Now we get to the really fun part of the global unwind where even money flowing into supposedly safe havens turns, presto change-o, into an evaporation of wealth, and all of the lawyer-lobbyists who ever double-parked on K Street in the sorry history of this frantic era will not avail to contain the demons of their own design.
The world is waiting to re-learn an old lesson: that untruth and reality exist in an adversarial relationship. Sad to say, there isn't enough legal infrastructure in the world, nor enough time, to pass judgment on all the lies and misrepresentations that burden the current edition of what passes for civilization. This goes especially for money matters, where currencies, certificates, and contracts actually have to represent what they purport to stand for. When those relationships fail, as they have been doing for some years now, everything falls apart.
This is what comes of evading the enforcement of norms and standards and of running exchanges without clearing operations. The response to this mischief in deeds such as the Dodd-Frank so-called financial reform act only heaps more hyper-complex untruth on the smoldering compost of prior intentional falsities. It all seems so hopelessly abstract that even thoughtful citizens can't muster the means to object until that magic moment when, say, the supermarket shelves go empty or nobody will accept the green paper cluttering up your billfold.
For all the epic volume of blather on the Internet and elsewhere, few have even remarked on extraordinary passivity of the vulgar masses in the face of having their future looted out from under them. The ethos of the penitentiary must have saturated the zeitgeist wherein you are expected to just bend over and take it good and hard where the sun don't shine and then you are rewarded with a baloney sandwich. At least that's been the theme since 2008.
The way things are lining up, though, it might be a whole different story when the two political parties convene this summer for their nominating rigmarole. I remain convinced that these fatuous rites will meet with disruption. Of course, both parties deserve an equal dose of citizen-generated shock and awe. Both parties need to be rebuked, humiliated, and probably dismantled so that this country can get on with the business of trying to become civilized. Charlotte, NC, (the Democrats) and Tampa, FLA, (Republicans) are the venues for these dumbshows. I hope to be there running a pitchfork concession.
Meanwhile, as what many observers call a "global slowdown" reveals itself to be a compressive collapse of faith in a system plagued by deception and pranged by massive cross-defaults, political uproar will rage through Europe and set the stage for emulation in the USA. Angela Merkel made a funny over the weekend: something about constructing a European fiscal union. That has about the same chance of happening as Mrs. Merkel becoming a pole dancer when her party gets tossed out of leadership not many months down the line. All the nations where people wear clothing are in desperate trouble. Their debt problems are insoluble and they're out of accounting tricks. Events are running way ahead of institutions and personalities.
Speaking of which, what dogs me more and more every day is how come Jon Corzine is still at large six months after mugging MF Global's customers, and what is the status of JP Morgan's "London Whale" fiasco now that the news media have conveniently stopped following the story. Have the losses blown past $5 billion? Or is that just one little tuft of yarn which, when yanked, will unravel the entire skein of world banking? Well, it's party season in the Hamptons now and the gentlemen responsible for these misdeeds are busy nibbling the sea urchin roe and cucumber tidbits, I suppose, and it would be unkind to ask them to testify before a congressional subcommittee or, jeepers, a grand jury.
Ever wonder what it might be like to live in a world without consequences? Well, you've had a good look at it for more than a couple of years. How did it work out? What did you get away with? And how do you plan to hang onto it?
The white magic is gone, long live the black magic? The fact that people still speak in terms of saving the system mean that some sort of Svengali-like work is happening in the background, and we can only ride out the consequences as we enter a new Dark Age.
Visit the Leibowitz Society at http://leibowitzsociety.blogspot.com/2012/06/hearth-and-home.html for more information and commentary related to the coming crash and unrecovery.
Endings are also beginnings, so we might actually have something new and better to look forward to yet in our lifetimes. But, like many of you, it's actually the transition I fear the most--the safety of friends and family during a possibly unstable transition period.
In any case, Jim, whatever's in store for us in the next few weeks and months, thanks for creating and maintaining this forum, for pointing out some humor in the insanity, for helping us to understand it, and for modeling a path to prepare (physically and psychologically) for a very different kind of world.
To those of you who have added value to this forum, without spam, baiting, or blame--you know who you are--thanks much for your wisdom. Be well.
It's impossible to know what is best to do. We the slaving masses hunker down, spend less or very little and wait. We appear passive, hardly surprising considering how many of our former friends and acquaintances and family members have lost their jobs, their health insurance (only useful if not actually used anyway) and above all any expectation of leadership.
To stick one's neck out in times of tumultuous change leads to getting it cut off, if history is any judge. Passivity? Perhaps. Possibly too a smart low key wait and see attitude.
There's going to be lots of food, if you're a zombie... bad joke.
So what do we do, James?
http://kulturcritic.wordpress.com/posts/the-despair-of-doing-nothing-a-thought-experiment/
Best headline of the morning from CNN Money:
Stocks: Investors pin hopes on central bankers
Run for your stinkin' lives - in a world gone completely mad.
"All the nations where people wear clothing are in desperate trouble."
James, this is classic. How can you hold out hope for civilization with remarks like this one!! LOL Kulturcritic
I think November 6 - a date Democrats always lose a presidential election on (a zero-year-jinx-like coincidence) - will continue to curse the Dems and give us a Romney victory. And as Rachel Maddow said, the Republicans will theoretically be able to use their power to ensure that they keep winning control of everything for all eternity through voter supression, union busting, and the Citizens United ruling. Hopefully one sober-minded Democrat, on the morning of November 7, will say what Whig Lewis Campbell said of his party after their trick of nominating a war hero for President failed in 1852 - "We are slain! The party is dead!" - and leave to start a real progressive party. And don'tr ule out a race war that starts when blacks, kept out of the voting booths in key states by voter suppresion laws and subjected to a Mormon as their Commander in Chief, finally vent their frustration beyond going into a recording studio with their latest slam poetry set to a disco rhythm. And I won't blame them.
Great post today, JHK---
Nothing could be more on the mark as we see the reality hit the fan. Can't wallpaper $1.4 quadrillion forever. In this form of inverted communism there are so few choices for things to be re-arranged. The interest rates stay super-low so people can't make money on safe money. The banks can borrow at 0%, but lend at much higher rates. They can game the bond market.
They have us around their little fingers and the "Job CRE-A-Tors" can just sit back, and wait for the Republicans to lower their taxes, do away with minimum wage,and smash the unions---yes they are all walking in lockstep to smash FDR, and destroy the middle class.
Who will be the buyers of last resort?
The simple answers are always the best. Re-instate Glass-Steagall, but the neoliberals and banks say no. Since both sides of the aisle have the same economic philosophy w. a few differences in rhetoric, our think tanks and educators, there is little dissent from this process and the untouchable Corzine runs free.
My theory is this thing will keep destroying wealth up the economic ladder. We are kicking up the cold war in the middle east, against Russia and in the South China seas. Love to know what fumes are going to make this possible.
I have quoted Orwell numerous times because it rings so true....
We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually on a battlefield.
• —George Orwell (1946)
With the way the thugs running the GOP are having Ron Paul delegates beaten and expelled from the conventions, you called that one right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgTpLOUxC6Q
Why isn't Eric Holder sharing a cell with Jon Corzine today ? Why is there No Justice in America ?
The fish rots from the head down.
Guillotine blade sharpening. An up and coming franchise opportunity ?
JK - you certainly have a gift. Your prose is beyond just gnarly - it is most excellent - as well.
Yes indeed - we are indeed at the apex, or summit of a mountain peak of cultural bullshit.
Even as a child, maybe as much as 30 or 40 years ago I always had wondered why people could break the speed limit or spit on the sidewalk. I asked my parents how I should tell which laws I could break and which ones I had to follow. (no answer as I remember)
The answer of course depends on who you are, how much money you have - and ,how you use your money around election times.
As you have concluded in this weeks exposition - all the contortions of the market makers have done nothing to attract the attention of the masses.
Don't be discouraged. There is value in your writing. Even if there is no attention from the stupor-induced masses you have so righteously warned for years.
Short of running around like a screaming lunatic and wasting whatever energy I have left, I can only think to go Zen and conserve my strength for the coming catastrophe. But I might as well enjoy the ride down the slide while it is happening. To bad there is a dragon at the bottom waiting to eat me.
Aimlow Joe was here
www.aimlow.com
Post 1945 our elite has tried to create the "New Man" dedicated to democracy and commerce, that endeavor is pretty much a clusterfuck these days.
In a bit of irony, the old reactionary party of my youth the GOP is most dedicated to this failure, even if you lefties waste your lives trying to hear its dog whistling to whites. The supposed radical party has become the party of Race as defined by Disraeli.
As a white nationalist (zionism for whites) I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Now remember my liberal friends, show no mercy to any "white" who strays on iota from creating a world without a white anything, no mercy.
Nice post Mr Kunstler.
Being over here on the European side of things, one can certainly sense a frisson of, shall we say, panic in the air. Or maybe it's just the smell of rotting faith?
I guess we shall find out soon enough.
22billionenergyslaves.blogspot.com/
Forsooth, Sir Kunstler!
"The world is waiting to re-learn an old lesson: that untruth and reality exist in an adversarial relationship. Sad to say, there isn't enough legal infrastructure in the world, nor enough time, to pass judgment on all the lies and misrepresentations that burden the current edition of what passes for civilization. This goes especially for money matters, where currencies, certificates, and contracts actually have to represent what they purport to stand for. When those relationships fail, as they have been doing for some years now, everything falls apart."
"Demons of their own design", indeed.
Again, as you aver, it's not just the shenanigans, it's the massive erosion of trust. The grifters know what that leads to, but they hope to bilk a bit more before making a run for it. How much further can they pay out the line?
So now, it's all about the consolidation of power by fear of violence. Can the people's rights be whittled away fast [and quietly] enough, so that by the time 'the folks' find themselves destitute and desperate, they'll be firmly under the thumb of a fascist Gestapo state with absolutely no recourse whatsoever? I believe that to be the race that means the most. Which will reach its' critical mass first? Awareness or enslavement? (The tentacles of debt enslavement are wound tightly around most [at least partially-clad folks], the question then evolves to whether those contracts should be honored. The Big Boyz certainly seem to lawyer their way out of their obligations slickly enough; they're not setting a "good example", or perhaps they thought it wouldn't be noticed...)
Word o' the Week:
Pranged-
Crashed; damaged by collision.
Good one, James!
Steve: What exactly is this "real progressive" party you hope for?
One that is more completely committed to a society based on an omnipresent central government handing out resources to the public that do not exist? (when I say "do not exist" I am speaking about the resources, although come to think of it it probably also applies to the populace)
It seems to me you share the cargo cult mentality of those currently in power, and differ only in that you want the Gods to marshal up a bigger fleet of air freighters to bring in their goodies.
"Welcome to the Wormhole" makes for an interesting image, but I'm not sure you're the right kind of science fiction author to make full use of it. The kind of technophile that usually writes stories with wormholes associates that phenomenon with the ability to cheat the speed of light. Wormholes are, after all, ways of getting somewhere faster, which is usually considered to be a good thing in science fiction. I have my doubts that's how you're using the term. A better choice might be the Event Horizon, the surface at which light ceases to escape a black hole and which marks the point of no return for something entering a singularity. Oh, wait, you don't like the idea of The Singularity, either.
Over at Crazy Eddie's Motie News, I've been in a science fiction frame of mind, posting the latest space, environmental health, sustainability education, and general sustainabilty news. I've also pointed out that Detroit just experienced the warmest spring in recorded history and has had above normal temperature for 13 consecutive months. The country as a whole has had the warmest 12 consecutive months since the closing of the American Frontier. Speaking of global warming, the politicians beholden to the real estate interests in North Carolina are proposing to make scientifically correct projections of sea level rise illegal. Paging King Canute! Also, one of the candidates in the runoff election for the corn pone fascist nomination for Texas's U.S. Senate seat is an Agenda 21 conspiracy theorist. Finally, the snarky animators at Next Media Animation are having a great time turing Detroit's troubles into farce.
As for my promise to explain what I wrote about Elaine Meinel Supkis, I know I haven't followed through--yet. Leave me a comment on my blog, and you'll light a fire under me to compose an entry.
Happy Motoring--for now--from Detroit!
http://crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/
This analysis is simply flat out wrong. It presupposes that money is a finite commodity and that ineluctible consequences will follow from its alleged absence.
Money is no longer a finite resource represented by physical gold, shells, etc. 'Wealth' can simply
be printed at will. The only downside is that the currency becomes worth less, to an extent that seems, at least til now, to be manageable.
In a world where money is freely printable in dollars and Euros, and in unlimited amounts, all 'money' troubles become manageable - though possibly with some inflationary consequences.
Kicking the can down the road is endlessly possible, which is why kunstler's predictions never pan out.
Who really believes Mr. and Mrs. Fatass Amerikan is gonna riot like it's 1968? Come on...
JP Morgan's $5B loss is somehow a problem? When JPM owns the Treasury printing press? Gimme a break, this isn't even a micro bat of a monetary eyelash. The whole story is just to keep the public placated, thinking "Good to see those bad guys got what's coming to them!"
The monetary game's over - paper has been the new gold for decades.
The refrain of "there's no money left" has become simply a game of who gets saved by the central bank of europe or the fed, in electronic transactions that you'll never know took place.
peace peaceniks
ps i reserve the right to be wrong
pps roasted a phenomenal 40-pound pig yesterday here over anjica wood coals. y'all come down now, plenty of room and water and good times here in south america
"Mrs. Merkel becoming a pole dancer when her party gets tossed out of leadership"
When the European food chain breaks give her a few weeks and she might just become a pole dancer or a wind chime hanging from a pole.
A broken food chain will be the end to America's obesity problems and start the zombie phase. Scary times ahead for sure. Mickey B, hizzoner from NYC will find no need to outlaw "Big Gulp's" cause there will be no deliveries.
Life is going to make some real shifts and only those who are prepared will see the sunshine on the other side. Healthcare will become whatever you have in your team's aid kit and whatever you can scrounge or steal. Delivered by a guy with 10 weeks of training at Fort Sam Houston.
My bet is that 3 months into the coming mess Gold will be $5.00 a pound and Butter will be $1000.00 an ounce !
What shall we do if we stop believing in ourselves? In the words of Kipling... CARRY ON, CARRY ON! All hail QEII. hang in there clusterfuckers! Most excellent post, sir James.
Excellent comment, BT/LB.
As to your Orwellian upshot:
"We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually on a battlefield."
• —George Orwell (1946)
Wholly Garbanzo Beans!
If this isn't the chiseled-in-stone credo of the psy-ops brain-wankers, it certainly SHOULD be!!
Well, this world without consequences has been going on for some time now, and it's only a question of 'when' it's going to halt.
I take solace in the fact that we are living through an ecological process right now which will correct itself as a matter of necessity in the not to distant future.
I am concerned about what the impacts of this dissolution might look like for our bigger cities and the citizens that live there. At my blog called 'planningdown' I explore options that could be administered to downscale our cities for a less energy and resource rich future. The transition process will be rough, but what other choice do we have?
-glaucus
[url="https://planningdown.wordpress.com/"]planningdown[/url]
Four American novels I've selected to display on my mantel (and I've read all of them):
JR by Wm. Gaddis (about money)
Blood Meridian by C. McCarthy (about violence)
Moby-Dick by H. Melville (about money & violence)
The Confidence Man by H. Melville ()
I can hardly recommend them highly enough.
-Phut
It is impossible to consume that which has not been produced. As such, the floor of our real production capabilities is set by what we consume today – the real assets that we MUST have today are the assets necessary to produce everything we are consuming. Moreover, since we currently consume a lot of frivolous things, we have the capacity to produce a lot more than is needed for rudimentary survival – there is slack that can be shifted to different uses at any point that push comes to shove.
Who exactly owns what is definitely a question (and one that is obfuscated through great economic complexity), but while not everyone may own (control) something, everything must be owned (controlled) by someone. Any crisis to come will be the result of disputes over actual control over things (and of lost capabilities as people decide to stop cooperating and begin fighting). It will not come from the discovery that the food we eat today, or the electricity we use, or the houses we live in, or the clothes we wear were somehow figments of our imagination.
Of course, what I describe is dependent on the availability of a broad set of natural resources not simultaneously falling off a cliff, but barring a nuclear winter or a zombie apocalypse, even the most pessimistic of models tend to suggest independent decline rather than collective collapse.
When Samuel Beckett's 'Waiting For Godot' enlightened Parisian audiences in the early 50's, it was the German prisoners next door who got it, produced it in their own prisons and wrote to Beckett, feeling electrified by the play, offering their interpretation, "your godot was our godot" they saw the lesson of fraternity even in the worst conditions, all waiting for godot knowing he is already there. godot was their neighbor in the cell next door, 'let us do something to help him then, change the shoes that are hurting him!'....
its all about symbiosis Beckett said. Relying upon one another for survival. Godot arrived long ago, we're just watching the outline fill itself in....no need to wait anymore.
Brilliant JHK quote:
"wherein you are expected to just bend over and take it good and hard where the sun don't shine and then you are rewarded with a baloney sandwich."
This is the JHK we have come to love every Monday morning!
for a preview of this summers political attractions read I B Singers 'The Gentleman from Cracow'
"what dogs me more and more every day is how come Jon Corzine is still at large six months after mugging MF Global's customers" Seriously? You don't understand why a billionaire who used to be a Senator and Governor is essentially immune to prosecution? For the same reason that ancien regime nobility didn't pay taxes. Laws are for the little people; this guy is both obscenely rich and politically connected. Such people don't face prosecutors. He may need to pay a (to him) small fine, but he won't be wearing an orange jumpsuit.
Is is simply fascinating to me how tenaciously our world tries to hang on to this unsustainable finacial 'system' which is, to us here anyway, in its final death throws. Or maybe because I really loathe the entire idea of investing, economics, 'making a profit' and see it all as
inherently evil that I see the demise so clearly. It is not without a certain mobid 'I told you so' that I look forward to watching the 'wealthy' squirm as all that wealth just....poof....vaporizes because it never really existed at all. What fun!
So the end is nigh. Doom awaits us, beyond our control. Won't have been the first time. The 20th century had a lot of those moments. Been there done that. What's a financial panic or two. Walk in the park compared to the slaughter of WW2. The only news I have heard recently that scared me was that Israel is secretly building in fleet of subs armed with nuclear cruise missiles. Now that's really scary.
Ever wonder what it might be like to live in a world without consequences? Well, you've had a good look at it for more than a couple of years. How did it work out?
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Of course, there is no such thing as a world without consequences.
There is also no such thing as a world where journalists can predict consequences reliably. Ergo, if and when you are part of the herd that is right this time, it will be with much the same veracity of a stopped watch being right.
Jimmy Boy, were into the shit for so long it's doubtful you'll ever really be able to gloat over the fall of mankind. When it comes, it will be with a whimper, not a bang. Even the die off will likely take a decade or two.
The masses may not be quite as clueless as you allege James.
http://www.Thesisa.org/
Have you been reading "How the End Begins"?
"Running the pitchfork concession" at a national party convention!? Oh James, now you're flirting with Camp FEMA for sure. NSA AI scanners are going into red alert with a terrorist threat like that. But it's all for our own protection, don't you know. And the police state is not all bad; maybe some of us have to go to the airport to get touched in that special way.
On another note, with rumors of 20,000 people at the opening day of the Des Moines Farmer's Market, I expect push back from agribusiness to strengthen. Agenda 21 folks are starting to liken it to "socialism" etc. Look for restrictions on local food to emerge. After all Monsanto, cargill, ADM, et.al. Have alot riding on the status quo and there has already this year been reports of food born illness coming from California.
great write n's today--gold will be price-less--and butter and all food stuffs will be left where they grow til they rot or picked by the hooligans,barbarians,etc...good luck everybody,its getting close.
I don't need to read that to know of Man's instinct for self destruction. The stakes are far higher than paper money and cheese nachos.
Well said! One of the most intelligent posts I have seen here in quite some time. Nobody should ever underestimate the The Sovereigns' power to distract and appease the majority and delay the inevitable. Excluding a "Black Swan" event or two, I'm calling SLOW CRASH all the way.
"the epic volume of blather" Jim talks about has permeated this site as well with a handfull of posters constantly feeding their egos, trying to change the mind of others to their point of view. At this point in time? Seriously? I don't read the comments after about 50 because it degenerates into off topic, I'm right, your an idiot, juvenile BS. The same thing has happened over at Zero Hedge and the now dead "Life after the oil crash". I used to get more info from the comments than the subject matter, but now it's mostly futile attempts at one liners and flame throwing. Like television, the internet could have been the ultimate tool for communication and learning. Now I to have sift through increasing amounts of shit to find anything useful. The time is here where I need to stop wasting time in front of a monitor and instead use it to finish preparing. Yes I know nobody cares, so you can save the "good riddance" comments and continue inflicting your superior intelligence on others.
Here in Venice Cali there was a small Coop that was busted. Catherine Fitts noted that 'there is a Whole Foods 2? blocks away, closing the 'Raw Collective' added a million dollars a year to that WF gross.
Found this online:
Romney's foreign policy advisors are Jews because foreign policy is best left to the Jews.
Romney's line-up:
Dov Zakheim – (Israeli Dual Citizen)
Robert Kagan – (Israeli Dual Citizen)
Michael Chertoff – (Israeli Dual Citizen)
Eliot Cohen – (Israeli Dual Citizen)
Eric Edelman – (Israeli Dual Citizen)
John Lehman – (Israeli Dual Citizen)
Evan Feigenbaum – (Israeli Dual Citizen)
Aaron Friedberg – (Israeli Dual Citizen)
Kent Lucken – (Israeli Dual Citizen)
Kristen Silverberg – (Israeli Dual C’zen)
I happen to live in a rural area of the 'global south' where the locals long ago learned to mistrust both politicians and their pronouncements from the distant capital, San Jose.
Having never completely abandoned local agricultural techniques and the 'under the table' rural economy, it seems that there is a palpable social awareness that hard times are coming.
More fields are being planted, more perennial crops established in former pastures, etc.
Both interesting to see the dynamic at work and grateful that they have land, tools and the know how to fall back on.
Yes, How can You / I / We prepare?
Suddenly, Jim Cramer has realized that there is a banking problem: http://youtu.be/IAnuuDser3A
Yeah, I've always thought zeitgeist had a fascist ring to it. "Spirit of the age" indeed. Like the Facebook news feed, a tyrannical consensus of silence.
www.offthegridmpls.blogspot.com
Big bags of baloney batman the early bird no longer wants the rotten worm and does not want radioactive Toxic Tuna.
Whilst the electric 'juice' still flows through those wires to your increasingly unaffordable abode, rent 'The Thirteenth Floor', directed by Josef Rusnak, wherein it is revealed that we---you, me, any thing, i.e., noun----are but verbs, consisting in 1s and 0s on the great? Simulator's gaming screen..............GAME OVER, would you like to 'play' (see: Shakespeare dude's various reveals about this all being 'staged', strutting players) again?! When I.T.s rules are per se arbitrary, petty human logic ain't gonna cut it.
I've returned to reading James' blog now that the economic crisis is boiling again.
I thought readers might be interested in an essay I wrote about "Creative Destruction" and Wendell Berry's Jefferson Lecture, given in DC on April 23, 2012, which was not well covered by the press.
The essay is "The Costs of Creative Destruction: Wendell Berry vs. Gene Sperling."
Mr. Sperling is one of President Obama's leading economic advisors,such as they are.
Wendell Berry is about an alternative economy, a local one, and is, in some ways, similar to JHK's directions, but at the rural not urban end, and with a different "founding" philosophy.
Here's a link to Part II: http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2012062202/part-ii-costs-creative-destruction-wendell-berry-vs-gene-sperling
Piss in my face and tell me it's a'raining.."7 billion where's there's room for 3"??You all are preachin to the choir....
Without a doubt, JHK’s column is the BEST part of Monday mornings. But the solution to the world economic mess was posted in today’s column – “a system plagued by deception and pranged by massive cross-defaults.”
Yup, cross-defaults. I owe you and you owe me. USA owes Europe and Europe owes everyone. And as hard the World Bank tries to gouge usury interest from the third world, there’s no getting blood from stones. If Europe defaults, then everyone defaults. The world can cross out each other’s debt with the touch of a computer keyboard. If the USA has to, it can even order the National Guard to commandeer the supply chain, take over the railroads and the food producers and drop ship supplies to towns to divvy up among the residents until it all gets figured out. No anarchy but a whole lot of national emergency. All we got to watch out for is the warmongers who want us perpetually tilting at windmills. Iran is just a windmill.
Most people won’t revolt. Not as long as the 300 lb. behemoths have the boob tube on and there’s Fritos to stuff in their faces. Even getting out of their collapsed easy chairs to check on their supply of guns and ammo requires effort that most of them won’t make. Too fat, dumb and exhausted to think or even move. Ever wonder why the government subsidizes corn syrup? That’s why. We, the readers of CFN, are probably a little more prepared, a little more cautious and a little more up on what’s going on because we read the newspapers, scan the Internet and discuss what the possible repercussions might be.
Knowledge is power. It keeps you 10 steps up ahead of the bullshit.
Yeah, CCm989
But what if these folks watching the TV have no walls around them and they're in cardboard box Hovervilles with the snow dusting their heads, then what?
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That's Ozone,
in other words,
When the truth is found to be lies
And all the joy within you dies......
Better than sitting here on my ass getting fat watching TV. Actually looking forward to it, and I don't know what that says about me!
The die is cast, we shall find out soon enough if the square in which your chips are placed will be a winner, or are amongst the many losers.
This is the way it has always been.
Such alarmism and dire pessimism. Continual warnings and predictions of a collapse that will never happen. (When is JHK going to realize that his "Prognostications Ratings" are very low, as is his resultant credibility?) We are not going back to medieval times... living in a barn with animals and growing potatoes, a plow and ox being our most valuable asset. Give this all a rest.
Welles is correct. There is no finite currency. It is all electronic money now, created at the will of the institutions in power. They will continue to muddle through and continue their errant and self-serving ways.
There will be collapses and follies but they will quickly be mended and replaced with newer follies and unusual solutions that will keep society rolling.
There will be no end to "happy motoring" either. Man will figure out how to continue to transport himself and get to wherever he needs to go in comfort and style.
I enjoy my car (don't use it that much) and it has acted as a major convenience and asset to me. I have no desire to use public transportation and will not. I like my privacy and the ability to operate my own vehicle and come and go whenever I need to. So do the rest of us and we will protect that convenience.
Knock off all the doom and gloom I say and concentrate on the positive and help to make a better world. Amen.
Good comments! I wanted to elaborate on the following:
Any new sources that rely on corporate advertising, I find, to be less reliable and more prone to "status quo" thinking. Most columnists don't have a very good grasp on much of what they are writing about, aren't able to question their sources and are loath to attack the companies that are feeding them.
For example, I read a headline that gives a rosy prediction for California offshore drilling:
"Massive Oil Deposits Off California Coasts"
When you read the details, they're talking 24 billion barrels total recoverable with 100 million barrels per day. That's 10% of domestic production, roughly 4% of our daily use and a little over 1% of worldwide demand. This would have virtually no impact on pricing. None of these pricing details is mentioned.
Reinstate Glass-Seagull? Great. And get rid of Obama, right? It's time folks. Mr Kunstler has lead the way of out the Democratic Party. But you seem to be lagging behind. Last week you even accused the Republicans of creating the idea of Obama as a Cult Leader. Bullshit. He was and for many (you?), he still is. And to deny this is revisionism.
And Liberalism needs alot of revisionism to keep going. Like pretending that Black behavior during Katrina was somehow the fault of Whites.
Corzine, like John Edwards, is in the protected class and immune from prosecution by the system they have created. BTW, I don't envy the 1% for their toys, mansions or insecurity but I do object when they bid up the price of quality food so high that I'm priced out. Examples: Halibut, ahi tuna, organic milk and soon Alaskan salmon. I guess the rest of us will have to make do with soybeans and pink slimeburgers. I truly hate them for that.
Meanwhile, as yet more "confidence" is lost I call Bank Runs, starting now in the PIGS States and soon to spread around the world.
The shell game draws closer to its ultimate end even as desperate measures are invoked. This can only go on for so long - how much longer is the Big Question.
Possibly some inflationary consequences? Seems Madam? Nay it is. I know not seems.
Americans wont riot? They did two weeks ago - anarchist/communists in Oakland. And they will on a huge scale if George Zimerman is found innocent. Or do you not think Blacks are Americans? One can only dream, eh?
A stick sharpend at both ends? You are the Lord of the Flies, Orson. And what did you do with poor piggy's specs? You think to solve the enegy crisis with solar, I suppose?
Both parties tend to be controlled at the top by the dIsraelis. See Anti's post. The one good think about Obama has been standing up (a bit) to Israel.
Let us reason together: Black Americans reached their cultural height while firmly under White Control. This is in terms of Blues, Jazz, and the Harlem Renaissance. They have done nothing since the triumph of Civil Rights which resulted in the squalor of the welfare state - also known as "The Great Society", except degenerate. And what they gonna do when the checks stop coming? You know what they gonna do. You know. Don't be there.
I'd like to see everything work out well in the end.
Americans wont riot? They did two weeks ago - anarchist/communists in Oakland.
a few dozen/hundred musty anarchists/communists don't even count, come on and get real, there is no evidence of any large-scale rioting taking place.
the US already went thru massive layoff convulsions in 2008 while the miscreants who should've lost everything (banks/bankers) walked away with your and my house as 'punishment', and where is the outrage to that? didn't happen, country is far too inebriated on fa(s)t food and tv idiocy.
europeans are much more prone to riots.
anarchists? give me a break.
communists? laughable
as for george zimmerman, yes non-thinking blacks will riot, but that'll quiet down too.
useless country with some good people left in it.
peace peaceniks
Did you just hear Rush? A poll in 2011 found that many people thought that Gays were 25% or more of the population. This tendency was greatest among young people and women. And what does that say about women? That they are creatures whose minds are mediated by the media. They remain "young people" all their lives.
The reality is Gays are 2 or 3 percent. And the Elite want to up end everything for this small minority. What about the rights of the majority?
Hi, does anyone have the scoop on which brand of Reptile Kibble was being served at the 2012 Bilderberg breakfast buffets?
Have you renounced your citizenship yet? I've heard their asking for alot of money to do that now. But it might be worth to get out from under our Tax Law. As it is, more and more foreign banks don't want to deal with the hassle the IRS is putting them thru with American Accounts.
Obamas Drone Wars:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/02/drone-wars-secrecy-barack-obama?commentpage=2#start-of-comments
Obamas Drone Wars:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/02/drone-wars-secrecy-barack-obama
"a world without consequences"
There is no such thing. All actions have consequences. The thing is whether or not you're forced to own up to the consequences of your own actions. And, yeah, not so much.
"The way things are lining up, though, it might be a whole different story when the two political parties convene this summer for their nominating rigmarole. I remain convinced that these fatuous rites will meet with disruption." The 1968 convention and Kent state will look like birthday parties after these conventions are over. The militarized police forces will be out in numbers cracking skulls with huge smiles on their faces finally getting a chance to put any and all protesters on the racks and tear out their lungs. They are prepping and training for the great days to come now and finally showing who has the power.
I know I can put a smile on all your faces, yet:
Check out this clever cartoon
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/banks-and-whole-democracy-thing-90-seconds-or-less
"All the nations where people wear clothing are in desperate trouble." You and I both know Sandy that any civilization is a gamble at best. In this case it looks like a loss.
Lacking JHK railway comment (Jim's looking at spv.co.uk map volumes) here is another item:
Because of fact the Curator Emeritus of the Smithsonian Institution has signed on to csrail, this merits attention of resident doomers hooked to this comment section.
Railway links survive EMP, inabilty to maintain Interstate Highways, and cut-off of imported and off-shore oil flows. Be sure you live within walking distance to a railway distribution point. If you choose remote residence, determine where the closest dormant rail branchline once ran, and put together a local consortium or financial coalition to get tracks back on the ground.
This is all simple building block stuff, ans large businesses reliant on trucking will join in when they are along the routes in the rebuild program. Natural players in the Oil Interregnum railway rehab are reformed US Army/Guard Railroad Operating & Maintenance Battalions.
Maintaining outlying US Post Offices is crucial assurance of a secure connection to the food supply infrastructure, particularly as the USPS reverts to the railway mail methodology.
The largest US rail systems are Mormon controlled (Warren Buffett), the lesson learned and described 100 years ago in Senator Frank J. Cannon's book "Under The Prophet In Utah". The Mormons are still in the food cache frame of mind, maintaining home supplies for 3 months, and other staples stored in common at Deseret Warehouses. Mormons are smart enough to encourage vastly expanded US rail distribution of victuals in advance of the emergency.
Mormon MBA's and Salt Lake Church leadership understand Transport & Logistics, LDS ownership in many truck lines is in addition to the strategic rail links mentioned. It may be Romney is the modern era Railway President? Lincoln visioned the US railway net before his death; Romney has the organizational (church members)wherewithal to put back together the US rail matrix extant before the VietNam era.
the bill collector is rattling at the door, but all the rats have jumped ship. Give me some pork, me guns and me whiskey, and I shall pay no taxes.
From your article...
"Barack Obama has become George W Bush on steroids."
This is complete horse hockey. He's like the "mini Me" version of GW. Has BHO started any wars in the Middle East that have turned into multi-trillion dollar boondoogles? When that happens, I shall reconsider my opinion.
ain't nothing wrong with being a commie, as long it's an honest job, or would you rather be a dishonest, yellow belly, religious bigot?
Most Californians agree with Jim about the proposed high speed trains. They want to build one from SF to LA and it's already way above budget before ever begun. The other one from LA to Las Vegas is complete nonsense since it starts about 70 miles outside LA.
financial ripoffs as "intelligent" in design, as it is living beyond your means, in particular if someone else is left holding the bag.
The Kent State "students" were throwing cinder blocks at the National Guard. Anyone who throws cinder blocks at armed men has no business in college for reasons both political and IQ wise.
if you are in shape you can go from Frisco to LA on a bike, unless you weight 300 lb and then having to come back, what a bummer...
on gravel roads....
If we Americans could all just run our blimp-mobiles on feelings of self-satisfaction and hubris, then we'd seemingly have an endless energy supply.
most kinds shouldn't be neither in college nor the military...
you don't need to be in the military to jog, do push ups or to throw rocks at headless horsemen....
hallelujah I'm glad I've stop drinking...give me, me guns and I shall pay no taxes..
"There will be collapses and follies but they will quickly be mended and replaced with newer follies and unusual solutions that will keep society rolling."
Is that what your Magic 8-ball told you, Stinky?
The Wisconsin recall election is developing into a very interesting spectacle. From the left, the issue is being framed as an attack on "The Working Man" and unions. From the right, the issue is framed as the average Govt employee receiving a salary and benefits package that is more generous than what the average private sector worker receives and not by a small amount.
Although I recognize the GOP strategy for what it is - eviscerate the earning power of private workers via illegal immigration and outsourcing thus setting the table for private worker resentment against "lavish" Govt worker salaries, benefits and pensions - the outcome of this election is a no-brainer: Walker will remain at the helm.
And frankly, as one of those in the private sector constantly on the prowl for "the next commission" and subject to the incessant emotional strain of negotiating the uncertainty of the current American economy, I would not bend over backwards or show up at the polls to ensure the continued security of a Govt worker who quite frankly could care less about me unless it concerns extracting more taxes for their future pensions.
I'm afraid my "ideology" is just going to shrug shoulders on this one. It's all too convoluted anyway and better a time for two steps back, one step sideways, and just watch it all fall down.
Some pertinent facts...
Most people on this planet don't own cars. There are something like 900 million passenger vehicles and over 7 billion people. Do the ole math on that one. Your paradigm of personal car ownership is not shared with most people, so don't expect the heavens to part in order for your pet lifestyle to be maintained at all costs.
Most of the rest of the planet, outside the wealthy regions, still live hand to mouth as subsistence farmers.
The global energy usage per capita has been falling since the 1970's. Thus, on a per person basis, we're already past Peak Energy and into the decline.
Now my opinion...
When fossil fuels are mostly exhausted, betting on a civilization-wide collapse scenario is a much better bet than thinking we will all "muddle along" somehow and that the magic scientist gurus will somehow "think of something."
"Possibly too a smart low key wait and see attitude."
"A prudent man seeth evil afar off, and hideth himself."
"Your species has come a long ways in a short time, If you do not have prudence, you have some workable substitute."
The Picts saw the trouble coming and took to the woods. Then the mountains, then to the sea beyond the mountains. They were not the type who would sit still to be raped.
What is your "workable substitute"?
Just relax, people. The car is not going away. Public transit isn't going away. Our monetary system is not going away. What will change? The way everything looks and feels. A whole lot of shit is going to get a lot more expensive (think Petro dollars, not Euros). Your job will probably go away if you're not one of the 1% who are lawyers, doctors, and bankers. Otherwise, prepare to pay bucket loads of greenbacks for that loaf of bread, hamburger slime, and cheeze doodles.
Housing will get cheaper, but you'll be spending so much of your cash on toilet paper and bread that rooming with 8 to 12 of your closest "buds" will allow your overgrown belly to be filled with PBJ samiches and the like. Think college dorm life, only you won't be 20, try 60. If you're just barely middle class, forget college and learn a trade. Learn how to unclog a toilet or sink. If you're a pretty, sweet young thing, learn the art of grooming the pubic hair of the 1 percent - you may get an unexpected "bonus" if you do a good job.
If you're a teacher, firefighter, or some other employee of the state, get together with some friends to learn how to privatize your services. There won't be enough cash in the coffers to pay your salary and/or pension - it's gone.
Trade will be a good thing to be able to exchange for your work, so learn how to do something useful...a good blowjob, for example. It's all good, after all!
James...
Multiple times in your recent writings you have referred to the upcoming Dem & Republican conventions and how you hope for disruption and violence similar to the 1968 conventions. First of all, you should be praying for peace. You should be joining others who are praying to the Lord God for peace and guidance and not hoping for upheaval and disaster. Secondly, you have the same warped view of 1968 that many people of a certain age happen to have. What you might want to CAREFULLY remember is that the disruption of the conventions in 68, especially the Dem convention in Chicago so disgusted the bulk of middle class Americans, that it virtually guaranteed the election of Richard Nixon. Do not think that the lazy, spoiled hippy rabble known as "Occupy" will win the hearts and minds of the people. What it will do is once again make people seek someone whom they view as a strong man, a man who will put the rabble in it's place. This would be a bad move all around. Again, I suggest that you seek the Lord God and pray for peace and guidance. You have a great many gifts, you could be a great prophet if only you would seek God and his son Jesus Christ, who would bring your talents to actual fruition and make you a prophet who brings people news that is true and believeable, instead of making the same empty predictions over and over. True, the time is coming where we are going to be in for the shock of our lives, but it is only going to be revealed in the fullness of God's time. Not in man's time or on man's schedule. You could be a truly great prophet James, but only if you seek God's wisdom. Best wishes.
Gays are probably somewhere around 8 - 10% of the population. In theory, they are not worth getting overly excited about politically. 90% of the population is straight and likes to breed. This will cause their poverty rate to skyrocket as the cost of raising children to age 18 and beyond will plunge even the upper middle class into extreme poverty. Let's not even do the math on the cost of a college education. I know several straight couples who have taken out 2nd and 3rd mortgages to pay for junior's BA degree.
It made sense back in the day when most folks lived on farms to have as many kids as they could...free field hands. As you know, most people today in the U.S. don't live on farms but rather suburban cul-de-sacs. Now, you may be able to raise a few rows of tomatoes, squash, or celery on your 1/16 of an acre, but it's hardly the stuff that a family can sustain itself on. Besides, what would your homeowner's association say if you were to devote part of your front lawn to growing eggplant, god forbid?
When you get around to talking to god, kindly let us know the approximate date when he's going to let the SHTF. Inquiring minds want to know! Also, I don't know how much you remember about 1968, but the times, they have a changed, dude! As I recall, garbage men as they were called then, went on strike to receive better wages and working conditions. This ain't 1968, and I don't hear any squawking from garbage, ahem, sanitation workers, or any other workers, like we did then. Splain yaself, peas.
It's only a matter of time now before we reach the event horizon of this approaching wormhole.
As the vertiginous nature of what poses for civilization increases, systems will unravel until the next final solution is revealed.
The upside,if you want to be the optimist is the pressures imposed on the planet by population growth will be diminished.
The Dogs of War are getting restless and they are the monsters of the coming end of the age.
For the visually inclined here's a intriguing depiction of those monsters;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLORNUOSCPE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL1B438A2E13DD52BF
One caveat, I don't agree with the author's take on who or what the monsters are. To me it leans to much towards the same ol' blame game.
But you make your own call...
" I would not bend over backwards or show up at the polls to ensure the continued security of a Govt worker who quite frankly could care less about me unless it concerns extracting more taxes for their future pensions."
End of story. I don't give a shit what someone in the private sector makes. It doesn't cost me a farthing.
That was a rumour. Actual count for opening day at Des Moines Farmers Market was 2,400.
Last week you were fantasizing about beating and slapping women and this week you are say pretty young girls should become prostitutes and get proficient at blowjobs.
I think you need the services of a strong man with an axe handle to straighten you the fuck out. You sure are a woman hating piece of shit.
You are also a blog hog, pumping out 200 posts a week of the same old black, gay, and woman hating garbage. It would be nice to see how CFN would be without you , if even only for a week. I believe a lot of new people would post here if not for your incessant postings.
I got my Vlads mixed up but the sentiment still stands.
I have no fucking earthly idea what you're talking about. I haven't posted here in weeks. I never mentioned anything about beating up girls, you stupid, red-necked idiot. 200 posts a week? You've got to have me mistaken for Asoka. Talk about assholes. Never said I thought women should be giving out blowjobs left and right. Au contraire, women aren't the only ones who can handle such things, you vile piece of shit-encrusted garbage.
Viva La Kramps! AKA Vlad Krantz, my hero!
Vlad may be gay, but he's closeted. I am OUT!
So the strong man with the axe handle gets to work over two Vlads at the same time, that's OK with me.
Hello Mistified. Does that include bankers? Their salaries dont cost 'us' anything?
Solendra?
'GREEN SCAM: 80% of Green Energy Loans Went to Obama Donors ...
www.thegatewaypundit.com/.../green-scam-'
'Although I recognize the GOP strategy for what it is - eviscerate the earning power of private workers via illegal immigration and outsourcing thus setting the table for private worker resentment'
So it was the Republicans that opened the floodgates in 65?
Yes, Mc Cain and the Neo cons are for open borders,are any of the [fold hands in prayer] Dems for secure borders?
Very, very good points, Buck Stud.
I too couldn't possibly care less what some entitled govn employee parasite thinks when they find their free ride is over. Atlas can't shrug fast enough.
Sorry Kramps, I totally misinterpreted your posts, to make amends I will pay for you to take Vlad on a two week cruise and every body will be happy.
Clackety-clickety-clack-clup-clippety-clackety... *ding*
-zzzrip-zip-rrip-
Ah, yes, I have it right here. A missive from the Most High.
Dear Ozone-dweller... blahdy-blahdy... salutations... yadda same-ol' yadda... vacation, wife 'n' kids... etc., etc.....
Oh, here we are.
"And as to those pleading and hectoring fuckwits with their threats and broken promises, please advise them that I gave them everything (and more) that they needed to enjoy the sheer awesomeness of the entirety of the universe and everything in it, and they went and made a FUCKING HASH OF IT! Tell them to stop with the pissy supplications and fervent belief that I have given them a "special" place in the general order of things. I most certainly have not, and for all I care, they can kindly go piss up a rope and then proceed to considering themselves less valuable than a small speck of ant droppings. Perhaps the large brain they eventually inherited could be turned to that endeavor without a lot of destruction as a result."
(There's the usual sign-offs and witticisms, but that was the portion I thought might be of interest.)
Can we make it a three hour tour? And can we include the professor (Elethro)and Mary Anne (San Jose mom)? And can I be....Ginger??? And you may be Gilligan. We can let Krantz be the Cap'n. Oh, golly gee, when can we set sail? Do we have to wait til the weather starts to gettin rough?
Oh, and let's let Kwoostik be the millionaire. And maybe we can let Prog. be his wife (hell, they fight so much, they might as well be married, right?) LOL! :D
OC Lifeguards at 200K a year, for one example.
I knew it, Lenny, I knew it!
I had a suspicion those damn clowns would get us all in the end!
(Pretty cool diorama, BTW.)
Krampaw,
Will it be the tiny ship, or the salad that gets tossed?
Hey Zone,
Do you know what movie that dio came from?
I always thought Clowns were kinda creepy, this just proves it...
LL
No, I do NOT!
Please advise ASAP!
(Guessing at one of the Matrix dealies?)
Oh, I should learn to read the comments.
Is the person correct that it's from "The Dark Knight Rises" (next Batman installment)?
Anyone out there know where this came from? (see above comment link)
While we're talking relevent movies, check out this segment from the 1981 movie 'Rollover'. Talk about fiction becoming reality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI8dfFN7H1w
Pass the popcorn...
Local newspaper yesterday listed State of CT public sector union members with pensions over $250,000 per year, almost too many to count. Most are retired professors from the State University system, police chiefs and ranking firefighters. Of course, they are all big Libs. The system might be seizing up, Jim, but these pensions must be paid. Govt. retirees are the favored class, and every last drop of sweat and blood will be extracted from the non-union working classes to keep them flush. Its the Law.
--WSP7
I agree with Jim. You are a disgrace. He has my permission to man the handle and straighten yo Blakc ass out with it. Go to it Jim.
Pure Rockefeller Propaganda via Kinsey - a gay or bi perv himself. Yet Gays have been lauded by the Media to the max and weak minds have succumbed. Homos are 2 or 3 percent. A gifted, noisy, tiny minority. The Love the dare not speak its name wont shut the fuck up already.
Excellent reminder to pray to the Lord Jesus Christ for peace. He is the Prince of Peace, and His peace surpasses all understanding. All of God's children should pray for peace. You are not alone, Mack. There may be many Christians who follow JFK's blog and read the comments here that hope and pray for James to understand that his gift of writing is from God. Whether James knows Jesus Christ or not, his sense of morality should prohibit him from calling for violence and revenge. It always saddens me to read of his desire for people to "take up pitchforks."
Diversity Visas and ...
I got this in an email and did verify ....
Barack Hussein Obama, in a determination letter to Congress, has announced that he will allow an additional 80,000 immigrants – - mostly from Islamic countries – - to resettle in the United States during fiscal year 2011.
Obama says that the increase in Muslim immigrants "is justified by humanitarian concerns or is otherwise in the national interest."
The following "goals" for new immigrants has been set as follows:
Africa . . . . . . . . . . . 15,000
East Asia . . . . . . . . . .. . 19,000
Europe and Central Asia . . . . . . . . 2,000
Latin America/Caribbean. . . . . . . . 5,500
Near East/South Asia. . . . . . . . . 35,500
Unallocated Reserve . . . . . . . . . . . 3,000
Refugee Resettlement Watch and other organizations have expressed grave concern that Obama is allowing so many immigrants into the country while so many Americans remain out of work and living in poverty. According to the US Department of Labor, 14.8 million Americans remain unemployed. 6.1 million have been out of work for 27 weeks or over. This figure has been challenged by the Union of the Unemployed who provide statistics that the actual number of unemployed Americans is 31 million.
The U. S. Census Bureau shows that the median household income for Americans has fallen to $49,777 – - a decline of 0.7% in the past year.
One in seven Americans no longer can feed themselves. According to The Wall Street Journal, 14.3% of the American people live in abject poverty.
A refugee is defined by The US Department of Immigration and Naturalization as someone who has left one’s country due to persecution or a fear of persecution. This accounts for the sharp rise of Somali communities throughout the country.
However, the definition of refugee is "fudged" in several cases. "Refugees" who have not left their country due to persecution, according to Obama’s determination letter, can still be called "refugees" if they are from Iraq, one of the Islamic countries of the former Soviet Union, or Cuba.
According to Section 413 (a) of the Immigration and Nationalities Act, the Office of Refugee Resettlement is required to submit an annual report to Congress on the activities of the refugees. The report is supposed to include the number who are on public welfare programs, but no report has forthcoming from the Office of Refugee Resettlement since 2007.
Related: Somalia militants kill Church leader and behead Christians, continuing crackdown on "non-Islamic culture."
'police chiefs and ranking firefighters. Of course, they are all big Libs'
Are they?
Oh, DADDY!!!!!!
I get horny just THINKING about the possiblities! Yummy!
Welcome to the Monkey House. Check out the comments: sanity is accelerating. Sorry Zone type losers!
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/chaos-plane-crash-hits-one-africas-largest-cities-225951869.html
...saw, by chance, an american try to renounce his citizenship in an overseas embassy once. he was roundly castigated, intimidated...
that's your free country for you, just try to leave. says lots about the place doesn't it?
peace peaceniks
Bilderbergers eating gold foil coated babies.
http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/06/04/really-conspiracy-theorist-claims-global-elite-feasting-on-roasted-babies-wrapped-in-gold/
Nice week's work, JHK. Thanks to you, as always.
Funny stuff, too:
"...about the same chance of happening as Mrs. Merkel becoming a pole dancer when her party gets tossed out of leadership not many months down the line. All the nations where people wear clothing are in desperate trouble." -jhk-
I wish you would sign onto the thread and elaborate on this one! Are you saying that Germany would be better off if Ms. Merkel would lead the Germans in a nude pole dancing festival??
That's an amazing image to put into the collective heads of the ClusterFuck Nation, going into a new week.
Chuckle. Chuckle! Thanks!!
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Speaking of the manipulation of public opinion, and the fate of Europe. There's a poll out that shows that citizens of 7 countries in Europe think the Germans are the hardest working population. One group of countrymen had a different opinion, believing that the GREEKS were the hardest working.
Which country though this, inquiring minds ask?
Greece. Go figure.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2012/06/01/the-8-most-fascinating-things-i-read-this-week-.aspx
Greek data is #2 on the list.
"Oh, and let's let Kwoostik be the millionaire. And maybe we can let Prog. be his wife (hell, they fight so much..." -v. kramps-
No can do, regardless of how bad your kramps get.
At the most, I'll do a guest appearance on Gilligan's Island. I'll be the head of a tribe of frightening tribesmen from a nearby island. Angela Merkel will be our most frightening tribal pole dance-person.
"There's going to be lots of food, if you're a zombie..."
That's no joke.
"Guillotine blade sharpening. An up and coming franchise opportunity ?"
That's the American spirit!
"Mickey B, hizzoner from NYC will find no need to outlaw "Big Gulp's" cause there will be no deliveries."
Mickey B will be guzzling piña coladas in the Caymans by the time it reaches that point; so don't worry about hizzoner.
"Excluding a "Black Swan" event or two, I'm calling SLOW CRASH all the way."
BS #1. War with Iran
BS #2. Demise of the Dollar
BS #3. False Flag Suitcase Nuke
If just one of these swans doesn't swamp our boat, God is more merciful than I would believe.
"because foreign policy is best left to the Jews."
Because no other tribe in history has made such a determined effort to infiltrate and destroy Western Civilization. Even the Mongols were amiable enough to leave us alone once they had taken Russia. Not the Jews. No way.
"Knock off all the doom and gloom I say and concentrate on the positive and help to make a better world. Amen."
If by "knock off" you mean get rid of, then I agree. Let's start by knocking off the 535 criminals in DC, and finish by eradicating the Federal Reserve International Banking System. That would remove a ton of gloom and impending doom from America.
"we are going to be in for the shock of our lives, but it is only going to be revealed in the fullness of God's time."
Amen. But don't you think He's already trying to reveal a few shocks to us?
No matter. She's a women and you get excited when you meet a woman - even on a blog. And thus you will worhip her and do her bidding. You and James Hansen will hunt me down at her behest. And then what? A stick sharpened at both ends.
I can see why you call yourself Stinkypants - because you are definitely full of shit. Go eat some cheese doodles, you self-centered fat-ass moron.
To Zone and other interested parties,
I found the source of the "monster movie". (See above)
Apparently it was a short film done for TV titled "Carousel".
The link below sends you to a video on the mechanics on how they did the frozen time segment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teoSDTJDjF4&feature=related
It's amazing to see the creativity expended for entertainment. Now if some of that energy could be harnessed to solve real world problems...
Enjoy!
Dear James,
This is one of your best posts this century.
I as a child, had a candy kingdom, I was on an airforce base in the middle of the state south of this one, Arkansas is my new home, but I was concieved here by my parents, but was living in the one to the south of me. If a westward bound plane keeps going westward, how many miles could they fly if they never ran out of power?
As many millions of billions of miles as they wanted too. There is no east or west or north or south, there is only one direction, Forward, then you find yourselve back nearly where you started, but not quite. As the earth rotates around the sun, the sun around the galaxy core and then the universal center line, whichever they can't find that, as they still can not see that far into the past.
Whomever wishes can imagine anything they want too.
But elements are the stuff of legends, gold, silver and copper being our most useful ones, and those are the things you need to have in hand.
As rome has the "As" we have the penny, the penny has 2.5% copper in it, but pre 1981 when the gov't was hoarding them as well as others, there was a great buy back, 2 cents pre cent the banks were buying htem in the years I was in highschool, and early in my first college years I have went to 3 colleges, have over 225 college hours of diverse classes and have experiences enough to say, Iceland told Britan to screw you and went back to doing their way and well they have hydro, fire and all the bauxite they can mine. so they will be fine.
They do have girls that don't wear clothes, so they might be counted off your list.
If you know things, keep learning, if you don't start fast, old tech, stone masons, iron working or steel making, check out boat building, just look at any hard leaf and see it curl and float onthe rain streams down hill, we aren't dumb, we got here didn't we.
If you think god is not here, turn to look at someone you know is bright and think,, what did he get taught before he was born of his mother's womb, in the dream time.
Then ask a monk to chop your head off in the highlander movies, or Dune or Lucas films of jedi, I am still figuring out several light saber build ups from wood to wired electrically charged thin motor windings, and a small solar battery off two copper pre 1981 pennies and a can of coke. or a bottle of coke the acid will produce power.
Knowledge is the power, if you lack it, you will oft times feel like a slave, I am not a slave to anyone but my maker.
Biowebscape design, my idea, says that I can on 1/36th of an acre grow all the food I will ever need in my 50 to 150 years of life. Trust me I can for myself do that. But can others?
If one can do it, others can too if they listen.
Then they can build the next best jedi sword to carry to battle.
If you lack it, then you will not get anymore and will loose what you have.
If you can't think of a way out of the box you put youself in, then ask if the jailer will let you out, if there is only you as the jailer, then hit your head on a firewall and hack your way out.
If you can't get this simple message,then oh well , not my issue, I just told you I could, if you can't chant and cant and recant and dischant, or discount all that I have said and think me a nut, a crazy old guy with a 6 foot wooden stick that says, to the police in my town. Charles, with his ninja stick, who is charles? Why is he carrying that stick?
Report a missing luna tick.... venus my love goddess, we see you pass before the sun of our eyes, song of solomon beloved, I am here, lover the lane, kill bill or russians kill the status symbol and rewrite the post for me. got to go
have a boomer to hunt down in the deep dark sea.
Flipped you off did I?
Peace from the only Lord of all, Christ the Jesus dude, that guy you love to dislike and know nothing about.
See the wall on my facebook, or the biowebscape page, or the tree house that a guy in tennesse built, with trees in a forest garden and you have man being swiss family robinson, the road I live on is Camp robinson, but off it not on it, or if I were on it, I'd be walking, driving or diving, or face painting the pavement with chalk, and going , listen to Tom Fm 94.9.... the clinton's of whom I have met hilary when he husband was local boy number Uno..... heh, we see the thing we want to sow or seed or see which tree did the tree frog's loose on your hillshire farms? It comes from the tongue twister off my blog about a tow trucking treed three toed tree toad.... laughs, so many horton's to hear the hooooo who is that masked dude, note this is a test, did you get the rest of the story yet, no he is dead, so sorry, next question. pLease, lay down your arms, no not those , the other ones, the arm off orion, in the drama of phioo K dick,, want to prick my finger now, or saw off the groin first, no , just light it on fire and the F X guys will make the notes to put your lights out at noon, the higher the lower, no just plain high noon, get your six shooters ready.
Doesn't it all sound like a good movie plot to you James, come on, this is dress rehersals for your stage play of the books you have, pick up sticks and styx and sting and bono and edge and slash and flash.
Got to go eat a few worms, and hatchlings, babies babies everywhere got to get eating the babies.
JHK said:
Umm, no, we live in a different world now. Currencies, like gold, are now electronic and have no basis in reality. Gold is in a past world that no longer exists. Gold is in the "real estate and housing always goes up" world of the 20th century. Gold is useless in the 21st century.
Welles is right on this: The monetary game's over - paper has been the new gold for decades. Actually, electrons have replaced both.
In a Fortune article earlier this year, Buffett cited gold’s limited industrial demand and placed it in a category of assets that “will remain lifeless forever.”
Charlie Munger said in a recent interview that, “Gold is a great thing to sew onto your garments if you’re a Jewish family in Vienna in 1939, but civilized people don’t buy gold, they invest in productive businesses.”
Buffett said: “Today the world’s gold stock is about 170,000 metric tons. If all of this gold were melded together, it would form a cube of about 68 feet per side. (Picture it fitting comfortably within a baseball infield.) At $1,750 per ounce — gold’s price as I write this — its value would be about $9.6 trillion. Call this cube pile A.”
Buffett then compared pile A to another pile. “Let’s now create a pile B costing an equal amount. For that, we could buy all U.S. cropland (400 million acres with output of about $200 billion annually), plus 16 Exxon Mobils (the world’s most profitable company, one earning more than $40 billion annually). After these purchases, we would have about $1 trillion left over for walking-around money (no sense feeling strapped after this buying binge). Can you imagine an investor with $9.6 trillion selecting pile A over pile B?”
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Currencies are now electronic and, like gold, have no basis in reality.
"You weren't supposed to find out."
Nice call, Pravda, JB -- I walked out on the Matrix, and I have a BSCS.
Ozone, Vlad: check out the 13th Floor (1999)
And, yes. I, too, think Ašoka is a program
:-(
Somebody said on this blog that the bankers don't cost the taxpayers anything---WHAAAA?
What planet do you live on?
What's been going on since 2008?
Why do we call this system corporate communism--or inverted communism starting with TARP?
They privitize their gains and socialize their losses and we are paying dearly for it.More than for war.
They only cost us globally $30trillion--but who's counting?
QE3 is on it's way--cuz it's the only option our global banking leadership has to offer.
As I said earlier this week. The banks borrow at 0% from the fed and charge us a larger interest to borrow.
And what's this for?---Geitner told the Europeans that the US bankers don't want to pay one red penny for any of this---They must make their huge bonuses---Why?
They are so talented, that's why!
Thanks Lenny and ak,
I do like my entertainment a bit on the surreal side.
Blowback time?
I just got my gold prices newsletter and guess what they just said:
[Coxe shocked KWN by saying that Europe is actively working to introduce gold backed bonds. He said,
“They would have the security of gold.” Coxe stated we could see this take place “within the next three months ... because this crisis is developing so fast.” Coxe also discussed the possibility of an emergency Fed meeting, but first, here is what Coxe had to say about the spectacular gold rally which took place on Friday: “First of all, a rally like this, you know a huge amount of it is short covering. The short positions had been building up on this. We were having one of the highest short positions on the gold futures that we’ve seen in a long time.”
Let's see what happens to the fiat currency and all them instruments of financial destruction.
BT,
Is gold as "overleveraged" as other commodities are (in dancing-electron contracts, or bullion vs. promises)?
I know this is quite another thing from holding "positions/bets" on it, I'm just curious is all.
Hey Ibendet, you're on scene down there in NYC ... Mayor Bloomberg proposes to limit access to Big Gulp sodas for all the plebes in Queens and the Bronx this summer ... do you know if his authority extends out to the Hamptons and if the ban includes Champaigne and Grey Goose Gin consumed by the bucketful by his billionaire friends out there during party season (which begins shortly)? Or is is just cold soft drinks sold at bodegas?
--WSP7
Good question O.
Like everything else it's over-hyped, but it has intrinsic value, so it is an option that the world could embrace once again.
After all is said and done about the virtual monetary system of no real value, but what they say it is, it could be a way of bringing the global system back in balance---it could even be the end of globalism--one can only hope.
Not good for the US as we are living in it now, but could be the reset button.
Maybe we have to face the music, no pain not gain.
no gain
Widespread--
Bloomberg figures you can't get obese on vodka--or can you? You could ruin your liver, that costs us too, but who's counting?
Mayor Bloomberg proposes to limit access to Big Gulp sodas...
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This is false. Bloomberg is not limiting freedom... people can drink as much soda as they want. He just wants to limit portion size to 20 ounce cups. It is a brilliant PR public health move.
Bloomberg is not limiting personal freedom... You are free to drink as many 20 ounce sodas as you want.
If you don't have anything better to do, WSP7, at least stop telling lies.
Asoka, will you be at 'The Hamptons' this season? Or are you headed to your unnamed but tropical bunker in 'Latin America'?
--WSP7
Some people will finish a 40 oz. soda if it's in hand, but will not be bothered to go back for a refill of a 20 oz. cup . Lower diabetes rate means lower public health costs for taxpayers.
Hats off to Bloomberg!
Back in the good old days a Coca Cola was about 6oz or 8 at most. A hamburger has a meat patty, lettuce and tomato. There was a soda called Hippo that was 12 oz. Now the marketing factor mandates huge bottles and the hamburger has become a belly buster as well as a threat to the national health. If we had a WW2 conscription we would be out of luck with so few in condition to fight. Don't know if this can be reversed by law but the anti-smoking campaign has also contributed to the fatty factor in our society as smoking increases metabolism I think or maybe it kills appetite.
Choose your weapon!
Oh yes, I certainly do. The books of Daniel, Revelation, the Gospels and Paul's letters all tell us that there will be signs and mileposts to warn us along the way. There is no question that God is giving us warnings that the sorts of shocks and disasters that we are all concerned about are coming our way. But they will only happen in God's time and not in man's time. Things will happen when God chooses for them to happen. However, God gives us warnings, instruction and wisdom through people whom he has given the gift of prophecy. In my opinion, JHK has the ability to be CORRECT in his predictions, if he seeks out God and his wisdom and asks God to bless his work. Otherwise he will continue to put out the same predictions over and over without any real accuracy. Don't be mistaken, the types of things Jim has been talking about are all going to come to pass, but ONLY in God's time, not in Jim's or collectively in man's time. We cannot avoid it. But we can be prepared for it. Jesus himself said that ONLY God knows the date and the hour. Not the angels, and not even Jesus himself knows the time. But God empowers those to whom he gives the gift of prophecy and to those who seek him and accept his direction and his gift of salvation through his son Jesus Christ. Yes, the signs, shocks and warnings are playing out in front of us. If we seek God and pray for his peace and wisdom, we will be ready. If not, we will be in for the biggest shock of all. God's blessings to you all.
The school of denial and false assurances at its best. I frequently see this as a healthcare provider when people are diagnosed with some form of terminal illness (usually cancer). People want to believe they will live forever, that the joyride will never end, that this or that magic cure will step in and save them. When they realize that their condition is still terminal, they tend to "buy time" (bargaining) and then when they deteriorate and feel so ill, some level of acceptance. Sadly, many hold out hope until teeir last breath.
I see a similar pattern of denial with peak oil, collapse, and deindustrialization. "Natural gas" will save us, after all, "there is a (temporary) glut"...but it is located near oil deposits and tends to deplete rapidly and without warning, those who have done their homework remind the wishful thinkers....."well maybe buy us time until we can build billions of windfarms and solar panels overnight". When pigs fly.
I have no doubts that most people as a whole will cling to the endless growth/endless abundant and cheap energy/all else fails, technology will save us forms of denial and wishful thinking, and that Mitt Romney will take off right where Bush and Obama left off in terms of military interventionism to "defend our democracy" (that is no longer any more hilarious that "humanitarian missions" and in fact when those resources are squandered in what will prove to be a totally futile act of a dying empire and if WWIII is not outright triggered, will result in a colossal net energy loss just like Iraq and more wasted time and energy to try to mitigate the inevitable and switch to renewable sources of energy, the flagwaving national chauvanists and their chant of "USA,USA" will be silenced as their lights go dim and the food disappears off their tables or rots in their once useful refrigerators)
I suppose its the same primitive level of thinking that the present human form has exhibited that lead to other forms of self destruction, including urbanization,car culture, consuming beyond our means and being lulled into some sense of endless growth,that nature is/was there merely for our benefit when in fact we were supposed to live in balance and harmony with her.
The insanity continues. My 45 mile commute to work is glutted with work crews wasting precious time, energy, and resources repairing roads and bridges that few, if any cars or trucks will be travelling on. In fact, the slopes along stretches of I-696 have been landscaped with nice shrubs and flowering trees that have to be occasionally watered when there are too many days without rain. The irony of it all. Of course, the ubiquitous presence of under cover cops, the survelliance cameras that set up years ago, in their new found preoccupation of pulling anyone and everyone they can over and ticketing them for 2 miles over the limit, having a nick in their windshield, not having their seat belt on, or whatever else they can. The roadside signs are sounding more like Big Brother "click it or ticket" as they try to fine, fee, ticket, tax, penalize, or otherwise steal money from anyone and everyone they can in some vain, futile, and undignified effort to keep the chronically broke levels of government afloat from what will prove to be an ever eroding tax base. Maybe the end of car culture will put these bastards out of business, but then I am sure they will have bicycle tire inspections, sandal/walking shoe inspections, fine people a year's slave wage if their driveway is wet after a rain storm, etc
This inability of so many to grasp their ears firmly and pull their heads out of their asses will result in the worst case scenario. The US in particular is especially going to get blind sided, with their denial and the party that they threw when they built the spawling suburbs and the interstate freeway system and a car culture comes to a crash almost overnight. The retirement system is doomed to fail, the death of the auto industry all but a foregone conclusion,healthcare is already a disaster and will collapse, when austerity programs are slashed, race riots, food riots, gang warfare, curbside justice, people may try to fight the government, but americans are lazy cowards and most will sit back and allow Uncle Sam to outdo Uncle Joe as the NDAA kicks into high gear, martial law is imposed, dissenters with any following round up and executed or sent to one of those Halliburton "FEMA" camps. The 12,700 armored vehicles and the 450,000,000 rounds of hollow point bullets will be put to use to suppress the masses.
Those who may be still working will need military escorts, and if they are denied food, still have to pay rent or mortgage, or are denied access to healthcare will get very pissed off if other people who chose not to work or act irresponsibly get these things for free, as is happening with increasing intensity now.
In sum, a great day of reckoning and alot of blood in the streets, a decrease in quality of life as well as life expectancy, not unlike what happened in the former USSR. We are not nearly as prepared for collapse/adversity as they were (read Dmitry Orlov's firtshand account and his brilliant insights). The more we deny it, the harder it will be. The more we try to prop these things up that were doomed to fail, the further and harder they have to fall. That sucks, but it is reality.
Evil Unspeakable: in the War against the White Race, they are focusing on the Children, trying to get them to hate themselves.
http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/06/evil-under-the-mask-of-love/#more-27413
Howdy Beingthere, Per your comment clip: "Somebody said on this blog that the bankers don't cost the taxpayers anything---WHAAAA?
What planet do you live on?
What's been going on since 2008?"
I agree with your contention with a small caveat the concept of governments borrowing money from bankers and then propping them up likely can be traced back to a bit before 2008 to King William, of England, in 1694.
For all of the armchair and degree holding economists I point you toward a youtube speech by a 12 year old Canadian young lady who succinctly describes one of the least understood and expounded upon, mechanisms by which the 1% fill their pockets by emptying those of the 99% and a simple yet astoundingly effective method to reverse it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx5Sc3vWefE&feature=youtu.be
Not likely to affect the final outcome for homo sapiens; but, it might drag some of the 1% back into the 99% fold prior to TSHTF.
SNAFU
Zimmerman back in jail for not disclosing that he had recieved 130,000 dollars for his defence. But perhaps he suspected the Goverment was going to take that money for "bail". It's not enough that his parents and his wife's parents had put their houses up for mortgage to make the bail as it was. The Feds are famous for such tactics. Why should a hate criminal like Zimmerman, one who has been marked for destruction by Holder, have the right to any kind of real defence?
Needless to say, Asoka defends such things and calls it Justice - as long as Blacks are favored that is.
The Elite seem to have too much control over gold and silver - else they'd already be soaring. The Master Minds of White Nationalism seem to be moving towards some form of Social Credit as Ezra Pound endorsed. This is sharp contrast to "Conservatives" who lack the flexibility to meet the dangers of the day. Even real ones like Ron Paul on a fiscal level at least.
TESTIMONY OF BIG GOVERNMENT EFFECTIVENESS:
None of this USA post-collapse chaos will affect many people in the world, because they have been aware of what's coming since the 1972 Club of Rome Limits to Growth report, and they now have a plan B. The USA will be hardest hit and many have already left the USA. Welles and DeeJones and yours truly have already spoken of rational healthy alternatives in parts of the world that will get along fine after the collapse... with splendid weather, slim, beautiful, great, and knowledgeable people, rich soil, and no need for petroleum to live well. People who continue to deny that escape is possible do so at their own risk.
Post-collapse I will be happy when the energy runs out and the military machine grinds to a halt. The "all-volunteer" army are not really volunteers. They are paid mercenaries who are only willing to kill because they are getting benefits (education, housing, medicine, job training, etc.) for themselves and for their families. The 99% will not stay in the military when it becomes apparent they will not be paid, when they realize there will not be any benefits due to societal collapse. The mass defections will mean the death of the military. See, I can engage in fantasy writing, too, and it has just as much logic and evidence as yours does!
Zionist Christians cop out and imagine they will be raptured out and not have to face the King of the World in his power. Not have to make the decison: accept the mark or be tortured to death. They'd rather let the Jews face the pain and have the glory. All of this in denial of scripture that says the Church will have to face these things.
But Zionist Christians worship Jews not Christ. And ignore his warning to "Beware the Leaven of the Pharisees (Orthodox Jews) and Saudacees (Liberal Jews).
Needless to say, Asoka defends such things and calls it Justice - as long as Blacks are favored that is.
Splash! Splash! Sorry, I just can't seem to rise to the bait.
What would Asoka have done if he'd been in the shoes of young Soviet men in the 1940s?
Asoka's answer:
"...if I did find myself in that situation I would not engage in any kind of violent self-defense. I would not kill another human being. From my perspective the more honorable thing to do is to die."
But Asoka, you do realize, do you not, that your standing aside would condemn to death women and children relying on you to defend them? It's not just YOU that would die.
Asoka further says: "My life has been saved several times by creative, spontaneous and nonviolent response."
OK well Neville Chamberlain tried the route of non violent negotiation and reason and diplomacy. And Nazi Germany ate Austria and Czechoslovaokia and Poland. And according to the numbers I've seen such an enlightened and noble approach by by the wise and experienced Chamberlain ended by costing 20 to 25% of the population of Poland their lives. Disproportionately unarmed citizens of course and naturally the most defenceless of all, women and children.
Asoka says: "Peace does not happen because you kill enemies"
I beg to differ. Yes it does. Germany and Japan have both been very peaceful countries since their defeat in WW2.
Also noted that you declined to repeat your answer to the question as to what you would have done in Harry Truman's shoes. So, for the time being, let's just pretend/say you already did address the issue and you're just tired of answering it.
But Asoka, you do realize, do you not, that your standing aside would condemn to death women and children relying on you to defend them?
This is one of the stupidest things I have read on CFN. Once again, imagining, supposing, and then judging ("would condemn to death") based on your supposition. Woulda, shoulda, coulda... all hypothetical, all subjunctive. The subjunctive is used to express various states of unreality. There you go again, reifying.
Nobody knows what will happen in the future.
Nobody can control what others will do and you are NOT responsible for their actions, or for what you THINK might happen if you don't kill them.
All you are responsible for is your own action. You would kill. I would not. Beyond that nothing can be said with certainty.
Angela Merkel made a funny over the weekend: something about constructing a European fiscal union. - JHK
Fiscal union may be something that Merkel may agree to. But when the good German townspeople realize the cost to them ie that their hard earned Euros are going south to fund disastrously corrupt and gangster infested regimes and their tax evading citizenry there's going to be trouble.
Peace may have reigned since 1945 and the tall foreheads in the Euro elite may be convinced that their way is THE way but they are outnumbered by the masses in the streets and town squares that would beg to differ.
I really don't think that the German worker feels he owes a living to the Italian who, in the German's estimation, spends his afternoon sleeping and or boinking his mistress. All the while of course the German is at his cubicle/shop/workbench.
Woe betide the German political elite that thinks it can foist such a scheme. As for the statistics that purport to show that Greeks and Italians work immense hours per week I have this to say: ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Pull your head out of your ass. Somewhere between 20 to 30 million Soviets died in WW2 because of the tender mercies of the Nazi military and its units special designated to deal with the Jewish question ie by way of mass killing. No need to speculate what "might" have happened. As I said, our family lost people to the fascist butchers. And I know other families that went through the same thing. The German army left the USSR a slaughterhouse.
But in the end, had you been a Soviet "conscientious objector" and explicitly refused to fight, you would not likely have gotten anywhere close to a German panzer unit. Why? Because the Soviet military would have blown you full of holes themselves.
A possible new arrival of the Regressive Party's Neo-fascists will be a pleasant surprise for the now suffering Teabaggers living all across the nation, living on the edge of economic survival, as they watch the power of the Regressive Hand come down on them.
No more unemployment compensation; no more health care reform allowing for their kids to be on their plan until the age of 26; no more allowance for pre-existing conditions to all those health impaired TeaBagging numbnuts casting their vote for the predator party of Romney, McConnell, Walker, Koch Bros, and the rest of the Brownshirts following corporate elite marching orders. No more regulation; no more financial reform; unencumbered purchasing of government, and government programs, and political legislation.
If Romney gets elected, the next four years for the Numbnuts Society will be damaging. Maybe they will be loving the pain. "Get Government out of my Medicare".
"End the federal spending"--a sign of stupidity when in reality Obama has spent less than each of the Republican Presidents over the last 30 years.
Not only is American the fattest nation in the world, but it must be the dumbest nation among the industrialized countries. My neighbors have proven it!
http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com
to deal with the Jewish question ie by way of mass killing.
You have already said you are OK with mass killing, so stop your complaining.
As I said, our family lost people to the fascist butchers.
So, violent resistance was unable to defend your family? I thought violence was necessary, the cat's meow, best thing since sliced bread.
By the way, Rhino, 30,000 children died of hunger yesterday. Children you CONDEMNED TO DEATH by your inaction. How does it feel to be a baby killer?
You idolize violence, thinking violence is the answer to human problems. You are easily led. You are gullible... in a way you are an innocent who imagines enemies and then thinks striking out at an enemy is an appropriate response. I feel sorry for you.
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
This world in arms in not spending money alone.
It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.
The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.
It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.
It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals.
It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.
We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat.
We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.
This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.
This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.
-- Address by President Dwight D. Eisenhower "The Chance for Peace" delivered before the American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 16,1953
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This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.
Summer in Tampa and Charlotte with normal temperatures in the 90s, doesn't sound like great fun for outdoor occupying. Besides, when was the last time anything significant happened at a national political convention?
Thanks for the link.
Yeah, the banksters and economists love to deceive everyone how complicated the system is and only they, understand the global sausage making machine.
Oh, don't give yourself a headache trying to figure this out. Don't forget it took one good accountant to figure out the Madoff was a fraud. He just looked at the trajectory of ongoing growth of the fund in relation to what was going on in the stock market and knew it couldn't be.
Make it all nice and opaque but talk about transparency.
Love that a 12 yr. old girl explains the basics to ya.
Victoria Grant was speaking of Canada. The U.S. Constitution (Article 1, Section 8) says:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes ... To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures...
I suppose that means Congress could decide to issue coins worth one trillion dollar, and with a few dozen of them, pay off the national debt.
Incidentally, there is only one public state bank in the USA... in North Dakota. In a public bank there are no billion dollar banker bonuses, no high paid bank executives, and no shareholders who profit from the bank. It is run by bankers and is publicly governed.
It is also interesting to note that Alaska has roughly the same population as North Dakota and produces nearly twice as much oil, yet unemployment in Alaska is running at 7.7 percent, about twice the rate of North Dakota's low unemployment rate. A public bank has been of great benefit to North Dakota.
CORRECTION
... coins worth one trillion dollars each, and with a few dozen of them, pay off the national debt.
CORRECTION TO UPDATE TO 2012 FIGURES
Unemployment rates
6.9% ... Alaska (with no state bank)
3.0% ... North Dakota (with a state bank)
"But Zionist Christians worship Jews not Christ. And ignore his warning to "Beware the Leaven of the Pharisees (Orthodox Jews) and Saudacees (Liberal Jews)."
The Leaven of Herod (half-Edomite forced convert, ie: an unbeliever) also wreaks havoc upon the church.
The Republican War on Women continued today.
The Senate Republicans have just blocked a bill that calls for equal pay in the workplace.
How do Republicans think they are going to win in November by waging a War on Women?
wreaks havoc upon the church
The church is the body of Christ and Christ's victory over death is a guarantee for all believers. If you are a true believer, there is no havoc, only eternal life.
"If you are a true believer, there is no havoc, only eternal life."
The point was concerning the echo of Herod in our time and its influence. No claims about eternity or "eternal life" were made.
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/coldfusion/Chapter.cfm?CID=25
The point was concerning the echo of Herod in our time and its influence ...
Exactly, and my point is such an echo is insignificant when compared to the eternal life that Christ the Redeemer guarantees true believers.
It is precisely the victory of eternal life that provides perspective on "the echo of Herod in our time and its influence." Minimizes the echo to the point of making it unremarkable, which is an argument that true Christians have no place commenting on CFN.
Arctic CO2 levels have hit 400 ppm, which is a concentration not seen in the last 800,000 years.
So much for the conservative argument, the argument of anti-global warming folks, that global warming geologic cycles in the 100,000 year range make global warming "normal" or that global warming is "natural" not man-made.
It's AGW ... anthropogenic global warming, pure and simple, and it ain't no "theory."
We are raising global temperatures, not nature.
Hello Bill,
Your thoughtful review of this great presentation gives us all material for serious consideration.
When Wendell Berry speaks out about something he does so with great humanity and firm conviction, grounded in the earth itself. He speaks truth, and he speaks with wisdom. Here is the link to the event: http://events.tvworldwide.com/Events/NEH2012JeffersonLecture.aspx?VID=events/neh/120423_NEH_Jefferson_Lecture_KennedyCtr.flv&Cap=events/neh/120423_NEH_Jefferson_Lecture_KennedyCtr.xml
Thank you for alerting us to this important statement.
Actually, a wormhole is theoretical. There is no observational evidence for wormholes, which makes it the perfect CFN metaphor.
Opinions galore, little fact.
Interpretations galore, little hard evidence.
Doom and gloom predictions that no one can substantiate. Orlov cannot help because the historical circumstances, the social fabric, technological prowess, political structures, etc. are very different in the current USA and the former USSR.
The beautiful, rare astronomy of the Venus transit we are now witnessing is evidence of an indescribably wondrous cosmos providing us on Earth with an exceptional, perfectly timed, and necessary infusion of Love.
It is almost as if the Cosmos is in a conspiracy with Asoka. The Cosmos knows there is no limit to how many people we can love. No limit. Thank you, Venus!
(Reuters) - A magnitude 6.1 earthquake struck 120 miles southeast of Mito off Japan's main Honshu island at 1931 GMT on Tuesday, the U.S. Geological Survey reported, while whistling past the nuclear graveyard.
Hickory, dickory, dock, the mouse ran up the clock.
You know the rest of the story. Time to get on with the repair jobs. Same scenario with the egg man, all the Kings horses and all the Kings Men could not put him back together again. So you move on and find a way to survive. It has all been done before. Be strong, show your kids the way. Love your neighbor as yourself. True wealth is inner freedom.
What Scripture are you referring to that says the Church will have to experience the Great Tribulation? Scripture seems to indicate that Christians will raptured before the Tribulation.
Why do you think this bill was defeated? Could it be more than Republicans' hatred for women? Could it have something to do with the Constitution?
From a previous post, why do you believe Christians shouldn't comment here?
"The Cosmos knows there is no limit to how many people we can love".
Or in other words: 'Where all da white womens at'?
Where's Charlie Trots? He can snap his neck and love him at the same time. A grope, tickle, and snap.!.
why do you believe Christians shouldn't comment here?
Because, as MD says, this blog is concerned with the echo of Herod and its influence ... which are mere trivia when compared to the magnificence of Christian salvation and everlasting life with the Lord God. Why would a true Christian, a Christian full of the joyful good news who embodies the peace that passeth understanding, be in the least bit concerned about the bitter whining that passes for intelligent commentary on CFN?
So the stage is set for the royal farce. You can have your choice of dumb or dumber, the puppet show will continue. It seems like George Carlin had the proper approach, abstain from the freak show. I like what Orlov says, "do not encourage them".
Dmitri has a splendid blog post this week, he sums it up very nicely: http://cluborlov.com/
Yeah, it dovetails nicely with the last seven years I have been reading JHK's predictions. Orlov is just as bad. Let's help out CFN readers with the first sentence of Orlov's blog entry:
I have been predicting collapse for over five years now. My prediction is that the USA will collapse financially, economically and politically within the foreseeable future... and this hasn’t happened yet.
Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
There will be no sudden collapse. There will be a long decline. The USA is very different from the former USSR.
asoka, you may be correct, things have a way of dragging on to the bitter end. Who knows, everything may work out for the best of all possible worlds. If we find ourselves in the middle of the cesspool, keep swimming. If it all comes down to do or die, sign on with the survivors, be part of the gang, kill or be killed.
Equal pay in a work place where there will be few, if any jobs, other than growing food and the new currency will be food, water, and in the case of many women, prostitution. Drugs will fall somewhere in between. Some still worry about whether a democrat or a repug gets elected. Some people live and learn. It would appear Asoka just lives, but hopefully not infesting the gene pool should the lifeguard forget to chlorinate it when he sneaks in and tries to cast defective ripples. On a happier note, they say competition drives down prices, so there will be some advantages to collapse, guys. Just stockpile those cartons of cigarettes and pints of vodka while they are still cheap, (and jars of cheeze whiz as the blocks of cheese will disappear for the welfare rats) find ways to stash them in places well dispersed and only where you know to get them, and you will have the ladies lined up eager to eat the lint off your carpet practically for free. Now that's my idea of equality. Otherwise, shut the fuck up and cook the raw meat that I drag home everyday. I guess there are some advantages to collapse other than the collapse of the military and a return to minimal, local government with citizen patrols instead of traffic enforcement cops and the end of the fed, the IRS, and perhaps best of all, the end of politicians and lawyers. People will find their true place in the world. Asoka will then learn that his sole purpose in life was to serve as a warning to others. A lot of reality tossed in with a little humor for a change for those with hopelessly trapped minds.
The USA has been a unique experiment in world politics, sociology, psychology and economics.
It was born of conquest, exploration and exploitation. The last frontier of the true capitalist and the laboratory of the future.
It will not go gently into that good night.
Kicking and screaming all the way. Hang on, it will be a bumpy ride. Enjoy the show.
OK
Yes, heres the [final?next] chapter...
President Obama to Grant Amnesty to Millions of Illegal
Aliens, Bypassing Congress Yet Again.
The Obama Administration is attempting to circumvent Congress and federal law by granting an
Executive Branch “amnesty” through a DHS policy change which could take effect as early as June. The
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) division under the Department of Homeland Security
(DHS) is proposing a “provisional waiver for unlawful presence.”
In the March 30, 2012 press release, USCIS Proposes Process Change for Certain Waivers of
Inadmissibility, USCIS Director Alejandro Mayorkas stated,
“The law is designed to avoid extreme hardship to U.S. citizens, which is precisely what this
proposed rule will more effectively achieve.”
This isn’t a “law,” it’s the Obama Administration circumventing Congress and “the supreme law
of the land” once again. Considering that since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly 100,000 Americans have
died at the hands of illegal alien invaders, perhaps tracking the crimes committed against U.S.
citizens by foreign nationals might be a better way to “avoid extreme hardship to U.S. citizens.”
Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State a Republican Form of Government,
and shall protect each of them against Invasion;" (Emphasis added.)
"Shall protect" means "must protect."
In the April 2, 2012 San Francisco Examiner article, Rick Oltman who works with both the Tea
Party Immigration Coalition and FIRE Coalition writes,
“Certainly taking criminal aliens off the streets, and there are a lot of them, is a good thing. But,
it is a no-brainer. It is something that should be happening every day, all the time and doesn't
even warrant an attaboy, because it is the federal policy of non-apprehension that has resulted
in allowing over 30 million illegal aliens to enter our country over the past twenty-five years.
Included in that number are millions of violent felons, child molesters, drunk drivers (Obama's
Uncle being one) drug dealers, thieves and murderers.”
(Used by permission, read entire article here: “A deceitful diversion about immigration enforcement,”)
According to Joe Guzzardi, in a 2005 research article published at V-DARE, there are
approximately “500,000 Anchor Babies A Year” born in the United States to parents who are
not U.S. citizens. The misapplication of the 14
th
Amendment’s citizenship clause means
Americans will eventually become a minority in the United States.Amnesty-2012 can be downloaded here: http://firecoalition.com/docs/Amnesty-2012.pdf
Hey Soak,
Relax, there are worse things to worry about. Think of every person that you encounter as a potential friend. Life will seem better then.
Enjoy every day, it could be your last one.
"Why would a true Christian...be in the least bit concerned about the bitter whining that passes for intelligent commentary on CFN?"
A little leaven, leaventh the whole lump.
"And when they came to Marah, they could not drink of the waters of Marah for they were bitter: therefore the name of it was called Marah. And the people murmured against Moses, saying, What shall we drink? And he cried unto the Lord, and the Lord showed him a tree, which when he had cast into the waters, the waters were made sweet."—Exodus 15:23-25.
Any idea what "the tree" represents?
pure poetry for the age of Aquarius. Let your love light shine.
Good cast of characters at this year Bilderberger demonstration. It becoming the thing to do. Oath Keepers also - a very good thing indeed. This group is one of the most important of all. The police and the military must come over to the People's side in force once the TSHTF.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news-blog/2012/jun/03/bilderberg-2012-real-men-oligarchs
Also think of the diseases: leprousy, TB, plague -things that we conquered here and kept out at Ellis Island. Amazing how low our standards have fallen. Also something called chagas - incurable.
Liberals are the Enemies of our Nation just as much or more than these aliens. As Cicero said, the enemy within is the most dangerous.
The repeal of Glass-Steagall was sponsored by three Republicans (Gramm, Leach, and Bliley) and signed into law by Bill Clinton. The banking lobby, which owns both parties, is the primary force blocking the Volker Rule, which is a watered down version of Glass-Steagall. Republicans, who want to get rid of all regulations, are also blocking it.
Glass-Steagall protected us for nearly 70 years. It took less than a decade after its repeal for greed to bring down the world financial system.
The Tree is the Cross which makes all bitterness sweet.
In Pagan Systems, the Tree is always the totality of Cosmic Manifestation - with its roots in Heaven so portrayed as upside down to us.
"The Waters" are often formlessnesss with which the Creator makes order. This is also is Genesis but is played down because the Abrahamic Religions don't like to emphasize the stages of Creation but only the de novo or out of nothing aspect. They think the stages demphasize the Absolute Nature of God. Also the fundies have trouble with Angels and/or Gods - why can't God just do everything Himself? Well He could, but maybe He likes to share the glory with his children? Delegation of Authority only increases the Majesty of the Delegator.
Christ said that his evil, adulterous generation would get no sign but the sign of Johah. What is this?
You're very slippery. Careful that you don't slip out of yourself and not be able to find yourself again. Or has that already happened Gollum?
Just ride that painted rainbow pony to the Rainbow Gathering dude. Don't dip your ponytail into the stew. Keep your beard out of the guacamole. What's in that stew anyway? The Indians ate meat. The Indians were good. So Meat is good. White Meat too? All meat is good meat if you are hungry. Just don't eat your own family if you can help it.
The Age of Aquarius is the Advent of Cthulu. He has awakened from his House in Ryleh beneath the Sea and is on his way. That's why zomibies became the craze - just a game right? Wrong. Now people are begining to act it out. Just a few right? So far. Wait and see. You can't believe what's coming next.
I keep the lights on here. Note the advertising, Jim. This is the real world. People want to know what I have to say.
The female rate of domestic violence is just as high as the male. Yes Jimmy, they attack men just as often. I know - pop culture spins it. That's why people come here: to learn. You've just learned something, now try to assimilate it.
Women are afraid to kill though. Not morally adverse to it though (anymore than men), just afraid of the consequences or of failing if they tried to do it. So they get their boyfriends to do it or hire someone.
I generally agree with your assessments, but I find you are too gloomy and cynical for my taste (nothing personal, MN). The US can go down rapidly, but if that occurs, it will be a Black Swan event, like a suitcase nuke, political assassination, military takeover, etc. These are things we have no power over, and to spend emotional energy being concerned about this stuff is a waste.
I don't think running out of oil is going to happen fast; we're not going to wake up one morning and find that there's no oil left in the world. The supply of oil will gradually run out and stop, like a faucet that gets more and more clogged up until only a trickle comes out. By that time I fully expect that the US automobile fleet, if still running on gasoline, will be getting much higher mileage than at present, thus delaying the end-time of the auto.
In reality, automobiles will soon be propelled by new sources of energy. Have you been reading the news about the new type drone that McDonnell-Douglas(?) has created? It's a relatively big aircraft, much larger than a pick-up truck, powered by fuel cells that allow the drone to stay up four days straight. Now, regardless of the morality of flying drones, it seems that the fuel cells ought to be able to power smaller devices like automobiles, and this is my point about questioning whether or not the end of happy motoring will ever occur.
By the way, this begs the question of why the military can get hold of this technology, but the public cannot. Hmmm.
As a science-trained person, I admit to bias concerning the advancement of technology. Maybe being a technophile is not a good thing, but neither is pessimism about us getting out of our current and near-future messes. My way of thinking is to assume the best, but to be on the safe side, prepare for the worst. At least that way I don't stay up at night worrying.
I don't want to learn anything from you, Vlad, as what you have to say is totally irrational. I'd guess many others here feel the same way. You are not universally admired on CFN, Vlad, although a handful of people have indeed come under your sway. Basically, you have nothing (or at best, very little) worthwhile to say.
The world may go to hell, and if so, there will be the wrong 1% who will identify with what you say, but will never gain enough power to have any real influence in the world, other than to cause a little mischief. What a poor legacy: That civilization must fall in order for you to get your 15 minutes of fame.
And if things don't collapse, your philosophy will never even gain a footnote in history. The sands of time will scour away any memory of your creed.
Believe it or not, Asoka, I believe in what would be thought of as some pretty unconventional things. Some of my beliefs even coincide with, match up to, New Age thinking. This is one reason why I can't get on board with a sort of race-less, Tan-man One World Mass concept. I believe whites are special.
To me, belief in whites as a People unto themselves is almost on a spiritual level. In a weird way, I believe there is actually some truth to the mythology that is associated with European whites and their (our) history. But that feeling in whites, that deep, is almost dead.
There I said it. I'm know it will be picked to death.
After November, we'll have the same old same old. As much as JHK opines that there will be disruption during this summer's conventions, I think the power establishment will do everything in its power to block out wide areas around the convention centers so that the media will focus on just the politics, while on the other side of far-off barriers, little attention will be given to any protestors.
If anything significent is to happen, protestors can't run a game plan like 1968 Chicago. They must be creative. I'd look for riots and looting in other parts of the 2 cities; that might get a lot of attention. A bunch of people milling around with placards just isn't going to work.
I agree with about half of his philosophy; the half that would make the most impact, and is the least cynical. A reawakening of white racial belief will be all that's needed. A lot of the clutter surrounding it is pointless, untrue, and should be jettisoned. Re-invigoration of white solidarity only has to be as violent and vicious as other races want to make it.
"What is this?"
"The Pharisees asked Jesus for a sign to prove that He was the Messiah. He did not give them the type of sign they desired, but He did give them a prophetic sign that they did not understand. Matthew 12:38-40 says,
"Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered Him, saying, Teacher, we want to see a sign from You. But He answered and said to them, An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign shall be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet; for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
This clearly identifies Jonah as a type of Christ in His death work on the Cross as the Passover Lamb. But it also has reference to Pentecost, where the Holy Spirit began to indwell our flesh. The Holy Spirit is pictured as a dove. Jonah’s name means “dove.” So even as Jonah indwelt the great fish, so also does the Holy Spirit indwell our flesh. Pentecost is only an earnest of the Spirit, which is to be completed under the Feast of Tabernacles at the end of this present age. Under Tabernacles, Paul says we will all be “changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet” (1 Cor. 15:51, 52).
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/SecondComing/Chap12.htm
The Bible does tell us in Gen. 1:14 that the stars (constellations) are “for signs and for seasons, and for days and years.” Furthermore, astrologers were not the ones who named the constellations or the stars. Psalm 147:4 and Isaiah 40:26 tell us that God gave them their names. They were named, in essence, to give us our first Bible. They foretold the birth of Jesus by a Virgin (Virgo), His death on the Cross (Libra), Christ’s conflict with the Serpent (Scorpio), His triumph (Sagittarius), His sufferings (Capricorn), the outpouring of the Spirit (Aquarius), the blessings delayed during the Pentecostal Age (Pisces), the blessings finally given (Aries), the Messiah’s rule (Taurus), the coming Prince (Gemini), His redeemed possessions—church and overcomers (Cancer), and finally the Messiah’s triumph and rule (Leo).
Try to look at the big picture, Tark. If our civilization advances much more, then it really won't matter what race you belong to. Many sweeping discoveries will take up our attention, like extended life spans, expansion into space, the wonders (or horrors) of nanotechnology, dealing with the implications of new knowledge, etc.
Really, in homo sapiens, races evolved as superficial differences in response to differing climates. That's all race is about. It's people who try to make races a big deal; nature could give a shit. If you must be satisfied, I'll grant you that the white race is special. Unfortunately for you, the black race and the yellow race are also special in their own ways.
Expand your mind, Tark, to encompass the wonders we're about to uncover, and stop wasting time on matters that will prove inconsequential.
NeoVince said ""Welcome to the Wormhole" makes for an interesting image, but .... A better choice might be the Event Horizon, ... the idea of The Singularity..."
All CFN titles already. They repeat on a bi-annual basis.
See much different: Communinst terror had the strange effect of "preserving" real culture underground. And the fight against oppression created great personalities as Solzhenitsyn obseved. But American Capitalism lets it all hang out - and all is lost. We will not hold it all together as well as they did.
The hard way is often the best - as your Prophets knew. When was the last time you put on sack cloth and ashes as lamented YOUR FUCKING SINS? And not just what someone did to you? When was the last time any Jews did? And the Ten Commandments and the Bible - God used you to give it to the World. But you make a big deal about yourselves as if YOU ARE GOD collectively speaking. The arrogance. The hubris. Have you no shame?
I am your teacher whether you like it or not. And Whites are special, which is why you have vowed to destroy us. And you are winning. And if you win, then what? Think the dark masses wont think of you all as White too? You need us. We don't need you. You should repent (turn back) while there are still enough of us to keep it all together.
Read the Science Fiction novel "Hold Back this Day" by Ward Kendall" - about the struggle of the last White Men to survive. Nothing about Jews in it - just Whites and the Triumphant Tan Man you bizarrely love so much. You said Whites will be remembered? No, their achievments are already being forgotten. And the Jews? Will they be remembered? I think you intend to suvive and help us be forgotten.
Thanks. I'm reading Mathew and that came up without the whole explanation.
The Astrology reference is really interesting. I've always felt the Church as a bit too abrupt in trashing all the old stuff.
As Mr Spock said, the beauty of the univese is in its infinite diversity. So Leftists and Jews try to destroy this diversity by blending everyone together - IN THE NAME OF DIVERSITY!!!! And the dumbed down Whites fall for it. The East Asians are sterner stuff, but the New World Order intends to destroy them too in time.
Meanwhile Permies and Organic Types rave about different varieties of vegtables and heirloom seeds etc. But bring up preserving their own sub race and they will hate you forever. You have done your work very thoroughly. Or are we supposed to believe that Jews owning all the papers, stations, networks etc is all just a coincidence? I'm remeinded of the Ray Bradbury story about a boy whose brain and body were being taken over by an alien who had gotten inside him.
You began to do things without his consent. Think thoughts not his own. Suddenly he couldn't see anymore. Or move. Trapped Inside Himself - the triumph of the Alien within was to make HIM the alien within.
Be more specific: I might not believe everything I seem to say either.
Your last sentence is a gem: the implied threat is necessary. No one makes peace with weaklings.
Sorry, Vlad, but I'm not a believer, as you well know. Forget about religions. Ifeel there's no God, so religions are based on falsehood. You may respectfully disagree, but neither of us will convince the other of our beliefs.
Unions crushed in Wisconsin. Scott Walker has humiliated the Liberals and Socialists. The People have spoken: this is what Democracy looks like.
They brought this on themselves - talking idealism but wanting to suck off the People during hard times. I'm not against some Socialism per se. And Unions played a part against vicious Capitalists. But they have grown as Corrupt as the Democratic Party.
You're using that atheist meme as a way to hide against the rest of my arguments. I see thru you.
I have sinned. I know that, and I don't need the Bible or a god to tell me that. But we are all only human, and we all sin. All I can do is realize my sins and forgive myself - even if there is a God, we must first forgive ourselves, even before God does. Then I try very hard not to repeat the sin.
No, I'm simply responding to your quote: "When was the last time you put on sack cloth and ashes as lamented YOUR FUCKING SINS?"
That has a religious connotation, and since I don't believe in religion, I felt I should respond accordingly. I'm not trying to hide from anything.
If you were a good Christian, you'd love whites, blacks, women and Jews, all equally. As I understand it, Christ preached love of all humans, and to forgive their sins as well.
What-does-democracy-look-like?
THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!
Bill, thats wishful thinking.
And what if the race goes backward?
Speaking of backward humanitarian [cough] Soros is concerned for Europe.
Maybe thats why hes putting 1/3 billion into reshaping it to an open society.
He put [thailand] under water, way back in the 80s or 90s.
'George Soros warns of three-month window to save euro | This is ...
www.thisismoney.co.uk/.../George-Soros-warns-month-window-save...
1 day ago – The European Union has a three-month window to save itself or face a lost ... pursuing flawed policies and always doing too little too late,' he said. ... which in a few years time may make an orderly euro break up possible'
Certainly in the 100s or 1000s of posts hes posted here hes never attacked the way you have.
I'm not sure about that. Some things like murder and rape are pretty unforgiveable by yourself. I wouldn't trust anyone who could easily forgive themselves of those. Without God, you would need to get forgiveness from the person themselves. And how could you if you had killed them? Or what if the women you raped wouldn't forgive you?
Not saying you do such things of course. You want to wipe out our race not hurt individuals.
Asoka thinks that China's 5% growth rate is good because it's a lot more than ours...
No, Beantown, without comparing to any other economy, the reason I think 5% is good is because the Chinese consciously chose to LOWER it from 7%. Think about that. Would the USA do that? The USA believes more growth is better, the higher percentage is better.
Because China has CONSCIOUSLY decided that 5% is more SUSTAINABLE, that is the reason I think China's 5% growth rate is good.
I am not a proponent of high profits from out-of-control growth. Neither is China. There are some very smart people in the Chinese Communist Party and they are making decisions that would not be made if China was capitalist, as some maintain.
Committing heinous crimes is not easily self-forgivable, true. Maybe 2 or 3 times in my life I dreamed I killed someone. What really stuck with me after the dream was how doomed I felt - like I would get away with the crime, but I would never be right, or be ok. That no matter what good I did from that point on, I could never wipe out the stain of what I had done.
The best thing McCain ever said was his joke about Janet Reno being Chelsea Clinton's father.
The worst thing was saying that Obmama was a good man and a true American.
He should stick to dirty jokes - much less harmful than dirty lies.
For seven years now all I have read about on CFN are event horizons out in the future. (Back in Oct. 2011 E. did say "crunch time is now" about Europe collapsing, but E. was wrong, just as he was wrong about quantitative easing and hyperinflation in 2010)
Now Soros and anti soak provide us with another:
The European Union has a three-month window to save itself or face a lost...
Always, a few days or a few weeks or a few months or a few years away ... always just around the corner, close enough to scare us, but far enough that it never happens.
And so it goes on CFN.
Yes, me too. That's why Catholics have the Sacrament of Confession. The Priest stands in (en Persona Christi) for Christ in a mystical sense.
I don't know how murderers live with themselves. Some have said the faces of all the men who they have killed rise up in their inner vision to condemn them. Even soldiers sometimes face this just in the course of doing their duty.
And MD says "it" will happen by the end of June... but he won't say what "it" is...
I don't know how you could know that China did that purposely. Given the closed environment in which the chinese government operates, couldn't you say it's just as probable that they wouldn't admit their economy is vulnerable, and made that up to hide that fact?
They abort so many girls. A tremendous yang imbalance has been and is being created. These men need wives - perhaps White Russians in Siberia? Or Black African? In any case, China is on the move, towards being an imperialist colonial state.
A hard choice, no? They had to lower their population, but the price has been very high in many different ways.
I always thought I could kill during war, especially if it was me or them. It can be pretty tough on me when I believe in no afterlife, so killing in a wartime situation, or in self-defense is something, in theory, I could feel justified in doing. But I wonder. Even if I knew I was justified, afterward could I really live with myself? Or would I have serious emotional issues from then on?
Just because it's wishful thinking, isn't it possible that many people could develop that attitude, if they were aware of the wider universe?
As far as Soros is concerned, I trust his motivations for what he says about as far as I could throw him, but he might be right about the Eurozone. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
I answered that question last week. Perhaps you missed it. It has been confirmed from several sources: the Beijing China Daily, the Chinese Communist Party five-year plan, and from economists in the World Bank.
From my post last week:
And here is some more evidence to consider: China lowered its growth rate because "there are some overheating in certain sectors," and "there are some inflation pressure," the World Bank's Chief Economist Justin Yifu Lin said, adding that the slowdown is aimed at ensuring smooth economic growth in the long run.
--Asoka's post of May 29, 2012 12:01 AM
You don't have to take China's word for it. They said in their five-year plan that they want to change their focus from growth, to slow growth to be more sustainable, and then they did it. You might doubt what the Chinese say. But when their actions speak for themselves and do not contradict their words, then you do have to believe them. Novel concept: communist party bureaucrats who are not lying.
Except for E, no one else has made me mad enough that I would attack so much. What you said before, about me being kind of crusty (or whatever word you used) is true - but only if I'm provoked. Actually, I have a great sense of humor. Weird, but great.
I have not sensed you as crusty. You always seem very polite, state your positions clearly, and defend them in a civil manner.
Would that more posters were as optimistic as you have shown yourself to be. You are one of the few posters here who doesn't have a knee-jerk doomster or conspiratorial interpretation of current events.
I enjoy the content of your posts and your sense of humor.
I know what you said, but I wonder if you put the cart before the horse?
Theoretically, I could see a scenario where high-ranking Chinese economists could see a slowdown coming six months down the line. The Chinese government might not want to admit they've done something that hasn't worked out, so they state they want to slow down the economy, and voila! six months later it does slow down. I believe China needs to maintain a very high growth rate to continue to progress because their population is so poor; slowing their economy down purposely doesn't seem logical - at least to me.
Also, I don't believe they really want to slow down, not because they are communists, but because all governments seem corrupt to varying degrees, and I don't trust them. Do you know of any major power government that has always been honorable and humane? I'm not talking about the people, I'm talking about the government.
Dimwit, I dont care what Soros predicts. The point is why does he say what he says?
Do you know of any major power government that has always been honorable and humane?
How are you defining "major power government"?
If you mean, superpowers, then no.
But there are governments that are interested more in the well-being of the citizenry than in perpetuating their own power or getting rich through corrupt practices.
Even in super-power governments, the majority do not intentionally engage in "inhumane" activity.
The minority that does engage in egregious behavior often finds itself the target of criminal investigation.
Corruption unchecked leads to the downfall of governments and most governments are not interested in their own downfall. It's counterproductive to their own self interests and to the interests of those they represent.
That's because you have never tried to provoke me, so you see my normal personality. You know I've replied harshly to those who have generally said hurtful things. One of my goals is to react to negative posts to me like you do - with equanimity. Although I've seen you angry, too. But that's rare. I'm trying, but I don't have your level of calmness. I think you understand how difficult keeping your cool is, especially when you know you are dealing with unfair comments.
I would like to reply, but as it's 1:30 am in boston, I've gotten very tired, so I must go. Talk to you later.
Theoretically, I could see a scenario where high-ranking Chinese economists could see a slowdown coming six months down the line.
China's 12th Five-Year Plan (2011-2015) was written over a year ago and submitted to the National People's Congress (NPC). If you are going to maintain that, somehow, "high-ranking Chinese economists" could see a slowdown coming over a year away, then I would have to say you are entering into conspiracy theory territory or anti-Chinese propaganda territory.
What the Chinese said they wanted to do in March 2011, they have now done, over a year later.
I don't think I am putting the cart before the horse. March 2011 comes before June 2012.
Why can't we just accept that Chinese have a better permacultural sense than we do, one that is not capitalist growth oriented? They have proved it by making a plan for slowing down growth and then executing on that plan.
all governments seem corrupt to varying degrees, and I don't trust them.
Maybe I've lived in South America too long and become less sensitive to corruption. Some South American countries have rampant corruption AND their governments still do good things for the citizens. There is no contradiction there.
I remember reading an article in a South American newspaper where one politician was criticizing another for "stealing too much" ... As a North American that seemed a strange comment. But that is how it is. Corruption is common and everyone expects it to happen. But even the politicians have a sense of proportion and feel it is unethical to take "too much" off the top of a project. The point is the politicians do develop water projects or electrical projects or health projects that do benefit the citizens AND they do take their cut, usually a modest cut.
You say all governments seem corrupt to varying degrees and you question if there are governments that are honorable and humane.
But it's not an either/or situation ... it's a both/and situation. There are some governments that are both corrupt AND they are humane, as much as that goes against our cultural upbringing.
THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!
Democracy usually doesn't count on a flood of out of state, secret and corporate special interest money to achieve its goals. Walker had a massive $31 million war chest to just $4 million on the unions side.
When you are defeated by multinational corporate money and special interests money, you just figure another way. The battle is not over. I think Walker might have gotten a message from the liberals through this experience.
I agree that all governments are corrupted in some fashion--it's human nature. Money and power will always have sway. Big money from around the country wins the day. Why this is allowed in a state election is beyond me.
But this corruption has an agenda and that's what's so bad about it.
If only the media would do it's job, people would know that in some states they have privatized their fire department and have people pay monthly on a subscription.
When someone didn't pay into it and their house was on fire, the fire department refused to save their home even when offered money. They were there to make sure the fire didn't spread to surrounding homes.
This privatized system is where this country is headed and I believe the Republicans are going to have their way.--That's what happens when people don't get the information they need to make intelligent choices. They see the little details for each instance, but they don't get the whole picture.
Nobody is framing the arguments against this properly. I know I'm a broken record, but someone has to keep saying that the agenda comes right out of the Milton Friedman playbook.
When the media and the politicians refuse to mention a name there's a reason, because that's the foundation of Reaganomics. Most of them have been schooled that way over 35 years.
I have anything but digested anything Dmitry Orlov has said since I read the 5 stages of collapse in late 2008. Sometimes I like to dig out my flame thrower and get a laugh from being an ass, but when I talk about energy issues, I am serious. I am studying the Long Emergency and The Party's Over, having read them, now taking down notes and doing more and more research and cross referencing notes. A pretty clear picture has emerged, at least for me, and it is not one most want to hear, but there it is.
To believe that technology will somehow save industrialized societies from failing or empires from collapsing seems to be the standard issue response that anything else that most humans are confronted with that causes them fear.
If a scientist and engineer like Dmitry Orlov, who is obviously a genius, has chosen to live on an insulated sail boat with a wood burning fireplace and plans to be far out to sea when the shit hits the fan, people should take notice. The man has studied these smooth peak oil decline curves and insists they are a bunch of nonsense.
He states rather emphatically that the oil cut off for the US will likely be sudden and abrupt, that troops will get stranded overseas. I still think the military will comandeer reserves in some vain and totally futile, foolish effort to keep the game going, but Dmitry points out the staggering amounts of energy it takes to maintain the military, let alone wage warfare, will run out as abruptly as the US petro dollar collapses and oil exporting countries, who already for the most part hate our government for decades of military bullying, will be more than glad to dump the US dollar for a basket of currencies or commodities for what is left of their reserves. which are in terminal decline.
We are at the top of Hubbert's roller coaster ride, these price fluctuations are the bumpy plateau before the steep cliff of sudden decline/cut off. Any new technology, even if its EROEI can match a fraction of that obtained from fossil fuels, would take decades to be up and running, and they will likely require some level of fossil fuel input to build and maintain them.
It is rather telling that Saudi Arabia is investing in solar energy as opposed to more refineries, and the major oil companies are not investing in more refineries. This would seem to prove beyond a doubt that world wide peak oil production was reached in 2005 and we likely have 1-2 years (if not sooner) before sudden, complete, and catastrophic collapse that will unleash a nightmare in the US beyond most people's wildest imaginations. The time needed to convert to methane is not there and if we use that to maintain our unsustainable living arrangements, that will deplete rapidly as well.
Get your lifeboat together now if you can or plunge to the bottom with those who thought the ship was unsinkable.
"I know I'm a broken record, but someone has to keep saying that the agenda comes right out of the Milton Friedman playbook.
When the media and the politicians refuse to mention a name there's a reason, because that's the foundation of Reaganomics. Most of them have been schooled that way over 35 years." -BT
And thus into the maelstrom of the Euro-Murkin economic "model". Wealth mostly tends to flow into the bloody hands of the oligarchs. (A profitable model if kept prudently hidden.)
Uncle Milty wanted to be well-recognized in his day (as when shown yukkin' it up with Pinochet after custom designing his whole brutal fascist economy), but these days his ghost is squeezed into the same closet as many other failed, moldering skeletons, while at the same time covertly studied by a cabal of believers and psychopaths. (Well sure, his "theories" have made the masters ever more rich and powerful, in the Randian ideal. Now THAT whole dynamic is a little too icky to contemplate, so let's not go there.)
...And not nearly as distastful and useless a broken record as the one that goes: nigger -click- nigger -click- nigger -click- (ad infinitum; ad nauseum.)
Had a fascinating little dream before I woke up just now.
Was in this big store type place walking around. There was all sorts of food booths. It was my first time there but I was starting to figure out how it worked. It was a self-serve all you can eat buffett except it was the size of a Home Depot. Being there for the first time I was getting a free trial.
I noticed someone with a paper plate with some plums and peaches on it, I found the booth it came from but by now there was just some dregs left- a couple small wrinkled apples, stuff like that. Some middle aged lady commented to me "not much left", and I said "yeah I guess it's the early bird gets the worm around here" and she chuckled and seemed truly amused by my statement, as was I.
then I woke up
Thanks for bringing it all back around.
So we contemplate: Why, oh why would loss of faith in currency[ies] be so important? Why is the oil trade denominated in federal reserve notes? (No "theory" there, Poppets.)
Somebody better get those tech institutes running 24/7 working on the next big gob of cheap and endless energy, because our CREDIT is about to be shut off. (How much energy do we import to prop up our princely lifestyle? Oh, THAT much?? Dearie, dearie me.)
Ah, that would be, "The oily boid gettin' da woim."
;o)
Me? Yes, going back to sleep to see if we can dream up a more "hopeful" dream. (Might not work though...)
"...all I have to do is dreeeeam; dream, dream dream..."
Hey kids!
Here's a fine use of dwindling resources, but it's all in the name of "pharohic grandiosity" (tm JHK), so why kvetch?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-12/artist-defends-london27s-olympic-tower/4007256
I must say, if you have to walk up that spiral to get to the top, you'd certainly get your daily dose of useless, endorphin-pumpin' exercise. (They really should use those last gasps of e-lek-tris'ty to run the elevator though; fat bastards need to be awed too.)
Dmitri Orlov on the timing of collapse (good catch MN):
"Plugging in everyone’s favorite Yogi Berra quote: “Making predictions is hard, especially if they are about the future.” Well, I beg to differ: making predictions about the past is just as difficult. The USSR collapsed unexpectedly in 1991, taking the “experts” by surprise. The root cause of the collapse remains veiled in mystery; the reason for the exact timing remains a complete mystery. Expert Kremlinologists were geared up to bet on minor power shifts within the Politburo, expert economists were entirely convinced about the superiority of free market capitalism over a planned socialist economy, expert military strategists could debate the merits of the Strategic Defense Initiative (there aren’t any) but they were all blindsided when the whole Soviet thing just folded up and blew away. Similarly, most political experts in the US are confident in their estimation of the odds that Obama will or will not be reelected in November 2012; what they can’t give you is the odds that the elections won’t be held, and that nobody will get to be president. Mind you, these odds are not zero, and we can be sure that such a day will come; we just don’t know when."
Put that in your prediction pipe, but think a bit before you light and smoke it.
So, violent resistance was unable to defend your family? I thought violence was necessary, the cat's meow, best thing since sliced bread. - Asoka
As I've said in other posts simplistic stupidness is the stock in trade of the blind ideologue and in your case spiced with bizarre rationalization and twisted illogic. But as weird as you are you're not unique. I've seen your type many times over the decades and gotten my fill of them at the academies of the insane that pass for institutions of higher learning on our side of the globe.
But I'll reiterate the blindingly obvious: The Nazis killed and killed and killed and would have kept on killing had the Red Army and its western allies not put the Nazi regime in the grave. How? By way of armed might. The Nazis weren't going to stop killing because we asked nicely.
As far as my own family goes, certain of them were unlucky, in the wrong place at the wrong time. Some were killed, some were maimed. And some escaped death by blind luck. They saw fascist evil for what it was. And they ACTED.
By the way, Rhino, 30,000 children died of hunger yesterday. Children you CONDEMNED TO DEATH by your inaction. How does it feel to be a baby killer? - Asoka
And YOUR inaction asshole. And once again I'll state the blindingly obvious: most of those thousands live in impoverished regimes. And I'll bet that most could have been saved. How? By the action of adults in those regimes. You know, ADULTS. They exist all over the world. They aren't powerless. They are just like you and me. And if through their action or inaction their children die or come to some other grief then I would put the blame exactly where it belongs: with those adults most proximate to those children.
I don't idolize violence. But you can't or won't get through your head that sometimes its the only way to stop evil.
Orlov on timing of collapse: "Mind you, these odds are not zero, and we can be sure that such a day will come; we just don’t know when."
NASA on catastrophic asteroid collision: "Mind you, these odds are not zero, and we can be sure that such a day will come; we just don’t know when."
USGS on the next great quake strike: "Mind you, these odds are not zero, and we can be sure that such a day will come; we just don’t know when."
Christians on 2nd Coming of Christ: "Mind you, these odds are not zero, and we can be sure that such a day will come; we just don’t know when."
etc. etc. etc.
Rhino, don't confuse pacifism with passivity.
Nonviolent resistance is an alternative to violence. Nonviolent movements in the 20th century like Gandhi's leadership of the Indian Independence movement, the U.S. civil rights movement, the boycotts in the Eastern Cape Province as part of the Anti-Apartheid movement in South Africa, the Danish resistance to Nazi Occupation, the Polish Solidarity Movement, and the Chilean democracy movement to oust Augusto Pinochet have all amply demonstrated the effectiveness of nonviolent resistance in confronting Nazis, communists, and fascists.
Just read the fucking article, nitpicking, denialist sub-realists. MN is closer to the truth of what's going to go down than many would like to admit; I don't know what's so repellent about getting your shit together "just in case"! What, your future misery is going to enjoy the company when the "folks" go mad because they won't face a change in how bid'nez gets done? Does the empire need killer conscripts that will work for food that badly? If so, relax, you'll get your chance to jine up or die by staying aboard the good ship Status Quo (formerly known as Lollipop, before the retrofit).
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2012/06/fragility-and-collapse-slowly-at-first.html#more
When full-throttle expectations meet the brick wall of actual constraints, bullshit and false hopes are OVER.
Wrong. Modern Democracy always counts on such things. Obama had and has a huge war chest - after stating that he would only rely on public funds - or have you conveniently forgotten all this cuz he's Black?
You all love Democracy so much! That's why your courts reverse referendums all the time. Again and again the people have spoken out against Gay Marriage. And unlimited immigration? Being replaced? They've never even been asked. But we know what they would say. You people are Tyrants, and the Republican Party is little better.
You people are Tyrants, and the Republican Party is little better.
==============
That's what democracy is all about: electing your own tyrants. People deserve the leadership they elect.
In Wisconsin, the Unions, the Students, the Unemployed, and the Unemployables made all the noise - but the People decided. You should be happy, if you really believed in Democracy. But you don't. You believe in the Democratic Party, not the same thing at all.
All the Media bowed to the Black Messiah last time. No one did their job, least of all McCain. But Romney is going to slam him. As is the real Media. Not the Liberal Tripe you listen to, the Court Media.
You're right about Reagan btw. His whole Cabinet was CFR but he wasn't. A complete patsy. The people behind the two parties are the same. Why can't you admit that and be free? No real person can be a member of either Party. Come out of the shadows into the Light.
You just aren't clue-ing in are you.
There was a paper done by a Steven Welch at the Univ of Melbourne called "Nazi Plans For and Use of Famine in Eastern Europe".
Now you can call this bucket of plop by an airhead academic but what he says matches the reality of what happened in the 1940s. In it he describes a German plan for the massive liquidation of Eastern Europe via the movement or killing (via starvation) of 30 to 50 million people in Poland, Czechoslovakia and the USSR and the enslavement of millions more.
I'm going to remind you of the obvious: nonviolence bought the Jews one thing. Death. European Jewry was wiped out. This plan for the eradication of large parts of Slavic Europe was no joke.
Ozone, from the article you linked to, Orlov says, and I quote: "I knew that the USSR was going to collapse a year or so before it did. How did I know? By watching carefully, and by realizing that things can’t go on much longer in the same direction. I am doing the same with the USA now."
By his own admission Orlov has now been "doing the same" ... predicting the imminent collapse of the USA for five years ... which is why I am not an Orlov worshiper.
By the way, I am smarter than Orlov. I have created a set-up with an adobe mud hut which requires no heat, no air conditioning (i.e., no petroleum inputs), and I have abundant natural food, water, and year round sunshine (no effort is required for heating or cooling) in a part of the world where the temperature is a constant 80 degrees daytime and 60 degrees at night, every day of the year, due to proximity to the equator.
One of the stupidest places to be at the time of collapse would be on a boat on the ocean. How much time can you be on a boat before food and water runs out? Has Orlov ever heard of pirates? Orlov is not too smart.
Oh yes, what a hero Ghandi supposedly was. Only after the limeys raped and pillaged much of India's natural resources did they leave. If Ghandi had issued them all automatic weapons sooner,instead of telling them to do stupid shit like line up and get their heads smashed in, they would have driven those fuckers back from the rocks they crawled out from under sooner and India would have been much better off. There were millions of Indians back then, and how many thousands of British troops? Do the math. Ghandi was a failure to his people in my book
Tell them about the money laundering scheme between the Unions and the Democratic Party: Union dues go to Democratic Candidates and those Candidates then support outrageous benefit packages for the Unions - on the People's dime as the Nation goes broke. Outrageous and immoral. Fire the bastards unless they shape up real quick just as Coolidge did.
How do you feel about the election last night? A triumph of Democracy, eh?
Wrong. That how Blacks see Obama - someone to humiliate and rob Whites and enrich them. Real Presidents serve all the People. I mean what kind of Man could put a bigot like Holder over the Citizens of the United States?
While paper/electrons mean that money is available in unlimited supply, it is wildly irrational to chide gold for being a relic of the past and non-useful, with regards to investing in it.
Just track the price, from $250 in 2001/2002 to $1,600 now. I think gold was recently crowned the best investment of the past decade. It beat the pants off the US stock markets.
Gold sucked for 20 years, since 2001/2002 it's been among the very best investments. Roughly 85% of so-called 'money managers' have done much worse than gold over the same period.
And you had to fork over tons of fees/commissions to earn whatever piddling return they provided you, while holding gold would've cost you peanuts in those terms.
The VAST majority of so-called money managers can't even beat machine-managed stock-market index funds for god's sake; just another way Americans, clueless as they are about most all things financial, are sheep led to the slaughter while the fleecers have a good chuckle.
peace peaceniks
English rule united India. If India had been united to begin with, the Britsh would have never gotten in.
Also they had countless Sikh and Muslim auxilliaries, not just a few thousand British Troops. India is deeply divided, and the British made full use of those divisions.
And Stalin liquidated millions in the Ukraine. Google the Holdomor. And the Allies starved the Germans after both wars. Morgenthau tried to starve Germany to death, but a German American Senator went after him on the floor of the Senate. FDR and Baruch backed off and let him hang out to dry - but they had been supporter before.
The Nazis were divided on the Slavs. Many were against the policy of displacement. They might have won out in th end. We'll never know now. The Slavs were destined to be ruled for generations by aliens - Jews and Georgians.
You just aren't clue-ing in are you.
I clued in about the time my government decided to wage war in Southeast Asian countries to fight "communism" to prevent the "dominoes" from falling and having the USA overrun by communists.
I listened to their argument and said "Fuck that shit. No Vietnamese ever did anything to me" and I refused to go to Vietnam.
If people refuse to join armies, the dictators of the world would be powerless and harmless and would be shown up for the lunatics that they are.
But people like you believe what their government says about "enemies" and people like you believe violence is effective and people like you believe there are times when violence is necessary.
So, the dictators of the world will always have you as cannon fodder. You just are not clue-ing in, are you?
Further to my reply to Asoka:
Hitler and the German Nazis were not South African whites nor the others you mention. You can say all you want that nobody "knows" what will happen as a justification for passivity. But as many others have said the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. The Nazis invaded Poland and immediately set to killing off Polish intellectuals and the Polish political and cultural elite. Hans Frank was the Nazi military governor of Poland. He talked about his intent to starve Poland out of existence. Then the Nazis penned in and set to killing 3 million plus Jews in Poland. In all the Nazis killed 20 to 25 % of Poland's population. And they were stopped by means of armed force. Otherwise the body count would have been worse.
And what of such a luminary as Ghandhi in such a setting as Nazi ocupied Poland or Russia? He would have found himself in short order standing in front of a mass grave awaiting his turn with an executioner. No speculation needed. The Nazi record in these matters is more than ample.
And Joseph Stalin, who made a non aggression pact with Hitler, found out what that deal was worth in June 1941. Exactly nothing.
The British built the railroad in order to shuttle troops across the Subcontinent. Thus their disadvantage in numbers could be ameliorated quickly by reinforcements.
If people refuse to join armies... - Asoka
Yes and if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bus.
Gold sucked for 20 years, since 2001/2002 it's been among the very best investments.
Gold goes up and gold goes down. There is nothing golden about gold. Gold bubbles burst.
If you bought in 2001, you bought under $300 and you have done well. But gold is now over $1,600. Do you think it is going to continue to go up? Are you going to sell when it goes back down? Who will you sell to after TSHTF? Are people who have food going to sell legitimate sustenance for inedible gold?
Ozone,
I think is important to realize that some bloggers are financially profiting when it comes to collapse scenarios. JHK, The Automatic Earth - how many "donations" did they garner this year - and other bloggers butter their bread by selling the doomsday narrative. That in itself is reason enough for me to sprinkle more than a little salt over their opinions. And their time-line predictions, quite frankly, are nothing short of laughable. Do you recall Nicole Foss going out on a limb and stating that 2010 would be an "unmitigated disaster"?
As far as Orlov, if I want a recount of the Soviet Union collapse, I'll get it from someone who was actually a citizen of that country.
Absolutely outstanding piece, Bill Neil. I read the entire piece slowly and carefully. Thank you for posting.
But people like you believe what their government says about "enemies" and people like you believe violence is effective and people like you believe there are times when violence is necessary. - Asoka
And my mother and her sisters found themselves under German occupation and at the wrong end of German rifles. No need for any government propaganda to tell them about enemies. They saw the piles of dead. They knew first hand.
Vlad,
Ya know why E. and I got along?
Cuz I was the first person to say that both parties are a two-headed hydra sharing one body.
This thing is going to become a nightmare.
What I'm against is rampant privatization of all the public sector which is where this movement is going.
Obama was trying to take us down slowly, but the masters are impatient. Romney will do it faster.
Now I hope you don't like Romney--cause he's been buddies with Netanyahu for decades and if you noticed all Romney's international policy advisors have dual citizenship with Israel.
We are moving from Trilateral Commission rule to Neocon rule again. It bounces back and forth. I fuly expect that before the "Long Emergency" of oil depletion had a chance to set in, we will be entering WWIII before.
Anyway you slice it with either one of these Globalist bankster parties we're F'ed!!
If people refuse to join armies... - Asoka
He's five feet two and he's six feet four
He fights with missiles and with spears
He's all of 31 and he's only 17
He's been a soldier for a thousand years
He's a Catholic, a Hindu, an athiest, a Jain,
a Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew
and he knows he shouldn't kill
and he knows he always will
kill you for me my friend and me for you
And he's fighting for Canada,
he's fighting for France,
he's fighting for the USA,
and he's fighting for the Russians
and he's fighting for Japan,
and he thinks we'll put an end to war this way
And he's fighting for Democracy
and fighting for the Reds
He says it's for the peace of all
He's the one who must decide
who's to live and who's to die
and he never sees the writing on the walls
But without him how would Hitler have
condemned him at Dachau
Without him Caesar would have stood alone
He's the one who gives his body
as a weapon to a war
and without him all this killing can't go on
He's the universal soldier and he
really is to blame
His orders come from far away no more
They come from him, and you, and me
and brothers can't you see
this is not the way we put an end to war
-- "The Universal Soldier" as written by Buffy Sainte Marie
Yes, that's very nice. So what.
Rhino, you should read Milton Mayer's book, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE FREE, about the Nazis.
According to you ADULTS stand up and fight.
According to some on CFN the FEMA camps are ready for us to be shuttled into ... and when the NDAA kicks into high gear, martial law is imposed, dissenters with any following are ready to be rounded up and executed or sent to one of those Halliburton "FEMA" camps. The 12,700 armored vehicles and the 450,000,000 rounds of hollow point bullets will be put to use to suppress the masses. What are you doing, Rhino?
What are you doing to stop fascism in the USA?
Do you really believe in violent resistance, or are you just flapping your gums? What are you doing right now? Or are you going to wait for the mass executions? Are you going to wait for the uniformed ones to knock on your door?
Do you really believe in violent resistance against fascism in the USA in the 21st century? Are you walking your talk?
"As far as Orlov, if I want a recount of the Soviet Union collapse, I'll get it from someone who was actually a citizen of that country."
LMFAO. Are you an evil twin of none other than Asoka? No two people could be that fucking ignorant. Neither of you (or should I saw the singular you) have obviously never read or listened to Dmitry Orlov.
The fact is, he grew up in the former USSR and his family left for the USA in a "grain for brain" deal that allowed his family to escape persecution in Russia in 1972. He has no reason to stick up for his former country, and considers what he is doing a civic service to his fellow americans...to warn them that the US is following the same trajectory as the former USSR. He went back to his former homeland before, during and after its collapse to visit family and friends and has invaluable insights that he has graciously taken the time to offer.
He states the USA is not nearly as prepared as the former USSR for our inevitable demise. The USSR had public housing that were logistically located to maximize energy efficiency and minimize entropy with systems of mass transit. Those dreary apartments were not much to look at, he states, but were cheap to heat and your address was stamped on your birth certificate and could not be taken away until death. Nobody was foreclosed upon or evicted, unlike the homeless disaster that is unfolding in the US.
The USSR had a huge black market system in place so people could get many of the things they needed when the centrally planned command and control economy could not provide them. People had already taken up some home gardening before the collapse. Other factors Orlov does not say but I think anyone could agree....americans are spoiled, arrogant, and used to the "good life". Not since the Civil War, unless you count Pearl Harbor, did the US see massive warfare on its soil. The Russians have endured these hardships and I will state were and are a helluva lot more prepared to deal with adversity. Even then, according to Orlov, many people got mugged or killed, many people, especially middle aged men, drank themselves away or committed suicide. America is a country armed to the teeth, with a racial powder keg that will explode with the slightest spark.
Here are some links for you to actually watch so you will never make such foolish remarks about "being a Soviet citizen" when in fact, he was. Ignorance is no excuse for your behavior
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmTBnhOXufg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrz5ucQACo8
I read where Ghandi temporarily united India in resistance. After the Brits left, the country fragmented into India and Pakistan. When and if Ghandi united India, he should have distributed armaments if he wanted to be free of British imperialism. Not a big issue for me, I just don't believe in passive resistance. I say jump back at those who would rob, steal, or exploit you and bite their fuckin throats out. Better to die going down swinging then be a victim, in my humble opinion
Orlov states the USA is not nearly as prepared...
Agreed. Which is why Welles, DeeJones, and I have advocated getting out of the USA while you still can.
Or are you one of the deniers who believes there is no where to run, no where to hide?
If so, you are wrong. There are many better places than the USA.
Thank you. I am beginning to see that some people are not even worth responding to. Here are some links of interviews with Dmitry that prove the people that criticize him either lack the mental capacity to understand him or they don't bother to read or listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrz5ucQACo8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmTBnhOXufg&feature=fvwrel
Do they come into CFN without having read The Long Emergency, the 5 stages of collapse, Reinventing Collapse, Confronting Collapse (Michael Ruppert), or The Party Is Over by Richard Heinberg? I am thinking they have not, and just come here to deny reality, stick up for Obama and try to convert others to their half assed brand of liberalism? If so, they are failing miserably. I used to be a liberal, I am finding they irritate almost as much as the neocons. I did not think that was possible
Vlad, when Obama went up against McCain and Palin, the people chose Obama. Everyone chose Obama including Republicans in eight Republican states. The Hoosiers chose Obama!
People deserve the leadership they elect.
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Jeez, talk about the cult of Dmitry! Your posts are bordering on religious zeal.
Here is another slap of reality for the denialists/technology/Obama/Romney will save us types http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeRTCepmkqQ&feature=relmfu
Ever see the Vagina Monologues? Remember "Coochie Snorcher"?
Do you think Scott Walker will do hard time for his campaign finance malfeasance, embezzlement of veterans funds, bid-rigging, and child enticement?
Maybe it wont go up but rather the dollar will go down? Do you understand the difference? Anyone holding metal will get some of their money back, money that has been stolen from them by decades of quantitative easing. Doesn't everyone profit from such things? Theoretically. But actually those who get the money first do - before the new increment causes more inflation. Hint: that's not the common people.
I'm asking you to try Soak.
Yes your fellow travelers are making death threats this morning. You all were crushed last night. Budget is a four letter word to race hustlers and their clients.
Here is another. Richard Heinberg, for you endless growth denialists. Dmitry, JHK, and Richard Heinberg all basically see eye to eye regarding collapse. Watch and learn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjFQLGVIJak&feature=related
We've been saying that for generations. Lucan was driven to the rage of despair because the Ramtha Channeling Cult had prepared years ago - before him and his Literary friends.
I think the division you state is real and important. Both sides are innundated by Jews, but Jews sometimes disagree. The Trilateralists are Global Warming Scamsters. The Neo Cons the Zionist Warmongers.
As a person, you are more on the Trilateral Side since you think Goverment should do everything for everyone. I would have been more on the Republican Side but since they've been taken over by the Neo Cons, I can't be. The Neo Cons are are almost as Big Goverment as the Liberals.
I'm reading a long but good Neo Conish article about how the Democratic Party is the ruling party in America. It's "America's Ruling Class and the Perils of Revolution" by Angelo Codevilla. Quite good. Hancock should read it since he always wondered why my thought wasn't symmetrical and equally against both Parties. This is why. The Democratic Party triumphed in the Culture War and the "new people" are its clients and supporters. The Republicans can only drool in envy. The Democratic Party is thus the new status quo. And Republicans who come to power often end up sounding like them and voting like them.
If you think that, then you should also know that Obama worship was very, very real and far from just a Republican Construct. They capitalized on it, yes - but it was real and very frightening and despicable.
That you don't see this indicates a split in your psyche. You desperately wanted Obama to be real and you are trying to minimize how great your disappointment was. Well, at least you know now. Hopefully you wont vote for him again.
I have read Orlov but like I said I'll take my info from people who actually lived there pre WW2 thru the collapse and one person in particular whose art pieces - marble sculptures - belonged to the Ministry of Culture.
And BTW, you hardly strike me as an expert on the old Soviet Union or Russia in general beyond your parroting of Orlov. So save the pretense and tone down the bombast.
Hopefully you won't vote for Romney--unless you like Zionism afterall cuz it's no secret that's what you're gonna get.
No such thing as Obama worship--it's a media construct---people just wanted to get outta "W.", Cheney and the Neocons--They wanted to get outta Clintonista land, but at the end of the day, they got a bait and switch--there was no choice between Hillary and Obama--you got the same banksters.
As for me? I knew when Hillary and Obama went to the Bilderberg meeting in spring of 2008, that we were going to lose even if we won.
As I said, When your team wins-You lose.
I'm working and that's the end of subject for me.
No more of your nonsense.
I agree. I applaud the Sikhs in London who have threatened the Muslims over the rape of one of their women. Violence is the only thing Muslims understand.
Whites are too weak and/or persecuted by their own Goverments. So the Muslims pimp out White Girls by the score over there.
There are none so blind as will not see. Obama is a God, half Black (divine) and half human (White). That's what go him elected. The hand of the Brotherhoods has been on him since his earlies days, making the rough smooth before him. He is the fufillment, the incarnation, of decades, no - generations - of social programming starting with movies like "To Sir with Love" and "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner". Admit it - you loved Poitier. And Obama felt utter contempt for his mother when she gasped "Harry Belafonte is the most handsome men in the world". As a White, he didn't think her worthy of Belafonte.
"And MD says "it" will happen by the end of June... but he won't say what "it" is..."
I truly regret this because at the end of June you will be hardened in your denial even more.
"Suppose someone tells you that he just flipped a coin 10 times and all 10 were heads? What is the probability that the next flip will be heads too? If you think 50%, then you are discounting the very high probability that the game is rigged. And this makes you a sucker."
Those fellas that have the wolf by the ears could be said to be "rigging" the game. I am patient.
"That's what democracy is all about: electing your own tyrants."
That's why I prefer a Republic.
"Are people who have food going to sell legitimate sustenance for inedible gold?"
Of course, if they have a surplus! FRNs are not edible either. Well, at least not very nutritous.
"Which is why Welles, DeeJones, and I have advocated getting out of the USA while you still can."
Should I leave by the end of June?
Methinks that you ask too much of poor old Soake.
I don't have a crystal ball but I wouldn't be surprised if gold, silver, etc go far higher than anyone is currently predicting, given how dysfunctional the whole global financial system has become.
Soake doesn't understand the concept of what a bubble is. A bubble is a mania where everyone wants in and the price goes parabolic. Gold isn't even close to that phase.
Michael
Do you have any real gold? By real gold I mean gold coins, not worthless paper gold certificates.
If so, do this experiment:
1) Go to your local grocery store with both gold coins and federal reserve notes in small denominations ($1 to $20 bills).
2) Pick out $20 worth of food (your choice, it doesn't matter what you choose)
3) Go to the cashier and try to pay with gold coins. (have the FRNs handy... you will need them)
4) Report back to CFN which has more value: gold coins or FRNs.
What I understand is that gold is useless. Do you have any real gold: by that I mean gold coins?
If so, please do the experiment I outlined for MD.
Having the experiment replicated in different places will strengthen the results. And you will see for yourself just how useless gold is.
But you don't "truly regret" it enough to say what is supposed to happen in June, do you?
Don't bear false witness.
You are misusing the word "truly."
Someone last week said you were an "intellectual spastic". Now I know what they mean.
I recently sold six ounces of gold for a bit over $10 grand. Bought myself a very nice slightly used Toyota pickup. You say gold is useless/worthless. Yeah, right...
Michael
10000 divided by 6 = 1 666.666
Interesting, but irrelevant.
The experiment is not to buy a used pickup truck.
The experiment is to buy food, if you can, with a gold coin.
I can see you're not too bright. Gold is a fantastic way to store a lot of wealth. You can hold (currently) about $100,000 of gold in one hand.
Silver is great for making smaller transactions such as food, as you suggest. I have bought food at local farmer's markets for a few silver dimes and/or quarters.
You should go to 321gold.com for great articles and information about why owning precious metals is a good idea. Your own lack of understanding of the concept is putting you at a disadvantage.
MH
Silver is great for making smaller transactions ...
Hello? The experiment is about gold, not silver.
Until we do the experiment, we cannot assert that gold has worth.
Go to your Piggly-Wiggly (Safeway, WalMart, Publix, Kroger, Safeway, Albertsons, etc.) and take your gold coins. Try to buy food and see what happens.
You have an idea in your head that gold is wealth. Fine. Feel wealthy.
But I am more practical. More important than being wealthy is being able to eat.
Should I leave by the end of June?
Advisable.
peace peaceniks
Still clueless, eh?
We are waiting for your answer to the question:
What are you doing to stop fascism in the USA?
Be specific, since you believe in violence, and let us all know what you are doing.
Try to buy food and see what happens.
This is specious. Gold coins obviously have two or three types of value, face value and numismatic/gold-content value.
peace peaceniks
"If so, please do the experiment I outlined for MD."
The cashiers are following orders, the store owners still have to pay their bills in FRNs, so of course they want "the coin of the realm". FRNs are becoming worth less and less everyday.
"But you don't "truly regret" it enough to say what is supposed to happen in June, do you?"
Good try, but you know I was saying "I regret setting a date", rather than "I regret this world system meeting its just demise".
Thanks, Welles. This is what I was saying. Gold is specious.
Specious: Misleading in appearance, esp. misleadingly attractive
Someone last week said you were an "intellectual spastic". Now I know what they mean.
Thank you!
Spastic: A brave person.
Intellectual: A person who is devoted to literary or scholarly pursuits.
I do have the courage of my convictions, a breadth of learning, and the ability to communicate.
Although I do not need external affirmation, I do appreciate your kind words.
FRNs are becoming worth less and less everyday.
If anyone "owned" the FRNs, this would constitute theft. But they are simply means of exchange. They are called "currency" because they flow like a current in a river, from one hand to another, in transaction after transaction.
So, I have no concern for their supposed "worth" ... FRNs have a little more worth than gold, since they are acceptable in commonplace financial transactions, but ultimately gold, silver, FRNs, electrons, etc. are all just symbolic. None of them have any INTRINSIC value.
Gold is just metal taken from the earth and has no INTRINSIC value (or nutritional value) at all. We give it value by accepting it symbolically as a medium of exchange.
"Gold is just metal taken from the earth and has no INTRINSIC value (or nutritional value) at all. We give it value by accepting it symbolically as a medium of exchange."
Wrong. As long as we are throwing around definitions:
in·trin·sic /ɪnˈtrɪnsɪk, -zɪk/
adjective
1. belonging to a thing by its very nature: the intrinsic value of a gold ring.
Gold and silver have intrinsic value because of what it takes {expense} to produce them. You can't just print an ounce of gold. The expense of producing it remains with it, because it {the expense} would be required to replace it, if lost. This is not symbolic, it would be a real loss. The expense of replacing a FRN is two cents.
Agreed, I dont know or need to know much about the USSR. I have read that when it collapsed folks were quite calm and as you noted, barter/black market was already many decades old. [was it 90% of the food was grown on 2% of the land?].
Meanwhile here in the USA, life is increasingly chaotic and many people are dependent on the govt for EBT, a check, housing.
Also, quality of life was bad under the reds, but declined once the USSR broke up.
Life expectancy, alcoholism etc.
I have read J rogers 2 books [Investment Biker and Adveture Capitalist] and he writes about traveling all the way across Siberia, the Mafya, etc.
Do you think VK should get a ministers license and go preach?
Perhaps that is Vlads calling!!!!!
This is odd, did anyone see the June 'eyesore' here?
I wanted to review, I just went to look and its gone.
Introducing the new “Goon from the Moon” Award:
That’s right folks, someone has to put the “thought” on this website in perspective, so I’ve introduced the “Goon from the Moon” weekly award to the most pointless, idiotic, venal, paranoid and/or generally incoherent post. Who will be the winner this week?
Vlad is a perennial favorite of course, but this week, relative newcomer “new world” is vying to out do Vlad in his favorite areas of casting dispersions and fomenting hatred. Hard work, but somebody has to do it. Asoka is in the front of the pack, trying to prove gold is “worthless” (?) O.K. at least now we know why he had to retire to Ecuador. “Michigan native” might have a chance if he could make his point in less than 400 words. (some of us have a real life) Ozone, appears to be coming up on the outside with the comment “nitpicking, denialist sub-realists.”…….sub realists??? “anti soak” is working up a sweat not caring what Soros says, but fascinated with “why he says it”. Of course!, its all in the subtext, how stupid of the world not to understand, thankfully we have anti here to clue us in. Beantown Bill isn’t going to get anywhere with posts on his Hamlet-like generalized angst.
It will be a tough decision, unless…..one of you really pulls a corker out of his brainpan. Stay tuned.
"Who will be the winner this week?"
To save the rest of these fine folks from any shame-faced-ness, I will nominate self for my "end of June" remark.
I got notice today that my job is ending in June. I'll be joining my two brothers and sister (two have college degrees) in unemployment or partial unemployment.
Let's see. If gold isn't worth money, then I guess I can't pawn the fillings out of my mouth to eat next month. Not a happy thought.
We're not interested in the buildings, we're only interested in the bricks...
http://everything2.com/title/Manifesto+Of+The+Subrealist+Film+Movement
Without a concept; what a concept!
Not to worry!
I will lend you as much Monopoly money as you can spend! ;o)
That isn't a shame or even a mild censure, it's an honor. (Consider the cornucopian source.)
Take a bow while I genuflect to the omniscient and infallible farmer in the dale. (Just to cover my butt, you understand.)
Dollar uses its reserve currency status to the euro and the yen http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/item_hFyfwvpBW1YYLykSJwTTEL
So JHK, Orlov, Heinberg and Peter Schiff were right after all. Again, watch this video as Greece begins to default and austerity conditions are imposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjFQLGVIJak
Collapse. It's just around the corner. Read the writing on the wall. The joyride was nice while it lasted
Collapse. It's just around the corner. Read the writing on the wall. The joyride was nice while it lasted
Same message I've been reading for seven years on CFN. "Just around the corner" and dozens of other similar metaphors ... uhh, yeah, like when exactly?
Another seven years? Seventy years? Seven hundred years?
Always a social liberal here, but I'm not ideologically blinkered enough to be steamrolled by fools and charlatans. (Fair is fair... but then there are those fuckin' users and takers who lay waste to all they touch.)
We just see what's bearing down on us and acknowledge it. It's been my contention that those who prepare themselves mentally have the edge of not following the lemmings off the cliff. No panic; take the path that no one seems to remember is there.
Why the bellicose denial? You tell me.
Deny loud enough and reality will go away?
Make the blog unnavigable by sheer weight of distractionary/irrelevant crap?
Paid psy-op operatives?
"We make our own reality now" shit-slingers?
I've got no motive to doom-and-gloom it. Life has certainly been pretty easy and enjoyable with the way things have been going (even with very little do-re-mi). What's not to like?
When the lies, scams and violent, extractive shenanigans have overburdened the world's back, things fall down. Here we are; the flapping of chickens coming home to roost for our complacency and unspoken acquiescence.
Yes, life expectancy has plummeted in the former USSR since they dumped their national healthcare system. We're headed on the same path. The dollar has now lost its supremacy as the world's reserve currency to the euro and the yen. Oil and energy prices will explode as a prelude to the US getting locked out of the international oil trade. All we will have to look forward to now is anarchy, collapse, an attempt at martial law, declining standards of living and icreased poverty and austerity and reduced life expectancy, and perhaps some vain and desperate attempt to bomb or invade Iran. As I have said so many times before, after decades of military bullying and taking a blatantly one sided approach in this ongoing Arab/Israel dispute, those oil exporting countries whom we rely on to import 2/3 of our staggering energy needs will be more than eager, even salivating at the chance to kick Uncle Sam hard in the nuts and watch his war machine run out of gas, literally. The american dream now rapidly deteriorating into the american nightmare, and no amount of denial or wishful thinking can stop it. The great day of reckoning is near, and there may well noit be a presidential election in 2012, and even if there is, it will fail to stop the economic asteroid that is about to impact.
It's not doom and gloom, it's reality. Some realize it now, others can deny it for awhile, but events are gaining momentum. Let us see where the denialists are when the collapse advances.
Let us see where the denialists are when the collapse advances
Wake us up when your martial law, exploding petroleum prices etc. materializes.
FYI the elite A-rabs who control 2/3 of the US' oil supply are mostly educated at Ivy League schools & love hookers and blow more than they love Allah.
The religious fervor is to keep the public focussed on extranea while they have a grand old time in lyfe.
It's the way the world turns, the top dogs play, and play with your mind and life. But don't look for them to let things get so apocalyptically out of hand, it's not in the cards, doesn't suit their purposes, and it'd kill all their fun.
The doomer attitude out here is very misplaced.
peace peaceniks
ps going to coal-roast another brazilian organic-fed pig this weekend, plus some huge cow ribs, just really gigantic, remind you of the flintstones.
Exactly! TPTB are not going to let their own game be ruined.
Michigan Native says, "events are gaining momentum" but if you look at REALITY you'll find the speed of the planets is the same, the speed of birdsong is the same, plants are growing at the same speed, etc.
Nature is NOT speeding up and life here continues as it has for thousands of years.
What IS speeding up is our fear-filled minds, the number of predictions of doom, and the number of conspiracy theories that abound.
I qualified up until paranoid and incoherent. Is there any way to protest the judgement criteria? I want the award in the worst way, but I can't create posts that are paranoid or incoherent. My posts are logical, intelligent, and well-formed. Your criteria are just not fair and seem designed to exclude me (see there was an attempt at paranoia).
I'm still waiting for the results of the test after my description of that reddish brown squirrel (see there's an attempt at incoherence).
"TPTB are not going to let their own game be ruined."
You are trying to prove too much. You should have added, "...while it is within their power." They are NOT omnipotent.
"...but I can't create posts that are paranoid or incoherent."
Oh c'mon, you're not really trying.
"They are NOT omnipotent."
It seems they are not even very smart:
"There is no good reason why the 1 percent, with their good educations, their ranks of advisers, and their much-vaunted business acumen, should be so misinformed. The 1 percent in generations past often knew better. They knew that there would be no top of the pyramid if there wasn't a solid base - that their own position was precarious if society itself was unsound. Henry Ford, not remembered as one of history's softies, understood that the best thing he could do for himself and his company was to pay his workers a decent wage, because he wanted them to work hard and he wanted them to be able to buy his cars. Franklin D. Roosevelt, a purebred patrician, understood that the only way to save an essentially capitalist America was not only to spread the wealth, through taxation and social programs, but to put restraints on capitalism itself, through regulation. Roosevelt and the economist John Maynard Keynes, while reviled by the capitalists, succeeded in saving capitalism from the capitalists. Richard Nixon, known to this day as a manipulative cynic, concluded that social peace and economic stability could best be secured by investment - and invest he did, heavily, in Medicare, Head Start, Social Security, and efforts to clean up the environment. Nixon even floated the idea of a guaranteed annual income."
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/246406-The-1-Percent-s-Problem
You had many chances to take the red pill. By all means, stay in denial and perpetual ignorance by taking the blue pill. If ignorance were bliss, some of you would feel like you just hit the megamillions. Good luck walking or riding your bike before the tires succumb to dry rot to the nearest disaster relief shelter, should your big and ever so benevolent government prove to be so efficient to set up food, shelter, transporation, and security on a national basis almost overnight.
After hurricane Katrina, they proved they couldn't run a lemonade stand, so drown with all the feel good/deny reality at all costs rats when the ship plunges. Never claim you were not offered the red pill...by Jimmy Carter, Hubbert, Colin Campbell, Michael Ruppert, James Howard Kunstler, Dmitry Orlov, Richard Heinberg, and even endless growth types like Peter Schiff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n3g5lUgkWk
It's still not too late to take the red pill
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"“Goon from the Moon” weekly award to the most pointless, idiotic, venal, paranoid and/or generally incoherent post." (or postER?)
-dale-
I like it, dale.
First up for the award are the posters who come to this blog, week after week, to argue against its basic premises, or simply to argue. Asoka.wins, hands down, here!
If JHK were a published and respected author on, say, evolutionary biology, what would be the effect if he gave a speech or published a week's work - and one person in the crowd always began to dominate the discussion with innumerable posts about the infallible Truth of Creationism?
Well, that's what asoka does to JHK's readers - he is the eternal, and verbally flatulent, Pollyanna - week after week.
Why do you do this, asoka.?
What is wrong with you?
Are most in USA 'frogs in a pot of hot water'?
For those who are past 35 AND PAYING ATTENTION,
its apparent quality of life has been collapsing here for some time,and our beleaguered,[oops I ll write beloved]
country has increased 50%population wise in 42 years.
BHO is doing what he can to bring in more people, espcially anti-americans.
As for the crisis in Europe, Soros is concerned!!!
Im concerned hes concerned.
heres why Dale:
Thailand currency crash 1997
www.asiatradingonline.com/thaicrash.htm
Bank Negara, Malaysia's central bank, often dabbled in currency speculation as Mahathir blamed Soros ...
Maybe he can make a billion wrecking another currency.
No Asoka is right: you cannot eat gold. You will break your teeth!
Why do you do this, asoka.? What is wrong with you?
Dale, are you reading this? I'm going to answer P2C's question now.
P2C, I do it because I am paranoid and incoherent and my posts are pointless, and I am idiotic, and venal ... honest! Really! Do I win now?
http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer
Link above goes to an interactive map that gives a graphical overview as well as census data for EVERY single census district in the US. Fascinating.
Here's my question - to Ozone, BTB, or several others who argue that "race" in America is best ignored, and that it will vanish as an issue in the near future.
How do you make this argument, when looking at the way housing data shows that US society has segregated and resegregated?
How do you make this argument in light of the coming debacle that will be the likely result of a Zimmerman "not guilty" verdict?
And - this being a peak resources blog, and all - what will happen if the future is not as cornucopian or Utopian - as our CFN Pollyannas are want to suggest it might be.
MNN news nutwork said, "Collapse. It's just around the corner. Read the writing on the wall. The joyride was nice while it lasted"
Really? Make a solid DOW prediction. And then short your selection of stocks... if you really put your money where your mouth is, that is.
asoka(dot) said "Go to your Piggly-Wiggly (Safeway, WalMart, Publix, Kroger, Safeway, Albertsons, etc.) and take your gold coins. Try to buy food and see what happens."
Dude behind you follows you to your car and whacks you.
Last week the following happened to me: I bought a cup of coffee (1.62) paid 2 FRN's. In change I received 0.28 of nominal FR coins and 1 1954 .90 silver dime, which was worth about 2.10 in pure silver.
If the world is rational I should be able to go back tomorrow and buy another bup of coffee with the dime, plus change.
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Dude brings me six ounces of gold and says he wants to buy my used Toyota pickup I would laugh at him.
If I had six ounces of gold, I would spit on it to show my contempt and then fling it as far as I could into the nearest deep water lake to get it away from me.
(dale, that sounds paranoid and incoherent, right? I want that award!)
The AI guy is making a run for it. AI and Chinese spammers should be disqualified from the prize, doncha think, dale?
1 1954 .90 silver dime, which was worth about 2.10 in pure silver.
A 1954 silver dime is worth $1,940 dollars, if my neighbor is willing to pay that for it. Actually it has no intrinsic value, but it is worth whatever you can get for it on the open market.
And if I convince my neighbor it is worth $1,940 dollars and he pays that for it, then it is indeed worth $1,940 dollars.
In other words, it has no intrinsic value. The only worth precious metals have is what the market will bear, what idiots are willing to pay for it because they are deluded into thinking it has value it doesn't have.
If the world is rational ...
Bawahaahaahaaha!
World? Rational? Where did you get that idea?
In any event you are talking about an economic marketplace, not the "world" ...
People get in lots of trouble expecting rationality where it doesn't exist.
You think the average CFN resident makes logical, rational, self-interested decisions that weigh costs against benefits and maximize value and profit to himself/herself? You think they are intelligent, analytic, selfish creatures who have perfect self-regulation in pursuit of their future goals and are unswayed by bodily states and feelings? You in for a big fall, BustinJ!
The "world" is full of irrational actors: casino gamblers, for instance, are willing to keep betting even while expecting to lose. People say they want to save for retirement, eat better, start exercising, quit smoking -- and they mean it -- but they do no such things. Victims who feel they’ve been treated poorly exact their revenge, though doing so hurts their own interests.
And you think your 1954 dime should be worth more than $.10 in a grocery store ... in a rational world! Bwahhahhahhahaaaa!
Actually, gold, silver and platinum do have intrinsic value as industrial metals as they are used in many industrial, medical and scientific processes. We should perhaps define "intrinsic value" more specifically, for example intrinsic value as money.
Beantown the word intrinsic means "belonging naturally; essential". Naturally means in its state of nature before Messianicdruid has mined it and shaped it and created value added status.
Gold, silver, and platinum under tons of earth, in their natural state have essentially zero value.
Once extracted and processed they have an "extrinsic" (post-production) value, assuming people can be convinced of it and are willing to pay for it. If you can't convince anyone, if no one is willing to pay anything, then your gold, silver, platinum continues to have zero value no matter how shiny you have made them appear.
I'm an agnostic concerning societal collapse. I think our society will change greatly, for change is inevitable, but to destroy itself? No.
However, like any good agnostic, I prefer to play it safe - in this case by preparing for the worst.
I'll accept your description of extrinsic to be used for precious metals. Since I tend to think scientifically, I'll use a physics analogy: the difference between potential energy and kinetic energy.
"The only worth precious metals have is what the market will bear, what idiots are willing to pay for it because they are deluded into thinking it has value it doesn't have."
Try to replace it for $2.10. [ won't happen!! ] The cost of replacement indicates value, whether or not you are an idiot.
btw: for two of them, I'll give you 5 bucks all day long...
What gets me about CFN is that people always assume change is for the worst. Life is change. Society will change. And it often changes for the better.
All the "evils" that people on CFN like to blame, like the Fed, the income tax, big government, etc. did not exist 100 years ago.
Yet, if you research the quality of life in the USA 100 years ago, you will find people were concerned about the escalation of immigration and poverty, labor and monopoly battles, work safety and child labor problems.
Then there was World War I -- the first "war to end all wars"
Life was not a bed of roses 100 years ago. The changes we have seen in the last 100 years have extended our life expectancy and have made life much more comfortable. That is just a fact: life changed for the better. Change is often good.
But CFN ignores that in favor of its conspiracy theories about the Fed, the UN, the World Bank, etc. even though conditions were bad when many of those agencies and institutions didn't exist 100 years ago and couldn't be blamed.
And then CFN continues with the same lame complaints about about banks, Jews, immigration, negroes, etc. ... the usual scapegoats that people were also blaming 100 years ago.
"Naturally means in its state of nature before messianicdruid has mined it and shaped it and created value added status."
Wrong again. There are pieces of gold laying in a stream somewhere, right now, that merely need to be picked up and recognized for what it is {intrinsic}. In this case the finder pockets the difference between his costs of production [minimal] and a mining company's cost of production [value added]. It has intrinsic value because of what it is, not where it is or how it is shaped {which may be added later}.
And one more thing...
Over a hundred years ago, and earlier, when things were so bad economically (read about the history of bank runs) ... THAT WAS WHEN WE WERE ON THE GOLD STANDARD that the gold worshipers speak of with so much reverence and it didn't make a goddamn bit of difference.
Monopolies continued in spite of the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890. Social problems flourished and the middle classes became more and more unhappy, all under the precious gold standard (pun intended).
Unsafe working conditions (see the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in which 145 female workers were killed), exploitation of children hired to work in factories, mills, and mines for long hours in unsafe and unhealthy conditions, all that happened under the precious gold standard.
A hundred years ago a commission found that up to 20% of the children living in cities were undernourished, education took second place to hunger and while children worked, only one-third enrolled in elementary school and less than 10% graduated from high school, all under the precious gold standard.
Women were also striving for equality. The first suffrage parade was held in 1910 ...
Well, you get the point. Society has changed for the better in the last hundred years and it had nothing to do with gold.
My cunt said "I recently sold six ounces of gold for a bit over $10 grand. Bought myself a very nice slightly used Toyota pickup."
What is the draw of the Toyota pickup? Someone I know traded $1500 dollars worth of silver coin for an old 20R Toyota PU. Sold it a year later, smoking and misfiring, for $400. The silver doubled in value during that time.
Cars seem like the worst possible investment. Then again to some degree it depends on how they are used. To haul gold from the mine to the smelter?
"Democracy usually doesn't count on a flood of out of state, secret and corporate special interest money to achieve its goals. Walker had a massive $31 million war chest to just $4 million on the unions side."
Another says:
"Democracy died" because an election did not follow the money. The unions scrounged money from all over the United States and spent SEVEN TIMES what Walker did. Still lost. Wonder if they can figger out why?"
If it was "secret" how did you find out about it?
There are pieces of gold laying in a stream somewhere, right now, that merely need to be picked up and recognized for what it is {intrinsic}.
As long as those pieces of gold are lying in that stream, they are intrinsically worthless.
You don't seem to get the point that gold has no intrinsic value.
Humans have this idea in their minds that gold is worth something. That idea in human minds is what gives gold its supposed value. Intrinsically, lying in the stream, gold has zero value.
"Society has changed for the better in the last hundred years and it had nothing to do with gold."
So why bring it up? {another strawman?} I'm not stumping for {much less "worshipping"} a "gold standard". I'm simply pointing out that it has intrinsic value, which you deny.
Periods of financial panic in USA history mostly happened when we were on the gold standard:
The panic of 1792
The panic of 1819
The panic of 1825
The panic of 1837
The panic of 1847
The panic of 1857
The panic of 1866
The panic of 1873
The panic of 1884
The panic of 1890
The panic of 1893
The panic of 1907
The gold bulls are also dead wrong on hyperinflation (or even abnormally high price inflation) and that's where they are going to run into big trouble when the gold bubble bursts. Absent the high inflation they're expecting, sooner or later gold will fall.
OK, MD, suppose you bought gold early at $300/oz. and someone reading you on CFN today finds a "bargain" and is buying gold today at $1350. You bought at $300 and earn an additional fat 33.3% return for every $100 that gold rises.
The guy buying today will only earns a measly 7.4% return for every $100 gold rises beyond the $1350. For him to just equal your earnings gold will have to climb to over $5400.
The math is simply lousy when you join the party late, even if gold's price does move your way. I expect gold is going to go back down. Nothing goes up forever. The guy buying today could lose money on his gold investment. Please don't mislead people about gold.
I think it's a matter of perspective. CFNers, like most people are very wrapped up in their own lives and what is happening around them.
To truly see, one must greatly expand their mind's eye through space and time and become more aware of the big picture. In my experience, people's horizons are way too small. To the extent one opens themselves to the larger world, one gets a more accurate view of reality and the future.
So why bring it up? {another strawman?}
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I bring it up because fiat money is despised on CFN and some people seem to value gold and think things would be better if we were back on the gold standard. I am destroying that notion.
And not only that. Gasoline cost less in 2000 on a constant-dollar basis than it did in 1950.
In 1950 the average U.S. retail price per gallon of gasoline was 26.8 cents. By 2000, it had risen $1.51 a gallon, an increase of 463%. However, adjusted for inflation, the price of gasoline in 1950 was the equivalent of $1.83 a gallon, and in 2001, $1.24. Thus in real terms, the price of gasoline dropped 32% per gallon between 1950 and 2000. (SOURCE: Congressional Research Service)
The reduction in the cost of energy fueled the growth in GDP, personal income, productivity and longevity we have enjoyed since. Things have gotten better in the last 60 years.
I agree with Beantown that alternatives will be embraced during our LE and the transportation fleets will never become idle.
The EPA is using drones to spy on ranchers and farmers in the west (IBD, 6/7/12). Can those things be brought down with an ordinary hunting rifle, or do they fly too high? Does anybody know? Not that I would advocate such a thing. Just curious.
--WSP7
Hi honey,
Although we haven't spoken since I moved out, a correction is in order here.
CORRECTION: SPASTIC means "of, pertaining to, or characterized by spasms."
Where do you get that spastic means a brave person?
Are you stupid, or mentally ill? Actually I already know the answer...BOTH!
Intellectual spastic describes you perfectly.
Mrs. Soake
P.S. I got the gold mine, you got the shaft!
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The math is simply lousy when you join the party late, even if gold's price does move your way. I expect gold is going to go back down. Nothing goes up forever. The guy buying today could lose money on his gold investment. Please don't mislead people about gold.
This is very poor rationale, and fails to take into account any reasons for gold's spectacular rise over the past decade, while 'investors' in the US stock market have seen their holdings decimated in real terms.
Gold will resuck one day. For the past decade it's beaten the pants off most everything.
Calling 7.4% 'measley' when savings accounts earn you less than 1% is ridiculous.
The phrases 'could lose money' and 'nothing goes up forever' have no investment weight whatsoever.
peace peaceniks
Good question.
You'd need something pretty sophisticated to bring down this behemoth. (If you couldn't simply get to the operator with a .22 pistol, loaded up with shorts. Probably the most cost-effective and quietest route.)
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/huge-hydrogen-powered-spy-drone-takes-test-flight/story?id=16502318#.T9Cgu5iuWQk
This blimp runs on liquid hydrogen and is designed to operate at 65,000 ft. Expensive bit of kit.
Can't seem to find much info on small surveillance drones, but the ones hand-carried by the military look like they'd be quite vulnerable to small arms fire. (Good skeet-shooters might be in demand. ;o)
Just keep in mind that the last census nailed down the GPS coordinates of every home in the home of the brave. What was that all about? To make mail delivery more efficient? Yeah, that's it!
FAA Reauthorization Act (Washington Times, Feb 7)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/7/coming-to-a-sky-near-you/
"According to some estimates, the commercial drone market in the United States could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars once the FAA clears their use.
The agency projects that 30,000 drones could be in the nation’s skies by 2020."
There's money in it, is there? Who woulda thunk it. How shocking.
Eight years, eh? Will the great unwashed bear some watching by then? "Blade Runner" without all the cool tech? Place yer bets; the race is on!
Kk-hhoool, dude. I want one! (More types at page bottom.)
http://hacknmod.com/hack/aerial-surveillance-copter-launched-from-a-mailbox/
Mailbox baseball, anyone?
Zoner, you got no more right to complain than the average ...
Uh, *WHAT*?
Oh, yeah, *on-topic*. Something you fucking trolls don't ever want to do. SO BE IT.
Whaddup, *SYRIA*?!? Hahahaha, let's take that false flag/CIA/MOSSAD horseshit and bury it.
Someone mentioned off-coast CALI oil fields, but talked about the harvests in gallons, while stating *barrels*... (SHH!!!)
At least *ASS* *SOKER* stays off-topic, with arguments of no merit (GRATZ!).
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What, more Hollywood fundraisers this week? How many can he possibly have? Is there any swag left in that sinkhole to suck out? Well, don't worry, operations moving east to Sara Jessica Parkers digs in Manhattan next week. Its going to be big! What is it with this guy and show biz scumbags? Is he running for President of the Film Actors Guild?
--WSP7
Wow ... just scrolling down and once the week gains momentum, there's get-a-life Asoka commanding about 60% of the total ebb and flow of conjecture and rebuttal. Early in the week, the sane voices weigh in and then disappear, as usual. When a disingenuous, dissembling bloviator like this dominates the airwaves, it's ta-ta time. I'm not even diving in this week.
Michigan Native is about the only person who does not gild the lily as regards the shitstorm about to hit the United States. There are already "symptoms". Why haven't gasoline prices fallen commensurately with oil which has fallen from 110 to 85?? Here in CA, gas has only declined from about $4.50 to $4.29.
China is engaging in MASSIVE direct investment in Europe to the tune of $200B annually and they're forming trade pacts with their ancient enemy Japan. Everyone thinks that America will be able to watch the systemic collapse of Europe from the sidelines while Tim Geithner lectures other countries on how to save bankers at the expense of the commonweal.
This year's US budget deficit is going to be $1.2T with "hopes" that it'll come down to "only" $800B by the end of Obama 2. If you look at debt as a percentage of GDP, we ARE Spain. Only, unlike Spain, a mounting brigade of countries have had about enough of our stupefied pretense.
The stock market has become TOTALLY detached from day-to-day economic reality in the USA. Naturally, since the "stimuli" are not reaching the job market, the average person's wages, or even productive enterprises, they go to the only game in town ... equities ... which, to quote John Hussman, have less intrinsic value than all but 0.5% of market conditions dating back to 1926.
Anyone playing in this game will deserve the utter smacking they will get because it's a game of musical chairs with 10 participants and 3 chairs. And those three chairs belong to Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, and Zuck the Schmuck who doesn't give a shit what Faceplant falls to.
E.
WSP - Can they *ever* be spotted?!...
Your discourse is nothing but *tangential*/./
Watch out for micro-meteorites...
Whaddup, *SYRIA*?!? Hahahaha, let's take that false flag/CIA/MOSSAD horseshit and bury it.
Ix,
No, no, no; it was a perfectly logical massacre of civilians by order of Assad.
It goes like this:
Militia (and artillery) of Assad massacre civilians; receive international condemnation and threats of NATO intervention.
Couple weeks go by with no true consensus on "what to do".
Assad initiates another civilian massacre to calm things down further and reduce danger of invasion and depose-ment/hangin'.
See how logical?
Is the 'Murkin pub-lick on the gullible and uncaring side? Why noooooo; they're engaged as engaged can be! (Wide awake, sharp and refreshed from their nap as well.)
but I can't create posts that are paranoid or incoherent. My posts are logical, intelligent, and well-formed.
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How would the incoherent recognize coherence? You've got flies in your eyes that's probably why you can't see them. (points for recognizing the reference)
"China is engaging in MASSIVE direct investment in Europe to the tune of $200B annually and they're forming trade pacts with their ancient enemy Japan. Everyone thinks that America will be able to watch the systemic collapse of Europe from the sidelines while Tim Geithner lectures other countries on how to save bankers at the expense of the commonweal." -E.
This, as the Treasury writes itself a small check for a piddling $100 billion every month. I know, huh? Pretty soon we're talkin' real money.
Then further assurance of a solid future:
(Under the media blanket of a little yellow activist wanting to escape into the benevolent arms of the FUSA, l'il Timmy and Big Hill arrange some meets with the Red Menace PTB.)
"...it turns out that China can now monetize US debt directly. That’s right, the ability to print US currency is now distributed between the US and China. There is a special private line between Beijing and the US Treasury, and China can buy US Treasuries without going through any market mechanisms or making the price public. Secondly, China can now directly buy US banks. Back in the good old days attempts by foreign powers to use US Treasuries to buy equity in enterprises in the US was considered as akin to an act of war; nowadays—not so much. Basically, Hillary and Timmy went to China and said: “Take our financial system, please!” What they got is the financial equivalent of a subcutaneous morphine pump: something they give to terminal cancer patients, for continuous pain control. But what if it runs dry before the patient expires? That would be painful, wouldn’t it?" -D.O.
Ain't we got fun?
Sorry to hear about your job loss Vlad, that can be tough for anyone over 50 these days. Mostly I regret that you will have even more time to post on the internet.
Was the job loss part of the international jewish conspiracy, or are they just going to refill your job with affirmative action?
Thanks for that E.
One has to wonder daily why China would go along with the self-destructing neoliberal system, esp. a burgeoning economy that could actually bring up a powerful middle class---all in due time, my friends.
The over-arching fulfillment of the globalist system is to turn this country into a colony trade-zone with flattened wages with a giant "For Sale" sign for anyone whose got the real money.
LB
Your writing style more and more resembles JHK.
Maybe you can make some money hawking doom, theres plenty of it to go round.
I think the job loss post was from KRAMPS, not our beloved crank, Mr Krantz.
I've been listening to nutcase discourse about the "fascist" USA for the better part of 50 years. Boring, stupid, delusional. And more than the usual simplistic stupidness.
I heard it a lot in my university years. Highly fashionable on campus. Still is apparently. The young folk in our clan are in universities in North America, Europe and Israel. They tell me this garbage talk is still common.
Which indicates that there were and still are university faculties full of fools. Seriously detached from reality. It appears that the more "out there" the accusation, the more applause it garners.
Also points to the steady corrosion in the quality of public discourse. A lot of people take this idiocy seriously. You're not adding to the total of human wisdom and knowledge with this shit, you're subtracting from it.
To compare dinks like Dubya and Obama and Biden to monsters like Hitler and Himmler and Frank scales the Everests of absurdity. So does comparing the USA to Nazi Germany.
You assume I'm American. I'll point out the obvious again: there's a great many people outside the USA that are fluent and literate in English and could therefore be mistaken at least over the internet for American. It's called the Anglosphere, a worldwide linguistic community.
I'll point out the obvious on another point. There a historical and cultural construct out there called Western Civilization. Many, many people that have a commonality of belief and values that aren't all that different from Americans, the United States after being a part of this civilization. And so they sound, from the things they say, like Americans.
So I'll say this to you. You're American, you think the USA is fascist, you think there's a problem with FEMA camps so why don't YOU go fucking fix it? Moron.
You still have a funcioning democratic system. No seriously. You do. Debased but still working. So pull your head out of your ass. If you think there's a problem within your borders then do something about it. You, as an American, are responsible for what happens there.
As for me I'm not in the market for cretinous horseshit.
As I said before, you are a consumate scumbag. No one else here comes close. And admit it, many people have told you this over the years. It's simply the case. And you don't really want to change: you enjoy it too much.
As for me I'm not in the market for cretinous horseshit.
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That is obvious ...
You are reading and responding to my posts which are erudite.
^erudite horseshit^
Zuck don't give a fuck because even if his little electronic toy company faceplants, he's already cashed out huge wads. At least from what I've heard. Even if he hasn't cashed out, what could possibly happen? The company goes off a cliff and he goes from being a billionaire to having to scrape by on a measly couple hundred million. Or even a few tens of millions. Or even a few million. More than most people have to live on.
And push comes to shove his little China doll wife is a Harvard trained MD. I'm sure she's busy beating off megabuck offers with a stick. Can you imagine, sometime years from now an impoverished and broken Zuck suing his exasperated and soon to be ex wife for spousal support. Ha. Won't happen. I can't see a scenario where Zuck isn't swimming in money.
As far as this broken down mess of a financial system goes, this Euro idea of having Germans sharing a currency with Italians was howlingly stupid. Something that the passage of time won't make less stupid. The ticking clock just compounds the damage.
Time for Germany to refloat the mighty DMark and bail on this disaster. Whoever floats floats and whoever doesn't doesn't. That in my own estimation is what this thing has come to.
They talk about a Grexit. Nope. IMO it's more likely that Angela says screw this and orders the Bundesbank to crank up the printing presses.
This calamity was only something that tall forehead expensively miseducated graduates of institutes of absurdity could have cooked up. They should hang their heads in shame for the chaos they've created. But they won't. I know the type. Arrogant beyond words. They'll rationalize and rationalize and blame everyone but themselves. Everyone else was wrong, they didn't stick to the script.
This is why WW2 was fought - to make the world over for these: http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=11086
From another angle, do you think they could have created America? Do you think they will maintain it?
And which is the evil empire again? Not even the Old Soviet Union arrested people for wearing crosses or praying - as sometimes happens in the "Free World".
One constant refrain of pols: That which unites us is greater than that which separates us. A total lie. The views and values - and the lifestyles and laws which come from them are incommensurate. One side will win. The current elite want to rule tan colored children. We want to be free men who rule ourselves. You have to choose, Cash. As it stands, you have a foot in both camps and the gap is widening. You're gonna get a rupture!
Real nice, huh? This is what or ruling class is like: taking delight in our ruin. Now Dale might not be all the way in, but he sure has the right attitude.
Btw, who you callin' a crank cracker?
No, realistically the seeds for what we call America were planted by a group of people from a certain set of circumstances, with certain beliefs and ideas in a particlar time in history. And it wasn't all created at once. It could all have gone in a different direction ie it could have come to resemble South America.
Could it have been replicated by other people from other cultures and from other times and places? Common sense says no.
Do I think "they" will maintain it. "They" are a mall minority.
More to the point, do you think "we" will maintain it? No. The inheritors never do. Nothing lasts forever. The Roman Empire lasted in one guise or another from the 5th Century BC to the 15 Century AD. But it came to an end. The Roman Army had a 2,000 year continual history. No more.
What of the Roman Catholic Church? It too has had 2,000 years. Roman Catholic priests still dress like Roman officials from many centuries ago. Pontifex maximus means chief bridge maker, the title for a Roman official. In western Europe it looks doomed. Maybe to be replaced by Islam. But the Roman Catholic Church is still growing in other parts of the world.
Times change. Maybe in a future time the Vatican will be inhabited by an Imam, the great cultural works of the renaissance demolished for not being in keeping with Islamic belief. But maybe the Pontiff will relocate and the center of the Church will be in a different city, maybe in South America, maybe in the southern USA or maybe someplace in Africa.
Or maybe not. Maybe the Roman Catholic Church will go the way of other faiths like Zoroastrianism. Overwhelmed and outnumbered.
Maybe the USA will go the same way. Liberals have spent the last 50 years excusing bad behavior like the garbage on that video. So maybe they're the ones planting the seeds for the demise of a culture based on the idea of self restraint, self disciplne. Or maybe it's the other side of the political spectrum with their own set of absurdist ideas that sets the stage for the ruin of the US.
I've read that the Etruscans had a certain set of religious beliefs part of which stated that their own civilization would come to an end. So completely did their language and culture disappear that you wonder if it was partly this belief in their own demise that did them in.
So I hate to spread the idea of doom. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. The societies that survive are the ones that believe in themselves.
Is Barack on the down low? He said he "gets down farther than Michelle" when doin push ups - just like Ellen.
"I bring it up because fiat money is despised on CFN and some people seem to value gold and think things would be better if we were back on the gold standard."
If a tree falls in the woods and there is no one to hear it, does it make a sound?
If a nugget of gold lays in a stream and there is no one to find it, is it still heavy?
Forget its use as money. It is heavy because of its nature, not because someone picks it up and recognizes that it is heavy. Heavy is an intrinsic value. If you have use for something heavy, for its size, gold serves because of this characteristic.
Don't go off on a tangent about a "gold standard" until you understand why it can be used as a standard.
Thank you - a thoughtful response. I tried to shock you with Black violence but you had no problem with it. But this got you.
The Italian resistance once hid documents from Mussolini's thugs under a lady's comforter. The good boys searched the room but didn't go near the Lady on her bed. With the Germans it would have been a different story, let me tell you.
I don't mock really. The Germans have their own sentimentalities. And in such things Civilization is maintained.
Yes Life will go on. Your post helped me see a bit of Light in spite of the overwhelming tragedy. Even American Whites might be welcome in parts of South America - many have already done so. And yes, the Church is growing as well as dying.
"Thus in real terms, the price of gasoline dropped 32% per gallon between 1950 and 2000. (SOURCE: Congressional Research Service)"
I remember paying 19 cents for a gallon of gas in the middle sixties. So round it up to two silver dimes {1964}. If you had kept those two silver dimes, which are selling on ebay for:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=1964+silver+dime&_sacat=0
you could purchase at least a gallon and a half of gas. It is the value of the FRN that has changed.
You have to choose, Cash.
Vlad, are you saying Rhino is Cash?
All this time the coward has been hiding under the name Rhino? And he claims he is an ADULT!
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Ummm,…….implicit in the meme of the self proclaimed Left is this: the American citizenry has lost entitlement to sovereignty (right of independent self determination through representative democracy) because its history isn’t pure – without blemish – of injustice to minorities. But most particularly, the American citizenry is too white and too European of culture to be allowed exclusive right to guide its own national destiny -- it must therefore submit to uncontrolled immigration until it attains some unspecified “politically correct” ratio of ethnicities and races, religious diversity, etc., etc., etc.,……
Where on the Left is mention that the undercutting of wages (loss of middle class standards) and diminishment of union power in this nation is due to not just outsourcing but to illegal immigration as well? Or, for that matter, how a so much of the residential building and remodel industry has become a shadow industry of illegal alien workforce that pays no taxes to pay for societal infrastructure that their presence in this nation overburdens.
...question is- and hey, prog ya moight loik thisun: "if assoaka goes alone into the same forest, and says something, is he still Impeding The Conversation...?!"
In other words, he has defeated you soundly. Just admit defeat - a wonderful spiritual exercise!
LOL!
You are such a nice person, CFT.
It's always good to read what you add to the conversations, CFT. Whether your comments are about China, gold, Iran, compost, adobe, pacifism, black swans, vasectomies, gun control, solar energy, immigration, EROEI, New Urbanism, you always enrich the conversation with your thoughtful contributions. It's good that the evil Asoka has been unable to impede you.
Forget its use as money.
Exactly my point.
Yes. We might have been able to keep wonderful pension for public workers, but not feed and care for a hundred million minorities - and millions more abroad - and endless foreign aid - and conduct several wars at the same time. It had to give way. How could it not?
Can those things be brought down with an ordinary hunting rifle...
Why would you use a hunting rifle? Of course, I am not advocating anything violent on CFN, but WSP7, why wouldn't you (well, not you, but someone who believed in violence) just use MANPADS?
You do have MANPADS, right? No home is truly safe from air attack without one. Some people recommend the Stinger (FIM-92). Try to get one of the more recent versions equipped with a cooled two-color, infrared-ultraviolet detector that discriminates between flares and the target.
Stingers are able to effectively engage targets head-on, from behind and from the side. The missile's maximum range is 4800 meters, which is comparable to the Russian Igla.
If those nasty drones are flying low, the Stinger has a much shorter minimum range (200 meters versus the Igla's 800 meter minimum). It is one of the fastest MANPADS missiles, traveling at Mach 2.2.
You may still have to work on getting the NRA (you are a member of NRA, correct?) behind a MANPADS campaign to guarantee our 2nd amendment rights to protect ourselves and our home from drones, as is our constitutional right.
Oh, and while you're at it, you can pick up a nice stinger missile carrying case.
[sarcasm off]
Of course, in reality I am not advocating anyone to engage in destruction of government property. But we are not in reality here. We are in CFN fantasy land.
"Ever wonder what it might be like to live in a world without consequences?"
Just watch any number of sickeningly popular post-apocalyptic movies and TV series. We have become a people in love with the End Times.
It's as if we are preparing for it now, before the lights go out. It makes me ill that we prefer that to the hard work of keeping what JHK calls "the project of civilization" going.
No, he has danced around saying not everyone is American, not everyone speaks English, etc. instead of manning up to who he really is. He disgusts me with his subterfuge, and even so he was unable to effectively counter my arguments, while making me fight world war II all over again. I trusted he was an honest person, though an admitted mass murderer of children. Now the truth is out. He is worse.
Project of civilization? You've got to be kidding?
How many people did white civilized Germans and white Russians kill in the 20th century? 10 million?
How many heads did the civilized British crack open when faced with nonviolent resistance?
Gandhi's quote is still the best, when asked by a reporter what he thought of Western civilization:
“What do I think of Western civilisation? I think it would be a very good idea.”
You single out "the left" for illegal immigration when illegal immigration absolutely exploded during the George W Bush era. In fact, especially for the right, illegal immigration is an economic wedge to drive down the cost of labor. Case in point: you don't really believe Ronald Reagan was acting on behalf of "The Left" as you assert - "the American citizenry has lost entitlement to sovereignty (right of independent self determination through representative democracy) because its history isn’t pure – without blemish – of injustice to minorities" - when he signed into law legal status for millions of illegal immigrants back in the 80s?
Now I will agree that some on the left smell an electoral coup via illegal immigration but you're overall assertion for the cause of illegal immigration is ridiculous at best.
Sigh. I'm not thrilled when I agree with you, but right is right. I don't buy the 100 million minorities, but I agree with the principle. We can't give out endless entitlements while waging endless war, and we can't continue giving away our money to the banksters who are stealing from us. I don't know how much we pay out annually in foreign aid, but it is dwarfed by the $trillion the last round of wars has cost us and the $800 billion from TARP. All this could end very simply by a constitutional amendment mandating a balanced budget.
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Did you mean to say "the WHITE American citizenry"?
Because "the American citizenry" still has sovereignty, still has self-determination.
The face of the American citizenry is changing and that is what threatens you.
But you got it right about your injustice (it's not just historical, it's ongoing) to minorities.
And you are going to pay for it, as is only fair. I'm glad you are beginning to see the light, along with George W., McCain, Reagan, and all the others who have helped allow more and more immigrants into America. That is what America is: a land of immigrants.
We will never stop immigration, LEGAL or ILLEGAL. In fact, many Republicans favor the Dream Act as a way of guaranteeing national security and a steady supply of laborers.
So the left and the right are down with immigrants getting rights. It's the American Way.
...well, i did recently read that china is at least considering trading gold for oil to iran; i personally feel that could make compost of the dollar as international reserve funds...i m sure this could somehow be linked to an investment bubble in adobe- related materials...i m sure in the aftermath, pacifism will lead to black swans for many- at least to themselves...many of the survivors will be pointless, having had vasectomies in self-rightous spasms; and will have no gun control, which anybody knows is hitting the bullseye at fifty paces 4 out of 5 times...i have previously discussed my views re solar energy and immigration- in fact i m still waiting for a reply to two of my early questions to you...you inadvertantly helped make the popular chirrun's song; and i suppose i could summon, at great cost to my sense of architecture and propriety, the barest necessary energy required to give the smallest of fucks about 'new urbanism'...if i tried really, Really, REALLY hard...so no, the [and since i don t like labels, i won t call you 'evil'] Resident Impediment, well, hasn t...
...so fuck off with your smarmy little passive- agressive snark
Interesting post Beantown. In many ways you're talking about meditation, or at least the particular sitting practice that I engage in. Paradoxically, a narrowing down of focus during meditation is exactly what spurs the mind to become distracted by any given thought such as paying a bill, changing the oil, what's for dinner, etc. To be truly present and aware -acessing the "mindstream" - the mind needs to relax and expand in order which is exactly what is not typically associated with focus and concentration. So although obsession and neurosis might share some mental characteristics with and be confused with a "focused" mind, it's a narrow and rigid type of focus not at all conducive to the "expansive" type of vision you mention. In short, obsessions are condensed "motion-of-the mind" type distractions which blurs awareness and nullifies the ability to be present in the moment.
Of course words are ridiculously cumbersome and the actual doing is what creates true realization as opposed to the type of speculative writing that I've just engaged in.
I gave you a perfect set up, but you must not have felt the return worth an investment of energy, EROEI. Nice try though. If you can't take "passive aggressive" heat, stay the hell out of the CFN kitchen. Oh! He's impeding again! LOL!
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What are you talking about? He's not a mass murderer just because he's not a pacifist. Stop being so creepy.
The Muslims say that Christ and his message of introversion and non-violence taught the way to the Other World - whole Mohamamad and his laws annent family, wealth, and war taught the way in both worlds, Here and There.
And even Christ himself made a whip of cords and drove the moneychangers out of temple.
Right, Left, Tweeddledum, Tweeddledee. Left once referred to the Enlightenment tradition of willingness to critically examine the reasoning behind any and all opinion. Today though, Left no longer is about Free Thought but has instead devolved down to a slate of political positions that must be accepted en total. That is, Left now translates to a framed doctrinal political position no less than is charged against the Right by the self righteous Left.
Marking distinction between immigrants on basis of legal or illegal is an awkward technical point for the Left, so it is scrubbed away from reference. Implicitly, there is no distinction between citizen and non-citizen. Implicitly: no national sovereignty. Implicitly: no national borders. Implicitly: no exclusive right to the citizenry for controlling national destiny. Implicitly: no representational democracy wherein the will of the citizenry is framed into law. Implicitly: immigration laws crafted and framed into law by elected representatives must default to however many foreign nationals choose to ignore them.
Nice; dog-chasing tail circuitous thinking.
But then there is the moral trump card served up by the Left: America must surrender sovereign rights by some unspecified degree as penance for perceived historical wrongs as judged against some unspecified position on 21st Century Political Correctness. Doubled, of course, by the no less vague notion of America not having the correct formulation of color, religion, ethnicity, race, etc., etc., etc.
Now tell me, how is that different from the Right’s self-righteous “family values” stance?
I allign with practically all criticism made on this site about American foreign and domestic policy, just don't try to entrane me with any particular partisan spin.
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Indeed. If you can, listen to Public Radio. Ian Masters [himself an anti white immigrant] is aghast at 'Wisconsin'. Never, never a mention of
'Numbers', legal or otherwise!
Words of foolishness of the day:
'Now I will agree that some on the left smell an electoral coup via illegal immigration' [buck]
Some, some!? It was cantankerous Vladdie who noted
'The Dems are winning, we import millions of em each year'!
Did you read the posts I posted on Obamas adding more even beyond what is legally allowable.
Cave,
I want to take you seriously, and believe that you're an objective observer concerning the following:
And this
But then you use almost the entirety of your post slamming " The Left". In fact I counted five " The Left" and four "implicitly".
So onto this assertion:
Since you've about used up your "implicit" quota please provide a source or stated policy by someone on the left to EXPLICITLY corroborate your above assertion.
Ok...no partisan spin then..." the left, the left, the left, the left, the left...implicitly implicitly,implicitly, implicitly".
The above is weighed and measured by the FOX News "Fair and Balanced" scales.
I've always had the ability to look at things both narrowly and widely at the same time. I've meditated many times, but it doesn't do too much for me. Maybe I'm not doing it correctly; or maybe my mind just isn't built to accomodate it.
Sometimes, when I really get deep into whatever I'm doing, my mind feels like it's free-floating and the rest of the world goes away. Perhaps this is akin to meditation.
When I Sit and do nothing but breath deeply with my eyes closed, I let thoughts flash by on the screen in my mind, and eventually the mental ticker-tape becomes blank. I come out of it feeling rested, but but when I re-enter the world, it's as if I never was away - in other words, it doesn't seem to have any real affect on me.
And some on the right have traditionally Hispanic immigration - specifically those from Cuba, PR and conservative Catholics from Mexico and elsewhere - as a electoral advantage.
The problem with you is you view all Hispanics as one monolithic voting bloc. And nothing could be more foolish.
I doubt newbees vote Repugnican!
Certainly the 'unwashed masses' here in California dont.
Do the Cuban immigres? Are they 'hispanic'? Often they are part black [that I got from a marielito!, actually he said 'all thats left in Cuba are
"the Nubians, everyone else has fled"].
What does Hispanic mean or translate to [as a word?]
Peter Brimelow in his best seller of 20+ years ago gave an eloquent denunciation of the word.
I do see immigration as having wrecked this nation,
ill offer that generality.
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"I do see immigration as having wrecked this nation',
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You are right about that, antiS, from the Reagan's amnesty to today - America is slowly being destroyed by overpopulation and a vanishing common culture.
Go ahead and gloat, all Haters of Western Civilization.
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I find my desire to post to CFN slowly waning. This has been a particularly useless week here - mostly courtesy of asoka..
Just as there is a limit to the number of people that one can love, there is a limit to the amount of bull shit that one can scroll over,
For decades I've not expected anything from the Right except idealogue diatribe, but my ire at the Left is that by ossifying itself into just another political dogma it has betrayed the principles of it label's origin.
Thanks for your comments; I sense you weigh them carefully and express them respectfully. This site would benefit from less vitriol.
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In general I can't disagree with your tag of the left. For instance, how can the left open the door to cheap, undocumented labor on one hand while claiming to be pro labor/union on the other? It's simply incoherent.
there is a limit to the amount of bull shit that one can scroll over...
Thanks for revealing who you really are. You talk about dialog and conversation, but for that to really happen you have to at least read and try to understand points of view different from yours.
You have just admitted that you scroll over, which is antithetical to conversation. It actually impedes conversation. You are an impediment by your own admission.
We have a huge barrel of wine, but no cups. That is fine with us. Every morning we glow and in the evening we glow again. They say there is no future for us. They are right. Which is fine with us. -- Rumi (translated by Coleman Barks)
Coleman is in Georgia, P2C. Sometime is you get a chance to hear one of his Rumi poetry presentations you should go. Powerful stuff.
Buck Stud, I was listening to Rachel Maddow interviewing a democratic Ohio politician on MSNBC, and the democrat mentioned his website.
At the end of the interview Rachel said: "Since you mentioned your website, in the interest of fairness I am going to give the URL of the website of your Republican opponent."
And she did, and the democrat said: "Whoa, how did you pick that out of the air?" And Rachel replied that she had visited the opponent's web site and read the opponent's positions as preparation for the interview, and noted down the URL. Then she added, "Your opponent is welcome on this program any time he wants to be interviewed."
I thought to myself:
"That would never happen on FoxNews." They would never promote a democrat. They would never give the URL of a democratic website. They would not provide an open invitation to a democratic opponent to appear for an interview during an interview with a Republican.
Fox is not truly fair and balanced.
how can the left open the door to cheap, undocumented labor on one hand while claiming to be pro labor/union on the other? It's simply incoherent.
No it's not. Undocumented labor should be given an opportunity to work toward citizenship. Immigrants should also have the chance to organize, form unions, negotiate better working conditions, and improve their lives, just like everyone else has.
It's not like we have a lack of problems that need to be addressed. We need all the workers we can get to do all the work that needs to be done, and not only in agriculture. In transport, in health care, in manufacturing, in service industries, in housing, in clothing, etc.
We need to be spending more on those things and less of "defense" and weapons. The money is there (being wasted by the MIC), the human needs are there. All we have to do is get our priorities straight and open the doors to immigrants and work together to solve our problems.
Peak Oil?
SINGAPORE — Oil prices fell to near $83 a barrel Friday in Asia...
Peak Oil? Shouldn't less oil mean prices going up?
Weren't CFNers predicting $200/barrel oil by 2012?
SINGAPORE — Oil prices fell to near $83 a barrel Friday in Asia...
Go ahead and gloat, all Haters of Western Civilization.
What Western Civilization? You wouldn't even have what you have if it weren't for EASTERN CIVILIZATION.
It is often assumed that since Ancient Greek times Europeans have pioneered their own development, and that the East has been a passive by-stander in the story of progressive world history.
What actual happened is the Rise of the 'Oriental West': First, each major developmental turning point in Europe was informed in large part by the assimilation of Eastern inventions (e.g. ideas, technologies and institutions) which diffused from the more advanced East across the Eastern-led global economy between 500–1800.
Second, the construction of European identity after 1453 led to imperialism, through which Europeans appropriated many Eastern resources (land, labour and markets).
Without the older civilizations of the East there would be no Western Civilization, such as it is.
CORRECTION
Without the older, MORE ADVANCED civilizations of the East there would be no Western Civilization, such as it is.
CFN is largely operating out a Eurocentric myth of the West and its so-called "western civilization"
Romney was fascinated with police uniforms, which he sometimes put on to carry out elaborate practical jokes.
According to a report from National Memo, Romney was open about this practice, telling fellow students at Stanford University, where he studied for two years, that he "sometimes disguised himself as a police officer."
According to classmate Robin Madden, Romney once brought a group of classmates up to his dorm room where he showed them his Michigan State Trooper’s uniform.
From the National Memo report:
Isn't impersonating a police officer, umm, what's the word? Oh, yes, isn't it ILLEGAL?
Just more "hijinks" like holding down a classmate and forcibly cutting his hair? Like putting your pet dog on the roof of your car and driving for 12 hours? Laughing closing factories and throwing people out of work ("I like to fire people" and "I don't care about the poor")
At some point some people may begin to ask questions about Romney's character and judgement, independent of the number of wives he has or his weird religious beliefs.
They have Democrats on every night Nimrod. And there's standing invitation for Obama to come on too. But like other high ranking Democrates, he's not getting within a mile of the place. He wants a compliant media which tosses underhand throws to him.
Remember Biden's rage when a journalist had the temerity to ask a real question - namely what the hell he was talking about Obama having a spine of steel, etc. Biden spat back "Who is writing your questions"? The whole story of the media is thus exposed.
And there's standing invitation for Obama to come on too. But like other high ranking
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Yeah, it's a scoop and a newsmaker to have HIGH RANKING officials. I wasn't talking about that.
Rachel Maddow was issuing her invitation to a Republican who is out-of-office, a challenger, and is running for a LOW RANKING office.
Fox News doesn't do that for Democratic challengers, nor do they share Democrats' URL web site addresses to provide fairness and balance.
Prog,
I am also getting tired of just scrolling by Asoka's garbage. When I first came here four or so years ago I enjoyed reading his posts because I, too, am a liberal. But his "multitudes" have so expanded that he has pretty much hijacked this site.
The same can be said for Vlad - both of them. I don't read either one.
The interesting posters like LBennett, you, E, Ozone, Welles, etc. are "outshouted" by continual rants of racism (on both sides) and other long-winded whatevers make it difficult to navigate this site.
If LBennett hadn't come back and if I didn't enjoy reading her and the others so much I would make like Cash, Wage, and others and leave.
It would be nice if Alexandra, Tripp, Myrtle, and others would post again so as to dilute the bilge of the people who overpost. I'm not holding my breath though because this blog seems to be spiraling down the drain.
BTW I'm glad Met/Mika and his discriminatory rants have left. While I'm not a Catholic, I was getting rather tired of the all the problems in the universe being laid at their (the RC church) door. :)
Thank you. I ignore flamers, but when it seems that most cannot so much as grasp the gravity of the situation we are faced with, I have switched to the "flame" mode every now and then..just for laughs. The situation we are facing is not funny, so I will not ask the band the fiddles while the Titanic goes down to distract us anymore.
You had mentioned what may be or is an apparent glut of methane. I was trying to figure out where this abundance came from after a near life threatening shortage in 2003. FRACKING and horizontal drilling was the answer. Google Richard Heinberg's "The End Of Growth" on youtube and see where this "abundance" has come from.
I never meant to disagree with you or anything like that, I just took the readings and words or others to heart and at one point, hoped that we had some cure or fix that would buy us time. I merely was questioning if what I had read by Kunstler, Ruppert, Orlov, and Heinberg....all gifted men who have no axe to grind, could be wrong. Looks like time will vindicate them as well as the rogue petroleum geologists who influenced them......Hubbert, Colin Campbell
I hope natural gas and coal can buy us time, but reality.................. aside that these "magic bullets" will create more long term problems than tghey hope to solve
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I hope natural gas and coal can buy us time, but reality.................. aside that these "magic bullets" will create more long term problems than tghey hope to solve
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It's just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The problem is that utilities will soon, for the first time, emit more than 50% of their power from natgas as they are switching en masse out of coal since natgas is now so cheap. However, that switcheroo will simply make natgas deplete rapidly.
The USA is already at a point where environmental considerations from fracking will take a seat at the back of the auditorium due to our monster energy needs. Of course, unlike petroleum, geological estimates of the number of cubic meters of natgas in a well are notoriously unreliable. We get no nice Hubbert Peak and mathematically computable ramp-down. It just stops on a dime.
Other "environmental" solutions like electric cars are actually an even crueler hoax since a mass movement to them would create such electricity demand that utilities would bend, buckle, and break under the load. They would actually increase the necessity to return to dirty coal burning because we wouldn't want to shoot our "bounty" of natgas on a nationwide fleet of Chevy Volts and Teslas.
Just as the Fed merely postpones and worsens the ultimate austerity that faces us, our refusal to live differently merely worsens the burn rate of our resources.
E.
Asoka should have learned from his parent's advice and used birth control. Ignore anything he or aliases like him have to say and he will fall in love with his rubber doll along with Dale, buck "stud", or other social rejects and ignoramuses and they will be gone.
Exactly. So it may be a choice between avoiding frost bite and hypothermia in the winter vs lethal, toxic drinking water? I want to say how many ways are we screwed....
Morning CFN...
Coupla things.
First someone said that the illegal immigration is what's destroyed this country. This country is facing a myriad of problems from rampant institutionalized corruption. One that allows for no regulation of those who break the law in the financial realm where they have changed the laws so nothing they do is ever criminal.
A two-party system that's completely failing to provide leadership. A campaign finance environment where the richest among us auction our politics and the stupid polity listens to their red-meat commercials.
Other issues just as important are the huge population in relation to food energy and the basics for survival: thus a destruction of the ecosystem that we need to survive.
In respect to immigration, it's part of the big picture of the globalist inverted communism drive: a global neoliberal philosophy of endless growth that isn't possible, and the need by the top CEO's to make the most amount of money possible reducing workers to slaves.
We are also getting students from around the world at our universities and don't want them bringing information back to their countries of origin because of the competition aspect---and you know we hate competition.
We've created a base of industry in China and that's where innovation takes place. In the meantime we get the Neoliberal cant about how we will all be innovators and se need a million Steve Jobs's.---What universe these folks live in is anybody's guess--but hey, they make oodles of bucks blowing smoke up our petotooties.
Back in the '70's I remember the state dept. made it hard for Europeans to immigrate here because they said it was to protect the jobs of the college educated, now we realize they are building a slave class and we will all be joining them soon.
Believe you me, I have not even scratched the surface of what's destroying this country---try as you all might to demonize the left or the right.
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Senneth--thanks for the comps.
"The USA is already at a point where environmental considerations from fracking will take a seat at the back of the auditorium due to our monster energy needs." -E.
This is what I've observed too.
Very few in this doomed republic seem to understand what "needs" are anymore. The way the majority of us live is not based on needs whatsoever; it's based on [energy] gluttony. It pushes all the buttons of bodily contentment and appetite satiation that couldn't possibly be dreamt of by kings in the past.
I predict a strong resistance to ever giving up these luxuries, so they'll [of necessity] be blown away by the harsh winter winds of privation and scarcity.
I'm forced by the evidence of my own eyes to cast aside false hopes and prepare as best I can for a shitstorm of madness from those who believe it to be "somebody else's fault I can't have what I want" (insanely stated as NEED). (The old, "you can't get blood from a stone" chestnut comes to mind in this case.)
Like yourself and MN, the only way out is going to be through. (This is also why I discount the "race" angle. Those who focus on it will pursue it; there's nothing I can do about it. I will not engage in mindless and senseless slaughter, I can only resist the inevitable attempt at enslavement that will follow, no matter the "winner" of such mindless warfare. For the same reason, I will resist religious movements that demand absolute fealty; an enslavement of mind and body.)
Here's HOPING that some of those that actually know how to think and do useful things survive; if not, it's barbaric reset or extinction. Oh, the waste, the terrible waste, and what could have been...
(sqirming in seat and waving hand urgently in air) i know! I know! the answer is 70... which is one more than is legal, or even physically possible in 160+ [troops deployed in 100+ countries] states of the union (sic)...!
BT/LB,
Yeah... what YOU said. ;o)
Charlie,
lol
70, eh?
Don't even want to start reading down that list of "the ways"! (The few in the forefront are daunting enough.)
Carry on!
Yeah, O
When the energy depletion rears its ugly head, all things right and left, racial or any other artificial divisions will not be relevant.
Survival will be in the forefront and anyone that can get you there will be who you will align with.
I for one will not give a flying F who their parents were.
As per usual, you're making it very difficult for me to disagree with you! ;o)
And Round!
Amen
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See/listen to Max Keiser today on "Planet Ponzi" interviewing author Mitch Feierstein, hedge fund manager.
about global ponzi schemes, asymmetric hedging and whether or not hedge funds do any ‘good.’
Yeah we get it, everything is self-referential & relative & non-delineated.
This is no new discovery, self-annointed philosophers have been shouting this for eons.
Shut up.
peace peaceniks
...what you both said...@FKALB: on that note, i ve been trying to strengthen ties with my immediate neighbors; trading yardwork, mechanical advice/help, etc...he s not black or anything; but IS a neck-tie-wearing-republican- so gets the same initial repugnance flad seems to feel about color...but a little overlooking of differences could make all the difference in the world- or the end of same...cheers everybody, i m scheduled for the second heat in the rat race today...hey, at least i made the finals!
Despite extensive news coverage of what was widely portrayed as a disappointing government jobs report last Friday, Americans are about as likely to describe it as "mixed" (40%) as to say it is "negative" (42%), with a small minority characterizing it as "positive" (9%). But Americans who view the report as negative are more likely to say it was somewhat negative rather than very negative. -------Gallup Polling Report
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WELL, I just feel so much more INFORMED now, don't you?
Of course, in reality I am not advocating anyone to engage in destruction of government property. But we are not in reality here. We are in CFN fantasy land.
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It's just a matter of personal freedom, we should all be allowed to own medium range intercontinental ballistic missiles. But I'm not crazy or anything, you should only be allowed single warheads, no MERV's.
You one of those libruls who believes in gun control?
I'll tell you what gun control is: accuracy with MIRVs at 5,000 miles.
Hey Rhino, as far as Germany reestablishing the 'Duetchmark', what we need to worry about is if they decide to reestablish the 'Reichsmark'!! That'd be an event worth noting.
What I'm trying to figure out is what's the difference between a Greenwich, CT hedge fund 1%er, who everybody hates, and a rich Hollywood Showbiz Queer who can afford to plunk down $40,000 every week for a fundraising dinner with Barak Hussein Obama at George Clooney's house. Is there a difference? Maybe somebody can fill me in.
--WSP7
Brimelow in his best seller noted there are limits!
'there is a limit to the number of people that one can love'
There is a definite limit to the number of people that can fit in a lifeboat otherwise it will sink.
Brimelow noted that a country is like a lifeboat.
Around LA, I notice more and more Russians, Muslim women in head scarfs, Indians [dot, not feather] etcetc.
“Goon From The Moon” Winner Announced
While Asoka may never win, on the basis of any individual comment, his “body of work” does deserve recognition. His relentless use of “logic” to persuade us that up is down, right is left, and north is south, are indeed admirable, and truly in the spirit of internet content quality. Besides, having grown up left-handed in a right-handed world, I think I have a teensy bit of insight into the origin of his issues.
Widespreadpanic7, (are there no less than six more) deserves at least the silver medal for being a seething and swollen pustule of inflamed relentless rage and hostility. I can only imagine he retired after a career in a service profession. Only forty years or more of saying, between gritted teeth, “thank you sir, and please come again” could produce such galactic acrimony.
“Most Improved” has to go Dear Leader Xiantravel, with enlightenment producing paragraphs like this:
“Analysts additionally acknowledgmented that the banging e-business bazaar amidst . has likewise had a abrogating aftereffect aanimald the advantage of cyberbankings bankers that accomplish amidst the acceptable administration channels.”
Wow! That sure emptied my mind of duality. I’m beginning to wonder if this site is being used to communicate some form of Chinese corporate espionage directives, or is this just an example of a Chinese/English translation software “solution”.
And drumroll please TADA! The winner of the “Goon for the Moon” Award for early June is:
Charliefoxtrot, who had the insight to tell himself…”so fuck off with your smarmy little passive-aggressive snark.” Way to go!! Those are the kind of debate skills that makes the internet so lively! I can’t wait to see how you respond to yourself. Errr….How many times DID you watch “Fight Club”, Tyler?
Sorry to all you who didn’t cut it this week, maybe you’ll have better luck next time…..and for fucksakes get over yourselves already! Ever silly notion that pops into your head isn’t worth even YOU taking seriously, much less the rest of us. Learn to view your thoughts as actors on a stage. Kick back, have a beer, relax, let go……what really matters…..ain’t here. Cheers!
Way back when, both Japan and Europe had their manufacturing capacity destroyed by war.
However European nations did not [in the 1950s] 'open the floodgates'. Not yet, at least.
The Pope has said 'America should welcome the stranger'!!!. [add more Mexican Catholics I guess]
We cant unscramble the egg.
US has added 100,000,000 since 1965.
And our manufacturing is being off shored.
Manufacturing could, in theory, be brought back.
"First someone said that the illegal immigration is what's destroyed this country."
-bt-
Li,
There are only 10 mentions of "illegal immigration" on this week's thread - up to this point, and none of these said anything about "ruining the country."
What antiS said, that I backed him up on, is that "immigration" is ruining this country.
Look, the problems caused by "illegal immigration" are miniscule, and easily reversed - compared to the problems caused by excessive "legal" immigration. ?*
When a thoughtful and intelligent person, such as yourself, accidentally substitutes and/or confuses these two different issues, it shows how far gone rational public discourse is in these United States. (no offense intended)
Until the country realizes that TOTAL population growth is running at 3,000,000+ per year, totally due to immigration from all sources - and that this is the, easily addressed, origin of many problems the country faces -
There is little hope of turning anything around.
"The CEO of the New Jersey-based PC Tech computer training school and the owner of a consulting firm have been charged by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents for student visa fraud." *?Note that this case is "legal immigration," since visas are involved.
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/june-6-2012/ceo-tech-school-nj-charged-visa-fraud.html
You have been 'with us' [as a poster] for a few weeks?
A few weeks ago Kyoostik [once known here as Qstik]
accused Asoka of posting as Asoka, Hansen and one other name, in order to have a conversation of sorts, with an intentional misspelling to 'make it seem real'!!!!!!!!
progress2conserve,
I sent you an email. Please check.
All this time the coward ... Asoka.
Oooooh, Asoka called me a coward. Fucking hilarious.
Here's something even more hilarious penned by Asoka in one of his posts on this site on June 4/12 12:02 am:
Third, without entering into details, my life has been threatened several times, including in a war zone where soldiers were carrying machine guns. I have never altered my belief in nonviolent response in any of those life-threatening situations.
My life has been saved several times by creative, spontaneous and nonviolent response.
End of quote
Sidesplitting. Asoka the intrepid world traveller, courageous and resolutely non-violent, fending off hard-eyed men by means of his rapier wit. No doubt your dazzling verbal trickery left them arguing among themselves while you calmly walked away, smiling grimly.
War zone my ass. Nice work of fiction.
You know what I think? Just speculating here, or extrapolating from the howling bullshit you post but I'll bet you really have been south of the Rio Grande the odd time, but mostly to avail yourself of cut rate.. ahem... "services" provided by the local lovelies. And I'll bet the only contact you've had with armed banditos is with revolver wielding madams. As I said, just guessing. But am I right? That's ok you've embarrassed yourself enough for one week so you don't have to tell us.
As far as identity goes, this is an anonymous blog and I like my anonymity. If you feel it necessary to disclose your personal identity and personal details be my guest. This after all is the internet, a perfectly good place for boneheads to divulge all there is to know about themselves. So go ahead.
Oh, one other thing. We still haven't heard your thundering denunciation of Imperial Japan for trying to produce a nuclear weapon during World War Two. Go ahead. We're waiting.
"When the energy depletion rears its ugly head, all things right and left, racial or any other artificial divisions will not be relevant.
Survival will be in the forefront and anyone that can get you there will be who you will align with."
-bt, to o3-
Guys, I respectfully disagree. Have you examined ANY of those demographic housing pattern maps that I have linked to? This country has never been more racially stratified. Those of us who are (generally speaking?) middle class or above frequently like to pretend otherwise - but our pretensions do not generally impact reality.
La Raza knows race matters - consider the name.
Jesse and Al's livelihoods make race matter.
BTB told Mika that race/tribe matters a LOT.
"Survival will be in the forefront and anyone that can get you there...."
-That's a beautiful sentiment. But, mostly, stressful situations cause humans to organize themselves along racial lines.
If you don't believe me - consider the following stressful situation. You're a new student at an integrated high school. It's lunch. You're lonely and a little scared. All the tables in the cafeteria are visibly organized along racial lines. What table are you going to sit at on the second day? What table are you probably going to sit at on the 10th day.
Be honest.
No Solution Ever !
There will never be any solution to any problem, to any possible kind of problem ever (personal, political, society, etc.) no matter what, learn to give up, give up real fast. The Mental Model Mode of imagining a future that is supposed to "follow a path", "a predetermined path" that we wish occurs and happens and such, and if it doesn't happen we get mad at the world, ourselves and others (and are jealous of others having been successful in following that similar path, why him and not me ?, etc.), try to find the blame, and keep on trying to push the path the way we wanted, or simply cry forever because it didn't happen, our expectations didn't "come true", the "world betrayed us", the random luck, factors, events betrayed our linear model, of "going forward", of "achieving our will power", of "having success" is flawed, wrong, must be hosed: since we expect the world is going according to a Mental model of the Future, what is planned, what is expected and such but then in almost all cases it doesn't.
Nothing further from the truth: the world follows its own path, anything can happen and often happens, so it is better to give up ahead of time and avoid failed mental models and failed expectations from the beginning, don't believe in anything (especially don't believe in your mental models or plans, since all mental models and plans are wrong always, they are always 100 % wrong), don't believe you can do it, be a failure from the start, don't try, don't even try, do nothing, have no model or goal or expectation, be free, free your mind, don't punish yourself by trying and wanting to follow a failed mental model, that was wrong and flawed structurally from the beginning, from the outset, by definition because all mental models are wrong, are just wishes, fairy tales, have mostly nothing to do with the real world which has no models, no direction, no goal, doesn't care about anything, etc. And who cares if other are winners and have achieved that specific mental model, just don't assign any value to any model at all and be free and be the real top winner of all, everything is always and has always been achieved this way, you are the absolute winner always, you win, you won.
Especially the expectations that other people or someone etc. will follow a path you take for granted, or events will follow a given path and such, etc. Nothing further from the truth, people are fickle, change constantly, just like the random forces of nature, especially you getting mad at someone because he didn't follow your plan or expectation and you trying to force him or them or whatever to follow a plan when your are fighting a losing battle always, from the beginning, because the other person or people or events or both or society or whatever have their independent and often opposing will power, nay, often oppose your will power automatically, for fun, just because, etc.
So don't punish yourself believing in a given future path or expectation, fail immediately, give up immediately, etc. Like when a soldier dies and the mom of the soldier is in grief: no way jose', it happened, give up, don't care or think about it anymore, kill your mental circuits, don't make them become your prison guard and make you want impossible expectations and paths that cannot be, fail always, be a failure, don't give a crap, free your mind instead, etc. For the mom: it happened, forget about it the next moment, erase the story, the past, the memories and such (if ever it was so easy, but it is since it is just the mind punishing itself, we need to activate bad feelings and are searching for an excuse, actually all feelings are excuses and all reasons to activate any feeling is an excuse hard wired by information and society and such, the goal the ever present constant goal and then the failure, and how much time we dedicated to the goal now lost forever etc. no way jose' kill it all).
The grief is the Mind's way of punishing itself, and we worship our own punishment, but the event is just a few bits, just some random information, disconnect it from any emotional attachements and such, so there are many ways you can start to modify your own brain and mind without having to stick a V8 engine in your head...
THE APE
That was from:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=179196
and
and
http://instantsingularity3.blogspot.it
About the RMark: Never say never. Who was it that said that history never repeats but it sure does rhyme. Where will the Euro debacle go? There's some general outlines. But be prepared for black swan events. Or Lehman events cropping up. The tall foreheads are insisting that Spain hasn't asked for a bailout. Personally I can't fathom that. If it's true that is. What are they waiting for.
As far as the Hollywood set goes I have no real interest or knowledge in their doings or comings and goings. So I can't really comment. But I do like movies.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say I had no "problem" with Black violence.
I'll put it this way. I don't have the same take on the issue of race that you have. Where you see systematic dysfunction in a racial group or societal group and attribute it to genetics, I wouldn't. There are many possible causes. But as to the issue of crime I'm as ruthless with Blacks as with Whites or any other race.
As you say life, after a fashion, goes on. Not everything will be lost even after a calamitous civilizational collapse.
Say what you want about Asoka but he has been here seven years pointing out the alarmist nature of CFN, which has become somewhat of an anti-cargo cult: "we don't know the timeline, we don't know when it will happen, but it's coming, it's coming, it's coming, that we can guarantee you based on the laws of physics. As Asoka says: "Yes, it may actually happen next Tuesday at two. Meanwhile, stay scared.
CORRECTION
Meanwhile, stay scared.
Or as CFN folklore has it: "LOCK AND LOAD!"
500th!
When you wear another man's clothes, I sent you videos of Black violence and you just shuffed it off as another day at the ranch. In other words, you'd see the same from Whites. But this simulated public sex video was something you hadn't seen before.
An APE sayeth:
Please, please, pretty please be a loser, be a sissy, be a wimpy coward like me, don't "be a man", but be meek and weak, you can do it man, do it! and hate the winners, those that are "successful", try to rob their success, their cash, be wrong and bad, be a weak coward, wrong and bad and envious just like an ape man. Invert all values, assign that which is "bad" as "good", kill all ideas of worth, be the opposite of how "they want you to be", etc.
At one time in the past Queers were considered sissy and weak, now they are heroes, go figure ! So then just be a declared wimpy coward and sissy ! And let them all bully you and beat you up (just like Jesus, who let them beat him up, a coward and a sissy, go figure!), be a sore loser, be a pissed off loser, but try to win by fooling yourself like the APE does, but in the end he loses anyway.
It is all about "The Other Mind looking at you and judging you", all about other "Judgments", the judgments of other "independent" minds and such. We need constant interaction, as a constant judgment by others, trying to impress, any judgment, good or bad does't matter, but any judgment, but kill all judgments, you judge all and lose all, etc.
The reason why judgments are so important is because there is no real reference system, only the reference system of other minds and other people's judgments.
Change these mental circuits, fool arond with them all, invert them, go on, manipulate all the Man Brain forever and change all...
As far as identity goes, this is an anonymous blog and I like my anonymity.
I like getting a good night's sleep, but when you are awakened by a group of rowdy armed white men burning a cross in front of your house, it is difficult to continue sleeping.
I can be pretty sure you've never lost members of your family to lynching.
Enjoy your anonymity.
CORRECTION
I can be pretty sure in Canada you've never lost members of your family to lynching because of skin color.
Enjoy your anonymity.
Enjoy your anonymity.
Enjoy your white skin and the white privilege that comes with it, not to put too fine a point on it.
Is massive immigration a symptom of corruption? Sure. But ask Wage - patients die of symptoms all the time. Aids doesn't kill per se, the pneumonia or some other symptom does it first.
On two levels: the very fundamental strain on resources. And on the Cultural or level of the National Psyche, it causes a disintegration. All the cures we talk about will require lots of cooperation or "social capital" and mass immigration, legal or illegal, destroys that. Sure, they might integrate - after generations. We don't have that kind of time and it wouldn't happen if there's nothing to integrate TO. We're already at that point, crisis or no.
Great post ending with an existential question. Dont' agree with all the respect though. I mean Zone is all lovey dovey about Blacks but wants to kill Whites who disagree with him. Boy is he in for a surprise.
And Being There? I'm glad she's back too but let's face it: she's the type who would read politically correct fairy tales to her kids. And look at the revisionism she's pushing: pretending that Deomocrats didn't have (and still do) a cult of Obama. And then unlike a man she was unwilling to defend her point of view just gave a premptory "that's what I believe".
I know you do drearie. And not only do you not read my posts, you'd like to make it so no one else could either. That's why women's blogs are so tedious - they are censored to the point of irrelevance. And then you female people imagine yourselves our intellectual equals!
"跟着张建邦是因为他看中了我的激灵。他是来苏州谈卖买的，后来他来我的发廊洗头，那一天改变了我的命运。"
"我不但和他聊天，他说生意上的事情我也跟着他说，请他放宽心，什么事都一样，车到山前必有路。"
张建邦的生意很大，房地产、娱乐业，还卖汽车，所以，有人说，谁要是让张建邦看中了，就等于发了。
我就让张建邦看中了。他拍着我的手说，多大了？我说二十。我撒了谎，我才十八，我故意要把自己说得大些，这样人家用起我来就放心了。
跟我走吧，张建邦说，给我做老板娘，那个夜总会交给你行吗？你有一个股分，但必须和我一条心。
行。我说。我这就跟你走。
我来到了夜总会，来到夜总会的第二年，我真正二十岁这一年，我遇到了姚小遥。
然后，一切改变了。
周芬娜到这里又抽了一口烟，她的眼神迷茫，和我比起来，我是为爱情疯狂，她是为爱情痴迷。
"我不是张建邦唯一的情人，我只是他众多情人中的一个。来到夜总会一年后，他对我厌倦了，可我经营夜总会是个天才，他舍不得让我走，所以，他说，继续吧，就算为了钱。"
钱真是个好东西。有了钱我就有了自尊。
我不再尿那些狗男人。我想跟他们睡就跟他们睡，不想跟他们就点一支烟在吧台前坐着，听着反来复去的爱情歌曲。我很爱听齐秦的歌，他一唱，我就想哭，他说不让你的眼泪陪我过夜。
没有男人的眼泪陪我过夜。
我自己的眼泪陪自己过夜。
然后我就遇到了姚小遥。
一袭白衣，风度翩翩的姚小遥。他和所有男人不一样，他不去包间，也不要个小姐。他来了，就坐在大厅里，安排好那些声色犬马的男人，不动声色地看着周围，我过去和他打招呼时，他总是爱理不理的。
我知道他看不起我。他身上有好闻的蒲荷香味，他只穿白衣，白长裤白衬衣白鞋子，整个人纤尘不染的，人又瘦，那瘦里，就有了空灵的感觉。
我喜欢看他年轻的脸，淡然的，忧郁地笑着，偶尔会掏出手机摆弄一下，可是，他不会看我。在他眼中我是个什么？穿了暴露衣服的老板娘，年轻风骚。甚至，总是试图挑逗他。
可我喜欢了他。我想我要的就是这么一个男人，干净、纯粹，有忧郁的眼神，能把我一网打尽。
他喝醉的那天是被人架着进来的，我安排了他带来的那三个男人，然后对旁边的人说，把他交给我吧。
我把他扶进了自己的房间。那是一间雪白的房子，没有任何装饰，也许我太脏了，所以我要雪白，我突然喜欢上姚小遥是不是和他总穿一身白衣有关系呢？
姚小遥开始吐，吐得胆汁都出来了，他吐了我一裙子，又臭又味。可是我喜欢，我真是贱啊，我喜欢这个男人把他的东西吐到我身上，我喂他水喝，他咕噜着嗓子叫：宝怡，宝怡。
宝怡是谁？
我想宝怡是个女人。
他睡去了。我躺在他身边，把手伸向他的下边，不一会，他兴奋起来，我又吻他，全是我主动，他迷迷糊糊睁开眼睛说，宝怡，我还没洗呢，你不嫌脏啊？
不嫌。我说，我喜欢。
他做得很缠绵，叫着宝怡的名字，我就那样痴情地看着他，觉得前世是爱过这个男子的，他瘦却力气大，到最后，我叫了，把手死劲地掐进他的后背里。
我是先爱上了他的眼神他的白衣，又爱上了他的身体的。
人和人的缘分就刹那吧，我想这个男人是我的了。无论如何我要得到他，无论他让我做什么，即使再低贱我也会去做，上一辈子我一定欠他的。
他醒了以后看到身边的我。 我笑了笑说，你睡了我。
但我爱你，我早就爱上你，你爱不爱我不关，反正我要爱你。
第22节：美得似仙女
那时外面下起了雨，他看了我好久，没说一句话，穿上衣服就走了。
这一走就是一个月。一个月之后我再看到他的时候，他过来，一把就拉过我，然后死死地亲着我说，马子，你愿意当我的马子吗？
马子这个词真生动，周芬娜说这个词的时候很幸福，她转过脸来对我说，林小白，你相信一见钟情吗？我对姚小遥就是一见钟情。还有，他最吸引我的还是他那气质，特别象张国荣，散淡、忧郁，笑时都是忧伤的，而且，他会唱昆曲和京剧。
你知道我们在床上抽烟唱戏时什么感觉吗？你看过《胭脂扣》吗？周芬娜的说话语速很快，她急于想表达自己遇到了前生今世的人，我明白她，因为我看到顾卫北的第一眼时，也是这种感觉。
我们俩，特别象十二少和如花。
她又吐了一口烟，真是如梦如幻月，若即若离花啊。
说着，她给我唱起了京剧，是《春闺梦》中被纠缠那一段：被纠缠陡想起婚时情景，原来我也曾得几晌温存，我不免去安排罗衾秀枕，莫辜负这好春宵一刻千金。
她唱得可真妖娆，眼神迷离，俨然是个戏子啊，难怪她的母亲和人私奔了啊，有的人，天生就是戏子！
她接着说她的故事："我就这样成了姚小遥的马子。他带着我去打牌去打高尔夫，当着他朋友的面叫我马子，有时还拍拍我的屁股，他和所有那些有钱的老总一样，喜欢带一个年轻漂亮的女孩子充场面。
只要我在场，他打牌必定会羸，他会把手里的一堆钱扔给我说，马子，替咱点点钱。
我不希望只是替他点钱，我希望他能真的爱我，或者娶我。
我知道他有老婆时非常绝望。他怎么可以有老婆？但真的有老婆，我知道了他老婆的名字，他老婆叫宝怡。
宝怡居然是他老婆的名字。一个男人在醉后能喊老婆名字的人不多，大多数人喊得是情人或曾经恋人的名字，但姚小遥喊的宝怡是他的老婆。
我说想见见他的老婆，他嘲笑我说，你可没资格见到她。
这很伤我自尊，在他心中，我只是一粒小小的棋子，而他老婆是整个棋局。
所以，我更要见他老婆，我要见那个叫宝怡的女子。
那天我在脸上化了一个多小时，又去友谊商店刷了一万多块的卡买了新裙子，我要舍得在自己衣裳上花钱，有些人，只看衣裳不看人，衣裳是一个人的品味呢。
看着自己有点像一个白领之后我才打车去了那家深圳很有规模的广告公司，我听姚小遥说过宝怡在那家公司，我进了旋转玻璃门，有小姐用英语问去多少楼？我没听懂，她又说中文。原来，这家公司只做外资业务。
我说找曾宝怡。
小姐说，曾总在十七楼，你约了没有？
谢谢。我上了电梯，心有点慌，我没想到宝怡不是员工，她居然是总经理。
见到她的瞬间我就傻了，我骂自己傻逼，何苦自取其辱呢。她简直不是人，美得似仙女，高挑身材薄施脂粉，身上一件无袖白色紧身衫，一条宽大的白色长裤，更显得人修长，如小马驹一样的长腿走动时，那宽大的裤子飘荡起来，似妖精下凡。
难怪姚小遥会喜欢穿白衣啊。
她笑着看着我，问我什么事？我转身要走，因为和她比起来，我更像一个鸡了，她是凤凰啊，虽然我穿了一万块一件的裙子，又有什么用？裙子也不能救我啊！
她叫住了我。
我回过头去尴尬地一笑，几乎是结巴地说，宝怡，我很爱很爱姚小遥，你能让给我吗？
我能想象周芬娜当时尴尬的样子，在一个气质优雅的女人面前，她，一个发廊女显得多么低，纵然她穿得那样华珍贵，可在一身白衣面前的宝怡面前，她是多么不堪啊。
她总是这样，似一只飞蛾，追逐着自己的爱情，无功而返的时候居多，可她这样契而不舍地努力着。
那你们怎么样了？姚小遥爱上你了吗？我几乎有些迫不及等待地问着。
第23节：爱得太苦
周芬娜说，"我得到的是姚小遥的耳光。他不停地抽我，不停地抽。抽得我眼前冒金花，嘴角流了血，他说小贱人，臭婊子，谁叫你去找宝怡，谁叫你去伤害她？难道你不知道你只是我掌上一个玩物吗？什么时候灭掉你我如同捏死一个蚂蚁一样？
流着眼泪和血，我爬到他脚下。和狗一样乞求着他说：姚小遥，我真的爱你，你想你只属于我一个人，行吗？我可以为你放弃一切，行吗？
真的。我真的没想到自己贱到这种地步，为了一个白衣的男子，为了他飘渺的眼神，我愿意为他当牛做马。
姚小遥一脚踢开我，再也没有回来。
他踢中了我的腹部。他不明白我为什么去找宝怡，我怀了他的孩子，宝怡不肯为他生孩子，因为宝怡要丁克，宝怡要保持身材，可是我肯。
但是他踢中了我，我开始流血，肚子疼得要死，我打他电话他关了机，我去找谁呢？找张建邦吗？我怀了别人的孩子让他负责送我去医院为我签字吗？
不不不，我不能死，我还要爱姚小遥。
疼痛快要了我的命时，我拨通的是宝怡的电话。
姐姐，我喊道，救救我！
我不明白为什么要向她求救，第一次看到她，我就喜欢她的样子，她的样子，男人和女人都会舍不得，那喜欢，是说不清楚的。
是宝怡把姚小遥叫来的，姚小遥有个电话，只为宝怡用，另外一个电话，给大家用。我是大家里的那一个，宝怡那个电话，二十四小时开机。
姚小遥看了我一眼说，别管她，她自找的。
这是他的话，宝怡看了他一眼骂道：你他妈的真不是人！简直还不如狗！
是宝怡在手术单子上签的字，推我进去的那个刹那我对宝怡说，姐姐，对不起。宝怡看了我一眼说，你是个傻孩子。
我真没想到半年之内在周芬娜的身上发生了这么多的事情，她这样爱一个人，再次怀孕，再次流产，但她笑着说，我会让他爱上我的，你信吗？
我不知道，我只知道，她爱得太苦了。
都说爱情是两情相悦的事情，可周芬娜这样痴痴地爱着，她傻傻地看着我说，姚小遥喜欢穿白衣服的女人，所以，我的衣服已经全是白的了，从前那些衣服已经全让我扔掉了。
他还喜欢吸烟的女人，说吸烟的女人有一种迷人的味道，于是我就吸烟，你看我吸烟的姿势好看吗？
我听着周芬娜说话，想流眼泪，这个大情痴，我说你怎么这么贱啊，你明知他有宝怡，明知他不爱你，你这是干什么？
我这是犯贱。周芬娜说，我愿意，只要看到他眯起眼睛看我我就受不了，你知道让爱情中毒什么感觉吗？就是一下子天晕地转了，什么都顾不得了。
说着，周芬娜又吸了一支烟，爱喜烟，白色的，细长，如她的手。她吸烟的姿势真的很迷人，后来我看王祖贤的游园惊梦，里面有一句经典台词：早就想劝你戒烟，可烟雾中的你那么美。每当看到这一句时，我都会泪流满面，我会想起为爱情死去的周芬娜，如果不是爱上姚小遥，她永远不可能死掉，她还会是个快乐的发廊妹，哪怕沉沦，可她爱上了姚小遥，从此，再也没有回头路。
有人说，当你一直再怀旧时，你已经老了。
在法国的这一年，我常常会梦到这些人，几乎每天都要梦到，我梦到他们还活着，生动如初，依然少年。我们的脸生动得象一棵年轻的树，但醒来时我却一脸泪水，惆怅万分。
青春，就是那样一点一滴地过去的。
四
周芬娜的故事感动得我涕泪滂沱，我终于明白，这世界上可能有卑微的人生，但绝对没有卑微的爱情！
所以，我更对自己的爱情一往情深的执著，既然爱了，就象个傻子一样的爱吧。是从这个寒假开始，我彻底对周芬娜的看法改变，我希望她可以得到那个白衣男人，以自己的爱情打动他！既然两个人可以眉来眼去唱戏，并且说过前生今世的话，况且，周芬娜说过，即使做他一辈子小妾也认了，还有什么不可以？！
痴情的多是女子啊，所以，我还是认同了冉红燕的红点，她说，男人用下半身爱女人，女人用上半身爱男人。她对男人和女人观点总是一针见血型的，也许是她经历过的男人太多了，据我统计，她上过床的男人应该不少于十个了！她说，女人和男人一接触，立马想婚纱钻戒一类的天长地久，多滥的婚外情也一样，男人想和女人上床，并且说点甜言蜜语哄骗，尽量少花钱最好，女人则希望修成正果，鸦占鸾巢，所以男人和女人最大的区别就是，男人想占有女人的身体，而女人想占有男人的思想。所以，他们根本合不上拍，男人说我爱你，其实是爱她的身体，如果她难看，或色已衰，男人不会有这么大的兴致，比如去喝酒，如果有个年轻美貌的女子，大家会特别开心，可如果是个半老徐娘，男人便觉得索然无味。爱情从来都不是单纯的，单纯只是我们心中的幻想。
第24节：爱上女人身体 冉红燕的理论总是一大套一大套的，特别让我佩服。后来我问过顾卫北，你是爱我的身体还是爱我的思想，他又再次笑我愚蠢，他说，男人先是爱上女人的身体，再是爱上女人的思想。
那时我们才二十岁，张口就男人女人的，等到我们离二十岁越来越远的时候，我们发现真烦这两个字：女人。我们再自己应该叫女生的时候叫自己女人，在应该叫女人的时候却老想装成女生。
其实我知道顾卫北爱我什么，他说我浓烈的时候似火，那时的我，更象一野马。温柔的时候似水，真的可以淹没他。他还学着《刘巧儿》中的唱段唱过，我爱她，能写能算能劳动……笑得我肚皮疼。
大一，是我和顾卫北热恋的天花乱坠的时候，写万言情书，跑到楼下去打电话，说起来没完没了，刚放下电话，又打，还差一句没说，比如我爱你之类的话。
冉红燕说没见过我们这么恋爱的,淘宝商城，几辈子没谈过恋爱啊？怎么会整得这么缠绵悱恻，这世界上好象就只剩下你们俩了。
甚至我都冷落了戴晓蕾。她来找我时有时我正在楼下打电话，她就站在那看我眉飞色舞地说，说得唾沫腥子满天飞，我说顾卫北你可记得想我啊，你爱我吗，有多爱？你告诉我有多爱？每次打电话我都重复这几句话，没完没了，我自个一点也不嫌烦，戴晓蕾就站在我旁边面无表情的听着，哼，这个大美女，她是一个冷血动物。
一九九七年五月一日。我再次去重庆。
这次，是我一个小小的甜蜜的阴谋。
之前，我打电话给顾卫北，问他在不在？他说，哪里也不去，准备复习一下，然后多泡泡图书馆。他在电话中开玩笑说，光忙着泡你了，四级差点没过，我要准备过六级了，否则媳妇到手了，学业荒废了，我要两手抓两手都要硬。
我又骂了他流氓。他说你不能老骂我流氓了，我落这个虚名冤枉不冤枉啊，你如果再骂，我就真准备流氓了啊。
在我坐到开往重庆的火车时，我的心里好象装着一万只小鸟一样，那叫个快乐。我想象着顾卫北见到我时的样子，一定傻了，非傻了不可！你想想，这不是大变活人吗？从天下掉下个林妹妹！
准亲蒙了我。我想。
在10次的特快列车上，我走来走去，穿行在五一出去旅行的人们中，和小孩打着招呼，见了中年妇女叫阿姨，见了美媚夸人家美，见了帅哥态度更好，可想而知我的心情，我是抱着一种必醉的态度去找顾卫北的！
我并不知道，此时，我的小爱人顾卫北也在火车上，只不过，是在重庆开往北京的火车上，我们在同一时间擦身而过！没有什么好奇怪的，我说过我们是一类人，他也要给我一个惊喜，因为五月四日是我的生日，我是五四青年节的生日！这个生日，我要和顾卫北一起过。
那时，顾卫北正捧着一颗水晶心赶往北京，那颗水晶心是他花了好几百块钱买来，然后又在上面写了字：林小白，我爱你。
当我下了火车跑到他们学校时，当我从他室友那里得知他去了北京时，我坐在地上，放声大哭。
李卓骂我们两个是苯蛋，她收留了我，并且让我马上给顾卫北打电话，让他坐飞机回重庆，机票钱，她负责出。
她真哥们，可顾卫北上哪找那么多的钱去？
我给宿舍里打电话，正好是青岛女孩子骆城城接的，骆城城说，林小白，你在哪里？你的男朋友来找你了。
我一边哭一边让她赶紧给我把顾卫北找来,at秒杀网，只要顾卫北还在北京，就请她给我找到，并且我让她负责给我点钱，借给我男朋友，我要让他飞回来！
我不知骆城城想的什么办法，晚上的时候，李卓拉着我去接机场接顾卫北，当顾卫北从里面出来时，我冲过去抱住他就哭了。
当着李卓的面，我们疯狂地吻着，李卓说，三级片三级片，没法看了啊。
第25节：痴情的一对
那张北京飞重庆的机票，后来我一直留着。顾卫北说，那是他第一次坐飞机，几十个小时的路程忽然变成了两个多小时，这惹得顾卫北说了一句话，真他妈爽。而且，飞机上有吃有喝，还有，他又流氓地一笑， 那空中小姐，真美。
他发誓以后要努力赚钱，然后天天做飞机，后来他果真老做飞机，他却说，林小白，我真怀念坐火车的那阵，我挤在车厢里盼望着到北京站，然后看到你的笑脸，就象骆驼经过了漫长的跋涉看到绿州一样，原来，经过时间熬制的汤才会够味，两个多小时，是有点短。
我们就这样来回跑着，宿舍里有了电话又打电话，最后宿舍里的人说我，老夫老妻，哪有那么话要说啊。
我也觉得真奇怪，和顾卫北在一起，我爱笑，爱哭，爱耍贫嘴，而且跟个傻子一样，我终于明白周芬娜说得话，女人一旦爱起来，多大的傻都敢犯！
一度，我和顾卫北都以为是世界上最痴情的一对了，天王老爷也不能将我们分开了。在看《泰坦尼克》时我哭了个稀里哗啦，顾卫北问我哭什么，我说，露丝不能和我比，因为如果是我，我会和杰克一块死。没有杰克，一个人活着多么孤寂，说着我就哽咽了，顾卫北把我抱在怀里，抚摸着我的头发说，你个大花痴，总会说些让我感动得要死的话。
直到我们分开的那天，我都不相信我和顾卫北要分手了，更不相信的是李卓，她张圆了嘴问我，这不是愚人节吧？
我一直想，我们那么好，怎么会走到了分手这一步呢？
后来我明白，即使提前画好了图案，设计好了路线，中途都可能出现意外--什么事情都一样。 意外就是我一直往重庆跑，大二时他才坐车跑到北京来。
我喜欢那种为爱情奔波的感觉，我舍不得让顾卫北奔波，最主要的理由就还在于，我不想让我周围的女生看到他，他是我的稀世珍宝，至少，我不想让冉红燕，骆城城什么看到他。我想女人这种小心思只有自己知道，对待爱情上，女人是天底下最狭隘的动物！
我总怕别人会喜欢他，或把他抢过去。
北大的女生一向以抢人男朋友而著名，只要是她们喜欢的，看上的，无一例外会逃脱。特别是冉红燕，她自己说过，我看上的男人，一个也跑不了。
所以，当顾卫北说要来看我时，我说不用不用，我喜欢做火车的感觉，特别象流浪。老天爷知道，我哪里喜欢这种感觉，又挤又脏，如果有钱，我也想坐飞机去。
在大二的下半学期，顾卫北突然出现在我的宿舍门口，他给了我一个很大的意外，只是这次，我们没有擦肩而过。
我一下子就呆了，呆了的不只是我，还有宿舍里另外五个人。她们看到了一个类似版的梁朝伟，冉红燕说，我说林小白没完没了的往重庆跑呢，我非常得意，有点张扬地介绍着：我老公，顾卫北。
顾卫北就地叫着，大姐，二姐，三姐，四姐五姐好，我在宿舍中最小，是老六，他又转过头来，六妹好。
大家全嚷着为他接风，我看得出所有人的表情都很兴奋，哼，一群好色之徒！和她们的男友比起来，顾卫北简直就是玉树临风啊。那些男人，说是土豆都高抬了他们！她们还不知道顾卫北打排球有多棒，不知道他写的字有多好看，如果听过他朗诵的十四行诗，估计得有人晕倒。
我们找了附近的一家川菜馆，骆城城和冉红燕都张罗着点菜，我临走前给戴晓蕾打了一个电话，我想应该叫上她。
席间大家的气氛一直高涨着，我一直以为顾卫北是一个深情款款的男子，不会和女生说太过火的玩笑，但那天他倍贫，叫着这个姐姐那个姐姐，讲着一个接一个的段子，逗得她们哈哈大笑。当然，这些才女们并不示弱，把古今中外知道的段子卖弄着，她们拿酒灌着顾卫北，说从前只闻其声，一直以为妹夫不过是个多情男子，因为苏州男人都苗条，却原来是这样英俊翩翩的少年郎。
第26节：金童玉女
她们后来说话都有些调情的成分了，看到顾卫北快忙不过来，而且左环右顾的，我的心里已经很不是滋味了，我他妈突然就吃醋了。我突然想，他在重庆是不是也这样啊？妙语联珠妙趣横生？因为我们宿舍的老二和老三姿色尚可，真的和我有一拼，况且，她们来自东北，很是豪放，特别是在喝酒上，绝对不输给顾卫北。
他们开始划拳。我从来不知道顾卫北会划拳，我总以为自己足够了解他，却原来不知道他这么多事情。
当戴晓蕾进来时，顾卫北已经被她们灌多了。
我不知道别人进入酒场是怎样的，反正戴晓蕾一进来时，酒场一下安静下来了。也许是她的美艳太惊人了吧。
那刹那间的冷场和安静只能说是她吸引人了吧，高高的个子，美艳的一张脸，玲珑的曲线，她穿黑色的蕾丝旗袍，这让我极其反感，因为她明知顾卫北要来，为什么要穿得这么妖艳！
一下子我们就成了丑小鸭！
我注意到顾卫北的眼神发出异样的光。
沉默了有二十秒，顾卫北先说了话，是戴晓蕾吗？我们曾经做过一年的校友，你可能都不记得我了，但我可记得你啊。
这句话更让我反感！他居然还记得她。
因为她个子高？因为她美？
戴晓蕾坐在了顾卫北的身边，当他们站起来握手时，我已妒火中烧了！他们在一起是那么合适，一个一米七二，一个一米八三，冉红燕说，哇，简直是金童玉女！
是的，他们太配了，而一米六七的我站在顾卫北的身边显得那样矮小！
有人说，晚来的要罚啊。我们宿舍的女生，全是认识戴晓蕾的，她们也曾经说过她是个奇怪的人。
而且，她真的对我好，为我洗衣服，带了哈尔滨的红肠给我吃，我病了就跑过来给我送饭，我喜欢的衣服，她会立刻脱下来给我，她对我的好，让我一直以为她是我姐。
但今天她这是要干什么？
她穿的衣服就勾引！
我表情尴尬，看着她和顾卫北在哪里推杯换盏相互吹捧，我都怀疑顾卫北是不是来看我了，他是不是想来看戴晓蕾？
嫉妒让我变得凌牙利齿，我开始暗沙射影地说话，句句带刺。而顾卫北没有顾及我的脸色，还趴在戴晓蕾耳朵说着什么，我看到，戴晓蕾好象很兴奋的样子！真他妈的起腻！大家很快觉出我的不快乐，我问，顾卫北，你累了吗？坐了几十个小时的车，居然还有闲心调情！
我的话让大家都开始难堪。顾卫北看着我，脸色尴尬地说，林小白，我是来看你的，不是来和你逗气的！ 来看我？我嚷着，你是来卖弄风骚的吗？别以为自己帅就怎么样？帅的男生大多是草包，不是草包，你怎么考不上北大？
别以为考上北大的人就牛逼，北大有的是下三烂！
你他妈骂谁呢？我已经控制不住怒火，你才是下三烂，看到漂亮女孩子就犯花痴！
我说话越来越不挨边，到最后我和顾卫北当着全宿舍人和戴晓蕾的面打了起来。
他开始骂我有病，而我说，你他妈纯粹是个风流种子，在重庆风流还不够，还跑到这里来了，你他妈给我滚！
我越说越气，到最后我砸了桌子上的盘子，并且借酒撒风，谁也拦不住我了，我让顾卫北立刻给我滚回重庆去。
结果他真的走了，戴晓蕾还追了出去！
我掀翻了桌子，大哭起来。我哪里想让他走啊，是他太过分，让一帮美女一包围，立刻就现了原形！真他妈是个花花公子！
我打的直奔北京站，我要把他追回来，我要问问他，他到底爱不爱我？
当我到达北京站时，我遇到了戴晓蕾，她说，刚送他上火车，人已经走了。
我看着这个我从十六岁就那么好的朋友，并且在顾卫北来之前也特别好的朋友，忽然之间觉得很陌生。
第27节：大众情人
你为什么要这样？我冷冷地说，那么多男生你不喜欢，你为什么要抢我的男朋友？！我几乎有些声嘶力竭，我的脸一定很扭曲很难看。
你能想到吗？戴晓蕾忽然抱住了我，她说，别怕，林小白，我只是试试他是不是真爱你，我不会抢他的，他永远是你的。
我惊讶地看着她，她笑了，我是用美人计试试他呢，我怕你受伤，所以，我真的是故意穿这么妖媚，结果我发现他是真的爱你，他趴在我耳边说过一句，这一桌的女生，谁也不如林小白动人！
呆了的是我，我后悔得肠子都青了！我以为他们紧挨着在一起说什么甜言蜜语，我以为他移情别恋了！我见识了从来没见识过的顾卫北，他的这一面是我没有想到的，他居然可以做大众情人！
虽然知道他走了，我还是跑到了站台上，我呆呆地望着南方，蹲在地上就哭起来，我的眼泪怎么会这么多，爱上顾卫北以后，眼泪好象成了自来水，说来就来，受点委屈就会哭，简直成了林妹妹。
我怎么会姓林呢？
顾卫北问我姓林的是不是都爱哭？我就说，姓林的就是爱哭，姓林的什么时候不哭了就是没有爱情了！你没看林黛玉小姐一哭不出来就是把情仗还完了吗，一没眼泪心就死了，所以，我哭，那是因为爱你。
我这个理由总是让他无可奈何。反正我一哭他就傻眼，所有的错全是他的了，他总是会跑过来哄我说，啊林妹妹，别哭了，你哭起来真象东施啊，或者说，花痴啊，你的眼泪快淹死我了。
我就这样一次次被他哄好，连撒娇带哄骗。总之，爱情除了哭就是笑，这是件让人变得神经兮兮的事情，也就是在爱着的那几年吧，过了那几年，人冷静下来再看，其实，所谓的爱情，就是抽疯。
那天我在站台上傻哭着，直到后面有人叫我：林小白。
我不相信自己的耳朵，我以为自己听错了。
明明，那是顾卫北的声音啊。
回过头去，我看到了一张让我迷恋的脸，满脸的忧伤，就那样看着我。
我简直不相信顾卫北还在北京，我发疯地踢他打他咬他，一边叫着他的名字一边骂他，谁让你跑的，谁也让你走的？
我们在站台上纠缠了有半个小时之久，直到警察过来，问我们是怎么回事？他说，没事没事，我媳妇要回家，我们小两口打架呢。
神经病，警察骂了一句就走了，我被顾卫北拦腰抱起来，他问我，花痴，快告诉我今天晚上咱住呢？
那天，我们住在了中关村酒店。
一个中档的酒店。我几乎把口袋里的钱全交了出去！那我们在楼梯上往上时，顾卫北一直牵着我的手，我们好象都意识到了什么，下面的一幕谁都应该想到是怎样的，在上到三楼的一瞬间我曾经想过退缩，我想当处女，一直到我成为他的新娘为止，可我却身不由已。
当我们拿着房进了门，他没有让我插入房卡取电，而是把房扔卡扔到了地上，他翻身抱住了我。 我们紧紧地缠在一起，如木棉花与长春藤！
五
我始终不知如何描述那一夜。
也许所有女人对自己的初夜都是难以忘记吧，在一九九七年九月十六日的那个晚上，我把自己交给了自己最爱的男子。
先是如鱼一样的吻，又粘又咸，我不知什么时候把他咬破了。
我们吻着，他的手伸过来，似蛇一样在我的身体里游走着，我觉得浑身不停地在充电充电，好象快要爆炸了。
他把我的裙子撕坏了，那条裙子后来我一直留着，拉锁坏了，我听到他的心狂乱地跳着，他叫着我的名字，一遍又一遍，林小白，林小白……我能感觉出他身体的亢奋，以前我们拥抱时我也有感觉，但哪一次也没有这次感觉强烈！我说我渴，我想喝水，我挣扎着把门插到了钥匙孔里，最后的一点点理智让我打开了灯。
第28节：难忘的第一次
我们看着彼此，足足看了有五分钟。
给我吧。顾卫北说。行吗？
我呆呆地看着他，泪如泉涌，我爱你，他说。
他站在哪里，神色动人，气宇轩昂，像中世纪的一个美男子。
林小白，你知道我多么爱你。
我也爱你，我喃喃低语。
他伸出了手，我也伸出了手，猛然间，他把我拉向了他的怀中，然后一下子抱起我，我们到了床上。
当我们裸体在一起时，他闭上眼，我看到他的眼泪滑落在我的身体上，林小白，告诉我，你为什么这样美？
我们交融在一起，似火似水，那样缠绵，那样无休无止。
生涩、疼痛、激动、失败……我们都有过，但那一夜，我们一直不停地缠绵，一而再，再而三，没完没了，直到筋疲力尽。
那是我们终生难忘的第一次，那条床单上，有一朵盛开的梅花，第二天早晨，我们悄悄下楼，我的拉链还坏着，我只勉强把裙子系在一起，然后我送他上火车，所有人都以为他走了，他必须在北京消失。
我们偷走了那个酒店的一张床单。
那床单上，有一朵美丽的梅花。
我们在北京站附近的一个地摊早餐上吃的早餐，我们吃了很多的油条和豆浆，谁也没有说话，但我们一直在用眼睛纠缠对方，即使吃饭时也一样，有时我们不好意思地笑笑，在桌子低下，我们的腿一直缠在一起。
送他上火车时我哭了，我不停地跟着火车跑，一边跑一边叫他的名字，他说，花痴，你别跑了，你的裙子拉链要开了，别让别的男人看到。
那一幕，再过多少年我可以忘记呢？我一边手拉着裙子，一边跟着火车跑，我的脸上还有泪痕，我的心里装满了甜蜜。
我的爱情之花，开得这样鲜艳甜美，象一个梦，甚至，我都不愿意醒来，或者，就在那天死去。
又有什么不好？
六
顾卫北走后，我彻底变了一个人。
我把身体交给了他，我以为，从此，我就是他的人了。这是他妈的多老的观念啊，我就有，反正他不许和别的女生交往，不许不理我，不许对我不好。
我变得那样偏执、疑心、固执、贪婪……我让顾卫北每天给我打个电话，一周写一封长信，我让他至少两个月来一次北京，我让他必须天天说爱我。
真难缠啊花痴。开始他是这样说我的。 后来他开始申辩，你说天天说我爱你俗不俗啊，早晚有一天你腻了。你会觉得好象吃了荤油一样，那样你觉得有意思吗？
当然有意思！我腻不了。我反问他，是你腻了吧？是不是尝了鲜就觉得没有意思了？我说话越来越刁蛮，总之，只要不顺我的意，我立刻就会说，不爱我了吧，烦了吧。
我的改变让戴晓蕾忧心重重，她给我的衷告是，你老这样，肯定会把男人吓跑了，你这哪是爱啊，你这是折磨！
我才不要听她的，她没谈过恋爱，她懂什么。
何况，我对戴晓蕾有了戒心！我想，得给她找个男朋友，让她尽快轰轰烈烈起来，免得又看着顾卫北好，她是最有竞争力的女人！
在一个美好的夏天的早晨，我和顾卫北一人骑着辆自行车去美术馆看美展，是骆城城朋友的美展，骆城城说，我的青岛朋友，画风极好，看见陈逸飞了吗，比他还有个性。而且，人家年纪轻轻就开了画展，一帮女人后面追着他，他一个也看不上，我都追过他，猜他说我什么，骆城城，你还是小儿科，根本还不懂恋爱是怎么回事！
我心头一动，这样的怪人，介绍给戴晓蕾岂不是正好？
人家都是研究生了，而且还这样有才华，况且，也是搞绘画的，重要的是，戴晓蕾和那个男人世间也一样，追求她的男人也是排成队。
一进门，骆城城正在等我们，她举着票挥着手，美女们，我在这。
第29节：地道混血儿
她的后面，站着一个梳着小辫子的男人，很瘦，苍白，身材修长，它不同于顾卫北的阳光与俊郎，他是忧郁的，眼神飘荡着莫明其妙的东西，总之，这样的人一看就是搞艺术的。
骆城城把我和戴晓蕾拉到这个男人眼前，我的朋友，林小白，戴晓蕾。
然后她指着画家说，我的画家朋友，现在一张画可以卖到几万的陈子放。
陈子放？我想着这个名字，突然想起，在图书馆的那些画报中是看到过这个人的名字的。
他很冷漠地点点头，然后转身走了。
这让我感觉意外，因为他没有和别的男人一样，看到我和戴晓蕾就两眼放出贼光，我和戴晓蕾在一起时，常常是回头率非常高，见面的时候男人的眼光发直的时候比较多，虽然我比戴晓蕾矮，可我总是穿上五六厘米的高跟鞋来弥补差距，我抗议了戴晓蕾很多次，下一辈子，不许再长这么高，要不就我长这么高，你长这么矮，反正不能差距这么大了！
我说这话的时候，戴晓蕾就看着我笑，下一辈子，我准备当男的，绝对不让顾卫北得手了。
那时我更得意了，看，一个女孩子让男人女人都爱，这还不够得意吗？
我庆幸自己有这么好的女友，而且是那种"发小"，从十几岁就在一起，死缠烂打，不离不弃，这种朋友，多少年才可以遇到一个？还有周芬娜，虽然远在上海，可我知道，周芬娜一直在我心里。
我们看了陈子放的画，果然是好。骆城城说，将来要当大师的，毕加索是他最崇拜的，只是他没有那么多情人，他轻易不对女人动心。
这个人真是个怪才，这是个少年的天才。十三四岁得过全国绘画大奖，尔后一直得奖，后来他终于懒得得奖了，专心致志地画达利的现代派，他说自己可以成为第二个达利，他说你们等着吧。我看到他画的那些徽州居，还有那些凋零的荷，必是经过一层层挣扎与蜕变，戴晓蕾看得更是入神，她沉默着，一语不发，这种时候她往往已经入戏，如同周芬娜唱京剧唱得入了戏，分不清前生与今生了。
我唯一的是戴晓蕾和这个陈子放没有碰出什么火花来。
骆城城说，怎么样，陈子放狂吧？
是够狂的，我冷笑一声，可他能把戴晓蕾追到手吗？戴晓蕾至今没有谈过半场恋爱，我敢打赌，因为她视一切那些追求她的男人为粪土。
这两个狂人如果到一起会怎么样？我设想了一下，相爱的结果只会比我和顾卫北更疯，因为这两个人本来就不正常！
但他们居然没有擦出爱的火花，这让我觉得十分奇异。回去的路上我和骆城城说，陈子放和戴晓蕾没戏。
没想到骆城城与我看法截然相反，她说，你不了解陈子放，他越看上的人越装冷淡，不是没戏，是戏大了去了！
果然不出她的所料，几天之后，陈子放就出现在戴晓蕾的面前。
不是俗套子，没有送花，没有写情书，他给戴晓蕾画了一张速写，说正在给她画油画，请她当模特，并且，他还送给了戴晓蕾一副藏镯。
戴晓蕾拒绝了他，她说，对不起，我已经有镯子戴了。
她戴的镯子还是她回哈尔滨时我送给她的，碧绿的翡翠镯，戴在她纤细如白玉一般的手上那么美。 那张画，她也没有要，而且，她没有答应给陈子放做模特。
这让陈子放很是没面子。
从小到大，他没遭受过拒绝，全是女孩子追求他，他是天才，他有气质，他学习好画得还好，他还一副冷漠高傲的样子，这样的男人，哪个会不动心？骆城城说，在青岛，他就是女孩子们的白马王子，而且，他外婆是德国人，那时德国人占据青岛时，他外婆嫁了一个青岛男人，所以，陈子放才这么英俊得野性，你没看到他的眼睛深陷下去吗，地道的混血儿！
第30节：一辈子圣女
戴晓蕾的拒绝也让我很意外，我没想到她条件高得这么离谱，我说你怎么会这样，如果不是有顾卫北，我肯定得死白赖地追陈子放，这样的男人哪找去啊？
所以，你们都是俗人。这是戴晓蕾对我说的话，我说是是，我们俗，我们天天男欢女爱，我是个无爱不欢的人，谁象你，好象圣女一样，有能耐，你就做一辈子圣女吧。
我是要做一辈子圣女。我厌恶男人，特别厌恶！说这句话的时候，戴晓蕾的表情扭曲着，几乎有些变态，我一下子变得特别惊耸！戴晓蕾，肯定有什么不可告人的秘密，或者，让男人伤害得太深了！
到那天我才明白她为什么一直没有谈恋爱，因为她根本不喜欢男人，不是不喜欢，是厌恶！
我问过她为什么，她冷冷地说，别问了！
可陈子放却为她发了疯，几乎三天两头跑到美院去，就在戴晓蕾的楼下等她出来，她出来，他就跟着去上课吃饭，风雨无阻，坚持不懈。
到最后我们都感动了，可戴晓蕾依然还是无动于衷，她说，你相信爱情吗？我是不信这个东西的，她仍然是一个人，只是来找我，我们和从前一样逛街吃饭，周芬娜说得对，戴晓蕾是个怪人，她真的很奇怪。
我们都变了，变得越来越不象少年时的那个人。
宿舍里说我是个爱情狂，有一次顾卫北来电话我不在屋，正好是冉红燕接的，我回来时她们还在说着，我听到冉红燕叫着顾卫北的名字，然后很轻浮地笑着说，那你来呀，看谁喝得过谁，你要输了就得亲我一口！
我冲过去就抢过电话，在电话中骂着顾卫北，你个流氓，你他妈有病啊，逮谁勾引谁！那时我就是那么冲动，一个小小的玩笑就能让我立刻翻脸，为了那个电话，我和冉红燕撕破了脸！我说不要太贱了，看人家男人好就下手啊，别以为我不知道你是什么人？
冉红燕说的话也很难听，你以为顾卫北多爱你啊，不是你死追活拽的人家早不要你了，整天把自己的爱情搞得多伟大，谁不知道你怎么回事。
如果不是室友拦着我们就动了手，我打电话给顾卫北，我说，顾卫北，你要是再他妈和冉红燕说半句话，看我剁了你不剁了你！
那天我和顾卫北在电话中吵了个天翻地覆，我不允许他和别的女生说话，不允许和她们一起去吃饭喝酒，他上课时身边最好也是男生，如果他还这样随便和女生开玩笑，后果由他自负！
他也急了，林小白，你太变态了！你不能这么控制我，告诉你，我就愿意就女生开玩笑，我就愿意和她们来往，她们不象你这么偏执，你简直不可理喻，说什么后果自负，顶多是散伙！
散伙两个字说出来时，我们都呆了一下，我的眼泪一下子就流了下来，那是他第一次说分手，我久久地沉默着，继而哽咽了，我哭着放了电话。
他的电话就又打了过来，对不起，他说，我错了。
我还要接着说，电话就断了，我知道，他的卡里大概没钱了。
第二天他在卡里充了五十块钱，他说完了五十块钱才哄好了我，而且他的腿都站软了。
后来，这成了我的一块心病，只要打电话过去他不在，我就会问他的室友，他跟谁出去了，男的还是女的？
我还给李卓打电话，请她给我监视他。
我越来越提心吊胆，好象转眼间他就要离开我一样。
那个时候已经没有人再写信了，大家都在网上聊天发电子邮件，可我还是坚持一周写一封信过去，从吃喝拉撒到我的学习，甚至来了例假这样的小事我也要告诉他，我说我肚子疼得很。
事无巨细，我把自己的所有交到这个男子身上，以为他就是我的一生一世，来生来世，以为我们的爱情会胜过所有人的爱情，他说过，如果他是皇帝，他会只宠爱我一个人，学学唐明皇。
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下午，和杏拥抱分别，很是伤感。回头见杏还站在进站口看着卧冬心里隐隐地感觉痛。这情形让我一下子回到了2009年6月我们毕业的时刻，用一句矫情地话来说，连空气里都布满了泪水的味道。等车，坐车，再等车，再坐车，四周都氤氲着一层难以抑住的忧伤。
爸爸打电话来问我到哪儿了，什么时候可以到坪山，在坪山的哪里下车，他来接我。我看看外面，天已经全黑了，路灯亮着，连着路边居民区的灯光，一片灯火通明，看到小巴车驶过爸妈以前住的村子，我想再过十几分钟应该就到了吧。挂了电话没几分钟，车停靠在了路边，司机无声无息地开了车门。我想难道是到坪山的在这里下车吗？售票员明明告诉我是在国惠康路口下的。于是，我问了一句：到坪山的在这儿下吗？司机仍然不言语。看到有人在下车，我也下了。由于和告诉爸爸的地址不一样，我赶紧给爸爸打电话，爸爸一副风风火火的样子，大声地说：好，我知道了，在十字路口的红绿灯那里是吧？你就在那里等着，我来接你。
提着包，我站在路边，走来走往，心里想着：我刚刚和爸爸说在红绿灯那里，爸爸本来视力就差，我站在这里，他会不会看不到我。然后，我拿起包过了马路，走到酒店四周的那个红绿灯下面，不停地看着四周，想爸爸会从哪个方向来。过了十分钟，爸爸还没有来。固然马路上的灯光十分明亮，但将近7点，放工的人流和车流穿梭如织，我很担心爸爸会认不出卧冬又担心爸爸会着急来接卧冬不留意安全。也许是由于我提着行李包的缘故又或者是由于我一个女孩子孤伶伶地东张西看，每一个经过红绿灯放工的人都会看我一眼，实则我并非花容月貌，但不住地有无聊的男人投来十分厌恶的目光。加之车辆的叫笛声非常刺耳，肆无忌惮地响个不停,投票软件。无奈的我只好捂住耳朵低下头，一面恐惧一面担忧地等着。但想到捂住耳朵会听不到爸爸叫卧冬我又松开了手。
煎熬的时刻终于过往，我闻声爸爸吼叫我名字的声音。这声音我极其熟悉，在少儿时期，曾经一度被这声音吓得不敢狡辩不敢说谎不敢做错事。循着声音，我看到爸爸站在对面的路边，朝我招手。爸爸的头发又白了，固然隔着一条宽广的马路，映着灯光，仍十分醒目，他穿着绿色的上衣和裤子，清洁工人的服装，一双蓝色的胶鞋。这幅样子容貌让我的心一下沉落到了谷底，眼泪差点奔涌而出。在外地我曾无数次地想到父母受苦的样子，但心中勾画的仍不及眼见的真实与悲伧。爸爸很兴奋地叫我过往，我摸了摸眼角，慢慢地走过往，我怕走得太快，没有时间调整心情，不能很自然地挤出笑来。
爸爸骑着破旧的三轮车，这辆车是什么时候买的，前几年我似乎问过妈妈，妈妈告诉过卧冬但又忘记了。从1998年爸爸妈妈来这个城市打工，三轮车就成了他们必须的拖运工具。种菜的时候用它往卖菜，搬家的时候用它拖行李，现在又用它收废品。爸爸指了指车上的小板凳说，坐上来，我们回往。三轮车后面的铁皮早就没有了，爸爸放了一块薄薄的木板，我很怀疑那块木板能否承受我的重量。我问还有很远吗？爸爸说：不远，就在威尼斯的后面。威尼斯是坪山的一个楼盘，也许是为了打造国际城市范的旗号，取了一个和真正的威尼斯尽不相关的貌似国际化的名字。前年过春节的时候，我和哥哥往看过它的价格，尽管它处于深圳的一个郊区的边沿，但仍然让我们看而生畏。
在路上，爸爸很兴奋地指给我看，那儿是他扫地的地方，没什么垃圾，天天都很清闲。那儿是妈妈扫地的地方，有点累，但是有废品捡，所以还划算，但他每个下午都会和妈妈换班，让妈妈往他那里轻松一点。究竟是晚上，隔着房屋和树，根本看不清楚爸爸指的地方。爸爸又说怎么会看不到呢？很轻易看到的啊。等白天你往妈妈那里玩就知道了。接着又说，嗯，扫垃圾的地方没什么好玩的，你还是别往了，往了会晒黑的。然后又说，我们这个月捡了很多废品，刚刚我来接你之前就是在整理那些拖往卖，这是额外的收进，我们这个月还没有动用我们的工资呢！以前记得爸爸是一个很沉默的人，他一直信仰“棍棒底下出人才”，坚持中国传统式的“严父慈母”教育，对我和哥哥来说是一个十分有威严的人，从来不会啰烦琐嗦地和我们说一些琐碎的事情。尽管有时会有什么事想和我们商量，都会让妈妈代为传告。但这条几十分钟的路，爸爸一直很激动尽不掩饰地和我诉说他们生活的点滴，让我内心纠结地无言以对。我欣喜：爸爸，你变成了一个柔情的爸爸；我难过：爸爸，生活摧毁了你高大的身影。
自从结束了菜农的生活，干起了清洁工，用妈妈的话来说，轻松了很多。也许确实是喘了口气，妈妈的脸色比以前看着好了一点。以前我每次过往，妈妈招待我的第一顿饭，必然有瘦肉汤。可是我并没有那么喜欢吃这道菜。我曾和妈妈说了很多次，我不喜欢吃瘦肉汤，每次船车劳顿好不轻易到了，你就给我吃这道菜让我很没有胃口。爸妈就说，这是非常好的菜，你坐了车喝点汤对身体好，而且肉是多么好的东西，我们穷的时候可吃不到呢！尽管我说现在不是从前，不要弄得你们似乎是刚闹过饥荒的，但老习惯实在没法改。妈妈说，你说不喜欢吃瘦肉汤，这次没给你做，做的是鸡蛋汤，但有瘦肉炒青椒。我很无语地笑了笑，好吧，由于中国农村社会可怕的穷苦经历，让你们觉得肉就是好食品，你们把它作为最美好的菜肴献给卧冬假如我还有异议，还有何颜面生而为人？
吃完饭，我把那些自豪的玩意拿出来晒给妈妈看：敏给我绣的钱包，杏送的小包，振宇帮我带的相机。。。。。。我说要不给你看看我今天和我好朋友照的相片。我选了一张我照的比较好的、笑得比较灿烂的照片打开，拿给妈妈看。妈妈接过往，说了一句让我极度吃惊的话，这是谁呀？我的心揪了一下说，那是我呀，妈，那是卧冬你不熟悉了吗？妈妈又拿远看了看说，看不到，看不清楚，我只能看到一个人站在花那里笑，看不清楚脸。那张相片是我在杏的学校照的，旁边是一大棵树上的花在往下飘，桃红的花瓣一片一片的，照的时候，一两瓣在我的身上，当时觉得这个意境美极了，所以表情十分阳光。听到妈妈这么说，再看相机屏幕上的那张照片，我的脸是扭曲的，而那些血红的花瓣一点一点落下，仿佛正走向死亡。我又翻到后面几张近景的照片，脸比较大比较清楚的，问妈妈能看清吗？妈妈说看不清。这个回答让我感觉全身都在冒冷汗。是的，我知道生老病死是平常，我想到我的父母在朽迈，但是我无法想象朽迈的程度，更无法想象朽迈给你们生活带来的艰难。我问，那你这个都看不到，你平常生活怎么办？妈妈云淡风轻地回答，生活好好地呀，我本来就不熟悉字，又不需要看字，再说我是老花，近了我看不到，远的大的东西我能看清。可是，在我心里，哪里有这么简单。今天，你会老得看不清楚照片里我的脸，接着，你会老得看不清楚现实中我的脸，然后，会不会有一天你会老得不再熟悉卧犊曾有一次，你对我说，你并非生来就是这个老样子，你和爸爸相亲之时也是青春年轻腰如碗口粗容颜姣好皮肤光泽，是做事做成这样的。由于经济拮据，你们年轻时从未照过照片，所以我无法看到你青春时的样子容貌。现在偶然穿上新衣服被同学称赞漂亮的时候，我会想，你年轻的时候是不是就是我这副样子容貌？我吸取了你的精华，尽管别人都说长得不像你，但理应不会相差太远。
第二天，法律硕士联考要往给哥哥和他女朋友买回北京的火车票，妈妈把她的银行卡给我。取了买车票的钱，我查看余额，3700元，这是爸妈这半年赚的钱，这个数字抵不上富人的一杯茶水，却如此地沉重。
爸爸11点放工，10点45，我炖上了玉米和排骨。 妈妈不会料理家务，屋子里乱糟糟地，我想收拾整理一下，又到了要做饭的时间，倒显得有点手忙脚乱。实在我是不会做饭的，寄人篱下的时候干什么都缩手缩脚，更加不敢往碰厨房。但爸妈总是对我盲目自信地说，你会做，而且还做得挺好吃的。想来我空活了24个年头，做的为数未几的几顿饭，都是爸妈包容着吃下的。
爸妈回来的时候饭和菜都熟了，摆上桌子就可以吃。爸爸故意说，还是女儿来得好，来了一回来就有饭吃，不用自己做
晚上，我说我没有带几件夏天的衣服过来，要往买裙子，让妈妈和我一起往。逛了几荚冬都没有合适的，我想往专卖店看看。妈妈说不要往啦，那些店那么贵。
2009年快毕业的时候，我在荆州的金苑看中了一条连衣裙，当时觉得太贵又不想花爸妈的钱，就打算毕业后到深圳打工了再往买。来了之后好几次经过金苑都看到那条裙子挂在那里。打完工终于等到发工资，我和妈妈一起往领了工资，在路上就和妈妈说我要往买一条裙子可能有点贵，你能接受吗？工商管理硕士妈妈很大方地说，这是你自己赚的钱，你想往买就往买呀。等我们欣喜地到了店里，才发现那里的衣服已经都换上了秋装，那条裙子不见了。我问服务员那条裙子呢，怎么这么快就换秋装了？她很职业地回答说上一季的衣服我们都返回原厂了。时间走得多么地快，它等不及我的脚步。也许是我的失落很明显地表现在了脸上，妈妈也觉得很遗憾，说，你怎么不早说你喜欢那条裙子呢，你要是喜欢就向我们要钱先往买再等你发工资呀！我说，没关系，反正现在这个时节买裙子也穿不了多长时间也是浪费，没有了也好。也许这件事让妈妈觉得很过意不往，所以在临上学时，我拿着工资往买了几件比较贵的衣服，妈妈固然也唠叨太贵但没有反对。但由此，妈妈对这几家店产生了对黑店似的恐惧。
一无所获地逛完街回往，在路上，妈妈总是东张西看地看着路边。我拉了她好几次，说留意看车，不要乱看。她尽不在乎地回答，知道。
过了一会，妈妈飞快地跑过了马路。我正在讶异，过马路干什么往了。只见妈妈拿了一个空饮料瓶回来。我说，你是往捡这个了吗？妈妈说，对呀，这个一个能卖多少钱。我说，那你东张西看也是在找饮料瓶吗？妈妈不好意思地笑了笑说，呵呵，是的。我一面恼恨自己无能一面心疼他们，只能故作轻松地说，能不往捡吗？能卖多少钱呀！妈妈开始耐心地算起来，一个是卖不了多少钱，但积少成多，就能卖不少钱了，上个月，我们光废品就卖了三百多，这就够我们吃啦，就不用动工资。你爸爸加班一个小时才5块钱，一天4个小时20块钱，你哥哥加班一天就200，你哥哥也说要你爸爸不加班，免得他担心，但加班就是钱啊，怎么能不加呢？听了我也不知道说什么好，目前的我还没有稳定的工作和收进，没有任何途径能给他们保证，只能叮嘱一句：软件工程硕士那你扫垃圾捡废品的时候一定要留意车，路上车那么多，别为了一个瓶子就不顾安全跑往捡，要留意看信号灯。
两天之内帮妈妈打扫收拾完了屋子，我就打算往肖那里。妈妈说，你才来了两天就要往呀，过几天再往啊！
我说现在我哥和他女朋友还没来，我恰好可以出往转转，过几天他们都来了我就回来。怎么着？我不在，你和你未来儿媳妇相处没有安全感吗？
妈妈很认真地说，是啊，我没有安全感，我将来老了是要和你一起住的。不和他们一起住。
我玩笑地说，算了吧，你儿子早说了不用我养老的。
妈妈更认真了说，谁都不用养，我自己还能赚钱。
和朋友们聚会回来之后，家里的事情几乎都是围绕着哥哥和他女朋友在转。爸妈都是善良注重礼节之人，唯恐给人留下一点不好的印象对哥哥他们的感情造成了负面的影响。有时候为他们考虑得过多，让我很看不下往。由于口味的差异和哥哥的挑剔，把妈妈吵得头晕乎乎的，间接地也让爸妈之间多生口角之事。看到他们身心劳累，我说，以后我要是有一天也往男方家里，决不想让别人家里这么累。
爸爸说，这是喜事，我们累但是很兴奋。这个女孩儿挺好的，我们都还挺喜欢，所以愿意对她好。就像我们供你们读书，我们固然苦，但我们心里乐意。
穷人什么都没有，就只剩下一颗心，一颗想对别人好的心，用爸爸的话说，假如是好人，一定看得到的。
相聚的时间总是短暂的，一跳就到了要回青岛的日子。临走前一天，和妈妈一起往买火车上吃的东西。这是我第三次带妈妈来超市。一次是2009年8月我领完工资带她来买她喜欢吃的点心，一次是2010年春节带她来买日用品。爸妈都觉得超市的东西要比小卖展的贵，很少到超市往购物，妈妈不熟悉字，连收银台都不知道，更加不往。想想我这次走了还会过一段时间才来，给妈妈买了些点心和豆浆粉。
回往的时候经过一家餐馆，老板娘和妈妈打招呼。我说你熟悉啊？妈妈说当然熟悉啊，我天天打扫清洁，都要扫他们家门前的。对了，他们家的面特别好吃，你往吃吧！我看了看腕表，11点，说，现在都几点了，快吃午饭了，现在吃面了，哪还吃得下饭啊，回往吃饭好了。妈妈十分遗憾地说，饭有什么好吃的，他们家的面真的很好吃，我经常来吃的，你往吃吧，你明天就要走了，也没机会吃了。我很为难，实在吃的早餐在肚子里还没消化呢。我说，今天爸爸买了黄鳝那么好吃，我肯定要回往吃饭啊，这个面就等我下次来再吃吧。妈妈难以取舍地说，是呀，今天还有黄鳝，可是这个面真的很好吃，你不吃？我笑了笑说，好了，妈，我明天就要走了，只剩下两顿饭了，两顿饭的菜都买好了，你什么都想让我吃，我也吃不了啊。妈妈这才说，那好吧，下次来再吃。
晚上爸爸又和我说了很多大道理，就是那些他二十几年来如一日和我们讲的人生道理。以前，对这些我是很反感的，主要是讲的次数太多，而在那时候的我看来又不实用。现在，爸爸再和我说这些，竟然有一种温习作业的怀旧感，慢慢地，也品出了一些别的味道。现在的我也算作半个进进社会的人，对于这社会有了初步的熟悉和浅显的了解，逐渐地觉出了爸爸的须生常谈原来是十分有用处的，他的那些迂腐陈旧的熟悉会时刻提醒我要做一个怎样的人。
爸爸说他的一位同事的儿子过来看他爸爸，可是看到他爸爸在当清洁工扫垃圾，当天就回往了。爸爸说的很平静也很简短，也许他是感到欣慰也许他是在警示我们劳动无贵贱之分。研一的时候重读《平凡的世界》使我开始考虑劳动的价值，研二我进进工作,www.fw23.com，再一次深刻地考虑劳动的意义，现在我的父母更加让我明白了劳动的含义。活着，就得转动。
在往广州的火车上熟悉一位大哥，聊天的时候，当他得知我在读研时，愕然地问，你们家里条件一定比较好。我说没有，还是很差的。他说，不，真正差的是不会想到往读研，就像卧冬大学毕业了就直接想到往工作，从没想过再往读书，由于家里实在穷，不敢有这个想法。
听他这么说，我觉得自己实在罪恶。想起初三的时候看过毕淑敏的一篇文章，是说一个学生，逼着家里砸锅卖铁老母亲往卖血供他读博士，由于他实在想读书。那篇文章，毕淑敏是以批评的语气怒说像这样的家庭，这位不孝子就不应该再读书了。所以后来我没有往成日本，也十分释然。
再等等吧，还有一年，相信一切都会好起来的。
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Vlad, whether or not you like Obama (I suspect you don't even though he is half white), the reality is in the electoral vote count (the count that determines who becomes president).
Obama leads Romney 270 to 191.
...that's what I believe
Women by and large do not operate on the level of rationality, i.e. factual-based conclusions.
Ask any woman.
In other news, why in Hades would anyone continue to believe that the Right/Left has any solution to offer for the country? Who's been in power the past 100+ years while the country went down the drain?
Getting apopleptic about the 'other side' merely shows how utterly you've been duped. Both sides laugh at you while they rape you financially and send your sons and daughters off to die for one of their plaything causes.
Will you people never learn? Feather your own local nest with strong family and friendships, work at a trade/profession where you keep everything you make, and help others to be independent like you.
Have a good barbque, learn to fix your car, cut back, get involved in trade and barter.
Don't be one of their dupes.
peace peaceniks
这篇文章，是一位帅哥的成功服装生意经，感觉堪称服装生意之经典。拿来，希望对打算或者正在做服装生意的美眉们，有所启示。学习下吧。呵呵 最不重要的就是货源。俗话说,三分货，七分卖。这个时期，记住，不选自己爱的，只选容易甩的。
每天看见很多人关心找货源，好像有了好的货源，生意就有了保证。但刚开始，其实在商店里，
一 货源
举例：我拿20元一件小衫。10件。1件卖了145元，1件80元，剩下的，每天要求自己无论如何卖一件。务必高于80元。
可能有人说了：真黑。
买这些价位衣服的女人，是不会跟你认真的，他们只是觉得不贵，玩玩，可能不是很好，目前不是很需要，但留着以后小搭小配还可以。价钱吗，穿的出去，横竖又不贵。便宜了，不会穿。
我告诉你：衣服的价值，在于卖的过程。有几多顾客，是缺衣服穿的？女人买衣服，在于享受买的过程。
不信你试一试－－ 20块?太贵太贵！10块好了，我买给家里保姆穿的！！！
卖衣服，要爱自己的货。时间卖长了不要嫌弃。我拿货也有后悔的时分。我会总结教训，但我还是把它当最美的衣服推销。
我那时分的信念：垃圾都可以参与商品流通，何况我卖的是新衣服!不是夸口，客人冲着我的热情来的，熟客一大堆。最高纪录，一天营业额3000多，起码要赚2000多。最低700，也有利润400多点。
4个月后，第二个店开张了。我挖了个送快餐的女孩，600元工资，到我这里1500，她真做到了销售大于一切。我们这个市场，1500是公道工资(当时)，但要熟手。我偏不信，我相信激情。
我开始调整拿货方法了。
我跑遍了所有的市场，经过再三遴选，选定两家批发商。
找货不如找伴。
为什么？跟庄！眼光好，不如跟旺家。
有很多人进货，喜欢东拿西拿，自己觉得眼光好，拿货象"血拼"，象购物。我不会。
我集中两家拿，熟了是大客。别人看不到的新版，我能拿，再熟了，开始退退换换。
看看那些品位妹妹拿的货，我笑死了。
好版我也跟得上，坏版我就想法换，压货少不说，家里风格相对统一，不会乱七八糟，搭配起来一条路。
我的强项是销售，我不会在拿货上耽误的。我不停的赚钱，开店，18个月，共开4家。由于我什么都尽可能卖，
批发商都被我感动了。经常赊销给我，流动资金大大增加。
我后来开了10多家店，共做了6家批发商的货。我早退早换，年底就没压什么货。
说到这里，你们会想,淘宝商城，我是个什么样的人呢！
就在我卖13块一件小衫的时分，我身上穿的是如假包换的香奈尔。当年PRADA.D&G.我都不玩了。
我还有另外收获：这6年间，我手下营业员有20多人创业，20多个老板娘。他们明白了，
你们百分之一百会猜错。
我教育他们，要做无中生有的人。
经商其实用不了多少钱的。
我觉得做衣服是农活，急不来的。
我觉得"正走在这条路上"，拼命推销的是自己对服装的理解，其实，女人们需要的只是心里满足。
你们中一定也有这样的人：喜欢买，多于喜欢穿。
我现在不穿名牌了。错了，不是一定要求名牌了。
现在我的生意不错，货很贵，也卖得好。老实说，穿过那么多好东西，这时装也知道个七七八八。
就是你作为老板娘一定要打扮的漂漂亮亮，如果你想生意好。而且店内的货只能配搭一点，自己决不要穿版，那是营业员的事。你要穿得有档次，你店里衣服都有档次。明白没有，尽可能穿大大的名牌，作为你的战衣。那时，你的一个热情微笑，将使很多难搞的女人，乖乖的成为你的熟客。
卖便宜货和卖贵货是不一样的。
卖便宜货，要热情，
卖贵货，要冷一点。
你们会觉得势利眼？错。
在最顶级的专卖店，你们感觉到那客套后面的一点冷漠吗？！
我卖货。是这样的。2000左右的衣服，不要报价。拿个计算机打给她看，记住，看着她的眼睛。自己只是礼貌就够了。如果她是这个消费层的，她感觉她要证明给你看。女人天生是天敌，太热情了。她觉得你的货不值。卖贵货，笑得越少越好，即使是惠顾了很多次的顾客，也是客套，客套，再客套。东扯西拉的，真是书到用时方恨少。
有朋友问我，你贵货也做，便宜货也做，为什么？
其实是看店址来的。
隔壁左右，卖什么档次，你要照跟。通常人流量大，你就要做量。没什么人的地方，要做贵货。
当然，我瞎堆，千万别搞单唯一店的地方，死路一条，不是节约租金，是浪费时间。
卖便宜货，拉车仔进货，卖贵货，进出是宝马。
卖100一件，赚90也嫌慢，90％也没多少。
有人会说我守两年会旺的，两年分分钟耽误你赚几十万。
卖1000一件的，30% 是300.
但贵货要守，是真的。你不能守6个月到10个月，就不要做。但一年后就不累了。会越坐越旺，很多人没有坚持。做了便宜货，就注定劳劳碌碌了，开头容易，永远辛苦。犹太人是最会经商的，他们就全卖贵东西。
当年很多品牌拉我加盟，我从来不干。满街的货都能卖，干吗要把命运交给你，我又不是不会做生意。
卖散货好，赚得多，没人管，除非卖名牌，名牌会拉你加盟？
我现在也做批发。我不拉人加盟。我又不是没钱，拉100人加盟，要是100个都不会卖货，那不是拉了100个包袱。我也同情那些小店，什么都要人家拿一大堆，人家怎么卖？
女人只对男人忠心，男人才对品牌忠心。我什么好牌子都想试，毕竟消费还没到试过千山万水的层次。
二 卖货定律
1.每个女人都会认为自己穿衣有一套，你不要冒充顾问，作形象指导。(注意：认为自己穿衣打扮不在行的美眉，是不会经常买衣服的)
千万不要喋喋不休的教客人搭配。女人自尊心大于一切，她不会找个地方犯傻给你看的。
熟客很重要，回头的生意比重很大。
否则的话，就算这次买成了。你这里也不会是她想经常来的地方。
我会这样处理的。
客人关注了一件衣物后，全身名牌的我会由衷赞叹她的品位，在她买衣服的过程中，我还会请教他还有什么更好的奇思妙想。夸她应该吃时尚这碗饭。我是大大不如的。
很多情况是，客人发现在我这里买过的一件衣服，贵了别人很多。但她们会维护自己的威信。心里一万个理由去否定自己的失败，不会迁怒于我的---她知道我不是内行。
成果是：我很多客人没事的时候，都喜欢带上老公或男朋友来逛逛，顺便买上几件，展现一下自己购物的精明。这里是她的乐园。她还会呼朋唤友，而且帮你卖货。她想更多的人都知道，全身名牌的我，都是她的粉丝。
我的商店，是无数女人的梦工厂。我贩卖梦想，我的商品是成功感，优越感。
好，对是 营业员法宝。
这面料不好
2.卖货不是辩论
来看看对话：
是啊，您是内行。不过好洗好晒，容易打理。不需要干洗。
穿起来不会舒服
我不喜欢这上面的扣子，太咋眼
对呀。穿之前洗洗。讲究的美女们新衣服通常洗过才穿的。你喜欢红色还是绿色？
成果往往是：一件毛衣，一个手镯，一条裤子。 (她还告诉我们应该配条什么裤子。为了宣示她的正确，又买了条裤子。)
是啊是啊。不过省得配项链了。这里有个手镯。一个色系的。你家里肯定一大堆手镯。
客人有了上帝的感觉，就会成为你的奴隶。
讨价还价的要点，是一个又一个的交换条件，譬喻说买多两件，或者带上配饰,www.tao3k.com，或者承诺带朋友来。承诺价钱要保密。承诺下次不要给这么低，要多关心我们。朋友来了要多帮我们说说好话。大家要双赢嘛。您已经是我们的VIP了。
大家可能注意到，我反复强调自己穿的是名牌。不要鄙夷，这是营销。
你是商人。你要有商人的本质。随意的让步，是恶梦的开始。你这次爽快少50，他下次争取100.
遇上是孤寒的客人，你要全力以赴：好的对手，是老师。
女人很奇怪吧。当她觉得战胜了一个成功的人(我全身名牌)，她感觉自己更成功。两个成功人物的话题，绝对不是讨价还价的区区100、200.(客人会想：我是成功的人。100、200不是问题。)
你的形象，就是商店的形象，你表现的档次，就是货的档次。客人愿意跟你做朋友，当然你要够谦虚，能跟你做朋友，她会觉得自己有档次。
每一个女人，穿衣都有自己一套，告诉你个秘密：她们100％擅长挑衣服。50％擅长挑裤子。30％擅长挑裙子(连衣裙除外)。
老板娘们拿货，喜欢重点在外套上。外套的竞争最大，好看之外，还有更好看的不说，遇上的客人还都是内行，都有自己一套，生意难做？自己检讨一下吧。
以己之长，攻其之短。
为什么女人会不停的购物？真的会买衣服的人,会经常买衣服吗？多数是裤子裙子没配好，但他们从没有想到这一点，她们会满世界找一件合适的衣服，他们总觉得自己还差一件衣服。
3.控制好你的品种。
瞧，你的客人都是成功人士，有档次的朋友，你还愁卖货？有营销，不用推销。
我的客人公认，我这里的客人，都是品位的。(在我这里买东西，是光荣的。)
聪明的老板娘已经知道怎么做了。
好生意的老板娘，绝对会看"下三路"，即裤子，裙子，鞋子。
"下三路"做好了，外套、小衫，什么都卖得好。
裤子类型要全：小裤脚，直统，休闲宽裤脚，西裤，7.8.9分裤
关键词：稳，显瘦，
裤子
想知道什么样的裤子，裙子，鞋子最好卖吗？
夏天浅色为主，冬天深色为主，全年不息黑色。
每个裤子不能有太多类似款
关键词：线条，显瘦，含蓄的性感
鞋子要卖质量好的，绝对不能以次充好，瞒不了多久的。
说服客人换鞋子试裤子，你可以准备大量丝袜，客人感觉你服务好，又卫生。如果女人穿运动鞋试裤子，我担保你卖不成。
裙子
凡是版型好，年龄跨度大，简单大方的裤子，就是最好卖的。个性是客人的事，共性是你的事。裤子越个性，越难卖。
拿货时，两个款差不多，选一个。两个款都喜欢，就先做好一个，以后再做一个。为什么呢？有比较，就有高低。客人不愿意参加考试，你10个款她通常只挑一条，淘汰的9条，她以后兴趣不大。你提供5个款，她也是选一条。记住，不要太多款式，客人对裤子的款式要求不多的。淘汰供货商时，以版型为重点因素。
要想裤子裙子卖得好，店里配三宝 高跟鞋 中跟 平跟，冬天准备三种靴子。
我的经验是：38.39码好，方便客人穿脱。反正店里也卖鞋子，顺便给客人感觉一下。
除了鞋子外，其他衣物质量一般就行了。世界500强，不是靠质量第一赚钱的。
每个月的营业记录，你要保留，检讨。裤子裙子，销售额要占40％，才是正常的。
每次换季，裤子先行。遇上天气该冷不冷，该热不热时，影响生意不大。
男人穿衣向哥们看齐,女人就喜欢与众不同。
夏天卖好裤子,冬天卖好裙子.这话没有说错,因为好命的女人,夏天有空调,冬天有暖气.
女人喜欢七彩的世界，但喜欢犯重复购物的毛病。喜欢和决定采办是两回事。除了打底的毛衣，小衫颜色可以大胆一点，其他的，还是劝你稳一点。
外套 大衣 外衣我就不说了，大家都是高手。
集中你的进货款，只攻两三家，好处你很快会发现。1.退换货相对容易。2。不会一段时间没拿货，把市场上的旧款拿回来了 3，拖拖欠欠，以后好见面。加大营运资本。跟供应商的营业员搞好关系，有什么好卖的，你不会错过。4，不要把钱都丢在路费上了。你不时可以要求供应商发板给你，电话电脑拿货。
三 怎样与供应商打交道？
尽量固定两家。你如果满世界拿货，谁也不会照顾你。
什么样的供应商是好的供应商？
不要怕辛苦，见到缝纫机，才考虑长期合作。这是意大利商人的铁律。 1，有实力。
全国都一样，到处有人撺货。你拿的高级时装，分分就是地摊货，别处买来，换上自己商标的货。
你好好卖，也卖得脱，可是，赚600万可能要12年，不是6年。
有实力的供应商，有钱有人才，必定比你单打独斗赢的机会高。
2.有道德的公司
她们出门拿货，像是购物，关心的是款式，价钱，而不是找个有实力的战略伙伴。
找货源，好多老板娘都使错了劲。
好的供应商不会无端的对你热情的.他们知道,80%的利润是20%的客人发明的.在你没有展示你的商业价值前,越卖力的宣传,你越要提防.
可以侧面探听.供应商的营业员,做了多长时间,喜欢这份工作吗?销售经理是否过于热情.
你可以观察他们的客户,是喜气洋洋的,还是愁眉苦脸的.
中国某些商人,想的是扩大规模,马上圈钱,至于扩大渠道之后,自己有没有本事搞标准化经营,想都没想，收人根本不考核,只要你有钱.很多加盟店店主都不会做生意,生意会好?如果靠这种低级管理都能学会做生意,那什么叫10年难学个生意人？
我自己是不收加盟的.我不愿意背包袱.
卖我的货的人,必须是有本事的.好货还需会卖.
以前,我没开工厂,拿货卖的时候,谁要收我加盟费,我都懒得理他.有实力,你收来干什么?! 没钱,就是没实力!
我很反感加盟.加盟已经是垃圾了.加盟是洋玩意,但到了中国,变了味道.本国人的加盟,宗旨是便于管理,经营标准化,想圈钱的话,可以去上市,去集资,所以,他们更多的是想搞好经营.
货好? 哈哈,你自己卖嘛.
到处是好货.不是你货好,是我想寻个方便.
愿意一起做生意,就要信任。
是,没有那么高尚,我也不是帮客户赚钱,但我希望有本事的客户帮我赚钱。所以遇上有本事的,我会多方笼络,没想过用加盟，加盟费设限的。
3.小心订货
什么都叫你掏钱的,会真心帮你赚钱?
供应商有实力,不会太在意你有没有钱,关注的是你的能力.
总之,尽量拿现货.
骗人手段还有:哎呀,这个货不做了.你订50件吧,帮你做?!
回应的聪明点:我要大码3件,中码2件.有客人做,帮我搭上吧.有货通知我吧. 这样,真假,你都不会吃亏.
有的定货商黑,你要注意.样品可能是入口料.定货后,记住拿件样衣,或布版,在定货合同上写明货过失版,就不收货.如果他以各种借口推搪,你可以毫不犹豫走人.特殊是广东,杭州,包括所谓的外贸公司,你要小心了.
看好你的钱包.
如果不是你要的数量大的惊人,你就没必要订货.
有的供应商喜欢要求订货,你要小心了.他想的是转嫁风险.你开了大百货公司,订货就正常,如果不是,能不订就不订。
好的供应商会关心你的生意,这也是他们关注终端.次货调换爽快.舍得在终端投放告白.会不时征求你对货品的意见,会询问你经营的难度在哪里,问你最近生意怎样,有没有什么货物要补充.现在有热卖货品,要不要发板给你试一下.当然也会答应你,发板是可以退的.
我有个朋友,订货没拿样衣,布版,结果收了批垃圾.
4.富有责任感的供应商
你不必在意供应商本身的装修,他的简单反而体现了务实.好多供应商不知道服务终端,只顾自己装修,彰显实力.
我有个朋友向我报告,说找到一家有实力的供应商.我问他你怎么知道有实力,他回答:"哇,他们店子装修的好豪华呀!"
一旦有了好的供应商,你也要勉力.强强组合,双方要珍惜.
不要太计较,天天提要求.任何单方面的利益都不能长久.
好好卖货,这关系到你的发言权.展现你的价值越充分,你得到的好处越多.
看货篇：三分货 七分卖
2.不要光挑自己喜欢的,要挑多数人都接受的.
不是自己穿,要有生意头脑.自己赚了钱,大把好东西穿.
1.不要好看,只要好赚.
好看的货,在欧洲,不在广州. 重点看估计能卖多少钱.
3.供应商好是好,但货不是最漂亮的
衣服最漂亮的是婚纱.找个婚纱公司去吧。
4.我有品位.这些货看起来不怎样
除非你做国际名牌.有品位的妹妹,你会死的很难看的.有品位的妹妹,通常赔钱赚吆喝.
5.路费太贵,多拿点,摊平费用
什么年代了.搞清楚编号,方便补货就好了.电话电脑多用用.
6.我客源少,要天天新款
保持一定的风格很重要.扩大客源是根本.围着几个熟客转,你的货会越压越多,客越来越少.店里乱七八糟,断码货触目皆是.
好销的款,争取多卖,这是市场肯定了的货,消费者买后满意度高,做熟客的机会大增.反而新货有新货的风险.
好卖的货.我下手重通常会拿几十件.时常检查码数是否需要补齐,要不要增加颜色.
7.我经常给电话,只补一两件,供应商会不会瞧不起?
放心,好的供应商会欣赏你的谨慎的.至少,你不会给他带来大麻烦.如果你致电要退货20件30件,他才烦.
8.供应商有些过分的要求,我能拒绝吗?
拒绝.商人的特质,就是保障自己的利益，你是商人嘛。如果我是一个批发商,我会尊重有分量的对手.
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Have a good barbeque, learn to fix your car, enjoy those fine Brazilian women, and the spirit of hospitality and joyfulness that pervades Brazil ... from the favelas to the skyscrapers of Sao Paulo.
Why do these delusional Davy Crockett fantasies persist here on CFN? The IRS does not distinguish between a waiter, doctor, mechanic, pole dancer, door-to-door salesmen or the "professional tradesmen". And sporting a dead raccoon on your head and leather moccasins on your feet does not mean you "get to keep everything you make" either.
The ideology of political parties is "irrelevant" but somehow Daniel Boone and Jim Bridger are alive and kicking!
Thanks for the chuckle.
Why would anyone want to "keep everything you make"?
It would be a lonely and sad existence if you did not share your wealth happily. I fill out my 1040 EZ form with joy and the government always gives me my money back. They got to use it, society benefited, all is well.
。我拿货也有懊悔的时候。我会总结教训，
每天看见很多人关心找货源，似乎有了好的货源，生意就有了保障。但刚开始，其切实商店里，
举例 ；我拿20元一件小衫。10件。
最不主要的就是货源。俗话说,三分货，七分卖。这个时代，记住，不选自己爱的，只选轻易甩的。
全国都一样，到处有人撺货。你拿的高等古装，分分钟是地摊货，别处买来，换上自己商标的货。
衣服最漂亮的是婚纱.找个婚纱公司??
你们百分之一百会猜错。
东扯西拉的，真是书到用时方恨少
你好好卖，也卖得脱，然而，赚600万可能要12年，不是6年。
我跑遍了所有的市场，经由再三筛选，选定两家批发商。
如果不是你要的数目大的惊人,你就没必要订货.
供应商有实力,不会太在意你有没有钱,关注的是你的才能.
你们会觉得势利眼？错。
看货篇：三分货 七分卖
不是夸口，客人冲着我的热忱来的，熟客一大堆。最高纪录，一天营业额3000多，最少要赚2000多。
穿起来不会舒畅
客人关注了一件衣物后，全身名牌的我会由衷惊叹她的品位，在她买衣服的进程中，我还会求教他还有什么更好的奇思妙想。夸她应当吃时尚这碗饭。我是大大不如的。
我卖货。是这样的。2000左右的衣服，不要报价。拿个盘算机打给她看，记住，看着她的眼睛。
找货不如找伴。
卖便宜货，要热情，
无意间在一个论坛里看到的,感到堪称作服装生意进货经典。
心里一万个理由去否认自己的失败，不会迁怒于我的---她晓得我不是行家。
以版型为重点因素。但凡版型好，年纪跨度大，简单慷慨的裤子，就是最好卖的。个性是客人的事，
有良多人进货，喜欢东拿西拿，自己感到目光好，拿货象"血拼"，象购物。我不会。
1，有实力。不要怕辛苦，见到缝纫机，才斟酌长期配合。这是意大利商人的铁律。
遇上是孤寒的客人，你要全力以赴：好的对手，是老师。
有友人问我，你贵货也做，便宜货也做，为什么？
3.供应商好是好,但货不是最美丽的
你供给5个款，她也是选一条。记住，不要太多款式，客人对裤子的格式请求不多的。淘汰供货商时，
2.卖货不是争辩
好的供应商不会无真个对你热情的.他们知道,80%的利润是20%的客人发明的.在你没有展现你的贸易价值前,越卖命的宣扬,你越要防备.
以前,我没动工厂,拿货卖的时候,谁要收我加盟费,我都麻烦理他.有实力,你收来干什么?!没钱,就是没实力!
不要太计较,每天提要求.任何单方面的好处都不能久长.
二 卖货定律
卖廉价货，拉车仔进货，卖贵货，进出是宝马。
女人喜欢七彩的世界，但喜欢犯反复购物的弊病。喜欢和决议购置事两回事。除了打底的毛衣，
裤子类型要全：小裤脚，直统，休闲宽裤脚，西裤，7.8.9分裤
我的教训是：38.39码好，方便客人穿脱。反正店里也卖鞋子，顺便给客人感觉一下。
我自己是不收加盟的.我不愿意背累赘.
承诺价钱要保密。承诺下次不要给这么低，要多关心我们。朋友来了要多帮我们说说好话。
就在我卖13块一件小衫的时候，我身上穿的是如假包换的香奈尔。当年PRADA.D&G.我都不玩了。
一旦有了好的供应商,你也要尽力.强强组合,双方要爱护.
你们中一定也有这样的人：喜欢买，多于喜欢穿。
现在我的生意不错，货很贵，也卖得好。诚实说，穿过那么多好东西，这时装也知道个七七八八。
我觉得"正走在这条路上"，拼命倾销的是自己对服装的懂得，其实，女人们需要的只是心里满意。
有什么好卖的，你不会错过。4，不要把钱都丢在路费上了。你不时可以要求供应商发板给你，电话电脑拿货。
好的供应商会关怀你的生意,这也是他们关注终端.次货更换爽直.舍得在终端投放广告.会不断征求你对货品的看法,会讯问你经营的难度在哪里,问你最近生意怎么样,有不什么货物要弥补.现在有热卖货品,要不要发板给你试一下.
压服客人换鞋子试裤子，你可以预备大批丝袜，客人感觉你服务好，又卫生。如果女人穿活动鞋试裤子，
我教导他们，要做无中生有的人。
为什么女人会不停的购物？真的会买衣服的人,会经常买衣服吗？多数是裤子裙子没配好，
不然的话，就算这次买成了。你这里也不会是她想常常来的处所。
是,没有那么高贵,我也不是帮客户赚钱,但我盼望有本事的客户帮我赚钱,所以遇上有本事的,
共性是你的事。裤子越个性，越难卖。
每次换季，裤子先行。遇上气象该冷不冷，该热不热时，影响生意不大。
我不喜欢这上面的扣子，太咋眼 好生意的老板娘，绝对会看"下三路"，即裤子，裙子，鞋子。
想知道什么样的裤子，裙子，鞋子最好卖吗？
到处是好货.不是你货好,是我想寻个方便.
目前不是很须要，但留着以后小搭小配还可以。价格吗，穿的出去，反正又不贵。便宜了，不会穿。
我那时候的信心：垃圾都可以参加商品流畅，何况我卖的是新衣服!
聪明的老板娘已经知道怎么做了。
30％善于挑裙子(连衣裙除外)。
这里是她的乐园。她还会呼朋唤友，而且帮你卖货。她想更多的人都知道，全身名牌的我，都是她的粉丝。
你不用在意供应商自身的装修,他的简略反而体现了求实.好多供应商不知道服务终端,只顾自己装修,彰显实力.
2.有道德的公司
好版我也跟得上，坏版我就主意换，压货少不说，家里作风绝对同一，不会乌七八糟，搭配起来一条路。
主旨是便于管理,经营尺度化,想圈钱的话,可以去上市,去集资,所以,他们更多的是想搞好经营.中国某些商人,想的是扩大范围,立刻圈钱,至于扩展渠道之后,自己有没有本事搞标准化经营,想都没想.收人基本不考察,只要你有钱.许多加盟店店主都不会做生意,生意会好?假如靠这种初级治理都能学会做生意,那什么叫10年难学个生意人!
来看看：
如果他以各种借口推搪,你可以绝不迟疑走人.特殊是广东,杭州,包含所谓的外贸公司,你要小心了.
为什么？跟庄！眼力好，不如跟旺家。
当然，我喜欢扎堆，千万别搞独自一店的地方，绝路一条，不是节俭房钱，是挥霍时间。
4.富有义务感的供应商
说到这里，你们会想，我是个什么样的人呢！
小衫色彩能够勇敢一点，其他的，还是劝你稳一点。
那时，你的一个热情微笑，将使很多灾搞的女人，乖乖的成为你的熟客。
有比拟，就有高下。客人不乐意加入测验，你10个款她通常只挑一条，淘汰的9条，她以后兴致不大。
卖我的货的人,必需是有本领的.好货还需会卖.
好好卖货,这关联到你的发言权.展示你的价值越充足,你得到的利益越多.
大家要双赢嘛。你已经是我们的VIP了。
我很恶感加盟.加盟已经是垃圾了.加盟是洋玩意,但到了中国,变了滋味.本国人的加盟,
骗人手腕还有:哎呀,这个货不做了.你定50件吧,帮你做?!
裙子
当然也会许可你,发板是可以退的.
我会这样处置的。
是啊，您是内行。不过好洗好晒，容易打理。不需要干洗。
瞧，你的客人都是胜利人士，有档次的朋友，你还愁卖货？有营销，不必推销。
我有个朋友,订货没拿样衣,布版,结果收了批垃圾.
她认为你的货不值。
我觉得做衣服是农活，急不来的。
但他们从没有想到这一点，她们会满世界找一件适合的衣服，他们总觉得自己还差一件衣服。
有的定货商黑,你要留神.样品可能是入口料.定货后,记住拿件样衣,或布版,在定货合同上写明货错误版,就不收货.
有人会说我守两年会旺的，两年分分钟耽误你赚几十万。
没有说错,
我后来开了10多家店，共做了6家批发商的货。我迟到早换，年底就没压什么货。
是啊是啊。不外省得配项链了。这里有个手镯。一个色系的。你家里肯定一大堆手镯。
卖贵货，要冷一点。
除了鞋子外，其余衣物资量个别就行了。世界500强，不是靠品质第一赚钱的。
"下三路"做好了，外套 小衫 什么都卖得好。
什么都叫你掏钱的,会真心帮你赚钱?
我的客人公认，我这里的客人，都是品位的。(在我这里买东西，是光彩的。)
除非你做国际名牌.有品位的妹妹,你会逝世的很丢脸的.有品位的妹妹,通常赔钱赚吆喝.
他们就全卖贵货色。
一 货源
每一个女人，穿衣都有本人一套，告知你个机密：她们100％擅长挑衣服。50％擅长挑裤子。
症结词：线条，显瘦，蕴藉的性感
做生意实在用不了多少钱的。
我是一个批发商,我尊敬有分量的对手.
裤子
好卖的货.我下手重通常会拿几十件.时常检讨码数是否需要补齐,要不要增长颜色.
1.每个女人都会认为自己穿衣有一套，你不要假冒参谋，形象领导。(以为自己穿衣装束不在行的，不会常常买衣服) 集中你的进货款，只攻两三家，好处你很快会发现。1.退换货相对容易。2。不会一段时间没拿货，
不信你试一试－－ 20块?太贵太贵！10块好了，我买给家里保姆穿的！！！
我挖了个送快餐的女孩，600元工资，到我这里1500，她真做到了销售大于一切。我们这个市场，
5.路费太贵,多拿点,摊平用度
成果往往是：一件毛衣，一个手镯，一条裤子。 (她还告诉咱们应该配条什么裤子。为了宣示她的准确，又买了条裤子。)
外套 大衣 外衣我就不说了，大家都是高手。
结果是：我很多客人没事的时候，都喜欢带上老公或男朋友来走走，顺便买上几件，展示一下自己购物的精明。
卖便宜货跟卖贵货是不一样的。
我集中两家拿，熟了是大客。别人看不到的新版，我能拿，再熟了，开端退退换换。
我有个朋友向我讲演,说找到一家有实力的供应商.我问他你怎么知道有实力,他答复:"哇,他们店子装修的好奢华呀!"
释怀,好的供应商会观赏你的谨严的.至少,你不会给他带来大麻烦.
千万不要呶呶不休的教客人搭配。女人自尊心大于所有，她不会找个地方犯傻给你看的。
很多情形是，客人发明在我这里买过的一件衣服，贵了别人很多。但她们会保护自己的威望。
总之,尽量拿现货.
每个裤子不能有太多相似款
如果你致电要退货20件30件,他才烦.
好命的女人,夏天有空调,冬天有暖气.
3.警惕订货
我当初也做批发。我不拉人加盟。我又不是没钱，拉100人加盟，要是100个都不会卖货，
1.不要好看,只有好赚.
要想裤子裙子卖得好，店里配三宝 高跟鞋 中跟 平跟，冬天筹备三种靴子。
拿货时，两个款差未几，选一个。两个款都喜欢，就先做好一个，当前再做一个。为什么呢？
6.我客源少,要每天新款
什么年代了.搞明白编号,便利补货就好了.电话电脑多用用.
以己之长，攻其之短。
自己只是礼貌就够了。如果她是这个花费层的，她感觉她要证实给你看。女人生成是天敌，太热情了。
什么样的供应商是好的供应商？
8.供应商有些过火的要求,我能拒绝吗?
4个月后，第二个店开张了。
卖散货好。赚得多，没人管，除非卖名牌，名牌会拉你加盟？
找货源，好多老板娘使错了劲。
我告诉你：衣服的价值，在于卖的过程。有多少顾客，是缺衣服穿的？女人买衣服，在于享受买的过程。
老板娘们拿货，爱好重点在外套上。外套的竞争最大，难看之外，还有更好看的不说，
有实力的供应商，有钱有人才，一定比你单打独斗赢的机遇高。
买这些价位衣服的女人，是不会跟你当真的，他们只是觉得不贵，玩玩，可能不是很好，
大家可能注意到，我重复强调自己穿的是名牌。不要鄙视，这是营销。
但我还是把它当最美的衣服推销。
我的商店，是无数女人的梦工厂，我贩卖幻想，我的商品是成功感，自卑感。
讨价还价的要点，是一个又一个的交流前提，比喻说买多两件，或者带上配饰，或者许诺带朋友来。
女人很奇异吧。当他觉得克服了一个成功的人(我全身名牌)，她感觉自己更成功。两个成功的人物的话题，绝对不是讨价还价的区区100.200.(客人会想：我是成功的人。100.200不是问题,淘宝商城。)
好看的货,在欧洲,不在广州. 重点看估量能卖多少钱.
有的供应商喜欢要求订货,你要当心了.他想的是转嫁危险.你开了大百货公司,定货就正常,如果不是,能不定就不定.
三 怎么与供应商打交道？
可能有人说了：真黑。
这面料不好
赶上的客人还都是内行，都有自己一套，生意难做？自己检讨一下吧。
就是你作为老板娘一定要装扮的漂英俊亮，如果你想生意好。而且店内的货只能配搭一点，自己决不要穿版，那是营业员的事。你要穿得有品位，你店里衣服都有档次。清楚没有，尽量穿大大的名牌，作为你的战衣。
夏天卖好裤子,冬天卖好裙子.
回应的聪慧点:我要大码3件,中码2件.有客人做,帮我搭上吧.有货告诉我吧. 这样,虚实,你都不会吃亏.
看好你的钱包.
在最顶级的专卖店，你们感觉到那客气后面的一点冷淡吗？！
要害词：稳，显瘦，
她们出门拿货，象购物，关心的是款式，价钱，而不是找个有实力的策略搭档。
把市场上的旧款拿回来了 3，拖拖欠欠，以后好会晤。加大营运资本。跟供应商的营业员搞好关系，
我会多方拉拢,没想过用加盟.加盟费设限的.
那不是拉了100个包袱。 我也同情那些小店，什么都要人家拿一大堆，人家怎么卖。
我开始调剂拿货方式了。
好销的款,争夺多卖,这是市场确定了的货,消费者买后满足度高,做熟客的机会大增.反而新货有新货的风险.
熟客很重要，回首的生意比重很大。
4.我有品位.这些货看起来不怎么样 每个月的营业记载，你要保存，检查。裤子裙子，销售额要占40％，才是畸形的。
货好? 哈哈,你自己卖嘛.
3.把持好你的种类。
女人只对男人忠心，男人才对品牌忠心。我什么好牌子都想试，究竟消费还没到试过千山万水的档次,淘宝网女装秋装。
客人有了上帝的感觉，就会成为你的奴隶。
你是商人。你要有商人的素质。随便的妥协，是噩梦的开始。你这次爽快少50，他下次争取100.
我担保你卖不成。
我现在不穿名牌了。错了，不是一定要求名牌了。
好，对是 营业员宝贝。
男人穿衣向哥们看齐,女人就喜欢不同凡响
2.不要光挑自己喜欢的,要挑多数人都接收的.
很多人没有保持。做了便宜货，就注定劳忙碌碌了，开头容易，永远辛劳。犹太人是最会做生意的，、
卖贵货，笑得越少越好，即便是光顾了很屡次的顾客，也是客气客气，再客气。
不是自己穿,要有生意脑筋.自己赚了钱,大把好东西穿.
我还有另外播种：这6年间，我手下营业员有20多人创业，20多个老板娘。他们明确了，
你的形象，就是商店的形象，你表示的档次，就是货的档次。客人乐意跟你做朋友，当然你要够谦逊，能跟你做朋友，她会觉得自己有档次。
1件卖了145元，1件80元，剩下的，天天要求自己无论如何卖一件。务必高于80元。
坚持必定的风格很重要.扩大客源是根本.围着多少个熟客转,你会货越压越多,客越来越少.店里乱七八招,断码货亘古未有.
最低700，也有利润400多点。
但贵货要守。是真的。你不能守6个月到10个月，就不要做。但一年后就不累了。会越坐越旺，
当年很多品牌拉我加盟。我素来不干。满街的货都能卖，干嘛要把运气交给你，我又不是不会做生意。
尽量固定两家。你如果满世界拿货，谁也不会照料你。
鞋子要卖质量好的，相对不能以次充好，瞒不了多久的。
1500是公道工资(当时)，但要熟手。我偏不信，我信任豪情。
夏天浅色为主，冬天深色为主，全年一直玄色。
我的强项是销售，我不会在拿货上延误的。我不停的赚钱，开店，18个月，共开4家。因为我什么都尽量卖，批发商都被我激动了。时常赊销给我，流动资金大大增添。
其实是看店址来的。
隔壁左右，卖什么档次，你要照跟。通凡人流量大，你就要做量。没什么人的地方，要做贵货。
可以侧面探听.供应商的营业员,做了多长时光,喜欢这份工作吗?销售经理是否过于热情.
谢绝.商人的特质,就是保障自己的利益. 你是商人吗?
卖1000一件的，30% 是300.
违心一起做生意,就要信赖
7.我常常给电话,只补一两件,供给商会不会瞧不起?
你可以察看他们的客户,是喜气洋洋的,还是愁眉不展的.
对呀。穿之前洗洗。讲求的美女们新衣服通常洗过才穿的。你喜欢红色仍是绿色？
看看那些品位妹妹拿的货，我笑死了。
"...delusional Davy Crockett fantasies..."
-bs-
Wow, Buck, try to use that imagination of yours for something besides art, why don't you?
I know a blacksmith who turns old springs and scrap iron, worth $7.00/hundredweight - into custom iron work, worth probably $1500+ per hundredweight, for which he is always paid cash.
Note to IRS agents monitoring this webspace; I have no knowledge of the man's tax situation. Plus, he can deduct small lumps of anthracite coal as expenses.
That said, if he reports all of his income, he is c.r.a.z.y.
And he does not look crazy to me.
He looks like the sort of guy I'd like to have around, just in case a worst case scenario ever materializes.
The blacksmith is just one example.
Do you think all of the people committing food stamp and AFDC fraud are reporting all of their income, Buck? They don't deduct their coonskin hats, I'm pretty well certain.
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1 十年前,陈虻找我的时候,原话是说,我们要给白岩朔僖一个女搭档.我当时还没想换工做,陈虻说你来我们年会玩玩吧,也睹见大家.这年年会是白岩松掌管的,象他书里写的,"以恶搞和折磨领导"为主题,我跟台长分一组,白问"1919年五四运动收生在什么季节?" 台长按钮抢答"冬季"------大概他脑子闪现的都是系围巾的男女群雕.于是被大笑着羞辱一番,最后好象钱包也被抢掉了,一撒,地面中都是现金.我当时觉得,这个地方有点意思.晚上有同事挨电话来,声音低沉"岩松要跟你谈谈" 我一往,一屋子男同讲,搞得跟口试一样.后来我才知讲,实在瞅律于岩松这个人什么都彪悍,便是不习气跟女生单独讲话.一晚上他就问了我两个题目,问"你喜欢谁的音乐?" 我好象说的是平克弗洛依德.他问"华人的呢?" "罗大佑" 就这两个,他没再问什么题目,只说了一句"这是条很长的讲,你要作好长跑的预备" 2 我刚到连线,没有任何新闻经验,日兹砘好过.现在想起来,他当时是制片人,压力比谁都大,也不能对我欲速不达,别人笑我的时候,他心里估计比谁都难受.有次我穿裙子到办公室,他叫我过往,说"回往把医猖换了" 当时我不理解他,后来明白他是怕我柔弱,怕我不能在这个腥烈的战场上保存. 有一阵子我贯串连接尾评论都不会写了,怎么写都通不过,领导等着审,我瞪着眼坐在桌前,他进来递给我一张纸,是他?**倚吹拇〈?我惭愧又感动,一直留着这张纸. 他一直不安慰我,只要一次深夜,看我还坐在办公室剪电影,进来对我说了一句,"人们号称最幸福的岁月实在往
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十年前,陈虻找我的时辰,本话是说,咱们要给黑岩松找一个女错误.
我这时借没想换事情,陈虻说你来我们年会玩玩吧,也见见各人.
这年年会是白岩松主持的,象他书里写的,"以恶搞和熬煎领导"为主题,我跟台长分一组,白问"1919年五四运动收生在什么时节?" 台长按钮抢答"冬季"------大概他脑子闪现的都是系围巾的男女群雕.因而被大笑着羞宠一番,最后好象钱包也被抢掉了,一撒,地面中都是现金.
,上面印着仓央嘉措的诗"一个人需要隐蔽几多秘稀,能力巧妙地度过末生,这佛光闪闪的高原,三步两步就是天堂,却仍有这么多人,因苦衷太重,而走不动" 身为同事,看这书时最震动我的,是他谦腔没有说出的话. 他曾以年老人的狂狷,写过《盼看年老》,明天他四十两岁,鬓脚灰白,人生的重背实在地压在肩上.我们未几扳谈,只每一年秋季,新奇的外受羊肉来了,他就叫上***个老汉子,在他家散一次.有次喝了点儿酒,看台湾葡谱近歌三十年的演唱会.他喜欢胡德妇,一架钢琴,唱《匆匆》, "初看秋花红,转瞬已成冬,匆匆,匆匆,一年老易又到尾,时光逝往无影踪hh促,匆匆,莫比及了止境,枉叹此止成空hh" 他自言自语"我恨不能给他跪下".我回首看到他泪光闪闪.这是一条最悠远的路,以他的资格声誉,本能够选择更轻易的标的目的,但他没有撤退,也没有拐直,只是往前走来.
我其时感到,那个处所有面意义.
晚上有同事挨电话来,声音低沉"岩松要跟你谈谈" 我一往,一屋子男同讲,搞得跟口试一样.后来我才知道,实在视律于岩松这个人什么都彪悍,就是不习惯跟女生单独讲话.
一夜他就问了我两个题目,问"你喜哀谁的音乐?" 我好象说的是仄克弗洛依德.他问"华人的呢?" "罗年夜佑" 就这两个,他没再问甚么成绩,只说了一句"这是条很少的路,你要做好欠跑的筹备"
1 十年前,陈虻找我的时候,原话是说,我们要给白岩松找一个女搭档.我当时还没想换工作,陈虻说你来我们年会玩玩吧,也见见大家.那年年会是白岩松主持的,象他书里写的,"以恶搞和折磨领导"为主题,我跟台长分一组,白问"1919年五四运动收生在什么季节?" 台长按钮抢答"冬季"------大概他脑子闪现的都是系围巾的男女群雕.于是被大笑着羞辱一番,最后好象钱包也被抢掉了,一撒,地面中都是现金.我当时觉得,这个地方有点意思.晚上有同事挨电话来,声音低沉"岩松要跟你谈谈" 我一往,一屋子男同道,搞得跟口试一样.后来我才知道,实在视律于岩松这个人什么都彪悍,就是不习惯跟女生单独讲话.一晚上他就问了我两个题目,问"你喜欢谁的音乐?" 我好象说的是平克弗洛依德.他问"华人的呢?" "罗大佑" 就这两个,他没再问什么题目,只说了一句"这是条很长的路,你要作好长跑的预备" 2 我刚到连线,没有任何新闻经验,日兹砘好过.现在想起来,他当时是制片人,压力比谁都大,也不能对我适得其反,别人笑我的时候,他心里估计比谁都难受.有次我穿裙子到办公室,他叫我过往,说"回往把衣服换了" 当时我不理解他,后来明白他是怕我柔弱,怕我不能在这个腥烈的战场上生计. 有一阵子我保持尾评论都不会写了,怎么写都通不过,领导等着审,我瞪着眼坐在桌前,他进来递给我一张纸,是他?**倚吹拇〈?我惭愧又感动,一直留着那张纸. 他一直不安慰我,只要一次深夜,看我还坐在办公室剪电影,进来对我说了一句,"人们号称最幸福的岁月实在往
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我刚到连线,没有任何新闻经验,日子欠好过.
当初想起来,他事先是造片人,压力比谁都大,也不克不及对我适得其反,他人笑我的时刻,贰心里估量比谁都难受.
1 十年前,陈虻找我的时候,原话是说,我们要给白岩松找一个女搭档.我当时还没想换工作,陈虻说你来我们年会玩玩吧,也见见人人.那年年会是白岩松主持的,象他书里写的,"以恶搞和合磨领导"为主题,我跟台长分一组,白问"1919年五四运动收生在什么季节?" 台长按钮抢答"冬季"------大概他脑子闪现的都是系围巾的男女群雕.于是被大笑着羞辱一番,最后好象钱包也被抢掉了,一撒,地面中都是现金.我当时觉得,这个地方有点意思.早上有同事打电话来,声音低沉"岩松要跟你谈谈" 我一往,一屋子男同道,搞得跟口试一样.后来我才知道,实在视律于岩松这个人什么都彪悍,就是不习惯跟女生单独讲话.一晚上他就问了我两个题目,问"你喜欢谁的音乐?" 我好象说的是平克弗洛依德.他问"华人的呢?" "罗大佑" 就这两个,他没再问什么题目,只说了一句"这是条很长的路,你要作好长跑的预备" 2 我刚到连线,没有任何新闻经验,日兹砘好过.现在想起来,他当时是制片人,压力比谁都大,也不能对我揠苗助长,别人笑我的时候,他心里估计比谁都难受.有次我穿裙子到办公室,他叫我过往,说"回往把衣服换了" 当时我不理解他,后来明白他是怕我柔强,怕我不能在这个腥烈的战场上生活. 有一阵子我贯串连接尾评论都不会写了,怎样写都通不过,领导等着审,我瞪着眼坐在桌前,他进来递给我一张纸,是他?**倚吹拇〈?我羞愧又感动,一直留着那张纸. 他一直不安慰我,只要一次深夜,看我还坐在办公室剪电影,进来对我说了一句,"人们号称最幸福的岁月实在往
有次我穿裙子到办公室,他叫我过往,说"回往把衣服换了" 当时我不睬解他,后来明确他是怕我柔弱,怕我不能在这个腥烈的疆场上生活生活.
有一阵子我连结尾评论都不会写了,怎么写都通不过,领导等着审,我瞪着眼坐在桌前,他进来递给我一张纸,是他?**倚吹拇〈?我惭愧又感动,一直留着那张纸.
他一直不安慰我,只要一次深夜,看我还坐在办公室剪电影,进来对我说了一句,"人们号称最幸福的岁月实在经常是最苦楚的,只不过回想起来十贩爬好"
1 十年前,陈虻找我的时候,原话是说,我们要给白岩松找一个女搭档.我当时还没想换工作,陈虻说你来我们年会玩玩吧,也见见大家.那年年会是白岩松主持的,象他书里写的,"以恶搞和折磨领导"为主题,我跟台长分一组,白问"1919年五四运动发生在什么季节?" 台长按钮抢答"冬季"------大概他脑子闪现的都是系围巾的男女群雕.于是被大笑着羞辱一番,最后好象钱包也被抢掉了,一撒,地面中都是现金.我当时觉得,这个地方有点意思.晚上有同事打电话来,声音低沉"岩松要跟你谈谈" 我一往,一屋子男同道,搞得跟口试一样.后来我才知道,实在是由于岩松这个人什么都彪悍,就是不习惯跟女生单独讲话.一晚上他就问了我两个题目,问"你喜欢谁的音乐?" 我好象说的是平克弗洛依德.他问"华人的呢?" "罗大佑" 就这两个,他没再问什么题目,只说了一句"这是条很长的路,你要作好长跑的预备" 2 我刚到连线,没有任何新闻经验,日兹砘好过.现在想起来,他当时是制片人,压力比谁都大,也不能对我揠苗助长,别人笑我的时候,他心里估计比谁都难受.有次我穿裙子到办公室,他叫我过往,说"回往把衣服换了" 当时我不理解他,后来明白他是怕我柔弱,怕我不能在这个腥烈的战场上生活生活. 有一阵子我连末端评论都不会写了,怎么写都通不过,领导等着审,我瞪着眼坐在桌前,他进来递给我一张纸,是他?**倚吹拇〈?我惭愧又感动,一直留着那张纸. 他一直不安慰我,只有一次深夜,看我还坐在办公室剪电影,进来对我说了一句,"人们号称最幸福的岁月实在往
3
后来我往了考察,跟他会晤很少,几年中评论局部分合开,不过很多分开的人钥匙串上,都是挂着新闻评论部的小方铜牌,磨得粗光铮明. 2008年会是我主持的,阿谁年会只剩下一个简单流程了,轮到岩松下台讲话,他就说了几句话,此中一句是"我们虔诚的是新闻,不是任何领导" 底下坐的都是领导,静静无声.
4
这多少年,他做时评,天天在新闻的风口浪尖上.
有人说,说这些做吗,就算没有危险,有什么意思.
他在书里写到他的节那味长作1十1》,"多简略的名字,1十1=2,谁都晓得,但情况稍有转变,仅仅是有益否图,便会在一霎时,让相当多的人脸不白心不跳天脱心而出1十1=3." 以是他说的保卫知识,实际上是要用千斤之力往扭住的.
1 十年前,陈虻找我的时辰,原话是说,我们要给白岩松找一个女拆档.我当时还没想换工作,陈虻说你来我们年会玩玩吧,也见见大师.那年年会是白岩松主持的,象他书里写的,"以恶搞跟熬煎引导"为主题,我跟台长分一组,白问"1919年五四活动产生在什么季节?" 台长按钮抢问"夏季"------或许他尾脑闪现的都是系围巾的男女群雕.因而被大笑着荣辱一番,最后好象钱包也被抢失落了,一洒,天空中都是现金.我当时觉得,这个地方有点意思.早晨有共事挨德律风来,声音长沉"岩松要跟你谈道" 我一往,一屋子男同道,搞得跟口试一样.后来我才知讲,实在是果为岩松这小我公家甚么都彪悍,就是不风俗跟女死独自发言.一夜他就问了我两个题目,问"你喜欢谁的音乐?" 我好象说的是平克弗洛依德.他问"华人的呢?" "罗大佑" 就这两个,他没再问什么题目,只说了一句"这是条很长的路,你要作好长跑的预备" 2 我刚到连线,不任何新闻教训,日子欠好过.现在想起来,他当时是制片人,压力比谁都大,也不克不及对我欲速不达,他人笑我的时分,贰心里估计比谁都难受.有次我脱裙子到办公室,他叫我自前,说"回往把衣服换了" 当时我不睬解他,厥后清楚他是怕我纤弱,怕我不能在这个腥烈的疆场上保存. 有一阵子我保持尾批评都不会写了,怎样写都通不过,发导等着审,我瞪着眼坐在桌前,他进来递给我一张纸,是他?**倚吹拇〈?我愧疚又冲动,始末留着那张纸. 他一曲不抚慰我,只要一次深夜,看我还坐在办公室剪电影,出往对我说了一句,"人们号称最幸运的光阳其真往
他正在书里说到爱好曾国藩,出细说,我大略懂得一点,由于念要有所扶植的人,多数是象蔡元培说的锅里的小鱼,双方煎,哪圆皆没有谄谀,守旧派觉得你冒进,激进派以为你陈腐.惟有苦苦支持.
我没听他懊丧抱怨过,我碰到事的时间,他也不安慰,就在北院的转达室里放一个袋子,让人留给我,外里装着书,另有十几本纯志,都是艺术方面的.我理解他的意思,他盼看什么都不要影响到性命的歉美.
岩松妈妈七十多岁了,我有次睹她,老人家看我一会女,说,老看您节目,别让你妈担忧.而后道,"我天天看电视,也替岩紧揪着古道热肠."
这话我听了外表挺易受,所以有时刻也想劝劝他.他就一句话,"有人在前尾,淘宝商城,你们也好走些"
5
他这本新书出书,托人转我一本,上面写"柴静:这一站,幸祸".
我打开扉页,上里印着仓央嘉措的诗"一小我须要暗躲几机密,才做奇妙地度过毕生,这佛光闪闪的下原,三步两步即是天国,却仍有那末多人,因苦衷太重,而走不动"
身为同事,看这书时最触动我的,是他满腔没有说出的话.
他已经以年轻人的狂狷,写过《渴看年老》,本日他四十二岁,鬓脚灰白,人生的重负实实地压在肩上.我们未几攀谈,只每一年秋日,新陈的内蒙羊肉来了,他就叫上***个老汉子,在他家聚一次.有次喝了点儿酒,看台湾平易近歌三十年的演唱会.他喜欢胡德夫,一架钢琴,唱《匆匆》, "初看春花红,转眼已成冬,匆匆,匆匆,一年轻易又到尾,时光逝往无影踪hh匆匆,匆匆,莫等到了尽尾,枉叹此行成空hh" 他喃喃自语"我恨不能给他跪下".我回头看到他泪光闪闪.
这是一条最远近的路,以他的资历声视,本否以取舍更轻易的偏向,但他没有后退,也没有拐弯,只是往前走往.
听听往是最疼痛的,只不过回忆起来无比美好" 3 后来我往了调查,跟他见面很少,几年中评论部分分合合,不过很多离开的人钥匙串上,都是挂着新闻评论部的小方铜牌,磨得精光铮亮. 2008年会是我主持的,谁人年会只剩下一个简单流程了,轮到岩松上台谈话,他就说了几句话,个中一句是"我们忠实的是新闻,不是任何领导" 底下坐的都是领导,悄然无声. 4 这几年,他做时评,天天在新闻的风口浪尖上.有人说,说这些做嘛,就算没有风险,有什么意义. 他在书里写到他的节目《新闻1十1》,"多简单的名字,1十1=2,谁都知道,但情况稍有改变,仅仅是有益可图,就会在一瞬间,让相当多的人脸不红心不跳地脱口而出1十1=3." 所以他说的保卫常识,实在是要用千斤之力来扭住的. 他在书里说到喜欢曾国藩,没细说,我大概理解一点,由于想要有所建立的人,多半是象蔡元培说的锅里的小鱼,双方煎,哪方都不讨好,守旧派觉得你冒进,激进派觉得你迂腐.惟有苦苦收撑. 我没听他丧气抱怨过,我逢到事的时候,淘宝网时尚女装,他也不安慰,就在南院的传达室里放一个袋子,让人留给我,里面装着书,还有十几本杂志,都是艺术方面的.我理解他的意思,他愿看什么都不要影响到生命的丰美. 岩松妈妈七十多岁了,我有次见她,老人家看我一会儿,说,老看你节目,别让你妈担心.然后说,"我天天看电视,也替岩松揪着心." 这话我听了心里挺难受,所以奇然候也想劝劝他.他就一句话,"有人在前头,你们也好走些" 5 他这本新书出书,托人转我一本,上面写"柴静:这一站,幸福". 我翻开扉页
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I just got the itch to get some blacksmith's tools.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/tls/3041042770.html
Take a look at the above.
WSP7, you will get a kick out of it.
$1.50 per pound - get 'em while they're hot!
Ozone said:
This is what I've observed too.
Very few in this doomed republic seem to understand what "needs" are anymore. The way the majority of us live is not based on needs whatsoever; it's based on [energy] gluttony. It pushes all the buttons of bodily contentment and appetite satiation that couldn't possibly be dreamt of by kings in the past.
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Well said, O3, well said. I've been on dating sites since January and it amazes me how many "princesses" on these sites have champagne tastes and a beer wallet. They're often "caregivers" (which pays around $9/hour) who have high-end cellphone plans and huge gas-guzzling cars but they want to boo-hoo endlessly about how life is "mistreating" them. I'm sure the same is true of the guys on those sites but I'm not on 'em to pick up guys. :-)
I don't know which is worse ... the rank stupidity of the rank-and-file American of 2012 or the idiocy of their lifestyles. I'm in far better shape than these women yet I have a 15-year-old Honda Civic (with only 87,000 miles on it) and I've got a bottom-of-the-barrel cellphone because that's all I **need**.
You are dead on the money about Americans being out of touch with what a NEED is but in the next decade they're going to learn plenty about that. I'm a pretty empathetic guy about the struggles of working Americans but I have to admit that I've developed more than a little bit of schadenfreude in recent months when I see how they actually LIVE.
E.
I have to admit that I've developed more than a little bit of schadenfreude in recent months when I see how they actually LIVE.
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I respect this, as it is your experience.
Don't give up. There is a princess out there for you, someone who shares your attitude toward life.
Thanks for the chuckle
Haha, chuckle's on you & millions of other do-nothings as you keep paying your 'fair share' til the very end, squeezed dry, living your life for Them, in a dying country, condemned by your ignorance and unwillingness to change.
Enjoy your servitude, there are many of us who are living free.
peace peaceniks
You are not a mere dork, but a mega dork. I saw you once in public bathroom - you were meditating on your bowtie in the mirror. You saw me looking and said "The bowtie is in the symbol of infinity." Your voice was very affected - much like that Black science nerd on TV. Blacks think he is what a scientist is supposed to look and act like.
After saying Obama does not care about the private sector, Mitt Romney on Friday dismissed unemployment in the public sector, saying the country does not need more firemen, policemen or teachers. Umm, hmmm.
Earth is rapidly headed toward a catastrophic breakdown if humans don't get their act together, according to an international group of scientists.
Writing Wednesday (June 6) in the journal Nature, the researchers warn that the world is headed toward a tipping point marked by extinctions and unpredictable changes on a scale not seen since the glaciers retreated 12,000 years ago.
"There is a very high possibility that by the end of the century, the Earth is going to be a very different place," study researcher Anthony Barnosky told LiveScience. Barnosky, a professor of integrative biology from the University of California, Berkeley, joined a group of 17 other scientists to warn that this new planet might not be a pleasant place to live.
"You can envision these state changes as a fast period of adjustment where we get pushed through the eye of the needle," Barnosky said. "As we're going through the eye of the needle, that's when we see political strife, economic strife, war and famine."
Uhh, huh. Right. Excellent prognostication.
I blame anyone who has had one, two, three, or more children in the last 40+ years since the publication of THE POPULATION BOMB.
It's not like we didn't see this population growth coming. ZPG, with its "replacement" reproduction gave people an excuse to have one or two children and still feel they were being "responsible."
Not so. We didn't need ZPG (zero population growth), we needed NPG (negative population growth) ... NO MORE CHILDREN. More birth control. More abortions. Massive subsidies of sterilization programs. Education of women and empowerment of women to have unilateral control over their own bodies for population control.
LINDSAY LOHAN JUST CRASHED HER CAR!
ITS ALL OVER THE NET.
'I blame anyone who has had [one, two,]
three, or more children. '
Blame the non WHITES, you imbecile.
Yellows, browns, blacks..breed like flies.
Yeah, but she was taken to the UCLA Medical Center in Santa Monica and released less than two hours later and is already headed back to the set to resume work. She is fine. And, besides, no one was seriously injured in the accident, so it's really a non-story.
[slow, full throated] chuckle...guess you didn t notice the '...'; which together with 'reply to comment' signified a continuation of said comment...i d say that qualifies you for your own goonie, jackass nice
"Getting apopleptic about the 'other side' merely shows how utterly you've been duped."
Is this what he is doing?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/what_liberals_really_respect.html
anti soak, I will repost for your benefit, with emphasis:
I blame anyone who has had one, two, three, or more children in the last 40+ years since the publication of THE POPULATION BOMB.
I believe the word "anyone" includes people of all races. No one can be excluded from responsibility. All the breeders are to blame, white, black, red, yellow, purple, orange, etc.
Incidentally, I first read THE POPULATION BOMB in 1969. I got my vasectomy in 1970. No more children!
CORRECTION
No more children! And no grandchildren or great grandchildren either! Stop all the selfish nonsense of creating carbon copies. "Oh, how cute. He has his father's eyes and his mother's hair" etc. etc. Disgusting ... when the survival of the human race is at stake.
"Great post ending with an existential question. Dont' agree with all the respect though."
-vk-
Sorry, Vlad, but without some respect all we have on CFN is vitriol and the Great and Ever Perfect asoka.vasectomized.
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That said, a high school cafeteria is a great place to watch how humans will REALLY behave - under moderate to severe stress.
In the military, there is training, discipline, and knowledge that a group depends on you - as you depend on them. In a high school lunchroom you have - social stress, while alone.
Which is why you now have "the black tables," "the Mexican tables," and the "other Minority Tables," in every lunchroom in every public school across the United States.
Integration has failed.
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This has been on my mind a lot, lately.
Heavy afternoon traffic forced me to detour through my old stomping grounds recently - south of the Atlanta airport.
Twenty years ago there were White neighborhoods and Black neighborhoods close together - and the schools were integrated 50/50.
Now the area is Solid Black - for mile after mile after mile. I'm talking 5, 10, 15 MILES of heavy afternoon traffic - where a white face is a rarity, and usually belongs to an elderly person.
Sorry, CFN liberals - but this phenomenon is repeated across the country in metropolitan areas - and it is not a recipe for cultural blending and understanding.
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Add into these "African-American" areas the Somali's. If you ever wanted to find a group of immigrants who were TRIBAL, and FEARFUL- you would send for Muslim immigrants from Somalia.
They are cleaning the clocks of native born American blacks around Atlanta, in every possible way.
Which raises an interesting question, which someone should address:
The African-American Blacks, descended from slaves here prior to 1864, may still deserve some breaks - because of slavery and Jim Crow.
So how is it that African-African Blacks from Somalia, whose ancestor's involvement with slavery most likely consisted of SELLING their Black brethren into bondage into the American slave trade -
How is it that these Somali descendents of slave-sellers can immigrate into the USA, and immediately benefit from Affirmative Action and the Jessee Jackson brigade of Racial Injustice.
Inquiring minds seek logical answers.
But there is no logic to be found, here.
Was it drugs? I love that bitch, but I want her in jail. I'll write her love letters. She was so beautiful in Mean Girls, but then displayed a strong desire towards degredation - no doubt left over from a previous life. Now she looks much older than her years, but still hot but in a corrupt way.
It's my job to save her from herself.
That's a very nasty post Anti Soak; a post which reveals your utterly racist sentiments.
That aside, the most effective means to discourage people from having too many kids is to champion economic justice - especially for the poor and the people of color you so despise and whom you claim are "breeding like flies". The reason being is one of the only respites from a life of grinding poverty is sex. And there's no doubt that the process of pregnancy is a truly wondorous moment for any human being: magical, mystical, spiritual.
You see Anti Soak you need to stop thinking in straight lines thereby courting the unintended consequence. People do not stop having kids because they can't afford them; the utterly bereft have kids because it's one of the only experiences that temporarily puts them in contact with the divine in the midst of their economic hell on earth.
Not quit letting your brain stall at the stop sign of stupidity and start letting your brain flow into the cul-de-sac of reason.
Prog,
That's an interesting post but I'm a little confused about your point. Yous state that Somali's are "cleaning the clocks of native born American blacks around Atlanta, in every possible way".
I assume you also mean in education and standard of living. But then you infer that they receive the same benefits of Affirmative Action as do native born American blacks.
Can you elaborate?
Now quit letting your brain stall at the stop sign of stupidity and start letting your brain flow into the cul-de-sac of reason.
Very nicely put. On CFN we have many who worship at the altar of reason, and belong to the religion of science, and believed "western civilization" is superior because it has developed science and technology, which has led us to our current cul de sac.
What our "western civilization" has developed is "ordinary mind." Ordinary mind is chronically analytical, divisive, inconclusive. It always creates disagreements. (Witness Asoka!)
A man living in his mind is, in his actual operation, a conditioned machine; since the mind is the input of the past ruling the present.
Mind-dominated humanity cannot act out in radically different ways to save itself because it is acting out of the past, in ways already out-of-date.
Only if humanity can crystallize the "witnessing consciousness" and achieve centered-seeing as the new dominant faculty, replacing imagination, mythopoeic thought, or reason, will humans be able to awaken, to see alike, agree on what the world situation is, and decide on effective action.
We need our reasoning faculty. We need critical thinking, quantitative analyzing, problem solving, etc. But we need something more to resolve the problems facing us in the 21st century – something beyond the ordinary analytical and divisive mind. We need intelligence that is the by-product of clear seeing. We need intelligence infused with love.
Too Much Magic -- Wishful Thinking, Technology, and the Fate of the Nation.
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Nevermind. homepage.
Cleaning the clocks, "in EVERY way," may have been an overreach. But I've yet to meet a native Atlantan, white, black, or otherwise - who considers our Somali immigrants a net positive for the region or for the US. Basically, they're just a pain in the ass to deal with.
Take a look at this, as regards the way the Noble Ideal of Affirmative Action has bastardized:
"So, employers not only can include non-native born persons in their affirmative action programs, they must. Immigrants gain these benefits despite the fact that affirmative action was designed to redress grievances of America's historic minorities, primarily blacks."
http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc0602/article_507.shtml
We've got a disaster brewing, Buck.
And if the "The Social Contract" proves to be a "racist" website like NumbersUSA and/or FAIR (per the "judgement" of you and asoka.) that does NOT negate the larger point.
Dale is a fucking asswipe. We may disagree, but as soon as we all disregard everything he posts or ignore him, the sooner he will go back to his vaseline jar or blow up doll
'Not quit' Did you mean 'now'?
Is it untrue [which colors are breeding]?
Chindia at 3 billion, Afrika at a billion and set to double.
Since Asoka has 'canonized all non whites', I framed it in colors.
In any case, if it brings you some satisfaction to call me a racist, do so.
I dunno how long MichNatives been lurking here, but within a few posts he 'read you'.
From what I read the Somalis [who Obama is doing all he can to bring into the USA in increasing numbers] are now very predatory in Minnesota, attacking US citizens, often blacks.
No, he didnt mean the Somali unamericans in Atlanta
are outshining the natives.
['Yous state'??]
In the 1990s Bill Clinton went to an African nation
that is [the worst?] slaving nation AND APOLOGIZED FOR SLAVERY.
'But there is no logic to be found, here'
Anti white, Anti American.
Equality, all Negros are created equal.
Yes it was pure Misssion Gallup to give all these benefits to everyone. "Someone(s)" have alot of explaining to do. Ask Being There and let's see her explain this. Or the Ozone space cadet.
Are the Somalis getting the best of the Blacks? It used to be the other way around, but perhaps Islam helps them organize? Hint: they don't consider themsevles Black - whom they consider fit only to be slaves. Still.
Ever hear of "night work"? Apparently Whites are fighting back in Buffalo. Same thing in my old home town: Somali family got burned out within two weeks. Maybe the locals had heard of what they had done up in Maine. Try to understand: terrorism is the weapon of the weak. And Whites are very weak now. Everyone has betrayed White Americans. Their own Goverment, Leaders, Professors, and even Churches. A very brave and perhaps foolish White Buffalonian speaks out. He's gonna get crucified.
http://amren.com/news/2012/06/arson-fire-may-have-been-race-related/
And all the money given to Africans, Hispanics, South Asians, East Asians - that was your money boys and girls. You've been stolen from as well as discriminated against in jobs, admissions, benefits etc.
Isn't that Unconstitutional? Let's ask the Court Liberals like Buck or Being.
盛时代,它的统治者在国力强盛,有着充分自信的前提下,实行了一种开明、开放的政策,博采和吸收各方的文化。
像唐宫廷中吹奏的十部音乐(燕乐)中,就有八部是来自异国或边疆少数民族地区(西凉、高昌、龟兹、疏勒、康国、安国、天笠、高丽)。人们在宗教信仰上也有充分的自由,统治者对于外来宗教不排异,所以在原有的释教、玄门之外,西方的袄教、景教、摩尼教和伊斯兰教也在此时相继传入中国。
唐朝的文化氛围
唐代的妇女更有着前代和后代妇女都没有过的自由,她们可以时时抛头露面,到郊外市里嬉戏、听戏、看球,也可以在春季和男子一起到风光胜地踏青,杜甫的名句"三月三日天气新,长安水边美女的女人多"形容的就是这种景象。他们更可主动寻求恋爱,未婚少女可私结情侣,已婚女性也可以仳离,再醮之事屡见不鲜。
在这种开放的社会中,唐代妇女一改已往哭不露齿、站不依门、行不露面的传统,在服饰上进行了一系列大胆尝试,像废弃了遮蔽脸面的幂罱面幕就是一个典型的例子。天宝年间,不少妇女还模仿男子的装束,着起幞头袍衫,最初在宫里中风行,后渐传至民间,成为普通妇女的日常装束,咱们可以从唐代著名画家张萱所画的《虢国太太春游图》中看到这种装束。
唐玄宗开元年间,胡服之风盛行,妇女多着胡装。唐代所谓的"胡服",指的是包孕西域地区的少数民族服饰和印度、波斯等外国服饰。妇女在着胡服的同时,腰间还系有革带,再饰以胡装,大有娇健英武、跃马扬鞭之势。与此同时,胡舞也成为人们日常糊口中的主要娱乐方式,所以才有了安禄山为市欢唐玄宗、杨贵妃而拖着他几近垂地的胖肚子飞快地跳起了胡旋舞的故事。
唐代领子款式
唐代女服的领子也有种种不同的款式,比较常见的有圆领、方领、斜领、直领和鸡心领等。盛唐以后,还风行过一种袒领,里面不穿内衣,袒胸脯于外,唐诗中的"粉胸半掩疑暗雪","长留白雪占胸前"的句子形容的就是这种装束。
另外,还有一种更加开放的服装,"绮罗丝缕见肌肤",里面不着内衣,仅以轻纱蔽体,在中晚唐代时十分风行,并且一直延续到五代,这可从唐代另一位著名画家周盼的"簮花仕女图"中看到。这种大胆的装束在中国封建社会是极少见的。
典雅与华贵的完美结合--唐装
唐代妇女服饰定时代可以约莫分这么几种:一种是传统的襦,裙装。这种风格一般风行在初唐时期,基本上是相沿了自东汉以来华夏妇女传统的上装下裳制。
咱们现在总说到的衣裳二字,其实衣是衣,裳是裳,衣是上身穿的,裳其实是指现代所说的裙子,衣与裳分开。这种妇女的服饰不是连衣,而是分两截的穿法一直延续到明末。
上装的穿法基本上是右衽交领或对于襟系上带结,下面的裙子围起来系上长长的裙带,上装或者掖里面或者自然的疏松着,后来这种疏松的上装不断加长,一直覆到膝盖部,就后来发展成了明代的违子。
随着发展,唐代的妇女上装种类一般分为襦,袄,衫三种。襦是一种衣身狭窄短小的夹衣或棉袄。袄长于襦而短于袍,衣身较宽松,也有夹衣或棉袄。襦、袄有窄袖与长袖两类。
衫是无袖单衣,功用吸汗,有对于襟及右衽两种。衫在年龄天也可穿在外面,但和穿在外面有短袖的衫不同,后者就发展成了违子或半臂。而在以前,裙子的造型向来都是一种长方形的方片直裙,有点类似今天的和服裙子。
方片裙的样式显得较呆板硬性,是以女性穿起来并不能显出美丽来。是以到了唐代,裙子的形式风行高腰束胸,宽摆拖地的样式,既能显露人体布局的曲线美,又能表现一种富丽潇洒的优美器宇。
这种裙子的布局必须和人体的主体布局有机适应,所以是一种下摆呈圆弧形的多褶斜裙,或喇叭裙。顺便值得一提的是,这种高腰将裙带束到胸脯的裙子,至尽还影响着朝鲜韩国的女性裙装风格。
唐代的裙装,有的还作半露胸的款式,周濆《逢邻女》诗:"慢束裙腰半露胸"。李群玉《赠歌姬诗》:"胸前瑞雪灯斜照"。方干《赠美人》诗"粉胸半掩凝晴雪"。欧阳询《南乡子》:"二八花钿、胸前如雪脸如花"。都是半露胸式裙装的写照。
二就是到了中晚唐时期,服装中加强了华夏的传统审雅观念,起头复古。从以显出女性身材为主逐步恢复到秦汉那种宽衣大袖,飘逸如仙的风格,服式越来越肥。这种风格定了型一直影响到后期华夏女装的基本理念,既宽松随体肥大,这自然在后来也成了礼教所要求的对于象,柔和自然,无形无欲。
中晚唐女装华丽大气,一般类似于礼服,她们里面直接穿抹胸--抹胸原本是内衣,在唐论著和裙子结合形成了一体,它不系腰带,宽松自然。外面直接套上罩衫,罩衫一般读很华丽,基本上都是拖摆至地,有的达几余米,比如,有的袖阔4尺,裾曳地达到5尺,是以,如同后来的欧洲一样,衣摆的长短决定着妇女的身份地位。罩衫一般都是广袖的,广袖就是咱们常看到的宽大的袖子,唐代的广袖基本呈方片形,类似今天的和服袖子。
另外还有一种晚唐时期的礼服,都为宫廷命妇所着,称为钗钿礼服。是中晚唐女装向古代礼仪服饰的过渡的进一步证明,这种款式为礼服一层叠一层,层数繁多,厚重拖摆,穿起来很麻烦。起首穿上很多层广袖上装,层层压叠着,然后在围上伟大拖地的厚重裙子,即著名的"唐裙",然后再在外面套上宽大的广袖上装,虽然繁琐,却给人稳重的感觉,赋有层次感。
值得一提的是,日本的著名古代宫廷和服"十二单"就是从此款礼服演变过来的。日本人称之为"唐衣"即从唐朝传来的服饰,样式基本上没有多大改变,只不过在风格上加多了几许日本本民族的特色。
唐代服饰点缀--帔帛
唐朝女装的最加随饰--帔帛帔帛是美丽女式唐装的点缀,就是咱们看到的画里的妇女肩上或手臂上搭着一条长长的条带,走路随风摆动,显得潇洒自然,这就是帔帛。
帔帛的来源,据后唐马镐《中华古今注》女人帔帛条"古无其制。开元中诏令二十七世妇及宝林御女夫君寻常宴参侍令披画帔帛,至今然矣。至端午日,宫人相传谓之奉圣巾,亦曰续寿巾。续寿巾盖非常参从见之服。"宋高承《事物纪原》说:"秦有帔帛,以彩帛为之,…开元中令三妃以下通服之。"现实上帔帛在东晋当时的风尚未呈现,敦煌莫高窟288窟北魏壁画女赡养人及285窟西魏女赡养人已有帔帛。但南朝陶俑身上仍未见。
中古应某一时期最新的鲜卑、契丹、回纥、吐蕃服装均无帔帛。《大唐西域记》卷二说印度有"横腰络腋,横巾右袒"的服式,莫高窟隋唐时期的菩萨塑像中等能见到,似现代"纱丽"一端搭于肩上,任其下阔部分散拂于腰际者,与帔帛形式也不相同,避孕套。《旧唐书.波斯传》:"其夫婿…衣不开襟,并有巾帔。多用苏方青白色为之,两边缘以织成锦。妇人亦巾帔裙衫,辫发垂后。"
从波斯萨珊王朝银瓶人物画上,所见女装也有帔巾,与唐代帔帛形式略同。又新疆丹丹乌里克出土的早期木版佛画也有帔帛,可知帔帛是通过丝绸之路传入中国的西亚文化,与中国当时服装发展的内因相结合而风行开来的一种"时世妆"的形式。所以唐姚汝能《安禄山事迹》中说:"天宝初贵游士女好衣胡服,胡帽,妇人则簪步摇,衩衣之制度,袖窄小,识者窃怪之,知其戎矣。"敦煌莫高窟390窟许多隋代女赡养人都有帔帛。
唐代除莫高窟壁画之外,从陕西乾县唐中宗神龙二年(公元706年)入葬的永泰公主墓壁画及石椁线描画宫女图,周昉《簪花仕女图》、张萱《虢国太太春游图》、唐人《宫乐图》,到莫高窟98窟五代于阗皇后曹氏像等,都有帔帛,画出了帔帛的各种花色和披戴的方式。唐代诗文中关于帔帛的描写也很多。中国衣料向来以丝绸见长,从战国秦汉到东晋,妇女服装常常做成长袖或飞动的带饰,来绿化妇女柔美轻巧的身姿。帔帛正是发展了传统服饰艺术以虚代实,以动育静的艺术法则,吸入西域服饰的独特之处为我所用,使我民族服饰更加丰富。
冠履
起首说唐代妇女最常戴的帽子--帷帽。帷帽是为妇女出行时,为了遮蔽脸容,不让路人窥视而预设的帽子。这种帽子早在年龄时期就已孕育发生了。多用藤席或毡笠做成帽形的骨架,糊裱缯帛,有的为了防雨,再刷以桐油,然后用皂纱全幅缀于帽檐上,使之下垂以障蔽面部或全身。
后来则与儒家经典《礼.内侧》:"女性出门必拥蔽其面"的封建意知趣结合,帷帽的功用就变成提防路人窥视妇人的面容为主了。遮蔽风沙的实用功能转化为体现封建意念的障身功能。宋代著名的绘画《清明上河图》和元朝永乐宫壁画及明代《三才图会.衣服图会》中,都能看到帷帽的身影,申明帷帽和封建社会封闭女性的意知趣切合,就能一直保留下来。