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A Flea In His Ear

     Imagine the fright mask that the Sofitel Hotel maid’s face turned into when a black swan in the form of an international banking poobah waddled out of the suite’s bathroom with wings rampant. Black swans appear now in the unlikeliest places. I bet you a million Euros that Dominque Strauss-Kahn’s lawyer will say that his client was driven mad by relentless, revolving, unresolvable thoughts of Greece, Portugal, Ireland, and Spain, and that he mistook the hotel maid for Greek finance minister George Papaconstantinou. Wasn’t it poor Karl Marx, driven mad first by capital and then by boils, who said, “History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce.” 
     Conveniently, the bedroom farce is something at which the French excel. So much dignity, so little impulse control.  Not to go overboard with quotations right off top, but cuddly ole T.S. Eliot famously informed us that “…this is the way the world ends, not with a bang but with a whimper.”  I suspect the whimper was emitted by DSK in his Harlem jail cell when he discovered that the standard Sunday morning breakfast issued by the New York City Department of Corrections is a baloney sandwich. Quelle horreur! A French convict serving thirty years for tunneling into a Toulon bank gets a brioche, at least!
      The question all this raises is: can you think of any other high-up officials, say in American finance or banking, who have tried to jam their generative member someplace it was not exactly invited? I can think of a few, starting with, oh, Hank Paulson. He stuck it to a couple hundred million US taxpayers and is now scott-free in the marshes of Maryland pursuing his beloved wild birds with the Swarovski EL 8×32 binoculars ($1,879.00, retail w/discount) and the excellent Sibley field guide. Only a week or so ago Senator Carl Levin’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations sent a bill of particulars to the US Department of Justice outlining the spectacular misdeeds of Goldman Sachs executives Lloyd Blankfein and Daniel Sparks, et. al, alleged to have performed a kind anal rape on customers who did not have that kind of “yield” in mind when they came through the door at 200 West Street. Sources tell me that Attorney General Eric Holder has been using the report as a cocktail coaster.
     One poor slob, Raj Rajaratnam of the Galleon Group hedge fund was convicted in a federal court last week for plain old insider trading, something a child of seven could understand. With a little luck, Raj will join Bernie Madoff’s round-robin ping-pong caucus at the federal penitentiary in Butner, NC, and the days will seem to fly by. Apparently the scams that went down at Goldman Sachs and lots of other so-called banks were too complex for rafts of regulators and federal attorneys to figure out. But you never know. If DSK was too dim to hire a nice discreet $1500-an-hour hooker prior to his unspeakably tedious business-class flight back to Paris, then maybe Lloyd Blankfein will fly out of a broom closet in Jackson Hole this summer dressed like Norman Bates’s mother and commence to paddle Ben Bernanke with a 10-inch chef’s knife. One can only hope.
     You can’t blame regular folks for not knowing what the heck to pay attention to these days. Most of the US public is not preoccupied with the doings of the Greek finance ministry, the IMF, foreign bond spreads, CDS ratios, and the spooky action in the commodities pits. Especially not with Big Muddy rising and all those oil refineries waiting downstream like so many cypress stumps, not to mention two nuke plants at River Bend and Waterford, Louisiana. Wouldn’t that make some hot gumbo?
     While I feel for the people fleeing their homes down there, I have a feeling that this week’s action will be set in the more abstruse precincts around European finance. With DSK on ice in Harlem, who will coordinate the beating out of brushfires that could burn down the European banking system? Remember, it’s not about the countries. They’ll still be there. The goats will still be grazing in wild thyme on the Greek hillsides no matter what happens in some Frankfurt board room. The layabouts will still be at their tables in the Lisbon café. But the Société Générale and Commerzbank AG could go up in a vapor faster than you can say Dominque Strauss-Kahn. The great rattling fear that lives within European business minds is that the whole bloody system is flat broke and any interruption to the daisy-chain of revolving obligations will reveal the awful naked truth – perhaps like seeing DSK fly out of the hotel bathroom with his florid organ aloft and a wicked gleam in his eyes. 
     Anyway you cut it, it can’t be a good week for the Euro. But with all currencies spiraling towards worthlessness, and even gold and silver hemorrhaging value, what is the world of money coming to? Maybe the stuff is obsolete. If you wait three weeks, you’ll be able to walk into any Wal-Mart and just pick up the stuff you want for free. Until it’s all gone.
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443 Responses to “A Flea In His Ear”

  1. Joe May 16, 2011 at 9:30 am #

    First!

  2. layaway May 16, 2011 at 9:32 am #

    “While I feel for the people fleeing their homes down there…”
    Really? The NASCAR, cheese doodle eating bunch? Go figure.

  3. mow May 16, 2011 at 9:35 am #

    are we at war with france yet ?

  4. kulturcritic* May 16, 2011 at 9:36 am #

    Well James, it looks like the French have gotten their panties in a bunch over claims that their future head, who now heads the IMF, was caught getting head in NYC; while the rest of the world is calling for Obama’s head for taking out the head of al-Qaeda last week. Just too many heads around here; too many emperors. The whole mess is becoming quite distracting, as the collapse of Western Civilization continues. I have been asked on any number of occasions to say what we can do to find our way through this maze, this “long emergency.” In the spirit in which the request has been made, I offer the following reflections. Please enjoy it, James. As always, the kulturCritic!!
    http://wp.me/P1lJ1g-9h

  5. My a$$ May 16, 2011 at 9:37 am #

    How can an individual household become energy independent? In the 1960s, Jean Pain achieved it by using composted wood chips to heat water, power his truck, and generate electricity. The leftover compost made excellent fertilizer for his vegetable garden.
    The Jean Pain method is demonstrated in these two videos:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHRvwNJRNag
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCj7NA0OIs

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  6. Michael Rothman May 16, 2011 at 9:43 am #

    Gives whole new meaning to M. Taibbi’s ‘vampire squid.’

  7. Jimmy Drinkwater May 16, 2011 at 9:44 am #

    Heh, I heard the maid was from Greece.

  8. topcog May 16, 2011 at 9:44 am #

    Most folks I talk to are totally oblivious to what goes on in the state, let alone the country and especially the rest of the world. We are now basking in the afterglow of a nickle drop in gas prices. The price of glowing corn is on the rise, same with soybeans, and they’re all worried about trimming the edges with their $500 whirly machines to make the lawn perfect. In the meantime, I’m seeing lots of the old 5’s, 10’s and 20’s (you know the ones with the small pictures and numbers)come across my flea market table having been in storage for years. With nothing much left they are now being robbed from the jar and spent on some necessary items like food. My garden gets bigger every year and the neighbors think I’m nuts. So be it. Keep up the sarcasm , please.

  9. Sparrow May 16, 2011 at 9:45 am #

    Please, if you have nothing useful to say; say nothing. To all of you “First!”, “No, I was first!” or “Third!” idiots: GROW UP! Or at the very least, take the time to read Jim’s blog before posting comments.
    Sincerely,
    A.V.
    on behalf of all the mature people trying to read Kunstler’s blog and the worthwhile comments.

  10. loveday May 16, 2011 at 9:46 am #

    Hey Jim
    What great theater ole Dom is putting on, you just can’t make this stuff up! What a hoot, the dude probably has more money than the Lloyd Blanfein and can’t be bothered getting a “respectable madam” to take care of his, ahem, “needs” or just plain keep his pants zipped. I saw an article on Global Research that speculated that this was a “soft assasination” similar to the Elliot Spitzer thing. Wonder who he ticked off? As for the Euro I don’t think there is much doubt that a default will eventually occur in the Zone. I look to the Irish to follow Iceland’s example, they have lots of experience with colonial oppression and the IMF and the euro central bank are pushing just that- modern day indentured servitude for entire nations.
    The Mississippi situation looks pretty nasty especially for crops in the area, anyone have any idea how much food the flooded areas usually produced? Undoubtedly food prices will continue to soar. Let’s just hope the nukes down that way are properly handled or New Orleans will be permanently singing the blues.

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  11. Solar Guy May 16, 2011 at 9:46 am #

    “You can’t blame regular folks for not knowing what the heck to pay attention to these days”
    “what is the world of money coming to? Maybe the stuff is obsolete.”

    My newest advice is to GET LOCAL. Do it now. That is how it will probably play out?
    Was in a car for over 6 hours yesterday. Memorial service stuff… I tried to enjoy being on the road knowing those days are numbered…
    MAD MAX DREAMING, GAS GUZZLER HATING, RECOVERING OIL ADDICT…
    – Solar Guy, on the roof for now…and shamelessly pedaling my semi-illegal electric bike in the streets…

  12. tspanacea May 16, 2011 at 9:48 am #

    Hmmmmm. Several weeks ago: IMF forecasts China to overtake USA as largest economy by 2016. Since then markets get squirrelly (see: silver, et al.). Maybe investors started thinking they should move their money from U.S. markets to Asian, sooner rather than later??? Now: IMF chief arrested and jailed, pretty obviously going to be replaced. Does give one pause, but then again that would bring the words ‘conspiracy theory’ to one’s lips and I know that’s an unwelcome phrase on this blog……….

  13. empirestatebuilding May 16, 2011 at 9:50 am #

    Free Stuff at Walmart! Hot Dog! I’ll be first on line seeing how I am sleeping in my camper van in the parking lot of one in Levittown. I am heading straight for the plastic flower aisle. One can never have enough plastic flowers in your camper van. I better get some air fresheners too. It is starting to stink in my crib. It will be hard to sleep away the day dreaming of all the free stuff I’ll be looting.
    Aimlow Joe was here.
    http://www.aimlow.com

  14. Jimmy Drinkwater May 16, 2011 at 9:52 am #

    [i]- Solar Guy, on the roof for now…and shamelessly pedaling my semi-illegal electric bike in the streets…[/i]
    Shamelessly pedaling my legal ICE motorized bike on the streets.
    http://www.alttransbikes.blogspot.com

  15. layaway May 16, 2011 at 9:52 am #

    “Please, if you have nothing useful to say; say nothing. ”
    As if your comment was useful?

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  16. upstater May 16, 2011 at 9:55 am #

    It is right and just for Raj Rajaratnam to face a sentence 15 years for insider trading but…
    One has to wonder of this brown skinned man simply wasn’t part of the right clubs to avoid prosecution. What he did is simply BAU.
    The avarice of the moneyed classes is amazing. Perhaps when the screws get so tightened that X-Boxes, cell service, cable, cheez doodles and pepsi are no longer affordable we’ll finally get our Arab Spring.
    Let’s just hope that Sarah Palin or Paul Ryan are not at the head.

  17. bubbleheadMarc May 16, 2011 at 9:59 am #

    Yea verily we are in a shit sandwhich one and all both here and in the Euro zone. As a recovering flying saucer literature addict I am reminded that the “contactees” are unanimous on one issue and that is money, specifically that the presumably more socially advanced space brothers do not have money and have evolved beyond capitalism. No problem, that step in human evolution should only take about another 2,000 years…in the meantime I will continue planning to drop out of society once I am finished taking care of my elderly relatives here at the do-it-yourself nursing home in an inner-ring suburb of a decaying steel town which is the junior partner of Detroit, currently being colonized by Pittsburgh interests, where J.D. Rockefeller got his start in the oil refining business and where the auto industry was born which is why we have such a good automotive museum, namely…the mistake by the lake where a brand of beer has been named after the Burning River, you guessed it, come on now you know, we’re at least as screwed up as those towns on the New York State Barge Canal, yes, Cleveland!

  18. suburbcyclist May 16, 2011 at 9:59 am #

    “nice,discreet, $1500 an hour hooker” was the first thing I thought of when I heard about this idiot. Really goes to show what type of people are running this world. Penny wise, pound foolish.

  19. Sparrow May 16, 2011 at 10:01 am #

    Thanks for pointing that out; of course it wasn’t useful, I was just getting exasperated…
    You know, I could throw your own words “As if your comment was useful?” back at you, but I’ve got better things to do than continue this argument! 🙂

  20. layaway May 16, 2011 at 10:05 am #

    “…but I’ve got better things to do than continue this argument!”
    Sure you do.

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  21. noel bodie May 16, 2011 at 10:12 am #

    I’d say DSK is more Fido than Feydeau, a real dog of the IMF lifting his leg on every poor country unlucky enough to need a bank loan.

  22. lbendet May 16, 2011 at 10:14 am #

    Really funny, JHK, if it weren’t so pathetic, that is
    One can only hope that the whole globalist seamless banking system ideology will go down in flames, and we won’t have to keep bailing European banks out ad infinitum. But I don’t know whether we’ll be so lucky, even with all the misdeeds and mishaps of these losers who think they’re bigger than life. The question is always how much more stress can it take before everyone recognizes it’s over.
    On Mish Shedlock Global Economic Trend analysis is a great entry today. I was checking it for yesterday’s suggestion of Goldman Sachs people being put into Bernanke’s position et al. in other words corporate facsism.
    The very people who have influenced economic policy makers to change the laws, but today’s post is speaking more directly to your post.:
    Huge Cracks in Global Recovery Thesis; Industrial Production Unexpectedly Drops in Germany, France; UK Weaker than Expected.
    I wonder what maneuvers the Bilderberg will come up with in their June meeting to keep the system with no future going…
    In the meantime, yes some in Louisiana have become the sacrificial lambs for the greater good. I hope this government has a plan to help them out when this is done. I can’t help but think that hurricane season hasn’t even begun and what’s in store for us this year.
    What’s our calamity de l’annee going to be?

  23. layaway May 16, 2011 at 10:16 am #

    ”Really goes to show what type of people are running this world. Penny wise, pound foolish.”
    Ah, excuse me? You are suggesting that the act of rape has a currency exchange equivalency? Are you fucking crazy?
    This is the same shit that has been going on unchallenged for far too long. “It doesn’t matter what a person does or how they act in their private life.” the argument is made. Un huh. Sure it doesn’t. You can act like a fucking monster behind closed doors and still be President or the head of the IMF. Not a problem. How provincial to think otherwise.

  24. budizwiser May 16, 2011 at 10:18 am #

    Speaking of DSK – should we go ahead and make these kinds of setups a working verb?
    Maybe I’m paranoid but I think poor old Dominque Strauss-Kahn has been “Spitzered.”

  25. rippedthunder May 16, 2011 at 10:24 am #

    Dominque Strauss-Kahnin his best Marlon Brando voice “Go get the butter”

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  26. Zaax May 16, 2011 at 10:26 am #

    Hey, the Swarovski binocs are a very fine product. On the other hand I have a pair of Leica 8×32’s. Great for birding and might come in handy after the Great Unraveling starts.

  27. layaway May 16, 2011 at 10:26 am #

    “”Go get the butter””
    Hello…. Anyone there? Its called “rape”. It isn’t a movie. It isn’t funny.

  28. michael_in_adelaide May 16, 2011 at 10:29 am #

    Hej – it’s fun to laugh at Dominque Strauss-Kahn but there are many (including his wife) who suspect he may have been set up for French political reasons (or maybe because the IMF is increasingly sympathetic to the idea of peak oil?) After all, accusations of sexual impropriety tend to stick and cause reputation damage even if false. Remember Assange?

  29. layaway May 16, 2011 at 10:30 am #

    “Maybe I’m paranoid but I think poor old Dominque Strauss-Kahn has been “Spitzered.””
    And what would “spritzered” indicate? Eliot “the fuck” Spritzer was using the services of prostitutes while prosecuting others for using the services of prostitutes. Eliot “Spritzered” his fucking self. He is a douchebag. And the fact that a news channel gave this piece of fuck a TV show tells you a little something about the current state of our nation.

  30. rippedthunder May 16, 2011 at 10:32 am #

    It wasn’t a rape in the movie, and this story smells as bad as the OBL tall tale. This guy was definitly “Spitzered.” Someone needed him out of the picture.

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  31. layaway May 16, 2011 at 10:37 am #

    “This guy was definitly “Spitzered.”
    Definitely. No question about it. (MORON)

  32. Jimmy Drinkwater May 16, 2011 at 10:38 am #

    “Hello…. Anyone there? Its called “rape”. It isn’t a movie. It isn’t funny”
    It’s called an allegation and then police investigate.
    Lighten up.

  33. layaway May 16, 2011 at 10:38 am #

    “It wasn’t a rape in the movie…”
    No shit fucktard. So why the analogy?

  34. GAbert May 16, 2011 at 10:39 am #

    What do you want to bet somebody down at Foggy Bottom makes a few phone calls and Dominque Strauss-Kahn gets let go for “lack of evidence”?
    http://www.gwabert.com/

  35. rippedthunder May 16, 2011 at 10:39 am #

    So police officers never drive while intoxicated? They still arrest people for DUI all the time. Shit I know lots of them and they are some of the best drunks around. It doesn’t make them bad people, they deal with a lot of shit.

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  36. layaway May 16, 2011 at 10:45 am #

    “It’s called an allegation and then police investigate.”
    Indeed. And the allegation is rape. Read up a little. This maid was at the employ of the hotel for three years. Her supervisors have stepped forward and said her service and word are impeccable.
    This French clown (it is alleged) left his cell phone and personal items in his room and fled to the airport.

  37. rippedthunder May 16, 2011 at 10:46 am #

    Hey layaway
    just goaway
    give me shit
    an I bust yo lip
    I may soun’ crude
    I’m in no mood
    the clouds an’ rain
    are causin’ pain
    my stuff don’t grow
    I be layin’ low.
    not much to do
    but fuk wid u

  38. layaway May 16, 2011 at 10:49 am #

    “So police officers never drive while intoxicated? They still arrest people for DUI all the time. Shit I know lots of them and they are some of the best drunks around. It doesn’t make them bad people…”
    No, you’re right. Getting behind the wheel while intoxicated makes you a GOOD person.

  39. layaway May 16, 2011 at 10:51 am #

    “Hey layaway
    just goaway”
    Sure I will “rip”. I know “rip” be bad so I’ll go into hiding.

  40. Jimmy Drinkwater May 16, 2011 at 10:53 am #

    It’s called an allegation and then police investigate.
    “Indeed. And the allegation is rape. Read up a little. This maid was at the employ of the hotel for three years. Her supervisors have stepped forward and said her service and word are impeccable.
    This French clown (it is alleged) left his cell phone and personal items in his room and fled to the airport.”
    Well good, no need for any further investigation nor a trial I guess then.
    Next case! lol

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  41. SNAFU May 16, 2011 at 10:54 am #

    Right you are Jim to hope the Nuclear power plants at River Bend and Waterford, Louisiana are safe considering:
    With all of the cock-ups holding sway in the news of late I imagine it has been somewhat difficult to notice the articles in which the Japanese Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) ruefully admitted to the Japanese Government/populace that it appears three of the Fukushima reactors sustained “partial” meltdown of their reactor cores, as a result of the loss of electrical power, subsequent to the earthquake and tsunami of 11Mar2011. Interestingly TEPCO now estimates the core in Unit 1 had likely completely collapsed into a mass at the bottom of the steel pressure vessel within 16 hours of the earthquake; apparently the data to ascertain the time frame for the “partial” meltdown of the cores in Units 2&3 is not sufficient. Contrary to rational thought TEPCO continues to maintain that they will have all 6 reactors at Fukushima safely powered down by their projected January 2012 time frame, irrespective of their latest admission of far greater damage to units 1,2&3 than they had been purporting. Was the information available to special interests such as the US? Perhaps that explains why Americans were advised to stay at least 50 miles away from the Fukushima reactors right from the get go. The Japanese are now being evacuated to somewhat beyond 30 kilometers (about 18.6 miles) as of Sunday 15May2011. Now this: “May 16 (Reuters) – Moody’s Investors Service cut its credit rating on Tokyo Electric Power to one notch above junk status, saying damage at its crippled nuclear plant was worse than previously thought”.
    SNAFU

  42. rippedthunder May 16, 2011 at 10:58 am #

    A french clown? here is an Italian Clown.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWINtUCshxY

  43. Omar Bongo May 16, 2011 at 11:01 am #

    “but I’ve got better things to do than continue this argument!”
    No you don’t. You are an annoying idiot. You were born to encourage the rest of these twits.
    Wake up. Nobody “mature” posts here anymore. Grow up.

  44. layaway May 16, 2011 at 11:02 am #

    “Well good, no need for any further investigation nor a trial I guess then.”
    And of course we can just label it “Spitzered” and move on?
    You are making my point. The first round on this site was to downplay the horrific nature of rape. It was just a transaction gone wrong. He is being framed, etc. etc. The NYC police had this guy dragged off of a jet. They normally don’t do something quite that drastic on a whim. Especially if it is someone with this fine gentleman’s international reputation.

  45. jerry May 16, 2011 at 11:02 am #

    HI Jim,
    I personally like the National Geographic field guide the most.
    If we are lucky, we might hear about Hanksta Paulson being pulled overboard by a flock of a herons wanting to drown their stalker.
    You are so right, where do we look first. There is just so much out there to over stimulate even the likes of DSK. That could be his defense—“I was just over stimulated. My body was overflowing with nerve impulses I could not control because the world is collapsing around me. I needed to just beach myself upon the nearest sandbar and she was it!”
    It just might work!!! Remember, BillyBoy said that he did not have sex with that woman, and that sorta worked.
    I do believe since most Americans are content with their water being poisoned by toxic fracking fluids, and would rather watch old reruns of Mr. Ed while eating Cheez Curls, in their recliners stuck in recline, and sipping big cans of Zero One, then the rest of us would better just wait for the big tent to fall to the ground.
    http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com
    http://moontownshippa.blogspot.com

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  46. WestCoast May 16, 2011 at 11:05 am #

    No sympathy for the money tribe and their banking minions but isn’t it strange that those who challenge the hegemony of the U.S. banking system and Wall Street seem to get nailed on sex charges?
    Elliot Spitzer had just sent out a letter to all the states’ attorneys general asking for their cooperation in investigating Wall Street when surprise! They discovered he had been consorting with prostitutes!
    We know about keeping Bill Clinton in line with Miss Monica’s Lips.
    Then there is that Swedish Guy and his damn Wikileaks…rape charge for not calling her the next day…
    Then there is the former Naval Intelligence guy that predicted 9/11 in print…doing 360 years for child pornography.
    How many more can you think of?
    And the beat goes on….

  47. Loveandlight May 16, 2011 at 11:06 am #

    It really came off as though you were just kind of rambling in this one. Hopefully that means you had more important things on your mind today. 😉

  48. WestCoast May 16, 2011 at 11:10 am #

    If they go get the butter, it’s obviously consent.

  49. layaway May 16, 2011 at 11:12 am #

    If they go get the butter, it’s obviously consent.
    And?

  50. WestCoast May 16, 2011 at 11:17 am #

    “OUI-OUI-OUI-OUI”

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  51. rippedthunder May 16, 2011 at 11:23 am #

    Mornin’ jerry, I believe Jimbo prefers the cheeze doodles more than the curls. :0) I am really bored. I have so much shit to do outside and this rain sucks. I feel for my friends living by the mighty Missisip.

  52. Paul Kemp May 16, 2011 at 11:31 am #

    While we spend our precious time speculating whether DSK did it or didn’t, this “10 minute hate” serves its purpose of distracting the world from the latest “topic du jour” of orchestrated public opinion — the Bin Laden assassination which has begun to raise too many embarrassing questions.
    Time for a new distraction!
    Don’t fall for it. It all serves to keep the unwary from noticing their health, money, and freedom being taken from them everyday for the profit of people like DSK, Blankfein, and the rest.
    Prepare Now: http://tinyurl.com/2vmjbsk

  53. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 11:37 am #

    “The Obama administration will begin to tap federal retiree programs to help fund operations after the government loses its ability Monday to borrow more money from the public, adding urgency to efforts in Washington to fashion a compromise over the debt.”
    Pensions? So Timmy and Obammy are going after pensions? Whats next? Firstborn?
    Story here:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/treasury-to-tap-pensions-to-help-fund-government/2011/05/15/AF2fqK4G_story.html?hpid=z1

  54. wagelaborer May 16, 2011 at 11:37 am #

    My Facebook friend linked to an interesting article. Lookee here – at one point Texas oil men admitted that oil was a limited resource and should be conserved. I guess they didn’t know then that the Earth was just a oil-filled shell of rocks and soil.
    “Large oil companies in Texas such as Humble Oil were in favour of prorationing and Sterling came under great pressure to intervene. On 16th August, 1931, Sterling declared martial law in Rusk, Upshur, Gregg and Smith counties. In his proclamation Sterling declared that the independent oil producers in these counties were “in a state of insurrection” and that the “reckless and illegal exploitation of (oil) must be stopped until such time as the said resources may be properly conserved and developed under the protection of the civil authorities”.
    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKoildepletion.htm

  55. barbarena May 16, 2011 at 11:41 am #

    Name-takers should get the name right: it’s Dominique (second “i” between “n” and “q”)

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  56. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 11:41 am #

    “The courts ruled that Sterling had exceeded his authority by the declaration of martial law and he was easily defeated by Miriam A. Ferguson when he attempted to be elected for a second term as governor.”
    Next.

  57. wagelaborer May 16, 2011 at 11:44 am #

    Now that was funny!

  58. helen highwater May 16, 2011 at 11:48 am #

    Does anybody else wonder if this could have been a setup? Or I am the only conspiracy freak here?

  59. Patrizia May 16, 2011 at 11:49 am #

    I agree.
    When they want to get rid of somebody there is the old, simple, mostly always working way…
    And men always fall…they always think of themselves as “too smart OR TOO IMPORTANT to be caught”

  60. helen highwater May 16, 2011 at 11:53 am #

    Careful layaway, I can see you’re starting to go over the edge again. Did you take your meds this morning?

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  61. wagelaborer May 16, 2011 at 11:55 am #

    My point wasn’t about the attempt to corner the market in oil by the big oilmen.
    My point was the rhetoric they used.
    They don’t use rhetoric like that anymore.
    My latest New Yorker had an ad with a Fox Newsworthy blonde bimbo’s picture, announcing that the US has enough natural gas for 100 years!
    All we have to do to get it is poison our water supply! (OK, that wasn’t part of the ad).
    Well, we had more than 100 years of easy to get oil. Our 100 years are up.
    Now what?
    We can see what. Pollute the Gulf of Mexico, destroy the Alaskan frontier, rip up Alberta the way the Appalachian mountains are being ripped up, bomb and invade Middle Eastern countries.
    Pretty pathetic. As well as a crime against humanity and the entire ecosystem we evolved into.

  62. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 12:00 pm #

    “Pretty pathetic.”
    And you are proposing we do what? I mean to keep the lights on for 350 million people. Windmills? Yeah that’ll work.

  63. Neon Vincent May 16, 2011 at 12:08 pm #

    You’re in fine form today, especially when you teased your readers with the promise of a violent sex scene, just as you did when you posted the excerpt from the opening of “The Witch of Hebron.” I found your description of mature foreplay very exciting. But it was only a tease. While the appetizer was sex, the main course was violence–violence over money, at that. All you were missing was religion, and I know you have that covered later in the novel.
    I’m surprised you didn’t mention that Deutsche Bank was being prosecuted. At first blush, that might have fouled up your argument, but it would have still worked as the exception the proves the rule. After all, it’s still not a U.S. bank; as you’ve noted, the leaders of what Matt Taibbi call Griftopia are still free men. Meanwhile, Eliot Spitzer, speaking of discreet $1500/hour hookers, is hosting his own show on CNN instead of serving in government where he could prosecute misbehaving bankers. Imagine him instead of Holder as Attorney General, then weep because it will never happen.
    On the subject of effective regulators, Elizabeth Warren’s nomination to run the Consumer Protection Agency is being held up by lawmakers who consider the banks to be their constituents, not the ordinary people. Those of you who wish to support her nomination can surf over to coffeepartyusa.com and look for the cartoon of Ms. Warren as a Jedi. There, you will find a link to a letter you can use to contact your Senator. You can also search for “We Want Elizabeth Warren” on Facebook, where you can find that same link.
    More than just terrible news for the bankers occured last week. The U.S. and China held the third annual U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue. That event seemed to not even produce a blip on the mainstream media’s radar. I had to find out about it by crusing through Purdue University’s press releases, where the Boilermakers PR department crowed about how their institution of higher learning was selected for a U.S.-China EcoPartnership. I blogged about that story at Crazy Eddie’s Motie News as U.S.-China EcoPartnerships: The CoDominion plans for sustainability, where I wrote:

    If you want to see one vision of the future, that’s it right there; the U.S. and China running the world together. That would be eerily appropriate, as the inspiration for this blog, “The Mote in God’s Eye,” takes place in the far future of Jerry Pournelle’s CoDominion timeline. During the early part of that timeline, the Earth of the 21st Century is being ruled by the two major powers. Of course, in those stories, the powers are the US and USSR, but substituting China for the now-defunct USSR works just as well, if not better.

    Notice that it was the third annual U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue. That means that these conferences began in 2009, when the current administration took over. That may not continue in an adminstration run by a different party. One headed by what Kunstler calls “corn-pone fascists” might be less inclined to cooperate with China and more likely to fight with them.

    I’m glad the CoDominion is paying attention to the health of the planet. After all, if there is no environment, there is no society. If there is no society, there is no economy. If there is no economy, there are no politics or power. Those last two are what the CoDominion will really be about.

    Jim may scoff at these agreements; after all, they’re for a future that he doesn’t see as likely to happen. Even so, one should be aware of what could happen in the other possibilities for our future, and who is planning for them.

  64. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 12:09 pm #

    “A local official of the Socialist party claimed that Strauss-Kahn had attacked her daughter, who is goddaughter to Strauss-Kahn’s second wife, in 2002.
    Tristane Banon was in her 20s and writing a book when she approached Strauss-Kahn for an interview in 2002. In a TV programme in 2007, in which Strauss-Kahn’s name had been bleeped out, Banon allegedly described him as a “rutting chimpanzee” and described how she was forced to fight him off. “It finished badly … very violently … I kicked him,” Banon said. “When we were fighting, I mentioned the word ‘rape’ to make him afraid, but it didn’t have any effect. I managed to get out.”
    Banon consulted a lawyer, but did not press charges. “I didn’t want to be known to the end of my days as the girl who had a problem with the politician.”
    Banon’s mother, Anne Mansouret, told journalists on Sunday night she had dissuaded her daughter from legal action because she believed Strauss-Kahn’s behaviour had been out of character and because of close links with his family. “Today I am sorry to have discouraged my daughter from complaining. I bear a heavy responsibility,” she said.”

  65. loveday May 16, 2011 at 12:15 pm #

    I agree SNAFU
    The whole Fukushima catastrophe has been brushed under the carpet by the mainstream media. I have to wonder why, this event has so many ramifications, the least of which as I have said in the past on this website is the economic fallout.
    Maybe one reason for that is that the Japanese are so embarrassed to announce to the world press that the latest brainstorming solution they have come up with to contain the radiation is a polyester tent! I mean please pinch me, can they be serious?
    When compared with the Russian response to Chernobyl they really look like bumbling idiots!
    Which brings up my next question- Where is the international response team? Obviously the Japanese simply can’t deal with the problems on their own. And since this disaster will have long term negative global effects I think such a team would be warranted. Maybe the UN or WHO could put some of the dues they get from countries around the world to good use-like protecting the planet.
    Oh well, remember Obama has tucked about 37 billion dollars into his budget for the nuclear energy industry. Could that be the reason for the media silence? mmmmmmm

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  66. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 12:17 pm #

    “Meanwhile, Eliot Spitzer, speaking of discreet $1500/hour hookers, is hosting his own show on CNN instead of serving in government…”
    Why the fuck should this piece of shit be serving in government? He WAS serving in government. While serving in government he broke the fucking law. He is lucky he is not serving “time” in fucking Leavenworth.

  67. Al Klein May 16, 2011 at 12:17 pm #

    It would seem that DS-K is a bad choice for any top position, such as head of the IMF. If he actually did sexually assault the maid, then he is certainly disqualified. However, if he was framed, i.e. set up, then he should have known better. Surely a fellow with his connections and background should be aware of exactly how far his detractors will go to discredit him! We should be shocked either by his incredible chutpah or his gross naivete. One way or the other, this event gives us “little people” a peek into the mindset of the high-flyers.

  68. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 12:20 pm #

    Indiana Supreme Court: Police can enter a home for any reason or no reason at all. Resistance is not only futile but illegal. Thus our Bill of Rights has been pruned by one and the tradition of Common Law dating back to the Magna Carta abrogated.

  69. Cash May 16, 2011 at 12:21 pm #

    DSK is/was a member of the Socialist Party wasn’t he? I’ll bet his rivals inside and outside the party are having a good chuckle over this mess. Sarkozy too maybe. One rival as gone as can be. Even if he beats the rap are the French so tolerant as to let something like this go? Especially as this the second accusation against him of this nature.

  70. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 12:24 pm #

    This will no doubt turn out to be only the tip of the iceberg. He has probably done this kind of thing many times. That he tried with a daughter of a friend has already come out. How can all this be? Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac for one thing. And the super rich can get away with alot. Put these two together and you get a recipe for the creation of monsters.

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  71. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 12:24 pm #

    “Especially as this the second accusation against him of this nature.”
    Naw. He was FRAMED. Both times. Vote DSK For a Better Tomorrow!

  72. Preparation-oucH May 16, 2011 at 12:27 pm #

    Wasn’t it poor Karl Marx, driven mad first by capital and then by boils, who said, “History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce.”

    The opening lines of “The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte” by Karl Marx:

    Hegel remarks somewhere that all great, world-historical facts and personages occur, as it were, twice. He has forgotten to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce.

  73. wagelaborer May 16, 2011 at 12:27 pm #

    I mentioned last month that the documentary “Freedom Riders” was shown at our local community theater, because one of our Green Party members was on the first bus.
    It’s on PBS tonight.
    Saturday, Amy Goodman came to town and interviewed my friend. So she should be on Democracy Now one of these days.

  74. loveday May 16, 2011 at 12:27 pm #

    Hey Jerry
    I gotta good trip for the Hanksta- how about a little duck hunting with good ole snarlin Dick. That could provide some really interesting newscasts. Maybe even better than randy Dom’s.

  75. wagelaborer May 16, 2011 at 12:32 pm #

    Yep, I’m proposing that we switch to renewable energy.
    It may not keep all the lights on that we currently (ha,ha) keep on, but it will keep the essential ones on.
    The US wastes electricity, and then announces that we must poison the environment to continue to do so.
    I reject that.
    No more open freezers at the grocery, no more electric doors for every damn place, no more lights on all night, no more Las Vegas style excess, no more artificial snow for ski resorts, no more air conditioned super malls, and so on.

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  76. JonathanSS May 16, 2011 at 12:36 pm #

    And you are proposing we do what?

    You need suggestions or are do you just want to vent? Try cutting your household energy use in half, ditch all your ICE toys, ride a bike and, if you have land, get some calories from it.

  77. loveday May 16, 2011 at 12:36 pm #

    Vlad
    I saw that, simply incredible! But think of the money and energy that will be wasted fighting to overturn this ruling. Talk about a distraction- the PTB use junk like this as a smoke screen so they can get on with the business of fleecing the world in peace. Move along nothing to see here.

  78. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 12:40 pm #

    “No more open freezers at the grocery, no more electric doors for every damn place, no more lights on all night, no more Las Vegas style excess, no more artificial snow for ski resorts, no more air conditioned super malls, and so on.”
    I’m no fan of the amount of energy that is wasted but your renewables won’t come close to providing our most basic needs. Renewables are a mere drop in the bucket of our total energy input. We need to cut any and all waste while tapping into all forms of energy while protecting the environment to the best of our abilities. There is no alternative. At this time and place using only renewables is a pipe dream.

  79. progressorconserve May 16, 2011 at 12:43 pm #

    Nice piece of writing for us this week, JHK.
    If have to say that it’s possible that DSK was framed. Anything sex related is the best “framing charge” in the US.
    It arouses the same level of citizen outrage as does naming your teddy bear Mohammed in certain jurisdictions in the Middle East.
    ==============
    On another note, I will offer a heads-up to the discussion thread that TootSie appears to be making another incarnation as lil’jim.
    Either “layaway” was banned, or soon will be.
    Same pattern – lots of posts early on Monday, lots of defense of right wing talking points, lots of use of the word “fuck” as insult and invective.
    He’s one of the resident Trolls, and best left unfed.
    Talk about him. Don’t talk to him.
    It never seems to end well.
    Everybody have a great Monday!

  80. JonathanSS May 16, 2011 at 12:44 pm #

    I’m interested to know your opinion of the “sovereign citizen” movement, as presented on “60 Minutes” last night.
    Regards,
    JSS

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  81. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 12:45 pm #

    “Try cutting your household energy use in half, ditch all your ICE toys, ride a bike and, if you have land, get some calories from it.”
    Not sure what ICE toys are but I have a bike I use, have been gardening for over 40 years and am a son-of-a-bitch when members of my household leave lights burning. But that doesn’t mean dick. We can’t pretend that windmills and tide generators are going to be enough. They aren’t. We’ll need to conserve and put to work all forms of energy.

  82. JonathanSS May 16, 2011 at 12:48 pm #

    ICE = Internal Combustion Engines
    Thanks for your response.

  83. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 12:49 pm #

    “…lots of defense of right wing talking points, lots of use of the word “fuck” as insult and invective.”
    Of course this is horrendous on a forum that is called, what is it again? Oh yea…Cluster F-U-C-K. I’m guessing you are kidding?

  84. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 12:51 pm #

    “… lots of defense of right wing talking point…”
    Hmmm? And that would be that rape is wrong? And that is “right wing”? Holly fucking shit, this world has come to that.

  85. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 12:54 pm #

    “Thanks for your response.”
    Actually, you aren’t welcome. You seemed to be lecturing me not having a clue as to how I conduct my life. Rather presumptuous.

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  86. JulettaofOhio May 16, 2011 at 12:59 pm #

    Goodness! A tinge of sympathy for the backward southener today??? No mention of conspiracy in the blowing up of the white farmer’s fields in order to save 2,800 Illinois blacks in Cairo… Which is more valuable to our country??? Is our bankrupt government going to reimburse the farm community or is it just collateral damage in our current race-ecosystem-funny money melt down? Also, why flood out a distinct racial/cultural group such as Cajun Louisiana in order to save the shit-hole New Orleans, still about as mired in mud and tragedy as Haiti? Bush may have been slow in helping the victims of Katrina, but his help was not requested by the state. You can’t say that about Obama who just barges in when no one wants him. Who’s he going to blame when there is a rice shortage for export and home country useage? Let’s see….how can this be turned into Bush’s fault???? We’re draining our IRA and taking a hit if Geithner rapes the governement pensions. I don’t trust any of these greedy, racist pigs currently in power.

  87. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 1:01 pm #

    Just what we need: another rutting chimpanzee as a world leader.

  88. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 1:01 pm #

    “Goodness! A tinge of sympathy for the backward southener today???”
    It was truly sincere, was it not?

  89. Schwerpunkt May 16, 2011 at 1:06 pm #

    Wow. How does the world keep turning up the craxy?
    http://schwerpunkter.wordpress.com/

  90. Neon Vincent May 16, 2011 at 1:08 pm #

    I agree. I was going to respond to him, but then read all of his other responses and then yours. I think he should go elsewhere for his appointment at the Argument Clinic.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

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  91. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 1:13 pm #

    I saw it. The Father and Son definitely seemed trigger happy. Taking a human life is very serious thing and not to be done lightly. Yet at the same time, the guru figure made alot of sense. The second ammendment is not about hunting but about empowerment. And he’s simply right: the Founders said the best goverment is that which governs least – and that they should be afraid of the people not the people afraid of them. So when and where do we draw the line? I think we are going to have to alot of martyrs before the People see what the score is. Random acts of personal honor will just be seen as craziness and evil at this point – even if the victim was in the right.
    Ask Wage: she’s been writing about this stuff for months. And as a Communist, she certainly believes in violence.
    From Rush: Trumpeador not to run. He and Huck go down the big muddy in a raft.

  92. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 1:14 pm #

    “I agree. I was going to respond to him…”
    And then you realized that you couldn’t because that little light (your conscience) clicked on and you came to the realization that Spitzer truly is a piece of fuck. But that is OK. Sometimes it takes people a while to “get it”. Got it?

  93. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 1:21 pm #

    An interesting point: does the Goverment have the right to play favorites? Or does the “greatest good for the greatest number” take precedence? In which case, shouldn’t the victims be compensated handsomely? There has been no guarantee of that. Right now it seems like a moral/political mish/mash.
    This certainly will strengthen the conspiracy theory that the Goverment opened the levees during Katrina – even though the situation is different and no one has explained why that would have benefitted anybody to my knowledge. Of course, the Blacks don’t need a reason – they just assume the Goverment is trying to get rid of them. And there is a bit of evidence to support this, namely early Planned Parenthood’s policy of setting up near Black neighborhoods. Margaret Sanger was a typical White of the times – a racist in other words. Of course the situation has changed and Traditional Whites are no longer in the driver’s seat. Today they Elite are trying to reduce OUR numbers, not the Blacks.

  94. SeaYoung May 16, 2011 at 1:39 pm #

    Jim,
    You have perfectly set my mind at ease. You are exactly right, “Remember, it’s not about the countries. They’ll still be there. The goats will still be grazing in wild thyme on the Greek hillsides no matter what happens in some Frankfurt board room.”
    As Europe may in fact go quickly, the worker bees making life in the Hampton’s possible for countless despicables will be frenzy whipped to assume the same for US via various media and other assorted reports from Wall Street. Our leaders will panic (again) and react dreadfully (again).
    I will remember the cow in the pasture, Jim’s goat in Greece, the bird on the breeze, the fish in the sea and will care less.
    Pass the puddin’
    Sealevel

  95. wagelaborer May 16, 2011 at 1:42 pm #

    Wow! Cornfields more valuable than 2,800 blacks?
    Talk about your backwards Southerner! And from Ohio, to boot.
    They didn’t blow up cornfields, you blithering idiot. They flooded them, which used to be a traditional way of bringing nutrients to farmland.
    Too bad the Mississippi is so polluted.
    And, guess what? A lot of those Cairo refugees are here, in my town, and they are not all black.

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  96. Joe May 16, 2011 at 1:49 pm #

    First!

  97. Smokyjoe May 16, 2011 at 1:55 pm #

    “The goats will still be grazing in wild thyme on the Greek hillsides no matter what happens in some Frankfurt board room. The layabouts will still be at their tables in the Lisbon café.”
    And they’ll still be there while we loot the Wal Marts. Poor folks won’t have far to fall…and Portugal, in particular, has long been used to its status as a faded empire.
    America, however, won’t take the transition from hegemon to pauper prettily.

  98. edpell May 16, 2011 at 2:03 pm #

    No problem 30,000 GW thorium reactors will supply all the energy we need. As for the southerners they were right 150 years ago. We hate each other and would both be happier apart.

  99. trippticket May 16, 2011 at 2:04 pm #

    Last week John Michael Greer mentioned his amazement at the number of people who “prepare” for the future by storing up garden seeds, a random assortment of hand tools, and a book on gardening, in their woodsy doomstead. He said, very accurately, that organic gardening without fossil inputs takes years of intensive focus and practice to provide even a portion of your family’s food.
    My blog post this week is an attempt to knock the angle of the learning curve down a little for practicing organic gardeners, and perhaps for folks who are ready to get serious about producing food at home without increasingly-expensive inputs. It’s about a system of gardening that has revolutionized the way we grow food at my house, following a couple of years of more traditional organic gardening. It’s not about “organic” gardening, it’s about what organic gardening wants to be when it grows up.
    I hope you find it useful in your quest for self-reliance.
    http://smallbatchgarden.blogspot.com/2011/05/when-student-is-ready.html
    Cheers!
    Tripp

  100. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 2:05 pm #

    One Hundredth!!!

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  101. MarlinFive54 May 16, 2011 at 2:06 pm #

    C’mon, Jim, Strauss-Kahn just wanted to score a little action while staying in that $3000 per night hotel room. Who wouldn’t? After all, NYC can be a lonely MFen place, and that maid, well, she was looking pretty hot, tempting and available in that tight little uniform of hers.
    For Chrissake give the guy a break. He is French, after all.
    -Avoir, Marlin

  102. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 2:07 pm #

    ” We hate each other and would both be happier apart.”
    Speak for yourself.

  103. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 2:11 pm #

    Feminists feel that they should be able to call the police and have men locked up at any time – even just for “raping” them with their eyes. And of course be spared the stress of having to face the accused in court.
    Alan Dershowitz once grossly offended some of these young ladies by mentioning the fact of false accusations of rape in a class he was teaching. The young ladies considered sueing him or at least trying to get him fired. They wisely decided against it. As it is, a woman can ruin a man’s life with an accusation of rape and then just recant with a wan “sorry”.
    False accusations of rape should carry the same sentence as rape itself.

  104. Newfie May 16, 2011 at 2:11 pm #

    In Greece, Despair Is Tearing the Social Fabric:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/16/business/global/16drachma.html
    If you want a glimpse of what it’s going to be like here, there and everywhere as it all comes crashing down, you can see it happening in Greece right now.

  105. Newfie May 16, 2011 at 2:17 pm #

    So we found out the guy running the IMF is a certifiable idiot. He’s staying in a $3000 a day hotel room. His little head could have told the big one to order out for some tasty crumpet from the Eros-Guide website. Hundreds of tasty girls (and boys!) of all colours, shapes and sizes available at a tiny fraction of the economic and social cost of trying to hump the maid. If this is typical of the judgement of our greatest leaders then no f–king wonder the world is falling apart.

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  106. rippedthunder May 16, 2011 at 2:18 pm #

    What red blooded man can resist a woman in a French Maid costume? Heck I would chase her around the block. Rape is a violent crime and the purps should be castrated. This whole news story looks like a set-up to me. Even if the guy is innocent his life is ruined. A guy down the road a piece was in the middle of a nasty divorce. His wife played the child abuse card. He was proven innocent, but people still think he is a perv. Accusations are just that, accusations. Maybe the guy is guilty. Who knows? the cops will try to sort it out. Either way his future is toast.

  107. memoryhole May 16, 2011 at 2:18 pm #

    Maybe DSK thought someone had sent him a lil gift dressed in a French maid outfit?

  108. memoryhole May 16, 2011 at 2:20 pm #

    Giving loans to a country in a debt crisis is like throwing cinder blocks at someone who is drowning.

  109. Bustin J May 16, 2011 at 2:22 pm #

    $3000/night hotels have security cameras. If DSK was running around stark naked in the hallways, as the victim alleges, then that footage exists.

  110. rippedthunder May 16, 2011 at 2:27 pm #

    Hey Memery, They have not made cinder blocks in 50 years, tin foil either. Just a pet peeve of mine. They are concrete blocks and aluminum foil.

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  111. rippedthunder May 16, 2011 at 2:30 pm #

    Oh shit, now I am on the watch list again!

  112. MarlinFive54 May 16, 2011 at 2:34 pm #

    Ibendet;
    Another book is out about Goldman-Sachs (and their nefarious deeds). The author was interviewed on Book TV. His name I think David Cohan? Title roughly “Goldman Sachs rules the world.” He covered a lot of ground. One thing he said is that in the past few years GS has given out $150 BBBillion in bonuses to their key employees for a job well done. Another thing he said is that it was Goldman alone, and their lieutenants in key Govt. positions,that pretty much brought down the system in 2007.
    I don’t think GS cares about these exposes’ and what American opinion is about the Company. They just seem utouchable. They are making more money now that ever. Nothing and nobody can stop them.
    -Marlin
    El Toro Farm
    “LeCasa de la Dolce’ Tomatinos”

  113. memoryhole May 16, 2011 at 2:37 pm #

    Country X goes deeply into debt. The IMF extends loans at usurious interest rates, causing said country to cut social spending and privatize state industries to pay said loans, among other “austerity” measures, or maybe just pay off the interest on said loans. (That’s really what the international bankers care about…getting their interest payments. The principal be damned.) These measures make X’s economy contract, creating even more debt as tax revenues fall, for which the IMF suggests….more loans! And round and round we go on the debt merry-go-round.

  114. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 2:38 pm #

    Nice article. Bring back the women with bady on back gardening with a digging stick. Now men can learn to relax again – go hunting twice a week maybe. Help out with the planting and harvesting of course. Culture can flourish. Spend weeks at a time in a kiva hole meditating on the mystery. Take a course in basket weaving even.
    Some of the article is hard to believe – like the plants signaling the wasps. But I want to believe and will keep a very open mind. I know this much: things are not stranger (and more wondrous) than we believe, they are stranger than we can believe.

  115. SqueekyFromm May 16, 2011 at 2:41 pm #

    I wrote a song for Dominique:
    Dominique!!!
    To the tune of Dominique
    by Squeeky Fromm
    Dominque, nique, nique
    I will tell of Dominique
    And of his foibles, too
    How he took a little maid,
    On the hotel bed he laid
    Made her play his wee Kazoo.
    I will tell of Dominique and I hope you will sing with
    Dominique would sing it also but his Lawyer pleads the Fifth!!!
    Dominque, nique, nique
    Oh she told on Dominique!
    Before he left for France.
    Now the cops they made it there.
    And they stripped his derriere
    Seized his underwear and pants.
    But Dominque he asked them “Do you not know who I am?
    “I am a world wide Banker!” as the the old cell door went “slaaamm!”
    Dominque, nique, nique
    Oh Mon Dieu! Poor Dominique.
    With Bubba in his cell.
    Bubba’s house was foreclosed on
    With a robo-signed ARM loan.
    “Welcome, Dominique, to HELL!!!”
    Here is a youtube video of the song in case anybody doesn’t know the tune.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0C_3evYJ88
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  116. memoryhole May 16, 2011 at 2:42 pm #

    Ah, when life was nasty, brutish, and short. Those were the days!

  117. memoryhole May 16, 2011 at 2:45 pm #

    RE: Greece article
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/16/business/global/16drachma.html
    Hm, yes, sell us your state assets to pay off a year or two of the debt. Good idea. What you do to pay off next year’s debt is not our prob.

  118. memoryhole May 16, 2011 at 2:47 pm #

    International finance is like a game of Monopoly where the banker gets to print the money with a trusty Inkjet and some colored paper and then loan it out at 15% interest.
    All your hotels are belong to us.

  119. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 2:52 pm #

    “Feminists feel that they should be able to call the police and have men locked up at any time – even just for “raping” them with their eyes.”
    Hey douche-boy,
    We have a thing these days called DNA testing. I can assure you that “eye raping” and false charges no longer work.
    In the mean time how about shutting the fuck up as you are a consistent ass of enormous dimensions?

  120. Grouchy Old Girl May 16, 2011 at 2:52 pm #

    “We won’t have to continue bailing European banks out”.
    Excuse me? I thought it was German banks bailing out European countries like Greece and Ireland, with Portugal and Spain coming up soon.
    Given the entire US government might just lose its ability to function today or tomorrow, what makes you think the USA is bailing anybody out?
    Up here in the cold country of Canada, our understanding is that you Americans were the ones who got the whole global financial collapse underway, with your fanciful magic tricks making money out of thin air.
    Maybe Fox News didn’t tell you that. Sorry to break the news to you, but your economy is tanking right about now. You are no longer the saviour of the entire world, in fact some of us see you as the biggest problem we’ve all got.
    Time to face the music, or as my mother might say, “put that in your pipe and smoke it”.

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  121. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 2:53 pm #

    “They didn’t blow up cornfields…” No fucktard, they flooded them. Blowing them up would not have been as devastating.

  122. Grouchy Old Girl May 16, 2011 at 2:55 pm #

    Memoryhole, I like you. Thanks for giving us a reminder history lesson that is quite accurate even if it suggests blame for our mess isn’t entirely the fault of the USA, as I just boldly claimed minute ago.

  123. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 2:56 pm #

    “If DSK was running around stark naked in the hallways…”
    For fuck’s sake it was the hallway of his suite.

  124. asoka May 16, 2011 at 2:56 pm #

    Grouchy Old Girl, I like you. Thanks for telling it like it is … no matter how much we would like it to be otherwise.

  125. Grouchy Old Girl May 16, 2011 at 3:08 pm #

    Thanks Asoka, I have admired you many times for your posts. We both tilt a bit left eh?
    Now a question for the conspiracy theorists on the blog. Maybe I’m just having a silly old girl day, but if the maid, an employee of 3 years standing at the hotel, goes into his room to find him naked and lunging, and all the rest follows including his rapid attempted departure from the country, how does a conspiracy plan figure in that?
    Was the employee a plant by the conspirators? Just waiting, for 3 years, for this guy to register so she can go into his room and make up this story?
    If that’s true, and nothing happened, why did he bolt, leaving his cell phone behind for cops to find out he’d got the plane ticket? There was no reason to suddenly decide to fly home if nothing happened, was there?
    Sorry, but my vote goes to it being just as alleged. A horny old white guy who thought the maid was part of the cost of the room. Kind of like if a guy buys dinner you have to put out later. Plenty of men think that way and some of them post on this very blog. It’s called male entitlement and causes no end of trouble.

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  126. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 3:10 pm #

    “Given the entire US government might just lose its ability to function today or tomorrow, what makes you think the USA is bailing anybody out?”
    Read following:
    “The $700 billion U.S. bailout program launched in response to the global economic meltdown had a far greater impact overseas than other countries’ financial rescue plans did on the U.S., according to a new report from a congressional watchdog.
    Billions of dollars in U.S. rescue funds wound up in big banks in France, Germany and other nations. That was probably inevitable because of the structure of the Treasury Department’s program, the Congressional Oversight Panel says in a new report issued Thursday.
    The U.S. program aimed to stabilize the financial system by injecting money into as many banks as possible, including those with substantial operations overseas. Most other countries, by contrast, focused their efforts more narrowly on banks in their nations that usually lacked major U.S. operations.”
    Full story here:
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/08/12/watchdog-panel-bailout-money-ends-overseas-banks/

  127. memoryhole May 16, 2011 at 3:11 pm #

    Well, just to add to the CF yank session, I just wanna say….I LOVES YOU GUYS!

  128. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 3:12 pm #

    Well you as well as she are wrong. Surpirse! (Not.)

  129. Buck Stud May 16, 2011 at 3:12 pm #

    Are we about to witness a very public ” the Viagra made me do it” rape case?

  130. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 3:17 pm #

    “Are we about to witness a very public ” the Viagra made me do it” rape case?”
    Nope. It was a false flag rape. She raped herself to bring down the IMF. Seems her aunt Fi Fi in France couldn’t get a loan to buy some french fries. This was revenge sex, pure and simple.

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  131. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 3:18 pm #

    P.S. She like it.

  132. Jimmy Drinkwater May 16, 2011 at 3:19 pm #

    “A horny old white guy…….”
    Why say white, why not just horny, old guy?
    Or, is that part of what ’tilt left’ means?

  133. lbendet May 16, 2011 at 3:23 pm #

    Marlin,
    We’re all watching since 2008 GS getting away with anything they want. They write the laws, so they can never break them, thus will never get prosecuted and given high level positions in government.
    Our present situaltion brings to mind a quote from George Orwell:
    “If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.”
    No matter how many people are pointing out how they break the law, no matter how many books are written, our justice department won’t do a thing about it and they will continue sucking out the world and the US of its wealth with impunity.

  134. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 3:23 pm #

    .

  135. lbendet May 16, 2011 at 3:27 pm #

    P.S.
    As dour as my last post was, I’m really getting a lot of laughs today by many of your comments.
    And Squeaky that’s downright creative what you did there.

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  136. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 3:31 pm #

    ..

  137. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 3:31 pm #

  138. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 3:32 pm #

    ….

  139. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 3:37 pm #

    “You are no longer the saviour of the entire world…”
    This of course suggesting that we once were. You’re welcome.

  140. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 3:37 pm #

    What about Civil Rights for ordinary Whites? Will you march for that? Have you seen all the video of Tea Partiers being attacked by Blacks?

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  141. LewisLucanBooks May 16, 2011 at 3:40 pm #

    I just finished reading “Hot: Living Through the Next Fifty Years on Earth” by Mark Hertsgaard. 2011.
    Pg. 72 “Citing research by Art Rosenfeld, the grand old man of California energy innovation, Romm reported that the average American household could counteract the ten tons of CO2 it annually emits by retrofitting one thousand square feet of roof or sidewalk with reflective surfaces. Retrofitting all urban roofs and pavements in the world would yield emissions reductions equivalent of taking all the world’s cars off the road for eighteen years.” “Dubbed “geoengineering-lite” by Joseph Romm, a former U.S. assistant secretary of energy who blogs at climatprogress.org, the idea is to make roofs – and pavements – white, thus reflecting more sunlight away from the earth’s surface at little or no risk.”
    Not going to happen, but an interesting idea.

  142. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 3:41 pm #

    Ah the empty set – Lil’Jimbo’s best post to date. His incarnations are becoming progressively shorter. Soon his lifespan will be no more than that of an insect who lives, breeds, and die all on a single summer day.

  143. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 3:42 pm #

    Once upon a time there was a tavern…

  144. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 3:46 pm #

    “Ah the empty set..”
    Empty? Something wrong with your eyes? They were atomic turds sent in your honor.

  145. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 3:48 pm #

    Heres some more:
    …………………………..
    ………………………….

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  146. tucsonspur May 16, 2011 at 3:53 pm #

    It’s an old and unending story.
    Recall Mike Tyson and Roethlisberger, and the various basketball players.
    Then there’s the mess at Duke, with Nifong being brought up on charges of withholding exculpatory evidence.
    Certainly DSK is a “bigger player”, and who knows what lengths the powerfull will go to to remain so.
    Hart, Edwards, Clinton,…on and on.
    It speaks to the weakness of men and the power of p—-.

  147. edpell May 16, 2011 at 3:54 pm #

    In order to power the US with thorium based nuclear reactors we will need to build about 30,000 1GW reactors over the next 30 years. That is about 3 per day. Boeing makes about 450 planes per year. So we will need a company about twice the size of Boeing to meet our needs. I am assuming reactors will be factory made and ship to their site whole. We of course will need the shipping company and the site build companies. Lots of money to be made.

  148. SqueekyFromm May 16, 2011 at 3:56 pm #

    Thank you!!!
    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  149. loveday May 16, 2011 at 4:09 pm #

    Hi Grouchy,
    You pose a good question, was this dingaling Dom set up or not? Well I gotta say that I am suspicious of a setup. The sexual accusation play appears to be used pretty frequently lately, so much so that the many examples were listed above by another poster. Just because this woman worked at the hotel for 3 years doesn’t mean she wasn’t bought off- to either engage in sex with the dingaling dude then run screaming rape or too throw out signals saying come and get me dude, then screaming rape. Obviously the poor girl is a working stiff and might have caved in for some cash under the table. Sorry I think this was a very public warning to a high level player to toe the elite banking line or else.
    It has been reported that Kahn was changing course with the IMF to a “kinder”, “gentler” course towards ( see Mike Whitney’s article on Counterpunch) the populations being fleeced by the IMF. If true this would probably have cost the world banking elite big bucks. Something that simply wouldn’t be tolerated. So no this incident doesn’t pass the smell test. And I’m not defending the dingaling dude by any means, I’m sure his little sexual deviations have been going on for a long time, that’s the point, most likely his little problem was well known to his banker pals. His being caught at this time is just ” convenient”, right? By the way I hope he spends a lot of time dodging his new boyfriend in jail- a lot of time.
    Have a great day!

  150. Grouchy Old Girl May 16, 2011 at 4:10 pm #

    I said “horny old white guy” in recognition of the fact that old white guys are the rulers of the world and often take much more than their fair share of everything. The non-white guys and all women are just grist for their mill.

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  151. CynicalOne May 16, 2011 at 4:13 pm #

    “Maybe I’m paranoid but I think poor old Dominque Strauss-Kahn has been “Spitzered.”
    Or maybe he’s just a vile, wretched creature with a history of assaulting women, who finally got caught.

  152. Grouchy Old Girl May 16, 2011 at 4:23 pm #

    Thanks for correcting me Lil Jim. I meant to say that Americans thought they were saviours to the world, not that they actually were.
    How else do you account for the military and CIA driven interventions in places all over the world where the USA doesn’t approve of their leaders or policies? What and who gave Amerika the job of policing the world anyway? Who asked you?
    Up here in Canada we all laugh at stories about how the USA won World War II, which is how every single tv show and book produced in the USA portrays the country’s rather tardy entrance into the war.
    It’s all one world and no country has the right or moral authority to dominate the rest of the planet. We have to work together, starting with the assumption that every single human life is worth as much as every one else’s, and that includes poor as well as rich.

  153. JonathanSS May 16, 2011 at 4:23 pm #

    How about cases where the sex is consensual, or the lady was drunk, and she is regretful the next morning? Now the guy is screwed by a rape charge.
    May I ask, why does your writing read to me as if you are angry & why do you engage in ad hominem attacks?

  154. lbendet May 16, 2011 at 4:26 pm #

    Westcoast,
    As any of you pointed out Dom had a history. So, in fact did Clinton.
    Interesting observations about all the sexual smears both real and not real from Spitzer, Clinton,
    Assange, etc.
    If you want to take someone down, sex is always the way.
    Hey–What about Osama? He also had a treasure trove of porn! Oh he had 3 wives, porn and marijuana plants right outside his luxury villa–Ha
    Sounds very J. Edgar Hoover, doesn’t it?
    Always look for the patterns, that’s what I say.

  155. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 4:30 pm #

    “May I ask..”
    No. You may not.

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  156. memoryhole May 16, 2011 at 4:32 pm #

    How perfectly appropriate that the head of the IMF is a dominatrix. He probably mistook her for a small Latin American nation.

  157. Jimmy Drinkwater May 16, 2011 at 4:33 pm #

    “I said “horny old white guy” in recognition of the fact that old white guys are the rulers of the world and often take much more than their fair share of everything. The non-white guys and all women are just grist for their mill.”
    Figured as much……so saying something like hairy legged, left tiling, libtard wouldn’t be out of line then. And we can go on ignoring Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, etc etc.

  158. JonathanSS May 16, 2011 at 4:34 pm #

    Funny post. I liked your humor in calling the compound a luxury villa. It looks more like some apartment complex on the seedy side of town. I cracked up when I heard a TV commentator refer to it as a McMansion, a term which has nothing to do with this structure.

  159. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 4:35 pm #

    “What and who gave Amerika the job of policing the world anyway? Who asked you?”
    I don’t know. I guess the rest of the world just isn’t ready to take on the responsibility. Like this little nugget:
    “COST-CUTTING Britain has been forced to go cap in hand to borrow a US spy plane to protect our ships in Libya.”
    Yawn. Its gets so tiring.
    Full story here:
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/3581998/UK-forced-to-borrow-spy-plane-from-US.html

  160. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 4:38 pm #

    ” Who asked you?”
    England.

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  161. memoryhole May 16, 2011 at 4:39 pm #

    Hey, this is kinda cool, like a bad Bruce Willis movie.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/15/world/middleeast/15prince.html

  162. memoryhole May 16, 2011 at 4:43 pm #

    I love headlines like this.
    “Secret Desert Force Set Up by Blackwater’s Founder”
    Then the article proceeds to give all the vital information about the secret force.
    So, not so secret anymore after you get a nytimes write-up, I’d say.

  163. lil'jimbo May 16, 2011 at 4:48 pm #

    Hey how are things up there in Kanada?

  164. trippticket May 16, 2011 at 4:57 pm #

    “How perfectly appropriate that the head of the IMF is a dominatrix. He probably mistook her for a small Latin American nation.”
    I just spit bourbon and soda all over the monitor. Yes, yes, I’m drinking bourbon at quarter to five on a Monday. Monday is my weekend, if there is such a thing on a farm. It mostly means I don’t have any markets or mentees to attend to today. I still have to help with dishes, hang some laundry (per a deal with my wife), and plant another round of green beans and eggplants, but I can do that buzzed….
    Now where is that towel?

  165. observer May 16, 2011 at 5:04 pm #

    I saw a great movie yesterday about Argentina. It’s called “Argentina: Turning Around,” by Melissa Young and Mark Dworkin (Bullfrog Films). http://www.bullfrogfilms.com

    Argentina had a financial crisis in 2001, resulting in countrywide bank closures. Part of the reason for the crisis was indebtedness to the IMF. Subsequently, the country decided not to repay the IMF, and many workers took over factories that had closed and began running them as worker-owned businesses. That’s the subject of the movie: what people can do when the S actually hits the F. There are more possibilities than gardening and stocking up on ammo, and this movie shows some of them. Of course Argentina has recently had some excellent leadership.

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  166. trippticket May 16, 2011 at 5:10 pm #

    “Not going to happen, but an interesting idea.”
    Not to mention that we’d probably trigger the next ice age right about the time we finished the retrofit…
    It’s pretty chilly down here in south Georgia for mid-May. We’re looking at 48 for a low tonight and tomorrow night. Unheard of. We had over 1200 chill hours this winter…and last winter…in a 400 zone.
    My advice is to skip the dogma, skip the great master plans, and lay in resilience measures for an uncertain future. Looking out the window I see young cherries and bananas, apricots and citrus, apples and olives. Who can tell which group will be tasted more often.

  167. lpat May 16, 2011 at 5:17 pm #

    This guy–the head of the IMF–is the great white hope of the French left?
    Sacre merde!

  168. sevenmmm May 16, 2011 at 5:26 pm #

    I laughed…,
    until I cried.

  169. LewisLucanBooks May 16, 2011 at 5:27 pm #

    LOL. Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. It’s not quit vapor ware … I mean, it would probably help … maybe.
    But it’s just another one of those “silver bullets” that isn’t going anywhere, or won’t work. But, people glom onto these things to “save us all.”
    Yup. Been cold here too, this year. A repeat of last year. Cold and wet longer then usual. A couple of nights of frost over the last week. Am beginning to think about things to extend the growing season, when I get moved “out.” Hot manure, solar mass in growing areas. Row covers. Greenhouse.
    Haven’t gotten around to checking your post out on organic gardening, but am looking forward to it. I think I have most of the Rodale books.

  170. trippticket May 16, 2011 at 5:52 pm #

    “We’re draining our IRA and taking a hit if Geithner rapes the governement pensions. I don’t trust any of these greedy, racist pigs currently in power.”
    That’s a good thought, and I hope others are considering emptying their pension funds to spend on resilience planning in the near term. What piddly “earnings” those funds are making are being gobbled up by what I would consider to be pretty rapid inflation at this point, and there’s absolutely no guarantee that the “money” represented therein will still be money in five, much less ten years.
    Instead, that money holds its highest value right now, when plans can be set in motion to lessen the impact on your household of a crash in the formal economy. Blueberries don’t yield overnight.
    I’m not saying this to be a doomer, but rather to get you thinking about more effective ways to invest your money while it still has some value. It won’t forever.

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  171. Bustin J May 16, 2011 at 6:10 pm #

    DSK, tsk, tsk. Unfortunately there is an epidemic, a mudslide, if you will, of unfulfilled testosterone hydrolyzing in countless wads of Kleenex all over America. The red, white, and especially BLUE balls of America are well known everywhere. No, men have no right to force a woman to have oral sex, but they do have a right to go online and see the same thing, over and over.
    If they are rich, they can pay for the real thing, as Mr. IMF probably was accustomed to. Lets be frank, prostitution is the reason why men pursue paychecks. Sex is addiction, a primal drive. Some, like Vlad, sublimate this into message board threads, impregnating fertile discussion forums with the seminal theories of what “Really” drives the “Elite”: racism.
    I posit that such a preoccupation supposes that, after having their balls throughly drained, and, in the heady atmosphere of hormonal saturation, they have time to think of other things. Like world domination. Wrong.
    Hart, Spitzer, Clinton, and now DSK, represent a more organic truth: it reveals that what preoccupies and motivates in this postmodern era is the satisfactions of the body. What preoccupies the “elite” is earthly pleasures. The truly “elite” don’t have to form conspiracies to organize power to flow in their direction. The system is what funnels wealth and power in their direction.
    Lets consider a thought exercise. Lets say you have assets to the tune of a one followed by 8-10 zeroes. You could afford a pro hooker to clean your shoes and nothing more, let alone have sex with. The interest your assets accrue far exceeds expenses unless you are a complete idiot. Your motivation for dabbling influence in the super-complex social structure is nil. All the rich advocates and their causes are well known. All the rich benefactors we don’t know don’t have causes. They make a weekly call to the lawyer, broker, banker, and thats fucking it, okay?
    The rest of the time they are pursuing leisure and pleasure as would any monkey with more cash than they know what to do with. The Royals are just chumps with day jobs. Who wants to work? Absolutely no one. Send up a bottle of scotch, some viagra, 12 hookers, and a “do not disturb” sign. Thats the life.
    Now, every woman has a “been stalked /groped /raped /assaulted” story. So the sentiment of familiarity a woman might feel toward a story like this one is certainly strong, almost universally. On the other hand, many men have a story about a been “/accused /slandered /charged” with /grope, /rape, or /assault from a woman whose charges were baseless. In Roman times, I believe the law was intentionally vague about crimes alleged between individuals, in private, and punishments were minimal. I believe this is rational, as it is nearly impossible to discern who is and who is not telling the truth.
    It is simply reality that, in private, sans admission, it is nearly impossible to try and figure out what happened. The solution is a return to reason. Somewhere along the line the custom of men and women, privately commiserating, being a cultural taboo was discarded. What was understood then was the simple fact of sexual drive. Today, there is greater latitude, but we don’t seem to allow for the realization that such situations carry with themselves a greater risk. Young women today naively are allowed to think that the young man who asks them on a date is not really thinking about how much he’d like to climb on top of her and stick it in. It is culturally unacceptable to simply state what you’d like to do to your date, or ask frankly for permission. We are still in-between worlds. Today, men are required to lie about their intentions, to hide behind a facade of harmlessness, from the earliest encounter right up the act itself. Deception has become foreplay.
    When a man pays for dinner, he pays for sex. When he listens to her babble about her dreams and aspirations, he pays for sex. And when he gets sex… its kind of a let-down, and then he logs on and swipes his credit card, finally enjoying a moment of honesty in this sad world.
    Anyway- DSK. Look at him, does anyone think he has ever whacked off in front of a computer? No. He has enough money to pay for “REAL 3D” hookers and a little research shows that such things can be ordered in 30 minutes or less in much of the world, let alone Europe, where they also happen to be pretty. I don’t, for one moment, think that this man ever had sex except as paid for. Neither do I think he ever paid money to just look at pictures of sex.
    The damning article is his association with the IMF. To a capitalist, everyone is reducible to money, and its power. The Special Victims Unit would break it down pretty quick. He offered to pay for sex (not ask). She turned him down. Being a capitalist, his interest piqued as her claim of higher value made him think she was in fact of higher value. At which point he doubled his offer, which she refused. They are playing two different games. At some point, his erection took over as the financial stake in this interaction approached infinity, as she made it clear she would not, ever, never, even nibble at it. Such a claim of wealth cannot but incite bloodthirsty lust in the heart of a capitalist. All other valuations became meaningless as his capitalist/financier brainstem registers overflowed with lust, and he was transformed by the beauty and perfection of this moment of sublime transactionalism to devolve into the infantile persona of helpless infant at the foot of untouchable mother-goddess.
    The plea will be not guilty by means of temporary insanity. Everyone will be talking about it. And the debt ceiling will be raised, corporations will get bailouts and your guaranteed benefits will evaporate at the same time.

  172. bproman May 16, 2011 at 6:14 pm #

    Bin Bankin’

  173. LewisLucanBooks May 16, 2011 at 6:15 pm #

    From Our “The Kids Are All Right!” Department.
    From http://www.alternet.org … Worcester Polytechnic Institute in Worcester, MA. invited Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon Mobil to give this years commencement speech. That didn’t sit too well with the students who demanded that Richard Heinberg from the Post Carbon Institute give the commencement address, instead.
    After a lot of negotiation, Heinberg gave an alternative speech immediately after the regularly planned speech. Here is what he said:
    http://www.alternet.org/environment/150927/vision%3A_building_a_world_that_can_run_without_fossil_fuels_will_be_the_challenge_of_our_lifetimes/

  174. Newfie May 16, 2011 at 6:27 pm #

    Pardon my naivete but what about the flea in his ear ? Did the flea make him “do it” ?

  175. lbendet May 16, 2011 at 6:36 pm #

    Wow, Bustin
    After reading your post I had a hankering for a cigarette!

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  176. lbendet May 16, 2011 at 7:30 pm #

    Just thought I’d share an email I sent Chris Matthews who’s so surprised Trump attacked Obama and left the race….
    Set-up, set-up set-up, Chris
    I have a strong sense that Donald, “Some of my best friends are black” Trump might actually have been working with Obama.
    Now why do you think I say that? It sounds so counter-intuitive until you think about it.
    Well, First Trump attacks the free unfettered trade against all the dedicated Milton Friedmanites and Globalists who have destroyed the job market here for the last 35 years.
    Then Trump makes the birthers look like crazy people the way Steven Colbert does by pretending to have those views to the enth degree. Surely you don’t think anyone with a brain would commit political hari kari like that do you? ..If they really have serious plans to help this country.
    This forces Obama to release his long form birth certificate just in time to stop certain states from passing local laws not to allow him on the ballot if he wasn’t born here.
    Then Obama performs at the press dinner smoothly, taking some playful witty jabs at Trump. All the while, the biggest coup in 10 years is about to unfold….
    Osama is killed by our Navy Seals the next day and then Trump and birthers look like fools.
    Sounds like a Cass Sunstein move to me. Brilliant!

  177. Hieronymo May 16, 2011 at 7:33 pm #

    Last (so far).

  178. bubbleheadMarc May 16, 2011 at 7:40 pm #

    I think that Grouchy Old Girl gets the prize so far today for provoking the most indignation. Some brief comments on the Yank-Canuck nexus from a recovered Anglophile who at one time memorized half the topo maps for northern Ontario:
    [1] Canada is not some harmless Scandinavian country that hasn’t been to war with anyone for centuries. As one of the white Dominions the Canadians were senior partners in the British Empire and didn’t really attain independence until the Statute of Westminster finally permitted them to set up their own diplomatic corps in 1936. An argument could be made, not overly disingenuous, that it was the British Empire which actually started World War II by declaring war on Germany over the quixotic issue of some absurd treaty with Poland. Why should Americans always go with the Anglophiles and bankroll British Imperialism?
    [2] Most English speaking residents of what used to be called Upper Canada [Ontario] were/are descended from American Tories, who preferred to be known as Loyalists, which rhymes with Royalists. At the end of the American Revolution they were largely deported to British North America, later to be renamed Canada in 1867. So yes, Canadians are largely American, although I wouldn’t insult them by calling them the 51st state. I think the first name said it better: British North America. After all, the document signed by Queen Victoria creating Canada was called the British North America Act.
    I like Canada. But I’m never going to buy land in a country where you can be banned from that country simply for getting a single DUI. If I want to build a cabin in the woods I’ll go to the Ruby Mountains of northern Nevada, where you don’t get deported for one DUI. When I do go to Canada for the canoeing I am always cognizant of where I am: the now defunct British Empire, and in case I forgot for just a few minutes, there’s always that giant exit sign on the QEW which says, “next exit, Winston S. Churchill Boulevard”. Then if you drive further you see another exit for “Kitchener, Ontario”, then if you drive over the bridge on route 11 before Latchford you see a sign for “Aubrey Cousins, Victoria Cross”. No, Canada is not in Scandinavia. It is the country that sent troops to South Africa for the use of the British during the Boer War, a war which was intentionally provoked by Cecil Rhodes, an early promoter of English Speaking Union type institutions to help rope in the naive Americans to help out their former imperial overlords. The reason the Cathedral Church of St. John the Divine in New York was never finished was because its greatest patron, JP Morgan, the richest layman in the Episcopal Church, put his fortune behind the British Empire during the first World War so that the motherland woudn’t be raped by the hun, even though that was patently impossible since the Kaiser’s sailors didn’t have the guts to confront the British fleet after turning tail and running back to port in Kiel during the Battle of Jutland, and this in spite of the fact that the Germans’ ships were [of course] superior in design and craftsmanship to the somewhat under armored British battle cruisers.

  179. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 8:15 pm #

    You identify with Him and envy him too. I don’t blame you a bit – the uber rich really do live better. But none of this should change his sentence should he be found guilty. If anything, the rich and powerful should be punished more heavily – but the opposite is usually the case.
    Many of the Super Rich of America’s past did not know what to do with their money. Making it was their passion and they felt ill at ease with leisure and pleasure. This of course changes with the second generation but not always. Some of the Rich are into Power far more than pleasure. And what is more powerful than changing the World – for its own good of course.

  180. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 8:17 pm #

    I concur. The best evidence is that Trump did not contest the obviously fraudulent birth certificate.

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  181. asoka May 16, 2011 at 8:50 pm #

    All of economics is divided into two schools: steady state theory and infinite planet theory. They can’t both be right. You’d think the choice between them would be obvious, but infinite planet theory still holds sway in classrooms and in the halls of power where policy is made. Last month, though, brought a significant development: the manager of a major hedge fund registered a carefully reasoned dissent from infinite planet theory. And in doing so, Jeremy Grantham offered a glimpse of how and why steady state economic theory will ultimately come to prevail.
    Grantham is the head of GMO LLC, a hedge fund with $100 billion under management. His latest letter to his investors was headlined “Time to Wake Up: Days of Abundant Resources and Falling Prices Are Over Forever”—a title that calls to mind the urgent warnings raised by steady-staters as far back as the 1970s. Those warnings were dismissed by most economists as Chicken-Little fears that could safely be ignored—and the western industrial world proceeded to do just that. Infinite planet theorists pointed to the work of Julian Simon, who argued that human ingenuity is The Ultimate Resource (as he put it in the title of a book). Since technology, a human invention, is a factor of production, and since human capacity for invention is infinite, there can be no resource limits to economic growth. Infinity times anything is infinity, right?
    You can get to that conclusion only if you ignore the laws of thermodynamics.

    Two Schools and the Path to the Steady Stateby Eric Zencey
    To read the rest of the article:
    http://steadystate.org/two-schools/
    Your Ayn Rand was wrong, your Rand Paul is wrong, your Ron Paul is wrong, your Ludwig Von Mises was wrong, your Adam Smith was wrong, and all the other neoclassical economics believers are wrong.
    Capitalism has been refuted by the laws of thermodynamics.

  182. asoka May 16, 2011 at 9:06 pm #

    Good advice, Tripp! We need to listen to Tripp and we need to do permacultural gardening work now, before the system crash, before the gold/silver bubbles burst.
    Tripp said: “Blueberries don’t yield overnight.”
    Money spent now, on becoming eco-agriculturally less dependent on an unsustainable industrial agricultural system, is money better spent than buying gold, silver, or ammunition, none of which will provide you with physical sustenance tomorrow.

  183. wagelaborer May 16, 2011 at 9:40 pm #

    I’ve done my part.
    We had an inland hurricane 2 years ago. You know, one of those 100 year storms that so many people are getting.
    It blew part of my roof off. I put a shiny metal roof on with the insurance money, instead of that nasty heat soaking asphalt stuff.
    I really have my doubts that it will have an effect on global warming, but it keeps the house a little cooler in the summer, so what the hell.
    My Country Living magazine that the electric co-op sends me monthly is full of advertisements about energy saving devices like thermal heating and cooling, in which they promise to save 80% of your electricity costs, articles about insulating and caulking, in which they promise to save large amounts of energy, and then editorials, in which they announce that there is no way to save energy, we need coal.
    Don’t the editors read their own magazine?

  184. diogen May 16, 2011 at 9:42 pm #

    OK, let’s pretend you’re some bigshot with lots of political enemies. You’re in your hotel room minding your own business, when this hotel maid walks into your room, and starts screaming RAPE, and then runs off. What r u going to do, wait till the cops arrive and take you to a Harlem jail cell where you get baloney sandwiches on white bread with Catsup? If I were you, I’d leave my cell phone behind and hurry off to a country where they give you brioches for breakfast in prison. And the maid? Ah, what wouldn’t people do for a few thousand dollars… I don’t know if he really did that or not… but most 62 year olds I know aren’t driven by their hormones anymore (not without Viagra anyway). All of you who already convicted the poor slob, remember about that nonsense about the due process. On the other hand, maybe he really did it, remember Lisa Nowak? Or Bill Clinton for that matter? People do strange things.
    THanks JHK for another installment of razor-sharp metaphors.

  185. Vlad Krandz May 16, 2011 at 9:46 pm #

    And a steady state economy presumers a steady state population with little or no immigration. Foiled again Joker.

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  186. CaptSpaulding May 16, 2011 at 9:47 pm #

    Hey PoC, I showed this blog to the bass player in our band & then pointed out the pissant’s remarks for him to read. He swears up and down that the pissant is about 14 years old, nobody older could possibly be that lame. He then suggested I change pissant’s name to asswipe, only in honour to the French this week, we could pronounce it ahs-wee-pay. I have to say that it has a certain international ring to it. Of course now he wants to see the pissant’s really cool put down of this post, so I promised him I’d save it for him. Yoo Hoo, are you out there pissant?(I’m so excited, I can hardly wait). Show and tell is way fun.

  187. tucsonspur May 16, 2011 at 9:54 pm #

    “Sounds like a Cass Sunstein move to me”
    It seems like a neat theory, but I don’t believe it has any validity. What would be the payoff for Trump? More power, more money? An ambassadorship?
    Regulations in his favor? He already builds and does business wherever and whenever he wants.
    From the outset, I don’t believe Trump was serious about helping the country. It was a giant publicity stunt, with little value at risk considering the gigantic boost to the Trump trademark.
    Trump has been criticizing Obama for some time now, and I believe that he genuinely dislikes the man. At least, he did so for some time. Trump has always disliked what minorities have done to New York-make it barely tolerable. He may even be racist at the core.
    Then there are the innate personality differences. Trump is business, bluster, and “Broadway”, while Obama is cerebral, reserved, and contained.
    And the states’ ballot disallowal? Not a chance at this stage of the game. Btw, Brewer vetoed that bill here in Arizona.
    All in all though, it gave me something to think about. That Sunstein is cagey!

  188. ctemple May 16, 2011 at 10:11 pm #

    This IMF guy that got arrested looks something like Bernie Madoff to me in the pictures I’ve seen

  189. diogen May 16, 2011 at 10:12 pm #

    >Yep, I’m proposing that we switch to renewable >energy.
    Already did. Love to see the electric meter spin backward, better than TV any day of the week. My water cistern is full, and so are rain barells for the garden, enuff H2O for the entire growing season. Most lights are LED (why people think that $10 for a lightbulb that last 10 years is too much, but $10 for a steak that lasts 10 minutes is OK?????)
    Got a separate solar panel for the attic fan, the hotter the son scheins, the cooler the attic gets.
    Gave away the clothes dryer, the clothe dry perfectly well on the clothline outside (use the sunroom in the winter, works well). THe Prius sits in the driveway most days, biking is more fun. Our utility bills are mostly for water and sewer (can’t disconnect unfortunately), and the Internet of course… but my backward spinning electrical meter pays for a good part of that. In Germany pig farmers are making more money from electricity they sell from their pig-shed mounted solar panels than they do from pork. Germany is the world’s biggest consumer of solar panels. Could America (gasp) learn from Germany? Nah

  190. diogen May 16, 2011 at 10:17 pm #

    What, Vlad defending Strauss Kahn and Dershowitz, both jews? See, men do inexplicable things at times.
    Or maybe I should ask, who are you and what did you do with Vlad?

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  191. progressorconserve May 16, 2011 at 10:19 pm #

    -a swi pe is 14 years old-
    Maybe, Captain, but I think lil’ jimjim let some accurate information about himself slip out this morning:
    “but I have a bike I use, have been gardening for over 40 years and am a son-of-a-bitch when members of my household leave lights burning. But that doesn’t mean dick. We can’t pretend that windmills and tide generators are going to be enough. They aren’t. We’ll need to conserve and put to work all forms of energy.
    -lil’jimbo
    Pure Limbaugh/Hannity/RW talking points and defenses. Bless his lil’heart.
    We really need an articulate spokesperson for the RW and their overpaid talking heads to post on CFN on a regular basis.
    lil’jimbo/jimjim/tootsie just can’t understand that he is being banned for his insults and pointless invective – and for the “fucktard torpedoes.” tm Cash
    He’s not being banned for expressing his ideas – which are, occasionally, pretty good.
    JHK wouldn’t ban a man for 40 years of gardening, bike riding, and being a son-of-a-bitch, now, would he?

  192. diogen May 16, 2011 at 10:36 pm #

    >and often take much more than their fair share of >everything
    Hey Girl, don’t you think that black and asian guys in power in africa and asia take as much if not more percentwise that white guys in their corner of the earth, or r u saying they are more virtuous than white guys? WHat a shame that an intelligent woman like you has to resort to rhetorical argument to score a point.

  193. helen highwater May 16, 2011 at 10:49 pm #

    Hey Grouchy Old Girl, don’t forget that Canada (my country too) jumps right in to help the US “police the world”. Canada is currently involved in wars in Afghanistan and Libya, with no end in sight for either. And if we’d had a Conservative government at the time, we’d probably be in Iraq too.

  194. helen highwater May 16, 2011 at 10:56 pm #

    Canada supplied the uranium that the US used to make the atomic bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

  195. asia May 16, 2011 at 10:59 pm #

    How Much Similarity to Ruth Stouts methods are yours?
    And what was in the background in the picture in Macon?

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  196. asoka May 16, 2011 at 11:53 pm #

    The Obama Justice Dept. seems about to go after these banks for mortgage fraud:
    Bank of America
    JPMorgan Chase
    Wells Fargo
    Citigroup
    Ally Financial
    Those seem to be rather large and well-connected institutions to be engaging in systematic fraud, to be foreclosing on military veterans (a violation of federal law), to be robo-signing documents, and to be cheating home buyers using various other fraudulent means.
    I guess Obama is not afraid of who he goes after, if they be wrongdoers.

  197. asoka May 16, 2011 at 11:58 pm #

    CORRECTION:
    They foreclosed on active-duty military service members (a violation of federal law).
    Imagine coming home from the war and finding the bank has taken your house.
    And then you find out it was an illegal home seizure based on fraudulent lending or defective securitization practices or faulty foreclosure documents.

  198. asoka May 17, 2011 at 12:41 am #

    For you CFNers who believe in collective action, this coming full moon is the Wesak Full Moon, commemorating the birth, enlightenment, and passing of the Buddha.
    Each one of us is a Buddha.
    The yearly festival of the Wesak Full Moon is celebrated by millions around the world, generating a powerful force field for engendering peace on Earth and the attainment of Buddha Mind, also known as Christ Consciousness.
    Meditation and prayers are greatly magnified by the collective attention on this full moon.

  199. Qshtik May 17, 2011 at 1:14 am #

    Asoka, I don’t give two hoots about your Buddha bullshit or your thermodynamics-based anti-capitalist economic theories. What I want to know is your explanation slash theory slash answer (seeing as you portray yourself as a black expert-on-everything) to the questions I posed in last weeks thread. Namely, to paraphrase, what are the psychological underpinnings of the black penchant for wearing ball caps all goofy and askew?

  200. Patrizia May 17, 2011 at 1:27 am #

    Well, there is always a good side…
    At least you came back…

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  201. Patrizia May 17, 2011 at 1:38 am #

    “See, men do inexplicable things at times.”
    I wouldn´t call them inexplicable.
    They are much more common than what people think. And I would even say, from what we read, they are “normal”.
    These men are used to believe they can and own everything, so what they do is always beyond the “usual” people.
    May be also them are “used”.
    Everything is OK as long as they behave or they are useful, when they do not anymore, they are reminded they are just “human”

  202. Shakazulu May 17, 2011 at 2:00 am #

    “Quelle horreur! A French convict serving thirty years for tunneling into a Toulon bank gets a brioche, at least!”
    Funniest post in months. Really rich. You need to write the next 3 months posts when your creative juices are flowing like this.
    “Sources tell me that Attorney General Eric Holder has been using the report as a cocktail coaster.”
    Have your sources told you what use the SEC reports are put to?
    “maybe Lloyd Blankfein will fly out of a broom closet in Jackson Hole this summer dressed like Norman Bates’s mother and commence to paddle Ben Bernanke”
    TMZ would love to have the video!

  203. Vlad Krandz May 17, 2011 at 2:20 am #

    I can mention a Jew or two without that being a defence of them. A rapist and a Zionist – please. Sorry I don’t foam at the mouth enough for you.

  204. bubbleheadMarc May 17, 2011 at 7:41 am #

    Sounds about right to me Helen. The early bomb projects have been referred to as the Anglo-American bomb by some historians. Then later when the British started doing some of their own bomb projects they used the Australian outback as their test range, just as we used Nevada. Canadian forces were also issued nuclear weapons for use in anti-aircraft batteries such as the Army Nike, which was designed to hammer formations of Soviet bombers with air-bursts. The British and American navies now actually draw their submarine lauched trident missiles from a common stock kept in King’s Bay, Georgia. The Canadians also bought their last class of diesel-electric submarines from the British, who now focus more on nuclear boats including the enormous Vanguard class. These naval names get passed along. Vanguard was also the name of the last British battleship which was still around for the current Queen’s first naval review at Spithead during the Korean war era.

  205. MarlinFive54 May 17, 2011 at 7:42 am #

    I don’t think this story about Strauss-Kahn has legs, as they used to say in the newspaper business. In a few days or so, if not completely forgotten, will be buried on page 7 in the B section of the local shopper, underneath a blurb about the local town meeting. I’ll be damned if I can find anything about the nuclear meltdown in Japan, action in Libya, mass political murder in Syria in the media. I mean, I can research these events because I’m interested in what is happening, but as far as the public is concerned they are already off the radar, something that happened a long time ago. The movie “To big to Fail” is premiering soon, as if the financial meltdown of 3 years ago is already a historical event, something to look back on while we merrily get on with our lives.
    Somebody here, I think it was Ibendet, posted that networks like CNBC, Bloomberg and Fox Business are largely machines of disinformation and propaganda, disseminating lies, always talking about the “RECOVERY” we are in, painting a rosy picture and reassuring proles like myself that everything is ok, don’t believe what you see with your own eyes in your towns and cities, believe what we tell you here from our studios in NYC.
    Jim, when is Walmart going to begin giving out free stuff? Three weeks from May 15? I will be showing up there with my pickup, ready to load up.
    RipT, how ’bout all this rain? A solid week. Hard to get anything done. Living ’round here I’ve learned not to make any plans that involve any outdoor activity. Its a recipe for disappointment.
    Ozone, I’ve been listening to the CD you gave me. Good stuff! Did you write those lyrics? Let me know where you’re going to appear next, I’d like to bring my wife to see the show. Just for starters I know she’d love your version of “Over the Rainbow”.
    Well, I’ll be trying to get lettuce and cuke seeds in the ground today, dodging raindrops and lightening.
    -Marlin
    El Toro Farm
    La Casa de la Dolce Tomantinos

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  206. messianicdruid May 17, 2011 at 8:26 am #

    “But with all currencies spiraling towards worthlessness, and even gold and silver hemorrhaging value, what is the world of money coming to?”
    Quality vs. quantity. Consider lower prices for metals a gift caused by misplaced faith. They know what is of intrinsic value compared to their currency, and use worthless paper to obtain it.
    The way to change the system is to quit participating in it using their paper. Unless you compost it after use.

  207. lbendet May 17, 2011 at 8:51 am #

    Good morning Marlin,
    I love to think of the news cycle as a soap opera. At first its as if a story was the only thing happening in the world, then it’s all forgotten. Most people don’t pay attention to begin with, but many inquiring minds want to know what has developed since… In the case of Japan’s meltdowns, it could effect your life, depending on what you eat. (& we’re holding off on sushi these days)
    There’s a graphic novel titled “As the World Burns: 50 Simple Things You Can Do to Stay in Denial” by Derrick Jensen
    That pretty much says it all.
    Yeah, the weather is pretty awful. Last season the corn at the green market was for the most part a bomb. Flavorless, I couldn’t find a decent ear for almost the whole summer. The farmer/vendors said it was because of a rainy, cool spring–here we go again.

  208. ccm989 May 17, 2011 at 8:59 am #

    Too bad we used Nevada to test nuclear weapons. Now most of their water aquifers are contaminated forever and Nevada is sinking into the desert. High plains water rights were bought up by T. Boone Pickens so I would expect water prices to skyrocket (higher than oil and much more vital). China is suffering from major drought too caused by massive overpopulation and poor agricultural practices. And of course all of our water may soon be contaminated from gas fracking.
    No safe, clean water is bad for everyone. And all the gold Krugerrands and designer handbags in the world won’t save you from drought. Saw a program on History Channel called Inspector America — he contended that if we fixed the infrastructures, we’d have more good paying jobs and safer bridges, tunnels and dams working for all of us. Of course, the Tea Party would go ballistic if the government raised the taxes even slightly because they don’t want to pay anything (but are very happy to collect entitlements like Social Security and Medicare for themselves). Dying from thirst is a very cruel way to go.

  209. lbendet May 17, 2011 at 9:00 am #

    Marlin,
    This one’s for you:
    I can’t get the url on this post, but if you look up opednews.com, there’s a post on Fukushima and food safety by Marianne Barisoneck.
    here’s the first paragraph.
    [Fukushima has just about completely fallen off the front pages. This is not because the nuclear power plants have stopped spewing radiation into the environment or because the situation is no longer dangerous. The only thing that’s been controlled is the media’s coverage of the disaster.]

  210. MarlinFive54 May 17, 2011 at 9:24 am #

    Yeah, Ibendet, I used to think that our own media was trustworthy and free, that manipulation of news and information for insidious political ends was something exclusive to totalitarian countries, mostly in the past, i.e. Goebbels ministry in Germany or Beria’s Pravda in the Soviet Union. I know longer believe that.
    -Marlin

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  211. MarlinFive54 May 17, 2011 at 9:27 am #

    I should say “I know no longer believe that”
    -Marlin

  212. lbendet May 17, 2011 at 9:47 am #

    Yeah, Marlin,
    One extreme is as bad as the other. In our case everything is politicized because everything represents big money to some special interest (even religion). When society values nothing but money and winning all the time, this is what you get.
    A new kind of tyranny.

  213. CynicalOne May 17, 2011 at 9:50 am #

    “Gave away the clothes dryer, the clothe dry perfectly well on the clothline outside”
    Yeah, it’s great. Until the birds shit on something and you get to wash it AGAIN. lol

  214. Raindogs May 17, 2011 at 10:13 am #

    Wow. They don’t call you the cynical one not for nothin’.

  215. trippticket May 17, 2011 at 10:18 am #

    “The way to change the system is to quit participating in it using their paper. Unless you compost it after use.”
    Love it.

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  216. trippticket May 17, 2011 at 10:19 am #

    “Gave away the clothes dryer, the clothe dry perfectly well on the clothline outside”
    Yeah, it’s great. Until the birds shit on something and you get to wash it AGAIN. lol

    Gave it away? I actually 75 bucks for mine, and I really do prefer line-dried clothes. Bird poo and all.

  217. progressorconserve May 17, 2011 at 10:59 am #

    Did any of you see the little news story this morning – where some woman was pulled off an Amtrack train and arrested for public nuisance/disturbance?
    Apparently she had talked, loudly, for 16 continuous hours before someone made the decision to have police intervene at a scheduled stop.
    My wife and I will be thinking about that little occurrence the next time the drive/fly/train decision is to be made for a big trip.
    You can also add stories like that into the reasons that it will be very hard to ever pry Americans out of their personal transportation devices and onto any sort of public transport.
    ==============
    Lbend and Marlin – nice interchange about news coverage in this country.
    Also, add in to the discussion the need to attract a viewing audience in ADD/OCD America – where *News?* has to compete with “Dancing with the Stars” for audience share and advertiser dollars.

  218. Raindogs May 17, 2011 at 11:33 am #

    I saw that.
    Her name was Lakesha.
    Can you imagine being a passenger on that train while she talked for 16 straight hours?
    She says she feels “disrespected” by the whole affair.
    Hell truly is other people ain’t it?

  219. LewisLucanBooks May 17, 2011 at 11:42 am #

    Mmmm. I disagree. As, a 62 year old 🙂 .

  220. Raindogs May 17, 2011 at 11:44 am #

    Hi, Welcome to Amtrak.
    Let’s see … your seat assignment is 14C, that puts you right, yes, right here. (you get settled in with the Kindle and one of those new inflatable neck pillows that are all the rage) Finally, you think to yourself, a chance to just relax and let someone else do the driving for a change, this was such a good idea, what with gas prices and all)
    Wait… What’s this now? … Oh dear God no…
    (280 pounds of lumbering behemoth coming down the aisle, talking to what sounds like someone named Ray Ray about a rapper who just was killed in a drive by and mmmm, child ain’t it a shame)
    Panic sets in, there are no other open seats. And then it begins…

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  221. LewisLucanBooks May 17, 2011 at 11:46 am #

    Sorry. On re-reading I see you said “most.” LOL. But I have to say, that when you’re old, poor and homely, plumbing that works doesn’t do you any favors. 🙂 .

  222. lbendet May 17, 2011 at 11:48 am #

    PC:
    Also, add in to the discussion the need to attract a viewing audience in ADD/OCD America – where *News?* has to compete with “Dancing with the Stars” for audience share and advertiser dollars.
    That’s exactly why some things are better left outside the “profit center”.
    Our media was superior when we didn’t pit the news against entertainment for the same dollars. We had better international news on the regular stations in the 60’s and 70’s than when we made the news corporate.
    And wouldn’t it make sense for the stations to have debates and statements from the politicians for free or nominal fees than to force politicians to raise billions to get their message out?

  223. MarlinFive54 May 17, 2011 at 12:47 pm #

    “Hell is truly other people, aint it.”, Raindog.
    I knew Sartre’ would make his way in here sooner or later.
    -Marlin

  224. messianicdruid May 17, 2011 at 12:48 pm #

    origin.[4]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_Strauss-Kahn
    He is jewish, a socialist, and if not a freemason himself, he is at least the son of a freemason(Grand Orient de France). The name Kahn is a version of Cohen, which is Hebrew for “priest.”
    As the head of the IMF, he is the Chief Moneychanger in the temple, and the priests are being cast out of the temple.
    Sit back and watch the show. The fireworks have begun.

  225. Vlad Krandz May 17, 2011 at 12:58 pm #

    I wonder what she was talking about? And with a name like Lakeisha, she must have been Sweedish.

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  226. asia May 17, 2011 at 1:01 pm #

    ‘China is suffering from major drought too caused by massive overpopulation and poor agricultural practice’
    Mao had a thing about CHOPPING DOWN TREES AND
    KILLING FLYS, both of which proved to be disastrous.

  227. Vlad Krandz May 17, 2011 at 1:07 pm #

    This is racism from the Left. Blacks talk endlessly about nothing and it’s very hard on Whites. Even Leftists are often pushed the end of their ropes. Thus the strategy of praising Blacks but living as far away from them as possible.

  228. messianicdruid May 17, 2011 at 1:13 pm #

    While you were asleep:
    http://boudicabpi.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/shariamerica/

  229. Cash May 17, 2011 at 1:13 pm #

    When you look at the behaviour of rulers, tyrants, aristocrats throughout history it’s hard to say that this race or that race is better, worse, greedier etc than any other.
    For the last few hundred years European civilization was ascendant and with more advanced technology than others so people make the mistake of saying that white men were/are better or worse or more rapacious than others. But our civilization looks like it’s decaying like all others before it and will be supplanted by something else.
    White men didn’t look to be so special during the dark ages and medieval periods when Europe was beset by invasion by asiatic peoples, Muslim civilizations etc. Didn’t look so special either when the Egyptians were building the pyramids and the Babylonians were building ziggurats and hanging gardens and the best we could do was Stonehenge.

  230. Vlad Krandz May 17, 2011 at 1:13 pm #

    Perhaps Trump did it as a favor – which he can call in later. Money needs power and power needs money. Also his daughter married into the Jewish Faith – actually converted. That might change things too as Jews are the most political people in America per captita.

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  231. Vlad Krandz May 17, 2011 at 1:17 pm #

    What’s you take on it though? Do you think it’s on the level or did he do something to offend the Lords of Babylon? I mean the no bail thing and Rikers treatment is extreme. Few of the even moderately rich have to go through this.

  232. LewisLucanBooks May 17, 2011 at 1:30 pm #

    Ah, yes. Hell is other people. I travel very little, but when I do, it’s Anthrax. As a friend of mine refers to it. And, even though I travel little, I have my stories too…
    A trip to Seattle. About 4 seats ahead was a young, early 20s couple. The young lady could not shut up. The whole trip. The young man said nary a word. He had that zoned out look on his face. What I refer to as the Prozac Smile. But I couldn’t help thinking to myself, “Buddy, marry her, and this is the rest of your life.”
    Another time: I got on the train and made to sit in one of those two facing seats. Only one young lady occupying. As I made to sit down, she said they were occupied by friends that were roaming the train. So, I sat across the way across from a nice young man who had disappeared into his laptop and ear buds.
    Before the next stop, it became apparent that the young Miss had no companions, but just wanted the 4 seats to herself. At the next stop, an enormous, man with poor personal habits plopped himself down across from her and preceded to hit on her all the way to Seattle. Every once in awhile I’d glance up from my book, catch her eye, and just give her the biggest shit eating grin I could muster. I travel seldom, but those are just a FEW of the stories I could tell.

  233. Cash May 17, 2011 at 1:34 pm #

    I said “horny old white guy” in recognition of the fact that old white guys are the rulers of the world – Grouchy
    This “rulers of the world” stuff sounds like white people’s chest pounding triumphalism even while it masquerades as condemnation.
    I think you’d get a lot of argument from the guys that run China and India about who’s calling the shots in those places. I seriously don’t think that “white guys” rule those countries. Put together they account for about 2.5 billion people. Awfully big chunk of the world. Plus both have nukes up to here.
    Also take into account a place like Pakistan with about 170 million people (plus nukes). You hear nowadays that the US should not be paying them a couple billion a year because of their bad behaviour. But the PTB in the US are afraid of stopping the payments. Why? Over fear of what the Pakistanis might do. So if the Americans are the ones shaking in their boots you might want to ask who’s got who by the tail.

  234. Cash May 17, 2011 at 2:04 pm #

    I think the first name said it better: British North America. After all, the document signed by Queen Victoria creating Canada was called the British North America Act. – BHM
    You’d hear CONSTANT whining up here about Canada’s identity. When I would say things like you just said: British North America, it was as if I was speaking in some obscure Kenyan dialect. Like I said in other posts it’s like we’re afflicted with cognitive blindness when it comes to national identity and culture. We can’t see what’s right under our noses.
    And you’d regularly hear jaw dropping idiocy like people here wanting to maintain a “separate identity” from the US. As if you could hardly tell the two apart. To American ears it must have sounded hilarious. Oh sure, Canada is just like the US. But when did our astronauts explore the moon? Do we have hundreds of millions of people, did we fight a bitter, brutal civil war, did we we have millions of our soldiers facing off against beastly regimes like the USSR and N. Korea, do we regularly spawn such enormously innovative and world changing businesses like GM, Apple, do we we have an enormous nuclear arsenal?
    So anyway I wouldn’t say that Canucks are largely American. But I would say that both the US and Canada are at root British. I think that the term “British North America” describes us both pretty well though our respective histories have diverged. You guys even have an elected king.
    Also, I don’t know what the latest census says but the old Loyalist stock that made up Upper Canada is quickly getting supplanted by waves of immigration. You come to Toronto and its vicinity and you just have to take a quick look around. Lots and lots of non white, non Northern European faces. Same with other cities like Vancouver: lot’s of Asian immigration. Many are second generation whose main language is English. In another generation their descendants ONLY language will be English.

  235. Cavepainter May 17, 2011 at 2:09 pm #

    Dorothy Parvaz, an Al-Jazeera journalist who previously was a reporter and columnist for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, has multi citizenships including the US, Iran and Canada. Dorothy has not been heard from since April 29th, when she arrived from Qatar at the Damascus airport. The media is focusing on her case not just out of concern for her individually but to highlight the problem of suppression of open reporting by journalist worldwide.
    Unreported is the question of which passport she was using in her travels; was it a US issued passport, or Canadian, or Iranian, or all three?
    This is not a secondary issue for me. I don’t see why the naturalization process for immigrants should leave them empowered with means of influence (duel or multi citizenship) beyond our borders any greater than that possessed by US citizens otherwise. “Citizens otherwise” don’t have voting rights in other nations nor other privileges attendant to citizen status in those other countries.
    On that basis I contend one’s US citizenship status should be immediately cancelled by use of passport of another nation, and with chance of restoration only through normal petition process as applied to all other “foreigners”.

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  236. JonathanSS May 17, 2011 at 2:28 pm #

    Way to go, line dryers! Just yesterday I was told by my MIL that line drying results in more wrinkles compared with a using a dryer. She also mentioned how much more effort it is to line dry.
    The things people convince themselves of in order to continue their behaviors. My two in-laws have a 35 ft RV, a Lincoln Town Car and household energy bills 4-5 times what my wife and mine are.

  237. rippedthunder May 17, 2011 at 2:51 pm #

    Hey Marlin, I wouldn’t rush those cuke seeds. They might rot in the ground the way this weather is looking. I was lucky and put the lettuce in a coupla’ weeks back. They are up and diggin’ this cool weather and rain , althogh a little sunshine would be nice! This rain on and off is killin’ me. Everytime I get set up another green monster comes through on the radar! And I ain’t talkin, bout Fenway!

  238. trippticket May 17, 2011 at 2:54 pm #

    “How Much Similarity to Ruth Stouts methods are yours?”
    Fairly similar. I’ve heard good things about Ruth Stout for years. I don’t think she dug up raised mounds though, and I find that to make a world of difference. Just used the same deep straw and hay mulches. I tried her method for growing potatoes and onions this season and didn’t have good luck with it. Since I’ve always done really well with the French Intensive school I’ll be ditching everything else.
    Of course I realize that this post does a lot to undermine my arguments about non-animal-integrated food production. You’re welcome. I do tend to let my chickens clean up the garden at the end of the season and add their manure to the equation before I rake up their mess and plant it again.
    “And what was in the background in the picture in Macon?”
    “Urban renewal”…apparently building a bunch of really nice houses in the ghetto will make the ghetto go away. That picture was taken while they were still working on infrastructure for the project. I don’t know of any of the houses selling yet…

  239. trippticket May 17, 2011 at 2:59 pm #

    “This rain on and off is killin’ me. Everytime I get set up another green monster comes through on the radar! And I ain’t talkin, bout Fenway!”
    You guys should feel free to share with us down here in dusty dry south Georgia. We ain’t seen rain in a long time. Although I was actually cold this morning when I did my rounds. Crazy for this time of year here.

  240. trippticket May 17, 2011 at 3:15 pm #

    Well, I disagree that active solar is our savior, but it sounds like you are doing quite well in the self-reliance department! I am putting up a solar attic fan, and potentially a tiny array to run a chest fridge and maybe the washing machine, after we’ve cut out most all of our electrical use. The way things are looking around here, a small wind turbine might be just as useful. (I’ll need to see a little rain again before I go forward with the cisterns!)
    But I always have to emphasize that if we make these jumps they follow some really serious powering down behavioral innovation. Like our power bill was $70 this month, but it needs to be less than half that in July before I start thinking about the switch. Sounds like you’ve already taken care of all that. Good for you, and good to see you around.

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  241. rippedthunder May 17, 2011 at 3:49 pm #

    Dryin’ on the line is the way to go. Ya gotta love that fresh stiff feeling it gives your sheets and cloths. I line dry outside in the winter if the weather is clear, takes a little longer but the dry cold air stills sucks the moisture out of the wash. I don’t have easy access to my attic, but my Mom always hung the wash up there in the winter. She carried it up the stairs three flights from the basement. She had it easy though, she wasn’t beatin’ em on a rock down at the creek! Break in the rain gotta go!

  242. rippedthunder May 17, 2011 at 4:03 pm #

    Ten GD minutes and now its pourin’ agin! MFMFMFMF

  243. tucsonspur May 17, 2011 at 4:14 pm #

    We can now add the mighty male Arnold to the list that will forever grow.
    It appears that he was doing a household staff member with his own member for a number of years.
    Result, another “love-child”.
    Hot porn topic, those maids. I wonder if it’s more the uniforms, or the subserviant position(s)?

  244. messianicdruid May 17, 2011 at 4:26 pm #

    “Do you think it’s on the level or did he do something to offend the Lords of Babylon?”
    Or both. Political ambitions that might concern Sarko, next year? Going back to do something for the Greek situation, that someone didn’t like? Pure speculation…

  245. LewisLucanBooks May 17, 2011 at 4:26 pm #

    We ain’t seen “crazy” yet. Just finished “Hot: Living Through the Next Fifty Years on Earth” by Mark Hertsgaard. Readable. Worth a look.

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  246. messianicdruid May 17, 2011 at 4:34 pm #

    “Pure speculation…” Maybe not so much…
    “Don’t underestimate how important Dominique Strauss-Kahn was in coordinating action” among European nations, El-Erian, the chief executive officer of Pimco, said in a Bloomberg Television interview on “In the Loop” with Betty Liu. “It’s the worst possible time to lose your general. You need the IMF to coordinate this global healing.”
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-17/greece-default-risk-increasing-since-arrest-of-strauss-kahn-el-erian-says.html

  247. asia May 17, 2011 at 4:56 pm #

    The photo made it look like a LAKE! not dirt or asphalt.
    What about Rudy Steiner? companion plants? yes? no?

  248. asia May 17, 2011 at 4:57 pm #

    but how many of them live carless?
    easy to listen to a sermon

  249. asia May 17, 2011 at 4:59 pm #

    And what of it?
    that doesnt make the Japs good guys in that war.

  250. Qshtik May 17, 2011 at 5:00 pm #

    but most 62 year olds I know aren’t driven by their hormones anymore (not without Viagra anyway).
    ===========
    I think there is a general misunderstanding about Viagra. It’s a woody starter. It doesn’t improve libido. Without the libido present your fucked …… or, should I say, NOT fucked.
    Testosterone works on libido but it’s VERY expensive. I once complained to my urologist that things were not going well “below the waterline” so he gave me an Rx for Testosterone. When I went to the Drug Store to pick it up and saw what it was going to cost I nixed it. The scene reminded me of that Jack Benny routine where a robber points a gun at Jack and says “your money or your life.” There is a long hesitation as Jack’s head slowly rotates toward the audience and he has an expression indicating the wheels in his head are turning. Finally, the exasperated robber says “WELL!?” And Jack says “I’m thinkin, I’m thinkin!”

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  251. asia May 17, 2011 at 5:01 pm #

    Yeah right!
    Its all a plot [I mean that sincerely]
    Do you know much about Rambo and what hes done with his dual citizenship?

  252. asoka May 17, 2011 at 5:35 pm #

    Cash said: “When you look at the behaviour of rulers, tyrants, aristocrats throughout history it’s hard to say that this race or that race is better, worse, greedier etc than any other.”
    ==============
    Here we disagree.
    Whites went to Africa and enslaved millions of Blacks; Blacks did not go to Europe to enslave Whites.
    Whites invaded the Americas and murdered millions of indigenous peoples. Indigenous peoples did not invade Europe and murder millions of Europeans.
    Whites, and only Whites in all of human history, have used atomic weapons on Asian civilians.
    Other non-white nations have atomic weapons, but only morally-challenged Whites have used them against other human beings.
    Whites set up systems of slaver, and apartheid, and Jim Crow, to torture and degrade and exploit other human beings with Black skin day after day for decades in countries all over the world. Blacks have not done such to Whites.
    Massive genocides murdering millions, massive systems of slaver, using nuclear weapons on civilian populations, etc. … no other race has done these things except White devils.

  253. Vlad Krandz May 17, 2011 at 5:40 pm #

    I agree with you Luke: women often talk to much. And it usually is completely personal and therefore not very interesting. If you try to offer practical advice, they aren’t interested – they just want to talk – AND HAVE SOMEONE LISTEN.
    And to get a man to listen to them like that poor fool was is an incredible victory.

  254. bubbleheadMarc May 17, 2011 at 6:02 pm #

    Good remarks. I do suffer from a certain antique outlook as the result of getting a history degree. I think that Canada is a great country and of course it is also bilingual, so there is even some similarity to other bilingual countries, which of course are numerous. Winston Churchill was once intrigued to discover that the red-coated bearskin cap wearing guards at the Canadian parliament were actually French speaking, but then England once occupied nearly half of France during the middle ages. Your incredible expanse of wilderness is also highly enviable. There’s also something to be said for the parliamentary system with a PM as indeed, as you pointed out, the presidency here is similar to constitutional monarchy in some respects. And it is also unfair to say that Canadians were simply “granted” their independence from the British when in reality Canada had to fight for its independence from the United States during the War of 1812, something which it did succesfully since of course American attempts to invade and annex Canada were unsuccessful.

  255. Vlad Krandz May 17, 2011 at 6:02 pm #

    Karmically speaking, you are destined to be born in a White Body next time around. What could be more poetically just? More necessary for your evolution than to wear the body of the Ones who demonize?

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  256. rippedthunder May 17, 2011 at 6:13 pm #

    I have so many birds in the back yard now. I feel like friggin’ Tippi Hedron. I don’t know if it’s rain, weather, or what. I’ve been in this house almost 30 years now! I’ve got birds wakin’ me up at 3AM there are catbirds, mockingbirds, orioles, grackles fightin’ with the robins and all sorts of territorial bird bullshit goin down! I can’t even sleep at night with the windows open. It has to be some sort of climate change crap goin’ down. Ihaver not seen an oriel around here since I was a kid in the ’60’s. Maybe I am parnoid but this is kinda strange. My apple trees had more flowers by far than I have ever seen.

  257. Qshtik May 17, 2011 at 6:19 pm #

    Can you imagine being a passenger on that train while she talked for 16 straight hours?
    ============
    Regarding cell phone impoliteness there are 8 million stories in the big city. I’ll tell just one.
    I was at the Ford dealer having some routine maintenance done that would take an hour or so. They had a waiting room with a dozen chairs, a bunch of dog-eared magazines, a free coffee machine from which gurgled a dark grayish-brown lukewarm liquid with a film on top in a tiny styrofoam cup with powdered milk and splenda. A TV in the corner near the ceiling was tuned to a morning chick talk show of the kind that will play in my fiery confines through eternity if I wind up in hell.
    The one vacant seat was next to a burly guy conducting business on a cell phone in a voice that suggested there wasn’t another person around within 50 feet. The other 10 people were immersed in their own worlds. One I recall being an Asian girl trying her damnedest to read a thick textbook.
    I tried not to listen to the blowhard next to me on the cell phone but it was impossible. I am certain the conversation with his staff back at HQ was a performance for us trapped rats and he was enjoying the hell out of this ego-trip.
    Every minute or two the gist of the one side of the conversation that I was privy to gave every sign that – thank God – it was about to conclude. But no, secretary Phyllis was instructed to get Juan on the horn, etc etc.
    I was starting to squirm in my seat, crossing my legs one way then the other, leaning back and looking straight up at a water stained ceiling tile for no particular reason and concocting scenarios how under other circumstances I might put an end to this effrontery. I envisioned myself as Mike Tyson in his prime with a black leather jacket and shades. I would rise from my chair, lean menacingly over the guy and say “excuse me sir but this phone conversation of yours is getting to be woo-duh-criss.”
    When I could stand it no longer I left the room and went out on the showroom floor and looked at cars. When approached by suited salesmen dressed like Tony Soprano’s henchmen I would point toward the shop and say “I’m just killing time.”
    The shop desk-guy came to tell me my car was ready and the burly guy was still on his cell.

  258. LewisLucanBooks May 17, 2011 at 6:28 pm #

    There are times when the movies “Falling Down” and “Serial Mom” make a lot of sense.

  259. bubbleheadMarc May 17, 2011 at 6:30 pm #

    Perhaps the oriole is really a covert surveillance device being perfected by the NSA in your back-yard.

  260. memoryhole May 17, 2011 at 6:40 pm #

    asoka,
    You can’t be serious with this BS about white people being uniquely violent and evil in the world.
    The Moors were inveterate slavers from the 8th century onward. Please peruse this article.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery
    It states…
    “It is estimated that [the Moors] captured 1.25 million slaves from Western Europe and North America between the 16th and 19th centuries.”
    The Moors also invaded Spain and Italy and came close to conquering all of Europe. They probably would have if Charles Martel hadn’t stopped them in France.
    Millions were killed in inter-African violence during the War in the Congo. About a half million were killed during the Rwanda genocide.
    Sure, America was the only country that ever used nukes, but it happened twice in quick succession in 1945 and hasn’t happened since. So it isn’t like the white race is dropping nukes as a regular way of solving its disputes. It was basically a one-time thing (hopefully!), so it doesn’t set up a precedent.
    And then if you’d like to bring Asians into this discussion, Mao killed about 20 million of his own people in China. The Cambodians killed millions of their own people.
    I mean seriously, this stuff about white people being the only ones to commit mass violence in the world is some of the dumbest stuff you’ve ever written on here. It is completely false, historically.

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  261. memoryhole May 17, 2011 at 6:46 pm #

    Whoever made up this idea that violence doesn’t solve any problems? Of course it does. Just look at nature. How do lions solve their hyena problem? They break their backs. How do hyenas solve their lion problem? They swarm them. (Just watched an awesome Lion/Hyena doc on the NatGeo.)
    Nature is violent. Humans are violent, too, in various ways. Deal with it.

  262. memoryhole May 17, 2011 at 6:49 pm #

    Should have told him to STFU. What is he gonna do, beat up an old man in the car dealership waiting room?

  263. memoryhole May 17, 2011 at 6:52 pm #

    RE: Canada
    I’ve been watching the reality TV series, Ice Road Truckers, which is surprisingly captivating. I like the human drama of it. Plus it is quite enlightening to see how the mines and oil/gas wells actually function. They are supplied by a fleet of trucks running on diesel fuel over frozen rivers, lakes, and even the Arctic Ocean. Pretty crazy.
    Canadians also seem very environmentally conscious. All the tailings and even dirty snow is carted out from the sites back to dump sites. I don’t know about the tar sands or shale oil though. That seems pretty nasty, environmentally speaking, both on the landscape and water supply.

  264. progressorconserve May 17, 2011 at 6:57 pm #

    “Whoever made up this idea that violence doesn’t solve any problems? Of course it does.”
    -memoryhole-
    Memory, I think your assertion is correct, in the proper situations.
    Only two things can negate it for a society:
    1. A error free system of law enforcement
    2. Some recourse to *religious* principles
    Maybe one of our atheists would like to tell us why humans are the only species that is uniquely qualified to evolve toward non-violence, without some version of #2, above.

  265. progressorconserve May 17, 2011 at 7:05 pm #

    MemoryHole, you’re on a roll!
    (i’m a poet & don’t know it)
    “I mean seriously, this stuff about white people being the only ones to commit mass violence in the world is some of the dumbest stuff you’ve ever written on here. It is completely false, historically.”
    -memoryhole to asoka-
    That gave me quite a charge.
    ‘Cause his “dumb stuff” list is so large.
    It made my laughter quake.
    You’re making no mistake.
    ============
    On an unrelated note – how many of you have seen this group running around the country in motor homes proclaiming, “The World Will End on May 21, 2011!”
    They were in Atlanta this weekend, so I’ve been seeing it on the local *news?*

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  266. memoryhole May 17, 2011 at 7:13 pm #

    prog,
    The overt type of violence involving injury or death to one’s person is not the only kind which exists.
    Law enforcement itself is a type of violence. Locking someone up for years in an 8 by 10 cell is certainly violence against the body.
    The fact that we eat meat necessitates the killing of billions of other animals. We are just shielded from this violence, as we pickup our meats at the supermarket and aren’t exposed to the massive bloodletting that our dietary habit requires.
    Civilization itself requires violence against the natural world and its species. Civilization owes ecology an apology, as they say.
    I disagree about your take on religion. Religion is violence against the mind, asserting a “celestial dictatorship,” as Hitchens used to call it, without rhyme or reason other than the whims of capricious priests and kings.
    Lack of religion is NOT a major cause of violence. Correlation is not causation. The rise in violence during the 20th century was more a matter of increasing populations, nationalism, and “improved” methods for dispensing violence, rather than any lack of religion.
    When Europe was extremely religious, it was also incredibly violent. I shudder to think what the religious wars of the 16th and 17th centuries would have been like had they possessed modern artillery, fighter jets, and automatic weapons. And people during those times justified their violence by saying God was on their side.
    Muslims are quite religious, and they like to justify their violence by pointing at passages from their holy book. It is interesting that the apocalypse-minded Israelis and the Holy War-obsessed Arabs seem to fit together like hand in glove.
    Anywho, this is an interesting topic of discussion, to say the least. I don’t think humans are particularly violent as compared with some other species on the planet. Insects, in particular, have some pretty barbaric habits, like eating their young, enslaving or exterminating rivals, etc. In fact, I think we learned a lot from them.

  267. progressorconserve May 17, 2011 at 7:26 pm #

    “Law enforcement itself is a type of violence.”
    -memory-
    Memory, I don’t necessarily disagree with you, except to say that lack of laws and enforcement leads to anarchy – which leads to violence.
    -and remember I said “an error free system” of law enforcement-
    “I disagree about your take on religion. Religion is violence against the mind, asserting a “celestial dictatorship,”
    -memory-
    I’m not necessarily talking about “organized?” religion, here.
    But, Memoryhole, even saying, “Do No Harm,” implies some sort of special belief system in common with humanity – which implies some sort of religion.
    some. sort.

  268. JonathanSS May 17, 2011 at 7:30 pm #

    Thanks for responding to ASO(selective memory)KA.
    Are whites inherently more violent, as Asoka suggests, or is it that the white people from those countries had the capability (technology, weapons, etc.) to exploit others?
    Self-interest, greed, materialism, power; all motivators.
    I’m not a biblical scholar, but I seem to recall that there is a mention about how one is to treat a slave. Could that be a contributory factor, as many Europeans who came to America, were Christian?

  269. memoryhole May 17, 2011 at 7:30 pm #

    “Maybe one of our atheists would like to tell us why humans are the only species that is uniquely qualified to evolve toward non-violence”
    Well, that is really a complicated topic worthy of a whole essay or book, but my short answer would be that it has to do with mutual self interest. In other words, if I don’t initiate violence against another party, they will presumably not commit violence against me, so long as I do not give them a reason to do it. So we’re both happy. Plus, those who commit violence are likely to be a victim of it, a la “Live by the sword…”, so it can be an effective survival strategy to abstain from it.
    When people are satiated in terms of food and other needs, they also do not need to resort to violence to obtain what they need, hence this is a major “goal” of civilization (keeping the multitudes’ mouths fed).
    Of course, the real world is messier than this, and there are all kinds of exceptions and caveats, such as people who decide violence will be their primary modus operandi, but “mutual self-interest” would be my capsule summary of why the world hasn’t gone completely Mad Max.
    Also, there is (or should be) a distinction between inter and intra-species violence. While inter-human violence is (relatively) rare, humans can be incredibly, unreasonably violent towards other species (seen any Passenger Pidgeons lately?).

  270. memoryhole May 17, 2011 at 7:41 pm #

    Human civilization has always been a violent enterprise, wouldn’t you say? I read a really interesting book called Technics and Civilization (or some other book by same author) which made the point that the king’s scepter has the form of a mace. In other words, the basis of hegemony is…do what the king says, or he’ll club your face in.
    There is a historical logic of survival of the fittest regarding empires, nations, peoples, etc. Those civilizations that weren’t able to at least defend themselves are no longer present and were conquered and absorbed, etc. Many of the most violent civilizations survived due to this brutal logic.
    Europeans ended up being so good at violence because Europe from about the 5th century up through the middle 20th century was a cauldron of different ethnicities engaged in almost constant war, as well as being a focal point for external invasion and aggression (mostly from the East). This lead to an accelerated technological progression of weaponry and technology right through WWI and WWII, though they’ve turned into cheese and brie-eating pacifists as of late (to quote my buddy GW).
    But are Europeans unique in this respect? Heck no. Who were the most successfully violent people of the Middle Ages? It was the Mongols, with their recurved bows and advanced hit and run tactics. Europeans just happened to get the upper hand by the 19th and 20th centuries.
    Whites are definitely NOT genetically more prone to violence. They just ended up being very good at it out of necessity.

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  271. memoryhole May 17, 2011 at 7:43 pm #

    Er, no, rather it was Technics and Human Development by Mumford.

  272. trippticket May 17, 2011 at 7:44 pm #

    “What about Rudy Steiner? companion plants? yes? no?”
    Like Rudolph Steiner. Like the Waldorf school of thought too. As for companion plants, I’ve come to the idea that there are a few combinations that DON’T work, like beans and onions, but that almost all others are beneficial when planted near each other. In particular I plant a lot of herbs everywhere (comfrey especially!). Yarrow increases the potency of anything around it, is a good compost catalyst, and a pretty decent styptic herb too. I kept it streetside in Macon just in case…

  273. trippticket May 17, 2011 at 7:46 pm #

    “(seen any Passenger Pidgeons lately?)”
    I was just talking about passenger pigeons not half an hour ago. Creepy.

  274. memoryhole May 17, 2011 at 7:59 pm #

    When you say religion, you’re really referring to the Christian one, aren’t you, and specifically modern sects that emphasize the New Testament.
    It was an old school Christian who said, “Kill them all. God will know his own.”
    Hm, that doesn’t sound very non-violent to me.
    There are and have been many religions that don’t espouse the “Love thy neighbor” ethic. Religion has been used as justification for war, murder, slavery, misogyny, mutilation, and every other barbaric practice.
    I don’t see then how religion is uniquely qualified to provide an ethical basis for non-violent human relations. Inate characteristics of human empathy and cooperation, as described by Richard Dawkins in Selfish Gene, for instance, form a much firmer basis for our behavior.
    Basing ethics on the unsubstantiated belief in a mystical being in the sky watching our every move is prone to its own severe failings. Because religion does not fall into the realm of logic, each person is allowed to come up with their own intepretation. It is really the ultimate in philosophical relativism. My God told me to kill you. And that’s that…no counter-argument or appeal to logic is possible, because religion is dogmatic, in both the personal and institutional sense. Have a nice day.
    Certain religions might be more favorable to ethics of non-violence, but religion is a big word and it encompasses a lot, like philosophy. It means many different things to different people. One man’s religion might tell him to be nice and treat everyone with respect while someone else’s might say kill and/or enslave all the non-believers.
    On the utilitarian end of things, if everyone used violence as a means of solving disputes, our mutally beneficial civilizaitonal arrangements would fall apart into anarchy (as you state), which does not benefit the vast majority of people. So again, we’re back to mutual self-interest.

  275. memoryhole May 17, 2011 at 8:02 pm #

    I’m not surprised. The extinction of the Passenger Pidgeon is the most obvious example of humanity’s extermination of another species for no reason other than the enjoyment of capricious cruelty.

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  276. rippedthunder May 17, 2011 at 8:05 pm #

    When I saw that oriel, I thought that sum’bitch waz eyeballin’ me funny. There was a pair of them also. A male and a female, probly tryin’ to throw me off the trail. I’m tellin’ ya’! It’s the NSA again. Don’t write back to me! I am on the watch list! I saw a guy before dawn today outside in one of my maple trees with a set of 3rd generation night vision googles. I waved to him but he was dressed as a raven and did not wave back. I guess he was trying to pull off a Poe bit, still is sitting, still is sitting
    Nevermore, Nevermore!

  277. memoryhole May 17, 2011 at 8:15 pm #

    This somehow seemed apropos, among other quotes from the same work…
    For the laws of Nature (as justice, equity, modesty, mercy, and, in sum, doing to others as we would be done to) of themselves, without the terror of some power, to cause them to be observed, are contrary to our natural passions, that carry us to partiality, pride, revenge and the like. (Hobbes, Leviathan)

    Gotta love him!

  278. Vlad Krandz May 17, 2011 at 8:26 pm #

    How can you be a multi-millionaire socialist? What does that mean? Shouldn’t they give their money away so as to become “equal”? Or is something else going on all entirely.

  279. Vlad Krandz May 17, 2011 at 8:32 pm #

    Yes to all you have said. Can anyone doubt that the madman Robert Mugabe would use nuclear weapons if he got his hands on them? Or that the vile Idi Amin would have as well? Asoka cannot forgive Whites for not letting his parents use the bathroom or something 50 years ago.

  280. messianicdruid May 17, 2011 at 8:56 pm #

    “Muslims are quite religious, and they like to justify their violence by pointing at passages from their holy book.”
    Your government at work:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErzxOz3Dzv8&feature=player_embedded#at=194

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  281. San Jose Mom 51 May 17, 2011 at 9:23 pm #

    Women talk to much? Well you post too much.
    Jen

  282. progressorconserve May 17, 2011 at 9:33 pm #

    You’re projecting, Mr. Memory H.,
    “When you say religion, you’re really referring to the Christian one, aren’t you, and specifically modern sects that emphasize the New Testament…”
    -memory, to PoC-
    My own religion is hard to pin down – it’s a cross between what MDruid calls “god in the mirror” and relaxed Thomas Jeffersonian Christianity.
    So, No. By religion, I’m referring to .something. .anything. that goes beyond selfish self-interest.
    Some say that secular humanism is the religion of Atheists. I don’t know about that.
    Sometimes (especially on CFN?) it appears that Science is the religion of atheists. I keep arguing that Atheists can not have Science all to themselves – that it should belong to everyone.
    ===========
    I think we’ve got these big brains, all this mental equipment geared to survival and reproduction (though we don’t like to acknowledge that reproduction is the whole evolutionary purpose of a big brain, binocular vision, opposable (why won’t this spell checker take “opposable?”) thumbs, complete digestive systems, or anything else in humans – though reproduction is readily acknowledged in other species)
    Some sort of religion/secular humanism is necessary to keep those big brains occupied – in *many?* people.
    Without it – at our present state of evolution – we might devolve into chaos. (That ORGANIZED religion may well kill us all with its Christian/Muslim bruhaha – is another question, altogether.)
    ===========
    One more shot – on mutual self-interest and cooperation leading to general non-violence as a survival strategy-
    That evolved over 100,000 years-plus ONLY WITHIN the tribal bands within which we lived.
    That system breaks down with mobility, anonymity, and large societies that make these things possible.
    Thus – law enforcement needs to become as error free as possible – until human evolution, maybe somehow, manages to catch up with today’s and tomorrow’s reality.
    Maybe, with some luck –
    and/or the blessings of God (god?).
    ===========
    What if our human species is the highest evolution that God has managed, so far, in the history of the Universe.
    So We are god. Can we believe in Ourselves, at least?

  283. Buck Stud May 17, 2011 at 9:38 pm #

    “On an unrelated note – how many of you have seen this group running around the country in motor homes proclaiming, “The World Will End on May 21, 2011!”
    What they really meant to proclaim is that on May 22, 2011 people will quit giving them the time of day.

  284. Vlad Krandz May 17, 2011 at 9:40 pm #

    Black Males have the highest levels of testosterone and therefore are the most violent. The crime statistics bear this out. That they haven’t had world wars or used atomic weapons is simply lack of organization and technology enough to do so. Black Women have much higher testosterone than White Women and can be quite dangerous in groups.

  285. progressorconserve May 17, 2011 at 9:54 pm #

    “Black Males have the highest levels of testosterone and therefore are the most violent.”
    -vlad-
    So, all those estrogen analogs in soybeans, plastics, and baby bottles are not working, eh?
    “Black Women have much higher testosterone than White Women and can be quite dangerous in groups.”
    -vlad-
    Vlad, ALL women are dangerous in groups.
    Have you not been to a Shopping Mall, lately?
    =========
    Seriously, though, I’m not sure you can conflate INDIVIDUAL tendency to violence with SOCIETAL tendency to violence.
    And always remember, socioeconomic status may make whites appear LESS violent – while blacks appear MORE violent.
    Not saying you’re always wrong, Vlad.
    Certainly not saying you’re always right, either.
    Just feeling an itch to argue and clarify things.

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  286. messianicdruid May 17, 2011 at 10:05 pm #

    “Without it – at our present state of evolution – we might devolve into chaos.”
    INSANE IS AS INSANE DOES…
    “The psychologist Carl Jung, overwhelmed by the ignorance of communist and collectivist movements given birth in his lifetime, often stated that if a man thinks he can abandon history, if he thinks he can exist without the teachings of the past, without connections to that which came before him, without individual relationships to cultural memory, then he is literally diseased. He is insane. Not surprisingly, most collectivists hate Jung. For, through his studies, he exposed the undeniable madness of centralization; a methodology that thrives on amnesia, reaps only catastrophe, and hurtles societies into the abyss.
    For a collectivist movement to take hold, it MUST erase root values, not to mention as much of the past as possible from the minds of the masses, and replace it with distraction. Sometimes its war, sometimes its poverty or famine, sometimes it’s another segment of the population that is villainized on the sacrificial alter of “progress”.”
    http://www.alt-market.com/articles/127-how-to-identify-members-of-the-collectivist-fringe

  287. asoka May 17, 2011 at 10:08 pm #

    Procon said: “And always remember, socioeconomic status may make whites appear LESS violent – while blacks appear MORE violent.”
    ========
    Vlad tries to minimize 3+ million deaths of Blacks between 1900 and 1970 by saying I am upset about my elders being denied going to the bathroom. Try lynching and wholesale expulsion. Try terrorism committed by Whites against Blacks.
    And as Procon notes, throughout most of American history, non-whites have had a significantly higher death rate than whites due to socioeconomic status.
    As there’s no natural reason for whites to live longer than non-whites, the cause for the higher death rate for Blacks must be social, as Procon also notes — rooted in poverty and manifesting itself in malnutrition, inadequate public health, substandard medical care, homicide, alcoholism, suicide and drug addiction.
    The death toll of racism for Blacks in the United States exceeds 3 million, but the evil of racism is really incalculable.
    Thanks, Procon, for your support.

  288. messianicdruid May 17, 2011 at 10:10 pm #

    “I don’t see then how religion is uniquely qualified to provide an ethical basis for non-violent human relations.”
    How many fingers do I have up?
    [ straw man ]

  289. progressorconserve May 17, 2011 at 10:27 pm #

    Vlad,
    I’m not saying you’re always right.
    I’m certainly not saying you’re always wrong.
    I am saying asoka is a sniveling weasel who is creating my agreement with him out of thin air.
    “Vlad tries to minimize 3+ million deaths of Blacks between 1900 and 1970 by saying I am upset about my elders being denied going to the bathroom”
    -asoka-
    3,000,000 deaths, where?
    due to what?
    ============
    and a lot of the lowered life expectancy for african-american blacks is due to their evolution in a arid and food scarce region.
    hypertension/hypertensive diseases are somewhat due to retention of salt(S)
    diabetes is due to obesity and genetically inappropriate diet for aa’s (african-americans)

  290. progressorconserve May 17, 2011 at 10:34 pm #

    “And as Procon notes, throughout most of American history, non-whites have had a significantly higher death rate than whites due to socioeconomic status.”
    -asoka, sniveling-
    ‘As there’s no natural reason for whites to live longer than non-whites, the cause for the higher death rate for Blacks must be social, as Procon also notes…”
    -asoka, prevaricating-
    Nasty, out of context shit, asoka
    I said nothing to justify this post.
    “Lies are dangerous things.”
    -anon-

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  291. asoka May 17, 2011 at 10:35 pm #

    Procon asks: “3,000,000 deaths, where?
    due to what?”
    ==============
    My source is the Statistical History of the United States (1976).
    As an example of my methods, consider this: in 1920, the death rate for whites was 12.6/1000, while for non-whites it was 17.7/1000.
    Now, if we multiply the non-white death rate by the estimated non-white population of 10,951,000, we find that there were approximately 193,833 deaths among non-whites in 1920.
    If they had died at the white death rate, however, there would only have been 137,983 deaths. Therefore, we’ve got 55,850 excess deaths caused by the socioeconomic handicap of not being white.
    Do the calculations for each decade and the excess deaths come to 3.3 million Blacks.

  292. CaptSpaulding May 17, 2011 at 10:37 pm #

    Well, PoC I agree that asswipe isn’t 14 years old, but that seems to be the level of his emotional development. As far as him being continually banned it’s simply because of the way he talks to people. You can tell a lot from someone by how they treat others. I’m quite sure he’s spent his life being put down by everyone in sight, and uses the internet to strike back. The joy of the internet for people like him, is that they get to say whatever they want, and don’t have to answer for it. I guarantee you he wouldn’t talk to people the way he does if it involved face to face dialog. I guarantee you he’s a physical coward, as well as emotionally stunted. As far as him being married & having a family, I suppose there may be a female pissant equivalent, but it’s hard to imagine him breeding successfully since all he produces is bile, not sperm. Just thank your lucky stars you didn’t have something like him for a parent. His personality ensures that when the long emergency happens, he’ll wind up as mulch in someone’s garden. Oh well, Hi De Ho, so it goes.

  293. asoka May 17, 2011 at 10:40 pm #

    Procon said: “Nasty, out of context shit, asoka
    I said nothing to justify this post.”
    ===========
    Thanks for addressing me directly, Procon.
    I harbor no hard feelings toward you and appreciate your direct response.

  294. progressorconserve May 17, 2011 at 11:06 pm #

    Funny that you should post now, Captain, as I was just engaging a so ka, as you posted, concerning
    a swi pe, as you have named him.
    “The joy of the internet for people like him, is that they get to say whatever they want, and don’t have to answer for it. I guarantee you he wouldn’t talk to people the way he does if it involved face to face dialog.”
    -CaptainSpaulding, concerning a swi pe –
    Captain, I agree with you – in large part – concerning a swi pe. (aka jimjim/lingling/layaway/lil’jimbo, etc) His language is due to something nasty and unknown – and it does coarsen the dialog here on CFN.
    But I do think that “layaway/lil’jimbo?” has his heart in the right place as US citizen. Except he’s absorbed so much misinformation from the Fox/Rush/media – that he can’t find truth.
    ==========
    Asoka, aka TrollII, however – has fewer excuses. He sees clearly, generally. Yet he poisons the dialog on CFN with consistently indefinite weaselings – and a pernicious floating racism.
    Between the two, I’d take jimjim’s insults and nasty language –
    – over asoka’s dissemblings, prevarications, and acknowledged black/brown racial favortism –
    although I would not want to live near either of them, I strongly suspect – in the real world.

  295. Vlad Krandz May 17, 2011 at 11:54 pm #

    Perhaps a kind of Pantheism? I don’t have all my books anymore but there’s a wonder quotation from Albert Schweitzer as he crossed a river in Africa full of all kinds of animals – the Phrase “Reverence for Life” posessed him mind with great joy. I wish I had the actual quotation for you. For him, it was a transforming experience.

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  296. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 12:04 am #

    You counter attack without denying it – you know that’s it True! A classical feminine tactic. Bad women would lie by denying it just to win. You wont tell a lie to win but you still want to win or at least not let me win. You would have to pay thousands of dollars for the kind of self knowledge that I give you for free. I hope you appreciate this.
    I have been posting alot – my physical life has been a bit stagnant lately. I have taken vigorous steps to change that and it will change within a few weeks. Meanwhile I enjoy this. For those who don’t care for me – why, they can just scroll on by. That’s the difference between the printed word and people talking – the latter is much, much more intrusive just because of the way we are built.

  297. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 12:18 am #

    Two factors Soak. First, we are different sub species. Just as different breeds of dogs have different average life spans, so do the races of man. The East Asians live longer than Whites, do we cry racism? To whom would we cry and who would care? Least of all the East Asians. We have to learn to ignore you people.
    More evidence: Black women have more twins and a higher rate of premature births. This is found at all socio-economic levels. So fie on racism – it’s innate. Also a drug that does nothing for White heart patients, works wonders for Black heart patients. Differnt sub species.
    The second factor is cultural and socio-economic: Blacks don’t take care of themselves very well. Neither the traditional Southern Diet nor the fast food urban diet are good. And the tale grows worse: since Blacks destroy commerce with theft, supermarkets don’t want to set up in the ghetto. In some places, Blacks have a hard time getting food apparently.
    Poor Whites don’t take care of themselves either. Don’t know if it’s better or worse than Blacks or if it has even been studied. But percentage wise, more Whites take better care of themselves than Blacks by a goodly margin.

  298. truthteller May 18, 2011 at 12:34 am #

    Those kinds don’t like ladies to talk too much . . . we tend to make too much sense, J, and it annoys the shit out of them 🙂

  299. truthteller May 18, 2011 at 12:37 am #

    You were before and remain, an ass 🙂 Perhaps you and Bustin can get together and work on those mad skills with the ladies 🙂 Certainly can’t hurt 🙂

  300. Qshtik May 18, 2011 at 12:49 am #

    Perhaps someone can help me out here. I have tried 6 times to post a reply to a comment posted by someone on Monday. Each time it was held for review – which we all know means it will never see the light of day. Luckily I had saved a copy in an email to myself. But on my 6th and final attempt I retyped the entire reply in the comment box rather than copying from my saved email. All in vain.
    Each time I made certain edits to make sure there was nothing offensive – no swearing, nothing against any racial group, etc. All to no avail and yet in between these attempts I made 2 other postings unrelated to the post that keeps failing to go through.
    Anybody got any ideas what’s going on here?

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  301. tucsonspur May 18, 2011 at 5:22 am #

    I wish I could be of some help Q, but all I can do now is talk about watermelons.
    “Watermelons have been bursting by the score in eastern China after farmers gave them overdoses of growth chemicals in wet weather, creating what state media called fields of “land mines”.
    All of those with exploding melons apparently were first time users of the growth accelerator forchlorfenuron. It is allowed in the U.S. on kiwi fruit and grapes.”
    That chemical is allowed in China also, but they seem to be going apeshit in the use of both legal and illegal pesticides and other chemicals.

  302. bubbleheadMarc May 18, 2011 at 7:40 am #

    To be a multi-millionaire socialist all you need to do is first, become a multi-millionaire, and then second, vote for the socialist party in elections. You would then be a multi-millionaire socialist. Socialism is not communism in which everyone is the same and leads a hive-like existence in public housing. Basically, anyone who is willing to pay their fair share of taxes could be considered a good socialist no matter how rich they are. If the Kennedy family can be democrats in spite of their great wealth then so could others of similar means be socialists.

  303. lbendet May 18, 2011 at 7:56 am #

    Q,
    The only times I have a problem posting is when I have a URL that gets rejected, otherwise I can only suggest that you’re having an internet connection issue, unless this is the only site that this problem comes up.
    _______________
    Vlad (and to some extent ProCo)
    I can’t make sense of your minimizing Asoka’s historic angst to which bathroom his granddaddy had to use to the whole of which African Americans have been subjugated.
    If you honestly want to make points on racial superiority why do you need to deny historic truths on racial inequality. We all know the way Jim Crow laws were used against African Americans and poverty does in fact affect life spans. Access to healthy foods are an issue with hypertension, for instance.
    Without going into a lot of issues here, you may not agree with Asoka’s statistics, but in essence, he isn’t off-base.
    Your whole raison d’etre for being on this blog is to argue white supremacy and to substantiate your reasons for bigotry, but you hurt your argument by minimizing historic and institutional bias that does have an impact of life-spans and economic status.
    If you can be racist, why are you attacking him for doing the same– Double Standard?

  304. MarlinFive54 May 18, 2011 at 8:02 am #

    MessCrude;
    Interesting post about Carl Jung and collectivism.
    I stayed up all night (no big feat, I work 3rd shift at a newspaper. It was my night off) reading “Dupes, How America’s Adversaries Have manipulated Progressives for a century”, by Paul Kengor, 2011.
    KGB files are still open in Moscow and St. Petersburg for inspection and research. Alot of interesting facts, buried for decades, are now seeing the light of day.
    It turns out that almost all the leftist movements in the US, dating back to 1918, had been bankrolled by the Comintern in Moscow, funneled thru CPUSA, including Obamas good friends and supporters Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn and the Weather Underground. In the Soviet Union vicious athiest organizations like ‘The Committee of the Godless” and ‘League of Atheists’ also had their own budgets for international work, which they employed in the US thru Columbia University and the U of Chicago.
    This is a big book, 600 pages, and there is a lot in here. Columbia University looms large as ground zero for Comintern influence in the US, mostly due to Communist faculty like Corliss Lamont (The Billionaire Bolshevik, Gfather of Ned Lamont), and John Dewey.
    Here’s some other good stuff.
    *It was Ayers and Dohrn who planted the bomb in SF police headquarters that killed a one officer and maimed another. It remains an open case. Just this spring the police union in SF called for their arrest. (Does anybody think that will happen?)
    *Henry Wallace attempted in 1948 to get the KGB to bankroll his presidential bid that year.
    *Using back channels thru his friends in the KGB Ted Kennedy attempted the same thing in 1980.
    Here’s the best one, more relevant for us today. Jeff Jones, Weather Underground stalwart, domestic terrorist, Maoist, you name it, at the behest of Harry Ried and Obama, as the head of some organization called the Apollo Alliance, was the chief author of the $800 billion ‘stimulus bill’ passed shortly after Obama was immaculated in 2008.
    That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Its worse than anybody ever thought. Kengor suggests that there is much, much more in those KGB files to be revealed in the future.
    I can’t wait.
    -Marlin

  305. MarlinFive54 May 18, 2011 at 8:31 am #

    Oh, I forgot to mention the best of all.
    It was Bernadette Dohrn who came up with the Weatherunderground salute of 4 fingers held aloft. It represented the fork stuck in Sharon Tate’s pregnant belly when the Manson family came a calling one Aug. nite in 1969.
    Here’s the quote, “Dig it! First they killed those pigs. Then they ate dinner in the same room with them. Then they shoved a fork into the victims stomach! Wild”
    This is the woman who sponsored the Soiree that kicked off Obamas presidential campaign in Chicago in 2006. And she teaches children in a classroom.
    It almost beggars belief.
    -Marlin

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  306. bubbleheadMarc May 18, 2011 at 8:37 am #

    You may have typed in the password using all caps by mistake having depressed your CapsLock key. It took me ages to figure out how to do the URL properly so I was [self] prevented from posting as well. But then later I was blocked by the problem related to caps instead of lower case letters.

  307. lbendet May 18, 2011 at 8:44 am #

    Marlin,
    Just because someone wrote a book, doesn’t make it all factual.
    I would just like to add that the Koch Bother’s father, Fred, the co-founder of the John Birch society made a fortune working for Stalin on oil infrastructure. Does that mean that the tea party was essentially bankrolled by Stalin?
    Maybe McNamara was a KGB agent as well. I guess what I’m saying is that people are capable of coming up with ideas all by themselves without getting “ideas” from the KGB.

  308. Buck Stud May 18, 2011 at 8:51 am #

    ” Karmically speaking, you are destined to be born in a White Body next time around. What could be more poetically just? More necessary for your evolution than to wear the body of the Ones who demonize? ”
    For all of your erudite posturing, you’re not all that bright, are you Vlad? I mean come on, if you really believe what you wrote above – or is it just another Krantz “joke”– surely it is a double-edged sword that cuts both ways, karmic-ally speaking. But I guess the larger concern in your instance might be a return to human form, never mind any talk of the divine or ethnicity. All of your cruel and cutting ethnic pejoratives – surely there is a yard lantern sculpture, spray painted black, just waiting to receive the repackaged spirit of Vlad Krantz in your next go-around.
    Oh I know. The sharp, cutting sword that Krantz swings is single-edged. The opposite edge, block-shape dull, clumsy, and stropped to a prefect mirror finish, provides a perfect metaphorical reflection of the one swinging it.

  309. progressorconserve May 18, 2011 at 9:54 am #

    LBendIt-
    Here’s what I said to Vlad:
    “Seriously, though, I’m not sure you can conflate INDIVIDUAL tendency to violence with SOCIETAL tendency to violence.
    And always remember, socioeconomic status may make whites appear LESS violent – while blacks appear MORE violent.
    Not saying you’re always wrong, Vlad.
    Certainly not saying you’re always right, either.”
    And I was pointing out what is a common logical error in the thinking of racists in general and Vlad in particular – that all negative differences in people(s) are due only to race.
    It would have been informative for Vlad and me to argue it out. But we never will, at least this time – because Asoka took those few words of mine, appended his OWN truths, half-truths, and lies –
    and ended any possible discussion that might explore new material on CFN – for some of us.
    That’s why Asoka was christened Resident Impediment on CFN, months ago.
    He certainly lived up to the sobriquet at 10:08 last night. There is nothing of value in that post of his – to honest discussion of racial attitudes. It generated heat but not light. It was a complete impediment to honest dialog.
    ===============
    It is interesting how Vlad can openly admit to being a white supremacist (sorry, Vlad – that’s the way your most divisive arguments come across) and some of the thread vilifies him automatically and rejects ALL of his ideas.
    Asoka hides behind veiled black/brown supremacy – and he gets a pass, and sometimes support, from many posters of this same CFN thread.
    Racism is racism – regardless of how it is practiced, or by whom.

  310. lbendet May 18, 2011 at 10:13 am #

    Sorry PC,
    But I honestly believe that Asoka would not have gone down this road if it weren’t for the incessant race-baiting…he fell into a trap and now he can’t get out. I know it was his free will to respond, but I guess who you are is an emotional thing…
    A. was discussing many subjects other than race, but now he’s being tarred and feathered because he made some counter arguments which are fallacious in reaction to the fallacious.
    A. should move on….

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  311. messianicdruid May 18, 2011 at 10:27 am #

    “Just because someone wrote a book, doesn’t make it all factual.”
    Does it make any of it factual?
    Does it even make you wonder?
    We are all mesmerized to some degree, so it is incumbent on each of us to “burn our idols”. Pointing out the failings of the “others” doesn’t cleanse us of our responsibility.
    It is like standing in bullshit up to your knees and pointing at someone who is in it up to his waist and some how feeling better about it.

  312. progressorconserve May 18, 2011 at 10:42 am #

    Poor sad Asoka, hey, Lbend?
    “race-baiting…he fell into a trap and now he can’t get out.”
    I appreciate your analysis but respectfully disagree, LBend. Asoka IS a racist. Q called him on it weeks ago and Asoka has never once denied it.
    And that’s OK, in my book. This discussion thread could use an honest black man/woman who argues in favor of black racism and as a counter to white racism.
    Instead of that, Asoka parses the words of others to misquote and distort them – and in doing so, impedes what could be informative dialog.
    OH well.
    Then regarding Vlad:
    “Your whole raison d’etre for being on this blog is to argue white supremacy…”
    -lbend, to vlad-
    Here, I agree – in the main. Vlad and I went round and round over the definitions of white separatism/racism/supremacy/whatever – months ago, on CFN.
    Vlad claims to represent American Renaissance which claims to be a white separatist organization. I point out that his rhetoric trends toward white SUPREMACY – and that’s where the divisiveness can never end – until the thoughts and rhetoric change.
    Oh, well – it’s a magnificent day and I’m going to rebuild a chicken coop and plant some more corn, squash, and tomatoes – and then mulch potatoes and peanuts, which are growing like crazy.

  313. asoka May 18, 2011 at 11:05 am #

    Procon hilariously said: “[Asoka] ended any possible discussion that might explore new material on CFN – for some of us.”
    ==============
    Yes, my word is law on CFN and don’t you forget it!
    LOL!
    Discuss whatever you want procon. I promise to only comment sporadically.

  314. MarlinFive54 May 18, 2011 at 11:11 am #

    “oh well, its a magnificent day and I’m going to rebuild a chicken coop and plant some corn … ” PoC
    I envy you, sir. We’re on our 5th straight day of rain, with no end in sight. And and at times its a heavy rain. I’m working on a poem. So far all I have is a an opening line –
    “I was waiting for Spring
    But spring never came …
    -Marlin
    El Toro Farm
    “la Casa de la Dulce Tomantinos”

  315. MarlinFive54 May 18, 2011 at 11:14 am #

    Question;
    Is it possible that Vlad and Asoka are one and the same, posting under different handles, punking us, as they say now?
    -Marlin

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  316. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 11:31 am #

    The super rich love Socialism because it destroys social mobility and insures that they will stay on top forever. Do you really think the Clintons, the Kennedy’s, and the Strauss-Kahns are good? I say they use the illusion of goodness to promote their agenda of world conquest. We have to invade the Middle East to give them Democracy (which the Founding Fathers hated) and to build abortion clinics.

  317. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 11:34 am #

    “Basically, anyone who is willing to pay their fair share of taxes could be considered a good socialist…”
    Perhaps you would wish to share what a “fair share” of taxes would be?

  318. Cash May 18, 2011 at 11:35 am #

    Sure, America was the only country that ever used nukes… – MH
    Montsegur it would be interesting to hear your take on this.
    In my mind the problem is this: what would have been the alternatives? An invasion of the main Japanese islands? A negotiated peace? An American abandonment of the war effort? Turn tail and go home?
    What would have been the likely consequences of the alternatives? Yes, the US has been the only one to use nukes. So?
    According to accounts I’ve heard, the Japanese Army was largely intact on the main Japanese islands in 1945 and was itching for a fight. The Japanese cabinet had two factions, a peace faction and a war faction and the war faction thought that if the US invaded the main Japanese islands the resulting casualties would have been so catastrophic that the US would have come to the negotiating table.
    Also, a number of high ranking American officers were opposed to a full invasion because of the likely death toll. I’ve read that they estimated one million Japanese and American dead from the resultant fighting.
    Should the US have turned tail and gone home, let the Japanese rebuild and repair and continue on their rape and murder spree in Asia? They invaded Korea in 1905, Manchuria in 1931 and other countries and inflicted a holocaust. The death toll inflicted by Japan is likely in the tens of millions. My Chinese father-in-law was wounded by Japanese artillery and he still suffers today from the wounds.
    Look at Germany post WW1. They re-militarized, invaded Czechoslovakia, absorbed Austria, helped Franco in his war in Spain. Could Japan have gone on a similar path of re-militarization following a negotiated peace?
    There is one account that I heard that the reason for the Japanese surrender wasn’t so much the dropping of the nukes but rather the Soviet declaration of war on Japan. According to this account what decided Hirohito on surrendering was the prospect of a drunken Red Army rampaging through Japan the way they did in Germany.
    It’s easy to criticize the course that the US took in dropping the nukes. It’s another to walk in the shoes of the people and decision makers of the times. We have the benefit of seeing postwar history but the leaders of the time could only speculate on outcomes. Also, it’s interesting to note that it took TWO nukes before Japan surrendered.

  319. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 11:37 am #

    Fuzzy think as usual. I don’t represent American Renaissance and have never claimed to. I reference them because they discuss timely issues of race. They are not supremacists any more than I am. How can someone be a “Supremacist” who admits Ashkenazis and East Asians are smarter on average than Whites? I’ve gone over this with you countless times – why don’t you get it into your thick head and stop slandering me?
    Don’t blame me for the fact that Whites are smarter than Blacks – everyone is! You and people like you are the problem – you think by denying something it goes away.

  320. messianicdruid May 18, 2011 at 11:38 am #

    “Kengor suggests that there is much, much more in those KGB files to be revealed in the future.”
    “History is a catalouge of solutions. However, it is also a catalouge of things not to do. Far too many people just ignore the past and assume there is nothing worthwhile even exploring. This is why history repeats, largely because of the arrogance of mankind in assuming he is better than all those who preceded him.”
    Martin Armstrong
    http://www.martinarmstrong.org

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  321. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 11:41 am #

    Hey wise guy – if the races are equal, why are there virtually no Blacks in the special forces? Do you think we should remedy this gross injustice with Affirmative Action – and make the Special Forces common again? That’s what we’ve done to countless charter schools. They open, few Blacks qualify, Blacks complain, the standards are lowered and the school ceases to be anything special.

  322. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 11:42 am #

    The Soros crowd:
    “Several veteran and prize-winning journalists who covered presidents from John F. Kennedy to George W. Bush say that the current crop of White House correspondents are too timid and deferential and have played a role in killing the impact of presidential news conferences.
    “If you watch an Obama news conference, and watched a Bush news conference previous to that, where correspondents sit in their seats with their hands folded on their laps, [it’s] as if they are in the room with a monarch and they have to wait to be recognized by the president,” says Sid Davis, the former NBC Washington bureau chief who covered nine presidents. “It looks like they are watching a funeral service at [Washington funeral firm] Joseph Gawler’s and it shouldn’t be that way.”
    Adds Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post reporter Haynes Johnson, “It’s all very stale, very structured, very pale.”
    And longtime NBC and ABC reporter Sander Vanocur: “You want to know what’s wrong with the press? The press is what’s wrong with the press.”
    What pathetic fucking losers.
    Story here:
    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/05/17/veteran-journalists-todays-white-house-reporters-are-too-timid

  323. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 11:46 am #

    A forest is a collection of individual trees; a society is collection of individual people. If most of the individual trees are sick, the forest is sick. If most Blacks are below average intellectually and morally, then their society will be below the White average in terms of accomplishment, income, crime etc.
    Your attempt to separate individuals from the group is pure sophistry.

  324. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 11:46 am #

    VLADDY,
    We get it. You don’t like “niggers.” Now go the fuck away. Forever. Pretty please. (With Aunt Jemima syrup on top.)

  325. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 11:48 am #

    Glenn Beck would be so proud of you. Enjoy your all White Tea Party punk.

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  326. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 11:49 am #

    “Is it possible that Vlad and Asoka are one and the same…”
    I’m beginning to wonder if Mr. K is Vlad. Why else would one allow this racist to remain on this site for so long?

  327. asia May 18, 2011 at 11:51 am #

    ‘It almost beggars belief’
    NOT AT ALL, TO THOSE WHO ARE INFORMED:
    Venona
    ‘I SAW POLAND BETRAYED’
    VARIOUS BIRCHER BOOKS
    ALGER HISS, THE REAL HISTORY OF THE U.N.
    DOES THE WRITER CITE SOURCES?

  328. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 11:52 am #

    Ooops. Someone finally calls a spade(hater) a spade(hater) and said spade(hater) throws a snit. Who’d a thunk?

  329. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 11:55 am #

    Yeah when are Blacks going to stop talking about it? After decades of the same talk and ever increasing levels of crime and welfare, one is forced to realize that they have nothing else to talk about – they are one trick ponies. Asians came here with the nothing but the shirt on their backs and within one generation they are outperforming Whites.
    What is the Black excuse? They have none – Whites have bent over backwards for them for generations. You are an enabler and ought to be ashamed of yourself. Your fake compassion is poison to Blacks and keeps them in their own self forged chains – all to make yourself feel good and so that your liberal class can gain power.

  330. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 11:55 am #

    Not only that he missed the fact that Iran (of all lovely nations) is currently funding and erecting missiles in Venezuela.

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  331. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 11:57 am #

    “What is the Black excuse?”
    They have none Vladdy. We get it. They are “niggers” pure and simple. Now go away.

  332. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 11:58 am #

    Throw me off the site? So much for the free speech you hypocrites say you believe in. Sure you’re not a closet liberal punky?

  333. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 12:03 pm #

    Its not a matter of free speech. Its a matter of VLADDY saying, “I hate niggers” in a million different ways without ever saying it. Why? Because VLADDY is a coward. VLADDY is going to dance around his racism by trying to use his faulty logic clothed in politically correct language. It is boring, it is silly but most importantly, it is COWARDLY.
    Now go away COWARD.

  334. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 12:05 pm #

    “Throw me off the site?”
    And by the way, I did not call for you to be thrown off the site. I’m merely asking you to voluntarily go. Like I would if you were a guest in my home and started spewing your silly bile.

  335. rippedthunder May 18, 2011 at 12:05 pm #

    Hey Marlin let me help with the poem. I ‘ve got plenty of time as there is another “green monster” headed my way. Now we have a stinkin’ flood watch to boot. I’m glad i’m on high ground!I know it sucks but the juice just ain’t flowin’ today.
    I was waiting for the Spring to come
    But spring it never came …
    This past Winter was a bitchin’
    but now it always rains.
    The garden isn’t growin’
    but at least it ain’t a snowin’
    The birds are goin’ apeshit
    there’s plenty food O for them
    The earthworms are a drownin’
    And that be y I’m frownin’
    on My little wiggly frens
    My garden she depends
    If the water keeps on comin’ down
    The whole damn months a washout
    The fungi, mold are taken over
    but That could be a good thing

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  336. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 12:10 pm #

    You are right Buck – a Black Body may be waiting for me next time around. The price will have been well worth it if it helps the White Race survive. Perhaps I’ll be one of the few – a high IQ Black, a tormented soul trying to pretend his race is equal just because he is.
    Now let’s get to the interesting part: you admit one of my edges is sharp and cuts well. You know that what I say is true, you just don’t like it. Well Bucky, it’s time to tell the Truth and let the chips fall where they may. Otherwise we are going to lose everything. One reason Civil Rights triumphed is because of the politeness of Whites who knew better. Needless to say, their leftist opponents had no such politeness and slandered them to the max. Hilarious when you people talk about politeness…..
    Face it: Blacks have failed and failed spectacularly and egregiously. Haiti is a test case – we’ve helped them for over a century and they always just fall back down. If Chinese had the lush, western half of Hispanola, do you really think any intervention would have been necessary? They would have turned it into an agricultural powerhouse as well as a gambling/beach resort paradise long ago. On a smaller scale, Detroit, New Orldeans, Washington DC are good examples of Black Failure too – but not as good since they are not purely Black.

  337. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 12:16 pm #

    “Face it: Blacks have failed and failed spectacularly and egregiously”
    WE GET IT VLADDY. They are doomed due to their “nigger”-ness. You have been on this site forever saying the SAME FUCKING THING. We know every possible opinion, backwards and forwards on your views, regarding the superiority of whites. You have done your job. Now, GO AWAY.

  338. lbendet May 18, 2011 at 12:17 pm #

    Now for something completely different.
    Anyone hear this?
    The woman who Dom raped was living in housing set-up for HIV positive people and their families–
    ain’t that a kick in the pants. I guess she had a secret weapon…
    from Zero Hedge:
    [The IMF chief’s alleged sex-assault victim lives in a Bronx apartment rented exclusively for adults with HIV or AIDS, The Post has learned. The hotel maid, a West African immigrant, has occupied the fourth-floor High Bridge pad with her 15-year-old daughter since January — and before that, lived in another Bronx apartment set aside by Harlem Community AIDS United strictly for adults with the virus and their families.” Oops.]

  339. MarlinFive54 May 18, 2011 at 12:18 pm #

    RipT, I knew i could count on you!
    I’m gonna award you the CFNation Poet Laureate prize, Post 1.
    The award is a dozen donuts from that place with the good donuts up in Southwick. And a large coffee. Ozone, you show up too! For a donut.
    -Marlin

  340. Cash May 18, 2011 at 12:18 pm #

    Vlad, how would you define “race”. Is it just skin colour or are there other indicators like height, eye colour, hair colour, skull shape, tooth shape, leg length, arm length. How about biochemical markers like a gene to help fight malaria or a gene to fight tuberculosis.
    I ask this because you seem to focus on skin colour. You also talk about Ashkenazi Jews as if they’re a “race” even though they’ve been intermarrying with Europeans for hundreds of years. My old boss is Ashkenazi Jew. He has blonde hair and fair skin.
    You talk about subspecies. How far would you subdivide “blacks” given that subsaharan blacks are the most genetically diverse population on the planet? Would you say that a Somali black is the same race as someone from Nigeria? Would you say that Bushmen are a separate race? Would you say that South American Indians are a separate race from North American Indians or Meso American Indians?
    Would you divide white people into subspecies or separate races? Is a southern European of a different race than a northern European? Is a Slav of a separate race? What about my family. I have gark hair. I have close cousins that have blonde hair. Are they of a separate race from me?

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  341. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 12:19 pm #

    One of the warrior Saints of Russia had a choice whether to fight the Swedes or to try and liberate the other Russian City States from the Mongols. He fought the Swedes. Why? Because the Swedes would have come in and changed everything -forcing their religion on the Russians. The Mongols were “good” conquerors – as long as you paid you taxes you were left alone. They didn’t even want to live with the Russians prefering to live in the tents out on the Steppes with their flocks.
    Americans are bad conquerors – victory is never enough, they always want to force Americanism on their victims even though it doesn’t even work in America anymore.

  342. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 12:19 pm #

    Perhaps they should delay his trial as long as possible without his being able to see a doctor? Appropriate justice? Perhaps.

  343. MarlinFive54 May 18, 2011 at 12:21 pm #

    Vlad:
    Why are you busting my balls?
    -Marlin

  344. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 12:21 pm #

    Yeah but you haven’t gotten it yet. I can’t go until you get it. Now smarten up stupid.

  345. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 12:28 pm #

    “Yeah but you haven’t gotten it yet.”
    Au, contraire. I get it. So does everyone else on this site. You hate “niggers.” There is nothing else to “get”. You job is finished. You have earned a long rest. Now go away.

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  346. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 12:28 pm #

    Asking you an intelligent question is “busting your balls”? Why don’t you just ignore it if you don’t have an answer – which is what you usually do. You know my premise is correct, namely that the special forces are almost all White. So I ask you why and do you think we should change it – lower the standards for Blacks, Browns, and Women. The minorities can’t handle the intellectual parts and the women couldn’t handle the physical demands. Btw, there are guys with spanish names I know – when you see them they have White features typically.

  347. Cash May 18, 2011 at 12:30 pm #

    Americans are bad conquerors – victory is never enough, they always want to force Americanism on their victims even though it doesn’t even work in America anymore – Vlad
    What would you have done if you’d been in Truman’s shoes wrt Germany and Japan. Assume Roosevelt dies and there you are, Harry Truman, being sworn in as el presidente. What would you have done differently?

  348. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 12:33 pm #

    “The minorities can’t handle the intellectual parts…”
    We know. They are “niggers” Pure and simple. End of story. Every story you share with us has the same exact ending…”niggers.” Go for brevity. Just type, “I hate niggers” every few months just in case any newcomers aren’t familiar with your beliefs.

  349. MarlinFive54 May 18, 2011 at 12:41 pm #

    “Does he cite sources,” Asia
    Yeah, the book seems well annotated, about 50 pages in small print of sources.
    He says some interesting things about Comintern penetration of Hollywood 1930-1960, updated from New Yorker writer Alan Weinstein’s “The Haunted Wood” from about 10 years ago. Many more names, including Writers Guild members with plans to blow up bridges and conduct operations in support of a Chinese or Soviet invasion of the West Coast.
    Another interesting point. The Comintern backed the Weather underground. They really thought they could wrest control of the United States. The plan was to divide the US into 4 parts, one each for China, N. Vietnam, Cuba, and Russia. They also planned on Gulags in the S. West States to liquidate 25 million people who couldn’t be re educated.
    Like he said, we’ve only scratched the surface. Much more will be revealed in future research.
    And don’t forget, most of those Venona transcripts have yet to be deciphered.
    These weren’t nice people.
    -Marlin

  350. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 12:50 pm #

    One great researchers is Cafalli-Sforza. He has gotten a pass from the mad dog leftists because he never mentions race but only “populations”. His work is based on genetic markers more than overt physical appearance but get this: his population map is almost exactly the same as any racial map of the human races. Can you tell a book by its cover – yes, often, the caveat being that you have to know books.
    Are there complexities and gray areas? Of course. The Somalis are a mixed lot with alot of Negro blood. They themselves hate Negroes and consider them inferior. The Ashkenazis are a mixed lot – yes, but there are genetic markers passed down on the male line that are fairly consistent – as is the high IQ. Some supremacist I make, huh? There are shades of red gradually going pink on one side and purple on the other. Does that mean there is no red? Race is a fuzzy set but a set nonetheless. No clarity is gained by dismissing it – only clarity lost. Medical men certainly need it – there are diseases that are ethne specific as are some drugs. Organs transplants do better within race as well I’ve heard.
    Liberals believe in Darwin as a matter of faith. But let anyone apply Darwin to humans and they are up in arms. The brain is a physical organ and subject to evolutionary pressure just as the other parts of humans. West African Blacks are better sprinters and jumpers, East Asians live longer, and we invent things. Take a deep breath and then let it all out. Then accept the Truth of human variation. Then begin to work out how this variation must play out in Society.
    Hernstein and Murray (authors of the Bell Curve) argued for a libertarian society where each individual could find his own place. Quite rationally, they said so what if most Blacks aren’t smart, some are and should have the right to go forward. The only problem with this is that humans don’t work this way, are not rational enough to make this work. Smart Blacks identify with their race and want it to triumph. To take this stance as so many Whites have done is tantamount to unilateral disarmament. They will triumph over us at this rate – with the full consent and pleasure of the Masonic/Zionist Elite. Jared Taylor of Amren is wiser and advises a separation of the races.

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  351. MarlinFive54 May 18, 2011 at 12:52 pm #

    Vlad:
    Some people want you kicked off of here.
    Not me!
    Go ahead and make your points.
    Say what the hell you want, that’s my motto!
    -Marlin, (son of Voltaire)

  352. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 12:52 pm #

    “They themselves hate Negroes and consider them inferior.”
    So, you must really love them.

  353. asoka May 18, 2011 at 12:55 pm #

    Vlad said: “Hey wise guy – if the races are equal, why are there virtually no Blacks in the special forces?”
    =================
    13 percent of the Pentagon’ s highly trained special-operations forces are racial minorities.
    Of the 8,775 Army, Navy and Air Force commandos, 1,180 are classified as minorities.

  354. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 1:02 pm #

    What would I do if I ate nothing but McDonald’s cheesebugers and pizza with extra cheese for decades and then faced a triple bypass? Not have the dangerous surgery? No the anwer is to not eat that way and not get into that situation to begin with.
    If the Anglo/American Elite hadn’t hated Germany and Russia, there would have been no WW1. If we had dealt fairly with them even after that, there would have been no Hitler. But they already had designs on the World Domination even then. H.G Wells called it “the open conspiracy”. And Russia and Germany stood in the way and had to be destroyed. And they were.
    I can’t accept your question since I don’t agree with your premises. To accept your opponents premises when you really don’t is pointless. Only people who share premises can really debate. Other people can only fight. And they do. The whole Russian thing didn’t work out the way they hoped. Again Russia stands in their way – as does China. Orwell was right as usual: it’s now Oceania (US and NATO), Eurasia (Russia and her sphere) and East Asia (China).

  355. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 1:03 pm #

    “Jared Taylor of Amren is wiser and advises a separation of the races.”
    Great idea. You and Jared should invest in an island. I’m certain he’s a swell guy and the two of you would be quite happy.

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  356. asia May 18, 2011 at 1:04 pm #

    My apologies Marlin, Id been ignoring yr posts
    this last year or 2 [assuming you were a lib]..
    I doubt ill get the book…having read ‘Bircher’ etc..
    What about the last 25 years? [Ussr collapse]
    Has Soros been ‘Running the Show’?
    Does the book go into ‘foreign aid’ and ‘the UN’?

  357. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 1:06 pm #

    “What would I do if I ate nothing but McDonald’s cheesebugers and pizza with extra cheese for decades and then faced a triple bypass?”
    I don’t know. What would you do if you just hung out here all day and talked about the inferiority of “niggers”? Instead of clogged arteries you end up with clogged brain cells. Clogged with racist sentiments.

  358. asia May 18, 2011 at 1:06 pm #

    This is hysterical but in keeping with yr persona..
    Mr[or Ms.]’Banned ‘calling for someone elses ban’.
    You really are a fuktard.

  359. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 1:07 pm #

    Thank you Voltaire. What else did you say? The last King should be strangled with the entrails of the last Pope? Something like that!
    Just joshing – I do appreciate your kind word and the denunciation of the weather monsters. Communists LOVE the French Revolution and consider them their spiritual forebears.

  360. montsegur May 18, 2011 at 1:12 pm #

    Exploding watermelons not recommended

    The flying pips, shattered shells and wet shrapnel still haunt farmer Liu Mingsuo after an effort to chemically boost his fruit crop went spectacularly wrong.
    Fields of watermelons exploded when he and other agricultural workers in eastern China mistakenly applied forchlorfenuron, a growth accelerator. The incident has become a focus of a Chinese media drive to expose the lax farming practices, shortcuts and excessive use of fertiliser behind a rash of food safety scandals.

    from http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/17/exploding-watermelons-chinese-farming
    —————
    Hmm, trying to hurry Mother Nature may not be the best of ideas.
    Cheers

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  361. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 1:15 pm #

    Have you ever read Whitaker Chamber’s “Witness” – supposedly thee Great American Anti-Communist book. I haven’t gotten to it yet. One reviewer said that Chambers, a timid and deeply flawed man, attained a meaure of greatness by following his conscience and spilling the beans.

  362. montsegur May 18, 2011 at 1:25 pm #

    Vlad: If the Anglo/American Elite hadn’t hated Germany and Russia, there would have been no WW1. If we had dealt fairly with them even after that, there would have been no Hitler. But they already had designs on the World Domination even then. H.G Wells called it “the open conspiracy”. And Russia and Germany stood in the way and had to be destroyed. And they were.

    Vlad, the problem with conspiracy theories is that they assume too much that only one party to issues or conflicts had a meaningful role.
    The Germans made many mistakes from 1870 forward that ensured they were a very disliked great power in Europe. While the idea that Great Britain manipulated the rest of Europe into cutting the Germans down to size has some validity, it is a faulty reading of history to assume that the Germans (or Russians) had no role in their respective national destinies. Both powers did a lot of grave-digging for themselves. Not that either power has exactly fallen into those graves.
    The last time I looked, Russia isn’t doing that poorly. They, like the U.S., have social issues to address. But they also have a wealth of natural resources and a natural toughness that will allow them to weather many disadvantageous circumstances.
    Ditto with Germany. Divorced from Prussian military ambition, the Germans have excelled at what they always excelled at: trade.
    I think you and I could debate history endlessly, but I honestly hold back on my replies to your assertions about history because I believe the discussions in this forum should be more about the emerging LE and how people may/should react to it.
    Cheers

  363. metuselah May 18, 2011 at 1:27 pm #

    Vlad,
    Jews do well because Jewish culture values learning and knowledge. It has very little to do with genetics.
    You really need to move away from your eugenics nonsense. And it is nonsense. Just look at all the different peoples throughout history who thought themselves great and superior to others. Where are they now? They all but disappeared.
    What isn’t nonsense is the political agenda behind it all. But that political agenda is easy enough to figure out. It’s an agenda of divide & conquer, perpetual war, elitist privilege, totalitarian imperialism and theft. If you think you or anyone else is safe in such a system, you better think again, because history has always proved you wrong.
    mika.

  364. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 1:31 pm #

    “calling for someone elses ban”
    I have not called for someone else to be banned. I just asked Vlad “I hate niggers” to go away. Now why don’t you shut up and get your facts straight, ‘kay?

  365. Bustin J May 18, 2011 at 1:39 pm #

    RE: Chinese Farming.
    You bet your sweet ass. Let the buyer beware.
    —-
    RE: Marlin, go dry out, you’re getting hypothermia.
    “It was Bernadette Dohrn who came up with the Weatherunderground salute of 4 fingers held aloft.”
    Really? Says who?
    Here’s the quote, “Dig it! First they killed those pigs. Then they ate dinner in the same room with them. Then they shoved a fork into the victims stomach! Wild””
    What utter bullshit.
    I for one am impressed by the WU. What cowards much of the country was in the 1960s-1970s.

    RE: the Mississippi
    The same arguments about New Orleans (unsustainable due to flood plain) can be applied for much of the river. I suppose Orlovian analysis will conclude that these places will never be rebuilt. Kunstlerian principles dictate that federal money will now be spent to sustain unsustainable levees.
    I think its fair to say that the main purpose of the federal government (sans EPA) and big business (the building, finance, and insurance sectors) is to deny reality at the expense of reason. The policy to control the Mississippi is a military-industrial complex if there ever was one.

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  366. Bustin J May 18, 2011 at 1:42 pm #

    Vlad: “Hey wise guy – if the races are equal, why are there virtually no Blacks in the special forces? ”
    Probably for the same reason there are no blacks in the KKK?

  367. Bustin J May 18, 2011 at 1:57 pm #

    Memh0le says “Canadians also seem very environmentally conscious.”
    Just like Americans… according to polls. *bullshit*
    “All the tailings and even dirty snow is carted out from the sites back to dump sites. I don’t know about the tar sands or shale oil though. That seems pretty nasty, environmentally speaking, both on the landscape and water supply.”
    Hence the charge of *bullshit*.
    Canadians are just like Americans. Americans poll as environmentally conscious. Americans also don’t have a f*cking clue what horrendous shit is happening at a f*cking massive scale across the land, let alone over the f*cking hill from where they live.
    Today’s headline:
    Study: 80 Percent of Baby Products Are Toxic
    OH REALLY?
    WHO KNEW? NO REALLY, WHO KNEW?
    North America, where is your f*cking mind?
    I think back to the concerted campaign to smear consumer advocates like Ralph Nader. The phenomenon of a general public influenced to vote against their own interests is nothing new.
    As Karl Marx pointed out over a hundred years ago, capitalism is predatory: Corporations have vastly greater power than the electorate can imagine. Today, most are their prisoners.
    And what are we, lone dissidents, free thinkers, ecologists, etc.? Prisoners of prisoners.
    Even if Vlad’s society coagulated into a mass of whites, it would still be a confederacy of dunces.
    I feel ever more like Edward Abbey, who was prescient back in the day, with his utter disgust with humanity. We don’t deserve this planet.

  368. Bustin J May 18, 2011 at 2:00 pm #

    Someone has to take the poison spoon out of the idiot child America’s mouth.
    http://www.epa.gov/opprd001/factsheets/forchlorfenuron.pdf
    Enjoy with fruit, may cause birth defects.

  369. Cash May 18, 2011 at 2:02 pm #

    I would argue this: that “race” is too fuzzy a set to be of any real value. There’s too much in the way of variation within these “racial” groups, especially within subsaharan peoples, to make such a classification of any practical worth. I think there’s also been too much racial mixing over the ages to make any clear cut classifications.
    IMO that is as I’m not a scientist. I’m parroting what I’ve read but I have to say that it seems logical to me. And it squares with the evidence of my own eyes. I think you’re stuck with skin colour as your main delineator and that’s just not good enough. It’s too broad a blanket and is by itself significant only in telling an observer where a person’s ancestors came from.
    What you say about evolutionary pressure is true to some extent. If it wasn’t true we wouldn’t have people with white skins, black skins ie skin tones evolved to cope with different degrees of solar radiation. You also wouldn’t have people with the sickle cell gene and other genes that seem to arise in environments with specific types of disease. Eskimos (Inuit) wouldn’t have stout bodies designed to cope with extreme cold. Many other examples.
    What you argue about tribalism is also true enough. We tend to stick with people that look, sound and smell like us. So we have a built in problem on this continent with groups of people whose outward appearance is different from one another. So as oil and other resources peter out and we have re-localization will we have also re-tribalization?
    You claim that certain of these “races” are superior to others in intellectual capacity. Yet how can you winnow out the many factors affecting a construct such as “intelligence”? People in Africa live in radically different physical environments than Europeans. How do you control for such a factor? You would argue that the state of their societies and technology comes from their innate intelligence. I would argue otherwise. I think it was Procon that said a White European soldier posted in Subsharan west Africa had a life expectancy measured in months in such an environment. Black Africans live life spans measured in decades in such places.
    North American Blacks and Indians live radically different social and economic circumstances than their Caucasian fellow citizens. As you would note, their poverty and rates of incarceration are much worse than white people. You would argue that this is the result of their inferior intellect as determined by their race. But I don’t think you can dismiss the effects of centuries of slavery and oppression. They’ve been brutalized. Their societies are really fucked up? Would you expect otherwise after what they’ve been through?
    I wouldn’t be too secure in your assessments of people based on their outward appearance. Like I said in other posts Europeans managed to build a crude edifice like Stonehenge while their non white counterparts in other places were building cities, pyramids and temple complexes and developing writing, mathematics and astronomy. Ancient Europe appeared to be mired in backwardness compared to non Europeans. I’ll bet that non white travellers and traders in Europe looking at the circumstances of Europeans compared to their home societies would have written Europeans off as hopelessly inferior. Much the same as you’re writing off Blacks. But, as we’ve seen, times change.
    Again, I have to say that this business about racial inferiority and superiority does not square with my own observations. You would say that I worked with la creme de la creme. I would say that as I moved up the food chain I worked with a wide variety of people of varying races and widely varying circumstances. Some brilliant, but most average. Like I said in other posts I worked with black guys in accounting that walk on water. They were as good as it gets in this profession. And I’ve seen the not so brilliant.
    I think you over generalize based on this idea of “race”. I just think you are mistaken. It’s human and natural to stick to what you see as your own. But because of historical circumstances we have on this continent people that look different from us. You’ll have to live with it because there’s no other way forward.

  370. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 2:04 pm #

    So should we invade them too – or just Iran as the Zionists want?

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  371. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 2:11 pm #

    Oooops. You fell off the “nigger” rant. So, you now wish to rant about the JEWS. Be my guest VLADDY.

  372. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 2:12 pm #

    Jared Diamond (a saint on this site) is a Jew who doesn’t believe in race but does believe in the genetic Jewish People. Bit of contradiction… Just trying to underline how unusual your viewpoint is among Jews. IQ is at least 60% genetic. This is a known fact among researchers. Thus Eugenics is a prime directive for any Culture that wants to maintian a standard.
    But I’m happy with you. Some Jews have fallen for the propaganda that was meant just for us. Your desire for Black girls is a hilarous backfiring of the plan.

  373. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 2:13 pm #

    Answer the question you Glenn Beckoid loser.

  374. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 2:16 pm #

    VLADDY Hates:
    Niggers?
    Check
    Jews?
    Check
    The list grows. To be continued.

  375. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 2:22 pm #

    Hey I know that the White Average IQ is 100 – and most people at that level are pretty dull conversationalists. But what you fail to grasp is the huge difference in ability between 100 and 85 – the Black American average. 100 can be a brick in the industrial wall, 85 cannot be. And morality correlates rather well with IQ so we could also say that 85 Will not be.
    Whites need an Elite to guide them, sure. But at least there’s a chance that they CAN be lead. Blacks CANNOT be lead in the same way, certainly not by an Intellectual Elite. They want tribal macho men like Mugabe or Marion Bradley. White Americans are peculiarly ill adapted to accepting hierarchy though. And amazingly, you seem to share this prejudice even though you want a Scientific Elite to rule. Democratic election of eggheads? Not here anytime soon. Ike will always beat Adlai Stephenson.

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  376. Qshtik May 18, 2011 at 2:24 pm #

    Made 7th attempt to send the reply to Bustin.
    STILL REJECTED!!
    Typed this post and I bet it goes through.
    Let’s see (click Submit)

  377. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 2:25 pm #

    Do you agree with Abbey that the Mexican Illegals must be stopped in order to save the environment? This was and is scandalous amongst the Liberal Chuchmen of Enivonmentalism. Abbeys cannonization has been derailed because of it.

  378. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 2:32 pm #

    “Mexican”
    Check.

  379. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 2:33 pm #

    So Mr. “Spell Check” is being checked? How ironic.

  380. rippedthunder May 18, 2011 at 2:39 pm #

    That would be Mrs. Murpheys, I really try to avoid those sinkers, but the coffee I can do.

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  381. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 2:49 pm #

    I read a book by William Joyce (Lord Haw Haw) who defected to Germany from England. He like all Fascists, predicted that the Capitalists would use Third World Labor to ruin the West. It has happened. And he talked about how African mercenaries had been used during WW1 and as an occupying force in the Sudentland. But even he and they had no inkling that the Capitalists would throw open the gates to the Third World and turn their own People into minorities. I mean that just goes beyond anything in previous experience. Countless British Veterans of WW2 are on record saying that they would not have fought if they had known what the Elite had planned. Their disgust is total as is mine and as is every other decent person. And if you aren’t, then you have some serious soul searching to do.

  382. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 2:52 pm #

    It’s a conspiracy. Look outside and you’ll see cardinals and orioles chirping in glee at your discomfiture.

  383. asoka May 18, 2011 at 2:53 pm #

    “Liberals”
    Check.
    “Environmentalists”
    Check.

  384. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 2:53 pm #

    “Birds”
    Check

  385. asoka May 18, 2011 at 2:55 pm #

    It’s the law of karma, but Qshtik is not interested in any of that “Buddhist” mumbo jumbo, even when he is its victim.

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  386. asoka May 18, 2011 at 2:56 pm #

    “85”
    Check

  387. asoka May 18, 2011 at 2:58 pm #

    “Eggheads”
    Check

  388. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 3:02 pm #

    You really like saying the N word, don’t ya fan boy? You’re projecting your own racism onto me in order to simultaneously get off on it and to condemn me – very clever Beck Jr.

  389. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 3:07 pm #

    Own it – it’s your’s! Actually not but since you refuse to be an individual and insist on identifying with your race…
    I admire Clarence Thomas and Alan Keyes among others. Some great Black Men appreciate America and can make a go of it here. You could too. But you prefer Thurgood Marshall and his “now it’s our turn” mentality. It’s his kind that make peacefull coexistence impossible.

  390. asia May 18, 2011 at 3:14 pm #

    Asoka, You are wrong.
    ‘Karma’ is from Sanscrit for action [reaction].\
    “law of karma,Buddhist” mumbo jumbo, even when he is its victim.”
    NO ONE IS EVER A VICTIM OF KARMA….THEY ARE ITS CREATOR.

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  391. asia May 18, 2011 at 3:15 pm #

    NO, IVE READ ENOUGH OF SUCH…
    what is this yr postong about ‘glenn beck oids?’

  392. tucsonspur May 18, 2011 at 3:18 pm #

    From last week’s Sunday paper:
    PINK NAILS FOR BOYS? SOME SEE SLIDE INTO GENDER HAVOC!
    Last month, J. Crew unleashed a furor when a promotion depicted its creative director, Jenna Lyons, painting her 5 year old son Beckett’s toenails with pink nail polish.
    “Lucky for me, I ended up with a boy whose favorite color is pink”, the caption read.
    Dr. Keith Ablow, a psychiatrist, didn’t approve.
    “It may be fun and games now, Jenna, but at least put some money aside for psychotherapy for the kid”, he wrote.
    Ablow quickly found support. ONE MILLION MOMS, an offshoot of the American Family Association, urged followers to write protest letters to J.Crew.
    Just as quickly, there was a backlash from people who liked Beckett’s pink toenails. Hundreds of people accepted a Facebook invitation to join “Pink Toenail Polish Day”.
    Again, Dr. Ablow: “It will be a very big deal if it turns out that neither gender is very comfortable anymore nurturing children above all else, and neither gender is motivated to protect the nation by marching into combat against other men and risking their lives.”
    “Maybe we’ll all have shiny, colored lips, though, and pierced ears and perfect eyebrows.”
    Amen, brother, Amen.

  393. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 3:19 pm #

    “You’re projecting your own racism onto me..”
    Sure I am. And of course you can back that up by directing one and all to all of the racist remarks that I have made? I thought not.
    Now, should I someday wish to compile an entire cyclopedia of your racist nonsense would that be difficult? Not really. I could take one day’s postings of yours (like today for example) and have a very telling beginning to my compendium.
    Once again, we get it. YOU hate “niggers.” Good for you. There will be a price to pay for your falsely held beliefs. In the mean time, could you just stop hanging around here? Go find a little group where they dress up in brown shirts and shorts and do little marches and have at it. They might even give you a little whistle and a riding crop. Just leave here.

  394. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 3:22 pm #

    And what about you? Did not Buddha say in the Dhammapada that “Hatred does not end by hatred at any time”.

  395. asia May 18, 2011 at 3:23 pm #

    Does Soros now factor in?
    And were you aware of the real story of the UN/Hiss?

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  396. montsegur May 18, 2011 at 3:25 pm #

    Vlad: And if you aren’t, then you have some serious soul searching to do.

    Vlad, like I said, too much discussion about history is off topic here. No doubt you’re aware I could react to your comments about Lord Haw Haw — but why? I won’t change your outlook and you won’t alter mine. And for a lot who read this blog, there question may be “who the heck was Lord Haw Haw”?
    I’d like to point out, though, that you make too many assumptions about who the other people are who comment in this forum and what they may or may not believe. These assumptions weaken the points you wish to make and distract from your message.
    You have a theme. Whether I or the others agree with it or not is largely unimportant. It is yours to have, at least up until the point adherents of it wish to curb whatever freedoms I may still enjoy.
    I know what my ancestors were in the fight for, and in large part, it was about allowing average people the freedom to not have foreign soldiers dominating their daily lives.
    Other systems were not so tolerant, and frankly, I’m glad they’ve disappeared into the records of history. We (humanity) didn’t lose much by that happening other than the worship of some 19th and 20th century false idols.
    But don’t assume I don’t realize that there isn’t a lot wrong with the world today. My take on it and my approach to it is different than yours — and whose approach was correct will be a matter for history written in the future to decide, if anyone is left to write said history.
    Cheers

  397. asia May 18, 2011 at 3:25 pm #

    Odd that both you [presumably] have been banned…you perhaps 30x.
    Now after JS/VK posting his words here you go after him, after all this time..
    weird..why now?
    you off yr meds?

  398. lil'jimbo May 18, 2011 at 3:31 pm #

    “Now after JS/VK posting his words here you go after him, after all this time..”
    I guess the insect’s high pitched shriek finally got to me. Its the same shit, over and over and over. I hate “X” and here is why. Enough already.

  399. BeantownBill May 18, 2011 at 3:31 pm #

    “I was waiting for Spring
    But spring never came …”
    I waiting for summer
    But summer never came
    I was waiting for winter
    And boy! did winter come

  400. asia May 18, 2011 at 3:43 pm #

    Have you seen the pix of….Miss Beard?
    gawd!
    KOMO News reports that Lakeysha Beard says she felt “disrespected” by the incident, though passengers said it was Beard ……………etc

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  401. asoka May 18, 2011 at 4:41 pm #

    asia, Qshtik CREATED the spell check mania and is now a victim of it.
    Karma, poetic justice, coincidence, whatever…

  402. asoka May 18, 2011 at 4:43 pm #

    Vlad, I have no hatred in my heart. Not even for racists.
    My heart cannot be controlled by others.
    It only knows love, and my heart smiles, and I laugh.

  403. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 5:08 pm #

    The People of the West fought so they could be enslaved and/or replaced by other races. The process is well begun. Who would have fought if they had known what their “Leaders’ had in mind? You deal in appearances and media sound bytes. I deal in what I see is actually going on.

  404. Vlad Krandz May 18, 2011 at 5:13 pm #

    Turkel isn’t around and he needs someone to fight with. The Pissant has needs you see.

  405. asoka May 18, 2011 at 5:16 pm #

    ALERTS TO THREATS IN 2011 EUROPE : BY JOHN CLEESE
    May 17, 2011
    The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent events in Libya and the announcement of the death of Osama bin Laden, and have therefore raised their security level from “Miffed” to “Peeved.” Soon though, security levels may be raised yet again to “Irritated” or even “A Bit Cross.” The English have not been “A Bit Cross” since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from “Tiresome” to “A Bloody Nuisance.” The last time the British issued a “Bloody Nuisance” warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.
    The Scots have raised their threat level from “Pissed Off” to “Let’s get the Bastards.” They don’t have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.
    The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from “Run” to “Hide.” The only two higher levels in France are “Collaborate” and “Surrender.” The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France ‘s white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country’s military capability.
    Italy has increased the alert level from “Shout Loudly and Excitedly” to “Elaborate Military Posturing.” Two more levels remain: “Ineffective Combat Operations” and “Change Sides.”
    The Germans have increased their alert state from “Disdainful Arrogance” to “Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs.” They also have two higher levels: “Invade a Neighbor” and “Lose.”
    Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels .
    The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
    Australia , meanwhile, has raised its security level from “No worries” to “She’ll be alright, Mate.” Two more escalation levels remain: “Crikey! I think we’ll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!” and “The barbie is canceled.” So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.
    – John Cleese – British writer (of Monty Python fame), actor and tall person

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  406. banana republican May 18, 2011 at 5:39 pm #

    Many thanks for the hilarious post, Asoka. I’ll be sending this one to friends.
    Good on ya, mate!

  407. bubbleheadMarc May 18, 2011 at 6:17 pm #

    There really is no “fair” rate of taxation so there should probably be a flat rate for everyone since it is money that is being taxed and not the actual person in question. That of course would then be a regressive tax, but at least it would prevent rich people from paying no income taxes at all.

  408. trippticket May 18, 2011 at 6:20 pm #

    Soak, thanks for the John Cleese…
    I chipped up a pickup truck bed full of pine cones today that a landscaping client wanted removed. I think the chips will make excellent blueberry food! Can you believe they actually give me paper money too? Silly people, just giving away their fertility. If they only knew that it will be our only currency in a couple of decades, tops, I’m sure they wouldn’t pay me quite so well.
    Off to stash the booty.

  409. asoka May 18, 2011 at 7:11 pm #

    Let’s send these European immigrants back where they came from!
    I don’t care if they are Polish, Irish, English, Italian, or Norwegian!
    European immigrants are responsible for the most violent and heinous crimes in the history of the world, including genocide and slavery!
    Its time to restore the sovereignty of people native to this land!
    I want more workplace raids, starting with the big banks downtown.

    — Robert Erikson

  410. ozone May 18, 2011 at 7:39 pm #

    JHK sez:
    “The great rattling fear that lives within European business minds is that the whole bloody system is flat broke and any interruption to the daisy-chain of revolving obligations will reveal the awful naked truth – perhaps like seeing DSK fly out of the hotel bathroom with his florid organ aloft and a wicked gleam in his eyes.”
    Yes, indeedee!
    Another shaken-baby-syndrome indicator of the gearing up of TLE: flat-broke-en-ness of financial entities [that pretty much represent TPTB worldy-wide, peeps great and small].
    All else (of supposed import) is distraction, and garbage intended to lead to distraction and (hopefully) lowest-common-denominator entertainment!
    JHK’s theater of gritty, grinding, grunting, and grudging reality is far and away the superior entertainment, as some here attempt to point out. Others’ sense of important and germane topicals are being ground and trampled beneath the terrible and inexorable music of the physical limits of Nature (and thus, our Universe, to which we are ever subservient and of “the lesser” and perhaps the most fragile). Pray hard, you pray-ers; your god of hubristic conceit brings only a giggling extinction…

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  411. ozone May 18, 2011 at 7:47 pm #

    Ohhhhh… dooooooghnuts from Mrs. Murphy’s.
    Goodness, gracious, RT; sometimes ya just gotta have a “sinker”! (Well, mebbe not TOO often.)
    Them thangs is regionally famous.

  412. ozone May 18, 2011 at 7:54 pm #

    (In reply to VK):
    “I think you and I could debate history endlessly, but I honestly hold back on my replies to your assertions about history because I believe the discussions in this forum should be more about the emerging LE and how people may/should react to it.”
    -montsegur
    Bingo!
    To see the entire blog be dominated by a few focus-shifters is kinda sad.

  413. ozone May 18, 2011 at 7:55 pm #

    …(speaking of mis-allocation of resources).

  414. ozone May 18, 2011 at 7:59 pm #

    “I think its fair to say that the main purpose of the federal government (sans EPA) and big business (the building, finance, and insurance sectors) is to deny reality at the expense of reason. The policy to control the Mississippi is a military-industrial complex if there ever was one.” -Bustin
    LOL!
    I don’t think you’re attempting to be humorous here, but since donning the angel-of-death costume once again, I’m finding the laughter coming easier.

  415. ozone May 18, 2011 at 8:06 pm #

    BTW, Marlin,
    Yes, I did write that stuff… ’cause no one else would deign to do it FOR me! (See? It was under duress, ossifer, I swears it weren’t my fault!)

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  416. trippticket May 18, 2011 at 8:13 pm #

    Perfect timing. After all that talk about your concert last week I remembered that you sent me a CD last fall that I hadn’t listened to since I got my CDR fixed. Listening to it now. Awesome stuff, bro. I think there’s a little They Might Be Giants (perhaps a smidge of Jimmy Buffet?) in there too to go with the Tom Waits and Cat Stevens.
    Thanks again!

  417. ozone May 18, 2011 at 8:24 pm #

    Glad you’re enjoying it; that’s what it’s fer, I guess. ;o)
    Concert? Mmm, more like, “A guy walks into a bar with a P.A. and a gee-tar”… madness ensues.

  418. Qshtik May 18, 2011 at 8:30 pm #

    European immigrants are responsible for the most violent and heinous crimes in the history of the world, including genocide and slavery!
    ==================
    Might makes Right!
    For many nuances on this phrase see this link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Might_makes_right

  419. Puzzler May 18, 2011 at 8:32 pm #

    Asoka said:

    Its time to restore the sovereignty of people native to this land!

    Wrong again, Asoka Numbnuts, they aren’t native to this land. They were immigrants also, just moved here before most of us. Try Googling “Bering Land Bridge” if you like some education to go with your opinions.
    They might get bonus points for moving here first, but they didn’t even call “Dibs.”

  420. asoka May 18, 2011 at 8:34 pm #

    All else (of supposed import) is distraction, and garbage intended to lead to distraction and (hopefully) lowest-common-denominator entertainment!
    JHK’s theater of gritty, grinding, grunting, and grudging reality is far and away the superior entertainment, as some here attempt to point out.

    I disagree. Talking week after week, for decades now, about TLE is also distraction.
    Don’t you ever wonder about all the metaphors JHK has created and why they have not described reality?
    For example, the metaphor of Wiley Coyote running off the cliff and still running in thin air, not realizing there was nothing below him but air, nothing to stop his fall, nothing to stop his eventual destruction.
    JHK intended that as descriptive of our economic situation six or seven or eight years ago, or go back to Y2K, if you like (JHK was wrong about that, too).
    It’s always the same message: The bottom is about to fall out, the house of cards is going to collapse, the whole system is unsustainable. That’s been the message since the 1970s Club of Rome report.
    Except it isn’t accurate. The system sustained itself. There was no massive collapse.
    JHK continues to deny there is any economic recovery. In a way he is right because I continue to hear news reports of positive indicators and references to the recession of 2008-2010 in the PAST TENSE.
    The recession is over, get over it, move on, nothing to see here except positive news … the long nightmare that was George W. Bush is over … and the system JHK writes about week after week refuses to crash.
    The weekly rants saying it is about to crash, and plunge the entire world into darkness and chaos, apparently have no relationship to economic reality.
    If you are honest with yourself, if you have any relationship with your community or your family, you don’t believe it either. Budgets are planned out for the next biennium, grandchildren get raised and go off to school… and live goes on.
    Life goes on, apparently to the dismay of some who long for the chaos of social disintegration, which just ain’t gonna happen.
    I’ve been watching for pitchforks since the 60s. The closest I ever saw was Bernadine Dohrn and she is skewered here on CFN as evil, while the greater violence she opposed, the state terrorism she was opposing, state terrorism which killed millions in Southeast Asia, is mostly not spoken of at all.

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  421. ozone May 18, 2011 at 8:34 pm #

    (To be clear, Bustin, I’m not laughing “derisively” at your dead-on-target assessments, I’m laughing in the teeth of the booming gale. It’s a bitter laughter, but it makes me feel better. “The best laid plans of mice and men do so often go astray.”)

  422. Qshtik May 18, 2011 at 8:38 pm #

    I chipped up a pickup truck bed full of pine cones today
    ===========
    With a GAS powered chipper?

  423. ozone May 18, 2011 at 8:41 pm #

    Someone barked; begging me to be “honest” with myself (or some such). Meh? Back-at-who…
    (I certainly am entertained by those that believe that “just wishing hard enough” can change the way the wind blows in a shit-storm.)

  424. asoka May 18, 2011 at 8:46 pm #

    They might get bonus points for moving here first, but they didn’t even call “Dibs.”
    ===========
    That is what makes them superior to the Europeans.

  425. asoka May 18, 2011 at 8:49 pm #

    I certainly am entertained by those that believe that “just wishing hard enough” can change the way the wind blows in a shit-storm.
    ==========
    Meh. This whole blog is entertainment. Especially those wishing so hard that things will deteriorate, week after week, year after year…
    True believers in TLE.

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  426. Qshtik May 18, 2011 at 8:51 pm #

    … and live goes on.
    ============
    live!
    aaaaaaaaah hahaha (picture Q cackling like an insane person)

  427. ozone May 18, 2011 at 8:56 pm #

    Hmmmm, I stopped “believing” in things a while ago; I switched to observation; it’s a fine and refreshing departure from dogma and propaganda…
    —dissolving into the ether now—

  428. asoka May 18, 2011 at 9:02 pm #

    I switched to observation; it’s a fine and refreshing departure from dogma and propaganda…
    =========
    So you are an empiricist?
    You actually believe what your senses are reporting is undistorted “reality”?

  429. metuselah May 18, 2011 at 9:21 pm #

    Vlad,
    My viewpoint is not unusual in the least. Just look at all the colors and ethnic types represented in the Jewish people. The facts speak for themselves. The Jewish people are the most diverse peoples on the face of this planet.
    Unfortunately, your comprehension of genetics is such that you don’t understand the very basics. And the VERY BASICS are very simple. Diversity is a good thing. Diversity of the gene pool is what helps species survive. It is when the gene pool is depleted of diversity, that vulnerability to disease, decrepitude, and extinction sets in. And this principle is universal. It applies to culture, politics, economics, science, etc., as much as it applies to nature.

  430. trippticket May 18, 2011 at 9:38 pm #

    You got it. It’s called “appropriate technology”. Use the energy we have now to build systems that can be maintained by human power in perpetuity. Once established, those blueberries will be practically indestructible in our climate. I.E. I’ll never have to use gasoline to feed them again.

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  431. asoka May 18, 2011 at 9:38 pm #

    A rock hits a window, and then the window breaks. You don’t see a third thing called causation, do you Ozone? But you probably believe it has happened.
    You believe the rock hitting the window caused it to break. But your belief is not experienced like the flight of the rock or the shattering of the glass.
    Experience does not seem to force the concept of causation on us. You just use it to interpret what you experience.
    Cause and effect are categories that could never be read out of our experience and must therefore be brought to that experience by our prior mental disposition to attribute such a connection. This is the rationalist perspective.
    Are you an empiricist or a rationalist, Ozone?

  432. asoka May 18, 2011 at 9:47 pm #

    How many times on this blog have you read something like: “those jobs are gone and they are never coming back” or sentiments to that effect?
    You never hear the pessimists (who falsely claim to be realists) say: “those jobs are gone, but some of them will be back soon.”
    Well, all over the USA the jobs, some of them, are coming back. Like these in Virginia:
    International Paper Co., which shut down its Franklin plant in 2009, will reopen part of it next year and hire 213 workers.
    When the plant closed, taking with it about 1,000 jobs, tiny Franklin was decimated. The foul-smelling pulp mill had been a linchpin of the rural Tidewater economy for years.
    Memphis-based International will invest $83 million to install new equipment to make fluff pulp, which is a wood product used in baby diaper and wipes.
    If you are observing closely, you will see an economic recovery, and an improved employment situation in all 50 states of the USA.

  433. ctemple May 18, 2011 at 9:53 pm #

    Lord Haw Haw was a radio big mouth broadcasting fascist propaganda,to Allied troops,in my opinion he has a lot in common with today’s radio blow hards, like Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, etcetera, they spend most of their time telling listeners how wonderful the wealthy are, cheer leading for wars and the police state in general. Every half assed bit of phony patriotism they can find they use, and most of it against ordinary people, and pretend to be conservative.
    Did you forget to mention that Lord Haw Haw was hanged by the British after the war for being a traitor?

  434. Qshtik May 18, 2011 at 10:01 pm #

    I am so pissed. I just lost a lengthy post by accidentally clicking on a wrong icon … and poof my post was gone and I haven’t the patience to recreate it.
    It was me agreeing to Bubble’s support of a flat tax but fleshing out that idea in much more detail and far more radically. The myriad socialists on this blog would have gone ape shit. Ah well, some other day.

  435. Qshtik May 18, 2011 at 10:26 pm #

    It only knows love, and my heart smiles, and I laugh.
    =============
    The same patent lie we have seen from Asoka so many times. (What was that rule number of Safire’s … I forget … was it #4?)
    Your heart smiles and you laugh, not out of love but out of hatred for the likes of Vlad. You know full well that the post I am referencing and numerous other of your posts are intended to piss off and infuriate the reader and to do it in the guise of (self) righteousness. Your life is dedicated in a sick way to delivering a comeuppance to whitey. As smart as you are you don’t recognize how easily and how clearly many of us see this.
    And again I ask … wus up wit da hats all askew?

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  436. Puzzler May 18, 2011 at 10:46 pm #

    Q, you’ll love this photo of a tattoo, which is actually worse than the headline promises. It actually ends with “live is to short.”
    http://wtftattoos.com/live-is-too-short/
    The website is connected with the immensely funny People of Walmart website.

  437. asoka May 19, 2011 at 12:29 am #

    I forget … was it #4?)
    =========
    Yes, Q, it was #4 … and you are coming dangerously close to violating it.

  438. Qshtik May 19, 2011 at 1:02 am #

    “live is to short.”
    ===========
    In my experience the kinds of people who like decorating their bodies in this way wouldn’t be the least bit put out by a spelling fuck-up. The error would have to be pointed out to them and then they would use it as their conversation starter at the bar for the rest of their lives.
    I’m guessing the percentage of professional lexicographers worldwide who have tattoos is minute. Sorry if I sound a bit snobbish.

  439. Neon Vincent May 19, 2011 at 1:08 am #

    “As the World Burns: 50 Simple Things You Can Do to Stay in Denial”
    I have a variation on that one–“While the world burns, Farmville thrives.”

  440. Qshtik May 19, 2011 at 1:16 am #

    And again I ask … wus up wit da hats all askew?
    =================
    The fact that I have pointedly asked you this question in 3 separate posts and you have avoided addressing it tells me there is some hope for you …. that there are some things in black culture that are embarrassing even to you, like the hat thing and the pants falling off the ass.
    If you ever do decide to address it, I’m curious about the underlying psychology that would make ANYONE think this is cool.

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  441. montsegur May 19, 2011 at 1:25 am #

    Vlad: You deal in appearances and media sound bytes.

    No. Your assumption is distorting your assessment of me.
    Cheers

  442. Patrizia May 19, 2011 at 2:13 am #

    You actually believe what your senses are reporting is undistorted “reality”?
    An empiricist knows ( and this IS the heart of his belief) that reality IS distorted by his senses.
    Everything is “subjective”, it depends from the one who sees or thinks or “experience”.
    An Idealist thinks reality is “objective”.
    Anyway, when a stone hits my window I do not have to enquire who it is: it certainly is that idiot of my neighbor…

  443. Jimmy Drinkwater May 19, 2011 at 7:39 am #

    “NO ONE IS EVER A VICTIM OF KARMA….THEY ARE ITS CREATOR.”
    Yes, a more correct reading.
    Evil is what we do, not what we suffer.