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     Meet the new third party in national politics: Reality.
     Reality is the only party with an agenda consistent with what is actually happening in the world. Reality doesn't need to drum up dollar donations from anyone. Reality doesn't have to pander to any interest group or subscribe to any inane belief system. Reality doesn't even need your vote. Reality will be the winner of the 2012 election no matter what the ballot returns appear to say about the bids of Barack Obama and Mitt Romney to lead the executive branch of the government.
     In the vicious vacuum that national party politics has become, the Republicans and Democrats are already dead. They choked to death on the toxic fumes of their own excreta. They are empty, hollow institutions animated only by the parasites that feed on and squirm over the residue of decomposing tissue within the dissolving membranes of their legitimacy. Think of the fabled Koch brothers as botfly larvae and the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association PAC (SIFMA PAC) as a mass of writhing maggots.
     These are desperate days in the republic. Between the two empty spectacles of the official party nominating conventions, a terrible nausea rises in the collective gorge of the swindled body politic. The putative contest of ideas is a dumbshow in a hall of mirrors. None of it avails to reduce, mitigate, or even acknowledge, the tensions that may tear this country apart, in particular the web of fraud that shrouds all the operations of money and banking - which is to say: the fate of everything the nation thinks it has invested in itself and its future. In the USA of 2012, anything goes and nothing matters. Reality has a different view of where this all ends and how it will work out.
     Compare and contrast the platforms of the Republicans and Democrats with the Reality Party:
     The two major parties both propose that the colossal machine of everyday life in America can not only run indefinitely, but continue expanding, and include ever more member people who trade ever more schwag. All that is required, they say, is twiddling the settings of the machine, to get it back to running smoothly as it did in the good old days before the mystifying crash of 2008. They disagree slightly on which dials to twiddle. Reality knows we have entered along-term compressive economic contraction; that there is no way we can persist in the current living arrangement; and that the necessary outcome to avoid immense human suffering can be described as the downscaling and re-localizing of everything we do.
     The two major parties regard the rule of law as optional, especially in money matters. Neither party has any will to interfere with a broad array of financial rackets that range from the blatant manipulation of markets, interest rates, and currencies to computerized front-running thievery, traffic in booby-trapped derivatives and counterfeit shorts, pervasive accounting fraud, channel stuffing, irregularities in central bank bullion leasing, flagrant confiscation of private accounts, municipal bond-rigging flimflams, "private equity" looting operations, offshore banking dodges, and untold other scams, rip-offs, and cons that have crippled the basic functions of finance, namely: price discovery, currency as a reliable store of value, and the allocation of surplus wealth for productive purpose. Reality knows that the absence of the rule of law is suicidal. Reality is incapable of pretending that it doesn't matter. Reality provides work-arounds for intractably dishonest political arrangements: civil war and revolution. Both are invoked out of extreme desperation and have unpredictable outcomes. Like Reality itself, they are what they are.
     The two major parties pretend that so-called "entitlement" programs can be simultaneously reformed, improved, and abolished - that is, you can have your cake and eat it (with ice cream) at the same time you throw it in the garbage. Reality rejects this incoherent juggling act and proposes that Americans better just make other arrangements for old age, routine medical care, and daily bread. This implies cultural as much as economic transformation and it will occur emergently no matter what empty promises anyone makes. People who want to get food at regular intervals will have to find some way to make themselves useful to others. Medicine will return to the local clinic model and doctors will have to find another motivation for practice besides the acquisition of German automobiles. Old people will have to prevail upon their offspring for care and protection, and they will be expected to play a useful role in the household or community in return if they are able-bodied.
     The two major parties both proclaim that the USA is verging on "energy independence." Both parties are lying. Reality knows that the shale oil "game changer" is a mirage. By 2014, the "sweet spots" of the Bakken will deplete faster than new wells can be drilled, and the impairments of banking will constrict the supply of capital investment for that hypothetical future drilling. All the deregulation in the world will not alter the fact that future oil is expensive, exists in places where it is hard to work, and entails unappetizing geopolitical contingencies. Reality favors letting go of automobile-based living and the adoption of walkable communities connected by inland waterways and railroads. 
      The two major parties believe that the foreign wars are good for business as long as you can minimize the casualties on our side and keep war news off the TV. Reality knows that war as currently practiced by the US Military is a failure if 1.) you can't control the terrain in the foreign theater of operations, and 2.) you can't control the behavior of the foreign population. Notice that we can't do either of those things in Afghanistan or the sundry other places where the US military might be found today. The two major parties also favor the application of war-time "security" operations on the US public inside our borders - i.e. spying, data harvesting, monitoring of cell phone and bank records., et cetera - contrary to what US law and the constitution says. Reality believes that, if the rule of law remains optional, the time will come when American government officials who authorized these activities may be dragged from their command centers and hanged from traffic signals by a citizenry pushed too far. 
     Mitt Romney and Barack Obama would label Reality a "terrorist movement" if they could and seek to blow it up with predator drones. But Reality is harder to stamp out than truth, which can be shouted down, papered over, fudged, outlawed, etch-a-sketched, exiled, and reviled. Reality is everywhere. It lurks inside and outside the doors of the phony-baloney convention vaudeville shows in its cloak of invisibility, ready to work its hoodoo on the feckless, the fatuous, and the wicked. Reality is America's last best hope. Join the Reality Party.
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The irony of celebrating a day devoted to Labor when so many folks are un- or underemployed. Not sure it matters as we slide back into serfdom.

While I agree broadly with JHK here, it's still a bit too America-centric a view.

I've a feeling that Reality will thunder down upon us in the form of an Israeli-Iranian war that goes regional, if not global.

Then goodbye $4 gasoline and our tepid economic recovery. Goodbye, avoiding "shared sacrifice."

The D's and R's are just subsidiaries of the same sole political party in America: The Money Party.

Been that way for awhile now.

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Good post, JHK

There's no choice but to sign up on the reality party, only very few in this country seem to identify what reality is to their detriment.
I remember something Mike Ruppert said in his movie, "Collapse". (paraphrased) That there's no debate (re peak oil) there's only reality--can't argue with that. Thomas Friedman seems to think we have hundreds of years of oil.
I don't understand by what scale could anyone say how much oil the world needs in that given time to even make the statement.

In the meantime we are being robbed and told to look at superficial social agendas, instead, lest we might get angry at the real criminals and the leadership who are the extention.

I finally can say Mitt Romney is the real deal---He's a real kleptocrat!---Check out Matt Taibbi's article about how Bain made it's fortune on the Rolling Stone site of 8/31.

This week we can rant and rail about Obama's complicity in the system....hint, he's no "other" he's an insider like all the rest you don't have a choice in electing.

Yep, they ALL make money the old fashioned way...

Great post, but with all due respect James, the two parties (Isn't that a curious term as well? I think we should force the two bastards to incorporate and go by their proper names - Dems Inc. - Repubs Inc.) know that modern day "reality" here in the Artificial States of America is entirely manipulated, and that they're largely the ones doing it. Rest assured reality will indeed intrude very soon. Question is, will any of the Smart Phone Sheep, caught up in the cosmic wonders of their Electronic Life Control Devices (ELCDs), even bother to notice? I doubt it.

Quite simply, an excellent post!! I read your posts regularly, and although I enjoy all of them, this one really sums it up, and in a compelling image: The Reality Party. We don't even have to "sign up" for the Reality Party, we're (all) already in it.

Reality rejects this incoherent juggling act and proposes that Americans better just make other arrangements for old age, routine medical care, and daily bread.

Careful ... all the Enlightened Progressives who come here to blather on about the Koch brothers and NASCAR are most assuredly not ready to hear that the entitlement gravy train can't go on forever. They and Reality have not yet even met, much less become friends.

Awesome post, Jim. Thank you.

Your Reality Party reminds me very much of Dmitry Orlov's Collapse Party: Dedicated solely to the acknowledgement and management of the undeniable contraction around us.

http://www.energybulletin.net/node/42234

Best Post Ever!!

Thank You Mr. Kunstler...

Comparing the Democrats with the Republicans may at times seem like comparing Syphilis and Gonorrhea, but the vote this tine is really important. The winner will probably get to choose 2 or 3 more Supreme Court Justices in the next term. With Citizen's United we already are witnessing the damage that a 5 to 4 conservative majority will do.

Now imagine a 6 to 3 or a 7 to 2 conservative majority, with younger conservatives with tea party leanings nominated and confirmed. Baby boomers can pretty much expect to see a conservative Supreme Court making bad decisions such as Citizens United for the rest of their lives.

Given this one aspect Jim, its rather irresponsible to say or imply that one's vote doesn't matter. It certainly does matter! The reality of a potential 7 to 2 conservative balance on the Supreme Court is a reality that we cannot afford! I for one will vote for Obama and am urging everyone else to do otherwise. There is a huge difference in just this one important aspect.

Lots of ugly flowers here. But the most important line is that truth can be defeated; reality cannot.

Lots of ugly flowers here. But the most important line is that truth can be defeated; reality cannot.

Now Michael, as an enlightened progressive I'm well aware that the gravy train can't go on forever. That's why we need to ensure a liberal majority on the Supreme Court and fleece the insurance companies and the one percenters. They've got enough money under their mattresses to give the rest of us $1.50 a gallon gas and free iPads forever.

The worst are the filthy climate deniers. Why, just now, I've got a load of bed sheets in the clothes dryer that could be using electricity generated from renewables but instead those filthy deniers are forcing the use of coal. My neighbor (a typical filthy denier) suggests that I hang the sheets in the sun but I tell him "that's no the point, you filthy Koch-lovin' anti-science Neanderthal" But he still doesn't get it. Some people refuse to evolve.

" the time will come when American government officials who authorized these activities may be dragged from their command centers and hanged from traffic signals by a citizenry pushed too far."


There are a lot of traffic signals in America.


U.S.A. Nation of Nothing and Serial Nobodies.

AMERICA, RIP.

ps: I DO NOT Crary.

The spectre of the major parties trying to buy enough votes to get to 50%+1 in enough states to garner 270 electoral votes reminds me of Rhett Butler playing cards with his captors as the Confederacy collapsed around his ears. Get what you can, now, in something that has value, post-collapse, and don't concern yourself too much with oaths made to a dying political order.

Jim, here's a metaphor that can accompany your maggot/botfly imagery: Archipelago Man, from Matt Taibbi's recent article about Romney.

Here's a link to an article with an excerpt and the relevant links: http://occupymba.com/2012/09/02/archipelago-man/

I figured you'd be disgusted with the infomercials that the major party conventions have become for the viewers (and the excuse for a party that they always have been for the participants). The problem is that, as Richard Heinberg said in "The End of Suburbia," reality is bad for business. Right now, I doubt that anyone could describe reality as you have and be elected. The majority of voters won't stand for it. As you have said multiple times, they'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future.

Also, I bet you're disappointed that there weren't many protests at the GOP convention. The police outnumbered protesters 4 to 1. I think you'll suffer less disappointment this week in Charlotte. There will be a march on "Wall Street South," if nothing else. As for the Chicago 1968 style chaos in the streets you have been calling for, don't bet on it. Everyone is too busy reading about Snooki having her baby.

I will say one thing that you might appreciate. Annabel Park, founder of the Coffee Party, watched the GOP convention and had the terrifying feeling that she now knew what it felt like to live in Weimar Germany. I posted the link to your "We're Weimar now" entry from 2010 in response to her Facebook status. She "liked" it. Looks like you're getting through.

I've blogged about the conventions already over at Crazy Eddie's Motie News. In particular, my entry about Eastwooding earned more page views than any other entry posted last month. It turns out that his stunt with the chair made a perfect metaphor for what the Republicans have been doing to Obama all along--engaging with the Obama of their imaginations, not the real person in the White House. I also poked fun at political insanity in "The way of the (political) k00k."

As for the rest of the week, I've been writing about gas prices, climate, local politics, the Coffee Party, and science crime scenes.

Happy Motoring--for now--from Detroit!

http://crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/

I'm going to be passing on that bit of wisdom and crediting it, of course, to Jim:

"Reality is harder to stamp out than truth, which can be shouted down, papered over, fudged, outlawed, etch-a-sketched, exiled and reviled...reality is everywhere."

And reality is going to hit us like a ton of bricks one of these days soon.

My neighbor (a typical filthy denier) suggests that I hang the sheets in the sun


There's nothing more eco-friendly than sun drying on the line. Why wouldn't you do it?

Seems like a huge disconnect, you want electricity generated from renewables....the sun is renewable and pollution-free, yet...you WANT more, and then call your NEIGHBOR filthy?

peace peaceniks

Notice how the one enlightened progressive went straight for the supreme court argument. The USSC is an oligarchy. Whoever is given the license to loot in Nov. will then stuff the oligarchy with his out of touch legal oligarchs, but as JHK states reality awaits.

Reality in this case is a state telling the Feds to stuff it either on abortion restrictions, immigration enforcement or the big kahuna the left trumpets against the "common enemy"(this is code for white men) gun control.

The USSC is about out of useful mythos and their role as Oracle of DC is about kaput.

Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it, as the character in a novel by the late Thomas Disch remarked.

And Reality presents an array of real problems that must be dealt with as we move into a lower energy future. Check out our latest adaptations at my permaculture/energy descent blog:

http://smallbatchgarden.blogspot.com/

Sign me up, Jim!!
Tripp out.

The EP went for the nazi card several posts above. This is what immature white libkids do with their lives.

Stupid white libs engaging in race hate incitement, nothing could go wrong there.

American government officials who authorized these activities may be dragged from their command centers and hanged from traffic signals by a citizenry pushed too far."


Yet another rehash of one of JHK's failed predictions. No violence at the conventions. No lynching of anyone.

Stop expending your precious energies on national-level politics, and take care of yourself at the household-neighbor-community level. Eff the rest.


We planted 120 banana trees, an acre of cassava root, and are harvesting phenomenal avocados here in Brazil, all organically.

We live very close to family and everyone helps out financially and watching elders, propping up family members who're a bit weaker than the rest.

Kind of like the old U S and A peoples did before the country died around 1980.


peace peaceniks

Regarding your description of the major parties as "empty, hollow institutions animated only by the parasites that feed on and squirm over the residue of decomposing tissue within the dissolving membranes of their legitimacy," I think you're onto something, but you may have the wrong metaphor. Think of something much more sinister.

As I tell my liberal friends who keep thinking that the GOP should be dead by now, the GOP as a traditional party engaged in electoral politics is already dead. What it is now, as described by "EscapefromWisconsin" over at the Hipcrime Vocab, is an authoritarian movement. That makes it an undead party in a democratic system. As Bela Lugosi's Dracula said in the eponymous movie, "There are far worse things awaiting Man than Death." Yeah, and one of them has happened to the GOP.

Here are the big problems with the Reality Party: uncomfortable, damned inconvenient, uncertain, and it offers no control enabling one to exploit the world for one's own personal gain.

So how long has it been since "jimmy carter?"

"reality" simply can't get elected.......

The "status grow" continues to suffocate, stymie and smother the slightest evidence of reality.

It's the "blind new world" we will live in - even as our civilization falls and our safety and comforts are torn from most of us.

Nice rant JK - but the chasm between the "powerful 1%" and the people has miles to grow before reality ever rears its eventually all powerful wand.....

How long has it been since jimmy carter?

When I look at the national conventions, I'm reminded that our two-party system gives us one more choice than North Koreans have. And about as much difference.

If an actual Reality Party were to be formed, there would soon be an election of officers, bylaws for the conduct of meetings, a platform, membership dues, a culture of smug self-satisfaction, and members who vigorously push for negotiations and compromise with the Hope Party. Ha ha.

The problem with any party and this would also include a "Reality Party" is that people will join it. Which means, in the case of the Reality Party, alter and manipulate. It's baked into the human condition, the proclivity to alter and manipulate, speaking of yet another reality. Besides, paradox also exists in the domain of reality, illuminating that tragic, impotent spectacle currently known as the partisan voter.
(I'm beginning to sense that "reality" is, in fact, the original hall of mirrors.)

The real problem is not with the incumbents,or political parties; it’s with the voters themselves. Too many voters, in their zest to be politically aware and active, have drawn political lines in the partisan sand and in doing so undermined the power of their voting influence. A dyed-in-the-wool partisan is counted as an in-the-bag-chump- at the end of the voting day. No need to sweat and work for that vote; they’ll vote for their party regardless.

The power of the vote, and its ability to wield real influence, resides in assuming an undefined, allusive status. From a post-structuralist perspective, this amounts to a voter retaining “unmarked" status in the Derridean, semiotic sense of the term. The “marked” political pair of Democrat and Republican, bring more information and certainty to the political table and in doing so diminish the power of their influence. The unmarked voter, in slipping past delineated status and into the position of greater generality assumes a station of implicit power due to the very uncertainty of a political leaning, one way or another.

Since reality also contains mystery, the voting public ironically empowers itself the more uncommitted it remains. The reality of power and influence in this case is not militant, angry fists waving in the air, but allusive intentions enveloped in the mist of uncertainty. In short, the Way Of Water.

Like any person of verifiable sanity I want to agree with JHK’s ideas, unfortunately I feel that, human nature being what it is, they will join the library of wisheconomics and wishpolitics that litter our history.
Anyone able to add up our past will be fully aware of the disaster of our future. We built a world economy on the single finite resource of hydrocarbon energy, and because we all want it to go on into infinity, we collectively believe anyone who reassures us that it can. The alternative is just too awful to contemplate so we reject it out of hand.
We know the politicians are lying, and will go on accepting their lies so long as pumps still deliver gas, switches deliver power and supermarkets are full of food. While that lasts, we ‘have nothing to worry about’.
We will not alter our ways until that situation changes in a visual and literal sense. When it does, the reaction will be instant and violent because life itself will be at risk; every species has evolved to fight for its life by every means at its disposal, humanity will not act differently, but unlike any other species we have the weapons to take us into self destruction. Even on a domestic scale, America has 300 million guns in private hands. Warfare has always been about resources, taking it to a world scale I leave to the imagination of the reader.
The insurrection exploding across the Middle East is basically the result of food costs and unemployment; when America reaches the same tipping point (and it will), all that will seem like backyard target practice.
As to ‘community living’, that really does take us into the realm of fantasy. Take medicine as an example: does JHK really expect to call on a local doctor who has no backup other than his medical knowledge and a community clinic? A doctor today is supported by the colossal infrastructure of an industrial complex, just like everybody else. Without that he can no more cure what ails you that a doctor of a century (or more) ago. A hospital is one of the biggest energy sinks there is, we keep people alive by buzzing and whirring machines that soak up power, and by good people who expect to get paid. Let’s not mince words here folks, you can only ‘downsize’ illness by letting sick people die.
http://www.yourmedievalfuture.com/

Michael wrote:

"Careful ... all the Enlightened Progressives who come here to blather on about the Koch brothers and NASCAR are most assuredly not ready to hear that the entitlement gravy train can't go on forever."

I hate both the Koch Sprawl-barons and the NASCAR doofus-spectacle. But a real Southerner prefers figure-eight racing with lots of wrecks...seriously. NASCAR is sissy.

As a Progressive, I do take issue with painting us all that way, Michael. Let's face it: America's entitlement programs are bloated. You cannot subsidize every life-preserving treatment under Medicare.

I wish that long ago we'd taken another road: basic health care, as in preventative medicine, for all citizens. For those who choose to smoke and overeat...they get less and less as time goes on, or at least have to pay into the system more.

But we didn't take that route and we have the mess that no Progressive or Conservative should tolerate. It's a waste of taxpayer money...not that it will matter much in a few years. We just took the wrong road after WW II.

"Entitlement, I want you to meet Reality."
He is sick of you. He is tired of your sloth, stupididty, obesity, digital autism, worship of celebrity, tatoos, pieces of metal sticking out of your face and most of all, the money you waste on all this crap. So have another Bud-Light, Rx drug of choice, another hit, another line, another video game, whatever, because you are about to receive a face down beating. If you survive and want to help out down the road...good! If not, please find a hole to crawl into and die.

I for one will vote for Obama and am urging everyone else to do otherwise.
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Well, that makes a lot of sense.

A most excellent screed, Senor Kunstlerio!
(If you've been to modern Meh-hee-ko, you know the profound depths that cynicism can reach in a populace abused near to death by their oligarchy/kleptocracy.)

Many of us have already been forced into the Reality Party, simply by witnessing the Great Crumbling. Those who have not yet "joined", resist with all their might and main. False hopes and wishful thinking, disguised by intellectual dishonesty, political nit-picking and stretches of techno-triumphalism that haven't the COMMONS' capital to back them up are the hiding places of the denialists that constantly infect this place.

Now, of course, I'll get slammed for that and placed directly in the doomer-porn dumpster. I wish there were a last laugh to have; I'd be having it, but there's nothing remotely funny about the way this collapse is going to come down, specifically BECAUSE false hope is slathered over every goddamned thing in reach and sight by all of the terrified clingers. Slam away, slammers, the only one needs convincing that "things change" with infuriating regularity is yourselves.

This certainly doesn't mean reality is going to conform to MY expectations either. (As dale points out, there are just FAR too many factors to make any precise calculations.) But I think my general version will be a lot closer to the way things shake out soon.

And what will that mean? I'm psychologically prepared to face privations. You decide whether that's good thing, or if I'm just barricading myself [mentally] in the bunker of a blinkered outlook. I really no longer care if anyone thinks I've "ossified"; I happen to be quite a bit more flexible and adaptable than their analysis might suggest, and that's what I think will be a decisive attribute in the fast-approaching "tormenta".

Please be advised:
At this juncture in time and the short blip of human history, withdrawing your consent and denying the legitimacy of our overlords is a revolutionary act in itself.

"...Consent of the governed..."

I smell desperation in the air; this happy mask of governmental can-do, solidarity and power projection is beginning to slip and the worm-eaten skull of death by authoritarianism is being glimpsed from time to time by close observers.

magnificent, simply magnificent! I believe this is as clear and simple as you can be in laying out the state of the world today - and it was done without the usual hyperbolic language. Mr. Kuntsler is not saying that this state of affairs needs to be organized into a Reality Party; he's simply saying that this is what's is happening and will continue to happen, so we had best get on with a rational approach without waiting for it to fall on our heads. Good advice and it's all anyone can do, along with making our own financial and social preparations. I know you won't like this, but if I may be so bold, God bless you for this, James.

You state the problem well...but as for the solution. Reality is not a Party, rather what remains after the illusions are shattered. There is nothing to join and much to leave behind.

We need to walk away, remove our support and attention from the Parties (and the corporations that own them) to the extent that is feasible in our lives. If they force us to fight, so be it; otherwise ignore them, their "system", and their services. Don't listen to their media, don't do business with them unless you have no alternative, and don't ask them for anything.

Perhaps though, instead of a Party, we could have a limited life organization to promote something like a "12 step program" for those having trouble recovering from their addiction to the illusions?

I liked your post and agree with the latter part of the content.

In the opening, I was very surprised to see you in the raiments of the literalist! There is not (nor will there be) any Reality Party. It's simply the place we're plunked when all the bullshit is torn away.

Right on.....and good post JHK

I love it when JHK is on form.

A few more observations about reinvinting daily life:

Artists will need to speak to and make themselvs accissible to entire communities, not just the kewl subset. No one is going to want to look at ugly passing itself off as incisive social commentary or listen to self-indulgent posturing pretending to be music. Check out the following for a look at what is possible WITHOUT our wonderful modern technology.
http://digital.library.pitt.edu/c/chartres/

Not a trace of post-modern "irony" to be seen here, no obligatory "niceness", the famous profit motive nowhere to be found, and it has stood with only minor repairs for over 800 years.

The vast, expensive and disfunctional education racket is also on its way out. Teachers will need to resign themselves to imparting practical AND intellectual skills to ALL their students in a local small achool setting, where they may be being partly paid in kind. There is no further need for administrators earning, you should excuse the expression, 6 figure salaries, nor for the incompentent sycophants who staff school offices.

*sigh*

It is so hard to write good irony...and alas I am a poor writer.

I suppose I should have finished with /sarc/. You'd think, after all these years, someone would come up with a ligitimate html sarc tag.

Elections in America are pretty easy to control:
A grotesque amount of cash to throw at two parties over an endless campaign season and voting on an often rainy (or snowy)Tuesday in November.

Many countries in(northern) Europe operate on a different model, multiple and diverse parties with defined limits on spending and campaign seasons, two day voting over a weekend.

Yes, I guess its cheaper to buy off 2 parties than 22.

Menawhile at the DNC:
this is via Citizenjournalist:

At the Democratic National Convention (DNC) in Charlotte, they will have pictures of such American icons as the Statue of Liberty and Mount Rushmore.
Apparently President Obama has such a high opinion of himself that there is also a sand sculpture of him, erected at the DNC at the EpiCentre entertainment complex, seemingly in imitation of Mount Rushmore.

It consists of 15 tons of sand trucked in from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

and 'the Jumah event':

They decide to scrub their site of the Jumah event!
The DNC at first championed the event but later removed the event from the DNC Charlotte website. Islamaphobics!

Yes, what is stronger than Water? What is stronger than a person who doesn't give their power away? That you can't take for granted? That will leave if their spouse gets abusive or stops taking care of themselves? Who always knows where the door is?

The Founders were against political parties: they feared that loyalty to the Party would become a substitute for the Good of the Country. That obviously has happened.

Failing that high ideal, we should go to the opposite and have a plurality of parties representing many points of view. Nothing is worse than the One Eternal Party which masquerades as Two. As Chesterton said, Progressives keep making mistakes and Conservatives conserve the mistakes the Progressives have made - and pretend the new Normal is Normal if not the old Normal.

Jimmy smiling that smile and saying My name is Jimmy Carter and I'm running for President - over and over again - was the low point of American Politics. Things can never get that bad again at least not in that way.

The difference between the Dems and the Repubs is the difference between turning a blind eye to reality and actively working toward a fantastic, ultra-right, authoritarian, Dominionist regime bent on taking the country back to an imagined nostalgialand that looks like the 19th Century, except with the Bible joining the Constitution as a supporting legal document.

That distinction, subtle though it may be, is enough for me.

While we still have some semblance of democracy, I know how I'm going to vote. Chances are 1 in 100 that it will make any difference in the long run, but that's better than zero.

We absolutely need a Reality Party. But we don't have one yet. We might be able to build one with Dems in power; with the Republikooks, we will be pushed yet closer toward a reality the Taliban would approve of as a good start, in form if not content.

The Arctic ice cap is likely to go within the next few years, and when it does, the weather will change abruptly and forever. The weather we saw last March, when it was 80 degrees at night on the Canadian border, is a mild foretaste of the erratic and volatile future of the jet stream. When agriculture fails on a global scale, when the US corn crop is 10% of its customary yield rather than the 87% it is this year, when half the livestock has been culled in a single year for lack of fodder, and Sonic burgers aren't available at any price, the Jesus people, seeing the disappearance of the ice cap as a portent from their God, will do His imagined bidding, Old Testament style. The overlap between this set of people and the Agenda-21, 2nd-Amendment-solution set is almost 100%. Their worldview is based on a delusion impervious to fact and by corollary, reason. Whoever is in office will be in a position to resist or support.

Obama, an overtime quarter. Romney, game over.

http://www.achangeintheweather.com/

The Federal Bureacracy has to be shrunk to all but nothing. All your friends are going to be put out of work - that's what JHK is saying whether he knows it or not. And all those welfare people are going to be shit out of luck. What do you think they'll do Be? Die quietly? You better get out of New York before it's too late and they block off Manhattan from the rest of the city.

anti,

Now for the REST OF THE STORY.

the sculpture of Obama was done BY the Myrtle Beach Visitor's Bureau. Here is a comment with an article reference that yo missed.

"First, Obama didn’t commission this, the Myrtle Beach Visitor’s Bureau did this without the DNC’s permission – they also did it for the South Carolina Republican Debate in Jan 2012. Second, this proves this website has absolutely ZERO journalistic integrity, because it was very easy to find the flip side via a simple search. If you want the truth, it ain’t here."

http://www.myrtlebeach.com/blog/post/gop-presidential-debate-massive-sand-sculpture-welcomes-candidates-to-myrtl/

Of course since you wanted to believe that it was Obama who did it, you neglected to look any farther. It looks like citizenjournalistdotorg is almost af fair and unbalanced as Faux News.


A little Ice Age would end the nascent World Civilization - and Western Civilization so called. These aren't bad things. A few degrees colder is all it would take.

Global Warming is a gradual process that can be adapted to over time. Amazing that people don't realize which is worse. And we have a long way to go before we have to worry: in was far warmer at various time in the past. During Roman times, grapes were grown and wine produced in Northern England. Far warmer than today.

The World is cooling now for the last 12 or 15 years. I know it seems to be heating, but that's just your local experience. You have to look at the whole world statistically, methodically, and scientifically. Sorry.

Sorry, JHK and Ep, among others, but multiculturalism always was a fraud and it has now run its course. "Historic injustice" does not excuse the attitudes of mow and blow guys who expect to plug their noisy and polluting power equipment into my power outlet in order to perform tasks which I can and do do better myself with hand tools only. I think in future migrants, including internal migrants, will be welcome in proportion to value they bring with them.

Also, the marking off of turfs, of publicly paid for streets and sidewalks, may be a trend that is on its way out. A close relative of mine lives in a multicultural neighborhood, the residents of which can't stand old white female me, but my relative cannot afford to exclude me because my contribution to her household, and I am not talking about cash here, from cooking to garden produce to mending to tutoring is simpy not replaceable from within the neighborhood.

The silver lining, on a personal level at least, may be that people with skills and the willingness to use and impart them, will be respected and valued regardless of their looks, personality, pedigree, or wealth and social status.

Thanks for the education, but I'm sticking with NASA, NOAA, the National Snow and Ice Data center, and the National Academy of Sciences on this one.

Right on Jim! I am a member of the Reality Party myself....have been for quite a few years now. It's hard to get the regular folk out there to recognize the party or even accept the platform. But they will in due time...whether they want to or not.

I'd personally recommend to people to get on board the reality train sooner rather than later. You may actually get a half way decent seat instead of being dragged down the tracks after it runs you over.

Jim, I just finished the Failure of Party Politics chapter of Too Much Magic this morning, this blog post was a nice follow on to that.

Have a nice day everyone.

The true reality is that the world is on a collision course with the promised return of the Lord & Savior Jesus Christ. We should be on our knees asking the Lord God for peace and mercy. Only through seeking God will we be able to find peace & strength to get through the ugly days that are just around the corner. No political structure will be able to save us, only the loving Lord Jesus Christ can bring us that peace. The world is going to collapse. And the time will come when every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord of all. Some will do it with great joy and others will do it with great sadness & shame. Seek not a politcal or man-made solution to our every-growing worldly troubles. Seek the Lord Jesus and pray for his peace and mercy.

I'd rather be on my knees digging in my garden and growing some food than asking some invisible guy in the sky for mercy. Mother Nature and her bounty will get me through the days to come, and her beauty will provide me with the peace and srength to get through the ugliness. You are truly delusional if you believe all that stuff you are spouting.

The problem:

The two major parties both propose that the colossal machine of everyday life in America can not only run indefinitely, but continue expanding, and include ever more member people who trade ever more schwag.

Their solution:

Mitt Romney and Barack Obama would label Reality a "terrorist movement" if they could and seek to blow it up with predator drones.

Americas best hope:

The CRP (Canine Reality Party)

✔ K-Dog


All Dogs Eat.

Yes !!

And you won't be as hungry as the guy with the sore throat praying to the invisible man in the sky either.

This is the major statement from JHK, for this year, for our times. The question is: What now? What will we, the readers, in the comfort of armchairs, do about it?

The next step would be a gathering of recognized leaders, held publicly, and producing an agreed upon list of grievances, formally presented somehow.

Is this the stumbling block, that JHK as well as the rest of us have grown too accustomed to speaking with only our own voice?

Now what kind of party would include both JHK and Gerald Celente? I mention Celente because I know JHK doesn't like him. (I love them both.)

Well Hamilton and Jefferson didn't like each other either, but they sat at the same table.

The "Reality Party". It's a good enough name.

Afro American trash chttp://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=11256ulture has gone global - even among Jihadists. Vide well little brothers, vide well.

So you think a few degress warmer will be less catastrophic than a few degees colder? Care to try and argue that? Good luck.

Again I mean globally. A few degrees warmer might mean drier in some places - which could be locally catasrophic.

Thanks for your insights, James. Check out this meme (taken from my band Brother K's video "Payroll") that emblematizes the consequences of denying reality. Feel free to add your own captions! http://qkme.me/3qqv9b

video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tCNUJJQd3g

How ironic that my TV is on the Bravo channel which a airing a show called Real Housewives. Boy when the real reality arrives these beauties will be in a tough spot.
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The common people were living like serfs while whatever wealth and labour that could be extracted from them was used by the church to build this edifice for the 1%. Sorry, I'm not impressed even if it did last for 800 years.

Well sorry to you too, but the world is actually warming, and not just in my "local experience" I don't live anywhere near those polar icecaps that are currently melting. Obviously you just don't want to believe it.

Vlad,

Would you post the source of your cooling claim? then we can evaluate the validity of the data.

Yet you are here reading it?
There is an element of choir preaching to this blog, but there is also comfort in knowing that there are disparate peoples out there that do see the future for what it is.
I have 6 acres and no mule, and recently I made another greenhouse (my climate isnt Amazonian....).
I am forming a collective of sorts in the area I live.
The point is Kunstler is on the money most of the time and the other GLARING fact is there isnt any such thing as endless growth.
Endless growth is a lie.
There is this thing in nature called entropy, it is beyond a reality and we are well passed its sell by date.
It is waiting for us.

Reality bites as they say. Anyway, one of Jim's better posts. It asks us to view a bigger picture of what's going on. I live in the rust belt, specifically Michigan. Reality has hit many of us hard as manufacturing has moved overseas. Here, we still are making cars but not so many as the "good ole days." Still, America retains some ability to make things such as automobiles. As a thought experiment...imagine if there was no American auto industry. Would foreign cars stay so cheap? My guess is they wouldn't. They would not have to undercut us and could charge higher prices.

Now that I re-read my last post, it seems narrow-minded and not seeing the bigger picture. I do get that energy shortages are a game changer for all no matter who we are competing with.

Having been alive during WW2 I saw the federal government take charge and run a tight ship to defeat the enemy in less that 4 years. It can do it again tho' the sun belt cowboys may need to be neutralized.

I think the reality party needs to do a reach out to individuals who just can't tie together the issues of overpopulation, resource depletion and government encroachment. Some need consequences shown to them using only the limited vocabulary they have. For example, a bumper sticker applied to their car saying,"Save a terrorist, abolish abortion" might cause them to think a bit. Perhaps those who forget to tip at valet parking during the next major RNC event could get a sticker applied to their car for free!

Back in the 90’s I read a lot of Soviet history, it was like a verbal train wreck. The Soviets had their own psychology (radical psychology) their own genetics, as well as several other theories in conflict with accepted science and common sense….most of it utterly self destructive.

At the time I thought it was unique to totalitarianism, and felt complacent that we were living in a country where such rubbish couldn’t flower, much less flourish. Now as I survey the current level of debate and “coverage” in the media, it’s clear that we are not so different after all. We ignore the real issues and blather on about American “exceptionalism”…..absolute bunk. I could go about the many areas this is true, but JHK did a pretty good job fleshing it out.

So we continue to pretend that our problems are all about insufficient access to education, or pat ourselves on the back for “gay rights” (Democratic) or “too much regulation” or not enough of the “good ol’ days” (Republican), but it should be obvious to any thinking person that this is the thinnest of smoke screens to distract us from the corporate takeover and corruption of our economic and political systems.

As is always the case, those who don’t learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

A good movie for Reality Partisans: "The Age of Stupid."

Helen, the world is indeed warming, there's no doubt about that, but Vlad POSSIBLY might be correct, but in the reverse order. As our planet warms and the Arctic ice cap melts, all that fresh water lowers the ocean's salinity and could cause the Atlantic's conveyor belt, which brings us warm Gulf water, to turn off, which would result in a big drop in average temperature along much of the Eastern seaboard and Europe.

Whew! Sorry for the complicated description. The result would be colder and snowier winters in northeast America into Canada and in Western Europe. This would appear to be counterintuitve because the Earth's average temperature would be rising at the same time.

Some climatologists say that if enough additional snowfall occurs, it could increase reflection of sunlight off the snow to the point where the Earth would rapidly cool into an ice age.

I wouldn't start researching how to build igloos just yet, but I just wanted to clarify (hopefully) it isn't farfetched that global warming COULD bring on an ice age.

If The corporate takeover which you so aptly bring up actually resulted in mankind's betterment, I could possibly condone it on the grounds of the means justifying the end.

However, TPTB have grossly messed up the world by bad decisions and bad-priority-setting. We've now reached the point where even technophiles like myself begin to worry.

Vlad,

Global cooling is also a slow process.

However, when we are talking about climate, 10 to 15 years is a very short time.

If you look at any graph of average temperatures you will see many ups and downs of 10 to 25 years.

Climate is a chaotic system, so a few years is insignificant, even if it is true.

Some of us have joined the Reality Party years ago. It is slow going. This take a lot of time and effort. If you haven't joined by now, all you got to hope for is luck.

I have been working at this and still need luck myself.

So the Reality Party can also have a tiller stalk termed, "Hoping for Luck" Party.

It all the Sun dude. The Sun and the Earth are in a complicated duet or dance. The Sun (male) leads. If he takes a nap the Earth goes into an ice age - mini or major. We are due for a major btw - for millions of years the patter has been the same: ten thousand years of good weather followed by a hundred thousand of ice. How many civilizations have risen and then been crushed under the ice? Our 10,000 is over - we had our shot. If we were still the country that put Buzz and Neal on the moon, then we could manage it, even keep our cities going under the ice. But that's no longer possible.

Warming causes an increase in carbon dioxide, not vice versa.

Ice and Tree cores show the ice age conditions can develop within a decade or so. Then that cools the earth more and the ice age conditions move soutwards.

"and untold other scams, rip-offs, and cons"

I think you covered all the bases there Jimbo. You would be writing into next week if you listed them all.

But I do believe the current power structure turns your outcome scenario upside down: It's us they plan to hang from the street lights.

Vlad,

"Warming causes an increase in carbon dioxide, not vice versa. "

I guess it is just a coincidence that during the time that CO2 and other greenhouse gasses have been rising, that humans have dug up and burned billions of tons of fossil fuels, increased the area of rice paddies, raised more cattle, and denuded huge amounts of forest. Humans have also invented and created a large number of synthetic greenhouse gasses, some that will stay in the atmosphere for 50,000 years.

How much will you take in trade for a used slinky.

the world is on a collision course with the promised return of the Lord & Savior Jesus Christ.

Collision? It will be the most joyful day in all of history! Everyone will be saved because Jesus and the triune God ("he's three, three, three gods in One!) equals infinite Love. As 1 Timothy, Chapter 4, Verse 10 says:

For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers. -- 1 Tim. 4:10

Who is the "savior of all men" … ALL ... Nobody gets left behind. ALL ARE SAVED BY JESUS, believers and unbelievers alike! Halelujah!

The Buddha affirms the same thing, in a different way, in saying that all beings will come to nirvana, that none of the conditioned states are permanent.

India’s ancient Hindu Brahma Sutras say the same thing, “All beings will eventually become Brahman,” or DIVINE REALITY, “because there is only Brahman.”

In the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna also says the same thing, which Jesus copied much later, in promising universal salvation for all beings.

Quantum physicists have confirmed the truth of these non-dual views of Jesus, Krishna, and Buddha.

So, with this blissful outcome for all guaranteed, there’s a sense that peak oil, resource depletion, overpopulation, the banking crisis, etc. … everything we consider to be REALITY … is all perfect … an amazing Divine Comedy, in which we have our joyful participation.

This Divine Comedy is the REALITY PARTY to which I belong. It is the REALITY PARTY I celebrate.

The real REALITY PARTY is based on the fact:

duality, or separation is an illusion

The supposed separation between science and religion, between the observer and the observed, etc.) is an illusion. The Eastern mystics have long recognized the REALITY of non-duality and Western science has more recently come to understand it through quantum mechanics.

The statement “we are all one,” is not reality in some abstract sense; it is REALITY at the deepest level of existence.

I doubt JHK has a clue about REALITY as described by ancient mystics and contemporary quantum physicists.

The REALITY of NON-DUALITY is GOOD NEWS ... not a collision.

Matt Taibbi's cover story on Romney in the September 13th issue of "Rolling Stone" is excellent. I bought a copy of the magazine while I was out buying earthquake supplies this morning. These tremors we've been having in L.A. are getting stronger and stronger. 3 the past month and a 1/2. Last night's was the strongest, people are starting to scream out loud. Epicenter: Beverly Hills. Haha, karma. Like Jim said, reality will win...eventually....and Mother Nature's the boss.

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JHK great post and I agree that the leadership does not want reality,but my fellow blue collar folks and even my fellow peak oil,prep guys and gals go crazy if one of their cherished slogans of prep or peak oil is challenged with evidence based information,but I guess we can read JHK and live a life of less China made junk, good day I have off to get my flu shot and use fluoride to brush my teeth. Thats reality too!!!

Only through seeking God will we be able to find peace & strength to get through the ugly days that are just around the corner.

Yeah, but 'seeking God' means WHATEVER THE HELL 'believers' WANT it to mean. DO NOT you SEE that‽

There is such thing as relativity, i.e. what may be true for you may be untrue for me (relative to me). DO NOT you understand that?

Use your blanged head man!!

And what is YOUR relative definition of 'just around the corner', with regard to the ugly days approaching? Is it 2 years?

If you were honest - which you're not, because you hide behind undefined phrases that expand and contract to mean whatever the hell the utterers want them to mean - you would admit you're merely a well-trained parrot.

Tell me, how long is 'JUST AROUND THE CORNER'? I want to know. The world wants to know. We're waiting 2,000 years now. Is 'just around the corner' 23,000 years? A month or two? TELL US or SHUT UP and admit you simply do not know.


peace peaceniks

All progressives should march down to the DNC convention site in Charlotte, and make sure that you carry a 1) water bottle, and 2) a marker of any type. Both will get you labelled as a terrorist.
Great object lesson.
Same thing happened at the RNC.
Anyone recall 1968? Naaaaaaaa!
Whose on dancing with the stars?
What's Lindsay Lohan doing? These things are important. Someone needs to check it out and get back with us.

Wardoc

I hope you admit that global cooling is more deadly than global warming. And that global warming (be it true of false) even if it started off sincerely (which I question), soon became a political juggernaut with out whole civilization hanging in the balance, and corporations ready to jostle for the reduced spoils.

Needless to say all kinds of shenanigans ensued such as U.N cherry picking Reports and the emails between Global Warming High Priests on how to fudge the data. And even religious overtones were beging to be heard - such as doubters being called "deniers". Luckily the whistle blowing emails and a number of high level defections have taken the wind out of your sails. Some scientists smelled the rat early - as soon as they saw the UN report and immediately repudiated the whole thing. Shame on you for being affiliated with something so disrepuatable.

I admit that many ice caps have shrunk. I question whether that is continuing now. I don't have the same certitude on this issue as I do on Race and Social Policy. There is some possibility that I could be wrong about the physical facts or their interpretation - but not about the corrupt movement that associated with these facts.

I believe the carbon dioxide levels were higher at various points in the past well before industrialization - unless the lost civilizations I alluded to caused them. Some civilizations may have been pre-human. Intelligent dinosaurs? Bronto burgers anyone?

Quantum phyics has nothing to do with the Brahman or Nirvana or God. You silly dancing Wu Li Massa you.

Now thats funny.
I need some humor, returned from the beach.
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Radu, how much ink do you wear?

Welcome, tell us more about yr farm/garden.

2 of yr sources are Supkis and Coast to Coast radio, yes?
Elaine says the south pole is getting more ice?
I dont care much, as its way beyond my control.


Your pseudo-spiritual jibber-jabber is a monument to dilettantism. You know a soupcon about a lot but not much, in depth about anything.

By the way, I'm waiting for my apology about your denigration of my intelligence of a CORRECT use of the word HYPOTHECATE. If you thought you'd evade the embarrassment because of a new thread for the week ... you'd be wrong.


E.

Without a doubt this is the best writing I have read from JHK in the past seven years I have been reading his ranting screeds. Among the sparkling verbal jewels I appreciate are:

"Reality knows we have entered along-term compressive economic contraction; that there is no way we can persist in the current living arrangement; and that the necessary outcome to avoid immense human suffering can be described as the downscaling and re-localizing of everything we do."

"Reality knows that the absence of the rule of law is suicidal. Reality is incapable of pretending that it doesn't matter. Reality provides work-arounds for intractably dishonest political arrangements: civil war and revolution."

"People who want to get food at regular intervals will have to find some way to make themselves useful to others."

"Old people will have to prevail upon their offspring for care and protection, and they will be expected to play a useful role in the household or community in return if they are able-bodied."

"Reality favors letting go of automobile-based living and the adoption of walkable communities connected by inland waterways and railroads."

"Reality knows that war as currently practiced by the US Military is a failure if 1.) you can't control the terrain in the foreign theater of operations, and 2.) you can't control the behavior of the foreign population."

"Reality is harder to stamp out than truth, which can be shouted down, papered over, fudged, outlawed, etch-a-sketched, exiled, and reviled. Reality is everywhere. It lurks inside and outside the doors of the phony-baloney convention vaudeville shows in its cloak of invisibility, ready to work its hoodoo on the feckless, the fatuous, and the wicked."

Finally, I also appreciate your mostly losing the vulgar and obscene and the ostentatious and needlessly complicated language as well as the toilet or barnyard allusions that often detract from my enjoyment of your otherwise excellent writing.

Vlad, the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad explains Time as the condition of universal mind which alone makes the ordering of the universe in Space possible, as does physicist David Bohm in his book, Wholeness and the Implicate Order.

Bohm explains, in the language of physics, that Brahman would be infinite creativity in a resting or seemingly non-vibratory state, realized as Emptiness or Void.

As energy moves toward an infinite state, its wave frequency increases. The amplitude or vertical distance between wave crests becomes smaller and smaller until the points of rest overlap, turning the oscillating wave into a straight line.

In this manner, infinite energy may be realized as utter stillness or a zero point, precisely as the sages have said. Bohm obtained laboratory evidence of this phenomenon by proving the existence of wave lengths as small as 10 -34.

His calculations indicate that one cubic centimeter of this Zero Point energy contains more power than all of the matter in the known universe.

Bohm's work with Zero Point energy is extremely helpful in understanding the metaphysical nature of the universe, especially the process by which the Absolute or Brahman becomes manifest in Time and Space.

SOURCES:

UPANISHADS, ŚAṄKARĀCĀRYA, & MADHAVANANDA. (1950). The Brihadaranyaka upanishad. Mayavati, Advaita Ashrama.

BOHM, D. (1981). Wholeness and the implicate order. London, Routledge & Kegan Paul.

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Thanks, Welles, for busting some retard chops around here today! Enjoyed reading about your horticultural escapades of late. An acre of cassava? Wow.

Eleuthero, you doubling down on HYPOTECATE?

OK, you asked for it. It does not mean hypothesize. Look at the etymology:

HYPOTHECATE
transitive verb -cat•ed; -cat•ing [Medieval Latin hypothecare to pledge, from Late Latin hypotheca pledge, from Greek hypothēkē, from hypotithenai to put under, deposit as a pledge] (1681) : to pledge as security without delivery of title or possession. — hy•poth•e•ca•tion pronunciation \-ˌpä-thə-ˈkā-shən\ noun — hy•poth•e•ca•tor pronunciation \-ˈpä-thə-ˌkā-tər\ noun.
SOURCE: Merriam-Webster Copyright © 2004 by Merriam-Webster

Or look at contemporary dictionaries of English:

HYPOTHECATE
To pledge (personal property or a ship) as security for a debt without transferring possession or title.
SOURCE: Collins English Dictionary. 2000.

HYPOTHECATE
1 to pledge (property) by law as security for a debt.
2 to commit (tax revenue) from a specific source to a specific purpose, e.g. revenue from road tax to road improvements hypothecation /-ʹkaysh(ə)n/ noun [Latin hypothecat-, hypothecare to give as a pledge].
SOURCE: The Penguin English Dictionary. 2007

HYPOTHECATE
To pledge securities as collateral for a loan without giving up ownership of the securities.
SOURCE: Wall Street Words. 2003

PLEDGING
Pledge and hypothecate are synonymous, as they do not involve transfer of title. assign, although commonly used interchangeably with pledge and hypothecate
SOURCE: Dictionary of Finance and Investment Terms. 2006

HYPOTHECATE
verb: (hypothecated, hypothecating) law to place or assign as security under an arrangement; to mortgage.
SOURCE: Chambers 21st Century Dictionary. 2001

Can you cite one source (other than the 1906 Merriam-Webster) that says hypothecate means hypothesize?

Put up or shut up, E.
The literature is against you.


Eleuthero said: "You know a soupcon about a lot..."

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Eleuthero, it is customary when using French words like soupçon, that you use the proper spelling, which is soupçon not soupcon. The French c needs a cedilla under it, and I'm sure you can figure out how to do it correctly, having taught computer science.

Soupcon is not English or French. It is simply nonsense, meaningless, much like your persistence in this meaningless exchange.

However, with each post you sow doubt about having been "Teacher of the Year."

Ok that makes some sense: you are using the Language of Physics as a symbol of Meditative Experience. It's not the same kind of knowledge since one is direct and one is mediated thru the senses and intellect. But as a symbol it works.

CORRECTION

Eleuthero, you doubling down on HYPOTHECATE?

OK, you asked for it. It does not mean hypothesize. Look at the etymology:

Thank you, Vlad, for understanding sufficiently to make a coherent reply.

Wow, James, great article. I've been thinking for some time that our two-headed zombie parties lost touch with Reality a long time ago. Also, I'd like to address some good prior comments.

1) BeingThere's 9:25am comment got me to read Matt Taibbi's mind-blowing article in the 9-13 issue of Rolling Stone (Greed & Debt: The True Story of Romney & Bain Capital). Prior to reading this, I was prepared to vote Libertarian, even though they do not live in Reality either. Now, I believe that Romney is EVIL and realize that he must be defeated, so it's Obama by default.

2) I can't agree with cbwim's 9:50am Supreme Court comments. While I think the conservative justices (not evil like Romney) at least try to base their decisions on our flawed Constitution, I can't say the same for the four liberal hacks (it's a shame that 3 are women). Seems like they vote in lockstep and totally follow the Dem party line. How did things get so out-of-whack that the Pres' most important decisions (outside of starting illegal wars) are his Court picks? We are stuck in 21st Century America with an obsolete gov't structure designed for an agrarian 18th Century. In other words, we're royally screwed. BTW, your first sentence comparng the D/R monopoly parties with venereal disease was priceless!

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The Big Bang Theory in particular is similar to Hindu idea of Bindu or creation point of all potential - mythologically portrayed as the Golden Egg or Hiranyagarbha. Or the Kether in Kabbalah. Physics has a similar concept but again the similarities stop at the physical since that is where physics ends. But the Traditions teach higher and prior levels of creation.

The Universe is an upside down Tree with the roots uneen, lost in the heavens. Thus it's good to meditate on still water where you can see the reflections of upside down trees.

No, but I'm glad to have them on my side. I actually meant to say glaciers not ice caps. I did hear about an expedition that went to Antartica to measure the ice cap melting - they were forced to abort their mission due to extreme cold and blizzards.

Vlad, there were some scientific papers in the early 1970s about global cooling and a coming ice age. But that was not the general consensus, although some modern writers perpetuate the myth of the 1970s global cooling scientific consensus.

In July 1979 in Woods Hole, Massachusetts, Juie
Charney, one ofthe pioneers of climate modeling,
brought together a panel of experts under the U.S.
National Research Council to sort out the state of
the science.

The panel's work has become iconic as a foundation for the enterprise of climate change study that followed. Such reports are a traditional approach within the United States for eliciting expert views on scientific questions of political and public policy importance.

In this case, the panel concluded that the potential damage from greenhouse gases was real and should not he ignored. The potential for cooling, the threat of aerosols, or the possibility of an ice age shows up nowhere in the report. Warming from douhled CO, of 1.5°-4.5''C was possible, the panel reported.

While there were huge uncertainties, Verner Suomi,
chairman of the National Research Council's Climate Research Board, wrote in the report's foreword that he believed there was enough evidence to support action:

"A wait-and-see policy may mean waiting until it is too late." Clearly, if a national report in the 1970s advocates urgent action to address global warming, then the scientific consensus of the 1970s was not global cooling.

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Thanks Jim for an other dose of reality... You keep us focused!

Another blog we all read did not want me to say that the convention held first was like a 50's farce..
"honey is ArmErica broke"
"Darling it is almost too far gone, but I reckon I can fix it"
So the Latter Day Canute should be elected!!
We would then be entertained by his inability to turn the tide of reality!!!!




Burlesque Group NYC by Mark Mann at SPiN Toronto


Scottish photographer Mark Mann captured some of NYC’s most alluring burlesque dancers for his tassels series, and ArtStar fred perry shirt, the online contemporary art store, is launching a series of 4 new prints in celebration. From ArtStar:Mark documented the burlesque dancers of New York City with his 1940s Graflex Super D camera, producing powerfuly sensual images that evoke the storied art and history of burlesque. Mark’s portraits have been included in several coffee table books and have been exhibited at the New Museum. Recently, he has taken his Graflex Project to Union Square and Gawker and next will be traveling to Mexico City where he will documents the characters of?lucha libre .The launch event takes place at?SPiN Toronto on September 9 during the Toronto International Film Festival.SPiN Toronto461 King Street WestToronto, Canada burlesque group NYCMark MannSpin Toronto Fancy Related Posts





adidas Originals by David Beckham & J. Bond Supersaddle 80s


--> No. 01 / 07 Browse Gallery In addition to the Forest Hills Mid DB and ZX800 updates for the Fall/Winter 2011 season, David Beckham and James Bond (of Undefeated) also worked on the Supersaddle 80s. Casual, sporty and refined, the Beckham Supersaddle 80s sneakers take on the cold with canvas and suede uppers, leather sockliners, sandwich mesh tongues trx suspension training, and leather laces. Available August 2011 at select adidas Originals accounts. adidas originalsdavid beckhamjames bondSneakers Fancy Related Posts August 30, 2012 Nike Air Force 1 Foamposite Low Holiday 2012 August 29, 2012 Starks x Vans OTW Woessner August 29, 2012 Jordan Son of Mars ��Bordeaux�� August 29, 2012 Vans OTW x Primitive Blvd Denim Bedford





Atmos F/W ’07 Wool Knit Wear


Japanese store Atmos now released under their in-store label a small wool knit wear collection. The collection consists of a knit jacket which comes in two colorways. Also they released some neck warmers in several colorways and also some scarfs. With the colder months just around the corner, knitwear is something nice to consider used trx for sale! atmosjacketknit wearneck warmerscarfstokyowool Fancy Related Posts August 13, 2012 atmos x Nike Free Powerlines+ ‘Rainbow’ June 28, 2012 atmos x Clarks Sportswear Tawyer Mid June 25, 2012 adidas Originals for atmos Superstar 80s G-SNK V Pack May 6, 2012 atmos x Lacoste Ingaro





Robert Holden’s “The Treehouse”


--> --> No. 01 / 12 Browse Gallery The Treehouse, photographs by Robert Holden, is an urban intervention project running now through May 31, 2011 in DUMBO, New York. Large scale photographs have been placed throughout the area providing a journey through space and ideas.Holden’s artist statement -Who and where are the questions I don?t wish to answer.In fact I don?t have any answers: just a camera.I don?t seek utopia: there are people who are able to be in harmony with themselves, with the other and with nature.People who choose to live differently and manage to find fulfillment by carrying an existence where their highest values are not monetizable.I want to share a bit of that.I use a subjective documentary approach; I report on reality but create a personal narrative.The Treehouse is more than one place. It?s not on the map but can be found.More of the project follows on after the jump. photographyrobert holden Fancy Related Posts August 22 fred perry, 2012 Elroy Shoots: Milena August 22, 2012 Odd Future Live at Huxleys Neue Welt in Berlin August 21, 2012 Amber Heard by Terry Richardson Photo Shoot August 18, 2012 Gray Malin Aerial Photography Series ‘A La Plage’





Nike x Michael Lau Pro Figures Charity Sale


One set of the Nike Pro Figures created by Michael Lau will be sold on 23rd of July at Sold Out. It will be a special set of 20″ figures all signed by the athletes and the artist. The figure set is otherwise not available to the general public. The set will be sold for 3’500 Euros and 100% of the proceeds will go to charity – the Arc-en-Ciel organization, an organization that helps young children with physical difficulties so they can play sports. Designer Toysfedererkobemichael launikepro figuresronaldhinotoys Fancy Related Posts August 31, 2012 Nike Free Run+ 2 Suede Pack August 31 trx on sale, 2012 Nike Roshe Run ‘Shorebreak’ August 31, 2012 Nike Free Inneva Woven NRG – A Detailed Look August 30, 2012 Nike Air Force 1 Foamposite Low Holiday 2012





Rogue Status Holiday 2008 Accessories


No. 01 / 02 Browse Gallery Rogue Status has until now mostly stuck to clothing, introducing other product categories usually with strong collaborations. As part of their Holiday 2008 collection, they present a small series of accessories fred perry pas cher, including wallets and more. The pieces come in two colorways and feature the instantly recognizable gunshow pattern.Chicago’s St. Alfred has the accessories in stock now.More images follow after the jump. rogue statuswallets Fancy Related Posts August 20, 2012 Head Porter Leather Wing Tip Series August 15, 2012 Buyer’s Guide: 9 New Wallets Available Now August 10, 2012 Phenomenon x Porter Fall/Winter 2012 Accessories Collection August 10, 2012 Stussy x Jam Home Made Brown Leather Accessories


Another great column by JHK but flawed for a single reason -- the reality is that there is a VAST difference between the GOP and the Democrats. Matt Romney has been called a vulture capitalist, a leverage buyout specialist, a hostile takeover guy who practices "Bust-Outs" like the Mafia used to (see Rolling Stones latest issue). Robot Romney is also busy hiding his tax returns from the Public and hiding his income in off shore accounts from the IRS. None of these are good.

The Tea Baggers are avoiding reality because they don't like what America has become. Its got gay marriage, abortions, uppity negroes, the US Post Office and birth control which does NOT please them. Creepy, old Tea Baggers want us all to go back to 1912 because they can no longer have sex and it bugs the hell out of them that others can WITHOUT the risk of unwanted pregnancy. Its makes them vindictive so they suggest putting an aspirin between your knees to prevent pregnancy! Because if Clint Eastwood is too senile to get any action then you shouldn't either!

So when you tell yourself there's no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans then frankly YOU are no longer dealing with reality.


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A.P.C. x Nike All Court White/Black


No. 01 / 03 Browse Gallery A.P.C. continues to work with Nike on the All Court. For Fall/Winter 2009 the low top sneaker comes in a white/black canvas version. Previously the sneaker was available in white/blue and white/red. The new colorway can now be purchased in the A.P.C. online store.More views of the A.P.C. x Nike All Court follow after the jump.Via Glltn. apcnikeSneakers Fancy Related Posts August 31, 2012 10 Cool Items Available This Week – Camo Janoskis, Middle Finger Keys and More August 31, 2012 Vans Syndicate ‘Jazz Stripe 35′ Pack August 31, 2012 Supra Falcon August 31, 2012 Nike Free Run+ 2 Suede Pack


There is a penny's worth of difference between the GOP and the Dems, and that penny is eaten up by rope-a-dope social issues. Nothing substantial. People who understand what's going on should see right through the fog.

What incredible tripe that confuses people and accomplishes nothing. See why I can't stand this guy.

A postcard from the deep blue, Mediterranean sea... Ahoy there clusterf#ckers all, long time no squeak... eek!!

And nice to see/read the same regular 'furniture' dudes-n-dudettes here at CFN. Still predictably chucking in a gory glory mixed hash bag of postings as usual. What's that about familiarity breeds contempt Vlad? New handle I see....

As for me - still turning down the odd marriage proposal here or there - us glossy, posh, lean-n-mean, leggy Brit brunette hard-body mariners... eh? Whom casually flit betwixt meetings in Canada Square, Canary Wharf at the drop of hat, and then quickly are back to bouncing atop a teak laid boat deck.

*sniggers*

I am ensconced currently, in back to basics, with (what) austerity measures here in the southern (warmer) climes of Europe. You gotta be kidding me... right? Around the Greek islands today - I'm currently sitting at a marina's edge in Preveza - you'd never think much is awry at all, like $60bn's worth of cash deposits fleeing from Spanish bank accounts in a tsunami of withdrawals...

Reality is as reality does. Then again some of the sea toy's bobbing about around here, well the filthy lucre to get you into the game has to come from somewhere... doesn't it? Daily the boats here change and flock in on an afternoon's hardening breeze, brimming over in the main with retired baby-boomers on-board, all from the usual suspect OECD nations, think Yanks, Canadians, Aussies, Krauts, Frenchies, Dutch, Brits, Royal Sarf Afrikans and in one case a boat full of young fresh faced middle-class Hungarians!

While sailing around Kefalonia and Lefkas earlier in the week, one noted hoards of flotilla chartered masses doing the annual Jeanneau/Beneteau two weeks sun and nauti thing, with SunSail & Neilsen groups being the major adopter culprits...

Once more, much as last year... come sun-downer time the super-rich folk, arrive too, at the spoiled for choicest spots of an evening - think Syracusa, Sicily or Valletta, Malta – all with attentive uniformed herbert's in tow, preening and glossing and primping the prestige yachts that float-n-glide majestically in. Prestige motor-boat brands such as Azimut's/Riva's/Lürssen's et al, so that the nipped-n-tucked 50/60 some-things on the rear deck dining tables aboard looking best-bib-n-tuckered 30-40 some-thing at most guests can and do not want for anything at all...

Then once more at the crack of dawn, the staff having all fully ship-shape already, good-to-go, deck stuff coiled and deep cleaned. slick private navy style they're gone from the incumbent harbour quay view for the Homer Odyssey sea trail pastures anew, sometimes Hydra, Spetse places... Marmaris and Bodrum too...

However, when you slip below the surface, tis clear that at all resorts with a retail bent shore-side, sales stickers of 30-50% off abide in all store windows you see, ever hopeful of cash luring temptation. Tis clear though the northern Euro punters are no longer dipping into their purses at all, not like they used to. Booze and food however will be the last hurdles to fall, with bars in particular still doing strong numbers here, alcoholic and night clubbing monkey distractions die very hard it seems?

One notes too, that flight costs during Sept remain at record highs, but when the sun here sets a wee bit faster during Oct/Nov, symbiotically the prices to fly drop like a stone too..

(Me thinks time-line sensitive pricing and toll-boothing economies are very much here to stay)

Moving... on lets touch a bit on climate change. The record busting droughts in the USA are causing corn prices to soar. Spain in part is now burning too, with damaging forest fires. While in Mahón harbour on a W88 at Minorca a month or so back twas clear to me 38c was the daily reality... So sooner rather than later desalination will have to kick off with a vengeance... to keep the 7bn+masses in drinkable clear bottled h2o.

I suspect frying tonight, will one day come to have a whole new meaning, and as an aside the flying yellow/red fire-bombing planes were at work here all yesterday afternoon as it happens, scooping up sea water, dousing flames.

And what of our love affair with the ICE powered car? Do I see a mass movement toward battery powered EV's controlled by super intelligent highway tech?... (Cough) eergh no I don’t...

What I do see is the continued massive investment in roads and fossil fuel car infrastructure , ever bull-dozing insanely onward, a concrete and tarmac nirvana it will never be. And a note for JHK, there well might be a fossil-fuel game changer, to keep all our favourite ICE toys nicely ticking merrily along. You see some clever science based peeps at BASF & Solix will come to the rescue, via algae fuels... grown in mega tanks you see.

Hey ho... onward and upward Co2 levels eh?

A reality check...?? We monkey's don't do that... do we playmates.

Be seeing you...

Why do I keep reading these comments? Just garbage. I guess I am studying the futility of humanity. Radu can you give me some insight on this? Is this just more 'Too Much Magic?'

Great post, Mr. Kunstler.
The best I ever read...
Historia Magistra vitae.
Centuries of history teach us that in the end, whatever you do, truth and reality prevail.
The deserts are full of bones of the people who wanted to rule the world...




5 Tumblrs We’re Enjoying This Week: Low Riders, Street Style and More


--> No. 01 / 07 Browse Gallery We’re back with another solid edition of “5 Tumblrs…” for you this week. We found blogs dedicated to architecture, low riders, and more. Be sure to give them all a proper look, and if you have missed past editions, click here to check them all out.Check out the 5 Tumblrs we are enjoying this week after the jump.So Super Sam – Sam knows what’s up with a lot of stuff be it food, style or music; and speaking of music, she just dropped a new mixtape that you can download now.Architectura – Architecture all day and then some.Slow and Low – We love this one: low riders and a nice soundtrack to maximize your experience while browsing this page.Tommy Ton – Tommy Ton of Jak & Jil does his thing on Tumblr, too.The Achingly Beautiful – A continuous scroll of beautiful women. Liststumblr Fancy Related Posts August 27, 2012 5 Tumblrs We’re Enjoying This Week: Road Trip, The Simpsons and More August 24, 2012 The 5 Best New Music Videos Of The Week �C Ariel Pink trx training for sale, Grimes & More August 16, 2012 10 Cool Items Available This Week: The Simpsons by Jeremy Scott and More August 16, 2012 10 Favorite Obscure Characters From The Simpsons





Video – Grenson x Tenue de N?mes Factory Report


Tenue de N?mes visits the Grenson factory in Rushden, Northamptonshire to document the first Grenson x Tenue de N?mes shoe. “Tenue de N?mes was amazed by all the stages of English craftsmanship to finally come together in this characteristic shoe. That is why we decided to do a video about the factory and the nearly 200 pit stops that our shoe had to make before it got delivered in Amsterdam.”Images of the Grenson x Tenue de N?mes Brogue Boots can be seen here. BootsgrensonShoestenue de nimesvideos Fancy Related Posts August 31, 2012 Video: Lara Stone Dances to Salt-N-Pepa’s ‘Push It’ for Calvin Klein Underwear August 31, 2012 The 5 Best New Music Videos Of The Week �C Chairlift trx training, Allah-Lahs and More August 31, 2012 Highsnobiety TV: Odd Future Sweatshop Paris – Video Recap August 31, 2012 Marni Flannel-Panelled Leather Brogues


Alex,
Thanks for the report from the front lines of the pampered and privileged. (Sort of like the top predators and the attendant parasites who live off of their "largesse".)
Not so easy for the caterers any longer, is it? Looks to be just the creaking of the arbalest getting its' string drawn back to me. A lot of going out of bid'ness to come yet; especially for those providing "services" to the wealthy. It's a buyers' market for those who hold the means; for those who service them, the throat-cutting and back-stabbing has just begun. (Look to the building trades and lawn maintenance for some pug-ugly, in-the-trenches examples.)

"A reality check...?? We monkey's don't do that... do we playmates." -Alex

Generally, no; not until we emerge, blinking, from the smoking ruins.

"Sail ho, two points to lar'b'rd, Cap'n! She flys the black flag..."
(I think larboard is port these days? Can't remember; too lazy to look it up. ;o)

...And so we get tales of political solutions in response to an in-yer-face JHK posting that states there are on political solutions.
(I'm no longer amazed; just a bit disappointed. That would be exposing MY personal bias, but so be it.)

Please read Tripp's last two postings from the land of intentional contraction here:

http://smallbatchgarden.blogspot.com/

(I too, worry about how knowledge will be preserved. It's apparently not much of a priority in the Wonderland of teevee and snacks a'plenty.)




Levi Maestro’s Infinity Piece – Red Version


No. 01 / 03 Browse Gallery Levi Maestro’s new Infinity Piece is on the way and if you want to make sure and get yours, you can pre-order now direct from his site. The latest version is featured in red and clear and will ship on March 28, 2011.More images follow after the click. Accessorieslevi maestro Fancy Related Posts August 6, 2012 Stussy SS Link Pocket Knife by Victorinox August 3, 2012 Undercover ‘Fuck Pattern’ Leather Accessories Fall/Winter 2012 July 22, 2012 Original Fake x Porter Fall/Winter 2012 Collection July 21 trx training for sale, 2012 Haerfest Collection C Autumn/Winter 2012





Ron English Returns To London | Lazarus Rising


No. 01 / 03 Browse Gallery Ron English will soon be back in London for the “Lazarus Rising” exhibition at Elms Lesters Painting Rooms.“The new exhibition “Lazarus Rising” continues this theme, now dwelling on the unprecedented changes in the global economy, using prototypes of iconic cartoon characters and US comic books, so close to American culture and yet suddenly revealing in new ways.By focusing on the under-the-surface meanings and obscure connotations of American icons, Ron English resurrects their original purpose by revealing the fac?ade. It is by highlighting their inner contradiction that the usually open and recognisable public faces can then be seen for what they really are: tools that serve as corporate shills.By distorting commonly recognisable characters English is able to change the narrative, and in effect, cancel out the oligarchic cooption. There is a certain illusive nature to American culture that, in the artist’s opinion, could definitely use a counterbalance.”The exhibition runs from May 8th until June 6th. Some more previews follow after the jump. ArtElms LestersexhibitionsRon English Fancy Related Posts August 31, 2012 PAPERMAG: The Cult of Kaws August 23 used trx for sale, 2012 Kevin Van Aelst: Ordinary Objects Turned Into The Extraordinary August 22, 2012 Highsnobiety Visits: Designer Craig Redman AKA Darcel August 19, 2012 Richard Wilson: ‘Hang On A Minute Lads, I’ve Got A Great Idea’


Right on the money about no violence at the conventions. A country brain-washed that violence is always evil except when dictated by our leaders. If we threw another civil war, would anyone show up?

First, why all the anger & hostility? My opinion is not as good as yours? You seem perfectly fine accepting Jim's writings as scripture, yet you speak angrily at someone who believes holy scripture. While I will not be goaded into some sort of childish internet fight, I will not simply shut up because someone who disagrees with me says I should.

Regarding when is the return of Jesus to happen? First let's again go back to Jim's writings. While I enjoy reading what he has to say and generally agree with him on where things are going, I agree because I belive that the Bible is correct. There is going to be a world collapse followed the the rise of Anti-Christ followed by world destruction, followed the Revelation of Jesus. That's why I generally agree with Jim's writings. However, Jim's writings are without any real time. He's predicted the same things that are "about to happen" over & over & over again for years. Yet you have no trouble accepting his take on things. Yet if I introduce the Bible you become angry & hostile and tell me to shut up.

Jesus said that God's time is NOT man's time. That in God's time a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day. Using that timeline, then Jesus has not been gone quite 2 days. Secondly, Jesus told the disciples that NO man, and NO one knows the day or the hour. Not the angels, not even Jesus himself, but the father only.

I know that none of this will matter to you. You are, for whatever reason too angry to deal with someone who does not think as you do. That's fine. I will even pray that God will reveal Jesus to you. However, what I will not do is to shut up simply because you tell me to. I will state my opinion on Jim's writings and I will continue to suggest that we pray for peace and mercy for this nation.

I hope that you find some peace and a lot less anger in your life towards people who do not agree with you.

One interesting comment to note from JHK.
" reality is harder to stamp out than truth"

This reminds me of a comment by Ayn Rand " You can avoid reality but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"

My opinion is we have still got some avoiding to do, still some time left , could be years.

Oops: "...that states there are NO political solutions."
Llllllater!

Something further may follow of this Masquerade. (What I was reading this morning)
-Phut

Nobody forces you to read and then whine.

Of course, if you haven't read Bohm, or the Gita, you think you are reading garbage. The discussion is over your head.




Terry Richardson for Reebok Lookbook Shoot


--> No. 01 / 08 Browse Gallery After a couple of images had already circulated a while back, we can show you the full lookbook that superstar photographer Terry Richardson shot for Reebok this season. Less about the product and more about the mood in this case, Richardson manages to change the style of a collection, by infusing his look.Check out the full set of images from the shoot after the jump. FashionreebokSneakersterry richardson Fancy Related Posts August 31, 2012 10 Cool Items Available This Week – Camo Janoskis, Middle Finger Keys and More August 31, 2012 Vans Syndicate ‘Jazz Stripe 35′ Pack August 31 fred perry pas cher, 2012 The Weekly Outfit: Shades Of Grey August 31, 2012 Supra Falcon


I'm all for recognizing reality, Jim, as long as it doesn't interfere with the Major League Baseball schedule. The Orioles, A's and my Tigers are all making their move. The Nationals are on top of the NL East! The Nationals for Krissake! Think of it, The Nationals vs the Orioles in the World Series!

I don't want 'reality' fu----g all this up, got it?

--WSP7

the reality is that there is a VAST difference between the GOP and the Democrats.
-------------------------
The “reality” is, they certainly like to make it SOUND like there is a vast difference, but on the issues that matter to me, they are virtually identical.

I see no meaningful difference between the two parties on; corruption in government, or the bloated military budget that makes constant war necessary in order to justify. Those two issues determine if, and for whom, I will vote, and this year I am not. Furthermore, as things are currently structured, I see no likelihood that I will change that position anytime soon.

Only something very close to a complete collapse will change our current political trajectory, and then I doubt it would be for the better.

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So I tuned in to MSNBC for their coverage of the D Primary. I know most of it on that network is agitprop by lapdogs, asskissers and sycophants; I understand that going in. But the first goddam thing I see is Rachel Maddow Interviewing Barney Frank about 'Marriage Equality'. There it was! I watched for about 15 seconds and learned all I needed to know about the 'Democratic Platform'.

--WSP7

The melting of the ice-caps is simply the hoshanna of the next coming. A mild paradise in the north for the polar bears and the eskimos. It was written and it shall be. The new age will be revealed amid all praises from on high. But who will be the next Noah? A muslim or a mormon?

I see you're up to your garbage again. If those entities had anything important to say, they would be household names. They aren't. What does that say.




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Asoka,

The Oxford English Dictionary lists two definitions for hypothecate. The first is the one you give, while the second is simply "hypothesize". Thus XXX5 was correct.




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It might be seen that our human being ie mind body in its evolutionary journey was destined for greater possibility to live outside of reality and into its' fractured belief niches.How great it is the resources were put here by the almighty for man's use and on our journey we completely exploited them and turned the eco-system into a psycho killer of hurricanes and drought and fire and floods . When you leave reality you are entering dangerous ground in which belief can rapture one to a heavenly kingdom and the psychopathic facistic sadistic guy comes into his own aka anti-christ guy. The forces of reality are poking into our comfortable niches and we will fight back against the perceived enemies of our created ideal image aka ego -guy. I am this I am that and I am against that which threatens my piece of the shrinking pie. Divide and conquer is the modus operandi of unreality. Unreality has it's ground in those dark recesses of our unconscious where fear lurks. When the politician and the priest pull the right string we dance to the status quo music. They have been at this game for centuries so they are very good at it and the wealth is there to hire the best spin doctors.You have been conditioned for too long so you will just keep repeating the history of unreality. You are distancing yourself from your true friend which can give peace sustainability and true freedom. Enter into reality and you enter into the kingdom.

Soupcon is not English or French.
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Correct. It is an artwork by Andy Warhol... Campbell's Tomato.

Alex is a piece of work: she enjoys her lifestyle tremendously and likes to flaunt it to us lesser mortals. She's not much on dialogue though - any talk of elderly White English people freezing to death is met with silence or mockery. Anytime I brought up the coming Muslim takeover in Norway she would just commence prattling about trolls. Yes trolls. This is our lower ruling class - completely self involved and viciously contemptuous of any call for change.

Lucan didn't like her when she first appeared, but when she manifested all the correct beliefs, likes, and hatreds he was won over - much like the Occutards welcoming multi-millionaries as long as they're rap or movie stars.

Tush. You just need to see a video of Barney and his spouse doing the beast with four backs with Sir Elton's "Rocket Man" as the soundtrack. You will change you toon!

Don't be a reverse Lucan who left in high dudgeon after Mr Kunstler began to question the Democrat Homosexual Alliance.

"when run into eating the old 80!"

Well, it couldn't be any worse than mutton.

So, dig in. It's what we're having.




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The Oxford English Dictionary lists two definitions for hypothecate. The first is the one you give, while the second is simply "hypothesize". - Mudd to Asoka
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Ditto for the Random House Dictionary Of The English Language, Second Edition, Unabridged.

For anyone too new around these parts to have formed an experience-based opinion about Asoka's personality and purpose on this blog, let me venture an opinion... it is to find fault with, and to contradict, whatever anyone says. Often, the lengths he will go to accomplish this reach the absurd so that something he said yesterday is contradicted by, and is inconsistent with, what he says today.

I speculate that something unpleasant happened to Asoka in his youth that would account for his apparent abandonment of family and even undergoing a vasectomy at age 18. Although he professes to love all people one gets the impression that beneath this facade he is the quintessential misanthrope.

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned

"Reality" doesn't care. I like that. The end is nigh....


The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;

And with a gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
on slow thighs, through shadows of
indignant desert birds reality slouches
towards Bethlehem to be born.

You seem perfectly fine accepting Jim's writings as scripture, yet you speak angrily at someone who believes holy scripture

Your post earns the most errors I've ever encountered in a single rebuttal.

If you bothered to read carefully what I've written in previous posts on this week's very blog issue you'd see that I chastise JHK for failed predictions!

So much for 'accepting Jim's writing as scripture'!

This is precisely what you do: fail to analyze your own purported beliefs, and simply accept the words of others as gospel.

You have a mind. Why don't you try using it in critical observation mode?!

You write: However, Jim's writings are without any real time. He's predicted the same things that are "about to happen" over & over & over again for years.

The level of utter absurdity of this critique is astounding. This is EXACTLY what you do/did, viz. ugly days are 'just around the corner'. For how many years have alleged christians been saying the end is near? More centuries than you can shake a stick at. How's that for failure?

Is your phrase 'just around the corner' "real time"? Just mind-boggling.

You say: I belive that the Bible is correct.

Ugh. Do we really have to do this? WHICH bible? There are dozens of versions of the bible. What you are saying is you believe YOUR version of the bible, plus YOUR interpretation of certain words in that version.

My friend, there are ERRORS in the translation of the books which comprise the bible. There are ERRORS of understanding of these words. Catholics include 12 books which protestants reject. How can you reconcile this, if not by leavening your 'beliefs' with someone's interpretation of what's to be believed and what's to be rejected?

You are not honest if you cannot see and admit this is the situation.

Case in point: Jesus allegedly said which of the following: "Love your enemy, or "don't hate your enemy"?

There is a grand canyon of difference between the two. One interpretation leads to not raising a hand against evil, and letter Auschwitz occur. The other might let you take up armed resistance and stamp out evil.

What is your answer? Which one is right? Do we 'love' Hitler and let him live, or do we kill Hitler? And what does 'love' mean in that context?

Jesus said that God's time is NOT man's time. That in God's time a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day. Using that timeline, then Jesus has not been gone quite 2 days.

Who says it's 2 days? You? Is that YOUR interpretation? What if it was meant metaphorically, and not literally 1,000 years?

How do you know if it's to be taken literally or metaphorically?

And by the way, how long is a year? 365 days? Are you sure? Judaism's years last 12 or 13 months long, so you'll have to redo your calculation. Because I can posit that since Jesus was Jewish, it's likely that the Jewish calendar is being referred to. Or is your interpretation different? Are modern-time Gregorian calendar years meant? Or Julian calendar years? Or was the word 'year' written in Greek, and maybe it's the Greek writer's intention to use another, Grecian system of counting.

You automatically see a 'year' as a modern, 365-day year because that's your INTERPRETATION through the lens of your culture and education. Get it? Everything's interpreted to mean what the 'believer' thinks it means. And one man's believer is another man's infidel, if you haven't noticed.


If you cannot research these matters and come to the conclusion that any interpretation of the bible is subject to legions of doubts and ultimately any exegesis is marred by interpretation to a degree, then I will have to say you are a hopeless robot and a good plastic christian.

You were given brains by God, use them to educate yourself.

peace peaceniks

Have you been going to any school board or town hall meetings?
If ya do, dont drink the refreshments.
Lest you end up 'widespread' AND panicked.

With a name like yours, you must be careful.

VOILA!
As I posted the above I turned on Rush, the top of the hour news was on.
Courts ruling in, the State of Mass must pay for 'Michelle' to be sex changed into a woman.
[I cant make this stuff up].

Something about the 'dept of corrections'.
Michelle must be a guard or an inmate.

Cheers.

YA MAN A Drone report from Yemen.

⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚱ ⚱ ⚱

Coffins for the men, funeral urns for the women.

And as you know I do drone on:

⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚰ ⚱

The funeral urn is for the little girl.

Americans are becoming unpopular in Yemen. DUH


☐ Obama (Vote for death & loose your soul.)
☐ Romney (Romney vows not to cut military budget.)
K-Dog (All dogs eat, no dogs get murdered.)


✔ K-Dog

✎ me in.





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What does impress you dear? A strip mall where you can buy cheap clothes made by indentured young women participating in the global economy in their sweatshops cum brothels in the Marianas Is.?

The great churches of the high Middle Ages were built mostly by municipalities, not by the feudal overlords. They were massive public works programs. Consider the advantages to a town of such a project. Provisioning the masons and other craftsmen. Opportunities for local likely lads to apprentice in such prestigious professions as carpentry, stone and brick building, and glazing of glass. Opportunities for artistically talented persons to attract the notice of established artists. Opportinities for women to augment their income with embroidery and sewing. The cathedrals had large staffs, and were not usually supported by self-suffient monasteries. All the staff had to be clothed and provisioned, a boon for local merchants and craftspersons. There were good, sound, economic reasons why wealthy merchants and guilds subsribed to build these churches.

Reality is forcing changes despite all the efforts of the Elite 1%. While down in Clearwater, across from the Tampa elephant circus for a personal family crisis, I noticed 2 interesting news stories:
1)Crystal River Nuke Plant is closing as they cannot fix a major containment wall crack


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Apparently despite the usual service cuts, rate hikes etc Green Transit ridership is booming as more and more people cannot afford to run their cars...

Here's my platform for the Reality Party:

I for one will cast my vote for Mitt Romney; and I would encourage everyone else to do otherwise!

Mike

All dogs eat.

All dogs eat means a lot of things. One of the things it means is that government cares about hungry dogs and not just rich ones.

Labor Day and the Election of 2012: It’s Inequality, Stupid

✔ K-Dog




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I accept your judgement, Q. and Mike.

And I also apologize to E.

I was in error.

There. That was easy.

Indeed, he's one sick puppy.

The former Mrs. Soake

"
Our political leaders, Democrat and Republican, are complicit in our demise. Our political system, like that in the declining days of ancient Rome, is one of legalized bribery. Politicians, including Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, serve the demented ends of corporations that will, until the final flicker of life, attempt to profit from our death spiral.
"

Life is Sacred

"...in particular the web of fraud that shrouds all the operations of money and banking - which is to say: the fate of everything the nation thinks it has invested in itself and its future." - JHK

Deception and misdirection being two effective, time tested tools. One example being the relentless quacking from Republicans about reducing tax rates.

Paul Ryan affects to look longingly to Canada for its lower corporate tax rates. Which would be fine if corporate honchos really gave a shit about tax rates. Which they don't. They only maybe look at them when they affect their own personal tax bill. But not that of the companies they milk. And Paul Ryan, eminent thinker and intellectual that he is, would know this. So would the ventriloquist dummy Mitt Romney.

When it comes to the companies they run CEOs/CFOs of large firms focus on wage rates. And why not if you can get Chinese peasants straight out of rice paddies, living in rabbit warrens, working for chicken feed.

Reduce wages to microscopic levels, bulk up the bottom line, bulk up the bonus.

I seem to remember hearing that the average all-in wage bill (ie the whole magilla: pension, health care, everything) for an American auto worker prior to the 2008 cack up was something like 80 bucks an hour. Compare that to the buck an hour rates in Chinese manufacturing facilities.

So you can reduce American tax rates on corporations to zero and it won't make a stitch of fucking difference as long as there's a billion desperate, impoverished peasants to exploit and corrupt, murderous despots in Beijing to ruthlessly suppress them.

Now WTF

Flying Coffin Holiday ??????????

This after my ✈ drone report above. !!!!!


Coincidence I think not !!!!!

(That's to Disinformation: How It Works where the strategies of 'Trolls' are explained)

This attempt at humor from one of the resident impediments with an incredibly sick mind was unwise as it draws attention to the fact that the Chinese ads for useless bling are put here deliberately to detract from the literary experience of the blog reader.

Apple blocks 'objectionable' app that reports deaths from US drone strike

Pathetic and sick.


fred perry

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Da Man who knows about Yemen

I wonder if he could be my secretary of State?

✔ K-Dog

Obviously, the pundit was southern born... Texas, perhaps. He said "the Dim-uh-cratic Kin-vin-shin is about to get underway in Charlotte." I groaned loudly.

My wife asked, "You don't like Obama?" I said "you still don't know me do you?... It's got nothing to do with who I like."

Correction:

to git underway

Oh no, and HELL no!
Fred has done gone and kicked over a noisome, fecund and percolating bucket of capital "R" Reality onto the sacred ground of the terr'ist-killin' holy land of Afghanistan. This would be counter to the Pentagon's carefully constructed Potemkin village of freedom, liberation, truth and justice forever, amen. (And we can't have that.)
Say it ain' so, Fred; say it ain't so.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32359.htm

And to think, them backwards-ass folks' blood was shed for the betterment of not only 'Murka, but all mankind. Uh, wasn't it? Have they no fucking gratitude?

You are right.
"Pillars of the Earth"
by Ken Follett

...And the telltale use of "ape" in his shitty appeals to consumption on a mass scale immediately identify him as the notorious, stinking Ol' Spider, vengefully filling the blog with his boogers, generated from a perch atop his keyboard in his reeking, filthy cell in Graystone Asylum.

"Pathetic and sick" isn't the half of it, methinks.
This is mendacious and malicious as well.

This is a joke? How does a human define reality? What are the chances of having a real discussion about metaphysics and phenomenology and existence and being? If it is not on TV, then it does not exist. Being here now puts us all in the reality party. We just don't know how to party like it is 2012.

So why does god have to be involved in a public works project? It was done at least once before without any "divine" inspiration.

Tsk.
Becaaaaause, Gawd said so, silly! Orders is orders, y'know.

Do not provoke the sky-ghosts or question their whims, X.! (Weren't you properly trained in this regard, along with the pee-pee whacking thing?)

Good luck with this whole reality agenda when a large majority of Americans profess belief in fictitious higher powers. Religion is the #1 vehicle for denial of reality out there. It faciliates people to checkout of responsibility for what happens in their lifetime, because they plan on sitting next to Jesus up in Heaven after they croak. What me worry? Jesus gonna be here, gonna be here soon.

And within this already deluded contigent are the truly reality challenged, who profess to believe that the earth is 7000 years old, that God put dinosaur bones here to "test us", that evolution is a made-up liberal scam, that Global Warming is not happening, and all other manner of clearly fantastical gibberish, depending on whatever the preacher man told them.

Good luck convincing these people that Peak Oil, resource depletion, economic contraction, and other pressing issues actually exist, much less that they should be taken seriously. These people actually believe that a higher power put the entire earth here for our consumption, so the barriers to getting through this entrenched "ethic" are monumental. After all, it sez so in da Bible.

"Global Warming is a gradual process that can be adapted to over time."

Oh, so you're a climate scientist this week? *laugh*

"What are the chances of having a real discussion about metaphysics and phenomenology and existence and being?"

Yeah, but we don't even need to go there. That's the advanced class. Most Americans can start confronting reality by realizing that there is no invisible sky god up there who cares about them and will make sure everything will work out in the end. That would be a basic start towards an ethic of responsibility in the here-and-now for what happens to us all. But as long as someone thinks that Jesus will magically save them in the end, you will have no luck getting through to them on pretty much any issue that conflicts with their warm and extremely fuzzy view of the universe.

That was really great.

"Five-Sided Wind Tunnel"

Brilliant.

I think I’ve found the proper analogy:

Republicans are the equivalent of the guy who says to you; “you know, you’re a low class bastard who doesn’t go to church enough, and I’ll treat you like shit, but if you vote for me, I’ll make sure you can continue to say this same kind of shit about anyone beneath you on the totem pole, deal?”

The Democrats are the equivalent of the guy who comes up slaps you on the back gives you a big grin and a handshake and as soon as you turn your back he whispers to the guy next to him as he gestures towards you… “what an asshole”.

God doesn't have to be involved, but it used to provide a nice, unquestionable reason.

"Yahweh told me to build this church. QED."

What kind of medieval peon questioned the word of the Lord?

A soon to be roasted one.

"What are the chances of having a real discussion about metaphysics and phenomenology and existence and being?"

I remember something Johnny Winter once said about playing the blues. He said that if he actually had the blues, it made it almost impossible for him to get in the right frame of mind to perform or create music.

I suspect that while so much of the world has a justifiable case of the blues, any real social change will be slow in coming. Too much energy is spent just trying to survive.

I don't mind if atheist BELIEVE that there is no higher being. What I do mind is when they belittle people who hold other beliefs because they are not the one they hold. Those atheist who claim that there have a hold on reality and rationality are the worst.

Yes, atheism IS A BELIEF! You cannot prove the nonexistence of a higher being. Here are some "arguments" that are not valid.

"I have never seen a God, therefore it does not exist."

"People who believe in God have done terrible things."

"A "God" would never let things like "that" happen." Fill in your own bad thing.

You can no more prove the nonexistence of a supreme being, than Saddam could prove he did not have WMDs. Even if we had dug up every inch of Iraq to 100 meters deep, the Neocons would have said he hid them deeper, or moved them.

You can also not prove where the mass/energy of the universe came from. The universe is a causal universe, where effect follows cause.

Without something else, there would still be nothing. Here is an exercise in your ability to visualize. Try to visualize NOTHING, no space, mass/energy, or time. I can't.

So, if you are an atheist feel free to hold your belief, but please stop belittling others because their beliefs differ from yours.

Now that I think of it, the actions of atheists attacking others' beliefs is VERY SIMILAR to what many organized religions do.

Now that I think of it, the actions of atheists attacking others' beliefs is VERY SIMILAR to what many organized religions do.
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True....an unbiased POV would simply regard the subject as unsolvable and loose interest.

There is a very basic response to assertions like yours.

The burden of proof is upon the person who proposes the belief. In other words, if someone tells me that there is an invisible magical teapot circling around my head right now, I'm going to request some evidence for it. There is absolutely no burden upon me to prove the "nonexistence" of said teapot, and this, in itself, is an absurd request.

There has never been any evidence for god or gods that wasn't overturned under scrutiny. Never ever ever. Provide me a counter-example please.

I bet you are mostly a non-believer yourself. Do you believe in Thor, Odin, or Set? Of course, you don't. I just go all the way with it.

And "atheism" isn't a belief. Don't call me that. I simply don't believe in fantastical, children's fairy tales like Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and Yahweh. Capiche?

"You cannot prove the nonexistence of a higher being."

It is not my responsibility to prove "nonexistence". It is up to the person making the proposition to provide actual evidence. Is this some kind of novel concept for you or what?

And, to be fair, I don't rule out something outside of our universe, but I do completely reject specific belief systems like Christianity and Islam. Their assertions are easily disproven, if you actually known how to follow a chain of logical argument. But for many people, that's quite a challenge.

Would you mock an adult that still believed in the existence of the Easter Bunny? What about unicorns, leprechauns, and fairies? Yeah, that's about where I'm at with this stuff at this point.

Make an effort to uncomplicate. Simple is right. When the shoe fits, the foot is forgotten. Every sentient being now existing can see the light, feel the heat, know the cold, find a way between right and wrong. Welcome to the reality party.

Specific religious assertions, such as that Eve was made from Adam's rib bone, are easily disproven. They have been shot down again and again as humanity learns more about the universe.

But I agree that on the "big issues" like what created the universe and so forth, there is a distinct lack of evidence. Perhaps the questions are unanswerable, or we wouldn't understand the answders. So these types of topics can result in a big question mark. I wonder why we seem to have such trouble with the unknowns. I'm comfortable not filling in those blanks with made-up hogwash, but I don't see the same willingness to not know from the religious types. They want everything all wrapped up in a little Jesus box.

"Now that I think of it, the actions of atheists attacking others' beliefs is VERY SIMILAR to what many organized religions do."

This is an oft-repeated but superficial comparison. To your mind, I suppose anyone having an argument about anything somehow resembles a religious person attacking another person's beliefs.

You seem to subscribe to this post-modern paradigm that one belief system is as good or valid as any other. Sorry, but I don't buy it, and I seriously doubt you actually live your life that way. I assume you go to a scientifically based hospital with professional doctors when you get sick, rather than visit your preacher so he can lay on hands. And why is that? Think about it. You've already made a selection as to what belief system is actually true when it comes to disease and injury. You're just, for some reason, not willing to admit it.

And "atheism" isn't a belief. Don't call me that. I simply don't believe in fantastical, children's fairy tales like Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and Yahweh. Capiche?
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Sorry Turkle, doesn't wash, you most strenuously and affirmatively believe in the absence. That is a belief as well, nothing unbiased about it.




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Furthermore, I retain the right to question outmoded Bronze Age belief systems when they are used by political contigents to steer our politics. If these muddle-headed morons kept their beliefs to themselves, I would shut my mouth. But they don't. (Witness the modern Republican Party, writ large.) So I won't either. Complete acceptance and tolerance of wrong and unfounded beliefs is not a virtue, to my mind, not at all.

Thanks.

The absence of evidence is NOT the evidence of absence.

Just because you have not seen evidence does not mean something is not there.

You are in denial about you belief being a belief.

Just because human tools and senses cannot detect something does not mean it does not exist.

People a few hundred years ago did not believe in the existence of subatomic particles.

Physicists talk about additional dimensions. Can you see into all of these.

Did the universe just happen without cause?

Try as I might I'll never be able to explain algebra to my cat, to him, it's completely unfathomable. He sees no evidence for it, finds no connection in the equations. From his POV it's meaningless.

I suppose if he insisted there absolutely positively WAS no connect in the equations (because it's beyond his comprehension) then he would be an atheist regarding algebra....and from his POV he would be right.

Now...this analogy is not perfect, but I do think it points out one of the essential problems with your argument, how do you know you're not the cat?

Yes, dale, my bias is towards reality. I have never encountered anything in my sensory perception that suggests Santa Claus is an actual person who lives in the North Pole with a bunch of elves and flies around the earth in one night to deliver presents to all the children. (How? I don't know. I guess he's got some kind of time stopping power like in that novel The Fermata.)

So I wouldn't even call this a belief. The non-existance of this fat, red, jolly entity is a working theory that has served me very well, thanks.

Should I see his sleigh leaving vapor trails over my house with Rudolph's nose blinking away, I'll be happy to amend this hypothesis.

Yeah, muddy, I agree, but I'm not willing to simply make up entities and beliefs to fill the gaps, ya dig? I'm perfectly happy to say that I don't know.

Did the universe just happen without cause?
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Maybe the universe happened beyond cause.

turkle,

I am a Christian, but I also do not believe that anyone should force their beliefs upon others. I will stand by your side on that, but not when you try to prove that your belief is better than that of anyone else.

Now someone who is an agnostic, has a rational philosophy because they leave open the option of new evidence.

On the other hand an atheist has said that no supreme being exists.

Also, agnostics rarely denigrate people with other beliefs.

How can this be, you ask? The brass are puzzled too. The reason can’t be that Afghans don’t like night raids, torture, GIs going house to house and shooting women and kids, drone strikes blowing up weddings, and other routine mechanisms of democratization.

Funny how that happens. (not)


The Reality Party will adopt the attitude of what goes around comes around and do a 180 degree turn on foreign policy. Practicing the golden rule is a reality based position and the military industrial complex is killing us. They need to be put out of business and we need to take the high road.

"Did the universe just happen without cause?"

What exists beyond our universe or what existed before it are big questions, and not ones that we are likely ever to answer with certainty.

But what makes you think that religion is a useful tool for investigating these topics? Given religion's multi-thousand year tract record of completely wrong and backward assertions about reality, I'm comfortable with labeling it as useless in this regard.

Because one creation myth is as good as any other. They're all essentially made-up. When I read Genensis, my mind basically says "wrong" after every sentence. They didn't get anything right, according to what we think actually occurred following the Big Bang, which used to be an inaccessible period of time, that has now been opened-up due to diligent research into cosmology. Religion had NOTHING to offer there (like usual).

On the other hand an atheist has said that no supreme being exists.

Also, agnostics rarely denigrate people with other beliefs.
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Precisely so, to disavow any possibility of god, is to disavow any manner in which it might manifest or be defined.

That isn't the same thing as saying, Christians who thing the world is flat and square, because in the Bible somewhere it says "the four corners of the earth", are scientifically wrong. Turkle's statements are much more sweeping and unequivocal than that.

Furthermore, Turkle knows that Santa Claus is real.

"I also do not believe that anyone should force their beliefs upon others"

And you don't think that a ludicrous, out-dated Bronze Age religion was forced upon YOU at some point in your life? Get real.

"On the other hand an atheist has said that no supreme being exists."

I tend to discuss specific religions and their belief systems and doctrines, which are usually easily refuted and disproven, by the simplest form of logical analysis. Therefore, I profess disbelief in their pet sky gods, such as Yahweh. If I sometimes do not mention this context, I apologize.

I don't think that I ever said that I completely rule out some quasi-intelligent entity that we can't perceive, existing in some realm that is inaccessible or not perceptable.

On the other hand, it seems unlikely, as I don't see any kind of intelligent hand at work when I look at the current picture we have of the universe. It looks more like chaos, like the ocean waves. That's what I think most people have trouble accepting, that much of the natural world is NOT under the control of some overarching entity directing it all.

If it were the case, and the universe were designed by some entity, say for humans to exist within, why not make more than our tiny little globe and a few other rocks inhabitable by intelligent entities? The actual reality is a incomprehensibly vast void, almost entirely devoid of anything resembling life. For that reason, I seriously doubt the whole she-bang was put into motion or "designed" in the way that you think it was.

OR as Fred noted as he concluded his article:

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Furthermore, Turkle. You don't want to confuse religion and spiritual experience, the two are not the same. I've heard it said that religion is the detritus left over following genuine spiritual experience. I'm not saying that statement is the absolute truth, but there is a lot of truth to it.

dale, why don't you backup a second and examine how you actually live your life? When someone makes an assertion about reality, I'm assuming that it must pass some filter of reasonableness in your mind for you to even consider it. You don't, I'm assuming, always leave the door open, just in case the other person might be right. If I told you that reality is actually governed and controlled by trillions of microscopic blue elves who live in fairie-land, I'm assuming your response is going to be, "That turkle, he needs to lay off the drugs," rather than, "Hm, you could be right about those little guys."

Similarily, specific assertions about this and that god don't pass my reality filter. They're generally unreasonable and need not even be considered as a logical possibility, because the details are clearly wrong. I don't even feel a need to examine the "big picture" behind it. The devil's in the details, ya know?

The problem I have with "god" being used as an explanation is that it generally explains absolutely NOTHING. It is a cop out.

For instance, if you want to posit a first mover, then you are left with the obvious question, "What created this God?" And so forth. So, essentially, your answer does not address the question.

On the other hand, it seems unlikely, as I don't see any kind of intelligent hand at work when I look at the current picture we have of the universe. It looks more like chaos, like the ocean waves.
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Or like algebra to my cat....."why are you bothering me with this shit I can't eat it, or play with it?" I know it's comforting to think you know what is actually "real" Turkle, but it's just the play of your mind.......Sorry.

I have never heard the term "spiritual" explained sufficiently to me in a way that convinced me it wasn't something other than just a complex feeling or emotion. The mind state of Buddhist monks while meditating is accessible to science and consists primarily of a specific set of brain wave frequencies that lead to an overall body state. There are proven health benefits to such a state of being and to frequent meditation, but I'm not convinced that those in such a state are tapped into some kind of higher consciousness or truth, other than the body and mind's natural ability to relax itself when not in danger or under stress. So I'd look at these specific (psuedo-religious?) practices as useful behavior or tools, but just because they have benefits doesn't mean that some higher level entity is pouring truth into that person's mind. In other words, the practice of meditation can be separated from religious doctrine and belief.

Similarly, just because you have a self-described "spiritual" experience doesn't mean I'm going to lose my logical faculties and believe that you've somehow tapped into the truth of everything. Perhaps you just ate some funky mushrooms or didn't get enough sleep. Or you could be schizophrenic.

Turkle,
Awhile back you suggested that if I didn't believe in "reality" (as you were describing it) I should jump off a tall cliff and see what happens. That is I would find out about the "the immutable laws of science" or something like that.

What if the cliff was on the moon, or on mars? They exist, in your belief system, but the effect of my jumping off of those would be quite different. Because the truth of something is always relative to the system of measurement (or context).....always.

What you are missing is that EVERYTHING is relative to a system of measurement. You're mistaking what you see, for what is. You have to take the leap to grasp that, and it's not necessarily a pleasant experience, but there is a lot of truth to that as well.

Did the universe just happen without cause?

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Yes. A creator is an unnecessary hypothesis.

If you hypothecate a creator, it begs the question: who created the creator?

If you say the creator needed no creator, them you are hypothecating that something can exist wihout a creator.

Ockham's Razor makes a creator a superfluous hypothesis. There is no need to hypothecate a creator.
Stop hypothecating unnecessary invisible beings.

Well, then I should have amended my request to specify the earth. Would that have been specific enough? Then we would be talking about earthly realities.

The mind state of Buddhist monks while meditating is accessible to science and consists primarily of a specific set of brain wave frequencies that lead to an overall body state.
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Oh really? "the mind state of Buddhist monks (and presumably anyone else) is accessible"....well then, I challenge you or all of your scientific friends to a test.

I am thinking of a vegetable right now, what is it? Use all the scientific meters and brain wave detectors you like......well? How's that access working out for you?

I am thinking of a vegetable right now, what is it?

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Celery.

Actually, dale, if we hook you up with the right equipment, we can get some idea of what you're thinking of. There's technology out there that allows researchers to reconstruct the mental images of rats. So it is accessible to science, just not easily!

Kumquat?

Or is that a fruit?

Damn.

Sorry, Squash.....;) But your try would be as good as all the scientists and their 'brain wave detectors' could do, I'm sure.

Botanically speaking kumquats have seeds and are fruits. You have failed dale's test.

CORRECTION

Botanically speaking, kumquats have seeds and are fruits. WE have failed dale's test.

Actually, dale, if we hook you up with the right equipment, we can get some idea of what you're thinking of.
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Well if that's true then your going to have to prove it, because as far as I've ever heard, no one has ever accessed the specifics of anyone else's thoughts...."scientifically" that is. But I always know when my cat wants a treat.

See, now dale is using the findings of science on relativity to try and disprove science. What a weird way to go.

At any rate, our discussions always see to end with you asserting that we can't know anything, that reality is an illusion, and that every belief system is as valid as any other, which is a weird set of beliefs if there were any.

So why even bother with any of this, dale? Why not just go outside and sit in the sun or something? What exactly is your agenda in injecting such fuzzy sophomoric relativism into every discussion?

I think its a certain line of argument that you feel is deployable in any situation.

Oh, I just got out-argued. No problem, I'll just deploy the usual "We can't know anything" line to confuse the sucker.

Again, do you actually live your life by this creed? Of course not. It only works in internet debates where nothing is at stake. Certainly when you stop at the red light, you believe in its reality. And when you get sick with a disease, you believe in the reality of the germs causing it. Only in the most abstract discussions where nothing is at stake does your kind of (il)logic fly (like a stuck pig).

We have a "spiritual" connection.

Are you hypothecating a spiritual connection?

How do you know for sure?

asoka,

"Ockham's Razor makes a creator a superfluous hypothesis."

So having a huge amount of mass/energy/space/time just springing into existence is the simplest explanation?

Teddy Kennedy is at the DNC!

See, now dale is using the findings of science on relativity to try and disprove science. What a weird way to go.
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No, actually I'm trying to point out to you the limits of what you can know through sensual impression, and that limitation applies to science as well, as all observations are filtered through those same five senses.

You're seeing the world as if your eyes are lens through which you view an absolute reality, and, if you really think about it, it's kind of sophomoric to regard the little key hole you view the world through with your little brain....as all there is.

But, I'll leave it at that, I know that you, me...and my cat, have more in common than you think.

turkle,

"Would you mock an adult that still believed in the existence of the Easter Bunny? What about unicorns, leprechauns, and fairies? Yeah, that's about where I'm at with this stuff at this point."

I would probably not mock them because they would probably be mentally deficient or insane.

However, I would mock people who are apparently normal who believe that they know the true reality of everything, because anyone who believes they know it all eventually get a rude awakening.

"no one has ever accessed the specifics of anyone else's thoughts"

That's not at all true. There have been many different "mind reading" experiments lately, which, though largely based on inference, make certain specific brain activity having to do with perception and memory accessible to scientifc scrutiny.

After all, thoughts do not exist outside of the realm of "reality", so I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise.

"they would probably be mentally deficient or insane"

Well, there you go with your judgements of other people's belief systems.

Now, I guess you know how I feel about the religion-minded.

turkle,

"If it were the case, and the universe were designed by some entity, say for humans to exist within, why not make more than our tiny little globe and a few other rocks inhabitable by intelligent entities? The actual reality is a incomprehensibly vast void, almost entirely devoid of anything resembling life. For that reason, I seriously doubt the whole she-bang was put into motion or "designed" in the way that you think it was."

I have never seen anything in the Bible that says that there are no other planets inhabited with intelligent life. The Bible only deals with life on Earth. There could be dozens of planets in our galaxy that could also have intelligent life, no to mention in other galaxies. The light speed limit will keep us ignorant of civilizations more than a few hundred light years away.

I know that some religious people believe we are the only ones, but they made that up themselves.

Also, I do not claim to understand it all, but I believe that science can give us some hints about the creation.

"as all there is"

When did I ever state this?

"through which you view an absolute reality"

Yes, I believe I observe a tiny sliver of this overall reality. I don't necessarily think it is absolute, in the sense of never-changing or not mediated by perception and measurement.

What you really seem to have been arguing is that my perceptions have no correspondence at all with objects that exist external to myself, which just seems like plain old narcissistic solipsism.

I agree about the keyhole. I don't have a full perception of all that exists through my piddly senses. On the hand, to argue that what I see has no relation at all to an external reality that we all experience is not born out, in a practical sense. Otherwise, I'd probably be dead from running that red light that actually looked green to me or jumping off a 100 foot cliff that looked like small step to me.

"they would probably be mentally deficient or insane"

Well, there you go with your judgements of other people's belief systems.

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I think Mike was being descriptive of religious folk, not judgmental.




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"I would mock people who are apparently normal who believe that they know the true reality of everything"

I have met far more people like this who profess to be religious rather than atheist or agnostic in my short little existence. Scientists (or let's just say rational people), in my experience, are far more comfortable saying, "I don't know" than those who are doctrinal religious believers. The natural inclination of a scientifically-minded person is to study the question and to see if science can provide answers. Some might then even design experiments to test the validity of these answers.

On the other hand, religious people tend to believe that they already have most of the answers, even to questions that have not been asked yet. They are generally not all that comfortable with skepticism, which is the underpinning of science. Doubt and uncertainty are a difficult experience for many people, so they need things to be wrapped up for them with easy answers.

At least, that's my overgeneralized stereotype. There's a lot of mix and match. But I think, generally speaking, scientists and those with like minds are much more comfortable confronting "reality," or whatever you want to call it, head on rather than thinking up simplistic, a priori explanations for everything that exists, even before the homework is assigned.

I'm actually enjoying this 3 way debate, even if no one's mind will be changed. I happen to respect Dale's, Turk's and Mike's minds - they are good thinkers (most of the time). In this instance I have to side with Turkle. Also, methinks Dale and Mike are trying too hard to prove their points, whereas Turk is just stating the obvious.

Turkle's strongest point is that it is up to the others to try to prove God's existence, not for Turk to disprove it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and it is incumbent upon Mike and Dale to provide it.

What is the basis of your claims that God exists? Is it reliable evidence? All original claims of God's existence comes from the Bible. Do you really know the Bible is the word of God, or is that just another unprovable claim?

Does God approve of science? He must, because he structured our minds to operate in a manner condusive to looking at the world that way. Does science have some operating rules, rules that make it impossible to prove his existence scientifically? To me, this line of reasoning makes God's existence unlikely.

I won't go into the spirit in the sky description that Turkle uses (btw, X, I knew Norman Greenbaum pretty well), because it's already been said, but I happen to concur with him.

"The Bible only deals with life on Earth."

Yup, and its completely wrong on that account, too, just by virtue of omission. No mention of evolution or geology, not to mention the dinosaurs, trilobites, or bacteria. You'd think such essential parts of our earthly reality would have been included by a supreme being dictating his Holy Book to the peons.

What you actually get is a muddle-headed, wonky account of all animals being created at once, and then Eve being conjured up from Adam's rib bone. That's because the Bible is a bunch of ancient writings written by men, not God, and back then, people didn't have the foggiest notion about the natural world.

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At this point, the Bible is just good for laughs.

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Turk, here I disagree with you. The Bible is a pornographic book, full of violence, and is not very funny.

According to the Bible, women's vaginas taste like "wine" (Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9)

The Bible in Leviticus 20:21 allows for parents to marry their children!

A sister can have incestuous thoughts about her brother and about giving him "blow jobs" in her dreams and it isn't something wrong after all according to the Bible. Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me. I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house -- she who has taught me."

Women's breasts are important sexual objects, especially for licking and sucking! According to the Bible: "Dear brothers, I'm a walled-in virgin still, but my breasts are full— And when my lover sees me, he knows he'll soon be satisfied." Song of Solomon 8:10.

If a sister has a very attractive brother, the pornographic Bible advises her to try to sleep with him in bed!! Song of Songs 8:1-3

There are many more instances of porn in the Bible, but I'll stop there.

The violence in the Bible is so shocking it is not even suitable for CFN.

turkle,
"On the other hand, religious people tend to believe that they already have most of the answers, even to questions that have not been asked yet. They are generally not all that comfortable with skepticism, which is the underpinning of science. Doubt and uncertainty are a difficult experience for many people, so they need things to be wrapped up for them with easy answers."

You are confusing fundamentalist literalists, who are a minority of Christians. I have worked with many other Christian scientists, who do not treat the Bible as a science textbook. Much science has been developed by Catholic clerics, including, Copernicus, Mendel, Bacon and a host of others. The Jesuits a known for their scientific works.

I believe in a God, but I also believe in evolution. In my opinion, a God who could start a universe that 15 billion years would develop human life is greater that one who would have to hand make everything.

Even though many who do not take the Bible literally, can seek knowledge and wisdom in its stories. No human or group of humans can become even close to understanding God. That still does not stop me from believing. However, I do not force my belief on anyone who does not wish to know.

"I agree about the keyhole. I don't have a full perception of all that exists through my piddly senses. "

In the above statement you show the promise of being an agnostic, a position I can respect. However, the position that there absolutely is no God is a fundamentalist and unbending as the worst religious extremists.

People need religion like a baby needs a pacifier.

Take a pacifier from an anxious baby and he goes bonkers. Take religion from the billions of people who need it, and the world would become far crazier and more cruel than it is now.

Few people are constituted to endure the soul-deep sense of loneliness that comes with being a deist or an atheist.

Putting aside religion is not going to make the human race grow up. The growing-up has to come before the putting-aside.

Turkleton, in his previous incarnation as turkle,
insisted I had never met a 'psychic'.
Ive met a few, from 'mind reader charlatans' on thru to some of the best.

What about you Dale, have you ever met someone who had ESP? Or could 'sink their foot in rock'?

What about Obamas and Mitts believers?
Can you please mock them?
Ill take the Easter Bunny [an adaptation from spring fertility rites] over those 2 any day.

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I don't know that God was involved, nor that He wasn't. I do know that builders of the Great Churches of Europe believed they were working for the greater glory of God.

What interests me is how, in a feudalistic society, in which, allegedly, we are told, everyone had a place, determined by his or her birth, and knew their place, artistic and musical talent were recognized and encouraged. Not to mention intellectual ability; you might be surprised to learn how many Popes and other high churchmen were sons of peasants. Meanwhile, in late stage capitalism, in which we all have alleged "freedom" to "be what we want to be", square pegs are to be seen suffering and squirming in round holes where ever one looks.

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People will talk at length and with great enthusiasm about the existence or non-existence of God and about the foolishness or not of the great religions without ever mentioning the very thing that created these religions and gave them their billions of adherents--namely death and what comes after it.

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Theists think that they've solved the death problem by believing in God and by following his prescriptions. Atheists mock them for this, and rightly so. But many atheists are no better. Some seem to think that their disbelief solves, for them, the death problem. This is foolish.

Let us say that God does not exist. The fact of his non-existence has nothing, nothing whatever, to do with the fate of the human mind when the body that supposedly contains it ceases to live.

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That's all too often the problem with debate here....I never claimed god existed, only that believing that it doesn't (an unprovable negative) is no different than believing that it does, in terms of they are both belief systems. A purely objective POV would point out that there is both no evidence it does, and that it is also a rather persistent artifact of human experience. Persistent artifacts often turn out to have a referent, although perhaps not the one we imagine.

My other point was, and it's entirely lost on Turkle, is that what he thinks are self existent entities outside of himself, exist for him, only by way of sensory impressions, which are not the objects themselves. He insists this is solipsism because he simply doesn't understand the implications of getting beyond his own unproven assumptions.

...and now I'm bored with the subject and my cat is hungry.

I haven't met any "mind readers" per se. But as I said, I know when my cat wants a treat. My point was that, if Turkle wants to prove to me that science can read my mind, that is, comprehend the visual images it constructs and tell me what they were (not show me some wavy lines on a scope), he needs to cite the study where that was done, because I don't believe it.

Been looking at Facebook: my old girlfriend is a rising star in the Liberal/Democratic Hierarchy. Also named Michelle. She has a Black husband and frog faced little Black son.

My childhood friend turned queer as a three dollar bill.

The rock star I worked with came to nothing - she's now a tired looking middle aged woman who looks older than her years. She was quite beautiful and glamorous but never found the mark artistically. She was always trying to fit in with the current fad. Meanwhile the little dirtbag Mary Lou Lord rose from singing on the Boston subway to dating Kurt Cobain and getting signed. She looks radiant - far more beautiful than she did as a young woman.

And so it goes: Beings are rising and falling but all will die and face judgement. Luckily, because because beings are "no beings" they can ultimately be liberated from their selfhood - and all the judgement that comes with it. If Beings were really Beings there could be no liberation....

Mysterious Power: G.K Chesterton wrote a novel describing how Political Correctness and Islam would combine to threaten England - before WW1.

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Well the two naturally go together: If God or Spirit exists, then it is quite natural to assume that conscious beings are more than their physical bodies - that they are spirits too - less than God but somehow like Him, in his image, and/or especially loved by Him.

The idea that we survive death but that is no ultimate reality is a very strange one. Sylvan Muldoon, author of Projection of the Astral Body, seemed to hold this view. He very naturally left his physical body and explored other worlds, but felt that although interesting, it was ultimately meaningless. He was horrifed by the Knowlege that there was no death and he would go on and on...

The idea of the Buddhist Nirvana as exctinction may have comforted him - although Buddha said that that was an imbalanced conception of it - as was saying that it was personal survivial.

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Your post got me thinking about an old childhood acquaintance. Little did I know way back in the day that one of the players in our sandlot football games would end up being a truly great and recognized athlete. Our little games were almost an evening ritual in the summer and fall, with many of the neighborhood kids congregating at the local elementary school to pick teams for our tackle football battles. These games were rough skirmishes; we wore no helmets, pads, mouth guards, etc . The out-of-bounds line was the chain link fence and the goal line was delineated by a long metal jungle-gym type bar that welcomed a TD with a flip or jolt. Invariably, after an hour or two of beating the crap out of each other we would take a rest. Or on those nights when we wanted a treat of visual magic, someone would deliberately kick the ball onto the top roof of the school so we could grab a glimpse of a super-natural-born-thing in motion. And then off he went, up, up, up the tall cottonwood, all the way to the top it seemed, branch to branch, limb to limb - he was ‘The Proudest Monkey’ you ever did see (thank you Dave Matthews!). And then back down again, to the level of the second story roof where he would leap a ridiculously long distance without fear from the tree to the building, sometimes catching himself with no more than a fingernail grip. After pulling himself up onto the roof,and throwing the ball back down, he would then languidly hang from that very same roof again, until deciding to let go and transforming the fall itself into the landing of a cat.

Being bit older than the rest of us he eventually stopped coming to our games and so I fell out of contact with him. Truth be told, I didn’t have all that much respect for his sport back in those days. It wasn’t football, baseball or basketball and so I paid it little heed. And besides all that, he and his brother had this strange James Dean fashion thing going on with the rolled up white T-shirt sleeves. Which somehow seems appropriate in the reminscing aftermath; he was named "Theo" after all.

A few years after that I learned he was the state gymnastic champion, and then the NCAA champion. Eventually he ended up as a technical adviser to the US Men's Olympic gymnastic team.

Indeed. Astrology, Politics, Feng Shui, etcetcetc.
Alot of things vie for the 'true believers' [ which is the title of a great book].

Meanwhile Alex puts on her eye patch and plays pirate with and by herself. The Parrot watches in horrified amazement. He attempts to express his feelings in words but the only ones he knows are "Pieces of Eight, Pieces of Eight" and "Thar she blows".

Wait - did you tell that one before? If we all keep doing this for a few decades we'll know all of each other's stories till we don't know where we end and another begins. Remember that old Star Trek episode where they come upon the combined consciousnesses of the last 50 of a dead world? Their desire for life was too strong to be destroyed yet they couldn't stay apart from each other? Perhaps that's how they managed it?

The newer Star Treks were more sophisticated in some personal and social ways - but they all fell short of the original in terms of the possibilities of higher consciousness.

It is good to remember the past - something many Americans don't do with their busy lives. The kind of "present" that produces is a superficial "jazzed one" - closer to the animal than to the Eternal Present of the Zen Master. That Present includes the past and the future with its embrace.

I admit a good Sax solo is Soulful and can be a vehicle for some real time traveling.




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Asoka said:

Eleuthero, you doubling down on HYPOTECATE?
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Look, you can't even spell the word right. It's HYPOTHECATE and, yes, I'm "doubling down". You see, dopey, I have an UNABRIDGED dictionary and instead of giving a third meaning under "hypothecate" as a synonym for "hypothesize", the word "hypothecate" is DOUBLE LISTED and in the second list in Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary, it is, indeed a SYNONYM for hypothesize in addition to the meanings you displayed. It figures you wouldn't get it right because your dilettantism implies an inability to stay with a topic for one nanosecond beyond your own personal, private "proofs".

What you did was look at the abridged version of Webster's ONLINE and NOT at an ACTUAL unabridged dictionary. And you stopped a half-second after your "proof". Try reading BOOKS every now and then. The funniest part of this is that you have recently criticized your own habit of regarding Wikipedia's thoroughness and in this case it is INADEQUATE.

You want to double down, dude? Of course you won't because it's likely you don't have an unabridged dictionary BOOK in your residence. Now there's an insight.


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Asoka's drive to prove that "hypothecate" is not also a synonym for hypothesize proves that he not only doesn't read BOOKS ... he also doesn't even do his Internet research thoroughly.

Here is the link for Synonyms.com:

http://www.synonym.com/synonyms/hypothecate/

Where the following group of words are listed as the second sense of the meaning of "hypothecate":

Sense 2:
speculate, theorize, theorise, conjecture, hypothesize, hypothesise, hypothecate, suppose

Notice that the TWO spellings of "hypothesize" are in this list with "hypothecate". You can quit your pursuit now, Asoka. You've made yourself a fool twice over.


E.


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Great post, Jim. Great because on the ground where my friends, family, and their friends and family live. And all I see is tremendous struggle. Not a month goes by where I don't hear stories about people in their 50's or 60's unable to pay the taxes on their homes, having to give up telephone lines that have been in their family for 60 years, the constant paying of bills by credit because salaries do not allow for anything beyond hand-to-mouth styles of existence.

Joe Stiglitz showed months ago, on finance.yahoo.com, that the American middle class was now nonexistent with only token exceptions. That same site had an article today about how the vast majority of US jobs are flunky retail jobs with zero security and, usually, no healthcare and awful pay.

A "reality party", indeed. But what you didn't talk much about is the media's complicity in all of this with their use of the phoniest data on employment (the U3, not the U6, number ... much less Williams' even more accurate numbers in shadowstats). The media seems as determined as the politicians to paint a picture of a "gentle" downturn that we're "pulling out of". Even Obama insists that we just need to "do more" ... with the implication that "we've come a long way, baby".

Meanwhile, the number of direct reports I hear of sudden, rapid, personal economic collapses in my sphere of friends and their contacts is spiralling out of control. This is an out-and-out, full scale depression. It's just that the government reckons that 200,000 janitors with baccalaureates or better is being "fully employed". Sigh.


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You can quit your pursuit now, Asoka. You've made yourself a fool twice over.

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E., I quit when I apologized to you for my error. Perhaps you missed that post above. Perhaps you chose to ignore it. Perhaps you don't accept apologies.

I am a fool. I have admitted as much many times on CFN. I have never been Teacher of the Year.

BeingThere was correct: you are the most intelligent poster on CFN. This in no way detracts from my success as a fool. In fact, the contrast makes my foolishness even more apparent.

I am so happy you choose to spend your time reading and responding to the posts of a fool. I could hypothecate about what that makes you, but I will refrain.

PS. I hypothecate we are not in an economic depression. I could provide evidence, primary data, but of what value is evidence produced by a fool? Further, I hypothecate that you deny data produced by government agencies, so it is useless to continue to discuss with you. I hypothecate that we will never come to agreement because you are not a fool and I am a fool.

E.
Can't write much at work
BUT the beginning of a reality party is when we can all admit there's no middle class and we are not a part of it anymore.
The rest will follow....

Been away, for a while, sharpening my baffoonery. Have missed your post's, James, and this one is a great essay. Sadly for all of us, the majority of Americans will not and can not get past the 'my guy vs. your guy' syndrome. A suggestion to improve your site, though. Please continue to police the comments, throughout the week. Your site is being inundated with spam. At least a dozen toward the middle of the week. Perhaps you lose interest in the comments?

ragtop,
Just how does one go about sharpening one's buffoonery?
To buffoons like myself, these are essential techniques and further knowledge is always welcomed!

(And please advise me on where I might purchase a jacket for my goose, if you would please. Thanks in advance.)

BT, economist Richard Burk­hauser of Cornell has shown that, when the insurance value of health care and the value of certain government transfer payments are included in income, the top 20 percent of the income distribution experienced income growth of about 50 percent between 1979 and 2007 (in dollars adjusted for inflation).

He also notes that households near the top of the top 20 percent have achieved income gains of well above 50 percent. But the income of households between the 60th and 80th percentiles grew by 40 percent, and those in the 40th to 60th percentile grew by nearly 40 percent. In these numbers, the disappearing middle class appears pretty healthy.

"The Reality Party will adopt the attitude of what goes around comes around and do a 180 degree turn on foreign policy. Practicing the golden rule is a reality based position and the military industrial complex is killing us. They need to be put out of business and we need to take the high road." -K of Dog

I believe in those beliefs that leave others to handle their own affairs in peace.

To believe this doesn't require Jeebus to tell meddling or swindling assholes that they oughtn't do dat.
Simple experience might tell you that these beliefs (of minding your own fucking business) are the practical beliefs to believe in if you'd prefer you and yours not getting hurt. Versa vice, treat people fairly, and they're more likely to return the "favor".

There's plenty of other shit out there to hurt us, believe me! (If you don't believe me, just ask me, I'll tell you.)

I believe I'll believe in your golden rule-y type belief, as the evidence points to its' consequences being believable... for now.

Hey Kids!,
Did you think that the 1st Amendment was a Constitutional "reality" in Kali-fornia?
Looks like that reality has been redefined by legislative fiat. Better give it another think.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32358.htm

Are all legislatures legitimate? Dey gots da same root, so I guess-o.
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asoka,

I'll have to see if I can find the paper online. The problem I see, is why we are spending more on health insurance, that does not give us any better health care, and for many the amount that they have to pay out of pocket has increased. thus all of that increased "income" has been eaten up by health care inflation. I have to look to see how much of the "health care" inflation has gone to insurance companies, rather than actual medical care.

the cathedrals of the middle ages were constructed using energy, that energy was obtained by converting food into muscle power.
At that time control of food production, ie the land, was in the hands of the either the king or the church, you got your sustenance by working for one or the other, (by paying rents)
While cathedrals were being built, the workers lived in hovels, they had no access to the energy being used in the cathedrals.
Cathedral building was a job creation scheme that left the workers no better off,
Sounds familiar?

apologies for last Sunday morning, when you knocked on my door as I was responding to my good lady's demands for horizontal recreation.
I hope you reached the front gate before the dogs caught up with you.

Most of us live in a totally interdependent world at a point in history where the mistakes and powers of a few greedy men will amplify our misfortune of resource depletion.

We think if we could just join our voices and steer our leaders to accepting the need for clearer vision we could navigate the dilemmas about to be born of our stupidity.

This Blog is about discussing or arguing for against a perspective in these matters. And we can't even manage rational discourse at this level.

The futility of it all - at least JK's remonstrations have a sort of verbose, poetic rhythm. I wish the rest of you would try harder - I need the diversion......

Jim Sinegal, former CEO of Costco was just interviewed on CNBC. He is pro-Obama. He says "if you were asked 'are things better now than they were four years ago?' the answer, unequivocably, would be yes."

As you might expect, I lost as much respect for Mr. Sinegal as I did for Drew Brees last week.

It's unequivocally Mr. Sinegal. Jesus, and to think, this man headed up a giant corporation.

Hey,
I tried; I failed; I gave up. I apologize for this egregious flaw in my character and will strive to correct it in my next life.

You know the old saw: "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again... then give up; no sense being a damn fool about it."

Jim, although you are spot on with your observations about the failure of both parties to engage in a realistic conversation with their voters, and despite Obama's critical failure to restore the rule of law to our financial affairs, I would still claim that we should prefer the Democrats over the Republicans in this election.

Let's for a moment ignore the rhetoric from both sides and consider what's at stake. In the onset of the long emergency as we are currently experiencing, there will be hard choices to be made in the face of contraction. The Democratic way is better suited to considering the public good than the Republican - and that is quite critical in this situation.

If you examine past collapses in advanced societies (like the USSR), there was a better chance of both individual and group survival when society was more egalitarian.

So even if the Dems still delude themselves that the "American Dream" can carry on, many of them are equipped - at least in the back of their minds - with the sensibilities required to deal with upcoming events in a reasoned, fact-based approach. I wouldn't say the same for the vast majority of Republicans.

You can apologize. You can give up. That indicates you are not a damn fool. However, I hypothecate that, in spite of all you do correctly, someone will continue to call you a fool.

This Blog is about discussing or arguing for [or]against a perspective in these matters.
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Budi, in my 3+ years here at CFN I have noted privately, with some amusement, your frustration (and consistency) in trying to herd the commenters (like cats) in the direction you imagine "this Blog is about." You seem to think it is about resource depletion and what we are going to do about it. But, I assure you, what this blog is about (in order of importance) is:

. spelling and grammar
. the existence or non-existence of God
. goose-down jackets
. da joos and da blacks

Please get with the program or get lost!

And that's all I'm gonna say about this.
I've seen some nasty shit and if there is some almighty being have at it. If there is, he is a prick to the nth degree. I mean really, a lobster gets to grow a new leg but a 5 year old land mine victim can't? A mother of five dies and a serial killer walks? Explain that one to me please. Do't try to understand or find reason in the universe,You are WAY over your head.
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/god5.htm

This almost brought tears to my eyes.
Especially the guy being evicted, worried about his retarded child.
the film needs another 1000$ + to be made:

American Winter is a feature documentary that shines a light on the dramatic personal stories behind the country's worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

Produced and directed by Emmy award-winning filmmakers Joe and Harry Gantz (creators of HBO's Taxicab Confessions), the film presents a powerful portrait of our nation's economic downturn, as well as the impact of massive budget cuts to America's social safety net, from the point of view of families in crisis.

Ozone, thats old news to those who go elsewhere online.
I forget if I saw it first at TOO or Drudge or angry white dude.
Sick stuff, but no surprise.

Didya see the info about Elena kagan, at Occidental?

Why is it always after the fact, after the elections and after critical appointments that the real vetting of candidates finally takes place? Simple. When you have a clueless, apathetic and disengaged American populace, coupled with a leftist liberal media that’s already in the tank for the “Messharia,” you take the fast track to confirmation and worry about the repercussions later. After all, it’s a lot easier to select than it is to eject a political appointee.
Elena Kagan’s views render her the first Supreme Court Justice who actively favors the introduction of Sharia law into national Constitutions and legal systems
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Good list but don't forget about Cheez Doodles and NASCAR.

Maybe there is an Almighty Creator Overlord. They are just demented. Then it would all make sense.

MudMuck:'The Bible only deals with life on Earth'.

Oh Really? Then why does it mention Heaven?
And I dont mean Celestial Bodies above.

The Jewish version mentions 'shul'? a place in the ground, or an after death state???

What does The New Testament mention? Hell, Heaven, etc.

That's one of Eric Hoffer's books isn't it? Read it over thirty years ago and can't remember what's in it. Except the part about Americans being too docile.

And whatever happened to the working-class intellectual, of which Hoffer was a stellar example?

Janitors are fully employed and as far as obongos 'shovel ready jobs'go, Im still waiting.

Eluethero, check the Movie I posted about a few
comments earlier and if you would, critique it here.

Remember, working in a junk store is a 'Green Job', shovel ready, I assume.

Yes, its about 40 years old. If you want it, I assume its 'going for dirt cheap' on Amazon.

Much of that labor was seasonal and voluntary - just like with the Great Pyramids. No doubt the common man was proud to be creating something so wonderful - and happy for the good spiritual karma. It was something he could show his wife and children and feel proud.

Hovels? They would have been living in those Cathedrals or no. The Cathedrals were their Space Program, their Grand Coulee Dam, etc. But yes certainly they were poor compared to our rich poor. But even our wealthy lack the meaning that comes from living in a culture that believes in itself.

There was a small number of professional builders who supervised and did the fine work.

The slave labor aspect of the Pyramids has been exaggerated - funny Jewish History.

ripped,
Does a 2 year old child understand why his parents punish him? Does Dale's cat understand why he is trying to teach it algebra.

We often have to undergo pain to grow. Ask athletes, with no pain, no gain.

Maybe in the long run that suffering is insignificant. I can't judge, because I haven't lived long enough. Maybe in a few hundred years it will make sense.

Just because a supreme being doesn't do what you would do, doesn't mean that He/She does not exist. Also, since we cannot see or know everything God sees or knows doesn't mean God is evil, or that we are qualified to judge God's actions, or inactions.

anti,

I limited my comment to our physical world. Since, I was dealing with an avowed atheist who doesn't believe in heaven or hell. These two realms are clearly outside of our four dimensions.

Here is what CFN should be about:

1) Nuclear proliferation

2) Overpopulation

3) Environmental degradation

4) Permaculture

5) Simple living (re: diet, energy, etc.)

"Living simply that others may simply live."

6) Love and meditation

There is no limit to how many people we can love.

Welcome to the struggle, comrade. Some socialism is alright, but it has to be National as in America First. Some Communism is alright but it has to be local, voluntary - communalism in other words. Amish or Mennonite barn raisings are a fine example. The Scots Irish have always been very weak in this regard in comparison to German groups.

Some Capitalism is alright - but it has to be moral. And huge Corporations have to be in line with National Imperatives - and not vice versa. Instead of something onerous - the Executives should be proud to have attained the level where they can serve their Nation. This is how it is in Japan - a far superior system to our's.

Vlad, I agree with most of your post.

Your embrace of "some" communism, socialism, capitalism, etc. makes you large. You are showing that you, too, contain multitudes.

Well done!

1, 2, and 3 on my list are the most serious problems for continued human survival.

1) Nuclear proliferation

2) Overpopulation

3) Environmental degradation

4, 5, and 6 on my list are the solutions.

4) Permaculture

5) Simple living (re: diet, energy, etc.)

"Living simply that others may simply live."

6) Love and meditation

There is no limit to how many people we can love.

Everybody see the Convention last night? These people are desperate - trying to make themselves sound like All Americans, like Republicans.

Michelle was in rare form. But how does that jibe with her saying when Obama was elected, For the first time I'm proud of America?

My naam is Radu. Vlad is dead. Each day we must die and be born again...until the bigger Death called Death and the Great Death called Enlightenment. Until then, breathe in and out like Brahma. Holding your breath in is the Pralaya; holding your breath out is the lifespan of the Universe.

We need a mixed economy. No doubt about that at all. And communism is a perversion of communalism. I wont say the same about big Captitalism since some things just explode in growth - but obviously whole new dynamics come into play at that point. The owners and managers can't be irresponsible when the Nation now depends on them. Again why their petulance and rage? They should certainly have a place at the table of power and honor if they fufill their duty to citizens. Those who can't or don't want to should gracefully retire. Some people love starting companies and making them big - but then can't deal with it after that.

"These two realms are clearly outside of our four dimensions."

They don't exist. Someone made them up a long time ago to fool the peons.

Hey Turk you forgot the Fifth Dimention----

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoSocikOpHU

My husband watched the convention last night until the bitter end. I cooked dinner and I have to say that the democrats do a lot more yelling than the republicans. Normally, I get into a really happy state-of-mind when I'm in the kitchen, but I was highly irritated by all the yacking.

I still haven't decided who I'm going to vote for--I won't make a difference, and I may not vote at all. Nevertheless, listening to Michelle didn't help his case. So what if he's a loving father? That doesn't mean he's a good president.

But if I were voting for president based on stability of family, I'd vote Romney. Obama was essentially abandoned by his father and mother, and that makes for bad psychological juju.

When a child feels unwanted/abandoned, the situation makes them more likely to develop personality disorders such as borderline, narcissistic, and anti-social. Hence you see a lot of borderline kids born to poor, single mothers. These kids can't cope emotionally and have poor impulse control and end up with a rap sheet.

My two cents as a mom.

Good News! The two dominant groups at the Dem Convention, Homosexuals and Muslims, seem to be working out their differences.

I'm not sure, but it must have gone something like this:

Mustafa: "We'll permit Sodomy if you will back Sharia Law within the US".

Rachel Maddow: "If you make an exception for Sodomy, we will agree to live under the tenets of Sharia Law".

See, that's what I call Cooperation! All is well!

--WSP7

Abortionists, the other influential Lib Pressure Group, will have to come to some sort of agreement as well. That one might be tougher; might have to bring some Top Imams in from Saudi Arabia and Egypt to work it out with Obama ...

--WSP7

AntiSoak, that was a good one! (murder and state funded sex change operation in Mass. prison system)

All part of the ongoing, endless saga of the American Freak Show!

--WSP7

Vlad said:
Welcome to the struggle, comrade. Some socialism is alright, but it has to be National as in America First. Some Communism is alright but it has to be local, voluntary - communalism in other words. Amish or Mennonite barn raisings are a fine example. The Scots Irish have always been very weak in this regard in comparison to German groups.

Some Capitalism is alright - but it has to be moral. And huge Corporations have to be in line with National Imperatives - and not vice versa. Instead of something onerous - the Executives should be proud to have attained the level where they can serve their Nation. This is how it is in Japan - a far superior system to our's.
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Because the Executive level of firms now have a sociopathic attitude towards their employees and their communities, there is little use appealing to their civic consciousness. The size of the group they serve is the upper two percent of shareholders. As they lay off thousands of soccer moms, offshore jobs, and give themselves raises while their revenues fall, it's clear that the corporate boardroom has about as much "conscience" as an axe murderer.

I agree with your assertions, Vlad, but we need a DICTATOR to implement them. The clowns in American politics now will only tweak the system in marginal ways until the whole thing just collapses ... which I believe is the back half of this decade. Might as well just getting ready for it. Worse things could happen that a dictatorial coup. I'm actually hoping for such a thing.

The mechanisms are in place for more of what's been happening since the 1980s and that means political leaders and titans of industry will keep on keeping on which means we're all going to be serfs.


E.

When the debate on who is to lead the country is planned in such a way as to deliberately not deal with reality and issues which really matter to the nation.

Then:

It's no wonder that issues of sodomy and religion take center stage.

Religion should be totally irrelevant we have separation of church and state. As to sodomy I have nothing to say about that shit except to say live and let live.

I hope your not amused by the carnival. I hope your bile rises in outrage.

E.,

You're discernment is keen. Let's hope for a benevolent dictator.

A dog with a strong bark and a gentile paw !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The novelist Martin Amis is famous for his dazzling style. But for me, these days, his writing is a bit too much. I'm too old, or something. At any rate, while turning the pages of his latest (Lionel Asbo), I came across an Amis kind of joke: " upper class c--t walks into a bar with a pile of wet dogshit in his hand and announces, LOOK WHAT I ALMOST STEPPED INTO."

Is this what loving father do Michelle‽

Drone strike kills 5

But QUOBAMA wont talk about drones. Citing national security reasons the man who pushes the button won't talk about the button.

And a rational reality based thinking dog would give the man another four years why?

✈ report ↑

Oh foolish me, loving fathers can do this because it was Al-Qaeda .

I have a neighbor who has a tree that offends me on the property line. I think the neighbor is a member of Al-Qaeda. Can I have a Drone?



Osama conducting operations from beyond the grave. Oh that's right he didn't get one.

I have to fix my mistake.

Is this what a loving father does Michelle

You know, while I was typing that post I was asking myself, "have I posted this before? ".Well maybe I have, or maybe it was my post on San Antonio Texas. But who really cares.

Trying to meet a deadline for a show and my brain is turning to silly puddy. And while I'm sweating getting the work done my female other is worried about what clothes to wear. Typical.

That looks to be a good book.

I'd like to read it. Apparently there are pit bulls that blaspheme in lieu of barking in it.

I like that.

Lets see: 2030 - 2012 = 18 years.

In eighteen years the Saudis will become oil importers. Both Obama and Romney will no doubt say we can sell oil to them using our Nord Dakoda fields (ya sure you betcha) and Greenland having much less ice by them might be able to help the poor Saudis.

I'm sure the average American will become oil poor long before this so perhaps we will teach them new oil free life styles by example when the time comes. I expect that's the solution reality will favor.

And as we evolve the oil free lifestyle that we will eventually teach the Saudis the most important thing to remember through the many changes to come is that:

All Dogs Eat

The Bad News

At Angrywhite dude.com someone said what they thought of the DNC:

Maybe my figures are a tad off, but I’ve always heard that small businesses hire approximately 80% of American workers.

With that said, not once during the DNC tonight have I heard anything about small business… instead, I’ve heard all about a women’s right for an abortion, I’ve heard how Obama fought for gays to come out of the closet and enter the military, and I’ve heard how every little special interest group has a right to succeed in this country.

[Pandering to the ‘grievance groups’, with Sandra Fluck there!].

Its 'dimension', OK?
Up up and away in a beautiful balloon.

Joe Stiglitz showed months ago, on finance.yahoo.com, that the American middle class was now nonexistent with only token exceptions.

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XXX5, how are you defining "middle class"?

Saying the middle class is nonexistent is meaningless since you provide no parameters.

Most analysts define the middle class as some chunk in the middle of the income distribution -- say the middle fifth or some variation there in (e.g., 40th to 80th percentile) -- which of course cannot, by definition, be "nonexistent."

Think about it for just a moment. You are intelligent, but in this instance you are posting nonsense.

I just heard a speaker at the convention whining about his poor friend who is supposed to go to Univ. of North Caroline, she's a great scholar, yada, yada, yada. But she's illegal so they want to export her.

So what?

CORRECTION

Most analysts define the middle class as some chunk in the middle of the income distribution -- say the middle fifth or some variation therein (e.g., 40th to 80th percentile) -- which of course cannot, by definition, be "nonexistent," as you claim.

Think about it for just a moment. You are intelligent, but in this instance you are posting nonsense.

But she's illegal so they want to export her. So what?

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Do you love the United States?

Your "so what?" is offensive.

Human beings are not "exported" ... they can be deported. But then the United States loses.

Ask not for whom the bell tolls.

No man is an island, entire of itself ... Any man's deportation diminishes me

Anti,

Read in the paper today that some judge in Massachusetts declared that an inmate is entitled to get sex change operation while in prison.

Your tax dollars at work.

Spiritual evolution is an improvement in the quality of our consciousness. If we just go along to get along our consciousness quality doesn't
just not improve but will degenerate as our physical and social environment based in nonreality beliefs ideology and doctrines increases its entropy.Spiritual evolution requires facing truth ie. reality ;truth about our own state and truth about what we have done in our quest for a dream .Maybe you believe you are one of the chosen one's and a heavenly abode awaits or infused with the entrepreneurial spirit you will savour the fruits of your American dream.Some day the dream will die and those that remain will eventually realize that there is truth and living within reality is bringing more security joy and peace than the old ways based on mindless economic growth getting more than your neighbour war exploitation inequality waste discrimination etc.

The Republicans have learned that the next time they stage a debate with a chair in front of millions of people, they should not have the chair win the debate.

What do you hypothecate the middle class to be?

E.,
Is there such a thing as a "connivance"? If there is, this is a spot-on example from the laddie:

"Welcome to the struggle, comrade. Some socialism is alright, but it has to be National as in America First."

(Well, the first spout is a blatant pander to someone other than myself.) Class "struggle"; "comrade". Nice little com'uh'nust allusions to draw in what suckers there may be. (Damn few.)

"Socialism"; "National"; "America First".
That there's straight from the word-implanters playbook.
National Socialist Party; Deutchland Uber Alles.

Come now, this is entirely too transparent. I'll not be branded as a supporter of the Glorious 4th Reich in any way, shape or form. The Third should be a lesson in abject horror and what-not-to-do, but apparently not for some of "the volks".

Sorry, no "comrades" here.

Your response allows me to provide more clarity:

K-Dog Foreign policy shall rest on these principles.


❶ Facts matter, even if we do not like them. We don't fight reality, we work with it.

❷ Elementary moral principles matter, even if they have consequences that we would prefer not to face. Pups do not do this but mature adult dogs do, sadly some pups never grow up.

❸ Relative clarity matters. Definitions are often be imprecise but we should always seek enough clarity at least to distinguish clearly distinguish between right and wrong, between terror and what could be legitimate resistance for example.

❹ We shall be relentless in demanding justice and fair play for all. All dogs must eat.

Definitions are often be imprecise

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Damn, K-Dog, you tryin' to speak Ebonics?

You be messin' it up, bro!

CORRECTION

Damn, K-Dog, you tryin' to speak Ebonics?

You be messin' it up, DOG!

He decides to play 'daddy' sometimes and treat you like a privileged son. He has done it to me and while the fur along my back went straight up the first time he did but it has never done it again.

Oh a Correction:

❸ Relative clarity matters. Definitions are often imprecise but we should always seek enough clarity...

Number three means to look at issues deeply, not to stop issue probing when your understanding of an issue fits with your world view.


That grasshopper is not the time to quit.

Darling, I have 2 posts about 'her', up thread.
'She' killed her wife and is doing life, we hope.

TRIPP, This ones for you
The earthworm that hopefully will be bred, and its progeny go in alot of compost heaps.

'n Binchaun County, China, a snake-like earthworm measuring over 19 inches (a half-meter) long was found in a house gutter.
Li Zhiwei, a Forestry Bureau worker, made the discovery and eventually decided to keep the worm and raise it in his backyard.
An adult earthworm's measurements vary by species and can range anywhere from 10mm long and 1mm wide, to 3-meters long and over 25mm wide. Environmental factors also influence an earthworm's body size, and they tend to grow longer and larger during humid seasons if they take in sufficient nutrition and have no natural enemies.

Biologists plan to study the earthworm found by Li to classify it and identify the reason it was able to grow to its current length'.

I understand that this is a good example of taxpayer funded foolishness.
Now, how much longer can this stuff continue? Not long, I'd wager. Reality of fiscal circumstances will intrude.

Lest another correctosaurus beat me to it.

fur along my back went straight up the first time he did it, it has never done it again.

Perhaps this is a job for the stick.

a job for the Stick.

I don't know anything about this but I imagine it will make being somebody's bitch a lot easier.

I like your "further expansions"! (Yes, I read around and through your editing and typos to get the gist of the grist. No problemo, Perro.)

Paul Craig Roberts is saying all of the things the Democrats should be saying at their convention, but they are too wimpy.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/05/republicans-cross-the-rubicon/

Noteable quote from link above:

He once asked our protectors if they were practicing for some competition.
The answer was, “No, we are preparing to control the outcome when there is trouble.”

[dont ask if but 'when'].

'The Bible is a pornographic book, full of violence, and is not very funny.'

Sounds like life at rajneeshpuram or 'the land' Oregon.
Osho with his 90? 100? rolls Royces and the followers [according to his bodyguards book]
'at the bus station, their few belongings in boxes, when the place closed down'.

Buck, it's putty.

When and where is your one man show?

It could be worse: you could be a slave picking "Florida Slavery Tomatoes". One county in Florida is the epicenter of slavery in America today and most of the slaves pick tomatoes. Buy a Florida tomato, support slavery. You'd think the governor would be concerned about letting the image of such a big industry get trashed, but he doesn't appear to be.

For info. on why Obama turned into W's third term, see this Gary North. North is a libertarian from the right--there are libertarians from the left--and he has great insights into things. He says the country is run by 2 flavors of the Council on Foreign Relations. He thinks the most plausible reason is that they're holding some fraud in his law license over him: http://lewrockwell.com/north/north1194.html You can search for Gary North and CFR to find his other articles on the CFR control of the world; good reading.

anti soak, the Bible is full of violence. Christians has a long history of violence.

I respectfully direct you to the academic, peer-reviewed literature to dispute your claim about Osho and violence. All your information seems to come from one biased source, an ex-sannyasin.

From 1981 to 1986, most outsiders foretold bloodshed at Rajneeshpuram, the communal city in
central Oregon that was built around an Indian charismatic leader, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (later known as Osho).

However, violence never escalated to the point of mass murder, suicides, or large, collective attacks.

The Rajneesh case provides a fruitful context to explore the question: How is large-scale collective violence in new religions averted?

The case of Rajneeshpuram foregrounds three factors that were most important to relatively peaceful resolution of a situation fraught with danger:

1) life-embracing doctrine,

2) devotees’ continued contact with networks outside Rajneeshpuram, and

3) law enforcement committed to due process.

SOURCE: Goldman, Marion S. "Averting Apocalypse At Rajneeshpuram*." Sociology Of Religion 70.3 (2009): 311-327.

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Christians have a long history of violence.

Why don't you show some spine and stand behind the article you posted? The Jews are 40% of the Billionaires at 3% or so of the population. And they are the most organized people on Earth with thousands of interlocking organizations both domestic and international - all created for the benefit of the themselves. That's alot of concentrated power - the Jewish Power structure is the fist of the American 1%.

If you oppose the 1% you oppose them - and they will fight you whether you name them or not. It doesn't take two to make a fight - it only takes one.

You don't want to be called a Nazi so you act like a coward. You are so confused.

So you admit the rapes and broken bones resulting from the "chaotic meditation"?

The lower predominates in Man - let go of restraints and don't be surprised at what happens.

You are knocking on Fascism's door. Hopefully Burt Lancaster will answer and put the Jonseys in their place. General McCrystal has a good jaw, perhaps he is the Man.

In Ancient times, in many societies, there was a War King as well as the Peace King. We need the Winter King to restore order and crush the Plutocrats. Hopefully he will be willing to step down once the job is done - or stand for election.

I would allow a man to be President for unlimited terms though. If by some miracle you get a Warrior Saint or a Philosopher King you don't want to mess with that. On the other hand, the Supremes should have six year terms or something. They are ruining us and we don't have the vitality to recall them though I hear that's in the system theoretically. Has it ever been done though?

All your information seems to come from one biased source, an ex-sannyasin. (asoka to anti soak)

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The Goldman article published in 2009 draws upon about 50 sources, weighing different points of view before hypothecating, not just one disillusioned individual.

Politicians on both sides pander to our sense 'of what feels right.' Michelle's 'good father' approach appeals to family values...a Republican stronghold. The question for me becomes who is going to accomplish the real needs of where we as a country need to be going. Neither side is winning me over. I will still vote because of the local issues at hand. Incidentally, I didn't vote for either presidential candidate at the last election...I left that one blank.

Paul Craig Roberts seems to be saying that a Republican administration would resemble the regime of Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte after the September 11th coup d'état.

Would you agree or is this stirring the pot so as to make a tempest in a teapot making the republicrat contest appear to be important when actually the choice the major parties present is a choice between tweedledum and tweedledee?

What do you think?

You forgot nudity. That also happened in no-holds barred encounter groups and those groups were what drew many to voluntarily engage in those activities. Nobody was forced to participate in encounter groups. People paid to get in. Thousands of people worked through their neurosis, and the therapeutic effect of groups allowed people to go deeper into meditation.

MuddMike,

I'm not sure what to make of Paul Craig Roberts. At times he touches on some touchy issues; at other times he seems like the maniacal, obsessed principal in Ferris Bueller's day off.

And I am missing something regarding former KGB head Putin? Some of the posters from this site have been writing affectionately about him and now Roberts portrays him as something far less than demonic?

What is Putin doing to work on the three most important issues facing human survival?

1) Nuclear proliferation

2) Overpopulation

3) Environmental degradation

I believe I might be the last, or one of the last, alas.

There are a few to be found among various minority groups, but they ain't speaking to the rest of us.

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The Universe is an upside down Tree with the roots uneen, lost in the heavens. Thus it's good to meditate on still water where you can see the reflections of upside down trees.

Very nice visual and very cool thought. But now I quibble. Trees seen as reflections in water are not upside down but rather laying down horizontal. In other words, that sweet spot between up and down... The Middle Ground.

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k properly i knew all that but you make it audio much over i believed it was also with dust isnt that exactly what the dust filter over the travel vent is for but anyway my desktop drive is exposed to a lot of dust (and even a great deal more cat hair) and a few static frequently and its lasted me 3 many years up to now i'm able to fully grasp the phisical shock aspect a ton but concerning the antistatic bags exactly where can i get among those thats re-sealable like a ziploc bag is or somthing like that but after i bought it WD had only an antistatic (non resealable) bag around it and it was held in the box by two skinny plastic,mac makeup cheap, effectively. thingys to soak up shock and from what i could inform then wouldnt do significantly over take in aspect to side movement not a unexpected influence but again how about portable HDDs i've an inclosure and which has no padding no anti static or anti dust but but that by some means keeps them operating (even though i cant utilize it within a push bay and i cant carry about the resources to open up it and throw away all that point to use it like a carrying case)

there's a distinction between transportable drives and internal drives. Portable drives were create especially to be carried about. The plastic when you get in touch with it really is shock and static resistant although portable drives can nonetheless be harm when you drop it.

Inner drives have absolutely no safety outside from the pc situation.

as far as delivery in the inner push. It has greater than an antistatic bag, the packing itself is shock resistant. You might have foam or cardboard that holds the travel in location, commonly within the heart on the box.

"job creation scheme that left the workers no better off"? Building of the gothic edifice we now have at Chartres began in the late 12thC. The cathedral was consecrated in 1260, not quite a century later. The first compliment of workers were long dead by then.

I think your true objection is best stated as follows: What good is a masterpiece, however much admired and revered, if no one was able to make a fortune on it?

There is a profound difference between production for use and production for profit. The later has brought us the luxuries and conveniences of modern life and also the pervasive ugliness and squalor we see all around us.

I did that too in a California camp years ago. Just came to my senses and realized a bunch of pervs trying to get off on me...so I left.

Great! It is all part of the learning experience.

I'm glad you came to your senses and had the courage to leave. (not all groups are the same; group leaders also vary, as will your experience)

Learning how to be an individual and resist group pressure is a valuable lesson to learn.

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SUPER x Liberty Lucia Sunglass Collection


--> --> No. 01 / 11 Browse Gallery For Spring 2011 Italian eyewear brand SUPER has teamed up once again with Liberty of London to work on several colorways of their Lucia sunglasses. As part of the collaboration the two came up with overall three colorways, each featuring the signature colorful flower patterns of Liberty. Limited to 75 pieces per colorway, the sunglasses are available exclusively at Liberty and in the Super online store.Many detailed images of the sunglasses follow after the jump. libertysunglassessuper Fancy Related Posts August 18 polo fred perry, 2012 LOOK/SEE Sunglasses – Elephant Print, Reflective and Dexter Collab August 8, 2012 Liberty x Nike Sportswear “Pepper” Collection August 8, 2012 Oliver Peoples x Parabellum Sunglasses August 7, 2012 Buyer’s Guide: 7 Great Pairs of Round Sunglasses





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Japanese brands M&M and Affa got together to make some leather bracelets. The bracelets come in black and brown in high quality leather, nice and thick. Also they are nicely packaged in wooden boxes.These are now available at Figure. Check out more pictures after the jump. affabraceletsleatherm and m Fancy Related Posts June 21, 2012 President’s Silver Bracelet Collection June 8, 2012 A.P.C. Mental Bracelet May 23, 2012 Antiatoms “Paper Containers” Leather Collection May 15, 2012 Cartier ‘Juste un Clou’ Collection – Honeyee Editorial featuring Hiroshi Fujiwara polo fred perry, NIGO & Others



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--> No. 01 / 06 Browse Gallery Honoring the legend of Julius “Dr. J” Erving and the shoe he made history in, Converse recreates the classic silhouette in a premium crafted version and announces the First String Standards Dr. J Pro Leather.“The original shoe launched in 1976, the Pro Leather shoe is not only the shoe that Dr. J made famous, it’s the shoe that ushered in the modern era of basketball footwear. Kicking off the collection, Converse will unveil the classic white and navy color way. Crafted with rich leathers and premium construction, like early versions, the shoe comes in clean, white uppers contrasted with a navy stitched Star Chevron logo.”Only 168 of the white/navy version will be available, beginning Friday, August 5. Conversejulius ervingSneakers Fancy Related Posts August 30, 2012 Nike Air Force 1 Foamposite Low Holiday 2012 August 29, 2012 Starks x Vans OTW Woessner August 29, 2012 Jordan Son of Mars “Bordeaux” August 29, 2012 Vans OTW x Primitive Blvd Denim Bedford





Visvim Spring/Summer 2009 Collection | Hockney Folk & Christo Stripe


--> No. 01 / 09 Browse Gallery Two new shoes have released from the Visvim Spring/Summer 2009 Collection. The Hockney Folk we already showed you in the new red and black colorways, here now the others – yellow fred perry cuir noir, orange and navy. The Christo sandal by Visvim comes this season featuring a stripe design. It will be available in black, beige and military green. Via Hypebeast/Sample Kicksz.Detailed images of both the new Visvim Spring/Summer 2009 Hockney Folk and the Christo Stripe follow after the jump. sandalsShoesvisvim Fancy Related Posts August 31, 2012 Marni Flannel-Panelled Leather Brogues August 31, 2012 F.I.L. Store Singapore – A Look Inside August 30, 2012 Christian Louboutin Brings Men’s Only Store to NYC – A Look Inside August 28, 2012 Y-3 Drake Fall/Winter 2012





John Waters for Milkcrate


No. 01 / 02 Browse Gallery The mischievous John Waters connects with fellow Baltimore native Aaron LaCrate for a special edition Milkcrate t-shirt. “Have Sex In A Voting Booth” is the message.Perhaps the beginning of something larger. In any event, more images follow. art productFashionjohn watersmilkcrate Fancy Related Posts August 30, 2012 G-Star by Marc Newson Fall/Winter 2012 August 30, 2012 Video: 10.Deep Fall 2012 Collection Preview August 30 fred perry cuir noir, 2012 Rag & Bone Spring/Summer 2013 Lookbook Starring NYC Skaters August 29, 2012 In My Boyfriend’s Clothes – Sophia





Schott NYC x Converse Chuck Taylor All Star Leather Jacket – White


--> No. 01 / 05 Browse Gallery Those of you lucky enough to snag a copy of Highsnobiety Magazine Issue 2 will no doubt have seen these already, however, today Converse has officially announced the new white version of the Schott NYC Leather Jacket Chuck Taylor All Star sneaker. As with the black and navy blue versions, the shoe features key design elements that tie back to the Schott Perfecto motorcycle jacket, including: heavy zips, quilted lining, snaps on the tongue and leather detailing. Available April 15, 2011 for at select Converse First String retailers including Stussy (New York, NY), Blends (Costa Mesa, CA), St. Alfred (Chicago, IL) and Kicks Hawaii (Honolulu, HI).More images follow after the click. converse chuck taylorschott nycSneakers Fancy Related Posts August 30, 2012 LaMJC x Undefeated x colette x New Balance MT580 August 30 polo fred perry, 2012 Air Jordan 1 Mid Metallic Platinum August 30, 2012 Vans x Kenzo Authentic & Slip-On Fall/Winter 2012 August 30, 2012 Christian Louboutin Brings Men’s Only Store to NYC – A Look Inside





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--> --> No. 01 / 14 Browse Gallery LA based footwear brand Stampd’ presents their new collection. Stampd’ pays attention to detail through fabrics and new silhouette options for their Fall/Winter 2010 Collection. A mixture of ballistic nylons, and leathers were used along-side an integration of hardware and classic pattern options. Prints polo pas cher, gold and silver studs and more decorate their footwear in the coming season. Also the much anticipated TISA collaboration with Taz Arnold is coming as part of this new collection.Check out the complete sneaker offering of the brand after the jump. Sneakersstampd Fancy Related Posts August 31, 2012 10 Cool Items Available This Week – Camo Janoskis, Middle Finger Keys and More August 31, 2012 Vans Syndicate ‘Jazz Stripe 35′ Pack August 31, 2012 Supra Falcon August 31, 2012 Nike Free Run+ 2 Suede Pack





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Great! It is all part of the learning experience.

I'm glad you came to your senses and had the courage to leave. (not all groups are the same; group leaders also vary, as will your experience)

Learning how to be an individual and resist group pressure, peer pressure, family pressure, parental pressure, CFN pressure, etc. is a valuable lesson to learn.

Great comment, Phaedrus.
And, yes, that check is in the mail. (You know, the one that has no possibility of being voided/cancelled.)

(I really have no idea why some suggest that I ally myself with fools and dogmatic, power-hungry psychos.)

Obama has a net job creation of 4.5 million jobs in four years. That is more than the net job creation of George W. Bush in eight years.

Since 1961:

In 28 years of Republicans: 28 million jobs created

In 24 years of Democrats: 42 million jobs created

Don't look at what they say: look at what they have done. The Democrats have delivered on job creation.

The previous post refers to PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS and I overestimated Republican job creation. Republicans created four million fewer jobs than I said.

Here are the net increases in private-sector employment under each president, chronologically by party:

Republicans

Richard Nixon: Increase of 7.1 million jobs
Gerald Ford: Increase of 1.3 million jobs
Ronald Reagan: Increase of 14.7 million jobs
George H.W. Bush: Increase of 1.5 million jobs
George W. Bush: Decline of 646,000 jobs

Total: Increase of 23.9 million jobs under Republican presidents

Democrats

John F. Kennedy: Increase of 2.7 million jobs
Lyndon B. Johnson: Increase of 9.5 million jobs
Jimmy Carter: Increase of 9.0 million jobs
Bill Clinton: Increase of 20.8 million jobs
Barack Obama: Increase of 332,000 jobs

Total: Increase of 42.3 million jobs.

"We left him a total mess. He hasn't cleaned it up fast enough. So fire him, and put us back in."

-- President William Clinton

Don't listen to what they say.
Look at what they do.

Since 1961:

DEMOCRATS: Total increase of 42.3 million jobs.

REPUBLICANS: Total increase of 23.9 million jobs.

And the Republicans had 28 years in office. Democrats created more jobs in only 24 years.

Don't listen to what they say.
Look at what they do.

Buck,
Regarding JPR’s writings about Putin.

To start, I think that it is good idea to leave Putin to Russians to worry about.
America, sometimes, remind me on a couple who spent their entire married life discussing other peoples’ marriages just to find themselves one day in divorce court with “irreconcilable differences” as a reason for split, and on the way out from court still discussing about other people. It is almost that, collectively, US has acquired that permanent Diane Sawyer-esque concern/worry face constantly percolating about other countries ways of life. their leaders, “human rights” …and, many times, all seen through distorted “Elvis” sunglasses.
I am increasingly worried lately by mindboggling hints or blatant use of “communism and Marxism” in many posts as a main culprit for our current demise. Where that came from?
In Cuba, NC and some of former “communist” countries, I can bet, that they still do balance math by pencil on brown bags for any financial transaction. Millisecond derivatives trading is not high on their list. Seven useless banking clowns that we’ve seen “grilled” by the Congress few years ago are the Communists?
Santa Claus look-alike from 19-th century, or, what ruling elite would like us to believe, that Castro, NC RIP or Chavez (or even Putin) did all this to us?
I asked Vlad similar question while ago with no answer so please can you help me if I am not getting something right.

BTW, excellent post by Jim. The best since I’ve stumbled into this blog couple years ago.

Don't listen to what they say.
Look at what they do.
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But don't be overly concerned about crimes against humanity.

Is there a particular methodology to ascertain what factors and resources might constitute a "sustainable" political subdivision?

Are there clues to these factors in nations currently in existence? What resources are necessary for a sustainable economy across diverse political subdivisions?

Can all of the future be managed by addressing non-prostituted aspects of market concepts - such as "supply and demand?"

You can have crimes against humanity with more jobs at home (Democrats), or you can have crimes against humanity with fewer jobs at home.

Or you can vote for Dr. Jill Stein and have no crimes against humanity and even more jobs, green jobs, at home.

No, the Banksters are the main cause but I axe (Black English) you: who funded the Communists? The International Bankers did. No question. It is simply unbelievable how few even ask this - as if peasants with mattocks and pitchforks could have accomplished the overthrow of one Society after another.

But why? Because in order to have all power (and thus all wealth) the Aristocrats had to be destroyed. And now they are coming for the middle classes and the Democratic Republics. Our achilles heel? The poor. The minorities. Colonialism. So guilt trip us into despair, go around laws so as to favor minorities - thus weakening the Bill of Rights and you are almost home.

From another angle: who funds both Parties? The Party of the poor and that of the Rich? The Bankers - Goldman Sachs in particular. As the Jew Mika said - with no irony, "They are doing God's work" - to tear down Gentile Society in other words.

This is the fundamental tenet of all mainstream Conspiracy Theory. If you want a simple and easy introduction to this, order Gary Allen's "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" at Amazon for a few cents. His fundamental image - the vise - with the middle class crushed between the Super Rich and the enraged Poor whom the Rich have agitated.
A dangerous game? Certainly, some of the Aristocrats who backed the French Revolution ended up losing their heads. But they are not deterred. Evidently, they feel they are far enough above the fray to be safe.

You are an abject fool and coward, always angry but lacking the character that leads to clarity of intellect.

Yes the horizontal is important too - thus the cross: spirit meeting matter. Wish I had my Black Elk Speaks -he gives a very beatiful explanation of this from his own Tradition.

The Gnostic element of the Traditions dismisses the horizontal. This may be appropriate in the practice of certain advanced individuals for a time, but to let it characterize a Tradition is simply impoverisment.

Things go downhill very easily in this Kali Yuga. Nudity is not Nakedness but lust will make you feel naked. I took off my clothes at a couple of Rainbow Gatherings and did my best not to make any nude women feel naked. Then I encountered some very hard eyed Gays at the Gathering and it felt like the Fall of Man. I mean they're Gay and Gay is Good. They don't have to practice good manners like those poor breeders...

A learning experience as you say. I don't bother with such things anymore. There were some interesting folks at those Gatherings - many old Hippies become Conservatives and even Red Necks. They had learned.

The real problem is that it's just not ecologically sound to pack tens of thousands of people into a few square miles. Better to have small gatherings. And for some, the whole gathering/concert circuit just becomes a way of avoiding what they need to do - ground.

Well said. What price beauty? When these people see a forest they just see potential lumber.

Last week I read an article (and posted a link to it here at CFN) about Brazil instituting a draconian affirmative action plan that would result in Blacks securing 50% of available university admissions, up from 20%, by 2016.

I cannot say for certain what criteria are used at present for admissions by universities - presumably academic merit - but in the future it will be race first and merit secondarily. At least this is my interpretation of the article.

When I read the article about Brazil it recalled to memory something that took place decades ago in Boston. An attempt was made to balance the hiring of firefighters with the goal of having it match the ethnic makeup of the city. If the city was 35% minorities then 35% of firemen should be minorities, the thinking went.

Even two not too swift Irish identical twin brothers - the Malones - quickly figured the way around this was to claim they were Black. Read the story here:

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/10/09/us/boston-case-raises-questions-on-misuse-of-affirmative-action.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Something similar is destined to happen in Brazil.

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We know that inside the corporate-sponsored convention hall, there are many glowing speeches and lots of well-funded spin. But out here, the reality remains that nearly half of Americans live in or near poverty.

The vast majority of young people don't have health care, are shut out of college, or are weighed down by the chains of student debt, and nearly a quarter of our young adults are unemployed. Meanwhile, the climate crisis is getting worse by the month, and the White House is doing nothing meaningful to reverse it.

Cheri and I are out here with the marchers, and we're talking with the media. We'll be on the national Moyers show tomorrow night. But we need your donations, right now, in the next 12 hours, to put our TV ads on the air so that we can continue to crash the airwaves with our message that there is a solution -- a Green New Deal -- that a Green president will deliver.

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K-Dog The intelligent choice.

we are not going to accept reality until it comes up and kicks us in the collective teeth---or elsewhere.
even commenters on here turn the problem into a political problem, something to be argued over between parties, as if that will somehow rectify the problem.
It is in our short term interests to deny deny deny, because our human psyche has evolved over millenia to worry only about the food.shelter/ warmth we have right now. If we have enough to eat, and the security to breed and raise offspring, that is all nature requires of us. If we fail, then in natures terms, we are disposable; someone stronger and fitter will breed if we can't manage it.
sorry to be brutal folks but lets cut the waffle about reality, because that is what it means in a future without our oil cushion.
http://www.yourmedievalfuture.com/

Great website and I agree 100% with what you say.

However,

Commenters here are not turning the problem into a political one. You are correct in identifying the problem as not being political but contemporary politicians do not address the problem at all and the solution to the problem requires politics. Unfortunately.

If our leaders do not deal with reality nobody can.

Concerning political parties, we'd be better off without them.

Kyoo,

In his memior, Richard Feynman, talkes about teaching physics to Brazilians. (I'm sure at that time, most his students were whitish.)
Apparently, the kids couldn't grasp the big picture. Inspite of it all, he managed to learn to play the bongo drums.

It is impossible to return to a medieval future ... if that even makes sense.

We can never go back to an earlier time because we have an accumulated knowledge base that will be with us which was not available in medieval times. Our quality of life will be much better, even if oil disappears tomorrow.

For example, we have knowledge about solar energy photovoltaics, wind energy generators, etc. that medieval peoples did not. We will have lights at night with LED bulbs medieval peoples did not have.

Go ahead, make my day. Take away oil. We have alternatives that did not exist back in medieval times.

And I imagine that Richard Feynman was not able to play the bongo drums half as well as Brazilians. He was probably never able to give his bongo rhythm a syncopated feel or improvise with left-hand accents as Brazilians do.

For the week:

The Dow is up 201.16 points, or 1.5 percent.

The S&P 500 is up 25.54 points, or 1.8 percent.

The Nasdaq is up 68.85 points, or 2.2 percent.

For the year so far:

The Dow is up 1,074.44 points, or 8.8 percent.

The S&P 500 is up 174.52 points, or 13.9 percent.

The Nasdaq is up 530.66 points, or 20.4 percent.

UP! UP! UP!

[sarcasm on]
Sorry, doomers. I know you would be happier if the bottom was falling out of the economy and you could imagine a Black Swan event was happening. But the markets are not cooperating. Things are getting better and better. More jobs being created. Housing values returning. Leading Economic Index up. Damn. And we were all hoping for a giant collapse and a civil war, complete with pitch forks and hangings!
[sarcasm off]

Lawyers notable quote at end of that link:
Its possible to be Black but look White.

That statement went unexplained.

Buck,

I agree on PCR. In some of his columns it seem like he was off his meds, and even challenges David Icke for insanity.

However, since his escape from the conservative propaganda mills, he is often quite reasonable and accurate, particularly about H-1Bs taking American engineers' jobs.

He is also still convinced that supply side economics would work, "If it was done correctly". The fact that corporations are sitting on trillions in cash and are still not hiring shows that the economy is really a demand driven beast.

As for Putin, the PCR column was neutral on him, just showing that he does, as many others do, see that the US is quite hypocritical in its blaming of other countries.

asoka,

We will have the technology for a while after the crash, but in the end it will go too.

Much of the high technology uses a large amount of energy. The making of 99.999999999% pure silicon is energy intensive. Electronic devices have to be made in clean rooms, which use lots of energy to stay clean.

Also, as more people are required to grow food, fewer will be able to do the high tech. Unfortunately people in marketing and sales will probably be next to worthless in growing food, so people doing useful things will have to change.

The real driving force for high tech was the improvement of agriculture, which freed people up to do other things.

The real driving force for high tech was the improvement of agriculture, which freed people up to do other things.

Yeah, and we are light years ahead of medieval farmers in our knowledge of farming. They had no knowledge of permaculture. For medieval farmers soil exhaustion was a constant problem, and the peasants were usually engaged in the laborious process of clearing new land to supplement their old, worn-out fields. We have knowledge that enables kick-ass production on small no-till plots. Even in the case that neither of us (medievals and postmoderns) have access to oil, we postmoderns have the superior knowledge base.

You have no social life, do you?

Define social.

You hypothecate I have no social life. To determine the veracity of the hypothecation we need a defintiion of the word social.

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Here is the reality, doomers:
There are very strong indicators that the world is actually getting better for the majority of humanity--fewer wars, lower crime rates, incredible advances in communication, a dramatic democratization of information that promises to catalyze social transformation on a global scale... and the list goes on. Not to mention the steady rise of integral consciousness all across the planet, bringing us ever-closer to a cultural "tipping point", in much the same way we saw with rational modernism during the European Renaissance, and postmodern pluralism in the 1960's. This "tipping point" will allow us to find and enact integral solutions for our 21st century problems, with the measure of complexity, compassion, and consciousness that they demand. Needless to say, this is very good news.

The word "social" often refers to the redistributive policies (of big government) which aim to apply resources in the public interest. Ask Kyoo. He says I am social because I favor redistribution from rich who have to not-rich in need.

Of course, we are on the CFN blog and blogs are a form of social media. I sometimes contribute to this CFN social media.

Then I have family, sangha, and other community organizations I belong to, in which I participate face-to-face in social gatherings.

Fascists take note. Even your pet dogs will turn and bite if not fed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/06/us-greece-police-idUSBRE8850IW20120906

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-AK

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If our machine-dependent civilization collapses for lack of oil, the civilization that replaces it will not be a rerun of the Europe's Middle Ages.

Medieval Europe was free of industrial poisons. We are swamped in them.

Medieval Europeans were sustained by religious belief. We no longer believe and are not likely to believe again. We know too much.

Medieval Europeans did not have the powerful sense of individuality that we moderns do, and therefore did not have the nagging sense of ambition unrealized that plagues so many of us. In fact, the idea of living one's life for the sake of self-realization would have struck the typical man or woman of Medieval times as bizarre. (The merchant class may have been an exception, but then, they were proto-moderns living in Medieval times.)

I could make this list longer, but I'd have to burden myself to do so. Moreover, I don't want to become CFN's Medieval bore.

Back to the Middle Ages? We should be so lucky.

Sometimes? Life is not as generous as you imagine.

You're a scaredy cat. You don't deserve to own a dog or a cat or have White neighbors.

One of the doomer websites, possibly Orlov's, says that a breakdown in America's oil supply will result in the end of large-scale electricity production, and that an America without electricity will turn into a radioactive wasteland.

Here's how it works. Deprive a nuclear-driven power plant of it's electricity and it will begin to overheat. A couple of weeks after that, meltdown starts.

The meltdown can be forestalled by cooling the reactors with electricity from the backup generators. But these generators are oil-driven, and oil-scarcity is what kicked off the powerplant problem in the first place. And coal- fired plants won't solve the problem either, for coal is delivered to these plants by oil-burning trains and trucks.

So then, multiply that single out-of-control nuclear plant by all the nuclear power plants now running in America, and what do we get? We get a hundred or more nuclear meltdowns that can neither be contained nor stopped. Fukushima continent-wide.

Ask Kyoo.
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He means he doesn't think you get laid a lot.

So now we face a choice. My opponent and his running mate are new to foreign policy, but from all that we’ve seen and heard, they want to take us back to an era of blustering and blundering that cost America so dearly.

After all, you don’t call Russia our number one enemy – and not al Qaeda – unless you’re still stuck in a Cold War time warp. You might not be ready for diplomacy with Beijing if you can’t visit the Olympics without insulting our closest ally. My opponent said it was “tragic” to end the war in Iraq, and he won’t tell us how he’ll end the war in Afghanistan. I have, and I will. And while my opponent would spend more money on military hardware that our Joint Chiefs don’t even want, I’ll use the money we’re no longer spending on war to pay down our debt and put more people back to work – rebuilding roads and bridges; schools and runways. After two wars that have cost us thousands of lives and over a trillion dollars, it’s time to do some nation-building right here at home.

-- President Barack Obama, Sept. 6, 2012

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AK, thanks for providing these 2 links. I read the first and watched the second in their entirety. They make for an excellent corollary to all of Jim's blogs and books on peak oil. I have long believed that the key problem for mankind is overpopulation. Perhaps the earth can sustain a billion people...or maybe 500M. The professor makes it all quite clear.

Medieval Europeans did not have the powerful sense of individuality that we moderns do, and therefore did not have the nagging sense of ambition unrealized that plagues so many of us.
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Jam, you obviously see individuality and ambition as a curse? I see it precisely the opposite.

Ozone, at yr link I thought this was more int.

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By Terry Weiss, Money Morning

Richard Duncan, formerly of the World Bank and chief economist at Blackhorse Asset Mgmt., says America's $16 trillion federal debt has escalated into a "death spiral, "as he told CNBC.'

Lawyers notable quote at end of that link:
Its possible to be Black but look White.
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Unless the one-drop rule is invoked these Malone twins were as Irish as Patty's pig.

Not to mention the steady rise of integral consciousness all across the planet, bringing us ever-closer to a cultural "tipping point", in much the same way we saw with rational modernism during the European Renaissance, and postmodern pluralism in the 1960's. This "tipping point" will allow us to find and enact integral solutions for our 21st century problems, with the measure of complexity, compassion, and consciousness that they demand.
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From what dreamer did you plagiarize this blurb?

And I imagine that Richard Feynman was not able to play the bongo drums half as well as Brazilians. He was probably never able
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Oh, you imagine... and he was probably never able... So, saying it another way, you have no friggin idea.

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Draghi succeded in what Germany mostly feared: to transform the euro into the lira. And Italians are very happy.
It is like building a Ferrari with the 500 fiat engine.
It looks great, it costs much less than a Ferrari and it does what a Ferrari is for: it is a status symbol.
Because most people do not buy a Ferrari to go 300 km. per hour, it is not even possible.
In italian Freeways you have the limit of 140 and it is unthinkable to drive at 300 km. on a normal road.
So why do you need a Ferrari? To show that you can afford it.
Most italians DO NOT want to go back to the lira.
Mostly because it shows the "old" "unimportant" "weak" country.
While having a currency like the euro, in common with strong states like Germany, is like having a Ferrari: you can show who you are.
So, what is the ultimate goal if you cannot afford a strong currency?
Adopting a strong one and using it like a weak.
A Ferrari with the 500 fiat engine, that is it.

Isn't everything on Wikipedia? Maybe there.

Isn't everything on the Web? Maybe Google it.

Or maybe here: SOURCE

What difference does it make, Kyoo? Instead of going ad hominem, why not focus on the substance of the message?

More people watched convention speeches than watched the NFL opening game. Americans seem more interested in politics than in sports.

Kyoo,

I'm guessing that Asoka is "quoting" Ken Wilber in that paragraph. Too bad he didn't give Wilber any credit.

It was a personal email from Wilber.
Ken is not egoistic and does not want credit.
I wanted to protect his privacy. You have now blown his cover.
:)

SOURCE: Wilber, Ken. The Marriage of Sense and Soul: Integrating Science and Religion. New York: Random House, 1998.

"In The Marriage of Sense and Soul, one of today's most important philosophers articulates how we might begin to think about science and religion in ways that allow for their reconciliation and union, on terms that will be acceptable to both camps." "Wilber clearly and succinctly explores the schism between science and religion, and the impact of this "philosophical Cold War" on the fate of humanity. He systematically reviews previous attempts at integration, explaining why romantic, idealistic, and postmodern theories failed. And he demonstrates how science is compatible with certain deep features common to all of the world's major religious traditions. In pointing the way to a union between truth and meaning, Ken Wilber has created an elegant and accessible book that is breathtaking in its scope."--BOOK JACKET.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND READING THIS BOOK. IT IS WILBER'S FIRST ATTEMPT TO POPULARIZE HIS MESSAGE TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE IN THE CLUSTERFUCK NATION.

Why not focus on the substance of the message?

Ahhhhhh - perhaps because it's woo-woo bullshit and is without ant substance. Another case of too much magic.

"A tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing."

I think that the presidential candidates and their entourage should be given high marks for reality realignment.Reality realignment is the skill of using language and psychology to make people feel hopeful and inspired within the very context that is destroying hope and the possibility of change to a reality based functional societal operation aka RBFSO. I wish I could live with that inspiration and hope that they so theatrically and eloquently expressed.

your kidding right?

The reality party already exists. The members just have to come together with the same fever and organization the opposition has.

Here is one of our members.

Paul Gilding
Independent writer & advisor on sustainability.


Have you ever read any of Ken Wilber's books? They are not woo-woo. The first Wilber book I read in 1983 was THE ATMAN PROJECT which has approximately 390 references to academic literature. Wilber grounds everything he says in solid research. You are kind of showing your ignorance with your unsubstantiated "woo-woo" remark. Further, your comment is without "ant substance"! LOL!

Woof!

Woof

You are kind of showing your ignorance with your unsubstantiated "woo-woo" remark.

You don't want an unsubstantiated remark. Ok then.

Perhaps you'd like another?

WOO WOO


I RECOMMEND READING WILBER'S ATMAN PROJECT. HERE IS A SYNOPSIS TO WHET YOUR APPETITE:

The Atman Project: A Transpersonal View of Human Development (1980)

The Atman Project was written simultaneously with its "sister" volume, Up From Eden, which concentrates on historical anthropology and collective human evolution (phylogeny). Earlier versions of The Atman Project, still reflecting Wilber's Romantic phase, were first published in the 1978 premier issues of the transpersonal journal ReVision (co-edited with Jack Crittenden). Nevertheless, by l979 Wilber had gone through "an inordinately difficult intellectual passage" in order to uncover the critical pre/trans fallacy which dramatically shifted his work into its second phase. The Atman Project was first published in 1980 by Quest Books; reprinted by Quest Books in 1996; it's now part of The Collected Works of Ken Wilber, Volume 2 (Shambhala, 1999).

The Atman Project goes on to cover the "outward and inward arcs" of individual human development (ontogeny) as the movement of the "general life cycle" from birth to Enlightenment. It emphasizes the fact that "development is evolution; evolution is transcendence," or in other words, the invariant sequence of developmental unfolding basically transcends yet includes its predecessor(s). The fairly concise chapters therefore outline the general features and characteristics of the prepersonal, personal, and transpersonal developmental stages (the spectrum of conscious-ness), in a manner Wilber basically retains to this day. Not only does he delineate the various levels of mind (or the egoic self), including five different types of the unconscious brought forward in particular with Western psychology, but unlike other modern psychologists, Wilber gives a masterly overview of the transpersonal stages gleaned from a thorough study of the Eastern mystical traditions (as well as being grounded in his own spiritual practice). One of The Atman Project's principle theses, then, is that all the stages and drives of this unfolding, evolving, developing self are actually nothing more than the endless attempts to "attain ultimate Unity [Atman] in ways that prevent it and force symbolic substitutes"; this is the basic working definition of the "Atman-project."

I don't share your penchant to have others tell me what to think. I am my own guru.

More people watched convention speeches than watched the NFL opening game. Americans seem more interested in politics than in sports.
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Yeah, it's scary isn't it?! Even my wife is in a state of rapt attention over the political scene for the first time in her life. Normally her nose would be buried in a Sundance or Garnet Hill catalogue. She even reads the NYT op-eds - Dowd, Collins, Bruni (heavy-dooty leftwingers), and the token moderate conservative, David Brooks.

I have been consistent in my contempt and revulsion for these political shows. What I know of them comes from news clips interspersed in other shows I'm watching. Take for example yesterday. I was watching CNBC with the sound muted (I keep the sound muted most of the time because I am simultaneously doing other stuff on my computer and the incessant talking of talking-heads is a major distraction) and as I glanced up from my laptop screen to the TV they were showing a clip of Bill Clinton speaking and gesturing wildly and then they cut to the audience who were greatly impressed. Grown men wearing odd costumes danced in the aisles in genuine glee... aging women with hair by L'Oreal all but tossed their room keys up on the stage. (I cannot recommend too highly the practice of watching speeches with the sound off.) The shot of the crowd was what really got me. Two thoughts flashed through my mind: (1) look at these jerk-offs and (2) they look like 13 year old girls wetting themselves in thrall of the latest boy-band.

And don't get me wrong, it's the same with the republicans, in a somewhat more subdued way. The repubs need to gin-up their facade of excitement while the Dems are actually thrilled at the prospect of 4 more years in power during which to conceive ways of extracting wealth from those that HAVE for the benefit of those who don't, in exchange for their votes.

I watched a couple of great US Open tennis matches while the sickening political spectacle played out down south.


Baloney.....

Ken has a massively huge ego. Not a bit of modesty. I went to Boulder for a retreat of sorts with about 30 others. He swears like a longshoreman.

The book, Bald Ambition, is a deconstructionist attempt, but it is nowhere as subtle as deconstruction itself would require, as a process of "unbuilding" (instead of one of "tearing down"). The proof of this--if a proof is even required--is that Bald Ambition remains silent with respect to what can be done after his dismantling of the Theory of Everything is complete.

The strippingthegurus website says it is possible to look at Wilber’s early but seminal book The Atman Project to see his idea of successive stages of psycho-spiritual development.

Thanks, K-Dog. That is the kind of substance I was hoping for.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

And thanks for bringing up Ken Wilber for discussion on CFN!

I don't share your penchant to have others tell me what to think. I am my own guru.

You don't need to be your own guru. You don't need a guru. You are a dog. Woof!

You read the book already? I'm impressed.

The members just have to come together with the same fever and organization the opposition has.
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fervor

the Dems are actually thrilled at the prospect of 4 more years in power

Yes, they are fired up and ready to go. They are at 150% enthusiasm and will be on the ground swarming the swing states with more intensity than 2008. With more intensity than ACORN.

It came out in 2010, about two years ago.

Here is Ken Wilber supporting Ray Kurzweil. More evidence of insanity.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND READING THIS BOOK. IT IS WILBER'S FIRST ATTEMPT TO POPULARIZE HIS MESSAGE TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE IN THE CLUSTERFUCK NATION.
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Is your role as a shill for Wilber on a paid or un-paid basis? I will explain why I ask shortly but I have been called to lunch.

I just watched the video. Thanks for the link. Wilber was being critical of Kurzweil, critical of the whole information revolution, because having a firehose of information is meaningless if you don't have any way to make meaning out of it.

"Fireworks" sprung up, after the night smile with colorful paint is part of a prosperous thoughts, dreams are always easy to wake up "mist" see life and afterlife I stared, life step a startling me life,
love this nothingness "rainy season" a woman cry, cry so long bad eye for the beautiful love "and" your lightning storm, you scratch my quiet prairie and I did not speak out, to see how you lifted my hair

Kyoo, I thought it was obvious that I felt so much guilt for being called out by SJMom for plagiarizing that I wanted to compensate by publicizing Wilber's work. It is unpaid work due to the extreme shame I feel. It is so embarrassing. SJMom caused me so much embarrassment I felt a need to do something nice for Wilber. This whole thing could have been avoided if I had just cited my source. I just never seem to learn to practice attribution on an anonymous blog.


You sez:
"I don't share your penchant to have others tell me what to think."

That's very non-modern-'Murkin of you (quite refreshing).
But why go through all that trouble when ass-pok-ah is here to guide you [like the little lost puppy that you are] around all the terrors and troubles into the golden light of his higher plane of knowledge and existence? What are you, some kinda hard case? ;o)

He is a dog. He doesn't need a guru. Moderns don't need gurus. They like to make fun of gurus. This is all so obvious it is knowable from even lower planes of knowledge where the terrors and troubles abound, about which there is much whining.

In the higher planes of knowledge there are only opportunities, challenges, growth, and love. There is no limit to the number of people we can love.

“I don't think there is such a thing as
an intelligent mega-rich
person.

For who with a fine mind can look
out upon this world and
hoard

what can nourish
a thousand
souls.”

― Kabir

Amusing post. Good to see Clinton's supporters so nicely skewered. However, I'm going to hijack your prose to make a point about grammar.

"...cut to the audience who were greatly impressed." As compared to that part of the audience who were NOT greatly impressed, right?

"...cut to the audience, who were greatly impressed." The comma after "audience" turns your restrictive clause into a non-restrictive clause and therefore conveys what you had in mind, which was the whole audience as a whole, not a part of it.

The restrictive/non-restrictive mistake is all over the place, so you have lots of company, even among literature specialists in the academy.

One Benita Eisler, a university professor, wrote a biography about Byron a few years a ago. I took it out of the public library in expectation of a good read. But on virtually every page she used the restrictive when she should have used the non-restrictive. It was a big book, 500 pages or so. Reading it would have meant 500 pages of irritation.I returned it the next day.

jam47, I have tried relentlessly to correct Kyoo's grammar, especially with regard to his omission of commas. He does not catch his errors because his spell check does not point them out. He seems unaware that his grammatical errors change the meaning. He ends up saying things he surely did not mean to say, as your post makes clear.

Thank you for a good explanation of the restrictive/non-restrictive mistake. Of course, the possibility exists that only a small minority of attendees were greatly impressed, and Kyoo was speaking of that small gaggle of Democrats. In that case Kyoo's omission of the comma was correct.

In pointing the way to a union between truth and meaning, Ken Wilber has created an elegant and accessible book that is breathtaking in its scope."--BOOK JACKET.
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The above sounds like it was written by book review generating software... something like a random number generator. Surely, by now, such software exists.

In one of the Sienfeld episodes a handsome guy tells Elaine she is breathtaking and she goes all aflutter, lapping up the flattery. A little while later this same handsome dude looks into a bassinet where the world's ugliest newborn is sleeping and tells the mother, Elaine's friend, the baby is breathtaking. Elaine puts two and two together and is crestfallen.

The moral: Beware of book reviews that use the word breathtaking.

Wilber is famous for supporting the wrong people like Da Free John and Andrew Cohen.

The world is obviously poised on the brink of catastrophe. Only a strong dictatorship could bring it into some kind of golden age - with a very ugly shadow. The Anglo Saxon attempt was subverted by the Judeo Masons who took over their societies from within - and used their power to crush Germany's attempt to break free. I don't want to live in the New World Order - they have slated my race for death.

Wilber always ignores race - or pretends not to notice how all of Black Africa is in the red zone and by definition, can never leave. As George Obama (Barack's brother) said, why did Asia benefit from colonialism, but not Africa? We have no one to blame but ourselves.

Has Wilber calculated Peak Oil into his Utopianism? Not that I've heard.

Yes, I know. "...which was the whole audience as a whole..."

Corrected:"...which was the whole audience, not a part of it."

My point remains.

Good article about the Father of American Neo Gothic - completely ignored and forgotten by choice. The architect of St John the Divine in NY. Not because he was Bi or Gay, but because he was a Real Conservative (not a fake one). And yes, that means he wanted the White Race to thrive.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/09/ralph-adams-cram-wild-boy-of-american-architecture/#more-31037

Kyoo, Wilber's book is breathtaking. I have read it twice. On the second reading I was able to breathe more normally. The first reading literally took my breath away. It is that impressive. Give it a read.

"The Marriage of Sense and Soul: Integrating Science and Religion (1998) is another mature Phase-4 writing that uses an "all-quadrant, all-level" approach in order to explain how both science and religion (or authentic spirituality) can be integrated into the modern and postmodern worldview. Begun in late 1996, the two-hundred page manuscript was written up in only a few months with a target audience of mainstream religious and orthodox scientific communities, not the New Age, New Paradigm crowd. Originally titled "The Integration of Science and Religion: The Union of Ancient Wisdom and Modern Knowledge," it was sold to a traditional New York publisher, Random House, who renamed it from the Oscar Wilde quote Wilber used on the opening page; thus its readership has reached into the highest political offices of the United States. The Marriage of Sense and Soul was first published in 1998 by Random House; it's now part of The Collected Works of Ken Wilber, Volume 8 (Shambhala, 2000).

The Marriage of Sense and Soul convincingly maintains that any true "integration of science and religion" will have to include not only the ancient wisdom of the premodern world (spiritual values, for instance), but also the hard-fought triumphs or "dignity" (the "good news") of the modern/postmodern world (science and liberal democracies, for instance). Yet such a "marriage" will also have to simultaneously heal and transcend modernity's fractious dissociations or "disasters" (the "bad news"), many coming from the reductionistic and materialistic (or "flatland") philosophy commonly known as scientism. It's suggested that only through a more integral approach, an "all-quadrant, all-level" embrace, will it be possible to unite the amazing advances of an exterior-oriented science with the wisdom values and transpersonal meanings found in an interior-based spirituality. In other words, this concise treatise basically claims the only way for a true marriage of science and religion to take place, one that is acceptable to both parties, is for it to adopt an integral view broad enough to maintain the essential qualities of each, although admittedly, they will both have to "give a little" and expand their rigid positions in order to serve the universal quest for true knowledge. Overall, written in a reader-friendly style, this accessible book is aimed at guiding a general audience in finding a mutual accord between the spiritual, subjective world of ancient wisdom and the objective, empirical world of modern scientific knowledge."

Now I am happy SJMom turned CFN toward Wilber!

Of course, the possibility exists that only a small minority of attendees were greatly impressed
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A question for Jam: Shouldn't the above bolded word be was?

BT,

Asoka speaks like a true one percenter: don't worry, be happy. Apparently he cherry picked his rebuttal from a Washington Post article and accepted it at face value without a trace of skepticism.

A simple question: are job prospects for incoming hispanic immigrants anything like what they were for people a lot like them earlier in the 20th century? Like, for example, people in my own family in the postwar period 1945-1970? No? I would agree.

So let's look at some of what Mr Burkauser says.

"Based only on their market income, the bottom 20 percent lost about one-third of its income between 1979 and 2007."

So they lost ONE effing THIRD of their market income. That's between 1979 and 2007.

What about from before 1979? What if you start in 1950? Or 1945? Oh, wait, these census surveys only started in 1967. Burkhauser says: "So, a major scientific innovation, beginning in the 1960s, was that in the 1967, for the first time, the Census Bureau became willing to go out and poll people in their homes; and we started to have an annual current population survey. In that survey, which is now the most important data set used to measure the income and employment of Americans, the surveyor goes into the door."

Source: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2012/04/burkhauser_on_t.html

And before 1967? There be darkness.

But nevermind. So to make this crappy state of affairs look and smell better, you factor in the impact of transfers.

Effing brilliant. You factor in benefits that were taxed, laundered and shrunken by inept, corrupt, disastrously managed, bought-and-paid-for-governments.

And we're supposed to think that all is well? Especially when the govt is sitting on a sixteen trillion dollar powder keg that's growing by what, a trillion a year? More? And especially when there's NO realistic plan to deal with this unfolding nightmare? And especially when the funder of this debt is now apparently Wall Street's fartcatcher, the intellectually debauched Fed?

If a greenback counterfitter, caught redhanded by the FBI, was brought before a judge and prosecutor, what could he say? He could say that what he was doing was no different than what the Fed led by Bernanke is doing, producing bogus currency for the benefit of a criminal organization, in Bernanke's case the criminal enterprise being Wall Street.

What about the effect of transfers on the middle percentiles? How has this changed over time? The little Washington Post blurb doesn't say.

Burkhauser makes a big deal about measuring household income instead of individual income. Except that in the postwar 1940s and 1950s a minority of wives in households were employed in the labor force. But now among co-habiting or married people a one income household is the exception rather than the rule. How do I know? Screw the studies, I saw it myself. But according to Burkhauser the time before 1967 is the Age of Ignorance. Except that is if you were alive and could see what was going on.

Here, for the hell of it, is a CBO study: Trends in the Distribution of Household Income Between 1979 and 2007

http://cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/10-25-HouseholdIncome.pdf

And here, cherry-picked Assoka style, is what the study says on page 35:

"The equalizing effect of transfers declined over the 1979–2007 period primarily because the distribution of transfers became less progressive. The equalizing effect of federal taxes also declined over the period, in part because the amount of federal taxes shrank as a share of market income and in part because of changes in the progressivity of the federal tax system."

Don't worry, be happy? Not only have distribution of transfers become LESS progressive according to the CBO but at the same time governments have become more and more burdened by debt.

"Changes in the progressivity of the federal tax system" the CBO says. You don't say.

But nevermind, there are other studies out there. One of which (Saez, Piketty) mine IRS data for trends in income for almost a hundred years. Here's what they say, that from 1970 to 2010, average pre-tax income per taxpayer in the bottom 90 percent of the distribution fell from $31,839 to $28,840 in inflation-adjusted dollars. For those in the top 0.01 percent, market income rose from $2.14 million a year in 1970 to $16.27 million in 2010. - NYTimes Opinion Page Apr 22/12.

OK. Firstly, there's an old saying about "lies, damned lies and statistics" (Tm Twain or maybe Disraeli).

Secondly, "there's nobody so fullashit as an expert" (Tm yours truly)

Economics in my opinion is so rotten with political ideology and so bent by economic interests as to render it useless as a field of study. NOTHING that comes out of it should be trusted to give any fair, honest, complete or dependable reflection of the economy.

As Burkhauser says: "You have to make all kinds of decisions and assumptions; and your biases and ideology of course color what your assumptions are."

And he goes on to say: "But I'll tell you the truth--and the truth is, and this is just the way we academics are, and I'll admit it: the puzzle to me is how can you get such apparently wildly different visions with the same data?"

No shit.

Message to people not impervious to reason: Trust your own eyes and ears.

For my part, I've visited the USA numerous times over 50 years and we've had family there for more than a century. So I think I'm qualified to draw my own conclusions. Some of us of a certain age remember when almost all ordinary Americans could get decent paying jobs.

Ken Wilber on Peak Oil:

THE EVER NEARING APOCALYPSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1v7GCXw_50s

Warning: contains multitudes and lots of laughter!


Vlad said:

Wilber is famous for supporting the wrong people like Da Free John and Andrew Cohen.
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I have good instincts. Decades ago I wrote Wilber off as another self-aggrandizing kook who was forming a personality cult around himself for doing what others have done quietly ... take care of a dying spouse. He shaved his head and put his bald pate on a book to "honor" his wife by imitating her bald head ... bald due to chemotherapy.

Like most New Age kooks, such as Eckhart Tolle, he just borrows from Vedantism and Buddhism whenever it helps him to form catchy ideas that sell books. Guys like Wilber mimic the world culture at large ... any catchy scam to make a buck and the more spiritual mumbo-jumbo, the better.

These "spiritualists" are as greedy as any Wall Street character. They just picked a radically different venue.

E.


I might add, Vlad, that Wilber is another of these high-and-mighty "thinkers" who relegate scientific thinking to the LOWEST metaphysical state. Never mind that scientific thinking has brought us everything from the flush toilet to polio vaccine.

I detest these spiritualists who equate their jumbled metaphysic to a higher order of being. Indeed, I find them laughable.

What is it about New Age that puffs up people's egos so?? They're worse than Pentacostalist Bible Thumpers. The Thumpers just go on a literalist interpretation of the Bible but these New Age nutters just repackage some sectors of Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, various Hindu religious sects, and Christianity into their own person new CATEGORICAL systems which don't correspond to any NATURAL categories at all.

E.

I'm going to hijack your prose to make a point about grammar.
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Thanks for pointing out this restrictive/non-restrictive nuance of punctuation/grammar. As soon as I read the line through your prism I see clearly what you are talking about.

And, way to go on returning that 500 page book to the li-berry. I'd have done the same thing.

And here, cherry-picked Asoka style, is what the study says on page 35:

What you call cherry-picking is actually an intelligent selection of pertinent data. Nobody wants you to post hundreds of pages to CFN. Cherry-picking is absolutely necessary and is an indication of your intelligence.

Was Draghi, an Italian, looking after Italian interests?

I suspect that Germans on the other hand are as unhappy as the Italians are happy, Germans having bitter memories of what mismanagement of a currency can do and what hell can result. How long before fascistic political parties rear their ugly heads and start to make inroads?

Italy found a sucker to pay its bills. Germany sees that it gave up the mighty DMark... for what exactly?

"Good to see Clinton's supporters so nicely skewered."

Hardly. The old fart didn't even have the sound on, so he's basing his comments on how everyone looked, not on what was being said, which is pretty shallow.


After Obama gets reelected and we get four more years of his pal, Bernanke, increasing the wealth of the most sociopathic, corrupt stewards of capital in world history, we will see that Obama does NOT represent "change you can believe in".

Obama represents the typically Democratic idea that big government, with new agencies, each of which has hundreds or thousands of staffers and bloated, overpaid, do-nothing bureaucrats, are going to magically turn around a globalist system responsible for the evisceration of the US middle class.

Everyone on this site should read the article whose link I posted long ago about the FORTY things Obama and Romney have in common. Obama is a typical Chicago politician who makes sure his kin have a "blingy" life. Once again, the idea that we have a "choice", an illusion largely manifested by Bill Clinton's commercial in support of Obama, is front and center.

These politicians are absolutely POWERLESS against world globalist oligarchs. They are PUPPETS. Those who want "change you can believe in" will get their wish soon because this sucker's going down so fast that we will get a dictatorship as society gets destabilized because our economy will become a black market and the rate of violence, having gone down so much during opulent times, is already rapidly increasing.


E.

Wilber is another of these high-and-mighty "thinkers" who relegate scientific thinking to the LOWEST metaphysical state.

You are a bit confused here, XXX5. Wilber considers scientific inquiry to be a means of "valid knowing" with three essential characteristics:

1) Instrumental injuction

2) Direct apprehension

3) Communal confirmation (or rejection)

His argument is that science is a valid method of knowing that can be applied in both external and internal domains.

What you call cherry-picking is actually an intelligent selection of pertinent data. - Assoka

No it's not. Not without considering what Burkhauser says about academics: "...how can you get such apparently wildly different visions with the same data?"

And not without using your own eyes and ears and judgement and reason. Not when such "data" and conclusions are so wildly at odds with simple observation ie your own observations and those of people you know and trust.

Big G gave you a brain. Use it once in a while.

These politicians are absolutely POWERLESS against world globalist oligarchs. They are PUPPETS.

Ohhh, scary oligarchs! Playing with puppets! LOL!

You know very well, XXX5, that JHK does not look kindly on conspiracy theories being posted to CFN.

Who are these "globalist oligarchs" who are in charge of politicians and treat them like "puppets"?

Some of the puppets you refer to are also in charge of armed forces (Obama, Putin, etc.) which they seem to deploy without consulting "globalist oligarchs" ... or do you have any evidence that both Putin and Obama ask permission from "globalist oligarchs" before making a move?

Name those "oligarchs" who are playing with puppet politicians, those who control Obama, Putin, Jintao, Mukhrjee, Zardari, etc. with such ease.

I'm trying, Rhino, but you know how Vlad says Blacks have such a low IQ? It hurts to use my fool brain. So, I cut and paste. Others be doin' my thinkin' for me. I have no pride of authorship. I let them.

Thanks for coming out to play today, Rhino.

Nobody wants you to copy/paste hundreds of pages.

They want you to cherry pick relevant data. That is what we are both doing. It's fun, isn't it?

After Obama gets reelected...

You have a crystal ball? You can see into the future?

What evidence do you have that Obama will be re-elected?

Why would he be re-elected... when you maintain we are in a fucking ECONOMIC DEPRESSION and we are in the fucking CRUNCH TIME with Euro collapse and war with Iran about to happen any day now?

You are contradicting yourself. Which is fine, if you are large and contain multitudes. But not fine, if you are Mr. Logic & Computer Science, Teacher of the Year.

OK, clusterfucers and conspiracy theorists, all you who trust nothing from government sources. Riddle me this: why the fuck would the Obama administration fix the job data is such a way that it hurts Obama's chances for re-election.

I trust big government data and believe in its integrity. You don't. So it falls to you to explain why the government is out to hurt itself.

"WASHINGTON -- U.S. employers added 96,000 jobs last month, a weak figure that could slow the momentum President Barack Obama hoped to gain from his speech Thursday night to the Democratic National Convention.

The unemployment rate fell to 8.1 percent from 8.3 percent in July. But that was only because more people gave up looking for jobs. People who are out of work are counted as unemployed only if they're looking for a job.

The government also said Friday that 41,000 fewer jobs were created in July and June than first estimated. The economy has added just 139,000 jobs a month since the start of the year, below 2011's average of 153,000."

That's good, and I don't think your view of economics is opinion. I think it is fact.

"Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."

- Mark Twain's Own Autobiography

As I understand it, using WERE rather than WAS, or WAS rather than WERE, depends on whether the collective noun that is the subject of WAS/WERE is regarded as a single unit or as a number of individuals within the unit.

A collective noun used a unit requires WAS. A collective noun in which the individual things that constitute the unit are to be stressed, requires WERE.

But there's a problem. Depending on the particular noun, it's up to the writer to decide whether he wants to stress that noun's singularity or plurality.

If Asoka used "minority" to mean one thing undivided, WAS would be correct. If he meant the one or more constituents of a minority, WERE would be correct.

Asoka can't be faulted on this unless we know which way he meant to go, and we don't.

This is how I understand the matter. But English grammar is a complicated topic, and I'm no expert.

If you were black you would not have just posted that.

The unemployment rate fell to 8.1 percent from 8.3 percent in July. But that was only because more people gave up looking for jobs. People who are out of work are counted as unemployed only if they're looking for a job.

Curious logic or lack thereof.

By what standard does one determine if someone else is looking or not looking for something that does not exist?

"Lies, damned lies and statistics."

In this case it is both lies and statistics!

OK, clusterfuckers and conspiracy theorists.


Admitting your just here to cause trouble and are not one of the pack are you?

Despite his flaws, I like Wilber. His book "Integral Psychology" does a good job of comparing and contrasting differed models (East and West) of the psych.

And to the person who mentioned his shaving his head to empathize with his wife....Ken Wilber has always shaved his head. He is as bald as a bowling ball.

Inspite of his baldness, chicks dig him. When I saw him back around 2000, he was going through his "flavor of the month" phase with nubile 20-somethings. He has a sense of style, lifts weights, and he's very tall and very smart.

Jen

P.S. He hates Zukov's "Dancing Wu Li Masters." Oh the filth that poored out of his mouth when he talks about the so-called spiritual/physics connection....it would make a whore blush.

Now that the conventions are over, or should I say the pom-pom parades, I would like like to nominate the most frank and honest politician(which isn't saying much)of the group:

Ron Paul.

Yeah I know, Paul is not without fault, but at least he will utter some criticism of US foreign/military policy beyond the patriotic platitudes that incessantly reverberated from the rafters of both conventions. So much blather and patriotic cotton-candy has infested the political dialogue that when an honest critique is forthcoming, such as Ron Paul occasionally provides, he is immediately dismissed as "nutty' or out on the lunatic fringe. And yet how can a person or nation can call themselves great if not capable of honest self-reflection that sometimes contradicts deranged jingoistic chest-thumping? I suppose the answer has something to do with self-delusion and denial. And hence the call for "Reality" from the more sober and sane among us.

asoka, why are the fluctuations in market trading any indication of economic prosperity? They measure the volume of trading of public company shares only, and a direct correlation between those numbers and overall economic health is hard to prove. The correlation is weak at best. In other words, if the DOW went from 8000 to 13000 and there were a strong correlation, then the economy should be something like 60% more prosperous or richer (I'm exaggerating but you get the idea). But, obviously, it is not. These indices fluctuate a lot, because there is so much money sloshing around in the system, always seeking out the next best thing. Sometimes it is bonds, other times stocks. A lot of it is automated computer trading. So, I dunno, take those numbers with a grain of salt. (A block of salt more like it.)

Let's say some bank gets a bunch of money from the Fed (hey QE2, I'm loving it), and then they dump this money into the market. How is that an indication of prosperity? The Fed just devalued all the dollars out there, so some crooked bank can ride a 1% gain in a stock price. It is BS.

Better measures of economic health are unemployment, inflation (or hopefully lack thereof), new job figures, salaries, and other more concrete measurements. But, hey, let's not dig into that. Much easier to just use some stupid market index.

This is now the Asoka show!
Asoka pulls a fast one and JHK will finance his nonsense, at least here.

Ozone, you posted about the California hate speech bill.

[OOps, I meant to hit 'minimize' not 'submit'].

Here:
'Resolution HR35 buttressing a controversial report commissioned by the University…..

During the Cold War, Jewish organizations and the the left in general strongly supported free speech.
But now that they are in power, every effort is being made to consolidate their power by preventing honest inquiry and debate.

And although the First Amendment protections are still secure, there is certainly no guarantee that it will remain that way. The most recent appointee, Elena Kagan, has shown that she is entirely on board with Waldron’s logic:
[Kagan] is entirely on board with seeking ways to circumscribe free speech in the interests of multicultural virtue: “I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation.”

She acknowledges that the Supreme Court is unlikely to alter its stance that speech based on viewpoint is protected by the First Amendment, but she sees that as subject to change with a different majority: The Supreme Court “will not in the foreseeable future” adopt the view that “all governmental efforts to regulate suchspeech … accord with the Constitution.”

But in her view there is nothing to prevent it from doing so. Clearly, she does not see the protection of viewpoint-based speech as a principle worth preserving or set in stone. Rather, she believes that a new majority could rule that “all government efforts to regulate such speech” would be constitutional. All government efforts'.
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Its the old 'Stalinist' routine again.
Or Maos '100 Flowers' campaign.

Encourage dissent in order to find the dissenters and kill them.

"a globalist system responsible for the evisceration of the US middle class"

There is something to be said about the effect of government policy on the prosperity of the middle class. However, the effect is overstated. There are basic laws of capitalism at work here, that have caused middle class incomes to stagnate and retreat here in the US. Corporations are nearly always going to seek out the lowest labor costs, all other factors being equal. This by itself explains the loss of manufacturing and some service jobs to countries like China.

See, for instance, this story.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/average-cost-factory-worker_n_1327413.html

The cost of an average Chinese worker is one tenth that of a comparable US one.

With these kinds of price differentials, what kind of company would not take advantage, were they able? It is simply common sense to them.

There are other factors at work. The state of a country's infrastructure and its tax system are two of the other major determinants as to whether a corporation would choose to manufacture goods there. Both of these have, in the last say couple decades, been improved in China, such that there is very little reason for a US manufacturing company to make goods here. Many of those that tried went out of business, because American workers are expensive.

Now, you can point to counter-examples like Germany, but if you look at their economic policies, there is much protectionism and incentivizing to keep corporations within their borders.

So, as I see it, there are some political factors at work, but the primary ones are economic.

Where you don't see all that much job loss and income stagnation are the fields which cannot be effectively exported, like doctors and lawyers. These are skilled profession where offshoring is not possible. However, if your company is manufacturing widgets, it makes no sense, barring some very strong and elaborate government incentives, to make them here in the US. It costs far less to manufacture them in an environment with low cost of labor and then ship them where needed.

Anyways, just my two cents. Blaming globalist overlords is, I realize, a popular way to put it, but that ignores some pretty basic economic realities that are built in the way capitalism works.

My primary example would be Apple, which employs US engineers, but manufacturers everything in China using Foxxcon, thus there ridiculous profit margins.

And BTW, the US has been bleeding manufacturing jobs since at least the early 60's, so this isn't anything new. It is just that many countries are now catching up (or have caught up and surpassed) our infrastructure, such as roads, railroads, and ports.

I would expect this trend to continue, barring something unforseen.

Riddle me this: why the fuck would the Obama administration fix the job data is such a way that it hurts Obama's chances for re-election.

First, two administrative details: (1) it's in, not is and (2) you ended a question with a period rather than a question mark.

Now, as for an answer to your question... they wouldn't and they didn't. Only a tiny portion of the voting public pays any attention to the nuances of the unemployment data. All they know is that Unemployment rate declines from 8.3% to 8.1% is GOOD.

This morning I was made to laugh out loud when the talking-heads of CNBC, jabbering all at once over top of one another about the data, were strongly out-shouted by super-cynic, Rick Santelli, who said (paraphrased) "Here's a prediction for ya! I guarantee the administration will announce on the Friday before election day that the unemployment rate dropped to 7.9%"

And BTW, Americans expect a standard of living that is far too high when compared with the rest of the planet. The US consumes, roughly, 25% of the world's carbon energy resources with only 4% of so of the total population. This is completely out of whack, and anyone who thinks it can and should go on forever is out of their mind. The fall in average US per capita household wealth and prosperity is inevitable. It represents a correction to our profligate and wasteful usage of natural resources. One can blame it on the government, ad infinitum, but what they're doing is essentially just "kicking the can down the road" (I know, I know, but that's the most apt analogy) for all of us. What do you think the massive amount of US debt is really spent on? It is mostly the government trying to shore up the standard of living of the average person, as much of the expenses go towards entitlements, the military, and government jobs, all solid bulwarks of the middle class here.

So, I dunno, blame someone else like "oligarchs" or crooked politicians all you want but I'm not buying it.

Do you think the 0.2% change was due to people who stopped looking for work or did a lot of people find jobs? Just curious. You seem more tuned in to this than me. Perhaps there's a link I need to follow.

Correction:

7.9%."

Perhaps there's a link I need to follow.
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http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

Something called the "labor force participation rate" seems to be the driving factor in the improved "headline" rate of 8.1%.

Employment itself, as a percent of the population, is at its worst level since 1981. That's 31 years. (I'm good at subtraction.)

I have more to add to this. (haha surprise!)

The increase in "useless" government jobs has a lot to do with the bottom dropping out in manufacturing and other formerly solidly middle class bastions. The Fed is taking up the slack by providing more jobs than are actually needed, simply to keep households and local economies afloat. That's why in many small towns and cities in America, the majority of decent-paying jobs are actually government positions: firemen, policement, medical personnel, teachers, etc. That's pretty much all that's left when the manufacturing disappears, aside from low-paying service jobs and local high-payed professionals like doctors (and they don't tend to live in small towns anyways).

Another factor is the absurd amount of money that those at the top manage to skim, coupled with magical disappearing unions. It used to be that a large fraction of the labor force was unionized, so abuses or discrepancies at the top would be called out during labor negotiations. In white collar work, hardly anyone is unionized, thus the CEOs and other high rollers need only convince the Board of Directors that they require a $10 million dollar golden parachute severance package. More money flowing to those at the top, the VPs, the CEOs, and the upper level managers, means that less goes to the bottom, which is comprised of the middle class workers.

Now I can just imagine someone like Q arguing that those who receive the money deserve it, but they argue in tautologies. Why do they deserve the money? Why, simply because they received it. There seems to be very little thought that the massive gaps in income between upper and lower level employees, which are not present to the same degree in other countries (such as Japan), exacerbate the struggles of the middle class.

Thank you for correcting my typo, then correcting the correction. You are a very valuable member of CFN.

The Fed is taking up the slack by providing more jobs than are actually needed, simply to keep households and local economies afloat.

Labor Department statistics say that government employment has decreased by 608,000 since February 2009. Nevertheless, Fox News and Politico both uncritically reported Mitt Romney's false claim that "[w]e have 145,000 more government workers under this president."

SOURCE: http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/05/29/government-employment-drops-under-obama-but-med/181931

asoka, pardon if I didn't mention this, but I was talking about the long term trends of 30-40 years, not just the last few years.

The fall in average US per capita household wealth and prosperity is inevitable. It represents a correction to our profligate and wasteful usage of natural resources.

About time someone said this!

The "fall" or what XXX5 calls the complete "disappearance of the middle class" (which is a lie) is not only inevitable. It is moral, just, and desirable.

Karma's a bitch. No sense complaining about it or getting into the victim mode. We brought it on ourselves.

Chickens coming home to roost never did make me sad; they've always made me glad.

ATTRIBUTION

Chickens coming home to roost never did make me sad; they've always made me glad.

--Malcolm X

This is now the Asoka show!
Asoka pulls a fast one and JHK will finance his nonsense, at least here.

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Yes, it's all about me and my ideas. JHK allows it because my comments are relevant and intelligently presented, usually with good sentence construction.

And the more y'all engage in ad hominem, the more it will remain the Asoka show.

You are quite verbose this week, soka.

Too much coffee? Too much time on your hands? Or just a lot to say? :)

Thank you, Turkle, for that clarification.

That changes things.

Please disregard my previous comment.

However, let me take this opportunity to answer your previous question about the DOW.

When the stocks of the companies that make up the DJIA begin to show weakness, the U.S. economy may be headed for a slowdown.

The other two Dow Jones indexes covering transportation and utilities can also signal market and economic trends. Those who subscribe to Dow theory analysis believe the three Dow Jones indexes can be used to confirm each other.

The theory holds that if any of the three Dow Jones indexes, particularly the Dow 30 and the Transports, begin to diverge in direction during a market uptrend, caution may be warranted. The basic tenet of Dow theory is that the three Dow Jones indexes represent the major areas of the U.S. economy: industrials, transportation and utilities. When there is weakness in one,there may be weakness coming in the others and in the U.S economy in general.

Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/stocks/08/dow-history.asp#ixzz25p8ydXyP

I admit some weakness in the details, so thanks for the link.

My main examples would be annecdotal. Suppose there is a company that employs 10,000 people. It gets a new CEO who fires 5,000 of these employees and outsources their labor to another country. Due to these layoffs and the resulting cost savings (let's say), the quarterly profit of this company goes up, so investors snap up the stock. The stock price rises. Thus, if it is part of an index, the index also gets a bump.

So, my point is that behavior which is not overall healthy to a national economy, e.g. the laying off of all those workers, can still lead to rising stock prices.

I'm not sure about correlations between the three indices. I'd need to look into it further before commenting further.

"It is moral, just, and desirable."

Well, then why are you acting like a cheerleader for rising US market indices, if what you really want is a drastic fall in US standard of living? It makes no sense.

And, BTW, this is exactly how many Fortune 500 countries reap such huge profits and keep their stock prices high. They keep a skeleton crew in their main base of operations, the US, whilst outsourcing all key manufacturing functions to much cheaper and less regulated economies, like China, where, pretty much, laborers are treated like slaves.

No particular reason. Just enjoying myself a bit.

The "Labor Participation Rate, 16 years and over, both sexes" seems to follow a bell curve that peaked around year 2000.

The graph is a generated file, so it may not live for long, but here's the table [% of population]

Year  Jan   Feb   Mar   Apr   May   Jun   Jul   Aug   Sep   Oct   Nov   Dec 
1981  63.9  63.9  64.1  64.2  64.3  63.7  63.8  63.8  63.5  63.8  63.9  63.6   
1982  63.7  63.8  63.8  63.9  64.2  63.9  64.0  64.1  64.1  64.1  64.2  64.1   
1983  63.9  63.8  63.7  63.8  63.7  64.3  64.1  64.3  64.3  64.0  64.1  64.1   
1984  63.9  64.1  64.1  64.3  64.5  64.6  64.6  64.4  64.4  64.4  64.5  64.6   
1985  64.7  64.7  64.9  64.9  64.8  64.6  64.7  64.6  64.9  65.0  64.9  65.0   
1986  64.9  65.0  65.1  65.1  65.2  65.4  65.4  65.3  65.4  65.4  65.4  65.3   
1987  65.4  65.5  65.5  65.4  65.7  65.5  65.6  65.7  65.5  65.7  65.7  65.7   
1988  65.8  65.9  65.7  65.8  65.7  65.8  65.9  66.1  65.9  66.0  66.2  66.1   
1989  66.5  66.3  66.3  66.4  66.3  66.5  66.5  66.5  66.4  66.5  66.6  66.5   
1990  66.8  66.7  66.7  66.6  66.6  66.4  66.5  66.5  66.4  66.4  66.4  66.4   
1991  66.2  66.2  66.3  66.4  66.2  66.2  66.1  66.0  66.2  66.1  66.1  66.0   
1992  66.3  66.2  66.4  66.5  66.6  66.7  66.7  66.6  66.5  66.2  66.3  66.3   
1993  66.2  66.2  66.2  66.1  66.4  66.5  66.4  66.4  66.2  66.3  66.3  66.4   
1994  66.6  66.6  66.5  66.5  66.6  66.4  66.4  66.6  66.6  66.7  66.7  66.7   
1995  66.8  66.8  66.7  66.9  66.5  66.5  66.6  66.6  66.6  66.6  66.5  66.4   
1996  66.4  66.6  66.6  66.7  66.7  66.7  66.9  66.7  66.9  67.0  67.0  67.0   
1997  67.0  66.9  67.1  67.1  67.1  67.1  67.2  67.2  67.1  67.1  67.2  67.2   
1998  67.1  67.1  67.1  67.0  67.0  67.0  67.0  67.0  67.2  67.2  67.1  67.2   
1999  67.2  67.2  67.0  67.1  67.1  67.1  67.1  67.0  67.0  67.0  67.1  67.1   
2000  67.3  67.3  67.3  67.3  67.1  67.1  66.9  66.9  66.9  66.8  66.9  67.0   
2001  67.2  67.1  67.2  66.9  66.7  66.7  66.8  66.5  66.8  66.7  66.7  66.7   
2002  66.5  66.8  66.6  66.7  66.7  66.6  66.5  66.6  66.7  66.6  66.4  66.3   
2003  66.4  66.4  66.3  66.4  66.4  66.5  66.2  66.1  66.1  66.1  66.1  65.9   
2004  66.1  66.0  66.0  65.9  66.0  66.1  66.1  66.0  65.8  65.9  66.0  65.9   
2005  65.8  65.9  65.9  66.1  66.1  66.1  66.1  66.2  66.1  66.1  66.0  66.0   
2006  66.0  66.1  66.2  66.1  66.1  66.2  66.1  66.2  66.1  66.2  66.3  66.4   
2007  66.4  66.3  66.2  65.9  66.0  66.0  66.0  65.8  66.0  65.8  66.0  66.0   
2008  66.2  66.0  66.1  65.9  66.1  66.1  66.1  66.1  65.9  66.0  65.8  65.8   
2009  65.7  65.8  65.6  65.6  65.7  65.7  65.5  65.4  65.1  65.0  65.0  64.6   
2010  64.8  64.9  64.9  65.1  64.9  64.6  64.6  64.7  64.6  64.4  64.5  64.3   
2011  64.2  64.2  64.2  64.2  64.2  64.1  64.0  64.1  64.1  64.1  64.0  64.0   
2012  63.7  63.9  63.8  63.6  63.8  63.8  63.7  63.5

Well matter is the lowest level and therefore study of matter is lower (in a sense) than the study of a higher level such as mind or group mind (society). "Obviously" it's easier to get a consensus on the things of matter than the things of spirit - or at least it should be.

On the other hand, as Aristotle said, never seer more clarity from a subject than that subject affords. Sociology and Psychology will never be as precise as math or newtonian physics. These disciplines use science and statistics to correlate their data - but by definition they are higher than these (at the level of mind and not matter) and a large degree of interpretation comes in. Btw, for most psychologist this would be greek. They want the prestige of science so they call themselves scientists.

Wilber is an intellectual master of these levels and "quadrants" (his four quadrants, partly based of Jurgen Habermas) is a key to understanding. Without it, people try to reduce other disciplines to their own - even on a given level. Thus for Freud, all is sex. For Marx, everything is economics and so on.

In other words, I'm with SJ - he's very smart - and influential, knows the Clintons etc. And thus my bitterness at my ex-acharya for what he wont acknowledge or care about - Race. I haven't read him in years, but he helped me alot.

He would be the first to admit that he's mostly a collater and not original. This collation (if that's a word) was desperately needed. The four quadrants is probably his greatest gift - and he would admit it had precedents, but he did develop it. The hierarchical ordering of Man and the Unvierse is very, very old and was perfected everywhere long ago by the Traditional Philosphers and Yogis.

Yet he serves the Gobalists and like his flirtation with Cohen and Da Free John, he is blowing it yet again.

Nice formatting. How'd you do that? :)

The prevailing view on CFN is that the economy is in the shits and the DOW does not represent the economy (a fantastic proposition, IMHO). So, I wanted to correct that misconception. Sorry if I came across as a cheerleader for the DOW.

On the other hand, if CFN is correct, and we are in an economic depression, it does make sense that we are. I do not believe we can continue to rape the rest of the world with impunity.

For decades we have tended toward tax breaks for the rich, removal of regulations from banking, less investment in our infrastructure and less support for our people (health, education, housing, etc.) It makes sense we are now in decline.

Having voluntarily reduced my incomes to $1,000 a month, I have discovered a reduction in wealth has pleasant, unexpected benefits. So, decline is not necessarily a bad thing in my mind.

It just requires adaptation away from "the American way of life" that Cheney swore we would defend at all costs. Turns out the costs have been very high indeed.

It is so easy to blame it on "the bankers" or "the Jews" or the "globalist oligarchs" ... instead of looking in the mirror and blaming it on our own immoral, profligate, and wasteful American lifestyle ... a lifestyle to which I said, "good riddance."

Thanks.
Replaced tabs w/ 2 spaces, and used <pre> and </pre> tags. (And tested in an old column :-)

CORRECTION

Having voluntarily reduced my TOTAL income to $1,000 a month, WITH NO DEBT, I have discovered a reduction in wealth has pleasant, unexpected benefits.

If, as a blue collar worker, I could get my financial ducks in a row, thanks to reading JHK for seven years; and pay off my debts; and simplify my life; I'm pretty sure anyone can do it.

After all, I am a fool, not a rocket scientist, and I managed it.

Well, then why are you acting like a cheerleader for rising US market indices, if what you really want is a drastic fall in US standard of living?
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Because yesterday it served his purposes to assume a direct correlation between market indices and the economy by presenting numbers that suggested Obama's "excellent administration" was responsible for recent market increases while today it serves his purpose to piss off formerly middle-class Americans by saying Karma's a bitch, the chickens have come home to roost, and he's glad. It does not serve his purpose either today or yesterday to mention Black unemployment being nearly double the national average.

If you are looking for consistent logic you will not find it in the writings of Asoka.

I have noticed we have fewer sellers of horse and buggy whips, too.

In other words, your assumption is that the labor participation rate SHOULD be higher, but the nature of technological advance means we have less need of manual labor, as Spidey never tired of telling us.

So, the numbers are accurate, and meaningless, because they are based on an assumption that high participation is good and desirable, as if the nation never changes. I have also noticed a marked decrease (a good thing) in forced child labor from earlier centuries.

See what I mean? Things change. Assumptions change.

A gardener can be our leader. Fools have pride and virtue. Obama gave a great speech last night and could become a great leader, his masters will dictate how it plays out.
Do not be afraid, we control our destiny.
Ask any dinosaur.

"Yet he serves the Gobalists ..."

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The people of the Gobi Desert are non-white, but so what if Wilber supports them.

Wilber is OK, for a white guy. You should support your own kind, Vlad.

To belabor the point a bit: 20% official U6 unemployment is the new normal, soon to increase to 40% as the "normal" official U6 unemployment rate.

Today it seems hard to believe that a president could be elected with that high a rate of unemployment, but we will have to change our assumptions about "growth" and "employment" ... in keeping with an alignment with REALITY. Join Up! as JHK says this week.

"...his masters will dictate how it plays out. "

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Don't be afraid. Name names. Who are Obama's "masters"? See if JHK kicks you off for promoting conspiracy theories about nebulous, sinister "masters" without names.

You are partly right and partly wrong. You figure out which is which.

Sounds like you took a Counter Initiation "up" there: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1597311324/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1597311324&linkCode=as2&tag=countercurren-20

E was right you know. As is said "Engaging in the Deeds of the Bodhisattva" "When you caught by Yama's messengers, what help are your dear ones: What help are your friends?"

We all must meditate on own death everyday - ultimately becoming comfortable with dying alone even in an alley or ditch. In the end we even be able to see the people gathered around your bed. The sense of hearing lasts even to the end and beyond thus the Tibetan Book of the Dead - and the harm caused by surgeons who routinely mock their patients as they work on them. Countless "engrams" are thus engendered by doctor longshoremen or savage handlers like Rip and Co. How are they different than Yama and his henchmen? As Tom Cruise said, Only we (scientologists) have the tech to handle unconscious people.

We all must meditate on own death everyday - ultimately becoming comfortable with dying...

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Meditation is a voluntary death. And each night we die into sleep, leaving our conscious mind behind.

The sense of hearing lasts even to the end and beyond thus the Tibetan Book of the Dead...

I have found this 4 CD three-hour meditation on death, based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead, to be very useful for confronting your own death:

BARDO: AWAKENING FROM THE DREAM
http://www.bardo-meditation.com/

You can listen to audioclips on that page.

"The difference between the almost right word & the right word is really a large matter--it's the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning"

M. Twain

The difference in how the reality party proceeds is a large matter-- it will make the difference between success and failure.

The basic problem facing the reality party is systemic change resistance.

This video explains it.

A form of analytical activism should guide the party. Classical activism is insufficient to the task and our opponents have already learned to defeat it.

We have systemic change resistance and need to deal with it. That's top priority.

✔ K-Dog

"We must all meditate on our own death every day-ultimately becoming comfortable with dying alone even in an alley or a ditch."

Exactly. And one step down from actual death- meditation would be to have a human skull on prominent display in one's bedroom or study as a daily reminder of things to come.

Up till a couple of centuries ago, Europe's thinking classes--some of them--used to acquire skulls for just this purpose. And because of the existence of ossuaries back then, getting hold of a nice clean human skull wasn't difficult. Byron had one.

Who? It begins with a J and rhythmes with Moo. Perhaps the same ones who were behind the Theosophical Society? Blavatsky hated Christianity and spoke well of the Toldoth Yesu - a medevial Mooish hate work against Christ.

Alas poor Yorick! There is also a visualization meditation: visualize yourself as a skeleton making the bones incandescently Bright White.

It is said to have a purifying effect on character. And the effort to visualize bright colors in itself is valuable.

I feel your pain. None the less, he has a following who have connected with him on a spiritual/intellectual level. Maybe a new religious group in the making. What can you do.

Nice week's work, JHK. Thanks as always.
Here's my favorite part:

"... the Republicans and Democrats are already dead. They choked to death on the toxic fumes of their own excreta. They are empty, hollow institutions animated only by the parasites that feed on and squirm over the residue of decomposing tissue within the dissolving membranes of their legitimacy."
-jhk-

Yeah, no kidding.
The fact that ANYone found the dem/repub conventions interesting is amazing, to me. I get it that SCOTUS picks are important - and would be different with Obomber vs. Mittens. But that's a 10-40 year, slow-moving-maybe - - - that comes down to death to America by a thousand cuts
VERSUS
death to America by slow drowning.

Neither choice is appealing, by design?

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Anyway, my somewhat-CFN inspired terraces and pond (the project I've been reporting here and working on for the past two weeks) are now in the dirt. They will be there as a permanent mark on the landscape for my children's children's children to use, ignore, or walk away from. All presuming that I can keep the whole shooting match grassed in and mulched for the winter rains-to-come - - - so that it doesn't all end up in the creek at the bottom of the mountain, along with my house.

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In other news -
CFN, probably like the open internet at large - remains a bastion of self-referential Atheists (deliberate capital A) like turkle and his Buddy Beantown - who declared His victory for us.

What do you expect, boys, when religion is vanquished and "rationality?" rules America??

Whatever it is - it won't be rational.
Not rational, as normal human beings use the term, anyway.

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OK - I''m probably done for the week.
Between "chinese 8m spam" and the all..seeing, all..knowing, and all..over...posting...asoka.., this place has become a nearly pointless time suck - at best.

Still - keep up the good work, JHK.

And some good posts from bt, E, and a couple of proponents of religion and spiritualism.

You guys keep up the good work, too.
Chinese? spam - go away.
Asoka..post less.
A lot less. Please.

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spiritualism?
spirituality is probably a better term

Who cares, anyway?

Certainly not zhvoeh2845, jhk, or his slacker tech guy.

And each night we die into sleep, leaving our conscious mind behind.
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Of course we CAN never, and WILL never, know what the nothingness of death is like but I don't think our nightly sleep even comes close. Besides routine dreams, I have done some major thinking in my sleep. I once calculated all the measurements and angular cuts for a piece of furniture I planned to build and fit in a corner. And when I awoke I wrote it all down and eventually built the piece with those very measurements and angles.

Now, I'll tell you what I think DOES comes closer to the nothingness of death than anything else you will ever experience... when they put you under for a colonoscopy. I've had three of these done and each time the same thing happened. They had a shunt installed in my arm. The anesthesiologist said when you're ready I'll turn a valve on this IV allowing the anesthetic into your arm. You'll feel a cold sensation and I'll ask you to count backward from 100. I said let's do it.

I got to 97 and I'm laying there wondering what's up with these people. A nurse walks by and I hail her and ask when's the Doc going to do the procedure. She says, Oh, you're all done and we were just waiting for you to wake up. I said "your shittin me!"

Let me tell ya, THAT was nothingness.

Oh, you're all done and we were just waiting for you to wake up. I said "your shittin me!" Let me tell ya, THAT was nothingness.

That's what I'm talking about and it happens in deep dreamless sleep a few minutes every night. We die every night.

Sure, there may be hours of thinking, tossing, turning, planning, dreaming, restless sleep, light sleep, etc.

But for a few minutes every night we enter a deep dreamless sleep... we die. Nothingness.

And we don't seem to fear it all that much, even though there is no guarantee at all that we will awaken again when we do go into deep sleep.

"your shittin me!"

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The word "your" is a possessive pronoun. What you should have written is "you're"

The work shittin should have an apostrophe to replace the missing g at the end.

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The WORD shittin should have an apostrophe to replace the missing g at the end.

There are many who 'connect' with people and their feelings. They can range from religious to politicians or gamblers to drug dealers and 'sex workers.' Question is how much you will fall for.

Good article about the Father of American Neo Gothic - completely ignored and forgotten by choice. The architect of St John the Divine in NY.

Neo Gothic? There's only one Gothic and that is the true Gothic. Who makes that claim? John Ruskin, that's who. No human exists today (or in he distant past; certainly not an architect designing "Neo-Gothic" architecture) understands Gothic art and architecture like John Ruskin and that's a fact. So read the man:

This statue, then, marks the culminating point of Gothic art, because, up to this time, the eyes of its designers had been steadily fixed on natural truth--they had been advancing from flower to flower, from form to form, from face to face,--gaining perpetually in knowledge and veracity--therefore, perpetually in power and in grace. But at this point a fatal change came over their aim. From the statue they now began to turn the attention chiefly to the niche of the statue, and from the floral ornament to the mouldings that enclosed the floral ornament. The first result of this was, however, though not the grandest, yet the most finished of northern genius. You have, in the earlier Gothic, less wonderful construction, less careful masonry, far less expression of harmony of parts in the balance of the building. Earlier work always has more or less of the character of a good solid wall with irregular holes in it, well carved wherever there is room. But the last phase of good Gothic has no room to spare; it rises as high as it can on narrowest foundation, stands in perfect strength with the least possible substance in its bars; connects niche with niche, and line with line, in an exquisite harmony, from which no stone can be removed, and to which you can add not a pinnacle; and yet introduces in rich, though now more calculated profusion, the living element of its sculpture: sculpture in the quatrefoils--sculpture in the brackets- sculpture in the gargoyles--sculpture in the niches--sculpture in the ridges and hollows of its mouldings,--not a shadow without meaning, and not a light without life. [Footnote: The two _transepts_ of Rouen Cathedral illustrate this style. There are plenty of photographs of them. I take this opportunity of repeating what I have several times before stated, for the sake of travellers, that St. Ouen, impressive as it is, is entirely inferior to the transepts of Rouen Cathedral.] But with this very perfection of his work came the unhappy pride of the builder in what he had done. As long as he had been merely raising clumsy walls and carving them like a child, in waywardness of fancy, his delight was in the things he thought of as he carved; but when he had once reached this pitch of constructive science, he began to think only how cleverly he could put the stones together. The question was not now with him, What can I represent? but, How high can I build--how wonderfully can I hang this arch in air, or weave this tracery across the clouds? And the catastrophe was instant and irrevocable. Architecture became in France a mere web of waving lines,--in England a mere grating of perpendicular ones. Redundance was substituted for invention, and geometry for passion; tho Gothic art became a mere expression of wanton expenditure, and vulgar mathematics; and was swept away, as it then deserved to be swept away, by the severer pride, and purer learning, of the schools founded on classical traditions.

You cannot now fail to see, how, throughout the history of this wonderful art--from its earliest dawn in Lombardy to its last catastrophe in France and England--sculpture, founded on love of
nature, was the talisman of its existence; wherever sculpture was practised, architecture arose--wherever that was neglected, architecture expired; and, believe me, all you students who love this mediaeval art, there is no hope of your ever doing any good with it, but on this everlasting principle. Your patriotic associations with it are of no use; your romantic associations with it--either of chivalry
or religion--are of no use; they are worse than useless, they are false. Gothic is not an art for knights and nobles; it is an art for
the people: it is not an art for churches or sanctuaries; it is an art for houses and homes: it is not an art for England only, but an art for
the world: above all, it is not an art of form or tradition only, but an art of vital practice and perpetual renewal. And whosoever pleads
for it as an ancient or a formal thing, and tries to teach it you as an ecclesiastical tradition or a geometrical science, knows nothing of its
essence, less than nothing of its power.

Below is a link to the church Vlad referenced:

http://wirednewyork.com/images/churches/st-john-the-divine/st_john_divine_21apr02.jpg

Good Gothic carving is, first and foremost, an expression of the universal rhythm of life: expansion and contraction. Or in terms of three dimensional sculpture, undulations of concavity and convexity that form the contours that ultimately contain them.

The carvings in the link, however, are formed from the outside in, as opposed to the inside out and the evidence is in the overly linear and flat - "liney" - treatment of the forms, especially in the drapery. They're not even close to the greatest examples of Gothic sculpture and the reason has a lot less to do with technical facility as it does with spirit of execution.

HUH???

'like doctors and lawyers. These are skilled profession where offshoring is not possible.'

Turkle, I have recounted the sorry tale of ECFMG several times here.
It employs 100? 300? people. [El Segundo and elsewhere]
All it does is help Indian MDs get their US license
and settle in.
Have you been to a Med School or Hospital and seen who are the doctors nowadays?

'And BTW, Americans expect a standard of living that is far too high when compared with the rest of the planet.'

What do you use for a brain?
Who invented the chip, pc, car, airplane, litebulb?
Check the mudhuts in Somalia and ask what they have invented.

hahahah..
You led me to a point, then threw a curveball with the last line.

Strong, prolonged, solution resistance clearly exists. There must be an invisible social structure that is the fundamental cause of the phenomenon.

We must find the system’s high leverage points and push.

It's even worse/better than that: we die every breath. There is scarcely any duration at all. How long is an instant? A dharma moment? Stop thinking of yourself as the noun Asoka and more as the verb Asokaing. The wave instead of the particle.

And since you are a process and not just a person, place or thing - you can change: actively, not just passively with the corruption of time.

Careful - that kind of devotion to Ruskin lead to the beginings of the New World Order. Men like Cecil Rhodes were so inspired by him that they vowed to spread Anglo Saxon Culture through out the world. Now the same movement is wiping us out - all with the best of intentions no doubt.

I wont argue about St John the Divine not being top notch. I don't have the expertise. Why don't you post on Counter Currents? I'm sure Mr O'Meara would have something to say back to you. It might be an informative discussion.

K-D,
A [miniscule] hope for truth amid a heap of clever lies. This article goes right to the pith of JHK's criticism of 'Murkin political status quo.

"With a particularly nasty bit of deceit Mr. Hayden, former radical, puts forward a liberal canard when he alludes to poll results that show zero percent support for Mitt Romney among African Americans as evidence of stealth racism amongst Barack Obama’s former supporters turned critics. What this statement conflates, in true Nixonian fashion, is criticism of Barack Obama with support for Mitt Romney. A quick speculation is that support for Mitt Romney amongst Barack Obama’s former supporters turned critics is also zero percent. Those with whom I’ve spoken favor a more radical rethinking of the entire political economy." -Rob Urie

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32391.htm

BTW, I would suggest to you [personally] that the most voluminous posters on this blog are disseminators of clever lies (and in some cases, unadulterated bullshit) in the service of corrupt and enslaving ideals that have, at their endpoint, the enhancement of the purveyor and their beloved masters at the expense of all others that do not believe exactly as they do. To me, that is the essence of politically-veiled evil.

And so, we ask ourselves, is it really desirable to know truth, when to gain it we must lose all else but our very lives? It looks to be more and more that way with every passing day that business as usual is carried on. The pressure is building faster than ideas for management can be imagined.

We can be assured, that when all that defines a life of ease and materialistic avarice is stripped away, raw truth will trump the clever lie by default. (Perhaps this is subconscious knowledge and is the reason for the alarming preponderance of delusion and wishful and stunningly magical thinking.)

Facing death has nothing to do with "connecting with feelings"

You can refuse to connect with the feelings of others, but you cannot avoid confronting your own death. You are going to die, like it or not. Join up! It is REALITY.

Viewed from that perspective, death does not exist. The process of death and life are ongoing, second to second.

Why don't you post on Counter Currents? I'm sure Mr O'Meara would have something to say back to you.

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We get enough of Counter Currents here, through your regurgitation of Mr. O'Meara.

I would suggest to you [personally] that the most voluminous posters on this blog are disseminators of clever lies (and in some cases, unadulterated bullshit) in the service of corrupt and enslaving ideals that have, at their endpoint, the enhancement of the purveyor and their beloved masters at the expense of all others that do not believe exactly as they do. To me, that is the essence of politically-veiled evil.

I would suggest to you a diagnosis of paranoia.

"clever lies"

"unadulterated bullshit"

"corrupt and enslaving ideals"

"politically-veiled evil"

You make a good parrot.

Paranoid parrots are the worst kind.

Oh, I forgot this gem:

"beloved masters"

Always unnamed. They must live in the shadows, these "beloved masters."

Paranoid parrot conspiracy theorist chickenshit cowards won't come right out and name names. It is always shadowy insinuation. Worthy of Joe McCarthy.

I'm waiting for XXX5 to post again, to inspire me to increase my level of posting to CFN. Bring it on!

IT IT CRUNCH TIME, XXX5. TELL US HOW THE EURO IS ON THE BRINK OF COLLAPSE, MAYBE TOMORROW, OR THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW. TELL US AGAIN HOW THE MIDDLE CLASS HAS DISAPPEARED! HOW WE ARE IN AN ECONOMIC DEPRESSION, BUT NOBODY BUT YOU REALIZES IT. PARANOID IDIOTS.

29 consecutive months of private sector manufacturing job increases be damned.

Hint: in a depression there are consecutive months of job losses, not increases (however small the increases may be, they are positive gains, not losses)

Could you be more consistent please. Try and keep the personalities straight. The impaler calls Ozone a parrot not you. Keep the personalities straight, a post-it note on your screen might help you tell who you are pretending to be.

Long article, I'm halfway through it and there is something i want to echo.


First, it is unfortunate that Barack Obama didn’t know this history as he was building out his domestic spying apparatus, expanding Presidential power to assassinate citizens without evidence or trial, executing secret drone wars on multiple continents,

It would be nice it that were exaggeration and hyperbole but it's not.

Barack Obama can rot in hell for eternity for the violence coordinated against us by the White House.

But he is such a loving father?

NOT !

I confirm:

A quick speculation is that support for Mitt Romney amongst Barack Obama’s former supporters turned critics is also zero percent. Those with whom I’ve spoken favor a more radical rethinking of the entire political economy.

And Obama is not totally incompetent after all:

The one area where he consistently delivered results was in keeping the ruling class out of prison and extremely well fed.

John Corzine would be one of those.

Not that John is really all that well off, do you realize that if John gave every man woman and child in the country a dollar he would go broke.

BTW, I would suggest to you [personally] that the most voluminous posters on this blog are disseminators of clever lies (and in some cases, unadulterated bullshit) - Ozone

Clever Lies? Lies maybe, but man, I dunno about "clever". Most of it doesn't stand up to a minute's worth of scrutiny. But as for unadulterated bullshit I'm with you there.

Asoka suggests a diagnosis of paranoia. He says you're a paranoid parrot. But if you think the fix is in, you're right, the fix is in. The question is in whose favor. Well, follow the money and that tells you.

The "fix" doesn't have to be explicit. It can be implicit. How so? It can be in the heavy hitters in the financial sector all jumping into the subprime mortgage market, all of them maintaining the fiction that securities backed by this financial sludge is triple A rated while knowing privately and never saying out loud that the music would stop and that there would be catastrophic failures down the road (which there were).

The "fix" can be in the financial elite quietly maintaining the fiction that disastrous levels of household debt is all ok because it's offset by steadily and rapidly rising home prices all the while knowing that said home prices were bound to crash and that the debt was in any reasonable and foreseeable case unrepayable (which is how it was).

The "fix" can be in the ruling class based in Washington and New York implicitly agreeing that the mind boggling mendacity and fraud underpinning the financial system as it is will go unprosecuted. How can this be? What possible justification is there? Well, I'll tell you, they'll say that these crimes are so awfully gosh darned complex and the evidence so vaporous that the justice system has no hope of marshalling the personnel and resources to go after it. And no jury has any hope of understanding it. Convenient wouldn't you say?

I agree with Urie, that the roots of the fiasco we're in go deep into prior administrations. How could people like Brooksley Born have been shut down? But what are fact and logic and reasonable people behaving reasonably against the combined monetary might of Wall Street banks and their sharks in Washington. Was Born right? Damn right whe was. What did it matter?

It appears that Assoka called you a chicken shit coward. Maybe he thought you were talking about him given the vehemence of his reaction. You must have touched a nerve. Good shooting.


SJM said:
Inspite of his baldness, chicks dig him. When I saw him back around 2000, he was going through his "flavor of the month" phase with nubile 20-somethings. He has a sense of style, lifts weights, and he's very tall and very smart.
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Oh, no!! I hate to lump you in with just about the entire feminine side of the species, SJM, but your post was basically "I like him because he is CHARMING". The New Age spiritual world has ALWAYS been full of Ken Wilbers who prey on young, gullible chicks, have a convoluted metaphysic full of spiritual "keywords", and who have such a God complex that they can abandon standards of vulgarity in public and get away with it.

I thought this guy was a scumbag when I scanned his first book and promptly put it down. It is vital that Americans start developing a better sense of critical thinking so that guys like this and their "theories" get exactly the air time they deserve i.e., **NONE**. SJM, being charming is precisely the nature of the charlatan. The Ken Wilbers of the world will never change the daily reality of people except to extract money from their pockets or favors from their vaginas.

Don't be another victim of these cheesy mesmerizers.

E.


Assoul said:

That's what I'm talking about and it happens in deep dreamless sleep a few minutes every night. We die every night.
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I love the way that pseudo-spiritualists throw out sentences like this with a certain finality. Your speech, Assoul, is just full of this kind of baloney. You do NOT "die every night". Even in the deepest, most dreamless, stage 4 delta sleep, the activity level in the brain is abundant and, in no way, resembles "death".

Death is the cessation of all neural activity. If you are "brain dead" in a hospital, your relatives will pull the plug. If you are in stage 4 sleep, they will NOT pull the plug. Any questions?

You are a hilarious, New Age moron who, like their ilk, make such pronunciations about the nature of the body or the soul that are false on their face but because you have the chutzpah to talk nonsense, we are supposed to make the FALSE into the TRUE by dint of the sheer power of the projection of your ego.

You are a charlatan and have never been anything else. That's why your dominance of this website is a tragedy that hangs over it like a GHOUL.

E.

I'll be healthy when I take office, I took a bike ride yesterday. Riding through a local neighborhood I look up over a row of houses next to the street I was on and I there saw my first drone in person.

All white and about ten feet long with a large tail the thing was totally silent. It floated over the roofs of about 10 houses going south then it crossed the street and came back going north along the houses on the other side of the street.
Over a couple homes it started flying real slow and then it sped up and eventually disappeared in the sunset.

Total speculation but Boeing has buildings in the area and there is a small airport where new 737's fly out from about a mile away.

I wonder if this was a prototype.

As is, this one was not a dog killer but it could definitely keep track of large crowds and the cameras can take nice pictures for the NSA.

Tax dollars at work&8253#;

Oops,


Tax dollars at work‽

An anesthetized brain results in an absence of consciousness, therefore a dead brain will produce the same result. Is this the reasoning behind your belief that the post-death state is a state of nothingness? If it is, what we have here is an unwarranted conclusion, an end to which analogical arguments often take us.

A brain deprived of consciousness by an anesthetic is still alive. A brain that has died is, obviously, without life. We therefore cannot know the consequences of the second state (dead brain) from the consequences of the first (anesthetized brain), for each state is distinct from the other. Death as nothingness? Possibly. But anesthesia doesn't bear on the matter.

Many people can push aside the prospect of death, push it aside and never think abut it. Some of us cannot, especially those of use who find the religions answers to death problem (resurrection, reincarnation, etc) nonsensical. I suspect that there are many people who would be greatly relieved to discover for certain that to enter the death state was to enter into nothingness. But if death consist of something rather than nothing--and it may--that something might be so peculiar as to be unpleasant, really unpleasant.


Vlad said:
In other words, I'm with SJ - he's very smart - and influential, knows the Clintons etc. And thus my bitterness at my ex-acharya for what he wont acknowledge or care about - Race. I haven't read him in years, but he helped me alot.
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Oh, no, another person I thought rational has a "guru". Next thing you'll be telling us that Eckhart Tolle is a great man. Sigh ... is this what's left of CFN??

E.

Jon Corzine's Advice to Barack Obama

I think this relates to the concept of the big lie. A lie so "big" that no one would believe someone could have the impudence to distort the truth so boldly.

In delivering the big lie a suit is always a good idea.


Vlad said:

It's even worse/better than that: we die every breath. There is scarcely any duration at all. How long is an instant? A dharma moment? Stop thinking of yourself as the noun Asoka and more as the verb Asokaing. The wave instead of the particle.
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This resembles the finality with which Asoka spews balderdash. We don't "die" in stage 4 sleep. We also don't "die every breath". And what this has to do with wave-particle duality is beyond me. I love the way you New Agers mix in a soupcon of quantum physics which is usually a non-sequitur to the foregoing line of chatter.

Are there any real SCIENTISTS left on CFN besides ME?? The essence of your "thinking" here is that after the breath is concluded there is some "moment" of "scarcely any duration at all" and, therefore, this is a moment of DEATH.

Any more pseudo-spiritualists want to weigh in with their own private definition of a word which, apparently, the dullest people seem to know more rightly than these metaphysicians??

Vlad, a conservative thinker should be way better grounded in reality than this, and way less egotistical about creating private definitions for words in common parlance that have fairly specific definitions, both anatomically and sociologically.

Who's left that has any sense on this site ... maybe Ozone and Q.??


E.

Who's left that has any sense on this site ... maybe Ozone and Q.??

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Turkle, MuddMike, Buck Stud, and many others still have sense. You can all keep your senses. I prefer to mix my sense with nonsense.

Obama knows about fear and terror but he doesn't seem to know about blowback!

Yemen Drone War Intensifies

To some here this doesn't matter I know. I'm not posting this for them, they are a lost cause. But to the other humans who know a dogs love I implore.

Let's stop killing brown people.

Oh, no, another person I thought rational has a "guru".

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XXX5, the word "guru" is Sanskrit for teacher.

The etymology of guru is: "Gu" means "darkness of ignorance" and "Ru" means "one who removes". So a guru is "one who dispels darkness of ignorance" kind of like the work you did in the community college, removing student ignorance little by little.

You were Teacher of the Year, right Guru XXX5?

Let's stop killing brown people.

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Let's stop killing people, period.
Let's dismantle the armed forces and have all those trained killers do something productive.

All they do is train and train and train. To do what? To kill other people and destroy things.

Abolish the military!

Wilber has said time and time again that he is not a guru, so stop calling him a guru. He knows he has flaws that would not make him a good teacher(his big ego, specifically).

He is a hermit. He vary rarely does public events. The only way he'll get rich is if people buy his books. If you don't like him, don't buy his books.

Thanks for coming out to play today, XXX5.

You ask: "Are there any real SCIENTISTS left on CFN besides ME??"

I have desribed the essentials of the scientific method (instrumental injunction, direct data apprehension, and communal confirmation) which qualifies me as a scientist. That is why I harp on PEER-REVIEWED ACADEMIC LITERATURE, instead of anonymous sources like Wikipedia.

How are you defining scientist to define yourself as a scientist?

CORRECTION

I have described the essential elements of the scientific method...

"‘Get out the vote’ is a plea for continuance, certainly not a plea for a radical party, meaning not a real plea for change. An individual longing for change within the current system, i.e., no revolution, faces a choice of two infinitesimals. Voting for a radical, or withholding the vote. The wisest choice may be, learning from the Soviet experience, that it is best not to validate the system by participating in it."

So don't vote, but if you must, vote ✔K-dog.

Full Quote

SJMom, you are arguing with people who dismiss Wilber without having read (much less understood) his oeuvre.

It's really not worth the effort, SJMom.

It is like arguing algebra with someone who knows no math.

Or like discussing Shakespeare with someone who does not know how to read.

Without having engaged in the instrumental injunction (i.e., learn math, read Shakespeare) they are not even qualified to comment.

Currently we are only killing brown people and dragging in others and disparaging the military in general confuses and detracts from the issue at hand.

But that's exactly what you want to do. Silly me.

But that's exactly what you want to do. Silly me.

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You have no idea what I "want to do." You are making assumptions again.

I thought you were interested in radical solutions.

Radical means going the the root. The root of the problem in killing brown people is that we spend Billions of Dollars to train killers. Stop the funding and training of killers and brown people can live.

Stop the funding and training of killers and brown people can live.

That includes stopping the funding of weapons systems, all weapons from firearms to drones, and stop the training of people who control the drones from safe bunkers in the USA. Stop the whole military machine.

disparaging the military in general confuses and detracts from the issue at hand.

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K-Dog, in lock step with Democrats and Republicans.

Thank the killers for their service, right K-Dog? Don't disparage anyone. Heavens no.

Vote Green Party.

The Green Party is the ONLY political party with NONVIOLENCE in its platform and NONVIOLENCE as one of its ten core values.

The K-Dog party does not.

We also don't "die every breath".

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Part of us does. Cells are dying all the time, just as cells are being created all the time.

XXX5, have you heard of Dr. Leonard Hayflick? (see his article in the Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences 2007 Apr;1100:1-13) titled
Biological aging is no longer an unsolved problem.

Hayflick performed his experiments using human cells grown in a culture, and he managed to pull back the curtain on an ancient process that essentially prevents immortality. The process of cellular death exists within our genetic code.

The nucleus of a diploid cell (a cell with two sets of chromosomes) is comprised of DNA information contributed by each of an organism's parents. Since the key to the Hayflick limit is found in the cell's nucleus, we are basically programmed to die.

You are defining death as "brain death" and that is perfectly acceptable. But that is not the only dying that is going on. As Vlad states, dying is happening with each breath we take.

CORRECTION

As Vlad states, DEATH is happening with each breath we take.

But if death consist of something rather than nothing...
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In my juvenile naivete I think of death as the light of a candle blown out. But if I'm wrong and, lets say, there is reincarnation, I want to come back as Eric Clapton...or David Foster Wallace without the depression.

When it comes to death we all have a juvenile naivete. But I hope to come back, so I can continue to correct Wikipedia articles, and contribute to CFN. I have not done nearly enough in this lifetime.

When all of the cells created in the human body before birth (and all of the cells these cells produce) are multiplied by the average time it takes for cells to reach the end of their lives, you get roughly 120 years.

This is the ultimate Hayflick limit -- the maximum number of years that a human can possibly live.

What's strange is that the Biblical book of Genesis (6:3) explicitly states that humankind's days "shall be one hundred years and twenty."

Then, the Biblical characters started eating junk food, and the life span was later amended in Psalms 90:10, which says we can live to age 70; 80 years at the most.

I guess, even back then, they had unhealthy fast food.

The shortening of telomeres that lead to the inability of cells to divide may be useful. The defeating of cell death would lead to continued copying of errors in the DNA that build up every day. It is though that the errors would eventually lead to cancers throughout the body.

Another recent advance in genetics if the project known as ENCODE. Genes, which are coded to produce proteins are only about 5% or less of the DNA. The rest is critical for gene expression, and other functions. Thus just finding genes for intelligence may not be the most critical thing for defining people. What was formerly known as "Junk DNA" is definitely not! This DNA may have more to do with the phenotype than the genes.

http://www.medpagetoday.com/LabNotes/LabNotes/34637

Death is the cessation of all neural activity. If you are "brain dead" in a hospital, your relatives will pull the plug. If you are in stage 4 sleep, they will NOT pull the plug. Any questions?

Yes, I have a few questions. I hope you can enlighten me.

What criteria would you use, XXX5, to determine the minimally acceptable observation period to ensure that neurologic functions have ceased irreversibly?

Is apneic oxygenation diffusion to determine apnea safe? What criteria would you use, XXX5, to determine the comparative safety of techniques used for apnea testing?

What criteria would you use, XXX5, to determine if newer ancillary tests accurately confirm the cessation of function of the entire brain.

Complex-spontaneous motor movements may occur in patients who are brain dead. What would you suggest as the most ethical way to proceed in those cases?

Triggering of the ventilator may also occur in patients who are brain dead. Are these patients dead or alive? How would you recommend determining if the triggering of the ventilator is a false-positive?


The shortening of telomeres that lead to the inability of cells to divide