JHK’s Three-Act Play
For the moment, while the racial grievances of 2014 have chilled on the polar vortex, and no unarmed black teens have been shot by cops for a couple of weeks, it might be a good time to continue that honest discussion about race that the media nabobs — such as Charles Blow and Nicholas Kristof of The New York Times and Don Lemon of CNN — demand when some incendiary event goes down and tensions across the country become unbearable. That demand, of course, is a political booby-trap because any discussion not founded on the presumption of white malice is instantly deemed inadmissible and “racist” — which is just cheap demagogic despotism designed to shut down the very discussion they asked for. So that is exactly what I expect in response to this essay.
I bring these matters up because it seems to me that the long, arduous, costly battle for “civil rights” which began in my childhood a half century ago is beginning to look like a lost cause. The movies and TV are full of black / white buddy stories, and commercial images of a shared American experience as if there really was a common culture that blacks and whites felt an equal investment in. These stories and images are largely wishful, though I believe the dream of a common culture that would nurture all types of people in America stood at the heart of civil rights idealism of the sort represented by Martin Luther King and the white public figures who marched in solidarity with him.
Something went terribly wrong in the early going, and I don’t think there has ever been an honest discussion about it by American social thought leaders of any race, though I have raised the point more than once in passing. It was the paradoxical rise of black separatist politics at the exact historical moment of civil rights triumph when the two landmark civil rights bills were passed: the Public Accommodations Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
Black separatism had been around since the late 19th century as a counterpoint to the earlier post-slavery idea represented by Booker T. Washington, which proposed that black earnestness would eventually be recognized by white America and rewarded, at least with economic participation. That idea was opposed by less patient, younger figures such as W.E.B Du Bois and Marcus Garvey who promoted what was then called “Pan-Africanism.” But the debate was superseded by the crises of the Great Depression and Second World War. By the early 1960s, black separatism had revived, personified first by Malcolm X (assassinated by rival Black Muslims, 1965), and the disillusioned former Freedom Rider Stokely Carmichael, who coined the slogan “black power,” and then by scores of public players and followers.
What I think happened is that the sudden prospect of true legal equality produced deep anxiety across black America, so that opting out provided a comfortable alternative. I saw it play out at my college in 1970 when the “militant” black students organization demanded a separate black student union. In the face of the civil rights acts passed only a few years earlier, this should have been regarded as a sort of outrage, but pusillanimous college administrators caved in and bought a house for that purpose. And of course the same thing happened all over the country, so that a new form of separate-but-equal was reestablished by popular demand.
That blunder by academic leaders set a tragic tone for the forty years that followed. To rationalize the new separate-but-equal ethos, these people of liberal good intentions constructed an elaborate ideology of “multiculturalism” and “diversity” that had the tragic unintended consequence of obliterating the foundational idea of a common culture that had animated the struggle Dr. King gave his life to, as well the basic notion of what it meant to be an American.
A common culture did exist in America before the 1960s, at least in terms of manners, standards of decent behavior, and even language. It was what allowed people of good will in the 20th century to believe in “one nation indivisible.” Hence, the question America needs to ask itself: do we have enough moral focus to revive the idea that a common culture actually matters? If not, expect unending strife.
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The idyllic notion of a return to a common culture in 21st century America flies in the face of reality: impermanence is the ultimate truth, and it applies no less to the gross than to the subtle masters of existence. For too many of us old white fellows that heyday of American shared values persists as a delusion, and we would be the wiser to deal with the situation as it is. Reviving those old ideas, however, is quaint and comforting.
Culture is and has always been humanity’s response of resisting impermanence. Anyway, the notion of cycles probably is truer to reality than the simple notion of constant change.
This is from JHK Predictions 2015, President Obama proves to be tragically ineffectual in restoring peace.[end quote].
Obama and Holder have been encouraging a race war, for whatever reasons.
“matters” of existence
Jamyang,
Very good comment.
Those “quaint and comforting” bromides seem to be coming [mostly] from the mouths of politicians [aka, sheep-herders] these days. Funny that… always on the lookout for an advantage, whether by calculated division or fake coalition-building (depending on wind direction and the need for somebody to fill the treasure chests).
My response to Mr. K’s commentary is yes and no. As a teacher in a public southern university for thirty years, I saw many changes among the two races. Yes, there is ongoing separatism; black students gathered in the back of the classrooms and whites in the front. They tend to eat and date separately. But, there is a common culture growing among the two races – common language, music, food, family attitudes, religion (or non-religion), learning, etc. Unfortunately, the cultural attitudes forming and being promoted are all degraded and primitive. The commonality is laziness, profligacy and a rejection of personal responsibility; a glorification of self-centeredness and anti-community. This common culture is resulting in an ignorant and greedy generation with less overt racism on either side but nothing that resembles a coherent society.
Your observations match my own except, being on the “Left Coast”, I’ve seen this separatism happening with all of the new OTHER ethnicities we’ve invited en masse into America i.e., Indians and Chinese. At least the Indians and Chinese tend to work and study hard but their social behavior is that of “mandarins” i.e., they’re from the wealthier classes of their original country and look at lower-middle-class Americans as their lackeys.
I recall an incident once in the school cafeteria where an Indian girl got up and spilled the contents of a Coca Cola cup onto the chair she just vacated. As she left the table I went up and tapped her on the shoulder and asked if she intended to do something so that some poor hapless soul didn’t sit in a chair full of Coca Cola. She actually said: “Well, what do you think I should do?!” I said, either get a towel from the cafeteria staff or take the chair outside (which was 30 feet away) and dump the Coke onto a plant pot or even the sidewalk.
While Indian and Chinese young men and women do study hard and work hard they share with their falling white comrades a worship of idiotic disco culture in their social lives. Lines outside of popular discos are notably full of third worlders and really dopey white kids who cannot seem to have a conversation without screaming at one another.
I think we’re in a worldwide social de-evolutionary phase where social atavism will soon be so ubiquitous that only us old fogies will remember when cultivating a certain dignity and politesse were considered the aim of maturity itself. Self-centeredness is now so ubiquitous that one wonders how other-directed youth will avoid the fate of the “Savage” of “Brave New World” who hung himself because of the lovelessness of that world. They will be alone or huddled in very small enclaves.
Yes, Therian, “They will be alone or huddled in very small enclaves”.
Brings to mind T. S. Eliot:
“Mistah Kurtz—he dead.
A penny for the Old Guy
I
We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats’ feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar
Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion”…
And so it goes.
A great Eliot poem, Pogo. Thanks for reviving a great memory!! And it’s more germane now than it was in Eliot’s time. I think Western Civilization is going to end with a semi-chaotic whimper rather than a bang. A poem similar in temperament to Eliot’s “Hollow Men” is “The Conqueror Worm” by Poe. Here ’tis:
Lo! ’tis a gala night
Within the lonesome latter years!
An angel throng, bewinged, bedight
In veils, and drowned in tears,
Sit in a theatre, to see
A play of hopes and fears,
While the orchestra breathes fitfully
The music of the spheres.
Mimes, in the form of God on high,
Mutter and mumble low,
And hither and thither fly-
Mere puppets they, who come and go
At bidding of vast formless things
That shift the scenery to and fro,
Flapping from out their Condor wings
Invisible Woe!
That motley drama- oh, be sure
It shall not be forgot!
With its Phantom chased for evermore,
By a crowd that seize it not,
Through a circle that ever returneth in
To the self-same spot,
And much of Madness, and more of Sin,
And Horror the soul of the plot.
But see, amid the mimic rout
A crawling shape intrude!
A blood-red thing that writhes from out
The scenic solitude!
It writhes!- it writhes!- with mortal pangs
The mimes become its food,
And seraphs sob at vermin fangs
In human gore imbued.
Out- out are the lights- out all!
And, over each quivering form,
The curtain, a funeral pall,
Comes down with the rush of a storm,
While the angels, all pallid and wan,
Uprising, unveiling, affirm
That the play is the tragedy, “Man,”
And its hero the Conqueror Worm.
It is interesting to note that ‘The Conqueror Worm’ was first published as part of the Poe short story ‘Ligeia’. This is a wonderful, haunting tale – one of Poe’s very finest in my view. The title character composes the poem prior to her…well, you’ll want to read the story yourself if you haven’t already.
Yes, we’re Heartlanders! Down with Coasties of either stripe!
I don’t intend to be a “Left Coaster” for much longer. California is now the largest epicenter of mass landlord-driven greed in the USA. Jim often says that Arizona will be returned to Mexico but I doubt it. The odd fact about WATER is that there are enormous aquifers running under Arizona and the state that really has the serious water problem is California. Most aquifers from AZ and NV run into the Sierra Nevada Mountains and that’s all she wrote.
I find the incredible, hyperbolic greed and balkanization of California to be so offputting that I plan to move to Tempe, AZ, my former home state. Arizona has 5 million people and California has 40 million in little more than 35% more acres than Arizona. It’s only a matter of time ’til this absurd tech boom hits the rocky shoals and then the state has NO revenue base.
Jim, I know, prefers Oregon because it’s “well watered” and it’s true that it is. However, I find the political and economic climate of Oregon to be unbearable. That’s why Portland traffic jams throughout the city and all its suburbs are as bad as the Bay Area and many parts of Los Angeles. Oregon’s form of liberalism is even dumber than California’s which is why their state has no jobs and the ones they do have are at depressed wages … with the highest payroll taxes in the nation at the LOW end.
Just about any place is looking pretty good compared to the “Golden State”.
Chindians are here to make money. To take what they can from our dying nation.
In the case of, ‘I recall an incident once in the school cafeteria where an Indian girl got up and spilled the contents of a Coca Cola cup onto the chair she just vacated.’
She was not taught responsibility at home or she refused to learn it if it was offered to her.
She felt better than the commoners. She is lazy.
She feels no connection to the society around her and why should she?
Yes treat Indians from call centers with contempt. Many have been driven to seek therapy from the treatment we have dished out over the Phone.
Spot on. I have to laugh every time I hear someone (usually on NPR) talk about the “Hip Hop Culture,” as if it’s a good thing, as if it resembles a coherent world view by which young people might guide their lives and their futures.
I recall the same exact event as Jim, when the Black Student Union was established at my college in Western NY back in the 70s. I would guess that is was simply a way to containerize the Blacks of that era. College admins are nothing if not cowardly. They made the calculation that is was easier to foist off some crappy house on the recalcitrant Black students that it was to face the possible negative response; read; riot.
There is no putting the genie back in the bottle, as much as Jim and anyone else might like. Today, everyone get’s their OWN culture! Yay!
Uh, excuse me, but have you checked out what’s offered culturally speaking elsewhere in this country?
“as if it resembles a coherent world view by which young people might guide their lives and their futures.”
As if America offered young people much of a choice!
Mr ‘this is how they treat a black man in merika’ Gates runs the
‘Hip Hop Museum’ at HARVARD.
It all starts at the top, as far as I’m concerned. You could of course be describing this country’s political class.
Don’t forget the Media Moguls who spread the evil hip hop culture far and wide. They didn’t have to give this garbage air time. It was a political decision, not economic. They could have made just as much money with something innocuous. For example, they could have strengthened rock and roll and brought Blacks into that, allowing them to give it their own spin as always.
That sounds appallingly like a burgeoning common anti-culture.
“do we have enough moral focus to revive the idea that a common culture actually matters? If not, expect unending strife.”
No we don’t have the moral courage but even if we did it wouldn’t matter. Expect unending strife.
Where would such a common culture come from? The existing common culture now exists as a broken promise and can’t be revived. The only thing certain about a career in America is that if you have one it is likely to be cut short way before your time. You will be left hanging. If you want education for a new one you will have to get into debt to pay for it. So what is there to attract anyone to a common culture? Hugs and high-fives? Those won’t cut it.
Any discussion of race relations would have to include a discussion about equality in America which is off the table. America has those who are hooked up and those who are not. That’s the way it is. This is the reality and the ‘common culture’ cares not to look to equality and fair dealing. America prefers inequity and so an honest discussion of race relations isn’t going to happen. We are the land of I’ve got mine you get yours and leave me alone.
An honest discussion of race relations in a land dedicated to inequality is not going to happen.
But if Jim Kunstler were to hook up with a woman of color and go on a book tour that would set a great example.
I have to laugh every time I see that expression: ” a person of color(ed)”. Race obsessed people have now come full circle. “Colored” was banned as an adjective describing blacks. Now it has returned and it used with proud abandon.
I winced when I used it but my choices are limited.
Maybe so, but I thought the intention was to include all non-whites. Imperfect, yes, and sad that we even have to attend to such things.
It’s when we allow such distinctions to divide us that we lose. Fighting among ourselves – divide and conquer.
Mulatto or ‘mixed race’. Black or Negro. PoC or ‘colored person’.
Its all soul food to me.
A common culture that produces an “I don’t give a damn!” mentality.
That’s grotesque. Race isn’t supposed to matter to you people – yet obviously nothing matters more. You are reinforcing the very thing you are supposedly against with every breath. If Jim had a partner who just happened to be Non-White, was well educated and talked like an educated White person, and who trashed Hip Hop/Black Prison Culture with passionate eloquence, I agree that might be a fine thing. But you just want the optic for some weird reason that you can’t even articulate. Perhaps you like the idea of the Whites being bred out of existence because we’re evil? Think about it – that’s the ultimate conclusion to everything that’s been pushed since the 60’s.
You’re talking about Bill Cosby. See how that turned out?
Your defending Black Rapists again. ‘Ump, what’s wrong with you?
It’s a regular African Love Fest in here Maude.
I have been under the impression that K. is unaware of the exclusion of people of color during that time he sees as common culture. But now I think he is well aware of it and that is tacit acceptance of it as a “good thing.” Which is depressing.
“A common culture did exist in America before the 1960s, at least in terms of manners, standards of decent behavior, and even language. It was what allowed people of good will in the 20th century to believe in “one nation indivisible.”
That’s a totally wrong reading of history. There was a common culture but it was white only and enforced by white society at every level. One didn’t see black faces in films unless they were groveling characters used as comic relief such as Stepin Fetchit, Or maybe in black face such as Al Jolson. The Majestic Theater in San Antonio had a second balcony above the first for “coloreds only” and entered by a separate ticket booth in the ally behind the theater. Your notion of “good will” is laughable.
This must be a week where Jim wants to make a stop at Willoughby. He seems to be wishing for a past that never was. And with everything now made in China leaving no work for Americans who want to improve their lot it is a past that will never be a future.
Let those who destroyed the American economy by massively exporting jobs and stopped all the internally circulating dollars which made our economy work be the first to start this ‘honest discussion‘.
I think I’ll be waiting a long time.
Nice Twilight Zone reference, K Dog.
Yes, and unfortunately, we’re in the same boat; set to step off a rapidly moving train. “This stop Willoughby!”
Well you got that one right. Why is revealing political secrets such a terrible crime, but destroying our economy considered commendable or even ones patriotic duty? As if political and economic power are separable.
“As if political and economic power are separable.”-j.
Nice observation…
And now White males are mocked. On the Tube. In films. In ads.
In what movie did Morgan Freeman play God?
Freeman appeared as God in the hit film Bruce Almighty and its sequel, Evan Almighty, as well as Lucius Fox in the critical and commercial success Batman Begins and its sequels, The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises.
Captain America is Black.
Annie is Black.
Yr heart is black.
Edward4432 —
You apparently don’t read with comprehension. I said manners, standards of decent behavior, and even language, not economic opportunity. That means calling each other ‘mister’ or ‘miss’ rather than ‘motherfucker’ or ‘bitch;’ it means men taking responsibility for children and wives; it means learning to speak English correctly instead of being put down for ‘acting white.’ — JHKJ
How could there be a common culture before the 1960’s if blacks were not part of it being legally segregated? Before the 1960’s Japanese were interned during WW II, Jews were routinely discriminated against, Catholics were suspect to the degree that JFK’s Catholicism was a big issue in the 1960 election.
Of course besides this there are the hundreds of years of stealing the lands and resources of the First Americans, the Native Americans who had been living here for centuries.
There was also not a “common culture” for the white working classes who before the GI Bill and later the 1960’s were not allowed into the
elite Ivy League colleges. I was one of those children of the white working class who became the first in their families to attend college as a good student with scholarships and a 3% National Direct Student Loan along with my own hard work on a garbage truck and as a janitor at the same time.
It is my contention that an unheralded key to the college ferment of the 1960’s was the entrance of a whole new cohort of people like myself from the working class who did embrace the Brahmins and white male elite’s embrace of their own inherited wealth and privilege. We see the same thing as newly affluent pro football players and professional athletes dare to ask questions about why 1,100 people, primarily of color, were killed by police last year versus 15,000 homicides.
Unfortunately and tragically one part of the schizophrenic “common culture” of America is an embrace of violence and inherited entitlement and privilege.
But the other part as Howard Zinn pointed out is also a movement towards more democracy, freedom and public institutions for what the founders called the “Commonwealth”. I.e. the public Post Office founded by Benjamin Franklin, public fire departments also found by Benjamin Franklin, the first secular public university of Virginia founded by Thomas Jefferson, and the first public schools for all citizens provided for by the Northwest Ordinance Act of 1787.
Never before in history had there been public schools endorsing no religion open to all citizens to provide for an educated citizenry.
We urgently need to defend and greatly extend these public institutions of public transit, libraries, schools, parks and health care
if we are going to survive Peak Oil and Climate Change.
These institutions only survive if they are open to all people irrespective of race, religion or creed.
It is a well-known tactic of elites from Roman days to Southern slaveholders to robber barons to divide and conquer via racism, ideological blacklisting and the like as was done to foment slavery,
defeat Unions etc.
Kunstler is right that we need a common culture – it needs to be a common culture of public sharing or else we will not survive Peak Oil and Climate Change with civilization intact…
Well said, and the new common culture must be both color blind and without prejudice and superstition (sans religion, that is). That is a lot to hope for.
Good point orbit, have you noticed that “the right” has systematically attacked anything with the word “public” attached and IMHO we are the weaker as a result?
Exactly. Anything “public” or any use of the words “society” or “social” is “communistic” to the radical right, and they’re in the saddle.
It is communistic” even, e.g., to suggest that we feed hungry children. But somehow subsidizing the criminal doings of the banks is just dandy. Some “common culture.”
At the same time we hear lots of pretty speeches about how America really cares about children.
This is an example of why I say that America is nothing more than a rhetorical construct.
“Exactly. Anything “public” or any use of the words “society” or “social” is “communistic” to the radical right, and they’re in the saddle.”-guten.
The political ‘Right’ in the developed world has a problem with anything that *might* fortify the ‘Social Contract’ or foster any reasonable facsimile of a “common culture” – while decrying it’s absence. They’ve become _nihilists while the political ‘Left’ play the role of nostalgists. But at the end of the day, it’s _economic_ factors that hold greater sway.
These institutions only survive if they are open to all people [irrespective] of race, religion or creed. – Orbit
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First, I want to thank you for NOT saying [irregardless] but then I have a question: What is your distinction between the words “religion” and “creed?”
Further I agree that “Kunstler is right that we need a common culture” but it has become apparent to me, the older I get, that we are not achieving a common culture. My take on what is happening is that blacks are either unable or unwilling to assimilate into the dominant/majority/white culture. Hispanics (mainly Mexicans) are somewhat more able and willing to assimilate and Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and Indians) DO assimilate over time because they already possess a culture that respects education.
No, public education just dumbs down people for servitude. In truth, only a small percentage of people can be deeply educated or even desire to be. You see the desire and the capacity tend to go together. College must go back to being for the very few.
And all nations are established by conquest and maintained by the sword. There would have been no America if not for the White Conquest. That’s what enabled poor poor Howard to write his vicious book. The prosperity enabled by the White Conquest is what attracted Zinn’s people to come here. So where does he (or you) get off spitting in the faces of those to whom he owes everything?
Re: “public education just dumbs down people for servitude”
First, let me say that I think public education could certainly be improved.
Having said that, I think it gets a bad rap. It was initially intended to provide young people with skills that would be useful both to them and to society in their adult lives — ability to read with comprehension and to write intelligently, ability to work with numbers, a basic appreciation for their history and geography. It is important to note that most kids came from homes where the parents actually carried out the economic parts of their lives — the moms tended gardens, cooked, made clothes, prepared medicines, etc., while the fathers tended fields, raised livestock, or worked in cottage industries. Education in this context was a *supplement* to the life skills learned at home.
Fast-forward to the 21st century where virtually no economic activities at all are practiced in the home and it is often the case that both parents work elsewhere. Schools must now babysit kids while parents are working, and must try to teach children virtually all life skills.
In addition, the attitude of parents toward schools has changed. If I had ever disrupted a class in school, what they did to me there would have paled in comparison to what would have happened to me at home. Now, as often as not, it’s the teacher who gets called in on the carpet.
Our society has a lot of problems, and kids bring these problems to school with them. So while the schools are not necessarily blameless in all this, their problems are symptomatic of the problems of our society at large.
But the one thing that remains is that kids are given the opportunity to learn things that will be useful to them as adults in our schools. Most teachers I know bend over backwards to motivate their students and present the course material in a logical and interesting manner. If the kids choose not to learn despite all that is being offered to them, I just don’t see that the schools should take all the blame.
Well, Maya Angelou is no longer available. You make some excellent points about the insoluble problem of inequality. The prospect of an emerging, healthy common culture in this land, however, will come of necessity with the Great Unraveling and in the context of having to make other arrangements that comport with political, social and economic realities.
Huh? Equality doesn’t exist in Nature. We are going back to the Age of Strong Men and Warlords. But yes, a City State ruled by sensible Men voted in by citizens might be able to hold back the barbarians. I emphasize the term “sensible” – in other words men who understand hierarchy and merit as well as fairness and justice. There is no justice in Affirmative Action because it persecutes Whites and overlooks merit in favor of skin color. The Chinese Cultural Revolution lasted ten years or so. Ours has been going on for two generations and shows no signs of stopping.
The Civil War never ended, it just went underground, just like ruling the world, human sacrifice, and pedophilia. The Ku Klux Klan is like every other secret society i.e. it does what it does in secret because it is repulsive to a normal human being. That is the best reason why secret societies should be banned, hunted out of existence, and policed so that they never rise again. There is a reason for the secrecy. Was the post Civil War environment unfair to whites? Of course it was. The environment was unfair to blacks before and to rectify it meant taking the unfairness from one and giving it to the other, which of course meant whites were treated less fairly. Was this unpleasant? Sure. That’s the point. Duh.
So all Southerners were criminals and all Blacks to be their wardens and torturers? Thank you for stating so baldly the ugly Liberal Mindset, kept secret by your more educated cadres. But yes, that’s exactly how the North thought and how Blacks and Liberals thought back then and still think today. Huge gangs of Negroes roamed the ruined land raping and murdering. Southern Men, defeated yet not broken, organized and put an end to the reign of terror – aided by decent men in the North disgusted by the blood lust of their erstwhile fellow travelers.
Correction : “Large gangs of negro men with huge penises roamed the barren land with huge erections ravishing the white women and murdering the white men, after ravishing them too of course, were finally brought under erectile control by men in white sheets pretending to be Casper the Ghost of Erectile Dysfunction Past. These same men gave standing O’s when “Birth of a Nation” was screened. President Wilson approved. Pass the Fruit Loops. The End.”
What crazy trash you are. Thank you for shouting out your truth. Keep it coming.
I’m not the one calling people names and fostering zombie stereotypes.
What I meant to say was they gave a TIPTOED standing O when the young lily white maiden threw herself off of a cliff rather than be violated by the gargantuan penis. Oh that really warmed the hearts of those sheet clad warriors. I cracked up laughing, but that’s just me. I’m sure you’d light a candle at a Novena or Noxcema.
Yeah well they won. And Blacks were sent out of the Capital and back to the fields where they belong. Not my fields of course: White farmers employing other Whites in a White State is the only viable future.
The good old days are always so good through the lens of wishful thinking.
orbit7er. I agree with you and JHK. A common culture is necessary, but possible, that’s quite another story. You are right what you wrote, in order to survive peak oil and climate change with any civilization intact, it would be beneficial to have a common culture. After all, these issues affect all regardless of race, and certainly affect our descendents. Wish in one hand and spit in the other, see which one fills up faster. Interesting, the native americans did have a more communal go at things. BTW
Janos, I mean this. Happy New year.
Back at ya guy! Consider the Polynesians: they looked so happy at the feasts, everyone eating together and everyone happy and sharing, even offering their wives to the Whites for a tryst. But the Hierarchy was absolute, just not separated by space and walls as in the West or in any developed culture. If an underling so much as touched the Chief’s head by accident, he would be immediately clubbed to death. Slaves and common workers could be grabbed and killed at a moment’s whim if human flesh was desired for a feast. No use denying it: it was seen by many Whites far more objective than the later Communist Anthropologists/Apologists of the Boasian School.
Do your really think the Indians lacked Hierarchy? Maybe the most primitive tribes, the so called digger Indians of the Great Basin. But the big tribes were like the Polynesians of the High Islands, though not so given to Cannibalism. They had classes and of course, slaves.
What color is the sky in your world?
In other words, only Whites are Evil. Everyone knows that. In Hump’s world, that a recipe for peace.
“… a new form of separate-but-equal was reestablished by popular demand.
That blunder by academic leaders set a tragic tone for the forty years that followed. To rationalize the new separate-but-equal ethos, these people of liberal good intentions constructed an elaborate ideology of “multiculturalism” and “diversity” that had the tragic unintended consequence of obliterating the foundational idea of a common culture that had animated the struggle Dr. King gave his life to, as well the basic notion of what it meant to be an American.” — JHK
I also believe this to be the crux of the matter. (Turns out that a delusion of extra-specialness replaced the bottom-caste bitterness; maybe the old “the best defense is a good offense” type of strategy? Many of us Yankees have a pointed aversion to braggadocio and a deliberate lack of neighborly respect and circumspection.)
Be that as it may, it is what it is, and I intend to continue to judge every individual as exactly that. If one intends to present as a belligerent asshole, one can expect a response in kind; skin color be damned. (It’s generally not the best long-term survival strategy, as a plethora of evidence would suggest. …And that’s gonna go *double* as the privations continue to spread.)
I do not think there is a problem with preserving Irish music, African music and dance and some sense of past ethnic identities or gathering together to try to advance one’s mutual shared interests.
The elite for years had fraternities and sororities..
I do agree that some of the Left made a major error in embracing Affirmative Action solely on the basis of race rather than class which is
the true arbiter of privilege in America. Race is just a very bad indicator of class which is the true repository of privilege in the USA.
There are actually far more whites on welfare than blacks and huge swaths of the white middle class who have fallen into poverty already in the great Contraction.
Unfortunately the great opportunity that was opened up in the 1960’s by making College affordable even to the working class has been shrinking with $100,000 college bills while College Presidents get paid in the $millions.
Of course Kunstler, although college educated himself, thinks college itself is overvalued. And I agree that academicism only is overvalued. But we will desperately need skilled machinists, agriculturists, mechanical repair experts who should be trained in
technical colleges and not just academic.
Jesse Jackson, oft disparaged by Mr Kunstler, said back in his
presidential primary race in the 1980’s that class was more important than race as he tried to rally working class Unions to his side. In my own largely white transit village Jesse Jackson succeeded in getting a majority of our votes in the primary amazingly enough.
While Kunstler has gone on about the unfortunate police killings and supposed liberal responsibility for racism, the banksters just put through a huge safety net at all our expense for commodities derivatives sponsored by Citibank. Conveniently just in time for the crash in oil prices…. hmmmm
Also in the rest of world January 25th looms as a key date frightening the banksters in the EU as it appears certain that Syriza will come to power in Greece and directly challenge the banksters.
My nephew from Spain informs me that the “Indignados” movement which spun off from the Spanish Occupy spinoff has transformed itself into the new Podemos party which is challenging both neoliberal Corporatist parties in Spain and already won a lot of seats in the EU parliamentary elections.
Big changes are brewing and I do not think they will remain squestered in Europe…
If Syriza wins and gets its way, that will be a win for the banksters too.
Tsipras wants the ECB to include Greek bonds as part of the bond buying binge that the ECB is planning.
He also wants those bonds to largely be written off.
In other words, Syriza would like the ECB to buy bad greek loans and be the one to be shellacked on bad Greek loans.
But who is the ECB? It is not a private bank like Goldman Sachs. It is a quasi-governmental central bank that controls the Euro, used by most Europeans. If the ECB buys garbage Greek debt, it is not private investors who suffer the consequences, it is the people of all the European nations under the Euro who take the hit.
It is just another way to essentially make German factory workers have to work more to pay for retired Greek public employees to be able to hang out in coffee shops sipping lattes.
However, it is perhaps a convoluted enough scheme that it won’t necessarily be completely obvious to German factory workers (and the rest of the workers in the Eurozone) that they are the ones being defrauded.
Forgot a key point:
Why will a Syriza win be a win for the banksters? Because if Syriza gets its way, the private bank corporations will get to dump their Greek garbage loans on the ECB, and thus transfer the losses they incurred gambling on a corrupt nation (Greece) to the entire populace of the Eurozone.
Greece under austerity has been cutting public transit, hospitals, libraries and the usual array of public shared services. Tsipras has promised to stop and rollback these cuts in public services and oppose the banksters proposed privatization of everything.
If that gets paid out of the ECB printing more Euros so what?
At least it is better than the US Fed printing dollars to give directly to the banksters while they continue their relentless privatizing assault on all public assets so they can cannibalize them.
As for the cause of Greek debt, a major cause never mentioned by the Corporate media is their disproportionate waste on the military (so what else is new??). Greece is a mighty #7 in terms of military expenditures per capita:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditure_per_capita
Part of the deal to restore some semblance of democracy as against the Greek military dictatorship outlined in the classic movie “Z” was not to seriously cut the generals largesse.
the other problem is the tacit agreement to look the other way as yacht owners, billionaires and upper middle class professionals like Doctors and lawyers paid almost zero taxes.
Again while Tsipras is opposing any general sales tax which would penalize the 99% he IS proposing to make the rich and the affluent pay their fair share in taxes.
Will private interests benefit if Tsipras moves Greece away from austerity into a more shared economy for the public interest? Of course in the long run, because otherwise they will suffer along with all of us if we destroy the planet…
Further on military Waste and Greece is this report from
Counterpunch.org:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/02/the-2014-are-you-serious-awards/
“The Golden Scold Award to Germany and Chancellor Andrea Merkel for lecturing the Greeks on profligate spending and forcing Athens to swallow crippling austerity measures, while at the same time bribing Greek military officials to spend billions of dollars on useless weapons.
According to the Greek newspaper Kathimerini, arms dealers—mostly German, but also French, Swedish, and Russian—handed out close to $3 billion in bribes to secure $68 billion in weapons contracts over the next decade. One arms dealer dropped off a suitcase with over $800,000 in it at the Greek Arms Ministry.
Athens spent $2.3 billion to buy 170 German Leopard II tanks, which are largely useless for fighting in Greek terrain. In any case, the tanks were sent without any ammunition (although this past August the Greek Defense Ministry coughed up $69.9 million to buy ammunition from the German company Rheinmetall).
The Greeks also paid more than $4 billion to purchase German submarines that are still in dry dock, and, from all accounts, are very noisy. It is not good to be noisy in the silent service. According to Der Spiegel, the German company that makes the U-214 shelled out over $2 million in bribes to land the contract.
In the meantime, the austerity policies forced on Greece by the “troika” of international lenders—the International Monetary Fund, European Central Bank, and the European Union—has impoverished millions of people and driven the unemployment rate to over 20 percent (50 percent for those under 25). Since 2008, Greek infant mortality has risen 21 percent and child mortality is up 43 percent. Suicides are up 45 percent.
In exchange for the military spending, the Greeks got submarines that sit on the land, tanks they can’t use, and lectures from Merkel about saving money.”
Somehow the Corporate Welfare State can always manage to waste money for its own profits while scolding the people for spending too much on water, food, medicine and transit.
Rather like Detroits bankster puppetmaster agreeing to spend
billions for a new Detroit Redwings stadium to primarily benefit its billionaire owner while slashing legally mandated public pensions…
Well spotted, orbit. I’m keen to see what transpires on the 25th…
orbiter7,
Those are good points, and I think it shows how circumstance and looming flocks of “black swan” consequences will be in charge of the *direction* of the breaking waves of change that will be upon us, regardless of how hard we wish otherwise… (And I concur; it will have nothing to do with this “growth” crap we’re constantly bombarded with by venal propagandists.)
The only way out is through.
Yes, as General Robert E Lee said, “At em boys. Let’s give them the cold steel.” I like you!
Speaking of college, the President of out local State U just got a raise … to $18,000 per week.
Other Perquisites:
Mansion on Campus, fully appointed, fully staffed.
Mansion in Hartford, fully appointed, fully staffed.
Limo available 24/7, with full time driver
Full time personal security provided by the State Police.
Funds for entertaining and travel
This is not the Queen of France, but an administrator at a mid sized State University.
Then again, at the same school, the men’s basketball coach is paid $50,000 per week (you read that right), and the woman’s coach about $40,000 per week.
I have a suspicion this might be why tuition is so high. I might be wrong.
brh
$18K/week? That’s more than the UC president makes – almost twice as much I think.
I worked at UCSF 22 years, and when I left, the CEO of the Medical Center was making almost $2M in salary and bonus, much more than the UC president.
Re: bloated administrative salaries in higher education: The argument is always made that they can’t get the best people without paying those salaries. Never applies to staff though.
It leads to lousy management. In short it’s operationally stupid. That “common culture” again!
He and Michelle O have much in common.
Its the ‘let them eat cake’ attitude prior to le revolution.
What is the presidents name and how did he arrive at such a plum station?
PHD? Prior work exp?
“I do agree that some of the Left made a major error in embracing Affirmative Action solely on the basis of race rather than class which is
the true arbiter of privilege in America. Race is just a very bad indicator of class which is the true repository of privilege in the USA.”-orbit.
This is an accurate statement. But because it is, we see little of its like in the common press. . . Can’t have the hoi-polloi getting ideas… etc.
😉
Bravo. Odin told me that we could count on you.
Jim, that kind of attitude is not going to get you invited on Bill Moyer’s PC TV show.
Consider yourself uninvited!
–brh
Kind of harsh to single Bill Moyers out. There is an army of purveyors of “conventional wisdom of the Establishment Left” who dominate 90-95% of the Old Media in America.
You’re right on that. I could have said Charlie Rose or Bob Schiefer or a dozen others.
Bill “Take that goddamned bubble top off unless it’s pouring down raining” Moyers. Yeah we know how his toast got buttered.
Nowhere to stick this, but I have to say that I’m very glad this column isn’t about currency manipulation!
Divide and conquer.
I don’t think that its about race, or gender, or anti-semitism, or gun control, or abortion. These are merely examples of the basic tactic of divide and conquer. Among the weapons of mass distraction, if you will. What is happening is not about any of these things.
I suspect that a covert police state is beginning to flex its muscles. These situations are not about race or about someone else. These situations are your immediate future.
That’s the good news. The bad news is that, in my opinion, these diversions and distractions have made the alternatives worse.
Yes, the Elite are using racism to hide their class dominance. But they didn’t create racism anymore than they created electricity, which they also use against us.
Jim, I’m not sure we have ever had a common culture for at least 200 years or so. The grits and cornpone terrain south of the Mason Dixon has always been different from the rest of the country and a culture that embraced slavery as part of their culture and business model has no business being part of the rest of the country. I consider Abraham Lincoln’s decision to pursue the Civil War as the greatest mistake of any president. When the guns started firing on Ft Sumpter, he should have said “Fine. You’re on your own. Have your own country.” Instead we had a Civil war which divides the country to this day. We are effectively balkanized and I hope the day will come someday when The southerners will rise(Fall) again and go their sordid separate ways.
I agree. What was so great about the union. I never understood that. Not that I was for slavery. Lincoln’s war on the south was clearly illegal and properly called “the War of Northern Aggression.” I never understood blacks staying in the south either. I’d been on the first northbound train out there. It was written into the constitution that states were free to leave the union anytime they wanted. Ditto for Texas.
Well said. There was also an Anti-Slavery movement in the South. As Lee said, slavery was very hard on the White Working Man as well as being immoral in its essence. In truth it corrupted both the Slave and the Owner.
One point assiduously hidden to this day: the Slavers were mostly Yankees and Jews, some of whom continued their trade after the War, going to points farther south. Utter hypocrites of course, as was the Press that covered for them.
It would be interesting to compare the economic status of black Americans during the Jim Crow era to that today.
This is just a subjective perception but it seems to me that a lot bigger proportion of the black American population made it into the middle class in the mid 20th century than is the case today. Even though discrimination was far more prevalent then than it is now.
So it would appear that it is something other than the legacy of slavery that is holding black people down. I’m not saying that I buy into the easy answers that conservatives claim, such as that the proliferation of public assistance programs has sapped black people of ambition and pride.
But the legacy of slavery is clearly not the explanation.
the first big advance of Blacks to the middle class was the huge migration from the South to the factories of the North in WW II.
Wall Street’s offshoring of factory jobs overseas has disproportionately
affected the black working/middle class in Rust Belt America.
On the other hand, the Civil Rights movement has allowed unprecedented numbers of blacks into professional and white collar jobs and colleges where they had been excluded.
And of course Jackie Robinson paved the way for a legion of well-paid professional black athletes but statistically there are not really that many of those…
And just 30 years ago the USA had factories and prosperity.
How things change.
As far as yr theme of blacks being excluded from school that is tragically laughable. farcical. Hysterical.
Most YBMs drop out of HS. Liking school be actin white.
Hugho, that’s a mean thing to write about the south. A lot of former yanks live here, you know. So much for that Common Culture (?) with that attitude JHK.
As collapse slowly but surely picks up speed, and the State marches toward Fascism, it seems to be following the classic historical pattern of scapegoating, which targets the most easily identifiable minority group(s) on the lower end of the socio-economic scale to be the first victims of the crushing police state.
While I agree that the long history of racism against blacks in America never really went away, but just went underground, this is a new, and more troubling phase of that playing out for fresh and more profound reasons.
After living in Germany and seeing very similar racial discrimination against the Turkish minority (who emigrated to replace the missing labor class in a post WW1 Germany) , and having friends who lived in Asia and saw very similar patterns in Japan and China with the Philippians and Vietnamese, respectively, I think the master-slave racial bias is long lasting and independent of a merely black/white divide.
So let’s call this current blatant murder spree for what it really is.
The Elites now see the welfare class as dead weight that they want to shed the responsibility for the care of, and they will go about demonizing any segment of it they can, setting one segment apart as a “well of hate” for the peeps to direct their anger towards, so that they may be marginalized, and disenfranchised.
When they get so suppressed as to break out into open rebellion, the justification for extermination is already in place.
Using pre-existing White fear is just too convenient.
This not only serves their purpose of misdirecting the anger away from themselves, but simultaneously re-enforces the justification for the militarization of the inside-the-country federalized “army”.
This is darker and deeper than historical racism.
So since it is so deep and so natural to human nature, isn’t that an argument for mono-racial states – which are local and indigenous to the Land? I mean what the hell are Turks doing in Germany? And the economic argument falls flat: the Muslims have been pouring into Europe for decades despite double digit unemployment. It’s being driven by a desire to destroy European Culture. The Elite reason that Western Culture must die so that the World State can be born. They’ll come after the East Asians after we are “integrated” with the 3rd World – in other words, after we don’t exist anymore.
I think we are in agreement, Johio. Racism is a tool, not a symptom.
Orbit7er, I was remiss in merely skimming your comment before posting. Otherwise, I would have attributed your use of the phrase, “divide and conquer.”
Agreed. Racism and terrorism, the prime tools in the fascist cook book. Sprinkle with eugenics and religion, with just a dash of hate crimes, let simmer for 10 or so years and WALLAH! despotic dictatorship.
What about the Hindus? They have lots of religion and racism. Can we agree that they have to be destroyed somehow? And the Muslims have religion so they have to go. East Asians? Not so much religion, but massively racist. They go too.
You, like all Anti-Fa types, are on the same side as the Elite you hate so much. They understand the relationship; you do not.
You people are their attack dogs.
What has to be destroyed is religion. It is the lynchpin of hatred. Religion gives people the moral superiority to be cruel. Religion is what ails you my friend.
So Stalin and Mao weren’t cruel? They were atheists, their “religion” was man and his well being. That’s why they felt free to kill so many. They were helping! Just so, you would like to kill billions in order to bring in your dream of a Non White, Non Religious World. You have so much Luv….
What are you retarded? Stalin was a Jesuit priest.
Stalin went to the seminary for awhile but never became a priest and did not keep up with his Catholicism. Indeed, did he ever believe in it at all?
That’s ok. I’m sorry Stalin isn’t pure enough for you. But you still have Lenin, Pol Pot, Mao, etc.
He went for 8 years. I think you could become a God by then. All the blood thirsty dictators of World War 2 were Catholic. Put those on the scales next to anybody.
What are you retarded? Stalin was a Jesuit priest.
In this case ‘seawolf’ you seem – if not retarded, lying and dumb.
There is no proof Uncle Joe was a priest. Actually he was married.
Stalin was a jesuit priest.
AND JESUS WAS BLACK, MON!!!
And James Howard Kunstler is a third-circle reptilian overlord from Ganymede
In fact, this is a wonderfully astute and concise analysis of what really happened. As a kid I remember watching “Hogan’s Heroes,” “The Bill Cosby Show,” and “Julia,” which were situation comedies featuring characters who were just Americans like me who happened to be black. “Kinch” and Mr. Kincaid and Julia were non-militant, normal Americans with the same hopes and dreams and expectations of the rest of us non-black Americans. Even though there were virtually no black people (one family) in my hometown, I thought nothing unusual about Robert, the kid my age from that family, because he seemed the same as Kinch and Julia and Mr. Kincaid! He certainly dressed and acted the same as me. (The only aspect of his physical person I thought remarkable was that he had an OUTTY bellybutton!) This was before the Black Power movement co-opted the community and ruined everything. Meanwhile, MLK was the great national hero of my childhood, the one truly great man whose greatness nobody gainsaid, and I mean NOBODY. Not even the Kennedys were that revered. It was one brief shining moment that might have led to a true civil community of equals. I am fortunate that my first impression of the black “community” (!) occurred in the mid-to-late 1960’s before the situation metasticized into the cancerous tumor of BET and Al Sharpton clownship that it became.
You realize now that MLK was a media creation I assume? That he was a Communist, a plagiarizer, sex fiend, etc? That his non-violence was a political stance not a deeply held belief? That he had friends who were violent Black Separatists? That he invited them to work with him, but only if they respect his tactics? That Communists don’t take vows of pacifism anyway, if violence works then they’ll go with that.
Childhood is sacred and we should nurture them with positive myths, but the myths should prepare them for later life. Creating Black Gods is obviously dysfunctional for White Children. They need their own Heroes and Gods. Faery Tales are good too – traditional ones with monsters and boogie men and evil witches. All these things are real you see. We’ve learned that over the last few decades haven’t we? PC Faery Tales are utterly dysfunctional – they attempt to emasculate little boys and efeminize little girls. Instead of having boys be girls and girls be boys why can’t we let them be what nature intended?
Janos is there anything about black America that you find acceptable? Is there any crime against black America that you find undeserved? You are as predictable as enema. Someone squeezes your bottle and all of just wait with bated breath for your explosive stream of watered down crap. Here’s a suggestion…BUTT PLUGS.
Hugho. Well JHK doesn’t like us Southerners much either. I have no racial answers except trying to create a “commonality of virtues” agreed on by public schools, the secular humanists and private churches alike. We could stress honesty, personal responsibility, justice, fortitude, magnanimity, temperance etc. I was an Eagle Scout which no doubt certifies my innocence. It wasn’t possible to create a common American culture when times were good so I am not hopeful as things slide further into the long emergency. We could all get along but all the ethnic groups have different “projects”. I don’t see a lot of sacrificial love in the whole diversity project and that is probably required.
Let’s not put the cart before the horse on this issue. Race is not a ‘cultural construct’ as John Michael Greer, among others, has proposed. It is a fact of biology. Though the evolution-driven differences between the races are very slight, they have been primarily manifested in the visual realm, and, as humans are ‘visual creatures’ these differences have taken on an importance well beyond any genetic merit they may or may not have.
We instinctively rely more heavily on visual input, than any other sensory information. In other words, dogs don’t care much what something looks like (in fact, by our standards, they don’t see very well at all) just as long as it smells familiar. The opposite is true with humans.
Our survival dictates that we treat that which looks different with caution. The instinctual need to socialize in hierarchal formats exacerbates the cultural problems that result from having different races cohabit a geographically or politically defined region. Inevitably the master race (no matter the stripe) demands legal and cultural compliance from the under-races. The under-races eventually form their own sub-cultures, or build on existing formats, and separate from the larger society.
Keep in mind that this process is happening in Europe where there has been little or no history of slavery, as well as in the US.
Instinct dictates the general outlines of the behavior of every individual human as well as every culture, no matter how primitive or sophisticated.
I remember you making this “visual” point relative to evolutionary biology before and I agree. However, I also believe that our educational system has been remis in not discrediting the word race and the implication that skin color or facial characteristics also beget some sort of inherent social behavior. Anglo culture has been the most guilty of this and surprising given it was the fountainhead of natural selection. Charles pretty much proved that if you settled a group of white skinned Brits in subsahara Africa and let them breed without native contact, in 30 to 40 generations their progeny would all be black.
Whatever anti-social or asocial behaviors American Blacks (as a group) exhibit can be seen a result of their continued status as second-class citizens. I have a hard time seeing Jim’s point where this matter is concerned. I can’t see why blacks would want to adjust to a white cultural and economic structure that doesn’t even function well for most white people!
this process is happening in Europe where there has been little or no history of slavery,
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What, are you kidding? Where do you think the word Slav comes from? I will venture that half of all Europeans have ancestors who were enslaved.
‘Slav’ is an ancient Greek word. It refers to the central and eastern European barbarians who were routinely captured and brought to the Greek city-states to labor. Obviously my comment doesn’t involve ancient history. I think you knew that.
Stick to copy editing and leave the content to others.
Racism is put in you just like religion, when you’re a child. In some cases like liberals, it doesn’t take immediately, but when the child reaches adulthood and “sees”, like a delayed fuse it goes off years later. To end racism you need at least 2 generations, one that flushes it out, and another generation to get the stragglers. Ditto religion. After 2 generations no one will even remember the stupid mannequin hanging on the wall. Our explanations for it, our manufactured excuses are more for our parent’s sake i.e. they weren’t that bad or all wrong. The fact is very few of us had good parents, but everyone thinks they did.
Watch some episodes of I Spy, and you can see proof that blacks and whites can cooperate.
Got to give Jim much credit for having the fortitude to touch the very dangerous “Third Rail” of American discourse. That, of course is because there is NO real discussion of the awful racial problems, that is bubbling, like the Yellowstone Caldera, just beneath the surface of or our civilization.
To try and return to the days of a common American society is done and gone thanks to globalization, the internet, and the deluge of mass immigration to the U.S.A. over the last 50 years (may God eternally damn Lyndon Johnson, Ted Kennedy and Jacob Javits for that!)
There was, I think, a very short space after Brown vs. Board of Education in 1954 where a common culture was possible e.g. look at how “doo-wop’ music and sports integration came almost seemingly naturally to bring black and white together with common narrative. The vast majority of black and white folks behaved civilly, dressed approriately, went to church, had a nuclear family of a mom and dad raising kids….the list goes on. And most importantly there were jobs so people could work, bring themselves to the middle class and a better life (that mythical American Dream if you like.)
Then Kennedy gets whacked and everything fell apart. Mass immigration coupled with the wholesale export of the American industrial base meant those good jobs were going to be fought over. And they were.
Fast forward today to an older, declining, white America suffocated on 500 channel TV, porn, pro sports and poison food.
And now ask yourself: who is not gagging on Hip-Hop nation effluent, the rumblings of “La Raza,”and the growing millions of Muslims who really hate the USA and its culture (but they come here anyway because its better then the hellholes they come from.)
A reading of Samuel Huntington’s salient treatise concerning the the Clash of Civilizations” and his “Who Are We?…” goes far in providing clear eyed analyses of this very topic.
Oh? Do we see such decorum in Black Africa? They were copying us, you see. They were in awe of us and also, afraid. Now they have lost all their respect and fear (the two are the same in most African languages). They are free to be themselves – thus the devolution to African standards. We’ll soon see cannibalism which is coming back in Africa since the White Man is gone.
Surely you are not so cruel to make them act White are you? What right do you have? That would be saying that America is White and that Whites have rights. All of that is in conflict with the Zinnian Gnosis that has been promulgated for decades on our campuses.
Speaking of Black Africa, Nigeria, with its population of 160 million, is imploding. Events there could make the genocide in Rwanda look like a boy scout picnic.
brh
Since the 1960’s there has been a steady coarsening of public behavior, regardless of color or ethnicity. I remember black people who were every bit as upstanding and genteel as any white person – sometimes even more so, given the individual’s station in life. It was not at all uncommon nor was it related to income. Frankly, public decorum and civility is largely gone. People of the same color are not civil to each other, so why should we expect them to be otherwise with someone of a different color. We have equality now – just not the way some of us had in mind. Equally uncouth.
Yes it the war of all against all. Hobbes has triumphed. Life is becoming nasty, brutish, and under the ACA, short. The Elite have Class Consciousness and have downed America. Now they seek to undermine Russia and China and Islam. Hopefully they will find their Quietus instead.
Janos, I haven’t seen or heard the word “quietus” used in many, many years. Yet it such a good word indeed. It warmed my heart to see it used once again.
‘The Leviathan’
Those two police officers shot in Brooklyn were killed near Marcus Garvey Boulevard, formerly Sumner Avenue, which was originally named for the Massachusetts senator who not only strove to free the slaves but also strove to make freed blacks the equals of whites. And the street gets renamed for a foreign instigator and elevated to boulevard status. Draw your own conclusions.
An interesting essay & one that I’m very appreciative of. I am interested in exploring this one paragraph however;
“Something went terribly wrong in the early going, and I don’t think there has ever been an honest discussion about it by American social thought leaders of any race, though I have raised the point more than once in passing. It was the paradoxical rise of black separatist politics at the exact historical moment of civil rights triumph when the two landmark civil rights bills were passed: the Public Accommodations Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.”-J H K.
Yes, I agree that this was the critical juncture and tragic outcome. Having said that I’d like to add *two things* about this seemingly “paradoxical” historic misstep (or misdirection);
1. That the views and motives of Malcolm X and others of ilk nature were shaped by traumatic encounters with extreme, persistent culturally ingrained and officially sanctioned racist violence which they __never__ got over [*]. It completely warped any subsequent attempts by them at thinking critically and above all strategically.
Malcolm’s dad was a Garveyite separatist killed by what we would now call white separatists. There was no police inquiry into his death and no community outcry- and this was just the start of a long series of nasty hard knocks for the young man. Thus, when we consider the man that would rename himself “Malcolm X” – and by extension everyone with similar experiences (and they were and are many) – we do not have a completely rational person in view…
2. The *economic* situation that pertained at that time needs to be considered – because that underlying _data-based and factual_ reality is what created such a fertile field for black separatists to till.
1956 was the watershed year that service workers outnumbered blue-collar workers for the first time in the US. It was also the beginning of a savage round of layoffs in LA county and inner-cities elsewhere in the nation. South-Central Los Angeles was particularly hard-hit as these (intentionally designated) historic black neighborhoods lost their jobs to the expanding arc of suburbs encroaching on the Mojave desert.
Eight years later – 1964 – the situation was critical. A lot of black families had lost their homes and were bankrupt. This was an explosion waiting to happen – which it did during the horrific Watts Riots of that year. Subsequent race-rioting throughout the nation also happened in areas which had been economically hollowed-out.
Once again, when we consider the race-rioting of the 60’s era we need to factor the social effects of de-industrialization. And – since this needs to be said when posting on CFN – I’m not interested at all in blaming or taking sides. I’m only interested in obtaining the clearest, most accurate picture of events possible.
At present, I see economic stress as the common denominator underlying the aforementioned. Yes, there were sociopaths and outright psychotics using race as their ‘trigger’ – but if it wasn’t race it would have been something else. The wheels of economic destabilization were already turning rapidly by the middle of the 20th century. Jobs were already gone and weren’t coming back – and therefore lives and communities were gone, and weren’t coming back.
This meant – in our economically and culturally brutal American context – that there were people who no longer mattered, and they were treated accordingly. All else that followed were a series of rationalizations, over-reactions and emotive gas-bagging.
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[*] The presence of unreasoning race-hate is simply a fact of life in America, and it is exacerbated by economic stress. This is something that we CFN-ers need look no farther than CFN to experience & document… 😉
The Watts riots were in 1965. Minor correction.
Yes. Thank you very much! 🙂
All other points stand…
And the whites ran like hell. Suburbanization accelerated during the 60’s facilitated by the expanding interstate system, slap-dash construction and cheap land. The decaying urban ghetto expanded, and, as educated and affluent blacks moved to the edges of the city, became more economically and educationally segregated.
I was living in Baltimore during the April riots of 68. A group of us retreated to the rooftop of our Bolton Hill apartment house and watched the city burn. It was OK. We knew the city was dying – had know it for a while. The writing was on the walls – literally. Plus we had stocked up on several days worth of weed and spirits.
Nice comment Mr. D; very comprehensive.
As long as there are less and less jobs, the racial divide on understanding will never close. Alot of underclass blacks are a captive audience, captured by a destructive “thug culture”. and the false hope that politics will solve everything. The president is not shipping jobs out of the country, the large companies are, they don’t answer to voters and a lot of young blacks don’t get that. Some of those young blacks are educated, but are underemployed, so they sometimes think it is racial discrimination holding them back instead of the economic conditions of the country. But, there is no one who explains this to them, so they subscribe to what the sharpton’s and the Jacksons say to them. They don’t realize that there are a lot of whites barely making it also, they are just focused on their own problems. When you’re in desperate poverty, you have a short term focus, you’re trying to get through the next day with something to eat and a place to stay, you don’t think about the big picture, but that leaves you vulnerable to a lot of bullshit that’s being spouted in the MSM. The current common culture doesn’t work for them, but they don’t realize that it’s not really working for anybody but the 1%. Thanks to “The Long Emergency” my thinking has changed and I can see that we are in the throes of a long decline. But, because of the manipulation of TPTB, a lot of people have a lot of distrust and a “culture” that will not work for them white or black. The people who have much don’t realize they have to contribute to keep some type of system going or they will lose much eventually. The ones who don’t have much, have to take on some personal responsibility for their actions and also have an open mind. I’m not hopeful for the future.
The President isn’t outsourcing? But he is insourcing, massively. Face it: he is a tool of the Elite just as Bush was/is/will be. So is Ben Carson who repeated the mantra, “Our immigration system is broken.”
I agree, but we allowed that to happen . We became “consumers” ( I hate that word) instead of “citizens”. Citizen implies some responsibility to the common good and the application of common sense
Yes I hate it too. It’s the lowest definition of man in history. Alas, America was founded on it I’m afraid. And the Capitalist Elite attained class consciousness very early here. Think of it: they imported massive numbers of Germans whom even Franklin said was a mistake. And later Irish Catholics, whom they despised and who despised them – all to make money and grow industry as fast as possible. Anglo-Saxon working men were massively displaced on the East Coast, but their “betters” cared about them not one whit. And on and on, each group more alien than the one before. The miracle is that they were able to assimilate so many groups into some kind of coherent White Nation at all. And then they threw that away to make even more money. And they have even bigger plans, to capture all markets and rule the world. For that to happen, the West has to die. So that they are in the process of doing.
We are seeing the same thing, 1:1.
On the ‘brighter’ side; while it is true that culture doesn’t change except through a series of traumas and seizures, we have a self-made chances to reformulate and course-correct. Will it be perfect? Of course not. But it will have to be configured in a way that conforms to reality, as opposed to full-spectrum wishful thinking.
Chip-Cheerio!
If an entire race of people have had their collective head forced under water for hundreds of years, should anyone be surprised that when finally allowed a breath of equitable air, they are not thrashing and disagreeable?
As Rudolfo Corky Gonzales wrote:
“Yo soy Joaquín,
perdido en un mundo de confusión:
I am Joaquín, lost in a world of confusion,
caught up in the whirl of a gringo society,
confused by the rules, scorned by attitudes,
suppressed by manipulation, and destroyed by modern society.
My fathers have lost the economic battle
and won the struggle of cultural survival.
And now! I must choose between the paradox of
victory of the spirit, despite physical hunger,
or to exist in the grasp of American social neurosis,
sterilization of the soul and a full stomach.
Yes, I have come a long way to nowhere,
unwillingly dragged by that monstrous, technical,
industrial giant called Progress and Anglo success….
I look at myself.
I watch my brothers.
I shed tears of sorrow. I sow seeds of hate.
I withdraw to the safety within the circle of life —
MY OWN PEOPLE”
Yes, what’s a vato to do except trip horses, hold dog fights, cock fights, drive drunk, sell drugs, and abuse under age girls.
You do know the Mexican Elite are blonder than America’s, right? If they want revenge on some “Anglos” then they don’t have to come here. But you see they are afraid of those White People – as well as they should be.
My point was that oppressed people usually pop up defiant after being held down. Take physical abuse for example. When a victim of abuse finally dumps the perp who physically abused them, they often try to recover a sense of identity and self-esteem. And they’re often angry: anger and fear, twin sides of the same coin as they say. Needless to say, their is no good reason to live or associate with a person who once abused you.
A strained metaphorical stretch? No doubt, but it does perhaps provide a sense of why some sought isolation from past tormentors, as much due to mistrust along with seeking to recover some pride and dignity. Or at least to my mind.
I agree. And Whites have been ruthlessly persecuted for generations now. It’s our turn to speak out and act on our behalf against the evil Elite who torment us. You better decide which side your own. Hint: the Mexicans are on the side of the evil Elite.
Jesus H., Mr. K. Unlike you and many of your readers, I can’t claim to be an expert on black folk, but I do have a couple of comments.
I’m a bit astonished that such a fan of suburbanization as yourself would have nothing to say on the role of “white flight.” I suppose you would dismiss the ideas of many people that the terror of city life propagandized by almost every form and outlet of media is in no way sourced to or intensified by fear of black people.
My home, Memphis, has a population of just over 729 thousand; 57.7% black. Cordova, nearly 53 thousand, Germantown, 37.5 thousand, and Collierville, nearly 36 thousand. They are 7.9%, 2.4% and 9.2% black respectively. Germantown has fewer than a thousand black people. Household income is $14.8, $25.8, $34.7 and $26.2 thousand (zipatlas.com). What white flight?
A few decades ago I was drawn down on by a white police officer. I was in my car, at night, in a black neighborhood, waiting to give a friend a ride. I consider myself lucky to have gotten out of that encounter alive. I could tell by his voice that that fucker was scared shitless.
Look as well at these three things I’ve seldom heard people discuss.
World War I, the Depression and WWII convinced a lot of black (and white) people to get the hell out of the south. The mechanical cotton harvester convinced the remaining holdouts to leave. Those who left early found strong unions and good manufacturing jobs. Of course the unions resisted admitting black workers. And by the time the unions eased admission the jobs were disappearing. And the jewels of America’s manufacturing cities were groaning under the influx of southerners and job loss.
When did black folk finally achieve political clout? Just as the cities were falling apart. Just as conservatives were waging a campaign to destroy every favorable connotation of politics and politicians.
And when did black people, after contributing to all of America’s military campaigns, finally achieve full equality in the armed services? Vietnam.
Mr. K., you also talk a lot about student debt. I’d say between the tremendous increases in college tuition, the conservative attack on liberal arts and public education, “on-line education” and a general distrust of education making children less stupid than their elders, few folks are getting the education they need.
Fuck me! It’s not that black folks haven’t tried. I’ve heard from a number of the people who first integrated schools. Can’t say that I blame folks for not wanting to martyr themselves like those kids to salve the conscience of the white community.
What are you saying? That White Flight wasn’t real? Or that it was created by the Media? Or that it was real but the Media created the climate of fear that drove it?
It was/is real. It was based on the real life climate of terror the Blacks created thru their criminality – some of it overtly racist with Whites as the target. The Media has down played and/or castigated the Whites who fled calling them racists and cowards. Mandela called the Whites who fled his regime, the rape capital of the world, cowards. Another factor of course is the fear that if you wait, your home will become unsellable or sellable for pennies on the dollar.
Maybe there is no White Flight in your city. But there sure was in other places. I’ve found Liberals to be out of touch with reality. Do you really think that Cop was that afraid based on nothing real?
Are you implying Whites didn’t try? They did and they were met with derision and an incredible desire for revenge by Blacks, against people who never did anything personally to them. Our friend Sea Wolf makes no such distinctions, and such “60’s people” gained power in the Universities and encouraged Blacks to do their worst against White America. On the whole, Whites did the work, and Blacks didn’t. Now we have to stop idealizing Blacks and deal with them as they really are – enemies.
Thanks for citing the effects of de-industrialization and essential economic underpinnings. Since the Stone Age *resource* availability and access has forced change upon culture and power politics, not the other way around.
One of the reasons that the ‘race issue’ discussion flounders is that there are intentional (and concerted) efforts to sidetrack it down ancillary avenues – like ‘politics’ (such as they are in the USA), psuedo-science and ‘culture’ (ditto politics).
Ipat, you brought a little more of the Light of Reason to the discussion… It is appreciated.
Cheers!
Pseudo Science, the Dickens you say! You think that Stephen Jay Gould, a paleontologist, knows more about IQ than Arthur Jenson who was a Harvard Psychologist who specialized in it. And you think journalists know more about genetics than James Watson, whom they destroyed for speaking the simple truth that Blacks are less intelligent than Whites. Everyone knows it, but the Cult of Silence keeps them quiet, hiding from everyone, even themselves. Such self hiding is natural to women perhaps, but it is the ruin of higher order Men, Cultures or Nations. The divide runs right through the human heart. Look inside, you know very well that Watson was right and that Blacks are less intelligent. You know very well.
I grew up in West Baltimore in the 50’s and 60’s. Check out the first couple seasons of The Wire for context. Edmonson. By the time I was in the sixth grade I was one of a handful of white kids left in the school. My parents were children of the civil rights movement of the 40’s taught oddly enough (in my mother’s case) by family from Virginia and Texas. My father learned his from the Church (Presbyterian). When the neighborhood changed — slowly from a distance, then all at once — and the For Sale signs on all the blocks sprung up like mushrooms after a rainstorm, my parents told the “blockbusters” as they were called (real estate agents offering 50 cents on the dollar to sell right away) to drop dead. We were staying and going to prove the Brotherhood of Man. This was all well and good for a while but ultimately I ended up with a big bullseye on my back that shouted Whitey! I learned a lot about race relations and frankly have ended up in an ideological space that does not fit in any of the pigeonholes I see here in the comments section.
For what it’s worth, we ended up moving to suburbia. I think it had something to do with a home invasion and attempted rape around the corner. My mother, in denial, said she always wanted a detached house with a large yard. My father said nothing. I recall he ended up with 30 cents on the dollar in a real estate market that was generally inflating.
I have lived in the South, as well as the Middle Atlantic, New England, and New York City metro area. I read the comments by some about the South and conclude I must be living in some sort of parallel universe. Or the commenters are caught in some kind of time warp. Be careful what you wish for.
Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
College educated Blacks harass Whites while dining. They were told they were perfect beings. They believed. They were told they were the rulers of Ancient Egypt. They believed. And they were told that Whites stole their knowledge (as one would steal a flat screen TV, yo) and caused their downfall. They also believed that too. So now you get this kind of behavior. What else did you expect?
Nevertheless, big mistake gang. You don’t mess with brunch. White Liberals have become like the French: eating egg whites and salad followed by coffee in expensive little bistros. This ritual is sacred to them. You have just lost some allies and we have just gained some.
http://news.yahoo.com/black-brunch-protests-nyc-berkeley-oakland-190212742.html;_ylt=A0SO8ycC_KpUT2IA.MtXNyoA
This is just grumpy. “Unending strife?” Er… When is that supposed to begin? Crime is down, racial integration in the workplace is up, interracial marriage is up. Yes, we need to look a bit harder at police tactics, but it’s not like they’re prowling the streets looking to lynch anybody. The civil rights movement was a success on the ground. On television, however, people will keep screaming, from every viewpoint available. Jim’s earlier criticism of the hype is well taken. This posting, however, is intellectually vacant and beneath him.
I really prefer it when Jim says something surprising and which comes out of his own unique sense of culture, identity, and community, rather than a rant that comes straight from CNN. If the screaming is getting to you, turn off the TV and read something.
Common culture is a vague concept, especially in America. A nigga is a black redneck. a redneck is a white nigga. The rednecks have been a bit better in assimilating to northern values, or are at least more tolerated.
lower-class black “culture” has evolved since the victories of the civil rights movement. This culture is primarily commercial.we outsource manufacturing to spend more on merchandising/advertising: this culture is primarily commercial. The purpose of hiphop is to help people be less intelligent, more violent, and more confident about it than they otherwise would be.
In some vague older times, people who behaved too coarsely or crudely would be admonished informally by teachers/merchants/pedestrians/police/railroad station clerks/ushers/managers of public places, etc. This criticism is necessary for people to develop very basic intelligence about how to behave intelligently in public. Swarms of southern blacks moved north, grew up after victories of the civil rights movement, and grew up just buying the merchandise. they remained black rednecks, but any criticism of poor behavior was dismissed as “racism”.
Every black community is a failing community, and every school system and communities that blacks move into in large numbers becomes a failing school or a failing community. the exceptions are small enclaves where the best students in a large failing community are shipped in.
“Every black community is a failing community” — doggersize
Blacks have had successful communities but they were destroyed by white rioters.
8 Successful Aspiring Black Communities Destroyed by White Neighbors
http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/12/04/8-successful-aspiring-black-communities-destroyed-white-neighbors/
During the oil boom of the 1910s, the area of northeast Oklahoma around Tulsa flourished, including the Greenwood neighborhood, which came to be known as “the Black Wall Street.” The area was home to several lawyers, realtors, doctors, and prominent black Businessmen, many of them multimillionaires. Greenwood boasted a variety of thriving businesses such as grocery stores, clothing stores, barbershops, banks, hotels, cafes, movie theaters, two newspapers, and many contemporary homes. Greenwood residents enjoyed many luxuries that their white neighbors did not, including indoor plumbing and a remarkable school system. The dollar circulated 36 to 100 times, sometimes taking a year for currency to leave the community.
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In the early morning hours of June 1, 1921, Black Tulsa was looted, firebombed from the air and burned down by white rioters. The governor declared martial law, and National Guard troops arrived in Tulsa. … In the wake of the violence, 35 city blocks lay in charred ruins, over 800 people were treated for injuries and estimated 300 deaths occurred. – See more at: http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/12/04/8-successful-aspiring-black-communities-destroyed-white-neighbors/#sthash.tIrsDpjv.dpuf
I’m actually with PK on this one.
The Tulsa Race Riots were part of a trend of anti-black riots which destroyed black agrarian townships during the turn of the 20th Century. Once again, market price fluctuations and economic stress presaged increased violence – with race utilized as the trigger.
Fun fact: every American race riot prior to the Watts Riot of 1965 was initiated by working-class whites storming into a non-white enclave and wreaking havoc. This pattern held true up until after WW2 – the ‘Zoot-Suit’ Riots of LA (stoked by the Chandler Family owned LA Times).
Once again, economic stress was the underlying cause in most cases.
Can you imagine lower class Whites doing anything like that now? They are far too beaten down, drugged, and demoralized. These riots were a sign of health. And we don’t know what the actual trigger was – perhaps rape of White girls? In any case, multi-racial societies are weak and disunited and prone to this kind of thing. Now they we have stopped attacking them, they are attacking us. Since it’s going to be one way or the other, which do you prefer? The other two options are complete separation and complete miscegenation. Jefferson saw all this with complete clarity two hundred years ago. The option you probably choose, that of complete miscegenation, he considered unthinkable.
Except that Papa Jefferson miscegenated as much or more than any slave-owner, and in one case in particular – that of a mulatto son that resembled him – he not only freed him but underwrote an inn and the acquisition of income property to go with it… Just couldn’t stand to see a son of his (which flattered him in resemblance) mired completely in the muck of slavery.
The son in question died a well-off, very literate, musically talented freeman in N. Virginia.
Janos, there really is such a thing as overkill. Humble Suggestion: If you kept your virulent racism in your (figurative) back-pocket & only pulled it out when necessary you’d get a lot more respect.
Lefties ‘on the fence’ would be tempted to think that you were someone that could be reasoned with, and self-assured racially conscious whites would admire you for your self-discipline.
If that were the case, you’d actually come off as someone worth a moment’s notice!
😉
Do Black people ever fund non Blacks? Or is it only the White debbil that writes checks?
Ad Hominem, eh? You got nothing and you know it. The darkness inside you is growing.
Jefferson’s dalliance with the dark maidens is unfortunate, but no permanent damage is done as long as the offspring aren’t considered White. The One Drop rules protects us against the Tar Brush!
“These riots were a sign of health. And we don’t know what the actual trigger was-perhaps rape of white girls?” Janos will never hit rock bottom because he is plumbing the depths with an excavator.
Those communities were destroyed over 90 years ago. Most of them were in the South. All of the victims and perpetrators are now dead.
It is very sad that that happened, but it doesn’t have anything to do with blacks transforming nearly every community that becomes “theirs” into a slum for the last 50 years, or whatever modern “cultures” are.
If it were your father who got burned alive, you might feel differently.
Wall Street’s [offshoring] of factory jobs [overseas] has disproportionately – Orbit
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Isn’t the offshoring of jobs by definition “overseas?” If yes then isn’t the word overseas superfluous?
And just so you don’t think I’m picking on YOU let me point out this beauty from Hugho: “We are effectively balkanized and I hope the [day] will come [someday] when The southerners will rise(Fall) again…”
Let this stuff alone JK. It does not serve your purpose in fact is dis-serves it. The particulars of the history which lead to a distinct economic under class of black Americans, and their culture, are beside the point in the big picture. That picture being as the ‘growth’ promise of industrial/financial capitalism fails no underclass is going to be polite law abiding and docile in the model of little New England towns. An ideal which bleeds through much of your comments about contemporary styles and mores of the underclass.
I’ve not read your novels but I gather they portend lives lived that are not nice. So if you know it, deal with it. This scolding of the non participants in a system you decry seems very odd to me.
The main weakness in your argument is that it ignores the mirror image in the white community in the evolution and expansion of the Conservative political movement and evangelical religious movement, creating their own semi-overlapping separatism from that same common culture that MLK sought to embrace.
Separatism is not simply, or simplistically, a phenomenon of the Black Community, nor is it endemic to the US. We are witnessing it throughouty the world as the bonds that we thought would bind us together are becoming unraveled by contagious distrust of all institutions, fostered by their incompetence and too frequent self dealing at the expense of those they profess to serve.
Finally, Jim, there is an ironic counterpoint to your premise, and one you’ve often commented on before. If anything, black pop culture, to use that term loosely, has infiltrated and permeated white youth culture, from gangsta rap to ghetto haute couture, and who knows what else. And what is the attraction for white youths? How about shared disillusionment and despair. Now, there’s some interracial common ground to build on.
“Separatism is not simply, or simplistically, a phenomenon of the Black Community, nor is it endemic to the US. We are witnessing it throughouty the world as the bonds that we thought would bind us together are becoming unraveled by contagious distrust of all institutions, fostered by their incompetence and too frequent self dealing at the expense of those they profess to serve. “-el.
Nicely put. And I would add that it this symptom of disintegration manifested itself a generation earlier among black Americans, because they were economically dealt-out that much earlier.
Once again, it is resourcing/economics (in it’s broadest sense) that informs culture, not the other way around.
My earlier point exactly: why would Blacks want to throw in with a white culture that is clearly dysfunctional? As for the Millennials, I know a number of them – disillusioned and despairing? Yes, but mostly just disengaged.
By the way, the price of crude oil has dipped into the $40 range (WTI)…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-05/there-moar-blood-wti-crude-plunges-40s
And there was this to consider;
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-05/jeff-gundlach-if-oil-drops-40-geopolitical-consequences-could-be-terrifying
Sure ‘race’ is a factor… An ancillary factor.
Americans on average watch 35 hours of TV each week and consume 130 lbs of sugar per year.
According to Murray in his book “Coming Apart:The State of White America”, children raised in 2 parent families perform the best;
children born into 2 parent families who later divorce perform less well;
children raised by single parent mothers who never marry perform the worst. Children raised by cohabiting unmarried parents perform as poorly as children raised by never married single mothers.
Who was more revered by black people than Muhammad Ali in the 60s and 70s’? I would argue perhaps MLK but Ali was “The Man” back in the day. The economic argument mentioned by a few here makes a lot of sense but I also believe there was some hero emulation involved. Ali’s thoughts on separatism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqiWFLsgVi4
Racism and terrorism, the prime [tools] in the fascist cook book. Sprinkle with eugenics and religion, with just a dash of hate crimes, let simmer for 10 or so years and [WALLAH]! despotic dictatorship. – seawolf
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“ingrediants” would make for a consistent cooking metaphor and it’s VOILA not WALLAH.
Another huge new pro-Black movie is coming out: Selma, about the life of MLK at the point in time. There’s been a whole string of these now. Just coincidence that they line up with the troubles and a manufactured New Civil Right Movement?
Sea Wolf is a an anti-White grievance wallah.
And the Crime Rate in Selma in 2014 was?
“ingredients” would work even better.
Where are we with respect to Peak Oil? It seems that there’s plenty of oil and that the price of oil is not driven by market forces of supply and demand anyway, so what difference does Peak Oil make? (See Norman’s book, “The Oil Card”.) Also, I understand that they’re finding huge new oil fields far north, particularly in Siberia, which may explain why they’re targeting the Russians now. Please clarify. I’m confused. Thanks.
This is covered by J H K in his forecast for 2015… read it… ‘all things will be revealed’…
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Jim wrote his book [or started to] I’d guess about 12 years ago.
THAT IS ALSO A BILLION PEOPLE AGO.
We are multitudes. Seven? billion.
Peak Oil? Naaaa, peak everything.
Yes, I’m reminded of the little math illustration on doubling, you know the one, begin filling the stadium with drops of water doubling each time. When it’s about x full (don’t hold me to the details) just a little wet ankles, no need for concern, but real quick we’re over the top. We’re not doubling, just a little excrement on the shoes, but pretty soon everything is way beyond anything you want to think about.
Happy New Year
There is an even greater tragedy that predates and undercuts recent/current race issues – the wresting of this nation from the original inhabitants. The notion of a common culture has never meaningfully occupied the collective consciousness of white Americans or their European ancestors. With the country built on such a foundation, the subjugation of other ethnic groups was a natural progression. Racial equality has always meant assimilation of “lesser” ethnic groups into the greater current of a conquering culture. Of course, these broad categories have always been changing/evolving, and will continue to do so, but the foundational structure of subjugation/assimilation ever lurks in the depths.
Murray in his book “Coming Apart:The State of White America” says that in contrast to White Americans before 1963, working class White Americans today are more likely to “Goof Off”, which Murray defines as sleeping or watching TV.
Is this a satisfactory definition of “Goofing Off”?
What about Obama always playing golf? Is Obama a “Goof Off”? Or, Bill Clinton chasing Pussy. Is Bill Clinton a “Goof Off”? What about kids who play video games?
The rich are different [F Scott Fitzgerald].
[Edited Scene from the movie Forrest Gump]
Little Forrest: “Momma! Is that guy on top of you daddy?!”
Momma: “Maybe…Don’t stop it, Stud!”
“Alongside the men who say that they want to work but can’t seem to hold a job are growing numbers of men who have no intention of working if they can avoid it, and who not only live off their girlfriends but sometimes bankrupt them. Alongside the men who fathered childred by their girlfriends but make some effort to help are others who abandon their girlfriends as soon as they learn that a pregnancy is under way and are never seen again. Alongside the women who didn’t get married but are trying hard to be good mothers are those who are the horror stories that workers in the child protective services exchange—mothers who use three-year-olds to babysit for infants while they go out for the evening; homes where the children are brain damaged because the latest live-in boyfriend makes meth in the kitchen sink; and the many cases of outright physical and emotional abuse by never-married women who are not just overburdened mothers but irresponsible or incompetent ones.”
– “Coming Apart:The State of White America”
Hello Pucker,
With the aforementioned in mind, you might be interested in this:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/12/upshot/where-men-arent-working-map.html?abt=0002&abg=0&_r=1#
Interesting quote, considering recent ‘unmitigatedly’ good events:
“By many measures, the Dakotas — home to parts of the fracking boom — have some of the healthiest local economies in the country.”
Ooops! Oh well…
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I liked J H K’s 2015 prognostications very much. It is of course understood that these are statements made from a high-level, strategic standpoint – an aerial reconnaissance of the future if you will – but they align with what my own data suggests… And they are funny.
A few nuggets of particular gleam held the light of this readers ‘eye’;
“The signal event of 2015 will be the disintegration of Tom Friedman’s global economy, the trade and banking relations we have known for about a quarter century, especially the frictionless flow of goods and capital between East and West.”-J H K.
This is an easy one – just look at the hard-to-fake demand indicators and the state of global finance – upon which shipping letters of credit depend – and it take no leap of faith. But it does need to be said – over and over – for the benefit of those still clinging to ideological teddy-bears.
“Eventually, the Russians will have to care for the dying Ukraine. They will not be enthusiastic about it. They will do little and do it slowly.”-J H K.
Yes, Madame Winter has no time for excuses or ideological alibis, and she has many lessons to teach the hard-of-thinking.
“Anti-immigration sentiment in Europe spreads to the US as falling oil prices produce political disorder in Mexico prompting tens of thousands to try to flee north.”-J H K.
I find it ridiculous that there are people on the north side of the border who think that the US can become “another Mexico” (direct quote, from multiple sources).
I remember traveling south to Guadalajara on an actual steam train in the early 70’s. Mexico then was ruled by a one-party government (PRI). It was corrupt and comparatively violent – but it was also exotic, beautiful and had intact communities where a person could exist for years at a time without being visited by horror.
Post-NAFTA and WTO Mexico is a place where real horror stories (think: SAW, HOSTEL, etc.) happen everyday. Any uninformed nitwit who thinks that Mexico’s situation is sustainable in any way doesn’t know their *ss from their elbow. They instantly discredit themselves in my eyes. . . They certainly haven’t seen the bodies. Go home and stay there, you f*ckin’ lilac.
SO, for anyone to think _for_a_second_ that the US – which Mexico and the greater part of Central America has been leaning on for the past twenty-five years – will sustain dropping to that depth with nothing to lean on in turn, is utterly ridiculous. In my eyes they’re like an uniformed noob OGA dork hopping off a helo’ at some FOB and telling confirmed killers how to do their jobs… Sorry fella, that sh*t won’t fly ’round here, GFYS right now.
Mexico has been in collapse for years, the only thing left of it is the part that caters to El Norte, and things are ‘going south’ en el otro lado, I hear… 😉
“Good luck everybody. Gird your loins and fasten your seat belts.”-J H K.
Yep! You Betcha!
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Yes, Madame Winter has no time for excuses or ideological alibis, – Mr Darling discussing a JHK 2015 prediction involving Ukraine
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Interestingly, for the past month (since someone here speculated the Ukrainians would be freezing to death when Putin [would] shut off their gas supplies) I have been monitoring the temperature in Kiev and comparing it to where I live in Central NJ. I check every 2 or 3 days. Today, right now, is the first time Kiev has been colder. It is 12F there and 15F here in central “Joisey.”
Just to be clear: I never stated that people would be “freezing to death” en-masse (or at all) in Kiev.
I DID make statements regarding a change of tone in the communication between Kiev and Moskva starting in late September – which there was. They paid the cash they owed the regime in Moscow __in full__ so that they could get the gas switched back on, and their grand ‘final assault’ on the breakaway eastern republics ground to a halt.
Along the way there were comic little highlights like cabinet members getting mobbed and tossed in dumpsters by angry mobs in Kiev, and the any-pretense-is-gone maneuver of appointing US citizens to cabinet-level positions on the US Ambassadors say-so.
By Xmas they figured out that they’d been de-prioritized and left to dangle in the breeze by the State Dept… And there they will stay. Their fifteen minutes is up.
Hmmm, this kinda reminds me of what happened in Georgia in 2008…
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F*ckin’ Neo-Cons… They Never Learn.
As others have pointed out– the American social discourse on race and culture is deeply historical and is working its self out in current events. Saying that, I’d hope that what will happen will look a little more like, well– let’s say Argentina or Brazil, and not what happened in Yugoslavia in the 90’s.
The big story in American migratory trends really is the Mexican/Central American one right now. Yes, there are people from Asia and other parts of the world, but if you look at the demographic data of people who will really make a change in the US racial makeup– it’s not Asians, and it’s certainly not blacks. By the way, the Black percentage in the US hasn’t changed much in a very long time, and there may be some interesting reasons why. I’m not going to go there however, and really– I don’t find them that important.
What’s happening in the southwest US, Texas, and southern California, however, is important. The US is seeing a kind of mass migration by a ‘peoples’ or ‘race’ moving from one geographic area to another, that hasn’t been seen for some time in North America.
With these people, they bring a culture. What’s their culture? Largely a mix of Spain and native American, largely but not generally Catholic, and a dynamic of urban and rural.
These are all Goods (Capital G) for a US society which is floundering on moral relativism, neo-imperialism, anti-community, false senses of entitlement, and a general cultural malaise.
culture is deeply historical and is working [its self] out in current events.
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Since I have the tacit approval of Greg Knepp to continue copy editing I’d like to point out that the bracketed words above are generally combined into one word, [itself.]
And BTW, Greg appears to be a very bright guy but when it comes to the word Slav, Greg is as full of shit as a Christmas turkey according to my unabridged Random House Dictionary. There is absolutely no mention of Greece/Greek in connection with Slav and the word does not go back to “ancient history.” The last sentence in the definition of slave reads as follows: “Slav, so called because Slavs were commonly enslaved in the early middle ages.”
I can assure you that the word ‘Slav’ is of ancient Greek origin. You may want to research the topic more fully than your Random House Dictionary will allow.
Of course the usage held on through the Middle Ages and even up to the present. And yes, there was slavery in Europe. But the slavery (and its aftermath) of the Americas had no such contemporaneous events of scale in Europe.
Just a clarification: the Greeks were not referring to slaves directly, but to central and eastern Europeans no matter their occupation or status. The fact that the Greeks drew a large number of their slaves from that population led to the word ‘slav’ to take on the meaning of ‘slave’ over time.
Janos, you’ve mentioned the Elite numerous times today. I’m surprised you or someone hasn’t tied the discussion of race, class and the Elite to the show Downton Abby which began its new season last night. The show ran about 75 mins and was followed by 45 mins during which the shows expert on the manners and mores of the British elite in the early 20th century were examined in some detail.
Everyone seems to love this show (I like it too) and the only person I have heard/read deriding the culture of those times was Maureen Dowd. Being Irish she identified strongly with the underclass “downstairs.”
The Anglo Elite have utterly betrayed their own people in all of their countries; totally sold themselves body and soul to the New World Order and Globalism and to hell with their nation. Somehow I think this show would be bad for my blood pressure.
Ireland just got its first genuinely Nationalist Party. Sinn Fein were always Marxist traitors in reality.
http://www.dailystormer.com/new-political-movement-the-celtic-peoples-party-of-ireland/
Nearly every day, mine is usually the only white skin on a bus through one of Miami’s black communities “Liberty City”. We go past the first federal public housing project built during the FDR administration (single story garden apartments). The do gooders pushed blacks out of the crowded urban black community called “Overtown just north of downtown in part to relieve the overcrowding and to give them what was desired by the wealthy: lots of grass, trees, and transit by car. As Kunstler says, it seemed like a good idea at the time.
Now the standard line is the construction of I-95–which tore through Overtown where eminent domain land was cheaper–devastated the strong black community and set it on a path towards hell. But, I think the reason is different: segregation came down around the same time and blacks flocked towards nicer businesses that previously wouldn’t let through the front door the day before. You can imagine how exciting it must have been, but how devastating it was for every black business. THAT is the root of the problem and the same thing has happened to every small town in America when the big boxes opened just outside the city limits. With the businesses gone, gone was those who specifically hired blacks (versus today’s “best candidate”). The same thing happening to gays (and it is happening rapido) even though a small percentage are doing well.
The furor of the occasional “racist” commentt/action does nothing but feed the self righteousness of the young lefties, who wouldn’t be caught dead walking in a black community. If you want to help the black–or anything other–community, the only meaningful way is to spend your money there.
The second issue is–as usual–the car. The poor and working class simply cannot get ahead if they have a car. Too much of their earnings go into that car and its upkeep. It is source of their economic fall. Again, in the ’50s when all these suburbs were starting up and American businesses could price how they wanted, there was room for big salaries that allowed for car ownership. That day is over.
It’s interesting to think about what to do with all those dead shopping malls – enormous structures with massive HVAC systems and hundreds of tons of re-purposeable materials;
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-05/we-are-extremely-over-retailed-picturing-death-americas-malls
Sad, very sad. Where trees grew and the antelope played, there grew a Mall.
The Anglo Elite have utterly betrayed their own people in all of their countries
I’m not sure they have ever considered the unwashed masses “their own people.” For most of history, and perhaps all of history, the Elite have considered themselves a breed, or species/being even, apart and above. A movie I would suggest in juxtaposition to the historical fictional fantasy that is Downton Abbey is the following:
Glorious 39
It’s not always a good place to go — the past.
It’s well known that some of the best blood of Europe died in the world wars. It was expected, nay demanded that they take part. It was simply their duty. There was no George Bush Jr type outs either, not for the old Elite anyway. Same think in America. Read about Emerson’s son: he didn’t want to go fight the Civil War, but Ralph Waldo said you Must.
I’m not surprised you don’t know, it typical for Libertarians. You folks will have deep insights about certain things and know absolutely nothing about other things. Did they consider themselves a breed apart? Yes. Did they think they had a duty to the Nation or at least their own class? Yes again. It’s the new Economic Elite who don’t feel any bonds of duty. They got the Old Elite to kill themselves off and then they were able to take over. Up to and including WW2, everyone was expected to go. After that the whole culture changed for the worse.
Please educate me, Janos. Are you indicating the Rothschilds both inculcated and sponsored the World Wars and also fought in them? If so, maybe they have a penchant for blood & gore and wanted front row seats. And don’t backtrack and pretend you haven’t previously claimed the Rothschilds and the Jews brought about the World Wars.
Either way, for those interested aside from Janos, it’s a great movie. I found it captivating and thought-provoking. If you find the time, give it a try.
Like I’m the first one ever to say that the world wars were fought for economic reasons. The economic elite got the old elite to kill each other. And then they waltzed in and took over. No, of course they didn’t fight – why would they? And some of the old elite – like the House of Windsor – was smart enough to get down with the new program and have been allowed to hang around and even prosper. The House of Romanov? Not so much.
[think] thing.
Well known to whom? You make a case for the Bush’s wriggling free, and a case for the Emerson’s not being able too. One fought in Vietnam and the other in the Civil War. Your premise related to the world wars. Do you even realize how disjointed your reasoning is? Your conclusions are utterly void of substance.
Speaking of the Elite/Aristocracy and their impression of us lesser beings, we’re more likened to pets or beasts of burden or both and a few other things. In any case, we are easily controlled, manipulated, cajoled and useful for a myriad of purposes. And our young — well, sometimes, some of the Elite/Aristocracy like to consume them — quite literally.
Who’s Afraid Of Virginia Roberts?
How US is planning to fight the crisis
US strategy for global domination is simple: saddle up the European Union economically, forcing it to sign a slavish Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership agreement on the full economic surrender to go completely under US banks and US multinationals. China and the EU are the main economic rivals; the war on the territory of Ukraine is the leverage of the United States against the EU.
Once the EU will sign an agreement with the US and directly become part of the colonial “Empire of Good”, that’s when you can safely take on China without being afraid of cowardly stab in the back from Berlin or London. US will have to plunder Europe resource for 5-7 years, sufficiently enough to start a serious take on China. China has not just passed the US in economic development, but surpassed it by the order of magnitude, and it is no longer possible to hide it.
For comparison, China in 3 years produced more cement (infrastructure) than the US since its inception to the present day!
Fair economic competition of the US and China is impossible, since the work of the Chinese laborer is cheaper than labor of American robot! A Chinese workers today block next Technological Order in the United States – robotics. Without the defeat of the Chinese the economic miracle in the US has no future.
There are good reasons to suspect that the US technological leadership is also questionable, as the military, as well as financial, as well as ideological, as well as moral, as well as diplomatic. One could still argue about US leadership, but the superiority of the order of magnitude, as before, is already out of the question. United States have recklessly lost its superiority over the last 25 years.
http://sasha-portland.livejournal.com/104116.html
Welcome to 2015, where everyone is a “journalist” and nothing is journalism.
Cant agree with you more. But when you can’t afford a BMW, volkswagen appears attractive enough.
Hello FitM,
Regarding: “For comparison, China in 3 years produced more cement (infrastructure) than the US since its inception to the present day!”-f.
We might need to be v-e-r-y careful about slathering on praise for incredible powers of economic production coming out of China these days. There’s far too much evidence that all this cement is going into ghost towns, factories and cities.
Consider the simple fact that $4.5T had left China for good in via children and relatives of Central Committee members since Y2K. They’re leaving for a reason… The Fix is In my friend. Beware.
Well, I presume your data is coming from extremely objective and trustworthy American press that have no interest in putting down the main economic rival.
If American public is still paying any mind to what the American press is saying – maybe because there is nothing else except hysterical “alternative media”, the World has lost any illusions after the “Arab spring”.
Two more cops shot in NYC!
Maybe its on.
Al Sharpton is Generalisimo of the opposing camp, an American Che Guevara, the Black Guerrila Commander. Mayor Di9blassio is 2nd in Command.
brh
You’ll excuse me for pointing out that ‘incident’ was all about the [suspected — yeah, right] armed robbers defending themselves from being apprehended by the long arm of the law.
As that doesn’t happen to be a *race* thing, we might better ponder why the fear of death is steadily losing its’ sting. The harshness of the penalties for assaulting/killing LEOs are not proving the deterrent they once were.
“The harshness of the penalties for assaulting/killing LEOs are not proving the deterrent they once were.”-oz.
Well, if the penalty for *compliance* proves to be death more often than not, the gen-pop’s behavior changes and they up the ante – they perceive that they have nothing to lose.
This is the penalty for training your people to use force as a first and only resort. I’ve spent my life watching that backfire, over and over again.
This is basically what happens in a failed state. No amount of force at the tactical level sill correct strategic-level weakness… But just try and get that across to people at the top of a collapsing regime. They will not get it. If they did, they wouldn’t be at the helm of a collapsing and failing regime and state, now would they?
“Abyssus Abyssum Invocat”…
BRH,
Sorry, forgot to link to news article.
http://news.yahoo.com/two-york-city-police-officers-shot-wounded-042430640.html
I don’t know Oz.
Assaulting a police officer is still a pretty serious charge.
Judges seem to frown upon it.
brh
And they do what? Throw the book at the perp’ and send them to some hellish rapey-hole for the rest of lives – the kind of place that has been roundly condemned even by the barbaric standards of the US Supreme Court? Or sentence the perp’ to death anyhow?
So, that presents the perp’ with a choice of death or getting their front-teeth knocked out turned into a sex-slave for the most powerful gang-de-jour behind bars (when they’re not getting used to bribe guards)…
See, this is the problem with failed-states: they only have one setting on the use of force: maximum.
And *this* is how large numbers of young men decide that they might as well go kamikaze. Muslims aren’t the only folks that do this.
Concluding Observation:
The estimable Von Clausewitz had much that was good and useful to say about how force had to be used.
Too bad “nobody reads” anymore.
MD,
Thanks for taking my rumination to its’ logical (albeit, deadly) conclusion.
Call and response, call and response. Though the esteemed Turd Blossom himself (along with a cabal of neocon malefactors) created “new realities”, those realities were responded to with universally-acknowledged “old realities”.
“Waaaaaah, but it’s *different* this time!”
Oops, guess not….
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“A common culture did exist in America before the 1960s” Well, if you grew up in Rochester, NY and the white suburbs of NYC, sort of. The immigrants had all been assimilated and it looked like there was a common culture. But along the Mexican border – SoCal to Texas – not so much. Where the American Indians still lived, not so much. Where African-Americans were strong, not so much. So that statement is very myopic. America has always been in demographical flux. Enjoy it, the food is good.
This statement has merit.
Much great commentary.
I remember reading that mental illness sometimes vanishes when the ill individual is threatened. That is, the delusion disappears so the person can deal with the peril in front of them.
I think the something similar might apply to societies. Or societal dysfunction. “Societal” in the sense of widespread or commonly occurring messed up behavior. Like, for example, men that abandon wives and families.
Or sexual misconduct in its various forms. Like people that screw heedless of likely consequences, unmarried women that bear offspring that they have no hope in hell of supporting.
Or drug and alcohol abuse… the list is a long one.
Or financial crimes. That is to say the rampant criminality that we see on Wall Street currently condoned by “free market” ideology or academic theorizing.
Immediate peril, like the prospect of hanging, focuses the mind. Whether it’s a sick society that tolerates or even glorifies shitty behavior or badly behaving individuals, maybe there will be an awakening to the reality that much of what was tolerable in previous times is no longer.
Why? Because the costs are no longer bearable. The resources no longer exist. Nobody, (nor society as a whole) is willing to entertain bad actors. The societal delusion vanishes.
Nowadays we imprison criminals for decades. But consider the physical and financial resources. What if they no longer exist? What do you do? Maybe we cut to the chase: get caught stealing and get flogged. Or hanged. No endless appeals to higher courts. Convicted at 10 am, dispatched at 2 pm. Done. On to the next case.
What about people that fornicate or commit adultery? What if they refuse to support resulting offspring? What will we do with those people? What if we don’t have elaborate social welfare systems? What about bankers that concoct frauds?
In some countries, for certain acts, they behead or stone. Stops the behavior in question. For those individuals the behavior will never recur. Deterrence forever. May also serve as example to the others.
Right now we have cultural and legal and institutional impediments to harsh penalties for most crimes. I think that’s because we have had an abundance of resources. Judges, lawyers, prison guards, parole officers, social workers etc. We developed a complex legal and religious philosophy of human rights and compassion and rehabilitation. There was money for all this. What about the future? What if there isn’t the money?
Your essay brings to mind what I have heard about the Williamsburg colony in colonial America. Jail existed for one purpose: to hold the suspected criminal until trial. The outcome of the trial was one of the following: acquittal, a fine, death, or banishment outside the colony walls. The indigenous people knew full well why a person would be put outside the wall, so the prospects for a banished person were not very good. Note that long term imprisonment was not an outcome of a trial. The colony could not afford to lose the labor of both the prisoner and his keepers. The winter was the colony’s constant concern so concepts like rehabilitation of criminals were an untenable luxury.
That’s one good example of due process in a resource-constrained environment. Military legal processes – court martials, etc. – is another.
The UCMJ is designed to operate in extreme situations… But even in that case defendants are protected against forced confessions and self-incrimination (Article 31, reinforced by 30 & 32) and most offenses are similar to what you describe (death, ‘extra-training’, fine and banishment). Proportionally few people wind up staying in military correctional custody long-term.
On the other hand, the American prison complex arises from something other than interest in the ‘greater good’;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/01/06/the-u-s-has-more-jails-than-colleges-heres-a-map-of-where-those-prisoners-live/
Remember what happened in Flint MI? Five years after the closures half of the population was occupied guarding the other half.
It’s all about *priorities*, you see!
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EDIT: “most offenses are similar to what you describe” should read: “most offenses are dealt with in a way similar to what you describe”.
“Why? Because the costs are no longer bearable. The resources no longer exist. Nobody, (nor society as a whole) is willing to entertain bad actors. The societal delusion vanishes.”-v.
Cultures change through a process of trauma and ‘seizure’… Joseph Campbell discusses this eloquently and at length. Outside of that process there are only lies, subterfuge and failure. You can’t legislate substantive cultural change, only cosmetic alterations.
Blacks and whites correctly perceive that a “common culture” equals continuation of Empire and a continuation of the power structure which uses them, abuses them, enslaves them, lies to them, mass murders them, and poisons them in all manner of poisons — physical and spiritual.
The best thing for all the populations of the US Empire is to secede. Withdraw all consent and all participation in all the institutions of the gov mafia — a gov mafia that is a direct subsidiary of the Vatican mafia.
a gov mafia that is a direct subsidiary of the Vatican mafia. – Mika
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OMG, here we go AGAIN!! I stepped in some dog shit today and whose fault was it? …………………… the Vatican mafia.
I put it there. Surely you didn’t think you could get along forever running down St Joe’s and Sister Hagatha? Sister Haggie made me promise to “fix that popinjay” and that’s what I intend to do. Watch out Jack! When you least expect it, expect it.
LOL!
Nice one… 😉
SEE THE PERIOD AT THE END OF THE NAME?
YOU STICKLER FOR FINE POINTS.
it is ‘mika.’ not ‘mika’.
Good catch Malthus.
MALTHUSS
double ‘s’. There is a ‘Malthus’ who posts here. He stole my name.
While it’s true that Marcus Garvey and WEB Dubois were both black separatists, there is a key difference between the two on how to achieve the end goal of a separate black nation. Garvey believed, like Booker T Washington, that the best way to help blacks was to encourage entrepreneurship, hard work and clean living in the black community while Dubois, being the good Marxist, believed that government ought to seize the assets of the white capitalists and redistribute wealth by force if necessary. Not surprisingly, Garvey’s calls for black self-reliance and his willingness to enter into dialogue with white segregationists got him into trouble with much of the black intelligentsia, who became enthralled with Dubois’ radical ideas of income redistribution and social engineering on a global scale.
Aren’t you forgetting about Mr. Garvey’s ‘Back to Africa’ movement/project?
Jim, please stop mis-educating your audience about black history in your lifetime or what blacks think now. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
The majority of whites who flock here are racist to the bone and use your blog to spread their fears, hate, genocidal wishes, ideas on IQ, and/or naive ignorance, and I’ll bet they laugh behind your back because you’re Jewish.
Here you are, from one of their least favorite groups, disparaging another. If all minorities disappeared overnight and only whites and Jews were left, many of the readers you’ve been pandering to in the past year would come after your group. Hang around StormFront and you might even see some of your readers. Over there you find the Holocaust deniers, over here you find the racism deniers, with you feeding them. It’s like you’ve conquered shame.
And I can’t believe you also had the nerve and stupidity to put the phrase, civil rights, in quotes, as though it was didn’t help a great many of them, along with women, gays, and the handicapped.
So, you like to write about the need for improved transportation. I’ll use that as a metaphor. Every time you write one of these speculative, inaccurate, covertly hostile articles on race, you sledge-hammer the bridges and railroad tracks that can transport us all to a better life for us all. Just stop it.
Phew, you really took Jim to school with that post!
i wouldn’t be surprised if he shut this whole site down
out of an overwhelming sense of ‘white guilt’
brh
that can transport us [all] to a better life for us [all]. – Civil
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I want to know why the fuck there is an epidemic here at CFN of commenters using the same word twice, one of which is superfluous. Is it an emphasis thing? Like, if Civility had only said “all” once we might somehow think he really meant “some.” For Christ’s sake, all means ALL. There is no more than ALL.
As to the content of your post, I can only guess that Jim is as disgusted with the culture of black America as many of us here and would like to know how many centuries it will take for blacks to assimilate, if ever. I am old enough to detect that black self-segregation is more prominent now than it was 50 years ago.
Civ — you just haven’t been punched in the mouth yet.
Hi Mr. Kunstler,
I am from Sri Lanka interested in your kinds of subjects.
What is your opinion on “Thorium Nuclear Energy”??
Advocates say that it is next “oil”.
They say it is safe and abundant and can give energy for the next 100s or 1000s of years.
So, won’t that solve the energy problems then????
When reading articles by Michael Snyder – “11 Predictions Of Economic Disaster In 2015 From Top Experts All Over The Globe” – I more and more come to a firm conclusion that American Economy will be saved by adult diapers industry.
To me, is much better to have crash already occurred and start working on rebuilding, than to live in constant fear and expectation of the worst.
I more and more come to a firm conclusion that American Economy will be saved by adult diapers industry. – Finca
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That’s funny. Did you think it up or did you read it somewhere else?
BTW, when you write “To me, is much better to have crash already occurred” I can hear the words with a Russian accent.
I more and more come to a firm conclusion that American Economy will be saved by adult diapers industry.
No kidding. Americans are a stupid lot, aren’t they? Russians are much more intelligent. Russians spend the majority of their adult lives pickling themselves with vodka thus precluding the burden of old age and all its accompanying embarrassments like diapers. Also, the pickling precludes poisoning the groundwater with toxic formaldehyde and instead permeating it with vodka so even on the rare occasions they choose water over vodka they stiill get a nip. Russians embalm themselves in slow-motion with vodka throughout their shortened, miserable lives — but hey, at least they avoid diapers although Lord only knows how many times they’ve pissed themselves after a drunken binge. Even if some Russians live past age seventy, a rarity, they’re too proud to wear diapers, instead opting to relieve themselves uncontrollably in their pants/underwear — the old-fashioned way. You have to love the crazy Russians. No new-fangled diapers for those folks — nosireebob. They’re tough as nails, them Russians.
They’re tough as nails, [them] Russians. – Cold
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I’m not surprised you don’t know, it typical for Libertarians. You folks will have deep insights about certain things and know absolutely nothing about other things.
So true. For example, I know you are a fascist White Nationalist, but I didn’t have a clue I was a Libertarian until you told me so. Unlike Libertarians, fascist White Nationalists like yourself have deep insight into everything — not just some things. I feel for you — it has to be difficult trying to fit yourself into a world where even the most intelligent people only know half of what you know. How do you cope? Thank God for blogs and their comment sections — without them you’d be institutionalized for your vast knowledge.
“Russians spend the majority of their adult lives pickling themselves with vodka” — Cold N. Holefield
Rumors about drunken Russians are slightly exaggerated.
According to WHO statistics (World Health Organization) Russians consumes only 11.5 recorded liters of pure alcohol per year. According to same statistics, French consumes 11.8 liters per year, Irish – 11.4, Finns – 10, English – 10, Americans – 8.7 (those are more marijuana and cocaine types)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption
Russians consumes [only] 11.5 recorded liters of pure alcohol per year. – Finca
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hahaha……ONLY, he says.
Since Finca has T’d this one up for me I must re-tell a little anecdote that my wife and I still chuckle over. We have a cleaning lady who hails from western Ukraine. She speaks very broken English but it’s getting better every week. When the troubles began in Ukraine nearly a year ago I engaged her in conversation to see what she thought of it all. She saw a great cultural divide between the western and eastern halves of the country which she summed up as:
“Vee like vork……..dey like drrrink!
Q, do you get an occasional blow job from her for lill’ extra?
No, not really. And I don’t like your implying that there is something contemptible in my hiring an immigrant to perform a labor task. There is nothing contemptible either from my perspective or hers. She has a considerable clientele and does quite well. Last year her daughter graduated from Rutgers.
In Paris on New Years Eve Muslim ‘Youths’ torched 970 automobiles. It must’ve been a helluva scene, that many cars burning all at once. It hardly made the news here, another case of ‘self censorship’ perhaps.
Maybe the wise thing to do, too, considering events at the satirical magazine in Paris this morning, 11 shot dead, presumably for printing some not too flattering cartoons about ‘The Prophet’. Is there a 1st amendment in France? Well, who gives a sh#t about a 1st amendment anyway — just words on a paper — if you can get machine gunned by any offended group (mostly the Muslim Group). Kind of puts a kabash on free speech, don’t you think. Free speech probably means different things in different places IMO. Here in the US it seems to mean loudmouths at elite colleges using the campus to espouse leftist causes and condemn western civilization. That’s as far as free speech goes because any countervailing opinions are quickly suppressed, like what happened at Brandies a few weeks ago. In Europe free speech means hammering Christianity, promoting atheism, stamping out any shred of patriotism or nationalism, promoting ‘diversity’, kissing up to Islam, and converting various Churches into Mosques, which is happening on a grand scale.
–brh
Sadly ironic, that on the day intolerant Muslims in France go on a murderous rampage, “Civility’ castigates JHK for writing about the perils of non-assimilation.
what happened at Brandies
Brandeis U.
Buck I’ve seen that mag that was attacked in Paris described as ‘radical left wing’ but it seems more like an irreverant rag that takes on anybody and everything, like Larry Krassner or Mad Magazine back in the 1960s.
Krassner is still alive incidentally, living in Brooklyn. That guy was a genius.
brh
oops sorry, Paul Krassner.
I was thinking of one of the other Merry Pranksters
I have always wondered why there isn’t more outrage from the rest of the Muslim communities when these attacks are launched against other people in the name of their religion. Where are the marchers expressing their outrage against the people who commit these crimes in the name of the Muslim communities? After 9-11, the silence was deafening. Are they afraid of their own people?
Where I was going with this line of thought is that the social illness, in the form of whatever bad conduct you care to talk about, goes away not only because of judicial penalties.
Take the commonly talked about problem of out-of-wedlock birth and child raising. You don’t need academic studies to tell you that outcomes for the children are generally disastrous. These families may be able to carry on day-to-day. They do it with government/taxpayer provided financial supports. And sometimes charities lend a hand.
But “heroic” single mothers cannot control their teenage sons. They cannot. How many times have you seen situations where the sons of single moms, in their hormone years, crash and burn. I’ve seen it. You have too. They do not listen to their mothers. Mothers may try to set boundaries and rules. And then the boys do what they want.
The mothers try to insist their mis-firing sons are actually “good” boys notwithstanding consistent records of academic failure, truancy, school suspensions, police arrests etc. And then they end up in jail or dead in an alleyway or a city park from a bullet wound. You know the drill.
How many times have you seen daughters of single moms self-destruct? Aside from drug and alcohol abuse it’s hard to think of a more self-harming act than bearing a kid before you finish school or get married. The girls do it anyway.
Society, configured as it is now, accepts a lot of this messed up behavior. Acceptance marks someone as intellectually sophisticated and educated, open-minded, non-judgmental. All good things. LIBERAL.
There’s a plethora of excuses for behavioral shittiness trotted out which I won’t bother to list. You would know them. And there’s jobs for a huge academic and bureaucratic apparatus to deal with it. It feeds a lot of people IOW.
But sooner or later, probably sooner, none of these excuses will matter. Society (and I don’t give a fuck what Mrs. Thatcher says, there IS such a thing) won’t have any more of it. It won’t be “OK” (in the parlance of the excuse-making set) to bear kids out of wed-lock, it won’t be “OK” to be a pregnant teen-age mom. And it won’t be “OK” to screw chicks without marrying them.
I know, I know, this is retrograde, prehistoric thinking. But consider the burden such conduct puts on everyone else. I would submit that the time for this is running out.
What would society do? The feds are bankrupt in all but name. Cities and states likewise. What they would do is stop cutting checks. I would submit that, without the prospect of social welfare assistance to support and care for the little ones, women young and old will keep their legs together. No huggee, no kissee without the wedding ring. No paycheck? Hit the road Jack.
Commonly held attitudes change. For generations we’ve laughed at the up-tight, purse lipped, frowning Victorians that couldn’t countenance bare table legs for fear that people would get crazy with lust. We may not go back to that. We may not stone people the way that certain old-world societies do.
But people will come to realize that they will have to bear the consequences for their acts and that they won’t be able to foist the expense on others. That is, no government checks will be coming. Suffering and watching your kids suffer is a powerful dissuader.
Ostracism is a potent dissuader too. The Bad Girl won’t be accepted. She’ll be booted out of the house. Being relegated to the margins of society is shitty.
And fathers (yeah, I’m thinking they’ll come back in style) will get out the shot-gun. You touch my little girl? To the wedding chapel. Or else. You want to go on a date? Sure no problem. But Mom or Dad or a trusted adult relative will be along as a chaperone. Don’t like it? Tough, the kid doesn’t call the shots. Mom does. And Dad too, maybe literally, with a fire-arm. Amorous young men better learn to dodge buck-shot.
In short, from a lack of money, from generally badly behaving people, society will be in peril. And society, like the mentally ill and delusional person that finds himself under imminent threat, will snap out of its delusions to deal with the peril.
Many of these “heroic” single mothers planned to get pregnant and go on welfare. What else are they going to do? But society tries to put the onus on the hapless young sperm donor.
“How many times have you seen daughters of single moms self-destruct? Aside from drug and alcohol abuse it’s hard to think of a more self-harming act than bearing a kid before you finish school or get married. The girls do it anyway.
Society, configured as it is now, accepts a lot of this messed up behavior. Acceptance marks someone as intellectually sophisticated and educated, open-minded, non-judgmental. All good things. LIBERAL.”-v.
The root-causal factor isn’t ideology or the supposed soft-heartedness of ‘Women’ and ‘Liberals’, it’s simply a symptom of a collapsed job market.
As prospects crumbled there were fewer men in a position to even think about starting and supporting a family, and those that are foolish enough to try end up running away – out of shame as much as financial inadequacy – more often than not. Some got themselves together and others adapted by taking on the housework if they couldn’t ‘bread-win’ – thus the rise of ‘house-husbands’.
Volodya, you are capable of making data-based determinations: Wages in real terms peaked in the early 1970’s in the US, as they fell dual-income and single-parent homes rose.
You must be in a very maudlin and pensively ‘poetical’ mood, I am thinking…
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Capt Spaulding, maybe there’s not a lot of outrage. Consider how patriotic Americans rally round the flag in times of conflict, how many never questioned Dubya and his boys about the wisdom and practicality of invading Iraq. Or Afghanistan for that matter. Or whether WMDs actually existed.
Consider how many patriotic Americans support the troops, how many chests swell with pride when good, red-blooded American boys march into foreign capitols as conquerors, you know, showing them carpet riders what’s what.
Consider then the possible views of the Muslim world. Maybe Muslims, like Americans, “support the troops”, in their case plain-clothes troops that make no apology for killing non-combatants, but, in the Muslim view, “troops” nonetheless, soldiers for Allah.
Consider that maybe the guys that killed all those people in Paris weren’t, in the view of some or maybe even a lot of Muslims, bad guys. Maybe they’re seen as GOOD guys, people doing a good thing in killing those that offend Allah and the good and pious brothers and sisters of Islam. Maybe a lot of Muslims are doing fist-pumps and high fives. Maybe a good number of Muslims are fed up to the gills with the sneering and insults. I’ll bet that a lot of Muslims were cheering their heads off when the twin towers came down. You know, score a big one for the good guys. In their view at least.
How many Japanese tourists at Pearl Harbor go to the USS Arizona memorial and have a gloat fest? More than a few I’ll bet.
“Commonly held attitudes change. For generations we’ve laughed at the up-tight, purse lipped, frowning Victorians that couldn’t countenance bare table legs for fear that people would get crazy with lust.”
Yes, I agree….we need more of those old -fashioned type females:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOtNBUBSukY
Faye Dunaway was pretty sweet (back in the day)
She was hot in _Bonnie in Clyde_ and _Chinatown_ as well… Those eyes!
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Bless You for that Buck’… 😉 Loved that book and movie!
These Islamists just don’t appreciate good satire.
I doubt Japanese tourists gloat at Pearl Harbor. The Japanese I’ve known are pretty humble. The attack on Pearl was the stupidest thing Japan ever did.
We know for a fact that many in the Muslim World cheered when the Twin Towers came down. We have the video.
brh
Jihad against the infidels is one of the duties of Islam. Attacks like this will come here when they reach a higher percentage of the population. We already have Blacks joining (or at least proclaiming Islam) and running amok against Whites. Arabs will attack in a more coordinated way and at a larger scale.
The real mystery is why we keep bringing them in. That’s the real question. And the answer is as dark as anything in Islam.
If that’s true, it’s gonna be hard to have any sympathy for the people who feel that way. I remember feeling bad for the residents of Kosovo when they were being mortared by the Serbs, but in the light of what is being done in the name of Islam, it’s getting harder to whip up any sympathy for the Muslims. I understand that it’s wrong to stereotype everyone because of the actions of a few, but there really doesn’t seem to be much of a reaction on the part of most Muslims to the incidents being propagated around the world in their name. If I really believed that the majority of Japanese felt that way about Pearl Harbor, I would say “Hey, remember Hiroshima & Nagasaki? Sorry about that”.
To Buck Stud:
Have you seen the movie, Mr. Turner? What do you think of Mike Leigh’s treatment of John Ruskin? Did you ever think John Ruskin would make it to a Hollywood big screen movie?
Have you seen the movie, Mr. Turner? – Krug
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Krug, did you forget that you are replying to Buck Stud, not Mr. Turner?
Oh, wait a minute. I see. You meant ‘Have you seen the movie [titled] Mr. Turner?’
pkrugman:
I heard about about the movie but have not seen it yet. And I have read that Ruskin had some sexual hangups but that’s just side show diversion IMO. It reminds me of the person who upon first glance at Michelangelo’s “David” utters, “I heard he was gay”!? BTW, Ruskin revered and championed Turner.
It actually takes some concentration and a sympathetic ‘reading’ to garner an aesthetic experience IMO. Of course most don’t want to delve too deep or concentrate too hard or soar above their own biases and preconceptions hence the quick fix of easy gossip and gutter-snipe speculation. Ruskin might have been an odd bird but what a thinker, what a writer, what an art lover!
But there will always be those types who just won’t appreciate because of the beam in thy eye and the sound of their own hate in the ear. For instance, the Jew hater who cringes at the incredible voice of a Barbra Streisand
I think she’s very talented and has a great voice. Everyone admits she is a vile person though. California was doing an environmental study of the coast by plane. She owns like a mile of this kind of prime real estate. She saw or heard the plane, got on the phone and starting raising hell. They told her it was an environmental study and she wasn’t getting picked on or spied on. She didn’t care. She wanted an exemption. In short, she is the ultimate JAP.
I wonder if you’re able to fully enjoy her talents even though you consider her a “vile person”?
I can’t tell you how many people I heard state that they will never watch another Woody Allen movie/production based upon his issues. Which really isn’t logical in my estimation. For instance, how absurd would it be to perform an advance background check before choosing to enjoy their particular human gift? And if someone provided a unique human pleasure to you in the past and then you learn something bad in the aftermath about this person, does it diminish the original experience?
For some it might–perhaps most people– that’s why ‘aesthetes’, as much as possible anyway, deliberately quarantine certain aspects of a personality from the aesthetic experience. In other words, there is far more to lose by engaging in ‘dirty laundry’ voyeurism that there is to be gained. Of course art historians do the opposite; they believe that personal idiosyncrasies ‘explain the work’. (And that’s probably true for so many post-modern publicity seeking degenerates.)
Rajneesh is a good example for me personally. His Oregon thing went off the rails by most accounts but I still find his books/lectures to be some of the best. We humans need to separate the wheat from the chaff for the good of our own souls. Otherwise we spend to much time and money in the tabloid checkout lane.
“I can’t tell you how many people I heard state that they will never watch another Woody Allen movie/production based upon his issues. Which really isn’t logical in my estimation.”-rugs.
So, by that rationale you must have a deep and abiding respect for the films of Roman Polanski.
I understand your point and I have some ability to separate the person and their work. I appreciate that kind of music but don’t really listen to it much. On the other hand, I certainly loathe most Hollywood actors but enjoy their work on a regular basis.
In short, she is the ultimate JAP. – Janos
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And besides that everyone admits she has bad breath.
Have you thrown in the towel in terms of correcting my posts? And just when I was going to respond: Write on cue, Q!
Really? Tell us more.
“the incredible voice of a Barbra Streisand”-rugs.
W-t-H?
“Three thousand years of beautiful tradition from Moses to Sandy Koufax”… OK, sure, fine.
But __Streisand__?
Are you an impersonator?
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Just checking!
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You’re a musical snob evidently – too cool for school. Aren’t you getting a little old for that pose? You’re a middle aged man – start acting like it.
Schmaltzy tunes sung shrilly are as odious to me as hip-hop/rap at this point. It’s simply a matter of hygiene. Snobbery has nothing to do with it.
Janos, you consistently miss the point. It’s as if reality is target moving far too quick for you. Please focus.
I’m here to help.
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“Moses to Sandy Koufax”
LOL that’s a good one. I once talked to an old timer who sat behind home plate during a Koufax start and he said Koufax’s fastball looked like a blurry white pill that darted all over the place.
As far as Streisand I was watching “A Star Is Born” a while back ago and the song at the end of the movie–“One More Look At You” I believe–was incredibly beautiful to my ears…just the sheer range and emotional inflection. But just MO 🙂
Jim made a reasoned analysis of why the civil rights movement failed this week.
My feeling is, the civil rights movement was probably doomed to failure right from the get go. The 1960’s were full of idealism, a fair amount which was half baked in the first place. Western civilization is not something that can be passed around or sold like cars or tacos or beer, it is a set of shared experiences. Europe is seeing plenty of examples of this, immigrants who don’t understand western civilization in the first place or are openly hostile to it have been allowed to show up in mass. There was a shooting in Paris today, which relates to this.
Western civilization has it’s roots in the Renaissance and the enlightenment, the French Revolution and the struggle of ordinary English citizens against the nobility, interest in the old Roman Republic. It isn’t something that can just be handed to everybody. Until the 1960’s most of the immigrants to the United States were at least nominally Christian, and or European, or at least part of what came to be Judeo Christian thinking. They had an idea of how democracy was supposed to work and were not hostile to it. This is not the case anymore. This country has brought Mexicans in here and Muslims who despise the United States and it’s people.
American blacks are another example of this, they, by and large don’t understand this country and many of them didn’t like it in the 1960’s and don’t like it any better now.
Segregation was the best way to handle this.
To put it simply, you can’t give people rights and privileges that they don’t understand and can’t appreciate.
I find this comment interesting; in that 2/3rds of it is completely absurd…
Cheers!
So don’t just hit and run, talk, contribute, explain, use this space for what it is meant for. Don’t be a coward or a snark meister.
Some of us know how to prioritize. If the man is interested in a detailed critique, he will request one.
Jim made a reasoned analysis of why the civil rights movement failed this week. – Carl
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How am I supposed to deal with the content contained in a post when I am assaulted and distracted right out of the box with a sentence like the one above.
When the writer of such a sentence re-reads what he has written (hopefully, BEFORE clicking Submit) doesn’t he say to himself “wait a minute, the civil rights movement didn’t fail [this week] it has been failing for the past 50 years.”
Suggested re-write:
Jim made a reasoned analysis this week of why the civil rights movement failed.
A certain group constitutes 13% of the legal U.S. population, but commits 60% of the murders. Common sense would dictate that you stay as far away this group as you can afford. Guess which group it is? Hint: it’s not asians. Another hint: it’s not eskimos.
Actually it is NOT 12% but a certain element w/i 2% of the population.
Blacks are about 13%.
Young B males are about 2% of USA total population.
And from within that 2% are most of the killers.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/deadly-shooting-reported-french-satirical-newspaper-office/story?id=28050771
JIHAD
Killers shouted ‘alla hu akbar’.
Breaking News about who was responsible for shooting Charlie Hebdo.
Arm’s Length
double ‘s’. – Malth
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I was wondering how long it would take you to notice. I tossed out the bait and you took it.
You wily coyote.
Capt. Spaulding, a quick Google search MUSLIM CONDEMNATION OF yields hundreds of Muslim organizations issuing statements condemning the attack on 9/11, condemning terrorism in general, condemning violence, condemning ISIL, etc.
Islam is a religion of peace. It is not right to condemn an entire religion because of the actions of a few who engage in violence. This week there was a terrorist attack in Colorado against an office of NAACP. If the attackers turn out to be white and Christian, it would not be correct to condemn all whites or all Christians because of the actions of a few.
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/commonwordcommonlord/2014/08/think-muslims-havent-condemned-isis-think-again.html
The jihad of which Janos speaks is the lesser jihad, not the greater jihad.
http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/submitted/heit/whatisjihad.html
The lesser Jihad has come to dominate over the greater. In popular Muslim parlance, Jihad now means war against the Infidels. The more intelligent see that war as one of many levels – and preach a peaceful takeover of Europe as the best way. That’s not pacifism, it’s tactics. MLK’s pacifism was tactical as well. If they could have reached their objectives quickly through armed conflict, they would have chosen that route.
This is a great day for Europe – it will awaken even more to the terrible threat the Jihad poses. The German Movement will explode even more.
Regarding the terrorist act in Paris
First, let’s recall that the satirical newspaper “Charlie Hebdo” falls into the scandals regularly. In fact, these scandals are exactly the reason it keeps going financially. The most glaring example – is the publication of cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad, for which their office had been already blown up a couple of years ago. Hence it might give the impression that “Charlie Hebdo” is some sort of special anti-Muslim newspaper. But not so. On its pages the Christian and Muslim, Jewish and other religions are equally ridiculed.
Or rather – not “ridiculed”, but offended. If the cover is regularly published gay-pornographic caricature of the Holy Trinity, than the inscription “Quran is shit”, it is not quite like regular satire. This is what a trash-film industry calls “exploitation genre”. Just some operate on “naked women in BDSM prison,” and other “let’s get together and offend something holly as much as possible and rejoice that there will be no consequences.”
Another false impression that one can develop, that “Charlie Hebdo” in France is a precious and revered symbol of freedom of speech, according to Mr. Hollande. On the contrary, the French hate that newspaper that only confirms the unique talent of trash edition of shit in the souls of everyone, regardless of political and religious preferences.
Russians have a hard time with satire so we’ll give you a pass, Finca. So too do many Germans. It’s tough to laugh and get laughs around literalists like the aforementioned. They simply don’t get nuance and subtlety.
Russians do not get “nuance and subtlety” of gay-pornography depiction of Holy Trinity, Anglo Saxons do not get “nuance and subtlety” of Russians objecting their habit of rummaging in other people pockets.
It’s a good thing I’m not Anglo Saxon, otherwise I’d say you are trying to insult me. I’m a man without a country and a culture. I’m in limbo. I like limbo — but not Limbaugh.
The cover of Charlie Hebdo showing an ISIS zealot chopping off Muhammad’s head was priceless. I know, you don’t get it, but some of us do and we don’t want you inebriated puritanical Russian expats spoiling our intellectual entertainment. Go find another Rasputin or something.
The Jew is standing up for the Trinity. It’s too rich. Yet he said nothing against Pussy Riot. His co-ethnics perhaps?
“Now they we have stopped attacking them, they are attacking us. Since it’s going to be one way or the other, which do you prefer?” — Janos
But, Janos, you have not stopped white terrorist violence, as evidenced by the bombing of the NAACP office in Colorado Springs this week. Is that the kind of thing you think whites should be doing? Taking the war to them? Do you support violent attacks against nonviolent Black organizations like the NAACP?
No. Whites don’t need to attack the NAACP. That’s going to one of the ruling councils in the new Black Nation. We need to form a NAAWP for the same reason. As Gore said, Out of one, many.
I completely support your initiative to vote for another Non-American for President. It will hasten the process of manying. We are comrades in chaos. How did the song put it? “Many a tear has to fall, but it’s all, in the game.”
Each tear is a new nation, a tear in the very fabric of the American Nation. I have every confidence and hope that this will be a mostly peaceful process, much like the dissolution of the Soviet Union. That revisionists like Finc are trying to reconstitute the Evil Empire is to be lamented. As the old Chinese poem (that Chairman Mao loved so much!) put it, “Let a thousand flowers bloom.”
Anglo Saxons are mad at Russia not for Ukraine, but for simple fact that they can’t threaten China to cut off its energy supplies using prevailing American fleet. So, they attack weakest link in China-Russian tandem.
As I said before, Russia is a land power. You will succeed if you stay one.
I just saw the video of the shooting at the NYT. They weren’t Arabs — they were Russians despite the Allahu Akbar catch phrase. Chechens, I’d say. Arabs don’t move like that. The body language says Caucasus.
Is Jeb Bush a “Gringo” or a “Beaner”? What does “Gringo” mean?
Jeb was adopted. He’s John Candy’s brother. The Candy family put Jeb up for adoption because they didn’t have the money to feed such big boys, and the Bushes snatched him up. Jeb looks just like John.
“Jeb was adopted. He’s John Candy’s brother.”-cold.
I wish that were true. Funniest thing you’ve written, b t w.
I miss John… He was one of the greats.
Muslim leaders and activists immediately denounced the terrorists actions, reiterating the verse in the Quran that tells Muslims when one kills just one innocent person, it is as if he has killed all of humanity.
The Grand Mosque of Paris, one of the largest in France, issued a statement on its website shortly after the attacks, saying its community was “shocked” and “horrified” by the violence.
We strongly condemn these kind of acts and we expect the authorities to take the most appropriate measures. Our community is stunned by what just happened. It’s a whole section of our democracy that is seriously affected. This is a deafening declaration of war. Times have changed, and we are now entering a new era of confrontation.
The Union of Islamic Organizations of France also responded on its website, writing: “The UOIF condemns in the strongest terms this criminal attack, and these horrible murders. The UOIF expresses its deepest condolences to the families and all the employees of Charlie Weekly.”
Hassen Chalghoumi, imam of the Drancy mosque in Paris’s Seine-Saint-Denis suburb, spoke with France’s BFM TV and condemned the attackers, saying, “Their barbarism has nothing to do with Islam.”
“I am extremely angry,” Chalghoumi said. “These are criminals, barbarians. They have sold their soul to hell. This is not freedom. This is not Islam and I hope the French will come out united at the end of this.”
Countless Muslim activists, leaders and authors took to social media Wednesday to express horror and dismay at the attack.
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Muslims are not our enemies. People of whatever religion who use violence are equally culpable. Most Muslims condemn violence.
“Jeb was adopted.” — Cold
Yes, but where was he born? Jeb Bush described the motivation of those who cross our borders as an “act of love” and I agree. However, we don’t know where Jeb was born. He has never shown his birth certificate (the long form), so we don’t know what country he was really born in. I understand he does have a Mexican wife, so that is a clue. If he was born in Mexico I would vote for him. Sooner or later we should have a native born Mexican as president. Might as well be sooner. And Jeb has already demonstrated he has a good heart… in describing those who cross our borders as acting out of love. I agree. Run, Jeb, run.
If he was born in Mexico I would vote for him.
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So much for Elizabeth Warren.
“So much for Elizabeth Warren.” — Q.
My support for Jeb Bush is conditioned on him being a Mexican native. If Jeb produces his birth certificate (long form) and it turns out he was born in the USA, then I will re-evaluate.
Has anyone actually made an official announcement yet? Perhaps they are waiting for 2016 to arrive?
Perhaps ‘IQ pride’ is not such a good (or smart) thing after all:
http://www.brainpickings.org/2014/01/29/carol-dweck-mindset/
Jeb Bush looks a bit like a “Beaner”. Was Jeb’s Momma hump’n the Mexican gardener? California Governor Arnold Schwartzenigger got his Beaner cleaning lady knocker up.
“Don’t stop it, Stud!”
Your problem is that you can’t tell the difference between the Golden Hall of Meduseld and Slim Man’s mansion. Or to use a Buckism, between a Greek urn and a chamber pot.
But here’s a kenning for you: How will we get high once we are downloaded into robots?
At the G20 meeting in Brisbane, Putin had several scientists to test his food. It wouldn’t be difficult for them to surreptitiously knock off Putin. They probably have already given Putin cancer?
Australian waitress to Putin: “Would you like the can, sir?”
I accidentally backed into self-segregation, back in the day. In the mid-70’s, our high school had a club called “The Society Of Soul (SOS).” It was founded to promote an understanding of Black Culture. One week, in an interview published in the school newspaper, they complained about being ignored by White Culture. They invited non-Blacks to join them. So being an idealistic white male, I decided to join the SOS, and showed up for their meeting the following week.
When I came through the door, conversation stopped. When the SOS found out I intended to join, they did not know what to do. There was a discussion, and they ended up letting me join.
The next week, no one showed up at the assigned meeting room but me. The rest of the SOS had moved their meeting to someone’s home outside the school grounds without letting me know. Over the next few weeks, SOS members avoided me in the halls, between classes, so I got the message that my joining the SOS was not working so well.
Looking back on it, I can’t feel too bad about my SOS membership. They publicly invited Whites to join, and when I showed up, they DID let me join. If they ditched me after that, well we were all teenagers at the time. Teens should not be expected to reconcile contradictory feelings, beliefs and actions. Teens are working these things out, maybe not differently from the rest of us.
If I experienced discrimination from them, it was likely just a tiny bit compared to what they likely experienced day in and day out, inescapably, every day of their lives.
You’re a classic Liberal – always making excuses for Blacks. I’ve had a fair amount of personal contact with Blacks so let me give you a bit of what I’ve learned: they typically don’t go beyond what you saw. And they don’t agonize about bad feeling towards others. They don’t go to bat with themselves about racism. They just don’t. And they’ve turned countless schools, malls, and neighborhoods into a hell for our people. But you don’t care about THAT do you?
I understand your point and I have some ability to separate the person and their work. – Janos
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True. One doesn’t need to love Hitler to drive a VW down the Autobahn.
“The Jew is standing up for the Trinity. It’s too rich. Yet he said nothing against Pussy Riot. His co-ethnics perhaps?”
I am standing up for some absolute and untouchables values in our civilization, without which we cease to be one.
And what about the two-bit whores enjoying masturbating on a church pulpit that our American friends and partners love to pick the Russians with? Take them and have them perform in your churches.
No less a figure than Israel Shamir pointed out that Pussy Riot is Jewish funded.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/12/who-pulls-the-strings-of-femen-and-pussy-riot/
Money do not solve problems, people do
Newest U.S. Stealth Fighter ‘10 Years Behind’ Older Jets
America’s $400 billion, top-of-the-line aircraft can’t see the battlefield all that well. Which means it’s actually worse than its predecessors at fighting today’s wars.
When the Pentagon’s nearly $400 billion F-35 Joint Strike Fighter finally enters service next year after nearly two decades in development, it won’t be able to support troops on the ground the way older planes can today. Its sensors won’t be able to see the battlefield as well; and what video the F-35 does capture, it won’t be able to transmit to infantrymen in real time.
Versions of the new single-engine stealth fighter are set to replace almost every type of fighter in the U.S. Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps inventory — including aircraft specifically designed to support ground troops like the A-10 Warthog. That will leave troops in a lurch when the F-35 eventually becomes the only game in town.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/26/newest-u-s-stealth-fighter-10-years-behind-older-jets.html
Miracles of American GDP
Suppose the Chinese worker has made 10 pairs of sneakers that were sold to American trading company for $ 1 each. American trader brought them to the US and began selling for $ 20. For simplicity, assume that the duties and taxes are 0. Then:
– One pair went to a lawyer who has advised a trading company, received $ 20 for services rendered, and bought a pair of sneakers
– One pair went to the programmer who created the inventory management system, received $ 20 for services rendered, and bought a pair of sneakers
– One pair got consulting company, who led the processes of listing of Trading Company on the stock exchange, received $ 20 for services rendered, and bought a pair of sneakers
– One pair went to the masseur, who made massage to the owner of the trading company, received $ 20 for services rendered, and bought a pair of sneakers
– One pair went to the doctor who did medical check of CEO of the trading company, received $ 20 for services rendered, and bought a pair of sneakers
– One pair went to a plumber who fixed the trading company toilet, received $ 20 for services rendered, and bought a pair of sneakers
– Lawyer / doctor / therapist and programmer took a bank loan ($ 20 each) to buy another pair of shoes for their wives.
In addition:
– Trading company, with very good earnings, sold some of its shares to Saudi sheikh for $10 and used the proceeds to pay Chinese workers for sneakers
– Chinese workers gave $10 to Saudi sheikh for oil supplies; they needed to operate the machine that produces sneakers
Thus, the loop is closed. What do we see as a result?
China’s GDP grew by $10.
Saudi Arabia’s GDP grew by $10.
US GDP grew by 20 * 10 + 20 * 6 – 10 – 80 – 10 = $220.
Domestic consumer debt rose by US $80
US trade deficit in the external trade amounted to $10
There are still some same artists, directors, and comedians, who are able to critically address the current state of the race issues in the US. And it is a vision filled with blatant racism, stupidity, and inability to understand the American culture.
What happened yesterday in France is just another manifestation of the same issue. People blame Muslims, yet some of the killed in the attack were Muslims as well. Somehow, it seems easier to just include all Muslims (or blacks, or Asians) into one category, while continuing to justify white oppression and dominance over them.
What our leaders fail to see is a fact that Western civilizations share the very same problem at the core – its inability to include others into their conception of human and democratic rights.
And some killed on 9-11 were? You guessed it.
I found this via a link at Drudge.
Look at what Muslims have done to Europe.
Do a google search on “Muslim Rape Wave”, the results will amaze you.
Look at the Muslim population growth of Canada:
1961 1,000
1971 33,000
1981 98,000
1991 253,265
2001 579,640
2011 1,053,945
North America has enough Muslims, close the door now! •
The Muslims have a strategic plan to invade and take over non-Muslim countries systematically. Our government’s ‘plan’ is to stick their heads in the sand and pretend they are not accomplices to the invasion.
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Almost, but you make a great miss. Obviously the Government is all for the Muslim invasion. Why? To destroy the West. Why? The West must die so the Global State can emerge. How? By using Islam against the Wes and the West against Islam – everywhere, on both the macro and micro fronts. Islam will unite the dark races against Whites as it is already beginning to do.
I do not get FinCaln. I can not even pronounce the name.
Don’t bother. Just take some Chinese or Arabic language classes.
Mister Darling,
I agree with much of what you say. I think there is the element of causation with the collapse in the job market. And that is and was a powerful contributor to the collapse in the ages old sexual-marital bond.
The other might be the decline of the family farm. Around the turn of the Twentieth Century you needed both mom and dad to run the farm with the kids pitching in with various tasks. The mutual dependence sealed the deal. But, with mechanization of agriculture and massive industrialization, there was less need for farm labor and more for factory workers.
And so you might say that the sexual contract was being altered. Women could also work on the factory floor and therefore fend for themselves. A marital partnership with a man became less necessary. The economic basis for marriage was being eroded.
But I think there were cultural and attitudinal aspects to it also. From what I saw in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s era, there was a progressive denigration of certain behaviors by folk of my generation as being “square” or “uptight”. Some would say it started with the “beat” generation.
Some say that this sexual revolution really got underway in the war years of the 1940s. Either way, I think it really burst into public discussion in the 1960s. Boomers turned on their parents and accused them of hypocrisy wrt sex and started advocating the loosening of behavioral strictures. No more sleeping around behind closed doors. No more sneaky extra marital affairs. Now we’d supposedly do it in full public view.
Thinking back, I think that the sexual revolution got going before the trend to offshoring started to generally harm family finances and especially the prospects of young men. Having said that I would also say that the first to get hurt were the black underclass. Their jobs were the first to go.
In any case, it appears to me that the offshoring of work and the decline in economic prospects went hand in hand with loosening of behavioral standards. We can argue about which came first. No doubt everyone alive at the time sees it his own way. And, no doubt, there’s academic studies done during the era purporting to show this or that.
In any case, this past history, that is, how things got this messed up, will become irrelevant. There will be exigencies that will have to be dealt with, that will require behavioral changes.
The big question in my mind is this: what happens in the future when the govt checks stop coming? How will women see relations between the sexes then? Right now, for a large number of women, men seem to be a social and sexual accessory. Men cater to some of their emotional and maybe financial needs and, when they get tiresome, they get tossed.
But economic degradation seems to be in no hurry to stop. Men’s jobs went first. Black men’s jobs especially. Women’s jobs (ie administrative, financial) are next. If the work can be done from a terminal, it can be done from India. What then?
Maybe people will come to realize that the heedless screwing of the recent past will have no place in the future, that men and women will have to pool meager paychecks and resources no matter that they may not like or respect one another and even if it requires a re-balancing of the much reviled “patriarchal” authority.
We all know that men want sex no matter what. Given their druthers they’d like a stalwart, faithful, prairie wife to deal with the mind-numbing drudgery and details of day to day life. And at the same time they’d like pretty young chicks on the side to attend to their most base carnal desires. But life doesn’t generally work like this unless you’re an oriental potentate. The rest of us will have to find another way.
V.,
If you’ll excuse the impertinence of a non-addressee, I’d have to say that the organization of a society into patriarchal/matriarchal format is all dependent on “what you’d kill for”.
On the other side of collapse, who you’d wish to control/”husband” your resources will be that crucial factor that determines life or death. (…as your implying, deliberately or no.)
Please be advised that I’m not advocating one or the other; simply who has the plain sense to match need to available resources. (Existence before procreation; an important distinction.)
Thanks for bringing this into the mix. Sexual perception/imagining is a very powerful motivator/destroyer.
— you’re —
There you go Q.; yank it a couple more times and wool-gather on back into the good ol’ days when pupils actually had a practical reason to listen to their ‘educators’.
Hello V,
Thank you for your reply-at-length.
“In any case, it appears to me that the offshoring of work and the decline in economic prospects went hand in hand with loosening of behavioral standards. We can argue about which came first. No doubt everyone alive at the time sees it his own way. And, no doubt, there’s academic studies done during the era purporting to show this or that.”-v.
There’s an important reason why everyone “sees it his own way”: they have different views of causation.
The primary difference is that there are those who see that changes in behavior are based on _intangibles_ (folks that think that ‘loss of moral values’ &c. cause changes in the environment & behavior) and those that think that people change their behavior based on what they *can* do for _tangible_, very practical reasons (ie., those that see environment and resources are the primary underlying factor).
It’s important to delineate and clearly state the difference b/c there’s a difference in the results they produce. The ‘tangible comes first’ group can predict events from a strategic standpoint _proactively_ while the ‘intangible matters more’ tends to get stuck in various _reactive_ modes, forever explaining and blaming what’s already occurred on various and for all intents “magical” (in the Kunstlerian sense) factors.
Personally, I choose to be in the former/first camp.
“In any case, this past history, that is, how things got this messed up, will become irrelevant. There will be exigencies that will have to be dealt with, that will require behavioral changes.”-v.
Culture will change when it HAS to – it won’t be legislated. Whether it slips back into an older version of existing local cultures, or mutates into something unrecognizable will depend on the severity of the disruption that lies ahead.
“We all know that men want sex no matter what. Given their druthers they’d like a stalwart, faithful, prairie wife to deal with the mind-numbing drudgery and details of day to day life. And at the same time they’d like pretty young chicks on the side to attend to their most base carnal desires. But life doesn’t generally work like this unless you’re an oriental potentate. The rest of us will have to find another way.”-v.
I’ve recommended _Sex at Dawn_ to Pucker, and now I’d like to recommend it to you. The authors (a straight couple, btw – since this needs to be said on CFN) persuasively call into question a number of assumptions we have about monogamy – it’s origin, purpose, supposed ‘universality’, etc. – which you might find interesting, edifying and invigorating by turns. Best of all: it’s not written in a dry scholastic style, but it is well sourced. I found it useful for constructively reframing certain issues – without reducing my current monogamous commitment (again, this is CFN and needs to be explicitly said 😉 )
Cheers!
“The Muslims have a strategic plan to invade and take over non-Muslim countries systematically. Our government’s ‘plan’ is to stick their heads in the sand and pretend they are not accomplices to the invasion.” — malthuss
The assumption that people who actually run the Western Governments (whoever they are) do not have total control of Nation’s immigration policy is moronic, pardon my Russian.
So, would be more clever to assume that the current policy of letting illegal Mexicans and large amount of Muslim immigrants in is that it serves the purpose (or multiple purposes) of ruling elite.
One obvious thing that comes to mind, is to create a tension division lines in the society to “divide and conquer”, distract the people from the real thing – The Class War.
Don’t feel bad, you’re doing your part by defending the terrorists against Charlie Hebdo. The N.Y Times is too, Jewish owned of course.
“Don’t feel bad, you’re doing your part by defending the terrorists” – Janos
Under no circumstances I would condone or defend any terrorist action that destroys the governability of the society and the very fabric of our civilization.
Of course, that include any radical bomb-throwing group, Muslim or Nazi or whoever. But in my book it also includes those “creative journalists” who love to cry “Fire” in the crowded theater just to collect some loose change.
Yes, The Class War is all that remains to American people.
There is no need of using lame terms like “ninety-nine percenters vs 1 percenters”, or “banksters”, or anything else like that.
There are only two things that could calm down the Class War:
1. Equal application of the Rule Of Law regardless of social and financial status – that is DEAD in America, after not a single banker got prosecuted due to 2008 crisis – compare that to Savings And Loans crisis and Bill Blacks sending hundreds of high-flying bankers to federal penitentiaries.
2. Promise of upward social mobility – what Americans call an “American Dream” – is dead as well and instead we are getting millions of young people of new “Lost generation” burdened with astonishing amount of college debts, unable to find a job to pay it back – they even changed the law so the students cant even declare a bankruptcy.
Its Class War or mediocre existence under the influence of legalized (just in time, imagine that!) marijuana as a stepping stone to something harder and much quicker.
2. Promise of upward social mobility – what Americans call [an] “American Dream” – is dead …………. students cant even declare [a] bankruptcy. – Finca
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The expression is “[the] American Dream”
Eliminate the [a] before bankruptcy ……. students cant even declare bankruptcy.
Stick with me Finc and I’ll have you speaking like an American, born and bred.
I just wanted to post a link, which talks about something Jim has been discussing for years. There have been many, many stories like this in the news, of course. This is one of many.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/01/suburbs-and-the-new-american-poverty/384259/
But in my book it also includes those “creative journalists” who love to cry “Fire” in the crowded theater just to collect some loose change.
No, you’d rather criticize Americans and cry “fire” on an American blog site for free — or presumably for free. Maybe you get paid to do it — I don’t know, and I don’t really care either way.
In the case of Charlie Hebdo, there really was a “fire” as we’ve witnessed, and I wouldn’t say the folks there cried fire, but instead thumbed their nose at it.
Marinara Le Play Pen gets the last laugh. Her cache just increased significantly. What happened to Charlie Hebdo is her idea of satire.
Yeah she spoke out, but is strangely subdued. Perhaps because she has a Jewish lover and they don’t like all this? Don’t get me wrong: they want European Nationalism, but on their terms. Meaning that the Muslims not only stay but keep swarming in along with Black Africans. Only the “bad” Muslims go. And of course Europe continues to fight the Jihad – in the Middle East above all.
What they fear and hate above all else is a real Nationalism or Europe for the Europeans and only the Europeans. One this is understood, Fink is understood. He adores Russia so much that he wants the same thing for them.
http://www.dailystormer.com/le-pen-statement-on-the-paris-massacre/
“..and cry “fire” on an American blog” – Janos
Did I try to sell you some shiny gold coins with Putin on it? Or some AK47 to prepare to repel “Black Helicopters”? You have enough born and bred Americans to do that.
I know you have nothing against “European” Culture! Pale (less pale all the time) People dancing in funny clothes is fun! Jews love to dance too and will learn “European” folk dances. Soon the only pales will be the Jews. And they will proudly proclaim themselves to be French, English, German etc.
No worries, CNFers!
Angela Merkel, Howard Dean, and everybody on MSNBC says the mass murder in Paris had nothing to do with Muslims or Islam. These were just a few crazy guys, ‘lone wolfs’, with automatic weapons, an RPG, and a grudge. Just your common criminals. And the police woman shot down today on the side of the road by someone dressed in black head to toe and carrying a kalishnikov, mere common, run of the mill street crime.
Still, we have to be on guard.
Against further attacks? Hell no! We need to be on guard against racism and a backlash directed toward our ‘neighbors’, in the ‘Muslim Community’!
That would be a real crime. Because it was 4 star Army General Martin Dempsey who stated after Major Hassan gunned down 9 soldiers in Texas, “The real casualty is our diversity”.
That’s the way it is now. I sh#t you not CFNers.
–brh
1. ‘wolves’
2. I believe the quote was more ‘The real casualty COULD be die versity’.
3.http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2015/01/08/usa-today-features-radical-clerics-op-ed-france-provoked-muslims?
ITS THE FAULT OF LE CHRISTIANS.
…And thus did Chucky (the Fearfilled) Schumer instantly indicate that some new ‘legislation’ should be passed and enforced to make some extry-special new punishments for this lone-wolf-ed-ness. (In return, *I* shit you not!)
More Clusterfuck calls for more force and restriction, right? How’s that workin’ for ya so far?
Sorry, but I’m spitting on the ground more and more often these days, and I think it’s because I see what it’s “really about” not what I’d wish/hope it to be.
Got total security? Then you ain’t livin’ in any form of a real world…
“Got total security? Then you ain’t livin’ in any form of a real world…”
Total truth… even a Steve Jobs learns that lesson eventually. Or as the song goes:
“When life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door.”
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/01/elite-versus-non-elite-mechanisms-for-censoring-public-discourse/#more-25978
The complexities of the case. Many of the cartoonists were extreme Liberals if not Jews – against the Pegida movement and European Nationalism in general. Though some have said (I do not know) that they were so wild that they made fun of Shoah and Judaic fundamentalism too.
Choudhari, (sp?) the Muslim firebrand is actually a very bright fellow. He said, if we can censor, fine, and jail historians and journalists for politically correct reasons, why not for Islamic ones as well? And if Islamic jurisprudence is in play, why their penalties are just a wee bit harsher…..
If Finc was in Paris and knew these guys, he might well mourn them and go to their Jewish funerals – and still be saying the same things he is saying about them now. Are you confused? He isn’t. He is capable of sporting any number of personas. How does he keep from getting confused? He has a North Star: Is it good for the Jews? With that kept in mind, all is clear, all is bright – and well nigh infinite complexity and flexibility become possible.
The moral for us? We need a North Star too. Can you guess what? Easy: Is it good for Whites?
You might want to read Camp Of The Saints by Jean Raspail, if you haven’t already.
Just checked. Ships with hundred as opposed to dozens are now coming to Italy. Now get this: 170,000 have been rescued by Italy over the last 14 months. That’s mindblowing. I had no idea it was already this bad. The European Union has to be overthrown or else Europe wont stop this, which means the real Europe will be overwhelmed.
http://www.amren.com/news/2015/01/uncrewed-ship-with-450-migrants-aboard-heading-for-italian-coast/
Malthus, if you’re looking in …
Are you the former ‘Anti Soak’? who used to post here.
His posts were alot like yours, short and pithy, and to the point, saying alot with just a few words.
Just curious.
brh
I was wondering that too. If so, he’s really cleaned up his writing – so as to conceal his identity no doubt.
“I do not get FinCaln. I can not even pronounce the name.” –malthuss
FincaInTheMountains is Finca In The Mountains
Finca is the Spanish word for farm, so it means Farm in The Mountains
Thanks.
Back Row, remember Orwells ‘1984’. Every things turned around
via propaganda.
Here is classic ‘Blame The Victim’, http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2015/01/08/usa-today-features-radical-clerics-op-ed-france-provoked-muslims?
“Is it good for Whites?” — Janos
Janos, people of color are those who meet the “one drop rule”, correct?
My neighbor may be suntanned or may have one drop. He appears to be white, but how can I be sure?
Who are “whites” anyway? Just those you say are white? How can you be a racist if you can’t tell who the enemy is?
This subject gets interesting when interracial people marry pure(r) Caucasians and have blonde/blue-eyed children. Where was the color-line in that situation? And isn’t it interesting that there is so much African-originated DNA present in rich-old southern ‘white’ families (hint: search the term “Rampart Street” & “Quadroon Ball”)…
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Hmmm… Janos? Where was it you said you from again?
😉
Are you implying that Negroes and Jews don’t exist either? That’s just criminal. And if it isn’t, it should be. And if it should be, it will be.
White traits are recessive so if you see someone who looks White, they probably are. Simple as that. But we will establish testing to please you doubting Thomas’s. I have no doubt that you are 100% White. You will be kept out for ideological reasons. Sorry Comrade, you just aren’t good enough.
there is so much African-originated DNA present in rich-old southern ‘white’ families. I doubt that. Southern Belles in the 1800s raising Mulattos???
The leftist theme that ‘Blacks are part White due to female slaves being raped’ has been disproved.
USA Blacks have White DNA because some White women liked BBC.
[For those who dont know what BBC is – Google is yr friend].
Sorry guys, we have genetic testing now. We’ll establish standards and we will have the tests to make it air tight.
Jim Kunstler, the ‘New’ Lagos, for the rich,
http://boingboing.net/2015/01/05/privatized-offshore-cities-th.html
Over in Western Europe, right now, Whitey’s holding vigils, lighting candles, wringing hands, singing hymns, hugging each other, tearing up, and attending ‘multi faith services’, in Mosques, where else.
Meanwhile, in ghettos of Paris, Lyon, Manchester, Berlin, Marsailles, and a hundred other places across Europe, Mustafa is getting himself a good laugh while cleaning his Kalashnikov, and stuffing 7.62×39 rounds into magazines.
Europeans better grow some balls pretty quick, or real soon there ain’t gonna be any more Europe, except as part of the Caliphate.
brh
Did you see the video of the person they executed on the sidewalk? Now that’s Stop, Don’t Shoot — not the Michael Brown bullshit although I wish that guy on the sidewalk would have gone after the gunmen like Michael went after Darren Wilson. This is why everyone should be smoking angel dust — just in case something like this happens to them, even though the odds are 8 million to one, they’ll be prepared to fight back.
If the cameraman had a rifle with a scope and a modicum of training, he could have saved the guy on the sidewalk’s life by putting one in the head of the both of those cowardly shooters. Instead, he filmed, unarmed, for posterity. Our executions will be televised, but the revolution won’t be because there will be no revolution. I-Everything has seem to that.
That’s idea is a winner: a scoped rifle that also is a video camera. You’re a businessman: Just Do It. But, But – shut up. Do it.
If you give me any more excuses, I’m going to mandate you read Michael Robins and do a fire walk.
he could have saved the guy on the sidewalk’s life – Cold
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The sidewalk’s life??
^This^ is a little clunky don’t you think?
Yes.
Russian counter-intelligence intercepted the message sent on January 6 this year from a operative of Vanguard Holdings in Kiev to US Vice President Joe Biden (Joe is in charge of Ukrainian affairs in US government):
“Now matter what we do, the asshole is not going to invade”
I know, Q, it is:
“No matter what we do, the asshole is not going to invade”
FitM,
Regarding: “Well, I presume your data is coming from extremely objective and trustworthy American press that have no interest in putting down the main economic rival.”-f.
Nope, not entirely. I know capital-flight when I see it. There’s been an exodus of cash in large amounts to all parts of the world for the past ten years at least. In my experience there are only two real reasons why people migrate en masse: 1) Starvation, 2) Mortal Terror.
Since China’s wealth-concentrating elite isn’t starving (not by a long-shot) we understand that there’s an *expectation* of mortal threat to come.
Wouldn’t it be funny if the weakest link in the G20 was *everybody*?
For reference:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-08/chinese-developer-kaisa-verge-5bn-default-whos-next
Who’s Next?
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Well, can’t say that I’m impressed with 5-bn dollars default in over 9 trillion dollar economy growing by a meager 7% a year.
But our friends in the West are eager to discover any sign of weakness.
And it is discovered that every dollar in Chinese GDP miraculously translates into 20 dollars of American GDP – see my post “Miracles of American GDP”
This isn’t something we need to be in conflict about. We already in principle about a few things.
The *primary* takeaway from that article is that there’s a complete lack of trust on the part of foreign investors (especially risk managers) for mainland Chinese businesses, and that they’re turning out to be completely fake enterprises in many (most?) cases…
This is something I have direct experience with… Thus my word of caution to you (specifically).
EDIT: “we already _agree_ in principle”… etc.
Heroin from Afghanistan: Approved by NATO
It is not possible to intervene and stop the cultivation of opium poppy in Afghanistan – poppy fields are protected by NATO. The position of NATO: Afghan farmers have the right to grow, produce and sell opium under our direct protection for the European and Russian heroin markets.
Factory for the production of heroin can be clearly seen from the air in the infrared (heat consuming process), the reagents are delivered in large quantities from China, poppy delivered for processing.
Conclusion: all this known to our American friends, and they patronage the entire process from poppy cultivation to finance and money laundering and directing the funds to “friendly” political forces (like Serbian Kosovo).
It is impossible either physically or politically to stop the flow of heroin into the Russian Federation. Heroin – is the force of Nature that sweeps away everything and everyone in its path. But that wave could be channeled, if you are lucky, in the right direction. The experience of the British Empire to sell opium to China by use of naval and military forces of Her Majesty could come in handy. It is difficult, of course, to compete with our American friends – they have a century-old experience dealing with cocaine and they could draw on rich Anglo-Saxon opium trade expertise in China.
It may be advisable to weaken the border controls on the export of heroin from the country and even completely eliminate the legal responsibility for trying to smuggle heroin from Russia. Create the conditions under which to import heroin is very unprofitable and dangerous, but taking it out is very easy and pleasant. So RF is converted from the country of consumption to the country of transit.
It is possible that Putin had secretly set new challenges for Drug Enforcement agency: reduce by 50-75% of heroin consumption by the population of the Russian Federation (by creating a heroin deficit on the Russian Market), and redirect the share of the US-Afghan heroin that was destined for Russia to other markets and continents. There is some confidence that the task will be executed. Drugs – is one method of atomization (fragmentation) of the society, and the atomization is the main element of “democratization”. West wants Russia to join in on the bloody struggle with its own heroin-consuming population, and drown in their own blood and the cost of maintaining prisoners.
The Government of V.Putin will ensure that NATO troops and the Afghan population have no problems obtaining humanitarian disposable syringes.
Under no circumstances [I would] condone or defend any terrorist action – Finca
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It’s [would I] but not in a million years [could I] explain why that is so.
“It’s [would I] but not in a million years [could I] explain why that is so.”
Should work harder on that, Q. Cut it down by five hundred thousand, at least.
I was reading some of policy stances from Jeb Bush’s just launched “Right To Rise” organization and one of the declarations states that it is ‘time to fix our broken immigration system’.
I’m pretty sure what he means by this but I doubt that will fly with the hard-core Tea Party types. But then again, that just might be the point: the GOP elite stamping out that aspect of the party once and for all.
Still, at the end of the day, JB will most likely retain these voters in a general election. And one big reason for this, or so I have recently learned via one of Janos’ links, is “Identitarians” covertly nodding and winking to their GOP/right-wing constituents.
Or put another way, constituents soon to be every bit as disaffected as far-left progressives in the Dem party.
I have no idea what Buck is talking about here since Identitarianism is a new, European, “soft” take on Fascism. It doesn’t exist here yet at all, except in a few White Nationalist minds. To give Buck credit, I assume this is a “Buckism” or a heavy handed attempt at humor. He is attempting to turn Identitarianism into a chamber pot, guffawing in bovine glee as he rubs his artwork hardened hands together.
No, no my point was not humor but the irony of the marginalized fringes in both parties. I did, however, go back and try to locate the article but it’s going to take a bit more time for me to locate as I went surfing off of one of your links and can’t recall exactly where I read it (I also read an article about a Rockefeller being eating by cannibals.)
I do recall the author using the term ” Identitarianism” more broadly and not just as a political movement but also as a recognition strategy of sorts–if I was reading it correctly.
Here’s a good intro. Sometimes they seem a little too soft, throwing the Fascist baby away with the bathwater. But I agree that some reworking had to be done and it’s not all cast in stone yet by any means.
http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/12/what-do-identitarians-want-part-1/#more-52061
I think that’s why JHK is talking about the rise of a 3rd party, Buck.
A few years ago I pointed out here a few similarities between the Tea Party and the OWS movement, but was quickly smacked down. I think those similarities still exist.
That’s where a viable 3rd party might come from.
brh
Main similarity: they both hate Wall Street.
Our “spell-police”, Q. Shtik, should start issuing the “bumping” tickets to be payable to the CFN’s benefit.
Disclaimer: I will not pay, will claim hardships induced by American sanctions.
The date – November 18, 2014 may go down in history forever.
On this day in the Chinese city of Yiwu of Zhejiang Province, which is 300 kilometers south of Shanghai, the first train loaded with containers full with Chinese finished goods weighing more than 1,000 tons left a huge warehouse, heading to …. Madrid
It arrived at the destination station on 9 of December.
Welcome to the new Trans-Eurasia Express!
American carrier fleet was nowhere to be seen on train’s path through huge landmasses of Siberia, Belorussia, Poland, Germany, France and Spain.
So you are suggesting the Europeans profit from the slave labor of China? Shame on you. Someplace in the remote wilderness, some fine patriot of some fine land, Asian or European, Yellow or White, will, no doubt, blow up those tracks and put an end to this travesty.
Yes FitM, this is pretty kewl. By the way, I posted this last week with an intro like ‘while some talk, others do’ or some-such… 😉
Meanwhile there’s this:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-08/day-history-baltic-dry-index-has-never-been-lower
The Baltic Dry Index (the measure of container-ship freight traffic, the baseline metric for the global trade) has never been lower… Whatever was going on pre-2008 is over and done with. One might even say that global trade has … *collapsed*.
As the Long Emergency progresses, it looks like the Eurasian Powers are consolidating. It makes such perfect sense for them to collaborate without a control-freak middle-man nation, does it not?
“Sorry guys, we have genetic testing now. We’ll establish standards and we will have the tests to make it air tight.” –Janos
Janos, who is “we”?
What do you mean by “standards”?
What kind of “tests”?
“Air tight”?
You truly live in a fantasy world, Janos. Come back to reality. Blacks and whites and Hispanics are living together along with a hundred other immigrant groups. There is no race war happening, except in your head. Fear and ignorance and racism are dying out with each successive generation. Miscegenation rates are increasing. We are truly in a cool interval… the era of Jim Crow is a distant memory. Housing and educational discrimination are dying out. The civil rights movement was a success and we are living in a peaceful multicultural society. The world continues to shrink, communication and transportation is easier and easier, and different ethnicities are learning about and appreciating each other. You are history, Janos. Racism goes against both the zeitgeist and historical currents. There is no going back to apartheid.
You haven’t heard about genetic testing? You are falling farther and further behind the times, you 60’s retread.
I’m history? That sounds like the genocidal threats Bill Ayers and the Weathermen made against Whites.
Let’s be honest here. People selectively highlight those aspects of genealogy/DNA testing that best elevates a desired self image and ignore the mutt aspects. For instance, in one Scottish Highland clan there is great pride among those who are the true descendants of a certain 10th century Viking leader (validated via DNA testing) and thus more worthy of the clan name, or so it seemed to me.
I once went to one of these Scottish Highland Clan gatherings where weekday businessmen dress up as William Wallace and rupture inter-vertebral disks by attempting to toss around logs. I ventured into one display booth and a 300lb man in a kilt asked me what clan I was from. I told him I never joined the clan but I did tell him my last name. He sized me up and nodded approvingly with ‘that’s a pretty good name’. I have never gone back to another gathering lol.
Well let’s face it: Whites of Northwestern Europe have an incredible pedigree. Whites from Southern Europe and Eastern Europe have been mixed with other races. Or even their original genotype is more like generic humanity. Some of the East Asians do as well – those who have not been mixed with Turks or the various Malay peoples. India in an amazing mix/mess of high and low. There was a Very dark skinned race of Caucasians that were there before the Aryans. They’re not to be confused with the Australoid types who exist in massive numbers and bring India down very much.
I went to a Highland Festival and they had a Black and Hispanic guy on stage in kilts. The officials had some kind of inner city program to help inner city youth – and they produced little Black kids, in a city full of poor Whites, many of them of Scots Irish descent. Needless to say I felt utter disgust.
America has a love of the mongrel as an official policy. Meanwhile such kids languish in orphanages while White kids go at a premium. And the couples who really believe this propaganda and adopt racial aliens are even worse than they hypocrites.
Are Scandinavians part Asian [eskimoes, ‘skalings-wretched ones’]?
Or part Irish due to kidnapping Irish women?
Did Finland sell thier DNA registry to a drug company?
Janos, of course I have heard of genetic testing. Have you heard about it unreliability when applied to general population screening on a large scale? Are you aware of the challenges encountered in genetic screening programs, including false-positive and ambiguous test results, overdiagnosis, and incidental findings?
There is no way to reliably determine who is “white” since no such thing exists biologically speaking. You think you commonly observe race as a fixed characteristic of human populations, but it does not exist in terms of human biology. Humans share about 99.8% of their genes in common. Nevertheless, you routinely look to the human body for evidence about racial identity.
Janos, do you believe that there are genetic differences unique to a specific population? If you accept those differences to identify a race that means we’ve got about 2,000 races in the human species because you can identify the genetic differences of rare alleles to specific geographical regions.
What’s the point in identifying any of them if you have so many? You would have races by every hilltop, every valley, every divide in a river. At that level, the whole idea of race breaks down.
Look at the different races (breeds) of dogs: so different in appearance, behavior, temperament, and abilities. Only a fool would deny the reality of race, be it in humans or dogs.
Blacks have incredible gifts, just not the ones that make for Western Civilization or any Industrial society. Charity dictates that they must be returned to an environment that they understand – and not be allowed to ruin ours. You see love begins at home, with ourselves.
“You see love begins at home, with ourselves.”-j.
That’s an interesting statement – when it comes from a celibate(voluntary or not) male, Janos.
No matter. Onward to something more important:
Janos, I must admit that worried about your direction in life. Surely you can see that in this fascist fantasy-land of yours that there is a deep, fundamental and ultimately strategic flaw?
The idea that you can impose 100% genetic testing on a community is going to politically isolate the faction that calls for it, no matter how racially aware and ‘correct’ that founding population is.
If you compromise for less (requiring a 50% ‘random’ genetic inspection, for example) this merely opens the door to corruption and internecine strife, as favorites inevitably get played and ‘random’ inspections prove not to be.
I invite you to review the facts regarding ancient Sparta and the Edicts of Lycurgus. Humanity’s already seen many attempts at creating a ‘perfect’ society by enforcing genetic correctness, and all of them were consigned to the waste-bin of History.
There’s a sound reason for that… 😉
The Jews boast about how they have outlasted so many Civilizations. They never could have done it without the Laws against miscegenation. If you don’t believe me, ask them. They are terrified by the rate of out-marriage in the West. On the other hand, the Orthodox are having big families and growing in numbers. Thus Judaism is getting more extreme. The future belongs to fanatics. You still haven’t figured out that Liberalism is a Culture of Death.
I agree the Greeks had problems. They were far too warlike. After they had exhausted themselves fighting each other, Rome waltzed in. Extreme Yang evokes Yin. The Men of Sparta were never at home, but always in the field or barracks. So the Women ended up doing a lot of the ruling – and having affairs with the helots. Ridiculous. Also that kind of extreme warrior cult breeds homosexuality as well. Whites as a whole have been too Yang and now we are paying dearly for it. Contrast that with the Chinese: when they conquer something, it stays conquered because they don’t conquer anything they can’t hold. Tibet now has more Chinese people than native Tibetans.
What you call being reasonable is just pandering to popular ideas and prejudices. To Women in other words. Bet you did well in school: find out what the professor wants and give it to him. It’s a winning formula on the job too. Mediocrity wins out and society become more and more mediocre. The Founders were farmers and tradesmen. They didn’t have to ask their boss for time off so they could fight in a Revolution. The boss would have said no. And men who have to ask for everything are broken men to begin with – not revolutionary material.
Therefore I agree you are better adapted than I am. Most psychologists would say you are healthier than me. But as Jenifer Garner says, Are you really?
Also that kind of extreme warrior cult breeds homosexuality as well.
Alexander The Great?
“So you are suggesting the Europeans profit from the slave labor of China? Shame on you. Someplace in the remote wilderness, some fine patriot of some fine land, Asian or European, Yellow or White, will, no doubt, blow up those tracks and put an end to this travesty.” – Janos
Finally! The real Anglo Sax talk! Nobody could profit from Chinese slave labor but us, or we gonna blow everything sky-high.
Thank you, Janos.
Again, what are you doing here? This is a site for people who believe in local markets and small is beautiful. Why don’t you go to a Tom Friedman type site and debate the Neo Cons over who gets to rule the Flat, Hot, Ugly world, the Judaized Anglos or Russified Jews?
US demands Nicaragua to disclose information about inter-oceanic canal project
Washington is demanding transparency and publicity in this matter, as well as the disclosure of details of the environmental monitoring and open bidding.
Chinese businessman Wang Jing is behind the project (Front man for Chinese military?). Some critics have questioned the financial feasibility of building the Panama Canal rival and accused the Chinese investor in the absence of experience with large financial and infrastructure projects.
Construction of inter-oceanic canal began in Nicaragua in December.
The final draft of the construction of the was submitted in July. The channel length is about 280 km and will cost approximately $50 billion and should be completed in five years. It will connect the Pacific coast of Nicaragua to the Caribbean Sea.
Nicaragua also invited Russia to participate in the construction of the canal. (Nod doubt to protect the construction with Russian military fleet from too zealous American “environmentalists”).
Experts point out that if the project will be implemented, Nicaragua can suddenly become an important transit country.
Over 4% of the world of shipping passes through the Panama Canal, and, as experts point out, it is unable to cope with the flow. Every year 14 thousand ships are going through Panama Canal 14, or about 40 per day.
US: We refuse to build infrastructure (just blow it up in other countries) and we sure as hell will not let anybody else do it either.
As singer Neil Young noted, ‘Since USA gave the canal back. the Chinese can ship Nukes thru it’.
Obama sent his New Year greetings to Uzbek people.
Uzbek people tensed up: “Should we start building bomb shelters?”
Uzbek newspapers published the New Year’s greetings from Barack Obama, which was addressed to President Islam Karimov. In his message the American president says that he expects to strengthen the partnership with Uzbekistan in 2015.
“On behalf of the American people I send you and the people of Uzbekistan my best wishes for peace and prosperity in the New Year. In 2015, I look forward to strengthening the partnership between our countries and to work together to build a more stable and secure world for all.”
Not all citizens of Uzbekistan were inspired by the congratulations from the US, given that the logic of the American president includes such a thing as “building a safer world.” On the examples of Afghanistan and Iraq, Uzbekistan knows how American “partners” can build a “safer world” in particular states.
It is reported that the official Tashkent demanded that the ISAF (united force group) to increase the rent for the use of an air base in Termez during their withdrawal from Afghanistan . The lease agreement was signed between the Uzbek and German authorities, however, accurate data on the lease term and its value has not been reported.
According to German media, the rent on the original agreement was about 16 million dollars per year. Now Uzbekistan states that rent Termez air base should be increased, since ISAF operates it more actively in the new mission, called “Strong Support” – “SS”.
Obama’s congratulations and statements on “strengthening the partnership” were, apparently, due to the fact that NATO countries are going to exploit the Uzbek air base for a long time and after the withdrawal of the main forces from Afghanistan.
But of course, how in the hell else they are going to guarantee heroin shipments to Europe?
“Again, what are you doing here? This is a site for people who believe in local markets and small is beautiful. ” Janos
Janos, what the hell you are talking about? How many tomatoes have you sold in 2014? I could tell you exactly how many liters of milk I produced and sold last year from my finca (farm).
I tried couple of times to start “small market” conversation, remember my palm nut drying business? Nobody just gives a flying f*ck.
By the way, thanks everybody for your “good lucks” for my pyrolisis oven project that I never received – by the way the oven is doing quite well, however some troubleshooting is still in process.
Oh sorry, you write so much crap about Russia that my eyes glazed over. Are you then, an Orlovian? Also you should be farming in Russia if you are Russian.
Do you know anything about pigs? Would it be possible to domesticate a variant of the ancient giant European Boar? I’m having a vision of putting armor on them and using them against Muslim mobs just as we use dogs for police and military work.
What are dried palm nuts used for?
It was pretty funny, a few days ago, Ed Markie D Mass. making a speech in Congress objecting to the Keystone Pipeline on the basis of Global Warming, at the very moment it was 22 degrees below zero back in his home district in eastern Mass.
brh
Shiver Me Pipelines (please use your best pirate’s voice when reading fro best results and maximum effect)
for (Q. — shuddup)
Hey CNH, to return to an earlier thread (and something you have commented on) it looks like the Virginia Roberts story has already died out. Is it possible the MSM is kind of ignoring it because Bill Clinton’s name came up? He seems to have spent a lot of time on this billionaire’s ‘Fantasy Island”. Just a thought.
That British Royal implicated is one strange looking dude!
The Bill Cosby drama is still going strong, tho.
brh
Maybe Monica and Virginia should just team up and call it the “Whores For Money” tour. After all, Monica suddenly felt the urge to ‘talk about the past’ in advance of the inevitable Hillary run at the White House.
Yes, inevitable indeed: Hillary just added the campaign manager of the winning Warner campaign in Virginia.
Cool [pun intended].
Happy Birthday to Kim Jong Un!
I’m lighting a candle at this moment.
How old is the Dear Leader now, anyway?
brh
35 going on 8
there’s been famine in NKorea — its well documented — but from photos it appears Kim Jong Um himself eats pretty well.
His favorite dish is peasant under glass.
Kim Jong-Un: poster-child of monarchy’s inherent weakness. “Abonim” my buttocks…
No birthday party for Kim Jong-un this year
By Reuters
January 8, 2015 | 9:31am
Photo: Reuters
Exactly one year ago, flamboyant NBA hall of fame star Dennis Rodman stepped up to a microphone in the center ring of a North Korean basketball court and sang “Happy Birthday” to leader Kim Jong-un, the world’s youngest head of state.
There’s a new Denzel Washington movie out that makes the Russians look evil. I learned a Russian word from the movie—“Sooka”, which I think means “Bitch”. Those Russians are really Evil! Just kidding: I’ve always rather liked the Russians. They don’t seem to be loud and frivolous, and they seem to mind their own business. They’d probably make good neighbors.
I rented that movie one night and yes, Denzel is quite the bad ass hero
who utterly annihilates his Russian antagonists.
Once in a while I find myself diverted to the FB pages of Russian artists. One thing leads to another and I am then drooling over some incredibly beautiful Russian woman who made a comment or liked a particular work of art. I don’t know what it is about Russian women but they look so much more natural and authentic in the feminine sense than American women, possessing a certain ineffable grace that is hard to explain but easy to visually detect. For one, they don’t appear so emotionally constricted and spiritually ossified by the strait jacket molds of American commercial pop culture. In many ways, we Americans are an extraordinarily ugly people. Do you find Sarah Palin or Ann Coulter beautiful? I don’t and it’s not because of their looks. Something else is seeping through to the surface; something obnoxious and ideologically belligerent.
I think you are right. But beware: Russian women are notorious for their materialism, as are East Asian women. They see us as walking wallets and meal tickets.
As I have said so many times, women aren’t admirable on the whole. And yes, they should be kept out of voting booths, etc. Volodya is correct in his synopsis. This is men’s rights 101. Knowing the nature of women, patriarchs endeavored to impose order on their personal chaos – using other women as the first line of enforcement. It works and society is made possible by making women be monogamous or be shamed. As Buddha said, fear and shame are the guardians of the world.
Now once a woman is doing her duty, she is held up for admiration and given privileges, at least she was in the West. And more and perhaps a bridge too far: she was lauded for her virtue since the late middle ages and then under the romantics. As it has been said by realists, women’s virtue is a male invention. Indeed to some extent it may have been part of system of control, this time levied against young men. If they knew the real nature of women, would they want to marry one?
Or to put it another way: male control provides the natural context for women to rise up spiritually. As the Bible says, they were created to be our servants, not our equals or masters. The Feminist fantasy of a world of equality, or even feminine dominance, is just a destructive fantasy. The “natural” women thus produced is not worthy of associating with – being a product that not even ancient cave cultures would claim kinship with. Certainly the “oppressed” women of the Victorian Age were far more beautiful and probably far happier all other things being equal (comparing middle class then with middle class now).
You forgot ‘green cards’.
They see us as walking wallets and meal tickets.
Any Muslims in Santa Monica yet? My city is being inundated: mostly small wretched guys, crosses between Arabs and the little brown Somali/Ethiope types. Saw a group of the Arab Warrior Caste though: tall and handsome, like college football players.
“Do you find Sarah Palin or Ann Coulter beautiful? I don’t and it’s not because of their looks. Something else is seeping through to the surface; something obnoxious and ideologically belligerent.”-buck.
One might describe that quality as *Toxic*.
Considering Kim Jong-un’s prodigious appetite and his penchant for peasant under glass, a better name for him would have been Kim Jong-yummy yum, don’t you think?
Mr. Darling, I’m guessing that your wife occasionally checks in to see what it is you’re posting. Hence your explicit statement of commitment to monogamy. That’s ok, I understand. And thanks for the reading recommendation.
And I agree that culture, meaning at its most basic level, collective behavior (not my definition BTW but something I read), can’t be legislated.
Now, having gotten all that out of the way, and before I crack open the book, I’m going to make some wild-assed guesses as to what it said. And these guesses are based on what I’ve witnessed in the long years of my own sorry-assed existence on this earth. I’m assuming that the writers saw some of the same things.
1) Men are naturally inclined to cheat, that what we want is variety, that we want to sample that garden of female delights in all its diversity.
2) But, men are just awful hypocrites, for while they like to dally with that cute, young thing, they’d fly into a rage if they caught their wives cheating. To put it differently, a man doesn’t want to get stuck breaking his back to feed another guy’s kid that his cheating wife happened to pop out.
2) Women are likewise inclined to cheat but for different reasons. They’re hypocrites too. You see, women are conflicted. They want a “nice” guy for his steadiness, his level-headedness, the regularity of his paycheck, his self-control and self-discipline. They’re just reluctant to bear his kids. You see, IOW they want this tame, domesticated specimen to get dinner started and breast feed the offspring while she humps the biker on the outskirts of town.
3) Because, for while “nice” guys are good to have around, and while women the world over insist they want a “nice” guy to marry, women are liars. They NEED a “nice” guy but that’s not what they want. What they really want is Mr Bad, that is, a dominant male and dominant males are not generally “nice”. They tend to be physically big and strong, they tend to mistreat people, they misbehave a good deal. For example, the biker.
The thing is that several million years of evolution in the wild tell female eyes and noses that Mr Bad’s appearance and fumes indicate biological fitness. Even if Mr Bad’s behavior tells the woman that he isn’t so well adapted to the settled, urban, farming life. Hence the problem, a contradiction between female wants and needs. Humans were wild for a lot longer than we’ve been domestic.
So, how many times have you heard a women say that female sexuality is “complicated”. They say they want wine and roses and romance. And there’s issues with desire and drive and arousal and holy smokes it gets frustrating. OK, I’m not female. But based on what I’ve seen, it ain’t THAT complicated. Conflicted, yes, in spades.
I think that a lot of trouble comes from the contradiction between women’s minds and instincts. Their minds (and their moms) tell them to want Mr Right. But their instincts tell them what they want is Mr Bad. And by “Bad” I mean “Bad” from today’s perspectives. And by “today” I mean the last ten thousand years of settled village and town life.
So, there’s Mr Right, his duly married wife in bed next to him. And by jesus, she isn’t in the mood. She’s tired, she’s stressed out, she has a head-ache, not tonight. She isn’t in the mood and she’s seldom in the mood because he’s not what she wants. He’s admirable, well respected, a good man, a good earner, mows the lawn and helps around the house. But dammit, he’s not big enough, not tough enough, not a fighter, not a hunter (ie not the big, hairy biker she sees tooling around town). Once in a while she’ll grudgingly do her duty and think of England to quell discontent.
And that folks is my amateur psychoanalysis for the day. So Mr D tell me how far off the mark I am.
“Mr. Darling, I’m guessing that your wife occasionally checks in to see what it is you’re posting. Hence your explicit statement of commitment to monogamy. That’s ok, I understand. And thanks for the reading recommendation.”-v.
LOL!
Actually, no she does not. But thank you for your amusing comment and concern for my well-being! It is appreciated.
🙂
“And that folks is my amateur psychoanalysis for the day. So Mr D tell me how far off the mark I am.”-v.
A lot – but that was a nice synop/synthesis of the prevailing set of notions in the scientific community, data be-damned.
“You see, IOW they want this tame, domesticated specimen to get dinner started and breast feed the offspring while she humps the biker on the outskirts of town.”-v
During the paleolithic – which is humankind’s ‘natural-state’ by percentage of our developmental existence spent in it – all of our counterparts were “the biker on the outskirts” to a significant degree. So the point is moot. This argument only makes sense in the post-agrarian context, and that is much more recent than the first recorded attempts at domesticate vegetation reliance. It took a few thousand years to get the crops working right, and even then famine was only a twitch of the jet-steam away.
“Women are likewise inclined to cheat but for different reasons. They’re hypocrites too. You see, women are conflicted. They want a “nice” guy for his steadiness, his level-headedness, the regularity of his paycheck, his self-control and self-discipline. They’re just reluctant to bear his kids. You see, IOW they want this tame, domesticated specimen to get dinner started and breast feed the offspring while she humps the biker on the outskirts of town.”-v.
This is argument (revolving around “Male Parental Investment”) is handled by the authors on pg. 49 under the section “How Darwin Insults Your Mother (The Dismal Science of Sexual Economics)”…You’d love it.
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“So, how many times have you heard a women say that female sexuality is “complicated”.-v.
“Complicated”? Uh, *right*… /s… It _so_ isn’t. The only thing “complicated” about it is explaining it in a way that isn’t utterly beyond socially awkward in the modern context. But this really wasn’t a problem, ‘back in day’ of paleolithic society. There was *such* an elegant solution for it all.
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One of the concluding ‘takeaway notions’ from the book is that we are all designed for a lot more *action* than we’re getting, none of us is getting enough, and rarely are we getting it the way we want it – Thanks to the ‘fortuitous’ rise of agriculture, with all its dubious ‘abundance’ (and subsequent interlocking systems of constraint).
You ought to check it out Volodya. . . “You’d dig it the most!”
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And yes, Ozone, as you say: the organization of a society into patriarchal/matriarchal format is all dependent on “what you’d kill for”.
People kill for a lot of reasons but most basically it boils down to survival.
Again, as you say: simply who has the plain sense to match need to available resources. (Existence before procreation; an important distinction.)
It makes no sense to procreate if you aren’t around to care for the young ‘uns. It takes a village to raise a child? Maybe for a better or more thorough socialization. But, no, their odds of survival are far greater if mom and dad are there. Others may shoulder the burden but not as willingly nor as diligently.
CORRECTION……it takes a village to raise an idiot.
“It makes no sense to procreate if you aren’t around to care for the young ‘uns. It takes a village to raise a child? Maybe for a better or more thorough socialization. But, no, their odds of survival are far greater if mom and dad are there. Others may shoulder the burden but not as willingly nor as diligently.”-v.
First of all – don’t think for a second that I’m not in favor of two-parent families, it’s the model that I what I know works well, and I’m sticking with it… Having said that, two items for your consideration: 1) Historically and currently there are societies that expect the early death of one or both biological parents – due to violence, disease, etc. and having nothing to do with ‘dead-beat dads’ and whatnot, 2) As a species we spent a VAST-ly greater amount of time evolving under paleolithic social conditions. Nuclear families as we understand them in this post-agrarian era simply didn’t exist. The band/tribe was your family – directly or more distantly. If mom and dad got whacked, that was no problem (from a logistical pov). If that wasn’t the case, we probably wouldn’t be having this little exchange of information and views.
Once again: I’m not a proponent of ‘polyamory’ etc., I lean in the direction of Mr. Orlov’s viewpoint. The reason that I bring this up is b/c the spectrum of cultural adaptation to and resolution to The Objective Universes little ‘problem sets’ is much wider than we give credit.
The crap’s so high in the streets they don’t make boots or waders high enough to keep it at bay. It can hardly be navigated and forget about keeping your nose clean, but it does tickle the funny bone.
Who is Charlie Hebdo?
Je Suis Qui Je Suis
Hello Janos,
“What you call being reasonable is just pandering to popular ideas and prejudices. To Women in other words. Bet you did well in school: find out what the professor wants and give it to him. It’s a winning formula on the job too. Mediocrity wins out and society become more and more mediocre. The Founders were farmers and tradesmen. They didn’t have to ask their boss for time off so they could fight in a Revolution. The boss would have said no. And men who have to ask for everything are broken men to begin with – not revolutionary material.”-j.
Good points – for the most part [*] – however some of us have mastered the technique of playing the game and asking as need be… Until we _don’t_…
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Once again Janos, I’m here to help!
🙂
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[*] I don’t agree with your attitude of: ‘let’s blame women (en masse) for our petty grievances and disappointments in life, and then let’s blame them some more because… what the hell!’ This mentality is inherently weak and structurally incorrect.
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I’m not blaming women for their limitations just pointing them out. I blame men for not seeing the obvious and taking control.
Maybe Monica and Virginia should just team up and call it the “Whores For Money” tour. After all, Monica suddenly felt the urge to ‘talk about the past’ in advance of the inevitable Hillary run at the White House.
Yes, inevitable indeed: Hillary just added the campaign manager of the winning Warner campaign in Virginia.
Hell yeah! Dats wut um tawkin bout nigga. Letts f*ck dose ho bag bi*ch*s in da clicky clank. Special e dat 12 year old ho dat seducted Romaine Polanstein — da famus moobie dictater dat made Rosewater’s Fetus or sumthin like dat.
Je Suis Qui Je Suis
Je Suis Popeye the Sailor Man
Big headlines for France. Whites were killed by Muslim extremists.
Hundreds killed by Muslim extremists in Yola, Nigeria and mostly ignored. 10,000 killed Boko Haram in the last five years.
It is almost as if Black lives don’t matter.
They don’t, and neither does yours or mine……
To Pols ‘Black Votes Matter’. Ask Obama.
Do you think that dead French people make headline news in over Boko in Africa? What’s the matter with these Africans? Don’t white lives matter? Or is it possible that their news reflects the interests of the bulk of the people? Maybe it’s an American thing, or perhaps you need to read better newspapers, but it got a fair bit of coverage here in Europe.
“Do you know anything about pigs? Would it be possible to domesticate a variant of the ancient giant European Boar? I’m having a vision of putting armor on them and using them against Muslim mobs just as we use dogs for police and military work.” – Janos
Why I am getting an impression that this project has been realized already?
The Point Zero
The anti-terrorist operation (ATO) has begun in France. Riot police are combing the cities and towns in search of Islamists who killed on the seventh of January in the center of Paris twelve journalists of the allegedly satirical weekly “Charlie Hebdo”. The mobilization of law enforcement officers (88,000 people put into operation) has been announced, enhanced protection of schools, railway stations, newspapers, government agencies. There are conflicting reports coming from the provinces about the hostage-taking by unknown gunmen. Attempts to undermine the mosques have been documented. Hackers hack Islamist official sites to place unequivocal threats against the French authorities. It has not come yet to multiple rocket launch and artillery systems. What does Ukraine have in common will all that?
There are some striking resemblances of mass media hysteria that accompanies Parisian events, with the February revolution in Kiev. Even the video imagery is the same: the murder on live TV. Only in Paris there were no snipers (whose identity have not been established up to the present day), but some militants in black. But in both cases the nightmarish processes were launched, the consequences of which go far beyond the usual boundaries of ordinary reality. And again, just like last year, Michael Khodorkovsky arrived on the scene with radical appeals. This time, he sided with the “Paris Maidan” (tens of thousands of Parisians that took to the streets of the city) and called on all media to declare a war on Islam by posting cartoons of the Muslim shrines all over the Western newspapers. In Kiev, Khodorkovsky called on to destroy Russia in general and Putin in particular.
An act of some infernal opera using scenario developed and polished in Ukraine is being played out in France now. There are just too many striking resemblances. This only confirms the thesis about the role of information manipulation in modern society. The main thing here is a shocking informational pretext based on a number of factors: political, cultural, psychological, religious. Further events will snowball from that zero point.
The shooting of Paris journalists, repeatedly “distinguished” themselves with publication of caricatures offending the religious feelings of Muslims – a “zero point” of European events. The shootings of “Euromaidan” activists by the “unknown snipers” – a “zero point” of Kiev’s February coup in Ukraine.
This is the firm handwriting of behind-the-scene director, which specializes in this kind of productions. In all its diabolical scenarios some “zero point” always exists. However, the scenario not always develops according to initial script.
A classical example – the catastrophe with Malaysian airlines “Boeing” MH17. Something went wrong, and it was not possible to use all inherent destructive potential of that event.
The “zero point” theory, which is constantly being manifested in the most significant geopolitical scenarios, allows to decipher and predict events in the areas of “national interests of the United States.” The fact that Ukraine has become a classic US protectorate, banana republic, a puppet state, is completely obvious to the sane people beyond doubt. Therefore, the work of “unknown screenwriter” in 2015 will be continued. And we already know that he uses the same techniques and technologies tested to varying degrees in different countries.
http://www.russiapost.su/archives/39962
Russian women seem a bit strange to me. They seem to come in 2 sizes: svelte, or morbidly obese. Why is that? And I can’t drink that vodka. I like a good rum, or whiskey, or tequila. What does the word “Vodka” mean?
I don’t know what it means, but a pint of Bukhov costs just $3 or $4, and this is what the hard core drunks drink down by the river, throwing the empty bottles all over the place. I think its about 60 proof.
Some of you obviously weren’t listening to BBC America last nite — ok, ok, I’m up anyway working graveyard. The way it works is the host has two or three guests to comment on events; last night it was a ‘MultiCultural Facilitator’ and a ‘Community Relationship Expert’ (these people have an interesting way of speaking, high inflection, words coming out thru the nose, not the mouth, arrogant, lot of phrases borrowed from the ‘therapeutic community’. Listen to NPR to get an idea what it sounds like). anyway, the French have only themselves to blame by not making Muslims feel welcome enough in France, which is rife with racism and ‘Islamaphobia’. In short, they haven’t given over their whole country fast enough, and haven’t yet adopted Shariah Law. Also, they need to atone by bringing in more Muslims. And this whole freedom of the press thing might need to be revisited, ‘specially when it comes to insulting ‘The Prophet’. These commentators seemed a little nervous, like they were looking over their shoulder, worrying a little what the millions of Muslims in Britain were up to, just a few blocks from the studio where the program was being recorded.
–brh
On a happier note, seems many of French police and ‘Paras’ armed with the Ruger Mini 14, a good choice.
The ‘Eskimos’ never tire.
Remember when Ms Greenspan [aka Andrea] said, ‘Iowa is TOO White’.
Make no mistake there is an agenda at play.
Can you imagine her saying that even 50 years ago?
Blame YT [whitey].
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2015/01/09/nbcs-andrea-mitchell-frets-over-muslims-under-fire-europe?
“Vodka” means “Water”, right? As in, they drink it like water?
Behind the Charlie-Hebdo Massacre: Is French President Hollande Bucking the NATO Party Line by Demanding an End to Sanctions Against Russia, by Preparing to Release Warships to Moscow, by Refusing to Invade Libya, and by Undercutting the Merkel-Samaras Demagogy about the Phantomatic “Grexit” ?
French President Francois Hollande declared on Monday January 5 that US-ordered sanctions against Russia had to end. On January 7, Paris was rocked by the worst terror attack in many decades, carried out by ostentatiously Islamist operatives against the political satire weekly Charlie Hebdo. Are these events somehow related? And is the real issue more geopolitics than free speech?
http://tarpley.net/behind-the-charlie-hebdo-massacre-hollande-bucking-nato/
So the Chechen Muslims didn’t kill all those Russian kids? And that Jewish Billionaire who Putin drove out doesn’t actually fund them from London?
And btw, they pulled the triggers. No one made them do it. The Muslims are just as much to blame as the Western Billionaires who fund them. Each is using the other.
I looks like that unfortunately, I was right in my prediction that 2015 is not going to be boring.
The World Hybrid War has arrived in the heart of Europe.
This is just too easy……….here in Ft. Meade and Langley we are laughing our asses off. We manipulate one of our useful idiot assets into attacking a frenchie symbol, our wholly owned media goes hysterical, and all you sheep bleat for more protection, and increase our budget and operating parameters. So easy it’s getting boring…..
😉
Who ordered the attack against Charlie Hebdo?
While many French react to the attack against Charlie Hebdo denouncing Islam and demonstrating in the streets, Thierry Meyssan points out that the jihadist interpretation is impossible. While it would be tempting for him to see it as an Al Qaeda or Daesh operation, he envisages another, much more dangerous hypothesis.
On January 7, 2015, commandos erupted in Paris, in the premises of Charlie Hebdo and murdered 12 people. 4 more victims are still in serious condition.
On the videos, the attackers are heard shouting “Allah Akbar! and “avenge Muhammad”. One witness, a Coco designer, said they proclaimed affiliation with al-Qaeda. That’s all it took for many French to denounce it as an Islamist attack.
The mission of this commando had no connection with jihadist ideology
Indeed, members or sympathizers of the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaeda or Daesh would not be content to just kill atheist cartoonists; they would have first destroyed the archives of the newspaper on site, following the model of all their actions in North Africa and the Levant. For jihadists, the first duty is to destroy the objects that they believe offend God, and to punish the “enemies of God.”
Similarly, they would not have immediately retreated, fleeing the police, without completing their mission. They would rather have completed their mission, were they to die on the spot.
In addition, videos and some evidence shows that the attackers are professionals. They wielded their weapons expertly and fired advisedly. They were not dressed in the fashion of the jihadists, but as military commandos.
How they dispatched a wounded policeman who posed no danger to them, certifies that their mission was not to “avenge Muhammad” because of the crass humor of Charlie Hebdo.
This aims to create the beginning of a civil war
The fact that the assailants speak French well and are probably French does not necessarily indicate that this attack is a Franco-French episode. Rather, the fact that they are professional forces one to distinguish them from possible sponsors. And there is no evidence that these are French.
It is a normal reflex, but intellectually wrong to consider, when one is a victim of an attack, that one knows his attackers. This is most logical when it comes to normal crimes, but it’s wrong when it comes to international politics.
Sponsors for the attack knew it would cause a divide between French Muslims and French non-Muslims. Charlie Hebdo had specialized in anti-Muslim provocation and most Muslims in France have been directly or indirectly their victims. Though the Muslims of France will surely condemn this attack, it will be difficult for them to experience as much pain for the victims as felt by the readers of the newspaper. This will be seen by some as complicity with the murderers.
Therefore, rather than seeing this as an extremely deadly Islamist attack of revenge against the newspaper that published the Mohammed cartoons and multiplied front page anti-Muslim headlines, it would be more logical to consider that it is the first episode of a process to trigger a civil war.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article186441.html
Yes, the French Jews seem very happy to finally have the French behind them again. Could this be the angle to focus on?
A civil war? What? France isn’t Spain and this isn’t the 20th century. Western Europe doesn’t do civil wars anymore. Not to mention, but I will, what would the sides be? Muslims versus who/what exactly? The unarmed French people? Who would be arming the Muslims? Russia? I don’t think so. Try another theory. I did in my recent blog post. Throwing spaghetti at the conspiracy wall can be fun, but do it in style. This is sloppy and crude.
Did you know Old MacDonald Had A Finca? Now you do if you didn’t.
Anglo Saxons are very serious when it comes to disciplining the members of NATO alliance. Remember 2011, when Norway said it was going to quit coalition that was bombing Libya at that time? Few days later Anders Breivik goes on a shooting spree, killing children of the Norway elite – members of Social Democratic party.
Hollande says it is time to stop Russian sanctions, two days later we have mass murder in the center of Paris.
“Throwing spaghetti at the conspiracy wall can be fun, but do it in style.” Janos
Janos, there is a good saying in Spanish: “No morir idiota”.
Now where did I say that? I didn’t. Second time this week you’ve attributed words to me that I didn’t say. Last time it was someone else who said it. This time? Did you just make something up?
Ah, Cold said it. I’m not he. Stop being a slob and mind your p’s and q’s.
My apologies, Janos. I screwed up – it was Cold who said it.
“Old MacDonald had finca…
E.I.E.I.O…
And on this farm he kept his many wives…
E.I.E.I.O…
With a grunt grunt here…
And squeal squeal there…
Here a grunt…
There a grunt…
Everywhere a grunt grunt…
“Old MacDonald had farm…
E.I.E.I.O….”
Do you remember Orwell’s “Animal Farm” ( “Animal Finca”)?
Meanwhile in Ukraine their showing some ‘pep’;
– Meet the new Cabinet Member –
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-09/meet-janika-merilo-ukraines-new-minister-attracting-investment
Well, at least someone’s showing some spunk over there, not just bracing for the next (figurative) thrust…
😉
Malthus, no worries.
I did indeed hear Kristoff on SR on my way into work; he talks like a faggot. Here’s the deal. The elite lefty media in NYC was indeed staggered, momentarily, by events in France. Like Blacks in the US, Muslims are victims (primarily of President Bush), never assailants. But look here, they have recovered nicely. In 35 minutes I heard the name ‘Tim Mc Viegh’ a dozen times, and ‘Christian Terrorism another dozen. So that’s what the narrative will be from here on in with the lefty homo NYU Dartmouth elite in Manhattan TV studios.
brh
See Occidental Observer. The very recent story on censorship and the guy mentioning ‘white right wing extremist’ but never ‘Muslim immigrant’ with regards to the French dilemma.
Fincains writing so much about Russia I’m digging around for my tattered volume of Chekhov, maybe reread ‘The Steppe’, or ‘the Cattle dealers’, great stories rooted in the Russian soil, exquisitly told by the good Doctor Chekhov.
brh
[Beastiality]
“Old MacDonald had finca..,
E.I.E.I.O…
And on this farm he kept his many wives…
E.I.E.I.O…
With a grunt grunt here…
And squeal squeal there…
Here a grunt…
There a grunt…
Everywhere a grunt grunt…
“Old MacDonald had farm…
E.I.E.I.O….”
THE TRIUMPH OF TOLERANCE
What is very interesting – when Muslims “offends” a cross or a Christmas tree, a cross, and Christmas tree is meekly removed. Thus deliberately humiliating Christians, while Islamic community is forming a feeling of permissiveness and contempt for the indigenous population.
When Muslims are really being insulted by publishing the abominations of their Prophet – here, instead of putting a hard stop to the provocation, the European states suddenly remember about “freedom of speech and expression” (the same rights which they deprived the Christians of).
So, thanks to the “tolerance” policy, virtually all population groups feel downtrodden.
Western Christians are just made a mockery of. They do not have any chance to defend their dignity.
Muslims, who first were invited to settle, were told about “tolerance”, and then asked to patiently tolerate mockery of the Prophet – that is to become a “post-Muslims” and begin to consider their religion as a fun game.
Offended are indigenous Nations of Europe – it does not matter, believers or atheists – people are afraid of the aggressive aliens and do not understand what all this had fallen on them.
Only homosexuals are probably happy, and that is until such time as they will be reached up by the Muslims. Then it will be no time for gay pride parades, and the most intelligent of them certainly understand that.
When the situation in Europe was already tense, Western intelligence agencies conducted an operation “Arab Spring”, destroying the secular regimes in the Middle East and the Maghreb as well as freeing a giant mass of poor and angry Muslims. As Cameron said about the bombing of Libya, “we wanted to do a good deed.” Of course, this is a comfortable position – of playing a fool. Only where billions of dollars are involved, the fools do not rule and there are no coincidences.
Who needed it?
Who purposefully and methodically pit different groups of the population in Europe, while setting fire to the Islamic world? Clearly, this is a deliberate action directed from a single center. But who are these people? Of course, we do not know exactly. Obviously, this is the world’s financial magnates, media owners, heads of major corporations – all those who are called generalized “global elite”. From the unexpected consequences of billionaires and their servants protect the army of private security guards. Perhaps these people are also conscious or unconscious executors of someone’s will, and above them there is some more powerful force, the existence of which we cannot even guess.
Why? To obtain absolute control of the crowds of frightened and confused people. Soon, voters will not ask about salary growth, freedom, and other nonsense. Their only worry is safety. And they certainly offer security. In exchange for what? For anything, even for the immortal soul…
Form of the dictatorship of the new world government would obviously be Nazism. European moral and religious foundations are undermined by the years of mockery. They could only lean on the “voice of blood” against artificially created Islamic threat.
http://dima-piterski.livejournal.com/105942.html
Too ludicrous. The Charlie Hebdos don’t allow the Right any freedom of speech. As you know, European prisons are full of people who question the so called Holocaust. The Nazis lost and the victors are trying to avoid another match by crushing out and remaining embers. Vlams Bloc, Golden Dawn, and now the National Front denied a place in the “Unity” march.
Charlie Hebdo even made fun of the Holocaust – but none of the cartoonists or editors would ever be in favor of letting the Right do so.
So by Nazi, perhaps you mean Totalitarian? Like the current Liberal Regimes of Europe? And the European Union itself? What will be their raison d’état? What do they push now? The ideology of Globalism. Humanity. The Rainbow. The new tolerant Islam they’re trying to create. The new form of Catholicism they’ve created – with Jews as “elder brothers” (I know – grotesque). Blood is way out. You must know that. Up to your old tricks again, eh Jude?
Once the Soviet Union fell, the Pentagon kept the maps of it up for years afterwards. They missed it. Likewise, you guys miss the Nazis. The current crop of Whites are utterly miserable specimens that you toy with as if they were cartoons in a video game. No challenge at all.
Nazism: Brutal police and military control of the population in the interests of merged State Bureaucracy and Corporate Cartels
Nazi was a word made up the Jews. Your wires are showing. And of course the Public and Private spheres are interconnected at higher levels – how could it be otherwise? Dumb Americans pretend that it can, be we both know better. The choice is between State Socialism where the Corporations control the State or Fascism, where the Government controls the Corporations to make sure they serve the people.
Sunday’s OffTop: Nostalgia – Europe before “tolerance”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7idHYU5HU8
Very beautiful indeed. But I wasn’t envisioning a Europe before “tolerance” (and what does that mean anyway, Nazis smashing the windows of Jewish shopkeepers in the least century?)
What I thought of when viewing this clip is the walk-around-town-center and peripheral architectural layout that JHK champions for the towns of America.
Of course, some on this site term this vision as ‘doomerism’, but clearly this type of civic environment relegates the typical America municipality to nothing more than a car polluting cacophony: boom boxes, drunken assholes stumbling out of sports bars; millionaire Wall Street phonies sitting in the front rows of a Bruce Springsteen concert as he sings about the downtrodden; piece -of-shit scumbags engaging in mall brawls.
Lost in the news
Commissioner investigating shooting in Charlie Hebdo found dead
French police commissioner Elric Fred investigate the circumstances of the attack on the editor of the French edition of Charlie Hebdo, was found dead.
This is the website of TV channel France 3, citing the statement of the police.
According to France 3, in the evening on January 9 Fred committed suicide in his office, shot from a service weapon.
http://newsweek24.com/world/1017-found-dead-commissioner-investigating-shooting-in-charlie-hebdo-10012015-video.html
Patsies for brutal Paris attack are dead already, now investigative police officers start to die.
Wow! Interesting. I guess we can say he bought the Finca.
There are a few [or many] stories online that it was Mossad.
I do not know. I am a lowly grunt.
http://henrymakow.com/2015/01/charlie-hebdo.html
First of all: this whole thing is so tragic, on so many levels, etc…
Second: Even if this was a false-flag op’ (and at this point in my life and level of direct experience, I’d put NOTHING past many different groups within the ‘Community’) it’s still an ineffectual tactical-level maneuver. It might even be less than that – more like a ‘gesture’… Imagine a weekend surfer flipping-off a tsunami-wave cresting over him…
Third: I’m sure the hoople-heads here and elsewhere will get a lot of mileage out of it. It happened at a level that they can grasp and get excited about… Sometimes it’s just nice to sit and watch the ‘kids’ play. There’s something restful and very settling about it.
Actually FitM, it’s this little death-list here, that holds greater fascination for me:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-07/riddles-surround-36th-dead-banker-year
Sounds like a Zionist false flag after all. Good work Finc.
Anyone here ever live in France? The women blow you before they kiss you…..and never eat in a restaurant as they routinely spit in the food of Americans and Germans. They even have a name for it….”ranch dressing”. Loogie cordon bleu, snot souffle, a fine flem mousse for dessert anyone?
I’ve been a few times, visiting relatives.
It behooves you to keep a low profile, that’s true.
Don’t wear that T shirt with the screaming eagle clutching an M-16 hovering over the globe, emblazoned with an American Flag and USA in bold letters, and on the back a Confederate Flag overlaid with images of Lee, Davis, and Stonewall Jackson.
You might attract unwanted attention.
brh
I’ve heard much of France is Ok, just not Paris or the big tourist cities.
Do they really spit in the food?
I never had any problems there.
One time on a train outside Toulouse an old guy started muttering about President Bush. That was it.
brh
The NatGas Arithmetic
Essentially, the picture is as follows. In 7 years, by 2021, Europe will begin to form a new gas shortage in the amount of up to one third of the total annual demand. (Due to depleting of Norwegian fields). And just not ANY gas, but CHEAP gas that only Russia could supply. Apparently, this is what prompted the United States to implement the project “Ukraine, Maidan version 2.0.”
Europe understands this perspective. After 7 years, Russia’s share in the European gas consumption has the potential to reach 50%. That is exactly why Brussels began forming a new system of European gas purchases. Its main goal is to form the single European gas buyer, which “Gazprom” will have to deal with. And not with each country as it is today. On the one hand, this should improve the overall political stability of the EU. On the other – let equalize gas prices for all EU countries and lower their total value. For now, each country has its own contract with Russia for gas supply. Macedonia pays $564.3 per 1 thousand cubic meters, Poland – $525.5, Bosnia – $515, Czech Republic – $503, Bulgaria – $501, Greece – $427, United Kingdom – $313, France – $393, Germany – $379.
However, no matter how it goes in Brussels, for the United States, this scenario means the collapse of the idea of the Trans-Atlantic trade union. Washington could not possibly offer energy prices below the Russian levels. Like in NEVER. In this case, no matter how much Europeans resisted it, at 50-60% dependence on Russian gas the drift of Europe toward Moscow is inevitable. To stop it is like trying to stop the rotation of the Earth. And the natural consequence of this convergence will be increased volume of trade, and hence the consolidation of all sorts of different “not only economic” ties. Hence – the inevitable separation of Europe from the United States. That will in turn lead to a complete loss of American influence on the whole Euro-Asian continent. For the US, it actually means global geopolitical funeral.
The only thing that could stop that scenario from developing is total destruction of Russia with the aim of taking under control Russian oil and gas fields. Or, alternatively, to create in Russia a level of instability that is in Ukraine, led to the destruction of infrastructure and irreparable reduction in the volume of deliveries. Then Europe will have nowhere to go. This explains the entire US strategy, as well as a sharp escalation of the US-Russian standoff.
The US simply does not have time. There are only 7 years left. The countdown is already underway. So in 2015 we should expect the most desperate attempts to organize Maidan in Russia. Well, it is not the first time Russia has to face external aggression. Most importantly, Russians now know the answers to key questions: who, what, and why.
CNAS, the democratic version of conquest imperialism
While Washington has no foreign policy, but several contradictory and simultaneous policies, “liberal hawks” have formed around General David Petraeus and the Center for a New American Security. Thierry Meyssan spotlights this think tank which now plays the role formerly devolved to the Project for a New American Century in the Bush era: promoting expansionist imperialism and world domination.
The Syrian crisis, which had already been solved by the first conference in Geneva in June 2012, continues despite all the agreements negotiated with the United States. Clearly, the Obama administration does not obey its leader, but is divided between two political lines: one favourable to the imperialist division of the world with China and possibly Russia (President Obama’s position) and, on the other hand, the expansionist imperialists (gathered around Hillary Clinton and General David Petraeus).
To everyone’s surprise, the ouster of the CIA Director and the Secretary of State during the re-election of Barack Obama has not ended the division of the administration, but has exacerbated it.
Once again, the expansionist imperialists have revived the war against the People’s Republic of Korea, under the pretext of a cyber attack against Sony Pictures attributed to Pyongyang against all logic. President Obama ultimately agreed with their discourse and signed a “sanctions” decree.
It seems that supporters of imperial expansion have first regrouped to create the Center for a New American Security, which played in the Democratic Party a role equivalent to that of the Project for a New American Century (and today of the Foreign Policy Initiative) within the Republican Party. As such, they played an important role during the first term of Barack Obama and, for some, have integrated the deep state from whence they continue to pull the strings.
Liberal hawks
The Center for a New American Security (CNAS) was established in 2007 by Kurt Campbell and Michele A. Flournoy.
These two intellectuals had previously worked together at the Center for Strategic and International Studies CSIS). Two months after the attacks of 11 September 2001, they had edited: “To Prevail: An American Strategy for the Campaign Against Terrorism. The book explained the decision of President Bush to attack not only terrorist groups but also states that support them, and even failed states who failed to fight them on their soil. Inspired by the CSIS work of the Task Force on Terrorism, he advocated a considerable development of the intelligence agencies to monitor the world. In short, Campbell and Flournoy agreed with the official narrative of the attacks and justify the “war on terror” that would cast a pall over the world for over a decade.
The originality of CNAS is that it is a Democrat think tank that collaborates with and integrates Republican hawks. It also multiplies meetings and discussions with members of the Project for a New American Century. It is funded by arms manufacturers or providers of Defense (Accenture Federal Services, BAE Systems, Boeing, DRS Technologies, Northrop Grumman), financial (Bernard L. Schwartz Investments, Prudential Financial), foundations (Carnegie Corporation of New York, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, Ploughshares Fund, Smith Richardson Foundation, Zak Family Charitable Trust) and foreign governments (Israel, Japan, Taiwan).
The current officers
– General John Allen, commander of the anti-Daeh Coalition
– Richard Armitage, former deputy secretary of state,
– Richard Danzig, vice president of the Rand Corporation,
– Joseph Lieberman, former Israeli spokesman in the Senate,
– General James Mattis, former commander of CentCom.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article186381.html
Some years back I saw the CFR Journal [Foreign Affairs].
I glanced at the cover and saw a story by General Mc Namara.
The title was something like ‘Population Control’.
Who better to know about that than he?
CFR has openly stated it wants the world to have a billion people. But w robotics the ‘One Percent’ needs far less than that.
Hello FitM/CFN!
As I mentioned, we need to exercise even more than usual caution assessing China’s resources and projected impact; there’s a reason that capital has been fleeing the mainland, and the signals and hard-data (like electricity use) coming out of the PRC have been trending in certain direction for *some* time now. I’m not trying to skeet-shoot the ideas of others, I’m just announcing what I and others are seeing.
Outta control?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-11/fed-losing-if-not-already-lost-control
Take-away quote:
“Remember, China is the repository of preordained data points. Preordained as in “it is what they say it will be. Regardless of factual evidence.” They’re now continually reporting a declining GDP rate. And they don’t care if the numbers are real. Yet, they are willing to print contraction? What does that tell you at first blush? So much for China saving the economy meme I guess.”
Massive shindig in Paris in the wake of terror attacks.
Shouldn’t these kind of celebrations occur after the battle is won?
This war is just getting started. Not the time for celebration, and ‘unity’ with an enemy that is trying to destroy you.
–brh
The battle may be won: they have the French back behind the Zionists and perhaps ready to do battle in the Middle East and/or Africa against Islam. And the Muslims keep pouring in since as Hollande said, the bombing had nothing to do with Islam. The people who disagree with this analysis and want to save France and Europe are banned from the event. So what’s not to love?
Generation Identitaire had the best rejoinder to “I am Charlie” – I am Charlie Martel.
You Tube. RamZPaul.
His latest. where he sings and holds the candle.
The owner of this blog does not like videos posted, so I wont post a link.
Ramz revealed that he’s part Jewish a while back. Thus his viewpoint is compromised.
I consider Judaism to be a religion. Hence no one is ‘part’ Jewish.
“Actually FitM, it’s this little death-list here, that holds greater fascination for me:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-07/riddles-surround-36th-dead-banker-year” — Mr.Darling
May be that could shed some light:
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, many financiers working for the Central Committee of the Communist Party(CPSU) went out the window one by one.
– August 26, 1991 out of the window of the ninth floor Managing Director of the Central Committee of the CPSU, the main financier of the party Nikolay Kruchina, (which, together with the Foreign Intelligence Colonel Leonid Veselovsky involved in pumping the party funds to the West through front companies, including the companies of international swindler Boris Birstein);
– October 6, 1991 out of the window of the eighth floor of the Central Committee of the Communist Party George Pavlov (former business manager of the CPSU to N.Kruchiny);
– October 17, 1991 from the window of his apartment on the fourteenth floor jumped deputy head of the International Department of the CPSU Central Committee Dmitry Lissovolik. He did not leave a note explaining his action.
According to official figures, over a thousand people one way or another involved in the financial activity of the CPSU, have committed suicide from late August to October 1991. For many years, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union carried out financial assistance to foreign communist parties, paying their bills.
No money in the accounts of the Communist Party subsequently was found.
Detail knowledge of large funds movements could be hazardous to your health.
I’ve been a few times, visiting relatives.
Williams is a nice French name. Did you get Ira Einhorn’s autograph when you were there? The French were quite hospitable to him — and he was a Jew — a murdering Jew at that, yet they rolled out the red carpet and refused to extradite him for the longest time. I wonder if the hypocrites at Charlie Einhorn did a satirical expose on him to include crude, quasi-pornographic cartoons? I bet they didn’t, and yet he is perfect fodder for it and a skewering of the morally bankrupt Left. What a shame. I never saw any protests for Holly Maddux like we saw for Michael Brown. No Justice for Holly posters. No Je Suis Holly Maddux Twitter campaigns. The French are real pips. F*ck em. Let them eat pork.
I’m surprised that Ira Einhorn case is still remembered.
Wasn’t he shielded by Arlen Spector? The French had an issue with the death penalty
Eventually, Einhorn was returned to the US to face justice.
brh
Criminal charges recommended against Petraeus
WASHINGTON — Federal prosecutors are recommending that retired Army Gen. David Petraeus face criminal charges for passing classified information to his former mistress, Paula Broadwell, according to two U.S. officials.
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2015/01/09/justice-recommends-felony-charges-against-former-gen-petraeus/21525859/
So, did Petraeus again go against White House and Obama? That “mistress story” is as old as Moses. Is it possible that Petraeus is somehow involved in Charlie Hebdo shooting? Why Obama didn’t go to Paris “big solidarity” show?
One of CNN commentators in real time called Obama’s decision not to go “disrespectful“.
Any thoughts?
cool
Janos,
They spit in your food and worse…..the frogs hate everyone not speaking french…..they are even ruder than JewYorkers……
“several contradictory and simultaneous policies, “liberal hawks” have formed around General David Petraeus” –Finca
That won’t last long. Petraeus is on his way to doing hard time in prison.
In a meantime while all this “piece rally” going on in Paris, Ukraine resumed artillery shelling of Donetsk, residential districts mostly. Casualties among civilians – there are no hard numbers yet, but definitely by far exceeding number of people killed in Paris.
But that’s just “drunken Russians”, so who gives….
It appears that both events – hastily put together terror event in Paris and artillery shelling of Donetsk are links of the same chain – to disrupt a piece conference on Ukraine in Astana, Kazakhstan scheduled for January 15, where top diplomats from France, Germany, Russia and Ukraine are invited to peace talks by Kazakh leader and President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev.
Germany and France cast doubt on Jan. 15 Ukraine summit – http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/05/us-ukraine-crisis-hollande-idUSKBN0KE0QB20150105
So far, the “Party of War” is winning.
Did someone ever spit into you mother’s face in front of you? Posted nude pictures of your sister on the internet? Took a shit on your grandfather’s medals?
Charlie Hebdo «journalists» did all that professionally for years. They even got paid.
Therefore today:
° I am — Syrian;
° I am — Odessite burned alive in Trade Unions House;
° I am — Palestinian boy suffocating beneath ruins of my own house in Gaza;
° I am — Jewish granny killed by unguided rocket;
° I am — five years old Arseny, torn to pieces by mortar shell launched by Ukrainian army in Slavyansk. Last thing I’ve seen before I went blind — my mother dying to let me live for six more hours;
° I am — cab driver, mechanic, miner, factory worker from Donetsk protecting my family from Ukrainian neonazis invasion;
° I am — tortured Guantanamo abductee. No lawyer, no trial — my relatives don’t even know I’m still alive;
° I am — Cuban rotting away in secret CIA prison in a random country. Maybe it is even yours, I do not know;
° I am — teenager killed by USA cop without warning, because cop «felt threatened»;
° I am — one of the innocent French policemen killed on 7th of January.
But I am NOT your fucking Charlie!
Not today, not ever.
The Rothschild Charade
The influential magazine “The Economist”, that belongs to the Rothschild family, came out with a very cryptic cover making predictions for 2015. Here is URL of the cover in high resolution:
https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/economist_magazine_jan2015.jpg
Make what you want out of it. Here are just a few things:
1. The image of The Pied Piper on the left – remember the guy who took away the Hamelin’s children (The Future) as punishment for not keeping the word and not paying his dues.
2. The Panda in Chineese-flag shorts – ready to kick some sh*t
3. Miniature figure of Japanese sumo-fighter holding oversize battery – Japan energy problems?
Napoleon (Long and Hot European Wars) and Winston Churchill (symbol of Cold War) joined the crowd of modern head of states and prominent politicians.
The Piggy bank flying out of David Cameron pocket – coming England’s financial troubles?
And much, much more…
Yes, it is featured at ‘Vigilant Citizen’.
That won’t last long. Petraeus is on his way to doing hard time in prison.
He’s been Bob Todded. The prisons should be emptied of all non-violent drug offenders and loaded back up with every single individual inside the Beltway, the State Capitals and City Halls. So what if a few innocent ones get caught up in that dragnet. They should have known better than to cast their lot with scum.
But I am NOT your fucking Charlie!
Not today, not ever.
Somedays I think you’re Boris Yeltsin back from the grave — he’s Charlie on steroids without even trying.
I notice you don’t have a Je Suis Alexander Litvinenko on your list or a Je Suis Anna Stepanovna Politkovskaya. They don’t count?
Or better yet, how about Je Suis Katry-Yurt?
Russian Atrocities In Chechnya
this is a test.