executive job on the planet wouldn’t you say? For all their alleged intellectual superiority over the fat fucks from flyover country this is the best that liberals can do?
VK, I doubt if the feds even asked Mountain House for their client list. Since when do they “ask” for anything?
And who created and funded the NAACP? The Irish? The Italians? The Blacks? No, the you know who’s. And who dominates the Media and revels in the insult of White Men? And who constantly agitates against us and our Religion in the ACLU and the SPLC? And who were the masterminds of the Hate Crime Laws? That’s right the ADL of Bnai Brith.
And furthermore I say Carthage should be destroyed. (Sigmund Freud’s hero was Hannibal. And he felt the greatest tragedy of European History that Rome defeated the Semitic Carthaginians.)
Amazing! A lot of the above seems to say that folks just can’t bring themselves to not watch the ads! Why?
I totally tuned out and ignored the ads and the halftime and enjoyed the football. Overall, it was one of the better games of the season.
Overall in televised sports, you can see those who are best at what they do put out extreme effort to win. I may not care for some particular sport, but I like to know that those who are the best are striving to their utmost. There’s a lesson there.
And for many, there is much more to them than just physical talent and ability. One aspect of IQ is the ability and rate for processing information inputs. A low IQ doesn’t help at all in many of the action sports. Few university intellectuals ever have to process the inputs as rapidly as do quarterbacks or racing drivers–and survival depends upon having the ability. Might be why Elway and Penske are millionaires…
Please pardon my Old 6969 moment. I’m not anti -Obama .I’m anti big government in general. Somebody e-mailed me this and I thought it was a little provocative. I don’t know if it is true.
WHERE ARE BARACK OBAMA’S PAST GIRLFRIENDS?
I hadn’t thought about this – but where are O’s past girlfriends –
surely he had at least one? No past girl friends popping up
anywhere? Strange – strange to the point of being downright
weird!
OK, this is just plain old common sense, no political agendas
for either side Just common knowledge for citizens of this
country, especially American citizens, who know every little
tidbit about every other president (and their wives). We even
know that Andrew Jackson’s wife smoked a corn cob pipe and
was accused of adultery, or that Lincoln never went to school,
or Kennedy wore a back brace, or Truman played the piano.
We are Americans! Our Media vets these things out! We are
known for our humanitarian interests and caring for our “fellow
man.” We care, but none of us know one single humanizing fact
about the history of our own president.
Honestly, and this is a personal thing … but it’s bugged me for
years that no one who ever dated him ever showed up. Considering
his charisma, which caused the women to be drawn to him so
obviously during his campaign, looks like some female would not
have missed the opportunity….
We all know about JFK’s magnetism and that McCain was no monk.
Palin’s courtship and even her athletic prowess were probed. Biden’s
aneurisms are no secret. Look at Cheney and Clinton-we all know
about their heart problems. How could we have left out Obama before
or during the White House?
Nope… not one lady has stepped up and said, “He was soooo shy,” or
“What a great dancer!”
Now look at the rest of what we know… no classmates, not even the
recorder for the Columbia class notes ever heard of him.
Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Check for
groomsmen. Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony.
Has anyone talked to the professors? Isn’t it odd that no one is
bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.
When did he meet Michele and how? Are there photos? Every
president provides the public with all their photos, etc. for their
library. What has he released? Nada – other than what was in
his so-called biography! And experts who study writing styles,
etc. claim it was not Obama’s own words or typical of his speech
patterns, etc.
Does this make any of you wonder?
Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from Obama’s past,
saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend,
etc ? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.
This should really be a cause for great concern. Did you see the
movie titled The Manchurian Candidate?
Let’s face it. As insignificant as we all are… someone with whom we
went to school remembers our name or face…someone remembers
we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the
bully or something about us.
George Stephanopoulos, ABC News, said the same thing during the
2008 campaign. Even George questions why no one has
acknowledged that the president was in their classroom or ate in the
same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus.
Stephanopoulos was in the class of 1983 at Columbia – same as
Obama. He says he never had a single class with him.
Since he is such a great orator, why doesn’t anyone in Obama’s
college class remember him? And, why won’t he allow Columbia to
release his records? Do you, like millions of others, simply assume
all this is explainable – even though no one can?
NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT COLUMBIA .
Looking for evidence of Obama’s past, Fox News contacted 400
Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims
to have been there, but not one remembers him. For example,
Wayne Allyn Root was (like Obama) a political science major at
Columbia, who graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama,
“I don’t know a single person at Columbia who knew him, and
they all know me. I don’t have a single classmate who ever knew
Barack Obama at Columbia … EVER!
Nobody recalls him.
Root adds that he was, “Class of ’83, political science, pre-law”
and says, “You don’t get more exact or closer than that. Never
met him in my life, don’t know anyone who ever met him.
“At our 20th class reunion five years ago, who was asked to be
the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack!
And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy
who writes the class notes, who’s kind of the, as we say in New
York, “the macha” who knows everybody, has yet to find a
person, a human who ever met him.”
Obama’s photograph does not appear in the school’s yearbook,
and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years
at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any
former classmates or friends while at Columbia .
How can this be?
NOTE: Wayne Allyn Root can easily be verified. He graduated
valedictorian from his high school, Thornton-Donovan School ,
then graduated from Columbia University as a Political Science
major in the same ’83 class in which Barack Hussein Obama
states he was.
There are lots of criticisms one can make about Obama, but you that tired old RW conspiracy email you felt was worth posting here has been repeatedly debunked… guess you all got tired of getting looked at funny when you asked about his birth certificate? Anywho, spend about 5 minutes with google and see for yourself. Hope that helps! Have a great day!
the media hologram infusing the superbowl was pornographic in every way – fitting for the debased culture described in this blog so well. Was half expecting shadow dances on the screen behind madonna suggestive of someone like her riding someone like d. rodmen’s “tower of power for over an hour” – apologies to f. zappa – o wait, those were shadows in my mind, not on the screen, getting increasingly hard to separate the two….
From an e-mail to my Brit friend Amanda, just back from an economically vital Germany:
Don’t know how the Germans do it. This economy and society are sliding down a slope that shall end who knows where, but some think facism. Here’s a clue — we were watching the Super Bowl yesterday. Mostly we watch it for the commercials, which cost 2.5 million per 30 secs and hence are usually well done and clever. The one that won this year in polls of viewers was made by a bloke with a great dane. The commerical shows the animal burying the remains of a cat then bribing the man with Doritos (tortilla chips flavoured with God knows what). Of course we were horribly offended. And other viewers were too, but MUCH in the small, almost insignificant minority. According to polls, Americans loved the commercial. The amateur who made it was awarded a million dollars.
This sick humor and veiled, displaced hostility is, for me, clear evidence of a hopeless, helpless, angry citizenry looking for relief through a victim. Since it’s no longer possible to victimize minorities, women, or the mentally handicapped, cats do nicely. And it will only get worse as the oil dries up and there is nothing to replace it. Now the reason we went to Iraq and Afganistan is clear. We want to be there until the last drop is extracted from the ground. I doubt there is any clear plan for what we’re going to do after that.
Nothing much we can do. We’re saving for a small place in a small town in an agricultural area.
We like xxxxxxx, about 20 miles from Sxxxx, everything close at hand. Looks like the best bet for the long term. Of course, I could be wrong. We could perfect and trust nuclear energy or discover super efficient solar panels, both possibilities being remote. Still, we’d be in a nice town and not living at the mercy of our landlords who are extracting the highest rents possible because after the bubble few people can get credit.
Some good news: some States are contemplating issuing their own gold/silver backed currencies or at least allowing gold and silver coins as viable currency in case of extreme inflation.
Too little too late? In most cases certainly. But who knows? Perhaps the Republic of North Dakota might have a chance: lots of grain, milk, and meat and oil for fuel. Not many minority enrichers either. They would have to barricade the interstates with their National Guard if they still have any in state. Compassion is going to be a private luxury. Any State Official who doesn’t see it that way will be a traitor.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/03/pf/states_currencies/?article
Like your blog. I didn’t watch the game either. I know some people who taped the game so they could watch the ads without interruption.
I wanta see Madonna driving that ol’ truck. Did Sam Elliot provide the voiceover? Buncha whores.
White Men too – see the one where the wife head butts her husband onto the floor. Or are you Ok with that like most people are?
Last year a White Man licked the fingers of a Black to get the potato chip taste.
To be “charitable”: many are inured to this because it’s so constant – and may not even notice it anymore. That’s worse btw since it’s operating in the subconscious.
And who is imitating their nicolaitanism?
I watched the ManU v. Chelsea soccer match instead of the football pre-game blather. No commercial interruptions during the two 45-minute halves, world-class players demonstrating skill, finesse and teamwork, and a thrilling come-from-behind tie for ManU.
I also watched Downton Abbey instead of the Super Bowl. No commercial interruptions, brilliant dialogue and story, and a poignant reminder that even the most powerful empire on earth has its zenith and its decline. Best wishes.
Ozone,
This is OT this week, but thank for the tip back in December on the first book from your deLorean-driving relative. (A flux capacitor-equipped deLorean, at that 🙂
It was a blast, and I couldn’t put it down!
? Ready Player One – Ernest Cline
(For a completely different treatise of a similar subject matter, check out Daemon by Suarez
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Not sure how the Middle East or Obama got into this conversation but I can see it’s already headed off into nutbar land, thanks to our favourite regular trolls.
Enjoyed the rant today and will pass it along to my son. He loves his NFL and the superbowl is a big day for him. Not sure why, I certainly never encouraged an attachment to American football. He says our own CFL is lame and won’t watch it.
I see that the big car Eastwood is pushing for Chrysler is apparently Canadian made. Imagine that!
Did I miss something? The Super bowl happened yesterday? Oh, well…
Why complain? She the logical end product of the beliefs that you hold: socialism, feminine empowerment, atheism, globalism etc) You don’t believe in these? But you march with those that do. Why do you believe they will spare you in the end? Because you’re not me? But you’re not them either – and in the end all must join.
You are with your lust for out breeding. You and Grouchy both believe in a cafe au lait world. You don’t? But your policies would lead to it so it’s a differnce that doesn’t make a difference. If you are not with us, you are against us. Ham was cursed long ago even by your own theology – to be a servant till the end of the age. Now you would undo this for your own pleasure? Like Romney you are weak. He turned the car to the side of the road and wept when his false Prophet declared Blacks able to join the Church. His God, like your’s, changes his mind.
Read: http://cambriawillnotyield.blogspot.com/
Does it embarrass you to post such an ignorant, dumb, backwardass statement? Or are you all id and no superego?
That would be backasswards. Meaning that the Green Party was founded on sustainability issues, not more of the same wasteful Earth-destroying actions that the two corporate parties celebrate.
My question stands. Aren’t you the least embarrassed at showing your ignorance?
I watched the Superbowl and I had a blast. We went to a “Who Cares” party (no one cared who won since we’re all 49’s fans). Drank great wine and ate fantastic food. Made snarky remarks about Madonna. My favorite commercials featured dogs–the VW commercial was my favorite. I’m a sucker for any advertisement with chimps, dogs or bears!
Yes, I agree. If a truck is clean, the owner should be driving a car.
The ones that REALLY piss me off are the “trucks” with extended passenger seating and a covered 4 foot bed. In other words, a gas-eating passenger car.
Nah, they won’t care how many people know.
Look at 9-11. Obama still trots that discredited puppy out everytime he wants to kill someone new, or bomb another country.
Doesn’t matter how many people are onto them, as long as the TV people spout the right lines.
Well, good for you, Ripped.
One of the weirdest things that ever happened to me was when I lived on a crowded street in San Francisco.
I came around the corner one Sunday and there was no person in sight. The street was empty. But then there was an enormous roar of male voices, which made me jump in alarm.
What the hell? It turns out that there was a football game on that day, and all those apartments were filled with men watching it.
Another time, I was going on the train to New Orleans and the conductor warned us not to walk around the train station. She said it was dangerous.
But I looked at the map and thought, I’m not paying a taxi to go three blocks to the hotel. So I head off and foot, and damn!, there’s cops on every corner. 3 or 4 of them. This must be a dangerous neighborhood, I thought.
Right as I was heading up the hotel stairs, the doors opened and thousands of screaming people headed downstairs. I was swimming upstream. I wondered if it was a bomb scare, but they looked kind of happy.
Turns out the Superdome was behind the hotel, and the Saints had just won a football game. (This was before Katrina.)
OK, that’s my two football stories.
I found Eastwood’s ad fascinating. Not only that it carries the old theme of alternate reality where in the ‘second half’ we rebuild the driving utopia. By now, this pattern of corporatism trying to squeeze out the last drop of blood from a dying system is nothing unusual, sadly.
What’s fascinating though is the implied idea of hope for Detroit and other cities that follow the same path. That Detroit, a city that is somewhere around 90% black, with about 50% illiteracy rate, steadily slipping deeper and deeper into a typical African reality of violence, corruption, incompetence, decay, the overwhelming inability to self-organize and accomplish anything of value, that that city can be somehow transformed, rebuilt and restored. That Detroit’s decline had nothing to do with an invasion of Africans and the subsequent white flight. That you can replace an intelligent, creative and industrious European population of 100yrs ago with blacks, and still have a vibrant and prosperous community.
When it comes to completely ignoring reality, this idea of racial equivalence should at least compete with Jim’s image of (presumably white) diabetic fat men on their last legs expecting a miraculous turnaround of their failed fortunes, but on these pages at least, it seems to be a non-issue. Folks who seem to easily grasp the concept of peak oil and collapse of rapacious consumerist societies are in a complete denial when it comes to acknowledging the glaringly obvious and vastly different evolutionary outcomes for blacks and non-blacks.
Incredible…
OK, don’t you hate rugby? How many times a game do you have to haul their injured butts to the ER?
I truly hate working on rugby tournament weekends.
Roger. I never know whether my mother is flushing the real deal down the toilet because of these spellings.
How many of you 49er fans dropped your drinks or at least had on glance off the side of your leg?
One. Sorry.
“But your policies would lead to it so it’s a difference that doesn’t make a difference.”
You forget yourself. You do not know my “policies”, so you make yourself appear foolish { or over-reaching } by attacking that which you do not know.
Pride in racial heritage is a very personal thing, and should remain so. Choosing mates for others should, at the very limit, be restricted to parents.
Have you ever considered Duet. 23? Edomites { and perhaps others who were kin } were not allowed to “enter into the congregation until the third generation” and a “mamzer” was not allowed in until the tenth generation. IOW if an edomite {descendant of Esau} was to become a proselite, his children and grandchildren could only be proselites. Only after three generations of faithfulness to the Law could his offspring be counted among the Israelites. The offspring of a racial alien and an israelite were limited to being proselites until nine generations had passed.
It is time for you to recognize that Yahshua broke down the middle wall of partition set there by MEN.
Meanwhile in the West we are preparing to export 200 million tons per year of Wyoming coal to feed China’s voracious appetite. This will mean an additional 40 trains a day to the Coast, each 1.5 miles long, with each uncovered hopper car losing about 500lbs of black coal dust into our air and waterways each trip. Environmental despoilation and climate change – bring it on!
End of newsbreak, now back to the Big Game.
Madonna is still around? Really? I thought she married Prince Charming and was a housewife in Scotland. Whats she need to money for, getting dumped by the Prince? I was glad she was gone.
Well, dog damm. Gee, speaking of blasts from the past, whatever happened to Grace Jones? Now THERE was a potential stupr bowl singer.
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From your link: “But in order to face the dragon we must be connected to our past and believe what our ancestors believed…If he won’t have the faith of his ancestors, he will have oblivion.”
Do you think the israelites obeyed Duet. 23?
Recommendations today. Charles Hugh Smith oftwominds.com
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Great stuff, per usual:
Our complicity in the corruption is never mentioned: our votes for kleptocractic politico toadies who promise us that our share of Federal swag will not be sacrificed, our interest payments to the banking cartel/oligarchy, our acceptance of bogus statistics, bogus “reforms” and ceaseless propaganda as legitimate, and lastly, our silence in the face of destructive deficits, lest our share of the swag be cut.
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oftwominds-Charles Hugh Smith: What If We’re Beyond Mere Policy Tweaks?
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Say, now that i’ve seen the 1/2 time on utube, are you sure that wasn’t Betty White?
Whats next? The Go-Go’s? Banana Rama? The Bangles?
Geeeesh…..
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Four years ago, the excitement was mounting with the possibility that “We the People” might accomplish something groundbreaking, something that held great hope for positive change. Many of us still cling to that accomplishment and the hope. My vote for Obama was a lesser of two evils thing–the second time in a row I got talked into that crap.
Not this year. I will not waste my vote on any candidate that the corporate media hype as a “vaible” candidate and allow to fully participate in the presidential debates.
You can bet that JILL STEIN will not be invited to participate. The election is rigged to appear to offer a choice between two candidates that will serve the agendas of the PTB. Why go along with this scam? Even the tiniest bit of critical thinking shows to one not intent on ignoring the facts that IT IS FIXED.
If We the People REALLY want to accomplish something great, brave, radical, and meaningful, we must rally together to promote voting for a third party candidate, JILL STEIN or another.
Sorry, but a guy whose father was African and mother a white American sitting in the White House carrying out the elite’s agendas and talking out of the other side of his mouth is NOT a great accomplishment in my book. If he was purple with with yellow polka dots it wouldn’t friggin’ matter.
Obama, or Clinton, Jr. as i see him, is primed to out Reprivatean, his Demoncratic Poultry predecessor.
Look and see. Or choose to nazi, er I mean not-see. It’s a free country.
i AM LOOKING FOR someone to control me, Like a Rick or Sarah or Michelle, because God is on their side,BUT ALAS HOPE–Roseanne Barr for president!!!!!
“Well, in our society we have things that you might use your intelligence on, like politics…”
Since fucking when? When have politics had an intersection with intelligence?
“This is what happens when you listen to “Pro Life” nut jobs who hate women so much …”
You mean as opposed to Pro Choice geniuses? 50% of all aborted fetuses would have grown up to be women. Now who is it that hates women again?
“i AM LOOKING FOR someone to control me…”
May I suggest you cast your vote for Obama then?
MessianicDruid, I apologize if I have offended you with any offense of my previous comments. I ask for forgiveness.
I thank you for the link to the 3 hour long C-Span BookTV interview with Chris Hedges. I listened to it and I learned from it.
Thank you again for providing that link.
I am now going to the library to find the book Chris Hedges recommends: THE CROSS AND THE LYNCHING TREE by James H. Cone (2011) about the reign of terror called Jim Crow.
“The ones that REALLY piss me off are the “trucks” with extended passenger seating and a covered 4 foot bed. In other words, a gas-eating passenger car.”
Too right. They need to implement more controls on who can own trucks.
Your clickety-clacks on your keyboard are powered by coal powered plants.
America will look like Latin America, a few rich the rest dirt poor.
Touchdown Jim, full points on your review of ” What’s happenin’ ? ” in today’s digital world.
Now it’s time for the SUPER cleanup after
a time out for the SUPER Flush.
Virus not included.
Yeah M.
I copy CHS articles into my simple text library every day. I love the way he sees this and last week had a grouping of ideas: Counterfeit Money, Counterfeit Economy, Counterfeit Debt, Counterfeit Derivatives, which are worth checking out.
From the sounds of things I would say that the ideas of the corporations and banks being more powerful than nation states that Alvin Toffler futuristic books predict are coming true. Of course, I don’t think China and Russia are going for it. China has our former wealth and might just buy our assets on the cheap.
What if we weren’t a nation state anymore, but the voting public were the only ones who didn’t know?
That would explain the total breakdown of a functional response to what’s happening, wouldn’t it?
Frederick Douglas in his autobiography said that a “Good Master” was a Master who gave his slaves enough food to eat. “Food” typically was a crude, corn meal porridge “SLOP” that the Master would pore into a wooden trough similar to what hogs would eat out of. According to Douglas, some Masters were sadistic and would not give their slaves enough to eat, but most Masters were generous with the SLOP as they wanted to make sure that the slaves had enough energy to work. According to Douglas, the slaves were quite fond of the SLOP, and would supplement it by stealing food on the side.
What can I say? The gambler is in me. Most of the time I really enjoy football and the superbowl, and I know what it is. A millionaire’s club,bread and circuses.
My winning percentage on “close” games and taking the points is extremely high. Took the ‘jints end of 2007 season. Took ’em now. Let them smash their skulls and break their bones, just pay me.
I’m not just talking hundreds here.
Could I be doing something better than chest thumping here? Shit no.
Thanks for the link, lbendet.
I wondered about Keiser’s insistence on higher interest rates. We know that Volcker’s high 80’s rates devastated farmers all over the world, including our own, and led to Third World loans that can never be paid off, even though the principle has been paid long ago.
Michael Hudson straightened him out, I think.
Kunstler in devastating form again this week. One of his best in my humble opinion.
Also I just want to acknowledge and praise the reliability he has shown over the years. I am not aware that he has ever failed us of a Monday. Once or twice I believe he was a day late. Occasionally the writing was a little thin. Mostly it was welcome, usually very good, and occasionally (like this week) brilliant. But the sheer predictability of his Monday edition is extremely commendable, don’t you think? It’s no small thing to offer for free, and Jim if you’re reading this, I commend you on your generosity, discipline and dedication. All good American traits still present there to a large degree.
A decent price for 1″ well line would be about $.50/ft. new. So “laying around, collecting dust” stuff is kinda anybody’s guess, right?
I agree. I always thank JHK when I write in on Mondays (only I think I forgot today)!
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Wage, yes that was a good one and equally good is the Max Keiser site:
[KR245] Keiser Report – The Vaporized and the Deleted
We discuss the vaporized and the deleted – the new American soap opera in which the assets, wealth, jobs and economy of the 99% have been stolen.
In the second half of the show, Max talks to Daniel Collins of TheChinaMoneyReport.com about China’s imports of gold and their recent purchases of Germany’s legendary mittelstands.
A very personal thing? Fine, so don’t talk about the ten tribes then since it means nothing to you. It’s just pretending to be Identity when you’re not.
Like all Manichees, you care only for the soul and nothing for the body and its heritage. True Israelites know that God works through His Natural Laws most of the time. Or have you forgotten Phineas and his spear?
What if we weren’t a nation state anymore, but the voting public were the only ones who didn’t know?
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I don’t think the US was ever a nation state. I think it was always a corporate slave plantation and was meant to be such from the very beginning. Everything else is/was just propaganda theater and lies, produced for the blind ignorant and gullible.
This imperialist idiocy is now being actively foisted on the rest of the world. I say idiocy, because it is a political and economic model that time and again has shown itself to be nothing other than death.
The Republican party (The Grotesque Oligarchist’s Plutocracy party) are neo-fascist in nature. (Many Democrats follow in lock-step, and are afraid to stand up against them.) They have bought up a great many of the “properties” on the board in order to control the message. Their goal is to make the government serve their own needs, as well as to give them access to the Treasury whenever they show losses. They have bought up the necessary portion of Congress persons (around 20 critical votes). They idealize the Italian style Mussolini plutocracy/oligarchy that existed there during WW2 where the elite controlled the government and in exchange bought them off.
They want to suppress wages and benefits, as well as eliminate the only voice working people have that can compete with the corporate lobbyist buying candidates and elections-–unions.
They want to make sure that the military, the police, and the intelligence sector works strictly for them against everyone else.
This is there goal if the voting public decides to give it to them!
http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com
Don’t forget about the Whites who were lynched too.
RT,
I don’t “do da drill”, but I would suspect your ol’ timer neighbor might know a thing or 3 about the water table in your dooryard. ;o)
If’n you want discount drilling, I sure can ask. 1/3-1/2 of a million dolla-ray equipment that lays idle don’t pay the bills…
A f’instance: a well of about 350-400′ should be right around 5 grand (boom-town days). The reason to pound such a deep bore when you’ve already hit water at 20′ is CAPACITY, or, “reserve” if you will. Then, you want to keep the pump off of “the floor” of the bore by 20-25′ so there’s a place for the [inevitable] silt to gather.
Wow! Expenses? Heeeeey-zeuz, exposure only! Must be an album or a “comeback” in the works.
Oh well, whatever the market will bear; good luck Hagdonna.
Thanks for the heads-up on that bit of americana.
So I watched it. The part I question is where he says the rest of the world will hear the roar of American engines again.
Who was it that pointed out that drones sound more like lawnmowers?
The US will increasingly save energy by killing people with drones, going green in their own sick and perverted way.
Thanks for the link.
Hedges is the go-to-guy for the pulse of the unacknowledged undercurrent that IS the true zeitgeist. No mistake, he’s seen the horrors right close and knows the signs of ferment to explosion.
That’s really funny, in an outre kind of way, but I’ll be damned if I know exactly why that might be!!
This is why I say about the Repugnacan’ts. Welcome to the Theater of Cruelty.
Nothing like a bunch who don’t believe in evolution to believe in social Darwinism.
Whatever they were a few decades back–they are a whole different animal now.
I don’t “do da drill”, but I would suspect your ol’ timer neighbor might know a thing or 3 about the water table in your dooryard. ;o)
You also don’t want to have too shallow a well, especially in an urban area. Why? The groundwater will be too contaminated with weed killer, bug spray, and all the other shit that people spray on their yards. Plus the old, closed gas station that just had the tanks covered up and are leaking all kinds of shit into the groundwater.
So you want one that goes below that and taps some cleaner ‘spring’.
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Speaking of US-backed murders- lbendet, was it you who linked to the article about the Arab League report which didn’t follow the US-NATO-GCC line?
“The report is adamant. There was no organized, lethal repression by the Syrian government against peaceful protesters. Instead, the report points to shady armed gangs as responsible for hundreds of deaths among Syrian civilians, and over one thousand among the Syrian army, using lethal tactics such as bombing of civilian buses, bombing of trains carrying diesel oil, bombing of police buses and bombing of bridges and pipelines.
Once again, the official NATOGCC version of Syria is of a popular uprising smashed by bullets and tanks. Instead, BRICS members Russia and China, and large swathes of the developing world see it as the Syrian government fighting heavily armed foreign mercenaries. The report largely confirms these suspicions. ”
http://www.atimes.com//atimes/middle_east/nb04ak01.html
Great Superbowl game! However the ultimate insult to anyone with a modicum of intelligence were the words, “WORLD PEACE” writ large in lazer light on the foreground during the half-time show of a nation with more on-going wars than any time in history. Some peace!
Yeah baby!
Keep that flux capacitor warmed up and ready… we may have to “jump” on a moment’s notice! ;o)
Yes, that was me.
Maybe yours are, but Actually and Fortunately my power is 100% hydroelectric and provided by a non-profit Public Utility District.
And if it wasn’t I would use a microsolar system to provide the paltry 150 watts.
So don’t ASSume, mrs B.
The ones that REALLY piss me off are the “trucks” with extended passenger seating and a covered 4 foot bed. In other words, a gas-eating passenger car.
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My neighbor across the street has the truck you describe but without the cover over the bed … a very slick looking “loaded” silver-grey Ford 150. His wife has a small German sports car … not sure what make. They’re in their mid-30s, have no kids and both work.
Every morning the guy picks up off his driveway the NY Times and “hauls” it to work with him on the truck’s front passenger seat.
Why not try a dowser first.
Yep.
Don’t watch or wait or look for the partisans…
they’ll show up; always late for the party, but that’s how it’s done. Survival first; cold choices second.
Re Obama:
Your long rant about his non-personhood reminds me of something I dismissed at the time.
In 2007, an acquaintance into the ET/UFO contactee “religion”, put forth that 0Bummer was a clone or an android. Haven’t seen him since. Given your post, maybe he was on to something!
I watched the bowl and all the commercials and loved every minute of it. It’s FRIGGIN ENTERTAINMENT
Is you from ’round h’yar?
…’cause most anywhere you have a mind to drill, you’ll hit water. UNLESS you’re silly enough to drill in a “development” of closely packed abodes, all sucking the same aquifer dry! ;o)
I simply said, “The house is goin’ here; drill there (stake provided).” 2 1/2 gal/minute; plenty good with a 400 gallon capacity.
(No offense to dowsers; they generally will find the best “flow” most times.)
I watched the bowl and all the commercials and loved every minute of it. It’s FRIGGIN ENTERTAINMENT folks. Nothing more nor less.
Yeah, the world’s going to hell in a hand basket. This was fun time. Can’t think about that tragic crap all the time. Too depressing.
Nice week’s work, JHK. Thanks to you, as always.
“Are American men not expected to think beyond the immediate moment they are in? Are they on an intellectual level with lemurs and Holstein steers?
The Superbowl pageant is a window into the condition of American manhood, and the view is pretty pathetic. It’s a picture of men who feel so weak, insecure, and fearful that they have to compensate with fantasies of….”
This is hilarious, JHK. Pointed, incisive, maybe even poignant – but still hilarious. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, does American cultural critiques like the host of this website, Mr. JHK.
Beyond that, the number of posters who write in to express their prideful non-watching of the super Bowl spectacle is a little off-putting, to say the least. Just watch the stupid thing next year, if you’re going to comment to CFN the following Monday. JHK will watch it.* I will watch it, though I still won’t know exactly why next year, either. I haven’t played football since high school. And I haven’t bet on pro sports since the early ’80’s. Why I’m trying to make myself be interested in the football in the Super Bowl is an enigma.
But – the SB Spectacle is an unique look under the hood into the psychological status of mainstream America. And it’s a look at the output of the “best and brightest” efforts of focus group research and marketing firms.
We don’t all know why we are the way we are.
And we certainly don’t all know how to appeal to our own group instincts. But somebody does. And they show their best research and their most expensive work for the year – during the Super Bowl.
And, hey, even the football game wasn’t too bad, this year.
*Unless TSHTF during the coming year. In which case none of us, even JHK, will be watching Super Bowl 47. And I would miss it, though I have no clear idea why.
Not sure where h’yar is but in the mountains of western Massachusetts your methodoligy could cost you mucho jing. Random staking is foolish.
King Tut was a European DNA evidence now shows. Too bad for you Afrocentric Bullshit World View.
methodology…sorry
I was disappointed in the commercials this year. Of course there were the usual beer commercials. Now INBEV (formerly AB) has a NEW TASTE FREE light beer – Bud Light Platinum! No thanks. I can filter my own water. Give me a locally brewed IPA or Stout instead.
Too many commercials were for lame 3D movies. I can’t wait to spend my $10 (senior discount) to see one. And I plan on buying a truck this week so that I can survive the coming apocalypse.
The only commercial that made me laugh this year was the one with the little kid in the fountain.
I missed the halftime show. I flipped to another channel to watch a re-run of one of the Republican debates. Drill, baby, drill.
At least it was a good football game.
Unless you are a real farmer or maybe running construction sites, pickups are the most impractical of available vehicles. Expensive, oversized gas guzzlers with 3/4 of the rig open to rain & snow (yeah, you have to shovel out your “bed”), plus general road filth, thievery, etc. Usually not your most comfortable or best handling, in general. Limited seating for passengers should you need it. Poor traction when empty – in winter you have to haul around sandbags just to stay on the road – well thats great for fuel economy.
Yet you see them everywhere, usually empty except for the (single male) driver. The bulbous hood, the diesel throb & stink, the false front grill and maybe a big set of ram horns – just to complete the testosterone + 92 octane-equivalant fueled rutting display. (The other version of empty is a pair of dirt bikes, snow “sleds” or some other fuel consuming atrocity).
There is a growing penchant for these rigs that I can only put down to massive compensation for American males emasculation in the service industry economy. Plus the evershortening male member due to numerous plastic estrogens present in the water, beer and soda pop. And the radiation.
Yes you can get a canopy and 4WD but its all at extra cost. Canopy access, security and weathertightness is crummy, basically why bother? Get a van and a small flat bed trailer – you will be miles and lower CO2 ahead!
LARWBD said “….I only watch (the super bowl) to deconstruct the advertising.”
And… ?
My analysis was the following: the audience is overwhelmingly male, the sport, all male, so, why were the advertisements dripping with femininity? Many of them featured the tired “dopey man, smart woman” theme. Scratch that- most did.
I have no problem with Madonna or the halftime show, but, clearly everyone else in the room did. FYI, 13 guys and one girl.
Is it just me, or does everything “around” the game seem infested with women? I feel as if it is a way of invading the “man cave” in a sneaky way.
Mostly true, as far as it goes.
The plutocracy controls a majority of Congress, not just 20+ seats. USA has the best politicians money can buy! So does the rest of the world.
The plutocracy runs the Repugnican and Demoncrat leadership, the major media, the foundations, the universities and the majority of the major corporations. They own the TBTF banks and the Fed and the other central banks. They control every significant power center in the world.
Voting will not change this.
“The people who vote decide nothing. The people WHO COUNT the vote decide everything.” -Josef Stalin (supposedly)
“There’s really no point to voting. If it made any difference, it would probably be illegal.” -HL Menchen (verified)
On wells and dowsers and other things –
Underground water in these Southern Appalachians where I live, is a hit-or-miss business. You can have a 300 foot well that flows 50 GPM, and the closest neighbor will have a 500 foot well that barely flows at all.
And it all is dependent on the underlying geology – and on a relatively “micro” scale, too.
I’ve seen dowsing done, successfully, to locate an underground sewer line, for a single residence in a crowded neighborhood. This was back in the early ’60’s, and long before everybody and his brother had electronics for locating stuff underground. So – I’m saying I’ve seen dowsing work incredibly well, in the hands of a practitioner who “BELIEVED!”
My well driller did his own dowsing.
He picked a piss-poor location for my well.
Somebody told me later that my drillers dowsing rods always seems to cross magically – precisely at the location where his drilling rig would easily back up into.
My well went down 500 feet. That’s at $10.00 per foot, without pump, wires, controller, pipe, and tank. Originally, my well flowed about one pint per minute. It was one sad well.
I hired a crew to videotape the inside of the well, followed by -GASP- “hydrofracturing” of the rock surrounding the well.
Now bless Betsy, after the fracking, I’ve got good water flow, even though my pump hangs only about 250 feet down into the well.
I still believe in dowsing, in the right hands.
But now I believe in fracking, too.
Your description of the randomness of finding water in the southern Appalachians is true in the southern Greens. It’s all a crap shoot. That is why using a dowser ahead of time is worth the effort. Preferably a dowser you know. My sympathies for your poor results, however the story of the driller’s dowsing wands magically crossing where easy access for his rig had me chuckling…
Ctrades said “Since it’s no longer possible to victimize minorities, women, or the mentally handicapped, cats do nicely. And it will only get worse as the oil dries up and there is nothing to replace it.”
What will be difficult to replace is the 40 pounds of kitty litter your little rug-rat shits and pees in. I was examining a bucket of this shit the other day, thinking to myself what resources it takes to sop up cat piss and shit. I mean, there are over 900 million cats in North America, and not one of these worthless hides is indigenous. We feed them chickens, tuna, turkeys, cows, and clear and plant wildlife habitat so the addled can have their cat-fancy.
When the trucks stop bringing the kitty litter, what happens? I’ll tell you what happens. Hundreds of millions of cats pissing and shitting all over the landscape, leaving indelible smells in the carpets, floors, and walls of abodes. Their fecal matter will ooze and spread and hitch rides on human feet all over the landscape leaving trichomoniasis and toxoplasma spores everywhere.
And when your friend finds her “xxxxx” rural place, 20 miles from “xxxxx” make sure she brings her diseased little pet animals! That will ensure she will be soft and addled when my goon squad shows up to rob the place blind. Muhahaha!
The bulbous hood, the diesel throb & stink, the false front grill and maybe a big set of ram horns – just to complete the testosterone + 92 octane-equivalant fueled rutting display.
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Excellent and Kunstler-like … laughed my ass off.
BTW, it’s equivalent but I’ll let you slide.
I barely paid attention to the Super Bowl. I did catch few commercials and the halftime show. Sad to say I am embarrassed to even call myself an American after that gross display of ignorance. I feel like an alien on this planet myself. I don’t understand what is going through people’s heads with that stuff. Anyway, I found a funny blog that sort of does try to explain some of it.
http://squarerootofzero.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/universe-of-absurdity/
Enjoy!
Well, I do admire Madonna. She didn’t trip (as far as I could tell) and apparently sang with her own lungs (although who can tell these days. She clearly runs the show, and M.I.A. was a good choice, a real firecracker, giving the finger. Her lyric “Music makes the bourgeois wanna rebel” is pretty awesome for use of the word ‘bourgeois’.
Music does wanna make the bourgeois rebel. Music was used to fine effect. When the heartstrings of America needed plucking, bluegrass stepped in.
I admire Madonna for her accomplishments and the stage show number was marvellously choreographed. The dancers were conspicuously athletic, the wire-walker was a surprise. The video projected display melded seamlessly with the lit stage. The illusions were top-notch.
SB XLVI featured lots of aging boomer icons, and among those, Madonna was the best presented. After all, you know Madonna works out and eats healthy. She’s been fighting gravity the longest time and it shows. Thats a real accomplishment worthy of respect.
The Motley Crue drummer? Doesn’t eat right, obviously. It made me curious to find out what Clint Eastwood eats. I’ll bet hes a vegetarian.
Good points. What is cat litter and its packaging actually made from (oil and trees, I suspect).
Lets see, 900 million cats clawing, screeching, retching and shitting over my immobilized and starving figure – my doom scenario is complete. And thanks for that.
PS
Lost in all the goofy hoopla is the fact that the game itself was pretty damn good – Incredibly skillful play with very few fouls!
The human condition is basically the delusion of the Ego. People that we consider “superior” are largely considered superior because they have some special ability or characteristic (e.g., more money, more power, gifted at physics, playing the guitar, etc. etc.), but they all have the same character flaws, flaws which relate to their Ego. Hence, everyone appears to be a constant state of individual or collective ego masturbation.
In the Eastern mystic tradition, the superior man is he/she who through mental training extinguishes his/her Ego.
That settles it! Obama was beamed down from an alien spaceship to become the Manchurian candidate of the Klingons.
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I have some thoughts on the relative non-participation of women as to the Super Bowl and football in general. My thoughts are based on the admittedly too small statistical sample size of my wife.
Various male members of our family (one son, Uncle Pete, son-in-law Ed and myself) are totally into pro football from the pre-season right through to SB Sunday. Though we are scattered geographically we will stay in touch before, during and after the games via text messages, email and cell phone. Every nuance is discussed as if it actually had meaning in the grand scheme of the universe.
Family life in the four households involved must be scheduled around and within the pro schedule. Since this heavily involves the timing and nature of meals it tends to suck my wife unwillingly into the vortex. And fights erupt when she learns that a movie she had her heart set on going to see conflicts with the Jets on “Sunday Night Football.” And then there are those occasional Thursday night games when it all gets to be a bit much. Throw into this picture the fact that I simultaneously follow Rutgers football and will also watch just about any televised college game that catches my fancy.
It is nigh on impossible for her not to absorb some tidbits of what is happening but because of her underlying utter glazed-eyes disinterest it’s all a big jumble in her mind. She DOES try, bless her heart. Sometimes she wants to change the channel because she’s “sick of watching a bunch of huge dirty sweating men jumping on one another.”
Every week I find myself describing anew about the team’s need to gain 10 yards in four “downs” (what’s a down?), what the yellow and red flags are all about, etc. Certain prominent player names register vaguely because of a unique back story like the Manning brothers or the whole thing with Tebow and his religious shtick, but she can’t really keep it straight what teams these stars are associated with. Yesterday she got it in her head that Peyton was playing against Tebow. (“NO NO, Tebow’s with Denver and it’s Eli that’s with the Giants” I groaned for the umpteenth time.)
So, you can just imagine the trouble I had explaining the 2 point “safety” in the first quarter and why the running back tried NOT to cross the goal line with a minute left in the game but fell into the end zone due to unimpeded momentum etc. Well, I might just as well have tried explaining quantum mechanics to my 90-year old mother-in-law.
When it comes to football your average man and woman are two different species.
And may I say, Mr. Kunstler, you deserve a medal for your Madonna-bashing, for you can get in a whole lot of trouble for that. Rock critic Dave Marsh may have set the parameters for all the kisses her posterior has received when he wrote the following:
“Madonna’s music tended toward the black and Latin. So did her boyfriends. It’s hard not to imagine that the young white males who raged against her hardest didn’t find something out of order there.”
So, if you hate Madonna, and you’re a white guy, that automatically means you’re a bigot. And it also means you’re also a nasty, horrid person sick with hatred and musical snobbery. Hey, why not? That’s the criticism I got for daring to bash Madonna. And you know what horrible taste we white guys have in music, what with all those seventies classic rockers we idolize . . .
Oh yeah, there wasn’t a single honky supporting Madge at the Super Bowl halftime show. She must have had the time of her life dancing on the grave of electric guitar rock. And she must get a thrill to know that she’s a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame laureate and Jethro Tull’s Ian Anderson still has to pay to get into the building. Anyone know where those Rush records went?
I looked at the Clint Eastwood halftime commercial with a certain sadness because, actually, I’m a sucker for the underdog and Clint was there telling us that even though we’re hurting and divided, we can still be Rocky Balboa.
However, unlike Reagan’s “Morning in America” speech of thirty years ago, Clint might be about six years too late on this speech because a chipper attitude simply the bankers are going to insist of making indentured servants out of every last debtor who owes them a buck because they need that second house in the Hamptons more than John and Jane Doe need a roof over their heads.
Some of what Clint said is actually true. Detroit and Michigan have made a bigger economic comeback than Illinois or any other neighboring Iron Belt state. However, as we all know, much of that has been due to incentives to push future demand into the present. How long the comeback will last is problematic, especially in Q2/Q3/Q4 of this year since the indications are the best we can hope for is a mild recession.
Still, I felt that the Eastwood commercial on behalf of Chrysler was at least PARTIALLY grounded in reality and conveyed a sentiment that I certainly cannot object to … except for the “roaring engines” part. Eastwood did note that we are a hurting, divided culture. Any message worth listening to has to start with sober facts as a premise if they are to be taken at all seriously.
E.
Ahem, ahem (clearing throat). I must defend cats. You speak of 900 million in North America; I believe there are 55 million in the US, so I doubt the 900 mil figure.
Cat feces being carried everywhere? Yuck. But funny thing – what happens to human feces? Does it magically disappear? Or does it get flushed away, only to reappear in altered form in ocean outflows? Where fish drink it from the water and ends up in your tuna sandwich. Gross. So animal eaters eat shit. Of course, using horse manure to fertilize lawns, etc. means even vegetarians eat shit. Can’t get away from it.
My cat’s litter is made from corn – maybe I can recycle it into ethanol and use it to power my car. And cats have a pact with humans. We care for the cat and it rids our territory of filthy rodents (except for mouse and rat body parts the little kitty thoughtfully leaves on our front steps as gifts) in return. Even though cats are relentless, malevolent, vicious killers, they are good to us. Kind of like our military.
So remember, the next time you want to disparage a sweet little, fluffy mammal like a feline domesticus, think twice. Yuh ah aah (twirling my mustache ala Dishonest John. Remember him, Beanie?)
Do you know why I’m stupid? I do. The reason I’m so terribly stupid is because: even though I read all these alternative blogs and so forth; I still live the same way. I still go to the mall… play the stock market — then look outside my window for the impending doom like it might be entertaining, not like a nightmare. In sum, I’m stupid because I’m frozen, paralyzed. I don’t know how to act. We own some farmland, 40 acres in southern Minnesota. But we just rent it to a guy who grows Monsanto crap on it. We don’t know how to act. We don’t know what’s next, really. And I’m here in limbo. And I’m definitely one of us, one of use stupid people — a sheeple.
You’re not “stupid”, rather you’re a creature-of-habit. Moreover, when confronted with the choice of choosing between believing that something horrible will happen to you and your family, and the much more remote possibility that life will simply continue on as before, most people will always choose to be in denial. This explains why most Jews did not flee Na//zi Ger many even when the writing-was-on-the-wall, so to speak.
A poignant example of the apparent limitless capacity for human denial would be the case of the guards handing the prisoners a towel and a bar of soap and asking them to take a “shower”.
Lying to the people is necessary to control the people. For example, the Khmer Rouge told the people evacuating Phnom Penh that they were being evacuated because the U.S. was going to bomb the city, and they would return to Phnom Penh after 3 days.
“Folks who seem to easily grasp the concept of peak oil and collapse of rapacious consumerist societies are in a complete denial when it comes to acknowledging the glaringly obvious and vastly different evolutionary outcomes for blacks and non-blacks.
Incredible…”
Incredible indeed.
I tried to hint in this direction on the LATOC forum a few years ago. These brainwashed baby boomer liberals who claim to believe in free speech jumped on me life the fucking gestapo. They have absolutely no frontal lobe awareness of the demographic dimensions of our moment.
Hopeless.
Other more recent examples of the apparent limitless capacity for human denial are:
a. Obama’s signing statement to the NDAA; and
b. Obama’s assertion that we’ve got a 100-year supply of domestic natural gas reserves.
I’m seein only one answer to your dilemma there RIPPEDTHUNDER.
Latex over lizard skin.
And “A Lumpen Worken’ Dude” means exactly what to you wine drinkers and wind surfers? I’d much rather have them come pull me out of a ditch or save me from a harrasser than the John Kerry type. In case you haven’t noticed, not just Re-publicans are fat. Some of your esteemed Ivy Leagures are pretty rotund. Bringing us into why it’s witty and instructive when you call our side names, but silly and demented when we return the slur. Define a CornPone Nazi to me, which shouldn’t be hard, then go out and find one for evidence. Be sure he knows how to cut a bull and a ram, bob the tails of the lambs, and de-horn the cattle. Make sure he knows what breed they are and what that breed was bred to do. You might gain a little respect for the old fashioned working man who can make you sick with shame. You’re already up to your eyes in bullshit, you just can’t identify the odor.
Reference:
http://instantsingularity.blogspot.com/
Ok, it no longer belongs in the Rant House…
Reference:
http://brainmeta.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22324
Ok, it no longer belongs in the Rant House…
Reference:
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/63868-information-relationship/
Ok, it no longer belongs in the Rant House…
I fear you’ve just done a disservice to lemurs and Holstein steers.
The “lumpenprole” was the colloquial term for the vast number of underclass previous to the early 20th century in Europe.
The lumpenprole worked in factories and made the sheap scheers you use on the goats, as a matteroffact. As opposed ot today, when Sam Walt-Mart sells you CHeEP SHEARS from China, that don’t WERK!!
Excuse my Buck’s County accent.
BTB said “You speak of 900 million in North America; I believe there are 55 million in the US, so I doubt the 900 mil figure.”
Did I say 900 mil? Oh sorry, I thought we were talking the distance in miles a Caesar salad travels to reach its destination on an interstellar mission to Mars, not cats.
BTB: “Cat feces being carried everywhere? Yuck. But funny thing – what happens to human feces?”
Human feces is by and large controlled by human brains, as opposed to cats, which, will shit just about anywhere.
The future of humanity is not anxle deep in its own filth; its how India got by for thousands of years right up to the present day.
You just cop a squat in the various designated public waste pits.
BTB: “Even though cats are relentless, malevolent, vicious killers, they are good to us. Kind of like our military.”
Who could ask for anything more? Toyota.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zheMsRE7faw
BTB: ”
Thanks to everyone who voted for Jill Stein (and not for Roseanne Barr).
Jill Stein took 90% of the votes. A big victory!
Romney only has a chance if people vote for him.
Obama only has a chance if people vote for him.
Jill Stein can win if people vote for her.
PoC said “Beyond that, the number of posters who write in to express their prideful non-watching of the super Bowl spectacle is a little off-putting, to say the least. Just watch the stupid thing next year,”
I tend to agree.
The Super Bowl IS the national holiday.
I actually sat next to a black man and it was fine. We watched the game together.
The racial harmony was palpable. Well, it cut through the white guilt…
NFL football features no racism, sexism, nudity, or even bad language or even politics. Nothing but a beatific theme of tolerance and unity in sportsmanship.
All that other shit comes in as advertising. Anyone who pretends that they can block it out is lying to themselves.
It is gladiators in a coliseum…
even if the gladiators are suffering Torn ACLs, sprains, and concussions, and instead of a bread-munching lumpenprole, It is millions of diabetic cheeze-doodle munchers that collectively produce 25% of the world’s pollution…
According to harper’s only 1 in 7 working americans are of average weight and not have a mental condition. (somewhere someone of average weight that has a mental condition is saying “uh huh. Yup.”)
The Super Bowl is probably the greatest spectacle our global civilization will ever achieve.
Who wants to read Socrates when you can DVR the image of a man’s chin being shaved by laser-guided razors in slow motion, not even realize it. Or be mesmerized by vampiric femme fatales as you are pitched soft drinks or colognes.
The human drama of athletes competing is emphasized by the camera, the wide helmet openings, the sheer number of faces.
The viewer assumes a superposition of extreme power. He sees all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyfdoZldrS4
Look again.
We are seeing the Egyptian goddess and empress, Cleopatra.
Lotta messages in there, a middle finger too. But not bad. Not bad at all.
This brought a tear to my eye.
The girl sings so beautifully. Grown men crying, ritually swaying back and forth.
Children, hopefully well paid for, singing their guts out.
http://youtu.be/ov9wZ_sTSxY
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Amplify Random
Nature alone does create random, quirk, details, fluke details and chaos, turbulence and such. But by creating Free Will Decision Points flung upon the sea of random (through Man Brains and similar structures and Interactors) it can create even more Random it can amplify and create even more hard to predict and patternize details and noise: so many individual and independent logical segments interacting (sometimes ? every now and then ? always etc.?) and colliding, each with their own special mental model or assumed mental model of the world and what their goals are (or sometimes as just an instant reaction in an action reaction circuit ? or sometimes deeply meditated and pondered upon (maybe for years just for one small Decision Point ?)) as in opposition and sometimes as in contribution and accumulation and all the intermediate mixes create a strange mix of random and pattern, strange artificially higher randomized configurations of Matter: as if Matter needs free will decision points to create even more contorted patterns, just look at all the details (cracks on the walls, designs, pebbles on the street, etc.) in buildings in cities as a result of the forces of random and people, etc.
As an example, all places have the Standard International buildings, boxes, midrises, suburb houses and such. But many cities have a structure where everyplace, every street or corner has a signature, is different from any other street or combination (in same city) as opposed to others that are very monotonous like London. Tokyo or Seoul or Paris have each place and street with a signature, London most places are the same style houses so very few signature.
Also, in brainium, if everything is a brain, then there are more brains than information for those brains to process, it is the other way around, there is not enough information for the brains themselves to process, hence they process other brains, and even the information becomes brains, etc. all reciprocal.
At what point does a technology become a science ? at what point do we confuse a technology with science ? When did computer become “Computer Science” so to say, and is it a Natural Science ? If so then why isn’t the game of Chess also simply a Natural Science ? and then why not Soccer or American Football a science ? a real science ? In this respect, we are not the “View from Nowhere” that science supposes it has, we are always the view from somewhere, from someplace, from some cultural or experience reference system, from some language construct, thought construct and memory organization of knowledge implied by a culture, civilization, tribe.
The discrepancies: the three body problem has no analytical solution (no precise solution in mathematical terms), the differential equations describing mathematical physics have very rarely precise, closed form analytical solutions, initial conditions must be imposed but are always iffy, random, not sure and not precise, non linearities abound, chaotic systems discovered, the butterfly effect ? and mostly look around you, can you give me the equation and precise solution that determined a given design of a given mountain ? can you precisely predict the exact shape of the next waveform of an ocean wave ? can you tell me exactly where the next raindrop will fall ? (but then again nature operates by simply yes and no and some intermediate state, it doesn’t need precision, it doesn’t care about precision, nature is very approximate, likes to make rough approximations like it will rain today or it will not, it doesn’t even know or have within itself the precise capability to know, care or even imagine where the exact next raindrop will fall, it knows it only after the fact, nay, not even after the fact, not even history is true, nay, it doesn’t and will never know, nothing will ever know, not even knowing itself knows…). These are all the walls of the reference system science is boxed up in, its perfect mathematical viewpoint breaks down as soon as you exit its reference system: in that case only the interaction and measurement and observation gives you some information, but information that rarely can be built upon to create a prediction as in : Thought is the Sickness, Measurements and Observations are the Cure.
When I saw the first pictures of the neural circuits in brains, I was amazed by how random, chaotic and non sensical it seemed, since I was used to digital electronics and Microprocessor Schematics. Now, I know that reality has no sense or logic, only that which we impose upon it by our thought, logic and our own schematics.
So, at what point does a technology become a science ? it is actually Science that is a Technology, in a very subtle way, and we don’t notice it, but Science is a Technology: and this is what will be important when we start to directly modify our Mind Brain Design and change the way it works, thinks, its organizations, its sensations, its experiences and such. We will invent a new and real Science, a Science much closer to reality and much more real than anything our Civilization could have even imagined up to now…
Is Reality Physics – Mathematics ?
The unreasonable precision with which mathematics describes reality has always puzzled physicists. The reason is most likely because the reality described is not really a reality and is much more so a Technology: an invention, mostly a machine, as most of those equations and interactions and experiments and laws have been furnished by how machines and devices interact with some kind of detached reality, a reality that is in essence pretty far away from nature, if with nature you mean the pure random blind forces operating under nature like inside stars (plasmas), the forces modeling the earth (earthquakes, mountain formation), the weather and most of the random natural events that occur like ocean waves and their exact form and design (can you predict them with mathematical precision ?). Of course we know and can apply mathematics to all of such, we know the general forces and such, but the precision is no longer “unreasonable”.
So what scientists do is confuse technology with nature, confuse a mathematical model and description and design of technological machines with nature, as if the technology is nature: but it is not so, technology is a very specifically configured slab of matter that closely follows and abides to mental, linguistic and especially mathematical models: what came first the technological machine and interaction or the mental mathematical model ? Mostly the other way around, the mental mathematical models influenced what kinds of contraptions we would design according to clear cut needs and functions according to how we interact with reality.
SO in essence, there is no “unreasonable precision” of mathematics to reality, but only a mostly reasonable precision of mathematics to machines that interact with reality and confuses us into thinking that they are reality. Like a particle accelerator: are they simply studying an engineered device or really studying the laws of physics ?
Matter is set up so as to express mathematical relationships, so as to emphasize mathematical relationships. Our mathematical models are more than anything mostly machines, mental models of machines that are providing us a function and as such easily lend themselves to models and especially mathematical models. Since the functions and operations the machines must provide have been defined and created within a mental model of reality through language, they already, from the outset have properties that imply models and eventually mathematical, precision models, models where you can apply equations and predictions and perfect them accordingly, but because the function is clearly defined and clearly delimited by language and the model and then mathematical models further delimit and perfect them: and then machines are designed and constructed and experimented within a very controlled and predictable environment, no free wills opposing their forces to what the machines must do, no random forces and quirk details messing up models like what happens in most of real natural systems and not modelized and forced systems carving their function out of reality, by force.
The Laws of Identity and Non Contradiction (should more correctly be named the Principles of Identity and Non Contradiction, since they are the very first principles from which all else is derived from) is in truth a Momentary Lapse of Reasoning “Matter” or “Mass Energy” or more correctly the “Monolithic Slab of Pure Existence as Delimited by Logical Entities” has in order to momentarily observe itself, contradict itself and then vanish again to where it all belongs, namely a place where all contradictions are operating, nothing is identified as distinct from anything else, all is real and fake, and so on, the more absurd and crazy the closer we get to some very remote and vague and indirect approximation of what all of reality is.
Obviously, the above block of text has absolutely nothing to do with what I wanted to say, it is 100 % unrelated, disjoint and not connected or associated with what I wanted to express…good luck in trying to figure out what I wanted to say…
write anything at all, no matter how wrong, idiotic and insane, just BS forever on the Internet, it is all OK, it is all fine, it is all good…
Write as many false and wrong ideas as possible, be creative and colorful, go man go, you can do it, just do it….
There is a simpler way to refute and demolish the laws of Identity and Non Contradiction: In order to state them, their opposite must exist, they must be compared to what their reciprocal would state, they must create their own existence by measuring themselves (and being measured by other entities and Other Observers ) against what they would mean if they weren’t true. But since all Metaphysical Items and Entities have existence because they are independent of any kinds of constraints, those laws are false.
So,now that the Laws of Identity and Non Contradiction have been totally refuted, have been finally demonstrated to be false, we can finally solve all of the “Unresolved Internal Conflicts” Reality (and Man Brains, especially) have: we can now invent all and have fun, we can transform reality into what we want it to be, no longer slaves of logic, and fixed circuits, now we are finally free, free your mind, you are free, God has finally set you free.
THis implies that making things up, saying lies, all kinds of lies is the truth, lies are all true now, you are allowed to SAY THINGS WHICH ARE NOT TRUE BECAUSE YOU HAVE BECOME THE BOSS OF REALITY, YOU HAVE BECOME YOUR OWN BOSS!!!
PLease, tell me lies, please lets create a new fake reality full of lies, please all lie, lie forever, make it pretty, make it better, I don’t care if it is true or false, just lie and make it pretty, pretty please, will you ?
And Jesus Speaks to Little Children and
BEWARE OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST
The Laws of Indentity and Non Contradiction are Impossible
Uh, oh, here we go again. I know, you will all say but you are using those laws to demonstrate that they are not true: but we always use things as though they were outside of themselves to pretend that they are false, eveything is outside of itself and disjoint, everything is using itself outside of itself to contradict itself and such (add as much confusion as possible, the confusion and vague mode of thought will set you free), everything is the outside looking in and using itself, or better instances of itself as distinct entitites, etc. (and the imporant thing is only if the block of text, the sequeuce of symbols “makes you feel good”, as if “you have achieved” and “won”, and you force it, just win and feel good, just do it, ignore all the clowns who want to contradict you, they are jealous and envious that you have won and feel good (and we can even just feel good independent of any sequence of symbols, just because, for fun, and then associate that feeling with any sequence and make yourself win and feel better ever more as in pure delusion of self, ever more pure delusion, lie, as in lying to yourself, illusions will set you free, ever more illusions..)).
If something is always different from other entitites and distinct then nothing could possibly exist because all entities would have to be ever different and not even separate space or points in time could cancel the fact that at least something, somewhere must be pure contradiction acheived, must deny and contradict the laws of identity: if you take the limit of any entity as space and time and any other properties tend towards zero and consider all of its constituent parts as those limits tend to zero, as the constituents become ever more smaller, but always distinct, you would reach a point of the entity simply vanishing since it could not support the rule of identity past a certain point, it would have to be a pure monolithic slab of contradiction and identity denied in order to simply exist, the algortihm and computer program of the law of identity and non contradiction must abruptly end in order for it to even exist, the monolithic slab of pure contradiction would have to be a distinct, disjoint delimited section of existence somewhat analogous to the limits of the observable universe, to a black hole event horizon and such, it would have to be a kind of reference point against which the rest of the ensemble of existing entites would compare themselves in order to exist, it would have to be a point zero in a reference system of reciprocal definitions…
But this slab of pure contradiction isn’t in any point of space or time, isn’t anywhere, but exactly for this is everywhere in a sense, of course, the abstractions and denotations continue to be ever harder to comprehend for our puny mind, but the sense of all is pure contradiction, pure non identity, all is the opposite of itself, all is a contradiction of its own existence, the laws of identity and non contradiction are the greatest lie and hoax in history, are totally impossible and crazy. There. I said it.
Now go on, and say I am wrong, go on and don’t make me win, but I win always, I win! I win! there, go away cray babies, I win! I win!
“So atoms are perfect mathematical equations. Matter is mathematics. So a completely simulated universe on a computer is just as real as ours. So reality is base on pure logic-mathematical systems and there are no other “metaphysical” aspects to matter-reality. Well then this reality is completely abstract and senseless, it is just a series of Feynman Integrals describing particle interactions. No, I think this is completely wrong, atoms have cracks on them, just like walls, and the level of details and complexities of the real world is infinite. What is at the center of an electron? what is the world like at 10^-100000000 mm size level ?”
Atoms are full of wild cracks all over them, they are crazy entities, so much crazy and wild random detail and all of those bozos want to describe them with equations!?!? I can’t believe it…
TOBOR THE 8 MAN
Another huge logical mistake is when they ask what is the probability of Life or the first cell and things like that: well it doesn’t matter what the probability is, It Just Happened. End of Story. There is nothing to explain, a random sequence of events occurred and created the first living cell, and then Man and whatever. But even if it were a one shot creation from nothing, well, there is nothing wrong with that either, It Just Happened, For No Reason at All, Just Because, For Fun.
And even if it was God who just did it, well who cares ? Anything goes, it is all just a random event, just a wild number picked out of a bag full of wild numbers, there is nothing left to explain, no relationships to discover or invent or uncover, etc.
This is real science since the simplest explanation is the correct one and no explanation is the correct one and best one. But even if this explanation is wrong, well who cares ? Be Your Own Boss.
And Busty, you snotty snob, always criticizing this and that and the USA, whoah! 99 % of all past (and present) countries and civilizations were (are) way worst from all points of views from the USA, you just have this absurd Idealism and Utopia view of the world having to be exactly as some kind of perfect mental model you impose on it: well guess what ? Your model sucks, is wrong, is a fairy tale, suck it up. We need trillions pf Pickups and cars and Jets and Skyscrapers, we need thousands of trillions of gadgets and devices and buildings, cement, steel, concrete, Rockets, you name it.
Now, as*hole, did you build those 768 thousand trillion 1966 Oldsmobile Ninety Eights that I told you to be build ? Why not ? Why are you not obeying me ? I am your Boss, I command you to build them NOW! Understand ? Please finish building them all by tonight, I need a ride…
TOBOR THE EIGHTH MAN
From:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=177982
Reference:
http://instantsingularity.blogspot.com/
Ok, it no longer belongs in the Rant House…
And Busty, you snotty snob, always criticizing this and that and the USA, whoah! 99 % of all past (and present) countries and civilizations were (are) way worst from all points of views from the USA, you just have this absurd Idealism and Utopia view of the world having to be exactly as some kind of perfect mental model you impose on it: well guess what ? Your model sucks, is wrong, is a fairy tale, suck it up. We need trillions of Pickups and cars and Jets and Skyscrapers, we need thousands of trillions of gadgets and devices and buildings, cement, steel, concrete, Rockets, you name it.
Now, as*hole, did you build those 768 thousand trillion 1966 Oldsmobile Ninety Eights that I told you to be build ? Why not ? Why are you not obeying me ? I am your Boss, I command you to build them NOW! Understand ? Please finish building them all by tonight, I need a ride…
TOBOR THE EIGHTH MAN
GG!!! Revenues flow into the Indiana rust belt!!!
Hell, The Bay Aryan bragged about how he and his significant other spent $3-6k on 1st class round trip tickets, $2-4k for a hotel, and $8-10k ($50k?) for tickets, so he could remain imprisoned in the coliseum for a few long hours…
OOPS!!! It *STILL* all goes to the 0.1% landowners/slumlords. The poor working class (hotels, restaurants, airlines, rentals, corporate [oil?] stadiums) see *NOTHING* different, than any other day… Same old minimum wage…
Seriously? Teh NFL screened that shitty Clint Chrysler commercial? These “mass-of-morons” are so dumb, they spent the day before the superbowl, hitting advertisement pages, in the 10’s of millions. That’s how you measure stupidity – people are actually trying/wanting to watch these adds (ADHD so prevalent now, with most TV programs running 5 minutes airtime, 5 minutes full-on subliminal hypnotic brainwashing in 30 second bursts).
Something missed seems to be the uselessness of goofball, and the major salaries that the useless meatheads earn. Supported by 20% auto adds, and the rest doritos/pepsi/useless poison. Was there a single advertiser that was useful in any way? (most were just pure poison – hydrogenated vegetable oil, high fructose corn syrup, ETF trading, gas *GUZZLIN*!!!)
Like a VIRGIN, indeed – was good in 1984 (45’F to 115’F same day @ 4 corners) – not so much *NOW*…
The malls are goin’ out of business due to big box/internet sales, *NOT* due to public transportation (light rail/busses). I refuse to use public transportation anymore, here in Portland, Oregon – the literal “peak” of public transport. They shit down our (*MY*) neck – raising the prices exhorbitantly, and cutting out routes, especially late night and weekends. I can use my motorcycle for 1/3 the cost of light rail, 2x as fast, and not have to worry about waiting for late night bus transfers (1 hour layover, and 4-6x as long). Portland screwed the *POOCH* on public transport – they seriously fucked it up hardcore…
And that is sad, indeed – as I used public transportation buses *solely* from 1994-1997, and public transportation light rail from 1998-2006. They really fucked it up, tho, and I’ll drive 30 minutes on a motorcycle, before I pay $6 for a day pass that forces me to get back on light rail before 11PM…
Hey, Juletta, my girlfriend is back! By the way, did you read my last comments to you, honeybunch ?
http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/01/murmuration.html#comment-114033
Ok, I see you get the message, I will refrain from being “vulgar”…
And get a Man with a Big Pickup….
AN APE
I meant Juletta, which is my new girlfriend (don’t be jealous and envious Busty, now it’s my turn to have some fun, and she is Hot and Horny and has Big B*obs…)…
Please, Juletta, study this and all of these kinds of posts very deeply and seriously, thank you, I am your Boss now…
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=177939
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Thank You.
“True Israelites know that God works through His Natural Laws most of the time.”
We are not communicating. Here is how it works; I give you A, then you give me back the part of A that indicates you understand and acknowledge A. *Then* you present B and I give you back the part of B that indicates I understand and acknowledge B. If there is something about A or B that you and I don’t understand and acknowledge then we can hash it out. I already know about W.
Do you think the israelites believed {obeyed] Duet. 23?
I hope you’re not counting Van Halen and other late ‘seventies acts as “classic rock”, just because they get airtime on so called classic rock stations. To me not even Aerosmith counts as real classic rock because they showed up to the party too late to get in. On the other hand I would count the early prog rockers such as Yes and Emerson, Lake & Palmer as classic rock. Also some early Steely Dan, even if such bands were too sophisticated perhaps. Steely Dan gets a lot of play on jazz oriented stations, for instance. I also have a problem with Bruce Springsteen for being too late. Anyone who happened along much later than a couple of years after the Beatle’s breakup is not original classic rock. Which brings us to the worst offenders of all: Journey. And yes, it is an abomination that Jethro Tull has not yet been inducted into the Rock Hall of fame here in Cleveland, the Mistake by the Lake, but at least there’s a good radio station set up there which is on satellite radio and features Dusty Rhodes as one of the DJs.
You missed the biggest symbol of them all: the GIANTS defeated the PATRIOTS. The big corporations have defeated the little man. It hurts.
Youch! Talk about inchoate howling of the Id!
How much time do you suppose it takes for old (and “their” multiple incarnations) to manufacture those lengthy primal screams? Jeeeeeeeze; I guess making ceramic tile ashtrays, those woven pot-holders, and paint-by-numbers is not quite the time-filler/Id-suppressor at ol’ Greystone Manor Asylum that it once was. “Damnit, Ji-em, I’ve adjusted the dosages, but he’s still crazy as a shit-house rat! I’m a DOCTOR, not a miracle worker!” -McCoy ;o)
(Was it watching too many commercials that didn’t let Mama Nature finish her job hard-wiring the gray matter? We’ll never be allowed to know. ;o)
Oopsie! I guess now we’ll have to hire the Brave Little Tailor to bring ’em down. …Or perhaps The Man with No Name. Oh, that’s right, he’s busy with Chrysler ads.
Good catch, NightHorse.
Madonna at halftime! What a joke. If I am going to watch some female prance around at halftime, it’s sure not going to be some dried-up old bat like Madonna. I want to see a tight-bodied hottie exposing an indecent amount of flesh. Talk about cognitive dissonance! All the lard ass hombres who hanker after large pickup trucks want to see Madonna? Well, maybe it makes sense: she’s as shriveled up as the lard-asses’ peckers.
Indeed Mr. Klein, and hello Jim (JHK) and the regular CFN’ers…
Just a quickie ping in today, I sought out and watched yesterday that lame lip-sync’d plastic-pop-product-over-pampered chickadee ‘Madge’ strut her half-time track mash… oh dear?
She badly managed tottering about in those fetish heel boots, she took several stumbles, and though her physical testament to cosmetic surgery’s a nod-n-a-wink to have it all 50’s something western women, seeking wrinkle free toy-boy diverting nirvana’s…
*sniggers*
Her actual show turned out to be throw-back, barrel scrapping ole material – an Ableton Live cut-n-paste – matched with neo-nazi Rome burning branding costume/stage paraphernalia much as it was with Wacko-Jacko in his twilight zombie years – once you start wearing those fascist miltel neo-nazi get-ups… well the ‘real’ innovation is truly over.
I though it to be a hilarious Zeitgeist of the current mainstream 21st century age, ultra naff, all pomp and very little circumstance…
At least our eurozone Rugby football still harks back to a previous age involving ‘real’ muscle, sinew stretch sweat, dirt and well earned team glory…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Vi5-K_5w0
A bit like our ‘real’ rock bands of old too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFQI-u5ExUE
As I said a wee while back, artificial is so over now, and most are simply waiting for a true knock-down, bitchslap smack of wake-up reality… when you get it… the right perspective comes quickly back into view…
(‘Talentism’ is indeed the only way forward)
Be seeing you…
Vlad I think you are dealing from weakness, all we “white males” have fallen for that failed model, its what professional conservatism is built on, being the loser.
I could care less about Israel, except our part in the future mass murders which the middle east will become where all of them will pay dearly.
Blacks are hapless, the Democratic party propaganda machine even tells us this.
Liberalism is over. The movie remake “The Island of Dr. Moreau” with Kilmer, Brando is basically liberalism’s path.
Question for you lefties, what do you think of Clint Eastwood’s implicit appeal to white men?
Another question of you “liberals” what of this paen to white males “Act of Valor?” Any opinions of this movie.
For a little background the SEALS are a very white men dominated outfit. Yes they do have some Asians and occasionaly a black man (very good story of a black officer who taught himself how to swim so he could join a few years back).
As for frontline units the Marine Corps’ combat units are now whiter than when I was in 81-85.
With those unpleasant facts in mind, any opinions on this movie?
all we “white males” have fallen
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http://youtu.be/K7zNY0I5JNI
Oscar Goldman: Steve Austin, astronaut
a man barely alive
Gentlemen we can rebuild him
We have the technology
We have the capability
to make the worlds first bionic man
Steve Austin will be that man
Better than he was before
Better, Stronger, Faster
LOL!
If the Kali Yuga really is near, then the last group liberals need to be dissing is Red State white men.
“Vote for Jill Stein, Green Party.”
Suckers. How do you propose to clean up the environment, block mineral extraction on federal lands, and promote collective bargaining rights while the oligarchy imports millions of low-skilled laborers every year? Read the Green Party’s immigration platform–they are globalist sellouts.
Perfect for Asoka!
Sounds like ‘Green Party2’
Remember the 1980s and the Nuke melt down in USSR?
Greenparty was silent!
Imagine if the melt had happened in a capitalist / free country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How the greens would have whined.
Ian anderson, when last heard of was fish farming…killing zillions of fish a year.
There are lotsa 1950s to 1980s groups that belong in HoF…that are not!
Madonna is Dance / disco but that is lumped by the lumpen with rock…
also rap acts are in hall of fame.
“Ian anderson, when last heard of was fish farming…killing zillions of fish a year.”
Yeah. Same reason cows and chickens are going extinct.
Idiot.
Anti-Gnostic said:
Suckers. How do you propose to clean up the environment, block mineral extraction on federal lands, and promote collective bargaining rights while the oligarchy imports millions of low-skilled laborers every year? Read the Green Party’s immigration platform–they are globalist sellouts.
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Or they offshore jobs TO low-paid residents of countries where multinational corporations find lax environmental restrictions and poor safety nets for workers. Globalists seem to want to improve the lot of just about every other country but their own.
The Green Party, to me, is a classic case of “the road to Hell was paved with ‘good intentions'”.
E.
Two minor quibbles: I don’t believe you meant to call Madonna a “trooper.” You might have meant “trouper,” which is something we might call someone who has long labored in showbiz. That would indicate that Madonna was/is part of a troupe, and yet she has always been a solo act. Also, not all 50 AGs have signed on to Obama’s dirty deal. There are five holdouts: Biden of Delaware, Schneiderman of New York, Harris of California, Cortez Masto of Nevada and Coakley of Massachusetts.
The Green Party’s essential flaw–in fact, the entire progressive movement’s essential flaw–is that they hate the white working class and want them displaced by Third World immigrants.
This is ironic, because black and brown immigrants do not give a rat’s ass about things like sustainable agriculture and ethical government.
When the Kali Yuga breaks, there are going to be a lot of liberals who wished they had redneck friends.
Don’t know how to respond. I seem to remember you saying that Israel was a Western Democracy we should care about a few months ago. Your 2nd paragraph where you try to express your view is too vague and brief.
Btw, I always admit that “our” Gentile Elite went along with them with enthusiasm. The Jews seem to have been more active in most areas but some of the old money folks chimed in too. And of course, the Jews reciprocated by never pointing the finger at them. Take Masonry for example: by and large for White Men with Blacks excluded, it never came up for a “review” by the Jew controlled media. They didn’t want to hurt their allies, the WASP Elite.
Liberalism is over? Yeah but they don’t get that yet. And the Leaders of Liberalism are the same as the Neo Conservatives anyway. It will go on and on for a while yet unless natural catastrophe steps in.
Anyway, I value your posts, but I’m just surprised someone who has such insight and strong convictions doesn’t seem to know anything about the Jewish aspect of the Conspiracy. In such cases, usually there’s an emotional conflict involved: part Jewish, Jewish son in law, believe they are God’s chosen etc.
Too polite? The John Birch Society bent over backwards not to mention the Jews. Did that get them any credit? “Fucking Nazis” is how Mr Kunstler characterized them. The Enemy laughs and shits on our politeness as just weakness – which it is at this point. A Gentleman of the old school can drop politeness in a heartbeat when dealing with thugs or evil. Only the pale imitators of today are unable to – by design.
Good lord Vlad that “conspiracy” we gripe about could be broken within weeks if we just started asking the right questions.
Like I said before I am a progressive and I have no desire to go thru the usual Jew/gentile games, the same destructive nonsense we always get stuck with, to our detriment.
We must admit “griping” as conservatism is reserved for losers.
8th man said “And Busty, you snotty snob, always criticizing this and that and the USA, whoah! 99 % of all past (and present) countries and civilizations were (are) way worst from all points of views from the USA…”
I have high standards, that apparently exceed expectations of reasonable standards, which you imply are the current standards, the status quo. Ah, okay. Gotcha.
“..you just have this absurd Idealism and Utopia view of the world having to be exactly as some kind of perfect mental model you impose on it: well guess what ? Your model sucks, is wrong, is a fairy tale, suck it up.”
“Perfect mental model”… thats rich. I merely suggest exploiting rather practical ideas that are safe, sane, and scalable.
My alternative model is one where no one is homeless, the poor are fed and housed, no one has a work at a job they don’t want to do, and universal health care is available. Its not a fairy tale, its reality in some countries. We could do it here, but we aren’t, because people like you are still sleepwalking through life, and the younger generations need strict indoctrination and programming to grow up to believe that this is the only possible world and that all other possibilities are “Utopian”.
“We need trillions pf Pickups and cars and Jets and Skyscrapers, we need thousands of trillions of gadgets and devices and buildings, cement, steel, concrete, Rockets, you name it.”
Your vision, your “solution” as it were, is simply recycled mega-industrialism, the conversion of natural resources to useless garbage in the name of short-term self-interest. I don’t think repeating the mistakes of the 20th century is a good idea.
What iterative, market-directed manufacturing will do is waste the remaining window of time we have to save ourselves. It will mean loading and firing the climate change gun at our own heads, and leave us knee-deep in useless intermediate technology, with no energy or resources for future generations (if they even survive).
We need only invent one thing: the genuinely better way of life, characterised by a higher quality of life, a meaningful life. That could be obtained by a society not based upon ignorance, waste, and coercion, a system based on fundamental rights and protections for the natural world and its aesthetics, with regulation of exploitative industry. People only work to dig coal out of the ground to stick in your laptop because of force- coercion. This is not a voluntary system. It is a system of masters and slaves.
But why complain about my great ideas? Wouldn’t you rather hang out with the 99%, all the regular folks with no brains and no taste falling over each other to stuff their faces and kick the can down the road? The ‘Kill Nature’ crowd is winning, why not revel in it. Oh wait- you do.
You said last week: our “White” Elite are offshoring our jobs. Well E, 40% of American Billionaires are Jewish and their percentage of the population is 3% or so. So something interesting is going on, right? Looks like the old stereotypes have some truth to them. And – they do not consider themselves White or have any loyalty to Whites. Interesting huh? Think that might have some relevance to the way things have turned out?
Now White Billionaires are all over the place politically and socially. Some Liberal, some Conservative. Some giving to Africa, some just lost in hedonism etc. The Jews in contrast are far more focused politically and socially. So if the White Billionares are a fist, the Jewish ones are a knife. Which would you rather get hit with, two square inches at thirty pounds of force moving twenty miles an hour or a 1/8 of inch at thirty pounds of force moveng twenty miles an hour?
My point: All the Billionaires share a class interest but the Jews have other collective interests. The Gentiles are far more scattered. So the Jews with their greater focus are far more powerful and determine the basic policy. The Gentiles go along for the ride. And of course, the Jews don’t go out of their way to offend powerful Gentile groups like Skull & Bones and of course Gentile Oil Men and Contractors profit from the Middle Eastern Adventure. Any potential conficts were ironed out generations ago and now the two groups intermarry. The few Gentile Billionaires who don’t like the syntheis better keep it to themselves if they exist. Not sure that they do anymore. Some of the old English Aristocrats didn’t like it but they’re gone now. There are probably millionaires who don’t like it but they’re small fry.
And some of the Jewish Elite have been influence in turn by the old “Social Gospel” of the WASP Elite. Even last century, White Aristocrats were worrying about the Africans while the White poor starved. So that was no great leap at all.
Oldsmobile88 said “Obviously, the above block of text has absolutely nothing to do with what I wanted to say, it is 100 % unrelated, disjoint and not connected or associated with what I wanted to express…good luck in trying to figure out what I wanted to say…”
So true, so true. What you need to do is start focusing on the quality of your posts. Practice Haiku.
Your vision, your “solution” as it were, is simply recycled mega-industrialism, the conversion of natural resources to useless garbage in the name of short-term self-interest. I don’t think repeating the mistakes of the 20th century is a good idea.
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Exactly.
We don’t need to make “Steve Austin” better than he was before. We need to kill him and everything that goes with him. The nazi/vatican “superman” ideology is death marketed for idiots.
Disagree strongly. The Jews like to take over movement at the top and will do exactly that to White Nationalism if allowed – and then change it to suit themselves. Several of the big Anti Jihad writers have turned out to be secret Jews like Fjordman. What does it matter? Because the focus then becomes not saving Europe but just fighting Islam with Europe expendable. Israel becomes the sacred ground that cannot be sullied. And you know how they infiltrated and took over the Republican Party right? NeoCons?
Of course politicians tend to sell out – and in fact must to win. Democracy is a downward process once you allow everyone to vote. Nick Griffin of the BNP was ordered to make the Party multi-racial and cultural. So how much is left of it? Don’t think the same thing would happen here? And how much time do we have before the majority of the young are non-White? They’re already half. It’s very late in the day and the Elite laid their Plans very well. We’ll be saved by Economic and/or Natural Disasters if at all. We should be orgainized enough to take advantage of those if and when they come.
Blacks and Whites shouldn’t marry and have kids. Whites who do should be shunned. Children should be informed that this is the consequence of miscegenation. And when they get a bit older, they should be told why it is necessary and how Blacks are not just White Men with dark skins as you believe.
Progressive? Now there’s a word that doesn’t fit you since Wage and Prog both consider themselves Progressives too and don’t consider you one.
Sometimes more words are better than few. You are obviously using the word progressive in your own way. Progressive compared to me? Perhaps, but what does the word mean in and of itself? That new is better? Really? I’m with C.S Lewis: sometimes the past is better. And sometimes progress means going back; retracing you steps to where you stepped off the trail.
When you borrow the terminology of the enemy you do so at the risk of being misunderstood.
Wow, a billion comments to get through. That’ll learn me for waiting till Tuesday to reply! Jim, my Mondays usually involve reading your blog and Chris Hedges column on Truthdig. Although you two are resonating at the same frequency, I usually read your column last because your wry humour bucks me up. Alas not this week though, I see evidence for your arguments all around me but please turn up the humour: you’re harshing my mellow!
From:
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/63951-identity-principle/
Identity Principle ?
I have issues with the Identity Principle, and it should be called Principle and not Law since it is The First Principle from which all else derives. It is just plain Wrong. That’s all. I said it. And why ? Well any entity, in order to be identical to some other entity must be exactly the same, that is it must have the same spatial, temporal coordinates and all else. But how can anything even be the same to itself if even time is always flowing and changing ? the same entity that was a moment ago is already different from the same entity at this very moment because they now occupy two different time coordinates. And no matter how small you make the time interval, it is always different, at least in that measurent. Even at 10 ^ -1000 picoseconds which is way past anything we can measure, it still represents a different number, a difference, no matter what. And at the same time all other entities are also in different time slots, and the very act of perceiving and seeing and measuring any entity implies that the signal from the entity was generated a small time ago (the entity may not even be there when you receive the signal anymore ? or may just disappear and appear and fool you if even for a very small time interval ?), so the entire deal of calling something Identical to something else, even itself, implies a rough approximation, a rough guess, just a good enough measurement, a logical measurement, good enough “for us and our uses”. Don’t get too anal, you know, just accept that it is good enough.
But that is the whole point: if the Identity Principle was declared and established exactly because the Man Brain became “too anal” on the whole deal, started to want greater precision, started to want something more solid and absolute, and wanted to create a precise logic, then why did it stop halfway and just decide, oh, it is good enough now, now we can say two things are Identical ? Because it wanted to lie to itself and fool itslef, it wanted to state the falsest Principle of all time and namely two entities must be different from each other to be distinguishable and each entity must be identical to only itself, etc. But this is not possible, all entities are constantly different from themselves if only for the flow of time, and then start putting in the small movements in space and already two of the coordinates of the same entity have changed instantly, time and space, let alone all the other trillions of measurements against that entity that can be performed from all the other entities in the Universe, all of them also changing position, time slots and even properties and all.
So the real Principle should state: No Entity is Ever Identical to Any Other Entity or Even Itself, there is Absolutely no Basis for Any Logic at all, there is No Basis to Enforce the Principles of Non Contradiction, in fact Existence and all Entities are Total Absolute and Complete Contradiction of All with Itself and with All.
We only use these Principles of Identity and Non Contradiction because they are simple gadgets that just kind of work for us, that are just comfortable approximating tools for an approximating Man Brain that just decides the truth is anything that is comfortable to itself, not really wanting to achieve absolute truth.
Just like when Einstein became too anal trying to understand time and gravity and space and discovered how “relative” it all is, I became “too anal” with the Principle of Identity and discovered that it is false, a hoax and a joke.
All Contradictions are Welcome, I thrive in being Wrong, and who said I wanted to solve any problems ? I want ever more problems impossible to resolve, I want to fail ever more in my quest to resolve problems, I want ever more problems…
“Stormin” Bob Dornan of California was literally speechless when the Mexicans voted in one of their own – after he had done so much for them. After he had betrayed his own race saying “So what if future Americans don’t have White skins and blue eyes anymore”? Of course he was a “conservative” not a Green. But the same disease. These “conservatives” would be amazed if they ever met the Founding Fathers – White Men who loved their Race and saw their Nation and Culture as an expression of It, their Religion, and their Western Heritage – Greece, Rome, the Renaissance, etc.
“And when they get a bit older, they should be told why it is necessary and how Blacks are not just White Men with dark skins as you believe.”
Do you think the israelites believed { obeyed } Duet. 23?
Pius the 12th wrote several Encyclicals against Nazism and the ideal of the Biological Nietzschean “Overman” – so you are an idiot.
A Few Technologies ?
I was noticing how the Technological Economy is really based on the discovery and use of only a handful of technologies that then lend themselves to constant improvements and refinements and such. Like Silicon Technology in Electronics and Integrated circuits and Microprocessors or the Internal Combustion Engine, or Jet Airlines, etc. These are fixed technologies that have become better and better and more refined (but Silicon Technology and Integrated circuits is a truly Free Lunch (Moore’s Law), we went from 5,000 transistor Microprocessors in 1975 to 3 billion transistor Mircroprocessors in 2011), as if in reality, you can only discover a few breakthrough technologies and then nothing more and you can only keep on refining what you discovered.
So the expectation of always new game breaking technologies is unreal and not possible: Nature just gives us a few free lunches and powerful technologies with which to refine constantly: we probably will never find the breakthrough Battery Technology or Fusion Energy Technology: what could happen is that the constant refinement of one technology may compensate the non discovery of all of the others, like a super Virtual Reality may compensate never having found Fusion technology or Light Speed Space technology and such.
And then Matter itself may only allow certain paths to be taken according to how the Observer is designed and prohibit other paths for that same Observer design: a modifed Man Brain Body (aka an Alien) that deals with completely different constraints and environments may develop an associated technology to achieve all it wants as it may be a configuration of Matter that does not prohibit it from visiting certain new configrations of matter that are an enabling technology for the alien…
I’m not sure about Classic Rock but I’m pretty sure about classic San Francisco rock…It’s A Beautiful Day-those we’re the days my friend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cin0QzuEss
Obama, the winner of the “Nobel Peace Prize” says the Drone Attacks don’t kill civilians. But in fact, the Drones go back after their initial stike and kill rescuers and also attack funerals.
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/05/u_s_drones_targeting_rescuers_and_mourners/singleton/
LOL! Vladik! The fact that you defend Pius the 12th tells all I need to know about your Pius the 12th.
full disclosure: i have always watched pro football, even while knowing it is a modern day form of gladiators, with all that goes with that…however, i detest most commercials, and literally do not remember the last time i watched the half-time show- from comments above, i aint missin’ nothin this time…that being said, i find myself, in the last year or so, less involved in the hologram; in fact i only watched about half of the games this season- and because of some of the views brought to my attention here, i ve realized that i m watching far less garbage than usual, with little patience for what looks more and more like propaganda…so thanks y all!
Which verse? It says not to despise the Egyptian or the Edomite, but to let them in after three generations. Is this what you’re saying? And that Blacks are the same? Or are they not if fact, more Moabitish, never to be allowed in?
It’s well known that the Israelites broke all their Covenants with God whether they believed them or not. The disbelief is often a later stage of denial etc.
Yes, it’s in the air and it seems to be spreading. The word, the awareness, the angst.
“Doomsday Preppers”, tonight on the National Geographic channel.
Wage Here’s one for you:
Re: US strategies in the Mid east specifically Syria Pepe Escobar is being interviewed:
http://geraldcelentechannel.blogspot.com/2012/02/pepe-escobar-on-russia-china-and-veto.html
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‘we’re’. WERE, Not we are.
‘Idiot’, no thats YOU.
Fish farming seriously endangers fish in lakes and oceans.
thanks to you and old69 for getting me through the comments faster.
everyone else, can’t we just have a little fun watching the game , driving a truck or just staring at the sky. i hope their is a little fun even after the s— hits the fan.
Yes absolutely. I keep the “It’s a Beautiful Day” CD in my car to this very day. I also have Jefferson Airplane CDs as well. While taking friends from Albuquerque on a tour of the Rock Hall of Fame Museum here in Cleveland I learned what a Jefferson Airplane was: a roach mounted on a toothpick to facilitate those last few tokes! The building is unbelievable, and even more so from the inside. Funniest display: Jim Morrison’s Cub Scout uniform.
“…the entire progressive movement’s essential flaw–is that they hate the white working class and want them displaced by Third World immigrants.”
You know, its sad really to see something twisted the way history has been by the RWing conservatives, but who was it who said the Winners Write the History, eh?
Think back to the 80’s at least:
Who supported unions and opposed the corporate move to shift jobs, first to the South where it was anti-labor, then to Mexico, then to Asia? The Liberals and Progressives NOT the Conservatives, who were doing all they could to break the Unions.
Who opposed the “liberal” immigration policies that lead to illegal immigrants being brought in to compete with Citizens (now just Consumers) for jobs? Not the Conservatives, no it was the Liberals & Progressives.
And yet who votes for the RW Conservatives and against their own interests instead of for the Liberal & Progressives that actually DO support the working class of the USA? The so called “white working class” thats who.
I imagine that Goebbles is laughing & laughing at the American “working class” in whatever cesspit of hell he is in, it just can’t get any better than that. People voting AGAINST their own interests and FOR those that willingly disenfranchise them…
Oh, so sad.
;(
“Did you see the ad where the woman head butted her husband into submission? Why does no one think that is strange? Imagine the out cry if an ad portrayed violence against women.” -vlad-
OK, Vlad, I can tell that ad disturbed you greatly, since you’ve mentioned it several times, now. Let me take a shot at explaining why you should not be quite so upset.
First, the ad was supposed to be funny. No, scratch that – the ad should have been funny to any man who is confident in his relationships with women. Why should it be funny, you ask?
And why would it not have been funny if the man head butted the woman?
Because, on average, due to genetic human sexual dimorphism – men are larger and more muscular than women. All other things being equal, men have been capable of being physically dominant over women for 10’s of thousands of years of human evolution. That is unlikely to change, going forward for thousands of more years.
So the ad is based on a sort of role reversal “slapstick comedy. It is unlikely that it is part of a much larger plot to debase sexual roles and feminize American males.
Now, there was probably a hidden Madison Avenue message to the ad. I may go buy some of that yogurt, tease my wife with it, and see what passions I can arouse in her tomorrow night.
I’m 6’2″. She’s 5’2”. If I can keep lethal weapons out of her hands, while I hold the yogurt dish in my hands – I think we’ll be OK.
If she had ever played soccer, maybe I’d be more careful with her and that yogurt, though.
Here’s the ad, if anyone’s curious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufbWWk_3k1E
BHMarc,
Sounds like you’re……. uh….. this song!
(Not that there’s anything wrong with that. ;o)
LOL
Well, that didn’t work!
Spin again, Vanna.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbiHf3fpkXo
And away we go……..
“Who opposed the “liberal” immigration policies that lead to illegal immigrants being brought in to compete with Citizens (now just Consumers) for jobs? Not the Conservatives, no it was the Liberals & Progressives.”
-dee-
Gotta call bullsh*t on this one, Dee.
It’s true enough that big business Chamber of Commerce types like immigrants pouring in.
But they are in an unholy alliance with your “Liberals & Progressives” to KEEP them pouring in.
And the States that have finally seen the disaster presaged by unsustainable immigration trends, and tried to do something about it at the State level – Arizona, Georgia, Alabama come to mind – these states have all been “conservative” led.
And these States have all been catching Hell from the liberal Democrats and their ACLU and SPLC and La Raza allies – and from the Obama DoJ.
Dee,
Please try to remember that RW authoritarians are invariably the VICTIMS of the very death-cult world they’ve built, so you mustn’t take that single note from them. There would no longer be any music to lighten their shriveled little hearts! (It was kind of a monotone to begin with, but hey, Johnny One-note needs his dose too, y’know. ;o)
Happy Tu Bishvat!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/07/tu-bishvat-2012-environmental-kabbalistic-seder_n_1260538.html
That’s why they Patriots are just the Pats – we don’t deserve the full name.
Here’s one for those who slavishly worship at the altar of the Golden Yardstick of the Intellect.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30467.htm
Me? Bah! A pox on ALL their vermin-infested craniums.
Hey BS, I posted a link to “White Bird” months ago? Don’t copy my shit !! Haha, only kitten! Great song,! RT
Well what the point? You don’t believe that women abuse men physically just as often men abuse women. You don’t know and you don’t want to know.
When a woman who helped start the shelter movement for women proposed a shelter for men suffering domestic abuse, she was deluged with death threats, but you don’t want to know since it doesn’t effect you. That doesn’t make you bad, just typical. It’s that attitude that sunk as with immigration. No one cared when the People along the border complained. No one cared when millions lost their jobs. It’s only when it started hitting the White Collar that anyone with a voice cared.
And women all over America cheered and laughed hysterically when a wife cut her husband’s penis off. You find it funny too no doubt. You have no idea that effect this is having on young girls. Not only the arrogance but they think it is their duty to hate men – or else they just aren’t cool.
You don’t believe the media is having an effect? I worked with an otherwise smart woman who believed that women were just as strong as men. Years of female action shows showing women beating up men created this – and she’s far from the only one.
Thanks Q – although a bit more elaboration may be in order to usurp our resident sidewalk polisher 🙂
I missed that RT, but compliments on your taste!
“Well what the point? You don’t believe that women abuse men physically just as often men abuse women. You don’t know and you don’t want to know.”
-vlad-
Just like I said to another poster a couple of weeks ago, we’re in different worlds, Vlad. I’ve got the confidence (arrogance?) that flows in my veins, and will never leave me. I was raised as a male, and a white male, and a Christian male, and a Southern White Christian male. In my mind, nothing can beat me. And I’ll be scratching my head – later on tonight – when/if other posters attack me for being born male, white, Southern, and Christian. Any attack spell envy, and nothing will change my mind about this.
I never have self esteem issues.
I never worry about getting abused by a female.
It’s just impossible to fathom for me how any male could. What’s wrong with a male who is repeatedly physically abused by his significant other? Seriously, how does this go on?
And I know you will point me to a website with heartrending tales about abused males. And I’ll try to look at it with an open mind. But the whole time I’m looking at it, I’ll be thinking to myself – – – What the Hell is wrong with these guys?
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This is not to argue that bad domestic violence doesn’t happen. About 1978, a close family friend was shot and killed by his wife – with the man’s own shotgun. She was drunk. Violence is not a new thing to me, Vlad. But persistent abuse of a male by a female is simply incomprehensible. Truly incomprehensible.
I also have Jefferson Airplane CDs as well.
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William Strunk Jr famously advises:
A sentence should contain no unnecessary words, a paragraph no unnecessary sentences, for the same reason that a drawing should have no unnecessary lines and a machine no unnecessary parts.
My big thrill on Super Bowl Sunday was reading the back and forth trash talk between Boston and New York talk on the Craigslist Rant and Raves section. In the midst of this, however, I was distracted by a “Chinese vs. American Women” post. And much to my amazement, I recognized our very own Vlad Krantz as the poster. I guess a Boston boy just can’t help himself:
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/rnr/2836608283.html
The Court has ruled against Proposition 8 – denying the will of California’s Hispanic majority. As America goes Hispanic, it will become more socially conservative – a conundrum that the Hispanic’s White Liberal Enablers cannot fathom. They’re not very smart you see.
So the Hispanics are good then? No their levels of crime, poverty, and welfare are through the roof. But they cling to their Catholic beliefs in spite of all that.
Most White American Catholics are Liberals first. Not Catholic Kennedy’s but Kennedy Catholics. Horrible people, Obama worshipers.
Me too actually but I listen and feel my brother’s pain, which is what being a citizen is all about.
I wouldn’t stick around for that kind of crap either. But what if there were children involved? Would you want to leave them alone with a crazy bitch? Single mother families are very dangerous for children. And you can’t defend yourself physically since the Court automatically locks up the man on the woman’s word.
A friend of mine warned me: he brought his date home and didn’t want to come in. So she refused to get out. He pulled her out and she just started throwing herself on the hood as he tried to drive away. Finally he called the cops and he got a good one who didn’t arrest him. His mistake was touching her at all – he should have just called immediately when she wouldn’t get out.
Perhaps you enjoyed the last hurrah of the old Southern culture of gentility and chivalry – which didn’t just write a blank check for women but expected them to live up to a high standard. In others word, to be worthy of the esteem paid them and not just be thieves and users.
Beyond that, men are very needy unfortunately. A work friend once yelled at me angrily when I told him that I had broken up with women – he never had. He didn’t have it in him although he had been broken up with many times. Men typically lose touch with all their friends and their wife becomes their “only” which is sad and unfair to her as well. But some wives encourage it and try to break up male friendships. Some men even have curfews! We should become more selfish, look out for our own needs more just like women usually do. My Mother didn’t and she regretted it later.
Sometimes less is less. You can drive without hub caps but they bring such beauty. The moral? Sometimes more is more.
Well lets look at facts:
‘Who opposed the “liberal” immigration policies that lead to illegal immigrants being brought in to compete with Citizens (now just Consumers) for jobs? Not the Conservatives, no it was the Liberals & Progressives.’
1965 Immigration act…ole warmonger LBJ!
Amnesty 2 or 3 Clinton.
Anyone else care to cite facts?
From Elaine Supkis:
BBC defends decision to censor the word “Palestine”?.
Can UK be a part of Eurabia?
asia/antisoak –
There was no mention of illegal immigration in the 1965 immigration law because the 1965 law was a law and illegal immigration is – wait for it – illegal, and thus OUTSIDE of the 1965 law.
Most of the Hell that is waiting for humans on Earth can be traced to the policies of President Ronald Reagan – and so it is with “legalization” of illegal immigrants.
Reagan did it. He did it in a big way.
Part of the reason he did it was to get new Republican/conservative voters among the growing extended families of the newly legalized.
Vlad’s right. South American immigrants (and they are NOT all Mexican, we’ll probably wish they were before too long) do tend to be fairly faithful Catholics, and they do tend to be reliably conservative on “social issues.”
If we had enough fossil fuels left for a US of 400,000,000 people – this might all work out OK for all of us.
But we don’t.
Join these groups.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/
Or find better ones – and join those.
A woman head-butting a man, whether a joke, a commentary, a meme, or a zeitgeist, is significant, when broadcast at $1.2 million for 30 seconds, to all corners of the globe, a male audience.
Heres what I read: I read the expansion of what female roles are. Advertising describes social roles, believe it or not. The housewife of the 50s was a role in which people aspired to and believed in.
Is the ‘dumb man’, the ‘patsy’, the Elmer Fudd, Homer Simpson type dominating the media for at least the past decade, just a joke? Or is it truly a description of who we are? I think it is. Its a chicken and egg thing, guys. For women, absolutely the same deal. I fully expect husbands to get head-butted literally and figuratively because of these ads.
Kids watch too, and unlike adults, they don’t even pretend to have functional bullshit filters. Bet there are 9 year olds terrified their gigantic primary school teachers will rip them in half if they so much as wiggle during another boring lecture.
The is the clusterfuck thesis: that these things, media, politics, economy, and architecture aren’t indicators of our psycho-social reality, they ARE the psycho-social reality.
“Here”s what I read: I read the expansion of what female roles are. Advertising describes social roles, believe it or not. The housewife of the 50s was a role in which people aspired to and believed in.” -bj-
Those are some good ideas, bustin.
And here is the overriding question.
Are these themes that we see in advertising and TV
-like the dufus male and the head butting female;
1. Are these things a creation of brilliant minds in the elite PTB, designed to destroy Western Civilization, by destroying the will-to-live of the males IN Western Civilization.
OR
2. Are these things a creation of brilliant minds that just want to win praise, win stock options, and-above-all-else-forever-and-ever –
SELL MORE goddam’ DANNON YOGURT!
I lean toward idea #2, myself.
This is American Style Free Market Capitalism-
Doing what it does best!
Whatever that might be?
And no matter what it destroys.
By the way, BustinJ – (or anyone else)
This advertising driving culture thing does NOT have to be subtle, by any means – not any more.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/07/3415859/republicans-hear-a-political-note.html
“Republicans smelled something rotten in the elaborate production and its lofty talk of a resilient U.S.A.”
-comment on the Clint Eastwood Chrysler ad-
Flyover country didn’t vote for a LIBERAL Republican.
Romney lost in Missouri, Romney lost in Colorado, Romney lost South Carolina and Romney lost in Minnesota.
Romney keep on losin’ Romney not gonna be the Republican candidate.
While it has disappeared from most news, the war continues and our soldiers continue to kill and be killed in a dishonorable and immoral occupation.
U. S. Marine Corps Sergeant William C. Stacey, 23, of Seattle, died January 31 in Afghanistan, of injuries sustained from an improvised explosive device. All screaming id, no brains, no honor. Semper Fi.
You merely regress the question: Why does a woman head butting a man sell yogurt? Sure there is tension between the sexes and women like to get over on men but doesn’t there need to be balance? Not men head butting women but positive images of men. It’s just not there in advertising. I admit that women do most of the shopping so it makes sense to play to them but again, why does this work? Surely it wouldn’t have a hundred years ago. They have brought women along step by step until we have come to this pass. Show me a commercial where White Men aren’t made too look like fools in relation to women and Black men. Coincidence? Just to sell things? (Why does it work?) I don’t think so.
Bustin is right: it’s monkey see monkee do out there. I remember a movie in the 90’s that showed young guys lying down in the middle of highways right on the line as a dare. Kids saw, kids did, kids died.
Yes but if ya bring in alot of people legally
[1965 law and anchor babes] you invite illegals as we no longer have a country but a collection of dis united peoples w/i our borders.
Another term fer this is DIVERSITY
Or Muli lingual ism
or Multi cultural society
the rainbow coalition etc.
You know, Asoka, it’s one thing to generally condemn a war; it’s quite another to specifically single out an individual military man.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps your last sentence was a condemnation of the Afghan war in general. But your mention of U. S. Marine Corps Sergeant William C. Stacey occupies a compositional proximity with the last sentence that reads as very deliberately placed . At any rate, your post could easily interpreted as extremely insensitive, if not completely without class. It sure made me cringe.
Would you cringe if I named the people murdered by a USA soldier? They have families and loved ones, too. And they did not travel thousands of miles to come here and occupy the USA. If they did, I would condemn them by name.
Or do you not think that military personnel bear any responsibility for their actions? You think they are just “obeying orders” or “doing their duty”? Didn’t Nuremberg take away that excuse?
It’s just an “abstract war” for you, and you cringe when it becomes concrete and personal. I don’t suppose you cringe when Obama names individual soldiers to give them commendations, even if it is posthumously.
The entire idea of “OUT INNOVATING” or “OUT EDUCATING” the “competition” (who ? Germany ? JAPAN ? South Korea ?) so as to create “new sectors” and new “jobs” is based on two false premises: one that Novelties, High Tech Companies and New Services can create all of these new fangled jobs and two that even when and if they create them, they can create them by the hundreds of thousands.
First, since there are only a handful of really game changing new technologies available, and it is simply not realistically possible to create and invent completely new sector creating and industry creating technologies every ten years (like Automobiles were, or Jet Airlines were or Computers and Software and Internet were, etc.) we have to exploit the technologies that we have, until something else “really new” comes along to create “really new industries”, and exploiting the technologies we already have means optimizing, perfecting them and using less labor to activate and use them in the end, as we become more expert and precise in “cutting waste and excess manipulations (hence jobs) to use and apply technologies” (think mergers and acquisitions and economies of scale, etc.). So in the meanwhile jobs are being cut and fewer new ones are being created in place of them, and the relationship is essentially for every ten jobs cut by technology you may gain maybe three new jobs in “other sectors” (notice Odumbo and others never specifically state what sectors, what concrete activities, what jobs etc. they like to remain vague and abstract like innovation and education never specifically saying what is needed, since they don’t know and nobody knows and it is just an excuse to make believe that “somehow and in some way the jobs will be there”, etc.).
And even when jobs are created by Innovation and Education only a few are created since the very idea of Information Workers is to use the huge economies of scale that top notch Information Workers and Innovators and High Tech Specialist can produce: point in case to design the IPHONE you maybe need at most 1,000 top notch Information Workers but to produce them in China you use hundreds of thousands “Low level and low paying” (250 dollars a month pay against maybe at least 3,000 dollars a month to the Information workers ?) workers in all the component and such factories.
So that is the deal, you can only give out Free Salaries to all and cheap rents. Amen.
Also, other examples of game changing technologies were Skyscrapers since in the last 120 years they became another standardized technology used all over the world, creating ever greater numbers of them with ever more floors, etc. Another technology that gets perfected and applied and optimized continually. Also Genetic Engineering creating new drugs and such, another game changing technology but here progress is slower because it deals with quirky biological material which is hard to predict and control…
The entire idea of “OUT INNOVATING” or “OUT EDUCATING” the “competition” (who ? Germany ? JAPAN ? South Korea ?) so as to create “new sectors” and new “jobs” is based on two false premises: one that Novelties, High Tech Companies and New Services can create all of these new fangled jobs and two that even when and if they create them, they can create them by the hundreds of thousands.
First, since there are only a handful of really game changing new technologies available, and it is simply not realistically possible to create and invent completely new sector creating and industry creating technologies every ten years (like Automobiles were, or Jet Airlines were or Computers and Software and Internet were, etc.) we have to exploit the technologies that we have, until something else “really new” comes along to create “really new industries”, and exploiting the technologies we already have means optimizing, perfecting them and using less labor to activate and use them in the end, as we become more expert and precise in “cutting waste and excess manipulations (hence jobs) to use and apply technologies” (think mergers and acquisitions and economies of scale, etc.). So in the meanwhile jobs are being cut and fewer new ones are being created in place of them, and the relationship is essentially for every ten jobs cut by technology you may gain maybe three new jobs in “other sectors” (notice Odumbo and others never specifically state what sectors, what concrete activities, what jobs etc. they like to remain vague and abstract like innovation and education never specifically saying what is needed, since they don’t know and nobody knows and it is just an excuse to make believe that “somehow and in some way the jobs will be there”, etc.).
And even when jobs are created by Innovation and Education only a few are created since the very idea of Information Workers is to use the huge economies of scale that top notch Information Workers and Innovators and High Tech Specialist can produce: point in case to design the IPHONE you maybe need at most 1,000 top notch Information Workers but to produce them in China you use hundreds of thousands “Low level and low paying” (250 dollars a month pay against maybe at least 3,000 dollars a month to the Information workers ?) workers in all the component and such factories.
So that is the deal, you can only give out Free Salaries to all and cheap rents. Amen.
Also, other examples of game changing technologies were Skyscrapers since in the last 120 years they became another standardized technology used all over the world, creating ever greater numbers of them with ever more floors, etc. Another technology that gets perfected and applied and optimized continually. Also Genetic Engineering creating new drugs and such, another game changing technology but here progress is slower because it deals with quirky biological material which is hard to predict and control…
One thing that cut so close to my heart was reading that young men dying in war cried out for their mothers. And water.
The thought of my son being sent to kill or be killed for the profit of the rich alternately brings me to tears or enrages me to potential violence.
I believe that that is why they stopped the draft.
The ruling overlords don’t want to try to take my son for their nefarious designs.
Because you don’t mess with a pissed off mother.
That’s why they go for the stupid ones. The ones bred for the military, with their little camouflage pajamas and play machine guns. The ones whose mothers proclaim their pride that their beloved sons died for the good of the country (read: military-industrial complex).
Dumb as rocks.
U.S. soldiers in wars have a duty to themselves and their families to protect themselves. If, in self-defense, innocent people are killed, it’s the fault of the U.S. leaders who put the U.S. soldiers in such a situation. U.S. soldiers in such circumstances have nothing to feel guilty about.
I watched the head-butting commercial and cringed.
It looked like potential head injury to me. But people will fight over food.
As for cat litter, it is mined in an environmentally wrong way.
http://www.petproductnews.com/web-exclusives/litter-and-the-environment.aspx
And to all the assholes who pontificate about the Green Party, distorting our principles, lying about our goals: your lack of research and your casual disregard for the truth shows the depth to which the dominant paridigm of our make-believe society allows its citizens to sink.
Just because the ruling overlords lie with impunity doesn’t mean that you can do it convincingly.
You’re just acting the fool.
US soldiers sent to invade and occupy other countries are self-righteously indignant when the people they are occupying and killing fight back.
It’s not “self-defense” when you invade someone else’s home and they shoot at you, and you kill them.
And, guess what? US soldiers with morals do feel guilty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akm3nYN8aG8
Mass hysteria has broken out in Le Roy New York – teenage girls with too much time on their hands just like the witch girls of Puritan Salem. Too bad the girls wont be able to get people put to death. The parents are screaming at everyone and a witch named Erin Brockovitch is inciting them.
There is a mysterious illness named Morgellon’s Syndrome where very painful “hairs” grow out of the body. The hairs don’t seem to be completely organic in nature and are unlike anything ever seen. The only references to it are in the old Witchcraft trials in Europe. Perhaps due to environmental pollution? But why did it occur in old Europe?
From:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=178111
“OP no two things can be in the same place at the same time,”
Not exactly: Nothing at all (no ONE thing) can be in the same place and at the same time because time is always flowing and the thing is always changing position.
“THERE ARE NOT TWO OBJECTS INVOLVED.”
There is not even ONE object involved since you cannot pinpoint it down in time and space to infinite precision.
But, the very fact that we can use these approximate principles means that we somehow “format” reality, we “translate it” we “decode it” into something else, we “Digitize it” into some kinds of ONEs and ZEROS and act upon it. How can we, when if we are made up of matter and matter itself doesn’t even contain ONE entity that can possible exist and is the same to itself ?
We are some gadget looking at the world from Outside of it, we are in some abstract world, we are outside of the universe looking in and formatting it according to our Man Brain. And it works for us and it is ok, and all is well, we don’t need precision.
But the real properties of the world and universe, by denying the very possibility of the Identity Principle deny the possibility of any possible logic and non contradiction, hence the Universe is totally contradictory and totally incomprehensible, is totally disjoint from us, a total absolute unknown, has nothing at all to do with us, zero relationship with us, we are aliens here…
Of course, we will keep on using logic and mathematics and physics and such because it works and it is “good enough” for our uses, etc. But something is deeply wrong with our Man Brain, hence design a new one, create a new Man brain that operates on pure contradiction and kills all logic and Identity Principles and Non Contradiction…(granted, not an easy task… maybe an impossible task ?).
Anyone having trouble with the Post Office? I sent an important package to be signed for and with insurance. The mailman at the other end just stuffed it into an unlocked box in an apartment house. Also they don’t seem to do return to sender anymore. Got some personal letters for the previous owner and I gave them to the Post Office – they just sent them back to me.
As Heraclitus said, “You cannot enter the same river twice”. But yes and no: the river is always changing in that it’s different molecules of water going by but the rate of change is more or less constant – and the molecules are identical. So the more it changes, the more it stays the same.
Things are always changing, but they do so in accordance with the Laws of Nature – which don’t change.
Better to mistake a rope for a snake at sunset than mistake a snake for a rope.
A cat will never jump on a hot stove twice. True -but he will never jump on the stove again at all -it’s just “bad” from then on. But can the cat conceptualize “stove” and stay off all of them from then on? Can we?
For another view on the Madonna half-time show-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN21Qkl1bxM
It doesn’t look to me like Madonna is shriveled, tottering or half-dressed. Was there another half-time show that I missed?
Pucker, you cannot blame it on “the leaders.” Each member of the military has an obligation under the UCMJ and the Law of Land Warfare to refuse unconstitutional orders to deploy.
The refusal to obey unlawful orders is the soul of American patriotism, as patriotism is defined as fealty to one’s country, not one’s “leaders.”
Only Congress is constitutionally-empowered (Article I, Section 8) to declare war no war was declared against Iraq or Afghanistan. Any order to deploy to Afghanistan is therefore unconstitutional and can be refused.
Lieutenant Ehren Watada refused to deploy to Iraq. In June 2006, Lieutenant Ehren Watada became the first U.S. Army officer to publicly refuse orders to Iraq. After almost three years of intense political and legal struggle, he won his discharge from the Army on October 2, 2009. He never did a single day in jail.
Pucker, you cannot get away with blaming “the leaders” … Each individual soldier has a moral duty to not participate in war crimes.
CORRECTION
Each individual soldier has a LEGAL AND MORAL duty to not participate in war crimes.
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Yes, a soldier only has a duty to obey “lawful” orders. But if he/she is defending himself/herself, and the enemy is using a civilian as a shield, then it is the enemy that is perpetrating the “war crime”, and not the U.S. soldier.
If a police officer confronts a bank robber who is using an 80 year old grandmother as a human shield and blows away the grandmother by mistake (or not by mistake, who knows?) it is the bankrobber (if he survives) (and the bankrobber’s accomplices) who will be charged with murder. The U.S. soldier is in a similar situation as the police officer.
Pucker, hundreds of veterans have testified in “Winter Soldier” hearings about the war crimes they committed. They did not involve civilians beings used as human shields.
Among those testifying at the hearing was Cpl. Jason Washburn, a former Marine who served three tours in Iraq. Washburn served in some of the most dangerous parts of the country, including Najaf and Iraq’s Western Anbar Province. A squad in his unit was responsible for the massacre of 26 civilians in Haditha in November 2005.
Washburn told the gathering his commanders encouraged lawless behavior.
“We were encouraged to bring ‘drop weapons’ or shovels, in case we accidentally shot a civilian, we could drop the weapon on the body and pretend they were an insurgent,” he said.
“By the third tour, if they were carrying a shovel or bag, we could shoot them. So we carried these tools and weapons in our vehicles, so we could toss them on civilians when we shot them. This was commonly encouraged.”
Another former Marine, John Michael Turner, tore off the medals he earned during two tours in Iraq and threw them on the ground.
“Apr. 18, 2006 was the date of my first confirmed kill,” he told the crowd other veterans. “He was innocent, I called him the fat man. He was walking back to his house and I killed him in front of his father and friend. My first shot made him scream and look into my eyes, so I looked at my friend and said, ‘Well, I can’t let that happen,’ and shot him again. After my first kill I was congratulated.”
The AG said:
The Green Party’s essential flaw–in fact, the entire progressive movement’s essential flaw–is that they hate the white working class and want them displaced by Third World immigrants.
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Working people can’t be romanticized. They’re the guys with 90 and 100 IQs who do all the dirty work that is absolutely necessary in every culture on earth. They’re not great conversationalists. They’re the beer and Cheez Doodle people Jim is so fond of pillorying. They’re tough to love but if you grow up around them you develop a respect for their resiliency and how they do the crummy, filthy, and dangerous jobs which hold up every country.
I think you’re absolutely right about progressives. Despite their lofty rhetoric, progressives actually tend to come from HIGHER income families and their social lives are like the debutante’s ball … well-scrubbed, lily white, cork sniffers. You won’t find many progressives at, for example, a working man’s tavern. You’ll find a few anarchists and iconoclasts but progressives at a working man’s bar are as rare as blue-collar cork sniffers at a wine-tasting event.
Moreover, many progressives are GUILTY and CONFLICTED because during the boom, they weren’t averse to doing all of the greedy little things that members of the RENTIER CLASS do … like hiking rents 10% more than inflation, flipping houses without making improvements, or gouging buyers because of the alleged “market price” which everyone, even progressives, knew was bogus. I live in a “progressive” town. I’ve seen it with my own two peepers.
The illusion going on here is that there ARE progressives and by that I mean people who fraternize and befriend all of the classes they’re allegedly trying to “save”. Indeed, they do not “love” the working class because it’s generally very alien, distasteful, and frightening to them.
E.
Not a single reply to or acknowledgement of deni’s great comment. You’re wasting your time here, deni. JHK is the worst kind of unthinking conservative (compare with Guy McPherson, who really has put his money where his mouth is) and his blog accordingly attracts unthinking conservatives of every stripe, such as Vlad Krantz, the only person I have yet met who boasts of having read Robert Anton Wilson, while eagerly demonstrating that he hasn’t understood him at all. And all the other shrill dickheads busy talking past each other here. My advice? Find another blog. This one is chock full of nutters.
And the other conservative cunt I forgot to mention, who has the temerity to describe himself as the anti-gnostic, meaning that he is opposed to the tiny minority of people who realize that this life isn’t worth living. Opposed. Hey, anti-gnostic, too bad you missed out on your life calling, which is to be a concentration-camp guard. They’re not hiring. Yet.
Hey guys,
I’m a progressive and I’m dead set against illegal immigration and H1B visas to import low income engineers above our own graduates.
I think by now you know I’m against globalism and outsourcing our jobs. I’m against undermining the American work force. I’m pro union as I don’t ever want to see the kind of working conditions here that we see in China for slave wages.
So please don’t stereotype all progressives.
What makes me a progressive is that I’m a Keynesian who believes in people paying taxes according to their ability to pay them and of course the rich 1% should be paying way more than they do.
I also believe in a demand side economy and an economy that serves the workers to build up a large tax base and economic determinism for a strong military used way differently than our military is being used now. War and armaments shouldn’t be our biggest export.
We shouldn’t be fostering the shock and awe of disaster capitalism to level other countries for the good of transnational corporations.
Well, I won’t go on and on. I think most of you know what I think.
ps I do love sipping wine.
martin, i can only speak for myself, but i generally only repply to a direct question, or to ask a clarifying question of my own; or to engage if/when i disagree with part or all of a statement: sorry, but i don t feel the need to turn this forum into a strokefest…that is to say that i agreed with deni and really had nothing to add; i don t think it helpful or true t tell him/her/it to find elsewhere- any valid poster has a place here in the discussion…yes, even you, vlad, although i find your attitudes and diatribes personally distasteful(to be polite about it) how about you, mr hayes, do you have anything positive to add to our discourse?
CFNers,
Please check the oil drum and Energy bulletin for some very insightful posts on the natural gas bubble. I came across JHK’s KunstlerCast #192: Arthur E. Berman, Petroleum Geologist in a round-about way, but if you’re posting on this site you should listen..
Reference:
http://instantsingularity1.blogspot.com/
Ok, it no longer belongs in the Rant House…
Reference:
http://instantsingularity3.blogspot.com/
Ok, it no longer belongs in the Rant House…
well said, ell, and might i suggest ferrari carrano: worth the $80 if you can find a reason to celebrate…franzia, it aint! as for ‘our’ military, i ve long felt we would be MUCH better off if they were deployed to actually defend peoples around the globe who are being oppressed (often by puppets ‘we’ put in power), and as disaster relief; ‘twould go a long way towards making our country look as good in the eyes of the world as we ve always been told…!
Reference:
http://www.scienceforums.net/forum/102-general-philosophy/
Ok, it no longer belongs in the Rant House…
Reference:
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/63868-information-relationship/
Ok, it no longer belongs in the Rant House…
Reference:
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/63951-identity-principle/
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/63952-a-few-technologies/
Ok, it no longer belongs in the Rant House…
“The illusion going on here is that there ARE progressives and by that I mean people who fraternize and befriend all of the classes they’re allegedly trying to “save”. Indeed, they do not “love” the working class because it’s generally very alien, distasteful, and frightening to them.”
Gee, like Progressives & Liberals are all clones or robots or something? Hey, guess what, we all differ, just like everyone else. Sure, there may be some Progs like you discribe above, but not all Progs are like that, just like not all Conservatives are RW Facist Nazis like Vlad.
Most Progs I knew were just plain old working class people but with, guess what, Progressive & Liberal Ideals.
But as I said before, we lost to the RW Conservatives, so, hey, you win, you can re-write history to lay all the blame for your fuckups on us, its ok, we are dead now anyway.
;(
No, I don’t think I have anything positive to add to the discussion, but thank you for asking.
unthinking conservatives of every stripe, such as Vlad Krantz, the only person I have yet met who boasts of having read Robert Anton Wilson, while eagerly demonstrating that he hasn’t understood him at all
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That’s because he hasn’t read him. And I doubt very much that Vlad has read a single book in his entire life. Pretty much everything Vlad spouts is parroted second-hand propaganda from nazi blog sites. I caught him on this more times than I care to count. The guy is really a 7th grade illiterate and a malicious nazi. Everything he pretends know is gleaned nazi propaganda. That’s where all his “knowledge” starts and ends.
That’s really funny, Metuselah. Is it true? I’m willing to give Vlad the benefit of the doubt. He doesn’t sound like a Nazi idiot. Some of the time.
On the other hand, your conspiratorial junk about the Vatican is pretty much on Vlad’s level of self-serving lunacy.
Test him and you’ll see for yourself.
It’s historical truth. The fact that supreme effort is and has been made into concealing this truth, doesn’t make it any less truthful but more so.
And to think I own a Silverado. Damn thing sucks gas like a Siv. But I got a good deal on it, and you can’t beat the XM radio. $42,000 truck for $28,000 cash, brand new …
A few observations on Amtrak trip south New England to Central Florida. Main observation: 500 miles of crumbling abandoned factories from New Haven to DC, some so large they must have employed tens of thousands of workers at one time, including derelict shipyards in Philly and Wilmington, DE. Seen from the window of an East Coast Southbound train it looks as if collapse has already occured. And it begins with the empty and graffiti covered Marlin and Winchester plants in New Haven. Jim says rebuilding the railroads should be job number uno and Amtrak is a good place to start. The trains run, and mostly run on time. The weather is great in central Florida, 80d every day, but the towns and streets are full of panhandlers and beggars from all over the US. Its wise keep a pocketful of change handy when you go walking about.
Interesting incident at Penn Station in NYC. Its not too big, about the size of two HS gymnasiums, but is heavily patrolled by at laeast a dozen NYPD officers, Amtrak police, and armed soldiers from an airborne division. At one point a comotion broke out, a guy yelling and screaming, and it was the soldiers who responded, not the police.
Florida from Orlando south is almost all Hispanic, including police officers, business owners and ermployees and staff everywhere. Those young Latinas are the prettiest girls I’ve ever seen.
–WSP7
“Most Progs I knew were just plain old working class people but with, guess what, Progressive & Liberal Ideals.” -DJ
Yep, that would pretty much describe me, and your comments on the vast variety of all political striping, I’ve found to be true, even in the taverns. This is not to say that, personally, I find all political opinions to have equal weight, value and legitimacy! So mebbe I’m not so “liberal”, by that measurement? Well, tough shit fer me, then; perhaps I have more markings of anarchism than I’d like to admit and that M. thinks he sees incorporated in me. (Kinda proving your point.)
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LB,
I tend to take my wine in gulps, and usually from a box, or poured from a recycled beer bottle. (This is why we enjoy company so much; they tend to bring wine that comes in an actual wine-bottle and is of a higher quality. After that’s gone, the box doesn’t seem QUITE as old-soxy… because it’s THERE. ;o)
A few more things.
It seems not to many white, middle class folk are riding the trains anymore. They must be driving or flying if they are travelling at all. Most, almost all, my fellow travellers were black and Hispanic. Just an observation.
Just the same, for me, the Country is getting hard to recognize. The crumbling old factories, graffiti everywhere, grimy trash strewn streets in DC and Baltimore (for example) the US is definitely taking on a third world hue. It seems irreversible.
–WSP7
I waited for someone to attack your comment on evolutionary outcomes. no one did because it is irrefutable.
WSP,
Thanks for the first-hand report.
Your observations from the industrial “back-yards” (where the tracks run), run parallel to my on-going/on-rushing concept of The Great Crumbling. I think the “opportunities” that will arise from it will be alien to our present notions of what productive work looks like.
(I DO think that newspapers/broadsheets/ANY print media would be nice to have, although they’re a luxury in terms of distribution energy and pulpwood products. What will the texture of the future be? How far beyond food, water and shelter will the “pursuit of happiness” go?)
The study cited below leaves unanswered the question as to why ads generally seem to show disrespect to white males – but it hints at it. And it showcases “MUCH bigger” problems, in the author’s opinion – that being lack of minority representation on Madison Avenue.
My own feeling is that white males became a “safe target” for “humor” in advertising sometime in the late ’60’s or early ’70’s. Some of this had to do with the “perceived” cultural dominance of white males at that time – and the lack of safe targets for advertising humor OTHER than white males.
This continues to this day, even as society seems to slowly degrade the perception of power among “white males.”
From the study:
“The content analysis of the Super Bowl commercials was observed for recurring themes, the race and gender of the actors/actresses and the roles they played. The ads are often popular and entertaining for the general audience. Viewers may laugh at some images that are stereotypical and not understand that they may be offensive to some people in the group being stereotyped.”
“…offensive to some people IN THE GROUP being stereotyped….” ????
HEY, Dr. Lapchick at UCF – White males are constantly being stereotyped in commercials. Vlad (and many others) say that “white males” are tired of being stereotyped, too. What you gonna’ do about that, Dr. Lapchick??
http://tidesport.org/MadAve/MadisonAvenue2011_FINAL.pdf
Probably you will ignore it-that’s my best guess.
Political Correctness and all that, you know.
LEFT vs RIGHT
– http://goo.gl/pIUKy
The real divide
Okay, but let’s not forget that “selling shit to the rubes” (the advert bid’ness) is basically a sociopathic endeavor, as with any con-job. Find and stimulate the reptilian centers and devil take the hindmost; it’s how they get PAID. (“Just business”, you know.)
Hey WSP –
Glad you made it back home OK.
Your report from the rails is sadly accurate, and your conclusions are on the mark as well.
Asoka. keeps yammering on about the joys of poverty and third world living. More and more people in the US are going to get a chance to find out if he’s right or not – up close and personal.
And my sense is that America will bring its own style to third world living. We’ll keep the social isolation, intrusive government, big military, and the Cheeze Doodle lifestyle that we presently love in the US – and add to it a slow, grinding, and generally inescapable descent into poverty, for anyone (red, yellow, black, or white) who is not in the “elite,” in service to the “elite,” or in government work.
depressing. and now, unavoidable for most.
I know – let’s let in more immigrant “net contributors?” to share in the decline. Great plan? Not.
…and getting PAID is the modern measure of worth; social responsibility be damned. But you already knew that.
One more thing about TV and social change, and then I’m out ’till tomorrow. (Hi Q!)
TV in the ’50’s and some of the ’60’s reflected a very white male dominated society. And maybe they were joking about the male on female violence – but it was a long running joke that came from somewhere.
“one of these days, Alice.” shakes fist!
“One of these days. I’m gonna’ knock you to the moon.” -The Honeymooners-
And how many times did Ricky Ricardo put Lucy over his knee for a spanking? And I don’t think they were just being kinky for the camera, either.
No, the American soldier is in a similar situation as the bank robber.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akm3nYN8aG8
Some people get it.
“They’re tough to love…”
And that is because they have a low IQ? Wow. The world is definitely a better place as a result of your brilliance. Thanks for that.
Jesus H. Christ, E.
You take an ignorant comment from some doofus on a blog, and extrapolate from it for your own prejudices.
You profess admiration for intellect, but you are going along with Karl Rove, who said “we create our own reality” and Roger Ailes who said “the “truth” is whatever people will believe.
Anti-gnostic, whoever that is, said something stupid, ignorant and wrong. You shouldn’t then take his statement and riff on it.
Don’t you have any respect for accuracy? For honesty?
Here you go. I’ll pull some assertions out of my hat, and you go ahead and comment on them, as if they were truth. Because that’s what you apparently do.
Republicans advocate fertilizing their gardens with dead Mexicans.
Democrats believe that Martians will come to Earth and save us from our folly.
Go for it, E. What have you to say about these policies, that I can tell you are absolutely true. Because I just typed them in.
“TV in the ’50’s and some of the ’60’s reflected a very white male dominated society.
And how many times did Ricky Ricardo put Lucy over his knee for a spanking?”
Ahhhh, you know Ricky? He was Hispanic. Not so much “very white male”.
Those young Latinas are the prettiest girls I’ve ever seen.
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It’s true Wide, those young Latinas are very pretty… but unfortunately their looks seem to have a short shelf life especially if they have kids, which many do.
They quickly take on a very blocky shape, something like a UPS Drop Box… and the children of these girls are often shaped like fireplugs with jet-black bowl cut hair.
I am thinking mainly of the Mexicans who pass my house on foot headed to a nearby park. Are Mexicans considered to be Latinas?
No, no one attacked his assertions because they were laughably ridiculous, and so were politely ignored, as if someone farted in church.
You really think that everyone on this blog believes his stupid racist ideas?
Grow up, Bossier.
By the way, I commented yesterday that the US engines that the world will hear will be the drone of drones. And Tom Engelhardt fleshes out that assertion.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/offshore_everywhere_the_plan_to_end_national_sovereignty_as_we_know_it_2012/
But Obama’s economic reporting agencies assured me that the economy was growing, jobs are back and the stock market is rising to highs last seen in 2006 during the economic boom… what could possibly go wrong..? Wait, there’s a knock at my door. I think they said “…something, something…homeland security”.
They don’t care about reality, lbendet.
They prefer to set up strawmen and gleefully knock them down, then congratulate themselves on their superiority.
It is very aggravating.
I did not say everyone believed it on this blog. I’m just saying it was hard to argue with it.
Anti-gnostic, whoever that is, said something stupid, ignorant and wrong. You shouldn’t then take his statement and riff on it.
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Above^ is Wage telling Eleut he shouldn’t “riff” on somebody else’s stupid, ignorant and wrong statement. So what does Wage do? She riffs on what she considers stupid, ignorant and wrong statements by Eleut. A perfect example of “do as I say, not do as I do.”
Just as I thought none of the liberal lecturers here gave a damn about the Clint Eastwood commercial.
We got white liberals fleeing to Whitopias where they can practice their white guilt in peace. We got White wing conservatives rushing along with Rick Adleson/Santorum to Armageddon to practice their christianity.
Then we got Clint Eastwood telling the remnant white men to come back to all the American Detroits or proto-Detroits, “because we can win this thing.” Uh huh.
I love Hollywood and Madison Ave.
For instance, one of the favorite memes of the self-proclaimed conservatives is that “real” Americans, by whom they mean blue-collar workers, are all conservative.
And yet, I’ve written about the blue collar workers that I know, here in rural fly-over country, and their politics.
All 3 of the carpenters who have worked on my house are not just liberal, but radical. The man who came to fix my washing machine recognized my voice from when I called into the Thom Hartman show. Because he listened to it. The man who was digging the ditch outside my house was a liberal. The electrician who changed my fusebox was a liberal. The guy last week who came to check for a gas leak was a liberal.
And ain’t they real Americans? Why, no, according to the conservatives on this blog, who insist, without any evidence, that they are either not real Americans, or are secretly conservative.
What a bunch of losers.
The militarization of American society is so thorough that even liberals like Rachel Maddow advocate for a parade for our “war heroes” ignoring the crimes the veterans have committed.
But the veterans themselves know they are not heroes, the veterans know what they have done, and many are so troubled they seek mental health counseling. Many just commit suicide.
The Veterans Crisis Line, launched in 2007, has fielded more than 400,000 calls and has saved more than 14,000 lives, according to the Veterans Affairs mental health website.
There is a suicide epidemic raging among those who are currently serving too. From 2005 to 2010, approximately one service member committed suicide every 36 hours, a CNAS study revealed.
Military members and veterans know the occupation is immoral. They know they have committed war crimes and they are taking their own lives out of shame.
What I can’t stomach is the white wine socialist condescension towards people they see as lessers ie the folk that “do the crummy, filthy, and dangerous jobs which hold up every country” as you say.
The “well scrubbed and lily white” think of themselves as awfully damned smart. They’ve read Dostoyevsky and Pushkin. They sport degrees majoring in who knows what from expensive schools. They know how to make an entrance and carry themselves handsomely. They’re articulate. They can bullshit the birds out of trees. And to be fair who knows some of them may have actually studied something useful.
But mostly they make me laugh. They have NO IDEA what they DON’T know. It’s true that the guys I grew up around can’t read three consecutive pages without getting a headache. But how many of the lily whites have you seen backing a tractor trailer laden with thousands of pounds of cargo into an impossibly narrow loading dock? How many have you seen suspended on scaffolding and harnesses hundreds of feet off the ground on the sides of office buildings or in the cab of a tower crane?
None you say? Neither have I. Book lernin is fine but book lernin goes only so far. “Progressives” see themselves as a force for “good”, that is “good” as they see it.
But I’m with you, the ones I’ve rubbed shoulders with are contemptuous of people they see as “uneducated” not realizing that they depend on the skills and labor of these “uneducated” for the food they eat, for their safety and well being. Progressives think their lessers need them but IMO progressives are one with wealthy conservatives in terms of class interests. What the working class needs isn’t for progressives to tell them how to live their lives. They need progressives to stop undermining them.
SOURCE:
Losing the Battle: The Challenge of Military Suicide
(CNAS, 2011)
http://www.cnas.org/files/documents/publications/CNAS_LosingTheBattle_HarrellBerglass.pdf
Where did you go to school? Harvard? It’s the only explanation. Don’t answer. It doesn’t matter. Wherever you went and whatever it cost it was a complete waste of time and money.
They don’t care about reality, lbendet. – WL
Neither apparently do you WL.
People can’t stand the crudity of the working class – fine, I get it. But then they pretend that they don’t know anything or have legitimate complaints – and that is appalling. And then they want to replace them with other people from other countries – and that is Evil.
It’s true that the working class is often confused and easily misled. Obviously. But they know they’re being exploited and destroyed. And no one can refute them. You don’t want to listen to them? Then stop exploiting to them and they’ll go back to sleep. They really do in live in their own world and are willing to leave governing to others – as long as their rights are being protected.
As Murray and Hernstein said in “The Bell Curve”, the problem has gotten worse because high IQ is now concentrated in the cities whereas previously, it was diffused through out the populace. But again, being unable to ariticulate their problems doesn’t make them wrong. To constantly presume moral superiority simply shows the Elite Establishment as the bigots they are.
Losing the Battle: The Challenge of Military Suicide
(CNAS, 2011)
http://www.cnas.org/files/documents/publications/CNAS_LosingTheBattle_HarrellBerglass.pdf
The report was published in Oct. 2011.
If you care about the veterans, you might want to check it out.
Then, at least the veterans who have committed suicide will not have done so in vain.
Military members and veterans know the occupation is immoral. They know they have committed war crimes and they are taking their own lives out of shame.
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This is not just limited to the military. The whole country is guilty of war crimes, and the whole country knows it. That is why the US is suffering from mass depression. Make no mistake about it. That which JHK chronicles and all that we’re witnessing, are classic symptoms of depression.
Boast of reading him? Isn’t that a little strong? I have read him, appreciate him, and disagree with his materialistic premises of a mysticism without Spirit.
His stuff on synchronicity is fun and interesting. His attack on Feminism completely appropriate and shows the strength of his free thinking. His refusal to take on the Blacks shows the limits of it. He knew about the incredibly low Black IQ as did Leary. He admitted that the attacks on the Bell Curve were hysterical and no one had refuted their data or their analysis of it.
Just as no one can refute that 40% of American Billionaires are Jewish and that they have influence far beyond even that would suggest. And at only 3% of the population? Incredible, no? They are an incredible people and they must assume much of the responsibility for America being in the state it is. And I’ll give the OWS credit for being some of the very few who are willing to talk about that. Of course there are millions of Americans who know on the Right, but we’re disenfranchised and don’t get a voice in the MSM.
Keep talking, you are amazing. Do you quiz everyone or do you have a special Liberal Yellow Pages?
Were they White? Did you time their signature?
When are you going to take on the Israelis? Where’s your backbone?
“Then, at least the veterans who have committed suicide will not have done so in vain.”
Blow me
I’m full up to here with high IQs. I’ve had a lifetime of their bullshit and I’m choking on it. Look at the mess we’re in. Who’s doing is it? The pundits, the thinkers, the perfumed, the glitterati, the preeners, the people with tall foreheads….
How can the terribly smart redeem themselves? Hmmm… let me think. OK, when I see a high IQ learn how to operate a backhoe with finesse or when one of them can work on a drilling rig without getting themselves or someone else killed, then I’ll be impressed. Until then, in my books, they don’t have any basis for calling themselves “superior” morally or otherwise.
Atta boy xhalor.
Check out the “Unfair Campaign” in Duluth, Minnesota. Pictures of Whites with writing all over their faces to the effect that they are guilty for living while White. And people think that this is going to help race relations! It is dehumanizing and will just empower minorities to attack us even more.
Certain aspects of the Left have a strong Maoist aspect in terms of confession of guilt and public shaming. The whole “White Studies” and “White Privledge” movements show this.
http://unfaircampaign.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Un-Fair_Poster_8x11-1.pdf
Maybe the suicides are related to the amount of time and number of deployments. These wars have been on going for ten years and with an all volunteer force the same guys have been deployed over and over. After all our combat operations in ww2 was 47 months. And due to the intense combat many who would have been disturbed did not make it back. Of course due to the lack of understanding of battle fatigue, many were just called crazy and ignored in those days. I do believe that when you are in that situation you are simply do what it takes to survive. I know I would.
Blind Militarism = Disrespect for Veterans.
Shame on you, Rhino and Xhalor.
(but please don’t commit suicide)
Nice reactionary attitude. The army uses IQ tests but cleverly doesn’t call them that so as not rouse the ire of the rabble rousers like you. They know that IQ is important even in many blue collar type jobs.
If I may offer a suggestion? Intelligent isn’t the same as intellectual and vice versa. I mean look at John Kerry – a dummy who poses as an intellectual snob. Likwise, some of the blue collar guys are quite bright but don’t read books. Strange? To me but this type often makes lots of Cash, so the last laugh may be on me.
Guys who install cable have to know alot and be able to make complex decisons. I don’t think a subnormal could handle it. Carpenters and Plumbers? Same. And the brighter someone is the more it will help – all other things being equal that is – skill with the hands has to be there and that isn’t measured on the IQ tests so I grant you that point. As I always have Cash.
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I don’t quiz people, I talk to them. I talk to everyone, unlike you and Rhino, who apparently only talk to the boys down at the Klan meetings, so as not to let reality interfere with your hate-filled imaginations.
I’m a political person, so it doesn’t take long for the conversations to turn political. Even if I’m just shooting the breeze with a repairman.
You make good points.
Many who signed up never read the “stop loss” fine print.
But we have lost the war in Afghanistan (as has every other occupier), yet we don’t get the soldiers out.
We just keep doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results. That has to grind down our troops.
Bring them home now. They at least have a GI bill and can study without graduating $80,000 in debt.
you can’t be shocked by the fair campaign Vlad. Just another day in multi-culti paradise.
Wage said:
Anti-gnostic, whoever that is, said something stupid, ignorant and wrong. You shouldn’t then take his statement and riff on it.
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And then you continue to blither and don’t indicate one REASON why Anti-Gnostic is wrong. Gawd, the people on this site will tell you black is white and hot is cold and it’s so because they say it.
Progressives do VOTE for stuff that helps working people but that’s not what AG’s post or mine talked about. So it’s a matter of experience and after living in one of America’s most Democrat and progressive towns (Palo Alto), I have not ONE doubt that these people really do NOT like working-class people.
It’s the essence of the modern American Progressive … they’ll stump for the underdog but they really don’t want to have much to do with them. Get a hold of yourself, Wage, and try not to blow a fuse because you don’t think things through.
Look at what AG and I were TALKING ABOUT. Don’t extrapolate to the idea that Progressives VOTE against working-class people. However, in real life, they like to keep ’em at arms length because the DEMOGRAPHICS of Progressives has an inordinate number of well-to-do, educated, white suburbanites who haven’t a clue what a working-class life is really all about.
You can rant and rave all you want but you’re not SERIOUSLY going to tell me that, as social beings, progressives generally LIKE working-class people? Their social contacts are almost always in the same demographic of well-to-do, white, and educated.
E.
Rhinose “But I’m with you, the ones I’ve rubbed shoulders with are contemptuous of people they see as “uneducated” not realizing that they depend on the skills and labor of these “uneducated” for the food they eat, for their safety and well being. ”
The problem is that Rednecks think that this society is built around them.
Rhino said “What the working class needs isn’t for progressives to tell them how to live their lives. They need progressives to stop undermining them.”
Progressives “telling people how to live their lives”… a cute story. Damn Progressives like Jefferson, telling them they can’t have a 10 commandments plaque on the wall. Damn Obama, saving their jobs at the auto plant and keeping unleaded low enough to support their huge trucks and various motorized toys. Damn progressives setting aside federal land so they can do doughnuts in the dirt while bonding with their sons over aluminum-canned beer. Damn Progressives, with their minimum wage, 40-hour workweek, and generations that marched and demonstrated, shot at and jailed. Damn progressives, liberating the Negroes.
And then you, claiming they are “undermined” by progressives. Redneck hicks’ entire lives are circumscribed by forces they can’t control, and then they are not drinking themselves into a stupor, they grasp about for someone to blame, and usually grab hold of the wrong people for the wrong reasons.
I remember being admonished not to use polysyllabic words around my peers on the crew lest they feel inferior. That is the real problem. They hold on to pride, and it kills them because pride is not only deadly, it is fragile.
I know who is responsible. It was their redneck parents. Parenting is the process of infusing a blank slate with the bias and prejudices of the parents, for the parent’s self-fulfilment. But that is another, more universal issue.
Redneck culture is tolerated, because America is a tolerant society.
Now, there is a working class, of which rednecks are a minority group. I know lots of philosopher plumbers, gardeners, builders, contractors. I think the redneck class is getting nervous about the number of people with college degrees invading the skilled and unskilled trades, using their big words, not laughing at their redneck jokes, wearing non-redneck clothes, etc.
What is going to happen is that the rednecks that can’t compete will be kicked even farther down the socioeconomic ladder. They’ll be unprotected because of the gullibility of previous generations of Rednecks. They will compensate by resignation, and kill themselves slowly with cheap beer and all-you-can-eat buffets.
Redneck culture is easy to understand. Its a celebration of a legacy of stupidity. These hicks have no history, and their culture is simply pre-packaged nostalgia and outright fantasies sold to them.
There is a fatalism in that culture. Its a fatalism to strew clutter and garbage all over your lawn, to be an obnoxious drunk down at the bar 4 nights a week, to have a teenage son who is a “Juggalo” who was babysat by the TV his whole life.
Its a fatalism to pretend that you are too stupid to learn things, read a book, or walk in lockstep with whatever Republican happens to be running. It is also a fatalism to endorse Christian fundamentalism as some sort of ideal. Its a fatalism to be proud of symbols of the Old South, the confederacy, etc.
Progressives distinguish themselves from rednecks by imagining a world that doesn’t exist, but could be. Rednecks imagine a world that never was, and don’t have the capacity to imagine a different way of life.
Scientific advances, intellectual advances, facts and figures- these all bounce off the cranium. Rednecks are making adults with learning disorders look bad.
The level of redneck hicks’ personal development stops at the stage of destructive pride. I know people with sub-100 IQs who have union jobs, tough, dangerous jobs. No one persecutes them. They are protected by unions created by progressives. Their IQ is a definite problem, though. It makes them susceptible to being sweet-talked into bad mortgages, or voting against their interests, or pretty much any flashy lie that comes out of a TV commercial. It also makes them victims, of unscrupulous bosses who exploit their ignorance by sending them in to work at jobs where toxic gasses are being created.
BTW, Take a look at Randy Travis’s new mugshot. Yikes.
“Book lernin is fine but book lernin goes only so far.”
This sentiment pretty much sums up Redneck mentality: nothing of interest can be found at a library… an institution created by progressives for the benefit of all. Number of similar institutions created by Rednecks: none.
A-G said, “When the Kali Yuga breaks, there are going to be a lot of liberals who wished they had redneck friends.”
That is the ultimate redneck fantasy: that they are secretly necessary to have the engine of the economy functioning, and that their ATVs, guns, and diabetes will be assets in a more equitable future (where everyone is reduced to poverty and struggle).
A progressive might be defined as someone who thinks rednecks can be reformed, that they can be lured away from their stupidity and main-streamed into people who are aware of things in the world, and can have opinions that weren’t dispensed from the village preacher or the idiot Box. I’m not of that camp. I say line ’em all up in front of a pit and machine-gun them. bup-bup-bup-bup-bup. Oh, the humanity.
Vlad, thank you for helping to publicize the http://unfair.org campaign.
Gotta love social media for its ability to fight racism.
CORRECTION
http://unfaircampaign.org/
Thanks again, Vlad.
Gawd, the people on this site will tell you black is white and hot is cold and it’s so because they say it.
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And some provide factual information… and cite their sources.
And some rely more on books and peer-reviewed publications than opinions on the WWW.
“The people on this site” is a gross generalization.
Well, our realities are clearly different.
I AM a progressive and I mostly only hang with working class people, because I am one. Hence, the handle.
I live in the rural midwest, so that’s what I see. You live in Palo Alto, of course you know white, well-paid people. But I’m guessing some of the assholes are Republican, aren’t they?
It was the slander toward the Green Party that pissed me off, E, not the Democrats, for pete’s sake.
I don’t like Obamabots either.
Charles Hugh Smith keeps hitting it out of the park.
Check out today’s post, it’s a very creative approach on the issues of economics and the elite:
Social Fractals and the Corruption of America
http://www.oftwominds.com
lbendet, if you insert the http:// prefix, your URL will become a hyperlink, and more people will go read Charles Hugh Smith http://www.oftwominds.com
Yes the poster is appalling, disgusting, lib racist.
As far as Jews go, if they are 10M and Human total population is 7B, thats 1/7th of 1% of world population.
Quite a small slice of the pie.
All progressives are not smart, just all rednecks are not stupid. And there are nice guys and assholes on every block, whether they conform to your world view or not. I can guess at your category on the block. But then again you may just be trying to be earnest.
AG is right about hard times though. People with practical common sense will fair better than someone with a degree in sociology from harvard.
Let’s try this again, to get directly to Charles Hugh Smith’s blog, where we can read “Social Fractals and the Corruption of America”
http://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html
All progressives are not smart, just all rednecks are not stupid.
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You make another good point, and avoid the gross generalization that people like E. often engage in.
I have worked in the blue-collar world as a carpenter and in adobe construction. I’ve put up and taken down many a scaffold, and have thrown 30 pound adobe bricks up to co-workers on scaffolds.
Yet I love my local public library because it has BOOKS, and I support unions and gun control and gay marriage (MARRIAGE not “civil unions”).
Doesn’t seem a contradiction to me to be both progressive and blue-collar.
The problem is that Rednecks think that this society is built around them. – BJ
Um no, that would be smart guys like you.
So where’s this attitude come from? You get mouthy with some guy? Some guy maybe without your verbal facility? I’ll bet you thought you were pretty clever. I’ll bet you made him look bad. And then I’ll bet he beat your sorry ass. I’ll bet it was tough explaining to your dad and going to school the next day with two black eyes. I’ll bet you never got over it. Did you?
When it comes right down to it BJ what are you and people like you good for? Seriously. I mean aside from bullshitting?
Know what? I think that if it wasn’t for the people you so eloquently piss all over you’d have nothing. Nada, no house, no food, no car, no nothing. NOTHING. Am I right?
You want to know why? No, no it’s really no trouble. It’s my pleasure.
I think this economy has been hijacked and wrecked by bullshitters. People educated and trained for the express purpose of bullshitting. People who have no other function in life. I have long familiarity with bullshitters, I’ve worked with them, I know how they think, their attitudes, even how they smell.
And aside from bullshitting do you know what they’re good for? Nothing. They are as useless as tits on a bull. Parasites. They eat, they shit, they fornicate and they produce nothing but BULLSHIT.
So BJ, are you a bullshitter? Are you of the bullshitting class, did you produce nothing but bullshit your whole life? You don’t have to answer me. But be honest with yourself.
Did you build your house, grow your food, raise and kill the chicken you ate? Did you have any function at all in doing any of these things? No?
Who do you think did all this stuff? Who got their hands dirty? Who cut the porkchops you bought? Your invented class of philosopher butchers, tradesmen and farmers? Or the people you shit on? Be honest.
I have worked in the blue-collar world as a carpenter and in adobe construction. – Asoka
And I have a pet pteradactyl in the backyard.
It is not a contradiction. I worked construction while doing my undergrad. Being around those guys was an education in itself. Many of those guys excrete more brains than many college grads I know.
as a righty, I am just as frustrated as Bustinj when it comes to science and deliberate ignorance. I don’t think it used to be as bad. I believe it is a product of elite policy to create a large permanent underclass. that is what equality of out comes is all about.
This might come in handy in TLE as well as in lessening the diabetes epidemic.
Mindful Eating as Food for Thought
http://nyti.ms/wOaPDH
When the long-distance trucking industry shuts down in TLE, and the store shelves become empty in TLE, making your food last might come in handy.
Got to hand it to those Buddhists. I just love their simplicity: sitting, breathing, standing, walking, and eating. Most people do these things every day. The Buddhists turn them into meditation.
The blue-collar guys I worked with were very intelligent. One guy, who kind of mentored me when I was an apprentice, said I had to learn how to become a mechanic. I protested that I wanted to learn to become a carpenter, not a mechanic. He patiently explained to me that he meant “mechanic” in the sense of a being able to analyze and solve problems.
When I worked adobe construction a guy told me there are 400,000 decisions that have to be made in the course of home construction. My little brain did not believe that until I experienced it for myself.
What people outside the trades don’t realize is that there is a whole lot of thinking going on all day long in construction.
My little brain did not believe that until…
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Please Asoka, spare us the disingenuous self-deprecation.
This is my seventh attempt at posting a response to your question, “What verse?” – just so you know I’m not hiding. I wanted to see if I would get another “Thanks for posting…” message.
The eighth attempt did not work either.
You have read Robert Anton Wilson to confirm your prejudices and come away disappointed. The other day I shocked you with my leftist sentiments. That’s what reading RAW, understanding him, and putting his philosophy into practice looks like. Awake, get a cup of coffee, and decide what ideology you’re going to parade before the void today, because that’s how much difference it makes to an indifferent world that doesn’t give a toss about the opinions of isolated misanthropes like me. Or you.
materialistic premises of a mysticism without Spirit.
That’s rich. What’s it going to be tomorrow, Vlad? British Israelism?
Some of the things I learned back then would probably be hopeless for me now. The first week I was on a construction job I was high in a pipe rack with the fitters and welders. One of them could tell I was freaking out over the heights. He grabbed me by the arm and said just stand there and get your bearings. You’re not going to fall.Since then I prided myself on never thinking I was better than one of those guys because I went to college. That’s why it pisses me off so bad when I hear someone disrespecting working men /”rednecks.” Even when I don’t hold with there point of view I try to keep that in mind.
…because that’s how much difference it makes to an indifferent world that doesn’t give a toss about the opinions of isolated misanthropes like me. Or you.
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Well I hope you two boys are having a grand time ’cause I have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.
Is R.A. Wilson the dude that makes all those balls and tennis rackets?
Does “a toss” = a fig or a shit?
RippedThunder, what you copy/pasted is not true.
The New York Times wrote about Phil Boerner, who roomed with Obama during his first year at Columbia. The article included excerpts from the Columbia student directory, showing Obama living during his junior year at 142 West 109th Street near Columbia’s campus in New York City, and during his senior year at 339 East 94th Street. Boerner recalled that Obama sometimes wrapped himself in a sleeping bag to keep warm in the chilly apartment they shared, and that some nights he would cook chicken curry for dinner.
In an article published in Columbia College Today, Boerner also wrote:
Boerner: I remember often eating breakfast with Barack at Tom’s Restaurant on Broadway. Occasionally we went to The West End for beers. We enjoyed exploring museums such as the Guggenheim, the Met and the American Museum of Natural History, and browsing in bookstores such as the Strand and the Barnes & Noble opposite Columbia. We both liked taking long walks down Broadway on a Sunday afternoon, and listening to the silence of Central Park after a big snow. I also remember jogging the loop around Central Park with Barack.
Obama even published an article in a school magazine called the Sundial. A reporter for the conservative Human Events magazine recently called it “a wholesale endorsement of all sorts of leftist claptrap fashionable at the time.” The full article is available on the Web site of Politico.com. It was published in the issue dated March 10, 1983.
RT, the e-mail you posted incorrectly claims that ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos was a classmate of Obama. They were both students at Columbia for about one academic year, but Stephanopoulos was a year ahead. Obama received his degree in 1983, while Stephanopoulos received his a year earlier, according to a university press release. Neither of them were “class of 1984,” as the message incorrectly claims.
The message recycles — and exaggerates to the point of falsification — some attacks that were raised in the heat of the 2008 presidential campaign. The claim that Fox News could not find any classmates who remembered Obama, for example, was published in a Sept. 11, 2008, Wall Street Journal editorial, which attacked then-candidate Obama for not releasing more information about his two years at the university. The message also makes much of Wayne Allyn Root’s statement in an interview that he didn’t know anybody who remembered Obama at Columbia. That appeared Sept. 5, 2008, in Reason magazine. What the message fails to mention is that Root was at the time a candidate for vice president on the Libertarian ticket. Root was stating that “[a] vote for Obama is four years of Karl Marx,” but even Root stopped short of claiming that Obama was not actually a student at Columbia.
SOURCES
“Barack Obama ’83 Becomes First College Alumnus To Win Presidency.” Columbia University. 5 Nov 2008.
Boss-Bicak, Shira. “Barack Obama ’93: Is He the New Face of The Democratic Party?” Columbia College Today. Jan 2005.
Cowan, Allison Leigh. “Recollections of Obama’s Ex-Roommate.” New York Times “City Room” Blog. 20 Jan 2009, accessed 14 Feb 2010.
Boerner, Phil. “Barack Obama ’83, My Columbia College Roommate.” Columbia College Today. Jan/Feb 2009.
“Obama’s Lost Years.” Editorial. Wall Street Journal. 11 Sep 2008.
Welch, Matt. “Wayne Allyn Root’s Million-Dollar Challenge.” Reason Magazine. 5 Sep 2008.
This is the Devil’s Kingdom and He is obviously against you. That is a point in your favor – against me?
I didn’t read RAW to confirm anything. Will you knock off your insane bitterness? Any second now I expect you to break out with your famous “Whites have treated me worse than anybody” – which is by definition if you grow up surrouned by Whites and not someone else.
Here you go, BuckStud. In an effort to humanize the war, read more about Will Stacey:
http://www.thefastertimes.com/politics/2012/01/31/the-tragedy-and-grace-of-sgt-william-stacey/
Bring them home, NOW!
(and I don’t care if Procon thinks they will only be flooding the job market … better living here than dying in vain there)
De Nada, Soak. You people haven’t a clue. Just keep talking and let people hear what you really believe. Ol’ Bustin above believes in the rat-tat-tat-tat of those Whites who would stand in the way of Utopia – just like the Bolsheviks believed.
I’m scaring myself by agreeing with you again. We have done all we can in Afghanistan. Five minutes after we leave it will be as if we were never there.
Prog and I would have plenty of work for them to do down on the border.
Why are so against the idea of Obama being gay? Is it homophobia – fear of gays?
Michelle did fake girl pushups against Jimmy Fallon.
The magnitude of the tragedy, what our country has lost and is losing each year we stay in Afghanistan, is revealed in the death of Marines like Will Stacey.
It is easy to use phrases like “the best and the brightest” or “cream of the crop” without actually putting a face on it. These are senseless deaths.
Will Stacey, RIP. Semper Fi … a la vida.
One further observation, this one about the young white dudes riding the rails:
1) He’s heavily tattooed, even and especially about the neck and skull.
2) He has an IPad.
3) He is invariably in the club car, drunk and loud.
That pretty much sums up whitey.
–WSP7
Jim, speaking of sporting events, you failed to mention the soccer match in Egypt last week where 70 people were killed, precipitating a national crisis. That puts the pseudo violence of our own Superbowl to shame. That’s a Super Bowl no holds barred, Arab style!!!
–WSP7
“I waited for someone to attack your comment on evolutionary outcomes. no one did because it is irrefutable.”
Or just too stupid to deserve a response 😉
Just like yours, but hey, I feel kinda punchy…
😉
Here is another bit of advice for TLE that I heard in childhood (from World War II)
Use it up
Wear it out
Make it do
Or do without
I’m still wearing shoes I bought in 1999. I am immune to “fashion” … though styles do eventually come back around.
And Q, glad to see you back under the name ‘Q’.
One question: Camden, New Jersey … WTF happened???
I’m just reading “Baseball in the Garden of Eden”, about the origins of baseball, and Camden is described as one of the Gardens of Eden.
How about now?
—WSP7
When I posted my initial response I thought about writing down what I anticipated your response would be, but, quite frankly, you’re a bit of an energy drain and so I declined. You’re also very predictable; your response was exactly as I imagined.
Like Vlad, your specialty is erecting strawmen as a pretext to thump your own ideological chest. On many occasions I have expressed disdain for the very wars we’re discussing but you choose to ignore that. But you’re right about one thing: the war in Afghanistan is an “abstract” notion for anyone who has not been in that actual field of battle. It goes without saying that includes you too, Asoka.
Here’s my bottom line: I don’t imagine you would have the guts to be so disrespectful and insolent to the actual family, friends, and fellow military comrades of the fallen soldier in real life as you have been in cyberspace. So that makes you a punk and a coward in my book… just another internet peacock tiptoeing safely among his droppings.
“I’m full up to here with high IQs. I’ve had a lifetime of their bullshit and I’m choking on it. Look at the mess we’re in. Who’s doing is it? The pundits, the thinkers, the perfumed, the glitterati, the preeners, the people with tall foreheads….”
Gee, sounds just like Fascism to me, let me check:
Yep, Fascism.
“How can the terribly smart redeem themselves? Hmmm… let me think. OK, when I see a high IQ learn how to operate a backhoe with finesse or when one of them can work on a drilling rig without getting themselves or someone else killed, then I’ll be impressed. Until then, in my books, they don’t have any basis for calling themselves “superior” morally or otherwise.”
Say, dude, I know plenty of very smart, people that can back a big rig into a loading dock, operate backhoes, and all that other stuff. Some even have law degrees. They just decided that doing all of the above was much more FUN than working in a great big corporate law firm.
So, next time you are talking to an oil rig worker, ask him or her what kind of degrees they have, Mr. Oh So Superior Hisself.
In the mean time, you can kiss my liberal & progressive ass.
😉
BuckStud,
Read about the experience of Will’s godmother going to Dover to meet the body of her godson.
http://miriamswell.wordpress.com/2012/02/06/devon-miller-duggan-writes-on-the-death-of-her-godson-in-afganistan/
Say, BustinJ, you said it so much more eloquently than I …
Thanks….
😉
The Green Party has made it abundantly clear on its website: America is for the world. Thus, the Greens have zero qualms about putting Americans in competition with the global poor for work and the global rich for housing.
You spouted off about all the radical tradesmen you hire in the tight, white Midwest. You think the vatos and his homeys who are casing your house while doing landscaping listen to the “Thom Hartman” show? Donate to NPR? Care about sustainable agriculture?
How the hell do you expect America will go “green” when we import millions of high time-preference Third Worlders every year? Where do you think your “living wage” will be set when Big Business can just import more and cheaper workers?
Naive fool. The Left can lie down in the violent, corrupt, polluted bed they’re making for themselves.
Asoka,
Are we having a problem understanding each other? Let me be more succinct. I would do everything in my power to prevent a loved one from serving in the military and fighting in these wars. Is that clear enough for you?
But you go to far in taunting a fallen soldier. If I was God I would send you back in time to learn the Code of Bushido. Pacifists such as yourself believe that George Armstrong Custer hated the Lakotas’ encircling him. I believe he stood in awestruck admiration for those about to kill him.
“Does “a toss” = a fig or a shit?”
-Q.
Q.,
It’s my opinion (derived from context, mind you) that “a toss” would be a handful of something resulting from “a wank”.
So, further, “a tosser” would be the same as “a wanker” with the addition of the wanking’s successful results.
If I’m wrong, I’m certain it will be pointed out without much delay. …By some fuckin’ tosser, no doubt!
;o)
‘Interesting incident at Penn Station in NYC.’
I would say its alarming soldiers are patrolling USA streets.
And yr description of the Homeless in Fla sounds like LA, or many places in the USA.
How can someone who is 82 on their next B’day be ‘quickly aging’?
Yes I agree if you go to my website Arthur Berman has a link. The last one under Corn Pone. JHK also posted the link to Arthur Berman’s website on the Kunstlercast episode screen.
The myth of 100 years of natural gas turns out to be just another flavor of Kool-Aid to calm the discontented and an excuse to do nothing.
A wise society would dig out of recession by putting people to work building a sustainable economy and infrastructure. Windmills energy efficient buildings and transportation. For when the only natural gas is that which comes from your a………..
Listen to the KunstlerCast #192 if you can.
Welcome to greenwashing!
I was chased down by a ‘Latino’ yday..I photoed him committing a minor crime.
Cant remember where I found this [sbpdl , maybe]:
Due to the ever-popular HB-1 visas, our nation is being flooded with English speaking people, who have absolutely no intention of actually integrating………………………………..
Gender-based selective abortions in the Subcontinent are so rampant that non-hospital purchases of ultrasound diagnostic imaging equipment have been outlawed……………….
Do you think that’s deterred American manufacturers of such systems from shipping them to India?
the HB-1 and student visas are a means for Hindus and Chinese to transplant their cultures to our country, nothing more. They form their enclaves and exclude Whites from buying property nearby. I saw what they’ve done and are doing to some of the nicer White towns east of Los Angeles. …….
Once, when their numbers were much smaller, they did a fair job of assimilating. I went to school with some of them. Now, they have reached a critical mass that enables them to live apart, looking down on us…………………..
I don’t think that there are nearly as many Hindus as Orientals here, but they are even less assimilable. They have no place in a free country.
Poor Los Angeles: Orientals on the east and south, Iranians on the west, and Mexicans in the middle. The beautiful White city is disappearing, carved up by squabbling foreigners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gettin’ mighty Rovian in h’yar. Some seem to be doing a bunch of busywork rewriting history and pointing fingers at all the wrong people, which will turn out to be another definition of “trivial” in the longer run.
Good luck widdat, because the liars and the deluded jump first. Without fail. It’s gonna be the world’s largest lesson in human “selection”.
A very good martial artist acquaintance of mine – considered “The Man” in Ba Qua – who also spent a lot of time in Antelope Oregon with Rajneesh, once told me that so many “pacifists” are simply people afraid to fight. That in order to truly be a pacifist one had to first go through the tunnel of violence and come out the other side. At that point, the pacificism is a result of clearly seeing violence for what it is unafraid, as opposed to recoiling from violence as a result of fear.
It’s an interesting concept, but I’m not sure I buy it. Like so many esoteric concepts, it may look better on paper than it actually is in real life.
That’s Ok. Just buy a ticket to watch the Harlem Globetrotters make fools out of the all White Jersey Reds. It’s funny!
Asoka, Are we having a problem understanding each other?
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Yes, from your very first cringe.
As a Thinker, I’m interested in the structure, the main points, the rule, the skeleton. As an Artist, you’re interested in the form, the details, the exceptions, the body. As this a conceptual venue, the advantage here is mine. You might find exceptions that don’t fit into my Rules, but that doesn’t invalidate them. And you are powerless to create conceptual structures of your own.
Charles Hugh Smith keeps hitting it out of the park. Check out today’s post, it’s a very creative approach on the issues of economics and the elite:
Social Fractals and the Corruption of America
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Indeed.
“This dishonest, self-serving individual behavior is a fractal of what is happening in our society at large: dishonest and self-serving people are extending and pretending, and their complicity keeps the system going.”
Their complicity keeps the system going. But they pay dearly for it because they all suffer from mass depression.
Right. All Non Whites are automatically innocent in your silly little red book.
Kumar?
They are having a girlie fight.
“ As a Thinker, I’m interested in the structure, the main points, the rule, the skeleton. As an Artist, you’re interested in the form, the details, the exceptions, the body.”
Actually, Vlad, as a racist you’re most interested in “the form, the details, the exceptions, the body“. And as an artist, I’m most interested in “ the structure, the main points, the rule, the skeleton”.
Nice try, but the pebble is still in my hand, Grasshopper. So the next time you profess to be a thinker, try taking off the dunce cap first!
…and Camden is described as one of the Gardens of Eden.
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It is hard for me to imagine Camden was EVER a Garden of Eden. I grew up in Collingswood, NJ which is on Camden’s eastern edge so I’m quite familiar.
Here is a blurb from Wiki:
Vlad will not be surprised that the population is heavily black and Hispanic/Latino with 17.6% whites and a smattering of misc.
In 1940 I was born in Cooper Hospital in Camden. In 2005 I wrote a memoir containing these paragraphs:
I don’t know if having been born in Camden was considered a positive or a negative at the time – it was once the home of Walt Whitman if that counts for anything – but surely since then it would signal inauspicious beginnings. In my day its only claims to fame were its New York Ship Building Corp (the Kitty Hawk aircraft carrier was built and deployed from there in 1961) and Campbell Soup (think famous pop art by Andy Warhol) that bought up a goodly portion of the Garden State’s “Jersey tomato” crop each year to make its best know soup.
Back in the 1950s a trip to Philadelphia from Collingswood involved traveling through Camden by going west on the Admiral Wilson Blvd past various used car lots and seedy go-go joints and then running a gantlet of dumpy black-owned row homes during the transit of which one prayed not to get a flat tire, on up to the Camden bridge (since renamed the Benjamin Franklin) that crossed the Delaware. The bridge toll was a quarter in those days and my dad told me that when the bridge first opened in 1926 the toll was to be temporary. As they say, “don’t hold your breath.” Today a trip over the bridge costs $3.00.
Some time later things got worse in Camden. Nearly all of the row homes along the “gantlet” and its environs were torn down and for years all that remained were dirt mounds, broken glass, rubble and a boarded up Sears Roebuck at the eastern edge that had been pilfered into non-existence. On top of that, Camden probably has had more politicians indicted for various crimes than even Newark or Atlantic City – two other sad and notorious New Jersey cities long past their heydays.
I like to think Camden’s downfall and pathetic state are punishment for Walt Whitman having stupidly written the words “I am large, I contain multitudes.”
actually, your friend is right…and that s pretty eloquent of him, too…
watch the Harlem Globetrotters make fools out of the all White Jersey Reds.
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Their shtick of making fools of whitey goes back about 80 years. I saw them in Philly as a young kid.
I love love love how you express yourself. I believe that I was born with a red pencil behind my ear. Shouldn’t the word have been “where” rather than “were”?
…too complex for the diabetic fat men to comprehend, and grossly misreported in the public arena, were Cable TV and newspapers work the levers of propaganda for one client or another.
On Superbowl Sunday, I and my youngest daughter went out to the local bookstore/cafe, had breakfast and read for a bit. Later that day we picked up my wife and eldest daughter, then spent the next couple of hours bowling (where my eldest daughter kicked my butt, sad to day).
At one point the bowling alley owner lowered screens to show the Superbowl, but after enough protests from the patrons, turned them off and let the few bowlers there concentrate on their games (I noticed a fair number of families there … hmmmm).
After that we had dinner at our favorite Thai restaurant, the one where they know our order better than we do. Again, they had the game going in the adjacent bar, but no one was watching. Finally we headed home, where my eldest worked on knitting a scarf (for a cosplay group she’s a part of), my youngest read a book from the Redwall series, and I went and worked on my own novel (The Jane Doe Project) and my wife wrote on hers (no name yet).
Not everyone is bought into the bread and circuses, and there are more and more of each us day that have decided that the first step to reclaiming your life is to not participate in the game.
I know, I know. If I could only be smart like you
If I could only be smart like you
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Boss,
Years ago, while speaking about black culture with Charlie Rose, African American cultural (and jazz) critic, Stanley Crouch, noted the necessity for young black men to be “cool” while for Jews “it is OK to be just smart.”
Your sentence above has the words similarly arranged when I’m sure you really meant “If only I could be smart like you.”
Q, Thanks for pointing that out. Now I’m worried that really have a problem. It took me a couple of seconds to get it.
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And I left out I in the second sentence of this post. I will get my scheduler to make a doctors appointment tomorrow if I can remember.
Those blacks that sort and deliver yr mail Vlad!
‘Now, there is a working class, of which rednecks are a minority group. I know lots of philosopher plumbers, gardeners, builders, contractors. I think the redneck class is getting nervous about the number of people with college degrees invading the skilled and unskilled trades, using their big words, not laughing at their redneck jokes, wearing non-redneck clothes, etc. ‘
Clearly the truth in Santa Barbara is the Mexicans invaded and took those jobs.
SB is now 42% ‘latino’.
Well the lamestream media doesnt care about towel heads, does it?
[Scene from the 1996 movie “The Island of Dr. Moreau” starring Marlon Brando and Val Kilmer]
Dr. Montegomery to Edward Douglas:
“There is no way off the island. You must face the fact. Here…smoke this…and maybe you’ll start to understand.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island_of_Dr._Moreau_(1996_film)
from:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=178113
There is also the “hard Work” theory where the idea is that if only everyone would work harder and harder more and more work would appear and be created and such. If only managers and enterprises would keep on inventing new projects and new goals ever changing you can create an infinite amount of work, etc. Maybe, maybe not as Man is the Infinitely Programmable Machine so anything goes and anything can go, etc. The theory doesn’t take into account a few constraints: resources are limited, the Technological Economy optimizes and automates work out of existence, Profits must be made, you just can’t invent and force any project and goal since the enterprise performing the work must make a profit and someone must be willing to evaluate and pay for it accordingly, etc., people and skill sets are limited, sometimes hard to find and People are Lazy so to say, etc.
Anyways, another limit and problem to all is that for many tasks, an enterprise may need a Specialized Information Worker only for a short amount of time and only to solve one specific problem and then not anymore, so that worker would have his work cut out for him for only a month or six months or such. And maybe that kind of specialization is needed only very occasionally and only in very specific sectors and for specific tasks and projects. But in order to become that specialized the worker must invest maybe a few years and money to get educated accordingly: so you have another contorted situation where the specialization requires a much higher investment than the amount of time that kind of work is performed in the future and the amount of money that can be asked for it. Anyways, the present Technological Economy is too complex and with too many contrasting forces to really have any real general solution to its problems. One thing I am sure of is that Work is Becoming Obsolete, there will be less and less work in the future no matter what. Even because the very definition of Information Worker – Services – Tertiary means one who “works smart”, works with Information and this has nothing at all to do with “Hard Work” or even “Time at Work” as in “More Time at Work Means More Production and More Result”, nay, it is the exact opposite, the Services and Information Economy and Innovation and “More Education Myth” means mostly a little smart work that generates huge economies of scale and huge amplifications, go figure.
But anything can be assigned anything, it doesn’t matter, Man will invent anything and any fake causes and effects and rules just because, so all of the above may be 100 % wrong. Amen.
Reference:
http://instantsingularity1.blogspot.com/
Superbowl XLVI —
I was thinking about the number last year. Anyone here fluent in Roman numerals? Perhaps Eleuthero?
I say VLI (and VL for last year). I don’t see anything special about number ten in Roman numerals – it’s not decimal, so why couldn’t one subtract five?
(I thought that 1999 could be written as MIM, but I was corrected that one could subtract only numbers one order smaller, so MCMXCIX. But 5 is one order smaller than 50, so 1945 should go as MCMVL, not?)
HA HA!! Q-check, it looks like ya got some competition…does this mean that the exorbitant price of $1.67 per corrrection might start dropping…?
From The “Could People Get Any More Superficial?” Files
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Have any of you single old farts ever tried one of these dating sites? Hilarious. Are these hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of women CLONES of one another. Their self-descriptions are almost entirely identical, essentially odes about how sexy, humorous, full of life, loving, cuddly, all-accepting, life-embracing, and gosh-darned wonderful they are. Of course, 99% (yes, I really MEAN ninety-nine percent) are divorced, often many times over, yet we’re to believe they’re a ray of sunshine for every possible suitor.
Months ago I was going to write a joke “profile” where I said that I was a five-pack-a-day smoker who couldn’t live without a fifth of Jack Daniels a day and that I rarely moved from my couch. Of course, the dating site rejected my fake profile as “offensive” to other subscribers.
These sites may appear to be a windfall to middle-aged people but, in the end, they just bum you out more because everyone blows several lungfulls of blue sky up your arse and they all want the same thing … to turn you into the person that the poor schmuck they divorced refused to be.
How many people of either gender are capable of living a serene, uncomplicated, modest life without all these pretensions to being Jet-setters, go-getters, and so on. The only ones whose descriptions implied they could just be happy without using jet fuel to see every monument and capitol between here and Tiperary were the “spiritual” types who, of course, think that their meditations will bring them cosmic consciousness.
Seriously, folks … if you ever want to spend about 20 bucks to do an experiment, join a dating site for a month and see the human race at its most conceited, most vainglorious, most unrealistic, and most wasteful. These people have a “carbon footprint” the size of Alaska.
An irony of modern life is that it is now quite common for people to not know their own town thoroughly yet they think that five days in Venice or Paris will make them an “expert”. Travel, like so many things life allows us in the modern age, is mostly like Andy Warhol’s description of sex … “The biggest nothing of all time”.
E.
Who whuz it again, that claimed to have slayed the Q-beast? Tonite is nothing, but more midnite jam sessions, for me (cleaning out my “hoard” room – 3 days so far, another 2 to go).
I found out about this artist in 1985, from a Chinese friend of mine (he was a child of UN ambassadors [they lived mostly in Belgium], and could speak fluently in German, French, Spanish, Chinese, and English – I used to listen to him talking to his Mom on the phone, and they’d just “hop” from one language to the next, without apparent reason).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsvKBvS6vNE
From:
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/63952-a-few-technologies
[quote][quote]View PostIronMan79, on 7 February 2012 – 07:57 PM, said:
I was noticing how the Technological Economy is really based on the discovery and use of only a handful of technologies that then lend themselves to constant improvements and refinements and such. Like Silicon Technology in Electronics and Integrated circuits and Microprocessors or the Internal Combustion Engine, or Jet Airlines, etc.
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You are focussing only on end-consumer technology. You are (for example) forgetting the technologies used in industry…
Chemical processes in general have gone through a non-stop evolution of getting new, more efficient, cleaner, and better products. Multi-billion euro worth discoveries are common there. Take for example the strong fibre technologies like kevlar. Or take the composite material technologies. Or look at the gas cleaning technologies which make our cities liveable again. Or the drinking water technologies which means that water doesn’t taste like chlorine anymore. Maybe you don’t notice those, because you are neither their supplier or their consumer. But these things definitely affect the average guy on the street. I could extend this list into hundreds of examples, each worth billions.
[quote]View PostIronMan79, on 9 February 2012 – 07:21 AM, said:
Anyways, another limit and problem to all is that for many tasks, an enterprise may need a Specialized Information Worker only for a short amount of time and only to solve one specific problem and then not anymore, so that worker would have his work cut out for him for only a month or six months or such. And maybe that kind of specialization is needed only very occasionally and only in very specific sectors and for specific tasks and projects. But in order to become that specialized the worker must invest maybe a few years and money to get educated accordingly: so you have another contorted situation where the specialization requires a much higher investment than the amount of time that kind of work is performed in the future and the amount of money that can be asked for it.
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Yes, some jobs are becoming obsolete. So what?
New specializations are emerging. And it’s just a matter of getting proper education.
I don’t know in which economic hell hole you’re living, but where I am (Netherlands), there is a shortage of scientists and engineers. You are talking about the technical world? And you’re suggesting that technical people will be out of a job? In fact, it’s the exact opposite. There is a shortage of scientists and engineers in this country. We import brains.
If companies require someone’s expertise for only a few months, then that job will be outsourced. It’s completely normal – in fact, even common – to temporarily hire some engineer to fix a problem. There are companies which are like a “Rent-an-Engineer”.
Your view is just over-simplified.
[quote]View PostIronMan79, on 7 February 2012 – 07:57 PM, said:
[…]so all of the above may be 100 % wrong.[/quote]
That’s the first thing I agree with in your posts. [/quote]
[quote]“Yes, some jobs are becoming obsolete. So what?
New specializations are emerging. And it’s just a matter of getting proper education.”[/quote]
Which ? Be specific. Do you need a thousand new Chemical Engineers ? a thousand new Composite Material Engineers ? A thousand new Water Processing Engineers ? So then what ? that only makes 3,000 Engineers hired (for 8 hours a day for years on end ? and making at least 2,000 dollars a month ?). But the USA and the EU and JAPAN have millions of unemployed: ok, I got it, they are stupid, aren’t educated enough, didn’t learn the very last top notch skills where they are looking for hundreds of Engineers, and most of all they are all Lazy Bumbs, and so blame the Victim.
Look, I agree, there are many things, and many sectors and many kinds of jobs, but the way it is set up today, with millions of unemployed looking for jobs and entire continents (China, India, Indonesia, Brazil, and others) robbing work from the first world, I have a hard time buying into your mostly “dominating Right wing ideology” whee it is always the workers fault…
[code]You’re just ranting, aren’t you? This is just one giant complaint, which, I guess, comes from some huge disappointment. I’m guessing you lost your job?
Don’t blame the technology sector. Blame the financial sector for this crisis.
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Ever since I was a kid I have always heard of this myth of we need more scientists and engineers, etc. And in fact I became one (sort of), and have worked in technical environments, etc. The myth was also due to strong investments in Military technology and Space programs and such but I am now mostly convinced that something else is going on: this myth acts as justification to keep people out of work, to not distribute money, to always put the blame in something that is wrong with the “workers”, etc.
Of course there are other forces at play: cultural forces in that an environment of “hard work” ( ? an iffy concept today…) and research fosters dedication and ambition and so filters out many types of people that don’t exactly abide to certain models (think South Korea and how their strong investments in Technology has achieved them so much status – they have cornered the worldwide flat screen TV market and smart phone market) or even because they are not smart enough, educated enough, too lazy or whatever. So you have environments where you must fit in and abide pretty narrowly, and this may be the case of certain technical environments and corporations (but of course every situation is different and it is hard to generalize).
But the Technological Economy, by definition will always, by structure, kill more jobs than create them and even when they do create them and if they do, they will create fewer jobs than the ones killed and those fewer jobs will be harder to do because you have to be a very competitive and top notch Chemical Engineer or Process Engineer or whatever.
SO kill 1,000 factory worker jobs and create 200 top notch jobs: and another thing, the very fact that the jobs created are Education Based, Information Workers based, Innovation based means they are available worldwide, information and people can flow freely between continents, so you are competing against millions of potential top notch technicians educated in often completely different environments (South Korean Engineers studied 12 hours a day and such (if it is true?)) and with different (stricter) rules from a lot of places in the USA or EU (JAPAN is the competitor in this case ?).
Anyways, my solution is Free Salaries to all and Cheap Rents to all, check out all of my posts nameta9 on http://www.ilovephilosophy.com, you will learn the absolute and total truth in time…
An example:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=177908
“That is a point in your favor – against me?”
I will not judge another man’s servant – will you?
I agree with your comments about pacifism. Concerning General Custer there is an American Indian tradition that he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the batttle of the Little Bighorn. This story was related by the Englishman Archie Belaney, who lived amongst Canadian Indians and took the name of Grey Owl. He successfully impersonated an Indian and became world famous as a writer, documentary film maker, and lecturer on the subject of conservation. He worked as a guide at both Camps Wabikon and Keewaydin on Lake Temagami, in northern Ontario. He also live out west and knew plains Indians who had fought Custer. That is how he got the story about the Little Big Horn. He was finally exposed as an impostor by a reporter from the North Bay Nugget. He once gave a presentation at Buckingham Palace in front of the current QE II when she was a small girl. In my opinion his sources for this legend of Custer being a suicide are unimpeachable.
Mornin’ A, Like I said I did not check the info. I’m too lazy. I just tossed it out there. I get all sorts of shit e-mails. Thanks for the correction.
From:
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/63952-a-few-technologies/
“Aha… so this is just one giant spam advertisement for your own website.
If that is the goal of your posts, I see no more reason to discuss. ”
“I don’t know in which economic hell hole you’re living, but where I am (Netherlands), there is a shortage of scientists and engineers.”
Take your choice, there is no shortage of “Economic Hell Holes”. Near to your home there are a few: Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland, Portugal… towards the east Ukraine, parts of Russia, Pakistan, towards the South most of Northern Africa, in the Americas, parts of the USA, parts of Mexico…
you get the idea…
They should all become Engineers and Scientists, that is the problem (or immigrate to the Netherlands).
Hey, Vlad, you’re right the white countries are the winners, it is all about race after all….
Fear and Loathing in the USA
Looking over the posts from last night two things struck me in the early light of day.
First, Mika: You responded to my post of the social fractals and I thought good, someone had a response to what CHS wrote. I would recommend checking him out every day and I sometimes email him a compliment on some of his observations.
He addresses the interplay of social ills, philosophical ills and economic ills of our moment.
Point is that people will hold onto anything they know for fear of the unknown. It’s not simply a matter of accepting all the bad as if nothing is wrong. It’s a question of pure fear–what if we let the banks fail? What becomes of all of us?
Could life be better for all of us if we let go of the system we have now? How long can this graft go on before it becomes untenable for the mass of people living in these conditions?
There’s always a tipping point when a system goes rogue, but what it is will most likely be when the energy issues collide with the inevitable bubble-ishish bursts again. Fear will be the driving force.
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E.
The dating sites are a bit like adoption centers with everyone trying to sell themselves to strangers. Let’s face it, it’s very commercial, coming out of a society that tries to get people to buy. Nothing personal, you know.
I think the social value system of the moment probably calls for well traveled-well heeled individuals looking for sophisticated same.
I have been out of the dating market for so long I never dealt with that, but I have friends who have. One even got married to someone she met through the service.
Most of the time, though I would imagine its just like being set up on a blind date…Oh, yeah I had a few real weird ones.–I could at least do a stand-up comedy routine about that!
I read it and while interesting the analogy with fractals does not work for me.
Fractal terrains like trees on a mountain ridge tend to look the same viewed close up or far away. Applying a fractal analogy to the common man and those at the top of society who lead assumes they are cut from the same cloth when they are not. Those who lead belong to a plutocracy of privilege. They are not of the same social class as the common man and the analogy to fractals thus fails. They have different standards of behavior and world views.
As more men follow than lead infection at the top does infect the rest of society. This true and unfortunate fact of life I’d compare more to the spreading of a disease than fractal behavior.
Social Fractals and the Corruption of America
Seriously, d00d, you are thinking too hard. Just watch what will happen in Greece, in the next few months…
Economy the size of Austin, Texas – virility the size of *MY COCK*… Oh, and yes – that fucking boner hits me up every day, multiple times… (bah!) *SUE ME*
Ix,
Do you really expect me to respond to that?
From:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=174921&start=25
A = not A. That is the question. That is a “contradictory universe”. Where does this exist, how does this exist ? It does exist, but it doesn’t “do” anything. That is the point, it is in a metaphysical dimension of no activity, no further actions, no further relationships, it needs no other relationships, there are no further elaborations, no other interactions of this state of “existence” or “being” than itself. You are not going to use it to reach other new relationships, you can’t use it in any sense at all, because using it means plugging it in some kind of language, logic, some kind of “progression” towards something else, but it already contains, within itself, all that it needs since it doesn’t need anything else, it is total, totalizing and finished.
It especially has no relationship with “us”, with our mind, there is nothing we can do with it, there is no kinds of “Intentionality of Use” that we can apply to it. This is real metaphysics, real philosophy, that for which there is no further use, no further relationship, except these words or similar that describe vaguely how it relates to what we already know. All of our science, language, thoughts and memory are relationships defined according to what we already know, are new elaborations in an already given solution space, and these new elaborations and calculations bring on further new ones or apparently new ones, expanding the solution space as in the “progress of science and knowledge and the insertion of new bits in memory as a result”, that are “used” to generate others, in a “process”, a cycle.
But metaphysics is still, static, is frozen, doesn’t progress. Like when we stop to think about time, it is a constant present moment that divides that past from the future, but it isn’t the past or the future and the moment is fleeting, is intractable. These kinds of problems have no solution, these problems are absolutely new every time you look at them, there is no possible solution to this equation, there is no possible “progress” as is understood in terms of logic and science that can be applied to this, it will be always the same whether we look at it at 5 years old or after a trillion times, at 100 years old. There is nothing we can “do” with this problem, no further possible “understanding” by meditating upon it. And indeed metaphysics and philosophy at this level also has no social use, no one can help you on this one, you are alone with this, your mind is alone with this thought and no amount of social interaction, of “communication” will change this. And in fact real philosophy has no need to be communicated, has no use, has no social meaning, has no logical use whatsoever, it is simply the mind looking at impossible problems, taking a glimpse in a new universe of metaphysical platonic monolithic slabs of crashed mental “computer programs”.
Most problems in philosophy are completely new every time you look at them, no matter how many times you already looked at them, this is because the nature of these problems and the way our mind reacts to them is always like the first time, we repeat forever the same awe and feel the same distance from these problems, there is no possible progress in philosophy, it is always repeated the same and often, even the more you look at these problems “the newer they become”, the further you get from solutions, the worse it gets. All of our normal everyday logic goes out of the window when thinking about a “contradictory universe”, “time”, “existence” and other similars, the difference with everyday concepts, with science or even mathematics and physics is astounding, the problem of “existence” is so general and abstract, that all other problems become puny, irrelevant, for little boys.
Like the concept of “existence”. This is also a monolithic slab, for anything to “exist”, “existence” itself must already exist, but exactly where, in what way is something real, does something exist, is something true ? No solution, the further you think about it, the worst it gets, reverse progress, another characteristic of philosophy is that the more you “work” on problems the further you get away from any solutions, a concept or problem must simply be perceived, stated, and left alone, and your mind can simply wander, don’t use logic, it is useless, counterproductive.
One last thing, instead of “A = not A”, write, “= A not =”. What is = ? How can this be ? It is, but it is another monolithic slab. Write others, invent other concepts they are all real, what is the square root of the square root without applying it to numbers ? That is metaphysics, that is where things really exist.
The structure of existence, if something is true it must exist in all time and in all points in space simultaneously, otherwise there is a place where it isn’t. So if we are alive and what we see is true, then we must be alive in all time and for all points in space otherwise (but we were dead, and will be dead, and we are not walking on mars)… and we must be concentrating on the same information the same Information Relationship, Reciprocal Information Interactions and Reciprocal Mass – Energy – Matter Interactions, but if there are other Reciprocal Information Relationships, what makes the previous one still exist ? Memory ? But if you think of the previous one you lose the present one, so what gives ? We are contradiction, we are without any solution.
In theoretical physics, the most abstract theory of new universes has the same distance in our mind to the most concrete theory, they are all denotations, just Reciprocal Information Relationships, some are associated to measurements that somehow confirm the “reality” of the theory, but in all truth, they are all real, only some can be translated into some other language where instrumental manipulations can be used. But this begs the question, since we always essentially just talk to ourselves, we probably can invent a new instrumental relationship, and lie to ourselves and make any theory truth.
Reality couldn’t have been based but on Quantum Theory, it couldn’t have been any different, there is no way that an electron circling an atom could have been a rigid ball with an infinitely precise size, a monolithic slab, otherwise the world would have been completely deterministic and completely tractable and predictable, the three body problem exactly solvable (but there is an abstract universe where this is true, that abstract universe exists and is real just as much as ours given the nature of “existence”).
But reality exists exactly because the laws of physics don’t exist in some points of space, the probabilistic, quantum nature of reality reflects this, it is the non existence of any patterns and laws that make the existence of the patterns and laws of physics real. Just like philosophy states that something exists only because it exists in the background of its opposite.
Reality is the subtle string of the lack of the laws of physics that gives the laws of physics their reality.
I read it and while interesting the analogy with fractals does not work for me.
Those who lead belong to a plutocracy of privilege.
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And? The corruption dishonesty and thievery is same at the bottom as it is at the top. I’ve been raging against the “willful ignorance” of Americans for years now. But it’s not ignorance at all. You all know what’s going on and your part in perpetuating criminality, but you continue to ignore it. That’s not ignorance.
People deserve the government they have. If you think you don’t, prove it!
What to expect if you are a central planner..
– http://goo.gl/Jjovz
“Ix, Do you really expect me to respond to that?”
Too ghad damned fast!!! Are you bloody reading this shit *ALIVE*!!!
Hahaha, too bad ,so (soooo) sad…
Hui Han Manchu
Mongolian-Tibetan
Naxi Kazakh Tujia Pumi Zhuang
Buyi Jino Wa ; De’ang Dong
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Dai Yugu Bai Tu Jingpo
Blang ethnic Uzbeks Tartar Gate ; Aquarium
Yao Li Dulong
; Korean Hani
Bonan Oroqen Hezhen family Lhoba Gaoshan
Dongxiang Salar ethnic Russian Xibe Achang
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Qiang Daur Uygur and Yi Lisu
Gelao Jing Mao difficult family Tajik Nu
Shes Kirgiz Lahu Mulam Ewenki
Miao
oftwominds-Charles Hugh Smith:
Self-Interest and the Pathology of Power: the Corruption of America Part 2
– http://goo.gl/9zV7x
“Point is that people will hold onto anything they know for fear of the unknown. It’s not simply a matter of accepting all the bad as if nothing is wrong. It’s a question of pure fear–what if we let the banks fail? What becomes of all of us?” -LB
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An added dangerous complication is that people not only hold on to “what they know”, they hold on to what they THINK they know. It’s very evident on this blog. If reality should intrude past the blinders of rabid ideology, it’s immediately labeled as something “bad” or driven by some evil ideology. (Predictably, one that is the [supposed] antithesis of the one held by the “Pure One”.)
In a sort of fatalistic way, I don’t find this much of a big deal in the grand grinding of the cosmic mills. A lot of “folks” are going to expire in a state of bewilderment that their sprawling vision wasn’t enthusiastically supported by “all thinking persons”, or by the gods that they’ve slavishly sacrificed their grubby humanity (integrated animal-nature) to.
Does this apply to me as well? Sure, but contrary to what E. had said about the uselessness of travel, it allows you to see more than a few ways of organizing a society. (BTW, there is a huge difference between tourism and travel, especially when you factor in the amount of $$$$$$ that can buy luxury, isolating you FROM the society you happen to be in the midst of.)
I’m more adaptable, and certainly not as prone to panic than most of the hide-bound I see about me whose big excursion “out of the country” is treating themselves to a resort vay-cay in Hawaii.
That, and patience, allow me to be more free of the prison of fear and hubris than those shackled to the status quo of the MIC.
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“There’s always a tipping point when a system goes rogue, but what it is will most likely be when the energy issues collide with the inevitable bubble-ishish bursts again. Fear will be the driving force.” -LB
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I believe this too. It’s the vacuum into which the Authoritarians will insert themselves to lead the deluded, stupid and fearful into their world of suicidal mightmare. Their only dilemma when it all shakes out is that they’ve exposed themselves and their agenda. That’s when things get really “interesting”. We’ll have to ponder whether the human race will be a viable concept after the coming iteration of bloody-minded megalomaniacs.
“mightmare”?? lol That’s a really weird slip…
Might make night?? ;o)
Good post and good advice.
Cc: Vlad as well
Buck,
Just as I mentioned to you couple of blogs ago: “there is no shortage of art “opinions” in this world.
Reading Thinker’s post and how he got it all upside down gave me a chuckle. Sure enough, a few scrolls down, your right-on-the money reply :).
LB said:
I think the social value system of the moment probably calls for well traveled-well heeled individuals looking for sophisticated same.
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Actually, LB, at the risk of sweeping with TOO broad a brush, a majority of the women want a GUY to come along and provide a “well-traveled, well-heeled” lifestyle. Yes, there is a sizable minority of women on these dating sites whom I would characterize as “rapaciously ambitious” and they come across as the biggest bores of all. But the self-promotion on these sites is just horrible.
I’ve corresponded with a few decent souls but, on the whole, these sites expose all of the greed, vanity, self-promotion, and cheesy wealth-clamoring that Jim writes about every month.
E.
You said it, lbendet, and so did Thomas Jefferson-
“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”
However, Tom went on to say,
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security”.
As for the ruling class, I find it interesting that some of them are starting to feel some shame. Apparently, at Davos, there are conversations about the inequality we are living under, and how, just maybe, it just be righted a little.
Meantime, back in the working class, we can see on this blog that many of the most oppressed are arming themselves – not to kill their oppressors, but to kill those below them on the economic scale.
Monday, after my radio show, the next volunteer didn’t show up, so I filled in the next two hours with one CD (with 18 songs on it), talking in between to fill up the time.
I played Johnny Cash’s Folsom Prison Blues and then ranted about the prison-industrial complex, the millions of people unjustly imprisoned, the ridiculousness of the drug law, the complete impunity of the 1%, etc.
The next volunteer showed up, and while we played another song he told me that he agreed that there shouldn’t be so many people in prison, and that his wife, who has cancer, should be able to smoke marijuana. OK, we’re on the same page there. Then he says, why should we spend $50,000/year on prisoners when people don’t have food or housing? OK. THEN he says, we should just fry people and spend the money on other things. WHAT???
Then I, of course, told him that I disagreed, and he said that if people have been convicted of murder then they should be killed. Then I said that many people were convicted of murder that were later found to be innocent. Then he said, well, like Charles Manson. Then I said that Charles Manson wasn’t convicted of murder, or even charged with murder. Anyway, it went on from there.
Ironically, Democracy Now had a segment that day about 3 guys who spent 18 years in prison, most of it in solitary confinement, for murders that they are now proved not to have done.
Our radio station plays DN at 6pm, so I hope he listened.
My point is that, although I usually have more affinity for the oppressed, sometimes I have to hope that our ruling overlords have more principles than some of us on the bottom.
Since I am logged.
I noticed quite interesting back and fourth redneck vs educated professional line of posts. Both have merit: There is no question that there are intelligent manual workers, in my early career they saved not once my educated ass, as well as there is bunch of white collars who are not afraid of power tools, again, I am one of them.
My personal dilemma is of different nature.
Blue collar workers, in general, tend to be more street smart. There is a lot: “Are you shitting me?” attitude toward any uncharted relationship. On other hand there is a lot of naiveté among white collars in ordinary daily life, ie. classic “spaced out” scientist, engineer or artist wrapped in his world, “funny” professor…
Now, when it comes to political life first group is easily led by Power elite, which with almost comical tricks make them to vote against their own interests. They would spot a shill on the street in a second, but sleazebag politician has a lifelong free pas with them?
When you see a Vietnam veteran on numerous on and off freeway ramps, mentally screwed, poor and not cared for after he’s not needed any more really means that whoever is sending you to fight their battles is not really thinking of you highly.
To die for the country is one and honorable thing to do but to die for the sleazy corporation which has an eye on “enemy’s” goodies is totally different. And, yes, CEO’s children in the mean time are in Harvard studying how to screw rest of us including veterans who returned home alive… Mostly, blue collars tend not to see that.
You ain’t gettin’ it. There’s intelligence that cannot be measured on IQ tests.
Yet the people deemed “intelligent” – especially by the liberal intelligentsia, no fuck it, never mind the ideological labels, the intelligentsia of whatever political stripe – are people with only certain facets of “intelligence”. As Vladdie so astutely noted there are measures of intelligence that IQ tests don’t capture, the people that possess these types of intelligence are often misfits in the classroom, they don’t read well, mathematics is not their shtik. And they are looked down on, they are sneered at as “rednecks” because they come home every night grimy and sweaty.
The ability to operate a backhoe and back up a large vehicle, make no mistake, takes intelligence, the type that the perfumados have no idea about. Why? They’ve never done it, it’s beneath their station. Heaven forfend that they get some dirt under their nails.
“So, next time you are talking to an oil rig worker, ask him or her what kind of degrees they have, Mr. Oh So Superior Hisself.” – DJ
So you and Bustin are inventing out of thin air a class of degreed philosopher butchers. Pathetic and delusional. Apparently the only intelligent people that you two balloon-heads can conceive of are those on campus. Morons.
One thing that is very clear is that you lack the kind of intelligence measured on language IQ tests, since you persist in asserting your prejudices, even when corrected by others.
Why don’t you go out and drive around on a forklift, instead of coming onto this blog, which is totally language oriented?
Don’t you see the incongruity of insulting people who like to read and write, as evidenced by the fact that they spend all day reading blogs?
It doesn’t take a master’s in philosophy (like one of my carpenters had) to see that you are out of place.
they are looked down on, they are sneered at as “rednecks” because they come home every night grimy and sweaty
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Rhino,
How much intelligence does it take to know that you’re getting fucked?
I finally read the CHS you referenced.
Did you hear that somehow the Obama administration forced the hold-out state attorney generals to cave in on the robo-signing crimes?
The victims of the crimes, i.e., the people who were illegally thrown out of their homes, will get an average of $1,800 in compensation, while the criminals walk and keep their billions of ill-gotten gains.
Don’t you wonder sometimes just how they force principled people to their will? Threats? Blackmail? Bribes?
Something made Eric Schneiderman and Kamala Harris cave.
Why don’t you go out and drive around on a forklift, instead of coming onto this blog, which is totally language oriented? – WL
Been there done that. Why don’t you? You might learn something. I’ve had the privilege of working and living on both sides of the blue collar/white collar divide. I know through experience of what I speak. And I get smokin mad when I hear the high falutin act superior and talk shit. They’re talking shit about me and people like me,they’re talking shit about my dad and granddad and the people I grew up with. And it’s pretty obvious to me these tall foreheads don’t know shit. Like so many “educated” balloon heads they only think they do. They sit in an echo chamber and repeat what they’ve heard in this echo chamber as if it’s reality which it seldom is.
Speaking of prejudices I see you persisting in asserting yours about people and things you have no idea about.
“Why don’t you go out and drive around on a forklift, instead of coming onto this blog, which is totally language oriented?”
Again, blow me.
Atta boy, bravo, well said.
http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2011/08/25/why-iceland-shold-be-in-the-news-but-is-not/
“As one European country after another fails or risks failing, imperiling the Euro, with repercussions for the entire world, the last thing the powers that be want is for Iceland to become an example. Here’s why….
In 2003 Iceland’s debt was equal to 200 times its GNP, but in 2007, it was 900 percent. The 2008 world financial crisis was the coup de grace. The three main Icelandic banks, Landbanki, Kapthing and Glitnir, went belly up and were nationalized, while the Kroner lost 85% of its value with respect to the Euro. At the end of the year Iceland declared bankruptcy.
Contrary to what could be expected, the crisis resulted in Icelanders recovering their sovereign rights, through a process of direct participatory democracy that eventually led to a new Constitution. But only after much pain.”
Both the Greeks and the Italians are realizing that the solution to the crisis is bankruptcy, not “austerity”. When the people understand that it was the nature of the Babylonian system itself that has brought all nations into financial slavery to the few, they will revolt. Bankruptcy is really a biblical Jubilee in many ways.
This system was designed by the few to gain power over the many. Their weakness is in the fact that they ASSsumed that they could retain power by military or legal force–that the military or police would enforce the enslavement of the people. That will not happen when its all said and done. They have overplayed their hand. No one wants them as world rulers.
“Don’t you see the incongruity of insulting people who like to read and write, as evidenced by the fact that they spend all day reading blogs?”
Bad companions [ blogs ? ] corrupt good morals.
”He who dictates and formulates the words and phrases we use, he who is master of the press and radio, is master of the mind. Repeat mechanically your assumptions and suggestions, diminish the opportunity for communicating dissent and opposition. This is the formula for political conditioning of the masses.” -Joost Meerloo
“If we understand the mechanisms and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing it… In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons … who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.” – Edward Bernays
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” – Joseph Goebbels
“We are not ensnared or enslaved by guns and clubs – we are ensnared by words. Those who don’t respect their dictionaries as much as their firearms, have little hope of being free. Those more willing to shoot than to speak out are similarly condemned.”
http://adask.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/words/#comments
ever tried one of these dating sites?
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E, I got a real kick out of your post. The link below that someone posted here a week or so ago I think would make a fantastic spoof date ad. I was in tears reading it. It kind of sums up my own sentiments. You MUST check it out.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/im-more-of-a-breast-man-and-completely-worthless-h,27152/
Seriously though, those cyber meat markets aren’t ALL bad. Mt eldest son met his wife on such a site. Individually they are two people you would wonder “does a mate exist anywhere on earth for this person?” but together: magic. They’ll be married 4 years in May and produce my first grandchild in just 7 more weeks if all goes well.
Both the Greeks and the Italians are realizing that the solution to the crisis is bankruptcy, not “austerity”. – MD
I think you’re right. IMO it isn’t even an issue anymore of whether the Italy and Greece have the fiscal capacity to pay, the point is that the national debt in fact won’t be repaid. May as well cut to the chase. These aren’t problems that tend to get better with time. The longer they fester the worse they get.
Someone made a good point on the telly: people are debating about refloating the drachma, the issue being whether it would do any good seeing as Greece doesn’t have a lot of exports. But the Greeks are also competing for tourist dollars with far lower cost jurisdictions in Europe ie Albania. So refloating the drachma and the consequent probable devaluation/revaluation might enable Greece to compete for the tourist bucks which is something thay’re having trouble doing straightjacketed as they are in the Euro.
The problem is the Greek populace doesn’t want a currency run by Greeks. They trust Greek politicians as far as they can throw them. For now they’d rather have a currency backstopped by German productive capacity even if it means hardship at home. Maybe they figure the alternative is worse. I guess we’ll see how long the sentiment lasts.
I think on balance though it’s better to have a national currency. That way there’s no excuses. They can’t blame far off bureaucrats at some central bank somewhere. They would have monetary sovereignty/control. And any blame for bad monetary policy would fall on their own.
Redoubts and underground capsules and remote/overseas enclaves lost their allure when we thought about disgruntled ex-Army Rangers, Molotov cocktails, local gangs and dry ice…
North American seekers of order and dependable victuals would be better advised to assure methodologies aimed at Societal & Commercial Coherence. Maintaining comprehensive and ubiquitous US Postal Service is part of the solution set.
Really important is understanding of the whys and wherefores of the July 1838 Act of US Congress: ALL railroads are considered “Post Roads” in the context seen in Article I section 8 of the US Constitution. The Congress of today believes in pavements not railways, apparently without clue as to the ramifications of ever more difficult problems maintaining rubber tire transport.
If the 1911 book by Frank J. Cannon (first US Senator from Utah) “UNDER THE PROPHET IN UTAH” is any indication of current modus operendi of Mr. Mitt, then we may see at least an understanding of the need for robust and balanced transport mode policy. Otherwise, what are all those Mormon farms and victuals warehouses and trucking firms and Class I railroads for?
Don’t you ever just appreciate the beautiful prose of Bustin J, simply for what it is? I know I do. The same with Vlad,and even though I don’t agree with a lot of what he writes, I certainly like the way he writes, the HOW as it were.
Mark Twain extolled William Dean Howells:
” In the sustained exhibition of certain great qualities–clearness, compression, verbal exactness, and unforced and seemingly unconscious felicity of phrasing–he is, in my belief, without his peer in the English-writing world.”
Reading the “high falutin” prose of William Dean Howells doesn’t make me “smoking mad”; it transports me into an aesthetic wonderland:
“In Venetian streets they give the fallen snow no rest. It is at once shoveled into the canals by hundreds of half-naked FACCHINI; and now in St. Mark’s Place the music of innumerable shovels smote upon my ear; and I saw the shivering legion of poverty as it engaged the elements in a struggle for the possession of the Piazza. But the snow continued to fall, and through the twilight of the descending flakes all this toil and encountered looked like that weary kind of effort in dreams, when the most determined industry seems only to renew the task. The lofty crest of the bell-tower was hidden in the folds of falling snow, and I could no longer see the golden angel upon its summit. But looked at across the Piazza, the beautiful outline of St. Mark’s Church was perfectly penciled in the air, and the shifting threads of the snowfall were woven into a spell of novel enchantment around the structure that always seemed to me too exquisite in its fantastic loveliness to be anything but the creation of magic. The tender snow had compassionated the beautiful edifice for all the wrongs of time, and so hid the stains and ugliness of decay that it looked as if just from the hand of the builder–or, better said, just from the brain of the architect. There was marvelous freshness in the colors of the mosaics in the great arches of the facade, and all that gracious harmony into which the temple rises, or marble scrolls and leafy exuberance airily supporting the statues of the saints, was a hundred times etherealized by the purity and whiteness of the drifting flakes. The snow lay lightly on the golden gloves that tremble like peacocks-crests above the vast domes, and plumed them with softest white; it robed the saints in ermine; and it danced over all its works, as if exulting in its beauty–beauty which filled me with subtle, selfish yearning to keep such evanescent loveliness for the little-while-longer of my whole life, and with despair to think that even the poor lifeless shadow of it could never be fairly reflected in picture or poem.”
Ferraris Falling Out of Fashion in Italy as Police Snare Tax Evaders
– http://goo.gl/o2bWT
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Interesting. Must be that the ultra rich are now vacationing in warmer climates.
Don’t you wonder sometimes just how they force principled people to their will? Threats? Blackmail? Bribes?–Wage
Must be the ‘ole black hand of death–Does it every time.
The Fracking Song
http://youtu.be/timfvNgr_Q4
My Water’s On Fire Tonight
When I was young, it wasn’t elites or professionals or rednecks, it was blue collar and white collar. I came from a blue collar family. My father worked in warehouses or drove trucks. He came home very tired every night and just wanted to relax or rest once he was there.
My upbringing was very blue collar, so I interacted mostly with blue collar individuals. I always did very well in school, so when I graduated college I entered the white collar world. I’m describing my background somewhat because I’ve been in both worlds.
What my experience has shown me is that both groups have many intelligent people, but blue collar workers didn’t have the energy to be big thinkers. Hard physical labor tends to take a lot out of one, not leaving the energy for serious intellectualism. I know some on this blog are blue collar AND are thinkers, but I believe they’re more the exception, not the rule. Being tired negatively affects one’s results on IQ tests, which is just one more reason I’m sceptical about IQ scores (as an example, a black cotton picker in the earlier parts of the 20th century couldn’t score too high on an IQ test if he or she was exhausted from backbreaking labor).
Many white collar individuals, on the other hand, DO look down on blue collars. I’ve seen them act so haughty with regard to the working class that I want to bitch slap them.
What these sub-classes don’t seem to understand emotionally is that each group needs the other. All white collars are not useless, wealthy pricks and all blue collars are not dumb beasts. The class issue seems to be inherent in human behaviour, though. I apologize for using 1950 terms, but we need to use different terminology sometimes to clarify what’s going on here.
Blue collar, white collar and now for the decimated and forgotten —- no collar.
Dogs need collars. Hard to be a proud dog without one.
What these sub-classes don’t seem to understand emotionally is that each group needs the other.
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And that they are being played against each other. Divide & Conquer.
The old Israelites just walked away from the whole thing. We need to do the same. They left the Babylonian priests/parasites to their temples, and the temples crumbled into history.
Other collars we need to be aware of are clerics collars with the Bishops’ war on women (Bishops are people who don’t even have a uterus). The war against women’s health services (Planned Parenthood) and women’s right to an abortion is now expanding to ban contraception, as if we need more mouths to feed.
Thanks for the laugh, Q. That was a hilarious article. What made it hilarious was its brutal honesty. Indeed, while you’re trying to get a little “something, something” 🙂 you’re supposed to write a bio on these sites that makes you sound like a combo of Albert Schweizer, Dr. Phil, and a rock star.
Since I’ve already corresponded with a few nice souls in just a few days, I’m sure it will yield up a few nice women. It certainly beats trying to be a lounge lizard at a bunch of pubs. Yeah, I’ve heard of a few success stories on these websites but even match.com in a commercial from a few months ago only boasted a rate of getting people partners that was something like 20% … not marriages but, basically just a companion for some unspecified period of time.
It sounded like a “true confession” but they made it sound like an incredible track record. Still, I marvel at both the self descriptions and the requirements for the man (I’m sure smart women look at the men’s descriptions and also cringe psychologically).
E.
“Other collars we need to be aware of are clerics collars with the Bishops’ war on women (Bishops are people who don’t even have a uterus). The war against women’s health services (Planned Parenthood) and women’s right to an abortion is now expanding to ban contraception, as if we need more mouths to feed. ”
Now would be a good time for you to come to the defense of the Taliban again. I mean, what could keep the birth rate down better than “honor raping” and nose snipping?
As I recall, that was “the laddie” describing his personal preferences to da woild and eva’body in it!
(A stroke of genius that likely snared him some fahn wimmenz with refined sexual sensibilities. ;o)
Again, blow me.
Rhino replied to comment from xhalor | February 9, 2012 1:25 PM | Reply
Atta boy, bravo, well said.
Rhino and xhalor, flaunting their intellectual prowess.
Heh, heh.
The Catholic Taliban, the Islamic Taliban, both are disrespecting women’s rights. I am not calling for the death of Catholic Bishops, nor am I calling for the death of Taliban. I am criticizing both. May be a difficult concept for you: something can be opposed without the use of violence.
You have ZERO credibility. And, you’re a woman trying to sound like a man through writing.
Or, we can look at Elliot Spitzer and that IMF guy for alternative take-outs.
Duuuuuude! That was like… like waaaay fuckin’ kewl, like STONED kewl, ya know? Like really fuckin’ REAL… right? Kooohhhl, dude. I could write that, I would just have to, like, toke UP summore, like… ya know?
(Signed, the most erudite guy in the room.}_
Looks like Vlad’s people have taken over in Libya.
http://www.popdecay.com/2012/02/09/black-libyans-targeted-for-extermination-by-militia/10103
Why, asoka, you have such low credibility that you sound like a woman. The ultimate insult from an idiot.
I understand the concept that you expressed.
I have as much credibility as you or anyone else, given that we are on an anonymous blog where credentials cannot be checked.
Something can be divined about credibility from the quality of one’s comments and whether one avoids name calling and insult.
As you know, one of the key values of the Green Party is nonviolence.
Others here on CFN confuse pacifism with passivity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zANvYB93u2g
Duuuuuude! That was like… like waaaay fuckin’ kewl, like STONED kewl, ya know? Like really fuckin’ REAL… right? Kooohhhl, dude. I could write that, I would just have to, like, toke UP summore, like… ya know?
(Signed, the most erudite guy in the room.}_
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Did you like it? 🙂
Bill,
Your posts the last couple of weeks have been truly outstanding. The honesty, integrity, insight – great stuff!
Mumia is a Monster I’m sure you’ll admit. We don’t have to fry him but we certainly shouldn’t let him out. Just let him rot and suffer.
Tripp (if you’re still about) and P2C,
Looks like you’re getting yourselves a brand new Nuclear Power Plant down there in Georgia!
That should keep the lights burning awhile longer.
–WSP7
Right!
Now we can see what the “regime change” wonderfulness has brought to yet another bassackwards country that needed our benevolent help and direction!
I weep with joy and pride at the single-minded pursuit of freedom [from life] for all.
Hey Buck, Oz is a poet and musician, not an academic.
–WSP7
“Why, asoka, you have such low credibility that you sound like a woman. The ultimate insult from an idiot.”
Curious. What makes you think that was an insult? I really do believe that digital persona ASOKA is, in fact, a three toed sloth. Rather, a female three toed sloth.
I was using the skeleton as a symbol of the deeper nature of the human being. But even at the level of physical actuality there are differences between the races. A physical Anthropologist of the old school could tell you the race just by looking at the skeleton or skull.
It all comes down to the genetic code – which determines brain size, structure and hormonal levels. The races differ in all of these and therefore their behavior differs.
People like you and Buck just have trouble with the infinite diversity of life and want to level it all out.
Wrong, Vlad. The homicide rates are shocking, and should be condemned, but they are not at genocide level, or even close.
Vlad, if you are talking about murder rates then I’m sure you won’t forget to condemn black-on-black violence in the townships.
White farmers have been killed – often by farmhands who are driven to retaliation by criminally low wages and basic lack of proper living conditions, as well as provocation. Karma.
Chameleon
Some very good points vis a vis the class bullshit. Paul Fussel wrote some good stuff about this topic. There are many blue collar workers and small merchants who are very well educated and hold multiple degrees. By the same token, there are people like lawyers and doctors who never did any reading outside of school and can’t even hold a coherent conversation about much of anything outside of their immediate job concerns. A great book on this subject is “The Cliff Walk”, a book by an unemployed creative writing teacher from Colgate who foolishly left the Univ. of Maine for the more prestigious private liberal arts school then naturally got let go for not being politically correct enough! So he went into a giant purple funk for a year before entering the carpentry trade. The downfall to being too white collar is that many such people are good conversationalists and little else. If they get cut loose by the corporate, university or government bureaucracies what can they do?
As a barber if someone gets too patronizing I just ask them where they went to college. Nine out of ten times when I tell them where I graduated from they realize instantly that they couldn’t even have been admitted to where I went. And where I went wasn’t really all that great, which shows what most people have on the ball. My alma mater was a jeopardy answer last night: which two schools, one in Ohio, and the other in
Florida, have the same name? Answer: what is Miami. Although we did produce the most smoking hot U.S. Senator today: Maria Cantwell. Also one of only four schools in the country to produce both a U.S. president and the winning quarterback in the super bowl. Our quarterback should be a convicted rapist and Benjamin Harrison was one of the crappier presidents. Being too well read is actually a disadvantage as a barber. Nobody wants a barber who’s smarter than they are. It took me years to learn to keep my fucking mouth shut while cutting hair! At least we had fun partying back in the early to mid ‘seventies. But my buddies from Kent State can shut me up simply by pointing out that Joe Walsh went to Kent. You can put a James Gang album on after a Beatles album and I swear that the James Gang was better.
Not sure how I’m supposed to take your comment. Ozone seems plenty smart to me at any rate. As far as my response I was just spoofing him. Have you ever complimented a woman over a well-cooked meal, heaping praise after praise upon their efforts and then in the immediate aftermath of this praise they turn to you and ask: “Does it taste good?”
Yes the working class intellectual is a cliche of Marxism. There are a few and there used to be more I think. But physical exhaustion does dim the mind. Love the way you try to explain away Black difference by talking about tired workers though. Black kids have enormous amounts of energy and do not work or do homework – yet they test very low academically and/or on IQ tests which don’t rely on actual knowledge (quite possible, you all are acting as if Psychometricians don’t understand controls and have never thought of any of these objections). One such pure conceptual test in the Ravens Matrice Progression which is just pictures in sequence – choose the next logical one to continue the story.
Also in terms of word problems in logic and math, they have tried using inner city objects and terms – an old objection. The Black kids still score far lower than Whites. Whites score better on the Black tests than Blacks do.
127th Upper Class Twit of the Year Competition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSqkdcT25ss
Why hasn’t there been a nuclear power plant licensed in the USA in 34 years?
It’s extremely expensive. No private insurer will insure them. Nuclear power plants can’t happen without taxpayer subsidies.
Republicans say government is too big. Republicans say government is broke. But then they say, let’s give the utilities money for power plants.
$8.3 BILLION taxpayer subsidy in loan guarantees, thereby warping the marketplace. I hope Ron Paul condemns this. The marketplace already condemned power plants. Nobody will build unless there is zero risk … government guarantees. Socialism for the rich.
And if there is a nuclear power plant accident in Georgia, what happens? Catastrophic disaster and insurance claims that last as long as contamination. The private insurers know this and won’t come close. So big government is the answer.
If the Georgia Republicans really believed their own economic talking points about a free and functioning marketplace, no nuclear power plants would be ever be built. The Democrats and Obama should also be ashamed for supporting these nuclear power plants in Georgia.
Only the Green Party has it right: No Nukes!
Good luck, Procon and Tripp.
Rattlesnake.
You betcha! Liked it a big bunch, thanks!
Just for shits and giggles, here’s some through-the-looking-glass conjecture:
http://www.truthout.org/billionaires-brokered-convention/1328809810
(Although I see it as more likely Jebby the Greater would be the wizzz-er-d behind the curtain. “Don’t mind the yellow puddle; on with the show!”)
Truth? …or dare, for the GOP?
And you don’t think that by murdering Whites Blacks aren’t laying up a terrible karma for themselves? Blacks have spat in our face both here and in Africa and will have to pay. We may get to be the instrument of His Retribution. We can only hope so.
Of course. And Blacks killing Blacks is also terrible karma.
You are against Blacks killing Blacks, aren’t you?
ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZ…..huh? what, did I miss anything? Nope? nothing new here, same old, same old thing…. Asoka – Vlad, et al…
Just fell asleep at the PC again…
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Duuuuuude! That was like… like waaaay fuckin’ kewl, like STONED kewl, ya know? Like really fuckin’ REAL… right? Kooohhhl, dude. I could write that, I would just have to, like, toke UP summore, like… ya know?
(Signed, the most erudite guy in the room.}_”
C’mon, man. Don’t Bogart the fuckin’ thing…OW!
[American Peak Oil Fantasy Island]
Tattoo: “The plane! The plane!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX-pVhTZg0U
Post Peak Oil? More like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVaZrjjGU4Q
And Vlad, you definately should have been in the Beaver SS.
Sincerely,
Heywood Jablomy
Mr. Roarke: “If you just Grab-the-Money, then all of your fantasies will come true.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX-pVhTZg0U
Tarped again
Wow, just when ya thought that the tarp nonsense couldn’t be repeated, well, here we go again……The Mortgage deal is even worse than I thought.
Yes what we wouldn’t do to save those banks–no matter how many laws they break.
Hey I know, laws were meant to be broken…silly me.
I heard on The Young Turks and then just had to look this up: I found this on :
http://econintersect.com/b2evolution/blog1.php
[A mortgage fraud settlement deal has been reached between the Attorney generals of 49 states, the U.S. government and five large banks
involved in about 60% of U.S. mortgages. The deal does not involve the other two large mortgage banks, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which are owned by the federal government. The deal involves at least $26 billion and may ultimately increase to as much as $40 billion according to the Financial Times. However, only a small part of the settlement (about $5 billion) is actually hard money for the banks. The rest amounts to money that will ultimately be paid for by taxpayers, pension funds and investors. The deal has produced both caution and outright criticism from critics, which will be discussed later in this article.]
They brought alot of Babylonian Occultism back with them though. The Pharisee Sect is not the Judaism of Moses or King David.
Just as much as you are against Whites killing Whites!
Aw, shucks! But thank you.
Regarding the new nuclear power plants in Georgia-
WSP, this hit the national news today because the Nuclear Regulatory Commission issued the operating license for these two new nuclear plants – today.
But the deal has been in the works for years, and Georgia Power/Southern Company has already spent billions of dollars on site preparation work.
One good thing is that these two new reactors are being located at Plant Vogtle, which piece of real estate is already home to two of the four nuclear reactors presently located in Georgia.* So, efficiency is increased and risks are reduced because Vogtle had the extra acreage for two more reactors.
And, it’s also a good thing that these plants are located in geologically stable rural south Georgia, miles from anywhere, AND close to the Savannah River Plant – a sprawling Federal nuclear facility with some big environmental issues – that dates back to the early days of the Cold War.
Georgia has problems, as regards power generation. Most of our power comes from coal, brought in from other states by rail. The overall climate of Georgia is hot and humid, with little potential for wind power – and less solar potential than many other States.
Georgia is already too overpopulated to be self-sustaining in agriculture or in power generation – without plentiful fossil fuel, coal imports, and food imports.
Without reliable and plentiful electricity, millions of folks in Atlanta would be in an untenable situation – very quickly and very catastrophically.
Thus, GPC/SO argued successfully that these two new nuke plants were an essential NEED. And they are correct – since the population of Georgia continues to grow massively – due to LEGALLY imposed Federal immigration policies.
It’s funny? how many of the Green Party nuke haters are simultaneously in favor of unlimited population growth due to immigration.
These two policies are logically incompatible, going forward for a long enough period of time.
Why did I just KNOW you’d reply to my post, Vlad?
Did you ever consider that taking drugs affects the foetus? Or because of economic pressures, many black families aren’t happy and that familial strife might affect how well a child performs on an IQ test day? Have they done studies comparing multi IQ scores of the same child on different days when their emotional state is different (I’m really seriously asking you this because you seem to have studied about IQ much more than I have)? Haven’t studies shown the negative emotional effect on children of racial intolerance?
My primary thesis is that IQ tests are basically bullshit, even if they are accepted by psychology
professionals, because intelligence is so very difficult to understand, except at both extremes of the range of intellectual capacity.
shut up
*more nuclear trivia
There was an operating nuclear reactor located at Georgia Tech, in downtown Atlanta, until it was decommissioned and moved in 1999.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neely_Nuclear_Research_Center
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Also, just off the coast of Georgia, near Savannah, there is a “lost” hydrogen bomb, weighing 7600 pounds and with a functional plutonium trigger – still out there, somewhere under the silt – waiting to be snagged by a shrimp boat, a ships anchor, or a sophisticated group of international terrorists – or simply waiting for the natural processes of corrosion to release its radioactive contents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Tybee_Island_mid-air_collision
Truth is stranger than fiction, sometimes.
“involved in about 60% of U.S. mortgages.” Give me a mutha-FXin’ kiss, baybee!!!
1.97% 10 year rate – think it will drop to 1.82% ***AS USUAL***?!… The Euro seems to be going up somehow, lately.
Want to see if I’m fully erect? YES? NO?!? YOU WON’T RESPOND?!? Lulz!!!
I looked up what that bomb looks like.
Looks just like the one Slim Pickens rode to glory in Dr. Strangelove.
Hee-Haw
Black Commentator Roland Martin suspended from CNN for making anti-gay tweets. As I pointed out before, Blacks or at least Black Men, have been demoted in the Grievance Hierarchy in favor of Gays. Very interesting. Could they fall even lower? Why not? Of course, White Men are slated to remain at the bottom – and yes, White Men (and Jews) are at the top and that’s exactly where they want other Whites.
Well I’m sure that being upset might interfere with test taking. But not being upset wont make a dummy smart. And your innuendo to the effect that Whites are making Blacks dumb by their “racism” is outrageous Cant.
Why don’t you read “The Bell Curve”? It’s written for the layman and if you are open minded you will be convinced about the reality of IQ and its relation to race. It also suggests what this knowledge means and what should be done with it. Murray and Hernstein are humanists and you might be surprised at their suggestions: mostly negative, do nothing and let anyone find their own level irregardless of color. Now I could live with that but Blacks, Jews, and Liberals cannot. In other words, it’s essentially feasible, but not politically given the way America has become.
Depends if the servant enjoys doing the evil will of his Master – or the good.
In any case, I hope you’re not coveting your neighbor’s ass or his maidservant’s ass.
Vlad, that wasn’t innuendo. I thought I was being clear. Look, I grew up in a dysfunctional family, and I got into fights because I was Jewish, and I know it affected my performance for years, until I became mature. One thing I’ve learned over those years is that how I emotionally react to situations in life is pretty typical of any human being. Any kind of prejudicial behavior towards children HAS to affect them. But, again, I’m not blaming any group for anything; I’m just stating that IQ is not that good an indicator of intelligence, and that intelligence is hard to measure. Hell, I don’t even know what intelligence really is.
Yes, they are being played against each other, just as governments are being played against each other. The ironic thing is that TPTB, who think they are so smart, are playing a very destructive game, which in the end will bring them down, as well. We should be prepared to walk away when that happens – I know, you’ll say we should walk away now,but I’m not quite ready for that right now.
One thing I won’t do is dumb myself down to others. I don’t care if I piss them off. It has cost me many times, but I just can’t do it. But, hey, I can see where you wouldn’t want to lose customers.
I went to school at Case Tech. I would walk down Euclid Avenue past the cemetery where one US president is buried – I can’t remember for sure, but I think it was James Garfield. Funny thing, where I live now is fairly near the crypts of John Adams and John Quincy Adams and their wives, which I have visited. The crypts are in the basement of the UU church in Quincy, MA. It seems I can’t get away from dead presidents.
I’ve been listening to that LIBERAL Rachel Maddow and every night she is saying there should be more parades for veterans to thank them for fighting in our wars.
I looked up which veterans are able to receive veterans’ benefits and was surprised to find taxpayers have been paying since 1916!
VETERANS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE
Mexican Border Period: May 9, 1916, through April 5, 1917, for veterans who served in Mexico, on its borders or in adjacent waters.
World War I: April 6, 1917, through Nov. 11, 1918;
for veterans who served in Russia, April 6, 1917, through April 1, 1920;
extended through July 1, 1921, for veterans who had at least one day of service between April 6, 1917, and Nov. 11, 1918.
World War II: Dec. 7, 1941, through Dec. 31, 1946.
Korean War: June 27, 1950, through Jan. 31, 1955.
Vietnam War: Aug. 5, 1964 (Feb. 28, 1961, for veterans who served “in country” before Aug. 5, 1964), through May 7, 1975.
Gulf War: Aug. 2, 1990-
If you were in the military during any of those wars, you are eligible to receive taxpayer money/benefits/preferences (there are hundreds of benefits programs, a veritable alphabet soup of big government).
So I’m thinking maybe Rachel Maddow is right. Since the USA is a militaristic country, a good way to get big government to provide benefits to citizens (granted, a select set of citizens) is to provide all kinds of veterans benefits to them.
Rachel Maddow points out we are still technically at war in Korea, 59 years later, and we’ve had five parades for Korean veterans even though the war has not ended, so I’m thinking we should have parades every week for veterans.
I am changing my mind on this issue. Heaven knows we’ve got enough veterans and we’ve had enough wars we might be able to have a parade every day. Rachel Maddow seems to think having parades is important to the veterans, so why not?
Any relation to Boone Pickens?
SBPDL, Latest clip from worldstarhiphop…
Black on Black attack in ‘lanta.
There’s a lot I want to learn about, but IQ isn’t in my sphere of interest. I just don’t want to spend the time I’d have to put in to feel I knew a lot about the subject. So, yes, my IQ discussion is just my opinion, but it’s based on what I think is common sense plus the little I have read about it.
Please explain what Murray and Hernstein meant by letting people find their own level. Murray was castigated as prejudiced by liberals, but I never read him to ascertain whether or not the charge was true. If by letting people reach their own level, you mean let them reach their full potential, I would agree with you.
I’d guess your complaint would be that we give to Blacks help and resources out of proportion. I also agree with that. Where I disagree with you is that I think it’s not wrong to do so. Maybe it’s just assuaging white guilt, but let’s be honest, Blacks were subjected to brutal conditions in the Western Hemisphere for 400+ years. They deserve kindness and compassion. Maybe our present generation is innocent of that, but you know, the sins of the fathers… Also, I am a Jew and I want non-Jews to never forget the Holocaust (despite you, personally, not believing it happened), so given that, how in good conscience can I say to Whites (Jews and Christians alike) to overlook the suffering of Blacks by saying it wasn’t me who did all that to them? And I believe the special treatment will not have to last that much longer.
What is intelligence? The ability to understand. How is it tested? By the ability to solve problems. This in the field is called “g” or general intelligence. There are other kinds of course – traditionally these were seen as gifts. One researcher named Howard Gardner I believe refers to them as intelligences and his theory is “The Theory of Mulitple Intelligences”. Fine either way – but g is the most important and the one that creates civilizations.
Of course the spark of creativity has to be there for the new to come into existence. And that is where your doubt is justified – it can’t be tested; it is mysterious; it test is the doing of it – actually creating or discovering something.
By no means am I against mystery: I believe Consciousness can’t be resolved into chemicals. It is in and of itself. A Mystery to be sought – not explained but experienced. Of course while joined with matter in a body it is influenced by these.
Yes Blacks face alot of stress: Black kids who do well in school are teased and harassed for “acting White”. And how do you think these same little monsters treat White kids? Sending you White child to a school that has more than 20% Blacks is simply cruel.
Vlad, I am completely against Whites killing Whites. I am a pacifist. You are not.
Any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. (No Man Is An Island, John Donne, 1572-1631)
You, on the other hand, want to see Blacks killed.
In your post earlier today you were even fantasizing, showing your anger, and indicating just how much you want to see Blacks die, how much you want to be a part of that massacre, cloaking your hatred in religious terms:
I don’t think you regret the death of Blacks at all.
Do you take responsibility for the role your people played in American Slavery? When Black Professor Tony Martin mentioned the leading role of Jewish Ships and Captains (sometimes crews) he was deluged with hate even though he just mentioned it in passing. Death threats, calls all hours of the night, calls for his firing – the whole nine yards that Jews release on their enemies. He never backed down. A crushing defeat for Jewish intolerance.
The center of this was Newport, Rhode Island. They were Sephardic Jews and their synagogue is still there if you want to check it out. It’s a historical site – not sure if it’s still active. The writer who wrote “Our Crowd” about the Jewish takeover of Hollywood wrote about this too – called “The Grandees”. Jewish writer btw. So call him an anti-semite if you care to.
The weight of the past can crush the present. Jews want to destroy us with guilt while they feel not an iota for anything they’ve ever done. In fairness, neither do the Turks, Chinese, Muslims, etc. You are typical. We are the special ones who care about all the world. And as a new faculty, an emergent consciousness, it is delicate and easily perverted. Exactly what has happened. Now we hate ourselves – and you folks want to keep it that way. Look at how Whites have created posters in Duluth with guilt written all over their faces. Sickening.
Btw, not all Whites have global awareness – only the brightest. More the pity. The best of us are sick unto death and the more pedestrian are the healthy ones. How did Yeats put it? The Best lack all conviction? Our best are filled with crazy sick conviction that their own People are “the cancer of humanity” as that lovely Jewess Susan Sontag put it. Of course people assumed she was including herself in that, but we know differently. Whites have to damn their own people to feel innocent – and be seen that way by others. No such struggle for the Jews of course. They always right a priori.
Trolling Black sites? Do you comment? Sometimes Whites go on those and tell them what for.
A pacifist who takes vicarious pleasure in the death of Whites by Blacks. Calling it Karma. You are unclean.
“Some big environmental issues”???
And just how is another nuclear power plant going to help?
And what about the effect of the increase in river water temperature on the ecosystem?
And what will you think if the construction is subpar and the the reactor springs a leak… or worse? How is that going to be a “good thing” for Georgia?
And I guess it doesn’t bother you that the 8.3 BILLION dollars comes from Georgian taxpayers? You can bet tax bills, and maybe electric bills, are going to go up. The people who invest in these projects do not lose, but the people of Georgia will.
It’s all about privatizing gain, and socializing loss. At zero risk for the utilities, and 100% risk for the taxpayers of Georgia.
The LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigrants will not be the ones walking away with the big bucks. The thieves will be fine upstanding southern gentlemen … citizens.
What did Sandra Day O’Connor say – we’ll keep Affirmative Action “one more generation” Sure. It’s already considered an absolute right by them. Forget her, rather go with an ancient Irish saying, “Tomorrow never comes”.
Rhinose said, “The problem is that Rednecks think that this society is built around them. – BJ
Um no, that would be smart guys like you.
So where’s this attitude come from? ”
Goebbels. Fredrich Wilhiem Goebbels.
Obama figured that since 99% of Catholics use contraception he was safe in taking away Catholic rights. He may have miscalculated – most people are hypocrites but don’t like to be remind of it. Catholics may be hypocrites but this frontal assualt by the Left may well offend them.
Obama of all people should know about deception – even of oneself. Guess he really does believe in these things otherwise he never would have made this mistake. All those hatchet faced ladies he surrounds himself with have undone him.
Eros is stronger than Thanatos.
There will be no race war, no killing.
What there will be is what we have seen these last 50 years: people of different races falling in love with each other, marrying, and having children who are caramel, coffee, brown, etc.
In just a few years this process of miscegenation will have made whites a minority. A protected and valued minority, with rights, a minority respected for its contributions, but whites will no longer be born with privilege, will no longer be able to mistreat others with impunity as they did in the past.
It’s zero sum Bill and getting tighter all the time. Giving unearned benefits to Blacks takes away from more deserving Whites. And then, these policies were extended to Hispanics even though the whole thing was supposed to geared towards the unique exerience of Blacks. And then it was extended to all minorities – even ones from other countries! That you aren’t offended by this speaks volumes. It cannot continue and as per Stein’s Law, what cannot continue, wont.
In order to do justice to the dead shall we mistreat the living? How very strange. As Christ said, “Let the Dead bury the Dead”. Or how about the Debt? Should we pay it for the sake of the few? Or like the Icelanders did, drive the Bankers into the sea? Let them eat cake with the fishes.
In ancient Israeli Law, every fifty years all debts were cancelled. Jubilee. The present must not be sacraficed for the past. That interferes with Jewish Designs? Well too bad about them.
let anyone find their own level irregardless of color.
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Please Vlad, we’ve covered this ground before. It’s just plain old regardless. No “ir” required on the front end. Don’t force me to send a note home to your parents.
I can’t believe you fell for the right-wing attempt to make this into an Obama war on religion! It won’t work.
American Catholics support President Obama’s mandate that Catholic and other religious-owned businesses provide contraception services to their employees via their health insurance coverage.
But of course the radical religious right has hijacked the conversation in America and thrown false and insulting arguments at the issue, in an attempt to create the perception the President Obama is waging a war on religion. It won’t work, but you fell for it, Vlad.
Republicans are desperate. They can’t convince people the economy is getting worse. Obama has been stronger on defense and immigration than Bush. The Republicans decided to go back to the culture war issues of guns, gays, abortion, etc. but this time it won’t work. The country is center left, not center right.
They will be viciously persecuted. It will be hell on earth for all but the richest Whites. It must not come to pass. It will not. Not everywhere at least.
Let me explain myself: I was once a Liberal. Attitudes like your’s and Blacks like you began the process of transformation. Then I came in contact with White Nationalism and I was ready for its life giving message.
Republicans are desperate. They can’t convince people the economy is getting worse.
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Yeah, try asking the Reagan question: “are you better off now than four years ago?”
Four years ago we were told we were on the brink of a Greater Depression. We were losing 700,000 jobs a month. No wonder Republicans are desperate. They don’t have a candidate who can go up against Obama.
Then I came in contact with White Nationalism and I was ready for its life giving message.
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So life-giving you cannot publicly state:
“I am opposed to Blacks killing Blacks”
It must be very painful to be you. Just remember that old Meadowlark, Meadowlark. See if you can get some old movies and learn to laugh again. It’s the best medicine. Make some pop corn and why don’t you and your wife watch them together? It’ll be like you were kids going to your first movie!
Who do you like Abbot and Costello? The Stooges? Monty Python? Today an new anchor was interviewing a dog, its master, and the fireman who saved the dog. It was supposed to be a “feel good” piece but it went “wrong”. The anchor bent down to kiss the snarling dog and it bit her face. A real feel good piece. Now that’s humor!
Now fuck all of you critics. If I was there I would feel horrible and try to help if appropriate etc. It is the distance that allows for humor. As Stalin said, one death is a tragedy, ten thousand just a statistic. Q understands things like this.
It’s none of my business what you people do to each other. South African Whites tried to help and look where it got them. Despised, murdered, and dispossesed. Where long past the stage where you people can guilt trip us. You have sown the wind now reap the whirlwind.
And remember, I’m in favor of setting you all up in your own Nation in the South as Louis Farakahn supports. That is the solution and the only one now. And then you’ll own your own baby. I think we both know what will happen – Haiti 2.0
We’ll see. People don’t like being disrespected. And if this stands, what next? Most people believe in Freedom of Religion as per the Constitution. Like Scalia, I prefer mind “dead”.
Bill, walk away.
Learn Hebrew.
Learn your people.
Learn their culture.
Learn their land.
Chava Alberstein – Att Tel’hi Ba Sadde
[You(f) will walk in the field]
– http://goo.gl/mMr3q
“Travel, like so many things life allows us in the modern age, is mostly like Andy Warhol’s description of sex … “The biggest nothing of all time”. ”
And, conversely, Pain is the Smallest Nothing Ever that can become the Biggest Something Ever…
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[Playing Chess – White soldier hits Black soldier]
– http://goo.gl/BLvZX
Scar Jo’s scathing indictment of Santorum’s sweater vests is apt. The man is a consumate dork. Having him as President would be like having the vicious dork Anders Breivik as the Prez. Santorum wants to start a crusade against Islam too.
Luxury yachts forever the anger for rich Russians this yearly (Agencies)
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The glitzy casinos of Monte Carlo and the posh Alpine ski resorts of Courchevel and St Moritz have transformed skilled with the Russian emphasis.
Now,rich Russians are invading the open seas,0585,bartering fancy motorcars for multi-million USD yachts with a keen multiplication in the digit of high-class boats over the past annual.
Roman Abramovich, the billionaire employer of English Premier League club Chelsea,yet boasts a fleet of yachts,an of which cost by least $300 million.
Russian businessman Ruben Khokhryakov has tried to capitalize aboard the madness along building a especial three-masted sailing canoe tailor-made as his deep-pocketed compatriots.
The special draft of the ship enables it to float much higher than maximum other yachts of its class, generating a top velocity of up to 20 knots and reminding Khokhryakov to designate the boat”Running aboard Waves.”
Chris Weafer,proficient on Russia’s affair elite told Reuters that for much Russian oligarchs owning a yacht is simply a access of showing off their things to their peers.
Weafer, who namely capital strategist for investment bank Uralsib, said that yachts are this year’s must-have doll.
“But as much popular owners of these priceless toys the enjoyment namely more virtually ownership than actually catching it out on the water,” he said.
“Many of these yachts aspiration simply linger moored to jetties on the Moscow River alternatively on the side of an of the many lakes surrounding Moscow and St. Petersburg, where they want host parties rather than voyage aboard the water.”
Khokhryakov disagreed, saying his mega-yacht, with suite for 45 passengers and 12 crew members,want navigate as the Red Sea behind this daily before roving the Mediterranean afterward daily.
The yacht is equipped with jacuzzis, tanning booths as well as a big sun deck and satellite TVs,expected amenities for refinement cruises.
CHILDHOOD DREAM
British explorer Tim Severen — attending the boat’s presentation in the Polish metropolis of Gdansk — praised its uncommon chart and the technology on board.
“I’ve looked a lot of sailing ships in my life,only I must advert there is no other boat like it,” he said.
Sailing does never come cheap,however with the price for a week-long trip ranging from 3,500 to 35,000 euros ($46,960) per person.
The man back the project said it was his infancy dream to build a sailing warship that namely either distinctive and can withstand the roughest waters the open ocean can dart by it.
One entity that worries Khokhryakov and his affair partners from the United States, Britain, Germany and Israel, are the pirates in the Indian Ocean approximate the northwest coast of Africa.
“It’s true, we were planning a junket to the Indian Ocean only had to cancel it,6568,” Khokhryakov told Reuters.
Nevertheless, the businessman said he expected to tell a profit surrounded five years.
“We have solid investors and can weather any financial storms threatening universal economy from time to duration he said.
Actually, I will extend that:
The Smallest Nothing Ever Can Become the Biggest Something Ever…
The Biggest Something Ever Can Become the Smallest Nothing Ever…
The Smallest Nothing Ever Is the Biggest Something Ever…
The Biggest Something Ever Is the Smallest Nothing Ever…
What if a organic opposition arises in the U.S., and the oligarchy reacts by cloning the leaders of the opposition who they replace with the clones?
Remember the scene in the book “Catch-22” when Milo cuts a deal with the Germans to have Milo arrange to have U.S. B-24 bombers bomb his own U.S. airfield? Milo justifies his deal with the Germans on the grounds that the purpose of the war was to make the world safe for Capitalism, and since his deal with the Germans was capitalism in action, then it had to be o.k.
Beasley said;
And that is because they have a low IQ? Wow. The world is definitely a better place as a result of your brilliance. Thanks for that.
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Nowhere did I say that I didn’t like working class people because they have low IQs. Learn to read. I merely described a constellation of traits that make SNOBS not like them. A person with even high school level reading skills would actually read what I wrote as an ODE to them. Christ, some people like you come out of the woodwork and I have to explain why black isn’t white.
E.
Hi, LB!! I read another one of the self-odes written by a woman in her profile on match.com. It was the usual bullshit about what a ray of sunshine she was for the world.
I wrote back that I was a 300-pound, drunken, sociopathic, Valium-swilling couch potato. I told her that my hobby was shooting dead horses. I concluded by saying that my awesome optimism was captured in my slogan that: “It’s always darkest before … PITCH BLACK”. Earlier in the message I said that “I used to be conceited but now I am perfect”.
I figure this will either get me reported to the match.com Gestapo or she’ll want to marry me. I don’t wish either outcome. However, it’s the only way to have fun with the DUMB
earnestness of these sites.
E.
Q.,
I figure that the success of sites like match.com is due to the “Law of Large Numbers”. You sift through gigantic mounds of hay and you WILL find at least one “needle”. However, it’s a tough slog. See my post to LBendet immediately above and you’ll see parts of my post to one absolutely vain femme.
I didn’t give LB the whole thing either. I said that “I always go the wrong way. I take uppers when already manic and downers when already depressed”. I told her about my sporting prowess by declaring that my friends no longer needed a calendar to time me in the 400m dash. I said that in beer parlors I hit the board at least 50% of the time though never on the number aimed at.
The rest you can see above. Well, almost all the rest.
Enjoy!!
E.
Remember the movie “Taxi Driver” starring Robert DeNiro? DeNiro takes the female Palentine campaign volunteer worker to the porn movie. And then DeNiro falls in love with the 12 year old hooker called Iris played by Jodie Foster. Jodie Foster later went on to star as that women who gets gang raped on a pinball machine in a bar in the movie “The Accused”.
In terms of eligiblity for veteran’s benefits, meaning mostly one’s eligibility to use the VA hospital system, it is far more important that one served in the REGULAR army, navy, air force, marines, or coast guard, for a period in excess of one and one-half years, than that one served during period of war. Also, the VA evaluates everyone seeking treatment in a process known as “means testing” which determines whether or not you are needy enough to deserve free medical care. The only persons exempt from means testing are those with service connected disabilities getting pensions. Serving during time of war is more connected to eligibility to join the American Legion. Oddly enough, although I am not qualified for the American Legion I am qualified to join the VFW because I have “nuclear deterrent patrol insignia” listed on my discharge papers, which is the decoration for making a patrol aboard a fleet ballistic missile submarine. The VFW decided to recognize cold war nuclear submariners as foreign war veterans. The only organization I have actually joined though is SUBVETS. People who served in the national guard as well as many reservists never accumulated enough active duty service to qualify for the VA, even though in many cases they did an overseas deployment to a war zone. Naval reservists typically must do three years’ active duty so they tend to be eligible for benefits. There has been some talk of reserving the VA hospital system for the use of service connected disability patients exclusively. Anyone who served may apply for a disability rating however so such a designation is not only for those wounded in combat. The most commonly awarded disability rating is for hearing loss, even when it takes decades to show up or become noticeable. Typically only service connected disabled are eligible for dental and eyeglass services. This is also rationed healthcare so only one trip to drug & alcohol rehab is permitted, although multiple trips may be made to the detox. ward! And I can assure you that the VA detox. ward is delightful place for a one week getaway from the hectic outside world. But they have better drugs in the psych. ward. To quote a fellow inmate in alcohol rehab.: “I prefer the psych. ward because the drugs are so much better there.”
Procon, you make a big deal about your grandchildren and great-grandchildren, using them in your arguments.
They will curse for for leaving them with nuclear waste in Georgia.
In Europe they are decommissioning their nuclear plants because they are being replaced by megawatt alternatives like solar, wind, geothermal, etc. that will not saddle their great-grandchildren with poisonous nuclear wastes.
Think what $8.3 BILLION invested in alternative energy could do for Georgia.
Construction done by Bechtel is shoddy.
Good luck, procon with having a nuclear incident-free future for your grandchildren and great-grandchildren.
Ha, E.
I think you have a 1% chance of her answering that she loves when you talk dirty to her. Make that .00001%. But hey, ya never know.
Wage,
Last evening (around 7:30ish) I posted about the mortgage fraud settlement deal and how the lion’s share of the $25 Billion will be paid by the taxpayers pensioners and investors.
The senate also voted on a bill to end insider trading in congress. The Repugs watered it down. Don’t know the details yet.
Again multiple laws are being broken by the Neo-Brahmins and our legislative body just can’t seem to give us strong and binding new laws which also will be ignored against the practices that should be punished as criminal acts.
Yes, Martha Stewart had to pay, Leona Helmsley had to pay…see a pattern here?
And speaking to the title of this weeks’blog…
Yes the Neo-Brahmins can’t stop dreaming up new ways to spend the tax payer money.
No matter how much these guys grand-stand against spending our tax dollars they can’t quit spending our money down a black hole.
Never mind the infrastructure of the country or meeting the needs of the people to live well and work at meaningful jobs.
Paul Craig Roberts, former Reagan assist to the Treasury writes on his blog about our pending war with Iran.
Yep, we’re pulling the plug on Iraq and Afghanistan to surround Iran with 44 base camps. We broke ’em and what did we find. We can’t fix ’em….NEXT.
Roberts refers to Juan Cole, professor and historian on middle east,(Michigan University) in assessing our military build-up to our next destruction.
Gee, one has to wonder why the Neo-Brahmins don’t see fit to make sure we’re all gainfully employed to fund all their escapades and graft.
Without everyone working and paying big taxes how are they going to pay for everything they imagine?
How does applying the same law to all providers of insurance restrict the free exercise of religion?
The Constitution does not exempt religious institutions from obeying laws they don’t agree with. I seriously doubt the Supreme Court will agree with you.
The Bishops are also against the death penalty. They didn’t come down on Rick Perry.
The Bishops were also against the war in Iraq.
They didn’t come down on Santorum (or Bush).
Obama wants health reform, to provide people with health care, which includes contraception. That is not denying freedom of religion.
If men could get pregnant, birth control would be mandatory.
mornin’…i read the PCR essay, pretty much right on the money- that being the key: it seems they have (literally) bought into their own hologram, in that debt = money- and since they ve never had to pay; we have, even when money meant something more than a column of numbers, i believe the calculus is centered more around what we will let them get away with…i was thinking a little while ago about the megalith of corporatacrocy that has grown, and it seems to follow the same pattern as raising a kid: when a given behavior is cute, ie doesn t present as harmful, if one doesn t correct it, then when things are out of control if you try to apply rules the brat feels entitled to what was special treatment…with all of the usual prevarication, distractions and push-back…see what i m saying?
Oklahoma’s proposed anti-abortion Senate Bill 1433 states a fetus “at every stage of development (has) all the rights, privileges, and immunities available to other persons, citizens, and residents of this state.”
Oklahoma State Senator Constance Johnson introduced an amendment to the bill that read:
“However, any action in which a man ejaculates or otherwise deposits semen anywhere but in a woman’s vagina shall be interpreted and construed as an action against an unborn child.”
Totally
The elite re like a child who wants too much sugar and are allowed to have the whole bowlful anytime they want.
Since we know there are prices to pay for this, we know it’s not sustainable. The resulting diabetes and subsequent keytones are the condition the whole world is in thanks to us.
The big problem is not everyone knows how this thing is going to work due to political expediency.
Check out Pepe Escobar re: Iran via Damascus:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NB11Ak02.html
“Procon, you make a big deal about your grandchildren and great-grandchildren, using them in your arguments.
They will curse (you?) for for leaving them with nuclear waste in Georgia.”
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Yeah, I’m giving serious thought to discontinuing all mention of my own personal kids, grand-kids, and potential great grand-kids on CFN. Even on an anonymous website, asoka., you radiate more hateful desire for karmic retributive justice – than I would have thought possible before joining CFN, not quite two years ago, now.
You wish harm to my progeny, not because of anything I or my ancestors have actually done – but simply because of what I and my ancestors ARE – white, American, Southern, Christian, or anything else you wish to condemn.
The categories of persons deserving karmic punishment in asoka.-land is a long one, and the scores will never be settled until all of us suffer and die according to the karmic script of the forces for which asoka. pretends to speak.
Best quote of the week for CFN:
“In order to do justice to the dead shall we mistreat the living?” -vlad-
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More about nukes and GA Power in another post.
“No matter how much these guys grand-stand against spending our tax dollars they can’t quit spending our money down a black hole.
Paul Craig Roberts, former Reagan assist to the Treasury writes on his blog about our pending war with Iran.
Yep, we’re pulling the plug on Iraq and Afghanistan to surround Iran with 44 base camps. We broke ’em and what did we find. We can’t fix ’em….NEXT.
Roberts refers to Juan Cole, professor and historian on middle east,(Michigan University) in assessing our military build-up to our next destruction.” -LB
LB,
Now we’re getting down to the crux of the matter and the prime motivator of the Cult of World Domination. It’s about maintaining the denomination of the world’s most valuable energy supply in ‘Murkin dollars. Without this trade scam, the dollar becomes worthless [internationally], and vast piles of electronic “wealth” goes *POOF* in the blink of an eye. What does this do to the Madarin’s power, if they have no wealth to enforce it? Aye, there’s the rub.
So it matters not who gets killed, as long as CONTROL is maintained. It’s cheaper to buy and support satraps than it is to own and occupy the territory that the black gold lies beneath. (The destruction of the infrastructure to extract the oil is unfortunate, but if the illusory “wealth” is maintained, rebuilding can be factored into the market price. Destroying these unfortunate societies means little, as long as the petro-dollar remains dominant. (And that will INCLUDE this country and its’ taxpayin’ proles. “Useful idiots”. Plus our politicians are basically satraps to larger and wealthier powers. The circle is complete.)
Truly, the love of money is the root of [most] evil.
is that for real?! looks like something from The Onion…
i mean, forrealtho, by the same (il)logic; a woman who fails to get pregnant EVERY SINGLE TIME she menstruates is guilty of murder…and (i guess), mass murder at the point of menopause…wtftstfizzat?!
Ps. “They” would love to have us believe it’s a very, very complicated market capitalism and freedomdemocracydiplomacyterrorsuppression thang, but it’s simply whose pile of worthless scrip is backed by the energy supply. All efforts (and lives) will be thrown at this over-arching goal.
oh ferfuck’ssake, these people are insane! i don t know how to post a link, but if you go to ICH and read russ winters’ essay about the strait of hormuz, you ll see a pretty good argument against a blockade…problem is, the bastards are committed already (would that they could just be committed!!) and are going to start another battle in what i see as a decades old WWIII…when we can t stop iran from stopping the oil- and no critical analysis says we can, does anyone think “somebody” won t go nuclear? and when (ok, “if”; but c’mon!) that happens, do those same idiots really think that everybody else who has nukes is just going to peacefully sit by and see who the fall-out lands on? really? REALLY?! (thanks, seth n amy) what a foxtrot joseph (that s ‘fuck job’) !!! guess i ll spend the next month or two getting my grubby little mitts on as much fun as i can…”i didn t say ‘i love you’; i said i loved it”!
CFT,
Whoa! Just returned from reading PCR. I’d say his views pretty much mirror my own. I guess the writing on the wall is being writ in large, bold letters, if such is the case.
http://www.southerncompany.com/nuclearenergy/photos.aspx
This is probably going to slightly derange some of y’all. This series of pictures shows construction of the new reactors (#3 and #4) at plant Vogtle.
AntiSoak, picture #44 shows the proximity of the plant to the Savannah River. My understanding is that any cooling water discharged back into the river must be cooled very close to the original ambient temperature – all specified by stacks and stacks of local and Federal EPA permits, and all approved by Fish and Wildlife personnel at all levels of government.
Wind power is not viable for most of Georgia.
And biomass – I posted earlier about how quickly Georgia Power and local loggers/foresters/land owners started up a biomass program for power generation. The Fed’s shut the biomass program down even more quickly – over air pollution violations. Being hot and humid, and under the Bermuda High weather system for most of the summer – Georgia has a climate that does not favor biomass combustion, of any type.
Solar is OK, for Georgia – not nearly as good as in Nevada, or Florida, but still OK. But solar provides “intermittent” electric power. Without “baseload” power, solar is not a solution.
Right now, most of Georgia’s baseload generation is provided by coal. Coal is dirty. Coal comes to Georgia from far away States by diesel locomotive train. The Federal EPA is forcing the shutdown of several existing coal plants in Georgia for violation of air pollution guidelines.
Thus, Georgia Power turns to nuclear.
Damned if you do and damned if you don’t, in the eyes of the Greens, apparently.
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And for any of you looking for places to invest cash, Southern Company (SO), parent company of GPC is not a bad place to put it. They are a regulated utility, meaning that their cash flow is GUARANTEED by regulatory boards and customers in the various states where SO operates. The “big” Federal government – as asoka. pointed out for us – backstops SO’s risk due to nuclear operations. Right now SO pays a quarterly cash dividend that annualizes at about 5.5%.
Stocks like SO used to be called “widows and orphans” stocks. That’s not necessarily a bad thing for any investor, anymore – in today’s world.
Disclaimer – Author of this comment owns shares of SO.
Correction: South African Jews [and U2]
Re:
‘Also, I am a Jew and I want non-Jews to never forget the Holocaust’ BBill
I dont appreciate Jews still working the holocaust.
I dont see them give even 1/10,000 th as much attention to Maos Holocaust [still going on]!
Mao killed 70,000,000 and the killing continues.
Presently in LA there are all these banners on Olympic Blvd ‘Hitler letters or Diaries or somesuch’.
Still working the holocaust.
Charlie,
Here ya go:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30482.htm
Don’t say I never done nuthin’ for ya. ;o)
(I understand that you’re doing all your posting on a “thumb mechanism”, so I’m pretty amazed at your profligacy and proficiency in the first place!)
‘Martha Stewart had to pay, Leona Helmsley had to pay…’
Yes, its been noted before.
Hope you have good luck with that. Sincerely. (Because of the deadly flip-side of this technology.)
…And sorry about ALL our overpopulation problems, that are set to give us a serious whacking. Energy shortage will be the great equalizer, everywhere.
Thanks for the link. I was following the links from the article you posted and went to the Naked Capitalism link.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/02/the-top-twelve-reasons-why-you-should-hate-the-mortgage-settlement.html
By coincidence, Democracy Now had Yves Smith on to explain the article.
I’ll admit, no matter how many times I read about this stuff, I still can’t quite understand the intricacies of the financial shenanigans going on. The only thing that makes me feel better (maybe?) is that the bankers involved don’t seem to understand them either. Or at least a lot of them.
That’s why I depend on Matt Tahibbi and Greg Palast and Yves Smith to explain it all.
One of the links was a CNBC article trying to whip up class hatred as we see it on this blog. It’s just not fair that people who can’t pay their mortgages get relief while people who can pay don’t get relief.
So, already 7 million people have lost their homes, and whole neighborhoods are empty, and the bankers committed fraud and extortion, and the government conspired to support the housing bubble to make up for the collapse of the economy and of wages in America, but- we’re supposed to be mad at people who owe more than their houses are worth who may get some relief.
I think that open fascism will be fairly easy to implement in this country, because so many people are so very, very hateful to their fellow citizens.
Right now SO pays a quarterly cash dividend that annualizes at about 5.5%.
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The div yld is 4.21% as we speak.
Goebbels my ass.
“what game ?”
Precisely. If you’re watching TV you’re buying something they want you to buy, watching the commercials or nay. I don’t miss any of it to be honest.
Someone with a pro-life slant once asked me, “what if your parents had aborted you?? Wouldn’t that be awful?”
“Yeah, sure, except for the fact that I would never know about it. You twit.” Who are these people who reason this way? You only miss the show when you’re watching it.
Also on DN, they kind of explained the caving of the attorney generals.
Apparently, part of the deal is up to $100 million to each state’s attorney general. Bribery.
And there have been so many cutbacks to the New York attorney general’s office that Schneiderman felt that he couldn’t properly investigate the cases. Poverty.
And they put Schneiderman in charge of the new task force, which is supposed to do what the old ones are supposed to do, but don’t. Flattery.
Apparently, he really feels that he can make a difference in the new role. But Lanny Breur, partner of Eric Holder, who also represented the MERS corporation, is second in command.
This is like the 9-11 Commission, where Phillip Zelikow, partner of Condi Rice, was put in charge of controlling all the testimony and information, while the front people were ignorant.
Whether there were also threats, we’ll probably never know.
Thanks for checking the yield.
I’ve owned my SO for many years and don’t watch it that closely.
Interesting thing about dividend payers, especially in stable and regulated industries like SO –
Even IF, as seems likely sometimes, some event causes the whole stock market to tank by 50% or more – that means that the dividend payers relative dividend increases proportionally – which provides support for the “real?” underlying price of the stock.
I sure you know all of this, Q – I’m just offering free advice to any other thread riders who want to keep money someplace other than under their mattress or buried in the yard beneath the old oak tree.
How about this for a bumper sticker:
“On 12/22/12 can we please start taking our future seriously again?”
What do you guys think?
I’m truly amazed at your attitude toward nuclear power. Seriously? You can’t see any other way than nuclear?
Have you heard of Three Mile Island? Chernobyl? Fukishima?
I am horrified that Obama is pushing nuclear power forward, even after Fukashima. And that you can see no other way, preferring to blame any future problems on immigration.
If Georgia can’t run its infrastructure on renewable energy, then it needs to change its infrastructure. That would cost billions? So does a nuclear power plant.
And Bechtel is indeed known for its shoddy building practices and cost overruns. Ever hear of The Big Dig?
And your comment that because the power company has extra acres, any problems will be mitigated – huh? Any meltdown will happen in previously owned land, and won’t spread?
That makes no sense at all.
And asoka isn’t pointing out that your grandchildren will be radiated as karma for slavery. Once again, you are twisting things to suit your two favorite topics, immigration and no-guilt slavery.
He pointed out that your support for nuclear power may lead to your grandchildren being radiated. No slavery involved.
Thanks for the link, ozone. Everyone kept talking about it, but no one linked to it.
Obama backs down? Not really: classic use of the dialectic. Make an outrageous policy, back down in the face of fierce opposition, make a counter offer that moves the ball forward in direction you desire. So now the insurance companies have to offer free contraception directly. Not the touchdown of crushing religion but far more than a mere first down. The Leftist Envelope is well moved.
Hi Tripp.
I think that the fatalism being pushed by the Mayan thing makes it easier for our ruling overlords to screw us, because so many people believe that the world is ending, either because of the calender or because Jesus himself is coming back soon.
So why bother to change our ways?
Talking about intellectual prowess, has it ever occurred to you that you depend on the people you piss all over? You know, like fork lift drivers. How? In food depots all over the country they load the food you eat. Yeah those tattooed, undereducated dimwits. Ever seen a food wholesaler’s warehouse? Ever been in one? Ever seen the folks that work in thise places? Where do you think all that stuff in your fridge come from? You want me to connect the dots for you starting from the farmer’s field (no doubt they don’t match your high standards for intellectual acuity either)?
Never mind, you’re way too superior for the likes of me and my kind, we come about knee high to you, there’s nothing we could tell you that you don’t already know. Or think you know.
Oh, we don’t really depend on foklift drivers? oh, the food could be loaded by hand? Oh! Boy, I’m glad you’re here to tell us these things.
Ok, well I have relatives that worked in flour mills a long time ago and they loaded 100 lb sacks of flour onto trucks by hand. You know what that’s like? Ever done it? You know what that does to a man’s back and his joints?
But no doubt I’m missing something here. Please do feel free to show me up with your own intellectual prowess. No doubt you’ll leave me in awe.
Remember Einstein, America was supposed to be a Republic not a Democracy. That means there are limits to political power – be it from the People or the Potus.
Unfortunately for you, the Constitution mandates separation of church and state. The Federal Goverment cannot tell the Churches what to think or teach and has no right to make them pay for contraception for their employees. What the hell is wrong with you that you would even want such a thing. Making people pay for their things they don’t believe in is monstrous.
Don’t you ever just appreciate the beautiful prose of Bustin J, simply for what it is? I know I do. – Buck
Frankly Buck when someone raises themselves to a great height and pisses on me or pisses on the folks that raised me or that I grew up with I tend to reach for the brass knucks. Beautiful prose notwithstanding.
Pucker said:
Remember the movie “Taxi Driver” starring Robert DeNiro? DeNiro takes the female Palentine campaign volunteer worker to the porn movie. And then DeNiro falls in love with the 12 year old hooker called Iris played by Jodie Foster. Jodie Foster later went on to star as that women who gets gang raped on a pinball machine in a bar in the movie “The Accused”.
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Taxi driver was an amazing study in a man going nutty because of the inherent psychosis in urban reality. To you remember the mirror scene? “You talkin’ about me? You talkin’ about me? I’m the only one here”!
I’m not sure how you are relating it to my whimsy about the liars on these dating sites.
E.
“I am large; I contain multitudes”. — Walt Whitman
And all this time I thought this was an original line by the Theosophist who calls himself Asoka. I been duped!
Beer, bait, ammo, gasoline and buffalo wings are all still readily available. All is well!!!
–WSP7
LB said:
Ha, E.
I think you have a 1% chance of her answering that she loves when you talk dirty to her. Make that .00001%. But hey, ya never know.
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I think I agree with your probability assessments more than my own. I agree with your because there is a DUMB EARNESTNESS about these dating sites. In the particular case I mentioned, the woman claimed that she required “at least one laughing fit per week”. However, I think the odds are higher that she sees me mocking her “serious search for love” more than poking fun at myself.
Luckily, as I said in my answer to Q., these sites are so awash in “seekers” that a few needles have appeared in this gigantic haystack. It’s the “Law of Large Numbers” that keep these sites in business, not their inherent “checklist system” validity.
E.
So I broke bread with a Pentacostal preacher and his wife and son last night, but before dinner I was sitting quietly among the hubbub of the room, thumbing through a new book I had just gotten on natural plasters for earthen homes. The pastor asked me what I was reading, and I showed him, explaining that we were about to build an earthen house in the mountains of north Georgia, about how they are thick-walled and beautiful, moderate their own internal temperature, and can last over a thousand years if taken care of.
This last clause took him way out of his element. I could see that the idea that humans would be around for another thousand years to bother with my mini-castle was foreign to his thought processes. Look around, man, the signs of the end times are everywhere. The Rapture is surely at hand.
Meanwhile, back on Earth, a pathetic handful of Americans is living in a quasi-responsible way, preparing for a future that runs on a whole lot less energy. At some point can we start arresting people for being dangerously retarded? We could start with the folks watering their lawns (in February for Chrissakes!), despite the well-known fact that outlying cities were trucking water in last summer and farmers were sinking their wells another 200 feet. Then maybe we could just shut down the USDA entirely, for blocking any and all attempts by small, local food producers to deliver a superior product to discerning consumers nearby. We could axe the ATF or FDA next, whichever you guys prefer, just for no longer being relevant to the energy descent pattern emerging before us.
Do people really still give a shit about what’s going on in DC? You know, my stepdad popped my mother in the eye with his cane a few days ago, and she at least had the good sense to stop playing the game. How many black eyes does one need??
“If Georgia can’t run its infrastructure on renewable energy, then it needs to change its infrastructure.”
-wage-
Look, Wage, I can live OK without electricity.
My biggest problem would be having to walk down to the creek for water and then probably having to boil it before drinking it – especially in the summer.
Other than that, and the joys of the internet, and raising occasional hell with my favorite CFN womanfrien’ (that would be you, Wage) – anybody who comes to my house could live – hungry but OK – without electricity for years.
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Not so for the millions of people in Atlanta. Without electricity for the the pumps that bring in H2O and take away sewerage – the place would be uninhabitable in a very short period of time.
That’s the infrastructure that has to be run 24/7 with electricity. And it’s a national problem – it’s just more visible in Georgia’s case because of climate.
I’m telling you that Georgia is already overpopulated without diesel agriculture, coal electricity, and net food imports from somewhere else. Nuke power is a way to try to mitigate the problems that overpopulation are going to cause.
And that die is cast now, anyway.
And I’ve always been opposed to nuclear power. My opposition doesn’t stop GPC from moving ahead with those two reactors, though. Selling my stock won’t do it either.
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And asoka. (in a rare break from tradition for him/her/it) didn’t invoke karma to kill my progeny with nuclear waste – although he will now, probably. Thanks for the suggestion to him, Wage.
Ozone said:
LB,
Now we’re getting down to the crux of the matter and the prime motivator of the Cult of World Domination. It’s about maintaining the denomination of the world’s most valuable energy supply in ‘Murkin dollars. Without this trade scam, the dollar becomes worthless [internationally], and vast piles of electronic “wealth” goes *POOF* in the blink of an eye. What does this do to the Madarin’s power, if they have no wealth to enforce it? Aye, there’s the rub.
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The REAL “Mandarins”, the ones that live in China, are quietly buying up so much real estate on the Left Coast here that they’re taking over without a shot being fired. Palo Alto High School, for the first time in history, has Anglos as a MINORITY this year.
It won’t be long before various countries are allowed to buy rather strategic American companies because we are broke. We are proof that money-printing does not equal capital formation because the printed money is not being distributed. It goes into the banking system where it is being hoarded by banks. Said banks know how rotten their own internal finances are so they won’t even lend to other banks who they know are as crooked as they are.
I believe the dirty secret here is that the $16 Trillion heist pulled by the Fed kept insolvent banks alive i.e., we threw good money after bad. That’s why the net amount of economic activity created since 2008 is so incredibly tepid given the monstrous amount of “stimulus”. These banks should have been taken into receivership IMMEDIATELY instead of allowing these morbidly incompetent people to hoard part of the money and use the rest to speculate (thanks to Glass-Steagall removal) in the markets.
E.
“Making people pay for…things they don’t believe in is monstrous.”
Yeah, like resource wars, income tax, “health” insurance, and the city services used by those lousy tax-exempt churches…
Ibendet, I’ve been meaning to ask you: you criticize the so-called 1%, but you live right down amongst the 1% in Manhattan. I would guess you must be familiar, and maybe even friends, with some of the folks you purport to be against. I would also guess that your own income must be pretty solid in order to live in Manhattan. So how about it Ibendet; are you friendly with the 1% in person, but on an anonymous website like this, not so much?
I got to now one super wealthy family in my life. In college a classmate discovered I was a Quartermaster in the Navy. He invited me down to his home in Greenwich to check out his families’ Yacht. I won’t mention the family name — you would recognize it. His folks didn’t ‘know me from nothin’ but nevertheless were extremely gracious and welcoming to me. This is the 1% we are all supposed to envy and hate?
–WSP7
It must be very painful to be you… Now fuck all of you critics. If I was there I would feel horrible and try to help if appropriate etc. It is the distance that allows for humor. As Stalin said, one death is a tragedy, ten thousand just a statistic. Q understands things like this.
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I’ll tell you what’s painful… having a measly 112 IQ like I have ’cause I have *!!NO IDEA!!* what the F your talking about nor how it relates to MY comment about the non-word “irregardless.”
Hey Q that was a pretty informative post yesterday about Camden.
It looks like I asked the right guy!
–WSP7
I’m telling you that Georgia is already overpopulated without diesel agriculture, coal electricity, and net food imports from somewhere else. Nuke power is a way to try to mitigate the problems that overpopulation are going to cause.
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Nonsense. Wage is correct. You need to change the way you inhabit the land, to paraphrase JHK. If Cuba and Israel can manage w/o nukes, so can you.
Hey, peanut brain, I don’t piss all over working people, just you.
Got it? I think you’re an idiot, you in particular, and it’s not because of whatever work you do. It’s because I can tell from what you write that you are an idiot. Because of my superior intellectual prowess, and all. Or just because you make it so clear, that anyone could tell.
And I had a very nice patient a few weeks ago who works at WalMart. He is forced to use a pushcart to move merchandise and then to load it by hand, picking up 60 pound items and lifting them over his head.
Yes, peanut brain, I do know what happens to the backs of people who work like that.
I asked why WalMart wouldn’t let him use a forklift and he said that they said that it would mess up the floor.
So, instead, his back and abdomen are messed up.
We gave him a work excuse, but he said that his own doctor had already given him one, and the WalMart supervisor wadded it up and threw it away.
This WalMart has 237 employees, of which 200 are “part time”, meaning they work 34 hours a week. Because if they worked 35 hours, they’d be fulltime and have to have benefits. Like this guy did. Working the graveyard shift and lifting 60 pound sacks. He felt that the job was too good to give up.
Got that, peanut brain? Your food might still be loaded by hand, just like your ancestors did it.
So go to hell, peanut brain. You don’t know as much as you think you do.
Let them eat cake with the fishes.
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Vlad, if you thought this line up I say kudos! Marie Antoinette meets Luca Brasi.
P2C got a point. If we can’t support ourselves without the poisonous magic of nukes there are too many of us.
The interesting part comes when we try to decide who is superfluous.
I got a list.
No Widespread I’m not one of the 1% and you don’t have to be in order to live in NYC.
I certainly know people who have money, but they are progressive for the most part and agree with progressive ideas.
They are into fairness as am I and don’t like the pig at the trough gobbling everything in sight to the detriment of others.
People can live with money and still have a sense of decency.
Mr. T,
I hope you manage to make them visits here more often. 🙂
The interesting part comes when we try to decide who is superfluous.
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No, the interesting part comes when we try to decide WHAT is superfluous.
After your earlier rant about literary standards, I find myself quite unsatisfied after your last post. It lacked a certain…something. We eagerly await your next submission Mr. Hemingway.
The interesting part comes when we try to decide who is superfluous.
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Sieg Heil, Shecky!
I have to agree with Mika on this topic. The last thing in the world we need in Georgia is more nuke plants. If I have one public cause remaining in me it’s the dismantling of existing nuke plants in my region. They take a lot of high-tech (high energy) equipment to run safely, are mortally dangerous, and don’t yield the net energy they claim to. How can we possibly guarantee the continued safekeeping of these facilities, much less continued seismic stability in the reactor’s location, in an energy descent scenario?
No nukes!
When the patient that I was telling peabrain about was there, I started talking about WalMart and how the 4 Walton children were among the top 10 richest in the US, and how they contributed to politicians to keep themselves rich.
The wife of the patient said “I don’t know how they live with themselves, knowing how they treat their workers. I know I couldn’t”
Damn right! It takes a very special person to roll in their riches, knowing the oppression and misery that provides those riches.
Not all rich people are the same, however. There is a whole group of rich people calling for higher taxes.
But to think, as Marlin does, that because rich people were gracious to his face that they therefore deserve the vast majority of wealth in this country, while homeless people freeze to death, is pretty wrong.
It’s easy to be gracious when you have a lot. And it’s difficult when you’re hungry.
Money is just a way of keeping score. I don’t buy it but then I never had any real money. If you got more than me and mine fuck you. My people are kind, decent, generous and fair. To the tumbrils for those who are not. Many tumbrils rumble for those who think they rule. Tools.
A sense of decency? Let me eat kake. I will not be condescended to.
Real progressives with wealth are like real vegans with a jerky stash. Oliver Twist will cut your throat, steal your stash and impregnate your daughter. Good on ya, Ollie.
I am not a vegan, got some jerky stashed. Let the wealthy eat kake and die of diabetes. Die, sugar, die.
Kiss kiss, go to hell. shecky
Very childish and one-dimensional.
Some one asked me a question and I answered it.
You don’t get it. Might as well line up for the chambers. You and I are on the list. Shalom.
Integration is the time period between the first Black moving in and the last White moving out – Mike Berman. Jew?
Bill Wittle talks about the Vote Pump.
A six-minute video illustrating the intake and outlays of the Fed Govt. Discuss.
You all inspire me! I have not yet availed myself of the pleaures of match.com. But I will do so post haste! Onward and upward! To the Stars!
Have you had the pleasure of mocking and humiliating Nigerian Scam Artists?
[Vote Pump above is a link…]
nvm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u24nH03NccI
You don’t get it.
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What’s there not to get? I don’t like that list. And I don’t like people that keep such lists.
Wealthy people feel for those who are not. Mighty white of them.
Wealthy people have power. How they use it defines them. If they are not willing to sacrifice their power for justice, fuck ’em.
shecky, from the fourth dimension of love. Which might be hate, which might be love.
I am a professional pedestrian. Fuck your vehicle. Start walking, brothers and sisters. That is the condition of my love.
thankyou kindly, suh
Me, mine, other.
That is the list. It applies for all of our species. Ignore it at your peril.
What part of New York? Manhattan? You’re either 1% or part of the 99% – on welfare.
Yes, E.
You said it! I first heard about receiverships when William K. Black was on Bill Moyers around 2008. Since then I have been following Paul Craig Roberts and others who understand the biggest mistake this country has made.
Yes, I keep howling about the third stage of globalism. Those who make money the old fashioned way–creating value and credit are snatching this country up for all its value.
With the hatred of all things public, (esp.Repubs) we will see our national parks go to private and possibly foreign hands. We’ll never get that back again. Such is the way of dismantling national sovereignty.
Say goodbye to Teddy Roosevelt (Bye, Teddy).
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Wage all you really need to understand about the this grotesquery we call economics is that young math whizzes are running this thing (instead of doing something constructive like engineering) with supercomputers and when the bubble bursts lots o’ people get hurt.
Mika,
What had you been smoking before producing this delusional post of yours?
Correct me if I am wrong – but Israel has ZERO internally produced coal and natural gas, right?
It’s all imported, right? You might want to go 100% sustainable yourselves, before lecturing others about their nuke plants?
“Most of the base load electricity (in Israel) is generated using coal, though by the end of 2010, the company expects the majority (55%) of total installed generation capacity to be in the form of natural gas plants.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Electric_Corporation
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And the population density of Georgia is 170 persons/square mile. The population density of Cuba is 102 persons/square mile. In addition, Cuba is tropical, therefore has a far better year round climate for agriculture. Being tropical, Cuba has a demand for winter heating that approaches zero, unlike Georgia.
So, sure Mika, if you can arrange for 40% of Georgia’s population to die in a manner acceptable to you – and then force the survivors (mostly) out into the countryside to labor forever at a drastically reduced standard of living – – – then, Georgia would have a lifestyle and population density just like Cuba has now.
Right?
Oops –
My 3:10 post was supposed to link to this one of Mika’s.
…the longest, most devastating, pernicious and duplicitous war of them all: the so-called war on drugs…
and to respond to another thread: i ve always wondered why solar energy (passive & electric) couldn t provide more than enough power for ALL our needs, given a one-time investment in start-up infrastructure, and a modest maintenance…and then i realize, oh yeah, it could- but that would eliminate profits from the corporations and countries who are already in charge of the boondoggle as we know it…goldang military industrial complex…
“The last thing in the world we need in Georgia is more nuke plants.”
-tripp-
Tripp, I do NOT disagree with the above statement.
However, those two new reactors at Vogtle ARE going to be built out to completion unless TS goes completely through TF between now and then -which is statistically unlikely.
And, again – do you really think I’m that far off the mark concerning Georgia’s population and a likely huge die-off without electricity and diesel?
A huge die-off in Georgia would be a good start. I have family there, I know. White, black, cappuccino- send them all to Jesus. He is cool guy, would love it to fuck and gone. Start in Columbus, ok?
Correct me if I am wrong – but Israel has ZERO internally produced coal and natural gas, right?
It’s all imported, right? You might want to go 100% sustainable yourselves, before lecturing others about their nuke plants?
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Thanks to the US, Israel has to buy its energy supplies from Egypt. Israel receives its NG and oil supplies from fields in the Sinai or just off shore the Sinai in the Mediterranean. These fields would be Israeli if it wasn’t for the US.
As to the imported coal supplies, not sure who’s the supplier, probably Britain.
I’ll tell you what’s painful… having a measly 112 IQ like I have…
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OK, Q., spare us the self-deprecation. 🙂
FWIW, in public schools I tested 120, and I think that has been a sufficient intelligence quotient. I never envied the mensa crowd.
120 got me through 45 years of working (granted, in low-paying blue-collar jobs). I was able to pay federal income taxes to the big domestic government programs I love (and to the military I didn’t want to support, but I was paying your DoD salary).
Then I retired to live a life of leisure near the border, on US$1,000 a month (I’m even able to save money out of that), with a Plan B in the wings should things go way crazy in the USA. Life is good.
So, sure Mika, if you can arrange for 40% of Georgia’s population to die in a manner acceptable to you – and then force the survivors (mostly) out into the countryside to labor forever at a drastically reduced standard of living
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I’m really amazed that I even need to explain this stuff to someone who regularly reads JHK. We have the technology to heat and cool homes and provide for electricity w/o the use of coal, oil, NG, nukes. All you have to do is look at how European cities were designed and managed say 300 years ago, and you have your answer to all your nonsense “problems”.
Life is good.
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CORRECTION
Life is good, but then I never built up thousands of dollars of student loan debt.
I never went into mortgage debt for an over-sized McMansion in the suburbs.
I didn’t buy a new car every two years like some of my friends did.
I never had kids to overpopulate the planet, drain the Earth of resources, and contaminate the environment.
I never bought all the toys that my high school classmates bought: RVs, boats, motorcycles, etc.
My parents (who surely learned it in the Depression) taught me to pay cash when possible, and to “use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without” … good advice that worked.
That is why I am happy. It is a formula anyone can adopt: live simply that others may simply live.
“And, again – do you really think I’m that far off the mark concerning Georgia’s population and a likely huge die-off without electricity and diesel?”
Of course I don’t know for sure if we have more population in Georgia than the resource base can support. At current levels? Oh definitely. But just alive? Not sure. Atlanta is probably in a heap o’ trouble, as Macon already is, but there are a lot of really sparsely populated areas here that could probably support a lot more people, with meager needs. If everyone got serious about what the resource base could support, and if everyone adopted a more permacultural view, then maybe. But I do think it’s safe to say that the majority of Georgians, like the majority anywhere else in the U.S., hasn’t got a clue about what’s underway, and less of a clue about how to ride the slide. So yes, I think plenty would die off without diesel and electricity.
But then, the Boomers are Georgia’s largest demographic cohort, and are getting on up there in age, and most people are having fewer chilren these days, so it’s always my hope that the changes can come in units of generations instead of catastrophically. As rural de-electrification proceeds, I think the new crop of children will just adapt, like you say. My children, for one example, will grow up with less than a kW of off-grid electricity at their disposal. So, maybe no big deal…maybe.
Yeah Vlad,
You know all about everthing, don’t you?
I still say you’ve never met a black person or had a conversation with one.
Now on the alternative universe where you reside you imagine that in NYC you are either a millionaire, billionaire or on welfare…..
Well it may become that way in the not too distant future, but there’s still folks in the middle class who work real jobs for a living.
Yep real jobs do still exist. No there’s not enough to employ 20% of the un or under employed, but there’s still business and commerce here. There’s still a middle class.
Yes, you are right, Vlad, it is a zero sum game. It is doomed to fail. I am not against entitlement programs per se, but they can’t work the way they’re set up now. I believe in giving those who need help, regardless of race or ethnicity, assistance. However, the very word “entitlement” implies that ALL recipients of aid are owed it, and that is just not true.
American Blacks should be cut some slack here as their present culture is dysfunctional because of generations of prior bad treatment against them. This also goes for Native Americans. But giving these groups slack doesn’t mean they are owed a free ride; it means we deal with them with understanding and kindness. You will say that they wouldn’t do the same for us, which isn’t true of everyone in these groups, but no matter. You often quote the Bible. Doesn’t it say in there to “turn the other cheek”?
The entitlement system is itself dysfunctional, but it can be fixed. A constitutional amendment making balancing the budget mandatory would go a long way. How the medical industry does business needs a major overhaul – if the 9% annual increase in medical costs over the past 30 years continues a little longer, government medicare and medicaid payments will exceed the GDP – which obviously makes continuing the programs mathematically impossible.
Social Security funds must not be borrowed to use for operating budget items. Unemployment compensation should be applied for temporary unemployment, not for up to 2 years. I wouldn’t call present unemployment benefits assistance, I’d call it free income. If the government feels it is obligated to pay out these funds, why do it for nothing? There’s plenty of work for necessary public improvement projects. If one is able-bodied, one must work for the money. True assistance would be for those who are too old or sick to work.
Having something-for-nothing entitlement programs breeds resentment in the non-entitled population. For most of these, it’s not an inherent prejuded-based resentment, it’s economic-based (except for you and yours, Vlad). But even if you are prejudiced, wouldn’t you be less actively so if you weren’t feeling taken advantaged of?
As an aside, in response to another post of yours, if, indeed, some Jews were involved in the American slave trade, I would despise them – as individuals – the same as I despise their non-Jewish counterparts.
“This WalMart has 237 employees, of which 200 are “part time”, meaning they work 34 hours a week. Because if they worked 35 hours, they’d be fulltime and have to have benefits. Like this guy did. Working the graveyard shift and lifting 60 pound sacks. He felt that the job was too good to give up.”
I just talked to a couple of WalMart employees, and you’re exactly right about the hours worked per week. And this is the sunny economy that Asoka raves about.
But that’s not the worst of it. The super scum operating under the radar in the American economy are exploitative companies that deliberately misclassify employees as “sub-contractors’ in order to avoid paying workers comp, unemployment insurance, matching social security etc. Basically, it is the southern states right-to work- ethos coming to full fruition. Of course, and as you mentioned, many don’t complain because they feel lucky to have a “job”.
Fortunately, President Obama and many of the blue states have signed and enacted severe legislation seeking to curtail this abuse. But people still need to come forward and reveal these criminal enterprises.
“We have the technology to heat and cool homes and provide for electricity w/o the use of coal, oil, NG, nukes. All you have to do is look at how European cities were designed and managed say 300 years ago, and you have your answer to all your nonsense “problems”” -mika-
What was the population in Europe 300 yrs ago?
What did they burn for fuel 300 years ago?
How much land would all those trees take, now?
How many horses were in use 300 years ago?
How much pasture would those horses need now?
-sarcasm on-
Finally, Mika, how DID they generate their electricity in Europe, 300 years ago??, without “coal, oil, NG, nukes”? Solar panels, right?
‘If Cuba and Israel can manage w/o nuke’
AHHHEM, ISRAEL HAS 320 [?] NUKES.
One particular occurance related to the above. In order to be a true sub-contractor one usually needs to contract with a variety of companies and fly their own business banner. But the companies that typically misclassify employees usually have them operating under their banner and – AND – often have them sign -non-competive wavers that deny them the opportunity to ply their trade in a way that ensures a true sub-contractor business enviornment.
As I mentioned, states are starting to really crack down on these criminal companies and their abuse of sub-contractor status and it’s high time they did. And California is leading the way, along with many other blue states.
‘I still say you’ve never met a black person or had a conversation with one’
Do you really blieve the s**t you write, I dont.
“but there are a lot of really sparsely populated areas here that could probably support a lot more people, with meager needs.” -tripp-
Tripp – I’m gonna respectfully disagree, here. I read recently that the North American landmass supported ONE hunter/gatherer per square mile – on average.
My grandparents farming generation seemed to average about one family of 5-6 tenant farmers per every 40 acres. (Validation of the idea of 40 acres and a mule for every freed male slave and his family, maybe? Not sure – just conjecture.)
Water is the big limiting factor for permaculture in Georgia without electricity. If farmers aren’t on a creek or river and the rain is not falling – –
A cow takes 35 gallons of water/day. At 8 pounds/gallon – that’s 280 pounds of water to be hauled up with a windlass out of a well every day. And that’s for ONE cow. You know how much water new fruit trees and demanding vegetation need at certain times of the year also. And MAN, in the summer in Georgia, I have seen the rain just STOP, except for those very rare thunderstorms that won’t come toward you – or else that leave as much damage behind as they do rainfall.
Georgia is the 9th most populous State in the Union. When I run the numbers – best case, without electricity or diesel – I estimate 2 million as a maximum population for GA. We’re over 9 million now.
Good to have you back on the thread, by the way!
Why do you say that, Anti? Do you think Vlad speaks from experience about blacks?
Do you think there’s no middle class in Manhattan?
Do you think there are no middle class blacks who perform well in their jobs and interact with others?
Because Vlad is of the opinion that blacks perform under par in all areas.
I guess you agree.
So have it your way. You are either a millionaire and greater or you collect welfare if you live in NYC. I live here, but I don’t believe my own experience or anything I write about it.
ok
Speaking of stressful things that could lead to genuine hunger without diesel and electricity –
It’s been quite unseasonably warm around here for about the last two weeks. My best peach trees are already about 1/2 in bloom. My blueberries have some flower buds that are ready to pop open.
It’s going to be in the mid-20 degree range for the next three nights around here. That takes us back to “seasonable” weather.
No peaches for us this year –
Probably no blueberries, either.
Hey, no problem – it’s just a few extra trips to the produce section of the grocery store for us, right.
But if we really needed those peaches and blueberries to feed the family – I’d already be stressing out – for very good reason.
Hey Q that was a pretty informative post yesterday about Camden.
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Thanks Wide.
A few more tidbits I just Googled up:
. Walt Whitman was born in 1819.
. He quit school in 1830 (~age 11) and went to work for a printer. I emphasize this since so many here worry about the “enslavement” of children.
. Moved to Camden in 1873 (~age 54)
. Died in Camden in 1892 (~age 73)
Finally, Mika, how DID they generate their electricity in Europe, 300 years ago??, without “coal, oil, NG, nukes”? Solar panels, right?
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Exactly. Solar panels is exactly how they managed to do it. Without burning trees for heating fuel, or using horses for electric rail transport. Glad you managed to overcome your obtuseness.
The Jews were massacred in the Holocaust, so naturally their attention would be focused on that. Other holocausts did occur in history and the peoples affected focused on them, too. I lost 10 or 11 great aunts and uncles and an unknown number of second cousins. What am I gonna do? Just forget about it? If your uncles were exterminated, would you just forget about it?
And I like the way the Chinese numbers keep rising. Back in the ’70’s the number was supposed to be 20 million, but of course, anti-semites don’t believe that number and want to lower it. You are one cold-hearted mothafucka.
”I still say you’ve never met a black person or had a conversation with one’
Thats what you posted.
I know the reason for ‘Black Failure’ as I read
‘Bell Curve’ and I know for a fact that most Murdaas in USA are done by a part of 3% of our population.
Guess which 3%?
da Jews?
If you mean 20 mill to 70 mill I count what we learn
in an AHA moment once China opened up a decade or 2 ago.
30 ? MILLION STARVED IN THE GREAT LEAP FORWARD.
+ 20 to 40 Million Mao had killed off as counter revolutionary.
And there’s the 1 or 2 million in Tibet.
And there’s the war in Vietnam he funded.
Nepal is threatened now by Maoists, as are regions in India.
Care to comment?
‘This WalMart has 237 employees, of which 200 are “part time”, meaning they work 34 hours a week. Because if they worked 35 hours, they’d be fulltime and have to have benefits. Like this guy did. Working the graveyard shift and lifting 60 pound sacks. He felt that the job was too good to give up’
Dominoes Pizza….formerly owned by a Billionaire,
I knew someone who worked at 2, both p/t.
No health insurance, unlike DP in Europe.
Oh, and his manager [who was in his 30s I think, maybe 20s] was worth like 5 or 10 million $ from pizza.
A store in LA thats busy can sell more pizzas than
the whole DP chain in ,say, Nebraska.
I see the Immigrants at lincoln/pico in 90404 land, racing out of the strip mall driving pizzas.
Youd have to pay me to eat one!
Gee, to think I have 10 IQ points on you [I dont think I have the same IQ as I did 40 years ago actually].
I hear 200 Cali schools will start offering FREE DINDIN to the latino school children.
I left school having finished 9th grade!
but I got a GED>
Good for Walt!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHHHEM, ISRAEL HAS 320 [?] NUKES.
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Yes, I imagine that’s enough electric power to power the two synapses you have between your ears.
My handsome Scandinavian descent cousin died in Nam at 18 or 19..He had everything to live for…….Yes Im trying to forget it!!!
uh NO!
Answer = young black males.
Blacks = 13%
Black males = 7%
YBM =3%
no its not ‘always da jews’.
I agree with Vlad that ‘Black behavior is getting increasingly worse’, they are now 3? generations into ‘single mother families’.
no its not ‘always da jews’.
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It’s the black jews, dummy. Didn’t they teach you anything at Vlad’s school?!
That was a response to Vlad, not you, so I don’t know what you’re beef is with me.
But, now that we’re at it, just reading a book does not give you informed knowledge about how people function in the real world.
Statistics are one thing, esp. if someone wants them to reflect their belief. Working with people over time will inform you far more, than reading a book.
You have a chance to know how people think and react to what they need to accomplish. I can say with over 35 years of working that I have a pretty good idea that what is put forth on this blog does not describe reality.
I normally don’t bother to get into this discussion at all, but every so often I waste my time. Guess I have time to burn today, but I’ll be signing off for the evening.
“Never mind, you’re way too superior for the likes of me and my kind, we come about knee high to you, there’s nothing we could tell you that you don’t already know. Or think you know.”
Why, thank you, I’ll let you lick my kneecaps now. No biting!
Q-112
Asoka-120
me-140
😉
Now, for a nice nitecap….
BTW: Most of the time its my daughter or wife doing all the posting on here, I had kinda forgot all about it.
The young one is pretty dam smart…
Dee
Aaaauugh!! two points! two measley points! alright, but of course you realize that i have no choice but to attempt to catch you out at SOMEthing…ANYthing…! cheerio, dahlin’! #; >]
ok, in light of above post, i take back the darling…
Which proves my point that IQ as a measure of intelligence is very iffy.
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By mentioning this to me showa you didn’t forget it. And “trying” is not suceeding. Someone said that when people say they will try, they really mean they won’t do it.
Don’t over-exaggerate about 2 synapses. 🙂
What does this mean:
Of course, White Men are slated to remain at the bottom – and yes,
‘White Men (and Jews) are at the top and that’s exactly where they want other Whites.’
Aww, but thanks anyway.
Boy, most of the ‘old time’ posters are gone, the last time I looked on here, Ol’ Vlad was going by Jaego Scorcone or something, I think Wage was still there. I do kinda miss Johnie Rico & SEB, or Stephen E Billinghurst – How to make Meth. Pure poetry man.
But you know, when you move to a new place, and are starting afresh, you work like the locals do: Dawn to Dusk, 12 hour days 6 days a week. A physics degree is only useful when cutting a tree down so it doesn’t land on top of your head.
And gotta give a big Hi-5 to Tripp. Man, he is doing good.
I’m still surprised that Jimmie doesn’t moderate this thing, but he’s probably writing a book with the choicest cuts, you know what i mean. The rest of the time I bet he and his buds light up and read this crap and laugh their asses off.
I know I would….
Hasta luego, dudes….
I had a Black roomate once. A nice guy. Worked with them, trains, schools, etc. I know whereof I speak.
I said Manhattan in particular. It was slightly humorous. I know middle class people live in the Bronx and other burroughs.
Tell us some of your commuting horror stories. Can I crash on your couch if I’m ever in Jew York?
Oh sorry. Just that Whites (and Jews) are oppressing other Whites. Thus we have a hard time getting any sympathy since Whites and People who look White still rule America. But they loathe other Whites and favor all other groups before us. A bizarre and counter intuitive situation.
I’m still surprised that Jimmie doesn’t moderate this thing…
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He is allowing it to become a clusterfuck and we are making it so. Moderation would interfere with the process.
as above; so below, so to speak…? have to agree with you on this one…hey, has anybody heard, and do you believe the reports out of beijing concerning the possible assassination of lil’ kim?
You mean all this time I have been admiring Jews, but they have just been using Blacks against Whites? So, in your mind, does that mean that instead of killing Blacks, you should be killing Jews?
You are one sick puppy, Vlad.
So this globular cluster which hovers on the edge of our Milkey Way Galaxy is 10,000,000,000 years old. Our galaxy is one of 100,000,000,000 in the universe . Many of these galaxies are composed of 100,000,000,000 stars.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
Yet we debate on this blog about race and religion? Are we not small and insignificant. I am flabbergasted that the Earth man should consider him/herself so important. We are but motes in the eye of the Universe.
A,
I took the AA creed and cut out the GOD stuff . Most of the rest seems kinda true.
Easy does it
First things first
Live and let live
Think….Think…..Think
One day at a time
KISS – Keep it simple stupid
Act as if. . .
This too shall pass
It if works….don’t fix it
Stick with winners
Keep right size
To thine own self be true
Live in the NOW
Turn it over
We are only as sick as our secrets
Be part of the solution, not the problem
Willingness is the key
More will be revealed
No pain….no gain
Just for today
Pass it on
Practice an attitude of gratitude
Wherever you go, there you are
Look for similarities rather than differences
When all else fails, follow directions
What goes around, comes around
Change is a process, not an event
Sick and tired of being sick and tired
To keep it, you have to give it away
Take what you can use and leave the rest
What if
You can’t give away what you don’t have
Keep coming back
A journey of 1,000 miles begins with the first step
Serenity is not freedom from the storm, but peace amid the storm
Principles before personalities
Yet we debate on this blog about race and religion?
Not exclusively.
This week I have made public policy recommendations concerning several issues (the war in Afghanistan, crimes against humanity, veterans’ parades, women’s health care, nuclear energy, etc.).
And, as I happily do every week, I have offered practical solutions for surviving the Long Emergency.
Excellent! Thanks for sharing that RT, and thanks for taking out the God stuff, although personally I’m no longer fighting that because I think it is largely semantics.
This week I was participating in a zikr (I am large, I contain multitudes). In the middle of the ceremony the imam said to pray for the troops in Afghanistan.
I couldn’t believe that! There I was, in an Islamic zikr, being asked by an imam to pray for USA troops.
But I relaxed, realized praying for USA troops is just as valid as praying for anyone, and went with the flow.
After all, the troops were on my mind all week, what with the death of Will Stacey. So I embraced the situation, and widened my prayer to include all the families who have been devastated by deaths of troops. Ishq Allah Maboud Lillah.
La ilaha illallah Muhammadur Rasulullah.
As Salaam Aleikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.
(May the peace, mercy, and blessings of Allah be with you) … and with all those affected by war.
It’s been a good week.
Mr. Whipple….
“Mr. George Whipple is a fictional supermarket manager featured in television commercials and print advertisements that ran in the United States and Canada from 1964 to 1985 for Charmin toilet paper. In unvarying repetition, Whipple scolds customers (who were mostly women in those days) who “squeeze the Charmin,” while hypocritically entertaining such actions himself when he thinks no one will notice. The character and catchphrase were created by John Chervokas.
The very first commercial set the tone of the advertising campaign. Mr. Whipple is seen looking off-camera at a female customer, commenting that first she’s squeezing the grapefruits, then she’s squeezing the melons, and then (in a classic comic “triple”) when she gets to the Charmin, that’s the last straw, and he walks over to her and utters his famous plea “Please don’t squeeze the Charmin!” for the first time.
In the late 1970s and early 1980s, a competing grocer named Mr. Hoffmeier came along, who encouraged his customers to squeeze the Charmin, and scolded Whipple on his hypocrisy. By the late 1980s, Mr. Whipple was encouraging customers who weren’t buying Charmin to squeeze it.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Whipple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkD_4zf9Wf0&feature=related
DECLINING MORAL STANDARDS IN THE COMMUNITY
“Mr. George Whipple is a fictional supermarket manager featured in television commercials and print advertisements that ran in the United States and Canada from 1964 to 1985 for Charmin toilet paper. In unvarying repetition, Whipple scolds customers (who were mostly women in those days) who “squeeze the Charmin,” while hypocritically entertaining such actions himself when he thinks no one will notice. The character and catchphrase were created by John Chervokas.
The very first commercial set the tone of the advertising campaign. Mr. Whipple is seen looking off-camera at a female customer, commenting that first she’s squeezing the grapefruits, then she’s squeezing the melons, and then (in a classic comic “triple”) when she gets to the Charmin, that’s the last straw, and he walks over to her and utters his famous plea “Please don’t squeeze the Charmin!” for the first time.
In the late 1970s and early 1980s, a competing grocer named Mr. Hoffmeier came along, who encouraged his customers to squeeze the Charmin, and scolded Whipple on his hypocrisy. By the late 1980s, Mr. Whipple was encouraging customers who weren’t buying Charmin to squeeze it.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Whipple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkD_4zf9Wf0&feature=related
Ishq Allah Maboud Lilah
(God is Love, Lover, Beloved)
http://youtu.be/4Y95ok-ZXxI
(includes photos of God)
G = All
O = That
D = Is
Wake up – time to die White Man.
I’m glad it’s been a good week for you but it’s also late in the week which means it’s just about time for Vlad to make one of his inexplicable posts to KultureCritic.
And speaking of culture, the likes of Brook Benton would never have been invited to a halftime Super Bowl performance either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qYvMPaAEx8
I don’t want to kill anyone – but nor do I wish to be killed by anyone nor be sacraficed by a White Elite who wants to mollify its guilty conscience.
Sometimes I think you’re White and I’m Black and you’re oppressing me. Four legs good, two legs better?
Them belly full (but we hungry)
http://youtu.be/X1AfY825gYg
Jah Rastafari!
Vlad said:
You all inspire me! I have not yet availed myself of the pleaures of match.com. But I will do so post haste! Onward and upward! To the Stars!
Have you had the pleasure of mocking and humiliating Nigerian Scam Artists?
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I like to play with ’em for a while and feed their illusion that they’ve found a “mark”. I’ll do it right up to the moment when they want even so much as my address and then it’s sayonara, baby!!
Match.com is about $20/mo. if you sign up for 3 or more months. If nothing, it provides a rather morbid “bird’s eye view” of how supercilious most of the femmes are. You’ll be looking for the two percent that aren’t either “princesses”, dopes, or some combo of the two. And so that I don’t rankle the femmes HERE keep in mind that I feel that the good women on match.com are facing just as daunting a task finding a man there.
E.
There you go, RT. I have been pondering this very thing for almost my whole life. It warms my heart that someone else would think about this as well. We are so truly insignificant in the cosmic scheme that it is humbling to even begin to contemplate it. And that’s why humility is such a noble trait.
LB said:
Yeah Vlad,
You know all about everthing, don’t you?
I still say you’ve never met a black person or had a conversation with one.
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And that can be a very exuberant experience!! Last I was in Vegas I sat at a pai gow table with five elderly black ladies. I want to tell you, I never laughed so hard in my life. Nobody has the absurd sense of humor of inner city black women who’ve often had to raise large families single-handedly.
I’ve often regarded a sense of humor as a kind of unmeasured intelligence and these ladies had it. I stayed at that pai gow table for three hours getting bombed on vodka tonics. Once they understood that I grew up in mafia Philly we all had a few laughs about greasers.
I’ve often wished that whites in social setting were not so damned STIFF. One cartoonist (might have been Kliban?) had a cartoon called “Protestant Sex” and it was a guy still dressed with no expression in his eyes looking like a piece of stiff plywood on top of his expressionless, still-dressed “mate”. It didn’t even need a caption.
E.
i (highly) reccommend trying psilicybin, in the country, at night, with your girl or significant other…i will caution that if y all are fighting over anything, that will be accentuated; so get straight with her first- otherwise, the experience is out of this world, and not to be missed…trust me on this…and for any of you who are anti-drug, keep in mind it is written on the first page of the bible that all the plants and all of the herbs are yours to use, to benefit from, for food and medicine…and that people have been using them for spiritual purposes for tens of thousands of years- you really get a perspective on yourself and place in this realm that is hard to get any other way…it is not just about hallucination and colors, though that part can be fun remember that you will be ok, and you will be ok good travels, and shalom (hoping i used that correctly…)
I don’t do drugs, like psilicybin mushrooms. I’m always paranoid that I’ll overdose. I can’t even do marijuana. I find that when I smoke that stuff I can’t read books, and I generally find it rather exhausting.
Vlad,
Only a fool keeps insisting in delusions, so I figure you’ve got to be teasing when you say the middle class only exists in the boroughs of NYC.
Just like someone on this blog thought that blacks don’t live in Manahattan.
Well they do and they live in my building which you wouldn’t like.
Ever hear of rent stabilization and rent control? That’s what made the city accessible to people in all financial categories for many decades.
So stick a fork in it Vlad, it’s done.
Roger that CFT, I haven’t done that shit in years. Always enjoyed it, back in the day. When I got a real job and family that all came to an end. I could probably dig it again if I was back in the woods with no phones and no possibility of any kind of responsibility. Being an adult sucks.
This is the link I wanted in my post.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap120210.html
Oho!
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-insiders-are-selling-heavily-2012-02-09
To keep the Market “steady” with this going on, I would have to think that the boyz on the Plunge[r] Protection Team have been very, very busy.
Shit, it’s right there in the WSJ, haven’t the rubes and marks caught wind of it??
Comments from playas on these shenanigans?
Maybe we’re motes. But wouldn’t you say it depends on how you measure “significance”. Is it measured solely in kilograms and cubic miles or is there some other measure ie complexity? I read a couple books by a guy named Brian Greene (Fabric of the Cosmos and The Elegant Universe). Mostly easy to read for laymen and really interesting.
This setup is very strange. I’m not a scientist (is there a physicist in the house?) but one of the things I gleaned from these and other books is that everything that exists travels through space and time at a combined speed of the speed of light ie the faster you travel through space the slower you travel through time.
Also, the notion of “time” depends on the idea of “simultaneity”. The trouble is that two observers travelling relative to one another may not agree on whether events occur simultaneously or not.
To make a long story short it seems that the history of this universe we live in has been written ie what we think of past, present and future already exists. Greene gave the example of a being living on a planet 10 billion light years away (at least that’s how I remember this account- it’s been about 5 years since I read the books). You and this being may agree right now that it is Feb 11, 2012 in your neck of the woods but if that being gets up and walks away from you at a speed of 10 mph to him your neck of the woods exists at say Feb 11, 1912. And if he walks in the opposite direction your neck of the woods exists at say Feb 12, 2112. So depending on his direction and speed of movement relative to you he will perceive different “slices” of events in the universe as comprising the “present”. Very odd.
Thanks for that post, O
Fact is the whole model of this disaster Capitalsim is to phatten something up and syphon out the gains before anyone else does.
They do it to countries and then buy up the assets for pennies on the (petro) dollar, leaving them in debt and austerity. For those in the inside track–this is a constant gift that keeps on giving. Catherine Austen Fitts has said that the depressions are going to keep appearing in different places around the world, while this process goes round and round and we are sure part of the model.
Today on Charles Hugh Smith is his title: Why Is Gasoline Consumption Tanking?
http://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html
This should give some more insight into the state of our economy and how little reserves we have to keep this thing going.
Let me also recommend
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/
for a perspective of where we might be going with respect to Iran.
You gotta love how it all fits together.
My main disagreement with Roberts is that I believe we are using Israel not the other way around. Whatever the disease is, it’s symbiotic.
In the meantime the prestitutes are cheerleading for consumption.
Great place to get a sun tan – even the arm pits….
Mean while – back on earth – a new type of “dark ages” takes shape where billions of people stare into boxes of light – ignoring the edge of their own universe as it grows closer and closer.
Reality TV – indeed.
I don’t piss all over working people, just you. – WL
Sorry, your posts betray you. They radiate contempt not just for me but for people like me.
There is a class war going on, not just an economic class war fought by the wealthy for the sake of the almighty dollar but by people like you that hold yourselves as superior to people you see as “below” you. You know, like fork lift drivers.
Got news for you. You are not superior, you and and the likes of you only think you are. What do you know? You don’t know shit, I’ll bet you’ve never slung 100 lb sacks of anything. Do you know what it’s like? Seeing someone’s wrecked joints in a hospital setting gives you no insight and it doesn’t make you Mother Teresa. Have I done it? You bet – 100 lb sacks of sugar and flour. I’ve worked as a manual laborer in a processing facility making products for a large restaurant/hotel chain. Your make believe sympathy for those you see as inferior does not fool me in the least. I’ve rubbed shoulders with people like you for far too long. To say that I’m utterly sick of listening to “socialist” know-nothings like you is a giant understatement. If I never hear another word of progressive/socialist drivel from progressives/socialists like you it’ll be too soon.
Oh boy! Linkages! ;o)
I check in with PCR regularly these days, have to get right with Mr. Smith though.
Goin’ there now. Thanks.
Rhino.
Your insane, and long, rant is nothing but comparing apples and oranges. One with Wage made write this.
For you to drive that damn forklift, somebody had to invent it in the first place!
Why I think that you would slobber lick the boots of your favor Country Star but loathe the guy who provided you with comfy seat, steering wheel and few levers to push?
In the world of apples and apples, however, inventor would at the end of the day, somehow, manage to operate that lift or rig and you would be still drooling over white paper trying to do his work!
Also he would be the one NOT to point that out! Most inventors are extremely humble people. They do not vaste time, like you, thinking who is “better” but becoming better in what they do.
scary a little? especially in light of what you ll see from PCR i was reading mr greer, and clicked the link to his post a year ago about systems analysis & tao te ching…kinda interesting, though i am not conversant with all that new-fangled stuff…to borrow a phrase from him, it would seem the insiders are poking the bear for us
One more.
Few years ago I remeber listening the LA radio station where some delivery driver was ranting, (to LA audience!),about almost “team 6” merits of his skills.
Rhino,
Your posts are starting to read like an irrational rant against intellectualism, which is somewhat puzzling because you seem like a rather intelligent person to me. And I say irrational because anti-intellectualism is one of the qualities right-wingers falsely tout when attempting to co-opt salt-of-the-earth working class voters. They do this by basically erecting a visual stereotype of the “left-wing professor looking down a long disdainful nose” at mere working people. In fact, this is one of the stock propaganda rants that Rush Limbaugh continually puts forth: ” Oh, they (left-wingers) think they are so much smarter than the rest of us.” In other words, “regular Americans”.
The truth of the matter is that in an increasingly duplicitous and diabolical world, filled with devious ideologues, the only hope working people have is those “snotty intellectuals” to unravel the evil-doings enveloping their economic,political and spiritual atmosphere like a mysterious mist in the dark of night. Moreover, and in my opinion, it’s not backbreaking labor that prevents people from engaging in intellectual pursuits; it’s the advent of television in the last fifty years or so, and before that, to a lesser degree, radio. Previous to that, many day laborers would take comfort and solace with a book. Today, it’s the remote control.
Nobody worked harder at painting than Vincent van Gogh; of that there is little debate. And yet, after spending day after day in the freezing winters and steaming summers van Gogh was, according to Kenneth Rexroth, “indisputably one of the very greatest letter writers who ever lived. You can’t get so refined that you cannot recognize his collected letters as one of the major classics of the world’s literature, another of the Hundred Best Books the man forgot to put on that list.”
http://www.vggallery.com/letters/main.htm
You don’t know anything about me. I’ve done manual labor. And I later got a degree from an elite university, did several more years academic work to get a professional certification, then did two more years course work in a particular specialty. I was in my thirties when I finished. I won’t say in what profession or line of work.
Suffice to say I’ve seen enough of the world to know that neither the fork lift driver nor the inventor of the forklift can live without the work of the other. For the allegedly “superior” (be they oh so concerned and patronizing “socialists” or greedhead right-wingers) to crap on the allegdly “inferior” belies a lack of knowledge. Or ignorance. Ignorance of what? Of the work of the other but also of the fact that they exist in a symbiotic relationship with their alleged “inferiors”. To put it in simple terms, there seems to be no idea among the supposedly “superior” that if the “inferior” stopped doing what they were doing, the allegedly “superior” would have a really short, nasty existence. They’d be fucked in other words.
Another simple example. Driving a forklift is “easy”. Right? Being an office clerk is “easy”. Right. To the person that’s never done such menial jobs, they’re “easy”.
How many times have I heard this: why does it take such and such a person so long to perform such and such a task? The allegedly “superior” person asking the question of course has never done the task, has no idea what’s involved, automatically assumes that it can be done lickety split. I got sick of having to say well why don’t YOU try doing it and see how long it takes YOU to do it, see how long it takes YOU to master it.
This has been a lifelong discussion with people that thought it was beneath their station to actually learn the nuts and bolts of how something works, to use an extreme example something like heads of surgical departments that have never done a simple appendectomy. They may have OBSERVED something being done, they may have dismissed it as being “simple” and beneath them. Had they to actually DO it they would find out otherwise.
It’s a rant against presumptuousness and arrogance of the so-called elite. And a rant for respect.
Like I said, I’ve been on both sides of the fence. And on the white collar/professional side of the fence I’ve had to work around people that gave orders without having the remotest clue as to what they were ordering or the consequences of what they are asking for.
Why? To put it simply, too many people have catapulted into positions of power and influence and authority without ever having got their hands dirty, without having started in the mailroom, working their way up the food chain and actually DOING jobs they are now directing and learning and understanding how the real world works as opposed to the highly simplified and conceptualized world inside their own minds.
IMO if so many people in power had got to know the actual world and the people that live in it, outcomes would be different and better, there wouldn’t be the patronizing, superior attitudes.
I really HATE to say it but Mao had one good idea and that was to make the urban, intellectual elite work on farms so that they get a good taste of how the vast majority live and an appreciation for where food comes from and the skill and effort required to get it. And I HATE saying it because Mao was one of history’s worst murderers. But there it is.
I saw on Yahoo that a young Russian Femme bought an apt in Manhattan for 80,000,000$, so I agree, The middle class is alive and well on the isle.
Ekaterina Rybolovleva, 22, buys $88m New York apartment
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/.
StreetEasy: Talk – BARRONS: Manhattan..
The average Manhattan apartment — counting all price levels — sells for $1.6 million
. …
Or as one of the guys from Creedence Clearwater Revival said…here at Lake Tahoe the billionaires are buying the millionaires lakefront places!!!!!
‘Ever hear of rent stabilization and rent control?’
Yes BUT what about Inflation and unsustainable levels of immigration?
Theres a great piece at ‘CITY JOURNAL’ about gangs and pit bulls in NY…Can the white middle class survive in such a world???
read it if ya like….
Scared of Pit Bulls? You’d Better Be! by Brian C. Anderson, City …
http://www.city-journal.org/html/9_2_scared_of_pit.html
Walking down 204th Street or past the gone- to-seed low-income housing abutting … In 1997, the Department of Health reported 7075 dog b
Rhino,
Thanks for the further elaboration. Actually, I agree with the vast portion of what you wrote – you almost sound like a union spokesperson!
Having said that, your opinions almost feel like condemnation of intellectual pursuits because some wear it like a snotty throne. And yet, I mentioned van Gogh because in that particular era, painters such Millet(“The Sower”) were championing the working class – as did van Gogh. When reading van Gogh’s letters, one finds mention of Zola, Hugo, Dickens,etc, like one finds mention of sports teams today.
http://www.vggallery.com/letters/296_V-T_259.pdf
When was the last time you spoke to young blacks, say 16 thru 22, on their turf, Not at a school?
See the clip at SBPDL?
Black on Black gay bashing?????
??.??.!!??.
Another thing: like you I have limited patience for debates on “race”. Is “race” something more than cosmetic? Maybe but IMO you will not get any science on this question that’s worth a damn especially if the issue at hand is comparative intellectual capacity.
And even if someone has the guts to tackle the issue and do it in an unbiased way, in a way un-tainted by ideology or politics, how do you account for the multiplicity of factors that can move such allegedly “objective” measures of intellect such as IQ up or down. I’m not a scientist but just from a common sense perspective I don’t think it can be done.
Nor do I think it should be done. Why? Because sometimes “science” has a way of being put to really shitty uses. What would be done with such knowledge? Maybe I’m too much a 20th Century man colored by the events of that time but I just don’t think we should go there.
Religion I see differently. Many sneer at it and for sure there are absurdities but on the other hand I see it as an attempt to try and get a handle on what’s outside the “fishbowl” so to speak. Maybe it can’t be done. Doesn’t mean people won’t try ie folks like the Buddha or Moses or Christ or Mohammed. Some see religion as a kind of primitive technology: this or that ritual or incantation will bring the rains. If you’re a desperate farmer or a shepherd and your survival and your family’s survival depend on some downpours maybe you’ll give the prayer a try.
AntiSoak
Nothing like pointing out the obvious headline catcher referring to the rich and famous.
Since I’m middle class and know almost nobody outside that milieu at this point, all I can say is we’re here and have been here for decades.
You can’t tell me I’m not living in Manhattan can you?
So just stop using extreme examples to make your point. 204th st. in Harlem does not describe the areas of Manhattan in which most of us live.
That’s my final comment on this absurd argument. I’m not going to waste my time on this site trying to describe reality on the ground here.
I’m also not trying to tell you that people aren’t struggling since the recession started.
Yes there are the millionaire and billionaires and the very poor, but the majority is still in the middle class. If things continue in the downward slope, that will change.
Rhino said:
“Suffice to say I’ve seen enough of the world to know that neither the fork lift driver nor the inventor of the forklift can live without the work of the other.”
Exactly my point!!!
Stop the useless rant.
However, if you are talking about line of midlleman shills that US is littered with, than I am with you.
Buck;
murals in a lot of City Halls depicit ALL working men, which we are as a 99%’ers.
Milo would have probably painted engineer walking up in the middle of the night, with sweat, thinking that he may be wrong in his calcs, if had known one.
In most of the paintings, that you are refering to, working man is shown as a proud being and not as a envious creature…
BTW
Apollo 13 story is , for me, one of most beautiful from the last century. Even more by watching SLIDERULES dangling from that aamazing team pockets. Why there is a tendency to say theat they were only “showing off”?
Thanks for the two links Buck. I read that one letter. I was impressed. I’m going to have a go at reading more.
I don’t want to crap on intellectual pursuits. But sometimes people that live the intellectual life get up my nose, they need crapping on ie they need to be brought back to reality. Experts in Shakespearean sonnets have their place. But the reality is that their own pursuits however useful or useless in a practical sense depend on the surplus produced by others.
Anyway yeah, I know what you mean about the union “spokesman” shtick and you can say “spokesman” as I’m a guy.
And I know what you mean about the right side of the spectrum. The fact is that they’re just fartboys for Wall Street. But having said that I don’t see much practical difference between them and the Dems. Once in power both suck Wall Street dick.
well said…i don t know how many times i ve had the same conversation about how long it takes to prep and tile a bathroom or kitchen- usually quietly to myself, mind you; it doesn t pay to argue too much with some ignorant home-owner! and while i never went to college, i could have if i d wanted to; and have been a voracious reader since the age of five- so i feel some affinity with so-called ‘intellectuals’…however my real loyalty has to ultimately be counted with working men- pushing pencils (i know, nowadays it s a keyboard, but still) does not qualify, IMnotsoHO, as ‘work’…
regarding religion- i like that about the fishbowl…my folks left me alone about god or buddha, and haven t felt the need for an entity in charge; but i do understand that people seem to feel better having something in control, given how easy it is to feel like an insignificant speck in a vast cosmos…my problem has always been with organized programming and obvious machinations by churches and/or cults, with ulterior motives etc…anyway, all in all, i feel i could hoist a pint with you sometime (anything from PBR to guiness) and have a good conversation…
To Buck & Rhino.
Forgive my EASL spelling and comp.
I tend to sometimes rush with post or reply.
‘I’m also not trying to tell you that people aren’t struggling since the recession started.
Yes there are the millionaire and billionaires and the very poor, but the majority is still in the middle class’
Agreed, good points BUT the 99% in Manhattan rent,
I dont think they own a much of the Island.
From what I hear a parking space can cost 30K.
Ha! Holy S! 30K parking space. OMG in what building?
Certainly not in ours!
Many people bought coops when they were lower in price, and of course many people are carrying big mortgages. So the middle class does own at least a part of the real estate in shares of buildings.
The craze to buy started in the last 1970’s so many got good insider prices.
You still really don’t understand how this works.I have no idea where you get your stats.
It’s taken about 35 years of this supply-side economics and globalism to hollow out the middle class. It looked good at first, but the illusion is gone, still many cling to the illusion.
Don’t know why you keep arguing with me about this. It’s comical. I’m laughing. Are you Vlad’s alter-ego?
Nah, I can’t take drugs like that, my mind doesn’t work that way. I stopped all drug taking in the 1970’s. My mind is so far out there that I can get very high just by laying down in the dirt looking up at the stars. Closing my eyes, deep breathing and letting my mind float free does it for me. With just my 5 senses, life is enough of a hallucination as it is. But thanks for the advice, Charlie, I appreciate it.
Using Israel? You must be Jewish too! Now I can’t sleep on your couch I guess. Like Borat, I wanted to flee to New York to get away from all these Jews. Thanks for the reality check.
My condolences on the Blacks in your building. They might be alright but what about their relatives and friends? And how many times did you come home to find a whole bunch of them sitting on the stoop? And you had to climb over them while apologizing? Let’s face it, they’re not going to move an inch if they don’t have to – conservation of energy (laziness and pride) and all.
On the first point: remember the Jews are a Nation without Borders – as Herzl, Weitzman, et al said. The Nation of Israel is in the United States in the biggest possible way. Almost no one gets elected at the National Level without Jewish money and at least tacit approval (no disapproval in other words) – because if disapproved then they would render massive amounts of money against them.
Right on, Rhino. You and me are on the same wavelength here. I have nothing against liberal/progressives, even socialists. I just don’t get along with supercilious people of any political, economic and philosophical stripe.
As usual, John Ruskin has put quite a bit of thought into this very subject:
“There is a working class–strong and happy–among both rich and poor; there is an idle class–weak, wicked, and miserable–among both rich and poor. And the worst of the misunderstandings arising between the two orders come of the unlucky fact that the wise of one class habitually contemplate the foolish of the other.”
http://www.readbookonline.net/read/19612/56164/
Life itself is the test – Blacks have created little or nothing and always have their hands out to beg or their hands closed to strike.
There is nothing wrong with the literature. You don’t want to know and therefore you wont. Just like Bill doesn’t want to know about the role of Jews in the Slave Trade.
Here in Boston, a developer I knew of bought a public garage building in the 1970’s and converted it into condo parking spaces. I don’t know what they go for now, but by the 1990’s the spaces were going for well over $100,000!
Wow, what a great statement. And so true.
The fault can be on both sides, but the upper class always bears more. The lower classes envy the upper and want to become them. They try to emulate the upper within the limits of their means. It’s a horrible thing when the upper class hates its own people – and needless to say, they have far more power than the lower class does. Ever read Alexandra’s posts? No one epitomizes this tendency more than the English – a horrible snarky mockery of millions of poor Whites. They just told Whites over there to keep working into their 70’s – it’s good for them. Meanwhile they freeze. You can’t support millions of 3rd worlders and your own elderly. So the British Elite choose the 3rd worldrs.
My father used to lay pipes for Boston Gas – the college boys on site often asked for his advice. Could he have been one of them? Not sure if he had the intellect to be a civil engineer or city planner, certainly it was too late by the time he came to America in early middle age. But he was sure good with his hands – and had whatever kind of mentality that makes for that.
You all inspire me! I have not yet availed myself of the pleaures of match.com. But I will do so post haste! Onward and upward! To the Stars!
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Vlad,
When you pull one of these women from life’s barrel of rejects, and if you restrain yourself from Jew and black-bashing and lay off the arcane eastern-religion references long enough to actually get some sort of a relationship started, you will eventually arrive at the power-play stage where there will be a test of wills. Here is how you handle that eventuality:
The method is a subset of the tried and true “hard-to-get” strategy. But it must be done with panache, not childishly. You take some article of clothing or other possession that she has strategically left behind at your place so she will always have an excuse to come back and get it at some point… preferably something that would fit in an envelope like an earring, and you return it to her by mail, not in person. You enclose it in, or with, the most innocuous plain card you can find in the Rite Aid card aisle containing no pre-printed message. And in your neatest hand you write inside “To thine own self be true.”* Do not bother signing the card as the identity of the sender is perfectly obvious.
*Note: There are endless interpretations of these words since Shakespeare wrote them (they are even among the AA words of wisdom listed by RippedThunder above) and your lady-friend will be in quite a stew consulting with her closest female confidant to determine just what the hell!? this is supposed to mean and just what the hell!!? is an appropriate response.
In my case the article was a slim plain gold ring that she’d slipped on my pinkie weeks earlier just to see if it would fit, then promptly “forgot.” I scotch taped it beneath the magic words and mailed it.
Well, we will be married 39 years this May and every night around 9:30 I ask her “would you like a cup of tea sweetie?”
Oh since you respect the Blacks so much – read “The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews” written by someone in the Nation of Islam movement. It’s all about the Jewish role in the slave trade. Even White Nationalists sometimes read it. Haven’t gotten to it yet myself but it’s supposed to be good.
‘Rhino’, let me commend you on your posts about working people here in the US. They show considerable insight and wisdom. Please don’t make yourself scarce here in the CFN.
Speaking of Vincent Van Gogh, I remember reading a volume of letters to his brother and thinking, “this guy was the second coming and we didn’t even pay attention”. The only writing I can compare to it, with that same self-effacing lyricism, is in Kerouac’s ‘Visions of Gerard” , a tribute to his dead brother. People know of Van Gogh’s skill with a brush, but his skill with a pen is less well known.
So that makes his Van Gogh great nephew being stabbed to death on the streets of Amsterdam a few years ago by some radical Muslim with a grudge all the more tragic. Could you imagine a Christian with a grudge, sneaking into Saudi Arabia, stabbing a member of the Royal Family to death on the streets of Riyad? How would that go over?
–WSP7
Yes I see it. All you have said accords perfectly what the greatest masters of The Game have said: women respect nothing more than being rejected; and in terms of a relationship – they want to have strive upwards. Always leave them wanting more – never give all heart, except perhaps im moments of passion.
I broke all the rules in my youth and now I repent in earnest. These flighty creatures of the hour (Dee, a butterfly!) do not deserve any great consideration – and they know it well! They despise nothing more than the smitten lover who will do anything for them. There’s no mystery left – and women desperately need that in a man, depths that she can hardly see and can’t control but can control her. Of course if one is really interested, it all has to be balanced out by kindness and passion too…
Your mailing back the ring was masterful. And the amiguous quote even more so: in the Movement we call women’s anxious mentality that can justify anything she wants “the hamster”. And your quote was high grade hamster food that must have kept her spinning on her wheel at many rpm’s. Indeed some have said if we could but harness this force the energy crisis would be solved at one blow…
Who did you study under? Or did you learn all this yourself? If so, this is your line of genius. Perhaps a job in human resources would have given you more pleasure…
I think you’re one crazy dude.
You know damn well this country wants total military and financial hegemony in the world. That’s the game of risk!
I said the relationship between the US and Israel is symbiotic, but don’t think the US and GB didn’t want their sphere of influence in oil country?
What do you think that Israel is holding over our head? Why are we Israel’s bitch–I mean really? We go around the world thinking we own it, but all the sudden only Israel has complete control over us.
If the top echelon wasn’t making big bucks out of globalism it wouldn’t be happening and with their system of hollowing out countries from their wealth, guess what, they don’t need us to be working.
There are no accidents here.
This is the last time I will ever address you again on this blog. Your behavior is disgusting. Your attitudes are completely warped out and this is it.
This is the last time I will ever address you again on this blog. Your behavior is disgusting. Your attitudes are completely warped out and this is it.
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I support your decision Beantown and join you. Every week the same generalizations, race baiting, putting down so many different groups. I’ve had it, too. I join you in not responding anymore to Vlad.
CORRECTION
I support your decision LBENDET and join you.
Saw a special on him a few months ago: some now believe that he didn’t kill himself but that was accidently shot by some boys he was friendly with. He did want to die and didn’t want them to get in trouble, so he made it seem like he had done it himself.
He was a ridiculous figure despite his brilliance and very lonely too. So it might have brought out the worst in his young friends who enjoyed teasing him.
I have stuck a nerve of pure gold. You know in your heart that the Jews have vast power in the West, particularly Britain and the US. The rest of the world knows it – only we pretend that it is not so. As the columnist Joe Sobran said after they got him fired from National Review: The Jews say write about us as a poor, oppressed people – or we will destroy you. And 40% of American Billionaires are Jewish – not bad for 3% of the population, eh? And they have no power? Really? Ariel Sharon told the Israeli Goverment, “We control the United States”.
Can we confirm your Jewish identity then?
You got so excited you made a mistake. Soak this is wrong – you are my man Friday and I Robinson Crusoe. You owe me loyalty. Think of Gunga Din and Tonto too.
Vlad, if what you say is accurate, I guess some things, especially human nature, never change. A drunken, pathetic Kerouac, old already at age 46, was persecuted the same way by kids in his neighborhood in St. Pete, Fla. They didn’t shoot him, tho!
–WSP7
Yeah he went downhill and used to get drunk with his mother. Burroughs disagreed and said he was always like that and didn’t see that much difference. I suppose you can’t keep tearing across country in an old cars while drunk, high, half asleep etc.
Also he may have become alienated: he said the Nation had gotten more totalitarian and the police were always stopping indigents whereas in the old days you could sleep out and no one would bother you.
Also he didn’t like the hippies much: at one party they were mocking the flag and he took it and folded it with reverence.
What’s your favorite of his?
Who did you study under? Or did you learn all this yourself?
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You give me far too much credit. I was ticked off about something and the card idea and line from Hamlet just popped into my head.
I’m really embarrassed for you that you are such an old shmuck (grandfather?!) and yet so infantile.
My favorite T-shirt of my husband’s is one that shows our galaxy, with an arrow pointing at one tiny part that says “You are here”.
Shocking Reality
– http://goo.gl/dCbJA
One more comment to Vlad.
My comments were not to exonerate Israel and her agenda.
I see the big power plays in the world as the US and GB. They’re the ones that set up Israel in the first place.
Whatever is going on, in my opinion–and it’s just how I see it, it’s not a little country calling all the shots. That’s just plain absurd.
Look at everything else we do around the world.
Bottom line is we’re not going to do anything we aren’t determined to do.
If we start a war with Iran, it’s because we think its a strategy to benefit us. Like getting things set up for the transnational oil companies.
You should know by now how I see the economic determinism here and it’s not national anymore. It’s global corporatist.
I have posted before about the change in people’s behavior here in the rural midwest.
People are reluctant to be referred to another hosptial, because they don’t have the money for gas. I had a mother in tears because we were going to send her baby to St Louis, and she didn’t have money to drive there.
There are two trailer parks down the street from me. There used to be a lot of old beater cars cruising down my street, but I see more and more people walking or riding bikes.
People’s cars break down and they can’t afford to fix them, so they just junk them. They get busted for no insurance and can’t drive anymore. They lose their jobs and that certainly saves on gas.
Paul Craig Roberts interprets the sudden emphasis on Israel differently than I do.
The US has spent months threatening Iran, supporting terrorists, assassinating scientists and trying to get the world to boycott their oil, while they cut off their banking access and threatened all out war.
It’s not working out so well for them, so they suddenly start blaming Israel for it all. And then they say that they’re doing their best to stop those crazy Israelis from attacking Iran. The threats, the killings, the sanctions, the banking attacks…. all down the corporate media memory hole.
Now, it’s all Israel, with the US as the voice of sanity.
I’m not buying it.
“Visions of Cody”, 1952
In some ways as great as Joyce’s ‘Ulysses’.
–WSP7
I support your decision Beantown [sic] and join you. Every week the same generalizations, race baiting, putting down so many different groups. I’ve had it, too. I join you in not responding anymore to Vlad.
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds……… Speak what you think now in hard words and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict everything you said to-day. — Emerson
I will no longer reply to you. Your hatred and rage blind you to reality, and, clearly, I am just an excuse for you to vent your vitriol all over this blog.
Only an extremely warped person would see an ER nurse as a member of the intellectual elite, or believe that it is not a manual labor job.
Lifting 100 pound sacks? Let me introduce you to my 500 pound patients. Don’t think they can change positions on their own.
Anyway, your viciousness is creepy, so consider this my last post to you.
3:19PM This is the last time I will ever address you again on this blog. – LB to Vlad
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4:01PM One more comment to Vlad. – LB to Vlad
Well, the silent treatment lasted all of 22 minutes. Let’s see how long Asoka holds out.
Correction:
42 minutes
I didn’t know so many people used Match.com. I’ve heard that they charge you with automatic payments without your permission, after your 3 month trial.
I was talking to a slacker friend of mine today, and he said that he went on Match.com and his profile said “Do you want to marry a nillonaire?”, which was both truth in advertising and pretty funny.
The real story is Kurdistan.
I hope Israel is supplying the necessary means for the Kurds to free themselves from Iran Syria Iraq Turkey. I think that once the caged nationalities in the jihadistani empire see that not only the Jews but the Kurds too have managed to break free from the jihadistani imperialists, it will give encouragement to them and psychological momentum to do the same.
I will no longer reply to you…. your viciousness is creepy, so consider this my last post to you.
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There must be something in the air today. First LB, then Asoka, now Wage. All we need is for Prog to show up and give Asoka the silent treatment… AGAIN.
The Kurds? The drug-running friends of imperialists?
I’m surprised that you would be about supporting them.
That doesn’t make sense, Wage. Where are you getting this information from? The Kurds are nowhere near the drug-running routes.
Afghanistan Northern Distribution Network
– http://goo.gl/cpab2
No I am not Vlad, nor have I met him nor do I have his Facebook [if it exists]
US wants Power?
Why? To be Israels satrap!
NATO Fights for Israel? Yes ? No?
60000 Libyans killed by Nato bombs
wfol.tv/index.php?option=com…60000-libyans-killed-by-nato…
60000 Libyans killed by Nato bombs. The death toll in Libya, following the 9 months of constant bombing by Nato and the attacks by the rebels on pro-Gadhafi……
Yes ..Years ago Asoka said ‘Goodbye’ to us here then returned a few days later.
Only you wrote about that.
Lbendet and Vlad are like I dunno…
An Israeli and a Palestinian refugee talking at each other?
Aisha Gaddafi Seeks Political Asylum in Israel
– http://goo.gl/pjEqR
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You are such a dummy. Stop pretending to be white. We all know you’re black with an IQ of 80. Basically a retard.
If someone weighs 500 pounds I say they are on their own…Leave em at home to lose weight or die.
No man knows my history but only He who created men and will recieve me back. For do not all rivers return to the Sea?
About half way through “Meditations of a Buddhist Skeptic.” All I can say is…well worth the read. Classic Alan….bringing the dharma into the 21st century.
The Jews are not confined to Israel and thus Israel is a Nation without borders – and a mighty one at that. Your comment about Internationalism strengthens my hand and weakens your’s.
My Syrian co-worker. And the fact that the Kurds aligned with the US in Iraq.
I realize that Afghanistan is now the number one supplier of heroin in the world. As the Golden Triangle was, when the US was there.
Are you saying that the Kurds don’t run drugs and guns?
i m not saying they re blameless; but have you considered that most of the beef and poultry, and farmed fish for all i know, are pumped full of growth hormones in order to get them to market asap? and that it is ludicrous to believe these same hormones don t affect humans in the same way? i personally grew up knowing about it, but we were after all hippies and therefore cared about such things- seems the vast majority of americans believe their dear leaders, and that said leaders wouldn t allow anyone to harm us…all to say, maybe you could cut somebody a little slack: fer fuck’s sake, it isn t like our “educational” system is geared towards making sure everyone is profficient in nutritional and health sciences!
Does he believe in life after death or is that just allegory? If the latter, he is a destroyer. American Buddhism is largely a Maffia. England is a bit better with some real monks of long standing. The Western Buddhist Order is a gay cult though.
Are you saying that the Kurds don’t run drugs and guns?
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Maybe they do. Who doesn’t? But I don’t think they are significant players or were significant players in the past, so I really don’t see why they should maligned with such. In fact, if you want to talk about drug and gun running, the Syrians and the Lebanese are by far more significant.
Is it not absurd for a self-proclaimed professional man with a graduate degree from a prestigious university to unload such venom on someone with an ADN from a community college in the barrio? I’m the one attacked for being intellectually elite?
Nurses are not known for their Ivy League degrees, or their cushy desk jobs. Nor are we known for pretension.
Rhino is actually a textbook case of advanced degrees not proving intelligence, yet when I called him stupid, he went all blue-collar aggrieved worker on me.
This should have been treated with general derision for its absurdity, yet three men high-fived him for his plain talk!
The only way it makes sense is if they are all drunk, sitting in some internet bar, hunched over their beers, and blubbering “Keeping it real, my man”.
You can’t make this shit up. But I’m tired of it. I definitely won’t be responding anymore.
My daughter, the apple of my eye, the math genius, bought me a tee-shirt for Christmas, There is a crucifix and the words,”Men who wear sandals get what they deserve!”. Obviously I can’t wear it in public for fear of a beat down. I did wear it to work and offended the guys. I said ” Hey he’s your guy and was sent here to die so what is your problem?” I am a contrarian, what can I say?
After the US agricultural policy changed in the 70s, and farmers were paid to grow more and more corn, the population of the US grew fatter and fatter.
I wrote about it on my latest blogpost.
Yet what is the response of TPTB to such an adverse outcome?
Stern admonishments to eat less and exercise more, a whole new industry of gyms, for artificial exercise, endless magazine articles with new diets. And the worst of all, gastric bypass surgery, a great money maker for the medical industrial complex, especially with all the complications requiring ICU care and further surguries.
Wouldn’t it be better to change the farm policy?
Heh, heh.
Did you ever hear George Carlin talk about why do Christians wear crosses around their necks? And if Jesus came back and was electrocuted, would they wear little electric chairs?
It really doesn’t make sense, if you think about it.
But neither does the drinking blood and eating flesh part of it.
Eeeeew!
Rhino of white n black sez,
(On “race science”)
“… sometimes “science” has a way of being put to really shitty uses. What would be done with such knowledge?”
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Now we’re gettin’ somewhere.
Example: The laddie’s supposed race-awareness. That’s what ya get (as well as a shitload o’ killin’). Well, you’d have to ask his colonel what he’s “allowed” to think on this particular blog, though.
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Rhino on…
Religion I see differently. Many sneer at it and for sure there are absurdities but on the other hand I see it as an attempt to try and get a handle on what’s outside the “fishbowl” so to speak. Maybe it can’t be done. Doesn’t mean people won’t try ie folks like the Buddha or Moses or Christ or Mohammed. Some see religion as a kind of primitive technology: this or that ritual or incantation will bring the rains. If you’re a desperate farmer or a shepherd and your survival and your family’s survival depend on some downpours maybe you’ll give the prayer a try.
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Okay then, but, by the same token, one may as well flip a coin on whether to pray or not to pray. ;o)
Yes, I see your point about trying to fathom the unfathomable (like the you’ve-gotta-be-shittin’-me “size” of the Universe), but hell, ain’t the natch’al woild (including that cosmic stuff) ENOUGH without adding in deities with whips or love shackles?
And that there is what I find mighty hubristic of anyone that claims to fathom the “mind of gawd”. IMHO, that’s the height of ridiculous.
Also, my favorite sign to hold up during our weekly peace vigils is “Who would Jesus Bomb?”
Twice, I’ve had people pull over to tell me that Jesus would indeed bomb America’s enemies. And how dare I suggest otherwise!
wage, i hope you can understand that i was NOT high-fiveing all of the name calling, or looking down on intelligence- i was enumerating my own parallel experience, and was meant to encompass the narrow confines of his post, and my response to same…
BTW, I’d appreciate stopping the beating of Wage for a bit of thoughtful breathing room.
She’s certainly not of the “landed gentry” that collects her monthly trust fund check and sniffs at working stiffs. She IS a working stiff and deserves respect for taking care of peoples’ health, one-on-one. Get past her [erstwhile/sometime] abrasiveness to the person who is in very close proximity to the results of this culture and political structure.
(Only a suggestion, but I think you’ll find some merit to what she has to say, okay?)
I know, charlie, you already said you like the mushrooms, not the beer!
Thank you, ozone. I appreciate that.
She’s certainly not of the “landed gentry” that collects her monthly trust fund check and sniffs at working stiffs.
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But she’s certainly sharp! And one of the stronger thinkers here. Probably tied with Bustin for top spot.
Holy maloney, Charlie!
Are you certain you’re not me?
;o)
-Yer Doppleganger
Aw, shucks, now you’re making me all uppity.
Not so fast sharpy. You missed this, so I’ll bring it to your attention. “Rhino” is a sock-puppet.
Balkan,
ThE
Balkan,
Don’t know what happened above, but the only thing you need to apologize for is your infrequent posting:)
Love your posts!
Well Vlad’s posts haven’t changed – they’re still as ridiculous as they ever were – so one is tempted to question the synchronicity with a question that never failed to infuriate past female acquaintances: What time of the month is it?
(Apologies to Asoka in advance)
for whom, and didn t he deny that…?
“What do you think that Israel is holding over our head? Why are we Israel’s bitch–I mean really? We go around the world thinking we own it, but all the sudden only Israel has complete control over us.”
-LB
Seeing as who you were attempting a response to, I’d say them queries are rhetorical. ;o)
But, we know what it’s about. Israel is simply a convenient lily-pad the Imperial stormtroopers can hop off of to other “relaxing destinations”. It’s always been a tightly considered friendship. All the rest of religious and democratic freedom pretending has been exactly that. What Israel DOES with it’s Imperial backing is the large and ugly question that we await with [slightly] bated breath. Opening this contemplated can of HUGE whoop-ass vis a vis Iran will be a Waterloo of untold dimensions and avenues (and subjects). (Fuckin’ OBVIOUSLY; it’s the denouement of the energy gobbling period of human history.)
Um, Charlie,
That would be “doppelganger”.
Oopsie, not sure what “to dopple” might mean! ;o)
Perhaps, to collapse in a fairly slow, crumpling manner, rather than “toppling over”??
(Ask Q. for some Latin root stuff regarding that; I ain’t up on it.)
I have a degree in Health Science and a long
fascination with Nutrition.
I say that its Fast Food [not to be confused with Junk Food] that is causing obesity.
Also if you isolate by [hehe] RACE you may find some things that you might not want to.
The Military did.
Where is all this Corn ending up? corn syrup in everything?
I wonder how many peeps on EBT are obese?
nowwaitaminnit, sister! i like beer fine- in fact, i might be considered a bit of a brewsnob, in that i prefer fresh-brewed crafts, porter to be precise…anyhow, i didn t mean to give the wrong impression while ago; and i m with O3 re not piling on; i ve read your blog, and don t think you re snooty by any means! Rrrrespect, yo
I forgot the golden rule. Civilians will never understand. And that’s good. They’re not supposed to. I remember the first time I saw a mutilated body. I saw others. But I’ve never experienced anything like the emotions I felt during the first time. Rage. Human rage. Beyond religion, beyond politics, and damn sure beyond Oprah. How can a human being do this to another human being? It seems to me, in this moment of human development, that one of the most important things that we can do with our newly acquired technology, is to use it to stop acting like lower vertebrate life forms.
We are all slaves to that little window of time. And in our time everyone has a Nikon. It’s become almost impossible for the truly depraved to conceal their activities. Every now and then, some creature from one of these black cesspools of human behavior will stick it’s head up out of the shit just long enough to get CNN’s attention.
And here I come. A godless robot gunslinger from the 82nd Airborne Division (…Jeezus. Looking at it with these middle-aged eyes, that really does sound kinda’ scary). Make no mistake. I hope that part of American culture never changes. I don’t care if we have to ROW across the Atlantic and attack them with those spring-loaded pistols that shoot the suction cup projectiles.
Keep the ball rolling.
As an ex-Army paratrooper I swore an oath to DOG the United States Marine Corps each and every opportunity that I have; up to, and including, my last dying breath. ‘Tis a sacred oath; I do not intend to dishonor it. And it is with that thought in mind, that one day whilst standing amidst the smoldering “hubris” we done visited upon someone else’s tranquil shores, a thought occured to me. The only sensible reason for a society to construct something like an “airborne division” is so that as few of their precious citizens as possible have to live the life of one of those goat testicle suckin’ Marines. N’kay? There is a moral there. Wade through my obvious predudice.
JHK asked what is it about this culture that culture that we are trying to preserve? The vacant lot between the K-Mart and the Chuck E. Cheese? You’re the civilians. Give those fuckers something to preserve.
well now, that s entirely within the accepted realms of possibility, provided you are devilishly handsome; dashing and debonair, quick-witted, bull-headed & bull-strong; just sensitive enough, and an all-around great guy…#; )]
The more interesting question is not who, but why. Care to volunteer any ideas?
hm, having waded through the hip-deep prejudice, you actually have some valid points…’specially that last part…i just hope there s anything left to protect- you (not you, personally; i mean in the general sense) can make fun of JHK s predictions all you want, i ll be pleasantly surprised if the coming festivities don t add up to the last dance…
Rhino, who are you?
‘I won’t say in what profession or line of work’
Why not????
well, i m new to this whole interweb thing- my first blogspot, as it were- and i ve no feckin’ clue as to a good reason for it it occurs to me it might start out, at least, as a way to self-engage and/or self-congratulate…of course there is always the pathological “tee hee hee” factor, ie feeling like one is getting away with something, or over on someone…got 2%?
I’m not making fun of JHK’s predictions. I believe they are spot on. I’ve been living the life that he predicted for about ten years. So I’ve learned how to survive on the fringes of this society. And you know what? I’ve learned how to do it while it’s still relatively normal. Most of the posters here are just going to get thrown into the fire. Me and my buds already know how to survive under adverse conditions. If you’re building a “lifeboat” then you already expect everything to go to shit. My friends and I have determined that we don’t need to build lifeboats. I’ll just let it go at that.
Porter CFT? Do you drink it warm? Lager is where it’s at. I do mine in the chill of the New England winter. Lagered in the garage with free refrigeration. I use an outlawed 100 watt bulb in the ‘frig on a thermostat to prevent freezing. You got to love free(almost) refrigeration!
naw, i aint a limey…and whaddya mean, outlawed?
Hey X, I’ve seen the dead burnt bodies. I’ve carried the bags. I’ve been in places filled with bloody shit. I have been an American doing a job for 32 years. Somebody has to do societies work Although I really don’t consider it dirty work. I am a tool,that’s all. My compliments to the people in the hospitals. They see a lot of shit. But the guys and gals in the field are in an uncontrolled environment. I have had friends who died on the job also. In the winter of ’94 I was at 7 fatal’s, including one with three high school kids. They hit a pole and the snow was probably 6 feet deep on the side of the road. Tragic. God bless the young men and women put in harm’s way by the fed’s. They should not be there. Bring ’em home!
I just don’t know what it takes to convince TPTB that when they’re done with their exercises in futility, ya have to put the dogs back in the kennel. But they want to leave them in place to ENFORCE whatever exploitative policies they’re pursuing. It happened to me. I’m in a foreign country; the moment comes when I see that we’re WAY beyond our usefulness; why are we still here? The Afghans are just like the Vietnamese. They know that going into the mountains to find the taliban is certain death. Damn, man. It’s YOUR country. At least pretend like ya give a fuck. The time will come when instantaneous communication will no longer be common. I wonder if Americans will even hear about THE HORROR. The never ending HORROR (that is East Los Angeles).
I think doppel means double. Doppelganger is German. Or if you have a bad cold or a broken nose and fall over, you doppled to the ground. And if you were hangin’ with your homies when this happened you were a doppelganger. I think I’ll have one more drink, now.
Ein doppelbock, bitte.
If yer havin’ another…
Noch einmal
Coming to a box store near you!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_incandescent_light_bulbs
I really only use the incands for heat sources now, I’ve been buying LED lights when I get the dough. I’m about half full as we speak. Their not cheap, but I get 40 watts of light for about 4 watts of elctricity. F the CFL’s! Those things burn out in a year. That claim of long life is a bunch of S****.
Whitney Houston died this evening. The police said there was no evidence of foul play or drugs. But it seems logical it was the drugs that did her in; they wrecked her body. Boy, that gal could sing!
Keine bier, aber Stoly’s.
Damn William, that is some sad news. Bobby Brown took her by the hand and dragged her into the cocaine abyss. I’m already well into my cups and now I’m REALLY going into the cups. Lemon vodka? Mmmmmmmmmmm…….
wtf, over?! i ve seen them, and have heard they re full of mercury; but phased out? what bullshit is this? goddamn, i miss our kerosene lamps…and i think i ll have one with ya… cheers!
Sorry to break the depressing news. That kind of life is so fucking destructive. And fuck that damn sleazy Bostonian Bobby B.
I drink plain Stoly’s straight up out of the bottle. If I want something lemony I drink a good lemoncello. I once had homemade lemoncello when I was in Italy, and nothing, but nothing ever compared to it since. We drank a shitload of it at a small family restaurant and soon we were dancing in the streets of Lucca.
I wouldn’t blame Bobby B. since they divorced in 2007 and she had a comeback in 2009. What I blame is Christianity. Whitney got mixed up in a charismatic Christian sect that she though could be a “quick fix” for her addiction.
She mistakenly tried to apply a “spiritual” solution to a secular problem, instead of just checking into a rehab center (which she could certainly afford). Her Christian beliefs killed her.
In an interview Whitney said, and I quote: “…I don’t need strangers to come to me and tell me what to do, if me and God can’t work this thing out, then nobody can…”
Whitney (RIP) shook herself free from Bobby B., but got mixed up in Christianity and that killed her.
Once a bourbon distiller from Kentucky busted me putting an ice cube (single) into my whiskey glass. He queried, “Boy, why would you put something as vile as tap water into my whiskey?”
I had no response. I hate spending the day as a neophyte.
‘Did you ever hear George Carlin talk about why do Christians’
Presumably he did not give the Star of Davad equal time?
I think the guy was right. I understand about watering down the drink, but why do it unless you dislike the taste, and if that’s the case, why bother to drink it in the first place?
Man, I’m being called out by “Beantown Bill”. Dude, I’m a whiskey pussy. OK? After watching two generations of males in my family drink themselves to DEATH, I never really developed a taste for it. And don’t think I didn’t pay the price in the company of my paramilitary friends.
I’m sorry, X, I wasn’t trying to insult you. I never developed a taste for whiskey, either. In fact, besides beer, the only alcohol I really drink is vodka – must be my Russian heritage.
Now I’m gonna hit the sack ’cause I gotta work in the morning. G’night.
BeantownBill, being retired I lose track of the days, so when you said you have to work in the morning I checked, and tomorrow morning is Sunday. Sorry you have to work on Sunday mornings.
Bizarre American dating habits….
In one of your posts, you may have said that you told a woman on a dating website that you “…take uppers when you’re manic, and downers when you’re depressed.”
I recall that there’s a scene in the movie “Taxi Driver” when DeNiro dressed as a skin head drops some uppers.
Just one night before she passed away at the age of 48, Whitney Houston took to the stage to sing “Yes, Jesus Loves Me” at the Kelly Price & Friends pre-Grammy concert on February 10th.
That’s the problem with Jesus loving you so much. Jesus want you with him in heaven. Whitney was convinced her Christianity would save her from her addiction. All it got her was a one-way ticket out of The Long Emergency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDKaiXRE9cw
What Happens in Your Body When You Eat Ramen, Gatorade, and Gummi Bears
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/09/ramen-digestion_n_1263825.html?ref=mostpopular
As photographed using a tiny “M2A” (that stands for Mouth to Anus) LED/camera capsule.
Warning: graphic content (view after eating)
Will you please learn to write clearly? I can’t even enjoy your insults properly.
I was tryig to lionize you and you show bad form in rejecting it. Lionization is an art – as is the acceptance of Lionization.
LB said:
Yes there are the millionaire and billionaires and the very poor, but the majority is still in the middle class. If things continue in the downward slope, that will change.
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Well, LB, I knew the day would come when I would respectfully disagree with you and now is one of those times. The average household with members in their 40s making under $50K (a pivotal age I’m sure you’ll agree) has $51K in TOTAL debt (car, house, credit cards, college debt, the whole schmear).
The average household TOTAL debt with those same 40-somethings and a household income between $50K and $100K is $108,000. Basically, if you take the median of both income groups the bottom line is that the average household is carrying between 1.4X and 2.0X of their income as debt (the higher number is for the lower earners) but $50K is RIGHT at the national median household income.
I don’t know that there’s a fantasic definition of “middle class” but, however you dissect the numbers, if you average NEAR the median income you get average TOTAL debt AT THE MEDIAN of around 1.7X income. Thus, your absolutely statistical “Average Joe” whose household brings home $50K owes $85K in debt and remember that out of that $50K he only brings home about $35K-$40K depending on state taxes or even muni taxes.
So, do we REALLY still have a viable middle class when, even with conservative, “optimistic” estimates, the average household owes more than 200% of their annual TAKE HOME pay in debt??? I’ll use my “termite” metaphor here: The US middle class family is like a beautiful home which is infested with termites. The home will continue to look beautiful right up to the moment that a structural collapse of the home occurs. I think this termite-infested house IS OUR MIDDLE CLASS.
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You know I tried to get into the Beaver SS. My application was rejected. Fuckers. All I can do now is have another Doppelbock (Noch Einmal!) and fantasize about Nazi Culottes…ahhh hh hh hh hhhhh
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In one of your posts, you may have said that you told a woman on a dating website that you “…take uppers when you’re manic, and downers when you’re depressed.”
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I hope you realize that the “information” I gave the woman was fictitious and was meant to be a counterweight to her incredible vanity.
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I recall that some time ago someone on this website posted that when he has sex with American women that during sex they often ask him to call ’em a “whore”.
That would be me and it was an isolated, yet, delicious event.
If the middle class is employed, producing, and paying taxes, governments benefit.
If the middle class is in debt, the private sector bankers/payday loan sharks, etc. benefit.
If there is a complete structural collapse, nobody benefits.
Ipso facto, there will be no collapse because it is not in anyone’s interest to allow it to happen.
I don’t know whether you’ve noticed or not, but, that bitch Mother Nature does NOT negotiate with us.
I did something that I’m barely able to keep in check, Asoka. For the sake of this blog, it would be a good idea if you tamped the US Military rant down for…maybe a week. There are literally hundreds of active duty and veteran citizens that are dying to bite your head off. You dissed my family and I over reacted. So far, I have been able to get them to stay off of this site even though I was the one who directed them here. My dumbass. I’ve been watching. The more virulent have examined this space, and fortunately, are not interested. So, Asoka, should any of them appear ( there will be no doubt) do NOT engage them. Let it die. Otherwise, you will get hate mail from the webmaster.
Vietnamese materials market, and prices, "Journal of February 6, Tran Dinh, Vietnam’s economic Dean days, if the 2012 inflation from 2011 to more than 18% to 9-9.5% is a huge achievement, but an achievement is still not enough to rescue the economy. If inflation dropped to this level of lending rates will remain high (14-16% / year), is difficult for enterprises to financing, must be determined to further reduce inflation to 5-7%. 2011, Vietnam has nearly 50,000 corporate bankruptcies, this is a shocking figure, but was forced to reduce the number of difficult to maintain the scale of production and operation enterprises. Rebate measures to be carried out of the deep restructuring of the economy, or even to change the budget and public expenditure, including the tightening direction bold and funds used to support the enterprise.
wedding Gowns
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I was responding to a post that claimed that the population of Manhattan was comprised of 1% wealthy to 99% on welfare.
In all the absurdities I was dealing with yesterday, I did say the middle class is struggling more than before 2008. You just have to talk to store owners and workers to find that out.
That said, there is still a viable workforce operating here. That is not to say that people aren’t in debt. Of course, I don’t know the intricacies of people’s finances, but I do know that the people living her are collecting welfare at a 99 percentile.
Comment re: The person on this blog who thinks NATO fighting Libya for Israel,
Sorry, you must have missed the news cycle that month. Even MSM said France was pushing for it. They get the lion’s share of their oil from Libya.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/01/libya-oil
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MC26Ak01.html
There was also discussion on the internet that Gaddafy wanted to break away from the petro-dollar and was meeting with members of north African nations to create a new trade pact against using the dollar.
Something related to that upset France a few months before the NATO involvement, but alas I cannot find the article to share with you.
Danger In the East
Hugh Tomlinson of the Times [1], reporting from Riyadh, says Saudi Arabia will acquire nuclear weapons within weeks of a successful Iranian atomic effort. Citing Saudi government and military sources, Tomlinson wrote that “warheads would be purchased off the shelf from abroad, with work on a new ballistic missile platform getting under way to build an immediate deterrent, according to Saudi sources … The Times has learnt that commanders of Saudi Arabia’s Strategic Missile Force have been actively considering the missile platforms on the market.”
The likeliest source of such weapons, according to Western sources interviewed by the Times, is America’s staunch ally and loyal friend, Pakistan, which has recently been in high dudgeon over questions about its moral integrity.
Pakistan is the most likely vendor of warheads to Riyadh, according to Western officials.
Saudi Arabia is believed to have shouldered much of the cost of Pakistan’s nuclear program and bailed out Islamabad when it was sanctioned by the West after its first nuclear test, in 1998.
In exchange, the countries have long been rumoured to have an agreement whereby Pakistan would sell Saudi Arabia warheads and nuclear technology if security in the Gulf deteriorated.
Riyadh and Islamabad have persistently denied that any such arrangement exists, but Western defence officials and diplomats in Riyadh are convinced there is an understanding. One said the kingdom would call in its favour from Pakistan “the next day” after an Iranian nuclear test and could have warheads within weeks.
If true, Saudi Arabia’s actions might lead the casual observer to ask why if Israel were the boogeyman of the Middle East and the existential threat to Muslims everywhere — Saudi Arabia never really worried about the Jewish nuclear bomb, but only as it seems, about another Muslim one?
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Belmont Club » Danger In the East
– http://goo.gl/dRO1e
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but I do know that the people living her are collecting welfare at a 99 percentile.
Oops Correction:
but I do know that the people living her are not collecting welfare at a 99 percentile.
ps. I really don’t want to keep beating a dead horse over the head.
Righ now I’m listening to Max Keiser RE: the “Untouchables” at MF Global and Chase. The vaporized money from MF Global funds.
Much more interesting to me than any discussion I’ve been involved with in the past 24 hrs.
Keiser Report: FBI vs Gold Standard ‘Extremists’We discuss the gold standard extremism and how your dollar got to be worth just 3.8 cents. In the second half of the show, Max talks to Francine McKenna of reTheAuditors.com about the crimes and illegitimate activity of the MF Global collapse.
http://maxkeiser.com/
Buck,
Re: not posting often enough.
Being self-employed I am enjoying sudden work overload after almost two extremely dry years.
My work is a creating a beauty for, mostly, 1%-ers. Quite an irony, isn’t it?
When I catch quick break time I shift my gear into our grand picture reality that I am aware of to read this and few other blogs. My gear box is becoming worn-out!
Enjoy your posts as well.
thanx, ell- i ve seen various references to keiser; finally “clicked” on the link…pretty well sums it up- and ‘clusterschmuck’!!- feckin’ beautiful…and btw, so solly about your poor horse; i d have sent it to the jello factory long ago!
Thanks for your comment, Asoka. Don’t feel bad for me because my working on Sunday is karma. You see, I should be retired by now, but I knowingly have lived a profligate life and this is the cost. I’m ok with it – long ago I knew this would be the way it would be and I accepted that then. Life is short and we should do what we enjoy to do. Unfortunately, the things I enjoy doing cost money. This philosophy is kind of like eating your dessert first because you never know what might happen during your meal. Anyway, I’ve set things up so I don’t have to do physical labor, so it’s not tiring. All is ok.
so solly about your poor horse; i d have sent it to the jello factory long ago!
Ha, I musta been bored!
It’s outta it’s misery now.
My advice to you is stay away from the jello…
word…if i get bored, i ll stir the Vpudding…#; >]
ha ha, beans! that sounds exactly like what i ve always called my ‘early retirement’…! well, except the part about labor: that would be my ‘work til i drop plan’…
Playing Chess
– http://youtu.be/8E8Z9x-qlUI
Where has my child gone
My good child where
Soldier black pawns soldier white
My father will not
My father did not return
Soldier white pawns soldier black
Crying in the rooms
In the gardens silence
The King playing with the Queen
My child will not rise
Forever he will sleep
Soldier black pawns soldier white
My father in darkness
Will see not light again
Soldier white pawns soldier black
Crying in the rooms
In gardens silence
The King playing with the Queen
The Child in my lap
Now is in the clouds
Soldier black pawns soldier white
My father warm of heart
Now his heart is cold
Soldier white pawns soldier black
Crying in the rooms
In the gardens silence
The King playing with the Queen
Where has my child gone
My good child where
Soldier black pawned and white
My father will not
My father did not return
Gone the soldiers black and white
Crying in the rooms
In the gardens silence
The empty board
Just the King and Queen
(Translated by me)
Canadian Government at work
– http://goo.gl/qeu72
Bill, I’m seeing lots of American flags in that pic. Which one is yours? 🙂
Back home from a 450 mile round trip by car for a funeral of a close family member. I had to go, some things, such as family loyalty, transcend time, space, and $4.00/gas.
I would have gone if gas was at $10.00/gallon, maybe even $20.00.
And I was able to take a rental car that my son happened to have that got about 35MPG, highway.
And, since that son and my wife went with me – we achieved 105 PassengerMPG, thus easily doubling the the PMPG of the best of diesel passenger trains – so frequently touted by the mass transit loving posters of CFN.
Not to mention that our destinations included a small town that is never likely to have rail service again, and a cemetery that was 30 miles from where any train or bus ever has gone before – or likely ever will in the future.
Folks, I hate to break it to you, but we in the US will be walking and riding horses before we ever rebuild a functional mass transit system for the US.
OK – end of anti-mass transit rant.
Not really sure what prompted it.
Just glad to be home, out of the car, and away from Atlanta – which we had to transit twice.
Lbend and CharlieF – great job extending the dead horse metaphor.
Q – yeah, I know, I know. Now I just reserve 3rd person address for use against posters who shape-shift and lie to excess.
Vlad – Nice going in getting the pledge for asoka. to never talk to you again. How ever did you achieve this desirable goal.
Lbend and Wage – I would miss talking to you two, even if we rarely agree.
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Obams’s not much of a leader, IMO – but he is a consummate politician. I wonder if this whole Birth Control and The Catholic Church Thing – was a political tactic on O’s part – to make the Repub’s look even nuttier than normal at their CPAC.
“Romney, a Mormon who in the past supported abortion rights, vowed to reverse “every single Obama regulation that attacks our religious liberty and threatens innocent life.”
As Massachusetts governor, Romney was largely silent about a state law that required virtually the same contraceptive coverage.”
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120212/NEWS08/302120097/Conservatives-unite-Obama-bashing
Speaking of nutty approaches to life – and of the miracle of the internet and public opinion being twisted by The Powers That Be.
This young man from Saudi Arabia had this to way about Muhammed on his twitter account:
(the young man’s account, NOT Mohammed’s account)
“I have loved things about you and I have hated things about you and there is a lot I don’t understand about you.
“I will not pray for you.” -Kashgari-
There is now a Saudi Facebook group with 1000’s of followers calling for the EXECUTION of Kashgari for his “blasphemy.”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/malaysia-deportation/story-e6frg6so-1226269124923
We just THINK we have problems in the US –
– so far.
I was tryig to lionize you and you show bad form in rejecting it.
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To have accepted the lionization as though deserved would be the equivalent of bragging… a greater form of bad form.
But thanks all the same. You have used Dale Carnagie’s advice by “Giving me a fine reputation to live up to.”
I know education is in a decline and I know US open borders is a horror but:
The audit determined only 10 of the 410 foreign students who earned joint degrees from Dickinson State and the students’ home universities since 2003 had completed all their requirements. Most were Chinese, it said. The rest were Russian
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and below that new is:
“We believe that it’s very important to explore ways to offer more opportunities to women in the military.”
GEORGE LITTLE, Pentagon press secretary, on the decision to ease the restrictions on women in combat roles;
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Somebody please inform the Beverly Hills Police Department to suspend their investigation into the cause of Whitney Houston’s death because,well, Asoka knows best. I mean Asoka would have to know, right? Because what kind of sanctimonious asshole would be making such presumptive declarations within hours of her death?
I used to think that elderly wisdom was evidenced by a certain recalcitrance to utter emphatic declarations, a variation of ‘I’ve lived long to know that I don’t really know’ type of sentiment. But no more; not since reading Asoka. Now I know that spiritual hubris, equivalent to a hair-trigger guns-a-blazing US military policy is the way to go. Shoot first, ask later – Asoka has learned well from the US Military.
first, condolences for your loss; i ll try to remember to pour some beer on it…
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i can t take all the credit for my half; she floated the pitch right down the middle…!
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it s all political grandstanding IMO; i just wish k-dog had been campaigning since 2008; i don t believe at this point we can elect ourselves out of the mess the redemfuckrats have let us get lobbied into since carter…not that that is when our downfall started; just that that was (IMnotsoHO) when we still had a chance at fulfilling our (purported) role as the good guys…sigh…
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mass transit will soon mean how much mass one is able to lug around on yer back…
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and FUCK atlanta; they hung a felony assault on my sister for fighting back when a cab driver tried to kidnap her and her friends: he was driving them away from their hotel at 2:00 am, and refused to stop and let them out until she kicked him in the head…i firmly believe that the bastard saw an opportunity to sell a few sex-slaves…to this day she won t tell me the cab driver’s name, for obvious reasons!
Shoot first, ask later – Asoka has learned well from the US Military.
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LOL!
Whitney was a public figure. Her involvement with the cult of Christianity was well known. I quoted her own words and cited her own actions.
It would be preferable, IMHO, if you addressed the argument. The dead are not sacrosanct. We can speak of them.
Unless the dead die as a result of drone bombers. Then we don’t give a shit about them or their names or the suffering in their families.
jumpin’ crippled jaysus fucking christ on a cracker!! (thanks, op) i already can t wait for football to start- college, or preseason, even…has it been a week, yet?! i m glad i don t. have cable, i might be tempted to watch nascar…!
xhalor, Does everyone you talk to who does not share your point of view receive threats from you? Your anger is only hurting you.
I am not threatening you or your family. I am offering a different point of view on Clusterfuck Nation. If you or your family want to engage in death-dealing as members of the military, don’t expect everyone else to salute and say thank you for your “service.”
Have you read the US Code of Military Justice?
You have any idea how many TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS the military has wasted in the last fifty years?
You have any idea how damaging the military is to the environment (both natural and built)?
Do you realize how wasteful the military is of the remaining fossil fuel resources we have?
You have any idea how harmful the military is to our national security, how the military makes us less safe?
ASoka said “If the middle class is employed, producing, and paying taxes, governments benefit.”
…for the short term, anyway. That is, until the end of their terms.
“If the middle class is in debt, the private sector bankers/payday loan sharks, etc. benefit.”
To the extent that these people collect a paycheck, yes. To the extent their investments and savings are in the external markets, no.
“If there is a complete structural collapse, nobody benefits.”
What is a “complete structural collapse”? everybody runs out of receipt paper at the same time?
“Ipso facto, there will be no collapse because it is not in anyone’s interest to allow it to happen.”
Brilliant. The system by definition cannot collapse because the system has rules against it!
Brilliant. The system by definition cannot collapse because the system has rules against it!
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No, the system will not be allowed to collapse because the ones running the system are greedy.
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“The system” as such is a self-perpetuating machine.
I think the definition “machine” is a propos because it requires parts, fuel, and is a metabolic process.
It may be difficult to accept, but, everything we do is kind of hitched to the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Humanity has created a monster; it is called “the economy” and it is analagous to the large land-dwelling reptiles known as “the Dinosaurs” which ruled the Earth for millions of years.
Like the Dinosaurs, this machine has mass, a weight. Dinosaurs collectively has a mass which could be used to determine their caloric needs. I forget the equation. For the layman, all you need to understand is that for a pound of flesh, X number of C-H-O bonds must be munched up, broken apart, liberated, and digested.
This machine called the global economy has a mass and its metabolism can be determined. If we include the steel and plastic mass, we can infer their contribution. Gasoline, when burned, produces 4 pounds of CO2 for every pound of fuel burned.
When we exhale CO2, we are performing the same conversion of essential chemical constituents.
By this analogy, “the system” is a body, as we have bodies. And, it has a metabolism, as we have metabolism. It has “lifetime” as we have lifetimes. It has a personality, as we have “personalities”. We worry about death of the body, we wonder what the death of the system is going to look like.
We know death is inevitable in our bodies, and therefore we expect it in the system.
We look at the fossil record, and like a graveyard, it is filled with the bodies of systems going back to time “immemorial” (10,000 years, more if we really want to “remember”).
So we expect and anticipate this system to come to an end. Like a guest at dinner, he exhausts his hosts, and there is no more food.
All this perfectly describes our situation barring some incredible outgrowth of mind. That is, at the most fundamental unit, the cell, what it does (metabolises) is mirrored in its totality (metabolism).
What the system is, is a giant extension of basic human biological drives.
It appears we are heading for collapse, as inevitably as a flame sputters out.
We are not the first Earth-dominating species that has changed the climate with our metabolic waste products.
Conservatives say they don’t need Big Mommy to intrude in every aspect of their lives and tell them what to do.
The irony is Conservatives tend to be big supporters of the military. And the military is the biggest Mommy of them all. No other federal government program uses taxpayer dollars to provide so much “Mommy care”
No other government-run program does the food shopping, prepares meals, pays for and picks out what clothes to wear, and no other government-run program determines when to go to bed and when to get up. In basic training Mommy-military will even turn out the lights for you when you go to bed.
Mommy-military spends our tax dollars to do that for all the little soldier-children.
And Mommy-military tells the little soldier-children fantastic stories about bravery and courage and honor and how the soldier-children guarantee Freedom for all the citizens and keep our country and our military the best in the world!
Mommy-military infantilizes our citizenry by indoctrinating our offspring to obey orders and not question authority.
Mommy-military weakens our country through trillions of dollars of deficit spending (euphemistically called “special appropriations”).
Mommy-military makes us less safe by betraying our values and violating the Supreme laws of our land through the commission of torture, pissing on cadavers, kidnapping, assassination by drone bombers, and collective punishment of civilian populations, in violation of laws binding upon the USA.
Our country’s values are trampled upon by the military in our name.
everything we do is kind of hitched to the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
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So greedy behavior is a function of the 2nd law?
Asoka, human beings are in conflict over resources.
The family unit is a war-party organized to secure resources.
There are too many people, asoka. Too many people.
The 2nd law of thermodynamics is just icing on the cake.
There are too many people, asoka. Too many people.
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Gee, BustinJ, when did you come to that conclusion?
For me it was the first Earth Day, I think it was 1970, when I heard a speech by Stephanie Mills on the relationship between having children and resource depletion and environmental contamination.
I took action. Personal action for the sake of Mother Earth. I got a vasectomy.
When did you first realize there are too many people and what did you do about it?
CORRECTION
… the relationship between having children and resource depletion and environmental DEGRADATION.
Hey Asoka its too bad you didn’t man up when you had the chance and serve in the Army or Navy. It might have done you some good!
I still reading the criticisms of Israel here, and all the crank lunatic theories as to why we (the US) supports Israel. Could it not be that its is a small, free, decent, democratic country surrounded by enemies that would like to destroy it, and needs our help to survive? Actually I would like to see Britain, France and especially Germany help out more. Meantime its up to us.
Gasoline has topped $4.00 per gallon here once again. Does anybody know why? The Oil Drum states that domestic oil production is higher than it has been for years. $4.00 per gallon gas is likely to put a crimp in everybody’s fun this upcoming spring, not to mention the ‘Economic Recovery’.
–WSP7
“Explore Old An Juan and La Fotraleza, the oldest continuously occupied governor’s Mansion in the New World”
-From an advertisement for the Peurto Rican tourism board.
Consider the breadth of this statement. We’re talking about 500 years of history.
Lets consider the “reality” of “the oldest continuously occupied governor’s Mansion in the New World”.
The advert goes on,
“(shop) along the picturesque cobblestone streets where, centuries before, conquistadors on horseback once rode…”
Interesting, the image in the mind of the reader and the actual image, as suggested by the historical record….
“If you’re really into exploring, Puerto Rico has so much more. We have over 300 sun-drenched beaches to choose from, you can even enjoy one of the few bioluminescent bays left on Earth”
Interesting! What happened to all the other bioluminescent bays?
“For over 500 years, people have come to Puerto Rico and the Carribean to discover, explore, and create memories.”
Yes, indeedy.
this might be hard to accept for those of us here who are too close to the trees to see the forest; or who nurse a feud with soak…and disclaimer: i have RARELY agreed with either his views or how he puts them…but damnit, i have to admit that here is an astute observation, and a really well-crafted argument how d ya do it soaka, go of your pharmaceuticals?! i mean, really, couldn t you keep your posts more in this vein? please?
…and by that i am NOT talking about attacking the military, i mean using real argument, and i have to say i dig the metaphor… X & wsp: no need to pile on; my pop made it through nam bare-handed, and told me enough about life and death in the forces that i knew i wanted no part of it…though i would ve joined the airforce had i been born with good eyes…you have to admit that even if you don t like it, soak didn t say anything that was untrue that time…
Hey Asoka its too bad you didn’t man up when you had the chance and serve in the Army or Navy.
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I did “man up” and I did serve. Two years in a hospital as a conscientious objector. I’ve seen the ravages of war up close, soldiers so damaged they couldn’t wipe their own asses.
I was there and I hate war for what it did to us and them, my fellow citizens, who ended up in the hospital where I did my draft board ordered alternative service.
WSP7, this may be hard for you to believe, but I love my country as much as you or xhalor do.
I can state right here in the open:
As a person I love our military Commander in Chief, Barack Hussein Obama.
Can you say that? I challenge you or xhalor, or anybody else here who thinks they are a patriot, to express the same reverence for the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, here, in public.
I’ll be waiting and watching.
The perpetrators of the Lavon Affair in which Egyptian Jews conducted a false flag terror campaign against American facilities in Egypt all got medals years later when the eyes of the world had turned away.
Israel is not our friend by any stretch of the imagination. It is not a small nation but a mighty one with fingers in all the Western Nations. Dual Israeli/American citizens control much of our foreign policy. Do you think that might be a conflict of interest or what?
Beaver? As in split beaver? I don’t know what you’re talking about.
As a Vet, do you acknowledge that everything you did was for nothing? That you were fighting for the Asokas and their Global Agenda and not for us?
Most Vets are so discombobulated by what they’ve been through – and the psychological conditioning, that they are lost to rational discourse. Totally trapped in the no man’s land between loyalty and commonsense. How man Vets want to acknowledge that their buddy died for nothing? How many wives, mothers, fathers, brothers and friends want to? So they double down on their loyalty to “The Cause” and Patriotism for America and the New World Order for which it fights.
As much as it might violate our egos, this extra-metabolic system uses people to perpetuate its ends….
it is as if the natural instincts of man, which is to band together in mutual aid and help, has been subverted to help the system achieve what it wants….
Even the richest among us are just pieces of a machine, hell, they don’t even think they’re rich. And what are riches?
Nothing.
A very few of us work to preserve the world, and those people are the strongest of us.
So if we went to the Middle East for Oil, have we gotten any that we not have gotten anyway? Do the oil companies want this? Or just the Feds? Can you really pump oil in a Nation if the people don’t want you there? It’s a very vulnerable enterprise it seems to me. A few bombs and there goes any pipeline…
That’s why I ask if the Oil Companies really want all this. I mean even dictators will sell us oil. And our “friends” the Saudis will put the screws to us if it’s in their best interest.
That’s why I think it’s more political. Of course, Haliburton etc make alot of money off these adventures? But do the Oil Companies?
If we invaded Saudi Arabia to “get their oil” would it work? Wouldn’t they just blow everything up? Not that we’re going to, but I meant it as a thought experiment. But the same goes for Iran which is likely to really happen.
That you love a man who sends drones against civilians marks you as a hypocrite of the first order. Just because he’s Black.
Did you feel the same reverence for George Bush – whose policies were identical to Obama’s?
Dale CarnEgie’s “How to Win Friends
Did Ms Mills say that Mexicans that move to the USA have larger families here as opposed to those that
stay south?
Did she talk about Immigration?
Did she say US immigrants are a huge drain on resources?
VK, would you post this at Elaine Supkis, T.O.O. etc?
When did you first realize there are too many people and what did you do about it?
antisoak, in 1970 it was not yet apparent the tremendous benefits of immigrantion, how much the immigrants would enrich our culture, how much they would contribute, as inventors, as entrepreneurs, as job creators.
Yes, when I point out to P2C [a great man, one of the best here] that he had Broken his Promise!!!
he replied something like ‘I dont recall every saying I would never respond to asoka’!
[And wage watch the spelling at yr hosptial]
Yes, George Bush, just as Obama, is a child of God, a human being, a person who deserved then and still deserves our reverence today.
I never wished Bush harm, even though I disagreed with his policies. I thought he was a personable, likeable guy, and would have loved to visit with him.
Maybe for tea; I don’t drink any alcohol because I have no pain to dull. I don’t carry grudges. I don’t hate. I’m not angry.
I am happy.
Did ya’all see the Purple Squirrel at HuffPost???
I tell ya that Fracting is too much….seriously.
‘The third purple squirrel ever found was released back into …’
‘No Explanation for Pennsylvania’s Purple Squirrel’
WELL EXCEPT THE LINK AT ELAINE SUPKIS!
And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?
Reasons for war other than just the oil, folks
Couple of things I’ve run across today re: Iran war that we seem to want so badly. I’ve already said numerous times that we are in a type of disaster capitalism that build a security/military complex.
The way John Paul Roberts describes it, they want constant war to keep this boondogle going: They take the tax payer money and finance war with lots of private contractors who then kick back the money to our politicians for their campaigns.
Washington is both neo-liberal and neo-conservative, so, yes it’s for the expansion of the free market for more syphoning of wealth.
Domination in the region to get rid of independent states.
Media loves it for ad sales revenue and political favors for licensing.
Israel like it so they can get rid of Hezbollah and get rid of the Palestinians.
Oh, and Wall st. knows the dollar is worthless, so they want to save the dollar–very weak reason, but that’s what I’ve run across in my meanderings on the web today.
You read that commie rag, Huffpost?
The average Mexican family is five, composed of the father, the mother and the three children.
The average Mexican-American family size is four, and is gradually going down as economic stability increases.
I think the number of births should be zero … for everyone, wherever they are … but I cannot even convince my nieces and nephews of that.
I am powerless to stop population growth beyond what I already did to stop my own at ZERO kids by snipping my tubes.
didn t you post a link to it last night? goddamn soaka, take your medicine; you are Impeding again…
IMHO, psychology trumps economics.
We went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan for psychological reasons: to finish what daddy didn’t finish, to revenge the insult of 9/11, etc.
It had nothing to do with national security or with oil, though they tried to sell the wars by saying they would pay for themselves through the oil we never got. We did not get the oil to pay for the wars.
All we got was another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t you call me…
LOL!
I have a constitutional right to reside and to impede!
My surprise was that antisoak reads The Huffington Post.
I willingly admit I read it. I’m a communist sympathizer … and a pacifist critic of communism. I am large. I contain multitudes.
I don’t do drugs (LEGAL or ILLEGAL) of any kind, including alcohol. The so-called health insurance industry cannot profit a penny off me.
Re: Whitney Houston
http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/music/10599080-421/bill-zwecker-whitney-houston-may-have-drowned-in-tub.html
Grover Norquist may have mistaken her for the government.
hey prog- did you by chance read the article @ truthdig about the nuke plants? it pissed me off, and i m not in ga- y all must be steamed (yeah, pun intended) about it…and dang it, i still think there s plenty of juice in all of the renewables- no, not easy, but damn, wouldn t $25bil be enough to get infrastructure started to harvest & deliver all the different forms of energy? without waste products that will still be poison in 500,000 years?
Q quoting his own post to Vlad – You have used Dale Carnegie’s advice by “Giving me a fine reputation to live up to.”
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So, having been challenged, here is another memorable instance of male/female gamesmanship:
It was Kentucky I think… it’s been a very long time. Maybe Lexington or, I don’t know, Bowling Green. Yeah, I think it WAS Bowling Green. This was in my S&H Green Stamps traveling-auditor days when I visited about half the towns on this side of the Mississippi. OK, I exaggerate, but only slightly. There were days I would awaken in the dim light peeking around the edges of a Holiday Inn room’s drawn curtain so similar to the previous one that I sometimes was unable to recall for certain what town I was in.
Single and on the road alone in my late 20s the days were spent working and the evenings looking to get lucky. It was either that or masturbation or both. I did not spend my free time reading the great works of English literature or the Annelects of Confucius.
My modus operandi upon beginning a new audit in a new town was, at the end of my first day, to casually inquire of the store personnel, as though it were almost an afterthought, if they could recommend some place, a bar perhaps, that drew a good crowd, possibly with music and dancing.
In towns large and small crowd size and thus one’s odds improve as the days of the week converge toward Saturday. This would probably have been a Thursday.
Recommendation #1 was a surprisingly large venue. Many of the people there seemed to know one another since they crowded along either side of tables they had pulled together end to end in rows. The more distant and less occupied areas were left as individual square tables with chairs for the odd newcomer.
I bought a drink at the bar then turned and stood motionless checking the lay of the land before taking a seat at one of the individual tables.
Minutes later a girl came through the entryway alone and quickly spotted friends at one of the rows of adjoining tables. As she moved to join them I took note of her impressive figure. Since I was (and still am) quite shy I hated the idea of approaching her in the midst of a dozen of her friends but there was no other way so I did.
I waited for a slow number and asked her to dance. I always avoided any form of fast dance so as not to look spastic having never acquired an iota of talent for it.
On a crowded floor I could fake a slow dance by more or less shuffling around in one spot while making small talk at a distance appropriate to first-dance modesty. She was 20 and lived in a dorm at a nearby school. I was a bean-counter from New Jersey traveling on business. She was amused by the term “bean-counter.”
The size of her breasts, strapped in as they were, no doubt to deliberately minimize the visual impact they surely engendered since they had blossomed at what must have been a tender age, had me breaking into a sweat as the number ended. I delivered her back to her seat and her friends trying my damnedest not to seem overly impressed.
I returned to my chair, lit up a smoke then got up and began surveying the place on foot as though looking for other fish to fry but finding none, returned to my seat. I gazed around aimlessly, periodically checking my watch while a few dance numbers passed.
I caught glimpse of the object of my interest returning from the Ladies Room looking somehow different. Some re-arrangement of the clothing on her upper body. I waited enough time to convey the notion that I was not overly anxious (a shameless falsehood but part of the game, I suppose) then went over at the start of the next slow number and again asked her to dance. We again shuffled in one spot but closer. She was about 5’5″ and I, at 6’1″ was staring down into a now widely opened blouse into cleavage so vast that my voice literally echoed as I made more lame small talk. She smiled with the confidence of someone long accustomed to the power of her natural gifts.
The view was so incredible, so mind boggling that I could no longer NOT acknowledge it. I stared straight into her cleavage and said “My God, you must have been VERY popular in high school.” She gave me a little laugh and an “aw shucks” smile.
She demurred at my request that she join me at my table with the excuse that she had come specifically to be with her clutch of friends some of whom were males that she danced with and it “just wouldn’t be right.”
Frankly, I was taken aback a bit since I had it in my mind that the loosened blouse was for my benefit but it was looking more like it was for someone else’s consumption and maybe I was just a pawn in some head trip she was laying on a longer-term local object of interest.
A half hour or so passed with no further favorable action and, in fact, I was beginning to feel hard-won terrain being lost. I was becoming annoyed. I felt I had put the ball in her court but not only did she not return it, she picked up the ball and her racket and started playing a set with someone else.
I decided to go “all in.” After some fanfare of checking my watch and cocking my head in the poor light to read the name and location of the alternative location given me by the S&H people, I rose and unhurriedly left the building headed for my car in the parking lot. At fifty feet from the door I hear my name called and turn to see Ms Cleavage trotting toward me. “Where are you going?”
I explained that I was going to check out the second of two venues recommended to me but I would sure enjoy seeing her on Saturday if she had no other plans.
No, she was free Saturday and I picked her up at her dorm at 7PM. I have no recollection of what we did – coffee?, movie?, dinner?, bowling? – but it concluded in my room at the Holiday Inn where it became clear not only I but she hoped that it would.
She removed every stitch of clothing with her back to me. With her hands overhead large portions of each boob showed on either side. She turned and displayed the largest most perfectly formed set of breasts and nipples I have ever seen before or since. I laid back naked on the bed, my heart pounding out of my chest. She crawled straddling me allowing her perfect nipples to drag gently across my body. My head swam. I thought I might die.
As we dressed afterwards I held her and delivered a silly Q-line: “Wait’ll the guys at the office hear about this!” She smiled as if to say “aw shucks, you liked it?”
Ah HA!! i knew i recognized your writing! Penthouse Forum, ca 1986…? Balling in Bowlin Green…? Deny it!
Asoka, I thought you supported Jill Stein, Green Party candidate, not Obama?
Or was that last week?
–WSP7
Thank you for your actual service to this country, asoka.
Instead of “manning up” by working for the imperialists and killing civilians, raping women, napalming babies, destroying villages and herding people into concentration camps, poisoning the rainforest and stopping the Vietnamese people from being allowed to choose their own destiny, you manned up by helping actual Americans.
Good for you.
Viet Nam
“Approximately 11 million gallons of Agent Orange was dumped on Viet Nam between 1962 to 1970. It is estimated that Agent Orange is responsible for 400,000 deaths, 3 million victims of disease and 500,000 children born with birth defects.
Over 14 million acres of Vietnamese forests were sprayed. Agent Orange was also dumped in water supplies.”
http://www.occupymonsanto360.org/2012/02/12/white-house-us-courts-epa-shaft-veterans-to-protect-monsanto/
…too soon, [insert favorite insult here]
Now that was funny.
Asoka writes:
“As a person I love our military Commander in Chief, Barack Hussein Obama.”
And on other CFN occasions Asoka has termed President Obama a “war criminal”.
Asoka is making it up as he goes along, but it doesn’t add up to “multitudes”, only incoherence.
Anyway, I’ll let Wage and Asoka get back to having a chuckle over Whitney Houston’s death.(Is that a Green Party characteristic?)
I have nothing but admiration for the job you do, Ripped.
I work in a controlled (kind of) environment, with lots of equipment and help.
I know that you find yourselves in predicaments that I would not want to be in.
One of our paramedics actually rappelled down hundreds of feet to get a patient who fell into a crevice.
And one very hot, humid day, when some Arabs crashed their plane in the woods our paramedics had to take a stretcher into the woods and haul their ungrateful butts out. It took hours.
Well, I’m sure it’s money well spent to keep those thousands of miles of roads open, so that when people carpool to funerals they will waste less gas.
Because roads cost much more in maintainence than rail.
Yes, it is.
We all know that NO Democrat or Republican would EVER make a tasteless joke.
Poor Comrade Boxer is going away for a long rest. His response to any problem was “I must work harder”. His reward? To be sent to the Knacker’s by the Inner Party Pigs.
I thought that this was interesting.
I’m researching Lincoln for my radio show tomorrow, and I came across this speech where he points out in painstaking detail that Polk flat out lied to get the US involved in attacking Mexico.
Same as it ever was.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=949
Plus, what did so carefully pointing out the truth get Lincoln?’
Unelected.
Same as it ever was.
According to Facebook, Athens is burning.
The Greeks are rioting against their ruling overlords.
Asoka swears, “I took action. Personal action for the sake of Mother Earth. I got a vasectomy.
When did you first realize there are too many people and what did you do about it?”
Well, my first instinct was not to call the surgeon and request that he snip my vas deferens.
The second was a long and windy road toward who-the-hell cares and then finally to a place where I can compare spit and fetuses side by side and say “meh.”
I don’t even wear the pro-choice sticker.
Life is a game between the straights and the queers and everybody else is just in the way.
You refuse my Lionization as if you were trying for Sainthood or going out for the Rabbiniate, but then entertain us with us this sordid tale of lust and spiritual murder! Probably too long to use an exclamation mark.
Know I understand Xhalor – Cleavage, Cleaver, Beaver Cleaver?!
Why didn’t you marry that “little” girl? Know wonder you identified with the breast piece. Remember Jimmy Carter’s man who said to the Egyptian Ambassador’s well endowed wife, “I always wanted to see the Pyramids.”
Yr flaming!
I found the link at EMSNews and no I dont get to HP much.
We all know that NO Democrat or Republican would EVER make a tasteless joke.
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Oh, they make tasteless jokes too but they try to wait at least until the body has cooled.
There might be something to the petro dollar idea and closely related, the dollar being the reserve currency of the world. Both Iran and Venezuala want to change that and apparently Khadaffi did as well. But the oil per se, no. But of course it’s all linked together and the oil companies depend on the U.S military to have at least a presence in the area. So they can hardly complain when the United States decides to take action. They are the junior partners in terms of decison making.
And of course, the Oil Industry has alot of Christian Zionists in it so they’re hardly ones to complain about what’s going on either.
Hi Wage, Thanks for the kind words. 18 more shifts to go! Yippee!. I’m good at improv and thinkin’ in the moment. I work with a bunch of younger book studiers? they are officers now. That makes them my boss. I really never had any interest in management. They look at the older guys and say “What should we do now?” I say “shit I don’t know I didn’t read that book!” Of course we just do the job and ignore them for the most part.
“Because roads cost much more in maintainence than rail.” -wage-
Yeah, I’ve heard your argument before about costs of roads vs costs of rail, but I’ve never seen the actual dollars/mile numbers. My guess would be that a two-direction rail track maintained for a period of years is at least as expensive as a two-lane road for auto traffic would be – you have a website to prove me wrong?
My larger point is that we’ll never build rail out into the countryside where Mika wants us to all live like Cubans, or whatever. And we’ll never solve the problem of “the last mile,” either. In other words, without cars, trucks, and roads we’re going back on foot or into the horse and buggy days for most of the – greatly and sadly reduced – human population in the US.
The other argument that favors trains over cars is that our cars are never full enough with passengers to actually GET the high PMPG numbers –
of course our trains and buses are often running pretty empty of passengers, as well.
“Now I understand Xhalor – Cleavage, Cleaver, Beaver Cleaver?!”
-vlad-
Vlad, I’m pretty sure the Beaver SS
that X was referring to is this thing:
http://www.ultralight.ca/beaverss.htm
There are some cool youtubes of it.
I think X may have posted one originally, maybe?
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And I liked Q’s story about his beancounting S&H GreenStamp funded search for cleavage. Sorry you didn’t, Vald. I believe we need to add your name to the list of CFN personages who need to get laid more often.
And I think RT may be correct that Q wrote the story for Playboy some years back.
It’s just sex, Vlad. Don’t give it too many moral overtones and religious connotations or you’ll go even crazier. (Spoken as a friend would.)
It’s well known by the knowers. But they are far outnumbered by the ajnanis. That’s why Democracy is the worst form of goverment and should be renounced.
“the article @ truthdig about the nuke plants?”
-charles of trotting fox-
CF – I just did a google search and didn’t find anything particularly infuriating. You have a link to a particular article?
The weirdest thing about those plants is the way the GA Public Service Commission (PSC) added their construction cost into the rate schedule ALREADY – years ahead of the things actually producing power.
Because the PSC added the cost to the bills for residential consumers last year, I think it’s an extra $8.00/month for the average residential consumer – –
And yet commercial power rates have not been raised at all, and will NOT be raised – until actual new nuclear power from those plants is brought online and added to the grid.
Weird, and infuriating – for the average aware resident of GA – – which, as in any other State in the US, is about 10% of the population.
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I’ll stand by what I said earlier, though.
In Georgia’s climate, and with 10 million Georgians+ – we’ve got to have nuclear for baseload power –
There’s no alternative to fossil fuel for base load power, especially here.
Somebody prove me wrong. I don’t think you can.
You refuse my Lionization as if you were trying for Sainthood or going out for the Rabbiniate, but then entertain us with us this sordid tale of lust and spiritual murder!………Why didn’t you marry that “little” girl? Know wonder you identified with the breast piece.
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You’re losing it man. You don’t know whether to shit or go blind today. What are you talking about.. Sainthood and Rabbinate (note also, spelling)?
And were you entertained by my true story or appalled by its sordidness? The two don’t seem to go together.
And what “spiritual murder?”
And what “little” girl, in quotes no less? Did I call her little?
Lastly, it’s no wonder I identified…
uh, ’twas i; and it penthouse forum (as i recall from my impressionable teen years, playboy didn t have much in the way of correspondence…) and anyway, i was just trying to be funny- i get nuthin’…! not even from Q-check hisself
“‘I dont recall every saying I would never respond to asoka’!”
-antiS, to Q, in reference to P2C-
AntiS-
First of all, thank you.
And I’m pretty sure what I said was some version of, “I’ll only respond to asoka. in the third person* from now on…”
I actually kept up that third person form of address to asoka. for quite a while. I did renege on my vow because it was becoming cumbersome, because I could see that CFN rookies weren’t understanding it, and because asoka. actually seemed to be less of a RI for a while.
*Third person address was originally suggested to me, specifically for asoka., by Hancock1863.
“What did you do when you learned that world population was going to become a problem?”
-bustinJ, asoka., and others (paraphrased)
I elected to have only two children – which would be GENUINE Zero Population Growth (ZPG) if everyone on Earth did it. And I supported organizations (financially and morally) that worked for worldwide population control.
And then I put my nose to the grindstone at work, had my two children for ZPG and went to sleep – while the pernicious demonic and doom-inducing EVIL of United States overpopulation was loosed upon Planet Earth.
Did any of you know that Richard Nixon was working to stabilize the population of the US at 200,000,000.
Maybe if that Son of a Bitch – who I would never love, by the way, not even as a person – had not been such a jackass over Watergate – maybe the World would now be a slightly better place.
Or at least the US would have fewer residents to bedevil the rest of the World.
What kind of nit-wit would think it logical to try to be against a large US military, but simultaneously want a large US population??
Ah, wait – I have such a nit-wit in mind.
I await his impedimentary response.
sorry, i have no idea how to post a link w/ this phone- i followed some external links from another site, and ended up at truthdig…the article mentioned those construction add-ons, as well as the fact that they started construction long before getting approval…there was something about the cost of it, and that y all get stuck with the bill through subsidies…i don t know about you, but that would be enough for me…
and are you telling me that you don t think the same money couldn t be spent on a combination of wind, solar, wave and tidal energy to get a baseload of power? what if you take into account all future costs of nuclear waste disposal, medical concerns of workers and nearby villagers (i didn t say problems; i said concerns), environmental impact- i know, they say it ll be minimal, but c’mon, of course they say that…remember, we re talking $Billions just to get the nukes started…do you at least think it worth looking into?
“uh, ’twas i;”
-CF-
Sorry about that, CF. That’s what we get when I to respond to these CFN posts on the fly like this.
In Alberta, there’s a gigantic stucture a half mile long that “Beavers” have been working on for generations. It can be seen from space. What is it? Is it a threat to us? And are they really Beavers or do they just appear so?
Why take a risk? Why not just hit it with a cruise missile?
“and are you telling me that you don t think the same money couldn t be spent on a combination of wind, solar, wave and tidal energy to get a baseload of power? what if you take into account all future costs”
Wind isn’t going to work for Georgia, there’s too many people and not enough wind – especially in the summer when the real demand hits.
We’ve got a good tidal range, but a fairly short coastline – plus, the coast is 250 miles from Atlanta – the big center of demand.
Future costs, CF – ah, that’s the tragedy of the commons, my boy. And right now the “big” Federal government – for which asoka. shills so eloquently – has reduced those future costs to ZERO, for Georgia Power, and for individual State residents, by proxy.
Overpopulation is another “tragedy of the commons” issue – and overpopulation in Georgia MANDATES nuclear power in Georgia.
Some day the environmenatlists will wake up.
By then it will be far too late.
It probably already is.
Anyone here in the Sierra Club?
Quit! And raise Hell!!
http://www.susps.org/
It’s Rabbiniate. And I can be entertained and feel sordided simultaneously. And Prog is wrong too since I’m certainly not offended or sitting in judgement. All of us are lifted up by our brother’s victory and cast down by his defeat. Did not Donne say “Ask not for whom the Bell tolls, it tolls for thee”? And is not the clay brother to us all?
You write “no wonder” but I wrote know wonder and indeed we should all do just that.
Are you upwind or downwind of it? That’s the big question for you personally. How about Atlanta?
‘Did any of you know that Richard Nixon was working to stabilize the population of the US at 200,000,000’
Nope, never heard that till today! Thx.
Concerning over population, males should be encouraged to be sterilized at age 18…perhaps even paid to do so. The burden has for too long been placed on women and young ladies. It’s time for everyone involved in the making of babies to step up to the plate and accept responsibility.
I apologize for my brief absence. The pilot light on my vintage 1960 Hardwick has been giving me a devil of a time. If I can fix it myself – at my advanced age even!..it’s worth it. That, and the fact that the balcony of my place (and all the rest in this old pile of bricks) needs major engineering and structural suppport). Can’t wait to see the bill on that little ditty.
and anyway, i was just trying to be funny- i get nuthin’…! not even from Q-check hisself
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Sorry Charry, I knew you were kidding too and thought no need to reply. But to make clear, this is brandy new and original true material written today. I always wanted to get this tale down in writing. And since I spent 4 years on the road I have many a similar story I want to commit to writing before I croak.
As I mentioned the other day I wrote a memoir in 2005 that ran chronologically from birth to age 16. It was informative but truly dry and artless. I abandoned the project with the thought I’d someday get back to it…. but how to make it artful was the problem. Telling snippets of my life in no particular order on this blog as subjects were introduced by others has been an inspiration. I also just finished reading for the second time a wonderful memoir titled Stop-Time by Frank Conroy. The first time I read it was 5 or 6 years ago when I saw his obituary in the NY Times. I will try to incorporate certain elements of his style that make all the difference.
also, i forgot to say that for the sake of argument, what if said infrastructure of renewables was countrywide- with obvious strengths and weaknesses spread among us all…thing is, it would require a sea-change in attitude regarding the purpose of utilities, with an eye toward taking care of needs instead of wringing every last penny of profit out of something that some of us see as a basic human right…
…seems to me, it isn t even a question of money; rather of will…i mean fuck, hundreds of trillions spent on what? murder and land-grabs? why not invest in our country and people instead of a few thousand overlords who, let s face it, are getting it all, in return for no demonstrable service or good…you might call that redistributionist; i call it taking our planet back from the bastards before they destroy it, and us as for solar energy, i ll have to google it for precise numbers, but a rediculous amount of energy makes it to the surface of earth… back in a bit
Pucker said:
I recall that some time ago someone on this website posted that when he has sex with American women that during sex they often ask him to call ’em a “whore”.
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I’m not surprised. Personally, I don’t believe 80% of what’s said on dating websites esp. these requests for successful, cultured guys. Now that Femme Lib has given women the license to be as sexually rapacious as a high school football player, I think they just don’t cop to the truth that they just wanna get laid by a stud-muffin.
E.
Myrtle! Your back! I thought you and Q were together in the underworld. Sorry!, just kidding. Where wuz you gize by the way. Your comments are always welcome. all opinions are welcome. RT
I just looked it up, it’s 180 miles to Atlanta from Vogtle – 200 miles for where I live. And prevailing winds with oompf, around here only happen after cold fronts – and blow away from Vogtle toward the Atlantic coast.
We’ve got a SERIOUS looking set of gates and barricades permanently installed on I-16 between Macon and Savannah – ready, year ’round, to be activated at a moments notice. I was admiring them on my drive home from the funeral, yesterday. Ostensibly, the barricades are for hurricane evacuations – but they would be very useful in the event of a nuclear disaster. I wonder if that’s their real purpose??
Here’s a radiation plume map:
http://www.nuclearpowerdanger.com/plume-maps/vogtle-radiation-plume-map.php
LB said:
That said, there is still a viable workforce operating here. That is not to say that people aren’t in debt. Of course, I don’t know the intricacies of people’s finances, but I do know that the people living her are collecting welfare at a 99 percentile.
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Yes, there are still “professionals” making decent salaries but their world is being rocked. Teacher is CA are seeing massive layoffs, salary cuts (often from lousy salaries to begin with esp. K-12), and increasing requirements to pay into their healthcare plan. High tech is a joke. New graduates in CS often take $12/hour jobs as web designers. Some just don’t work for 18 months. Retailers are layoff off. Even doctors are getting less money because the insurers they’re contracted with don’t pay out as much.
Between all the stats I outlined in the earlier post and witnessing how the upper-middle-class is doing, I’d say the “middle class” in the USA is on life support.
E.
So Prog, concerning your son of a bitch comment. Back when I worked a skidder, ’77-’78, the sapling says to the Mighty Oak,”Dad am I a son of a birch or a son of a beech?. The Mighty Oak says” I don’t know son, but your Mom was the best piece of Ash in the forest!” HAHA kinda lame but a good one for lumber jockies.
More Folly From Mister Bernanke
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Now, he wants to find a way of kiting up housing prices so that, TOO, like oil, food, and healthcare get inflated out of reach of working people. What a guy!!
The average American household has more than twice their annual take-home pay as debt. When is this academic nimrod going to figure out that when you “stimulate” and the only players are the already-rich, you just hammer the middle class even further.
E.
ok, here it is, prog: from coolearthsolar.com: enough solar energy hits the surface in one hour to power the earth for a year…
electric power plants produced 17,320 Twh (terawatt-hours) in 2005…we (earth) are projected to need about 33,264 Twh in 2030…
according to coolearth, one plant using cpv (concentrated photovoltaic) technology, covering 150mi x 150mi, would meet the power needs of the US through 2030…
sorry no direct link, but you might want to check the site out anyway: http:/www.coolearthsolar.com
She was about 5’5″ and I, at 6’1″ was staring down into a now widely opened blouse into cleavage so vast that my voice literally echoed as I made more lame small talk.
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” What’s your sign, baby?” reverberating over the dance floor as Mercury rises through Q’s First House.
Sextile!
HI CFT, that would be 22,500 square miles of PV panels. That is a heck of alot of glass, aluminum, etc,etc,. As JHK points out the scale of it all is beyond our reach. Pie in the sky. Just sayin’.
WSP7, I want Jill Stein to be the new Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces.
I want the current Commander in Chief, whom I love as a human being, to be tried as a war criminal (nothing personal).
I am, apparently, the only true patriot on CFN who loves our current Commander in Chief Barack Hussein Obama as a person. I would visit him in prison.
The rest of you are fair weather Tea Party patriots, or chicken hawks, or partisans or racists or intellectuals or anti-intellectuals who cannot give Barack Hussein Obama, Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, the respect he deserves … but you say you love the USA. Right.
“As JHK points out the scale of it all is beyond our reach. Pie in the sky.”
-RT, to CF-
True dat, RT. Also, CF, all of the US remains affected by a NIMBY mindset – along with a bad case of BANANA – Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything.
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Don’t mistake me for someone who actually thinks nuclear power is a good idea for the US, CF.
But I haven’t thought much of anything that has come to prominence in the US has been a good idea since the waning days of the Carter administration.
I never would love that son of a gun, either.
But his heart was in the right place.
Possibly the last President whose heart was.
“had my two children for ZPG and went to sleep”
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LOL! And how many children did your children have, and how many children will they have? It’s a chain reaction.
You went for zero population growth, for replacement growth. Laudable.
I went for negative population growth. No offspring. Therefore, no offspring of offspring. No offspring of offspring of offspring, etc. Malthusian style.
Hey, RT, that would be 3 times the land area of our home state. But Colorado, I think, without looking it up, is 80,000 sq. mi. and Arizona around 110,000 sq. mi, so the 22,500 sq. mi. isn’t as much as you might think. Also, placing this much material into orbit to form solar energy collectors which can be then be beamed to Earth as microwaves is do-able with today’s technology. This just needs a massive commitment from the world’s (or our) governments on the order of an old69-scale project. The point being we could do this starting now.
“WSP7, this may be hard for you to believe, but I love my country as much as you or xhalor do.”
-asoka-
WideSpread, don’t Panic just yet, but I do believe we may have discovered an entirely NEW asoka.-multitude.
Drum roll please – It’s PATRIOTIC ASOKA.TUDE!!!
Notice that asoka. states that “I love my country as much as you….” – –
But, also notice that asoka. never says WHAT country is HIS country.
I, P2C, love my country, the United States of America.
I will wager that asoka. will never make a statement of love like this, concerning the United States of America.
Prove me wrong, a..
I bet you can’t do it.
“LOL! And how many children did your children have, and how many children will they have? It’s a chain reaction.”
-asoka., in his math impaired multitude-
“replacement level fertility can be taken as requiring an average of 2.1 children per woman”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7834459
Only a blithering nit-wit would argue that a married couple having 2 children would lead to a “chain reaction.”
Therefore, I will wait on asoka. for some explanation of why “replacement level fertility” is not “replacement level fertility.” jeeze!
And don’t forget thorium nuclear reactors, which could answer all our energy needs for a very long time, and which could provide energy input for making vast quantities or organic compounds for fertilizers and plastics.
In answer to Procon, I don’t think the NIMBY effect would apply when US citizens can’t turn on their TVs and computers, and have no electricity or gas, but could, if this type of rectenna farm would solve the problem.
Again, the point is, until you try something, why be a nay-saying pessimistic, depressed person? Thius is not pie-in-the-sky, it’s gold-in-the-sky.
“In answer to Procon, I don’t think the NIMBY effect would apply when US citizens can’t turn on their TVs…” -will of boston-
Maybe, Bill. But I still think people without TV’s and gas would prefer that things be built in OTHER people’s backyards.
Aren’t they raising Hell right now, to keep wind turbines from being put off the coast of Cape Cod?
Thanks, Wage. I have seen the war carnage up close and personal in hospital wards. Some didn’t make it.
But because my service was not considered “military” service, even though it was ordered by the USA government to perform the service (through my draft board) in lieu of military service, I did not receive any veterans benefits related to education, health care, or employment preference.
Those two years were the lowest paying years of my 45 year work history, attending to war veterans who got themselves blown up or shot up. I made less than the minimum wage.
In my county the draft board said I was the only person to ever claim conscientious objection in the history of that draft board. It took guts for me to do that, when everyone in my area was expected to do military service, and when everyone was going along with the system as ordered.
I doubt you will ever see a parade honoring the pacifistic service given by wartime conscientious objectors.
I was ostracized by my church, by my family, and by my school friends. The easiest thing I could have done would have been to just go along with the flow and go to Vietnam like everyone else.
But I refused, because I actually believed what I was taught in Church about “loving your enemies” and it cost me in a material sense. But spiritually I have never regretted the decision to resist the war and refuse to become cannon fodder for the war machine.
I, P2C, love my country, the United States of America.
Therefore, I will wait on asoka. for some explanation of why “replacement level fertility” is not “replacement level fertility.” jeeze!
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I said as much. Jeeze.
But we don’t need and should not desire “replacement level fertility”
7 Billion people is too many.
We need to gradually, nonviolently, intelligently, dispassionately, and respectfully, bring down the world population level to between 2 and 3 billion.
Thanks for your welcome! Being elderly (let’s face it, I’m freaking OLD!) I don’t get around to things as well as I used to. My Aunt will turn 99 this Valentine’s Day. I sent her off one of those old fashioned cards (not the e-mail type I get from my offspring) to let her know that I know how joyous it can be to still be kickin this side of the dirt!
I’m watching the grammys right know and don’t know who the fuck any of these people are (except Gaga, Beach Boys…god doesn’t Brian Wilson look terrible…and a few, select others). Whitney’s dead. I never really thought she was “all that”, as the kids say. She had a great voice. Just felt that she had to use each and every octave to sing every song.
Anyway, goodnight to all. I’ll try to stay on topic in the future, life be willing.
MM
Of course they would prefer it to be elsewhere, but if we were just about out of oil and nobody wanted it built near them, I’d believe the government would force the things to be built. It would either be built or we’d regress to the 19th century.
“I will wager that asoka. will never make a statement of love like this, concerning the United States of America.
Prove me wrong, a..
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You can’t do it, can you?
“We need to gradually, nonviolently, intelligently, dispassionately, and respectfully, bring down the world population level to between 2 and 3 billion.”
-asoka.-
I agree with you here.
And the United States should begin this process NOW, by stopping incoming immigration – and working toward a future population of about 200,000,000 or less.
We’ve got to start somewhere.
There’s no place like home.
There’s no place like home.
I dub thee Sir Con Man Fraud.
IMO it takes more guts to be a CO than allowing oneself to get drafted or running away to Canada. To not want to go to Vietnam, but then let oneself be conscripted does not take anywhere near as much personal courage as being a CO. Not that I disrespect those who served. Functioning effectively during heavy combat takes a lot of courage, too.
Turn on 60 minutes. The Hindu fraud Dr Potti fooled the American Medical Establishment. Beware the East.
“IMO it takes more guts to be a CO than allowing oneself to get drafted or running away to Canada.”
-btb-
I suspect that this depends on family tradition and community support. For example, a Quaker son with a long history of CO’s in his family would probably find it much easier to be a CO than I would have.
What if a Quaker with a long lineage of CO’s in his family refused to be drafted – and instead joined the Navy and then qualified for the SEAL’s? How much guts would that take?
Nixon was a Quaker, wasn’t he?
He sure did bomb the hell out of North Viet Nam.
It’s Rabbiniate.
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I’m going to defer to you on this one Vlad and here’s why: Although my 12 lb 4″ thick Random House Dictionary of the English Language does NOT contain the word Rabbiniate, even as some obscure offshoot of the root Rabbi… and although Dictionary.com comes back with the question “Did you mean Rabbinate” (oddly leaving off the question mark)… what it does simultaneously is switch to another app, Reference.com, where there are a slew of explanations using Rabbiniate as a legitimate word. As best as I can determine Rabbiniate are sort of second rate Rabbis operating in a sect or sects of Jews a couple of notches below orthodox who didn’t used to be allowed to perform legally recognized marriages (because, as I understand it, they were doing it for FREE and this is/was something the orthodox Rabbis couldn’t tolerate, like we have a hard time with Mexicans wading in to our southwest to undercut all sorts of manual labor wage rates)… but NOW they’ve worked some sort of deal permitting them to perform these marriages and these Rabbis are said to be Rabbiniate.
I’m sure Mika/Met will set this goy Q straight with the right poop if he (Q) has in fact misinterpreted.
But how you see me as somehow “going out for the Rabbiniate” is beyond me. Is this by some stretch a reference for my having conducted my own daughter’s legal non-religious marriage last May?
Later in life Ali admitted America had been very good to him and said that he was “glad his great Grand Daddy took that boat ride”. I mean what good would his gift have been in Africa? Whites made Africa and our destruction unmakes it. Perhaps I love Blacks more than you – I think they have the right to be ruled by wiser better men than themselves. But they have to accept this of their own accord in overwhelming numbers. Only that would be a mandate for our return. Let there be no more force in these matters. Of course, we would have the right to make a profit from the resources of Africa – that would only be just.
“I will wager that asoka. will never make a statement of love like this, concerning the United States of America.
Prove me wrong, a.. You can’t do it, can you?
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Yes, I did it. And now I’ll do it again.
I, P2C, love my country, the United States of America.
A true patriot has no problem whatsoever saying he loves his country.
My challenge to you and WSP7 and xhalor and other supposed patriots is to make the following statement:
I love, as a person, our Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, Barack Hussein Obama.
You can’t do it, can you?
Of course you are right, Procon, but since the US population percentage of Quakers is small (I believe), as well as pacifist families, I’m talking about the typical US young male who doesn’t have that religious or familial background.
BTW, my own guess of the maximum beneficial US population is around 150 million.
The Hindu fraud Dr Potti fooled the American Medical Establishment.
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Is he the one who teaches little 0-12 mos old Indian kids to “make poopies in the Potti?”
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Interesting, I didn’t know I was right about that word. Thanks.
You always forget, I am a great Jester and not the one dimensional hack everyone thinks me. I do think about other things besides race. I was just expressing my miff in a mock! Otherwise – a great story.
OK, antiSoak – let me show you how third person address works.
Asoka. is taking a SERIOUS new run at remaining the Resident Impediment over this “I love my country” stuff.
I think anyone with an IQ of 65 or above would have gotten it the first time that asoka. repeated my words back to me, “I, P2C, love my country, the United States of America,” so cutely.
But then he did it a second time, for no apparent reason except to Impede the dialog. He will likely keep doing it until some bright new shiny idea catches his interest.
Meanwhile, asoka. continues to Impede with the, “I Must Declare Love for Obama to Be a Patriot,” foolishness.
I suspect that he is lying about working with wounded veterans during Viet Nam – because otherwise he would know that “love” has nothing to do with respect, or patriotism, or anything else of that nature.
“Salute the rank, not the man”
“Respect the rank, not the man.”
I know for a fact that these concepts go back to the “civilian soldiers” of WWII – and probably go back a great deal further, and they certainly extended forward into the Viet nam era and into the present day
So, antiS, asoka. is indeed an annoying one,
and he will remain for ever and always on CFN
……The Resident Impediment…..
You are crossing your fingers on that one. Besides, one doesn’t have to love one’s goverment (I’m sure you’re not distinguishing between Nation and Goverment) – and to personally love Obama is weird if you don’t know him. And even if you do.
I’m talking about the typical US young male who doesn’t have that religious or familial background.
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BeantownBill, I did not have any peace tradition church upbringing (Quaker, Mennonite, Brethren). I was in the heart of the midwest, KKK country, John Birch Society country, American Legion country. 99.99% of the youth went off to war because it was expected of them. None of them questioned it. By questioning you would be shunned by church, family, and school, and that is what happened to me.
The Christian Church where I was baptized, a fundamentalist Christian Church, taught me that the message of Jesus was LOVE. They taught me: Love God with all your heart, mind and soul. Love your neighbor. Love your enemies.
But when I actually put that into practice and said I could not kill anyone, my minister said I was a communist. My minister, who had taught me the Bible for years, refused to write a letter of support to my draft board.
Maybe COs on the east and west coasts got some support, but for me in the Midwest, I had to travel to Chicago before I found Quakers who would support me. I was alone and isolated (this was in the 60s, pre-Web days) where I lived.
My only support came through books. And my friends (via books) were Martin Luther King, Mohandas K. Gandhi, Henry David Thoreau, Dorothy Day, A.J. Muste, William Sloan Coffin, Ammon Hennacy, Cesar Chavez, David Dellinger, Jesus Christ, E. Stanley Jones, Albert Einstein, Martin Buber, Martin Neimoller, Thich Nhat Hahn, Joan Baez and David Harris, Walt Whitman, John Lennon and Yoko Ono, Leo Tolstoy, Daniel Berrigan, Gene Sharp, Vinoba Bhave, John Howard Yoder, Linus Pauling, The Peace Pilgrim, James W. Douglass, Peter Maurin, and many others who inspired me and to whom I continue to give thanks.
“BTW, my own guess of the maximum beneficial US population is around 150 million.”
-btb-
You are probably right about this, Bill, making us already double the maximum desirable number – and growing at 1% per year.
Absent incredible luck or the Grace of God –
Great hardship is now inevitable –
Ah – For what might have been.
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And welcome back, MyrtleMay
I’ve missed you.
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I’m done for the week.
I’ll see you ClusterF*ckers next week –
If JHK posts on time.
Asoka, you are being very cute. Personally, I believe whether or not one loves their country is irrelevent because a country is just a political entity. I don’t love my country, nor do I love most of its citizens, but I do love its land and some of its people. I love its ideal concept of liberty and I am at home here and love my at-homeness. I definitely don’t love its governments.
I believe from your past statements you don’t love American society at large. There’s nothing wrong with that. I don’t either, and I think I’m a good enough American. So, what I guess I’m saying is it’s ok to admit you don’t love your country.
Also, you are probably the most purely contrarian person I’ve ever communicated with. I mean, fascinatingly contrary. My parents always complained I was so contrary, but I don’t hold a candle to you. Taking your body of postings, I believe I know what’s going on in your head.
One of my goals is to take one last cross-country trip before I’m too old to travel, and/or there’s no availability of gasoline, the cost of it becomes prohibitive, I can’t obtain the necessary government-issued travel permits or it becomes too dangerous.
As I haven’t traveled very much in the Southwest, and if you really live there, maybe when I do take that drive, I’ll pay you a visit.
You are still stuck at the anal stage, and the oral stage too – that accounts for much of your obsession with breasts. The bad Vlad, Kramps always want to shit on people’s chest – at least you aren’t that stuck.
But these fixations makes you always want to reduce beautiful things to their basest possible interpretation.
OK, P2C, you love your country? You support our military?
Since you can’t bring yourself to use the word “love”, can you at least say you respect Barack Hussein Obama as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces?
Can you do that, P2C?
My patriotism is impeccable. I have lived out the true 1776 spirit of rebellion (nonviolently), instead of blinding following, instead of obeying without questioning authority. I have refused to implement militarist policies which have harmed our Nation.
I have no regrets. But it saddens me to see sunshine “patriots” who allow themselves to be manipulated by TPTB so easily.
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maybe when I do take that drive, I’ll pay you a visit.
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BeantownBill, that would be great! We could arrange to meet in a convenient restaurant, somewhere along I-10, since you’ll probably be traveling by interstate.
I understand what you are saying about love of country. I do love the country (its physical beauty) and I do love the Nation, all 312 million (all the people who live here, including all the immigrants).
That does not mean I agree with them, obviously or support their political positions. But as human beings, as persons, I love them. I interact with them every day in the post office, in banks, in grocery stores. To me they are Buddhas, my dharma teachers, and I learn from all of them.
I love the rednecks, the WalMart shoppers, the NASCAR goers, the politicians, the bankers, the militarists, and all the inhabitants of CFN. I cain’t hep it. It’s my nature. We are one.
I do love the country (its physical beauty) and I do love the Nation, all 312 million (all the people who live here, including all the immigrants). Including the Mexicans, including the Muslims.
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That is what makes Asoka more of a patriot than P2C, xhalor, antisoak, Vlad, etc.
Asoka loves the country and the Nation, all of its inhabitants, whereas others want to deport some of the inhabitants and bitch about others. Asoka is the true patriot, with true patriotic spirit.
This week Asoka proposed having a veterans’ parade every day of the year. This week Asoka prayed for the veterans and their families in a public Islamic zikr ceremony.
La ilaha illallah Muhammadur Rasulullah.
As Salaam Aleikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.
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I’m sure Mika/Met will set this goy Q straight
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Already have. Now grow up!
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Some of Ron Paul’s Congressional benefits:
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Now that’s welfare! And they have the nerve to call my social security retirement entitlements?
They call Social Security and Medicare an entitlement, even though most of us have been paying for it all our working lives. Not only did you contribute to Social Security, but your employer did too. It totaled 15% of your income before taxes. If you averaged only $30K over your working life, that’s close to $220,500.
If you calculate the future value of $4,500 per year (yours & your employer’s contribution) at a simple 5% (less than what the govt. pays on the money that it borrows), after 45 years of working you’d have $820,028.55.
Let’s see, at $1,000 per month, in 820 months I’ll get my money back. I only have to live another 68 years.
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Maybe, suggests an intriguing article published today in the journal Current Directions in Psychological Science, it's because her underdeveloped powers of paying attention, of filtering out distractions and of imposing regular patterns on her experiences. Maybe it's because she lacks the very thing that makes her dad so good at filtering out distractions and getting things done–a fully formed prefrontal cortex.
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Mapping L.A. is the Los Angeles Times’ growing resource about the neighborhoods that make up Los Angeles County. It provides maps and information about demographics, crime and schools in 272 neighborhoods across the county.
The neighborhoods are drawn and maintained by , a team of Times reporters and Web developers in The boundaries have expanded and shifted over time and now cover all of Los Angeles County broken down into .
The Times released in February 2009. That group was limited to neighborhoods within the city of Los Angeles and crafted by merging together neighboring .
Census tracts are drawn by the and used for tabulating demographic information, including income and ethnicity. The shapes of the tracts are frequently out of sync with the geographical, historic and socioeconomic associations that define communities. However, by using the tracts as building blocks, The Times was able to compile a statistical profile of communities, something other neighborhood boundaries do not offer.
Besides merging tracts, we??ve adjusted the lines in many cases by moving individual city blocks from one census tract to another. In each instance, we??ve adjusted the census data in proportion to the relocated block’s population.
When we the first draft of the map, we invited users to send us comments and draft revisions. We received more than 650 user-generated maps, ranging from to .
After , a map of 114 city neighborhoods was released in June 2009.
In June 2010, the map was expanded beyond the city to cover all of Los Angeles County. The neighborhood total more than doubled to 272 as cities as varied as and and unincorporated areas such as and landed on the map.
To define neighborhoods across the county, The Times primarily used the U.S. Census Bureau’s boundaries of 88 cities and 43 census-designated places set aside for special tabulation. The Census Bureau maps were adjusted in some areas to conform to more recent maps produced by the . In addition, The Times adopted 12 unincorporated areas proposed by the county for future designation as census places. In rare instances, the census place names were changed to reflect the names used by residents.
The remaining unincorporated areas that have not been designated by the Census Bureau or the county were generally named with a compass reference to their closest city, such as .
Large rural areas were divided, as much as possible, using rivers, ridgelines or highways and given generic names.
There are 42 small unincorporated areas that either closely adjoin or are entirely within a city. For statistical purposes, The Times combined those areas with the cities. Thus the profiles of those cities will not be exactly match census publications.
The city of Los Angeles has posted denoting scores of neighborhoods — from Little Ethiopia to Little Tokyo to Little Armenia. But the city has never drawn the official boundaries of those district.
shows the names of many communities but does not try to make clear where neighborhood boundaries are.
Neighborhood councils within the city sometimes reflect narrow political considerations, and many have a propensity for names like People Involved in Community Organizing, which don’t do much to define a community. Many areas of the city have no neighborhood council, even as prized turf such as Occidental College is claimed by more than one council. The same problems apply with even greater force to homeowner associations.
ZIP Codes provide many people with a community identity but are designed only to speed up the mail. That’s a nice fit in some places but unworkable in others, such as the part of Los Angeles that falls in 90210. and each have four ZIP Codes. And dozens of ZIP Codes within the city are identified only as Los Angeles.
Unlike most other attempts at mapping L.A., this one follows a set of principles intended to make it visually and statistically coherent: It gathers every block of the city into reasonably compact areas leaving no enclaves, gaps, overlaps or ambiguities. Except when there was a compelling reason not to, we kept schools and other landmarks in the communities bearing their names.
We’ll be the first to acknowledge that our map isn’t perfect. No lines can capture the geographic diversity and demographic energy of Los Angeles.
Consistency is one reason. If we report that an event occurred in or , we want people to know exactly where we mean.
Analysis is another. Defining a strict set of boundaries allows The Times to package a wealth of data for our readers — about demographics, income, crime, schools and more — in common geographic units. Neighborhoods are easier to digest than arcane statistical areas like , and when many data sources are combined at the neighborhood level, they can yield new and interesting insights.
In order to standardize how we refer to areas included in Mapping L.A., The Times uses the term neighborhood to encompass everything from unincorporated areas to standalone cities to neighborhoods within cities.
For now, only the city of is broken up into smaller neighborhoods. However, there are plans to divide a number of the larger cities, including , and , in order to better reflect how people live their daily lives.
This site is built entirely with free and open-source software, including , , , , and . Thank you to all of the community members who have contributed to their development. Thanks must go especially to , which provides an astounding tool for publishing data with a geospatial database.
One note on accuracy. In order to publish maps in your Internet browser, we??ve often had to simplify the complex electronic shapes and sacrificing a bit of precision to improve the user experience.
Essentially, each neighborhood boundary consists of many points with lines connecting them to one another. Lots of points are needed to conform to curved or crooked boundaries. We used the to reduce the number of points for faster performance. This will sacrifice some precision, but is necessary to accommodate users with older comput
ers and browsers.
The Times neighborhood boundaries are available for use under a . That means you can share and remix them for noncommercial work as long as you credit The Los Angeles Times and release your creations under the same terms.
The boundaries can be downloaded below or by using the . Unfortunately, we cannot provide custom data. However, it can sometimes be possible to provide custom forms of information by contacting in Rights and Permissions. Note that minimum fees are generally $500.
The maps, statistics and lists that make up Crime L.A. were created by The Times using raw data provided through electronic records from the and . Because The Times creates these statistics using our own neighborhood boundaries, figures seen here are different from those reported on the websites of the and L.A. County sheriff, which typically break out crime data based on division or station areas that may not conform to the neighborhoods used by The Times.
In the course of building this site, The Times discovered and in the public data file provided by the LAPD. After The Times published those findings, the LAPD’s data contractor, Lightray, eliminated many of the flaws. The data feed now provided comes directly from the department. Crimes mapped on The Times’ site begin Jan. 1, 2009, the earliest we have data.
The Times has taken additional steps to accurately place as many reported crimes as possible on our maps. While using the crime report, keep in mind that, despite advanced technologies employed by the LAPD to produce the data, there is human error found in all aspects of crime reporting.
Currently, Crime L.A. includes crimes reported to the and , which patrols unincorporated areas of the county and has contracts to police Agoura Hills, Artesia, Avalon, Bellflower, Bradbury, Calabasas, Carson, Cerritos, Commerce, Compton, Cudahy, Diamond Bar, Duarte, Hawaiian Gardens,vuitton sac, Hidden Hills, Industry, La Canada Flintridge, La Habra Heights, La Mirada, La Puente, Lakewood, Lancaster, Lawndale, Lomita, Lynwood, Malibu, Maywood, Norwalk, Palmdale, Paramount, Pico Rivera, Rancho Palos Verdes, Rolling Hills, Rolling Hills Estates, Rosemead, San Dimas, Santa Clarita, South El Monte, Temple City, Walnut, West Hollywood, Westlake Village, nine community college campuses, and Metropolitan Transportation Authority stations and facilities that reach into neighboring counties.
In some cases, often because a city may have unincorporated areas within or near its border, readers may see a limited number of crime reports linked to that area. Because the data is incomplete, The Times is not reporting statistics or analysis for such areas. In addition, some communities already included may have additional crime in areas policed by other agencies — such as UCLA and USC — that are not yet included in our data.
For more than a year, The Times has been contacting other jurisdictions to request electronic records relating to crime and we plan to expand Crime L.A. as more data becomes available in a useable format.
The eight most serious crimes reported to the FBI by all police agencies in the U.S. are known as Part 1 crimes. They include of four violent offenses, homicide, robbery, rape and aggravated assault — and four property crimes — burglary, theft, arson and grand theft auto. The Times has adopoted the classification system the LAPD employs, a slight variation from the federal standard. It omits arson, which the LAPD does not record, and breaks theft from vehicle out into its own category.
Here are definitions of those crimes based on the and the .
Both the Sheriff’s Department and the LAPD provide new data each morning. The website updates automatically after the records are downloaded, and calculates new statistics.
However, The Times’ has found that the initial daily reports from the sheriff lag behind actual crime incidents, in some cases by as much as several weeks. The delay has made it impossible to provide short-term analysis and alerts for areas patrolled by that department. Sheriff??s officials told The Times that the delays in processing addresses are due to clerical staffing issues. For its own purposes, sheriff??s officials said the department uses reporting districts to generate internal alerts for crime spikes. However those areas are too imprecise to work in the Crime L.A. system.
Weekly summaries are based on the most recent seven-day period with complete data.
The Times’ crime alerts detect unusual jumps in crime reports in neighborhoods. Each time Crime L.A. gets new reports — usually three to five times a week — they are compared to what has been typical for that neighborhood over the past quarter. An alert is generated if violent and/or property crime reports from the most recent week are up significantly over the average. In order to qualify for an alert, the jump in crime reports must significantly surpass the average week. In addition, a minimum of three crimes must be reported.
The relative nature of the statistic means that neighborhoods historically low in crime can trigger an alert with a smaller number of crimes than is routine in high-crime neighborhoods. For instance, five violent crimes in one week would typically register an alert in Pacific Palisades, but would not in Downtown.
Currently, The Times only creates alerts in areas policed by the LAPD, which is providing up-to-date reports. Crime reports provided by the L.A. County Sheriff lag behind events, in some cases for a few weeks, making it impossible to do short-term analysis or generate alerts.
Following law enforcement convention, the LAPD and Sheriff’s Department obscure the actual location of each crime report, revealing only the block number or the nearest intersection. For example, 580 Main St. is identified by the police as 5XX Main St. Thus, each point on the map represents the approximate position of a crime, not the precise address. The Times places each crime on the map in roughly the center of the block in which it occurred. Crimes reported at shopping centers, parks or
other large venues may appear at a formal address for the property that may be some distance away from where the crime ocurred.
Not all crime reports can be mapped. Among the reasons why is that a given address might be outside the city or reported with incomplete or inaccurate information.
In the interest of providing readers as complete a report as possible, The Times mapped thousands of points by hand that, for various reasons, could not be placed automatically on a map. As a result, about two percent of crimes in LAPD areas and about five percent crimes in sheriff??s areas are not included because they could not be located.
In the city of Los Angeles, the population used to determine per capita crime in each neighborhood is based largely on the Los Angeles City Planning Department??s 2008 census tract estimates. In numerous cases, neighborhood boundaries cross census tracts, and The Times adjusted the neighborhood population by factoring the population of individual blocks as reported in the 2000 census.
Population figures outside the city of L.A. come from the 2000 Census.
Populations in and were adjusted using Southern California Assn. of Governments estimates for daytime population. Although the overall population figure is based on the 2008 estimates, other demographic statistics in the neighborhood profiles are still based on the 2000 population figures. Beginning with the release of census tract data in the annual American Community Survey of 2010, the profiles will be updated annually.
Crimes reported on or near streets that divide two neighborhoods are included in the per capita calculations for both neighborhoods. This is done to eliminate the possibility of crimes falling through tiny gaps between neighborhoods. Also, because the final digit of each address is not provided by the police agencies, The Times cannot determine on which side of the street a reported crime occurred, and therefore cannot correctly choose one over the other as the crime’s home.
Crime in the city of Los Angeles has fallen dramatically since 1990. After a slight increase earlier this decade, the decline has been steady for the last six years. The trend is continuing.
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An Egyptian soccer match between two longtime rivals descended into a violent echo of the bloodiest days of last year’s revolution as hooligans supporting the winning team stormed the field, attacking opposing players and fans in clashes that reportedly killed at least 73 people.
The fighting on the pitch quickly took on broader political overtones. The Muslim Brotherhood, which controls nearly half of the new parliament, laid blame for the bloodshed on thugs connected to toppled President who are plotting to destabilize the country.
The clashes broke out in the town of Port Said after that city’s team won a rare victory over the visiting Ahly, a powerhouse club from Cairo. Port Said supporters swarmed the field immediately after the game. Ahly players and fans ran for cover beneath the stadium and into locker rooms as chaos spread.
The locker room “looks like a morgue,” said Ahmed Nagui, an Ahly coach.
The bloodshed stunned a nation that has been enduring protests and violence since last year’s revolution overthrew Mubarak. There have been sharp animosities between the two teams — Port Said fans attacked an Ahly bus last year. But nothing suggested the level of hostilities that erupted Wednesday night, another sign of how combustible Egypt is as it unsteadily attempts to move toward democracy.
“The events in Port Said are planned and are a message from the remnants of the former regime,” Essam Erian, a member of parliament with the Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party, said in a statement.
Security officials feared the riot could provoke retaliation by die-hard Ahly fans, known as Ultras. The group, a mix of university students, workers and democracy advocates, helped defend Tahrir Square against Mubarak loyalists last February,burberry borse outlet, and was involved in the attack on the Israeli Embassy in Cairo in September. Its members also have been on the front lines in the recent deadly clashes between antigovernment protesters and riot police and soldiers.
Ultras, a catchphrase for supporters of many clubs, have become an ingrained, if erratic, phenomenon in the antigovernment protest movement against the police and the ruling military council. Many regard themselves as protectors of civil liberties who will not hesitate to hurl stones and Molotov cocktails at police, as they did in clashes in November and December that killed scores of people.
It is uncertain how they will respond to the soccer melee. Ahly fans have announced a march on the Interior Ministry in Cairo for Thursday. The ministry, barricaded by concrete and barbed wire, is the despised touchstone of the corrupt Mubarak regime and a symbol for many activists of the revolution’s failure to force the military from power.
Smoke colored by the light of flares clung to the spectator stands in Port Said’s stadium as millions of bewildered Egyptians watched the nation’s newest wrinkle of deadly unrest unfold on television. Police appeared both overwhelmed and unwilling to respond, often watching while frantic fans raced past them. One player said the scene looked like a war.
“There are 11 deaths at my hospital. Two other hospitals include 25 deaths. Three fans have also died in the stadium,” Hassan Esnawy, the manager of Port Said’s Amiry hospital, said in a televised interview. “Some died of stampede, and others died of suffocation.”
Egyptian TV later quoted medical authorities as saying at least 73 people had been killed. Some were beaten, but the Health Ministry reported that most appeared to have died of suffocation, head trauma and stampede-related injuries. TV footage showed fans clashing with knives and other weapons. More than 1,000 people were injured.
Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, the nation’s military ruler, dispatched military planes to Port Said to pick up Ahly players and fans and return them to Cairo. The Egyptian parliament called for an emergency session Thursday.
Indications that the situation was unusually volatile came when Port Said fans threw fireworks at Ahly players before the match. Hooligans tried unsuccessfully to rush the field during halftime, but there were no confrontations during 90 minutes of play. Moments after the game, which Port Said won 3 to 1, hooligans sprinted across the field to attack Ahly players and fans.
Two Ahly players were injured, and the team quickly blamed police for not preventing the onslaught.
“The security forces left us, they did not protect us. One fan has just died in the dressing room in front of me,” veteran Ahly player Mohamed Abou-Treika yelled while speaking on the phone to a TV channel. “To hell with football if the situation is like this…. Are people’s lives that cheap?”
Another Ahly player, Mohamed Baraket, said: “People have died, we are seeing corpses now. There are no security forces or army personnel to protect us.”
Ahly’s TV channel reported that Port Said fans blocked ambulances from reaching the field for up to 90 minutes. Those reports could not be independently confirmed. Escaping players and fans rushed toward the locker rooms, where they were trapped as police attempted to regain control.
“We need one official who can be respectable enough to come and tell us who was responsible for this,” said Nader Sayed, Ahly’s game broadcaster. “Some people want to make the image seem chaotic and blame it on the revolution, so people would hate anything related to the revolution and real change.”
He added: “We tried calling [the] minister of interior, and we were told by his office manager that he is in an emergency meeting. What can be more urgent than the lives of people?”
The bloodshed is likely to affect relations between the Muslim Brotherhood and the military rulers. Both sides have been negotiating on the parameters of a new constitution and the election of a president in June. Activists have accused the Brotherhood, once the nation’s most potent opposition, of becoming too cozy with the army.
But shortly after the soccer violence, Erian, the Brotherhood member of parliament, said, “This tragedy is a result of intentional reluctance by the military and the police.”
Hassan is a special correspondent.
“I had a sabbatical coming up,” says Marcus, a psychology professor at New York University. “I decided to see what would happen if I devoted myself to music full time, for a month or two — or as long as I could stand. If someone as tuneless as I could make progress, perhaps there was hope for anyone.”
Marcus’ journey may have started because he wanted to rock, but he’s also director of NYU’s Center for Language and Music. This book in the end is about more than a desire to shred like Eddie Van Halen. Marcus examines how our brains are affected by creativity — learning a musical instrument, for instance, or a new language — and how these experiences remain open to all of us, no matter our age.
How? By practice. Practice spurs brain growth, he says. It causes the brain to take what it learns and shift it from explicit to implicit — a process he calls “proceduralization.” That’s why the beginning guitarist struggles to bend a string but a practiced player bends the same note seemingly without any effort. The whole exercise moves, thanks to the brain, to a deeper, visceral level — that’s the level at which great musicians play.
It’s also the level that a young child reaches more quickly than an adult, but that doesn’t mean adults should give up. The fact is, Marcus says, “a musical mind develops only if we put in years of hard work … in which parts of the brain that evolved for other purposes such as language … are gradually co-opted into doing something new.”
It sounds as if Marcus were stating the obvious — “Practice makes perfect,” right? — but his book looks far more deeply into the ways our brains rewire themselves and find ways to compensate for certain gaps or deficits in our abilities.
In the process of demonstrating these, Marcus sounds an encouraging note (pun intended) for older readers who have always wanted to do something but have never had time.
The reason for learning anything,hermes, whether it’s guitar (Marcus succeeds, playing well enough to perform before a Brooklyn audience), Guitar Hero or Mandarin Chinese, isn’t perfection or virtuoso skill. The motive is far simpler: bliss. Learning makes us happy, and it provides us with feelings of control and novelty, Marcus concludes in this thoughtful study, that are crucial to our psyches.
“[M]aybe, just maybe,” he says, “the art of reinvention and acquiring new skills can give us a sense of a life well lived.”
Rock on.
Marcus will visit L.A. on Feb. 24 for a Zócalo Public Square event at the Museum of Contemporary Art, http://www.zocalopublicsquare.org.
nick.owchar@latimes.com
The House passed a sweeping new ethics bill that bans lawmakers from using insider information for personal gain, but Republican leaders came under criticism for softening the legislation in a way that some view as beneficial to Wall Street investors.
joined to give the bill overwhelming support — it passed 417 to 2 — as lawmakers try to show voters they are holding themselves to tough ethical standards. The gave nearly unanimous approval to a different version of the bill last week.
The legislation prohibits lawmakers and executive branch officials from using information they learn on the job, if it is not known publicly,burberry prezzi, in their personal financial transactions.
But the decision by House Majority Leader (R-Va.) to exclude a provision that sought to monitor the flow of “political intelligence” — a relatively newly defined practice of selling Washington information largely to financial investors — puts the legislation on an uncertain path. The Senate bill required those who broker in political intelligence to register much the way lobbyists must do.
“What a sorry — but telling — display,” said Craig Holman, a lobbyist for Public Citizen, a government watchdog group. “The Republican leadership’s weakening of legislation banning congressional insider trading reflects its commitment to the hedge funds and Wall Street interests.”
GOP leaders stood by their decision to dash the provision, which had been added to the Senate bill by Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa). House Republicans instead opted to have the issue studied.
Grassley called House GOP leadership’s action “extremely disappointing.” The different versions of the bills must be resolved if they are to become law — an uncertain prospect.
The overwhelming support for the bills came after news reports, including a “60 Minutes” episode, drew attention to lawmakers’ personal financial activities.
One addition the GOP leaders made to the House bill stemmed from the news show’s investigation into the business dealings of Minority Leader (D-San Francisco), whose husband had purchased Visa stock before Congress considered legislation on credit cards. Dubbed the “Pelosi Provision,” it would bar lawmakers from using insider information to act on initial public offerings.
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The studios have struggled over how to respond to Redbox, which rents out movies at prices that undercut those charged by traditional video-rental stores such as Blockbuster. Some home entertainment executives worry that the kiosks, now found in more than 17,000 places nationwide, are undercutting DVD sales.
Sales of packaged media — DVDs and Blu-ray discs — were off 13.5% for the first half of the year. The drop in DVD sales was only partially offset by the growth in purchases of Blu-ray discs and digital distribution. Rental spending rose 8% in the same period, according to the Digital Entertainment Group, a trade organization.
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What a 3 ringed circus act the last “super bowl” was. The ball cap mentality in action. People’s lives who are ready to go to hell on a handbasket all geeked up about a bunch of Neanderthls chasing a ball around and bashing their heads together.
The patriotic orgy before and throughout the game was telling. Is the more evidence of the desperation of an empire in its death throes, trying to wish away the decline or some vain and totally futile effort the once again fool us into believing that all this flagwaving will somehow replenish forever lost carbon based fossil fuels, or maybe all of the above with the indirect idea that the US should get ready for more and never ending wars against faceless enemies? (until the staggering amounts of energy needed to run the military machine ends abruptly and the US collapses into the history books like former USSR dinosaur? It once existed, but does not anymore so is no longer scary)
Just trying to imagine if this spectacle was held in the land of nascar with the hee-haw types attending (like the inbreds that booed SRV for playing the national anthem). I can see the 21 gun salute, the jet fighters flying overhead, perhaps pictures of Hugo Chavez and the leader of Iran being blown up in effigy.
I knew the end of the world was not far behind when circus freak Michael Jackson’s “thriller” album outsold Pink Floyd’s “dark side of the moon” as the top selling album. So we were “treated” to this spectacle of the “material girl” and the period when quality music long ago died in the 80s singing her bubble gum chewing nursery rhymes with a circus act to compensate for a lack of talent. I would rather have seen Crystal Bowersox or someone else like Janis. Gave me yet another excuse to get online or take a piss. The last superbowl I bothered to watch was when the WHO played halftime, and even pushing into old age, at 1/4 strength with Keith Moon and John Entwistle gone, they still could blow most of these new bands and freak circus acts off the stage. Such is the mindset of the masses as evidenced by the superbowl itself and the music that people find entertaining. Truly pathetic
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Connecticut-based firm Poseidon Resources is proposing a seawater desalination plant on a 12-acre site next to a coastal power plant, which is adjacent to a popular state beach.
According to the company, it would be the largest such facility in the Western Hemisphere. The $350-million facility, they said, would supply 50 million gallons of drinking water a day — enough to supply 300,000 people.
Although local water agencies, lawmakers and the business community generally support building the plant, environmentalists say its ocean water intake system would kill fish, plankton larvae and other sea creatures, while spitting extra salty water known as “brine” back into the ocean. The discharged water would be tainted with iron and cleaning fluids, critics say.
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A state policy adopted in 2010 will phase out the use of seawater to cool coastal power plants, a process that kills fish, larvae, eggs, seals, sea lions, turtles and other creatures when they get trapped against screens or sucked into the plant and exposed to heated water.
The new policy by the state water board would end seawater cooling at the Huntington Beach power plant as early as 2020, but it does not apply to stand-alone desalination plants.
Conservation groups say the company’s new proposal seeks to bypass those restrictions.
“It’s going to perpetuate the use of the type of cooling that the state tried to eliminate,” said Ray Hiemstra, associate program director for Orange County Coastkeeper, a watershed conservation group. “It’s just perpetuating a killing machine.”
The company says environmental groups exaggerate the toll on sea life.
Scott Maloni, a vice president for Poseidon Resources, said the impact on marine life would be insignificant “in exchange for producing a drought-proof drinking-water supply for 300,000 people.”
Supporters, including local public water agencies, building and chamber groups and a number of state and local lawmakers, say the desalination plant would provide a reliable, local water supply for Orange County, which relies mostly on imported water.
Some half a dozen desalination plants are under consideration along the California coast, but only a handful of small facilities and demonstration projects have been built.
Poseidon is further along on a proposal to build a similar desalination plant in Carlsbad and has asked for the state’s permission to issue $780 million in tax-exempt bonds to help pay for it. The firm could break ground on that facility as early as this summer, Maloni said. The earliest the Huntington Beach plant could start operating is 2016, the company said.
Poseidon’s only previous attempt at a desalination plant was not successful. Tampa Bay Water bought out Poseidon’s interest in the Apollo Beach, Fla., facility after contractors filed for bankruptcy. The plant, which uses water from Tampa Bay, was shut down for several years for repairs and, since coming back online, has had difficulties meeting its promised 25 million gallons a day.
The Huntington Beach project, which has been in the works for more than 12 years, still needs approval from the state Coastal Commission to move forward.
The project is certain to get another hearing; environmental groups said they would appeal the decision to the state water board. State water regulators are collecting scientific and technical data in order to draft new policies on seawater intake specific to desalination plants. The policies could be adopted in the next year.
Perhaps you haven't heard, being otherwise engaged with going about the business of living, but Monday actress Lindsay Lohan was ordered to wear a remote alcohol monitor at all times. And the device — a 10-ounce anklet — was strapped on right at the courthouse.
The story:
Rule-breakers might automatically wonder how to fool the device; skeptics might wonder just how sensitive it really is; and everyone else has probably moved on to other news. So for the first two groups…
The new accessory tests for the presence of every half-hour, as this L.A. Now post notes. Here's an explainer of how it gets there, that is, ,louis vuitton borse, courtesy of intox.com.
SCRAMx, the company that makes the bracelet, seems quite confident of its product's ability to discern alcohol use, explaining , when taking a reading (slight vibration) and the . It states:
The Washington Post describes one woman's in this recent article; a reporter at that paper describes his own in a separate piece.
An excerpt:
A reporter at Pittsburgh's Tribune-Review tried a similar experiment, attempting to and then drinking steadily.
Thus far, the rule-breakers are outnumbering the skeptics (or, in any case, the idly curious), with most published accounts devoted to whether the device can be fooled, not its accuracy.
But alcohol is more common than you might think, found in a rather impressive array of , as the American Coalition for Ethanol proudly notes — and thus sensitivity becomes an issue.
One teenager makes clear why , in any case, is ill-advised. The judge seemed understanding though…
— Tami Dennis
Photo: Lindsay Lohan appeared in court Monday.
Credit: Jae Hong-Pool / Getty Images
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Normal-weight consumers experienced lower self-esteem after exposure to moderately heavy models, such as those in Dove’s campaign, than after exposure to moderately thin models. Mandel said that when normal-weight women viewed the moderately heavy models, they worried that they were similar and overweight.
The response to her findings on blogs and health websites included accusations that the study was anti-feminist, or pro-anorexia, and that it worked against positive attempts to change society’s view of what is desirable.
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At Sevenly, a business started by young entrepreneurs in Orange County, a key to the operation is the number seven.
Each line of T-shirts and hoodies designed by the company goes on sale for exactly seven days. No more, no less.
The Fullerton company donates to seven causes: anti-slavery, hunger relief, clean water, medical help, disaster relief, anti-poverty and miscellaneous aid.
And for every item sold, Sevenly donates — you guessed it — $7.
“It’s a great number,” said co-founder Dale Partridge, who holds the title of chief world changer. “We just happened to be able to break down the world’s greatest issues into seven causes, seven days in a week, etc.
“It had tons of parallel brand play.”
Partridge, in the hallowed tradition of entrepreneurs, is always looking for an edge and an opportunity. At 26, he already has created and sold a small fitness company, and he currently co-owns a chain of rock climbing gyms in the Inland Empire.
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In Sevenly’s case, it’s nearly 30%. That might seem like a huge cut of revenue, but it’s also a way to generate sales.
“Consumers want to do business with brands who do good,” said Loren Solomon, founder of Advertising for Good, an agency that creates marketing campaigns for nonprofits.
Since launching in June, Sevenly has sold more than 29,000 items and donated more than $200,000 to charities including Cure Childhood in Atlanta; the International Justice Mission, which fights sex trafficking abroad; and Hope International, which provides micro-financing for developing businesses in Africa.
Toms Shoes in Santa Monica is one of the best known companies built on a social-good business model. For every pair of shoes sold, the company — founded in 2006 by Blake Mycoskie — donates a pair for a child in a Third World country.
For some customers, wearing Toms has become as much a fashion statement as a public proclamation that they’re socially responsible.
“It’s cool to be socially good today,” said Aradhna Krishna, a University of Michigan professor who studies cause marketing.
A consumer study last year by the Cone Communications public relations agency found that 80% of those surveyed said they would be likely to switch to a brand associated with a good cause if product price and quality were comparable.
In the 18-to-24 age group — commonly called millennials — 53% had purchased a product or service tied to a cause in the last year.
Sevenly, which has a staff of 12 including the founders, has had $700,000 in sales since its inception, Partridge said. Even with giving away nearly 30% to causes, he said the company makes a small profit.
“We’re not swimming in the green, but we’re doing well,” Partridge said.
The idea for the business was born in Partridge’s living room in Corona in April when he and Chavez, who had dropped out of junior college to become a social media consultant, began brainstorming about how to blend charity, social media and e-commerce.
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Ratner sorry for use of gay slur
Filmmaker Brett Ratner issued an apology Monday for using a gay slur during a question-and-answer session at a screening for his new film, “Tower Heist.”
Responding to a question about rehearsing his actors, the 42-year-old director used a pejorative term to describe gay men.
On Monday, he called the slur “a dumb and outdated way of expressing myself” and said that “as a storyteller I should have been much more thoughtful about the power of language and my choice of words.”
Ratner is set to produce next year’s Academy Awards. Film academy president Tom Sherak called Ratner’s remarks “inappropriate” but said the academy doesn’t plan to remove him from his Oscar-producing position.
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Doctor expects Adele to recover
The doctor who performed surgery on British singer Adele for a benign polyp on her vocal cords says he expects her to make a full recovery.
A statement released by Massachusetts General Hospital, where the singer had surgery, contained the optimistic prognosis from Dr. Steven Zeitels, director of the Massachusetts General hospital Voice Center. It said Zeitels uses specialized lasers to stop vocal cord bleeding in singers. Steven Tyler of Aerosmith was another of his patients; he underwent throat surgery in 2006.
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The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences plans to honor Vanessa Redgrave on Sunday in London, where she is starring with James Earl Jones in the stage production of “Driving Miss Daisy.”
Jones is to receive an honorary Oscar on Saturday at the academy’s Governors Awards, but the 80-year-old actor is skipping that ceremony in Los Angeles to continue the play’s run without interruption.
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