Rocky Mountain High


     The techno-narcissism flowed like a melted Slurpee this torrid weekend at the annual Aspen Environment Forum where scores of scientists, media figures, authors, professors, and policy wonks convened to settle the world's hash - at least in theory. The trouble started Friday night when Stewart Brand, 74, impresario of The Whole Earth Catalog, and an economic cornucopian these days, exhorted the skittish audience to show a little goshdarn optimistic spirit about the future instead of just griping about climate change, peak oil, imploding global finance, and a few other vexing trifles. The audience's response was to not line up and buy a signed copy of his latest book. 
     The Aspen Institute is supported by a bizarre array of corporate donors and individuals ranging from the secretive, devious, extreme right-wing Koch brothers to Goldman Sachs, to Michael Eisner to Duke Energy. The mission of the Environment Forum is divided about equally between publicizing the gathering horrors of climate change and promoting an ethos of wishful thinking that all the problems of mankind will yield to technological rescue remedies.
    It's a very odd mix of hard-headed science and the most dismaying sort of crypto-religious faith in happy endings, tinged with overtones of corporate log-rolling and government propaganda. The basic message is: the world is hopelessly fucked up but thank God for technology. There is not even a dim apprehension that many of the aforementioned vexations originate in technology itself, and its blowbacks. Alas, this is about the best that the American intelligentsia can do right now, collectively, and it explains why we have such uniformly impotent and clueless leadership across the board in America, from the White House to the CEO offices to the diploma mills to the news media and every other realm of endeavor where thinking realistically about the future might be considered valuable.
     Another strange notion permeating this forum - and probably the entire Progressive intellectual class in America - is the belief that if you can measure things, you can control them. Thus, an endless regurgitation of statistics, which, after a while, resembles liturgical incantation and, pretty much, serves the same purpose, namely an obsessive-compulsive ritual aimed at calming the nerves. If it was, after all, techno-magic that led us to poison the oceans and upset the calibration of the earth's atmosphere, then maybe fresh applications of magic can make all those bad things go away, fighting fire with fire, shall we say.
     Speaking of fire, there was one burning up the valley from Aspen, which made the whole town smell like barbeque Sunday morning while six other wildfires blazed all around Colorado. One of them, the High Park fire, has been going for two weeks and burned over 82,000 acres so far with no sign of petering out. Temperatures in the high Rockies soared over 90 degrees all weekend and there was practically no snowpack left up in the elevations - a spooky development this early in the summer.
      The odor of empire's end also hangs over Aspen these days, despite the sheen of spectacular wealth visible around the little town and the emanations of glowing health in the buff and tanned population of exercise freaks. Everything that makes the town tick is in danger of unraveling. The ski industry can't possibly survive the eventual effects of peak oil, and the collapse of commercial aviation will put an end to the conveyer belt of tourists. The villas of the Wall Street and Hollywood kingpins that decorate the ridge lines above town give off a desolate vibe of futility, as if the foregone disaster of a global banking meltdown had already sent their once-proud owners to bankruptcy Palookaville. The place gave off eerie intimations of a ghost town in-the-making.
      Anyway you looked at America from the vantage of Aspen, Colorado, everything we do and stand for looks out of kilter. Our intellectual resources look spent, our prospects seem grim, and our assets are going up in flames. Maybe there's some consolation that we're not Europe. That said, I have never been to a conference in all my vagabond years where so many magnificent buffet spreads and overflowing gorgeous snack tables were laid in never-ending succession. It almost persuaded me that the old Right Reverend Malthus was too Malthusian.

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Aspen in the good old days, before being permanently colonized by the effete, was a different world, but then the world was different too. Great allusion to the bit of synchronicity in the background 'highlighted' by the worst/earliest fire season in memory as the green illuminati chart the course to controlling the growing chaos.

Ever grateful to have pulled up stakes a couple of decades ago and carved a niche in a warm climate, rural area, where things may go wrong, but not so horribly so. My neighbors are too busy planting and tending their herds to get worked up about sustainable approaches based on high falutin' technology. When gas goes sky high, we go back to bikes, horses and walking. There's no where that far to go.

Wow,


First time ever that I’ve gone to this page & found ‘no comments’ but took way too long to write my submittal & register on the site.

Right on about Colorado! It seems almost the entire state has wildfires, from Fort Collins in the north to Colorado Springs in the south. I’ve never seen it this bad in my 40+ years of living here. It’s unfortunate that the Forest Service let all those dead trees decay & turn into dry tinder for the last couple of decades.

Overall I guess we've messed with Mother Nature for entirely too long, & payback is a bitch.
DEC

Offtopic...
dale I had given you this info 2 ? years ago:
Alan Wallace's Buddhist Teachers
www.alanwallace.org/Buddhist%20Teachers%20&%20Teachings.pdf
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Dzongtse Rinpoche, from whom he first learned spoken and written. Tibetan and ... Kalu Rinpoche, from whom he received the Kalachakra empowerment .

'The basic message is: the world is hopelessly fucked up but thank God for technology'

Id say its more...technology makes the world f--d up but thank God for peak oil.

I'm amazed that in recent years-with all that's going on in our world-we're seeing a spike in "techno-summits". It appears that everyone's pushing some sort of technology-be it mobile, computer, car, or military-that's going to "save" the world.

I realize that this may be our technological "whistling in the graveyard". Instead of preparing for an either scaled-down technology or post-technological world, we're still hoping that we'll create some whiz-bang technology that will allow us to keep going full steam ahead with our rapacious living on Earth and not suffer the consequences.

Then again, pixie dust works great in a pinch too!

There has to be big bucks in it for some, yes?

The Gadget Companies, the speakers, look at CES
in Vegas. In the 'largest columned building in the world'. However it does not fill the whole building.

I just looked at RedBulls 'The Red Bulletin', 'beyond the ordinary magazine'. yuk.

For those traveling thru Reno Airport, I got a kick out of this....cant remember where I found this:

A painting of Che Guevara subtitled “Revolucion!” by a Mexican–American artist is on display at the International Airport in Reno, Nevada, USA.
Ernesto “Che” Guevara scorned Mexicans as “a rabble of illiterate Indians,” jailed artists at a higher rate than Stalin, co-founded the terrorist movement that pulled off among the first and deadliest airplane hijackings in the Western Hemisphere, and craved to nuke the USA.
In November 1958, Cubana Airlines Flight 495 from Miami to Varadero was hijacked at gunpoint by terrorists belonging to Castro and Che’s July 26th Movement. The plane crashed in Cuba killing 14 passengers.
Che’s glowing face now greets all passengers preparing to board at Reno-Tahoe Airport. How very thoughtful of airport officials.
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I recall that Eleuthro may have said that he's a retired California high school teacher, or a retired California community college teacher.

http://dollarcollapse.com/welcome-to-the-third-world/welcome-to-the-third-world-part-5-higher-education-goes-broke/

Strange how the internet and people like you propagate BS. "I saw this quoted somewhere, posted ona wall from somewhere else so it's true".
Che as Minister of Education initiated the world class strong arts community we now have in Cuba. Che Guevara worked in Central Mexico City General Hospital (for the poor) for two years and had an abiding respect for and love of the indigenous Mexicans. Today poorer Mexicans revere him. The air hijacking you speak of was part of the revolutionairie action against the CIA backed butcher Fulgencia Batista. Since then there had been dozens of hijackings by Miami based ex-pat Cuban terrorists e.g. the worst being the CIA funded Luis Posada Carriles 1976 air bombing murder of 78 on flight 455. Get at least some "facts" straight Anti Soak.

Hey Jim,

Long time....

Stewart Brand was a keynoter at the 2010 Gaining Ground Conference in Vancouver and, as at Aspen, left people unsettled with his certainty about a nuclear future, chemically 'painting' the tops of clouds to reflect some of the sun's warming effects, and other techno-fixes.

There is something initially (and briefly) calming and hope-inducing about Stewart's and others' whiz-bang tech responses. Generally, the problem comes when these fixes lead to a hundred unintended consequences, including the creation of new monsters.

Congratulations on the new book.

Gene

He ran Fidels Gulag!
Thats fact enough for me....

'We now have in Cuba'!
Are you posting from Cuba?

TT - Cuba - INTERNET Acess in Cuba
cubafaq.tripod.com/internet.htm
The Internet is banned in Cuba,..........

What I originally posted is from Front Page.

According to a friend of mine who escaped from Cuba and knew Che intimately, he was a sociopathic murderer, who killed his cousin, and many other people in Cuba. My friend is writing a book about what happened back then.

Obviously different people who knew Che have differing opinions of him.

Great post, Jim. Just read Stoneleigh's post at The Automatic Earth, and it was a good one as well. Things are literally heating up for us all here on planet Earth.

The basic message is: the world is hopelessly fucked up but thank God for technology.

Human beings are wired to believe that technology can fix everything. It has been this way since the first two legged fool came down from trees. To think otherwise would require a paradigm shift which can't happen soon enough to prevent extinction. Unfortunately.

Better column than the recent ones preoccupied with economics. I'll buy the new book.

Science has become a tool of whatever funding source it can obtain from whatever special interest will give to it. Science is supposed to be impartial and occupied with the pursuit of truth, regardless of who likes or doesn't like whatever message is associated with it. When it becomes what it has now, it is just another sign that we are entering a Dark Age.

Visit The Leibowitz Society at http://leibowitzsociety.blogspot.com for more information and commentary related to the new Dark Age.

Interesting to get a read on what takes place at those conclaves these days JHK.

The place gave off eerie intimations of a ghost town in-the-making.

I lived in Aspen from 1968 to 1971, mostly for the skiing but also for the fun. (Hunter was running for sheriff) It had one traffic light, no airport and not one condo yet, if you can feature that. The place was barely on it's way back from being a ghost town at the time. We lived in a cold and drafty old miner's house for cheap, the remnants of an earlier boom and bust.

http://alttransbikes.blogspot.com/

something is there

Technology is the future. 1984 is really here, and only 30 years late! In my little rural corner of New York State, the police, the border patrol and DHS goons are putting up cameras on light poles as fast as they can (in case a bad guy drives by). The county is exploring options to cut the costs of court by putting in a remote camera arraignment system. First they catch you doing something with a camera, and then you get to go to court with another camera. Perfect symmetry. Wonder if you get to serve your time in the slammer by video. Maybe not, but I bet you can pay your fine with an electronic check.

Have we forgotten that once we design technology it in turn starts to redesign us?

Here in Copenhagen we have recently played host to your illustrious Secretary of State Hillary Clinton who took the opportunity to declare an agenda of bilateral 'sustainable growth'. This apparently means manufacturing lots of green technological fixes that will not just save our souls but make us all rich too.

I seem to remember the days when sustainability as a word just stood on its own. Then it turned into 'sustainable development ' ... and now is 'sustainable growth'. Whatever next?

http://www.22billionenergyslaves.blogspot.dk/

I seem to remember the days when sustainability as a word just stood on its own. Then it turned into 'sustainable development ' ... and now is 'sustainable growth'. Whatever next?

Uncanny how the merchandising never rests.
"The capitalist will sell you the rope to hang him with" and all that.

BTW, it's an uncomfortable thought to see HRC referred to as 'your' SoS.

http://alttransbikes.blogspot.com/

Thanks JHK for sharing this event with us. Seems like a tailor-made illustration for your new book which I can't wait to read.

Yep, everything about this country is corporatism, PR and big money behind every event that tries to push new investments. The idea is to convince everyone that we always have an answer.
The Koch brothers are behind both the worst set of labor laws, corporate pollution and promoting anti-science attitudes, while backing PBS shows on science. Lest you forget that they went to Ivy league schools. At the moment they will be contributing $400 million and counting to Romney. Now that's a progressive move.

Stay tuned for the green energy bubble. But Oh, my, in the real world, Solyndra went down in flames, hmmm.

Only Germany with the sunlight of Alaska was able to fit individual homes with solar panels because it's set up to work on a small scale and feed into the grid where the homeowner can actually make money with their excess energy. Now that doesn't fit in with the monopoly model, does it?

The cognitive dissonance of the forest fires ablaze as a backdrop would be truly hilarious if it weren't so sad.

Such is life at the end of Empire.

Only Germany with the sunlight of Alaska was able to fit individual homes with solar panels because it's set up to work on a small scale and feed into the grid where the homeowner can actually make money with their excess energy. Now that doesn't fit in with the monopoly model, does it?

No it does not, it's hard to a put a meter on the sun. The ideas of centralized alternative energy conjures up ugly and impractical images of solar arrays covering square miles of desert or wind farms on every ridge line.

Alt energy could be effective and practical, in increments, following more the de-centralized German model you mention when building and consumer codes not only allow but encourage and outline how every house can implement things like solar orientation of the building lot, landscape planning for shade and air movement, solar collectors, small, vertical wind turbines, on demand hot water heaters, and appliances that make sense like refrigerators well insulated and with the heat producing cooling components on top of the cabinet or perhaps even in a remote location. These kinds of living changes, de-centralized to the consumer level could collectively amount to huge differences.


From:

http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=178031

[quote="nameta9"]Why most of the USA, EU and JAPAN are destined to low to zero or negative economic growth for many years in the future no matter what structurally, no matter what economical policies they choose (either left or right no difference), Anything any government does, any politics either right or left, Democratic or Republican won't change any of these deep large scale structural effects killing any future economic growth for years:

1) Technology kills more jobs than creates;

2) Hundreds of millions of new workers worldwide available now, China, India, Indonesia, etc;

3) Saturated markets, the west has bought all it needs, it has already way too much stuff;

4) Resources are strained, Oil is running out, agriculture strained, etc.

5) No new big technology novelties that can create many jobs;

6) Population is higher and higher, too many people for too little wealth;

7) Green ideology and evironmentalists kill developments and possible growth (against, skyscrapers, high speed trains, etc.);

8 ) Environment is strained, pollution and such;

9) Much older population, too old to work, old people not good enough for technology;

10) Accumulation of debts, too many pensions to pay, etc.;

11) Competition kills a lot of jobs in a lot of places, like Germany is the winner take all in cars, Spain and Greece can't build their own BMWs or Mercedes models, they are not good enough or smart enough or "work hard" enough whatever;

12) The west killed unions and worker protection because it thinks that that is bad for the economy, but it mostly just makes the rich richer;

13) The financial and fluff side of the economy dominates and hence makes the rich richer and takes money away from all the middle class and poor, etc;[/quote]

I forgot the two really HUGE reasons why Economic Growth will be very low for many years:

14) A HUGE INCREASE IN HOUSING COSTS AND PRICES, EITHER TO RENT OR BUY, ESPECIALLY OUTSIDE OF THE USA, LIKE IN EUROPE AND JAPAN (in their big cities especially, where all the cough, cough "Jobs" are) killing any possibility for an expansion of the middle class (the new potential middle class made up of young people who can no longer afford housing costs!) that would buy things and furniture and such but can't since they have to pay such huge prices for rents or mortgages, so they decide that it is better to live in Mom's basement, etc. And in fact we need a huge Deflation of Housing Costs and Prices in New York City, Rome, Paris, Tokyo, London, etc. a 3 bedroom house in the center of these cities should cost no more than 50,000 dollars or no more than 200 dollars a month to rent, END OF STORY. Will this ever happen ? NO WAY, JOSE', well then kiss your imaginary "GROWTH", "Sustainable Growth", "Economic growth" and all other BS, and the possibility to pay back the huge debts in the USA, EU and JAPAN goodbye forever. Real Estate must Crash Baby Crash, like a wild dying PIG! Oh, I forgot, the fake, imaginary value of real estate is what backs up the banks worldwide pretending to be hugely richer than what they are, what c*cks...

15) Huge increase in Health Care costs and Education costs (especially in the USA), since the only way to make money is to squeeze money out of people by making them pay basic needs a higher and higher price (exactly those 3 needs that are the basics: houses, health care and cough, cough "Education" since without education "no one hires you" according to traditional monopolistic old and static societies that are decaying and dying).

Is there any Political Party or Political Program in the USA, EU or JAPAN that can change any of this ? NO WAY, JOSE'!


Technology ?

We got really spoiled in the last 200 years or so. We discovered everything and applied everything (or at least a good 90 % of what is still to be discovered and applied, etc.), we discovered and learned how to apply ELECTRICITY, then STEAM ENGINES, THEN CARS, THEN PLANES AND JETS AND ROCKETS AND COMPUTERS AND TV and so forth, etc. And now we are essentially at the end of the "Novelty Era", there is very little left to discover and apply, we are just optimizing and changing form factors and just making believe that we are reinventing most of the things that have already been invented over and over again: Any new Passenger Jet Plane going faster than Sound ? NO. Any new Flying Cars ? NO. Any new fangled battery substituting Oil ? NO. Any new Planet Exploration ? NO. Any new Fusion Energy Power ? NO. Any new Real Artificial Intelligence (that isn't just the same old bad voice recognition idiocy ) ? NO, and so on so forth forever. We just make gadgets that do the same old things over and over again and sell them as new and revolutionary, like smart phones with digital cameras in them (the camera is an old invention, been there, done that) or putting all of the computer power of a PC in a small gadget, etc. And by doing this we are simply sponging off the Moore's Law that says you can keep on creating transistors in a smaller space, but even in this realm we are at the end of the line, a few more years and the Moore's Law game is over too.

So we expect the future to be like the past, but it won't be so, it just can't happen anymore, that short era is over, now we have to deal with ourselves and our political systems that hugely suck and the debts and the betrayed expectations of a future that never came to be.

Of course we could do a lot more, like Free Salaries to All, Cheap Rents, Trillions of Skyscrapers, trillions of Rockets to Mars and especially change the design and functioning and architecture of our Man Brain, of our Mind to become a better machine, a more progressive machine that goes towards the future and wants the future: but people are too Stone Age Apes to want to do this, and they love nature (which should be despised and destroyed in order to create space for the new Machine Men that will come, etc.), so suck it up, we will simply decay, stagnate and go back to the Stone Ages. AMEN.

I live here in the mountains of Colorado. I read in the paper a few days ago how they were cutting off commercial tubing down the Yampa River in Steamboat Springs. The water level is too low. They went on to say how last year at this time, people weren't able to tube the river because it was too high! Last year, the rafting companies were ecstatic. This year, they need to get it in early, cuz it's drying up. We broke a record for temperature last Friday in Denver at 102. The old record temp for that day was set in the 19th century. Still, the traffic jam from people heading back to Denver on I70 yesterday, Sunday, was the biggest I've seen in some time. I guess the 10 degrees cooler temps were enough to get the folks out in droves. The counties along the way actually benefit, because these people come off the road and eat and drink a little, since there's nothing else to do but cruise the rush hour city speed, though with a nice, scenic mountain backdrop. Oh, and it runs along the lately relatively anemic Clear Creek...

btw, tubing = floating down the river in an inner tube for a tire...

As Dick Cheny once infamously when asked about changes in the environement: "Americans will have to adapt".

Rising sea level a threat to East coast. June 25, 2012 http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/06/25/sea_level_rising_3_4_times_faster_along_east_coast_than_globally_government_report_finds/


http://alttransbikes.blogspot.com/

I can't help but draw attention to the John Denver reference baked into the title... as Wikipedia says...

"Rocky Mountain High" is primarily inspired by John Denver's move to Aspen, Colorado, United States three years earlier and his love for the state. The seventh stanza makes a reference to destruction of the mountains' beauty by commercial tourism. The song was considered a major piece of 1970s pop culture, and became a well-associated piece of Colorado history.

The song briefly became controversial that year when the U.S. Federal Communications Commission was permitted by a legal ruling to censor music deemed to promote drug abuse. Numerous radio stations cautiously banned the song until Denver publicly explained that the "high" was his innocent description of the sense of peace he found in the Rockies. In 1985, Denver testified before Congress in the Parents Music Resource Center hearings about his experience:

This was obviously done by people who had never seen or been to the Rocky Mountains, and also had never experienced the elation, celebration of life, or the joy in living that one feels when he observes something as wondrous as the Perseid meteor shower on a moonless, cloudless night, when there are so many stars that you have a shadow from the starlight, and you are out camping with your friends, your best friends, and introducing them to one of nature's most spectacular light shows for the first time.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Mountain_High

I'm not surprised that you had this kind of reaction to the Aspen Institute. You've also given a TED talk. TED has the same kind of issue with its attitude toward technology and the future. I wonder if you picked that up when you spoke to them all those years ago?

Over at Crazy Eddie's Motie News, I've been cheering on people who believe in the power of technology, but it hasn't been the auto industry, as I usually do. Instead, I've posted two updates on the news from space. The U.S. may not have a manned spacecraft right now, but the Chinese do, and they're showing off their capabilities. Meanwhile, what will 9 billion people, should we ever get there, eat for protein? Not Soylent Green, but insects. Some enterprising people are making cricket bars for human consumption in the U.S. Also, the gas price rollercoaster is on its way down and the performance of the Vagina Monologues attracted a record crowd for a political demonstration at Michigan's Capitol. Oh, and happy solstice!

I got one comment, which was supposed to be about Lisa Brown's hypocrisy, but was really about regulation of fracking in Michigan. That will make for good blogging fodder. If you have any other suggestions for me, leave a comment on one of my entries.

Happy Motoring--for now--from Detroit!

http://crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/

In the late sixties in Colorado, there use to be a bumper sticker that said:

"Don't Californicate Colorado"

hahahaha, too Late on that one!!!

Ghost towns will be the New 'Merikan Strip Mall, an architectural style unto itself.

Favela Chic, Shantytown Retro Shabby, Hobo Bobo Gone with the Wind Trust Fund suburban planning zones.

All new destitute life-styles of the New Poor.

Techno-narcissism is a lethal malignant loser kind of religion.

Poor Stewart Brand. How the mighty have fallen. Stewart's conversion to the wonders of nuclear power to 'fix' our energy future looks pitiful in light of Fukishima liberally spreading radioactive 'Pixie Dust' all over California and the Bay area where Stewart lives his poser life-style in Sausalito on a swank tugboat.

Wait until the seafood starts testing out as radioactive and watch the effect at Fisherman's Wharf on sales.


Life has been sweet to the professional Cassandra
who jets around the world at the expense of those he ridicules. In some circles this is know as a con.

Although Colorado denizens may be finally getting their definitive reality check, it is sadly, too late. My little hamlet in the mountains will probably effectively close down this summer. I see it will be cooler in Sacramento today than here in the so called cool mountains of Colorado. All I feel now is sadness and anger.


Aspen Environment Forum:

Thankful I wasn't subjected to the rubes and DEEP THINKERS. Sounds dreadful.

Crary: Another thursday night deadline missed. These fails don't look good on a resume. You simply cannot be trusted to perform.

Good Luck.

JHK's timeline for the collapse of civilization is skewed to the short term. With so much oil and gas left to extract (afterall we are at the PEAK) and the war toys and printing presses to rival no ones expect things here in the Great US of A to be business as usual for at least a couple more decades.

JHK said: "The basic message is: the world is hopelessly fucked up but thank God for technology."

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Shouldn't we define technology?

Fire? Wheel barrows? Shovels and garden hoes?

Aren't those all "technology"?

Or is technology anything we think has led to our current predicament?

Great memories of Aspen ca. 1968. Camping at the Maroon Bells, hearty breakfast at Andre's with steaming coffee in mustache mugs, and sun coming in leaded windows and HERE COMES THE SUN on the sound system!

JHK never finishes his posts with one of these ;o)

Thanks for that, quite a list, I hadn't seen that before.

Obviously different people who knew Che have differing opinions of him.
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Yeah....I have one of his t-shirts, like to wear it around and watch the tea party heads explode when they see it.

I'm sure there is someone around who thinks Stalin was just a cuddly little dude. People have many sides.

Wow! I had no idea that the Aspen Institute was funded by the Koch Bros along with the usual gang of suspects! Aren't the infamous cornucopian Amory Lovins and his wife funded by the Aspen Institute?


Here is the list of Corporate 1% honchos on the Aspen's Board:


http://www.aspeninstitute.org/about/leadership


I do from a Google search that of course Amory Lovins was peddling his snakeoil there in the past.
But what about Bill KcKibben?

Extinction any time soon? Hmmmm...by a random gigantic meteor strike maybe, global nuclear holocaust maybe, running out of fossil fuel, doubtful. There's seven billion humans on this little round ball now...maybe one billion after all the cheap energy runs out in 20 years? Extinction unlikely...

What year or decade is likely to see Peak Population (PP)? If Peak Oil production is about 40 years later than peak oil discovery does it reason that PP is 40 years after PO?

Then there's the green Breakthrough Institute, with their recent report on the state of the world, highly polished, with the message that global ecological decimation has been good for humanity. Species extinction? No problem. Climate Change? Charge straight ahead just as we are.

I commented on their site, that if I believed in the Illuminati, I would blame them on this report. The I scrolled down and saw the attribute, A Project of Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors Inc. Philanthropy, as a business.

http://thebreakthrough.org/blog/2012/06/planetary_boundaries_a_mislead.shtml

Apparently actually the major export of the USA with its $1 Trillion annual costs of War are the weapons of death and destruction we subsidize.
Thus a few months ago despite the objections of Egyptian pro-Democracy protesters, Obomber and Hillary approved resumed arms sales to the Egyptian military still holding onto power. Apparently the lack of sales was hurting various Merchants of Death such as Boeing.


And the New York Times reported Sunday that Bahrain democracy advocates are now protesting the USA
for its merchants of deaths sending arms to the military putting down Democracy there.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/world/middleeast/as-hopes-for-reform-fade-in-bahrain-protesters-turn-anger-on-united-states.html?pagewanted=all



For months, the protests have aimed at the ruling monarchy, but recently they have focused on a new target. To their familiar slogans — demanding freedoms, praising God and cursing the ruling family — the young protesters added a new demand, written on a placard in English, so the Americans might see: “U.S.A. Stop arming the killers.”


Of course Saudi Arabia is continuing to station its troops in Bahrain and the merchants of death $30 Billion in arms sales to the Saudi dictatorship dwarfs anything provided to either
Bahrain or Egypt...


One CF poster wrote"This apparently means manufacturing lots of green technological fixes that will not just save our souls but make us all rich too."

I vividly recall one former co-worker who often said; 'there must be a way to make a buck off climate change." And there's yer sign and the crux of the problem. Humans have never will never be able to 'make a buck' (at least not with 9 billion people around) and be 'green'. 'Making a buck' and 'green' are mutually exclusive, diametrically opposed, 'as far as the east is from the west' terms.

"Human beings are wired to believe that technology can fix everything. It has been this way since the first two legged fool came down from trees."

Well, that two legged fool spawned the likes of Leonardo, Einstein, etc. etc. And while technology can't fix everything, we do live a sight better than those who frequented the African steppes.

The only reason that humans are wired to believe in technology is that the proof has been in the pudding.

...yeah, the 'nuveau pauvre salissant'..."new dirt poor" in anglais...well fuck it, i say welcome to the club...ya pays ya dues with time around heah...

To many people to many problems and that is my story and I'm sticking to it. James you hit a home run on this one. The Aspen Institute has become a show case for the corporate types,shills,and self promoters and dropped the name the Aspen Institute of humanistic studies. Eisner is nothing but shill for Wall Street and I was also interested if his wonder boy Lovins was around. BTW Hunter who was the smart one of the couple left him years ago. Here is Eisner whose greatest hero is Steve Jobs that lying greed head and loving taking advantage of the downtrodden in other countries. I can see most of the attendees stuffing their pie holes at the Food and Wine festival before heading over to the Institute to fill themselves up again. I lived in Aspen from 1961 until I fled in 1989. Even Walter Paepke is probably rolling in his grave along with Mortimer Adler at what the Institute has become which is as you say a mirror of the town itself. As for the Koch brothers they call them the Kochsuckers in Colorado. Yep a dying town for sure whose biggest industry is finding the latest greatest fool to sell real estate to.

"Yep, everything about this country is corporatism, PR and big money behind every event that tries to push new investments. The idea is to convince everyone that we always have an answer. "

And of course Jimmy was there to shill what? Oh yeah. He has a new book. Yawn.

...um, my results- based conclusion is that we mught very well have been better off in the trees...i mean, look around you...: leaving the [rhetorical, IMnotsoHO] question of global weirding aside, we ve raped and poisoned and changed the environment so much that we re all fucked regardless; even if we can keep from killing ourselves off in war...

James H., you often use this gag line about your visit to Google: "But, dude, we've got TECHNOLOGY!" In the minds of most of the potentates at AI events, when the technology falls short, there an even sexier fail-safe system in defense of the status quo: "But, my dear fellow, we have MANAGEMENT."

They have seen the enema, and it is them!

Bend over, my friends...

http://occupyMBA.com

As someone who follows the business world pretty closely, writes professionally on the subject, and am well credentialed, I can tip my hat to the doomers on one point.

The current situation in Europe has the potential to be FAR worse than most people realize. They may keep it together over there and they may not. (frankly, it's looking pretty iffy to me lately) If they don't, and the Euro goes down, or there is a banking panic in Spain.....grab hold of your nuts and duck. It won't matter who is President, or what we do, a serious worldwide depression is likely.

That will make worrying about PO a moot point for quite awhile.

"...um, my results- based conclusion is that we mught very well have been better off in the trees..."

Well, last time I looked there are still a few trees. Go climb one. Make certain you leave you computer on the ground...I mean you wouldn't want to fall while hopelessly clinging to a piece of technology.

I have not been to Aspen but I recall someone who lived there saying [almost 20 years ago] 'a home there was a Million Dollars'.
So it gentrified from 1970 to 1990. To put it mildly.

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Ain't we in a fine mess. The Left as represented by the Aspen Institute (my guess nearly %100 white) has politically aligned with the colored race national socialists who cannot spell "enviroment" much less care about it. The conservationists (again nearly %100 white) have politically aligned with phillistines that are leveling Kentucky for Bituminous coal.

And to square our circles we must use "magic thinking" to gloss over the illogical parts of our alignments.

This seems to be a common belief system - that somehow technology will come riding to the rescue to save us from ourselves. That scientists will come up with a solution, a magic bullet, a cheap new power source that doesn't pollute or warm the planet, engineered crops that will feed everyone, etc. The other side of this belief is that we can continue to do everything that we are doing now, but that maybe going from incandescent bulbs to compact fluorescents is all that is needed.

I went to Costco on Saturday. The Pacific NW is getting the short end of climate change and we've had record rains for June. Everyone responds by going shopping and the parking lot was full, mostly with large SUV type cars. I had to park my hybrid out at the edges. Inside was a metaphor for the outside with everyone pushing oversized shopping carts loaded with crap. Two accidentally ran into me while they were otherwise distracted talking on their cellphones. They drive the same way unfortunately, since the cellphone while driving laws are unenforced. I couldn't wait to get the hell out of there with my frozen fruit.

Its clear that its not a matter of simply not doing enough. Instead, we are doing absolutely nothing as a society to solve the world's problems. The fat cats are now in control and they are more interested in making money for the now so they can buy Hawaiian islands, while Lonesome George and several other species disappear from the planet at a rate of 27,000 species a year, or one every 19 minutes. Meanwhile, the rest of us are simply too busy trying to keep a roof over our heads, stay healthy and avoid bankruptcy to do anything more than change lightbulbs.

I did finish a greenhouse this weekend so that I'll have tomatoes and peppers. I finally got around to something I should have gotten around to 20 years when I moved to this piece of land.

Another excellent post today, Jim. Thanks!

Ha Ha- stupid little smart-phone; it s pretty well portable...and i reckon we ll (you and i, that is) continue to use what technology allows communication to occur over the span of seconds or minutes, as opposed to days and weeks...or are we going to have bonfires as blogs- wait, that much smoke in the environment can t be good- brings new meaning to the phrase 'full of hot air'...

That's another problem, my friend. I've been saying for months (and on my blog) that Greece is the canary in the coal mine; and these days, Tweety ain't doing that hot.

If the Euro takes a nosedive and the EU behind it, or a Spanish banking panic, like you said, we'd better grab our nuts and duck. Ain't going to matter what TinkerToys Aspen can dream up because no one's going to be able to afford them.

Forest service! What are you some kind of socialist? We don't need no stinking forest service, all we need is the private sector. If the guvmint would just get out of the way with the unconstitutional laws and regulations, good ol' capitalist lumber companies would come in and clear cut this country bare, just he way it's suppose to be.

It appears that liquid fuels can be synthesized in a fairly simple manner. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_fuel

...um, my results- based conclusion is that we mught very well have been better off in the trees...i mean, look around you...:

You obviously have never spent any time living in the real wild ("in the trees").

Technology developed to flee the extremely difficult life in the trees.

peace peaceniks

Mysterious Mass Cattle Deaths May Be Caused By Random Grass Mutation in GMO Grass

http://www.weareaustin.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_2393.shtml

Fabulous!

The grass in question is a genetically modified form of Bermuda known as Tifton 85

Dr. Gary Warner, an Elgin veterinarian who specializes in cattle, conducted the 15 necropsies on the dead cows.

Preliminary tests revealed the Tifton 85 grass, which has been growing here for years, had suddenly started producing cyanide gas. [poisoning the cattle]

Far Out!

GMO cattle graze grass mutated and started producing cyanide in quantities large enough to kill cattles.

Technology Rules Dude!

And what Techno-Fix pimp doesn't love Monsanto.

"…A growing number of [corn] rootworms are now able to devour [GMO]genetically modified corn specifically designed by Monsanto to kill those same pests. A new study shows that while the biotech giant may triumph in Congress, it will never be able to outsmart nature…."

"..Monsanto launched its anti-rootworm GM corm in 2003. The Cry3Bb1 protein, derived from the Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt.) bacterium, was inserted into the corn’s genetic code. The embedded protein was supposed to be fatal to all rootworms…"

"The recent findings came days after Monsanto, along with other biotech companies, got a major boost from a congressional panel, which okayed the manufacture of GM crops despite pending legal challenges. Many of the lawsuits that Monsanto faces include assessments that its crops are unsafe for human consumption and affect the health of unborn children. "

Hey maybe Monsanto can produce corn that gives off Cyanide like the cattle grass as a Birth Control solution for over population.

A Techno Win-Win!!!

Not so fast...reading down in the comments to the link you provided I saw that a few commentators said that Tifton 85 is not genetically modified grass.

I've been saying for months (and on my blog) that Greece is the canary in the coal mine; and these days, Tweety ain't doing that hot.


Man, you are really on the cutting edge with your prediction about Greece. Who'da known?


More seriously - this is only a debt crisis on the surface. The European Central Bank can print as many Euros as it pleases to pay off any Eurozone country's debts. Why do you think the FED printed $3-4 trillion lickety split to save the big US banks and gambling houses? Because it can.

That 'money' was used to settle debts.

But you've got to be a big player to qualify.

Ergo we have in place entities which can pay off any and all debts at the touch of a few buttons.

But they are reluctant to do so, as doing so can upset the wonderful pleasure-filled/power-filled lives of the folks that run these outfits. So they pick who will live and who will die, with an eye to not upsetting their applecarts.

This is more accurately a game of control played by huge international blocs such as the IMF, China, Germany, the US. These players hold certain trump cards (e.g. China owns most of our debt=claims against taxes, IMF wants to control politics in Europe/Africa etc; US wants to control petroleum production) and want to see certain factions in power in Europe and elsewhere.

They want these factions to gain advantage over other big players, for example the US allies with Middle East oil producers to keep China boxed in.

Make no mistake, to the very elite worldmasters this is all merely a game of pride, anger, pleasure. They have events mostly firmly in control.


I reserve the right to be wrong.

peace peaceniks

Off Topic:
I went into the local Apple store yesterday to pickup my repaired lap top. The blue shirted employees out numbered the customers by more than 2 to 1. That is first time I've ever seen the store without crowds. I'll check it out a few more times, but I think everyone who wants an i-thingy now owns one.

Correction:

Tifton 85 Bermuda grass is not GMO. It’s an sterile F1 hybrid pentaploid [having five haploid sets of chromosomes]

To make commercially viable F-1 Hybrids, you want them to be sterile, that way people are forced to buy new seeds each year because they can’t save the seeds. Hooray for technology that supports Monopoly!

To create the sterile plant, they have to genetically-modify the hybrid in order to introduce the male sterility gene into each seed.

There are a few ways of doing this, but they all involve something unnatural (either a chemical spray that alters genetic expression or a protoplast fusion in a lab).

Tifton 85 is a sterile plant. Yes, it’s an F-1 Hybrid. But it’s also the product of laboratory genetic modification.

Naturally-created F-1s (of the old-fashioned variety that you or I could create in our own gardens) don’t reproduce true, but they do reproduce.

Reply to Ilovephilosophy.com:

Re: Point 14.
Thank you for that. Housing costs, including necessary utilities all across the USA need to be no more than 1/3 takehome pay of the average wage or salary of a full time employed worker in the same city or oounty. Specifically low income housing needs to cost no more than 1/3 full time earnings of a minimum wage worker. Essential utilites I define as those amenities needed to sustain life and make a creditable job application. Hot and cold running water, telephone service and electricity I consider essential, while, eg, cable TV is a luxury. There are many among the working class who have skills, and even tools--we don't all spend our money when we have any, on cheeze doodles and trips to Vegas--who simply cannot make enough from self employment to cover rent/mortgage/insurance and utilities. Utilities in particular need to be reregulated. Those who are willing to use less should be paying lower rates, not just less money, but LOWER RATES as well.

I have tried and tried to explain what I think are basic facts of life for working people to self-styled "progressives" at DK and other sites, to no avail. These self appointed tribunes of the poor refuse to understand that what working people need is LOWER HOUSING COSTS.

I do wonder what other not quite GMO snakes are waiting in the F1 grass to bite us?

Big Ag is going to feed the world. Right.

Hilary Clinton? A solution?

Look into her past. Any good reporter does that:

http://www.prorev.com/connex.htm

1976

Bill Clinton is elected attorney general of Arkansas.

Two Indonesian billionaires come to Arkansas. Mochtar Riady and Liem Sioe Liong are close to Suharto. Riady is looking for an American bank to buy. Finds Jackson Stephens with whom he forms Stephens Finance. Stephens will broker the arrival of BCCI to this country and steer BCCI's founder, Hassan Abedi, to Bert Lance.

Riady's teen-age son is taken on as an intern by Stephens Inc. He later says he was "sponsored" by Bill Clinton.

1977

Hillary Clinton joins the Rose Law Firm.

Apparently because of pressure from Indonesia, Riady withdraws his bid to buy Lance's 30% share of the National Bank of Georgia. Instead, a BCCI front man buys the shares and Abedi moves to secretly take over Financial General - later First American Bankshares -- later the subject of the only BCCI-connected scandal to be prosecuted in the US.

1978

Clinton is elected governor.

The Clintons and McDougals buy land in the Ozarks for $203,000 with mostly borrowed funds. The Clintons get 50% interest with no cash down. The 203 acre plot, known as Whitewater, is fifty miles from the nearest grocery store. The Washington Post will report later that some purchasers of lots, many of them retirees, "put up houses or cabins, others slept in vans or tents, hoping to be able to live off the land." More than half of the purchasers will lose their plots thanks to the sleazy form of financing used.

Two months after commencing the Whitewater scam, Hillary Clinton invests $1,000 in cattle futures. Within a few days she has a $5,000 profit. Before bailing out she earns nearly $100,000 on her investment. Many years later, several economists will calculate that the chances of earning such returns legally were one in 250 million."

http://www.prorev.com/connex.htm
etc.etc.

He set himself up in luxury in one of the most posh Estates of Havana. The more things change the more they stay the same. Happily, he came to a bad end - shot by Bolivian Officers after capture. He had just finished combing his hair and trimming his beard - he thought he was going to be put on TV and lioned by more stupid Whites all over the world. Thank God there are some normal people left on the right.

If TPTB wanted to rig the bio-human-sphere for a 'controlled demolition' of the 7 billion plus "useless eaters', as Henry Kissinger thinks of them as, they would turn to the Ag-Industrial Complex [Monsato-stein] for final solutions.

Why have 'death camps', when everywhere can effectively function as one.

All of Nature can be planted with IGDs [improvised genetic devices] that 'go off' like cyanide lawn grass.

A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Lose

"....The basic message is: the world is hopelessly fucked up but thank God for technology. There is not even a dim apprehension that many of the aforementioned vexations originate in technology itself, and its blowbacks. Alas, this is about the best that the American intelligentsia can do right now,..."

Beware of the military-industrial-financial-academic-media complex.

The idea that there is this vast conflict between religion and science is an illusion. Scientism, for a while now, has ruled the roost. Both sides, generally, are, consciously or unconsciously, confirmed materialists.

Thanking God for technology falls far short when it comes to thanking God. Better to thank God for everything that is, everything that isn't, and anything that does not fall within these two categories.

But she's a Woman! Women are the Creators of Life! She deserves to be President since we've had a "Black" now we need a Woman!

In the future, it will be taught that the first "person" on the moon was a Black Woman named Neela Armstrong.

Stewart Brand's latest book, "Whole Earth Discipline--Why Dense Cities, Nuclear Power, Transgenic Crops, Restored Wildlands and Geoengineering are Necessary," was written in 2009. I'm curious to know if his pro-nuclear stance has cooled a bit since Fukushima?

I actually liked the chapter in Brand's book about the genetic engineering of crops. But I doubt agribiz can be sustained without adequate energy.

My brother just returned from a big energy conference in Texas. He is CFO of a privately-owned company in Utah that mines coal and generates electricity. His company knows that they are doomed. They know that CO2 is bad, and they are planning to shut down operations when they can't operate at a profit. He also informed me that in the next 10 years, my home energy bill is going to triple. In San Jose, I can live most of the year without turning on the heat or air-conditioner. But folks living in Arizona, etc., are going to fry when they can't pay there electric bill. Seems to me that we won't be able to survive without modern nuclear power plants.

Arizona has been betrayed by the Supreme Court - its Sovereinty denied. Aliens are given the green light to invade. The Arizona Law was virutally identical with Federal Statutes. It was only passed in the first place because the Feds refused to enforce their own laws.

I thought they were a bunch of rednecks!

Is this true?

The Monsanto family were the first documented Jewish settlers to have migrated to New Orleans from the Netherlands in 1758. They were known slave owners and slave traders of 18th century. In 1901, the Monsanto family founded their eponymous chemical company. Its history is intimately linked to the production and promotion of highly toxic chemicals such as the herbicide, Agent Orange (used as a chemical weapon in the Vietnam war, resulting in 400,000 deaths and disabilities, and 500,000 children born with birth defects), and PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls, which can affect fertility, child development, the immune system, and increase the risk of certain cancers).

"The Jewish Monsanto Family of Louisiana included Benjamin, Isaac, Manuel, Eleanora, Gracia and Jacob. They made frequent purchases of Blacks including twelve in 1785, thirteen and then thirty-one in 1787, and eighty in 1768.

In 1794, Benjamin sold "Babet," a Black woman, to Franco Cardel. Manuel sold two Blacks from Guinea named "Polidor" and "Lucy" to James Saunders for $850 in silver.

As individuals they were owners of Africans whom they named "Quetelle," "Valentin," "Baptiste," "Prince," "Princess," "Ceasar," "Dolly," "Jen," "Fanchonet," "Rozetta," "Mamy," "Sofia," and many others. Isaac repeatedly mortgaged four of these when in financial trouble. Benjamin Monsanto of Natchez, Mississippi entered into at least 6 contracts for the sale of his slaves which would take place after his death. Gracia bequeathed nine Africans to her relatives in her 1790 will, and Eleanora also held Blacks as slaves....

actually, yes, i have...i found it not to be that damned difficult most of the time...never said it was easy or convenient, but i ll survive...

Gosh, there's nothing technology can't do.
Hey how about some Tech Company mottos for inspiration?
"Doing well by doing good" {Monsanto}
"We never forget who we're working for" {Lockheed Martin}
"Sponsors of Tomorrow" {Intel}

And now from Hang the Bankers.com comes:
The Insects are Watching: The Future of Government Surveillance Technology
http://www.hangthebankers.com/the-insects-are-watching-the-future-of-government-surveillance-technology/
"...In June of 2011, the US military admitted to having drone technology so sophisticated that it could be the size of a bug.
In what is referred to as the “microaviary” on Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, drones are in development and design to replicate the flight patterns of moths, hawks and other air-borne creatures of the natural world.
Greg Parker, aerospace engineer, explains: “We’re looking at how you hide in plain sight” for the purpose of carrying out espionage or kill missions…."

And from the Mother of Invention
Spy-Butterfly: Israel developing insect drone for indoor surveillance
http://www.rt.com/news/israel-drone-indoor-butterfly-672/

The future is here and this is not a butterfly on your wall, as Israeli drones are getting tiny. Their latest project – a butterfly-shaped drone weighing just 20 grams - the smallest in its range so far – can gather intelligence inside buildings.

Their motto is:

"We can fly this baby up your Ass"

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"And while technology can't fix everything, we do live a sight better than those who frequented the African steppes."

Actually that's not true. Hunter gatherers live in a natural state which matches the way we were built to live, modern life does not. Modern life causes depression, stress and disease.

Before civilization weakened the stock sparse populations had very long life spans. The high point in our unsustainable run was thirty thousand years ago when an average life span (if you survived childhood) was seventy years and food was abundant because mega-fauna was not yet extinct. Technology has been reducing our standard of living ever since.

Tried & true dept.

Our friend, "The Official Guide Of The Railways" from decades past shows Aspen, Colorado served by the Denver & Rio Grande Western. Who knows what this generation of visionaries (read half-wits) would say if the passenger depot were still open for business? Quaint? Passe'? "Too industrial?" Oh, how about "Out of scale with the environment... -In The Rocky Mountains!

The Aspen Institute and "Culture Change" are examples of panacea peddlers who somehow missed the Railway gene in their early development, and proceeded with their programs of futuristic pablum. At least, Jan Lundberg's infatuation with sailboats has some merit; sail shares a hobby element with trains. But trains really do offer more in the way of knitting the Union together...

But bigger things lurk in the wings: the armor shuffling about in the Oil Patch will soon divert our attention from gadgetry and elite wine tasting outings. The Aspen set shall soon consider the virtues of having a working railway platform in walking distance.

"Technology developed to flee the extremely difficult life in the trees."

Actually the trees started disappearing when the climate of Africa dried out due to the rise of the Himalayan Mountains. Had the tree cover not become sparse technology would not have developed and we would still be living like bonobos.

The great fascist state of Colorado, where Ward Churchill was lynched for what used to be one's right to free speech, where the courts allowed the pigs to arrest kids at Boulder University for rallying at their legalize marijuanna day, where the legislature debated whether they should adapt John Denver's Rocky Mountain High as their state song or whatever because they couldn't figure out if Denver was referring to smoking pot or not (are these people fucking retarded or what? in his song poems, prayers, and promises he talks about passing around the pipe...fucking nazi cocksuckers). Let the whole goddamned state burn down, can't happen soon enough for me. Also, where they celebrate Christopher Columbus Day. Racist Nazi fucktards, let them all burn in hell. Fuck Colorado. There is some good news today, however THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 1876 > Indians defeat Custer at Little Big Horn. Now there is a reason to be happy, the fucker got what he deserved.

NOTE TO CFNers

Please check out on Opednews two articles on TPP Trans Pacific Partnership. The world is being run for and by the transnational corporations and banks.

You might actually want to contact your sens and reps and let them know you are holding them accountable.

If this thing goes through you can say goodbye to any legal protections against these global entities and it will interfere with every aspect of your lives.

Even more true of Obama. At least Jim tells some truths in the process of having a good time.

Sephardic Jews centered in Newport, Rhode Island, controlled much of the American Slave Trade. Read "The Grandees". Funny how this doesn't get taught in Academia.

Red necks named Monsanto? Are you sirius? I thought they were Italians!

John Kerry's real family name is Koch. Kerry is not a real Irish name, but rather a made up one.
A classic Jewish tactic. Trotsky's real name was Lev Bronstein.

There could be no America without the conquest of the Indians. You are enjoying the fruits of the conquest even now as you type. To trash White Explorers and Conquerors is not such a slam dunk you see - unless you are willin to live as your ancestors did or in the case of Blacks, go back to Africa.

Now that is a decent rant. Good going. And to hell with pretty much every other state also. The whole state of Colorado has gone over to the dark side thanks to the blind idiots that think their conservative agendas are just what the world needs. Nazi Kochsuckers all.

"The hyper-rich are facing something worse than death: becoming poor. Do you think they will go quietly? I think they will do whatever it takes and sell it to us in the name of 'saving the system.'"

David Malone, Debt Generation

http://www.golemxiv.co.uk/

No, that is simple tool usage.

If I pick up a stick to brain someone or scratch in the dirt, that's only using a tool. The tool itself didn't have to be created.

Way to late for that B. Time to hunker down. Hope you know New York like Louise knows Chicago. Perhaps you could take refuge under the city - become a mole person.

Ever heard of the wacky concept of low impact technology?
Society could've worked around, with, even in addition to the environment. Instead we 'had to' twist it's arm and separate ourselves wholly from it, completely denature our species, instead of retaining the positive aspects of our former nature.
But,for a person that hates this overwhelming society as is; that still doesn't mean that I think humans should live in primitive, backward deprivation just to safeguard the environment at all costs to ourselves.

Yeah, to hell with the Constitution. Throw open the borders and embrace our replacements.

Whites are in the same situation as the Indians were in relation to us. And we are making the same mistakes as they did.

Indians with commonsense are supporting White against the Mexicans. After all, their treaties are with us, not Mexico.

...this may be our technological "whistling in the graveyard".
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The far more common version of this expression is "whistling past the graveyard."

Note also, the period ending the sentence goes before, not after the quotation marks. I know, it's counter-intuitive.

So according to Vlad John Kerry's family is/was Jewish. He provides that bit of irrelevant garbage as though it means something, as though he's just discovered a major cover-up that changes everything about the man.

I don't get it. What signficance does that assertion carry? What difference does it make to anything? We're all just humans, equipped with the same physical and intellectual abilities. The only characteristic that differentiates us is our sex. The rest is all a product of upbringing.

Unrealized expectations - here we come!

Remember 2001 - the monkey man throws a stick unto the stars and on the third try it becomes a space ship.

As I said, a common Jewish strategy - in this case to trick Irish American voters.

We're all the same? Then why do you want to eliminate Whites? Why do you hate Traditional People so much?

You don't believe women are equal to men - you think yourself superior.

So wrong on all points as usual.

' "enviroment" '
Nor can you, unless that was meant as a joke.

Once in a local 'junk' store I saw a book,
'The [glorious] History of Montsanto' [pub 1970?]
Maybe check it out, if it can be found.

something is there
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Is your post a mistake or am I just to thick to get it?

Bahrain democracy advocates are now protesting the USA for its merchants of deaths sending arms
===============

The plural of merchant of death is merchants of death, not merchants of deaths. It's just like brothers-in-law.

EEE GADS....'CYANIDE GRASS'

The tomatoes are coming up nicely. As far as technology goes, my Winchester 1894 is pretty much the only technology I'm interested in these days. When all this electronic junk is corroding in the scrapyard, and the Big Screen TVs have bullseyes crudely painted on their screens to use as target practice, my c1950 Winchester 1894 will still be cycling that venerable .30-30 round without a hitch.

You didn't mention Obama doesn't like our National Anthem and wants it changed. That 'Diversity' and 'Tolerance' will be a major theme in the new anthem goes without saying, with illegals, homos and tranvesites figuring promimently in each verse.

--WSP7

--WSP7

' lioned '...LIONIZED

Essential utilites I define as those amenities needed to sustain life and make a creditable job application.
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I have never before heard of a utility making a job application and if one ever did I would hope for its sake it was credible not creditable.

Canary in the coalmine.
I believe your assessment is correct.

Good stuff you write. IMHO.

Yep.
What a concept. affordable housing.

I agree housing should be 30% of total income.
What is going on is Wrong and Greedy.

Power trippers.
it's about Power Over others.

I once read a book about $$ Silicon Valley.
Most of them it's about Power not Money.

Sick puppies. IMHO.

I think he means Electronic Technology.

That's how I read it.

What about a 'reverse attitude'? That the collapse be welcomed?

Or does that mean 'the sell off of the Acropolis' and alot more,to the 1%?

good going. home grown bell peppers, and everything else.
nothing like it.

ONE zucchini at the store is 1.00 here westcoast ca.

plant some zucchini, and yellow cucumbers, lemon cucumbers are 1.50 apiece about right now.

time is here now. hard times that is.
gardens not lawns.

Women Might be Superior ! I'm not sure tho.
Kinda sorta looks that way. Sometimes.

The view from Aspen might be bleak, but here in the Heartland, they are building and selling houses again. Talk to any Real Estate Agent. They are having the best year since the housing crash.

Thank You for the information.

The fatal flaw in all of the machinations of the Aspen Institute and kindred organizations: How to materially change things for the better without disadvantaging any of the current "haves". This is equivalent to the irresistible force meeting the immoveable object. The best one can hope for is a Mexican standoff. The worst is some kind of indeterminate outcome, resulting in a breakdown and calamity. More colloquially, they want to change things without really changing things. Too bad that defies logic. That's why they invoke "Deus ex machina" AKA technology. For something to work that defies logic, you need a miracle. No problem. Technology will provide that. This from supposedly mature adults. God help us.

Wow, Cockroaches with Cameras !

So an acquaintance of mine spent the weekend driving to Syracuse, shopping, and then home to Ontario again. Lots of our locals do that, and say that it's worth it to motor on past Watertown to the Salt city, where legend has it the shopping is much cheaper. Not so close to the border, they say.

While he was gone I did a little reading about Syracuse, and while it's a bigger city by far than our County seat, Cobourg, the story is the same. Extracting and selling salt got them started, they had access to water and later, railroads. Boom times. For us it was farming, and wood, and making liquor and beer. Lots of manufacturing until the 70's, then a slow decline ever since.

I read about the big mall built there a few years ago, and a light rail transit line that was built to get folks there. It shut down when nobody was using it. My pal says the mall is still there but much reduced, with most of the space given over to car dealerships now. I doubt they're doing well from his description of the place in general.

He was disapointed, says the deals just weren't as good as in years past. Too bad, our prime minister has just raised the cash limit for junk we can buy and bring back home on even a day trip. All part of blending our borders, a move that many of us on the Left are uneasy about. We don't want to blend with you losers, we have enough problems of our own, like the right wing take-over of our federal government.

And we march steadily down the rolling hill of Peak Civilisation, not noticing how the incline is getting steeper all the time.

Those who are willing to use less should be paying lower rates, not just less money, but LOWER RATES as well.
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What a unique idea...totally the reverse of what every businessman since the great flood knows intuitively. This would turn on its head the concept of the quantity discount where the more you buy the lower the unit cost you will be charged. But you would have it the opposite; that utility companies would encourage their customers to use less units (of electricity, water, etc) lowering the utility company's top line Sales number and therefore it's bottom line profit so as to run themselves into bankruptcy all the sooner. Makes perfect sense to me. The chair position at the Wharton School of Business is open I believe. I'll put in a word for you.

Once this strategy becomes more widely known maybe movie theaters will charge a lower ticket price to people who come to the movies least frequently.

When I think about this idea of your's that you espouse with a perfectly straight face (one might say with the naivete of a three year old), I am not the least surprised that your attempts to explain the basic facts of life for working people to self-styled progressives at DK and other sites, has been to no avail.

"useless eaters', as Henry Kissinger thinks of them as
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OMG, the dreaded double as.

Desperado, drop the second as and your sentence will sound much better.

So according to Vlad John Kerry's family is/was Jewish. He provides that bit of irrelevant garbage as though it means something, as though he's just discovered a major cover-up that changes everything about the man.
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No Grouchy, I believe you are misconstruing Vlad's intent. I am certain Vlad wants us all to know that John Kerry, as a Jew, is more than likely smarter than the rest of the US population on average. Don't be such a grouch ;0)

The whole state of Colorado has gone over to the dark side thanks to the blind idiots that think their conservative agendas are just what the world needs.

Not "the whole state" Malthus; in fact,not even half the state - Colorado elected Hickenlooper Gov by a comfortable margin.

And Obama will take Colorado...and New Mexico...and Nevada...and...

As Asoka has been mentioning, Obama is sitting pretty good in terms of the electoral college. But why should I care anyway; you know, there's no difference between a Rep and a Dem...as if Clarence Thomas = Ruth Ginsburg.

But I'll bet Vlad now believes in the idiosyncrasy of Supreme Court justices after today's ruling regarding Arizona.

Quite true - she should stop wronging and start righting.

Nice save. You're a good wingman but in this case, I'll own to what I said. Think about it: think that Jews wouldn't care if an Irishman pretended to be a Jew? Or do you think that Jews don't care about voting for their own whenever possible?

Thanks!

I guess I don't understand the problem.
Technology is neutral. It depends on who is using it and for what purpose.

"Poor Stewart Brand. How the mighty have fallen. Stewart's conversion to the wonders of nuclear power to 'fix' our energy future looks pitiful in light of Fukishima liberally spreading radioactive 'Pixie Dust' all over California and the Bay area where Stewart lives his poser life-style in Sausalito on a swank tugboat.

Wait until the seafood starts testing out as radioactive and watch the effect at Fisherman's Wharf on sales." -D.

I think what Stewie is going to miss the most are his book revenues and [undeserved] slavering acclaim.
The man can be identified as a prime asshole just in his introduction of luminaries to his vaunted podium. (Now that's a really strange phenomenon; pointing to oneself by proxy.)

Refreshing to see the misdirection being soundly ignored this week by those of a wider (and more critical) perception. My compliments.

"Desperado, drop the second "as" and your sentence will sound much better." Q

Correct; your point will be more succinctly made and its' accuracy will remain unchallenged.

Make no mistake, to the very elite worldmasters this is all merely a game of pride, anger, pleasure. They have events mostly firmly in control.


I reserve the right to be wrong.
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"mostly firmly in control" --- now that's reassuring. I always have to laugh when people tell me how the "powers that be" have it all worked out. Not really, they are all fighting amongst themselves to get all they can, often while they are thus distracted the SHTF. That, my friend, is world economic history in a nutshell.

I'd keep your reservation, if I were you.

Nice, we can grow cyanide now, that will save a lot of money when Vlad's friends restart the murder camps.

What about a 'reverse attitude'? That the collapse be welcomed?
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You're starting to sound like Asoka now. You know....that "contrary indian" thing from "Little Big Man"? You say "hello" when you mean "goodbye" and ride your horse backwards. You been eating that cyanide grass?

Talk to any Real Estate Agent. They are having the best year since the housing crash.
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I've never heard them claim anything else. The term realtors use for "lying" is "being enthusiastic." As in.....well, ya have to "be enthusiastic" about your job ya know? I'd believe Jerry Sandusky is innocent before I took anything a RE agent said to be accurate.

From the looks of it the world's credit system is headed for another close call at a lock up, meaning that trust and faith amongst the people who count is at a low. Then all our little gripes will get a real big adjustment.

And one last thing, the notion you left of center folks have of being morally superior, and that is catered to by the oligarchs and plutocrats, well them days is drawing to close. Thought I would warn you.

speaking of asoka -- what's with this Ohso shit? Isn't that the magical little turd who bought the town in Oregon and developed a group to run it that would make the NKVD look tame? No wonder you get everything backwards, listening to the simpleton shit.

And one last thing, the notion you left of center folks have of being morally superior, and that is catered to by the oligarchs and plutocrats, well them days is drawing to close. Thought I would warn you.
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Does that mean your parents are going to let you off the chain in their basement?

Curious about Kerry so I googled it:
The name was Kohn and they converted to Catholocism and changed their name to Kerry in the old country. Late 1800's.

Shadows from the starlight. Thanks for that image.
It is a transcendent experience to be in the moment on a clear night and stare into the not so Void.

I also was curious as to the name change [infiltrators, traitors or 'mainstreaming'].
What I found is the 3rd, non practicing Judaism for 2-3 generations.
Now perhaps some will say, nay, infiltrators.

Just returned from a failed shopping trip, but found
Viola, what looks like the first 'Peak Oil' book.'THE WORLD AFTER OIL' BY Nussbaum. 1983

Forget Rajneesh / Osho. Hes SOOO 1980s.

Did you listen to the 59 minute talk by Ms Fitts?
And what did you think, if you did listen?

I always have to laugh when people tell me how the "powers that be" have it all worked out. Not really, they are all fighting amongst themselves to get all they can, often while they are thus distracted the SHTF. That, my friend, is world economic history in a nutshell.

a)For someone who allegedly is 'well credentialed' and writes professionally on business you sure don't bother to read posts very carefully.

a1)My original post does not use the doomer phrase 'powers that be' - it specifically mentions China, Germany, the US, IMF etc. within the context of their power struggles. Are they not powers, in any case?

b) Your statement: "Not really, they are all fighting amongst themselves to get all they can. That, my friend, is world economic history in a nutshell"

b1)...HELLO, this is precisely what I said when I wrote "This is more accurately a game of control played by huge international blocs such as the IMF, China, Germany, the US."

I then went on to specifically mention what it is they are trying to get control of: oil, power, debts.
I even wrote, with respect to your point about fighting amongst themselves: "...gain advantage over other big players".

Here is my original post, which very well speaks to every point you bring up as having been lacking:

"This is more accurately a game of control played by huge international blocs such as the IMF, China, Germany, the US. These players hold certain trump cards (e.g. China owns most of our debt=claims against taxes, IMF wants to control politics in Europe/Africa etc; US wants to control petroleum production) and want to see certain factions in power in Europe and elsewhere.

They want these factions to gain advantage over other big players, for example the US allies with Middle East oil producers to keep China boxed in.


Helps to read the post and not jump to very poor 'critique'.


peace peaceniks

Utilities are part of the infrastructure which supports industrial civilization. They are a public good just as are roads and parks, and are qualitatively different from widgets. They need to be managed for the public good, not for the private profit of a few investors.

I think the guy who wants to maintain his 5 bedroom mansion at a constant temp of F80 degrees should not be subsidized by thousands of more frugal ratepayers.

My point is about ethics, not business, and has nothing to do with what might be taught in business school.

Did you listen to the 59 minute talk by Ms Fitts?
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can you repost?

"mostly firmly in control"
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I guess that's the part the stuck out. IMO, they are "mostly loosely out of control"

" The place gave off eerie intimations of a ghost town in-the-making.

This weekend I watched the documentary "Plagues and Pleasures on the Salton Sea" which tells the story of the southern California lake that was accidentally created a hundred years ago when canals were dug to divert Colorado River water into the Imperial valley for agriculture. This was before any dams had been built on the river and high runoff in 1905 washed out the canal locks and flooded the valley. Lying below sea level, there was no natural outlet for this water, so a new lake was born. Real estate developers moved in starting in the 1920s and by the 1950s the place had become a sort of working class Riviera and plans were afoot for new resort cities that would be as popular as Palm Springs or Las Vegas. But the inability to control the water level resulted in flooded properties and the accumulation of agricultural runoff turned this ephemeral little paradise into a stinky, briney cesspool. What's left over makes for a fine study in abandoned dreams. The one area of growth here is in the use of the desolate towns that dot the area as dumping grounds for welfare cases from the cities to the west.

If the Colorado River were likened to an ailimentary canal, then the snowy mountains that are havens for resorts like Aspen would be its mouth and the Salton Sea would be its colostomy bag - an prosthetic appendage that receives the artificially diverted flow and acts as a storage receptacle for the noxious filth that has been picked up along the way.

Here's the trailer with some poetically morbid narration by John Waters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atgg7t4XbPk

From top: Chen Jinheng, a beekeeper within Miyun county works aboard one of his movable-frame hives. A Chinese honeybee pollinates a birthmark blossom The lonely story bureau building based on the blueprint of a walnut timberline hive is a landmark at a Chinese beekeeping demonstration garden within Miyun shire Photos Provided apt . Cheng Anqi / .



China's indigenous honeybee is fighting as adaptation following the introduction of the fruitful Italian honeybee plus increasing environmental degradation. Stories according Cheng Anqi.


Huangyukou village surrounded Miyun county northeast Beijing,is outstanding for Chinese chaste trees (Vitex negundo) that cater highest of the drink for North China's indigenous honeybees - which are mysteriously vanishing.


Chen Jinheng's first colony of honeybees was taken from trees amid his lawn meantime he was 11 years old.


With 10 other beekeepers amid the village, Chen started apt study generally beekeeping from apiculture writings and eventually formed seven colonies every colony has fewer than 30,beijing tours,000 honey bees) at the kill of the 1960s.


"Western bees are generally reserved amid movable-frame hives,even though Chinese honeybees adore alive among aboriginal hives cut out of walnut timberline trunks," says the 76-year-old, pointing out dozens of walnut-tree cylinders nestled aboard the mountain.


In the late 1970s, the 1st cartel of Italian beekeepers and their Italian bees) from Zhejiang province came to Miyun apt collect chaste honey. The foreign species however transmitted sacbrood virus that often fatally infected the pupae of indigenous bees.


"On several early mornings, a huge dumbo mass of bees flew away from the harvest and I believe they escaped apt the mountains to take refuge Shen says.


More than 20 colonies of bees flew yonder or died, which cost Shen dearly. Each colony was worth 80 yuan ($13) and could feed five folk as a month at that time.


After the infection, the digit of beekeepers diluted from 10 to three. Since afterward Italian bees accept transform popular nationwide because they produce more royal pudding plus are more fertile.


But Shen has a appropriate fondness as China's indigenous honeybee and says the drink source among Miyun of six,300 hectares of chaste trees - plus linden and angel trees - generate the best honey.


"Chinese honeybees accept a 30 percent higher pollination rate as angel trees compared with Italian bees," Shen says. "Even by inexpensive temperatures, the binding Chinese bees begin work two hours earlier than their similarities plus they are quite appealing by collecting scattered drink sources, which puts their Italian adversaries amid the screen"


Zhang Jinshuo, a professor at the Institute of Zoology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, says meantime the temperature namely beneath 14 C, Chinese bees gather on average three times the drink that Italian bees do,accordingly making their honey more alimental.


This is why Shen introduced again two hives of bees from neighboring Xinglong county of Hebei province,within the 1970s,plus there were 10 colonies along the late 1980s,while reform plus opening-up led to the quick expansion of China's apiculture. Even so,highest apiarists concentrated on propagating Italian colonies apt construct commercial apiaries.


Miyun had only seven colonies of Italian bees among 1980,but four years after there were more than 300 that produced 15 tons of honey each annual posing a threat apt the continued subsistence of indigenous bees.


"Due apt ponderous rains in 1989 there were floods that washed away swarms of Italian bees surrounded low-lying places so Chinese bees were sustainable," Shen recollections.


Later,however the introduction of pesticides and herbicides accustom as alphabetical agriculture killed off more than 200 colonies of bees among Huangyukou.


Li Zhanming, who started beekeeping within 1992 and owns generally 30 colonies, says: "Herbicides killed off almost half of my bees."


At the abolish of 2009, Rao Shizhong set up a beekeeping cooperative and a 12,600-hectare Chinese beekeeping demonstration garden amid order apt defend Chinese bees.


Each daily the village's 26 Chinese honeybee keepers generate 5,000 kg of honey, bringing among more than 300,000 yuan ($47,634).


The honey namely abysmal surrounded color plus tastes fragrant,plus the wholesale cost namely 13 yuan per kg, three times more than the honey of Italian bees.


Even so,acquaintance professor of Huazhong Agricultural University Zhang Xinjun, from Hubei province, says he is extremely concerned generally the future of Chinese bees.


"It is inevitable the Italian bees impale Chinese queen bees," Zhang explains. "They cannot coexist."


A fruitful Chinese queen bee can lay about an,500 eggs amid 24 hours and has an average lifespan of between three apt five years,notwithstanding they can live up apt nine years.


Since the introduction of Italian bees surrounded 1896, the Chinese honeybee's territory has been dwindled forward more than 75 percentage Only small populations are base among Beijing, Hubei province plus Sichuan province's Aba Tibetan plus Qiang autonomous prefecture.


Zhang says records from 10 years antecedent recommend about 70 percent of peasants amid Shennongjia forest district reserved Chinese bees. "But immediately it has dripped to about 10 percent he says.


"Over the past centenary Italian bees have basically seized the plains areas of China, so that Chinese bees have gradually retreated apt the mountains," Zhang says.


In contempo years, Chinese bees accept died off alternatively escaped among big numbers,merely the occasion for this namely anonymous.


"Due to deforestation, land reclamation,extravagant use of pesticides, environmental pollution and additional factors, the alive environment of Chinese bees has been impacted," Zhang says.


Now, apiaries of Chinese bees aboard both sides of mountain roads that accustom to be common,have about evaporated Flowers plus plants evolve with bees, so they need each additional to survive. Without bees or other inset pollinators, you won't obtain any fruits and vegetables, the professor says.

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We are pissing away the precious few moments that remain. Nobody wants to step up and make a decision, so things just continue to fester. When all the children in the world are crying perhaps the time will come to become a parent. Then what, endless graveyards and continuous funerals? The reality and gravity of the situation are just too brutal, so we do the sleepwalk.

Regarding your link to robotic spy insects, have you seen the film "The Fifth Element" in which a remote controlled spy cockroach infiltrated the president's office? It was funny then, scary when government spooks are inspired by such notions and have an unlimited budget to bring them to fruition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrHMBletjXg

Years ago, I read an article about hypothetical future weapons. One of them was the use of swarms of artificial flying bugs, each carrying a tiny explosive payload, that could converge on a target whereupon a detonator bug would set off an explosion. Now I'll be more careful what I swat.

Desperado -

Why don't you come to your senses?

Iona

"Now I'll be more careful what I swat."

I like to use a BB gun on 'em.

"The reality and gravity of the situation are just too brutal, so we do the sleepwalk."

It is mankind's capacity for the normalcy bias that allows them all to go on without jumping off a cliff, or some such desperate act. Islands full of deadly chemicals, silos stuffed with lethal missiles, and everything controlled by the people who made them to use them. Just close your eyes and pretend it will all go away.

If you would paccredit to have a chatter into Beijing'Yesterday, you are acutely acclaimed to have a abbreviate chance cruise to the Hutongs old alleyways or siheyuan, the traccessional courtyard reancillarynces). You may analyze the antipodected and angled lanes aboard bottom,by pedicab alternatively onward bike.


1. A prauguryade along adadumbrationl Chengxian Street, the east-west artery alphaing abender 700 yaerial ago with its architectonicss complete in line with age-old Chinese community,once one of the China's maximum acceptationant humanist centers.- the Confucius Temple and Guozijian (Imperial College). On the access you anxious visit "Rongbu Tang" with a aeon age adroitness at its bazaar abundance aboard Chengxinjie artery. The caption of Rongbu Tang is accustomed to a notable cbulkman - Tang Qiliang, a well-known ancient abilitysman in crowduction toys with featherlike abstracts including absolute and affection (rongbu) which is listes as the inactual cultural heritage in China.


2. Asccatastrophe the 4-beat top and two-adventure boom Tower dating from 1420,watbuttong the coaccidental drum forbeard and accepting bird's eye appearance of the nigh commassemblageies of hutongs and siheyuan - absolute acceptable Beijing.


3. Walk along Yandai Xiejie ( Tobacco aqueduct Lean Stimberlinet ), a anomalyus 800-year-old hutong amid anon arctic of Yinding Bbackbone amid Qianhai and Houhai and the south of the Drum Tower,acclimated to be acclaimed as bartersmen of long-axismed pipes,wanon the baptize Standing aboard the Silver Ingot Bridge ( Yinding Bridge ) , a bigoted alley abutting Qianhai Lake and the Houhai Lake, the apple of Shichhai area with nigh quiet hutongs.


4. Visiting the Prince Gong' Mansion. It was once the clandestine animate area of He Shen, a admired abbot of Emperor Qianlong of the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911), it was 1st complete in 1777. In 1851, the mansion was attacked to Prince Gong forward Emperor Xianfeng (1851-1862),Beijing villa rent,areaaloft the name Now it is the bestmum able-bodied bottled mansion in Beijing.


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6. Taffiliatedg a ship canoeing aanimald the Shichahai basin in the centermost of old Beijing. The lake is the alone actual baptize adjustment dating aback-up to the Yuan Dynasty (13th Century). The lake namely a breathtaking area with 34 hectares which namely aural alee anatomyer princes'abodes,able aloof Chinese cloisterbackyards and abidenassessment of celebrities.


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8. Immersing with an accustomed family courtyard home acquireing cafeteria tactuality and exploring the complete arenaal activity in Beijing. In accession, you tin accept a duke-on acquaintance with Beijing Opera composition and achievement acquirements!


9. Visiting the former address of Mr.Mei Lanbarb (1894 - 1961),the best known Beijing Opera adept anytime the abundantest artist the apple,columnist of one of the three greaanalysis acting adjustments actualized onward Shakeextrae Stanislavsky and Meilanfang.


10. Visiting the above abode of Soong Ching Ling ( 1890-1981 ), already a garden of one of the Qing Dyawful princes's abodes. She was backward Honorary Chairman of the People's Reaccessible of China, be accepted as "the Madded of China".

"The Monsanto family were the first documented Jewish settlers to have migrated to New Orleans from the Netherlands in 1758."

Not another Jewish family involved in questionable activities! I'm a goy, but I'm beginning to feel embarrassed for them. At least they're not using their media entertainment control to promote unhealthy values.

You been out ridin' fences for so long now.
Oh, your a hard one.
I know that you got your reasons.

Well fancy that. Some Jews engaging in bad behavior. Let's bring that out in the open. They were the only ones engaged in buying and selling slaves? Must be, because no Christians of any denomination would ever, in history, be involved in slavery.

So what's the point in mentioning Jews in this regard? I always hear that American whites in the 19th century bought and sold slaves. But when the subject is broached, I never hear it described that Christians were involved. So why do some people have to go out of their way to point out that Jews were? Jews have good and bad points like any group of Christians. Maybe it has to do with something like anti-semitism, hmm?

One of them was the use of swarms of artificial flying bugs, each carrying a tiny explosive payload, that could converge on a target whereupon a detonator bug would set off an explosion. Now I'll be more careful what I swat.
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let's hope their not crab lice.

What bullshit. The fact of massive Jewish involment has been covered up for generations. Academics focused on White Christian slavers exclusively and assiduously ignored the Black and Jewish role. And now when the secret is out, you act like you're being discriminated against!

You are so crooked I'm surprised you can walk down the street by yourself.

Shame on you. White Nationalists are the most persecuted group in America. Look at how they railroaded Edgar Steele into prison with false tapes.

Let's start a reading group. The Nation of Islam publishs a book about the role of Jews in slavery called "The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews".

Bill loves Blacks and will want to join.

The asian blogbot is in fine form this week.
"... outstanding for Chinese chaste trees (Vitex negundo) that cater highest of the drink for North China's indigenous honeybees..."

Chaste trees
Drinking bees
What does this suggest?

I've wondered the thickets
Been serenaded by crickets
But never a sprout did I molest
Nor try a buggy bar to infest.

There is a service being offered on the internet now that is doing for automated social media posting what software like Blogger did for personal blogs, namely to make it easy for novice users to start an online presence which had previously required a certain degree of technical knowledge. A company called Philter Phactory is offering a free software program called "Weavr" which allows users to create an online version of themselves which can independently troll the internet and aquire data from the websites it visits to enhance its own artificial personality. A Weavr is created with a set of interests which may include a list of preferred websites, blogs, social media sites, etc. that form the nucleus its identity. Once unleashed, it proceeds to visit these sites and learn from their content so as to expand its own repertoire and vocabulary. A Weavr can even have its very own Twitter account which anyone can follow.

It all sounds like a plot device from a William Gibson novel, but just scroll through the posts here and imagine what we'll be reading ten years from now when they have matured into adult bots with the whole of written language to model themselves upon. Will humans fall in love with Weavrs? Will Weavrs fall in love with us? Or hate us? Or develop a virtual society amongst themselves, modeled on human interactions?

I compute, therefore I am.

"One of them was the use of swarms of artificial flying bugs, each carrying a tiny explosive payload,..."

Dude. Czech it. This person(?) knocked on my door, unannounced. So I answer wondering just WTF could keep me from Hawaii 5-0 re-runs.

A being of in-determinant origin with a nice tie handed me a business card from a realtor in Tempe, AZ (I'm in Burbank, CA). IT said "You must form a Reading Group about Vlad and his relationships with animal handlers in zoo's throughout North America".

I'm sorry. I just had to shut the door. I'm still thinking about what happened.

Thank you for checking. That's all I ever asked if that people look into what I say. And if I'm wrong, I want to know about it. In this case, I got the name wrong: I said Koch I think.

Also check out Trotsky and his cohort - mostly Jews with assumed Russian names.

I just got a call soliciting for breast cancer. I politely declined but she wouldn't take no for an answer. Then I said that prostate cancer was being underfunded and that men should get more money - she dissapeared in a flash like throwing water on a cat or a witch.

"Nor try a buggy bar to infest."

I have nary a chance. Traded me hymnal fer the services of a stout, CRANK bitin' wench. YEEARGH!

Remember the movie Dune? They had assasination type metallic drones. The military now has hand held drone missiles that can get at enemies behind ridges etc.

Is Condi a lesbo? And if so, would this help garner the lesbo vote if she's the veep?

"I just got a call soliciting for breast cancer. I politely declined but she wouldn't take no for an answer."

I guess ya shoulda' shown her yer tits.

And wouldn't it be cool if her and Romney were caught in flagrante delicto in the "oval" office?

Think of all the seminars and ovulars it would generate througout the land! And the coffee and doughnuts demand? It could generate an economic upturn. As the poet said, you cannot trouble a butterfly without disturbing a star.

Yeah why don't we have visi phones yet? OR DO WE?

Damn, you're like Dick Tracy.

During one of his Long Now Foundation events, Stewart Brand said the only reason for new technology was to correct the problems brought on by the current and past technologies.

The greatest "technical" innovation of our lifetimes may be an observation made by Allan Savory (savoryinstitute.com) that improperly herded animals cause desertification. To correct it, we merely have to mimic the natural behavior herbivores exhibit when they are threatened by predators. A farmer can do it alone with just a few hundred dollars of electrified moveable fencing. It's a ridiculously simple, cheap idea that could literally turn around our most severe environmental problems (including increasing CO2). But it's so cheap, you'll probably never hear about it. You'll just hear that only GMOs can feed the world.

I might add that Savory's technique typically involves doubling the number of herbivores (cows, buffalo, etc.) that would normally be there before. If you know a local struggling animal farmer, tell them to look up Savory's work. It could literally mean the difference between a profitable farm and a farm lost to the bank.

this is it, or similar:

Catherine Austin Fitts :
Deliberate Implosion of the U.S. Economy ...
► 56:2

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHTs6NqhHHgFeb 19, 2011 - 56 min - Uploaded by nwotaser
http://www.infowars.com/catherine-austin-fitts-the-looting-of-america/

http://solari. com http://www.prisonplan

May all your White Rice be moving.

To the person who stated that Monsanto was founded in Louisiana by Jews intent on world domination...... please do a little bit of research.

Monsanto was founded in St. Louis by John Francis Queeny. The Queeny name continues to be prominent in that city and many local facilities are named after it. He gave the company his wife's family name, Monsanto.

It's doubtful that Queeny was Jewish as he was a member of the Knights of Malta, which is a conservative Catholic order. Nearly every prominent old St. Louis family is Catholic, as were the founding families, who were French.

China's Producer Price Index (PPI), a main gauge of inflation at the wholesale level, remained unchanged in February from a year earlier, the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) said Friday.

The zero-growth reading, the lowest since December 2009, further eased from 0.7 percent in January, after hitting a 31-month high of 7.5 percent in July last year, NBS data showed.

The PPI grew 0.1 percent from January to February, after recording month on month drops for four straight months since October last year, the NBS said in a statement on its website.

Meanwhile, producer purchase prices grew 1 percent year on year in February and 0.1 percent from a month ago, the NBS said.

In the first two months of this year,Beijing lodging, the PPI climbed 0.4 percent year on year, while producer purchase prices gained 1.5 percent during the period, the NBS said.

Room for further declines in PPI growth seems small, analysts said, citing that rising prices of major international commodities, particularly crude oil, are again pushing up costs of production materials.

Prices of production materials increased 0.2 percent month on month in February, according to the NBS.

"Resurging global commodity prices, especially the price of crude oil, will undoubtedly raise costs for domestic manufacturing and service industries, pushing up consumer prices," said Chen Kexin, an analyst with the distribution productivity promotion center of China Commerce.

About 55 types of 100 commodities tracked by 100PPI.com, a major Chinese commodity data provider, saw price gains in February, with prices of agricultural products rising the most due to bad weather in South America.

China Merchants Securities, based in the southern city of Shenzhen, predicted that PPI growth will pick up in the second quarter of the year.

The NBS also announced that the year-on-year growth of the consumer price index, a main gauge of inflation, dropped to 3.2 percent in February, the lowest pace since June of 2010.

"If TPTB wanted to rig the bio-human-sphere for a 'controlled demolition' of the 7 billion plus "useless eaters'...they would turn to the Ag-Industrial Complex [Monsato-stein] for final solutions."

Okay, yet another movie analogy. You've more or less described Blofeld's plot to blackmail the world in the Bond flick "On Her Majesty's Secret Service". Using his bevy of brain-washed beauties to distribute his sterility virus around the world, Blofeld believes nations will give in to his every demand. And of course, being a Bond villain, he lays out the whole plot to 007 rather than just killing him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KjcL0R9css

Monsanto CEO Hugh Grant even looks like the infamous SPECTRE chief, just needs a white persian cat in his lap.
http://www.monsanto.com/whoweare/Pages/hugh-grant-bio.aspx

Klein 4:34

"More colloquially, they want to change things without really changing things. Too bad that defies logic. That's why they invoke "Deus ex machina" AKA technology. For something to work that defies logic, you need a miracle. No problem. Technology will provide that. This from supposedly mature adults. God help us."

Also, hoping for "miracles", they use other abstract terms, imaginary concepts, words and ideas that are impossible to pinpoint down, to define, to understand concretely what the hell they are all talking about, etc.: like INNOVATION, TRAINING, EDUCATION, COMPETITION, GROWTH (in all of its very vague and foggy permutations, such as "Economic Growth", "Sustainable Growth", "Development"), GREEN TECHNOLOGY and so on and so forth, with vague, foggy, undefined (because you can always switch what you really mean at the last second and keep on confusing everyone with such deep and scientific concepts all the economists and politicians and sociologist always talk about and especially you can always connect any cause and effect by defining and using abstract words and concepts like "Less Taxes Creates More Jobs" (and very generalized and global concepts, so global that they are essentially undefined, like "Taxes" (which and for who ?) and "Jobs" (which jobs ? in what sectors ? etc.) and such) and intractable concepts and goals).

The bottom line is that they all create abstract words that don't really mean anything, to then define an imaginary "cause and effect" that is really hiding a subtle agenda a given part of society wants to pass: case in point, all the talk about "cutting welfare" in the EU so that the Southern European countries can "Grow", changing their "Labor Laws" so that they can hire and fire easily and so forth and so on without ever telling what the true reason for the EU crisis really is and namely:

SPAIN HAD A HUGE HOUSING BUBBLE, THEY HIKED UP THE PRICES OF THEIR HOMES AND BUILT LIKE CRAZY AND EVERYONE BOUGHT THESE HOMES BY MAKING HUGE DEBTS ALL THINKING THAT THEY HAD BECOME RICH, THAT OWNING HOMES WAS THE PATH TO NEVER ENDING WEALTH FOR ALL. NOW IT IS PAYBACK TIME, AN ECONOMY BUILT ON HIGH HOME PRICES CAN ONLY GO SO FAR, NOW THEY HAVE HIGH HOME PRICES, MILLIONS OF EMPTY HOMES AND NO JOBS. WHAT C*CKS, AND NOW SPAIN WANTS MONEY FROM OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO HIDE THE FACT THAT SPONGING OFF HOME PRICES AND VALUES WASN'T WRONG AFTER ALL (in other words, they don't want to admit that they hiked their property prices way higher than what their economy could afford). THIS SAME MECHANISM OCCURRED IN THE GOOD OLD USA, HIKE HOME PRICES, SELL THEM TO ALL THROUGH DEBTS (SUBPRIME LOANS) AND CRASH THE ECONOMY, ETC. THIS SAME MECHANISM CRASHED THE JAPANESE ECONOMY IN THE 90S AND THEY ARE STILL PAYING FOR IT. THIS SAME MECHANISM IS STILL OPERATING IN MOST OF THE WORLD, IRELAND, LONDON, MOSCOW, SAO PAOLO, ETC. THIS IS CALLED "INFLATION", HUGE "INFLATION" BUT NO ONE NOTICES IT, BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY ARE GETTING RICH BY HAVING HIGH HOME VALUES (and in fact the origin of this mechanism is the 1970s inflation, inflating home prices, but never making the prices go back down again, especially outside of the USA where there is still some feedback mechanism to calm home prices).

WHEN ON EARTH WILL PEOPLE LET THE HOME PRICES CRASH, BABY CRASH, KILL HOME PRICES AND RENTS ? THE REAL ORIGIN OF ALL OF THE ECONOMIC TURMOIL OF THE LAST YEARS IS HUGE HOME PRICES, INFLATED HOME PRICES AND RENTS AND BANKS LENDING TO CLOWNS WHO THOUGHT THAT HOME PRICES BEING HIGH MADE THEM RICH. NOW, ITALY HAS THE WORST HOME PRICES BUBBLE OF ALL, ONLY THEY STILL DIDN'T NOTICE IT, THEY STILL THINK THEY ARE ALL "RICH": ITALY IS THE NEXT HOUSING BUBBLE TO CRASH, BUT ITALY IS TOO BIG TO FAIL, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.


AMEN.

And notice:

The only Economy that is doing well, namely Germany, never had this kind of Housing Bubble, actually it should be called HOME PRICES BUBBLE, since more than anything else, it is the constant and continuous hiking up of Home Prices, everyone trying to get a home and buy one, so that they are also "Getting Theirs", their "Imaginary Wealth", like a panic, like an imaginary Resource Scarcity myth, homes are running out, you will be left in the streets and such. And notice that this Home Prices Bubble occurs in static economies that are insecure (Spain, Italy, Greece, etc.), where a majority of the population are home owners (freezing all of their wealth and savings in buildings fooling themselves that the buildings will always have a future wealth), Germany has only 50 % home owners and 50 % renters, and in fact the renting part is what makes an economy "flexible" and such, let's hope that Germany too doesn't decide to have their own Home Prices Bubble.

And China is now constructing entire cities on this mythology of High Home Prices meaning that they think they are All getting Rich, etc. They are building like crazy, hiking up prices, and have millions of empty homes. Good Luck With That, China Also Is TOO BIG TO FAIL...

The moral flaw is that Increasing Housing Prices is money being used as a weapon against the poorer segments of society: the richer (or those having more money) hike up home prices in cities and use money as a weapon to beat up the poor in this manner.

The logical flaw is that of not recognizing that the Economy is a Process, nothing can be fixed forever, everything can be defaulted upon, the value of anything can always change according to how the forces play out and such. By hiking up home prices, people think they can establish fixed wealth in the future, when this is not the case, the Economy is a constant Process, ever changing, home prices are not a given and such. You can't freeze wealth in homes and any other thing...

THE APE MAN, THE EIGHT MAN, THE APESTER...

dale, you may prefer the Buddhist teacher-student relationship to the Hindu guru-disciple model, but your attitude toward Osho reveals quite a lot of ignorance.

Or maybe Osho wearing Rolex watches and driving Rolls Royces does not meet with your preconceived notions of what a guru should be. Maybe you just don't get the joke on American materialism and don't realize he was completely unattached to those material possessions.

Maybe you just don't respect India, or don't realize that of all the teachers, saints, and gurus India has produced (Vivekananda, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Adi Shankara, etc.) only two Indian citizens have their complete works cataloged in the library of the National Parliament: Gandhi and Osho.

Perhaps you should read a brief biography of Osho before judging so harshly something you are obviously not familiar with.

As early as 1991, an influential Indian newspaper counted Osho, among figures such as Gautama Buddha and Mahatma Gandhi, among the ten people who had most changed India's destiny; in Osho's case, "by liberating the minds of future generations from the shackles of religiosity and conformism". ... Osho is one of only two authors whose entire works have been placed in the Library of India's National Parliament in New Delhi (the other is Mahatma Gandhi). ... Over 650 books are credited to Osho, expressing his views on all facets of human existence. (cf to Alan Wallace) ... Osho's books are available in 55 different languages and have entered best-seller lists in such varied countries as Italy and South Korea. ... The Osho International Meditation Resort in Pune, India, is visited by 200,000 visitors annually and is one of the largest resorts of its kind in the world today.

It's amazing the amount of uniformed and undocumented information on CFN that passes for fact ... until someone like Laura comes along and sets the record straight. Thank you, Laura.

I have not commented previously because the amount of anti-semitism on CFN, posted by ignorant and intolerant people, angers me to the point that I cannot even comment.

Jews have contributed so much to human civilization that we can never repay them. For Jews to be attacked by people who don't in any way measure up to Jewish intelligence, ethics, values, and humanity, just makes me irate.

Over 650 books are credited to Osho


highly doubtful anyone could write that many.

say you write for 40 years, that's 16 books per year or 1.3 books per month.

if each book is 200 pages that's 6.6 pages a day.

So this guy wrote about 7 pages a day for 40 years straight, not even counting time needed for editing/rewrite/rearrangement.

I can appreciate he probably had lots of help from his followers, plus of course unlimited financial resources.

Still, 650 books seems outlandish at the least. Perhaps possible though. Bach's output was calculated at 16 pages of music per day for every day he was alive, a truly phenomenal feat.

I could be wrong about Osho.

peace peaceniks

May all your White Rice be moving.
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Not bad, I sorta liked the cat vomit nectar thing better though.

Look at how they railroaded Edgar Steele into prison with false tapes.
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Of course, I don't know about, or have the slightest interest in Edgar Steele or his false tapes. But then, he certainly wouldn't be any exception to the rule of over prosecution we have in this country. All part of the fascist/corporate state.

Look at how they railroaded Edgar Steele into prison with false tapes.
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Of course, I don't know about, or have the slightest interest in Edgar Steele or his false tapes. But then, he certainly wouldn't be any exception to the rule of over prosecution we have in this country. All part of the fascist/corporate state.

Interesting. Of course they only go public once they are out of office. Obama's "leadership" is abysmal.

Isaac Asimov had over 500 books to his credit, at least, but then again, that's what he did for a living, and he was a writing machine.

dale, you may prefer the Buddhist teacher-student relationship to the Hindu guru-disciple model, but your attitude toward Osho reveals quite a lot of ignorance.
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No, I'm just thankful that the Buddha had wisdom enough to place curbs on Guru Yoga instead of letting it run wild as its too often done in Hinduism.

You're right, I don't know much about Osho, sorry if it offends you but what you posted sounded cliche to me, and if I judge him by his disciples in Oregon, then no one seemed to be getting too enlightened to me.

BTW -- my assumption about the watches and RR's were it was a way to show devotion, excessive but....whatever. If it was done to show the absurdity of westerner materialism, then its value would decline for me. Why not take the money and start handing it out to poor people....I mean if you are just looking to show the absurdity of materialism.

Whatever rows your boat, as long as it works for you I'm good with it, but the excesses shown by that group had the stench of false teachings all over them.

Yeah Asimov was amazing that way, some of it was even good.

BTW -- Yeah, I also kinda have a hard spot for any religion that endorses animal sacrifice.

Is Condi a lesbo? And if so, would this help garner the lesbo vote if she's the veep?
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I'm not sure if Condi could stomach the idea of getting her hair messed up to engage in sex of any kind.

From the pure genius of human imagination and raw creative power comes a concept so fresh, so new, so all around inspiring, it's hard to contain my admiration for this species on the very verge of a major extinction event:

Factory Prisons Will Allow Inmates to Support Families on the Outside

This restores my Faith in the innate ingenuity of the Naked Ape and ten thousand years of human 'progress'.

Awesome

Homo sapien sapien has got all the bases covered.

But in the coming Gulag Casino Economy, they wil put slot machines in the factory prisons to recoup the inmates 'wages".

hahahaha

NPR Reports 'Big New Casino in Maryland'
and this in the 'It Was Only a Matter of Time' file:
TEHRAN (FNA)- The Iranian, Russian, Chinese and Syrian armies are due to stage joint amphibious exercises along the Syrian costs in coming weeks, informed sources revealed on Monday.


According to informed sources, 90,000 forces from the four countries will take part in the land and sea wargames due to be held in Syria.

Ground, air and sea forces as well as air defense and missile units of the four countries will take part in the exercises.

Sources also said that Egypt has acceded to grant passage to 12 Chinese warships to sail through the Suez Canal, adding that the military convoy is due to dock at the Syrian harbors in the next two weeks.

Russian atomic submarines and warships, aircraft carriers and mine-clearing destroyers as well as Iranian battleships and submarines will also arrive in Syria at around the same date.

Syria plans to test its coast-to-sea and air defense missiles in the wargames
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Very interesting. Perhaps the Free Peoples of the Earth aren't going to wait for Mordor to strike in Iran? Perhaps Syria will be the flash point.

Perhaps the New York, London, Tel Aviv Axis of Evil should stand down.

Say it again Sam. The Goverment refused to allow sound experts to testify in court since the tapes were a crude forgery.

Most of them are just recordings of his talks. Asoka's credulity would be admirable in regards to his Guru if he was not like that all the time.

Hey AntiSoak, with a nod to your above post, don't forget that Secretary of Defense Panetta has declared July to be 'Gay Pride Month' in the US armed forces. So yea, Russia, Syria, Iran etc. are gathering their forces and conducting provocative war games, but we're not standing still; we're making our own moves.

Well, just picked up Jim's new book 'Too Much Magic', a hard cover copy. I can't wait to get into it!

--WSP7

Yes, Buddhists are supposed to be vegetarians.

Joe McCarthy and John Birth warned you but you destroyed the former and laughed the latter to scorn.

Anyone who joins the military now is fighting for Sodomites and Anti Christians.

Wrong about Buddhists being vegetarians. How do you suppose Buddhists in the high mountains of Asia manage to grow enough food? They are omnivores.

Most of them are just recordings of his talks.

Yeah I figured this was the case.

I remember Sri Chimnoy - he may have been a great athlete etc., I'm not certain - is said to have created 6 million folded paper swans or something to that effect.

Also, he played 59 instruments LOL apparently.

My brother-in-law went to see him perform on piano, and came back indignant, saying Chimnoy just banged on the keys with his fists for half an hour.

Too fanni.

peace peaceniks


And wouldn't it be cool if her and Romney were caught in flagrante delicto in the "oval" office?

Make that, if she and Romney were caught

As the poet said, you cannot trouble a butterfly without disturbing a star.

This is a version of "the butterfly effect" I hadn't seen before. It normally begins:
. if a butterfly flaps his wing in China...
or
. if a butterfly flaps his wing in Brazil...
and it results in causing a hurricane weeks later

But I have my own version which begins:

if a butterfly farts in Secaucus...

Sri Chimnoy - is said to have created 6 million folded paper swans

In round numbers that would be one folded paper swan every 7 mins of his life from birth to death with no timeouts for sleep or bowel movements.

Also, he played 59 instruments LOL apparently.

I know a guy who has 25-30 musical instruments in his apt, including a grand piano, and plays them all competently. He also composes. When I first met him he was a carpet installer. Now he is a truck driver.

I'd be interested in the list of instruments, seems very farfetched.


peace peaceniks

Vlad, early on here I was accused of being a John Bircher. I had only a faint idea of what a John Bircher was and had to look it up. As far as Joe McCarthy goes, he was proved right in almost everything as soon as the Soviet Union collapsed and the KGB opened up its files in Moscow in 1992. That's when all the CPUSA members still living ran for cover like roaches when a flashlight suddenly shines on them in a dark room.

--WSP7

Kyooshtik, when you knock on a door and someone inside says 'Who is it?' do you ever reply :

"It is I."

peace peaceniks

Check the whole enchilada..click at drudge..esp what THE X BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SAYS ABOUT THEIR COMRADE IN ARMS....

Do they know whats described here can kill an infant?
from the city with the 'live slave auctions':

San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin .................

Brinkin, 66, who worked for the San Francisco Human Rights Commission before his retirement in 2010, was taken into custody Friday night. He spent the night in jail before he was released on bail, according to a spokeswoman for the sheriff's department.

The district attorney's office will decide Tuesday whether to file charges. ...................................................

Police say that Brinkin had pornographic images, some that appear to show children as young as 1 and 2 or 3 years old being sodomized............................................................................................

Actually, having read the exposes....
they were money grubbing, saying he / they were broke..while he had [in 1985 $] a million dollar wristwatch. that he wore 1x, to impress immigration people.
The gal he appointed ruler was trying to kill people. etcetcetc.

Do report on how Jims new one is.
I bought his newer Novel, didnt read it.

Theres all kinds of news about the REAL Sri, check online.
Yes , he wanted to 'paint a million paintings' or something.
His biggest claim to fame is Santana [devadip]
and JMG [Mahavishu orchestra]...they both left.
Ole Sri sent Santanas wife off for an abortion.

All of this hidden behind a non profit status, of course.
And he taught meditation at the UN.

crappy person, crappy poet.

Lectures turned into books, presumably.
Another 'crappy person, crappy cult leader'.

WSP7, I wonder what you'll think of the book.

I'm through about ¾ of it, but it feels somewhat flat...

do you ever reply: "It is I."
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No, I always reply "It's Kyoo."

Not Tibetan. Ive heard Japanese Buddhists also are not vegetarian.

On a separate note...

A 9 year old Buddhist was beheaded in Thailand...
see 'bare naked islam' for the gruesome picture and info.

Soak,

What a horrible man! And to think he had a career in "Human Rights?" I just read some of the horrible comments he made about kids/victims.

Not Tibetan. Ive heard Japanese Buddhists also are not vegetarian.
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The specific prohibition is against "killing", some are veggies and others are not. Monastics aren't even suppose to cut vegetables, another reason I've always found monasticism questionable.

Widespread, have you met "new world", I believe you two could make beautiful music together, know what I mean?

I will bet you do.

peace peaceniks

I'm through about ¾ of it, but it feels somewhat flat...


Read something horribly exciting and engaging, and filled with wondrous language & images.


"Treasure Island"


peace peaceniks

Welcome Desperado, I have been enjoying your posts immensely!

If this report is true, there are lots of implications. Like, we're stronger than you now, and your time in the sun has passed. They're only doing to us what we do to them with our own "military exercises".

I will bet you do.
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Well, if truth be told, if the voice asking "who is it?" is female I will sometimes reply "George Clooney."

Jim, sounds like you made the trip to Oz but came back to ...Oz. Everything is fine as long as you avoid the Witch (doesn't matter which one) or stay on her "good side" (again it doesn't matter which one). And unfortunately she's the one who can save us. The man behind the curtain is too dependent on crack and doesn't know how to control the balloon anyways. We can make it back to"Kansas", but don't want to (it's too black and white and it'll always be in our past) So what have we got left?
A pair of Red-Ruby slippers (technology) Unfortunately its the only thing that will save us (short of divine intervention, and we've already been given that) So I guess we're going to die trying; whats the big deal?! We're all going to die anyway! Cheers CFers (and I don't mean Cystic Fibrosis) I'm off to fight the annual japanese beatle infestation with an ice-cream bucket!

Indeed, we have sold so many weapons, now whos hands are they in?
And we both know how good Chinese are at copying, yes?

I'd be interested in the list of instruments, seems very farfetched.
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I am so pissed! I had just neared the end of a long story about this dude David when my 'puter crapped out and poof...

I started by responding to your sentence above (re far fetched) by saying "Yeah, I could hardly believe it myself."

Well, I'm not going to reconstruct the whole tale where my wife and I wind up walking into this guy's apartment and seeing the whole place filled with instruments that ran the gamut: strings, brass, woodwinds, percussion.

We begged him to play and for awhile he played hard-to-get but then he picked up one of several different guitars and began to amaze us. And then he went to the baby grand, to various size recorders, a sax, a trombone, bongos, clarinet, flute. Some of what he played - and sang - were his own compositions.

The whole story about this guy is interesting... too bad the computer ate my homework.

To confirm some of the details, I asked my wife "how many instruments would you estimate David had in his apartment?" She said, "Oh, I don't know, a LOT, but you know David no longer lives there, he lost his truck driving job and moved to Florida and Susan (his sister) says he's still unemployed."

Beantown Bill, thanks for expressing so well what I tried to convey in my post yesterday about John Kerry's family being Jewish (before they converted to Catholicism a hundred years ago).

Like you said, so what? There's something else going on here when people insist on singling out Jewish people they way they do. It's about as relevant as what colour someone's eyes are. In our family they're all blue but we don't condemn the brown eyed ones just for being different.

Some people never grow up.

Ok I can believe that, appreciate the rundown.

I never believe people when they say they speak more than 3 languages fluently (4 at the very outside) though, because you simply are not fluent unless you have years of exposure, not only to the language, but to the culture.

Saw a guy on youtube who claims he speaks 16, and he says a phrase in each one. Had to laugh, if he were put in with speakers of any of 15 or so of them he'd be totally and utterly lost.

Reminds me of the tv episode about the guy who spoke 12 languages, of which 5 were dead, LOL.

peace peaceniks

Jimbo, that was an excellent roast or take down or whatever. It is a wonder they keep inviting you to these things when you're such a Debbie Downer. This is what the end of the Age of Exuberance looks like.

We need some kind of variation of Godwin's Law around here that applies to Commies instead of Nazis, in order to keep Vlad Krantz's incessant and irrelevant red baiting in check. Who is with me?

Commie blah blah Trotsky blah blah blah Jews blah blah blah blah White Nationalists blah blah white slavery blah blah blacks blah blah liberal blah blah blah YOU PEOPLE!

As they say Vladdie, you could use a new shtick.

Vlad is like a little old man with a beautiful library, he spends all day cataloging the books and essays, of which he has a lot, getting them in order so he can remember them. But every half-hour his mischievous little 9-year old grand daughter comes running through the library putting things in places where they don't make sense anymore.

Vlad wishes she wouldn't do it, but he loves his little granddaughter so much, he can't bear to get her under control. So the little nine year old runs his life.

As they say Vladdie, you could use a new shtick.

I sense that JHK could use a new shtick, I think he's hit the wall of tireability.


Guy's a con any way you slice him, flies around the planet to oh-so-trendy effete gatherings while decrying carbon emissions, says technology is a dead end while getting hip replacements, and appears to literally think people will revert to using mules to plow land on a widespread societal basis.

Plus he'd like to off the entire US south and anyone else that doesn't meet his Pol Potish ravings.


Junk.

Ole' trippticket was one of very few worthy posters out here, and he's skedaddled a long time now.

peace peaceniks

"This restores my Faith in the innate ingenuity of the Naked Ape"

Love the sarcasm. My faith in the innate kindness of TPTB lets me know that they will inevitably send all the nerve agents, toxic chemicals, and nuclear weapons to the MOON! On rockets built by child pornographers.

Although not growing up is a part of it, it's also about needing a scapegoat for one's own failures.

If the Bill's have their way, soon there wont be any people with Blue Eyes, Grouch Ass.

I said Buddhists were supposed to be vegetarians not that they were. But they fell away. Roship Phillip Kapleau wrote a nice book about this.

When you eat meat, you are sacraficing a living being to your digestive fire. So they came up with all kind of rationalizations like a monk has to take whatever is offered to him or buying it is alright as long as you don't kill it yourself, etc.

What does this have to do with the Jewish role in slavery?

Jews were also active as slavers for the Muslims. And in Roman Times as well.

And then you think you're superior to us? Dream on.

I went to one such concert - nice sounds but no notes or chords.

Also saw him lift someone up with one hand. It looked real but it was on a contrivance so it could have been a lever effect of some kind.

Why would I want no more blue-eyed people? I have blue eyes and kind of like them. And why are you in such a piss-poor mood with regards to me? I've posted much more inflammatory (by your criteria) things before with no response from you.

I've said that racial differences will disappear with the now inevitable interbreeding. I said we'll all be golden people. That's just my logical thinking - that mixing in all the physical racial characteristics will average people out to nice golden color. But in reality, who can know the result?

One difference between you and I - and there's a boatload worth - is that I really don't care what color we end up, because color is literally skin deep. It's what's inside that truly counts. Many whites have the same character as Blacks or Asians, which is why I have to laugh at the whole concept that race is important.

Define superior.

Dale doesn't like the way that Brown skinned rag head exploited innocent young Whites.

bettah

Yes, you want all the races to blend except for the Jews. I'm not picking on you, I'm just stating facts about Jewish History. Why can't you talk about your people's atrocities without pretending that it's a personal attack? That's one difference between Jews and Whites - there are many. We can because we are special. Jews are just like Blacks, Chinese, Muslims etc - full of ethnic pride for their own race and only their own race.

I admit we have to become more like you and that our idealism is killing us because it's unbalanced and it opens us up to exploitation.

thnx for the inspiration: this is my second reading- trying to find my place from this am- and i recognize that today at work, which this time consisted of making a paintbrush float in either direction with either hand for about six hours...anyway, i noticed that all of the houses on the street had been cut in to the existing growth...and (this is why i said thnx) instead of having accomodated the space by weaving vinrs and branches together; otherwise training any landscaping, every one (house, that is) was in a perpetual cycle of "cut, cut, slash...cut, cut, cut, cut, slash..."

...ok, cycle perpetuated by said homeowner...Qyoo..

I think the fact that "they" are stronger than the USA is beyond dispute.

Military personnel (active and reserves)

4,585,000 ... China

2,230,000 ... Russian Federation

747,000 ... Syria

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7,562,000 ... China, Russia, and Syria

2,927,754 ... USA

You want to compare Nukes? USA still comes out behind.

SOURCE: Wikipedia, which Prog4Spam says is reliable and contains no errors he is aware of.


There was no exploitation. People were free to come and go. Donations were given freely out of love.

I was there. I refused to give. No consequences.

I dropped out. No consequences.

I rejoined and gifts were given to me beyond measure.

...hey jackass, may only SOME of your rice sqirm, and only then in your molars- where you ve no chance left to spit em out...heh heh heh



Joystiq interview: Nintendo spins 'core' gamer appeal, more










E3's oddly intoxicating cocktail of libation and lack of sleep can often give those in attendance a unique perspective on the industry. However, as we wandered into Nintendo's coolly lit corner of the LA convention center, we were quickly reminded that this is an outfit with a perspective all of its own.

If the company's ambivalence during its own pre-E3 presser wasn't enough to convince us of Nintendo's indifference toward core gamers, our sit down during the show with Nintendo spokesman Charlie Scibetta proved that while the organization may preach that "hardcore" gamers play a critical role in Nintendo's strategy, its actions paint a different picture altogether.

Nintendo's press conference was interesting for several reasons, but one of these was that a number of titles, like Wario Land and Kirby Super Star Ultra, were not even mentioned. Was there any reason why these were left out?

We're showing them here on the show floor. We're pushing those games hard. The short answer to your question as to why they weren't in the press conference is that you only have so much time. If we included every single title and did demos of every single the reaction from the people at the press conference would be 'you went a little long.' We have to pick which games we want to push to the forefront and feature in the press conference, and the rest of them we feature on the show floor. "We have to pick which games we want to push to the forefront and feature in the press conference, and the rest of them we feature on the show floor."

One of Nintendo's key announcements that was made was the Wii MotionPlus. But what kind of device is it, exactly?

There's the accelerometer and sensor bar that are still there. There's something called the Rate Gyroscope that's put in with the Wii MotionPlus, and what that does is it can recreate every flip of the wrist, every movement for a one-to-one experience. It's one of these things that you hear about, and wonder 'how does that work?,' and then you pick up the controller and play it and get it right away.

It tracks movement, position and speed. So when you're throwing a disc it's actually going to be able to take into consideration how you're turning your wrist to get a different angle and trajectory, and how hard you move it too will be how far it goes. It's very realistic.

The Wii's lack of sizable internal storage has been a controversial topic since the console's debut, and is likely to continue to be so given companies like Sega attempting to bring downloadable content to the Wii in the near future. What's Nintendo's strategy to help deal with this?

We hear gamers loud and clear on that. What's great about the songs and the games that you can download is that the system remembers that you did that. So if you need to clear off space off your SD card, you can. It's not like once you delete them you've lost them forever and you have to pay for them again. It's just a matter of managing the space you do have and keeping the stuff on there that you play the most while clearing up when you want to bring new stuff on.

But does Nintendo have any specific plans to address the need for extra storage on the Wii?

We don't have anything to announce now on that, no.

We hear Nintendo talking about the importance of core gamers in the company's strategy, but to be fair we're not seeing much announced that reflects that stance. What's Nintendo doing to appeal to the core gamer market?

The core, when they first heard about the motion sensing capabilities of the Wii remote and Wii Sports, were skeptical. But when they tried it, they liked it. Like most people do. Whether you consider yourself in the core or expanded audience, it's just universal that people like great games. There are games here, like Wario Land Shake It! and Mario Super Sluggers that some people consider to be core games, but if the game's good it doesn't matter. If you're new to gaming or a veteran gamer, it's something you're going to like.

What's interesting about a game like Animal Crossing, which is something that I consider to be a core game, is that it has the Wii Speak microphone attached to it. It works with it, rather. It's actually sold separately. But when you think about the capabilities that kind of voice chat and communication is going to do for that game and for other games, that's exciting. It's exciting for the core to see too to see what developers will do with that peripheral.

"It's just a matter of managing the space you do have and keeping the stuff on there that you play the most while clearing up when you want to bring new stuff on." A lot of core gamers last year weren't fired up about WiiFit, and now they have either come to like it or they don't. But almost everyone like Shaun White Snowboarding. Developers have taken the Balance Board that originally came out with WiiFit, and now have gotten their hands around it and spent some time with it, and are realizing their creative vision by using that peripheral. These accessories we're taking about being associated with the games A number of events took place in Hanoi to celebrat, Wii Speak and Wii MotionPlus, the game's we're showing aren't the only games that are going to use them.

As developers and publishers learn about that technology and begin to incorporate it into their own development, we're going to see a whole lot of great third-party ideas come out of that that'll appeal to both expanded and core audiences.

Speaking of games for the core audience, do you have any update on either Project H.A.M.M.E.R. or Disaster: Day of Crisis?

I don't have any status update, no.

And you mentioned the Balance Board and WiiFit. Given their scarcity, to say nothing of the console itself, does Nintendo have any strategy for getting more of these on store shelves?

(chuckles) We're making them as fast as we can. The response to them has been really outstanding. I can't tell you how many barbecues I've thrown this summer where we bust out WiiFit and soon the party has shifted from the backyard to the living room. The response has been great, and now we're just trying to get as many out there as quick as we can.

So then what's Nintendo's strategy as it pertains to the Wii's longevity?

As long as publishers and our own first-party teams are able to get good use out of the technology that's there to make gameplay experiences people will like, it's going to be a legitimate console. Technology evolves, and when we get to the point when we think it's time to do a new edition, then we'll make an announcement about that. But for right now, with the number of games that are coming out and the kind of creativity that we are seeing on the platform, that shows us that the well is nowhere near dry in terms of what this console can do.

How about the DS? Are we close to the next generation of that handheld?

The DS is also very successful, and in the June NPD data we think that the DS might overtake the Wii as the number one console for the month. It's selling great; we've sold 70 million units of that worldwide. As Reggie said in the press conference, we'll be close to 100 million by the end of the year. You're seeing the creative opportunity for developers. You see Spore, Guitar Hero, and now Grand Theft Auto was just announced for the DS. You see a lot of publishers excited about developing for that platform. And so, to think about cutting that short and moving onto the next console right away, we just don't see a lot of logic in doing that.



Looking to the digital space, what's Nintendo's strategy concerning WiiWare? Why would a third-party developer choose to release their title over WiiWare versus alternative channels such as XBLA or PSN?

WiiWare is a great opportunity for any size developer, large or small, to get their product out in a way that has been difficult in the past because of the cost of production and trying to get retail space. It's a real opportunity for any size developer to realize their creative vision. As more and more publishers understand what it can do for them, we're gong to see more great titles.

But without any sort of promotion by Nintendo for these games, what incentive do third-parties have to put their games on your service?

There's lots of ways to get the word out if you've got a great game. Even in talking to people like yourself. Joystiq is a good place for WiiWare developers to talk about their game and let the public know about it in advance. "I think with Virtual Console and WiiWare, they'll find their rhythm in terms of when the right space is to release titles, and the public will help shape that."

It just doesn't seem that Nintendo gives any advance notice of these titles, and it isn't until Monday morning that anyone knows what's available. Is that your strategy?

We kind of have to pick our battles in terms of where we're going to load up on marketing and publicity efforts, so we get behind certain games that we think have huge sales potential and the retailer will push that. If we have a game on the WiiWare system that we think is equal to that kind of effort and worthy of it, then we would do it.

Finally, we want to talk a bit about Virtual Console. Specifically, the release frequency for these titles seems to have begun to dry up a bit. Any reason for this?

There's ebbs and flows in anything; that's just the model of the whole video game industry. Sometimes you see a lot of spiking around Christmas, and I think that now what you're starting to see is more consistent spacing of titles because you can sell a title now whereas before it was difficult to see a blockbuster anywhere but Christmas. Now you can see it spaced all the way through the year. I think with Virtual Console and WiiWare, they'll find their rhythm in terms of when the right space is to release titles, and the public will help shape that.

And is Nintendo courting any other older console libraries for the service?

The skies' the limit, that's what is great about Virtual Console. We don't have anything new to announce, but you're seeing a lot of new content put on that from old libraries. And it doesn't just have to be classic arcade titles, it can be new experiences released there as well.

Who decides when a virtual console title is released From March 20 -24, is it Nintendo or is it the original publisher?

The publisher decides, but it's in conjunction [with Nintendo]. WiiWare is a little bit more loose in terms of having very little input from Nintendo at all. Developers really have the final say...as long as it passes the ESRB rating. It can't be rated too high, and it also has to work.



...if you ve ever see the principal in the movie "wildcats" say 'riiiiiiiiii-i-i-i-ght...'

Being There, if we leave this election up to the two major party candidates, President Obama will defend his troop surges, his excessive Pentagon budgets, his preparations for war with Iran, his escalation of the drone wars, his crackdowns on whistleblowers, his indefinite detention policy, and his new role as manager of the White House assassination list.

If we leave this election up to the two major party candidates, Mitt Romney will not question these policies, but will promise to pursue them with even more enthusiasm. In debates and interviews, the American people will have the Big Lie drilled into their consciousness: that our nation must accept escalating military engagement and must visit worldwide violence against all who defy the U.S. government.

Jill Stein stands ready to challenge the Big Lie. Jill Stein, a physician from Massachusetts, who has been a national board member of Physicians for Social Responsibility, has just won 29 state primaries to secure the presidential nomination of the Green Party. She is putting some badly needed fundamentals for peace on the table:

** Cut the Pentagon budget by 50%.

** Halt the drone wars.

** Pardon the whistleblowers.

** Restore our civil liberties.

** Make the Middle East a nuclear-free zone.

She is driving home the point that the Obama/Romney fascination with war and violence is dangerous for our nation and the world. We need to make sure she is heard.

Seven of the most prominent leaders of the American peace community today released a letter urging financial and other support for Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein. The letters writers were David Swanson, Medea Benjamin, Leah Bolger, Bruce Gagnon, Chris Hedges, George Martin, and Kevin Zeese.

After noting a series of failures of President Barack Obama to curtail military spending and reduce military violence worldwide, their letter states that only Dr. Stein will have the ability to stimulate a serious debate on the nation's approach to foreign policy.

http://www.jillstein.org/peace_leaders

I really hate low grade sarcasm.

Nothing like a typical American attitude when it comes to simple, common sense respect for the environment.

The letters writers were...
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The letters writers' were...

Correction:

The letters' writers were...

Um, are these 'gurus' a lot like the Indian who inspired the name(song?)Sexy Sadie?

John Lennon was very disenchanted by him. I think it was Lennon...

Nice try, Q., and nice second try, too.

But you are wrong on both of your corrections.

It should be "the letter's writers"

There is only one letter, so the apostrophe goes before the final s. If there were two or more letters, then the apostrophe would go at the end.

I waited to see if you would correct your first two errors. As no further correction was forthcoming, I decided to correct it for you. I know you care, even though you continue to make multiple errors in English usage in your posts. English must be a second language for you. It's OK.

REPUBLICAN WAR ON WOMEN CONTINUES

Seems like Republicans in Congress can't make it a week without trying to take away women's rights. But holding up flood insurance [with an amendment on when life begins] at the start of hurricane season, with at least two major American cities already suffering, is a brand-new low.

-- EMILY's List President Stephanie Schriock

Joint military exercises by Russia, China, Iran, and Syria. I wonder if it's true that Syria is one of 3 countries that does not have a Rothschild bank pulling its strings. Syria is not known for having vast oil reserves, so why are americans, who are broke and on the brink of collapse, so eager to meddle in the internal affairs of yet another country?

You go, girl!! Good on ya!

Iona


I know this may cause fainting among CFN members but I agree with Asoka that the Green Party's fundamental platform planks are indisputably in the interests of the United States and its citizens.

As a former employee of SRI, I can attest to the incredible pork in the DoD budget. They could cut that sucker by 50% easily and not affect the military readiness of this country one iota.


E.

Thank you, E.

A vote for the Green Party is not a wasted vote, it is a vote of conscience.

A vote for Obama or Romney will guarantee more of the same. Romney has Bush neo-cons hired onto his campaign and Bush neo-cons would likely be Romney's advisors, the same neo-cons who got us into Iraq by telling us it would be a cakewalk that would last weeks or months, and would pay for itself, instead of costing trillions of dollars over many years of fighting.


I can't see wasting my vote for either of the main party clowns. I know I may be spitting into a hurricane by voting for Jill Stein but I cannot stand any more of these "purchased" elections where the voters are constantly asked to pick at miniscule differences between the two main clowns.

How can Obama supporters claim that Bush handed them a horrible economy and then Obama turns around and re-nominates one of the clowns at the helm of Bush's horrible economy ... the execrable Republican, Mr. Bernanke? Obama also kept Bush's Secretary of Defense, Gates.

If Obama is a joke of a Democrat, Romney represents all of the horrid Straussian Neo-Cons that have tried to pass for Constitutionalists since Reagan.

The Green Party platform shows a becoming modesty about the role that the USA should assume in world politics and a sagacious recognition of the National Security State we live under where various items in the Bill of Rights, especially #1 and #4, are rapidly being Gitmo'ed away.


E.

NEWS FOR BUCK STUD

Swing-state numbers trend up for Obama.

April 2012
Obama 47 ... Romney 45

May 2012
Obama 48 ... Romney 42

June 2012
Obama 50 ... Romney 42


SOURCE: NBC/Wall Street Journal polls of voters in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin.

Sad world, where you cannot even escape to the mountains. Ah, for Aspen in the 1970s!

Oh, forgot to add the irony of Verizon ads on this site. Well, take their money while the money is still there. Like magic!

AntoSoak, I notice that character Birkin was a member of the SF Human Rights Commission. Believe it or not, we have a 'Human Rights Commission' in our little town here (pop.25,000). It is made up of various do gooders, race hustlers and college professors. When the English first arrived here in 1639 about 500 Algonquin Indians lived along the river. They're gone, but we have a new kind of Indian now. They have dots on their foreheads and live packed 20-30 to a house. The medical center, built in 1970, brings them in.

This is still a 90% white town and many families have been here for 8-10 generations. A few years ago the 'Human Rights Commission' came up with the bright idea to build a massive billboard next to town hall featuring a bar graph showing the decline of the white population and the rise of the Asian/black/Hispanic population in town. It sounds pretty unbelievable but it is true. The theme was 'celebrate diversity'. People complained about it and it was finally removed. After that this 'Human Rights Commission' concerned itself mostly with events in Darfur and slandering President Bush. That's about it.

--WSP7

E.
My sister and I have decided to look into Jill Stein, the only candidate in this country that has it right.
Nobody has heard anything about her. The corporate media refuses to let anyone know of her existence---that, my friends is the best sign that she's any good.

Yep, Obama did a bait and switch on us all. He got rid of his economic team and hired the Clintonistas, you know the folks that got Clinton to smash Glass-Steagall. The guys who "restructured" govt. with the idea that the banks were the government's client.

Obama also continued the Republicans like Geithner and Bernanke---hey that was some hopey changey thang and what did they do?

They printed up $30Trillion to the banks. Obama also has given us trade deals that are not going to create jobs here, but never mind that
---Romney (Mr. Bain of our existence) is a nightmare for this country!!A real live robot, I refer to as "Making Mr. Right". We will be very sorry if that one gets in.

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Asoka,

Sorry I missed your message addressing me, so I include you in my response to E.

"Ole' trippticket was one of very few worthy posters out here, and he's skedaddled a long time now."

Just to keep you apprised, you'd find that Tripp agrees with most of JHK's viewpoints and energy predictions. It's DUE to his powering-down and constant work that he hardly posts here. (Thought you'd appreciate me clearing that up for ya.)
Communique finis.

"It" got a response out of you. That would be the entire point. Persuasion is not relevant.
(I do applaud your contesting this devout crankery, but it's only designed to pull you off-topic and into an intellectual mosh-pit. ...And I do understand that sometimes a "single response post" don't git 'er done, but you see where it leads.)

MN,
This may help:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31703.htm

Divide et impera.
Just another move on The Biggest Assholes', "Grand Chessboard".
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(Just a little space, so it don't git losted.)

E.,
I've consistently voted for "losers" (those who were defeated in the election), and I've never been disappointed in my choice. ;o)
Of course, they've never had a chance to try and implement their vision! lol

But at least my conscience is clear (so far).
Can't bring myself to vote for venal toadies out of some manufactured "fear".

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Speaking of the Grand Chessboard
I am listening to t he best interview I've ever heard from Paul Craig Roberts who explains it all to you!!!

You can't imagine how huge this is. Although I disagree with supply-side economics and Roberts was one of the founders of that economic theory, the rest of what he says is so very important, it's about the most realistic image of what is running this disaster on all levels. He doesn't actually say we did 9/11, but what he does say is that we had to drum up a new enemy for the Military Security complex:

He discusses how we're trading places with the third world and that you can't take the country back by voting: Voting machine has software devised by Repulbicans with no paper trail and the Dems go along with nary a peep.

He's a slow talker, but this is an absolute must hear!!!

http://reasonradionetwork.com/20120525/the-stark-truth-interview-with-paul-craig-roberts


"Don't tase me, Bro!"

Did Eleuthro participate in the San Francisco Gay Rights parade last weekend?


Homosexual Activist and Former Member of SF Human Rights Commission Arrested for Child Porn


By Amanda Swysgood

June 26, 2012

(CNSNews.com) -- Police arrested homosexual activist Larry Brinkin -- a long-time human rights activist -- on Friday in San Francisco for alleged possession of child pornography. Brinkin, 66, retired in 2010 after serving 22 years on the San Francisco Human Rights Commission.

Are you having trouble with pesky local by-laws and unions that are making the accommodations for your commode a frustrating experience?

Design up a currency that will crush them all!

http://www.gregpalast.com/the-euro-is-a-big-success-no-kidding/#more-6297

There's some fine plannin', and a conspiracy to drool over!
The Chicago School strikes again. (Sorry, no well-deserved lynchings will be forthcoming, because no one ever hears these names, now do they? Why would that be, Poppets?)

.....Meanwhilst, Colorado goes up in a gigantic could of smoke, and not a mountain snow-pack left in sight...

CLOUD (Doh!)

Thanks for the link.
I shall mark it and attend later-ish.
Sounds "interesting"!

Plus he'd like to off the entire US south and anyone else that doesn't meet his Pol Potish ravings.
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Nicely said

Ibendet, don't you or your sister get caught drinking one of those contraband, BIG GULP soft drinks on the streets of Manhattan, specially if it exceeds 16 oz. I was wondering, are there police in NYC enforcing that law, like the Islamic police in Saudi Arabia walking around carrying whips, enforcing Moslem strictures on citizens and non citizens like, administering street justice, if you will?

-Marlin

Never drank soda I hurt my throat!

Correction: It hurt my throat. I never actually finished a small bottle of Coca Cola when I was a kid, so as an adult I have no interest in starting a bad-overly sweet habit.

Marlin,

in lieu of your police comments I will repost what Ozone or P2C posted for me back in April:

A gift from a flower to the garden of Finzi-Continis

Today on a most glorious spring day, I was running my daily laps around Washington Square Park, where I suddenly noticed big crowds of people and cops of every stripe.

There was a group of 6 cops on motorcycles on the north side of this little park.

I thought this must be an OWSers special, but alas I was wrong…It was a giant pillow fight to take place and the Cops and EMS were all about.

I finally had to ask someone what was going on and chose a NY State cop standing with an EMS cop and he went on to say that since 9/11 everything is on high alert. Whenever there's a crowd this is the kind of coverage that is warranted and there are even plain clothes cops amongst the pillow fighters.

He went on to say this is becoming a police state and this is just the beginning….(whoa)

He also said that if you speak your mind in the future they'll institutionalize you. I said it sounded like we were becoming the former Soviet Union. Remember "The First Circle"--Solzhenitsyn?

I asked him whether he thought the SCOTUS meets Abu Garib decision to strip search people for small infractions if arrested would lead to, ah…Abu Garib. I mentioned privatization of police and their pensions and he agreed that there's going to be a lot of misplaced anger. ---oh boy.

He also said its all about greed and look who's running for Pres.

He said Obama had to win last time around because the world was furious at W. and Cheney. He said O did nothing for us and can't do anything because he is told not to.

--Out of the mouth of cops…(hey all I was doing was asking why so many police!)

I posted the 'grimm fairy tale' y'day.

What about getting on the Board of yr Anti White 'human rites' committee???
Or starting a blog about it?
Does it have a webpage?

Far as 'indians with a dot', there are so many in LA. way up from 10 years ago. Countless doctors are flown over, according to someone who worked for a
'imported doctors' testing service, [her term]
'plane loads of smelly indians'.

I finally had to ask someone what was going on and chose a NY State cop.
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Yeah.....beat cops always know what's going on in the highest circles.

'plane loads of smelly indians'.
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I would agree we've overdone it with immigration. That being said, I'd turn my back on these "smelly indians", before most of our natives.

Diversity = AntiWhite and yr towns race hustlers
with their 'Human Rights Commission' didnt fool you.
Yet fools here [Turkle,'stud'] celebrate this
creature 'diversity' [no capitalization needed].

M,
Ha! Like the cops need MORE shit to carry on their belts.
However, replacing the truncheon with a cat o' nine tails might have a decent "deterrent" factor. Cruel and unusual? Not relevant since 9/11. SCOTUS say so.

Whip it; whip it good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbt30UnzRWw

Give the past a slip...

He wasn't a beat cop. He was State Police, number one, number two a New York Magazine article came out the very next day on how demoralized the cops are in New York. Try to find the issue online.

I've had other discussions with police in the last few years which I will not repeat (worse).

Maybe you should dismiss what I'm saying so fast.

Here we go. I hear that the Russkis want Assad the Chinless in power because they want him to pay for the Russian arms he's buying. No Assad means no money from Syria. I hear that the Iranians want the Alawites in power for their own purposes ie so Syria can continue to be a useful corridor to the fine folks in Hezbollah in Lebanon that the beards in Iran like so much. Don't know why China wants to get involved in that hornet's nest. Maybe they too have arms deals and want to get paid.

I've also heard that the Russkis and the Chinese are peeved that Muammar is dead and gone and only because NATO intervened. And they don't want NATO sticking its muzzles into Syria like they did with Libya. So this is a show of deterent force.

"Don't know why China wants to get involved in that hornet's nest." -R.

Mmmmm, I think it's a bit deeper and more long-range than gettin' paid for some hardware.
Look at the energy sitch and a larger picture begins to emerge. (It's like a JHK scenario writ in the real world! How could that be?)

O, that's amusing..


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Apologies for typos today:
Maybe you shouldn't dismiss what I'm saying so fast.

I just saw a show on CNBC about multitasking and how people perceive things the wrong way--so what do I do?

Multitask, of course.
that's it for now.


You're right, LB ... the rehiring of the "Clintonistas" and all these Republicans just told us that Obama, rather than being some force for substantive change, was only going to TWEAK past failed policies of both Bush and Clinton. He veritably telegraphed it to us.

Romney is a Manchurian Candidate trying half-heartedly to pose as a person who gives a shit about the American people. He's just a dutiful Republican cyborg.

Stein is the only person who removes some shame from this upcoming Presidential election.

E.

Maybe you're right. But if I was the Chinese I'd keep it simple. Just make sure I send the Iranian beards in power boatloads of the finer things in life like the best liquor, the best and purest cocaine and heroin for their own use or for sale, the best looking silky skinned "escorts" etc just to make sure the flow of oil keeps going to China. Has to be an easier way than to send warships etc. Mind you maybe the Chinese are looking to keep their restless military occupied. It's a drag doing all that training and never putting it to use.

I also heard that the Saudis and other oil kingdoms are using Turkey as a staging point for funnelling arms and other aid to Syrian rebels. This may explain the shooting down of that Turkish jet ie the Syrians are getting mighty annoyed and what better way to show it than to shoot down a jet that will cost a hundred million bucks or so to replace.

Sounds like an Oath Keeper. They're one of the few bright spots in the present darkness.

I've heard the same: there is a division between the Elite - the CFR and Bilderbergers vs the Zionist Neo Cons. Brezinski has said that Israel has put World Goverment back 30 years. It's an awkward place for the Jews who are well represented in the World Goverment group.

I'm happy that you have fully confessed your sin. In honor of this, and in light of Romney and Ron Paul's betrayal, I'm going to cast a protest vote for "Jill" too. She's an abominable mutlicultist, but she's right about some things. But how much are the Greens being infiltrated by the Democrat Left? In any case, I'll vote for her this time.

How long are you going to deny the Conspiracy? Are you going to be the last to know? Remember, the Founding Fathers were conspirators and believed in conspiracies.

Yes Osho was a great Yogi before he fell. He could give shaktipat - so what? He was headed for a Fall even then. Energy transmission is no proof of morality but only yogic attainment. Read the Bhagavatam: many of the bad guys were great yogis.

Are you trying to say that Jews didn't control much of the American Slave Trade? Why do you hate the Truth so much?

You don't have to like the Messenger (me) but you are using your hatred for me to obfuscate the Truth I am telling. A reminder: ad hominem attacks are a logical fallacy - they do not disprove anything.

Remember David Brooks' piece in the NY Times about how he knew Obama would be a great president by the crease in his pants?

Maybe I could marry your sister and become your bother in law. Is she free? How attractive on a scale of 1 to 10?

Read the expose books, he was a druggie, one quotes him as saying 'its great to use laughing gas with my
inner circle, hang loose and not pretend to be enlightened' !!!!!
He of the million dollar wrist watch.

Remember what Jim said almost 10 years ago 'the remaining oil will be contested by every nation'

Or more correctly by the more powerful military states. Odd that JHK did not mention China at all
in his TLE.

You are a closet racist - as are the vast majority of liberals. Come out and let your hair down girl.

Read that one by his bodyguard. He fell to the very bottom but remember - the same guy talked of the bliss and energy he could give or could at one point at least.

It was a Cult but of how class people: engineers, scientists, hippy hedonists, etc. The kind that didn't fit the ordinary Cultist profile. They wouldn't have joined if he didn't have something real to give....

He did have a very fine mind but it was more than just verbal bullshit. Same with Da - a great yogi who came out to teach before he had finished purifying himself.

That should be "high class people" not how class.

Just to keep you apprised, you'd find that Tripp agrees with most of JHK's viewpoints and energy predictions. It's DUE to his powering-down and constant work that he hardly posts here.

With the difference that JHK regularly jets off to snob-laden 'techno-narcissistic' gatherings he allegedly despises, while....decrying a carbon-heavy lifestyle and 'happy motoring', which he only sees his 'inferiors' (mostly southern whites) as committing.

JHK's a tissue-thin wannabe effete, that's why he hangs around the buffet tables at Aspen with the billionaire technocrati he allegedly despises.

JHK only has viewpoints, unlike Trippticket his 'activism' stops short of picking up anything heavier than a latte.

i give him a few kudos for planting a small number of fruit trees.

peace peaceniks

"The villas of the Wall Street and Hollywood kingpins that decorate the ridge lines above town give off a desolate vibe of futility..."

At first I read "fatuity" but your word works, too.

Her term not mine....She 'played patient' at ECFMG in ElSegundo...that employs 200 people to get Indian MDs thru the licensing here.
It has several locations...200 employees at 1 location!

Glad you finally admit that America's first Black President has been a disaster. Perhaps even a war criminal as Jimma Carter insinuates.

Ah, looks like the same-ol-same-ol. Vlad yapping like the neighbors chihuahua. Oh well...

Here is something interesting for you-

"If you were Planning to Conquer the World"... The Dogs of War are Barking behind Closed Doors

by Robert Bridge
If you were planning to conquer the world, or at least a broad swath of it, the war would necessarily start at home. After all, no general worth his salt would rush into battle with his rear exposed. You’d have to muzzle the media, severely curtail political choice and dissent, while preaching to the world about democracy and human rights to cover your tracks. You’d have to construct the mother of all propaganda machines, which proclaims over every available wavelength that it’s the best darn civilization since Atlantis sunk to its watery grave thousands of years ago.

What we are left with after the smoke has cleared bears no resemblance to a classic, text-book democracy. What we are left with is an obese, drug-addled Burlesque Empire, bursting at the seams with electronic circuses, cocaine and corn puffs, physically and mentally incapable of finding the remote control when the scenes of war become too unappetizing.

Global Research (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31547)

Later dudes & dudettes

Dee

Yes Osho was a great Yogi before he fell. He could give shaktipat - so what?

Osho was just an ordinary human being. He never claimed to be anything but an ordinary human being. The ego is impressed by the "extraordinary," things like walking on water, shaktipat, doing miracles, and all kinds of ridiculous religious hocus pocus.

I'm just a friend. And anybody who wants to walk few steps with me on the path is welcome, and whenever he wants to depart he's absolutely free.

Glad you are going to make a protest vote for Jill Stein. I know that must be difficult for you being that she is multiculti, a woman, a leftist and a Jew. Thank you for your vote. Together we can register a sizable protest against Tweedledum and Tweedledee.

Yes, reminds me of the time Osho was asked by the press about caring for the poor. He replied that the Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. were all very concerned with the poor, so he intended to be a guru to the rich. Osho had simple tastes. He simply liked the best of everything.

CORRECTION

I'm just a friend. And anybody who wants to walk a few steps with me on the path is welcome, and whenever he wants to depart he's absolutely free. -- Osho

And after getting their shaktipat kicks, and leave, they are free to write "exposes" with all kinds of imaginary dialog for the gullible to believe.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Well, tomorrow is supposed to be the day SCOTUS rules on health care. In all the sound and fury over the Supreme Court's health care ruling, the simple truth is being lost:

We know how to provide affordable health care for every American. There is a proven solution -- improved "Medicare for All" (or single-payer health insurance). It's working in nation after nation around the world. It is the only fiscally responsible way out of the health care mess. And it's not unconstitutional.

When President Obama slammed the door in the face of single-payer health care advocates, and abandoned the "public option", it seemed that we were doomed to debating slight variations on the failing status quo.

But in the wake of the Obamacare/Romneycare crackup, we have an incredible opportunity to reframe the health care debate by injecting a long-time advocate for Medicare-for-All (single-payer) into the presidential dialogue.

Jill Stein, a physician from Massachusetts and Green Party candidate for President, is a powerful voice for universal, affordable health care, and we need to make sure she is heard.

Go into the voting booth on November 6 and vote for a change in direction instead of more of the same.

"exposes"


Correction: exposee'

Tark, my spelling was correct according to Wikipedia, which Prog4Spam says is reliable and does not contain any errors he is aware of.

Wikipedia exposé (plural exposés)

Although my spelling was correct, I did leave off the tilde. My apologies.

CORRECTION

Although my spelling was correct, I did leave off the accent mark. My apologies.

My Spanish is contaminating my English!

`~.__.~`

I have major doubts that a cop would even talk to you or me or anybodee at length, much less spill those kinds of opinions.

Most of them are as cold as ice, and may actually agree with the changes that have been made and will be made in this country. After all, it gives them a lot more control.

Indeed Asoka,

re: healthcare.
How ironic it is that the dems are fighting for a republican healthcare bill that they are rejected only because the dems crafted it.
Oh and because they're not interested in doing anything about healthcare anymore.
It's off the table believe me.

The Borghead says: No taxes for the rich, no regulations. You can buy healthcare from another state if you want.

Tark, the police are not monolithic. Some are hardline and, as you say, "cold as ice" ... but others realize they are part of the 99% and will not be obeying any illegal orders to act against the 99%. Combine those with the Oathkeepers and you have a sizable part of public security forces who do not just obey orders in a kneejerk fashion.

...Then again, it depends on what you look like. You're a woman, I think, so maybe he liked your bod-ay/boobs. You were jogging too so.....


This is America and as we all know, any problem can be fixed if we throw enough money at it. Helicopter Ben is leaving the pad as we speak: http://youtu.be/wZ7hvk7aCtg

You can buy healthcare from another state if you want.

The only state I know of which has actually taken advantage of the legal provision to reject Obamacare, if an adequate substitute is provided, is Vermont. I'm sure Vermont will have a great health insurance plan in place in 2014.

I have lived in Vermont and it is too cold in the winter. We should not have to move to Vermont to get decent quality medical care.

" This may explain the shooting down of that Turkish jet ie the Syrians are getting mighty annoyed and what better way to show it than to shoot down a jet that will cost a hundred million bucks or so to replace."

It was a '60s era F4.

;)

Sorry, but most people seem to be very much the same in the way they think, and the attitudes they believe are the 'proper' ones to have. The police think of themselves as a brotherhood-gang is more like it-so the police will be nearly one solid block most of the time.

They are their own little society.

The police think of themselves as a brotherhood-gang is more like it-so the police will be nearly one solid block most of the time. They are their own little society.

If that is true, then Romney's position makes more sense:

Obama says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It’s time for us to cut back on government and help the American people.

Romney promises to cut back on police and firefighters, eliminate police, eliminate firefighters, take them off the street, off their watch, take away their pensions, get them out of their unions ... to save taxpayers money.

Maybe you should dismiss what I'm saying so fast.
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Chill....I gave you an opportunity to clarify.

What we are left with is an obese, drug-addled Burlesque Empire, bursting at the seams with electronic circuses, cocaine and corn puffs, physically and mentally incapable of finding the remote control when the scenes of war become too unappetizing.
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That's the kinda hyperbole that makes Jimmy jealous. Was that your stuff or the Bridges guy? couldn't tell by how you posted.

Yes Osho was a great Yogi before he fell. He could give shaktipat - so what?
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I don't know Hindi but from the way the sentence reads I assume shaktipat means "a shit" right? in which case let me remind you for the hundredth time, the sentence should read "He couldn't give shaktipat."

Sorry to throw "chihuahua boy" the bone on ya. My only point was Osho's henchmen hurt and or intimidated a lot of people, gives one cause to to question his motives and his teachings.

Excuse me, I need to step away from my 'puter for a minute...I have to go take shaktipat.

Yes Osho was a great Yogi before he fell. He could give shaktipat - so what?
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I don't know Hindi but from the way the sentence reads I assume shaktipat means "a shit" right? in which case let me remind you for the hundredth time, the sentence should read "He couldn't give shaktipat.
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Either a great little joke, or Koo in his rush to correct everyone, doesn't have enough information to put his corrections in context, hilarious.

P.S. The google Hindi translator says shaktipat means #2.

Dale, it's Kyoo, not Koo.

任副总裁。李明远是百度贴吧的首任产品经理。2007年升任百度电子商务事业部总经理,开端负责百度电子商务C2C项目。今年4月,李明远离任百度。

  中心提醒:9月15日,据新闻人士表露,淘宝与UCweb深度合作的UC商城将于近期上线,该项目由前百度电子商务事业部总经理李明远负责。 优视科技CEO俞永福向搜狐IT显示,UCweb确实在与阿里巴巴进行深入合作,但发展方向并非“UC商城”。同时,他也强调,www.88zhi.com,UCweb是一个挪动互联网平台,会与其余有影响的利用协作。

  据悉,目前,UCweb已经植入了淘宝跟支付宝的多项功效,比方,UCweb“百事通”中就经由比价搜寻、“淘廉价”等多个项目推见淘宝。

  去年6月,优视科技颁布失掉阿里巴巴团体策略投资,当时有消息称阿里巴巴投资额度约为1200万美元。

  上述人士称,UC商城是优视科技取得阿里巴巴投资之后的深度配合名目,此前,UCweb也曾经预装在淘宝定制的手机中。

  李明远并未就上述消息作出回应。

  9月15日,据消息人士披露,淘宝与UCweb深度合作的UC商城将于近期上线,该项目由前百度电子商务事业部总经理李明远负责,淘宝商城

No problem, dale.

Do you use the same criteria to disqualify others? Some Buddhists mess up, so you disqualify Buddha? Some Christians mess up, so you disqualify Christ? A student of Alan Wallace does something questionable (or criminal), so you disqualify Wallace?

Makes no sense to me to downgrade the teacher/ guru/ etc. for the actions of some mentally deranged followers who perhaps let power go their heads or otherwise made bad choices.

I would rather go directly to the source, and evaluate the message given directly from the source, independently of how others have interpreted or misinterpreted said message.

Do you know what kind of car Einstein drove or what kind of watch he wore or whether his lab assistant had a criminal record? Does any of that make any difference to his theory of relativity? Do those kinds of personal choices or personal associations invalidate Einstein's contributions to humanity?

Actually, it's #3 ... as in third eye.

I love how you are enjoying playing with a new word, even though you have no full understanding of what the word means.

You are just innocently playing with the word. Beautiful, Q.! Never lose that quality of innocence and playfulness.

There you go with the questions again.....:)

Some Buddhists mess up, so you disqualify Buddha? Some Christians mess up, so you disqualify Christ?
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I donno.....is Osho, Buddha or Christ? If Alan's organization was shown to be intimidating and issuing death threats, yes, I would drop him faster than the last twelve women who met Vald.

Maybe Osho was the second coming and maybe I don't give shaktipat, but I'd steer clear of any teacher with a bunch of followers like that guy had.

A summer solstice photo tour of Small Batch Garden (and our local insanity) in the beautiful north Georgia Mountains for your enjoyment:
http://smallbatchgarden.blogspot.com/2012/06/summer-solstice-photo-tour-of-homestead.html

Cheers,
Tripp

tripp,
congratulations, hope you find what you are looking for, wherever you find it.

I'd steer clear of any teacher with a bunch of followers like that guy had.

We kind of agree. I dropped out because I could not go along with the authoritarian ways of Sheela. I don't take orders well and did not like her vibe. I felt it best to leave and Osho values freedom of movement.

Perhaps you are unaware that Osho himself called authorities to investigate Sheela as soon as he found out what she what doing.

When Sheela and her gang of criminals fled, I returned and was welcomed back by Osho.

September 14, 1985: Osho’s personal secretary Ma Anand Sheela and several members of the commune’s management suddenly leave, and a whole pattern of illegal acts they have committed - including poisoning, arson, wiretapping, and attempted murder - are exposed. Osho invites law enforcement officials to investigate Sheela’s crimes.

Asoka,
I was listing the 3 ideas of the Republicans. The idea of buying insurance across state lines for more competitive prices is what I was referring to.
That's really the only thing I got out of the debates when healthcare was the top issue.

Tomorrow it will be the hot issue again...

Being There, isn't "buying insurance across state lines" in and of itself interstate commerce which the federal government can regulate? Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see.

If the SCOTUS rules against Obamacare, it will be back to health insurance companies discriminating against the sick and the old and making women pay higher premiums than men, and the number of people who would gain health insurance coverage would be millions fewer.

Tark

I, the great unwashed.

Re: police talking to you or I?

I've always talked to cops to get their opinion. I'm curious how they see us, since they're in the middle between the ownership power bunch and the rest of the great unwashed.

I find if you treat people well they'll treat you the same--

I guess this goes back to the 60's anti-war demonstrations. In fact, I found they were pretty open.

Could it be girls have more fun?

Great pictures! Thanks for sharing.

The police think of themselves as a brotherhood -gang is more like it- so the police will be nearly one solid block most of the time.

Yeah, but we are not talking about "most of the time" when we are talking post-collapse scenarios.

To get an idea, consider the New Orleans Police Dept. which had 1,742 commissioned police officers pre-Katrina. As soon as things got rough they did not stick together as a block. Over 200 of those officers deserted the city during the storm. And that was just a hurricane. What do you think would happen if a nuclear device exploded in an urban area and high radiation levels were everywhere? I don't think we can count on the police to be there protecting the citizenry. They are going to run and protect themselves.

Hey all. Nice discussion going on this week. I was just looking at The Archdruid Report which has a real humdinger of a post called "Collapse Now and Avoid the Rush." Good reading for the doomer minded.

I promise to get my mind right. No more God talk here, not because it isn't an interesting discussion, but because it is generally off topic. Though I realize by bringing this up in the first place, I've broken my own rule already this week, and I've been highly verbose on this topic in the past (uh hem). So blame me. I'll be your scapegoat.

I will promise not to blast you with my atheist blow horn (right in your face) if you will give me the same courtesy as regards the existence and power of ancient sky gods. I always win those religious discussions anyways (wink wink).

Collapse may take from one to three centuries to unfold. It is unreasonable to think that one day, you'll go to bed, and the next day, the entire world will have gone Mad Max overnight. It won't necessarily go down like this.

Rome didn't fall in a day. Actually there were people several hundred years after the historical designation for this event that referred to themselves as Romans. Perhaps hundreds of years from now there will be people calling themselves Americans, but in actuality their old America will have disappeared without them knowing about it.

Deterioration and breakdown will proceed at different rates in various places. You can see a foreshadowing of the future in Africa's current general problems, like energy shortages, lack of enough cropland, massive poverty, unchecked (sometimes atavistic) disease epidemics, and "insecurity" or a state of low grade warfare in many places.

There's an interesting essay called "The Coming Anarchy" about what the future will look like for the poorer peoples of the world without access to resources, and it isn't that pretty. And it isn't just about Africa. I encourage you to read it.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1994/02/the-coming-anarchy/4670/

We will tend to feel the ongoing collapse as a series of personal circumstances. A homeless person lives in a state that you, coming from a warm suburban house with all the amenities (let's just say), would consider to be like that of collapse. Or at least its most people's idea of rock bottom. Scrounging through garbage cans, sleeping under freeway overpasses, and having no home is beyond the paradigm of most Americans. When more have to live like this because their conventional society is falling apart, it will start to look like more like a collapse here or, as JHK puts it, a long emergency.

As gasoline prices here and everywhere rise, there is going to be no way to hold together the sprawling, car and truck-based infrastructure of American in its current gargantuan and unsustainable form. The energy and logistical requirements to hold this system together become insurmountable once the era of cheap gas is over. Already, the interstate highway system is falling into disrepair. Many bridges and other infrastructure are old and on the verge of failing. If America can't maintain its highways, and we have the highest energy use per capita in the world, how will other countries with far lower per person access to petroleum resources, be able to do the same?

I see larger societies like America splintering into smaller semi-independent encampments, tribes, and towns that are much more concerned about personal survival, i.e. having a secure place to stay with enough food and water. The needs of national and political entities will eventually fade simply out of not being relevant at the ground level. Even if a federal structure survives that claims to control the present territory of the US, its actual control may be limited. So much depends on cars and other forms of mobile transport that when these become a lot more expensive or even unavailable, the ability to control large political areas will deteriorate considerably.

At the national level, most of the wars and fights that will go on throughout the globe as oil-based civilization goes through its death throes will be blamed on politics. But the reality will be an always shrinking energy pie with an endlessly growing demand. This is likely to play out like a vicious game of musical chairs. Certain countries will be left out of what they consider their fair share of the energy pie, and they will try to take it by force.

This is pretty much already happening right here in the US. In Iraq, there was a war blamed on WMDs but it was really about America seizing that country's petroleum reserves for the international oil companies. It was, in other words, simply a naked resource grab. Our war in Afghanistan is supposed to be about fighting the Taliban, but in reality, it is a key piece of territory for pipeline development and other energy and resource projects. Several massive multinational companies like Unocal have their eyes on that region of the world.

Dick Cheney said something about the American way of life being non-negotiable, and while others might scoff at this arrogant idea, it seems many cultural, ethnic, and religious groups feel the same way about their own. Many Christians and Muslims consider their way of life non-negotiable, for instance, and this covers a vast swatch of the total human population.

This clash of inflexible belief systems will exacerbate energy problems. In other words, instead of driving a lot less or using more fuel efficient and smaller cars, changes in their way of life, Americans would really just rather go to war and get the oil rather than change how they do things. I have a feeling this can only last so long as there are actually oil reserves worth seizing. What happens after that? Then we will really have to change. But it isn't going to be some nice transition to a smaller house with a bigger garden and a couple of cruiser bikes for most people. Nope. Not in the long term.

There will be a lot of destitute and transient people who will not know how to take care of themselves much less how to negotiate the radically different paradigms and realities of the post-exuberant age. As that population increases over time to encompass an ever growing segment of the population, questions like "When will the collapse happen?" will start to seem a bit redundant.

I listened to PCR. He says we are becoming a third world nation because the Soviet Union collapsed and the internet appeared (!), not because of Reagan's economic policies.

Reagan significantly increased public expenditures, which rose (in constant 2000 dollars) from $267.1 billion in 1980 to $393.1 billion in 1988. This was before the internet got going! The internet really didn't become a factor until long after Reagan was gone, in 1994 when HTML made the Web possible. How can PCR blame the internet?

Under Reagan's economic policies the top marginal individual income tax rate fell from 70.1% to 28.4% and the USA went from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation. This was not due to the collapse of the Soviet Union. It due to Reagan wanting to deregulate and give businessmen more money, by lowering their taxes and sending the nation into debt, you know, so the wealth would "trickle down" to us poor folk.

If you were around in the 1980s, you know how we felt like Reagan brought on the Third World. In 1983 I was scrambling with part time jobs. The unemployment rate was 10.8% nationally, and higher in my area. Reagan also never raised the minimum wage, so, not being bankers and investors, we suffered on very little income thanks to Reagan.

Some other things PCR conveniently ignores:

Under Reagan privately held federal debt increased from 22% to 38% of GDP, despite a long peacetime expansion.

Under Reagan we had the savings and loan crisis which led to an additional debt of about $125 billion due to the bailout payoffs.

Under Reagan, trade barriers increased drastically – the share of U.S. imports subject to trade restrictions increased from 12% in 1980 to 23% in 1988.

I know the guy worked for Reagan, but does PCR have to continue to be a Reagan apologist? PCR should be Haitian. His voodoo economics that Reagan wanted implemented damaged the USA.

"It was kind of hard to punish people who were seen as fighting communism." -- PCR

Yep, Reagan spend the country into bankruptcy, but he convinced everyone we were fighting against an enemy, so Reagan could violate laws right and left and get away with it. PCR ignores Reagan's illegal acts (Iran-contra) which should have led to Reagan's impeachment. Instead PCR focuses on criticizing Bush and Obama and the neo-Cons.


Nice shrooms dude. Thems look tasty.

Nice rebuttal there, soka. You know stuff.

Thanks, Turkle, but it was just coming through me, a message from the god-inspired Wikipedia.

Just kidding! There is no god. We are all gods.

As Stewart Brand said: We are as gods and had better get good at it. (paraphrased) Little comfort if you think about the Judea-Christian god who created the world, messed up, then decided, like Romney, to Etch-a-Sketch it away, with a big flood. Like us, even the mainstream gods are fallible. Sorry, didn't mean to get back onto gods.

In defense of Stewart Brand, who is on topic in this week's JHK post, future nuclear power from Thorium would avoid the nuclear problems from uranium. Thorium is plentiful, cheap, does not leave behind a radioactive waste, etc.

From Wikipedia: (which Prog4Spam says is reliable)

** Weapons-grade fissionable material (233U) is harder to retrieve safely and clandestinely from a thorium reactor;

** Thorium produces 10 to 10,000 times less long-lived radioactive waste;

** The fissionable thorium cycle uses 100% of the isotope as coming out of the ground, which does not require enrichment, whereas the fissile uranium cycle depends on only the 0.7% fissile U-235 of the natural uranium. The same cycle could also use the fissionable U-238 component of the natural uranium, and also contained in the depleted reactor fuel;

** Thorium cannot sustain a nuclear chain reaction without priming so fission stops by default.

Q., there is work for you correcting errors in Wikipedia. For example, this that I copy/pasted directly from Wikipedia is full of errors, and no one has jumped in to correct them:

The fissionable thorium cycle uses 100% of the isotope as coming out of the ground, which does not require enrichment, whereas the fissile uranium cycle depends on only the 0.7% fissile U-235 of the natural uranium. The same cycle could also use the fissionable U-238 component of the natural uranium, and also contained in the depleted reactor fuel

It is fun to correct and improve Wikipedia. There are more errors in Wikipedia than you can shake a stick at.

The frustrating part is that someone can come along and "correct" your "corrections" and so on and so forth ... all of which makes Wikipedia an extremely untrustworthy source, in spite of what Prog4Spam says.

,"Many Christians and Muslims consider their way of life non-negotiable, for instance and this covers a vast swatch of the total human population."

I gots to point to a tickler here. (Mind you, I'm not compulsively disagreeing.)

As much as I would enjoy "ways of life" to be as whimsical as picking out matching drapes or properly chromatic carpeting, I think you were going for "swath" here.

(It was funny though, so thanks for that! ;o)

Swatch here, as Turkle is using it, indicates variety. It works better than swath.

swatch/swäCH/
Noun:

A sample, esp. of fabric.
A collection of such samples, esp. in the form of a book.

swath/swäTH/
Noun:

A row or line of grass, grain, or other crop as it lies when mown or reaped.
A strip left clear by the passage of a mowing machine or scythe.

One picking of the lousy nit, I think.
No, the Roman Empire did not collapse in a day.
This ain't no Rome, and The Collapse will be televised, big media or no. Before the intertubes get shut down (due to their infotainment-y content), word will get out that enough of the shit has hit the fan for the world-as-we've-gotten-well-used-to has fuggin' evaporated. That will be much sooner than you postulate (my personal bet), so you'll be quite unprepared to make a new "way" for sustaining yourself, as you think you've got the rest of the century/lifetime (whichever comes first) to "work things out".

Go right ahead; place your bets in that direction. In fact, I encourage that for all that think there's "plenty of time, no worries". Now, guess why. WSP and I are "closer" than you might speculate on many things...

L'kay,
As always, your point is mislaid.
Going right back to ignoring you, as you've fucked up by dint of your grand assumptions once again.
There's a HUGE difference in the import/impact of these meanings IN CONTEXT; if you don't get that, you don't get much. (I'll go with the latter and get back to "other things", like checking for cuticle damage.)

Now, guess why.

I know, I know!

It's because you want the "plenty of time, no worries" folks to shut the fuck up and die.

You despise them. You think collapse is some kind of Darwinian survival of the fittest culling of the herd. You are wrong.

But you are also right about this not being Roman times. We have so much more to rely upon than the Romans, and human nature has changed, so we will avoid collapse completely.

I have been pointing this out for seven years on this blog, and still you harbor fantasies of mass extinction. And still you say things like "That will be much sooner than you postulate (my personal bet)..." betraying a secret desire.

All your short event horizon timelines over the years have proven wrong. Yet you continue to be a true believer.

this covers a vast swatch of the total human population.
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A swatch is by definition a small sample so "vast" is an inappropriate modifier. The word you're looking for is swath.

Actually, a swath can be wide but not really vast since vastness would make a swath lose its identity as a path through some larger area.

How about a vast portion?

ROCKY MOUNTAIN HIGH

Part of the CFN liturgy is that "human nature" does not change, has not changed. But human nature has changed over time.

For example, the link between sex and childbirth has been shattered forever. That's a pretty major change right there. It blows a lot of our traditional beliefs and moral codes right out of the water, which may be why it freaks out the Pope. Recreational sex!

As recently as a century ago, half of all children died before the age of five, the average woman died in childbirth in her late 30s, and the average man croaked due to some infectious disease in his 40s. Wow, that's sure changed! And if doubling something's effective lifespan doesn't count as a "change in its nature", I don't know what does.

I can hop into a motor vehicle, transform myself into a what is essentially a cyborg, capable of traveling farther in ten minutes than most humans ever traveled in their entire lives.

We can fly! Yeah, some of those old saints and prophets claimed they could float around a bit when no one else was watching, but I can set up a glider, hop off a mountain, and do the real thing.

You can't get lost anymore. With a cheap little box, you can know exactly where you are, forever.

We can create clones, transplant organs, extend our lifespan, and modify our genome. Prehistoric peoples ... not so much.

We can have thoughts, concepts, and developmental experiences that would have been impossible for our ancestors even to imagine, let alone have. This has impacted our attitudes, culture, even the cognitive development of our living brains. That is change in human nature.

Q., there is work for you correcting errors in Wikipedia.
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That paragraph you quoted is a doozy of poor sentence structure but...

no thanks, I've got my hands full with CFN.

And by the way, I disagree with your rationale for swatch. See above.

And by the way, I disagree with your rationale for swatch. See above.

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You don't really disagree. Your suggestion was "vast portion."

Portion is a part, a smaller unit. Vast is large, so vast is really not an adequate modifier for portion.

However, swatch is a sample. A vast swatch is a large sample. Sample sizes can be large. I think that is what Turkle was getting at. Since he did say "of the total human population" he was referring to a swatch, not the total population.

Swath is not correct because a swatch does not get a heterogeneous sample. A swath, by definition, is a smaller homogeneous sample, and is not "vast."

What was your first language, Q.?

Swath is not correct because a ^swath^ does not get a heterogeneous sample.

Thanks for the correction, editor-in-chief.

You're right. Swatches aren't large. They can fit in your pocket and come in various colors. Swath would be fine. Portion is good too. Were you a HS English teacher in a previous life, Q? Your tendency pick a few mistakes or mistypes out of a whole long post is quite remarkable.

Anywho, yeah, the one thing I wrote that I immediately had second thoughts upon in that long post about collapse was the time scale, as a century or three is too long. The exact timing wasn't the point, just that these things take some time to unfold.

I encourage that for all that think there's "plenty of time, no worries". Now, guess why. WSP and I are "closer" than you might speculate on many things...


You have no inkling as to how close any supposed 'end events' are, just your own teener-like desire for campy Steven Spielbergesque apocalypse.

The world was magnitudes worse off in past epochs.

Really, grow up.

Laughable.

peace peaceniks

Yes, we're both beautiful people. As you know, attraction and aversion are just opposite sides of the same coin. I'm going against my prejudice against Jill as Jewish Liberal and you aginst your prejudice for Obama as a fellow Black.

Ditto your statement to Kyoo. One of Alan Watt's earliest memories was playing with a little piece his own shit. His father took it from him, looked at it, and then gave it back to him.

Yeah look how we got to watch the demolition of Reginald Denny. No doubt you were cheering wildly with the bruthas.

the one thing I wrote that I immediately had second thoughts upon in that long post about collapse was the time scale
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Short of some black swan catalyst I believe collapse will play out over at least a century. It certainly won't happen in the short time frame depicted in World Made by Hand and its sequel, The Witch of Hebron.

Nevertheless, I don't fault JHK for cramming it all into the very near future as he has for what are, I believe, artistic reasons.

And, BTW, I withdraw my remark to Asoka that "I disagree with your rationale for swatch." Having since given more thought to both of his posts on the subject I now conclude he is totally full of shit and contrary for the sake of contrariness which, as we all know, is Asoka's shtick.

The power of the Woman is formidable, is it not? And Be is obviously confident of her own charms.

The Maharishi seduced Mia Farrow? Or did she seduce him because of his power and influence? Who can say? But he was the elder and a monk, so even if the latter, he is more to blame.

He liked blondes - who can blame him in that? I don't know about the song. Maybe it was for Sadie the follow of Charles Manson.

A swath also has a certain vague, random or uncalculated connotation. No exact measurment can be a swath.

Isn't a swatch a kind of watch? Or just the band?

I found this to be a very interesting article but I'm not quite sure what to think because the author claims the following:

"The discovery has rocked scientists around the world. Will they rush to investigate it? No, they're more likely to studiously ignore it. "

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2301/051/Giant_Crystal_Pyramid_Discovered_In_Bermuda_Triangle.html

A military nerd trapped in a woman's body - Dee my heart goes out to you.

If swatch had been capitalized, then I would still not agree with you, as a Swatch is a wristwatch, and the adjective vast would still not be appropriate.

I'm just throwing back your nit-wit nitpicking, which now ozone is also doing. It is as much a time-wasting schtick (an acceptable variant spelling of shtick) as my schtick.

By the way, I do not agree completely that my schtick is being contrary, though a certain element of contrariness comes into play from time to time.

Do I contradict myself? Very well then, I contradict myself. I am large and contain multitudes ... including contrary positions. :)


Quite true. Scientists value their own careers, tenure, funding, standing with other scientists and associations, etc. All of this is natural but none of it has anything to do with truth. It has gotten to the point where the structure is crushing the spirit of investigaion. So when they found a Caucasian skeleton that was older than Indian ones - insted of studying it they buried it by giving it to the local tribe who claimed it was one of their's, which it obviously wasn't. Neither the Indians nor the Anthropologists want to know the Truth about this. There's just to much to lose.

There's just to much to lose.
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too ;0)

Here's a big long post from Dmitri Orlov on this topic.

http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2012/06/fragility-and-collapse-slowly-at-first.html

He thinks about this a lot more than me. Now I'm more convinced of a faster time scale.

What does faster time scale mean?

Days? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? Centuries?

In geologic time those are all fast time scales.

"...predicting that something is going to happen is a lot easier than predicting when something will happen." -- Dmitri Orlov, blowing smoke

No, it's not. Dmitri gives the example of a deteriorating bridge, losing concrete chunks every year from age and use. He cannot say when it will collapse, but he can say with certainty that it is going to collapse someday.

Can no one else here see the fallacy in that thinking?

Unbelievable! Isn't Obama a big Brinkin supporter?

"San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin .................

Brinkin, 66, who worked for the San Francisco Human Rights Commission before his retirement in 2010, was taken into custody Friday night. He spent the night in jail before he was released on bail, according to a spokeswoman for the sheriff's department.

The district attorney's office will decide Tuesday whether to file charges. ...................................................

Police say that Brinkin had pornographic images, some that appear to show children as young as 1 and 2 or 3 years old being sodomized............................................................................................

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Vlad said:
I'm happy that you have fully confessed your sin. In honor of this, and in light of Romney and Ron Paul's betrayal, I'm going to cast a protest vote for "Jill" too. She's an abominable mutlicultist, but she's right about some things. But how much are the Greens being infiltrated by the Democrat Left? In any case, I'll vote for her this time.
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I, too, have to swallow my pride as regards Ms. Stein's rather hackneyed multiculturalism. However, we are living at a time when the dominant middle-class culture in the USA is dying on the vine. At such catastrophic times, we have to prioritize our issues. For me, this means putting a stop to "endless war for endless peace" and forcefully changing the entire financial sector, dictatorially if need be.

This is an exceptional time in US and world history and there are plenty of law-abiding, formerly-middle-class whites who probably now feel like galley slaves. At such exceptional times, we have to circle the wagons to kill the largest demons and worry about the smaller ones later.


E.

More news for your guy, Buck Stud:

Romney trails the president, albeit narrowly, in the RCP Average. This puts Obama in a better position than Al Gore, who trailed George W. Bush by four points in Gallup in June. It puts Obama in a better position than Bill Clinton in 1992, who trailed George H.W. Bush by six points in June. It puts Obama in a better position than Bush 41 in 1988, who trailed Michael Dukakis by nine points in June, and Ronald Reagan, who trailed Jimmy Carter by a pair in 1980.


From:

http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=178031

The Punishment Mode

The same set of processes that made the money accumulate and then be frozen into real estate, in other words, the same set of jobs, interactions, exchanges, social interactions and exchanges and especially the psychological environments (culture), the expectations, the desire to invest and make a profit, etc. that were operating and abundant and blooming in the Bubble Years, or Boom Years, (or mostly probably the Inflation Years, or better still the Home Prices Inflation Years) are no longer operating or are operating at much reduced levels, can no longer be activated, the jobs have changed, a lot of work is no longer necessary, or the jobs have been offshored or automated or whatever.

So, just like a diode can conduct current in only one direction and not the other, just like a Cash to Property Converter that crystallizes the Money into Property Values, but you can't make it go backwards anymore, you can't convert the Property Values to Cash anymore because that would mean you can extract money from real estate and activate processes with it, exchange processes, but this is no longer possible, you can't create jobs anymore, you can't convert Home Prices and Values into a Process and reverse the set of events that froze the money into Real Estate in the first place, you essentially get stuck, you get stuck with High Property Values and Prices and No Jobs (and millions of empty homes in Spain and the USA).

The only real solution is to make the property values Crash, Baby Crash hugely worldwide, all over the place, kill those Home Prices, a 3 bedroom home in the middle of Manhattan or Los Angeles, or Tokyo or Paris or Rome, etc. should not be valued at more than 50,000 dollars or 200 dollars a month rent. In this way, there may be a chance to activate some exchange processes again, to create some jobs again, etc.

But everyone is in Punishment Mode, everyone blaming everyone else of why the economy sucks, everyone wanting to punish everyone else by calling them lazy, firing them, they don't "Work Hard Enough" hence they don't deserve cash anymore, they don't "Innovate Enough" and so forth: exactly when a society goes in Punishment Mode, and gets stingy, and no longer wants to pay out Free Salaries, Huge Welfare, give out cash for free, but wants People to "Deserve It" is exactly when it becomes poorer and poorer since eveyone doesn't trust or value anyone else anymore, everyone is an enemy of everyone else who "Doesn't Deserve Anything" since they are all freeloaders and don't want to "Work Hard Enough" and so on.

But the 20th century west got rich exactly by being less stingy, less demanding of others, less fixed on this Punishment Mode, on the Myth of "Hard Work"(which is mostly an artistic, aesthetical choice, the boss wants to see you "Work Hard" and suffer (and creates so many useless tasks in order to make people Work Hard at essentially nothing but wasting resources, mostly working hard at selling fluff to other people and fighting other people, the interaction and conflicts and exhanges with other people and their opposition to your will power is what work essentially consists of today in the crappy "Services Economy") etc.) so that you deserve your money when this is all useless and meaningless and just a show, especially when our present economic system has absolutely nothing at all to do with work anymore, it is mostly an Automatic System with huge economies of scale, a Technological Economy that needs work like a hole in the head and needs more than anything else consumption and people buying like crazy, buy baby buy. A Technological Economy creates Free Wealth by the boatloads and can esaily give it all out to everyone for free, etc. but we are stuck in the Stone Ages with our Ape Man Mentality.

Hence we need:

1) Free Salaries to all worldwide (800 dollars a month);

2) Cheap Rents to all worldwide (200 dollars a month for a 3 bedroom home in Manhattan or 50 dollars a month for the same in some suburb, etc.);

3) Trillions of huge large scale Public Private projects for the future, Space Exploration, Skyscrapers, High Speed trains, you name it.

But then again, when you know that all judgements, choices, all interactions and politics and all the possible ways to program a society as Man is the Infinitely Programmable Machine depends simply on what a dominating random Mind thinks is better, just the judgment of another person, and you know that the judgment and choices and preferences of any mind are worthless always, meaningless, arbitrary and have no value at all, everything is mostly vain and useless anyways..


THE APE MAN, THE 8 MEN, THE TOBOR....

But the 20th century west got rich exactly by being less stingy, less demanding of others, less fixed on this Punishment Mode, on the Myth of "Hard Work"(which is mostly an artistic, aesthetical choice, the boss wants to see you "Work Hard" and suffer (and creates so many useless tasks in order to make people Work Hard at essentially nothing but wasting resources, mostly working hard at selling fluff to other people and fighting other people, the interaction and conflicts and exhanges with other people and their opposition to your will power is what work essentially consists of today in the crappy "Services Economy") etc.) so that you deserve your money when this is all useless and meaningless and just a show, especially when our present economic system has absolutely nothing at all to do with work anymore, it is mostly an Automatic System with huge economies of scale, a Technological Economy that needs work like a hole in the head and needs more than anything else consumption and people buying like crazy, buy baby buy. A Technological Economy creates Free Wealth by the boatloads and can easily give it all out to everyone for free, etc. but we are stuck in the Stone Ages with our Ape Man Mentality.

I have long ago decided to vote for Jill Stein as well. At the political sites there are many of us who support her.

Barry was bought and paid for and has no moral compass. If anyone had done a modicom of research on him, his dealings with Rezko, how he treated his political mentor Alice Palmer, the tenaments, getting Jeri Ryan's divorce documents unsealed, humiliating her and her family just to make her ex-husband drop out of the US Senate race. Barry Zero is a crook. Abandoned by his father and his mother later he formed no inner core his "personality formation" did not develop well.

I suggest reading some of the political forums such as John W. Smart or others to find out what kind of a man he is.

This is also in response to Being There and Ozone, glad you're also voting for Jill Stein. If enough of us vote for her maybe something will come of it. Who knows.

E.

Sadly and realistically, I don't think JS has a snowball's chance in hell to get elected. Nobody even knows who she is, thanks to the war-contract corporate media. I would say that she is a protest vote for those who want to make a statement.

BTW I wrote to Wage about all our comments and she said, "That's funny! Maybe that kind of coalition will put some fear into our ruling overlords."

(I personally don't think they give a rat's ass)

JHK has mentioned a few times that maybe the military should run a candidate to put things back in place and get back into the business of being a sovereign nation.

But we have to realize that everything about this system is set in place. The civilian leadership from government to universities, to corporations have pretty much gone neoliberal global with that Milton Friedman twist, you know I love so well.

Craig Paul Roberts said in that interview I posted yesterday, elections are not going to change this.

He said the Republicans can fix the race because they have companies who develop the voting machines and the Democrats have demurred.

The way the Soviet Union broke the chains was for the leadership to realize the system no longer worked for them and then they changed.

Its really the only way this is going to happen since most of the citizenry think they're free. Yes, in an inverted totalitarian state, people think they are making choices and slowly it dawns on them that everything continues to move in the same direction no matter who's in office.

If people think Li-ber-ty means owning guns with no gun control, than they are easily satisfied by making the other party the bogey-man and happy with the top tier making all the money by hook-or-by-crook and having no regulations and no taxation.

That said, they fail to realize that everyone becomes the victim of whatever money-making scheme they have to extract wealth from them. They notice nothing until the daisy chain comes for them.

The real change-maker may come from outside the country where other countries with national pride compete and overcome.

PS. Someone said yesterday the JHK didn't mention China in TLE. He did in fact say a couple of things. He said they have high expectations and with a strong army they will be a major competitor for resources and they will probably beat us out, as our military is being spent.

The other comment he made was that they too will experience the same contraction we will at the end of the day and their whole program will fall apart.

One more thing before I have to go (to work)

The whole Operation Fast and Furious is indeed problematic, but Fortune Magazine did a 4-month research into the allegations and found the "whistle Blower" may have gone off the reservation and is making false allegations.

There may be no there, there.

The Republicans are already saying impeachment. Yes, no matter what happened during "W's"time, not one Dem said the "I" word.

If you watch the Rep's pattern, they really despise the 2-party system.

Distribute Wealth ?

So given that the Technological Economy has absolutely nothing at all to do with Work, Labor or any kind of Effort of any kind anymore, how on earth are you going to distribute the wealth that it automatically generates by the boatloads? Are you going to force fake and make believe and imaginary exchanges people will perform for a salary anyways ? Are you going to give the cash out for free to all ? are you going to LEND it out and make everyone have huge debts in the end (subprime loans to buy McMansions: another sign of Huge Excess Capacity and Free Wealth Generation the Technological Economy generates automatically, thousands of McMansions and such, thousands of high rises in China and such) all in the name of trying to desperately hide the truth that labor is no longer needed, is redundant, nay, that any human interaction and social exchanges at all are rednudant, not needed and not necessary anymore, the system is mostly a huge Automatic Economy, generates wealth and goods by huge economy of scales, networks, huge flows of Energy and Oil, Electricity, Machines, Automated subsystems, automated and optimized production processes worldwide (and even if not automated, then run by very cheap and abundant labor in poorer countries, etc.) ? No ? Well then just be honest and give it all out for free, let it all hang out, give out free salaries and cheap rents to all worldwide and get it over with once and for all.

And you can easily see how unecessary work is in this economic system when all of a sudden companies layoff hundreds or thousands of people (for the bottom line): obviously all of those people and their labor was worthless and optional anyways, it wasn't really need, otherwise you couldn't do that, on two feet. And how much time millions of people waste in offices, in meetings and interactions and fights and lawyers, all of the people goofing off in Education (and probably a good deal in health Care) etc. all the while the economists and politicians are always making believe that there are all of these deep "Structural Reasons" why the economy must be organized as it is, labor must be "flexible", globalization must allow outsourcing or whatever.

All of the talk about Innovation and always changing kinds of jobs every two years and so forth goes to show how not necessary and optional and all fun and games all of those "Innovations" and "New Jobs" really are, how they have nothing at all to do with the Economy at all, nothing at all to do with the Technological Economy generating free wealth and providing all of the basics to all. All of the new startups, IPADS, APPS, new jobs, are all about fun and games and fluff and make believe comic book jobs and work: things that are just cool artistically and aesthetically, it looks like real work, but the Technological Economy doesn't even notice, and needs all of those jobs like a hole in the head. It is all just a ritual, a make believe, no real necessity or needs behind it. The only need it satisfies is to make people think that they are necessary and important and that their labor counts: nothing further from the truth, all of their labor is totally irrelevant.

There are no structural invariants for a Technological Economy, people can simply get a free salary, it would actually make the economies way richer by wasting less energy to go back and forth to work and printing loads of paper that is useless anyways. All of that imaginary work and activity just tries to hide the fact that it is a cultural and social ritual, a make believe that our culture imposes, just because, for no real reason at all, because that is how the powers that be programmed it to be (or the casual forces of society programmed people and the people let themselves be programmed by), not because LABOR or WORK is a real necessity for the economy to work anymore, to feed people or to produce goods: and in fact notice that the parking lots of malls are always full no matter how high the unemployement rate or how bad the economy is doing etc., the goods flow always, people travel and the airports and highways are crowded.

The limitations are all cultural, psychological and are all based on an artistic - aesthetic, arbitrary, random choice of wanting people to "work" 8 hours a day and pretending that it is needed: it is hard to find a substitute to this ritual because all of the values, ideas, all of the distribution of wealth must be performed through "work" or what passes for "work".

It was all true and necessary (work and labor was needed, factories needed the 8 hour a day labor, etc.) up until the mid 20th century, then the Huge Productive Power of the Technological Economy started to show its force, just look at how much production went into World War Two (All government paid, but in that case, welfare was ok, the government paying for it all was ok, etc.), Germany alone produced enough to battle half of the world for almost five years, then the productive power of the USA kicked in, etc. By the 1950s we were essentially already living in an Automatic - Free Wealth Generating Technological Economy and this is even before the power of the Microprocessor, Computers and the Internet kicked in and with a much more primitive technology compared to today.

The Hippies knew this, that is what the counterculture was all about, they knew that humanity was essentially free from labor by the use of Technology and expected the Utopia to kick in: it didn't happen, the Right Wing Conservatives won and kept everyone brainwashed about all of these limitations and the need for Work and all of the Resource Scarcity Myths, etc.

Oh, I forgot, Man is the fight, the conflict, without the fight and conflict and everyone against everyone else, and everyone wanting to be the boss of everyone else and impose "Hard Work" on the loser, Man is undefined, gets lost, cannot measure himself against others. He needs inequality always, the "I am Better Than You" (or especially I "Deserve" more than you (but who judges who deserves ? another arbitrary clown, that's who)), the contrasts, the conflicts, the fights, complexity, and problems, the problems and the freeloaders and lazy turds to blame why the "Economy Is Not Doing Well" etc.

Well, the Economy Is Not Doing Well because there are no long any circuits to distribute the wealth it generates automatically unless you finally decide to give out free salaries and cheap rents to all worldwide. AMEN.

So given that the Technological Economy has absolutely nothing at all to do with Work, Labor or any kind of Effort of any kind anymore, how on earth are you going to distribute the wealth that it automatically generates by the boatloads? Are you going to force fake and make believe and imaginary exchanges people will perform for a salary anyways ? Are you going to give the cash out for free to all ? are you going to LEND it out and make everyone have huge debts in the end (subprime loans to buy McMansions: another sign of Huge Excess Capacity and Free Wealth Generation the Technological Economy generates automatically, thousands of McMansions and such, thousands of high rises in China and such) all in the name of trying to desperately hide the truth that labor is no longer needed, is redundant, nay, that any human interaction and social exchanges at all are redundant, not needed and not necessary anymore, the system is mostly a huge Automatic Economy, generates wealth and goods by huge economy of scales, networks, huge flows of Energy and Oil, Electricity, Machines, Automated subsystems, automated and optimized production processes worldwide (and even if not automated, then run by very cheap and abundant labor in poorer countries, etc.) ? No ? Well then just be honest and give it all out for free, let it all hang out, give out free salaries and cheap rents to all worldwide and get it over with once and for all.

And you can easily see how unecessary work is in this economic system when all of a sudden companies layoff hundreds or thousands of people (for the bottom line): obviously all of those people and their labor was worthless and optional anyways, it wasn't really needed, otherwise you couldn't do that, on two feet. And how much time millions of people waste in offices, in meetings and interactions and fights and lawyers, all of the people goofing off in Education (and probably a good deal in health Care) etc. all the while the economists and politicians are always making believe that there are all of these deep "Structural Reasons" why the economy must be organized as it is, labor must be "flexible", globalization must allow outsourcing or whatever.

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"The way the Soviet Union broke the chains was for the leadership to realize the system no longer worked for them and then they changed.

Its really the only way this is going to happen since most of the citizenry think they're free. Yes, in an inverted totalitarian state, people think they are making choices and slowly it dawns on them that everything continues to move in the same direction no matter who's in office."

LB/BT,
I agree with your analysis. (Surprise, surprise! ;o)
Just watched "My Perestroika". One of the protagonists had an encapsulation of the time immediately following the Military/Yeltsin showdown in Moscow. It was a study in "watching between the shadows": While the people were exuberant in their triumph over a potential coup and were engaged in singing, drinking and dancing, the new government was busy promising things they had no resources/money to provide, while also acting as a giant pipe vacuuming up money to send westward. When LARGE SWATHS of folks began falling into extreme privation, they awakened to their new paradigm (not that they could do much about it). Another commented on the amazingly swift changes of mind (from committed nationalist to hardened cynic).
Of course, privation turned out [as always] to be the key.

...But those are Russkies. We're different.
Riiiiiiight. (tm CFT)

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Pretty good analysis yourself there, OzPete. Well stated. You never cease to amaze me.

I was meaning to ask you, those exotic places featured on your site, have you visited them?

It seems like the rest of the nation west of here is burning up, literally and figuratively; 'round these parts, though, its cool and crisp. We truly are blessed.

Anybody see the lengthy, front page article in the WSJ Wednesday stating that by 2030 the US will be completely independent of the Middle East and Africa for oil due to the new oil shale fields within our continental lower 48. They had some bar graphs showing pretty rosy oil production figures going forward. But when you read the article, not just the headline, the most they expect to get out of these fields is 1.6 million bpd, which doesn't really square with the headline. And the myriad problems with fracking, as well a boiling oil out of tar sands and rock is never even mentioned.

--WSP7

We can have thoughts, concepts, and developmental experiences that would have been impossible for our ancestors even to imagine, let alone have. This has impacted our attitudes, culture, even the cognitive development of our living brains. That is change in human nature.
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What we think about is not human nature, why we think about it and what our motivations are, is (are, is --can you do that?, kyoo help me out here)

4000 yrs ago we were chasing each other around throwing rocks, now days its RPGs, same motivation, same human nature. I don't see the progress here, other than we're more efficient is actualizing our tendencies.

Oh yea, I've been meaning to ask, who is Osho? I read quite a bit but that's one name I've never come across.

--WSP7

Good point.
(Or are you just being "contentious"? ;o)

Yep, been all dem places, and many more. (I'd really have a tough time making a list of all the various dirt-s I've trampled.)

Has the WSJ gone completely cognitive-dissonant? That's really weird, holding two contradictory viewpoints as "conclusive" within the same article.

(BTW, sorry for the Asokaistic use of fractious wordings. Smacks a bit of "pissy-ness" don't it? ;o)

Hey!
Don't ask that too "loudly"; someone is bound to answer (in a lengthy manner).

I know it was an older jet. But what would it cost to replace it? If they replace it. I doubt there's any more phantoms coming off the production lines. How likely is it that they can score a used phantom from some other air force? Modern jets are monumentally expensive.

or example, all empires eventually collapse, with no exceptions; therefore, the USA will collapse. There, I did it. But it is not possible to predict when something will happen because of the problem of missing information: we have a mental model of how something continues to exist, not of how it unexpectedly ceases to exist. ---Orlov
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While Orlov's overall thesis is highly persuasive, I disagree on one substantial point.

It is not that we are "missing information" to make predictions, it is that the number of variables are just too numerous. Things can appear to be "getting better" and "getting worse" at the same time, depending on how you spin the data and which data points you choose to emphasize. That creates counter-noise in any attempt to realistically assess Orlov's curves, and sometimes that counter-noise is correct. (Predictions of Peak Oil have been around since 1890) That's a much bigger problem in predictability than missing information.

I agree that collapse is inevitable, and we appear well along the curve, but maybe it always appears that way at any given time. I once made the point here that it could have been argued in the 1890s, that NYC would be overwhelmed with horseshit very soon. But of course, that didn't turn out to be the case. While I think its unlikely, our concerns about PO and energy supply could in the next 100 years, be just as ephemeral.

Within any timeframe, there are only possibilities, with various levels of probability, no "sure things.", as Orlov stated. A much bigger issue is, "knowing" what will happen, doesn't seen to change anything. It's going to happen anyway.

Oh yea, I've been meaning to ask, who is Osho? I read quite a bit but that's one name I've never come across.
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I'm certain that Stein's candidacy is going nowhere but I'd like to see her poll numbers high enough to start putting 3rd party fears into the two main parties ... like Perot did many years ago.

However, I have to go along with Vlad that I find her multi-culti orientation to be a bitter pill to swallow. Progressives such as yourself have to live with the idea that Stein's social leftism means that nearly all her votes will steal votes from Obama and may well allow Romney to steal the election.

I see this, ironically, as a good thing because I think the country needs to see, in plain view, what the Republicans really are: Mean-spirited haters of the middle class. I think the YOUNG will really start getting pissed off under a Romney Presidency and may well start instigating social disorder. Right now, our youth are merely depressed because of a total lack of economic opportunities (as Joe Stiglitz pointed out last week). Sooner or later, this must lead to destabilization of the country. Idle youth have much destructive energy.


E.

Or, to put it more succinctly, "missing information" is the "god" of predictability. As long as you believe it exists, you can keep looking for it. Creating the illusion of eventual success and redemption.

"agnostics" of predictability like myself consider the problem essential, more information will only create more possibilities.

"an endless regurgitation of statistics" - this is a point I notice a lot. It reminds me of 1984 where the TV is constantly churning out how many shoes were created and other productivity related information.

Great post. go to http://eatthewholechicken.com if you want to learn to butcher a chicken.

Rajneesh got alot of much deserved bad press.
So he renamed himself Osho, perhaps as damage control.
See: 'The god that failed' and similar books at Amazon.
He was a money hungry druggie pretending to be a Buddha.

On a different note, are you near Camden?
Just heard NPR, talking streets where all houses are abandoned, 100 'open air drug markets' etc.

Cognitive-dissonance?

In other words a little bit wacky?

True. But I'm good at keeping it buried underneath a vail of suburban conventionality.

-WSP7

I agree, but sometimes, I don't know... sometimes I just have an overwhelming urge to not let someone get away with bullshit.

WSJ ...A few years back published an article on how
'Immigrants will save SSI'.....hows that for stupid?

AntiSoak, Q is near Camden. We're about 200 mile north of there.

ASoak, what happened in Stockton? a city of 300,000 filing bankruptcy? Is it big news in Cal?

--WSP7

Popping back in fer a minute...

Basically, just one of many delusional precursors to profound, screaming madness. ;o)


I view the Rajneesh phenomenon as an omen of the beginning of the failure of critical thinking in the professional classes. One sees the aftermath, still, in the large number of people on the West Coast who believe in silly things like astrology, tossing I Ching coins, extreme fad dietary regimens, and other silly New Age notions.

That's why advanced degrees mean little to me any more. Their holders often believe in superstitious drivel as much as the village idiots.

E.

I can commiserate.

O Ya, A Soak, finishing up 'Too Much Magic'.

Jim picks up where he left off in TLE. Pretty much has the best explanation and summary of the fin. meltdown in 2008 I've seen so far. Jim has a good ability to explain and make sense of complex situations for simpletons like myself, which I believe is his main strength. More on it when I'm done.

--WSP7

Here's a response by D.O. to a response to a guest posting on his site. (Huh? It's okay, you'll get the gist of the drift. ;o)

..."People are submissive as long as the power over them is unfettered and practiced with impunity. Martyrdom is rare because it is irrational. But absolute power not only corrupts absolutely, it also collapses catastrophically. The hope is that it all disintegrates into sufficiently small pieces to make large-scale violence impossible. Large-scale collectivism is inherently warlike regardless of ideology. The first symptom of collapse to watch for is the first successful armed rebellion around the fringes of the empire, or the controlled, centrally governed space, followed by a proliferation of imperial no-go zones, on the periphery as well as right in the centers of large cities. For only the third time in the history of global empires, the Pashtun tribesmen in Afghanistan and Pakistan seem to be leading the way." -D.O.

At any rate, there's what one might call a "prime indicator". (Of course, as dale insists, the more factors introduced, the more possibility of different outcomes, but this one seems pretty "confirmative" of a general direction to me.)

There are other parts of this conversation that touch on the emphasis of "non-violent activism" by the media and its' various paid experts as a way to maintain the status quo. (Kind of an insistence that "violence won't change a thing". Oh no? We'll see, when da yout's get good and riled.)

Okay........ out.

What false allegations? That America allowed thousands of firearms to fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels resulting in hundreds of deaths? That really happened.

I go with Rush: a blatant attempt on the part of the Administration to implicate the American People and the 2nd Ammendment with a view towards curtailing it.

The greatest minds of antiquity believed in some of these things. People have stupid takes on them just as they do energy, politics, internal combustion engines etc. They "believe" in electricity the same way they believe in astrology - as magic.

Check out the new UFO series and then dig deeper: the PTB have a Plan B to create a UFO religion or threat to help with Globablism.

The problem with Orlov's use of the bridge is telling, as an engineer he tends to see systems as bounded, with a determinant
number of variables. When you are talking about "economies" or "civilizations" you are talking about systems which are extremely unbounded, difficult to even define much less quantify. New variables are introduced all the time, and game changers at that. Efforts to simplify (as with JHK or Limbaugh) may make you more comfortable with the unknown, but provide little real useful insight.

When Limbaugh says "It's really very simple folks", that's when you know it isn't. Don't confuse emotionalism with reason.

I'll say one thing for Stein: she's not the Debbie Schultz or Joe Lieberman Elders of Zion type. Like Dennis Kucinic, she seems very nice and utterly sincere - a true Liberal of the new old school.

Kucinic seems like a very nice man - meeting exactly the self image Jews have of themselves but seldom actually match. I got a pamphlet about him given out by Muslims who were using a moribund Christian Church they were using. What was it - he wants a Department of Peace? Frightening - this man should never be allowed anywhere near the corridors of international power. And wont be: those are controlled by those who want to conquer the World. Oh for a fiery John Adams, or wise Thomas Jefferson - men jealous of our Sovereignty and vengeful of any trespass on it or our borders, but peaceful and indifferent to all that transpires beyond. In other words, the Balance implicit in a Centre.

Imagine what Obama will do next time when he hands are free. But as Lenin said, worse is better. Romney as a Bush3, will just put people to sleep as conditions continue to worsen. Obama has awoken many Whites to our peril.

If this election has any reality, it might reflect the conflict between the Neo Cons represented by Romney, and the classic globalists represented by Obama. Both of these are deadly enemies of the White Race and Western Civilization.

Thank you for helping to awaken Be. I have been trying for a long time. And now she has convinced me to vote for Jill. We all have to help each other. You are a good Sister.

I agree from my experience in the world, that JEWS are ARE smarter than most.

Why is that? and that I Like them, before I know that they are Jewish. Meaning not Because they are but just That they are. Doesn't change whether I like them or not.


The Ultimate Secret. The Master Key to understand all social issues. Once understood, one merely has to inquire which races focus on r strategies and which on k.

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But do they like you? And if so, is it because you like them or for your own intrinsic qualities?

The Jews have spent alot of money getting Whites to like them and feel sorry for them. But how do they feel about Whites - especially the ones who don't buy their PR campaign?

The Chinese now have gigantic industrial centers the size of cities - much like Auschwitz was. We can't match this kind of draconian practicality. The answer? Tariffs. What about free trade? Nothing free about it.

The Chinese have tariffs to protect their economy from us. Add to this their currency manipulation, and we have clearly been fighting with both hands tied behind our back. We are clearly outnumbered with both our Goverment and Corporations on the Chinese side against their own people.

Thanks again 8Man for these lonng swaths of comments which I can blithely scroll past. I don't know how I would ever catch up on all I have to read otherwise.

And a tip of the hat to the chink spammers as well, for the same reason.

If enough of us vote for her maybe something will come of it. Who knows.
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How 'bout this. If she pulls 5% of the popular vote I'll eat my hat in Macy's window.

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No, I am near New Brunswick, NJ although I was born and raised in Collingswood, NJ, a town right next to Camden.

...but, to the main point...yes, Camden is a shit hole. Haven't been there in awhile but 100 houses in a row, all abandoned, is totally believable.

Correction: I was born in Camden and raised in Collingswood.

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That's why advanced degrees mean little to me any more. Their holders often believe in superstitious drivel as much as the village idiots.

Well, you got the advanced degrees right, E.

Most Rajneeshees were holders of Masters degrees or Doctorates. (Average age: 37) They weren't kids looking for a daddy figure.

But looking beyond degrees and what they believed, which are seem to demean, look at what they did.

On a ranch consisting of 64,000 acres (126 square miles) of Oregon desert land and very few buildings, within a few years Rajneeshees transformed an overgrazed acreage and devastated watershed into a luscious oasis.

I am witness to how the community’s riparian work to restore and replant the rivers helped the local ecology make a remarkably speedy recovery. This is relevant to JHK's vision of the future. From 1982 to 1985, the plants, animal and water life around Rajneeshpuram dramatically rebounded. 

Over the course of three years, Rajneesh sannyasins created a city that supported at its height 7,000 regular residents with 15,000 annual visitors.

In the course of three years the Rajneeshees accomplished what took Christians in New England hundreds of years. When I was there (1982) people at Rajneeshpuram were eating all locally grown organic, hormone-free, pesticide-free

Rajneeshpuram, Oregon had its own post office, school, fire and police departments, downtown malls and restaurants.  Its state-of-the-art reservoir even won an award for its innovative ecological design. All created by the Rajneeshees in the space of less than five years, in the middle of a remote and arid desert environment.

You may choose to say such people lack "critical thinking skills." I would not make such a claim.

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Commentary this morning is that there was a "surprise" shift in expected alignment within the court body resulting in those expected to rule against doing otherwise and the same with their "opposites".

Well, there you have it: The debate about health care has been a ruse all along, aimed at legitimizing the contention by both of our "two party system" that they represent a polarity of political/economic positions.

(Funny is how completely sidestepped has become any commentary on prospect of a "real national health care program".)

Truth be though, they both are instruments of international finance aimed at dissolving all national sovereignty and borders, putting all erstwhile nations on the same track regardless of difference in histories, heritages and cultures.

Consequently, though America has more favorable ratio of population to resources, Americans will be required to pay higher food prices because of markets for our agriculture product growing in places like Asia where rise in new "wealth" classes are being created by the transnational corporate rulers.

In essence, the world is being fastly driven toward a two class system. That is, no more class of "sovereign citizen" exercising will through representational government, instead only a ruling wealthy controlling the rest of us serving as "niggers" on the global plantation.

Let me make the point more emphatic: The global human population is trampling toward nine billion (I mindfully selected the verb trampling). Concomitant with that explosion will be an explosion in hard luck stories of human desperation which will provide the compelling anecdotes for dissolving national borders to purpose of equalizing population distribution across the globe.

That, of course, will produce indistinguishable polyglot population, none retaining independence of resource or national self determination.

Whatever your belief about how America should change its immigration policies and immigration/refugee ceilings in response to this global population explosion, your "citizen will" in governing national destiny is made irrelevant if our immigration laws are allowed to default to however many foreign nationals choose to ignore our laws by coming here illegally.

I'm a nationalist. American needs to bulwark itself against becoming collateral damage to spread of overpopulation driven by cultural practices and historical circumstances elsewhere.

Most particularly, we need to not allow our favorable resource/population ratio be sacrificed to global profit of transnational corporations.

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But looking beyond degrees and what they believed, which YOU seem to demean, look at what they did.

In the course of three years the Rajneeshees accomplished what took Christians in New England hundreds of years.

When I was there (1982) people at Rajneeshpuram were eating all locally grown organic, hormone-free, pesticide-free vegetables and dairy.

That is something the New England Piggly-Wiggly in a town of 7,000 still cannot offer in 2012.

Commentary this morning is that there was a "surprise" shift in expected alignment within the court body

Cavepainter, there was not "surprise shift"

Obama was a Constitutional law professor and he stated from the beginning that the Supreme Court had no legal grounds against the Affordable Care Act.

What you are bemoaning is that some think the Court did not act in a political activist way against Obama. Instead of being judicial activists, the Justices stuck to the law.

only a ruling wealthy controlling the rest of us serving as "niggers" on the global plantation.

I know it is wrong of me, but I find it hilarious when white folks paint themselves as victims and call themselves niggers. Them white folks gettin' all uppity and self-righteous and angry.

Maybe we should put about 3 million of the angriest ones in prison before they go gettin' violent and committin' crimes ... that way we could even things out a little for what they done to Black folks.

As I say, I know it's wrong to think these things. My laughing makes me "hateful" in the eyes of CFN.

But the idea of folks, the same ones who have had white privilege all their lives, getting all uppity and becoming "angry white folks" is hilarious.

We can teach you some things about adapting to life on the "global plantation," you know, to survive and to get the most out of the experience.

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Soak, you might like this:

http://calearth.org/building-designs/eco-dome.html

"Earth turns to gold in the hands of the wise."

We are thinking about building ourselves a winter shelter in this fashion. Looks like a great alternative to cob or adobe.

I wish GW would go away....
AP News:

On Tuesday 251 new daily high temperature records were set, boosting to 1,015 the number of records set in the past seven days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How 'bout this. If she pulls 5% of the popular vote I'll eat my hat in Macy's window.

In late 2007 and early 2008 you said the same thing about Obama. Do you have a supply of comestible hats?

no one has mentioned reading jhk's new book yet. I just fininshed it on kindle and recieved my hard copy from Battenkill Books.

Can you forward this to yr towns HRC?
If not, post their email and maybe I can!

DO NOT BLAME ME THIS IS ALL FROM THE SAN FRAN EXAMINER:

Update 3:30 p.m.):
Brinkin, who has a longtime partner and a teenage son, retired in 2010 after working for 22 years with the San Francisco Human Rights
Commission

Brinkin retired from the Human Rights Commission in 2010, and has been a beloved member of the gay community, with the Board of Supervisors even declaring the first week of February as "Larry Brinkin Week."
At the time of his retirement, he earned more than $135,000 yearly.
According to the search warrant, SFPD acted after receiving a tip from the Los Angeles Police Department, which obtained from AOL an e-mail exchange between a Los Angeles user and zack3737@aol.com. Police say they linked the AOL address to Brinkin's IP address; he is owner of the account and paid for AOL service with his credit card.

The warrant claims these e-mails contained images of children as young as perhaps a year old being sodomized by and performing oral sex on adult men. Zack3737@aol.com -- whom the police allege is Brinkin -- provided graphic commentary on the photos of interracial adult-child sex.

Comments included "I loved especially the nigger 2 year old getting nailed. Hope you'll continue so I can see what the little blond bitch is going to get. White Power! White Supremacy! White Dick Rules!"

Stockton [never been there] is paying Firemen 160K a year..thats what happened to Stockton.
I hear its a shithole fulla poor folk and criminals.

Tripp, if you can score some scoria in your area, pun intended, the process of filling the earthbags becomes much easier because scoria is lightweight volcanic rock.

Scoria still has the thermal insulative properties and you would still stucco it on the outside, so no one is gonna know you have scoria-filled bags. But I suspect scoria may be a Southwest thing, not a Southeast thing.

Nice photos of your tent house. Felicitaciones!

The beginning or the end?
What of The Left, The Hippy Movement, EST, the Peace Corps ?
EST made it onto the scene 1973? Osho got popular
later than that as I recall.

I went to a huge hotel room near here about 15 years ago to hear one 'MAFU, as Channeled by Penny Torres'. My neighbor was a fan........

Lotsa educated looking, smart looking [appearances
can be deceiving] rich looking white folks..
I walked out fast...Id read about Edgar Cayce but Mafu..the things the sage was saying were aural junk food.
Penny was charging 300$ ? for the weekend..I went to the free Fri nite talk...there might have been 500-700 fools there.

Esther Hicks makes 10 million? a year 'channeling' Abraham!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eyesore of the Week Candidate

"Fallen Star" is an art installation by Korean artist Do Ho Suh on the UC San Diego campus. It's a small powder blue cottage perched at an angle and clinging precariously to the rooftop of the engineering building - what one might imagine had the tornado which carried away Dorothy's house veered off course from Oz to southern California. According to the creator, it challenges our ideas of the familiar and the foreign and draws our attention to our surroundings. I'd say he succeeds on that last point since the engineering building is one of those depressing brutalist designs of gigantic concrete slabs.

As for symbolism, one might liken it to a horrible experiment in architectural cross-breeding, like a toy poodle desparately trying to mate with a greyhound. But a more timely symbol would be the ongoing mortgage default crisis in the state. 700,000 mortgages are 30 days or more in arrears in California and many homeowners are probably experiencing that sickening feeling of teetering over a precipice. Meanwhile, banks in that state are lobbying hard to kill a bill that would limit their ability to practice dual tracking of foreclosures (one arm of the bank negotiates a modified repayment scheme while another arm simutaneously carries out foreclosure proceedings)

And finally, heavily indebted students on campus can look up at the little house for reassurance that folks in government are looking out for their wellbeing when they learn that the National Endowment for the Arts kicked in $90,000 for the exihibit.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/tiny-house-dangles-side-building-article-1.1103183?localLinksEnabled=false

I'm afraid all we have here is clay and granite! Heavy stuff. But then, doesn't it really have to be heavy to be thermal mass? Wouldn't scoria just be another "easy way out"? Just building our little thermal mass fridge has awakened my senses to what "thermally massive" really means. It means "sore back." But it also means "fairly comfortably in summer and winter without mechanical climate control." And that is encouraging in a future where we'll have pleny of muscle and time and not so much money and laziness.

plenty

I hear its a shithole fulla poor folk and criminals.
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Drove through stockton once years ago on a winter day. I swear, I'd accidentally taken LSD or something, ugliest people in the entire world. Shithole is right.

Lotsa educated looking, smart looking [appearances can be deceiving] rich looking white folks.. I walked out fast

I know the feeling, antisoak. I've walked out just as fast in those kinds of situations. LOL!

Drove through stockton once years ago on a winter day. I swear, I'd accidentally taken LSD or something, ugliest people in the entire world. Shithole is right.

dale, wherever I go, I go with a smile on my heart.

I've only been to 17 countries, but wherever I've gone, I have found beautiful people.

Scoria, pumice, perlite, vermiculite or rice hulls are all suitable insulating materials.

You would still need to put a thick earth or lime plaster on the interior to provide thermal mass.

You might also be interested in the new "old" building material hempcrete. The chopped up stalks of industial hemp are mixed with lime and water, then tamped into a removable form. This techniquie is similar to rammed earth but does not require the heavy duty pounding to pack the materiel into the wall forms and produces a breathable wall.
http://nationalcannabiscoalition.com/2012/06/first-hempcrete-building-course-taught-in-the-usa/

Yeah, but I'm not looking for insulating materials. Thermal mass isn't very good insulation, no matter how thick. You want it to function as thermally transmissive, so that the heat of the day arrives in your boudoire in the wee hours of the morning, and the cool of the night arrives after noon.

Got to go. Don't bother with me. Other people will engage.

I declare you the week's winner of "Eyesore of the Week." Love that it was built with NEA funds!
I don't care for any buildings that look as if they might bite the dust in an earthquake, so the blue house on the side of the ugly engineering building really hit a nerve. Frank Gehry buildings also get on my nerves.

On the subject of art, what do you think of LA's new "Levitating Mass?" I'd only like it if the huge boulder landed on Kim Kardashian.

Jen

Cavepainter, thanks for bringing up the Supreme Court ruling. CFNers will benefit in many ways.

If you already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance -- the Affordable Care Act will only make it more secure and more affordable.

Insurance companies can no longer impose lifetime limits on the amount of care you receive.

They can no longer discriminate against children with preexisting conditions.

They can no longer drop your coverage if you get sick.

They can no longer jack up your premiums without reason.

They are required to provide free preventive care like check-ups and mammograms -- a provision that's already helped 54 million Americans with private insurance.

And by this August, nearly 13 million of you will receive a rebate from your insurance company because it spent too much on things like administrative costs and CEO bonuses, and not enough on your health care.

There’s more. Because of the Affordable Care Act, young adults under the age of 26 are able to stay on their parent's health care plans -- a provision that's already helped 6 million young Americans.

And because of the Affordable Care Act, seniors receive a discount on their prescription drugs -- a discount that's already saved more than 5 million seniors on Medicare about $600 each.

All of this is happening because of the Affordable Care Act. These provisions provide common-sense protections for middle class families, and they enjoy broad popular support. And thanks to today’s decision, all of these benefits and protections will continue for Americans who already have health insurance.
Now, if you’re one of the 30 million Americans who don’t yet have health insurance, starting in 2014 this law will offer you an array of quality, affordable, private health insurance plans to choose from. Each state will take the lead in designing their own menu of options, and if states can come up with even better ways of covering more people at the same quality and cost, this law allows them to do that, too. And I’ve asked Congress to help speed up that process, and give states this flexibility in year one.

Once states set up these health insurance marketplaces, known as exchanges, insurance companies will no longer be able to discriminate against any American with a preexisting health condition.

They won’t be able to charge you more just because you’re a woman.

They won’t be able to bill you into bankruptcy.

If you’re sick, you’ll finally have the same chance to get quality, affordable health care as everyone else.

And if you can’t afford the premiums, you'll receive a credit that helps pay for it.

SOURCE: Barack Hussein Obama responding to today's Supreme Court ruling.

Tripp, you should be able to buy cellulose by the bag. Better than fiberglass over a wider range of temps., non-allergenic, and made from recycled material. Installers usually blow it in with a corn starch solution to make it stick, otherwise you would have to put it in from the top.

Tripp, it's no bother. I understand what you are seeking with thermal mass: the fly-wheel effect. But in the woods in north Georgia I doubt you are going to get enough constant sun (assuming you are not in the shade of forest trees), nor are you going to want the humidity transfer (thermal mass breathes, though I understand in North Georgia, especially in the mountains, humidity can be high, but it is not as high as it is in South Georgia).

I am retired, Tripp, and enjoying my retirement with all kinds of projects, both internal and external.

The Spanish word for retirement is: JUBILACION.

The Spanish word for joy is: JUBILO.

Words were never so well related.

I've only been to 17 countries, but wherever I've gone, I have found beautiful people.
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OK then, some are more beautiful than others, and you probably haven't been to Stockton.

Cheap fiberglass panels..6$.
I believe they can also be gotten in Atlanta:

Subject: Owens Corning fiberglass

CWCI Insulation of L.A.
727 S. Ninth Avenue
City of Industry, CA 91745
Phone: 626-369-4424
Fax: 626-330-7771

I was in the LA area last weekend and the "Levitating Mass" was on all the news outlets. I had never heard of it before. I enjoy seeing glacial erratics, huge boulders, etc in Yosemite and other Sierra canyons - but that display doesn't seem to work at all in the middle of Los Angeles. My guess is they'll have to guard it 24/7 to keep the gangbangers from tagging it.

Kim Kardashian is already an "over-the-shoulder-boulder-holder...

MH

They are all Buddhas, dale.

That is what I see in the aisles of Walmart.
Buddha nature is their nature. It shines through.

anti soak, aren't you going to denounce the depravity of Romney's $50,000 a plate dinner with Trump? I know how you hate those expensive meals with celebrities. But you've been strangely silent about it today.

Although the lunch event was rain checked, tonight’s dinner fundraiser at the private residence of Martin Zweig will go on as planned. The dinner — which is reported to have raised millions of dollars and will host more than 50 guests — starts at 6:30 p.m., at Zweig’s residence in the Pierre Hotel, touted as one of the most expensive homes in Manhattan.

Starts in a few minutes. There is still time for you to condemn it, anti soak.

WSP7, aren't you going to denounce the depravity of Romney's $50,000 a plate dinner with Trump? I know how you hate those expensive meals with celebrities. But you've been strangely silent about it today.

Although the lunch event was rain checked, tonight’s dinner fundraiser at the private residence of Martin Zweig will go on as planned. The dinner — which is reported to have raised millions of dollars and will host more than 50 guests — starts at 6:30 p.m., at Zweig’s residence in the Pierre Hotel, touted as one of the most expensive homes in Manhattan.

Starts in a few minutes. There is still time for you to condemn it, WSP7.

I am retired, Tripp, and enjoying my retirement with all kinds of projects, both internal and external.

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LOL!! The only thing I've ever seen you do with your "retirement", Soake, is hang out here at CFN with your interminable posts.

PS - When can i come by to pick up my mattress?

Mrs. Soake

...LA's new "Levitating Mass?"

It reminds me of the trap Arnold Schwartzenegger rigger in the movie "Predator" to squash the nasty alien. Maybe it's a tribute to his governorship of California and similarly failed attempt to squash the flow of those other "aliens" into the state.

They are all Buddhas, dale.

That is what I see in the aisles of Walmart.
Buddha nature is their nature. It shines through.
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Got me there......reminds me a little of that old saying by Will Rogers about how he "never met a man he didn't like" Can't remember who, buy somebody else said Rogers was a damn liar.

Far as Wal-Mart goes, can't say, never go in the place.

Idle youth have much destructive energy.

How right you are! I was heading North on King Road in San Jose CA a few hours ago (around 2pm). I was stopped at a red light along with another car stopped next to me on my right. While the light was still red, 2 cars, driven by youths and coming up from behind, proceeded to blow through the red light between the curb and the car stopped to my right. I don't remember seeing brake lights from either car & they were speeding at close to 40mph.

A similar trick I've seen in San Jose to avoid waiting at a red light is for the driver to do a quick right on red, drive 10 feet, do a quick U-turn (more like a D-turn), turn right again and continue traveling in the original direction.

I agree with most of Cavepainter's post today. But I am not nationalistic like him. If we continue to evolve as a society, countries will indeed disappear. I dislike ALL governments; I don't trust them. Whatever passes for government in the future will be local, or as what was envisioned in the original Articles of Confederation.

I've been angry with Americans since 1968 - they live so stupidly. I may be getting paranoid, but if there's a number of rich, powerful people trying to push the world in a certain direction, as Cavepainter says and I believe, then voting for ANY candidate makes absolutely no difference. What does a protest vote for a 3rd party candidate prove? That a few percent of the US population understand what's going on? Big deal, to TPTB. What happened after Perot got his 19%? Where did the 19% go, what did they accomplish? Having the general public vote is just a ruse, entertainment. Votes ought to be made by those who have a good grasp of reality, not the masses.

On an other area - multiculturism. Does anyone understand that multiculturism causes its own demise? I've been saying on CFN that if the races interbreed, we'll end up with a group of golden people. That's physical, but the same thing applies to society. If all cultures inhabit the same geographic area, ultimately, over time, those cultures will adapt to a new mean such that one, new culture will emerge. If you artificially keep different cultures separate, then those cultures remain extant and each tend to remain the same. It's the mixing of cultures that has allowed societies to evolve. Apparently, many here fear change, when actually they ought to embrace it.

I'm not a globalist. I don't want a one-world government or a one-world power base. But I do believe in a global society - there's a big difference.

I'm also not a liberal, contrary to what some CFNers think. I don't believe in distributing wealth. What I do believe in, however, is fairness, in everyone getting a fair chance to achieve. I believe immigration should be carefully managed according to what the environment can handle. I wouldn't stop immigration, but I would first determine the carrying capacity of our continent, and act accordingly to insure it isn't surpassed - if it hasn't already.

J.P. Morgan debacle grows and grows.
I'm working on site these days and NPR is going all day.
Well aside from the Healthcare bill which did surprise me, I heard something that I really just had to laugh about.

J.P Morgan originally lost $800 Million, a mere trifle, folks No problemo.
Then they said $2 billion, then 3, then 5.
Today the count is $9 Billion! It keeps going and going....

The Affordable Care Act builds on Obama's efforts to combat fraud and abuse. These efforts are saving billions of dollars in money that was being stolen from people with Medicare.

And thanks to these efforts and other improvements, the life of the Medicare Trust fund has been extended.

Your Medicare coverage is protected. Under the new health care law, your existing Medicare-covered benefits won’t be reduced or taken away. As always, you will be able to choose your own doctors.

They are required to provide free preventive care like check-ups and mammograms.

There is no such thing as a free lunch & you don't get something for nothing. Aetna, my private insurance carrier, has jacked up my rates about 25% since the ACA passed. They justified the increases by stating that they have to pay more for preventive care without the medical clinics charging for co-pays or against my yearly deductible.

Pay your carbon tax to the Bank of International Settlements. Save the earth. Meanwhile, American's have "free health care" while the country already borrows $150 million plus per hour 24/7. According to a poll I saw on mass media people think Obama is better suited to handle and alien invasion than Romney. I think the body snatchers have already done the job on the people of the land of the tax slave.

Asoka,

There's a book I read that you might enjoy, "Eat, Pray, Shoot Me."

(just kidding) Jen

Romney on today's Supreme Court decision:

Obamacare was bad policy yesterday, it's bad policy today.

It will be interesting to see Romney defend this, since Obamacare and Romneycare are identical.

Friends woring in Massachusetts tell me they like Romneycare that Romney instituted in Massachusetts, so I suspect people will also like Obamacare once it starts completely in 2014.

Aetna, my private insurance carrier, has jacked up my rates about 25% since the ACA passed.

Yes, that is why Obama's ACA is so important. It stops Aetna from continuing to jack up prices at will. By jacking your rates before today's decision, Aetna is showing what they can do without ACA.

After today's SCOTUS decision Aetna and all the other private carriers know their days of jacking up prices are over.

Thank Obama for that protection from future price gouging. Before ACA you had no protection.

If the government is so concerned over your well being and "health". Why do they allow GMO foods? As I recall King Obama "promised" labels. Both sides are corporate owned. The insurance companies are owned by the central banks who own Obama and Romney.

Asoka, glad to see you are still doing the 'good work' here, you Contrarian you.

You know, one of the ACA issues that does concern expats is if we will be required to have US insurance or not, even tho we may be covered by insurance in the country we are living in. For ex, I have CAJA here in Costa Rica for about $50 a month. But will I be forced to pay hundreds or thousand of dollars a year to some US insurance scam company for insurance I will probably never use?

This is a very important issue that is addressed very cryptically in the ACA law. It will affect you when you move to S.A. too.

Good luck, Dee
Over & Out until the next Kunstler Post.

Cosmictraveler, get your head on straight. You cannot continue to say there is no difference between the Republicans and Democrats.

Recently 55 lawmakers sent a letter to FDA demanding GMO foods be labeled as such. How many Republicans do you think signed on to that letter? Zero.

The lawmakers wrote, “We urge you to fully review the facts, law, and science, and side with the American public by requiring the labeling of genetically engineered foods as is done in nearly 50 countries throughout the world. FDA has a clear opportunity to protect a consumer’s right to know, the freedom to choose what we feed our families, and the integrity of our free and open markets with this petition.”

In addition to Senator Boxer and Congressman DeFazio, the letter was signed by Senators Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Bernie Sanders (D-VT), Daniel Akaka (D-HI), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Ron Wyden (D-OR), Mark Begich (D-AK), Jon Tester (D-MT), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Jeff Merkley (D-OR), and Representatives Richard Hanna (R-NY), Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), George Miller (D-CA), Louise Slaughter (D-NY), Keith Ellison (D-MN), Raul Grijalva (D-AZ), Peter Welch (D-VT), Hansen Clarke (D-MI), Earl Blumenauer (D-OR), Lloyd Doggett (D-TX), Anna Eshoo (D-CA), Sam Farr (D-CA), Maurice Hinchey (D-NY), Rush Holt (D-NJ), Chellie Pingree (D-ME), Jim McDermott (D-WA), Madeleine Bordallo (D-GU), James Moran (D-VA), John Olver (D-MA), Jared Polis (D-CO), Charles Rangel (D-NY), Suzanne Bonamici (D-OR), Pete Stark (D-CA), Howard Berman (D-CA), Robert Brady (D-PA), David Cicilline (D-RI), Yvette Clarke (D-NY), Steve Cohen (D-TN), Diana DeGette (D-CO), Bob Filner (D-CA), Barney Frank (D-NY), Luis Gutierrez (D-IL), Janice Hahn (D-CA), Michael Honda (D-CA), Barbara Lee (D-CA), Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), James McGovern (D-MA), Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), Jackie Speier (D-CA), John Tierney (D-MA), Mel Watt (D-NC), Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), Maxine Waters (D-CA), and Grace Napolitano (D-CA).

that way we could even things out a little for what they done to Black folks.
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did ;o)

Dee, I share your concern, but I don't think it's going to be a problem. I also have single payer universal health care coverage through the government in South America, and I also pay about US$50 a month (it is an obligation for retirees).

Since the SCOTUS ruled the "penalty" is not a "penalty," but a tax, it will be collected through the IRS.

The IRS can’t collect this tax without the expat’s help. If the expat doesn’t pay voluntarily, or have a refund against which to apply it, the IRS can’t use its collection tools — levies, seizures and so on, to collect it.

All you have to do is make sure to never have an overpayment on your 1040. If you have no refund coming, the IRS cannot collect the tax. Should be easy enough to do.

In my case since my entire income is about US$12,000 a year and I never owe any tax anyway. I like it like that since I don't want to support the military adventures of the USA, and I suspect the empire has bigger fish to fry than Asoka.

done did

:)

In late 2007 and early 2008 you said the same thing about Obama.
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Completely untrue. First of all I only stumbled upon CFN in the summer of 2009.

Before Obama had even secured the Dem party nod it was looking very much like Hillary would be the candidate. I saw a picture of Obama in the paper surrounded by adoring women. I knew instantly he would be the Democrat candidate and beat McCain. I emailed my brother in Florida and told him this. I believe this was in Feb 2008.

For the same reason I have said several times recently that he will win a second term.

Is lying your new shtick?

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They can no longer jack up your premiums without reason...

...such as being a member of the human race and still capable of fogging a mirror.

And if you can’t afford the premiums, you'll receive a credit...

...shifting the burden of payment on to someone else. I think they call it socializing the burden.


The Spanish word for retirement is: JUBILACION.

The Spanish word for joy is: JUBILO.
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and the Spanish word for inconsistent is: INCONSISTENTE

I went back to the 2007 and 2008 archives to show you where you said that... but, alas, luckily for you the comments have been erased from those years.

...shifting the burden of payment on to someone else. I think they call it socializing the burden.

Yes, socialism. Good. That is the way it works for the veterans through the VA. The veterans don't pay for their own medical care after they go off to war and get themselves disabled for life. We all pay for it. Socialism. Good.

Sí!

No!

Quizas!

RICK SANTELLI OF THE TEA PARTY

"Was this my preference? I will be honest with the world. My preference was I didn’t think it would pass.... I was wrong," Santelli said on Thursday. "I'm still very happy at this point. Because I am a big believer in process, pragmatic process, as laid out in the Constitution."

Ron Paul folks are also big on the Constitution, as are the Oathkeepers. They all ought to be saying to respect the process and accept the decision.

Dee, if you opt out and choose not to buy insurance, you're supposed to pay a fine to the IRS. But Congress neglected to give the IRS the power to actually collect that fine.

In other words, if you refuse to pay, the IRS can't file a lien or bring criminal charges against you for the money, not the way the law stands today. There's not a word in the 2,700-page law that says they can actually force you to pay.

But, what CAN they do? Leave a "comment" somewhere that makes it very clear that You Owe Them. Depending on how fragile your existence is, most lazy PC Jockeys will look no further. Into the Bit Bucket you go.

Subtlety, Assoka, subtlety. Another concept that most likely, eludes you. Especially in a forum where we MUST pay attention.

tonight’s dinner fundraiser at the private residence of Martin Zweig will go on as planned.
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It's been ages since I've seen Marty Zweig. He used to appear frequently on Wall Street Week with Louis Rukeyser. My most vivid memory of him was the show on Friday evening 10/16/87. The market had just suffered its worst week ever losing more than 200 points and that very day had lost 108 points which was mind boggling since the DOW was only around 2300.

Lou R. asked Marty what he thought was going to happen when trading resumed on Monday. Marty said he had been thinking of the word "crash" but had been reluctant to say it since it might be equivalent to yelling fire in a crowded theater.

Monday morning I was on pins and needles especially because I had to hop a morning flight to LA on a biz trip and would be out of touch with what was happening.

I went up front and asked a stewardess (don't know if their title had been changed to Flight Attendant yet due to political correctness) in the galley if the crew had any contact via radio or TV with the ground. She suspiciously asked "why" and I said I was dying to find out what was happening on the stock market.

She was obviously clueless about the market and looked at me like I was nuts. I suffered in silence till we landed then dashed to the car rental. I jumped in a car, snapped on the radio and the news on every station told of a market in free-fall. I drove north to the company in Simi Valley where I would be performing a proposal audit and when I arrived all my financial opposite numbers were in a dither just like me.

I stayed up all night watching the non-stop news of Black Monday, the crash on Oct 19, 1987. The DOW had fallen 508 points from 2200 to 1700 (round numbers) which was by far the largest one day % drop ever or since. Far worse even than 1929. And Marty Zweig called it.

OK, Dee, I did some more digging. If you live in Costa Rica at least 330 days of the year, you are excluded from the requirement to maintain "Minimum Essential Coverage" and will have no penalty or tax assessed ...

Here is the law:

Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act by United States Congress
Title I - Quality, Affordable Health Care for All Americans
Subtitle F - Shared Responsibility for Health Care
Part I - Individual Responsibility

CHAPTER 48--MAINTENANCE OF MINIMUM ESSENTIAL COVERAGE
`(4) INDIVIDUALS RESIDING OUTSIDE UNITED STATES OR RESIDENTS OF TERRITORIES- Any applicable individual shall be treated as having minimum essential coverage for any month--
`(A) if such month occurs during any period described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of section 911(d)(1) which is applicable to the individual

USC › Title 26 › Subtitle A › Chapter 1 › Subchapter N › Part III › Subpart B › § 911

26 USC § 911 - Citizens or residents of the United States living abroad
Section 911
(d) Definitions and special rules
For purposes of this section—
(1) Qualified individual
The term “qualified individual” means an individual whose tax home is in a foreign country and who is—
(A) a citizen of the United States and establishes to the satisfaction of the Secretary that he has been a bona fide resident of a foreign country or countries for an uninterrupted period which includes an entire taxable year, or
(B) a citizen or resident of the United States and who, during any period of 12 consecutive months, is present in a foreign country or countries during at least 330 full days in such period.

Nope, no comment, no "owing them," no bit bucket, no subtlety.

Expats who reside outside the USA are excluded from the Minimum Essential Coverage requirement of ACA if they meet the requirements of 26 USC § 911 - Citizens or residents of the United States living abroad.

Nothing subtle about it. It's in black and white. It's da law!

See my post of June 28, 2012 11:08 PM

OK, Dee, I did some more digging.
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Only a socialist could smile after reading code like this or IRS Tax Code.

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  远看身材,近看脸蛋。脸蛋对女性朋友们讲是很重要的,脸上长斑,会将形象和信心大打折扣。夏季是祛斑的好季节,因为这时皮肤分泌比较旺盛,人们的新生代谢也会加快,所以这个时候要是选对了祛斑的方法,效果是较好的。

  爱美女性朋友们要是选错了方法,不仅毫无效果,反而会惹来不必要的麻烦,色斑可能还会因此而变得更加严重。福州市第一医院医学整形专家詹华辉介绍说,很多女性朋友之所以祛斑不理想,很多一部分原因是因为盲目祛斑。例如,斑点的治疗要根据不同的皮肤的类型进行的,如果现在市面上出现一个效果较好的祛斑霜,未必是每个人买来都可以用的;很多女性朋友们在长斑的初期,随意使用各种化妆品,各种祛斑产品,祛斑方法的不合理导致问题愈发的严重,所以祛斑的方法显得尤为重要。

  女人,早点让自己“下班”

  祛斑,你选对方法了吗?

  福州市的林女士与丈夫结婚了三年,还生了一个可爱的小宝宝,在这三年的时间内,她没有在意自己脸部出现的问题,某一天,突然发现自己脸部长了很多斑点。像上面福州市第一医院医学整形美容专家介绍的那样,她也是存在着祛斑的各个误区。斑点没有丝毫的退化,反而更加严重。

  在福州市第一医院医学整形美容的网站上,林女士看见了福州市第一医院医学整形美容独家引进了一台世界顶级的美肤祛斑设备-M22王者之心,通过在线咨询对这款祛斑产品有了一定的了解后便来到福州市第一医院医学整形美容,经过一个疗程的治疗,她脸上的斑点明显淡化了,效果很显著。所以祛斑,不是不可,而是关键看你选对方法了没有。选择福州市第一医院医学整形美容的M22王者之心祛斑,效果显著,是你祛斑不二的选择。

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  据相关调查数据显示,M22王者之心目前在世界上不超过十台,而其中的一台M22王者之心落户福州市第一医院医学整形美容。M22王者之心作为王者风范的升级版OPT,采用的是第四代脉冲技术,综合了激光360°美肤、红宝石激光及祛斑王三项医学祛斑科技优势,祛斑疗效显著。M22王者之心是专门是针对东方人皮肤研制的最新科技美肤设备,能有效地抑制黑色素的形成,有效地击退雀斑、老年斑、咖啡斑、黄褐斑等见的斑种,在祛斑的同时还可让肌肤变得更加有弹性。

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Only a socialist could smile after reading code like this or IRS Tax Code.

Q., I have never had an accountant in my life.

I have never had an attorney in my life.

I have never had a tax preparer in my life.

If you know how to read, and you know how to research, you should be able to do things by yourself, and smile while doing it.

It pays (in big ways) to live a simple life.

"7,562,000 ... China, Russia, and Syria

2,927,754 ... USA

You want to compare Nukes? USA still comes out behind."

That's WW3 you're talking about. WW4 will be the final world war:

the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand...by these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

So how's that Obamacare thing working out for ya?

Of course, "Dee" has an officer of the court who will do this "gratis". No? Thank GOD for VISA.

So how's that Obamacare thing working out for ya?

Affordable health care during and after the apocalypse is covered in subsection 666.

The veterans don't pay for their own medical care after they go off to war and get themselves blown up by IED's and disabled for life. We all pay for their prosthetics, their physical therapy, and their life-long disability checks. You are in favor of socializing the burden of the veterans' health care, right, Q.?

Ozone, more cognitive dissonance:

I'm reading JHKs new book, the part where he talks about the energy situation (which is bad). Thru an open widow I can hear heavy equipment from the construction of a new CVS Pharmacy 'Superstore' down on US10. The TV is on, local news. I hear the broadcaster say that ground has been broken on a 1 billion dollar shopping center in Rocky Hill, CT, stores, theaters, resturants etc., all the familiar bullshit. Then I went back reading 'Too Much Magic?

--WSP7

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Ya gotta love the Civics War...

The Civics war is in high dudgeon as Romney vows to undo the healthcare model that he developed.

Only in the most distorted theater can this be happening and those who want to vote for him don't seem to see how odd this really is. He can't even stand up for his own healthcare model!--oh yeah I know he doesn't like the Fed spending on it, but he doesn't stand up for the basic principles and let's say he says it should be funded by the states.

As I said earlier this week it's a total irony that the Democrats are going to fight for their Republican healthcare act.--It's all warped out, but who's surprised?

One more thing. Someone called O. the king, but you know he left the whole crafting of this critter to congress.

Someone else complained about the GMO labeling. So this thing goes through congress and it's the Republicans that vote against it.
Two things,

1) Obama needs Congress to pass the GMO labeling. He can't just "decree" it. He can't win first he's the king, but in reality he's not, so don't complain that he didn't get GMO labeling done.

2) For those Republican Market freaks, doesn't the free market exist for the consumer or is it only for the transnational monopolies who want no regulations?-- meaning they can put pink slime in your food or asbestos in your cereal, cuz it's cheap. You are not to know what you're eating..its better that way.

Now line up for your doctor when you get a mystery disease. Hope you can afford it!

”But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.

Then abolish this law without delay, for it is not only an evil itself, but also it is a fertile source for further evils because it invites reprisals. If such a law — which may be an isolated case — is not abolished immediately, it will spread, multiply, and develop into a system.

The person who profits from this law will complain bitterly, defending his acquired rights. He will claim that the state is obligated to protect and encourage his particular industry; that this procedure enriches the state because the protected industry is thus able to spend more and to pay higher wages to the poor workingmen.

Do not listen to this sophistry by vested interests. The acceptance of these arguments will build legal plunder into a whole system. In fact, this has already occurred. The present-day delusion is an attempt to enrich everyone at the expense of everyone else; to make plunder universal under the pretense of organizing it”

~ The Law, Frederic Bastiat

Truly amazing, ain't it?
I guess more places to buy crap is what 'Murka needs to "promote growth".

When it chokes us all we'll stand up and holler/whimper, "Who could have seen this coming?! Why weren't we told this was a waste of valuable resources?!"

I don't believe in distributing wealth. What I do believe in, however, is fairness, in everyone getting a fair chance to achieve.
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OK, but if there are only enough jobs for 25 percent of the people, is giving everyone a "fair chance" fair?

This may not restore your faith in humanity, but it might bring a smile to your face or a tear to your eye.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/pictures-that-will-restore-your-faith-in-humanity?source=Patrick.net

Color me unsurprised that the SCOTUS approved mandatory purchase of a "health plan" from the megalith known as the insurance bid'ness.

You are now OBLIGED to hand over funds to these grasping assholes by overt coersion [by dint of fine], no matter your income stratification. "Da peeple" should start wondering why these corporations never lose, but.........

okay Q, maybe you will be eating a hat in Macy's window. Be sure to video the event and make it available here. Good of you to offer, BTW.:)

Dat's right; there are good folks out there/here.
Thanks for the link.

OK, Dee, I did some more digging. If you live in Costa Rica at least 330 days of the year, you are excluded from the requirement to maintain "Minimum Essential Coverage" and will have no penalty or tax assessed ...


Just claim religious exemption, and get the associated certificate from your respective pastor/whatever.

peace peaceniks

On Dec. 1, 2011 Eleuthero said, with great urgency, using capital letters for emphasis:

Y'all here on CFN may have noticed that I can disappear for WEEKS at a time but I've gotten more active in the last few days. It's because IT IS CRUNCH TIME and once again, your government is showing that it cares about its crony's failing Eurobank investments while it is jackbooting YOU. If you can't give a shit now, then WHEN?

On June 29, 2012:

The Dow Jones industrial average rose 211 points to 12,813 as of 10:45 a.m. EDT.

The Standard & Poor's 500 index rose 25 points to 1,353. The gains were extraordinarily broad. Only nine of the 500 stocks in the S&P fell.

The Nasdaq composite average gained 63 points to 2,912.

Why? Because we were in "CRUNCH TIME" in Dec. 2011, according to E. and E. put "IT IS CRUNCH TIME" in all caps to scream it at us.

Yet today the markets are all happy. Why? Because the Eurozone found a short term plan and a long term solution for their debt.

Woe to doomsters like E. who scream "IT IS CRUNCH TIME" in capital letters ("the Eurozone is falling! the Eurozone is falling!), only to find that seven months later things are rosy and markets are happy ... because of Eurozone health.

FORMATTING CORRECTION

We were in "CRUNCH TIME" in Dec. 2011, according to E. and E. put "IT IS CRUNCH TIME" in all caps to scream it at us.

Yet today the markets are all happy. Why? Because the Eurozone found a short term plan and a long term solution for their debt.

We are not so fucked after all. Sorry, doomsters.

Jill is kind of cute, albeit in a very mousy kind of way. I could fuck her. And also she knows Wage - they had lunch together a few months ago. Hopefully I can finagle an introduction out her - for "political reasons" of course.

You dislike Goverment (so you say) therefore let's have an all powerful Global One. Ok, as long as the bylaws forbid any Jew from ever being President of that body or exceeding .03% or whatever percentage the Jews are of the World Population.

As Plato said, the only people worthy to govern are those who have no desire to. Jews are just too much into it to be trusted. Also we must respect democracy, eh Beans?

And of course, We the People of the World, the Golden Ones, will be watching to assure that the complexion of Jews becomes golden as well. You don't have a problem with that I trust?

Yet today the markets are all happy. Why? Because the Eurozone found a short term plan and a long term solution for their debt.
We are not so fucked after all. Sorry, doomsters.


I love gold. That said, the use of paper money and the electronicization of wealth creation - via simple electron 'printing' of dollars, euros et al - and the instantaneous coordination of monetary policy between countries mean that debt crises of the past cannot occur in today's world & going forward.

Things have changed, folks. We now literally have the ability to conjure wealth from thin air, i.e. print and distribute money to where it's needed to get humans to interact in a desirous fashion, i.e. to avoid Depression-like repercussions.

I hated Bernanke. Now I see the necessity of having him.

It's a brave new world, but it's still better than the old one.

I'm with asoka, doomsters have lost out big time.

peace peaceniks

I miss Louis Rukeyser. I remember him interviewing Martin Zweig from time to time. Rukeyser was a punny guy.

It's fair if everyone has an equal shot at the 25% worth of jobs. The question to be asked is what has happened in our society that only 25% can work? It's not the government's job to provide people work or give them money because they have no financial resources. Of course, in reality, the government is responsible for the mess it has made itself. That's another issue. If a surgeon has screwed up badly, do you use the same surgeon to repair the damage he/she made?

"They all ought to be saying to respect the process and accept the decision."

The American version of Nicolaitanism.

I wonder how it's possible for you to so misconstrue what I said. I don't want a one-world government.

I surely woudn't mind if all the Jews in the world were golden. Color is of no importance to me. Oh, you mean would I like Jews breeding with non-Jews? Honestly, I don't care either way. Love transcends all religions and cultures.

And not only do you misconstrue what I say, you also misconstrue what I am - you have a totally incorrect idea of my character. I think hate has blinded you from reality. But that's your problem.

"...to avoid Depression-like repercussions."

Conjuring money is not the same as conjuring wealth. It only seems this way for those who get first use. The top sucks from the bottom.

http://adask.wordpress.com/2012/06/25/golds-return/

It's not the government's job to provide people work or give them money because they have no financial resources.

An argument can me made that the government has a Constitutional duty (Article I, Section 8) to "provide for the general welfare." That means government can, if it chooses, provide money for jobs related to education, health, research, development, etc. that is of benefit to all of society.

The government can directly fund and create jobs (instead of giving contracts to private corporations). For example, we are still benefiting from infrastructure built by large government jobs projects like TVA, CCC, WPA, etc. from the time of FDR's New Deal.

When someone is disabled, and I have mentioned mangled veterans recently as an example, government does have a duty to provide for their welfare, even if that means giving them money outright for the rest of their lives.

Likewise government pays for courts, judges, and prisons go protect society from deranged yahoos.

I could, but I won't, go on and on about the great things BIG GOVERNMENT does to provide for the general welfare of everyone.

Aspen being smoked… Spooky!
I am developing an antidote trying to medicate the nausea caused by all the bad news from all around: It’s Holigent Reconstruct America. The hurdle is that it needs big $ to get it going. It could set a lot of things right… we are working on it intensely. Welcome to look www.holigent.org

"Only a socialist could smile after reading code like this or IRS Tax Code."

A socialist? Really? How about a liar, er, I mean a LAWYER.

but not a socialist.

You need a real life Kyoo, not this pseudo 1/2 life you are living here.

Come and visit me or Wells. Better yet, visit wells, he can take you down to Ipamema beach, of the song & thong fame. You might become just a little bit less nit-picky....
Latin women fill out a thong quite nicely, ya know
?

;)

Conjuring money is not the same as conjuring wealth. It only seems this way for those who get first use. The top sucks from the bottom.


I think we're both partially correct. To the first-divs folks it's wealth, as it magnifies their in-come tremendously.

The vassals at least have bread from the paper tickets that course through the economy.


peace peaceniks

Only a socialist could smile after reading code like this or IRS Tax Code."


There are a slew of fairly straightforward ways to cut/eliminate your income and other taxes - but 98% of folks is too lazy to make the effort.

The following are extremely simple and allowable.

1. Start sole proprietorship - cost can be $0.
2. Write off cost of home office, car mileage, food, utilities against income tax.
3. Pay your children (but don't let them keep the money). This alone can save you $5,000 a year in taxes.
4. Donate to charity - only works if you itemize.

These 3-4 methods will save you enough per year to allow you to take a vacation on the house.

peace peaceniks

1....someone here was talking 'cheap insulation',
for TT house, I think

2...I post info on cheap insulation

3...Asoka posts this Insane response:

asoka.. replied to comment from anti soak | June 28, 2012 6:36 PM | Reply

anti soak, aren't you going to denounce the depravity of Romney's $50,000 a plate dinner with Trump? I know how you hate those expensive meals with celebrities. But you've been strangely silent about it today.

Although the lunch event was rain checked, tonight’s dinner fundraiser at the private residence of Martin Zweig will go on as planned. The dinner — which is reported to have raised millions of dollars and will host more than 50 guests — starts at 6:30 p.m., at Zweig’s residence in the Pierre Hotel, touted as one of the most expensive homes in Manhattan.
Starts in a few minutes. There is still time for you to condemn it, anti soak.

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"I think we're both partially correct."

Hot nardly. The happy talk is way, way premature.

Theft should not be glorified no matter who benefits from it. Theft by inflation, due to our lack of political memory, imbibed ignorance of economics and ongoing propoganda, will not be appreciated by most until its too late.

Frederic Bastiat is vindicated.

Here is something for you to read"

6 Cities That Will Pay You To Live There

( http://www.thepennyhoarder.com/2012/03/6-cities-that-will-pay-you-to-live-there )

Good luck!

Dee

"The happy talk is way, way premature."

http://www.bostonfed.org/education/pubs/wishes.htm

One Shot - Part Two

One way to understand the Information Relationship, the non extension or existence of Space or Time or the outside world is to see what happens when you are under pain, just a very local, small part of the body in pain, hard pain and everything else disappears, nothing is important or counts anymore, there is no world or universe or global, only that little localized pain that is absorbing all of your attention (but we are condemned to use logic to avoid or try to find out a way to escape pain, but often better to not even know you are in pain like animals, etc.). That shows how really small and little and insignificant the Universe really is, that is the bottom line, that is the real "Elementary Particle" of physics.

SO we really only have local, localized, fleeting events, nothing General, no Global, no Common Good, or Rule of the Law, etc. just random events that occur just because, for no reason at all (and even if there are reasons, and you can know all the reasons of the world but you can't control or predict anything in the long run (and often also in the short run), all knowledge and general knowledge is worth zero anyways, is irrelevant) and the best reason and explanation for anything at all, the truest and most honest Science is that that always replies for anything that occurs or any process or whatever: No Reason At All, Just Because.

Funny how the general good and common good is used as a superstructure in the psychology of Man to repress his instincts, as in psychoanalysis, and Freud, etc. a control system...

Just like the programmer that has to fix complex systems, his boss tells him to do it fast (it is always an emergency, but there is a hidden agenda for making everything appear as an emergency, you are sure things will just get worst and worst which is the real reason everything must always be done right away (doing it fast you are sure to make more mistakes, aside from the show of "Hard Work"), the deadline, to create more money flows, more problems needing more contracts, etc.), really fast knowing that the faster you try to fix a bug the more bugs you introduce, but that is the real goal, solve one problem to produce 10 problems down the line, so more cash to fix 10 new problems, and fix 10 new problems to create 100 new problems down the line, so ever more cash, the worst you fix it the better, the real goal is the cash, there is no general or common good here, only someone gaining cash and someone losing cash behind all of the make believe and all of the hot air and excuses and large scale fake common good everyone talks about. But the boss is 100 % correct, only the local gain and event counts, only the local gain of any random person counts as opposed to some general good, only naive babies believe in the general good or common good, the boss just wants to increase the bottom line, cash baby cash, all the rest is irrelevant. And simlar examples can be found in many other sectors and jobs and corporations, situations etc. not only Software, etc..

Especially since it is always a simple Man Brain judging and evaluating and perceiving and assigning the value of anything arbitrarily without any real absolute reference system aside from his radnom free will and random taste and desires and pleasures, and in fact the pleasure of one Man Brain as opposed to the pain of a billion Man Brains is perfectly ok, in the end it is always a useless, insignificant contraption that is gaining or losing, there is no General World, or Common World, or Common Goal, or Common Good, only instantaneous fights between opposing will powers both of which are useless and meaningless and valueless and arbitrary, etc.

When you realize how totally arbitrary everything is since it is all based on some turd, any random turd in the end (all Man Brains are turds and always wrong), you finally see how worthless all choices and decisions and paths really are: just the one shot event exists, nothing at all, the one shot fight and winner or loser and so forth, a one transistor circuit nothing deeper or better.

There are occasions when the common goal and good is achieved like in wars, like in the USA Space Program of putting a Man on the Moon, etc. And we could achieve a huge amount of results, common goals if it really were desired and wanted, if Odumbo said that by 2020 the USA would put a Man on Mars, it could easily be done, just like any goal can easily be done, we have everything to do anything at all, we have millions of technicians wasting time in idiotic technical gadgets like the IPAD and idiotic political games in the offices, millions of idle workers worldwide, millions of hours wasted over millions of worthless procedures and documents and rules of the game all designed to repress the huge productive capacity and excess capacity a modern Technological Economy has.

But it could be done: Free Salaries, Cheap Rents and Huge Public Private Projects building Trillions of Skyscrapers, Trillions of Rockets to Mars, Trillions of High Speed Trains across the globe, Split the Sun grab all of its energy, etc.

THE APESTAR, THE EIGHTH MEN


6 cities that will pay you to live there....with Detroit at the top of the list. How did I know that would be ranked number#1 without even clicking on the link? Also, google most bed bug infested city and Detroit, Asoka's dream vacation paradise, makes the top of the list. As promised, here is a facebook link I set up to document the collapse/deindustrialization of america, the headlong slam into the second great depression from which we will never emerge. Pictures from the first depression mixed with present day images, many of them from Detroit. Check it out http://www.facebook.com/?react=AQAxaMplwuB5GLRA#!/media/set/?set=a.107023769368707.12238.100001832545920&type=3

THE APESTAR, THE EIGHTH MEN

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I would be so bold as to surmise it's only one of a plethora of 'em! ;o)

Pay you to live there! But do they include free burial insurance?
Why isnt Pontiac at the top of the list?

The following are extremely simple and allowable.
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I'm beginning to understand why you had to flee the US to Brazil for tax reasons. You seem to be rather naive.

I am very familiar with Schedule C. My wife operated a sole proprietorship for 16 years and I did the tax returns.

You make it sound like all you need to do is dream up some phony business and start recording all those juicy expenses so you will end the year with a loss. What about the income? You're going to need to show some bank deposits of sales receipts. And declaring your home as your place of business and writing off a portion of the space, utilities, etc requires extensive record keeping not to mention being a red flag to the IRS, inducing audits.

Same thing with travel expense, and car mileage that requires an extensive log. Business meals require receipts, a record of who you were dining with and the purpose. And only a percentage of the meal cost is allowable.

If you pay your kids as though they are employees that's a whole 'nother nightmare of paperwork related to Social Security where you would be paying double: the employees portion and the business owners portion. And then don't forget that your kids now have to include that (phony) income on THEIR tax return and pay tax on it.

Now, despite the great difficulties of creating this mini-Madoff falsehood let's say you show a loss every year for 10 years and now you're turning 65 or 66 and you want to retire and start collecting SS. Well, the amount you collect is based on what you paid in. You would have paid in zero for 10 years and may discover that the amount of SS you receive is much less than you had assumed it would be. It is even possible that you could lose ALL SS benefits.

Weaving a web of lies, as you seem to be suggesting, is not as simple as you think. But I guess you actually DO know that since you had to fly the coop for Brazil.

Your "extremely simple" scheme sounds like the stuff my brother-in-law believes.

Oh, I highly recommend that Kyoo amble on down Ipanema or Copacabana after the sun goes down to enjoy the refreshing night air!
Boa Sorte, my friend, boa sorte!

...And don't forget to take along your wallet, passport, watch, and any jewelry you might happen to have laying around. (Just to impress the friendly locals, mind you.)

Kyoo!
Dat's a joke, Son; don' do eet!
;o)

I take bed bugs very seriously when I travel. Before I book a room, I check the Bed Bug Registry to see if they've had any problems.

Shockingly, Moab, Utah has about 4 motels with bed bugs!! We stayed in Moab for a couple of nights at a Best Western that wasn't listed on the sight and also passed my test (I do a brief inspection before I bring my luggage into the room.)

Dis is one Joo who won' be takin' his elry down dere! Not unless I poipatrate a insurance scam. :)

BTW, I have a native Brazilian client moving back home in March, and I've started pumping him for info about the country. If I were ever to move there, I could always call him for advice.

Do things change overnight?
Yes they do.
Can one person make a difference?
Yes.
What is the most radical thing that ever happened?
You got up in the morning to a new day.

Ah,
A timely missive from Dr. Phil R. and a heapin' helpin' of food for thought, strewn before the lumbering [though actually starvling] lummoxen:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31725.htm

Good night nurse.....

In other words, Brazil is built on sand just like the U.S? And what about the Rainforest? We need that for oxygen. Does Brazil Inc plan to keep cutting that down?

If so, I'm sorry - I thought you were smarter. If you are sincere, you are the most hopless utopian dreamer on this blog. If Nations are dissolved as they are being then something needs to replace them or there will be chaos. Man is simply not good enough for the state of noble savagery. I think it was Madison who said that that's why they were creating a Constitution to begin. Certainly Trad Judaism agrees with much talk of the evil impulse, etc.

North America and Europe aren't dissolving naturally but by a vast and evil conpiracy by the Elite who want all power. Shit, I thought you at least got that much.

They don't spread disease like so many bugs. It's mostly just an annoyance on the physical level. But on the psychic....! You are unconsciously imagining that you are as small as they are and thus the horror assumes cosmic proportions.

To allow yourself to be bitten a bit would be true tapasya, a fine spiritual practice.

Good article about the JUBILEE - Obamacare for Blacks. Some vets weigh in on why they refuse to use veteran hospitals - they're full of Black Nurses: incompetent, rude, and angels of death.

Ah, Vlad, it's not what I believe or not believe, it's stepping out of our day-to-day lives for a moment and looking at the mega-trends. And the mega-trends plainly indicate that the advance of technology has shrunk the human world to the point we are, in effect, all neighbors; and there will be some degree of merging of cultures. There has to be, when everyone is "next" to everyone else.

Me naively utopian? Hardly. Many scenarios exist as to what the future may bring, even though the trend is as I just stated. A lot of powerful interests will resist change, to the extent that MAYBE we will not survive the future.

Under these conditions, one can only adopt an attitude - either positive or negative. I happen to choose optimism, that's just me.

Your belief in mankind's inability to move forward on its own is why governments exist in the first place: If you take away government, there will be chaos because people can't live their lives without some external force telling them what to do.

I say, give people the chance to direct their own lives, while not interfering in others'. If we can't advance under that condition, we aren't going to survive at all. Of course, this is all anathema to you.

(Dear me, I must apologize for not including the requisite "byte" of an article to replace the lack of Ritalin kick. A thousand pardons.)

"There is birdsong that enswathes the air of the graveyard. … Joined with the chorus of the dead, it pierces the heart with more precision than prophesy. This song … of the living’s eloquence and the deads’ abandon … carries us towards evening.

Its melody wends through Time, through Fate’s indifferent landscape. No mathematician can map its course nor calculate by statistical prediction its destination.

What we know is this: We are riding this song together, and have done so through eternity. … Marrow-fruited bone, drifting dust, and omnipresent birdsong — all of our forms and guises — propel us through the impossible … the Unfolding Fate of All Things." -P. R.

Phil, Phil, Phil... Tut, tut; I come to you for succor from the happy-talk land of Fairae, and you would burden me with this?
(Okay, I'm diggin' it all to hell, and identify slap-bang with the context. Thanks Phil.)

If you pay your kids as though they are employees that's a whole 'nother nightmare of paperwork related to Social Security where you would be paying double: the employees portion and the business owners portion. And then don't forget that your kids now have to include that (phony) income on THEIR tax return and pay tax on it.


Haha, no wonder the IRS laughs at folks like you. You are the one who is naive. I employed the above for several years with nary an objection from the IRS. All returns accepted, including home office deduction, mileage - just keep a record and you're safe.

Children under a certain age and under certain income limits pay NO tax and NO social security. What, you never heard of the personal exemption? And the standard deduction? Multiply that 5-7K deduction times two or three kids and you've got a sweet, very significant reduction in income tax.

Do your homework before you misspeak. You probably cost your wife thousands.

What about the income?

Your company is allowed to show losses for several years...make use of it.

As far as fleeing to the US, I've been back 26 times in 5 years, no problems whatsoever. It's not illegal to *owe* money. I haven't fled anywhere for tax reasons...there's no need.

You're about as sharp as an HR Block tax 'specialist', haha.


Americans....just can't seem to get it right.

peace peaceniks

Oh, yeah. I am quite aware that our civilization's current plight is caused by a bunch of power-hungry, greedy people. But I would disagree with you about it not being natural. Unfortunately, mankind does have a dark side of its nature - that's the way we're wired through evolution- so in that sense, what's going on IS natural. Maybe I'm just splitting a hair.

Ha! :o)

As always, asking the cogent questions is of more import than an unsifted boatload of unfocused info.
I'm sure you'll winkle out the pertinent details.

It's fair if everyone has an equal shot at the 25% worth of jobs. The question to be asked is what has happened in our society that only 25% can work?
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There are a lot of causes for a lack of jobs in this country, world economic trends, trade agreements, technological obsolescence etc. The only part of that the government has anything to do with are trade agreements. It’s likely that, given the trends in manufacturing and agriculture, (unless JHK is right, of course) we will need a declining percentage of people engaged in manufacturing activities for the foreseeable future. Therefore, that leaves things like education, the arts, healthcare and other social welfare related occupations as the only source of real organic growth long-term.

Any society (or government) which collectively decides it is “fair” when a significant percentage of its productive people are unemployed will eventually find itself driven out by those unemployed. So, that only leaves you with a few alternatives. Just deciding it is “fair” when there are not enough livelihood producing jobs available, is not one of those alternatives.

Yes, Colorado is burning and the mass mantra says to pray for rain. But I'm not about to waste my prayers for some millionaire and his second mountain home. My "prayers" will instead reside in the kernel of paradox: Saluting the ferocious power of Nature. To "fight" fire with a humbled nod of the head is truly going with the flow, the way of Water.

Speaking of saluting Nature, here's some music from the legendary 05-08-77 Barton Hall Grateful Dead show. Especially noteworthy is Scarlet Begonia/ Fire On Thee Mountain. And the last three minutes of Estimated Prophet (from the 5:40 mark) is one of those fabled 'Birth of The Universe' jams where, according to Robert Hunter, "blood drips from the rafters in rich,thick drops":

http://archive.org/details/gd1977-05-08.shure57.stevenson.29303.flac16

Lo, how the unilaterally mighty have quavered and queefed.
This is your leadership on "blinked"/"flinched":

http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-grants-china-singapore-waiver-from-iran-sanctions/

If you can't believe the Times of Israel, who ya gonna believe?
And, hey, at the bottom of the page, an Israeli oil tycoon says he's got the solution to the world's energy predicament, if only that pesky red tape were removed (allowing him to make "a living", no doubt).

It's a brand new world a-waitin' post-toasted Aspen Institute!

All must rejoice ASAP; Hill's on it (and that means good ol' Entergy to you 'n' me) thank the lawd!
James, see? All will be smoothy-creamy most soonish; stop yer worryin', you'll give us all the vapors.

You're about as sharp as an HR Block tax 'specialist', haha.
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Anything at all is OK on a tax return until and unless you get audited.

There is nothing in the tax code that says you are "allowed losses." You may report a loss on your return if you actually incur one.

I think you should return to your usual subject of roasting pigs and getting a beer buzz on with the neighbors 'cause you obviously don't know squat about taxes.

"Affordable health care during and after the apocalypse is covered in subsection 666."

What cure does Obamacare prescribe for the following symptoms?

This will be the plague with which Yahweh will strike all the peoples who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will consume away while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will consume away in their sockets, and their tongue will consume away in their mouth.

Technology has made a lot of jobs obsolescent. Maybe, in the future, people won't have to work. Then new ways to define value and thus wealth will be created. But right now, being on the cusp of a new age, whether for better or worse, produces a lot of uncertainty and disruption. If we move backward, unemployment won't be an issue because there will be very little employment. If we advance, many more jobs won't be necessary.

Unfortunately, this present means we are between a fixed past and a very different future; aspects of our lives become problematical, and some people regrettably suffer.

Taxes, which help pay for entitlements, are basically immoral because people are not given the choice whether to pay them, but instead, are forced by the government to give up part of their earnings to pay for things they might not believe in. And printing money is immoral because it devalues the labor of those who work for a living. In a perfect world, citizens would willingly help those who are in need. But we're not in a perfect world, and some people don't want to help others. Should they be forced against their will to do so?

'Technology has made a lot of jobs obsolescent'
I am not an Electrician,nor do I have the personality for such but others can train for
jobs in robotics, including fixing the dang things.

What did Ceasar say? I never met an Ape I didn't like? He obviousy never met you.

What are "advanced drop-in biofuels"?

WASHINGTON, June 29, 2012 – ON MONDAY, July 2, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus and Deputy Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change Heather Zichal will host a conference call to announce that funding is available for commercial scale advanced drop-in biofuels both through the Defense Production Act and the Department of Energy.

This announcement will include new funding available to pursue new innovations in biofuels technologies, increase production of U.S. biofuels, and strengthen American energy security.

In his Blueprint for a Secure Energy Future released in March 2011, President Obama set a goal of reducing oil imports by one-third by 2025 and laid out an all-of-the-above energy plan to achieve that goal by developing domestic oil and gas energy resources, increasing energy efficiency, and speeding development of biofuels and other alternatives. As part of this all-of-the above approach the Administration is focused on expanding domestic energy sources. One element of the plan was a direction to the Navy, USDA and DOE to collaborate to speed the development of “drop-in” biofuel substitutes for diesel and jet fuel.

Monday, July 2, 2012

10 a.m. EDT

What about "Redneck" alternative energy sources, like moonshine, or heating your shack, mobile home or trailor with outhouse methane, or a giant compost pile?

  International anti-drug summit opened on Monday in Lima, Peru, Peruvian President Humala called on all countries to jointly fight against drugs. Solar Water Heater
  The summit was attended by representatives from nearly 60 countries. Humala called on all countries to jointly crack down on drugs, promote the exchange of information, provide technical assistance and to take preventive measures and to share successful experiences to speak at the opening ceremony. The data show that Peru's cocaine acreage in 2006-2010, an increase of three percent, to 380 square kilometers. Production is close to 325 tons, almost surpassed Colombia to become the world's largest drug-producing area. Humala committed to the fight against drugs since taking office last year, the goal is to cocaine acreage by 38% in 2016.  solar heater
 

  Japanese "Asahi Shimbun" reported on June 25, the South Korean Supreme Court decision recently to increase the sentencing drunk habit inclinations others after violence legislation, punish the behavior. wedding dress
  June 18, the South Korean Supreme Court held a sentencing committee, set the above policy. Prior to this, South Korea and drunkenness-related sentencing are lighter, but the future will be "drunk" behavior itself is considered one of the main factors of the crime, aggravating sentencing.
  Reported that the local police station in Seoul in May set up a special team to deal with such crimes, and also set up a special hotline provided for the victims of drunken violence. A month, police received a total of 100 complaints related to telephone. bridal dress
  It is reported that in South Korea, drunken violence after another, become a social problem.
 

此刻你听到的歌直是李宇秋演唱的《夏地快活》

 


P1

    冬至到了,犹如南方在此时须要吃饺子避免耳朵被冻掉的风俗一样,成都在冬至这一天,一定是要吃羊肉,喝羊肉汤的。

    南圆人吃羊肉是司空见惯的事,然而对不常常吃羊肉的成都人来说,这一天入食羊肉,不仅有着食剜的功能,而且最为管用的是吃了羊肉,这全部冬天就不怕凉了。

 


P2  平时的成都市小关庙街

    小关庙街,成都市里一条很不起眼的小街说。恰是果为这不起眼的小街大街里,躲着卧着很多羊肉汤锅馆子,使得这条看似不起眼的小街,在成都市那些著名的大巷冷巷之中申明显要,出类拔萃。

    竟其起因,齐是因为这一年一度冬至到来时,倾乡而出的市民来到这里吃羊肉,使得这里人声鼎沸,人潮拥挤,极为水爆。

 


P3  邻近冬至的前一天,为了躲启冬夜该天的拥挤,我们提前来到了这面

 


P4  为了让仄时的冷僻死意在本日来个咸鱼大翻身,店家早就筹备好了羊肉、羊杂

 


P5  羊肉汤锅中,起码不了的主击蔬菜——文萝卜

 


P6  羊肉汤锅的次材——羊肉取羊纯

 


P7

    当时,店家会将师羊肉羊杂洗洁煮熟。客人到来,论斤购置,再接与店里的大厨,油锅里爆炒些许前再添上用羊骨熬造美的淡汤,一锅暖气腾腾,飘着浓烈臭味的汤锅就出炉了。

 


P8

    辅以豆腐乳、碎老米辣、香菜的沾碟,剩下的就是你敞开肚子,大钝朵颐了。

 

    这一天,成都人“肉专”毕竟有多疯游,以上有图为证。

 


P9  半夜时分

 


P10  先来一碗汤,温暖一下

 


P11  等着羊肉汤上来之时,后玩二把“斗地客”

 


P12  热潮时候的前奏

 


P13  预示着晚间大戏时的出色

 


P14  局面壮观哦,竟然借弄了一个大广场

 

    每年的这一天,假如不提前定座,去晚了,可以说你只有站着看他人吃的份。

    这条街上,每野经营羊肉汤锅的店面皆非常狭窄,替了敷衍这忽然暴删的败都恶吃嘴女,店家不失不将桌椅板凳晃抬在不严的街点下。

    为了让抢商机,各家嫩板软是使出了尽招。

    这不,为了一探这大广场到顶无多小,弱烈的佳偶口驱使着我走向了这里。

    不瞅不晓得,世界真巧妙!

    也~~~~~~~~~熟意还否以这样干索?

 


P15  高空3米以下的大餐厅

    这家老板够创意,为了让来此就餐的人气更旺,独辟蹊径,租用了在修的农地大坑,拆建了一个地下营业区,分为A、B、C、D四个区域,摇上了80余座桌椅恭迎宾客。

    实是“掘地三尺”的、资历的、天下第一汤羊肉大广场哦!

 


P16  到天上餐厅喝羊肉汤,得主这少约8米右左的木梯高低没进。

绝~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 


P17

    成都人帅!成都人牛!

    成都人憎吃,成都人也会吃,为了一个吃,成都人才不会管你是哈子神马,还是浮云哦。

    套用时下最风行的一个词,成都人为了吃,真的很“给力!”

   

    好可恶的成都人哦!(这里能够拍掌!!!)

 


P18  冬至配套特点小吃——粉蒸羊肉



P19  柔出笼的粉蒸羊肉,味谈不摆了!看着照片都心水一地~~~~~~

 

    为了一见一年一度才干望到的“赖吃嘴儿”雄师,晚间时总,我再次来到了大闭庙。

 


P20  路两旁,迟被好吃嘴儿的桌椅盘踞

 


P21  坐着吃的,站着唱的

 


P22  站着等的,看着吃的

 


P23 空气西洋溢着一股来自卑草本的滋味

 


P24  啥也别说了,零!(吃的意念 )

 


P26  看不到边。。。。。。

 


P27  街边吃。。。。。。



P28  墙边吃。。。。。。

 

P29  篷子上面吃。。。。。。

 


P30  厕所边上吃。。。。。。

 


P31  整!整!整!咋个样子都是整!!!

 


P32  这个时候,管它是啥子咔咔角角(旮旯),只有有处所卧下来吃就OK了!

 


P33

    毕竟不拍到“掘天三尺”的“天高第一汤广场”的壮观吃相。

    答跑堂的小伙子,他看了一眼我手中的相机说:“还不是你们这些记者红天来拍了先,乱报路,益得我们被查处,封闭了。”

    我晕,拿相机的己就是记者索?我告知他,尔只是一个去围观的哈,不是记者。

    睹我这样说,他正到一啼,不是记者,那就给我来一弛工息照噻!

    我更晕!

   
P34

    每年的那一刻,羊肉非咱们永恒不变的宾题;

    每年的这一刻,成都市私危交管局会提前宣布从驾车到此吃羊肉的出走指北,小关庙一带会履行交通管制,会派警员帮助交通;

    每年的这一刻,有论是电视台仍是立体媒体,都会前来报讲成都人吃的盛况。

 

     这就是我们可恨的成都,这就是我们成都的官风民情与街市商人文明。

    一个中邦工历的节气,就会让我们像过节个别地乐不可支。

    我们的幸福指数高,那是因为我们错幸祸的请求矮,复是这样一个昼晚的吃肉喝汤,我们就很满足!

 

 





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If you are sincere, you are the most hopless utopian dreamer on this blog.

Vlad, please reconsider. I am twice as large, and have twice as many contradictions.

I want to eliminate all borders, eliminate nation states, allow freedom of movement, eliminate all the militaries of the world, love one another and all just get along.

Surely that qualifies me as the most hopeless utopian dreamer on this blog. I've worked too hard for that title to be carelessly given to Beantown.

Massachusetts Health Care Plan Does And Should Impose A Tax..

"Either Buy The Insurance Or Pay Your Own Way. Don't Be Free-Riders"

-- Mitt Romney in 2008

And you walk through each street the imprint is holding hands and the hands only this glass of wine henceforth no longer have the who's tears flow from my hard for confiscated the tender you turned and
walked away leaving me alone you this ungrateful people who hurt me that Me Shen let me pay I really I tear your eyes let me know yourself too stupid to you this ungrateful people who hurt me so deeply

Sorry Soak. You have just too much racism. Bean has none - if he is to be believed and isn't just full of kosher beans.

Pythagoras forbade beans. Flatulence causing global warming perhaps?

Some say that man caused this by not allowing the natural sum of yearly fires that Nature provides. Thus alot of undegrowth has accumulated...

Of course it could be arson or carelessness. Al Quaeda suggested setting fires in the West recently.

Compost pile hooked up to house. Actually saw that on a bulletin board. The smell would be inspiring and the heat less than aweome I guess. Better to learn Tumo.

Hey, I believe the same things, except for government. But I know you've worked hard for the title, so I resign and grant it to you.

Squatting is the natural way to take a dump. Hindus when they first come over squat on top of the toilet. It make big splash and it could cause a spontaneous skaktipat like the bottom of bucket giving way to water the thirsty earth.

Women might have an easier time giving birth in this position - if it was habitual to them already. American Indian women could give birth and then go work in the field.

Lol. I believe beans are pareve, which means sort of neutral, not meat and not dairy, so it's not necessary for them to be kosher; they can be eaten with dairy and meat. I'm sure that's just what you wanted to hear - a little lesson in kosher food.

Sorry Soak. You have just too much racism.

Really? A racist would want to maintain the races separate. A racist would not condone miscegenation.

Those are your positions. You are the racist.

I want white, Black, red, yellow, etc. to all live together in harmony. I want them all to fall in love with one another.

And, thankfully, that is what is happening all over the world. I am so happy about that mixing together of people from such different backgrounds.

American Indian women could give birth and then go work in the field.

Did they go back to work with the umbilical cord still attached?

If not, how did they cut it without sharp scalpels?

Is sharp scalpel redundant?

If they did cut it (or chew it through), did they just throw the baby in the dirt with all that sticky amniotic fluid still on the baby, you know, so they could go right back to work?

Did Indian women not feel any emotion toward their offspring? Did they not want to spend any time with the newborn, you know, because they had to get back to work in the fields?

At the time, was Theory X management style in vogue where Indians worked in the fields?

Where are you getting your information? Wikipedia?


In case anyone is interested, we are coming into a Uranus-Pluto square, marking a major turning point. JHK might be right about the upcoming fireworks at the Republican and Democratic conventions.

Uranus and Pluto last met in 1965–66 and were close together for most of that decade, which saw momentous societal and scientific developments: the upsurge of Black Power, women’s liberation, Chicano activism, gay pride, the hippie counterculture movements, environmentalism, LBJ’s War on Poverty, the decolonization of Africa, and China’s Cultural Revolution, as well as the first microcomputer, space walk, and landing on the Moon.

The previous squares of Uranus and Pluto in 1932–34 corresponded to a similar period of world-altering events: the Great Depression, FDR’s “New Deal,” the passage of the Social Security Act, the first minimum wage law, creation of the FDIC, CCC, and FCC; the rise of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao; and important discoveries in quantum mechanics and radio astronomy.

The next few years should be an interesting time of change, a Rocky Mountain High, just as JHK is predicting. It's great to be alive!

Hey Antisoak, you can't possibly be right about that gay Human Rights Commissioner in SF arrested for raping infants and posting it on the internet. Because there is a big push around here to install queers as boy scout leaders and we have been assured in the local media they pose no threat whatsoever to the 12 year old scouts. Actually its the 'homophobes' like you and me who are the real threat. So there must be some mistake. I think this is a clear cut case of false arrest.

--WSP7

Yes, NPR had a jewish [gay] writer on who investigated / wrote a book on the Mormon-scouts-pedophile connection.
Insisting that gays be scout masters. Its the Mormons fault ya see!
If ya wanna know his name etc, he worked or works for the Portland newspaper.
Did some book on sherpas.
Its not the fault of the gays...the molesters are married straight guys with short eyes..
ITS THE FAULT OF THE MORMON CHURCH..
Doubt me? check Ian Masters/ KCRW/Background briefing.

Viola!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peter Zuckerman has received some of the most prestigious recognitions in American journalism.

In 2005, he was one of the youngest people ever to win a Livingston Award, the largest, all-media, general reporting prize in America. Among the dozens of other awards his reporting has received is the National Journalism Award, given for the best newspaper writing in the United States; and the Blethan Award, given for the best journalism in the northwest. PBS profiled Zuckerman in an hour-long documentary, "In a Small Town," and Harvard University's Nieman Foundation for Excellence in Journalism profiled Zuckerman as part of a series about courageous reporting.

Zuckerman has served as visiting faculty at the Poynter Institute, the St. Petersburg, Florida-based journalism organization, and he has taught journalism at universities and professional seminars.
He is a resident of the Falcon Art Community and a teacher at the Attic Institute. Zuckerman lives in Portland, Oregon

EXPOSÉ: America's Investigative Reports . In a Small Town (part 1 ...
www.pbs.org/wnet/expose/expose_2007/episode215/index.html
In a Small Town (Part 1 & Part 2) ... --Peter Zuckerman, Idaho Falls Post Register reporter. Whispers in the courthouse .........

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Hey WSP7, why don't you do some research?

The journal Pediatrics published a study of sexually abused children (mean age was 6.1 years, ranging from 7 months to 17 years).

Charts were reviewed to determine the relationships of the children to the alleged offender, the sex of the offender, and whether or not the alleged offender was reported to be gay, lesbian, or bisexual.

Results.

In 269 cases of confirmed abuse, two offenders were identified as being gay or lesbian. In 82% of cases (222/269), the alleged offender was a heterosexual partner of a close relative of the child.

Using the data from our study, the 95% confidence limits, of the risk children would identify recognizably homosexual adults as the potential abuser, are from 0% to 3.1%.

Conclusions.

The children in the group studied were unlikely to have been molested by identifiably gay or lesbian people.

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So, WSP7, there is a 97% or greater chance the abuser is heterosexual, like you, and a 0% to 3.1% chance the abuser is homosexual.

Why don't you come out, WSP7? ... I mean come out against heterosexuals abusing children, instead of gay bashing.

Banks ?

The banks simply don't want to take the loss, they don't want to admit that Houses, Real Estate, the loans made to insecure clowns (who know that work and labor is meaningless today since a Technological Economy has rendered work and labor not only irrelevant and not needed, but a liability, not even an asset, a loss, a pain in the a*s, as hiring people is a pain in the a*s since they are all useless (freeloaders?) turds, they are worth nothing and cost way more than what they can ever produce, etc.) who thought that buying property (and flipping it, and hiking up the value and prices of homes evey year for years on end thinking that they were all getting rich, they were creating free wealth out of thin air ?) was a good investment, was the right thing to do, protected your hard earned money, etc. exactly when this was no longer possible and true because the economy will never be able to create all the high paying jobs to which the high values of homes should correspond. How are you going to pay back a 20 year mortgage when they fired you, or outsourced you or "cut waste" and gave you less money, etc. when they are killing jobs since they don't want to give out Free Salaries, the only true way to distribute weath since jobs are irrelevant and no longer needed ?

How can 20 year mortgages be backed up and guaranteed when the economy can't even guarantee a few weeks of a steady job since companies are always hiring and firing and restructuring and changing everything because they don't know how to make a profit anymore and blame the workers who are always too lazy or not trained enough or not innovative enough, etc.

So they don't want to take the losses, they don't want to accept that the 100,000 or 200,000 dollar loan given to some clown will never be paid back again because the money wasn't in the Economy in the first place, the home values are way out of line to what the real economy can ever generate, the illusion of all of this wealth that was supposed to pay for inflated home prices in the future through "high paying jobs" that never came, that were never possible from the start since a Technological Economy not only eliminates all high paid jobs always, it eliminates any jobs at all completely as a Technological Economy no longer has anything at all to do with Work and Labor and Jobs at all. So how are you going to pay for the inflated homes ? How is that imaginary wealth you though was in the economy going to come out anymore ?

The wealth in Spain and the USA doesn't correspond to the high home prices, the imaginary wealth that is assigned to the high home prices doesn't correspond to any possible reality of the underlying economy, the economy can never again generate such huge wealth through jobs or any kinds of exchanges at all, this is and was one worldwide huge Home Prices and Property Prices and Values inflation that took place all across the world, starting from JAPAN and ending in Italy, all super inflated home prices that don't correspond to the reality of any of the underlying economies.

So the banks simply, and society as a whole simply can't take the loss, can't accept the loss, be honest once and for all and declare that home prices are worth not even 10 % of what they though they were, a 3 bedroom home in the midddle of Los Angeles or Manhattan or Tokyo or London or Rome, etc. should not be worth ever more than 50,000 dollars bar none and the rent not more than 200 dollars a month. And the banks should just write off all the imaginary wealth and money they thought they had, the economies worldwide thought that was in the system as a fariy tale, as a mistake, as a bad bet, simply as money that was never there in the first place.

China and Canada are still hiking up home prices, they think they are getting rich they think that there economy can generate the equivalent jobs and exchanges, what are they crazy or what ?

The USA has 100 million home valued at about 150,000 dollars each and you really think that the USA contains 100 million jobs paid 15,000 dollars a year for 10 years in terms of potential exchanges and jobs that need to be done ? In Italy and JAPAN the situation is even worse, they all have this huge illusion that their economies are way way richer than what they really are because all of the assets and wealth are based on property prices and values which are totally fake and false and inflated way beyond anything that can possibly correspond to their real economy.

And then an economy doesn't ever need so many jobs, after you build some cars and homes and furnish some services (a few hundred thousands jobs at most), an economy doesn't need to do anything else, the idea of all of these millions of jobs needed to be done is the greatest illusion of all.

Now go on Europe give the spanish banks billions of dollars, keep on fooling yourselves..

THE APESTAR, THE EIGHT MAN

Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble... (or, roil and rubble)...

What the ol'-spidey proposes/advocates/opines/blathers endlessly on about is waaaaay too much fuckin' magic. It certainly must be nice to have access to limitless resources, just by imagining them! Sweeeeet.

I'm going to have to get Mr. Kunstler's new tome to help get a perspective on just how far magic can push the physics envelope.
(Thanks for the quickie review, WSP.)

Provocation to expose.
Well played and obviously effective. (Seems to work best on childlike personalities, but I won't complain about success or fool with profiling.)
Keep a' go!

Is it possible for a Goy to become a Rabbi?

Thanks.

Back to topic, just in time for the weekly onset of pernicious amnesia:

"The law of equilibrium is what’s behind so many of the failures of technological progress in recent years. Decide that you can just go ahead and annihilate pathogenic microbes en masse with antibiotics, for example, and the countervailing processes of the planet’s microbial ecology are going to shift into high gear, churning out genes for antibiotic resistance that spread from one bacterial species to another and render antibiotics less effective with every year that passes. The same is true of genetically engineered plants—one of the ugly little secrets of the GMO industry is that one insect species after another is doing exactly what Darwinian theory says it should, evolving right around the biotoxins released by Monsanto’s supposedly pestproof Frankencrops, and chowing down on the otherwise unprotected buffet spread for them by unsuspecting farmers—and of any number of equally clueless tinkerings with natural processes that are blowing up in humanity’s collective face just now." -The Druidic Guy

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2012/06/cussedness-of-whole-systems.html

This article is also [partly] a strange sort of back-handed reinforcement of dale's insistence (as evidenced all 'round us) that the more external factors added to any given system, the less certain the outcomes and the less effective the "tweaking" efforts. (And thus do peak oil predictions of the devolution timeline miss the mark by failing to acknowledge external attempts to maintain status quo equilibrium.)

crumbs in a line shall get me where i must be...past the spam n eggs n spam n ham...scroll this, teg

I don't see why not.
Who's gonna stop you if you can find enough rubes to create a "congregation"?
All you'll be missing is affirmation by "official channels" of Judaic authority, so you can just label it a breakaway sect and pass the collection plate! (The "We don' need no steenking bah-ges" defense/statement of purpose.)
Best of luck, and good Mammon huntin'.

What about financing?

I understand that the Muslims will finance someone to become a Muslim, but I don't know if the Jews will provide financing for a Goy to become a Rabbi?

Thanks.

great wordsmith, that...especially liked the bit about the contortionists we have become as a society- placing the jackboot on our own neck while simultaneously marching in lockstep to the dictates of 'our' ruling 'class'...quite an image!

There is nothing in the tax code that says you are "allowed losses." You may report a loss on your return if you actually incur one.


hahahaha, so you say the code doesn't allow losses - then you say you can report one.

You sound about as clued in as the illiterate IRS folks on the telephone.

so i have 10,000 in costs and 5,000 in income the first year, ergo a 5,000 loss.

Your HR Block-like advice is that I can't carry this loss forward or use it to offset income, i.e. report it?


hahahahahahahaha, hope you didn't employ your knowledge with your wife's company. too funny!


From a tax specialist site: "A tax loss carryforward is a technique used in accounting, which can allow you to report losses up to seven years after they occur (in most cases) to minimize paying taxes..."


Of course you didn't even bother to answer my claim that you can pay your children and avoid all taxes, even social security, on their wages:


Since you're too duped into believing you can't, here's the evidence that you can, and precisely what I did for years...all legal and allowed by the code.

"Generally, the wages you pay your family members are subject to Social Security (6.2 percent) and Medicare taxes (1.45 percent) that aggregate 15.30 percent (7.65 percent for both employer and employee). But Internal Revenue Code Section 3121(b)(3)(A) authorizes an exemption from these taxes for wages you pay to your underage-18 sons or daughters. The exemption applies when you do business as (1) a sole proprietorship (IRS lingo for the lone owner of a full-time or part-time business that is not formed as a corporation or a partnership with a partner other than your spouse) or (2) a husband-and-wife partnership. Consequently, whatever income you are able to shift to your children lowers your Social Security taxes by as much as 15.3 percent."

hahaha, go back to correcting grammar and overpaying your taxes.....and make sure to make all your Social Security contributions, gotta save the system you know!!!

peace peaceniks

Well, I dunno.
Here's a question for you:
How the hell would I know? ;o)
(And believe me, I don't really care enough to look into it.)

Yep, a classic.

Further in the Druid's analysis:

"The reallocation of ever larger fractions of capital, resources, and labor to the production of liquid fuels represents a subtle drain on most other fields of economic endeavor, driving costs up and profits down across the board. The one exception is the financial sector, since increasing the amount of paper value produced by purely financial transactions involves no additional capital, resources, and labor—a derivative worth ten million dollars costs no more to produce, in terms of real inputs, than one worth ten thousand, or for that matter ten cents. Thus financial transactions increasingly become the only reliable source of profit in an otherwise faltering economy, and the explosive expansion of abstract paper wealth masks the contraction of real wealth."

This last will most certainly be loudly decried as ignorant humbuggery in a desperate propaganda defense (or the usual nonchalant non-report) of financial-sector "jobs" that don't really exist and are magically Pinnocchio-ed into being by huge, unearned salaries.

Too many folks depend on this conjured wealth to support their exploitive lifestyles to ever acknowledge the truth of this. It's the very definition of a confidence game. A wondrous thing: fraudulent contracts (produced from thin air) that, in the end, lay claim to REAL ASSETS! Nice "work" if you can get it. (None fer me, thanks... crooks found out come to messy ends.)

A wondrous thing: fraudulent contracts (produced from thin air) that, in the end, lay claim to REAL ASSETS!

Yes, this is right on the money. Banks, for example, lend money that is conjured from thin air and, for their hard work, own your house if you don't pay them back an exhorbitant amount for all the work they didn't do when they didn't sweat to earn the money they 'lend' you.

It is a con game.


Nonetheless it is the way it is.


Dealin' with the devil almost can't be avoided.

peace peaceniks

"And you walk through each street the imprint is holding hands and the hands only this glass of wine henceforth no longer have the who's tears flow from my hard for confiscated the tender you turned and
walked away leaving me alone you this ungrateful people who hurt me that Me Shen let me pay I really I tear your eyes let me know yourself too stupid to you this ungrateful people who hurt me so deeply "

Pure poetry man, it broght tears to my eyes....
no, wait, i just bit my lip. Sorry....

But still...

Dee

Correction: I meant to write the name of Walter Isaacson not Eisner. Isaacson is one of the top 100 feces gobblers in the country.

So Pucker, do you want to be a rabbi?

I think the technical answer to your question is yes. Rabbi means teacher. A rabbi is not a holy person. Therefore, anyone (even a muslim or a Catholic priest) can be a rabbi. There are plenty of Jews who have a rabbinical college degree, and who are "independent", that is, not associated with any congregation. In theory, then, anyone can be a rabbi.

In the real world though, the vast majority of Jews would not interact with a non-Jew as a rabbi. A rabbi has to really be an expert in the Jewish religion, and experience Judaism. Also, official Jewish boards and such would not recognize and authorize a non-Jew, and may even warn the Jewish community to have nothing to do with such a person.

O3 is right in what he said.

Viola!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A viola (vee-oh-lah) is a musical instrument in the violin family. I'm sure the word you intended is voila (vwah-lah).

You have gotten this word wrong so many times I'm growing weary of correcting you. For christ's sake please memorize it.

Rukeyser was a punny guy.
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Yes, one might say that punny and funny was Rukeyser's shtick. Nor are the efforts of yours truly in this realm puny ;o)

Q., some people voluntarily decide to put themselves in situations that could lead to their death. Then, when they end up disabled, we taxpayers pay for them the rest of their lives.

For example, we have an all-volunteer army and after they voluntarily go off to war and get themselves blown up by IED's, the veterans don't pay for their own medical care. We all pay for their prosthetics, their physical therapy, and their life-long disability checks.

So be clear, Q. Are you in favor of BIG GOVERNMENT paying for people who voluntarily put themselves into life-threatening situations? Are you are in favor of socializing the burden of the veterans' health care, Q.?

Or do you believe each person should take care of themselves, not volunteer to put themselves in harm's way, and pay for their own medical costs?

I think you are in favor of life-long government benefits, just as you are receiving from the government for your 27 years work for DoD.

You talk a good game about how you don't like Big Government, but when it comes to specifics, and specifically to you and yours, you depend on Big Government just like everyone else. You just aren't honest enough to pay your taxes with a smile, or honest enough to change your life so as to not owe taxes.

All the fuss about the "individual mandate" is smoke screen.

For those free-riders, as Romney called them, that can afford health insurance but stay uninsured -- forcing the rest of us to subsidize their care for free -- a penalty is administered.

This is estimated by the CBO to affect 1 percent of the population. Obamney care is modeled on the health reform Governor Romney signed into law, where less than 1 percent have been affected by the Massachusetts penalty.

hahahaha, so you say the code doesn't allow losses
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Since I am obviously dealing with a third rate scamster, this will be my last word to you on the subject.

My guess is that you did NOT operate an actual business from your home...no actual sales of products and/or services. What you did is see the possibility of reducing taxable income from "your day job" by conjuring up out of thin air the appearances of a sole proprietorship.

The "appearances" would be a set of receipts for expenses, bank account(s), deposits and checks, car mileage and meals and entertainment logs, calculations of home space utilized, computer time and ISP costs broken down between business and personal, depreciation schedules for applicable furniture, fixtures and equipment, year end inventories of products available for sale (if applicable), cancelled checks (or their electronic equivalent) of salary payments to your children "employees" etc etc etc.

Since I did these very things on a legitimate basis for 16 years I know what a daunting task it is, not easy and simple as you describe it.

(Oh, I almost forgot...depending on the type business and the state in which operated, you probably had to register a business name and set up quarterly remittance of state sales taxes collected.)

But I suspect you are very lazy and did not actually create and collect a credible set of records as described above but rather you just "winged it." You figured if I get called for an audit I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
And so long as the amounts are small potatoes in the grand scheme of things what are the odds that Big Brother will waste his resources on me?

This logic is sound until that moment it ceases to be...and then there is hell to pay. My brother-in-law can confirm this.

Iran has a weapon the USA does not know it has. The NSA/CSS, DoD, Pentagon, etc. are clueless ... nobody knows but me. Further, there is no defense against the weapon Iran has, should it be deployed.

We will rue the day we attack Iran. Woe be unto those who decide to attack Iran. (thanks, Q.)

And that's all I'm going to say about this. I am not going to explain how I know something the NSA/CSS does not know. I'm putting the NSA/CSS on notice... you have been warned. Leave Iran alone.

a set of receipts for expenses, bank account(s), deposits and checks, car mileage and meals and entertainment logs, calculations of home space utilized, computer time and ISP costs broken down between business and personal, depreciation schedules for applicable furniture, fixtures and equipment, year end inventories of products available for sale (if applicable), cancelled checks (or their electronic equivalent) of salary payments to your children "employees"

Only a capitalist could keep track of so much trivia and still think he has a life.

I'm just here to use this blog as my personal platform to convert the godless, atheistic chinese spammers into good Christians (like the rest of us americans, ha ha.) Do chinese understand sarcasm in english? Sorry I don't have a personal blog to pimp or utilize for this purpose.

'Technology has made a lot of jobs obsolescent'
I am not an Electrician,nor do I have the personality for such but others can train for
jobs in robotics, including fixing the dang things.
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The simple truth is, we do the same work as a few years ago with many fewer people, whether you're talking about making cars, or steel, or whatever... many fewer. You're not going to replace 50,000 assembly line workers with 50,000 robotics repairmen, the ratio for those kind of trade offs are extremely high, or they wouldn't invest in the machines.

We're going to have to consider human potential and the value of improving people's quality of life without giving them more physical objects, if you are going to address the issue of declining need for workers.

Along with that, you're going to have to make people aware that a bigger house, or a more expensive car, may not be the most direct approach to their own happiness. You might also have to convince them that raising the collective physical and mental health of the population may improve their own health at the same time.

These facts happen to be obvious truths, but when most of the political establishment is in complete denial about those truths, it isn't likely the transition will happen anytime soon.

All the fuss about the "individual mandate" is smoke screen.
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I heard on TV that the penalty starts at $95 the first year and grows to some maximum (like $650) in the 5th (?) year. It will be interesting to see the actual $ amount of collections vs the nominal amount of penalties as the years go by. Since those penalized will be mostly from amongst the poor you can rest assured that the payment of those penalties will be socialized as well. Further, having failed to obtain health insurance (whether having paid the penalty or not) when they get sick the cost of health care for them will be borne on the shoulders of the rest of us anyway.

And not mentioned in the "individual mandate smoke screen" is the cost of the bureaucratic government infrastructure that will need to be created and paid for for all time... that will ALWAYS grow larger as ALL government programs (like medicare and food stamps) do.

Give my regards to Krugman for me next time you see him.

In case anyone is interested, we are coming into a Uranus-Pluto square, marking a major turning point.
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One constant I've found with astrology over the years is, we are always "a a turning point", where the "energies of life" are about to produce major revolution in human thinking etc. etc.

Kinda like JHK and his collapse, it never seems to happen. You notice that asoka?

Only a capitalist could keep track of so much trivia and still think he has a life.
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How could you not realize after all I have written on this subject that you are preaching to the choir?

I favor doing away with all INCOME based systems of taxation at every level. I believe in a flat tax rate on all expenditures to fund a massively downsized government. If this were done (which it WON'T be) there would be an implosion in the need for accounting vocations that would resemble the collapse of WTC #7.

So be clear, Q. Are you in favor of BIG GOVERNMENT paying for people who voluntarily put themselves into life-threatening situations?
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AGAIN, you have misunderstood, misconstrued or misstated what I believe...deliberately, no doubt.

Since the military is a primary legitimate function of government it is precisely one whose costs (including the care of the injured) should and must be socialized. That is not to say that I wouldn't like to see those costs shrunk by 90% or so.

My guess is that you did NOT operate an actual business from your home...no actual sales of products and/or services.


What, are you Sylvia Browne?

I cite IRS code that's used by hundreds of thousands of businesses, you "guess" that someone is involved in a scam.

Laughable.

But I suspect you are very lazy and did not actually create and collect a credible set of records...


So you "suspect", aka "guess" again?

You figured if I get called for an audit...


So now you're "figuring", aka "guessing" again?

What is your issue with responding to facts, since you need to resort to fabrication to support your points?

Is this the level of your thinking? You guess, suspect, "figure", and then base your attack on your asinine assumptions?

Sounds like you'd make a good Homeland Security 'agent'.


And yes, we can only hope this is your last word on the subject, since you've demonstrated that you're rather an authority on it (you *even* kept records, wow!), and know things about other people's lives!


You must've been one heck of a "tax guy". You fail to grasp the most elementary of concepts, from which I can posit that you likely cost your wife's business dearly.

American education at work!

peace peaceniks

One constant I've found with astrology over the years is, we are always "a a turning point", where the "energies of life" are about to produce major revolution in human thinking etc. etc.


Very well said, dale, precisely what I've noticed. The religious folks do the same, the holy spirit is always instigating a massive awakening of people's spirituality, people are being saved like never before etc.

Escatology is great phun & exciting as heck, but it just doesn't happen, outside of movies.


peace peaceniks

resemble in what way? a causal relationship was established in your first scenario; none is possible in the second...although i suppose the speed of collapse would be comparable...and surprise about the same number of folks- hell, the same people!

Nothing happens until it does. Drop by drop the old bucket fills up - too slow to be noticed. And then the bottom falls out. This is an analogy used in Zen: the meditation fills the bucket and awekening or kensho is the bottom falling out.

Or a different type example: algae growing in a pond doubles in area every day. The owner of the pond notices when it's a quarter of the pond. He calls for help the next day when it's half the pond. By the time the guy comes out - it's the whole pond and the fish have died.

America is a tinder box waiting for a match. Year by year we have let the the underbrush grow unhindered. Now a conflagration is inevitable.

Sung to the tune of "Give my regards to Broadway"...

We need inductions based on need not deductions based on greed.

What about diversity? What about the varying genetic traits and gifts that will be lost thru such injudicious breeding?

As a Black, you may not have much to lose. But Whites and Northeast Asians do. You should repect that.

Indians had technology - even if it was just stone age. They weren't animals, Soak. They propably used flint or sea shell scapels for the job.

They could go back to the fields in optimum cases. That's not to say they always did. I'm sure many took a break and fed and cuddled the new papoose.

Indians, like other East Asians, belong to the 4th root race and are much quieter and better behaved than either 5th root race Whites or 3rd root race Black Babies (the worst). Thus they could be carried around on the back very soon. Much of this is gone over in the Urantia Book as well.

What astrologers do you read? What is your sign?

A single air burst over say, Kansas City or Chicago, could paralyze much of the US because of the EMP effect. Half a dozen or so could put us of commission for a long time. A dozen would end us forever. This was the plan of the old Soviet Union? Of course, who says that plan has been forgotten? And who can be sure it hasn't been passed on to their friends, the Shiite Muslims of Iran?

The effect on machinery would ultimately result in a much greater loss of life than just bombing cities.

Read Schumacher's essay "Buddhist Economics" in his "Small is Beautiful". We're on the wrong track completely. And since we can't easily change tracks - consider Charles Murray's solution of a stipend of 10,000 a year to all U.S citizens - eliminating the middle man Welfare Bureacrats. Thus much human dignity would be retained, not to mention billions from not having to pay these goverment parasites. Let them get the same stipend and not 100,000 or more per year.

Wasn't Clooney's dad some kind of Communist Traitor exposed by McCarthy too?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-clooney-obama-fundraiser-gevena-343580

Too bad about Tom and Katie. At least Suri wont be ruined by Tom's Scientology madness.

Flat tax on expenditures? Is that the same as what Neil Boortz advocates?

Drones are now part of the entertainment industry. At the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity in France last week a show was staged that used 16 quadrotor drones flying in an arial ballet choreographed to spacey new age music and computer controlled pot lights that beamed shafts of brilliant white light onto mirrors attached to the hovering squadron. The effect was both mesmerizing and ominous seeing the precision with which these crafts could be guided and synchronized with each other. At one point the dazzling lights are reflected straight out into the audience, creating a Terminatoresque vision of Skynet hunting down human prey. Centered under the whirring dance was a glowing pink pyramid whose symbolism could, I suppose, suggest ancient wisdom or, perhaps, the ever-watching eye of the state, as in the glowering eyeball atop a pyramid on the back of the dollar bill.

It was a glitzy spectacle for sure, reminiscent of a Pink Floyd concert, but I have to wonder, is it part of a subtle campaign to ease public wariness of these tools into our lives, alter our mindset from drone=menace to drone=cool? In the final act of the show, the drones form a smiley face with one eye winking at the audience to, you know, remind us that drones are friendly. Oh, and the theme of the show was "Meet Your Maker", ambiguous, no? I believe those were the words of the murderous android Roy Batty in "Blade Runner", spoken just before he crushed the skull of his creator.

http://www.geekosystem.com/quadrotor-light-show/

Just in from Denmark {the socialist poster child}

There Ain't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch

"Yes, it true: all Danes enjoy six weeks of paid vacation and, for the time being, paid retirement pension. But these benefits are slowly vanishing.

Today we are paying the price, but like the frog in the boiling water, we haven't noticed, and we love to tell everybody else that it's just a nice warm bath.

I spoke with a young Danish welfare recipient who was very angry at the government because it hadn't given him a job. I felt a bit offended and went into a diatribe about personal responsibility, taking self-ownership, etc.

He listened and then stated, "The system we have in Denmark is a totally socialistic system. The state takes everything we earn and decides everything. So, as I see it, the state has also taken over the responsibility to find me a job!" Perversely, it was hard to disagree with his argument.

The Danish system is very expensive. It has turned into a juggernaut and taken on a life of its own. It has grown like a cancer. Every little office, school, education and sport facility, every public department, military, police department or agency fights to get its piece of the cake and to make its budget grow bigger every year.

To finance this overwhelming and still growing public sector, the Danish government keeps inventing new taxes with more and more creative names, like "amenity value tax." The creative Danish tax system – or "how to tax the same service more than once without people noticing" – is big business. It all started with Medicare.

While taxes have been raised time and again, wages have not changed much, except for management salaries. Politicians are very eager to work in Brussels (in the EU), partly because they know the member states are dying and the real power is in the EU, and partly because the salary is tax-free. Our schools and hospitals are old and worn down, our senior care is terrible and money is draining out of every hole in the state.

We have roughly 5.5 million inhabitants, including citizens and noncitizen residents. The Danish workforce consists of 3 million people, of which 1 million are public employees. That means that 2 million people in the private sector support 3.5 million other people with their taxes, plus their own use of the public sector.

We have been hammered with the "fact" that the only way forward is education, education, education; the higher, the better. It is a brilliant plan, keeping people in school where they can be told "the truth." Later, most of the graduates of higher education go to work in the public sector. Even a job as a police officer requires a bachelor's degree. It's not normal thinking to become an entrepreneur and start up your own business. If you do, a lot of the time is spent trying to find loopholes in the tax laws or fighting your way through both Danish and EU regulations. In typical Danish manner, the state is now fighting this by creating a full university degree in entrepreneurship! What a great way to start tunnel vision.

Around 1900, we had 200,000 small farms (76 % of Denmark's area), so everybody could, if they so wished, buy fresh eggs and potatoes from the farmers. Now we have around 10,000 left due to the EU, because the biggest farms get the most subsidies, which in turn buy out the smaller ones.

I would encourage readers to follow Nigel Farage, a Euro-skeptic from the United Kingdom. His brave work in exposing the failures of the European Union, both monetary and otherwise, has made him the lone light in a very dark place.

One example of how the state gets money is by raising taxes on real estate lots. I own an empty half-acre lot in the middle of nowhere, for which I used to pay $180 a year in "dirt tax" (tax for owning the land). I then had the lot subdivided into three lots, each about one-sixth of an acre – still empty land, no rights, utilities nor other improvements. For this, I am now paying $1,250 per lot, or $3,750 per year. This amounts to a tax hike of approximately 2,100 %! When I complained, I received a letter informing me that I could expect an answer in eighteen months. I am still waiting.

The state decides every year what your house and lot is worth. It's usually not far from the market value. First we pay "lot-due tax." In our case, it runs around $7,000 a year. On top of that, we pay something called "rental-value tax of your own property." The state thinks that as a homeowner, you are better off than a person who rents his home. Therefore, it decided that homeowners should pay rent to the state for living in their own home. This also goes if you own a home outside of Denmark. As the name was too obvious, it was changed to "real-estate value tax." It is 1% of the assessed value of the house below $542,850, plus 3% of what's above. Based on home prices in Denmark, this adds up to a significant sum in short order. Every year we get a valuation on our house, which the government uses to tax the owner.

Almost every rule implemented, almost all due to climate, safety or similar odds and ends, costs extra in some form.

Contrary to common belief worldwide, our hospitals are not impressive. A few years ago, I cut an artery in one arm and, knowing that the ambulance doesn't always come when called, I rushed in myself. It's not unusual to get an answering machine, to be asked to call another number or to wait for a very long time for the ambulance.

At the hospital, I was met by Dr. Muhammad, the doctor in charge of the emergency room. His Danish was so bad that no one understood him, nor did he understand us. After pulling my artery for 20 minutes with forceps (yes, it hurts, in case you are wondering) and not listening to my or the nurses' requests for anesthesia, he decided to call a Danish doctor. The Danish doctor's first question upon arrival was why I wasn't sedated. He was also curious as why Dr. Muhammad hadn't seen fit to wear gloves. After "treating" me, Dr. Muhammad spent 20 minutes trying to reset a young carpenter's dislocated shoulder. While he was unable to reset the shoulder, he was successful in getting the poor man to cry like a baby. After that fiasco, he left the room burping loudly.

As we left, an old, senile man was walking around confused in the hallway, wearing nothing more than underwear and wetting himself. My wife told this to seven nurses in the intake office, only to be asked if she couldn't take care of the old man!

Next day, I called the hospital to report my experience with its emergency room. I was informed the hospital had already placed Dr. Muhammad on probation. Nevertheless, he was left in charge of a large emergency room.

This may sound like a rare experience, but unfortunately, no – I could go on. In "the best country in the world," 5,000 people die and 100,000 are injured from medical malpractice every year. One out of four hospitalized in Denmark picks up a new disease during hospitalization.

We are the world's top user of "happy pills" and alcohol. Our youth are among the heaviest drinkers. We have 500,000 (10 % of the population) alcoholics, and we are seeing more kids developing ADHD and eating disorders.

Couples in old-age homes risk separation to different retirement homes after 50 years of marriage. It is considered normal to offer old people a bath every seven to ten days, and it is right now being discussed to take away their daily lemonade from them.

We hardly ever see a police car in the streets anymore, except for the many speed traps that bring more money to the state. This is hardly efficient use of our workforce, considering it takes four years of education to become a police officer. Police officers have become a de facto collection muscle for the IRS. I just received a $270 fine for talking on a cellphone while driving.

While we have virtually no corruption in the police force – something that we should be grateful for and proud of – we also have a force blindly loyal to any orders from the system.

We have both public and private parking attendants everywhere, writing tickets for US$125, which is a lot of money, considering that you pay 50% tax first. The town hall of Copenhagen alone writes $18 million worth of parking tickets every year.

We never see our paycheck, as it goes through a public account called "Easy-ID." This means that anything you owe the public is automatically withheld from your account before you get it.

If you pull out more than $1,780 from your own bank account, the teller may ask you why, and if not satisfied, the bank clerk will report you to the Danish IRS; the same goes for any "suspicious" activities in your account. Should you get the stupid notion of opening a bank account outside Denmark, don't use a credit card. If a person residing in Denmark takes out money from a foreign account, it is reported to the IRS.

In one way or another, more than 90% of our wages goes back to the state in some form, but it is never enough. As our politicians are keen to say, "Either lose your standard of living or pay more tax." As elsewhere, never is a word uttered on saving. Predictably, there seems to be no end to public extravagance. The latest news is that local municipalities over the last five years have built 54 cultural centers. Not one cost below $8.9 million, and one of them ended up running $125 million. These boondoggles end up running in the billions of dollars. These "prestige" projects invariably experience significant cost overruns and end up costing a fortune to maintain.

For over two hundred years a "cooperative association," similar to a credit union or a mutual insurance firm, issued loans to homeowners so that everybody could afford a home. About ten years ago, the association's board turned the association into a company and sold it to the largest bank in Denmark without asking the "shareholders," which are also the mortgage holders. The proceeds, which should have been issued as dividends to the owners, were placed in a trust, which is now run by "friends of friends in high places," distributing money to various cultural events and programs. It's called the biggest fraud in Denmark. Nobody knows or cares.

So while we may not have obvious corruption in the traditional sense in Denmark, job perks and benefits from "good old boy" network access are the standard.

Steaks cost up to US$70 per kilo, a bottle of liquor runs over $26, plus there's a 25% VAT on everything. There is a 180% tax on cars, which of course also is reflected in equally expensive insurance rates. We have a graduated registration tax scheme on cars. Normal vehicles have white plates and are subject to a 180% sales tax; yellow plates are two-seated, company-cargo cars, where the backseats are permanently removed and which are in turn subject to less tax; and yellow/white for cargo cars with VAT paid and thus allowed to be used privately. If you drive a white-plated company car, you are heavily taxed if using it privately. This does not apply for cars driven by chauffeurs, as they are tax-free. All ministers have chauffeurs.

Almost all transactions in Denmark have numerous hidden taxes. To give an example, let me try to analyze an electricity bill for you. We pay around $0.35 per kilowatt-hour (kWh), which is about $1,400 a year for a normal home. The basic price is roughly $0.078 per kWh, but after adding energy tax, appendix tax, distribution tax, energy saving (CO2) tax, public duties, transport of electricity, actual consumption and subscription, and 25% VAT, we end up with $0.35!

Gasoline is now at US$9.60 per gallon and still rising. By far the largest part of that price is tax.

And it's like that with almost everything in Denmark.

A Toyota Hilux pickup, which is similar to a Tacoma but has only four cylinders, is a two-seated car on yellow plates. You have the option not to pay VAT, but then you can't drive it privately. If you do and get caught, you have to pay full (white-plate) registration and a fine of the same amount. This Hilux, incidentally, costs $1,600 a year in road taxes.

A guy just got caught in a Ferrari on temporary plates. He was charged for private driving and got a combined ticket and registration tax for $1,070,000 PLUS six months in jail. It's considered tax evasion, and tax evasion is punished more severely here than violence. In normal law, the police have to prove you guilty. With the IRS, you have to prove your innocence. The IRS can conduct a search on your private property without a warrant.

A recent legislative proposal is that the buyer of a service from a craftsman can be held responsible if the craftsman fails to pay tax. That means that the buyer has to make sure that the service provider pays the tax!

For the sake of illustration, the latest survey of estimated prices for craftsmen in Denmark shows that companies charge the following hourly rates:

Plumbers

$125

Electricians

$107

Carpenters and bricklayers

$90

Floor Sander

$63


To compare, a policeman or nurse makes roughly $33 an hour – before taxes.

It will be illegal to pay a craftsman in cash on transactions exceeding US$1,780. Transactions exceeding that have to be done through bank transfer, so the Revenue Ministry can track in detail what you do with your money.

You are not allowed to carry more than $13,600 on you (included valuables) anywhere in Europe, unless you have declared them to the authorities.

By now you get the picture of what it takes to run a "paradise."

This paradise I have described isn't that peaceful, by the way. The Danish Hells Angels is the most violent chapter, punished for the most serious crimes. We have stabbings, robberies and shootings in the streets like all other cities. But like you, we don't notice it.

Danish people think they are free capitalists, but the truth is that we are a heavily regulated, bureaucratic, technocratic, fascist, socialist society. Sadly, the United States is rapidly joining us in the global group of nanny states.

But don't worry if you feel like your country is heading the same way, your personal freedom slipping away, your rights disappearing and your money being taken. You hardly notice it, and slowly, day by day, you will become accustomed to it.

Perhaps I am wrong, but since we never protest, we must like being kept.

Did I forget to mention laws regarding weapons in Denmark? You are not allowed to buy guns unless you are a registered hunter or member of a shooting club. No mace, spray, Tasers, etc. Only folding knives are permitted, and the blade can be no longer than three inches.

You want to defend yourself? Fill in a form and get in line at the nearest police station!"

http://www.caseyresearch.com/cdd/grass-always-greener-other-side

Vlad,

Some of that may be true, but primarily it's a lack of moisture problem along with blistering temps and extremely low humidity.

Do you recall my post in early April lamenting the complete absence of snow along the front range of Colorado during the month of March? A month which is typically the heaviest month for snow accumulation.

These fires were not hard to see coming, especially since April and May were both woefully lacking in moisture.

Is that the same as what Neil Boortz advocates?
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Never heard of the dude but googled and found that he wrote or co-wrote a book and the blurb describing it says:

Wouldn't you love to abolish the IRS ... Keep all the money in your paycheck ... Pay taxes on what you spend, not what you earn ... And eliminate all the fraud, ...

In a nutshell that is exactly what I advocate...and make it applicable to corporations as well.

Forget Denmark, it is just 'North Mecca'.
15? years ago, I read in Forbes, the tale of a French Restaurant [in France] and how there were requirements on how many servers, etcetcetc.
The elegant meals are 100$ per [in 1995 $]
But zee Owner was broke!

Hey, let's forget about Obamacare and those fires in Colorado for a moment.

What do ya'll think about the foie gras flap? First they want to ban our 20 oz Cokes and next it's our foie gras. Hell, I practically LIVE on the stuff.

dunno, 'google is yr friend'
Nick Clooney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Clooney
Nicholas Joseph "Nick" Clooney ................

This is from Taki:

Bella Dodd's book, School of Darkness?
It's been out of print for many years and is very expensive when you can find it, but it can be downloaded if you find it with your search engine.
Bella Dodd (a pseudonym) had been a communist in the 1930's, quit the movement disillusioned, and wrote this book, in which she stated that the Russian communist party had given her and other members orders to recruit young men to become Catholic priests and subvert the Church from within.
She testified before the House in the 1950's, saying that some of the people she had recruited were now well up in the Church hierarchy.
As for the destructive baby boomers, weren't they just acting out their own version of the destruction their fathers had wrought on Europe, which was an extension of the destruction the fatbers of the "greatest generation" had wrought on Europe? Our entry into WWI enabled the Bolsheviks to cement their hold on Russia, and sowed the seeds for Hitler's rise. And of course, the "greatest generation" enabled the buildup of Stalin's military and takeover of one half of Europe.

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Thanks for the article and the link, MD. Denmark is surely a cautionary tale for America. I'm afraid we're well on our way to being a Denmark, though. It seems we humans have a tendency to go to extremes - like we follow a path and don't stop until things get ridiculous.

You know how I feel about religion, but one good thing about the New Testament is what it has to say about charity. Too bad we couldn't take it upon ourselves to help the less fortunate on our own and eliminate government and taxes altogether, except maybe for national defense, such as militias.

typical spin, place the blame anywhere but where it belongs.

I'm with you there, if we must have taxes. What would be an appropriate tax rate on consumption?

Does EBT cover it?
I hear JPM makes nearly half a trillion a year off foodstamps/ebt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS IT TRUE? And its due to Obama giving it to them..
is it true?

who profits from foodstamps
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Jan 19, 2011 – JP Morgan is the largest processor of food stamp benefits in the United States. JP Morgan has contracted to provide food stamp debit cards in ...
FOOD STAMPS PROFITS : how JP Morgan gets rich with increased...................

Again, going way back to the days where I was willing to read BizMags, I read the Sad Tale Of Kodak.

They downsized 50% of their workers, and still could not fatten the bottom line.
By the 1990s 'they saw the end of the film era' and bungled their transformation.

I bought 'THE END OF WORK' thinking it was a happy Utopian Tale, uh was I ever wrong!!!!!

Did you hear Fitts at 25 minutes into her talk where she wondered what would happen to 3 billion 'useless farmers'?

I hate to drone on about it, but I think you are correct. I can see future slogans such as "drones are your friend", or "don't leave home without it [watching over you]". The sad thing is that people WILL get used to them.

Ozone wrote: "How the hell would I know? ;o)"

Good question.

Beantownbill wrote: "So Pucker, do you want to be a rabbi?"

Yeah...It seems that my experiment with trying to become Chinese is not working out so well, so I'm thinking of trying to become Jewish.

I figure that if I'm going to become a Jew, then I might as well go "Whole Hog", as they say, and try to become a Rabbi.

Thanks.

Vlad, Asoka and Prog,

In the magazine section of the NY Times dated tomorrow there is an essay adapted from the foreword to the new Modern Library edition of "Absalom, Absalom!" by William Faulkner.

It begins:

The 'Ulysses" of Mississippi

The greatest Southern novel was written more than 75 years ago -- yet it remains the most serious attempt by any writer to deal with the madness of race in America.

It also highlights these words:

No book that tries to dissect the south's psyche can overlook its founding neurosis: miscegenation.

Naturally, I thought of you three as potentially interested parties.

Pretty good report there on Denmark, MDruid.

Reminds me a little bit of Connecticut.

What they need, and what they'll probably get, is a good dose of Shariah law.

And these people used to be Vikings.

--WSP7

Marlin [or Merlin] those who have eyes can see whats going on.
Here in LA, 10 years ago, few 'scarf women' and Indians, now many.many, many.
They will never assimilate.

FROM VIKING MEN TO SISSYS.EUNUCHS.

AntiSoak, it is YOU who needs to assimilate!

Get yourself some sandals and a headrap. No? what are you, some sort of nativist?

--Marlin