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A Christmas Carol 2011

     Slouched in woe beside the Christmas tree, a lot of Americans missed the point of 2011: Santa Claus had already emptied his goodie sack before the night of wonders and miracles arrived and was back at the North Pole checking the balance sheet to see if he could raise a little cash selling some remaining assets off to the Blackstone Group or maybe work a leveraged buyout deal with Kohlberg Kravis Roberts. A few elves would have to join the unemployment line, but they could probably get by on half-rations of food stamps. Or maybe Henry Kravis could feed them reindeer steaks… at a discount, as long as they last.
     It’s remarkable how the year’s great mega-holiday blowout suspends time and circumstance. I didn’t see how the European banks were going to make it to December 25, but then, heading into the shopping frenzy home-stretch, swap lines opened up between the US Federal Reserve  and the European Central Bank and around $600-odd billion in ZIRP loans flowed to over 200 Euro banks. Maybe that will cover the next two weeks of aggregate debt rollovers, and then what? They can’t even look forward to President’s Day over there – unless we rented out the George Washington and Abe Lincoln brands to them.
     Who is still not impressed with the ability of these central banks, and their owner-operators, to keep re-circulating immense loads of notional money? Alas, every wash-rinse repeat cycle leaves the certificates a little paler and thinner, and it won’t be long before they just appear to be blank paper. But rackets as grand and insolent as these would not be possible, except in a culture so estranged from truth that anything goes over without notice. I wonder about that scene around the American Christmas tree, though – the empty space between the floor and the lowest boughs where the gaily-wrapped presents used to appear.
     I reckon it will take a few weeks, perhaps through the whole winter, for a sense of swindle to set in among the rooked. You may notice a pervasive undertone of grumbling in the background – and winter is the right time for that – like the eerie, ominous chords of ice groaning in the darkness on a still night around the frozen lake. But eventually come the tumults and torrents of spring. I suppose what baffles many of us in the ethers of bloggery is the apparent failure of that demographic slice acquainted with thinking to register any objection to the travesties and organized brigandages of these times. At any other time in the life of this republic, such folk with active frontal lobes would have identified arrant criminal activity for what it is. Apparently, the nostrums of Paul Krugman are as powerfully narcotic as the raptures of Nascar.
     I’m afraid events are a little too far gone now. There was some hope that Mr. Obama would restore the rule of law, but he has gone even farther in the opposite direction by disabling even the levers of truth – and in so genial a style that nobody noticed that, either. That thinking demographic slice of the public I averred to must have mortgaged their souls the past three years just to keep on keeping on. Hence, when the truly rooked wake from their zombie sleepwalk, there will be hell to pay for sure. Sometimes an intellectual governor on events no longer even avails, as was the case in the French Revolution. When the lawyers, political theorists, and philosophers got into the act, the blood really flowed.
    Will that happen here, in the months and years ahead? I do think so. We’ve grown ourselves a toxic aristocracy of privilege and mega-wealth as cheeky (or worse) than the fops and strumpets of Versailles. I confess, I feel a bit lusty for some Grand Guignol action myself. There are stock figures in The New York Observer’s weekly  “Shindigger” column who I would enjoy seeing treated after the manner of Vlad III, Prince of Wallachia, the celebrated “impaler.” And what better place for it than Zuccotti Park, a much more intimate venue than the agoraphobia-inducing Place de la Concord. You see what happens: in the absence of the rule of law even prudent men turn to the reptile agencies of mind.
     The truly interesting thing about America’s romance with our Wild West was that there was always an Unwild East to return to – if you survived adventuring in one piece. Well, first the frontier closed about 100 years ago, and now we wake on Christmas morning to discover that the whole land, from sea to shining sea, has gone feral with rot. Enjoy this nebulous week of suspended animation while it lasts. I’ll be back next Monday with the 2012 forecast.

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947 Responses to “A Christmas Carol 2011”

  1. alohavagabond December 26, 2011 at 9:31 am #

    First!

  2. kulturcritic* December 26, 2011 at 9:34 am #

    James, Let’s not forget our fellow essayist, RIP. kulturCritic
    http://kulturcritic.wordpress.com/posts/the-faith-of-christopher-hitchens-in-memoriam/

  3. Norman Conquest December 26, 2011 at 9:44 am #

    Thanks James Howard, my Christmas has come true!

  4. Norman Conquest December 26, 2011 at 9:47 am #

    Christmas wish, that is…now for the Banksters hung neatly from the lamp posts, like so many bloated Christmas stockings.

  5. matt December 26, 2011 at 9:47 am #

    what kind of idiot makes a practice of submitting a comment “first” with no other content? get a life.

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  6. dale December 26, 2011 at 9:48 am #

    Not meaning to bum anyone’s Christmas celebration out, but rumor has it the military is gearing up for something post-holiday in ME…..Iran?

  7. upstatebob December 26, 2011 at 9:49 am #

    colorful prose this morning. Even I have been swayed to almost
    thinking this game of propping up the debt and currency world
    can go on forever. -after all, now that currency is only a construct
    and an entry in a digital miasma,…. why not?

  8. Onthego December 26, 2011 at 9:51 am #

    We watch as new forms of poverty are categorized every day: the latest in this pantheon is Fuel Poverty, which is particularly daunting at this time of year. Will our feckless Congress return in January from their fatted calves and barrels of mead to slash the remaining few dollars from this “pork barrel” spending? Congress seems to agree that God does indeed hate the poor, who didn’t pick their parents nearly as well as did the Walton heirs, who are worth more collectively than most of the rest of us put together. Of course, not only will the poor always be with us, but there are more us every day. T latest scientific news is that the Bah, Humbug breed is indeed less attuned to human suffering than the 99ers. Practice does make perfect in this, as in all else. Throw another log on the fire and dream of spring gardens to come.

  9. steve December 26, 2011 at 10:03 am #

    Your predictions of impending doom are tiresome. Now, it’s going to hit the fan in the Spring – we’ll see.
    And I wonder who are the “thinking demographic slice” – probably those who think like you. Well, you thought Mr. Obama was the second coming and we know now how that worked out.
    I suggest you start sharpening your knitting needles, Monsieur DeFarge. You will have an honorary seat at the guillotine when the knife starts to fall – what fun!

  10. Smokyjoe December 26, 2011 at 10:03 am #

    Christmas-party tomfoolery this year:
    “I’m buying a new pickup.”
    me: “Great! What sort?”
    “I think I’ll go for the V8 Tundra.”
    me: “What sort of mileage?”
    “I don’t care about that. Gas is $2.99 now.”
    me: “For now…and what IS a dollar, anyway? I mean, what underlies the value? And if it slips…what will happen to that gas price?”
    “Uh…Don’t know.”
    And this, from sea to shining sea. Happy Holidays, all.

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  11. patternsoflife December 26, 2011 at 10:08 am #

    Can’t wait for 2012 to arrive

  12. tpverde December 26, 2011 at 10:15 am #

    Well, the suspension of intellectual activity must have been in overdrive recently as the numbers roll in indicating a new record in Holiday spending.
    Perhaps the impending doom is not just around the corner, but the downslope of Empire and middle class bliss is well greased with blame to share among most of the participants at the post-WWII American banquet.
    Nice to see my neighbors in Costa Rica exchanging tamales, drinking a bit more beer but otherwise going about their seasonal chores and not going deeper into debt chasing the toppling idol of grotesque over-consumption. puebloverde.org

  13. hmuller December 26, 2011 at 10:21 am #

    Mentioning the old west reminded me of one cultural feature it manifested which was always condemned in film – the vigilante lynch mob. Yet, as a counterpoint to rule by bullying, thieving oligarchs, it merits rethinking. When justice and the rule of law lie raped, bloodied, and discarded; self-help solutions may emerge.

  14. anti soak December 26, 2011 at 10:32 am #

    The continuing dialog [carried over from last week]
    On Jared Diamond:
    “Diamond opposes classifying human populations into races—except of course as to Jews and non-Jews.
    He gave his tacit assent to the proposed Israeli-Zionist policy of defining and classifying Jews and non-Jews on the basis of whether or not they possess “Jewish genes.”
    Indeed, notice what Diamond is saying: there are legitimate grounds for investigating how Jews differ genetically from non-Jews. The Israelis need to know who carries “Jewish genes” so as to determine who will be allowed to settle in the Zionist state.
    In his 1994 Discover article he says that the classification of humans into races based upon their biological makeup is “destined to follow the Flat Earth into oblivion.”22
    Yet, in his 1993 Natural History article he told us that the classification of Jews and non-Jews on the basis of genetic makeup has a bright future in Israel, as it may be used to differentiate between Jews and Gentiles.
    In the 2005 edition of Guns, Germs, and Steel, he tells us that dividing up peoples of the earth on the basis of race, such as “blacks” and “whites,” is arbitrary and misleading. Strangely enough, a few sentences later he writes that “recognizing these major [racial] groups is still so useful for understanding history.’

  15. anti soak December 26, 2011 at 10:34 am #

    I call it a con!
    Poverty = poverty, not ‘food insecurity’ ‘fuel poverty’etc ad nauseum.

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  16. DeeJones December 26, 2011 at 10:41 am #

    “Well, the suspension of intellectual activity must have been in overdrive recently as the numbers roll in indicating a new record in Holiday spending.”
    All fueled by yet more DEBT, I wonder how many just made the requisite purchases on credit and at the same time probably maxing it all out this year?
    The average US consumadroid has at least 6 cards in the wallet/purse, with a “limit” of at least $10k each, and they are all pretty much maxed out by now.
    And yes, the Christmas spirit IS different here, but greeting S. Clause with fireworks barrages till midnight is a bit different than back in the old USSA.
    But it is beautiful today.
    🙂

  17. balkan December 26, 2011 at 10:48 am #

    It is like old Mervyn’s shop window scratching commercial: “Open…Open…”. 🙂

  18. Neon Vincent December 26, 2011 at 10:49 am #

    Happy Boxing Day and a belated Merry Christmas, although it looks like James was asking Santa for Bastille Day to arrive prematurely. In due time, James, in due time. The U.S. does have the opportunity to fix things at the ballot box next year, although I suspect James things we’re much too far gone now for that to work.
    Speaking of the ballot box, the Republican nominees have been great gifts of comedy. Both Gingrich and Perry failed to make the ballot in the Virginia primary, and Ron Paul is now getting the scrutiny he deserves. Also, the Tea Partiers in Virginia are getting in the way of preparing for climate change and sea level rise by claiming that it’s all a UN conspiracy. Really. In the same vein, the Tea Party mayor and City Council of Troy, Michigan, turning down money for a train station/transit center. Looks like the corn pone Fascists really are that incompetent.
    Over at Crazy Eddie’s Motie News, I’ve blogged or plan to blog about all the above. Also, like James, I wrote a post about the economy being so bad that Santa needed help, although the version I posted had him getting help from China. My, Santa, you *are* in bad shape!
    http://crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/

  19. Liquid Lennny December 26, 2011 at 11:01 am #

    Sitting here, on a Monday morning with a cup of java, absorbing the last few remaining moments of silence before the family arise from their gift induced coma, makes me think, I kinda like this state of suspended animation. Too bad it only lasts for a week before it’s back to the sawmill.
    It’ll be amusing to see what magic tricks the financal world conjurs up this next year to keep the world from awaking from their self-induced slumber. I suggest we all enjoy these moments while they last.
    In keeping with Jim’s discussion last week concerning the arrogance of modernity I came across a site that I think is a good example of how to pevert a great idea. “Open source blueprints for civilization” Here you will learn how to build a tractor in only three days! What kind of Erector Set did this guy get for Christmas? I gotta think if I tried to build a tractor in my kitchen the HOA is going to be all over my a$%. And what exactly do I use to fuel this contraption? Potato peels, peanut shells and used beer, maybe processed excrement? Anyone got a site for homebased bio-fuel? The French did it with Gasogene during WW2 so maybe there is a way.
    Here’s the site for your own amusement, maybe you’ll find something of value;
    http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/marcin_jakubowski.html
    While you’re checking this out or reading more coherent comments other this one, here is a link to this year’s final musical selection. From a Russian born guy who now lives in Israel, for all the garbage going on in the world there is still much to live for, enjoy; and best wishes to all for the New Year!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZVSOTFBaMw

  20. ABSALOM December 26, 2011 at 11:02 am #

    A-Soak,
    You’ve got to actually read the book. Copying and pasting snippets of comments about the book from critics does not your own opinion make. You muddled the context of the remarks, provided no citation or reference and still need to work with the ideas for yourself so you can sound like you have a real point of contention. Carry on the conversation, please. Just make a little bit of sense so someone can follow you.
    ABSALOM

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  21. army December 26, 2011 at 11:10 am #

    Well, it’s the day after Christmas and the weather here in Western PA is not pretty. Gas is $3.35/ gallon…….price fixed here by a large chain, money market accounts are paying .10%, and the Senior Citizens are locked on to CNBC watching the status of their 401K.
    The gray hairs are starting to get nervous. It looks like they will have trouble this year affording to eat out three times per day and the money they donate to their churches will be in short supply. How will they buy their heaven insurance? But, they are happy…….every doctor office, car dealership, restaurant etc. have a 24 hour broadcast of FOX News playing and the seniors just lock on and spew out the crap they hear. They are proud to display their NRA and their Anti-Obama bumper stickers.
    The local Walmart looks like a freak show. The plethora of ear rings, tattos, and land whales dressed in PJ’s and tee-shirts is remarkable. Everyone has a cell phones…….walking and looking for the next great message. The welfare cards are being swiped in record numbers.
    On the brite side, traffic is starting to increase on local highways by the abundance of Marcellus well drillers with licence plates from the sunny south. The area is starting to look like a giant ground mole inherited Western PA. But, there is joy here for a few lucky land owners……..the Marcellus Gas Lease! The few folks who benefit from lease money are shopping for Cadillacs, RV’s, and pickup with four wheels in the back. Later they will look into dental care for the remaining tooth they had going into the lease meeting.
    The other folks…..those without leases are wondering if their water supply will be safe and if their homes will be worth anything.
    I wish the elections and the Republicans would just go away. We have enough with Obama screwing things up. Do we need more of the same?
    So we will see what happens in 2012. My neighbor hopes that the Mayan calendar is correct…..

  22. Neon Vincent December 26, 2011 at 11:10 am #

    “I don’t care about that. Gas is $2.99 now.”
    To think that’s considered cheap gas these days. When the price of unleaded regular passed that mark for the first time in the U.S. in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, that was considered exorbitant. The difference six years and three oil price shocks makes!

  23. ABSALOM December 26, 2011 at 11:15 am #

    This vid is a great contribution, Lenny. This is exactly the type of material I share with the college students I interact with. Open Source technology –Hardware– is where it’s at in a world made by hand. Less reliance and dependence on patent holders. More reliance on self-made engineers. Awesome!
    Thanks,
    ABSALOM

  24. Neon Vincent December 26, 2011 at 11:16 am #

    You’re making it sound like the old joke about Pennsylvania being Philadelphia at one end, Pittsburgh at the other end, and Alabama in between is true. Having just driven through the Commonwealth last month, I can tell you that isn’t quite true. Alabama doesn’t have such tall mountains.
    That written, it was interesting seeing the battle among energy supplies being played out on billboards alongside the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Coal and gas received a lot of exposure on multiple signs, while wind and solar only showed up on one billboard each. Looks like the fossil fools have the money to burn on PR!

  25. bubbleheadMarc December 26, 2011 at 11:19 am #

    “But rackets as grand and insolent as these would not be possible, except in a culture so estranged from truth that anything goes over without notice.”
    The residue from the boom times has to evaporate before notice will be taken. Also, so long as only the “losers” are whining no notice will be taken either. But the day will come and to trot out a cliche the hoofbeats of the four horsemen of the apocalypse must become distinctly audible. The Great Depression was intensified and prolonged by the European banking collapse of 1931, so a repeat performance is in the cards. The more smug members of the middle and upper-middle classes are still clinging to their middlebrow illusions that their blandness and lack of engagement somehow shield them from skid-row, and of course they are not going to believe something until after it has already occurred to them as well. Pretty much any of the dull normal majority who’ve landed some tidy little sinecure feeding at the public trough will be in for a rude awakening once they realize that marking third graders’ homework is not a marketable skill in the future cash world where everyone is an independent contractor. Ditto for careers enforcing laws which needn’t actually exist in the coming don’t make a fuck libertarian do-it-yourself world of no taxes and no public services. This world will also include burning your own turds like in the army since no taxes equals no sewers with which to convey our turds into the lake from which the drinking water is piped to now shuttered filtration plant. I think everyone will eventually get the point.

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  26. Workdove December 26, 2011 at 11:35 am #

    I applied for a car loan for a new fuel efficient car this year and I was declined due to a poor credit rating. I found a loan shark organization, which actively participated in the US sub-prime market real estate and they qualified me to buy a gas guzzing 2006 SUV- go figure??
    So now that I’ve traded in my beater for a used gas guzzing SUV, with a usury interest rate,I can see the direction for the future. More of the same until collapse.
    Where people,because of declining credit standards,can’t get credit to buy fuel efficient new vehicles. I can’t see hybrids, electric cars or anything else reducing our gasoline dependance anytime soon.

  27. sprezzatura December 26, 2011 at 11:36 am #

    I received “The KunstlerCast:” book as a Christmas present. What a great gift! I will enjoy hours of delightful reading.
    (I already own The Long Emergency, Geography of Nowhere, World Made By Hand, Home From Nowhere).

  28. andrei_timoshenko December 26, 2011 at 11:42 am #

    Bankruptcy, theft, and rampant consumerism cannot all be true at the same time. If everything, everywhere is bankrupt, then there is nothing to steal and nothing to consume. If there is theft and swindling, then there are assets around and some people (the ones being stolen from) are consuming less than they produce. If many are consuming much more than they produce while others are busy stealing, then there must still be a lot of stuff to go around.
    Our problem is not with asset existence (i.e. we have not and are not running out), but with asset distribution.

  29. Kurt Cagle December 26, 2011 at 11:44 am #

    This year, most of the presents under the tree were books, although puzzles, games of Scrabble and Monopoly (yup, teach ’em young), fabric, several skeins of yarn and sketchbooks/paper for my artist eldest daughter featured in there as well. No Kindles, no IPads, only one computer game (and that at a discount). I did get a drawing projector for my eldest and a lightboard/tracing board for my youngest, both of which technology that could have been built fifty years ago.
    Most of these things will be read or used for years – my daughter designs and sews her own clothes, and the paper will no doubt be used heavily there, in addition to selling artwork. She’s learned to knit and crochet, to bake and cook, in short, she’s learning skills that her grandmothers knew but her mother doesn’t.
    She’s as “connected” as most other kids her age, but when the lights go out and the electronics go off, I’m trying to make damn sure that she can survive on her own. I think that’s the greatest gift you can give to your children at this time in the grand cycle.

  30. piltdownman December 26, 2011 at 11:45 am #

    On my flight to LAX last night I was re-reading “Shock Doctrine” as ATC moved our A320 from one flight level to another, in a desperate attempt to avoid turbulence. I’ll let you fill in the blanks of the analogy…

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  31. ozone December 26, 2011 at 11:50 am #

    As an addendum to this week’s round of Clusterfuck-on-the-go and in-the-making, your comment is in perfect tune with my vision of the future also. (No need for further comment from me; thanks for providing me with a non-thinking day! ;o)

  32. greyghost05 December 26, 2011 at 12:02 pm #

    Good point about burning shit when it all goes down. I like the reference about flushing it out into the lake and then bring the water back in via the water treatment plant. Sounds like Toledo and Lake Erie. You can cruise down the Maumee river and go right past the waste treatment plant over in Point Place and bear a little to the right and drop a line for walleye or perch out by the water intake. I won’t drink the water in Toledo, cause no one can tell me how many toilets have been flushed up-stream in the head waters of the Maumee River. Or how much Roundup and 2 4 D has ran off the fields along the way. And then there is the little Ottawa River that dumps into it. After is passes the Dura Landfill. This one is so bad that there is no swiming or anyother water sports allowed below the dam up by UT. Yet on any given day you will see people fishing along the banks of either of these water ways.
    Storm’n Norman used to refer to Cleveland as “Paris on the Cuyohoga” you can think of Toledo as Can Tho on the Mekong.
    And just in time to bring hope and revenue to the area, they are building a Casino over in Rossford,right on the river for your boating pleasure.

  33. greyghost05 December 26, 2011 at 12:10 pm #

    Here’s a site you can use to check gas prices in the Toledo metro area. It also lets you connect to other cities.
    Right now prices are 309 to 349.
    http://www.toledogasprices.com/
    Happy Motoring !

  34. hreardon December 26, 2011 at 12:29 pm #

    Problem is, the Feds are prepared with operational FEMA camps nationwide, for which they are advertizing for detention camp guards. Now there is a job with a future. How about a truck load of martial law signs being sent West from Oklahoma recently to show this administration is on top of things, especially with the removal of the Posse Comatatus law in sections 1031 and 1033 of the just-enacted National Defense Reauthorization Act. Welcome to the US version of Nazi Germany.

  35. K December 26, 2011 at 12:39 pm #

    On Wall Street some are saying there’s a 75% chance they’ll be a European-led collapse in the first quarter of 2013 that will make the 2008 debacle look like a dress rehearsal. Grace – Always just in the nick of time!
    http://www.Thesisa.org/

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  36. greyghost05 December 26, 2011 at 12:46 pm #

    Here’s a site you can use to check gas prices in the Toledo metro area. It also lets you connect to other cities.
    Right now prices are 309 to 349.
    http://www.toledogasprices.com/
    Happy Motoring !

  37. anti soak December 26, 2011 at 12:46 pm #

    Thanks….I did read his books!
    I think hes a talented writer/self promoter.
    Not much of a scientist however!

  38. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 12:47 pm #

    Have you burned your own shit? Does it burn well? Is it a possible energy source? Smell bad perhaps?

  39. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 12:50 pm #

    Illusions from the chattering class? You mean like worrying about a Right Wing Christian Takeover during a slow motion Communist Coup?

  40. greyghost05 December 26, 2011 at 12:54 pm #

    I guess the questions that should be asked might run along these lines.
    1) Where was the main stream media on this ? Rachel, Keith, Chris, billy O’, Sean, Rush ?
    2) Why was there no real debate in either the House or Senate ? It passed the Senate 93 to 7.
    3) And why is this being put in place ?
    Scary but just maybe Jesse Ventura isn’t full or shit or crazy after all !

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  41. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 12:56 pm #

    Rush just said, “Nascar Fans, like most Americans, are mature, intelligent people who don’t like being refered to as “bitter clingers”.
    Rush’s usual combination of lies and truths. Most people, they left or right, are idiots. Nascar probably contains more idiots than other most other groups – but Pro-Wrestling Fans are probably even more stupid. On the other hand, people have every right to hold onto their God and their Guns. And resenting Elitists who mock them for this is perfectly natural.

  42. greyghost05 December 26, 2011 at 1:01 pm #

    Vlad, you have your finger right on the pulse of what’s going down.
    Interesting times ahead fore sure.

  43. jpfreemon December 26, 2011 at 1:03 pm #

    As long as the idiot box and other techno-wonder gadgets can provide a constant stream of endorphins to the American brain, all will be well. Rodger Waters might have provided America’s epitaph: ‘They amused themselves to death’

  44. 8man December 26, 2011 at 1:10 pm #

    Contrary to the “Big Bang”, Information (Information Relationships) are connecting all of the dots of the Universe with each other, all chunks of matter and events, and in time also all past events are becoming connected, hence are creating a zero space and time difference between two disjoint Chunks of Matter and their corresponding events, hence what Information is doing is a Big Crunch, the Opposite of a Big Bang, the Internet is exactly this connecting all points to each other, any two points in space, any two delimitations, factoids, any issue, any two houses (cars ? persons ? etc.) on earth, any atom on earth is connected to any other, will be connected to any other through a sequential path of connections, thought paths, maybe even a long complex chain, but somehow connected, so zero space and time, the Big Crunch of the Universe into another substrate, the Information Relationship Universe having zero space and zero time (although there still is some relationship with time and space as a large memory of events and information extends in space and time, other strange relationships ? but any information has zero theoretical distance form any possible other).
    But maybe Space and Time are simply the resistance the “Laws of Physics” perform for an Information Relationship to transit from a Starting Point to a Target Point, the interdiction, the difficulty (but not necessarily) of going from one information to another according to the laws of physics (but most likely just assigned casually, for no deeper reason): but the Information Machine we are creating is eliminating any possible resistance from Start to Target information, hence is eliminating the “laws of Physics”…
    The distance between one configuration of bits from any other configuration can be theoretically zero…
    The distance between this configurtion of bits “YWY£/YE/Y/” and this one “RYYTYYTY%%%%%” is ZERO, and those bits can be associated to anything possible (even new Brains), although there is a small spatial distance, but that is just operational not inherent to the information…
    AN EGGMAN

  45. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 1:12 pm #

    As you requested: Indian IQ’s. The Ashkenazi IQ seems a bit high in this report – everyone agrees that it is the highest but it is usually found to be around 108. The 115 is their usual verbal score – not their all round IQ.
    But the report does show the importance of distinguishing ourselves from South Asian/Arabs who are distinctly inferior to Whites in terms of intelligence. Thus we are White and they are merely Caucasians – our poor brown relations.
    Now if White Aryans did invade India and defeat the South Asians – naturally there will be alot of mixed lineages with some still carrying the Aryan IQ’s. Also it may be more complicated since the ancient Dravidians may be different from the South Asians. These Black White Men have produced some great Mathematicians and had a Civilization before the Whites came.

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  46. 8man December 26, 2011 at 1:12 pm #

    That was from:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=177699
    AN APE

  47. ront December 26, 2011 at 1:14 pm #

    Favorite line in this week’s contribution:
    “But rackets as grand and insolent as these would not be possible, except in a culture so estranged from truth that anything goes over without notice.”
    “Seek truth with all your heart…”

  48. Liquid Lennny December 26, 2011 at 1:14 pm #

    Absalom,
    The prospect of “Open Source technology coupled with personal 3-D media printers is a most intrigueing concept. Perhaps for moderately complex objects, but a tractor or more sophisticated mechanical device, I doubt it. And though I know I need to clean out the garage I know I don’t have that much structural steel or many hydraulic pistons laying around. Still “Open Source” disemination of Information / Knowledge along with the requesite means to convey the information, ie. Internet, would seem to be a means to enable limited manufacture on a local basis as we head towards de-globalization. However, the energy problem is certain to haunt us here. 3-D printers still need power and the “media” source material whether recycled plastic, ceramic or biofiber needs to to processed from somewhere, somehow. Fortunately, I’ll leave the answer to solving those problems to more nimble minds than this one.
    The TED site is a bit of a problem for me when I see the sponsors are a who’s who list of multinational companies, but then corporations are people too, right?
    Still there seems to be some interesting ideas presented at TED, and who knows who will be inspired to take up the ball and carry it into the endzone. Glad you liked the link, it’s all about sharing…

  49. AMR December 26, 2011 at 1:26 pm #

    You’re spot on about our attitudes towards “losers.” The “it can’t happen to me” attitude explains an awful lot about American politics. In some ways we have never been a particularly empathetic people, as witnessed by our history with slavery, Jim Crow and most recently our overwhelmingly class- and race-based prison state. It is widely considered almost treasonous to deny that we’re the freest country on earth, and yet we have one of the largest per capita prison populations on earth. Our prison state is downright metastatic, but there’s practically no political will to deal with it because its victims are, as you say, losers. The same thing is generally true of our policies towards the homeless, although the latter policies are driven less by malice than by indifference.
    There is some residual empathy in our culture, but it has been under sustained attack from our politicians and media for two or three decades. The churches trying to revive empathy and the other virtues arising from empathy are fighting an uphill battle not only against CNN, Fox News and our politicians but also against mercenary churches and religious broadcasters. Pat Robertson and Joel Osteen do not encourage anything resembling empathy, but rather malice dressed up as righteousness and greed dressed up as righteousness, respectively. Rick Warren doesn’t put much of an emphasis on responsibility to the community, either. Other major religious broadcasters, like SRN and K-Love, get caught up in wedge issue sideshows and the navelgazing sort of praise and worship. Our religious leadership is either too malicious, too mercenary or too distracted to midwife an actual, meaningful spiritual renewal, and our secular leadership doesn’t have the moral clarity to do so.
    A part of me hopes you’re right about the coming libertarian scope of government, because the alternatives are very frightening and dangerous. Post-Soviet Russia is a prime example: the libertarians were widely regarded as mobsters and thieves, which some of them were; Boris Yeltsin was well-meaning but too drunk and disorganized for the job, and so he invited the spook Putin to clean up the mess. No amount of libertarian political correctness is worth a damn when a country’s pensioners and soldiers are reduced to eating dog food. Putin’s bargain, which held up pretty well until this year, was that the electorate would abandon its demands for open society in exchange for economic stability and less brazen robbery by the powerful.
    I fear that the United States does not have the political or moral maturity to weather a transition in the fashion of post-Soviet Poland or the Czech Republic. We have a lot of crazies with guns. If they launch a serious insurrection, as opposed to their usual dilettante militia drills, I have trouble imagining that the Army won’t be called in; it has been widely forgotten that the Army and the Marines helped put down an armed insurrection in Los Angeles twenty years ago. If the armed forces aren’t organized enough to put down insurrections (say, because there’s no way to pay the personnel), we’ll be in very dangerous circumstances. There are exceedingly few places in the United States where the local police have the ability and sound judgment to step into a power vacuum without making a total mess of things; alternately, if the cops just go home, the armed civilian crazies most places will almost certainly turn into African-style warlords.
    It’s a very bad sign that prisons are still being treated as boons to local economies rather than the drains on state and national treasuries that they are. With luck our governments will find ways to triage their prisoners and release the majority who aren’t dangerous. So far, only a handful of states have done anything of the sort, and the feds haven’t. If the prisons aren’t depopulated substantially and intelligently, the default will probably be riots in prisons that are understaffed because the guards are owed back pay (these guys are patently more mercenary in their worldview than our police or military), and likely the mass escape or release not only of the Bernie Madoffs and Rod Blagojeviches but also of stone-cold murderers and rapists.
    It worries me that our prison guards seem to have absolutely no discretion, judgment or moral courage in dealing with their charges; they are clearly much worse than our cops in this regard. It would be one thing if they were responsible for guarding a few hundred thousand violent psychopaths, but they’re also responsible for guarding well over a million petty criminals who are in the process of becoming hardened in their institutions. If the guards don’t come across some common sense and moral courage, we’re in serious danger of mayhem in any of our prison towns if payroll can’t be met.

  50. hreardon December 26, 2011 at 1:41 pm #

    Jesse Ventura had it right, but they apparently shut him up. He showed a Fema camp in Southern Indians, where it was surrounded by barbed wire about 12+ feet high, and the top inclined inward, with a rail head ending inside the barbed wire enclosure. The head honcho (?) claimed the camp was a rest area for federal employees and refused to answer further questions and called the police, who escorted Jesse and his crew off the grounds. Not too difficult for the rulers to shut down a program that brings scrutiny to their evil intentions, thus no more of Ventura’s interesting and informative show. The VIPR squad for the TSA should scare the hell out of any thinking American. Obama now has his wished for 250,000 person internal security force, aka Brownshirts.

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  51. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 1:47 pm #

    Oops, forgot to Link. Carried away by my eloquence.
    http://www.vdare.com/articles/indians-arent-that-intelligent-on-average

  52. helen highwater December 26, 2011 at 1:53 pm #

    “An opportunity to fix things at the ballot box next year” – you’ve got to be kidding. No matter who gets elected, they are still going to be puppets whose strings are held by the very same puppet masters who are holding the strings now. The time when a change of government representatives can “fix things” is long over. Much more drastic measures are going to be needed for things to be “fixed”, if that is even possible at this late date.

  53. SNAFU December 26, 2011 at 1:55 pm #

    Howdy Army, Per your comment: “every doctor office, car dealership, restaurant etc. have a 24 hour broadcast of FOX News playing and the seniors just lock on and spew out the crap they hear. They are proud to display their NRA and their Anti-Obama bumper stickers”.
    Up here in Appalachia North Fox does not get quite the play you reference and a few of us, Old Assholes, are actually “gasp” liberal. Unfortunately your vision is in the main correct and not constrained to the geriatric set.
    I continue to be astounded as to the ease with which the 1% convince half or nearly so of the 99% that maintaining the lifestyle of greed for the 1% is of far greater import than a rational and reasonable distribution of the Earths resources amongst 100% of the Earth’s inhabitants.
    SNAFU

  54. Newfie December 26, 2011 at 1:58 pm #

    “swap lines opened up between the US Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank and around $600-odd billion in ZIRP loans flowed to over 200 Euro banks. Maybe that will cover the next two weeks of aggregate debt rollovers, and then what? ”
    The Fed has infinite amounts of “money”. They just add more zeros to a computer account whenever they need more “money”. They can keep the worldwide Ponzi scheme going for a quite while. I’d say the decline will be smeared out over several decades. As long as there is some oil, gas, coal, and minerals the economy will sputter along, although not firing on all cylinders.

  55. Jimmy Drinkwater December 26, 2011 at 2:01 pm #

    Hoo boy, a cheery little holiday message there. It’s like Scrooge having the same visions night after night……..kind of a Dickens meets Groundhog Day.
    http://alttransbikes.blogspot.com

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  56. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 2:02 pm #

    We’ve locked up so many Blacks and Brown Criminals that there isn’t anymore room yet they keep coming. At some point it becomes obvious that something else is going on: that the gangs are part of a low level guerrila war. We’ll never have peace in this Country now with this amount of ethnic diversity – especially since the two major minority groups hate our guts.
    Yes, with some justification, but so what? Are you willing to die or become their slave just “to make it right”? Make what right and for whom? All Liberal Leftists are existentially inauthentic in that they damn the Nation and Heroes that gave them their privledged lifestyle and soap box. They grandly consign other Whites to pay the debt they so cavalierly have taken on. If you don’t like America and its History, then you should go elsehwere. Or stay since the Elite intend to make Whites as equally poor as the Blacks and Browns. That means you too though. You Liberal Middle and Upper Middle Class hypocrites aren’t getting out of it this time. Let’s see you walk your talk. Maybe you’ll get to be a butler for some Colored Lesbians or something. Excited?
    Note: We tried to make it right but Black Crime and social break down increased since the onset of Civil Rights. And now under Obama the mob attacks have commenced.

  57. helen highwater December 26, 2011 at 2:05 pm #

    Are you saying the loan shark organization only qualifies people to buy certain types of vehicles?

  58. PRD December 26, 2011 at 2:06 pm #

    Anybody see the videos from the new Michael Jordan tennis shoe riots? Hoo boy. Answers the question “will crowds of people react with grace, dignity, and cooperation if (when) the food/gas/water gets low?”

  59. Metzengerstein December 26, 2011 at 2:07 pm #

    What irony, using the CF Nation comments board to market a real-estate development. LOLZ

  60. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 2:29 pm #

    So far is it from being true that men are naturally equal that no two people can be half an hour together but one acquires an evident superiority over the other. – Samuel Jonson
    AMR’s “empathy” is just code for denying that this is true. His “let em all out” is the worst kind of left wing social engineering. He is correct that America is finished though – thanks to people like him. We aren’t a People anymore – just a rainbow colored mob. His image of the ideal state is a gay pride parade. Well let him and his eat cake – and nothing else.

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  61. ABSALOM December 26, 2011 at 2:42 pm #

    A-Soak,
    Alright signor. If you say you read his work and don’t agree, that’s fine, I’ll take you at your word.
    To your point that he may not be much of a scientist I’ll have to agree partly here too. The distinction I make, however, is that the scientific method cannot be applied strictly to the study of human beings for obvious ethical reasons. Rigorous scientific studies do not exist in any mainstream studies of human social behavior. We cannot dissect uncle Fred, cannot force little brother to participate in experiments that could be deadly and so on. This is perhaps a good thing I think we’d agree, but your right — social science is a sketchy undertaking. I share this disdain for social theory and disregard most of the shameless literary snobs who portend to know something about humans based typically on not much more than conjecture or inductive reasoning. But it depends I guess on what one considers “strong” evidence.
    On the other hand, we never know what ethical boundaries are being crossed for studying humans across borders, or in remote underground locations, or on military aircraft carriers far out to see. Kind of Spooky, if you ask me. And it wouldn’t be new of humans to chop up folks and put’em under a microscope.
    Anyhow, one last article from Diamond, if you haven’t already stumbled across it. I enjoyed it, but I’m admittedly a “believer.” Check it out!
    http://www.ditext.com/diamond/mistake.html
    =========================================
    ABSALOM

  62. tegmark December 26, 2011 at 2:42 pm #

    The Observer, the Information Relationship “Interactor”, the Processor, in short, the slab of Matter (Mass Energy that is receiving signals from another “external” slab of Matter (but simply assigned external arbitrarily as there is no external or internal, only Matter self interacting and talking to itself)), decoding signals from other slabs of Matter, and living an experience of life or consciousness or anything else possible (although impossible to really define or pinpoint down or delimit or understand) can be seen as a kind of high frequency circuit that is comparing itself to anything it comes in contact with; everything it interacts with is being compared to itself (the frequency is the heartbeat ? or the memory activation of “who he is” ? “his conscousnesss” ? etc.) so hence the Observer defines the Universe 100 %, is the Universe, defines the “laws of Physics” from the outset, by how it is designed and how it interacts with all that it comes in contact with (but it comes in contact mostly with its own imagination, only with abstract symbols that have evaporated from reality but were created through a pain/pleasure event that created the reality of the symbol, even if indirectly, very indirectly and a very long time ago and through a very long – complex chain of reasons where all of single reasons have been lost forever in an intractable sea of vagueness…)

  63. helen highwater December 26, 2011 at 2:52 pm #

    Oh Vlad, for god’s sake, can’t you just ONCE spare us from your racist bullshit?

  64. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 3:03 pm #

    The Govement gave Black Women more money than their husbands could earn. So the Woman kicked them out and stopped marrying in general. As Yellowstone Rangers say, trouble starts where the dumb tourists meet the smart bears. Just so, trouble started when the Welfare Bureacrats met Black Women. White Women are coming right along now too. We need to get all Women on Welfare so that children can be educated by the State and the Family ended.

  65. ABSALOM December 26, 2011 at 3:15 pm #

    Lenny wrote:
    The prospect of “Open Source technology coupled with personal 3-D media printers is a most intriguing concept. Perhaps for moderately complex objects, but a tractor or more sophisticated mechanical device, I doubt it. And though I know I need to clean out the garage I know I don’t have that much structural steel or many hydraulic pistons laying around.
    =============================================
    Agreed, no man is an island of resources: even if you own arable land and a well for irrigation, one day the well will run dry and the farming equipment will break. The question is will fiat paper and corporate patents be the obstacles to replenishing supplies that they are today? If the economy collapses, there will still be a tremendous amount of “stuff” that we’ll need for survival left sitting around. The trouble is about agreeing whether to “pool” the resources or act stingy. Big issue indeed.
    ============================================
    Lenny: Still “Open Source” dissemination of Information / Knowledge along with the requisite means to convey the information, ie. Internet, would seem to be a means to enable limited manufacture on a local basis as we head towards de-globalization.
    ==============================================
    Simply put, returning to a point in society where people actually possess useful skills is key. Instead of spending a bunch of useless paper to buy an education at the nearest brainwashing station, It’d be nice to get together with your neighbors and teach one another how to build stuff. I used to love working on cars with my uncle. He restored Model A Fords from the ground up, and only ever purchased the mechanical manuals in order to teach himself how to do it. That’s nearly unheard of today.
    ============================================== Lenny: However, the energy problem is certain to haunt us here. 3-D printers still need power and the “media” source material whether recycled plastic, ceramic or bio-fiber needs to to processed from somewhere, somehow. Fortunately, I’ll leave the answer to solving those problems to more nimble minds than this one.
    ===========================================
    True, in a world made by hand there will be no indefinite solution to our resource allocation strategies, no utopia. We’ll always need to refine our methods; a process that requires all people who use energy to “know” something about the scientific method and natural rules. Constant innovation and adaptation = improvement, not perfection. Our present system require entropy and stagnation — arrested development, repurchase. Right now, we have all the means to generate sufficient amounts of electricity, we just fuk it all up by leaving the means to disseminate it in the hands of the few. The death of us all.
    ==============================================
    Lenny: The TED site is a bit of a problem for me when I see the sponsors are a who’s who list of multinational companies, but then corporations are people too, right?
    ==============================================
    Fuck’em. The desire to capitalize and monopolize the resources of this planet which belong to no one and everyone is the shittiest idea man has ever come up with, and it’s time is long past. And by no means does this require a shift to just another -ism. Human survival depends on ever new ideas, not defunct ideologies.
    ==========================================
    Lenny: Glad you liked the link, it’s all about sharing…
    ===========================================
    Careful, man. Some asshat here might consider you a Communist — a tiny little box to be in.
    Thanks again,
    ABSALOM

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  66. newworld December 26, 2011 at 3:24 pm #

    To be blunt you are no moral superior, you are responsible for the liberal welfare state and we decent people might survive our bankster thieves, but you literally cannot outrun a low IQ mob newly equipped with Air Jordans, so thank you for being part of the destructive force that has done its part to ruin America.
    And a note to you “nice” white liberals, the gig is up.

  67. anti soak December 26, 2011 at 3:35 pm #

    For those who want to see shoe riots…
    SBPDL.COM
    sheesh the way they knock the door off!

  68. anti soak December 26, 2011 at 3:36 pm #

    ‘gig is up.’
    its JIG, as in Irish Jig.

  69. Eleuthero December 26, 2011 at 3:42 pm #

    Well, with the Dow at the upper end of its trading range and the public spending like drunken sailors despite real wages falling like a stone in a pond, the ECRI Weekly Leading Index is saying the same thing it said two months ago … recession dead ahead.
    Poor Mr. Achuthan of ECRI is being laughed at again on Bloomberg TV by the talking heads. He reminded them of their bullishness in April, 2008 when the Dow had regained two-thirds of its fall from December, 2007. The problem with these talking heads isn’t just their dumb hubris, it’s that after perspicacious guys like Mr. Achuthan prove mega-correct they forget to apologize in the aftermath of their disastrous folly of inaccuracy.
    ECRI has never made a recession call that was incorrect and they’ve never had a false positive. Next year will be a TRUE clusterfuck of a corporate profit recession, renewed consumer credit problems, and, of course, a resumption of reality in Europe.
    Naturally, the Jiminy Crickets came out in force at the top of this week’s thread to tell JHK that, once again, he’s “wrong”. No matter that the ONLY “indicator” that’s good right now is the Dow. Workforce participation is at a 28-year low, more people are stopping looking for work than are getting jobs by a 3:1 ratio, the Congress can’t even agree on a deal to reduce the national debt by 10% over a decade, more financial crooks like Jon Corzine roam as free men while a kid smoking a joint in Kansas does community service, and next year’s election, once again, will be dumb against dumber … or is it corrupt vs. more corrupt … I lost track.
    However, optimists such as Jim’s naysayers above, being what they are, will insist that pigs can fly as long as CFN exists. Happy New Year????
    E.

  70. ABSALOM December 26, 2011 at 3:44 pm #

    This is just a starting point.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPPDzErmFLk&feature=related
    What ideas would YOU bring to the table?
    ABSALOM

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  71. Adam Eran December 26, 2011 at 3:58 pm #

    Kunstler needs to read the Modern Monetary Theorist economists. MMT notes that all money is “notional.” Historically it has not always been commodity-backed. The Greeks pioneered gold-backed money, but English Kings, for one example, marked their debts as notches on hickory sticks. Money arose not as a part of a commodity exchange, but as “I’ll owe you one.”
    This doesn’t mean the current shenanigans of financial markets are not crooked. The idea here is to gin up a false crisis about sovereign debt and use it to loot the public realm.
    The idea of money as scorekeeping rather than a commodity means we can never run out. Period. That’s not to say the Fed (the U.S. central bank) should issue infinite money, but the idea of dollar denominated debt that couldn’t be paid back is as silly as the idea of a scorekeeper at a sporting event running out of points.
    And the Fed knows this too. It issued $16 – $29 trillion to bail out the Finance, Insurance and Real Estate (FIRE) sector of the economy.
    But when grandma’s Social Security and Medicare are on the line…”Whoops! We’re out of money!”
    So the thing to worry about is *not* running out of money (or even “inflation”), it’s the transfer of wealth.
    Deflation, which is precisely what we’re experiencing now with record low bond yields, is also a transfer of wealth from debtors to creditors. Michael Hudson says it’s designed to make free public goods into ones with “toll booths” that pay the rentiers. And sure enough, whether it’s parking meters in Chicago, or Bolivian public water systems, there are movements afoot to privatize lots of the public realm.
    The Greeks, who don’t have control over their own currency, are a basket case because they can’t devalue their way out of the un-payable debts they have. Their creditors are suggesting mortgages or privatization on the Parthenon, their ports, etc.
    Greece is actually not much of a problem. Its economy is the size of Miami, Florida’s. The real problems are Spain and Italy, even though Spain actually ran budget surpluses.
    Anyway, read Randall Wray, Steve Keen, or Yves Smith about this stuff. Kunstler is great at drama, but if you want substance, the MMT guys are the way to go.

  72. AMR December 26, 2011 at 4:00 pm #

    Vlad, you distorted the hell out of what I wrote and put words in my mouth. You’ve made some sense in the past, but frankly your rhetoric today has proven that you are totally full of shit. Your intellectual dishonesty and purposeful distortion of my arguments has truly become contemptible.
    Nowhere did I write that we should “let them all out.” I argued that we should triage our prisoners in order to keep the ones who are a clear threat to society and release the ones who aren’t. That position does not make me some sort of stooge for every foolish or destructive policy out of the lefty playbook.
    For the record, I am not a doctrinaire leftist or Democrat. I’m pretty well disgusted with both major parties and most of the mass media, underwhelmed by the larger third parties, and looking desperately for alternatives that are competent and that have our country’s best interests at heart. I’ve written similar things before, so you have no reason to infer that I’m a left-wing loon, but of course you aggressively project that sort of infantile caricature onto everyone who disagrees with your simplistic racist and ideological glosses.
    At the risk of preaching to the choir, a brief housekeeping note for the rest of CFN: If you want to understand my beliefs, thought processes, and so forth, read what I’ve written. Don’t listen to this petulant, turd-hurling buffoon.

  73. scott December 26, 2011 at 4:08 pm #

    Who is still not impressed with the ability of these central banks, and their owner-operators, to keep re-circulating immense loads of notional money?

    I dont blame the Central Bankers, at least they are technocrats unlike corrupt politicians. They are managing a decline fairly well despite the crappy hands being steadily dealt to them by corrupt politicians.
    I think that the worlds terminal decline would be more sustainable if wealth were distributed more equitably. There are alot of if’s and as ole Dandy Don Meredith would say, “If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas” The status quo isn’t sustainable and can’t be in the long run enforced so I expect 2012 to be something different than a linear extrapolation of the past. I expect the U.S. and other developed nations to make every effort to prop up the status quo of linearly extrapolating the status quo indefinitely into the future except that would mean the developing nations would have to stop developing and take the brunt of(inequitable)decline.
    Maybe we will get a linear extrapolation of the past several years where consumption of things that are consumed on a daily basis declines in developed countries commensurate with increases in consumption in developing countries? I don’t think so.
    There is too much inelastic consumption by sacred cows in developed countries and that is where the line is drawn in the sand as far as the declining consumption in developed countries/rising consumption in developing countries dynamic is concerned. The biggest sacred cow being healthcare. 900 military base around the world, 2-3 wars going on at any given time and healthcare costs more annually than that. Without medicare medicaid money, almost every hospital/healthcare institution would have to close their doors. I could go on for hours about healthcare, particularly where “free markets” and other euphemisms are concerned.
    So if a managed decline has little elasticity left in developed countries consumption, and btw, focusing on PIIGS consumption while predictable and a drop in the bucket in developed countries consumption ain’t gonna cut it, then what will cut it? Developing countries pullback in consumption? A sharp decline in China? What will that accomplish? Chinese (human)energy already accounts for a good chunk of developed countries standard of living. At some point there is no point in China participating at all in the global clusterfuck if it is all give and no take?
    My forecast for 2012 biggest stories(yeah right, like this crash is gonna be televised) is in order of relevance not chronological order
    1)China
    2)U.S. energy production(not what it is purported to be)
    3)brief recession followed by rapid reflation(FED and ECB can’t openly print and juice markets with oil hovering at $100 a barrel.
    4) Gold low 1250 avg 2200 high 3000
    5) crude oil low 62 avg 135 high 162

  74. Buck Stud December 26, 2011 at 4:16 pm #

    ” Slouched in woe beside the Christmas tree, a lot of Americans missed the point of 2011:”
    Another point might be made that there will never be a shortage of “woe” lurking around the corner of a person’s life. And with so much woe looking entire societies straight in the face one begins to wonder how to derive satisfaction from a life so perilous and uncertain. Certainly money and security helps, but even at that, pancreatic cancer can strike down one of the world’s most wealthiest men in the prime of his very celebrated life.
    It seems to me fighting the good fight is learning how to live in the moment as best as one can while simultaneously keeping an eye on the horizon. And also allowing the rear view mirror a seat at the table of current consideration when need be. Without waxing too cliche, there’s a lot of truth to that old adage that only when fear of death is conquered does living a life become possible. Otherwise, we’re always looking over our shoulder or too far out into the horizon for the perilous sand trap that prevents a beautiful swing at life.

  75. hreardon December 26, 2011 at 4:38 pm #

    Well said Buck Stud. Being aware of threats to your lifestyle, livlihood, and even life, does not mean you cannot enjoy living, family, and friends. Might call it compartmentalizing your existence, but it works. No need to hide, or fear, if you are prepared for any eventuality. Hope everyone is, or getting, prepared.

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  76. BeantownBill December 26, 2011 at 4:45 pm #

    Buck, great comments! It seems so simple doesn’t it? Just live in the now. Animals live their lives that way; I watch my cat do it every day. Unfortunately, humans have this big growth on top of their shoulders called a cerebral cortex. They’re too aware of possibility and too aware of past events, thus making living in the now very difficult.

  77. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 4:50 pm #

    It’s important that’s why. You see there is a strong direct correlation between IQ and Income. The higher the IQ, the higher the income. Now if you Big Goverment types believed in Meritocracy, then it wouldn’t matter nearly as much. Everyone would find their own level as per their abilities. But since you people believe in “equal outcomes” then IQ becomes a salient factor if not Thee salient factor. Why should I have to foot the bill to fund Minorities who don’t belong in College? Why should I get my place in a job line bumped because less qualified minorites want the same job? It can’t be made equal if they aren’t equal. And discrimination against Whites ceases to be a temporary measure and becomes a way of life. We’re already there now though many try to pretend otherwise. And pretending that IQ doesn’t exist or that it’s all do to environment is the Key to keeping the whole scam going – and keeping people like you in the money.

  78. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 4:58 pm #

    “Tiny Tots with eyes all aglow” – like demons. Did you see the way they tore their presents open while making animals noises? Little Consumer Beasts – already ruined for life perhaps.
    There is a strong aspect of relativity in life. As Castro said, when in prison you worry about getting out. Once out, you worry about other things. It’s not exactly zero sum but it tends that way in a life passively lived. We must become the Artists of our own selves and ruthlessly chip away at that which obstructs our true image or eidelon. Inside every skinny man there is fat man trying to get out – fat with virtue. The very act of chipping enlarges one.

  79. ak December 26, 2011 at 5:02 pm #

    Today’s word: brigandage

    brigand: one who lives by plunder usu. as a member of a band : BANDIT

  80. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 5:03 pm #

    It’s true I took a bit of license of that point – I too favor decriminalization of the substance you like. But in the main, in the spirit, I was correct. Your whole soft male spirit is wrong for the times that are coming. Away with Empathy. Close the border. If you don’t live here, don’t surf here. Gird up thy loins. Beat your ploughshares into swords, your pruining hooks into spears.
    And I did agree with you that we are finished: no longer a people anymore thanks to unlimited immigration by alien peoples – many of whom hate us. As if having the Blacks here wasn’t bad enough we went ahead and imported another hostile Nation (Mexico and her Central American Brothers) into midst. Thank Teddy. Needless to say that you approved all that. If I’m wrong, I apologize.

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  81. metuselah December 26, 2011 at 5:15 pm #

    That is an extremely misguided approach. It basically amounts to burring your head in the sand. And contrary to your belief, it will condemn youz to death sooner rather than later.

  82. metuselah December 26, 2011 at 5:27 pm #

    ..burying your head in the sand..

  83. BeantownBill December 26, 2011 at 5:35 pm #

    In the spirit of the season, and in trying not to steal JHK’s thunder in his next post, I now announce BTB’s 2012 predictions, in no particular order:
    1. KIm Kardashian finds love again.
    2. A new wheat bacterium wipes out 90% of the world’s supply, and 700,000,000 people starve to death.
    3. Dale, Jr. wins the Indy 500.
    4. A Russian oligarch buys the Roman coliseum and moves it to Moscow when the Italian government begins to sell off assets to avoid default. The owner of the London Bridge (now located in Arizona) complains that the auction for the coliseum was rigged.
    5. The biggest scandal in the Catholic Church’s history ensues when it’s discovered that Pope Benedict was born to a Jewish couple who put him up for adoption, and thus gives new meaning to the question, “Is the Pope Catholic?”
    6. As the EU tanks, European money flees to American soveriegn bonds, which hit a low of -5%.
    7. Iran displays it’s 1st atomic bomb; the price of oil hits $220/barrel and the US prepares for a “raid” into Iran to destroy the WMD’s.
    8. A gigantic methane superbubble from underneath the melting Siberian permafrost pops into the atmosphere and causes a world-wide stink.
    9. In August, Nike introduces its new Pocket Rocket line of sneakers which contain a tiny cold fusion reactor that allows the wearer to jump 25′ and run the entire length of a basketball court in 1 second. In December, 250 people die at the Mall of America during a riot at the Sports Authority store.
    10. Joe Biden is replaced at the democratic convention by ex-pope Benedict, and Obama wins in a landslide over the Romney/Osteen ticket.

  84. Vlad Kramps December 26, 2011 at 5:45 pm #

    It’s their plan. Incarcerate or electronically monitor any and all disenters. An amazingly large number of citizens can be placed under electronic surveillance monitoring for such things as marijuana use, spousal abuse, suspicion of fraud, repeat traffic offenders, non-payment of civil fines (parking tickets, etc.)delinquent child support, that it really won’t cost much to keep us all under the proverbial thumb of our government and its hired henchmen. It’ll save a fortune on 3-squares, a cot, and a roommate type of arrangements at the jails, which are now full to overflowing. Now quietly raise your hands, boys and girls, if you’ve ever sped through a traffic light (I swear it was yellow, occifer), went over the speed limit, jay-walked, let your car registration/inspection expire. Coming soon to a town near you: severe penalties for not stopping at a traffic light, speeding, petty-theft, jaywalking, which will render the “criminal” unable to pay the fine and be subject to house arrest. Now when these “criminals” get evicted out into the streets, you’ll start to see some really interesting things happen. If you look carefully enough, the future I’ve mapped out is already here. Happy Holidays!

  85. metuselah December 26, 2011 at 5:50 pm #

    6. As the EU tanks, European money flees to American soveriegn bonds, which hit a low of -5%.
    ==
    We’re half way there. 😀

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  86. bubbleheadMarc December 26, 2011 at 5:56 pm #

    Great essay in response to my far less impressive comments. I say “libertarian” only because libertarianism fits the no tax revenue paradigm better than totalitarianism, which of course requires far more staffing to run. And your comments regarding heartless religionists is very appropriate, as indeed a prominent feature of Calvinism is the expectation of the faithful that they shall receive their reward first here below, not needing to wait to ascend to heaven. This reminds me of the scene in “Hard Core” where George C. Scott is explaining his Dutch Reformed theology to the fallen woman who belongs to the Church of Venus, the God of Love, by employing the acronym TULIP whose letters stand for Total depravity; Unconditional election; Limited salvation; Irresistable grace; and Perseverance of grace. The mystified pagan porn actress and hooker helping him to find his daughter replied with a stunned “and I thought I was fucked up”. Scott was explaining the current overarching mentality of the relilgious right: that not only are they saved but they must be rewarded here and now for their virtue.

  87. bubbleheadMarc December 26, 2011 at 5:59 pm #

    No, not yet. But it stands to reason that turds burn better once they’ve been dried out in a solar oven. There is an incerator toilet which runs on either propane or electricity called Incinolet.

  88. bubbleheadMarc December 26, 2011 at 6:05 pm #

    They’re currently building a casino on the banks of the Cuyahoga right here in Cleveland. Everyone knows that when there’s a rain storm the sewers are overwhelmed and tons of sewage gets dumped into Lake Erie. Likewise in the spring when all the hidden dog turds get washed into the lake by the snow-melt through the storm sewers. And we drink that water! I know the contractor who last renovated the Terminal Tower and he said that he cannot believe that we’re still using sewers to handle waste when it could easily be incinerated right at home using incinolet type commodes.

  89. asoka. December 26, 2011 at 6:06 pm #

    JHK said:

    You see what happens: in the absence of the rule of law even prudent men turn to the reptile agencies of mind.

    Blood running in the streets is not the way to restore the rule of law. Hanging bankers from the lamp posts is not the way to restore rule of law.
    I am offended by the lust for violence, or as JHK says: “for some Grand Guignol action myself.”
    Violence leads to more violence, not to the re-establishment of rule of law.
    The rule of law MUST be achieved through non-violent means.
    As Gandhi said: “We must become the change we want to see.” I don’t think we want to become reptiles. We want to realize all we can as human beings with respect for all sentient beings.

  90. bubbleheadMarc December 26, 2011 at 6:11 pm #

    Spaced out the other half of your question: don’t know what it smells like. In terms of energy wasted there has to be a great deal of energy stored in human waste since each person eliminates over 400 pounds of fecal matter each year, and the waste-water plants could easily obtain vast amounts of methane gas thereby, which of course could be used for heating municipal buildings or even for generating electricity since natural gas is already used for that purpose. Army combat veterans routinely burned their shit so you’d have to ask someone answering to that description. I was in the navy where we always had flush toilets. After blowing sanitary tanks on a submarine the excess pressure is vented INBOARD and smells like rotten eggs. The tanks could not be blown overboard entirely as that would’ve left a trail of bubbles for the Russians to discover. In a similar vein our narrow custom made garbage cans were all weighted on the bottom so they’d sink to the sea floor and not be recovered by Russian spy trawlers.

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  91. k-dog December 26, 2011 at 6:23 pm #

    My comments on this weeks CFN article:
    Henry Kravis wouldn’t feed unemployed elves any reindeer steaks. Reindeer steaks are reserved for those who serve at his feet. Henry being a wolf prefers the taste of human flesh and likes it best corn fed. Unemployed elves will have to make do with cheese puffs and nachos. The groaning of ice on their frozen lake will get louder as the plastic buys fewer and fewer nachos but the ice will hold as long as the plastic works.
    Trying to make people understand how the modern financial system does not serve them is hard to do. Perhaps explaining this rinse and repeat loan cycle as [ $ 600 billion / (US POPULATION) = ] $ 1917.89 for every person in the country might give a hint at the madness.
    Truth has always been an elusive thing in any demographic slice but when the allure of a toxic aristocracy of mega-wealth and privilege are the very demigods of those acquainted with thinking then rape of the land by brigands wearing suits should come as no surprise. The fast food education of those acquainted with thinking in America lacks the depth to prevent the destruction of the rule of law. Vigilance and the knowledge that the greatest threats come from within is needed for that. The allure of the fourth wall has made marshmallows of us all; there are no longer souls to sell. They were all consumed long ago.
    So now with no frontiers to flee to and the land consumed by rot a last chance to save America appears. This solution is nothing more than the simple truth of telling the truth about ourselves to ourselves but that’s a hard thing to do with the narcotic spectacle feeding on your soul.

  92. metuselah December 26, 2011 at 6:33 pm #

    Correct. Physical violence in this situation will just play to their hands. Best to just democratically disenfranchise their institutions of power and control through the personal choice of ending all patronage to their institutions.

  93. Vlad Krandz December 26, 2011 at 6:35 pm #

    Black people wont respond with grace and dignity, I think that much is clear.

  94. Widespreadpanic7 December 26, 2011 at 6:37 pm #

    Another BIG SHOPPING DAY in the mall west of Hartford, Tens of thousands of happy shoppers descending upon the place seeking bargains, not one single parking space available, police brought in to control the traffic and the mob, making this the BEST CHRISTMAS SEASON EVER, with spending up, year over year, at least 6%!!!
    –WSP7

  95. ofthehands.com December 26, 2011 at 6:39 pm #

    One of the things I like most about farming is the winter break. I’m living on the vegetable CSA farm I worked on this year and all of us there are simply kicking around, relaxing, loving the calm that now permeates, and reflecting on the crazy year we just had. Granted, the head farmer is doing it a bit more than me–I continue to work part time at a farm down the road, with animals, which demand perhaps more attention in the winter than the summer. I’m also blogging at a decent clip, now that I have time to think and write. But overall, it’s a much more relaxed stretch than the summer.
    The nice thing about this time of year when your work actually ties you to the seasons is that you naturally reflect. The longer nights, the colder temps and the relaxed work load allows for and encourages it and you get a chance to think back on what you did during the year in a way you can’t while you’re doing it. I think this is crucial for figuring out what the hell you’re doing with your life and gaining insight into what worked, what went wrong, and in what ways you psychologically and emotionally screwed yourself over.
    It seems to me that this lack of a time for reflection amongst the general populace contributes to the inability to see what’s going on–and the generally craziness with which people search out distraction and comforting stories. When you work a job that has no ties to the natural cycles of the world and never gives you down time, it’s hard to get a handle on your life. You simply need the time to let your mind work through natural thought cycles.
    If anything, this is the time of year that can happen for a lot of people. Of course, it proves far too distracting most of the time, laden down with hyper-consumerism, the dealings with family (whether you like it or not) and the many holiday activities that most people experience. But I found even when I worked retail and before I found a new kind of life through farming that right around the new year, I had a chance for some honest reflection. It wasn’t anything as good as what I can do now in the winter, but it was helpful.
    My point, then, is that I wonder if others have the same experience and if the dawning of 2012 may sink heavy into the collective psyche. Will people take a few moments to look at what is going on in the world around them? Even if they don’t get all the underlying realities of it, I think everyone’s pretty tapped into the understanding that something is terribly wrong. You just had John Michael Greer on the KunstlerCast–I do wonder if he’s right in thinking that a good chunk of the population may start seizing onto the idea of 2012 apocalypse as they try to deal with that understanding of something being awry. Throw that in with the likelihood of financial chaos in the EU, the certainty that it would then have its reverberations here, and a bitter presidential contest and there could be some serious social upheaval this year.
    I don’t believe in the idea of a 2012 apocalypse, but I wonder how many might get on board as the new year marches on. We’ll see what happens. I don’t think it’s going to be a smooth ride, however it plays out.

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  96. Widespreadpanic7 December 26, 2011 at 6:40 pm #

    Hey Asoka you’re in some unnamed Banana Republic reclining on a hammock and eating Mangoes, what do you care what Jim Says?
    –WSP7

  97. Widespreadpanic7 December 26, 2011 at 6:45 pm #

    Meanwhile bombs are popping off in Iraq like cherry bombs on the 4th of July. US forces have been out for only 1 week. No, we haven’t heard the last of that place yet.
    –WSP7

  98. JulettaofOhio December 26, 2011 at 6:51 pm #

    Lot more Ohioans than I realized on this site. I won’t drink the water in Toledo either, but we’re from Grand Lake Saint Mary area and you can’t let your kids or dogs near the lake water because it will kill them. This is a good time to be a bottled water distributor. We have well water which tastes nasty but is potable. It also keeps my almost white hair blond and has tinted my shower and our underclothes a pale peach, not a color I was trying for.
    Gas here is 3.39 per gallon everywhere except Sam’s, where it’s 3.19. My husband got tools for Christmas and I got a new canner and canning jars which doesn’t sound romantic but were just what I wanted.
    Christmas was allegedly big in our area, but I can’t imagine how. Ohio didn’t score at the top of the tax burden index, but don’t know why not, except that the study only counted Federal and State, not the School District Income Tax, Village Income Tax, Dog License Fees (Tax, only they won’t call it that and you can’t deduct fees) the Environmental Tax and River Clean-Up Taxes. I figured out that between all the taxes, including gas tax and sales tax, we pay out right at 70% of our income in taxes, but at least we’re working. So many aren’t. People around here are scared, and frightened people can do strange things. I don’t feel like wishing anyone a Happy New Year, so about wishing you a Bearable New Year that is Survivable??? Consider yourself “Wished”!

  99. Widespreadpanic7 December 26, 2011 at 7:19 pm #

    In Nigeria a Muslim group is engaging in some interfaith dialogue by blowing up churches on Christmas Eve. I was surprised to see it reported on by some major media companies here. Usually this is the kind of story you have to find out about by listening to BBC. Maybe it was just to egregious to ignore or cover up. Of course if its Christians attacking a Mosque that’s front page news, without question.
    –WSP7

  100. progress2conserve December 26, 2011 at 7:24 pm #

    Nice week’s work, JHK. And this is something that’s been baffling me lately, too:
    “I suppose what baffles many of us in the ethers of bloggery is the apparent failure of that demographic slice acquainted with thinking to register any objection to the travesties and organized brigandages of these times. At any other time in the life of this republic, such folk with active frontal lobes would have identified arrant criminal activity for what it is.” -JHK-
    Yeah, JHK, I feel your pain. Here we are on one of the most diverse and unregulated “peak everything” websites to be found on the world wide web. There are some deep thinkers to be found here, besides JHK, our host. And, anyone who pays attention, will learn new things, and ways of thinking, on CFN – every week.
    Yet – it appears that many of us are just here, hanging out, thinking out loud, and preaching to our own individual choirs.
    There IS power in group action. The internet should be ALL about group action. But rarely does anyone HERE suggest a website for group action – of the sort that could make a difference – something on the order of “The JHK for President – Website!”
    I’ll suggest two websites, both of which need financial support and active volunteers. Because the theme that the US will never stop demanding “OUR SHARE!” of world resources – is the big problem for the Planet. And there is absolutely NO WAY that WE, INSIDE the US will reduce our impact on the planet – without first reducing our population growth rate, which is largely due to LEGAL immigrants, and their first generation children.
    NumbersUSA
    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/
    Federal Association for Immigration Reform
    http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer
    Because human overpopulation is the answer to every question – about a better future.
    And the place to start working for change, is where we live, in the United States.
    And as always, I wait for any thinking poster to show me where I am wrong.
    Without recourse to one of the following as a justification for the CONSEQUENCES:
    1. Economic growth always good for the US.
    2. Moral platitudes – “we are all immigrants.”
    3. Ethnic dining and entertainment.

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  101. anti soak December 26, 2011 at 7:24 pm #

    Didya see the news at Yahoo of the 20 something who bought a nearly 100? million dollar apartment.
    When she visits NYC she wants a nice place to stay.
    Her dads Mafya I guess [Rusky Billionaire].

  102. anti soak December 26, 2011 at 7:28 pm #

    and Detroit, Casinos for Detroit!

  103. progress2conserve December 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm #

    That’s good stuff, Bill of Boston.
    Here’s my favorite:
    “5. The biggest scandal in the Catholic Church’s history ensues when it’s discovered that Pope Benedict was born to a Jewish couple who put him up for adoption, and thus gives new meaning to the question, “Is the Pope Catholic?” -btb-
    Did you make that whole post up?
    Magnificent stuff!

  104. asoka. December 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm #

    I care, therefore I post.
    My family is involved. That would be the human family.
    From the comfort of my hammock, sipping fresh mango juice, I care. It is the human thing to do, at least for me, to want to lessen violence and bloodshed.
    What JHK is talking about is summary execution with no due process for bankers who have stolen money electronically.
    I do not believe in the death penalty for theft of worthless fiat money.

  105. Widespreadpanic7 December 26, 2011 at 7:31 pm #

    I received Col. William Brophy’s book about the Marlin Firearms Company for Christmas. I’ve been wanting that book for years but have never seen in listed for less than $125.00, which I figured was too much to pay for a book. My wife got it for $49.00 on Amazon.
    How does Amazon do it? Maybe this is one of the reasons Borders went out of business this year.
    –WSP7

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  106. k-dog December 26, 2011 at 7:38 pm #

    Apparently, the nostrums of Paul Krugman are as powerfully narcotic as the raptures of Nascar.

    That may be true but here is one nostrum that can be sucked up a nostril without harm.
    With everything else that has been going on in U.S. politics recently, the G.O.P.’s radical anti-environmental turn hasn’t gotten the attention it deserves.
    It is important to know which dogs support the pack and which do not. Any G.O.P. dog won’t support the people but a S.C.P. dog will.
    k-dog for president.

    k-dog the Sustainable Canine Party choice

  107. asoka. December 26, 2011 at 7:45 pm #

    It seems to me fighting the good fight is learning how to live in the moment as best as one can while simultaneously keeping an eye on the horizon.
    ==============
    Great comment, Buck Stud. And it works… for everyone. No one need be hanged from the lamp post. We need not give in to base instincts to take out our feelings of frustration on others.
    Living well, fully enjoying each moment in the present, is the best revenge.

  108. asoka. December 26, 2011 at 7:54 pm #

    But rarely does anyone HERE suggest a website for group action – of the sort that could make a difference
    ============
    This is just so untrue it is ludicrous. Maybe you are not paying attention if you have not seen positive programs for change being proposed by many posters. You may judge them to not be “realistic” or to not be to your liking, but you cannot say CFNers are not proposing positive action for real change.
    ————–
    http://www.jillstein.org/
    Jill Stein for President

  109. asoka. December 26, 2011 at 7:59 pm #

    But rarely does anyone HERE
    ————
    And before you get on the WSP7 bandwagon of why should I care since I’m not in the USA.
    HERE is the planet Earth. Our problems are global. Environmental degradation, peak everything, overpopulation, extreme poverty, nuclear proliferation… these are problems WHICH DO NOT RESPECT NATIONAL BORDERS.
    ProCon, you have every right to have your pet issue and to recommend websites.
    But I think your harping on immigration into the USA every week, week after week, is a waste of band width.
    Our most serious problems related to human survival are not national in nature.

  110. DeeJones December 26, 2011 at 7:59 pm #

    “To be blunt you are no moral superior, you are responsible for the liberal welfare state and we decent people might survive our bankster thieves, but you literally cannot outrun a low IQ mob newly equipped with Air Jordans, so thank you for being part of the destructive force that has done its part to ruin America.
    And a note to you “nice” white liberals, the gig is up.”
    I really don’t see the difference between the so-called “liberal welfare state” and the Conservative Military Industrial/Prison welfare state….
    Oh, wait a minute, now I see it, instead of the governments money going to help POOR people, it just goes to make rich people wealthier.
    Do YOU really see this as a much better use of the PEOPLES money? Transferring it to the corporations and already wealthy?
    Thanks CONSERVATIVE, RIGHT-WINGERS for “…being part of the destructive force that has done its part to ruin America.” You sure have done a great job of it, and the best part? You have actually convinced stoopid, dumb americans that it was all the Liberals doing.
    “And a note to you “nice” white Conservatives, the gig is up.”
    There, thats better
    😉

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  111. BeantownBill December 26, 2011 at 8:12 pm #

    “Yet – it appears that many of us are just here, hanging out, thinking out loud, and preaching to our own individual choirs.”
    Yeah, I agree with you. That’s why I keep saying for us to stop complaining and start trying to do something about our mess. Maybe the problem is that, after living in a welfare state for so long, we’ve forgotten how to take action.
    BTW, I did make up my prediction list. I have this perverse character trait that in solumn times – as during Christmas and New Year’s – I tend to become silly. Life is too short and wildly, wackily weird to be taken too seriously.

  112. ozone December 26, 2011 at 8:12 pm #

    “At the risk of preaching to the choir, a brief housekeeping note for the rest of CFN: If you want to understand my beliefs, thought processes, and so forth, read what I’ve written. Don’t listen to this petulant, turd-hurling buffoon.” -AMR
    To the first: I attempt that.
    To the second: I don’t.
    (I am of the opinion that the laddie spends most of his misbegotten life in “the projection booth”, so there’s really no need to engage with the 2-dimensional screen.)

  113. scott December 26, 2011 at 8:19 pm #

    OK, heres a forecast with a high probability rate. Since electricity bills have gone up higher than the inflation rate for 5 years in a row, I predict that electricity bills will exceed the inflation rate in 2012.
    Wait, what if inflation goes up so fast that utilities can’t keep up and weather patterns are moderate? Oh yeah, utilities want to get paid like unionized government(public sector) workers, there is no way they will allow losses. Weather patterns moderate? I predict that weather patterns will not be cycling back to moderate in 2012.

  114. ozone December 26, 2011 at 8:21 pm #

    “I dont blame the Central Bankers, at least they are technocrats unlike corrupt politicians. They are managing a decline fairly well despite the crappy hands being steadily dealt to them by corrupt politicians.” -scott
    Really? (The propaganda must be working as planned. “No banker left behind.”)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxaY_mxYflg

  115. Buck Stud December 26, 2011 at 8:25 pm #

    Met,
    Specifically, why is this approach misguided? And I don’t see it as burying one’s head in the sand so much as learning how to create and access stability within one’s self. When times get really tough and the future appears dire, indeed, when things look to be spinning out of control, I think it is very strategic to be able to “go inside” and slow down one’s mind despite external turbulence.
    I am not advocating whistling past the graveyard; I am saying the graveyard remains whether we whistle or not. With that in mind, some of the aware will choose to whistle anyway because it’s a bummer always being bummed out.

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  116. rippedthunder December 26, 2011 at 8:25 pm #

    “The Times They Aren’t a Changin” (B. Dylan)
    I just came back from a little jaunt up I-91 to a belated holiday get together on the Ma/ NH border at my sisters house. I was speeding along in my Hyundai 4 popper with the cruise set at 60 mph. The Sport Utility Monsters loaded with skis and assorted crap were blowing me away at like 80-85 mph. “Gotta get to the hills before the man-made snow melts ya know”. I suppose with Global warming they could just cover the slopes with recycled plastic shards and ski all year. Tis the season. Nothing has changed!

  117. Shakazulu December 26, 2011 at 8:26 pm #

    Following BTB’s lead, here are my top ten predictions for 2012.
    1. There will be at least one week next year where Obama and his wife will NOT be on vacation.
    2. It will be revealed that Ron Paul is a former Nazi concentration camp guard notoriously known as “Karl the Kraut.”
    3. Iran will drop a homemade nuclear bomb on Tel Aviv, thereby removing all doubt that the U.S. Press is capable of lying.
    4. Kunstler will publish a “positive” blog entry, enumerating all that is good with America.
    5. Mexican drug dealers, while burying the dead bodies of rival gang members, will discover the Mayan Calendar for 2013-2112, showing the end of the world is a hundred years away.
    6. Unemployment benefits will be extended “to infinity and beyond.”
    7. Vlad will join the NAACP.
    8. The Republican Presidential candidate will nominate Sarah Palin for VP.
    9. The World Court will seek war reparations from the Rothschild Family for WWI and WWII, which will be paid in gold bullion from their many hidden vaults.
    10. Someone will predict the end of the world.

  118. progress2conserve December 26, 2011 at 8:27 pm #

    “Environmental degradation, peak everything, overpopulation, extreme poverty, nuclear proliferation… these are problems WHICH DO NOT RESPECT NATIONAL BORDERS.”
    -asoka-
    I disagree with you asoka., as I may have mentioned once or twice on CFN. The problems may not stop at borders, but the SOLUTIONS TO THESE PROBLEMS ARE LOCAL, REGIONAL, AND THEN NATIONAL – WITHIN THE UNITED STATES!! (especially, for US residents)
    To pretend that abolition of border enforcement in the US will make these problems less severe is ludicrous – no, it’s worse than ludicrous – it’s an EVIL way to avoid personal responsibility, and for YOU to have your high-minded cake while you gobble it down.
    ——————————–
    More importantly, for this website, asoka. – your begging and apologizing for high incoming US immigration may be blocking some thoughtful poster from actually THINKING AND RESPONDING WITH HIS OR HER OWN THOUGHTS.
    Why should any Politically Correct Liberal Thinker form his own thoughts and type them into this content thread – when asoka.. speaks the PC platform on CFN so effusively – every single week??????
    ======================
    So again, anyone OTHER than asoka. – want to tell us why the US has to have our current high level of incoming immigration?
    No recourse in your arguments to:
    1. Economic growth
    2. Moral platitudes
    3. Ethnic entertainment/dining
    -please
    So far – only silence, crickets and tumbleweeds on CFN, argue for today’s presently liberal immigration quotas –
    Speak, ye Politically Correct and Pro-Immigration Voices of CFN and the open internet – SPEAK!
    Don’t let asoka be the only pro-US-immigration poster on the entire CFN thread, week after week.
    We are waiting.

  119. BeantownBill December 26, 2011 at 8:33 pm #

    Amazon’s overhead is much lower than retailers who rent store space. And Amazon operates on a low, 5 or 6% profit margin. But its days are numbered because one of their main advantages is not having to charge customers a sales tax, unlike physical, retail store chains, as the company is totally internet-driven.
    The state of California is either proposing, or has put into law – I don’t know which – a state sales tax on internet purchases, which Amazon is vehently opposing.
    If the internet sales tax is, or becomes true, it only will be a matter of time before the rest of the states follow suit. Then Amazon’s profit margin goes minimal or to zero, unless they raise their prices considerably, and that wipes out any real advantage they have over retail chains.

  120. Buck Stud December 26, 2011 at 8:37 pm #

    “The very act of chipping enlarges one.”
    That’s a very interesting comment, or at least on the level of reductive sculpture . Paradoxically, a block of material appears more volumetric the more form is defined via material removal. And that is even more true for those who carve direct, i.e., without pointing up and reproducing a scaled down model in plaster in the manner of Beaux Arts methodology. Look no further than the sculpture of Henry Moore to visually confirm your statement.

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  121. progress2conserve December 26, 2011 at 8:42 pm #

    “Yeah, I agree with you. That’s why I keep saying for us to stop complaining and start trying to do something about our mess.”
    -btb-
    Bill, I’m trying. I keep pointing out what is THE most important US/Global issue, and I keep pointing out a couple of groups that are trying to work on solutions.
    You got a more important issue or a better solution, Bill? I’m all eyes, ears, and fingers, here.

  122. scott December 26, 2011 at 8:42 pm #

    Yeah, everbody likes to crack on the Bernankster for all our financial problems. I like Austrian economics as much as anyone, except we don’t have free markets or any of the things that Libertarians typically pontificate about. We have centrally planned top down everything, the furthest thing from sound money, “economics as a science” as you can get.
    Just look at healthcare, there is at least one hospital everywhere in the U.S. including every rural area. Practically none of which could exist without Fed funding. The tentacles are stretched wide. Our government, or any government couldn’t have grown anywhere near it’s immense size without a compliant citizenry. Our compliance was our capitulation to social welfare programs specifically SSI.

  123. ABSALOM December 26, 2011 at 8:48 pm #

    The problems may not stop at borders, but the SOLUTIONS TO THESE PROBLEMS ARE LOCAL, REGIONAL, AND THEN NATIONAL – WITHIN THE UNITED STATES!! (especially, for US residents)
    =============================================
    WRONG! The fact is that unless the global monetary system is discarded altogether — NOTHING changes. And yes I realize that lofty idealism is a long shot at best. However, The way all these governments print and launder money is a global disaster with local, regional, and national and global consequences, period. Championing a single issue makes about as much sense as pissing in the wind. You two clowns epitomize the futility of Right VS Left thinking. HOPELESS.
    We’re way beyond sticking fingers in the damn.
    ABSALOM

  124. Buck Stud December 26, 2011 at 8:53 pm #

    It’s very hard. I think the value of meditation, or at least for me, is the demand for focus and concentration. To be able to continually follow the breath without spacing out or becoming distracted is no easy accomplishment. A very good instructor of meditation asserts that first one must become aware of “the countdown to distraction” before moving beyond the tendency to space out.
    It’s a very interesting thing to do, allowing oneself the space to monitor the mechanics of spacing out.

  125. metuselah December 26, 2011 at 8:55 pm #

    Specifically, why is this approach misguided?
    ==
    Because it tries to avoid responsibility. And it’s a moral cop-out. It also makes the problem(s) more and more “insurmountable”, both psychologically and in actual fact.

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  126. metuselah December 26, 2011 at 9:00 pm #

    when fear of death is conquered does living a life become possible
    ==
    When fear of death is conquered you become a slovenly sloth.

  127. ABSALOM December 26, 2011 at 9:03 pm #

    I keep thinking about a distinction made by Chris Martenson in Unfixable: There’s a difference between a problem and a predicament. Problems have solutions. Predicaments have OUTCOMES. We’re in a predicament, folks. What, nobody tells the truth here anymore? WE’VE ALREADY JUMPED OFF THE CLIFF. It’s time to focus on the landing. Tuck and roll, or belly flop?
    If’n 2012 is the year the dollar collapses, nobody knows for sure, the only question worth asking is how our communities will either organize or demolish themselves. Nobody knows the answer to that question either, but yer welcome to speculate.
    ABSALOM

  128. Buck Stud December 26, 2011 at 9:11 pm #

    If I am reading you right you seem to equate “living in the moment” with shirking responsibility or an unwillingness to look ahead or search the past. I am trying to equate living in the moment with mental clarity, unencumbered by a million and one ego-projections, distortions, and outright denial that clouds the vision. If a person can’t live in the here and now with clarity the magicians will steal you blind, nevermind trying to read the past or future.

  129. Buck Stud December 26, 2011 at 9:16 pm #

    ” When fear of death is conquered you become a slovenly sloth.”
    That may be true for those living in fear of a retributive God, but in reality far more people are paralyzed by fear. Remove the fear and people start moving…and taking acting.

  130. metuselah December 26, 2011 at 9:18 pm #

    I understand what you’re saying. I also think you’ve moved the goalposts. Your first “definition” of ‘living in the moment’ pretty much agreed with my understanding and the general understanding of the term. But you have since revised your “definition”. Given your revised “definition”, I’m inclined to agree with you, though I can’t see how both the original and the revised “definition” can be compatible.

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  131. metuselah December 26, 2011 at 9:20 pm #

    but in reality far more people are paralyzed by fear
    ==
    Not me. But I suppose everyone’s different. 😀

  132. ABSALOM December 26, 2011 at 9:24 pm #

    Whether you like technology or not, humans are already obsolete in a system governed by money and made hyper efficient with technology. So is the answer to abandon technology? I have no desire to become Amish.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDJ18m6KUW4&feature=related

  133. anti soak December 26, 2011 at 9:25 pm #

    NEWS..FLASH MOB CHASES DEE TO CENTRAL AMERICA!
    Widespreadpanic7………..Ya didnt see my post in last weeks thread on the App that will maybe put most Retail [outside of food n gas] out of business?
    It scans barcode in store, then ya order at amazon, from amazon.
    Abs, I like Diamonds writing but the one star reviews at Amazon [no plug intended] use critical thinking to rip his thesis to shreds.
    Vlad, ya see my post on Jared Diamond and DNA?
    ha vlad ya weasel.

  134. progress2conserve December 26, 2011 at 9:26 pm #

    PRD asks a very good question – for a “peak everything” blog, like CFN:
    “Anybody see the videos from the new Michael Jordan tennis shoe riots? Hoo boy. Answers the question “will crowds of people react with grace, dignity, and cooperation if (when) the food/gas/water gets low?”
    And ANYBODY AT ALL – who bothers to read JHK – should give serious thought to the question.
    And should give a serious answer for himself, or herself, and for his family. It’s an important question. And some of the answers are not, necessarily, at all positive. And MANY, almost all, of these answers do not involve a clear black/white/brown/racial demarcation – for any THINKING person.
    However, Vlad has short-circuited the thinking process for us, with a pat, and racist, answer:
    “Black people won’t respond with grace and dignity, I think that much is clear.” -vlad-
    ===========================
    Thus does Vlad, intentionally or unintentionally, BUT more-or-less-single-handedly sidetrack the CFN conversation into divisive racial issues for the week between Christmas and the New Year.
    Once. Again? That’s unfortunate.

  135. progress2conserve December 26, 2011 at 9:50 pm #

    “Championing a single issue makes about as much sense as pissing in the wind. You two clowns epitomize the futility of Right VS Left thinking. HOPELESS.”
    First, absalom – which two clowns?
    Asoka and me? You’ve got to be kidding.
    I’ve been trying for a year and a half to get asoka. to stop yammering on about immigration and open borders – just for long enough to let somebody else – anybody else – speak his or her mind on CFN.
    Beyond that, absalom, do you have a BETTER single issue that would put the United States onto a lower growth trajectory?
    For the good of the rest of the world?
    ================================================
    There are 300,000,000 United States residents. If enough of us engaged the political process and started making phone calls and writing letters – then the US immigration quotas would be changed, almost overnight.
    But, if we engage to demand that “the global monetary system is discarded altogether,” in the words of Absalom –
    You’re right, abs, that’s impossible.
    Immigration reduction is a vague possibility.
    And the only hope.
    Seriously, do you have a better idea, and a way to try to get it implemented.
    Seriously? Because I’m ready to start joining, making donations, and writing letters and making phone calls to Those Powers That Be – inside of the United States – where I have a voice, and a small chance to impact policy.
    Anything practical, absalom?
    The world waits.

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  136. Liquid Lennny December 26, 2011 at 10:06 pm #

    ABSALOM,
    Thanks for your reasoned, thoughtful and considerate response.
    I’m in agreement with you. The answer is about all about having capable and competent people who aren’t afraid to get their hands dirty. Where it’s not about having the most “stuff” but having the most “us” and being able to give that away while understanding that the process of doing so does not diminish our worth but rather increases it.
    All the labeling of the -isms has been manipulated to obscure the darkest side of capitalism. There’s a lot of ideas out there that merit consideration and we could certainly improve on what we’ve currently got at the moment. In the end, our democracy will be stronger for it. Hopefully the new year will see the emergence of a honest dialouge of what we are and where do we want to go. But then I’m an eternal optimist. It wouldn’t surprise me to see an “occupy-spring” coming soon near you/us. Could be a more intense version of 1968 – Chicago style.
    You know, never a bad idea to do an ammo count, just in case…
    As for me maybe the box is getting tighter but I’m pretty good when it comes to spatial concerns and the occasional but necessary mental furniture renovation.
    A wiser man than me said; “Your enemy holds the lens by which you are most likey to see your true self, don’t be surprised if you don’t like what you see.” Makes me think, the U.S. has such an enormous military budget we must have a lot of enemies in the world. Maybe for once we need to take a look thru their lens…
    I know, the chances of that are slim to zero.
    I got to check the link you posted, thanks in advance.
    Have a safe New Year, see you on the other side!
    Stay Liquid, stay Frosty

  137. ABSALOM December 26, 2011 at 10:08 pm #

    A-SOAK wrote:
    Abs, I like Diamonds writing but the one star reviews at Amazon [no plug intended] use critical thinking to rip his thesis to shreds.
    =============================================
    What a joke. I had a feeling that’s how you made up your mind about the book. Well, for G,G&ST, on Amazon’s Hardcover listing, there are over 1,200 customer reviews. The OVERWHELMING majority are favorable and concurrent with emphasis on areas that deserve further inquiry. It’s worth mentioning that there are numerable other works out there that improve upon and address the given weaknesses of Diamond’s theses.
    That you sifted through other peoples criticisms to form your opinion leaves me deeply embarrassed for you, yet ever reassured that this country is WHOLLY fucked. Literacy in the U.S. now means reading what someone else said about a book you never bothered to read, then claiming those opinions as your own. This is why several people on this blog are nothing more than ventriloquist’s dummies, allowing any stranger to come along and shove a hand up it’s ass so it can mutter a sentence, or type one as it were.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRQvK2-iqQ
    ABSALOM

  138. progress2conserve December 26, 2011 at 10:23 pm #

    From the JD paper that you posted, “The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race:”
    “At this point it’s instructive to recall the common complaint that archaeology is a luxury, concerned with the remote past, and offering no lessons for the present. Archaeologists studying the rise of farming have reconstructed a crucial stage at which we made the worst mistake in human history. Forced to choose between limiting population or trying to increase food production, we chose the latter and ended up with starvation, warfare, and tyranny.”
    -diamond-
    Diamond is correct, absalom. I propose to begin to fix this mistake by reducing population growth in the only place that you and I have ANY CONTROL WHATSOEVER – that being, inside the United States.
    If you’re not willing to stand with me – you need to explain why.

  139. ABSALOM December 26, 2011 at 10:25 pm #

    Lenny, I hear you on the ammo count. What I’m really wondering is: how best to stack dead Liberal and Conservative sandbags ’round my foxhole(they ain’t good for nuthin’ else), to return fire from whichever direction necessary.
    Viva la Revolucion!
    ABSALOM

  140. Eleuthero December 26, 2011 at 10:57 pm #

    AE said:
    Deflation, which is precisely what we’re experiencing now with record low bond yields, is also a transfer of wealth from debtors to creditors.
    **********************************************
    Actually, what’s alarming is that we have NOT had deflation. That’s why my I-Bonds have been getting a 3.6% inflation premium on top of their 2-2.5% coupon.
    In the back half of this decade when all the walking-dead businesses really ARE dead and when the housing inventory normalizes, the Fed will not be able to sop up all the money chasing fewer and fewer goods and inflation will NOT be benign.
    Also, inflation is hurting worse PRECISELY where the common man feels it most: healthcare, food, and energy. Net-net the common man sees no “deflation” at all.
    I do not quibble with the idea that money is “notional” and I absolutely agree that as they print more and more and more … the rich and the crooked are having their best boom years maybe in the last generation.
    E.

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  141. Boris December 26, 2011 at 11:22 pm #

    3rd, bravo!

  142. anti soak December 26, 2011 at 11:38 pm #

    GEMS FORM THE WEB:
    On Jared Daimond:
    ‘Furthermore, while Diamond frequently and gratingly congratulates himself for “exploding racist theories” of history every chance he gets, he constantly injects bits of whimsy which can only be attributed to viewing one ethnic group as being inherently superior/inferior to another. He has said that people in New Guinea are actually more inherently intelligent than Westerners, for example.
    Much as the predictors (like Ehrlich) of environmental and demographic collapse have been wrong very nearly 100% of the time, so too has the theory of GD been completely discredited in the eyes of science. There are several books the content of which, at this point, have basically put the theory of GD onto the ash heap of history. The best and most complete deconstruction of this theory is Hanson’s book “Carnage and Culture”. Hanson very carefully points out that the dominance of one culture cannot be explained by racial differences or diseases or timing of domestication of animals. In his book, Hanson definitively proves that it is culture and certain cultural values, not geography, or racial differences, or foodstuffs, or disease, which determine the success or failure of one civilization pitted against another. His book is the antidote for the poison of Diamond’s new age hippy-dippy “desire masquerading as science”. ‘
    UK:
    [THIS I FIND ALARMING BUT DO NOT BE SURPRISED]:
    ‘I spent 6 months living in the UK in 2011. Even then, I thought their laws were over the top, but so did many of the 20-somethings I met. In the same year, they released the two boys who brutally murdered and sodomized a toddler while arresting a grade schooler for saying ‘stupid paki’ after he was pulled out of a fight with a Pakistani. It always stuck in my mind the juxtaposition of what was criminal. The college kids cringed at the thought of a fellow student being one of those murderers, but they also were extremely careful not to speak out against ‘asylum seekers’ for fear of trouble with the law and school. Their political leaders are completely divorced from mainstream values. “Enoch was Right” should be a street art propaganda theme.
    Sadly, this is somewhat present in the US where people are jailed for spanking their kids or ticketed for not wearing a helmet while riding a bike while a rapist or murderer can plea down a crime to get less than 10 years in jail’
    [AH THE ANTI FAMILY CAMPAIGN OF THE LIBS…
    BUCHANANS WRITTEN ABOUT].
    CHEERS

  143. anti soak December 26, 2011 at 11:39 pm #

    OOPS..I meant ‘from’ but forms good as well.

  144. anti soak December 26, 2011 at 11:40 pm #

    ‘That you sifted through other peoples criticisms to form your opinion leaves me deeply embarrassed for you, yet ever reassured that this country is WHOLLY fucked. Literacy in the U.S. now means reading what someone else said about a book you never bothered to read’
    No I read the books………….

  145. progress2conserve December 27, 2011 at 12:01 am #

    The possible intentions of the original Framers of the US Constitution – percolate as important ideas – in the background on CFN, and in many political discussions inside the United
    States.
    So I’ll throw this web article out there, just for the, unusual, perspective that the Founding Fathers were no more perfect than today’s politicians. (WHOA, Man – let’s be afraid!)
    http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2011/12/22/did-our-founding-fathers-believe-in-free-markets.aspx
    Comments may be very interesting to CFN followers and posters. JHK has been sounding off on economic collapse for several continuous weeks, now. I’m more comfortable with his “believability?,” when he’s discussing environmental collapse – but maybe that’s just me.
    Motley Fool is a good counterpoint to CFN. Comments are more moderated there, but not a whole lot more moderated. And the readers/commenters on MF tend to be those who “believe” in the present economic paradigm, as it is found today – or at least those who plan to PROFIT from this paradigm.
    I don’t comment much on MF. This webspace just has a more productive give-and-take about it to me, for some reason.

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  146. progress2conserve December 27, 2011 at 12:02 am #

    Hey Abs,
    I wanted to be sure you saw my 9:50 and 10:23 posts.
    Sometimes posts cross and things get missed.
    Waiting on you.
    Vital concepts, you’ve got to admit.
    -p2c-

  147. rippedthunder December 27, 2011 at 12:07 am #

    army, natural gas from the Marcellus Gas formations are our salvation in the USE US of A. We have 150 years left of fossil fuel energy. Fuck Appalachia. I want my MTV!!!

  148. rippedthunder December 27, 2011 at 12:17 am #

    Santa brought me gunsmithing tools and Blacksmithing tools. Plus warm socks for standin’ in the barn. I picked them out myself so I was not surprised on Christmas morning.! Bummer! made in the USA also. Sorry Mao!

  149. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 1:08 am #

    P2C wrote:
    I propose to begin to fix this mistake by reducing population growth in the only place that you and I have ANY CONTROL WHATSOEVER – that being, inside the United States.
    =============================================
    I have a sneaking suspicion world governments think about population CONTROL too, but in more sinister and cynical ways.
    There’s been a convenient resurgence of manmade super virus talk in the media lately; my paranoid self wondered if maybe it was code speak between TPTB to get ready to disseminate anti-virals to ONLY the people THEY wish to survive.
    Joking aside, let’s say I do agree about the need to CONTROL population. Closing the borders is easy, costly, but also simple minded. More to the point, how then do you propose to convince ALL the Michelle Duggars’, Shaquanda Jenkins’, and Lupita Sanchez’s of the world that the vagina ISN’T a stretch limousine full of God’s little miracles? How do you ENFORCE values of birth control, abstinence, and environmentalism on ANY population? Do you accomplish this through National Pride, Totalitarianism, Fascism or ANY of the UGLY siblings? You’ve opened a whole can of worms here, Prog. You need to get outside the box on this one.
    There are a host of reasons why people recklessly produce more kids than a finite planet can sustain. These are the most fundamental: to pass on ones’ genes, to cope with scarcity, to feel love. The first (Gene preservation) has to do with innate biological drives of sexual selection (evolution). The second (scarcity) has to do with the idea that there is safety in numbers when acquiring and securing food, as it’s time consuming and labor intensive especially for agrarians. The third (Love) relates to the former two in a world where fear of abandonment and death drives behavior.
    Biology is a rich science that teaches humans how they are similar but different to other creatures of instinct. Scarcity is faced with how well humans harness the power of the mind to develop tools to produce subsistence. Love has to do with whether people FEEL that they’ve fulfilled the demands of the former.
    Learning tackles the problem of how to overcome our base instincts. Coping with scarcity, for the agrarian society importantly, demands that more laborers be born to acquire subsistence. Love is given by allowing people to develop the most healthful and beneficial ways to fill the previous two self-interests; all of these require a social structure which keeps people connected to the REAL world, not just some opinion or ideal of it.
    Experimentation provides understanding of natural forces and biological limits to overcome base instinct. Eliminating scarcity results from resourceful tools powered by reality testing. Love comes when people become self-actualized through this journey.
    The only time people are ever ALIVE, SUSTAINED, and have LOVE is when they KNOW how to survive, provide and share. No social theorist has EVER told us how to do this correctly. But every parent who ever taught their kid to build something, maintain it then share it did just this simply complex thing.
    Prog, if your proposal is genuine, we’re waiting. I’m willing to join you. “The human family — your family — needs you, and you must be properly trained. You must know how to think.” –Paul Lutus-
    http://www.arachnoid.com/levels/index.html

  150. BeantownBill December 27, 2011 at 1:14 am #

    Ab, predicaments do have solutions. The difference between problems and predicaments is a matter of choice. All problems pass in time. If one is unsolvable, it stops being a problem and becomes “just the way it is”. A predicament implies a Hobson’s choice, where multiple solutions are unpalatable.
    Regarding our current issues, they are mostly the result of rapid technological progress; we are approaching the nearly vertical slope in its curve. Such rapid change creates great stressors in any society. I, for one, think it creates great opportunities as well as great dangers. Although the Chinese may not like it, we live in interesting times.
    As our civilization’s edifices crumble under the pressure and demands of advancing technology, new social structures, mores and interpersonal relationships will be violently borne to replace the old. Hopefully, the survivors of these times will employ and embrace, not abandon, technology.

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  151. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 1:25 am #

    Um, excuse me but the best indicator of future behavoir is past and present behavior – and Black Behavior has been getting worse for decades. You must have taken a look at the crime stats even if you aren’t willing to admit it – shocking aren’t they? The whole Civil Rights Establishment – the crown Jewel of American Liberalism is a failure. You aren’t willing to talk about that yet or perhaps ever. Nor the IQ reality and their miserable failure in School. You prefer to attack instead.
    Perhaps I’d like to talk about other things but I can’t until these issues are addressed. Do you realize how unfair you are being to me? And in fact I do sometimes talk about other things – no one picked up on my Contagion post last week. No one has ever probably understood my Existentialist argument when it comes to America and American History – to criticize the very foundations of the American Conquest is to make ones whole life inauthentic as long as you are enjoying the fruits of that conquest. Strikes deep – too deep for most to even want to contemplate.
    “America was founded on racism” they bleat. So why are you still here? And show me a place that wasn’t. “We are trying to change it from within” they respond. No, you’re enjoying a consumer lifestyle and pretending to be a revolutionary. Total bullshit. The Elite got these people pegged. All the pleasures of the System including the moral superiority of being against the System. It’s enough to make the Angels weep.
    Indians once lived where you live. They didn’t want to give up their place. They were made to – and that’s why you can live there without having your skulled cleaved in twain by a tomahawk. Still feel guilty? Deal with it. If you could see that much, then you could see the Blacks for what they are. But BS begets BS, Lies ever more Lies. That’s why they wanted Public Education – to do to everyone what was done to you.

  152. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 1:36 am #

    From Cultural Values? Of course but that answers noting – just regreses the question. Where do the Values come from? From the Environment (Diamond) or from the Genotype (Krandz)?
    Golden Retrievers like to retrieve things. They do it naturaly. It’s in their genotype. They value it you see because it’s what they are.
    Blacks are hyper-sexual compared to Whites. They start sex earlier and have more of it. It’s cultural they say. Then show me a Black Culture where it isn’t so. Sure it’s cultural – because it’s genetic first. Now Traditional Black Cultures do channel it but their proclivity can still be seen compared to other Traditional Culture of Whites and Asians. It’s easier to see when they live in Non Traditional Contexts like America, and they can be compared directly to White and Asian Americans. But the hypersexuality is clearly evident in Haiti, Jamaica, Bahamas, Modern Africa and if one looks carefully – Animist and Muslim Africa as well.
    But, But, But – They have more Testosterone than Whites – both the Men and the Women. It would be strange if they weren’t more sexual in other words since they are different hormonally.

  153. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 1:37 am #

    Bill, you make much sense as usual. But I won’t ever forget that presentation from Chris Martenson regarding the exponential, unwieldy, and insoluble set of factors conspiring against our species.
    Perhaps your right. Perhaps collapse isn’t a predicament. Perhaps entropy can be thwarted, but as much as I believe in optimism, natural history’s ruins for every culture, every species ever in existence on this planet provides inescapable foresight. I have no doubt we won’t last much longer, certainly not to escape into deep space or some other sci-fi reality. But anything is possible, true?
    I like this reality. I have been lucky enough to stumble across the bright people who point out ways to prolong life, human life, but I’m not attached to a single species’ survival over another. This is narcissism. One cannot truly be spiritual and believe this way, not that I’m particularly Godly.
    Technology to me is not a be all end all, it’s merely an extension of nature, which we have been fortunate to be able to harness, however fleeting the idea is. It got us HERE, beyond hunting and gathering, beyond clubbing other monkeys that came to close to the watering hole, and it will likely kill us just the same. I do get it. We got way ahead of ourselves, too big.
    Hail the Big Electron!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cjRGee5ipM

  154. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 1:43 am #

    A heads up from Tom Tancredo: the Left is pulling out the stops to get Obama reelected. And they may try to effectively overthrow the Republic to do so. How? By letting the illegals vote. Holder wants to make the showing of ID’s illegal, a form of ethnic profiling. Why not? It’s worked up to now. The evil of this man is beyond all bounds. He must be impeached or whatever the correct word is.
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=380533

  155. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 1:52 am #

    FALLACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Fart Sniffer wrote:
    Um, excuse me but the best indicator of future behavoir is past and present behavior
    ==========================================
    Vlad, you are the dumbest motherfucker I’ve never had the offense of meeting; but like Lecter, when things do collapse, my displeasure of you will be gone for the eating. You are the the last resort of food supply. Stay marbled and tender, dumb ass. One day that cellar door will come open and my dogs will be fed.
    http://www.propagandacritic.com/articles/lf.extrapolation.html

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  156. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 2:00 am #

    The other side of the issue: New Guinea is a mountainous land of deep cut valleys. It doesn’t make for large Civilizatoins like the once fertile plains of the Middle East but small scale villages (later city states) like Ancient Greece. So the envioroment does play a part of course. (We admit that – the Enviromentalists deny ANY role to genetics). Now Diamond says and I believe correctly, that there is tremendous cultural divesity because of the relative isolation of the tribes and villages. And these different groups may be very similar genetically – near to each other they probably are. So why the big differences? A third opition – the Founder Effect. Small organizations are greatly effected by the qualities of their Founders. So why there may be some overall Quality to New Guinean Life in terms of agriculture and hunting – the differences seem greater because of the smallness of the sample. Neither Environment nor Genetics as we understandand can trace them, can adequately explain it all.
    Of course there are micro environments: no two valleys are exactly the same. And no two twins have exactly the same environment – even while still in the womb. Likewise, except for identical twins, closely related people can still vary alot genetically. In any case, in one Valley they adore Women and in the next one over they hate and fear them – and have as little hetero sex as possible. Genetics? Environment? No – someone way back had a bad experience and convinced all the other fellas to swear off of them she devils. This is how Jackie explains me.
    Forgive the lengthy double posts but I suddenly felt dissatisfied with the genetics only approach I had taken in the last post. I don’t deny environmental factors and Diamond’s books are superb in that area. But about New Guinea I think he’s wrong as I would be if I stuck to genetics. Perhaps Hansen is best here.

  157. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 2:04 am #

    You are sick scum. Get some help. Can’t believe you have trouble with what I said about the past predicting the future. Admit it – it’s the Black issue not that. You’re a Zulu Worshiper.

  158. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 2:09 am #

    None of the best biological researchers still maintain the idea that genetics are the sole determinant of behavior. You are outdated and outmatched in every sense of the words. The authority doesn’t refute you, but the evidence does.
    ABSALOM

  159. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 2:14 am #

    From the site:
    The tendency to make huge predictions about the future on the basis of a few small facts is a common logical fallacy.
    As Stuart Chase points out, “it is easy to see the persuasiveness in this type of argument. By pushing one’s case to the limit… one forces the opposition into a weaker position. The whole future is lined up against him. Driven to the defensive, he finds it hard to disprove something which has not yet happened.
    Extrapolation is what scientists call such predictions, with the warning that they must be used with caution. A homely illustration is the driver who found three gas stations per mile along a stretch of the Montreal highway in Vermont, and concluded that there must be plenty of gas all the way to the North Pole. You chart two or three points, draw a curve through them, and extend it indefinitely.”(Chase, 1952)
    This logical sleight of hand often provides the basis for an effective fear-appeal. Consider the following contemporary examples:
    If Congress passes legislation limiting the availability of automatic weapons, America will slide down a slippery slope which will ultimately result in the banning of all guns, the destruction of the Constitution, and a totalitarian police state.
    If the United States approves NAFTA, the giant sucking sound that we hear will be the sound of thousands of jobs and factories disappearing to Mexico.
    The introduction of communication tools such as the Internet will lead to a radical decentralization of government, greater political participation, and a rebirth of community.
    When a communicator attempts to convince you that a particular action will lead to disaster or to utopia, it may be helpful to ask the following questions:
    Is there enough data to support the speaker’s predictions about the future?
    Can I think of other ways that things might turn out?
    If there are many different ways that things could turn out, why is the speaker painting such an extreme picture?]]
    ABSALOM

  160. k-dog December 27, 2011 at 2:14 am #

    Is it too late to give everyone a Christmas card?
    Needless to say both Tenzin Gyatso and k-dog have issues with this fool.
    Can you guess who he is? The tape is old.

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  161. k-dog December 27, 2011 at 2:18 am #

    k-dog will reward virtue.

  162. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 2:22 am #

    Right on k-dog! Ya got my vote, and virtue is a reward in itself.
    Merry Christmas and a Happy New one
    ABSALOM

  163. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 2:48 am #

    We all owe a debt to Old South Africa: as it became clear that a Black takeover was inevitable, they dismantled their nuclear capacity and destroyed any path that would lead back to it. They knew what White Liberals do not -that the Black Africans are utterly unqualified mentally or morally to control such godlike power.

  164. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 2:49 am #

    Linked is a beautifully concise delineation of Evolutionary Theory for Ass Hats like Vlad, the Inhaler, who don’t know fuck all but the smell of their own shit, and especially for the thoughtful contributors to CFN who haven’t the time to read the history of Evolution studies or the vast array of dead end perspectives floating about the bookstores.
    http://www.arachnoid.com/evolution/index.html
    Vlad is a compendium of bullshit, but so that everyone who accidentally get tricked into giving him a blumpkin now and again stands a chance at NOT agreeing with his bogus opinions, check this piece out.
    ABSALOM

  165. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 2:50 am #

    No I admit that – YOU ALL are the ones that deny gentics play any role in the mental and cultural life of man. Fools all of you.

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  166. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 2:52 am #

    Now your just a cry baby.

  167. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 2:54 am #

    You’ve been demolished Vlad, you will never recover that stall, SNOOPS.
    OOOOWWWWWNNNNEDDD
    ABSALOM, the slave master.

  168. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 4:29 am #

    Brief White Nationalist review of the new American version of the movie Girl With a Dragon Tatoo. There’s review of the original Swedish movie too. Both are profoudly Left Wing and classics of Anti White Hate – as was the book. Sweden is portrayed as a dangerous misogynistic land where White males are running amok raping and killing women and/or Jews. The “Nazis” are just the worst of a bad breed. In reality, Sweden is a matriarchy where men are 2nd class citizens. There has been a big uptick in violence and rape -virtually all committed by the Muslim Immigrants.
    http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/12/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-the-remake/#more-21840

  169. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 4:42 am #

    What’s your point? You people “believe” in Evolution but when it comes time to apply to human beings you go limp and forget all about it.
    The basics of Darwinism which you claim to believe in: Individuals vary, the variations that foster survival will be passed on to offspring, over time in given environment, groups will form that have similar characteristics, if carried far enough and/or in isolation – sub species will form and in more time/isolation, new species will result. Polar bears emerged from Grizzlies a mere 20,000 years ago. They could probably have viable offspring, but in the wild they probably never would – avoid or kill each other instead.
    Now you people can’t even get past the first proposition – that individuals vary, when it comes to Humans. Even though you insist that man is just an intelligent animal, you refuse to look at him through Darwin’s lens. Afraid you wont find equality? You wont. We’ve been separate from Blacks for tens of thousands of years. It would be very strange if there weren’t some differences. Very strange.

  170. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 4:50 am #

    To symbolize the Perfected Man, the Masons use the symbol of the perfectly carved block; Zen uses the symbol of the uncarved block. Both are correct from their point of view. Though Zen takes the higher view, it understands and makes use of the lower.
    In any case, the Superior Man is not an instument and it the stones that the Builder rejected that Christ chose to be his corner stones.

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  171. Desertrat December 27, 2011 at 6:39 am #

    “…to register any objection to the travesties and organized brigandages of these times. At any other time in the life of this republic, such folk with active frontal lobes would have identified arrant criminal activity for what it is. Apparently, the nostrums of Paul Krugman are as powerfully narcotic as the raptures of Nascar.”
    Useful knowledge on that subject is not found at Facebook or in Ann Landers or the Horrorscopes.
    “There was some hope that Mr. Obama would restore the rule of law, but he has gone even farther in the opposite direction by disabling even the levers of truth…”
    Even the Nascar Nation folks didn’t believe that nonsense. And anybody who ever read anything about those who were publicly claimed as “mentors” by Obama should damned well have known better.

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  176. asoka. December 27, 2011 at 7:51 am #

    I’ve been trying for a year and a half to get asoka. to stop yammering on about immigration and open borders – just for long enough to let somebody else – anybody else – speak his or her mind on CFN.

    ProCon, I have been responding to your weekly posts on immigration.
    I offered to never post again on open borders, if you never again posted on racist organizations like FAIR and NumbersUSA. You declined the offer.
    So, you are misrepresenting the facts, as you are falsely claiming that I somehow impede conversation.
    Nobody wants to converse with you Procon, and you acknowledge that every time you set up rules to eliminate legitimate arguments (shutting down dialog) and then you proudly state: CRICKETS. SILENCE.
    Of course, because you have impeded dialog. You are a resident impediment on CFN.

  177. ghostlimb December 27, 2011 at 8:08 am #

    More bad birds coming home to roost in the Detroit aviary – America’s city on the vanguard of complete collapse – inspiring anxiety and hand-wringing across the land that – “we could be next”.
    A generation and a half ago, Detroit – the 7th wealthiest city in the world – now faces imminent financial collapse either through bankruptcy or an imposed emergency financial manager from the state of Michigan.
    Jesse Jackson and senator John Conyers held a press conference this week (from a local church, no less) declaring their instigation of widespread civil disobedience if a “take-over” of the city happens.
    Legal wrangling will attempt to avoid complete collapse and chaos, but brinksmanship could take it to the edge. “When you ain’t got nuthin’, you got – nuthin’ to lose” can be claimed by the mayor, city council, state governor and the courts.
    What form the civil disobedience may take is anyone’s guess. Good intentions and deprivations of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness could put in motion people who have boundless energy to protest the sorry state their once lavishly wealthy city has become – somehow those same people have zero energy and zero leadership to build and upkeep neighborhoods, preferring to let them go the way of their iconic ruin porn train station.
    The greatest act of civil disobedience would be to commit personal citizen energy to doing-it-yourself projects – street by street, block by block – things that cost little or no money, but require extreme personal effort to clean up, beautify, make more livable. Too bad they’ll never hear that through the 50-inch plasma big-screens they consumed by the thousands on Black Friday in vast retail acts of consuming civil obedience.

  178. Widespreadpanic7 December 27, 2011 at 8:33 am #

    “Nothing has changed.”
    -Ripthunder
    You said it, RipT. Truer words have never been spoken.
    –WSP7

  179. progress2conserve December 27, 2011 at 8:59 am #

    “Nobody wants to converse with you Procon, and you acknowledge that every time you set up rules to eliminate legitimate arguments (shutting down dialog) and then you proudly state: CRICKETS. SILENCE.” -asoka.-
    Actually, I do believe absalom is willing to engage over the subject. Also, the KulturCritic has indicated dissatisfaction with my views on reduction of US immigration. I’d like to hear from him as to why. And I believe it is Neon Vincent, or someone with the Coffee Party, who has mentioned several times that HE disagrees with JHK on immigration. Then there is Mila51, who once said immigration into the US should never be curtailed – although she has, so far, never stated her reasons.
    Other than those 4 posters and asoka., literally EVERY other CFN poster who has weighed in on the subject of US immigration has been in favor of a reduction. Now – the question is – why don’t you let other posters, besides yourself, give reasons* why the US needs high incoming immigration.
    Again, maybe we could all learn something.
    I’d say any regular CFN threadriders know exactly what you think about immigration into the United States, a..
    Let some other people speak their minds.
    *reasons – I’ll explore this in my next post on this topic. And I’m trying very hard to have an open mind on the subject. That’s why I’m interested in pro-immigrant arguments that don’t involve growth, moral platitudes, or ethnic entertainment and dining opportunities.
    I know that you would share something NEW, if you could think of it, asoka.. – but apparently you can not.
    Let someone else try.
    The floor is open.

  180. geistlos888 December 27, 2011 at 9:25 am #

    Oh boy oh boy oh boy – JHK is going to post his 2012 predictions! Will there be another prediction of the DOW at 4000 in my stocking this year? will there be unka Jim?
    Note: JHK – “DOW at 4000” – actual DOW now brown cow = 12,294 …not bad Jim – just 8000 or so points off

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  181. asoka. December 27, 2011 at 9:29 am #

    I’d say any regular CFN threadriders know exactly what you think about immigration into the United States
    I would say they also know what you think about immigration.
    Please stop posting about it every week.

  182. asoka. December 27, 2011 at 9:33 am #

    ethnic entertainment and dining opportunities
    This is a racist slur which you repeat regularly as a way to demean and slander. Immigrants contribute much more than ethnic food, but you choose to stupidly characterize the contribution of multiculturalism as restaurants and “entertainment”
    If I were Elaine Cho, I would tell what I really think about you Procon, but such language would not be appropriate on CFN.

  183. progress2conserve December 27, 2011 at 9:34 am #

    “A heads up from Tom Tancredo: the Left is pulling out the stops to get Obama reelected.”
    -vlad-
    Vlad, I hate to tell you – Obama is probably going to be reelected, anyway. Look at the bunch of baffoons lining up to try to replace him. And, Holder is a bad actor for sure – nothing he does will surprise me, and just wait until Obama’s next term. ugh.
    But, we’re ALL being played – the right, I think, much worse than the left. Grover Norquist was in the AARP magazine this month saying the Dem/Repub choice was simple – vote Repub because they are the party of smaller government.
    Yeah, sure – when BushII and the Repubs gave us two wars and Homeland Security – HAH! Smaller government??? How do liars like this live with themselves? JMGreer addresses it with “thaumaturge.” Brainwashing is the more common term – but JMG makes the best explanation I’ve ever seen.
    And there are still people who think Sarah Palin was a great choice for McCain’s VP.
    Politically – at the national presidential level – we’re over and done for and completely brainwashed – no matter who gets elected.

  184. progress2conserve December 27, 2011 at 9:39 am #

    “I would say they also know what you think about immigration.” -asoka-
    Actually, I’m not yet 100% sure what I think about immigration, MYSELF.
    That’s why I’d like to hear some new ideas from someone besides you, asoka.. Actually, I’d like to hear NEW ideas from you – if you had any.
    But you do not.
    You would share them if you did.

  185. progress2conserve December 27, 2011 at 9:47 am #

    Vlad, you say – “and Black Behavior has been getting worse for decades…”
    But that was not the question, Vlad.
    This was the, original and excellent, question:
    “will crowds of people react with grace, dignity, and cooperation if (when) the food/gas/water gets low?” -prd-
    My answer is NO. It’s well demonstrated that crowds of people deprived of food and water will behave very badly – without regard to “race.”
    Just don’t escalate arguments, Vlad.
    Things are bad enough as it is.
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  186. DeeJones December 27, 2011 at 10:17 am #

    “So again, anyone OTHER than asoka. – want to tell us why the US has to have our current high level of incoming immigration?”
    I thought I had answered this before:
    1- Its to depress the wage base with legal H1B visa holders. Go to Sillycone valley and see how many hi paying engineering jobs have been filled with the above, while laying off hi-skilled US citizens.
    2- Its to fill the low end of the wage base so that US citizens have to “compete” for those jobs.
    But the overall goal is to bring down the US wage base. Eventually, you will hear the Republicans talking about legislation to eliminate or reduce the Fed minimum wage, probably to something like under $5/hour (probably under $2) so we can be competitive on the ‘world’ market. No thought as to how someone making that much is supposed to pay rents, which aren’t going down BTW. I guess you are supposed to work 4 jobs a day, 7 days a week? Hope they legalize SPEED tho.
    ;]

  187. progress2conserve December 27, 2011 at 10:19 am #

    Absalom –
    I’m out of time for CFN until late tonight or tomorrow.
    Couple of good websites you suggested. I’m going to work up a response or two to you, later on.
    And I haven’t yet seen you post anything that argues why reducing US immigration (especially legal immigration) is not a good, practical goal, or first step?, into slowing US economic growth – for the good of all mankind.
    I’m still waiting for that from you.
    Right now, it’s looking like your answer will be some version of “civilization/humans are doomed at ANY rate – so why bother even trying to stop incoming immigration into the US.” Which to me is a sort of “moral platitude,” except that it is masquerading as doomer pessimism.
    But I’ve got an open mind. Talk to us.
    =======================
    So I’ll get back to you. Meanwhile, I’ve got a question. You’re “Johnny Rocket?,” aren’t you?
    I was trying to get you to have a nature/nurture debate months ago – when you dropped out of CFN.
    But – yeah – same guy, gotta’ be.
    Same fascination with flatulence as insult.
    HUGE preference for NURTURE over nature.
    Same confusion of “your” and “you’re.”
    You’ve got to be the same guy.
    Welcome back to the brawl, man!

  188. DeeJones December 27, 2011 at 10:25 am #

    “I have no desire to become Amish.”
    Say, speaking of the Amish, I was browsing the Nook Books recently and came across a whole new genre: Amish-Christian Romance. Wow! Now, I wonder, is there a Amish-Christian Erotic section too? If not, perhaps I can start it!
    😉

  189. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 10:58 am #

    Good stuff, Dee.
    Needed the chuckle.

  190. wagelaborer December 27, 2011 at 11:02 am #

    What is happening in Michigan is the same thing that happened in Greece and Italy – the open replacement of elected officials with bankers.
    You are letting your racism interfere with your ability to realize that this open attack on the tattered remmants of our democracy is an outrage.
    Detroit is economically devastated because the auto industry moved out, not because black people are lazy. Check out “Roger and Me” for a 20 year old documentary on the beginnings of the exodus, and what it did to people.
    Any city that had its main industry shutter its doors becomes a ghost town. That is why they call the Midwest the Rust Belt. You can see examples of ghost towns throughout the west, where ores accessible by individuals were played out.
    Some citizens of Detroit are actually turning vacant lots into gardens.
    We’re all in this together. We have to find a way to feed, house and clothe ourselves, or descend into a civil war.

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  191. anti soak December 27, 2011 at 11:05 am #

    Dee, on yr 2nd point, Didnt Obambi say ‘we need to be competitive with China’?
    Well Chinese work for 3$ a day and put in a 16 hour day!
    Yes the rich get richer…
    I googled ‘Soros evil’ and look what I got….
    ‘In 1994 Soros crowed in The New Republic, that “the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire.” The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee, to be “one of the greatest social robberies in human history. “The “Soros Empire” indeed. In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia. At the time, Malaysia’s Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohammad, called Soros “a villain, and a moron.” Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, “We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people.”
    The website Greek National Pride reports, “[Soros] was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia, Ukraine and Myanmar [Burma].
    Calling himself a philanthropist, Soros’ role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain. He is without conscience; a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality.”
    France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros for felony insider trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. Recently, his native Hungary fined Soros 2.2 million dollars for “illegal market manipulation.” Elizabeth Crum writes that the Hungarian economy has been in a state of transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized. [Soros’] deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary ‘s economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover.
    My point here is that Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach. But what about America? Soros told Australia’s national newspaper The Australian, “America, as the centre of the globalized financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This is now over. The game is out,” he said, adding that the time has come for “a very serious adjustment” in American’s consumption habits. He implied that he was the one with the power to bring this about.”
    Soros: “World financial crisis was “stimulating” and “in a way, the culmination of my life’s work.”
    Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil, in order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields. Obama’s largesse towards Brazil came shortly after his political financial backer, George Soros, invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Petrobras).
    Tait Trussel writes, “The Petrobras loan may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil, but it is a bad deal for the U.S. The American Petroleum Institute estimates that oil exploration in the U.S. could create 160,000 new, well-paying jobs, as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state, and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security and independence.”
    A blog you might want to keep an eye on is http://www.SorosWatch.com. Their mission: “This blog is dedicated to all who have suffered due to the ruthless financial pursuits of George Soros. Your stories are many and varied, but the theme is the same: the destructive power of greed without conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to print the truth in the hope that he will one day be made to stop preying upon the world’s poor, that justice will be served.”
    Back to America. Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years ago, news sources reported that “Soros [is] an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous.” In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, “Soros uses his philanthropy to change or more accurately, deconstruct the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. His “open society” is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements.”
    Perhaps the most important of these “whistle blowers” are David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Their book The Shadow Party outlines in detail how Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel.
    Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with radicals, and ousting moderate Democrats for years. The Shadow Party became the Shadow’…………..

  192. anti soak December 27, 2011 at 11:09 am #

    What da ya know of Aborigines?
    They left Africa long ago and had ‘undiluted’ DNA, till whites showed up.

  193. anti soak December 27, 2011 at 11:14 am #

    ‘Please stop posting about it every week’
    typical lib, trying to censure people

  194. wagelaborer December 27, 2011 at 11:25 am #

    Yeah, I’ve pointed that out also, Dee. He doesn’t pay attention.
    Obama has stated very clearly that the American worker must become “competitive” with the Chinese.
    He just doesn’t say what that means. But, clearly, American wages are being driven down to low enough that when the oil runs out, and shipping costs become exhorbitant, the capitalists will still be able to make extreme profits from national manufacturing.

  195. San Jose Mom 51 December 27, 2011 at 11:29 am #

    Vlad,
    Behavior and values are all over map in my neck of the woods, there are so many factors, and it’s so complex, it’s hard to predict outcomes.
    I like to observe human behavior. While Christmas shopping, I noticed how various mothers interacted with their kids. In some cases it was shocking, and sometimes it was beautiful.
    I look at the kids at my church–who knows how things will turn out for various families? The worst-behaved kids (feral!)are the offspring of a Harvard-educated mom.
    I can make a few racial conclusions from my own personal experience as a mom.
    1. I only see whites and asians bringing kids to art museums. Ditto for national parks.
    2. The lower classes will vacation again and again at Disneyland. Their cultural exposure is appalling.
    3. Recently-arrived Russians make the best teachers — dancing, piano, violin, etc.
    4. Latino children of parents who don’t speak English are going to suffer through high school.
    5. Chinese and Indian parents push their kids too hard and are going to have kids with serious emotional/mental issues as adults. Yeah, they’ll have high incomes, but their is more to life than a prestigious university/job.

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  196. asoka. December 27, 2011 at 11:43 am #

    Conservatives want to limit freedom of movement … Like Cain said to keep the Mexicans out you need to electrify the fence strong enough to kill them.
    Uteruses, gay marriages, halucogens, etc. conservatives want to suppress freedom.

  197. jerry December 27, 2011 at 11:45 am #

    Hello James. A happy new year to you and all of you commenters. We have been here weekly for many moons now, and little changes in the streets of Washington, DC. Instead, we see viper radicals wanting to become president lining the GOP podium. What will solidify an Obama victory would be Da’Trumpster running as a Independent, as he has recently inferred.
    The world is operating on a shell game mentality. The commoner is angry but really has nowhere to go. The fatcat elite keep spinning the Wheel of Fortune each and everyday. Those elected representatives, wealthy as they are, continue to gum up the system with attached bills to the major bills hoping to bring about a massively long XL Pipeline down the bowels of the nation to the anus port of Koch Bro refineries in Texas. All the while, the Canadians don’t want to build the damn thing themselves.
    The Golums in Congress want to strangle working people and make them even more an indentured servant by keeping the country from creating a new vision, such as localized/neighborhood/community based energy generation plants, support for an expansion of localized food sources/farms, effective mass transit systems, more affordable healthcare, an end to war profiteering, along with an end to wars and occupations, and an end to the war stimulus packages, and finally, reinstating Glass-Steagall, and ending the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, and an end to the corporation as a citizen followed by an end to private funding for elections. The list is endless!
    http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com

  198. asoka. December 27, 2011 at 11:52 am #

    Except conservatives want to impose their values on everyone and enforce them with police and prisons. And they don’t say please. I only directed a polite request to Procon’s obsessive posts on immigration and I asked by saying please. That is what you consider suppressing freedom?
    In an earlier post I told Procon he has every right to post. You ignored that and twisted a polite request into a codemnation of liberals.

  199. asoka. December 27, 2011 at 11:58 am #

    These are the kind of suggestions for positive change thatProcon ignores in his incessant pleas for attention … using the grandchildren as shields.

  200. progress2conserve December 27, 2011 at 11:59 am #

    OK, one more post for now –
    “Yeah, I’ve pointed that out also, Dee. He doesn’t pay attention.” -wageL-
    Pretty sure Dee was being sarcastic in her answer to me – naming a NEGATIVE about high US immigration (depression of wages for US citizens), but phrasing it sarcastically like it was a positive.
    Either that, or Dee’s H-I-B answer is a simple variant on “immigrants for US economic growth,” -asoka.’s favorite.
    ——————-
    And absalom, you posted right after me – so you may have missed my 10:19 post. I’m going to wait until I hear from you about
    1. your BETTER or more PRACTICAL idea than stopping US immigration to solve the world’s problems
    and
    2.”johnny rocket,” (gotta’ be you, whether you’ll admit it or not is another question)
    before trying to go any further with you about nature vs. nurture, and emotion/belief/facts/ideas etc, etc. (from the 2 websites)
    But my bottom line will be both nature and nurture are important – but nature is more important. You will argue the opposite. Not sure we can take that much further than that – but I’m willing to try, if you want to do so.
    gotta’ go

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  201. charliefoxtrot December 27, 2011 at 12:14 pm #

    WTF??!! whether i agree or not, where do you get that shit from? throughout history, it has been liberals who have fought AGAINST censorship! and fuck you, you are able to speak for or against liberals because of those sacrifices…and anyway, what is wrong with being liberal in the first place- wasn t this country FOUNDED by people espousing liberty? all apologies if you were kidding, but goddamnit, i get so sick of the hypocrisy that spews forth from ‘conservatives’ about big govt- heard of the war on drugs? or the whole right-to-life crowd, who obviously have never experienced systemic and unrelenting rape (at least not as a victim) and censorship- ever heard of joe mcarthy? i would seriously like to know where the meme about ‘liberal censorship’ comes from- this is not the first time i ve seen it

  202. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 12:21 pm #

    P2C wrote:
    And I haven’t yet seen you post anything that argues why reducing US immigration (especially legal immigration) is not a good, practical goal, or first step?
    ==========================================
    I tried to suggest why such thinking would lead to rigid CONTROL policies, more government interference in our lives, but you missed it because you are simple minded and verbose, not articulate.
    Actually, your plan may already be in place. Obama is deporting illegals and restricting general immigration far more than his last two predecessors.
    My own view, absent idealism, is that we are likely to see during collapse a time where states consolidate into regional chunks organized around the most productive remaining swaths of land. There will exist enclaves of wealth perhaps surrounded by border fences and patrols of corporate military men. The outsiders will be restricted to the wasteland, whereupon their entry and exit to the systems of affluence that do still exist will be granted or denied based on their utility to the system. If you are “useless or uncomfortable with absolute conformity” you will be turned away. Who knows exactly how this will manifest, I certainly can’t predict it sufficiently, but this is the path you’ve started us down with Anti – (Im)migration talk. You can toil that argument alone, I’m interested in solving the problems that make such rigidity unnecessary.
    ======================================
    P2C:
    , into slowing US economic growth – for the good of all mankind.
    ==============================================
    40 years ago the living wage froze in this country. What workers no longer earned in wages was lent to them in credit, so they could cope with the fact that an advancing standard of living (the American Dream) was no longer possible. People consumed their way to the nightmare scenario we are in now. Now, dumbshits like you bicker that niggers and beaners and women and whichever minority you dislike have come in and taken all the jobs. This is true and misleading. This society advanced when it allowed women and minorities better access to employment, but the real result was that it was no longer necessary to raise wages. People were replaced by people long before technology was a threat. But to pile on the trouble, the computer replaced routine production by humans possessed of average intelligence with artificial intelligence. Social benefits and workplaces comprised of dignity are no longer necessary in any meaningful sense. This is why “they’re” after your social security and pension checks today. You are redundant.
    This is why no candidate running will EVER genuinely produce “Immigration Reform.” This issue, too, is a moral platitude, but tailored to a right-wing mindset. However, as I described above, a plan to significantly restrict and CONTROL population in the face of sure(?) collapse is likely underway. So maybe I’m wrong: one day we may wake up in a police state, if we’re not already here. Wake up, dummy. We’re living the Neo Conservative/Neo Liberal “dream” as we speak.
    Next, Liberals who talk out of their asses and proselytize about how this country was made great by diversity of thought and the back breaking labor from (im)migration aren’t wrong, but they’re pandering. You are accidentally correct there. America owes its entire founding to borrowed and stolen ideas from other lands. Liberals play right into the hands of the Neo Liberal agenda of cheap labor supply and maximum profit. There’s not much more to be said about it.
    So, Prog, your focusing on the symptoms and not the root causes just like every other political wonk out there. This is why this country can’t solve ANY of its problems. If Liberals and Conservatives had any true interest in addressing this issue, or preventing it in the first place, YOUR GENERATION would have demanded WAGE equality over racial and sexual equality 40 years ago. Racial and sexual equality are important but indentured servitude and outright slavery provides equal opportunity employment.
    WAKE THE FUCK UP!
    =================================
    P2C:
    I’m still waiting for that from you.
    =====================================
    You’ve been served. But much of this will fly right over your head, as you bounce to some oblique pseudo-point.
    ======================================
    P2C:
    Right now, it’s looking like your answer will be some version of “civilization/humans are doomed at ANY rate – so why bother even trying to stop incoming immigration into the US.” Which to me is a sort of “moral platitude,” except that it is masquerading as doomer pessimism.
    ======================================
    Doomster realism is a more preferential term, but you’re free to label it with whatever moral platitude serves you best. I’m bored of you Prog, please take up this conversation with Asoka again. Oh, and you need to understand that the Nature VS Nurture juxtaposition is a bunk one. The two are interrelated, not opposed. Learn the theory before you form an opinion of it.
    ABSALOM

  203. metuselah December 27, 2011 at 12:36 pm #

    Nothing is by accident. Everything is planned. Libyan, Syria invasion planned years in advance:
    http://goo.gl/eecIC

  204. metuselah December 27, 2011 at 12:53 pm #

    Excerpt from Vatican Assassins – by Eric Phelps
    The purpose of the expose’ of the Twentieth Century is to prove the
    assassination of President John F. Kennedy, ordered by Jesuit Superior General
    Jean-Baptiste Janssens and executed by Pope Paul VI, was carried out by “the
    American Pope,” Francis Cardinal Spellman. Spellman, being the Archbishop of
    New York, was “the American Military Vicar” and therefore used his most
    obedient soldiers – certain Knights of Malta, Shriner Freemasons, Knights of
    Columbus and Mafia Dons – in carrying out his orders from Rome.
    The single reason for the President’s assassination was his interference with
    the purpose of the Jesuits’ Fourteenth Amendment American Empire created in
    1868. That purpose was to restore and maintain the worldwide Temporal
    (political) Power of that Jesuit Creation of 1870 — the “infallible” Pope. In
    resisting the Pope’s Temporal Power, he threatened the monopoly of the Jesuits’
    Federal Reserve Bank by enacting Executive Order 11110 (4 June 1963) thereby
    injecting into the economy nearly five billion dollars (4.7) in interest-free United
    States Notes, only to be recalled the day after his burial.
    The President also attempted to break the foremost international intelligence
    arm of the Vatican’s Jesuits – the evil Central Intelligence Agency – “into a
    thousand pieces.” In 1963 the CIA was manned by many of Hitler’s old warriors –
    the Jesuit-controlled Nazi SS – turned “cold warriors.” According to the great
    Frenchman, Edmond Paris in his The Secret History of the Jesuits, it was a Jesuit-
    controlled priest Bernhardt Stempfle who wrote Hitler’s Mein Kampf. This fact is
    further confirmed by one of the founders of the Nazi Party, Roman Catholic Otto
    Strasser, in his revealing book, Hitler and I. It was Roman Catholic Hitler who said
    of the Roman Catholic Himmler, having modeled the SS after the Jesuit Order,
    “I can see Himmler as our Ignatius of Loyola.”
    And lastly, the feared SD – the Central Security Service of the SS (after which
    the American CIA would be modeled with the help of the repatriated Nazi General,
    Reinhard Gehlen) – was also overseen by Himmler. Himmler’s father, Gebhard
    Himmler, being a Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor and schoolmaster for the Roman
    Catholic Wittelsbach royal family of Bavaria, was the culprit behind his methodical
    son becoming the bloodiest Inquisitor in the history of the Society of Jesus. Himmler
    also commanded Martin Bormann. For the Order sponsored Bormann’s rise to
    power through Xavier Schwarz, its Reich Party Treasurer and also a brother
    Knight of Malta to Franz von Papen! (Roman Catholic Martin Bormann (whose
    eldest son, Adolf Martin Bormann, became a Jesuit priest to the Congo) later
    escaped from Hitler’s bunker in Berlin to South America (in the disguise of a Jesuit
    according to Nino Lo Bello’s Vatican Papers) via the Pope’s Vatican Ratlines and
    became a lay brother of the Jesuits’ Redemptorist Order – created as a result of the
    Order’s suppression in 1773 – under the name of Brother Augustin von Lange.)
    Secreted out of Europe through the Vatican’s Ratlines, these murderers
    escaped their rightful punishment as war criminals who, during the Jesuit Crusade in
    Europe and Russia, killed millions of Russian Orthodox People and Jewish People
    pursuant to the Jesuits’ evil Council of Trent, which, after condemning freedom of
    conscience and freedom of the press, concluded with these words:
    “Accursed be all heretics. ACCURSED!! ACCURSED!!”
    Lastly, President Kennedy began to end the Vatican’s hoax known as “the
    Cold War,” the American CIA and Russian KGB having secretly worked together
    since World War II. He also began to end that Jesuit Inquisition in Vietnam, as its
    future highpoint would be “Operation Phoenix,” the CIA mass-murder of 60,000
    Vietnamese, “in cold blood” according to its Director, William E. Colby. The
    President interfering with Rome’s Holy Office of the Inquisition could not be
    tolerated! Millions of “infidel” Buddhists were to be exterminated, the Pope’s
    International Drug Trade would explode, American patriotism and liberty would
    further be destroyed and Vietnam would be reunited under Ho Chi Minh – another
    communist military dictator loyal to the Pope – like Stalin, like Chairman Mao, like
    Castro, like George H. W. Bush and son. Waged under the guise of “fighting
    godless communism,” Cardinal Spellman championed America’s most disastrous
    conflict known as “Spelly’s War” overseen by Spelly’s General, the Roman
    Catholic and CFR member, William C. Westmoreland. (Remember, according to
    Col. L. Fletcher Prouty in his JFK, the forced movement of over 600,000 Roman
    Catholics on U.S. Navy transport vessels from North Vietnam into South Vietnam
    was “one of the root causes of the Vietnam War.” The arch-Catholic Secretary of the
    Navy responsible for implementing that Jesuit-agitation was the Supreme Knight
    of the Knights of Columbus, Francis P. Matthews. Knight Matthew’s Master was
    America’s “Military Vicar,” Francis Cardinal Spellman. Later, Spellman made
    several visits to the war-front calling the American troops “the soldiers of Christ,”
    fighting the Pope’s Crusade against “godless Jew Communism”!) The outcome was
    58,000 dead, 130,000 post-war suicides and a 220 billion dollar debt to the Jesuits’
    Federal Reserve Bank. All these acts of President Kennedy were proper assertions
    of national sovereignty and therefore infringed on the Pope’s Temporal Power. As
    the “infallible” Vicar of Christ and thus, “the Theocratic Universal Monarch of
    the World,” the Pope, through the religious, political and financial power of the
    Jesuit Order, fully intended, then and now, to ultimately rule all nations through his
    loyal kings and dictators..

  205. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 12:55 pm #

    This is a good one Met, there’s an extended excerpt of it somewhere, but I can’t remember where I’ve seen it.

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  206. welles December 27, 2011 at 1:00 pm #

    this kunstler guy’s just a bloody waste of time, though sometimes humorous and the turn of a phrase.
    when’s it all going to come tumbling down jimbo?
    much more interesting to spectate as the leverpullers manage to keep things running year after year…
    much more entertaining i must say.
    peace boffos

  207. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 1:01 pm #

    The course of most of the conversations on CFN:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyWsFfd9pqE
    ABSALOM

  208. horseoutside December 27, 2011 at 1:07 pm #

    it is a kunstler tradition.
    get with the program, douche!
    two hundred and FIRST!!!!

  209. DeeJones December 27, 2011 at 1:11 pm #

    “Pretty sure Dee was being sarcastic in her answer to me – naming a NEGATIVE about high US immigration (depression of wages for US citizens), but phrasing it sarcastically like it was a positive.
    Either that, or Dee’s H-I-B answer is a simple variant on “immigrants for US economic growth,” -asoka.’s favorite.”
    Um, either you are stoopid….I don’t see how you think my answer was being ‘sarcastic’. I was just telling it as I see it. What other reason would there be for increased immigration? I really don’t see the ‘positive’, so enlighten us, eh?
    And I don’t support the h1b visa either, I know too many that lost good jobs in sillycone vally to H1B visa imports.
    So, I guess you are just stoopid.
    “40 years ago the living wage froze in this country. What workers no longer earned in wages was lent to them in credit, so they could cope with the fact that an advancing standard of living (the American Dream) was no longer possible. People consumed their way to the nightmare scenario we are in now.” ABS.
    This is something that I have pointed out here over & over. But know one pays any attention.
    Whats that saying about History? Gonna repeat it over & over & over……
    ;[

  210. greyghost05 December 27, 2011 at 1:42 pm #

    How come this air thief is still breathing and continuing his twisted mission ?
    A T W E P sanction should be flying under the radar to bring closure to this representitive of the BORG.

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  211. greyghost05 December 27, 2011 at 1:59 pm #

    Julie, I live just across the border in Ottawa Lake, MI. Toledo is the largest and closest metro area. After that it’s 38 miles north to Ann Arbor or 55 miles northeast to Detroit (where the weak are killed and eaten!).
    Tax’s here aren’t too bad. I’m retired and will now have to pay on my pension thanks to our new republican overlord.
    The well water here is mixed with iron and calcium. You get rust stains in the sink and a white ring around the faucets. But it tastes good and has no smell. West of me and going both north and south the water has sulfur and the rotten egg smell.

  212. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 2:17 pm #

    Meanwhile millions of Christians were put to death by Communist Goons, largely Jewish, in Russia and Eastern Europe.
    The world owes a debt of gratitude to Mordecai Vanunu, as Israeli who told the World that Israel has a large cache of nuclear weapons.

  213. Widespreadpanic7 December 27, 2011 at 2:17 pm #

    Hey OzoneP it looks like that bar in Winsted where we saw you play last July is closed down. Ya, we drove by today, windows papered over, sign torn down, parking lot empty. That’s some pretty good clues right there that something is amiss. Used to be that package stores and bars were recession proof. That no longer seems to be the case. Or maybe it was poor management, who knows?
    —WSP7

  214. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 2:19 pm #

    You see Dee? Your bad attitude gets in the way of clear communication. And then you make it worse by coping an attitude on top of that and calling him “stoopid”. You need to purify your heart.

  215. Widespreadpanic7 December 27, 2011 at 2:22 pm #

    Hey Vlad there were some Jews in the Soviet nomenclature but they were a small minority, about commensurate in percentage with the Jewish population in Russia at the time. The NKVD dynamited Synagogues just as frequently as they dynamited Orthodox & Baptist churches.
    –WSP7

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  216. J Lee December 27, 2011 at 2:28 pm #

    Fifty-fourth!

  217. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 2:31 pm #

    All true. You say it’s all due to nurture/environment/culture. I say it’s due to both these and genetics. What proportion of each and how they interact is the question – and a difficult one in most cases.
    Are you teaching your kids violin? You think that the Russians are better than the Japanese and the Suzuki method? Can you explain?
    Afficionados of Classical speak well of the East Asians and their technical proficiency. But often the Spirit and the Joy are absent. Seizi Ozawa, the Conductor of the Boston Syphony was famous for jumping up and down trying to be ecstatic.
    YoYo Ma has overcome his cultural/genetic barriers and expresses the Joy of the Great Musician.
    Both Zen and Taoism emphasized individuality and the breaking of social convention. This is something that East Asians need to attain the higher life. But it was always understood that the individual has already been well socialized a la Confucian precepts. They weren’t interested in creating Bohemians, Beat Zens, or Alan Watts types – or coddling them. This confusion between transcendental spontaneity and the poor impulse control of the libertine is an old one – and only got worse when the Dharma came West. It is Wilber’s pre/trans problem in a nutshell.

  218. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 2:41 pm #

    Nope. The Leaderhsip of the Communist Movements in Russia and Eastern Europe was upwards of 70%. They may have persecuted Orthodox Jews too but they certainly killed millions of Christians – focusing on priests and bishops in particular.
    Read Solzhenitsyn’s Book about the Jewish role Russian History when it gets translated. It has faced massive resistance in the Jewish controlled published industry in the West. But it will get thru via internet publishing. Watch for it. I’ll let you know when I find out.
    Even after Stalin broke the Jewish death grip on power, they stayed strong in some areas such as the Secret Police and Gulags.

  219. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 2:51 pm #

    The Abos have IQ’s of around 60 – far lower than even the Negro IQ of 70. The Bushmen of the Kalahari have an IQ of about 60 as well.
    The Abos also hate alot of Homo Erectus characteristics. They probably interbred with them and lower their IQ thereby.
    The visual part of their brain is larger than our’s and they are said to be very observant. A valuable asset in finding one’s way thru the trackless waste. Had a Psych Prof who talked about that but said they weren’t superior in other ways – understatement of the year. It all fits the pattern: say only positive things about non-Whites and never anything negative. Say only negative things about Whites and never anything positive. If you can’t say anything positive about minorities – lie or say nothing. If you can’t say anything negative about Whites, lie or say something positive about non-Whites.
    Btw, Negroes are a young race. The original African emmigrants were probably an intermediary type like modern Somalis or Ethiopians. We used to assume that these peoples were a mixture of Blacks and Arabs. But they may in fact have been the originals. Of course, modern man may have evolved outside of Africa – the different races evolving from different races of Homo Erectus. Or both things happened. In any case, Whites and Aians have Neanderthal genes and Africans don’t. That has been established.

  220. ront December 27, 2011 at 2:55 pm #

    A friend sent me this. I thought some participants here would appreciate it.
    ****
    It’s the frontpiece to “Bloodmoney,” the latest from my favorite writer, David Ignatius. It’s what Pashtun tribesman said to Viscount John Morley, British State Secretary for India, 1905-1910: ‘First, you push on your territories, where you have no busines to be, and where you had promised not to go; secondly, your intrusion provokes resentment, and resentment means resistance. Thirdly, you instantly cry out that the people are rebellious and their act is rebellion…Forthly, you send out a force to stamp out rebellion; and fifthly, having spread bloodshed, confusion and anarchy, you declare with your hands uplifted to the heavens that moral reasons forced you to stay; for if you were to leave, this territory would be left in a condition which no civilized power could contemplate with equanimity or with composure.” Sound familiar?

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  221. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 2:59 pm #

    Meant to say Abos have alot of Homo Erectus characteristics.
    I’m so filled with hate that I can’t even say have but have to have hate instead.

  222. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 3:06 pm #

    Is he the Jewish Guy who became a Sufi? That’s a good thing since the Jewish Religion has been so compromised by political and social concerns. Mainstream Judaism is so this worldly that the people are denied the consolations of life after death and a personal relationship with God. A broad statement I know, but a true one on that level.
    It’s not for no reason that so many Jews went East in their quest. Sure they could go Orthodox, but what a terrible transformation that is. Or they could get into the Kabbalah, but wait till they read the Zohar etc. The darkness of ethnic hatred is not left behind even there. I was amazed when I found out and remain so.

  223. Eleuthero December 27, 2011 at 3:30 pm #

    You’re absolutely correct Vlad that in Sweden it’s a matriarchy AND the imported Muslims commit an incredibly disproportionate percentage of the rapes. The same is true in Holland or any other European country where anyone would care to look up the stats.
    I say this … I *will* come to your side of the argument when the phony egalitarians choose to ignore OVERWHELMING DATA. Those same phonies also will not deal with the subject of Islamic hatred of “infidels” (i.e., people who are not Muslim).
    The liberals on this site are BORING because their views are like a recitation of every plank of the DNC’s position on everything. Why don’t they just hold hands and sing “Kumbaya”? Seriously … any position that is NOT data driven is garbage.
    You’re also right about “…Dragon Tattoo”. I read the book (but will never get the sequels) because it’s a sop to radical feminism and it’s ridiculous … like these TV shows where hot babes are cryptographers and such. In real life, women in the sciences are as rare as the Spotted Owl. In California, middle-aged women think that New Age “thinking” is a substitute for education and discernment.
    E.

  224. anti soak December 27, 2011 at 3:36 pm #

    ‘Ditto for national parks.’
    Actually the illegals are ruining the parks with their pot farms, guns, fires.

  225. anti soak December 27, 2011 at 3:43 pm #

    WTF yrself…
    1…I am not a ‘conservative’
    2…Yes of heard of JMC
    Have you ever heard of the meeropols?
    Sons of Ethel and Julius.
    ‘Ironically, if there was any government that staged show trials for political ends, it was the government for which the Rosenbergs gave up their lives, that of the former Soviet Union.’
    ‘A letter to the The Rosenberg Letters in 1994. Robert Meeropol is a lecturer and creator of the Rosenberg Fund for Children
    In 2003 Pete Seeger was on the Advisory Board of the Rosenberg Fund for Children.
    They help Mumias spawn.’
    ‘brothers are totally unconcerned over the impact on America
    of the left’s defense of the indefensible
    nor of the American troops killed in Korea because of what their parents did.
    ‘At the end of the blurb called case overview they admit mom and dad were spys
    But they only admit the truth at the bottom of the page
    June 19, 2003 in New York City, on the 50th anniversary of the executions, with Harry Belafonte, Tovah Feldshuh, Peter Yarrow, Bill T. Jones, Holly Near and Ronnie Gilbert, Janiece Thompson, Suheir Hammad, Martín Espada and the Camp Kinderland Chorus.
    During the trial, the government said the Rosenbergs had asked Ethel’s brother, David Greenglass, who worked as a machinist in the atomic bomb program at Los Alamos, N.M., to provide them with information and diagrams of the bomb.
    David’s wife, Ruth Greenglass, testified at trial that in 1945 Ethel Rosenberg had typed her brother David’s notes. David corroborated that story, which became significant evidence against Ethel.
    In 1996, the RFC Board started thinking about creating a dramatic program to tell our story.
    We wanted to honor Ethel and Julius’ legacy from the past,
    to celebrate the courage of families who continue to resist today, and to express our hopes for the future.
    We wanted to use the words of those families and tie those words together with the music and the poetry inspired by the movements for social change around the world. We wanted to embrace Ethel and Julius’ words, and Michael and Robby’s legacy in the context of today’s struggles, today’s children.
    I wrote CELEBRATE THE CHILDREN OF RESISTANCE with help from Robby and our friend Martín Espada. Material for the script was compiled from The Rosenberg Letters edited by Michael Meeropol’
    ‘Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed 55 years ago, on June 19, 1953. But last week, they were back in the headlines when Morton Sobell, the co-defendant in their famous espionage trial, finally admitted that he and his friend, Julius, had both been Soviet agents.
    It was a stunning admission; Sobell, now 91 years old, had adamantly maintained his innocence for more than half a century. After his comments were published, even the Rosenbergs’ children, Robert and Michael Meeropol, were left with little hope to hang on to — and this week, in comments unlike any they’ve made previously, the brothers acknowledged having reached the difficult conclusion that their father was, indeed, a spy. “I don’t have any reason to doubt Morty,” Michael Meeropol told Sam Roberts of the New York Times.’
    Mike Meerolpol carries on the family tradition.
    His folks help kill americans in the KW and he helps Mumias spawn.
    [mumia was a sperm donor ya know].

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  226. anti soak December 27, 2011 at 3:44 pm #

    Asoka needs an audience.
    Asoka didnt admit ‘peak’ anything.

  227. anti soak December 27, 2011 at 3:49 pm #

    Really?
    this is what you posted and what I responded to:
    ‘Please stop posting about it every week.’

  228. anti soak December 27, 2011 at 3:52 pm #

    In answer to yr question…
    I get it from asokas post:
    ‘Please stop posting about it every week.’
    Hate crimne laws
    and in Euroville….speech crime laws.
    Since when does Asoka get to tell someone here to shut up?
    Nobody made him King.
    See …’THE NEW THOUGHT POLICE’
    Tammy Bruce.

  229. anti soak December 27, 2011 at 3:58 pm #

    ‘I offered to never post again on open borders, if you never again posted on racist organizations like FAIR and NumbersUSA. You declined the offer.’
    Again, who made you King?
    P2C can say whatever he pleases here!

  230. anti soak December 27, 2011 at 4:02 pm #

    from unamusement aprk..in case ya missed my post….
    I spent 6 months living in the UK in 2011. Even then, I thought their laws were over the top, but so did many of the 20-somethings I met. In the same year, they released the two boys who brutally murdered and sodomized a toddler while arresting a grade schooler for saying ‘stupid paki’ after he was pulled out of a fight with a Pakistani. It always stuck in my mind the juxtaposition of what was criminal. The college kids cringed at the thought of a fellow student being one of those murderers, but they also were extremely careful not to speak out against ‘asylum seekers’ for fear of trouble with the law and school. Their political leaders are completely divorced from mainstream values. “Enoch was Right” should be a street art propaganda theme.
    Sadly, this is somewhat present in the US where people are jailed for spanking their kids or ticketed for not wearing a helmet while riding a bike while a rapist or murderer can plea down a crime to get less than 10 years in jail. I doubt it will get as extreme, as the problem with the UK (and Europe) has always been the heavy Marxism-Socialism influence. Yes we have it here in academia, but nowhere near as ferocious or organized as in Europe. Plus, we have rednecks. The difference with America thankfully is the federal set up and division of powers. The difference between Massachusetts and Texas is large enough to almost count as different nations.

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  231. metuselah December 27, 2011 at 4:12 pm #

    That reminds me:
    Peggy Lee: Is That All There Is? – YouTube
    http://goo.gl/GseB
    Great song, great delivery.

  232. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 5:04 pm #

    E rushed over to Vlad’s freshly baked turd, took a whiff and wrote:
    You’re absolutely correct Vlad that in Sweden it’s a matriarchy AND the imported Muslims commit an incredibly disproportionate percentage of the rapes. The same is true in Holland or any other European country where anyone would care to look up the stats.
    =================================
    Ok, so Sweden is a matriarchy, you guys are bickering about the accuracy of a fuking movie? Then you make a broad leap to a racist pronunciation about Muslims? Incongruent losers!
    Eleuthero, why don’t you cite your sources, instead of suggesting others embark on a wild Google goose chase to support your view for you? That’s generally the way people interested in exchanging ideas who visit this site do it. None of the truly DISCERNING readers here cherry pick facts to support their perspective, and then keep them hidden, and that’s only about 3-4 people from what I’ve observed.
    You can dredge up support for any bullshit “theory” fathomable on the internet, which will likely be laden with only MISLEADING EXTRAPOLATIONS from spurious facts and statistics. If you are indeed a science guy as you let on, then you know that its strong INTERPOLATIVE data gathered through EXPERIMENTATION and STATISTICAL correlation which must be combined to build a solid foundation that qualifies as EVIDENCE for a scientific theory.
    You are nothing more than a calculator; a mindless TOOL; A pathetic numbers nerd who’s NEVER done any real theory building in his life.
    As a last resort, you try to lump your competitors into the broad category of Liberalism so you can avoid any real challenge to your mundane thoughts regarding social issues. Last week I cut your legs off and beat ya half to death with’em, and it’s clear you’re still lickin’ your wounds. You’re a fraud, E. Stop lettin’ Vlad poo on your chest.
    =========================================
    E wrote:
    I say this … I *will* come to your side of the argument when the phony egalitarians choose to ignore OVERWHELMING DATA. Those same phonies also will not deal with the subject of Islamic hatred of “infidels” (i.e., people who are not Muslim).
    ===========================================
    Another OVERWHELMING OVER-GENERALIZATION which one could make about any in-group/out-group conflict one can name. You are a sad lonely man and doubtable have the rich intellectual and social life you claim to have. You talk shit about people like Vlad who outpost every other member of this forum for never taking a break, then you instigate his puerile intellect by agreeing with the amalgam of nonsensical points he fails to make. Hypocrisy is a bitch and Eleuthero is his name.
    ====================================
    E wrote:
    The liberals on this site are BORING because their views are like a recitation of every plank of the DNC’s position on everything. Why don’t they just hold hands and sing “Kumbaya”? Seriously … any position that is NOT data driven is garbage.
    =====================================
    Your positions are mostly garbage because their ONLY driven by statistics, not theory. Here you go ass monkey; here’s a link to a REAL scientist’s website. Here’s just one of the articles where he talks about the nuances of the scientific method. He will gladly have any statistical and generally scientific conversation with you you can think of. And if you think you can get away with using the default retort of “bleeding heart Liberal” to him, you’ve got another thing comin’. Good luck, asshole.
    http://www.arachnoid.com/theory/index.html
    ABSALOM

  233. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 5:10 pm #

    Good tune!
    Back atcha:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCUmSijiWxA
    ABSALOM

  234. metuselah December 27, 2011 at 5:55 pm #

    The Wandering Soul – Gary Atkinson – YouTube
    http://goo.gl/KmNdl

  235. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 6:18 pm #

    You gotta be Jewish. They are the kings of scatalogical “humor”, barf jokes, – and all things of this nature.

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  236. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 6:19 pm #

    If Muslims commit 90 or 95 percent of the rapes in Sweden, how much “interpretation” does one need? You’re just trying to obfuscate simple truths you don’t like.

  237. AMR December 27, 2011 at 6:30 pm #

    The Calvinists I’ve known have been a very different lot from the worldly ones you described. My Calvinist acquaintances have generally thought more in terms of sticks than carrots, putting a scary emphasis on the justness of eternal hellfire for the unbelieving and heavenly reward for the elect. Their stance as self-declared members of the elect is less one of their deserving earthly rewards than of sneering arrogance towards the supermajority whom they declare damned. As a way of explaining why the hell one ought to pray or not be a psychopath since everything is predestined from time immemorial, they talk a lot about prayer and especially works being Holy Ghost-inspired and evidence of election, the latter point allowing them to be rubbed in the face of nonbelievers. All the same, all of humanity is totally depraved, enslaved by the sinful nature, and consequently redeemable only by totally undeserved grace.
    If I were still hanging out with Calvinists the cognitive dissonance would make my head explode, and I would be walking around in undisguised contempt at their arrogance. I pretty much got away from these people and took refuge in the Catholic Church in college because they were crazy and their theology was patently immoral. My main Calvinist contact in college, the head of a conservative Anglican student organization-cum-think tank that was chronically entangled with bog-standard secular GOP politics, finally scared off during one of the Friday night salons that he hosted at his house, which doubled as his organization’s headquarters, when he offered to take me upstairs and summarily baptize me in his bathtub. Otherwise, he told me, “your soul is in jeopardy.” This guy had an unsettling John Brown zeal in his eyes, and some of his associates were creepy sourpusses. These people were theocratic throwbacks who made Andrew Carnegie and Billy Graham look avant garde.
    The bathtub baptism offer was the moment at which I committed to go through with RCIA after months of dithering. I truly appreciated the sobriety and deliberation of Catholic confirmation classes and the fact that a Catholic priest could be defrocked for performing summary baptisms absent the freely given consent and likely imminent death of the recipient.
    The bathtub baptist was a cradle Catholic who had overwhelmingly positive things to say about the Catholic Church, although he had left it in part because he believed he had a call to ministry but also wanted to get married. I sympathize with his thinking in that regard, but he obviously had other compelling reasons to leave it on account of his disavowing much of its most fundamental theology and general worldview. What amazed me was that he, like many other sola fide zealots, claimed to have 100% common cause with the Catholic Church, even on matters of theology.
    Calvinists say the darnedest things.

  238. dale December 27, 2011 at 6:33 pm #

    Um, excuse me but the best indicator of future behavoir is past and present behavior – and Black Behavior has been getting worse for decades.
    —————————————-
    Well…doubling down on that bit of brilliant nonsense, you have no reason to whimper and whine when I point out that fascists inevitably must find more and worse enemies. Enemies which simple “must” be dealt with through the use of murder and genocide. That has been the MO of every fascist government which ever came to power, from Mussolini to Hussein, including the runt Franco.

  239. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 6:50 pm #

    You wish

  240. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 6:59 pm #

    Vlad, using your vapid logic one could argue that because Eurasians (various shades of white) are responsible for 90-95% of all the well organized death and destruction in history, regardless of their IQ averages, that they are too dangerous of a race to allow to exist. You would never have the balls to apply that logic to us whitey’s, not even if you fake like your are.
    Next, dumb fuck, I’d need to know from where said stats were acquired, by whom, through what type of measurement methods, and so on. You really are every bit as stupid as you sound. You give yourself away at every turn. keep goin’, freak.

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  241. AMR December 27, 2011 at 7:09 pm #

    You hit on some of the reasons that I’m impressed with Glenn Beck. Beck goes batshit pretty often, but on the one occasion when I watched his show a few months ago (my grandmother pretty much stuck to CNN, and I rarely watch TV on my own), my immediate reaction was, “Wow, this guy is an American Pim Fortuyn, and that’s exactly what we need.” One of his main arguments that night was that European leftists were being foolhardy by entering into alliances of convenience with Islamists whose goals included establishing a theocracy that would destroy the pluralism and liberties that the leftists held dear.
    Beck, like Fortuyn, was effectively to the left of establishment leftists by actually defending basic principles of pluralism and tolerance that the leftists had abandoned. He took on the Westboro Baptist Church, declaring it beyond the pale and insisting that an open society had a duty to treat Westboro and its ilk as pariahs. Islamist theocrats, he argued, must be treated in the same fashion, but were getting a pass, to the ultimate detriment of their fair-weather leftist allies.
    Another area where Beck made more sense than the competition was on Middle Eastern geopolitics. He didn’t wow me with his carrying on about the worldwide caliphate conspiracy (good luck getting Persians and Arabs, Sunnis and Shiites, to work together without a common infidel enemy; they can hardly stop bickering even with Crusaders in their backyards), but he had a certain Realpolitik common sense that is totally lacking among the neocon chickenhawks who dominate GOP foreign and military policy, and lately Democratic policy, too. His recurrent point was that our supposed allies in the Middle East included a lot of very unsavory theocratic characters, any of them likely to turn on us in the future. What a crazy thing to expect of nice chaps like, oh, Saddam Hussein or Osama bin Laden.
    If the only person willing to publicly say these things is a teary-eyed histrionic with a chalkboard, goofy strategic maps and a simplistic, conspiratorial understanding of our enemies, I’ll take it. Beck can be nuts, but he isn’t as arrogant, ignorant, foolish or reckless as the chickenhawk armchair generals who currently make our foreign and military policy. Someone with an audience needs to offer that sort of reality check.

  242. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 7:18 pm #

    Now that’s a point worth exploring. Good one.

  243. asoka. December 27, 2011 at 8:09 pm #

    antisoak, a polite request and telling someone to shut up are very different.
    I can politely request that ProCon not post on immigration every week. ProCon can, out of courtesy, comply with the request. Can those two things coexist in your mind? No force, no threat, no “liberal” thought control is involved in a polite request.
    Procon can just as easily decide to ignore my request, because no one is ordering him to shut up, no one is threatening him if he doesn’t shut up. You are way over the top in your reaction, antisoak. He has the right to post whatever he wants. And I have the right to ask him to reconsider his obsessive posts and not post on immigration every week. Everyone’s freedom is being respected.

  244. ksat December 27, 2011 at 8:11 pm #

    Amazing how the devious Obama was able to, again, fool the people into believing that he is helping them. The latest scam is the payroll tax holiday extension, which the stupid Repubs bought into. SS is already is the red,the trust fund has been stolen, & most boomers are not yet even receiving it. The something for nothing culture has taken over & we are finished as a nation. My generation & yours, the boomers, will go down as, perhaps, the worst, most self-centered in history. By the payroll holiday extension, which has not & will not help the economy much, we are saying that we refuse to even pay for our own retirements. Gens X&Y should take notice & refuse to enslave themselves to pay FICA taxes when it is their turn to take over – if we ever get to that point as one nation.

  245. asoka. December 27, 2011 at 8:43 pm #

    SS is already is the red
    Really? Social security is solvent and everyone who qualifies is receiving their checks because there is money. You have been scammed by right wing media, because social security is not in any kind of crisis.
    Social Security is solvent until 2038 (Source: CBO), and if the rich paid on all their income (not just the first $106,000) like the middle class does, social security would be solvent forever.
    Contrary to popular belief, Social Security taxes are not deposited into the Social Security trust funds … Along with many other forms of revenues, these Social Security taxes become part of the government’s operating cash pool, or what is more commonly referred to as the U.S. treasury. In effect, once these taxes are received, they become indistinguishable from other monies the government takes in.
    But the Social Security revenues are accounted for separately through the issuance of federal securities to the Social Security trust funds … but the trust funds themselves do not receive or hold money. They are simply accounts.
    By the end of last year, those securities, or bonds, amounted to $2.6 trillion,

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  246. ctemple December 27, 2011 at 9:58 pm #

    Now you want everyone to provide some sort of scientific proof of their opinion before expressing it on here? It’s been my experience that hardly anyone ever wins an argument on CFN blog.
    Some arguments seem more or less self explanatory, like societies that existed for hundreds of years without mass immigration now can’t get along without it, (Europe).
    Or that religion is a defining thing about culture and is one of the things that binds it together, try telling that to some atheist, what you’ll get is the usual often antectodal evidence of how abusive some Christian was to them at some anterior point.
    The point being is, people are here to express an opinion, hopefully be convincing, not bore everybody out of their skulls with cut and paste or articles to look at. Or scientific jargon so arcane that harldy anybody knows what the fuck they’re talking about.
    And you’re name calling two of the more articulate people on here, Euluthero and Vlad Kranz.

  247. charliefoxtrot December 27, 2011 at 10:17 pm #

    articulate??! vlad KRANTZ??? fer fuck s sake, spewing recycled, rehashed, specious, racist ignorance does NOT qualify as urbane eloquence…if you re just trying to get a rise outta somebody; consider the pot stirred- i sincerely hope you aint fooled by the fear and ignorance masquerading as a principled stand…sheesh!

  248. asoka. December 27, 2011 at 10:18 pm #

    Yo, ctemple, I am an atheist here and this is what I say: religion is a defining thing about culture and is one of the things that binds it together (operative word being “bind”)
    Gordon Allport also stated (in 1960) that religion fulfills a human need for a psychology of “becoming,” to facilitate psychological growth and discovery of our human potential. Allport says this “can best be discovered by looking within ourselves.”
    None of which requires a “God” … religion does not need any kind of god. Atheistic religions like Buddhism and Taoism and Jainism do just fine without hypothesizing a God.

  249. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 10:28 pm #

    CTEMPLE:
    Now you want everyone to provide some sort of scientific proof of their opinion before expressing it on here?
    ================================================
    Ridiculous. You’re just talkin’ sideways. If someone is going to make a claim for which they reference some sort of “evidence” or supporting platform, it only makes sense that they offer it for consideration. The discussion can stay focused this way, if people consider the material in it’s original form and then debate specifics some progress might be made;otherwise, dick heads like you only ever offer never ending responses that abandon the original topic altogether.
    Don’t twist words, moron.
    ABSALOM

  250. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 10:48 pm #

    You said it.

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  251. jim e December 27, 2011 at 10:54 pm #

    “I told althea I was feeling lost, lacking in some direction.
    Althea told me upon scrutiny that my back might need protection.
    I told althea that treachery was tearing me limb from limb.
    Althea told me better cool down boy, settle back, easy jim.”
    “There are things you can replace, and others you cannot.
    The time has come to weigh those things.
    This space is getting hot, you know this space is getting hot.”
    The Strait of Hormuz is not straight.
    Yashua was a Pices.

  252. progress2conserve December 27, 2011 at 11:05 pm #

    “This is something that I have pointed out here over & over. But know one pays any attention.”
    -dee-
    You’ve got that right, Dee.
    The whole place has gone stoopid this week.
    I’m looking for POSITIVES about immigration that don’t involve:
    1. Economic growth
    2. Moral Platitudes
    3. Ethnic dining and ethnic entertainment
    I don’t consider wage stagnation due to H1B immigration to be a POSITIVE – I consider it a NEGATIVE. Apparently the difference in a positive and a negative is too nuanced for you and WageL, or something.
    And it’s not worth the effort to explain it.
    To hell with all of this.

  253. wagelaborer December 27, 2011 at 11:07 pm #

    Again you are mixing up the interests of the 1% with the interests of the 99%.
    Depressing the wages of US citizens is NOT a negative to the 1%, it is their goal.
    Wages have decreased since the 70s, while the wealth of the 1% has increased.
    The plan is to lower the wages of US citizens until we are “competitive” with the lowest paid workers in the world.
    I don’t understand why you can’t understand this.

  254. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 11:12 pm #

    He’s an interesting character – he offends everyone some of the time. But ultimately he’s with the Christian Zionists in their worship of Israel as the Incarnate God – not Christ. He has been called an “anti-semite” (utterly meaningless word) because he hasn’t towed the line perfectly like say John Hagee. But it doesn’t change his basically mad foreign policy belief – which make him an ally of the sinister Neo Cons.

  255. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 11:18 pm #

    Nonsense? You don’t belief in the power of habit? Guess you don’t believe in karma either. Some Buddhist.
    I don’t say change is impossible – especialy for an individual. But it is difficult. That you underestimate the difficulty just says that you haven’t changed yourself.

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  256. wagelaborer December 27, 2011 at 11:19 pm #

    I guess you never noticed that antisoak is a john bircher, through and through.
    His astounding claims come from the fringe right, and are not grounded to reality.
    You are right that the Founding Fathers were liberals and were trying to establish a country in which laws and not men, ruled.
    It’s not working out so well for them. Or us.

  257. charliefoxtrot December 27, 2011 at 11:23 pm #

    did anyone occupy wal-mart this week? it sure seems they are the poster children for the inequality- and i bet ol’ sam is rolling in his grave- wasn t he all for “buy american”?

  258. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 11:25 pm #

    Good point. I can only say that the more intelligent the person or race, the more capacity it has for good OR evil. Power or Capacity are in themselves, neutral. When development is healthy, morality keeps pace with power, intelligence, and technology. Unfortuantely there are the psychopaths and the mad scientist types whose IQ is far ahead of their morality – if it exists at all. And then there are true believers like Wage who substitute insande ideologies for religion. Political Correctness is in itself a Cult with many true believers who reject out of hand any suggestion that all races may not be equal. You seem to be in this category. You would love to torture people like me to death. You are one twisted sister.

  259. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 11:34 pm #

    Liberals? Huh? Do you realize that the meaning of words sometimes change over time? Liberals of the 1950’s would be consider far right Conservatives now. And the Founding Fathers would be considered – correctly – as Fasicsts.

  260. k-dog December 27, 2011 at 11:36 pm #

    The commodification of labor in unrestrained global corporate capitalism. Corporations lobby for employment policies which give them the lowest cost labor. People don’t matter in their equation. Calls to fill an imaginary labor shortage by importing new citizens never stop even in the face of layoffs and massive unemployment. Americans it seems are not educated enough, they tend to be overqualified or uneducated depending on current corporate need.
    Current priorities do not serve man. Current priorities are immoral and unsustainable. If priorities do not change our people will perish. In the race to the bottom we may be the first to go.

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  261. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 11:38 pm #

    That is the Communist Goal – to level the world. Except for the Party Bosses who will live in luxury beyond the dreams of avarice. And many of them will turn out to be the same Multi-Billionaires that we have now – like Soros. Fooling people like you is like taking candy from a baby.

  262. charliefoxtrot December 27, 2011 at 11:45 pm #

    no offense, but that isn t their fault…not saying their ideals were perfect by any stretch; but We The People have shirked our responsibilities ever since…i mean it s no secret that the elites have been raping our planet & our people since long before 1776…! i just hope it doesn t take too many kids getting killed while screaming in english to open the soldier s minds to the reality they will be trying to enforce

  263. Solar Guy December 27, 2011 at 11:45 pm #

    Had ~100 wonderful people over for our Christmas Eve Party and it was Amazing! Then my Dad and I installed a Solar System on my gorgeous $5k house on Christmas Day! Changing the World one panel at a time…
    Cheers ClusterFuckers!

  264. ABSALOM December 27, 2011 at 11:46 pm #

    AT no point have I ever argued that all races are equal.NEVER.
    In fact, you big phony, that very idea is ANTITHETICAL to Evolutionary Theory. Further, the word Evolution is diametric in meaning to the word Egalitarian. You and your pet Blumpkin, E, have invented this Egalitarian position to suit your own purposes. You’re arguing against yourself, Vlad; you’re embarrassing yourself too.
    ===========================================
    You would love to torture people like me to death.
    ============================================
    Every once in awhile you come close to opening our eyes, don’tcha? I’m gonna git ya boy.
    ABSALOM

  265. Vlad Krandz December 27, 2011 at 11:51 pm #

    Yes, Religion means to bind. So bind to what if there is no God? Likewise, Yoga means Union or to Yoke. But to what? Buddhists substitute the Concept of Void for God and pray to the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas instead of praying to God or gods.

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  266. IxNoMor December 27, 2011 at 11:51 pm #

    OMFG! How did the discussion on this site, this week, degenerate so rapidly and vapidly, into racism and religious nonsense? Does anyone even remember the primary topic material? I do – ethereal, unlimited, digital-press, fiat, bailout money at 0% interest to the *GLOBAL* banksters. I actually saw a *bullet* on Bloomberg yesterday about Brazil printing up 600 million reais for some bank/bailout (WTF?!?)…
    And now, we have someone talking about the positive spin from Glenn Beck? Yes, I know, some poasters here are old-timers, and some are new (Absolom/dale – how many aliases/sock puppets do these guys employ. Aside – I find Absolom to be Tsa-Tsa on meds, with a new bent towards Asokan/Vlad psychosis). And now P2C is saying the *SAME EXACT THINGS* Q used to (in addition to his tired-out immigration trolls).
    I poasted some time back (4 months?) thinking many of the aliases here were sock puppets from the same puppet-master, but now almost *all* of them seem to be one in the same *noise* (and Eleuthero, who used to be a sane voice in the noise, now embraces the Vlad/P2C conundrum). Certain characters seem to be absorbing degenerate traits of others, or perhaps there is a serious multiple-personality here…
    Do I really need to discuss the master-debater Soker (the guy who will, and does, argue both sides of every argument)? I mean, really – 2 months ago he’s moving to the Tejas border, right alongside a river, constructing his adobe mud-hut and babbling his same-old counter-delusions. 2 months later, it’s too cold at the Tejas/Mejico border (LOL!!! rIIIght), and he’s in the Amazon Rainforest for months/years, with his best friends, juicing mangos…
    I suspect that this site’s discussion board has been taken over by *6 fig govt stalkers*. Infiltrated, to be sure. Lots of plagiarism that plays for intellect. Debunkers, agents, disinformants – take your pick.
    I think I now know what drove Tripp away. So unfortunate, but when the US Govt/Homeland Security hires literally millions upon millions to spy (on US citizens), what should we have expected? These guys have too much idle time on their hands!!!

  267. Vlad Krandz December 28, 2011 at 12:04 am #

    Now you’re talkin punk. The Absalom Race is the lowest of all.

  268. ABSALOM December 28, 2011 at 12:06 am #

    Fair enough. I did get a little carried away with the vitriol toward Vlad. It was just so fun though. But the gut check was needed. And yes I am a government infiltrator. Ya caught me, Watson. Great deductive abilities by the way.
    DONE,
    ABSALOM

  269. Vlad Krandz December 28, 2011 at 12:07 am #

    Look the whole peak oil thing has been talked to death. Now it’s time to talk about other things like how many Negroes it take to change a flourescent light bulb.

  270. Mike Moskos December 28, 2011 at 12:18 am #

    Vlad, from the research I’ve read, young black men masturbate half as much as young white men, and spend half as much time watching pornography as white men. Hypersexual blacks may be the stereotype, but it is probably not reality.

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  271. anti soak December 28, 2011 at 12:22 am #

    OK, ill reply to:
    ‘His astounding claims come from the fringe right, and are not grounded to reality.’
    Ya mean like the connections from the Stalinist to the Rosenbergs?
    And from Ethels 2 kids to Mumias spawn?
    Those kind of ‘unrealities’?

  272. wagelaborer December 28, 2011 at 12:30 am #

    Um, yeah, for starters.

  273. asoka. December 28, 2011 at 12:32 am #

    Caught me, too.
    I am really a government spy being paid 6 figures to read all your comments. LOL!
    Oh, and I’m not Black, I’m not in South America. I really do believe in baby Jesus and daddy God. Never got a vasectomy. Not retired. Not living on $1,000 a month. Not a pacifist. Not green. Just spying on all of you. We have your real names and addresses and our FEMA concentration camps are almost ready. LOL!
    You got me, Ixnomor.
    Fucktard.

  274. wagelaborer December 28, 2011 at 12:33 am #

    Thank you, asoka, for bringing facts to the argument.

  275. wagelaborer December 28, 2011 at 12:39 am #

    I’m not blaming them, CFT.
    As Ben Franklin said to the concerned citizen, who asked what sort of plan they had come up with,
    “A republic, ma”m, if you can keep it”.
    We haven’t. But history is never over.
    And I am working on improving conditions on this planet.

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  276. jim e December 28, 2011 at 12:41 am #

    Approximately 17 people die each year in America as a result of snake bites.
    Women hate snakes.
    Approximately 50,000 people die each year in America in automobile accidents.
    Women love cars.
    When women wear helmets while riding in cars… I will wear one while riding on my bicycle.
    A man on a multi-geared (not to be confused with a SS or fixie) bicycle is more efficient than a bird in flight.
    Oh to live in the Heart of Dixie where you can survive a winter without a fire and you can ride a bicycle in all four seasons. A land so beautiful it was named after french money.

  277. asoka. December 28, 2011 at 12:45 am #

    You’re welcome, Wage. I’m happy bring facts to the table.
    I know we don’t agree on some things, but I always appreciate your posts.
    BTW, haven’t women’s real wages (adjusted for inflation) gone up since the 70s, at least more than men’s?

  278. IxNoMor December 28, 2011 at 12:48 am #

    “Now it’s time to talk about other things like how many Negroes it take to change a flourescent light bulb.”
    Don’t you mean a diode bulb? They use the same energy as flourescents, basically, but they have advantages. They last *FOREVER*, they instantly turn on, and some of them are *DIMMABLE*.
    *INFESTED*!!! And here I am, feeding the trolls!!!
    And I must confess, or apologize, for prior troll-feedings… x.x

  279. wagelaborer December 28, 2011 at 12:48 am #

    Personally, I don’t have a dog in that fight.
    Well, I do, but I realize that it’s all bullshit. I have a 401K, because I was pressured into it, but I don’t expect it to make me rich when I retire, for pete’s sake. I’m not stupid.
    It’s time to think outside the capitalist box that we are forced by peer pressure, and occasional brutal repression, to reduce ourselves to.
    This is an interesting talk by a man who has been working on building alternative structures to vicious corporate capitalism for many years.
    http://www.commondreams.org/video/2011/12/17
    Those interested in the Rust Belt will find what Cleveland is doing to be of interest. ProCon will find his remarks on overpopulation to be of interest.
    Those concerned with peak oil will find his remarks on localization to be of interest.

  280. ak December 28, 2011 at 12:54 am #

    To illustrate how radically different are the US ‘persons’ from the inhabitants of N Korea, USA Today just published this survey of the most admired people in 2011.
    Care to guess here first without looking? Top ten men and women separately.

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  281. IxNoMor December 28, 2011 at 12:56 am #

    “You got me, Ixnomor.
    Fucktard.”
    Asoka == Tsa-Tsa? Hehe.
    Was I wrong, when I watched your migration to the Tejax border 2 months ago? Was I wrong, when 2 days later you were a full-fledged Brazilian, juicing mangos?
    As I said before (months ago?), I hope your (clearcut) rainforest land hasn’t been leached, trampled to concrete, and your nearby river *SILTED*. I know not who lives there – I’d suspect no one, as it’s almost impossible now, with the MICKEY-D/BURGER KING chattle destruction…
    *INFESTED*!!! I hope they pay you 6-fig-govt-stalkaz enough. Is *6-figures* enough?!…

  282. wagelaborer December 28, 2011 at 12:57 am #

    Well, you’re better at googling then I am.
    Wages as a whole have gone down. Since women’s wages were lower than men’s in the 70s, and the wage gap has slightly decreased, I guess you could spin it that women’s wages have gone up.
    But I wouldn’t.

  283. wagelaborer December 28, 2011 at 1:02 am #

    There are 7 billion people on this planet.
    That means there are 3 1/2 billion women.
    You are confident that all of those 3 1/2 women hate snakes and love cars?
    Or are you just an idiot?

  284. IxNoMor December 28, 2011 at 1:07 am #

    “It’s time to think outside the capitalist box”
    Hehe, Alex Ansary (Outside the Box – public TV)? I was tuning into him, before he even knew what his agenda was. He got eaten alive by the capitalists/agents. Dissent is no option – it is especially discouraging that we even argue about something so obvious. Words constantly escape me now – I don’t have the *tools* of the trade, I s’pose.
    I never meant to be in that trade. I tried to do my part. I went without a vehicle for 8 years. I went without hot water for 3 years. I went without AC, and only heated to 58-60’F in the winter. None of it means anything now (*EVER*), as P2C’s exponential (immigrant) rat-breeders do 2x as much damage *NOW*, as I could do 2 decades ago…
    Time to walk around aimlessly with a cell phone (without batteries!)…

  285. IxNoMor December 28, 2011 at 1:12 am #

    “Approximately 50,000 people die each year in America in automobile accidents.”
    That’s why I like to call them (cars), “2-ton-death-metal-coffins.” If’n you hop a ride in one, you really shouldn’t be either surprised, or shocked, should you or you passengers get maimed/*DIE*.

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  286. IxNoMor December 28, 2011 at 1:24 am #

    “Fair enough. I did get a little carried away with the vitriol toward Vlad. It was just so fun though. But the gut check was needed. And yes I am a government infiltrator. Ya caught me, Watson. Great deductive abilities by the way.”
    Any denials of Tsa-Tsa origins? Or meds that *cured* you, turning you into a Vlad/Soker sociopath?
    You said a few things that made sense, but most of it was *VITRIOL*. Very much Tsa-Tsa. And the other things seemed very schizo to me (maybe just me)… I mean, very Asoka/Vlad-ish…

  287. IxNoMor December 28, 2011 at 1:25 am #

    If those meds cured you, let me know the names of them – I’m always interested in *OPENING* my mind!!!

  288. jim e December 28, 2011 at 1:25 am #

    No, I am the dotted line southern dumbass, and you can fill me in with whatever you like! HAPPY NEW YEAR 2012!

  289. San Jose Mom 51 December 28, 2011 at 1:26 am #

    My kids took dance and piano from Russians. My friend swears by her kid’s Russian violin teacher.
    I think the difference is that they command the respect of their pupils and they don’t put up with a kid who doesn’t practice. I recall Anna Trebunskaya once yelling at my son, “This would never happen in Russia.”

  290. vnrwandkhb December 28, 2011 at 1:47 am #

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  291. IxNoMor December 28, 2011 at 1:50 am #

    My kids took tap dance, violin, and mental discipline exercises from Alpha Centauris!!!
    Oh, yeah, they gunna *RULE* (my kids – not the alphas!!!)!!!
    C wut I did there? Bwahaha!

  292. Ixnei December 28, 2011 at 2:06 am #

    “ethereal, unlimited, digital-press, fiat, bailout money at 0% interest to the *GLOBAL* banksters.”
    You fucking sock puppet! I suppose you expect someone to explain to you how debt can be made into *collateralized debt obligations*?
    You are a moron, kl00bie, douche-bag fuck-wit. (not exactly what we were looking for, but *extraordinary*!!!)
    Haha, sock puppets *abound*. There is no discussion here anymore. That’s my belief – it is nothing but commoditized aggregation. I.E. *WALL OF SPAM*. 6969, do your due diligence!!!
    *INFESTED*!!!

  293. rqojantifz December 28, 2011 at 2:22 am #

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  294. jim e December 28, 2011 at 2:33 am #

    Where’s Rico!

  295. jim e December 28, 2011 at 2:53 am #

    “And I will cause hostility between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring. He will strike your head, and you will strike his heel.” yea I’m good on the snake…” and I will go double on the cars”

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  296. IxNoMor December 28, 2011 at 2:58 am #

    “I suppose you expect someone to explain to you how debt can be made into *collateralized debt obligations*?”
    I suppose you expect me to do all of your *HOMEWORK*. OK. However, I can’t explain how they make a silk purse out of a sow’s *A$$*!!!
    I’m certain some of your sock puppets can explain it to you *in detail*. If not, *regardless*.
    Things will start to sink in. Like the FEMA camps. Are they real? Is that cookery?
    What is there to fear? Hehe! Why fear? Stick your head in the sand. The DOW is certain to *grow* beyond belief! And here you didn’t vest yourself!!!
    Foolish fool, buying gold, silver and copper. And you didn’t bother with ETF’s? HAHAH! GL burying all that *copper*… No one will find it, right?
    And the biggest fool of them all, not buying into those I-Bonds. How *LUDICROUS*!!! Now it seems too late, huh (-2.7% inflation that year)? Why didn’t you buy McD’s, Cat, Micro$ – and get 3% dividends?!…
    I mean, sh!t – I eat that toxic McD’s slop morning, noon, and *NIGHT*, 24/7!!! Nothing liek a few quarter pounders, or big macz… YUMMY!!!

  297. jim e December 28, 2011 at 3:01 am #

    “Japan and China sittin’ in a tree”

  298. eljxanjgil December 28, 2011 at 3:09 am #

    ??????????????????????????SAN GA KI TA???????????????????????????????????????????????????GA?????DA??

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  299. xhalor December 28, 2011 at 3:19 am #

    JC! M’man.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq-qBmHe4_c&feature=related

  300. jim e December 28, 2011 at 3:25 am #

    Cuttin’ us out of a lot of money.

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  301. jim e December 28, 2011 at 3:30 am #

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNIyvdcLlKg

  302. xhalor December 28, 2011 at 3:44 am #

    You know what else doesn’t happen in Russia? Toilet paper. I had a Latvian boss recently. He told me that when he was in school to study computer science, he didn’t see an acutal terminal for three years. Blackboards and chalk (he is not an old man, but not particularly young). I told him that I had “visited” his country. Where I was travelling, they had cell phones but no sewers.

  303. Nathan December 28, 2011 at 3:55 am #

    Nice comments about the American Frontier closing around 100 years ago. I’m actually reading Walter Prescott Webb’s “The Great Frontier” right now, after having it recommended to me by Herrick Kimball aka The Deliberate Agrarian (http://thedeliberateagrarian.blogspot.com)
    For those not familiar with Webb or this book, it was published in 1952 and postulates that from AD 1500 to 1890 western Europe experienced a massive boom in land and resources via their newly discovered and almost uninhabited frontier lands in North and South America, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. When the frontiers closed, e.g. reached saturation with migrants and were put under agriculture and resource extraction, this set the scene for the 20th century wars that were bigger than any before them. Webb predicted in the 50s that western civilisation would need to learn to live in contraction rather than just boom times and that this would require complete overhauls of the legal system, politics and people’s expectations and identity.
    As we stand poised on the brink of 2012, visions of apocalypse dance through my head. I hear Walmart has 2012 Mayan Calendars going for $9.99. Grab yours now!

  304. etpcanrytn December 28, 2011 at 4:22 am #

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  305. xhalor December 28, 2011 at 4:44 am #

    Oh damn, I’m on the left coast. Everyone is in stasis. I was kinda hoping that some commie (small c), leftist, ABC News, uppity, NFL-franchise-buyin’ cyborg contrarist could provide me with the bleeding edge stats of toilet paper productivity in Mother Russia in the hope of sparking some…controversy. Maybe another day.
    Happy New Year Motherfuckers.

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  306. bubbleheadMarc December 28, 2011 at 7:33 am #

    Speaking of both immigrants, and of how the native born Americans are supposedly resistant to education and trades training, isn’t it ironic that these DPs [displaced persons] typically either cannot speak English at all to any appreciable extent, or if they can speak broken English it is with an accent so heavy as to be nearly impenetrable. And these people are considered superior employees by the robber barons who want them permitted to move here. In other words bullshit. Immigration of the legal variety is little more than importing unemployment to keep the workers in line. And then of course we’re all expected to work for virtually no money in order to prove to prospective future employers that we’re not lazy since they won’t hire anyone who’s currently unemployed. Admittedly, there are places where I’d be the one with the bad accent, like England. Once in a bar in Gibraltar this idiotic British sailor sitting next to me at the bar informed me that I didn’t speak “English”. I was wearing a wool plaid shirt jacket with a Canadian maple leaf on it and could’ve bailed out by saying “god save the queen I’m really a Canuck”. But no, I came clean and admitted “you’re right, I speak American not English” which seemed to satisfy the little limey bastard. How could someone like T.S. Eliot, from St. Louis, end up making ludicrous statements such as “in politics a royalist, in religion an Anglo-Catholic”? And something else I forgot. I would say “an Episcopalian suffering from a terminal case of over-preciousness and a tory boot licker!” We’re all doomed. By all means lets keep importing more unemployment, after all, jobs are for suckers.

  307. asoka. December 28, 2011 at 8:34 am #

    Thanks, Wage. I’ve got a natural Boolean rhythm. 🙂

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  311. Widespreadpanic7 December 28, 2011 at 9:17 am #

    I’m wondering about the tens of millions of Americans crowded into the shopping malls in the days after Christmas. How much stuff do they need too buy? When is enough, enough? Also, where is the money coming from to pay for all this sh-t? I hear how stressed financially the ‘average American’ is, that real estate value has dropped yet again, how hard it is to find a job, but people are in the malls spending money like BubbleheadMarc on his first liberty call in 3 months in Toulon, France. It doesn’t add up.
    –WSP7

  312. Widespreadpanic7 December 28, 2011 at 9:47 am #

    BBM you’re right about TS Elliot he come across as an elitist, arrogant prick, pretty much my opinion of all the Expat writers of that era, starting with Henry James.
    –WSP7

  313. dale December 28, 2011 at 10:22 am #

    I don’t say change is impossible – especialy for an individual. But it is difficult.
    ————————————-
    As I suspected. It’s not right to judge people individually, just by groups. Ergo….by extension, if one black is a criminal then all blacks are criminals.
    Face it Vlad, when it comes to race you are completely irrational, championing ideas even you must contort yourself into a philosophical pretzel to defend.
    There is only one way to judge people, by an individual person’s prior actions, with the awareness that change is possible. In your case, you should be hoping that change is possible.

  314. dale December 28, 2011 at 10:27 am #

    Buddhists substitute the Concept of Void for God and pray to the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas instead of praying to God or gods.
    —————————————-
    This is an excellent example of your capacity to read, but not to understand. You haven’t the slightest idea what ’emptiness’ means, or any hope of that without extensive meditation.
    Furthermore, Buddhists don’t need a substitute for God…..if you need an imaginary friend I have no problem with that. Carry on.

  315. k-dog December 28, 2011 at 10:56 am #

    “native born Americans are supposedly resistant to education and trades training, isn’t it ironic that these DPs [displaced persons] typically either cannot speak English at all to any appreciable extent, or if they can speak broken English it is with an accent so heavy as to be nearly impenetrable”
    There are plenty of native born workers who are highly skilled, well educated and who are highly motivated with a good work ethic. There are also new citizens who are also highly skilled, well educated and who also are motivated and have good work ethics. Difficulty new citizens have in speaking is understandable since they come from somewhere else.
    The supply of foreign workers totally dwarfs the unemployed domestic supply. The huge difference in this ratio makes finding qualified foreign workers very very easy.
    Temp agencies do employment screening and ‘displaced persons’ are flown in on 747s easily and cheaply.
    From a business standpoint there is no reason not to hire new citizens in preference over native born employees. If laws do not prevent or regulate employment of foreign born workers then business hire them, social contract be dammed. Business will also hire foreign born workers in preference to native workers if laws which prevent or regulate the practice exist but are not enforced. It is not hard to justify when corporations are legally bound to operate in the best interests of their shareholders and not the best interests of the citizens of the country they operate in.
    Getting nit-picky over accents and qualifications misses the point and plays right into the hands of the ‘man’. There are more fundamental issues of individual and social rights to consider.
    Do corporations and businesses have any social responsibilities at all and if so what are they?
    Thousand word essays could define the social responsibilities of corporations or we can simply define their social responsibilities by laws and enforce them. It is not a hard problem to solve if the will of the people and not narrow special interest controls the government.
    Not the red pill, not the blue pill; k-dog for president. K-dog will bite the ‘man’.

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  316. anti soak December 28, 2011 at 11:21 am #

    You meant American Gals right?
    Wage has been testy lately.
    re: ‘Or are you just an idiot?’
    No She is.
    She also [months ago[] denied Communist despots

  317. anti soak December 28, 2011 at 11:22 am #

    [woops..hit wrong key…]
    Despots killed oh about 100,000,000.

  318. anti soak December 28, 2011 at 11:25 am #

    ‘Temp agencies do employment screening and ‘displaced persons’ are flown in on 747s easily and cheaply’
    Indian medical docs are also flow in.
    Theres a place in Elsegundo that emplpoys 100-200.
    It preps Indian docs to pass the board.
    Get this, they all pass the board.
    Our local JC got rid of the blue collar departments.
    Not prestigious enough.

  319. dale December 28, 2011 at 11:28 am #

    BBM you’re right about TS Elliot he come across as an elitist, arrogant prick, pretty much my opinion of all the Expat writers of that era, starting with Henry James.
    ————————————
    If anything can be considered foretelling the downfall of the U.S., then it must certainly be this championing of the ignorant and stupid. Anyone smarter or more sensitive then I, well….he must be an elitist?
    While both parties are hopelessly venal and corrupt, the Republican party will certainly deserve a larger than normal share of responsibility for our failure by making stupid fashionable.

  320. k-dog December 28, 2011 at 11:30 am #

    “I don’t like spiders and snakes
    And that ain’t what it takes to love me
    Like I want to be loved by you” – Jim Stafford

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  321. Widespreadpanic7 December 28, 2011 at 11:31 am #

    It looks like whitey is being phased out, incrementally, slowly, by degrees (for now). But wait ’till the day comes when we are a proven demographic minority here in the USA. That’s when the fun is really going to start.
    –WSP7

  322. lsjogren December 28, 2011 at 11:32 am #

    “I reckon it will take a few weeks, perhaps through the whole winter, for a sense of swindle to set in among the rooked.”
    Most of the consequences of the financial meltdown have not been felt and will be felt only in coming years.
    I am talking about the massive inflation that is coming.
    Right now who has felt the consequences of the financial bubble? A few people who directly got swindled like the victims of MF Global. Are the unemployed victims? Not really, because their lack of work is due to the fact that in our economic bubbles we had millions of jobs which weren’t “genuine”, for example building a glut of houses beyond what are needed.
    The primary fallout of the financial bubble has not yet occurred. It is the massive inflation that will be experienced in coming years.

  323. Widespreadpanic7 December 28, 2011 at 11:35 am #

    K-dog, many writers in Elliot’s era stayed home and didn’t sneer at the USA from England & France, then high-tail it out of there when the World Wars began.
    Maybe you’re an elitist yourself, smarter than everybody else, who knows?
    –WSP7

  324. lsjogren December 28, 2011 at 11:38 am #

    To clarify the statement about unemployment:
    As Peter Schiff has commented, the recession isn’t the disease, it is the cure.
    The disease was the financial bubble. Unemployment was artificiallly low because we had millions of people doing jobs that only existed because of the massive distortions created in the financial system by the real estate bubble.
    Now the economy is more “normal” (e.g., we aren’t building superfluous homes), and we now have a better view of what the true unemployement rate is, which unfortunately is tragically high.

  325. k-dog December 28, 2011 at 11:39 am #

    The primary fallout of the financial bubble has not yet occurred. It is the massive inflation that will be experienced in coming years.
    Like a frog in a pot but I don’t think we need to be waiting years to experience it, we already are.
    How much is a loaf of bread these days?

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  326. MissusQuiche December 28, 2011 at 11:40 am #

    On my friend’s recommendation I’ve given CFN a few weeks look expecting to be dazzled with “brilliant” commentary but found it wanting. This morning’s conversations, Exhibit A. I especially enjoy the Korean(?) clothing ads and Dale and Vlad trying to out-buddhist one another.
    And so I bid you all a Happy New Year and a fond adieu.

  327. lsjogren December 28, 2011 at 11:48 am #

    asoka
    “I offered to never post again on open borders, if you never again posted on racist organizations like FAIR and NumbersUSA. You declined the offer.”
    asoka, only radical leftist hate groups call groups like FAIR racist.

  328. Widespreadpanic7 December 28, 2011 at 11:50 am #

    Theodore Roosevelt authored 40 books in New York, Dakota and Washington, and Owen Wister wrote his classics in his native South. To name just two.
    —WSP7

  329. k-dog December 28, 2011 at 11:52 am #

    Dochaknow Asoka is da ‘man’
    😉

  330. wagelaborer December 28, 2011 at 12:27 pm #

    Well, I like snakes and hate cars, so I disprove your hypothesis.
    And I refuse to fall for your southern bait. Your delusions of persecution are exaggerated.

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  331. anti soak December 28, 2011 at 12:38 pm #

    Somali refugees are now Gangsters in US Midwest…
    how about this?
    ‘Paul Ramses, arguably Iceland’s most famous asylum seeker, has announced that he is running for president of Iceland.
    Ramses fled to Iceland from Kenya in January 2008, seeking asylum here. When he was deported to Italy, separating him from his wife and newborn child, his case drew national attention, and pressure was put on the government for his return. He was eventually brought back to Iceland, and a few months ago was granted citizenship.
    Ramses apparently is taking his new home to heart. While elections are still two years away, that isn’t stopping Ramses from getting a head start.
    Speaking to the magazine Séð og Heyrt, Ramses says that he feels sorry for Prime Minister Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, saying that the Independence Party had 18 years to ruin the country, and people are angry that she hasn’t fixed everything in two years. He intends to live in Iceland for the rest of his life, and in following Icelandic politics, decided to run for president.
    “I’ve already written my acceptance speech,” he says in part. “That time will undoubtedly come.”
    He added that he intends to personally increase the republic by having ten more children. “I’m African,” he said. “I want 12 children. So I have ten to go.”
    If you wish to show your support for Paul Ramses’ presidential aspirations, or just get to know the guy better, you can find him on Facebook. ‘

  332. Vlad Krandz December 28, 2011 at 1:04 pm #

    Elliot warned the West of the growing Jewish Power and its disastrous effects on our culture. But we didn’t listen and when people who had spoken out had to shut up, Elliot shut up. A good poet and essayist, but not a hero. The hero Ezra Pound ended up in a cage and then the loony bin for having the guts to speak the obvious.

  333. Vlad Krandz December 28, 2011 at 1:09 pm #

    Former SNL writer drinks anti-freeze and dies. Couldn’t take the coming “Fascism” (his word), Depression worse than the 30’s, and Wars for Israel in the Middle East. His Father fought in WW2 and he was very proud of him. Couldn’t stand the idea of America being in the wrong. Well at least he got that much right. But did he have to kill himself? And anti-freeze? A very unpleasant way to go. Was it really suicide?
    http://revoltoftheplebs.wordpress.com/2011/12/27/snl-writer-who-committed-suicide-was-a-strong-critic-of-israel-and-fan-of-what-really-happened/

  334. charliefoxtrot December 28, 2011 at 1:18 pm #

    little late for me; immediately following the movie, i went and found a red AND blue pill, so as to be able to slip seamlessly back and forth from one to another reality…works for me…and no, i don t mean political badges…anyway, i ve always seen corporations as the main reason so many people allow the pillage- it is a paycheck, after all…i think the whole structure needs regulation and revamp, both in how companies are owned, and operated: the health of our planet should be taken into account, as well as the impact on employees of said companies…not saying these are all of the answers, but they should be looked at…oh, and the waltons are rich enough; wal-mart should be nationalized, and brought back to american manufacture…which itself needs to have controls for environmental impact

  335. charliefoxtrot December 28, 2011 at 1:26 pm #

    i suppose i support the occupy stance, in that we earthlings just need to start over, as it were, and “fix” everyrhing- we ve let things get so fubar d that addressing any one aspect is too little, too late…so the real solutions will have to come from the top down: we need real leadership- k-dog for president!

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  336. DeeJones December 28, 2011 at 1:29 pm #

    “I’m wondering about the tens of millions of Americans crowded into the shopping malls in the days after Christmas. How much stuff do they need too buy? When is enough, enough? Also, where is the money coming from to pay for all this sh-t? ”
    WSP7 – I bet that if you stood at the end of those checkout lines you would see all that ‘stuff’ being paid for with plastic. And, if you took a peek on those wallets & purses, you would probably see at least 5-6 credit cards, and probably each one of them is either totally, or very close to being MAXED out. They also probably have lines of credit of at least $10k+ or more.
    Now, after all that, how do you think the goodies are being paid for? Oh, and the holders of all that plastic are probably juggling payments AND just making the min payment possible.
    Geez… like some other things, this has been pointed out to YOU before. Are you just too dense?
    ;/

  337. Vlad Krandz December 28, 2011 at 1:30 pm #

    Your previous post makes no sense at all so I’m tempted to ignore it. Suffice to say that although I’m sure you could speak learnedly about co-dependent origination, you can’t connect it to obvious everyday things like breaking habits and observing in others how strong the power of the past really is.
    And this post is a humdinger too. Dale, the void is too impersonal for most people – no not just Westerners. The biggest form of Buddhism is the worship of Amdida. People come with their problems and ask for help – just as Christians do to Jesus. God, don’t be such a prick. Btw, the Cult of Amida (Avalokesvara in Tibet I believe) is sanctioned by some of the greatest Sages, particularly of the Zen School. Although accredited Zen Masters, they were disatisfied with their degree of Enlightenment and wished to go to the Pure Land and directly associate with Amida to complete it.
    The paths of Zen, Mahamudra, and Dzog Chen are far too steep for most people. Of course being Dale you believe yourself emminently qualified. I would expect nothing more/less from you. The greatest Sages are willing to humble themselves but I mean they’re not Dale.
    Here’s a little hint from India: most of the great practioners of the non-dual lineages were also devotees or bhaktas of the personal god. As one explained it, to the extent I still feel myself separate, to that extent I still worship. Not a bad precept, eh? Or are you and your Buddhist hero Alan in the highest state at all times?
    If you can’t do bhakti, you have no place in Tantra – be it Tibetan Buddhist or Hindu. Guru Yoga and the Yogas of the Deities are the basics of your School. Yes, the Deities are dissolved into Emptiness but so are you Dale, so are you. And first you have to generate them – a big problem for an Ego like you. You don’t want to share your consciousness like that. You’re missing the boat. Your Dzog Chen is a way of avoidance of all the prerequisites – as you admitted last week.

  338. charliefoxtrot December 28, 2011 at 1:32 pm #

    …and while you re at it, how ’bout taking a page out of gold sack s book, and appointing some congress critturs (and bitches) to live in their various districts, for a change, and listen to their constituents, for some hope, who can get a real sense of what needs to be done, and in what order…see what i did there…^?

  339. trippticket December 28, 2011 at 1:32 pm #

    Hey POC. Hope you and the rest of the gang had a great holiday. Just sent an email your way, to the Walker account, and will be looking forward to a reply. Cheers!
    Tripp

  340. DeeJones December 28, 2011 at 1:32 pm #

    ”m looking for POSITIVES about immigration that don’t involve:
    1. Economic growth
    2. Moral Platitudes
    3. Ethnic dining and ethnic entertainment
    I don’t consider wage stagnation due to H1B ”
    Oh, NOW you tell us you are looking for the +.
    Well, I’ll go with #3 above. Bite me….
    ;]

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  341. Vlad Krandz December 28, 2011 at 1:40 pm #

    So what do we do? Just accept it or fight? What would the Founders do?
    And let’s face it, based on what’s going on in Europe and America, were we really right about fighting those wars in Europe? Weren’t we really fighting against Western Culture? I meaning “the Allies” have proceeded to end Western Culture by the changing the population. Slow mo ethnic cleansing. That’s what happens when you have a purely economic approach to life – sweetened by a good dose of self hatred and ideological craziness like Communism and Feminism.

  342. k-dog December 28, 2011 at 2:18 pm #

    Government exists to stop pillage and make sure social and environmentalexternalities are accounted for and proper dues collected where appropriate. There is so much more to it of course but basics have been neglected far too long.
    You said:
    the whole structure needs regulation and revamp,
    and made these three points.
    ? Change how companies are owned and operated.
    ? Take into account the health of our planet.
    ? The Impact of companies on employees matter.

    Three great places to start but right now not even these things are on anyone’s table. The Sustainable Canine Party will bring issues of substance like these onto our governments table. The dawn of a new populist movement has risen. Meat for everybody.
    The time to start saving humanity is now.

  343. Widespreadpanic7 December 28, 2011 at 2:24 pm #

    Ya DJ, maybe I am dense, because after near economic collapse here in 2008, and in Europe in 2011, as Ripthunder pointed out on Monday, not much seems to have changed.
    Now Iran is threatening to close down the Straits of Hormuz. If one of their land based missiles slams into a US Naval vessel there will be hell to pay.
    Despite all this, and a million other things, its still happy motoring on the interstates, and happy shopping at the mall.
    You would think that these events would be cause for some introspection amongst the population, the institutions and the media. But it hasn’t. Its just more of the same bullshit; who’s ahead in the Republican primary, what the Kardashian sisters are up to, who will make the playoffs in the NFL …
    It looks like we will have to find out about TLE the hard way, i.e., being slapped in the face by it.
    –WSP7

  344. k-dog December 28, 2011 at 2:49 pm #

    Should things progress to a k-dog for pres doghouse on the web I would include this as a link.
    Community Wealth.ORG
    Why succumb to TLE when you can kick it’s ass.

  345. dale December 28, 2011 at 3:34 pm #

    Vlad,
    Your mind slips in and out of rationality so frequently it’s absurd. You quite simply are hearing (or imaging) a number of things for which there is absolutely no proof, were never said, or for which you have utterly no knowledge.
    Trying to have a discussion with you is like trying to comb your hair in a funhouse mirror….or discussing quantum physics with a four year old. In other words….A WASTE OF MY TIME! So….you’re posts are back to the shitcan. See ya.

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  346. Widespreadpanic7 December 28, 2011 at 4:05 pm #

    “So what do we do, accept it or fight”.
    –VladK
    Vlad, fight against who? The currents of history? The FBI, ATF, US Marshals Service? They would crush you like a grape in no time flat.
    Save yourself, that’s my advice, which you pretty much have already done by moving to Idaho. You don’t have much to worry about up in that remote, mountainous, 98% white state.
    –WSP7

  347. BeantownBill December 28, 2011 at 4:09 pm #

    Here’s a new year’s resolution for CFNers: ignore the irrelevent posts. Don’t reply. Keep on topic.
    Right now I’m at 40-60 for scrolling past vs. reading. When I get over 50-50 I’m outta here for good. My time’s too valuable to waste reading about racial shit, the bad Jews and Zionists and other such absurdities. Let’s try for relevence, clear thinking and new ideas. It’s a shame that the true peak-everything, thoughtful bloggers are being drowned out by schizoid, hateful, weak-minded, site-wreckers and their alter-egos. Who said, “90% of everything is crap”? Sadly, this is being confirmed at CFN.

  348. ABSALOM December 28, 2011 at 4:24 pm #

    Bill wrote:
    Here’s a new year’s resolution for CFNers: ignore the irrelevent posts. Don’t reply. Keep on topic.
    ===========================================
    I’m in on that resolution. I’m guilty of contributing to the distractions. No more.
    ===========================================
    Bill wrote:
    It’s a shame that the true peak-everything, thoughtful bloggers are being drowned out…
    ===========================================
    Thanks for a reminder of the only reason I visited this site in the first place.
    ABSALOM

  349. ABSALOM December 28, 2011 at 4:30 pm #

    Iran is threatening to close the straight of Hormuz, probably a bluff, but a risky one in every sense. Is this the start of it Ladies and Gentlemen? Time to strengthen community ties to stave off social chaos. Precarious times indeed.
    HAPPY and HEALTHY nEw Year to all.
    ABSALOM

  350. charliefoxtrot December 28, 2011 at 4:42 pm #

    …i wasn t kidding about occupy wal-mart: just go in, and wander about randomly filling up a cart, then “decide you can t afford all this crap”…hit em where it counts, in their profit margin…

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  351. anti soak December 28, 2011 at 4:44 pm #

    8anta wore a disguise!
    Islamic honor killing in Texas: “Santa” who murdered family on Christmas morning was Muslim who didn’t like his daughter dating a non-Muslim
    Aziz Yazdanpanah, a Muslim, didn’t like his daughter’s non-Muslim boyfriend and was exhibiting stalker behavior.
    “She couldn’t date at all until she was a certain age, but when he was going to let her date she couldn’t date anyone outside of their race or religion.”
    Again and again we have seen honor killings in which fathers kill daughters who are dating non-Muslims or have supposedly besmirched the family honor by some sexual indiscretion.
    Lt. Todd Dearing says that motive isn’t important — which is generally only the case when Islam is involved.
    Motive is not important, [dumb lib].
    oblem

  352. k-dog December 28, 2011 at 4:44 pm #

    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    Try thinking of it like what has recently been discovered about human DNA. Most of the human DNA molecule seems to be wasted space. There are long stretches of nucleotides that don’t seem to code for anything and are considered to be junk.
    Take it with humor if you can and try and see it as a necessary inconvenience of free speech.
    And if you need to buy a knock off Korean handbag you know where to go.
    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  353. anti soak December 28, 2011 at 4:45 pm #

    Any idea what the clothing ads are about?
    dale n Vlad are debating, this went on alot in Tibet at monasteries.

  354. anti soak December 28, 2011 at 4:48 pm #

    ENDING THE DEBATE[S] WITH HIM..ON ALL MATTERS..
    IS THAT A PROMISE?

  355. ABSALOM December 28, 2011 at 4:51 pm #

    I’m wondering if this latest tumult in the ME isn’t going to spike oil and create a Run on Walmart, if that makes any sense. Pretty much all the candidates and pundits are beginning to whip up a frenzy. Well, maybe they’ve been slow churning it the whole time.
    I’m interested in a discussion about infrastructural impacts if there are any with insights on this. I don’t care about the politics necessarily.

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  356. BeantownBill December 28, 2011 at 5:09 pm #

    You’re welcome.

  357. BeantownBill December 28, 2011 at 5:17 pm #

    The point is, K-dog, that I don’t want to be inconvenienced; life is too short, and annoyances unnecessary.
    But here’s a thought: it must be a real bitch to read Korean if you’re dyslexic!
    For real: K-dog for president!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  358. BeantownBill December 28, 2011 at 5:53 pm #

    I lived through the Arab oil embargo of 1973. As I recall, infrastructure wasn’t affected, but there was a strain on Americans’ living routines. Now, going to fill up your gas tank takes but a few minutes, and other than complaining about the price, is a non-event. IN 1973, getting a fill-up was a time-consuming hassle. At first, you could get gas anytime you wanted, but waiting in line often took 1 or 2 hours, and sometimes the gas station ran out while you were in the middle of the line. People became cranky, then very angry. I would often drive by gas stations with their pump areas blocked off and had signs saying no more gas. Eventually, a sort of rationing took place in Massachusetts: we could only buy gas on even or odd numbered days, based on the last digit of our license plates.
    Before the crisis began, the average gas price was around $.35/gallon, but once the embargo took effect, the price shockingly surged to over $1/gallon. A few gas station operators took advantage by price-gouging. One station owner near Beacon Hill gained notoriety for charging $5/gallon, and many fools paid the price (some paid just to be able to tell their friends they paid that price).
    People had to plan their actvities around their gas tank status. I didn’t make plans too far in advance for social events I had to drive to. Other than this, life went on, albeit with a lot of discussions about what was really happening behind the scene – you know, conspiracies and stuff of that nature.
    I read somewhere on-line that 16% of the world’s oil passes through the strait of Hormuz. This is a significant percentage, but not enough to cause major changes in how Americans live their life – although if we react the same way we did in 1973, I could see gas prices tripling temporarily, out of fear, and that would lead to lifestyle changes, for sure. I also read in the same article that it’s unlikely that Iran could successfully block the entire strait, particularly when tankers begin being escorted by warships.

  359. sevenmmm December 28, 2011 at 6:22 pm #

    Did listen to the podcast with JMG, and was happy to hear about his views rather than read them! Thanks a lot.
    JHK, you had better ask JMG what magic really is before publishing your next book. You will be surprised that magic is nothing like the miracles you want to describe in the book’s title.
    Good job with the interview, I hope you get him on again soon. Thanks.

  360. charliefoxtrot December 28, 2011 at 6:59 pm #

    ~shudder~ i ve just had my first experience of being banned from a blog; i feel just plain dirty from being a part of their group for even such a short time…anyone out there feel like giving me a quick tutorial on how to create a few bogus screen id s, in order that i might disrupt their precious circle jerk for a day or two? so you know, ‘democratic underground’ is not all that democratic after all! pretentious fucking snobs, if you ask me

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  361. ABSALOM December 28, 2011 at 7:00 pm #

    People had to plan their actvities around their gas tank status. I didn’t make plans too far in advance for social events I had to drive to. Other than this, life went on, albeit with a lot of discussions about what was really happening behind the scene – you know, conspiracies and stuff of that nature.
    ================================================
    Yes. This is exactly what I was interested in. Infrastructure impact was the wrong phrasing, perhaps possible systemic disruption is worse. Cluster Fuck is perfect. I’m wondering what an equivalent scenario would look like today. If gas averages at $3 – $3.50, the what effect will a $2.00 spike have?
    I remember people bitchin’ up a storm at $4 plus prices. I remember the strain that had on their already over stretched paychecks. I was a student then as I am now, so I’m duckin’ the effects differently than my friends with wives, girlfriends and kids to look can. I can live in a small tent if necessary. They probably would have to rely on????? So few people have prepped.
    My guess is that there’s a good chance average households will collapse at an even greater rate than they are now, while things are still hunky dory. But in terms of effects of a more systemic nature. If people suddenly have to make a decision between driving to work or buying food, something will have to give, and it’s this domino effect that I’m betting might play out this year. Sears just announced a big fire sale, and they’ve been around for better than 100 years or something. How could any number of smaller businesses survive a sudden spike in fuel costs? Is it a waste of time pondering such chaos?
    I’m convinced the government has abandoned party politics altogether and is just gearing up for the shitstorm while Joe the Plumber still worries whether his guy will get the nod or retain his seat. The media debates are about as useful as last years magazines lately.

  362. Vlad Krandz December 28, 2011 at 7:25 pm #

    Insulting me is not the same as answering me. You have no answer. I win. Again.
    If you could but see: a gracious accptance of defeat would be a manifestiation of bodhicitta. And if you could keep doing that, you might not even have to generate the Deities – or it would be within your reach of you so chose.

  363. DeeJones December 28, 2011 at 7:32 pm #

    WEll, here is someting to think about:
    Gasoline prices may rise above $4 a gallon next summer as refineries along the U. S. East Coast close, reducing fuel supply…”
    http://www.buffalonews.com/business/briefs/article687025.ece
    Hmmm…. so if the Hormuz gets closed, you may start thinking about gas in the $6-7+ range, perhaps?
    Hows that going down in the ol’ SUV that gets, what, 15mpgs?
    ;]

  364. anti soak December 28, 2011 at 8:36 pm #

    gawd…but gas in Australia has been 7$ for years?
    yes? no?

  365. anti soak December 28, 2011 at 8:36 pm #

    I was banned from TAKI MAG…
    where were you banned from?

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  366. anti soak December 28, 2011 at 8:38 pm #

    ‘of the non-dual lineages were also devotees or bhaktas of the personal …’
    Well if they are non dualists wha da ya expect?

  367. Vlad Krandz December 28, 2011 at 8:49 pm #

    Anyone watch the funeral of “Dear Leader” in North Korea? The whole country is a cult. Most of them are faking it, thankfully. But the false consciousness continues. A Nation of Dales, Turks, and Absaloms.

  368. ABSALOM December 28, 2011 at 8:55 pm #

    Dee, i think you’ve underscored a key point: there won’t be single factors escalating the crises, their will be numerous culminating influences. This is why i think the (G)overnment is in triage mode. Regardless of the party lines, no constituencies interests are being served by recent legislation. I’ve been trying to read more of the actuals bills that get passes; the language smacks of Big Brother interests, not regular folks’.
    Grazi for the link
    ABSALOM

  369. Vlad Krandz December 28, 2011 at 9:02 pm #

    Don’t understand, can you rephrase? Or was that just rhetorical? The point: that devotion is conducive to Realization. Ramana said so himself. He was a Great Devotee of Arunchala, the Holy Mountain – a physical manifestation of Shiva. He never ceased in his Devotion since he was still a man who walked around, ate, talked, etc. If he was in Nirvikalpa Samadhi all the time then you wouldn’t need to fee devotional.
    Some have talked about natural or Sahaja Samadhi which persists permanently – with just enough subject/object consciousness left to maneuver oneself around. Maybe, but it must be very rare. In any case, someone so exalted, who has transcended all need for bhakti, is not going to mock Religious people as “having invisible friends”. Sickening. Who the hell does this guy think he is? Trying to win points with the Atheists? And what does that say of him?
    Ramakrisna, the Bhakta par excellant, had another point of view. Attain the samadhi of the Divine Person and He/She (your pick!) will Themselves give you the Supreme Vision – if you still want it.
    This is pretty far from Buddhism – much farther than Advaita. But the Dalai Lama himself said that he could see that Theisms like Christianity produced extraordinary people, people with higher consciousness. He said this despite the fact that he found many aspects of Christianity strange, alien, or even incomprehensible. Now that is a Man with an open mind.

  370. vnrwandkhb December 28, 2011 at 10:09 pm #

    ???????J1?????????????????????OB??????????????????47???????NI GA NA TA?????????????GA GA?TA?21?????????KA TA???????????????GA??????????????????TA???????????“?????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????”???? ??? s???TA????????????????????????????????????????? ???????94?????????W?????????????????NI??? 1995?KA??????????????NI????96?n????????J???????????NI TA?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????TA?????N?????? [?]????

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  371. progress2conserve December 28, 2011 at 11:11 pm #

    “The plan is to lower the wages of US citizens until we are “competitive” with the lowest paid workers in the world.
    I don’t understand why you can’t understand this.”
    -wage, laboring so hard that….-
    Wage, I have to say, that of all the crazy arguments that I have had on CFN, in the past year – this one with you and DeeJ is about to set a record as the most insane, IMO.
    I am against immigration into the US, of any and all types. I am against legal immigration. I am against illegal immigration. I am against immigration that benefits the 1%. I am against immigration that harms the 99%. I am even against immigration that might BENEFIT the 99% at the EXPENSE of the 1%. I am against immigration in a way that transcends ANY simple political consideration – because I am convinced that high immigration into the US – will eventually KILL US ALL, everyone on Earth.
    I am convinced that stopping US immigration is the ONE, single – and POLITICALLY relatively EASY THING – that might solve most all other problems.
    Even absalom agrees that reducing immigration into the US is a good idea – I think. Who can be sure – with the way he parses words and phrases.
    ==================
    Dee is pretty new to CFN, Wage. You are not.
    What is wrong with you, to be thinking that I’m looking for a positive outcome for immigration into the US. There are no positive outcomes for immigration into the US.
    Except for:
    growth
    moral platitudes
    ethnic dining and entertainment.
    What else do you want me to say here, Wage?
    Because, to quote Ms. Wage L:
    “I don’t understand why you can’t understand this.”

  372. progress2conserve December 28, 2011 at 11:22 pm #

    “Oh, NOW you tell us you are looking for the +.
    Well, I’ll go with #3 above.”
    -deeJ, still going for sarcasm, I think-
    Who the hell knows, Dee. I’m quite certain that you’ve gone on record as being opposed to current high US immigration rates. Let’s go with that for now, and let the water clear a little bit.
    I’m ready to bury the hatchet here, and not in one another’s heads.
    And, as far as this lovely (lively?) sentiment:
    “Bite me….” -deeJ, to P2C-
    Well, OK, if that’s what you really want, Dee.
    Do you want to bitten gently, or with passion?
    And, how’s that Divine Inferno at the Mall coming along, BTW?

  373. progress2conserve December 28, 2011 at 11:43 pm #

    “These are the kind of suggestions for positive change thatProcon ignores in his incessant pleas for attention ..” -asoka, responding to jerry-
    Jerry – there is absolutely NOTHING WHATSOEVER in your post that argues in favor of the present high levels of immigration into the United States.
    Indeed, from your website:
    “The world is operating on a shell game mentality.”
    Movement of impoverished people INTO the United States is NOTHING, if it is not a sort of shell game.
    ===============================
    More importantly, Jerry – asoka., sometimes known as “the resident impediment” is twisting and spinning YOUR words, Jerry – to impede dialog.
    So, tell us what you think about immigration, Jerry. You may be for it or you may be against it – but asoka. has NO IDEA what you propose, from your brief post to CFN.
    So far, asoka. is the only CFN poster this week to argue, totally, in favor of US immigration.
    And he won’t give reasons. (because he can’t?)
    Except for the well known:
    1. economic growth
    2. moral platitudes*
    3. ethnic food and entertainment
    *asoka. argues that any group OPPOSED to immigration is RACIST. This is a pernicious and divisive sort of “moral platitude.”
    ====================
    and no, ixnomore, i’m not a troll. i’m a little obsessed, but that is all. the floor is open. anyone can weigh in with new ideas in favor of high rates of immigration – even a.., if he can generate a new idea.

  374. Buck Stud December 29, 2011 at 12:07 am #

    WSP,
    Who are you responding to, or are you channeling Vlad out in the wilderness? And what if you pulled up a bar stool like Norm and blurted out that comment – WTF? It reminded me of a world rthymn music festival I attended about five years ago when a Jeff Spicoli clone came up to me and approvingly announced, “Alright,a white guy”:)

  375. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 12:59 am #

    DEE has been here for years!
    Did ya hear about the African [somali] refugees in the central states that have formed gangs?
    Refugees are a problem.

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  376. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 1:23 am #

    Yeah right Bill. All Jews are good and all the things they do are good. Satisfied? Have you no shame?

  377. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 1:29 am #

    Here is Churchill’s famous article on the Jewish Leadership in Bolshevism – absolutely amazed you don’t know about it. Of course he sold out a bit later and never said another word. And that went along with his pathological hatred of Germany. To hell with the World, as long as we can get those krauts! I assume of course that you’ve read Buchanan’s “The Unnecessary War” and know that Hitler was an extreme Anglo-phile and had no intentions of attacking Britain until Britain forced hostilities.
    http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/WSCwrote1920.html

  378. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 1:35 am #

    Sure Buck. Guess math isn’t your strong suite. 90% in 1960 to about 65-70% now. Quite a drop in two generations. Now big step here – extend the rate of decline two more generations and factor in how many babies the Mexes are having here. We will be an aging minnority by 2050. The rate of minority births is already even with White births.
    But none of that means anything, right? Hope your good with painting skeletons and like bright colors.

  379. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 1:47 am #

    She’s a “political animal” and factions and hoped for alliances, and Marxist dialectic all serve to overwhelm her idealism for the Earth and America. Like most women, her mind is a constant whirl of he said she said, tit for tat, etc.
    Remember Lenin’s dictum: Worse is better. That always plays in when you’re dealing with these people. You can never be sure if they really want to help the situation or make it worse so as to bring on the Revolution. Do you think Obama really wants to save the American Economy?

  380. eljxanjgil December 29, 2011 at 1:54 am #

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  381. Pucker December 29, 2011 at 2:01 am #

    “Pucker —
    It’s not all that often that Michelle and I get to host a casual meal with friends.
    That’s one of the reasons we’re both excited about the upcoming dinner with three supporters and your guests.
    It’s the first one we’ve ever done like this together, and we’d love to have you and whoever you choose to join us.
    Chip in $3 or whatever you can today — and you’ll automatically be entered to be one of our dinner guests.
    I enjoy these dinners not just because they’re a way to connect with supporters across the country.
    They also say a lot about what kind of campaign we’re running.
    We don’t take a dime from D.C. lobbyists or special-interest PACs — never have and never will. Instead, we believe in the kind of politics that gives everyone a seat at the table — so we’re literally offering these seats at dinner to folks who are willing to step forward and be a part of it.
    There are just a few days left to add your name for a chance to be one of our guests at the next dinner, and help build this campaign before 2012 finally arrives.
    Make a donation of $3 or whatever you can today — and automatically enter to be there:
    https://donate.barackobama.com/Me-and-Michelle
    Thanks,
    Barack”

  382. wagelaborer December 29, 2011 at 2:16 am #

    Here’s the problem, Prog.
    Dee and I see that policy is made by and for the 1%.
    It doesn’t matter that immigration doesn’t benefit the 99%.
    That’s irrelevant to the 1%.
    You seem to believe that policy is made for the benefit of the majority of the people of the US. You seem to believe that your opinions matter to the policymakers. You seem to believe that petitioning the lawmakers with sincere arguments will equal the money of the lobbyists.
    Dee and I don’t believe any of that. We see that immigration serves the interests of the ruling class, not the rest of us. And therefore, that immigration will be allowed.
    I don’t know how to put it any more plainly.
    They’re just not that into you, or your concerns, prog. It doesn’t matter what you think. The profits to be made from cheap labor rule over your objections.

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  384. asoka. December 29, 2011 at 8:08 am #

    Jesus Christ Claims Tim Tebow Not Ready To Be NFL Starter
    DENVER—Jesus Christ, noted Son of God and football analyst proclaimed Monday that second-year Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow lacks the pocket presence, arm strength, and passing accuracy necessary to be a starter in the NFL. “Tim’s place is at the right hand of the other backups on the bench, and his earthly works show that he deserves to dwell there all the days of his life,” said Lord and Savior of all mankind, adding, ““It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for Tim Tebow to complete a pass against the Cover-2”. “For Tebow must have faith in coach Fox’s plan, and pay his dues by wearing the headset, and by calling in plays from the clipboard while watching from the sidelines.” Christ also asked Tebow to stop praying to Him and asking to be made the number one quarterback in the depth chart, claiming “that’s never going to fucking happen.”
    — The Onion Sports News

  385. metuselah December 29, 2011 at 8:13 am #

    That’s irrelevant to the 1%.
    ==
    True. But what is not irrelevant to the 1% is the democratic process. I don’t mean political elections, because we all know that is a charade and a rigged game. I mean a real democratic process, where you vote with the dollar, or rather, where you vote against their dollar and their banks, where you vote against their corporations, where you vote against paying them tribute by way of taxes, where you vote against having anything to do with their professional associations and institutions. I’m talking about a real vote of no-confidence in their system of theft and abuse.

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  386. asoka. December 29, 2011 at 8:25 am #

    Procon said: There are no positive outcomes for immigration into the US.
    —————–
    Wow! Incredibly selfish, ignorant, and racist!
    Procon is saying: My family done immigrated here from Europe. Me and mine are here… Now let’s slam the door shut.
    We stole the land using guns and negotiated a treaty with Mexico in bad faith, altered the treaty to steal properties and make it look legal.
    Now the damn brown people are trying to take back their land. (and they are succeeding!)
    I got mine … Quick, shut the door!

  387. DeeJones December 29, 2011 at 8:34 am #

    Que?!

  388. progress2conserve December 29, 2011 at 8:46 am #

    “Procon said: There are no positive outcomes for immigration into the US.” That do not involve:
    1. economic growth
    2. moral platitudes
    3. ethnic dining and entertainment.
    -asoka-
    Then asoka indulges in #2, above, by labeling any effort to discuss immigration reduction as racist.

  389. progress2conserve December 29, 2011 at 9:05 am #

    “Dee and I don’t believe any of that. We see that immigration serves the interests of the ruling class, not the rest of us. And therefore, that immigration will be allowed.”
    -wage-
    I see that too, Wage. Anyone with half a brain should be able to see that – going back to Reagan’s legalization of all those Mexicans in 1981, if not a lot further back.
    So, Wage and Dee – Occupy Wall Street, The Greens of California, and all Organizations Various and Sundry – that claim to be for the interests of American Labor – should be opposed to high rates of legal and illegal immigration.
    Yet, they are often NOT so opposed.
    Explain this, if you please.
    ============================
    And I guess the answer will involve some idea that there would be “plenty for all of us,” (including millions and millions of unskilled immigrants?) if the ruling class would only learn to share.
    And that may have been true, when the US was THE dominant economic power and we had strong private industry unions and 200,000,000 residents. But those days are gone and they are never coming back.
    And the ruling class will never share.
    So it’s time for OWS, etc, to truly stand up for the working class and oppose further immigration.
    It’s one area, symbolic yet important, that should unite the 99% – both Left and Right.
    So why don’t these organizations change their policies on immigration??

  390. charliefoxtrot December 29, 2011 at 9:24 am #

    democratic nazis- i mean underground…

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  391. Alexandra December 29, 2011 at 9:40 am #

    Season greetings Clusterf#ckers all, no matter what your class, ethnicity, creed or cravings. However if you’re afflicted by blinkered evangelical fundamentalist Christian views and are a high ranking NRA big wig, then skip this post from me for sure…
    For the rest, yep even you too yanky-doodle-dandy Vladminator, I thought I’d just ping in a quick hello, to see how you’re all doing?
    My highlights for entertainment during this Yuletide break – apart from reading good ole JKHs weekly missives of course – was watching Nick Bloomfield’s ‘Sarah Palin You betcha!’ aired on Channel 4 this week.
    The ‘key’ point he makes is how on earth did this very parochial, stuck in pre-teen behaviour, gum chewing, spiteful, centre of attention cheerleader prone woman actually get a real standing for office chance of being installed in your nations top administration HQ… the Whitehouse??
    This – despite when you pealed away the brilliant white Christian coiffured gloss exterior – she had only a track record of being absolutely hopeless at running anything of merit. Once installed even at base mayoral level, any staff with academic pedigree quickly got ‘thrown under the bus’… And even now on her numerous, maverick going rouge lecture tours she still espouses lies and bent truths, but no matter what she screeches out, power-suit clad her faithful lap it up, ovation cheer it on, and no doubt will help push-out those that may in future stand for any democratic based office.
    (christian, zealot bot drones, once activated.. go flame, protest and death-threat at their masters bidding)
    It just goes to prove that as long as Fox TV/Murdoch/KochBros. backs you, patriotic emotionality and star-spangled rhetoric mixed with gleaming white teeth and lipstick count for much, much more than any intelligent form of democratic tempered debate can ever hope to counter.
    So one would have to conclude, (that in the USA) the barbarians have in fact won… as we CFN’ers know too that the rule of law in your nation is no longer relevant, and that even executing foreign leaders (Gansta style) is now fully Hillary Rodham Clinton green-lighted and game on. As that tiresome labouring process of the court of law is no longer seen as a required form of moral due diligence. Much as with Mrs Palin and ‘Troopergate’… and our once beloved Tony Bliar, whom ignored the full UN legal mandates for joint shock-an-awe strikes against Iraq – simply put bullying and big stick beatings is now the new normal.
    So if the Israelites do in fact strike out soon at the Iranians, perhaps the closing of the Strait of Hormuz in retaliation will be just the sort of infidel sharp, short bitchsl#p shock we’ll need in the OECD befuddled West to give us the collective wake-up reset that might finally do us all some good.
    (Which brings me onto my final thought for today)
    For those that can remember me mentioning a skipper I recently encountered, whom had been close to the end of his personal three year obsession, of launching a custom 87’ twin rudder carbon-composite ketch out of the UK come July 2012, down there in Hampshire. 6 weeks ago he was the kid in the candy store… jet-setting fully and had rented a house out there in St. Lucia to meet sail mates finishing this years ARC, when he realised his ‘man flu’ was a tad worse than he initially thought…
    To cut a story short, it was Pneumonia and unlike George Michael, Jeff at just 47 didn’t make it. His last email on a Sat afternoon, was light-hearted and scoffing at me for going out into the squalls and rain to hike Dartmoor, but by the following morning Sunday 18th Dec’ he was dead. He will now never head out into the big blue and fulfil his personal nautical dream, taking his new boats helm for the very first time… though his ashes were dispersed at sea.
    The moral? There isn’t one except perhaps this… concentrate on the right here, right now as for all of us it really is the ‘best’ there is. Utopia… by definition you’ll never get there.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVAnlke_xUY
    Ciao bella

  392. charliefoxtrot December 29, 2011 at 9:47 am #

    prog, i think the problem is that the last generation has been brought up with the idea of political correctness there are many of us in the field of construction who have felt the effect of plummeting wages, and know why it happened- it s damned difficult to do anything about it when if one brings up the subject one is instantly called a racist…another reason, i think, is that the majority of 20-somethings today have never worked in the trades, or for that matter really worked at anything, so have faced no competition that can be seen…and then there is always the basic human decency at some level (i know, not all feel or recognize it!) that tells us in our got that these people will suffer if they stay in mexico, india, somalia, etc and yeah, i realize they could stay home and make their country better so the lure of “the streets paved with gold” isn t so strong…in closing, i think met posted above the most realistic way to fight the interests of the 1%; i would add that educating some of the foreign nationals already here about what conditions are really in place, and try to achieve some changes in their attitude and behavior, vis a vis quit undercutting the wage system; that hurts us all…realistically, i believe a worldwide workers general strike and, if necessary, revolution will be necessary to make any changes at this late juncture…

  393. ozone December 29, 2011 at 9:54 am #

    “It looks like we will have to find out about TLE the hard way, i.e., being slapped in the face by it.”
    –WSP7
    Correct! (…Excellent observations on cognitive dissonance in action on levels local, national, and international.)
    I just returned from Charleston, SC, and I have to tell ya man, it’s the very definition of JHK’s Clusterfuck Nation. Christ, talk about the blind leading the blind on a truly massive scale! Strip malls everywhere (some in lingering decrepitude and decline, while they’re busy building MORE), packed trailer “communities”, roads overflowing with low-mpg pick-me-ups, SUVs and muscle cars, housing tracts in hurry-the-hell-up construction (employing obvious “imported” laborers), secondary roads falling to ruination, and a huge influx of big corporations that only make things SUPPORTED BY CHEAP FOSSIL-FUEL ENERGY. Plus the outrageous blatant racism that’s overlain with a very thin veneer of civility. (This is all against all racism, everyone’s a victim and persecutor at the same time; I see a subtle distractionary programming in this weird aspect of the locale.) Their infrastructure is not going to support this massive influx of people and resource-gobbling industries for too long. It seems EVERYTHING besides the seafood is imported here! I sure as hell would not want to be in the middle of this sprawling tangle of know-nothing-ism when TSHTF. Ammo is cheap and plentiful however, so things will get sorted out in the most basic grass-roots way. It might be a good place to do some sea-based trade, a few years after the Great Reckoning that surely follows the Great Crumbling, as night follows day. A good harbor is a good harbor, that is undeniable until Nature takes it in hand to change it.
    This is a land in complete and utter denial of “coming attractions”… in other words, a politicians unending wet-dream of boobs to be milked and rubes to be bilked.

  394. ozone December 29, 2011 at 10:18 am #

    Abs,
    I am heartened to see you have flexibility in areas thoughtful and physical. That, and the acquisition of truly useful skills, is going to be of utmost importance in the near future, IMHO.
    “Is it a waste of time pondering such chaos?
    I’m convinced the government has abandoned party politics altogether and is just gearing up for the shitstorm while Joe the Plumber still worries whether his guy will get the nod or retain his seat. The media debates are about as useful as last years magazines lately.” -AMR
    Ties right in with my thoughts about the blinkered denial of the lumpenprole. It’s quite useful to the PTB to keep the general populace as dumb as possible and distracted as possible. (Keeps ’em from tumbling to who their real enemies are, don’cha know.)
    Pondering the present and future chaos is NOT a waste of time; it’s most important in “positioning” oneself [as best as one can] to survive the outcomes of our multiple predicaments. (Energy, agriculture, water, political and religious vampirism, social organization, pollution, climate, etc.) There are some feedback loops that simply have to play out; there’s little to “be done”, and dealing with the outcomes will be quite the survival challenge.
    Good luck, my wager is on you and folks “like” you, who are intensely curious as to what is really going on and why, rather than folks like me who are somewhat (or maybe, greatly) limited by psychologies of previous investment (tm JHK). :o)

  395. ozone December 29, 2011 at 10:21 am #

    Oops, left out “over-population” as one of the most obvious multiple predicaments. (Sorry P2C. ;o)

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  396. ozone December 29, 2011 at 10:34 am #

    P2C,
    This comment by Wage should lay things out well for you, regarding her and Dee’s opinion on the matter. (I happen to agree with them as well.)
    Any “organization” that becomes a political force will be co-opted. The evidence for this abounds.
    Top-down “solutions” to the immigration predicament will be inadequate, wrong-headed and [most importantly] beneficial to those who already profit from the status quo. Economic collapse is the only situation in which all hands are exposed for those willing to look. Things are just going to have to shake out in an “organic” way. I know you’d rather that it be by calm and thoughtful compromise, but I have very little hope of that. Look who’s placed themselves in charge of those processes and you’ll see why I feel that way.

  397. charliefoxtrot December 29, 2011 at 10:56 am #

    well said, ozone…

  398. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 10:59 am #

    What dishonest folks like Asoka dont know or admit is immigration to the ‘white countries’ allows the
    turd world to continue to over populate.
    Imagine Mexico with the 50 million Latinos that USA has and w/o the billions of dollars sent from el norte!

  399. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 11:02 am #

    You are so sick.
    Let 1/2 jewish Maher mock Islam and Israel.
    What a fukkin coward he is.
    BOYCOTT HBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  400. mika. December 29, 2011 at 11:03 am #

    Things are just going to have to shake out in an “organic” way.
    ==
    Exactly. An organic reaction of disgust and revulsion, and an aversion of having anything to do or be in any way connected with these megalomaniac vatican jesuit predators and their imperialist proxies.

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  401. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 11:03 am #

    What I mean is ‘of course non daulists’ worship a God.
    What else would they do?

  402. Buck Stud December 29, 2011 at 11:13 am #

    And I could say that reading comprehension is not your strong suit. With more careful reading you would see that I was commenting on the out-of-the-blue nature of WideSpread’s post, and not on any “numbers”.
    In fact, you read just fine; my post was just another opportunity for yet another endless VK ethnic contortion.
    Somebody mentioned that you reside in the white bread state of Idaho, enveloped by acre after acre occupied by your ethnic brethren. So what’s the problem Vlad, why the obsessive compulsion with race when you are not directly affected by those of a different race? If you answer is because of “the greater nation” than I will say you need to take a correspondingly great stand and open your own blog with your real name, otherwise you’re just a coward and a hypocrite. Not to mention wholly unworthy of invoking the courage and resolve of the founding fathers as you frequently do.
    So what’s it going to be Vlad Krantz, a Miller Moth compulsively flapping its wings and disturbing the light on CFN, or brave racial segregationist willing to hold his noble forehead high for all to see in the light of day?

  403. old69 December 29, 2011 at 11:17 am #

    From:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=177766
    The Myth of “JOBS”
    Actually, come to think about it, our present society, system, economic system has nothing at all to do with jobs and work at all ! It is mostly independent of “Jobs” and “Work”, doesn’t even need “Jobs” and “Work” and needs to “create Jobs” and “Jobs” and “Work” in general like a hole in the head.
    Many just can’t cram it in their thick heads that our present Technological Economy doesn’t need more jobs, more work, doesn’t create more jobs and work, needs more than anything else, consumerism and consumers, needs options and games, needs ever more free time to waste on options and games and wild consumption because the system produces free production by the boatloads, produces and can potentially produce way more than can ever be consumed by the boatloads. Just think, how can there be so many trillions of dollars floating around in the world banks and all, when so few people do any real work at all, most are just producing fluff (all the Information Workers, producing Symbols which are really ZERO REAL PRODUCTION, they are not cars which is REAL PRODUCTION) and working make believe jobs, go figure.
    And the system is tuned and optimized to eliminate jobs, and all of the Innovation and Research and “More education” will only serve to eliminate as many jobs as possible, the system’s real goal is to kill jobs, kill ever more jobs by using robots, automation, optimization, by using “Innovation” to find “new ways to produce” and do things “with less cost” hence, somewhere down the line with less jobs, ever fewer, and in fact this is the real sign of progress and value of all of our Innovation, Technology, Research and Education: how many more jobs can you hack, how much more can you achieve with fewer and fewer people needing to be paid, how much more profit can the few hands governing the production process hog up, by killing ever more jobs.
    And yet, all the economists, politicians, thinkers, you name it keep on chanting the fairy tale of “job creation”, “less taxes will create jobs, “more education and innovation will create jobs”, you name, the more false and idiotic the relationship the more they chant it and believe in it. Incredible, our present Technological Economy, and in the future ever more, has absolutely nothing at all to do with jobs, and will have ever less to do with jobs and ever more to do with simple Status Relationships, Power Relationships, just pure power, who owns and controls what, who can hog money on one side or another, independent of any “effort”, or “hard work” or “jobs” all the 18th century thinkers love to keep on blattering.
    Just 1 trillion dollars of debts (and the USA, EU and JAPAN have more than 20 trillions of dollars that must be “paid back”) to be paid back must be equivalent to 10 million jobs being paid 10,000 dollars a year for 10 years: exactly what manipulations, what informational or physical transformations will those “new jobs” imply ? Exactly what input -> manipulation -> output will 10 million people do 8 hours a day, everyday, for ten years that is equivalent to that 10,000 dollars a year salary (which by the way, is a very high salary worldwide) will they do ? Nobody ever answers, nobody knows, everyone bvelieves the “Invisible Hand of the Market” will “create them”, the same hand that is hosing as many possible jobs as it can to increase profit, go figure.
    We need Scott Free Handouts, 800 dollars a month to billions of people worldwide and cheap rents, 200 dollars a month to rent a 3 bedroom house all over the world, AMEN. And huge public – private projects, TRILLIONS OF SKYSCRAPERS, TRILLIONS OF ROCKETS TO MARS, WHAT I HAVE BEEN REPEATING FOREVER, BUT NO ONE IS LISTENING, AND NO ONE IS DOING WHAT I DEMAND, DO IT JACKASSES ! JUST DO IT ! GIVE ME MY SCOTT FREE HANDOUT AND TRILLIONS OF SKYSCRAPERS AND ROCKETS TO MARS. JESUS CHRIST, I CAN’T BELIEVE WHAT IDIOTS THE GOVERNMENTS OF THIS WORLD ARE!
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  404. old69 December 29, 2011 at 11:23 am #

    Some corrections for your thesis:
    The Myth of “JOBS”
    Actually, come to think about it, our present society, system, economic system has nothing at all to do with jobs and work at all ! It is mostly independent of “Jobs” and “Work”, doesn’t even need “Jobs” and “Work” and needs to “create Jobs” and “Jobs” and “Work” in general like a hole in the head.
    Many just can’t cram it in their thick heads that our present Technological Economy doesn’t need more jobs, more work, doesn’t create more jobs and work, needs more than anything else, consumerism and consumers, needs options and games, needs ever more free time to waste on options and games and wild consumption because the system produces free production by the boatloads, produces and can potentially produce way more than can ever be consumed by the boatloads. Just think, how can there be so many trillions of dollars floating around in the world banks and all, when so few people do any real work at all, most are just producing fluff (all the Information Workers, producing Symbols which are really ZERO REAL PRODUCTION, they are not cars which is REAL PRODUCTION) and working make believe jobs, go figure.
    And the system is tuned and optimized to eliminate jobs, and all of the Innovation and Research and “More education” will only serve to eliminate as many jobs as possible, the system’s real goal is to kill jobs, kill ever more jobs by using robots, automation, optimization, by using “Innovation” to find “new ways to produce” and do things “with less cost” hence, somewhere down the line with less jobs, ever fewer, and in fact this is the real sign of progress and value of all of our Innovation, Technology, Research and Education: how many more jobs can you hack, how much more can you achieve with fewer and fewer people needing to be paid, how much more profit can the few hands governing the production process hog up, by killing ever more jobs.
    And yet, all the economists, politicians, thinkers, you name it keep on chanting the fairy tale of “job creation”, “less taxes will create jobs, “more education and innovation will create jobs”, you name, the more false and idiotic the relationship the more they chant it and believe in it. Incredible, our present Technological Economy, and in the future ever more, has absolutely nothing at all to do with jobs, and will have ever less to do with jobs and ever more to do with simple Status Relationships, Power Relationships, just pure power, who owns and controls what, who can hog money on one side or another, independent of any “effort”, or “hard work” or “jobs” all the 18th century thinkers love to keep on blattering.
    Just 1 trillion dollars of debts (and the USA, EU and JAPAN have more than 20 trillions of dollars that must be “paid back”) to be paid back must be equivalent to 10 million jobs being paid 10,000 dollars a year for 10 years: exactly what manipulations, what informational or physical transformations will those “new jobs” imply ? Exactly what input -> manipulation -> output will 10 million people do 8 hours a day, everyday, for ten years that is equivalent to that 10,000 dollars a year salary (which by the way, is a very high salary worldwide) ? Nobody ever answers, nobody knows, everyone believes the “Invisible Hand of the Market” will “create them”, the same hand that is hosing as many possible jobs as it can to increase profit, go figure.
    We need Scott Free Handouts, 800 dollars a month to billions of people worldwide and cheap rents, 200 dollars a month to rent a 3 bedroom house all over the world, AMEN. And huge public – private projects, TRILLIONS OF SKYSCRAPERS, TRILLIONS OF ROCKETS TO MARS, WHAT I HAVE BEEN REPEATING FOREVER, BUT NO ONE IS LISTENING, AND NO ONE IS DOING WHAT I DEMAND, DO IT JACKASSES ! JUST DO IT ! GIVE ME MY SCOTT FREE HANDOUT AND TRILLIONS OF SKYSCRAPERS AND ROCKETS TO MARS. JESUS CHRIST, I CAN’T BELIEVE WHAT IDIOTS THE GOVERNMENTS OF THIS WORLD ARE!

  405. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 11:24 am #

    noteable quote:
    More importantly, Jerry – asoka., sometimes known as “the resident impediment” is twisting and spinning YOUR words, Jerry – to impede dialog.

    thanks P2C!
    years ago Qtip noted the same.

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  406. ozone December 29, 2011 at 11:31 am #

    “…But rackets as grand and insolent as these would not be possible, except in a culture so estranged from truth that anything goes over without notice.” -JHK
    Speaking o’ which, how do the markets manage to be (year-to-date) UP with these looming specters?:
    “Here’s a little overview of the year-to-date performance of some of the major global banking stocks on December 29, 2011, before the opening bell:
    BofA: -60.38%
    Citi: -44.76%
    Goldman Sachs: -46.41%
    JPMorgan: -23.03%
    Morgan Stanley: -45.24%
    RBS: -50%
    Barclays: -34.32%
    Lloyds: -63.02%
    UBS: -29.33%
    Deutsche Bank: -28,55%
    Crédit Agricole: -56.04%
    BNP Paribas: -37.67%
    Société Générale: -59.57%”
    (From today’s Automatic Earth.)
    http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/2011/12/december-29-2011-trends-2012-end-of.html
    Might there be some shadowy “fiddling” going on behind the curtain?

  407. JonathanSS December 29, 2011 at 11:37 am #

    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
    George Santayana

    Thanks for the memories. I remember laughing at people sitting in gas lines in the 70’s as I rode my bicycle past them. Ever since reading TLE, I’ve arranged things so that I am not directly dependent upon a car. Of course, since I don’t grow 100% of my own food, I’m indirectly dependent upon our current transport system.

  408. Rhino December 29, 2011 at 11:59 am #

    Asoka has to explain how letting in millions of desperate job seekers and adding to the already existing millions of desperate job seekers (when our corporate titans were offshoring millions of jobs) is in any way in the interest of people immigrating. Or in the interest of those already here.
    What’s that you’re saying? These immigration policies depress wage rates in the US?
    What else? It relegates millions of newcomers to shit jobs earning shit pay? Not like in the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s when jobs were plentiful?
    So what do you figure? Who benefits? What’s that you say? The people that benefit from depressed wage rates and desperate job seekers are the top 1%? And Wall Street?
    By GeorgeI think you’re onto something here.
    I guess the question for our friend Asoka is why is he advocating for the interests of Wall Street and the top 1%?
    The question is also what is Asoka’s interest in advocating these immigration policies.
    Maybe Asoka should explain himself. Because what he advocates is seriously fucking up a lot of people’s lives.

  409. rippedthunder December 29, 2011 at 12:03 pm #

    Curtain? What steekin’ curtain? Pay no attention to those men /women behind the curtain. It’s all good people! The only fiddlin’ I want to hear is “Papa John Creach”

  410. Buck Stud December 29, 2011 at 12:05 pm #

    Vlad,
    I am being quite serious here. Since you feel so strongly about your cause, and you consistently invoke the qualities of courage, honor, bravery as it pertains to the “White Race”, why not spread your message from your own blog? You have an unwavering passion and commitment to the cause of “the White Race” – it’s basically all you write about. In fact, you dominate the rap, Jack, week after week, month after month here on CFN. Due to your dire assessment of the “the numbers” and white decline, the cause you constantly champion is in urgent need of a voice with a certain literary charisma along with an idiosyncratic mode of articulation and who better than you Vlad? You would have a built-in audience willing to follow you from CFN. And on those very slow first days, when the cause seems dire, Anti-Soak would eagerly drop to his knees and perform fellatio on your ego.
    You can do it Vlad. Remove the mask of anonymity just as Robert The Bruce did. Leave forever behind the seat of the second floor balcony from which you safely hurl your racial epithets and come forth into the spotlight to man the podium of White glory. And just think of the Teutonic female groupies who would drool over the white highlight on your long forehead…never again would you have another lonely night here on CFN.
    As you constantly mention it looks bad for the “White Race”, Vlad. Surely the cause requires your strength of conviction along with your tailor-made skills to match in the age of the internet. I am going to miss your writing but now is the time for to start taking yourself seriously Vlad. The “White Race” is depending on you.

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  411. rippedthunder December 29, 2011 at 12:07 pm #

    Charleston, SC? Try the Ocala, FL region. Talk about a CLF. I’ll take rural New England any day over those cesspools.

  412. Widespreadpanic7 December 29, 2011 at 12:19 pm #

    Pucker right now Obama is staying in a $10 million private residence during his 17 day South Pacific vacation. He doesn’t need our lousy $3.00.
    Hey Asoka how about if Tebow was praying to Vishnu or Buddha? Would that square it in your book?
    –WSP7

  413. ozone December 29, 2011 at 12:20 pm #

    lol!
    All due respect to Papa John, the “other” type of fiddlin’ going on behind said curtain is killin’ us by degrees. ;o)

  414. ozone December 29, 2011 at 12:23 pm #

    Ps,
    Gun-smithing tools, eh?
    You’ll definitely have to show me how those be “fiddled” with! (Another skill I sadly lack.) :o)

  415. Widespreadpanic7 December 29, 2011 at 12:34 pm #

    Hey Alexandra from what I can gather you have your own problems over there in Britain every bit as vexing as ours. As a matter of fact, just yesterday I saw more video of bearded muslims in the center of London making incendiary public speeches about bringing down the British Government and invoking shariah law. And that’s just for starters. Maybe you should worry about that and not Sarah Palin, who, as far as I know, is not a candidate for any public office this election cycle.
    –WSP7

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  416. Widespreadpanic7 December 29, 2011 at 12:43 pm #

    Pretty good post about Dixie, Ozone. It kinda reaffirms Jims portrait of the Southeast in TLE. That was written 7 years ago and it is most likely worse now.
    –WSP7

  417. wagelaborer December 29, 2011 at 12:51 pm #

    “And the ruling class will never share.
    So it’s time for OWS, etc, to truly stand up for the working class and oppose further immigration.”
    Um, that would be the difference between you and me, Prog.
    My solution to a greedy ruling class who are destroying the ecosystem and the lives of millions of humans is to slap their greedy little hands and tell them – “No, bad overlords! No more cookies!”
    You’d do it to a greedy 2-year old, but faced with insatiable greed in adults, your choice is to turn on people worse off than you, so as to get their .05% share, instead of stopping the greedy from taking 80% of the wealth.
    I find that weird. There is no way that I would suggest that to the Occupy movement, or the Green Party.
    Sorry.

  418. Widespreadpanic7 December 29, 2011 at 12:53 pm #

    RipT
    Gun smithing tools. Lucky you!! That’s what I call a gift. Nothing like them except perhaps jewelers tools. Precision screwdrivers, brass hammers, a small vice, a micrometer or two … It can run into some money so you have to accumulate that stuff over time. But it lasts forever. I’ve done some shade tree gun smithing myself. Strictly an amateur, you understand, but a nice way to spend in the back on a summer day.
    –WSP7

  419. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 1:01 pm #

    So we have take from the rich and give to the illegals? Mexico has very strict immigration laws. As does every other viable nation. But as a Commie, you don’t like nations to begin with…

  420. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 1:06 pm #

    Sorry you’re so filled with hate that you use quotation marks to describe your own people. That is truly sick. A people who don’t really exist don’t have any rights either. And you may have noticed that our rights are increasingly defined in terms of groups not individuals. And I’m sure if you were a minority you would have mentioned it by now. So you bite your nose to spite my face.
    Better buy a skull at an art supply store and start practicing.

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  421. wagelaborer December 29, 2011 at 1:12 pm #

    No, Vlad.
    You know that’s not what I’m saying.
    I’m saying that the profit motivated system is not working for us. Not for the 1%, and now not for the .09%, as Max Keiser points out that they are now firing brokers, and John Corzine stole money from the .09%, to give to the .01%.
    They are eating their own, but first they are destroying us, and the ecosystem we depend on for life.
    We need to democratize and localize and downsize.
    I’m actually not real hopeful. As Martin Luther King, Jr. pointed out years ago, sometimes in human history there is such a thing as “too late”.
    It just may be too late.
    But people like you are impediments to building a better society, because you are so twisted by hate and fear.
    But there are millions like you, carefully taught to hate and fear by the corporate media, especially Fox News.
    Too bad. We had a great country.

  422. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 1:17 pm #

    In Britain, an estimated 180 pensioners died every day last winter from the cold – the highest rate in Northern Europe. Now since young White Couples wait for years to get housing but immigrants from South Asia get housing within weeks of arrival, I wonder which elderly people are falling thru the cracks? I bet it’s old White People, right?
    You people are practicing a stealth genocide.
    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/cold-kills-180-british-pensioners-a-day-during-winter.html

  423. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 1:24 pm #

    You don’t believe we had a great country. That’s BS. I hope you’re sincere about keeping the aliens out and honoring the local. But after all your talk about Libya, granny having 14 abortions, etc – who knows what you really believe. Marxism is profoundly anti-local, anti-individual, anti-nation, anti-White, etc.
    I’m for Ron Paul, who is hated by the Fox Neo-Cons. He’s not perfect – doesn’t understand borders, etc but he seems to be his own man.

  424. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 1:28 pm #

    Check this out: English Veteran and girlfriend kill themselves – couldn’t take another winter of freezing. They fell thru the system while the Muslims have masses of kids on the backs of the English People. Alexandra and her Ilk have alot to answer for.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2059238/Army-veteran-Mark-Mullins-wife-Helen-driven-suicide-poverty.html

  425. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 1:32 pm #

    Slap their greedy little hands? Or crush their hands in vises? Or put bamboo splinters under their fingernails and light them? Or smash their hands with a sledge hammer?
    All Communist methods of social discipline for “Capitalist Pigs” and devout Christians.

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  426. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 1:58 pm #

    She says Im a ‘Bircher’ [meant as an insult]
    who lives in a fantasy land,
    see our posts earlier this week if ya care to!

  427. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 2:00 pm #

    Ill watch Maher when hell freezes or he draws cartoons online that mock mohamed!

  428. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 2:03 pm #

    You never cease to amaze me..
    how do you know all this stuff?
    Do you stay online24/7?
    Its to get worse Vlad….the poverty, immigrants, world population, get whitey attitude..
    you can read it here, from whites yet!

  429. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 2:09 pm #

    maybe koch and george will split the American pie..
    50/50..
    BYE BYE AMERICAN PIE~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Soros Monitor
    http://www.sorosmonitor.com/
    There are three billionaires, George Soros, Peter Lewis and John Sperling who have … You see, if you buy Progressive auto insurance, when you send in you
    AND Buck Stud happy holidays,you ahole.

  430. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 2:09 pm #

    Well they could just “BE” or be God. Or so alot of people think who don’t have much feel for subject, have big egos, or have had bad experience with organized religion and are thus stuck in reaction. Anyway, after that clarification I think we’re on the same page but we’d have to talk for awhile to see how each of us use certain terms, etc.
    I’m amazed at the reactions I get sometimes from Liberals from the most innocuous commonsensical things like “Past behavior is the best indicater of present and future behavior”. Wtf? From their reaction you would have thought I had just given my endorsment of determinism or predestination in going to hell. I mean what the fuck do they believe? That people are free or all equally free? The smarter and more informed you are, the more you can fight propaganda and those who seek to program you. The more aware you are, the more you are able to fight your own blind reactions and emotional complexes. You’d think Dale at least would undertand these things. But no.

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  431. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 2:16 pm #

    The ‘Alexandras’ of the free world are merely lobsters in a pot of ever warming water.
    Her finger pointing [at us in the repub-lukan USA]
    wont save her in the end.
    Indeed if she yells ‘stupid paki’ she may end up like Emma West……..check her rant on youtube.
    Its priceless…you too f-kstud ..check it out.

  432. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 2:17 pm #

    I have good servants: White Nationalist sites provide me mostly all I need to know. The Men’s Rights site the The Spearpoint is very good too. The Vault tells me what I need to know about possible Earth Changes and Federal outrages.
    I don’t get around to good sites like World Net Daily, Drudge, or What really happened, etc – except when the Vault links to them. Go to Alex Jones now and then.
    My brother sent me these horrific links about the elderly freezing to death in the U.K.

  433. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 2:18 pm #

    ‘laughing at people sitting in gas lines in the 70’s’
    yes, but food travels 200 miles to yr table.
    Its no laughing matter.

  434. ozone December 29, 2011 at 2:26 pm #

    Well, sorry that’s not gonna work out for him (and, by proxy, us), but when it’s your [admittedly, lousy] JOB to splatter fecal matter all over a blog in an attempt to drive people away gagging in disgust and horror, there’s just NO TIME to become a blo[g]viating hero!
    The chimp must Fling away, fling away. Being a traitor to your country and its’ people is hard work, but hey, it’s a paycheck. (Were I he, I’d start a campaign to outlaw streetlights; entirely too handy when found to be in the pay of the MIC.)

  435. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 2:43 pm #

    Wage supports Jill Stein – “green” candidate in favor of open borders. A dummy in other words.

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  436. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 2:45 pm #

    Paranoia thy name is Ozone. Chimps? Cheetah was gay for Johnny Weismuller. Happy now?

  437. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 2:50 pm #

    These people are positively Zany. Ozone reminds me of Lucille Ball.
    Jill does a bit of soft folksinging I believe. With her little bespeckled mousey face and soft voice and surrounded by all the good people with their strange fixed smiles, it’s quite a rockin’ scene. Ozone, you should do a duet with her.

  438. Alexandra December 29, 2011 at 3:54 pm #

    Vladdie dearest, me thinks you doth white race demise, bleat too much, and really I know I should resist in even bothering to answer you… but then again it is the season for sharing!
    UK based muslim and ethnic visitors do not hog all our social services, like Sarah Palin, you’re most fond of relaying half-truths… we have a smug 110% whiter than white shade of work-shy pale faces, nay in-bred St. George flag clad under-class for that, whom claim free state benefits as a ‘lifestyle’ choice. These people, much like yourself ‘shout’ loudest about their collective lack of privileges…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1303439/Benefits-couple-claiming-30-000-11-children-ANOTHER-way.html
    Our biggest city suburbs are besieged with them… so if a handful of dumb white folk, choose to opt out by committing suicide, or freezing to death, or getting wasted on booze & drugs, well at least it starts to take the pressure off our to date exponentially increasing UK welfare debt burden payment system…
    And it doesn’t take a racial supremacist clairvoyant type of even the lowest iQ to accurately predict that a lot of very lazy, ill-fed, low grade white folk will increasingly fall of the cliff edge, in fact it will be the same deal for such types no matter which OECD they be currently based in… the free lunch period is for sure most over.
    Ditto… also the to date free British NHS healthcare system too, it will be a pestilent disease ridden chaotic débâcle in less than a decade, with most antibiotics still available hopelessly inadequate in fighting the virals running free reign amongst the worn-torn wards. Quality doctors will have long fled to what will be a booming private sector.
    Free anything in fact will increasing be avoided like the plague by those that can, but will be by decrepit default the very last resort of option for those too ill equipped to cope, can nots.
    BTW you’d be amazed at how many white folk I know in the UK that are still doing very nicely thank you. Though its true most would be Country Alliance voters, and have an equine bent for sure, much like my beloved sister does. Yes we were both out with the local hunt on Boxing Day… so it does always make me pi## my pants when you accuse me of being a bleeding heart liberal…
    *sniggers*
    Be seeing you…

  439. wagelaborer December 29, 2011 at 3:56 pm #

    The thing about the white race mixing with the other races and becoming a minority next century (as if everything will just hum right along as usual here in the USA-not!), is that we will all be dead, and the people that will be here will be mixed and will find nothing wrong with that.
    So why all the angst about the future in which you will not live?
    Huh? Asia, Marlin and Vlad? What’s the big deal?
    In one hundred years, there will be all different people on this planet, than there are now.

  440. Eleuthero December 29, 2011 at 4:02 pm #

    Absalom said:
    Eleuthero, why don’t you cite your sources, instead of suggesting others embark on a wild Google goose chase to support your view for you?
    ********************************************
    You’re just another windbag who LIVES on this site and who, like Asoka, demands “sources”. Go find them yourself. I’ve looked them up ten times over and have no use for assholes like you who refuse to admit the obvious: That crime in various communities (black, Hispanic, Muslims in Europe) are absurdly high.
    Don’t bug me junior. You’re just another dumb liberal waster. You’re the kind of guy who would demand I find “sources” for the most sublimely obvious facts. Do you demand proof that I need oxygen to breathe?
    You’re another nattering Asoka … every time an opinion is uttered that’s not to your liking you demand that other posters supply footnotes. If you don’t know, PRIMA FACIE, that Muslims in Europe (and blacks and Hispanics in America) are committing an incredibly disproportionate percentage of violent crime, then you cannot find your own ass with both hands.
    Do your own legwork. Gawd … that’s all this fucking site needs is another Asoka who writes 100-200 posts per week and who requires “sources” for obvious and uncomfortable facts. I’ve seen your clones on blogs a thousand times over. Your next tactic will probably be to bog down discussions about “definitions” of obvious words.
    Get lost or stolen.
    E.

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  441. Buck Stud December 29, 2011 at 4:07 pm #

    The quotations marks do not denote hate for the “white race”; they merely indicate differing interpretations. Your interpretation is one race in a monolithic goose step; mine is something far closer to reality.
    When are you going to realize that “The Ideal” is nothing but a breathless pose waiting for the curtain to drop? People of all stripes have lives to live and living a life implies co-mingling.
    I notice you did not step up to the plate for your precious white race in peril. Oh well, the white race’s loss is my gain. And now that we know that you’re not that serious about the cause you continually banter on about, I can enjoy your posts for what they are: Seal with a ball on his nose entertainment.

  442. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 4:07 pm #

    OK, BUT from Brits I speak to UK is in a dire depression and admitting 1 or 2 MILLION immigrants a year? NO?
    Also you lousy Brits are not welcome in our Visa Lottery.
    CHEERS!
    RE: ‘dumb white folk’…Gee methinks the gal protest a bit too much. Check the mirror for’dumb white folk’.

  443. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 4:09 pm #

    In the long run ..we are all dead.
    Whats the point yr making?
    If its that Im against mixed marriages, No..never stated that here or anywhere.

  444. ABSALOM December 29, 2011 at 4:44 pm #

    Just another duck, dodge, and sidestep. You have nothing Eleuthero. You are an in-effectual never was, a bitter community college instructor at best, never an erudite as you claim.
    Statistics for crime are always greater for those concentrated at one end of the socioeconomic spectrum. There are explicable reasons for this, but arguments of racial superiority or inferiority based on such statistics are non-starters. Don’t be sad E, DISCERNING readers of this blog now see the pathetic, scared little man that you are.
    Consider your LEGS chopped, or lost or stolen, if it serves your forever bruised ego. I’ve dispatched you either way.
    ABSALOM

  445. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 5:02 pm #

    Why then do 1 in 3 [or 4] Black males have at least one felony while say 2 generations ago [40 years] US Black males did not?
    ‘Statistics for crime are always greater for those concentrated at one end of the socioeconomic spectrum. There are explicable reasons for this’
    Such as?

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  446. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 5:04 pm #

    Great post E but Abs is here, perhaps for the long term.

  447. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 5:11 pm #

    I like this post so I saved in it a word doc on my laptop…maybe Abs and Alexandra can have tea in a bad part of London…where Sharia is indeed the law.

  448. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 5:14 pm #

    The courts say reinterpret the Obvious until its
    uh..something more to their liking.
    OK you white nazi?

  449. Hancock1863 December 29, 2011 at 5:34 pm #

    You said to ProgorCons…

    My solution to a greedy ruling class who are destroying the ecosystem and the lives of millions of humans is to slap their greedy little hands and tell them – “No, bad overlords! No more cookies!”
    You’d do it to a greedy 2-year old, but faced with insatiable greed in adults, your choice is to turn on people worse off than you, so as to get their .05% share, instead of stopping the greedy from taking 80% of the wealth.

    You know, ever since my new understanding of human evolutionary biology and the fact that it basically reduces most or all sweeping human activity (particularly at the 0.01% level) to the base level of 5 year old children squabbling on a playground, it is stunning how modern hypercomplexity can be factored out and reduced like an algebra equation until something simple remains. “x=4”
    As regards to your comment to ProgorCons, the answer is amazingly simple, childish and play-groundian. It also applies to the vast vast VAST majority of humanity (likely including me and a vast majority, if not all, CFNers) and clearly explains yet another aspect of 8000 years of human history.
    Simply put: Angry people lash out at the poor and the weak in response to being robbed, injured, or otherwise subjected to blatant injustice by the 0.01% Aristocracy, because it’s the easiest way not to get hurt or otherwise inconvenienced.
    In a general, overarching societal sense, it sure is easy to beat up on the poor and weak, physically, economically, psychologically and any other way. Doubly so, since the “bandwagon effect” combined with this near-universal human trait swiftly musters legions of authoritarian followers and others who want to strike at their tormentors, but also don’t want to get hurt or battle in a close contest against other “strong” people, like Richie Rich and his Army of Mercenary Meatheads, plus the usual assortment of Tony Baloney corrupt LE.
    This provides the illusion of action and retribution against torment and injustice, while at the same time STRENGTHENING the aristocratic tormentors responsible in the first place.
    It happens over and over and over again with such universal predictability that it seems certain that JHK’s dream of plebian revolution againt our “betters” is just that…a dream with no basis in historical reality, an absolute outside longshot of the 100 to 1 order versus the virtual certainty that if and when the American Subjects ever wake up, they will be pointed toward their murderous mission with Fox Newsian ease, most never asking a question or having a troubling thought, which they will medicate away with both psychiatric drugs and Corporate-State-Propaganda, if such unhappy thoughts should come up inadvertantly.
    I mean, what’s the alternative? Fighting someone who fights back? Fuhgeddaboudit.
    As it always was, it will continue to always will be, apparently, until we barely evolved monkeys destroy ourselves, be it in 100 or 10,000 years.
    I cannot predict the final shape of the trend here in the former USA. The only thing I can say about the Final Destination (or Solution, if you will) the former USA seems certain to be headed is that it will have much better PR to grease the wheels of it’s homeland murder machine, once it gets up and truly running.
    We won’t explicitly murder our victims, we’ll just set them up to die, then let them. Then, as with the Native Americans to whom “Love, American style” was first practiced upon, the 0.01% and their legions of slavish followers will curse and denigrate the dead as having deserved their fate, those lazy bastards.
    “Them Liberals and poor people die off so often at the Comcast AT&T HappyTimes FunTwinks Economic Sanctuary Zone because they are lazy and aren’t used to work.”
    Hannity, if he’s still around, should have a lot of fun with that one.
    That, and the national fleet of yellow schoolbusses. Something about that keeps flittering around my head, knowing our RW Corporate Socialists can’t use rail cars to transport prospective “clients” to the “Economic Sanctuary Zones” because their predecessors, the RW German National Socialists, spoiled the PR on that move.
    But yellow schoolbuses are diesel and therefore made for TLE as they can be run on biodiesel. They also carry warm childhood rememberences for a vast majority of the American Subject Populace. Not to mention the color yellow has some very soothing and positive psychological connotations for most people, and that’s a PR coup that can’t be sold short, just ask any Neuromarketer.
    NOT to ProgorCons: This is not a personal slight on you personally, it just so happens that Wage made the comment to you which caught my eye. It could have just as easily been someone else. So, please don’t go to the time and trouble of reaffirming your bravery or willingness to fight TPTB to me, because my reply was about masses of people, not individuals.
    ProgorCons, I do agree generally with your immigration views, but that is not germane to this aspect of the discussion.

  450. Hancock1863 December 29, 2011 at 5:39 pm #

    Whups. My second-to-last paragraph meant to say “NOTE to ProgorCons:”

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  451. Hancock1863 December 29, 2011 at 6:02 pm #

    One last postscript…
    Yes, there have been a very few exceptions to this mass psychology of humanity. The American, Russian, French, and Chinese Revolutions plus the Haiti Slave Rebellion.
    That FIVE in EIGHT THOUSAND YEARS of what has essentially been a giant Slave Labor Camp for 99% or more of people who ever lived, probably more when considering the whole shebang.
    And let’s not forget, the Russian Revolution begat Stalin, the French Revoltuion begat Napoleon, the Chinese begat Mao and the Haitians, well, they never had a chance. For delivering their one shining blow to European Aristocratic Monsters, their nation was punished and stunted without let up to this very day.
    And the American Revolution? Look how that’s ending up. Right back to the 1376 Feudal Europe, we go! Right back to rule by power and not law, mass inequality, mass injustice, the tragedy of the commons, and millions of lives destroyed in wars that are no more than a posionous combination of ruthless machiavellian resource grabs and the old-timey Aristocratic games of grab-ass with we Peasants as the toy soldiers and bullet-shields.
    Personally, I’d rather be a Colonist in 1768 than be an American Subject in 2100. It’s a virtual certainty that the Colonist had more freedom than the poor bastards in 2100 will have, plus no ubiquitous surveillance, corrupted Corporate-State-Run-Media or Police State Bully Rule.

  452. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 6:14 pm #

    You deserve to freeze/starve in an unheated apartment – the same fate to which you so gaily consign your own people. I’d pay money to see that, you worthless Snigger Nigger. The Anglo/American upper class will go down as the among the worst in human history – right up there with the Russian Communist Inner Party.

  453. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 6:19 pm #

    Your lack of loyalty for your own Race – the Race whose hard work, daring, and courage in battle enabled you to have a chance at a good life simply staggers me. Listening to Lena Horn or Bobby Brown isn’t give you back the soul that you’ve lost.
    Co-mingle? Why don’t you buy a house for $50 in the middle of Detroit and write about your co-mingling experiences you jackass.

  454. wagelaborer December 29, 2011 at 6:23 pm #

    See, Vlad, when I accused you of watching Fox News, you denied it, and I accepted your word and apologized for assuming it.
    You don’t have the integrity or honesty to do the same. (Must be those superior White morals?)
    Instead you make things up, terrible, disgusting things, attribute them to me and then berate me.
    Actually, I would never slap a 2 year old. I don’t believe in child abuse. I was talking to Prog, who is a southerner. Southerners are prone to casual brutality towards their children, and, even if Prog doesn’t himself, I knew that he would get the reference.
    I wouldn’t even give a 2 year old cookies. Only organic, stone-ground, whole wheat flour baked goods, naturally sweetened.
    Duh.

  455. DeeJones December 29, 2011 at 6:25 pm #

    Blah-blah-Blah-blah-Blah-Blah….

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  456. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 6:28 pm #

    Well obviously those born “mixed” might not find anything wrong with it – but think of the hideous life the poor White Woman lived, fallen so low and having to live in ghetto with people who mostly despised her.
    It’s only now in our decay that White People accept the mixed. In functioning civilizations, such as China, Japan, and Korea – they are tabu and are persecuted.
    That’s how these Civilizatons have lasted thousands of years. Do you really think they would last or continue to “be” China, Japan, or Korea if they allowed millions of Blacks in? You have no understanding of the subtleties that create Civilizations. All you can see is bread and soup. Civilization is a thing of the Spirit.

  457. wagelaborer December 29, 2011 at 6:29 pm #

    And what is it with Christians and their fascination with torture and abuse?
    Mel Gibson’s movie, The Passion of Christ, was said to be almost pornographic in its sado-masochism. The Left Behind books and video cover in savage detail the travails that their Lord and Savior will inflict on the heretics, gays and liberals.
    Is the unseemly fascination with hurting people the reason why so many prominent Christians are found to frequent prostitutes with their kinky persausions?
    And glory in the death and destruction that they visit upon people in other countries?
    There is something really wrong with that.

  458. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 6:31 pm #

    You deny Communists have done all these things? Duh yourself.
    For the record: I do watch Fox News. I practice the art of discerment, carefully separating their wheat from their chaff. Of course sometimes they just disgust me – no mention at all of turning America into a battlefield and the new right to inter citizens. None.

  459. Buck Stud December 29, 2011 at 6:37 pm #

    ” Your lack of loyalty for your own Race – the Race whose hard work, daring, and courage in battle enabled you to have a chance at a good life simply staggers me. ”
    My lack of loyalty? You’re the one too chickenshit to go public and defend the honor of the “Great White Race”. Daring and courage in battle, and yet Vlad Krandz curls up in the far corner of the internet, a quivering heap afraid to walk the talk he extolls.
    You’ve been unmasked coward, noW put that ball back on your nose and get back to entertaining me…SNAP TOO!

  460. wagelaborer December 29, 2011 at 6:37 pm #

    Yes, people are depressingly easy to manipulate.
    Have you seen the movie “The Century of the Self”?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IyPzGUsYyKM
    A fascinating explanation of how we got to this predicament.

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  461. wagelaborer December 29, 2011 at 6:44 pm #

    OK, then you lied before.
    Honesty is a virtue, Vlad.
    I daresay it’s more of a virtue than pride in your skin color.

  462. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 6:48 pm #

    So Terminator, Rambo are unpopular in Asia,
    it being a Non Christian place?
    I understand yr fingerpointing but have to disagree.

  463. progress2conserve December 29, 2011 at 6:51 pm #

    Wage –
    This discussion has been a complete set of non sequiturs to me – so I had to look back midstream, and see what you were trying to tell me.
    “Dee and I don’t believe any of that. We see that immigration serves the interests of the ruling class, not the rest of us. And therefore, that immigration will be allowed.”
    -wage-
    So, OK, WageLaborer says that immigration serves the interest of the ruling class. She argues that “immigration will be allowed,” as an unstoppable force, willed into existence by the ruling class of the United States or perhaps the ruling class of the Entire World.
    Then, our Wage, who’s very existence is devoted to opposing the Ruling Class – responds to my question as to why OWS or the California Green Party shouldn’t change their stance and support reductions in immigration:
    “I find that weird. There is no way that I would suggest that to the Occupy movement, or the Green Party.
    Sorry.”
    -wage-
    I’m sorry too, Wage. You are on record, here on CFN as, kinda-more-or-less, being opposed to high immigration into the US. I think.
    But you don’t think the Greens or OWS should oppose high immigration.
    And YOU are the one who convinced me that there is power in group action.
    Did you change your mind on immigration?
    Or what? What gives?

  464. wagelaborer December 29, 2011 at 6:54 pm #

    100 years ago you wouldn’t have been accepted into the KKK, you Catholic heathen.
    Look how standards have fallen! And yet, you never complain about that.
    You constantly proclaim the intellectual superiority of the the white race, yet, of the racists here, only you can white a coherent sentence.
    Neworld, antisoak and julietta are barely coherent at their best.
    And yet, like the herd animal that you, as a human, are, you align yourself with them. It’s pathetic, really.
    The only one who can write intelligibly is Marlin, who usually presents himself as a good ol’ boy with an unhealthy fascination with guns, but occasionallly his Tourette’s Syndrome kicks in, and he spews some racist rant that shocks the more genteel on this blog.
    The funny thing about him is, he’s not white. He says he’s Portugese, married to a Spaniard.
    He’s not one of us, Vlad.

  465. wagelaborer December 29, 2011 at 7:04 pm #

    Actually, the Greens advocate the end of NAFTA and stopping the dumping of subsidized corn into Mexico, so that Mexicans will be able to live in their own country without starving.
    You just want to attack them here.
    Again, I am focused on the criminals responsible for ALL of our plights, not fellow victims.
    And you make a great leap by saying that the ruling class is for immigration, and I am against the ruling class, therefore I should spend my time and energy railing against immigrants.
    That doesn’t logically follow, to me. I still focus on the criminals.

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  466. progress2conserve December 29, 2011 at 7:12 pm #

    Hey Hancock!
    No offense taken, in your response to Wage concerning her post to me. It was obvious from the git-go that you weren’t talking just to me.
    I have been talking about you though. Ozone posted a link about psychopaths in Corporate America. It’s very good and I think you’ll want to take a look at it. Go back to my post last week,
    December 21, 2011 10:53 AM – and track back to find the link. You won’t be disappointed.
    =========================
    As far as the rest of this –
    only one US president comes to mind as being more in favor of the “common man” at the expense of “the rich,” and that was FDR.
    I think that Jimmy Carter might have been a good one for this, had he won a second term. But the brainwashers and Authoritarians who came to power with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 – now have had too much time, too much technology, and too much money.
    Their skills are perfected. I do believe we are on the downslope of the end of freedom in the US – whateverthehell freedom even means, any more.
    And just wait until Obama’s second term.
    I’m afraid we ain’t seen nothing yet.
    One more thing I think you’d benefit from, is a close reading of John Michael Greer’s posts on thaumaturgy, back a month or so ago.
    Reluctantly, I’m seeing more and more evidence that you are right, you ol’ Billy Yank, you.
    Keep your powder dry, Hancock, and be thinking about where we should meet to begin planning our last stand against those Devilish Right Wing Authoritarians.
    Best regards,
    P2C

  467. wagelaborer December 29, 2011 at 7:12 pm #

    My granny who had 13 abortions was a right wing Christian, Vlad.
    It’s family legend how her sister, my great-aunt, screamed at Charlie Chaplin on a streetcar to leave her sister alone.
    He had asked my grandmother out, and he was a communist, so when my nazi aunt found herself on the same streetcar with him, she went all ballistic on him.
    So your point, once again, is wrong.

  468. progress2conserve December 29, 2011 at 7:18 pm #

    “You just want to attack them here.”
    -wage-
    Wage, for about the millionth time – I do not want to “attack them here.” I just want them to quit coming here – all of them, illegal AND legal.
    As long as the US population stays on its present grow, grow trajectory – nothing will improve for the 99% in the US.
    And nothing will improve in the home countries of the emigres.

  469. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 7:24 pm #

    Bad people have to suffer – often for the sin of persecuting good people. You shall pay to the very last farthing for your involvement in the evil Communist Movement.
    Repent now and then make ammends. Start by disavowing Stein and embracing Ron Paul.

  470. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 7:27 pm #

    You are crazy as a loon – Right Wing Christians don’t have 13 (it used to be 14) abortions. And you think that the Right Wing Christians are Nazis? How revealing. Why can’t you be a good woman like Julietta of Ohio?

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  471. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 7:31 pm #

    Lied about what? Liars always call other people liars.

  472. Vlad Krandz December 29, 2011 at 7:40 pm #

    Stop them from coming? That’s it? Let’s get the ones all ready here out too.
    Most of them will leave of their own accord once a National Policy is enforced. As for the others, deputize a hundred thousand White Men and the problem will be over in a week or two. Some disruption can be expected in the Agricultural sector but a massive Federal (I’m not against the Feds if they would work FOR Americans) Program (voluntary) involving Youths, the Unemployed, Convicts, should take up the slack until a more regular work force is back in place.
    If the Goverment was respectful and ASKED us for help now and then – miracles might happen.

  473. progress2conserve December 29, 2011 at 7:40 pm #

    “democratic nazis- i mean underground…”
    -Charles Fox Trot-
    Son of a bitch, CF! You got banned from Democratic Underground. That is amazing. Truly.
    I had never actually visited DU until you mentioned it on CFN this week. It looks like a Politically Correct circle jerk to me.
    And a I checked out their “rules.”
    What a bunch of wieners!
    Here’s my favorite “rule.”
    “Democratic Underground has a team of volunteer moderators who delete posts and ban disruptors. Their job is extremely difficult, and it is made even moreso when DU members post messages in public second-guessing their decisions or accusing them of bias. Please do not post messages complaining about rule enforcement, except in the Ask The Administrators forum. Do not accuse the moderators or administrators of bias. Do not ‘call-out’ the moderators/administrators over specific enforcement action.”
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html
    Lord o’ Mercy! And THESE are the people who are supposed to save us from the Right Wing Authoritarians?????

  474. progress2conserve December 29, 2011 at 7:55 pm #

    “Stop them from coming? That’s it? Let’s get the ones all ready here out too.”
    -vlad-
    Not going to happen, Vlad. You can advocate for it, but it’s not going to happen.
    Hell! Nothing is going to happen.
    The people who should be concerned about immigration – the Greens, the leftists, the Labor Unionists, etc.
    Those people sold their souls to Politically Correct Claptrap, years ago. Look at what Wage just said about immigration to me. She’d rather spend her time in a Quixotic pursuit of the 1%, than lobby her organizations for a change in policy to benefit the 99%.
    Amazing.

  475. bubbleheadMarc December 29, 2011 at 8:13 pm #

    Don’t forget the no penicillin part of medieval living. As the British character actor C. Aubrey Smith once told David Niven, if he could have lived in any period in history he would’ve chosen the late Victorian era when the British Empire was at its peak, but only if he could take some penicillin back with him in the time machine.

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  476. metuselah December 29, 2011 at 9:01 pm #

    That’s not what Wage said. Wage, very correctly identified the cause of the problem, while you identified just one of the symptoms. But Wage does not go far enough, not really knowing history to the extent that I do. You can’t properly understand the present unless you properly understand the past. And the past has largely been hidden from us by a deliberate effort to instill ignorance of it. There was a 30! year war following the Protestant Reformation. This marked a respite from the VATICAN DARK AGES. But the war never really ended. The war continues on under different guises and under different proxies, with more and more ground being lost to the forces of darkness, ignorance, totalitarianism, who have mastered the art of deception and Machiavellianism. EVERYONE HERE needs to learn this. EVERYONE in the world needs to learn this. Or we are doomed to return to the DARK AGES.
    Vatican Assassins – Eric Phelps on the Jesuits Part 5 – YouTube
    – goo.gl/PHlCQ
    This is a must watch!

  477. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 9:11 pm #

    ‘Neworld, antisoak and julietta are barely coherent at their best.
    And yet, like the herd animal that you, as a human, are, you align yourself with them. It’s pathetic, really.’
    No you are pitiful..
    [and I need to get away from this blog]

  478. Eleuthero December 29, 2011 at 10:16 pm #

    I worked for ten years at the Stanford Research Institute and the author of a programming text given a 5-star rating on both Amazon and Slashdot. I help thousands of people get into universities, graduate programs, and jobs.
    Yeah, my life is worthless. I knew that my initial suspicions about the NATURE of your “agreements” with me would come to fruition. You’re another cookie-cutter blog doofus who has nothing better to do than write a thousand posts.
    Look, shit-for-brains, if you can’t find rates of violent crime for yourself in all your favorite demographic groups in a TRICE, you’re a twit. You came to this site after other people and myself had posted such statistics many, many times over. Just because you’re a newbie we “owe” you bupkus.
    I’ve followed your screeds with others on this site and you’re just a brainless follow of “isms”. I have many disagreements with Vlad, but he’s a man of depth and letters compared to you. He’s a WORTHY adversary. You are an effete dimbulb who spends his days here while telling people like me that they are phony after a LIFETIME of accomplishment. What a maroon.
    E.

  479. mika. December 29, 2011 at 10:34 pm #

    “El Toro”, what do you call the crimes committed by the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer, who is very common specimen among the “white race”? Is that not a violent crime? How many such crimes have been committed by Blacks? What do you call the crimes committed by the nazi US military criminals or the nazi NATO criminals? Are these not violent crimes? How many such crimes have been committed by Black armies?
    The fact is, the “white race” is the most criminally inclined race of all of the races. Its whole savage history is marked by one gruesome genocide after another. History will not forget and will not be forgive you for this. It can’t afford to. You will be vomited out of existence. Mark my words!

  480. Hancock1863 December 29, 2011 at 10:46 pm #

    ProgorCons, old chum, I think I’d secretly hoped that you’d convince ME that I was extreme and reaching.
    As I have said to many people in the real world and here over the last two years, Obama proves pretty conclusively that there is no hope, and sure as shit no change.
    For both parties, every answer is to increase corporate-aristocratic power, to shovel money at the 0.01%, to build an even deeper, more comical (at least to those few of us who haven’t voluntarily joined Idiocracy) towers of lies built upon lies, and to prepare for the (hopefully) inevitable day that lower and/or middle class people fight back.
    JHK had it spot on, “You see what happens: in the absence of the rule of law even prudent men turn to the reptile agencies of mind.”
    JFK, before HW Bush and his team (likely) splattered his melon, also said it true, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.”
    http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/images/bushwarning.jpg
    This is the driving reason behind the NDAA (inevitable peasant pushback), and it is no damned coincidence that it comes sharp on the heels of the first nationally coordinated sweep of Occupy.
    Our Aristocrats absolutely ADORE the Teabaggers. A finer bunch of thoughtless, cruel, historically ignorant, weak-minded, easily lied to and manipulated buffoons hasn’t been seen since the Brownshirts. Maybe the Soviet Comissar/Party types but as they are Lefties, the analogy doesn’t make as much sense since both 21st Century America and Nazi Germany were/are Righties.
    They will be extremely useful to their Overlords and Masters, but then, they always have been, whether burning “witches” in the 16th Century or sneaking up from behind and bashing the head of the caveman who asked why Og the Mighty ate all the food and decided who gets the scraps.
    “Who made Og God? OG made Og God?”
    That sad truth is that Og was and is correct. The same dynamic persists today.
    8000 years is too short a timespan for humanity to have evolved even the tiniest bit. Thus, nothing has changed at bottom, just the layers of hypercomplexity, massive amounts of cheap energy, it’s attendant technology. and of course the deep understanding of behavioral and mass psychology by the Aristocracy and their ability to massively deliver it to their victims via modern media saturation.
    As to your criticism of the Liberal types over at DU, I can’t disagree. As I have said before, it seems Liberalism screwed itself by abandoning economic justice and fairness for identity politics. And by trying to be so righteous and fair they became scared of their own shadows for being so “nice”.
    I remember a time when I was working on a Democratic Congressional campaign a few years ago and suggested at least delivering back a little of the vitriol the Republicans were directing at us.
    “We don’t want to make the Republicans mad,” replied the young lady. I never felt so much like screaming in someone’s face in many years. I didn’t, but it felt like I popped a blood vessel swallowing my anger. My face must have been beet red – sure felt that way.
    After a few seconds and I could speak without yelling, I said to her, “Maybe you should consider why you and our Party are so afraid of making the Republicans mad, but they fear making you and us mad not at all. I have to go home now.”
    I do believe that was the last day I ever worked on a Democratic Congressional campaign.
    Now that it all has been revealed as a joke of a rigged puppet show, I wonder if the Left side of TPTB (at the top) purposefully tanked the game because the Commies were already obviously on their way to defeat and thus no more reason to treat we Peasants other than the lowly dogs the Aristocracy sees us as. So, it was time for the RW to take back over and pistol-whip the American Subjects back to the 14th Century, where our upstart asses belong.
    But I digress. My point about DU is that in spite of your criticisms, these are the people primarily supporting Occupy. Not just with pointless blog posts, but with money and sometimes their bodies.
    These are the people who woke up to what was going on in the wake of 9/11, and with all due respect, probably did it at a time when you were still cheering on the Afghan & Iraq Invasions.
    They are the people who dug and uncovered so many RW Fox News lies, who exposed in detail the machanisms of their Nazi v2.0 Der Sturmer/Fox News propaganda machine, when CNN and MSNBC fell for the lies and double-standards time and time and time again, which they still do, only with a little more plausible deniability.
    So, I cut DU some slack. To my way of thinking, for whatever faults they may have, they and people like them did us all a great service in standing tall when 90%+ people were cheering on the Patriot Act and all the rest of the precursors, without which Obama could NEVER have done what he’s done to curtail our few remaining civil liberties. Hell, they were 95% gone by the time Obama got selected anyway. He just administered the fatal blow. None of it happens without 9/11 and Bush.
    Just something to think about. And indeed, if you were a part of the 95%+ of Americans completely and totally snowed by the pre-Iraq lying propaganda, including Colin Powell reprising von Ribbentrop’s role in the Poland invasion at the UN, then you have absolutely nothing to criticize them about.
    In fact, and with all due respect, if what I said is even partially true, you should wish you were half as prescient as some of them.
    =========================================
    Finally, some comments on your comments.
    I agree about Obama’s second term, which is a virtual certainty because he has done such an excellent job for the Aristocracy and done it in such a way as to nullify opposition from the Left and Moderates, who likely would be taking to the streets in terror and anger if Bush/Cheney had passed the 2011 NDAA and half the tranparently tyrranical shit Obama has done.
    But hey, since it’s “our” guy, it’s OK! Right?
    On another topic, I did read JMG for awhile, but he didn’t catch my interest the way JHK and some others have.
    You said:

    But the brainwashers and Authoritarians who came to power with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 – now have had too much time, too much technology, and too much money.
    Their skills are perfected. I do believe we are on the downslope of the end of freedom in the US – whateverthehell freedom even means, any more.

    Agreed.
    Of all the scientific contributions America has made, perhaps the most significant would be our perfection of the Sciences of Lying, Decepetion, and Mass Manipulation.
    hooray. so very proud.
    Finally, because of you, Johnny Reb, I won’t ever look at the Civil War quite the same anymore, because the undercurrent that it directly led to the Robber Baron era which has been revived today, so that is one seriously negative aspect of what was largely a just war.
    Unintended consequences? Or intended? Do the Bilderberg RICO-conspiracies reach back that far? US Grant was bankrupted and pauperized by unscrupulous Wall Streeters late in life, thus the famous pictures of him dying of cancer in pain on his porch, furiously writing his memoirs to restore his family’s fortune before he died.
    Does that sound like the criminally incestuous, lucrative and corrupt close relationship between Obama or Bush and Wall Street?
    Maybe it did all start in 1913 with the creation of the Fed, coincdientally followed swiftly by the War to End All Wars (now THERE’S some good PR!)
    By the by, check out the movie Wage posted. It’s long but worth watching, if only for the “lost” history in the first part.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IyPzGUsYyKM

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  481. charliefoxtrot December 29, 2011 at 10:56 pm #

    i know, right?! thing is, most of the posts, and the comments had nothing whatsoever to do with the stated mission of replacing republicans with democrats- and comments quickly degenerated into either mutual stroking, or petty snarkiness about facts and semantics- wait, where have i seen that…anyway, i responded to a newslink about how carbon nanotubes were found in the lungs of first responders- and i d already seen a doc about thermite residue having been found in the remains of ground zero- so of course i immediately saw incontrovertible proof for what apparently is a divisive point of view…not trying to have the whole argument again, mind you, i respect all the reasons why some reject the possibility, but given the name of the blog i wouldn t have thought THAT would have got me kicked out turns out conspiracy is specifically not a topic of discussion- which i found out by reading all of the tsa…seems we re doomed if these are the kind of people in the democratic vanguard- not that i am all that enamored of the actions of any political party, at this point! figure i ll be voting with my 9s and my 44s from here on out: have something useful in your hands; you ll be visible for about 300 yards before you see me…

  482. ABSALOM December 29, 2011 at 11:11 pm #

    E, if you’re saying that crime statistics alone prove that a given race is inferior to another, you’re full of shit and nothing but a cherry picker.
    =====================================
    E wrote:
    I worked for ten years at the Stanford Research Institute and the author of a programming text given a 5-star rating on both Amazon and Slashdot. I help thousands of people get into universities, graduate programs, and jobs.
    =======================================
    This doesn’t make sense and it’s not clear what your getting at. You seem to be saying, “I have credentials and authority, so believe me when I talk outta my asshole!” Anyhow, I’ve offered SEVERAL points of contention to your point of view to which you’ve side stepped EVERY ONE. I know your feelings are hurt, E. But throwing a tantrum and tossing me into some generic category of Liberalism only proves that you’re an idiot.
    So you don’t want to offer me a reference, fair enough. It wasn’t a demand, it was a challenge, and you backed down. But don’t get mad that I offered material that would disconfirm your line of thinking, even with out seeing your stats. I made a legitimate attempt at an exchange of ideas with you, and you pussed out. As do all of the other fuktards you throw in with on racial debates. You never bothered to consider the material I submitted, or, if you did, didn’t have the wherewithal to say, “hey, this is where the material you offered is incorrect and your understanding of it is wrong.” Instead you abandoned the topic you, yourself, instigate and start cryin for someone to take your side and speak to your good name here on CFN. Bitch.
    I’ve taken issue with both Libs and Cons on this site, albeit in an obnoxious way, but I’ve at all times been willing to eat my words and change my perspective given good cause. If you’re supposedly a learned man, fight the fight, pussy. Don’t cop out then cry that a newbie has knocked you off your pedestal. Oh, and as to your bogus resume screed: No amount of scientific eminence trumps scientific evidence.
    Calculator boy, wipe your tears.
    Since you lack the integrity to stay on point, this will be my last bother with the topic as I made a deal with BIll. But you and your bunch do this sidesteppin’ shit all the time, then have the audacity to say, “My reputation precedes itself.” Put the barrel of the shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger already, adenoidal fool.
    ABSALOM

  483. asoka. December 29, 2011 at 11:27 pm #

    Ron Paul said: “The one thing that is very important though — there has never been in the history of mankind a slave revolt. That doesn’t happen. What usually happened is that men of principle who are free, free the slaves and then they join the revolution.”
    =============
    Talk about historical revisionism.
    I guess Ron Paul has not heard of the Underground Railroad, Nat Turner, or Haiti. Paul seems about as smart as Bachmann.

  484. anti soak December 29, 2011 at 11:58 pm #

    I call him raped [by blacks?] in Juvenile detention or foster care..check the records and see if im right.

  485. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:00 am #

    ‘seems about as smart as Bachmann.’
    Which may be alot smarter than you.

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  486. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:07 am #

    ‘What gives?’
    Shes too busy calling others here ‘barely coherent’
    [sic insane, delirious etc].

  487. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:11 am #

    ‘You’d think Dale at least would undertand these things. But no.’
    Methinks Dr Dale wants to admonish you, as he would a small truant child!

  488. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:29 am #

    DETROIT, Anyone?
    from SBPDL:
    There are those who would blame white people for every problem in this nation.
    Even white flight itself.
    White flight is just a natural defensive mechanism to the escape the Black Undertow and the crime, property value drop, dereliction of infrastructure, and the decimation of the business district that follows this group.
    In the coming weeks, Detroit will be taken over by the state of Michigan. Even though white people built a world-class city, full of architectural marvels that rivaled those found anywhere else on the planet, the Black people who inherited Detroit after the calamitous ‘race'[black] war of 1967 (and the subsequent white abandonment of the city) have been unable to maintain a modicum of what they were unceremoniously bequeathed.
    The Los Angeles Times bashed white people for the failure of the city, when it was white people ingenuity that was responsible for the greatness of Detroit in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  489. Ixnei December 30, 2011 at 12:32 am #

    Are you really trying to say Cheney gave a *STAND DOWN* order on 9/11/01? Are you really trying to pretend, that even after the 50’s/60’s, when we had clear view of all aircraft over the US via RADAR, and when they dissolved all those RADAR platforms in the oceans in ’63 due to AWAKS, that in the late 70’s/early 80’s we didn’t have a GPS AWAKS system over the entire *PLANET*?
    It’s very ludicrous to believe that anything *EVER* could have penetrated Washington DC, since about 1980 or so. Yet, in 2001, *SUB-SONIC* aircraft did – and even hit the *PENTAGON*.
    YOU ARE ALL ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL. WAKE THE FUCK UP.

  490. San Jose Mom 51 December 30, 2011 at 12:38 am #

    Dear Eleuthero,
    Don’t bother about Aboslum. He has yet to write a word that would send me to the dictionary. The depth of your wisdom is a gift to this community.
    SJmom

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  491. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 12:50 am #

    Winston Churchill tells the World of the leading role the Jews played in the Russian Revolution and subsequent atrocities.
    http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/WSCwrote1920.html

  492. charliefoxtrot December 30, 2011 at 12:59 am #

    ??? i believe i have said before that i don t believe anything about the “official” story, because when i watched the event live, i saw the explosions, and recognized demolition when all three buildings collapsed at 9.8m/s/s into their own footprints…no lie told after the fact controverts what we call the laws of physics…and that hole in the pentagon was not caused by a plane; nor was that hastily dug ditch filled with rusty scrap metal…google ‘loose change’, there are many details which taken individually would constitute reasonable doubt; all together, they point to treasonous mass murder

  493. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 1:07 am #

    Good article. Reminds me of a Black girl from Haiti in one of my classes. She blamed the United States for Haiti’s plight: “The United States wont come and help us”. But we have – three times I believe.
    Blacks believe in the White Man’s Burden. But they simultaneously consider themselves equal if not superior. Nor do they want to say thank you or feel any gratitude. Sounds like a bad deal to me. Sounds like they want us to be their slaves. I mean if you met someone who acted like this you’d stay the fuck away from them. Why should this be any different?

  494. Ixnei December 30, 2011 at 2:13 am #

    When you have a million+++ 6-fig-salaried-govt-stalkaz, it’s very evident what the *OUTCOME* will be.
    I seek someone to argue that the AWACS system from the 70’s, in the same-said satellites that GPS navigation systems exist, for some reason *FAILED*. Or, someone to come forth and tell us how/why Cheney called out *STAND DOWN*.
    It was very clear we infiltrated “terrorist” cells, and planted ideas – then let those ideas happen. Is that an INSIDE JOB?!?
    C wut I did there?

  495. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 4:02 am #

    Yes, destruction is easier than construction. Sure anyone can take something apart, but can they put it back together – much less have created it in the first place?
    It took Michelangelo over twenty years to pain the Sistine Chapel but a madman with a hammer and can of spray paint could destroy it in a few minutes.
    What took the White Man ages to create will be destroyed by Blacks and Browns in a few decades.

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  496. tegmark December 30, 2011 at 6:40 am #

    From:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=177766
    Already, in the three stooges economies, USA, EU and JAPAN, there are millions upon millions of idle people, pensioners, unemployed, people working fake jobs, you name it. No one is producing anything real or concrete anymore, it is all about “services” which means BS, crap, make believe stuff, financial gimmicks, banks, real estate bubbles, education (what on earth else must people be educated in ? what other new information is necessary ? when all of what is important has been the same for decades ? this huge BS of all these new “issues” and “studies” like “women’s studies”, or “psychology”, you name it, fluff and crap, invent any crap and you are “education”) you name it, “health care” (how to rip off as much money as possible on fake sicknesses, on all kinds of complications, pills, exams, checkups, you name, paranoia of all kinds of imaginary sicknesses, huge mega crap, etc.) a whole boatload of mega crap, all the millions working in “offices” as in office politics, all the “communications” between people wasting time talking (through cell phones, iphones, ipads, internet, etc.) about puny power struggles, marketing, how to sell imaginary “skills” and “value added” and such crap, kill them all, hate them with all your guts.
    Just imagine how much real wealth you could get if you made all of those millions of idle people work in hobby factories just for fun, maybe just one or two hours a day instead of watching TV all day long, building 1966 oldsmobile 98s, skyscrapers, rockets to mars, you name it !
    Now how can an economic system that doesn’t produce anything anymore, that has almost everyone idle and wasting time just fighting each other for fun (like lawyers) have so many trillions of dollars floating around in banks ? Because the system generates wealth automatically, independent of any work, work has nothing at all to do with the Technological Economy, work is a ghost, a make believe fairy tale that justifies the rich hogging up ever more profit because people “don’t work hard enough” (when in all truth there is nothing left to do, even if you wanted to).
    No one is producing real things anymore, no one is producing concrete things, manufacturing where work really is work, achievment can be measured, you are really creating something like when you produce skyscrapers, cars, high speed trains, rockets to mars, etc. Everyone wants to waste time on imaginary “innovation” and “research” when all innovation and research that really counts is done and finished, there is very little real new discoveries that can be made (you can’t discover electricity all over again or the Computer or Windows or the Internet, etc.), now it is all about applying the technology as in what do you want to do with the know how you got ? build supercomputers to exchange money and poker games or computers to go to mars and such ?
    The only new discovery left is sticking wild stuff in brains and designing new brains to enter new worlds.
    All services serve to just make believe that there is “work to do” when nothing is left to do, like health care, fixing broken people, that is a loss, that should be a huge loss, instead that generates trillions of dollars of “economic activity”, go figure, what an idiotic economic system: but all the economists and politicians keep on pretending that there is a linearity between “work” and “wealth”, nothing further from the truth, this system doesn’t produce anything anymore, has millions upon millions already idle just sponging off the free money the Technological Economy generates automatically and asking for “jobs”, imaginary jobs that will never come back unless you force them with huge public private projects, trillions of skyscrapers and rockets.
    AN APE

  497. bubbleheadMarc December 30, 2011 at 7:06 am #

    Sounds like blaming the victim to me. Are you saying that all of the black people participated in the riots back in the mid to late ‘sixties? Also, it should be evident at this point that everyone’s definition of a “good” school is one which contains virtually no persons “of color”. So in other words, swap the kids out between one exurban and one urban school and you have magically transformed the bad school into a good school and vice versa, without even swapping the staff, but only the kids. This is kind of like blaming the workers for the decline of the American auto industry when it was clearly management’s fault that they were designing a crap product for so many decades. And yes, whites are responsible for white flight because at least here in Cleveland it was a white federal judge who found for the NAACP and handed down the court order which forced cross-town busing, something even the blacks disliked. By the way, the blacks also move to the suburbs to escape the Cleveland Public Schools although often to their own suburbs on the east side.

  498. messianicdruid December 30, 2011 at 7:56 am #

    “A finer bunch of thoughtless, cruel, historically ignorant, weak-minded, easily lied to and manipulated buffoons hasn’t been seen since the Brownshirts.”
    “The human race is what it is. There is no point, no profit in being frustrated with it. We just have to interact with people the best we can. We can’t effectively and honestly do that, if we disrespect them by thinking them idiots. They are not idiots, they are just outside their area of expertise.
    John Taylor Gatto apparently agrees with me: ?“The shocking possibility that dumb people don’t exist in sufficient numbers to warrant the careers devoted to tending to them will seem incredible to you. Yet that is my proposition: Mass dumbness first had to be imagined; it isn’t real.” I didn’t believe this when I first read it years ago, but I understand what he’s getting at now.
    Now, defective worldviews, which are the real problem here, are not perfectly immutable. They tend to break down when events overwhelm us. There are now a lot of people whose worldviews are breaking. The evidence is all around us with Tea Parties and Occupy movements. People are trying to form new worldviews to compensate for a reality that has whacked them like a 2×4 across the nose. Yes, they make missteps, and yes, the ruling class tries to co-opt them and funnel them into “safe” (for the rulers) paths, but this is just the beginning. It’s bound to accelerate as the empire crumbles and the dollar dies. We need to be ready for that, to help people find better worldviews with the aid of our hard-earned expertise, using tools like the Internet. No, we are not going to turn them all into political philosophers–but we don’t need to. To quote Mark Train again, “Education consists mainly of what we have unlearned.”
    Consider one historical event. I have read several times that people in America in the 1750s and 1760s considered themselves Englishmen and wanted desperately to be accepted by English society. How did this feeling morph into its complete opposite by so many people, in just 20 years, leading to successful armed rebellion? I think it was a shift in worldview. There can be huge, almost impossible-seeming changes to worldviews in a short period of time.
    One other huge problem with the “people are idiots” meme that Gatto above alluded to is how seamlessly it feeds into the “people need to be taken care of” meme. He continues, “Once the dumb are wished into existence, they serve valuable functions: as a danger to themselves and others they have to be watched, classified, disciplined, trained, medicated, sterilized, ghettoized, cajoled, coerced, jailed.” If ever there was a meme that supports the state, it is this one.”
    http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?57158-The-Problem-With-the-People-Are-Idiots-Meme

  499. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 8:02 am #

    Ron Paul: Jews control everything.
    Ron Paul: I will eliminate foreign aid including all aid to Israel.
    Any doubts about Ron Paul’s stupidity?

  500. ozone December 30, 2011 at 8:28 am #

    MD,
    I’m finding the discussion between you and HC1863 to be thought-provoking (and therefor, of value).
    Thank you both.
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
    No, we are not going to turn them all into political philosophers–but we don’t need to. To quote Mark Train again, “Education consists mainly of what we have unlearned.” -MD
    “If we’d been born where they were born and taught what they were taught, we would believe what they believe.”– A sign inside a church in Northern Ireland, explaining the origin of intolerance and hate -(from today’s “header” on ICH)
    (Personally, I’ve unlearned quite a few things I was taught, even in the time period of being a child. But AS a child, this path produced a lot of inner anxiety. That’s what one gets for resisting social and familial conditioning. As social coherency is falling away at a more and more rapid pace, due mainly to the worship of Mammon and Material Comfort, it bothers me less and less. My resistance is being vindicated; and I’m just finding that sad for those who will have to ‘unlearn’ the hard way, as well as for me.)

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  501. ozone December 30, 2011 at 8:36 am #

    Sounds like blaming the victim to me. -BHM
    And, as you already know, that would be the whole point. Make sure the anger of the lumpenprole is directed at (and distracted by) the irrelevant/incorrect target, and one can steal the very earth from beneath their feet without notice.

  502. ozone December 30, 2011 at 8:44 am #

    …And, as a knock-on effect, we’ll shortly see some very distractionary postings to turn us away from contemplations of terrible import and into the realm of blather. Just watch (casually).

  503. DeeJones December 30, 2011 at 8:56 am #

    “Now that it all has been revealed as a joke of a rigged puppet show, I wonder if the Left side of TPTB (at the top) purposefully tanked the game because the Commies were already obviously on their way to defeat and thus no more reason to treat we Peasants other than the lowly dogs the Aristocracy sees us as. So, it was time for the RW to take back over and pistol-whip the American Subjects back to the 14th Century, where our upstart asses belong.”
    I was just about to write this whole blog off, then you posted this, one of the best posts on here in a long time.
    Thanks, maybe I’ll come back to read some more.
    There might be some home yet….
    Well, ‘cept for Vlad.
    😉

  504. ozone December 30, 2011 at 9:00 am #

    Slightly off-topic, but right in JHK’s wheelhouse, an idea to chew on from Dmitri O., in DIRECT contradiction of the transparent lies I’m hearing RIGHT NOW from NPR’s Marketplace:
    “There is no known method of scaling industry down to boutique size, to serve just the needs of the elite, or to provide life support to social, financial and political institutions that co-evolved with industry in absence of industry. It also bears pointing out that fossil fuel use was very tightly correlated with human population size on the way up, and is likely to remain so on the way down. Thus, it may not be necessary to look too far past the peak in global oil production to see major disruption of global industry, which will make other fossil fuels irrelevant.”

  505. Pucker December 30, 2011 at 9:02 am #

    Do you have any Small Change-that-you-can-believe-in? The smallest note that I’ve got in my wallet is a five dollar bill. Thanks.
    “Pucker —
    It’s not all that often that Michelle and I get to host a casual meal with friends.
    That’s one of the reasons we’re both excited about the upcoming dinner with three supporters and your guests.
    It’s the first one we’ve ever done like this together, and we’d love to have you and whoever you choose to join us.
    Chip in $3 or whatever you can today — and you’ll automatically be entered to be one of our dinner guests.
    I enjoy these dinners not just because they’re a way to connect with supporters across the country.
    They also say a lot about what kind of campaign we’re running.
    We don’t take a dime from D.C. lobbyists or special-interest PACs — never have and never will. Instead, we believe in the kind of politics that gives everyone a seat at the table — so we’re literally offering these seats at dinner to folks who are willing to step forward and be a part of it.
    There are just a few days left to add your name for a chance to be one of our guests at the next dinner, and help build this campaign before 2012 finally arrives.
    Make a donation of $3 or whatever you can today — and automatically enter to be there:
    https://donate.barackobama.com/Me-and-Michelle
    Thanks,
    Barack”

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  506. ozone December 30, 2011 at 9:15 am #

    “We don’t take a dime from D.C. lobbyists or special-interest PACs — never have and never will. Instead, I make certain that my various bribes and lavish junkets are collected anywhere outside the D.C. incorporated limits. And although “we” don’t take money from lobbyists and PACs, “I” do.
    Thanks for your misguided but nonetheless, continued support,
    -B.O., Presider-in-Chief over Collapse and Savior of the Uber-Wealthy

  507. messianicdruid December 30, 2011 at 10:18 am #

    Well, we’re not really having a conversation yet, but it just irritates me when people [ almost completely ] unknown, are denigrated for one thing they *may* have said or believe.
    The above “quotes” attributed to Ron Paul are a perfect example.

  508. ozone December 30, 2011 at 10:32 am #

    Okay, I’ll call it “commenting further on trenchant comments made”. ;o)
    Thanks for that, in any case.

  509. ozone December 30, 2011 at 10:36 am #

    (gotta git)

  510. old69 December 30, 2011 at 10:55 am #

    From:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=177766
    [quote=”Stoic Guardian”]I don’t think you really understand what you’re talking about though about there being “no jobs” or that people ar actively working to eliminate jobs.
    Your frustration also seems to be influencing you talk of this subject.
    Though it is true that America has forsaken the manufacturing an industrial pontential that was essential for it to reach it’s superpower status.
    This is certainly something that should be remidied.[/quote]
    The APE replies:
    Actually I am the only one in the entire world that really knows what he is talkng about: all the decodings, explanations, theories of the economies are backed up by a completely static and well defined ideology that is decades old (an ideology that the once extreme “revolutionary left” called the “bourgeoisie ideology”: An entire interpretation of all things social and economical according to a model that has been imposed by liberalism, capitalism, “hard work”, linearity between “work and wealth”, “competition”, etc.) that always proposes the same old solutions and the same old interpretations to all things economical, like a total monolithic brainwashing.
    This idea that for example “work creates wealth”, “people must deserve it”, “competition creates new jobs and wealth”, “more innovation will create more jobs”, “more education is needed”, and so on and so forth according to a complete gospel repeated by every living soul on earth for decades results in no one ever really questioning all of these assumptions, all of these “laws of physics”, all of these “apparent truths”. And this non questioning makes all of the government proposals (all right wing, pro rich proposals) all of the proposals all the capitalist superstars propose like Steve Jobs (ironic name if ever), Bill Gates, etc. with their fairy tale myth that “you can do it too, you can invent the next new ipad and make billions too, you can innovate, research and discover electricity all over again, etc.” are the only possible proposals imaginable. Cut salaries, fire workers, more “small businesses”, etc. etc.
    But all of this ideology serves to hide what this economic system really is and what it is really doing, what the real trends are, behind all of the BS, and the real trends are simply: WORK IS NO LONGER NEEDED. PERIOD. WORK AND LABOR IS USELESS, THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE AVAILABLE FOR LABOR AND WORK COMPARED TO WHAT THE ECONOMIC SYSTEM CAN POSSIBLE USE. PERIOD. THE SYSTEM HAS HUGE ECONOMIES OF SCALE, HAS OPTIMIZED PRODUCTION IN ALL ENDEAVORS, AND CAN FREELY GIVE OUT SCOTT FREE HANDOUTS TO ALL WITHOUT COMPROMISING ANYTHING AT ALL OF THE WORKINGS OF THE SYSTEM, AND INDEED, BY GIVING SCOTT FREE HANDOUTS, IT COULD INCREASE IT’S PRODUCTIVE OUTPUT BY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDES AND BECOME EVEN RICHER AND HAVE EVEN MORE EXCESS CAPACITY. WE NOW LIVE IN AN INFINITE RESOURCE SYSTEM AND SOCIETY. PERIOD.
    But by saying this, you completely demolish all of the ideological construction both the right wing and left wing have been brainwashed with for decades: they just can’t accept the reality that we are way too rich to know what to do with it, aside from creating huge financial turmoil and giving trillions of scott free handouts in terms of profits to the already super rich.
    And the left and OWSers and such only criticize the status quo according to an even falser and worse ideology: the Resource Scarcity Myths chanting that there is “no more oil and energy” (never has there been a greater lie), that there are “too many people” (never has there been a greater lie), etc. That “consumerism” is bad, we must protect “nature”, and an entire host of other idiotic truths that serve to maintain the status quo, just as much as those idiots that say the problems of unemployment is due to “people don’t work hard enough”.
    All false, all lies, Oil is simply carbon chemistry, and science already and will have ever more substitutes for it, resources are infinite, just by building skycrapers you can increase the wealth of societies and have even more resources by the boatloads, etc. By space exploration and travel ever more resources can be found, nature is not a religion, it is a tool for us to use, we have huge excess capacity in terms of people, know how, technology, idle people, you name it to achieve anything at all.
    But the starting point would be to give out: SCOTT FREE HANDOUTS TO ALL, 800 DOLLARS A MONTH AND CHEAP RENTS 200 DOLLARS A MONTH TO ALL JUST TO BEGIN. AND THEN HUGE PUBLIC – PRIVTAE PROJECTS LIKE TRILLIONS OF SKYSCRAPERS AND TRILLIONS OF ROCKETS TO MARS, TRILLIONS OF 1966 OLDSMOBILE NINETY EIGHTS, TRILLIONS OF LINCOLN CONTINENTIALS, YOU NAME IT, ETC.
    But we keep on having all of the old solutions repeated over and over again that will not make our society go an inch forward anymore, the greens and resource scarcity myths telling us all to go back to the stone ages, the capitalists and economists telling us to work harder and get more educated for imaginary jobs that will never come to be.
    TOBOR APE MAN

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  511. wagelaborer December 30, 2011 at 11:01 am #

    As I pointed out before, abortion was accepted, even by the Catholic church, until recently. And Prog pointed out that the Baptists also were relatively sanguine about it. And my Mormon aunt had an abortion in the 40s.
    So you’re wrong, again.
    And my aunt was a nazi. Not my grandma.
    And you said that you didn’t watch Fox News.

  512. old69 December 30, 2011 at 11:01 am #

    Some corrections for your thesis:
    But all of this ideology serves to hide what this economic system really is and what it is really doing, what the real trends are, behind all of the BS, and the real trends are simply: WORK IS NO LONGER NEEDED. PERIOD. WORK AND LABOR IS USELESS, THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE AVAILABLE FOR LABOR AND WORK COMPARED TO WHAT THE ECONOMIC SYSTEM CAN POSSIBLY USE. PERIOD. THE SYSTEM HAS HUGE ECONOMIES OF SCALE, HAS OPTIMIZED PRODUCTION IN ALL ENDEAVORS, AND CAN FREELY GIVE OUT SCOTT FREE HANDOUTS TO ALL WITHOUT COMPROMISING ANYTHING AT ALL OF THE WORKINGS OF THE SYSTEM, AND INDEED, BY GIVING SCOTT FREE HANDOUTS, IT COULD INCREASE IT’S PRODUCTIVE OUTPUT BY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDES AND BECOME EVEN RICHER AND HAVE EVEN MORE EXCESS CAPACITY. WE NOW LIVE IN AN INFINITE RESOURCE SYSTEM AND SOCIETY. PERIOD.
    But the starting point would be to give out: SCOTT FREE HANDOUTS TO ALL, 800 DOLLARS A MONTH AND CHEAP RENTS 200 DOLLARS A MONTH TO ALL JUST TO BEGIN. AND THEN HUGE PUBLIC – PRIVATE PROJECTS LIKE TRILLIONS OF SKYSCRAPERS AND TRILLIONS OF ROCKETS TO MARS, TRILLIONS OF 1966 OLDSMOBILE NINETY EIGHTS, TRILLIONS OF LINCOLN CONTINENTIALS, YOU NAME IT, ETC.
    But we keep on having all of the old solutions repeated over and over again that will not make our society go an inch forward anymore, the greens and resource scarcity myths telling us all to go back to the stone ages, the capitalists and economists telling us to work harder and get more educated for imaginary jobs that will never come to be.

  513. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 11:06 am #

    Hey asshole, what colour is your skin?

  514. wagelaborer December 30, 2011 at 11:08 am #

    So Hancock says pretty much the same thing as I did, and you praise him and offer to man the barricades with him.
    Then you express exasperation with me.
    What is this, some male bonding thing?
    By the way, I think that welfare is used the same way as immigration, to divide the 99%.
    In the 30s, most people’s anger was directed at the idle rich. And the US was fairly close to revolution. At least close enough to scare them into reform.
    Now, they pay off the most destitute, and deflect the anger of the working poor downward, toward the idle poor, instead of upward, toward the idle rich.
    It’s a win-win situation. For the ruling class, Prog, just like immigration. Not for us.

  515. wagelaborer December 30, 2011 at 11:15 am #

    I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, antisoak.
    I was just trying to make a point to Vlad. Surely you realize that you don’t use proper grammar?
    And if you’re that thinskinned, why do you insult me all the time? You can dish it out, but you can’t take it?

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  516. Buck Stud December 30, 2011 at 11:16 am #

    It didn’t take twenty years.

  517. wagelaborer December 30, 2011 at 11:19 am #

    I can’t believe how much time I spend defending Ron Paul, mostly to my Facebook friends, who gleefully do the bidding of the ruling class by attacking him.
    Asoka, I thought that you were smarter than that. If the corporate media, the Dems and the Repubs present a united attack upon one person, than that one person is CLEARLY a threat to them!!
    How come I can see that, and Jon Stewart can see that, and Glen Greenwald can see that, and Robert Scheer can see that, but you and my clueless Facebook friends can’t?
    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/marginalizing_ron_paul_20111229/
    Save you ire for your corporate overlords, and not the one corporate party candidate who dares to criticize their plans to enslave you.

  518. wagelaborer December 30, 2011 at 11:22 am #

    Again, I can’t decipher your comment.
    Are you saying that Cheney didn’t need to give a stand down order because they used a missile?
    You are very difficult to understand.

  519. Buck Stud December 30, 2011 at 11:27 am #

    That’s a very astute observation by D Orlov, IMO. Sort of like aspens leafs trying to shimmer golden but without the trunk and boughs. In other words, it ain’t happening, or at least not naturally. But we’re not talking about naturalists; we’re talking deviants corrupted by the greed of a regressive ideology. Mental illness, in other words. They’re the metaphorical equivalent of Al Pacino’s “Scarface” buried in mountains of cocaine: deranged, psychotic, violent, insatiable. And I have no doubt they will mow down whoever gets in their way of accumulating ever more obscene amounts of money.

  520. wagelaborer December 30, 2011 at 11:29 am #

    It’s amazing how they do that.
    The auto companies shut down production in Detroit and the racists blame black people for the resulting unemployment and poverty.
    Haiti is slapped with billions of dollars of reparations, and they are blamed for the resulting poverty.
    And Vlad has the nerve to call the US invasions of Haiti “helping them”.
    I’ve never heard him call 9-11 an example of some Arabs “helping us”.
    Here’s a brief link to one of the US invasions and occupations of Haiti. There were more.
    http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0725-20.htm

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  521. wagelaborer December 30, 2011 at 11:36 am #

    Here’s a longer article, which starts with Colombus’s slaughter of the hundreds of thousands of the original inhabitants of the island, and briefly goes through the revolution, the reparations, and the US invasions and occupations, including a quote from Major General Smedley Butler, who called himself a gangster for capitalism.
    http://www.globalissues.org/article/141/haiti
    This article leaves out the role of Wall Street in the 1800s, when Haiti borrowed money from the US bankers to pay off the French, thereby becoming vulnerable to US invasion, instead of French invasion.
    However, to this day, the French participate in the attacks upon Haitian freedom.

  522. wagelaborer December 30, 2011 at 11:40 am #

    Yeah, that’s what amazes me about the ruling class. Sure, they have their underground bunker, as Joe Baegant pointed out, but who will be their servants, when they kill off the rest of us?
    Who will grow their food, sew their clothes, mine the coal for their electricity?
    What is the point of saving 4,000 spoiled rich people?
    Won’t they be surprised when the food runs out, and no one fetches them more?

  523. dale December 30, 2011 at 11:43 am #

    Any doubts about Ron Paul’s stupidity?
    ———————————
    I don’t think he is stupid, but an ideologue? no doubt.
    As for Israel, it might have been better if we had stopped aid years ago, in which case they would likely have been forced to make peace when it was more to their benefit. As it is, time is not on their side.
    The same can be said for WWI BTW, if we hadn’t got involved, a peace between Germany and the Allies, who were both exhausted, would have been more congenial, in which case, no Hitler.
    The above are both good examples of ‘unintended consequences’
    Right now, that is why I refuse to support either party in the US. While the Republicans are even more reprehensible than the Dems, we just might be better off if the country elected a real RW doozie. Maybe then the people would wake up.
    On the US waking up, I won’t be betting any money. The decline here seems more like Rome or Athens, than the U.K. Serious, systemic, and potentially catastropic. If I were under thirty, I’d be getting the hell out of here.

  524. Hancock1863 December 30, 2011 at 11:50 am #

    You’re right about the penicillin. I think I might place anesthesia and painkillers on equal footing in terms of things we couldn’t live without were we forcefully transported to the past.
    It’s hard to conceive that, other than laudanum (an imperfect painkiller, at best, from what I’ve read) most every human who ever lived had to suffer the full brunt of every pulled tooth, every wound’s pain, etc. etc.
    What could the pain of a fully awake amputation feel like? A frightening concept indeed, yet tens of millions (if not more) endured it.
    People around here seem to be rooting for Peak Oil and TLE to clean things up and relocalize us into a better place.
    Human history, all of it, says otherwise is bold lettering.
    But beyond that, the decline and/or loss of oil-fueled industrial agriculture will be strongly seconded by the decline/loss of industrialized medicine.
    As bad as things might be now, as insane, ludicrous and slimily PR-coated-built on a foundation of disgusting lies, what comes next and thereafter will most certainly be much worse in almost every possible way for a long time.
    In a couple centuries, how many millions of we Plebeians will scream our hearts out under the surgeon’s saw for the halcyon days when oil-fueled painkillers and anesthesia were actually available to even half the populace, instead of only the 1% or even the 0.01%?
    Many millions, almost certainly…if there are that many Plebeians left around in 200 years.
    In the end, this is why we are all in this together keeping the current system of lies going. Because each of us, somewhere, instinctively understands that the end of the Big Lie likely means horror unparalleled, even if it is subconsciously.
    And what else to do? We KNOW that the Aristocrats have something particularly nasty in store for we “useless eaters”, the shape is finally becoming quite clear with NDAA.
    It may be WWIII, or it may be some substitute that mass psychology and PR create as a substitute, given there isn’t enough fuel left to run a proper globe-spanning brutal puppet-fight.
    But it will most assuredly, for all but our Aristocratic Godly Overlords, be horrifyingly worse than all of what is going on today that we bemoan.
    Which is why, as always, even those of us who know better will do our part to keep the Big Lie going for as long as possible, even though we know that the longer we wait to address it, the worse the hitting rock bottom will be.
    To quote Kurt Vonnegut:
    We doodily doodily do
    what we muddly muddly must
    until we bodily bust, we bodily bust
    we bodily bodily bust.

    What a succinct and accurate way to describe the human condition in the 8000 year-old Slave Labor Camp that is human history!

  525. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 11:55 am #

    ‘US invasions of Haiti “helping them”.’
    Well Wage I say the USA/White folk worldwide have helped Haiti in innumerable ways.
    Mainly by taking in their surplus population.
    1 IN 3 OR 4 HAITIANS ARE ALREADY HERE.
    JHK has noted the ‘absurdity of food aid to Haiti’.
    What was the Haitians first act when they were liberated?
    Saame as in SA and Rhodesia [kill the whites]
    I say you are a liar. You lied here months ago when
    I pointed out the reds had killed 100 million or so but you couldnt take the truth so had to lie…
    check the threads to see it for yourself.
    BYE!

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  526. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 11:56 am #

    Abo Slum, cute! Intentional misspelling?

  527. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:02 pm #

    Yes people often blame others.
    In the case of Haiti, USA has taken in like 25 to 40% of their unwashed masses [I say that because a friend in Miami says the Haitians there smell].
    Plus whites have put trillions? billions into aid
    but the population keeps growing.
    [Did ya read that Wage says I use incorrect grammar,
    insult here and am living in a fantasy?].

  528. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:04 pm #

    Yes, up till recently the only country that brought the black [slaves or otherwise] in was the USA.
    Europeans kept their slaves in ‘Colonies’.
    Africa and the Islands.
    Now the US is stuck with all these Haitians.

  529. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:06 pm #

    White Man’s Burden..explain the cliche please.
    SBPDL has alot of info.

  530. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:07 pm #

    Public Radio points a finger at Clinton I believe in the ‘betrayal of Haiti’ in the 1990s.

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  531. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:10 pm #

    ‘I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, antisoak.’
    I sense more than a ‘bit’ of mockery in that line.
    Say whatever you want here, makes no difference to me…dont think well be meeting!
    CHEERS AND A HAPPY NEW YEARS!!!

  532. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:14 pm #

    ‘Then you express exasperation with me.’
    Who would not ‘express exasperation’ to you?

  533. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:16 pm #

    You can dish it out, but you can’t take it?
    I can take it, bring it on.
    Just stop lying.

  534. metuselah December 30, 2011 at 12:20 pm #

    White. But not for long. My children will not be white. Anything but racist megalomaniac genocidal bloodthirsty white.

  535. progress2conserve December 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm #

    “So Hancock says pretty much the same thing as I did, and you praise him and offer to man the barricades with him*.
    Then you express exasperation with me.”
    -wage-
    Wage, I’ve started to use a person’s thoughts on incoming immigration into the United States – as a proxy for whether they have any grounding at all in common sense.
    So yeah, wage, I’m exasperated that a smart politically active woman, such as yourself, says that the Greens of California should just keep on, keeping on, attracting the immigrant vote – living in the here and now – with no thought to the future.
    My opinion is that you are letting your own political alliances, or your own Political Correctness (which I rarely detect in you, btw) disable your common sense – at a critical time in History.
    ===================
    *manning the barricades – Yeah, I also once offered to transcend space and time and man the barricades with Vlad, should his most dire predictions prove correct.
    I withdrew that offer when Vlad demonstrated that he is so doctrinaire on some things – abortion being on the short list – that he and I would likely club each other with our rifle butts during a lull in the firing.
    Don’t know yet if Hancock and I would disagree in such a violent way over some such doctrine, but I don’t think we would. And we could always stay on the “safe subject” of the 2nd American Revolution – the one the South lost. hehehe

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  536. Hancock1863 December 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm #

    First off, John Taylor Gatto is excellent. I read his seminal article “Confederacy of Dunces” almost 30 years ago, and I still might have a dogeared pre-Internet xeroxed copy laying around somewhere.
    What can I say but that I feel that you are partially correct, but that given our current condition it doesn’t matter.
    For myself, I only say the time has long past for relativistic statements and careful relative words. The whole relativism thing within Liberal philosophy, that I largely otherwise embrace, sometimes makes me shudder.
    How the hell did Corporate Media slip this poison pill into our National Dialogue, infantilizing it beyond redemption?
    I’ll tell you how, with a ton of money and favorable legislation, and by breaking any honest journalist who dared disrupt the Corporate Lies, from Robert Parry to Gary Webb and everyone in between.
    In either case, while some of relativism is partly true and wise, sometimes a thing is JUST PLAIN WRONG, and to accept relativism at high levels is to invite the kind of intellectual destruction that the Aristos are visiting upon us now.
    Call it the Left’s little contribution to the growth of RW Corporate Socialism. As Wage points out, the Aristocracy is more than willing to promulgate the ideas of the Left, so long as it advances their goals of domination and control of the Peasantry in the long run.
    21st-Century America is dying from this whole, “Some people say the world is round, but others think it’s flat” thing that turns everything into a he-said/she-said.
    Add to this the steep decline in critical thinking skills in the average American and you have a recipe for the inheritor of RW National Socialism, which is RW Corporate Socialism, to become unstoppable.
    In both cases, the destruction of the idea of truth and objective facts was seminal to the victory of these evil philosophies.
    So I say that you and Gatto have a point, but I cannot go as far as you. Even if it’s technically true, I am no longer interested in measuring my words over it because it’s too late for that.
    But for you, messianicdruid, I’ll try:
    You spoke of people trying to reconstuct their worldviews as the Big Lie whacks them in the face.
    What if they have been systematically denied the ability to form the critical thinking tools required to form a COHERENT, CONSISENT (key words to the concept) replacement worldview?
    Well then, they just have to wait for someone to refill them up with a new worldview, and naturally it matters not if it’s coherent and consistent because they don’t have the skills to tell the diffference.
    That’s how the Hitler and the Nazis rose last time. It’s likely that’s how and why Corn-Pone Hitler or some equivalent malevolence will rise again and why the Corpzis have created all the precursors for such an event.
    For want of a better word, that’s “dumb”. I could relativize(?) further and say that while you and Gatto are partially correct, this is a measurable and costly form of dumbness that overwhelms all the others, under certain conditions like those that exist today.
    Which is more important, to be able to cipher properly or to be possess the critical thinking skills necessary to see the coming of totalitarian evil with enough foresight to raise opposition while there is still time?
    In many times and places, the former is more important. Not here and not now, though.
    Not that it matters, because in 21st Century America, most of the subjects can do neither on their own.

  537. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 12:30 pm #

    An impressive feat that took years.
    How did you know?
    Were you in bed with him?
    Sistine Chapel ceiling – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sistine_Chapel_ceiling
    The Sistine Chapel ceiling, painted by Michelangelo between 1508 and 1512

  538. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 12:31 pm #

    Abortion has always been viewed with abhorence – the original Hippocratic Oath specificaly forbade it. The Church held to this – always. They’re weakening since Vatican 2 and the massive infiltration of Communists into the Priesthood.
    You’re obviously lying about your Granny being a Born Again Christian/Nazi who had 13/14 abortions.
    Where did I ever deny watching Fox News? I’ve always said I disagree with their ultimate position though. Why do I watch? Guess I’m caught in reaction like millions of others: utterly sickened by the bland, PC lies of the MSM. At least FOX has some personality and makes some good points. But their good us used to support their evil alas.

  539. dale December 30, 2011 at 12:38 pm #

    BTW, the latest Iranian comments about the strait of Hormuz is likely not a provocation, but a response to provocations by the US, which, as I mentioned earlier this week is ramping up naval presence in the area. Now three carriers there, or on their way.
    Most likely the US is trying to provoke the Iranians into taking action, in order to have a convenient excuse to bomb. Probably not going to work, hence — combined military action by U.S. and Israel within a month very likely. Not good to keep forces on combat alert too long.
    Another blind and stupid effort by the bloated U.S. military, dragging the country into another war it can’t benefit from, and futher exacerbating the financial, social and policy woes of this country. Obama nothing but a tool.

  540. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 12:42 pm #

    I agree with you. Your position is exactly that of John Birth: Communism is a creation of the Bankers for the purpose of destroying Aristocracy. Communism 2.0 is to help destroy the middle class and traditional Capitalism – with lots of direct help from the Federal Goverment(s). Look at how both the bottom (Commies) and the top (state goverment) is going after Scott Walker of Wisconin – all for the sin of being for the taxpayers and small business. It’s the “vise” as Gary Allen described it in his “None Dare Call it Conspiracy”. Poor Wage!

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  541. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 12:44 pm #

    Wage, I am not exasperated with you, but I am exasperated with Ron Paul, who would take the country back to pre-Civil Rights Act days. I am in agreement with Paul on his anti-military and anti-war positions, but his domestic policies, his homophobia, and his racism would spell disaster for millions of marginalized Americans.

  542. dale December 30, 2011 at 12:48 pm #

    Don’t be too suprised if the Iranians got hold of some of China’s highly accurate anti-carrier missles, which seem to turn carriers into large bullseyes. They ARE crazy enough to use them, if they have them.
    Then what? we start blaming the Chinese as well and who knows what? Meanwhile, the Iranians, who live for revenge, will start lighting up public places in this country in a big way. I have little doubt they have sleepers in this country for exactly such an eventuality.

  543. AMR December 30, 2011 at 12:52 pm #

    Pretty bleak assessment.
    Obsession with vulgar money sinks like Disneyland easily diffuses upmarket, too. I probably shouldn’t complain, since I was a summer employee at Hersheypark for four seasons and enjoyed the job on the whole, especially the unlimited free admission that employees had when off duty. Of course, Hersheypark squeezed the financial hell out of its customers–excuse me, guests, making them look like suckers. I hate to think of the debt that they took on in order to pay for things like $10-a-head fast food lunches and $4.43 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. We made some jaws drop with our food service prices.
    I mention that Disney diffuses upmarket because an old friend/sometime date of mine and her boyfriend are leaving today for a Disney cruise from Long Beach to Baja. This trip is just the latest in a series of semiannual to bimonthly lovers’ getaways that these two have made to Florida, the Bahamas, Arizona, etc., in addition to lover boy’s nearly weekly trips from Philadelphia to North Carolina, where my friend is an undergraduate. I gave these two a fuller treatment in one of my longer screeds in August or September; dude was the one who stole $18k from their employer by feigning a wrist injury for a fraudulent disability claim, and he’s the one who bankrolled most, if not all, of their travels. There was some speculation about her father bankrolling some of it; he’s a successful, wealthy attorney, but I haven’t confirmed that she spent any of her own money or dad’s money on these trips.
    When I was living in Pennsylvania, I routinely amazed friends, no matter their socioeconomic background, when I told them that I had never been to Florida. Everyone in PA who isn’t dirt poor has been to one or more of the crass tourist traps down there, and more than a few of the severely cash-strapped have made it, too. I’ve rarely heard of acquaintances going there for the history, the natural wonder (and damn swamp bugs) of the Everglades, or the Art Deco architecture of Miami Beach. In 1998 I had a layover at the Miami Airport en route to Oslo (my parents had gotten us free tickets from American), and to this day that is the extent of my Florida experience. And I’ve been on the ground in every other state except North Dakota.
    Yup, the vulgarians are on the loose.

  544. Buck Stud December 30, 2011 at 12:54 pm #

    ” The Sistine Chapel ceiling, painted by Michelangelo between 1508 and 1512″
    LOL – you don’t even realize when you make my point!
    Vlad stated that it took 20 years. Does that add up to twenty years, genius?

  545. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 12:54 pm #

    So you blame all Whites because a White Judge did something stupid?
    No one blames all Blacks – but alot of them are bad and most of the rest support them. The good ones are thus badly outnumbered and say nothing. When Blacks are burning down their neighborhoods, sometimes some older woman will protest. She’ll get punched right in the face. It’s on video.
    To be fair, sometimes when a White is getting stomped a Black will put themselves on the line and defend them. They risk hatred and injury. Whcn I got sucker punched a Black girl brought me a tissue for the blood on my face.
    Detroit emptied after a particularly vicious incident was not reprimanded by the courts. Also the Whites were being handicapped in their ability to defend themselves. In years previously, they had gone out with shovels and bats and beaten the Blacks back. Untie our hands, and we will deal with it. Blacks think we are afraid of them, but it’s jail and losing our jobs that we fear. When everything falls the Blacks will learn the truth.

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  546. progress2conserve December 30, 2011 at 12:54 pm #

    “But it will most assuredly, for all but our Aristocratic Godly Overlords, be horrifyingly worse than all of what is going on today that we bemoan.”
    -hancock-
    OK, Hancock – Let me take issue with you over something, if only to make my womanfrien’ WageLaborer happy.(Hi wage! ;0) no long-term hard feelings, I hope?)
    You, HC, seem to imply that our Aristocratic overlords actually know what they are doing, and that they will survive collapse with supplies of antibiotics and painkillers enough to last them and their progeny into the far future.
    I disagree. I think the RWA’s are as focused on the here and now as most of the rest of us. And most of them are as dumb as a box of turnips. In fact, I’d venture to say that Ozone, for example, is more prepared with what he’s got – than is the richest Authoritarian (George Soros? Dick Cheney? Vladimir Putin?)
    And, anyway – you’re a biologist HC. You know how short the shelf life is on antibiotics and painkillers. And you should know how impossible it would be to create them, even for the richest RWA – without modern industry and pharmaceutical feedstocks.
    ===============================
    Anyway, HC, if I’m understanding you correctly – some tendency to Authoritarianism has to be in every ONE of our gene pools. How else do we explain how it always bubbles up.
    From the first tribal chief, eons ago, to Lloyd Bankfein – there’s this human tendency to want to steal more and more from those who have less and less. American Free-Market-Style Corporatism emphasizes a slightly different skillset than that required to be a Somali Warlord – but, only slightly.
    And the psychopathy is similar in both cases.
    Therefore, it must be innate. Right?

  547. dale December 30, 2011 at 12:55 pm #

    I figure one dirty bomb in this country somewhere, and we’ll be well on our way to the kind of government idiots like Vlad want.
    Humans…..to stupid to learn.

  548. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 12:56 pm #

    I will repeat what I said the last time there was talk of attacking Iran: the USA would lose the war, because Iran has weapons we do not know about and cannot defend against.
    Iran is not a small weak country like Iraq. The USA will woe the day it starts a war with Iran.
    Iran has been threatened repeatedly but has wisely chosen to be aggressive, not to invade its neighbors. But “make no mistake” Iran can an will defend itself and Iran can and will make USA soil a theater of nuclear war if attacked.

  549. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 12:58 pm #

    Your children my ass. If you talk in person like you talk here on line any chick who’s not desperately delusional and not in dire need of psychiatric help will run like hell. So the odds of your propagating while not zero are vanishingly small.

  550. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 1:01 pm #

    I’m sorry that I was wrong. There I said it – if only others could be as humble as I! Of course my point is still correct about a madman destroying minutes what took years. I musn’t be too humble to admit I was correct in the main.

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  551. dale December 30, 2011 at 1:02 pm #

    BTW, get ready for skyrocking oil and gold prices.

  552. Hancock1863 December 30, 2011 at 1:03 pm #

    You said:

    Who will grow their food, sew their clothes, mine the coal for their electricity?
    What is the point of saving 4,000 spoiled rich people?
    Won’t they be surprised when the food runs out, and no one fetches them more?

    You don’t think they’ll use their stolen resources to “rescue” their compliant servants and Mercenary Bully Boys along with them? (so long as these Inferiors know their place, of course, and brutal immediate reprisals for any that get any funny post-1776 ideas)
    One can look to the social organizations of the past to see the social organiztaions of the future. All Richie Rich has to do is navigate a relatively straight-line backwards, as our Aristocracy is doing now, and there they are, as if the moderate peasant advances of 1776-1980 never happened.
    They can always hire one-half of the poor to kill the other half, and they always will.
    I’d like to believe as you do, that they will sow the seeds of their own destruction, but it’s too much of a stretch for me to buy it.
    If and when the human race dwindles to a population of 1000, one thing is almost crtain. The composition of that final society will be roughly:
    One or Two families, ruled by the most ruthless and manipulative socipathic assholes, who will get almost everything that’s left – food, water, etc.
    20 to 50 Bullyboys and their familes, who may be physically tougher than their overlords, but lack the mental sophistication to out-sociopath/Machiavelli them, so they will happily take the table scraps from the First Families, and be joyous at their raised position.
    920+ Peasants & Slaves who’s lives are disposable, full of endless toil, forfeit at the whim of the First Families, and often, the Bullyboys (unless said peasants are for some reason briefly of value to the Overlords in some other sense than mule/dog physical labor)
    I say again, virtually every society has been structured like this since the dawn of history and probably before, no matter what softenings and oil-fueled hypercomplexities are overlaid them.
    I know you don’t like to hear this, but that includes Communist countries, too. Just a different bunch of First Families chosen by slightly different criteria and using a slightly different justification for their depredations, in my opinion.
    No wonder the Capitalists hated them. Even though it was just one bunch of murdering thugs getting knocked off by another, who wants to lose that kind of cushy position? Just another intramural squabble between sociopaths, except that instead of highborn vs. highborn, it’s higborn sociopaths vs. lowborn sociopaths.
    progress. hooray.
    Plus, without the massive amounts of cheap oil creating unreal torrents of technology, goods and “energy slaves” to replace the human ones, none of the “PR softenings” would never have happened and the USA in this alternate universe would be as monstrous as ancient Rome or worse, a slave nation without doubt.
    It’s important to remember that this is not just the age of Peak Oil, it’s the age of Peak Liberty, too.
    Like it or not, Wage, this is almost certainly the best time to be alive and a Peasant.
    Go 100 years in either direction, and the horror of being as powerless peasant will increase in orders of magntiude the further back or forward you go. And I am pretty sure thing are now so far gone that there is no other option, save some technological cornucopian miracle that keeps the energy slaves at our beck and call.
    Because SOMEONE needs to get Richie Rich from Point A to Point B in the manner to which he is accustomed, and it sure ain’t gonna be his pampered indolent monsters.

  553. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 1:05 pm #

    Correction
    Iran has been threatened repeatedly but has wisely chosen NOT to be aggressive, not to invade its neighbors.

  554. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 1:12 pm #

    From the famous poem by Rudyard Kipling to the effect that Whites had the duty to uplift non Whites. Basically the rationale of the British Empire – many took it very seriously and the Imperialists and Corporations got alot of traction out of it. Of course now all that is seen as racist. Yet Whites continue to do alot of charity work even as they consider themselves LESS than the people they are helping. At least Christians are a bit more logical and don’t see it that way. But they have been warped too and many of them think it’s wrong to convert the natives now. Pure goodness? Perhaps or perhaps the White Man’s Guilt instead of the White Man’s Burden.
    Anyway, it’s a good poem. I don’t agree with it since the Non Whites have spat in our face and think they’re better than we are even as they hold out their hands. To be fair though – we were exploiting them and using Christianity and the “White Man’s Burden” ethic as a cover. Pure Christianity wouldn’t involve armies and administrators with armed police. Pure Christianity doesn’t exist very often anymore.
    http://www.online-literature.com/kipling/922/

  555. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 1:13 pm #

    LOL!
    Of course the white man did not ethically build up anything. The white man murdered, stole lands, and enslaved people, people who did the building for them. We done built it. It is our choice to continue building or to destroy what we built. I vote to not murder, not steal, not enslave, not destroy.

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  556. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 1:19 pm #

    So now the ethically-challenged whites are destroying themselves???
    Perfect karma!

  557. progress2conserve December 30, 2011 at 1:25 pm #

    “But “make no mistake” Iran can an will defend itself and Iran can and will make USA soil a theater of nuclear war if attacked.”
    -asoka.-
    Ah, a.., we return to a familiar theme of yours, and your warm and fuzzy feelings at the prospect of nuclear attack against the US – have been seen in the past, on CFN.
    You seem to have insider knowledge.
    So are we talking “sleeper cells,” with nukes at the ready, now?
    Or, we talking a loong range Iranian missile?
    And, a.., do you really think a nuclear “first strike” against the US would end well for the Iranian powers that ordered it?
    That seems unlikely.

  558. 8man December 30, 2011 at 1:36 pm #

    From:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=177766
    I saw the North Koreans crying on TV once again, they have been crying for over a week now. That is so damn cool! They are desperate because their great leader Kim Sung Il or whatever the hell he called himself died, they are desperate, crying like cry babies, really cool, how I love those extreme communist dictatorships (so spectacular too!, a really cool show!) where the “individual” is no longer allowed to exist, all exist as one monolithic block of intentionality, as a tool for the one and all powerful dictator.
    I want that! like an hysterical cry baby, I WANT THAT! like a spoiled brat, I WANT THAT! I want billions of people at my command, like I push a button and they build skyscrapers and they execute, build trillions of 1966 oldsmobile ninety eights and they execute, so cool, Only I decide, I love to hate and inflict pain, but the hate and pain is only such if the billions of tools (slaves) oppose their puny will power (and why does a chunk of matter want to inflict pain on another chunk of matter, the indirection, the imagination, the denotation ?): but kill all other will powers, no different “life styles” here, no queers or fagots or lesbos or alternative “individuals” here, only tools, gears for my machine, so cool!
    The Observer is not only the Universe 100 %, the Observer is 100 % Subjectivity, no absolutes here, only a pure monolithic slab of subjectivity expressing itself (as if “itself” had any possible value and wasn’t just a puny useless insignificant turd): Only subjectivity exists, not even the Observer or the Universe, pure subjectivity which means pure nothing, pure total insignificance, pure puny action reaction according to what that atoms decide, and its decision is totally insignificant. So modified brains are the Observer, which is the Universe with completely new laws of physics, but also 100 % Subjectivity, pure quirk action reaction, pure impulse as a response against another input, pure quirky, flukey will power expressing itself and using trillions of people as a monolithic slab of intentionality to use at my command…

  559. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm #

    Dale,
    Will $ be worth anything?
    You cant eat oil, gold, greenbacks.
    At least oil can be used to heat or power a tractor.
    Did you click Vlads link to 60,000? deaths each winter in UK?
    Or were you too busy maligning him?

  560. Widespreadpanic7 December 30, 2011 at 1:38 pm #

    Asoka, shilling for Iran from your hammock in the unnamed Banana Republic? Why do I get the impression if it was 1920 you’d be backing Lenin, 1930 Stalin, 1940 Hitler, 1950 Mao, and 1967 Ho Chi Ming? Whoever the threat to the US is, that’s who you’re for.
    Hey Vlad, last night, due to the way the schedule turned out, I was the only white guy in the pressroom. Still we somehow managed to set-up, print 140,000 copies of the newspaper, breakdown and clean up. These are pretty good jobs but whites just don’t apply, or when they get hired last only a few days. These guys, my co-workers, treat me pretty good. Oh, a few have attitudes. For the most part, tho, I have a lot of fun working with them. There’s alot of laughs and bunstin’ b-lls all night.
    Happy New Year CFNers!!
    —WSP7

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  561. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 1:40 pm #

    Dale,
    Before you call others stupid at least spell proof!
    sheesh…….
    And I figure if/when a Bomb goes off its ‘chaos’.

  562. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 1:43 pm #

    I posted that to tease you you uptight queen.

  563. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 1:45 pm #

    Asians and Whites invented much, blacks almost
    nothing…face the facts.

  564. Hancock1863 December 30, 2011 at 1:47 pm #

    I enjoy your posts immensely. For a relatively young guy (at least I think you are, from your posts), you are very wise.
    Unfortunately, this happens to be a time in history when ignorance is lauded and celebrated, and geniuine thoughtful wisdom is the realm of hippies, suckers, and Enemies of the State. In 21st Century America if “knowledge” doesn’t lead to $$$ or entertainment, it’s not worth having.
    Plus, having been born and raised in that neck o’ the woods, I can 100% vouch for your excellent assements of Philly, the suburbs and their subculture.
    I also thoroughly enjoy reading them, in spite of the fact that I was and am aware of most of it, occasionally you make a connection or conclusion that I didn’t consider.
    I enjoy your anecdotes and so here’s one you will undoubtedly appreciate, being so “Philly-centric”.
    As a young man, I worked at a local restaurant in the NE. We’d all eat meals at the “employees table”, sometimes joined by our two local beat cops who’d get meals and drinks “on the arm” (for free, if you don’t recognize that archaic saying).
    FULL DISCLOSURE: From what I could tell, the proprietor was happy to do this in exchange for the cops making extra stops there, though how would I know if that was just a facade?
    Anyway, one day I am eating lunch and it’s just me and those beat cops at the table. I am just sitting there eating, not saying anything nor really taking much note of their conversation, until I unwillingly heard this exchange.
    Cop A: “There’s a rape victim on Longshore Street. You wanna go over and take a look at her?”
    Cop B: “Naah.”
    I didn’t take note of the rest of their conversation because my head was swimming between shock and anger. Not that I said anything to them. Philly Cops are notorious and with good reason, as I am sure you know. Antagonizing them or even trying to show them a metaphorical mirror is as dumb as poking uncaged tigers with a stick, as I am sure you know. (probably the same with most cops, but Philly’s got that extra-special, well-deserved rep)
    Plus, I was still a teenager and it takes a lot more balls than I had at that time to lecture not just adults, but adult COPS.
    It was perhaps my most poignant epiphany regarding LE, at least until years later, I witnessed a state cop tell a blatant 100% lie on the stand under oath.
    As I walked out of the courthouse, I couldn’t help but think, “Holy crap, if a cop tells such a blatant lie under oath about a stupid traffic ticket about a middle-class white guy, what lies must they tell for lower-class people of color when they feel even more justified in closing horrific crimes?”
    And, sadly, my next thought was, “Is it possible that OJ actually wasn’t guilty?”
    Which he almost certainly was and is, but wow, talk about a couple revelations about how life actully works!

  565. Widespreadpanic7 December 30, 2011 at 1:49 pm #

    Wagelaborer, Hancock, P2C etal., I know you think we are as dumb as a box of rocks, unduly influenced by Fox TV, and have evil intentions, but CFN needs some people around like JulliettaofOhio and myself, conservatives, to balance to leftish tilt of this site. It is harmless.
    –WSP7

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  566. messianicdruid December 30, 2011 at 1:50 pm #

    “Who will grow their food, sew their clothes, mine the coal for their electricity?”
    Ask old69, or one of those guys. They say we don’t need anybody to do that stuff anymore.

  567. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 1:51 pm #

    That’s a cheap shot Dale. The upper class hates White Nationalists – no one does it prosecute more heavily. Look at how they treated Edgar Steele with no real evidence – just alot of doctored tapes. I expect better from you – just kidding, I don’t.

  568. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 1:53 pm #

    I love your innocence, Procon!
    Still feeling protected by mutually assured destruction, are you?
    You think people doing battle with the Great Satan give a shit about our nuclear capacity? That is why the battle will be on USA soil where our nukes are useless. Besides they got a whole mess of virgins waiting. You cannot scare them with death. They embrace it. Best leave them alone, or better, make friends and work together; the Iranians are beautiful people who have contributed much to civilization. But they will defend themselves against ignorant barbarians.

  569. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 2:03 pm #

    So Iran has weapons we don’t know about? But you do? So tell us, we’re eager to know how you know.
    As I’m sure there are many agencies of the US govt who are JUST as eager.
    So you say Iran will make the US a theatre of nuclear war? You sound pretty certain. So you KNOW that they have nuclear weapons?
    I’m sure the US govt would be interested in talking to you. Better to go to them right fucking now Asoka and not make them come to you. Because if they suspect you have such knowledge then what do you think they’ll do to you? Do you think they’ll ask you nicely?
    So Mr Iran Sympathiser that can’t keep his big mouth shut. Let’s say you do have knowledge and it gets to the Iranians that you’re out here flapping your gums. What do you think the Iranians will do to you? Do you think they’ll be nice to you?

  570. metuselah December 30, 2011 at 2:05 pm #

    Actually, Rhino, my views are becoming more and more accepted as correct by more and more of the general population of the world. Soon, my views will become the vast consensus. You will not be able to escape your legacy of racism.

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  571. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 2:06 pm #

    You have what we gave you – nothing more. The Asians benefited from out occupation, learned from us, etc. Africans did not – too primitive. Many got Christianity though and are grateful. As one Black said to the Anglicans – you gave us the Bible and now you no longer believe. Why?
    I worked some Nigerians named Bede and Cedric who loved their missionaries. Another one told me how much American Blacks hated him since he didn’t hate Whites. The whole thing is a very complicated story. I could talk about it at length but why bother here? Everyone is like a lesser version of you: Whites bad, Blacks good.
    Europe and North America may yet be evangelized by Black, Asian, and Latin missionaries. That should make you happy a little bit anyway. Apparently the 2nd man in line for Pope is the a Black named Arinze I think. Many prophecies predict the rise of a Black Pope as a sign (not a cause – he’s a good man) that disaster is near.
    Oh one other point: I once went to hear a Yanomami Shaman who have converted to Chritianity speak. He was furious at the Anthropologists like what’s his name, the French guy who became famous studying “The Fierce People”. The Frenchie has said that Missionaries should leave the natives alone and let them be what they are. The Shaman said No that what they had been wasn’t good and that their Religion was about the worship of demons. He didn’t like being treated like fauna and felt his People had a right to the Gospel just like everyone else.
    Many Missionaries have gone in ahead of everyone and put themselves at terrible risk. This is true Christianity – not for the weak or timid. And many of them died in torment like Father Issac Jogues who converted the Iroquois and died in the process.

  572. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 2:08 pm #

    MY legacy of racism? So, reading between the lines here, you think I’m white? How the fuck do you know what race I am?

  573. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 2:08 pm #

    Good news!
    Political shenanigans in Ohio’s state capitol had suddenly moved the filing deadline for the Green Party to get on the primary ballot from March to December 30th, today.
    As of today, here is the news from Ohio:
    The Green Party will be on the general election ballot in November, 2012, and Jill Stein will be on that ballot assuming she wins the national Green Party’s nomination.

  574. messianicdruid December 30, 2011 at 2:08 pm #

    “…because they don’t have the skills to tell the difference.”
    I accept that there are some who lack. What I do not accept is the idea that most or many cannot recover from their blindness.
    The people that are paid to believe certain things will [almost] certainly repent {change their mind} when the currency is devalued, ie: half their motivation evaporates.

  575. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 2:12 pm #

    Have you heard of Guantanamo? I dare not say more.
    But you should be very afraid. 9s and 44s will not protect you.

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  576. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 2:14 pm #

    Some Blacks settle down after 35 (as the testosterone begins to lower) or so and take a look at the ruins of their lives. Some are able to become decent working men.
    I called my Father a racist and he said “No, I like them, they’re funny”. He had a good attitude I know now. He knew he was better than them but he accepted them as they were most of the time. Of course he got very angry when they run amok.
    Surely you don’t believe that they are equal or that could maintain any of this without us? Or create it? It is to laugh.

  577. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 2:14 pm #

    the Iranians are beautiful people – Asoka
    How the fuck do YOU know?
    But they will defend themselves against ignorant barbarians. – Asoka
    And who are the ignorant barbarians you’re refering to Asoka? Asoka are YOU another one of the piece of shit racists fouling the body politic? Don’t take offence Asoka, I’m not accusing you, it’s just an innocent question. I’m sure I’ve misunderstood.

  578. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 2:19 pm #

    What do you think the Iranians will do to you? Do you think they’ll be nice to you?
    —————-
    Yes, if they ever get to South America I will open my doors and invite them in for tea.
    So, Mr. Iran-antagonizer, why do you think I got the hell out of ground zero USA? Idiot.

  579. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 2:19 pm #

    You’re the one with the mouth that won’t stop.
    You’re the one with all the talk about Iranian weapons that nobody knows about (except you and the Iraninas apparently).
    YOU should be afraid.
    Or maybe, plainly and simply, you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about and you’re totally full of shit.

  580. messianicdruid December 30, 2011 at 2:21 pm #

    “I am not exasperated with you, but I am exasperated with Ron Paul, who would take the country back to pre-Civil Rights Act days.”
    You mean back when a man could work 40 hours a week and his wife could be a homemaker and they could do well, while raising six children on his wages? Back before we were in perpetual war? Back when the goobermint felt constrained by their work-order? Back before we had Oprah on the toob to tell us how to wipe our arse?

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  581. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 2:24 pm #

    Take my advice. Shut the fuck up.

  582. metuselah December 30, 2011 at 2:27 pm #

    How do I know? I made an assumption. If you’re not a blue-eyed white devil dog, I’ve yet to see you deny it.

  583. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 2:28 pm #

    That’s pretty much what he means.

  584. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 2:28 pm #

    Back to the days of “Nigger don’t let the sun set on you”
    Back to the days of “whites only”
    Back to the days of strange fruit hanging in trees.
    Back to the days of white Jim Crow terrorists

  585. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 2:32 pm #

    My race is none of your damn business, white, black or otherwise.

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  586. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 2:33 pm #

    For Guantanamo’s sake!
    Your murders, your kidnappings, your torture, will not go unpunished. Barbarians.

  587. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 2:35 pm #

    You didn’t answer my question: are YOU one of the piece of shit racists fouling the body politic? It’s not an accusation. It’s just a question Asoka. If you don’t want to answer then just say so.

  588. metuselah December 30, 2011 at 2:35 pm #

    There we go. As I said, I’ve yet see you deny it. And you haven’t!

  589. dale December 30, 2011 at 2:36 pm #

    Will $ be worth anything?
    You cant eat oil, gold, greenbacks.
    At least oil can be used to heat or power a tractor.
    Did you click Vlads link to 60,000? deaths each winter in UK?
    Or were you too busy maligning him?
    ——————————
    I personally don’t give a shit if anyone uses perfect english or not in their informal blog comments. I work as a writer for money, and enjoy not having to be so careful in such a setting.
    However, I would assume even you do not want to be a hypocrite, hence if you are going to criticize anothers usage, perhaps you should correct the no less than four errors in your above short post,…. prior to passing yourself off as the english instructor around here.

  590. dale December 30, 2011 at 2:38 pm #

    That’s a cheap shot Dale. The upper class hates White Nationalists – no one does it prosecute more heavily. Look at how they treated Edgar Steele with no real evidence – just alot of doctored tapes. I expect better from you – just kidding, I don’t.
    ———————————–
    I have no idea what you are talking about, and furthermore, I don’t care.

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  591. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 2:40 pm #

    MY murders, MY kidnappings? MY torture?
    How the fuck do YOU know where I’m from? Let me submit to you that you do not know shit.
    Just because I write in English? Didn’t you know that China is by some measures the biggest English speaking country in the world? Haven’t you heard of the commonwealth countries? Haven’t you heard of bilingual education? Do you think the US is the only place where dey spikka de engrish?

  592. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 2:41 pm #

    Why the fuck should I tell you?

  593. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 2:44 pm #

    I am not.

  594. Hancock1863 December 30, 2011 at 2:46 pm #

    Good, thought-provoking comment.
    It’s human nature to “kick the can” down the road, and sometimes fill in the blanks with self-reinforcing fantasy when facts are scarce (even fake facts – LOL).
    Plus, I seriously doubt technology is going to vanish overnight nor the oil run out in similar fashion.
    If that is the case, we are talking a matter of degrees. Besides, I also think that our Aristo think very about what happens after they are dead, aside from who gets the $$$$. They probably figure that for their progeny as for them, wealth and power finds a way. They also might be right. You don’t need specific plans when you have wealth and power, not nearly as much as those without them require careful planning.
    From this angle, preserving some textbooks, glassware, and a minor energy source might get them something that’s better than nothing. It won’t be our pretty, standardized, quality controlled pills, but it may do the job nonetheless.
    When a barber/surgeon is sawing through a gangrenous leg, I am guessing the “partial fix” will be much appreciated by Future Fauntleroys.
    Given my relatively limited knowledge of chemistry, I don’t want to say much more about something I don’t know a lot about. Imagine that!
    But you get my overall jist. Wealth and power finds a way. Which, if I recall correctly, is a paraphrase of Machiavelli.
    As to my beliefs on sociopathy and authoritarianism, you are very close to what I believe.
    You said:

    From the first tribal chief, eons ago, to Lloyd Bankfein – there’s this human tendency to want to steal more and more from those who have less and less. American Free-Market-Style Corporatism emphasizes a slightly different skillset than that required to be a Somali Warlord – but, only slightly.

    Definite agreement with you there. Consider that statement against the backdrop that psychological and economic power has supplanted physical brutality as the primary means of control, at least until the technology fails significantly enough and the similarity between the two shrinks even further.
    The innate-ness of it in populations almost certain comes from our evolutionary rise, when these things and others (like the “overpopulation” male sex drive) were POSITIVE ADAPTIONS for our early survival and so selected for.
    It may even be that the leader-needing, obedient nature exhibited by most people (myself included sometimes) is also an evolutionary adaption from those days, when convening a discussion council sure was no help in escaping the sabre-toothed tiger, and a group comprised of all Alpha-chiefs might have extincted themselves even before the tigers got ’round to it.
    Unfortunately, as our species progressed, these positive adaptions became maladaptions for a technical society (if it is to survive long-term).
    Overpopulation drive, drives for domination and control, greed, hoarding, and all the rest might have been great for 10,000 BC to ensure species survival but now they are walking us straight into a keyhole or extinction, in my opinion.
    Evolution selected for these traits and, I suspect, our future survival always depended on us at least partially restraining these evolutionary instincts with reason.
    Hell, even the Aristocrats seems to partially buy that by the time of the Enlightenment…until Siggy Freud and Ed Bernays taught ’em the error of their ways, and sadly showed them scientifically to the tenth decimal place that all human beings are infantile, easily manipulated, creatures of emotion and not reason.
    Then they showed them how to use manipulations to vastly increase their domination and control without the need for chains, hangings and beatings, which eat into profit.
    They lapped it up because it was what they thought of we peasants BEFORE all that Enlightenment stuff.
    The ability to assign differing degrees of importance to people based on their relationship to ourselves is also likely an evolutionary trait which ill-serves us today as much as it well-served us in 10,000 BC.
    It’s common sense, if one cannot distance one’s self from all the cruelty and injustice in the human race, one would drown in sadness and anger.
    Plus, walking around depresseed all the time might help one not to notice as said sabre-toothed tiger was a-stalkin’ you. A maladaption.
    But once society passes a certain point, things seem to flip around. Positive adaptions become negative adaptions and sometimes, vice-versa.
    It’s important to remember that humanity once went through a keyhole event in which scientists speculate the human population dropped to 10,000 or so.
    Ultimately it means that everyone on Earth today springs from a very narrow gene pool. An environmental/evolutionary happenstance that determined in one way or another that eventually fate of our species by narrowing our overall gene pool and probably selecting for the kind of societal composition I laid out above, that is still with us today.
    I speculate that the only way to avoid eventual extinction would have been if we had used our reason and empathy to overcome or at least significantly mitigate the postive adaptions that have now lately become maladaptions due to changing “environment”, population, and technological level.
    Maladaptions not the least of which is our desire to fill the world with an endless sea of human flesh, no matter what color.
    Talk about your epic fails on all fronts!

  595. messianicdruid December 30, 2011 at 2:48 pm #

    So, you are really only talking about the racial aspect, again. What makes you think one man could {or would} repeal the Civil Rights Act? Before you answer, consider Capeheart.
    http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/12/race-baiting-and-ron-paul-actions-speak.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MishsGlobalEconomicTrendAnalysis+%28Mish%27s+Global+Economic+Trend+Analysis%29

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  596. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 2:49 pm #

    You still haven’t told us how exactly YOU know about Iranian nukes and secret weapons.
    We’re trembling in anticipation.
    So are about ten agencies of the US govt.
    Do tell.
    On the other hand if you want to admit that you’re full of shit then that’s fine too.

  597. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 2:50 pm #

    Submit all you want. I’m not going to tell you to shut the fuck up because that is against CFN rules and antisoak has said we cannot tell anyone to shut up. I play by the rules and let karma take care of the rest.

  598. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 2:53 pm #

    Because you told me to shut the f$ck up. Are schizophrenic and stupid?

  599. metuselah December 30, 2011 at 2:59 pm #

    Again, I’ve yet see you deny it.

  600. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 3:00 pm #

    Oh I’m sorry…I see I’ve hurt your feelings. And we all know you follow orders. Rhino says shut up so Asoka shuts up.
    Besides I was only thinking of you. All your silly-assed gum flapping was making you look like a total jack off.
    But let’s assume you do have this mysterious inside knowledge: like I said, there’s a whole bunch of real hard guys in the US govt (and the Iranian govt) that would be really, really interested to know what you know about all this weaponry. Better spill Asoka. This ain’t kid stuff we’re talking about.
    Or like I said, all you have to do is admit you’re so full of shit your eyes are brown and all will be forgiven.

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  601. Rhino December 30, 2011 at 3:05 pm #

    I’m busy with Assoka. Why don’t you go sniff up some Vatican gowns. No doubt there’s CIA agents hiding there. Every time I see one of your posts I get a bit stupider.

  602. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 3:06 pm #

    You have me so scared of ten unnamed govt agencies that I dare not reveal anything more. Just attack Iran and see what happens to your oil-dependent nation wherever you are.

  603. metuselah December 30, 2011 at 3:12 pm #

    You know I’m telling the truth. EVERYTHING I say is backed by a long list of facts and documentation researched by historians and other researchers. But you wish to stay in denial and anger, instead of accepting the truth and then doing something about it.

  604. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 3:16 pm #

    It must be hard for you since Judaism is a multi-cultural religion. Perhaps you should seek counseling with a Rabbi or Therapist for your self hatred and racism. After all, light skin is esteemed for its beauty and as a sign of intelligence among the Peoples of the World – even as they hate Whites. Pure Envy.
    Btw, I don’t disapprove of your choice per se. The more the Jews mix with the dark skinned, the less effective they will be at hurting us. Already Isreal is torn by ethnic conflict as per Israel’s “Rosa Parks” – http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/19/world/meast/israel-rosa-parks/index.html
    I’m divided on this one since the good clean White Hasids hate the rest of the White Race with a passion. The pretty Sephard or Oriental Jew is much closer to me culturally and might not hate me at all. Or might – no way to know without meeting her. But the Orthodox – hating Gentiles is part of their religion.

  605. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 3:24 pm #

    The pretty Sephard or Oriental Jew is much closer to me culturally and might not hate me at all.
    =============
    Might not? Vlad, are you going soft on the evil Jews?
    Or do you just love Jewish women for all their great qualities?

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  606. Hancock1863 December 30, 2011 at 3:36 pm #

    I don’t think you’re evil, Marlin.
    Unfortunately, one of the near-universal truths of humanity is that decent, honorable people are often used by sociopaths to achieve their malevolent ends, and we often allow ourselves to be used because it’s in most people’s nature to be followers, to want to believe, trust, obey, and not to ask any uncomfortable questions that might provoke ostracism or a beating or worse.
    Religion, I believe, was designed for just that purpose.
    You see, God wants people to be docile, obedient, and content to work all day with little reward for their “Betters” on the promise of Perfect Justice (and the implied role-reversal) after we die. God wants us to know He’s always watching, like an mobile security camera with facial recognition and AI capabilities. God wants us to take care of each other because it’s the right thing to do. (which it is – even a broken clock, you know, but it serves Richie Rich more than it is a righteous idea, which is why it got in there in the first place, I speculate)
    Coincidentally, what God wants is exactly what Richie Rich wants. Of course he wants us in fear of eternal heavenly surveillance, the better to control us with fear (at least until Richie’s science-slaves invented actual eternal surveillance for all). Of course he wants us to spend our limited tax or private incomes helping each other. You think Richie Rich wants to waste his precious stolen funds on caring for a bunch of talking dogs like us who are as replaceable as piston rods in his Taylorist institutions?
    Why do that when he can just discard the old dogs to the pound (who cares what happens after that, dont’cha know, we’re just dogs) and replace them with some fresh ones? Which is more cost-effective? Which is more profitable to the REAL Human Beings (as they see themselves and always have, as a class) in the top 0.01%?
    Either God is made in man’s image or man is made in God’s image.
    In either case, that would seem to indicate that the Judeo-Chritian-Islamic God’s not someone you’d want to turn your back on, for he’ll stick a knife in, the sociopath in who’s image our Rulers and Lower-Class Criminals are made.
    But you see, that’s what divide and conquer is and always has been about. Richie Rich can’t hire one-half of the poor to kill the other half unless the poor are divided. That’s a philosophy older than Caesar…much older.
    I’ll say it again: What is going on in this country is so NOT about Left and Right, but between (lower case) right and WRONG.
    Nor does it matter that the two Left and Right-hand sock puppets are connected through wrists, arms and hands to the same puppetmaster hiding behind the curtain and both speaking in his voice.
    Because it’s evolutionary biology from the reptile brain that overrides the neocortex that we like (or are susceptible to being manipulated into) forming sometimes arbitrary groups and hating each other. Which probably served a survival purpose in 10,000 BC.
    Divide and Conquer wins again. As do God and Richie Rich.

  607. messianicdruid December 30, 2011 at 3:38 pm #

    “Before you answer, consider Capeheart.”
    Others may not agree with you:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ej5_rZof7MA#!

  608. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 3:44 pm #

    Thanks, MD.
    I could only support RP if I was a Leninist. I am not a Leninist.

  609. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 3:44 pm #

    Liar. You’re one beaten dog and you know it. You get paid to think? That’s frightening since you mistake thinking for posturing.

  610. metuselah December 30, 2011 at 3:48 pm #

    LOL! Your CIA/Vatican/MSM nazi propaganda is just that. You must be the last idiot on the planet to still believe their propaganda lies. Most marriages in Israel are mixed marriages. Any Israeli, whatever their background, will completely laugh your CIA/Vatican/MSM nazi propaganda right off.

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  611. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 3:53 pm #

    I’ve had Jewish Girlfriends before my Awakening and I still have a Jewish Friend who knows my views. He is an amazing individual yet even he can’t talk about it much. Not one Jew in a million is capable of talking about their people like most Whites can talk about their’s – with other people.
    After hours of debate, my friend would say in a tight tortured voice, “I know they are up to no good over there” about the Israelis. Next time we met it would be back to square one again. Yet however difficult it was for him, he knew that I was on to something – his brother had gone Orthodox and was full of hatred for all Christians and Non Jews. Also my friend did search out the Truth about the Talmud.
    There is apparently far more debate in Israel. Jews can talk to each other about these things. With us, it’s always “the dogs bicker but unite when the wolf shows up” as the old saying goes. Nice assimilation huh? I’m going to avoid close relationships with them in the future.

  612. Hancock1863 December 30, 2011 at 3:53 pm #

    I agree with you. Your position is exactly that of John Birth: Communism is a creation of the Bankers for the purpose of destroying Aristocracy. Communism 2.0 is to help destroy the middle class and traditional Capitalism – with lots of direct help from the Federal Goverment(s).

    That’s not what I said at all. Nothing near it, in fact.
    That you love and defend Aristocracy is unsurprising. Your entire philosophy centers around the glorification of inequality, exploitation, manipulation, deception, unfairness, domination of the weak by the strong, and cruelty.
    You try to hide it, but not very well.
    You certainly do need your own blog to enlighten the world with your munificence of “ideas”.
    Excuse me, but after having you “agree” with me (even though what you were agreeing with is nothing like what I actually said), I need a shower.

  613. Buck Stud December 30, 2011 at 4:02 pm #

    I admit it was a good point, never mind the dates. Too bad you see no value in harmonious and peaceful race relations. After all, how long would it take a diabolical group of racists to poor gasoline over the racial progress of the last fifty years? Not long indeed, and yet, your ilk would declare the smoldering remains as preordained and inevitable, even as you tuck away the match fuse from the light of day.
    There’s a lot more to being honest that conceding a point.

  614. Hancock1863 December 30, 2011 at 4:09 pm #

    Also, I don’t think you’re dumb as a box of rocks. Not even close.
    Unfortunately, there seems to be little correlation between raw intellignce/learning and a person’s ability to resist propaganda.
    I’ve known Ph.Ds who had little to no ability in that area, and I have known high-school dropouts who had critical thinking skills that were magnificent in that area.
    I don’t understand it, but I cannot dismiss what I have experienced.

  615. dale December 30, 2011 at 5:53 pm #

    Liar. You’re one beaten dog and you know it.
    —————————————
    Now I’m beginning to wonder if anyone knows what you are talking about….or cares?

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  616. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 6:53 pm #

    You’re prejudiced against me because of my White Nationalism, therefore you can’t hear anything I say. I’m against the false Aristocracy of the Corporate Thieves and Banksters. I’m for the True Aristocracy of Merit and Breeding. But I suppose you’re against that too….

  617. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 7:01 pm #

    All the “racial progress” has been at our expense. We can’t give any more yet they are importing even more minorities to go on welfare or take the few jobs that are left. Sure there’s going to be trouble – and you think that it will be our fault? Btw, we know most Whites still think like you. And we know the Feds are still far too powerful. So we must wait knowing how many outrages it will take until hearts and minds like your’s begin to soften and awaken. People like Alexandra – never. I’m amazed that I’m the only one who calls her on her viciousness. Amazed. She enjoys it you see. She likes the idea of poor Whites freezing to death.
    Multi-Racial Nations don’t work. Even Multi-Ethnic Nations can come to grief – even of the same Race and almost the same Religion. But bringing in people totally different who have a historical grudge against us? Suicide.

  618. Widespreadpanic7 December 30, 2011 at 7:27 pm #

    Good to hear from you again, Hancock 1863. Highly intelligent posts per usual.
    Asoka, I looked up the capabilities of the Iranian Navy, and it would last about 15 min. in a fight with the US 5th fleet. There is the problem of land based, exocet style missiles, which did so much damage in the Falklands War, being launched from the interior, but they would be quickly located and destroyed by our own cruise missiles and aircraft. If the Iranians try to close those straits they would be quickly defeated, maybe even cease to be legitimate rulers in the eyes of the Iranian people. i doubt if they’ll risk it.
    –WSP7

  619. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 7:41 pm #

    You looked up Iranian military capability on the Internet? Wow! Another innocent.
    Could I look up the schematics for stealth drones or the exact amount of the CIA black budget?
    Do you really have that much faith in the Internet?
    Military secrets, recent weapons from China? Really, public information? Really?

  620. DeeJones December 30, 2011 at 7:44 pm #

    ASOKA: YOu are losing your cool, man. Please, don’t do that. Go outside, take a deep breath of the fresh air, look at the sunset, moon & stars, and just appreciate where you are.
    Let it all go: The USA, Iran, war, etc.
    Relax now, you are beyond all that. Let it go.
    Isn’t this why you left the US in the first place?
    Now, its all cool, is it not? Remember, there are some things that are just beyond our control. But we are always in our control.
    Pick a bananna or papaya off the tree for dinner or breakfast tomorrow. Enjoy.
    The USA is the past, there is nothing you can do for it, its like a Bronto that has had its head bitten off by a Tyrano, it will keep stumbling along thru the forest for awhile until its body realizes its dead, then it will fall over. You have made the good fortune to get out from under where it will fall. Hopefully, the US IS an awful big dino…..
    😉
    PS, I thought you were just ‘down south’ checking things out, didn’t realize you had actually made the big move.

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  621. progress2conserve December 30, 2011 at 7:56 pm #

    Hey WSP,
    Never in a million years would I compare your intellect to that of a box of rocks – not even to a whole truckload, man! 😉
    And yeah, this place tilts left. I’ve talked about that before – and, back in the day, I was trying to encourage LingLing/TsaTsa/Tootsie, to settle down and stick to the facts, because CFN really does need more conservative voices.
    Conservative voices will come into CFN – but they won’t stick around for long usually. Some of it is asoka. and his formulaic “button pushing.” Maybe that’s all of it. And I’m glad you’re sticking around – hope you always do. Are you going to the Keys this winter, btw?
    I do worry about FOX News, maybe because I’m totally surrounded by it here in the South, by friends, family, doctors offices, and most every business I go in. I think the way FOX blends news and opinion is scary – and bad “news” for the Nation in the long run. And I don’t know why news has to be “Fair and BALANCED,” why can’t news just be FACTUAL reports about things that are happening that should be, you know, NEWS?
    FOX is totally and deliberately doing their dead level BEST to marginalize Ron Paul, for example.
    Other networks are, too, I know.
    But that doesn’t make it right.

  622. bubbleheadMarc December 30, 2011 at 8:03 pm #

    I really liked your post about the Africans and the yanomamo shaman who converted to Christianity. If you want to know why Anglicans are nothing but Unitarians in medievalist drag try reading “God’s Funeral”.
    In terms of your race thinking it is not remarkable in the least to me, because I work in an ultra-bigoted atmosphere in a crappy violent blue collar neighborhood which is “turning”. In other words, I have customers and co-workers who could make you look like a Berkeley political science professor so this is one of the reasons why I’ve not been disturbed at all by your ideas. Nevertheless, I think there is a tendency to over-categorize on your part. What this statement means to me is that illusion is maya, or the tendency to try to measure everything, making fine distinctions, when in fact everything is melded together continuously without any real or substantial or permanent distinctions. Which is to say that scumbags act like they do not because they’re members of some ethnic group but simply because they’re low-rent assholes, and assholes, being a majority of the population [so far as I can tell] come in all shapes, sizes, and national origins. There will never be a shortage of assholes.

  623. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 8:09 pm #

    Thanks, Dee. I did have fresh mango and papaya for breakfast. I am just visiting and will be going back to the southwest. Still spending part of each year in USA for now.

  624. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 8:14 pm #

    WSP7, I agree with Procon… Yours is an important voice on CFN.

  625. bubbleheadMarc December 30, 2011 at 8:41 pm #

    I like and approve of your grimness of outlook, as after all, as one of the regulars at a local AA meeting was fond of saying “reality sucks”. Nevertheless, don’t forget that after the Black Death in fourteenth century Europe the peasants were actually better off, because there was less pressure on resources after the massive die-off of about one-third of the population. And you can count on there being a similarly massive die-off when industrial civilization takes a powder when the fossil fuels peter out. Of course it’s not going to be fun being one of those fated to “die off”.

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  626. BeantownBill December 30, 2011 at 8:45 pm #

    Asoka, Americans being a bloody people, would not nuclear sabor-rattle if Iran unleashed a nuclear weapon on US soil. America would launch, baby, launch a flotilla of nuclear-tipped missiles, enough to insure that Iran becomes one, big, glowing glassy lake. The US would not try to scare the Iranians, but would just go ahead and annihilate them. That being said, I believe war is wrong, very wrong, and I would hope that the ME situation never deteriorates to that level.
    I don’t know if you’ve ever read his works, but Theodore Sturgeon wrote a short story called “Thunder and Roses”, possibly the finest nuclear war story ever written. The philosophy espoused in the story is you, and I heartily recommend you reading it, and then telling me your reaction.

  627. BeantownBill December 30, 2011 at 8:53 pm #

    Asians, as personified by the attenuated Mongoloid American Indians, never even invented the wheel. Relatively recent in time, George Washington Carver made great contributions; prehistoric Africans invented many tools, such as the atlatl. I’m not praising or denigrating any race, just stating facts.

  628. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 9:20 pm #

    Then why do you keep talking to me and getting beaten? You accused me of be for Tyranny – a ridiculous claim.

  629. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 9:40 pm #

    Bean town, you think Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, etc. would not be affected by a nuclear winter in the Middle East? Does anybody think of these things? Or is it just assumed we can do whatever we want with our nukes and our allies be damned?
    Do we have a giant fan to direct winds away from our allies? I do not think so. I think Iran is willing to call our bluff.
    We will not choose the theatre of war. We will not nuke anyone. Europe and Asia will have a say. Russia and China might speak in kind.
    Thanks for the reference.

  630. Buck Stud December 30, 2011 at 9:42 pm #

    One major problem with your condemnation of ethnic diversity within a nation is you’ve never been able to define “America Culture” beyond some misty references to merit and white skin pigmentation. In fact, if American culture can be defined as unbridled consumerism, then American culture is flourishing in many sections of the globe. Have you ever watched the Mexican stations such as Telemundo etc? Almost pure knock-offs of American TV. You claim they hate us; their cultural emulation and consumer sentiment suggests otherwise.
    Perhaps you will define American culture?

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  632. mika. December 30, 2011 at 9:44 pm #

    Nevertheless, don’t forget that after the Black Death in fourteenth century Europe the peasants were actually better off, because there was less pressure on resources after the massive die-off of about one-third of the population.
    ==
    Actually, no. What really relieved the peasantry in Europe was the fact that Black Plague did not discriminate between the aristocracy and the peasantry. With many of the aristocracy killed by the plague, the peasantry had a much easier life. That led to the creation of new trade and the middle class, which led to the creation of the printing press and the protestant reformation. The 30 year war ensued and the agents of darkness and oppression, the vatican and their aristocracy, was dealt a temporary setback. I say temporary, because the people that today control world events and that controlled world events for at least the last 150 years, in one way or another are controlled and manipulated by the Vatican and the Jesuit order. Unless this becomes widely known and understood, we the peasantry will be back in the dark ages once again.

  633. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 9:45 pm #

    Believe it or not, I feel alot of kinship with you. There is no way to win with Assholes, beat them and they’ll keep on coming. The only way to win is to avoid them. As C.S Lewis said, Someday there has to be a separation and the unregenerate have to stop having the power to ruin the happiness of the good.
    But some Assholes are better than others – in other words, not psychopaths just dicks. And some of them are alright for other people – but find eccentrics like us to much to resist. And lastly, some Assholes are smart and do important things. Imagine working for one…. In other words, White and Asian assholes will create and maintain Civilizations, Hispanic and Muslim Assholes lower Civilizations. Blacks Assholes no Civilizations per se, just villages perhaps.
    And even more lastly, some Assholes just have a personal grudge against us – as opposed to a deep prejudice even before that. There might be a limit to an Asshole’s assholery – but not if prejudice is involved as well. So obviously I’m “for” White Assholes before the other kinds. Of course this position requires some emotional distance and maturity. I was embarassed for Martin when he exclaimed “that Whites have treated me worse than anyone” – I mean that’s by definition if you grew up in a White Society. What do you say when a smart man says something so puerile? He hasn’t dealt with his childish and adolescent rage – and being a Nationalist means having dealt with those kinds of personal issues.
    If Whites were able to create their own Republic, I’m sure it would be wonderful and full of Assholes as well. But there would at least be a chance of the hands off approach to life I have come to expect and possibly the maintainance of an industrial base. Sure Asians could do it too – but they are very ethocentric – you know that I hope? No place for Whites be they Assholes or Not.
    Reading your posts have helped me to realize that other people are suffering in the same way I have all my life. My definition of success is largely negative as is your’s: get away from them. C.S Lewis had some of this kind of feeling as well.
    My Black Professor told us how as kids they tormented the Randy the Peace Corps Worker – yelling outside his house to wake him up in the morning. Very little privacy in that culture as Jung found as well. We debated it – I saying how eccentrics going their own way have made many discoveries that helped people. He insisting that people can’t be too strange and must be understood by the Community. He chuckled with pleasure as he remembered how they tormented Randy in a nice way. A perfect culture for Assholes. Working with West Africans, I got used to them yelling instead of talking. I learned to do it too. Couldn’t get to sleep after one shift -I was so energized from such a yelling match/conversation.

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  637. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 10:04 pm #

    ‘Too bad you see no value in harmonious and peaceful race relations’
    Too bad you cant Show me them in USA.
    Do so and ill be happy!

    I define US Culture as Euro Culture and the English language.
    Both are sinking fast.

  638. San Jose Mom 51 December 30, 2011 at 10:06 pm #

    I’ve never been to Florida! I have no desire to go. The only states I haven’t visited are Mississippi and Alabama. The humid climate doesn’t suit me.

  639. San Jose Mom 51 December 30, 2011 at 10:11 pm #

    Of course.

  640. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 10:13 pm #

    are we selling the rug from under us?
    Gas and other fuels are top US export
    Associated PressBy CHRIS KAHN
    For the first time, the top export of the United States, the world’s biggest gas guzzler, is _ wait for it _ fuel. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip, File)
    l …
    NEW YORK (AP) — For the first time, the top export of the United States, the world’s biggest gas guzzler, is — wait for it — fuel.
    Measured in dollars, the nation is on pace this year to ship more gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel than any other single export, according to U.S. Census data going back to 1990. It will also be the first year in more than 60 that America has been a net exporter of these fuels.
    Just how big of a shift is this? A decade ago, fuel wasn’t even among the top 25 exports. And for the last five years, America’s top export was aircraft.
    The trend is significant because for decades the U.S. has relied on huge imports of fuel from Europe in order to meet demand. It only reinforced the image of America as an energy hog. And up until a few years ago, whenever gasoline prices climbed, there were complaints in Congress that U.S. refiners were not growing quickly enough to satisfy domestic demand; that controversy would appear to be over.
    Still, the U.S. is nowhere close to energy independence. America is still the world’s largest importer of crude oil. From January to October, the country imported 2.7 billion barrels of oil worth roughly $280 billion.
    Fuel exports, worth an estimated $88 billion in 2011, have surged for two reasons…………

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  641. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 10:14 pm #

    Correction
    Do we have a giant fan to direct RADIATION winds away from our allies?
    I do not think so. I think Iran is willing to call our bluff.
    We will be nuked. We will not be nuking.

  642. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 10:16 pm #

    So Asians and whites invented 90% of whats good?
    The Africans do have the Pyramids…but the Muslims are destroying Egypt fast, seriously.

  643. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 10:25 pm #

    [sarcasm on]
    To more precise, if your ancestors are not White, Anglo-Saxon, and Protestant, or Red or brought here chained to the bottom of a slave ship, you do not belong here.
    Get the hell out of MY country!
    [sarcasm off]

  644. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 10:55 pm #

    That’s not true. Skin Color is just a sign of the genome as a whole including the high IQ and Creativity. I’ve said all this many times. You just don’t buy it – despite the evidence. If Blacks were just the same as White Men inside, we’d be exactly the bigots you say we are. But of course they’re hardly just White Men with good tans.
    And of course there is the Cultural Heritage of Europe. Sure a bit vague because of the many influences from the many countries. But there was something of an American Identity that had formed or somethings in terms of the classes. That, and the pretence that class had been left behind in Europe made it very difficult and no, it wasn’t done with much finesse. But we had survived. We were all European and mostly Christian. Free Thinkers were tolerated. All changed now. And what’s coming doesn’t have a chance of working – it’s predicated on the idea of Whites as basically slaves supporting everyone. But the jobs are gone – and more to the point, why the hell should we work like we used to? We’ve been betrayed – even by our own women. So we go on strike until the time is right – and then step out of our way if you can’t lend a hand.

  645. BeantownBill December 30, 2011 at 11:10 pm #

    I was referring to a situation where Iran initiated a nuclear attack upon US soil before we did anything physically aggressive to their nation. You think if Iran exploded 5 or 10 bombs here 1st we wouldn’t do likewise 10 times worse and damn what our ME allies thought?

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  646. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 11:18 pm #

    No, the whole context of our discussion is based on a supposed future USA/Israeli attack on Iran and Iran’s explanation of how the Strait of Hormuz works.

  647. asoka. December 30, 2011 at 11:30 pm #

    Iran is not an aggressor nation.
    We have started wars and established military bases in countries next to Iran
    Iran has not bombed, invaded and set up military bases in Canada and Mexico. (even though they both have oil)

  648. Vlad Krandz December 30, 2011 at 11:43 pm #

    Thought more about it and I’ll answer in a less biological way but not confined to America. The most distinguishing trait of the White West is our Promethean Quality – something that no other race has. Other races, particularly in the East, have a desire to transcend themselves in a mystical way. But go to the moon? Climb mountains because they’re there? Seek danger for its own sake? Uniquely Western – other races imitate us sometimes but would never have done these without us doing it first. Other races might seek danger for a purpose – the young Massai sought to prove himself against the Lion. Pain? The Marathon Monks of Mt Hiehi (sp?) go without sleep and food for weeks – coming close to death. To purify themselves. But again, the hardship was not for sport or as an ego accomplishment (in this case, the Orient has a higher motive).
    Other factors as unique or almost as: our objectivity – in its current diseased form we can’t even take our own side in an disputes; also related – the development of science and a love of knowledge for its own sake – not for what it can get us. Also related: our ideal of justice irrespective of rank or title. And ideal we never lived up to but it was there.
    Now compare all this with Mexico. Even compare the West at its best with the United States – we began slipping a long time ago. Mexico never had anything like that, never could concieve of it enough to even desire such things.

  649. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 11:53 pm #

    found this elsewhere:
    Chicago is going to be far worse than Detroit I think, number wise.
    The only thing that may save Chicago is that a bankruptcy judge may look at the sweetheart sales of infrastructure and void the contracts — but that won’t happen soon enough for Rahm.
    Rahm will never be president, he will never be able to recover from the shithole of Chicago he wanted to be mayor of. Chicago is taxing everything across the board
    If you don’t know, Chicago has leased it’s revenue from parking meters, some parking lots, and a toll highway until the 2070s.
    All at prices that were seriously under valued. The items were sold on those days prices …. well not even actually …. the numbers were disgusting. I need to find that paper work I did.

  650. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 11:56 pm #

    What have Blacks Created?
    Not the car, phone, computer, light bulb etcetcetc.

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  651. BeantownBill December 30, 2011 at 11:57 pm #

    Arab muslims are Caucasians. Iranians, I believe, are not arabs, but they are Caucasian, too. Obviously, there are African muslims. I believe the Moors were mostly African muslims.
    Islam was the highest developed civilization in the world in the 10th and 11th century, and since many muslims were black, they also get credit for the invention of Algebra, understood the concept of zero, made advancements in other mathematics, medicine and the sciences. They were the most advanced astronomers on Earth. While most of the constellations were originally Greek, many of their constituent stars are arabic, such as Aldebaran, Rigel, Zubenalgenubi, Mizar, Saiph, etc. Again, I’m just stating facts.
    All of us frequently operate on the basis of “what have you done for me lately?”, so Americans assume that since some peoples have been medieval for the last 1000 years, they never accomplished much. We do owe a debt to those muslims, many of whom were Black, who built the basis of the science and the technology we enjoy today.

  652. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 11:58 pm #

    But will TPTB accelerate the die off into a kill off?

  653. anti soak December 30, 2011 at 11:59 pm #

    Heritage:
    Gimme Liberty or give me death.
    One Nation Under God.
    The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

  654. anti soak December 31, 2011 at 12:01 am #

    Read Emsnews/blog about how folks love 2 things..
    1……….warm weather
    2……….whining about global warming
    Folks go to Florida to escape winter.

  655. BeantownBill December 31, 2011 at 12:02 am #

    Well, I guess we’re talking about 2 different bases. What you say about Iran not being an agressor nation has been true so far, but I wouldn’t bet they stay that way when they develop a nuclear arsenal.

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  656. anti soak December 31, 2011 at 12:05 am #

    from yr post:
    ‘Of course the white man did not ethically build up anything.’
    Says you.

  657. asoka. December 31, 2011 at 12:10 am #

    The development of science and a love of knowledge for its own sake – not for what it can get us.
    ===============
    Try to get a govt research grant “for it’s own sake” …
    Everything has to be justified by benefits.
    I saw some graffiti here in South America:
    Education is to situate ourselves in the Universe, not prepare ourselves for work.

  658. asoka. December 31, 2011 at 12:19 am #

    Says me and the historical record.
    Slavery was the basis of white man industry.
    Chinese immigrants built the railroad.
    Mexican migrants pick the crops.

  659. Vlad Krandz December 31, 2011 at 1:09 am #

    The word on the street is that Susan the Beautiful no longer cares about or even believes in Narnia – but only Nylons, Lipstick and Boyfriends.

  660. anti soak December 31, 2011 at 1:45 am #

    More canards from you my sweet?
    Chinese Immigrants were not ‘slaves’ and were free to go home if things were better there.
    Who Invented the railroad?
    Who vastly improved India [UK, with medicine, railroads,trade].
    ‘Migrants pick crops’..gees ITS CALLED AN HONEST LIVING.
    ‘Slavery was the basis of white man industry.’
    Lies. You lie.
    3000? freed blacks owned slaves. But thats no ‘basis for industry’.

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  661. anti soak December 31, 2011 at 1:52 am #

    From Unamusement park.com:
    The SPLC’s crusade against white rights: examples”: proof that the Southern Poverty Law Center — widely considered to be the pre-eminent authority on hate crime in America — is outrageously, viciously biased against white people.

  662. Vlad Krandz December 31, 2011 at 2:30 am #

    The Blacks and American Indians had slavery too. You think Whites never picked any crops? You don’t think Whites worked on the railroad? You and your record are biased.

  663. asoka. December 31, 2011 at 3:02 am #

    OK, instead of saying it was only whites who built the country, let’s call the USA a triumph of multiculturalism? That is what got us through WWII to the Holy Grail on CFN … the 1950s.
    But you want to make absolutist statements and ignore ALL the intellectual contributions of minorities.

  664. Pucker December 31, 2011 at 6:51 am #

    A more pleasant way is to make a tea out of it, as you can do with San Pedro (trichocereus pachanoi) or Peruvian Torch (trichocereus peruvianus): Cut the peyote into small pieces and put them into a large pot with boiling water. Add the juice of 2-3 lemons, which enhances mescaline absorption into the water. Let the pieces boil for 3 to 4 hours. When this is done, you can discard the used cacti and drink the tea. To improve the taste of the tea, it is recommended to improve its taste with sugar or honey.
    http://www.shayanashop.com/Psychedelic/Live_Cacti/pd-2387-1036-pm26/Naturally_grown_Lophophora_williamsii_Peyote4-6.aspx
    “Pucker —
    This holiday has felt a bit like one last long, deep breath before we plunge into 2012.
    This time next year, I don’t want us to have any regrets. I want to be able to say we rose to the task, and got it done. We’ve all got some work to do right now.
    Over the next 11 months we’ve got an organization to grow, voters to register, and people to get fired up.
    I hope you’ll close out this year by donating $3 or more now to help make sure we’re ready for the next one:
    https://donate.barackobama.com/No-Regrets
    Thank you so much, and happy new year,
    Michelle
    P.S. — Also, when you donate today, you are automatically entered for a chance to be one of three supporters to have dinner with Barack and me.”

  665. lbendet December 31, 2011 at 8:39 am #

    Power is never having to say you’re sorry
    As we leave Iraq the Orwellian crew is telling us through the mouth of Obama that the Iraq war was a success. Yes we installed democracy and got rid of Sadam. Forget the fact that we tore the country apart and now have more raw Iranian power in the region. How the hell was that supposed to be a good thing?
    But of course, you know with a a track record like that and Iran quest for nuclear power in the region, it’s time for the colossus to gear up for Syria the proxy against Russia and Iran. They’ve been warned, they better not obstruct the Straits of Hormuz, or else…
    Oh please, let’s not mention the Stan Stan Stans (Af and Pak and the Nabucco pipeline)
    Let’s stir up the global pot for a new cold war with China and Russia-now that’s the ticket. Forget all your little worries about the economy–that my friends will be all taken care of with the next military interventions–
    How?–Who knows, it’s worked in the past and when all else fails it’s worth a try. As we all know the contractors will get very rich in the process–just not us.
    Newt G is wants John Bolton for Sec of State, as I’ve mentioned before. So the Neo-Con aggression is back on the slate for preemptive war. I don’t think it takes a rocket scientist to know what you’re voting for if you choose Newt. I don’t care how much he cries.
    So, as usual the American people have nothing to say about more interventions. Between giving trillions to the banksters and bolstering up specific industries, more Globalist treaties to take more jobs away, the minority rules with no apologies to anyone.

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  666. Alexandra December 31, 2011 at 8:47 am #

    Oigh!.. Bleedin white heart Krandz-i-pants…
    Stop assuming things about what I will or won’t do, and vilifying my name to the CFN brethren as in reality (a place you don’t inhabit), you’re completely clueless as to whom I be, what I think… feel… or in fact believe in.
    But its crystal-clear that you spend far too much time, bleary bug-eyed, locked onto a PC screen typing your narrow-minded blinkered drivel here, which continually pollutes dear old JFKs site. And your bigoted ‘ism/cist’ views could at worst be just slightly bearable if at least just occasionally you were to truly lend some genuine insight that actually might be construed as being (a) true or (b) of some real social community value.
    But nope, nothing you twitter away at week after week meets those two criterion. Though there are thankfully many here that type and do, which is why I flit back in here, oft for film/doc info stuff which has been of true value to me. Though I’m sure due to your overindulgent extreme pursuit of self, your views have tired many a patient souls temper, which has driven other more erudite thinkers away… which is a genuine shame.
    So here’s a New Year’s resolution tip for you… go off and spend some of your food-stamp/welfare money on building your own website, and if you can’t afford to go do that, then download your own (free) template blog site. Then at least your endorphin sparking habit of typing meaningless nonsense endlessly, much like old69/uhljayashi/vnrwandkhb does can carry on more harmlessly unabated for your own sweet sake… while giving the rest of the CFN folk there well deserved break.
    Finally an IT/tech story that tells you anonymous strikes do work…
    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/anonymous-101-part-deux/
    Happy New Year y’all, (to the many quality thinkers here)…. and Jim Kunstler himself of course!
    Be seeing you…

  667. progress2conserve December 31, 2011 at 9:02 am #

    Hancock1863, and hopefully others, will be interested in this excerpt from JMG. The word “thaumaturge,” may be off-putting. But the reader can substitute “brainwashing,” with little change in the overall meaning.
    I’ve been asking “why are TPTB so STUPID?”
    And here’s the answer –
    BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEIR OWN BRAINWASHING!
    “It’s a common enough mistake, too. In a post last year, I discussed Adolf Hitler, whose career is among the best documented examples both of the power and of the pitfalls of political thaumaturgy. Hitler’s meteoric rise to power and the extraordinary control he achieved over the imagination of the German people are a remarkable example of thaumaturgy at work, and readers interested in figuring out how political thaumaturgy functions could do worse than study the Nazi regime’s systematic transformation of an entire nation into ritual theater hammering on a handful of primal biological drives. The result of that effort is just as telling; the process of convincing Germany that he was invincible convinced Hitler of the same thing, and he proceeded to destroy himself and his regime in a crescendo of blunders that all followed from his inability to imagine that he could be mistaken.
    For an example much closer to home, consider the way that the privileged classes in contemporary America by and large support policies that, in exchange for absurdly huge short term gains, are sawing away at the basis of their wealth and privilege, and may ultimately leave many members of those classes dangling from lampposts. Awarding multibillion-dollar bonuses to bank executives when their banks are losing money and most Americans are going broke is, shall we say, not a strategy with a long shelf life. It may be possible for a while to insist that all that money is going to trickle down and create jobs, but when the jobs don’t appear—and they won’t, because diverting money from the productive economy of nonfiscal goods and services to the unproductive economy of high finance is an effective way to cause jobs to be lost rather than gained—that claim isn’t going to hold up well.
    John Kenneth Galbraith’s comparison of the American political class to the French aristocracy on the eve of the Revolution thus may yet turn out to be even more prescient than Galbraith thought. That America’s privileged classes don’t see this coming is another example of the way thaumaturgy recoils on its practitioners: decades of public relations meant to justify the parasitic habits of the finance sector have produced generations of financiers who believe implicitly in their own propaganda. Thus they’ve been repeatedly blindsided by the failure of the economy to conform to their beliefs, and it doesn’t seem likely that they’ll do any better when the stakes in the game change from money to blood.”
    http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2011/10/plutos-republic.html

  668. lbendet December 31, 2011 at 9:13 am #

    Great Post, P2C!
    Very much the problem, isn’t it?
    The destruction of education here is part of the problem. Rational and discerning thinking is not part of our culture, but true enough quick fixes and fast turn-arounds is what we’re all about.
    The use of Christianity for the the ends of destroying the middle class is truly amazing as well.
    The right wing tactic is to say that Obama is in a war against religion.

  669. DeeJones December 31, 2011 at 9:28 am #

    Asoka, BTB, WSP, et al:
    Iran, even if they had a bomb, is not stupid enough to attack the US or Israel (which has hundreds). They know they would suffer the consequences. BUT, they, as any other nation, DO have the right to self defense, and to retaliate in kind if they are attacked with nuclear weapons, of which Israel has hundreds, and they are not targeted at the Moon.
    Iran has never ever said that they would be the ones to use such first, only in retaliation if attacked first. On the other had both Israel & the US have stated in clear terms that they WOULD use nuclear weapons against Iran in a first strike.
    Right now Iran does NOT have such weapons, nor do they have missiles capable of reaching the US, but they know that the only way they they could retaliate against US aggression is where it would hurt the US & NATO the most: By hitting the oil shipping and storage in the Persian Gulf.
    The US knows this, which is why they are shipping all kinds of missiles to the Arab states. But Iran has built thousands of short range missiles that are targeted on the oil terminals, and any damage would probably take years to repair. How much oil does the US have in its SOR? A few months worth at most.
    So, this leaves the US, NATO & Israel holding guns to Irans head, and Iran holding a gun to their balls. A ‘Mexican Standoff’.
    Unless the US is 1000% certain that their anti-missiles can shoot down ALL of Irans, they will not risk an attack on them.
    Unless you all want $200/gallon gas….IN the first week of a war.
    😉
    (Cr)Happy New Year everyone!

  670. progress2conserve December 31, 2011 at 9:34 am #

    “The ability to assign differing degrees of importance to people based on their relationship to ourselves is also likely an evolutionary trait which ill-serves us today as much as it well-served us in 10,000 BC.”
    -hancock-
    I don’t know about this one, HC. “Political Correctness” as currently practiced is ALL about the dominant culture (WASP) in the United States diminishing its OWN importance- in favor of non-WASP cultures and practices.
    Which might be OK, if it stopped there.
    But it doesn’t stop there.
    For example, in a logical world, every truckload of US food or humanitarian aid – would be followed by another truckload of birth control devices and the bribes, personnel, and PR materials, that would get that birth control successfully implemented.
    That this has never happened is due to a squishy and unfortunate sort of Political Correctness.
    And a LOT of people are suffering because of it.
    And such suffering will intensify greatly, in an energy-descending World.
    Stupid, unthinking PTB.

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  671. Rhino December 31, 2011 at 9:59 am #

    And don’t forget the Israelis.
    OK let’s just agree then that you’re totally full of shit.
    We’re not finished. Let’s re-examine this racism stuff.
    You made two statements, that Americans are ignorant barbarians and that Iranians are beautiful people.
    So, the USA being a multi-racial country and the Iranians also (having no doubt incorporated into their gene pool many conquered peoples and migrants) maybe it IS too big a stretch to ask if you’re a piece of shit racist given that in both countries there’s racial diversity. As I said it was a question and not an accusation. And besides you said you are not. So let’s take you at your word.
    But maybe we should ask if you’re a piece of shit bigot? Would that coat fit any better? Painting all these hundreds of millions of widely disparate people with the same brush ie “ignorant” and “barbarians” sounds like rank bigotry to me. What does it sound like to you?
    People like Wagelaborer and Lbendet (both being Americans if I’m not mistaken) would also be “ignorant barbarians” according to you. Wouldn’t they?
    Maybe I’ve misinterpreted your posts and twisted your words. If I have then I profusely apologise. And besides Asoka, these are just questions and not accusations. I’d just like to clarify your meaning in aid of honest and forthright discussion.

  672. ozone December 31, 2011 at 10:11 am #

    …And so, we see the laddies a very busy boy here. (Either a busy boy cranked on meth, or several li’l elfin nazis [lower-case]).
    Shore is a loooong shift. We see he took a break from 4 in the morning to 12 noon (sleep?), then back to the salt mines from that point to 2:30 am. That would be about 14 1/2 uninterrupted hours of diarrheal spew and splatter. (This is not to say he’s not busy depositing a turd in the punchbowls of other blogs during his shift.)
    That was just a casual scan-thru of his posting headers (I can’t abide to READ any of that irrelevant carping.)
    You don’t suspect this could be his [camo-clad] JOB?
    Maybe now you’ll see why I do…
    the laddie don’t get PAID to cobble together his own blog, and that’s why he’ll stay right-the-fuck-here as a pure psy-ops asswipe. (A traitor to his nation of the most venal and repugnant sort. Useful toady to TPTB for food and pay.)

  673. ozone December 31, 2011 at 10:12 am #

    …And it’s not about “beliefs”, it’s about simple disruption.

  674. progress2conserve December 31, 2011 at 10:14 am #

    And speaking of concern for others –
    I’m concerned about Q.
    He hasn’t posted to CFN in about a month, now.
    He stopped in the middle of a week, without explanation. He had just made a post bragging about his prowess at picking stocks for some sort of national stock-picking game. There was a cash prize to the game, as I recall. Maybe that’s relevant, I sort of hope it is.
    Someone had upbraided Q for talking about his stock picking success on CFN. And I had written a post that sort-of defended him (Q), telling the thread that watching the behavior of the US stock market and individual stocks could be a very helpful look “under the hood” of the economy – whether one had money invested or not.
    Perhaps the surprise of my kind words directed in his direction caused our Q to clutch his chest and keel over off of his computer chair. I’ve always heard the phrase, “killing someone with kindness,” but I have never seen the concept implemented, for real, in real life. I certainly never meant to do it to Q. I’d apologize, but Q always hated it when people apologized.
    Q said once that he had build a coffin for himself that included a scale model of a pool table. Maybe someone can do an internet search for a burial in the Northeast that included something like that – it’s a fairly unique GOOGLE search string, for sure.
    Of course, he also said that he had left a note for his wife – with CFN logon instructions and Q’s final words to the thread. So, perhaps we’ll hear from Q yet, from beyond the grave.
    Or maybe he won that stock contest and won a big cash award for it. In which case he’s on a big round-the-world cruise right now.
    Anyway, best of luck to you, Q –
    Wherever you are.
    And, in case I don’t get back on here today, let me take the opportunity, now, to wish a very
    Happy New Year to each and every member of the Cluster Fuck Nation.

  675. ozone December 31, 2011 at 10:15 am #

    Nice recipe, Pucker!
    Heavy New Year, Dude! ;o)

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  676. ozone December 31, 2011 at 10:25 am #

    “Let’s stir up the global pot for a new cold war with China and Russia-now that’s the ticket. Forget all your little worries about the economy–that my friends will be all taken care of with the next military interventions–
    How?–Who knows, it’s worked in the past and when all else fails it’s worth a try. As we all know the contractors will get very rich in the process–just not us.” -LB
    Boosting profits through large-scale killin’s and weapons-building.
    There are those that might not believe your premise!
    ;o)
    However, things have changed; and not everyone has their “own” [in-nation] easily-extracted energy supplies. It’s what the Japanese were after, and what the Nazis forgot, and what we “had”. No more; that’s why our adventures are desperately cloaked in “helping”. We can’t be seen to be going for control of the whole enchilada (at least within our own borders).

  677. Rhino December 31, 2011 at 10:36 am #

    Great post.
    I think what you’re saying is that the top 1% don’t see themselves as dependent on a social, political and economic life support system as provided by the nation state which is comprised mainly by the efforts and labors of the bottom 99%.
    IMO what the top 1% are doing is tearing apart the fabric of this life support system much the same as the French aristocracy, the Romanovs, the communists did.
    I saw Niall Ferguson on an TV interview program. One of his points was that (and I’m paraphrasing) history proceeds in spasms ie things go along until they don’t and then you get a huge upheaval like the Bolshevik Revolution or the overthrow of eastern European communist regimes or this current unpleasantness happening in North africa and Syria.
    It’s like little rivulets of widely disparate events coming together into a Niagara Falls of crises and mayhem.
    I think it’s the little rivulets that the top 1% don’t see. Each individual layoffs, each individual plant closure may look by itself insignificant in the wider scheme but they all add up into a broader tapestry. And the top 1% don’t see or refuse to see the broader tapestry stitching itself together which as you say can finish with large numbers of them hanging from lamp-posts.

  678. ozone December 31, 2011 at 10:36 am #

    Have a safe and fun New Year’s Eve!
    Don’t take any wooden nickels in the coming Clusterfuckian year. ;o)

  679. ozone December 31, 2011 at 10:39 am #

    P2C,
    I had read that post of Greer’s; ’twere a good ‘un!
    Thanks for excerpting.

  680. ozone December 31, 2011 at 11:26 am #

    LB,
    For youse and others interested, here’s a little something from the echoing and far distant past of 2004 which bears a revisit, as little has changed in weaponry and Iranian terrain since that time. (I remember it as having left quite an impression; I’ve never forgotten it, which is why I recovered it so easily.)
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7147.htm
    Mebbe the “nuclear option” (ain’t that just a cute li’l phrase?) could be a balls-to-the-wall super gamble to melt down/incapacitate the rocky regions on the coast, preventing the firing of missles into military fleets and oil-tankers?
    Pentagonian minds want to know! (…how many Sunburns are floating around/installed and how many were in that “cancelled” order with the Russkies.)

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  681. Widespreadpanic7 December 31, 2011 at 11:44 am #

    P2C, as an aside, a few summers ago I was on a tool buying trip at various flea markets in Vermont & northern Mass. I happened upon a used book sale at a Congregational Church in Newfane VT, one of those sales where you get a whole bagfull of books for just a few dollars. There were some good books and I picked out some interesting titles, among them books on the Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, and Communist infiltration in the USA (‘The Haunted Wood’). Upon examining them when I got home all the political books were inscribed “John Kenneth Galbraith” or “Property of John Kenneth Galbraith”. I don’t know how his books ended up in that church in Vermont. Just one of those things.
    —WSP7

  682. ozone December 31, 2011 at 11:55 am #

    (One can see that if the Is-mericans should happen to try anything blatantly Pentagonian, this ancient article will instantly bear the label of: extremely prescient. We must try and remember how well the Pentagon “learned its lesson” in the Vietnamese police-action. IOW, not at all.)

  683. ozone December 31, 2011 at 12:01 pm #

    Wow, how kewl izzat?!
    (See what happens when you kick? Your kids give away all your carefully acquired neat-o books and stuff! I think that’s why my dad tried to whittle his stuff down to manageable piles before he had to do the mortal shuffle. My neighbor’s dad left behind boxes upon boxes of antique tomes that had to be sold to a single buyer ’cause nobody in the family wanted them! Ooooooo, the waste, the waste; ya can’t Kindle that.)

  684. mika. December 31, 2011 at 12:08 pm #

    ALL the war mongering by the yankee imperialists and their subservient NATO whores will VERY quickly come to an end should Iran decide to poke the imperialist medusa in eye. Forget blocking the Strait of Hormuz, or this nonsense talk of a nuclear Armageddon. All the Iranians need to do is shell the Sistine Chapel with regular mortar shells. Target the Vatican and its bank assets around the world. The aggression against Iran will very quickly subside.
    Israel should do the same next time Hamas lobs their rockets at Israeli towns. Target the head of the Jihadi snake. The head of the Jihadi snake being the Vatican and the Jesuit order.

  685. mika. December 31, 2011 at 12:26 pm #

    ..poke the imperialist medusa in ^the eye..

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  686. Widespreadpanic7 December 31, 2011 at 12:41 pm #

    Hey Mika shelling the Sistine Chapel might provoke liquidating Mecca & Medina with high explosives attached to the noses of cruise missiles. That’s probably a response Mustafa wouldn’t like very much.
    OZ, what were you doing in Dixie, a little R&R? Did you see my post earlier about that bar where we saw you in Winsted?
    –WSP7

  687. Widespreadpanic7 December 31, 2011 at 12:46 pm #

    Speaking of that what about the news in the past day or so of the US selling all these sophisticated missiles to Saudi Arabia, Oman and Kuwait? A dangerous game we seem to be playing …
    To contain Iran??
    –WSP7

  688. mika. December 31, 2011 at 1:11 pm #

    Hey Mika shelling the Sistine Chapel might provoke liquidating Mecca & Medina with high explosives attached to the noses of cruise missiles.
    ==
    Really? Why is that? When did the US sign a military treaty to defend the Vatican? Israel gets shelled all the time, practically EVERY DAY, and yet I don’t see the US liquidating Mecca & Medina.

  689. ozone December 31, 2011 at 1:29 pm #

    “OZ, what were you doing in Dixie, a little R&R? Did you see my post earlier about that bar where we saw you in Winsted?” -WSP
    Let’s just say I was “visiting for the Holidays”, shall we? ;o)
    Yep, saw that, and I would think it the combination of siphoning too much cash off’n the business and the truly lousy local economy.
    I had warned him, the very first time I rippled the joint, to be careful and he would make it through tough times to come. I expanded: Hire entertainment only when you can afford it (NOT when you assume it will bring cash in like manna from heaven). Live frugally off the proceeds, so you can keep prices low, afford to hire the help, and pay your utilities and suppliers.
    He may have done just that and STILL failed, but I kinda doubt it. I’ve seen too many gin-mills go down through the years, and it’s usually by owner fuck-up (ignoring these simple “rules”).

  690. ozone December 31, 2011 at 1:36 pm #

    “To contain Iran??” -WSP
    I wouldn’t think so. More like vanquish and control, rather than contain.
    Where dat cheap ‘n’ easy energy be at? All them damn fur’riners settin’ on top of our SUV juice.
    Eat D.U., you lite sweet crude hoarders!

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  691. asoka. December 31, 2011 at 2:50 pm #

    People like Wagelaborer and Lbendet (both being Americans if I’m not mistaken) would also be “ignorant barbarians” according to you. Wouldn’t they?
    ===============
    Rhino, those who support the idea that the USA could turn Iran into a nuclear irradiated parking lot without taking into account any moral or geopolitical considerations are ignorant and barbarian. Wage and lbendet are not included in the macho militarist crowd. I think you knew that.

  692. Vlad Krandz December 31, 2011 at 3:01 pm #

    So you support her upper class la-de-da shitting on the poor? Just like Lucan liked her once he realized that she hated the right people. Or like the OWS’s have no problem with millionaires who show up as long as they’re Black Rap stars or PC movie stars.
    Zone, you’re as common as clay and twice as dumb.

  693. Widespreadpanic7 December 31, 2011 at 3:05 pm #

    Mika I know Israel gets shelled every day. Its something I regret and wish would end. It will only end when Hamas & Hezbollah are neutralized. But I don’t understand what the Vatican has to do with it?
    OzP it sounds like you have some working knowledge of the bar business.
    –WSP7

  694. Vlad Krandz December 31, 2011 at 3:06 pm #

    You love the idea of poor Whites (unless they’re good communist poor Whites) starving and freezing to death. It gives you gina tingles. Wretched Wench.

  695. Vlad Krandz December 31, 2011 at 3:13 pm #

    Good analysis. If Israel is so afraid of them, then let them take Iran out. They certainly have the capacity if they use their nuclear weapons. But they fear the come back. So they want us to do it for them and reap the Terrorist Reaction. Nice people. GREEEAAAATT ALLIES.
    Israel is not part of the United States nor is the United States supposed to be run by Israel or Jews loyal to Israel. Yet most of our Foreign Policy is made by dual citizens whose loyalty is obviously to Israel first – and maybe second too.
    Our interests do not coincide with their’s – the interests of our Oil And War Industries do. That’s the damnable knot that Eisenhower warned us about. And who would know better than he, who served the Military Industrial Complex so faithfully. Politicians only tell the Truth at the end of their careers if at all.

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  696. anti soak December 31, 2011 at 3:18 pm #

    The Chinese can go lower but this is a new low:
    China’s New Lucrative Business:
    Dead Babies Turn into Stamina Booster Pills
    A South Korean SBS TV documentary team accuses Chinese pharmaceutical companies of selling dead baby pills as stamina boosters.
    The ground baby powder is put in the capsule, ready to be sold as stamina enhancer, according to the SBS team.
    The team reveals that the truth behind the dead baby pill is horrific and disturbing.
    Chinese hospitals and abortion clinics that are connected to the business immediately notify pharmaceutical companies when a baby dies, mostly because of a still birth or an abortion.
    The companies purchase the baby corpses and store them in some family’s refrigerator to avoid suspicion. The next step in this highly secretive process is putting the corpses in a medical drying microwave and grinding them into pills. The ground baby powder is then put in a capsule, ready to be sold as a stamina enhancer, according to the SBS team.
    The Korean team acquired the dead baby capsules and ran DNA tests on it. The test results reportedly indicated the pills were 99.7 percent human. The test also found hair and nail remnants, and even the gender of the baby could be identified. The process will be aired with visuals in the SBS TV documentary………..

  697. Vlad Krandz December 31, 2011 at 3:18 pm #

    Thank you for telling the Truth. One wily Christian Diplomat convinced people of the Mongol Threat by getting the Mongol emmisaries drunk and talking. They boasted about cutting off breasts, throwing babies up into the air – the usual.
    All people need to do is to let you talk.

  698. anti soak December 31, 2011 at 3:19 pm #

    Ignore her!

  699. Vlad Krandz December 31, 2011 at 3:21 pm #

    As the Hare Krisna guy said (in a Texas Accent), “There’s nothin a whore wont do, and nothin a Chinaman wont eat”.

  700. Vlad Krandz December 31, 2011 at 3:48 pm #

    I canna. She’s the Dragon and I’m Saint George. She’s Medusa and I’m Perseus. The Solar Hero must slay the Cthonic Monster – that the People might live. That the Ozones and Lucans are rooting for the Monster shows them for what they are: thugs of the Matriarchy. Prog is more discrete as he sits on an ever sharpening picket fence. Must be hemoroids he says to himself ruefully. I’m just gettin old.
    Who was it who said that if one sits on the fence too long the wood enters into one’s soul? Not to mention the picket into one’s posterior.

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  701. greyghost05 December 31, 2011 at 3:53 pm #

    I read Anti’s comment. I like your response. As gross as it might sound all you have to do is spend an hour watching Iron Chef or Bizzare Foods with Andrew Zimmerman and you’ll see that the diets in Asia are more then what you get at the Scalded Dog Buffet. They like everything from eyeballs & lips to dicks & assholes. Protien is protien I guess.
    Great quote about gooks & ho’s ! For more on that warm fuzzy quote checkout: http://www.2girls1cup.com
    Happy New Year Clusterfuckers !

  702. Vlad Krandz December 31, 2011 at 4:04 pm #

    But does it work the Chinaman would ask. And it’s this Pragmatism that will catapalt them to World Dominance – even though they are distinctly inferior to Whites at the higher levels of creative thought – not poetry or Metaphysics btw.
    White geniuses will work for them and be paid a moderate wage – enough to go out to dinner twice a month with one vacation a year. The rest of the Whites will be coolies.
    It need not have been – but Whites couldn’t forgive themselves for not being perfect – and the Liberals would not relent until Whites were “equalized” with the rest of the world. That a drowning person should drag down his rescuer makes perfect sense to the Wages of the World. As you know, lifeguards are told to punch drowning people in the face repeatedly until the person lets go and allows themselves to be saved.

  703. Vlad Krandz December 31, 2011 at 4:07 pm #

    You may be a ghost to some, but you are real to me. Men’s Rights Advocates advise Men to avoid Western Women by “ghosting” – give them mere politeness when necessary, nothing more. Don’t look into their eyes – nothing but evil resides there. If one must give the pretence – look between their eyes and most wont be able to tell the difference.

  704. ront December 31, 2011 at 4:20 pm #

    Happy New Year!
    For those who have a tolerance or receptivity for it here’s something mystical.
    Man is always seeking for beauty, and yet he is unaware of the treasure of beauty that is hidden in his own heart. He strives after it throughout his whole life. It is as if he was in pursuit of the horizon: the further he proceeds, the further the horizon seems to have moved away. For there are two aims: the one is real, and the other false. That which is false is momentary, transitory, and unreliable – wealth, power, fame, and position are all snatched from one hand by the other. … Man wants something in life upon which he can rely; and this shows, whether he believes in a deity or not, that he is constantly seeking for God. He seeks for Him not knowing that he is seeking for God. Nevertheless, every soul is pursuing some reality, something to hold on to; trying to grasp something which will prove dependable, a beauty that cannot change and that one can always look upon as one’s own, a beauty that one feels will last forever. And where can one find it? Within one’s own heart. And it is the art of finding that beauty, of developing, improving, and spreading that beauty through life, allowing it to manifest before the inner and outer view, which one calls the art of the mystic.
    –hazrat inayat khan

  705. tucsonspur December 31, 2011 at 5:31 pm #

    The following post is in line with Jim’s title this week. Some here will consider it corny, some even an acciaccatura. Here they are, for those who have not read it or seen it lately, the closing lines of “A Christmas Carol”.
    “Scrooge was better than his word. He did it all, and infinitely more; and to Tiny Tim, who did NOT die, he was a second father. He became as good a friend, as good a master, and as good a man, as the good old city knew, or any other good old city, town, or borough, in the good old world. Some people laughed to see the alteration in him, but he let them laugh, and little heeded them; for he was wise enough to know that nothing ever happened on this globe, for good, at which some people did not have their fill of laughter in the outset; and knowing that such as these would be blind anyway, he thought it quite as well that they should wrinkle up their eyes in grins, as have the malady in less attractive forms. His own heart laughed: and that was quite enough for him.
    “He had no further intercourse with Spirits, but lived upon the Total Abstinence Principle, ever afterwards; and it was always said of him, that he knew how to keep Christmas well, if any man alive posessed the knowledge. May that be truly said of us, and of all of us! And so, as Tiny Tim observed, God Bless Us, Every One!”
    Keep the New Year well.

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  706. ozone December 31, 2011 at 5:35 pm #

    Nice thought, Ront.
    Call it what you want, no problem.
    …Happy New Year right back’at’cha! :o)

  707. whitehunter December 31, 2011 at 6:02 pm #

    Re: Dead baby pills. It sounds like Soylent Green meets Alice Cooper. Perhaps there is no need to read science fiction anymore.

  708. asoka. December 31, 2011 at 6:39 pm #

    I found it, ront, right where Hazrat Inayat Khan indicated. It made me drunk on the divine beauty of the universe.
    Happy 2012 to all!
    Asoka

  709. ront December 31, 2011 at 6:46 pm #

    Fiction it may be but the world is ready for the miraculous. This is such a hopeful message. Thanks for sharing it.
    As unlikely as it can seem, amazing changes do happen. Villains and heros play their roles and change as the Script unfolds in unexpected ways. Our Story never ends because it never really begins. It’s all imagination…

  710. Vlad Krandz December 31, 2011 at 6:52 pm #

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  711. ront December 31, 2011 at 7:12 pm #

    We could sing this song to one another.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmuswTEGF-U&feature=related
    The warmth of your love
    is like the warmth of the sun
    and this will be our year
    took a long time to come
    don’t let go of my hand
    now darkness has gone
    and this will be our year
    took a long time to come
    and I won’t forget
    the way you held me up when I was down
    and I won’t forget the way you said,
    “Darling I love you”
    You gave me faith to go on
    Now we’re there and we’ve only just begun
    This will be our year
    took a long time to come
    The warmth of your smile
    smile for me, little one
    and this will be our year
    took a long time to come
    You don’t have to worry
    all your worried days are gone
    this will be our year
    took a long time to come
    and I won’t forget
    the way you held me up when I was down
    and I won’t forget the way you said,
    “Darling I love you”
    You gave me faith to go on
    Now we’re there and we’ve only just begun
    and this will be our year
    took a long time to come
    Yeah we only just begun
    yeah this will be our year
    took a long time to come

  712. Ixnei December 31, 2011 at 8:24 pm #

    “Are you saying that Cheney didn’t need to give a stand down order because they used a missile?”
    *Props*!
    I ASS-U-ME you are a conspiracy freak, like me. I highly doubt a missile hit the Pentagon, yet it is curious how they managed to hit the very section of the pentagon that was:
    1. Just reinforced
    2. Held certain *RECORDS*.
    3. Was mostly evacuated (who didn’t they tell?)
    AWAKS GPS has been in operation for over 30 years. Cheney *DID* call stand-down orders. That fucking heartless bastard (no heartbeat, thx tech) was the one who, “made it all so”.
    So, no reason to be confused, unless you want to blow smoke up my @$$ (OOO LAA LAA!!!)!!!

  713. Pucker December 31, 2011 at 8:28 pm #

    Exactly! Just become a SPECTATOR…..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f0GStBCeUU&feature=related

  714. Ixnei December 31, 2011 at 8:29 pm #

    Let me spam this sh!t again, just in case you didn’t understand me.
    There was no way in *HELL* that the Pentagon was gunna get hit 1 hour (40 minutes?) after both twin towers got *DOGGED*. Total inside job – they instigated it, and LET IT HAPPEN.

  715. Pucker December 31, 2011 at 8:31 pm #

    Exactly!!!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvx6JwO63to&feature=related

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  716. Ixnei December 31, 2011 at 9:01 pm #

    The holographic universe!!! Best book I read, since Communion!!!

  717. Ixnei December 31, 2011 at 9:07 pm #

    Holographic Universe – Ayup, Michael Talbot is *DEAD* as well!!!

  718. AMR January 1, 2012 at 1:38 am #

    Thanks.
    You’re right about my age; I’m 29. I’m a lot more optimistic about the intelligence and manners of my generation than some on CFN because I know quite a few people in their twenties who are intellectually engaged, literate and well-mannered, but I certainly understand what prompts the handwringing about the damn kids these days. The idiots and other undesirables are almost always the ones making the noise.
    In fact, that applies pretty well to our Baby Boomer politicians, too. It may be just a coincidence, but come to think of it, Ron Paul, 75, is the only pre-Baby Boom candidate in the current GOP presidential field and also the only one who seems to be appealing to our better angels rather than trafficking hideous wedge issues.
    Your story from the Northeast is the first I’d heard the phrase “on the arm.” I haven’t spent much time in the Northeast, although I know some old-school Irish girls from white Kensington and an Irish girl from somewhere around Rhawnhurst whose dad seems to be a police commander (I’ve only hung out with her a few times, so I mostly pick up bits and pieces from her Facebook feed, which is more insightful than most). I’ve spent a lot more time in Center City and the Northwest, mainly East Falls and Manayunk.
    A few years ago some family friends had a brief standoff with the commander of the 39th District, a Captain Quinn if memory serves, over the police response to a nuisance bar in East Falls called the Four Horsemen. The bar was allegedly named for four of the 39th’s dirtiest cops, guys bad enough that they’d gone to prison, and it was notorious for employing off-duty 39th District beat cops as bouncers and skilled tradesmen for renovations. The Four Horsemen became such a chronic and serious nuisance, discharging rowdies in the middle of the night into an otherwise quiet residential neighborhood, catering to a litterbug clientele that left trash all over the streets, and in one case serving a guy who violently kicked parked cars in a drunken rage, that not only the PLCB but also Michael Nutter, Ed Rendell and Arlen Specter started breathing down Captain Quinn’s neck and making the brass put him on a shorter leash. The Northwest had more than its fair share of political heavyweights, so East Falls turned out to be the wrong part of town to attract the attention of the local grandees.
    Captain Quinn had our friends’ home phone number because the wife was one of the main liaisons from East Falls Town Watch to the PPD, so he decided to call our friends one night and let them know their place. When the husband answered, the captain launched into an abusive screed: “I’m getting heat from above, and I don’t like getting heat from above.” What he didn’t expect was the husband’s response: “Listen to me, I’m a lieutenant in the United States Army, and you do not talk to a lieutenant in the United States Army that way!” Our friend told me and my dad that he seemed to have the captain quaking in his boots.
    A cop damn well should be left quaking in his boots after doing that. That would be a good object lesson for the rest of the force; you never know who will turn out to have connections, or balls.

  719. AMR January 1, 2012 at 1:54 am #

    Some more quick anecdotes about the Four Horsemen: The lieutenant once told us that it had offered an all-night $20 open bar special. This was a place that brought in van loads of Villanova students, so its customers knew how to get their drunk on. The lieutenant couldn’t believe the $20 offer, so he went inside and asked the owner if he had read it right. The owner said that he had: $20, unlimited beer, unlimited liquor, all night long. The lieutenant was dumbfounded by this offer, but he saw a huge silver lining: “I think that $20 all-you-can-drink night shut them down for a while. Jesus, they must have been hurting after that….So, no, they won’t be doing that again!”
    By contrast, Facebook chatter from my Philadelphians has it that the trendy places in Manayunk and Old City (every one of them grossly overrated in my experience) are charging $40 covers at a minimum for the New Year’s bash this year. I wish that my Philadelphians were still having evening-long house parties like they did back when more of them were underage. These days they usually do at most an hour or two of pregaming at someone’s house. I find it obscene to be imposed upon to pay admission to some seedy meat market where the noise makes it impossible to carry on a conversation.

  720. AMR January 1, 2012 at 2:16 am #

    Well said.
    One of the Poles I worked with at Hersheypark proudly told me a secondhand anecdote that he’d heard from a friend about his visit to Russia. The story was that after his friend had paid the toilet babushka his fare, she handed him a roll of toilet paper and he took some. After a few measly sheets, she barked, “that’s enough!”
    Of course, you can always count on the Poles for a story like that about Russia, whether it’s true or not. A woman whose husband had been a career foreign service officer told me that during the Cold War the Poles always told the wittiest anecdotes in the Eastern Bloc about Brezhnev and company.
    American anecdotes about glass-bottomed locomotives and screen-door submarines notwithstanding, Poland has a longstanding tradition of excellence in aviation. It had some of the best military pilots in the Eastern Bloc (alas for the Soviets, their sympathies were suspect), and LOT was pretty much the first former Eastern Bloc air carrier to ditch its fleet of Soviet fuel-to-noise converters for American planes. The problem with LOT is that although it has world-champion acrobats among its pilots and a fleet of well-maintained, fetch-ass 767s with more legroom than some airlines, you still have to put up with the food. The time I flew on LOT from Warsaw to Chicago, the appetizer was a flavorless pork loin in aspic, followed by a main course of flavorless pork loin heated up with some mashed potatoes. I think they may have chopped some of the pork into something purporting to be a salad, too, but that may be a recovered memory.
    In any event, yuck. The experience went to show that we Yanks get our Polish jokes all wrong; it never occurs to us to critique the food.

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  721. AMR January 1, 2012 at 2:31 am #

    They almost had cell phones but no sewers in Brooklyn. One account that I read claimed that New York City didn’t start treating all its sewage until 1996, with some of the last holdouts fronting the Gowanus Canal. (Where else? After all, you can’t spell “Gowanus” without “anus.” Amusing nomenclature aside, the Gowanus Canal has always been the asshole of Brooklyn, if not of the whole city.) Then, a month or two ago, I read an article in the New York Times claiming that untreated sewage is still discharged in Willets Point, Queens. The Mets, and Citibank, have a new ballpark there, but sewers for the chop shop district? Eh. Maybe someday.
    We aren’t as First World as we think. But fear not, New York, Lady Gaga helped Mayor Bloomberg ring in the new year. There’s nothing like a pretty woman who makes herself look ugly by covering her face with various monstrosities, not to mention Ce Lo Green in a white T-shirt and a black fur coat, to guarantee an auspicious 2012.
    God bless America!

  722. ak January 1, 2012 at 4:03 am #

    Happy New Year 2012, everybody!
    Here’s a short video by the Asylum Street Spankers, called “Stick a Magnetic Ribbon on Your SUV” (4:22m)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmsOIjzQ1V8
    Enjoy 😉
    -AK

  723. Ixnei January 1, 2012 at 4:47 am #

    WoW! All the douche-bag neighbors in my hood were lighting off illegal fireworks at midnite here, celebrating the oncoming year (ironic – illegal ‘works to celebrate patriot act/unanimous senate votes for bill 1867 [indefinite detention for US citizens]). Earlier today, around 3PM, some moron was lighting off dynamite sticks (something bigger than M-50’s), about 6 different times (not sure why he/they stopped).
    Time to celebrate, I ‘spose. Definitely going to be a year to remember. Lots of book-cooking coming, to be sure – and not only in corporate accounting!!! Let’s see how long they can keep this corpse of a global economy alive. Hopefully longer than the soon-to-be-a-corpse global ecology! Won’t it be a reckoning of silence, when even crickets no longer chirp (as there are no longer crickets)?
    When was the last time you saw a frog? Mine was 2 years ago, emerald green (tree) frog in my front yard, when I composted an amanita muscaria mushroom in my garden. I remember as a child, 35 years ago, seeing frogs swarming everywhere, all spring/summer/fall. Hell, even as a teen/adult, I saw frogs all the time. For the past 25 years tho, virtually no frogs to be seen anywhere…

  724. Ixnei January 1, 2012 at 4:54 am #

    “Religion, I believe, was designed for just that purpose.”
    Brilliant post! I couldn’t have done better, or LOL’d more!

  725. Ixnei January 1, 2012 at 5:33 am #

    New Years 2011 – Holi-Holi-Day!!! (RIP Bobby [12/30/2010])
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJkrA6DtDgQ

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  726. Alexandra January 1, 2012 at 7:56 am #

    Krandz… think more, rant less darling…
    Though I see you’re once more ensconced here at the coalface of your day job, but I still insist with my previous New Year advice to you. Go out into the fresh air, maybe procure a dog *(your not the pussy feline type) and go get a life…
    Two weeks ago I spent a whole day chain-sawing logs up, to easier burn size chunks, for an elderly couple I know whom rely on a wood-burner for there main winter heat. The guy (Charlie) has terminal stage prostrate cancer, and his wife (Lavender) is to frail now in her late 70s to do too much else. As the fr#ck#n saw was uber-temperamental, due to residing in a Devon barn that’s cold/damp, I still carry a deep bruise slowly working its way out now on my right knee which I used to counterbalance the all to mnay frequent re start-ups… and yes I did take the plug out twice to clean it!!
    (I tell you this not to glean any merit at all, more to prove to you how full of negative race/class bile/b#llsh#t you are)
    I sail yachts for a whole host of reasons, one of the main rewards being that the hard physical winch graft gets you real jenny/main performance gains. Getting something 50′ long to hit 10knts plus from wind alone, and hull bite in is a kick I never tire of.
    Though tis also true due to my particular genetics I have direct links back to the Tascher de La Pagerie family over there in the French Caribbean, a zone I’ll go play in this coming season. Let them eat cake’ is not a crass phrase I’d personally endorse, though we have a history of marrying/mistressing it with attractive sharp below rank types, so hold that thought.
    During WWII, many impoverished people did nicely survive through due to personal ingenuity… so if TSHTF once more, I dare say many intelligent folk will thrive despite adversity again, and surely this strategy fits nicely with your genes succeeding through meritocracy philosophy? That is a topic I would to some degree wholeheartedly agree with, RHIP not withstanding.
    Now kneel, grovel, and whimper and kiss my feet and beg forgiveness you pathetic little man… and I dare say we both know at a more reptilian level you really, really want to…
    H A P P Y N E W Y E A R A L L ! !
    *PS: You could of course volunteer for the USN, I dare say they’ll have a lot of vacancies soon in the MENA region when they get there arses kicked over there when the action kicks off in the Strait, and China shows how its investment in ships pays off. But fret not our RN will be out there too in the thick of it to pick up the pieces, so keep a weather eye to the horizon, and there we’ll be…

  727. lbendet January 1, 2012 at 8:14 am #

    Happy New Year CFNers
    Well the yearly mercury bash is on, starting with a Japanese Omakase dinner with sake to the novas and other fish for breakfast. Although the fish is from all over and happily the east coast I’m sure there was a bit of fissile material, with love from Fukushima Daiichi.
    _____________________
    Don’t know whether anyone caught this on the news last evening, but it seems that there was an earthquake at 4.0 magnitude around Youngstown, Oh. Funny how they had one around XMAS and then again yesterday.
    from ABC News channel 5:
    [The area experienced a series of minor quakes in 2011, though residents said Saturday’s appeared to be stronger than others. Many of the quakes were near an injection well used to dispose of brine water that’s a byproduct of oil and gas drilling.
    Its owner agreed this week to stop injecting brine into the earth while the quakes are investigated.
    WEWS NewsChannel 5’s newsroom has received numerous phone calls and tip emails reporting the earthquake being felt as far west as Norwalk, Ohio and as far north as Ontario, Canada.
    Read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/usgs-confirms-a-40-magnitude-earthquake-near-youngstown-ohio#ixzz1iD91CzM3%5D
    You think they might reconsider fracking, or are they going to plow ahead come hell or highwater?
    So speaking of Fukushima, I also heard on the news that Taiwan is building Nuc power plants by GE on geological faults near the coast–They are reviewing the matter in cooperation with China that will take 2 years in a survey.
    Can’t imagine why common sense wouldn’t take over.
    [“We have to wait for the completion of all these surveys to be able to work out a strategy on dealing with multiple disasters such as the combination of an earthquake and tsunami,” Tsai said.]
    Oh they really want to do this and just need to figure out what will happen if the unthinkable happens.
    Does lightning ever strike twice?

  728. Ixnei January 1, 2012 at 8:17 am #

    T minus 10…

  729. Ixnei January 1, 2012 at 8:21 am #

    YUMMY!!! Nuclear fish from Fukushima/Japan – I’m *GRUBBIN*!!!
    WoW, only 2 rads?!? Haha
    C wut I did there?

  730. Alexandra January 1, 2012 at 9:09 am #

    @ lbendet/Ixnei
    I watched something yesterday re Japan:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNVR8dtbQ-Q
    You guys might find it also interesting, btw fracking does cause Quakes for sure, here too in Blighty…
    http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-07/europe/30368594_1_shale-gas-fracking-process-tremors
    But all’s fair when in pursuit of plasma screen/pc/ipads & SUVs toyz and sod the consequences, tis the necromancer way… lol
    A xx

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  731. Hancock1863 January 1, 2012 at 9:59 am #

    Just for the record, I am not refrring to this generationally.
    This malady cuts across generational lines almost completely, albeit in different ways. It’s difficult to generalize sometimes, when talking about such large groups of people with so many exceptions, but in mass psychology, outliers just sort of factor out, it seems.
    Your generation, my generation, our parents generations, all seem taken in by the spell of how the hologram, as Joe Bageant used to call it, just sort of softly closes in all around one, and no light of truth not filtered can reach one.
    There are, undoubtely, people who lived in WWII, who are cheering on all the civil liberties destruction that they once fought against.
    All in a single human lifespan – nearly 100% full circle and role-reversal.
    But my primary point is I am not speaking in any way about any of what I say, in a “these kids today” kind of sense.
    Not at all. These issues cut through generations like they were room temp sticks of butter.
    (hey, it’s the holday season and my mind is on fatty, delicious, oil-fueled holiday foods ;p )
    Happy New Year, everyone!

  732. ozone January 1, 2012 at 10:15 am #

    “You think they might reconsider fracking, or are they going to plow ahead come hell or highwater?” -LB
    LB,
    I’ll give you 3 guesses, and the first 2 don’t count. ;o)
    Even Helen Highwater can’t stop this bandwagon.
    It’s the next market-pumping investment bubble, so it will go forward, valid protests notwithstanding.
    It will continue until the clueless rubes [finally] wake up to the distinctly NEGATIVE EROEI ratio. But that won’t be for a long time (until the damage is done), and the market mania will ensure momentum right up to the *pop*. It’s tulip time; git yer free money!
    Plus, if they keep the leases juicy enough, folks aren’t going to give a shit if it poisons their land and aquifer, thinking that they’ll have enough do-re-mi to ship out and haul away. A devil’s bargain, to be sure. It’s gonna get ugly and I certainly worry for your particular [north-lying] aquifer and water supply. Some intrepid souls might want to really “do something” in this regard, and it’s going to be tough, in that the fuggin’ frackers have Da Law on their side. (We’ll leave it to others to consider why that might be.)
    (BTW, 40,000 new “laws” go into effect today! Woo-Hoo, ain’t we lucky?)

  733. ozone January 1, 2012 at 10:25 am #

    AK,
    Thanks for the ‘Spankers.
    Sets the tone for the year. We definitely need more subversive ribaldry; it’s good for the guts!
    ;o)

  734. ozone January 1, 2012 at 10:29 am #

    Welcome 2012 (Nemesis or not)!
    May your guesses be good and your intentions be honorable and philanthropic…

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  736. lbendet January 1, 2012 at 11:49 am #

    2012 greeted Japan with yet another earthquake:
    http://www.bigislandnewscenter.com/

  737. lbendet January 1, 2012 at 11:55 am #

    Ozone,
    I would call this whole system a Faustian deal.
    Alexandra,
    Thanks for the link to the Japan anti nuke movement.

  738. metuselah January 1, 2012 at 12:47 pm #

    WSP7,
    Why? Because I very much agree with Eric Phelps’ research and assessment, and the research and assessment of many others like him.
    The Vatican and the Jesuit order are the nerve center of almost all that is going on in the world. They control the banks, they control the media, they control the corporations, they control governments via the intelligence services of those countries. They control the political dialectic and the flow of world history. And they are trying to steer us back to the dark ages.

  739. metuselah January 1, 2012 at 12:53 pm #

    +++
    Eric Phelps – Vatican Assassins
    http://goo.gl/4BWsR
    +++

  740. progress2conserve January 1, 2012 at 1:19 pm #

    “….rooting for the Monster shows them for what they are: thugs of the Matriarchy. Prog is more discrete as he sits on an ever sharpening picket fence.” -vlad the first*-
    That’s a couple of interesting ideas, Vlad. I wouldn’t to so far as to say that I’m ROOTING for matriarchy. But, there are some evident problems with extreme patriarchy, for the modern world.
    So, yeah, I think we’d be well served if the balance shifted toward matriarchy, a little bit more.
    As far as sitting on a fence – as I think about it sitting on a fence, then building a comfortable platform on that fence – is going to be the only way for US civilization to have a chance of remaining intact – moving forward.
    Between asoka.., OWS, and the National Chamber of Commerce, all of whom say “legalize them all and let more of them in” – – and your “deputize 100,000 white men to kick them all out”
    Well, between those two IMPOSSIBLE positions is common sense, and a way forward for the US. You are forcing your thinking into a “false duality.” (and again, John Michael Greer has made some GOOD posts on false dualities in the past two months)
    It doesn’t matter if ONE person thinks in dualities. Your choice leads to a destroyed United States, and to a White Nation in the redoubts of Idaho, which seems to be your goal, in the first place.
    Asoka.’s choice led him to abandon the US that his “false duality,” on immigration – has helped to destroy. Too bad for him, that an overgrown US economy may destroy world ecosystems, and make human life tenuous, even in Costa Rica.
    But, moving beyond individual choices – – when an entire country, ostensibly a Representative Democracy – makes all its BIG political choices based on “false dualities,” problems are inevitable – and that is what we are doing, with the Left/Right/Dem/Repub/TEA/OWS debacle that continues to unfold in front of us.
    then we get today’s slow, mouldering decay – into a Nation where leadership is for sale to the highest bidder, and to the noisiest coalition.
    *Vald the first? What happened to the other two Vlads, do you suppose? My best guess, still, is that at least one of them was Absalom/JohnnyRocket – glad they seem to be gone, though. One Vlad is plenty. 😉

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  741. ABSALOM January 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm #

    Some 2012 economic predictions from IHS Chief Economist, Nariman Behravesh:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwFBO_M4BAw
    I’m interested to know what some here think about these. Too tame? I guess we’ll hear from JHK tomorrow what the bones for 2012 foretell.
    ABSALOM

  742. metuselah January 1, 2012 at 2:29 pm #

    Re: IHS 2012 Predictions
    1/ wrong
    2/ correct
    3/ wrong
    4/ wrong
    5/ wrong
    6/ correct
    7/ not sure, possibly correct
    8/ not sure, possibly correct
    9/ wrong
    10/ correct

  743. ABSALOM January 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm #

    Ha ha, you’re growin’ on me, Met. I suspected at least someone here would feel they were too tame. Came to my mind as well. Care to elaborate?
    HaPPY nEw yEaR! Hope the hangover isn’t to ruff.
    ABSALOM

  744. metuselah January 1, 2012 at 2:37 pm #

    Marc Faber Predictions for 2012:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq2d8blTrxw&feature=share

  745. metuselah January 1, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    My basic thesis is one of massive credit deflation. Once you understand and accept this thesis, my answers become self-explanatory. There will be a deflationary credit collapse, collapse in global trade, global trade wars, possibly followed by real wars, followed by hyperinflation/collapse of currencies.

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  746. ABSALOM January 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm #

    Hello again, all. Here’s another vid from RT Today featuring Chris Martenson. I’ve been paying attention to him and a select group for a few weeks now, thanks to this site, and it looks like DEFLATIONARY slides are the likely phenomena for 2012. Some will already have seen this, but here it goes:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=534jxraCFZ4&feature=relmfu
    ABSALOM

  747. metuselah January 1, 2012 at 2:49 pm #

    A thesis, which btw, as you all know, our host JHK is in total agreement with.

  748. Vlad Krandz January 1, 2012 at 2:50 pm #

    I suggest you study Men’s Right – many men have been ruined by the Matriarchy and their gun thugs. I mean the Affirmative Action is bad enough, but getting kicked out of their own homes, impoverished, and then slandered with the charge of pedophilia so they can’t see their kids anymore? You’ve been lucky – many of your generation have not been. Fewer and fewer men are willing to take the chance on a woman’s whims – more to the point, why should we? So don’t be complacent because you’ve been lucky and/or chose well. Have some compassion for you own sex and not just the endlessly hyped “women and children”.
    Women are NOT as wise as Men in general. They’re practical – the old Norse and Germans advised men to consult with them on occasion to get a different viewpoint. Often women can see a simple, practical solution. But governing? Ruling? Most women as well as men prefer to work for men – so much less drama, games, and resentment. The Women who are fit to govern are those few who are most like men.
    Yes I should be King Vald the First. You can be one of my Ministers – who must always stand on my left side. I would seldom look to my left but almost always to my Ministers who stand on my right. The world must be re-balanced. Study the character of Alexandra to know the cruelty that most women bring to power.
    Just read last night: a million or so Mexicans were deported during the 30’s. And of course operation weback in the 50’s did the same. When we don’t need them we get rid of them. And all this was without computer technology and hi tech surveillance. You act like were stuck with them, can’t get rid of them, wouldn’t be able to get rid of them even if we decided too etc. All Counsels of Defeat. We’ve done it before – back when we were a Nation. We’re sick now and everything seems impossible to a sick man. But sometimes the sick have to make an effort to get well even though it’s hard and they just want to lay down and suffer. Get to the doctor, the pharmacy, the hospital and all will get easier. That’s our position.
    It’s not going to happen? Then we’re finished. They will just keep coming here if those already here are not kicked out. Don’t believe (and you do) the lies about brutality. Most would deport themselves once the incentives that brought them here dried up. The deputies would only be a clean up operation at the end of an everify, draconian fines against businesses caught hiring them, etc campaign.

  749. ABSALOM January 1, 2012 at 2:54 pm #

    Thanks, Met. I caught the Faber vid the other night. I’ve noticed a lot of economists shifting to cries of deflation over inflation. We’ll see soon enough, I suppose.
    At this point, I’ve realized there’s not a bunch of new information out there. 2012, another year of magical and whimsical moves by central banks. Oh muh gooness!

  750. ABSALOM January 1, 2012 at 2:59 pm #

    Met, so by massive credit deflation do you mean default by way of debt forgiveness, or? I know, way too optimistic.
    Unless your meaning that banks will stop lending and a bank holiday will ensue? I think Celente is predicting this too.

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  751. Vlad Krandz January 1, 2012 at 3:03 pm #

    Ah social darwinism! I commend you – few Liberals are so honest. But firstly, don’t include me in that. Fascists believe in welfare for the sick, the poor and the old. We don’t believe in welfare and open borders. You do and you prefer the coloreds to your own people – which makes you people monsters as well as hypocrites.
    Secondly, don’t expect all poor Whites to die quietly. Strength is in numbers and as Nietzsche said, the slave is only noble when he rebels. So as a Nietzschean, you have no cause to complain when the mob comes to your house and burns you out. Nor when your yacht get stolen. Or if you manage to escape, some pirates catch you and the Pirate Chief likes to “feminize” mouthy, masculine “Ripley” types. Not my thing, but life is power and more power to him, right?
    It’s going to be a man’s world again, drear – and you better find yourself a Captain and learn to be a good first mate. But who would have you? Who would have you? I mean you SMV (sexual market value) and MVM (marriage market value) aren’t exactly stellar anymore – if they ever were.

  752. Vlad Krandz January 1, 2012 at 3:05 pm #

    People should have some cash hidden at home. The fine print of the FDIC says that banks can close for 60 days.

  753. metuselah January 1, 2012 at 3:10 pm #

    Seems to me we’ve climbed as high up the tree as we could. There’s little to no faith left in the system. I suggest to look at your federal reserve notes and read what they say. Do you believe or trust in god? Which is another way of saying, do you believe or trust in any of these thieves. I don’t.

  754. Vlad Krandz January 1, 2012 at 3:12 pm #

    For all you OWSer groupies:
    http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=10781

  755. progress2conserve January 1, 2012 at 3:23 pm #

    “Matriarchy and their gun thugs”
    -vlad-
    Who are the “gun thugs,” Vlad? The po-po?
    men…”kicked out of their own homes, impoverished, and then slandered with the charge of pedophilia..”
    -vlad-
    One this question, Vlad, you’re demonstrating with great clarity that you’re spending far too much time on the wrong sorts of “men’s rights” websites.
    Believe me, I know a bunch of divorced men – a variety of ages and all sorts of divorce circumstances. I’ve seen some pretty nasty divorces where, “She got the gold mine, and I got the shaft,” was definitely operational.
    But then I’ve seen several where the man got custody of the kids, and kept the house. That that’s unusual – speaks mostly to child rearing tendencies and abilities. For example, if my wife and I had split while the kids were in the house there is no way on God’s green Earth that a thinking judge would have given me full custody.
    And I would not have asked for it either.
    This has to vary a lot by state, Vlad. Georgia must be more sensitive to men’s rights than other states, maybe.
    One last piece of advice – that transcends ALL of the above. Be careful who you date – and be sure to marry the right woman. If you get that right, the rest of this is moot, for you as an individual.

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  756. Vlad Krandz January 1, 2012 at 3:26 pm #

    Full honors for Sergio Ramelli – beaten to death by Communists after a long persecution at home and at work. Fare thee well, brother.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxUY55hUnGM&feature=youtu.be

  757. Vlad Krandz January 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm #

    Why should the contract breaker get anything? Sure people should have the right to divorce at any time – but she (70%+) should have to move out and get a job, not get to be a vampire poisoning everone’s life. If she is worthy, she should get partial custody or visitation rights.
    Too harsh? Then change marriage completely – no more “sharing of assets” since it probably wont last. That only made sense when marriage was forever. Power corrupts, absolute absolutely. The current situation is too much temptation for the weaker vessels.

  758. Vlad Krandz January 1, 2012 at 3:38 pm #

    Did you get to watch any of the Christmas Carols on TV? As Scrooge learned, No Man is an Island. Or as the poet said, “Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee”.
    I am injured everytime my brothers are injured. Insulted when they are. Outraged when they are. That we have forgotten all this is why we are becoming slaves you see. Sergio knew the Truth – which is why he was singled out for torment and death. Individual – that’s just what they want you to feel and think.

  759. tucsonspur January 1, 2012 at 3:46 pm #

    “Fiction it maybe…. It’s all imagination”
    Thanks ront. There are deep truths in some fiction
    and soon the miraculous may be the only thing to save us.
    Your mention of imagination brought to mind the old song, “Just my imagination,runnin’ away with me….” and also this brilliant gem from WS:
    “Lovers and madmen have such seething brains,
    Such shaping fantasies that apprehend
    More than cool reason ever comprehends.
    The lunatic, the lover and the poet
    Are of imagination all compact…
    The poet’s eye, in a fine frenzy rolling,
    Doth glance from heaven to earth, from earth to heaven;
    And as imagination bodies forth
    The form of things unknown, the poet’s pen
    Turns them to shapes and gives to airy nothing
    A local habitation and a name.”

  760. progress2conserve January 1, 2012 at 3:47 pm #

    I was only pointing out that your 100,000 white male deputies is an extreme idea and a bad idea. Insisting on something extreme like that will drive people away from even CONSIDERING whatever good ideas you present.
    And you do present some good ideas. That people on CFN hate on you so much mostly demonstrates two things:
    1. The leftward tilt of CFN
    2. The level of unnecessary hate and fear that you, personally, project onto GROUPS of people.
    (Jews, blacks, browns, gays, abortionists, progressives, liberals, yougettheidea.)
    Here’s a good idea of yours, VK:
    “Most would deport themselves once the incentives that brought them here dried up.” -vlad-
    That is observable, EASILY, by driving around Georgia. Where there were once huge hordes of day laborers, who would practically jump into the back of your truck, ready to go to work, if you stopped at a red light – now there are almost none.
    Some of that is the collapse of the development/real estate industries – in other words the work dried up.
    But Georgia is implementing mandatory E-Verify, starting today actually, and it is said that a lot of the illegals left in advance of this. Some went home back to Mexico and points south.
    That’s what I would have done, in their place.
    Others have gone into those “sanctuary cities” and areas with less local immigration enforcement and use of 287g. (by the way, “food ROTTING IN THE FIELDS!!!,” was way overhyped. Didn’t happen, not from any authentic sources that I heard or spoke to personally)
    Hope that influx of undocumented migrants, without job skills or means of support – works out for those places that want to be “sanctuaries.” But I don’t see how it can, not without MASSIVE federal and local social services spending. And, certainly not in an economy that is trending down, with no bottom in sight.
    ===============================
    Here’s a legitimate question for asoka..
    The US is offering plenty of, for example, H2A visas for agriculture to residents of Mexico, who are still IN Mexico.
    Is there any mechanism whereby a person already in the US illegally, can obtain one of those visas – without having to go back home, first?
    It’s a serious question. Maybe I can help somebody around here who’s illegal – become legal. I’d like to do that, if I could.
    Land of opportunity.
    Nation of laws and not men.
    And all that, you know?

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  761. San Jose Mom 51 January 1, 2012 at 4:27 pm #

    Do you want some cheese with your whine?
    This year my little street has turned into Wysteria Lane. Two divorces. In both cases it’s the man who left (brains below the belt). In both cases, the women make more money than the man. Also, both women had considerable 401K savings that they will split. The biggest jerk is an ex-marine who wants zero custody of their child and will probably end up getting alimony from her.

  762. rippedthunder January 1, 2012 at 6:59 pm #

    Talk to me, talk to me
    ??Are you feelin’ alright?
    Yoe, H7M1SG1, Lose the f- uped characters and follow your own advice!
    Dave M and Traffic were great.

  763. rippedthunder January 1, 2012 at 7:00 pm #

    sorry, forgot the link ;0)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJcIjG9N1Qs

  764. rippedthunder January 1, 2012 at 7:15 pm #

    Vlad the white man and black man can coexsist, one of the best paramedics on my department as far as I am concerned is a black dude. So yea we can be cool together. Believe me I have seen both sides of the black and white TV. Yes you are right about more black crime. The black dudes are beat down by the cops, who are mostly white. My observation is in my own small microsphere. Poverty breeds crime as it is the only way out for many. We lock -up way too many peeps in this country for really stupid shit. I know. I have been there with my family.

  765. progress2conserve January 1, 2012 at 8:05 pm #

    “We lock -up way too many peeps in this country for really stupid shit.”
    -Ripped Thunder-
    No joke, RT. If I was black, I’d be really paranoid about it, too. Why is powder cocaine, sniffed up the noses of rich white folks in the suburbs and big cities – treated with less legal severity than is crack cocaine, which is power cocaine mixed with baking soda.
    http://www.drugpolicy.org/facts/drug-facts/cocaine-and-crack-facts
    Seriously, is baking soda a particularly dangerous substance?
    Why are drugs illegal, anyway?
    If you want to get high, get high – just stay off the roads and out of the workforce, until you come down. Stupid PTB.
    Ron Paul makes sense on Fed. drug policy.
    He’s got my vote.

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  766. Vlad Krandz January 1, 2012 at 8:58 pm #

    Individuals can get along – as I often have with individual Blacks. But you can’t argue from cool individuals to groups that are definitely not cool. And it’s fine to make your own observations – but you can’t base your views on only those. But that Blacks are more dangerous is obvious to anyone – AND backed up by statistics. Invalidating people’s commonsense about Black Crime is a full time job in the Mainstream Media.
    I would de-criminalize alot of drugs. But ultimately, we need more jobs and more unbroken families. One of the best predictors of criminality is an absent father – usually kicked out by cupcake.

  767. mika. January 1, 2012 at 8:58 pm #

    Happy New Year to one and all!
    As the Chinese say, 2012 will be an interesting year 🙂

  768. Vlad Krandz January 1, 2012 at 9:02 pm #

    That doesn’t change the FACT that women end most marriages. A woman wrote a book about it – after about 6 years, her husband couldn’t do anything right. Unlike many, she realized that it was her that had changed, not him. Nature was telling her it was time to trade up. She fought herself and won. Now that is what I call a Woman.

  769. Vlad Krandz January 1, 2012 at 10:01 pm #

    Kamp is the lie that tells the Truth.

  770. Buck Stud January 1, 2012 at 10:14 pm #

    It’s in your nature to vilify. And yet, maybe, if we build a memorial to those who betray us we can cut them loose…for good.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS5qRG_no-I&feature=related

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  771. asoka. January 1, 2012 at 10:41 pm #

    ProCon says Ron Paul makes sense on drug policy. ProCon says he will vote for Ron Paul.
    Ron Paul is a racist, so it does not surprise me that he has Procon’s vote.
    ===================
    Today (Sunday, Jan. 1, 2012) Ron Paul criticized the Civil Rights Act saying it “undermines liberty”
    This is a subtly expressed racist sentiment, disguised by an appeal to “liberty” i.e. the liberty to refuse people services, housing, education, employment, etc. based on skin color.
    Although Paul was not around to weigh in on the Civil Rights Act at the time it was enacted, he had the chance to cast a symbolic vote against it in 2004, when the House of Representatives took up a resolution “recognizing and honoring the 40th anniversary of congressional passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.”
    Paul was the only member who voted “no” on the Civil Rights Act.
    I guess if you already have your white privilege you don’t much care about Ron Paul’s anti-civil rights stance. It scares the shit out of me.
    Paul thinks that today’s race problems result from the war on drugs, the flawed U.S. court system and the military. Ridiculous.
    The military? The military integrated the races in the services decades ago.
    Ron Paul does not have my vote. I like the Civil Rights Act because it repealed the notorious Jim Crow laws; forced schools, bathrooms and buses to desegregate; and banned employment discrimination. It was a law that made a frontal attack on racism.
    Ron Paul opposes the Civil Rights Act. I oppose Ron Paul.

  772. ak January 1, 2012 at 10:52 pm #

    Asoka,
    You’re constantly striving to besmirch the only principled man among the Republican contenders, and I wonder why?
    I hear the head of the NAACP supports Dr Paul. Perhaps he knows him personally.

  773. Buck Stud January 1, 2012 at 11:01 pm #

    “Paul thinks that today’s race problems result from the war on drugs, the flawed U.S. court system and the military. Ridiculous.”
    No, not ridiculous. Asoka, the war on drugs has been a disaster for African-Americans, would you not agree?
    Paul is an absolutist- a libertarian absolutist. In a sense, you decontextulize his ideology when focusing on one solitary issue. In fact, a person could vote for Paul and not be sanctioning racism. For example, Paul would have no chance of reimplementing Jim Crow; but he might chance to thwart another unnecessary war. I call that subordinating issues when entering the voting booth. I’m sorry, but racial legislation and abortion, etc are simply not on the top of the list at this particular juncture. Voters need to wise up and display a little selective maturity.

  774. asoka. January 1, 2012 at 11:01 pm #

    I hear the head of the NAACP supports Dr Paul.
    -============
    You heard wrong. The head of the Austin, Texas branch of the NAACP supports Ron Paul, not the head of the NAACP nationally.
    Here is who supports Ron Paul: violent extremists and hate groups and right-wing militants and anti-Semites.
    For example, Don Black, director of the white nationalist Web site Stormfront, said in an interview that several dozen of his members were volunteering for Mr. Paul’s presidential campaign, and a site forum titled “Why is Ron Paul such a favorite here?” has no fewer than 24 pages of comments. “I understand he wins many fans because his monetary policy would hurt Jews”
    Far-right groups like the Militia of Montana say they are rooting for Mr. Paul as a stalwart against government tyranny.
    I do not want to ally myself with those folks.

  775. Buck Stud January 1, 2012 at 11:05 pm #

    And speaking of great “American Culture” who better than Joan Baez to sing “Joe Hill”:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f2J4ceCikI&feature=related

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  776. asoka. January 1, 2012 at 11:14 pm #

    In a sense, you decontextulize his ideology when focusing on one solitary issue.
    ================
    This is misleading Buck Stud. I have raised a multitude of objections to Ron Paul. I have not focused on “one solitary issue” and I have not “decontextualized” Ron Paul.
    The more you look at his entire historical voting record on a host of issues, the more you realize he would be a disaster for this country.
    And I am not an absolutist like Paul. I support some of Ron Paul’s positions on foreign policy. I am not knee-jerk anti-Paul. I just think he is a pseudo-libertarian On many domestic issues, including abortion, homosexual marriage, and civil rights legislation, Ron Paul is no libertarian. On economic issues he is just plain wrong. On other issues he is neurotic, narrow-minded, and paranoid. Paul is more than willing to have big government impose Paul’s values on the entire population.
    I have raised multitudes of issues with Ron Paul and I have cited his non-absolutist and contradictory historic voting record on his opposition to children’s health care, Medicare, Social Security, etc. while accepting socialized government health care for himself for decades. I have not focused on a solitary issue. I have pointed out Paul’s lack of consistency with libertarian principles in his own life, based on his own voting record which he can not run from.

  777. Buck Stud January 1, 2012 at 11:26 pm #

    Ok Asoka, I apologize for pigeon-holing this particular post/critique. And now that you mentioned it I do recall your other criticisms.

  778. asoka. January 1, 2012 at 11:31 pm #

    CORRECTION
    I have pointed out Paul’s lack of consistency with libertarian principles in his own life, based on his own voting record which HE CAN NOT DENY, SINCE HE VOTES WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN PARTY 77% OF THE TIME. LIBERTARIAN? NOT.
    RON PAUL IS A CHRISTIAN, RACIST, REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN WHO HAS BEEN ON THE PUBLIC DOLE FOR DECADES. HE DOES NOT ATTRACT SUPPORT FROM RACIST HATE GROUPS, WHITE NATIONALISTS, ANTI-SEMITES, ETC. BY ACCIDENT. HIS IDEOLOGY IS FULL OF HATE AND THEY RECOGNIZE THAT.

  779. progress2conserve January 1, 2012 at 11:36 pm #

    Looks like we will march with Obama or Romney toward some more wars and worse, then.
    Asoka. wills it to be so.
    From Costa Rica.
    Amazing.

  780. asoka. January 1, 2012 at 11:40 pm #

    Apology accepted.
    And I thank you for the opportunity to point out that I am not knee-jerk anti-Ron Paul.
    I support Ron Paul’s positions on closing down military bases, reducing the size of the military, and not getting involved in trillion-dollar wars that only benefit the defense contractors and create more hatred of the USA, making the USA less safe.
    Ron Paul is attractive to white nationalist groups because of Paul’s aggressive position on securing our borders and his criticism of affirmative action.
    And I agree with you that the “war on drugs” has been used as a tool against African-Americans. Like Dick Gregory told me back in the 1970s: “How is it the nine-year old can find the pusher man on the street corner, but the police cannot?”

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  781. Buck Stud January 1, 2012 at 11:41 pm #

    Wow Asoka, upper case caps and all, you’re really trying to make a point. But you never admitted that Paul is right on the futility of the “War On Drugs’ and the disastrous results for n African-Americans and others.
    Will you recant your “ridiculous” condemnation of Paul and admit he was right on this issue? Especially since you’re not “knee-jerk anti-Paul”?

  782. Buck Stud January 1, 2012 at 11:43 pm #

    never mind, lol

  783. Buck Stud January 1, 2012 at 11:51 pm #

    Prog,
    I agree with you about Obama and Rommney. But does it matter whether Asoka is leveling his critiques from Costa Rica? As I recall you posted a link to Fred Reed who resides in Mexico if memory serves? And Joe Bageant was another ex-pat writing some very astute observations of the U.S.

  784. asoka. January 1, 2012 at 11:52 pm #

    I also agree with Ron Paul’s position on torture, which he explained in one of the November 2011 debates, declaring that “water boarding is torture” and “torture is illegal” by both USA and international laws.
    Asoka and Ron Paul are in 100% agreement in condemning water-boarding as illegal and a form of torture. Asoka and Ron Paul both appeal to international law and national law against torture.
    Dick Cheney and George W. Bush never had the guts to undergo water-boarding. But Christopher Hitchens did, and based on his own experience, classified it as torture. (Hitchens was an Iraq war supporter, not a pacifist.)

  785. asoka. January 2, 2012 at 12:00 am #

    Hey, Procon, it is one planet.
    And the USA is having a negative effect on a large part of the planet. People who are affected by USA policy have a right to voice their opinion, even if they are not USA citizens, and even if they live outside the USA.
    JHK’s CFN blog is open to comment from around the world. There are no rules that say only USA posters living in the USA have a right to voice their opinion.
    Chill, bro. I am still telling people to stay the hell out of the USA because, as DeeJones (and Orlov, and many others) say, the USA is going down the tubes, not because of poor brown people (whose net contribution is positive), but because of rich white people who have outsourced manufacturing, pushed NAFTA and WTO, and “legally” stolen trillions of dollars from the USA economy.

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  786. progress2conserve January 2, 2012 at 12:01 am #

    “But does it matter whether Asoka is leveling his critiques from Costa Rica?”
    -buck S-
    Because Bageant and Reed were/are definitely telling the truth about living outside of the US.
    Plus they were/are consistently in favor of positions that would be good for the average lower or middle class American, regardless of race.
    I don’t believe either of these things can be said to be true of asoka..

  787. asoka. January 2, 2012 at 12:12 am #

    I don’t believe either of these things can be said to be true of asoka..
    =================
    Procon, we have differences of opinion, but you are now questioning my patriotism and that is offensive.
    My positions are different from yours but I believe they are what is right to have a strong multicultural USA.
    Just as a military that includes Muslims, Jews, and Christians and homosexuals makes for a stronger military (that opinion was based on boots on the ground research showing unit cohesion is negatively affected by a minority of homophobes and racists who create division in a platoon. Those people must be drummed out of the military).
    I defend your right to your opinion and do not question your patriotism. I would appreciate the same respect from you.

  788. asoka. January 2, 2012 at 12:15 am #

    CORRECTION
    Those people, i.e., RACISTS AND HOMOPHOBES who harm unit cohesion, must be drummed out of the military.

  789. progress2conserve January 2, 2012 at 12:28 am #

    “they were/are consistently in favor of positions that would be good for the average lower or middle class American, regardless of race.”
    -p2c, concerning reed and bageant-
    “I defend your right to your opinion and do not question your patriotism.” -asoka.-
    That’s a complete non sequiteur, a..
    Being in favor of the lower and middle classes in the United States has nothing at all to do with US “patriotism,” as the term is generally defined.
    The Obama DoJ enforced marijuana and drug policy is very bad for US blacks, especially. And it’s not working out all that well for the average Mexican, either.
    And the Wars of Obama are merely an extension of the BushII policies.
    I am certain that Ron Paul is the only national level politician who will even have a discussion about their constitutionality – let alone, try to stop them.
    ====================
    Furthermore, a.., I will never believe that you are on a dial-up connection in the Andes mountains, in a third world village, and still carrying on, as though this was an important discussion to be having.

  790. asoka. January 2, 2012 at 12:42 am #

    I defend your right to believe whatever you want, and to believe that what you say is important. That is what makes your posts so interesting.
    You actually believe USA immigration policy is a key issue to the survival of life on the planet. No one else has quite that position that I know of. Cool.

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  791. progress2conserve January 2, 2012 at 1:04 am #

    “You actually believe USA immigration policy is a key issue to the survival of life* on the planet”
    -asoka..-
    *make that survival of HUMAN life on the planet – and make US immigration the KEY issue that US voters should have control over, and you’ve got my position pretty well covered
    And a lot of people think ecosystem collapse caused by American style capitalistic growth might be the end of human life on Earth. I’m just the only one on CFN, consistently trying to get other people to help me do something about it.
    For example, since you mentioned it, others can help by joining:
    Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)
    or
    NumbersUSA**.
    **rated best by SPLC

  792. asoka. January 2, 2012 at 1:44 am #

    Here’s an idea: instead of naming organizations against immigration (because you say American style capitalistic growth might be the end of human life on earth), why don’t you promote something more positive?
    Instead of being against immigration, why not be for things. For example, for buddhist economics (instead of capitalistic economics) or for permaculture / sustainable living (instead of a growth economy) or for voluntary simplicity (instead of rampant consumerism).
    If our collective style of life changes and becomes sustainable, it doesn’t matter whether the people on our side of the border are “documented” or “undocumented.”
    It might be novel to be for a variety of things, instead of always, week after week, being against one thing: immigration.
    It’s just a thought.

  793. Eleuthero January 2, 2012 at 2:31 am #

    Asoka said:
    Ron Paul is a racist, so it does not surprise me that he has Procon’s vote.
    *********************************************************
    Does a day go by without you playing the race card?? When are you going to understand the fundamental truth that ALL races are “racist” and a HUGE majority of all of these races are “racist”?
    As Nietzsche once said: “Who would dare write a true biography?”
    E.

  794. progress2conserve January 2, 2012 at 2:36 am #

    “If our* collective style of life changes and becomes sustainable,”
    -asoka.-
    By *”our,” you slip into character as someone who is INSIDE the United States.
    And few things are as blindingly obvious, as the fact that US citizens (native, immigrant, ,legal, illegal) will NEVER live sustainable lifestyles – until forced to do so, by economic collapse, environmental collapse, or both.
    And I am for many, many things. For example, I am for FAIR and NumbersUSA.
    Stop burning up that “Andean landline?” and give it up for the evening, asoka..
    Wonder when JHK’s predictions for the new year will be posted?

  795. ak January 2, 2012 at 4:00 am #

    18 min video: Highlights of Ron Paul in 15Dec2011 Debate.
    Bad people hate Ron Paul.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhbGL3F8r4c

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  796. Alexandra January 2, 2012 at 6:55 am #

    @ Krandz
    Tis a real shame you’re such a one-trick fascist pony, who’s blinkered prejudices blinds him to the real facts.
    Here in the UK our summer riots and looting were not one race driven. In fact events defied easy classification; in Haringey, a suburb of London 55% of rioters appearing in court were black from only a 17% black local population. But in Salford, near Manchester 94% of rioters in court where white, from an 88% white local population.
    But what these flashmob social network linked youths had in common was assuming this rampage had a sorta impromptu social night out, ‘party-on-dude’ feel to it… with free stuff attached as a driving lubricant – which was why they pillaged mainly from sport, electrical gadget and off-licence (booze) stores.
    And you bleating on about the death of one fellow Italian fascist, and the evils of liberal monsters pales to insignificance when compared to the horrors that were perpetrated by a cocktail of neo-nazi, islamophobic, sexual inadequacy and extreme nationalism thinking, that created the freak that is Anders Breivik. A white racist that killed 69 fellow white Norwegians back in July, most of them being little children at there summer camp island retreat location. If he resided in Texas the death penalty would of course have be mandatory, in Norway they’ve simply concluded that he was clinically insane.
    And while on the subject of sexual inadequacy, its only to be expected that your fascistic hollow thinking lends itself to classify me only via a simple commodity based ‘Hefneresque’ level. SMV/MVM…?? You forgot to add in the most important option, MMM = money market value.
    As I’ve always been hard working and intentionally self-financing I can afford to fully ignore lame lazy approaches and offers from overweight flaccid beta/thinking themselves alpha men. I turned down a marriage offer as recently as last Xmas in fact…
    And being dragged by my silky rich auburn hair into a dark bleak cave, by a knuckle-dragging backward thinking Neanderthal… is the very least of my ambitions.
    @ the CFN kollectiv
    This is the most interesting prediction list I’ve found so far
    http://www.maxbankruptcybootcamp.com/o-max-gardner-iiis-top-12-predictions-for-2012
    Let’s see if JHK can do better?
    As to who wins the presidential race come Oct… does it really matter? The given is QE3 will mean the coming summer will see the USA economy improving – just as you are meant to start the process of voting time…
    Be seeing you…

  797. asoka. January 2, 2012 at 9:26 am #

    Yeah, lots of people, of all races, are racist. But it does not follow that EVERYONE is a racist.
    I just prefer not to elect racist Ron Paul to the office of the Presidency of the United States.
    Voting for a non-racist is my constitutional right, which Ron Paul says he wants to protect.

  798. adryllzy January 2, 2012 at 8:42 pm #

    Really have the time very happy.

    us bear in mind firmly in mind .

    crying to , we went over with a smile .

  799. xcurmfkkw January 3, 2012 at 3:53 am #

    seven good enough for a lifetime of psychological allegory

    (a) the growth of fable: the growth of apple trees will never do a

    an apple, and finally the result.
    the first year, which end up with 10 apples, nine were taken away, that she was one. In response, angry apple trees, so from the off, in turn, refused to grow. The next year, which end up with five apples, four were taken away, they get one.
    However, it can do: continue to grow. For example, the second year, which end up with 100 fruit, 90 were taken away, that she was 10.
    likely, it was taken away 99, that she was one. But it does not matter, it can continue to grow, year-end 1000 the third fruit … …
    In fact, how much fruit is not the most important. The most important thing is to grow apple trees! Other apple trees grow into towering trees, those who have hindered its growth will be weak enough to ignore the power. Really, do not worry so much about fruit growing is the most important.

    psychological Comments] [you are not a meridian of the work has since broken family?
    beginning work, you brilliant, high-spirited, believing that But reality soon hit a few of your Sap, perhaps, you do a great contribution for the unit no one seriously; perhaps, only to get attention but not the oral benefits; perhaps … … In short, you feel like the apple tree , bear the fruit of their own to enjoy only a small part, and falls far short of your expectations.
    So you angry, you upset, you are full of **** in prison … … Finally, if you decide not to make their own made to match their income. Over the past few years, you a self-examination, you find now, when the work has not just a passion and talent.
    But the essence is that you have stopped growing.
    this story, everywhere around us.
    reason for such mistakes, because we forget that life is a process that is a whole, we feel that they have grown too, and now is the time of the fruit. We too care about temporary gains and losses, and forget the growth is the most important.
    Fortunately, this is not a Jin Yong novel of cutting off meridians. We are ready to give up to do so, the road continues to grow.
    Remember: If you are a working family, having do not understand management, management or error management brutal boss or the corporate culture, then, to remind ourselves about, do not in prison because of anger and full of **** and cutting off the meridians . No matter what, have to do an ever growing apple trees, because you never grow important than how much money each month.

    (b) the motivation of the fable: the child in whom a group of children playing

    frolic in front of an old, sounds and groaning. Over the past few days, the elderly unbearable.
    So he came out to 25 cents for each child, said to them: happy, the next day is still coming, as always, frolic. Old people come out, give each child 15 cents. He explained that he had no income, only a small to some. 15 cents is also right, children are still happily away.
    third day, the elderly only 5 cents for each child.
    children with rage,

    psychological Comments] [Whom you themselves and
    were two types of motivation: internal motivation and external motivation. According to the internal motivation to act, we are masters of their own. If we are driven by external motivation, we will be swayed by external factors, become its slaves.
    In this fable, the old man’s calculation is simple, he will be the children’s internal motivation cents the external factors, so it manipulated the children’s behavior. Fables of the elderly, a lot like your boss, boss? And cents, like not like your wages, bonuses and other kinds of external rewards?
    such as the external evaluation as a reference frame, our emotions can easily fluctuate. Because external factors beyond our control, it is easy to deviate from our internal expectations, so we are not satisfied, let us prison full of ****. Dissatisfaction and firm **** and other negative emotions so that our pain, in order to reduce the pain, we had to reduce the internal expectations, the most common method is to reduce the work effort. The reason why a person would form
    **** Department evaluation system, the main reason is that parents like to control him. Parents too prefer to use verbal rewards and punishments, such as material rewards and punishments to control their children, rather than to ignore the child’s own motivation. Over time, the children have forgotten their original motives, what are the external evaluation of care. School, he forgot to learn the original motivation — curiosity and the joy of learning; work, he has forgotten the original motivation for the work — the joy of growth, the evaluation of supervisors and income fluctuations into his work largest source of pleasure and pain.
    Remember: external evaluation system is often a family history, but you can break it, from now on cultivating their own internal evaluation system, to study and work into a

    (c) the planning of the fable: the piece of paper folded 51 times

    Imagine you have a large enough hands white. Now, your task is to fold it 51 times. So, how high it is?
    a refrigerator? Floor? Or a skyscraper so high? No, too unfamiliar, the thickness exceeds the distance between Earth and the Sun.

    psychological Comments] [
    to now, I get asked a dozen people this parable, the only two people that can not imagine this could be a high degree, while others think The maximum height is a skyscraper so high.
    folded 51 times the height of such terror, but if only the 51 white paper stacked together?
    This contrast was shocking to many people. Because there is no direction, lack of planning in life, like the 51 simple white stacked together. Doing this today, tomorrow doing that, every time there is no link between efforts. As a result, even if each work done very well, they are also your whole life is nothing but a simple superposition.
    course, life is more complicated than this fable. Some people, life finds a simple and firm direction to do so, they finally reached someone else’s life unattainable height. For example, a friend of my direction in life is English, he spent more than a decade efforts, only the memory of the word reached the amount of ten million and more, at this point to reach the average person can not match the height.
    some people, their direction in life is also very clear, for example, start a company boss, so they need a lot of skills — skills, management skills, communication skills, decision-making skills and so on. They may try doing this in the beginning, but try doing that, none of them are particularly proficient, but in the end, the boss of this company’s direction to open the previous efforts of these seemingly fragmented integration together, which is a folding of complex life, rather than a simple superposition.
    Remember: visible power more useful than the invisible forces.
    Now, the popular place to find answers from the invisible, such as potential development, such as the success of science, that our lives depend on a number of miracles to be saved. However, in my opinion, Dongguan Heng edge Counseling Center counselor Maozheng Jiang said more correctly, > (d) to avoid the fable: cat escape the shadow of the tricks

    it.
    However, Tom and Toby finally have found their own solution. Tom is always close their eyes. Toby is a way to always stay in the shadows of other things.

    [Comment]
    psychological fable shows that a small psychological problems is how to become more psychological problems.
    can say that all psychological problems are related to the distortion of the facts. What facts? We mainly those suffering negative **** piece.
    Because painful experience, we do not want to face the negative **** piece. However, once occurred, so the negative **** pieces destined to be with us for life, we can do, but they are the most repressed into the unconscious to g
    o, this is the so-called forgotten.
    However, they are still in the subconscious will continue to play a role. And, even if we have forgotten the facts and then severe, the pain associated with these facts will still attack us, let us somehow sad, and can not be suppressed. This pain Let us further efforts to escape.
    development to the end, the usual solution is to these two: either we like cats, like Tom, completely distort their experience of life in all the important negative real **** are blind; or, as we Toby, as kittens, simply join their pain, to all of their things were very bad, since everything is so bad, sad that their most original event is not so painful.
    Baiyun mental hospital consultant, said Li Ling, 99% of **** who had a painful experience. The reason they make their escape to ****, the pain. It’s like hide in the shadows, a painful fact is that the devil, the devil in order to avoid this, simply to sell itself to a greater devil.
    many alcoholic adults, they have had an alcoholic and abusive father, and put the father’s a lot of torture. To forget the pain, they learn the same way. In addition to these visible
    the wrong way, we humans have invented a myriad of all sorts of ways to avoid pain, Freud referred to these methods of psychological defense mechanisms. Too painful, these defense mechanisms are necessary, but worse, if the distortion of the facts of psychological defense mechanism is so intense, it will bring out more psychological problems, such as obsessive-compulsive disorder, social anxiety disorder, multiple personality, or even spirit **** psychosis.
    really only one way to reach health — face the pain. Face the pain the pain will get from many unexpected results, they will eventually become the life of the party of wealth.
    Remember: shadow and light, are life’s wealth.
    one of the most important psychological law that, no matter how painful, you are not escape. You can only go bravely face it, resolve it, beyond it, and it finally reached a settlement. If you own a temporary lack of power, you can look for help, looking for friends and relatives to help, or seek professional help, so you trust accompany you to face these painful things.
    Rogers, American psychologist, was the most lonely person, but when he resolved to face this fact and, after he became a true master of interpersonal relationships; American psychologist Frank has a brutal and alcoholic stepfather and a bad mother, but when he challenges the fact and ultimately from the heart to forgive his parents, he became an expert treatment of this problem; Japanese psychologists Morita horse was being serious neurological disorder, but this fact and by challenging Morita therapy eventually invented … they most painful fact of life eventually became their most important asset. You can do the same.

    (e) action fable — crabs, owls and bats

    crabs, owls and bats to go to cram school abuse. Few years later, they all graduate and PhD. However, the crab is still rampant, owls sleep during the day and evening activities, still, bat still hung upside down.

    psychological Comments] [This is even famous master
    a fable, its meaning is simple: action important than knowledge.
    used in mental health, this fable is thought-provoking.
    called profound knowledge of psychology. However, more even knowledge of psychology to help a person does not automatically become more healthy. In fact, I know some people who studied psychology for many years, they learn psychology, one of the purposes is to rule themselves, but learned after so many years, their problems remain.
    reason why this happens, a very important reason is that they do not personally, so far only the knowledge of knowledge, knowledge, and not into their own life experience.
    one of my friends like psychology, psychology has been more than those that are not sensitive, not suitable for school psychology. But the fact is, this speculation is not correct. He is not sensitive enough, but he has a very big advantage: know a good knowledge immediately in their own lives to do it. As a result, those distant knowledge becomes real life experience, he does not
    If that sensitivity is a genius ,**** quality is more important then the go-anywhere qualities of genius.
    This fable can also derive another meaning: Do not expect too psychological treatment of the mysterious magic. The most important power is always in your own body, the mysteries of knowledge, the potential development of mysterious, dazzling success of science, etc., are far inferior to the power of your own body has been important. We used to go out looking for answers, where to find the strength to others, the results have forgotten the power in themselves.
    Remember: other people’s knowledge can not automatically save you.
    If the punch line of some Lianzhu impressed you, if some text or a new creed inspired you. So, these people’s words and experience are just the beginning, more importantly, you think you really use a good knowledge of your own life to go. Jewish philosopher Martin Buber
    these words, I always thought that the most important:
    you have to start. If you do not go in depth with a positive love life, if you do not go their own way to reveal the meaning of life for themselves, then for you, life would still be meaningless.

    (vi) abandon the fable:

    bees and flowers withered roses, the bees are still hard ****, because it takes before the **** off from this little sweet. But now in this little flower, bee venom is ****.
    bees know this, because the venom bitter, the taste is a big difference with the previous. Thus, bees anger, however, breathe on it the whole world looked up to complain about, and why the taste changed? !
    Finally one day, do not know why, bee vibrating wings, fly a little higher. At this time, it is found around the withered roses, fresh flowers everywhere.

    psychological Comments] [
    This is about the love parable, is a young language teacher of the true sentiment.
    some time, her disappointment in love, very painful, I always wanted to talk about, I hope I can give her some knowledge of psychology to help. We have some time, but nearly two months later, the total time they can not happen to get together.
    last time about her, she said: Pain of lost love is still bothering her, let her trance, can not enjoy the beauty of Jiuzhaigou. Inadvertently,Monster Beats Sale, she noticed a little bee on a flower nectar is. In that instant, lightning her mind a camel appeared saying: , just humans foolish, her words the bees of course, refers to her own. This moment, she had to give up the truth out of insight. Previously, she wanted me to help her out, but in fact, the long wings in her own body, she can fly to fly.
    not easy to give up, give up, especially in love painful. Because love is young, when our copy of the parent-child relationship. Young children, no matter from which side, father and mother are inseparable. If Mom and Dad completely deny him, and that means death for him, this is the ultimate harm and fear. We have experienced more or less to be father and mother no pain and fear, so when love — a copy of the parent-child relationship that we once again experience the pain and fear, our emotions can easily become very bad.
    However, compared to love and parent-child relationship, there is a huge difference: a child, we can not, all parents have the final say; but now, we grow up, we have the power to choose their own destiny. It can be said, childhood, we are a small bee without wings, but now we have a pair of strong wings.
    However, when caught up in love, we will return to childhood, we forget a pair of wings can fly. And so we ourselves realize that, the love is no longer automatically copy parent-child relationship, we love to get free, have to give up power.
    Remember: love is two thing
    s, two completely equal, independent personality of the person to do. You can work, but not that you worked hard on there will be results, because another person, you are not around.
    So, no matter how much you care about a love, if another person determined to leave you, please respect his choice.
    And also remember, you are no longer childhood, only let the pain of torture. You have adult, you have a pair of strong wings, you can fly out of a relationship has become a poison.

    (g) close fable: the unique Rose

    Little Prince has a small planet, a planet suddenly bloom flowers blooming roses. Previously, only some of the unknown planet of flowers, the little prince had never seen such beautiful flowers, he fell in love with the rose, carefully nurtured her.
    that for some time, he thought, this is a single flower on earth, only he’s only on the planet, other places do not exist.
    However, he came to Earth and found that there is only a garden exactly the same as the 5000 flowers. At this time, he knows that he only have an ordinary flower.
    the beginning, this discovery, so that the little prince was very sad. But in the end, the little prince to understand, even though the world has countless roses, but his planet tis, is still unique, because tis roses, he poured over, took off her hood cover, with the screen protection over , in addition to her body of caterpillars, but also to listen to her in Yuan Yi and boasted, listen to her silence … … In short, he tamed her, and she tamed him, she is his unique roses.

    psychological Comments] [
    This is a French classic .
    face of 5000 roses, the little prince said: meaningful. But now we are increasingly popular emptiness of the We are anxious to have
    . As if, for each owned a rose, the value of their own lives Duoliaoyifen. Internet age, with several ten lover, is no longer so rare thing. But I know who these melodramatic, no one is empty. They do not enjoy the relationship, they just enjoy the conquest.
    distance relationship, but once you have, they will quickly lose interest in this intimate relationship. the stronger the desire to conquer, the faster the loss. flowers, more attractive.
    However, relations between the United States, is almost the level of commitment and they are tame level. When two people are naturally going into, naturally, is tamed, the relationship will become a life nourishment, so that a person’s life becomes more filling and more beautiful.
    However, no matter how intimate. Little Prince is still the little prince, rose still a rose, they are still two individuals. If the roses let the little prince travel, or the little prince will travel non-roses with me, they have to stick together, the relationship no longer enjoy, and will become a burden.
    Remember: both a close and mutually independent relationship, the relationship is generally better than one thousand. Such a relationship, we will incorrigible sense of isolation from the rescue, is the most important in our lives as a salvation.
    If you never experienced, you can not know the relationship of the United States.

  800. xcurmfkkw January 3, 2012 at 3:58 am #

    guide words: the eyes are the windows of the soul, a person is happy or painful, happy or depressed, a health or disease, are reaction in the eyes. Not only that, the window of the soul is, character and behavior of the external show, a positive attitude to life, or implicit Yu temperament, are reflected from the eye, just to see the subtle color and texture changes.

    eyes can see?

    1. look handsome, certainly excellent.

    eyes are the windows of the soul can be seen through the eyes of the world people’s hearts, eyes black and white, Feng Mu affectionate, handsome eyes of people, small heart troubles, luck is smooth, respected and loved, it must be very good person.

    2. turbid eyes, certainly possessed.

    cloudy eye does not shine, the heart must have a lot of things pressing, a troubled, is that the demons with a focus on Buddhist symbol. The eyes that are more annoying things, pressure, physical ill health.

    3. floating eyes exposed, certainly fiction.

    false eyes, look around, is prima facie evidence of a guilty conscience, fear that other people see his inner world. The eyes, often heavy suspicion and prevent heart strong, handling special care,Chemise Boss Pas Cher, love to take advantage, difficult to become a major event.

    4. Eichhornia clear, certainly smart.

    longan rounded, smooth tone wise, the mighty eye of the tiger, better and more economical, these are the decisive act, black and white, amiable, no enemies, work well, is a highly intelligent person. Comparing life to do so, and smooth.

    5. lines and deep enough, no confidants.

    lines around the eyes more deep and chaos, that people care about more, preoccupied, is not intimate friends, including his own relatives, including his wife, even he himself did not believe, no confidants elegant, work full- their own, single break it alone, it is difficult Yields.

    6. eyes squint, no self-confidence.

    flashing eyes mess, his eyes squint, is a symbol of self-confidence, so that the eyes of their own, others are full of suspicion, mistrust, which created a life on the road, a rough ride.

    7. the eyes clear and bright, Feng Mu friendship, is a symbol of kindness.

    the Editor: eyes sharp, dark, muddy, so that people feel dull show, impetuous, rage, over time the body, nature has an impact. Life is full of hope, to develop good minds, more tolerant, and read to put a heavy burden, treat others, concerned about their side, why would they not happy.

    [more exciting, waiting to explore the joy! ]

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  801. xcurmfkkw January 3, 2012 at 4:01 am #

    the stomach, is the noodles; meters in more acid, so eat less rice. . . . . .

    If porridge, put some baking soda into a small, good for the stomach. . . . . .

    millet gruel on the bread (not buns), you can stomach. . . . . .

    should drink two drinks, one of milk, the second is water. Do not drink milk, morning fasting, but changed after 1-2 hours after breakfast drink milk, a fasting stomach with food to prevent the shortcomings of milk; Second, eat some milk before more starchy foods such as bread, etc. ; three in the morning to drink while eating steamed milk, rice, bread, biscuits, snacks and other starchy foods, it will give the milk a longer residence time in the human stomach, milk and juice to fully enzymatic hydrolysis occurs, the Protein digestion and absorption can be very good.
    stomach is not good, to small meals often. . . . . .

    peanuts, raw is best, before meals, eating 4-6, eating too much but Shang Wei. . . . . .

    jujube, tofu, cabbage, milk, carrots, spleen and stomach. . . . . .

    apple, grapefruit, grapes, oranges, pineapple, anti-fat accumulation, Qi Sheng Jin Bu Xin Jin ending. . . . . .

    walnuts, hazelnuts, pine nuts, longans, peanuts and other nuts and timely supply of trace elements in food may benefit bone health. . . . . .

    peanuts, honey, are the Stomach. . . . . .

    tea + honey …. very stomach. . . . . . How to Stomach stomach

    saying to achieve the desired therapeutic effect. Stomach like a daily non-stop working machines, food in the digestive process will mucosa caused by mechanical damage, to maintain a controlled diet is the key to treatment of stomach. In addition, the high level of mental stress is an important cause of stomach problems occur, such as drivers, construction workers, office staff, etc. have a high incidence of stomach, so these people should maintain good habits and mental pleasure.
    1, from the start on the rest of life, at least three meals a day to regular meals, it is best to set yourself a schedule, and then strictly adhered to. This also would have an impact on sleep, sleep at nights because some people are eating an early lunch, and this habit must change, not to say that you can make up for supper at night, because the human biological clock although you can move back , but always within a certain range, could not produce much difference. If you do not believe, you can go to check the information related to the human body clock.

    2, in general, the stomach digestive function of poor people, the symptoms will be full to eat a little, eat a little bit would be bloating, especially at night, eat it, but also because of the stomach and stagflation affect sleep. Hard, good things fiber digestion. Therefore recommend frequent meals, if not to the dinner time, you can add some food, but not too much, we must remember that this is not dinner, eat dinner, or according to the normal. Food to the soft, loose-based, some more toughness, refreshing things should not eat, because these things the most difficult to digest. Tom is best to drink before meals, after dinner drink will increase digestive difficulties. Twenty-three hours before going to sleep are best not to eat, or likely to influence sleep, empty stomach if you think you can drink plenty of water.

    3, stomach people should quit smoking, alcohol, coffee, tea, carbonated beverages

    4, soy milk is good, but for the cold, not a substitute for milk.

    5, bread can stomach, try as a staple food.

    6, other vegetables and fruits, the food is not lacking in the human body, so it should be enough. But the best thing to eat soft cooked, so the stomach will feel better. Peel vegetables and more fiber, you can eat moderately, but not too much, not easy to digest, and therefore can be relatively eat fruits.

    7, people have the stomach after a meal should not exercise, rest and so the best food the stomach to digest almost start working, or trot to walk, it is better for digestion, in short, not after dinner work.

    8, non-acute cases, medication is not recommended, because the long-term medication have side effects, and stomach is a chronic disease,Veste Ralph Lauren, it is impossible in the short term cure. If you need to promote traditional Chinese doctor, Chinese medicine is particularly effective remedy for the stomach.

    9, papaya temperament for the stomach, stomach can be used as food, but for people more stomach acid, do not use too much. Moreover, we must remember that the stomach hi dry aversion to cold, in addition to ice things, other cold foods such as green bean also should not eat.

    10, Once again, the stomach is a chronic disease, it is impossible in the short term cure. Treatment remedy is to rely on We all need a good stomach, these habits are essential.

  802. xcurmfkkw January 3, 2012 at 4:03 am #

    The boy fell in love with a girl, the girl liked him,Monster Energy Clothing, and gradually, two people come together, living together, and when the boy’s mouth first kiss to the girl’s lips, the girl decided that she was related to his set, so the girl naughty asked: other girls! !! Boys and girls together for almost three years, they love each other each other, but the day is always worse than people would like, bad luck finally arrived at the happy lovers who gradually began to escape boys to girls, neglected. no longer as before, then pet her, the girl seemed aware of what, so he began to ask the boy, but the boy did not tell us why, and finally one day, the boy suddenly brought back to a very stylish and sexy beautiful woman back, then girls also trying to cheat themselves, they innocently asked: sitting there, the girl did not dare look up the boy, because she was afraid of falling tears will not help; she did not want to see their boy cry, because she still believes the boy still love her. individually and talk to him. reason! >
    after a long, the girl saw the boy again when it is in the hospital, the difference is that two people are horrendous thin, because the girl is sad, like he had gastritis, and how the boy in the hospital there it?? girl because my heart still love him with ease, so he quietly following them …..

    find a suitable heart for transplant, then we will no longer capable of maintaining his life a Once again, the girl shed tears for the boy, but attained during the last more sad, more hysterical, the girl sitting in the window journeying non-stop tears fall down, and suddenly she stood up, went to the table Pick up the pen on the paper before writing something, and then she smiled and picked up the phone called the boy’s phone, I have this opportunity to you? came to their first meeting of the Park, but the girl still did not appear after a long, anxious wait for the boy, the girl still did not appear last, the lost boys gone, the girl looked at the boy away in the back, said to himself, not bear …….

    A few days later the boy to heart transplant, he excited the woman said: , the first thing I do find her, tell her the facts. > boy is really the heart transplant was successful, he woke up to the girl on the phone was busy, but it no answer, once, twice, three times …… boy that has been playing, but no one has been received, the boy frustrated, said: life can be nice, yesterday, the girl’s name will make your heart to donate, she seems to anticipate their own death, also wrote a will. Unfortunately, that’s just a girl long crystal doll-like, do not know how such a thing, listen to the driver said she was hit over his @! my people. , when they saw the dead face of the moment, boys and women are stiff in there, between the boy’s distressed trance a bit, he ripped off like crazy white deceased, cried, Yeah baby you do not scare me up!!! impossible. sister, I dream, right??? you tell me!!! Baby I quest is not the case and you wake up Yeah baby! him in the face, said with tears: looked at the girl became very gentle eyes, his mouth still see the girl with a smile, smile so calm, the boy cried again. looked at the girl that there is little blood on the clothes, looking at her like a snow white hand, the boy suddenly found the girl holding out a mass of paper, opened it, a girl wrote his letter: Dear, I’m sorry, please do not blame me? I really love you, your day in the park, etc. I am, I went, but did not show up, I am behind you, I want you all firmly in mind, because I want my next life we ??can together, although you did not fulfill its promise in this life, but I do not blame you, because I really love you, even if you do not love me, but my heart will be inside your body for life, this position is occupied by anyone can not, dear, oh, must be happy, I put my gave you all the happiness, but you must let the next life I am happy, right? dear, promise me not to abandon my next life, okay? life and then to fulfill the promise of our afterlife. dear, goodbye, I wish you happiness …

    Sorry, I have never not love you, baby! I was wrong !…. you back .. ah, : God is crying ….

    read fast forward, not people do not turn

  803. xcurmfkkw January 3, 2012 at 4:04 am #

    1, people tend to have dimples spleen cold stomach, liver and gallbladder problems easily.
    2, chiseled face are generally relatively high IQ.
    3, acne and more people face cold stomach, lower limb blood circulation, should sit less and move more.
    4, (Southerners have the physical characteristics of northerners, southerners northerners have the physical characteristics)
    5, long legs, short waist more people to protect their waist.
    6, the hair is the kidney open flowers, early white hair and pale yellow, more people kidney.
    7, the person must be bald kidney.
    8, thin hair who desire stronger.
    9, before the amount of three lines: from top to bottom are a, day pattern, one day pattern of brain blood circulation problems, people will dizziness headache; b, one pattern, one pattern too deep stomach there will be problems, some women will be more grain dysmenorrhea; c, land lines, lines of people should have to pay attention to his lower limbs blood circulation, if the land lines only long side, indicating the easy hemiplegia.
    10, a prominent human brain skull brain development, but also pay attention to their brain blood circulation, more exercise.
    11, eyebrow hair can not be pressed. (People who stay Liu Qi attention!!!) Sent to suppress the eyebrow, eyebrows will fall long, people will be out of luck.
    12, corresponding to brow, good or bad quality of the respiratory system, liver and gallbladder function corresponding to the brow of the good and bad, good or bad.
    13, who recently brow tilt may be bothering.
    14, middle eyebrow mole people, the soil in the gold, it will make money, but could not save money.
    15, eyebrows, and a person’s lifespan, the primary liver brow, brow good people good immunity; brow lungs, representing the blood.
    16, representatives of the forehead over the neck and shoulder acne problem, the computer should not take too long, it is the winter palace girls, vacation there will be blood clots, or dysmenorrhea.
    17, two eyebrows is the best distance with his index finger and middle finger plus the width.
    18, between the eyebrows main heart. People between the eyebrows dark, blood deficiency; a mole between the eyebrows of people pay attention to myself, not a beauty spot Oh! This means that respiratory problems, sinusitis easy oh!
    19, a high brow, wide eyebrows from people who are left-brain thinking, tricks and more.
    20, for the woman, the right brow to the hairline of position sense couple Palace. This place if a mole or spot, or blue veins clearly represent your marital relationship is not very good, also have the phenomenon of dizziness or migraine; and width of the middle distance, then, that you will marry later.
    22, the same for a woman, left brow to the hairline position called the Crawford House, a long spot length mole here can be seen if there will be several romantic encounters and even your life you will be pregnant pregnant several times, and this person will insomnia, brain blood circulation problems.
    23, the liver opens into the eyes, yellow eyed benevolence have hepatitis.
    24, women after childbirth, president of spots around the eyes it means that your liver function declined.
    25, whites in the liver spots show that you have a problem, oh ~!
    26, red on both sides of the nose is caused by cold stomach.
    27, the size of the nose represents the size of your heart. Heart of a small people, life and more attention due to their blood circulation, eat red foods.
    28, bridge of the nose is not straight people will not be straight spine.
    29, while the nose of a mole people, for women, which side of a mole on which side of the chest shows lobular hyperplasia, or have the risk of fibroids.
    30, the nose is getting better, but the people are as low as possible. People are Renduermai at the intersection of the old man soon or end of life of people will be flattened.
    31, among the three shapes: a, shaped, posterior uterus of these women, it is difficult to conceive, may also infertility. c, parallel to the wire among
    32, for men, out of the deep bump shows good renal function, reproductive system, well, people tend to have shallow prostatitis.
    33, corresponding to the mouth reproductive system. Acne around the mouth of people pay attention to his stomach.
    34, should be more young girls hot foot soak.
    35, mouth natural mole people down there should be more concerned about their mother, because my mother must have gynecological diseases. The same situation for women, but also shows that he may have uterine fibroids.
    36, Four Seasons Health: Spring Liver; summer nourishing the heart, do not eat the food in the cold; long summer, referring to the last month of summer, the raising of the spleen and stomach, eat more whole grains; autumn Nourishing, eat white foods like; Dong Yang Shen, eat black class food.
    37, kidney opens into the ear, kidney if there are problems, went back to deaf ears ringing in the ears.
    38, the two joint right thumb or the middle of a two stripes, indicating a problem with your neck.
    39, hand joints black people will cold stomach.
    sign of the Zodiac and health (each animal is of concern to people in different parts)
    mice: first, the rat’s head who is not too small
    cattle: the stomach, the stomach is likely to get sick cattle were Tiger: eyebrows, more attention to the maintenance of
    rabbit liver and gallbladder: the mouth, around the mouth Zhangdou female gynecological problems
    Long Description: ears, can not appear jug ??ears
    snakes: the waist, around the waist can not have too more meat (it seems I have to lean back, oh ???) horse: the limbs, pay attention to their blood circulation
    sheep: eyes, black eye the bigger the better
    monkey: the cheek (as Wei Wei teacher Oh,Monster Beats Sale, did not mention ???) chicken: ass, people are susceptible to hemorrhoids chicken, bowel function
    dog to pay attention to the: nose, concerned about their
    pig spleen: the forehead, the forehead must be wide and bright, can not have forehead wrinkles.

    1. fingers uneven thickness, then the weak kidney function. There is acidic, if a girl is difficult to give birth to her son. (I think this is a bit unreasonable)
    2. Hands white with red on the bottom of the flower, the color is uneven hand, to pay attention to their bowel function.
    3. hypothenar hand position in the emergence of a stripes, that is, outside of the thumb bottom hand piece, which shows a family with diabetes. (This is really accurate, I was like) I 46 to 50 years of age should pay attention to their diabetes problem.
    4. palm center mole, palm middle of the stomach reflex, indicating poor gastrointestinal function.
    5. everyone’s hand relative to the corresponding organs are now, starting from the thumb, each finger representing the heart, liver, spleen, lung, kidney, refers to the head if there is any abnormal phenomenon, For example, long-mole.
    6. observe the thumb, thenar you observe, is the inside of the palm, palm below the thumb position, there is no blue veins to see if there is, there is no family should pay attention to heart and brain blood vessel disease . If blue is early my stomach a little problem (I was blue).
    7. look at the index finger, has long roots from the index finger to index finger, middle hepatic veins shows there is a serious problem.
    8. who gathered all the joints are a large number of lymph nodes, joint pain, then if that is the problem in addition to lymphatic Exhaust features. Also pay attention to the future, lower limb blood circulation.
    9. look at the middle finger, which is the spleen. This dark color or black people especially the middle finger joints are stomach problems. Cool things can not eat, really painful joints, then w
    ith hot water bubble feet per day, before 10 feet in the evening best.
    10. look at the ring finger, which is the lung. Respiratory lung owner, if the thickness of a tiger ring uneven, or there is pain swelling phenomenon, will suffer from the trachea, bronchus, pharyngitis, pneumonia, laryngitis symptoms. If the bridge of the nose and then a long mole, be sure to pay attention to your respiratory system.
    11. Look at the little finger, which is the kidney. Kidney is the innate, the little finger shape relationship renal function. A very short little finger will congenital kidney.
    12. people have got 386 points, look at your hands in the three cases when the corporal can not see: a, alcohol can not see, because drinking alcohol in the blood circulation to change; b, cloudy and sunny days can not see the hand of cloudy and sunny days is not the same pattern, c, day and night hand pattern is not the same.
    13. back of the hand is a person’s back, when the blue veins on the back of the hand is particularly evident, indicating the last time you will be Yaosuanbeiteng.
    14. When all the joints are found in black hands, the cold that his body, Qi.
    15. more than three years old are 80-year-old children can watch hands.
    16. the first half nail marks can only be properly accounted for one fifth of the normal nail, the normal color is milk white, not pure white.
    17. observe the elderly, the nails can not be black, If the nails black on the left not far from the description, nor yellow nail color, yellow bile of people have problems, especially if the color white person, this person is a cancer. Horizontal and vertical lines appear on the nail, to explain the recent decline in your immune resistance.
    18. fingernail length of the fingers can only account for the length of the top half of a joint. (I will not stay long fingernails Oh ~!)
    19. From the hand below the beginning, the first line is the lifeline, the lifeline of a person’s immunity only with relevant persons immune system immune system strong will be stronger. Lifeline as long as possible, should be a bend of the parabola. Life Geli Fei sweat steaming health museum can not cross the end line down the middle along this line.
    20. by a 80-year-old count, the middle is the lifeblood of the age of 40, this calculation, where the pattern appears to show that you fork age at which the body will be a problem. (I have a fork in the final surface pattern)
    21. Lifeline of this region is inclusive of the basic region. The second line is the line of wisdom, wisdom lines encompassing this region (that is, four smart line hand finger joints below that area) is the acidic region. Distinguish the human body is acidic or alkaline depends on the size of the two regions. You can also see their fingers, when you find yourself in a round, thick fingers, the fingers are tight, which is alkaline. In contrast is the basic constitution.
    22. alkaline body of people prone to cancer or cancer in this area is likely larger. If women are acidic will have a cyst or gynecological disorders, some men are too acidic, the reproductive system will be very small.
    23. wisdom is of the parabolic line, and cardiovascular health. Wisdom is too short line of people, relatively straight strong temper. Wisdom of a long line of people, such people long to do more good work and scientific research, especially if the wisdom straight line, then the phenomenon will dizziness headache.
    24. The third line is the emotional line, emotional lines only with your respiratory system and digestive system of a relationship. Emotional deep and long lines of people and assigned to the middle finger and index finger point line, pay attention to their chest position, which is the respiratory system.
    25. doors up from the cut line, which is called the lifeline of the cause of the end of the line next to it, if the cause of line through the line of your wisdom and your emotions jump up the top line is called the cause, that do business relatively larger.
    26. palms sweat easily are kidney, yang wang, that is, virtual fire risk, so the president face acne
    27. hypothenar position if a line appears at the next extension , called the health line, and human health are related, if the straight line there will be a very deep serious illness, if the line through the emotions, your digestive system will have problems. If through a lifeline, if you or female, there will be on gynecological surgery, if a man, will have prostate problems. The teacher said this line is not the best, is no big health problems.
    28. there will be erected in the ring finger under the shaft of a line, called the elegant line, if this line is too short too close from the emotional line, then pay attention to low blood pressure, eat foods like red, too long, the family, the have high blood pressure.
    29. hypothenar is in the position of the bottom hand thumb will be a horizontal line, this line is called diabetic line, with the bad myself!
    30. ring finger to index finger, the middle line , called the perfect line. Also known as allergic line.
    31. there would be a little below the middle finger ring line, called the near line of sight, will affect a person’s liver and gallbladder function.
    32. occur within the emotional line of the horizontal line called the line of the second marriage, we must pay attention to your kidneys.
    33. little finger joints and the situation of the last geek Wei Wei of Hong Kong’s health will be feeling the side of the middle line of the grain pattern of some small, healthy people will have three. If a child from an early age there is no need to be aware of this line the reproductive system.
    34. palm that people are hereditary, personality and preferences and will have a genetic disease.
    35. When life became a three-line emotional intelligence
    36. If the hand of the color yellow, liver and gallbladder bad, so bad temper.
    37. wrist stripes, on both sides to the middle joint, is female, then, must be done gynecological surgery. Men, his urogenital system must have a problem. If this color dark blue veins swelled that the person or long-term constipation. Will have hemorrhoids.
    38. When the different parts of the palm of your hand is (The original in the Tic-Tac slowly becomes a serious pattern appears to show that you have acute inflammation in vivo, there will be m in the extended character pattern, is a chronic inflammation, m is the word pattern in the development triangle pattern, indicating that some part of the body is out of the I have a problem and needs treatment. Further down is the square pattern, parallelogram or square, show that you have received flawed or had surgery. The second pattern also shows that there Quartet and then the recovery phase of your inflammation will occur.
    39. Here is the emergence of lines must find a doctor for tests: the first, the ring pattern, indicating that young people, elderly people would have had the incurable disease. Second, the five-star pattern, the body must be severe in the body. Third, the Island line pattern, in which area it means that your body which have a problem.
    40. urine yellow and attention he might have kidney stones.
    41. middle finger will bend shows the beginning of your spine bent.
    42. fingers deep concave is acidic.
    43. palm length longer than the fingers of people Vanves, will make a fortune. This person is male and female phase, like the boy character, capacity must be stronger than your husband.
    44. plaques around the eyes, a long description of a bad stomach.
    45.
    teacher hands into the Style Box (see above), each owner of a local grid, from left to right, the top is innate, brain and lung, the second line is the liver and gallbladder, digestion and colon , the last line of the surface of the heart, reproductive and endocrine. Married women can use their own piece of the main reproductive grinding thumb, touch the small particles shows if you have u
    terine fibroids, and when the line pattern appears in the main island of the brain area, be sure to pay attention to stroke or paralysis, where a priori The skin is very dark, very physical level it means that your innate backward, blue or purple heart region who shows a bad heart (lung regions appear Island line pattern or cross the lines to pay attention to any of their respiratory system. Each region to the thumb-based, according to every part of you, if there is the phenomenon of pain Ma, corresponding organs on the problem.
    teacher finger the last operation first hand rub
    premise is, first, to the navel as the center, clockwise rubbing. Second, in the groin (thigh) rub up and down at (the most beneficial for women to reduce the incidence of gynecological diseases). Third, to the back, rubbing up and down is the location of the kidney, Yang Shen.
    teacher’s secret (a month or two hot boiled water)
    treatment of cardiovascular and diabetes:
    three wolfberry ten dates longan 2
    lower blood pressure:
    dates three wolfberry 10 Hawthorn 1

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  811. pohkdppxt January 7, 2012 at 3:27 am #

    ? ? cross ? ? ? ? ? ? arrogance ? ? Yuan ? Xiu ? ? door of an inner ant eggs ? beard ? ? Huan ? ? ? Yuan ? suddenly large belt ? Xuan ? ? Hua ? ? Zi ? ? ? Invite ? Seoul ? ? cross ? ? ? cease ? Zhu ? liver ? Thlaspi Li Yin ? ? ? ? ? transcript ? cheap ? ? Guang Yang scorpionfish ? suddenly betel ? fan Mang ? ? shark ? Yin ? ? ?? ? Zhuan ? ? ? ? ? solution Jiang ? Road ? ? Gan scorpionfish ? ?? ? the rim ? Hongqin ? ? ? ? lying ? ? door of an inner skin ? Zhi ? ? coverlet ? ? ?? ? Zhi ? ? cheap ? ? Duo ? ? meaning Zhua ? cheap ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? calcium ? Zhu ? ? door of an inner oyster ? Hun ? ? Xiu ? ? Sui oolitic ? ? Communicable ? ? ? ? ? calcium ? ?? ? ? Xi ? Lou ? ? Hongqin ? ? scorpionfish ? ? Yuan ? Huan ? ? ?? ? ? arrogance ? cheap ? ? ? Shang ? ?? ? Kun ? ? ? Chang ? Cong ? ? Chizhi ? Ronguu ? ? minutes ? ? arrogance ? Xu Yi ? Sui ? ? ? shark ? ?? ? suddenly large belt ? ? Pan ? Cong ? ? ? Ji ? Xiu ? ? Huan ? ? ? ? ? ? Thrush ? Hongqin ? ? Fu ? ? ? ? Zang Fen ? cross Lu ? ?? ? Lao ? ? Bao ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? generation ? spade ? ? ? ? ? cheap ? ? Bao ? ? ?? ? Zhi ? ? ? ? across ? ? Hu Lian Invite ? Seoul ? ? bitter Li ? Zhu mantis ? Sui ? ? ? screw ? ? ? ? bitter Li ? kohlrabi ? ? Sui ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Qiao enough ? ? Invite ? Seoul ? ? Xu Ran ? bamboo basket lair ? ? Mang ? ? Shang ? ? arrogance ? Sui longirostris ? ? ? ? ? Mang ? ? ? ? ? ant eggs ? cheap ? ? Guang Shen ? the rim ? ?? ? Fu Shen ? Xue ? ? ? seek ? Qin Invite ? Seoul ? ? ?? ? Xiu ? ? Xu ? ? lying skin ? ?? ? ?? ? ?? ? ? arrogance ? wren ? ? cross ? ? ? ? ? peptone muscle ? ? ? ? ? Invite ? Seoul ? ? ? ? ? Chuan Ying Zhong ? Kuang ? ? reel ? Wei ? ? cross ? ? Long ? ? ? ? ? ? scorpionfish ? Xiu ? ? error ? ? Guang raccoon ? ? distant ? ?? ? touch large belt ? ? ? ? Hongqin ? ? ? cross ? ? ?? ? door of an inner skin ? Yin ? ? error ? ? cross ? ? ? Ren ? ? Han ? ? hand ? cheap ? ? lying ? ? door ? ? Xuan ? ? cheap ? ? lying ? ? Wen Shi ? ?? ? ?? ? cross ? ? ? Ren ? ? ? ? ? Thrush ? Hongqin ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? calcium ? cheap ? ? peptone ? ? Yin ? ? Shepa ? cheap ? ? Xiu ? ? ?? ? ? pancreas ? ? ? ? ? Ci ? Zhu ? ? ? ? ? ? Ti ? dark bell ? ?? ? ? arrogance ? ?? ? If cease ? Duo ? ? wrestle ? ? thulium ? ? ? arrogance ? ?? ? ?? ? ? Mang ? ? ? ? swallow ? ? Boschniakia glabra ? ? ? ? ? Zhi ? ? ?? ? harmonic arrogance ? ?? ? ? ? ? Duo ? ? Dai calcium ? ?? ? Ling ? ? ? Yuan ? Hong Qin ? ? ? Lou ? ? ? Rong ? ? Shao ? ? Ju ? Zhi ? ? ? large belt ? ? ? ? Xian ? ? Yi arrogance ? ? Yuan ? Cong ? ? ? Chi ? Xiu ? ? ?? ? ? You ? bitter Er ? ?? ? kohlrabi ? ? lying Xiu ? benzene ? ? Xue ? ? ? Thrush ? Guang ? ? ? You ? Zang arrogance ? Hongqin ? ? ? cross ? ? Zhong ? ? Uu arrogance ? heron demise ? distant spiral ? ? ? ? Zhi ? ? ? Uu ? Yan ? ? ? arrogance ? ? ? ? Hongqin ? ? ? cross ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? cheap ? ? ?? ? cheap ? ? ? perch ? Xiaoban ? Ling ? ? cheap ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Ji scorpionfish ? Ran debate ? ? Invite ? Seoul ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Chang ? cheap ? ? ?? ? Chan arrogance ? ? Yuan ? ? ?? ? Un Chau Fu pants ? ? cross ? ? ?? ? taut ? ? touch Ju ? Yun ? ? ? ? ? Hongqin ? ? ? cross ? ? ?? ? Yin ? ? Congli ? Fu ? ? ? ? ? Congli ? ?? ? ?? ? ? Sa ? ?? ? Hongqin ? ?? cross ? ? Kuanghu ? Fu Ju ? ? Ken ? ? Mang ? cross ? ? Kuanghui ? Suiyou ? Hua Jiao ? Huan ? ? collar ? ? skin ? Dong Xu Jiao ? details Xiu ? ? Ren ? Sui longirostris ? ?? ? bang Yu ? Qin ? ? Xiushang ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? roll ? Bao scorpionfish ? ? Mang ? ? ? ? ? skin ? Yin ? ? ? calcium ? Ling ? ?

  812. fgmgrbbah January 8, 2012 at 8:04 pm #

    One day, a crow and a sparrow , two brothers on the branch chat. Sparrow : , I was the boiler ,Ralph Lauren Sale! also too small .

  813. fgmgrbbah January 8, 2012 at 8:06 pm #

    ,Soldes Abercrombie Fitch

  814. fgmgrbbah January 8, 2012 at 8:07 pm #

    1. I use a sack of money for college, for a sack of books; graduated with these books for cash, but can not afford a sack.

    2. University as the school gate of the bus, ride, go back again and again, it is another beginning of a semester; ride, do not go back to graduate. .

    3. What is the alma mater? That is the day you call him eight times but not allowed to criticize someone else’s place

    4. graduated we quietly look back, only to find this mix on the University of finished! !

    5. graduated, somewhat miss the days before the

    6. University of getting up from me, wearing pants, told me:

    7. holding a college acceptance letter to sleep, wakes up to find notices into a graduation certificate to prove that I have slept here

    8. with four years for a heart memories forever

    9. leaves out of the wind or the tree does not retain passionate; your life, my school is still urging youth not to stay

    10. one is going to graduate his words would be good

    11. those flowers, graduation will not be opened

    12. nice weather today and tomorrow there is no class. . . After all gone. . .

    13. I cried coming, we all laughed; I smiled and left, we cried! Hey! This is the University of …

    14. playing cards ah! A lack of three!

    15. looking at the empty houses and cabinet have always felt that I had left what you left my thoughts

    16. graduated, only to find college students is the best job.

    17. What is the alma mater? Anxious when you first came to leave early,Soldes Abercrombie Fitch, you can really eager to go when they want to stay for a day or two. . .

    18. young lazy fell, a nightmare, as in ambush in the loss of youth, like the exposed wound inflammation and ulceration burst

    19. Many years later, we called this summer,

    20. no longer have to skip class because no class of ~ ~

    21. a few people with the same key to open the same door. A few people with the same eyes, with the empty bedroom to say goodbye.

    22. graduated, those who do not care about people and things, and now want how precious …

    23. and universities say goodbye, but not with the youth say goodbye

    24. parting is an aloof cloud, rain, fell in love with her alma mater, the land

    25. We play to win, lose, there has been terrible!

    26. if not personally see you go, I have to face the direction you go looks into the distance

    27. University of years long experience, has long hair

  815. fgmgrbbah January 8, 2012 at 8:09 pm #

    0 ~ 10-year-old child height and weight standards of tables (the latest international standards) ,True Religion Jeans

    weight (in kg)
    height (in cm)
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    male female male
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    female
    01 ?
    3.6-5.0
    2.7-3.6
    48.2 -52.8
    47.7-52.0
    02 ?
    4.3-6.0
    3.4-4.5
    52.1-57.0
    51.2-55.8
    03 ?
    5.0-6.9 4.0-5.4
    55.5-60.7
    54.4-59.2
    04 ?
    5.7-7.6
    4.7-6.2
    58.5-63.7
    57.1-59.5
    05 ?
    6.3-8.2
    5.3-6.9
    61.0-66.4
    59.4-64.5
    06 ?
    6.9-8.8
    6.3-8.1
    65.1-70.5
    63.3-68.6
    08 ?
    7.8-9.8
    7.2-9.1
    68.3-73.6
    66.4-71.8
    10 ?
    8.6-10.6
    7.9-9.9 71.0-76.3
    69.0-74.5
    12 ?
    9.1-11.3
    8.5-10.6
    73.4-78.8
    71.5-77.1
    15 months
    9.8- 12.0
    9.1-11.3
    76.6-82.3
    74.8-80.7
    18 months
    10.3-12.7
    9.7-12.0
    79.4-85.4
    77.9-84.0 21 months
    10.8-13.3
    10.2-12.6
    81.9-88.4
    80.6-87.0
    2-year-old
    11.2-14.0
    10.6-13.2
    84.3-91.0
    83.3-89.8
    2.5-year-old
    12.1-15.3
    11.7-14.7
    88.9-95.8
    87.9-94.7
    3-year-old
    13.0-16.4
    12.6 -16.1
    91.1-98.7
    90.2-98.1
    3.5-year-old
    13.9-17.6
    13.5-17.2
    95.0-103.1
    94.0-101.8
    4 years 14.8-18.7
    14.3-18.3
    98.7-107.2
    97.6-105.7
    4.5-year-old
    15.7-19.9
    15.0-19.4
    102.1-111.0
    100.9- 109.3
    5-year-old
    16.6-21.1
    15.7-20.4
    105.3-114.5
    104.0-112.8
    5.5-year-old
    17.4-22.3
    16.5-21.6
    108.4-117.8
    106.9-116.2
    6-year-old
    18.4-23.6
    17.3-22.9
    111.2-121.0
    109.7-119.6
    7-year-old
    20.2 -26.5
    19.1-26.0
    116.6-126.8
    115.1-126.2
    8-year-old
    22.2-30.0
    21.4-30.2
    121.6-132.2
    120.4-132.4 9
    24.3-34.0
    24.1-35.3
    126.5-137.8
    125.7-138.7
    10-year-old
    26.8-38.7
    27.2-40.9
    131.4-143.6
    131.5-145.1

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  816. fgmgrbbah January 8, 2012 at 8:10 pm #

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  817. fgmgrbbah January 8, 2012 at 8:12 pm #

    inch wide heart, benefit the heart wide road on the third
    wide, narrow road on a narrow
    heart ; not fight, can naturally be able to be the people’s respect
    tolerance, a tolerance Baian
    Love your enemies, revenge is the most noble tolerance
    learn to adapt to others, do not expect others to adapt their
    no significant mountain dew, covered up
    the smart people-friendly, others can be friendly and treat you
    ; help others who will get others to help solve the problem

    and is expensive to be good at uniting people around
    convergence when the convergence of the Tolerance Tolerance
    have a bearing when life not ill-treat others with magnanimity into the
    to be kind, so good side forever
    diameter narrow place, to stay one step with the People’s Bank
    ; sake of others, is to fulfill his
    less angry. More disappointing than the mentality of a good life is good

    To change your world, first change your mind
    how high you can fly, all your mind from the constraints life is good as a good attitude
    placed himself lucky attitude
    good point on, everything will change for the better
    attitude adjustment, the pain into energy
    know how to balance the mind, less trouble than others
    choose the most positive aspect of life
    mentality is the key to success and failure, rather than what IQ
    have the mentality of what future there
    control mentality, do not let attitude control You
    To succeed in business, 85% by the attitude of the most important
    optimistic attitude
    anything bad even then, there is an upside
    live in heaven or hell, depending on your attitude
    not change the past, but can change the current
    learn to relax, life is easy
    good mood to relax from the beginning of self-control
    Do not let others live their own spiritual
    methods, live You can feel the situation is different
    unhappy, but the mind can not lower themselves from a bad mood
    freed
    cool down is to get a good feel of the magic
    good mood from the feeling like a landscape, to know how to appreciate
    asking for trouble trying to get rid of open-minded to bring the plight of
    health
    learn to relax, life is easy
    treat yourself, that is responsible for
    brave life to break the unfounded, unhelpful
    sorrow turned into joy
    learn to lose what distress can not lose his mind
    tolerance, do not make life difficult for
    control their emotions and can control the situation in a bad mood is
    happy
    learn to control their feelings
    not rash, adaptable
    impetuosity not to be guilty should not be
    surrounded
    emotional pain to find the leverage
    removed themselves from the release of tension out
    eliminate fantasy, keep the mind open
    out of the cycle of sadness and depression
    suppress anger, emotional balance
    relaxation of mind, there is no base suspicion
    not control their emotions, learn to use strain
    sense of balance, the face of ordinary life
    learn to enjoy the wonderful life

    good day every day life more flavor, taste Gan Yi
    stop living life in the United States sentiment live their lives, do not mind other people’s opinions
    To endure the pain of life
    a little more love, a little more spice of life
    music, will add color to your life cherish life, know how precious life
    simple life, away from the battle with the noisy
    create a new life for themselves
    do not care the age, good spirits live every day passionate
    life, from the ordinary experience of sweet
    properly manage the money, not to be aware of money by controlling
    work aims not only to the situation of their own money
    peace of mind
    habits a small step, a big life change
    create happiness, the happiness in his hands is a happiness

    I’m alive in the hands grasp the happiness is real happiness
    tried to make her first up pain and pleasure just a wall
    learn to create their own happiness
    who can seize the happy, happy
    choose who will be able to get happy, you happy
    self-sufficiency, well-being of the most important factor is
    happiness in the life of every little thing in practice often
    happy, happy you will be able to
    from ordinary life experience joy
    no one is perfect, Do not defect when regret always choose to look forward
    sensible manner, to give up
    chic to make the right choice, learn to grasp the fate
    sensible manner, to give up
    smartly did not give up there will be new harvest
    willing homes in order to get more sensible to give up is the life
    attitude to be adopted
    is neglected,True Religion Jeans, and Gains
    know how to put down, do not sensibly should not be the
    give up more valuable than ignorance to insist
    its conservative, it is better to forswear
    do not know how to let go, it is possible to lose more
    have the wrong choice, there will be wrong to give up empty life
    goals, choose their own
    not stubborn, select the white lies
    practical efforts to give opportunistic attitude
    To understand fish and can not have both
    believe in yourself, confidence in life the most beautiful Confidence is the core strength of success
    correct evaluation of their own, not always self-deprecating
    have the courage and spirit of the first fight
    believe in yourself, confidence in life the most beautiful
    cherish, Do not care about other people’s views
    first believe in yourself, then others will believe you
    overcome low self-esteem, develop self-confidence have been beyond

    master of its own self-confidence, I believe they are the best self-understanding, self-confidence to master the understanding of self
    six steps
    people do not have confidence in depression, frustration
    strive to become the protagonist of life
    life there is no
    contempt into difficulties, in order to overcome the difficulties of life there is no real impasse

    as setbacks for wealth, success will crown
    never bow to the harsh environment
    doom comes, To select a strong position to face no matter how
    . Must learn to be responsible for
    difficult conditions, to forge a determination of the character
    best response is to solve problems
    more ways to look at it, do not hang in a tree
    not for losers excuses

  818. fgmgrbbah January 8, 2012 at 8:19 pm #

    Seeing is believing !

    the following ? ? pictures through treatment!

    long as this log

    to their own space, pictures of these

    beauty will strip their clothes.

    below ? this image through treatment!

    as long as this log!

    to their own space, her hand would get open!

    woman does not love a man is not bad! Women are not men do not look cheap!

    there are a few woman really would like is a good man like us, it? Look I want to write it!
    -year-old before, do not say, is nothing more than naughty and naive.
    thirteen or fourteen, when the girl began to have a good impression, but then he is far away from the girl, and to hate the girl
    itself, for fear of ridicule by their peers.
    15 years old, I heard people say such and such a big man good to spend, his girlfriend broke up, the girl committed suicide. He felt that this person
    really vicious, their future must be a lovestruck man, a man must love life.
    the age of sixteen, he liked a girl, but he did not dare, and she said. Still, as usual, dirty
    dust flying in to play on the playground. Only girl out of school time, hiding in the terms of the second floor windows of her back,
    he felt that she must be an angel.
    seventeen years old, a girl in love with him, but he is far away from her, his heart only you girl,
    he felt that other girls are looking for her infidelity.
    eighteen years old, saw a MTV, moved to cry, he thought, if the girls lose their eyes, he must
    actor will not hesitate to give her own eyes, so that She can see the light.
    19 years old when the college entrance examination. And his crush on the girl finally were, take the train to school, feel more and more distant from her
    heart was emptied as the same. Still want to own will not forget her, until after a
    set their own success to find her.
    two years old, I heard someone tell dirty jokes, I feel that people are really shameful.
    21 years old, her reply told him that he had a boyfriend. Secretly cried all night.
    twenty-two, he confession to a girl, the girl said,
    23, when, he said he is also a small girl and a guy in love. He wondered, could this
    grow old fast.
    24, when a girl He also confession, the girl said,
    25 years old when he was pursuing a girl, the girl accepted him. He started very well for the future of hard work, he
    thought, a moment of fun is only temporary, only hard work, he and she can have a happy future, but,sacs moncler, after six months to
    , the girl broke up with him. Just because the other boy would say to make her happy, then. The girl said,
    26, he began to fall, to pay users. Dress up fashion and cool, and gradually learning the words to please the girl
    . Soon, he had a girlfriend, although he is also very good for her, but he knew that he does not love her
    .
    27 years old, he and the girl broke up. He told the girl
    29, he learned to tell jokes, and to look for the next fun girls blush.
    three-year-old, he suddenly found himself becoming very capable pursue to the girl, but there is no capacity for love. In
    QQ, he wrote in his following words
    ******************************** ****************
    In fact, every boy who would want to do a specific feeling good man.
    In fact, every boy, girl is the point of view to see the face rather than the chest.
    In fact, every boy who would not tell dirty jokes.
    In fact, every boy who would desire to love a person until forever.
    only, no girl love this boy, they think this boy is too naive, Pacific plate, no fun.
    So the boy began to change and become like the kind of girl nasty mouth hung

    cynical laughter or humor
    learn to say sweet heart want to say rather than learn to pretend
    care, learn to send the girl to please her trinkets
    learn how to pursue, how to make love.
    or disillusioned, game in love and become the kind of man a woman bitterly
    they can easily capture the hearts of girls
    but they will cry in the dark of night, smoking his heart there is love
    time, no girl
    with girls, but never had the feeling of love
    to hear women complain there is no such a good man when they do not go trying to do
    good man, just a smile pass!

    posts do not see the back, paralyzed!

    poor female patient was raped strong …… the whole process! (Absolute reading will faint)

    9-year-old boy to rape 20-year-old street girl … rub =- =, welcome to reprint!

    the young man hacked to death his girlfriend this street love worth it (Photos)

    strongest in the history of Internet! Cost immeasurable! Also accompany the chicken! (With map)

    you can copy up this little girl, you are not satisfied with the computer expert had come to see!

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    90. after

    hotel with a condom, regret dead, after the killing would not have a

    a couple trapped in a cave, boyfriend, girlfriend actually eat (terrorist)

    17-year-old daughter home for the night with her boyfriend hurt his mother

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  819. okoxzrbt January 9, 2012 at 11:40 pm #

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  824. youmouyixia January 11, 2012 at 2:21 am #

       According to Taiwan "in the Canton News" reported on the 8th, the British Government is prepared to approve a project quite Yin Zhengyi, that between London and Birmingham, Jian Xing a high-speed rail.
       This is expected to spend 17 billion pounds of high-speed rail will be between 2016 to 2026, built after the completion of these two cities so that travel time to 49 minutes. After the railway will be extended north to Manchester and Leeds, forming a Y-shaped high-speed rail. Estimated total cost of the £ 32 billion or so. long dress
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  826. wylfsxns January 12, 2012 at 10:51 pm #

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  827. youmouyixia January 13, 2012 at 2:34 am #

       Local officials said last week the outbreak of racial violence in Southern Sudan, more than 3,000 people were massacred, tens of thousands of people from their homes.
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  828. hidaynwz January 13, 2012 at 9:42 am #

    Girls take the initiative and articles you on the road
    cotton strangers, do not give silly not pull grumble phone number, you will be harassed to death SMS phone.
    do not present themselves in court more than drink, it is a man Finger Guessing Game with people drinking, people who truly care about you will not see you drink drunk. Cinderella and Prince Charming goodbye
    daydreaming it, your foot is not so small, do not wear it into the glass slipper.
    a razor to her boyfriend’s money to buy imports, it is better to give Dad a pair of socks, his mother make you wear socks a few times, your attention yet.
    have taken a stable job, make more money, women must be financially independent, have an independent personality, to prevent later became Nora, Nora Lu Xun’s grandfather said after leaving either back, or become a prostitute.
    middle-aged men, specifically wealthy, singing and clubbing you to dinner, refused it, but you calculated them.
    the man who betrayed you want to go back to its no.
    You have betrayed the man you look back, it say no.
    learn some clothes with, not to red to accompany a good Sibu Si purple dress to go out. For the naive young man when
    of your vows, laugh it off it, he said these words certainly did not go through the brain.
    big stick to principles, learn to work small.
    no need to fight a red face and her boyfriend, you are right, he will think you are assertive or aggressive ?????, you are wrong, he will think you are causing trouble forever.
    have money to buy a necklace of upscale, better than watching people wearing fake jade pieces taste.
    Sassy Girl Do not beat your man motionless school, and broke no substitute for your anti-rice bags.
    Do not fall in love with a married man, so his wife and children and old parents, the entire family, you will die miserable.
    to be a physical examination every year, especially the liver, kidney, breast.
    occasionally and her mother cook, and sister friend is always much ado about nothing more than feasting together more fun.
    for you really want to marry her boyfriend, to be loyal.
    Do not think you play other people’s feelings, the opponent may be higher than you Daoxing.
    want to marry him, to do the security measures; do not want to marry him, to do more safety measures.
    stop when the paycheck to paycheck, you should learn to save more dowry money. Do not buy old
    drink instant coffee at home, and occasionally run to Starbucks, he will think you know how to live.
    always remember, and not black and white boys with no online games, belongs only to college.
    unless really necessary, no need to replace the latest mobile phones from time to time, otherwise people will think you are selling mobile phones.
    about the physical condition of the parents.
    at least at this time you have sheets of the driver’s license, whether you have a car.
    ambiguous at least one of the opposite sex and your friends (not the kind of sexual relations), both the spiritual treasure chest that you can be when the spirit of the trash.
    boyfriend and girlfriend do not get too close behind their children will suffer the curse sister.
    Do not expect your boyfriend to make money home cook well versed, he was not Superman’s underwear can be worn on the outside.
    not repeatedly stressed after the wedding of your boyfriend must be filial to your parents, and even threatened to take their parents to live with, so my husband and father-in-law get along with people is mutual, if he can pick his own parents to, your home will be too busy than expected.
    not to mention marriage began to get along, do not you twice refused to marry her boyfriend.
    do not think you have to find in this life or Tony Terry Gou, because you are not Carina Lau.
    Do not look years younger than their more than boys, because you are not Faye Wong.
    buy insurance, if the units do a social security, would not have had.
    buy practical things to my mother, she would have to spend several hundred times more than that.
    have their own time to the SPA as accompanied her to the bath, rubbing her back. Going
    everything, but do not give up.
    Do not give yourself too much pressure, do not learn to do an aggressive woman, you will become increasingly lonely.
    have any extra money, you can consider to buy a house, get married by the boyfriend’s house may not be entirely the burden.
    without the men look too complicated, and people often complicate each other, of course, not when they are idiots.
    not always pestering her boyfriend, leaving him some space, will be deeper feelings.
    nothing to see her boyfriend’s parents, curry favor with his useful than simply the more.
    boyfriend more then than you can be proud of capital, will be considered out of touch.
    good for her boyfriend is not an artificial thing, especially when many people, call for her boyfriend to drink, he would be no children face, it will only make people think you are not products.
    you at this time a longer idler, no one will praise you are a good girl.
    should not think smoking is very attractive, the skin is not good, but looked very dust.
    If you have read, so often to see the book, to raise my self-cultivation.
    serious work but do not look down on your sister who earn little children, people bowl of noodles, are hard-earned money myself.
    Do not show off in front of friends and think they do (this is very offensive).
    care about one o’clock national affairs it, let alone Russia or President Putin, politics is not just a man thing.
    often concerned about your boyfriend, but care does not mean nagging plus monitor.
    and her boyfriend went out for dinner, not because he is a girl, you do not want to pay, you think he should be divided, what ah, you did not eat another thing.
    learn make-up bar, makeup, beauty is to fight age, you will soon no this advantage.
    most men believe that women should at the same attractive and day ***.
    If you did not appearance forest sister is so talented and life experience, do not shed tears at every turn, even if you do a Burying the Flowers, estimated forest you do not want to step sister vomiting followed, the key is to treasure my brother finally married someone else .
    to retain at least a healthy hobby, such as: swimming, jogging, table tennis etc., remember that shopping is not.
    do not envy the good sister who have more children than you, their minds trouble and this number is directly proportional.
    Never assume someone else’s husband is better than yours, because they do not love you.
    care about the hair right, wore a bad grass, make-up also color it up.
    more flights of fancy your boyfriend, your word is perhaps his power, will bring you cost-effective.
    want to continue to develop the best boyfriend to bring their parents to see the old man’s sharp eyes sometimes do better than you.
    man swearing not to learn, and you are not a small Tai Mei, will become the old woman’s sister.
    proud to plan carefully to eat snacks ashamed.
    clothes do not change a day, gorgeously dressed people get dizzy.
    and her boyfriend boyfriend to maintain a certain distance, too far he would say you do not warm to his friends, too close to the thing may become significant.
    not any one thing, any man, worthy of you up at night or on the street, got drunk, or buy sleeping pills.
    woman, dressed children on those years, after the fight is not just the face Daoxing.
    always elegant smile.
    articles
    bar boys know a woman, probably no need to stay on the phone.
    good drink alcohol, does not mean drinking spit ?? drink, the quantity accounted for a boss.
    farewell fall in love, compared to the family described object can still see, after all, know too much more to grasp, and avoid detours.
    Valentine’s weekend with th
    e money bubble midnight, it is better to buy fruit to buy his mother a la carte, while now the son wants his parents still.
    make more money, but not many who took a fancy to you, you will find it just took a fancy to the point of your money.
    middle-aged woman, the strength of powerful than you, or to choose no. Because you must pay will be more than get.
    You have betrayed the woman you look back, it say no.
    wearing fake brand-name, as a casual, but to clean.
    For a young woman when done wrong to promise, you have to have the courage to go against it.
    big stick to principles, learn to work small.
    no need to fight a red face and his girlfriend, she was wrong, you make, and she will be grateful to you, in fact, she knew she was not unreasonable.
    have money to buy blocks of a good table, they have the neck than in the add of a thick gold chain refers to people looking at taste.
    Do not people want to use force to solve the problem, you are not Tyson, not CHAN Ho-nam.
    Do not fall in love with the woman home, one day you will feel that they are an idiot.
    to be a physical examination every year, especially the liver, lung, stomach, and blood pressure.
    occasional knee to knee, and his father drink wine, is always better than a bunch of fair-weather friends together, got drunk, and more fun.
    for you really want to marry his girlfriend, to be loyal.
    Do not think you play other people’s feelings, the opponent may be higher than you Daoxing.
    love her, to do the security measures; not love her, to do more safety measures.
    stop when the paycheck to paycheck, you should learn to save some money.
    seventeen-year-old called Xiaojiu money, no cards, no money, no more than 25 cards called no sense of security.
    always remember, games and mahjong called entertainment, not to indulge.
    unless really necessary, most people usually do not need to buy a 8888 quadruple number. Otherwise, see you the people will think you are selling the card.
    about the physical condition of the parents.
    at least at this time you have sheets of the driver’s license, whether you have a car.
    N a fair-weather friends, and not as a true man of your utter devotion.
    not easily borrow money, and do not easily lend someone money, unless you do not, pointing to his still. Do not get along
    began to ask your girlfriend to cook well versed in, got married she will naturally do this for you.
    not stressed after the wedding your girlfriend must be filial to your parents, people is mutual, as long as you do, she would of.
    not to mention marriage began to get along, and do not place a year not to mention marriage.
    do not think you have to find Cecilia in this life or Michelle Reis, because you are not Chow Yun Fat.
    do not find more than five years younger than their girls, if you are not a lot of money.
    buy insurance, if the units do a social security, would not have had.
    spend a dollar to his mother the mother’s smile is bright from the heart.
    have their own sauna time to bubble as to accompany his father to take a bath, rubbing him back. Going
    everything, but do not give up.
    Do not give yourself too much pressure, do not learn to Lijia Cheng, Li Jiacheng did not know he would be today’s Lijia Cheng.
    have any extra money, you can consider to buy a house. Even if only enough to pay a down payment.
    need to look at a woman too complicated, and people often complicate each other, of course, not when they are idiots.
    Do not wait until Valentine’s Day,bracelet monster energy, before they agree to spend three to five hundred flowers, usually a piece of chocolate, she would grin.
    and his girlfriend have the money to open a room, it is better kept down, holidays, trips out with the tour, the feelings will be deeper.
    home to help his girlfriend change light bulbs, buy a set of sometimes girlfriend than to SK2 also more affordable.
    girlfriend more then not you can be proud of capital, will be considered Laodabuxiao not a proper business.
    not an knock on his girlfriend to take advantage of a good thing, especially when many people, drink to call his girlfriend, only make people think you are not products.
    you at this time a longer idler, no one will praise you are prodigal son.
    not the source of life today, tomorrow, China, as fixed in the large cloud of standards every day.
    If you are the following secondary education, regardless of Self or correspondence, or to improve what one day will return. Do not look down on you
    decent work buddies, they find the object, than you are qualified.
    not do Do not promise things, promised, and if you can, or strive to achieve. Men reputation is very important.
    specific point it, nothing bad.
    often concerned about your girlfriend, but care does not mean wear a few.
    do not believe women like AA, when the pay or buy, men readily or very attractive.
    do not think you can not pay attention to the image of a man, a woman is not blind.
    most women think men most attractive when carefully, whether it is serious work or serious ****.
    man’s tears can flow properly used with good results. More than normal flow, the result makes the nausea.
    News practical must-see, even if it is not something you can have the final say, but you have to understand.
    to retain at least a healthy hobby, such as: swimming, soccer, fitness, basketball and so on.
    who do not envy the iron sub than you, they trouble their minds and this number is directly proportional.
    Never assume someone else’s better than your wife, because she is after all not your wife.
    bright polished shoes or some of it, even if it is not famous, but also have more than one foot of mud AIDD pleasing to the eye.
    more flights of fancy to your girlfriend, even if it is false heart, her good mood, you can a lot easier.
    want to continue to develop the best girlfriend to bring her mother to see the old man’s sharp eyes sometimes do better than you. QQ chat
    have time to see as much news.
    clothes do not change a day, but do not for one week once.
    and his girlfriend’s girlfriend to keep a certain distance, too far away she would say you do not warm to her friends, too close to the thing may become significant.
    Never praise your girlfriend’s girlfriend, that would be her most taboo thing, it is best not to evaluate.
    not any one thing, any woman, worthy of your overnight or heavy drinker.

  829. uponrnun January 13, 2012 at 2:33 pm #

    picture Who is to say I like to see 6 -dimensional left
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  830. youmouyixia January 14, 2012 at 7:25 pm #

       Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mahemanpala Manchester 7 that the U.S. Navy rescued 13 Somali pirates hijacked by the Iran hostage action is humanitarian act.
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    son to the United States to study, settle in the United States after graduation. Back I found a foreign wife Susan. Today, grandson Toby has been 3 years old. This summer, my son applied for a visitor’s visa. Spent three months in the United States, foreign wife Susan ways to educate their children, so my Chinese mother eye-opener.

    not eat on an empty

    every morning, Toby woke up, Susan to the breakfast table one place, they just keep running around tending to the. Toby climb on their own stool, drink milk and eat bread. Eat, he returned to his room, in the closet looking for clothes, shoes, and then put on their own. Toby, after all, only 3 years old, children are still not clear positive and negative, can not distinguish left and right foot shoes. Toby once again the anti-wear pants, and I quickly stepped forward to help him change, Susan was stopped. She said that if he felt uncomfortable, will themselves off and re-dressed; if he did not feel any discomfort, it will be with him. Of that day, Toby anti-wear pants running around like Susan did not see the same.

    again, Toby went out and the neighborhood children to play, no more running out of breath home to the General Assembly, to Susan, said: Lucy is a neighbor girl, 5 years old this year. Susan smiled and said: Since then, Toby never wearing pants versa.

    reminds me of my granddaughter 56 years old will not use chopsticks, elementary school will not tie his shoe. Now in her junior high school on boarding, take home every weekend to do a lot of dirty clothes.

    day at noon, Toby spirits, refused to eat. Susan said his few words, Toby, a little angrily pushed the plate to the ground, throwing a plate of food in one place. Susan looked at Toby, said seriously: laughed within herself, this mother and son, but also all kind of dead!

    afternoon, Susan and I talk, the evening I make Chinese food. I take the hint, Toby farewell eat Chinese food, it must be noon Susan Toby did not feel good to eat, let him eat more at night.

    display cooking that night I did a Toby favorite Sweet and Sour Pork, shrimp oil boring, but also pasta made with Chinese-style noodles. Toby likes to eat the kind of cold noodles, small people can eat a big plate full.

    start dinner, and Toby climbed joy stool. Susan has came and took away his plate and knife and fork, said: to cry in tears, weeping, said:

    I feel bad, and want to make Toby mitigation, say a good word, I was surprised to find his son a wink. Remember when I first came to the United States, his son told me that, in the United States, parents educate their children, others do not intervene, even the elders are no exception. Helpless, I had to remain silent.

    meal, from start to finish, poor little Toby has been sitting on toy car, the three of us adults looked on helplessly devoured. I realized I do lunch Susan’s real intention. I believe that next time, Toby would like to throw temper jobs, we must think of their stomachs to see Mom and Dad and Grandma enjoy gourmet experience. Hungry for the taste of a bad experience, or face Moreover, their favorite food.

    before going to sleep, with my whereabouts and Susan Toby good night. Toby carefully asked: After sleep Open your eyes to sleep, you can eat? Toby Tiantiandixiao up.

    most cases, Toby eat very positive, because he did not want to Every time I see Toby eating, breathing hard, his face sticky mouth are food, I think granddaughter. She is like Toby so much, in order to coax her to eat, a few adults holding jobs with her behind him, she did not buy it, but also on the conditions: eating a bowl of buying a toy, eat a bowl of buying a toys … …

    eye for an eye, but also their human body

    One day, we took Toby to the park. Soon, Toby on the kitchen and the two girls playing the game. Plastic pot, a small shovel, small plate,sacs moncler, small bowl placed over the ground. Suddenly, Toby picked up the pot naughty, hit his head hard on a girl a bit, the girl froze for a moment, burst into tears. Another smaller number of young girls, see more cases, have been scared to cry. Toby did not think so probably there will be serious consequences, stood, stunned.

    Susan stepped forward, opening and cleaning the whole matter, she silent, pick up the pot, hard knock to the head of Toby, Toby did not prepare, suddenly fell to the grass , and cried together. Susan Toby asked: I believe he’ll never do that.

    Toby’s uncle presented him with a small light blue bicycle, Toby is like as a baby, not allowed to touch others. Neighbor girl Lucy is a good friend Toby, Toby begged several times to ride to his car, Toby did not agree.

    time, with several children to play, while Toby not pay attention to Lucy, secretly ride the car, and sped away. Toby discovered, Susan angrily came to complain. Susan is the mother of several children and chat with a cup of coffee, he smiled and said:

    After a little while, Lucy riding a car back. Toby saw Lucy, one of her fall to the ground, grabbed the car. Lucy sat on the ground and burst into tears. Susan picked up Lucy, to appease her for a while. Soon, Lucy and the other children to play happily together.

    Toby will be riding a car, feel a little bored, saw a few children play so happy, he wanted to join, and feel a little embarrassed. He rubs up against Susan around, muttered: When her side, and turned back. Back and forth several times, do not know when to begin, Toby and Lucy and wreathed in smiles, downtown into a group.

    things parents discipline their children

    Susan’s parents live in California, I heard that I came, they drove to visit us. Home to the guests, Toby is very excited, run up and down to earth rampant. He used to play with sand pail filled with water, put the keg in the house walking around. Susan warned her several times, do not sprinkle water on the floor, Toby ignored. Finally, Toby, or the bucket prostrate, and the water spilled over the floor. Excited little Toby do not feel something wrong, but also proud to play barefoot tread water, the pants all wet. I quickly find the mop ready to mop. Susan grabbed the mop from my hands to Toby, he said: Susan apart from anything else, directly to the storage room he pulled, closed confinement. Toby heard crying inside earth-shattering issue, I feel bad bad, want to go put him out. Toby’s grandmother has stopped me, saying: He picked up two high with his mop the floor struggling to drag the water clean. Then he took off his pants, carry in their hands and bare ass into the toilet, splinters from washing clothes.

    Toby’s grandparents, I looked surprised expression, meaningful smile. This thing that made me very well. In many Chinese families, the parents discipline their children, often lead to

    Later, I and Toby’s grandparents to chat, he mentioned this, Toby’s grandfather said some words, I was very impressed. He said that the child is a parent’s children, we must first respect the parents of the child’s education. Although small children, but it is a natural diplomat, when he saw the differences between family members, he will be very clever loophole. This is not only to improve his behavior no benefit, but will lead to increasingly serious problem, and even more other problems. Moreover, conflicts between family members, family atmosphere of discord more children will bring insecurity, psychological development of children’s negative impact. Therefore, both the parents and grandparents in the child’s education on the issue of disagreement, or husband and wife are different concepts of education, are not in front of children in conflict.

    Toby’s grandparents lived at home for a week, ready to return to California a. Two days before leaving, Toby’s grandfather solemnly asked his daughter: give him a pair of roller skates as a gift to Christmas, to buy him a gift toy excavator it! Toby go to the supermarket, he pointed to the toy excavator, said: Although Susan

    so strict on Toby, Toby love to go but then my mother very, very. He was out playing, it will collect some nice flowers or leaves he thinks beautiful, solemnly gave her mother; others gave him a gift, he would call my mother and him apart; what good is also to the mother to stay half the total.
    think a lot of Chinese children’s ignorance and indifference of parents, I had to admire my foreign wife. In my opinion, the child’s education, the United States Chinese mothers have much to learn from her mother.

    Fanfan Note: although not yet married, but after all, to the age, will begin to consider the family, children and education. China is now some deformity, maybe not you and I and other small people can reverse this situation. However, after 90 adverse criticism, had to lesson. So I started to collect some of the world in different countries, different beliefs, different lifestyles of the different philosophy of education to learn to think in the end how to do a competent parent. Some people may Qiaobu Shang method of education abroad, but you sowed the chin, nose contempt with the education of others, make good think about:

    you want your child to be what kind of person?

    education you can become your child what kind of person? ?

    education, not the innocent can be smooth!

    Do not use the child’s life is ignorance and stubbornness you buy!

  834. fgmgrbbah January 15, 2012 at 7:36 pm #

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    suddenly remembered the past ,.

    but time does not allow me to look back , . it looked like before the take ..

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    left these days , you miss me , something all right , and I send messages ..

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    Arrest coherent action is a kind of boxing hit techniques, anti-hitting technology and technology-based integrated catch practice, the Armed Police Force will study subjects. Arrest boxing exercises can often skilled action essentials, exercise coordination and flexibility, enhanced offensive and defensive ability to hit. Arrest boxing with Qiantao difference is: exclude rigid old-fashioned action, enhance the combat effectiveness, so that trainees in all parts of the body has been full of play and the specific embodiment.
    Arrest 1-16 boxing boxing action break action 16 Arrest
    move – the starting position
    Ready position: on the basis of the stand at attention to hear As shown below:

    Rissho fighting style

    one straight blow
    cross-kick action essentials: Left straight boxing, then the right Zhiquan, then the right cross-kick, step right foot drop, a straight left (not back), right fist placed on the lower jaw, eyes straight ahead. As shown below:
    requirements: rapid beating coherent.

    1 2 3 4

    Second, hold the top leg wrestling
    action essentials: the right foot After the skip step foot, left fist placed in the lower jaw, immediately before the tread from the right leg, right foot forward off the step, the upper body bend forward, into the right bow, while his hands reach, and with a high knee, palm relative; then shoulder top forward, his hands placed on the belly after the pull, two before the next visual. As shown below:
    request: skip step before the pedal quickly, hold the top leg wrestling fierce.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; 3 ; ; 4

    Third, hook swing batter

    action essentials: step forward on left foot, left hook, then right uppercut, then left swings (not back), right fist placed lower jaw, eyes straight ahead. As shown below:
    requirements: coherent fast uppercut on the step.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; 3

    four, hold the arm fell back
    action essentials: progress at the same time, the left hand catch block out, palms outward, step right foot to the left anterior, right hand reach pick, palm up, placed his left front, then step left foot to right foot back, legs bent; upper left quickly after the twist bent, hands down violently, while kicking his legs straight (feet about one foot long or so apart), the hip on the top left side of the body placed in his hands becomes boxing; body left, kick right foot under the left placed in the mandibular fist, right fist placed on the lateral thigh, two visual front bottom. As shown below:
    requirements: twist, bend, drop, kick quickly consistency.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; ; 34

    five, side kick uppercut
    action essentials: the right foot in the left After the skip step foot, left kick, left foot landed, his left arm left block; then right uppercut (not back), left fist placed on the lower jaw, straight ahead. As shown below:
    requirements: side kick fast, hit hard hook.

    ; 12 ; ; 3 ; 4

    six, do not pull the elbow arm
    action essentials: progress, to move top of the plug from the bottom left hand palm, right palm, just below the shoulder, the right fist placed on the lower jaw; then the right hand grasping the left wrist, his left fist, twist the body to the right into the right bow, while his hands After violently pull the body under pressure, placed his hands before the abdomen, two visual front bottom. As shown below:
    requirements: palm fast plug, pull down after fierce pressure.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; ; 3

    seven, lift leg pressure neck
    action essentials: the body to the left, turn 180 degrees, hold the left copy, right foot to the left front kick (with the same high leg), while the body, turn right and left hand on the head with a high pick, palm back, right hand under the pressure after the pendulum, palm backward; right foot kick After the fall after the left foot step, and force the next step, while the left foot on the step before the high, the lower left block left arm, right palm placed around his waist, then hit the right palm forward interpolation, palm down and the throat with a high (not recovered) placed in the left lower jaw becomes boxing, eyes straight ahead. As shown below:
    requirements: on the pick, under pressure, rapid consecutive kicks.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; 3 ; 4

    eight, side kick cross kick
    action essentials: fist right palm change placed in the lower jaw, and skip step right foot forward, side kick from the left leg, then the right cross-kick, step right foot drop, a straight left (not back), two straight ahead; left and turn 180 degrees into a fighting style , straight ahead. As shown below:
    requirements: side kick fast, fierce cross-kick.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; ; 3 ; 4

    nine, playing kick
    action before the board essentials: the right front pedal, then bomb left leg kick, step left foot down, the right Zhiquan (not back), straight ahead. As shown below:
    requirements: before kicking fierce, playing kick fast, stable center of gravity.

    ; 1 ; ; 2 ; 3

    ten, put hook straight hit
    action essentials: progressive straight left , then the right swings, then left the color boxing (not back) two straight ahead. As shown below:
    requirements: rapid beating coherent.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; 3

    XI, then rinse the legs fell
    action essentials: body left, right, hold copy, left hand grasping the right wrist; retreat right foot a big step into the right lunge at the same time, Hua Hu on his hands right through the knee, shoulder high, two visual the lower left. As shown below:
    requirements: withdrawal step, Hua Hu fast, fierce.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; 3

    XII swings side kick
    action essentials: the right swing in , then straight left, then left kick, left foot off the step, the right Zhiquan (not back), eyes straight ahead. As shown below:
    requirements: rapid blows, stable center of gravity.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; 3 ; 4

    XIII crotch crotch hit
    Action Tips: progress at the same time, the body dive, legs bent, hands become inserted under the palm,Ralph Lauren Sale, left hand on (the same height and knee), right next (with the same high leg), palm relative; twist the body to the right after 270 degree at the same time step on the right foot, fist Tihou La palms change in chest, upper body bend forward, then left knee to kneel down, hit with left fist under the left knee with a high, right fist placed on the lower jaw, two below the visual . As shown below:
    requirements: Step on the legs hold fast, turn fell fierce.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; 3

    fourth, stumbling legs kneeling crotch
    action essentials: up left copy hold at the same time, advances his right foot, toe buckle (left foot to keep up); step left foot to right foot back, right leg back while stumbling under the spinning body to the left, the left hand into a fist, fist inward, placed submandibular, right into the character palm, palm down, placed in the left chest. As shown below:
    requirements: Step back, stumbling legs, spinning rapidly consistency.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; 3

    fifth, block play kick
    Action Tips: After the twist the body to the right while the right upper block; left leg playing kick, his left foot off the step, the right Zhiquan (not back), straight ahead. As shown below:
    requirements: block in place, playing play fast.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; ; 3

    XVI Zhouxi batter
    action essentials: left horizontal blow elbow, then the right horizontal elbow strike, then fists become character palm forward runs, shoulder high, hands down, while the right red knee; right foot off the step, left and swivel 180 degrees, into a fighting style. As shown below:
    requirements: elbow, knee rapid coherent red.

    ; 1 ; 2 ; 3
    4 5 end of the ceremony

    ; ; ; ;

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  838. fgmgrbbah January 15, 2012 at 7:47 pm #

    I’m tired I fell asleep ! I love you , but too late ‘! I will bless you ( Please read the person you love to cherish the present !)There was a pair of very enviable couple boys mixed with a bad temper like always in the pub

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    girl so in love with the boy

    two girls together for six months beginning on the boy because he was tired of just a bully
    but in fact she did not know the boys are still outside to earn money just to buy a piano to complete the dream girl

    have to be this way six months later … ……

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    girl back but are still around there is a handsome boy

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    girls drink too drunk .. not the ability to struggle .

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    but he did not push the girls though his heart hurts, but he hugged her
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    miss the girl, who two years can be a full time people forget

    but he knew he might love this life only, but the girl …

    how God can get people like it?

    back home the boy received a reunion phone so he went to meet old classmates

    never thought that after the girl was there …. When students are talking past when

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    but he knew he could not say it …..

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    unforgivable mistake … not only people who can not restore …..

    boys the girls back home have been looking at the girl standing outside the house lights went out he turned to his left

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    girls are lying in bed thinking about her boy Although in reality she was a boy, but she still moved

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    know you did not forget I had been really sorry .. Although you will not let me say that but I still say I’m sorry … I

    this time with you forever Never with separate ……trucks rushed out sideways from the intersection too fast because it crashed into a boy …. boy fell to the ground

    phone in hand … and he’s not finished his Information

    scarves suddenly thought of the girls there wear clothes according to coat then take the direction of the boys ran out

    when she went to the intersection a lot of people around so she went up to find a boy lying on the ground

    suddenly like a knife to her heart as she squats down …. pick up the boys … This time the boys have been dying

    girl cried as if her tears started to flow over a lifetime …. boy touched the girl’s face
    wipe the tears .. the girls because he knows this is a good day do not want anyone to cry, especially girls

    boy closed his eyes forever …. . ……..

    girls crying girl picked up the phone: you ..

    I have loved you 2 years ago today, I also bought a piano for your piano to your home every day have to pay my song
    ………………..;

    girls regret why she had to leave him why he had to be stupid

    but everything is too late … because she could no longer see less than boys make her happy face a

    the first 2 years of Christmas … a girl for an extraordinary day … she came to the boys feel at home the old piano

    bounced belong to their song … tears …..

    this time the girls have found the piano top a few lines …..
    Hush ‘! I’m tired I fell asleep! I love you, but too late ‘! I will bless you
    I’ll give you my happiness because you are my beloved girl

    boys for the first time these words are to be female When the children abandoned on the piano to write

    read this to her heart sore … sore .. also could not stop the tears streaming down

    girls to boys in the grave with branches write six words I’m sorry …. I love you.

    friends who love you to cherish the present it may be some time you will feel tired

    ; but love and be loved are not wrong, just look at us understand not cherish.

    later regret … do not lose

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       8 Ministry of the Interior said in a statement released by the police in southern Kuwait, Mina Abdulla Industrial Area, a number of these diesel found in the warehouse. But the statement did not disclose the police cracked the case of the specific time. solar heater
       Preliminary findings indicate that, with a qualified diesel export company profits in order to obtain the number of employees suspected of involvement in diesel smuggling.
       Gulf oil producers Kuwait’s proven crude oil reserves of the world’s total reserves of about 10% of the national government to implement high gasoline and diesel subsidies. Among them, the diesel price of 55 fils per liter (about 0.198 U.S. dollars), nearly 10 years the price has not changed.
       Last December, Kuwait, Customs has uncovered an attempt to smuggle about 350 tons of diesel oil outside of the case. wedding Gowns
     

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  879. youmouyixia January 23, 2012 at 2:16 am #

       July 2011 meteorite fall in Morocco has been shown to come from Mars. The chemical methods used by scientists to confirm the value of meteorites from Mars to 10 times more valuable than gold.
       It is reported that meteorite weighing about 6.8 kg, probably in July 2011 with the field of meteor showers that fall to Earth. Because Mars is not able to sample the material on Mars back to Earth, so meteor showers have become the only source of access to Martian meteorites. Bridal gowns
       17, by the meteorite scientists, experts and the U.S. space agency said a special committee composed of these meteorites really from Mars, the largest of a weight over 0.9 kg, and now all gathered on the planet Mars meteorite not add up to 109 kg . As the very rare, the high price of these meteorites, ten times more valuable than gold.
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    Aries constellation dark side – child;
    Taurus – greed;
    twin – evil;
    Cancer – Yin;
    Lion – – mad;
    virgin – Diao;
    scales – bullying;
    Scorpio – spicy;
    shooter – stubborn;
    Capricorn – wild;
    bottle – absolutely;
    Pisces – fans.
    [12]
    Aries constellation of self-worth: love themselves the most important,
    Taurus: give yourself and others a sense of security,
    Gemini: communication skills,
    Cancer: motherhood care,
    lion: a goal with confidence,
    Virgin: careful and considerate and practical,
    Scorpio: the mysterious charm,
    scales: a smooth take into account so that we get along with everyone,
    shooter : a little two optimism,
    Capricorn: mature and rich social experience,
    bottle: the idea of ??there with a different special lines
    Pisces: good-natured, innocent and lovely
    [12] sexy
    constellation Scorpio 98%
    striker 95%
    Pisces 89%
    Lion 85%
    Aries Taurus 82%
    75%
    scales 74%
    bottle 44%
    Capricorn 41%
    Gemini 40%
    Cancer 35%
    Virgin 32%

    what will become the heart [12 constellations ? ]
    Aries: the lover no longer feel fresh
    Taurus: can not stand the temptation,
    Gemini: the pursuit of novelty,
    Cancer: Valentine’s asking for too much and choose to escape,
    lion: difficult to allow the lover to make things infidelity,
    virgin: no self-confidence and you forever,
    scales: do not refuse love him,
    Scorpio: Love to suffocate him,
    shooter: not stability of the prodigal son in love,
    Capricorn: You made no use of the value of his work,
    bottle: habits of their own independent,
    Pisces: overused [12 constellations of love
    own quirks What? ]
    Aries: the face that they please.
    Taurus: stick man kung fu super.
    Gemini: born to acting school.
    Cancer: the Sui Suinian as a habit.
    Lions: ?????.
    Virgin: always felt too fat.
    scales: grass is always greener extreme.
    Scorpio: hearsay evidence into the habit.
    shooter: a natural lack of a sense of direction.
    Capricorn: never understand tenderness.
    bottle: too random lost sense of proportion.
    Pisces: something nothing cute.
    constellation [12]
    long live nirvana personal weather tight pegged him: Scorpio, Aquarius
    control of his money: Virgo, Pisces
    to bind with family responsibilities: Taurus, Gemini, Leo
    maintain their value: Aries, Libra, Sagittarius
    as an important helper of his career: Cancer, Capricorn

    [of] the authority of 12 constellations fly: 95%
    Leo fly fly 92%
    Aries Sagittarius Taurus fly fly 90%
    85%
    Cancer fly 85%
    Capricorn fly 84%
    Aquarius fly 75%
    65%
    Libra Scorpio fly fly fly 65% ??
    60%
    Pisces Virgo fly 55%
    Gemini fly 45%
    [12]
    Aries constellation vacuum recipe: Sports,
    Taurus: massage,
    Gemini: chat gossip,
    Cancer: cry,
    lion: body rest with friends and family recognition,
    Virgin: Keep physical labor,
    scales: Hot Springs SPA,
    Scorpio: XXOO,
    shooter: go Doudou Feng,
    Capricorn: air bubble foot before going to sleep ,
    bottle: do not take brains to find some activities to stimulate his brain temporarily shorting,
    Pisces: Fantasy
    [12]
    constellation of Cancer and trustworthy: the credit rating of 95%
    Scorpio: credit of 92%
    Virgo: Taurus credit of 90%
    : credit rating of 85%
    Leo: credit of 85%
    Capricorn: Aquarius credit of 84%
    : Credit of 75%
    Aries: credit rating of 65%
    Libra: credit of 65%
    Pisces: credit of 60%
    Sagittarius: Gemini credit of 55%
    : credit of 45%
    [12]
    Cancer constellation possessive possessive possessive Scorpio 92%
    92%
    Taurus: Pisces 90%
    possessive possessive 89%
    85%
    possessive Leo Libra Capricorn 78%
    possessive possessive 65%
    Aries: 45%
    possessive possessive 40%
    Virgo Aquarius possessive 28%
    Gemini: Sagittarius 20%
    possessive possessive offend 15%
    [12 results]
    constellation Aries woman will call you,
    maxed Taurus your card,
    Twins will never forgive you,
    Cancer, a report will help you,
    Lions tour to punish you,
    famous virgin makes you famous, but all is foul,
    scales newspaper is a living than Hello,
    heart of Scorpio have reported the ability but not reported,
    shooter ruthless two reported methods,
    Capricorn contempt for you, bottle let the world know what you damn,
    Pisces thought finally fit you most afraid of
    [12 constellations? ]
    Aries: is the cause of thorns workaholic,
    Taurus: people who do not want to get married,
    Gemini: lonely lonely ghost,
    Cancer: a complex family situation of the people,
    lion: the appearance of a lack of patience of the people Mensao,
    Virgin: the artist’s self-refined personality,
    scales: playful and lively welcome by the opposite sex who,??274???????????????(?),
    Scorpio: more mysterious than their own people ,
    shooter: sticky body Wang,
    Capricorn: people who have a partner,
    bottle: Ray,
    Pisces: Do not put yourself at ease on the constellation of people

    12 [reason]
    Aries despair: the oppressed,
    Taurus: economic hardship,
    Twins: family pressure,
    Cancer: family change,
    Lion: betrayal,
    Virgin: the cause of ring true lovers together infidelity,
    scales: not so difficult to choose,
    Scorpio: that no life goals,
    shooter: not free,
    Capricorn: Valentine fell in love with themselves close to him,
    Bottle: living hard and fast,
    Pisces: Do not be concerned about
    lover after breaking up [12]
    constellation Aries: You told me how, how can I for you.
    Taurus: eat a big meal and then the first count,
    Gemini: no need to.
    Cancer: The Valentine’s miss but more.
    Lion: afraid to meet again.
    Virgin: hated.
    scales: ignore each other the more they want to do friends, but friends will do the other side would like to actively avoid each other.
    Scorpio: Enyuanfenming.
    shooter: no need to contact.
    Capricorn: or friends.
    bottle: find next.
    Pisces: think of the angry.
    way of doing things [12]
    constellation Aries: With Xing Suozhi!
    Taurus: will not act blindly.
    Gemini: rapid response.
    Cancer: work quite satisfactory.
    Lion: preference for important work hard!
    Virgin: set strict targets process.
    scales: calm never exaggerated impatience.
    Scorpio: own ideas is not like other people say.
    shooter: a flexible environment for anti-traditional.
    Capricorn: to work non-stop happy to take on more work.
    bottle: can not be predicted.
    Pisces: abstract thinking, careful and creative.

    [12]
    Aries constellation Aspects of marriage: his mother wait outside another person,
    Taurus: singles who helped me free massage,
    Gemini: rather single,
    giant crab: my mother, marriage be considered as individuals,
    Lions: After just listen to my words,
    Virgin: How divorce married wanted to deal with
    scales: the necessary wear a wedding dress wedding!
    Scorpio: I married you, I or me,
    shooter: get married? free and then I go first contact,
    Capricorn: marriage must end, but slowly, etc., Bottle: Marriage is too out!
    Pisces: Where to honeymoon?

    constellation [12]
    confident first impression is Aries,
    Taurus is quiet, docile,
    eloquent is the twin,
    Cancer shy and often deliberately kept a distance from others ,
    lion wearing a considerable emphasis on appearance,
    Virgin performance from the beginning to meet the United States,
    scales inherently social expert,
    Scorpio always protect themselves,
    striker is optimistic hearty crowd pistachio,
    Capricorn and people get along is not strength,
    bottle like to show their talents,
    Pisces eye discharge, easy access to others favor

    [12 constellations you need to talk about how many men ( female) friends, be considered mature! ]
    First: Gemini 21.
    Second: Sagittarius 18.
    Third: Pisces 15.
    Fourth: Aquarius 12.
    First five: Libra 9.
    sixth: Virgo 8.
    seventh: Aries 7.
    eighth: Cancer 6.
    ninth: Scorpio 5 one.
    tenth: Leo 4.
    eleventh: Capricorn 3.
    XII: Taurus 2.

    constellation rejection index [12] Aries: 80%;
    Taurus: 20%;
    Gemini: 90%;
    Cancer: 35%;
    Leo: 70%;
    Virgo: 30%; Libra: 65%;
    Scorpio: 40%;
    Sagittarius: 90%;
    Capricorn: 70%;
    Aquarius: 70%;
    Pisces: 20%

    the world’s most ambiguous [Top]
    first constellation Pisces,
    second scales,
    third bottle,
    fourth twin,
    fifth Scorpio, sixth shooter,
    seventh Taurus,
    eighth virgin,
    ninth Cancer,
    tenth Capricorn,
    XI Aries,
    XII Lion

    romance Postscript] [12 constellation Pisces will be drunk
    a;
    Taurus will cry.
    Cancer will call complain;
    Leo will go to the beach hair.
    Sagittarius will look over all the film;
    Virgo will be closed-door three days and three nights.
    Capricorn will seriously examine and reflect;
    Aries will go to KTV screaming. All food will be endured
    Libra;
    Scorpio will find the next lover.
    Gemini will provide air tickets abroad relax;
    Aquarius will be crazy shopping.

    [your astrological sign is hot or cold]
    Aries: Taurus
    Raisin: Raisin
    Gemini: hot outside in the cold
    Cancer: hot and cold Leo: heat in the cold outside
    Virgo: Raisin
    Libra: Scorpio lukewarm
    : Raisin
    Sagittarius: Capricorn outside the hot coolant
    : lukewarm
    Aquarius: hot and cold
    Pisces: lukewarm

    large degree of infatuation [Zodiac]
    Secret Aries: 1 minute.
    Taurus: 7 years.
    Gemini: 1 day.
    Cancer: a quarter.
    Leo: 1 hour.
    Virgo: 1 week.
    Libra: 1 month.
    Scorpio: 1 night.
    Sagittarius: 1 second.
    Capricorn: 10 years.
    Aquarius: life.
    Pisces: 1 year.

    bother list [12]
    first constellation: Sagittarius 97 minutes.
    second: Gemini 95 points.
    third: Pisces 94.
    fourth: Aquarius 90.
    fifth: Libra 85.
    sixth: Aries 78.
    seventh: Leo 69 minutes.
    eighth: Cancer 55 points.
    ninth: Capricorn 45 minutes.
    tenth: Taurus 43 points.
    eleventh: Virgo 33 minutes.
    twelfth Name: Scorpio 33 points.

    [12] list the constellation most
    1 2
    2 Sagittarius Pisces Gemini
    3
    4
    5 Aries Libra Cancer
    6 7 Aquarius
    8 Taurus
    9 Leo
    10 Capricorn
    11 Virgo
    12 Scorpio

    [blood] best efforts to reach the constellation Libra
    Libra 0 B-B-type Sagittarius Gemini Sagittarius type AB type AB

    favorite lover [12] Constellation Aries porridge God of the opposite sex,
    Taurus porridge personality honest and prudent people,
    Twins most wanted is the ability to talk to the object,
    Cancer needs to be the object of marriage,
    the strength of a lion looks conditions The first priority,
    hardly picky Virgo favorite,
    scales outside must be superior,
    gentle and strong personality Scorpio porridge,
    striker wants everyone to have fun,
    Capricorn porridge willing people who listen to his command,
    water bottles, such as rice warm friends,
    Pisces have a romantic

    the feeling of love [12]
    constellation Aries: big love and distinct emotional changes ,
    Taurus: love competition tolerate rival,
    twin: very self-willed cynical,
    Cancer: pay more than the other feelings,
    lions: while a few people like and love,
    Virgin: No cheating partner,
    scales: like love and the dudes and babes,
    Scorpio: the other side will be dead sexy,
    shooter: favorite cohabitation,
    Capricorn: will like to marry the opposite sex,
    bottle: as long as there is feeling,
    Pisces: a love forgetting all

    [12]
    Aries constellation can not accept: offensive to the dignity and self-confidence to do damage,
    Taurus: borrow money to them,
    Gemini: gossip his privacy,
    Cancer: criticism of his family and friends,
    lion: do not count on him said,
    virgin : no credit people,
    scales: direct sharp criticism,
    Scorpio: betrayal,
    shooter: the loss of free space, not to be trusted,
    Capricorn: contempt for others behind him,
    Aquarius: does not respect his ideas,
    Pisces: force him to face the reality of love to give love

    blind spot [12]
    constellation Aries: too easy to believe that appearance,
    Taurus: time stick the other side are getting taken seriously,
    Gemini: Great strongman two lost money,
    Cancer: choose the wrong person has refused to recognize his mistake,
    lion: the wrong people do not know ,
    Virgin: scare away the object is too picky,
    scales: wronged themselves into each other like the class shape,
    Scorpio: A letter to the whole letter,
    shooter: fight for will not understand patience, Capricorn: themselves into slaves,
    bottle: to be able to control the situation since,
    Pisces: deceive yourself

    list] [Zodiac IQ
    first a: IQ 130
    second Gemini: Sagittarius IQ 125
    Third: Scorpio IQ 120
    fourth: IQ 110
    fifth Taurus: Virgo IQ 105
    Sixth: Capricorn IQ 102
    seventh; Aquarius IQ 102
    eighth: Leo IQ 100
    ninth: Libra IQ 95
    tenth: Cancer IQ 90 eleventh: Aries IQ 80
    XII: Pisces IQ 75

    [more like friends than lovers]
    constellation with one virgin male VS Jin Niunv
    Second, the scales VS Cancer men
    three women, two children, VS Pisces male
    four female lion VS Scorpio male
    five female shooter VS Aries male
    six Capricorn Female VS Male

    bottle how to deal with [12]
    constellation Aries men: direct instructions to solve the problem,
    Taurus: what with his fear of his threat,
    Gemini: to carrot and stick,
    Cancer: cool deal,
    Lions: Be sure to use soft,
    Virgin: certainly better than they,
    scales: we must first calm,
    Scorpio: Suddenly cold,
    shooter: hard to eat soft food,
    Capricorn: This paper presents an authoritative statement of evidence that he surrender,
    bottle: with fun and ironic way to describe light that light,
    Pisces: first in front of him crying

    [12]
    Aries constellation happy motto: You can warm but not emotional,
    Taurus: stubborn is blocking their way to happiness,
    Gemini: vision help you more happiness,
    Cancer: bold careful to point outside,
    Lion: talented but also have a good temper,
    Virgin: carefully with patience is the capital,
    scales: heart, dream do not fly,
    Scorpio: Convergence cold out strength,
    shooter: arrogance by losing,
    Capricorn: believe in yourself,
    bottle: back from the enthusiasm to face life, Pisces: reduce unnecessary fantasy < br />

    [12 constellations of the most annoying things people]
    Aries pipe: work decision.
    Taurus: dinner with friends.
    Gemini: change his mind concept.
    Cancer: Family.
    Lion: ask too much detail.
    virgin: how to buy things tube.
    Libra: You have made a decision.
    Scorpio: He’s privacy.
    shooter: unimportant trivia.
    Capricorn: the thing with the money.
    bottle: a bunch of restrictions on freedom provisions.
    Pisces: who to call to.

    [12] constellation only pass lovers
    Aries: Pisces.
    Taurus: Sagittarius.
    Gemini: Capricorn.
    Cancer: Aquarius.
    Leo: Cancer.
    Virgo: Aries.
    Libra: Taurus.
    Scorpio: Gemini.
    Sagittarius: Scorpio.
    Capricorn: Leo.
    Aquarius: Virgo.
    Pisces: Libra

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    Newspaper Yantai, August 16 (Reporter correspondent Ju Ping Wang Shujun) the afternoon of the 16th, Yantai Fushan District, nearly sixty years, Mr. Choi Jiahe received fishing nets, I did not expect the water due to upstream reservoir,abercrombie paris, folders river rheological anxious, Mr. Choi rely not trapped in the river shore. Fire officers and soldiers after nearly an hour of the contest with the river, and finally Mr. Choi rescued ashore,hollister france. At 3 p.m. on the 16th, Yantai public Mr. Choi came to the Jiahe shore about 200 meters south of Fukuyama Hospital two days ago in the rubber, he placed nets below the dam, the day he came to take a look at the harvest how. Mr. Choi put tire inner tubes prepared in advance, then under the river two or three meters deep,ray ban uk, where the river, past the gentle river, Mr,abercrombie france. Choi into the net to close the net very easily. Mr. Choi did not expect is the recent rainy Jiahe upstream reservoir water just flood the Jiahe water suddenly becomes turbulent. Not prepared in advance,ray ban lunettes, Mr,ray ban pas cher. Choi barely gather in fishnet horrified to discover that no matter how hard he can not rely on shore. 15:10, Fukuyama Fire Squadron received a report, that the people trapped in Jiahe. Arrived at the scene, the site commander found trapped in public ten meters away from the shore, set of tire inner tubes, but because of the river hasty efforts to swat can only guarantee that they are not washed away by the river. Seeing the situation,hogan outlet, the captain Guo Jianan and players put on a life jacket, fastened with a safety rope immediately jumped into the water, rushing water brought to the rescue work hampered firefighters attached into the water three times can not be close to Mr. Choi. Fourth into the water,abercrombie france, the captain Guo Jianan choose from the the upstream rubber Baxia water, and then down the power of the water,hogan, a little close to Mr,ray ban. Choi. 15:50,ray ban lunettes, efforts for nearly an hour,oakley, Guo Jianan finally the safety rope Shengtou handed the hands of Mr. Choi subsequently help shore firefighters and residents,hollister, Mr. Choi to save on the shore. 15:52, Mr. Choi was put ashore.

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  899. vfr5467ak May 3, 2013 at 3:29 am #

    ??nearly 6000 square meters, hundreds of villagers gathered here. Two sides at loggerheads,abercrombie paris, explosive. The confrontation between the two sides is the the Fort Community cannons East, gun western Residents Unit (collectively referred to as “Fort Village”) and Fort community some residents of other teams. The foot of the elementary school playground has become the focal points of contention. Village Road, across the playground buried worry fort village Road project investment of 20 million yuan since the beginning of this year, since the start, has been progressing smoothly. Unexpectedly, when the works to advance to the fort elementary school playground,oakley, but “met a setback.” Fort Primary School is located in Maogang District Nanhai Street Fort Community Green School of Maoming City, Mao Gangqu model schools. Large in the playground area of ??the school in front of only a handful of local. The South China Sea, Highlands two street area 15 Primary School Track and Field Games held at biennial meetings, three times in a row already “settled” Fort Primary School,air jordan pas cher. However, the draw of a plan in early 2010, the fort primary school playground just stuck in the the fort village two kilometers Village Road throat position. February 20, in order to give the Village Road construction to pave the way to fight for multi-party support Fort Village Maogang District more than 20 departments issued a letter to support the construction of the fort ring village cement road. Which said: “overall planning in accordance with the land, Village Road,mulberry, passing through Fort elementary school playground, need to borrow playground bit of land.” Primarily benefit residents of the fort village the road plan, does not lead to the enthusiasm of the inhabitants of the other seven teams in Fort Community. In contrast, the fort elementary school playground consequent risk of occupation, has struck a sensitive nerve of the residents,louboutin. Fort community members of a neighborhood committee surnamed Chen told reporters Southern Rural News, Fort elementary school playground to live and study issues related to the interests of the masses of the whole community of more than 3,000 students, is not the whole community consensus before the project can not start construction . ” Fort elementary school principals Liang Yuru also has its own concerns. He told the Southern Rural News reporter, the construction of Village Road is a good thing, he is very supportive,abercrombie, but the basic education in rural areas is also important. Fort village tract, objectively destroyed school playgrounds, schools cited that the TAG 200 meters of the runway will be truncated,ray ban, which is not conducive to the school’s sports teaching. 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  900. giewgj85bbv May 4, 2013 at 5:55 am #

    ‘s lawyers believe that the fault of the two hospitals leads to death, which, MCH is not actively continued bleeding of pregnant women, Luhe Hospital infection is caused by the fatal reason. The two hospitals are no-fault, pregnant with twins, scar the uterus (9 years ago the Caesarean children),toms shoes, said Liu Shuling childbirth, maternity dangerous,ray ban sunglasses. Subsequently, the experts around the treatment of the details of more than one hour of inquiry. The father of the twins hope to settle yesterday, the Sun Xuefeng holding twins children to Forensic Center. He pointed to his son “baby” on the forehead of a scar children out from the ward, the forehead there is a scratch left,hollister, like a scalpel, he hopes to provide clues for this identification. Without this court the evidence submitted to the Identification Center, the experts did not adopt. Learned expert conclusions need 90 days,ray ban, Sun Xuefeng said: “I only hope that as soon as there is a settled, psychological and life support does not go.” ? Interrupted afraid to close two small babies stare Sun Xuefeng again picked up the original work — violin,abercrombie france, every day, let yourself busy went to bed early in the morning, in order not to think about his wife. While ago, he went to Shanghai to open the instrument fairs, selling piano to earn two million a month by selling his piano subsistence, well-intentioned people to send milk powder and baby clothes is good enough. But he did not dare think later. Sun Xuefeng said, got a lot of good-hearted people, want to adopt a child, but he can not be determined under. He hoped the lawsuit is settled quickly so he can have money to retain children. But the lawsuit also need time, legal fees, appraisal fees,toms outlet, wife mortuary fees,hollister, let him find it barely,ray ban pas cher. Now, watching the children, Sun Xuefeng hand Xiangbao, and always drew back, frightened and children have feelings,ray ban, someday really saying good-bye, and I am sad ah. “? close-up son call my mother to scare away the nurse overgrown hodgepodge The cabin did not have a decent furniture, discarded plastic bags, free to plug in the cabinet corner, under the bed, covered with a layer of dark dust,ray ban pas cher. This is the the the twins father Sun Xuefeng Tianyang Village, in Tongzhou majuqiao Town, “home”. The twins the niu, baby and grandparents slept in a big bed, the bed is also scattered with old sheets and baby clothes. Children with the shaker bamboo and hemp bales, the wheels are crooked. To see the reporters,tory burch outlet, two little guys stopped crying and stared curiously at the visitors hold. Daughter niu cried babble, and play with the grimace, the son baby also took the initiative to let reporters hug. Sun Xuefeng said, the baby will be called “Mama”, just three and a half months. He clearly shouting nurses around scared and ran away. To watching her firmly sitting Shaker, Sun Xuefeng said: “Like her mother,abercrombie paris, and a sit down and do not love animals.” Sun Xuefeng there is a second grade son, since the mother’s death, the eldest son is not let mention the word “mother”, he said little, nothing can make your own decision. “Has never told me to pocket money, even if the school you want to pay, forcing tight, he said.” Sun Xuefeng said, he decided,abercrombie pas cher, on this the secret of how the twins will always conservative mother died.

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  901. ugasydhgfjdi May 6, 2013 at 12:41 am #

    ‘boom’ sound, like an explosion,mulberry, like a construction worker recalled the time of the fire at about 11:30 or so, when he was work on the site, only to hear behind heard “a loud noise,hollister, looked back,???????, piling machine from the fire. However,?????????, the fire is still a moving cement bags are piling machine near He burns. According to the site a number of workers, is the moment of effort,????? ?????, Mr. Chen body on fire, fell to the ground, in order to save themselves, he insisted on crawling 50 meters, will be unable to forward. Upon seeing the workers side to help him fire, while calling 120,??? ???. 13:00 yesterday, the reporter arrived at the Zhuhai Municipal People’s Hospital burn unit, related to health care workers injured arms and legs are cut with scissors multiple burns dead skin,louboutin pas cher. According to the medical staff say,mulberry, the injured burn case is more serious,abercrombie, there is a slight awareness of need to quickly rescue, or easy life is in danger. Wounded sister-in-law standing on the health care room door in tears and said, He is the municipal projects related to the workers of the contractor team. To make money, Mr. Chen, the Chinese New Year are not going back home, his son was still in college reunion. Occurrence of such a thing,mulberry outlet, I really do not know how to say to the child,mulberry outlet. In the hospital, the reporter also saw the construction side of the several officers, they do not want to disclose more, but said the rescue deal. Two residential gas shut According to the staff of the relevant government departments in Nanping Town, the site of the incident for municipal projects. The fire caused by piling machine accidentally break the underground gas pipeline,???, gas leak encountered welding Mars open flames. After the incident, Nanping town’s various departments rushed to the scene in a timely manner, and immediately notify the gas company will switch off the gas pipeline incident lots, in order to avoid more accidents. At present, construction units are jointly gas companies to clean up the site, piling out of the way, but also will immediately repair the gas pipeline, to avoid affecting the daily lives of residents,?????. According to the Nanping the town HUAFA community’s neighborhood committee staff, affected by fire, turn off the gas cell there are two, respectively the Metro HUAFA and Narcissus Garden.

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  902. i89hz1t9e5 May 9, 2013 at 6:00 am #

    Neighbor opened the door and hugged kissed the early morning of January 10, the the Nanbin Shizhu police station received the area residents Zengmou police said, were neighbors Pingmou beaten. The duty police went to the scene to investigate,ray ban pas cher, Pingmou police said his wife were neighbors Zengmou rape ruined want the police to help Responsibility. Subsequently, the police went to investigate. Face the police, Pingmou admitted hit man,louboutin pas cher, Zengmou also said that, long ago affair him with Pingmou wife,louboutin. Original evening of 9, Zengmou drinking point drink, ran to a neighbor Chen home chat. Chen husband Pingmou often working outside the home, Zengmou wife working outside year round,abercrombie paris, the two have long had an affair. Chat,hogan outlet, Zengmou learned that the Chen husband Pingmou was not home, color center Dunqi. About 0:00, Zengmou came to Chen outside the house, shouting the name of Chen,toms shoes, while making door, then the door opened a crack, Zengmou came and held open the door people kiss,abercrombie, and, behold, it suffered a severely a sap. The original door is Chen husband Pingmou,ray ban. The day, her husband Chen Pingmou go out to work, and found work in the evening, did not bring mobile phone charger, think of the road not far from home,ray ban pas cher, then go home and get. It was late, Pingmou decided to stay at home, go to work the next day,abercrombie pas cher. At the same time,hollister, the color minded fans, without the knowledge of Zengmou knocks on your door, be the Pingmou caught a brutally beaten meal had knees for mercy,abercrombie. At present,hollister france, the case is under further investigation. Chongqing Evening News chief reporter Xiaxiang Zhou correspondent Lee

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  903. fsdf89sd9r3 May 9, 2013 at 6:32 am #

    ‘s negotiations alarm. Compounding and not looking for someone to “top cylinder on the two sides are still deadlocked when a young man came to the scene. At this time, the BMW drivers no longer talk about compounding conditions,hollister outlet, but immediately opened the drivers of commercial vehicles, wanted to run away from the scene, and that recognized the young man first came to real BMW driver. Onlookers seeing really could not stand, and hurried to catch up, stopped and surrounded. “I did not open the car, the BMW drivers yell at the scene. The presence of members of the public are very angry and kept asking the driver of the BMW, BMW driver still argue that first came to live young male, not open. As for how his face injury hit,louboutin, the BMW driver said his car to the edge of the time of the accident encountered no surprise. Car how a traffic accident “When onlookers to the young men to understand the situation and found that he not only was not hurt, the rhetoric is full of loopholes, the specific details collided with a commercial vehicle,louis vuitton, the man could not answer, the people who more feel that there must be something. When members of the public to pass off as drivers about perjury to bear legal responsibility, there is monitoring, originally staged driver insisted that was driving the BMW sports car, all of a sudden soft tone down no longer say the car he opened,hogan outlet. Top cylinder had wanted the police immediately, but no match for the sharp eyes of the masses, onlookers Seeing this situation, BMW driver secretly want to find a commercial vehicle drivers compounding, once again refused,mulberry outlet. Seeing this, the accident BMW driver also fled the scene. To find someone to pass off as not,hollister, end up bailing once again aroused public anger of the onlookers, we stopped and surrounded until the traffic police rushed after him on the police car, the public was assured away. The trunk of the police investigation found The a ax commercial vehicle drivers Qianmou police said of the incident, he was driving from Hanzhong Gate Bridge, traveling from west to east, to bend to the left under the viaduct ready to enter the Hu Ju Road when suddenly from the east quickly approaching a BMW sports car that he had not had time to respond,abercrombie, the two vehicles hit with,abercrombie france. “I’m sorry, I should not drink and drive, I was wrong,mulberry, this evening with a few friends together,hogan, drank two bottles of beer, BMW sports car I drive,hogan outlet, the car I am a man.” BMW sports car drivers witnesses many have been unable to deny, they admitted after accident. He said he was not racing, speed faster, Hanzhong Square viaduct, he suddenly saw in front of the car, want to brake to avoid, but it was too late. Yesterday afternoon, reporters Advances in understanding of incident handling to the traffic police brigade, traffic police brigade official said BMW drivers drunk driving signs deal with the traffic police of the accident the driver’s license of the driver is being withheld in accordance with the law, and he has been a blood test blood alcohol concentration, but the test results have come out on Monday,mulberry. As long as the results came out, if the driver drunk driving, police will revoke the driver’s license;, not only to revoke the driver’s license if the driver is drunk driving, the driver will be detained. The traffic police also said that they detect an ax in the BMW car afterwards, BMW driver first Huaqiao police station, survey, etc. ax has been thoroughly investigated, and then by the traffic police department regarding driving his wine penalties,mulberry.

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  904. i9s0as5w1p May 11, 2013 at 11:19 pm #

    ‘s birthday celebration drink too much wine. Yu Bolin said he did not know who hit. On the evening of October 5, the the Luoshan traffic police brigade Week Party squadron commander with the Police Association horsemen week party town at the crossroads of duty. Around 11 pm, squadron leader at the crossroads of east and horsemen in the west. At that moment,louboutin pas cher, a private car from west to east,mulberry, suddenly crashed into the horsemen. Horsemen dragged ten meters stopped,mulberry outlet, then continue eastward. Squadron leader immediately on discovery toward the horsemen,???????, the horsemen beyond recognition, who sustained multiple fractures. Squadron leader while emergency telephone call for help, while the police,hollister. Horsemen the ambulance pulled Hospital, died. Luo Shangong security departments attach great importance to this matter,mulberry, on the one hand arrangement requires thorough investigation of the facts, on the one hand to appease the families of the horsemen. The incident the next morning,mulberry outlet, the perpetrators Yu Bolin surrendered in the father,?????????, who came to the Public Security Bureau. I parent, the horsemen returned home, still drunk, covered with the alcohol,hollister. And told him that on the road seems to hit the column, the car thump a bit,hollister. The next morning, the father of the perpetrators around to find, they took their son to the public security departments to give themselves up. Yu Bolin surrendered,hollister, the public security departments to an immediate breath test. According to horsemen Roshan weeks party Squadron colleagues,mulberry outlet, Ma Bingping serious and responsible work. Once was a soldier, demobilized from the army, the traffic police force recruited into the Police Association.

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  905. dbv169795e May 14, 2013 at 2:21 am #

    ‘s Court upheld the trial, after the court verdict Detention Commission revoked the reeducation-through-labor decisions made. ? event playback street playing cards detained the day of October 18 last year, Peng poly (a pseudonym) is not as usual until the father Peng Hua home. Later, he knew that his father was detained for gambling on the roadside. The original, in the afternoon, more than the rest of the harvested waste, Peng met Liu Jun, Pei Yuan, Cui Bing (both his real name). Four of them are villagers in Hubei, living in Shenzhen waste collection. Harvested waste the day after a break of more than four of them, plus three others, Taibai Road, Luohu District water bay industrial area outside the door of a shop on the roadside,air jordan, began to play poker, they play the “single the double bet a minimum of $ 1, up to 20 yuan. Did not play long, they seized Luohu police, the police seized gambling money of 1,398 yuan a gambling poker. According to the data, Peng Hua gambling money seized $ 535 (5) In addition to the lost, Cui soldiers seized gambling money is 105 yuan, 316 yuan the Liu army was seized gambling money (in addition to losing 16 million). Gambling per capita by the police administrative detention,mulberry. Peng Ju told reporters that the father but had a little flutter detained a few days out, so this time he did not care about this, thinking detained for 15 days after the deadline, the father can come back. Can be 15 days after the father has yet to be released,The Kunming version Xu Ting accused couple retracted in court _ News _, Peng poly anxious to detention centers ask, before we know the father sentenced to reeducation through labor for one year. Sentenced to re-education through labor and Peng Hua Liu Jun, Pei Yuan, Cui Bing 3 people, 3 of them had also had once been detained because of gambling experience. How from detention into a labor camp for one year so serious “Peng poly has also not understand. Cui soldiers wife get “re-education through labor written decision indicated on the Detention Commission to make detention decisions in accordance with Article 70 of the” People’s Republic of China on Administrative Penalties for Public Security Act, Article 76. Participate in gambling gambling money …… the circumstances are serious, at 10 days detention within 15 days, and impose a fine of more than 500 yuan to 300 yuan. “Incorrigible, in accordance with national regulations and to take compulsory education measures.” ” the decision of the State Council on the issue of re-education through labor “(a) and the State Council on the re-education through labor Supplementary Provisions Article,” much work, the hooliganism or not be held criminally responsible of theft, fraud, violation of public security management incorrigible “implementation of reeducation through labor. “Gambling money”, “serious”, “incorrigible”, and ultimately 4 from detention into a labor camp. First instance revoked Detention Committee decided after the incident, the Peng Hua four families of people linked to the lawyers, a lawyer who advises them to come forward to bring a lawsuit against the Detention Commission only by one person,mulberry, “a lawsuit won, 4 people will be put out, you can also save some attorneys’ fees. “June 30 this year, Luohu District, the Court of First Instance sentenced to reeducation-through-labor decision revoked the detention Committee Peng Hua. Court hearing that case, the gambling money gambled on October 18, 2009,??? ?????, Peng Hua carry 540 yuan,Released from prison man formation handling team placed hund, only lost 5 yuan,mulberry outlet, is clearly not the law of gambling money gambling behavior and so revoked the decision of the Detention Commission. Peng poly and several other family members are happy to wait for their respective loved ones back home, I did not a few days later, they were told, detention Committee has filed an appeal to the Shenzhen Intermediate People’s Court refused to accept the judgment. ? focus of debate focus is of folk entertainment or gambling Detention Venezuela Peng Hua and other people involved in gambling behavior of profit for the purpose of participation in gambling gambling money,hollister, the circumstances are serious violation of public security management behavior. According to the relevant laws and regulations, shall be re-education through labor. Around these three points, the two sides had a heated debate. The labor camp Venezuela, Peng Hua carry 540 yuan gambling money gambling in public places in a matter of minutes bet three, lost $ 5, he’d bet on “odd and even” behavior, high frequency, fast, win or lose purely based on earnings for the purpose of gambling behavior. Case in a large number of Candu, Peng Hua et al is gathered in broad daylight in a public place for gambling,Developers CEOs ask for rebates 200 million trial _ News, and “incorrigible” plot, July 9 last year due to gambling by the police administrative detention three days later, on his own violations do not repent, because of gambling in a time of less than four months,??? ????, the public security organs seized, the circumstances are serious, according to the law should be sent to re-education through labor,air jordan pas cher. Guoxiang Feng Peng Hua attorney Guangdong-recognized law firm lawyers believe, Peng Hua, who have no business to do just two or three o’clock in the afternoon when together rest. Playing cards or bet in today’s society is a very popular form of entertainment activities, should not be characterized as gambling,hollister. Focus gambling money much count Gambling money much count it Reporter learned from the trial, it should be by the local public security organs according to the actual situation and the local judicial practice, belonging to the discretion of the public security organs. Shenzhen Municipal Public Security Bureau Legal Department issued a “guidance on making full use of re-education through labor means in accordance with the law to strengthen the examination and approval of the re-education through labor” for personal behavior crackdown against illegal gambling money made it clear that “illegal gambling personal gambling money at more than $ 500; due to gambling within one year after being penalized again participate in gambling, personal gambling money in more than 100 yuan. The labor camp Venezuela Peng Hua acts in full compliance with the provisions of gambling gambling money case, lost only $ 5, but that does not change the nature of gambling gambling money. Peng Hua Fang attorney raised, he met Peng Hua, the other said he agreed with fellow playing maximum bet for 5 yuan and not 20 yuan, which he at that time only to prepare 40 yuan as the gambling money rather than 540 yuan, while the police recorded their confessions “gambling money 540 yuan and the maximum bet 20 yuan police handling the case against their will so that in the above press fingerprint illegal content. The labor camp Commission has denied such claims. The lawyers hope to produce a video of the police interrogation process to prove this issue. The lawyer also believes that since the existing laws of the State not clearly defined, should deal with the case in accordance wit
    h the principle of “is not the crime,hollister, no punishment”. Discretion should be legal within the range, even if the internal regulations should also be available to the public. Detention Commission wants the court to revoke the first instance verdict, judgment to maintain its decision by the re-education through labor. And Peng Hua Fangxi look rejected reeducation through labor Venezuela appeal and upheld the first instance verdict. The case will be scheduled for sentencing.

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  906. qvbt7y56p9 May 14, 2013 at 7:39 am #

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  907. kloi2kgquy May 14, 2013 at 7:41 am #

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The stick support, bedroom embedded in the cave Posted by “ghost child” described in the posts, “October 18, my friends and I see in Zhejiang Yuhuan County a very special house, embedded in a cave, a few wood Bedroom support,hollister, below the bedroom is the kitchen, the kitchen and then further to go inside the cave,Female teachers worry about students too ugly to go to the h, there is a puddle, which filled with spring water out of the house near the road, there is a thatched shed, which filled the life of equipment, as well as homeowners picked up bottles of drink. “homeowner is an optimistic uncle of migrant workers, people in Guizhou reported that he was working in the vicinity of a well-known brewery, he has lived in this house for more than two month ,louboutin pas cher…… “the peculiar structure of the house of wisdom from the video information and photos can be seen, the house is situated in the foot of a hill, in a quarry abandoned cave homeowners to build a simple house, house area of ??approximately mold 4 to 5 meters, height of about one meter eighty nine, at the bottom of about half a meter high red brick, and then woven bamboo fences and old bamboo poles surrounded the square type, the roof was “herringbone” is covered with straw, front and on each side of the fan. This is the life of the homeowner living room, inside them pots and pans and other daily necessities,louboutin,15-day-old baby boy by criminals burglary took away 54 hours. Out from the side door next to the cave, relying on a homemade wooden ladder, rock wall around the hole on the cliffs overgrown with weeds and shrubs vertical green vegetation. Homeowners in the construction and ingenuity, narrow caves built bedroom and kitchen,louis vuitton outlet, two storeys structure, taking into account the wet and ingress of rainwater into the cave house, the homeowner sizes bamboo poles, wood supporting the upper the master bedroom is very narrow, barely paved to accommodate a person to sleep a bed, the bed covered with very old bamboo mat, an old blanket and floral bedding did not fold, only too cluttered; lower can be seen to the top of the cave was covered with stones, the hole was a simple gas stove and iron dish pan kitchen utensils … users keep abreast of hot: migrant life is not easy “creative,mulberry, huh special house.” “good thing, winter Warm and cool in summer, do not install air conditioning! “the uncle is very strong, very rich imagination, strong hands.” Friend of migrant workers, over day is really not easy. “” Fortunately, others let live , do an exposure was chased to demolition. “…… netizens to express their views have to keep abreast of. Friend of migrant workers for economic development through a lot of force, should not be forgotten! “Some users believe that the government should increase investment, to protect the housing problems of migrant workers. “C628a”, “Forum Chief CEO” friends so message: “The government should make greater efforts to protect migrant workers,mulberry.” “Local governments to increase investment, invest in building a number of low-rent housing, so that migrant workers can share friends the fruits of reform and opening up, so that ‘Home Ownership’ “there are many users who hold this view believe that migrant workers have made a great contribution to China’s urbanization,mulberry outlet, industrialization and modernization, should have the right to equality the right to share the results of the economic prosperity and social development. There are users that this condition is bitter bitter point, but they can also have fun, as long as the good state of mind, bitter fun. Friends, “old wreck” also specifically elaborates,louboutin pas cher, “a lot of people to do business in Zhejiang, they do not fight life, do not fight enjoy, and fight the accumulation of wealth, the ability to fight if they feel that their ability to not, find someone else RBI business, their squatting Street Shoe, Dengsanlun their accumulation of wealth as the value of his life if to Zhejiang, Yiwu, Wenzhou,abercrombie, to see the elderly Shoe sale of tobacco products to small businesses, “said variable is sitting on hundreds of millions of retired businessman. users tonghua64 of “think out of work hard,air jordan, they earn money to take home, not to afford to live here long, badly only temporary . “users JustBlue” also said, “I do not say, if this is a natural cave or mined, built shacks in this can be really cool! temporary workers is a good place bitter suffering a bit, but cool in summer and warm in winter is also good,louboutin! “netizens concerned about the migrant workers a friend,abercrombie. Cave insects, ah, more humid, long time, easy to get rheumatism. “Friends” thorn knife so the thread,Suspect murder, robbery absconded after 11 years, said his escape and sit.

  908. hy2v2eew2 May 14, 2013 at 12:16 pm #

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  909. kqco21j4x May 14, 2013 at 2:06 pm #

    ” Task force,hollister outlet,Graduated from colle. South seats gas station is located Development Zone, Liangcun,louboutin pas cher, Gang Qiu Lunan seats south of the village 500 meters, close to the mound Town Hill Village, is in the development of the construction area, foreign personnel turnover rate, and crime scene valuable clues, there is little evidence. The task force the site around South seats village, venturi head, North Yap,air jordan pas cher, North seats four villages and factory stores carpet Mopai, and posted reward notices. On June 10, the the Gaocheng Public Security Bureau of Criminal Investigation Brigade police found, Liu Fengjie County of Chongqing man in South seats gas stations played work, before the incident in the vicinity certain Internet cafe Internet,hollister outlet, the incident time left the cafe I do not know whereabouts,louboutin pas cher. After the incident, Liu left the mound head,louboutin. Combined with other evidence, the panel lock Ryu a major crime suspects. The police task force rushed to Fengjie County of Chongqing Liu home,The drivers driving, in Chongqing cooperation with the police, June 29 that Liu may cousin hiding Da village of Pingxiang in Fengjie County, the night police task force rushed to Fengjie County the Da Village Ryu captured,hogan. By the task force Tushen, Liu account of the killed boss cattle Britain, Ma Jincai Fu women facts of the crime. Original,louis vuitton, Liu killed cattle United Kingdom, Ma Jincai Fu Women motive is very simple,abercrombie, just to see someone in order to raise tolls. According to the police, Liu had on two occasions due to theft by public security organs, before the incident, he made a one Shanghai Nvwang,abercrombie, Nvwang series urging him to Shanghai to meet,hogan outlet. At 3:50 on June 7, Ryu out from the cafe, came to South seats near the gas station hiding, he saw the guard left, he sneaked into the gas station, the boss cow Britain, Ma Jincai Fu women killed, robbed of 2800 yuan in cash. Liu fled the scene,mulberry, first met with friends, and then returned to his home Fengjie. In order to escape the police chase, Liu was hiding in the cave of Fengjie County,Man away from home because his wife want to give up custody. At present, the suspect Liu has been under criminal detention, the case is under further investigation,mulberry outlet.

  910. ecp3w9p6v4 May 15, 2013 at 6:01 am #

    ‘s bee farm in the village of Wing On Street building,2 pupils discover a fire shouting to save the people on the, interspersed with dense death Bee side rows of beehives. According to Master Li,hollister, he has 200 boxes of bees,mulberry outlet,Eighty dutiful son every day for the 105-year-old mother pot of herbal tea _ New, the day before yesterday at noon, he found some bees died,air jordan, a closer examination reveals the death of bees still holding pollen group,louboutin pas cher, just returned from mining powder, pollen may be toxic! “Subsequently, he contact with the other seven bee plant, several other similar situation occurs,hollister. Later learned that a large farm at about 2 km from his home,hollister, just hit pesticides,Deputy Secretary for checked drunk driving, injuring press official said the apo, may be relevant. Noon yesterday,mulberry, the number of eight bee plant Bee yet available. Yesterday,hollister, damaged beekeepers came to this farm, the farm workers, a couple of days ago the vegetable really hit pesticides, had been beekeepers talks with the head of the company,louboutin pas cher, vegetable resort to pesticides in the future, will advance communicate with beekeepers, to prevent similar things from happening again,??? ?????.

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  911. sdoa8i905 May 15, 2013 at 7:51 am #

    ‘clock in the afternoon,mulberry outlet, successfully extinguished the fire with branches,louboutin, at this time,toms outlet, the fire brigade has become a painted face,mulberry outlet. ” After the identification of the big fire and public pay homage to cause,hollister. 4 pm on March 30,hollister, Yongxing Town residents Aunt with his family to the village of Union hill memorial,hogan outlet, burning paper money,hogan, too much wind,mulberry, ignite the surrounding trees and weeds,louboutin pas cher. Secret Squadron fire brigade rushed to the scene,ray ban. The local villagers rapid response,hollister france. The final fire was successfully extinguished,mulberry.

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  912. 8b7g7r242e May 15, 2013 at 7:51 am #

    ‘s Court ruled that the case identified Xiaohui a reputation infringement and sentenced to apologize in writing to the village cadres, their parents 696 yuan in compensation. It is understood that this is the first micro-Bo honorary infringement cases,ray ban, the parties have not yet said whether the appeal. In December last year, also under 18 years of Dongguan Xiaohui school students dissatisfied with the village where the village cadres to eradicate the front of his house near the public garden of flowers and trees, the village six village cadres in the implementation of the eradication process photos sent to Sina microblogging, and with the design of dialogue and comments in protest. Related microblogging village cadres involved have to see, I feel very wronged, said on the microblogging words is not what he says, and refers Xiaohui using insulting words on the microblogging,louboutin pas cher. Among them, two village cadres Dongguan City Notary Office involved Sina Weibo account content notary, the microblogging in December last year, made a few group photos and a series of micro-Bo, insulting words. Subsequently, six village cadres Xiaohui alleged reputation infringement grounds that the prosecution to Dongguan City People’s Court. In March this year, the trial of the case,oakley outlet. Recently, Dongguan City People’s case was handed down by the Court for sentencing. Court finds, Xiaohui a reputation infringement Xiaohui during the proceedings, middle-aged at least 18 years of age, the court ruled to six village cadres written apology, compensation of 696 yuan to the village cadres by Xiaohui parents — village cadres notary fees,abercrombie france, litigation the village cadres other claims court is not supported,hollister. It is understood that the two sides have been received the day before the verdict,louboutin pas cher, have not yet said whether to appeal. The focus an account not add “V” bloggers “Xiaohui” In that case, it finds that the identity of the micro-Bobo main system finds an infringement on the premise involved Sina microblogging account did not add “V” real-name authentication,toms outlet, whether the presumption that the defendant Xiaohui for the micro-Bobo main During the trial, the the Xiaohui lawyer and father confirmed involved microblogging Avatar Xiaohui, but denied the microblogging Xiaohui all. And six village cadres microblogging is indeed involved in the case Xiaohui. The court held that the real-name authentication Sina Weibo account plus “V” need to meet certain conditions, not only whether the microblogging account plus “V” as the sole basis of identified bloggers,ray ban pas cher. Case, the defendant Xiaohui confirmed the microblogging account involved the use of the avatar for himself, the microblogging account concerns micro-group “a certain school also Xiaohui schools,hollister uk, and the case involving micro-blog content reflect The relevant circumstances precisely Xiaohui the events of the garden near the house. Based on the above, the court’s final judgment case involving the microblogging account Xiaohui,ray ban, there is no evidence of microblogging content posted by others, it is found involved in micro-blog content is also released Xiaohui. 2 freedom of speech, or reputation infringement The trial lawyer Xiaohui said that even if the micro-blog content the Xiaohui hair, only supervise the behavior of the village cadres,louboutin, Xiaohui have freedom of speech. And the plaintiff village cadres Xiaohui microblogging related words not own statement, untrue,hogan outlet, and the use of insulting words, resulting in damage to his reputation,oakley lunettes. The court held that the case, Xiaohui microblogging in describing village cadres, use the “secretly looking for their own brothers to take signature” dead dog (Corruption village head) …… been greedy village money “and other words with the derogatory nature of personality, and comes with a photo, characteristics with obvious specify a particular object,sac longchamp. The court held that, now there is no evidence to suggest that the 6 plaintiff as village cadres to take the signature, corruption, the defendant applied for the testimony of witnesses not reflect six plaintiffs the behavior, it is the defendant Xiaohui microblogging comments were not true, has gone beyond due to the exercise of the right to freedom of expression and the right of supervision and constitute violations of the right to honor and reputation of others.

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  913. dkhkhv76jq8 May 15, 2013 at 8:01 am #

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  915. uhccq6387kv May 15, 2013 at 10:05 am #

    ‘s central propaganda teams mobilization meeting held in Beijing on the 22nd, the general secretary of the CPC Central Committee Xi Jinping made important instructions. He pointed out that the organizational party’s 48 spirit of the team is a good idea. Seriously ready to participate in the team’s comrades, accurately understand the spirit of the Party and 18 to accurately understand the major theoretical point of view, the major principles and policies of the Party and 18 established,toms outlet, significant work arrangements, and strive to make clear in the chest, with ease. I hope comrades down in close connection with reality, in close connection with the cadres and the masses are thinking, lectures seriously, and strive to layman’s language into the heart and into the brain. Throughout all levels should carry out various forms of propaganda activity, careful organization, to ensure effectiveness, and promote cadres and the masses to unify our thoughts Party and 18 spirit of strength to the tasks of the Party and 18 to determine up . Member of the Standing Committee of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee, secretary of the Secretariat of the CPC Central Committee Liu Yunshan, attended the meeting and delivered a speech. He stressed that the depth study and publicize and implement the spirit of the Party and 18 is the primary political task of the current and future periods, to seriously implement the central deployment, Xi Jinping, earnestly implement the important instructions on the request made by the extensive grassroots-oriented masses preach, promote studying and implementing the party’s 48 spirit boom, to mobilize the whole Party and the people of all ethnic groups in the 48 spirit of party unity of thinking, under the leadership of Xi Jinping as general secretary of the CPC Central Committee, and strive to achieve the party the eighteen proposed the task. Liu Yunshan pointed out that the Party and 18 large our party struggle in the past and once again,louboutin, important meeting for the future,louboutin, learning good publicity, and implement the 18 party spirit,hollister, relations between the party and the country overall,mulberry, the relationship of socialism with Chinese characteristics. The cause of the long-term development. Closely around Comrade Hu Jintao’s report, around Xi Jinping important speech at the eighth session of the Plenary meeting of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee and the Political Bureau of collective learning around the “Constitution of the Communist Party of China (amendment),” preaching the party’s ten-depth Eight spirit. To focus seize the key,hogan, in-depth preach Party and 18 distinct theme, and guide people to firmly grasp and for a period of party and state work requirements; preach depth throughout the eighteen major report highlighting the main line, and guide people unswervingly adhere to the development of socialism with Chinese characteristics; depth preach the scientific concept of development with Deng Xiaoping Theory and the important thinking of the “Three Represents” times the same strain but scientific theory to guide people to a profound understanding of the historical status of the scientific concept of development ; preach depth comprehensive overall objective to build a well-off society in an all-round way and comprehensively deepen reform and opening, and guide people to firmly grasp the new stage in efforts to promote the socialist modernization direction; preach the overall layout of the cause of socialism with Chinese characteristics in depth guide people to firmly grasp the economic construction, political construction, cultural construction, social construction, ecological civilization major deployment,toms shoes; depth preach to comprehensively improve the party’s focus on the task of building a scientific level, and guide people to firmly grasp the new requirements to promote the new great project of Party building. Liu Yunshan pointed to participate in the team’s comrades should fully understand the significance of propaganda activity,hollister france, with a high degree of political consciousness and passion to the implementation of the 18 party spirit preaching task. Reform and development and the cadres and the masses thought should be closely linked to the actual lectures,louboutin pas cher, insist on learning to speak combination of both teaching and learning, to enhance preach targeted effectiveness. To grasp the policy-oriented advocacy fresh and simple style of writing,mulberry outlet, rigorous and vividly proclaim the spirit of the Party and 18. Localities should carefully good the central organizational work of the team, at the same time to grasp the preaching of the multi-level activities to promote the spirit of the Party and 18 enterprises, into the countryside,sac longchamp, into communities,hogan, into the organs into the campus,hogan outlet. Liu Qibao, member of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee, secretary of the Secretariat of the CPC Central Committee Propaganda Department Minister, presided over the meeting. Vice-Chairman of the National Committee of the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference, the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences Dean Chen Kuiyuan attended the meeting. The central propaganda and ideological work of a member of the leading group, a member of the central propaganda teams,oakley, the Central Propaganda cultural units responsible comrades attended the meeting, Party Propaganda Department of the Central Propaganda Department organized the provinces, autonomous regions, and municipalities, lecturer group participants to study and implement the party’s 48 spirit seminars to attend meeting. (Original title: central propaganda teams mobilization meeting was held in Beijing)

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  917. eyhh92tntd May 15, 2013 at 10:13 am #

    ‘s grandfather died last year,20-year-old lottery spend 10 $ 32,350,000 Award _ new, raising a child,air jordan pas cher, for medical treatment for his important task of all falls grandmother Kwong Qing Jiao shoulders. Kwong Qing Jiao debt to relatives last year $ 80,Bar security posing as police charge parking fees,000, with Ray came to Guangzhou to join aunt,louis vuitton outlet, and seek medical advice. Guangzhou General Hospital of Guangzhou Military Region treatment for three months,louboutin, 9 chemotherapy. Fortunately,hogan, after undergoing chemotherapy, tumor finally out, however, the condition continues to deteriorate,louis vuitton. Spring Festival begging on the streets to save grandson recently, Ray went to Children’s Hospital for treatment. After the puncture test, the doctors found that the cancer has not yet killed. According to the Children’s Hospital oncologist: the possibility of cancer has not completely cured, and the toxicity of chemotherapy needle on the human body is not good. Xiaolei body only three courses of chemotherapy treatment, then how governance still do the program . “” We have no money to treat anymore ,louboutin pas cher…… treatment for 10 months in Guangzhou, the borrower all used up. “reporters saw Ray City Children’s Hospital and Kwong grandmother,louboutin pas cher, they are ready for discharge,hollister. Aunt Miss Gong, in order to raise medical expenses for the children, during the Spring Festival,louboutin, the old Kwong grandmother braved the cold in the Guangzhou Railway Station, begging passers-by thought she was a liar, the day,mulberry, only to discuss to 5 dollars,hollister outlet. “I hope well-intentioned person can help them,Trafficking gangs designed stare street children unattended.” Aunt said Ms. Gong. Donors: an avid reader of the intention to lend a helping hand,air jordan, please call the contact Ray’s aunt, Miss Gong Siqing,hogan outlet.

  918. xvc5vi6gee May 15, 2013 at 10:18 am #

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  919. bghyu890nd May 15, 2013 at 5:43 pm #

    RIKEN scientists another cell to T lymphocytes lasting killing capacity,longchamp, they are the cells in the experimental re-encoding induced pluripotent stem cells (referred to as “iPS cells”), followed by scientists recycling iPS cells generated with a fully active, longer survival time of the “killer” T lymphocytes,louboutin pas cher, greatly improving the likelihood that kill cancer cells. “We have successfully re-encoding iPS cells prolong the survival time of T cells,sac longchamp,” Dr,abercrombie. Kawamoto ho presided over the study said, “Next, we will these T cells whether the cancer cells selectively killing carried test, that does not kill cancer cells while damage to other cells,oakley, if they have this ability, then soon after these cells can be directly injected into cancer patients for adjuvant therapy,abercrombie. “” The study created a kind of groundbreaking, cell-based cancer treatments, “the senior lecturer in stem cell science curriculum professor at King’s College London, said Dusko Ilic Dr.,” While conducting formal clinical trials before, but also requires a lot of test work,ray ban uk, but the current data,ray ban, the prospects of this technology is still worth looking forward to, at the same time the study will undoubtedly win new opportunities for the development of cell therapy and customized therapy,abercrombie pas cher. “(Editor: Zhang Jun)

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  920. gh123220r0e May 15, 2013 at 5:47 pm #

    ‘s Office,Two thugs armed robbery jewelry store robbed value of more t, the crime of misappropriation of funds, Qiumou prosecution. Wisdom lottery should buy Tongnan Qiumou,??? ?????, South Bank Area in tire sales from January 2009, the face of large and small dealers of approximately 100. Qiu said his spare no bad habits,hollister, is like the lottery, beginning only buy up to tens of dollars. Later heard what there Lottery awards, he never in,mulberry, he began to feel that they buy too little, the probability of winning is too low, and began to cast a wide net, a variety of lottery to buy, but every time to spend several hundred thousand dollars. As a result, not enough money in his pocket. A buy is a few thousand dollars Qiumou, although in principle,mulberry outlet, allow sales staff collecting money, but there is no strictly prohibited. May 14, 2009, he received a payment of Wulong Area dealer Zhan 3200, and turned to the Nanping four kilometers, all the money spent on lottery tickets; July 20 of the same year, he received the Fuling Area dealer SuMou payment of 2988 yuan, in Fuling local banknotes into a lottery …… more and more due to the misappropriation of money, he was not the only hopes in the big prize in the lottery, so he privately receive payment,louboutin pas cher, and received more and more money. Prosecution allegations, from May 2009 to the end of November 2009, Qiu carrying a charged 15 Pen payment,mulberry, a total of 6.8 million yuan. When the end of the year, the company Reconciliation,5-year-old girl was teacher boyfriend obscene ruptured hymen, found the money gap,air jordan pas cher, Qiu embezzlement surfaced. Farmer and the Snake modern version of the boss immediately report. Qiu pleaded boss gave him a chance, he must redouble our efforts in the future work, wages slowly returned to the company. The kind of boss put his horse. However, not long before Qiumou and began to buy lottery tickets, and once again put his hand to the purchase price. The dealer said he deceived his tire is the company’s stock price to them than the price of a much lower, this lure dealers money hit his personal card, or pay cash,air jordan. From July 2010 to the end of December 2010, Qiu succeeded to 33.8 million yuan. 40 million yuan for naught proprietress said the end of 2010, reconciliation and to the end of the year, Qiu reason to travel abroad, etc. back to the company, they soon found that Qiu private trade receivables. January 6 this year, the boss finally found Qiumou, and seized and turned over to public security organs. Qiu said,mulberry outlet, after spending 40 million yuan to buy lottery tickets, only a few thousand dollars in prize. South Bank District Prosecutor’s Office Qiu The unit, capital of 40 million yuan,mulberry, a huge amount, their behavior has violated China’s “Criminal Law”, then submitted to prosecute the crime of misappropriation of funds, to be held criminal responsibility. Don Robinson,The youth parents divorced severe depression to sleep at hom, the Chongqing Evening News chief reporter intern reporter Zhang Kids

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  921. 22966scjhd May 15, 2013 at 5:49 pm #

    ‘s gasoline release, and trying to be lit with a lighter body. Traffic police department the Union City CDPF and other departments yesterday of Anzhoudadaobei motor tricycle massive concentration and control, as of 15:00 yesterday, the traffic police department sent 40 police withheld the 15 Wupaiwuzheng motor tricycles and 17 two motorcycle ,hogan. The owners tried to burn the car to anti-law yesterday, the reporter found in the Anzhoudadaobei Nanfang Hospital, the door resurgence of restrictions on road electric vehicles, motorcycles, tricycles and other vehicles, swaggering on the road back to start passenger business,oakley. Nanfang Hospital,ray ban uk, the door of a security guard told reporters that strict traffic police, these illegal vehicles on the road less,ray ban; traffic police to these cars back on the road again by doing business. “I can not stand, who see my soliciting ” 3 o’clock yesterday afternoon,ray ban, in front of Avenue North and subdistrict offices, a tattered motor tricycle traffic police to intercept. Driver temperature of a Lai is not to get off in the car. “You see, my legs can not stand,abercrombie,” He took out the phone constantly playing. In this case,abercrombie paris, a modified motor tricycle coming from the north to the south, to be caught by the traffic police is significant. Driver Wang said aloud, “I do not steal or rob, and earn a living just grasping why ” Wang emotion, constantly being opened punishment notice the traffic police said,hogan, “Do not drive, open it useless, the car I do not. “to take advantage of the presence of traffic police do not pay attention, Wang suddenly the motor vehicle fuel tank lid open, put a lot of gasoline on the floor and the body of the vehicle and tried to use the hands of the lighter ignited the car is next the staff is a push. Wang told reporters,hogan outlet, the Zheliang motorized tricycle every day can earn tens of dollars, to pay a fine of $ 2000 to get back in the deduction of the traffic police,hollister, prefer not car,louboutin. Police appealed to the public not to take the traffic police detachment in Guangzhou Baiyun a brigade squadron leader told reporters, law enforcement often encounter with the owners of the excesses of resisting law enforcement, these motor tricycle,hollister, motorcycle speed,louboutin, engaged in illegal trading activities on the road, likely to cause security hazard,longchamp. The traffic police department urged people not to take the type of car, these cars are not living space.

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  922. a3q1umm1i May 15, 2013 at 6:12 pm #

    ‘s annual report that the 2009-2010 school year the number of Chinese students studying in the U.S. surged 30 percent to nearly 128,000, making China the first time international students country of origin. India,louboutin pas cher, in recent years has been among the top bit of the last school year the number of students studying in the United States declined slightly, only lO million people, Peggy – Blumenthal, executive vice president of the Institute of International Education, said: “the number of students from China soared,oakley, because of the rapid development of China’s economy but India, also the rapid development of its economy,abercrombie france, to the number of studies in America has only increased by 1.6% and I think a factor is that many Chinese families with significant disposable income (parents have a job,ray ban, only one child), and species to ensure that children receive the best education possible and to invest their money to the determination of the kids,louboutin. “said New York University international students and scholars office stifled director David Austell Chinese college students mainly from the large coastal cities in China. He said, because they do not qualify for financial assistance such as American students do, so often have to pay the full tuition,longchamp. Their increasing number of more Chinese families has a strong sign of economic strength. However, last year, not all countries to the United States the number of students increased. 15% compared with the previous year, the decline in the number of students from Japan, Mexico,abercrombie, India, Indonesia Virginia decreased by 7-9%. The Associated Press reported on the 15th, according to a report published today,hogan outlet, more and more American students to study in non-traditional ports in Chile, Peru and the like, while American universities to recruit more and more students from China,ray ban. Chinese citizens in International Studies in cattle in the United States accounted for about 19%,toms shoes, this proportion is higher than any other country in any other country. India and South Korea occupy the second and third place, l5% and 10%, respectively. United States Assistant Secretary of State for Educational and Cultural Affairs Ann Stoke tax in a statement: “international education so that they do a good job to become the leader of their own country and society.” Executive vice president of the Institute of International Education Peggy Blumenthal said, in the 2008-2009 school year,oakley, more than 260,000 American students to study abroad, the number of students decreased slightly over the previous year, perhaps because of the recession. She said, the researchers expected the Americans to study abroad next year will increase. While most Americans are studying in the UK, Italy and Spain, but the popularity of these countries since the 2007-2008 school year has been on the decline,louboutin pas cher. American students increased largest countries, including Peru, South Korea and Chile, followed by Argentina and South Africa. Blumenthal said the growing interest in non-traditional destinations, due in part to the professional choices of students increasingly widespread. She said the students majoring in public health can go to South Africa to study AIDS-related knowledge, students majoring in business can go to China, and environment majors south learning. She pointed out that some of these countries have attractive because of their low cost of living,hollister. Institute of International Education, President and CEO Allen – Goodman said, the English-speaking countries, more and more Americans to go to more places. Goodman said. 10 or 15 years ago, you can not go to France or Germany, unless you have a very fluent in French or German, English opened the door to the world. “Received international students in the United States than any other country in the Ministry – last year reached 691,000. The number of international students in the United States increased by 26% over the past 10 years. Experts believe that this shows the attractiveness of Higher Education in America. Most foreign students in the United States to study business and management, followed by engineering, physical and life science, again mathematics and computer science. According to the U.S. Department of Commerce said their tuition, accommodation and meals and other expenses contributed $ 20 billion to the U.S. economy,abercrombie.

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  923. soesmx5zh May 15, 2013 at 6:24 pm #

    ‘s Armed Police General Hospital bed,mulberry outlet, his hands clasped the hand of her boyfriend Xiao Zhou face on was filled with a happy smile. Because her boyfriend’s actions after the accident, she was very sweet,hollister. The day before yesterday evening at 50 pm,??? ????, two people riding electric car to go home,mulberry, traveling to Fuzhou Dian Nanping West Road, rear-end collision with a silver car,louboutin pas cher. Small beauty spot was thrown from the back seat, Xiao Zhou were the car with more than 10 meters,??? ?????, had numerous injuries, his mouth bled. However, people moved, Xiao Zhou, after getting up from the ground, call 120, they stumbled and ran toward the small U.S. side. 120 emergency personnel arrived, Xiao Zhou,hollister, regardless of the arm bled to health care workers shouting “save her first save her!” 50-year-old Liu Barenboim witnessed the trouble made the scene, whooped really touching: Male from the ground up, the edge of the mouth, the arm,s fantasy to succeed in the Public Security Bureau deputy director of arson chop, the blood on the clothes, but rushed towards 78 meters away and rushed to see his girlfriend lying on the ground do not speak, the men kept shaking her hand, shouting her the name of the night 10:30 Xu, the Armed Police General Hospital emergency ward, the United States learned just sober boyfriend to rescue themselves,Salesman to buy the IPO fraud more than a thousand people mo,air jordan, refused to allow nurses to view the wound, the face again in the sweet shy smile. Little said the United States, they fell in love four years,The peasant couple reported 19 years ago, the kindness of care for stroke Couple, is a native of Fuzhou, 22-year-old Xiao Zhou although a year younger than themselves, life like their elders. According to the emergency department physicians, Xiao Zhou back and leg contusion multiple,air jordan pas cher, small Mainz feel back discomfort, temporary lay in bed, hands and legs also a slight contusion. According to the crime scene police, the driver has to cooperate with the police investigation, the case is still under further processing,mulberry outlet.

  924. weyu24pxobrc May 15, 2013 at 6:29 pm #

    ‘s office was informed that 2009 4 4 20 22, Xu, Riverside Road,Published hundreds of old fake paper price of 400 yuan for teachers, in Hekou County, a non-police officers driving Yangming Wu borrowed from the police station, deputy director of Mitsubishi off-road police car collided with the side of a two motorcycles, resulting in superior motorcycle uploaded 3 people were injured,abercrombie, two of the injured being treated in hospital,Dozens of residents thumbprint real name to report three village cadres corrupti, an injured skin abrasions, Yangming Wu after the accident driving escape Hekou County Public Security Bureau arrested. At 20:28 on April 4,louboutin, Hekou County Public Security Bureau command center received a public warning: Riverside Road, a police car bumped a motorcycle escape. Alarm,The unemployed man posing as five female college students in, the command center immediately assigned to the traffic police brigade Chengguan police station, the police,hollister, the police rushed to the scene in time to send three injured County People’s Hospital for treatment. Meanwhile, according to eyewitness the vehicle characteristics,hollister outlet, notify the police station along erecting checkpoints. 22 o’clock that night, Hekou County Public Security Bureau, the city police station, police found a Mitsubishi off-road police car (license plate number of cloud G0255 Police) parked in the 326 line side of the road, no one in the car,louboutin pas cher, the front of the car collision traces preliminary determination car is hit-and-run vehicle. Upon inquiry, the vehicles all Yuanyang County Public Security Bureau. After the incident,louis vuitton outlet, the State Public Security Bureau and estuaries,hogan outlet, Yuanyang counties Public Security Bureau attaches great importance to set up a special investigation team, rapid investigation and evidence collection,louboutin pas cher, to organize the arrest of the perpetrators in Kaiyuan City hotel in the early morning of April 7, 35 Jianshui County, bifurcated Branch Township A Peng-year-old village hall Li Zhai Yangming Wu captured. Yangming Wu, male, 35 years old,louboutin, people of the the for Jianshui County, bifurcated Branch Township A Peng village hall Li Zhai. Before doing business in Yuanyang County in Spring Ling holds a driver’s license. The the Accident fact confessed, public security organs have been Yangming Wu arrested for traffic escape criminal detention. Preliminary investigation: April 4, Yuanyang County Public Security Bureau police station Daping, deputy director of the division of the Far East with friends Yangming Wu went to the estuary for personal reasons, the night, the Far East division unauthorized police car lent Yangming Wu out, 20:22 Xu,louis vuitton, Yangming Wu to Riverside Road, with a two-wheel motorcycle (license plate number of cloud HE3850) side collision,air jordan pas cher, resulting in Daiei on the motorcycle (male, 35 years old), Caiguang Feng (female, 66 years old), He bell Lufthansa ( female, 6 years old) lying on the ground, Yangming Wu driving the police car motorcycle driving escape the implementation of about 5 meters. The night of the murder, after hearing the news of Yuanyang County Public Security Bureau, the Bureau and rushed to the estuary county hospital to visit the injured. At present, the injured receive timely medical treatment, the injury is basically stable,louboutin pas cher. The same time, Yuanyang County Public Security Bureau decision: stop unauthorized driving the police car lent to non-police officers,mulberry outlet, deputy director of the division of Yuanyang County Public Security Bureau police station Daping Far East to carry out their duties, according to discipline in accordance with regulations accountability. (City Times)

  925. asqwedsc5 May 15, 2013 at 6:32 pm #

    ‘s Talk” program, members of the public to the decades suffered the pain of the flooding Lin Yi bowed low. City First People’s Hospital quarters long-term flooding “our place, after heavy rains, dip, fast or ten years.” Said Lin Yi, who lives in Guangzhou First Municipal People’s Hospital dormitory walls at home are bubbles due to long-term flooding rotten. Lin Yi most worried is not furniture, but the meter of the first floor. “Last time it rains, the water has already dipped into the lower end of the meter box,longchamp, if a little higher, it may cause leakage.” Said Lin Yi, in this month in the middle of the night, heavy rain triggered flooding again, she and her 70-year-old his wife did not dare step on the floor and did not dare to stay in bed, the old couple had to sit on the table night,oakley outlet. When you see the dilemma of Lin Yi from the lens, Ding Qiang arose from his seat. “Whatever the reason, so when our fathers of old people, because of flooding on the table sat a overnight long as Water Authority have a guilty conscience, disturbed in mind, I also take this opportunity to apologize to your elderly.” Having said Ding Qiang to sit in the scene Lin Yi bowed low,sac longchamp. Ding Qiang said that the long-term cause of flooding in the First Municipal People’s Hospital quarters is that the plot is too low-lying terrain. Throughout the district to 3-5 meters lower than the ground outside, almost an entire low-the layer itself Subdistrict Network closing waterborne flawed. Plus the nearby the West Ho tidal bore water backwater, making become a flooding blackspots. Yesterday afternoon after the end of the program, the Municipal Water Drainage Department organized the relevant units and a hospital quarters affected people convened the scene will be handled,ray ban, organization and implementation as soon as possible. Before the implementation of the program of the renovation project,abercrombie france, the municipal and district levels, the water department set up a joint a drainage rescue team, armed rescue the dormitory area of ??the city, a hospital, and maximize reduce flooding affected the degree. “Do not let the residents Yiyewumian happening again,ray ban!” Ding Qiang said. Ishii River again refuse flooding Water cleaning staff stood on the bow of the boat, to salvage a large garbage floating slowly to the ship,hogan, and the river in front of him, in addition to garbage floating in a block of black patches …. Ishii River flood control model of Guangzhou one lens reflect whether that Ishii River pollution control achievements has been “prodding” “Ding Qiang explained, Ishii River main Bay has achieved all sewage interception, but the Shijing River Basin more than 70 large and small branch Bay, the 2010 flood, these branch Chung taken temporary interception that Chongkou set the Sewage Interception Gateway branch Chung sewerage to the sewage treatment plant. Sunny, Ishii River sewage flows; encountered heavy rain but, in order to ensure the Interception and gates had to open the flood discharge branch Chung, such as rainwater and sewage inrush current from the branch to the main Bay,ray ban uk, Ishii River caused pollution. Ding Qiang, frankly, the creek the Interception and cut to what extent, is directly related to the local economic and financial resources. Ishii River Bay interception in future support certainly is to be done, but must be based on the financial strength of the Guangzhou City, but in order of priority step by step to do. The program also exposed some time ago, Haizhu District, West Lu Chung black stank. Ding Qiang, the West Lu Chung black smelly is an isolated incident, because on the 15th of this month – 17 the Lek cellar sewage treatment plant discharge gate maintenance downtime. The downtime happened to encounter during a rainstorm, the municipal pipe network which fit so much rain and sewage water sector had to open the the West Lu Chung emergency brake, resulting in the pollution of the West a busy Chung. The owners owe water charges caused by the roll-out of long-term water and the Baiyun the District with Kang Kangying Graceland owners Mr. Zhang reflect, since November 2011, they plot a few shops on the first floor is without water, because the shop owners do not pay seven water bills. “I have a pavement, with more than 100 tons of water per month,abercrombie, but in accordance with the requirements of the water company, we have to share a cell leakage water bills I have to pay ten thousand dollars, this reasonable ” Ding Qiang explained that the water company in accordance with the total metering residential water consumption, and users in accordance with the water submetering. Leakage due to the residential pipe network exists, the sum of the points table water tend to be lower than the total table water consumption, the leakage rate is normal should be about 3% -5%. , But the Hong Ying Graceland leakage rate has reached 50%. “This may indicate that the cell inside the pipe network there may be a lot of leakage does not rule out some steal water behavior.” Ding Qiang site requires the person in charge of the water company immediately the Hong Ying Graceland shop owners to restore the water supply. The district pipeline leakage and the problem of non-payment of water charges, can next be resolved through consultation,toms outlet. Mr. Zhang also reflect, they require water companies to the shops in the installation of water meters in order to pay their water bills, but that the supply of the leadership they must one-time pay water charges to install water meters. Ding Qiang, a table can not be tied up with the arrears problem. Yesterday afternoon, after the end of the program, the reporter a return visit of Mr. Zhang. Mr. Zhang said, three o’clock yesterday afternoon, the Water Authority in accordance with Dingju Zhang promised to go without water shops water pipe connection, you can restore the water supply, the municipal water company. ? scene three asked the water pass rate of 98.94% Q: Recently, a message that says “the national census tap pass rate of only 50%, Guangzhou tap water pass rate Ding Qiang: the Guangzhou water sources all standards, to 20 months in advance of the new national drinking water quality standards. Municipal Water Authority for the entire tap water diversion, production, water supply and secondary water supply of the city center were closely monitored, currently the city’s total set of 64 factory water testing,mulberry outlet, water quality monitoring point of the 188 centers of urban water supply, 20-line water quality monitoring point. In 2011, the city’s water quality and the passing rate of 98.94 percent, the central city water pass rate of 99.97%, so rest assured. 1265 villages secondary water improvement Q: how rural water Guangzhou how many villages useless on tap Improve sewage treatment facilities in rural areas have no plan Ding Qiang: Guangzhou, a total of, 1265 villages water is not enough, the need for secondary water improvement,oakley outlet, the total involved population is 120 million people. In rural areas this year for 50 million capital plan in 2015, all the villages once change the water and secondary water improvement solve all. Rural sewage treatment problems, we also carried out for the entire rural a survey completed in 2015, in accordance wi
    th the plan. Flooding emergency would rather run three asked not to be missed: Gangding old flooding point is good governance, but some flooding point, such as the Milky Way interchange like than before flooding more serious. When can rain flooding Ding Qiang: flooding for three reasons: First, Guangzhou in recent years, storm intensity, frequency, which increased significantly than before, the urban heat island effect and stormwater island effect intensified. With urbanization, Guangzhou quickly hardground, all the water influx municipal drainage system, overwhelmed. Third, Guangzhou drains from the Republic to the present, a variety of tubes have no problem to open a museum on the original design criteria, the entire drainage system behind. Flooding of governance, the measures we have taken are: first, from the engineering solution, for example, Tianhe Interchange, we have built an open channel, plus a pumping station, and greatly ease the flooding situation, even so, I can not guarantee It will no longer be flooding. Second, the technical measures, that is,cheap oakley, urban drainage from the row and strong emission combined. Third, management measures, the rainy season will pipeline strengthen sexual dredging, strengthen the site enforcement, thorough investigation of illegal discharges; There is a linkage with the meteorological department to carry out emergency measures as early as possible prevention, I told drainage rescue team members said, would rather run ten times, which did not run and do not be flooding. Nanfang Daily reporter had ni intern Zhu Ziyu correspondent Lu Shaokun

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  926. usbbqu030v May 15, 2013 at 6:34 pm #

    ‘ou water Township, a 16-year-old girl missing for 15 days in the mountains, legitimate Search gradually lose hope, mountain firewood villagers accident in more than 30 km in deep forests found her, but this time in addition to the hands and feet were mosquito bites and scratches, the girl’s body does not matter. “These days, I live by feeding on wild bayberry survive.” When memories from the people trapped inaccessible mountains of the two-week experience,louboutin, the girl, then we are surprised. Experts said that the self-help is very important to get lost in the wild. Dozens of people searching the mountain two weeks to find the missing girls to no avail, “it is a miracle.” When the the Jian’ou City Village police station, the reporter contacted yesterday, director of Hong Jianhui, he exclaims, July 4 afternoon, he connected in the mountains back to this girl named Little Miss,hogan, missing for 15 days in the mountains, we all thought that there is no hope of finding her,louis vuitton. “Hong Jianhui told reporters the morning of June 20, they received near Dongfeng Town,hollister outlet, alarm information , a 16-year-old girl lost in the mountains, “alarm two men up the mountain and girls the night of the 19th, three people lost in the process of looking for the next mountain, two men and girls become separated, the result 2 man find their way down the mountain to its eastern town of alarm. “According to the description of the two men, when they lost the location is likely in the Dragon Village area, and in Jian’ou, Jianyang, governance and the three cities (counties) junction, is an extension of the Wuyi Mountains, “are inaccessible deep forests, especially some steep mountain terrain, there is no road, even the local villagers are rarely able to go up.” After receiving the alarm, Lung Tsuen police station immediately organized police Search the day there are dozens of civilian police, village cadres and villagers up the mountain, a hill to start the search, complex terrain, coupled with dense forests, then either familiar with the terrain of the villagers to lead the way, the search and rescue people are likely to get lost. ” down days, every day up the mountain to find a find a whole day. But a few days off and found no traces of the girl’s disappointment gradually spread out. However, in the afternoon of July 3, police received a call from a villager: “I met a girl in a very remote village of Wu Forest hills firewood, much like you are looking for people . “police immediately uphill climb the mountain road after a few hours,mulberry, they saw the girl, dirty, worn clothes, hands and feet full of bags and a Road scratch mosquito bites, looks very weak, walking rickety, speak no effort to just speak their own for too many days did not eat very hungry stomach. Police rushed to the girl fetched food, will she bring down the final confirmation, she is a small land, this time from her disappearance has been a full over the past 15 days. Police told reporters that she lost places to be found in the hills, across the Dongfeng, Long village, township, straight line distance of over 30 kilometers. Hungry to eat wild bayberry, thirsty to drink stream climbed a tree at night to sleep on July 5, received the news of Little Miss family rushed to the Dragon Village police station, the family cried. After a physical examination, a small land addition to the frail, hands and feet were mosquito bites and scratches, does not matter. Yesterday, the reporter contacted a small land, she said that after one day of rest, I feel much better, but still no strength. Little Miss recalled the evening of June 19, she and three friends went to Long Village playing on the road a friend go first, then we went hiking, climbing two or three hours, we climbed to the top of a hill , and then not find one. want to retrace their steps down days too dark, also can not find the way. “3 almost stand to spend a night, and at dawn they split up to find the way down the mountain,hogan outlet, and the agreement Every little while shouting loudly, the Start can still hear their cries, and later increasingly weak voice, I followed the sound to find in the past, to see anyone, woods too close. “In this way, a small land lost in the mountains, find the direction, climb up the hill with the feeling and want to find a high place to look if there is no road. “Lu said day mountain climb, do not know where are , surrounded by woods. In the evening, very afraid,abercrombie france, very hungry stomach, sitting under a tree asleep. “the morning of the third day, Lu found nearby with trees wild arbutus, eat bayberry feel less hungry stomach. “hill can not find other eat, only to find bayberry.” small Lu said she was looking for a day, you can find yourself to walk out of the jungle, “do not want to die in the mountains inside, “said the little land, the first few days she was able to walk around looking for down the road, then there is no strength to walk, the next ten days,air jordan pas cher, hungry to find bayberry eat, thirsty to drink ravine water. afraid to night beast, climbed a tree, lying on a tree branch to sleep for a while. “Little Miss, the wild bayberry also feel and taste very sour, but then hungry,abercrombie, do not feel wild bayberry unpalatable particularly want to down home, want to live, someone will come and save me. “until 15 days later, Lu heard nearby came the sound, she supported walked in that direction. See people saved himself feeble, and fell to the ground. “Little Miss said, she just wanted to eat more rice,” dream dream in the mountains at dinner,mulberry outlet. “Wild adventure to teach you self-help method Yesterday, the reporters ask about first aid doctor. They said,abercrombie, bayberry flesh higher sugar content, and contains a certain amount of water, protein, fat, and Little Miss find hydration, which are to provide her with the most basic survival requirements. At the same time, trapped in the mountains, the small land reduced physical activity such as walking, the preservation of the physical She eventually rescued. “The most important is that the girl did not give up the faith to live.” Told reporters,louboutin, has long been engaged in a wild adventure in the wild disoriented, not flustered first worry, calm look at the scenery around, will be in the nature find many identify direction signs, such as the direction of the rising sun,louboutin pas cher. If you could not find the original way up the mountain, you can attempt to find a stream, walking along the streams. General stream will eventually brought out of the mountains, “it is best to leave a mark through the place that rescuers can find you as soon as possible.”

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  927. vbghfgf3z9a9 May 15, 2013 at 6:49 pm #

    ‘clock yesterday morning,hogan outlet, you cleared the highway the Guiyang direction sections with traffic accidents, a trailer and a van collided, resulting in the van severely deformed compression, five women on board were killed,oakley, driver seriously injured,and under the tutelage of Professor Xu Yi. ? reporter Nosocomiology the photo coverage ? site: van compressional deformation reporters rushed to the scene, the section of the incident is in your Qing (Guiyang Qingzhen) Expressway to Guiyang direction from the lamp lawn tunnel is 500 meters. Only one section of the incident ultra-lane available for traffic,hogan outlet, vehicles compare congestion. The scene,louboutin, a red van is a trailer squeezed severely deformed, the van has been cut decomposition bodywork inside and outside is full of broken glass, parts and components, as well as traces of blood. The five bodies placed in the slow lane,Haobao Ming, with a blue disposable plastic sheeting to cover the,abercrombie paris,and dress themselves in fancy dress.. The deceased all women, cordon inside and outside, are surrounded by a lot of people. Traces of friction between the tires and in the field behind the slow lane, a few meters long after traces of the protective wall of the side of the road to the right, then serious scratch marks, the distance trailer stopped position about two meters, along everywhere broken glass and vehicle parts. ? reflect: the van trailer pushing forward the scene more than the masses, the time of the incident between 8:00 Guiyang nationality van was bad in the slow lane, overhaul, the car do not want to wait for other vehicles to go on the ride , and the remaining five ladies and a driver,ray ban. Unexpectedly, followed by Anhui membership approaching trailer crashed into a van, and then forward the implementation of change stopped only to hit a roadside fence to implement some distance along the retaining wall scratch. After the incident,ray ban, received alarm fire officers and traffic police rushed to the scene, the van squeezed severely deformed,hogan, the fire brigade cut the car body will be people carried away, but five women have died on the spot, the injured driver was rushed to hospital rescue,hollister. Subsequently,hogan, the funeral home vehicles rushed to the scene, the relevant personnel wishing remains away, first arrived on the scene of one of the victims of the families stopped,sac longchamp, “I want other families of the victims of Kazakhstan scene”, said the families of the victims. In the field, bought the paper money and incense to the families of the victims,hollister, first rushed to the victims’ families of the victims to hold up an umbrella shade, four families of the victims, rushed known after another until after more than 13:00. The ? progress: after the withdrawal of specific consultations to solve the problem 14:30 Xu, the departments concerned, after consultation with the family of the deceased, agreed to the first remains sent to a funeral home, and then specific consultations to solve the problem. The funeral car remains were transported had gone,hollister france, the scene began to gradually be lifted,louboutin pas cher. Reporters yesterday 17:00 from Jinyang Hospital was informed that the van driver injury is more serious, and still in the rescue. Currently, the case is still under further investigation in progress. (Original title: 5 Ms. van died)

  928. hfro20d7qe8 May 15, 2013 at 7:02 pm #

    ‘tide’,mulberry, a debut will be sought after by a gang of “surge”. Booth called “God horse trading” hang out “God horses are clouds, trading is king” slogan,louboutin. In addition to the force “,” gas field “have been widely used. “Green Taobao”,toms outlet, “Jane Pu Village”, “Fortunately,mulberry outlet, clothes to sell it,” absolute “unconventional name embodies all students imagination and the ability to accept new things,hollister france. “Taobao Street” at 9:00 on December 10 to 13:00,mulberry outlet, 51 stalls sold a total of more than 20,000 yuan. The sophomore classes Cookie students said: Who says we only know that “dead” on studying,abercrombie france, college entrance examination pressure,hollister outlet, but we are always living standards,mulberry. West Division High School Principal Zhang Wanqiong said, “Happy barter for fostering children’s sense of integrity,mulberry, normative consciousness and commodities awareness is very meaningful,louis vuitton,” the donation of the proceeds from the sale will be donated to the family is difficult,louboutin pas cher, but outstanding students,ray ban pas cher. “West middle school teachers organized barter activities, the students through the bazaar second-hand goods to raise funds for the poor mountain children

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  929. juhpt84jiuz May 15, 2013 at 7:06 pm #

    ‘s Court hearing of the case. It is reported that this is the largest amount ever counterfeit money case in Ningbo. The chicken traders resell counterfeit 46-year-old Lee Hunan Yongzhou market the Ngan Sau County town before coming to Ningbo, a vegetable market in the town of Ngan Sau wholesale business of live chickens, because the market is not good, and came to work in Ningbo,abercrombie. In 2001,air jordan, Lee, because the crime of counterfeit money held by the Jiangbei court sentenced to 1 year and 2 months. Last year, he began to return to prostitution year sales of 41 million counterfeit money. Spring Festival this year, Lee home for the holiday, in the home of the restaurant for dinner, met relatives Hemou. Hemou has been working in Tianjin, three years ago due to the sale of counterfeit money crimes Tianjin Dongli District Court sentenced to two and a half years in prison. At the dinner table, Lee Hemou said, have a lot of counterfeit money in a lump sum, afraid to go to Guangdong brought back, or you can make a small fortune,louboutin. Hemou one, immediately volunteered to go. They made an appointment transported to the amount of counterfeit money Ningbo shot. The Hemou responsible for the purchase, he was responsible for sales, profits divided into 55 because of the high risk of purchase,hollister outlet, Hemou can also get commissions. Seller: counterfeit money scale theory pounds wholesale after the New Year, Lee and Hemou from Guangdong has bought back 120 million yuan of counterfeit money, the nominal value of 10 yuan to 100 yuan in all. Among them, 100 yuan face value of the counterfeit money some time ago rumors money detector can fool the HD90 currency “; 20 yuan counterfeit money and the simulation of the 10 yuan counterfeit money or even better than the HD90 currency. Purchase back from Guangdong, Lee process but also on the counterfeit money,louboutin. He has a wooden template, designed to counterfeit money Distressed. Counterfeit money better shot. Lucrative counterfeit money, like a hundred dollars face value of counterfeit money, the purchase price is 2.7 yuan each and selling price is 4-5 yuan each,hollister outlet, 20 yuan face value of the counterfeit money sold for 2.8 yuan a 10 yuan face value of the counterfeit money to sell one to two yuan. In order to deceive the public, Lee and others in the trading of counterfeit money with people of different denominations of counterfeit money were compiled trade secret codes, such as 100 yuan counterfeit money is known as “red”, 20 yuan counterfeit money, known as the “Duck”. Lee selling counterfeit money has a special rule: because the money is too much trouble, he generally scales on the pounds wholesale. Such as transaction-million counterfeit money is said to buy a pound of red “or” pound of ducklings,hollister. Buyer: designed by the use of counterfeit money to live temporarily Yuyao Zhu Lee’s next home. He purchased from Lee at more than 20 million counterfeit money,abercrombie, most of which are 20 yuan face value. From the beginning of December last year, visiting the food market has become one of the most enthusiastic thing Zhu. As long as it is to buy food back, the basket is always fish and meat, very rich. Zhu wife sometimes feel bad money, rebuke him,abercrombie france, saying, “the family has three children, money and Nanzhuan, there is no need to eat so good”. Zhu turn a deaf ear to this, because he used the money to buy food are counterfeit money,louboutin. He always picked in the morning and evening, this time, the market often busy business, dimly lit, and relatively easy to succeed. Even occasionally missed, he would immediately in exchange for real currency counterfeit money,louboutin pas cher, most of the food market stall holders and hold harmless. To the counterfeit money paid out as soon as possible, Zhu like an ant farms to move back Youyanjiangcu. The time of the incident, investigators from his temporary room and found a room full of seasonings. The friends family behind bars March 2009, Lee, together with a total of 401,mulberry,600 yuan Hemou purchased from Lufeng City, Guangdong face value of 20 yuan counterfeit money, agreed by Hemou shipped to Ningbo, the Hemou carrying counterfeit money to Ningbo after being caught red-handed. A few days later, Lee and his next home have been arrested. Together with them in prison under the age of 18-year-old son Lee. Police for fear of being found, he had called his son to send goods. Lee’s friends Alin couple’s Procuratorate because the sale of counterfeit money along to the sale, purchase counterfeit money crimes prosecution. In court, Arlington couple the damage to social and family expressed remorse for their actions,hogan. The court will choose sentencing proceeding.

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  930. c77ih0fo7 May 15, 2013 at 7:12 pm #

    ‘s Minister of Higher Education,hollister, Joyce said,louboutin pas cher,The Shandong Weifang groundwater pollution rectifi, the problem of forged documents is not just for China,longchamp, “I do not want to,Guangdong dial 100 million yuan of subsidies to low-income groups _ News _,oakley outlet, especially for China,louboutin pas cher,Henan Provincial Communications Department any director sacked 4 Fallen trajectory exists, it is clear that in such a large country,hogan, similar things would happen,ray ban, this thing will other countries,hogan. “

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  931. mnvh2ucb419 May 15, 2013 at 7:12 pm #

    ‘an Liu and friends, shopping catch the thief,hollister outlet, but was the thief called more than 20 man gang fights, the two The person who has a total of three stab wounds. Tourist pair of shoes bag was stolen and each holiday in the past, Liu and Xiao Qin about several friends from Yan’an to Xi’an to play. Evening of 1 to Xi’an, visiting several attractions in the evening to East Main Street shopping. “Mr. Liu said,abercrombie france. Night 8:30, Mr. Liu and friends Qin and two of his companions,louboutin, into East Street, a Li Ning store. Four people fancy goods, the companion first bought to waiting outside the shop. Small Qin and Liu continues to pick goods, “I saw a pair of sneakers, let the salesman brought to trial.” Small Qin recalled that his right shoulder bag,mulberry outlet, placed directly on the side of the stool, he bent over busy with a pair of shoes,Rye master owner suspected in the ruins of the dog. Just got up, the small Qin counterassaulted touched discovered the bag was gone,hogan outlet. Small Qin quickly turned around to look for the girl pointed to the door, prompt steal his stuff at the door,hollister. Small Qin and Liu to catch up to the door of a man to seize. Liu, the bag is not man, men do not admit to stealing. Liu and small Qin is very angry, lessons thief meal. At this time, the thief becomes very fit,mulberry, to help them to get back to the bag, but the package within a few hundred dollars was gone. The clerk call 110, Liu and I looked at the thief, waiting to Alarming police. “Small Qin said. The thief as people stabbed visitors a thief in his shop a corner, Liu and Qin guarding the side. “After about 56 minutes, the thief quietly call while we do not pay attention,” Liu said, he found quickly snatched the phone, warning thieves do not play tricks. Liu two people waiting for the police,The driver mistook the accelerator when the brake killed one, the store ran in more than 20 men, the first three with his dagger in his hand, the last two men waited at the front of the store, would not let anyone enter the store. The thief stood up, pointing to the small Qin and Liu rushed to the man shouted, “They.” In this case, this gang of men said nothing,hogan, Liu and Qin will be surrounded. “We might not react, the other side kicking,louboutin.” Liu recalled that the other person is more, he can only idea to avoid, but eventually did not escape. The right leg was stabbed a knife, he quickly ran along the stairs to the second floor, back again suffered the other knife. Small Qin each other down to the ground, leg followed poke a knife. “The other is still wielding a dagger, thanks to the small Qin each other down to the ground, legs followed was stabbed a knife.” The other side is still wielding a dagger, fortunately I stay relatively fast, the head just gently scratch. “Qin said. 3 pm, the reporter learned from the Li Ning store customer battered about 2 minutes each other too much, the clerk fear of reprisals, they called 110, did not help beaten customer after the end of the beatings, more than 20 men and thieves, swaggering out of the store, walked to the bell tower direction of the police Prepaid medical expenses Liu speaking, The gang men left after less than 1 minute,hollister, the Xi’an Public Security Bureau Beilin Branch of cypress trees wound police station came to the scene and taken to hospital, the injured Liu and Qin. 3 am, the reporters in the hotel to see the two the clothes pants residual blood,mulberry outlet, walking limped. ” suture, there is no life-threatening. “Qin said, beating man is in his early 20s look, listen to to speak like Guanzhong local accent. 3 at 3 pm, the reporter learned from the cypress woods police station, the police has commenced an investigation on the case, but the accident shops not installed monitoring, can only be described by the victim,Working man suspected his wife derailment Murder patricide _, to identify, to the detection of cases of great difficulty. speak the director of Wang Suyu, the matter has created a significant negative impact on the image of Main Street East, the full pursuit of suspects taking into account the tourists in this matter suffered relatively large losses, medical expenses are paid in advance,louboutin, so that victims receive timely treatment store is not installed monitoring will be required in accordance with law and order,abercrombie, to make further processing .

  932. qw8n8334 May 15, 2013 at 7:32 pm #

    ‘clock yesterday afternoon, the New Express reporter came to the scene to see, in front of the cordon has not yet re-opened the door of a large share of blood and stretches over 50 meters long people Xinchan a way to survive. Filed after the incident, neighbors shouted “terrorist”. Putting living with a Li Yi (a pseudonym) told reporters yesterday 1:40 Xu, people suddenly the sound of a woman’s “help” Xiaxing. Li Yi dressed to go out only to find, Putting the home was hurt. Chen Haiyan was only nine years old son of King King profuse blood fell to the ground crying, and Chen Haiyan also ran out of the room after more than 50 meters, covered in blood lying on the ground unable to move. “I learned, Chen Haiyan’s second husband Aron, her mother and son cut.” Said Li Yi, Aron is more than a foot long wood cutting knife, Aron knives to injure, return rental cursed King King escape,abercrombie france. Subsequently,hogan, the Alarm came to the security guard and police the two sent to hospital for emergency treatment. Suspected cable property unsuccessful murderers “She (Chen Haiyan) did not work, took his son to rent only a couple of months,abercrombie pas cher.” Neighbourhood and Ms. Wu,mulberry outlet, the Putting the son of King King is born with the first husband. About two years ago, Chen Haiyan and equally divorced Aron remarried,louboutin, three rental in five Hashimura another rental. But Chen Haiyan and Aron get along is not harmonious, neighbors often heard them quarreling neighbors, so He has also been alarm. Ms,louboutin pas cher. Wu said her several times to chat with Chen Haiyan hear their experience assaulted by Aron Finally, Chen Haiyan could not bear to torture, Aron divorce three months ago. After the divorce, Chen Haiyan moved with his son to trouble issuing renting However, Aron is still Gesanchawu to quarrel,ray ban. “I heard Putting in an apartment in the South China Sea, Aron want to pay point property from quarrel.” Ms. Wu said, many residents have to guess,louboutin pas cher, Aron The assailant demanding money failed huff from the beholder. The neighborhood otherwise recognize Aron said, its recent buy Mark Six lose very short of money. But above argument without the police confirmed. The threat to cut off his son lifeblood yesterday afternoon, the reporter saw in the City Charity Hospital Putting her entire head and the left hand is wrapped in gauze, she has been groaning shout “pain”. Putting the head and face and left hand multiple stab wounds, according to medical staff briefing, has been the rescue operation,air jordan, but the injury at any time deterioration possible,air jordan pas cher. King King in Liwan District People’s Hospital ICU ward head was chopped, not yet out of danger. According to Chen Haiyan’s cousin Chen Xingwen Aron in Guangzhou to others the wagon for a living, “says listen to my sister,abercrombie, Aron and his wife contradiction and brought her hands cut off, the result was sentenced to five years. “said Chen Xingwen, Chen Haiyan had told him awake the night of the incident Aron broke into a rental, threw her a pair of scissors to cut off the lifeblood of the King King,hogan outlet, but Chen Haiyan not from A The macro would pick up firewood cutter assailant. Heard Aron had mental problems, may have other things to stimulate his knives to injure, “Chen Xingwen said. (Stringing people: Mr. Yan bonus: 150 for dinner with his wife and children) murderers ago, Express News reporter Li Guohui reported cases of stabbings occurred yesterday in the the Liwan District Fangcun five bridge, reporters stakeholders consultation to the police. Confirmed the case, said police have dispatched elite police task force formed to expand the investigation and efforts to apprehend the fugitive suspects. As to the specific cause of the incident, the source said there are pending further investigation,mulberry outlet. It is reported that the suspect and the injured woman was a relationship between husband and wife, divorce in September of this year. Last night, the suspect and his ex-wife and their children together for dinner, and after dinner that the cases occurred, the suspect fled the scene,abercrombie. Currently, the two victims seriously injured, need care treatment. Currently, the police are fully apprehend the suspects.

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  933. fdfjm40uns May 15, 2013 at 7:34 pm #

    SEAL commandos on the 5th woman to a” show off “pistol, unexpectedly wounded, died on the 8th. Three naval military Shi Jien Clayton,mulberry, aged 22, from Poland, Ohio,louboutin pas cher. “San Diego Union-Tribune” reported the injured Clayton at 2:00 on the 5th, San Diego Scripps Memorial Hospital,louboutin, died on the morning of the 8th. Reuters quoted Allen,air jordan pas cher, a San Diego Police Department Sila Si, then reports: “Obviously, the night he went to the (bar) and go home with a young woman playing the gun accidentally hit himself in the head,louboutin pas cher.” According to him, that this was an accident,hollister, not intentional acts. Police said Clayton brought home a woman Clayton gun aside, and Clayton insisted on showing off to each other,louis vuitton, picked up a 9 mm caliber pistol aimed at his head,abercrombie, pulled the trigger,louboutin. Police concluded, Clayton thought the pistol had no bullets,hollister outlet. The Navy is investigating the incident. Clayton March 2010, served in the U.S,hogan. Navy, the Navy land,louboutin, sea and air commando training programs completed last month,mulberry outlet, originally scheduled for earlier this month to the West Coast Special Operations Forces service. According to Xinhua News Agency

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  934. gaghsdj0e6 May 15, 2013 at 7:44 pm #

    ‘s mother. This thing happened on the 17th of this month, Lianjiang,ray ban. One of the reasons is the mother of the child can not read, can not read the SMS. Phone ransom child mother asked late talk to at 17:00 on the 17th, Lianjiang Head police station received from the residents Ms. Wu police, said the 11-year-old son Siu Ho (a pseudonym) was kidnapped, the kidnappers called to their blackmail 23 million. County Public Security Bureau Liu instructed the Criminal Investigation Brigade immediately intervene and quickly set up a special investigation. According to Ms. Wu, her husband long-term workers in South Korea, to his son to study, she and her son Siu Ho has been rented in Town Tau Street,louboutin pas cher. 17 at 8:00 am, Ms. Wu sent niece back home, to go to his son before the 10 dollars, told him his lunch at noon. 11:30, Ms. Wu back to the residence after discovering his son was not at home,mulberry, went to the son most like to go to the noodles shop to find a result boss told her Siu Ho did not come today. Not expect the son usually like to play video games, Ms. Wu went to the game store frequented by Siu Ho to find, still have not found. 15:30, just as Ms. Wu anxiously looking for his son, a strange man called her phone. The man on the phone said: “Your son is kidnapped me, to prepare 23 million, your son can return home safely.” Man to finish the sentence, but also with a very angry tone, and told Ms. Wu, he morning gave Ms,air jordan pas cher. Wu made a phone call, the results of Ms. Wu listening to on the phone did not care for him, he continuous to Ms. Wu made a 3 SMS inform the abduction of things as well as remittances account the result of Ms. Wu did not care for him. Ms. Wu then remember that morning received a telephone. Send niece back in the car, she indeed received this man on the phone, but the car was too noisy, Ms. Wu also thought the other was their friends or relatives, they tell each other late to talk to,louboutin. The illiterate, the man to the the blackmail message sent by Ms. Wu, her one did not see, so will the son peacetime activities more place to look. SMS newspaper account kidnappers called to remind her to look at the the SMS task force immediately access to her phone SMS, received a total of three of the same number to 17, respectively, at 12:07, 12:58 and 15:18 sent. Information,hollister, the kidnappers wrote: “child in me, you eat well live well,hollister, do not worry too much, keep a good body ready to 230,000,louboutin, I received the money to put people not to alarm.” Returned SMS a bank account. Police in Tau Street, launched a secret visits,ray ban, and finally in the game store has been an important clue: Siu Ho does come in the morning, but soon and a young man walking on a gray car, followed by two to Fuzhou direction of opening to. The panel immediately transfer of the probe along the way, and out of the period of time Head gray vehicle investigation. 18 at 7:00 in the morning,toms outlet, Ms. Wu received a text message again. The kidnappers said in a text message before 9 o’clock to receive the money, otherwise they threatened to kill. At the same time, the kidnappers again called Ms,mulberry outlet. Wu’s phone, the first time she and her son speak, the kidnappers told her to watch the SMS message. In the next time, the kidnappers repeatedly texting reminder, would call each time you send text messages to remind Ms. Wu attention to the SMS message. Worried about Ms. Wu did not remember clearly the account, the kidnappers on the phone again and read it, and asked Ms. Wu to take notes down. The hostages were rescued kidnappers fugitives who are charged with murder after nearly a day investigation, the police finally locked the the car driving kidnappers crime Min A688 ** gray car and found the car somewhere in Fuzhou by the electronic eye. The hostages still in the hands of the kidnappers, not rush the implementation of the arrest. In order to stabilize the kidnappers emotions, the delay time, the police asked Ms. Wu to requirements by the kidnappers to the designated account twice remittances 1.5 million and 8,000 will delay the time to 17:00. The kidnappers again Dunning, Ms. Wu police account, telling the kidnappers bank has been off work, is to raise money, banks are open for the next day to save money. At the same time, the implementation of the arrest of members of the task force has arrived in Fuzhou, tracking the kidnappers vehicle. At 20 o’clock on the the 18th,toms shoes, the kidnappers with Siu Ho was admitted to the town of Fuzhou gates of a hotel, the panel night guard in the vicinity of the hotel, waiting for the opportunity to arrest. 19 at 9:00 in the morning, the kidnappers will Siu Ho left in the room alone to pick up the car ready to check out. The task force decisive attack, arrested the kidnappers, and rescued Siu Ho. Trial, police found the suspect Zhang actually a fugitive, 2004 in Fuzhou Street of students gather together to fight resulting in one death and three injuries have been absconded. Zhang also acknowledged the facts of the crime of kidnapping. Zhang confessed that due to the long abscond, he is very tight. Later, I heard Head a lot of people abroad,louboutin pas cher, economic prosperity, from the idea of ??kidnapping children. Before the kidnapping Siu Ho, Zhang has more than once come Head, but to no avail. 10 am that day, he saw Siu Ho alone in watching other people play games, and came to him, coaxing Siu Ho said that he is a good friend of their cousin, can take him to go to another game room to play a fun game. Siu Ho did not purely psychological preparedness followed him got. Taking into account the child away from home for a long time would be crying from the kidnapping Siu Ho Zhang took him eat three meals delicious, and gave him to buy a new dress. Worry about with their own children will be found that Zhang has been from the start of the 17th car in Fuzhou Riverside on the road wandering at night to sleep in the car. Until the 18th night, there is no the physical car Zhang was in the town gates to find a secluded hotel stay. Currently, Zhang has been under criminal detention, the case is still pending.

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  935. gbuwet70vgf May 15, 2013 at 7:46 pm #

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  944. h8b5vlm2m May 15, 2013 at 11:07 pm #

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