State of the Union


   The fog of chatter about Federal Reserve money-printing shenanigans, currency wars, fiscal intransigence, exchange rates, and alphabetized rescue operations conceals the central reality of the historical moment: that all industrial economies now face epic contraction, even rip-roaring China in its absurd and spectacular bid to become the latest drive-in utopia. The so-called advanced nations of the world are all sliding toward something less than they wish to be, and the so-called developing nations will backslide further into poverty and anarchy where development will never happen.
     The implacable contraction underway is the simple result of growing scarcity of cheap oil, the master resource. Thus, in a world where fantasy has replaced analysis, the propaganda channels brim with false news of America's coming "energy independence" and the rebirth of domestic manufacturing, the coming electric car fleet, and space tourism. There is also chatter among the paranoid that an imagined elite has deliberately engineered American collapse for fun and profit, with sideshows about the Department of Homeland Security promoting social upheaval in order to make a show of putting it down. This is all bullshit concealing the futile machinations of people so unfortunate as to hold political office in an unraveling they can't control. Where control is no longer possible, paranoid fantasies fill the vacuum of wishing for control.
     One thing you can be sure of: the current sociopolitical weather will change. A front will blow through and sweep the fog away. So many circles of hazard are spinning around events that some fast-turning object will come off its axis and start smashing all the fantasies. When that happens, it will be every community for itself, and where there are no real communities -- for instance, the vast matrix of suburban noplaces that America emergently composed itself out of in a tragic quest to become its own televised fantasy -- we'll discover the dark side of the "liberty" that so-called conservatives endlessly invoke, in all its screaming eagle iconography.
    Not since the Civil War (1861 - 65) has anything bad of this scale happened within the United States itself and the public is unprepared despite our total immersion in the on-screen ersatz heroics of avatars such as Dwayne Johnson. The terrible convulsion of the 1860s was preceded by a political time much like ours is now, with figures (calling them leaders is inaccurate) of no conviction backpedaling furiously toward strife.
     Remember these things if you tune in to watch President Obama move his lips on Tuesday amid the incessant applause in the House chamber. He'll speak the words "climate change" and the hall will rock with thunderous handclapping -- but it won't mean anything because both the president and the people have no intention of changing the way we live. Mr. Obama will cheerlead for economic growth and he will be talking out of his ass. It's the nature of this contraction that economic growth is absent. You can have plenty of economic activity -- especially if you re-form (literally) the systems we depend on, such as farming, commerce, medicine, and transportation -- but it won't be expressed favorably in the GDP stats or the balance sheets of CitiGroup and Morgan Stanley.
     At the core of this contraction is the disappearing act of real capital -- that is, accumulated wealth -- for the excellent reason that we are squandering what remains of it in the futile effort to keep living the way we do. But it will be vanishing fast, contrary to the view of such fantasists as David Leonhardt, Washington bureau chief of The New York Times -- catch him on the current Slate Political Gabfest -- who thinks that the Growth Fairy is about to land on the south lawn of the White House.
     The State of the Union Address is happening in a peculiar quiet moment when all the financial brushfires of the time have been reduced temporarily to a smolder that conceals the full involvement of the roots under the surface. Our economic system is burning down. Nobody wants to talk about the system that will have to replace it, which I call a world made by hand.
     The fortunate few will be those who have already established themselves in an authentic community of helping hands, who have some tools -- and I don't mean Adobe Photoshop or the latest iPhone app -- and laid in some bits of silver and gold. 
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The state of the union is now disunion. There's really nothing much else to say about it and any politician trying to pretend otherwise is living a fantasy or telling a lie. We are well on our way to the collapse of our civilization from too much overreach.

Visit the Leibowitz Society at http://leibowitzsociety.blogspot.com/2013/02/edge-of-reality.html for more information and discussion about our coming Dark Age, as well as how to prepare for it.

Both the president and the people have no intention of changing the way we live. Mr. Obama will cheerlead for economic growth and he will be talking out of his ass.

To lie is bad, to lie with power, despicable.

Not since the Civil War (1861 - 65) has anything bad of this scale happened within the United States itself...


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I don't know. Many claim overpopulation is THE problem, and the Civil War was a great way to reduce the population. In fact, had they dragged it out another decade, they very well may have reduced the population of the United States at the time by fifty percent. Therefore, what is needed is another "bad thing" to mitigate the worst thing, namely a new Civil War to reduce the population. Otherwise, the Plutocrats will implement their own plan that may also involve a Civil War, but one at their behest, and not at the behest of Unwashed.

I knew you couldn't resist the State of the Union Address to give one of your own. Too bad I didn't make a prediction like I did about the Super Bowl blackout. That came true; you mentioned it. As for your assessment, yes, this crisis is in some ways worse than the combined Great Depression/WWII and could reach Civil War proportions. The difference is that the Democrats and Republicans have switched sides. Also, this is more an urban-rural split than a North-South one. Just the same, it's a recipe for disaster. I've found that whenever things go wrong, one of the first things that happens is that people blame their old enemies, regardless of who or what is really at fault.

I haven't touched the State of the Union Address at all, but I did blog twice about the Super Bowl blackout. I also wrote a lot about Nemo, the storm, not the fish or noble villain, the gas price rollercoaster, sex and love, and cats. Yes, cats, which are apparently a bigger threat to small wildlife than even the most die-hard fans of cats as mousers know. Doesn't matter to me, I'm keeping my cats.

Finally, Happy Year of the Snake and Happy Motoring--for now--from Detroit!

http://crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/

Talk about wish full thinking, Yahoo news has today a nice story about the forthcoming US High Speed Rail Network to be built by 2020, and will only cost $1-2 Trillion,

also Jim don't forget to lay in some non hybrid heirloom seeds in the mix, otherwise your garden tools will only be good for one growing season.

Jim, enjoy reading your commentary on Monday morns, or whenever I get around to it, and even the first few hours or so of comments posted on subject are interesting. After Monday eve, well, not so much.

It still amazes me when I read in US publications about US energy "independence", and how the US is exporting petrol products, ignoring that facts that can be found on their own CIA Factbook that the US not only consumes the largest amounts of petrol, but consumes more than Europe and Asia combined, and the so-called exports are only finished products derived from crude shipped here by So. American countries that can't refine it them selves. The shear dis-ingeniousness of even claiming this as an export shows how corrupt the news media is, as well as the thinking that goes on behind it all.

As for the developing countries, well, we won't have as far to fall as the US will when the oil runs out, most people here will just park the SUV and saddle up the horse and go about their business, but at a much slower pace in a new hand-made world, not unlike the way they did things only 10-20 years ago.

Keep up the post Jim, and thanks.
Dee

Can't really disagree with any of the above concepts that Jim has laid out. But, despite the fact that the world made by hand is in the future. What comes before that, and what no one really wants to talk about is WORLD MADE BY BLOOD. We are a delusional national of highly entitled whiners and takers, in the main, and when our toys are no longer useful, when the govmint food cards no longer work, when the grocery shelves are empty and we must feed ourselves, etc, etc., the shit will truly "hit the fan," and the gloves come off.

Lock and load. Unless of course you want to be one of the liberal robotic weenies with a sign in your front yard reading, "Gun Free home and proud of it." That way the hungry masses will know where to go first for food, sex and whatever they want.
:)

Jim I do have to wonder why, as reported by Investors Business daily that the Department of Homeland Security just placing another order for an additional 21.6 million rounds. on top of the more than 1.6 billion they have already stockpiled. They say it is for training, but as IBD says
"They must be pretty poor shots."

IBD further says that "To provide some perspective, experts estimate that at the peak of the Iraq war American troops were firing around 5.5 million rounds per month. At that rate, DHS is armed now for a 24-year Iraq war."


which I call a world made by hand.

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The Greeks are one step ahead of us in building that world by hand. Instead of relying on the corrupt, unfunded and gutted utilities, they are building their own fires with real wood to keep themselves warm, the forests be damned.

Certainly overpopulation is key to understanding what is about to happen. The human race has convieniently ignored the generally well proven laws of ecology that govern all living species, at least on this planet. Primary to this is the fact that weather and climate limit populations from ever reaching maximum numbers of individuals, thwarting exponetial increase. We, however, as brother Kunstler has pointed out on numerous occasions, have had the luxury of beating the odds, albeit only temporarily, by intrusive and liberal infusions of very cheap oil. (Think about this the next time you turn up the heat on a cold winter night) We are so far over what would normally be a fairly level and stable population (without cheap oil) that the drastic population correction facing us is simply unthinkable. Reality does not care about our American Dream aspirations or that we consider ourselves a 'Christian nation', blessed by God. Have fun storming the castle!!!

Hey Jim, great take on the world. I think I'm that guy you describe at the end, but in the context of what you suggest, I'm sure any of us are going to have much fun. Well, at least we can share what we're learned! http://www.cammather.com/

Sounds about right to me.

"to lie is bad"

So what? All politicians lie. They don't want the people to know the truth. Because we can't handle it.

I was alerted by a source that I don't trust (Benjamin Fulford), that a dual US currency has arisen, and this was confirmed by a source I do trust (a personal friend engaged in international commerce). Apparently, dollars issued overseas are being accepted as international currency, but dollars issued and circulating in America are increasingly not. People returning to Japan from America, for example, and attempting to exchange their dollars are being told they cannot. I learned this just a few days ago and have not been able to find anything on the Net about it yet. I guess most travelers just use plastic, and the Japanese are stoic. They are told there is a problem with counterfeits. Fulford speculates that this is overseas banks' reaction to the Fed's massive printing of dollars.

I wonder if the real reason Pope Benedict XVI resigned was because he doesn't want to be in office when everything starts falling apart?

"The President will cheerlead for "economic growth"..."

It's true - and the people will buy it, at least tentatively. They hope against hope, thus proving that the larger the flock the more sheepish its members. It's human nature. We work well enough in concert within the clan or tribal context, but not so well on the larger 'civilized' scale. Hierarchies become too insular, and the collective narrative too general - too abstract: "Pax Roma", "the thousand-year Reich", "democracy's last best hope", "drill, baby, drill"; and let us not forget that State of the Union classic, "America's best days lie ahead!"

All drivel of course. Jesus summed it up nicely when he said, "my people swallow a camel but chock on a gnat". Two thousand years later Hitler echoed this sentiment, "tell the people the big lie; they will believe the big lie over the small one".

I highly recommend reading Ju lian Ass..ange's new book "Cypherpunks" if one wants to understand the future of the Internet.

It looks like a future of total surveillance, which Assange defines as to..tal itar,,ian.

There will be more "communication", but because of sur,,veill ance "communication" will be what Ass ange describes as "degraded".

At some point, one may start to hope for Collapse.

I heard something similar from a close friend, a very honest and straight shooting retired physician, who just returned from Europe. In several countries, he could not use USDs that he carried with him from here to Europe, but he could use his plastic to get money out of their banks and ATMS and "exchange" was allowed. Agree about Ben Fulford, strange enigmatic guy.

Wardoc

Well put.

Everyone makes fun of Republicans with their delusional thinking (rape won't cause pregnancy, evolution is a myth, etc) but the lies the Democrats tell themselves are just as numerous and pernicious. They're just harder to spot because so many of them are 'conventional wisdom' at this point. I'm ready to throw things at the tv when MSNBC's commentators come on to chirpily announce that the US is exporting oil, or cheerlead for Obama for repeating the '100 years of natural gas' lie.

http://moveforchangebkculturejam.wordpress.com/2013/01/28/sht-many-democrats-believe/

Mr. K, you say:
"One thing you can be sure of: the current sociopolitical weather will change. A front will blow through and sweep the fog away. So many circles of hazard are spinning around events that some fast-turning object will come off its axis and start smashing all the fantasies. When that happens, it will be every community for itself, and where there are no real communities -- for instance, the vast matrix of suburban noplaces that America emergently composed itself out of in a tragic quest to become its own televised fantasy -- we'll discover the dark side of the "liberty" that so-called conservatives endlessly invoke, in all its screaming eagle iconography."

That is really an excellent envisioning of an abstract thought/striving that will turn out to have real-world consequences. Nicely done, as per usual.

I had commented on the latest milking scheme of Celente's "white-shoe boys" buying up water rights on a grand scale. Someone laid out to me how this is going to go, and it's an apt vision of the modern way of corporate behavior:

1.) They'll buy up the ownership of "water systems".
2.) Immediately raise the price.
Grumpy customers will complain, but it's still almost affordable.
3.) Prices will be raised again and again. (Incrementally; the boiling frog.)
4.) Prices reach the tipping point where real threats of stout ropes and neck-stretching come to the fore.
5.) The white-shoe boys scamper out of town with bulging carpetbags, having ever done a stitch of infrastructure maintenance, other than a few patches on completely failed parts.
6.) They intend to trade these "financial instruments" for an Italian villa, complete with servants, an unending stream of high-end call girls, and mind-boggling comforts, luxury and gadgets, forever and ever, amen.

Then I thought, "Yes, quite so, BUT, #6 may prove to be the monkey-wrench in the grand plan."
Who is going to honor this pile of paperwork and electronic bytes? How much longer are they going to be considered "representational" of actual hard assets? Much questionable faith and trust is required.

I think that's where the rubber is going to meet the road... the road will turn out to be impassable and the bridge will be out.

Many countries will not accept US dollars of certain denominations, or if they are too 'old', or too 'new' looking (possible fake).
Also, many merchants will not accept dollars if it means that THEY have to take them to a bank to exchange them, thus getting stuck with an exchange fee. So they will only accept the 'local' currency. Travelers should have no problems exchanging dollars at a bank, for example, or in using thier debit or credit cards.
This is a non-story, which someone is trying to conflate into something it is not.

Dee (in Costa Rica)

The truth hurts. But a good way to start the week,Jim. Nice Job on the Podcast!! One of the best first time podcasts I have heard. Welcome back. We all owe Aaron Swartz.RIP little brother.

I hear he has a nice little villa at Auschwitz with a fantastic view of the location where the Crematoriums once stood. He will spend his last days there, fondly stroking Der Fuehrer's little worn Bavarian hunting cap. The one with the feather in it. The villa is tastefully decorated and highlights his Zyklon B canister collection.

"He'll speak the words "climate change" and the hall will rock with thunderous handclapping -- but it won't mean anything because both the president and the people have no intention of changing the way we live."

Indeed. I'll be heading down to D.C. next Sunday to join the Keystone XL protest. From what I hear, he's currently inclined to approve that pipeline, which, according to 350.org, is one of the 10 world energy mega-projects that will completely sink the climate if that carbon gets released. As much as I'd like to, I don't think we can count on an economic crash happening in time to slow down the energy companies; they always seem to find a way.

I'll let you know how it goes, here:

http://thewayback.drupalgardens.com

Again, in most places that are US tourist destinations, or have a large tourist population, they are able to deal with dollars and the exchanges at the local banks, so most big merchants have no problems accepting dollars.

However, it you are off the beaten path, or in some small, non-touristy town, the local merchants may not want to pay the exchange fees for converting dollars back into the local currency for thier daily use.

You can use your debit/credit card to take money from your home bank account in the LOCAL currency, and depending on the bank, you may pay only a small conversion fee.

In most Central & South American countries, the dollar is readily accepted in most large cites. You may only run into a hesitation to accept them if you are in a small town where it may cost the local merchant to take them to the bank for conversion to local currency, in which case they will ask you to pay with credit or debit, or do an exchange at the local bank.

Again, this is a non-story,
Dee

"Can't really disagree with any of the above concepts that Jim has laid out. But, despite the fact that the world made by hand is in the future. What comes before that, and what no one really wants to talk about is WORLD MADE BY BLOOD. We are a delusional national of highly entitled whiners and takers, in the main, and when our toys are no longer useful, when the govmint food cards no longer work, when the grocery shelves are empty and we must feed ourselves, etc, etc., the shit will truly "hit the fan," and the gloves come off." -wardoc

Wanna hear a good one that indicates the entitled (and lazy) mindset of "da populace"?
A commentator on NPR couldn't get out to get to work because of the snow. She begged and wheedled the snow-blower operator not to further bury her car (while he was clearing the street). He did her this favor and then she said that she didn't feel like digging her car out today.

WTF?? Does she think that some chivalrous soul is going to come along and do it FOR her? I can't abide lazy takers and users like this non-contributor in a time of emergency. They are not going to last long when the shit REALLY starts; this storm is just a tiny glimpse of things to come, and I have no intention of helping those who have no intention of helping themselves (except to other peoples labor and misplaced compassion).

The truth hurts. But a good way to start the week,Jim. Nice Job on the Podcast!! One of the best first time podcasts I have heard. Welcome back. We all owe Aaron Swartz.RIP little brother.

It may be true that in Greece people are burning furniture and books to stay warm, but the USA is not Greece and never will be. The economy is no more likely to collapse than zombies taking over. Even if we get sequestration, which we won’t, the GOP wants the US to spend more money on building tanks (although the US Military does NOT want more tanks according to the report on CBS’ 60 Minutes) and where would they get their lobbyist loot if there are no more excess tanks? Also if we stop handing out food cards, little kids go hungry. So do the poor white trash break out their assault weapons and go kill their next door neighbors who grow and can food? Probably not. Too busy looting the liquor store of all their beer! PWT have their priorities and lots of kids are too fat anyway.

The world has been going to hell in a handbag since the Bible was written. Still we are here relatively safe and warm – despite 9/11, Nemo, Hurricane Sandy, Y2K, 2008 Financial Meltdown. We’ll just make do. And even if all the oil vanishes overnight, we always have good old fashioned backs to do whatever labor we need. Whether its digging up the backyard to grow a Victory Garden or bicycling to our minimum wage jobs, we’ll be OK. And a lot of us will actually feel lucky and grateful that no matter what we have our families, our friends and our neighbors to look out for each other. And that beats money in the bank or oil at the pump.

I am always amused by the fools who think they will be safe because they own a gun - or a hundred. You can "lock and load" 24/7, but a single sniper can take you out any time you open your door. And good luck when the local warlord arrives at your place with ten gun nuts who follow his orders.

Phew!

Alls I can say is Amen to that, Jim.

Just one point, though. Up in Windsor, Ct, one of those Dollar Store type outfits that import cheap junk from China and sells it here at a discount is building a One Million Square Ft. Warehouse, ontop of some the most productive farmland in the United
states, with swag provided by our bankrupt State Govt. as a part of some Economic Development Scheme. By law they have to pay 'prevailing union wages' so laborers are pulling down $40 per hour, which I think is the point of the project to begin with. So yes, this place is getting wobbly, endgame might be just down the road, but we have to get this warehouse up and running fist!

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Good summary for now. The snow blizzard and hurricaine sandy are metaphors for the real state of the union.

I was doing a bit of light reading last night, and a sentence jumped out at me:

"He [Marx] argues that a core requirement of a capitalist society is that a large portion of the population must not possess sources of self-sustenance that would allow them to be independent, and must instead be compelled, to survive, to sell their labor for a living wage."

Whether the industrialization of our agricultural sector was mostly forced (say through policies implemented by Ag Secretery Earl Butz and others) or mostly an inevitable consequence of the growth of cities and all the promises they hold -- opportunities for obtaining wealth through innovation, entrepreneurship, and massive networking; a wider range of enticing consumer products and entertainment; just the general thrill that comes from being within the energy field of thousands of people gathered closely together -- the result would seem to be the same: We have become mostly a nation of laborers-for-hire who have lost most of the skills (and the land) that provided our forebears with the means to live independent, self-sustaining lifestyles. Paul Harvey's God-made Farmer went out with the buggy whip. Meanwhile, the greater portion of the wealth we drones create gets siphoned off to further feed the machinery of capitalist growth and further fatten the purses of the privileged few who hold the reins.

Should the whole thing happen to blow up, that would so suck for a lot of people, and not just the fat cats at the top. Still, seeing stuff blow up does have a certain appeal. If I've watched the Mount St. Helens footage once, I'll bet I've watched it a hundred times. The Tsar bomb is another one that never gets old. Beauty and horror combined, in massive doses. In "Talking WWIII Blues", Bob Dylan noted: "...Now it seems everbody's seeing them dreams. Everybody sees theirself walking around with no one else". The Cuban Missile Crisis had a big impact on my 7-year-old psyche, and I totally related to that song the first time I heard it, raised as I had been under the nuclear sword of Damocles. Nowadays I don't see myself so much as the protagonist in that story. More like the "Vancouver, Vancouver, THIS IS IT" guy. Hit me. I'm ready for whatever's next.

I do worry about my kids, tho.

"The shear dis-ingeniousness of even claiming this as an export shows how corrupt the news media is."

A very good point !!

Benedict was elected by American cardinals voting as a block. or so I believe. Pres. GW Bush stayed in Rome for three days after the funeral of John Paul, seeing the sights, touring aintiquities, visiting museums and maybe taking in a performance at the renowned Music Academy of Santa Cecelia. We all know what a refined and cultured fellow our esteemed former president is, right.

I imagine, speculation only, that what was promised was repeal of Roe vs. Wade, which Republicans have NEVER intended to accomplish. R. officials and their business paymasters do have girlfriends, after all, and sometimes the occasional little problem does arise.

Reasons for this morning's announcement will no doubt emerge eventually.

I do think there are two things which are pretty clear at the present time:

The alliance between RW evangelicals, Republican business interests and conservative Catholics is over. Conservatives never could win elections without Catholic voters.

We will very likely have a third world Pope, possibly a man from Africa.

I suspect that US govt. operatives will find that they have little or no influence on this conclave.

I've seen videos of this Fulford guy on youtube - he often comes off as an unbalanced nutcase. New age writer David Wilcock and his cultic followers have embraced this Fulford guy completely.

Dave and Fulford believe that Asian "secret societies" in conjunction with a US military coup are going to take down the "New World Order Illuminati" blah blah blah, or something like that - I listen to such people For Entertainment Purposes Only, though their wild speculating does not preclude them getting a few things right.

Just remember, they have a hungry audience that needs to be constantly fed with conspiracies and counter-conspiracies to keep them tuning in. Dave pushes aliens and a new Golden Age just around the corner, and of course he presents himself as one of the Stars in this Dramatic Narrative, claiming he has all kinds of Inside Information and etc.

The more contraction, James; the more real tools we need, along with the imagination to use them properly. Sandy kC

Yessir,
Milk it for all it's worth!
See what I mean about the carpetbaggers sneaking out of town in the dead of night, while "duh populace" fall upon one another in a frenzy of revenge for ancient/manufactured slights and insults?

Believe it or no, Stephen King outlined this very well (and entertainingly) in "Needful Things". It's a theme he returns to time and time again. ...That's because it exposes the darkness that really does lurk within; it rings a doleful and hyper-resonant bell we'd rather not acknowledge.

Get 'er up and running; it'll make a fine facility for warehousing humans when the plastic shit bid'nez goes bust. (Until the flat roof fails, that is. Then it's just a big, crumbling box of wasted sheet metal, iron pipe and copper wiring, etc.) Repurpose, recycle, reuse. Why, it's the "employment" of the future; a "growth industry" if you will!

Did anyone catch Bill Maher's panel discussion about the difficulties about building advanced infrastructure in this country? I felt like giving up right then and there!

According to Nostradamus and Saint Malachy the 268th pope will be the last Pope, Benedict is number 267.

Timing, guys. I think Malthus will have proven correct with his prediction, but he got the timing way wrong.

The current state of human society can probably be sustained for at least a couple more decades, thanks to the unlocking of unconventional oil and gas supplies.

Unfortunately, both major political factions will rationalize why there is no need to use that as a transitional period for the post-oil age. Conservatives will simply claim we can keep the oil flowing indefinitely, and progressives will cling to their delusion that solar power can replace fossil fuels in the forseeable future.

It is widely believed that the last pope of the Catholic Church will succeed Pope Benedict XVI. Many people believe that we are in "the end times." That the signs are all around us. St. Malachy, (d. 1148) Irish Bishop and Seer, produced an accurate list of future popes which began with Pope Celestine II in the year 1143. His list consists of a single line which gives a clue to the characteristics of each pope. From this list of 112 popes there is to be just one more after Pope Benedict XVI. His predictions regarding the popes have been for the most part pretty accurate regarding the identifying characteristics that each line reveals. St. Malachy doesn't give any predictions or information about what happens after the last pope. However, according to other seers, we will have arrived at the end times.

......hmmmmmm....interesting.

Will The January Effect Get Swallowed By The Snake? – The ever-alert Jim Brown, over at Option Investor, notes that the year of the snake is historically the least bullish of the twelve signs in the Asian zodiac. The prior snake (2001) saw a loss of 13.1% after losing 28% at one point. In the snake before that (1989), the S&P did manage a gain of 9.7%, while 1977 saw a loss of 17.5%.

Rick Weissman of Gleacher and Company cited the rather spotty event record for past years of the snake. We saw things like 9/11 (2001), the attack on Pearl Harbor (1941) and the stock market crash (1929).

.....hmmmmmm....another one.....interesting.

Does JHK's warning about self-imposed, Nation-wide delusions have a cosmic convergence with the resignation of duh pope? Yow.

Speaking of things popey, and the [very rare] resignations thereof, check this skullduggery and power play involving Pope Greg, the 12th. (There is no "gawd" at work in this fun story, peeps. If you think there is... then gawd he'p you. ;o)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Gregory_XII

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The U.S. was at a stable population with reduction in sight when the ptb turned on the third world immigration spigot.

"The fortunate few will be those who have already established themselves in an authentic community of helping hands, who have some tools -- and I don't mean Adobe Photoshop or the latest iPhone app -- and laid in some bits of silver and gold."

And guns. And ammo.

The status quo is no action on climate change. The status quo in the inauguration speech would have been to continue to ignore climate change.

But that is not what happened. Obama demonstrated awareness. Obama did not keep it hidden or gloss over it or just not mention it.

Likewise the financial crisis was not ignored. The second paragraph into the speech Obama said:

“Our economy is badly weakened, a consequence of greed and irresponsibility on the part of some…”

Does that sound like someone out of touch with reality? Does that sound like someone who wants to maintain the "status quo"?

By highlighting greed in the second substantive paragraph of a speech watched by so many, Obama revealed that he would take an activist approach to leveling the playing field.

It's a new morning in America.

“Each day brings further evidence that the ways we use energy strengthen our adversaries and threaten our planet.” --Obama

Obama put climate change front and center in his inauguration speech and gave it more attention than any other topic (with eight sentences) and here are two of those sentences:

"We will respond to the threat of climate change, knowing that failure to do so would betray our children and future generations. Some may still deny the overwhelming judgment of science, but none can avoid the devastating impact of raging fires, and crippling drought, and more powerful storms." --Obama

Does that sound like someone determined to maintain the status quo? No, it sounds like what I read every week on CFN.

As for the State of the Union speech expect more of the same. A leader of substance addressing the pressing needs of where we are to go from here as a nation that the world looks up to as the leader of the free world.

"There is also chatter among the paranoid that an imagined elite has deliberately engineered American collapse for fun and profit...... This is all bullshit..." -jhk-

JHK, we definitely have an "elite" in the US; no imagination is required to see it. Our "elite" tends to go to the same few colleges, work in the financial "industry," and worst of all, they all tend to think the same way.

Growth will go on forever.
Private profit will right all wrongs.
Bigger is always better.

This last one, especially when it comes to growth of the United States population due to high immigration rates - is the one that will trump the others and doom us all, eventually.

It may be too late.
Fight anyway. Join NumbersUSA.
It's the right thing to do.
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/ethics-population-and-immigration/environmental-impact-us-immigration-policies.html

And that number was 180,000,000?

fondly stroking Der Fuehrer's little worn Bavarian hunting cap.
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Carol's entire comment on the Pope is (of course) the fruit of an active imagination and I find it amusing (though I doubt Vlad does) since from day one (when the white smoke curled out the little window) I felt B16 had sinister eyes unbecoming Christ's Vicar On Earth ... BUT I just want to point out one thing about how the juxtaposition of words can lead to misunderstanding:

A careful reader might justly wonder whether the Fuehrer's hunting cap was
(a) small in size and worn, as in worn "out," or did Carol mean
(b) the cap had not been worn often in which case a hyphen might have been used, i.e. "little-worn," to avoid a potential misunderstanding.

"Better remember to stock up on non-hybrid (heirloom) seeds".

Even if you stock up on non-hybrid seeds you still need to know how to grow them out and save them. Some seeds have short viability and need to constantly be saved. Most seeds need to be "cleaned" which normally requires low tech sieves and screens, plus containers in which to successfully store them. My point is that it would be folly to believe that one can fully prepare for what is coming. I've worked at saving seeds for years now and I would not be comfortable having to try to go it on my own.

I can't say that I understand- or for that matter, have paid much attention to- the various machinations and shennannigans of "fiscal policy", but I know this from recent experience: a man cannot live on minimum wage alone, much less with a family...and THAT is unsustainable...when enough people feel like we are working ourselves to death for nothing, we are going to start bringing some of the rest of you with us, as the old saying goes...and it looks like critical mass can't be too far off, when the motherfucker who runs walmart makes $11,000 per hour and pays the people who actually work there seven or eight...whoever it was last week who said precious metals aren't gold and silver, but brass and lead, nailed it...

Excellent satire; nicely done! (It does contain actual happenings, which is the basis of all pointed humor.)

Good to see you, Charlie; hope you're keeping well.
Maybe we WOULD be well-advised to keep a little silver (as a "store of value") squirreled by? I dunno; what do you think?
Brass and lead are of obvious value (when combined with a fancy club to load them into, or as a trade item).

BTW, just to yell it: "WTFTSTF-izzat???" ;o)

To understand the true "State of the Union" requires recognizing that money and resources are separate issues--simply because they are. The latter are the true constraint re getting the economy on track again (of course, the track need not--should not--be the same one we've been on).

Money isn't what the vast majority of us think it is.

For insight into the money issue, I recommend starting with this interview (audio): http://harryshearer.com/transcript-stephanie-kelton-interview/ .

Q.,
Just ask the littlest laddie about the provenance of the hunting cap, I'm sure he's in possession of all the particulars. Don't worry, he'll be here shortly to clear this whole thing up. (Maybe even BEFORE writing on the walls with his own feces; ya never know.)

Words are cheap. Concentrate on what the POTUS does. Besides playing golf and approving Drone strikes on wedding parties in Yemen and sheepherders on the Afghan/Pakistan border and tripling down on all the same shit Bush did to help the Banks just what the hell has Oblahblah done that makes him "aware" or gives him "substance"?
Dude says what he is told to say and when he's not reading a teleprompter he begins and ends sentences with ...uhh...uhh...Everybody made fun of the way Bush talked and nobody says anything about this. They are ALL full of shit. How can you not get that? Where are you from anyway? What happened to you?
...anyway...I'm going to work now so I can be harvested for taxes.

The state of the union is clearly in decline by any measure. The albatross of debt hanging around the neck of good old Uncle Sam is increasing by the day while productive activity (in this country) is shrinking. Truly an unsustainable situation.

The price of oil stubbornly hangs around $90 to $100 per/bbl and the price of gas around $3.25 to 4.00 per gal in spite of all the hoopla around Bakken oilfields and the USA becoming energy independent in a few years. Huh? The market is a good indicator of supply and demand and the market is saying supply is remaining stubbornly on the short end of the scale. With all that Bakken oil flowing out of North Dakota and points west we should see the price of crude plummeting to untold low levels - maybe back to the old $10 to $20 per bbl level and gas back to $1.00 per gallon. Fat chance. The tight oil from over there is in fact tight and it is the high hanging fruit. All the low hanging fruit is gone - thanks Mr. Jed Clampett for blowing that hole in the ground with ya shotgun and bringing forth those tanker loads of Texas Tea. It has served us well.

Texas Tea is in short supply today and will be in shorter supply tomorrow. That includes Middle Eastern tea too with all its war costs. That was the good stuff, the easy to get stuff, the low hanging fruit. It is like a delicious sundae - soon to be gone!!! The short lifespan of Bakkan wells will soon start to tell.

Laws of physics and nature can be so disheartening and stubborn! Even for the super-scientists. That fracking EROI number is such a party pooper - it gets worse from here... What a fracking mess this country is in!

In the mean time, anyone know where to get a good deal on some good horses and tack?

Extraordinary that anyone could doubt the Plot by the New World Order or doubt their existence. The group Anonymous, whose Liberalism is much like Mr Kunstler's, considers them a terrible danger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJS1tqy8EGQ

Thanks for that; I'll check it out.
As an aside: Big Le Show fan. Hardly ever miss it on Sunday.

Do not fear the Reaper, Chum (Carniverous Humanoid Underground Mumbler). Captain Trips has a job to do just like we all do. Let's dance arm in arm with him as he takes us across the fields up the ridge into the setting sun.

Welcome back. Have you been monitoring? Did you read that Asoka isn't Black after all?

I am one of those clowns that think that overpopulation is the elephant in the room. Problem is any wars in the future is going to be robot against robot.

So you hate Germans too - or just German Catholics? Perhaps you are forgetting about the many Catholics who died in the Camps. And the Catholic Officers who died trying to overthwow Hitler.

Don't worry Malth, those robots will kill people too. See the fine Terminator series of movies. There was a TV show too!

Soon the Drones will be flying Bots - with the ability to choose their own targets.

Hey JHK, you missed on one point. Global finance is the governing body of the world and will remain so, having made virtual colonies of all erstwhile nations including the US. That’s not paranoia, that’s reality. All governments now are just handmaiden to its purpose of accessing and controlling all resources. It’s been achieved by global conversion to the secular religious faith of free market capitalism. What irony, government and religion now fused together but this time in history it’s a secular faith rather than a prophetic one. Real humor there, don’t you agree?

As you pointed out the so called “developing nations” aren’t, but actually have been slipping further behind for 50 years. “Development” applies only by measure of how a thin upper margin of wealth class across the globe now acts as ersatz government “of the people, by the people and for the people” when in actuality it is puppet controlled by global finance. We’re all now not citizens but factor of human capital, leveled along a math mean derived from total global population.

That is, even if one lives in a area retaining feasible population/resource sustainability you can’t expect a standard of living different from the most desperate circumstances elsewhere. Resisting having your local resource advantage (whether food or otherwise) exported for consumption by that thin small percent ruling wealth class will result in an armed drone overhead. Nice future, huh?

Don't worry Malth

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I didn't know you were a Happy Days fan. Ralph the Malth was intolerable, as are you.

For all you international lurkers, please excuse this laziness on the part of Janos. He's typically "American," and therefore must find a shortcut for everything, including writing and pronouncing names. Malth is apparently meant to serve in lieu of Malthus, but this lazy-ass Janos can't be bothered to type two more letters. I know, I know, it's pathetic, but at least you don't have to be around these people day in and day out. Consider yourselves fortunate. Janos is the American Dream.

More from the Cassandra in chief. Remember, as Disraeli said : there is a lot of ruin in a nation.
Good ole Yankee ingenuity will save the day. Those who have opted to retreat to a mountain redoubt and grow their own vegetables will be the losers.

Yes, very much like the Civil War, without the slavery. Neon Vincent says it's more of a urban-rural thing than a north-south, but look at the locus of the "liberty" stuff. It's definitely the South, and a lot of the rural places are populated by Southerners or their descendants who migrated after the Civil War, the Dust Bowl, and WW2.

Their concept of "liberty" is the same as it was then: the God-given freedom of white men to dominate. But as Jim says, events are outside their control. Their dominion has eroded and will continue to, until it falls completely apart.

Seen through this filter, the anti-immigration, anti-woman, pro-Old Testament, pro-assault weapon mentality all makes sense.

If the reader assumes that Carol Newquist is one of those rare writers who knows punctuation backwards and forwards, he will take "...little worn Bavarian hunting cap" to mean that the cap was infrequently worn.

If he doesn't make that assumption, he will be entitled to ask himself, as you have done, the following: does "little" modify "worn," OR do "little" and "worn" both modify, IDEPENDENTLY, "Bavarian"? If an independent modification is meant, the punctuation mark between the two adjectives should be a comma, thus: "little, worn Bavarian hat." A hyphen has no place in this phrase.

You're makin a fool of yourself with this Newquist woman. Prog and them are too polite to tell you. Your fixin to marry her and she might not even be a woman t'all. So who's your real friend, Prog or me? I'll tell someone if they have a boogie on their face - and you do. Why don't you stop watching Colbert, Stuart, Letterman - these comics are rotting what little is left of your mind.

(There is no "gawd" at work in this fun story, peeps. If you think there is... then gawd he'p you. ;o)
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WOW, you can't make up shit like this!

Yes and Black children say "schoo" instead of school. Logically and fairly, you must condemn them too.

Your fixin to marry her...

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Please, international lurkers, have mercy on us. Not all of us are like him. Janos, Janos, Janos, how many times do you have to be told, it's you're, not your. Shame on you, you lazy racist bigot.


JHK,

The "sliding" into being what we don't want to be has already occurred. With little factoids slipping into the news stream like 75% of Boomers (at least) will be unable to retire ... EVER ... creates the impression that we done "slid" already.

It is Kafka-esque that the financial news media are still happily chirping about the Dow as if that is a surrogate for the entire economy. Their sponsors are mostly brokerages and other financial firms who've probably told the reporters on those stations to blow a continual stream of blue sky up the asses of their viewership.

The entire financial services industry is a confidence game (i.e., a CON) in the truest sense because it relies on creating artificial euphoria and complacency wherever it can. However, with the net worth of our middle class imploding to levels that imply that we really don't have a sizable middle class any more, cat's out of the bag and whether we want to contemplate it or not, most of the "sliding" is well more than half done.

First, we've slid into hand-to-mouth living. Total destitution will take a while longer but seems inevitable because even the impoverished cannot do without their iPhones and premium cable packages. There used to be a lot more dignity and acceptance in poverty than there used to be. A good read ... "Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010" tells all about the decay, financial, spiritual, and ethical, of the new working class which cannot possibly be called a "middle" class.

E.

Anyway,gasoline is back up to almost $4 per gallon round these part once again, which spells nemesis for any type of 'Economic Recovery' that might have occurred. It looks like the petroleum bonanza from Bakken and other unconventional oil patches are not benefiting New England very much, if at all. How is it in the rest of the Country? Are you seeing the benefits to our new found 'Energy Independence'?

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"Seen through this filter, the anti-immigration, anti-woman, pro-Old Testament, pro-assault weapon mentality all makes sense." -acitw-

Linking these 4 items defies all logic, change.

Immigration reduction is about protecting the environment that sustains life. And it's about protecting the "commons" in the United States that allowed traditional "liberalism" to grow and prosper.

Without some measure of both of these, real liberalism dies. And then you will see some REAL "change in the weather" toward some real anti-woman attitudes - especially on the part of Muslim and other third world immigrants, competing for resources in a hopelessly overcrowded United States.

https://www.numbersusa.com/change/immigration/numbers/

Freshly stolen from radio show:
...Our first Hitler Yout' Pope has resigned, because he couldn't stand his boss' holier-than-thou attitude...
OOoooooo

http://instantrimshot.com/

("press" the red button)

Support growing for rogue Black LA Cop by Liberals and Minorities. Can anyone imagine a White Cop who had killed innocent people getting any support? Pure racism on the part of the Liberals and Minorities. Unadulterated prejudice in favor of this man because the color of his skin - not the contents of his character.

http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2013/02/diversity-is-strength-its-also-massive.html

NO PHOTOSHOP? What do you mean, no photoshop???

Sorry, Q, I was (predictably) wrong again. Perhaps I thought a catholic-esque miracle would occur, but he seems to be happy occupying his shift by applying a thick, new coat of excreta on the available walls. It's unfortunate, but we'll just have to be resigned to doing our own research into "The Matter of The Hunting Cap".

Why do Americans have the right to "America" - the middle part of Turtle Island? You are just immigrants too. Who says you get to say this many and no more? Especially since most of the immigrants are of the Bronze Race who were here first? I think you are a racist who lacks the courage to come right out and say it. Vlad was preferable to this kind of hiding.

The Bronze race shall triumph since we aren't afraid to be for our Race 100%. It's only Racism when Whites are for themselves.

I have no use for Ratzinger or his conservatism, but he was NOT a Nazi. Nor was his father--in fact, they had to move to a different village when the elder Ratzinger criticized the Third Reich. Yeah, there's a pic of young Joseph in the Hitler Youth version of a cub scout outfit--but I also have a friend that age from a very leftist Roman family who had to parade around in similar Mussolini gear during the fascist regime. One's choice in clothing gets a little limited when one's neighbors can make a call and get you locked up.

The red button is your clown nose - which needs breaking btw.

He is in fact, a Liberal who appoints other Liberals to very high positions. He is called a "conservative" because he refused to allow woman priests and openly homosexual priests. In other words, he defended the few last shreds of Catholicism against the Liberal Deluge that seeks to make every thing, place, and person the same. And for this he was hated by the Communists who have infiltrated the Church in vast numbers.

thus: "little, worn Bavarian hat." A hyphen has no place in this phrase.
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My inclination, Jam, is to defer to your explanation since you seem to know what you're talking about and I can always count on you to call "bullshit" on my fly-by-the-pants grammar BUT, I must ask, what about the third adjective, Bavarian? In other words, why is no comma required between worn and Bavarian? In fact, the more I ponder this, the more I begin to think maybe the hunting cap is one owned by a short (i.e. little) tired old (i.e. worn) citizen of Bavaria (i.e. Bavarian). Come to think of it, "hunting" is an adjective too. It makes for an "Eats shoots and leaves" type issue.

K-Dog, where does Carol post from?

The problems and predicaments we currently face both individually and collectively will most likely not be resolved by deciding on what are the best economic systems to which our society should subscribe. All nominated systems offer difficulties that some will find too challenging, immoral, or unfair.

On the other hand, if a community, state, nation or humanity were to become strongly motivated to pull away from--become repulsed by our habits based on self-interest, and choose instead the exact opposite: individually, with collective support, acting with equal consideration for the interests of all concerned, give without thought of return, and serve without thought of reward, well, then any and all systems would prove satisfactory.

If your mind is open enough to buy this logic, you will still wonder: what on Earth could be that source of strong motivation?

...Our first Hitler Yout' Pope has resigned, because he couldn't stand his boss' holier-than-thou attitude...
OOoooooo
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Very funny, and doubly so when followed by the rim-shot.

"I think you are a racist who lacks the courage to come right out and say it. Vlad was preferable to this kind of hiding."
-pot to kettle?-

Don't try to drag me down into that swamp.
Allegations of "racism" are one of the great deal-breakers and conversation-stoppers in the United States.

And I sent Pres. Obama a fax early this morning expressing my disapproval of "amnesty" for illegal immigrants. At the bottom of the fax, I placed the following post-script.

PS
President Obama, I am particularly concerned over the effect of high levels of immigration on native-born African-Americans. How can black unemployment ever be reduced when over one MILLION LEGAL immigrants are allowed into the United States every year??

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I'll let the CF Nation know when the pres. responds. Hold your breath now, ya' hear.

JHK is correct, the whole point of the money printing is exactly to create fog.

To what end? To conceal the real agenda? So what IS the Wizard up to? What's the point of all the money printing?

One thing the money printing wasn't intended to do was to facilitate a necessary restructuring of the US economy. To my eyes, it was to obstruct it both in real and financial terms. To use Kunstlerian terminology the purpose of incessant money printing and interest rate suppression was to sustain the unsustainable.

Because in restructuring the economy to a sustainable level corporate America's bottom line would get hammered and so the schemes and frauds run by Wall Street would take a shit kicking. And we can't have that. The Manhattan glitterati want their bonuses. They NEED their bonuses. The yacht costs a fortune. So does the townhouse. And the grand dames in their great salons, they have to dress the part. And that costs money. So does cosmetic surgery. So does pyschoanalysis. So does cocaine. So does rehab.

Even with cheap and plentiful oil a 16 trillion dollar a year economy is unsustainable when more than a trillion of it comes out of debt incurred by Washington. Especially when there's nobody lending.

Please, international lurkers, have mercy on us. Not all of us are like him. - Carol speaking of Vlad/Janos
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Well Lucky 13, unless ^this^ is a clever red herring tossed across her/his path to divert the hounds, I think Carol's location has been narrowed down to the US of A as opposed to the rest of the world.

Oops,...you're wrong. The founding documents of this nation were to provide a common bond among all people by virtue of alligience above all else to principles of neutral civil law and democratic representation of all "citizens". That is, subordinate of all other allegiences such as affiliation to particular race, ethnicity, religion, blood line, skin color, nation of origin, etc., etc. This was a deliberate attempt by the founders to avoid the centuries of internecin war that had plagued humanity through history. OK, so those Enlightenment principles have often failed full fruition due to human foibles, but your position is that it is due to skin tonality. That makes you a racist.

Union rules, not Division.

I'll let the CF Nation know when the pres. responds.
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You will have a response within minutes generated by the Crank Letter Answer Bot.

Oops, only Whites have ever taken that position - and only lately. The Founders were for "themselves and their progeny" - as opposed to anyone else. Did the Han create China for the Negroes? Or the did the Negroes create nothing for the Chinese? If you were right, then why was Washington a great and reknowned Indian fighter? As was Jackon later?

Your position is so, so popular and so, so wrong. It dooms Whites to dispossesion everywhere. The Left is correct in its accusations of racism agains the Founders. They are wrong in seeing this as bad. It is simply natural. White now hold themselves to an impossibly high standard - much like raw food fanatics who are busy "purifying" themselves out of existence. Real People and Nations have needs and take up space. And yes, their shit stinks. Raw foodists like you take pleasure in their shrinking bodies and neutral smelling feces.

Get your mind out of the gutter and into the cellar where it belongs. There are accounts to be handled!

Thanks, 03, doin' as well as could be expected...
As for silver vs. lead, ask yerself which is usefuller- in terms of what can ya git in return for it? For silver n' gold: whatever someone else wants to trade...brass n' lead: whatever someone else has to trade...n' there I'll be restin' mah case, yer honor...well, at least if recent reports of vampires is greatly exaggerated, that is...!

Tools, silver and gold?
This is going to make our world more real?
No.
Promoting historical moments such as that depicted by Spielberg in his latest obsession with TIME, is not the answer to the current problem. We know from history that people survived without electricity for thousands of years.
We know people can lead us into a better kind of presence.
We can have faith in people to an extent. Just like Kunstler says, we're limited. Reality can not keep pace with the new DREAMS. What does a world do when they've achieved everything their forefathers wanted them to achieve?
We've done it all and now Kunstler says it's time to start over? There's not going to be a complete reset when we turn off our computers. There is still going to be electricity, machines, organized leadership in the higher spheres of reality. Kunstler is very limited in his imagination and knowledge and he really doesn't know what he's talking about when he goes beyond the current trends.

Eleuthero, what's your take on this mass Boomer insolvency? I.e., to what extent do you think they're victims of circumstance, and to what extent were they just feckless?

Based on my own extended family, I'd lean towards fecklessness, but my family may have an anomalously high concentration of financial fuck-ups. We have at least three massive fuck-ups among the Boomers on my dad's side of the family. The manifestations of their fecklessness are different, but each case is a shit storm that has yet to fully hit the fan.

The oldest two, Farmer Uncle and Stoner Aunt, have more or less obliterated several hundred dollars' worth of free capital that they manipulated out of family and friends to shore up their badly mismanaged, heavily indebted farm. What really aggravates their case is that they're so fucking smug about their behavior and cavalier about its effects on others. They act as if they haven't done a foolish or disreputable thing in the three decades that they've owned the farm, and they unleash a firehose of steaming bullshit on anyone they wish to manipulate whenever they deem it expedient. They're in their late sixties and, by my parents' reckoning, irreformable. Not a week goes by that I don't seriously consider suing them for back wages for the farm work that I've done for them under bad and worsening conditions. It's probably a testament to their devious, sub rosa intimidation of everyone around them that they haven't been sued and that the farm has not been placed into receivership. In some ways, Farmer and Stoner are very financially prudent, but this is a case in which some is not nearly enough.

Farmer Uncle's younger siblings, Alien Uncle and Alien Aunt, have been wildly profligate since their twenties or thirties. Alien Uncle got foreclosed out of a house full of electronic junk and motorcycles in Menlo Park that he had bought with a succession of home equity lines of credit. Lately he has been living with roommates in East Palo Alto and angling for alternate housing with various people at his church, including the pastors. Alien Aunt withdrew the savings in her IRA, at a penalty, and used them to travel aimlessly with fellow Christian moochers, having gotten involved with some really crazy churches that are better described as cults. One of these churches is so far out that it seceded from the Assemblies of God in pursuit of a "Holy Spirit revival," lost half its membership within a year, and attracts crazies from halfway across the continent to its "School of Supernatural Worship."

People like these would be in bad shape in the best of circumstances, but I doubt that their profligacy fully explains why the Boomers are hurting so.

"obliterated several hundred dollars' worth of free capital."

Several hundred dollars can be paid back quickly. So what's to get uptight about?

Mike

Steve, Tom and I made our way to the elevator and took it down to the lobby. Along the way to the front door, the path is set up in such a way that it resembles a gauntlet. At the narrowest point of that gauntlet, you must stop and pay some form of tribute to the troll to mean, you must turn in your visitor badge and listen to his antics. Sorry, I mean the security guard. He is troll-like because of his obvious attitude. He’s a little man who enjoys what little power he has in this position. It’s a position of authority, albeit mostly symbolic, but nonetheless, it’s authority, and this otherwise pathetically insecure man milks it for all it is worth. He’s one of those types that likes to joke, but his jokes are not funny. You couldn’t convince him of that, though. He cracked a few when we entered the building, and he did again when we were exiting the building. I cannot remember any of these jokes because they were so dull and unremarkable. What I do remember is the last one he cracked was blatantly over-the-line and at the expense of the only female in earshot. It made me uncomfortable, and judging from Steve’s and Tom’s expressions, it made them uncomfortable. Not that it mattered to this little man. It was yet another example of him flouting his authority. I wondered what his fellow employees thought of him. Surely, some of them hated his guts but had to swallow back their disgust in order to make it to retirement and the Government pension pot at the end of the dubious rainbow.

What is the point of a security guard in a facility of this nature? From the looks of these inmates, and let’s face it, they are inmates because they are not here by choice, and they are not free to come and go, even if they had the wherewithal to do so, they’re not going anywhere, so why the added precaution of of an obnoxious troll with a gun and badge? Is it the result of nine eleven and all the ridiculous draconian legislation that followed in its wake? The legislation that had already been crafted many years in advance and was waiting for just the right event to come along to implement and put into force? That could be it, but I don’t know for certain. If it is the case, it sounds rather absurd to think Muslim terrorists would fly planes into Veterans’ homes, or bother to blow themselves up in Veterans’ homes. That would be mercy killing, and according to conventional wisdom as imparted by the Western mainstream media, Muslim terrorists are not known for their mercy. A more likely target of the Muslim terrorists, using their favorite weapon of choice per the mainstream media, the jet, would be the Nuclear Power Plant, the seeming portrait of which fills the entire set of windows of the fourth-floor cafeteria. But hey, who am I to question? Little men need jobs. Otherwise, little men get violent and beat their wives and children if they have any, and if they don’t, they find someone else to beat . Maybe Barney Fife’s not here to keep the inmates in, or the Muslim terrorists out, but instead to keep the drug addicts out. This is a quasi-hospital environment, and as such, it no doubt carries a host of drugs. Drug addicts are brilliant at sleuthing and reconnoitering all potential repositories of drugs. I know this because I watched Gus Van Sant’s Drugstore Cowboy starring Matt Dillon. If I had to guess, Andy’s sidekick has his job for a combination of the reasons provided above, and maybe a few reasons I left out. Either way, I’m glad I don’t have to work with him or see him ever again, but unfortunately, there are clones of him everywhere. They’re ubiquitous. They’re unavoidable. Who cares, anyway? Not me. Not anymore.

I’m being unduly harsh on this poor guy, perhaps. I have a tendency to think the worst, and often as a result, I’m pleasantly surprised because the worst, or nothing even closely resembling it, rarely manifests. So, take that all those who say “look at the glass as half full.” This way works well for me. It keeps a REAL smile on my face, not that Miss America, contrived smile that looks like it has to be replaced every so often like contact lenses due to wear and tear. What’s he like outside of this place? Is he like so many others, rather unremarkable? Most likely. Maybe he’s a Shriner. Come on, you’ve seen them, they wear the funny hat that look likes an inverted Dixie cup with a tassel dangling off it. They collect money once or twice a year at major, or not so major, intersections. He could be an upstanding member of his church. The coach of his daughter’s softball team. Or, he could have a secret hideaway in his basement where he keeps chains, whips, lots of leather and ball gags and the Gimp. I’ve always been curious as to how many of the latter we run across in our lives. Remember the picture of Rosalyn Carter and John Wayne Gacy? Had Gacy not been caught, the First Lady never would have known that she was in the company of a murderous psychopath. The same holds true for her brush-up to the Mohammad Rezā Shāh Pahlavī, another murderous psychopath.

They said it couldn’t be done! We’re finally breaking free of this place, and pulling away from Barney Wayne Gacy’s orbit. The finish line, meaning the front doors, are just a few paces away. Cue the Chariots of Fire theme music. It’s been a tremendous triumph. If we had stayed much longer, we may have caught incontinence. The dreaded, deafening silences were avoided. The picture of Al was recovered. I don’t think the security guard has my address, and if so, once we’re through those doors, I, nay we, escape the possibility of his hideaway with the chains, whips, ball gags and the Gimp. Another pleasant surprise. Life is full of them when you view the glass as empty.

"It's only racism when whites are for themselves." How do you figure that jack. I guess I'm a racist.

Thanks for proving my point: You confuse the failings of individuals (judged from hindsight of history) with associated period leaps in reasoned thinking as applied to social order and governing. You typify those who embrace with religious ferver idealisms that as obtuse to reality as any other fundamentalist dogma.

   "The implacable contraction underway is the simple result of growing scarcity of cheap oil, the master resource. Thus, in a world where fantasy has replaced analysis, the propaganda channels brim with false news of America's coming "energy independence" and the rebirth of domestic manufacturing, the coming electric car fleet, and space tourism. There is also chatter among the paranoid that an imagined elite has deliberately engineered American collapse for fun and profit, with sideshows about the Department of Homeland Security promoting social upheaval in order to make a show of putting it down. This is all bullshit concealing the futile machinations of people so unfortunate as to hold political office in an unraveling they can't control. Where control is no longer possible, paranoid fantasies fill the vacuum of wishing for control."

James, you can't have it both ways: to claim to know the future and deny the rest of humanity the privilege. Given the almost unlimited resources of political capital and financial leverage the few are in possession of, isn't it just possible that these elite's might just find it advantageous to maximize their position by manipulation of the situation you find so much to comment upon?

Hopefulness and truth rises and is then snuffed out by ignorance, arrogance, and greed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WebpqUdeuQ

"There is also chatter among the paranoid that an imagined elite has deliberately engineered American collapse for fun and profit...... This is all bullshit..." -jhk-
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Prog, you are zeroed in on an important distinction. I think if Jim had a chance to re-write that sentence he would not imply "an Elite" were imagined but rather the notion "the Elite deliberately engineered American collapse for fun and profit" was imagined. Putting it simply, Jim doesn't believe in grand conspiracy theories ... and, for what it's worth, neither do I.

You typify those who embrace with religious ferver idealisms that [...] as obtuse to reality as any other fundamentalist dogma.
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...with religious fervor idealisms that [are] as obtuse...

So you don;t believe in God, either I guess. Random unconnected universe of events. I don't know, myself. I am waiting to see (if I haven't already).

Ooooh,.....points on technicalities!

Along the way to the front door, the path is set up in such a way that it resembles a gauntlet.
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See link below. You're doing such a nice job with your prose that I'd rather you had retained the original distinction between gantlet and gauntlet. I hate when, over time, words become muddled by the lazy and we wind up with people saying jive when they mean jibe and could care less when they mean couldn't... just an observation, do as you please.

http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2006/08/is-it-gantlet-or-gauntlet.html

Good. I'm glad. Most people can't (don't want to) see the two definitions and allow themselves to be programmed into hating themselves. It's too much work and too isolating to see that racism also means loving your own and not just hating the other. So incredibly, Whites will defend the collective rights and reputation of other races, but eagerly smear their own people. An insane situation perpetrated by the Globalists in order to take down the West.

Of course, loving your own might mean hating the other in the long run. That's the way of nature and Jim says we're going back there. Competition for scarce resources. Two species, sub species, races, or tribes that use the same resources cannot exists in the same eco-niche. Thus the agressive Gray Squirrels have driven the shy English Red Squirrels to the brink of exctinction. And in London, the cockney accent is vanishing before a Jamaican Patois. White Women are with Black and Muslim men but not vice versa. We're losing and the vicious and masochistic Leftists cannot contain their joy.

OMG, now you're channeling Ronald Reagan!! A new morning in America.....yeah, riiiiight.

A bullshit response unworthy of you. You were wrong. And White Americans considered America their's until the massive social revolution orchestrated from above by the social engineers. They have done an amazing job and frankly, Whites must have been ripe for destruction. No other race could so easily be seduced into giving away their Country.

For example, a game company sent the Chinese a game where Blacks kicked the asses of Chinese Martial Arts Masters - a revered symbol of Chinese history and virility. The Chinese were outraged, banning the game and demanding a refund. THAT's how a Nation preserves itself. All of our white blood cells (cultural defence mechanisms) are gone and we are dying. Likewise, the Russians don't allow Gay Pride Parades. They say it would destroy the morale of the people. They are correct. But they are dying too - they are innundated by Chechens who have huge families. They have almost no children by comparison.

So you don;t believe in God, either I guess.
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You must be new around here.

No, I don't, but neither do I make atheism my religion. If I'm wrong I'll awake from the dead pleasantly surprised.

OMG, now you're channeling Ronald Reagan!! A new morning in America.....yeah, riiiiight.
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Helen (and one or two others), be advised that Asoka colon is NOT Asoka dot dot... or so Asoka dot dot tells us. Who really knows?

Duly noted. I blame Michael Butler and Dennis Shryack. I will make the change. In fact, I won't use either gauntlet or gantlet, but instead gantelope since gantlet is a lazy replacement for it.

“So many circles of hazard are spinning around events that some fast-turning object will come off its axis and start smashing all the fantasies.”

That’s some very rich and evocative prose, JHK. And for some reason it triggered an association with the spinning top analogy in “The Republic” for me. And speaking of Plato and Socrates, if justice is each person fulfilling the role best suited for them (I know, “The Republic” begins to wobble on its axis when interpreted too literally) what type of justice is being served by unfurling the welcome mat to millions of illegal immigrants in the midst of an official 8% unemployment rate -a rate which actually camouflages the severity of the unemployment/underemployment dynamic?

Solipsistic rhetoric aside – and delusional arguments for a ‘world without borders’ and ‘separation of states based on race’ – the only conclusion that can be formed is “from above so below”. In other words, there is no justice, no concept of justice, and the importing of foreign labor by those from above in the midst of a severe recession in order to further compete with legal citizens can only be termed an injustice in a Platonic “Republic” sense. After all, these are legal citizens who will no longer be fulfilling their ‘suitable role’ once they are displaced and their jobs outsourced.

And of course, there are and will be the permutations ‘gone bad’ as a result of an unfavorable, unjust environment. Socrates asserts that a” very high natural quality will come off worse in an unfavorable environment than poor quality” (I suppose that might be true because "high quality" is intelligent and aware enough to see the lack of “good” reflecting down). On the other hand, he also infers by way of question – isn’t everything always a question with that Dude- that a ‘weak nature isn’t likely to be responsible for anything of consequence’.

Well, well, well, Dr. Plato let me introduce you to America, circa 2013, where any ol’tobacco chewing buffoon can magnify his presence well beyond the scope that his natural capabilities would otherwise allow in a just society by donning and wielding outrageously deadly weapons designed by those far more intelligent than he.

Fast turning objects spinning out of control or dim-witted clowns wobbling to the speed of their brain... take your pick, I say.

No chance that your aunts and uncles will change their crazy ways at this point. I have an aunt who for the past few decades has been running around pretending she's in dire financial trouble. She's shamelessly asked older relatives to leave her money. She's going to be fine financially, and no one has plans to leave her extra money. If she had more money, she'd just spend it on crap.

I say that if "little" and "worn" qualify "Bavarian" independently, rather than "little" qualifying "worn," which in turn qualifies "Bavarian," then a comma is required.

You ask, responding, that since "worn" and "Bavarian" seem to qualify "hat" independently, whether, following the principle that I myself laid down, a comma should therefore be placed between "hat" and "Bavarian." Your logic is impeccable.

However, a comma between these two adjectives seems unnecessary. Seems. That's the best I can do. There's probably a rule that applies here, but I don't know what it is.

Here's all the University you'll ever need. And it's free. The best things usually are. For now.

Surprise Surprise

As Englishmen get smaller, foxes get bigger. The balance of power is already shifting. The little English Aboriginees of the future will be hunted by giant foxes. Disarmed by their colored Masters, they will have little or no defence.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276187/Fox-attack-Neighbours-hysterical-screams-animal-bit-week-old-babys-finger-slept.html?ICO=most_read_module#axzz2KX4fO3m6

"Enough of your bumfuzzlement!", the mob doth cry as one voice.

I shall attempt to muddy further.

Cop interrogator: "Describe the hat; elsewise we shall have to beat you about the head and shoulders with a rubber hose, or a truncheon of a similar nature."

Recalcitrant witness: "Well, okay then... It was a Hitlerian hunting hat. No, no, wait. Come to think of it, it was a little, worn, Bavarian, hunting hat; I think Hitler wore one or two, just before War One or War Two, I can't recall exactly."

Thwack! Thwack-thwack-thwack!

Some interesting thoughts, Buck. As has often been noted, the skill set needed to govern is very different than the skills - and the mentality - produduced by clawing one's way up. In terms of the American People, why should we have to go through the whole fight for survival thing again? We are already past that stage. And if we must compete, the average soft, atomized American individual will do poorly against the hardened, tribal Third Worlders.

To open our borders is an act of hatred against the American People. And if not motivated by hatred, it could only be motivated by extreme self interest and indifference to our well being.

Have you been monitoring? Asoka per se does not exist. The Black goof is not gone - he never was.

It was Bavarian, just a little worn since little worn. Your interest is touching. How would you honor this relic?

The Pope is a Dope! And that is all she wrote. Vlad can kiss my ass. I went to Catholic School through the 12th grade! Religion blows. Rules and dogma can bite me. God bless my Mom, She was a true believer. The Almighty decided to strike her down with the big C when she was 46, I was 12. Good job Asshole GOD. And the Virgin Mary must have takin' in the ass since she never had sex with a human.

following the principle that I myself laid down, a comma should therefore be placed between "hat" and "Bavarian." Your logic is impeccable.
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OK, now we're getting somewhere. I'm willing to call this chess match a draw if you are.

I'd take a shit in it.

Now that we are in the "good" part of the comments section, I can't help but think about the nine hours of slogging through eight inch deep muck while picking up trash in a landfill.

It is located in outside of the little town of Celina, Ohio. I climbed to the top of the heap of modern refuse battling 45 mph wind the whole way.

I had a thought while I was looking down at the surrounding farms...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49bl6FrgZTs

Thanks for catching that mistake. It's hundreds of thousands of dollars, not hundreds of dollars, that those two have frittered away in outstanding shares of farm stock. My parents alone own shares that are nominally worth over $100k. Several other shareholders, all of them family or friends, have stakes nominally worth tens of thousands apiece.

All of this stock is invaluable, in the very negative sense that there is no market at all to assign it a meaningful value. The only people who own it were cajoled or sweet-talked into buying it and the only way they'd be able to sell would be to bully Farmer and Stoner for a refund, which the latter would secure by putting the screws on the dwindling pool of other investors who are not disaffected.

One of the investors is currently being bought out in this fashion, having earlier threatened to foreclose on the farm to recover back payments on the secondary mortgage, the note for which he holds. This is the same investor who entered into a verbal agreement with Farmer and Stoner to indefinitely defer scheduled payments. The dipshits actually entered into an oral amendment to a written contract, and damned if they didn't take it up the ass as a result when the noteholder got wiped out in his other failed businesses.

This is an indescribably tangled Faulknerian nightmare. We pretty much need someone like Irving Picard to sort it all out and tell everyone what to do. Any attempt at a resolution is likely to be very ugly.

Feel free to gloat that you aren't a party to any of this horseshit. I'll be smug if I'm ever made whole.


Janos said:
For example, a game company sent the Chinese a game where Blacks kicked the asses of Chinese Martial Arts Masters - a revered symbol of Chinese history and virility.
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But the worst thing about that game is that IT DOES NOT REFLECT REALITY. Reality is that Blacks rarely win any kind of medal at all from any country in Olympic Judo, for example. Asians routinely kick our American asses repeatedly in international karate and judo competitions.

Liberalism contains a lot of "Newspeak" not unlike the false "truisms" of Orwell's "1984". I'm glad the Chinese banned the game. The more paternalistic countries still respect their own cultures and prosaic fact whereas we're handing over our country on the basis of the false "truism" that all ethnicities are equally desirable as landed immigrants.


E.

You're right. The best cause I have for hope is that Alien Aunt seems to have become somewhat more diligent about getting payroll work in the past few years than she was in her forties and early fifties. The problem is that she's on the cusp of 62 and will most likely start drawing Social Security this summer. We'll all be amazed if she has the prudence and discipline to wait and buck up her pension a bit. The other three are showing no signs of reform.

The ironic thing is that even though Alien Aunt and Alien Uncle inspired the name of my blog and the initial rounds of snark, they really don't bother me nearly as much as Farmer Uncle and Stoner Aunt. They're all in bad financial shape as they enter old age, and Alien Aunt has been foiled at some seedy schemes to fence family heirlooms on eBay for personal cash flow, but the aliens don't try to suck unwilling parties into their world and mold them in their image. Given how aggressive Farmer and Stoner often are in this regard, this is a huge point in their favor.

Unfortunately, my relatives usually have better things to say about Farmer and Stoner than about the family aliens. I'm basically Farmer and Stoner's only adversary within the family, since no one else is angry enough at them to want to play hardball. The thing is, I really do not like the toxic emotional environment that Farmer and Stoner have created and are too self-satisfied to consider improving unless they're made to really hurt. As witlessly improvident as the aliens are, they don't give me the feeling that I'm watching a slow-motion shithead fugue on the part of people whom I'll probably have to sue if I'm to have any hope of being made whole.


Ah, Q. ... give the picky grammarian a rest, eh? As you know, I respect language and its proper use a great deal. However, sometimes you'll rap our knuckles for stuff that's little more than a typo.

I respect your insistence on proper spelling and punctuation and, yes, it drives me nuts to see people say "to" when they mean "too" or "loose" when they mean "lose". However, what concerns me even more than all that is a lack of creative prose with no pizzazz. You buy a novel by a hypermodern author these days and the author will spend a page talking about the cutting up of a green pepper and it's totally ancillary to the plot. THAT drives me more bonkers than the occasional spelling error.

It's similar in the computer programming world. If one memorizes the entirety of "C: A Reference Manual" that doesn't mean that the memorizer is a good programmer. A good programmer knows how to combine grammar and syntax in a clever way to complete an algorithm. Just knowing syntax doesn't mean doodly when it comes to that.

E.

Do you think your Mother enjoys hearing your Blasphemy?

Remember your youth Dee, do not forget. How can you since you haven't changed?

http://www.sadanduseless.com/2012/01/liberal-college-girl/

England used to have "Universal Aunts", an organization of mostly young men who would help orphans and travelers in trouble - all for a fee.

G'Day Jim,

Our 4 Corners did a show on US economic contraction and how it affects the lowest paid. It is worth a look - http://www.abc.net.au/iview/?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=Corp_TV-iview|FourCorners_AdWords_:four%20corners%20abc_b_g_19619212999_&gclid=CO_IyaOisLUCFQFKpgodWiMAXQ#/series/Four%20Corners

Cheers,

John

"Observer Only" Universe

Within the framework of Instant Singularities, technological singularities, modified minds become new Observer types and such. But as such you can imagine the division between inside and outside of the delimitations creating observer and outside world, changing, becoming variable, as an Observer and its corresponding Universe is just one entity made up of a chunk of matter, an item, a monolithic slab of Information Relationship Sets, of Interaction Sets, of Experience Sets sending itself signals, talking to itself, interacting with itself, sending itself information chunks, exchanging bits of information within itself (pretending that it is actually exchanging those bits with some imaginary outside world, when it is all just one world, inside and outside don't exist, belonging and not belonging to is arbitrarily defined and delimited just because, for no reason at all, or at most just for the reasons of how much independence one part of the ensemble has from another part of the ensemble and such) and dividing them arbitrarily as from the inside to the outside, delimiting the set of interactions as belonging to an observer and another set as a reaction or action of the outside (imaginary and arbitrarily delimited outside world, as in all truth it is all one, just one monolithic ball of signals and information exchanges going on between all of the bits within the ball of exprience and interaction sets pretending to be talking to an outside world as compared to an inside world,, pretending to be interacting bewteen an outside world and an observer type reacting to how the independent and imaginary disjoint outside world talks to it and such).

So the limit of the Outside World tending towards zero and the Observer tending towards infinite can create an Observer Only Universe, where the Observer doesn't have to interact with anything independent from itself anymore, can competely invent and make up, and play make believe with itself and create any Universe it can imagine, anything at all, it would no longer have any possible constraint upon its experience set, and you can also have the opposite, the area delimiting the observer tending towards zero as the outside universe tends towards infinite and as such an observer completely drowning into totally independent chunks of information and such. And all other kinds of delimitations and interactions and possibilities and as usual you can also project and create super abstractions as in within a discourse, if 0 is the Observer and 1 is the Universe, what is 347766 ? what is minus th66, what is minus 4333 ? what is fhjrrttkh ? what is the pebble on the street ? what is the car tire and so forth, and the discourse can be intricate (and intractable ?) to no end, such as the words (or worlds ?) of the discourse are made up of symbols such that they are competely disjoint such that the first letter is a car tire, the second letter a steering wheel, the third letter a forest, the fourth letter an electron, the fifth letter a planet and so on, and combining all delimitations to create a symbol set, a sequence of symbols creating new worlds and words and information and so forth.

So you can also imagine a set of bits coming from one sense organ where the division of the bits can create any number of new sense organs according to how the Observer Processor processes those new bit delimitations and such maybe creating them as being sight and sound from a steady stream, a monolithic stream of indifferent bits not belonging to any sense organ at all. So you can also imagine a set of bits coming from different sense organs dividing them as being sight and sound and such and touch but you can also imagine that those bits can simply all be just one generalized sense organ corresponding to a sequence of symbols that can be divided into other new sense organs by the processing machine, inventing them and creating them on the fly, as such when a bird sings, he only uses sound to interact and describe his entire universe, a sound only universe but that is enough to create any universe as rich as any other, you just need a stream of bits to create any unvierse and then split the bits into many different parts and meanings and sense organs creating all of the further dimensions: as a bird from only sound can create vision and dimensions and maybe millions of other new sense organs according to how his processor divides the signals, organizes them in the mind and interacts with them and such-

So coconut says he didn't read a "particle" of "my" post and such: well it isn't my post, all these blocks of texts don't belong to anyone or anything, they are simply information bits, a sequence of symbols, a generalized way to organize information in minds, independent from anything or anyone, a new way to organize information in any mind, and as such the generalized mind is one and only, a monlithic slab that exists inside a box independent from anyone but everyone thinks that it is theirs and such, nothing further from the truth, it is nothing, a generalized information processor independent of us that is on the top of our body...

And that explains why we don't need more information workers, they are all manipulating the same box, the combinational affair as in the new jobs will all be the expression of new combinations. As in the reason why Education and Health Care are creating the most "new jobs" is that since most basics are licked and can be done with few workers, as in most of the Technological Economy has optimized and automated (and can potentially solve all of such technical problems in a jiffy if you get rid of contrasting will powers and politics and fights of puny people over breadcrumbs that can't see the bigger picture) the only thing really left is to try out all of the possible new combinations of information and as a corollary all of the possible definitions of sicknesses and how to solve the sicknesess as in anything can be seen as a sickness, as a problem, you can define anything as a health problem and any target as the problem solved and in such a way create a never ending stream of new sicknesses and health care necessities as anything you think can mean you are sick (as soon as you think you are sick you feel sick and get sick and such) or you have been cured and this is a corollary of all of the possible information combinations in minds inventing their own sicknesses, and all the tests and examinations and health care, and sponging off from all of this the health care industry achieves and such.

As in the number of combinations of only 20 numbers is 10^20, a huge number, so think of education as the need to make everyone memorize 10^20 numbers, so you see education is infinite and the same with health care, a combinational affair, keep a steady stream of bits, and then it doesn't even matter if the combinations are repeated and the redundancies, it is all about repetitions and redundancies today, it is an old and bored society today, it is all about boredome today, and fights to break the boredome and imaginary constraints and resource limitations when it is only fights between people, one person wanting to hog it all up and others fighting that one person or group of persons and so forth and such.

As a conclusion we need Free Salaries to All, Free Rents, and huge projects, skyscrapers and rockets to mars payed by the governments printing trillions of dollars by the FED instead of giving it to banks and such.


APE HEAD



Says it's viewable only by Australians. We can't watch it.

E.


Oh, brother. North Korea blew up a small nuke above ground. Now the world will get all worked up over a whole lot of nothing. Geez, Fukushima's radiation for the last year has probably exceeded the N. Korean nuclear test's fallout by ten thousand percent but I guess the United Nations needs to find a reason to furrow its brow.

Meh.

E.

Yeah E5, but that fallout from Fukushima is merely drifting over to the west coast slowly, in ocean and wind currents, by degrees. Young Kim plans on attaching one of his Nuclear devices on the nose of a missile and delivering it to the west coast all at once, post haste. That's the difference.

I'm Minister without Portfolio, consigned to view events from the outside (with my customary malevolent detachment) .

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"Putting it simply, Jim doesn't believe in grand conspiracy theories ... and, for what it's worth, neither do I." -k/q-

Nice counter, K. And yeah, for myself, I tend to try to believe in the sayings that go:

"Never blame on conspiracy that which can be explained by stupidity, complacency, or inertia."

And that's true enough of the "Grand Conspiracy," probably - hopefully.

But what of the lesser conspiracies. Sept. 11 was DEFINITELY a conspiracy of 100+ Muslim Jihad planners, trainers, financiers - along with 19 fanatics who were willing to die for Allah.
Definitely, right?

Now, did this conspiracy catch the attention of low and mid-level, even upper-level intelligence operatives around the globe, including Mossad.
Perhaps, right?

Was this "attention," if it existed, quickly covered up from public view after the fact?
Definitely, again, right?

Would that be a Grand Conspiracy?
You tell me, OK.

More news on the Pope's resignation.

http://www.truthdig.com/images/cartoonuploads/PopeGoesTheWeasel.jpg

The grapevine indicates that one of the top nominees to take Pope Nazidict's place is Cardinal Janos Skorenzy, a peculiar chap in tune with his feminine side who enjoys stroking his pussy and posting to CFN.

Still on conspiracy -

And Janos, sometimes you come up with some good stuff, like the following:

"To open our borders is an act of hatred against the American People. And if not motivated by hatred, it could only be motivated by extreme self interest and indifference to our well being."

Also, it is an act of hatred or indifference to the environment of the US and the global disasters being promulgated by US policies.

In researching conspiracy, I came upon the website "rationalwiki (dot) com." Some of you will like their stock positions on "Atheism" and "9/11."

But their positions on other things are stock irrational..asoka..like..positions.

And rationalwiki is a very well constructed website. That takes money. And it takes the involvement of more than one or two people.
To my mind, this begins to look like conspiracy.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Britain_is_full

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Similar to the conspiracy that ruined the Sierra Club and greatly contributed to the ruin of the environmental movement in the United States.
http://www.susps.org/

If so, this is proving very, very bad.

England used to have "Universal Aunts", an organization of mostly young men who would help orphans and travelers in trouble - all for a fee.

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What? A bunch of young men referred to themselves as the "Universal Aunts?" That's odd. Were they a troupe of cross-dressers?

A question for you, Cardinal Skorenzy.

Are Transvestites Homosexuals?

"in tune with his feminine side who enjoys stroking his pussy and posting to CFN."
-dee jones?-

Sure sounds like you, dee.

You were "Vlad Kramps," too, weren't you?

If so, this is proving very, very bad.

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What can you do, what can you do, it's the society we're living in.

By the way, are you and your buds finishing up your final preparations for the President's visit to Atlanta this Thursday? I know you all have been working overtime to get that petition ready to present it to him in person like real men.

"like real men."

Wow, "Carol," you can use "real men" as an insult, and simultaneously use "feminine side...stroking...pussy" as an insult.

You have issues. I believe I've mentioned that.

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"You will have a response within minutes generated by the Crank Letter Answer Bot." -k/q-

I was being sarcastic about expecting an answer to my fax to Obama. I don't think faxes (unlike personal letters) normally receive responses, even though they are required to have a return phone number - and mine have my legitimate home address on them, as well.

I've been faxing through NumbersUSA for months now, ever since asoka..and the SPLC suggested to me that they were the best of the immigration reduction organizations.

It's surprisingly easy to do. And it's free.
They provide the digital platform and a variety of basic messages - which the sender can personalize as he or she sees fit.
https://www.numbersusa.com/sendfax
This link will take you to their "Gang of Eight" fax - but you can establish an account and then login to send other faxes on a variety of immigration related topics.

I generally personalize my faxes with a PS related to environmental issues OR the plight of native born US minorities - as related to excessive LEGAL immigration and looming US overpopulation.

White identity politics is coming along just as our meta politics of progress is failing. Much like Serbian identity politics came along as the commmunist sham in Yugoslavia ran out of gas. Its alright though the death of the American empire is god's greatest gift to this right winger.

I want my nation back.

I'm noticing that as JHK gets closer and closer to examining the topography of the dying empire's heart, the more prolific are the rantings of the "racially aware" that distract us from that examination. (The littlest laddie put in a grueling shift last eve, trying to pull us into his dank and stinking little nigger-free burrow that he has hollowed out under the rock known as Ignorance and Oblivion.)

Why would that be?

And as the American Empire dissolves we can can its religion of Political Correctness. Censorhip and taboo won't patch up the failing center in this country anymore than the Bakken will put us all in Escalades.

Any of you lefties want to save Political Correctness? You know you cannot without appearing to be a joke.

"The trouble about arguments is, they ain't nothing but theories, after all, and theories don't prove nothing, they only give you a place to rest on a spell when you are tuckered out butting around and around trying to find out something there ain't no way to find out."
--Mark Twain

Welcome Dean Witter employee-person.
Please tell us why the stock market is so bullish in the present "economic climate" (street-level-wise), if you would be so kind.
Thank you.

(Unless it's all shenanigan-based; then there's no need to explain.)

The phrase 'Politically Correct' was first used by Comrade Stalin about 1932. In that time and place to be unpolitically correct meant certain death -- by execution or hard labor. In our own time political correctness is a form of censorship, indeed, an attempt to persuade people to censor themselves.

It basically renders the truth unsayable.

==CD

Hey Vladdy, Maybe you did not comprehend my post. My Mom is DEAD, She can't hear me. What now? A corpse has ears? I used to be a goat! I figure you were a maggot! Former lives do not matter. It is the way we live now that matters.I have to agree with A, live and love.

LOL. CN

Very interesting link posted @ archie's place.

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2013-02-11/rationally-speaking-we-are-all-apocalyptic-now

Here's an excerpt:
"This "revelation" is simple: We've built a world based on the assumption that we will have endless energy to subsidize endless economic expansion, which was supposed to magically produce justice. That world is over, both in reality and in dreams. Either we begin to build a different world, or there will be no world capable of sustaining a large-scale human presence.

If that's not clear: When we take seriously what physics, chemistry and biology tell us about the health of the living world on which we depend, we all should be thinking apocalyptically. Look at any crucial measure of the ecosphere...."

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And the ONLY thing that I can see that might have an impact on this madness - for me as a US citizen - is to lobby for reduction of US population growth, to stop the Growth Madness HERE, before it is altogether too late for us all.

To CFN, but Prog, Vlad and E in particular, I recommend reading Fred's latest essay titled Amnesty... then discuss amongst yourselves.

Here is the link to Fred if you need it.

http://www.fredoneverything.net/

Speaking of "constraints" and " the arbitrary" I could place a hammer on my head and call it a hat(if I balance it well enough); likewise, I could try and pound a nail with a cap. At some point though, "things" begin to naturally define themselves based on function/efficiency.

Or am I missing something, Tabor the Ape Man?

I think the tide of history might not be in your favor, P2C. When these 20-30 million illegals become citizens, the next step is to bring in their relatives from villages in Mexico. What's going to stop them? Any objections will be met with charges of racism and that you are against poor people and family unification. Assuming in these Mexican villages everybody is related, you could be looking at 200 million 'new Americans' in the next two decades. I understand your homestate of Georgia is already loaded with people from South of the Border. Get ready to welcome a bunch more. You might want to learn Spanish.

==ComradeDystopia

I could place a hammer on my head and call it a hat(if I balance it well enough)

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Yes, you could, but could you call it a scarcely donned, Bavarian hunting cap?

Yeah, I caught some of that act, perpetuated by "K-Dog" and his sidekick Baxter Black schtick clone otherwise known as "Ozone". And what an unfortunate moment in the life of the CFN comment section it was.

But really now, it just occurred to you that some might not be completely revealing themselves, or even disguising their identities on the World Wide Web? How old are you again? Oh never mind,why not just ask K-Dog, that cyber-speculating creep of a voyuer? But you may have to pull his inspective head out of Asoka's ass to in order to garner his attention.

But just for the record, I still believe Asoka to be black... and living in " The Land of Enchantment" below skies that make one fall to the ground and cry...like Robbie Robertson did before writing a song in its honor.

As a matter of fact P2C, you unfortunately may have to vacate that large, fine house you live in in Georgia for the sake of propriety and fairness. Is it fair just the two of you take up so much space and consume so many resources when so many people in the 3rd world, your brothers and sisters in the Eyes of God, go without? I would say No, it is not fair! 40 Mexicans can live comfortably in that house.

You have 24 hours to pack your things. And by the way, leave the truck.

==CD

What's not to like? It's a Taco Revolution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CklS8s0moVw

Hasta La Vista, Whopper!

TRUE FAIRNESS IN IMMIGRATION REFORM

Yeah, let’s balance things out. Calculate what percent of the total Mexican population is in the US illegally, and then allow an equal percentage amount from all the other countries to come here.

Of course, exempt all countries that are dominantly Caucasian and European because, as any so called Liberal will tell you, the US is already too White and too European. C’mon, why should Mexicans have advantage of a shared border to cross?

Another ameliorative correction to history might be to change our foreign policy and global military reach to removing the terrible scourge of Western influence from the world. Yeah, no more secular civil law, no more separation of church and state, no more influence of the Enlightenment and secular, science based apprehension of reality.

Yeah, all cultures and societies accepted uncritically (that is, unless they are “white”). That’ll fix the world’s problems.

A"nd what an unfortunate moment in the life of the CFN comment section it was."
-buck-

Why do you say that, buck?

If asoka..really was a DOD employee?
And evidence seems to lean that direction.

So - do you think he was posting here "as ordered," or do you think he was just wasting taxpayer time and abusing the DoD network?

"No, it is not fair! 40 Mexicans can live comfortably in that house.

You have 24 hours to pack your things. And by the way, leave the truck." -cd-

Yeah, I realize I seem to be on the wrong side of history, in this. The brainwashing of the American populace on this issue is something to behold.

Friends of mine who are far more conservative than I - still strongly believe in the Grow, Grow forever dream, and therefore believe that more immigration is good, as long as it is LEGAL.

They will learn they were terribly wrong, if they live that long and have eyes to see.

And as regards my house and truck, that's some pretty good symbolism. 40 illegals COULD live here. That would be enough to overrun the septic tank so would start flushing their pathogens and toxins into the town's drinking water - only a couple of miles downstream.

Perfect irony, right?

Speaking of irony, cd wasn't just a few short months ago that you were admiring the illegals in your area for being such great family men, and fishing in that river.

I wonder if they had a fishing license?
I wonder if they followed catch and release rules, and the rest of the fishing regulations?

Something tells me, "no."

Or the line from the Lennon song -

"I've got nothing to say, but its okay."

But does he live in a mud hut?

Methinks not.

You may end up having to simply take possetion of a part of the farm, if only to keep some of the land in the family. That farmland, however much it may now be being mismanaged, is an asset that your family ought not, I would think, allow to be passed into other hands. If enough of you become unemployed maybe you could insist that the proprietors step aside and let more sensible and responsible people run the place. A plan of that sort might be something that some of your relatives, who I suppose want to be nice, could agree upon. "If things get bad enough for enough of us, maybe then you could agree to..."


Q. said:

To CFN, but Prog, Vlad and E in particular, I recommend reading Fred's latest essay titled Amnesty... then discuss amongst yourselves.
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Dante had this idea of nine circles of Hell to denote the idea of RELATIVE evil rather than ABSOLUTE evil. Personally, I am data driven and what does that data say? Well, it says that the BLACK population of the USA is, far and away, the most intractably bad with regard to crime and educational underperformance. I've actually been pleasantly surprised that, since the conversion of East Palo Alto from virtually all Black to mostly Mexicans, the place isn't nearly the shit hole it once was.

Does that mean I love Mexican culture, in general? Well, I give it mixed reviews but, then again, I'm giving White culture mixed reviews these days ... but mostly because Whites, especially White youth, seem to be emulating ghetto/barrio fashion and behavior much more of late. Mexicans in California work hard and are virtually NEVER to be found on the streets panhandling. It's Blacks and Whites who are panhandling. Mexican families mostly stay together and in retail businesses, they are very courteous to whites.

The downside? Mexican "culture" is almost an oxymoron since their primary form of music here in California is Mariachi music which is of GERMAN origin. However, I'll take that any day of the week over hip hop and most rap. On the other hand, there's also no doubt that Mexican crime in the USA is way, way above White crime and gang activity is indisputably large. They also put very little stock in education and the mental variegation and refinement that it offers.

By the way, Q., don't you object to calling Mexicans "Hispanics"? You're rather a language purist and Mexicans are overwhelmingly Amerindian. Argentines are TRULY "Hispanic" since their population really does largely come from Spanish roots. That's not true of Mexico.

So, bottom line, I'm not thrilled with Mexican immigration but it doesn't bum me out like the Black inner cities of the East Coast and Midwest which are less safe than BAGHDAD a decade ago.


E.


I like your idea of letting equal amounts of other cultures in if we're going to give amnesty to all Mexicans. The truth is, however, that if you have a NORWEGIAN wife, you'll have a tougher time and a longer wait getting her in here than getting a Mexican bride in here. The INS tortures American men who wed European women.

And your point seems obvious to me (but probably not to the bleeding heart types on CFN) i.e., that we'd be a helluva lot better off if we brought over more, say, Scandinavians, just out of a sense of fairness. However, CP, I don't think Europeans want to leave their nests over there and I can't say as I blame them.


E.

Like I said last week, this is when we will see a backlash. The 11 million are here now, it is the future, as in 2-3 years from now, influx of relatives we just can't live without which will provoke a backlash.

The way to avoid charges of racism is to call for a moratorium of 5-10 years on ALL immigration from anywhere.


CD said:
It basically renders the truth unsayable.
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I think this is the very definition of how "political correctness" is practiced. It is ORWELLIAN liberalism and open dialog about tough issues is verboten. That's why the discussion of difficult issues like Black destruction of American inner cities isn't even allowed and, if found, is crushed out of existence.

If an indisputable truth says something bad about somebody, its discussion is deeply censured.


E.

nailed it E, I am totally cranky this week. Pulled Hamstring, can't walk, roofs leakin', snow up the yazoo, and no god damn sleep. Keep up the good fight!

Backlash? What backlash? There isn't going to be any backlash. If your owners want immigration, "legal" or "illegal," then you'll get immigration, and there is NOTHING you can do about it. NOTHING. Except, complain about it in the backwater of cyberspace.

Yeah, and the discussion of the destruction wrought by Methamphetamine use/abuse in Red State America. Just like the corrupt inner cities, except it's mostly a white issue, and it's more widely spread and less concentrated than the large urban centers.

If an indisputable truth says something bad about somebody, its discussion is deeply censured.
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See link below.

http://www.gingersoftware.com/english-online/spelling-book/confusing-words/censor-censure

Let me guess. You all will blame the following on the Jews, or the Illegal Immigrants, or the Liberals, or the Feminists, or the Atheists, or the Communists, or the Gays, or anything else you can find, because, God forbid, nothing could ever be your own fault.

http://www.reasontopia.com/red-states-meth-states/

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We have already done an article on the fact that the red states take more federal dollars than the blue states. They are the true welfare queens. But still there is a misguided belief by many on the right that liberal states and people are the “freeloaders”. Well, if that wasn’t enough, we now find that meth usage is more prevalent in the red states.

We hear a lot about the South and Midwest, you know, the part that many Republicans call “the Real America.” It’s “more wholesome”. It’s more “family-oriented”. It’s more “religious”. It’s “more self-sufficient”. Well, those all sound like nice bumper stickers but it is also the epicenter of the American meth epidemic. Stick that on your bumper.

Oh, I forgot. For a complete redress of all the wrongs of the US, America must surrender its favorable population/resource ratio and level it against the global population density by admitting unrestricted immigration until our density here reflects that of the global whole.

But too, the influx must reflect a skin tone and cultural blend as representative as possible as the spread across the world.

Cost? Well that’ll just have to be a burden to bear as penance for having been the only nation in history to have had slavery, or discrimination, or exploitation of minorities, or practiced genocide, etc., etc., and which objective examination of world history shows that no people of color or non-European societies ever were guilty of.

By the way, Q., don't you object to calling Mexicans "Hispanics"? You're rather a language purist and Mexicans are overwhelmingly Amerindian.
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I am largely ignorant on these titles. If I understand correctly one is on fairly firm ground using the term Latino for Spanish speaking people, especially of any shade of brown. Am I right there?

Hey P2C, you're right about that.

Consistency has never been one of my strong points.

I think I was describing a Mexican family fishing for perch in the Farmington River on a Sunday afternoon just like we used to do years ago. They even arrived in an old Ford. I recall a bunch of kids running around and the old man drinking beer from a can. It all looked pretty familiar.

And what a contrast to what my neighbors are like here now, most of whom wouldn't be caught dead fishing in the river. No time anyway, what with the exotic vacations, political activism (left wing do-gooder type), huge mcmansions, summer cottages on the sound, big boats, trips to the casino, trips to WestFarms Mall and maintaining their fleets of German automobiles.

Its the little ones that clinched it. Nobody here wants anything bad to happen to any little kids no matter where they come from. That's what males this such a hard problem.

==CD

In both Posession and Multiple Personality Disorder, there is usually a chief personality. The chief personality of the Asoka complex, who called himself Asoka.. admitted that he was caught and laughed at what he had put over on us. Everyone was fooled to some degree, I don't know why you feel you have to defend your personal confusion. Perhaps because you bought into the twisted world view that Asoka presented? That I hold to your account: it was pure craziness yet because of his cyber Blackness, you accepted it all. Now that he is gone, you already seem to be recovering: "Asoka" would never have approved of your distaste for the massive amnesty.

If you want further Asoka type guidance, may I suggest Carol Newquist?

Your mother is more alive than ever. She merely dropped her body. Surely you don't believe that consciousness can be reduced to just chemicals? Why let death destroy your relationship with her? She may be be watching/listening right now...

It's not a dank burrow but a south facing Hobbit Hole with Windows. And what could be more delightful than a Schwartzen Free place where kids could play outide until after dark on long summer nights? Read Bradbury's "Dandelion Wine" for what we once had and could have again. Comrade
Ozone!, we share so many of the same viewpoints. Accept that this is so and learn the art of bile reduction. The South was right. Blacks don't belong in White Society. Whites have the right to self determination. It's all clear. We are wating for you.

You think my White Nationalism is approved by the Feds? Madness. Can you imagine a White Nationalist terrorist getting off on a technicality and going on to teach at a major University and be a confidant of the rich and powerful - including a President? You know, just like Bill Ayers has done? Well I can't and neither can any sensible person. White Nationalists don't get off on technicalities but they do get convicted by them. There's one poor schmoe doing twenty years for throwing a rock thru a Synagogue window....

Imaginary Box

The imaginary box on the top of your body, the box everyone is trying to manipulate, everyone is trying to affirm their rules, the way they see things, as every brain gives the illusion as being the only brain, the only view, the view that occupies all space and all time, and we simply pay lip service to "politically correct" and "respect of other people's opinion and views" and other BS. Because the entire concept of justice and law and envy and wanting to punish and so forth, all the political fights make it appear as if the BOX is one only and everyone is trying to make the combinations in the BOX be the way they want them to be, but since the combinations are infinite, and since everyone wants the generalized and absolute reality represented by the Imaginary Box to be they way they want it, they exert the fight their will power forces them to exert, as if that box is in some abstract world shared by all and everything, valid for all space and time and so forth.

The entire concept of morality and Law, the metaphysical rules imposed by religions, right and wrong, the wars and such, politics and fights are all because of this imaginary "common world" this imaginary metaphysical abstract "Imaginary Box" - the brain, that must behave and follow the values and laws any random brain (nay, group of brains, country, civilization, religion, a set of brains that affirm what the imaginary box must be by sheer numbers) believes must be the correct ones.

And yet the brain as an imaginary abstract box containing all and all of the world appears to be
exactly as such given the perfect logical and abstract nature of its logic circuits, all of its language and thought paths, the absolute and generalized sequence of patterns associated with sequence of words, with sequence of discourse everyone can understand, can connect to, the logic and language and thought paths being so purely perfect and abstract and logical, pure bits, pure logic, no extension here, and as such this box on the top of your body contains all of these abstract constructions inside of it, and as such all boxes of all people contain similar abstract constructions make it all appear as one place, one entity, a monolithic abstract imaginary box that is undergoing a tug of war between contrasting will powers wanting the box to contain and interact according to some arbitrary interaction set and such.

And as such when it is said "Justice is Made", when someone is condemned according to the law and such, when someone wins the war, when god judges and punishes according to the rules: in that moment, the moment Justice is Made and such, the imaginary box appears to be a shared entity, a shared common monolithic entity that everyone thinks must behave and appear as one (a common construction, a monolithic entity everyone is helping to construct,in the same box but that is valid for all space and all time, just as the world appears to any single brain), being that the box is all, is the universe all and all, the box represents all of which is possible and such. The box of pure logic circuits (but if the minds had more extension between the logic symbols and circuits, more dead time and dead space, more undefined and random details - pebbles, car tires, broken glasses and windows and so forth, cracks, between all its logic, the imaginary box would no longer be such, there would be too much random detail in the common "platonic world" to make it appear so pure anymore, it would be wild and fun and crazy and no one could make much sense of it, the common world finally defeated, the imaginary box collapsed, finally, details prevail random wins, no more platonic structures here, no more metaphysical world here, now it is all crazy detailed random having no sense, where there is nothing to fight for, very localized and not generalized and absolute, completely relative and such). We worship the imaginary box and common world it represents, we devote ourselves to this god, this abstract place, this metaphysical construction of minds operating according to reason, all intent on constructing this common monolithic place containing the correct laws, the correct events, the history of the world must be a correct one and such.

But there is no such thing, it is just an illusion, there is no Imaginary Box, the abstract constructions live in an abstract world that makes the box appear real and all, but this is just one very particular fluke design of a brain, another design will change all of this and so forth.

Ape Cock says, now, go on and stick it in the Rant House, go on do that, go on, Barbie Crazy, Cinderella Confused, SHpac a LAc SHpa a shlac a speck...

First Gear its all right, Second gear hold on tight, third gear you're out of sight, groovy man, groovy, dig it man, can you dig it ? dig it, sock it to me,..

APE HEAD


As ever, it comes down to race, the least understood and therefore most talked about subject. And deservedly so: it must be understood. Our fo-fathers didn't talk much about it because they understood it.

Fred don't get it. Latin America is prosperous to the extent it is White. Southern Brazil is prosperous because White. Mexico is prosperous where Whites are. Mexico is benefiting by giving us its poor and ignorant Mestizos. Their gain is our loss. Sure some of them can make a go of it: many do work hard and also make massive use of social services. But they will also tend to support the radicals who want their own Nation. It's just human nature. Look at the Blacks: often the most intelligent are the most radical.

On the other hand, as Fred said, we don't have the will - which is another way of saying we are a Nation anymore. The Mexicans know this and dream of stepping up to become a new Elite. Nature abhors a vacuum... What can I say? He's a smart man and he doesn't hate Whites. He knows our cause is just and has spoken at Amren Conferences. But he has made other choices by marrying a Mexican. He doesn't accept IQ stats that show Blacks and Mestizos being less intelligent so the debate with him is stymied right there. I appreciate that at least he is not stupidly sanguine and knows it might all go bad.

Enjoy your greese laden tacos, dear.

I will be having soup made from ingredients I grew and bread baked from flour grown near to where I live without chemical intervention and milled nearby without extra additives being added. This I can afford because I do not spend at fast food joints, incl. roach coaches.

We shall see who lives longer.

Oh, and you can shell out for the immigrant housekeeper, enjoy having your personal life discussed throughout your community and I am sure you can manage just fine with a few small family trinkets you will soon be missing. You have soo much, after all. You can have your plants blowdried into extinction, you really didn't want that rare and unusual lily you ordered at great cost, did you? I mean, the mow & blow guy never saw one before so how was he to know it wasn't a weed, and besides that his MOM never got to have anything like your lily so who do you think you are anyway?

The Mexican radicals take offence since they identify with their Aztec heritage. I don't know how common this viewpoint is, but they are very influential. I think Chicano is an acceptable term to them but not Mexican, Hispanic, or Latino since all of those are European to some degree or other.

Enjoy your greese laden tacos, dear.

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I've never heard of tacos made with goose flesh. A new recipe. Nice word, and typical "American" laziness to combine grease and geese.

I don't eat much "Mexican," and when I do, I make it myself. I'm not one for cheap Mexican food.

I bet I can do more chin-ups than you.

You ask, "so who do you think you are anyway?"

I'm someone who doesn't like Whoppers. It's not too complicated. I don't like Chihuahuas, either. Add racist bigots to that list. It's a really long list, by the way.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Fred located in Mexico? If so, more irony. "Americans" have to be the most ironic people on the face of the planet. Seriously, you can't make this shit up. Larry David can write his entire next season, if there is one, just from reading the CFN comments section.

Changing the subject...

I glanced up from my laptop to my big TV which is tuned to CNBC (you know, business/stock market stuff) from morning till night Monday through Friday and a guy was being interviewed who I have seen on the show a dozen or so times over the years. His name (if I heard it correctly, my hearing has deteriorated badly) is Dan Niles. I am nearly certain he is Indian (dot, not feather, Tm Lucky 13) and probably Southern Indian because he is VERY dark. He is probably in his late 30s or early-40s, handsome and has great salt and pepper hair (more salt than pepper) that belies his years. He is at least as dark as Shaquille O'Neal.

"Yeah, and your point?" you ask.

This guy Niles speaks American English like you and I. If I had simply listened without raising my head to look I would NEVER know a dark Southern Indian was talking. I speculate that Niles is a second generation American or possibly 3rd generation, i.e. either his parents or perhaps his grand parents immigrated into the US. Thus, he has had the time necessary to absorb American English and abandon the mother tongue of his forebears.

Why does Shaquille O'Neal (whose American heritage must surely go back 200+ years) NOT speak what you and I think of as Standard American English? Is it a matter of can't or won't?

And BTW, while typing just now I looked up and saw that a Black man, first name Reggie, was part of a 3-man discussion. Like Niles he was sharp and well dressed but I didn't need to see him to know he was Black.

This non-absorption into the mainstream, language-wise, is a perennial subject and sore point with me. Maybe Asoka.. will return and explain why this is.

Another aside: I looked up again and Lloyd Blankfein was being interviewed. I heard him begin ONLY two sentences with the offensive "Look."

"By the way, Q., don't you object to calling Mexicans "Hispanics"? You're rather a language purist and Mexicans are overwhelmingly Amerindian. Argentines are TRULY "Hispanic" since their population really does largely come from Spanish roots. That's not true of Mexico"

Argentina is White because the Spaniards killed
all the Indians, yes?

And Janos, after the invaders stole the gold and enslaved the natives, how can the brown skinned be prosperous?

Let's have a bake off between you, Carol, and SJ -to be judged by the Men of Clusterfuck. The prize will be a free dinner out with the Male Clusterfucker of your choice.

Be doesn't cook so she is regretfully excluded. She and her husband take turns with the Ramen instant dinners.

As usual, Fred gets more right than he gets wrong.

"It is not now or never. It is thirty years ago or never. This limits the options."
-fred, on deporting all the "Latinos"-

Fred's right about this. It was roughly 1983 when the besotted St. Ronald Reagan presided over the FIRST large legalization of illegals. WageLaborer talked about how the schools in California emptied, as all THOSE newly legal folks took the kids home for an extended visit to their Abuelita.

But I'd like to talk to Fred. With his references to the "Mexican" border and "Latinos," Fred seems to be lumping all of the illegals in the US together and then calling them by the wrong name. There are all of these racist gradations in Mexico, and Fred seems to want to sweep them all under the rug. The upper crust of "Mexicans" is as white as Fred is. Beyond that - the darker the skin and the more "rural?" or "unconnected" a persons origin in Mexico - the greater their difficulty in rising in Mexican society. (IOW, a Guatemalan fares poorly and digs ditches. Someone of Castillian descent starts at the top and stays there.)

I've gotten off the subject a little, above, but I'll leave it in - mainly to make the point that Mexico has been gleefully exporting what the upper levels of Mexican society think of as their "problems" to the US - for many years.

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Something else Fred gets right is when he says, "Now, if the Latinos are in the US, and are not going to leave, it might be wise to find a modus vivendi, a means of avoiding the breaking of the country into a third hostile camp. What are the prospects of doing this?

I’m not sure. But I can foresee the consequences
of not doing it."

I can foresee the consequences as well as Fred, and the consequences are bad. BUT, to go from this fear of bad consequences to a full-blown BLANKET PERMANENT legalization, especially one that includes a "automatic US citizenship" is morally wrong.

And anything that leads to more "chain migration" more "birthright citizenship" or more of anything else that increases the population of the United States on our finite landmass on this finite planet that we live on -
IS JUST PLAIN STUPID!

IMHO, of course.

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Something else about Fred, he seems to have no particular grasp of "peak everything." Thus he doesn't realize that the population of the US is more likely to descend to 150,000,000 or less - than it is to ASCEND to some astronomical level that includes millions MORE of Fred's "Latinos."

If he could see all that, then Fred would be likely be urging those Latinos to STAY HOME, and make things better for their families where they are.

That's what I'm trying to do.

By their own standards, they might be prosperous even now although by our's they are not. The Builder Race of the Inca, Maya, and Aztec cities were Nordic Whites. We know that the Inca and the Aztec were usurpers of previous White/Indian Civilizations. And the Maya speak much about them as well. Do not hate me, but rather take pride in what you do have. I'm not the highest Nordic type either.

From the web:
Conservapedia has a few things posted about Wiki!

This is from Yahoo:

The Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. is a non-profit charitable organization based in St. Petersburg, Florida, USA, and organized under the laws of the state of Florida. It operates several online collaborative projects including Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikibooks (including Wikijunior), Wikisource, Wikimedia Commons, Wikispecies, Wikinews, Wikiversity, and Meta-Wiki.

Its existence was officially announced by Wikipedia co-founder[3][4] Jimmy Wales, who was running Wikipedia within his company Bomis, on June 20, 2003.
Its approval by the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, by letter in April 2005, as an educational foundation in the category "Adult, Continuing Education" means all contributions to the Wikimedia Foundation are tax deductible for U.S. federal income tax purposes.

Anyone can post on Wiki, if 'they' dont like it
well, it may be scrubbed.

I do not know what 'Rational Wiki' is nor do I know if it lives up to its lofty name.

Do you read Drudge?
Did you see the link to the article:
Woman goes for abortion at 8+ months pregnant'?

"nailed it E, I am totally cranky this week."
-st. elmo, agreeing with E's post-

St., you're one of the last folks I'd want to cross on this blog. Probably in real life, too.

But, E's post essentially said that blacks were shiftless, lazy and thuggish. And E said that he prefers "Mexicans" because they are not as lazy, shiftless, or thuggish as are the blacks - despite that fact that E does not care for Mariachi music, of German origin.

Isn't it racist to prefer one race to another?

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On a more serious note, the thought has been crossing my mind that allowing all of these brown-skinned immigrants into the United States is MOSTLY about replacing the black population - as workers and technicians, with potential access to a middle class standard of living.

And it's also about importing a NEW underclass to oppress and fight with the old underclass, to the benefit of the largely white (looking?) upper class.

If I were black and insightful, that's probably the way I'd be looking at it by now, anyway.

Even though it means that the SPLC, the ACLU, and even the NAACP sold me and my people out, long ago, in favor of their new immigrant darlings.

That means it's all about money - not justice.

And you wonder why I'd speak Ebonics, K?

It was yet another example of him flouting his authority.
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It should be flaunting. Look up definitions and I'm sure you'll agree.

Also, from your description, the only instance of the guard having flaunted his authority was the telling of lame jokes (in particular one offensive to women). Everything else you described sounded like descriptions of routine guard activity, like collecting the visitor badges. In what way was his telling of jokes "yet another example...etc."

As a matter of fact even the telling of jokes was not an instance of flaunting his authority since the jokes were completely outside the realm of his job functions. (I see here the same character flaw as Mot with his pathetically un-cute "cute stories.")

Had he, on the contrary, walked the lobby area in an officious manner like the menacing station manager played by Sacha Baron Cohen in the movie Hugo, perhaps twirling a billy club and had he questioned you about the possessions in a briefcase and stared at you with a look of guilty until proved innocent, and had he made a show of buffing his mirror shined shoes and his rent-a-cop badge... THEN you might declare these as examples of his flaunting of authority.

But, it's YOUR story, I don't want to hijack it.

I DO like the way you have stirred doubt in readers minds about the underlying character of innocuous seeming people. We might be standing in the Piggly Wiggly checkout line behind a mass murderer. And when you look at every thing in the world as not only a glass half empty but rather completely empty you are well set up for pleasant surprises.

P.S. I assume we will be finding out in a future installment what was so important about taking the picture of Dad's friend Al with you out of the building?

Why does Shaquille O'Neal... NOT speak what you and I think of as Standard American English?
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Re the above and before it slips my mind, tune in to Jeopardy tonight. For the past two weeks the competition has been among high school students. I think tonight is the final. They're down to 3 boys. One is Black and has hair as ridiculous as Buckwheat's but he's smart as a whip (or, at least, has a terrific memory for all sorts of trivia), a resonant base voice and speaks perfect American English totally free of Ebonics. It's astonishing and proves to me that it CAN be done.

All 3 boys are terrific. It's a two day affair and today is day two. The nerdiest of the 3 is in the lead.

Good review of a book whose author has traveled a bit further than you on the road to racial truth, but still has a ways to go. The author is enraged at affirmative action's discrimination against Whites - and he admits that the Leftists knew exactly what they were doing. And that the old Southern Racists say through it while Liberal Whites did not. But he still reveres the ultimate shibboleth and idol Martin Luther King - as if King would be against this. If King had lived, such idolatry wouldn't be possible since he was for all of it.

http://www.amren.com/features/2013/02/self-inflicted-wounds/

should be "saw through it" not say

Oh you must be Anti. I thought for a minute we were going to have a conversation. But like him, you jumped onto another topic to avoid such a terrible thing. I don't usually get to Drudge, though he does great work.

Eight months is nothing. The doctors have the right to kill babies being born as long as they are still inside. Sometimes mistakes happen and one is born anyway. Dr Paul related how he saw one such unfortunate left in a bucket to die. After all, it had been declared non human by a Woman - whom our stupid culture worship as divinities.

Agree, it should be flaunting. I'm not quite sure why I had flouting. I made the revision, and I am taking your point about whether or not he was flaunting his authority into consideration. I may remove that line, or alter it entirely. Maybe. There is a part of me that wants to keep it, because I want the reader, in this case you, to want to cut the guy some slack. Overstating the case helps accomplish that, and afterall, the narrator did state that his perspective is the glass as empty, meaning he often presents the worst case, or in this scenario, the worst face.

By the way, Al's picture remains in the building. If you recollect, Steve made a big deal about it and the narrator found it, i.e. recovered it, so when that's mentioned as they make their way to the "finish line," it's done so as to indicate a list of accomplishments, or small feats, during their brief visit.

As it stands now, I have no further plans for that picture of Al. I'm going to do a couple of more installments, the last of which will be a segue into another act of the novel. This is just the prologue, or prelude of the excitement that's about to unfold. Recollection of memories will provide some refreshing pause amidst the turmoil that's about to be unleashed. You're being lulled at this point, and you have no clue what's about to be dropped on your head.

I hope she is not watching now. I am burning crucifixes in the fireplace to keep the house warm..

Isn't it racist to prefer one race to another? Of course and what's wrong with that? Doesn't one have the right to ones's own judgement, like and dislikes? To have to hire or rent to people who don't like is tryanny. There is no viable pursuit of happiness without freedom of association.

And of course objective evidence shows the races to be different in terms of temperment and ability - just like other sub species in other species. You know that greyhounds act different than pit bulls? Right?

In Israel, they use T instead of + in arithmetic because they are so afraid of the power of the cross. You are brave but unwise.

Sir (or Knave),
I take umbrage with the "Baxter Black" comparison. (I had to look him up.) A scurrilous and baseless accusation!
I am not now, nor have I ever been a large-animal veterinarian... ;o)

Just for your information, I am not K-dog's cat's paw, nor is he mine. If I happen to agree with his viewpoint, theory, etc., or should he happen to agree with mine, that's nothing more than what is on the very face of it. No conspiracy on this count.

(I wrote a lot more with hackles raised, but deleted it. Tiresome and overwrought; no more need be said.)

"a resonant base voice"

doubtless you meant bass, schoolmarm. unless you meant that his voice was damaged as a result of smoking free base cocaine. but in that case i doubt his voice would be resonant.

as an act of contrition you may refrain from niggling corrections of other people's typos for the remainder of this week.

"Why does Shaquille O'Neal (whose American heritage must surely go back 200+ years) NOT speak what you and I think of as Standard American English? Is it a matter of can't or won't?" -Q.

Won't.
This goes directly to Rhino/Cash's [many] screeds on assimilation or the deliberate resistance to it.
I can't figure what Shaq's excuse would be. He's certainly enough of an outstanding athlete to not feel an overarching need to be distinguished from the madding crowd. (...And it IS all about, "lookatme, lookatme!", isn't it? That's what our so-called culture has devolved to, and it seems to be "a consummation. Devoutly to be wished.")

The picture of Al was recovered.
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You explained that the picture of Al was not removed from the building but the above sentence could certainly be interpreted otherwise. At a minimum it is misleading. How about "found" rather than "recovered?"

Other things:

You wrote, "I’m pleasantly surprised because the worst, or nothing even closely resembling it, rarely manifests.

The bolded word needs to be either "anything" or "something."

You wrote, "we may have caught incontinence." I like this line although I'm guessing only a minority of readers would "get it." My mother died at age 84 in a Florida nursing home of Alzheimer's. On entering the facility one was nearly bowled over by the stench of urine. Your line above implies facetiously that the inability to hold one's water (incontinence) is a communicable disease if one is around it too long.

In the penultimate paragraph you enumerate the following: "where he keeps chains, whips, lots of leather and ball gags and the Gimp." In the last paragraph you use nearly identical language leaving out only "lots of leather." To me, repeating a list [nearly] verbatim is tiresome and it would have been better in that last paragraph to say "escape the possibility of his hideaway with its awful implements of torture" or some such.

"they wear the funny hat that look likes an inverted Dixie cup"

looks like

Final comment: You implied on last weeks thread that your story would continue but you really didn't know in what direction... and that the direction would result from following "your muse." It was hard for me to imagine that a novel could be written without a pretty firm advance idea of its direction...beginning, middle and end. Now, in responding to my earlier critique you indicate you know full well where this story is headed. This makes a lot more sense to me.

LOL
Maybe this?:
base: mean - vile - low - ignoble - sordid - scurvy
However, the context certainly wouldn't indicate it.
;o)

doubtless you meant bass, schoolmarm.
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No, I meant base as in morally low, dishonorable, meanspirited, etc. You see, Shecky, bass, being fish, cannot talk. ;-)

Anyway, I cannot go niggle-less for an entire 5 more days. I would loose my mind.

as an act of contrition you may refrain from niggling corrections of other people's typos for the remainder of this week.
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The Last Pope will be Peter the Roman.

You have already shit on America via Hollwood, now you want the Cap too? Why not use Al Capp's instead?

Standard American English, accent and accents aside, is more or less the same as the English spoken by the educated Britisher. If Niles parents or grandparents came from India, standard British English may have been the sort of English he'd been speaking since childhood, since that was the version he'd likely heard at home.

The English ruled India from the mid-seventeenth century till 1947, and left behind a strong cultural imprint. English is still India's lingua franca, and East Indians of the upper rank take pride in speaking and writing the grammatically correct form of it.

In fact, up until maybe a generation ago, many of these high caste Indians acted more English than the English-- high tea, cricket, the drawling speech of the Oxford aesthete. The English reply was to dismiss these copycats as wogs, as in "the wogs begin at Calais." The quintessence of this type was Nehru.

The parents of Shaquille O'Neal didn't have the British as their model.

THE ABOVE POST IS FOR KYOOSHTIK.

Sounds like fun. I love to bake.

I'll pass on the dinner out, but tickets to hear the best soprano you never heard of (nor has Peter Gelb), Mary Elizabeth Williams, perform Tosca, one of her signature roles, would be lovely.

Right on target, JAM. The disintegration of the English language within our own borders is, I believe, a problem of undetermined proportions. The clarity of thought evident in your comment is remarkable (though it shouldn't be).

One of the most prominently mentioned papabile is Peter Cardinal Turkson, from Ghana. He currently resides in Rome where he is part of the Vatican govt., so the designation 'Peter of Rome' does fit.

I am eagerly awaiting watching the Fox newsbabes flipping out over a (gasp) Black man occupying the chair of St. Peter. Naturally, the dear chicklets are too blessed ignorant to know that the fisherman himself was not white.

I neither know nor care who you are; I shall leave all such speculation to others.

Again, you are not good at verbal games, give it up already, before whoever is paying you replaces you with someone a little more competent.

The parents of Shaquille O'Neal didn't have the British as their model.
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No, they had the real thing -- Standard American English -- on the streets, in the schools, on the radio, and on the TV, 24/7/365 but refused to buy in to the mainstream lingo. What a damn shame. It's like 50 million people have decided to go through life with one arm tied behind their backs.

I know, converse, and correspond regularly with educated Indians in the US, Dubai, Mumbai, Pune, and Vadodara and although their speech is very good it is far from the degree of perfection you describe. We are all familiar with maddening calls to tech support that are routed to Bangalore, New Delhi, etc.

BTW, did you see Jeopardy. The Black kid who speaks SAE won. It CAN be done.

Children learn what they live.
He learned his dialect as a preschooler.

When will this happen?
And then what?
Can you line up the Hindu /Buddhist/ Meher Baba
predictions with Catholic?
And if so, what do you divine?

Yoganandas student Kriyananda has a little booklet 'The Road Ahead' but judging by some of the stories about Yoganandas predictions, not so sure I can believe that much.

One tale I was told was that the USAs economy would collapse via hyperinflation around year 2000.
Another was Boston [he lived there around 1920 or 30] would by 2020 be inhabited with Brown skinned people and have tropical or semi tropical climate.

However he told one California devotee that that person would live long enough to see the decline of California and the rise of Homeless people,
which he did.

Children learn what they live.
He learned his dialect as a preschooler
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Blacks learned that if they acted too smart and talked like "the man" they might get the shit kicked out of them by their peers. Their are consequences for crossing certain cultural lines.

Mexico is collapsing into narco terror.
Only military might keeps us from this...now
or later.

I hear the essence of your argument, but there are a multitude of professional blacks who speak standard English. And they socialize with other, I guess I should say, middle or upper middle class people, both black and white. It's a class thing. Who do you spend your time with? That will determine how you talk more than anything else.

Perhaps w. the departure of Asoka [aka R.I.]
someone saw a chance to be RI2 aka Carol.

there are a multitude of professional blacks who speak standard English.
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Gather all the educated and professional Blacks and Whites in the country, those who live and work in upper middle class and higher circles. Have each one call me anonymously on the phone and sight unseen I'll name the race of 9 out of 10.

When those Black professionals go home from work at night they will revert to a lower grade of American English when in the presence of Blacks only.

Castles made of sand slip into the sea eventually. You are all going to have to go back to a simpler, agrarian lifestyle and work in harmony with nature or perish. The beginning of the end happened in 1492. Read it and weep. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVuluSPsbgE

I see nothing but doom. All the New Age types are crazy. Traditional Hinduism says things will get worse for the next 420,000 years until people are only two feet tall, have sharp teeth, and eat their own children, and copulate with their parents. Sri Yukteshwar said that they got their zeroes wrong in the Middle Ages and that Kali Yuga was almost over - thus Yogananda's Prophecies I suppose.

Actually Catholic Prophecy is quite complex and says the End is not near. The Church is supposed to make a miraculous recovery from near death, crush the Muslims in Europe, and become the dominant religion on Earth producing countless Great Saints. To faciliate this, a Great Pope will arise as well as a Great King - a descendant of Charlemagne himself. The Anti-Christ is thus probably a couple of centuries away from this point of view.

Isn't the tone of the voice different too - apart from any and all cultural and environmental influences? To my ear, Blacks have a softer and deeper voice.

Give me your number and I'll get some professional blacks to call you. Take the plunge and let's see what happens.

Yes the first Peter was a Jew - good call. It's fine if a Black is elected as long as that is not why he is elected. Hopefully they're not going to act pathetic like the Republicans did when they made Michael Steele head of the Party, obviously a desperate and bizarre attempt to copy the Democrats.

Investments - Part Two

Economists always reason within the categories of Profit, Gain, Investment and such and that is how the world must be, is forced to be, will be no matter what: the entire fix and obsession on "Economic Growth" is all about Profits, future profits, future profits from Investments and such, the entire fix on this, the entire obsession on growth at any cost is always tied into the idea that money has to increase (and in fact it is forced to increase in the end through inflation and especially pumping up the prices of homes, a basic need, and health care a basic need so as to squeeze people to pay more for basic needs since our society can no longer really go forward now, now it is all about fighting between each other for basic needs), that a gain has to be made, that a profit must be maid and naturally this occurs when markets are "Expanding", "Growing"; when you can sell more stuff, when there is more "Activity" and such. And so it is with all the numbers and statistics, all of them are really only measures on how much possible profit can be and will be made in the future, and the corollary "Debts", as if debts must be made so that profits are forced to be made no matter what, since now the debts must be paid back and the only wat to pay them back is by gaining a profit, hence the necessity for economies to grow, for the GDP to grow, so that all the future debts are a smaller ratio to what is being "produced" and such.

But it is an illusion, very few activities will generate much profit anymore, most of the real "innovative" and ground breaking novelties and new markets and activities and such of the 20th century have been done and are over and done with: Apple is the model with their inventing and producing iphones that sell like crazy and such, but how mnany new things like that can be invented ? how many times can that happen ?? not much really, only once in a while, and as time goes by, ever longer while. And then all of the profits are always measured relative to from where they came from, never absolutely: case in point, Apple is "over the hill now", Apple no longer is "growing" and such, so then Apple is no longer a good investment: it doesn't matter that their level of profits is science fiction for 99 % of companies worldwide (20 billion dollars, a truly insane amount of money), that it is insane that a company makes so much profits on such a puny item like a telephone, but the economists and investors measure it according to the last quarter and such, and if it isn't increasing it is "bad" and such (no matter where it came from, like economies, JAPAN is truly the 4th richest country in the world, is hugely rich compared to almost anyplace else, is totally developed, organized, has solved all of their problems (it is virtually impossible for such a country to grow any further, it just can't be done, like it is impossible for Apple to make 10 billion dollars more profits every year forever), and such, but since they are not growing, they are in a stagflation, they are in bad shape when 99 % of the world will never even hope to achieve such level of wealth and such), totally insane way of seeing things, yet the logic is like a drone, like an a idiot, it must always go up no matter what.

And what is worse the economists, investors and such assign a morality factor to the missing growth or profit, someone is to blame, someone didn't do what they should, that is why the economies don't grow and such (increase pension ages in Europe, change the labor laws, beat up people as much as possible, fire public workers, the morality factor - punish them since they didn't make me make a profit, since the economies aren't growing anymore, they are guilty of not respecting the automatic god of money always having to increase no matter what, they must be punished, especially the weaker classes (but they never say that home prices should crash, maybe then economic activity could get a small boost, but they never say this because their real goal is the profits, is the gain no matter what and in order to get this home prices must always go up no matter what, in the USA home prices increasing again is a good sign, they are never looking at the normal worker who has to pay more for a basic need, they just look at the generalized imaginary good, the moral good of their profits and investments creating a return and such, economies are doing "good" when "home prices increase" and such)), if things aren't constantly going up, someone is being bad, is not behaving, is not "competitive" enough, or "productive" enough and such.

On the one hand the economists and investors chant that unemployment is bad (since it doens't imply new consumers, more economic growth) but on the other hand they also chant that China is losing 3 million workers a year for their demography (with 100s of millions of workers they can't compensate ? totally insane), Europe is losing millions of workers for age reasons too and such, but if Europe has so much unemployment wouldn't that be good news ? maybe some of the unemployed can finally get employed ? (as usual intractable contradictory forces that lead nowhere but try to hide the real agenda: profits must be made no matter what, like the currency values, if the EURO is too high Europe can't export, but if it is too low, Europe pays more for oil and such, contradictory forces, if you gain on one side, you lose on the other and so forth). But obviously, the reasons why none of this really makes any sense is because the model of growth forever and the idea of profits forever makes everything look wrong and such.

It is incredible that there are still 100 million poeple working in the USA, incredible, how can you possibly expect more "Employment" or more "Growth" than this ? totally absurd expectations especially if you consider what is being produced (and that is within a Technological Economy having economies of scale, networks, highways, computers and automation and scientific know how and such that should amplify production by the boatloads!) and that is : NOTHING AT ALL, office politics, status games, winners and losers, nothing that is becoming serialized or accumulating; but the categories of the economists are always in terms of aggregations and accumulations of result, big numbers where everything is added up: well if you add up 100 million people a day then that means a billion man hours of "work" of "effort" a day: wow, and what has been produced ? what has been created ? why don't they serialize that ? why don't they accumulate that number ? because if they were to serialize and accumulate that number and then look at the result it would become apparent that no one is doing jack shit by a long run ! the real measure of "Productivity" should be minus a billion man hours a day of economic wealth and production NOT ACHIEVED, with all of that time and "effort" you could go to mars a million times, produce a trillion skyscrapers, do anything on earth if all of that effort was serialized, accumulated for a common goals and such instead of petty fighting between each other, each trying to get an upper hand, a gain, since profit in the end is only a gain a person gets by robbing it from someone else, the entire idea of profit is to disrupt things, create instabilities, imbalances between people, power imbalances, companies, markets and grab an advantage and such, there is nothing morally deep about proifts and growth or anything, there really is very little common wealth accumulated by all of this.

But, as usual, the idea goes back to socialism and such, if there is no profit or gain, if I can't get more than you there is no incentive to do anything, we all become equal and equally inactive and poor and such: so we all need inequalities and disruptions and instabilities, fights, economic fights, corporate competitions, people and companies and systems and countries competing bewteen each other (to grab "market share") and so forth, and all kinds of changes for changes sake to create the possiblity to grab some more against someone else, to make a gain against something else and so forth.

But in the end, none of this will ever change, the game is this no matter what, JHK keeps on hoping that things can change, that energy will be a limit and so forth: nothing further from the truth, the system will keep on chugging along no matter what, the system has brainwashed everyone that this is the only possible way to go, there is really no alternative, either this growth and profits and debts model or nothing else, all else is doomed and such.

And in all truth, the entire "economic crisis" is just a make believe crisis, the "fiscal cliff" and such, all fake imaginary emergencies, all fake problems, in all truth, the system is completely stable, rock solid, won't change an inch, hasn't changed an inch, those little disruptions of the "crisis" are invisible in the larger scheme of things, the system cannot change unless governments and economists and politicians start to completely change their Economic Ideology and the Standard Economic Model: such as to hose the entire idea of profits and investments and debts and give out free salaries, cheap rents and huge public - private projects and so forth, skyscrapers rockets and such: will this ever happen ? no, the investors and economists and politicians will always blame something or someone or the workers as being guilty for not making them make more profits, for not making the economy grow, they all need "new training" and "more education" (no one ever asks to do what ! totally stupid ideas everyone repeats), we need more "Productivity" (another totally stupid idea that means more output with fewer workers, so fewer workers will make the economy grow ?) and so forth, more competition, more innovation and research and so forth: there is no amount of research and innovation that will make money grow automatically for no reason at all, but they will force it to grow anyways through abstract, vague and intractable financial magic all the "mathematicians and researchers" dream up in the "research" and "innovation" and such).

THE APE ROBOT

Concerning the Ebonics and underachievement of US-born blacks -

Something has gone terribly awry since those hopeful days of the Civil Rights Act. And, yeah Janos, affirmative action is now part of the problem. (Maybe? it was a good idea for a fixed period of time - but here we are 50 years on, and AA shows no sign of ever ending.

And the Grievance Coalition and Black Tribalism deserve most of the rest of the blame. Look at the ridiculous histrionics surrounding the Martin/Zimmerman fight/tragedy. Look at how the dead ex-cop Dorner was being cheered on via twitter as retribution for drunk driver RODNEY KING - which incident occurred 22 YEARS ago.

Can a whole race of people inside a country become infected with Histrionic Personality Disorder? Sometimes it looks that way.

Bless their hearts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder
"HPD lies in the dramatic cluster of personality disorders.[3] People with HPD have a high need for attention, make loud and inappropriate appearances, exaggerate their behaviors and emotions, and crave stimulation.[3] They may exhibit sexually provocative behavior, express strong emotions with an impressionistic style, and can be easily influenced by others. Associated features include egocentrism, self-indulgence, continuous longing for appreciation, and persistent manipulative behavior to achieve their own needs." -wiki-

In other news, 8M, you need to work on this project for humans.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4793208/sea-slug-can-detach-regrow-and-reuse-its-penis.html
Sounds like a much more worthwhile, and survivable, idea - than shoving a V-8 engine in the brain.

Why are you so mean-spirited? You sure are a thorny rose. It's you and your friends here who are no "good" at verbal games. With few exceptions, you are a platoon of dullards, repeating the same tropes over and over again, ad nauseum. And the sad part is, you think you are doing something worthwhile. Echo chambers have little value, if any. In fact, an argument can be made they (echo chambers) are detrimental to your mental and emotional health, and you are living proof of the verity of that theory. You need to get out and about more, and intermingle. Open yourself to the diverse universe that surrounds us all. Let the light in, but also, don't be afraid to embrace the darkness. Yes, every rose has its thorns, but don't let your plentiful thorns obscure the potential beauty you have to offer.

You explained that the picture of Al was not removed from the building but the above sentence could certainly be interpreted otherwise. At a minimum it is misleading. How about "found" rather than "recovered?"

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I have revised. It now reads as follows:

The picture of Al was reoriented to its rightful place.

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You wrote, "I’m pleasantly surprised because the worst, or nothing even closely resembling it, rarely manifests.

The bolded word needs to be either "anything" or "something."

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Agree. The change has been made to "anything."

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You wrote, "we may have caught incontinence." I like this line although I'm guessing only a minority of readers would "get it." My mother died at age 84 in a Florida nursing home of Alzheimer's. On entering the facility one was nearly bowled over by the stench of urine. Your line above implies facetiously that the inability to hold one's water (incontinence) is a communicable disease if one is around it too long.

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You are most likely correct. Sad, but true. But for those who do, like yourself, it's a nice treat.

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In the penultimate paragraph you enumerate the following: "where he keeps chains, whips, lots of leather and ball gags and the Gimp." In the last paragraph you use nearly identical language leaving out only "lots of leather." To me, repeating a list [nearly] verbatim is tiresome and it would have been better in that last paragraph to say "escape the possibility of his hideaway with its awful implements of torture" or some such.

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Agree. I have revised as follows:

I don’t think the security guard has my address, and if so, once we’re through those doors, I, nay we, escape the possibility of his hideaway with its hellish cache of torturous implements.

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"they wear the funny hat that look likes an inverted Dixie cup"

looks like

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Agree. The change has been made.

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Final comment: You implied on last weeks thread that your story would continue but you really didn't know in what direction... and that the direction would result from following "your muse." It was hard for me to imagine that a novel could be written without a pretty firm advance idea of its direction...beginning, middle and end. Now, in responding to my earlier critique you indicate you know full well where this story is headed. This makes a lot more sense to me.

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I can see why you would think that. You have an analytic mind, and therefore an analytic perspective that predominates your thinking. Therefore, it makes more sense to you to write a novel with a firm blueprint in hand, but that's not always how it works, nor is it necessarily how it should work. For some, it works well that way, for others it's something that grows and evolves from a small kernel of an idea. That's what is happening with this novel in process. It is evolving from a spec. As I feed it, it feeds me. The muse comes alive, and ultimately guides me to completion. My muse is here now. Keeping it is the challenge. The muse does not lend itself to capture, so one must be careful not to attempt to corner or contain it. It must be nurtured and respected, and if you do it right, if you walk that tightrope skillfully enough, the reciprocal reward from the muse is gratifying and well worth it.

When JHK wrote the following,
"Not since the Civil War (1861 - 65) has anything bad of this scale happened within the United States itself and the public is unprepared despite our total immersion in the on-screen ersatz heroics of avatars such as Dwayne Johnson."

...I wasn't sure who he was referring to, but I finally looked up Mr. Johnson's profile. (Wrestler/Actor)

THEN, in a very strange co-winkadink (writing about all things "iconic" fading faster than the dinosaurs), in the very same week, Dwayne is no more... either! Weird.

http://dwayne.johnson.mediafetcher.com/news/top_stories/actor_new_zealand.php

Could it be true? It's so recent, we'll have to look for some confirmation.

"No, I meant base as in morally low, dishonorable, meanspirited, etc. You see, Shecky, bass, being fish, cannot talk. ;-)"

then please explain this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmjOkeS9Azo

Holy Shit!!
Is that MAGIC, or some highly necessary application of advanced technologies?
(It's a perfect example of "the greatest misallocation of resources in the history of the world" [tm JHK]. I wonder how many of those were made, or are BEING manufactured as we speak?)

It's yet another Dwayne Johnson avatar. May he, and his avatars, rest in peace. This statement was not meant to debass his image.

An Example of the Fruits of Big Government

An actual letter to the passport office...

Dear Sirs,

I'm in the process of renewing my passport, and still cannot believe this. How is it that Radio Shack has my address and telephone number and knows that I bought a cable T.V. from them back in 1987, and yet, the Federal Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date.

For Christ sakes, do you guys do this by hand? My birth date you have on my social security card, and it is on all the income tax forms I've filed for the past 30 years. It is on my health insurance card, my driver's license, on the last eight damn passports I've had, on all those stupid customs declaration forms I've had to fill out before being allowed off the plane over the last 30 years, and all those insufferable census forms that are done at election times. Would somebody please take note, once and for all, that my mother's name is Maryanne, my father's name is Robert and I'd be absolutely astounded if that ever changed between now and when I die!!!!!! I apologize, I'm really pissed off this morning. Between you an' me, I've had enough of this bullshit! You send the application to my house, then you ask me for my address? What is going on? Do you have a gang of Neanderthal asses working there!

Look at my damn picture. Do I look like Bin Laden? I don't want to dig upYasser Arafat, I just want to go and park my ass on a sandy beach. And would someone please tell me, why would you care whether I plan on visiting a farm in the next 15 days? If I ever got the urge to do something weird to a chicken or a goat, believe you me, I'd sure as hell not want to tell anyone!

Well, I have to go now, 'cause I have to go to the other end of the city and get another copy of my birth certificate, to the tune of $60. Would it be so complicated to have all the services in the same spot to assist in the issuance of a new passport the same day?? Nooooo, that'd be too damn easy and maybe make sense. You'd rather have us running all over the place like chickens with our heads cut off, then find some idiot to confirm that it's really me on the damn picture - you know, the one where we're not allowed to smile?! (bureaucratic morons) Hey, you know why we can't smile? We're totally pissed off!

Signed - An Irate Citizen. P.S...

Remember

What I said above about the picture and getting someone to confirm that it's me? Well, my family has been in this country since 1776 ........I have served in the military for something over 30 years and have had security clearances up the ying yang..........However, I have to get someone 'important' to verify who I am - you know, someone like my doctor WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN INDIA !

Sincerely, You Sure In The Hell Should Know Who I Am.

..............And you want to run our health care system?!?

As Margaret Thatcher once said "Socialism is GREAT - UNTIL you run out of other people's money".

Ha!
The response of "the deceased" to the story is pretty good.

"I would love to meet the person who is starting rumors of my death – to show them how a dead foot feels up their a**,” he just tweeted. -From a site called Gossip Cop


Goofy said:
With few exceptions, you are a platoon of dullards, repeating the same tropes over and over again, ad nauseum. And the sad part is, you think you are doing something worthwhile. Echo chambers have little value, if any. In fact, an argument can be made they (echo chambers) are detrimental to your mental and emotional health, and you are living proof of the verity of that theory. You need to get out and about more, and intermingle.
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And this is about your fiftieth post where you remind us how "dull" we are. You are the very "dullard" that you criticize. How do you figure we think we're "doing something worthwhile" here? I think most of us actually know this is a blog and we're not changing the world writing here. You extrapolate that none of us have lives but I submit YOU have no life.

I volunteer at a food bank, published a book, educated 10,000 people well, play chess at an expert level (not quite master), and I have a wide circle of friends who I cafe bum with almost daily. Why don't you open up and tell us what you've done with your life so we can shoot at you, too. You love being a sniper but don't ever risk being a SNIPEE.


E.

his hideaway with its hellish cache of torturous implements.
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I like it. Your words are richer than those I suggested off the cuff though the meaning is the same.

One aside... and I am not suggesting at all that any change should be made:

I would bet that half the people reading the above sentence and sounding out the words in their heads will pronounce cache as ka-SHAY. During the Iraq war I recall groaning audibly when a 3-star general told a reporter that they had captured a large ka-SHAY of weapons.


Hilarious letter, Q.!!! Indeed, we live in a distributed database, high tech world where they have every relevant fact about your life stored in duplicated databases. I'm about ready to tell 'em that my name is Sheik Yerbouti and please send me all your petrodollars.

E.

I don't want to dig upYasser Arafat, I just want to go and park my ass on a sandy beach.

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There should be a space between "up" and "Yasser."

So, you were a Socialist for thirty years? The military is a Socialist organization, and if you were a part of it, you were a Socialist. I'm with you if you want to end the largest "entitlement" program in the history of civilization. The military is a vampire squid, sucking the lifeblood out of the planet. It's the elephant in the room, not the defenseless illegal immigrants. But, bullies always look for easy targets to flagellate, and this is no different.

I volunteer at a food bank, published a book, educated 10,000 people well, play chess at an expert level (not quite master), and I have a wide circle of friends who I cafe bum with almost daily.

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I neither know nor care who you are; I shall leave all such speculation to others.

It is evolving from a spec. As I feed it, it feeds me. The muse comes alive, and ultimately guides me to completion. My muse is here now. Keeping it is the challenge. The muse does not lend itself to capture, so one must be careful not to attempt to corner or contain it. It must be nurtured and respected, and if you do it right, if you walk that tightrope skillfully enough, the reciprocal reward from the muse is gratifying and well worth it.
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Here is the dictionary definition of muse:

As a verb, to muse is to consider something thoughtfully. As a noun, it means a person — especially a woman — who is a source of artistic inspiration.

The muse YOU speak of, I gather, is a spirit-like inspiration. It has no substance but is no less real. And you have ways of keeping a draft from blowing out this candle.

Beside the traditional female "company" that inspire starving artists (presumably by regularly discharging the artist's distracting sexual tensions so they can concentrate and get something done: writing, painting, sculpting, etc.) the other kind of muse would be, I guess, booze or pot, etc. that can aid insight that one might otherwise not have.

There should be a space between "up" and "Yasser."
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I think you misunderstand, I did not write the letter to the Passport Office. It was sent to me by a friend who sends me jokes and such every day. This person knows me well and knew I would appreciate a perfect example of BIG GOVT and its inefficiencies.

Why take that tack? Isn't it more reasonable to assume that's just the way Blacks are? That's what the old Southerners said - and they're batting 100% in their predictions of the horrors that would accrue from Civil Rights.

Again, you are stuck in the blank slate/environmentalist trap. Nothing comes into this world as a blank slate. Even blank slates are composed of a certain material and have certain properties and stress levels. Just like certain breeds of dogs are more excitable and less teacheable, Blacks have a certain general nature which has been noted by White men all the way back to Classical Rome and Egypt. The Arabs say the same thing. As do your Ancestors. Hasn't the time for Truth come at last?

Chris Dorner was just a Black Man in the wrong place at the wrong time. He died for our sins and from our sins. Cops were heard yelling, "Burn the mother down."

He wasn't Django, but certainly a forerunner.

Hey O2Pete what the hell did you do to piss off Buckstud?

This is hard country, CFNation. You need thick skin to dwell here. You have thick skin.

People on the hard right (Vlad) and the hard left (Buck) don't like you. That leaves you somewhere in the sane middle, which isn't a bad place yo be.


Well, the verdict is in, and it is unanimous. Every host on MSNBC, as well as every democratic congressman and Senator in Connecticut, say last nights SOTU speech was the most visionary, far reaching, wise ... the greatest speech ever made. i didn't see it so I'll have to take their word.

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I did misunderstand. It was misleading. Nowhere did you state the words were not your own until this follow-up post.

Yes, the muse can be all that, and more. Or, it's just a literary device employed to embellish the concept of inspiration. Or, it could be both. That which we manifest is before us.

Well, the verdict is in, and it is unanimous. Every host on MSNBC, as well as every democratic congressman and Senator in Connecticut, say last nights SOTU speech was the most visionary, far reaching, wise ... the greatest speech ever made. i didn't see it so I'll have to take their word.

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In otherwords, the same reaction so-called "conservatives" had to the Chrysler Superblow commercial where Paul Harvey sanctifies farmers. Each side of the coin is so easily manipulated. And, each side is thoroughly convinced it's the right side. Neither side is the right side. It's a coin, and it has an owner, and that owner perpetually flips that coin, and EVERYTIME, it's tails you lose, and heads, the owner of the coin wins.

You need to get out and about more, and intermingle.
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Since you are a person here specifically to practice and exercise your writing skills, not just to lament dwindling resources, the invasion of swarthy hordes, and the end of civilization as we know it, it gives ME an opportunity to speak with a kindred spirit who might actually be glad to know, unlike most here, that they've written then when they mean than.

And you have probably read The Elements of Style by Strunk and White wherein would-be writers are admonished to include no unnecessary paragraph, no unnecessary sentence, and no unnecessary word. (See there, I wrote "no unnecessary" three times when once would have been sufficient but sometimes repetition is good for emphasis.)

Well, I would take S&W's advice one step farther. Don't use an extra syllable that adds nothing to meaning or nuance.

Accordingly, why not just say "...get out and about more, and mingle?"

Obama's State of the Union speech last night was a cafeteria buffet of liberal-speak platitudes, with a lot of "Let's just do it" redundant slogans, and few if any real declarations of what he WILL do. There is no real plan to rebuild an ailing economy, because as JHK has aptly and eloquently outlined, the "leaders" of Washington's power elite, including and especially Obama and his cronies, have no real understanding of what is wrong with our society. And of course, the predictable Republican response was equally clueless. The national so-called "main-stream media", are little more than a fawning band of wind-up cheerleaders, who clap and whistle on cue, rather like a bunch of trained seals. Throw them a fish and they will continue. I consider J.H. Kunstler to be no less than a prophet; he is spot-on in his analysis of this country's problems, as well as the sewer of international power-grabbing and financial shell games. I can only echo what JHK has just predicted: reality is approaching our delusional fantasy-society like an enormous asteroid; it will kill a lot of people and leave most of the survivors in a long period of fear, depression and danger. It will take a long time to recover as a viable, rational nation, if we ever do. I think the United States may break up into smaller regional states, as did the old Soviet Union. There may be a natural size limit to Democratic Republics, where it becomes impossible to have a rational society working in harmony after exceeding a certain size.

hello, here is a little preview of the conditions that will prevail in our entire society, a few years from now. The only difference is, we won't have anywhere to dock, and there will be no way to get off the ship. Ever.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/travel/cruise-ship-fire/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

IMO speech patterns are ingrained. You can't leave them behind. Maybe you can try but then you sound phony. I've had business meetings with guys from Noo Yawk. Interesting lingos. A nominal egg = an arm and a leg. I remember one guy that sounded like Arnold Horshack. How you sound depends on where your muddah and faddah raised you. When you open your mouth you betray your origins.

BTW I watched the State of the Union speech. By my count there were 70 applause interruptions 40 of which were standing ovations. It took about an hour. If they would shut up and let the man speak and then applaud when he's done you could probably knock off 20 minutes. The last one I watched was probably in the 1980s. So I didn't know what to expect.

Thankfully not much hope and change or yes we can type stuff. Though they did drag in that 102 year old lady that spent 6 hours in line waiting to vote. And Gabby Giffords and the parents of that girl that got shot in Chicago. But there wasn't much meat there IMO about the state of the union. Why are the voting lines so long? I mean six hours? Not enough voting booths?

A valid point, but I will say one thing, or maybe two or three, about S&W's advice. There is also the consideration of rhythm and cadence. An overuse of extra syllables can bog things down and make the rhythm and cadence stutter and start, but conversely, a dearth of extra syllables can give the flow a simplistic, unsophisticated rapidity, i.e. the Dick and Jane basal reader series written by William S. Gray and Zerna Sharp. In otherwords, extra syllables shouldn't be anathema, but rather, used strategically and in moderation to enhance the flow. The same holds for aphorisms and metaphor, meaning they shouldn't be anathema, but instead, used adroitly and moderately to convey greater meaning and clarity without reinventing the wheel.

Holy Shit. Carol!

I wonder if Hemingway or Kerouac (or my newfound Hamlin Garland) postulated on writing like that?

Or did they just go ahead and write? Hemingway nor Kerouac had a college degree, so they probably wouldn't know what the hell you were talking about.

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IMO speech patterns are ingrained. You can't leave them behind. Maybe you can try but then you sound phony. I've had business meetings with guys from Noo Yawk.
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What you're talking about here are regional accents/dialects. Where I came from a creek was a crick, the Philadelphia Eagles were the Igulls, and when your hands were dirty you warshed them. Once I was accused of having an accent - who? me? I don't have any accent - and heard with revulsion my own recorded voice I began to work on it.

But here's the difference about Black folk. No matter what regional dialect may influence their speech you will be able to identify them sight unseen as Black vs a White who lives down the block from them in the same region.

You understand, of course, what I am saying is not universal... but astonishingly close to it.

A valid point, but I will say one thing, or maybe two or three, about S&W's advice.
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I will grant everything you say but jess lemme axt ya, wasn't mingle a better word to use in that sentence?

Have you ever had fiction, non-fiction, memoir, etc. published and been paid for it?

Have you ever attended a writers work shop for a full semester or more?

I will grant everything you say but jess lemme axt ya, wasn't mingle a better word to use in that sentence?

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It's a toss-up. If I were adding words after intermingle, I think mingle would make for better rhythm and cadence.

get out and about more, and mingle with the unappreciated lumpenproletariat.

Since the original sentence ends with intermingle, I like the lingering effect of the extra syllables.

The answer is no to your last two questions. I have no interest or intention of doing so, either. For precisely the sentiment CD indicates.

Or did they just go ahead and write?
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If you want a detailed view what a great writer goes through to hone his/her skills and get a book published, read the Biography of David Foster Wallace by D.T. Max.

The greats with little formal education, like Charles Dickens, are rare.

No unnecessary words? Not even beautiful ones? There goes alot of literature. Look at the stuff Buck loves, like Ruskin, very verbose but it is very good. I also appreciate the hard style of Hemingway and the moderns, but it is not the only style.

Are you sure Strunk and White (Jews?) were talking about just clarity per se or Literature too. Certainly for the former, brevity is the soul of it. Military Men have been promoted on the brevity and clarity of their dispatches from the field to their C.Os.

Hold on! Cut the Chariots of Fire theme music! Something’s not right with this metaphor. It’s Steve. He doesn’t fit it, quite literally, or more appropriately, the metaphor doesn’t fit him. Sure, Tom and I from a distance, fully clothed, could pass for Olympians, at least in the Curling competition. But Steve? It’s not happening. There’s not one single word that can describe his appearance, but several will help paint this prodigious picture. Gelatinous. Rotund. A massive, shapeless enormity. That’s right, Steve’s FAT. I know, I know, we’re not supposed to say anything about fat people. It’s now a disease, like everything else. NO, it’s not!! I don’t accept that politically correct nonsense. Obesity is not a disease. In fact, let’s drop the euphemism obese, and call it what it is. It’s fat. They’re fat. And, they’re fat because they have chosen to be fat. They’re fat because they’re too lazy to address their gelatin.

It would be somewhat forgivable, and some mercy would be tendered, if Steve were not such a vituperative curmudgeon. His blunt, brash, pugilistic contrarianism hubris coupled with his unsightly and unhealthy physical dimensions condemn him to double jeopardy without the protection of the fifth amendment.

It’s difficult now to imagine what he once looked like. It’s a complete transformation. He was, once upon a time, a handsome lad at six feet two, one hundred eighty-five pounds with thick, full brown hair and Aryan blue eyes. It’s amazing what thirty years of negligence, supplemented heavily with stress and high-fructose corn syrup, can do. Steve, amongst other things, is a paean to the insidiousness that is Corporatism. Unlike obesity, Corporatism is a disease. A scourge. A pox upon this house. Steve is the end result of a life of servitude to his lord and master, the Corporation. It gave him high blood pressure. It gave him Type II diabetes. It gave him Hodgkin’s lymphoma . It took his gall bladder. It took his health. It sucked every last drop of lifeblood from him and destroyed his soul. And still, he worships it daily. He now resides in Bentonville, Arkansas, the Mecca of Corporatism, and is in the employ of the Grand Ayatollah of corporations, Wal-Mart. No doubt, they’ve taken out a Dead Peasant policy on him. But hey, it was all worth it. He’s raised three children that would make the leaders of the Third Reich brim with pride and envy. The perfect Aryans, in both appearance and character. He whipped them into shape early on. Sports and good grades were mandatory. Any form of rebellion was out of the question, and was not tolerated. He went three for three. All three are dutiful soldiers. Complete obeisance. No critical thought. Onward they march. Their father perfected in them what he wanted most for himself, but fortunately, Mom and Dad weren’t up to the task, or else, I would be brimming with pride and envy at his children just like Hitler, Himmler, Göring and Goebbels are from their graves.

With each additional pound, Steve has lost an equivalent measure of his masculine essence. And, the same holds true for overweight women. Each extra pound beyond optimal weight inversely correlates with the magnitude of feminine essence. Fat people, despite their gender, lose their sexually defining features and appear asexual. Oddly enough, this has resulted in Steve closely resembling our oldest sister, Joanne. She’s also fat. Very fat, just like Steve. In fact, so fat, she had the trendy lap-band surgery performed on her to help her lose weight because she couldn’t do it without the intervention of the surgeon’s scalpel. She has succeeded in real estate, but gelatin is just too formidable a foe. I will give credit where it is due. The surgery has resulted in her losing approximately eight pounds. Only one hundred and fifty to go. Woo Hoo!! The issue of their weight is off the table, by the way. It’s a taboo topic. Isn’t that convenient. By precluding criticism, as constructive as it may be, they can ignore their inadequacy. I guess most people do the same thing with their own ignored pet issues, me included. Who cares, anyway? Not me. Not anymore.

I agree with you, although as Q mentions, most authorities do recommend austerity of prose. The reason being, or so I suspect, is more about the capability of the current crop of readers than anything else. ( “Don’t lose your readers is the incessant mantra which might make the consideration one of sales and marketability just as much as aesthetics?) For example, even Mark Twain is a difficult read for a lot of readers these days. Moreover, Q’s hard and fast rule regarding bare-bone efficiency misses the point when it comes to composition: a good writer incorporates superfluity as foil to feature the essential…conversely as well . In other words, it can be done as method to feature a "focal point". Austerity enveloped by opulence stands out by contrast; ditto for minute detailing in the midst of “the generalized”. Same thing for pace of which Dickens is quite master. A preceding paragraph meanders along like a lazy stream in August and then BOOM - it’s the world’s fastest man heading to the finish line at the start of the next paragraph.

To what end, as the wise man said…

"Why are the voting lines so long? I mean six hours? Not enough voting booths?"

Excellent question. What Obama omitted was that these voting difficulties are a huge problem in certain states, e.g. Florida, where that old lady lives, but not a problem at all in others. Oregon conducts all its voting by absentee ballots that voters may mail back to their county elections offices or leave in drop boxes. California has a permanent absentee balloting option, which I use, available for the asking. Many states, including Pennsylvania, where I used to live, only provide absentee ballots upon approval of an application claiming infirmity, anticipated absence from the jurisdiction at the time of the election in question, or some other inability to appear in person at the polls on election day.

The sick truth is that some states are run by officials whose goal is to disenfranchise their political opponents and consequently refuse to learn from states such as Oregon and California that run free, fair and smooth elections. As disappointed as I was by the State of the Union this year, I think Obama did a very effective job of presenting that old lady's election day story. At first I thought he shouldn't have been so subtle about the underlying problems with the electoral system in many states, but in retrospect I think his framing was very savvy. He made the Republicans look absolutely terrible when they refused to clap.

A stool sample would be more insightful than the platitudinal propaganda that's proffered under the guise of the State of the Union Address. Thank Wilson for this pomp. Jefferson broke the custom set by Washington and Adams and instead of reciting a speech before Congress, had a written account delivered to same. That written tradition continued for approximately one hundred years until the first truly imperial president, Wilson, turned it into a pretentious pageant. And here we are. I haven't given one the time of day in quite some time. It was always ridiculously transparent. These jerks are liars. We know it's true. Their words cannot be trusted, and this venue should shunned. They won't end it, but we can, by just not paying it any attention. It's what they do, not what they say. Every SOTUA from here on out should be a tweet that says simply....

We're staying the course, come hell, or high water, or both, and regardless of whatever else is thrown our way.

M.,
Dunno; perhaps he's fond of colorful frauds. [shrug] Machts nicht.
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Well, hell, if'n the mass propaga... er, sorry, I mean, MEDIA machine is opining that the SOTU is the most laudable speechifyin' ever spewed, who am I to argue, eh? Interestingly enough, this very JHK column has appeared on Information Clearinghouse today. Read in (or out) what you will.
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Regarding what Q. and Carol are a'speculatin' on, the best of S&W's advice is: squeeze, don't jerk; both eyes open; pumpkin on a post; in an exchange of fire, keep moving and just use the front sight to put your shots to general body mass.

I did not know that. (Written vs. oral.)

And your final sentence about says what we know they're thinking! (They might add, "Hooray for me and fuck you!", but that's just a bit tawdry for a fine Kri'shan nayshun that don't like 'at kinda tawk.)

"These jerks are liars. We know it's true. Their words cannot be trusted, and this venue should "BE" (sic) shunned. ..(snip)... It's what they do, not what they say. Every SOTUA from here on out should be a tweet that says simply....

We're staying the course, come hell, or high water, or both, and regardless of whatever else is thrown our way." -"carol n"

Extraordinarily well said, Carol!

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Now - if you want to be a writer, you've got to learn to argue persuasively with an editor, so let's consider the part with which I disagree.

"They won't end it, but we can, by just not paying it any attention." -cn-

I hear that a lot, with respect to participation in politics AND economic activity. And I don't believe non-participation will work, not to cause any positive change, AT ALL. (And here, I begin to revisit an argument that I had with Bean Town Bill.)

The political "pageant" goes majestically on, even though we have only +/-40% of the population voting for POTUS, these days, on average.

If the percentage dropped to 30%, 20%, maybe even 10% or LESS - I don't see how it would matter to the political process, as it impacts reality or real life - for the average person in the US of A.

And - not watching or caring about the SOTUA??

BAH! No one in power will care. Those jackasses will just do what they want to do to us.

We need something else.

Any suggestions?
Anyone?
http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=crickets
And thanks, O3, nice sound website!


I did see the episode of Jeopardy and was amazed that the black (lower case 'b' - what's up with the upper case?) kid won. I'll admit I had a bit of a prejudice of his appearance. Who wears a 'fro in 2013? But damn, that kid was smart. And he spoke standard English.

You spoke of class in speaking English - most particularly that of upper middle class and upper class blacks not speaking proper English when in their own company. Well, I've had some experience dealing with that. In professional settings, many blacks with whom I've worked and played, get real "ghetto" in small group conversations. It kind of hurts my ears, as though they are playing a part of some image they're supposed to have, or - worse - don't really use standard English when "conversating".....this is a word?

Pro,
For you and others, Fred has a good spiel on immigration if you want to tune in to his website. Some thought-provoking musings - made me think of you as I read it! Highly recommended :D

"In professional settings, many blacks with whom I've worked and played, get real "ghetto" in small group conversations." -mm-

Yeah, I've had a lot of experience with that myself, MMay. And it's "tribalism," pure and simple.

Someone posted that the "bargain" of the Civil Rights Act was that blacks and whites would compromise and meet in the middle.

I though that bargain would work. It has failed.
And the native born population of US blacks, whether upper, middle, or lower class - can retreat into an easy tribalism, in the face of this failed bargain.

What whites are supposed to do, I do not know - but Jaego/Vlad/Janos' repeated calls for "white tribalism" are not an answer. Not yet, anyway.

thoughT
thoughT
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I've been hording consonants, lately.
Along with hording Mormon food, gold, silver, lead, brass, farming and survival supplies, agreeable neighbors, agreeable family members, and knowledge.

Zombie Apocalypse - and all that, you know?

It is a good Fred.
I made a partial response to it on the CFN thread, yesterday.

Take a look at what I said.
I'd like to hear your input.

BTW, whoever killed Asoka, a belated "Thanks", and premature, "Happy Valentine's Day", ya big sweetheart!

Speaking of Valentine's Day, I happened by my neighborhood's local convenience store (locally owned and operated!) to purchase a bottle of Merlot ($15.00 a bottle bargain!) and some bread to find a lovely array of roses at the counter. The proprieter, a Pakistani, rang up my purchase and gave me the total, which was just under $20.00. I admired the beautiful roses and he asked me, in his Pakistani accent, "Would you like one?"

I replied, "Yes, they're beautiful, you must be planning to sell quite a bit of them!"

He said, "Yes, although it's still a day early."

He placed the rose in my bag, along with the wine and bread, and said, that'll be $24.53".

I gave him a quizzical look and said, "You know, Jerry, I've been buying this same brand of wine and bread for the past few months and the total has always been under $20.00. What gives? Have your prices suddenly gone up?"

And he said, "No, the prices are the same, but you bought the rose."

Whereby I gave him an even more confused look and said, trying to look as innocent as can be, "Why Jerry! I thought YOU bought that rose for ME!"

Long story short - I still had to pay for my own rose!

FREAK!

"I've been hording consonants, lately.
Along with hording Mormon food,..."
-p4c-

What the hell kind of word is "hording?"
Why does the JHK spellcheck accept "hording?"

It's a conspiracy, man!!

Now, I'm hoArding vowels, too.

f

"f"

What the F is this "f" for, Janos????????
K/Q has already asked, once.

It is just a way to see new posts. For some reason, my computer doesn't usually register them unless I post or until I have to sign in again.

Now look, by the time you think Whites are in danger it will be too late to do anything. Just like any other kind of prepping, better years too early than a minute too late. No prep is possible once the crisis is upon us. It is already a serious situation. Whites were 30% of the World at the begining of the 20th century. But we are only about 8% now - with our rate of reproduction below replacement. And our Nations are now hosts to fast producing minorities who do so with our resources.

When would you like us to begin to start the monumental task of surviving as a People? Why don't you just admit that you don't care? After all, everyone is just people. A few White Nations might make it if the Collapse happens soon and completely. Ireland, Iceland, Finland, Montana and Wymoming might be saved by the bell - but not thru any heroic action or awareness. Thus they would be left open to further disaster unless they changed their philsophies.

Orcs are massing with one intent: to destroy the World of White Men. Muslims as experienced conquerors will at least not go for genocide, only cultural destruction and assimilation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AOChPF21Wlk

Damn, all U's sockpuppets jumped on the bandwagon!!! Nothing but immigration and racism. Y'allz patting each utha on da back gets dull, guys...

PCR rolled a nice one, 2/11/13... Not to get down on our blog master, who had some nice sh! (tr00f) to say about the Fed majikal printing press, banksters leveraging that 0% loan 30::1, same banksters loaning back 100-300+% to the Govt (*NOT* the Fed) at 3% (gee, the taxpayers make up that difference?), and said-same banksters taking the other 2,700% to the Stock Market *CASINO*...

Oh yeah, and a fsck'n *HAT*...

South Asians are the least chivalric people of all. We could learn something from that and we should. Why not expect your gynecologist to buy you a diamond?


CN said:

I neither know nor care who you are; I shall leave all such speculation to others.
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Wow, that's a HUGE lie!! If you didn't "care who I was", you were sure consumed with various speculations, virtually all false and scurrilous, over the course of about ten posts. When every last thing you say about various people, who are as individual as you imagine YOURSELF TO BE, turns out to be just a stab in the dark, you become apathetic only when the victim doesn't fade to black.

Carol, you need to face the music or stop being such a combative ass. If you're going to be a combative ass then don't feign indifference when a worthy debater puts you in your place. Make no mistake about it, I dealt with EVERY contention you made with FACTS about my existence or about the issues in question.

You, like most liberals, want COMFORTABLE truths where people and phenomena can be placed in neat little bins ... like I saw in your post about the military. I'm vehemently opposed to every war we've started in my lifetime but there's no way I'm going to condemn the poor saps who fought in them because military recruiters PREY upon the poor and ill-educated. You should have sympathy, not bile, for them.

E.


CD said:
Holy Shit. Carol!

I wonder if Hemingway or Kerouac (or my newfound Hamlin Garland) postulated on writing like that?

Or did they just go ahead and write? Hemingway nor Kerouac had a college degree, so they probably wouldn't know what the hell you were talking about.
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I already wrote a post wherein I stated that obsession with vocabulary and syntax does not a writer make. I *am* a published author and my book got a 5-star rating both on Amazon and Slashdot.

I don't know about you, CD, or my fellow CFN'ers, but I'm kind of tired of this word mincing workshop that Q. and Carol are having. Just as computer programming is how to use the idioms of a language most elegantly to get a job done, the same is true of non-technical writing. Wordsmithing, of course, requires good spelling and decent syntax but if the prose is not concise, if it lacks a certain pizzazz, if it is rife with illogic, if the characters lack believability, etc. ... then it's lousy prose even if every last word is spelled correctly and every semicolon, colon, ellipsis, and comma is in the right place.

Good prose is rare. It's even rare among the so-called "well known" authors. In my opinion, among poets, the greatest works are the briefest like "The Second Coming" by Yeats or "The Conqueror Worm" by Poe. Of course, the snobby view of prose is that we should all slog through "great" works that are five times their natural size.


E.


Good Lord, your prose is so BORING. That gigantic post about a fat guy and a lot of it is pure rubbish. In real life, where most of us live, fat guys and fat women seem to do just fine. When I look at one of my favorite musical periods, the Baroque, Bach and Handel were quite corpulent and were also unmatched by anyone else in the period.

So THAT'S your prose is it? I knew there was a reason I preferred non-fiction.

E.

I'm going to condemn the poor saps who fought in them because military recruiters PREY upon the poor and ill-educated. You should have sympathy, not bile, for them.

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Show me where I condemned. I'm waiting. I stated a fact. The military is the epitome of Socialism which many of you here deride. I'm calling a spade, a spade. It's an entitlement program. A massive one. Nearly sixty cents out of every dollar in FIT collected goes to funding the entitlement program known as the military. I'd like to lower that figure to zero cents out of every federal income tax dollar, but I'll compromise and settle for five cents. How about you?

I will say this. At least the illegal immigrants, versus U.S. soldiers, don't take up arms against the country they're occupying. Instead, they work their asses off for next to nothing so they can support the destitute in their country of origin. Unlike the military, they don't bring tanks, drones and depleted uranium. They don't drop bombs on wedding parties and defenseless men, women and children. They don't bust into our houses in the middle of the night and rape our wives and children. It's difficult to find sympathy for anyone who carries out those orders, even if it's an illegal immigrant who has joined the U.S. military. And don't laugh. It happens. Illegals do get into the military.

I agree with you that a significant percentage of grunts in the military are preyed upon by recruiters. Visit most any public school these days and you will see the marketing propaganda plastered everywhere. It's despicable. What do we do to stop it? Many so-called "conservatives" will label you a commie-pinko if you attempt to keep the military recruiters, and their marketing propaganda, out. They control the local school boards. Why are they poor? Perhaps if that issue is addressed as the root of the problem, you can mitigate them being so vulnerable to the predations of military recruiters. But, this economic system requires an increasingly larger percentage of the population to be poor. Yes, it requires it. What do you do about that?

Something tells me the "Dirty Professor" is FAT. Suck it up, BIG BOY. The novel in process is not intended for you as an audience. I'll leave that to David Duke and his ilk. There's some prose for you. I hear that boy can write. I'm sure you're a fan. I don't want the likes of you reading anything I write. It's tantamount to addressing a wall.

Wow, that's a HUGE lie!! If you didn't "care who I was", you were sure consumed with various speculations, virtually all false and scurrilous, over the course of about ten posts. When every last thing you say about various people, who are as individual as you imagine YOURSELF TO BE, turns out to be just a stab in the dark, you become apathetic only when the victim doesn't fade to black.

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Thank you for responding to Nastarana. They were her words, if she really is a she, to which you were responding. I couldn't have articulated it better myself. That's not true, I certainly could have, but I wanted you to, and I knew you would. And you call yourself an expert in chess? Hardly. You, like Bobby Fischer, have too large of an ego. You keep tripping over it. You really should do something about it. And your fat.

" And your fat." -Carol

Now that, (even with the proper contraction) is unsubstantiated.

Perhaps we should all just write out "you are" from now on until we grok what the contraction stands for; it's the same number of characters when written, anyhoo.

Pick, pick, pick! ;o)

I should say, same number of characters, PLUS a space bar tap*. Is a space considered a "character"?

Twittering Tweeters (or verse vice-a) might know this one...

Pick, pick, pick!!!

*The handle on the tap in the Space Bar is in the form of a miniature Buck Rogers space ship. Happy swillings!

Some nice comments on writing and literature, E5. You say some pretty interesting things; Glad to see you back here.

And you mention Poe. I don't know if he's read much anymore. I love his short story The Gold Bug. Robert Louis Stevenson knew that story and used it and you can see elements of it in Treasure Island.

I read somewhere that Zane Gray (who's granddaughter was my neighbor) wrote his novels sitting at small oak desk with a lead pencil and a legal pad. The typewriter didn't come along until the 1880s. So think of of Herman Melville writing Moby Dick with a pen and sheet of paper, that's all. Its astonishing, really.

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ozone? Can you not give me more credit than that? It's not meant to be a contraction. Read it again, in conjunction with the preceding sentence. It's an afterthought intended to mean that he should also do so something about his fat.

His exploits that he has listed, i.e. that he taught over 10,000 students well, that he published a book, that he is a chess expert, that he commingles at a cafe with a socio-demographically diverse group are also unsubstantiated. His calling me a "liberal" is also unsubstantiated. His, and others here, calling me a feminist is also unsubstantiated. The point is?

Who cares, anyway? Not me. Not anymore.

"the military is socialist"
-carol newtwist-

The resident impediment used to say this bit of nonsense repeatedly, as well.

So, let us ask, what would a "capitalistic" version of the military look like?

Rank, pay grade, access to food, in fact access to every necessity and privilege - would be determined through "capitalistic" principles, in the "capitalistic" military.

The "currency" for these transactions and exchanges would be violence, and the threat of violence. Thus, the highest ranking "officers" would be those most capable of marshaling violence against others.

Individual service members would be expected to generate their own "capital," from the people of the country where they were deployed - by means of theft, threat, rape, or murder.

Chances are that armies like those of Genghis Khan, Vlad the Impaler, and William Sherman ran somewhat on a "capitalistic" basis.

And the geographically closest analog, today, to a "capitalistic" military force, is to be found among the Mexican Drug Warlords, who are intimately dependent upon illegal activities and illegal immigrants - for whom "carol" has demonstrated an unnatural affection.

Yep, the future is "capitalistic."
That doesn't mean it is going to be better.

Oho! So you meant, "...And your fat as well."
(Sorta like: "...And your little dog too!")
Sorry, I "mis-read"; re-smooth hackles please, 'cause really[?]; mis-readings provoke the very lightest of criticisms in dis place. I'll leave it to Q., and leave it at that. (After all, I ain't no writer-er; more like a distiller.)

Unsubstantiated id a good wurt, eh? ;o)

The point is: He doesn't want to sell his book. Today.

For a lot of us out here enlisting in the Armed Forces was the best thing we ever did. It got us out of town, gave us a job, and an opportunity to see some of the world. I've never had so much fun as the years I spent cruising around the Caribbean on a Destroyer, those days basking in the sun in St Thomas or Guantanamo when my friends and relatives were freezing their asses of in the dirty snows of New England. Ostensibly we were searching for Russian subs coming and going into Cuba. In reality it was one big party, with plenty of cash, plenty of women, and plenty of beer in those Island seaports. What more could you ask for at 19 years old? Who gives a sh-t if it was 'socialist' or any other goddam thing?

I'll say it again; Carol Newquist sounds a lot like Asoka, here to bust our balls some more.

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Just to be infuriating?
The assumption of E.'s corpulence is STILL unsubstantiated, as are anyones' assumptions, of course.

CD, that ain't asoka; you can't change chains of thought and stylistic expression so radically, IMHO.

One more thing that could actually prove interesting is Archie the Druid's column today, concerning centralized control vs. local control, called, "Skin In The Game". Apt title.

Whereas JHK enjoys painting with a broad, hyperbolic brush (that we also thoroughly enjoy reading), JMG has a kind of pointallistic fastidiousness. (Also enjoyable for clarity of exposition via example.)
Here's a slice:

" As long as the roles of state and federal governments remained that of policing the commons, the system worked quite well—better, by most measures, than the failed equivalents we have today. What put paid to it was the explosive spread of government centralization after the Second World War, and this in turn was driven by the imperial tribute economy I described earlier in this series of posts: the set of deliberately unbalanced economic arrangements by which something like a third of the world’s wealth is channeled every year to the five per cent of humanity that live in the United States." -JMG

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2013/02/skin-in-game.html

The time had come at last, as it always does for the woman in wait: she was feeding the edited version of me through the paper shredding machine. Pen, ink and words written on screen and paper no longer sufficed; she issued a non-negotiable demand for the unedited me. It was now rough draft time, with my soul written naked on the tablet of her skin in sweat, scent and fluid.

RIP Chris Dorner, an honest liberal done in by the other liberals. Too bad about all the death, just more butt hurt to manifest itself into more bad ideas.

Anyway on zerohedge yesterday evening they ran a headline thread about how 23% of the Murrikan population is illiterate. How is that so, and why after decades cannot the Democratic establishment correct this? FTR Bakersfield,CA held the record for stupidity per capita.

My WAG the money changing banksters will withdraw Obama's blank check in 2015 and collapse the economy so as to put a GOP shyster in the WH and give Team D a rest.

Got some questions for the anti-whites here about the SI swimsuit issue. Too white? Too sexist? And don't you feel dumb for saying yes to either question?

It is just a way to see new posts. For some reason, my computer doesn't usually register them unless I post or until I have to sign in again.
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Vlad, find the "refresh" icon on your screen and click on it. In my Op Sys (Windows 7) there is a large "back" button in the extreme upper left corner. 3.5 inches or so to the right of that button is an icon showing an arrow that indicates a clockwise direction. That is the refresh button. When you click on it it will cause all the posts to appear that are new since the last time you posted or signed in.


At least my "ego" is based upon life accomplishment, Carol. I live near San Francisco where every fourth or fifth person fancies that they're an "artist" or a "writer". I've read great writing because I had a good Quaker education in Pennsylvania. I was reading Graham Greene, Franz Kafka, Albert Camus, and Aldous Huxley in 10th grade.

Your "Steve" writing above seems to be about showing off vocabulary more than creating an amusing description of someone. "Vituperative curmudgeon" and then less than half a sentence away, "contranianism hubris"?! And while we're at it, shouldn't it be contrarianISTIC since it's an ADJECTIVE describing his hubris? You bloviate on and on about his fatness with about ten nouns and adjectives. Okay, okay, okay ... we get it. Steve is CORPULENT, alright!?

As to your usual allegations that defending fatness means I am fat. You think everyone's as reactive as you are about criticism. In fact, I'm an absolute mesomorph at 5'9'', 175 pounds with big shoulders and large thighs. Since you like guessing games, I'm guessing you're another artistic ectomorph whose feet have never been planted on terra firma.

Your writing is BORING. Do NOT give up that day job ... if you've got one. BTW ... I don't care what Nastarana said about me. The only exchanges that mean something to me here are those from BeingThere, SJMom, Janos, P4C, ComradeDystopia, and sometimes Ozone. As you can see, I like to talk to OBSERVANT liberals and conservatives. Their "ism" means less than their acuity.

It figures that you're a novelist (or you imagine you're one) because you don't have the FACT BASE to write an interesting nonfiction that would enlighten people.


E.


I agree with Ozone. Newquist is the designation replacement asshole for Asoka but is NOT Asoka himself. Not that it matters. One provocateur leaves, another enters. Yawn.

E.

Got some questions for the anti-whites here about the SI swimsuit issue. Too white? Too sexist? And don't you feel dumb for saying yes to either question?
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I don't know about the anti-white part but here's my assessment of this year's SI swimsuit cover girl:

She certainly has an enormous set of tits spilling out of her bikini top and that would normally be a real positive for me ... so long as everything else about her lived up to the promise of those tits. (There is, of course, the question of enhancement, but my extremely practiced eye says they're the genuine article.)

Unfortunately, I see at least two flaws: One, she has bird legs from the knees down, i.e. insufficient calves and two, (and this sounds her death knell for me) she has an extreme case, like so many young women today, of "vocal fry" (I heard her interviewed on TV) that, in a matter of seconds after "the act," would touch off a sever bout of post-coital depression in me. I would not want to discuss grammar, usage or peak oil over a cup of coffee with this girl.

The time had come at last, as it always does for the woman in wait: she was feeding the edited version of me through the paper shredding machine. Pen, ink and words written on screen and paper no longer sufficed; she issued a non-negotiable demand for the unedited me. It was now rough draft time, with my soul written naked on the tablet of her skin in sweat, scent and fluid.
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WOW! Another novelist emerges from our ranks.

Post more Buck, I want to see where ^this^ paragraph is leading.

"...the question of enhancement, but my extremely practiced eye says they're the genuine article."
-k/q-

It's not sufficient to practice with your eye, K.
One must also be willing to practice with his fingertips if the situation calls for it.

If you care to call and set it up with Kate, I will volunteer - bringing, of course, the obligatory permission slip from my wife. ;0)

Now, my opinion is that Kate has had a least a minor bit of a boob job - and a very good one, at that. And it's good to see a model with a tiny bit of meat on her bones, instead of the runway gazelles that pass for models these days.

A third opinion, anyone?
http://news.makemeheal.com/celebrity-plastic-surgery/kate-upton-breast-implants/2711
Miami plastic surgeon Dr. Michael Salzhauer says, “Kate Upton does appear to have breast implants as revealed by the very distinct and sharp transition from her full cleavage to her chest. Her breast augmentation fits her frame well and balances out her proportions.” -article-

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And Newworld, regarding the SI Swimsuit edition being "too white." I've been noticing that media outside of pro sports, is pretty "white" these days. Whatever is there - I will GUARANTEE you that it is focus-grouped, first. Nothing is random, anymore.

And SI is for men, right. Most every hetero man - red, yellow, black, white - enjoys looking at attractive white women. I suspect that that is not universal for women of other races.

Just a theory.

Is this site too White?
How many PoC post here?

My mother used to say, "it's far better to light a match, then to curse the darkness." Seems sensible. Seems. But it's really not. It's far more sensible to do neither. Don't light that match. Once our species did, things have gone terribly wrong. Don't ever curse the dark. Embrace it. Respect it for what it is; another perspective. We didn't evolve with light surrounding us constantly, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. Our current way of life, one that shuns the dark and nurtures and expands artificial light whilst blocking out natural light via particle pollution during the day, and artificial light pollution obscuring the moon, stars and planets during the night, is an unhealthy one. Can we get back to that place where we listen to, and respect, our Circadian Rhythm? A rhythm that evolved over the ages and is in tune with nature? It seems unlikely, but you never know.

I've read great writing because I had a good Quaker education in Pennsylvania. I was reading Graham Greene, Franz Kafka, Albert Camus, and Aldous Huxley in 10th grade.

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So. What's the point of making this statement? Do you think anyone cares who or what you are? They don't. And, nobody cares that you were a teacher, or that you published a book, or that you hang out on youtube and comment about women's smoking styles.

By the way, all that reading, and yet you're still incapable of an original thought.

For someone who complains about "liberals" so much, you sure as hell appear to be one. I don't frequent cafes. In fact, I can't stand Starbucks and the like. The people there are loathsome losers, trying to connect, but unable to, maybe because they've had their selfish heads buried in too many books for far too long and didn't develop appropriate social habits. Cafes are so "liberal." Get out of your Birkenstocks, and get into a cabin in a remote forest somewhere if you want to be taken seriously as a White Nationalist. Otherwise, your impression of one is severely lacking.

Speaking of bodies, are any of you familiar with the show "Girls?" It's currently in the middle of its second season after having won numerous awards in its first. I started watching a few weeks ago to see what all the fuss was about.

The show is the brain-child of a (now) 26 year old girl named Lena Dunham. She has created a show the antithesis of Sex in the City. At her tender age Lena does everything: writes, produces, stars in and God knows what else. If the credits at the end scrolled more slowly I wouldn't be surprised to learn that she handled lighting, sound and studio rest room toilet cleaning. The girl is a phenom.

Lena, whose character's name is Hannah, and three female chums are ordinary to a fault. They are not four beauties with great wardrobes and careers a la Carrie Bradshaw et al. They are young women in the big city with job and guy problems (the guys are no prizes either). The situations and dialogue have a hyper-reality about them. The casualness with which every taboo is dealt is at first startling.

On Sunday night past, Hanna winds up, by plausible happenstance, in the home of a handsome guy down the block from where she works. The guy and the place (including a grand piano) are stunning. Hanna is so taken that she plants a kiss on him and then instantly apologizes. He is not at all offended by her forwardness and they begin making out. He lifts her onto a counter, she throws her legs around him and they screw. In the midst of all this sexual heat she asks "how old are you?" he says "42", she says "I'm 24 so that's less than 20 years difference so that's OK," or some such dialogue. Then they screw again. Then they are seen playing ping pong (he has a game room), he in underwear shorts with a rippling six-pack, she in her panties and unflattering muffin-top ... that's it, no bra. Then they screw again over one end of the ping pong table. Did I mention...this show is on HBO?

Now, mind you, this Lena Dunham has actually allowed herself to be seen naked by an entire TV production crew not to mention millions more when the show airs.

Now I come to my point.......

Ms Dunham, frankly, has a lousy body. She is poorly proportioned with way too much weight below the waistline relative to above the waist. Her legs are shapeless and she is some-what knock-kneed. She has small uninteresting tits. She has several (real-life) awful looking tattoos. You never get to see the tatts long enough to determine exactly what they are. There is some god-awful thing on her right shoulder and there is a large splotch on her left side/back about half the distance between her armpit and elbow. Gorbachev's forehead came to mind but this was four times larger.

Lena Dunham is an incredibly self confident young woman with no visible reason for such confidence. Her smiles are genuine and her un-self-conscious promiscuity is actually charming. What else but her bottomless talent could explain such self-confidence? It is almost unfair.

My mother used to say, "it's far better to light a match, then to curse the darkness."
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OMG, I hope not. Did she actually say then rather than than?

She did, that's why it's in quotes. To honor her memory, regardless of her grammatical errors. Unlike me, she unfortunately did not have you around to nip at her heels.

Gorbachev's forehead came to mind but this was four times larger.

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I always wandered about that, so a while back, I did some research, and come to find out, it's a burn scar from his delivery as an infant. They were having a tough time getting him out, and they eventually had to use the forceps. The doctor had one too many shots of vodka and picked up the ones that had just been sterilized, and they were scalding hot. He could have killed the man who ultimately saved the world from nuclear annihilation. Instead, he left an embarrassing and unsightly scar. Thankfully, they don't use forceps too often these days, and many U.S. doctors prefer Scotch to Vodka.

It just shows to go ya, I assumed that when you typed that quote it was YOU that messed up. Well, as they say, when you AS-SOOOM you make an ass of u and me.

I'm just messing with you. You had it right the first time. I screwed it up. No excuse.

Riddle...

What do you call a black person at a conservative conference?

answer:keynote speaker.

She has created a show the antithesis of Sex in the City.

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I don't think this is grammatically correct. In the least, it doesn't flow well. Maybe this would be better.

She has created a show that is the antithesis of Sex in the City.

or

She has created a show antithetical to Sex in the City.

The casualness with which every taboo is dealt is at first startling.

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You most definitely need a comma between "first" and "startling." It should read as follows:

The casualness with which every taboo is dealt is at first, startling.

The Jews produce alot of people like this - gifted mentally, and seeing all sexual morals as irrational Christian taboos. And is this kind of casualness even good for sex ultimately? Can eroticism survive such a thing?

And yes, they control the gigantic porn industry.

Liberals and Conservatives have different brain patterns. Liberals have a damadged Amygdala which doesn't allow them to percieve danger. Instead, they are excessively social or "over socialized" and hate those who have normal reticence and decorum.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2278418/Cameron-Miliband-really-different-wavelength-People-different-ends-political-spectrum-use-brains-differently.html

"Lena Dunham is an incredibly self confident young woman with no visible reason for such confidence. Her smiles are genuine and her un-self-conscious promiscuity is actually charming. What else but her bottomless talent could explain such self-confidence? It is almost unfair." -Q.

In a merit-based ideation of a hierarchical society, this is perfectly fair. Were the Nazi leadership cadre the finest examples of the Aryan ideal that they wanted to impose upon the world by force and genocide? (Snaps of these rather genetically-challenged folk are still available.)

I'm a little hesitant to reveal this to you, but a large majority of the lumpenprole happen to be "unbeautiful", are quite ordinary-looking, and haven't even the palest chance of appearing in a Victoria's Secret catalog (or its' male-modeled counterpart, whatever that might be). ;o)

It's too late. The colonisers have been colonised, and every day brings more. Don't hope for a fast collapse. It is most unlikely.

I counsel resignation and acceptance. I call it realism. It is simply uncanny how history has conspired to bring us to this point, where we are in an exquisitely calibrated trap of our own making. We are losing. And we can't breathe a word about it. We can only gaze at the ground as we walk around, because to look up is to see the faces of our conquerors.

And we deserve it. We created a machine that devoured the world, and now it has come for us.

"She has created a show the antithesis of Sex in the City."
Neglecting to introduce a relative clause with a relative pronoun is sometimes an error. It's an error when it obliges you to reread the sentence. That's not the case with the sentence quoted. Grammatically, the sentence is correct.

And the beginning of the control goes a long way back, at least to the thirties. When neither British nor American publishers would touch the work of Henry Miller or D H Lawrence or Lawrence Durrell, the Obelisk Press in Paris gave them a warm welcome.

You most definitely need a comma between "first" and "startling." It should read as follows:

The casualness with which every taboo is dealt is at first, startling.
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Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa

"For a lot of us out here enlisting in the Armed Forces was the best thing we ever did."
snip
What more could you ask for at 19 years old? Who gives a sh-t if it was 'socialist' or any other goddam thing?" -comradeD-

Concur, comrade.
And I also agree that "carol" may be our new Resident Impediment. Is "she" assigned by the DoD?
Was Soaker Hose assigned by the DoD?
Who knows. Time will tell, perhaps.

As regards military service, I'll go on record with a now vanished poster, SNAFU, in saying that ending the draft was the worst thing that Tricky Dick ever did. I was 18 at the time, and still remember the relief, though. The fact that I volunteered 4 years later - - well, it's hard to keep a young man content, I suppose.

I'm glad you enjoyed your time in the Navy. Sounds like great duty. And I admire the way you play up the "fun" and downplay the rest. That's admirable. And it's relatively uncommon, as men age.

In my experience and I've got a LOT of veterans in my family, the men who saw the hardest duty tend to be the quietest about it. And the opposite - naturally - usually seems to be the case as well.

I've got a family member who served two years in the Navy during Vietnam. So that was 45 years ago, right. Problem is, the man (who has no sons) is WAAY to gung ho about all things National Defense Related - and has been since RR was president.

So, OK, whatever - right?
Except the man's Navy service saw him in Europe in a Fiat he bought over there - tooling around the Continent. He never got any closer to Vietnam than Greece. And he never set foot on a ship.
Oh well, duty is duty.

Speaking of duty, we've got one Iraqi vet. in the family. He's done two tours. To talk to him, you would never know he was in the service. If you knew he'd served in Iraq, you'd never know he went outside the wire.

He got to drinking beer with my son and a couple of us one night though, and opened up a little bit. He pulled some rough duty. And you'd never know.

Duty is duty, indeed.
Thanks CD.

'percieve', 'I' before 'E' except after 'C'.

For a lot of us out here enlisting in the Armed Forces was the best thing we ever did.
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Dick Alrich and I graduated HS in '58 (you last heard about Dick sitting with me on the cellar steps laughing our asses off when my HAM radio Dad yelled "son of s bitch bastard I DID NOT get it.")

I went to college; Dick went in the Navy (out of "No-fuck," VA). We corresponded by snail mail. There was no such thing as email nor, even, computers. I'd get funny letters telling me about the "chief boats" telling the deck scrubbing crew... "I don't wanna see nuthin but assholes and elbows." The best, though, was the tale of the ship's "phantom shitter." Huge steaming piles were turning up everywhere. I roared at the image of the admin clerk removing the cover from his typewriter one morning to find a still-soft turd squished into the keys. (Nearly 50 years later I day dreamed of depositing a gigantic wet load into Mot's keyboard and sprinkling his Prozac and Ritalin pills on it...like breading chicken.)

The Navy guys would mock the Coast Guardsmen with "Join the Coast Guard and see the coast."

All in all I think Dick enjoyed his 4 year stint.

Every decade increases the 3rd world population by nearly a billion.
Spill over should have been minimal, not intentional.

I like Lucky better than you, GoGo.


Martin Hayes said:
It's too late. The colonisers have been colonised, and every day brings more. Don't hope for a fast collapse. It is most unlikely.

I counsel resignation and acceptance. I call it realism. It is simply uncanny how history has conspired to bring us to this point, where we are in an exquisitely calibrated trap of our own making. We are losing. And we can't breathe a word about it. We can only gaze at the ground as we walk around, because to look up is to see the faces of our conquerors.

And we deserve it. We created a machine that devoured the world, and now it has come for us.
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Part of the "agonizingly slow collapse" idea is bringing over Chinese and Indians to prop out housing prices 'cause Whites are now downwardly mobile. Indeed, this IS a trap of our own making.

You counsel resignation and acceptance which is a sort of realpolitik view of how to cope. Personally, I think that said propping of prices has a limited lifespan and the very foreigners that are being lured in will find their net worth sinking faster than the Titanic when the insolvent Fed stops buying mortgaged backed securities because rising rates have destroyed their own bond portfolio. Whitey need do NOTHING. Pull up a deck chair and just watch when we hit the iceberg.

E.

Uncanny? Or planned? It's far from coincidental that all White Nations opened their borders. The economic excuse expired decades ago. It's genocide by the Group that hates us. And our White Leaders are too selfish to care.

Femme Bot said:

So. What's the point of making this statement? Do you think anyone cares who or what you are? They don't. And, nobody cares that you were a teacher, or that you published a book, or that you hang out on youtube and comment about women's smoking styles.
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This is just a guess, Carol, but since about 100 ex-students stay in contact with me, I'm surmising that a LOT of people (including my wide circle of friends and even a few CFN'ers) give a bigger shit about me than they do about a wannabee like you.

I see that you have become obsessed enough about me that you actually comb YouTube for my sarcastic comments about women's smoking videos. This rather contradicts your allegation that you don't give a shit about me or any facets of my life. I think you're wildly grasping at straws. By the way, there are MANY Eleutheros on YouTube so the other Eleutheros start calling themselves Eleuthero2, 3, 5, 7, whatever.

Why don't you try being consistent so that you get mistaken for a RATIONAL BEING now and then. Only a couple of dupes have been roped in by you here and, frankly, I don't get it because your prose is sophomoric in that it is obsessed by topics that are nonentities.


E.


O3 said:
The assumption of E.'s corpulence is STILL unsubstantiated, as are anyones' assumptions, of course.
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I'm not but the comical point is ... WHO CARES? Carol Newquist is a highly irrational being who posits whatever she imagines about a person's actual state of being while claiming not to care on iota about them. She combed YouTube for evidence of comments I made while feigning indifference to my very existence.

How can you believe a person whose thoughts and actions are 180 degrees apart?


E.


Wannabee said:
For someone who complains about "liberals" so much, you sure as hell appear to be one.
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That's because you have no clue what real conservatives and/or real liberals are. A real liberal would never shut down ANY conversation even if unpleasant truths are revealed. Thus, the Orwellian "liberals" who occupy schools are really Marxists who want us to buy untruths on the scale of "1984" and "Animal Farm" i.e., untruths that are repeated as slogans.

The modern "conservative" that votes for the Patriot Act and more and more defense funding for foreign wars should be forced to read the writings of the Constitutionalists that he/she claim to be allied with.

Carol, just because you're uninformed, have no historical context about politics, and are willfully and brashly stupid doesn't mean that ANY noun or adjective you apply to a person becomes "correct" just because you have the chutzpah to utter it.

I can't wait 'til you and your sycophants take the critique of irrelevant minutiae of your dull writing elsewhere. It's the height of intellectual dilettantism similar to what one finds in other places, like Berkeley, Santa Cruz, or San Francisco where lots of dodos attend "salons" where mutual ego-preening is the primary activity so that extremely tertiary people can feel like they're part of a "scene".

E.

The inside scoop from a real mensch. You have defended the Jews all your life. He doesn't.

http://henrymakow.com/girls-illuminati-normalize.html

Hitler never said he himself was the New Man. He said explicitly that he was the servant of them. All Races have a higher Archetype, even Blacks. But they are very far from that, much farther than we are from our's. And if we mix the races, no one will attain their destiny.

Behold the perfection of the Annunaki Race. They were once as we were. We will look a bit like this someday but without the reddish eyes or vaguely oriental features.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=TIYrTgxhPjA

I'm sorry to go over old ground with you, and sophomorically too, but I need to do it for the sake of my mental health, if nothing else. The joke is on me if I describe myself as a realist, and then the very next thing that happens is that it is suggested that I have failed to notice what is in front of my very eyes.

That is why I will repeat that I find it eery that the doors have been thrown open in every white nation, as anyone can see. It appears to be deliberate policy but I can't realistically make this claim, however tempting, because there is no documentary evidence to support it. Where is the plan? Where is the money quote? Where is the paper trail?

It's reasonable to attribute these events, not so much to coincidence, but to economic forces, particularly wage arbitrage, still in play.

Every now and again I see a comment at, say, the Daily Telegraph in which "race replacement" is mentioned. Right now, this idea has the status of a conspiracy theory — and one that people do not find alluring and can't be induced to take seriously.

At least when Antony C. Sutton sought to show that the Cold War was all just theatre for the rubes, when in fact the USSR was a client state of the US, and had been provided with materiel, including munitions, to ensure the success of its Communist revolution, he provided plenty of documentary evidence to back his claim. I don't know how good a case he made, but he at least tried to satisfy the rules of evidence.

If people won't believe what their own nervous system is telling them, if their amygdala doesn't function as it should, and they are therefore being willingly led like lambs to the slaughter, against a backdrop of the capture and ruin of their ancestral lands, then why do you think empty assertion and obscurantist racial theory will persuade them? (Please understand that I'm not trying to needle you.)

Jam47 you mention Obelisk Press in Paris publishing controversial authors like Henry Miller and Lawrence Durrell back in the 30s. We had a small publishing house here about the same time up the road a way in Norfolk, CT, New Directions, created by James Laughlin, who did much the same thing. Later on as he got more successful he moved to NYC.

It was the small press that as willing to take a chance and publish works that were, in effect, illegal. Lawrence Ferlinghetti's City Lights in San Francisco and Ginsberg's 'Howl' come to mind.

Starting up a small publishing house has always been a risky venture in many ways. I suspect the internet has had a deleterious effect on them, as well as a disintegrating economy. I have friends who still operate old hand cranked letter presses as a hobby. Perhaps in a post collapse America this is what we will go back to.

--CD

Also, check out Harry Crosby and his 'Black Sun Press' in Paris in the 1920's. Its really what you would call Avante Gard, and Crosby was One Wild Character.

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If you say so. And if so, it proves how absurd the rules of grammar can be. The sentence sucks. It's confusing, and it lacks a pleasing rhythm. It makes the reader say to himself/herself, "this doesn't sound right," and forces he/she to reread it, not for any deeper meaning, but merely for syntactical purposes. It's a waste of the reader's time, and if it's only done once or twice, it can be forgiven and overlooked, but done often enough it will cause the reader to disregard the remainder of the work. You, as a copy-editor, should have been quick to point that out to Kyooshtik.

What is going to be of particular pleasure as collapse slowly unfolds in the years ahead, is when your vaunted massive entitlement program called the military, comes to get the likes of you and your "comrades" here. When they do, and believe me, they will, I will laugh in your faces. You will deserve nothing less. You are going to get what's coming to you, quite literally, in spades. Massive platoons of minorities with unprecedented firepower will descend on Red State "America" in a final, bloody purge of regressionists like yourself, and maybe then, our species will finally be able to socially evolve.

Hey Q, how about that Russian Yacht tied up down there in NYC? Biggest Private Vessel in the World? It looks like the owner has his pregnant wife aboard and wants her to have the baby in the USA, conferring US citizenship on the little one. What do you want to bet that the ship is crewed by Admirals from the Russian Navy, with ex Spetznatz Generals providing security?

CD

I'm sure you're right. Military types are trained to be hand-maidens to wealth and power, in whatever form that takes.

Ladies and Gentlemen of the CFNation:

I do believe that we have found someone with even more hate than the Resident Impediment. To wit:

"When they do, and believe me, they will, I will laugh in your faces. You will deserve nothing less. You are going to get what's coming to you, quite literally, in spades. Massive platoons of minorities with unprecedented firepower will descend on Red State "America" in a final, bloody purge of regressionists like yourself,..."
-"carol," on a good use of military power-

So, violence is OK, as long as you approve?
Genocide is great, as long as you approve?

And racial double entendres like "spades," are fine, as long as they originate with you?

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And, as per normal for "you," you make assumptions, for example, that I am a "regressionist," when you have little or no evidence for that.

And you assume that something you call "social evolution" is a desirable goal - when a society of post-peak-everything will demonstrate that it was an impossible and very undesirable goal.

Regress that.

What lovely people.
What a lovely continent for "social evolution."

"Though slavery was outlawed in 1960, Mali is one of the countries in the world where the practice of human servitude flourishes, with as many as 200,000 Bella living a life of hereditary enslavement."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/14/mali-slavery/1920579/

So, violence is OK, as long as you approve?
Genocide is great, as long as you approve?

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Not at all. I'm just reading the tea leaves. The tea leaves indicate what's coming. There's nothing you and your ilk can do to stop it. Your world is ending, and instead of accepting that graciously and moving on to the next world, you have turned defensive, violent and hostile, and by doing so, you will bring the same upon yourself. Not by me, but neither will I lament your world passing. I will take no pleasure in the suffering, but I will take pleasure in knowing that you and your ilk can no longer dole out any pain, suffering, death and destruction that you have been for hundreds of years.

So, violence is OK, as long as you approve?
Genocide is great, as long as you approve?

"you and your ilk can no longer dole out any pain, suffering, death and destruction that you have been for hundreds of years."
- the resident hater-

The sins of the father's father's father's fathers - must be avenged by death to all who disagree?

Then "carol" will be happy?

No you won't.

And another thing, "carol."

Intuitively - you KNOW your "ideas" are repugnant to the human spirit, and impossible to implement - without resort to violence and genocide.

Which is why you are so gleeful at the prospect OF that violence and genocide.

There is no other explanation for your attitude.

Sounds like Asoka [RI] and his 'Muslim and Latino
reconquista' riff.
I see the natives, I mean Somalis in the USA are
again restless. They have been rioting in Minnesota.

Carol, just because you're uninformed, have no historical context about politics, and are willfully and brashly stupid doesn't mean that ANY noun or adjective you apply to a person becomes "correct" just because you have the chutzpah to utter it. - E. to Carol
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^This^ is an excerpt from an intellectual-style long-form beatdown by E.

The short-form beatdown (which I am surprised has not already appeared) made famous by Mistified would comprise a brief sentence or two ending with "you are a FUCKTARD and a MORON."

As in boxing, styles make fights.

Ads for food stamps in Mexico and meetings with Mexican officials over how to import more Mexicans.

The inside scoop from a real mensch.
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Your problem Vlad (and BTW, I continue to use Vlad rather than Jaego, Radu or Janos for its simplicity and recognizability).. your problem is that you see terms like Satanic and evil as absolutes carved by God in a monolith floating through time and space, pre-existing man and independent of what man thinks of these concepts.

Lena Dunham has NOT been attending (2000 years and running) Jewish conspiracy meetings to bring down the White Western World. As interesting and entertaining as your posts are, you're somewhat delusional in this respect.

Lucky13,

About those school riots in Minneapolis ..

A few years back I was in a hotel in Central New Hampshire. On the local TV news there was a report of Somali riots. The video showed natives in robes and loin clothes running thru the streets carrying spears. There were the usual burning overturned cars, smashed storefront windows and general chaos. I wondered why a local news station would spend so much time on an event in Africa that probably wasn't al that unusual there. Then I found out they were reporting from downtown Portland, Maine.

--CD

About ten years ago, a friend of mine took me to an Ethiopian restaurant in downtown Toronto. He'd brought a copy of Howl with him, and after he'd eaten he read it out to me, and read it well. But I was too ill at the time to fully concentrate on what he was saying, so all I can recollect of Howl is its famous beginning ( "I saw the best minds..."), which I knew already. But if no publisher other than City Lights was willing to take it on, there must have been some scandalous stuff in it.

And yes, Harry Crosby was wild. But since he didn't have to work for a living, he could afford to be. I read a biography of him about thirty years ago--Black Sun was the title. As you probably know, he killed himself in a New York hotel room. He persuaded his lover to die with him, which was one more proof-it seems to me-of his strong personality.


I can't wait 'til you and your sycophants take the critique of irrelevant minutiae of your dull writing elsewhere. It's the height of intellectual dilettantism similar to what one finds in other places, like Berkeley, Santa Cruz, or San Francisco where lots of dodos attend "salons" where mutual ego-preening is the primary activity so that extremely tertiary people can feel like they're part of a "scene". - E. to Carol
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I really like the thrashing you deliver ^here^ but I can't help feeling that in the first sentence you're taking a potshot at ME. "Sycophant" is a little strong don't you think. And if insults are to be hurled... I think your incessant bragging (mesomorph physique) is childish and makes for a lousy rejoinder. When you wrote of having 100 former students who still correspond with you I automatically reduced the figure to MAYBE half a dozen. You simply must find another way of expressing your worth than yelling "Damnit Carol, I AM SO a great person!! WHY won't you BELIEVE me!?"

Initially I thought s(he) did a nice job of setting us up for something yet to be revealed with "..not me, not any more" and by repeating it a few times but I'll grant you it's getting old.

My main reason for encouraging continuation of the story is to find out what makes the author tick. Since fiction is by its nature (nearly) always autobiographical I felt we might get to the source of Carol's harsh worldview.

BTW, I had always thought of a "Salon" as a place where women get their hair and nails done. Ya learn something new every day.

She's part of it, born into it and didn't reject it. Makow has. That's the difference. How about you? Where do you stand? You can't see it because it's all around you - like water around a fish.

She's part of it, born into it...
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Kyoo: "You're paranoid!"

Vlad: "Yeah...but what if there REALLY ARE people following me?"

A paper trail! Like Hansel and Gretel? Why do you need a paper trail when all the Trees of the Forest have placards on them declaring it? Read Orianna Fallaci and Bat Yeor for the Gentile side of it. The Jews in Europe now pretend they had nothing to do with it. Evidently, Babs Spectre didn't get the memo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Vq_e2Z1ug

Bat Yeor and Fallaci say that the precursors to the EU made a Pact with the Arabs to create Eurabia for access to oil. But there are other reasons. What was the name of that Labor guy who admitted that Labor hated Conservatives so much that they wanted to change the population? But again, it's deeper than that: it a world wide program to demoralize us, invade us, and ultimately destroy us. The unique evil of the White Man is taught at all the Universities! You must know this. And the Priests of the Cult are mostly Jews. Read Kevin MacDonald. But it's mutli-generational now - and there are yonger gentile Priests and Priestesses of it now too.

Sure there are lesser reasons, there always are. Even though there is no economic benefit anymore, massive immigration does strengthen the Socialists and the Bureacrats. But again, how did people get to be so devoid of all National, Ethnic, and Racial pride? That didn't appear over night. And Socialism doesn't have to mean any of those things. National Socialism doesn't mean just Nazis, many Nations have and do have it. The Golden Dawn in Greece is a new appearance and it will save Greece if it succeeds.

It's deep and old. To imagine Whites just decided to die cannot be true. Can you imagine Blacks or East Asians ever behaving like this? I can't even imagine a similar program working on them. Like many, I think Whites may have some kind of flaw. Or perhaps it's the dark side of capacity for fairness and Liberalism. We get so much into seeing all sides of an argument, that we forget to take our own in the end. And after the course of programming called a University Education, that becomes the only "moral" and decent thing to do. Any other course becomes unthinkably ignoble. But Jefferson and all other real moralists said Suvival is the first morality. Thus our most Educated are now simply the most Programmed. An insane situation.

Yes pure Asoka. But Zone and Kyoo are right too - it's not easy to write in another style and create a new character. On the other hand, "she" knows us too well to be completely new here. Sure she could have been lurking for years, but that doesn't seem in her character. And why come out now, just as Asoka disappears?

How about you? Where do you stand? You can't see it because it's all around you -
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The Jews do exactly what you wish Whites would do: They exclude the great unwashed OTHER and take care of old #1. And the Jews are so successful at it it really pisses you off.

You seem never to have figured out how they got to the top in finance, media, medicine, violin, etc. in numbers out of all proportion to their percentage of the population ... that it was due to smarts, ambition and genetic exclusion. Incredibly, YOU blame THEM for arranging that Whites don't do the same. THEY haven't arranged for us to be stooopid. WE'VE done it all by ourselves. We've made our own bed and now we must lie in it.

Seems that "Carol" has a bit of a superiority complex. Calls us dullards. Last week I invited her to make herself scarce but apparently she declined my invitation.

"Carol" paints a self portrait as this fearless crusader. Well, on the internet you can say anything you like. "Carol" says she's been fired over and over because she spoke truth to power. "Carol", head held high, middle finger in the air as she's escorted off the premises by corporate security goons.

How about this alternate picture: "Carol" walking down the street kicking stones. Just another unemployed nobody, fired again, with steadily diminishing prospects, wondering how to pay the rent.

Message to "Carol"

You say things like "your world". News flash baby, it's "yours" too. Unless you live on another planet. You wanna talk about death and destruction? You live in the US? Are you a US citizen? It's stolen land. Didn't you know? So do this, self deport your ass. Oh wait, let me guess, you're going to claim Amerindian descent. Yes, yes, you have a taste for bear meat. Yes, yes your Chickasaw grannie showed you how to cook it. Sure she did. On the reservation no less. Using a cast iron pot handed down from the days of the Trail of Tears. Sheesh, quite the heirloom.

Let me suggest rather that you lived within this system and you personally benefitted. You use the internet, which after all was developed by some serious assholes. Billionaire assholes. Something like those people that you "put in their place"? So who are you to talk? Look at the founders of businesses whose products you've used all your life. Any saints among them? No? What's that? Every last one you'd describe as il jerkoffo di tutti jerkoffi? Dear me, that's pretty rough language. Yet you still buy their goods. Oh yeah right, you buy ethical coffee. Sure you do.

Maybe you think you own the market on personal virtue? Guess what, nobody gives a damn. When TSHTF do you think that there will be scales of justice weighing out who was "good" and who wasn't? Wakey wakey eggs 'n bakey. Look at the long train of lamentable events in human history. Doesn't matter whether you're good or bad, young or old. During the Rape of Nanking, the Seige of Stalingrad, the London Blitz, the firebombing of Dresden, whoever got in the way got toasted.

Let me suggest "Carol" that you have been complicit in this grand scheme of of economic and institutional plunder, you have been a collaborator in the military/industrial complex. The complex took from you and you took from the complex. Just like all of us. And you did it knowingly. Admit it. The internet is the place for deception. But don't engage in self deception "Carol". You are guilty. Guilty, guilty, guilty. Guilty as anybody. Do the right thing, confess your guilt.

And, even if you aren't guilty, the cruel penis of fate is indifferent. When it all comes crashing down you will be just as fucked as the rest of us.

I hope you agree that in the interest of equality, women should have to register for the draft. Surely they should have to share the duties not just the privledges of equality?

Equally, we must realize that nobility is virtually non-existent in the fairer sex. They will avoid any and all duties and unpleasantness if they can get away with it. Women join the military for the career benefits. The drive for women in combat is for the career advancement. They don't care if the can't do, just lower the standards. So what if the American Military becomes inferior as long as they can advance. And of course, many women "find" themselves pregnant before deployment. This will only increase and drastically as the risk increases.

Lie in it? To the point of allowing ourselves to be genocided? I appreciate you candour - you've never admitted this much before. And surely, I've posted countless time on White stupidity in this regard. But even the patriotards have noticed this time, in regards to the gun grab. They love their guns even more than they love the Jews. No other issue can bring them together with White Nationalists or "Nahtsies" to these morons.

To Carol Newpriss:

Malth is apparently meant to serve in lieu of Malthus, but this lazy-ass Janos can't be bothered to type two more letters.

Hey, it's just a chat board, Carol. (Sorry about contracting "it is," m'am.) You don't like Americans? We are your descendents. Where's the parental love? Even tribal loyalty?

Goodness gracious.

Hey, we Americans are creative at least. You can find something to like about your racial family? (Improper grammar to give you something to do.)

Anyhoo, lady, I think your complaint against Janos has to be called a pritchy pirot into pointless pettiprigging, not to mention massive pifflewhittling, plus an obnubilation of the fact that he is a stellar poster.

I wrote this post in lieu of being nice to you, since you were not nice to him. Tribal loyalty.

Great post. Amazing how Liberal/Leftists become "omniscient" narrators or "invisible" witnesses when they get into this kind of fantasy. They forget they will be fully fleshed characters in the Novel when that bloody chapter opens.

Which is why you are so gleeful at the prospect OF that violence and genocide.

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Not true. Whereas the character Steve worships the Corporation and his corpulence is symbolic of that, I worship irony. It's a good thing to worship, too, because it's ubiquitous, and it's free. When I am reading the tea leaves, I am gleeful of the irony they contain, and that irony is that the same military that forced my mother and father to pay tribute to it via their hard-earned income so knobs like CD could float around the Caribbean raping Island girls at will and sliding from one drunken rampage to the next like privileged frat boys, will now descend upon those of you who continue to defend its current existence and pretend it's something other than a mercenary force for the Plutocratic Oligarchy. That which you manifested, is now before you. You were gleeful whilst it served your purposes, and now that it's not, well, too late. You danced with the devil, and now that demon is going to get its due.

Think of women soldiers living in the filthy, sepsis drenched trenches of the Western Front of 1917, or at Iwo Jima, or at Normandy in 1944. Do they think warfare is going to be any less bloodless, more sanitary, more 'fair' in the 21st century? It most likely will be worse. Putting the ladies out there beggars all sense.

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"Please, international lurkers, have mercy on us. Not all of us are like him. Janos, Janos, Janos, how many times do you have to be told, it's you're, not your. Shame on you, you lazy racist bigot."

After "told" a color or a period would have been more grammatically correct. Not to mention thoughtful and intelligent. This, further, would have informed you that "it's" needed to start with a capital.

Long live the peoples!
Love your people!

One must be a racist to express the above beautiful sentiments. (Yes, they are above beautiful, Ms. Newpriss.)

Goes to show that when you adopt the lexicon of genocidalist J/ws (Trotskey et al) -- your mind does rot. A possibility mentioned by the spectacular poster Janos in some other connection.

Sounds kind of sexy to me. Sex is very closely related to death. Besides, what a great distraction it would have been in the trenches aside from booze. If enough women were in the trenches, perhaps enough of the men would have said, "you know what, screw you Sarg, I'd rather stay here and make love. You go ahead, I'm not fighting anymore." Think how many lives would have been spared. Think of how pissed the Elite would have been. They wanted their sacrifice. That sacrifice was the blood of others. They would have been deprived of it. And yet, CD won't support such deprivation. CD wants to ensure that the blood gets delivered. CD is a dolt. CD is not our friend. CD is in league with our captors.

"color"> "colon" (Just keeping Carol happy folks. My k.eyboard is miss-ing some keys, y'unerstan)

Comment:

But the men fight just the same, and on breaks, they rape the women. Needed to be pointed out.

"make love" is an Americanism, a hippie euphemism for fornication, which is a more European term.

"Booze" is likely an Americanism.

Funny how sniffy Europeans are so quick to Americanize theyselves. (Not to mention Africanize themselves, see below.)

And why the hell are you using an abbreviation "CD"? Isn't that "lazy-ass" of you? (A third Americanism from her.)

Just saying, Ms. Newquibble.

For some reason, hanging at this place makes me want to watch 12 Angry Men again. I think every one of those men, aside from Henry Fonda's character, is represented here. Kyooshtik comes the closest to that character, but it's not a one for one match. In fact, Kyooshtik is too good for some of you maggots. I'm not sure why he posts here, or hangs here. Perhaps for the same reasons I do. Something to do with diamonds and rough. Or, needles in haystacks. And boredom. This place is interesting when you view it as satire. It cannot be taken seriously, or if you do, the only purpose it can serve is something to use besides Lunesta to get to sleep.

After "told" a color or a period would have been more grammatically correct. Not to mention thoughtful and intelligent. This, further, would have informed you that "it's" needed to start with a capital.

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Another unsubstantiated claim. I don't think you're right. It can be either a comma or a period. Go back and play in your sandbox like a good little angry boy. Don't try to walk before you crawl. The crawling is a necessary step that should not be skipped. Or else, we get what you've done here.

And why the hell are you using an abbreviation "CD"? Isn't that "lazy-ass" of you? (A third Americanism from her.)

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When writing, you should consider your audience. Yes, it's regretful that I have to dumb myself down for the likes of you, but it's part of what makes me a considerate person. I know that's difficult for you to grasp. It's not your fault. You've been indoctrinated into a culture that lacks all basic consideration and encourages people to put their own selfish wants before all else. You can rise above that, but your first step in doing so, is to see that about yourself. You're not there yet, and from the looks of it, you most likely never will be. That's a pity.

You most definitely need a comma between "first" and "startling." It should read as follows:

The casualness with which every taboo is dealt is at first, startling."

This is patently incorrect, Me'me. If wanted to muck up his prose with needless commas ("is at first startling" is both direct and grammatically without flaw) -- one would need to include a second comma after "dealt":

"...is dealt is, at first, startling."

Otherwise your grammar is no better than a mediocre 13-year-old schoolgirl, Ms. Newquibble.

You are really no good at pettiprigging. Your main talent seems to be expressing mordant hate and vile wishes for your white descendents. (Kunstlerwurd in honor of James, whose prose I adore and who is a very nice fellow, too.)

"When writing, you should consider your audience."

Oh, but you don't suppose Janos does the same thing.

R is for Rocket.

"Or else, we get what you've done here."

The comma after "else" is utterly superfluous, not to mention an inanity. Your many grammatical errors make you sound like an African American. Or an African-in-Europe as the case may be.

Carol Newquist, preaching hypocritical rubbish to defend her nitpicking of grammar:

"You've been indoctrinated into a culture that lacks all basic consideration and encourages people to put their own selfish wants before all else."

Basic consideration like this?

Carol Newquist, expressing lusty pleasure at the thought of the racial genocide of her own people:

"What is going to be of particular pleasure...I will laugh in your faces. You will deserve nothing less. You are going to get what's coming to you, quite literally, in spades. Massive platoons of minorities with unprecedented firepower will descend on Red State "America" in a final, bloody purge of regressionists like yourself,...

Note the "spades." This creature poses as a white woman but it lusts for black men to kill white men. (In states where the Scottish, English, or Irish would have relatives.)

...and maybe then, our species will finally be able to socially evolve.

Evolve to be genocidal massacre artists, and perhaps one brown race lacking distinct peoples with distinct features and qualities! Carolian evolution!

A comma, amongst other things, is used to denote a pause, so no, it is not superfluous. Perhaps it's your inability as an unsophisticated reader to use it as a cue for the aforementioned, but, of course, you'd never admit to that. Instead, you'll continue to drag your knuckles and slap lipstick on your pig. Really, go cool yourself off in the shower. Lord only knows how many millions, or is it billions, of possible babies you've spilled in the sewer system. You ignored their barely perceptible screams as they swirled down the shower drain on their way to the ocean. Thank you for your service.

Everytime women urinate they are destroying our capacity to survive. Their birth controled hormones bleed into the water table and lower male sperm counts.

So many couples have to adopt. And why not be fashionable and get a non-White pet? Then all the other moms will ooh and aah and feel envious. What's not to love?

I read a great article I'll try to look for. Men on the Front have to take a shit right in front of other men. There might not be much in the way of toilet paper either. After three weeks on the front in Iraq, they finally came back to base. First order of business: strip them down and hose their disgusting bodies down. No bath for three weeks either. Ladies, you wouldn't have a problem with any of this would you? Carol? Dee? Be?

So do this, self deport your ass. Oh wait, let me guess, you're going to claim Amerindian descent. Yes, yes, you have a taste for bear meat. Yes, yes your Chickasaw grannie showed you how to cook it. Sure she did. On the reservation no less.
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Your sarcasm is getting better by the day, Rhino.

"A comma, amongst other things, is used to denote a pause, so no, it is not superfluous.

"Otherwise" is the same kind of structure as "or else." Do you always place a comma after every use of "otherwise"? To do so is adolescent and nothing more but a bad personal writing habit you picked somewhere, Ms. Newquibble.

Their birth controled

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It's controlled, not "controled." Where's Julian? Oh, that's right, he's up your ass, or you're up his. Sockpuppets are that way.

Also, there should be a comma between "this" and "would." "Americans" don't like commas. They're too lazy to use them, and they justify that laziness by calling commas superfluous and inane. Yet another example of how they like to put as much lipstick on their pig as it can possibly support. It doesn't hide the smell, though. The stink reaches every corner of the globe despite the lipstick.

Perhaps it's your inability as an unsophisticated reader to use it as a cue for the aforementioned, but, of course, you'd never admit to that.

This is a run-on sentence with too many commas. A decent writer would have broken it in two with a period after "aforementioned." He would not have used a comma after "but," or a comma after "of course." Both are superfluous. An educated person (if he wanted to include your hyperbolistic verbiage), would have written this:

Perhaps it's your inability, as an unsophisticated reader, to use it as a cue for the aforementioned. But of course you'd never admit to that.

See how much nicer that reads, Ms. Newpriss? Not to mention less pretentious and not giving the appearance of a black overdoing things to sound intelligent? Note that you had commas in places where they were unneeded; but omitted them where they were, Mr. Sophistication.

"Really, go cool yourself off in the shower. Lord only knows how many millions, or is it billions, of possible babies you've spilled in the sewer system. You ignored their barely perceptible screams as they swirled down the shower drain on their way to the ocean. Thank you for your service.

A very American-speak paragraph there, and very off-topic.

So I take it you have had an abortion and have feelings about it. Or perhaps you are one of those male bird dogs and this paragraph is intended to soften your thoughts of how many of your own progeny you have had offed?

This is a run-on sentence with too many commas. A decent writer would have broken it in two with a period after "aforementioned." He would not have used a comma after "but," or a comma after "of course." Both are superfluous. An educated person (if he wanted to include your hyperbolistic verbiage), would have written this:


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It's a matter of taste and style, not a matter of right and wrong. You appear to be using the flexibility of grammar as a straight jacket. I appreciate both styles, but I prefer my style when I'm writing. Call it whatever you like. If it's "uneducated" and "adolescent" to you, so be it. That's your impression. Thankfully, you're not representative of 99.9% of the population. Otherwise, publishers would have nothing to publish and no one would ever write. Go back to your hole in the ground you racist scum.

The last sentence has no commas just for you. Baby has to have all his veggies creamed for him. He doesn't like to chew.

Carol Newquist:

"It's controlled, not "controled."

It's a trait of blacks on web boards to fuss over grammatical errors and even typos as a strategy to mark racially aware whites as "unintelligent." Yet Janos is obviously intelligent and you can't use correct grammar.

Where's Julian?

Right here.

Oh, that's right, he's up your ass, or you're up his.

Males are more likely to refer to the hind regions, I'd note. Not ladies propping up European sensibilities. The phrase has a black feel as well.

"Sockpuppets are that way."

Funny. I'm actually posting in my real name; you're likely an African-American male posting as "Carol Newquist." Which is a rather funny prospect.

Also, there should be a comma between "this" and "would." "Americans" don't like commas...blah...blah...

Americans like commas fine. You use commas in the wrong places, omit them where they are needed, and use too many. Too many commas are the mark of an amateurish or juvenile writer. Or they betray an attempt to appear erudite. Consult the writing of Kunstler to learn about the correct use of commas and the avoidance of superfluous commas. He is a canny writer.

I would further note that this one's "lipstick on a pig" metaphor is very American, and is typically used by males, and especially by blacks. The average White European woman, for example, has no particular animosity toward either lipstick or cute little pigs and would not be inclined to disparage either one.

"It's a matter of taste and style, not a matter of right and wrong."

How "European" is that? Please.

Before you were one Miss White European English Pedagog from Literature 103, correcting errors. (Wrong things.) Most of which were not errors in the first place, I have to add.

Now you talk like one of those New Math "progressive" teachers in the American inner city who try to make the black and other failing students feel more comfortable in school with a new educational "no right or wrong" ethos. It's all style. How black is that?

"Carol Newquist," who poses as a European and ostensibly white female, has the following writing characteristics:

-- It doesn't write like a woman, but a man.

-- It doesn't express anything like a European attitude.

-- It uses a plenitude of American figures of speech, including a great many black American ones.

-- It attacks one of the few Whites on this board who believes that Whites have ethnic interests like everybody else.

-- It tries to establish authority by pointing to spelling errors, grammatical errors both imagined and real, and innocent typos.

-- It has no grammar skills itself.

I rest my case.

Most of which were not errors in the first place, I have to add.

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Speaking of superfluous, you could have ended the sentence by placing a period after "place." "I have to add" is not necessary, and is "the mark of an amateurish or juvenile writer." That's your entire life though, isn't it Julian? You've never held the mirror to yourself. You know you would crack it.

Who am I Julian? I'm that mirror, and the whole lot of you are cracking up.

"Carol Newquist," who poses as a European and ostensibly white female, has the following writing characteristics:

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An unsubstantiated claim based off of unsubstantiated claims made by others. Where do you get this? I've never said one thing about who or what I am. Everything that's been said about me is not only pure projection, but also absurdly irrelevant. I see you post at theoccidentalobserver and Kennysideshow. Egads!! I feel dirty even talking to you. You're a creep. God forbid a woman ever find herself alone in your presence.

"Carol Newquist" can't keep its persona straight. Here it's writing to Progress4Conserving:

"Which is why you are so gleeful at the prospect OF that violence and genocide."

Now "Carol Newquist" to somebody else:

"What is going to be of particular pleasure...I will laugh in your faces...Massive platoons of minorities with unprecedented firepower will descend on Red State "America" in a final, bloody purge...

This one's more interesting: "Carol Newquist" responding to an account of violent urban rioting, destruction, and burning by people in loincloths:

"Sounds kind of sexy to me.

Women tend to value security and don't take any pleasure in chaos, riots, or destruction. ('Tram Lady' Emma West of England had recently had her neighborhood of Croydon, where she was trying to raise an English boy, burned and rioted -- and we heard her express herself about that shortly afterward. She didn't find it "sexy.")Does a "White European female" find riots and violence "sexy"? I don't even think the most errant female antifa of Seattle actually likes the violence she may witness or finds it "sexy."

Then it said this:

"Sex is very closely related to death."

(Comment: Yes, it damages the male just like death.)

This as a preface for positive visualizations about having sex with female soldiers right on the battlefield. Now, who would be likely to have positive visualizations about women having sex with men in the military? A woman? Or a black male? (Hint: If not sure, look at who-rapes-who in the military, and how often, and how the average white woman in Europe views that it.)

The following is to correct an error I made in a post ("does" instead of "doesn't"), which makes it consistent, obviously, with all my other posts here. A troll type, apparently obsessed with me, hoisted the typo and put it in his signature.

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Let's play Guess Who Wrote It. Any guesses? Let's apply Julian's (very feminine name) unique grammar rules to the sentence above, and see what we get.

I must say, there have appeared today on the blog the niftiest bunch of insults I have seen in 4.6 years. Thanks to all involved. You know who you are.

Is the following a male, or a female?


What Am I?

Pat? Welcome to androgyny? Yuck!!


Femme Bot said:
An unsubstantiated claim based off of unsubstantiated claims made by others. Where do you get this?
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You are not only illogical but you are also a hypocrite. How many unsubstantiated claims have you made about me ALONE? You've painted me as a fat guy who drives a Denali and beats his wife. You're not only oh-for-three but comically so.

It's hilarious to see you get righteous indignation over someone else using the same rhetorical tactic as yourself.

E.

"...based off of..."

This is American phrasing, and typical of an average high school age male.

"...unsubstantiated claims made by others. Where do you get this?"

I have not seen what anybody else said about you. I rarely come here, and just noticed you this morning. My view of you is based on your writing alone. (Not based "off.")

...but also absurdly irrelevant.

Again, adolescent hyperbole, and very American.

I see you post at theoccidentalobserver and Kennysideshow. Egads!!

Never heard of Kennysideshow. But TheOccidentalObserver is a wonderful site, if a bit scholarly. I recommend it.

I feel dirty even talking to you. You're a creep.

Says the one who lusts to see the massacre of white people in whole states of the U.S. And says the male who poses as a female, accepting and toying with the stir and interest by males here.

I notice you have never contradicted or denied my charge or even attempted to contradict it.

"God forbid a woman ever find herself alone in your presence.

It is good to see your persona breaking down; you speaking of women as different than yourself. Also good to see you resort to tangential distractions.

Don't think that next time you post here under another name your Black American writing "style" won't be easily noticed again.


Femme Bot said:
I will take no pleasure in the suffering, but I will take pleasure in knowing that you and your ilk can no longer dole out any pain, suffering, death and destruction that you have been for hundreds of years.
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Then you should live in a grass hut in the Veldt in Africa with no indoor plumbing, no stove, no refrigerator ... nothing. Everything in your house was invented not only by a white male which must really chap your hide. Everything.

As for doling out "suffering, death, and destruction" you show ignorance of the fact that genocide, even TODAY, is a way of life in several parts of the Dark Continent of Africa.

You know, I'm beginning to think you just might be ASOKA. This "noble savage worship" and hatred of the white man sure sounds like his [i]modus operandi[/i].

E.

I agree with you Carol. For example, the use of a comma can be likened to a speed bump -I can't recall where I read that wonderful observation. So if a writer wants to slow his readers down in order to emphasize a point, bring out the speed bumps. But, perhaps, a comma is not such a good thing, in this instance, to slow down the pace, before placing before a colon.

A colon likes it quick and fast: Deep to feel the emphasis!

5' 9", 175 lbs.

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What a waif!! Put some meat on them bones. It would explain your character and attitude. You're overcompensating for your lack of stature. Short Man Syndrome. Napoleon Complex. I bet Napoleon played chess. In fact, I know he did, and when he played he used living pieces that bled. Too bad you can't do the same.


Newquist said:
Whereas the character Steve worships the Corporation and his corpulence is symbolic of that,
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Given that fat people seem to have as much variety of taste and allegiance as thin people, I find your use of obesity as a LITERARY DEVICE to be jejune.

Corpulence is "symbolic" of eating more calories than one burns off. I think it's safe to say that your novel has about as much chance of being the next "Babbitt" as the sun has of going supernova tomorrow.

E.

Black men are always telling White women that they are too thin; that theey should be fatter, and they want them to have giant, egg-like protruding butts like black women have.

Just saying.

Q. said:

The short-form beatdown (which I am surprised has not already appeared) made famous by Mistified would comprise a brief sentence or two ending with "you are a FUCKTARD and a MORON."
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Yes, there's that, too!! :-)

E.

CN said:

What a waif!! Put some meat on them bones. It would explain your character and attitude. You're overcompensating for your lack of stature. Short Man Syndrome. Napoleon Complex. I bet Napoleon played chess. In fact, I know he did, and when he played he used living pieces that bled. Too bad you can't do the same.
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Are you really this stupid and sophomoric? Sorry. It's a rhetorical question.

E.

I agree. Too many commas will make it choppy and impede the flow. Like everything else, strategically placed moderation is the key. I must admit that I shy away from the colon and the semi-colon. I'm not sure why this is. In fact, I believe I unconsciously write to avoid its use, and only ever realize it after the fact. It's something I need to look into with greater introspective depth.

By the way, for anyone who is interested, I watched two excellent movies last night that still have a lingering impression on me. They are as follows:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119893/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100470/


CN said:
It cannot be taken seriously, or if you do, the only purpose it can serve is something to use besides Lunesta to get to sleep.
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Freud labelled this "projection". Nobody takes YOU seriously except Q. and if you see above he now has you as a "fucktard and a moron" with which I heartily agree. Perhaps instead of making the mistake of trying to reason with a fact-free debater, I should use Fabian's old methods and just call you scatological names. It seems not only appropriate but fair since that's about all you do to us.

Don't you get it, dummy? You think you're maiming our egos with your absurd screeds but we're having even more fun parodying you. I find you to be one of the easiest targets I've ever seen on CFN. At least fish in a barrel can swim.

E.

Corpulence is "symbolic" of eating more calories than one burns off.

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This is not a surprising comment coming from you. It's reflective of an person who is impaired with Asperger's Syndrome. Unfortunately, because of the rise of computers, and therefore programming, we have this deficiency breeding in large numbers. I don't think it's the way we should evolve, but it may just turn out that way. A world built by computers, rather than by hand.

Riddle me this. Someone comes to the comments section of a blog where the blog's author has repeatedly said the world of tomorrow, whenever that may be, will be a world built by hand, and yet this visitor has the temerity to brag that he has taught "ten thousand well" when all he has taught them is how to program a computer. How does teaching students programming fit into a world made by hand? It doesn't, and therefore, you have not taught them well.

CN said:
Is the following a male, or a female?
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Who cares?

E.

Who cares?

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Not me. Not anymore.

"To open our borders is an act of hatred against the American People. And if not motivated by hatred, it could only be motivated by extreme self interest and indifference to our well being."

If extreme self interest is hate against "the whole" then I would agree with you. But self-interest is more or less the economic philosophical foundations of the country.

I'm sure you recall that most of The Republicis devoted to refuting Thrasymachus' contention that extreme self interest is the way to go; the unjust argument,in other words. So a little self interest here, and a little there, interspersed with some high power types wielding the metaphorical equivalent of the Ring of Gyges, and the next thing you know "The Whole' is punctured.

And lets face it, the "Thrasymachus Model" is basically our model filtered through the likes of Payne et al. In other words, how could 'The Whole ever hope to survive the inevitable punctures that were built into the equation from the get-go?

So, I don't know about your use of "hate". You seem to be using after the fact, as if it is racially motivated and I'm not buying that line of reasoning.

"Is the following a male, or a female?

First your Black Male was showing too much.

Now your gay Black male is showing a bit much.

sounds like his [i]modus operandi[/i].
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E, to italicize you need to use (greater than) symbols as your brackets. Ditto for bolding, block quoting, etc.


Dummy, I taught math, too, but I guess you figure that's a peripheral art. I prepared people for a huge variety of possible futures.

No, I don't have Asperger's Syndrome but it shows that you're just reaching for any available insult that free associates into your unimaginative cranium. You're a venal femme who's disappointed because she hasn't achieved or gotten recognition. That's why you come here acting like a princess. It's a SHTICK. You're a PAUPER with lousy writing but the temerity to think you're a would-be author.

Sorry, we know you got your tiara at a pawn shop.

E.


Q., my use of [i] was an old habit from another blog where they replaced HTML angle brackets with []. Just a habit.

E.

The black male "Carol Newquist" and the black male "Buck's a Stud" (note the cocky name; think "the big dick meme" etc.) -- are an African-American tag team now trying desperately to create impressions of intelligence for one another.

What a downgrade to this board. Even all of "Carol's" attempts at grammar policing, alone. Enough please.

E, to italicize you need to use (greater than) symbols as your brackets. Ditto for bolding, block quoting, etc.
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Correction:

Amazing how the system will not allow the use of those symbols that point to the left and the right. I'm speaking of the symbols on the same keys with the comma and period. Use THEM as brackets.

BTW, the following is the Ring of Gyges argument from "The Republic":

Glaucon posits:

Suppose now that there were two such magic rings, and the just put on one of them and the unjust the other; no man can be imagined to be of such an iron nature that he would stand fast in justice. No man would keep his hands off what was not his own when he could safely take what he liked out of the market, or go into houses and lie with any one at his pleasure, or kill or release from prison whom he would, and in all respects be like a god among men.

Then the actions of the just would be as the actions of the unjust; they would both come at last to the same point. And this we may truly affirm to be a great proof that a man is just, not willingly or because he thinks that justice is any good to him individually, but of necessity, for wherever any one thinks that he can safely be unjust, there he is unjust.

For all men believe in their hearts that injustice is far more profitable to the individual than justice, and he who argues as I have been supposing, will say that they are right. If you could imagine any one obtaining this power of becoming invisible, and never doing any wrong or touching what was another's, he would be thought by the lookers-on to be a most wretched idiot, although they would praise him to one another's faces, and keep up appearances with one another from a fear that they too might suffer injustice.

— Plato's Republic, 360b-d (Jowett trans.)

Even all of "Carol's" attempts at grammar policing, alone.

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Using your unique rules of grammar, you should not have that comma.

Oh no. Here comes an MLK plagiarism fest for damage control.

I come here mainly to read Jim's article and the wonderful and brave posts of Janos. Didn't mean to get these two African Americans working overtime posting Smart Sounding Copy-Pastes.

It was unnecessary indeed, but not an error. I left it out initially, but wanted it for emphasizing the fact that your grammar policing, alone, is a downgrade of these threads not-to-mention your absurd pose as a White female, your agenda to attack good posters, and your colleague's copy-paste foisting of high fallootin' writings by philosophers.

It sounds as if you haven't read the entire thread of comments. If you had, you would have realized that Janos makes reference to Plato quite frequently. So my response was specifically pointed to him...and the Plato copy/paste was only to add some context to my response and dialogue with Janos.

But now you express remorse for the state of the dialogue after interjecting your snotty, rude commentary?

Actually, it would be quite interesting to read your take on a relevant topic, beyond the drive-by gutter-snipping that suggests you are more "Ghetto" and "Gangsta' like in spirit than those you accuse of being "African-American".

And I imagine Janos is cringing about now, after reading your derisive comment about "high fallootin" philosophers. Just a little advice Jules for whatever its worth: Janos doesn't need a boot-licking sycophant cheering from the monkey cage .

I must admit that I shy away from the colon
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Yeah, me too, ever since our former Governor, Jim McGreevey fessed up to being a fudge packer.

;o) I couldn't resist.


A full summary of "Carol Newquist". Whoever (or whatever) "she" is, these people are a dime a dozen in San Francisco, Berkeley, Santa Cruz, Boulder, and Santa Fe. They group up into their little CLAQUES and congratulate each other for not "buying into the system".

Actually, the emotion of ENVY haunts them because they are invariably nonentities, even in the artistic worlds they inhabit. They could never make it in anybody's "system" and so they group together to try to heal their macerated egos by affirming the "greatness" of one another.

E.

You know E, that sounds like the makings for an interesting and hilarious novel. I have a request: gives us an opening paragraph, if, for nothing else, to show us how its done. After all, criticism without correction/demonstration is pretty empty and mean.

And since you self describe as an "aesthete" I am sure you can deliver the goods. Besides, it's so post-modern cliche to be a slicing critic when one can't deliver the goods they so expertly critique. And we all now how you feel about post-modern culture.

What do you say E?

Ha!! That's the risk you run when you live in proximity to Hershey. It's just up the highway from New Joyzee.

"than those you accuse of being "African-American".

So is "African American" an insult already? What's the next term gonna be? As an insider, maybe you know.

And I imagine Janos is cringing about now, after reading your derisive comment about "high fallootin" philosophers.

Janos speaks offhand and with ease when referencing philosophy. A different thing than copy-pastes and long word-dumps that reach for every arcane term possibly rather than seeming a part of any conversational flow. I'm talking about you.

Janos doesn't need a boot-licking sycophant cheering from the monkey cage.

Useless trick. He gets attacked a lot here; some posts the other way are in order. Good White Men are happy to defend one another, and to praise.

Why are you reaching for the word "monkey" all of the sudden. I suppose you thought you needed to touch upon it preemptively. No need. I am not rude to negroes. I think it's not very nice.

Now, your friend lusting over a bloody genocide of Whites while pretending to be a White
European female, or visualizing the battlefield as a place where he could copulate with White women -- that's not nice at all.

"It's just up the highway from New Joyzee.

Says the "white English lady from the U.K."

The new American pastimes: Skeet shooting and drone executions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGXecV6OlJs

"...share the duties not just the privledges of equality..." -janos, on drafting females-

JS, is that a riff on Jesus?
He knows how to spell privilege, I suspect.

Anyway, I agree with you, more or less, concerning women in combat and drafting women. The US couldn't even hold the draft together for Vietnam, once the reality of that war hit the middle/upper class consciousness. Too many deferrals, too much politics, too easy to escape into the National Guard.

(Has anyone other than me wondered if BushII shat upon the National Guard so badly - in some sort of subconscious desire to boost his OWN manhood and his own "military" "service?")

So, no JS, this business of "women in combat" is a simpleminded extrapolation from the dual drivers of an "all-volunteer military," and the (relatively) low-risk nature of present day US military operations.

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On another issue, JC, you do have a skewed view of women - and it stems from a profound negativity in your heart, or somewhere.

"Equally, we must realize that nobility is virtually non-existent in the fairer sex. They will avoid any and all duties and unpleasantness if they can get away with it."

JS, you're never going to get a date with an attitude like this, man. ;0)

I think I have stirred up a hornet's nest. The niggling pedant was MY shtick and MY shtick alone for 4+ years and now all hell has broke(n?) loose.

Let me add two more of my cents regarding punctuation. It is as much art as it is science. I've tried to limit my published quibbles to instances where, say, a comma was definitely needed (like those last two I just used). As some of you have already noted, it's all about creating pauses. Sometimes I feel a pause needs to be longer than a comma suggests and I will use 2 or 3 dots for this... ya know what I mean? I usually use a colon if I am going to follow it with an enumeration of two or more things. I don't understand the semi-colon at all and almost never use one.

I notice that in my own writing I tend to over-use commas and other punctuation to avoid potential criticism from commenters here who would like nothing better than an opportunity to get back at me for being such a pain-in-the-ass all these years. Simultaneously, I notice that people who write really well avoid excessive punctuation. They also avoid the unnecessary use of the word "that" (the bolded one above could be eliminated without harm to meaning) and "of." (I can't think of an example right now but will point one out when I encounter it.)

"...that irony is that the same military that forced my mother and father to pay tribute to it via their hard-earned income so knobs like CD could float...." -Cluster Nation, aka "carol"-

"Carol," you just dropped another big clue.

You've never paid taxes.
Is that because you are so young?
Or because you are so useless?

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And - someone must say - it goes without saying that if the cold war had ever gone "hot," that ComradeD would have likely gotten his ass incinerated in a big hurry, out there in the Atlantic.

Probably incinerated AT LEAST 30 minutes ahead of the rest of us civilians (which I was, at that time) on the mainland US. hahohe!

And - someone must say - it goes without saying (that*) if the cold war had ever gone "hot," (that*) ComradeD would have likely gotten his ass incinerated in a big hurry, out there in the Atlantic.

*Very interesting, K/Q.
I'll have to work on doing less of *.

Janos: "Equally, we must realize that nobility is virtually non-existent in the fairer sex."

p4c: "you do have a skewed view of women - and it stems from a profound negativity in your heart, or somewhere."

It was the view of Buddha. And a few others. Have you ever married?

In the past she, in her role as receptacle, was carrying a lot of male-seeded virtue of the ages. Kind of like a passive solar heating element hangs onto heat after a warm day, to hold it some through a cold night.

But when he is unvirtuous, she becomes triply unvirtuous. When he becomes virtuous, she becomes virtuous. My view is that She is receptacle-like and follows the male. Notice how young women now MUST schlepp about uselessly with 4-foot long skateboards and let their pants sag. etc.

After they both finally become virtuous, Woman tends to lean away from virtue a bit. She must, ever, be shown virtue by him.

Every snut creates at least 10-20 sluts. Etc. Man must lead. But that in itself speaks to the fact that she is eminently corruptible.

He's basically right.

The thrashing you're administering to Newquist is one she brought on herself. But in the name of fairness (and to exercise my tendency to grammatical pedantry) I'm going to correct one of your corrections.

"Perhaps it's your inability as an unsophisticated reader to use it as a cue for the aforementioned, but, of course, you'd never admit to that."

You call this a run-on sentence. It isn't. It's a compound sentence in which each of the independent clauses is joined by the co-ordinating conjunction "but." Moreover, to make each clause a separate sentence would weaken the intended close connection between the first clause and the second.

The comma after "aforementioned" can go; three commas in quick succession make the sentence fussy. The commas that mark off "of course" are there to mark a pause. It's best that they remain.

The run-on sentence makes me cringe as much as it would any other grammar maniac. But to say that a sentence runs-on when it doesn't is to commit grammatical libel. Those who hate the idea that a language is generally improved by the use of its rules already have enough people on their side. Overall, though, Newquist does use too many commas.

Eleuthero wins this week's best comeback award. You are a cool one, my friend.

Yes. Most of what you said I agree with. (It certainly can be called a run-on sentence.)

Anyway, every prig poser attracts a genuine prig. Or maybe two in this case.

Too many commas -- partly in the attempt to be clear or from a lack of confidence about clarity -- is both an amateur trait and the trait of one attempting to appear, shall we say, punctilious. (Educated.)

But I'd rather talk about more interesting issues, and I have always known when a typo or misspelling by Vlad/Voda/Janos was nothing but those. To pounce on them as asinine and a cheap trick by unworthy opponents.


Julian Curtis Lee writes:

" A different thing than copy-pastes and long word-dumps that reach for every arcane term possibly rather than seeming a part of any conversational flow."

"Possibly rather than seeming"...don't go out on any limbs there Jules; you might see your own shadow,fall down and go boom-boom.What a limp wristed bit of writing that was sweetheart...

But on to the real point.

You obviously haven't read much philosophy if you think I use "...long word-dumps that reach for every arcane term..." I don't and go read Kant if you need further evidence to contradict your false observation.

"Why are you so mean-spirited? You sure are a thorny rose. (Flirt line)

It's you and your friends here who are no "good" at verbal games. With few exceptions, you are a platoon of dullards, repeating the same tropes over and over again, ad nauseum...

...You need to get out and about more, and intermingle. Open yourself to the diverse universe that surrounds us all. Let the light in,

but also, don't be afraid to embrace the darkness. Yes, every rose has its thorns, but don't let your plentiful thorns obscure the potential beauty you have to offer."

Above:

The "European lady" (English?), who is really a Black American male, flirts with a female on the board who he assumes is White.

Now read his lines again. Do you really think all this effort and cajoling would come from a "European woman" to another woman?

Yes, it is possible just to follow one's self interest and trample people calmly. But few are capable of it. The old saying that we always hate those whom we have wronged is the usual case.

Kindness to another often causes a flare up up in their ego. They can't abide being in someone's debt. Of course this is different than the parasite who feels no debt whatsoever.

Wonderful, young buck. You found one of my typos. (I usually have one in every post, just to give you something to do.) What a clever fellow!

Now we have two blacks posting on this board whose chief occupation is spotting typos to give themselves some kind of boost.

Enough...this is too hilarious!
In such troubled times, wars all over the world.

I dunno if you have read all the posts of the last 12 days, if so you read CN [new RI] posting
...get this....how attractive Roseanne Barr is.

I doubt Buck is Black. I dont know too many Black males that do TaiChi.
What difference does it make?

There is nothing really big ('wars all over the world'). It's all projected from your little body.

And nothing small. The war taking place here on these kunstlerthreads is the war that interests me.

And I would like to see, on behalf of myself and others, typo maids, bad 'White Women' actors, and digression masters-with-a-chip scatter to the outer darkness every few hour or so, perhaps for some Watermelon lean. Thus we might hear the storytellers around this little fire and actual posting could proceed.

So is everyone still confused as to why Adolf Kramps whuz grading messages as "F", "D" or ? No? *GOOD*.

Otherwise, those pages of distractionary discussion would be no more than ?!...

"I doubt Buck is Black. I dont know too many Black males that do TaiChi.

1) There are plenty of blacks, especially in the "hip" urban areas, who mess with such. 2) He of course would have said such a thing (and other things) to set up his disinfo persona to throw you off.

What difference does it make?

Question of the typical obedient moderne.

Well, to use a little black talk, it let's you know where they're coming from. Esp. when racial subjects are at hand. Further, if a poster is being deliberately deceptive, it sheds further light on their moral authority as posters.

So you think it is contentless if a poster sets himself up as a "white woman" then makes lots of searing anti-white and anti-American statements? Do you think that would be strategy-less on his part, in terms of the impression it creates?

Or let me ask you something else: If a poster here had grown up in Tibet and was posting from Shanghai, would that fact have no meaning or even interest or meaning for you?

Notwithstanding what your teachers have apparently taught you, All Things are not, in fact, meaningless.

Well said and yes, thank you for your support. Whites should back each other up - all other things being equal of course. As Rabbi Hillel said, If I'm not for me, who will be? More and more Whites will come to realize this once they've realized we've lost our Civilization. And it goes far beyond just the United States. We're going to be in the Wilderness for decades if not Centuries so we better start banding together. Start in the cyber world and then take it "state side".

Yes, men are born to lead and women follow. If men become incapable of leading, then women wont. So this may be our fault in some ways. In any case, we could of said no to the Temptations offered us but we did not.

Buddha did yield to Annanda's plea on behalf of women that they be allowed to join the Sangha. And He admitted that of course they did have Buddha Nature - just like all other beings. And that yes, they could attain it just as Men did though it would be rare indeed. But he said because of admitting them, the Sangha would not lost as long.

All of this is anathema to West Coast Buddhists. There is a funny passage where Ken Wilber waxes bitter on the Dalai Lama's rejection of anal sex. Funny and sad. The things these people get upset about! - and the things they don't get upset about, little things like the death of the White Race.

I agree with Julian's general extrapolation of my words. But I'll expand a bit and offer a caveat. Have you not noticed the incredible amount of energy women put into looking good to others? Imagine if that all went into acually being good! Our whole culture is like this now. Janet Reno didn't go into the office during the Waco Crisis: she didn't want people to think there was a crisis. Management of perception is often an effective strategy. Sun Tzu says deception is war. And of course it exists in Nature. But conscious beings should know when they're doing it and why. Otherwise it's is Hobbe's war of all against all. Imagine dating a hot chick, marrying her, and then she has no interest in sex anymore. She has you now and it was all an act. The sweats come on as do the lbs...

As I have often said, Nature compensates women by giving them reserves of endurance and heroism in the function of Motherhood. This deserves our deepest respect which I gladly give when the duty is fufilled. And good women extend this nurturance to other children - as the teachers at Newtowne showed. To die defending the children of others is noble - so I was wrong there. Thus their virtue exceeds Nature and is their's alone. The problem comes later when the children begin to devlop their individualities and don't need nurturing in the same way. It's time to let go and women teachers (90%+) begin to resent the boys for being more difficult and for not being young ladies. It's then time for the boys to be taught by men.

We have to go back to when women were controlled by shame. They have little guilt after all. That's how to stop single motherhood. Change the divorce laws to stop enticing women to destroy men. Tempt not the weaker vessels.

"Well said and yes, thank you for your support. Whites should back each other up - all other things being equal of course."

I have enjoyed your posts here for a long time. It's the work of a Life. Speaking to the above, I have noticed you talking about an aspect of the culture of the White working class in which they mock each other and tear each other down. (Whereas the higher classes may be different.) Don't know if it was something you read or your own observation, but it really rang true for me. Sheesh, how awful my male peers were with each other (and me) growing up.

By contrast, sometimes in Portland on Saturdays there will be a little gaggle of Jews in one of the booths of a favorite coffee shops. It is after synagogue, apparently, and they have come to talk Jewish religion, talk Torah. There will be one who seems a leader. But I have had to observe, to my chagrin, a particular quality: Nobody mocks anybody. Nobody rudely contradicts anybody. Nobody talks down to anybody, or tears anybody down. Respect.

I have tried to think whether I've seen a similar scene in all my days with White men discussing the Bible. I have to say I haven't. All such discussions have involved one guy (the "right one," the evangelist) talking down to others, browbeating them maybe, with "the truth" etc. Not a respectful discussion.

(Another Bad Sign was seeing the frank courtship talk that goes on between Muslim men and Muslim women in these Portland coffee shops. They talk Turkey about marriage. Everything out on the table with family dreams front and center -- and this from the men. You never hear White men and women go through this kind of vital courtship ritual.)

Among all the serious troubles we have, there is that one: White -- White men -- need to develop the same attitude of respect and non-confrontational talk that these young Jewish men show to each other.

I respect your posting. It's also entertaining.

By the way, James K. is one of my favorite writers. One of the most magical moments of my life was reading his "Home from Nowhere" on a seldom-taken airline flight from California to Iowa. I learn a new word every time I read Kunstler. Sometimes I wonder if he really Cares about the mitigation of carhell or whether it's just a way to make fun of Gentiles, you know. But everything he says about the United States of Carsinomica is right, and what I was thinking by age 16.

Jim has his Career Ruler (10th House Ruler) in the 12th house. Thus it is that his true desire and calling is as an artist (note his involvement with music), and in creating beauty. The 12th house is the house of fine art, and of rarefied, untouched, and beautiful places. So I could say that his passion is to help rarefied, beautiful places be part of the human experience. His real passion is beauty. That's my take as an astrologer. Then because he is Scorpio Rising he is very blunt. Because the ruler (Pluto) sits at the top of the chart, fame has always been heavy on his mind -- his own or that of others. Scorpio-Rising-ruled-from-10th also gives a lot of ambition to remake the world.

I am a big fan of Jim's, even though I would be described, I guess, as generally 'anti-semitic' by now.


Buck,

Nice try but you failed to taunt me into a response. I've written a huge volume of posts here on CFN over the years such that any REASONABLE person ought to be able to ascertain that I'm literate, I have a large fact base, and I'm going to use that fact base to support my arguments even if they reach conclusions that people don't like.

I'm not your circus chimp so I don't owe you a "paragraph" of ANYTHING. You're lucky I even dignified your taunt with a response. Nice ruse ... trying to appear supportive of my war of words with Carol. There is no love lost between you and I.

E.


Well, Julian, the truth is that dogs don't like cats, cats don't like rodents, and lions don't like gazelles. Tribal mistrust and disdain is as old as cavemen. It's quite rational that you enjoy JIm's writing yet you may well distrust his TRIBE at the same time. And his tribe doesn't trust the goyim. That's what's missing from ALL dialog on racism/ethnocentrism i.e., that the "oppressed" tribes are just as racist as everyone else.

However, social life is where a rational person gets to display his respect for the idiosyncrasies of the sovereign individual, whatever his tribe. Only liberals like Carol and Buck seem unable to wrap their heads around the idea that one can actually have fast friendships with people from ethnicities that they have trouble with AS A WHOLE.

A refined individual, especially a true, old guard conservative, respects the sovereign above all else. It's one of the things which made America utterly unique in the Colonial Era. In a sense, every person is an "exception to a rule" and these facets of a person make them distinct and interesting.

When Janos, myself, Vlad, or anybody else writes about our problems with the TRIBAL (not INDIVIDUAL) behavior of any group, we are not talking about the smallest unit of that group: The individual. I, personally, have become disconsolate about the low-brow, "ghetto-ey" behavior of young whites with their prison chic garb and "muhfuggah" speaking style. Disconsolate because they are my people and I hate to see my people taking a path proven to lead to no good end.

However, the knee-jerk nature of modern, Orwellian liberalism tends to close off speech and to try to remove all nuance from the positions others take on difficult subjects. Thus, to people like Carol, we're either good guys or Nazis, lambs or beasts, oppressors or victims. There are no half measures. Yet REAL people are almost NEVER that cut and dried.

I enjoy your writing and that of Janos. It's nice to see good, and brave, rhetoric.

E.

Good show. I like some of Buck's stuff, but making these little requests is one of his insufferable qualities. He's always demanding proof of of my racial views. I send him some and that's the end of it. He never gives the least sign that's he has read any of it. A few months ago I sent him an abbreviated pdf version of Phillipe Rushton's classic on Race and Evolution -a small book in other words. Nuthin but crickets.

Yes, I mourn the dying of the Western Civilization. It's bitter indeed to know that we wont see the end of this or a Renaissance in our life time. And in truth, I never saw America at its best. It was aleady decaying fast during my youth. How wonderful it must be to live in real Culture!

I watched the Orthodox Jews coming out of Temple on the Sabbath. The men walked slowly like Lions. They had no place to go - no place they would rather be. They were Home - at the Center of their own Live and Univese. How different from Christians coming out of church hurrying to the parking lot. They have a million different things to do and places to go. We are defined not just by what we do but by we don't do. The limitations Orthodoxy puts on its adherents creates power.

What do you think of Kali Yuga? Sri Yukteshwar said the Vedic Astrologers made a mistake in the Middle Ages and made the Yugas far too long. The Orthodox point of view says things are going to get worse for another 420,000 years. Yukteshwar seemed to think we were coming out of it. I don't know - 420,000 years seems too long. On the other hand, things are not getting better. The New Age Movement is cracked. I like the Neo- traditionalists like Guenon. Most of them ended up becoming Sufis. The feel the End of this Age is near - and the end of "this humanity". Sure there will be a Renewal - but that's after most of the living are no longer. Mohammad said two signs of the Hour would be very tall buildings and the two sexes becoming confused, wearing each others clothes. The descriptions of Kali Yuga also fit - I just don't think the degeneration can last for such a long time.

Are you saying that she is a fucktard and a moron?

I've been going thru this thread on a snowy Saturday morning E5, and it looks like this 'Carol Newquist', aka 'Asoka, as well as a few other appellations, is getting under your skin. My advice is don't waste your time on what amounts to nothing more than a trifling distraction.

This dude is the consummate Ballbuster and provocateur. His role here is distinctly to get under your skin and piss you off. Ask Rhino and P2C about that.

==CD

Is the penny worth more than a dollar?

It has been suggested yet again that the US mint will stop producing pennies as it is more expensive to produce than their worth.

So in this era of currency wars (before the great military war) and the race to the lowest common denominator--literally, can we conclude that the petro-dollar based on fecal matter in Gwar is worth less than the penny made of copper?

I'm referring to an article on the Oil Drum I came across last year reviewing a book, Hubbert's Peak by Ken Deffeyes:

[Most massive and nonporous limestones contain textures made by invertebrate animals that ingest sediment and turn out fecal pellets. Usually, the pellets get squished into the mud. Rarely do the fecal pellets themselves form a porous sedimentary rock. In the 1970s, the first native-born Saudi to earn a doctorate in petroleum geology arrived for a year of work at Princeton.

...A small part of the reservoir was dolomite, but most of it turned out to be a fecal-pellet limestone. 
I had to go home that evening and explain to my family that the reservoir rock in the world’s biggest oil field was made of shit.]

While you folks are arguing about race and such, just want to interject that the meteors and astroids don't give a shit (now that we're on the subject) about whether your genes hail from Northern Europe or the Congo.

Oh, and how long do think the greenback is going to continue to be the fiat currency when the great unwinding is over.

Do check out Paul Craig Roberts today and see again how unimportant the right left jab fest is. Oh yeah, I see the blood and sweat flying on this site, but at the end of the day all of you are wasting your time on your own vanities.

BTW I don't think CN is Asoka, since (her) syntax is different. I see writing styles as identifiers and I just don't see the similarity. Some ideas may be the same.

However, I recognized Vlad's style immediately.

I said to myself, Good gracious, it's Vladdie!

While we're on the subject of currency:

http://www.hangthebankers.com/precious-metal-distributors-enemies-of-the-state/

Here's another lovely post on

Maxkeiser.com
[KR406] Keiser Report: Horsemeat Burger vs Dutch Sandwich

It has been said that the mind (reason, intellect, theory, doubt) can be a good servant but makes a terrible master. Here's a good explanation why:

As contrasted with the method of the mind -- which has its
foundation in sensations and proceeds through inference and
proofs to conclusions -- there is the more direct method of
the heart. The heart intuitively grasps the values that are
progressively realized in the life of an individual as he
goes through the diverse experiences of the world, and as
his attention is centered on arriving at spiritual
understanding. In the life of most persons the mind and the
heart are at loggerheads, and the conflict between the two
creates confusion.

The heart, which in its own way feels the unity of life,
wants to fulfill itself through a life of love, sacrifice,
and service. It is keen about giving instead of taking. It
derives its driving power from the inmost spiritual urge,
expressing itself through the immediate intuitions of the
inner life. It does not care about the proofs or
intellectual corroborations that the mind seeks while
dealing with material objects.

In its objective handling of the material world, mind is
saturated with experiences of multiplicity and separateness
and therefore feeds the egocentric tendencies that divide
humanity and make it selfish and possessive. But the heart,
feeling in its inner experiences the glow of love, has
glimpses of the unity of the spirit and thus seeks
expression through self-giving tendencies that unite
humanity and make it selfless and generous. Therefore, there
is necessarily a conflict between the inner voice and the
deliverances of the intellect, which are based upon the
apparent and superficial aspects of life.

When the mind encroaches upon the province of the heart, it
does so by requiring assurance or conviction as a precedent
condition that must be fulfilled before there is a release
of love. But love is nothing if it is not spontaneous. It
cannot be a conclusion of reasoning. It is not a fruit of
the spirit of bargaining. If you want to be certain about
the object of love before giving your love, it is only a
form of calculating selfishness.
--Meher Baba

DISCOURSES, 7th ed, p. 95
Copyright 1987 AMBPPCT

Ibendet, that Oil Drum site, you gotta be a Physicist to figure the damn thing out.

Which is probably why, except for a select few, nobody refers to it and we go off into these tangents about race, religion and politics each week. JHK must get a good laugh out of this comments section he sponsors.

==CD

Either amused or embarrassed.

I would say it's a mixed bag.

I would also say that I tried recommending this site to interested people in the past and uh, shall we say, they passed.

I do try to refocus some of this blog to look at ideas pertinent to the raison d'être of this site.

"There is a very profound truth in the Greek sophisms proving that it is impossible to learn. We understand little and badly. We need to be taught by those who understand more and better than ourselves. For example, by Christ. But since we do not understand anything we do not understand them either. How could we know they are right? How could we pay them the proper amount of attention, to begin with, which is necessary before they can begin to teach us? That is why miracles are needed." --Simone Weil

Could it be that "miracles" serve to turn one away from listening (in the sense of obeying) to the voice of the mind, and listen to the voice of the heart?


Jules writes:

"Then because he is Scorpio Rising he is very blunt."

That’s a fun post. I enjoy astrology for the sake of amusement every now and then but let’s face facts: it’s basically bullshit. For one, all of the legitimate studies basically conclude that astrology is no better than chance when it comes to predictions, assessing personal character, blah,blah, blah. Furthermore, there is very little consensus among the top astrologers themselves. And even more cofounding (dare I say irrational?) is what school of astrology to implement. The Sidereal (the Vedic chart uses the Sidereal method) denounces the Tropical method as an outdated, generic and false model while the tropical school counters with their own brand of bias and propaganda.

All of that aside, I do have one question for you: how do you know Jim is a Scorpio rising? Because as I understand it(from my very limited knowledge on the subject) you would have to know his time of birth? Jules dear?

"I enjoy astrology for the sake of amusement every now and then but let’s face facts: it’s basically bullshit.

You have never studied astrology. Thus your opining about it is the bullshit.

In web searching 'Semitic' the web is much more concerned with offering me [bogus] descriptions of
'anti semitic'!

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Semitic+people

Democracy and the male physique.

A two minute walk from where I live there's a major intersection. A stone's throw from this intersection are three gyms. In these gyms, right now, dozens of men are working out with weights. Some are trying to get or stay fit and/or strong. Others are more ambitious. They want to transform an aesthetically mediocre physique into an aesthetically superior one. Can't be done.

A well built man is well built because of bone, not muscle.

Weight-work in a gym can alter the size and shape of muscle. Everyone knows this. Yet many physique-conscious men seem not to understand that working out with weights cannot make a well formed physique out of a ill formed one. Weight-work can't do this because it can't alter bone. A good physique isn't made. It's inherited. Many of those who haven't cottoned onto this simple and obvious idea have not done so because they've gobbled whole the codswallop idea that anyone at all can get anything at all if only they have will to work for it. Democracy's victims.


Janos said:
The feel the End of this Age is near - and the end of "this humanity". Sure there will be a Renewal - but that's after most of the living are no longer. Mohammad said two signs of the Hour would be very tall buildings and the two sexes becoming confused, wearing each others clothes. The descriptions of Kali Yuga also fit - I just don't think the degeneration can last for such a long time.
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Humanity has gone through several "keyholes" where 50-90% just don't come out the other side. Sometimes diseases like the plague do us in. Sometimes a fatal meteorite. Sometimes an Ice Age. This, however, might be the first time the human race gets winnowed down because of large, systemic failure having to do with some contributions from resource availability problems and social decay problems that exacerbate those resource problems.

When one examples fields of human intellectual endeavor, in some sense they're ALL decaying. Physics is bogged down in String Theory which has no testable ideas. Biology has a love affair with genomics which, we thought, would cure almost all human illness in short order. The reality is that we have companies like Dendreon whose product extends terminal prostate cancer victim's live for another FOUR MONTHS. We also have "Frankenfoods" which, when fed to rats, give them kidneys 70% too large or livers 70% too small. Literature is now a bunch of narcissistic blithering ... there are no Shakespeares or Faulkners or Yeats or Blakes or Dickens anywhere to be seen. Wide literacy has given way to "peevish specialism" where people are savants in a micro-subject and idiots in almost everything else.

I don't much care how long a "Yuga" is because the evidence of my senses and of the senses of those other observers I call my friends tells me that we are not in a good "Yuga". However, as a sheer speculation, I would suggest that humanity's "darkness" has grown, little by little, since men like Bach lived. Even in the Romantic century, music started to suffer when mass appeal became the object. We were much better off when artists and writers did NOT try to appease the rabble.

E.

http://takimag.com/article/a_dozen_unlikely_assholes_gavin_mcinnes/print#axzz2L2XbjVQK

as in:

" As an untenured instructor (making me highly qualified to be President of the U.S. - at least it does until the end of 2018...) at a state university, I can say that without a doubt that the most annoying people in the world are tenured profs.

The further from actual hard science they are the more annoying they are (fine arts dept. being another animal all together - they are so sadly unemployable outside academia that they are pitiable) the more insufferable they are. Womens', AfricanAmerican or kweer (I'm not typing all this out and having it "moderated") studies are even more unemployable than your average ceramics major. They know more that is wrong than anyone.

The Womens' studies believe that they are being oppressed in this country (never a word about the cuckoo for cocoa puffs Muslim countries and ACTUAL oppression), yet all the profs. are tenured and do NOTHING that can be regarded as academically rigorous even by the loosest interpretation. The only women they admire are lesbians or at least man-haters of a degree that surely qualifies as a hate-crime (at least by the LETTER of the law).
All I can say is it must be terrible to be oppressed in such a manner - attempting to destroy the basis that allows your highly paid, guaranteed employment.
The Kweer Studies are for the most part the ANGRY wing of the womens' studies dept. To them, every problem in the worlds' history is a result of homophobia - including Greek pedophilia. Creepy, creepy creep "people" (for lack of a better term).

AA or BlackStudies is about what you'd expect. Think a Malcolm X attitude when he has hemorrhoids. Not a happy camper. And being in South Dakota, they are all white. A special bunch of self-loathing individuals. Needless to say, all problems to them are the direct result of racism. Everything from African colonialism to LIBOR rigging, it is all racism. The best thing about them? They are thought to be absolutely batshit crazy by the native African students. That gives me some hope.
Many professors are simply terrible teachers to boot. They know their subject, sure, but that doesn't mean they know how to teach. Their TAs wind up doing the lion's share of the work. Furthermore, I can't even count how many times I was released early from class! At one point I remember thinking "This is costing me $2.20 a minute and we're being let out an hour early because you don't feel like doing your job today?" Oh, the Humanities

All of my professors outside the business department (those that had or had had careers outside teaching) were complete zeros. The worst being in the Philosophy and, of course, the Economics departments."


CD said:

This dude is the consummate Ballbuster and provocateur. His role here is distinctly to get under your skin and piss you off. Ask Rhino and P2C about that.
************************************************************

Not to worry, CD. Until "Asoka" just up and disappeared, in recent months I've only come back once every couple of weeks just to bust HIS balls. I've been on this site for many years. Perhaps you're relatively new and didn't know that.

As for "Carol", it is of little interest to me whether or not "Carol" is, in fact, Asoka. I actually enjoy not giving "Carol" a moment's rest. I came back with a vengeance recently mainly to be the "immovable object" to what she thought was her "irresistible force". It's actually spiritually good for people like "Carol" to encounter a person who doesn't give them one square inch of room for uncontested bullshit. When she responds, I come back and patiently contest every iota of nonsense "she" purports to be truth.

Now that I've come back, I see that there are actually some literate, interesting newbies like yourself who've arrived or emerged from lurker mode. It's a darned sight better now on CFN that it's been in the last 18 months or so when Asoka was writing 20-40 posts a day and dominating the board.

Personally, I do NOT think "Carol" is Asoka. If she was, she'd be making 20-40 posts per day and her average appears to be about five or six. Just my two cents.

E.


Interesting post about the Penny, BT. I don't think "Carol" is Asoka either ... wrong frequency of posting and way different style of writing. I agree with you.

I agree with you about the left/right "jab fest" being irrelevant while the government and police only care about saving their plutocratic backers and cronies regardless of their purported "ism". However, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss our "vanities". After all, BT, you post here and I doubt that you're going to "change" the corruption of international bankers or right a thousand social wrongs.

You're just like the rest of us ... watching the Titanic going down and rueing the day but ... not really able to change the day's outcome. We're all feckless when it comes to preventing THIS ship from going down, even you.


E.

Are you saying that she is a fucktard and a moron?
===========

No, not at all. I think my post was very clear that Mistified would likely say "she" was a fucktard and a moron. For one thing their worldviews are poles apart. For another, Carol is deliberately abrasive.


Thanks for the kudos, SJM. I don't know how long I'll be back for but it's been pure rhetorical fun to deal with the unfettered, narcissistic, factless emotional blithering of "Carol" ... whoever she is.

With Asoka gone, the place has become more habitable.

E.

"Yes, I mourn the dying of the Western Civilization.

Maybe we need to start crying in the streets. Plus singing? The street is, after all, a good place. Or used to be.

...I never saw America at its best. It was already decaying fast during my youth. How wonderful it must be to live in real Culture!

I was born in 1957, but it was early enough to be able to feel, in the period prior to 1963, the "difference." You don't know much that young, but you feel a lot. You could "smell" the 50's. There was a quiet in the air. You'd smell food wafting from windows. Oh, the motherly teenage women. You'd fall everywhere you looked.

And not many people were driving yet.

In my mind the big change was marked by the onset of the Beatles. And not just the Beatles, but the later curdling of the Beatles themselves. Sort of like Petula Clark's "Downtown" marked an efflorescence of that prior state.

But a huge aspect of it was that in the prior state, people walked. Young men would walk to college and smile at the children of their race. As the old state died there were more cars; you non longer saw who was passing through or could interact with them. A great deal of loss has been created by White men themselves, imo, with their Delusion of Technological Progress (destroying their culture with ceaseless invention). This is all explained, of course, by Dr. Seuss (a wonderful Jew) in "The Cat in the Hat Comes Back." "McCrephy's field" should be read afterward to complete the lesson (and as solace plus spiritual relief from his artwork and rhymes).

"I watched the Orthodox Jews coming out of Temple on the Sabbath. The men walked slowly like Lions. They had no place to go - no place they would rather be. They were Home - at the Center of their own Live and Universe. How different from Christians coming out of church hurrying to the parking lot.

Wonderful observation. I think it is an abomination to drive to church, and uglier to place a parking lot next to a church. In England now you can find quaint and historic old stone churches where they have removed all the green grass and trees that once surrounded it and replaced it with asphalt parking lot! Even England! In comprehensible. This with a saddhu avatar who advocated hunter-gatherer simplicity with statements like His "consider the lilies of the field"!

I notice that delis and coffee shops favored by Jews often feature closely placed seats. You can see crowds of Jews sitting close together in elbow to elbow. I'm talking right on my street. I have sometimes mused that an ingredient in the rise of Jewish power is nothing other than Pedestrian New York.

With the automobile we create fracturing and distance. In somewhere like Manhattan, people have walked and human interaction continued on. The white man no longer networks in his carhells. Just a random thought. But I always choose a town or neighborhood where humans can be seen out on the sidewalk. Because it makes me feel human. Utterly tragic what they did to Ventura, California. Though he may not care for this view, in a way Kunstler is one of the few cases where I see a genuine Jewish evangelist-unto-Gentiles, having something to offer, and trying to save them.

"What do you think of Kali Yuga?"

I am a fan of the revisionist view that we are at the bottom of Kali Yuga now. My Lord, Yukteswar's view is too negative. How much worse can it get? When you look at the predictions about the nadir of the Kali Yuga, things are already worse that those rishis could imagine. Never even mind things that seemed extreme in the minds of the rishis like forgetting your parents or intercourse sans marriage. Could things get any darker? White women are even putting tattoos all over their bodies (even their faces), the young white men in my town are even going African and destroying their earlobes. Next it will be their noses, etc. Bones through the nose will be next. Lip-stretching disks can't be far behind. They even have a Jew-begotten "Amateur Porn Festival" in my town to utterly destroy the young. Funny how race-mixing and porn always go hand-in-hand together.

I run the site KaliYuga.info should anybody want handy references.

"Mohammad said two signs of the Hour would be very tall buildings and the two sexes becoming confused, wearing each others clothes.

Hah! Did he? I think the Muslims are going to have their day. They seem to be the ones with the most cultural health. You have young white women here who a few months ago were all punked out now going Muslim and wearing veils. All because of the power of male brotherhood. Only when White men get back the "Beatles Effect" -- will they be able to turn the tide. (Male brotherhood.) It is powerfully attractive to the female, and we don't have it any more. Why did the women scream? Because "men in harmony" means: 1) We will have a successful harvest, 2) We will have a successful hunt, 3) We will repel the enemy, 4) We will make it through the winter, thus 5) We can make babies.

"I just don't think the degeneration can last for such a long time.

I feel the same. Possibly it will be the Ice Age that really saves us. You'll see the natural significance of the male again, with women set aright. Likely even harems will form around strong alpha males and male brotherhoods because -- they can get the food. Certainly this situation is more common in the great span of time than the situation now.

Walking Towns! Let's be European again. That's what Kunstler is always saying, in a way. He's trying to save Europe.

Jules writes:

"You have never studied astrology. Thus your opining about it is the bullshit."

Um,I've studied enough astrology to know that a rising sign can't be determined unless one knows the time of birth. Therefore, you must know JHK's time of birth.

Or did you just make it all up Jules? And if you did make it up, what a rude, disrespectful thing to do to a host you profess to admire.

So once again, Jules, do you know JHK's time of birth? ...or did you make it up?

(any further dodges or deflections by Jules is a firm answer for the latter.)


Lucky,

As a former educational "insider", I enjoyed your diatribe about academia. I lived it every day, brother, and all I can say is "amen". However, I also include BUSINESS departments as useless with the sole exception of ACCOUNTING. What does one learn in a course about, say, "Advertising"? How to make people buy stuff they really don't want? Most "finance" courses are taught by people who are obsessed by the idea of "something from nothing". What the hell IS finance? When one looks at the "financial services" industry one observes that 80% of money managers underperform a passive S&P 500 index fund. Now THAT is a useless industry.

Otherwise, I enjoyed your sardonic portrayal of the domain I left in disgust at a prematurely young age.

E.


Actually, Buck, when you're right, you're right. Astrology is PROVABLY bullshit. First of all, due to the Precession of the Equinoxes, the sun on, say, April 26 is now in Aries and NOT Taurus. Yet every astrology book on the market has fixed dates for all the signs that date back to the advent of astrology.

I don't know how otherwise reasonable people can believe something which is so easily exposed as bunk. Even the Wikipedia page has an extensive list of footnotes of articles which actually report controlled studies of astrology's truth and all came out negative.

However, the purely ASTRONOMICAL argument about astrology is an immediate buzzkill for this pseudoscience. Much of it originates from an era when guys thought stars were dots painted on the etheric globe surrounding earth by God. Sigh.


E.

You, also, have never yourself studied astrology. Thus your opinion is worthless.

Typically, you are starting with premises about causation. This is not what the scientific type normally does. First one studies the phenomenon itself, which is astrological correlation. (In any system you care to choose.)

To honestly study astrology, collect at least 100 natal charts of people you know well and study them. Plus watch your astrological transits and log what happens. For example, the Mars-square-moon, etc. Log and journal about those times. Do it for a few years. Then you will have studied astrology.

"Studying astrology" does not include the logical evaluation of false premises about it. The scientific man first studies the phenomenon itself; then only later tries to come up with theories about why it works. Neither of you have studied the phenomenon of astrological correlation, itself.

Planets don't cause anything, by the way. You cause them.

Needless to say, all problems to them are the direct result of racism. Everything from African colonialism to LIBOR rigging, it is all racism.
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Thanks for copy/pasting ^this^. The words I bolded got the biggest laugh of the morning from me. (OK, you posted at 12:36PM but I got up late.)


Q., regarding whether "Carol" is a "fucktard and a moron" said:

"No, not at all."
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Independently of the skirmishes that everyone has had with her, Q., why DON'T you think she's a fucktard and a moron.

Methinks you're having a kind of "bromance" with her where the "brotherhood" is based on obsession over syntax and vocabulary. Those are ELEMENTS that can produce "style" IF and only IF the writing is truly unique. Syntax and vocabulary alone are the outer structure of "style" but NOT its soul. Distinctiveness is the soul.

Her example bit about fat Steve seems like a sophomoric attempt to get a half-dozen nickel-dime words in like "vituperative". She "vocabularized" for a whole page about his corpulence. Was it good writing? I don't know what your comparison base is but it's a galaxy away from being good writing using my comparison base.


E.


Au contraire, Julian. I'll bet I know more about astrology than YOU. I can actually construct a natal chart. I know what a quincunx is. I know what angle the "Angle of Fortune" is ... 72 degrees. I know what trines, sextiles, and squares are. I know about houses. I know the hieroglyphs for all signs and all planets. Never make the mistake of dismissing your opponent before you even know who he is ... and you have NO IDEA.

Remember, above all, Julian, that I am FACT DRIVEN. You say NOTHING about the Precession of the Equinoxes. Therefore, your dismissal of my opinion as "worthless" is just snot and nothing more than snot. And ignorant snot it is!!!

E.

"There is no love lost between you and I"

I enjoy your posts Eleuthero. Your rubbishing of Newquist was tasty. But I'm going to make a grammar suggestion. "Me" should replace "I". As in "There is no love lost between you and ME."

Most people would choose the same pronoun that you did, so you have the majority on your side. But here comes the rule: "Between" is a preposition, and the grammar guardians decided a long time ago that a pronoun following a preposition in a prepositional phrase should be in the objective case. "Me" is objective."I" is not.

I'll critique my critique: usage trumps rules, and your version, as I've said, is commonly used.

In England now you can find quaint and historic old stone churches where they have removed all the green grass and trees that once surrounded it and replaced it with asphalt parking lot!

That strikes me as incongruous, given that church attendance has fallen so much. I pay attention to churches — the buildings, that is — because you can learn a lot from observing their fate. The greater incongruity, to me, is a church, common now in England, bristling with CCTV cameras. In a small parish not far from where I live in northern England, I saw a church that had a "No Trespassing" sign on it.

I'm not trying to be contentious, but to me a church with CCTV cameras pointing out at you or a sign saying "Keep Out"

= Failed Culture

"Au contraire, Julian. I'll bet I know more about astrology than YOU.

Sorry charlie. Only the observation of your astrological transits for a few years, plus the study of at least 100 charts of those you personally know -- constitutes the study of astrology. But let's not turn this into an astrology thread, for Jim's sake.

There may at present be no replacements for Shakespeare or Yeats or Dickens, but there IS a replacement for Oscar Wilde. He lives in England, he writes plays, and he's a Jew. His name is Tom Stoppard.

E.

Sadly true. There's little any of us can do about the direction of this country. As I said before the calculus of changes happens outside the national arena, as PCR said in his post.

Its about countries not going along with this anymore and looking out for what's best for them.

We're all in for a nasty ride.
Hope we make it through.

I don't know - some of the Puranas talk about people's stature being reduced to two feet tall and them eating their children. But alot of the bad stuff has already happened - like being ruled by women, men not caring about friendhships with other men, the death of filial piety, etc.

The Hindus love their huge numbers - perhaps as symbols of the immensity of the Universe? But I agree with them, that Man has been on Earth for a long time and that recorded history is only a sliver of what has happened. The Ice hides so much and it is due back anytime now.

But even the "small" figure of 26,000 years, the Cosmic Year, is a long time in human terms. Many Civilizations can rise and fall in that time.

I'll check out your Kali Yuga site. Do you have an Astrology site as well? You speak beautifully of the 12th House, but others speak of it as the House of Karma, Limitation, and Dominance by Subconscious patterns. Frankly, somehow I think both are true. I see both in my own Life - my Sun, Mercury, and Venus are all in the 12th House.

Check this out: Charlie Krafft, an artist and fellow Northwestener, is being targeted by the Jews for isolation, defamation, and destruction for being a "denier" or thinker in other words. Greg Johnson is coordinating the attempt to support him. He's hoping it dies down so no big publicity campaign yet - but be ready if it doesn't.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/02/the-persecution-of-charles-krafft/#comments

I think Krafft was the name of Hitler's astrologer.

Neither of you have studied the phenomenon of astrological correlation, itself.
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Julian, when you appeared out of nowhere yesterday and jumped in the fray, I enjoyed the hell out of your posts and was quite impressed with much you had to say. But all of a sudden you have lost all credibility with me because of this astrology BS.

The thing is... I don't even NEED to study astrology to know it's bullshit. Life is too short to waste my time. Just like I don't care how amazingly frequently the "Super Bowl Indicator" has accurately "predicted" the stock markets direction over the balance of the year. It's still bullshit. There's a term for it.. I forget.. specious correlation? Whatever.

And I don't need to study the Talmud to know that the Universe/God couldn't give a shit whether the orthodox Jews across the street throw a light switch or (*gasp*) tear their toilet tissue on the sabbath. I STILL get a good laugh when I think about them PRE-tearing their tissue on Thursday. Oh My God, the things people will do and believe!!

Ditto for all the Meher Baba heart-mind babble posted by Ront. The heart is an organ for pumping blood. It doesn't think or have emotions.

The Alliance of Men and Elves is falling apart. It WAS glorious while it last - one day! But remember, the Orcs hate us both. I'm half Elven like Elrond Half Elven, so I know.

You're right, they talk as if they're bullet proof. It's a mystery to me as to what liberals/leftists are thinking. I can't grok them. They want to stick it to "the man". But to a large extent THEY are "the man". THEY are the establishment. They live the good life, infesting colleges and the the broader educational system, the judiciary and the civil service and Manhattan and Wall Street and Hollywood. Yet they cheer the demise of the system that's been their bread and butter. And they side with declared enemies of the US. And not just from the sidelines.

So they see someone like Julian Assange and his mass dump of diplomatic cables and they wet their undies. I don't get this. Assange gave the gangsters running Beijing and Moscow and Riyad a treasure chest of information. I suppose his fans thought he really stuck it to the US. He surely did.

But what about that time honored liberal sneering point, you know, "blowback". Did these shit-for-brains not think about that? Because Boy Wonder tilted the playing field or could easily have done so in favor of some nasty regimes. Much worse regimes than the despised Americans.

A question: is there going to be a mass dump of Chinese or Russian diplomatic cables anytime soon? I doubt it. Because the potential perps (Assange included) would know that they'd be living (and dying) with a bull's eye on their backs. I can't imagine Putin sparing any effort to kill them or giving a shit about world opinion on the matter. Same with the Chinese. They'd make sure the end was nasty and public just to send a message.

For example: remember Alexander Litvinenko? Worked for the FSB and then worked as a consultant for MI6. How dumb was that? Did he seriously think he'd get away with it? He should have assumed another identity and lived a quiet life. He might have been ok. But noooooo. Finally was served with a hearty snack of radioactive polonium. Made him very sick and killed him. But very slowly, slow enough that the doctors would figure out the cause. The Russians did this rub-out extra special so it couldn't be mistaken for anything other than Putin's fist reaching out from the Kremlin. Creative messaging wouldn't you say?

Seems that there's a substantial subset of liberals in an incontinent zeal to bring down the US but that don't seem to get that they will be harming themselves in the process and quite possibly giving aid to some pretty awful rivals. Irrational, no?

BTW do you know I actually heard Eleanor Clift say that drones are a "blessing"?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/09/eleanor_clift_drones_are_a_blessing.html

Can you imagine? If it was a Republican administration using them as a whacking stick you'd never hear the end of it. But now the civilian dead from a drone missile are waved away as the lesser of the evils. Especially if a judge puts his imprimatur on the hit. Never mind the idiocy of this implicit judicial veto on military matters.

Man, things get weirder by the day. So many Americans, especially liberals, demand the unfettered right to kill in droves the ones you shouldn't ie your unborn but get all squeamish about killing the people you should ie those sworn to kill you. Ass backwards it seems to me. Too much for an old guy. What do I know.

War is a miserable thing. But if jihadis want to die for their religion I'm all in favor. One less murderer stinking up the Earth is not a bad thing, two fewer is a better thing. Etc.

What plagues, meteorites, or Ice Age killed off fifty to ninety percent of the population? Never heard of them.

The two big plagues of history, the plague in Justinian's time and the so-called Black Death nine centuries later, killed a much smaller percentage than fifty.

The last Ice Age, the one that ended 12,000 years ago, kept humans OUT of the northern latitudes rather than killed them en mass. The Ice Age before that one was too far back for us to know whether it cut human numbers by fifty plus.

Meteorites? Perhaps. But where was this meteor strike, and when?

You have much information in your head Eleuthero, but since you fire so quickly and in so many directions, you don't bother to aim.

"There is no love lost between you and I"
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I too heard the nails scratch across the blackboard when I read ^this,^ Jam, but I bit my tongue. Different issue but it reminds me of a line from Live and Let Die:

"..and if this ever-changing world in which we live in..."

Groan.

I want to scream at the radio "Paul, make up your mind, do you want to avoid a preposition at the end of a sentence or not?!"

Why not see it the other way: because of Julian's stature give Astrology another look? Someone so good at Grammar and Carol bashing must have other good qualities and abilities.

Still feeling Bromantic about your lil Soaka Carol?

Does the Sun revolve around the Earth or vice versa? Depends on which perspective you adopt. But Ptolemy and the Ancients were wrong when they thought that there was no more than our solar system - and Bruno and the moderns correct. But the Center? There is none but the one you adopt. The Earth is not as good as any but better than any since this is where we live.

That being said, it would be interesting to know what if anything there was at the Center of the Galaxy. A Black hole? Or Paradise, Vortavor as the Romulans call it.

A few months ago I sent him an abbreviated pdf version of Phillipe Rushton's classic […]

I hadn't heard of this guy. A quick search gave me the chance to read something about him from two opposing camps, which is good.

Salon.com says his work stank: "Brian Timney, dean of social science, which includes the psychology department where Rushton actually worked, said Rushton’s legacy 'was not a great one.' 'His research was not highly thought of,' Timney said. 'I work in neuroscience and I expect some academic vigor. He was not vigorous.'

Vigor? Vigorous? I'm going to be charitable and assume the good professor was misquoted.

"...I enjoyed the hell out of your posts and was quite impressed with much you had to say. But all of a sudden you have lost all credibility with me because of this astrology BS.

That's O.K. Fellows who have strong opinions about subjects they know nothing about -- always have zero credibility with me start/finish. So consider the feeling mutual! Sorry the subject frightens you so much. I only mentioned Jim's astrological chart to give insight into him and praise him. I wasn't intending to agitate you believers. (You "believe" astrology is nonsense; you've never actually studied it. Because it threatens you somehow.) Carry on.

Well I must admit that is thought provoking. I don't trust the U.S at all - I think they have betrayed us and shilling for the New World Order. Thus I like Assange. But you are right: these others are no better and worse right now. Litivenko? Is he the one that became President of Ukrainia? Yes, he should have kept a lower profile if he had been a spy. The Russians don't tolerate that kind of insult. They burned with fury when we bombed Serbia: nothing they could do without starting WW3. But do something in a Nation contiguous with their own and they will be on you like White on rice. They crused the Armenians in their little border war last year.

Yes, Liberals won the Culture War and can't deal with the responsibility of being the Establishment by and large. Keith Richards was infuriated when Mick Jagger accepted knighthood. These are the people who used to bust us for smoking pot, he fumed. He just couldn't accept that his cohort had triumphed and there was no one left to blame.

So does a Nation have the right to have secrets? I'd say yes but we are no longer a viable nation and the Elite plot against their own people. So I'll stick to my position though I don't discount yours on this issue.

I'm half Elven like Elrond Half Elven, so I know.
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Is changing the f in Elf to a v and adding en sort of the same as adding ish to Jew?

I can understand Elf, Elves, Elfish and Elfin but I'm having a hard time with Elven.

Interestingly, of all the cats we've had, Elfin was the most beloved.

Like Arthur Jenson, Rushton studied other topics in Psychology and had papers published on them. In other words, he wasn't a hack who got into the field to slander Blacks. Jenson was asked to study Black IQ by Educators. His paper that nothing could fundamentally be done to help them was a shock to the system.

If you go back to the 1940's, there was alot of brave talk about how we should let Blacks have a chance and find out whether they can make it on their own or go as far as they can, etc. All bullshit: the Professors had their marching orders. The Mandarans had been told what to believe and teach by the Elite. This kind of talk was just soft soaping or pandering to the ignorant, racist, White masses. They the Professors already knew the Truth of Human Equality. They reacted with utter fury when one of their own actually did real research and found differently.

The vast majority of Professors are time servers and intellectual whores dancing for their dinner. Real intellectuals who put the Truth before Dinner are quite rare. How many do anything with their much vaunted tenure?

Rushton was attacked by antifa scum on the street and in his classroom. He had security at one point. Also the Quebec Police launched an investigation of him, concluding that he was just a harmless creep. Real nice, eh? Here's the book, not a pdf this time.

http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

"I don't know - some of the Puranas talk about people's stature being reduced to two feet tall and them eating their children."

Yipes. Maybe you're right. Maybe we have a ways to fall still. Well, here in Portland, Oregon will probably be the first place those sort of things (above) begin. Or maybe Eugene.

"But I agree with them, that Man has been on Earth for a long time and that recorded history is only a sliver of what has happened."

It's my instinct too. Of course, as the Yoga-Vasistha says: "However the mind conceives the order to be, The Order becomes."

Thus if a fellow fancies a "long history" instead of a short one, I reckon he will get that. We get the "history" we deserve.

You speak beautifully of the 12th House, but others speak of it as the House of Karma, Limitation, and Dominance by Subconscious patterns.

Be aware there is a lot of idiocy out there, and much contradiction. Astrology is, after all, nothing but one's own self-projected "law." (Like all the other laws.)

You could certainly say that the 12th House is the most complex. It's an aspect of Pisces/12th House, in fact, that it seems to be able to become anything at all. The main thing about Pisces/12th is that it doesn't permit ego-control. It strips ego. Similar to the way that your dream life your ego seems to be lacking control, I suppose. 12th house experiences kill pride and honor, often through loss. Out of that can come mystic knowledge, insanity, all-giving qualities, and true beauty. Notice how James loves to go to wild untouched places, plus lost and abandoned places. He even writes about them and shows them to the world. They are both "12th house" places. A beautiful monastery for seclusion or church is also a 12th house place. In Jim's architectural advocacy he is often trying to assist others to re-create their places in these ways. To make even a thoroughfare or outside walkway into a kind of cathedral.

"Frankly, somehow I think both are true. I see both in my own Life - my Sun, Mercury, and Venus are all in the 12th House."

Such placements are associated, on the higher end, with mystical search; interest in meditation, for starters. If still living in the place of birth (we weaken our natal charts by moving), one would have many experiences in "12th house places." I won't make a list.

"Check this out: Charlie Krafft, an artist and fellow Northwestener, is being targeted by the Jews for isolation..."

Yes. Through the power of all the righteuos moral authority of the Jewish-owned "Stranger," the people who created and host "Amateur Porn Festivals" for the young Whites of both Seattle and Oregon. Please, Jews. Someday those who name the name (like the girl in Rumpelstiltskin) for the protection of their people and the puncturing of lies -- will be honored.

"I think Krafft was the name of Hitler's astrologer."

If Hitler had an astrologer he was a lousy astrologer. The commencement of Operation Barbarosa, like the commencement of the Iraq war, was highly unfortunate in timing and would have, I would have thought, guaranteed defeat.

There is not enough time or energy in a person's life to study all the nonsensical beliefs that exist. For most, all one need do is open his eyes. If there is a religion that says 2 + 2 = 5 I don't need to study math to call bullshit on it.

Different issue but it reminds me of a line from Live and Let Die: "..and if this ever-changing world in which we live in..." Groan. I want to scream at the radio...

But songwriting is different that grammar policing. If it serves the song; that's All. Have you ever noticed the strange word-oddities, including deliberate mispronunciations, Elton John and Bernie Taupin use to make songs work? (Or for that matter as an aspect of creativity.) The Beatles were long producing word-oddities before Paul wrote that song. (My parents thought it was incorrect and lascivious to call women "baby," and they didn't like the repetitive nonsensical singing of the word "yeah." To them it should have been "Yes, yes, yes." My parents were a lot like you!) John specialized in interesting wordplay and gibberish. Some will also say "that doesn't rhyme." Yet getting a non-rhyming verse to work anyway is a very part of the glee and delight that a song workman feels as he works. It's so hard to create any New thing. And are there really rules in modern poetry or its near cousin lyric-writing? That's quite a quibble to make with one of the world's most amazing songwriters.

But kind regards anyway.

There is not enough time or energy in a person's life to study all the nonsensical beliefs that exist.

Your confusion is that you think in terms of "beliefs" rather than study. I never "believed" in astrology; rather, I studied it. Have you ever observed the hours when the Moon sextiles your natal Saturn? (No.) Thus you've never studied astrology. Instead, you have beliefs about it.

Why yes. Jewven would be weird. But Elven sound right, at least for those into LOTR lore. Also a noun as in "She speaks Elven". Some do btw.

You have to understand the mantraic theory of languages. F is Feminine. Thus Dee called me Flad instead of Vlad. Likewise, flaccid sounds limper than vlaccid would. The V is masculine. The Z even more so as in Scorzne. Sound carries meaning in and of itself, Q. Quenya is the high Elven language. As you know from your studies in Latin, the ancients saw everything as either masculine or feminine. It's overdone, but there's some wisdom in it.

White Nationalists call Whitefish, Mt, Jewfish because of the many Jews there. They prefer neighboring Kalispell. My Jewish friend Joe called one of his Jewish Contra Dance partners White Fish because of his lovely White Skin highlighted by her dark hair and eyes. But though they shared many interests, he found her an insufferable prig. And she was. As the song goes, "Is she weird, is she White, is married? to the night, does her head have no room?" Jews have a wonderful bohemian tradition and they're very good at it and their Establishment is much friendlier to it than ours is. Joe has found such a girl now.

What is gelfite fish like? Have you had it? Is it White?

That being said, it would be interesting to know what if anything there was at the Center of the Galaxy. A Black hole? Or Paradise, Vortavor as the Romulans call it.
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^This^ is a good example of your problem, Vlad. You DO realize that the Romulans didn't call it Vortavor? Right? It was a Hollywood screen/script
writer (with a wife, 2 kids and a 401K) who said the Romulans called the center of the Galaxy, Vortavor.

We have all wondered about such things ... How far out does the void extend beyond the most distant speck of matter in the universe? Does the universe reverse its expansion and collapse back, then have another Big Bang, and so on forever?

But YOU combine a vast knowledge of trivia into a personal religion that all seems to hang together: Catholicism, Hinduism, race, meditation, IQ, Star Trek, shaktipat, Harry Potter, Illuminati, Jewish bankers, blond hair, testosterone, the founding fathers, Egyptian Caucasians, Amerindian Caucasians, Hitler's hunting cap, Communists, bad women, gun rights, thick skulls, brown hordes, etc etc and you have spun it all into a well coiffed and plausible worldview slash religion with a place for every hair and every hair in its place. It's quite amazing.

Well, you're very erudite and it's all very interesting and amusing but I ain't buyin it.

"Ditto for all the Meher Baba heart-mind babble posted by Ront. The heart is an organ for pumping blood. It doesn't think or have emotions."

Not only will the mystics and saints differ on this with you, Kyoo, but also this new branch of science:

http://www.heartmath.org/faqs/research/research-faqs.html

Just out of curiosity, what do you think of Jesse Jackson Jr.'s abscounding with about $750K of Obama's campaign contributions? I'd say that blacks are as capable as whites of ripping off the public. It's a fine day for the Democratic party! Mink jackets and gold plated Rolexes are among his many trinkets, included with but not limited to Michael Jackson memorabalia. His wife has been convicted of tax fraud. And yet you continue to maintain that blacks and whites are not equal. Care to change that viewpoint?

Ending sentences with prepositions used to be a cardinal sin in my era but alas, no more. My grandaughter (she's 26) informed me that the rule no longer applies. She works at Wells Fargo as a financial analyst, which doesn't exactly give me confidence in her grammar acumen.

Greed and stupidity, thinking you can get away with this kind of graft without being discovered? Very human. Doesn't belong to any one group.
He will join Duke Cunningham in the can.

A nation is allowed to have secrets, but if they are exposed you become part of a hit list. Just ask Julian Assange.

I disagree with the article's comment on old broads. Rarely have I seen that type of behavior in a restaurant. The others I'd likely concur with (preposition):D


Rhino - Cash ?

Yeah, we know rhino, you were the one who had to work saturday to show the boss you "worked hard" so he wouldn't fire you and such, the "hard work" myth and all, you as a slave;

You were the one who was envious and jealous of all of the liberal, alternative, progressive left wingers in college who laid all the pretty girls who were fascinated by their sophistication and their elite while you were ignored, being a right wing crappy working class origins boy, you could never get laid with all those pretty girls, you weren't liberal enough and such, and you are still fighting that;

You were the one whose parents came from an "old country" and were always shoving down your throat how much better the old country was and such crap (but you knew that the old countries all suck, they can keep their puny culture conservative culture that keeps them poor and such);

You were the one who has to be proud of living a life like a loser, a corporate slave, you never became the boss, the king, always under the thumb of someone and you can't admit what a loser you were and such;

Aren't you a bit like you and me and everyone else ?

But if you did have the power you would like to kill them all, beat them up, like in Django the movie, I envy them, I envy the simplicity of that life, no morality, no reasoning, no nothing, pure instinct, someone you don't like, then just shoot him right off the bat, on the spot, nothing deeper to think about, life is worthless anyways, and so forth (like a piece of paper gives someone the right to kill another on the spot, the law, the indirection, the retribution is made, the equation is solved, vindication for past wrongs, or shooting someone from far away makes them almost invisible, like an insect and such, all irrational, nothing justifies anything else, zero time, no morality here, everything is on the surface, no matter how deep you try to make it, no matter how hard you try, you are just a one bit machine, action reaction, A against B, A shoots B, end of story and so forth) ;

But you are the one who is writing on this blog, you are writing to an abstract imaginary common construction called the imaginary box, like a generalized eye looking down at everything, like god, judging, the universal abstract - objective - absolute judgment of all people, all deeds, all things and such, and you are trying to convince the imaginary box of reasoning how right you are, the magical box of common construction, the box where validity is universal and general, and so forth, but it is all vain and such;

What do you achieve (or me or anything ?) ? you provoke a reply from half way around the world ? you know that another magical box will reply, is listening, the abstraction to its upmost extent? The idea that another piece of matter can experience something you provoked ? and why ? does it even make sense...

Now go on, stick it in the Rant House, go on shove a V8 engine in brains, change brains, change worlds, ever...


TOBOR THE ROBOT THE APESTER

Thanks. I skimmed through the Rushton booklet, clearly intended for a lay audience rather than academics. Question: why disseminate this information to the public? No wonder people were pissed. The authorities would have argued, I expect, that this is not information that ordinary people, who do not formulate public policy, should have access to. What are they going to do with it?

I confess I'm not really interested in Rushton's findings. But I am interested in whether they are scientifically valid, because then acknowledging this becomes a test of honesty, and I'm extremely interested in matters of honesty, who practises it, who does not, and why.

I'm amazed by Rushton's hope that we may one day live in a hard-headed society that acknowledges that race is biological and not a social construct, and that, for example, models its education system to take account of those differences.

What we live in now is a society that combines egalitarian make-believe, carefully nurtured taboos about race, and, increasingly, severe sanctions for violating these taboos, because it has been decreed that we are equal.

Well, I'm all for social harmony, if this is what it takes. Meanwhile, I regard any taboo as an invitation to explore what lies behind it.

There isn't a can large enough to hold all the trash that belongs in it, otherwise, yes, graft is not bounded by demographics.

I'm still unable to process the idea of a Pakistani named Jerry. I've run across many in my travels, but never one with that name. Maybe someone can explain.

myrtlemay, corporate communication between colleagues is as awful as you could imagine, so your comment about a financial analyst lacking in grammatical acumen is well-founded. It's why I had to laugh when Kyooshtik made the opinionated comment that the better writers use very little punctuation. That simply isn't true. There are great writers who use a great deal of punctuation, and there are some who are minimalists in that regard, but rest assured, in corporate communications between colleagues via e-mail, you wouldn't know there was such a thing as punctuation, and should you run across someone who does use it, they're using it incorrectly. It's enough to make you grimace. And weep. And laugh. Not cry, though. I won't cry for that. Ever.

http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=181690

now go on, stick it in the Rant House, go on stick it in mundane babble, go on show your power, go on, do that, go on express your free will, go on

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Meanwhile, I regard any taboo as an invitation to explore what lies behind it.

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Cannibalism included? I don't see that mentioned around these parts much, but it's as much a taboo as the typical racist crap that's bandied about at this dive.

Why is Cannibalism a taboo? Considering everything else that we do to each other, it doesn't seem that outrageous.

...graft is not bounded by demographics.

That should have been "bound," not "bounded." And there were two sentences inside of one.

I'm still unable to process the idea of a Pakistani named Jerry.

I'm easily processing the idea of a black American male named Carol Newquist.

...so your comment about a financial analyst lacking in grammatical acumen is well-founded.

You are funny.

...made the opinionated comment..."

Oh no! An opinionated comment? (Aren't all the comments here opinions?)

...that the better writers use very little punctuation. That simply isn't true. There are great writers who use a great deal of punctuation, and there are some who are minimalists in that regard, but rest assured, in corporate communications between colleagues via e-mail, you wouldn't know there was such a thing as punctuation, and should you run across someone who does use it, they're using it incorrectly.

Are you Jonesin' about your punctuation backfire-a-dilloes? Your coach, the penis-proud "buck," needs to work on you for a few more years.

"Like everything else, strategically placed moderation is the key.

What is "strategically placed moderation"?

"I must admit that I shy away from the colon and the semi-colon. I'm not sure why this is. In fact, I believe I unconsciously write to avoid its use, and only ever realize it after the fact. It's something I need to look into with greater introspective depth.

That above is how a black male posing as an intellectual talks when it's been pointed out to him that his grammar policing is useless and that his punctuation is bad.

Forgive my last, stupid, comment, Janos. I realise the issue is big and wide and isn't friggin' all about me.

But YOU combine a vast knowledge of trivia into a personal religion that all seems to hang together: Catholicism, Hinduism, race, meditation...It's quite amazing."

The universe seems to hang together, too. One should be an interesting writer and mind to post well on web boards. Especially if he is advocating unpopular views. I'd rather hear the views of a well-read man who has considered many things in this life.

Well, you're very erudite and it's all very interesting and amusing but I ain't buyin it.

Buying what? (You didn't specify; you were unclear.)

Vlad/Janos continuously comes back to just a few bedrock views and positions, and very clearly, just as Jim Kunstler is clear that he likes architectural embellishment and a human "urban fabric." Are you as consistent in what you advocate? Do you take any positions as clearly? Do you even have, in other words, anything that you can "sell" (advocate for)?

Please, don't fault the man for being interesting, entertaining, or for being unapologetic in stating his view.

What's happening with precious metals? Value is going down, down, down ...

Gold usually tracks oil, and oil has slipped a little, too. But not as much. I've read in a few places that huge quantities of gold have been moved around of late involving Iran, Turkey, Russia and China. I think it has to do with the sanctions against Iran. Not sure, tho.

==ComradeDystopia

Why is Cannibalism a taboo?

I don't know. The taboo that I'm exploring at this time is suicide. You mentioned "racist crap." Here is an article that examines "suicide crap":

http://theviewfromhell.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/suicidal-signs-merit-immediate.html

And I will up the ante, Miss MM!

“In 2013, O’Connor was charged with money laundering. Under arrangements with federal prosecutors, she has agreed to repay $2 million which she allegedly took from a nonprofit foundation she managed. Prosecutors said she had had gambling wins and losses exceeding $1 billion over the period 2000-2008, leaving her “destitute”.”
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2013/02/15/all-three-networks-fail-identify-mayor-who-gambled-away-billion-doll

‘All three network morning shows on Friday ignored the fact that the ex-San Diego mayor who gambled away an astonishing $1 billion is a Democrat. ABC's Good Morning America, NBC's Today and CBS This Morning covered Maureen O'Connor and explained how she wasted most of the money on video poker. But none of them mentioned the party affiliation of the politician.’

'I don't even NEED to study astrology to know it's bullshit.'

Well! It is like different Political parties disagreeing.
In Astrology, there is Sidereal, Vedic, Chinese,
Tibetan. Disagreeing with each other.

Kyoo,

If I may add to your crazy list of Vlad musings--why does waste his time with Hindu zodiac prophesies, Nostradamus, and other such fantasy?
If anyone on the planet could predict the future with acuracy, I'm sure I'd have heard about it.

Jen

For those who do not check the homepage here:

http://www.kunstler.com/Greenwich%20Winter.html

Well you have a conundrum. I really don't know how you can judge honesty in academia without knowledge. I believe Arthur Jenson trounced Stephen Jay Gould in their debate via articles - apparently Gould didn't understand advanced statistics. If you try to make a genius like Jenson look like a fook, you'll end up looking like one - to an advanced audience. But that's the rub - few people are. And the Jews control the media to the masses.

Jared Taylor has written about your point. Murray and Hernstein, authors of the Bell Curve, wanted a Society where the cards fell as they may - and where low Black IQ wasn't thrown around to humiliate them. Taylor pointed out that that ship had sailed and that White politeness had been used
against them for decades. As I told Prog, Blacks and their allies aren't going to give up affirmative action after fifty years. It's a right now and it will take blood now to end it. Yet if it doesn't end, Whites will be all but enslaved. And it was supposed to be just for Blacks and just for awhile. Now look at it. And the countless millions of newly amnestied Hispanics will all be put ahead of Whites.

John Michael Greer is about the most spot on future prophet whom I've read. His recent column is worth a read. He claims that our descent began around 1974 (the oil crisis) and won't come to fruition until well after all of us are 6 feet under. This makes sense to me in that I've seen the decline in my purchase power erode quite significantly since that time. I've been on a fixed income for about 30 years, and I am now able to carry in one bag about one hundred dollars worth of groceries in ONE bag. (Happened today at the local Farmer's Market.) That was ALL food.

fook should be fool. I mean what the fook. So Jared Taylor tends towards White Separatism since he doesn't see us ever gettinga along with the Blacks. From a larger perspective, the more races and religions in a Nation, the weaker it will be. Each Nation is supposed to have a Culture - not contain many. That's recipe for disaster. Empires are weak unless the subject peoples can be assimilated. And past a certain point, any Empire will lose the ability to do that. Each new group weakens the core, you see.

If you want the original book in all its vigor and rigor, you can find in Amren's bookstore. Btw, I don't have it at my finger tips, but at one point the world's leading psychometricians did take out an ad in the NY Times defending Arthur Jenson I believe. Science is unanimous about Black IQ.

"Well! It is like different Political parties disagreeing. In Astrology, there is Sidereal, Vedic, Chinese,
Tibetan. Disagreeing with each other.

Which is part of the fun of it all.

All externalized systems of law that you see working, because they are self-projections like all the rest, work because of your own conditioning. The "laws" that govern clouds, rain, light, etc. fall in the same category. It's all your conditioning. See, the average fellow approaches the very subject with all sorts of presumptions about what it is. Thus choose the systems -- in all areas -- that work for you.

It's because the mind itself is the projector that the world also contains "systems of law" showing a correlation between microcosm (you) and macrocosm. The waves move in the water because the moose is walking through the water.

Well you have a conundrum. I really don't know how you can judge honesty in academia without knowledge.

Excellent point. I can't. But, I also can't corroborate any of Rushton's findings. Or Jenson's for that matter. Do you see the problem? To escape the charge of being a racist, you have to marshal statistics that flummox the Stephen Jay Goulds of this world.

What did Robert Anton Wilson say about this kind of enterprise? Hard work, no pay, and if you get anywhere near the truth the fanatics of every stripe will jump all over you with spiked heels.

My mind is like Irish History - the oldest in Europe. Fact, Dates, and "real people" gradually give way to Myths, Godlike Races and Individuals, and a one eye Giant named Balor whose eye also shoots a death ray. Hindu and Greek history are like this too. But the Irish Monks created a particularly smooth and seamless garment...

I have admitted that I'm in some conflict so it doesn't "all" hang together perfectly. But yes, I have far greater ability to synthesize than the average person. I specialize in being a generalist.

Krishna teaches that those who don't surrender to Him during life, will surrender to Him at Death - whether they want to or not. Death is one of His Names you see. You will see the other world sooner or later - even if you keep your eyes closed until you have no eyes.

Looks like Congressman Jackson scored some pretty nifty swag with that 750 Gs he lifted: Rolex watches, sports and movie memorablia, a caddy ... S-w-e-e-t!!!

== CD

If you've worked or gone to school with Blacks, you know they aren't equal - and that the Establishment is lying. If you haven't personally, ask someone who has. Start there.

I talked to a daycare worker. She said the little Black Babies were far more active than the Asians or Whites. Rushton found the same thing. That's corroboration right there. She hadn't read Rushton nor had I asked her about it or lead her on. It just came up out of the blue.

Just as capable of fraud and graft? What a funny way to put it. Everwhere they rule is a disaster that degenerates towards African levels of squalor. We can do better? We know this because we used to. But can they? When? Where?

I used to be a Baha'i. We were a movement of white-guilted folk trying to expiate their TV-engineered white-guilt by embracing a religion that preached "all one family." (Later I realized, of course, that the world "family" actually means something.) Eventually miscegenation became the high sacrament for Baha'is. Anyway, I came into life with nothing but goodwill toward blacks, thinking of them as victims, and fascinated whenever I happened to know one. I have lived with blacks, walked through their neighborhoods many times at all hours (and yes, been threatened), and raised a half-black adopted son. I was never around people growing up who spoke disparagingly of blacks and we considered any such person backward.

Anyway, I have had 4 dealings with blacks since coming to Portland. I will list them:

-- A fellow who used to stand and panhandle who was on parole and had been imprisoned for robbing banks. He would go into a store and hand the clerk a note saying he knew where they lived (and their children lived) and that he would kill them if they didn't hand over the money. (He told me all this.)

-- A black who would stand on the street and hurl angry insults at me whenever I passed. (He didn't know me.)

-- A big guy who comes in one coffee shop, continually coughs and sneezes, fingers his Ipod incessantly, and puts his big feet and legs up on the chairs of nearby coffee tables, blocking the way for people to walk while making that table (and its chairs) unusable by anybody. He gets gladhanded and hailed-fellow-well-met by young Whites who he apparently went to school with, and he is quick to talk politics and race.

-- A guy who advertised to sell his RV (camping vehicle) and drove it to where I was. I was going to pay cash of course. He wanted to give me a random piece of paper, some receipt he got from some state office, as the "Title" instead of any real title. He insisted that with this mysterious white piece of paper that said "Receipt for Fees" I could have legal possession of his RV. I waved him bye.

-- A nameless number of blacks who walk down the street proudly with White women. While they practice traitorship of their own women (who are the most unmated group), they always seem to have a cocky attitude of conquest and make a big show of actions like touching her butt, etc.

This is my more recent experience with blacks. In earlier life, prior to age 5, my brothers were robbed by a pack of them (they had dogs that were aggressive), and two African American teenage girls kidnapped me and held me hostage for a few hours, keeping my arm behind my back and giving it a twist up every now and then.

I'm leaving out quite a few stories about my dealings with blacks. Worse ones. For example, my ex-wife was raped by a black who said he was trained in martial arts and snap her neck easily if she screamed. My favorite girlfriend, Sue Searles, was murdered by the black serial killer Coral Eugene Watts.

And yet I still became a Baha'i, trying to save the world and affirm that "all are the same." I don't even have any animosity for them now. But I don't want to merge with them and I don't see what they ever did to earn a right to depredate our women. (What did blacks every do to deserve a White woman? And why are they unashamed to treat them as superior and more desirable than their own women?)

Whites so much want to be Good and noble, though never appreciated by the blacks, and this is what is ruining us.

Typo Police Repellant:

"(Later I realized, of course, that the word "family" actually means something.)

And I meant to say "my brothers and I" were robbed by the gang of some 10 'youths.' I was there. They made us empty our pockets and complained when the watch they were stealing from one of my brothers didn't work. The dogs, which growled from their leashes and which they let get near us, were very frightening to a kid of four. I think segregation is best, on reflection.

Maybe everyone was wrong and the precious metals aren't going to be such a great hedge against inflation. Perhaps somehow the Elite have gotten control of the prices of these commodities. They've been stagnant for a long time now.

"Others are more ambitious. They want to transform an aesthetically mediocre physique into an aesthetically superior one. Can't be done.

A well built man is well built because of bone, not muscle.

Weight-work in a gym can alter the size and shape of muscle. Everyone knows this. Yet many physique-conscious men seem not to understand that working out with weights cannot make a well formed physique out of a ill formed one. Weight-work can't do this because it can't alter bone."

The term "well-formed physique" and "aesthetically superior one" are so subjectively presented as to be meaningless. And do you really mean "bones" per se, or the proportional scaffolding that bones construct? For instance, the Classical Greek sculptors/aesthetes formulated canons that asserted seven to seven and half heads tall as the ideal proportion. From there the distance from clavicle to clavicle was two heads lengths wide; a femur was two heads lengths long,etc,etc,etc.

Of course then there's the factor of scale/size. A 5'5" man could be very well proportioned according to sculptural canons and be very aesthetically pleasing to a 4'11" woman. On the other hand, a 6'2" woman might not find the same man aesthetically pleasing at all; she needs her 7 and a half heads tall man to be 6'4 inches. The shorter man is simply too short for her subjective taste. But all of that has nothing to do with proportion per se, but scale.

Moreover, you set up a false construct. Because weight, strength-choose whatever word you like - can help to alter aesthetic appearance of any given individual in comparison to a previous state of physical fitness. That's the essence of all the before/after success stories.

But let's compare apples to apples if you will. The professional football player of the 1970s'had the basic underlying bone structure of a player today. But there is a pronounced visual difference in "aesthetic" appearance of today's players as compared to then. For one, they are far leaner and lithe and markedly more defined/chiseled. And the great percentage of this visual difference is not as a result of "bones' but of muscle, tendon, sinew etc,.

And of course aesthetic preference is often a result of cultural conditioning. For example, how many times has Vlad, Radu, Janus sung the praises of his favorite Nazi sculptor Arno Brecker and dropped to the ground in drooling admiration of his nude figures:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0rdLYfytnnM/TK6n1UiBtZI/AAAAAAAADDQ/_ClBF5xfBe8/s1600/Arno_Breker_Der_Sieger_%281939%29.jpg

Did he drop to his knees? And drool? And how many times?

Here are some tips. To write like a White man, try to avoid unnecessary words. It only makes it look like you are working hard to impress. Examples of useless flowery Funklefine include: "per se" and "of course."

"False construct" is a pretentious construction.

"Aesthetic appearance" could have been just "appearance."

"basic underlying bone structure" could have been simply "bone structure."

When using dashes (to imitate the em-dash of typography) use two, ideally with spaces to either side. I refer to this:

Because weight, strength-choose whatever word you like - can help..."

A short-dash has a different function than a long-dash, and a long dash must be created from two short dashes -- like that.

"On the other hand, a 6'2" woman might not find the same man aesthetically pleasing at all; she needs her 7 and a half heads tall man to be 6'4 inches."

I don't accept you as Expert on What Attracts Women. At least not white women. Black expertise with women is a false construct. So is their Big Dick meme. (Not that it matters because white women are not like barnyard animals.)

Over-use of "etc." is a way of looking like you know more than you are bothering to writing, I know, but is a lazy gimmick that makes the reader work harder. You used "etc." four times.

More...

The term "well-formed physique" and "aesthetically superior one" are so subjectively presented as to be meaningless.

How is a thing "subjectively presented"? It would have worked better to say:

"...are so subjective as to be..." or even "are subjective."

"But let's compare apples to apples if you will."

"If you will" is a sure sign that a Black is speaking. Does a black ever talk among Whites without saying "if you will"? I've never seen it happen.

You use quote marks too often where you don't need them. It gives the impression of self-consciousness and, again, too much trying to be punctilious. Quote marks are called for less often than the unbaked writer thinks. Note the journeyman writer Jim Kunstler's ways. You won't see many quote marks even when he is referring to the idea of another. They can come off as overly fussy and argumentative, making the reader work harder.

All that crap from him just so he could make one little slur on the manhood and sexual normalcy of a racialist poster. Sheesh.

Well you have a conundrum.
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The car windows were so fogged up from our sweating and panting and writhing that we couldn't see out and she said "don't even THINK about it if you didn't bring a conundrum."

tanks doc!

What's that have to do with gelfite?

Fess up Jules. You’re an astrology fraud (you still haven’t told us how you know JHK’s hour of birth or if you were simply lying when proclaiming him as a “Scorpio Rising” )and now you try to even the score and divert the focus all in one fell swoop. And your claim that JHK is a lover of beauty in order to give your “astrology reading” credibility was absolutely hilarious. Anyone and everyone who has read JHK knows he is a lover of beauty; that’s why he has an “Eyesore of the Month’ and why he posts his paintings. But somehow your “astrology reading” – what about JHKs hour of birth again? – divined his love of beauty. LOL – even a rattlesnake handling faith healer has a more creative delivery than that or maybe you just descend from a long line of dull elixir salesmen?
BTW, if you start writing of barber shop tales and high seas adventures I probably won’t be surprised. On the other hand, that former poster wasn’t nearly as dull and foolish as you.
Simply put, your astrology post revealed you as a buffoon.

It's more like you keep bringing him up and I keep admitting he's good. You're the one who thinks Art takes the place of morality; that it is Life and not just an important part of it. Morality, Thought, and Devotion are closer to the Axis or Trunk of the Cosmic Tree. There was a famous Monk who never looked up at the Masterpieces in his home Cathedral; a Buddhist Monk who never looked at the Masterpieces of Ajanta. That was right for them since they saw them as distractions. That would probably never be right for you. But for both you and them, Morality, Thought, and Devotion come first. Art is good to the extent it embodies these and/or inspires them in viewers. These two Monks had gone beyond the need for such externals evidently.

"You’re an astrology fraud...

Astrology wasn't the topic. But rather, your black writing tendencies.

And when a thing works, it can't be called fraudulent. These things are over your head, black buck.

I notice you don't dispute this basic claim of mine that you are black. It was obvious to me.

Anyone and everyone who has read JHK knows he is a lover of beauty;...But somehow your “astrology reading” – what about JHKs hour of birth again? – divined his love of beauty.

Your mind is squirming like a toad, young buck. The object was, indeed, to take something generally known about him then give some insight to it.

For the board (not to this clown): "Beauty" is not, in fact, the kind of value Kunstler explicitly champions. Neither are refuges. Seeing his career ruler in the 12th house was unexpected for me and made me respect him in a new way. It's the 8th House and 4th houses that are the typical architecture houses in astrology.
Many astrologers might have assumed his chart was heavier in the 8th house, Scorpio areas (jointly held property/infrastructure), or the 4th House (land, property, buildings, home). I was surprised to see a 12th house placement of his career ruler as an explanation. Though Jim doesn't speak sentimentally about beauty or art, this is his true motivation.

Mr. Buck, your comment shows you are more of an idiot that I at first noticed.

Jim gave me his birth time personally during some years where I used to chat with him on the phone. It's not really a big deal, black buck.

"Morality, Thought, and Devotion are closer to the Axis or Trunk of the Cosmic Tree.

Beautiful statement. And true.

Addendum:

Prior to seeing Jim's chart I would have thought that his motivations are things like "the community" (places where people enjoy gathering, an 11th house interests); or "roots" ("places to love," a 4th house interest) Or even economics. ('Misallocation of resources' is one of his favorite phrases, and an 8th house interest.) He does not, in fact, speak sentimentally about beauty. He even focuses, in a seemingly mocking way, on crass things in his paintings like fast-food drivethroughs that mar the visual field. I wouldn't have guessed that "beauty" or "refuge" are his motivations at all. But seeing the chart, I believe it is true. But I would have considered it improbable and was surprised to see it, and by the way what I interpret in it.

Addendum 2:

Further, most astrologers, if asked, would not name the 12th House as associated with architectural beauty. They would more likely name the 2nd (the Taurean house), or the 10th (associated with fame, prestige, prominences), or the 8th (associated with architecture itself and community structures). If an ex-wife of Jim's had told me "Jim's real motivation is beauty," and then I had to draw a speculative chart for him, I would not have chosen the 12th House as the likely place of the Career Ruler. In other words, I found it a surprise and not what could be expected. (This all helps shed light on Big Buck's idiotic whooping and hollering.)

The 12th house relates to the mysterious, other-worldly realms and the more rarefied sensibilities for beauty. It tells me that Jim longs to give something of true beauty to the world in the realm of art, or even music; that he considers his paintings more important than his architectural criticism, and that his architectural criticism became more something that put food on the table. (This is supported by other facts of his chart.)

How did the half Black son turn out? Does he know your views now? Kind of awkward... but I have met Blacks who are realistic about their race. They're rare but refreshing.

It was a very difficult parenting situation. But that was not really his fault. The mother didn't back me up on the authority side, having created a sort of filiocentric family system before I showed up and there was constant battling about who was in charge. It's hard to adopt a kid who is of a different race because the animal parental instinct is not so strong. I found that my own natural children smelled different, and there was some kind of brain reaction to them that was different. Harder still if you missed their baby days and get them when they are high energy and angry. Then worse when daddy's always wrong and the child can do no wrong. You know. It was difficult. His main activity was bucking me, my main activity was trying to establish my authority. Funny though, we always got along well when just we two. With the mother present, there was a triangle thing that went on. He would act differently, I would act differently, and he would play me.

The natural family is best.

To write like a White man, try to avoid unnecessary words. It only makes it look like you are working hard to impress.
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Whites are as guilty of unnecessary words as any other race, color, creed or national origin.

The advice, however, is good and comes most famously from Strunk and White as I mentioned the other day.

Brevity is more important in some kinds of writing than others, e.g. business reports and email. A boss once told me a 5-page proposal analysis I had written was brilliant but I would have to shrink it to one page because there was no one in upper management who would read something that long. I had a secret desire to begin one of my reports like this:

It was an exceptionally warm and humid day when I arrived at the offices of Rockwell Collins (Cedar Rapids, IA) in the undersized rental vehicle mandated by penny-pinchers who drafted Travel Allowance policy for WMD MegaCorp LTD while themselves having never endured the indignities and discomforts of business travel.

The putrid stench from a nearby corn-processing plant that hung in the still air went unrelieved as my tiny Toyota's AC unit promptly died. I was assured by my contacts at RC that I'd get over the nausea, "everyone does, eventually."

The women in this corner of fly-over country appeared to out-weigh their coastal counterparts some 10-15 pounds each on average, their features as bland as a bowl of whipped potatos and clothing styles and other indicators of American culture were a year or two delayed in finding their way to the heartland. But I digress...

David Foster Wallace's magnum opus Infinite Jest runs 1,071 pages and there is not a wasted word in my opinion. Some disagree.

But, yes, there is this tendency a lot of us picked up in school of increasing the word count with a lot of fluff to fill a blue book while imagining that it made us sound brighter than we were.

"Whites are as guilty of unnecessary words as any other race, color, creed or national origin."

Man, where have I heard that difference-erasing affirmation before?

Anyway, ya think? Why can I tell the writing of blacks in seconds? Seems to me they are a bit stronger with it, noticeably so. That contradicts your Craigslist Personals Ads Notice above.

Big Buck's manner of mocking is characteristically black too. Now are you gonna tell me "everybody mocks the same regardless of race, color, creed, or national origin"?

And you didn't cover all the bases. You left out "sexual orientation."

If Jim approves I might continue to talk about his chart, perhaps posting it on some page. People with any fame inevitably get their charts discussed. It's full of goodies and serves as a good teaching vehicle for anybody interested in studying astrology. I think I will mention a fet other factors tonight:

Mercury-sextile-Jupiter.

This means that his natal Mercury is approximately 60 degrees from his natal Jupiter. This spacing, if close to the 60 degrees, is called a sextile.

It can be called a strong one, or a tight sextile, with the Mercury at 27Libra08, and the Jupiter at 24Sag57, or 2.11 degrees from exact. It is considered a fortunate and constructive astrological "aspect" (spacing). (Aspects are rarely exact.)

One can look up years of writings giving the views of various astrologers on this aspect. They would likely say that it is an factor associated with strong verbal ability. (Now Big Buck sez: "Jules! Everybody know he got strong verbal ability!" And I say, "Yes, I know. That's why it's a great example.)

The Mercury-sextile-Jupiter, indeed, would be associated with an energetic verbal nature and an active teaching capacity which Mr. Kunstler obviously demonstrates. With the aspect, the words come easy; they pour out. The "native" (the one with this chart) is strongly inclined to instruct and uplift through words. Because of the nature of Jupiter they are good with humor, and highly opinionated. Jupiter is associated with evangelism in a general sense, so these natives tend to be evangelist for something or other. They speak with a motivation to improve society.

All of the above traits are obvious in Kunstler. Thus his chart is a good learning vehicle.

Information flies to you. One is always finding out many things. Communications devices are rife. (For example, he might have had a computer and email sooner than most.)

There would have likely been some notable, even wonderful, teachers in the life. (Such as in school.)

Now, if one were to find 20-30 other persons, personally known or public persons, having the Mercury-Sextile-Jupiter they will understand it all the better. The aspect will work differently according to the placements of the two planets by house, and their house rulerships. But the things seen above will be generally true.

It is likely that those with this sextile do a lot of "getting around" -- taking of trips in the local area which can include portions of a state. This is because of Mercury's association with local movement and the 'energizing' factor of the Jupiter sextile. My impression over the years is that Jim does get around, whether in his truck, bike, or whatever. We can see this from his painting locations. (Yes, Big Buck, I knew that it was publicly known that Jim does a lot of local travel. That's why he's a handy exhibit for the factor.) This aspect, it could be said, may be the reason that he overcame the bones challenge of a few years back and notwithstanding hip replacement surgery -- still gets around plenty well. Enough to create and manage that enviable garden. Meanwhile, he teaches about it for the upgrade of all.

His Sun-conjunct-Mercury, a different aspect, adds even more to the above traits, giving a strong will expressed through words, a creativity with words, and a showy, a star quality through speech, and a brilliant mind.

His moon conjunct the cusp of Partnership (in the New England area) ensures that he easily attracts women; they come right after him, into his life of their own interest. But the natal Moon-square-Mars ensures there is often tension with them, one trying to remake the other. He would have known more than one Yoko Ono or Dragon Lady. Some of them would have heavy or tense situations with their families, or with family wealth. The placement of the marriage ruler in the house of career usually means that those who get close to him (including a woman) are ambitious, worldly, often have a career, or think a lot about status and prestige. They can be very pretty.

I don't know much about Jim's personal life, but added the latter section for his amusement. All of the above is given based on my own observation and self-learning, including a 25-year practice in which I have interviewed over 7000 clients. I didn't get it from books. You learn astrology by studying life; charts and transits.

Skip to the end...skip to the END!!! Fer the luvva jim, wtftstfizzishit?! A figgin' circle-jerk between Kyoo and the (R)eplacement (I)mpediment, or what? I mean, a couple of exchanges were funny- julian & rhino stepped up to the usual standards for the nation- but jumpin' crippled jaysus fecking christmas in a pear tree, give it a rest already! If I wanted to read a synopsis of Duffy's Reader, well, I would, here's a thoight: READ DUFFY'S READER!!! Anybody even remember what JHK was thinking about on monday? Or have any ideas or suggestions for next week? I know I would like to see our gracious host's take on Elizabeth Warren and her end run around the lobbyists who tried to keep her off of the CPB- which she sorta created...

And speaking of JHK, there's an article about him on zerohedge.com today.

James Howard Kunstler: The Dangers Of The Age Of Delusion
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/16/2013 - 17:52

If Jim approves I might continue to talk about his chart,

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Jim doesn't even know you exist, most likely, and if he did, I'm sure, like any sane person, he would consider what you and others have done to this comments section to be insane. Satirically insane. I find myself scratching my head as to why he allows it. The majority of blogs I've ever viewed are pretty heavily policed, meaning the blog owner and/or the owner's administrative staff keep a close eye out for interlopers like yourself and moderate accordingly. That is not done at CFN, and as a result, a hornet's nest of zealously rabid racists like yourself have created a hive, and set up semi-permanent shop. Why doesn't JHK mitigate the aforementioned as is the case with other blogs? I can think of several reasons. Perhaps JHK's rationale is one of those reasons, or a combination of them, but anyone in their right mind knows that JHK in no way advocates in his writing what is advocated in this comments section by the racist maggots like yourself.

1.) JHK has strongly advocated collapse for many years now. In fact, he was one of the pioneers of this perspective. He knows the comments section is out of control and a joke, but instead of allowing it to consume his time, he leaves it be, and allows it to fester so as to prove to the world at large, that the comments section is reflective of why there will be collapse. The comments section tells the world, "this is the insanity that is America." The conclusion to be drawn by those who may read the filth in the comments section is "no wonder they're collapsing. These people are nuts."

2.) JHK has allowed his comments section to become a psyop, of sorts. Who is running the psyop is an exercise in conjecture, but the purpose of it is to snuff racist quail out of the bush. It's a surreptitious hive meant to attract racist drone bees, so they can be tagged and monitored more effectively and thoroughly.

3.) JHK doesn't give a flip about the comments section. He's too busy with other more noble and constructive endeavors to maintain a rogue comments section. But if this is the case, why the periodic bannings that appear to have no basis, and certainly no explanation? If someone didn't care, there would be no activity whatsoever on their part to end the madness, or in the least, to send some sort of message to the perpetrators that they're being reviewed.

I knew you seemed familiar, Martin. You flew in here like a Knight in shining armor. I'd love to meet you in person one day, Martin. You and me, face to face. In fact, I relish the idea.

Your racism was carefully cloaked at other haunts, but now I can see that it's on full display here.

It's also nice to finally put a face to ulvfugl. It's exactly what I would have imagined. He's hidden himself well, but I had my suspicions. And who is BeingThere on that other board? Kathy C? I think so by virtue of the constant pointing to PCR and Zero Hedge. I figured that about her. That she was a racist.

What does that say about the proprietor of that blog? It says that he's a racist fraud, just like Heinberg.

And Jam, nobody has thrashed or rubbished anyone. What an utter conceit. Their attempts are tantamount to flogging a cement block with wet noodles. A cement block that they've mentally sculpted into various forms; a Feminist, a European woman, a San Francisco cafe Liberal, and a Black man masquerading as all the above.

What it has revealed is how profoundly shallow and insecure these cretins are. They're damaged people, and as Josephine Hart so wisely said, "damaged people are dangerous. They know they can survive." Thankfully the book that spawned that quote made it through the troll-like copy-editors at the publishing company. Had it not, and instead ended up at a cellar like this, it would have been shat upon by the damaged people here like they crap upon everything else. It's all the lot of you know how to do, so empty are your pathetic lives.

Most copy-editors are failed writers. They know this, and they are bitter for it. They take that bitterness out on accomplished and aspiring writers. Their intent is to inflict damage on others since they themselves are damaged. Their goal is to spread their venomous poison because they have broken through the psychological boundaries of decency maintained by taboo. They want to bring everyone to that awful place, to that terrible world from which there is no escape. It's important to know who they are and give them no truck. That's the antidote.

Kyooshtik, you have been crossed off the list as a person for possible redemption. You are damaged beyond all repair. I did give you the benefit of the doubt early on, that maybe, somehow, you were different than all the rest, but you're not. You are as guilty, and actually, more guilty. Aiders and abetters are the worst of offenders, because in addition to their complicity, they are inexorably weak. They lack the requisite decency of character to stand up to cowardly scum. This has been you your entire life. You are a pathetically weak little man, and your grammatical corrections, which I received from you graciously, playfully and constructively, I will now ignore. Your grammatical acumen, if it can be called that, is meaningless in the face of your anemic character. You have no say and influence with me from here on out. You are nothing to me now, just as you are nothing to your wife and children without your pocketbook.

Carol,

Go easy on ol' Q; how will he ever sleep at night knowing he's been crossed off your list? Seriously though, aren't you now taking a page from the pretentious prick who loves to alliterate with P-words? In other words, all of these character trait assumptions, accusations, and projections, well, you might as well be some astrology goof performing fellatio in the 12th house bedroom of your favorite racist.

And besides, it's a smothering sort of sophism. Better to let the spirit of inquiry breathe a little.

Oh, and I enjoyed your prose. And I like reading Vlad, too.

CN,

You remind me of another blogger on this site who we haven't seen for a while.

He saw sock puppets everywhere.
I told him all the world's a stage and all the men and women merely sock puppets.

The racist accusations you make toward certain bloggers on this site are accurate, but now you're generalizing and when you do that, your points lose impact and meaning.

It will be your word that's null and void if you see racism everywhere. I don't get your point about zero hedge or other sites I choose to share with CFN.

You're a free agent, if you don't like those sites, don't check'em out.

And besides, it's a smothering sort of sophism.

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That's true, but sometimes it's good for shits and giggles, and hell, it's Sunday morning afterall. Sunday mornings are all about smothering sophism.

The racist accusations you make toward certain bloggers on this site are accurate, but now you're generalizing and when you do that, your points lose impact and meaning.

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Sophie Scholl didn't mince words with the Nazis. She didn't play games with them and allow herself to be used as their foil, as you are allowing these avowed racists to do with you. You are their set-up. Either you make a firm stand against their garbage, or you lose any credibility and are to be considered in league with them. No side-stepping in a den of racists. You take them head on, or not at all. And if not at all, and you're still here, then you find common ground with them, and if you do, then you are them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqnD_165Ow4

I'll check it out when I return home later, but for now I say that the people I listen to are a mixed bag. I never buy into any one view, but I do glean certain unpopular truths. I've said even to JHK you have to wade through the rubbish to find some prizes.

You are right about racism. It shouldn't be tolerated, esp. as it is expressed sometimes in the most infantile ways on this site.

It's evil even in it's most innocuous form.

As this ship goes down--it will get dangerous.

When you first posted your prose earlier this week I really enjoyed your writing. And I thought it mighty brave to expose yourself artistically as you did. But then you became embroiled in a cyber insult match I cringed because I knew what was coming next: the assault on your artistic soul.

Truth be told, however, you made a target out of yourself. And if you're being really truthful with yourself, all of those mean-spirited criticisms probably hurt. And you as an aspiring writer, or so I assume, might be strategically served to place your work before eyes that prefer to water instead of burn. In other words, your growth is in your own hands; don't take your own tree to the sawmill.Especially after criticizing the trees of others.

And along that vein, Q might be a pedantic grammarian, but he has never once gone for the artistic jugular vein. He has far too much respect for art and the people attempting to create.

"even rip-roaring China in its absurd and spectacular bid to become the latest drive-in utopia."

I have a friend who moved to China and became a translator of English/Chinese. He ended up fascinated with ancient Chinese culture but troubled by modern China. He talks about corruption all the time, unbearable social environments, and physical pollution. Apparently the Chinese have had somewhat less concerns than the white man about pollution of their environment. He has ended up loving the Chinese language and pre-Communist culture but hating the modern Chinese. He believes that the Chinese have the capacity to out-Jew the Jews. (Sorry Jim. Respect!)

"The so-called advanced nations of the world are all sliding toward something less than they wish to be,"

Been happening a long time, of course. I agree that advancement associated with technology is a hoax. The delusion of technological progress is the prime fault of the White man, and bad enough in outcome that it makes us no better than anybody else.

"an imagined elite...

Jim, you believe there are no elites? Or just that there's not one dominant elite? My view would be there are certainly elites, and they also have their factions and battles going on above our heads like the gangs of old Chicago.

"ersatz heroics of avatars such as Dwayne Johnson."

I just looked him up showing off his tattoos. Is this another Fashion Leader inducing white women to destroy themselves bodily and become graffiti wreckage? People who put tattoos on white women should be hanged.

"You can have plenty of economic activity -- especially if you re-form (literally) the systems we depend on, such as farming, commerce, medicine, and transportation...

Jim's a wonderful mixture of monthly apocalypse and hope. It seems that in a messed up society there is a need for apocalyptic prediction. I wonder how people are coping with the failed Mayan end-of-the-world? My guess is that some people are depressed.

"Nobody wants to talk about the system that will have to replace it, which I call a world made by hand.

I secretly wish to be Amish also. (But I would prefer a kind of Vedic-Amish, like a cross between the Hare Krsna followers of Prabhupada who created farms in places like Virginia, and the German Amish.) Yeah, I feel a lot like Jim does. About these things. His new garden shames us all!

"The fortunate few will be those who have already established themselves in an authentic community of helping hands, who have some tools -- and I don't mean Adobe Photoshop or the latest iPhone app -- and laid in some bits of silver and gold."

I agree with this. The return of the ice age will help with this process. Great site: http://www.iceagenow.info. Guns and a supply of ammo will help a few cohesive bands to at least get through the initial stages...

Now for some comments about the highly highly active Urban American anti-racism activists here:

"I'd love to meet you in person one day, Martin. You and me, face to face. In fact, I relish the idea."

This is supposed to be a Nice Liberal White European Anti-Racist Lady flirting with an anonymous male on the internet.

A bit forward, don't you think? Now, when's the last time you heard a real woman on the internet telling an anonymous guy she wanted to meet him?

Racism seems a very sore subject now for the White European lady:

"racist maggots like yourself....a hornet's nest of zealously rabid racists...Your racism was carefully cloaked at other haunts, but now I can see that it's on full display here...I figured that about her. That she was a racist...It says that he's a racist fraud...the purpose of it is to snuff racist quail out of the bush. It's a surreptitious hive meant to attract racist drone bees..."

Phew! She's as sensitive about this as an average, um, Africa American male:

"Most copy-editors are failed writers."

Remember it was he, Carol, who wanted to occupy a niche here of grammar policeman.

"give them no truck."

The European (British? Irish?) lady Carol Newquist is suddenly talking like the slave Jim in Huckleberry Finn.

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What is the difference between "weak" and "inexorably weak"?

And the diff between "decency" and "requisite decency"?

If you will.

And how many times are you going to say "acumen" on one thread?

I agree, these unpopular truths are avoided by the so-called "left" and are mangled and mismanaged by the so-called "right." By ignoring these unpopular topics, we allow the likes of the racist scum here to forge the dialogue surrounding it, and by virtue of that, sealing its fate as a topic that will never be properly, and rigorously discussed and challenged.

Considering that, there is no place for the incessant harping about how Black people speak versus White people. Kyooshtik doesn't stop. What's wrong with a person who comes to a blog for 4.6 years and repeats this racist mantra every other day? That's screwed up. There is something wrong with someone so passionately obsessed with cultural speech patterns unless it's their job as an intellectual scholar to study and publish impartially and objectively about it. And he doesn't even have his history correct. The cultural dialect of many Black people harkens back to their Southern roots, when they were first forcibly brought to the U.S. from Africa. They adopted the dialect of their surroundings. They adopted the dialect of Southern commoners. That dialect came straight from Europe with some minor modifications over the years. So, many Blacks today have maintained a heritage dialect that finds it roots in the European colonization of "America," but Kyooshtik wants to label it inferior. By doing so, he labels his own heritage as inferior, because it's the same heritage. Irony rears its head once again.

Wanda (JCL), I'm no longer reading your bilge, so if it's directed at me, it's in vain. But, that won't stop you. You're all about vanity, and yet you have nothing of which to be proud. You could hold no legitimate audience IRL. The internet has been a Godsend for people like you. It allows you to spread your poison from the holes you've been metaphorically relegated to IRL. You're a Morlock, both figuratively and literally.

Buck, who's artistic jugular did I go after? Kyooshtik has to answer for himself. His entire life he has sided with what he has believed to be power. He's doing it again in this comments section as is to be expected. It becomes a force of habit, like brushing one's teeth.

And you say target? In what way? As I've said, people have pretended that I am something and then attacked that pretense. It's no sweat off my back. It's not me they're attacking. In a sense, it's really themselves that they're attacking, and I serve as a pathway for it. It's a guilty pleasure.

I don't need anyone here to tell me my prose is good. I'm my strongest critic. I know it's good without anyone telling me, but I also know it's good based off of the vitriol that's been directed my way in relation to it, especially that last segment. A good writer can evoke that kind of intensity and passion. I've succeeded. The response from the rogue's gallery was a more honest response than when they give positive acclamation. Had I received the latter, I would have discarded it as insincere. As it stands, Wanda and E have paid me the highest compliment.

"well, you might as well be some astrology goof performing fellatio in the 12th house bedroom of your favorite racist."

Always homosexual visualizations from you. Could you reserve them for some other project somewhere?

Is Vlad/Janos the main thing that attracted you here? You're not up to snuff for this one. The Racial Identity force is strong in him.

"a smothering sort of sophism."

The above is itself smothering sophism.

More Carol Newquist:

but sometimes it's good for shits and giggles,...

Generally speaking, Nice Anti-White White European Ladies don't like saying the s-word much. Neither do they tend to say "hell" much.

and hell, it's Sunday morning afterall. Sunday mornings are all about smothering sophism.

White women of Europe don't set much store by Sundays.

You need to work on your persona direly.

Either you make a firm stand against their garbage, or you lose any credibility and are to be considered in league with them. No side-stepping in a den of racists.

It's an easy choice, BeingThere: Between a couple of Black men who want to abandon their own women to take one more nice White girl out of the gene pool of Time, and a few of your struggling White brothers. I know in time you'll make the right choices. Which of the two would give you money? Let you crash at their place? Protect your daughter and wife with no funny business?

One psyoper does banter with another to guide and assist (Big Stud to Fauxpriss):

"When you first posted your prose earlier this week I really enjoyed your writing."

(Right, right.)

"But then you became embroiled in a cyber insult match I cringed because I knew what was coming next: the assault on your artistic soul. Truth be told, however, you made a target out of yourself.

(Young buck, this big buck says you are messing up.) How does Big Buck know already about the "artistic soul" of little buck? Note: Big Buck is the same one who always lofts homosexual fantasies in this thread upon seeing any male friendship among White men.

...don't take your own tree to the sawmill.Especially after criticizing the trees of others.

This intends to sound like some old American Proverb I guess. An attempt to reestablish some Wise Magic Morgan (Freeman) archetype. Don't take your own tree to the sawmill!

The English Lady shows she is an expert with black American dialects:

"The cultural dialect of many Black people harkens back to their Southern roots, when they were first forcibly brought to the U.S. from Africa."

(When they were sold to American and European travelers by black slavemasters who would have given those slaves a much shorter life, and who traded their slaves to Jewish slave traders later, in great masses, for booze and trinkets. Let's get the memes right.)

"They adopted the dialect of their surroundings. They adopted the dialect of Southern commoners. That dialect came straight from Europe with some minor modifications over the years. So, many Blacks today have maintained a heritage dialect that finds it roots in the European colonization of "America," but Kyooshtik wants to label it inferior. By doing so, he labels his own heritage as inferior, because it's the same heritage. Irony rears its head once again.

The nice anti-racist White Lady of Europe also seems very sensitive about the matter (on behalf of American blacks).

You know, in all my years I never met a White English lady so obsessed with anti-racism on behalf of American blacks. Most English ladies have too much covert ethnic identity to be so brash in such a crusade. And class consciousness is in their blood. I've never heard of even one woman England who presents herself as an expert on American blacks. She's a real strange case.

Irony rears its head once again.

Does a black writer ever write without using the phrase "rear its head"? Seldom seen. (It's as predictable as "if you will.") I seem to recall the first black anti-racist columnist who used the phrase. ('Racism rears its ugly head.') Don't recall his name. All blacks use it since then.

Well, "Carol," you've rumbled me. It is I, the knight in shining armour. It's funny, because when we corresponded privately, I got the impression you were Jewish, and thought of asking you. Good job I didn't, eh? By the way, what's a Jewish guy like you doing in Atlanta?

I rather like you in your new incarnation as Carol, the Grand Inquisitor. You're really good at it, here, as on the other site. Don't worry: I'm disappointed in myself that I'm a wacist, but not nearly as disappointed that my beloved England has been earmarked for destruction, or that my countrymen are doing it to themselves, or that they are doing it by stealth, using the law, the media, and the techniques of social engineering to bring about the abolition of Britain, combining cowardice, as they do, with organised witchhunts against "wacist" dissidents.

I regret now acting precipitously, and breaking off correspondence with you, when your assuming the worst about me (which I now see is a habit with you) and your rococo paranoia became too much, because you are a most interesting fellow. For example, you write: "They're damaged people, and as Josephine Hart so wisely said, 'damaged people are dangerous. They know they can survive.' " There is something deeply troubling about a person who can use such words as a weapon to score cheap points.

"You're all about vanity,

I'm all about honesty. And you're neither a female or white.

It allows you to spread your poison from the holes you've been metaphorically relegated to IRL.

Holes? You're the one posting anonymously. Even triple anonymously as your posing as something completely different than what you are.

Blacks posing as white women who are anti-racialist (shoring up the taboo on Whites having ethnic interests too) and pro-Black are poison.

"...people have pretended that I am something and then attacked that pretense."

You have been pretending that you are a White female who lives in Europe, hates America, is obsessed with blacks, against her own folk, and anti-racist in the conventional way. (The way you'd like all White women to be.)

It's no sweat off my back.

Another American phrase, masculine.

I don't need anyone here to tell me my prose is good.

I'm so sick of "prose."

It's your dishonest trolling here that's under attack. Your obvious African American mannerisms are pointed out as a way to expose you.

Your racism was carefully cloaked at other haunts,

I figured that about her. That she was a racist.

What does that say about the proprietor of that blog? It says that he's a racist fraud, just like Heinberg.
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Get widdit "girl," we all raciss here.

"...people have pretended that I am something and then attacked that pretense."

Your gears are spinning overtime, you man. You are saying that pretenders attacked their own pretense. What does this mean? That they attacked themselves for pretending? Or tried to expose their own pretense (lie)?

So the sentence makes no conceptual sense. I only bring it up because this kind of verbal confusion and misuse is very typical in blacks. Not that I wish to put down blacks. But I do wish to put down dishonest trolls, as well as these trolls' "racism" slur that denies any ethnic interest to White European peoples. (Including in cases where a genuine Carol or Anne uses it mindlessly against her own people.)

Didn't Trotsky, who dreamed lustily of enslaving all the "white niggers" of Russia -- coin the word racism?

('Racism rears its ugly head.')... All blacks use it since then.
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A rather huge exaggeration don't you think, Julian. We require something greater than your assertion as proof.

"You flew in here like a Knight in shining armor."

Really work on your "white female" personality a bit. Real females of Europe no longer use "knight in shining armor" even in a cynical sense, much less a straightforward positive sense. They view an expression that ascribes positive traits, or special power/status, to males as sexist and oppressive. (By around 1970 or so white females might have used it in a wistful, disappointed, cynical sense. Now it's not even in their lexicon. You blacks are way behind the curve in tracking the collapse of White society.)

Your racism was carefully cloaked...

My racial identity is right out in the open. Like yours. Does that put me beyond your knife?

"A rather huge exaggeration don't you think, Julian. We require something greater than your assertion as proof.

You don't read enough writers. I was reading the Rolling Stone and similar lefty publications even so far back that James Kunstler was on staff then. If I had a 100 dollars for every time I've heard a black writer use the phrase "rear it's head" or "rear it's ugly head" -- I could take a long vacation. There is a set of phrases blacks use when engaging white Whites and striving to sound educated: "if you will," "rears its head," and others. Also certain words like "concur." We'll watch the posting and I'm sure more will crop up. James Kunstler, as a phrase maven, would probably agree with me except that he would not want to step into this conversation. The blackness of these posters was screaming at me the first hour that I began reading their posts.

I find myself scratching my head as to why he allows it. The majority of blogs I've ever viewed are pretty heavily policed,
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#1. Moderately perceptive. Jim "leaves it be" (i.e. the blog) because he's busy, has bigger fish to fry, and isn't going to waste money on a monitor... to what benefit?

#2. "... the purpose of it is to snuff racist quail out of the bush."

Should be flush.

#3. "But... why the periodic bannings"
Deliberate bannings are very rare. Rather, they are technical glitches.. unless you believe Jim to be a liar. I have corresponded with Jim 2 or 3 times and he has told me this^. Each time I posted his reply to me verbatim for the readership here. You must have missed it. Once, 2 or 3 years ago, Jim had had it with the author of a grand conspiracy rant and publicly banned him. He seems to have also banned the entity currently known as Mistified some dozen times or so. Misty has an exceptional talent for getting under peoples skin.

Personally, I think Jim is pleased to see the comment count at 500-1000 every week regardless of content. I'm sure it influences the sale and price of advertising on the site.

Gawd – you again. You bore me. You’re dull as dirt; probably an earth sign; a Virgo perhaps?

Take a hint from that great astrological air controller in the sky and scoot along Miller Moth; Gemini’s need to fly, in Mercury trine Neptune time. (Now what I have done, Jules’ will probably write a treatise on astrological influences other than Sun signs.) And besides, don’t you need to do a reading on Heinrich Himmler or somebody similar for your Storm Front admirers?

Be, a shill rings the racism bell and you slaver on cue. What racism do you mean? Even the racism of the Left against Whites? And also the racism of Blacks playing the knock out game against Whites? Oh, you didn't mean that did you. You're not even sure that is racism, are you Be?

But you say It (you haven't a clue what It is but that doesn't stop you) shouldn't be allowed. And tell me again how you are against Goverment thugs in our beds and business? The Left has used Race to destroy America and the West - and you are still down with it, down for the count. Shame. Poorly done, Emma. Big Paltrowesque tears begin to roll down your cheeks like boulders. Demons jostle each other trying to catch them as they fall like pearls to the Earth. The good Earth - until ruined by Man and woMan's sins.

Thanks Kathy C for not defending us and trying to deny your own implicit Racism. If you are White, you are Racist, Kat. If you don't want to be a Racist, you better start spending more time in the tanning boot.

Gawd – you again. You bore me. You’re dull as dirt; probably an earth sign; a Virgo perhaps?

You reckon?

To improve your psy-op I recommend that you get straight which tack you mean to take:

a) The one who knows nothing about astrology. ("Because as I understand it(from my very limited knowledge on the subject)...)

b) A guy conversant with astrology. (This one's obviously used to chatting up White women with stuff like astrology. He knows quite a bit about it notwithstanding his occasional tack (a), or

c) The skeptic, which lets you create a block with white posters who also are skeptics ad get razz team going with these unwitting Whites.

So far you are all over the place and have not been able to stick to one tack. A fake personality needs to be consistent to work.

I don't know about H. Himler. Never studied him. Why do you bring him up?

Stormfront? Haven't posted on there in years. (They are too feminist.) Talk about dull-as-dirt boring cliches, Big Stud.

If I had a 100 dollars for every time I've heard a black writer use the phrase "rear it's head" or "rear it's ugly head" -- I could take a long vacation. There is a set of phrases blacks use when engaging white Whites and striving to sound educated: "if you will," "rears its head," and others.
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But Julian, don't you see that your entire reply is nothing more than re-assertion. How about some empirical evidence. A suggestion: Access the columns of Charles M. Blow from the NY Times archive and using "Edit/Find" see if you can turn up any of these phrases you say ALL black writers use. Then maybe check the writings of Stanley Crouch. Maybe even President Obama. Like my old boss Mot used to scream, "I don't want to know what you THINK, I want proof."

P.S. Is white Whites a way of saying extremely White?

Oh Man, what did you do? Last I saw you two were holding hands and looking into each others eyes with a tryst in the offing. Same thing with Abbey: she called you a kiss and slap kind of guy - all systems were "go" and then she hated you. You must "do or not do" (Yoda) sumthin that makes it all go bad. Is it intentional?

Nigga, be careful. This bitch is crazy.


Janos said:
That being said, it would be interesting to know what if anything there was at the Center of the Galaxy. A Black hole? Or Paradise, Vortavor as the Romulans call it.
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There's virtually no doubt about what's at the center of the Milky Way. It's a massive black hole. Indeed, in "Monster of the Milky Way", a NOVA special, they showed the central black hole eating a small star due to the breakthrough technology of an optics specialist who filtered out the dust and debris so that this event could be seen.

Most galaxies have central black holes. Ours is fairly small weighing in at several million solar masses. There are a couple of galaxies recently discovered that have a central black hole that is 20 BILLION solar masses. That's unusual because that black hole is 40% of the mass of the elliptical galaxy in which it resides. Normally, galactic central black holes weigh only a few tenths of one percent of their host galaxy.

Some galaxies have a BINARY black hole in their center i.e., two supermassive black holes which have not yet merged. Such merging could be responsible for the most powerful phenomenon in the universe ... a GAMMA RAY BURST.

E.


BT said:

We're all in for a nasty ride.
Hope we make it through.
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BT, I live my life under the presumption that life will be "normal" 'til I die. I'm the opposite of a survivalist. Survivalists have the hubris to imagine that they know HOW the brown stuff will hit the fan but nobody really does. Some of them do stuff that doesn't strike one as intuitively correct like living 100 miles from anything. Well, if we go "Mad Max" you don't want to be in the middle of nowhere if "Mad Max" involves disruption of food and fuel supply points.

I like the movie "Deliverance" with Jon Voight and Burt Reynolds. Reynolds is a survivalist and Voight is a pudgy businessman from Atlanta. They go on a weekend trip down a river in the deep South and get "boatjacked" and, lo and behold, it is VOIGHT that thinks on his feet and saves them, not Reynolds the survivalist.

I hope we ride it out, too. I like civilization.

E.


Buck said to Julian:
Simply put, your astrology post revealed you as a buffoon.
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Well, I wouldn't go that far but it certainly took some of the bloom off of the rose.

It's funny how human social interaction, features "side taking" where the expectation is that you agree or disagree with someone ALWAYS. Because I agree with Julian on many issues of ethnicity, I suppose that I'm "expected" to agree with the astrology stuff and also that "Black writing style" obsession he's on.

He keeps telling some posters, some who I admittedly don't like, that they're using Black euphemisms and I just don't see it. Even Janos has fallen into the side-taking trap because he's trying to construct a sort of defense of Julian's astrology nonsense. I think Janos' alliance with Julian is ruling the better angels of his common sense.

It's hard to be an objective person in social discourse because if you're authentic, you'll disagree with EVERYBODY at least some of the time.

E.

Mercury-sextile-Jupiter.

This means that his natal Mercury is approximately 60 degrees from his natal Jupiter. This spacing, if close to the 60 degrees, is called a sextile.
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^This^ and every word that followed it is what the words "hogwash," "balderdash" and "bullshit" were conceived to describe. How can a grown man believe such nonsense? It reminds me of chart analysis, Elliot Wave theory and Fibonacci numbers series used to divine stock market direction. "Head and shoulders tops," "resistance zones," "rising pennant formations," "a 2/3rds Fibonacci retracement," and the old standby "a topside breakout." (When this happens we are to assume the stock, or market, will continue barreling upward.) When the guru is able to hang a name on every line and squiggle he takes on the aura of a market savant.

So today in looking at a Chart Service ad emailed to me I noticed a NEW name for a squiggle. It was called "a breakout and fail." Translation: there was an upside breakout which then promptly went nowhere but sideways. WOW, that's real helpful! Breakouts predict higher prices ahead... except when they don't.

Julian, you have wasted 40 years of your life that might better have been spent reading comic books.


And you're not "damaged"?! That's rich. Every screed you write accuses people of your own sins like extrapolating about cars people own, their behavior with their spouses, or their political affiliations.

You want to be regarded as some sort of "uber-individual" because you write as if you're Nietzsche's "Zarathustra" standing way, way above the madding crowd isolated on a hilltop.

You're an ARTISTE, not an ARTIST. I stand by my description of you as being reminiscent of "salon goers" in ultraliberal cities like SF or Santa Fe. I've actually BEEN to such salons in San Francisco and watched the self-important heathen pose and preen while me and a San Francisco State University math professor just rolled our eyes at each other knowingly. He'd never been invited to these salons in North Beach though it's his neighborhood. I'd been to a few. Needless to say, after a few of them I got bored of observing because I didn't buy into their greatness.

Just as there's a certain sameness to Republican talk show hosts, there's a certain sameness to these little tertiary art collectives in artsy-fartsy cities. They're mutually masturbatory. It's like "I'll agree that you're a great artist if you agree I am". The humorous truth as regards this particular salon in North Beach is that NONE of the central players had ever been anything but SELF published. An irony because the SFSU math prof and myself had both been published in our disciplines.


E.

It's hard to be an objective person in social discourse because if you're authentic, you'll disagree with EVERYBODY at least some of the time.
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^This^ explains the "kiss and slap" remark about me recalled by Vlad.

I attempted to post a few links but site rejected
as 'cut and paste'[I guess]..

If this posts maybe I will post more tomorrow.

The Chinese government is building giant ghost cities in Africa for future colonization:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2168507/Footage-shows-brand-new-Angolan-city-designed-500-000-lying-empty.html
The Chinese are even planning to build a “China City” in the US:

Q. said:
^This^ and every word that followed it is what the words "hogwash," "balderdash" and "bullshit" were conceived to describe. How can a grown man believe such nonsense? It reminds me of chart analysis, Elliot Wave theory and Fibonacci numbers series used to divine stock market direction. "Head and shoulders tops," "resistance zones," "rising pennant formations," "a 2/3rds Fibonacci retracement," and the old standby "a topside breakout." (When this happens we are to assume the stock, or market, will continue barreling upward.) When the guru is able to hang a name on every line and squiggle he takes on the aura of a market savant.
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Amen, brother!! Eugene Fama did a series of studies which experimentally proved that technical analysis, of which Elliott Wave theory is but one example, is absolute nonsense. Indeed, the comical part of that nonsense is that it has one buying stocks that have already "broken through resistance" (meaning they're usually overbought) and selling when they've already finished 80 or 90% of their drop.

Thank you for injecting both levity and good sense into the astrology conversation. I haven't seen ALL of his astrology posts because I'm not going to comb through everything to find them all but I've yet to see him deal with the PRECESSION OF THE EQUINOXES which is THE deal-killer for astrology and its believers.

E.

CN said:
Kyooshtik, you have been crossed off the list as a person for possible redemption. You are damaged beyond all repair.
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English language translation of the above: "Kyooshtik will not validate every expression I make so he's an irredeemable human being." Your ego is every bit as large as anybody else's here, dearie. The difference is that the likely scenario is that your LIFE ACCOMPLISHMENTS are probably a fraction of most.

E.

"The cultural dialect of many Black people harkens back to their Southern roots, when they were first forcibly brought to the U.S. from Africa."

Could that be anyone but Asoka?

Litvinenko was not president of the Ukraine. He worked for the Soviet KGB and the KGB's successor the Russian FSB. He ran afoul the Russian PTB when he publicly accused the FSB of plotting to murder a Russian oligarch. He fled to the UK, was granted asylum there, went to work for MI6, wrote books where he made various other accusations. He was killed with a dose of radioactive substance which UK investigators traced back to Russia.

This Litvinenko guy puzzles me. As a former KGB/FSB man he would have known what nasty stuff those people are capable of. You know, like with the witness protection program where people that testify against such organizations like the Sicilian Mafia and the Italian Camorra adopt new identities. These former witnesses have to be exceedingly careful the rest of their lives because it's not as if the Mafia/Camorra MIGHT kill them, they most surely WILL. If they catch up with them that is. The same goes for the KGB/FSB. As Litvinenko found out. I mean, who did he think he was fucking with? And, let's not forget, Putin is a former KGB man.

So IMO what he should have done was to adopt a new identity and been careful. And then if he wanted to work for MI6 he could still have done so. Secrecy, after all, and deception and misdirection are the spy's stock in trade. So, do what spies do, fight the good fight but lie low, don't draw attention to yourself, do maximum damage in service of your cause and don't throw away your life unnecessarily.

I'll give him credit, he had balls like churchbells. But maybe not so strong in the brains dept. Because the way I see it, this death was unnecessary.

Damn I just pissed myself laughing. Did I read it right? Because I thought Carol compared herself to Sophie Scholl. Hilarious. Of all people. Who's next? Aung San Suu Kyi?

Damn I just pissed myself

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Of course you did. It's what you do. It's who you are. You've never made it out of diapers. Now, go back and do as your told, as you've done your entire life. You're a disgrace to the concept of personal sovereignty, selling yourself so cheaply for a dream that is just that, a dream and nothing more, and an occasional pat on the head from your masters after they've finished sodomizing you for the thousandth time. You have no place to be smug. You haven't earned that right. Not until you've taken a stand for once in your life are you worthy of the privilege of being smug. Your confidence is false. It's contrived. It's a smokescreen to obscure the reflection of a fragile and broken man who can't hold his bladder. You're over. You're done. You never started. You were suckered, and you did the job for them. You made it easy for them. Like a good sled dog. Mush.

"^This^ and every word that followed it is what the words "hogwash," "balderdash" and "bullshit" were conceived to describe. How can a grown man believe such nonsense?

So you've studied a number of people with the natal Mercury-sextile-Jupiter and found that they were not noticeably verbal?

After you have known at least 10 people with the natal Mercury-sextile-Jupiter, then you are qualified to opine on these topics. There will be no need in your lifetime to find a plausible theory of how astrology could work, while yet enjoying the amazement of astrology. A scientific person studies the phenomenon itself, first. He does not need to be pre-provided with a plausible theory of "how" it could be. Meanwhile, all such theories of how/why, even in hard science, are always changing anyway.

Your attitude is emotional, not scientific.

BT said to Carol:
You are right about racism. It shouldn't be tolerated, esp. as it is expressed sometimes in the most infantile ways on this site.
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Oh, LB, I knew that we couldn't avoid butting heads over this issue at some point so THIS might as well be that "point".

I second Janos' commentary i.e., of WHICH "racism" are you speaking? Do you deny that racism, as used in liberal discourse, is ONLY the dislike of Blacks and Jews by Whites? Show me ONE race or tribal claque that "loves" all the other races/claques. Just ONE. I want to see how you squirm out of the pat liberal definition of "racism".

I've certainly witnessed the ethnocentrism of Jews at Washington University in St. Louis which is about 70% Jewish. The only women in my life who wouldn't go out with me because I was a WASP were a couple of Jewish coeds at "Wash U". Seriously!! I never returned this "favor" to the Jewish community because after my Wash U experience I dated two Jewish women over the course of my lifetime. After all, a refined person must acknowledge that individual idiosyncrasy can rise above collective pathology.

When will you acknowledge that racism is the inherently natural suspicion and distrust that ALL peoples have for each other. However, not all distrust has an equal foundation. To illustrate this point sardonically, I ask you, rhetorically, when the last time was that you took a nice walk in a ghetto after dark?


E.

"Julian, you have wasted 40 years of your life that might better have been spent reading comic books."

You figure? But I get $250.00 for 30 minutes of talk, at least once a day, because I am a results-oriented astrologer.

How can you know if something's a waste if you know nothing about it, fool? I'll bet you do read comic books. (Probably video games as well.)

Stay on topics you know something about.

E and Wanda are cut from the same cloth. E, I'm not reading the toe cheese you're smearing on the screen any longer. It's recycled strawmen, and really is of no value to anyone. It won't stop you, I'm sure. If you feel compelled to continue addressing me to score points in your game of Solitaire, go right on ahead. I'm sure you will.

I will say this. I find it unfathomable that you were a college professor. You are incapable of teaching anyone. The only thing you're good at is regurgitating racist diatribes. If you were still teaching, I'd be inclined to attend one of your lectures and make your life a living hell. I feel for all those naive students who had to cross your troll bridge to get to the other side. They had to suffer your narcissistic psychopathy to obtain a diploma. No doubt, you took full advantage of that power to abuse many of them.

What's that have to do with gelfite?
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First YOU must thank me for the "refresh" button advice and let me know if it worked... then I'll consider a response to the (misspelled) "gelfite" fish question.

He keeps telling some posters,

The number is exactly two; two who work in concert and have the same writing characteristics and attitudes.

"that they're using Black euphemisms"

I have not stated anybody uses "black euphemisms," but figures of speech that are typical to blacks. If you don't see them you have not spent enough years reading or hearing the speech of blacks.

"...he's trying to construct a sort of defense of Julian's astrology nonsense.

It's probably that he's too much of an intelligent and honest white man to attack a thing he has never studied himself.

Rhino said:
This Litvinenko guy puzzles me. As a former KGB/FSB man he would have known what nasty stuff those people are capable of.
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Like the USA isn't capable of covert ops of the nastiest sort imaginable!! Litvinenko was a failing writer in England so he tried to extort several Russian officials for $10,000 a pop. The West tried to make a hero out of this guy and, well, he just didn't even come close to measuring up. You may have noticed that after his death, you don't even hear the guy's name come up anymore. He WAS a true traitor to Russia and he got snuffed. It's not like the USA and Britain haven't done this to traitors.

E.

Are you this naive? It had nothing to do with the refresh button. He gets confused which sockpuppet he has pulled up, so he does a test post with a letter to make sure it's the one he thinks it is so he's not out of character. In otherwords, he wouldn't want to act like myrtlemay when posting as Janos.

Or maybe that's just my "rococo" paranoia acting up again. The same paranoia that flushed out the lesbian feminist's husband.

P.S. Is white Whites a way of saying extremely White?

That was a typo. The intention was "with whites." Wasn't that obvious. Don't be niggardly with your typo tolerance.


It's not "solitaire" as your recent post shows YOU'RE STILL PLAYING. That such a simple truth should evade your cerebrations proves my point that you are an "illogician" of the highest magnitude.

If you REALLY wanting to show me that you didn't want to dance anymore, you'd simply IGNORE my posts but they GET to you, don't they Carol. As we close out our dialog, I note that you haven't quoted a FACT in a single one of your posts ... and not just the ones directed at me!!

Thus, the supreme egotist here is YOU. I dignify the arguments of my worst e